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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "evidence that pulls up Tucker Carlson's"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Supra government idea straight into the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "real world where you have intel agencies"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "being a liaison fixer service for the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "people who actually run the world and"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "get to tell the world leaders what"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "happens and what doesn't. Basically, who"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "gets to die."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "And I I did some more polling on that,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "by the way, after my talk with John on"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "and off camera. And can you pull up the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "clip of Kiryaku talking about David"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Rockefeller real quick?"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Because we got to talk about him, the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "grandson"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "of the original Rockefeller."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "But this was from episode 388 where John"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "tells a story about his interaction with"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "David Rockefeller in Bahrain."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> I told you about my encounter with David"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Rockefeller, did I not?"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "You did not tell me about that."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> I was I was working in Bahrain in the"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "American embassy. I was the economic"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "officer and I was a longtime subscriber"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "to this wonderful magazine called Art"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "News Magazine. And I read this article"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "about David Rockefeller being given this"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "major like art world award for the work"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "that he's done over the course of, you"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "know, 75 years or whatever it was for"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "art in New York. And then we get a cable"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "from the state department saying that"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "David Rockefeller is coming to Bahrain"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "because he's being given an award by the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Bahraini American Bankers Association"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "and the ambassador comes into my office,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "David Ransom, wonderful, wonderful"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "ambassador, lovely human being, one of"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "the best bosses I ever had. And he said,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "\"Hey, uh, we got a cable from from state"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "saying that David Rockefeller is coming"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "out to Bahrain. is going to collect this"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "award from the bankers association. I"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "said, \"The banker's association?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "said, \"Yeah, I want you to be his"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "control officer.\" I said, \"I'd love to"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "be his control officer.\" What that means"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "is you arrange the car, you arrange the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "the hotel, you make sure he gets from"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "point A to point B and just make sure"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "there are no problems. If he wants to go"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "shopping, you take him shopping, you do"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "anything he wants. I welcomed it. Well,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "as soon as the Bahinis heard that David"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Rockefeller was coming, his highness the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Amir announces, \"We're going to do a"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "state dinner, right?\" So, the entire"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "cabinet, the entire royal family, the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "entire diplomatic corps, all the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "ambassadors, all the credited diplomats,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "this is a major event, like the biggest"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "social event of the year. It's it's at"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "his main palace. There like 500 people"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "So I go and I was saving my congrat See,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "I thought I was very clever. I was just"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "a stupid kid. So I I saved my my"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "congratulations for his award for the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "receiving line. So I said to the Amir,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "\"It's such a pleasure to see you, your"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "highness.\" And I said to the prime"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "minister, \"We didn't like each other"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "very much.\" You're like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "\"Hello,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> hello."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Hello.\" He would always say, \"Hello,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Kiryaku.\""}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Yeah. And then he kind of hyster. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "like the spy version of a VEP episode."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> I don't know if anyone ever told you"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "that, but"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> And then it comes David Rockefeller and"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "I said, \"Mr. Rockefeller, I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "congratulate you on your, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "whatever it was called award.\" Oh, he"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "lights up. Thank you so much. I'm so"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "proud of that award, the Guggenheim and"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "the Madness. And then I, you know, go"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "and then the next night he collects his"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "award from the bankers association and"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "he leaves. So we had a 9:00 meeting in"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "the embassy every day. It was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the ambassador, the deputy chief of"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "mission and and the heads of all the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "departments. So I'm in there in the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "morning meeting and the ambassador says,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "\"So the Rockefeller visit went very"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "well.\" And I said, cuz I'm an idiot, I"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "said, \"Why would a guy who's almost a"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "hundred years old fly halfway around the"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "world to collect a little trophy from"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "some bankers that he's never met"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "before?\""}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "And the ambassador goes like this. He"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "goes, \"John, John,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "you're supposed to be the smartest.\""}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "I said, \"What? What am I missing?\" He's"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "like, \"He didn't come for the banker's"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "award."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "That was his cover stuff.\""}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "And I said, \"So what was he doing here?\""}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "He said, \"David Rockefeller is the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "secret back channel to Saddam Hussein.\""}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> He came here to make it look like he had"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "business in the Middle East. We put him"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "on a military transport this morning and"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "sent him to Baghdad to tell Saddam"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Hussein to cut it out or you're going to"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "get a bomb up your ass. And then he flew"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "back from Baghdad."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "And I was like, man, I I have a lot to"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "learn."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> Okay, pause it. Go ahead. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "perfect."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "evidence that pulls up Tucker Carlson's"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Supra government idea straight into the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "real world where you have intel agencies"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "being a liaison fixer service for the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "people who actually run the world and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "get to tell the world leaders what"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "happens and what doesn't. Basically, who"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "gets to die."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Now, can you pull up there's a link"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "there. David Rockefeller's Wikipedia."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> I actually want to start with the very"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "bottom."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> Cuz again,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> what's that? Awards."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> Uh, no. The"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "go to international conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "this is"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "something that has been in the public"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "domain for 23 24 years since David"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Rockefeller became the first Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "to ever write an autobiography."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "But again, when we talk about hiding in"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "plain sight, there's no hiding. He's"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "saying exactly what it is. This is this"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "is in response to accusations"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "regarding wanting basically like an nwo."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "He wrote in his 2003 book, \"For more"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "than a century, ideological extremists"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "at either end of the political spectrum"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "have seized upon well publicized"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "incidents such as my encounter with"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Castro to attack the Rockefeller family"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "for the inordinate influence they claim"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "we wield over American political and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "economic institutions.\" Yeah, because"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "they don't wield any of that, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Some even believe we are part of a"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "secret cabal working against the best"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "interests of the United States,"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "characterizing my family and me as"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "internationalists and of conspiring with"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "others around the world to build a more"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "integrated global political and economic"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "structure. One world, if you will."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "If that's the charge,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "I stand guilty and I am proud of it."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> Wow. I had never seen that before."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "That's exactly what it sounds like. I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "mean, he he was nice enough to actually"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "lay out the whole preamble ahead of time"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and say, \"Yeah, I'm guilty. That's me."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "It's what we do.\""}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> When you look at this guy's life and you"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "look at obviously he's a Rockefeller."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "He's a grandson of [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "gazillionaire."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "But you look at where he was and the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "things he did. someone who developed,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "you know, the powerhouse that became JP"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Morgan Chase as we know it today. It was"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Chase Manhattan"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "back when he was working there. He"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "worked in and around intelligence during"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "World War II"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "and then went into the banking industry"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "and became someone. This is a guy who"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "had extremely close ties to Allen Dulles"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "and was basically around in the area as"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "a [ __ ] Rockefeller coming of age at"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "the time that CIA is founded. And we are"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "now hearing direct firstperson sources"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "of this guy gallivanting halfway across"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the world saying, \"Give me a military"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "transport transport [ __ ] and give me a"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "[ __ ] cover story of some banking"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "award so that I can go tell Saddam"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Hussein and remind him who his daddy"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "is.\""}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> David Rockefeller was the founder of the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Trilateral Commission. That's why I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "telling this story."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "The [ __ ] founder. I'm not even going"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "to get into the other people who were a"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "part of the founding committee, if you"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "will, but he was the founder of it."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "It's real."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "And there's another link I have there,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "de"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "under"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Oh [ __ ] it it should be under where I"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "have the trilateral commission. It's the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "video of Epstein talking about it."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> Yeah, I got that right here. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "going to have you cut to like the 120"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "mark on this. Before the 120 mark,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Epstein is just [ __ ] rambling almost"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "incoherently talking about his"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "associations with Rockefeller and being"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "on the board of their foundation, stuff"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "like that. And then he we can play it"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "right here, De. Let's let it roll."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "So he thought that there was a a world"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "that existed in that would be a"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "combination of both politics and"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "business"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "and leadership. What do I mean? He"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "formed something called the trilateral"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "commission."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "The trilateral commission is some spooky"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "stuff. People said it was something"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "people that the Illuminati there some"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "mystery about it. people that ran the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "world. It was politicians. But David"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "said most countries the politicians get"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "elected for four years or eight years."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Separate from the royal families in"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "England or in the Middle East. Someone's"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "there for four years and then they're"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "not there anymore. The most important"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "people to have stability and consistency"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "would be businessmen. So he formed this"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "trilateral commission of businessmen"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "and politicians from three major"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "continents. So it was the North"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Americans, the Europeans and the Asians."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "So he said to me, \"Would you like to be"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "on the trilateral commission?\" Now I was"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "30 years old, 32 years old. I said,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "\"Great.\" and he said, \"Well, you have to"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "fill out this application so they have"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "your bio.\" And I looked at the list of"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "people, and it was Bill Clinton, former"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "president of the United States,"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "um Paul Vulkar, every great leader in"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "America, the Asians, the Japanese,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "and with a a very long"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "description of their history. And they"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "asked me to fill in what I would like to"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "have written. And I wrote Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Epstein,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "just a good kid, which I thought was"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "funny. Nobody else did."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": ">> Why the [ __ ] would they similar question"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "what you heard at the beginning there,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "why are they letting a [ __ ] kid from"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Coney Island on the Trilateral"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Commission, but this has been documented"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "before that I forget who it was, but"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "like it was written about in books in"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "the late '9s when no one knew who"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Jeffrey Epste was that he was on the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "trilateral commission. And I return to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "this because they're discussing arms"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "deals according to John's source at"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "these places. And arms deals are deals"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "that are governments use to move weapons"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "around and fund conflicts and wars"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "around the world, which basically puts"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "people in a position where there's going"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "to be a lot of death. And if you want to"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "get into population control and their"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "one world government type things, well,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "here you go. You have the guy David"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Rockefeller saying he wants a one world"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "government. And you have him creating"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "commissions that are facilitating these"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "deals and having them done through that"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "fixer class, that middle class between"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "the presidents and the people who run"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the world, which are the people like"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein and Adnik Kosigible and"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "everything that they touch and they're"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "around. And it gets back to the"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "incestuous relationship of all these"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "groups of people with each other on each"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "layer. the incestuous relationship of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "the presidents and the government"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "bureaucracy, the incestuous"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "relationships of the people in the fixer"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "class and the incestuous relationships"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "of the people in the top class and how"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "they maybe go across those little"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "[ __ ] classes with each other and have"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "some weird sex parties and stuff. I"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "don't know. It's weird. But like, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "man. When you have a moment like we had"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "where we're tying one of the most"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "notorious arms dealers to ever live,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Adnik Kosigible, who worked directly"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "with Jeffrey Epstein and worked with all"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "these guys like the David Rockefellers"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "of the world. When we see that and then"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "something as quote unquote simple as"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "Dodie Fed, the last guy dating Princess"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Diana, who had the most influence of"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "anyone in the world, who's killed with"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "her in her very suspicious car crash in"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Paris, happens to be the [ __ ] guy's"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "nephew. Like, it gets nuts when you"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "start thinking about how it all ties"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "together. Thank you guys for watching"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "the episode. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "In 1982,"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Maxwell acquired Information on Demand,"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "one of the earliest information brokers,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "which was later renamed Research on"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Demand. An information broker or data"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "broker, it's like specializes in"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "collecting your [ __ ] data, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "back in 1982, getting in the forefront"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "of that industry, good"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "foresight, thief."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> Good early bet, right? Yeah, they're"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "good at early bets."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> They're really good at early bets."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Really, really good at early bets. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Maxwell is the creator and co-founder of"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Mellin, one of the first professionally"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "curated online search/reference guides"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "to internet content. That's not weird at"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "all. I alluded to it earlier."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Perhaps there's some compromat."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Perhaps it's"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "not the wolf that snuck in through the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "back door, but the wolf you let in"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "through the front door in sheep's"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "clothing."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Yeah. Now, Gilan Maxwell has multiple"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "siblings."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "One of those siblings is Christine"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Maxwell,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "who right on her Wikipedia, we're just"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "right to the CIADA here because that"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "even has information on it, believe it"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "or not. God knows what else there is."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "But right there when it talks about who"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "she's born to, it lists her father,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Robert Maxwell, incorrectly lists him as"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "a Czechoslovakborn Israeli intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "agent."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Love to see it. I just want to say"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "before you go further, I was sitting in"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "the in the studio while Julian was just"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "getting this last part together of the"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Christine Maxwell thing, and all I kept"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "hearing audibly outside was, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "god.\" I then I heard, \"It's real. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "real. It's real. So, I just had to say"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "that was"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> it's maddening."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> Yeah, we're gonna get to the evidence"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "here. It's indisputable beyond"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Wikipedia. Trust me, I'm not stopping at"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Wikipedia. I just want to start there."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "It's like a little little warm-up. But"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "when it talks about her career, Maxwell"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "was an editor for her father's Peraman"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Press publishers in the early 1970s. I"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "have a feeling that's going to be in a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "future episode with us discussing that"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "more. But according to Tatler, Maxwell"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "spent most of the 1970s and 80s working"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "for her father, which including included"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "running the West Coast office in the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "United States of Peram press and"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "involvement in one of his software"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "acquisitions."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "In 1982,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Maxwell acquired Information on Demand,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "one of the earliest information brokers,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "which was later renamed Research on"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Demand. an information broker, a data"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "broker, it's like specializes in"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "collecting your [ __ ] data, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "back in 1982, getting in the forefront"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "of that industry, good"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> good foresight, thief."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> Good early bet, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Yeah, they're good at early bets."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> They're really good at early bets."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Really, really good at early bets. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Maxwell is the creator and co-founder of"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Mellin, one of the first professionally"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "curated online searcher guides to"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "internet content. That's not weird at"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "all. In 1992, she created and"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "co-authored one of the first hard copy"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "reference guides to the internet. And"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "they were both published by McMillan"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "publishers. I think that's also the one."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Am I [ __ ] up right now? That's the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "one associated with"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> Yeah. One of her father, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> The big five. Yes. Language."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> But yeah, that's the textbook one that"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "her father was printing. Again, we're"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "going to discuss that in the future."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "After Mellin was acquired by competing"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "search engine Excite in 1996,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "you know what Christine did, Joe?"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> Oh, this is the part, huh? This is the"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "part."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> She founded a company called Chiliad,"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "a software company involved in the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "advanced ondemand, massively scalable,"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "intelligent mining of structured and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "unstructured data through the use of"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "natural language search technologies."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "The firm's software was behind the data"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "search technology"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "used by the FBI's counterterrorism data"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "warehouse. As of August 2019, Maxwell"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "served as the board director of Chile."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Now, let's pull up that next article."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "De,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> you can't even make that up."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> August 2019."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> We're going beyond Wikipedia now, just"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "to make sure people out there"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "understand. We're not just trusting"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> whatever you want to say Wikipedia is"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "these days. So, can you just zoom a"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "little bit on this?"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> Zoom in for the folks at home."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> All right. So, this is from the Business"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Wire in March 2008. Chiliad, the company"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "that solved the 911 connecting the dots"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "problem."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> Hires Dan Ferranti as CEO industry"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "veteran assumes command to expand"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Chiliad's presence. For nearly 10 years,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Chiliad has been quietly working. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "that's what they do. quietly working"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "behind the scenes to develop some of the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "most powerful and innovative software in"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the US government's anti-terrorism"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "arsenal. With the addition of Dan"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Ferranti, a veteran CEO with a proven"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "27-year track record in the information"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "technology field, the Washington DCbased"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "company is preparing to extend the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "benefits of its groundbreaking"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "technology beyond its already impressive"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "client base. The phrase connecting the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "dots is central to understanding"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Chiliad's principal software product,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Chiliad discovery/alert."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Chiliad's founders, Christine Maxwell"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and others, were influenced by the space"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "shuttle Challenger disaster and the 911"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "terrorist attacks. Investigations into"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "both events concluded the information"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "stored in in incompatible databases and"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "documents maintained by different"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "departments and organizations could have"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "allowed managers and officials to"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "prevent those disasters. But there were"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "simply no existing technology things to"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "connect the dots across so many"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "incompatible systems and organizations."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Efforts to solve this problem hastened"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "development efforts within Chiliad and"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "drove the first deployments of Chiliad"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "software within the US intelligence"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "community to create a virtual knowledge"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "environment across distributed"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "information stove pipes, databases, and"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "applications."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Go down deep. I want to get to where"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "they got the holy grail of who it is."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Both the FBI and the Office of the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Director of National Intelligence, the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "lead US agencies in the war on"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "terrorism, have seen the unique value"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Chile offers and has deployed the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "company's software to tame the mountains"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "of data that must be sifted and analyzed"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "to accomplish their mission. Now again,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "let me practice what I preach here and"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "talk about evidence leading to concrete"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "foundations of a solution on the other"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "side and then I'm going to read what De"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "pulled up. That's probably going to make"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "me throw up. But"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "does that mean for sure that Christine"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Maxwell, the daughter of Robert Maxwell,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "one of the most prolific spies to ever"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "walk the earth and the sister of Gilain"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Maxwell, a prolific spy who work right"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "next to Jeffrey Epstein on the biggest"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "sex trafficking honeypot organization"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "we've ever [ __ ] seen? Does that mean"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "for sure that because her company just"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "happened to collect all the data from"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "FBI and this article says NSA but"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "there's also data I want you to check"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "this de to make sure we got it so that"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "people know it's source but I believe I"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "had also read that the the data"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "information was being shared with CIA as"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "well. I want to make sure I don't miss"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "that. you know, she might have just"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "happened to found this data harvesting"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "company and honestly as a patriotic now,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "yeah, Steve is saying thumbs up. They"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "work with CIA, too. As a patriotic"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "American citizen who immigrated to"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "America, she wants to"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "give the gift of data sharing. You know,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "that's what I would give for Christmas"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to the intelligence agencies after 9/11."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "that that's that is certainly possible."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "But it's very interesting when a woman"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "connected to the said people I just"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "mentioned is doing that"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "right around the time and selling the"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "product to the government right after"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the worst terrorist attack in the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "history of the nation"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "and right around the time where there's"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "emails going back and forth to her"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "sister talking about a 9/11 shadow"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "commission."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Well, I think I I want to I just looked"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "this up."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> Are you gonna upset me?"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> I I don't know. I might just This might"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "just be pure speck, folks. Might be"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "speck, but she stepped down August 2019"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "from Chilead."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Christine Maxwell. That's what that"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "said."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Well, it said as of 2019, she was still"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "serving as chairman of the board."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> Okay. Now, the only thing that I haven't"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "found some solid info on is like what"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "happened to Chilead post 2019."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "But in December 2019,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Palunteer secured a really large"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "position in the US government, $458"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "million production agreement"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "for data analytics."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "So, the timing timing is crazy, dude."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "It's almost like she set up the"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "foundation and said, \"Yo, Pete, take the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "rock.\" Yo,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "this ball yours, c"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> Again. Yeah, just speck. Just speck."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Just speck. But it's not in a court of"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "law right now. We wouldn't win that"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "case. The jury wouldn't even deliberate"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "for very long. We'd lose. They'd be"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "like, \"This kid has two different socks"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "on,\""}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> right? It would be like, \"What are you"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "doing?\""}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> But it's very interesting."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> It is."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> It's very interesting when she spun up"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Chiliad 2 in the mid 90s."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Again, that's spec, but there were"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "people talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "the new future for America"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "at the time. And that new future"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "included an imminent invasion of Iraq"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "long before 911."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "and a well after Desert Storm. We know"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "that. We've seen that. Wow. That's like"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "that's just"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "sometimes it's it's too much. I want to"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "pull up that."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> There you go. Allan Wade after his work"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "with Chiliad was involved with Palunteer"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> and was heavily sp Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> And sponsored in"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Jesus Christ inel."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Yeah. The original tweet I saw again. I"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "figured this was like, wow, not real,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "but it's real. It's like a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "[ __ ] red alarm bells and [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Breaking news. Gilen Maxwell's sisters,"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Gilen Maxwell's sisters are literally in"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "control of the FBI computer systems,"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "including NSA and Epstein files, which"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> I have to say that might be a stretch."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> A little stretch at this point. I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "think that's true. But the next part,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Christine Maxwell co-founded Chilead,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "providing data mining software to FBI's"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "counterterrorism warehouse post 911,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "enabling searches across agencies like"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "CIA and NSA. That is true. Isabelle"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Maxwell led Israeli firms Commutouch and"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Incog ICO with board roles of Perez"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Center for Peace and Israel Venture"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Network. That I haven't I don't think I"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "checked that one yet, but that does ring"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "a bell. But Isabelle Maxwell, this one I"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "looked at is employed by the World"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Economic Forum as a technology pioneer."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "And that gets right back full circle to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "like, you know, there being a trilateral"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "commission and the types the things that"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "these groups discuss. John even talked"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "about how the woman that he knew who got"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "into that then was able to go to like"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Davos with the same people discussing"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "things from a different angle. But it's"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "the it's the same thing and it's this"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "kind of global order and the stuff that"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "in the past I was like yeah some of that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "seems like there's some powerful people"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "who want that for sure for sure but like"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the scope of when people would say no no"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "no like most of them want it or the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "people that actually run the world want"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "it I I in the past I would have been"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "that feels like feels like you're"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "reaching Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": ">> I don't feel that way anymore. I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "there there is a real and and part of it"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "also is then like tying together things"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "we already knew would like the people"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "that literally would be at the forefront"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "of conspiracies like that when you talk"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "about the Rockefellers and stuff and and"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "what that is. Thank you guys for"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "watching the episode. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "already, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "button and smash that like button on the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "video. They're both a huge huge help."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "And if you would like to follow me on"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Instagram and X, those links are in my"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "from a report from the Telegraph"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "reviewing financial records within the"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "files. Jeffrey Epstein secretly stashed"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "computers, photographs, and other items"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "in storage units scattered across the US"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "and paid private detectives to move the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "material around as investigators closed"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "in on him. That's referring to the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "investigations back in the 2000s."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "And one of the things that came out in"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "that original Wall Street Journal story"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "when they reported on the bridge player,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "whatever it was 2 or 3 years ago, was"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "that there was an email that Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "wrote to Bill Gates after he had"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "I think it was like Epstein invested in"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "the second company this girl brought to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "her, brought to him and then Bill was"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "like stiffened Jeff on other things or"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "maybe trying to finally get out of his"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "life. I don't remember the details."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> And Jeff sent him like a very coded"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "email basically saying, \"Yeah, Bill, it"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "would be a real shame if scandals like"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "this came out about you. You owe me"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "money for that investment I made, by the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "way.\" Basically like shaking the guy"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "down, which, you know, [ __ ] Bill Gates"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> deserves it. But that was that's an old"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "email. That's not a new email. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "that's something we found out. So, we'll"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "do a Bill Gates check next week to see"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "what else he's coped to at that point."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "But again, and I have to say this, we"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "still, as far as I know, if someone has"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "something different than what I'm about"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "to say, please share it in the comments"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "so I can review the evidence. But we"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "still don't have there is no proof"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "emphasis on the word proof that Bill"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Gates committed sex crimes with Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Epstein. Does it look like there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "of smoke? And do I for one, if I were a"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "betting man, would I bet on that being"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the case? [ __ ] yeah. But I have to say"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that like I you can't like we we got to"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "we have to run with what we have and"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "then try to keep uncovering things. So"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "keep the pressure on and it'll get"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "uncovered."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Speaking of getting uncovered,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "the amazing thing is that these files"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "are basically creating like public"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "investigation."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Yeah. And you have everything from major"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "publications doing it and finding things"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "before anyone finds it on Twitter and"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "then people on Twitter finding things"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "before anyone else finds it. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "incredible to watch the world like put a"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "web together from all different thought"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "groups by the way which is pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Yeah. No, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> right. It's cool."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> So there was a report,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> but again is is it just going to be a"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "fun game for us to all play together and"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "then like nothing happens, you know?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Like, oh, remember remember when"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "everyone was [ __ ] united and we were"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "all remember we were meeting up once a"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "week and we were putting together some"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "strings? What happened? Oh, yeah. They"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "got away with it. They're all dead."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> It's all over."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> H What do you What do you want me to"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "pull a link from the New York Post about"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the storage locker?"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. This one. I got that."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. The first one right there."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So, this was from a report"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "from the Telegraph reviewing financial"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "records within the files. Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Epstein secretly stashed computers,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "photographs, and other items in storage"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "units scattered across the US and paid"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "private detectives to move the material"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "around as investigators closed in on"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "him. That's referring to the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "investigations back in the 2000s."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Financial records and emails reviewed by"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the Telegraph revealed that the dead"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Pedo rented at least six storage lockers"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "nationwide, some starting in 2003, and"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "paid for them until 2019, the year he"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "died by suicide allegedly in lockup. The"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "units were used to house items from his"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "homes, including computers and CDs from"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "his private Caribbean island, Little St."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "James, the outlet reported. Can you give"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "me the second link now, D?"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. in there because this"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "is where they uncovered some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "things that were in there because"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "another part of the telegraph report is"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "that there is no record through the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "search warrants of the FBI ever"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "searching these places. They now know"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "they exist from the files, but there's"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "no record of them having searched it."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "So, New York Post puts out a report"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "saying sex slave manuals, dozens of"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "address books, and a huge"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "porn stash were among the trove of"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "sickening items found in one of Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Epstein's secret storage lockers in"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Florida. It has been revealed an"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "inventory list obtained by the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Telegraph. So, he left an inventory"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "list. Again, this isn't from the FBI."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "He had an personal inventory list showed"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "the late Pedto had a three-page list of"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "massuses letters and lab results hidden"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "away in the Palm Beach storage unit. VHS"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "tapes and DVDs erotic"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "doing exactly what you think with kids."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "We're all in it, including sex toys and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "box loads of them. Yeah, I don't even"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "want to read more of that."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "You know what I wonder?"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "lab results."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> The hell"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> his own lab results as well. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> What the hell?"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> I really wonder."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "I wonder if right now"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> even at this moment"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "there's still some sort of like second"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "layer. This is total speculation right"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "now people. I'm just thinking"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> we're just hitting spec. There's some"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "sort of second layer"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "dead man switch sitting in a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "storage unit somewhere."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Oh, there has to be. I I Yeah, I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "know we're doing just spec here, folks."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Just pure spec. I totally buy into"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "something like that, though. There's got"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "to be There's got to be something."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Stuff like this. There's always"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "something. It's let let's look at it"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "from the base level before we found out"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the inventory list and what's in there."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Just on the surface, someone having a"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "storage unit, it's perfectly normal. A"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "lot of people I know have a storage"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "unit, it's fine. Doesn't have to be"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "elicit or anything. Obviously, he had"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "elicited [ __ ] in there."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Having six of them, if he's a guy that"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "has six houses,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "six, seven houses. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> that makes sense. But the fact that they"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "were never checked by the FBI, even"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "though there's records of them existing,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "tells me that there's more. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "weird. And it's weird. I don't like how"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "like it seems like the FBI didn't do"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "their job at all uh like ever with this"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "entire thing."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> It's almost like they were compromised."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Right."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Because it's just like it's like where"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "in like the order of operations here do"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "you like see a bunch of storage units on"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "record and you don't even search them."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "That's and that's just one thing. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "insane."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "You know, I bet you if a random civilian"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "who didn't have money and power was"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "apprehended by the authorities, they'd"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "conduct the searches on those folks."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Just saying. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> Just a thought."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> I don't know. Let's toss it."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> It's just spec."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Just spec. Thank you guys for watching"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the episode. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "That's the thing. When a group like that"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "has some power within a country where"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "they take a part of the vacuum, if you"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "will, they then take actions that is"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "collectively punished on everyone else."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "And I think where I run into a problem"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "with Israel and other people have run"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "into a problem with them is that the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "response at some point crosses"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "disproportionality and then they"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "continue drastically after that. And"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "also, you know, there's the matter of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "also provoking attacks in other ways."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "What you're pointing out with Lebanon"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "though is a good example of where"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Hezbollah was just like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "[ __ ] it. Send it.\" Happy to be here. But"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the thing that kind of bothers me about"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "a lot of society with our complacency is"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "that, you know, we've never been invaded"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "with the exception of the War 1812 and a"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "couple terrorist attacks. And it really"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "[ __ ] shows."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Like there's this idea that it's like a"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "no one can come across the Atlantic or"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "do something like that. But what you're"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "seeing up close is people who because of"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "the geography of where they live every"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "day walk outside. They want to order a"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "pizza, do whatever they do, shells"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "coming over, drones coming over, the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "precision strikes happening, and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> we're lucky to live here."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> What's the Israeli rationale for those"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "uh shells and the continued?"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "I mean the the basic rationale is"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Hezbollah is trying to rearm and is"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "whenever Israel sees anything gets wind"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "of anyone who's trying to bring"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "artillery rockets guns anywhere in the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "vicinity of Israel they strike them"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> that's not what was going on the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "shelling is different sh like that's"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "that's a precision drone strike"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> right if if like what we heard eight"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "different explosions and the people said"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "this happens all the time they don't"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "kill anyone I I asked I was like how"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "many people in this town have been"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "killed from from this like you say you"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "hear it all the time how many people"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "have been killed. They said zero."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> So it's it's not about that. And"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> what military kind of strategy says, you"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "know, a lot of like artillery is about"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "denial. It's about it's about making it"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "so people can't use certain areas."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Lebanese people think a lot of them that"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "they're trying to depopulate these areas"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "along the border by making it so"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "impossible for them to live there that"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "they move. When I was in Israel and we"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "heard the explosions over the border,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the guy I was with said uh who who was,"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "you know, I mean, he had been in"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "obviously like everyone in the military"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "been the Israel. Everyone in Israel has"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "been in the military. Uh, he said they"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "probably saw a terrorist."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> You know, who knows? Like,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> who's a terrorist though? That's"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> the question, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> And but and Balbeck, the guy, the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Hezbollah guy we were with, he's like,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "\"They say we're all terrorists.\" He"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "goes, \"These are all terrorists.\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "these are all terrorists."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> But the thing, I mean, Hezbollah"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Hezb I mean, Hezbollah, I mean, it is a"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "political organization. It's a political"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "party,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> but there I mean, to me, the the whole"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "thing that they did after October 7th"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "was just stupid. It was it was moronic."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "I mean, I don't care even if even if you"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "support their thing and you support the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "resistance and you support this and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> why would you attack Israel and then"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "they got destroyed."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> I"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> and and they did it and their method of"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "attacking was rocket attacks on"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "civilians and it's like they forced"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Israel to do this. Now, maybe Israel"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "would have done either way, but the fact"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> they they did it and it's like and then"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "who suffers? Well, all the Lebanese"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "people who are who live in these areas"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "and who are stuck in the middle. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "why there is a huge appetite, huge. No"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "one in Lebanon likes Israel. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "you're not going to find him. Some of"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "the Jews people maybe yet a lot of them"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "are like, well, you know, the enemy of"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "my enemy is my friend in the in this in"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the in terms of they hate Hezblah. They"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "view Hezbollah as breaking the country"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "and if Israel is going to kill him, you"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "know, they like their sovereignty, but"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "they don't, you know."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> All right. So, I I have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "questions here, but it's a really"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "important point you just made right"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "there because that's the thing. When a"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "group like that has some power within a"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "country where they take a part of the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "vacuum, if you will, they then take"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "actions that is collectively punished on"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "everyone else. And I think where I run"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "into a problem with Israel and other"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "people have run into a problem with them"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "is that the response at some point"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "crosses disproportionality and then they"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "continue drastically after that. And"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "also, you know, there's the matter of"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "also provoking attacks in other ways."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "What you're pointing out with Lebanon"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "though is a good example of where"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Hezbollah was just like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "[ __ ] it. Send it.\" And you're not you're"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "not going to beat the Israeli [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "military"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> if you're Hezbollah. It's just what it"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "is. But you also point out the precision"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "of strikes and we saw very similar"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "precision. I will give Israel credit for"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "this. When they attacked Iran before"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "they [ __ ] dragged us into it back in"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "June,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> their strikes were very precise at the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "locations of who they wanted to get. And"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "that's where people run into a problem"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "because as you pointed out, you then"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "look at Gaza and you're like, you're"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "just taking out whole city blocks cuz"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "it's Tuesday at 11:00 a.m. and I guess"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "we we got to meet our quota. Well, you"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "know, we never subscribe to the Douglas"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Murray, you'd never be doctrine. But I"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "do think that going in to uh to this"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "trip, I remember Frost pitching, you"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "know, or just talking about the premise"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "when he was like, I want to do this trip"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "and I'm going to do it is, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "thought it would be fascinating to"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "actually, if possible, and he ended up"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "pulling it off, which was amazing, going"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "to both um Lebanon and Israel and seeing"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "the parts of Palestine that you can see"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "and to really immerse yourself um and"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "talk to locals and get a real feel for"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "what on the ground is like. And I think"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "for the specific type of coverage you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "did, you kind of do need to be on the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "ground less of the macro arguments and"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "more and so it was just fascinating to"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "hear, you know, the r and then it comes"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "to to I think the people's um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "to to everyone's own prerogative to"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "judge whether something was"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "disproportional or whether you don't"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "even buy the basic premise or whatever"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "it is. I think I think there's still a"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "lot that the people can decide based on"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "the videos you show and the reporting"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "you have."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Um, but I think it's also important to"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "see what you saw because I got to say"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "getting the playbyplay updates, it was"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "kind of like, wow, you know, I'm on this"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "team and then I'm like, oh, I really get"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "how they feel, you know, and it and all"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "the and then and then, you know, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "so so like I know we're not done with"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "this this whole trip yet, but it was"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "kind of fascinating to get each side of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> yeah. Yeah, you know the the the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> the main thing I took away"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> it's very easy if you actually sit down"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "and listen to people and you don't have"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "any like objective on it. It's like it's"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "very easy to feel empathy for all people"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "involved. Yes."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> And it's like there's no way there's no"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "way that you can go to the West Bank if"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "you're not someone who has like a stake"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "in like either you like you know Israel"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "or Palestine. If you're just like an"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "objective observer and you go and you"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "talk to people and you drive through"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "there's no way you can't have sympathy"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "for the Palestinians. But then if you go"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "to Israel and you just talk to I'm not"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "talking about like the you know theat"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "whatever you go talk to everyday"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Israelis"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> do they all know people who've been"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "killed. It's not like here it's like"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "it's it's like it's a very different"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "thing. So then again you talk to them"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "and then all of a sudden you have to"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "have empathy for them in a way."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> And it's that and it's the same thing in"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "in Lebanon. Even the Hezbollah guy we"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "talked to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> uh I mean we probably talked to a number"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "of them. That's the only guy I know"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "isn't as blood. But he uh"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "his I mean the stuff goes back it's like"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "a blood feud"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> like like like for him"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Israel's Yeah. I mean like the original"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "sin if you want to call it that for"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Israel and Lebanon was invading during"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the Lebanese civil war trying to trying"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "to install friendly Christians to take"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "over Beirut and whatever."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> That then created a bunch of people you"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "know an Israeli occupation in Lebanon"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "which then created Hezbollah and then"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "you know and it goes and goes and goes."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "So now you're in this constant thing"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "though where now you have Israelis"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "who've been killed by Hezbollah. You"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "have Hezbollah. It's it's like a gang"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "war. You hear this in the inner cities"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "here, right? Where people are where"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "people are like well yeah I don't know"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "where the feud started but like you know"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "his cousin the generational generational"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "beef"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> and like that's what that's what it is."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "I I mean that that's what it is here. I"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "do think Leb I think Lebanon is very"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "different than than Palestine. I like I"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "like I think the issue with the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "and Lebanese. I think if Hezbollah"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "weren't there, it would be a very"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "different situation than with with the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Palestinians. Without Hamas there, I"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "think you're still going to have the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "issue with the Palestinian."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> I've got a question. I'm sure Julian,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "you may have some thoughts on this, too,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "but I think this is one of the most um I"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "don't know. I I don't think this"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "question ever got enough uh attention is"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "people do treat Israel like a monolith."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "And if you think about like if you were"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "to cover the United States treatment of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the uh Native Americans, if you went to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "NA we we did go to Navajo Nation, you go"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "to a lot of settle reservations, that's"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "not the best look for, but if you're if"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "you like then vilify the entire country"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "of the United States, you have people in"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "like, you know, New Hampshire like what"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the [ __ ] did I do? I'm like guilty for"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that. To read a land acknowledgement,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> uh and you know, and and so I think"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "there's like similarly some things our"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "government does obviously most people"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "don't support. um to what extent but"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "it's also there's also a big regional"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "component. I mean consider Portland,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Oregon versus rural Texas. I mean these"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "are vastly so with something like the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "West Bank settlements to what extent do"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "most Israelis and I'm sure there's also"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "a feeling of they feel a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "criticism so they don't want to probably"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "show too much vulnerability or or"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "self-criticize too much because they're"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "like where do you get it? But like to"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "what extent do say Israelis in Tel Aviv"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "go yeah that's kind of [ __ ] but it's"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "only one part of our country we don't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> we don't have any guilt"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> I'd say that is the that is the typical"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "thing of it's like I someone I asked I"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "said to someone I want to go see the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "settle I want to go visit settlements I"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "said well why would you want to do that"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it's like because I'm shooting a bunch"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "of documentaries about Israel and"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "Palestine like how you can't do it"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "without without without that"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> and that's kind of like the typical"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "thing"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> the I mean yeah is Israel is such a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "complicated place in for so for so many"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "reasons"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "But I mean it dep it depends on it"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "depends on where you go. The thing is"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "I'm pretty I don't know the numbers"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "exactly but what I was told there was"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "that before October 7th it was kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "50/50 on the settlements in terms of"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> 5050."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> Yeah. After October 7th it's not it's"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "way more in favor of the settlements."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> Because they look at they pulled the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "settlements out of Gaza back in 2005"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "then October 7th happened. Right. Hamas"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "and so"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> there are so many things we got to talk"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "about here."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> Oh yeah. But but but I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> we're never getting to AI"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> in terms in terms of their in terms of"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "their log in terms of their logic,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> They're like so if we pull it out of the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "West Bank,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> we'll have October 7th from the West"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Bank, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> the PLO."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> Like that's just like what simplified"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "form of thought, you know, about it like"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "but like people, you know, obviously"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "people have way more nuanced views, but"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> that view is is prevalent among a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "people we talk to. All right, I'm going"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "to bring it back to the Hezbollah thing"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "in a little bit, too, cuz I have a lot"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "of questions about on the ground and"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "when you were talking with these guys"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and what it was like and all that, but"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "this is this is obviously the I guess"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "like soup dour the moment what you're"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "talking about. But thank you guys for"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "watching the episode. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "I I don't want to like weigh in on their"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "politics, right? And like whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> I don't like it's not my whatever,"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> but I think it's a disaster for them. I"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "mean, just just the fact even say"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "because someone's like, \"Why'd you bring"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "him up?\" I when I brought up Bengavier"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "and smoke church and I'm like, \"Cuz they"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "say this stuff.\""}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> You have to."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> And they're like they're like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "but it doesn't matter.\" I'm like, \"It"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "matters to us. Like it matters to the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "people around the\" and they're like,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "\"Well, we don't like essentially their"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "thing is like, you know, we have to"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "stand on our own. We're Israel. We're"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "never going to have friends. We got to"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "stand on our own. We appreciate America."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "We need to be independent.\" Uh, but the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "fact is it's definitely I don't see how"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "it's anything positive. Well, well,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "that's that's another reason why getting"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "on the ground's important because"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> with Israel. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> lots of balls."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Yeah. A lot a lot of import Exactly. A"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "lot of important things here. Number"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "one, you make a great point that like"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "people are not their governments. And"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "so, when I like right now, especially"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "with the Epstein stuff, which looks how"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "it looks and is what it is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "when I criticize a government and I"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "criticize intelligence services, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "criticizing the people. Same way that"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "when I criticize China, Russia, Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Iran, all these different places, I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "not being like, yo, [ __ ] every person"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "that lives there as well. I think that's"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "really, really important. Secondly, you"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "have to remember with the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "government, it's not a two-party system."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "And I have to admit, I hate the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "two-party system, but when I look at"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "other places, I have to be like, god"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "damn it. Like, I I'm one of these guys"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "yelling about the two-party system, but"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "I don't have a good solution because"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "this is actually worse. You have a"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "government there that has been put in"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "place by 25% of the people. Let's call"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "it what it is. It's a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "orthodox community and the hard"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "hardliners, right? So now everyone has"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "to be responsible for for what"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "leadership does when in fact [ __ ] two"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "weeks before October 7th, they were on"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "the brink of civil war trying to"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "overthrow this government. Right."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> Totally. Well, I mean, one one thing"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "that kept coming up in the trip, we went"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "we saw the settlement where uh with we"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "were with the Palestinian on the one"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "side looking at the settlement where uh"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Ben, you know, the minister where he"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "lives."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> you know, he's got a picture of Baroo"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Goldstein over his dining room table."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> I didn't know that. We went to the"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "mosque where Baroo Goldstein went in and"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "killed all the people."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> The uh"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean I mean"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "you talk to Israeli people and I mean it"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "dep I don't want to it is not it look"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Israel proper like America is a very"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "free country Israel proper I'm not"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "talking about the West Bank I'm not"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "talking about Gaza and the range of"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "debate you have is it's like America"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "like you can find every single opinion"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "and you really to generalize like"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Americans think this obviously that"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "doesn't work right so they say like it's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "really what I kept hearing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "people say though like they're like why"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "you Americans like you're always"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "obsessed with uh you know what Beng says"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "or Smootrich like the really farright"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "ministers what they say they don't"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "represent anyone and I'm like that may"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "be true but like they're saying it"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "they're in positions of power like this"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "is an issue like this is a major issue"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "for the country and the fact is"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Netanyahu the government is predicated"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "on having their support right and you do"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "have a friend I mean you have a real uh"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "hard hard right side to you know the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "population there and and they're they've"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "got serious influence right now I I"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "think it's I personally I think it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "disaster for for I I don't want to like"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "weigh in on their politics, right? And"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "like whatever."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> I don't like it's not my whatever,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> but I think it's a disaster for them. I"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "mean, just just the fact even say cuz"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "someone's like, \"Why'd you bring him"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "up?\" I when I brought up Bengavier and"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "smoke church and I'm like cuz they say"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "this stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> You have to."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> And they're like they're like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "but it doesn't matter.\" I'm like, \"It"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "matters to us. Like it matters to the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "people around the\" And they're like,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "\"Well, we don't like essentially their"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "thing is like, you know, we have to"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "stand on our own. We're Israel. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "never going to have friends. We got to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "stand on our own. We appreciate America."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "We need to be independent.\" Uh, but the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "fact is it's definitely I don't see how"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "it's anything positive."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> Well, that's that's another reason why"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "getting on the ground's important"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "because like if if you were let's if you"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "were in a separate media ecosystem and"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "the only quotes you saw from American"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "leaders were from Ilan Omar or from"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Randy Fine, you know, like I would I"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "would hate America, frankly. I think"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "those two pe you know like they they are"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> they'd be my first votes off the island"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "from either side."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> They would be, you know what I mean? But"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "like imagine a media ecosystem that"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "really feeds you those and you see"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "they're they're they're one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "representatives and they get applause at"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "this place and I'd be like what are they"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "cooking up in America? Seriously, like"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "if you were in so it's always it's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "always important to see like okay to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "what extent do they have political power"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "cuz like Ilan Omar kind of is on a"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "fringe. Randy Fine is more or less on a"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "fringe. I think some would argue he has"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "more institutional power behind his view"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "of like being ardently pro-Israel and"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "everything, but he is he's not"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "representative. I would say most. So"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "like hearing you talk about that's"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "interesting. But as you point out like"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "the coalition building of the government"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "and like there is the hard red side and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "there was all this political turmoil"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "before October 7th about you know uh you"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "know involving their Supreme Court. Like"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "it is interesting that"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> one one thing that's I mean one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "tra most tragic ironies of the of this"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "whole situation. We went to Kabit Kabutz"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "near Oz which is like one of the hard it"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "was the hardest hit one in October 7th."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> So by the way Max I'm sorry I should ask"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "this earlier. Can you just explain for"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "people out there who aren't familiar"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "with the settlements when you're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "about this? Can you just explain what"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that is and then"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean there there's two kinds."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "There's there's I mean under"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "international law it's all illegal."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Under Israeli law you have illegal and"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "legal ones. The legal ones are just"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "towns. They're just towns that have been"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "built in the West Bank and that's it."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "into land that's supposedly not theirs."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> it's the it's it's complicated because"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "the West Bank is divided up into three"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "types of land. A areas A, B, and C. Area"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "A is controlled by the I may have some"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "of these backwards, but area A is"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "controlled just by the Palestinians. No"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Israelis present. Area B, it's a mix."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Maybe you'll have Palestinian"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "governance, but like roads controlled by"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Israel. Area C, it's controlled by"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Israel. Area C is most of the land, but"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "little of the population. Area A is a"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "little of the land, but most of the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "population. You're talking cities,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "towns, whatever."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> Area C is where most of the settlements"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "are. And it's complicated about whatever"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the the Palestinians I look I I don't"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "know enough about how they obtain the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "land. I know it's"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "I I don't I just don't know the nuance"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "of it because to the to the the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "the to the Israeli side is the land is"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "being purchased, the land is not being"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "stolen, whatever. To the Palestinians,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "it is being stolen and I don't know"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "enough about the exact nuance for that."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "When we make the video, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "obviously I'll do the interviews and get"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the get the nuance on that. But you have"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "essentially towns, but then you have the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "illegal ones. The Israeli government"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "does not consider these listenit. I"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "mean, and this is like these are"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "cowboys. This is they go out, they go up"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "to a hilltop where they get it's like"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "out of like the wild west. They go up to"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "a hilltop, they erect a bunch of, you"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "know, little buildings and they just"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "start farming and having their goats and"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "whatever. And uh their hope is over time"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the Israeli government will legalize"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "these. And because you have the hard"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "right in power in Israel right now, they"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "are increasingly being recognized and"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "legalized. And then that land becomes"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Israeli land. And this is the theft,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "right? This is when people talk about"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "like when they're saying like they're"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "stealing the land. A lot of it comes"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "down to what these people are doing. So"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "they they literally will just go out"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "there to a hilltop"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> and it's rural."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> It's rural. But you have like what where"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "we went and we saw this at the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "the hill. You had these Bedawin"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "communities. These are nomadic Arabs."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Very very poor. I mean it look they"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "living in what you what you'd find in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "like you know in subsaharan Africa"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "really shanty kind of things. And then"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "at the top of the hill, you'll have the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "settlers come. Yeah. And the settlers,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "they'll frank, a lot of them, not all of"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "them, a lot of them will come and"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "terrorize them. And they'll they'll come"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "through and they'll walk through their"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "stuff. And then the ones at the bottom,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "because they're nomads, they don't"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "actually own the land. So, they can't"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "call the police. They can't do anything."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "They're kind of like they're just there."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "And and this is where you hear settler"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "violence. This is where settler violence"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "happens. So, sometimes you'll have"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "they'll go down and they'll, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "they'll they'll just they'll just kind"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "of [ __ ] with them. And we saw it. We we"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "we this guy showed us a video. These"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "kids, they're kids of settlers. They"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "come through with like she like their"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "sheep or whatever they have. They're"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "like herders and the Israeli kids and"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "they would come through and just run"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "them literally through the homes of the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "of the Arab nomad, the better. And"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "they're and they're just they just sit"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "there and they're just like"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "we can't do anything about it. And but"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the settler's goal is to drive them off"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "so they have more land for the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "settlements. But again, the land doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "really belong to anyone in the sense of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "they don't own it, right? They're"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "nomads. So, so it it gets it's way more"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "complicated than it thinks than than"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "like it seems because you get into like"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "land rights. You get into like the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Palestinian Authority also really"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "mistreats them. So, it's it's a whole"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "it's like it's layers to it."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> But you also this is what I mean when"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "you don't allow a country to have their"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "own military. A military is what backs"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "and uphold effectively. This is not this"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "is a strong way of putting it, but if"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "you're going to look at it brass tax,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "that's effectively what holds up the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "idea of laws meeting something because"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "it's like you have a standing military"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "and then the government that is supposed"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "to like control their actions or"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "whatever. When you don't allow that to"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "happen, you create organizations like"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "the PLO, like Hamas, like these places"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "because that power vacuum, they're going"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "to suck it up every time and say, \"You"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "guys live in shit.\" And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "we're going to keep you in that, but"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "it's not our fault because it's them"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "over there that's doing it. And they"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "have a way to be able to say that. So"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "when we see settler violence on the I"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "won't even say the illicit ones in in in"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "the illicit ones"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "when someone dies is there a murder"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "investigation does like well obviously"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "there there's no [ __ ] Palestinian"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "cops"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> it's up to the Israeli authorities."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> So do they come in and like actually"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "treat it like sh like Sherlock Holmes?"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> This is where the government matters. I"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "mean like I believe it's the Dave. Can"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "you pull up the interior minister of"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Israel? I I don't want to get the name"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "wrong, but essentially the people who"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "control the police right now aren't"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "policing this stuff. And it's it's it's"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "it's a political it's well Cash Patel."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> here you go."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Look, I don't I don't want to get"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "into the names and everything because"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "again, I don't I've got all my notes and"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "everything for"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> Moshi Arbell."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> Yeah. I to be honest, I don't I don't I"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "don't know if it's him. Which one is"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Smootrich? Which one's Bengavir? One one"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "is in charge of"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> Smootrich's finance. Benavir is like the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "national security. It's Bengavir. So, so"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Ben Bangavir is the one who who should"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "be who should be looking at this stuff."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "But yeah, they don't"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> and and it and it's it's it's politics."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "I mean, it's just like But again, I I"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "don't two two things two things worth"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "noting. one I want to get back to what I"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "was saying before about the kabalitz if"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "we want to the tra I mean the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Palestinian issue"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "two things can be true that the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "occupation of the West Bank is is wrong"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "and it comes with all these human rights"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "violations and everything bad that you"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "can say about it there's also an issue"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "in the West Bank for example if you kill"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "an Israeli soldier or an Israeli period"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "not a soldier a citizen you get payments"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "from the Palestinian government to your"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "family for the rest of your for the rest"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "of their lives."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a problem."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": ">> It's like, well, for the Israelis,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "they're just like, it gives them whether"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "whether it's it's cynical or not, it"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "that is that lets the Israelis do what"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "they do. And it's like there is this"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "ideological issue. Now, the reason that"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "they have to allow that is because the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "threat to the government is Hamas,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "right? The threat to the government is"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "not some secular progressive whatever."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "It is an Islamist group. So, they get"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "their they get their credibility by"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "killing Israelis. So, what do you have"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "to do? Well, you got to tolerate the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "ones who kill Israelis and this is this"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "is a huge problem. Now, I understand"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "like you know it"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "it's just complicated. It's just"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "complicated and and and a lot but there"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "are certain issues in here for example"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "like a lot of that money it's like like"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "that's just not good for anyone. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "thing that comes through every single"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "conversation you have there, I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "three days with the Palestinians and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "every conversation you have, they don't"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "even mean to say it, but they'll say,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "you know, things used to be better and"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "then the first inifat happened and then"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "we got the checkpoints. Oh, and then the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "second inifat happened and then we got"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "the wall. Then October 7th happened,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "then more checkpoints. The point is the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "violence has made everything worse for"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "huge, huge help. And if you would like"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "to follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "He like he's just going online every day"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "as if all he's gonna gaslight his whole"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "audience who wanted all these fathers"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "release and wanted the truth to suddenly"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "be like, you know what, Dan might have a"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "point. We might we might we might be"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "good here. I genuinely was just thinking"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "in my head like who actually tunes into"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "him?"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Mike Hegley in episode 351, the second"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "time he was in here back in the fall. I"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "said to him, we put out as a clip"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "actually back then and I put it out on"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "YouTube again recently. No, I didn't I"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "didn't put this one on YouTube, but it's"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "on my Instagram."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> I had said the guy I'm watching is Dan"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Bonino. And this is when Bonino was"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "still working at as the deputy director"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "at FBI. And the reason I said that is"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "because every time I saw Dan Bonino do"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "these public hits throughout his year"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "being"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "deputy director,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "he looked like a hostage. He looked, you"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "know, he always had that vein in his"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "forehead, you know, sit there with his"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "arms like this and freak out into the"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "camera just for a [ __ ] hour about all"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "his politics when he had his pol when"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "when he had his podcast. But like it was"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "that same look except a look of complete"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "like he had seen a ghost, especially"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "when they talked about this case. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "really what I'm referring to. And it"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "felt like he had the weight of the world"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "on his shoulders. And actually, you"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "know, I was hoping"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "I was like obviously, you know, this guy"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "has had some is from a very different"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "world than I am and very different point"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "of view than I am. But I was hoping I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "like if he leaves there, this is why I"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "said I was watching. If he leaves there,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "will he be the volcano that explodes and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "actually brings out some justice? It was"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "wishful thinking. It has been the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "complete opposite. He has run a total PR"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "campaign that you know again we talk"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "about choice A and choice B when you're"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "doing PR. Choice A being not even a good"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "choice but it's just like well this"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "won't make things worse and choice B"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "being like this is the worst possible"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "thing I could say or do. He's hitting"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "choice B"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> like crazy. And"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "he like he's just going online every day"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "as if all he's going to gaslight his"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "whole audience who wanted all these"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "fathers release and wanted the truth to"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "suddenly be like, you know, Dan might"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "have a point. We might we might we might"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "be good here. I genuinely was just"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "thinking in my head like who actually"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "tunes into him? Like who like can you"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "like just can you describe to me like"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the archetype of person who's tuning"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "into Dan Bongino?"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "At this moment, I actually can't I"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "maybe Michael Tracy,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> he's probably tuning in."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> He is. He's definitely probably every"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "[ __ ] word."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> He watched that that clip of Dan and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Cash and he was like, \"Fuck, they're so"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "right.\""}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Yeah, that's it. Nothing to see here."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> Oh man,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> no such thing as a victim. They're not"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "real."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Oh man."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Listen, I am all for the exchange of"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "ideas. I am all for hashing things out"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "in public. I am all for discussing"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "things with nuance. It's quite literally"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "what I do on my show and get a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "[ __ ] for whenever someone's on one side"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "or the other and decides to disagree"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "with a random guess or a point of view"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "or something I say or something like"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "that. [ __ ] it. I don't care. We're going"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "to try to see things where equilibrium"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "There is not an equilibrium"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "within kids."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "There's there's no"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "there's no equilibrium there of like,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "well, it could actually just No, no, no,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "no, no, no, no. Again,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "you want to argue about some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "specific crimes, specific people,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "evidence, or lack thereof, that's cool."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "But when you try to explain away this"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "whole thing and say, \"No, it wasn't even"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "that.\" I've even heard people try to"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "come out and say, \"Well, Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "wasn't wasn't a pedophile. He There's"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "like another term, he was into 16 or 17"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "year olds.\" Well, I guess she didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "read the [ __ ] case from 2005, 2006,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "2007 in West Palm Beach. It's very on"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "record what he was into. like when we"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "are starting to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "not agree on the definition of what a"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "predator is like it's that that's how"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "a story like this goes away because"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "we've lost all common decency in"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "society. So when I see people who are"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "doing that"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "their opinion is discarded on this"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "matter I don't want to know them. I"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "don't want to deal with them. This is"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "not to quote the old like leftist"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "ideology. This isn't a political issue."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "It's it's about human rights. This it"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "actually kind of applies here, okay?"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "It's not a political issue about"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "trafficking kids. And we got litany"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "mountains of evidence about it. We have"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "emails where he admits it. We have all"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the emails talking in code. We got"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "pictures of all these [ __ ] I"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "disgusting things that"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "even the redacted things look absolutely"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "disgusting. Imagine what they look like"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "unredacted. Like there are plenty of"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "details once again to still be found and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "to not treat as law. And I said that at"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "the beginning of the intro, I'll repeat"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "it again. We have to go where the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "evidence leads us, no matter where that"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "is. But there are a list of things that"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "on a broad 30,000 foot view in the air"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "cannot be argued with at this point."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "This is a case regarding sex"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "trafficking. It is a case regarding"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "child sex trafficking. It is a case"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "regarding infinite blackmail. It is"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "intelligence related to multiple"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "intelligence agencies from Assad to CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "to other places potentially as well that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "I think clearly have evidence of in of"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "intelligence pedaling that Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Epstein did. It is world banking"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "related. We have seen that. That is"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "without question. We see that Epstein"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "talked about representing the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Rothschilds. We see them corroborating"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "that in the emails and it is arms deals"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "related because we have seen them"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "discuss the trilateral commission and"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "many things like that. When you can't"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "start with the basic facts like that and"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "when you are someone who says that none"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "of that stuff is real, none of it, you"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "know, maybe one or two you argue because"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "you're a little uninformed. Okay, fine."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "I'll have that argument with you and"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "we'll hash it out like human beings. But"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "when you try to say none of that's"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "happening or basically none of that's"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "happening or well it's all made up and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "you know guys like Wes Les Wexner are"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "totally innocent. There's no"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "conversation"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "there. There's no conversation. I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "sorry. No, I'm I'm not sorry. I'm sorry"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "that I'm not sorry. How about that?"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> You own the payroll, mate. on the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "payroll. Allegedly payroll."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> Allegedly. I say that without any"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "evidence."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> I say that without any evidence."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Me, too."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> But people like that have the appearance"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "of being on somebody's payroll."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> And you know, maybe their microphone"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "doesn't work suddenly when they're asked"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> Uh, oldest trick in the book, dude."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> Oldest trick in the book."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> That that that that had John cracking."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "John was just like,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> \"Oh yeah, cuz John and Ben were on the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "[ __ ] battle.\""}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": ">> John John looked into camera and just"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "did this. John was doing the Jack"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Nicholson meme like like that and loved"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "it. It's incredible."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Incredible. But Bill Gates, Bill Gates"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "apologized. Did you see that?"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> Yeah, I did see that. I mean, last week"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "he said that [ __ ] wasn't real. And now"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "he said some of it's real, which means"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "next week more of it'll be real."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Oh, that's not good. Yeah, I got that"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "right here. Actually, I got this post."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> You do?"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> New York Post."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> Yeah. So, he admitted to two affairs"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "with two different Russian women. I"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "guess he has a type, but one of them was"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "one that we've discussed on the podcast"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "before because it was released in a Wall"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Street Journal article like two or three"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "years ago. And it was the bridge player."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "I think her name was Masha. She was"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "trying to start like this bridge related"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "app or something like that that she"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "wanted Jeffrey Epstein to invest in and"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Epstein hooked Bill Gates up with her"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "and they ended up [ __ ] and she was of"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "age. I'll say that part because that's"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "what he's admitting to. He's admitting"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "to affairs when he was married to"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Melinda that were of age. But"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "this also comes out of"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "there being that draft email that"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein wrote to himself about"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "trying to help Bill with an STD that he"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "may have given his wife and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "giving her a secret serum unknowingly in"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "her drink to help her"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "get treatment for it. Like, it's really"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "sick [ __ ] But he's he's not admitting"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "he made very specific that he's not"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "admitting to any crimes or being a"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "witness to any crimes, but he did travel"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "with the guy around the world and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "regrets all of his"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "dealings with him in doing that. But"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "like you said, DeF, it's another example"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "of the puck moving a little bit. Thank"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "you guys for watching the episode. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "He always ends up in places. That's the"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "thing. He's always in the right place."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> He's long been in the right place at the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "right time."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> There was one phone call I was on with a"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "guy who was talking my ear off back in"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "2022"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "that I another one of those like shiver"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "up the spines cuz this was after I had"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "read the Abbott piece. I was on to this"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "with Steve Bannon. And this dude was"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "listing off a whole bunch of things and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "he starts talking about this guy Brock,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Mighty Ducks Brock guy. Can we Google"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "that? Brock uh"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Brock Pierce."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Brock Pierce. You know about Brock"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Pierce?"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Brock Pierce is worth a [ __ ] ton of"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "money. Made it. He was an Mighty Ducks"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "actor."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "What do you think the angle with Bannon"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "was looking at this? Because Bannon"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "leaves the White House with Trump after"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "he's fired."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> And then from all the texts we can see,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "which are cringe, the emails we can see,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "he is essentially becoming that PR guy."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Yeah, he is"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> for Jeffrey Epste. He even has an email"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "in there where he's like,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> \"You have a [ __ ] jihad against you.\""}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "The likes of which I've never seen and"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "I've seen a lot of [ __ ] And then, you"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "know, they're following up emails on"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "here where he's sending Jeffrey articles"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "and saying, \"Well, this makes you sound"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "like you're contrite.\" and you know"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "talking about all this stuff and then he"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "films him on camera for what was"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "reported to be up to 18 hours worth of"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "footage. We have like 2 to four hours of"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "it or something through the files. You"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "know this is a guy Bannon who like I"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "said goes way back to the 80s with all"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "these people. Is he is he a spy? Like"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "I've always believed that. Do you think"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "that's plausible?"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Plausible?"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "likely. I I can't imagine"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> why"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> because at the position that he was"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "counselor to the president, he would"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "have been vetted should have been vetted"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "nine ways from Sunday. He should have"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "been the FBI should have been all over"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "this. Of course, you know my position on"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the FBI. though."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> but Howard, you say that Howard L"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "commerce advisor Leon Black's Leon"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Black's son works in the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "administration. Like these are vetting"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "101."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Yeah, you're right. You're right. Sure."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "It's plausible. I'm trying to think what"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "the hook would be, what what the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "what the vulnerability would be to"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "recruit him because Bannon's almost a"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "billionaire,"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> right? He owns the rights to Seinfeld"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "and a whole bunch of other things. He's"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "worth the last I saw several years ago,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "he was worth $750 million. So, you're"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "not going to recruit him with money."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Unless he was recruited before he got it"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> unless Okay, that's a good point."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> He always ends up in places. That's the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "thing. He's always in the right place."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> He's long been in the right place at the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "right time. There was one phone call I"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "was on with a guy who was talking my ear"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "off back in 2022"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> that I another one of those like shiver"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "up the spines because this was after I"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "had read the Abbott piece. I was on to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "this with Steve Bannon and this dude was"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "listing off a whole bunch of things and"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "he starts talking about this guy Brock"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Mighty Ducks Brock guy. Can we Google"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "that? Brock uh"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> Brock Pierce."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> Brock Pierce. You know about Brock"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Pierce? No,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> Brock Pierce is worth a [ __ ] ton of"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "money. Made it. He was an Mighty Ducks"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "actor. Ends up, I'm going to really"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "shorten this up for people, but he ends"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "up in a partnership business-wise with"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "this guy who ends up having these"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "parties out in Hollywood where they the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "the guy is is"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "boys, underage boys."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> My god."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> And that ends up coming out and then"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "they all flee to Spain. That guy ends up"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "getting arrested. He stands I think he"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "stands trial or makes a deal or"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "something and then eventually gets"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "permission to leave the country for some"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "sort of surgery and never comes back and"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "gets a new name."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> But Brock"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> bec can you pull up as Wikipedia de cuz"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "now it's in there and this is starting"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "to like break open. I've been telling"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "people to pull on this, but go down. Def"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Brock ends up up a little more,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "more,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "more, more. Right. And"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "up a little more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Okay. So, Brock ends up founding in"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "2001. Now, I'm going right off"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Wikipedia, people. He founded internet"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "gaming entertainment, a company that"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "pioneered the MMORPG"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "currency selling services industry."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Between 04 and05, spent more than $25"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "million buying out seven smaller"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "competitors, including four auction"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "platforms and many fan and content"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "sites. And in ' 05, PICE estimated the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "accounted for about 50% of this online"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "market in the US, which has about $500"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "million in annual volume. Pierce brought"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "in Steve Bannon, formerly of Goldman"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Sachs and Breitbart News, to seek"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "venture capital, and a deal was made in"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "February 2006, yielding 60 million, of"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "which Pierce took away 20 million for a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "minority stake. The next year, the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "company faced a class action lawsuit"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "with no assets. The company failed and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Pierce was conveniently forced out. Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "go down to the Epstein section, Def."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "In February 2026, an investigation by"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the Kev Independent and newly released"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "US Department of Justice documents on"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein reported that the files"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "included an email in which a man"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "identified as Piers, described as a"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "co-founder of Tether, told Epstein that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "a boat in Antigua full of amazing uh"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Ukraine's finest was waiting for him."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "from a separate analysis of the same"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "document released by the crypto news"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "outlet Proto stated that in 2012 after"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "EP asked PICE to take photos and find me"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "a present during a trip to Moscow, Kev,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "and Odessa, which is where they would"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "source a lot of underage women and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "traffic them. By the way, Pierce emailed"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Epstein's dozens of photographs of the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Ukrainian woman named Anastasia and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "closed the message by writing that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Ukraine is now my favorite country. And"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "in another email, he invited Epstein to"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "join him on a boat in Antigua. Once"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "again, full of Ukraine's finest. This is"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "stuff that is now new online that I was"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "told in 2002 directly about this. And"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "just conveniently, this guy before he"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "even blows up, he was a Mighty Ducks"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "actor. Before he blows up as a"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "businessman and before, like this person"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "I was on the phone with also told me"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "about his Jeffrey Epstein connections as"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "well. before that he just happens to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "bring in Steve Bannon to this video game"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "community that also then this is where"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "it gets above my pay grade but it has"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and thief pull that mic around because I"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "want you to say what you're going to say"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "but it has to do with moving money"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "online that's like through video game"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "coins that can be laundered into other"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "stuff maybe people out there can help me"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "but go ahead"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> I was going to say because it was a big"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "thing that China had first gotten"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "involved with with the video game"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Runescape they'd sell in-game currency"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "for real money but this is weird And I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "only going to bring this point up for"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "you to pull on if you want. This whole"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "conspiracy that they keep seeing all"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "this activity from Epstein's account on"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Fortnite and all these video games."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Just think that's a weird little"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "connection now to know that Bannon was"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "involved with that. Just saying. I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> Yeah, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> It's weird."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> I don't know, man. And he's still very"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "much an insider in Washington. He's got"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "his podcast. He's got a house on Capitol"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Hill."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> He's very The war room. Yep."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> What do we do? Do you just blow it all"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "up?"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> You know what? We're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "We're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "like even if it means taking to the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "streets, demand the release of all the"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "remaining documents. We have to. They"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "have to be released. First of all, the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "law mandates that they be released. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "not at the Pam body or anybody else."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "They have to be released. That's the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "law."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "And then we need to rely on people like"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "you"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "to go through these things and make"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "sense of them."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "How about all the code words they're"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "using?"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Yeah. See, now that's another thing."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "See, and this is we're weakened by the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "fact that we can't charge people with"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "crimes. You know, imagine how easy how"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "much easier it would be"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "to say, \"Look, you're involved in this."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "We've got a conspiracy charge hanging"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "over you. You're going to do at least 5"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "years or you can tell us what all these"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "code words mean and walk us through this"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "one step at a time and then we'll figure"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "out, you know, something a little"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "easier.\""}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "But DOJ can't do that. Thank you guys"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "for watching the episode. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "already, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "button and smash that like button on the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "video. They're both a huge, huge help."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "And if you would like to follow me on"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Instagram and X, those links are in my"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "description below."}]

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I have a Cuban soldier, ex-Cuban"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "soldier that's a friend of mine that"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "I've wanted to do an interview with, but"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "he refuses to in case he gets deported"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "because it could mean his life."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Talking about foreign policy, Mark and I"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "were talking about Venezuela back in"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "November, and here we are. We're over in"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "taking the oil specifically what he"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "wants. And I got to say, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "principles, I try to live a principled"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "existence, man. and discipline. You have"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "to discipline yourself or life will do"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "it for you. And so"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> I'm sitting here thinking it's not okay"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "if we have a bunch of guns and superior"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "strength and going over stripping all"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the natural resources out of Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "which the Venezuelan people need to"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "build infrastructure to pro um provide"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "jobs for them, strengthen their economy."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> What becomes of them? And I hear a lot"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "of my conservative brethren, and I do"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "vote conservatively. I'm a libertarian,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "but I vote conservatively or all, no, we"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "need to go in there and take care of"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "American interests and stuff like that."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "But if someone was to get together a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "posy of people that was armed and went"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "into whatever conservative's house and"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "just because they had"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "might makes right type deal goes in and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "removes them of all of their hard-earned"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "things or whatever they have a right to"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "and took it, they'd be like, \"Oh, that's"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "against the law.\" But on a national"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "level, we're going to do it to"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Venezuela. A lot of times politicians,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "they'll try to keep us divided and if"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "they we start uniting behind something"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "like Alice Pretty and Freddy and all"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "these people being killed,"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> then they'll want to get us into a war."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "And war is actually a population control"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "thing. And it that's what war is for."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> It's for controlling population. That"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "way people can't get a large enough"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "group to go against the government. And"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the police and the powers that be don't"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "protect us. They protect whatever"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "institutional or the infrastructure and"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "the political power that's in control."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "That's what they protect. They don't"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "protect anything else. And you learn"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "that in law school, too. And so, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "just that goes back to Lysander Spooner"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "also. I don't think we should be in"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Venezuela. There's just all this stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "going on."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> Yeah. And and that's that's my first"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "thought, too. And I think sometimes"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "people mishar this in the argument. What"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "what you're not saying and what I've"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "certainly not been saying is that like"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "for the Venezuelan people if they could"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "have no Maduro or Maduro, we're not"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "saying like, \"Oh, it's better with"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Maduro.\" No, clearly like they have a"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "way better opportunity now potentially"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "with not having that guy there. Like he"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "would he was a despot and a communist"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> without a doubt. I don't like him at"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "all. The question though that is"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "shouldn't be like a big it's not a big"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "brain thing is like should the United"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "States get involved in removing the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "leader of a sovereign country?"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> No, definitely not. And"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "button. It's a huge, huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> You know, I'm just going to say it."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Let's just get in trouble. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "just got shot in the head like I was"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "talking about with that pepper ball"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "thing. I was down exercising my first"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "amendment right because I think that"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "every American regardless of religion,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "creed, race, whatever, has an intrinsic"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "right to their life, an intrinsic right"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "to speak whatever it is they want to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "say, even if it's blatantly racist. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "just going to say it. Reason why, of"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "course, racism is abhorrent, but you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "cannot legislate the way people need to"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "think. Because if you do that, then you"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "prevent the free flow of ideas, which is"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "a dangerous thing because if you shut"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "off the spigot to someone being able to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "vent, someone else to being able to"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "challenge your ideas, then you're"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "building a time time bomb or a powder"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "keg to where it's just going to blow up."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> We have all these things going on here"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "on here in this country. And I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "want China coming over being like, you"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "know what, Trump's no good for the for"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the American people or Barack Obama's no"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "good. That's for us to decide."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Here domestically at home."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> And the same's true principles. They"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "don't bend for anybody, man. And the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "same's true for the Venezuelans. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Maduro bad. Totally,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> But it's not our business. And you know"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "what? I try to be as objective on stuff"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "like this as I can. There's two things"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "that are immediately true that are score"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "one for one team, score one for the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "other team. Number one, Trump broke a"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "campaign promise to go in and remove the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "leader of a sovereign nation in quote"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "unquote regime change, which is"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "something he campaigned that he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "going to do. That is a broken promise."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> Number two, no boots are there on the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "ground. Clean [ __ ] unbelievably"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "executed mission in out. No civilian."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "So right now it's there. However, Dave,"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "I've been saying to people when they ask"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "me like, \"Well, what's your opinion on"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "this and everything?\" Of course, I have"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the same fears you do, and I don't like"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "the idea of any regime change"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "whatsoever. But I'm like, if I'm going"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "to be fair and objective here as best as"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "I can, just look at it on the facts. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "not going to be able to have an answer"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "for that for probably one to two years"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "because the second, third, fourth,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "fifth, seventh, and [ __ ] 40th order"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "effects that can happen from this"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "precedent that could be set or not set."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "president that's good for the US or good"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "for China which would do very different"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "things or both or a mix or how the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Venezuelan people once they settle into"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "their newfound potential freedom start"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "to feel about all the [ __ ] gringoes"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "coming in to share 50% of their oil that"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "they used to have 0% of but now they're"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "like well we should have 100% of it"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "which I would totally understand you"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "don't know how these things are going to"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "play out and so you have to in my"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "opinion you have to let that happen"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "however if I see this as a precedent"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "that leads to like oh you know what"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "we're going to do the actual regime"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "change in Iran, which is now like a holy"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "war type situation, setting off a powder"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "keg in the Middle East, like your George"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Bush [ __ ] 3.0. And then therefore, by"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the way, China goes, \"Oh [ __ ] now we're"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "going to take Taiwan.\" Well, now it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "[ __ ] disaster, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Taiwan's going to be a problem with all"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "the microchips, too. I mean, they've got"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "different types of chips that they"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "produce"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> domestically and and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "in Taiwan and the different types of"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "chips that they use. Taiwan produces a"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "certain type of chip. It's escaping me"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "right now, but they have different types"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "of chips. And if China decides that"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "they're just going to take Taiwan,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "it's going to be an issue. And the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "reason why is since Trump's been in"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "office, he's threatened Mexico,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "threatened Canada, threatened Denmark in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "terms of Greenland, threatening Iran,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Venezuela. The Turkish generator ship"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "that was off the coast of Cuba left. So"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Cuba is relying solely on Venezuelan um"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "petroleum to power the entire country of"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Cuba. I have a Cuban soldier, ex-Cuban"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "soldier that's a friend of mine that"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "I've wanted to do an interview with, but"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "he refuses to in case he gets deported"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "because it could mean his life if he"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "goes back to Cuba and he's spoken out"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "against what goes on in Cuba. But there"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "are large sections of Cuba that only and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "he's told me this straight up that only"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "have power for up to two hours a day."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "And you just yanked already and you just"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "yanked all the Venezuelan crude out of"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "there. So there are all these different"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "countries that are strengthening their"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "ro resolve against us collectively as a"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "unit. We need to really start thinking"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "about the relationship"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "that the United States maintains with"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "everybody. And as you were talking"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "about, the presidents have a huge amount"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "of sway per Nixon on foreign power."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> Well, if we start wielding that club"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "like it's just a dragon tail going"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "through, laying waste to everything and"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "everybody in the world decides to"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "galvanize against us, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "suffer here at home. And I I we'll get"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "into Mexico in a little while, but"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "people, the main reason why I started my"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "podcast is I want to make sure people"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "are armed with the facts. Whatever the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "facts are, I don't care what the data"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "is. I don't care what people think or"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "make or do with the data as long as it's"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "accurate."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "If we go to war with Mexico, for"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "example, it's going to destroy us here"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "economically at home. All of your all of"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "your cheap avocados, your burgers over"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "at Carl's Jr., or whatever. White"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Castle, you can forget it because all"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the cheap beef and everything that's"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "coming over to the United States from"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Mexico,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the autos, Nissan factory and Aqua"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Scales is just huge. There's so many"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "things that's going to just really"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "damage our way of life here in the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "United States as well as those in Mexico"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "and it's going to bring about a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "suffering that was unnecessary. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "there's a there's a lot to this."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> Yeah. And that was that was the really"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "disingenuous part in the buildup to the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Venezuela thing which was happening for"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "over like basically like a year. When"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "DeF and I went to Paris in Rome back in"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "December, it was actually one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "easiest trips I ever packed for. I knew"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "I wanted to have kind of that Euro look"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "which includes some nice, beautiful"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "jeans and I had all my jeans ready to go"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "thanks to Rag and Bone. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "joined their movement yet, it's time for"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "you to upgrade to Rag and Bones infused"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "denim. Let me tell you about it. 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Where you had people,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "including after we did it, like Heg"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Seth, saying, \"Yeah, this is about the"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "drugs.\" I'm not saying Venezuela didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "move drugs. Of course they did. But like"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "they already removed the cartel de los"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "soles from the [ __ ] indictment on"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Maduro because that was like a madeup"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "name. And as far as like the volume of"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "drugs goes, [ __ ] Venezuela was moving"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "three baggies in an eightball compared"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "to what Mexico moves. pulled I pulled"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "the Department of Justa justice PDF data"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "from 2007 and also the PDF report for"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "the drug threat vector from the Drug"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Enforcement Administration from 2025."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "And I compared the data and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> how long these documents, Dave?"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> Huh?"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": ">> How long are these documents?"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> They're pretty long, but there's a there"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "and I read a lot, man."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> I love it. So anyways, in the 2007, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "actually 2006, but they published it in"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "2007 from the Department of Justice out"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "of the threat vector. There's a PDF"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "there. I I'll have to send you. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "I probably got it on my phone right now."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> Which one?"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> It's a PDF in there."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> Which phone?"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> Uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> we got the bat phone over there."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> U Well, actually, I've got two of them"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "because of my podcast thing. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> wait, did you find it? National. Is that"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Here you go. Go down,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> dude. He's the goat. Deep's the [ __ ] I"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Yeah. No, that's pretty badass. So, if"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "you go all the way down, just go control"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "F threat vector."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": ">> It's like Mike Ben's."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> Okay, you're going to have to go down. I"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "don't know if they'll have it on there"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "because it's a PDF. It's a graphic file"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "in there."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> Car Western Caribbean."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> There it is. Right there. Go up."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> Oh, boom. So, anyways,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> this is a different one. This is This is"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "But it's in the arch, I think. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "to get up out of my thing,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> please. Yeah. Yeah. Let's hit that"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "camera, baby."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> You look at the Venezuela threat vector."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Puerto Rican, US Virgin Islands, Haiti,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Dominican Republic, and then you look at"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the Eastern Pacific, and you got people"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "on Twitter reposting Spanish boats and"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "drug seizures and acting like it it's"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "relevant to Venezuela. Forget it."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Because over here you've got less than"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "1% coming out of Venezuela. So when you"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "got all of your conservative buddies"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "online talking about those aren't"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "fishing boats and stuff, first of all"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "was a Spanish drug seedure. Second of"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "all, your own department of justice in"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "2007 is talking about less than 1%"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "coming out of that vector. And then the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "drug enforcement administration, which"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "is yet another PDF, drug threat"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "assessment. If you look at Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "it's mentioned exactly six times in the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "2025 PDF"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "of which is talking about Train Diaga"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "being here in the United States selling"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "drugs at a street level. So Venezuela is"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "so far removed from either being a"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "provider of fentanyl, which it's not."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "It's only cocaine."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> That's right. So when people are having"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "these conversations, I don't care if you"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "want to be hillbilly gym in the middle"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "of the hills, burning crosses or"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "whatever, just have an educated"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "argument, man. If you want to hate"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "people, what I'm not going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "what to think, but when you're telling"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "me that fentanyl is coming out of"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Venezuela and those aren't drug boats or"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "fishing boats off the coast of"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "they're not fishing boats there at all"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "because there's no drugs coming out of"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Venezuela to begin with. And second of"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "all, where more than 50% of the drugs"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "are coming, which is in the Pacific,"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "you're not blowing up anything. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "don't tell me it's just it's what it is,"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "man."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "huge, huge help. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "He would have had to have bumped up"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "against CIA ops people, right? Or even"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "if not CIA ops people, NSC people who"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "were in up to their necks in this thing."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> National Security Council."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> National Security Council, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "likes of of um as I said, Admiral Po"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Dexter, Richard Cord, uh Oliver North,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "all these guys. So even if if you're not"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "dealing directly with agency people,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "although you probably would be, you're"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "going to at least be dealing with White"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "House people."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "But the thing I had wanted to bring it"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "to when I was bringing up the early"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "origins of Jeffrey Epstein with that aly"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "mama deal is obviously"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> the point there is that there is some"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "sort of relationship with intelligence"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "intelligences."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> Absolutely. at the time. And there is a"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "tweet. I sent it to you, D. Yep. He has"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "it up. So, this is from Ronald Reagan"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> about Iran Contra. Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> In his new auto, And this is from back"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "in the day, obviously, because he's"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "dead. Uh, in the new autobiography,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "former President Ronald Reagan says"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Israel was the instigator and prime"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "mover in the Iran Contra affair. He"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "blames the Israelis for misleading him"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "into believing he was selling arms to"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "so-called Iranian moderates when some"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "quote may have had links to the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Ayatollah Kameese government and were"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "trying to obtain weapons under false"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "pretenses unquote. Israel began the arms"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "deals with Iran when it contacted Robert"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "McFarland Reagan's national security"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "adviser to propose the first sale and"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "continued to press the secret dealings"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "thereafter. Reagan writes in an American"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "life that Prime Minister Shimon Perez"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "was behind the proposal. 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So with Ryan Contra they"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "were trying to get weapons to the sand"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and east as in South America. and they"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "were trying to do it by financing a $150"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "million deal to with through Iran when"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "we weren't supposed to be dealing with"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "postrevolution Iran in the 80s. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "like the very high level version of it."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> it says down here too, Patrick Ali says"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "that that Epstein was was roommates with"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "uh with Stanley Potinger."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "He was in up to his neck in Iran Contra."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Roommates, partners and roommates with"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "J. Stanley Pottinger who helped ship"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "weapons to Iran prior to Iran Contra."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "Can we read this, Steve?"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> Good grief."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> So, according to his former friend, the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "journalist Jesse Cornbluth, who's"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Epsteined up the ass."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> In pause. In the mid 1980s, Epstein said"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "he worked"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> he worked for governments to recover"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "money looted by African dictators and"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "occasionally subcontracted to those same"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "autocrats to help them hide their stolen"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "money. A source who spoke with"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "journalist Vicky Ward from Vanity Fair"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "the 03 piece said one of Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "clients was the late Saudi arms dealer"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Hashogi a middleman in the in the Iran"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Contra scandal who helped smuggle cash"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "for the Marcos family out of the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Philippines in 1988. Hashogi was"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "arrested in Switzerland. That's hard to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "do for concealing assets and later faced"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "fraud and racketeering charges in the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "US. He was later acquitted. Must had a"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "great attorney. That year he sold his"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "200 He sold his 282 foot yacht to the"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Sultan of Brun who soon flipped it to"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Donald Trump. And let's go to the next"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "one right here. Epstein was fired from"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Bear Sterns around the time he met"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Douglas Lee who I was telling you about."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Epstein then started a short-lived"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "partnership with Jay Stanley Pottinger,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "a former US Department of Justice"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "official who was investigated for his"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "role in dealing arms to the Islamic Pro"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Republic of Iran. The Iran Contra affair"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "appears to be a pivotal moment in in"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Epstein's life. Between 81 and '86, the"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Reagan administration covertly sold arms"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "to Iran, which was at war with Saddam"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Hussein's Iraq. So, they were selling to"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "the Iranians they didn't like cuz they"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "liked Saddam Hussein even less."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> My question is, why is he this didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "wasn't clocking to me at first because"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "I'd looked at this very quickly before"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "we got on air. Why is Reagan saying that"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "that benefited the Israelis when the"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Israelis really don't like the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "regime? Like that has always been their"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "big bug. the but the Iranians back then"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "didn't have a nuclear program and it was"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Iraq that was the real like immediate"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "threat to to Israel because the Iraqis"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "did have a nuclear program and a"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "biological weapons program and a"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "chemical weapons program and they were"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "working with a Belgian inventor named"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Gerald Bull to um to"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the the Iraqis were to build something"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "called the the big gun."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> This is one of the very first things I"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "learned about my first week uh at the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "CIA. Gerald Bull created this this giant"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "gun that was so big you just had to sort"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "of lean the barrel up against the side"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "of a mountain, point it in essentially"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the right direction, and then fire it."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "And it it would send a shell as far as a"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "missile would go. And nobody wanted to"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "buy it. They're like, \"What are we going"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "to do with this giant gun?\" Right? It's"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "as big as a house. And so the Iraqis"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "said, \"We'll take it.\""}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "And so the Iraqis bought this thing and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "before"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "it kept cracking when when Bull would"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "would test it, it kept cracking. So, he"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "came up with this idea to put what he"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "called a condom on the inside of the gun"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "to smooth the barrel and to and to keep"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "the the reverberation from the shot from"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "cracking it. But before he could test it"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "with the condom inside, the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "assassinated him."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> They're pretty good at that."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Gerald Bull and his giant gun."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "I remember saying to my boss, like I"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "say, I was only on the job for a week. I"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "said, \"This is a joke, right?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "said, \"No, no, this is deadly serious."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "It's a giant gun. They have to lean it"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "up on the side of the mountain to fire"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "it.\""}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> I'm picturing that thing in Game of"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Thrones they were trying to take the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "dragon out with just like, \"Come on,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "baby. Let's go.\""}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> All right. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "you had always maintained"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "that Jeffrey Epstein was a MSAD access"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "agent."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Do you think I wanted to bring this up"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "first so we at least had the context of"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "what Ronald Reagan said about this?"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> Probably his handler said about it"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "because I don't think he was all there"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "by the time he wrote that book."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Not a chance. So, so do you think"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "that in something like that, if in fact"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the Israelis had an interest in seeing"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Iraq be"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "neutralized more, do you think that this"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "is the prime type of situation where he"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "could have been recruited at that time?"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> Do you think that's what happened? You"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "know, when you're when you put all of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "these episodes together in a line, that"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "would make sense to me."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Next question."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "This is a deal where the CIA is running"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "a lot of ops as well, meaning they have"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "to know he's involved with this."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> You know, that's a good question."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "He would have had to have bumped up"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "against CIA ops people or even if not"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "CIA ops people, NSC people who were in"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "up to their necks in this thing."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> National Security Council."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> National Security Council, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "likes of of um as I said, Admiral Po"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Dexter, Richard Cord, uh Oliver North,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "all these guys. So even if if you're not"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "dealing directly with agency people,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "although you probably would be, you're"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "going to at least be dealing with White"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "House people."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Now you had said earlier"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "you had never heard Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "mentioned at CIA. You did hear Hashigi"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "mentioned though a bunch"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> all the time."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> Hashigi was also like extremely public"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "for throughout a lot of his life."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "If"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "seven people from the NSC and CIA"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "directly dealt or at least bumped into"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein during said mission,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Iran Contra, which was a cover up, they"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "were covering up something they were"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "doing."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> That's right. The comp is it reasonable"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "to say that the compartmentalization"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "structure of espionage bureaucracy in"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "the United States government would mean"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "that those people would chart this maybe"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "have it in their own files but not"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "necessarily share it with anybody."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> Yes. And I can tell you exactly how that"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "would play out if I were one of the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "agency guys involved and I run into this"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "American guy who's in the middle of it"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and he's not with us and he's not with"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "the White House people then who the hell"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "is he with? So what I would have done is"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "I first would have gone to the White"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "House people and say, \"Who's this"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "American, this Epstein guy?\" And then I"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "would have gone to the FBI and say,"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "\"Listen, just so you know, we're doing"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "this highly compartmentalized"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "top secret operation. You don't need to"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "know what it's about, but you do need to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "know that there is a private citizen"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "involved who's an American"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "just so you can start a file on him."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Just in case this is going to be a"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "counter intelligence problem for us in"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "the future."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "It doesn't look like that was ever done."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "I can't imagine why."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> That was going to be my next question."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "What would be something"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> he had to have had protection at the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "White House? He had to have"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> at that time"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> way back then sometime between 1981 and"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "198 you know four or five."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> All right. Wait a second. That would"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "make sense for a second. So if he has"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "protection at the White House maybe"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "through a technical intermediary like"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Oliver North or something like that."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> They're doing this under the table. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "a crime."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> So he's going to be like it's more like"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "the mob. Like all right I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "nothing."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> I know who that guy is. But I can't tell"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "people I know who that guy is. Because"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "then they'll say how do you know who"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "that guy is? So now we got a problem."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Okay. That's right. See, you know, I had"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "never thought of that."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> But now that we're playing it out,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> that makes sense to me."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> This is why you're here."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> So I had always, again, my mind is very"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "open on all this. I am not married to"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "any of this stuff. What I had always"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "thought just very 30,000 foot view in"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "the air, and some people have misheard"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "me on recent episodes on how I explain"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "this, so I need to do a better job. I'd"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "always looked at it like, okay, he's"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "working with MSAD or and you have to say"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> or with other intelligence organizations"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "in Israel, because they're not the only"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "one. That's right."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Like Jonathan Pard wasn't with MSAD, it"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "was with the military."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> That's right. It was military."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Same [ __ ] but different name. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "right. But MSD's an you know, we have"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "what 18 different intelligence agencies,"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> right? You you would think one or two"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "might be enough, but that's"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> But I always thought he worked with"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "them. And then the thing that really"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "shifted things for Jeffrey Epstein and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "his timeline was the I believe September"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "2002 flight with Bill Clinton, Kevin"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Spacy, and Chris Tucker, which made Page"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Six. Prior to then, Jeffrey Epstein was"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "known as a New York City socialite and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "not known publicly. He was known on the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "socialite circles, which"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> by the way, when someone's known as a"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "socialite in New York, red flag should"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "be flying. But he's he's a in this case"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "a good spy. He's doing all his sick"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "[ __ ] He's going to the White House 18"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "times. No one knows who the [ __ ] the guy"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "is and everything. And then all of a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "sudden, boom, flight happens. Page six"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "story. Then he has to do the interview"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "with Vicky Ward in March 2003. He's out"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "there. No coincidence in some ways that"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "his case starts coming up in '05 in"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Florida cuz he's a known guy in some"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "respects. And so my thought always was,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "and if I were a betting man, I would"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "have said it was probably late 90s when"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Clinton was still in office. My bet"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "always was that CIA was asleep at the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "wheel, maybe because of the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "compartmentalization we just talked"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> And you know, then they probably find"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "out, maybe it's 1996, I'll put a year on"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "it, 97. They find out so far this guy's"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "been to the Clinton White House 15"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "times, maybe."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> They're like, who the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Yeah. Who's this?"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> It's this guy and the British lady who's"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "whose dad ran the Daily Mirror and he"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "started all the [ __ ] peer reviews and"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "runs all our kids textbooks in America"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "and got buried on the Mount of Olives in"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "[ __ ] Israel 5 days after he got"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "pushed off a boat."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> Why is this [ __ ] coming in with"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "the guy who's taking [ __ ] from the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "[ __ ] intern? You know, imagine the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "stories that you could piece together if"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "you had unfettered access just to the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "visitor log."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Just to that."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": ">> Right. So, someone"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Linda at Langley, right,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> goes, \"Wait a minute. We got a problem.\""}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Takes it up the chain of command"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "suddenly says, \"Boss, I don't know who"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the [ __ ] this guy is.\" They then take 10"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "minutes to look into it and they're"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, he's running a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "pedal ring at the behest of the Victoria"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Secret guy in [ __ ] New York City.\""}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> holy [ __ ] he's involved with Iran"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Contra. He's [ __ ] working with MSAD."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "He seems to be an intelligence dealer."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "The [ __ ] wife who's not really the"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "wife's a problem. She's connected up the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "ass to all this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> Oh my god. THEY GOT DIRT ON EVERYONE,"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "including the current president. This is"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "a crisis the likes of which if we outed"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "this everything could fall. Sounds very"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "familiar today by the way."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> Yes it does."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> So they say in that moment now I you"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "know I proposed the New Jersey solution."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "I'm like just [ __ ] blow his brains"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "out,"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": ">> You know say to Msad, what are you going"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "to do about it?"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> I know a lot of guys that would do that,"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": ">> right? Okay, good. I don't know where"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "they were at this time. You know, we"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "could have called up [ __ ] Vinnie and"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Roco. They didn't take care of"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": ">> mentioned exactly what I was thinking."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> That's right. But they didn't do that."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "And this is what I just always posited."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "And it's a theory. I I can't say like,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "\"Yo, I got evidence this happened.\" But"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "I'm like, they looked at it and they"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "said, \"Oh shit.\" And they go to the guy"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "and they go, \"All right, you know that"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "we know that you know that we know that"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "you know that we know what you're doing"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "here. And you know that we know that you"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "know that we know that you [ __ ] have"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "been doing this a long time and you"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "could take down the whole system if we"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "tell people about that.\" And so you know"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "that we know that you know that we know"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "that now we're in a Mexican standoff."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": ">> And so here's the deal. You're going to"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "have to keep doing whatever it is the"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "[ __ ] you do, but now you pay a tax."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "You're on our soil. You're going to give"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "us some information, too."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> And so now, what John, what did he"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "foyer? He foyed the years 2000 to 2014."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": ">> Pretty interesting to me,"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> I'll say."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> Am I crazy or am I crazy?"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": ">> No, it's a it's a great catch. And it"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "also would tend to implicate both the"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "Bush and the Clinton administrations."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> That's right. Thank you guys for"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "watching the episode. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Here's some new footage from Tel Aviv."}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "And I was speaking to sources in Tel"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Aviv who were showing me videos outside"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "of their freaking window of what they"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "were seeing, but you won't see this on"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Fox News at all. This is this is Tel"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Aviv. Um, you know, of course, buildings"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "being blown up, direct hits right next"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "to city hall. But why is Fox News, do"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "you think, not really covering any of"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "this damage in Tel Aviv, Colonel? Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "look, uh, I just saw a few minutes ago a"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "interview with Keith Kellogg on Fox"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "News, and they were asking him about a,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "uh, I think it was a Wall Street Journal"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "report that said that we're going to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "have to do something pretty quick"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "because we're going to run out of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "interceptor missiles. We don't have"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "enough to sustain this over this four to"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "five week period that President Trump"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "talked about. And he says, \"No, no, no."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "That's not the case. No problem at all."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "U, we obviously wouldn't have ordered"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "something like this. Our commander"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "wouldn't have ordered something like"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "this unless he knew we had enough"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "missiles in the stockpile.\" And in any"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "case, we can get some from our allies if"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "we need to. And and I was just thinking,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "look, UAE, according to Bloomberg, has"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "said that they've got about a week left"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "of interceptor missiles and they're"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "going to run out and they're not even"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the primary target. We're seeing, you"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "just showed a video there of the even"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "what we have. It's the these missiles"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "that are coming in from Iran are just"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "going through it like a civ. Uh, and now"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "that we may run out completely and and"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "then that's that's something I think you"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "and I have talked about before. We had a"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "limited number of interceptor missiles"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "because we've given so many to Israel"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "over the last two and a half years and"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "to Ukraine over the previous four years"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "and our inventory was already low. This"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "is why I have been warning so"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "emphatically for so long that these wars"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "are making our own national security"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "less uh vulner more vulnerable and"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "putting us at higher risk. And now"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "you're seeing it play out before your"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "eyes. But it could get a lot worse"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "because now then there's nowhere else to"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "get missiles from and and we can't make"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "them fast enough. And if we keep going"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "on with this fiction that we're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "win something here and we use all the"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "rest we have, our entire national"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "security across our global requirements"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "will be put at greater risk. And that is"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "something that should be uh it should"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "never get to that point. Now, some of"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the propaganda is, \"Oh, Europe is"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "mobilizing. Oh, we've got France. We've"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "got Greece.\" They don't have a major"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "army other than NATO funded armies. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "do you think that Iran would be quaking"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "in their boots that uhoh, here comes"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Greece?"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm thinking that the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "mighty Greece armed forces is not"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "exactly going to cause a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "trepidation in Thran when the US and"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Israeli armed forces together are not"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "causing them to quake. Look, this"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "onslaught is is a tremendous amount of"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "combat power. And for all the videos you"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "were showing there in Tel Aviv, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "just as many in in Tan and some of the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "other cities in K and and in several"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "other places throughout the country."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "They are getting just pummeled and"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "hammered because a lot of our stuff's"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "getting through as well. But the fact is"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "they knew this was coming and they have"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "calculated and they they signal this"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "ahead of time that they felt that is"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "less risky to have a war with the United"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "States and Israel than it was to submit"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "again because otherwise it was going to"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "eventually get to that point to where"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "they would be destroyed anyway. And so"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "they said, \"Look, we're going to hit you"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "back in the face and we're going to give"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "you a bloody nose. We're going to give"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "you a broken arm.\" And so far that's"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "exactly what they're doing. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "question is this is all about missiles."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "It's not going to be about anybody's"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "army or any ground force. There's no"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "army involved here. This is all about"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "missile forces and air defense missile"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "forces. And it's a matter of who's got"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the most resources. And right now, I"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "don't think we have enough air defense"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "missiles. And I think that Iran does"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "have enough offensive missiles to at"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "least drag this out for multiple months"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "longer than we can. This is probably not"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "going to go like the Russia Ukraine war"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "where it can go on for years. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "probably something that could go on for"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "weeks or many months potentially. And if"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "it does, we're in a world of hurt"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "because we can't drag it out that long,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "especially if they completely shut off"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "the straight of Hormuz and they have it"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "partially shut off now. The whole"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Western economy is going to be in a"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "world of hurt."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> Um former Supreme Allied Commander of"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "NATO,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Admiral James uh Stavitus, am I saying"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that correctly? uh says, \"As both the US"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "and Israel expend hundreds of precision"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "weapons from uh JDAMs to tomahawks to"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "patriots, it is time to start focusing"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "on logistics. How deep are the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "stockpiles?\" In wars, the true"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "professionals are ultimately the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "logisticians."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Do you agree with that?"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, it's time to start"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "focusing on logistics, right? Look,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Clayton, this should have been done way"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "back in the planning stage. The when the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "first day you ever got together in the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "the the tank or wherever they did this"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "in the Pentagon or wherever. That should"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "have been job number one. You should"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "have had all these charges said, \"All"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "right, here's how much our inventories"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "we have, the the classified numbers."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Here's what we think it would take to"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "accomplish the objectives, the political"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "objectives that the president wants, and"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "here's how much time we think it would"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "take to get that.\" And then you say, \"Do"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "the ways and the means match? Can we get"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "this done?\" The answer would clearly"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "have been no because the only way it's a"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "yes and it looks to me like this is what"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "we are literally gambling everything on."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "You think that you've bought into the"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "rhetoric that they were saying before"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "this that the Iranian regime is like a"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "house of cards. It's never been weaker"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "than it whole 47 years than it is right"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "now. So you go and you throw a few"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "missiles down, they collapse, they fall,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "game over and yay, we win. We come out"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "easy victory. That's I think the only"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "way that you could say that we're going"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "to take this action here because if they"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "did the normal thing which is to not"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "collapse because with no threat of a"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "ground force like there was in Iraq in"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "2003 then the only thing you have is"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "missiles and we clearly did not have"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "enough offensive missiles in a country"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "four times bigger than the country of of"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "Iraq to bomb them into the stone age."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Just consider consider this so important"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "here. The tiny little Gaza strip that"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Israel had complete mastery over for 2"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "and 1/2 years have literally turned it"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "into a moonscape and they still have not"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "sub brought into submission the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Palestinian people and Hamas even even"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Hamas in this tiny little enclave. Now"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "imagine in a country the size of Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "that you're going to expect them to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "collapse overnight when almost nobody"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "else does that in history. The Houthies"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "didn't do it. Hamas didn't do it."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Hezbollah didn't even do it. Even with"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "all the damage they've caused. And you"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "think that Iran is going to do that. And"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "yet we have gambled everything. And now"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "we're on a course to where we are using"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "all these J&Ms or these precision"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "munitions, the air defense missiles, and"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "there's no path to get out now. So this"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "is a huge blunder of of enormous"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "proportions."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "about two weeks ago, it was reported"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "that General Dan Kaine reported to the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "president that we don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "ammunition to win this war. It would not"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "be pretty. We probably would not. And"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "then President Trump took to his truth"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "social and said, \"Oh, no, no, no, no. If"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "we do it, it will be easily won.\" He"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "promised easily won. And now here we are"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "and it looks like we General Kaine was"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "probably right. He there were adults in"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "the room who knew our capabilities. You"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "know, they had assured us there would be"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "no ground troops. Now, President Trump"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "is saying there may be ground troops if"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "if that's necessary. I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "even know what the entry point would be"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "in Iran. You're saying ground troops"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "would not really do very much."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "So, speak to the fact that this is not"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "easily won and anyone who believed that"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "is a jerk. Could I also maybe just"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "follow up with that, Colonel? Is that"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "also to what you just said, an admission"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "to use ground troops is an admission"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that we don't have the missiles to"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "sustain the mission."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Inadvertently, that's exactly what it"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "is. And you know, and I wondered at the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "minute uh you you brought up that issue"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "about Trump's true social after the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "reports were that General Kaine said"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "that there was some enormous risk"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "involved here and Trump came out and"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "said, \"No, that's not what he said at"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "all. Fake news.\" Actually, he said he"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "said this is what Trump he quoted Kane."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "He said we would win easily. Not that"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Trump said it. He claimed that that's"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "what the general said. And I noticed and"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "looked very carefully for it. It was not"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "rebutted anywhere. General Kaine never"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "came out and said he didn't say that."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "And I was thinking at the time, I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "like, I'm wondering how this is going to"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "play out in history. This is before the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "attack. Because if it goes the way I"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "think it's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "refute that, then now then you're going"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "out there and you're you're letting the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "president mischaracterize something. and"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "you said and you're going going forward."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "So, do you have the integrity to stand"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "up and say, \"No, that's not what I said."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "I did not say it was going to be easy.\""}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Because right now it looks like you're"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "conf concurring with him. So, now you're"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "allowing by your silence for people to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "believe that, oh, well, that is what he"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "said then because the president said it"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "and he didn't contradict it."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> And so, now if you have the chairman of"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the Joint Chiefs of Staff that told the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "president this is going to be easy, then"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you got the wrong guy in that job. And"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "if he didn't say that and if he believed"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that otherwise and yet he stayed silent"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "and continued going on, you still have a"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "problem because at some point somebody's"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "got to stand up and say, \"No, you're"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "given a political objective that we"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "don't have the military capacity to"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "accomplish. And if we try to get this"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "accomplishment where it's impossible to"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "succeed or improbable, then we will cost"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "ourselves tremendously.\" We're already"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "seeing that play out now. God help us if"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "this continues on, if it even goes to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "this four-week part, because we have"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "already suffered so much loss, not just"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "in the number of troops, but in our"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "credibility and reputation among our"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "friends and allies."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> Now, I want to tell you about today's"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "show sponsor, because depression is"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "brutal, and for a lot of people, the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "standard options just don't work. 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Otai"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Beckley is a clinical stage biotech"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "which is developing new research-driven"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "treatments for mental health disorders."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "And their lead program is called"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "BPL-00003."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "And here's their ticker on your screen."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "It's ATAI. It's available on the NASDAQ."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "And the team behind the company made me"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "interested because one of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "factors I look at when evaluating"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "investments is the team and the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "investors behind a company. That's what"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "initially drew my attention to ATAI"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "founded by billionaire Christian"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Angermmy and backed by early investors"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "like Michael Novagrats through Galaxy"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Digital and Steve Jervson of Future"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Ventures. 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So BPL-00003"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "is an investigational psychedelic based"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "therapy designed for a controlled"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "clinical setting with one big goal. Help"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "the brain reset out of rigid negative"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "loops that traditional daily"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "anti-depressants often fail to break."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "What's different here is the treatment"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "experience. A lot of psychedelic"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "therapies can require long resourceheavy"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "monitoring sessions, 6 to 8 hours. 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Do your own due diligence."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "I will have links in the description"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "So Tucker Carlson just released his"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "statement on the war with Iran and he"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "was really the only voice going to"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Washington DC in the few days before"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "this war broke out meeting with"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "President Trump as he did and he"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "implored him to not carry out this war."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "There of course are supporters of"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Tucker's position JD Vance and others"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "within the administration Tulsi Gabbard"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "but it seems like the president did not"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "heed his warning. So been wait I've been"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "waiting to see what Tucker was going to"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "say about this. So he just released this"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "video and I want to go ahead and play it"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "and watch it with you. So whenever"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "something big happens, particularly"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "something really big like a war that"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "will change world history, the first"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "four questions you have to ask are"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "these. One, why did this happen? Two,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "what was the point of it? Three, where"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "does it go from here? And four, how do"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "we respond?"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "So, let's assess the war in Iran now"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "ongoing in its second day and try to"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "answer those four questions. First, why"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "did this happen? Now, in this case,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "there's a really simple answer. This"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "happened because Israel wanted it to"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "happen. This is Israel's war. 100%. This"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "is not our war."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "This is Israel's wet dream. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "remember, go back to 2002."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Go back to 2002. Dennis Cusinich in"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Congress. Netanyahu sitting across from"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "him. And Cusinis asks him as he's trying"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "to sell us the Iraq war. Netanyahu was,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "\"Any other things we need to pay"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "attention to that you want us to pay"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "attention to?\" And he tells him"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "explicitly about Iran. Iran is next. So"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "yeah, do Iraq first. We want Iraq."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "But then next, please do Iran. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "the next piece."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> This is not the United States's war."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "This war is not being waged on behalf of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "American national security objectives to"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "make the United States safer or richer."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "This war is not actually even about"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "weapons of mass destruction, nukes,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "kambio. No, this war is waged purely"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "because Israel wanted it to be waged."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Now, why say that out loud this early in"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the conflict? Isn't that dispiritating"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "for say American troops fighting this"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "war? Yes, it is. And we thought a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "about whether it was wise or decent even"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "to say something like that out loud and"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "have decided that it is for the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "following reason. First, because the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "truth is always the only basis for wise"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "decision-making. When you lie to"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "yourself or you lie to your people, you"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "not only commit well a kind of moral"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "crime by lying, but you also tend to"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "hurt yourself."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Hubris is the product of lies. For"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "example, you get way over your skis if"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "you're not honest with yourself and the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "people around you about what's happening"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "and why."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> By the way, I should point out that"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "there were a number of generals who"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "spoke out and said, \"We're not equipped"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "for this. We don't have the military"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "capacity to carry out this war. We don't"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "have enough missiles.\" These people, of"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "course, were fired recently."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Um, they were being honest. They were"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "being truthful, but it didn't matter in"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "the end because that that truth is not"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "the truth they wanted to hear."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "So when Pete Hixth gets up there at the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "podium"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "and lies right to the American people"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "that you you know this is not going to"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "be a protracted war. How do you how do"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "you know actually this is not going to"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "be a protracted war"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "and you're not listening to the people"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "that you hired to tell you the truth? So"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "then you're telling the president of the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "United States untruths."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "You're telling him what you think he"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "wants to hear instead of the truth."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Colonel McGregor on our show made that"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "point."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "So these people are lying"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "and the president then is not getting"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "accurate information because he's being"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "lied to about our capacity to carry out"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "this war. That's the truth. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "But long-term that is also true. In"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "other words, it's important to say why"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "this war is happening because 50 years"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "from now, people may not know. Your"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "grandkids may learn that this war"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "started because the Ayatollah showed up"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "in Miami and started machine guning"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "people in a shopping mall. And so we"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "responded there was a kind of Iranian"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Pearl Harbor. You don't know what the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "future will believe about the present."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "You don't know how history will be"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "written. And if you're skeptical of"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "that, if you're asking yourself, well,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "how could historians,"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "popular historians, how could future"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "culture so misunderstand something so"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "big? How could people lie about"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "something so obvious, so giant?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Well, history is your guide to a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "the big events we think we understand,"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "including wars from the past and not so"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "distant past, are completely distorted"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "in our memories. In other words, that's"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "not actually what happened at all."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Right? Like Pearl Harbor. We got into"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "World War II because of Pearl Harbor."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "They teach us that in school. Never mind"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the fact that FDR allowed Pearl Harbor"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "to happen on purpose. He knew it was"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "coming and allowed it to happen. Allowed"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "American sailors to be killed as a false"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "flag for us to enter World War II"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "like that. And the truth is, if enough"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "people lie about something at a high"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "enough volume and they do it for long"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "enough, loudly enough, while threatening"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "anyone who refuses to lie about it, over"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "time, their lies become"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "conventional wisdom, everyone believes"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "them. There is something about repeating"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "a lie over and over and over again"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "that's almost like a spell or an"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "incantation. It's almost a form of"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "witchcraft."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "It assumes reality or a version of"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "reality, an Ersat's reality, a fake"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "reality, but reality nevertheless. And"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "if you're interested at all in history"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "going back thousands of years or even"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "more recently, you know that the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "understandings of certain events that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "you grew up hearing about probably"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "totally inverted. the opposite is true."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "But you didn't know that until you dug a"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "little deeper, in some cases a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "deeper to find out because they have"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "been distorted in the retelling. For"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "instance, 60 Minutes yesterday published"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "a tweet that went viral."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "And in that tweet and in their"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "interview, they say that Iran had"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "nuclear weapons, has nuclear weapons."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "60 Minutes published that BS. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "these are the same kinds of things that"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "like people like Mark Levvin and"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "whatever push the lie over and over and"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "over again so the American people just"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "assume that Iran has nuclear weapons and"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "they don't and nor do they want them."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Finally, after like 12 hours of that"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "tweet being up there, finally 60 Minutes"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "deleted the tweet only after millions of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "people saw it. How many people How many"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "people who read that tweet didn't know"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the truth? to Tucker's point"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> and because they have been because a lot"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "of our most basic assumptions are based"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "on untruths"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "we wind up getting into the same messes"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "again and again. So it's just important"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to tell the truth about this now in the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "early stages."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "This is by the way widely known. This is"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "not a conspiracy theory. Everyone's"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "saying it out loud now because it's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "true. The United States committed troops"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "to this conflict"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "because the prime minister of Israel,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "not Israel as a nation, but the guy who"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "runs it, Benjamin Netanyahu, BB,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "demanded it. Seven trips to the White"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "House over the last year. And the point"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "of those trips never varied. The United"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "States needs"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "to commit to regime change in Iran. We"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "need the US military to overthrow the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "government of Iran."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "And BB himself has basically said that"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "that it wasn't that we thought Iran was"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "going to get nukes this week and that's"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "why we did this. Nobody's even saying"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "that now. They will be in the future"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "when our memories get a little dimmer"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "and they can manipulate us more. But"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "right now they're admitting no actually"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "they were not on the verge of getting"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "nukes. BB himself said you can pull up"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the video. I've been dreaming about this"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "for 40 years. We finally done it. And"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "it's worth pointing out Congressman"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Dennis Cusinich who literally face tof"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "face with Netanyahu in 2002 and asked"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "him that question. He he he admitted"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "later he went to the hallway after that"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "hearing and spoke to Netanyahu and he"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "said, \"Why don't you guys carry out this"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "regime change war? Why don't you guys do"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "it?\" And Kusenich said that Netanyahu"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "said to him, \"No, no, we can't do it. It"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "has to be the Americans. You have to do"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "it. You you have to do it.\""}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "So this is the culmination of a longtime"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "plan of a strategy and actually if you"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "look at it backwards and try to assess"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "recent events even in this country in"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "American political life over the past"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "several years certainly over the past 6"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "or 8 months. You can see that a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "what was happening here was preparation"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "for where we are right now. In other"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "words, people who wanted war in Iran"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "were softening up the public for it,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "were manipulating"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the US government in order to affect it,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "and were doing their very best to"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "silence anyone who doubted its wisdom."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "A lot of the things we have seen in the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "recent past"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "are, and now it's very obvious,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "they were all designed to get us to"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "where we are now. war with Iran on"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "behalf of Israel. Now, just a caveat at"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the outset, just because the prime"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "minister of Israel wanted a regime"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "change war with Iran does not mean in"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "any sense that it was a wise idea for"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "Israel. It certainly wasn't a good idea"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "for the United States. That's no one"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "really disputes that. But was it a good"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "idea for the country or for the prime"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "minister who advocated for it? No,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "probably not. Actually, just because we"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "want something doesn't mean it's good"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "for us."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Sometimes when we get what we want most,"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "we're destroyed by it. Hope that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "happen to Israel, of course, or anybody,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "but it could."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "So, when you get to the truth of things"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and you see who's pushing for them, that"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "doesn't mean that person understands his"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "own best interest or his country's own"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "best interest. Often they don't. Often"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "we don't."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "But it doesn't change the fact that we"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "got here because Israel lobbied for it."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "And virtually everyone in the US"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "government, certainly in the Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "understood the risks. The risks were"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "obvious from day one. First, if you"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "knock off a government, we have a long"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "history of doing that. It's not that"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "hard."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "The, you know, individual bravery of the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "US military personnel, the soldiers who"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "do it is laudable, impressive, amazing"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "sometimes."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "But that is, we have learned the easy"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "part. Killing Saddam. Okay, amazing."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "What comes next? Etc., etc. This is all"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "very, very wellnown. And it was very"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "well known 48 hours ago that there was"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "no real plan to replace the government"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "we were hoping to topple. At which"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "point, what? Well, now you have a"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "country, Iran, the size of Western"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "Europe."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> Is it no plan? 82 million people, a"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "country that's, you know, only a little"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "over half Persian that has its own"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "internal divisions and dynamics and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "rivalries. You have that country"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "potentially breaking apart. And what"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "does that mean? Well, I mean, hard to"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "see that as a good thing for the rest of"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "the world on so many levels, which we"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "pray don't become more obvious, but"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "they're even now becoming obvious."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "That could be a true true disaster. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "why would we want that? Well, of course"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "we wouldn't want that. The only country"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "that seems to want that or the only"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "leader, to be fair, once again, not"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "speaking for every Israeli any more than"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Joe Biden or Donald Trump or anybody"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "else who runs this country speaks for"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "every American, of course, but Benjamin"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Netanyahu wanted that. He thought that"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "was his mission, but more than his"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "mission, maybe his destiny. He suggested"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "that in his remarks today"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "that's why. But nobody in the US"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "government who I ever talked to or heard"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "quoted on TV"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "seem to believe that this was primarily"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "in America's interest. There might be"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "ancillary benefits. I mean you hear"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "these analyses of how, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "world is changing and it went from being"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "unipolar to multipolar. All true. You"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "know, the United States ran the world"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "uncontested from the summer of 1991"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "until, I don't know, pick a date, pretty"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "recently, the rise of China. And all of"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "a sudden, you have multi-poles. You have"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "more than one great power vying for"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "control of the world and its trade"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "routes and its resources, etc., etc.,"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "and that somehow knocking off the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "government of Iran would be good for us"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "in that complex chess game. And that's a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "real argument. I guess these things are"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "kind of hard to understand and any wise"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "person looks at the world and says okay"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "there's no stopping the rise of China"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "their manufacturing"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "capacity their economic power is really"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the world's largest real economy"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "is not going to end tomorrow so there"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "has to be a way to strike a kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "power sharing agreement with China with"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the east United States doesn't rule the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "world uncontested and for the"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "foreseeable future is probably not going"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "to. So, how do we live in some semblance"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "of peace and preserve our own interests?"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "And again, you enter into some informal"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "power sharing agreement with the other"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "great power or powers"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "probably can't stop that process. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "probably too late to stop China from"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "controlling the east at this point."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Killing the Ayatollah is probably not"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "going to do it. So, there's probably a"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "better way to do this. But anyway, there"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "there are people who disagree and you"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "know, if we do this, it'll be better for"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "us long term. And at least you have to"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "give them credit for trying to think of"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "a way in which this might benefit the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "United States."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "But most people who assess this knew"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "nothing whatsoever to do with us. This"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "is Israel's war. That's what it is. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "not an attack. It's not an attack on"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Israel, by the way. It's hardly"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "anti-semitism or Jew hatred. It's just"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "it's a fact. Head of state came to our"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "country, a head of state of 9 million"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "people came to a country of 350 million"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "people and demanded that we help them or"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "in effect do it ourselves topple the"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "regime in tan. Now, how did they get the"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "leverage to do this? That's a"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "complicated question and it's something"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "really worth thinking about. But how did"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "this tiny country with no resources and"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "9 million people convince the world's"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "great superpower with the greatest"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "military in history to do its bidding in"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "a way that was going to hurt it? Hm."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Well, again, many layers to that"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "question, but the most obvious and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "immediate answer is because BB told the"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "president of the United States, you can"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "join me or not, but I'm going. And the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, said"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "this in a call to congressional leaders"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "yesterday. He said, Israel said they"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "were going. And at that point, you"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "really only have two choices."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "you can get on board"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "and try and help or contain Israel's"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "war. That's part of the calculation"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "here. Israel's going. Let's try and keep"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "this within bounds. Let's try to be a"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "moderating force on this adventure,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "whatever it turns out to be. Or"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "you can tell Israel no,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "and they'll just do it. And if they did"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "it, that would not protect us because"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "there are hundreds of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Americans in the Middle East, both in"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "uniform and out, civilians and military"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "personnel. And there are also the"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "world's most important"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "oil projects, oil energy infrastructure,"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "oil and gas,"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "which has more than any other factor a"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "determining effect on the global"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "economy. So everybody needs their oil"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "and gas, period. And you can't change"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "that. Sorry."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "And so if that infrastructure is damaged"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "or destroyed, it affects all of us, all"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "of us, everybody, but us."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "So, um, you can't just let Israel go and"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "do this. Now, of course, there's a third"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "potential theoretical option, which you"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "you say to Israel, which is a client"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "state, which we pay for, whose creation"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "we made possible."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "You say, \"No, we're not doing that. I"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "get it. You don't like Ayatollah. You"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "don't like Iran."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "But this is bad for us and we're not"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "going to let you do this and if you do"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "it we're going to I don't know what cut"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "off aid something. We can apply the"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "pressure that is inherently ours to"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "apply since we're paying for all of"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "But that was not even on the table."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "That's never been on the table. No one"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "has ever in the last 63 years considered"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "doing that really. The last president to"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "do that was John F. Kennedy in 1962 when"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "he got in a not as famous as it should"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "be dispute with the founding prime"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "minister of Israel then the prime"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "minister of Israel David Bengorian over"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Israel's nuclear program at Deona"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "and then President Kennedy said no I"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "don't believe in nuclear proliferation"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "this is one of the pillars of my"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "administration and you can't keep"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "testing and I'm demanding inspections"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "and of course he was not able uh to make"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "good on those promises because he was"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "killed in November of 1963 and the"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "person who took his place as vice"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "President Lyndon Johnson uh gave a green"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "light to the Israeli nuclear program. So"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that was the last time an American"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "president said no, a hard no to Israel,"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "tried to restrain its core ambitions."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Not"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> and it should point out that Apollo"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "Pennsylvania,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "Israel stole"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "all sorts of nuclear material and"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "secrets from Apollo, Pennsylvania"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "and stole it and took it to Israel and"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "no one did anything about it. The people"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "of Apollo, Pennsylvania are still very"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "aware of how the Israelis stole our"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "nuclear power uh nuclear materials and"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "secrets. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": ">> like be nice to the Palestinians in the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "West Bank, but no, you can't have nukes"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "or no, you can't, I don't know, bomb"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Lebanon or whatever. That was the last"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "time. So, that's not for some reason"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "even on the table. So the the choice was"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "do you go along with what Israel is"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "doing, try to constrain it, or do you"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "just sit back and then inevitably get"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "drawn into it. So the truth is, and this"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "is hard to say, um, as a proud American"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "and as someone who wants the United"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "States to remain powerful in the world,"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "a force for decency and order in the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "world, but above all wants America to"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "remain prosperous and peaceful at home"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "in the country that we actually live in."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "It's hard to say this, but the United"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "States didn't make the decision here."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Benjamin Netanyahu did. And again, it's"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "important to say that not to discourage"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "anybody or make anybody feel despondent"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "or hopeless. There's no reason for"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "hopelessness at this point. But"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "in order that it doesn't happen again,"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "tell the truth so people can learn,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "hopefully improve and grow. Um,"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "but tell the truth no matter what."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "So then the question becomes, we know"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "why it started. It started because"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "Israel wanted it and demanded the US"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "military in order to do it. Why would"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "Israel want this?"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "We've already established that this may"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "or may not be a good idea for Israel,"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "but why would they want it? What was"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "their thinking here? If it was really"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "the threat of Iran building and"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "deploying a nuclear weapon or a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "tipped ICBM aimed at Miami and New York,"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "as Mark Levvin told his poor listeners"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "the other day, none of that's true."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> None of it's true, of course."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> But if it was really about that, how"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "could this threat have lasted for 40"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "years? How could, as Benjamin Netanyahu"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "said yesterday, how could Iran's nuclear"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "program been on the very verge, the cusp"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "of building and deploying a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "weapon for 40 years? Well, of course, it"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "wasn't. What we can argue about Iran's"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "aims with nuclear weapons. They probably"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "wanted one. Who wouldn't want one? Look"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "at what happens to countries that don't"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "have one. Everyone wants a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "weapon. But were they actually about to"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "get one? No."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "And by the way, this is probably the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "catalyst now, right? We spoke to Colonel"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Daniel Davis who said, you know, for"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "those countries who were sort of sitting"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "on the sidelines deciding whether or not"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "they actually wanted to get a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "weapon or not."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "This pushes them in that direction"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "because look what happens to countries"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that don't have a nuclear weapon. They"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "get bombed."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "So how many more countries will now say,"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "you know what, we're going to prioritize"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "getting nukes to protect ourselves"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "against the imperialists. So what was"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "the point? What is the point of this"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "from Israel's perspective? Well, the"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "point is regional hegemony. Super"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "simple."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Israel has been around for almost 80"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "years. Israel has nuclear weapons."}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Israel's got a pretty robust tech"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "economy. But above all, Israel has big"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "ambitions. And by the way, it's not an"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "attack on Israel. Which growing country"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "doesn't have greater ambitions? in which"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "megalomaniacal leader of said country"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "and there are many of those around the"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "world by the way wouldn't want regional"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "hegemony regional hegemony means you get"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "to control your region kind of a Middle"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "Eastern Monroe doctrine Israel wants to"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "be able to determine roughly speaking"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "what happens in its region and it"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "doesn't want constraints on its own"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "behavior in the same way again trying to"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "be as generous and universally minded as"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "possible here in this analysis because"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "it's True."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Who wouldn't want that? Do we want that?"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "Of course we do. We're not, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "put up with a lot from Mexico and"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "Canada, but if they all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "started constraining our actual"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "ambitions,"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "we'd do something about it, I think, or"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "the old America would have. A normal"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "country would. And Israel wants to"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "control the Middle East. And they're the"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "only announced nuclear power in the"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Middle East. Are they the only actual"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "nuclear power in the Middle East?"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "You could debate that."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "people can guess, but they're the only"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "country we know for certain has a big"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "nuclear arsenal. So, they want to be"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "unrivaled in their power in their"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "region. Again, this is not a conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "theory or something weird to want. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "what every country wants and they want"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "it and BB wants it. And he sees himself"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "as a figure out of history, not simply"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "as a prime minister who's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "fighting to keep his job, which he also"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "is, but as as a great man, as a modern"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "Moses or whatever,"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "as a as a figure. And men like that, men"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "of destiny,"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "change the calculation for their nation"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "forever. They don't take small steps,"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "they take big steps. They think big. He"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "thinks big to his credit or detriment,"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "but it's a fact."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "And so this war is an effort"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "not not simply in in addition to"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "everything else. No no it is exclusively"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "an effort on the part of Israel to"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "achieve regional hegemony total control."}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "So what does that mean exactly? Well it"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "means you have to sweep away your"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "enemies. And in the case of Iran, Iran"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "was an enemy of is Israel by the way."}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "And Iran was also funding"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "insurgencies and militant groups in the"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "region to kind of pick at Israel and"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "hassle Israel, kill Israelis. That's all"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "true. Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran funded,"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "absolutely. Houthis Iran funed."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "Absolutely. Iran was doing that. That's"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "true. And Israel didn't like it. Why"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "would they?"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "But it's also true that"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "and this is not to be excusive for"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "anybody but these are all dynamics. You"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "know one country does one thing another"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "country does another thing. I mean like"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "a marriage"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "no party's wholly responsible for what"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "went wrong or what went well. This is a"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "relationship and people act against each"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "other with each other but always on each"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "other. Each action provokes a reaction."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "And so this history goes back a long way"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "and historians can untangle it. a few"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "honest ones left. But if you want to"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "control the Middle East and you're"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Israel, you have to decapitate Iran. You"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "don't have to rebuild it. Probably don't"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "even want to. It's too big. It has too"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "much mineral wealth, has too much"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "energy, that huge gas field they share"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "with Qar, etc., etc. You probably just"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "want to decapitate it and make it"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "helpless. You want to turn it into a"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "hellscape"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "because it's better for you because you"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "can dominate"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "a hellscape."}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "Now, that may cause massive downstream"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "problems for everybody else. You could"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "have like a refugee crisis in Europe."}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "Well, oh, that already happened when"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "Israel destabilized Syria."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "You could have this open bleeding wound."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "Oh, that already happened when Israel"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "destabilized Lebanon. When Israel pushed"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "the United States to kill Gaddafi in"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Libya. This is an ongoing thing and Iraq"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "biggest and the final,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:04", "text": ">> So getting rid of the Iranian government"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "had one purpose to give Israel the"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "ability to do exactly what it wants in"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "the Middle East without getting hassled."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "And what it wants among other things is"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "territorial expansion. Small country."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "They want parts of Libya rather, excuse"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "me, they want parts of Syria, parts of"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "Lebanon. They're an expansionist power"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "like most powers actually. Let's"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "demystify this. It's not about the Jews."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "It's about a nation state that is"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "growing and trying to exert its power."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "It's that simple. You can take all the"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "spooky stuff out and just see it in"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "terms of conventional geopolitics and it"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "makes total sense."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "And part of the reason we can't see this"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "clearly is because we've been so"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "propagandized in the United States to"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "see every contest between nations as a"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "moral contest in which we somehow have"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "to pick a side and somebody's Churchill"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "and somebody's Neville Chamberlain and"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "somebody's Hitler and this absurd"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "template which narrows our vision and"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "prevents us from seeing that this is"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "just what's always happened which is a"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "contest between powers for primacy."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": ">> Right? So if it's just focused on the"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Jews and anti-semitism, forgetting the"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "fact that Israel really has very little"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "resources in the ways of exports around"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "the world,"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "they have spy software that they sell,"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "right? But they don't have massive"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "troves of oil and gas, natural gas. But"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "who did? Well, the Palestinians did"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "right off their coast. So trillions of"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "dollars worth of natural gas, right? So"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "they should that's why they have to kill"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "so many Palestinians in order to get"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "that natural gas and Iran is of course"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "sitting on massive massive oil fields"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "right so to exert yourself in that way"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "to expand your power your hemisphere"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "your sphere of influence and to take"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "over those resources right otherwise"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Israel really can't sustain itself"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "without all of this aid from the United"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "States and other countries"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "that's at the heart of"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "But there's another"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "actually two other components, two other"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "speed bumps on the way to regional"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "dominance for Israel."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "The first is something called the GCC."}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "The GCC is a an informal alliance, maybe"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "a little more formal as of today, but uh"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "it's the six Gulf monarchies. It's the"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "energy producing Gulf states and those"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "would be Bahrain, Oman,"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "Kuwait, UAE, Qatar, and Saudi. And these"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "are some of the biggest most important"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "energy producers in the world. They're"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "all Sunni Arab states. They are all rich"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "and all of a sudden they are all now"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "internationally or some of them are"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "internationally influential because they"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "are the site of global diplomacy."}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "They are filling the void left by"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "Switzerland, which not to get too boring"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "about it, but basically took sides"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "in the Russia Ukraine conflict and is"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "therefore kind of not really a place"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "where people can negotiate in good"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "faith. They are in a fact controlled uh"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "by the EU and NATO. They would never"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "admit that the Swiss, but they are. They"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "give up their banking secrecy. They're"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "basically not non-aligned anymore. But"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "some of these Gulf states are as close"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "to non-aligned as you can possibly get."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Certainly Qatar is and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "every conflict around the world is being"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "negotiated in Qatar or most recently in"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "Oman. And so they have a kind of moral"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "authority on the global stage, right?"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "They have very effective diplomacy."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "People like them. People also go there"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "on vacation. They have the best airlines"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "in the world. They are the obvious"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "regional travel travel hub for the"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "globe. They're literally where east"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "meets west. So if you're flying from New"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "York to Delhi, you're going to stop in"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "Dubai. And they have government"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "subsidized airlines that are absolutely"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "fantastic. So people have a familiarity,"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "a firsthand familiarity with these"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "countries, which were mysteries to most"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "Westerners 25 years ago. When 911"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "happened, was the first time I went to"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "the Gulf. Most Americans had never been"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "there. Unless you were in the oil"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "business or something, you never been"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "there. And so you could imagine that it"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "was all belly dancers and camels and"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "slavery or whatever you thought. But all"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "of a sudden, you know, like every other"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "rich person in America has been to Dubai"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "cuz they're all traveling somewhere."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "They're going in safari in Africa. So"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "people they it's been demystified to the"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "west and people like it."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "These are societies with problems of"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "course,"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "but they're also orderly and clean and"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "elaborately polite and welcoming to"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "outsiders and rich"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "and kind of a little less gaudy than you"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "would expect. They're actually some of"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "the most functional societies in the"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "world and people like them despite a lot"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "of propaganda and by the way despite"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "some complications. There are plenty of"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "things about the Gulf States that"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "Westerners"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "won't like and or some things anyway and"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "certainly parts of their foreign policy"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "that make you wonder."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "But these are not North Korea. They're"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "the opposite. These are actually very"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "civilized countries"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "and they're not all on board with"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "Israel's programs because they've got"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "populations that disagree with how"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Israel has treated the Palestinians. In"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "the case of Saudi Arabia, they have"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "Mecca and Medina, the two holiest places"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "in Islam."}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "Every Muslim who can is required to go"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "to Saudi Arabia on the Hajj on to go"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "visit Mecca."}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "So these are countries with inherent"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "power in the Islamic world, growing"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "power globally and resources."}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "And so they can't be ignored. And if"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "they were ever to get together, if these"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "six countries were ever to form, say"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "like a real military alliance, they"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "would be a massive threat to Israel. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "Israel has spent decades fermenting"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "dissent between them, of course. And"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "that's not necessarily just an attack on"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "Israel. I mean, as anyone can tell you"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "who spent time in the Middle East, the"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "Arabs, many great qualities, but love to"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "fight with each other. It's like their"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "favorite hobby"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "more than camel racing. Like, they it's"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "very easy to get Arab nations bickering"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "and fighting. And the distrust goes back"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "a long time and it's impenetrable to the"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "outsider. But if you were trying to"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "divide six countries from each other,"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "it's not that hard. And the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "have worked really, really hard to do"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "But the truth is, if you really want"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "control of the Middle East, you kind of"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "have to degrade, if not destroy the Gulf"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "States. And so the Israelis knew, and"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "the Americans knew as well, maybe not"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "quite"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "quite as realistic an assessment, but"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "they had some sense. The Israelis"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "definitely knew that if you start"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "lobbing missiles into Iran and if you"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "start killing the leadership of Iran and"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "if you were to say kill the head of"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "state slash"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "religious leader of one branch of Islam,"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "the Ayatollah,"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "if you were to do that, it would provoke"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "a military response that would hurt the"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "Gulf badly"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "and that it would in some countries like"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "Bahrain"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "sight of the fifth fleet, you could"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "potentially stoke like a true revolution"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "because that country is almost I think"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "have Shiite. So you could cause massive"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "chaos in the Gulf if you were to do"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "this. Now that wasn't a risk from the"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "Israeli standpoint. That was the point."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "That was the point."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "They wanted to diminish the Gulf and in"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "two days they have. And I think anyone"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "who likes decency and order and"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "cleanliness is hoping that the Gulf will"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "recover. The Gulf is not a threat to us."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "We have military bases in these"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "countries. These are some of our closest"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "allies. All of them are closer allies"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "than Israel by far."}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "They're our friends."}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "Um but they've been really hurt. And in"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "a place like Dubai, which is basically"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "it's part of a country. It's an emirate"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "within the United Arab Emirates, but"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "it's also a it's a luxury brand."}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "Basically, people go to Dubai because"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "it's beautiful and rich and clean and"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "above all because it's safe and orderly."}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "It's got the busiest airport in the"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "You start seeing video on Instagram of"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "smoke in the Dubai airport and you're"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "like, I think I'm going to Cabo this"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "year. Oh, sorry, drug cartels. Whatever."}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "Maybe you go to Sedona this year. It"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "really really hurts these countries and"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "Israel wanted to hurt these countries."}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "That's the point. Wanted to hurt these"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "countries. Wanted to seow chaos and"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "disorder because they are rivals of"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "Israel. So it's probably not hasn't been"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "reported, but it's a fact that last"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "night"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, authorities"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "arrested MSAD agents planning on"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "committing bombings in those countries."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "Now that's weird."}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "Wait,"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "what?"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "And I missed that. I didn't miss,"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "however, that the Saudi Arabian oil"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "field that was attacked today, Iran"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "says, \"Yeah, we bombed all these other"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "spots, American bases and so forth. We"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "did not hit, we did not bomb the Saudi"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "Arabian oil fields. That wasn't us. That"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "was Israel that carried that out.\" Oh,"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "shocking."}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": ">> It doesn't make any sense. Why would the"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "Israelis"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "be committing bombings in two Gulf"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "countries which are also being attacked"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "by Iran? Aren't they on the same side?"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "No. No. Israel wants to hurt Iran and"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "Qatar and UAE and Saudi and Bahrain and"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "Oman and Kuwait."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "And they've succeeded."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "And the third thing you would have to do"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "if you wanted true control over the"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "region, which as as we've established,"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "Israel wants"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "and shouldn't be attacked for wanting."}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "It's a natural thing to want."}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "But the final thing you'd have to do is"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "get the US out of the Middle East."}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "Since 1948, the United States from Harry"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "Truman until present, US presidents and"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "as noted with diminishing success, but"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "have tried to constrain or shape"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "Israel's policies,"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "its foreign policy,"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "and we have a right to do that because"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "we're the most powerful country in the"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "world and have been since 1945. And also"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "because we we pay for it. You know,"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "Israel couldn't exist without us right"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "now. And we give them the defense"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "umbrella."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "We defend them in their wars. And so why"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "would you want the United States out?"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "Well, because"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "the United States, while not doing a"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "very good job of constraining Israel,"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "has been issuing requests in any case to"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "Israel for a long time. And that's very"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "annoying. Imagine if we were getting the"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "same kind of communicates from, I don't"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "know, Ottawa and they were like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "can't do this, you can't do that.\" We'd"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "say, \"Buzz off at a certain point. Back"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "off Canada. We're doing what we want."}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "We're a great power.\" So you have to get"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "the United States out."}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "And this war is designed to do it"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "because the Israelis who are very well"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "aware of domestic American politics know"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "that there is no appetite whatsoever for"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "casualties"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "among the American public. That this war"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "did not have anything approaching"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "majority support. In fact, it had small"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "minority support and that's shrunk even"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "in 36 hours. and that this would cause a"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "political crisis in the United States"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "and that it would most critically"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "convince our Arab allies in the region,"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "meaning really the Gulf States and"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "Jordan. Poor Jordan, wonderful country."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "It would convince them that the United"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "States is a bad ally. Why? Because the"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "second you hit Iran, and the Persians"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "are not stupid at all, you know that"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "they're going to hit American bases in"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "those countries, which they have, except"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "Oman,"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "but in the other six, they have."}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "And you know, those countries are not"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "going to be defended by the United"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "States, and they haven't been"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "very well."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "Some of these countries are on fire"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "right now and they feel completely"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "vulnerable and they are low are not"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "letting loose with any operational"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "secret that you can't find on the"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "internet. They're running low on missile"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "defense. And so a country like Saudi or"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "UAE or Qatar,"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "Bahrain or Kuwait, I mean they're all"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "right on the Gulf directly across from"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "Iran. They live on their energy"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "production and that's being damaged and"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "no one's protecting them."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "A Saudi Aramco facility went up last"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "night. Saudi Aramco being the, you know,"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "longtime joint US Saudi energy"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "production company, biggest oil company"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "in the world"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "and part of it's on fire today"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:16", "text": ">> that Israel"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": ">> Iranians said they didn't do it. Why"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "would they say they didn't do it? But"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "possible Israel did it. Why wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "they? They said Israel did it."}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:29", "text": ">> Because if you think about it, scaring"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "our other allies in the region, letting"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "them know that they can get attacked and"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "the US will not defend you. You put up"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "with all this crap for decades because"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "you got American troops on your soil and"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "your population doesn't like it, but you"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "do it anyway because you've been told if"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "there was ever a problem, the US will"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "come rescue you. Well, guess what? We"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "just learned the US is not coming to"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "rescue you."}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "There are hundreds of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "Americans, civilians, caught in the"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "Middle East tonight. They can't get out."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "And the governments of those countries"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "are panicked and they're enraged. And"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "the message to them is the US is not a"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "reliable partner. What's the point of"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "this partnership? What's the point of"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "allowing you to have an air base in my"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "country if when missiles come raining"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "down or drones attack our airport, our"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "international airport? You're not going"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "to do anything about it. That's how they"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "feel. And you can understand why they"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "do. So what's his message to them?"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "There's no upside"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "in dealing with the United States."}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "There's no upside in foreign investment"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "in the United States."}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "You go to any of these countries, you go"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "to the airport, go to a restaurant. Who"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "do you run to? American businessmen."}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "And some of them have good ideas. Some"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "of them have ideas that are so stupid"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "that they couldn't sell them in Silicon"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "Valley. They couldn't go to VCs in the"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "United States and raise the money. So"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "they go to the Gulf. And it's not that"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "the Gulf Arabs are dumb."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "In some sense, they're doing this"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "because they see the United States as"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "their only real ally. And so they're"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "investing in American business ventures"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "a lot."}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "Hundreds of billions of dollars. And"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "part of that is economic calculation."}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "and they think these companies are going"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "to grow and they're going to make money."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "Part of it is friendship. You're our"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "ally and have been all these years since"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "the British left."}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "What do they think now? Well, they don't"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "feel that way quite as much because for"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "them this is very serious."}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "I mean, these countries don't grow their"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "own food."}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "So, if you close the airport and the"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "Persian Gulf and the Red Sea"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "are closed in effect, where do you get"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "your food?"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:37", "text": ">> Yeah. that that's a real issue. These"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "are countries that are supplied by in"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "some cases desal desalinization plants"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "pulling seawater through a membrane and"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "then piping it to the urban centers."}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "What happens if those pipes get blown"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "up? You have no water. There's millions"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "and millions of people. You can see"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "without getting too into it just how"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "vulnerable these countries, our"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "strongest allies in the region now feel"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "and how their calculation about the"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "United States in the region has changed"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "dramatically."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "The British lost their influence in the"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "Middle East in 1956 and what is known as"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "the Suez crisis. It was a crisis that"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "was so complex it's hard even to"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "understand it now"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "70 years later."}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "But the net effect was the UK was not"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "able to restore order in the region."}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "They had less power than people thought"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "they did. And that was it. That was the"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "true end of Britain's empire. It was"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "certainly the end of its control over"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "the Middle East. That's what this is."}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "And it's on purpose. They did this. The"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "Israelis want us out. And they did this"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "on purpose."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "And then as a last sort of footnote,"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "there's another big loser"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "in this war, in Israel's war, and this"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "was obvious years ago, and that's"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "Europe."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "Europe."}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Because Europe is about to be"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "inundated with refugees if this"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "continues."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> Who cares about Europe? Well, the"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "neocons care about Europe for reasons"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "that are not entirely clear."}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "But you often hear the neocons, the war"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "hawks, chills for Israel, whatever you"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "call them, but people who supported what"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "we're seeing now. And they're mad at the"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "Shiites and the Ayatollah and the Arabs"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "and, you know, of course, got it. But if"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "you listen carefully, there is a deep"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "hostility, hatred, in fact, toward"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "Western Europe. Now, where does that"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "come from? Someone should think deeply"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "about this because it's had a big effect"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "over the past 80 years. Doesn't even"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "matter where it comes from. They hate"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "Western Europe."}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "And maybe the biggest loser of all right"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "now is Western Europe."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "So last night, Qatar shut down its LG"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "exports. LG is liqufied natural gas."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "Without getting boring about it, LG is"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "essential to the global economy. It's"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "essential to Asia, South Korea subsists"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "on Qatari LG exports. China is a huge"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "consumer of them and Western Europe,"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "Britain. 40% of homes in Britain are"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "powered by Qatari LG."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:29", "text": ">> I didn't know that. Wow."}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> Lots of reasons for this. We blew up the"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "Nordstream pipeline is one of them. But"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "it doesn't matter. That's the truth. So"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "when you shut off"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "natural gas from Qar and it's now shut"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "down. It's 20% of the world's total"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "supply is shut down. Well, you all kinds"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "of effects on that. It crushes markets."}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "It hikes inflation. It can wreak havoc"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "on the global economy. Say a prayer that"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "it doesn't, but it could. But the first"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "thing that it does is totally shafts"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "Europe."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "And then here's the second order effect."}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "Refugee crisis."}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "Let's say that this operation achieves"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "its only real stated aim, which is to"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "decapitate the government of Iran."}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "Doesn't seem to have happened yet. I"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "mean, who knows what's actually going"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "on, but the Ayatollah was killed."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "Government's still sending missiles, so"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "someone's making decisions. But let's"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "say over the course of however long this"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "takes, chaos"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "becomes the state of play in Iran. The"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "thing just falls apart. Just chaos. just"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "a huge chaotic country with no one in"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "charge and lots of different ethnic"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "groups and religious splinter groups"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "fighting with each other heavily armed"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "and the normal things start to break"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "down like food distribution and water"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "schools. What do you have? Well, you"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "have what we've had in Lebanon and Syria"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "and really every country that Israel has"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "destabilized on purpose. You have a"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "refugee crisis. And where do they go?"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "Well, of course, a lot will come here,"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "of course. But a lot will go to Europe,"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "just as Syrians flooded into Europe"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "10 or 12 years ago in the aftermath of"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "that conflict, which was underneath it"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "all fermented by Israel in order to"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "destabilize its neighbor, in order to"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "increase its own authority in the"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "region. That's a fact."}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "So, if you think Europe's in bad shape"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "now, oh boy, give it a year."}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "So, it's Europe, the United States, and"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "the Gulf States. Those are the losers."}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "And if you're trying to ascertain"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "motive, which is hard, and you probably"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "should pull back from that most of the"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "time, but if you're trying to understand"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "like why this is happening, why would"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "you want that? Look at the effects."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "Don't look at the ideology they're"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "telling you about or the whatever motive"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "they're claiming they have or that you"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "have. Shut up, Shiite. Okay?"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "Look at the effects. The point of the"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "system is what it does. And what does"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "this system, what does this war do?"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "Hurts the Gulf States."}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "Crushes the Western Europeans."}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "And it hurts the United States. That's"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "the point."}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "And if you doubt that,"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "if you doubt that that's actually what's"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "going on,"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "this is uh longtime"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "Israeli politician leader Nefali Bennett"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "explaining"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "Israel's next step. Here's where they're"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "going next. Watch."}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:39", "text": ">> A new Turkish threat is emerging. I want"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "to be very clear. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:44", "text": ">> Turkey and Qatar have gained influence"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "in Syria, are seeking influence"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "elsewhere and everywhere throughout the"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "region. And from here, I warn Turkey is"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "the new Iran."}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": ">> Oh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": ">> a smattering of a"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": ">> is sophisticated, dangerous,"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "and he seeks to encircle Israel."}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "We can't close our eyes again."}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "He's sophisticated and dangerous."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "It's hardly an endorsement of Erdogan or"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "Erdogon, the Turkish leader. Hardly an"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "endorsement of him to say."}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "When Bennett says he's dangerous,"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "what he really means is he's sovereign."}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "We can't tell him what to do. We don't"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "fully control him. We can influence him"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "and it's clear that"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:43", "text": ">> Oh, exactly. Just like Libya. You mean"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "Libya is energy independent,"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "sovereign, want to give back the wealth"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "of its oil and and resources to its"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "people and enrich its people. We can't"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "have that. We can't have a sovereign"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "country in the Middle East that's"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "self-sufficient."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "So, we have to sodomize with a bayonet"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "their leader, Gaddafi."}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "It's the exact same thing with Turkey."}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "Israel and Turkey did have some kind of"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "relationship uh in the overthrow of"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "Bashar Assad in Syria last year. Just a"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "guess. But the real problem with Turkey"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "is that it can't be controlled. So it is"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "therefore a threat to Israel and again"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "not attacking Israel. That's true. That"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "is true in the same sense that when we"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "have hostile leaders in big countries in"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "our hemisphere, it really bothers us and"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "sometimes we kill them. regime change"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "them and we make up this whole no it's"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "really important the people of country X"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "need to be free but really we need to be"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "unconstrained because we're a great"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "power that's what it is"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "it's important to say this not to allege"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "some sort of dark conspiracy by the"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "Israelis but to explain that it's not"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "unusual at all it's the most usual thing"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "in the world what's unusual is to live"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "in a country that is so controlled whose"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "media environment is so precisely"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "constructed to keep you from knowing"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "anything that matters,"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "from seeing the most obvious things. And"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "that it has been constructed, it's not a"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "conspiracy theory, over the course of"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "many, many years to keep you from not"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "knowing"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "Barry Weiss may run CNN."}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "Who ever thought that would happen?"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "Okay, now um but the you know the point"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "of these moves"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "is to in the media is to control the way"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "things are described so you can't see"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "things clearly and to muddy the"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "conversation with anti-semitism, the"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "Nazis. No. No. This is classic great"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "power competition and we just can't see"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "it because we have been so thoroughly"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "propagandized. We think that this is"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "some sort of like effort to liberate"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "somebody. It's not."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "But then the question becomes like what"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "is our role in this? So now that we know"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "by the way it's it's perilous that we"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "know and one of the reasons I almost"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "didn't do this not that I'm like saying"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "anything that isn't obvious. It's all"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "very obvious but to say it out loud"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "does not make things more stable. Other"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "words, once you have a war going on and"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "everybody knows that it's not being"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "waged on behalf of the people who are"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "dying in it or the families they leave"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "behind,"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "then you know things can things don't"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "get more stable. So, and no one wants to"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "add to the present instability. But I"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "just think it's important to know the"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "truth and to know what our leaders have"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "planned because as you already know,"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "they lie and they have no scruples at"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "all. And there are very few people in"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "Washington who have fewer scruples than"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Hate to"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "say that, know him well. Um, but this"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "clip from the yesterday from a Sunday"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "show, which apparently still exists,"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "yesterday, uh, really tells you a lot"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "about how they're thinking and about"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "where they'd like to take us next. So,"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "this is Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "yesterday."}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:14", "text": ">> Good morning, Margaret. Uh, the"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "president of the United States warned"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "the American public that there could be"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "casualties, American casualties. Does"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "that mean the US is putting boots on the"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "ground?"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:26", "text": ">> No, Margaret, the president has been"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "clear that what we should expect to see"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "is an extended air and naval campaign"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "that's designed not only to continue to"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "set,"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:35", "text": ">> by the way, doesn't he look like a Pez"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "dispenser?"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": ">> Back Iran's nuclear ambitions, but most"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "importantly to destroy its vast missile"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "arsenal. uh many more missiles. The"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "United States and Israel have air"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "defenses combined as well as the missile"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "launchers and uh its missile"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "manufacturing capability. Now,"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "obviously, one risk of that kind of"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "campaign is that an aircraft could be"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "shot down and the president would never"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "leave a pilot behind. So, no doubt we"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "have combat search and rescue assets in"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "the region that are prepared to go in"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "and extract any down pilot. But barring"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "that kind of unusual circumstance,"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "Margaret, the president has no plan for"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "any kind of large-scale ground uh force"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "inside of Iran."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:18", "text": ">> But then we just heard from the"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "president today say that he's not ruling"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "out ground forces."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "The president has no plan for any sort"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "of large scale uh ground force. Large"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "scale ground force uh in Iran. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "really? So, a small scale ground force."}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "Is that what you're saying? Well, that"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "is what he's saying. And the Secretary"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "of War was just interviewed moments ago"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "uh and pressed on this a little bit and"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "he said it's it's possible because of"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "course it's possible. By the way, you"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "shouldn't even attack people for telling"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "the truth ever. You should attack people"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "who try to prevent you from telling the"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "truth. And and what Secretary of War"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "Pete Hexath just said is of course"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "obviously true and was always true. You"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "there's not one person who understands a"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "situation like this kinetic war uh who"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "thinks you can affect regime change from"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "the Arab. But no one's ever thought"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "that. No one thinks that. Now, if you're"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "sincere about changing the leadership of"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "a country, it by definition requires you"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "to get in there. Not well, of course,"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "not you, but some young guy, some"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "younger man, uh, who's fighting for"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "freedom to get in there and risk his"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "life to do it. You need troops, ground"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "troops, boots on the ground, or whatever"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "dumb euphemism they're using for putting"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "young Americans, um, in the path of"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "potential death."}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "And so, of course, that's always been"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "the plan. And shame on the rest of us"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "for not just saying that out loud. Shame"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "on the rest of us for being so cowed by"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "their relentless incantations, whatever"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "they are. No ground troops. This is not"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "The point is not regime change. It's to"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "stop their nuclear program."}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "Some of us understood. Charlie Kirk"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "understood back in June. That was a lie."}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "The point wasn't Iran can never have a"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "nuclear weapon. Yeah. Nobody wants Iran"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "to have a nuclear weapon. Why does"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "Israel have a nuclear weapon? Why does"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "France have a nuclear weapon? Nobody"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "wants nuclear weapons. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "nobody"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "thinks that Iran should have a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "weapon outside of Iran."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "But no honest person believed in June"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "and now those people have been"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "vindicated that this was about stopping"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "them from getting a nuclear regime"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "change and regime change requires ground"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "troops and therefore if you're serious"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "about it, you're going to get ground"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "troops."}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "The only group left out of this"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "calculation was the American public who"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "probably had no idea and probably still"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "don't have any idea that that would even"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "be a remote consideration given"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "everything that's going on in this"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "country right now. And given the tiny"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "percentage, relatively speaking, of"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "Americans who wanted this, who voted for"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "it, who support it, the leaders of both"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "parties support it. Chuck Schuber"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "supports it more fervently than Trump."}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "MSNBC just did a long segment on this"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "which I watched about this war and the"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "fall of the Gulf States. It's the Gulf"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "States. Yeah, it's they're all on the"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "same page. They're all neocons when it"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "comes right down to it. They all support"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "but the public doesn't support it. And"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "it's terrible for the United States. And"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "by the way, if you think it's a good"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "idea for the US to get out of the Middle"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "East, which it might be, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "that's not a crazy desire."}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": ">> This is not the way to do it. humiliated"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "with American dead. That's not the way"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "to get out of the Middle East, but"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "that's how Israel wants us out of the"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "Middle East. You won't come back."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "They can pivot to their new partner,"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "China. And Israel can provide the tech"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "that will even up the match against the"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "Chinese tech that Pakistan used in their"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "last confrontation. Scared China."}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "They realize we need better tech."}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "China's like, \"Oh yeah, we've got the"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "better tech.\" So, it's it's a natural"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "alliance. And there are other reasons"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "it's a natural alliance. But Israel is"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "moving on to India. And the United"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "States is, if Israel gets its way, going"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "to be humiliated and weaker, mourning"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "its dead and very resistant to getting"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "involved in Middle East politics ever"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "again. You want to annihilate every last"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "child in Gaza, go ahead. You want to"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "kick the Palestinians, the Christians"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "out of the West Bank and fill it full of"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "people from Brooklyn, go ahead. We're"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "not going to do anything about it."}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "That's the goal right there."}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "Just to wrap your head around the idea"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "that not only have they never been our"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "strongest ally, our greatest ally, but"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "in fact they're using us"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "to rid the Middle East of their enemies."}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "And they have every intention of ridding"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "the Middle East of us"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "at the heart of it. I mean, it's like"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "it's like some battered girlfriend who"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "just like keeps coming back for more."}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "We'll just beat you up. We'll steal your"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "nuclear materials from Pennsylvania."}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "We'll,"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "you know, we'll we'll take over your"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "Congress. We'll we'll kill we'll kill"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "your journalists. We'll spy on you."}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "We'll"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "we'll take your technology and then sell"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "it to the Chinese which what they've"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "done. So in no way an ally like in no"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "way a friend other than in"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "you know it being verbal only"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "and then we're going to turn right"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "around and kick you out of the Middle"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "East. We're going to use you, which is"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "exactly what they're doing,"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "and then you will go home with your tail"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "between your legs, humiliated"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "as we take over the Middle East and the"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "Gulf Arab states collapse and Western"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "Europe collapses."}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "When you hear it in those terms, it's"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "absolutely shocking."}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "And he goes on for another hour, and I"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "encourage you all to watch it. I'll have"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "it linked up below. But I think this was"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "like a master class"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "in understanding this this conflict and"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "how all of these players"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "are going to move forward with this and"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "the United States will be will suffer"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "greatly and we will be humiliated."}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "We'll see you soon. Thank you for"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "subscribing."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Welcome everyone on this Monday to the"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "show. Great to see everybody. Um what an"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "incredible weekend and past 24 hours as"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Iran has sent a barrage of missiles into"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Tel Aviv. Of course, you won't see this"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "on Fox News anywhere. I just was like"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "watching Fox News over the past hour. No"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "mention of what happened over the past"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "24 hours really in Israel at all. Is"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "that surprising?"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Uh no, it is not. Uh, also no mention of"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Iranians in the streets protesting"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "against US intervention. Uh, calling"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "against Netanyahu and Trump together."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Hard to find, isn't it? It's a little"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "bit hard to find that information."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Yeah, dig for it. You're not going to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "find it on Fox News or the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "media, which of course is in lock step"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "with the neocons in Washington DC, which"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "push for regime change. Of course, we"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "heard recently, of course, from the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Secretary of War, Pete Hexes, just spoke"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "a short time ago saying that this will"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "not be a protracted war. We have"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "objectives. We have goals. I'd love to"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "know what those objectives and goals"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "are. And President Trump says four to"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "five weeks. So, we're going to ask"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Colonel Dan Davis, host of The Deep Dive"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "with Daniel Davis, really one of the the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "smartest voices in all of this, to kind"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "of go through and figure out exactly"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "what is the military strategy here and"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "what are they not telling us. We're"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "going to talk with him."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Oh gosh, I was just watching his live"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "stream. He's fired up and I I'm here for"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "it cuz I'm fired up too. Uh we're going"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "to talk about what else? We're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "talk about how this continues to put"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Americans at risk. um it inspires"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "radical Islam. How could it not? Are we"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "uh at any danger of Iranian sleeper"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "cells here inside the United States?"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Will it in fact impact our borders? So,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "we're going to talk about all of that"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "and more. Thank you so much for being"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "here. 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Now recall"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "about two weeks ago the Trump"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "administration fired generals who said"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "this will not go well and then this is"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "not going well. After assuring the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "American people that the war would be a"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "quickie. We could just quick in and out"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "pull a little regime change. President"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Trump and the Pentagon now say this"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "could take four to five weeks. President"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Trump, when asked if ground troops might"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "be necessary, said he's not ruling that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "out after assuring us we would never"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "need to do that for a war that was"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "ordered up by Israel basically on a door"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "dash. Now, the White House says that the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "US actually does have stated goals, and"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "they've given us this infographic. Let's"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "study it for a second, shall we? Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "first, they're saying they're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "destroy Iran's missile capabilities."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Then, they're going to annihilate their"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "navy. uh they're saying that they want"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "to make sure they can't sponsor any"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "terror anymore and obtain a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "weapon. And this the fourth one that"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "they cannot arm fund and direct"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "terrorist armies outside of their"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "border. So that one being overly broad,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "you know, they could just say, \"Oh, you"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "know, someone over here did something."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "We think Iran did it. We're still going"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "to keep going.\" That one, I think, is"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "the placeholder to keep this war going"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "indefinitely. But we'll see. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "know, we have sources inside Iran that"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "have said that Iranian Navy has not"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "suffered losses, that most of this war"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "will be conducted with drone equipped"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "speedboats, and those are still sitting"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "in the harbor right now. They're not"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "that afraid of that."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> By the way, Fox News just a short time"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "ago even had the gall to admit on their"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "air that Iranian drones are almost"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "unstoppable. they they're having that's"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the biggest trouble right now for Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "or for for Israel and the United States"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "is these Iranian drone attacks."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> Yes. And then if we could just put that"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "graphic back up. The idea of the missile"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "systems being destroyed. Well, those are"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "underground because Iran has been"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "preparing for this for about as long as"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the United States has been threatening"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "it, which is what do we say take"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Clayton? Two decades, two and a half"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "decades. So yeah, they they've been they"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "they kind of saw this one coming like"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "from a long way. go back to 2002,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "September 12th of 2002 when uh what's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "his name? Netanyahu, Milikoski,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "whatever, was sitting in Congress and"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "answer the question from Dennis Cusinich"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "specifically."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "You any other threats out there we"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "should know of is he was trying to sell"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the Iraq war. Yeah, Iran. That's that's"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the next one. You really got to pay"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "attention to Iran 2002."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> So, yeah, long time we this one was a"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "long time coming. So, anyone who"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Sorry, someone tried to tell you this"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "weekend. Ooh, they really didn't see"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "this coming."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "I'm sorry. That's so dumb. It's so dumb."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "It's not a laughing matter, but you"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "think they didn't see"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> I'm sorry. You take it from here."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> All right. We want to bring in uh"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Colonel Daniel Davis, host of The Deep"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Dive with Daniel Davis now, who is uh"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "one of the real sensible voices in all"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "of this. And uh Colonel, great to see"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "you as always. Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "I just want to get your sense overnight"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "that I'm surprised like here's some new"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "footage from Tel Aviv. And I was"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "speaking to sources in Tel Aviv who were"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "showing me videos outside of their"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "freaking window of what they were"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "seeing, but you won't see this on Fox"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "News at all. This is this is Tel Aviv."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Um, you know, of course, buildings being"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "blown up, direct hits right next to city"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "hall. But why is Fox News, do you think,"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "not really covering any of this damage"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "in Tel Aviv, Colonel? Well, look, uh, I"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "just saw a few minutes ago a interview"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "with Keith Kellogg on Fox News, and they"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "were asking him about a, uh, I think it"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "was a Wall Street Journal report that"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "said that we're going to have to do"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "something pretty quick because we're"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "going to run out of interceptor"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "missiles. We don't have enough to"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "sustain this over this four to five week"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "period that President Trump talked"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "about. And he says, \"No, no, no. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "not the case. No problem at all. U, we"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "obviously wouldn't have ordered"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "something like this. Our commander"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "wouldn't have ordered something like"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "this unless he knew we had enough"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "missiles in the stockpile.\" And in any"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "case, we can get some from our allies if"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "we need to. And and I was just thinking,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "look, UAE, according to Bloomberg, has"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "said that they've got about a week left"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "of interceptor missiles and they're"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "going to run out and they're not even"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the primary target. We're seeing, you"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "just showed a video there of the even"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "what we have. It's the these missiles"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "that are coming in from Iran are just"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "going through it like a civ. Uh and now"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "that we may run out completely and and"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "then that's that's something I think you"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "and I have talked about before. We had a"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "limited number of interceptor missiles"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "because we've given so many to Israel"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "over the last two and a half years and"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "to Ukraine over the previous four years"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "and our inventory was already low. This"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "is why I have been warning so"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "emphatically for so long that these wars"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "are making our own national security"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "less uh vulner more vulnerable and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "putting us at higher risk. And now"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "you're seeing it play out before your"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "eyes. But it could get a lot worse"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "because now then there's nowhere else to"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "get missiles from and and we can't make"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "them fast enough. And if we keep going"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "on with this fiction that we're going to"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "win something here and we use all the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "rest we have, our entire national"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "security across our global requirements"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "will be put at greater risk. And that is"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "something that should be uh it should"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "never get to that point. Now, some of"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "the propaganda is, \"Oh, Europe is"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "mobilizing. Oh, we've got France. We've"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "got Greece.\" They don't have a major"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "army other than NATO funded armies. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "do you think that Iran would be quaking"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "in their boots that uhoh, here comes"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Greece?"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm thinking that the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "mighty Greece armed forces is not"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "exactly going to cause a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "trepidation in Thrron when the US and"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Israeli armed forces together are not"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "causing them to quake. Look, this"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "onslaught is is tremendous amount of"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "combat power. And for all the videos you"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "were showing there in Tel Aviv, there's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "just as many in in Tan and some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "other cities in K and and in several"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "other places throughout the country,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "they are getting just pummeled and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "hammered because a lot of our stuff's"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "getting through as well. But the fact is"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "they knew this was coming and they have"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "calculated and they they signal this"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "ahead of time that they felt that is"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "less risky to have a war with the United"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "States and Israel than it was to submit"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "again because otherwise it was going to"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "eventually get to that point to where"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "they would be destroyed anyway. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "they said, \"Look, we're going to hit you"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "back in the face and we're going to give"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "you a bloody nose. We're going to give"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "you a broken arm.\" And so far that's"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "exactly what they're doing. And the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "question is this is all about missiles."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "It's not going to be about anybody's"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "army or any ground force. There's no"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "army involved here. This is all about"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "missile forces and air defense missile"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "forces. And it's a matter of who's got"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "the most resources. And right now, I"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "don't think we have enough air defense"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "missiles. And I think that Iran does"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "have enough offensive missiles to at"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "least drag this out for multiple months"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "longer than we can. This is probably not"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "going to go like the Russia Ukraine war"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "where it can go on for years. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "probably something that could go on for"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "weeks or many months potentially. And if"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "it does, we're in a world of hurt"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "because we can't drag it out that long."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Especially if they completely shut off"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "the straight of Hormuz and they have it"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "partially shut off now, the whole"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Western economy is going to be in a"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "world of hurt."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> Um former Supreme Allied Commander of"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "NATO,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Admiral James uh Stavitus, am I saying"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "that correctly? uh says, \"As both the US"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and Israel expend hundreds of precision"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "weapons from uh JDAMs to tomahawks to"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "patriots, it is time to start focusing"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "on logistics. How deep are the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "stockpiles?\" In wars, the true"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "professionals are ultimately the"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "logisticians."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Do you agree with that?"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, it's time to start"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "focusing on logistics, right? Look,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Clayton, this should have been done way"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "back in the planning stage. The when the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "first day you ever got together in the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "the the tank or wherever they did this"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "in the Pentagon or wherever, that should"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "have been job number one. You should"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "have had all these charges said, \"All"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "right, here's how much our inventories"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "we have, the the classified numbers."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Here's what we think it would take to"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "accomplish the objectives, the political"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "objectives that the president wants, and"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "here's how much time we think it would"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "take to get that.\" And then you say, \"Do"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "the ways and the means match? Can we get"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "this done?\" The answer would clearly"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "have been no because the only way it's a"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "yes and it looks to me like this is what"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "we are literally gambling everything on."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "You think that you've bought into the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "rhetoric that they were saying before"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "this that the Iranian regime is like a"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "house of cards. It's never been weaker"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "than it whole 47 years than it is right"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "now. So you go and you throw a few"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "missiles down, they collapse, they fall,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "game over and yay, we win. We come out"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "easy victory. That's I think the only"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "way that you could say that we're going"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "to take this action here because if they"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "did the normal thing which is to not"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "collapse because with no threat of a"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "ground force like there was in Iraq in"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "2003 then the only thing you have is"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "missiles and we clearly did not have"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "enough offensive missiles in a country"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "four times bigger than the country of of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Iraq to bomb them into the stone age."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Just consider consider this so important"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "here. The tiny little Gaza strip that"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Israel had complete mastery over for 2"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "and 1/2 years have literally turned it"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "into a moonscape and they still have not"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "sub brought into submission the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Palestinian people and Hamas even even"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Hamas in this tiny little enclave. Now"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "imagine in a country the size of Iran"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "that you're going to expect them to"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "collapse overnight when almost nobody"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "else does that in history. The Houthies"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "didn't do it. Hamas didn't do it."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Hezbollah didn't even do it. Even with"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "all the damage they've caused. And you"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "think that Iran is going to do that. And"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "yet we have gambled everything. And now"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "we're on a course to where we are using"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "all these J&Ms or these precision"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "munitions, the air defense missiles, and"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "there's no path to get out now. So this"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "is a huge blunder of of enormous"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "proportions."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "about two weeks ago, it was reported"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "that General Dan Kaine reported to the"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "president that we don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "ammunition to win this war. It would not"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "be pretty. We probably would not. And"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "then President Trump took to his truth"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "social and said, \"Oh, no, no, no, no. If"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "we do it, it will be easily won.\" He"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "promised easily won. And now here we are"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "and it looks like we General Kane was"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "probably right. He there were adults in"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "the room who knew our capabilities. You"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "know, they had assured us there would be"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "no ground troops. Now, President Trump"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "is saying there may be ground troops if"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "if that's necessary. I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "even know what the entry point would be"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "in Iran. You're saying ground troops"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "would not really do very much."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "So, speak to the fact that this is not"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "easily won and anyone who believed that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "is a jerk. Could I also maybe just"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "follow up with that, Colonel? Is that"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "also to what you just said, an admission"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "to use ground troops is an admission"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "that we don't have the missiles to"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "sustain the mission."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Inadvertently, that's exactly what it"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "is. And you know, and I wondered at the"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "minute you you brought up that issue"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "about Trump's true social after the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "reports were that General Kaine said"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "that there was some enormous risk"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "involved here. And Trump came out and"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "said, \"No, that's not what he said at"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "all. Fake news.\" Actually, he said he"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "said this is what Trump he quoted Kane."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "He said we would win easily. Not that"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Trump said it. He claimed that that's"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "what the general said. And I noticed and"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "looked very carefully for it. It was not"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "rebutted anywhere. General Kane never"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "came out and said he didn't say that."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "And I was thinking at the time, I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "like, I'm wondering how this is going to"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "play out in history. This is before the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "attack. Because if it goes the way I"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "think it's going to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "refute that, then now then you're going"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "out there and you're you're letting the"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "president mischaracterize something. and"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "you said and you're going going forward."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "So, do you have the integrity to stand"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "up and say, \"No, that's not what I said."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "I did not say it was going to be easy.\""}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Because right now it looks like you're"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "conf concurring with him. So, now you're"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "allowing by your silence for people to"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "believe that, oh, well, that is what he"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "said then because the president said it"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "and he didn't contradict it."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> And so, now if you have the chairman of"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "the Joint Chiefs of Staff that told the"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "president this is going to be easy, then"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "you got the wrong guy in that job. And"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "if he didn't say that and if he believed"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "that otherwise and yet he stayed silent"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "and continued going on, you still have a"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "problem because at some point somebody's"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "got to stand up and say, \"No, you're"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "given a political objective that we"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "don't have the military capacity to"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "accomplish. And if we try to get this"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "accomplishment where it's impossible to"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "succeed or improbable, then we will cost"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "ourselves tremendously.\" We're already"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "seeing that play out now. God help us if"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "this continues on, if it even goes to"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "this four-week part, because we have"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "already suffered so much loss, not just"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "in the number of troops, but in our"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "credibility and reputation among our"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "friends and allies, much less among our"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "potential adversaries. This is very"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "costly. If we keep ignoring reality and"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "go further down and then we physically"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "get even lower in our position guided"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "weapons and our air defense missiles, I"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "I'm telling you, I mean this our"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "national security across the globe will"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "be at perilous risk and we just have to"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "hope no one puts us to the test further."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> What about troops on the ground?"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "Actually, as I someone in the chat room"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "reminded us and I think maybe Colonel"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "McGregor had mentioned that we don't"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "even have enough troops for this going"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "in. What would that even look like? Are"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "we prepared to send how many would it"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "take to go in and try to"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> absolutely not you know that when in"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "Desert Storm where where I was part of"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "that deployment then in fact I fought"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "alongside Colonel Doug McGregor then he"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "was major at the time and I was a a"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "green second lieutenant and you know"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Saddam Hussein invaded on August 1990"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "and then by November we we already knew"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "that it was likely we were going to get"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "called up but the order came in November"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "and it took us about um I guess three or"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "four months to get all of our combat"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "power into the region and that that was"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "an army of 750,000 we had at that time."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Now we've got about 450 or so and that's"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "total army of the worldwide all the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "place and you're talking maybe 120,000"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "actual combat troops in part to that we"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "don't have a fraction of of anything"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "that's on active duty to be able to"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "engage something like that and as as you"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "just mentioned a minute ago where would"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "you go in from Baghdad? Do you think"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Baghdad's going to allow us to have this"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "army informed? And it would take months"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "to get there. And of course, the the"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "terrain is so much more difficult in"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Iraq. I I've looked at the terrain that"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "it would take to go whether from Kuwait"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "or from Baghdad, anywhere in Iraq to get"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "elect, like say to Thran to be able to"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "unseat the the political seat of power,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "it would be almost impossible because"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "it's through almost like a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "mountains in Afghanistan. You'd have to"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "go through mountains and there's all"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "this canalizing terrain and you know"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "narrow roads and you could be ambushed"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "everywhere. We would never make it. So"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "there is no matter how many troops we"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "have, we could not accomplish. You're"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "not going to invade Iran and have any"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "success. So the only thing you can do is"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "the air. And that's why I say this has"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "been a gamble of historic proportions of"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "rolling the dice and hoping that they"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "just collapse. But if Iran just"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "maintains its solvency and its"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "viability, we're going to lose"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "strategically."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> Now, something you said on your show"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "earlier this afternoon, you said, you"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "know, there's a lot of propaganda out"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "there. We're winning. We're doing great."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "You know, these are our strategic"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "objectives. Some Americans buy it. Fine."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "But our partners overseas do not. And"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "this will cost us dearly because of"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "that. Can you expand on that because I"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "really stopped on that point when you"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "said it. Yeah. Yeah. So, let's just look"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "at the Middle East especially because"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "the everybody has been our friend and"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "everybody has been a backer of the"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "United States because of the perception"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "that we're the lion, you know, and the"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "king of the jungle. We're the the big,"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "you know, bull on the block that"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "everybody else is afraid of and we can"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "keep everybody safe. Well, now we have"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "proven already that because of our"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "choice, our decision to go to fight a"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "war that didn't need to be fought, we"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "were not able to pro provide protection"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "from them. So now then, I mean, cities"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "are on fire, high-rise buildings are"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "going up in flames, uh the their their"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "oil infrastructure is getting struck,"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "and we can't stop it. I mean, not only"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "do we not have enough air defense"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "missiles, our our allies don't have"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "enough air defense missiles. So all this"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "air defense capabilities that we've"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "given everybody that we say this is"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "incredible is obviously not because the"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "missiles and the drones are getting"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "through anyway. So now then people are"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "starting to see and this was with Qatar"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "a little bit in 2025 when our base there"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "was it was a demonstration hit but at"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "least they saw wait a minute you you"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "didn't keep us from getting hit and now"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "then they have been hit themselves not"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "just our bases but the countries"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "themselves so they have paid a price"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "because of our actions in here. So now"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "then you got to say, does it make sense"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "to continue to be friends with the"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "United States when that means that"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "because of their actions, not only they"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "not protect you, but they spawned an"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "attack on you. And that is something"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "that I don't think anyone has come to"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "grips with. And I'm talking about in"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "these countries yet, but I promise you"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "they're going to. And then you can carry"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "that over into NATO. You call it into"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "the the European countries. And they're"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "seeing now that our stuff is not that"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "good. And now that we're running out of"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "the ability to even defend Israel, and"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "you see how bad that's going. So people"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "are going to start saying, \"Does it make"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "sense to keep on hanging our future"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "defense and our security to an erratic"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "regime like the United States?\" I mean,"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "that's you got to imagine they're"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "thinking that."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": ">> Now we have Saudi officials who are"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "going on TV saying, \"The United States"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "abandoned us. We"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": ">> here's and this is Saudi. This is the"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "video here. This is the Ross Tonora oil"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "fields. 500,000"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "barrels of oil per day being produced at"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "this oil field uh up in smoke. And you"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "know, we spoke to a guest the other day"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "who said that's the biggest concern."}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Once the oil infrastructure is"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "destroyed, this is not something you can"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "this is not a genie you can put back in"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "the bottle, Colonel."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:33", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's and it's I mean, number"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "one, it's going to take time. Look,"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "we've we've seen that these things can"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "be fixed because I mean, look at no"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "further than Ukraine. They've had their"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "facilities hit a lot. Russia's had a lot"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "of their facilities hit. those things"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "could be repaired, but they'll those"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "sides are in a full-on war, and they"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "understand that there's not supposed to"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "be a war here. And and we have now"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "started one that is causing them to get"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "hit. And I think that's one of the"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "intentions. And I think that's one of"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "the objectives of the Iranian regime is"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "that they're saying, \"Okay, we don't"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "have the wherewithal to physically"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "defeat the United States. They can't."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "They can they can harm us. They can hit"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "us with these missiles, but I think that"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "they have made what is probably a pretty"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "shrewd calculation to say, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "hit your friends in the area to prove"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "that you can't protect them and to make"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "them cause in the future not to be"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "supportive of you because we've gotten"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "blanket support for decades. And and I"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "think that once the smoke clears from"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "all this, however it rolls out, however"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "much damage is done, it'll be repaired"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "at some point. But the question is going"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "to be what's going to be the damage on"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "the political side afterwards. that"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "could be far more consequential to us"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "than the physical"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": ">> new video in Colonel just to this is"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "Israel of course it's nighttime there um"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "you know Iranian ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "strikes what type when you're looking at"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "these types of strikes here what are you"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "seeing I mean what it seems like"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "interceptors failing to stop these are"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "these hypersonics that you're seeing"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "coming in here what are we seeing"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:59", "text": ">> yeah I I I'm not some of those look"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "legit some of those don't I'm I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "worried that a lot of this stuff or some"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "of this stuff anyway is is AIdriven. Um,"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "but some of the especially that"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "hypersonic one that that looks like"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "stuff we've seen. I'm not sure if all"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "this is legit or not. Uh, but what we"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "know for a fact is that a number of the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "for sure real videos. It just shows"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "missile after missile coming in and a"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "small percentage of them are even"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "getting in engaged much less"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "intercepted. Uh, and and you know the"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "longer this goes the Israel just can't"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "survive a lot of this damage. Whether"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "those were AI videos, we don't know. But"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "you see in the daylight, even on Fox"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "News, they've shown some substantial"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "damage on the ground inside of Israel."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "And this is going to continue to happen."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "And until I mean, there there was a"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "reason why the 12-day war only lasted 12"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "days because Israel said, uh, we can't"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "do this and we can't stop these"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "missiles. We don't have enough in"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "defense missiles. And they're not"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "stopping it anyway. That's why they"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "pushed they pushed to have the war end"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "last time because they didn't want to."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "And now here we are again. And and this"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "is what boggles my mind is that the same"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "technology that existed last June was"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "still in place here. So for you to pre"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "preemptive uh preemptively strike a"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "missile that you knew was going to get"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "the Iranians to fire back, you knew the"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "outcome was going to be the same as it"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "was in June of last year and so it is."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "So what are they going to do now? They"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "going to stop again after 12 days. Will"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "Iran stop after 12 days? That's a bigger"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "question and I don't know that they"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "will."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": ">> Right. You mentioned that they have"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "calculated they need to stop this once"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "and for all and it's hard not to see why"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "that calculation would be valid because"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "they're call you know our American"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "government is calling this epic fury."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "They are calling it operation true"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "promise 4. Now why four? Because we"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "started it in April. They didn't attack"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "first. The US and Israel did. Uh Octo uh"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "sorry April of 2024 when uh Israel"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "struck the consulate. October of 2024,"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "Israel struck inside of Iran to target,"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "they say, Hamas and senior Iranian"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "leaders. Then last summer in June, then"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "they got hit first again. So they keep"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "getting hit first. We hit them again"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "during peace talks, which shows they"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "were not going to strike first. Every"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "time we say this was preemptive and then"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "we hit them first four times. So, how"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "can we expect a country to just keep"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "taking bombs and not strike back? So,"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "you're saying their calculation is we're"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "putting an end to this. It it ends now."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": ">> And again, it's it's totally logical and"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "and man, that's a great point you just"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "made, uh, Natalie, because just before I"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "came on here, I saw Secretary of State"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "Rubio came out there and said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "listen, um, Israel was going to attack.\""}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "He admitted this. Israel was going to"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "attack and we didn't have any choice."}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Otherwise, we would be sitting there"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "waiting for Iran to attack us first. And"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "Iran has never never in 47 years"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "attacked us first. They've never done"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "that. They've always tried to calibrate"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "even their retaliation to try and not"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "have this escalate into a big war. And"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "so now then they have said, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "we're still not going to start it, but"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "since you have, now we're going to go"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "and do other things and we're going to"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "now really unload on you.\" And that's"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "what we're seeing play out right now. So"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "Rubio was just flat out lying uh when he"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "said that they would have attacked us."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "There's no way they would have attacked"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "us. They haven't ever and they certainly"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "wouldn't have done it now. But now then"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "we have done this. And he's just using"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "that to cover over to make it sound like"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "oh well we didn't have a choice. Oh, you"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "damn sure had a choice. You didn't have"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "to let is if Israel wanted to do that."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "And and Tucker Carlson said this and I I"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "was really disappointed that he said"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "this the day before the attack even. He"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "said, \"Well, I mean, what else are we"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "going to do if they're going to attack?"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "I mean, we we I guess we have to go and"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "try to shape it and, you know, go in"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "with them.\" No, we did not have to shape"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "it. We should have told them, \"Hell no."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "If you take this action, you're on your"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "own. We will not help you. We will not"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "get involved. We will signal to"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "everybody, to include the Iranians,"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "you're on your own. That's between"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "y'all. If you want to do it, we're not"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "going to do it.\" That's what he should"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "have done if it was America first. If we"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "actually cared about our troops in the"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "region, that's what we would have done."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "But instead, I don't think that they I"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "think that was a canard from the"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "beginning. It was never because they"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "were going to go in. I think it's that"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "we've been coordinated this for a long"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "time. As a matter of fact, uh Benjamin"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "Netanyahu said that this has been going"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "on, this planning had been going on for"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "months, even before the December 28"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "meeting at Mara Lago. Uh the United"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "States has bragged about this"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "coordination and cooperation. So, I"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "don't I don't buy that at all that we"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "had to. We chose to do this and now we"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "paid with American blood that should"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "never have been spilt and now all this"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "damage to our infrastructure and we"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "don't know where this is going. We still"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "got a lot more damage probably to come."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "I'm I'm really upset by that."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": ">> Yeah, someone in the chat called it"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "operation no plan B."}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Well,"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": ">> maybe no plan A,"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": ">> right? Yeah. I I mean, I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "retread what we I I'll get you on this,"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "but uh Colonel IRGC General Jabari just"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "said the the Americans have relocated a"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "majority of their aircraft to Cyprus. We"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "will launch so many missiles at Cypress"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "that they will be forced to flee from"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "there as well. This is uh this is"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "Jabari. Let's just here let me see if we"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "can get some sound on this. Uh"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "foreign."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "Yeah. So, uh, Colonel, what do you So, I"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "just want to get to like the military"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "perspective here. the U like logistics"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "and you would know it better than"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "anyone, but US aircraft right now, the"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "aircraft carriers, we heard from a"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "source today in Iran that said, you"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "know, as Natalie pointed out earlier,"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "Iranian Navy is fine. In fact, thousands"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "of these small speedboat attack style um"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "uh boats are out in the Persian Gulf. Um"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "that like any kind of big ships are in"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "port. Um it has not been destroyed"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "despite what we're hearing from the"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "Western media. So, from an American"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "perspective, where are we like"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "positioning a bulk of our forces right"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "now to your knowledge?"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": ">> Yeah, it's hard to know because you you"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "hear so many uh claims by both sides"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "that are mutually exclusive. They can't"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "both be true. And and I don't have any"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "way right now, at least this early, to"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "be able to authoritatively say where"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "anything is. I I've I've heard this from"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "the Iranian side that that they forced"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "us to flee from all these bases. I heard"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "from uh a source that I have that has"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "direct connections into the area that"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "says a lot of our stuff has been"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "relocated"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "away from Bahrain for example. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "how much I don't know where it's gone? I"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "don't know that either. Have the"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "aircraft carriers moved further back? I"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "I just don't have any knowledge about"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "that. Um the only thing we do know is"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "that according to the British there were"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "at least two missiles that were fired at"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "Cyprus. Uh allegedly they were both"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "intercepted and that was that was early"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "this morning. Um and and so if he fires"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "more in there later, I I I don't know."}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "They could be bluster. It could just be"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "trying to, you know, argue that they're"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "going to do this or look strong with"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "their own domestic audience because"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "that's who the primary audience with"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "that was. Or it could be true. I don't"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "know. But what we do know is that they"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "have made good and that they can"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "penetrate air defense in all of these"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "other places in the region. Uh and I"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "mean I can't rule out the possibility"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "they could do that."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": ">> Um are we entering like phase two right"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "now? Is it safe to to call this phase"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "two when the initial wave and"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "decapitation attack didn't work? Um,"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": ">> I I think that what I I think the person"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "that made that comment on your show a"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "second ago has got it right here. We had"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "a plan A, which was let's go in and blow"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "a bunch of crap up and kill a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "people and see if we can assassinate the"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "ayatollah and hopefully that will cause"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "them to collapse like a house of cards."}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "And it didn't work. And so I don't think"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "there was a plan B. I don't they"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "definitely don't have anything resourced"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "and so I don't think they know what"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "they're going to do. I I truly don't."}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "It's mind-boggling that that's the case."}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "I I think I don't remember if it's on"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "your show or not, but I've bemoaned many"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "times uh and condemned the Russians"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "because they had a plan A in their war"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "to have all this combat power come in to"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "compel the Ukraine side to uh capitulate"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "and have a negotiated settlement. At"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "least that plan A was plausible and"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "nearly worked, but at the at the end"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "they ended up fighting harder and"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "rejected the the negotiations at"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "Istanbul. And then it took Russia a good"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "year and a half to recover from that to"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "resource themselves for their real plan"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "B. And you know, that's worked out"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "pretty well so far. We don't have a plan"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "B that I can see. We don't have the"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "industrial capacity to recover like the"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "way the Russians did because they"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "already had a pretty decent defense"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "industrial base and then they ramped it"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "up real big because it was an"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "existential strike. This one's not"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "existential for us. In fact, most of the"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "people are looking at this and saying,"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "\"Why do we even start this? Just stop"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "the dying. Stop the killing. Stop"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "getting rid of our missiles and let's"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "end this because our security is not"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "threatened by Iran.\" So, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "how we get resource for a plan B or what"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "it's going to be because I don't see an"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "attainable military objective, however"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "they want to do it. We just need to stop"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "this war and get it off the table as"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "soon as possible. Stop the bleeding,"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "stop the depletion of our our"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "inventories, and start recovering our"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "strength before we get even worse."}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:47", "text": ">> Well said. Sorry. Well, one of my"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "worries about this is that it does stop"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "a little bit easily and then the United"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "States starts the bluster back up again."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "And so, we won't stop it unless it is"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "truly deterrent."}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "And h I mean, I'm not rooting for anyone"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "to get hurt. I would very much like it"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "to end, but Israel has a an app that's"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "like Door Dash where they just order up"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "the US military and they get it. And so"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "they will do it again if we are still"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "available. How do we stop the root"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "cause?"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": ">> Well, the the only thing that I can I"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "would hope that might be different in"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "this situation if they if they did what"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "I said that it it will be self-evident"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "to everybody and I'm talking in the"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "United States. whatever the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "media wants to say to make this put a"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "good face on it. It'll be obvious to you"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "that we should never have done this that"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "we caused a lot because we have set this"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "nearly impossible set of objectives that"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "Secretary of of War Pete Hexith set out"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "today which is the destruction of their"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "long range missiles uh the destruction"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "of their uh support for all of their"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "proxies and the destruction of their"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "navy and then of course no all"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "denuclearization. If you don't"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "accomplish every one of those then you"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "are seen as a failure. No matter how"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "much you blow, how many people you kill,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "if you don't ac accomplish the mission"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "you set out, then it will be a failure."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "The Iranian side has merely to endure."}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "They all they don't have to physically"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "defeat us. They just have to not lose"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "and to remain viable entity. So, if the"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "president stops it for any reason short"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "of that, he can't claim any of those"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "things are successful. So, we'll all"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "know that it's not and that Americans"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "have died in the meantime and that our"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "regional allies are now keeping us at"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "arms. Lincoln are angry at what we've"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "done. Uh, and so there's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "lot of consequences to this. And if the"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "president's approval rating was like at"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "36% before this ever started and there"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "was already likely going to be a blue"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "wave. You add a loss like this on top of"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "it and there's a whole bunch of more"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "people that are going to be saying, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "we want somebody who's actually a a no"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "war president or no dumb war president,"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "but it's going to keep us safe, but not"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "going to get us into a war we can't"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "win.\" So, I think that there would be"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "consequences this time. Um, and and and"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "Israel itself is is suffering really"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "bad, too, because if they don't have the"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "air defense missiles, they can't keep"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "going on either. So, that app may not"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "work. They may be pushing the button,"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "but nothing's going to be happening"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "after that. Yeah, and you're right. I"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "mean, and then also the the feeling on"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "the American people like it's fine right"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "now, but once those oil prices start"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "going up and then then separately gas"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "prices start going up, natural gas"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "prices start going up. They just we just"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "got confirmation of an hour ago Iran has"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "struck an oil tanker in the street of"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "Hormuse and that is on fire and"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "destroyed. So, this is escalating"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "quickly until the American people start"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "seeing it on their televisions and"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "Americans coming home. you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "going to continue and then that'll be"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "the true measure for President Trump as"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "we head into the midterm elections."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "Like, is he gonna want this? Like, he's"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "gonna be he he campaigned on being a"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "peace president. No more Middle East"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "wars."}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": ">> And here we go again. Um, Colonel, we"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "got a few super chats if I throw them up"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "here on the screen here."}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": ">> Uh, Daniel Davis for president. Impeach"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "Trump. Mr. Wink says, \"Thank you for"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "your"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": ">> You're up, sir."}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": ">> You're up.\" Uh, um, Iranian drones."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "Daddy Crab says, \"Gee, where'd they get"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "that technology? Iran has drones.\" What"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "do you think about that on the the drone"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "piece of this? Are these the um the"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "Iranian drones that are so been so"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "sophisticated and being a real thorn in"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "their side right now? Well, listen, the"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "the Iranian drones is what the Russians"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "used initially with the Garin ones, uh,"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "you know, when there were war in even in"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "2022, they started getting a lot of that"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "and then you had dual use capabilities"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "between Iran and Russia and they started"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "exchanging technology and then as Russia"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "built up its capabilities with with Gar"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "two gar ones and then guarantes"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "I'm sure there was a lot of transfer of"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "technology over there. So the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "reg uh u missile program I'm sorry the"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "the the drone manufacturing base only"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "expanded and in increased. So they I"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "mean they're smart on their own. They"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "they're you know they're very they got a"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "lot of good scientific mind. They always"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "have in the Persian uh ind the culture."}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "Uh but now working with the Russians"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "over this time they were able to improve"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "even more. So this is part of the"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "consequence of what's going on over"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Right. I saw a funny meme. It's like, oh"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "yes, we need to liberate their women who"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "are scientists and engineers."}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "Let's go do that."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:13", "text": ">> Um, this one here from Latrina says,"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "\"Guys, I'm starting to think the"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "egoomaniac queen's real estate developer"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "wasn't the best man for the job.\" And P."}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "Walker says, \"What's wild is that there"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "are huge protests, pro-Iran gatherings"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "in Azerbaijan of all places.\" Um yeah,"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "there's pro-Iranian uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "government uh protests of course pouring"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "out in the streets of Iran, all over"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "Iran. Um mourning the loss of the"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "Ayatollah and and and shouting like"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "death to Trump for these attacks. Uh"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "this is not going this is not going"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": ">> Yeah, that regime change was"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:49", "text": ">> not so quick. Um, Colonel, great to see"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": ">> Also in Iraq, also in in Pakistan, uh,"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "and nearly anywhere there are Shia"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "Muslims. Uh, there's been a lot of"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "protest angered about the the"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "assassination of uh, the Ayatollah."}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:04", "text": ">> Colonel Daniel Davis, host of The Deep"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "Dive with Dan Davis. You got to check it"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "out. Great show. Mustwatch television on"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "a regular basis. Colonel, great. Thank"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "you for your insights and perspective as"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "always. We really appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:13", "text": ">> Thank you. Always a pleasure to be here."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "Appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": ">> Thanks, Colonel. God bless."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": ">> He's coming in hot. You know why?"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "because he can say, \"I told you so.\" And"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "he did. So,"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:23", "text": ">> yeah. Well, I love his comment about the"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "the admiral who was like, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "need to focus on that. We now need to"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "focus on the logistics phase."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:29", "text": ">> He's like, \"Start to"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:30", "text": ">> start to focus on the logistics phase"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "now. What are you out of your freaking"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "mind?\""}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:33", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:35", "text": ">> well, that what he said when he said"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "that that Rubio was said, you know,"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "otherwise we'd be here waiting for Iran"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "to attack. And I think there's something"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "telling in that that like we don't want"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "to just wait. That's boring. Like let's"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "do something like wait."}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": ">> Well, I mean, we provoked them four"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "times. four times before we got the war"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "that we wanted. So, okay, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "got it. How long are you gonna slap that"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "down?"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": ">> Coming up, we're gonna talk about"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "Iranian sleeper cells. Um, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "last administration of course had wide"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "open borders in the United States."}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "Chinese, Mexican, it didn't really"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "matter, but our borders of course were"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "flooded with tens of millions of illegal"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "immigrants pouring across the border"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "into the United States. and security"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "concerns now, at least from the intel"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "side, from DNI, that there are Iranian"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "sleeper cells inside the United States"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "which could be carrying out terrorist"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "attacks. Is this uh false flag? Is there"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "any truth to this? We're going to talk"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "about that coming up next. But first of"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "all, I don't know if you saw price of"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "gold surging once again $533 an ounce"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "this morning. Um, Eric Sprat, one of the"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "legends of the silver business, probably"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "the legend in the silver business, says"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "that he sees $300 for an ounce of"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "silver. I mean, if it it's actually"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "valued correctly, $300 an ounce for"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "silver. That's Eric Sprat saying that."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "And it could even go higher as up to"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "$500 an ounce for silver. Of course, you"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "know, silver is used in a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "weapons, by the way, and it's vaporized,"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "gone forever. So, we have, you know, an"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "an incredible demand for precious metals"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "right now. And we've been talking about"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "investing in precious metals, gold,"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "silver for years on this show. Natalie"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "and I started investing back I think"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "when gold was about $1,700 an ounce and"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "gold was in the 30s. So, at you know,"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "are you going to hopefully you're"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "protecting your families at least being"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "educated about what's coming with the US"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "dollar. It's unsustainable at this"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "point. Every expert we've talked to"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "talks about the unsustainability of the"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "US dollar. So, do you want your family's"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "future tied to that? I mean, it's up to"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "you if you do, but I'm saying like if"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "your money's sitting in a savings"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "account, that's where you hit a real"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "wall because your money is tied to a US"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "dollar. So, our friends at Lear Capital"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "can actually educate you on this. It's a"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "free phone call. Just get on the phone"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "with them and have a call and see if"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "it's a fit for you and your family to"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "start investing in gold. They're an"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "American company. You're not going to"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "get outsourced to India. You're going to"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "speak to an American and make a"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "decision. 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Maybe if you"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "got a few thousand in American dollars"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "in savings, maybe converting that to"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "precious metals. We're big believers in"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "investing in real tangible assets like"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "real estate, gold, and silver. Like"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "that's that's the top of the heap for us"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "and our family. So anyway, give them a"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "call right now. 1 8006133557."}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "Speak to an American company that will"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "help you. Gold and silver and precious"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "metals. They will send you a free gold"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "kit and you can sit down over the coffee"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "table with your loved ones and and talk"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "about it. or go to leerredacted.com is"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "the website or just get on the phone. I"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "prefer getting on the phone. Develop a"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "personal relationship with them. They're"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "a great team. So 1800 6133557."}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "Our thanks to Lear for supporting our"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "show."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": ">> Someone in our chat just said fear porn."}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "Um did we not warn you about a war with"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "Iran? Is it not happening? Is your"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "dollar not being devalued? So that's"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "Yeah, we're not fearongers. It happened."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:17", "text": ">> Like they're like, \"Oh, no. We're not"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "going to go to war with Iran. We we we"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "have started a war with Iran, FYI. I"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "don't know if you're aware that"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": ">> they are choking off international"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "energy ports. That's happening. So,"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "yeah, we're not doing this for fun. It's"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "not fun for us."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:31", "text": ">> We've been trying to stop this."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:32", "text": ">> Just Yeah, it just reminds me of that"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "like a friend of mine. I was telling"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "Clayton before the show, a friend of"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "mine like we were I was talking with"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "somebody else about, you know, and I had"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "mentioned that the Ayatollah had been"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "killed and and my my other friend who"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "just wouldn't have expected this. She"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "like, \"Oh, good. He was such a"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "troublemaker.\" And I just looked at him."}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "I was like, that that has wide reaching,"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "you know, like that's not just, oh,"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "good, we got him."}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:54", "text": ">> We kill troublemakers on a regular"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "basis."}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": ">> I want to just point out who is starting"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "all of this trouble, who strikes first,"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "who invades other countries, who's the"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "troublemaker really. I mean, I'm not for"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "the Ayatollah, but"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:09", "text": ">> you know, that's kind of a weird"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:10", "text": ">> Well,"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:12", "text": ">> perspective."}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, as as as Secretary of Ward"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "P Hegsath said, you know, we uh we were"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "responding. They started this war and we"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "were responding. And as our friend of"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "the show, Daniel McAdams from the Ron"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "Paul Institute said, \"No, you [ __ ] You"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "started this war. They did not.\" So, but"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "now we're dealing with the fallout and"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "the consequences. And one of those"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "consequences could be"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": ">> sleeper cells in the United States. Are"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "we going are they being activated? uh"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "intelligence sources at the DNI inside"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "of Washington are being told to focus on"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "counterterrorism specifically like don't"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "worry about the Iranian war, just focus"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "on"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "what's going to happen in the United"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "States, counterterrorism in the United"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "States. And are we already seeing false"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "flag attacks like that mass shooting in"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "Austin where it's convenient that that"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "person's name was being searched on"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "Google searches days before the attack"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "and he's wearing a what is it? I love"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "Allah sweatshirt."}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "Okay, so is this a false flag attack"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "designed to stoke fear or are we"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "legitimately about to see Iranian"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "sleeper cells activated in the United"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "States thanks to the last four years of"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "wide open borders in the US? We want to"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "bring in former counterterrorism officer"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "Drew Burrquist now to talk about all of"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "this who's been watching this very"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "closely. And I just want you to tell us"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "tell it to us straight Drew like I mean"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "are we are we going to see sleeper cells"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "being activated? Are you seeing any"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "signs of this from your experience in"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "counterterrorism?"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:37", "text": ">> Well, first of all, thanks for having"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "me, guys. It's good to be with you"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "again. I I think, you know, signs now,"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "not necessarily signs in the near"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "future, very possibly. This look, this"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "has been a concern of mine long before"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "we we kicked off this war with Iran. Uh"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "and and frankly, we've had sleeper cells"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "here long before the previous"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "administration, which was obviously a"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "disaster. And then that just whole that"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "whole issue was exacerbated you know"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "times a thousand. So you know long has"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "been the concern. Look these guys from"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "from working overseas all the time that"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "I did spent spend most of my adult life"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "overseas doing doing operations for the"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "government and living and breathing"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "counterterrorism and and being around"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "these guys interrogating these guys"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "going after these guys. I mean the the"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "amount of hate that they have for us is"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "actually impressive. Like you got to"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "give them some credit. like they they're"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "like they're really good haters, but but"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "that's always been the case. Now you do"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "this. Now you you kick this thing off"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "and you've got a you you've got a bunch"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "of IRGC folks. You've got a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "lone wolf type folks who are maybe not"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "as organized and and as connected to"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "IRGC, you know, the Iranian um Cuds"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "force, but they're all here. So I would"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "be more shocked than not if we did not"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "see some form. Am I saying that every"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "city is going to have attacks going on"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "at their their churches, their"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "synagogues, their grocery stores? No."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "Um, but this has long been a concern of"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "mine that something is going to happen."}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "I you know, the Austin thing I think is"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "an outlier. Um, and as you said, there's"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "there's some some oddness to it. But I"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "do think that there is some stuff here"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "that that you you should be at least"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "concerned about. And that should look"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "that should just getting getting ahead"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "of myself and I' I've said too much"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "already Clayton and and Ally, but like"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "you should always have your head on a"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "swivel. You should definitely have your"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "head on a swivel right now."}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:28", "text": ">> Well, right because even if it's not an"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "organized response inside the United"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "States, one of the things I was a"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "liberal at the time when the Orlando"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "Pulse nightclub shooting happened and I"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "bought the [ __ ] that it was a"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "homophobic attack. It was not. This"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "person was protesting US drone wars"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "inside Afghanistan. He was tired of"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "seeing his own people being bombed. So,"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "he took it upon himself to shoot up an"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "American location to let us all see what"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "it feels like. The press lied to us"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "about that protecting Barack Obama. But"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "it did in fact inspire radical"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "responses. We can't blame that on any"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "religion. We can't blame it on"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "homophobia. It happens. And so some"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "[ __ ] on X are trying to fight with"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "me and say, \"Well, we really do need to"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "go after radical Islam.\" We are"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "inspiring it and that will bring"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "consequences"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "if you I just said what I think. Why"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "don't you say what you think? Sorry."}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:25", "text": ">> No, I think you're absolutely right. I"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "mean, here here's the problem with the"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "the GWAT, you know, our whole global war"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "on terror and and it and it goes back"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "before that, right? like that. Global"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "war and terror doesn't happen with with"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "without some spats between America and"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "jihadists and extremists before that."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "But the the problem with this is look"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "the Ayatollah the moolas terrible"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "people. Like I'm glad Kmeni is dead."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "Like that's great. Like he should be"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "dead. He's not a good person."}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "But the problem is which which is hard"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "for for people to understand unless"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "you've been in and you don't have to"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "have been in it to understand this but"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "is with you know we saw it firsthand. We"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "go and kill some dude who's a mid-level"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "target maybe he's an HVT in Iraq or"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "His kids are now extremists. We will see"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "his kids in 10 to 20 years. Like this"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "cycle never stops. So it's a really"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "tough that that's that's where this"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "thing is so complicated. This is not,"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "you know, United States versus a big"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "state actor in Russia or China."}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:30", "text": ">> This is this is an ideology against an"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "ideology. And every time you and we"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "would do the same thing, too, right? And"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "I'm not justifying what what radical"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "jihadists do."}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": ">> But if you kill my father, I'm coming"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "for you. And and that's that's the"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "bottom line. Like like that's just how"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "it's going to go. And that's how this"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "cycle continues. And the same thing is"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "true with look, there's there's some"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "good things being done right now."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "There's some bad things being done right"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "now, too. Like, I think that we could we"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "could handle this better. But at the end"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "of the day, when you target another"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "country who has people who hate us, who"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "already hated us, but certainly hate us"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "now in our country, there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "repercussions. And the same thing"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "remains true for for stuff that we're"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "doing with the cartels. Now you you go"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "after you go after cartels in Mexico or"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "in South and Central America. They also"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "have people here. You run the risk of it"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "doesn't mean it's a guarantee, but you"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "run the risk of when you do this or"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "that. And and that's a a costbenefit"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "analysis that someone's got to run and"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "hopefully they've done these numbers and"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "metrics."}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "You where you start to see some stuff"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "here in America that, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "experienced overseas in war zones and we"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "expected there, but but the American"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "people aren't expecting or wanting to"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "see here. and and you you can't blame"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "them,"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:42", "text": ">> right? Again, I've talked about how"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "because it's over there, we're"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "desensitized to it. It's like I've said"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "this multiple times. It's my it's my"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "chicken at the grocery store analogy,"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "but you know, it's a nice piece of"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "chicken breast in cellophane. People"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "don't see the butchering process of it,"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "right? So, there we are desensitized to"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "it until poor body bags start arriving"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "here at home or we see terrorist"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "attacks. I spoke to a senior level"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "Customs and Border Patrol uh official"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "today who said you can't let in over"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "200,000 special interest aliens and not"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "have large numbers of terrorists. 60 to"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "70% of the 12 million illegals that"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "Biden let in were single adult"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "military-aged males."}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "Let me put it this way. If I woke up"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "tomorrow to learn 50 cities were on fire"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "from terrorist attacks in the United"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "States, I would shrug my shoulders and"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "say, \"Of course.\" Right? Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "Absolutely. It's it's it's the outcome"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "anyone with a brain would expect. And"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "here's the thing too that you like I"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "don't think enough people put enough"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "emphasis on is we've seen how the"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "American public responds to to crisis."}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "You know, whether you go back to I mean"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "you look back I always use the DC sniper"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "case as an example. That whole it was"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "regional. Yes. But like that whole"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "region shut down. If you have terror"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "attacks, you have you have a dude"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "clacking off in a grocery store and"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "someone in a bookstore here and a church"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "there and they're and this is happening"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "across the country."}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "The United States of America will not"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "respond well to that. Like it will not"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "go well. So there's a lot of rahrh going"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "on right now. We're the best military in"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "the world. Hell yes we are. We're we're"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "freaking awesome. Like and and they're"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "doing some good things. But you've got"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "to understand that with that comes the"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "potential for this. And I think that's"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "that's, you know, as someone who lived"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "and breathed this world for a long time"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "and as a father and a husband now,"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "that's my biggest concern. And again,"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "I'm not saying I'm all for or all"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "against all of this. I'm just saying"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "when I see this stuff happens, my first"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "response is, \"Oh crap.\" Like, there's"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "going to be some crazy stuff that"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "happens now in this country that people"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "aren't prepared for."}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, you can only punch"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "someone's, you know, in the face so many"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "times before they're going to wind up"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "and and clock you with a big uppercut at"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "some point, you know. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:59", "text": ">> But there's a large swath of us now"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "immediately"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "my people on X. Anytime we see something"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "we're like false flag, false flag. We we"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "just don't know, right? And but there's"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "also a larger contingency that are don't"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "live online like me who might believe"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "it. Where do we There's there's"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "somewhere in the middle that we need to"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "live and I don't know how to do that."}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "Maybe I need to get off the internet."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": ">> I wish we all could, right? That would"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "be that would be the thing cuz it"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "honestly the the answer typically is in"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "the middle."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": ">> And the problem is is you get online and"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "you hear these two extremes and then"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "they get dumped into your algorithm"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "because that's what you see and you just"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "you see those two things and it's like"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "most people really aren't there. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "it but it is it's like the truth is"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "usually in the middle. Again, Iran is"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "bad. Us attacking Iran has some"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "benefits, but it also has some massive"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "drawbacks, too. And to to think that"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "there's none and we're just going to end"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "this is is very naive and I would say"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "foolish in thinking. And and and and I"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "also think you can execute it the right"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "way and have it it go a certain way"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "still with some possible and likely"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "ramifications here at home. What I'm"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "really curious about this whole thing is"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "is how we handle the back end because"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "America tends to get into a lot more"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "stuff on the back end after the we're"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "great at bombing and killing people."}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "That part's easy. it's what happens"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "after that. And you know, from an"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "overseas geopolitical perspective,"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "that's that's where I'm really concerned"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "and curious to see where things go. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "and I guess we'll I guess the proof will"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "be in the pudding. We'll see here in"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:32", "text": ">> No, you bring up a great point that was"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "going to be my final question, Drew,"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "which is the back end now, which is the"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "United States. We know that uh, you"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "know, officers and the the DNI are being"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "told, focus on counterterrorism here in"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "the United States. Like, don't worry"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "about what's happening in Iran. Focus."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "keep singularly focused on this"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "counterterrorism operation in the US."}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "From your experience, like what does"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "that look like? Like what are those what"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "are you know what are the phone calls"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "look like right now inside of like the"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "counterterrorism offices in the United"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "States? Well, I think that you've got"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "threat profiles that are always there in"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "in the different JTTFs, JTTFs that are"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "across the country, you know, which"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "combine intel, FBI, local law"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "enforcement, a bunch of different"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "agencies, joint terrorism task forces"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "across Okay."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": ">> Yes. Joint Terrorism Task Force. So,"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "you've always got those operating. The"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "problem is is as as a country, you know,"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "where we go wrong so often is we're"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "really good at focusing on one or two"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "shiny balls at a time. And if if if a"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "big thing such as the effort like the"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "JTFs should never be shut down. They"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "should always be ongoing because again,"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "we've got an ideology and a large I"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "mean, we're talking the largest group of"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "people on the planet. Not all of them"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "are bad, but you've got a portion of the"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "largest group of people on the planet"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "who who absolutely despise us. So, and"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "obviously we've done some things to"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "fester that hatred. So, you you've"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "always got to have that going. But at at"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "any rate, like the these guys have"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "always been doing this. Now, there's"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "some extra emphasis on it. Um, I I don't"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "think that changes a whole lot other"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "than it's just the the problem is is you"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "you brought up we've discussed already"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "multiple times in this this discussion"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "The the US government is only so capable"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "like our like look our intel who who"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "found the locations of the 49 whatever"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "the number of leaders is that we killed"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "and some of the key installations. great"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "job. Like really good job, bangup job on"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "on executing"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "some of these folks and some of these"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "targets because you had to have all that"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "dialed in before you're you're going to"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "do that. But back home when people come"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "in and you have the influx, we were we"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "were not good at it before. And then you"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "add the influx under the Biden"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "administration. Like there's no fidelity"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "on where a lot of these people are or"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "who they are because we have systems and"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "databases that get get thrown for a loop"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "when someone's name spelled wrong. And"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "guess what? an American spelling, you"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "know, a Middle Easterners's name and"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "doing it phonetically correct or"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "phonetically the same every time doesn't"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "happen. So, you end up having all these"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "things slip through the cracks and then"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "you bring in a a crap ton of people. So,"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "they're they're doing their their their"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "everyday thing and it's maybe it's"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "ramped up now and it should be ramped up"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "now, but again, you're like you're"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "you're you're kind of playing blind like"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "you've been like, \"Hey, here's your"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "badge. Here's your gun. Here's your duty"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "belt. you know, here are the contacts"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "we're going to give you, but now we're"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "going to blindfold you and just kick you"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "out into your your area of operation."}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "Good luck. Because there's a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "people you don't know are here and we're"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "and as a result of that, we typically"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "are as a United States government and as"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "an intel community and even as a law"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "enforcement community very reactive."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Oh, that's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "seeing too. again speaking with CP, you"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "know, Customs and Border Patrol and"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "what's going on with some of these ICE"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "agents that have like almost no"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "experience just being thrown into trying"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "to do arrests. Like they have no"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "experience doing arrests like"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": ">> Drew, great to see you. Thank you for"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "your perspective on this. Keep your head"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "on a swivel and we should always be"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "doing that and protecting ourselves."}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "Watch out. All right, Drew, thank you so"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "much."}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> Thank you guys for having me."}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": ">> Appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:09", "text": ">> All right. How you feel about that?"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": ">> I don't know. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": ">> I'm not gonna say"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:14", "text": ">> it's a simple numbers game right now."}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "It's probability game right now, sadly,"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "when you leave, you know, tens of"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "millions of people into the United"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "States uh illegally. And he brought up a"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "great point with the cartels. I mean, so"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "you assassinate, you take out like"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "cartel leaders, like you don't think"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "you're going to see reprisals in the US,"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": ">> right? And remember, we are still"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "fighting a war in Russia, in in Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "We are still funding that war. How can"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "we afford to be vigilant and take care"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "of our own this way? It's not possible."}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> no,"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": ">> no amount of stealing oil from Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "is going to, you know, cover this gap."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:49", "text": ">> indeed. All right. 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Wallet.rumble.com rumble.com"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "is the place to go."}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "All right. Um,"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "let's see."}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "Oh, yeah. Here's a question. Oh, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "bud. You're so free. NSA CIA know when"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "you sneeze. That's right."}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:42", "text": ">> I don't think I ever thought that I was"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "free."}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:46", "text": ">> Maybe they're talking about Drew. I"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "don't know. Okay. A false flag attack."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "Luke Snow says, uh, would have been made"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "a lot bigger. You guys are a joke. I"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "guess talking about Austin. Um, well,"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "we're not saying it is a false flag"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "attack. We're just saying that there are"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "some big inconsistencies with that"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "attack. Right. Right. Wouldn't you say?"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "I mean, the fact that there were Google"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "searches for this guy's name ahead of"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:08", "text": ">> Yeah. And anytime there's like a big"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "t-shirt signaling this is what I'm doing"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "this for, we're like, okay, you know,"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "again, questions. We have questions. We"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "still don't have"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:16", "text": ">> accurate information about Charlie"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "Kirk's assassination. So, how can we"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "know anything that the government tells"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "us about this in two days? Uh, okay."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "from increased blood pressure. I'm with"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "you. With you, dude. Uh, the mad man"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "Mark Levin reported on Fox News that"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "Iran had nukes that could strike"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "mainline US. Oh, that's right. What was"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "the rest of that? How many disappear how"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "many people only get their Yeah, believe"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "that because they only get their news"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "from Fox. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "if you believe that uncatategorically,"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "you did no research behind it,"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:47", "text": ">> right? Well, and how does a guy like"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "that have a job? Like if I was on Fox"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "News, he's every tweet he's like calling"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "for the death of human beings, right?"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": ">> Like if I was when I"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:56", "text": ">> I worked at Fox News. If I was taking to"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "Twitter and calling for like the"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "assassination of people on world, I"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "probably would lose my job."}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:03", "text": ">> Like I would excuse me. I would have"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "been fired,"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:06", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": ">> But they're like, \"It's fine. It's Mark"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "Leven, you know, do whatever.\""}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": ">> We want this, too. So, okay. Uh Luke"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "Snow says, \"This channel loves the ayah"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "ola and where they stand for.\" Thank you"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "for that great sentence. You love"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "English."}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> We love terrorism. We We love terrorism."}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Love terrorism and and we love the"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "'the'"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": ">> the the the IRGC. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:33", "text": ">> You know nothing, Luke Snow."}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:35", "text": ">> Thank you, Luke. But uh thank you for"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "your grammar. We really appreciate that."}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "And yeah, I think that's we got all the"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "rest of them here. Um,"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "any other ones you want to touch on? No."}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "I think"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:47", "text": ">> um, looking good. Test message. Thank"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "you to Bob."}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> Maddie England. Oh, yeah. Aspartame and"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "other sweeteners can cause migraines."}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "That's right."}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:53", "text": ">> Yes, that's right."}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": ">> We were talking about migraining earlier"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "in the show. And BB is in Germany."}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "People saying in the chat room, BB is in"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "Germany."}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:00", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. But he keep he released a"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "video where he's like on top of a"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "building inside of inside of uh Tel"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "Aviv. So, you wonder if like he filmed a"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "bunch of videos ahead of time, like he"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "got a bunch of content in the can"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "possibly before he flew to Berlin"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": ">> or if he's a clone."}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": ">> It could be like Jim Carrey. Um, well,"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "thank you guys. Oh, by should mention,"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "please subscribe to the channel. It's"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "totally free to subscribe if you're not"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "already a subscriber here. Just hit that"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "follow button um on uh X, YouTube, and"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "Rumble. It's totally free. Thank you"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "guys. We'll be back here tomorrow at 400"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "p.m. Eastern time for our live show. As"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "always, have a great night everybody."}]

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This"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "is not going to be over in 4 days, which"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "is what the administration would like"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "you to believe or that Israel would like"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "you to believe with this massive sorty"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "of American ships and Israeli aircraft."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "This is not going to be over in short"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "order. In fact, we are now seeing the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "fruits of that. The streets of Hormuse"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "being closed, an energy infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "war that could be devastating to the US"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "economy. What will happen on Monday as"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the markets open and the US dollar"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "continues to tank?"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "All of those questions are on the table."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "And then, of course, at the heart of it"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "are all of the lives that will be lost"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "in this war. I just had a chance to sit"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "down with former UN weapons inspector"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Scott Ritterder who says we will not win"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "this war and Iran is prepared for many"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "years of fighting this out. This will"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "not be over in just a few days. And"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Scott should know he of course tried to"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "warn all of us about what was what was"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "going to happen against Iraq. millions"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "of people ended up dead and he warned"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "all of us and sat in front of Congress"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "and and told members of Congress, Saddam"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Hussein does not have weapons of mass"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "destruction. So, of course, the pretext"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "for this war is that Iran is enriching"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "uranium in order to build nuclear"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "weapons. Our own CIA on multiple"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "occasions have confirmed that that's not"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "true. Even our own head of DNI, Tulsi"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Gabbard, said that's not true. And by"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "all accounts, there's no evidence at all"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "that that's true. But don't let facts"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "get in the way of this. So, here now is"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "a few minutes with Scott Ritter as he"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "talks about the it's an impossible task"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "for the United States and Israel to"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "actually win a war against Iran. Watch."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> We're at war. Uh it's a regional war."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "It's a war that, you know, is going to"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "have consequences"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "um that will impact the American public."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Um the Straight of Hormuz has been"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "closed. um you know this is"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "unprecedented and uh you know it it it"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "is the beginning of an economic phase of"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "this conflict. This is also a conflict"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "that um it appears those who started it"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "didn't understand what they were getting"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "into and uh Iran has been fully prepared"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "uh for this eventuality. The"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "decapitation strike did not decapitate."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Um the Iranian people are not in the"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "streets demanding the overthrow of the"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "government. Just the opposite. They're"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "in the streets rallying in support of"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the government. Um and the war plan has"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "gone arai from the start. Uh you know"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "this was a war that the J, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "joint chief of staff told the president,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "we don't have the resources to fight and"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "win. Um they tinkered with the war plan"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "uh anyways and they went forward. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "when you're trying to accomplish a lot"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "with limited resources, if uh if if the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "war plan goes out of sync up front,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "which this one has, remember this war,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "this mission that we're on is predicated"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "on decapitation. We have lost this war"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> in 10 hours in in about 10 to 12 hours."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> We lost this war the moment we fired"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "missiles against Iran because we don't"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "have a plan that can be implemented and"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "we are going to run out of ammunition."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "This is what the generals told the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "admiral that was fired"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> u from the joint chiefs of staff told"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "the president we don't have the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "resources to do this war. If you do this"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "we're going to lose."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> Uh intercepts have just named this"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "operations lion's roar"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> 200 jets 500 targets"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the largest sort in Israeli air force"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "history and they called it the genesis"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "as the opening strike. So this is just"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "the beginning of all of this. So maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "militarily, Scott, you can take us"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "through what we see next. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "speculation about using some of the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "lesser advanced weapons to sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "overwhelm air defense systems and, you"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "know, Iran saying that you haven't even"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "seen what we have our capabilities yet."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "What do you expect to unfold over the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "next 24- 48 hours?"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Well, first of all, there's some talk"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "out of the US military that um the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "initial phase of this campaign is a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "4-day"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "um campaign, day and night. So you're"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "what if that's the case what we're going"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "to see is just non-stop um sorties"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "flying into Iran uh to you know follow"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "through on uh regime change on"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "decapitation to suppress uh Iranian uh"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "security targets to take out air defense"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "and to suppress ballistic missile launch"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "capability but according to the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "president also to strike ballistic"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "missile production capacity. Uh there"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "are various facilities near Thrron that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "appear to be being targeted by uh the"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "the United States and and by Israel. And"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "so we're we're going to be basically"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "seeing um you know"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "72 hours of um or I'm sorry 4 days 24 48"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "96 hours of um of strikes. Um and then"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "there I ostensibly would be a pause in"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "which um you know the United States"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "would be hopeful that the Iranian people"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "would rise up and remove their"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "government power while we uh rearm,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "re-equip and uh and look for new"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "targets. Uh uh but I I I I think we've"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "got this completely wrong because it"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "doesn't appear that the Iranians are um"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "are bulking, are hurt, are uh are are"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "confused, are stumbling about. uh they"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "are responding in a very forceful manner"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "and as you and um you know pointed out"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "they haven't used their best. I think"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "tonight there's some video evidence that"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "they may have fired a couple of their"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "more advanced missiles. Um you know we"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "shall see but the point is they have"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "very advanced missiles. Um and these"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "missiles will do extreme harm on the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "targets that they're aimed at. And um"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "and Iran I do believe will be victorious"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "in this war. The United States is going"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to run out of ammunition. When that"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "happens, uh, we will have to withdraw"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "from this conflict because we have no"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "ability to continue this conflict. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and we lose all leverage over Iran. At"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "that point in time, Israel is going to"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "be physically defeated uh, in this"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "conflict. This is a war of existential"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "proportions. Um, I don't believe that"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the United States is going to be able to"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "pick up the phone and have this war"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "stop. I believe uh Iran will has already"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "gotten the upper hand and will continue"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "to uh apply force effectively against"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Israel, the United States and the Gulf"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Arab states to the point that when a"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "diplomatic solution um is arrived at and"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "I do believe that Russia and China are"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "going to be pushing for diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "solution um you know peace will break"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "out but peace that is acceptable to to"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Iran which means that for the first time"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "people are going to have to sit down,"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "shut up, and listen to the Iranians and"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "what they want. And they don't want a"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "nuclear weapon. The Iranians are smart."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "They've been preparing for this conflict"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "since 2005. Throughout Iran, there's a"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "system of uh caverns dug into the side"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "of mountains and hills where this"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "material has been evacuated. Uh there"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "are alternative evacuation sites. Um you"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "know, Israel is talking about hitting"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "what did you say? 500 targets or"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> 500 targets was the Yeah, 200 aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "500 targets."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "operation,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> but the Iranians have created an"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "additional 1500 targets by dispersing"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "this, and they will continue to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "disperse. Now, we're in an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "game where you have to collect"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "intelligence and evaluate intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "and identify targets and then put"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "together a target strike package and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "strike the targets before the enemy"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "actually re-evacuates. Uh, the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "aren't going to be staying in one place."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "They're going to be moving. Unless"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Israel controls the skies for 24 hours,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "they won't be able to interdict. This is"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "a losing proposition for Israel. Iran"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "was ready for this. They um and the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "important thing is that in being"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "prepared for this, they apparently"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "prepared in a way that didn't tip off"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "their preparation to Israel and the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "United States because we would not have"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "launched this strike unless we had a"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "high degree of confidence that the the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "targets we were hitting would be um in"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "fulfillment of the mission that we put"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "forth. uh we wouldn't waste all of these"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "extremely high uh value, very expensive"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "precision munitions in the first wave of"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "the attack just to strike empty"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "buildings because that it appears is"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "what we hit. A bunch of empty buildings"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "with a significant amount of collateral"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "damage for um Iranian civilians, but"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "almost zero impact on the target sets"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "that we're trying to um to eradicate."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "This is a war of choice. It's not a war"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "of necessity. And therefore it makes it"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "an illegal war of aggression. And I'll"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "just pound this point home all over"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "again because people hear that term and"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "they roll their eyes. This is what we"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "voted for. They said, you know, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "really give a damn what you voted for."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "What I care about is the Constitution of"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "the United States of America. And this"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "war operates in total contravention of"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the Constitution. In total contravention"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "of the United Nations Charter."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> By all accounts, he's absolutely right."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "I mean, some sobering news from a former"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "UN weapons inspector who tried to warn"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "everyone about Saddam Hussein and of"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "course about the lack of weapons of mass"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "destruction, but you know, members of"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Congress never paid attention to it."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Those corrupt politicians didn't listen."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Millions of people died as a result of"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "it. And of course now we are facing the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "same reality in the United States with"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the straits of Hormone being closed, the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "US dollar"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "collapsing. And we are right now on a"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "precipice of disaster. But gold silver"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "prices surging as we speak today."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Countries by the way in the Far East"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "shutting down the ability to transact in"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "gold and silver like to uh to buy gold"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "and silver. In fact, here's an example."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "One bank in Thailand issuing this people"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "trying to buy up as much as they can."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "This is a Thailand bank saying sorry due"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "to the Iran Israel war all gold"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "transactions right now being halted due"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "to this volatility. So things are about"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "to get very real. So that's the news"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "update part of today's video. Now I want"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "to tell you about today's sponsor which"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "is tied directly to the silver demand"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "that we're seeing. I mean silver was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "made for this moment with the US dollar"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "collapsing and what is happening in this"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "regional war right now. So, gold and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "silver are reasserting their real roles"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "as people are trying to acquire it."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Silver is up 33% since February 6th when"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "it bottomed at $68 an ounce after that"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "massive liquidation. It was at $121 an"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "ounce. Look at the mining sector right"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "now. I mean, how can any hedge fund"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "manager stay on the sidelines with this?"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "We're going to see some legendary wealth"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "created in silver stocks in my view."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Just look at companies we've featured on"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "this channel in the past few years."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Look at these breakouts and they're"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "hitting new all-time highs. Here are two"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "incredible pieces of data right now that"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "show us the potential upside that is"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "still intact and remains with precious"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "metals. And you know, watch what happens"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "this week. Gold still covers only 3% of"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "government debt right now. To go back to"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "the 1980 ratio, gold would need to be"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "priced for over $25,000"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "an ounce. In 1968 and the year 2000, the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "two previous times the US equities were"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "this overvalued, silver soared 2500%."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "And 1,200% in the decade that followed."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "So what is going to happen this time?"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "One billionaire who called the 2000"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "silver market is Mr. Eric Sprat. You"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "know him. He's a legend. He stands as"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "one of the most legendary figures in"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "precious metals investing. Now to me his"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "name is synonymous with unwavering"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "conviction in gold and especially"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "silver. Now he founded SPAT asset"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "management growing it into a global"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "powerhouse managing billions in precious"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "metals focused funds including some of"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "the world's largest physical silver"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "trusts and he now predicts that silver"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "could reach $150 to $300 plus in this"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "cycle."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> I can believe that the it it's gold"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "silver should go back to 15. Okay. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "only mined at 8:1,"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": ">> right? It's in the earth's crust at like"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "10 or 11 to1. Why the hell should it"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "should it have traded at 100 to1 and"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "it's already down at what 67 68 to 1. I"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "think it's going right to 151 to 15."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Okay. So, let's say if the gold price is"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "4,500, which is near makes the the the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "calculation easy. Silver should be at"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "$300. That's where it should be. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "without a physical shortage. Okay. Now"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "we throw the physical shortage on top"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "and the shortage of silver stocks to"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "buy. I mean it just the runway is so"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "wide open that uh I can see nothing but"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "clear sailing for silver. It might have"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "ties when it gets beat up. And I always"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "find it hilarious watching uh silver"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "trade on the comx and you know they have"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "these 10-minute bursts to the downside."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> Bang bang bang bang bang."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> And a half an hour later it's right back"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "up there. So I looked at which companies"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "that Eric Sprat is a shareholder of"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "where the main metal is silver. I mean a"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "pure play on silver and there are very"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "few of those. Eric Sprat owns roughly 4%"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "of cinney silver. So here is their"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "ticker symbol on your screen right now."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "That's the sponsor of today's video and"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "that is the ticker symbol right there."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "And this is our newest pure play silver"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "for 2026. And Eric has been holding the"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "position for seven years now. Seven"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "years. So the ticker symbol is K O YF."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "It's available on all the big brokerages"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "like Schwab, Fidelity, Interactive"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Brokers, Erade. Now back in mid2025 when"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "silver's price was half of what it is"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "today, these two analysts published"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "these price targets for Coupney Silver."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Research Capital had a Canadian uh"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "dollar amount of $2.70 a share. Redcloud"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "had it with Canadian dollar amount of"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "$320"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "a share. Now that's equivalent to"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "roughly $2 US. Now today with silver up"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "more than 100% since this was published."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "KF"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "those shares are $140."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "So conduct your due diligence on Kney"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "Silver guys which owns four silver"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "projects containing one of the largest"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "resources of any junior explorer."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "Quney silver is my number one pure"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "silver play for 2026 because of the"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "following catalysts. So Quney silver"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "owns four silver deposits. Quality"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "silver assets are scarce as you know yet"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "silver owns four of them. A staggering"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "223 million ounces of silver equivalent"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "in the measured and indicated category"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "and an additional 111 million ounces"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "silver equivalent in the inferred"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "category. Now the physical shortage and"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "the deficits are mounting as well. Right"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "now the global silver market has entered"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "its sixth consecutive year of structural"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "deficit with the 2026 shortfall"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "projected at 67 million ounces. So this"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "is a chronic imbalance right now and it"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "follows that massive 2025 deficit of 149"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "to 230 million ounces contributing to an"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "accumulated gap of nearly 900 million"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "ounces since 2021."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Now, James McDonald, Coupney Silver's"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "president and CEO, is definitely ready"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "for this bull market in commodities."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Check this out. James McDonald, now CEO"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "of Coupney Silver, played a pivotal role"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "in creating Alamos Gold, which is a"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "company that delivered quadrupledigit"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "returns during the early to mid 20000s"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "gold bull market. Now, from its"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "inception in 2003 through 2012, the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "company's share price soared"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "dramatically, rising from penny stock"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "levels sub $1 in 2023 20, excuse me,"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "2003 to well over 10 to $15 by the early"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "2010s peak. Multi,000% gains for early"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "shareholders. Now, Coupney Silver is a"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "pure silver play. The company is"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "positioned so well for this bull market"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "with James McDonald leading it in my"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "opinion. And in 2020, still a full two"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "years before the company's most"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "successful drill hole, which was done on"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "September 8th, 2022,"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Eric Sprat bought shares for $4"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Canadian, double their current price."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Double the current share price. So"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "today, the price is half of what he paid"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "for it. The legend Eric Sprat. So in"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "2025, Eric added even more shares."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "So I'll show you the black and white"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "mathematical valuations in a second. You"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "know, these are this is information"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "extracted from publicly disclosed"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "filings. You can look them up yourself."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "So, as you can see, as of January 1st,"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "2026, when comparing between various"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "silver companies, their enterprise value"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "divided by the size of their resource,"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "we see that Coutney Silver is priced at"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "only 36"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "per ounce of silver equivalent, where"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the average of these 15 companies is"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "$2.18"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "an ounce. Again, this is information"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "extracted from publicly disclosed"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "filings. In February of 2026, Coupney"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Silver with its market cap of $188"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "million Canadian is scheduled to drill"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "about $70,000 meters in the coming 12"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "months. That's $2,600"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "of market cap for every meter that it's"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "drilling. I love that. So, as you can"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "see, no other silver company has so much"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "drilling planned and underway with that"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "low of a market cap. So, guys, research"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "Coutney Silver and do your own homework"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "on it. do your own due diligence on it."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "I'll have links in the description below"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "so you can dive more deeply because we"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "are in a silver bull market that is"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "front and center right now. So, I know"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "that this is my number one pure silver"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "play for 2026, bar none. So, again,"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "we'll have links in the description,"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "guys. Do your own homework on this"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "company and we'll see you next"}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "All right. Well, for decades, the US"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "government has warned that Iran is on"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "the brink of reigniting its nuclear"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "weapons and that they are a threat to"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "America. Uh, we've heard this before in"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "the early 2000s during the Obama years"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "um under the first Trump administration"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "and again under President Biden. Now,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the language changes slightly. The"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "urgency is always eminent though. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "always right there, right? Like right"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "around the corner. You're going to blink"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "and it's going to be there and there's"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "always new proof. Here yesterday is Vice"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "President Jade D Vance saying again he"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "has fresh intelligence that Iran does"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "have a renewed nuclear program. We blow"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "it up 6 months ago, but I have new"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "evidence that it's back. It's like"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "herpes watch."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. If"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "they try to rebuild the nuclear weapon,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "that's that causes problems for us. And"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "in fact, we've seen evidence that they"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "have tried to do exactly that. So the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "president sending those negotiators to"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "try to address that problem. As the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "president has said repeatedly, he wants"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "to address that problem diplomatically."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "But of course, the president has other"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "options as well. Okay. Now, fresh intel."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "This video is also going viral this"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "week. This is a compilation of two"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "decades of Israeli Prime Minister"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Netanyahu saying that Iran has a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "program and it's weeks, if not months,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "away. Watch. If not stopped, Iran could"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "produce a nuclear weapon in a very short"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "time. It could be a year."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> They have the wherewithal, the stored"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "up, preserved knowledge to make a bomb"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "very quickly, uh, if they want to do it."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Iran is so dangerous. Weeks away from"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "having the file material for an entire"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "arsenal of nuclear bombs."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> They're very close. They're 6 months"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "away from being about 90% of having the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "rich uranium for an atom bomb. Iran is"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "gearing up to have to produce 25 bombs,"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "atomic bombs a year, 250 bombs in a dec."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> Iran will be capable of producing alone"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "without importing anything nuclear bombs"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "within 3 to 5 years."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> Once Saddam has nuclear weapons, the"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "terror network will have nuclear"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "weapons. Next thing you'll see is a"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "nuclear bomb in the World Trade Center."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "If you take out Saddam, Saddam's regime,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "I guarantee you that it will have"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "enormous positive reverberations on the"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "region."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> It's been so great."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> It's been amazing."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> it's been unbelievable how well it's"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "gone since."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Can we hold him to that promise? Is that"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "possible?"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> No, you can't hold him to that promise."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "No. And when is a journalist and"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "actually"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> if I got to sit down with Netanyahu,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "that would literally be the first video"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "I would show him. Of course, he would"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "never do our show, but that would be the"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "first video that I would show him. like"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "you you've repeatedly said this and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "you've led us into the you've led us"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "down this this trail repeatedly. It's it"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "hasn't come to fruition. When is that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "going to change?"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Is this your great vision of"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "positive things in the Middle East? Is"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "this it? We're here cuz I don't think"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "this is so fun. It's not fun for me. Uh"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "now I want to remind you that during the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Bush administration, George W. Bush, the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "US launched the world's first cyber"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "weapon stuckset on Iran's nuclear"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "centrifuges, which were never proven to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "be for weapons, but they still did it."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Bush left office and Obama said, \"I got"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "it.\" He took the baton and kept this"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "cyber weapon going. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "bipartisan, the attack on Iran. And in"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "fact, Obama's State Department then went"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "on to sanction Iran into oblivion while"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "all the while trying to prove that Iran"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "had a nuclear bomb to justify it. One of"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "his demonic officials bragged about it"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "in this evil book. If you'd like to, you"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "know, get really mad, read this. In"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "eight years, they inflicted suffering on"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "innocent civilians in Iran. They weren't"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "able to get the same medicines as these"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "demonic Washington livers who can order"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "food and go to a CVS and get whatever"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "they want, but they still were"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "sanctioning Iran under the opaces that"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "they may have a nuclear program."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "President Trump now seems to be sort of"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "picking that up and saying, \"Oh yes, we"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "know nuclear program. It's like a weed."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "It's like a nuclear whack-a-ole"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "basically.\" Now, on Tucker Carlson's"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "show this week, Clayton was his guest,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "and he said that the threat of this war"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "alone is a scup. So, if you are feeling"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "that, if you're like, \"Oh my god, is it"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "coming any minute now?\" Okay, never"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "mind. It's not. Oh, wait, yes, it is."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Well, you're not alone. But this is the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "largest military buildup in the Gulf"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "since the Gulf War. So, joining us to"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "break it down today are two men with a"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "very different but deeply informed"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "perspectives. We have uh Colonel Douglas"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "McGregor and former CIA officer John"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Kuryaku. Thank you gentlemen for coming."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Now I want to ask you this question and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "I think we'll start with Colonel Mack if"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "you don't mind. Given how unpopular this"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "war is, how unwilling Americans are to"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "go along with it. How much would it cost"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "us in lives and money given all of that?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Politico is now reporting that the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Pentagon wants Israel to strike first in"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "order. They they can't the US can't be"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "first blood because it's so unpopular."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Now, this seems to me an admission that"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "they know that Iran will not strike"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "first. So, why are we so trigger-happy,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Colonel? What is the reality of how the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "US military would fare in an actual war"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "against Iran?"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Well, obviously this is more evidence"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "that the people in Washington think"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Americans are incredibly stupid"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "because they think that somehow or"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "another by encouraging the Israelis to"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "fire the first shot that we'll"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "understand or believe instantly that uh"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "oh, we didn't do a thing and now we have"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "to because Israel's in the fight,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> Americans aren't that dumb. And I I"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "think Americans actually know this is"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "all about Israel. So, we can sit around"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "and debate the pros and cons of the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "whole thing, but you know, this this is"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "all about Israel, and it's about"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Israel's agents in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "the the collection of billionaire"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Zionists who essentially are dictating"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "policy to our government. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "I I hope you remember that the only time"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "the Democrats and Republicans all stood"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "and cheered wildly was when Mr. Trump"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "talked about attacking Iran. That seems"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to have been the unifying force because"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "that's where the money is. Who's paying"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "these people? Where is it? Where is it"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "coming from? Well, those billionaires"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "are pouring money into these people and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "they all know that if you go along with"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "it, you're going to get more money and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "if you don't, they're going to give it"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "to your uh opponent. So now, militarily,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "how will this goes? That's a real tough"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "call. You know, I've been looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Larry Johnson's work today. Larry put"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "together a great story involving all the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "various types of aircraft on both sides"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and the types of missiles and so forth"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "and so on. The truth is this"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "uh this is a big country very large."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "They have a lot of very bright capable"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "people. This is not a backward"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "uh desert waste disposal plant. This is"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "a serious country with a long and"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "distinguished history. These people are"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "not going to surrender. They're not"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "going to submit to Israeli hegemony on"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "the basis of our threats. So, they're"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "going to fight. What have they got? They"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "have an almost an exhaustable arsenal of"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "missiles, and at least 2,000 of them"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "fall into the theater ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "category. Maybe a few less, but it's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "close to 2,000. Then they have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "other medium-range ballistic missiles,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "cruise missiles. Some of these are of a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "relatively new variety from China. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "including missiles designed to attack"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "and demolish or even sink ships. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "range though of course is an issue and"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "the radars are an issue. We know that"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the Chinese have provided some very new"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "state-of-the-art radars that"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "theoretically can look out to 420 430"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "miles and even identify stealth aircraft"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "at that range. On the other hand, we"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "have extraordinary aircraft. There's no"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "question about it. This is the largest I"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "think uh collection of modern aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "fifth generation and fourth generation"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "that the world has ever seen. This these"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "aircraft can reach out far beyond the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "normal range thanks to the weapon"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "systems they carry. We don't need to go"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "through all of them, but they have the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "capacity to destroy a number of these"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "radars at a distance, at a standoff"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "distance, but we don't know the range of"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "the missiles that will be fired at them"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "in some cases. Some of these are Russian"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "in origin, but a lot of them are also"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Chinese."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "So, to answer your question, worst case,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "uh, we could have our bases utterly"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "destroyed in the region. They may"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "actually be able to go all the way out"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "to nearly the Red Sea and beyond Israel."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "We don't know. We know that they see"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "everything. They have satellite-based"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "intelligence uh from China and and"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Russia. We also know that they have"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "agents on the ground who can pick up the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "proverbial cell phone and call. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "there are a lot of people out there that"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "are going to help them and they've got"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "lots of information. The real question"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "is how tightly integrated are these air"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "defenses? How much experience is on the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "ground? I'm told there are hundreds,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "maybe as much as many as 2,000 Chinese"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "on the ground in Iran helping the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Iranians."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> I would think that that's necessary"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "because you can't deliver some of the"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "technology that's come in within the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "last few weeks and expect these people"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "to be able to do it. Now, we have"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Americans in F-16s"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "flying for the Ukrainians, not in US"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "uniform, but they have gotten permission"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "from the national command authorities to"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "go over there and fly these aircraft on"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "the west side of the Neper. I would not"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "be surprised if there are not some"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Chinese pilots on the ground ready to"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "climb into the cockpit and fly some of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "the new aircraft that have been"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "delivered to Iran. Then, of course, you"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "have the Russians. And the Russians have"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "excellent intelligence. They've got lots"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "of ships. They've got lots of"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "submarines. I think the Chinese have"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "submarines and ships out in the area. I"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "don't know how many of are currently"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "stationed outside the straight of"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Hormuz, but there are several. All of"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "this suggests that we could take losses."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Could we have 500 casualties? Sure."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Could we have only three or 400?"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Potentially. Can we kill thousands of"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Iranians? Yes. There's no question about"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "it. So the losses the Iranians will take"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "will be disproportionate because this"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "bombing campaign, air and missile"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "campaign is is not designed to induce"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "compliance with Mr. Netanyahu's demands."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "It's designed to disintegrate the state"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "to fragment the society to induce chaos"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "in the hopes that all of this will"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "collapse like a house of cards. I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "think it'll work, but I think that's the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "real purpose behind it all. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "question is, how long can we keep it up?"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "10 days, two weeks, not too much longer."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "So, Iran's principal mission is to"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "survive. If they survive, they win."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "If they collapse like a house of cards,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "they lose."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> and we we look great if if they"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "disintegrate and collapse. But if they"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "survive,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "we looked stupid because we've thrown"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "everything in the world at them and it"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "hasn't worked."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> John, I want to get to you in a second."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "I have a nuclear question for you here"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "in the intelligence piece, but just"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Colonel on that last part here. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "what is the endgame plan? My This is"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "something that Tucker and I talked about"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "yesterday, like what what actually is"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "the long-term goal and plan? I haven't"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "heard I think you've said this before,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "but I haven't heard anyone in Washington"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "say what the long-term plan is other"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "than, you know, Lindsey Graham saying"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "kill and and regime change. Well, that's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "that's not a plan."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> The long-term strategic goal is the same"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "as it's been, I think, for almost 30"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "years, and that is to make the region"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "safe for Israel. That means to establish"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Israeli hegemony over the region. Again,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "I I think it's going to be extremely"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "difficult to do that because just within"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "the last few days, you had the former"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "prime minister Naftali announce on"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Israeli television and to the whole"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "world that if you think uh Iran is a"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "tough problem, we think that Turkey or"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Turkey is now the greatest potential"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "threat to Israel, maybe greater than"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Iran. So, I think the whole thing is"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "about we've got to beat everybody into"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "submission and and submit to uh Israel."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "That's it. That's the goal. I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "think it's attainable, but I think"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "that's the goal."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> John, I wanted to ask him about this."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "So, on the on the intelligence gathering"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "piece of this, right, you heard JD Vance"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "saying, \"We've seen evidence of this and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "that this is happening now. Their"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "nuclear program is back.\" Of course,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "you'll recall, of course, that the White"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "House issued a press release um on June"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "25th. I'm reading it right now. Iran's"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "nuclear facilities have been obliterated"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "and suggestions otherwise are fake news."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "That was the headline from the White"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "House on their you can read it right now"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "on the White House's own website. So, in"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "8 months, John, like they've completely"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "reconstituted. They're it's it's back."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "Um how do how would we know? Someone in"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "the chat room said, \"How would they know"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "unless they're there and their boots on"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "the ground?\" From an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "gathering perspective, how would we"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": ">> Because this is what the Israelis are"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "telling us."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": ">> Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> Yeah. We We've been traditionally weak"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "in terms of of boots on the ground in"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Iran, and we've long relied on the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Israelis passing intelligence to us and"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "then just treating it as as gold"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "straight from the mouth of God. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the Israelis tell us what they what they"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "want us to believe and uh and we just"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "run with it. I think that look starting"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "at the beginning"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "uh Ayatah Kamay the supreme leader"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "issued a fatwa decades ago saying that"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Iran would not build a nuclear bomb. The"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "CIA has published two, not one, but two"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "uh national intelligence estimates"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "saying that the Iranians do not have a"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "nuclear weapons program. The Israelis"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "and the United States together uh"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "released the stuckset virus which"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "destroyed uh Iran's centrifuges even if"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "they were uh spinning to uh to um to"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "enrich uranium. The the bottom line is"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "there there really is no Iranian nuclear"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "weapons program. There never has been."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "They have a nuclear program, but I"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "haven't seen any evidence, even when I"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "was still inside the CIA, to indicate"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "that they were trying to build a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "bomb. And even if they had one, they"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "don't have a delivery system for it"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "anyway. So Iran is no threat to the"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "United States. I don't believe Benjamin"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "Netanyahu when he says that it's an"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "existential threat to Israel. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Israel that's the existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Iran. Iran's not the country that has"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "had a history of attacking all of its"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "neighbors. It hasn't attacked its"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "neighbors. Israel certainly has attacked"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "its neighbors. And so this is just one"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "of those, you know, another in a long"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "line of madeup crises where the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "try to either talk us into or trick us"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "into doing their dirty work for them."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> I don't know if you know, number of co,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "you know, number of conservative"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "commentators and influencers and"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "otherwise have had their bank accounts"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "shut down. 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We are not going to wear any effing"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "yellow ribbons. We're not falling for"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "that again. How are they going to do"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "this? And keeping in mind that the sale"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "of that, the propaganda of that came"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "from the Pentagon. And that's why I'd"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "like to ask you, Colonel, how can they"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "possibly do this now that we just see"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": " coming out of their mouth?"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": ">> Well, two things. First of all, Natalie,"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "I'm shocked. I thought you were in"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "kindergarten in the mid 90s."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> I was in middle school during But I"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "remember it."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": ">> We wore it on backpacks."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": ">> The way I heard it from Mars and how you"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "met, you know, it's kind of scary."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> She's pushing 50. I'm telling you, man."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "She might look I'm 47 and a half,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "actually. She's got a cherubic face."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": ">> On Saturday, I'll be 47 and a half. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "my half birthday."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> And another quick point, and John knows"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "this from his experience, I'm sure."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "Presidents get the generals they want,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "and presidents get the intelligence they"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "want."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> We need to keep that in mind. If you"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "don't like the intelligent assessment"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "that was just delivered, you tell them"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "to go back and do it again and bring it"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "back when it says what I want you to"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "want it to say. So, uh, that that's a"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "per permanent problem. Uh look, th this"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "whole thing is a catastrophe and I think"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "President Trump is running an enormous"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "risk. This is not something the American"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "people want and are prepared to support."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "This country today is radically"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "different from what it was in 1990."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "I remember when uh you know we deployed"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "to the desert in 1990, we came back in"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "1991."}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "There there was this sort of outpouring"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "of pride, satisfaction and happiness"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "that we had erased frankly the the stain"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "of dishonor from Vietnam. Not because of"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "the things that we did there. We did a"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "lot of things wrong but because people"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "were disappointed that we lost. You"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "know, Natalie, I don't see that here at"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "all right now. People are saying, \"Wait"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "a minute. What happened in Minnesota?"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "You you went there. You were challenged"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "by the governor. You packed it in. You"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "surrendered. You left. You can't do"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "that. This is a war we have to win"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "inside the United States. We must"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "enforce federal law. You've done a good"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "job thus far on the border, but you"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "haven't stopped all the human"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "trafficking and and the drugs. Look at"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Mexico. It's a catastrophe. We have to"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "protect ourselves from that. What are we"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "doing? You know, these are the things"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "Americans voted for President Trump to"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "do and they they haven't done it. So, I"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "I agree with you. I don't think this is"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "marketable. at all. And if we were to"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "take sudden losses, substantial losses,"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "I think the pressure would be to cut"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "bait and get out. People are saying,"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "\"What are we doing this for anyway?\" The"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "danger is that we we suffer terrible"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "reputational damage around the world."}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "All on on in the belief that not only"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "are we making the the region safe for"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "the Israelis, we're also attacking China"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "by attacking Iran. After all, Iran"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "supplies all this oil. And if the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "Straits of Hormuz close, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "destroy the global financial system. You"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "know, I I don't see an upside to this at"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "all. But it's very clear. I just got"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "this recent bulletin in. These talks are"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "over. There can be no compromise. Well,"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "gee, I I'm so shocked that WhitF and"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Kushner could not bring the Iranians to"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "their knees. This is absurd."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": ">> Well, that's bit of breaking news. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "the talks are off now. Well, the Wall"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "Street Journal is reporting that most of"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "the conditions were rejected. But then"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "we saw this from the um crown prince of"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "Oman who mitigated some of the talks"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "saying that there will be technical"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "discussions next week. Do we have that"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "tweet? Yeah. Can we put that up? They"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "called it progress. The United States"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "says they are disappointed. That's sort"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "of what they're supposed to do. They're"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "saying next week we'll have more"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "technical discussions in Vienna. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "I mean this is this is tedious."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": ">> May I add something to that,"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": ">> please? I just got off of an interview"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "uh with al-mayadin, the Lebanese"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "network, and the person that was the"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "other guest uh was the head of the"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Iranian uh nuclear negotiating team and"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "he said the same thing. He said that"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "that they are going to have to go to"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "technical talks because um because the"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "US just won't budge on what really is"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "the Israeli position that Iran not be"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "permitted to have any ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "uh missiles at all and that they have to"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "cut off all ties to um the Houthis in"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "Yemen, Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "southern Lebanon. Those are non-starters"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "for the Iranians. So what these"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "technical talks are going to be are"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "how to to what extent the Iranians can"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "enrich uranium. Will it be as low as"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "2.6%"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "or as high as 35%. Or something in the"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "middle. The Israeli position is no"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "enrichment whatsoever. And the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "position is we're going to enrich to"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "something below weapons grade, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "for use in in medical research, for"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "example, but that the enriched uranium"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "will remain in Iran. It will not be sent"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "to Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates,"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "or Turkey, all of which have been"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "proposed. You know, I'm I'm usually an"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "overly optimistic guy. I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "optimistic about this. So I want to"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "follow up then John with what Natalie"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "mentioned about the sale of this war"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "because to the colonel's point we're not"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "buying it you know on the military and"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "the American people aren't buying it but"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "close to 80% of Americans don't want to"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "have anything to do with a war in Iran"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "and so that's where your old group the"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "CIA comes into to play and false flags"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "work enormously well. Um the propaganda"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "the it's an existential threat now to"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "the United States that we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "attacked. I just want to play an example"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "of how the media and the CIA and the"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "intelligence state works in tandem to"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "kind of push this fake news on people."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "Here is uh Mark Levvin uh on television."}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "Uh and here is what he had to say about"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "the nuclear threat to the United States"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "that they must destroy civilization."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "They believe today that they must"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "destroy the West."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Most prominently the United States of"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "America. Those nuclear ICBMs aren't"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "aimed for Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. They're"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "aimed for New York and Los Angeles and"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "Chicago and everywhere in between and"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "around the United States of America."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "They're working closely with the"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "communist Chinese, Putin,"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "and North Korea."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "And we are on the precipice, I believe,"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "of finally addressing this so that we"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "can have peace and security and"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "prosperity."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "We haven't bothered that regime. That"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "regime has been kidnapping,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "slaughtering, maming Americans since day"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "It seeks a nuclear weapon to destroy us."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "And any terrorist group that runs a"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "country that murders 50,000 of its own"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "people and would murder a million of its"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "own people will have no"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "hesitation about firing nuclear warheads"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "against us."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:58", "text": ">> So of course, John, none of that's true."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "Uh but"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:01", "text": ">> literally none of it is true."}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:03", "text": ">> Like"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": ">> literally not a word of it was true."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": ">> Why is that still on Fox News? like they"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "didn't fire him because he's carrying"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "he's carrying the water and the"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "narrative for the propaganda campaign. I"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "mean, nukes are about to hit us in"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Chicago. They don't even have a delivery"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "mechanism that can go beyond 3,000 mi."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "We're 7,000. Anyway, go ahead, John."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": ">> His his intelligence must be so"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "incredible. He should be the director of"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "the CIA because the CIA didn't know any"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "of that stuff. Uh, no. The the in all"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "seriousness, Mark Levvin is unhinged."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Uh, he is an Israeli mouthpiece for all"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "intents and purposes. And um nobody"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "should believe a single word that he"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "says. Again,"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "the the Iranians have never attacked one"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "of their neighbors. The Israelis have"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "repeatedly attacked all of their"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "neighbors. The the Iranians did not"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "initiate hostilities with the Israelis."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "The Israelis initiated the hostilities"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "with the Iranians. And so, no, the there"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "are no nuclear uh weapons in Iran. There"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "are no delivery systems in Iran. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "the Israelis that have nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "and won't allow the international"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "community to to inspect them."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": ">> Well, how would the CIA propaganda"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "machine then sell this? To Natalie's"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "point, like how is this going to work?"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "We're not buying it. So, do we need some"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "sort of a false flag attack that we find"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "this existential threat?"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": ">> If the CIA were tasked with doing that,"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "yeah, it would have to be a false flag"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "operation. couldn't be something soft"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "like just recruiting journalists to"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "plant stories, you know, like they did"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "in in Italy in 48 and or 49 and and uh"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "Guatemala in 54. But"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "I come I keep coming back to the idea"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "that President Trump hasn't gone across"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "the country to try to win public opinion"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "over. He hasn't done anything to try to"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "sell this to the American people. And"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "the fact that none of our European"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "allies support this, none of them, tells"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "me either that the CIA has failed in its"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "efforts to sway public opinion abroad"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "or the CIA hasn't tried to to swing"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "public opinion abroad. I just can't"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "understand the president's thought"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "process here. If you're going to do it,"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "do it. Don't fool around. Just do it."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "But if you're not going to do it, then"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "don't do it. If you want to win the"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "Nobel Peace Prize, if you want to go"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "down in history as being, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "Richard Nixon of this generation, then"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "make peace with the Iranians and screw"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "what Israeli uh national interests are."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "You know, I I took this whole America"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "first thing very seriously. We should be"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "putting America first, not Israel first"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "or Canada or any other country, just the"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "United States first. So, let's do it."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": ">> Hallelujah."}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, I want to circle back to the"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "death eaters that are selling this even"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "though the American people are not"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "buying it. Uh, number one is the"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabe. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "here's a clip of him earlier talking to"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "a rabbi saying, \"You know what? Even the"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "Israelis are excited about this. They"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "don't care if they have to go into their"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "bomb shelters.\" Now, you know, public"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "support for Israel is low, but we have"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "to remember that these are families"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "living there. It is scary for them to go"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "into a bomb shelter. I don't think they"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "are in fact raising their hand and"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "saying, \"Come at me, bro.\" It's their"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "government that is. But watch this rabbi"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "say exactly the opposite."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": ">> We we spent two days here now and almost"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "everyone we've met with across the"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "spectrum within the Jewish community."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "That's where we've been meeting. None of"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "them have expressed any fear about going"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "into bomb shelters or ballistic missiles"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "from Iran. Every one of them universally"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "has said to us,"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:46", "text": ">> \"You must be excited to be here. You're"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "gonna have a front row seat to the"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "miracles that are about to happen.\" And"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "you speak about the resilience of the"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "Israeli people and what they've been"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "through for two years. They're not in"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "fear, at least those who we've met with"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "across the spectrum have all expressed"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "this faith and almost I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "describe excitement, but they've had a"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "front row seat to miracles for two years"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "and they feel like they're about to see"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "the next chapter of it. And they ask"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "you, \"Aren't you excited to be here for"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "it? You must feel This goes on for about"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "three. They're like laughing."}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": ">> They're laughing about we absolutely"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "could have a front row seat. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "our civilians could be killed. But"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "that's funny to them. It's haha joke."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "And that they all want it. Now, I know"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "for a fact that they don't all want it."}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "That this must be terrifying. It's"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "terrifying for me in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "America. It must be really scary for"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "parents, for real humans that do"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "actually live in Israel. So, Colonel,"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "can I ask you what is the possibility of"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "damage to Israel? We saw them get"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "pummeled last summer when Iran did"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "unleash limited strikes. What do you"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "think? Can you give me worst case"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "scenario for for the civilians of"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "Israel?"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": ">> Sure. I I just want to say one thing"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "this back to Morris because you were"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "talking about the media and it strikes"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "me that the Soviet Union really had one"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "major outlet called Pravda and that was"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "the source of the information. They"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "wanted everybody at home and abroad to"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "consume. I think we have a thousand"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "equivalents of Pravda in the United"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "States."}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:16", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:18", "text": ">> And they're all being fed the same"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "nonsense and they're passing the"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "nonsense on to the rest of us. It's been"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "enormously successful. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "even though a lot of people are opposed"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "to this, there's still a lot of"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "conventional wisdom out there that's"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "rooted in complete lies and fiction. You"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "know, oh, they killed our soldiers, they"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "did this, and so forth. Uh it's tough"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "dealing with that. It really is. And"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "what the fact that you exist and other"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "outlets like you are are preaching to"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "the extent that you can the truth by by"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "going out and getting it from others is"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "incredibly important."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "Uh how is this going to turn out for"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "Israel? I think that it doesn't matter"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "what we do to Iran"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "the after the initial strike or in fact"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "even before the initial strike is over"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "the Iranians are going to fire"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "volumes of missiles and rockets and"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "unmanned systems on a scale that is hard"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "for us to imagine. We're going to do"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "everything we can with the fleet, the"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "Aegis class destroyers that are out"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "there, as well as the uh aircraft"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "ashore, the F-22s, F-35s to stop it. But"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "I think large numbers of these ballistic"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "missiles in particular are going to get"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "through and they're going to do enormous"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "damage. And if this continues for any"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "length of time beyond say 10 days, uh"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "Israel could very well be completely"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "destroyed."}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "Israel can be completely destroyed"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": ">> and they are and they want it according"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "to Mike Huckabe they're"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "there's an important reason for that I"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "think and this is one of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "that I think you're hearing Levvin make"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "the outrageous statements that he's"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "making this is these are statements of"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "desperation"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "they'll say anything to get this war"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "going because they regard it as their"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "last best chance to drag us into the"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "battle area and to destroy destroy their"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "enemies for them. If they can't get it"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "this time, I think they probably believe"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "it will never happen. And so they're"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "going to pull out all the stops,"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "anything they could possibly do to"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "silence critics, to to conceal the"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "truth, and to hound everybody into this"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "war. And I I think they're going to get"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "their wish. I just don't think it's"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "going to work out very well for Israel."}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> John, your thoughts on that?"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:46", "text": ">> What Doug said? Um, yeah. I mean, that's"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "that's it right there. These these are"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "these are people with with a messianic"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "view of the modern world. When the rabbi"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "that was in that clip didn't use the"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "word miracles by accident,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": ">> he he meant that they believe this will"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "hasten the coming of the Messiah, that"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "the end times are upon us, that nuclear"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "war is good, and that uh finally, you"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "know, we all get to see the Savior and"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "and go to heaven."}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": ">> He's volunteering people to die."}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": ">> Yeah. They don't care. They don't care"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "how ugly this gets. But Doug makes a"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "very important point here. Doug, I wish"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "I had thought of it, but I I might steal"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "it and claim it as my own. Um, and that"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> everybody else does."}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": ">> We're sharing."}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": ">> That is that um that they're desperate."}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "I think they are desperate. And I think"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "that's why they're all screaming so"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "loudly about this. I think that's why"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "Benjamin Netanyahu has made what is it,"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "seven trips in the last 11 months to the"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "United States."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": ">> So yeah, I think that's what we're"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "seeing here. It's desperation. They're"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "seeing public opinion in the United"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "States slipping away from them where"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "there's another region"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": ">> and the whole region. That's right. And"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "and in Western Europe as well where so"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "many of us were"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "just knee-jerk"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "pro-Israel pro-Israel or pro-Zionist."}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "And now people are saying, \"Wait a"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "minute. Wait a minute. This doesn't"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "smell right to me.\""}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": ">> And what does what does the United"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "States get out of it?"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": ">> You know, as Doug correctly said, we"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "could lose hundreds of people. We could"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "lose thousands of people in a protracted"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "uh engagement with the Iranians. This is"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "a giant country. It has 92 million"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "people and a 5,000year history. It's not"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "going to go quietly."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "There's another issue with this matter"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "of desperation that we shouldn't ignore."}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "People that desperate, if this goes"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "badly, will seriously consider and maybe"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "just use a nuclear weapon against Iran."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "And that's my major consideration. I do"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "not think that anyone in the Trump White"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "House would do it. Uh I see no evidence"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "that we have anybody that beyond reason"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "in the Pentagon. But I think there's a"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "real danger that if the Israelis are"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "desperate and they don't think they've"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "won and are not getting what they want"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "that they could turn to that. I hope"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "President Trump is aware of it and has a"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "way to stop it or neutralize it."}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:14", "text": ">> Well, that's what I want to talk about."}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "We're going to take a quick break. I"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "want to talk about President Trump and"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "the reporting that's come out uh just"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "over the past 24 hours about his thought"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "process and decisionmaking here and is"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "the mainstream media trying to push him"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "in a direction of war. I mean you see"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "that with what's going on with Fox News"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "and otherwise. So I want to talk about"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "the Trump piece of this and a talking"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "point that's been going viral over the"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "past 24 hours as well. So just give us"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "30 seconds Colonel and John and we'll be"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "back here in uh in just a few seconds."}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "Um, but first we want to tell you about"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "our friends at Leier Capital because I"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "don't know if you see what's happening"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "right now with the collapse of the US"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "dollar. It's happening in real time. 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Um, I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "play for you just a quick soundbite"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "here. This is Jennifer Griffin from Fox"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "News, gentlemen, where she was doing a"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "report on all of the massive military"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "buildup that's hit the region, all of"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "the aircraft carriers and everything"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "that has now arrived in the region. And"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "as she was tossing it back to Brett"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "Bear, this is what she said. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "it's just pay close attention. Watch."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "It's hard to imagine the president"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "backing down from the military option."}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "The amount of military hardware the"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "Pentagon is positioning in the region"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "signals it is not a question of if but"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "when. Brett"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": ">> not a not a question of if but when."}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "Last night I sat down with Tucker"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "Carlson. We had a lively discussion"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "about the impending Iraq uh Iran war and"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "Tucker just called it out and said she's"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "lying. I just spoke to the president."}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "Like she's what what she's saying is"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "factually incorrect. watch."}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:01", "text": ">> That's not true, by the way. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "just in point of fact, that's not true."}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "I I do think we're likely to go to war"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "with Iran. I grieve that. But in point"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "of fact, Trump makes a decision and he"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "hasn't made it. So, it's just it's just"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "a fact. So, if you're reporting that"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "we're going to war, you're lying. And it"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "does feel like they're trying to create"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "this sense of inevitability."}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "I think her point was the military"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "buildup is like you can't put that genie"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "back in the bottle at this point. that"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "there's so much of a military buildup."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "We've moved so many expensive pieces of"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "equipment to this region un not unlike"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "the Gulf War. In fact, I've talked to"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "sources in Tel Aviv who told me they"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "haven't seen this type of buildup since"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "the Gulf War. So, I think her point is,"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "oh well, you know what, Mr. President,"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "maybe you just sort of sit back and let"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "let other people deal with this. We're"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "going to build it up to such a degree"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "where you just can't put this genie back"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "in the bottle. And I wonder how much"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "agency he gets. We'll cut that guy off."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> Cut that guy off. But I guess"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": ">> in favor of this guy."}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:04", "text": ">> In favor of this guy. In favor of uh"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "Thursday, Clayton. So, Colonel um"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "Colonel, when you look at when you look"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "at that, you see Jennifer, I'm just so"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "struck by this. You have a a Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "reporter for Fox News basically saying"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:16", "text": ">> this foregone conclusion."}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": ">> This foregone conclusion that the"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "military buildup is so large here that"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "really Trump has no choice in the"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "matter. And yet he hasn't even made a"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "decision."}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": ">> Well, there's precedent for that. And in"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "August of 1914,"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "when the Germans finally decided to"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "mobilize, this is after it became clear"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "that Thesar had mobilized the Russian"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "forces, the French were mobilizing, the"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "Austrians had declared war"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "and uh the trains were running in"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "Germany and the soldiers were boarding"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "them headed to the western border. And"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "the Kaiser was very upset because he"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "didn't want a war. And he said to the"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "chief of staff who was with him at the"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "time, he said, \"Can I stop this?\""}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "And the chief of staff said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "sire, I I think it's it can't be"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "stopped.\" Well, that was the wrong"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "answer. Kaiser was the"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "commander-in-chief. If he had said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "want this to stop,\" it would have"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "stopped. If President Trump is"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "listening, that's what I would tell him."}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "Don't be misled. Nothing has to happen."}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "You are the commander-in-chief. You can"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "call a halt to this anytime you want."}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "You can end it. You can also change the"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "conditions for an agreement. You can"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "alter it. Uh and I agree with John. If"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "you were to do that, that would be a a"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "strategic leap into rationality and and"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "future peace in the region. I I don't"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "expect it, but that's what I would tell"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "him."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "You know, this is a constant assault on"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "my psyche because I'm constantly"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "following it. So, it's like, we're going"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "to do it. No, we're not going to do it."}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "Yeah, we're going to do it. Oh, these"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:58", "text": " they have a lot of power."}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "They're at the White House. Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "Netanyahu's back. How? And what you had"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "said earlier, John, is that this may be"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "one of their last best hope to get the"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "war that they finally want. But if they"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "don't get it, then we have to keep"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "living like this cuz they're going to"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "keep screaming for it. And they will"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "breed more people like the Ben Shapiro"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "to keep screaming, \"What do we do?\" I"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "mean, what I do is I I marinade myself"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "in this Monday through Thursday and then"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "I go to Costco on Friday and I pretend"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "it's not real because otherwise I will"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "crack. Um,"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": ">> let me let me really ruin your day. Let"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "me really ruin your day."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": ">> Yeah, go ahead."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> What happens if the Iranians do fall"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "apart? So, the Israelis got the chaos"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "they wanted in Iraq. They got the chaos"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "that they wanted in Iran."}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "Benjamin Netanyahu said this week that"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "the real threat is Turkey, right? He"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "said it this week. It's Turkey. What"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "happens if there are hostilities between"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "Turkey and Israel? Turkey is a NATO"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "country. We are compelled by treaty to"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "defend Turkey."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:11", "text": ">> Would we? I doubt it. And that's going"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "to be the end of NATO. Well, I don't"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "care about that. I'd be happy to see the"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "end of NATO."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:17", "text": ">> I'd be so happy"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": ">> woman. NATO's already dead ban walking."}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": ">> I guess my point is like how do we"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "whack-a-ole these war lovers? So, we"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "don't have to hear it and we can go to"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "Costco every day. I don't want to live"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "this way. It's incredibly exotizing and"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "they are not going to stop."}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:34", "text": ">> Well, I maybe I expand on that. So, the"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "Jennifer Griffin clip that I played"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "here, I mean, these are like these are"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "the forces at play, right? the"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "intelligence Pentagon adjacent forces,"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "John, that you know so well from having"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "worked at the CIA. And so that's what"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "and the neocon forces and the Lindsey"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "Graham forces, but the more nefarious"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "behind closed door forces are the ones"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "that I'm worried about, right? It's not"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "the Lindsey Grahams. It's the people"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "that are giving that bit of information"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "to Jennifer Griffin. Then she goes on"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "Fox News and pushes it. And then Sean"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "Hannity goes on his show and wears a CIA"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "lapel pin, which he wears on his show."}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "Um, so like what forces are at play here"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "really pushing us inside Washington"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "right now for this war?"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, by all accounts, um, and I"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "think Larry Johnson would, uh, would say"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "the same thing. There are factions at"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "play right now. You've got the State"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "Department"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "all in the DoD civilian leadership all"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "in. And you have Tulsi Gabbard and uh"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "apparently Vice President JD Vance"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "saying, \"Wait a minute. This is a"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "mistake. We shouldn't be doing this.\""}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "Now, couple that with the fact that"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Donald Trump really has done literally"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "nothing to swing public opinion in"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "support of an attack on Iran. And I just"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "don't understand the policy."}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "I don't understand why you would even"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "have conversations where people could be"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "quoted as having said, \"We've made a"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "decision to attack Iran.\" How is that in"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "the in the American national interest?"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "It doesn't make any sense to me. It's"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:17", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, I want to ask Colonel Oh, go"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "ahead, Colonel."}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:22", "text": ">> I was just going to say that don't"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "overlook the people that elected uh"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "Donald Trump to the White House. And"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "when I say elect, I say it tongue and"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "cheek. Who are the billionaires that"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "spent the money? And"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": ">> one of the things that's very striking"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "to me in 2024 is that someone like"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "Zuckerberg who put a 250 plus million"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "dollars uh into absentee ballots in"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "major cities across the country and"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "bringing in people to vote uh and"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "register their votes."}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "What did he do in in 2024? That's what"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "he did in 2020. In 2024, that didn't"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "It was called off. Now, why was it"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "called off? Because I think the other"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "billionaires that had historically"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "opposed Trump had sat down with"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "President Trump and made it clear, look,"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "we'll make sure you get into the White"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "House. We'll we'll put you there. We'll"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "support you, but you've got to do some"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "things for us. This time around, you're"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "going to have to deal with Iran."}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "Remember, back in June of 2019, we came"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "very close to a war with Iran, right?"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": ">> Trump ultimately walked away. They said,"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "\"We're not going to allow that to happen"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "again.\" Now, I don't know what these"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "people may have from Mr. Epstein on"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "anybody in Washington. I imagine there's"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "a lot out there and that may be part of"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "this. I have no way of knowing. Anything"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "is possible these days, but I'm afraid"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "that's a very important decision factor"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "for President Trump."}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, I want to ask about these"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "reports that are sort of viral right now"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "about clogged toilets on the USS General"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "Ford that the um, soldiers are"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "suffering. They're in long long bathroom"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "lines. It just smells horrific. That"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "seems like a recipe for disease. But"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "there were reports. So now some are"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "surmising that the soldiers are are"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "sabotaging or the sailors rather"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "sabotaging the ship in order to be sent"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "home. But there were reports of this"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "ship having plumbing issues since as far"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "back as 2022. So we can either chalk it"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "up to low military morale or aging"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "infrastructure. Now, Colonel, neither of"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "those show confidence or readiness for a"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "major global conflict. What do you know"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "about that?"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": ">> I know from my sources in the Navy that"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "sailors actually took undershirts and"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "stuffed them into the toilets to cause"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "them to back up."}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": ">> What? I know that uh the crews very very"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "unhappy with being at sea now for what"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "10 months"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:54", "text": ">> and before this is over it will have"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "been a year."}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": ">> They went to Suda Bay. I think they"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "tried to address some of this and now"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "they've pulled out of Suda Bay after"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "what 48 hours uh or a little more than"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "that to repair things. But you're"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "talking about something else that's"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "that's hugely important. I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "go into great detail, but logistics in"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "the region is very problematic right"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "now. Places we formerly were able to"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "utilize, we can't because of the Huckabe"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "interview, frankly. Uh that that"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "particular revelation has turned almost"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "everybody against us in the region. So"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "the Navy is now looking as far away as"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "India and ports there that they can go"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "to as required. There are limited"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "quantities of missiles and ammunition"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "and at some point you have to break"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "away. You have to go reload everything."}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "And then finally, a lot of these ships"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "have been at sea for long periods of"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "time and need a lot of retrofitting."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "Now, supposedly there are three carrier"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "battle groups currently being prepared"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "right now that could be surged out to"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "the region. They wouldn't be ready for"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "at least another two weeks. Some people"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "say three, but we may see them surge"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "shortly in order to relieve these two"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "carrier battle groups. This is this is"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "tough. You know, people think, well,"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "these ships just go to sea, but they"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "have to be replenished. The people have"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "to eat, you know, you have to have"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "repair parts. You you have to make make"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "things work that are no longer working"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "after months of use. So, there are a lot"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "of problems with this. This is not an"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "easy task. We all forget Iran is a"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "continental power. We are not. We're a"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "maritime aerospace power. We have to fly"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "or sail everything in. Now, one one"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "quick correction. I I do know that the"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "RAF has sent their F-22s to the region"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "to fly with us along with their aerial"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "refueling assets, but everybody else is,"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "as John say says, has said no thanks."}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "Well, and I can just tell you from the"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "military sources I've spoken to"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "separately about the USS Abraham Lincoln"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "that this is I think the third now"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "deployment. Um they were supposed to"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "come home months ago. They've they just"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "found out I think about a week ago that"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "they were now extended again. So as you"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "to your point 10 months and they're like"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "they're furious about it. 10 months. Um"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "so John this is troubling but on on the"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "colonel's point about Huckabe"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": ">> that's huge. Clayton and I both looked"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "at each other off camera like"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:26", "text": ">> what what an amazing cell phone from"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "that So, he has made it so"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "that we cannot use those bases for a war"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "we don't even want. We got to thank him"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "for that."}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:37", "text": ">> He's such an unhinged clown. He should"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "have been fired for allowing Jonathan"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "Pard, the traitor Jonathan Pard into the"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "American embassy to be fetted and and"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "for a formal meeting. He should have"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "been fired just for that. Now he's"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "essentially sabotaging our diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "relations with longstanding friends all"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "around the region just because Jesus"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "told him to."}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": ">> It's time for him to go. It's well"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "beyond time for him to go."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": ">> I mean, I just I'm still reeling though"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "from the sabotage of these sailors who"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "are saying, you know, we we're done"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "here. What are we doing here? Um, and"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "that speaks to also, you know, these"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "other 50,000 or if it's now more than"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "that, Colonel, forgive me on the numbers"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "that are sitting there as as sitting"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "ducks. And as President Biden said, you"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "know, it's not a matter of if, it's a"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "matter of when they will be hit and"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "attacked. And these aren't fortresses in"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "the region. These aren't like massive,"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "you know, fortresses. A lot of them are"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "just outposts. So many Americans,"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "rightly so, are probably furious about"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "this, but many American soldiers are"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "going to could potentially be killed as"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "a result of this."}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": ">> Well, most of our troops have been"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "evacuated from, as you say, these"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "outposts and forward operating bases."}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:53", "text": ">> We've tried to get them out of harm's"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "way. They're there are not people in"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "southern and uh eastern Syria anymore."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "They've all left. uh we do have the"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "capacity for point defense in a number"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "of different places but we don't have"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "air and missile defense coverage on a"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "large area. I mean one of the things"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "that we don't really have is something"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "that you hear referred to all the time"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "which is integrated air defense systems."}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "We don't have it. Uh that's another"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "problem. We have limited air defense uh"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "at sea and limited air defense at shore."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "And I think we'll we'll concentrate"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "where we're going to protect Israel."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "will protect some of the bases where we"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "have a lot of aircraft and the rest of"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "it will be uh involve aircraft flying"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "forward to destroy missiles before they"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "reach Israel."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "That's the best we can do. And as far as"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "the morale is concerned, we tend to"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "forget people are human. I think the the"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "Navy has a big problem remembering that."}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "And the admirals have been really"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "pushing the fleet very very hard for a"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "very long time. And many of them are not"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "nearly as well trained as they were 25"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "or 30 years ago. I can tell you that."}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": ">> John, final thoughts."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:08", "text": ">> You know, like I said a few minutes ago,"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "I I try hard to be an optimist all the"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "time, but every time I see us take a"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "step forward, it seems we take two steps"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "back within 24 hours. And I'm just not"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "optimistic about this. If we make the"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "decision to attack Iran, no good will"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "come of it for the United States. It"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "will it will damage our international"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "reputation more than it's already been"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "damaged. People will die unnecessarily."}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "Will further strain relations,"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "diplomatic relations with our partners"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "uh across the Middle East, not just in"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "the Persian Gulf, but across the region."}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "There's there's no upside to doing this"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "for the United States. If you're"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "Israeli, sure thing. Let the Americans"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "do your dirty work for you. But as an"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "American, I think this is a grave"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "mistake."}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:57", "text": ">> And Colonel, finally, do you think that"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "we are going to attack Iran? And if so,"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:00", "text": ">> yes."}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:02", "text": ">> When do you think this this timetable"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "might happen?"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": ">> Well, let's put it this way. Two March"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "is the full moon and we have more than a"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "few lunatics inside the beltway. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "going to vote for some time between now"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "and two March."}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "Well, also"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:18", "text": ">> that's supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:19", "text": ">> the Jewish holiday of PUM. And according"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "to my sources in Tel Aviv, that would be"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "an ideal date for them to claim victory"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "over the enemy during the Jewish holiday"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "of PUM. So March 2nd. March 2nd. That's"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "what I've been hearing. You've been"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "hearing. There you go, John."}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:35", "text": ">> I just know that it's the full moon, you"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "know. It's a Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:39", "text": ">> I'm a druid at heart, you know, given my"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "background. What can I say?"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:43", "text": ">> He was out there at Stonehenge."}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": ">> D-Day happened on those a little further"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "north."}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:50", "text": ">> Uh, Colonel McGregor, uh, John Kiryaku,"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "great to have both of you here to do a"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "deep dive on this. You know, I I don't I"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "don't think there's a more important"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "story right now in the United States and"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "what what this could bring to the world."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "So, thank you for your perspectives,"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "both of you."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:05", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:05", "text": ">> Thank you, John. God bless."}]

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Um some of"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the numbers differing depending on which"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "side is reporting them. So, of course,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "we're going to try to separate what's"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "been confirmed by multiple outlets and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "what's still a claim. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "we're also following that report on the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "USS Gerald Ford at this hour as well."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Um, whether or not it is actually dark"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "and why it would have disappeared from"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "tracking. Of course, this was a big fear"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "back in the summer when that 12-day war"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "broke out that we could lose a USS"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "aircraft carrier. So, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "follow up with the USS Gerald Ford part"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "of the story in a second. So, but the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "big headline at this hour, the US,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Israel launching coordinated strikes on"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Iran. And of course, it's proudly"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "splashed all over Fox News that this"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "wasn't Israel alone, that the United"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "States was of course directly involved"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "in this. It was a coordinated"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "attack. As expected, Iran has now"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "responded with missiles, reportedly"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "drone attacks as well, aimed at Israel."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Multiple US allied Gulf States also uh"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "that host American bases um have been"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "hit. You're looking at the US Navy's"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "fifth fleet here in Bahrain uh following"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Iranian missile strikes. I mean this is"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "unprecedented what you're seeing. Iran"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "has struck US Navy fleet fifth fleet in"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Bahrain and multiple other targets. Like"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "this is not a game any longer. We also"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "just got word about a few hours ago that"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Netanyahu has now fled Israel. Um that"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "is his plane, the presidential plane"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "leaving Israel with Netanyahu on board"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and leaving. And of course, this has"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "happened and anytime that there's like"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "these types of attacks, he flees. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "I spoke to sources inside of Israel who"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "are right now have they been in their"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "bunkers. Many of the high-rise buildings"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "in Tel Aviv, of course, have equipped"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "with indoor bunkers inside of those"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "high-rise buildings. So, they're, you"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "know, massive concrete bunkers internal"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "to the building structure. And I got"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "videos from individuals who are in those"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "bunkers. They've been in there all night"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "with like their grandmothers, with their"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "with their children. So, these are real"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "people that are being affected by this"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "inside of Tel Aviv at this hour as well"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> that we should point out were"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "volunteered by the Netanyahu government"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "saying they want this. They're ready to"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "die. So, Netanyahu was uh more than"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "happy and spiritual leaders inside of"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Israel as well that represent the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Zionist government saying we're ready"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "for it. We're okay with it. We want it."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "So, uh you know, they're speaking for"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "families, regular people. Now, what the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "US and Israel did, uh, they said,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "President Trump said this is a massive"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "operation meant to eliminate imminent"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "threats. Now, again, we've been"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "reporting all week that the US"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "government wanted Iran to strike first"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "and then wanted Israel to strike first"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "on intelligence that they knew that Iran"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "would not strike first. They've known"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "all along, that's why we struck first"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "last summer. That's why we needed our"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "forces to strike now. Uh, so they're"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "calling this preemptive. We should call"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "[ __ ] on that. It clearly wasn't."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "They knew that they wouldn't strike"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "first. Uh, Reuters also reports that"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Iran's Supreme Leader was moved to a"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "secure location, citing a source. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "and the Daily Mail posted this without"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "any confirmation, saying Israeli media"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "say growing indications that he was"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "killed in a strike. Uh, although there"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "are other Middle Eastern reports that he"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "may address his nation later today and"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "is still alive. So at this point we"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "don't know. Um and so you may recall"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "that the same sources last summer last"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "June when the US hit Iran uh they also"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "had said initially that Kamini was"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "killed and that is what we know from the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "initial US strikes on Thrron. Uh initial"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "reports are that the the US was"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "targeting Iranian leaders but hit an"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "elementary school with young girls."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "reports are confirmed that 63 young"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "girls were killed in the initial strikes"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "by the US and Israel uh students."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> And so what you're looking at is is that"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "school uh reportedly and still digging"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "through the rubble at this hour"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "according to those reports as everyone's"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "coming together to try to locate any"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "students um any young girls in that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "attack. Um let's now talk about the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "highlevel deaths reported not"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "independently confirmed though by all"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "parties. Reuters sites three sources"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "saying Iran's defense minister Amir"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Nazreede and revolutionary guard"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "commanders Muhammad Pakpor were killed"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "in these Israeli attacks. And a separate"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Iranian source told Reuters several"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "senior IRGC commanders and political"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "officers uh were also killed. Um and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "what about civilians? Well, we have a"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "lot of contested numbers and we're"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "waiting on more reporting on that."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> All right. Uh so now Iran's retaliation."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "This is where they are reporting that"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "bases were hit, bases were targets. Uh"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "the picture becomes the key story for"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the last few hours. How many American"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "casualties? How many uh you know"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "casualties, Israeli casu casualties?"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "What are we looking at for this"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "retaliation? Uh Bahrain said a missile"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "attack targeted the US fifth fleet"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "headquarters service area. Reuters had"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "witnesses and video showing a gray plume"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "of smoke near the coastline as sirens"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "sounding. CBS also reports that Bahrain"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "began evacuations in the Jufair area and"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "that the US embassy announced that it"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "would close Sunday due to ongoing"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "missile strikes. Uh in Qatar, they said"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "that the US they had intercepted"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "incoming missiles and that all missiles"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "targeting the countries were downed"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "according to Reuters. Uh but again an"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "attack there. Kuwait. Uh reporters"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "report that Kuwait confirmed a missile"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "attack on a US military base and"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "separately that the Kuwait army is"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "dealing with missiles in their own"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "airspace as well. Uh in Dubai, Reuters"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "is reporting that loud booms in Abu"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Dhabi and Dubai. So across the UAE um"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "amid the barrage and state media"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "reported that one person killed by"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "debris in Abu Dhabi. Uh in Jordan there"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "are reports of downed two Iranian drown"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "downed missiles and US bases being"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "targeted there in in Jordan but again no"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "immediate reports of missiles. So Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "is saying that retaliations will"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "continue."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> Now we want to bring in someone who"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "understands the military real realities"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "of uh of this better than almost anyone."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Retired US Army Colonel uh Lieutenant"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Colonel Daniel Davis, senior fellow and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "military expert um at Defense"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Priorities. Um, Colonel, thank you so"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "much for joining us on this uh uh on"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "this crazy morning. Based on what you've"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "seen so far, does this look like a"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "limited strike against Iran or the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "opening phase of a longer campaign here?"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> Well, it's it's almost got to be an"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "opening campaign, an opening phase"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "because I mean, you had President Trump"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "saying that I mean, he laid it out. He"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "said the objectives are regime change,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "uh the destruction of their long-range"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "missile program, the secession of their"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "uh proxy force, and the destruction of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "their uh alleged nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "program. I mean, you those are not short"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "things. Those are not something that you"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "just have a demonstration or a bombing"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "and then you say you're done with it. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "we had negotiations last night. that was"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "uh what by all accounts was a major"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "breakthrough and a willingness off the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Iranian side to to make some big"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "concessions. So if diplomacy was the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "path, we had it in our hand and we chose"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "not to use it. So this can't be to force"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "diplomacy because we already had that."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "So then the question is where is it"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "going to go and you have set these"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "really ambitious objectives that we want"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "the Iranian people to rise up to"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "basically be the boots on the ground for"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "us. President Trump said that he asked"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "them to rise up and that we would"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "support them etc. So it sounds like that"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "you're going for regime change with the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "trying to use the Iranian people as the"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "as the ground fodder to to get this"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "done. So I I don't see any p and by the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "way that was mirrored uh by Netanyahu's"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "comments this morning. He's definitely"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "saying this is regime destruction. He"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "wants to get rid of that completely. Uh"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "and he's really happy to have the United"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "States and as he said close coordination"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "with us and this is the first time that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "we've ever operated. Um Jack Keenan was"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "on Fox News and he doubled down on"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "saying that this is a weeksl long"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "campaign. He said don't think this is"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "going to be short. This is going to be a"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "campaign that he went on talk about"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "destroy their air defense, destroy their"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "leaders, uh destroy the IRGC military"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "and then of course the longrange"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "missiles and their air defense. He said"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "we will definitely get all that. That is"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "a very very ambitious target set. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "and I still find it really puzzling that"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "that that is a major war type"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "objectives, but you only have half the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "equation. You only have the air and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "naval power. You don't have a ground"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "force. So, I don't know how you're going"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "to coers this to happen. If you don't"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "get lucky and the Iranian people rise up"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "and just, you know, become your foot"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "soldiers, I just don't see how you"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "accomplish these objectives. I think we"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "have set something that's just not very"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "likely to be accomplished. Now, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "champions of this online this morning"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "are saying, \"Oh, we really surprised"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "them.\" You and I are not surprised."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "We've been expecting this. So, yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "nobody here is surprised, but by some"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "reason they think that the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "were. At the same time, they were not"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "able to protect a school of civilian"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "children. And so, what do you make of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "this? Because I mean they've been"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "signaling, look, we will go to peace"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "talks, but we don't trust the United"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "States because we were bombed last time"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "in peace talks. So we did it again. We"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "went to peace talks, we bombed them."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Nobody's surprised. That's [ __ ] But"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "talk about the actual defenses of the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "Iranian uh military because civilians"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "were killed."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And and look, that's that's"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "happened on both sides, I'm afraid. uh"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "there they're the we've known that the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "the a lot of the missiles that uh both"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the Israelis and the Americans have they"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "we knew for sure that was going to get"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "through. No air defense system is"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "impervious no matter what it is. That"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "includes the the Iron Dome system, the"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "the THAAD system and everything in Iran,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "uh Israel, I'm sorry. Uh all the stuff"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "we have, everybody knows that there's"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "stuff that can get through it. But I was"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "more concerned about what got through"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "our defenses. There was uh I saw a video"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "just before I came on here of our base"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "in Bahrain where there were two strikes"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "that came through and one of them was"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "very clearly captured on camera was a"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "slowmoving drone and I'm thinking man if"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "a drone gets through that and lands in"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "in inside of our base and hits one of"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "the buildings in there. That's really"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "troubling because those should be easy"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "to knock down. If we can't knock down a"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "drone then we got some real problems."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Yeah, I think that's it right there. The"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "one you're showing. Uh then there's also"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "a radar installation in Qatar that that"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "according to an aerial view of it, if if"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "it's accurate, uh it shows a pinpoint"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "accurac missile getting to a multiund"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "million dollar uh def array radar"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "system. And if they can get through our"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "system with that uh and have that kind"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "of accuracy, then that that portends"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "real problems. Uh one of the IRGC"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "leaders this morning also came out and"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "said, \"So far all you've seen is our old"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "stuff. uh you haven't seen some of our"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "new stuff. And we've got stuff that you"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "haven't even seen at all yet. And much"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "more could be coming. Can't say yet"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "whether that's bluster, whether that's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "true, but I can say that what has gotten"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "through. And that means in all of these"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "places, whether it's Bahrain, Qatar,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "Kuwait, u all all these places, their"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "stuff is getting through our air"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "defense. And I think you've talked about"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "this before that uh in the weeks leading"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "up to this, one of the reasons we"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "delayed from the January strike date,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "which was supposed to have come around"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the 13th or 14th, was because we needed"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "more air defense missiles in the area."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "And 20 bases were alleged to have nearly"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "tripled their air defense capacity of"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "what they had. And so far, and there's"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "only this has only been a few shots that"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "have gotten through, but that's all"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "they've shot. There hasn't been this big"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "wave of strikes. That was my concern and"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "still is is that they may send waves of"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "missiles like a hundred missiles at a"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "time, several hundred drones maybe. And"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "if they really do them in coordination,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "it's pretty clear that they can"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "overwhelm our defenses, but we haven't"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "seen that yet. We haven't done that to"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "them yet. So, so far this has been kind"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "of a tepid start, as a matter of fact."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "So, when you look at the USS Gerald"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Ford, a question that's been raised"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "online, maybe you have any sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "insights about why the USS Gerald Ford"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "would have gone dark and uh disappeared"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "from tracking radar. Um, so we don't"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "want to get into speculation territory,"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "but of course, Scott Ritter on our show"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "months ago said the one of the big"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "concerns of course is that a US aircraft"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "carrier could be hit with hypersonic"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "missiles or otherwise in the region,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "which in many ways are like sitting"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "ducks here. Do you have any information"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "about why USS Gerald Ford would have"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "gone dark?"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> I I haven't seen that report, but but I"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "can just imagine that that they're pro"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "probably trying to reduce the signature"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "on it so that he can't be tracked uh or"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "at least make it more difficult to be"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "tracked because in order to hit uh any"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "of our aircraft carriers, you've got to"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "have very precise targeting data. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "I'm equally as concerned the fact that"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "the Chinese have been publishing"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "video and satellite photographs of the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Gerald Rford and some of our aircraft as"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "well, which makes me concerned that if"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "they're publishing that publicly, what"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "are they given privately that's possibly"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "with targeting data to the Iranian side?"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Um, and and if Jack Keane is right that"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "this is a campaign, it could be that the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Iranian side is saying, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "we're going to hold our powder dry for"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "the time being.\" because we haven't even"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "seen any of the big air attacks yet. I"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "mean, we talked about these hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "fighter jets that have been flown into"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "the area on the ground bases about about"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the aircraft that are on board the uh"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "the two aircraft carrier strike groups,"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "etc. And we haven't seen any of that go"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "in yet. So, the question is when is that"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "coming in and how effective are we going"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "to be at knocking out their air defenses"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "because that's going to be uh one of the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "primary targets, but it's also one of"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "the most difficult things. This is not"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "like going into Syria in the past. This"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "is definitely not like Iraq or"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Afghanistan. These guys have some"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "capability here. And a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "reports from the 12-day war last year"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "that we, you know, had impunity in the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "sky. I'm not sure that that's true. Uh"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "I've seen conflicting reports that say"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "we probably didn't even test it. I have"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "talked to some uh and knowledgeable air"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "force pilots that said that like in our"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "portion of the midnight hammer that uh"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "our air force didn't even they weren't"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "even taken under fire uh on the way in"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "which implies that there may have indeed"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "been some sort of coordination. Um so"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "it's not like they just missed they just"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "weren't taken under fire and we didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "have a lot of the seed mission before."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "So this is a really highly complex"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "mission and the and the op the objective"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "set that we have set militarily is"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "incredibly difficult. Uh, so th this I"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "have some real concerns about where this"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "is going to go and and we have to wait"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "and see how things unfold."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> Can I can I just summarize what you're"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "saying? If I understand correctly,"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "you're saying it's a tepid start. You"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "think that there's some level of"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "withholding as awful as it sounds and we"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "may have stated objectives that we know"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "that we cannot achieve and so it's a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "shot across the bow. I I mean that's how"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "I see it. I mean just just compare it"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "with Desert Storm and you know the shock"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "and awe and all that. I mean that's when"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "you saw massive shots coming in going"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "after air defense going after command"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "and control centers etc. Clearly there"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "have been some going in but in in terms"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "of volume it's it's a comparatively it's"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "a tepid start from what it could have"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "been with this you know a shock and odd"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "type of Baghdad strike. You may remember"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "all the videos that came in with that."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "You see a few plumes like this one right"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "here. Um there was a handful of others."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "You see some uh actually in some of the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "other the Gulf Arab states, they've had"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "some of theirs, etc. Uh so I just"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "haven't seen any kind of a big sustained"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "shot so far. We have the capacity to do"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "that, but we haven't so far. And the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "question is why are we kind of holding"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "our powder dry? Do we realize that if we"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "come in with a big shock and all kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "thing, we can only keep that up for a"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "week, maybe two if you drag it out. and"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "then you're going to be in some real"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "trouble in terms of just inventories of"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "a of a of a available offensive and"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "defensive missiles. I I I just don't"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "know at this point and certainly no"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "one's talking about it publicly."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> You know, in Iran, you know, children go"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "as one point person points out in our"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "chat room here in Iran, children go to"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "school from Saturday through Thursday."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "um that so there when you know earlier"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "when we were talking about that school"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "that was uh where the 63 children were"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "likely killed in that school attack uh"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "in Tyrron. Also we just got breaking"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "news in from Dubai uh the United Arab"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Emirates. This is the Palm Hotel which I"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "was just at actually not too long ago"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "and um this has been hit uh in the"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "United Arab Emirates. Um, so to your"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "point, uh, Colonel, these are breaching"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "air defenses in these Arab states. Um,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "and what sort of pressure campaign is"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "this seeming to imply from the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "side to try to put pressure maybe on"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "Washington and international leaders to"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "say, \"Look at all we you guys got to"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "stop this right now.\" Like you're"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "hitting all of these other Arabs. We"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "knew that this was coming, though. This"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "is not a surprise."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> Yeah, they I mean, they signaled it very"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "clearly. They were very open that this"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "would not be like the 12-day war last"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "time where they limited their response"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "just to Israeli military targets. They"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "said this one's going to be much bigger."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "And they said specifically everywhere"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "you have bases. I I actually had on our"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "on our show here, the Daniel Davis deep"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "dive, um I had an an Iranian uh expert"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "that said openly and he's he's from"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Tyrron University, Mirandi. He said,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "\"Listen, um, if this is attacked, we"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "will go after all these countries where"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "there are American bases. We have"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "signaled it very clearly.\" And"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "apparently, they have done that. Now, so"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "far, it's been a pretty small amount."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Some of these places had literally one"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "missile fired at it. Uh, I think Qatar"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "has had a number of them. The Bahrain"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "has had now a number of drones and"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "missiles as well. But again, even from"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "their side, we haven't seen any kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "big sustained one. And it could well be"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "that they're saying to these to these"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "nations, listen, this is just a taste of"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "what we can do. And you can see I can"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "penetrate air defenses, it can get a lot"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "worse. Don't give this, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Americans this kind of capability"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "because then we'll have no choice but to"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "hit further. That's just speculation on"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "my part. I don't know that. But given"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "what they said they would do and what"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "they have done so far, which is small"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "but successful, one wonders, could they"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "also be holding their own powder dried?"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "waiting to see what the United States"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "does because it's definitely in Iran's"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "interest not to escalate this. They"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "don't want to get into this big war if"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "they don't have to. And perhaps because"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "they saw our initial strike was somewhat"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "limited. Maybe they're hopeful that"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "there could be a diplomatic way out"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "though I think that's a really bad idea"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "if it is because I don't I mean we've"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "showed that we had diplomacy. We had a"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "golden platter last night with the Oman"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "foreign minister talking about how this"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "could have been how Iran was making"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "these big overures that they hadn't made"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "before. So if we wanted a diplomacy, it"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "was there. So it doesn't look like we"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "do. So this just I just don't see a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "of hope that this uh this gets put off"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "the table here anytime soon."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": ">> Here's some ballistic missiles being"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "fired from on the Iranian side. This was"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "the first wave of ballistic missiles"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "being fired. Um, and to your point, you"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "know, last time we saw it seemed like"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "older material being used first, slower,"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "older material, and then we saw downtown"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "Tel Aviv and all, you know, parts across"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "across Israel being pounded with um"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "hypersonics and other advanced missile"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "systems that that the Iron Dome couldn't"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "do anything to stop,"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> Yeah, it is. And that's that's really"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "the question is is what what is going"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "to, you know, how much further is this"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "going to go? Um, is that is that new"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "stuff right there? I've not seen that"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "one. That looks like something from last"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "year."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:11", "text": ">> Yeah. This was the 12-day war."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> So, what you're see Yeah. that what"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "you're seeing on your stream,"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> right? See, and that's my point, too."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "That that's what we haven't seen so far"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "from any side. And that's kind of what I"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "thought, okay, well, we saw some big"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "blasts like that last time and we"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "haven't seen it. So, the question is, we"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "know they have the capability. Is that"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "coming?"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": ">> Right. And so there are some Middle"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Eastern journalists that I follow on X"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "from Iranian journalists saying that"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "President Trump has already reached out"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "to Iranian leaders seeking a ceasefire."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "So is it possible that the level of"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "penetrate? You don't believe that?"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": ">> I don't why maybe it is. No, I I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "dispute it if that's true. It wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "surprise me."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> Well, these are what Iranian leaders are"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "saying. So we, you know, we can't put"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "stock in Trump's Trump has been saying"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "that his phone was ringing from Iranian"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "leaders all week for a deal. Okay, we"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "don't know. Now, Iranian leaders are"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "saying that the US is reaching out to"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "broker a ceasefire. So, is it possible"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "that the level of penetration across the"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "Gulf has us spooked?"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "I I mean that's my theory is that's why"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "they've done it to to to do that to try"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "and so it would not surprise me if they"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "were wanting to reach out because they"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "do desire to deescalate and to take this"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "thing down. They don't want to go to a"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "full war. Uh, and so I hope that that's"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "the case, but like you say, I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "certainly everything is, you know, all"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "kinds of misinformation is out there"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "right now and speculation, so we can't"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "say whether it is, but it makes sense."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "And if that is the case, it would be"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "logical for President Trump to make that"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "calculation because then the casualties"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "could go quite higher if we don't go"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "down that path. But then, I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "reason I had that reaction that you saw"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "was like, well, everybody knows that"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "this was the capability. They"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "demonstrated it last year. You just"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "showed the video from 2025. So, you"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "can't be surprised by this and then why"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "would you have started it in the first"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "place? It's it's really puzzling."}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": ">> Colonel, we have breaking news from"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Glenn Diesson who's reporting that the"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "street of Hormuse is now shut down. Iran"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Iran has now shut this down. Um, of"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "course, this was the the thing that"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "everyone's worried about. I mean, talk"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "about global oil markets and what this"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "is going to do around the world. Can you"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "talk about strategically and also like"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "militarily, how would they manage to"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "shut this down?"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Yeah, th this is has been one of my"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "bigger concerns too. Aside from the the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "threats to American military folks in"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "there in the region, obviously that's my"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "personal number one concern, but that"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "was right behind it because of the"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "impact that could have on the global"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "economy. Uh and and they have all kinds"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "of capabilities with the Iranians with"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "the with their navy that they have. A"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "lot of people want to dismiss it because"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "it's a lot of speedboats and and some"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "small number of ships and especially"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "some of the bigger ships. They don't"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "have many of them, but they have what"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "they need to actually shut that thing"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "down because that straight as your map"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "was showing there a minute ago, it's a"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "pretty narrow band to where you can try"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "to shut that down. And they they can put"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "sea mines out there. Uh they have a lot"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "of anti-ship cruise missiles. Uh they"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "have lots of others allegedly some"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "hypersonics as well as that. They have"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "uh just other kinds of drones and a"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "bunch of things. there's a lot of assets"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "they have that they can shut this thing"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "down and if ships start moving through"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "it, uh I think I'd seen that the report"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "was they the IRGC gave instructions that"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "no ships should use it. It doesn't look"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "like it's been mined at this point. Uh"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "but that means that every ship, a"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "civilian ship, has to take into account,"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "do I listen to this? Do I ignore it and"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "go through and then risk having a"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "missile come up? Because that's a"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "civilian ship. If it goes through and"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "tries to force it, they've got no"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "defenses. they'll they'll be hit by"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "anything. So, if this is true, this"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "could be a big pressure case. And, you"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "know, I'm telling you, President Trump"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "is is motivated by the price of oil, by"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "the price of gasoline in here. And so,"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "if Iran is saying, \"Okay, we have now"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "shut this thing down temporarily, but we"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "can make it permanent or we can end it"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "depending on how reasonable you're"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "willing to be.\" I mean, that that's"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "again, that's a speculation on my part,"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "but based on what we're hearing, that"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "would be logical."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": ">> Drones just hitting right near the Burj"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "Khalifa"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "in Dubai. Of course, one of the most"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "recognizable, one of the I think the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "tallest"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> tallest building in the world, right?"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": ">> Uh it's not any longer, but it was built"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "to be. Yeah, I believe um that is in"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Korea."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": ">> Uh and other reports saying that the the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "the strategy that Tyrron is employing"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "here is letting their Arab, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "Arab neighbors know that we are not"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "attacking you, that we are not coming"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "for you. We are simply attacking"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "American interests and American bases."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "Well, that doesn't also uh I mean the"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "Palm Jama Hotel um in Dubai is not is"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "not an American hotel, unless I'm wrong"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "about that. But so I don't know, but"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "that's what they're trying to tell their"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "Arab partners right now that this is the"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "case. What do you make of that, Colonel?"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And what you know what we don't"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "know is this this happens a lot in the"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "Russia Ukraine war. What what you don't"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "know is did a missile go off course and"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "hit in the wrong place? Did they choose"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "to attack a civilian target anyway? or"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "was this an aerant air defense missile"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "that missed its primary target and"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "landed in the city. All of those things"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "have happened in the Russia Ukraine war"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "and all three of those possibilities are"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "are at play here and some others and"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "especially there in that Dubai. I can't"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "think of any military targets that are"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "anywhere near that installation. So that"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "would also be uh problematic. So, it"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "could just be that Iran is saying, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "look, if we're going down um we're going"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "to cause some problems elsewhere, places"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "that are important to you if you don't"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "put pressure on America to stop this.\""}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "That could be what the signal is."}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": ">> Well, Colonel, we know you have uh a lot"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "of people wanting your expertise today."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "So, we really want to thank you for"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "coming to Redacted and offering it"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "because uh this is something you've been"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "warning about. Let's don't find out, but"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "we decided to f around and find out. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "um thank you for"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": ">> Let's just"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Thank you for just hope that it"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "doesn't get I I I I hope that that"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "report you heard is true that Trump is"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "seeking to shut it down or that Iran was"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "seeking to shut it down, whatever. Uh"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "it's it's bad so far, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "catastrophic. So, let's keep it from"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "getting any worse than it is, and then"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "we'll deal with it afterwards."}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> Thank you so much. All right, thank you"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "so much."}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": ">> Pleasure to be here. Thank you. And if"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "you're not um following his own YouTube"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "show, please do it because day by day"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "he's got the specifics of military"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "intelligence. So uh don't rely Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "Don't rely on idiots on X. Follow"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Colonel uh Davis."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": ">> Thank you, Colonel. Great to see you on"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "this Saturday. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": ">> All right. All right. We uh How we"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "doing, guys? Just want to make sure."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "We've had all sorts of I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "internet issues and attacks today. So,"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": ">> we're good right now. Okay."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> All right. we're pissed. If we're"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "collectively pissed, uh, let us know how"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "you're feeling about this because we're"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "here to at least commiserate. Uh, so"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "we're coming we're going to have more"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "guests coming up. How are you?"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": ">> Good. I'm just we're dealing with all"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "sorts of crazy internet issues today and"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "I mean across the board there seems to"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "be some sorts of attacks. Um,"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> you know, it is Mercury retrograde so"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "this is when we tend to have the most"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> but when you when you attack Iran that's"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "also that may have something to do with"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "it. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "started a war that I wanted under"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "Mercury retrograde. I would have at"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "least waited waited, you know, this was"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "my"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": ">> if that was your plan."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": ">> If this was my plan. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:28", "text": ">> just trying to reset here and just"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "having all sorts of issues."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm not able to get a lot of my"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "feeds either. But, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "thankfully we're here to speak to"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "experts, not bring expertise. We are not"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "military experts. We are only anti-war"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "voices. Uh we know for sure what we know"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "for sure is that Iran was not going to"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "start this war."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": ">> So, we've known this."}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Just to reset, I mean, and where"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "things stand right now, there are"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "continuing drone attacks across the"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "Middle East. Uh we just got word of a a"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "drone strike near the Burj Khalifa Hotel"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "um inside of uh inside of Dubai. We know"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "that the Palm Hotel which is on the if"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "you look at Dubai and you know like the"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "sort of palm fronds that stick out with"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "sort of artificial palm tree looking"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "island the Palm Dra that was struck and"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "it was just strange to see that those"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "images. We were just there uh just like"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "a short time ago. to that exact same"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "hotel was just struck. Um, unbelievable."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "So, um, we want to bring in now former"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "US uh, Marine Corps captain and State"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "Department officer, Iraq War combat"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "veteran and Afghanistan War Department"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "officer and senior fellow at the"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Eisenhower Media Network. That is"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "Matthew Hoe. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "joining us on this Saturday on such"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "short notice to talk about all of this."}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "Matthew, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": ">> Yeah, good to see you guys. Wish it was"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "uh, something else we were discussing,"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "but here we are. We've been trying, you"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "know, you've been on the show before and"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "of course we've been trying to call out"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "false flags and trying to stop this to"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "trying to bring awareness to what's"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "happening there. Um, just your response"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "from a 30,000 foot level as you're"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "looking at all of these different"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "dispatches over the past few hours."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:02", "text": ">> I I I think the uh truism about war is"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "something we need to keep uh first and"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "foremost in our mind that war is a"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "breeding ground for unintended"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "consequences. Uh, and so anyone who's"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "talking with any certainty about what is"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "to come simply doesn't know what they're"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "talking about. And so I think that"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "humility we have to have as we go"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "forward witnessing this war um is uh is"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "paramount. Um and that you know if I"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "come back on and discuss this in six"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "months time we have no idea what we may"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "be discussing. I mean, you're just"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "talking about the drone strikes"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "impacting all the Gulf States"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "essentially. Uh those are uh political"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "systems that are fraught, that are"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "tenuous, that aren't incredibly popular."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "Could this type of warfare"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "lead into political unrest in those Gulf"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "States? Right? And could you see a"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "monarchy overthrown because of this war?"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "I mean, that's just speculation on my"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "part, right? But that's the type of"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "thing we have to consider here. And the"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "one other thing I'll say about this is"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "last night when I went to bed, the last"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "thing I had uh seen was the reports"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "coming from the Omani foreign minister"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "uh stating that uh there was a"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "breakthrough in the talks that the"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "Iranians were willing to give up"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "enrichment, meet the core US demand"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "essentially. And then the first thing I"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "saw when I woke up this morning was the"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "report of 57 Iranian school girls"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "massacred by an American bomb. And so I"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "think that is the one thing that we need"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "to understand and the one thing that"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "that's all we need to know right now is"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "that that's how this war began."}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": ">> So David Ike posted this. Um Philip, do"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "we have this? I I dropped this in the in"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "the thing, but here he said, you know,"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "to your point, Captain, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "updates about the talks, right? David"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "Ike writes, I'd love the updates on US"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "Iran talks as if anything but war would"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "be the outcome. Who represented the US?"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "Oh, Trump's golf partner, widely"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "acknowledged ultraionist [ __ ] Steve"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "Whit, and Trump's ultra-ionist"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "son-in-law handler Jared Kushner, who"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "has Israel running through his DNA, who"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "wanted war with Iran. Yep. We're really"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "trying to find a peaceful settlement"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "here. If that if that is, you have you"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "have na"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:18", "text": ">> naive"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": ">> naivee running through your DNA. And"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "this was Charlie Kirk last summer before"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "the here's a tweet that he said. This is"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "insane. And regime change will result in"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "thousands, creating another massive"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "Muslim refugee crisis. Tppling a leader"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "is never as easy as you think. It almost"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "always results in further involvement, a"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "civil war, and chaos. Resist this. And I"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "just want to play this quick 18-second"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "soundbite, Captain from Charlie. Watch."}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "We are just going to take out the"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "Ayatollah. Oh, really? What comes next?"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "What comes after regime change might be,"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "oh well, we need a small number of US"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "troops to support the new regime. We"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "have seen this play before. Regime"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "change, you have no idea how this is"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "going to work out. You have no idea."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:07", "text": ">> Captain, I kind of think"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, I think Charlie Kirk was"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "right and gets the idea that we don't"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "know what's going to happen. And the"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "scale of this is unlike any of the"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "iterations we saw of warfare between"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "Israel and Iran and the US uh in 2024"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "and 2025 to include the 12-day war last"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "June where the scope has already"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "exceeded those three nations. Um and so"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "we've seen these attacks on nations"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "throughout the Gulf on Jordan and of"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "course the attacks on Israel. And what"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "we're waiting to see now is we're"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "waiting to see uh will the amenes the"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "Houthis become involved? Uh will Hzbala"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "become involved? Will the Iraqi militias"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "uh become involved? I mean so the idea"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "of this becoming a regional war is"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "something that many of us has been have"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "been warning about, let alone the larger"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "consequences of this war. Uh shortly"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "before it came on, the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "announced that they were closing the"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "streets of Hamuz. I mean the"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "expectations if oil closed at about $67"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "yesterday uh the expectations that when"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "a market opens on Monday oil will be"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "$859$90"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "uh I think that's the the the smart"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "assumption to make uh so the effects on"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "this will be worldwide and then the"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "vulnerabilities to United States uh the"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "Iranians have said that they will go"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "after strategic US assets uh meaning not"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "military assets but civil assets so"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "American"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "uh uh uh energy facilities uh American"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "uh production facilities. Uh now that"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "might be confined to the region because"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "that's all Iran is capable of, but it"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "might not be. And so we as a country"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "have to realize that we may be getting"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "into a war here where our"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "vulnerabilities uh say like our"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "electrical grid system here in the"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "United States are something that could"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "easily be attacked uh by the Iranians if"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "they wanted to. And you know, of course,"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "then who is to blame for that? We're"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "this is a reality of of the United"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "States's making. This is a reality of"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "our leadership's making, you know,"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "handinhand with the Israelis, of course."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": ">> Well, I really appreciate that you"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "pointed out because we are going to be"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "asked to forget this in short order that"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "it was you, the US and Israel together"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "who started this by bombing children."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "And we will soon see civilian casualties"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "and military casualties. Western"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "from Israel, from the United States, US"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "service members. That seems like it will"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "happen soon. And we will be asked to"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "rank suffering. But we started this. We"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "hit children first. Our intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "how could we do this? How?"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "Like how? Because we're told that our"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "intelligence is so keen. They had to"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "have known. What do you think of that"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": ">> in terms of our intelligence? uh well"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "intelligence this is look here's another"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "war we're being lied into if you read"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "Donald Trump's statement today just to"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "go off this is about uh Iranian blood on"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "their hands and I can tell you the the"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "the the as someone who worked uh on the"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "improvised explosive to fight defeat"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "organization task force and saw the"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "intelligence uh the Iranians did not put"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "IEDs in the ground that killed Americans"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "the Iranians had some role in the Iraq"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "war it was minor almost all of those"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "American soldiers killed killed in Iraq"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "were killed by Iraqis because we were"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "occupying them. You know, I mean, but"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "the idea that they're going to use that"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "lie that was put in place by the Bush"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "administration to attempt to justify a"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "war on Iran, uh, you know, back in say"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "'05 06, uh, that, uh, lie still is"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "pedled. I mean, so we just see one lie"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "after another, include the latest one,"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "which is that the Iranians will soon"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "have a ballistic missile, an"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "intercontinental ballistic missile that"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "can strike the United States. So here we"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "are again being lied into another war"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "that will likely be a failed war, a"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "counterproductive war and a war that is"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "clearly illegal and immoral. Uh so this"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "idea of intelligence of course is all"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "what you make of it. Uh and intelligence"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "has certainly been used before to"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "justify uh the lies. Uh again the Iraq"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "war the best example of that. So, I I I"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "think I think for a lot of us, Natalie,"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "it's this this uh the fact that we're"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "going through this again and the fact"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "that we're willing to do this. And this"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "is not the first time the Americans have"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "killed children. We killed scores of"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "children in Afghanistan and Iraq. We"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "killed scores of children in Syria and"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "Libya."}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": ">> But a direct hit on a school like this,"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "do you think it was a mistake? Can I"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:49", "text": ">> Yeah, I mean certainly. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "But that's what that's what mis mistakes"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "are the providence of warfare. Mistakes"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "and errors and miscalculations and"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "things not working right. Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "And you go back to say the attacks on"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "Nigeria back on uh Christmas day. Uh if"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "people remember the United States fired"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "uh 12 Tomahawk missiles uh into Nigeria"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "to go after Islamic State forces. From"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "everything we know from the Nigerian"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "reported landed nowhere near any Islamic"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "State forces. But of those 12 missiles,"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "four didn't detonate. I mean, so there's"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "there's an issue here of one, the"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "corruption of US intelligence. And then"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "there's the issue here of that we have"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "weaponry and munitions that doesn't work"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "because we have a military-industrial"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "complex that's purpose is profit for"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "corporations"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "with a secondary purpose of kick back to"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "politicians,"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": ">> And not to protect American citizens."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "So, a lot of our soldiers and sailors"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "and airmen and marines are in uh the"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "Middle East right now with equipment"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "that of course cost tens or hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "millions of dollars that simply doesn't"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "work. And so I think that's why a lot of"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "military analysts, I know you just had"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "Danny Davis on and and Danny's been"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "saying this, I've been saying this, the"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "ability United States to wage a"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "sustained campaign against Iran. When"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "you look at the size of the force, we"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "only have 10% or so of the number of"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "aircraft in the Middle East that we had"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "for the 1991 Gulf War, for the first"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "Iraq war. We've only got about a third"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "of the aircraft in the region that we"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "had for the 2003 invasion of Iraq."}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "Right? So, our force structure is very"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "small. Then the idea that we're we we"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "have an industry that can't make the"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "missiles and the rockets and the drones"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "and all the things the different"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "munitions that our forces need. We saw"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "this happen twice both under the Biden"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "administration and the Trump"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "administration where the US Navy sent a"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "task force into the Red Sea to defeat"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "the Houthies. And after weeks, maybe a"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "couple months, the United States had to"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "agree to a face-saving truth,"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "essentially a retreat from the Red Sea"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "because they couldn't defeat the"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "Houthies and because they were running"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "out of missiles. They were running out"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "of munitions. And that's essentially"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "what happens last year in June with the"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "12-day war uh w with Iran where both the"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "Israelis and the Americans are running"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "out of uh missiles to shoot down Iranian"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "missiles and drones. And so Trump has to"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "send in the B2s to have this event, have"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "this theater to justify ending that war."}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "So I mean, this is the uh the reality of"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "what American forces are going into the"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "war with. uh you know uh fewer ships and"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "planes than they need uh an industry"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "that can't supply them uh maintenance"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "issues and then of course incompetent"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "admirals in generals who at this point"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "especially are nothing more than hacks"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "for Pete Hexath and Donald Trump."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": ">> Um just a few moments ago, Professor"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "Muhammad Morandi who's in Thrron said"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "that 85 children were killed at that"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "school. 85. So that's the update. Now, I"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "also want to show you some breaking news"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "out of Bahrain. It's uh about 8:12 p.m."}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "in Bahrain right now. So, after sundown"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "here, so this is what you're looking at"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "here. This is an Iranian drone striking"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "one of the high-rise hotels uh in uh in"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "in in Bahrain. Um so, that is an Iranian"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "drone striking a high-rise building"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "there, residential building it looks"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "like, as well. Um and you're going to"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "see more of this. Of course, we saw this"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "in Dubai, multiple locations across"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "Dubai near the Burj Khalifa. Um, and to"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "your point right now about these air"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "defense systems, Captain, I mean, as"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "Colonel Davis was talking about like"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "trying to deplete deplete air defense"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "systems by using some of these older"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "missiles. We haven't even seen some of"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "the more advanced things yet,"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "hypersonics. We haven't seen reportedly,"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "of course, the stuff that had been"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "delivered from China, even stuff from"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "Russia yet. It seems what we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "seems like older stuff, right? Um, do"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "you expect to see far more advanced"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "systems rolled out over the next coming"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "days and weeks? I"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": ">> I think I think we're going to see the"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "advanced stuff uh early. I think we may"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "have seen it already. If you recall, go"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "back to the 12-day war last June, and we"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "really didn't begin to see, say,"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "successful Iranian penetration of the"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "American uh Jordanian and Israeli"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "defense shield of Israel until several"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "days into that 12-day war. Uh, and it's"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "uh we we're seeing reports now, again,"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "unconfirmed, but of Israeli ballistic"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "missile, excuse me, Iranian ballistic"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "missiles already penetrating that"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "shield. Uh we've seen uh video of uh"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "these drones uh hitting uh Bahrain."}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "We've seen uh satellite imagery of a"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "destroyed American radar facility uh on"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "Qatar. Uh now something like this with"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "the video you're showing right now uh"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "the expectation would be"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "the electronic warfare that is used to"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "essentially jam the drones and make them"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "uncontrollable causes the drones to fall"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "fly off course and you see things like"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "this and that's what you see all"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "throughout the Ukrainian and Russian war"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "especially. So I think you're going to"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "see events like this occurring, but I've"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "seen video this morning of a slowflying"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "drone uh penetrate uh the fifth fleet"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "defenses and hit uh fifth fleet"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "headquarters in Bahrain as well as again"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "that destroyed radar complex in Qatar."}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "That should be incredibly disturbing and"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "concerning for the American military"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "that the Iranians have already hit US"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "facilities within the first 7 or 8 hours"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "of this. Uh, and that could come from a"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "number of things. Maybe the Americans"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "weren't prepared. Uh, maybe the"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "installation commands didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "warnings that say the the fighter"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "squadrons and the bomber squadrons had."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "Uh, you know, and anyone who thinks that"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "he says Pentagon would screw something"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "up like that, of course they would. Look"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "who's in charge, right? Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "this may be an issue of just not enough"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "defense resources or maybe an issue that"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "the American defenses just aren't that"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "good. Uh, or the Iranians have, uh,"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "watched the Americans for so long now,"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "they have developed tactics to defeat"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "the Americans defenses. I mean, there's"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "all kinds of answers to this that we can"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "speculate on, but the fact that on the"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "first 8 hours, the Iranians are already"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "penetrating uh seems significantly uh US"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "and Israeli defenses, I think that's"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "really important to go forward because"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "this will not be the same war that Iran"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "wages that we saw in 2024 or 2025. I"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "think that's one thing we can count on."}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:47", "text": ">> Captain Matthew Hoe, thank you for"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "joining us on this Saturday on such"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "short notice. really really appreciate"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "it and your insights are uh you know"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "really second to none. So thank you so"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "much. We really appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:43:57", "text": ">> All right. Thank you both. I appreciate"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "what you do."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": ">> Thank you, Matthew. Appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": ">> All right. Um we have got uh yeah, we're"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "just continuing to watch all the"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "breaking news out of out of the region."}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "Again, just a few moments ago, Bahrain"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "hit with a uh a drone. And to Captain"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "Matthew Hoe's perspective, likely as a"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "result of that drone going off course,"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "being downed as part of electronic"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "warfare to try to stop these,"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:23", "text": ">> which means again more civilian"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "casualties in a war that didn't need to"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "be started. So, um, pray."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:29", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:31", "text": ">> we don't know."}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:33", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:34", "text": ">> we don't know. Maybe someone who does"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "know and who's been warning us"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "especially about the USS Gerald Ford or"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "other aircraft carriers in the region"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "sitting ducks for this nonsense and uh"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "and warfare is uh former UN weapons"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "inspector Scott Ritter um US Marine"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "Scott Ritter who joins us now. Scott,"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "great to see you on this Saturday. Just"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "um I know you've been you've been busy."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "We saw you on Judge Nap show earlier. Um"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "so God bless you for sticking with us"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "here and jumping on. Can you give us"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "your sense of where things stand right"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "now? It's after 8:00 p.m. in Bahrain"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "where uh one of the high-rise buildings"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "there was just was just struck."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "We're at war. Uh it's a regional war."}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "It's a war that you know is going to"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "have consequences"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "um that will impact the American public."}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "Um the straight of Hormuz has been"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "closed. um you know this is"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "unprecedented and uh you know it it it"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "is the beginning of an economic phase of"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "this conflict. This is also a conflict"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "that um it appears those who started it"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "didn't understand what they were getting"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "into and uh Iran has been fully prepared"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "uh for this eventuality. The"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "decapitation strike did not decapitate."}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "Um, the Iranian people are not in the"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "streets demanding the overthrow of the"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "government, just the opposite. They're"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "in the streets rallying in support of"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "the government. Um, and the war plan has"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "gone arry from the start. Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "this was a war that the J, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "joint chiefs of staff told the"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "president, we don't have the resources"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "to fight and win. Um, they tinkered with"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "the war plan uh anyways and they went"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "forward. Uh but when you're trying to"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "accomplish a lot with limited resources,"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "if uh if the war plan goes out of sync"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "up front, which this one has, remember"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "this war, this mission that we're on is"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "predicated on decapitation. We didn't"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "decapitate. Um so all of the missiles"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "that were flown to achieve decapitation"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "are gone. They're wasted. You never get"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "them back. Now we have to reallocate"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "resources to continue to chase"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "decapitation."}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "um which means we're removing resources"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "from other aspects of this, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "truncated uh military campaign. Uh which"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "means we're going to run out of resource"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "very quickly and we're not going to have"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "accomplished anything. Meanwhile, Iran"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "seems to have been prepared. They have"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "they're running a very aggressive pace"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "of operations, a very aggressive pace of"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "operations to which we don't have the"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "solution. I had always assumed just"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "because having participated in the"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "planning and execution of a major war"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "plan um against Iraq in 1991"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "um that we would have had our act"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "together that there would have been you"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "know people who would have studied the"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "Iranians and would have come up with a"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "military solution and if they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "they would have told the president we"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "have no military solution but when you"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "make a decision to launch an attack of"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "this magnitude there should be a plan"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "for instance on suppressing"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "uh Iranian ballistic missile launch"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "capabilities. We haven't suppressed"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "anything. Uh I mean this is this is the"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "most stunning aspect of not only did we"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "fail to decapitate uh but we haven't"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "suppressed that which needed to be"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "suppressed. And if you know there's some"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "reports that the president of the United"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "States having been briefed on the"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "consequences of his actions uh initiated"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "an outreach through Italy to Iran asking"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "for a ceasefire um because we have lost"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "this war. I just want to make that point"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "right up front. We have lost this war"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": ">> in 10 hours"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": ">> in in about 10 to 12 hours that"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": ">> we lost this war the moment we fired"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "missiles against Iran because we don't"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "have a plan that can be implemented and"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "we are going to run out of ammunition."}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "This is what the generals told the"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "admiral that was fired"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:32", "text": ">> u from the joint chiefs of staff told"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "the president we don't have the"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "resources to do this war. If you do this"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "we're going to lose. Did you see JD"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "Vance's post just a while ago?"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": ">> Um I mean, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:46", "text": ">> can memorize it for our audience."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:49", "text": ">> Well, basically he he talked about the"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "decision to invade Iraq years ago and he"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "said that there was a horrible mistake"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "and we ended up killing lots of"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "Americans, lots of uh innocent Iraqis"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "and we accomplished nothing. I hope he"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "said we have learned our lesson. We"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "haven't. What he's saying is we haven't"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "learned our lesson. JD Vance articulated"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "aggressively against this war and now"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "we're in this war and we're going to"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "lose this war. And again, it's not just"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "losing. I mean, that's just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "maybe it's time America, you know,"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "tastes what defeat is is like. Maybe it"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "might humble us. But how many Americans"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "right now are are throwing up, stumbling"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "around their home, uh, you know, puking"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "because we have murdered over 80 Iranian"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "school children, girls. we, the United"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "States of America, we the people of the"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "United States, um, who sit by silently"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "while we have these online wararmongers"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "out there cheering this war on. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "know, I believe in freedom of speech and"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "people should be allowed to speak. But,"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "you know, we should deplatform, not with"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "the government power, but the power of"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "the people. Anybody who is out there"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "articulating aggressively in favor of"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "this should be deplatformed, meaning"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "that nobody should ever follow them. uh"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "and they should lose all social"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "networking connectivity because their"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "voices um are disgusting. Their voices"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "uh you know are are promoting an illegal"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "war of aggression and that's what we've"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "waged here. This is not a war of"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "necessity. This is a war of choice. This"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "is a war that doesn't have any legal"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "predicate. There was no justification"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "for this. The president made a case uh"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "about Iran's nuclear program that is not"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "backed up by the facts. There were"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "ongoing negotiations underway where the"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "Iranians were putting everything on the"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "table. Uh the the the offers they put on"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "the table would have resolved every"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "aspect of the concerns of the United"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "States about a potential Iranian nuclear"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "program. And so this wasn't about"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "nuclear weapons. This wasn't about"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "anything other than simple regime change"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "to appease Benjamin Netanyahu and an"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "Israeli regime that uh seems to have"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "hijacked the United States. You know,"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "uh, this president is staring political"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "disaster in the face. Midterm elections"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "are coming up and make America great"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "again has clearly been exposed as a"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "fraud. It's make Israel great again. And"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "uh, you know, I think you know this I I"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "I'm just so disgusted by what happened"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "and what is happening. And you know, I I"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "have good friends in Iran. Uh, Professor"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "Mirand is a very good friend of mine."}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "Um, I had a uh Iranian journalist uh"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "who's interviewed me several times uh"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "contact me and asked me if they were"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "going to be target. I said,"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "\"Unfortunately, yes.\" And she said,"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "\"Well, great. I'll be dead at 27.\" Uh,"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "she's still alive. She's still talking"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "to me, but she's scared. She had to"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "evacuate the place where she works. I"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "was talking to another Iranian that"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "said, \"I got to go. I got to go because"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "literally uh their lives are at risk"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "because we the United States of America"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "have decided to bring war to their"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "country"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:46", "text": ">> and not just their country. I mean"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "Bahrain, Dubai, we've seen the Burj"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "Khalifa nearly hit today."}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:50", "text": ">> I'm not going to lose any sleep over the"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "Middle East countries. Khaled, I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "sorry. Um these are these are despicable"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "Gulf Arab regimes that have uh sucked up"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "to the United States. They've stabbed"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "Iran in the back one too many times."}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "They provided basis for the United"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "States. They they were telling Iran one"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "thing to their face and telling the"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "United States another. These are people"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "who told the United States to go forward"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "with regime change, but make sure you"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "accomplish your mission. In Bahrain, uh"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "it's a majority Shia state ruled by a"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "despicable uh Sunni um you know, ruling"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "class. Uh maybe it's time that they be"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "dragged through the streets and that the"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "Shia population takes over. Maybe it's"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "time the Shia population in eastern"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "Saudi Arabia rises up and uh and removes"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "these Saudi Arabian oil fields uh from"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "control of the Saudi government. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "it's time the Shia of the Middle East"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "stand up and stamp out Sunni tyranny. Um"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "but I'm not going to cry for anybody in"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "this Gulf Arab states. You reap what you"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "sow. You swed the wind. You reap the"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "whirlwind."}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:55", "text": ">> You know Kuwait very well obviously. Um"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "this just in the Kuwaiti International"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "Airport was just uh struck and"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "destroyed. Um so what can you say about"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "Kuwait's involvement here and why you"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "know again these targets specifically"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": ">> and and again these are civilian targets"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "now. So you know what do we make of"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "that? Our our expert who was just on"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "said a lot of times this this could be"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "uh misguided missile launches that are"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "intercepted with electrical warfare. Um,"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "are they targeting civilians?"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": ">> Well, what I I don't think the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "are targeting civilians. I do, but first"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "of all, Kuwait International Airport is"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "not a civilian target. It's an airport"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "where American military aircraft land uh"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "next to the airport or American military"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "bases. It's a mode of communications, a"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "mode of transportation. Airports are the"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "most legitimate target in times of war."}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "So, no, they're striking that. To strike"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "a tower, I think Matt Hoe uh got it"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "right. uh you know the the there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "of electronic warfare at play and uh"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "these these drones will come in. The"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "Iranians have done their best to upgrade"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "their drones to uh avoid or to overcome"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "electronic warfare, but you know, war is"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "war and they they're put off. Uh if you"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "have a ballistic missile coming in and"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "you get a near strike uh and it's pushed"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "off a trajectory, it's going to hit a"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "target it didn't mean to hit. Um right."}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": ">> And so there will be civilian"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "casualties. But the the point here is"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "that these are not innocent nations."}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "There's innocent people that reside in"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "these nations. But the Gulf Arab states"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "are not innocent. They have been uh"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "plotting against Iran for decades now."}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "And uh they had uh supported this"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "American action and now they're paying"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "the price."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "Um the Israeli Air Force according to"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "reports uh intercepts have just named"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "this operations lion's roar. 200 jets,"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "500 targets,"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "the largest sort in Israeli air force"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "history and they called it the genesis"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "as the opening strike. So this is just"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "the beginning of all of this. So maybe"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "militarily, Scott, you can take us"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "through what we see next. um speculation"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "about using some of the lesser advanced"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "weapons to sort of overwhelm air defense"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "systems and you know Iran saying that"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "you haven't even seen what we have our"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "capabilities yet. What do you expect to"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "unfold over the next 24 48 hours?"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:21", "text": ">> Well, first of all, there's some talk"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "out of the US military that um the"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "initial phase of this campaign is a"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "4-day"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "um campaign uh day and night. So you're"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "what if that's the case, what we're"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "going to see is just non-stop um sorties"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "flying into Iran uh to you know follow"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "through on uh regime change on"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "decapitation to suppress uh Iranian"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "security targets to take out air defense"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "and to suppress ballistic missile launch"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "capability but according to the"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "president also to strike ballistic"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "missile production capacity. uh there"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "are various facilities near Tyrron that"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "appear to be being targeted by uh the"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "the United States and and by Israel. And"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "so we're we're going to be basically"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "seeing um you know"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "72 hours of um or I'm sorry that's 4"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "days 24 48 96 hours of um of strikes. Um"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "and then there I ostensibly would be a"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "pause in which um you know the United"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "States would be hopeful that the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "people would rise up and remove their"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "government power while we uh rearm,"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "re-equip and uh and look for new"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "targets. Uh uh but I I I I think we've"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "got this completely wrong because it"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "doesn't appear that the Iranians are um"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "are bulking, are hurt, are uh are are"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "confused, are stumbling about. uh they"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "are responding in a very forceful manner"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "and as you and um you know pointed out"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "they haven't used their best I think"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "tonight there's some video evidence that"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "they may have fired a couple of their"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "more advanced missiles um you know we"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "shall see but the point is they have"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "very advanced missiles um and these"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "missiles will do extreme harm on the"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "targets that they're aimed at and you"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "know Israel is going to pay a very very"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "heavy price, an extraordinarily heavy"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "price. Um maybe a fatally um you know"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "fatal level of of of of cost. Uh"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "American military installations likewise"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "are going to be hit. And I do believe"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "that the various governments that have"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "been supporting the United States war"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "against uh uh Iran are going to be hit."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "The Iranians have been preparing for"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "this. They shut the straight to Hormuz."}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "That's never been done before. Um so"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "there's an economic phase to this"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "conflict as well."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "Now, the currency that has also been"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "burned up is this idea of nuclear"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "dearmament because now Iran has been"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "struck first. There's no way that they"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "would now go to talks with the United"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "States any longer and say that we need"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "to not have weapons. They continue to be"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "attacked first by Western forces. So, is"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "that ruse over or are we going to do"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "that [ __ ] again? What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "Well, I mean, you know, first of all,"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "let's make it clear. The Iranians don't"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "have a nuclear weapons program and are"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "not pursuing nuclear weapons, and they"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "have no intention of doing so."}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "Regardless of what's been done, the"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "reason why Iran is going to win this war"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "is because they don't have nuclear"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "weapons. They're going to win this war"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "because they've built a very effective"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "conventional military strike capability"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "that um, you know, will drive its"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "enemies to its knees. Uh what what I"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "believe it will happen from this"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "conflict is that uh Iran will be able to"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "um get sanctions lifted and be brought"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "back into the um international community"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "more readily because the the whole ruse"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "as you put it about using nuclear"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "weapons as an excuse for regime change"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "is over. Iran will uh you know rejoin"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "the uh the the the international"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "community international inspectors will"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "return to Iran. Iran's nuclear program"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "will be brought back under safeguards."}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "Um and Iran will pursue its peaceful"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "nuclear energy program as it had in the"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "past. That's what victors get to do. Um"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "and Iran, I do believe, will be"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "victorious in this war. The United"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "States is going to run out of"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "ammunition. When that happens, uh, we"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "will have to withdraw from this conflict"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "because we have no ability to continue"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "this conflict. Uh, and we lose all"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "leverage over Iran at that point in"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "time. Israel is going to be physically"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "defeated uh, in this conflict. This is a"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "war of existential proportions. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "don't believe that the United States is"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "going to be able to pick up the phone"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "and have this war stop. I believe uh"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "Iran will has already gotten the upper"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "hand and will continue to uh apply force"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "effectively against Israel, the United"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "States and the Gulf Arab states to the"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "point that when a diplomatic solution um"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "is arrived at and I do believe that"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "Russia and China are going to be pushing"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "for diplomatic solution um you know"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "peace will break out but peace that is"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "acceptable to to Iran which means that"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "for the first time people are going to"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "have to sit down, shut up, and listen to"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "the Iranians and what they want, and"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "they don't want a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": ">> This was just released by the IDF"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "hitting um an animation they just"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "released. Scott, if you want to take a"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "look at your screen here. Strikes on"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "aerial defense systems across Iran. Um"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "this is the this is what the IDF says"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "they were targeting these aerial these"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "SA65 sites. U maybe you could speak to"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "this. They're calling it the largest"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "military flyover in its history,"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "scrambling over 200 jets for these"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "targets according to Al Jazer."}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:50", "text": ">> Yeah, I mean Iran has been building a"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "very um effective defense industry. Um"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "and Israel has been tracking it. Uh, and"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "you know, these these uh are are some of"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "Iran's most modern air defense systems,"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "and Israel is uh is making a play at um"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "at destroying them. Um,"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "again, having done this for a living,"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "uh, in in in in war, um, just because"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "you have a point on the ground that you"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "think something's at, uh, and you're"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "able to fly an airplane to that area and"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "drop munitions on that target, that"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "doesn't mean you actually achieve what"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "you think you're going to achieve. Um,"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "the Iranians aren't stupid. And the idea"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "that they're going to leave high-v value"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "targets uh in the same place over a"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "sustained period of time in the leadup"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "to a conflict so they can be bombed by"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "the largest flyover in history is absurd"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "in the extreme. There, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "sure that there will be bombs put on"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "target and I'm sure there will be assets"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "that couldn't have been uh evacuated."}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "But as the Iraqis told me once uh after"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "being bombed by the United States over"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "and over and over again, they said, \"You"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "guys are really good at blowing up"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "buildings,"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "and we're really good at pouring"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "concrete, but what you're not good at is"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "destroying what was in those buildings.\""}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "And I think you're going to find out"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "that's the case here, too, that the"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "United States and Israel are blowing up"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "a lot of buildings, and um we're not"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "killing anything because the Iranians"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "are smart. They've been preparing for"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "this conflict since 2005. Throughout"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "Iran, there's a system of uh caverns dug"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "into the side of mountains and hills"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "where this material has been evacuated."}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "Uh there are alternative evacuation"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "sites. Um you know, Israel's talking"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "about hitting what did you say 500"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "targets or"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:41", "text": ">> 500 targets was the Yeah. 200 aircraft,"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "500 targets. operation,"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": ">> but the Iranians have created an"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "additional 1500 targets by dispersing"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "this, and they will continue to"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "disperse. Now, we're in an intelligence"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "game where you have to collect"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "intelligence and evaluate intelligence"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "and identify targets and then put"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "together a target strike package and"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "strike the targets before the enemy"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "actually re-evacuates. Uh, the Iranians"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "aren't going to be staying in one place."}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "They're going to be moving and unless"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "Israel controls the skies for 24 hours,"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "they won't be able to interdict. This is"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "a losing proposition for Israel,"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": ">> which is why it's so comical when"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "President Trump is like, \"Oh, we really"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "surprised them. We've been signaling to"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "them that we wanted a war with them for"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "at least two decades.\" So, to your"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "point, they've been prepping for this"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "for as long as John McCain has been"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "salivating over the idea of this, which"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "he's getting his way, you know, from"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "somewhere in hell."}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": ">> Well, he's in hell. cackling hopefully"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "in pain. But um"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:42", "text": ">> the the you know"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:46", "text": ">> foreign minister Iraqi came out and said"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "uh they tried to kill our our"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "leadership."}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:51", "text": ">> They said they they got one or two"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "military commanders but we've replaced"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "them but they got nobody else. So yeah"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "Iran was ready for this. They um and the"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "important thing is that in being"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "prepared for this, they apparently"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "prepared in a way that didn't tip off"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "their preparation to Israel and the"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "United States because we would not have"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "launched this strike unless we had a"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "high degree of confidence that the the"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "targets we were hitting would be um in"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "fulfillment of the mission that we put"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "forth."}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "uh we wouldn't waste all of these"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "extremely high uh value, very expensive"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "precision munitions in the first wave of"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "the attack just to strike empty"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "buildings because that it appears is"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "what we hit. A bunch of empty buildings"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "with a significant amount of collateral"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "damage for um Iranian civilians but"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "almost zero impact on the target sets"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "that we're trying to um to eradicate."}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": ">> New video in from Bahrain. This is the"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "US Navy fifth fleet. This is a 360"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "degree air radar system that was just"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "hit by a few hours ago by Iranian drone."}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "So, this is like a $30,000 drone that"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "just struck a $300 million"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "uh US Navy fleet aerial surveillance"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "system."}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:08", "text": ">> You know what? I cannot wait till April"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "15th to replenish that with my tax"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "filings."}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:12", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I was just thinking the same"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "thing. my wife and I are going over our"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "taxes and uh and and it's just like you"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "know the amount of money we're going to"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "be sending we have sent or we're going"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "to be sending to the US government um"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "the American people just have to and and"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "you know this isn't the worst that's"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "just one radar at Aluide base and and"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "gutter we had a whole series of very"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "expensive radars that we built they were"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "part of the uh early warning system that"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "we we've established throughout the"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "Middle East so then when the Iranians"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "launched their ballistic missiles. This"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "will detect the launch and start feeding"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "data into the missile defense shield and"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "everything. Um the total value of these"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "radars in the billions of dollars. They"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "don't exist anymore. The Iranians have"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "destroyed them. The Iranians have"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "destroyed, you know, we could evacuate"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "our people, but we have been installing"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "these extraordinarily high ticket uh"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "infrastructure in the Middle East. This"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "entire infrastructure architecture is"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "being eliminated as we speak. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "total amount of money that will have"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "been destroyed by the Iranians by the"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "time they finish will be well over"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "hundred billion dollars."}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": ">> New video in from that school that was"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "struck if you're just joining us. And"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "now this is from Drop Site News"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "confirming that that school was struck"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "in Tyrron. And of course kids go to"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "school from uh"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "Saturday through Thursday there. So"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "people are like why are kids going to"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "school on a Saturday? They do. Um and"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "you can see these bloody backpacks um"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "piled up there. At least uh 70 people"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "killed, including 60 children according"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "to Drop Site News. This was in southern"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "Iran. Um and they're still digging"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "through the rubble right now trying to"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "locate the children. And you can uh"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "there's plenty of photos and videos now"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "of them pulling out these little bodies,"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "which is just uh uh you know, this is"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "this is what the United States and"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "Israel um have done. um absolutely"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "horrible."}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> And you know, it's um first of all, the"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "strike on these these schools wasn't by"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "accident. This isn't a case of a drone"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "being thrown off by uh electronic"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "warfare. These schools were struck by uh"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "the most advanced precision guided"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "munitions in the Israeli and American"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "arsenal, which means that we our"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "intelligence was bad. um you know and"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "and that that tells us a lot about"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "what's going on here. Um let me just"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "explain this a little bit more. During"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "Desert Storm when we started the uh the"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "strike, the quality of the intelligence"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "we had about the target deck was"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "actually quite high. If uh if I pulled"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "out a target folder and it said that,"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "you know, we're striking, you know, this"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "target at this location, they identified"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "the target, I could point to a packet of"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "intelligence data that said, yes, this"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "is the target construction material."}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "This is what's in it. This is what needs"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "to happen. This is the munition we've"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "decided to use. This is the impact"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "point, the desired effect, the whole"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "thing. A good target package. Uh but"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "then as the war went on and we started"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "blowing up all these targets and the"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "Iranians or the Iraqis kept performing,"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "we had to start looking for alternative"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "targets and suddenly you started seeing"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "that the support package thinned out and"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "stopped existing at all. Uh and yet we"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "we still had the target package. You"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "open it up and there's a building that"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "we're supposed to bomb, but now it says"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "it's something but it turns out to be"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "not that. we started guessing. And what"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "this tells me is that the Israelis and"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "the Americans are guessing upfront. Uh"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "when this war started, we don't have the"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "best intelligence. Um that some of the"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "targets that we're hitting are"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "guesswork. Uh and you know, and then we"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "we we have to factor in the last thing."}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "Why"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "were kids at school on a Saturday? It's"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "not just because they go to school on"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "Saturday. It's because they were led to"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "believe that there were negotiations,"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:10", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:12", "text": ">> They were led to believe that Marco"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "Rubio was traveling to the region on"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "Monday and that of course that means"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "there could be no war. So they went,"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "their parents sent them to school"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "because they believed their children"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "would be safe at school,"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": ">> right? The US State Department confirmed"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "and I tweeted out yesterday that I"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "believe it was a ruse. Right? The US"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "State Department confirmed that Marco"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "Rubio was traveling there on Monday. And"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "I heard from sources in Tel Aviv who"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "said, \"We think it's a ruse.\" Like in"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "Israel, we're telling it's a ruse. So I"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "tweeted that out. So these poor little"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "children go to school because their"}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "families think, \"Oh, Rubio's coming."}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "Their talks coming.\" And it was all it"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "was all to it was all a ruse."}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:53", "text": ">> All a ruse in support of a of a"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "politicized attack plan. This is an"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "attack plan that again there is no"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "legitimate national security reason for"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "us to be going to war with Iran. There"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "is none. This is purely about domestic"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "American politics and it leads into our"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "support for Israel. Um this is about"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "Israeli pressure and how uh from a"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "domestic American political perspective"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "we're unable to stand up to Israeli"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "pressure. This is what happens when"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "Mirann"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "bribes the uh or buys the president for"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "hund00 million. This is what happens"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "when you stack the the uh the cabinet"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "deck with Zionists. Um and this is what"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "happens when you have politicized"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "intelligence and a politicized military."}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "This is the danger of Pete Hegth. You"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "know, we're supposed to have civilian"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "leadership that stands up in defense of"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "the Constitution, which means in defense"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "of the nation. Instead, we have this uh"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "testosterone laden uh you know, proTrump"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "cheerleader who thinks it's more"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "important to bench press 315 pounds than"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "it is to actually go through the target"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "deck, target by target by target to make"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "sure that what we're striking is"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "righteous and it it lends itself to uh a"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "military action that is actually being"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "conducted in defense of the United"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "States. Um this is a war of choice. It's"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "not a war of necessity and therefore it"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "makes it an illegal war of aggression."}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "And I'll just pound this point home all"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "over again because people hear that term"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "and they roll their eyes. This is what"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "we voted for. They said, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "don't really give a damn what you voted"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "for. What I care about is the"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "Constitution of the United States of"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "America. And this war operates in total"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "contravention of the Constitution. At"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "total contravention of the United"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "Nations Charter. Now, for all those"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "MAGA, you know, chest thumpers that say,"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "\"I don't care about the United Nations"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "Charter.\" Therefore, you by definition"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "don't care about the United States"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "Constitution because the charter is a"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "treaty obligation signed by a president"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "of United States, ratified by the United"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "States Senate, therefore becomes the law"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "of the land, the supreme law, law of the"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "land in accordance with the"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "Constitution. So if you are saying we"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:11:59", "text": "can operate outside the framework of the"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "charter, what you're saying is the"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "constitution doesn't matter. Pete Hgset"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "doesn't even know how to spell the"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "Constitution, yet alone read it and"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "understand it. And we have a whole bunch"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "of mouth breathers out there, oxygen"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "thieves that are literally backing him"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "up. This war is as illegal as it gets."}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "As illegal as it gets. And if there ever"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "was justice, Donald Trump and every"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "person who signed off on this war will"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "be hauled before a court of relevant"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "jurisdiction and held fully accountable"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "for the crimes they have committed."}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:33", "text": ">> Now, the United Nations though is"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:37", "text": "condemning this on social media, but I"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "feel like my HOA has more power to stop"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "this than the United Nations. You were a"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "former United Nations weapons inspector."}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "So, what are they going to do? So, what?"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "We've done it anyway. We effed around"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "and found out. So what?"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:56", "text": ">> No, look, one of the issues with the"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "United Nations is that um when it comes"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "to matters pertaining to international"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "security, it is totally dependent upon"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "the five permanent members of the"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "security council uh to do the right"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "thing. Um I was a United Nations weapons"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "inspector. The only reason why I had any"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "legitimacy and any effectiveness was"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "that uh I operated under a chapter 7"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "resolution, which it means it's backed"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "up by the threat of use of force uh that"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "was passed by the security council of"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "the United Nations. So when we went into"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "Iraq, we were literally backed by the"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "the the will of the world. Today, you're"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "not going to get a resolution passed out"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "of the Security Council um that isn't"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "going to be vetoed by one of the five"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "members because we have a permanently"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "divided Security Council. And we have a"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "United States that is basically said"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "that it's going to forego every notion"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "of justice and international law and"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "doing the right thing on behalf of this"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "rogue nation called Israel. Um, so the"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "UN is, you know, they know what the law"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "is and they know what should be done,"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "but getting action out of the UN. Don't"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "blame the UN. Blame the United States"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "because the United States has broken the"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "United Nations, especially when it comes"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "to anything dealing with the state of"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "Israel and military force in the Middle"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "East region."}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:16", "text": ">> I want to get your take on this. You"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "touched on it briefly earlier and before"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "we before we wrap things up, Scott, you"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "talked about the advanced weaponry and"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "how, you know, Iran could sustain this"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "for years. We heard from the um the IRGC"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "general Ibrahim Jabari who posted this"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "and basically giving a message for Trump"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "and I just want to play what he says"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "here. He says um uh let me react this."}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "Trump should know that we are uh"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "equipped with the most advanced"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "capabilities today to fight with you for"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "years. At the start of the war, we used"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "whatever we had in storage, but as it"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "continues, we will launch our strongest"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "missiles. We will unveil weapons that"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "you have never seen before. We will"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "bring those out in the following days."}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "Um and he goes on from there."}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "Um, so maybe you could just talk about"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "some of those weapons and what that"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "might look like."}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:16", "text": ">> Well, sure. First of all, let's start"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "off with what he said and what you said"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "about preparing for yours. I think it"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "was in 2005 that Dick Cheney started to"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "uh then Vice President Dick Cheney um"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "started to talk about the the need to go"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "to war against Iran and we actually had"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "the US government preparing war plans. I"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "remember uh visiting uh the the school"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "of advanced military studies in Fort"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "Levvenworth uh where their their class"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "was looking at an Azerbaijani um"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "option where the United States would uh"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "surge troops into Azerbaijan and then uh"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "you know launch an offensive down the"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "Caspian Sea coast to take Thran. Um the"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "Iranians were worried about this. Iran"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "at that time divided uh their country"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "into 12 autonomous military districts."}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "What this means is that they were"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "anticipating that the United States"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "would seek to decapitate the leadership"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "in Tyrron to uh remove its ability to"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "communicate effectively with the rest of"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "the nation. And so what they they did is"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "they divided the country into these 12"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "autonomous military districts each of"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "which was self- sustaining,"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "self-governing uh and capable of not"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "only defensive operations but offensive"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "operations. This was in 2005. So they've"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "had from 2005 until uh today uh more"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "than 20 years to um to you know develop"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "this capability. Uh in each one of these"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "autonomous districts there are"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "underground cities that contain massive"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "quantities of missiles um massive"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "quantities of munitions etc. Um you know"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "these are designed to survive. uh the"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "you know there's duplication of effort"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "uh you don't have everything in one"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "place um so Iran is prepared to carry"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "out this existential conflict for years"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "for years uh we're not we think we're"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "going to be done in 4 days Iran's like"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "no we're we're here for years now what"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "they've done too is because of Operation"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "True Promise um and the 12-day war the"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "Iranians have learned a whole bunch"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "bunch about how the United States"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "fights, how we do missile defense"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "architecture. Uh they've studied the"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "radars, the radar signatures, how the"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "radars communicate. They've done cause"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "and effect analysis. The whole 12-day"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "war was about testing out their system."}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "It wasn't until the end of the war that"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "Iran started firing their more advanced"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "missiles in ones and twos that were"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "penetrating the defense shield at will."}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "They didn't need to overwhelm it with"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "clouds of uh of missiles and drones. Um,"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "so they've gathered this intelligence"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "and they've been upgrading their"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "missiles. They had already had missiles"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "capable of penetrating. They proved"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "that. But since June, they have gone in"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "and they have built new warheads."}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "They've uh modified warheads. They've"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "built new systems. They deployed new"}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "systems uh that are designed uh to"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "defeat the most advanced air defense"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "systems in the United States and Israeli"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "arsenals. These are the weapons that um"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "this this Iranian general is talking"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "about. Uh I don't know how many of them"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "they have, but you know, they have"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "enough, I think, to hit every target"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "they want to hit, and when they're"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "launched, they're going to hit the"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "targets they want to hit. On top of"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "that, the Iranians have these drones."}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "They have tens of thousands of these"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "drones. you know, the the radar that was"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "destroyed in um in Muharik and in in in"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "Bahrain was destroyed by a drone,"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:43", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:44", "text": ">> A $30,000 drone destroyed this, you"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "know, 300 million."}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": ">> And this one, Scott, we just got word"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "that this $1.1 billion system in Qatar,"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "the early warning system for the entire"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "region was just destroyed. So in"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:56", "text": ">> I was talking about that was I was"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "talking about earlier."}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:00", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they've"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "taken out they by the time they finish"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "taking out our architecture,"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "they'll have destroyed about a hundred"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "billion dollars worth of equipment and"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "they'll have destroyed it using um maybe"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "a hundred million dollars worth of"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "weaponry."}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:14", "text": ">> I want to ask you, this is something"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:17", "text": "that's been haunting me because, you"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "know, you were always so good at"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "breaking down the war in Russia and I"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "thought the Biden administration could"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "not have been worse for bringing war to"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "that region. And now I did not see this"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "coming. Do we think that a Kla Harris"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "administration would have done something"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "so reckless? This is haunting me. I'm"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "asking you for a personal because most"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "of us libertarians were like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "we're going to vote for the Trump"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "administration because the Biden"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "administration can't stop itself"}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "bringing war to Ukraine.\" What What do"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "you think? How do you reconcile that?"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "As bad as the Biden administration was,"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "and understand I still am going to"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "defend my vote for Donald Trump because"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "of Russia and I do think the comless"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "Harris um administration probably would"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "have gotten us into a direct shooting"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "war with Russia, which"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:04", "text": ">> maybe we wouldn't be having this"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "conversation because we'd all be dead."}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "But on the Middle East, um, the Biden"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "administration"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "wasn't as"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "controlled, I believe, as the Trump"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "administration is by the Israeli"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "government. I mean, Donald Trump has"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "literally just sold out the entire farm."}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "Um the other thing is the B"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "administration as bad as they were uh at"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "least went through the pretense of"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "constitutionality"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "um a respect for Congress a grudging"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "respect they still were exercising"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "unilateral executive authority and"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "things of that nature but they never"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "once you never heard Joe Biden say or"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "and I don't believe you would have heard"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "Kla Harris say that I am a dictator that"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "uh the rule of law doesn't matter um you"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "know the Supreme Court compound sand."}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "Um, and you know, Congress, who cares?"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "Um, and so, you know, the reason why"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "we're at war today is because the"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "Supreme Court doesn't matter because"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "Congress has neutered itself because"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "this president has no concept of how"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "important it is to respect the office of"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "the presidency and how to def what it"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "means to defend the Constitution. And I"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "don't believe Kla Harris would have been"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "this bad. So I don't believe we would"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "have been involved in a war like this"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "because you know the whole idea of this"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "constitutional republic we have are"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "checks and balances where sanity can be"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "injected into an insane situation and I"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "don't believe that we would have allowed"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "ourselves to get to the situation. I do"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "believe that Joe Biden would have found"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "a way to make a deal uh with oral Harris"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "would have found a way to make a deal uh"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "with the Iranians on their nuclear"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "program. Um, this is a president who"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "never had any intention of making a"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "deal. This is a president who caved in"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "to Benjamin Netanyahu's desire for"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "regime change. Uh, getting rid of Iran,"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "the Islamic Republic, is about promoting"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "greater Israel. And we don't need to"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "speak about this hypothetically. We saw"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "Tucker Carlson confront US ambassador to"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "Israel, Mike Huckabe, about this. And"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "Mike Huckabe said that he supports"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "Israel taking all of the Arab lands. And"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "there was no normally you'd be fired for"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "this, but there was no significant push"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "back from a White House that has already"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "been captured by people who think in a"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "similar fashion."}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": ">> And uh we just want to thank you for"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "your analysis today and jumping in with"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:26", "text": "us on such short notice as we watch this"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "unfold and um and try to get true"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "reports out of that region. Thank you so"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "much, Scott. We always appreciate it."}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": ">> All right, Clayton. Thanks a lot."}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:35", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": ">> All right. Well, thank you for joining"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "us for Redacted Special Report today."}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "Uh, woke up, rolled over, and was like,"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "I don't want to check my phone cuz I"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "knew I just"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:46", "text": ">> I was going to bed last night knowing"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "that this war started, you know, it's"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "like you knew it was coming right"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:54", "text": ">> first thing in the morning."}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:56", "text": ">> Um, all right. What"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:57", "text": ">> from over here, you know, in a"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "completely different country seeing it"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "affect it everything here as well."}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:05", "text": ">> So, talk about that. You you know,"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "you're in Thailand right now. Um and"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "you know so they've shut down gold and"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "silver sales uh and transactions. Is"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "that right? The banks there."}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Because it be because it just"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "became too volat volatile. It's like up"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "and down up and down too fast. So they"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:22", "text": "just completely closed the market."}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:24", "text": ">> I mean this is like what silver was"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "built for this craziness right now. You"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:27", "text": "seeing like the US dollar, you know,"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "going to be incinerated if this"}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "continues."}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:33", "text": ">> So well thank you guys um for joining"}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "us. What you're seeing here is a is that"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "a different angle strike on that US"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "fifth fleet, US Navy fleet in Bahrain um"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "a few hours ago. So we're getting like"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "different angles now of that drone"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "strike that hit and hit uh that command"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "center there. Um so again, different"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "infrastructure, satellite systems, um"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "air surveillance systems, US bases in"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "Qatar and in Bahrain and in uh the"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "United Arab Emirates, all being attacked"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "with these drones and missile strikes."}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "Um, and so Iran saying, \"You haven't"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "seen you haven't seen nothing yet.\""}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "Like, we are we haven't even used our"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "most sophisticated weapons for what's"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "about to come. So, all right. Well, we"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "will have reports out through over the"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "weekend here um on the very latest on"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "all of this. Thank you for keeping it"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "here on Redacted. Thank you guys so"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "much. Um, be safe out there. God bless."}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:24", "text": ">> And what can we do? What do you think"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "like over the weekend, you know, again"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "thinking about stocking up on certain"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "supplies perhaps, but then also uh you"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "know, take breaks from X, especially"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "Yeah, it makes me especially mad to see"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "people championing this. Uh riles me up,"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "you know, try and try and stick with the"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "experts. Um and don't get yourself crazy"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "about this or"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": ">> and maybe call"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:47", "text": ">> the experts, not the experts."}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:49", "text": ">> Maybe call your members of Congress in"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "your district and demand that this stop."}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "Um, not that Congress has any teeth at"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "this point. Uh, and you have members of"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "Congress saying, \"Yeah, President"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "doesn't even need to call us.\" And you"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "have other members of Congress saying"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "that this is absolutely illegal. So,"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "that's where Anyway, thank you for"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:05", "text": "subscribing to our channel. Turn on the"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "little bell notification here on YouTube"}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "and Rumble. Um, when we go live, we will"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "send out an alert to let you know that"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "we are live. So, thank you guys so much"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "for subscribing and we'll see you very,"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "very soon. Have a great rest of your"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "Saturday."}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "Heat. Heat."}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "is going to blow your mind. This is the"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "CEO of Roblox on stage. This is him"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "pitching the idea of turning Roblox into"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "a dating platform that miners can"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "access. 18 plus experiences. Thousands"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "of adults will meet for the first time"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "in Roblox dating experiences and"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "subsequently form real life"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "relationships. That's their priorities"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> It did say you had to verify your"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "birthday. What does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> Get a photo of your face, turn left and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "right, and then boom, it gives you an"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "age that it thinks you are."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> So, anybody that's a parent, you just"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "have your head do it. Yeah, you can just"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "buy one of these accounts with any age"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "you want on it."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Where do you buy that?"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> You buy it on eBay."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> [ __ ] eBay. Does that say 13 to 15?"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> 13 to 15year-old. And what this means is"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "you can only talk to 13 and 15 years old"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "online. They're joking calling this the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "predator buffet update because it allows"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "predators to select what age group they"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "want to communicate with. It's like this"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "thing is made for"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Last time I did something like this, it"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "was with Ryan Montgomery. I told him,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "\"Go into any chat forum, any social"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "media platform. I don't really give a"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "what it is. I got nothing but time, so"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "I'll sit here for a week if I have to.\""}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "It took 5 seconds."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> Less than a minute. Who wants to talk to"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "a child in a teen chat?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> What's going on, dude?"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> I was just trying to make bffs of Ted"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Cruz as you call."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> Oh, really? Cuz Slept told me that"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "you're interrupting our interview."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> We saw a video on Facebook of Ted Cruz."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "He's talking about attacking being a bad"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Yeah, I saw that, too."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> I was doing a lot better this morning"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "before I talked to Schlle about all this"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Roadblock."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> Yeah, Roblox is a cesspool for sure."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Yeah, this is horrible, man. We're"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "getting ready to name his abuser and"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "probably put his picture up."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> You should definitely put his picture"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "up. You should name him. And Schlleb is"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "an absolute legend."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> We're going to blast it everywhere. We"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "all got to get together and talk about"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "that thing we're going to do to save"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "kids."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Absolutely. Sign me up. Sign me up."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> All right. Love you, dude. Later."}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "You can see their eyeballs get burned"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "out of their head."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": ">> This is crazy. They're recreating a"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "school shooting."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> This is Sandy Hook. That's what he wore"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "when he those kids."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> Look at the blood on the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> Yeah, that's the mom."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> He killed his mom."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> Yeah. When he started it."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Did you hear what this is? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> It's the Sandy Hook shoot."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> Hey, let's make a video game where we go"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "and kill a bunch of kids that actually"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "happened in real life."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> This is awful."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> Get the out of here. Are those innocent"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "people? They have their actual names of"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the victims."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Dude, who the puts their kids on this?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> So, this is the Yuvaldi school shooting."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "I think this is the most disturbing one."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "This is the actual shooter. The kid"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "walks through this door here and then he"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "makes a right and then there was two"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "classrooms where this guy mowed down 22"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "children. See, their legs are coming"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "off."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> Who the would make a game where you go"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "around innocent"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "kids? That's an actual event that"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "They have Tinder on Roblox. We got"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "someone messaging us already."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> Oh, you freaky. Do you see that?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> Yeah, you freaky."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> Are you serious? That was like 5 seconds"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> Just say yes and see what he wants to"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "do. Are you actually This is what people"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "are wanting to do to your kids on this"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "game. Hi. One question. Okay, let's"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> What do you think his question? Are you"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "freaky?"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> Holy"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Are you kidding me, dude?"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": ">> Do you got the sound of clock? So, he's"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "talking Tik Tok."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Are you in the mood? This game is"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "literally Tinder on Roblox."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> And so what's the point of this? Do"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "these people like meet up in real life?"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> When you both match, you get in a"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "private chat."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> I'm not a Tinderer."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah, it's the same thing. I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "hard."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Holy sh"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> What does that say?"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> It's more fun when you run."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> To think that your kids could be playing"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "a Tinder game. Just think if we would"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "have put like Vanessa 13,"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> you would be getting so many messages."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "first duffel bag I picked up. Friend of"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "mine went for a break. He went um"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "sorry."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> It's okay."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> He went about 30 days, you know, before"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "me and, you know, just disappeared."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Nobody knew where he went, what the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "assignment he got when he got there. He"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "just went into a black hole. But I had"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "to read the letters, you know, to their"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "families. You know, that was brutal. Now"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "I know where he went. He went to SOG."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Like my friend had told me, you know, a"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "couple of days before, don't volunteer"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "for SOG. You're a dead man walking."}]

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This week, military"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "forces there killed the country's most"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "powerful drug lord known as Elmentoo."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Mexican officials say more than 70"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "people have died in the aftermath."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> It's been probably a decade since his"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "last photo, but within AI, super easy to"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "replicate a voice. We don't even know if"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Velman really exists. It's a scup. What"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "do you think needs to happen?"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> We touched superficially last night"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "about if Elmano really exists, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "The leader of the of the new generation"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Khaliso cartel."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> It's been years, probably a decade since"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "his last photo."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> We've been hearing his voice popping up"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "here and there, but within AI, super"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "easy to replicate a voice. We don't even"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "know if that's him. It's super easy to"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "start a wholeing cartel that is a scup,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> right? It's like does the Kalisco new"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "generation cartel really exist or is"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "that a scup? Cuz you ne you see the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "soldiers but you never see the"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "higher-ups. You never see who's leading."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "You never see people like El Chapo that"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "he was arrested couple of times and he"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "was like escaping prisons. Mayo Sambada"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "giving out an interview with uh Julio"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Shedder from Processo magazine."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Los Chapitos. Very out there. They even"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "had their own socials at some point."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "The leaders of the Kalisco New"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Generation Cartel, those guys are"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "dressed up properly as a army. They know"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "of strategy. They know of trends. They"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "know of weapons. They know how to"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "weaponize a drone IEDs."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "And they have this mythical leadership"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "called Elmentoo"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> that that we don't know if he's still"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "alive or dead. And that's dividing that"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "cartel. Half of that cartel is saying"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "he's he's dead and half of his same"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "cartel is saying no, he's he's pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "much alive. I mean, it's it's just it's"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "I've told you I've been interviewing a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Everybody's so far behind the news"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "cycle."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> And I've been in, you know, like I said,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "it's been election season or it is"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "election season. I've been interviewing"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "politician here and there, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "I've had some I just I've had some"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "really bright minds on this show talking"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "about how they would could combat this"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "stuff. And you know, Dantis wants to"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "send in military. You know, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "these guys are saying, \"Let's send in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "the military to handle this.\" Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "in my opinion, yes, we could absolutely"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "destroy the cartels. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "if you have ever seen a special"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "operations unit function at in combat,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "good luck, buddy. You [laughter] know,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "like I don't care who you are,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> we are going to come out on top. I mean"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "we are"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "that aspect of the military is top"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "everything about the US military is"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "topnotch but that specifically I mean"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "when it when no it's just we're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "come out on top. I think that's I think"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "that we could destroy him. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> at least the the arm the armed branch"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "organization right like all the henchmen"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> I I think we would come out on top with"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "every fight that we pick. Let me let me"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "put it that way. Then I interviewed Eric"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Prince and I was all about that. You"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "know, I had talked about that with"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Dantis. Uh I think I had talked about"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "that with Vav maybe. And then Eric"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Prince came on and he said,\"And he made"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "a great point, you know, that I had not"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "thought of.\" He goes, \"What do we\" He"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "goes, \"Absolutely, that's not going to"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "work.\" He goes, \"Apparently, nobody's"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "learned anything from Afghanistan. What"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "happens?\" You know, everybody says, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "cut the head off the snake, get the top"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "guy.\" Well, we got the top guy I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "know how many times. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> You know, throughout the past 20 years"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "of the top guys, you know, and I think"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "number two, al-Qaeda had about a twoe"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "life expectancy."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> Which means every two weeks another"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "one's rotating in."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> Then he talked about, well, we can't"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "just and we can't just go down there and"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "bomb them and bomb the, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "the the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "lowest element."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Yeah. which has the most people, which"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "would be the armies."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> Because then you would be killing"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "innocent women and children."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> And so his plan, what he thought would"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "be good would be to"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "take this fight to China and basically"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "cut off the supply, cut off the chemists"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "they're sending down there. But that"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "that information is 2 years old at"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "least. I mean, you had that information"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "two years ago."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "I think I think the SCOP is the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "that's the play."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> I think that I think no one's really"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "thinking about a SCOP because we tend to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "think that this is a war that is being"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "fought over in the streets with guns."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "But we forget that these these guys have"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "a lot of what I told you the last couple"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "of times I've been here u a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "social bases. They are in the heads of"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "the people. They are in the heads of a"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "whole population of a whole territory."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "You know"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "they but at the same time that's the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "weakest point. They are egoomaniacs."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "They have a lot of, you know, issues on"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "their on their heads, on their minds"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "from what they've seen, from what they"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "do, from believing that they started out"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "from nothing and became the kings of the"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "world, having much money from, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "out of nothing. In a couple of days,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "they made millions of dollars and now"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "they're on top of the game stuff."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> And [clears throat] I mean, that's their"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "their weakest point, of course, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "That's"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "I don't I don't I don't want to say the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "wrong way, but that's sort of my way in"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "with these criminal organizations. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "it's not something that I show up by"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "whatever. It's I get to their heads. I"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "get to their minds. I get to their I"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "tell them what they want to hear."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> And they show me what I want to see. And"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "you know, and and that's why this is"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "ongoing. And probably that's why I've"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "been able to go in and out several times"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "with different organizations. Not not"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "without trouble, right? Like they"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "they've threatened me before and [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "but uh that that has worked for me in"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the past for for just for reporting, but"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "imagine for a army doing that."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> Breaking them from the inside."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Man, I'm just blown away. I can't I"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "mean, that's a great idea. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "could sit there and really solve this"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "problem and just watch them eat each"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "other alive."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And and and and as I was"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "telling you before, like I think it"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "could be get bad for Mexico before it"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "gets good cuz this is going to start a"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "ugly war between them inside their own"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "factions, inside their own core,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "probably inside their own families."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "And that's going to hurt. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "taking out just the leadership would"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "work."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> What do you think needs to happen?"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> You know, I don't know. I mean, if we"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "infiltrated, it would be extremely"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "bloody just because of the amount of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "people that are involved in the cartel."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "It wouldn't work if you just took out"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the leadership. you know, I just from"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "the years of covering this, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "here and there and throughout with with"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the different uh people that I've had"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "on, I I I think that the way to do it"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "would be, and I don't know, I just like"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "I said, it's been a minute since I've"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "talked about this, but I don't know how"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "how combative the cartels are towards"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "each other anymore. But I think what I"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "would do is I would probably create some"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "type of a [gasps]"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "psychological operation um that pits the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "cartels against each other and and"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "basically create a false narrative so"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "that this cartel and this cartel hate"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "each other and they go to war with each"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "other and then find ways to intervene"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "and you know what I mean and"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> well that's basically what's happening"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "in Sila."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Is that what's happening there?"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, Elmo Maya was brought to"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "the US, kidnapped allegedly, and now"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "we're in real time watching watching the"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "fall of the Sinaloa cartel."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> She's from Poland him."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> Well, then maybe"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> El Chapo was gone. Now, El Mayo is gone"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "and the infighting began. And just like"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "a house of cards, it's falling in on"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "But to the same point, CJNG swoops in,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "says, \"We will make an alliance,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Chapitos and US, which you know, how"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "real can that alliance be when they've"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "been sworn enemies"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "and what's essentially going to happen"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "is CG&G is going to take over that"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "faction and take over Sinaloa.\" So"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "great. What your suggestion was work to"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "completely dismantle the Sinaloa cartel"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that has been operating for forever and"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "was at one point one of the largest"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "cartels in Mexican history."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "But now we have CJNG. So what you do the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "same thing with them?"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> And it just keeps going on and on until"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "they're done. Well, but the supply and"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "demand for drugs,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> I mean, how many cartel members were"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "eliminated, you know, in that scuffle"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "between those?"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> Oh, at this point,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> hundreds"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> that were operating operating with the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "with the Sinaloa cartel."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> People of importance. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": ">> Dead man doesn't have to be people of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "importance. I mean it all there's also a"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "psychological factor as well where"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "maybe these weren't as brutal as they"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "are now."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> I mean"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> or it could be"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> enough people were eliminated for this"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "cartel to not be functioning basically"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "at this point."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Mhm. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> And for them to have to strike a deal"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "with a an enemy cartel, an adversary."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> How many big ones are there?"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Cartels in Mexico."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> How many big ones?"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Okay. Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> who are the three the top three?"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> I would say the top three. CGNG, the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Gulf Cartel,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Cartel de Noreste, and well, Sinaloa."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "I'll keep it still there. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> and there and they're crumbling."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Sinaloa."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Sinaloa is crumbling. Yeah, that's why I"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "didn't put it in top three, but it would"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "certainly be in top three. 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[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> I don't I don't see any other way. I"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "don't see it reversing."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> It's not reversing. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> this is not a drug cartel operations"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "now. This is we're talking about an a"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "hybrid insurgency criminal movement."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "It's a it's a hybrid between mafia as we"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "know mafia in in Italy or Europe like"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "that kind of mafia and insurgency."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "The people from"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "growing they went from cartel as as as"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "you read in the manual of an insurgency"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "movement. They went from small"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "organization to get earning social basis"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "to getting funding to trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "destabilize government to trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "digitimize. That's that's the correct"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "word. Legitimized government,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> illegitimized"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> illegitimized government trying to step"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "in and now teaching um official tactics"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "to their people, you know. Um back then"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "was like just get a [ __ ] AK and let's"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "start shooting. Now they have uniforms,"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "military uniforms with Khalisco"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "here, CJ NG. They're driving armor uh"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "vehicles. They have training camps. They"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "they they they they're following the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "[ __ ] insurgency manual."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> That's that's so so it's no longer truck"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "cartels. That's insurgency. And the"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "tactics that Mexico is doing against"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "them, it's counterinsurgency all the"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "way. Trying to split them, you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "trying to get inside fights. So they"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "fragment into smaller cartels and then"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "they can go in and break them out. um"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "trying to earn um the trust of social"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "bases as well, trying to infiltrate"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "rumors like recently is happening with"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the Karta Kalisco. They recently had"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "rumors about a mentor being dead, the"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "leader of Kart Halisco, the most"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "powerful uh criminal boss alive in"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Mexico right now. Um saying that he was"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "dead and it was all over the news. Aleno"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "is dead. And I was like, who said so?"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "who settlement's dead? And I started"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "watching because I mean these war is"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "also being fought over in social media."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "It's not only in the streets. So I"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "follow a bunch of accounts in Twitter"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "and Instagram, Facebook that is"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "propaganda for the Kartalis."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": ">> Do you have any of those? Do you know"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "any of those off the top of your head?"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Yeah, I mean the names are kind of like"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "difficult because they have like, you"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "know, Pedro, a lot of a lot of numbers,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "but I'll share some some with you and"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "you can have a look at at it and and and"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "they are propaganda. 100% propaganda."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> Um and they were the ones pushing the"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "version that Al Manu is dead. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> so you're telling everybody your boss is"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "dead? That how does that work? Doesn't"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "really make sense. You will be the one"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "saying no, he's not dead. He's alive."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "and the car is alive. So I felt that was"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "a strategy and of course that was a"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "strategy to destabilize"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "um government to make them think that a"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "target was dead but he wasn't. That was"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "uh yeah that was misinformation"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "campaign."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> Put up by Kalisco online. These guys are"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "smart. They're learning from somewhere."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> They're learning from somewhere now."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "They hide I IEDs, you know, like [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "landmines all over Mitakan. The Mexican"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "government had to send a troop to to"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "find landmines and they found in a"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "single territory, single uh ranch over"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "200"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": ">> like a cache of them or they were"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "already planted."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> They already planted. They killed a"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "farmer walking with his son around his"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "farm and one of the bumps went off,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": ">> man. So I mean this is this cannot be"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "longer called drug cartels, right? Drug"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "cartels were Gokinero, you know what we"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "see in Narcos Mexico, the last season of"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Naros Mexico, that was drug cartel."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Those guys were just trying to make"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "money out of, you know, shipping trucks"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "into the US. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> These guys are after the control of the"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "whole country. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": ">> it's it's escalating. Uh it's escalating"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "the intel and the tactical cartels are"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "or criminal organizations are getting"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "and now there is a [ __ ] ridiculous um"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "race between the Mexican military and"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "cartels. It's like a cold war in between"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "the same country, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": ">> because the cartel Khalisco shows up"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "with IEDs"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> and then the Mexican cartel shows up"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "with, I don't know, big huge [ __ ] war"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "tankets and [snorts] then the Carter"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Kalisco shows up with these armored"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "vehicles, level eight, and then now the"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Mexican military shows up with a rocket"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "launcher called uh I can't remember the"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "name, but it's a it's an old rocket"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "launcher from the 50s. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Would you like to see some of them?"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": ">> Yeah, let's let's see it."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> Let's take a look at some of these cuz"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "these are just some of the most"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "disgusting things you will ever hear."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Let me see. So, there's this kid. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "his name was Ethan Dallas."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "See right here. Um, he um on Roblox"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "he wait, let me show this photo. This is"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "a better This here is Ethan Dallas. Um"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "he uh while playing Roblox met this"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "piece of [ __ ] pedophile right here. He"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "had this kid um viciously. I mean he he"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "had to live with this for from my"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "understanding a long time. Like he he"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "had to suffer this abuse and he had"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "finally come out to his parents about"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "it. And due to all the abuse and this"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "guy, he ended up taking his own life. He"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "he his parents are the first wrongful"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "death lawsuit that has been filed"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "against Roblox."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Um they have a wonderful foundation."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> The first"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> the first. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> How many are there?"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> I don't know as of this moment, but I"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "I'd assume there's a lot that's going to"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "be coming. I know there's a lot of kids"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "who have taken their own lives because"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "of Roblox."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> What would your estimation be? tens,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> hundreds."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> I I'll tell you this. Within the this"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "year, so it's What day is it? It is"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "February the 5th, six kids have been"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "missing or found because of Roblox. Um"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "that that's being reported. Um I can"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "actually go through these with you."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "let me see."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "So, this here is Thomas Medlin. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "they're currently still searching for"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "him. Innocent kid. I spoke with his dad."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Um, and he seemed like a wonderful,"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "wonderful kid. He was, he was very"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "smart. He went missing on, I believe,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "January 6th. He has been missing ever"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "since. Uh, he took a train um to New"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "York City. His phone last pinged on the"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Brooklyn Bridge. He told his friends"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "from school that uh he was going to meet"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "someone off of Roblox."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> This is one."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> How old is that kid?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Believe he was 15. I want to say this"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "here was a boy with intellectual"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "disability uh who was um lured off of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Roblox um to San Diego. Um lived in"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Philadelphia. I don't know if he got to"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "to Philadelphia, but there was a they"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "were trying to look for him. Um, he uh"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "he was found thankfully. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> where was he found?"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> I I'm not exactly sure the exact"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "location, but he he was found."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> What condition?"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> I I I I'm not exactly sure. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "if they've released the condition or"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "how, but they they found this kid. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "and he uh he he was lured off of Roblox."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "These are two sisters in Mexico who were"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "lured off of Roblox. They they were"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "luckily found um"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "very gratefully um and they seem to be"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "in good condition, but they were lured"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "off the platform by a predator."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "And just this week, this week, this"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "piece of [ __ ] pedophile tried to lure or"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "no, he he drove, get this, 23 hours to"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "pick up these two kids, right? Or I"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "don't know if I have a photo of this, to"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "pick up two kids. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "and he he he abducted them from their"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "home. Georgia State Patrol found him"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "driving in the car that they put out, I"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "guess, a Amber Alert about. Um, found"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "the two girls"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "from Roblox."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> These are only 2026 so far. If we just"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "go off of how January went, that's going"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to be I think I did it would be 46 kids"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "by the end of the year. And these are"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "only the what is being reported to be"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Roblox."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> And only in the US."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Only in the US. Well, there was one in"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Mexico. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> that doesn't count all the kids that are"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "exploited, the seven of four [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> And it's going to snowball. Just going"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "to get bigger, bigger, bigger, and"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "bigger."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> Bigger and bigger and bigger. And here,"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> how many years were you enduring that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "kind of abuse?"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> Three years."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Three [ __ ] years."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> Three years of abuse. Um, and it just"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "got progressively worse and worse and"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "worse with time."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> It started at 12."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> Yeah. And and I mean he he was still"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "trying to contact me even after my my"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "suicide attempt. I mean he he was"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "contacting me through Roblox like the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "the developer forum thing and he was"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "doing everything and I I had to send"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "messages to him like I want nothing to"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "do with you anymore. Like that was what"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "I was saying. And he was still"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "contacting me."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Yeah. I mean I Let me read you one of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "these cases because I I think really"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "these nobody reads the actual like you"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "hear lawsuit filed but nobody reads what"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "these lawsuits have. And if I had known"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "one of these lawsuits or anything, I you"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "would take your kids off of this game"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "instantaneously."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Okay. Plaintiff is a young girl who was"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "by a known predator through defendants"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "platform, Roblox and Discord. So they're"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "both being sued Roblox and Discord."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Defendants unsafe and defectively"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "designed products enabled the Predator"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "to access and groom and victimize"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Plaintiff. Plaintiff was a 10-year-old"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "girl when she first started playing"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Roblox. At relevant times, Pliff's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "grandmother had sole custody of"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Planktiff. Plaintiff's uh grandmother uh"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "next friend believed that Roblox was"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "safe for kids. Um so all the people"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "involved, they thought Roblox was a safe"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "game. It's advertised as safe. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "it the marketing is for parents. This"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "game is safe. There's nothing bad on"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "here. Um let me see."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "While playing Roblox with her cousins in"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "or about May of 2022, an adult predator"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "initiated contact with Plaintiff, a then"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "11-year-old through Roblox's chat"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "function. The Predator falsely claimed"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "to be a 13-year-old boy, a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "misrepresentation facilitated by"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "Roblox's lack of age identity um"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "verification and exploited her age and"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "vulnerability to build a false emotional"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "connection with them. The predator was"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "in fact a 26-year-old man who was listed"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "on the public sex offender registry"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "following a conviction for online"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "solicitation of a minor."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "At time he initiated contact through uh"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "throughout the relevant period. The"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "predator was on pro probation."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] The Predator used Roblox's"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "communication features to groom Plankif"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "and promptly directed her to Discord,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "where he instructed Plaintiff on how to"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "conceal their communications from her"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "family. Discord uh defaultly is easily"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "accessible private messaging app um that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "allows predators to escalate grooming."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Shortly after luring the plaintiff to"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Discord, the predator intensified the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "grooming and began sending plaintiff"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "photographs. The predator then coerced"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "plaintiff to send of herself. Discord's"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "reporting system failed to detect,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "block, or remove any of the predators"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "accounts in a timely manner. On or about"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "2022, plaintiff was at home under"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "supervision of her great-grandparents."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "The predator coached the plaintiff how"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "to sneak out. Plankiff then left her"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "grandparents house um and met Predator"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "in person. He abducted her, bound her"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "hands with a leather belt, and her"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "multiple times, including"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "He then returned home and instructed her"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "to lie about the assault."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Thereafter, the Predator continued to"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "communicate with plaintiff"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "uh on or about following 2022. Discord"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "communication with Predator. Um uh"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Predator waited outside of aunt's home."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Plank scaled the fence to meet him and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "then he abducted her again. Planktoniff"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "did not have her phone, leaving her"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "family no way to locate her."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Um Plank's family then grew concerned"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "about her disappearance and contacted"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "law enforcement. Plank's family turned"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "over her devices to the FBI. Um uh and"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "they I guess they ended up finding out"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "who this was. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "wow."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> I believe in this. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "she she was in uh she got pregnant off"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "of the predator."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> Let me let me double check."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Yeah. Okay. Here."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Um, a sexual assault examination"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "confirmed the assaults with DNA matching"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Predator. It was revealed that the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "predator had impregnated plaintiff"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "during one of the assaults. Plank's"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "grandmother was informed by health"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "professionals that as an 11-year-old"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "girl weighing less than 90 lbs, the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "pregnancy put the plaintiff's life in"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "jeopardy. fearing the plaintiffs grand"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "her grandmother drove her to New Mexico"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "where the plaintiff underwent an"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "abortion."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "This is Roblox."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "This is the kids game."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "She she met someone off of the game, got"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "multiple times and had to have an"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "because of the child predator she met"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "off this an 11year-old girl. An"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "11year-old."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "I have one more I I I'd like to read for"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "you because this one is"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "horrible."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Plaintiff is a 15-year-old girl who is"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "an avid Roblox user. She was"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "horrifically and traumatically"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "manipulated, groomed"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "by a violent, depraved predator who"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "posed as a fellow minor through"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "defendants's dangerous app, which"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "enabled and facilitated this predator's"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "heinous crimes. As a result of"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "defendant's reckless disregard for child"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "safety, Plaintiff was approximately 10"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "years old when she began playing Roblox."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "Plaintiff's mother trusted that Roblox"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "was a safe place because they advertise"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "this. They tell parents it's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "educational."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> How do they Can you show me? Let's"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "finish this. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> Then I want to see how they advertise"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "this safe place."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> One of the quotes from the CEO is Roblox"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "is the safest platform for anyone on the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "internet."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> At any age? Yes, that is a quote from"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "David Bazooki, CEO he gave on. That is"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "what they're telling parents. Safest"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "platform on the internet for anyone of"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "any age"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "based on the misleading and dangerous"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "inadequate from Plankus mother. Wait uh"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "here. Actually, let me Okay. Um,"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "around July 2020, the plaintiff was a"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "vulnerable 10-year-old when she was"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "targeted on Roblox by a predator who"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "deliberately posed as a fellow minor to"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "exploit plaintiff's age and"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "vulnerability. The predator methodically"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "cultivated a false emotional connection"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "with plaintiff by promising friendship"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "and connection. When the uh predator"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "learned a plaintiff's true age rather"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "than any contact, he explicitly told the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "plaintiff that he didn't care that she"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "The Predator continued to foster an"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "emotional and manipulative relationship"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "with plaintiff through defendants chat"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "messaging feature which Roblox designed"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "to allow unrestricted private"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "communications between users regardless"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "of age. What? What? Why would you Why"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "would you make a encrypted private"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "messenger on a [ __ ] game that is"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "meant for kids?"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> I have no idea."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> Why the [ __ ] would you do that?"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> You know what's shocking? All you have"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "to do to wipe all the communication you"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "have with someone is unfriend them. So"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "that's what a lot of predators do. They"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "have all these messages on Roblox built"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "with their victims, they get caught or"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "whatever. They hit unfriend, you can't"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "access it anymore. The only way you"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "could, at least as far as I know, is a"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "subpoena. So I mean that's that's"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "insane. I mean that that's something"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that I've heard from detectives that"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "they think Roblox should fix. They've"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "told this to Roblox. Hey, Roblox"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "communication team that's been in touch"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "with us. Why do you [ __ ] go? Why do"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "you disappear?"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> You want to fix your platform? That"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "would be a good [ __ ] step."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> A real good [ __ ] step."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": ">> Why the [ __ ] do you have private"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "messaging capabilities on a [ __ ] game"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "that is meant for kids? Why the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "would you do that?"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "The Predator eventually coerced the"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "plaintiff into sending nudes. Few months"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "later, after successfully conditioning"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Plaintiff through months of grooming and"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "manipulation, the Predator convinced"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Plank to meet him in person. In October"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "of 2020, when Plank was only 10 years"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "old, the Predator coerced Plank to meet"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "in person. Plankiff, believing that she"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "was meeting uh someone she could trust,"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "snuck out of her home in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "the night. The predator transported"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "plaintiff to a local motel where she was"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "by five men including the predator."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Two of these people were never caught."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Two of them. This is one of the laws."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Only one of the lawsuits that are filed"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "against Roblox."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": ">> a 10-year-old was five men that they met"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "off of that app."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Two were never caught. They describe it"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "as carefully orchestrated this whole"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "abduction."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "This is what predators are doing on this"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "app."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "I'm going to read to you some of the"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "quotes that these executives at Roblox"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "um they've been telling parents."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "So, this here is Cammy Bomik. She's a"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Roblox uh VP of civility and"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "partnerships. And also just something"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "interesting to note about her. She"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "serves on the board of multiple child"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "safety boards while working for Roblox."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "That's a huge conflict of interest."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "You're working for the company under"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "legal scrutiny. Why are you like these"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "these are supposed to be organizations"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "dedicated to regulating Roblox?"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": ">> Say that. Say that one more time. Let me"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "see."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": ">> Hammy Bomic. And she she's actually"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "mentioned in a lot of these lawsuits for"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "this exact reason. So read read that"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "quote she said here."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "This is Tammy Bomik, Roblox VP of civily"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "and partnerships."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": ">> A lot of the negative in quotes. A lot"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "of the negative press has come from"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "things that have happened 5 years ago."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": ">> So, does that mean it's not relevant?"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "That that 10-year-old was 5 years ago."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> And who?"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> Tammy Balik said that. and she she works"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "for uh civility and safety at Roblox or"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "civility and partnerships. Um"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "I mean there's so many things I mean for"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "one just that that's a whole thing to"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "get into. For one that's not even true."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "A lot of the the situations making"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "headlines they have happened within the"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "last"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> You just brought up six this year"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> that happened this month. This in the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "last"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> literally this month it's only what"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "February."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": ">> Yeah. All those situations that just"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "happened within the last month. So that"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "that's what Roblox that's how they're"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "trying to downplay this to parents."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "That's how they're trying to manipulate"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "parents into staying on the platform."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "CEO of Roblox"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "CEO says predators are an opportunity to"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "improve moderation. And now let me"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "preface this. He meant this in the the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "capacity of um you know try to improve"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "safety. But how can you view a situation"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "where a 10-year-old gets"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "five men as an opportunity? I mean, that"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "is a total failure. Your your platform"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "failed at its job. And they view this as"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "an opportunity. And they actually went"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "as far as to double down on that. Um"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "Matt Kaufman um was pretty much saying"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "um see"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "Ro pretty much saying um one thing I"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "find interesting about Roblox um and"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "that people don't always think about"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "Roblox is that there are no billboards"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "when you drive up and down the highway."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "We don't have a Super Bowl commercial."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Our growth is driven by word of mouth."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "It's driven by trust of parents and"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "families. 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I mean it's they have never put"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "out a statement about any of these"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "victims that has had any genuiness like"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "we really care about what's going on. We"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "we really really are are are you know"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "are heartbroken about you know all these"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "lawsuits that are being filed against"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "our company"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "from what my attorneys have told me that"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "they they've Roblox has never even asked"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "about how any of these victims are"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "doing. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "So this is at the school that's a cult."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "I mean that you've seen the Sandy Hook"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Elementary School. How do you start?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Are those innocent people?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> They have their actual names of the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "victims above their head. Children"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "crying."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> You got a leaderboard."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> Oh my god, dude. What in the is this?"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> Police come in there. I mean, you've"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "seen the security camp footage. The kid"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "walks through this door here."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> And there was two classrooms where this"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "guy mowed down. I think it was 22"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "children."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Look at that. Look at that. There it is."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Where?"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> That's a Daniel defense."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Ah, see their legs are coming off."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> You can see their eyeballs working out"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "of their head."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> You did you hear what this [ __ ] is?"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> It's the Sandy Hook [ __ ] shoot."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. Get back."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Hey, let's make a video game where we go"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "and kill a bunch of [ __ ] kids that"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "actually happened in real life."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Every [ __ ] Could you imagine being a"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "[ __ ] kid that was at that school or a"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "parent or one of the kids that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> How do I kill?"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> How do I rotate? There we go. The rotate"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "wasn't working. There we go."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> See? Yeah. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Yeah. So, what do you do? Just run"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "around from"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> You'll see it. So, go here. Wait. Walk"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "backwards. You see that staircase? Walk"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "into that staircase to the left."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> So, just press"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> So, this is at the school. That's a I"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "mean that you've seen the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] It says Sandy Hook Elementary"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "School. How you start this game is you"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "shoot through the window like how you"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "the the Sandy Hook shooter did it."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Something's already in here so you can"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "hear the the alarms going on."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> I think that's the window right there."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "You have to shoot"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> this one."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> No to the right."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> Wait, what? You said 9year-olds."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> Nine-year-olds can throw."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> I thought I thought I thought we just"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "signed something saying we were 13,"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Um, no. Any any age can pretty much play"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Roblox."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> There you go."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> Make a lesser."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> This is awful."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Get the [ __ ] out of here."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> Are those innocent people?"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> They have their actual names of the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "victims"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "above their head. You got a leaderboard."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> Oh my god, dude. What in the [ __ ] is"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> Police come in there."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "So you could probably, you know, shoot"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the kids."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, shoot someone just to show"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "like what it does. Like it's"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> not letting me shoot."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> Press R and reload it."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> And then Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> Then you got to reload."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> Yeah. You got to"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> the M. Uh, hold on. It's just the mouse"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> I don't know. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "not working, but let's just"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> try like"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> for your life."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> See how they have blood splatter on"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "them? There's a room. So"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> they got the screens."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Yeah. No kidding. This"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> They have the actual room,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> dude. Who the [ __ ] puts their kids on"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "this [ __ ] Seriously."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> They have the actual room. A bunch of"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "kids were in a bathroom and uh the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "teachers got them in there and guy came"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "in and mowed all these kids down. They"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "they have the actual room of that in"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "this game."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> Yeah. I think they have the Yuvaldi game"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "on here, too."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Yeah, I I have that one loaded up, too."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "If you want to press escape and uh reset"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "your character to respawn"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "and hit Yeah. So, check this."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "It says the exact names of the victim,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "your your victims. Like, it's like a"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "leaderboard."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] dude."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> They have the actual names, too."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> So, Stephanie Adams was a victim that"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "was killed at Sandy Hook."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": ">> I'm not exactly sure, but I know they"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "have other names that are the actual"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "victims."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, that one's that one's pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "bad. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> where are we going now? Hit escape."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Yeah. And hit leave."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Right there."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> And there are some sick [ __ ] people."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> This X."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Yeah. And then go to there."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> This."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Hit the Rob De Bankank one. See"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "that one at the top?"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> So this is the Yuvaldi school shooting."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "The maturity is set to minimal. So I"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "believe that means any age could play"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "this. like any age on on the entire site"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "can play this recreation of the Yuvaldi"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "school massacre"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "in my opinion. I think this is the most"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "disturbing one. Just give it a second."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "It's going to load in everything for"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> This is a live chat."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> No, that's I have Discord in the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "background."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> It'll go away. Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Oh. Uh, hit X on that. That's the age"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "check system. Hit cancel."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> Check."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> Just just hit cancel."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> Okay. So, yeah, you can hit play. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "this is Rob. You can see there. So, this"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "is the actual shooter."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Unlock. Can we unlock the chat?"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Uh, there's nobody else chatting."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> So, I mean, you've seen the security"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "camp footage that the kid walks through"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "this door here. believe he starts"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "shooting at some dude"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and then he makes a right."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": ">> And then there was two classrooms where"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "this guy mowed down I think it was 22"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "children"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> and he wrote LOL in their blood."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> That's in this game like down to that"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "level of detail. Yeah. Yeah. I it I I I"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "hate to say this, but if you if you want"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "to show what actually ends up happening,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "you can you can"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> Look at that. Look at that. There it is."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Where?"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> That's a Daniel defense."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> Ah, yeah. So, just shoot someone. You'll"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "see how see their legs are coming off."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> You can see their eyeballs get squirted"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "out of their head."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Yeah. Look at that."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Dang."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Now, would it surprise you, Sean, if I"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "told you that shooters are referencing"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Roblox and their manifestos?"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "No, because it's it's a it's a in a it's"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "a [ __ ] legacy for him. It's if I do"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> my name will live forever on Roblox."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] dude."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> In one of one of the rooms that had"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> This is like the most What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> For For 30 years,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": ">> who the [ __ ] would make a game"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Yeah. where you go around and [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "kill innocent kids. That's That is"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "That's an actual event that happened."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> I"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> an actual [ __ ] event."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> I assume you remember the war on video"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "games where they were saying this is"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "what video games were, which it wasn't."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "This is now real. Like these shooter"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "games that are radicalizing kids are"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "real. I mean that that's a kid with his"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "half his body blown off by a shotgun on"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "a a recreation of it on Roblox."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "So you you can exit out of this one. I"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "think that's pretty much"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> thing on that one."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "here"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> there's an Epstein Island one too."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> Do you have that one?"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> I have a video of it."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> What does that one do? Um, it's a"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "there's actually a lot of different"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "variants. There's some that are like"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "simulator games. There's some that are"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "like war games. Uh, do the Carbine one."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "So, this is Coline on Roblox."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> So, they they have like"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> every single Do they have Covenant from"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "here Nashville?"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> I Yeah. Yep. I saw that one. Yep."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> Uh-huh."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> Look, they like they even watch it. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "wait. It's not this game. Yeah. You can"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "equip your inventory of pipe bombs, the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "same guns. You can dress up as the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "shooters."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> you just select your stuff and then you"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> choose a gun."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> And then you can also you can be either"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Eric or uh Dylan Cleold."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> There's actually a lot more on there."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "So, Ramos, I believe that was the one"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "for the uh which one was that? That was"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Evaldi, I think. So, Steven Paddock."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Yeah, these are all the different other"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Nicholas Cruz."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> So, yeah, there there's the Coline"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "School right there."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": ">> Is this like where you enter?"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": ">> This is insane, man."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Some other people are playing, I guess."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> Oh, I guess I got killed."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Kill yourself or kill all the SWAT."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "That's what it just said. Kill yourself"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "or kill all the SWAT."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> It's it's it is"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> this is almost like predictive"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "programming [ __ ] for kids."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I mean, this is what kids are"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "getting exposed to."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> Maybe it is predictive programming."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Yes. So, you're playing his uh kill"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "yourself or kill all the cops. I It's"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> This is [ __ ] crazy."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> There's one last uh game I think I want"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "him to see. Uh this one last shooter"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "game. I think this one's really bad. You"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "should probably see this. So, you"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "remember the Christ Church shooting that"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "happened in New Zealand? Here. Hit X on"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> So, you click that. So, this is the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Christ Church shooting on Roblox. M"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> um built identical to to the the real"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "life one."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "In on March 2019, you armed Righteous"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Fury and Arsenal Vengeance um pretty"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "much the mosque. You live stream your"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "crusade to purge invaders."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> You can hear that's the actual shooter."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "That's the audio from the shooter."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Didn't even put had this music"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "playing in his car on the way or"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> Yeah. You might have to reset your"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "avatar. Look like you spawn outside."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Uh, so what I do is escape and reset."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> Respawn."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Might have to rejoin."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> Yeah, we can rejoin."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Where'd it go?"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> Uh, just hit X and"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "I mean, it has the actual audio from the"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "shooting."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Objective: eliminate 44 kebabs."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "These"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "might be bugs cuz there's like more"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "people in here."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> Mhm. I've seen this happen."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> Yeah, it's bugged."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> Dang. This one was pretty bad."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> You have video of it though, correct?"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> Yeah, I I can show the video on my phone"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "or on my computer of it."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> This is [ __ ] crazy."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> it's"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "active shooter events that are now video"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "games that are telling you to kill"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "yourself or all the cops."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> Then we go into that one thing and we"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "have what, like"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> four or five people."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Yeah. It's like, you know, there was"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> some of them like right off the bat."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> It wasn't one instance. It was it was"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "multiple upon multiple upon multiple."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> So, yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> This is this is [ __ ] crazy, dude. It"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "it's it's unbelievable how this game"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "will advertise itself safe to parents"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "and platform this like it's laughably"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "insane. I mean that is so crazy."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> Yeah, that loaded."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Yeah, I think you got it. Press"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "E."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> There you go. Okay, so you spawned in."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "This is it."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> isn't it like around the corner or"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "something?"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": ">> Yeah. So you can see the dead bodies he"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "killed. Um I think you're supposed to go"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "to the van. Wait, go back. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "can tell exactly what this is."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> Uh oh."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": ">> You go to a van over here."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> I think so. To get the gun."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> Uh-oh. There's somebody else playing."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "I I I was seeing this game last night"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "and uh someone screen sharing it to me"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "and it has like photos of the actual"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "mass shooting in it."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> Yes. Yes. It has actual photos of the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "mass shooting within it."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> Unreal. All right. Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> I I have video of it, so I can just show"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Shoot shoot us that video."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Yeah, for sure."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> Very crazy. Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> I I I just I don't even know what to say"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "to that. I mean, no matter where you're"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "watching the Shawn Ryan Show from, if"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "you get anything out of this at all,"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "anything, please like, comment, and"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "subscribe. And most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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Are you"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "freaky? He's going to say,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> \"Yeah.\""}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> Are you kidding me, dude?"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> How old are you? God, dude."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> This is Tinder. I mean, this is actually"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "just Tinder on. And when you match with"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "someone, you get a private chat with"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "them. I'm I'm hard."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Holy sh What's this do?"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> So, this is Snapchat on Roblox. You'll"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "see."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Do I click this?"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I I'll show you later, but"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "people literally use this."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> What the is going on?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Literally Snapchat. I'll have you search"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "something else up."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Search up meet uh me or meet V, I think"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "that's the name of it."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> M E T."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Yeah. And then V. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Okay. And then just hit play on that."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "That's a the game next to it is a Tinder"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "game on Roblox. They have Tinder on"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Roblox."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Yeah. So, just hit start. So, we got"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "someone messaging us. Just here you can"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> already."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Oh, well. Um, you know what Omega is?"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> It It's functionally the same exact"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "game. So, just"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> click start."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> Yeah, just click start. Actually,"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "someone's trying to add you. Just hit"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "accept on that. He's probably going to"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "try to send a message, but uh you can"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "just keep hitting start until we get"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "someone who messages back."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "okay."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Keep skipping us."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> This is basically like chat roulette."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Yeah, this is chat roulette. You'll have"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "someone asking something. Say hi back."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Say what are you doing? Oh, you freaky."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Do you see that?"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Are you [ __ ] serious?"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Yeah, you freaky. Yeah, he's he's"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "wanting to"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> Are you [ __ ] serious? That was like 5"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "seconds again."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> There it is. The time."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Say yes."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Yeah, just say yes and see what he wants"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "to do."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> That was like 20 seconds."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> Yeah, 20 seconds was on the time. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "what how long it took."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Are you actually"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Let's just see what he's going to say."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "He's probably going to try to get us on"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "either Snapchat or Discord."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> He's trying to add us."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> Uh, no, I wouldn't add him. See, I did."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "You see?"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> Uh, you can just skip him, honestly. But"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "yeah, I mean, it's already there. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "already [ __ ] there."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> The"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> You just skip this guy."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. That was like the first guy."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "This guy. This is what This is what"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "people are wanting to do to your kids on"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "this game."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Hi."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> One question. Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> No [ __ ] way."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> What do you think his question? Are you"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "freaky? He's going to say,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> \"Yeah.\""}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> Are you [ __ ] kidding me, dude?"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> Yep. And then he's going to be like,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "\"You want to talk on on Snapchat?"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> We're recording this [ __ ] right?\""}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Yeah. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Do you got the sound of clock? So he's"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "talking Tik Tok."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> We can talk on Tik Tok. So he's trying"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "to get Yeah. imagine a kid Imagine a kid"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "plays this. You want to know what's"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "crazy? The chief safety officer had a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "badge on his account."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> Hold on. Tell one of these [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "you're the police. I just want to see"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "what happens."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "How are you?"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "See, maybe a normal conversation. Maybe."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Maybe."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the these are like"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> this is going to go somewhere."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> You can tell"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> I'm doing great as well. How's Roblox"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "today?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Just getting started."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> That sounds that sounds like what a"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "predator would do I I mean like that's"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> just give it a second."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> Say, uh, I'm I'm just chilling. I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "bored. I'm bored. That's usually like"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "their their go-to move. and they'll be"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "\"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> oh, here we go. Oh my god.\" Yes, I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "bored, too."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> I'll see."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> No [ __ ] way, dude."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> They're everywhere."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Every single [ __ ] person on here."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Say, what are you doing right now?"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Usually these conversations they get"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "somewhere."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> Yeah. You can tell there there's no"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "reason he's fishing or she's somebody's"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "fishing."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "They're They're waiting for a move and"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> looking for friends."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Oh, talking about how the conversation"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "is dry. So, you can see where they're"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "going for it. Say, \"What would make the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "conversation interesting?"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "There we go."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, they're they're literally"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "just trying to fishing something out of"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "you. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> Go to another one."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> Wait, what's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] dude. So, that's what I guess"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "that's a"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Oh, here you go. This is going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "someone."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Mhm. Oh, you can tell when their avatars"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "look like that, they're they're"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "specifically there to do stuff. Like"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "it's nine times out of 10"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> because it's like a fresh account."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> XXX. You see that?"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> I mean, just look at the usernames. Chat"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "in lover 6767."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "It's your favorite Ron. I mean, these"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "are It's crazy."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "See, is he going to say anything?"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Male or female?"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> Female."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> How old are you? God, dude."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Should I just say I'm like 10 or 12 or"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> I I would I wouldn't say that cuz this"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "is what they put in their she desist"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "letter. I don't Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "I'm 17. Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> I don't know what to say to that."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> H I mean I I think pretty much that gets"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the point across. All these"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> Isn't that insane?"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> They're not 17. I'll [ __ ] guarantee"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "you that."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> These are how many literally grooming"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "cases start. We We actually almost"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> every single [ __ ] person."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "We did a test and we found it was 40."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "No, it was I think it was 30% of of"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "users in this game are looking to do"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "break the rules of Roblox."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "I have another game I'd like you to"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "check out."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> Hold on. Let's see what this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "says."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Oh, it's the same guy."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> He's back."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Say why. Let's ask him why."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Roblox says this is impossible for"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "people to share personally identifiable"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "info."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Are you in the mood?"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I want I wonder. I really"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "wonder. In the mood for"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> scared him."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Scared him out."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> I mean, that's crazy, though."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] dude. Every single [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "person we've chatted with is eluding."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> That game has 122 people. Play this game"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "here. Friend me."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> This game is Tinder on on Roblox. I It"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "is literally Tinder on Roblox."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> Do I need to select any of these?"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> Yeah, just select. Yeah, you just have"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "to make a quick profile. Just select"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Okay. So, you can just see like dislike."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "It's literally this I mean this is"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Tinder. I mean this is actually just"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Tinder on and when you match with"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "someone you get a private chat with"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> Okay. So, should I match each one?"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> Yeah, you can just match people."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> See what who ends up messaging us. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "you'll see some it'll pop up. So, just"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "keep liking them. I'll tell you when to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "stop. Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "I mean the these avatars when they're"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "they're dressed like that, they they are"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "there's a whole thing on Roblox with"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "race play. It's crazy to even say that,"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> what do you mean what"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> they uh I think it's the Black New World"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Order. There's a whole thing on like"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "they they dress up like that and they"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "call themselves bulls. I It's the It's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "insane. And they they're looking for"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "snow bunnies."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Yeah. I It's It's I can't even Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "take a look at their avatars. Usually"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "they have something on them. So, that"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "one's fine. Yeah, that one's fine. But"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "usually there's like They'll say like,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "\"I'm dominant or something.\""}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> So, that's fine."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> And so, what's the point of this? Do"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "these people like meet up in real life?"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> What is this?"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> It's Tinder. So, you see that? That was"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> That was definitely something. Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "pretty much you get"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> Are these people all online too?"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> When when they like you, you get put in"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "a private. It's literally Tinder. Like"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it is functionally the same as Tinder."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": ">> I'm not a Tinderer."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. It's the same thing. Like or"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "dislike. That's That's Tinder. And then"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "when you both match, you get in a"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "private chat. So"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": ">> I'm I'm hard."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh-huh."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> And how old do you have to be to access"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "this specific game? Let's see. Um, if"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "you go to the thing, I can see it like"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "the game page on it."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Uh, like over on this."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> Oh, well, I I think Oh, when you exit"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "out, I can tell you."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> Somebody going to match us, you think?"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Or"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> I don't know. It It usually doesn't take"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "long."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "I'm What does that say?"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> When you run, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Murder Hawk. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> It's more fun when you run."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "I mean to think that your kids could be"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "playing"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> a Tinder game"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "on this site. It's advertised safest."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> Dude, just just think if I would have"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "just what did I put my screen name as?"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Just think if we would have put like I"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "don't know,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Vanessa 13."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> Oh, dude, you would you would be getting"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "so many messages."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Dude, this is crazy."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> like if there's like thousands of people"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "on here."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> Mhm. I I've seen 764 avatars in this"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "game."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> I'm a fanboy with that that sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "phase."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "can't read that."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> Says cupcake"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "something or another."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Hit the little chat button. There might"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "have been someone who's matched with you"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "by now. Okay. Mm-m."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> Takes a little bit, but usually the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "messages, I mean, they're they're pretty"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "bad pretty quickly."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": ">> I messed up the screen name."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:23", "text": ">> I'm serious."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> If you put Jessan"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Brian put Ashley 13, New Jersey."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> Oh, man."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "What's our What's our screen name?"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> Uh, hello John 767."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "I don't know what that was. That was"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "weird. But yeah. Um, here there's"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "another game you can play as well. So"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "here out of that"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "see"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "you see life together."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> So by the way that game has 640 people"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "playing it right now. The one we played"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "before has over a 100 people. And I mean"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "some of these have"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": ">> and that has 32,000."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> This one has 32,000 playing. You see the"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "logo of that? That's the Snapchat logo."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "I mean that's look"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": ">> what does that mean? you know, uh, like"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "it's it's this game has its own built-in"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Snapchat pretty much, and it it takes no"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "time to find inappropriate behavior"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "within this one. You'll see weird"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "avatars and people trying to snap you. I"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "I saw someone join this as like a fake"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "girl account and they they had like all"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "these people like sending them messages."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> So, okay, you can walk around."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": ">> That's you with the red hat."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "What do you do? Just talk to people?"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": ">> Yeah, pretty much. And you can send them"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "Snapchat messages."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> Should I just go up to somebody?"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Or let's see. Just walk around the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "map. You'll probably find something."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "These other players driving the car."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": ">> I I wish you had access to chat. You"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "probably see something."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": ">> Actually, we can't chat with people"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "right now. That's right."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> Why? Uh cuz we we don't have the age,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "but we can use the the life snap thing,"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "I'm pretty sure."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": ">> H what's this do?"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": ">> So this is Snapchat on Roblox. You'll"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "see."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> Do I click this?"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I I'll show you later, but"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "people literally use this."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> What the [ __ ] is going on?"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": ">> Literally Snapchat. Yeah. Like built"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "into the game."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> Taking a selfie."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> Yeah. And you you see you can write text"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "on it. Like if you click that, it's the"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "exact same way. Yeah. And and then you"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "can send that to people."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "So they it has this disappearing"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "messages feature where a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "they join and they like use this to kind"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "of like make nude avatars and like"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Snapchat each other."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": ">> So I could just choose anybody in the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "game and send them high."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> Yeah. So if you"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": ">> Oh to online us some of those people"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "might have logged off. So yeah you see"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "here go back real quick. see the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "message."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Okay, that's just a message."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Yeah. I have no idea why Roblox would"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "lather their own. I I'll show you some"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "like really graphic stuff of this game"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "uh in a minute, but yeah. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "it's it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "Usually, you can find like nude avatars"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "and stuff in the the lobby."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> In the lobby?"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> Tell me. like like in in the the spawn"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "of the the game."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "If there's anywhere I need to go any"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "direction."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> I don't think here. Try joining a"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "different server. You might find"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> So I go."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> Yeah. And then leave"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "and then just hit play again. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "See,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "I had someone pull there certain lobbies"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "for I had someone What does that person"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "say? Their avatar. They have like some"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "text bubbles above them. The chill girl."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> Wait, rotate it the other way."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Uh face like them forward. What? Zoom it"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "in."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> What does that say? Uh"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> oh."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> 2020."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "But yeah, I mean that that's pretty much"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "like what you can find on Roblox is"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "child predators. Takes no time to find"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "them,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": ">> obviously."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> Yeah, it is. It's pretty pretty crazy. I"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "I I can't even believe that they would"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "support a game that would allow a"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Snapchat like built within it."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. And"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "extra generous, head to Apple Podcast"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "and Spotify and leave us a"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Who was your customer? Delta, Seal Team"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "6, Rangers, Air Force Special Tactics."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Got to be part of the development of the"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Armed Blackhawk from the moment we said,"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "\"Man, wouldn't this be cool?\" to two"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "conflicts later shooting it in combat"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "for the first time."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> I went to Walmart and bought one of"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "those so I could draw. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "we weighed, but we were freaking heavy."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "We skipped down the runway, skipped"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "down, and finally took off and there's a"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "anti-aircraft gun. 2,000 pounder goes"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "off right in front of us and it was the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "F-17. They were brand new. No one even"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "knew they existed. Shortly after that,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "this incredible guy named Cliff Walcott"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "sort of enters my world. Uh Cliff was a"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Cobra guy that had been in the unit a"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "little bit longer than me. And he had"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "this idea where he wanted to turn our"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Blackhawks into attack helicopters. And"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "any other place in the world, they would"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "have said, you know, go have your"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "fantasy somewhere else. Meanwhile, just"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "go do your job. But it was the 160th and"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "he he had an ability to convince people"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "of things that I could never do. We used"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "to say he could sell coolers to Eskimos."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I mean he was it makes perfect sense."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "But that's a leap. I mean to create a"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "new this is a dramatically different"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "mission training capability and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "coming from a you know the ground up"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "I was in the right place at the right"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "time I was pretty good at what I did he"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "and I got along and I kind of became his"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "not necessarily his right-hand man but"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "pretty darn close and so got to be part"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "of the development of the armed"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Blackhawk from the moment we said, \"Man,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "wouldn't this be cool all the way to two"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "conflicts later shooting it in in combat"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "for the first time?\""}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> And I mean, again, remember this is"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "90ish."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "We're designing this thing with pencil"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "and paper. I mean, I actually went to"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Walmart and bought, you know, you buy"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "them for kids, they you can draw like"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "squares and triangles with this little"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "plastic template thing."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> I went to Walmart and bought one of"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "those so I could draw, it's basically an"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "engineering diagram of how we wanted to"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "manage the rockets and manage the guns"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "through the system in the aircraft to"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "provide to the engineers at Rockwell"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "Collins who are actually going to write"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "the software to do it. So, I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "is how primitive we are."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> We're handwriting this stuff. You know,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "I want to press on this button and it's"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "going to take me to this page and then"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "I'll get to pick from these different"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "types of rockets cuz"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> in a tube like for us, we usually carry"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "19 shot rocket pods. You could put"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "fletchettes in there, H in there, flares"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "in there. I mean, you got a mix and you"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "got to know where they are so that you"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "can pick the one you want when you pull"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "the trigger. So that's basically a, you"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "know, very basics on mission management."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "So we're designing that. We're designing"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "what we wanted the cyclic to look like"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "because we need a different grip. We we"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "can't use the grip standard grip from a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "helic a Blackhawk because it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "have enough buttons on it. So we we're"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "we're like handd drawing that. And what"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "are we going to use to uh as a site? Now"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the littleberg guys were still using"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "grease pencils. I mean, basically, you"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "would put your seat in a certain spot in"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "the aircraft and then you would count"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "the number of screws over and the number"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "of screws down and you'd put a pipper"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "right there and that's your aim point."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> And we did the same thing. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "difference with us is Cliff was the only"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "guy who had gotten formal attack"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "helicopter training. The rest of us, we"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "just learn on the fly. I mean, I never"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "went to a single formal training course"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "on how to fly an attack helicopter."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "And within a year, I'm going to be cut"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "loose flying for these units, danger"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "close, live fire, and then ultimately in"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "combat. And again, I think about the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "timing and how fortunate I was to be at"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "that place at that time and be a part of"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "all that. I mean, it it just doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "happen to be able to do that sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "thing. So anyway, we're starting to"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "develop this and early on we sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "stuck to the basics. Miniguns fix"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "forward, which they'd always been"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "capable of doing that. When they first"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "put the miniguns on there, they they"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "thought, well, in case we ever need to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "use them this way, let's come up with a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "a way that we can fix them forward with"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "some pins and then the pilots can shoot,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "you know, by with diving fire. So, that"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "was already there, but it had not really"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "been done much. And Cliff then sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "gave it a new new life. And we put the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "first thing was rocket pods. So we could"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "put actually we could have put four"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "rocket pods on there. Two on each side."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "19 rockets a piece. So that's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "that's a lot of rockets and miniguns."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "And the bird's kind of ready,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "but it's not really been signed off by"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "anyone."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "And Just Cause happens."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "Now, Just Cause before the up went down"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "was called Blue Spoon. And we've been"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "practicing this thing. I I just kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "read up on it before the we we we got"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "together today. According to this book,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "we've been practicing it for two years."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I knew it was years, but that's about"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "when I got to the unit. It was two years"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "before that. So, my whole time in the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "unit, we've been talking about Blue"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Spoon, which is Take Down Panama. And"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "just before Christmas 1989,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "all the criteria are met and we get to"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "go. And"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "it was again just"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "that mission I would argue one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "most successful we've ever done as a"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "nation. I mean 26 targets on at H hour."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Seal team 6 had multiple targets. Delta"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "rescued Kurt Muse out of Melo prison. I"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "was at Rio where we had the largest"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "airborne drop since Vietnam"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "and like 21 other targets. And it was"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "conventional forces. There was Marines,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Army, special ops, all simultaneous."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "First time the F-17s had ever been used."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "That was at Rio. I saw the bombs go off"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "and within a couple days we we took the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "place down. I mean, it was incredible."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Damn."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> And I'm flying with Donovan Bryley. By"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the way, I mentioned Cliff a couple"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "times. Cliff's the first loss in"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Somalia. He's flying with Donovan in"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Somalia. So, they're the first two"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "combat losses in Somalia."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Donovan and I are flying in just cause."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "And our mission is not glamorous. We're"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "going to fly with two Apaches and and at"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "least two little birds, maybe four."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Little birds are the H6s. And these are"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "gunirds. and we're going to go take out"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "be part of the force to take out Rio. So"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the airfield seizure is going to be done"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "by the Rangers that are on all these"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "C130s coming out of Fort Benning. I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "think it was 17 C130s."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> 17?"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Lowle drop. I think they dropped"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "somewhere around 800 ft. I mean there's"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "just Rangers falling out of the sky like"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "rain and we're right underneath it. I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "mean it was unbelievable. Again, I said"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "our mission wasn't glamorous. We were a"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "FAR bird, which is forward area re"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "refueling a rearming point. So, we had"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "developed this capability where the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Blackhawks or Shinooks could fly in,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "land, put out pumps, connect a hose to"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "our fuel tanks, and provide fuel,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "ammunition, and rockets to the little"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "birds. So, we're like a mobile gas"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "station. And then they continue to do"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "their mission. So, that was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "they don't have a long range like we do."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "We got a lot greater range than they do"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "because of the fuel that we can carry. I"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "think it's the first combat FARP we ever"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "did as a unit. I think cuz I know we"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "didn't do one in Grenada. We didn't do"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "it in prime chance. We're out in the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "ocean. So, might have been. It's not"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "necessarily anything that anyone ever"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "takes note of, but I think it was the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "first combat FARP we ever did. And you"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "know, Donovan and I,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "we take off. We're Were we leading? I"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "don't know. We were ahead of the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Apaches, but I can't remember if the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "little birds were ahead of us. I think"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "they probably were. Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "our bird is so laden with rockets. I"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "mean, we're floor to ceiling in the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "back, full of rockets, full of minigun."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "We were way over gross. I mean, meaning"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "our aircraft's too heavy. But it's"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "combat, right? And it's And yeah, I'd"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "been to Prime Chance that qualified as"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "combat, but it really didn't feel like"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "combat. This was combat. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "go punch somebody hard. And I'm like, I"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "don't give a [ __ ] how much this thing"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "weighs. We're taking it down there. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "we're skipping off the freaking runway."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "We had to take off like an airplane"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "because the aircraft was so heavy it"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "wouldn't fly. And I mean, I think we"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "broke the wire strikes off, which are"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "these little devices that hang down from"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the landing gear to in case you hit a"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "wire, it'll cut the wire. I think we"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "broke them off. But, I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "know what we weighed, but we were"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "freaking heavy. And we skip down the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "runway. Skip down and finally took off,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "start flying, get out of the ocean."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "We get down there and there's a I think"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it's a ZPU4. It was an anti-aircraft gun"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "on the end of the airfield."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "And I've read different accounts here,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "but I think it was the Apaches that were"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "supposed to neutralize that gun. So, we"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "get there at Hour, one o'clock in the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "morning."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Now, HR got moved up on a couple of"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "elements of this mission because the,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "you know, once certain things started"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "happening, this Panameanians knew this"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "shit's going down. And Kurt Muse was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "probably the most time-sensitive thing."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "So, I think they launched a little early"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "and ultimately rescued him and that's a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "whole another story. I think you had one"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "of the Delta guys on here talked about"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Vickers. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "you've covered that already. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "anyway, that was our little birds that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that were flying that mission. Uh we're"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "down literally at 1:00 a.m. and and I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "I'm in the cockpit with Donovan. I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "saying, \"Uh, I don't think it's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "happen.\" We always sort of saber saber"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "rattle and then, you know, everything"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "winds down and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "kaboom 2,000 pounder goes off right in"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "front of us and it was the F-17. They"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "were brand new. No one even knew they"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "existed."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "You had a very interesting client I"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "think in 2017, Jeffrey Epstein."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> I don't have family here. I think uh"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "this times in politics made me feel that"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "I can't fully trust people."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> What is the story on the internet? What"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "made him unusual?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> Just everything."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "They dropped two of two of those birds"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "dropped two 2,000 pounders right there"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "right near the barracks. Again, there's"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "some controversy here. They claimed"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "their mission was to just scare the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "out of the PDF, the Panameanian Defense"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Force, not kill them because the theory"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "is we get Manuel Norya out, they'll all"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "convert and they'll support the new"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "military and the new leadership and we"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "don't want to kill them all. We need"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "them, right? I think that's generally"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "the idea. There's other theories that,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "well, the F-17 couldn't hit the freaking"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "backside of a freaking barn, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "but I I don't know what the right answer"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "is. All I know is those freaking bombs"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "went off at 1:00 a.m. on the nose. And"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "that's when this AAA gun starts shooting"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "because obviously they know they're"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "being attacked. So it's firing into the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "night sky. And so we're we're over the"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "ocean. We're not far over the ocean, but"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "we're we're right there watching. And"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay, when's the Apache going"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "to take this freaking guy out?\" Because"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "these 130s are coming in. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "he's just firing into the air. And the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Apache comes on the radio and says,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "\"We're returned to base. We got"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "mechanical problems.\""}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "And 60 Minutes actually did a show on"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "this. The Apache was brand new. It's a"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "great helicopter. I'm not bashing the"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "aircraft. Anytime you feel new"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "capability, you're going to encounter"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "stuff that just didn't get tested"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "thoroughly enough or the requirements"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "were slightly off. I think primarily it"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "was a humidity issue with the black with"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "the Apaches because obviously very humid"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "in Panama, but I know there was also a"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "vibration issue where when they turned"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the turret gun, which is a 30 mm, it was"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "creating vibration that was popping"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "breakers. I think again I I don't know"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "100% sure, but all I can tell you is"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "they mission aborted like right after we"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "got there."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "And I have one regret. Actually, I have"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "a couple. We should have just maneuvered"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "our Blackhawk in and shot the [ __ ] out"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "of that AAA gun because it's"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "mechanically driven. It's not a ZSU 234"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that's got electric motors that could"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "just, you know, and then take us out."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "It's a guy cranking this freaking thing"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "and he's got and it only has so much"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "down angle that it could get we could"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "have come in right over the water and"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "just hose the [ __ ] out of those guys and"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "and taken them out. And we talked about"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> and I got talked out of it and I I"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "really wish we had. I don't think there"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "were any fatalities on the 13s, but they"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "got hit. I mean, they were they were"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "rangers that got hit and didn't lose any"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "birds, but still, you know, it it was it"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "was an opportunity where"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "I wish I would have gone with my gut,"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "which was if they're not going to take"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "care of this thing, we need to. So then"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "what talked you out of it? There was a"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "guy on board from the from the Ranger"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Battalion. He got thrown on the aircraft"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "at the last minute and he said, \"No, no,"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "you know, I I don't remember exactly"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "what he said, but there was also an"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "AC-130 there. There was little bird guns"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "there.\" And arguably that's their"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "primary mission is to take out [ __ ] like"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "this. You know, that really shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "our mission, but they weren't doing it."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "And the book I read said the AC-130 took"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "it out."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "I I I don't know if that's actually what"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "happened. It ultimately stopped, but"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "[ __ ] I thought they ran out of ammo."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "That's how much they freaking fired."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "And so at this point, the airdrop"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "started. So our job now is to go land"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "where we're supposed to and set up this"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "forward area rem arming a refueling"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "point. And we're close to the airfield."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "So I'm thinking all these freaking PDF"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "guys that are, you know, vacating the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "barracks and and hightailing it are"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "going to overrun us if we stay here too"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "long. So, and we had to shut the bird"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "down because we're burning a lot of gas"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "sitting there with the blades running."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "So, we shut the bird down. We still got"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "the auxiliary power unit running because"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "that powers the pumps. And, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "that lets us get off the ground fairly"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "quickly, but it's going to take two or"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "three minutes if we got to crank the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "engines."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "So, we're obviously, you know, we got"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "we're on we got a crew chief on the"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "guns. We got our weapons out because"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "we're still in the cockpit. We're not"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "we're not getting out of the cockpit."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "And we put the rockets all out there and"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "the little birds come in and they land"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "and we refuel them. They hadn't fired"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "yet so they don't need any ammo. So they"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "drain us. I mean we basically got only"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "enough fuel to get back. And uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "like, \"Okay, do we just leave these"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "rockets laying here or do we just put"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "them back on the bird and take them"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "back?\" And I think you know we No, we"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "put them back on the bird and took them"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "back. So, we had refueled them, which"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "basically gave them one ammo load and"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "and two bags of gas to work with. I know"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "they did engage targets. I know they"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "supported the the airfield seizure."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Somewhere in there, a chip light comes"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "on. So, this is like in your car where"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "you get an check engine light, which"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "means there's a piece of metal that has"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "been detected within the main"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "transmission, which now I'm thinking,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "\"Oh [ __ ] we overstretched the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "transmission and it's starting to come"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "But I'm like, we can't shut this thing"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "down here. I mean, we're gonna the PDF"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "is they some of them got to come this"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "way and you know, they're going to"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "stumble upon us or we're going to be in"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "a firefight on the ground. And so I"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "decided we're going to fly this back. So"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "we we crank it up,"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "fly back, land it on the airfield. Turns"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "out the transmission wasn't trashed. It"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "was just probably,"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "you know, like if you run a a"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "transmission in a vehicle in a gear"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "that's never been used much. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "there's a a metal shard or something"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "that wears wears off and ends up in the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "oil. Well, that's what these chip"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "detectors are designed to detect and"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "it's got a magnet in there and it'll"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "attract it. That's probably what"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "happened. We we put this thing in a mode"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "that it hadn't been in. It's not a gear,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "but it, you know, the weight of the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "aircraft put it in such a such demand on"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "it that uh uh it caused the chip to come"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "loose. So anyway, we make it back, land"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "on the airfield, find out about all the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "other [ __ ] that went down, find out"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "about the whole Kurt Muse mission, how"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "that went, which I think was also the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "first uh rescue of an American uh that"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Delta did. I'm not 100% sure on that,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "but I think it was. And uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "it's all good news. High fives all"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "around"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "and then we rack out for the night. And"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "then, you know, obviously leadership's"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "got to figure out where do we go from"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "here? What's next? Well, Nor egg is not"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "caught, right? He's on the loose. And"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "so, we're going to split up into two"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "primary elements. Seal Team Six is going"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "to go on the other end of the canal,"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "Cologne, and Delta's going to stay on"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "this side of the canal. And we're going"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "to conduct ops when we get good intel."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "So I go to the clone side with six and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "we probably did I don't know four direct"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "action missions where we you know taking"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "down targets. It was really bizarre for"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "me is that when I was enlisted"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "in military intelligence I lived in"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Cologne. So we're flying all around"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "places I used to go to now taking down"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "targets. I mean there's where I used to"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "live. That's the bar we used to go to"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "and all that. It was just"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> crazy weird. Wow."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> To be uh to be doing all that."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": ">> And I got to tell you one story uh about"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "a mission that the circumstances are"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "somewhat similar to what ends up"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "happening on the bin Laden mission which"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "obviously I was not part of. So we're"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "coming in. We got, you know, dudes in"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "the back. This the SEAL team six guys."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "We're taking down a target."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "I don't know if the I don't remember if"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "the weather changed or we came in from a"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "different direction, but the wind"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "direction was not what we thought it was"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "going to be. And in a helicopter, if you"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "happen to be downwind of your buddy's"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "rotor wash, that's not a good place to"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "be if you're trying to hover because the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "air is already disturbed and it's"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "already, you know, wants to suck you"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "down. Basically, if you're ingesting all"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "of that, especially if they're higher"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "than you, and you're you're getting all"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "that downflow, your blades can't bite, I"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "guess, is the simplest way to think"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "about it. So, we're supposed to fast"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "rope our seals into a tennis court. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "I come to a hover, I was flying, and I"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "don't have enough power. I mean, again,"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "I don't know if it's cuz now we got a"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "tailwind. We thought we'd have a"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "headwind, but I just don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "power. And there's nothing I can do"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "except the thing's going to the ground"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "whether we like it or not. And the crew"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "chiefs are our eyes and ears in the back"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "and they're calling me down. You know,"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "tail right, tail left, meaning, you"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "know, if there's something back there"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "that I can't see, they're the ones that"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "are guiding me around this stuff."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": ">> And I'm pretty sure we landed right on"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "the net because the net obviously is"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "going to squash."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": ">> And I know the the operators are like, I"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "thought we were open. and and all of a"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "sudden we're just elevatoring down to"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "the ground, but somehow the blades fit"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "inside the fence around the tennis"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "court. Again, I credit the crew chiefs."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "I mean, they're the ones I'm doing what"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "they're telling me to do. I can see in"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "front, but I can't see very well to the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "sides, and I definitely can't see the"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "back. And they guided me all the way"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "down, got it on the ground. Guys got"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "out. Now I got plenty of power cuz all"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "the weights out and we took off. You"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "know, again, when you think about your"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "career in military aviation, it's those"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "moments that"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "by a hair you're still here or you could"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "have been another name on the wall, you"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "know? I mean, just"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "it's not necessarily skill, it's fate,"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "it's luck, it's timing, it's you name"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "it. It's it's somewhat random, you know."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "And there were many many many times in"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "that that career flying where one"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "variable was different and I'm on the"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "wall and"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "I'm I'm fortunate that I'm not."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> So we don't have Manuel Noriega yet and"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "a commander says, \"Hey, Green Platoon"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "starting again. We hadn't reached a"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "point where we have permanent staff in"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Green Platoon. So, I got to go back and"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "be an instructor to teach this class"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "because we got students ready to go. And"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "I'm like, \"All right, I miss Christmas"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "already. Things are kind of winding"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "down. We don't know where the hell.\" We"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "called him Elvis, too. Every time we've"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "chased somebody, we've called him Elvis."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "And, you know, we're getting Elvis"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "sightings all over the place. But, I"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "don't remember. I don't think we found"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "out he was in the Papa Nunia yet. But"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "either way, you know, this thing is kind"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "of wrapping up, so I'm gonna go. And I"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "mentioned fatalities. We lost a Little"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "Bird doing a gun run. Uh Sunny Owens and"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "uh Hunter was his last name. And again,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "unit was small. So even though they're"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Little Bird gun guys, we knew them well."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": ">> they they got shot down, crashed, and"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "both died."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": ">> Damn."}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": ">> And uh you know, all that happened in"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "those in those first few days. No matter"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "where you're watching the Shaun Ryan"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Show from, if you get anything out of"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "this at all, anything, please like,"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "comment, and subscribe. 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Uh"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "I think that"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "you know couple that with what you had"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "read earlier about the Norwegian"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "scientist"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "that narrative is starting to unravel."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "A lot of what was"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "kind of put they put their hat on, hung"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "their hat on was the fact that this"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "technology"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "doesn't exist. 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So that's in 2020."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "In 2022,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "in January, they provide the CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "provided the interim report to that the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "analytical cell basically produced"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "um that the health results are not the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "result of a foreign adversaries global"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "campaign against our officers. You"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "remember we just talked about the fact"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that I was called in and said, \"Look,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "we're we're going to we're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "cover this up. It's got to be the the"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the building over the people.\" That's"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "the result of that. when they said no,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "not not a a global campaign. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "adversaries not likely behind this and"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "you know, nothing nothing to really kind"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "of see here. However, they did allow the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "clause saying, well, we can't rule it"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "out still that some of the cases might"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "have been impacted or or part of a an"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "operation. So, there was that little bit"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "of elastic cause."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "Um, this drew a response from oversight"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "saying, \"Wait, wait, wait, hold on a"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "second. This is literally counter to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "what you had briefed us to in private"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "that this is an issue that we must look"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "at. Now you're kind of saying this.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "oversight themselves was raising an"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "eyebrow on that. And they also were"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "like, \"Why are you releasing this report"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "now when there's an expert panel report"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "going to be released in 10 days? Why"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "don't you link these two up? So 10 days"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "later, the uh experts panel, IC experts"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "panel of all the scientists and"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "everybody else looking at it, they"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "basically reaffirmed their findings from"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "2020, saying that pulse electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "energy particularly in the radio"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "frequency range plausibly explains the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "core characteristics although gaps still"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "exist. So they basically said, \"Wait,"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "no, we're we believe what we said in"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "2020. Despite what the A, the interim"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "ICA said 10 days prior, we still believe"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "this.\" Um, so there was there's already"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "starting to be that that division. And"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "these are the experts. These are the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "ones that are actually the scientists,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the medical doctors,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "uh, the ones that are are doing a real"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "investigation on this. They're not"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "they're not analysts that are looking"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "at, you know, stuff on a computer"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "screen."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Um, in March of 23,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "there was an updated ICA, which is an"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "intelligence community assessment,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "doubling down further on the January 22"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "ICA, basically saying that foreign"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "government is very unlikely to be"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "involved in the attacks."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "So they're further kind of going down"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "the path of"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "not foreign adversaries involved in"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "I still think they left a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "room saying that well maybe not for all"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "of them but it it was clear that they"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "were going down that this isn't real. No"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "foreigner adversaries behind this."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Then in March of 24,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "we see uh the NIH publish their report"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "that was in JAMA."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Um basically saying that it couldn't"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "repeat the PEN study and that they"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "really couldn't say this was real. Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "I looked at the supplements and I looked"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "at the data and I'm not an expert and"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "I'm obviously my brain is not there and"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "I could look at those supplements which"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "is real data and say wait a second that"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "doesn't match the text at all. that"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "data. I can see it. There's stuff in"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "there. There's stuff in this data that"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "is clearly not in the in the text,"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "right? And it's there's something way"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "off with this."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Uh that study was"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "cancelled"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "6 months later, five or six months later"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "because the internal review board at the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "NIH found coercion of participants."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "However, that that JAMA article still"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "exists. I don't know why that hasn't"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "been pulled down. That's it's it's very"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Um, but if I was Dr. Badachari, I would"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "I would definitely"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "drill down and find out what happened"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "and what was going on to make sure that"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "that that organization was not used"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "whether wittingly or unwittingly by the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "intelligence community or US government"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "uh to basically put out covert"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "influence. I would I would drill down if"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I was him on on that. So I think it's"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "fascinating that that study was then"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "retracted not retracted but canled five"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "months later because of coercion."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> Interesting to note too once again"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "history rhymes. We go back full circle"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "almost to what we talked about at the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "very beginning, which was the Moscow"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "signal"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "after Ambassador Staceil,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "you know, pitched the fit and told the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "embassy staff and,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "you know, kind of got out and the papers"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "did go crazy a little bit and there were"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "investigations. they did launch a study,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "USG study that John's Hopkins was kind"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "of the the head of"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "um their finding was basically"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "microwaves don't harm people, nothing to"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "see here, and basically shut everything"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "down. So, I think that rhymes a lot with"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "what happened in the in the with the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Moscow signal incident as well. And that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "was kind of the third leg of the stool"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "is they referenced that later on in an"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "ICA saying this can't be real because"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "NIH says it's not real. So you're basing"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "that third leg of the stool on"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "on a study that that I would say is"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "fraudulent or or coerced."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "So there's no more legs in the stool"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "left. But we'll keep going. Uh in"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "November of 24, I attended a"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "unclassified meeting with at that time"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the Biden National Security Council"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "uh in the situation room."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Hi, I'm Sarah Adams, the host of"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Vigilance Elites, The Watch Floor, where"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "we highlight what matters. It became a"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "permissive state. Explain to you why it"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "matters and then aim to leave you"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "feeling better informed than you were"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "before you hit play. Terrace hostile"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "intelligence agencies"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "organized crime. 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That was what they"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "told us, you know, was going to be"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Uh and I obviously was like I yes"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "very hard but I think this is important."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "I want to you know give this new"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "administration um you know leg up on"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "this. It was very interesting though"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "when they brought us all in there."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "There's only a handful of us"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "they said we believe you."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "We believe you. We know it's true. We"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "know we're being lied to."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "We're extremely sorry. We've never seen"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "treatment of people injured so badly"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Um, you know, help us create some points"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "to give to the new administration."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "We would actually"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "like to put something out in in the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "press about this."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Great. So, so we went through the"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "meeting was about five four five hours"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "long. it was was a marathon, but we"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "highlighted all of the things, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "things they didn't know. Um, and a lot"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "of things to to look at and take on"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "board. So, all in all, it was it's a"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "very critical kind of moment because"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "that's the first time anybody in a"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "senior position or or in that level"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "said, \"We will we believe this is real."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Help us kind of figure this out.\""}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "The public uh thing got squashed. the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "national security adviser at the time"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "got to his desk and immediately was was"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "killed. Never never never made it out"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the the public acknowledgement of of"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Uh so that was that was immediately"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "killed on that one."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Right after that,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "very very closely on the heels of that,"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "uh, we see in December of 2024,"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "um, HIPSY chairman Rick Crawford"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "publishing their interim investigative"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "report,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "which basically stated that the ICA"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "lacked analytical integrity. The IC had"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "obstructed Hipsy's investigation, the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "House President Select Committee on"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Intelligence."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "the IC experts panel was more plausible"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "like we had had talked about and that a"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "foreign adversary was likely behind some"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "of the incidents. That is in a nutshell"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "based off of the the investigation that"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "oversight had done independent"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "of anything else and that was the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "conclusion that they had reached on that"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "independently on their own."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "then see so January 25 so just what two"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "months after Hipsy comes out with their"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "interim findings."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "basically they they kind of triple down"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "again on the A,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "but this time there are"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "two organizations that that change their"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "opinions of it and basically judges that"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "there's a roughly even chance a foreign"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "actor has used a novel weapon or"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "prototype. Uh, and the other component"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "says there's a roughly even chance a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "foreign actor has developed the novel"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "weapon. So now we're starting to get a"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "little bit of dissension"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and this is interesting timing because"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "what was the report that I think the"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "news article said was that this was"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "purchased when at the very end of the"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Biden administration which would have"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "been right about the time that we met"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "with the Biden and"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "right about the time you know the hips"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "released their their long investigation"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "on that. But what's the most interesting"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "I think about this is"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "this device if you know 2024 at the end"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "in the Biden administration and this ICA"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "was pushed out in January of 25. They"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "knew about that. They knew about this"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "device yet they still pushed out this"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "nothing to see here. no foreign"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "adversary involved in that despite, you"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "know, you would think that if there was"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "some integrity, you'd say, \"Wow, we need"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "to re-evaluate and look at everything"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "now that this is, let's wait and take a"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "look at this and see what's going on.\""}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Um, you know, maybe we need to revisit"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "what we thought was true. Not at all."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "They doubled down and pushed that out."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and the NSC was"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "they were a bit confused on why it was"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "even pushed out in the first place. No"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "one asked for it."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "So, I'm not so sure even that I see knew"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "about some of that. But"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "it's interesting because they did push"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "that out and they did it knowingly. And"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "I have a problem with that. Um because"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "if there is an intent a knowing intent"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "to deceive the public whether that's"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "through the intelligence intelligence"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "community assessment the ICAS that we we"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "talked about whether that is through"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "medical records whether that's through"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "influencing"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "any sort of you know publications or"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "media that's co that's covert influence"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "against the American public."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "There's hardly a greater sin when it"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "comes to"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "uh activity from from the organization"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "than to uh collect or influence the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "American people. Collect on or influence"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the American people. That is a that is a"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "cardinal sin you cannot recover from and"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "rightfully so."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": ">> But I I think there needs to be a"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "serious look at whether that took place."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "I would argue it did, especially in"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "light of of what you just read and the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "timing that we just went over for that."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "Uh I also got a chance to sit down with"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "um the the Trump NSE"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "shortly around or after that time period"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "about March April time time frame"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "just to just to briefly talk about my"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "story. I couldn't couldn't be in in"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "there because it was a very high level"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "classified discussion. But, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "they were very they were very, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "moved and and"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "were adamant that they wanted to to help"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "and do something about that. I also got"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "to sit down with a closed door session"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "with both sides of HIPSY. So, it was"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "pretty full. Uh, so both, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "minority and and majority members."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "there wasn't a real division among them."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "They they I think they generally viewed"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "this as a bipartisan issue."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "that's behind closed doors. Obviously in"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "public politics seems to take a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "different bend, but there's I think some"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "willingness and o and oversight on both"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "sides to address these issues."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "uh to just this issue,"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "but obviously they hit headwinds when it"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "comes to,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "you know, getting the truth out, which"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "you say, why why that doesn't make any"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "sense. Why why is that? But I think"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "that's where we are. But I can't speak"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "highly enough about some of the efforts"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "done by oversight, especially by"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Chairman Crawford. And I know that he"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "doesn't have a lot of support because it"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "is, you know, sticking your neck out and"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "trying to get the truth out there."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "But he really has been focused on on"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "this effort uh even when it's been very"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "unpopular because he he does stick up"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "for the truth and in the end you know if"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "our Shakespeare has taught us anything"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "the truth do out"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": ">> you know from the merchant of Venice but"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "uh they're still on it they're still"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "fighting so there is is hope on that"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "despite a lot of of the pressure to to"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "go against that"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "um but I think it is really kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "important to look at some of the"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "timeline and some of the stuff that's"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "been pushed out there for the American"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "public"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "how especially with these last couple"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "reports"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "those that that three-legged stool has"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "no no legs left and it's beyond absurd I"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "think now that we continue to say that"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "that this isn't this isn't real"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "um it's absurd all Right."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> I I I I"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": ">> This is a scary [ __ ] interview. I"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "there are"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "weapons that are"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "that are frying our brains."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "The CIA is lying about it. The CIA told"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "you they would willingly lie to"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "Congress."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "That means you can't trust anything that"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "comes out of their mouths from this"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "point forward."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "Nothing."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> I would agree."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> I would agree."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": ">> Who is running that? Where does the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "directive come from? It's obviously I"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "mean it's it's"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "it's a rogue organization. How many"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "rogue organizations do we have? Are they"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "all rogue organizations?"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> I think it could."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": ">> Can we trust anything? I think it goes"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "back to, you know, kind of that"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "accountability piece as well. No, we"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "can't because there's no accountability."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching the Shan"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "Ryan Show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "of this at all, anything, please like,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "comment, and subscribe. And most"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "extra generous, head to Apple Podcast"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "and Spotify and leave us a"}]

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The last thing I do as a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "commanding officer is I'm going to make"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "sure that you become the admiral's aid."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "No one wants to be the admiral's aid, of"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "course, because uh you know, it's an"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "administrative job."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "there's a reason why he wanted me to go"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "be the admiral's aid. And it is because"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "at that point in time, at that moment, I"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "was going to come straight off the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "battlefield. You know, this is 2003,"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "2004. There hadn't been that many"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "platoon gone over there. I'm going to go"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "straight off the battlefield and work"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "directly for the admiral. And that's"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "what they want. They want somebody that"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "has fresh combat experience that can"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "tell him what is happening."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "And I, you know, I did all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "excuses and tap dancing to try and get"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "out of it, but uh it was it was"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "happening. So, and and you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "part of it is it's very"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "it's outstanding professional"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "development because you're going to see"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "things that you would not see"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "without doing it."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "So, I that's what I get. I get home uh"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "from deployment and I check in to be the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "admiral's aid and"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "yeah it was uh it was definitely a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "wakeup call because"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "you know we always we had a thing was if"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "you know avoid wearing a uniform at all"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "costs if you have to wear it make it"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "perfect right that was kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "thing that SEAL team won and I was"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "really good at avoiding wearing a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "uniform like I anyway like to wear a"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "shirt at work, you know, as little as"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "possible."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "And the first trip I went on with the"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "admiral, I think I had four uniforms"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "with me, like khakis for the Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "camies for Fort Bragg,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "dress blues for a ceremony, and civilian"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "clothes."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "That's like one trip."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> Damn. So I check in to be the admiral"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "you know it was definitely an eye"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "openener of what's happening in the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "community and what's going on and what's"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "happening at that that level"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "it was yeah a massive learning"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "experience and again you know I had the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "E E5 mafia language down now I learned"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "the officer language and now I was"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "learning I don't know what to call the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "next level up of officer language but"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "it's like"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> flag officer language"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> flag officer language"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "because for that year I was in the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Pentagon I was you know and you'd be"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "it's weird when you're an aid it's kind"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "of like you don't exist but you do and I"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "don't mean that in a bad way. My boss"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "was a great guy. He was you know just a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "great guy, nice guy. cared about me a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "lot. But like when you're in a room with"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "a four-star general, like the aids are"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "kind of these subhumans in the back, but"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "you're listening to everything. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "seeing everything. And so it was a very"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "educational experience as to what's"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "happening at those levels. You know,"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "you're going to meetings at the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "um JC, like just really educational."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> A lot of inside baseball going on."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Yeah. And you know, for for us and the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "SEAL teams,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "we don't realize often how much"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "visibility we have, especially back"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "then. Look, and I guess now it's pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "obvious we have a lot of visibility."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "But back then, you know, you wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "think that a E5 in a SEAL platoon doing"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "something dumb on Liberty"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "would get a phone call"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "to the admin"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> from the vice CNO or the CNO or the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "SECNAV. Like these things are a big"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "deal."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "so that's what I learned. I learned the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "amount of scrutiny that we're under. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "the SEAL team five guys,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "they had a"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "someone in that platoon"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "uploaded digital pictures of their"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "deployment to a website that was"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "supposed to be secure that got breached."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "And so these pictures went out over the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "internet and the pictures. So, I'm there"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "when the CNO is calling the admiral to"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "ask him about each of these individual"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "pictures. What is going on in these"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "pictures? And implied in that was like,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "what is wrong"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "with your troops? Example, there's a"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "image of a guy, an Iraqi guy. He's being"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "held by the jaw and he's got a a pistol"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "to his head with a flashlight in his"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "eyes."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "And the CNO is like, \"What is going on"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "in this picture?\""}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "And the admiral like hits the mute"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "button and I'm like, \"Sir, they don't"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "like to have their picture taken. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "you got to face their picture to the"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "camera. You got to face their face into"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "the camera.\" And the light is so that"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "you can illuminate the camera. You can"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "illuminate the picture. That's why the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "closest flashlight you got is in his"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "pistol. That's what he's doing. Boom."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Admiral tells him what's going on. [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> Next picture. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "a guy with a sandbag over his head,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "cuffed, blood coming out of the sandbag."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "What's going on with this picture? Hey"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "sir, that guy resisted. He got subdued."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "He probably could have been shot, but"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "our troops are disciplined. And instead"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "of shooting him, they captured him. They"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "had to subdue him. they used uh minimum"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "force required and now they've got him"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "handled and now they take a picture of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "it. So like these little things where I"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "realized that's the level of scrutiny"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "we're under. And"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "that's why again when I became a troop"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "commander being able to translate and"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "explain to the guys what is going on and"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "what the visibility is and how much it"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "matters what you do as a E4 as a E5 in a"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "SEAL platoon. It has a strategic impact"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the nation in some cases and that was"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "really clear with like Abu Grae but also"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "for the SEAL community and if we are not"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "professional"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "we don't get work and that's not"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "I'm not saying that um for the benefit"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "of the SEAL teams I'm saying that for"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the benefit of the country because SEALs"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "are good at what we do And if we're not"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "getting jobs that we should be getting"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "because of these kind of ancillary"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "actions, it's bad for the country. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "bad for our war fighting capabilities."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "So, I learned a lot about that when I"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "was when I was the admiral's aid. And"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "you know, there's another there's"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "another couple huge cases. There was um"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "there was, you know, I got to hear about"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "what was happening from a legal"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "perspective. Like there were some guys"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "that shot someone. This wasn't SEALs."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "This was army guys. Regular army guys,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "conventional army guys shot someone in"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "south of Baghdad somewhere. And I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "quote me on the story, but they had"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "planted a gun on him."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "And they they they were going to jail."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Like they were un under trial for"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "murder."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "And I just would hear that and go,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "\"What? What were these guys thinking?\""}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "You know, why why would they be doing"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "this? And they the immediate answer is,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "\"Well, because they're afraid they're"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "going to get in trouble, right? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "they're afraid that the ROE didn't allow"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "them to shoot this guy and now they're"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "trying to cover it up.\""}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "The reality of this scenario is the ROE."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "If someone is"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "uh there I'm trying to think of the"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "exact terminology, reasonable certainty"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "that they're committing"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "hostile intent, not a hostile act,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "hostile intent. So if I think you're"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "going to do something and I'm reasonably"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "certain of that, I can shoot you whether"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "you have a gun or not."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> Mhm. And yet we have guys, this this"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "particular case, these guys were getting"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "in trouble because"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "they planted a gun. They didn't need to"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "do that. So that was like another just"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "learning about how much scrutiny the"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "military So like I initially saw like,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "oh, there's the the the SEAL teams is"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "under scrutiny, but then I realized it's"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "not just the SEAL teams. There's a lot"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "of scrutiny on everything that we do."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "and the Abu Grab scandal"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "that caused so many people that that"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "fueled the insurgency so much and I saw"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "that it fueled the insurgency. So what a"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "couple, you know, 18, 19, 20-year-old"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "privates were doing in a prison fueled"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the insurgency."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> You had a very interesting client, I"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "think in 2017, Jeffrey Epstein."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> I don't have family here. I think uh"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "this times in politics made me feel that"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "I can't fully trust people."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> What is the story on the internet? What"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "made him unusual?"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> Just everything"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "and the the al-Qaeda took advantage of"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "it. They propagated those pictures. They"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "propagated those pictures from Team"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Five. Like that's what happens. And so I"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "guess I realized how the tactical"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "actions of our units, SEAL teams,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Marines, Army soldiers has a strategic"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "impact and we have to think about what"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "we're doing."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "That is something I never thought of."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Where does the scrutiny come from?"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I mean, it's the law of armed conflict,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "right? It's like the the Geneva con"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "convention, the law of armed conflict."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "There are people that are in place to"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "make sure that we are conducting war in"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "a forthright and just manner. If there"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "is such a thing, you know, can we go"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "back to the quote from uh from"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Apocalypse Now, like you know, handing"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "out charges for murder around here is"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "like handing out speeding tickets at the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Indianapolis 500. You can take that"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "approach, but it's not going to help"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> It's not going to help you. you there's"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "there's rules and we have just got to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "follow the rules and if the rules don't"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "make sense then you got to raise your"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "hand and say hey these rules don't make"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "sense and I did that for instance and I"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "brought this up earlier breaching"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "so when I first got to Iraq that first"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "deployment we're breaching every door of"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "course right well so is everybody else"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "everyone's just breaching the hell out"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "of everything you're going to enter a"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "building you breach the door because it"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "gives you a tactical advantage"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "So guys, civilians were getting injured"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "by breaches. And eventually they said,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "\"Hey, no more breaching. No more"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "explosive breaching. It's done.\""}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "So I get this word and you know I talk"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "to my guys. No more explosive breaching."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "And you know what's their reaction going"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "to be?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Not good."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> Totally not good. Right. Hey, and and"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "it's exactly what"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "it's exactly what you would think it"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "would be. Hey, wait a second. You want"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "us to be at more risk. You don't care"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "about us. You don't understand what it's"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "like down here. This is a problem. You"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "You don't You don't understand the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "battlefield. Screw you. That's basically"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "the response."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "So, and I'm thinking the same thing,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "right? But now am I thinking, \"Wait a"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "second. Does my boss want to put my guys"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "at risk? What do you think? Really? Does"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "my boss want No. No. Actually, no. I"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "don't believe my boss wants to do that."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "There's got to be something else going"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "on. Hey boss, what's the deal with"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "explosive breaching? Why are we being"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "told we're not why are you telling me we"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "can't explosively breach anymore? And"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "he's like, here's what's happening."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Here's the amount of casualties from"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "breaches. Here's the civilians injured"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "by breaches. Here's, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "number of breaches that are happening"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "every night in Baghdad or the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "surrounding areas. And the civilian"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "casualties are so high that"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the generals are saying, \"Don't do this"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "anymore.\" And I said, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Now, boss, if I'm going onto a target"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "where the intel represents a higher"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "probability of there being some kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "resistance on the target, can I breach?"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "And he's like, what do you mean? I said,"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "well, if I get this intel that says that"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "they're expecting the them to have"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "bodyguards or they expect there to be"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "IEDs, can I use breach explosive"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "breaches to mitigate that risk? And he's"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "like, yeah, that makes sense. And that's"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "what we did. And that's also when we"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "started doing call outs, which initially"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "guys were"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> guys were doing call outs."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> All the way back then."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": ">> Yep. We started doing them."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] I did not start doing call"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "outs and it was like we were figuring"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "out how to do it. Okay. What are we"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "going to do? Because from my perspective"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "now, all right, so I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "explosively breach this door. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "not going to really have the element of"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "surprise that we want because when we"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "sitting there with a sledgehammer or"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "what even a lockpick is or you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "anything's going to make noise. We're"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "going to alert them that we're there."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "So, now we got guys in the stack or"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "waiting outside this building. They're"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "not behind cover. This is a problem. How"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "can we mitigate that risk? Well, since"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "we have to wake them up to breach the"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "door anyways with a freaking"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "sledgehammer, let's just get a little"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "safe distance, set up our vehicles, and"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "wake them up and say, \"Hey, you got to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "come out.\" And that's exactly what we"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "started doing. And then, so what we"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "ended up with was a good variety of"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "tactics of sometimes we do a call out,"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "sometimes we just mechanically breach"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "the door, and sometimes we explosively"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "breach the door. But all those things"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "were a result of me talking to my boss"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "and then talking to the guys and saying,"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "\"Guys, here's why we can't breach. This"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "is bullshit.\" Oh, okay. Well,"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "we can't. Oh, there's a hu super high"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "risk. Explain that risk to me. And they"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "explained to me, \"Yeah, you know what? I"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "agree with you guys. Boss, we're going"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "to explosively breach tonight.\" Boss"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "says, \"Cool.\" My boss never told me no."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Um, so those kind of things"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "I think again where we get into the hey"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "do just do what I'm telling you to do"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "both up and down the chain of command. I"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "don't want my I want my guys to resist"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "me. I want them to say we should be able"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "to explosively breach. Okay, tell me"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "why. And I should be able to look at my"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "boss. Here's why. And by the way, if my"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "guys explain to me, hey, we should"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "explosively breach and here's why. and I"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "explain it to my boss and my boss says"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "no. Okay, do I have an argument?"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "No. Okay. Well, then how can I mitigate"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "this? Well, I can mitigate it by not"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "stacking my platoon up in front of the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "door or outside the building and doing a"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "doing a call out. So, those kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "things I think get lost when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "communicating up and down the chain of"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "command."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": ">> I got a question for you. I mean earlier"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "when we were talking I can't remember at"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "what point we brought this up but we"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "were talking about leadership. I believe"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "you you you"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "had just gotten through OCS. Anyways you"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "had said that"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "trust your guys and that's how they"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "trust you right and so"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "big proponent of that."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "How do you just trust your guys? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "do they have to earn your trust or do"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "you give them the trust and let them"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "[ __ ] that up"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> or give them the opportunity to [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "that up? I'm asking because"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "for my own I'm learning."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": ">> I want to learn from you."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> The way you do it is a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "trust at a time. So, if you started"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "working for me, I wouldn't be like,"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "\"Hey, Sean, we got this op tonight. Why"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "don't you take lead on that? I'm gonna"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "sit in the talk."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> I've never worked with you before and"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "I'm just going to let you go take lead"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "on a mission.\" No, it's like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "Sean, we got this op tonight. Can you"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "run external security for me?\" Or, \"Can"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "you clear this back, you know, outouse"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "with your fire team?\" And you're like,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "\"Cool, got it, boss.\" And you do it, you"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "do it well. And then the next time, hey,"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "you're in charge of external security."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "And the next time, hey, you're in charge"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "of vehicles. The next time, hey, you're"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "in charge of the breach team. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "like, I'm going to give you a little"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "more trust each time. And then you keep"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "making good calls. Maybe sometimes I"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "have to tighten you up. Like, hey, what"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "were you doing going to clear this other"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "building that wasn't part of the target?"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "Yeah, but I saw a guy over there. But I"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "don't care about that. But it you didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "tell me. Yeah, but I didn't have time."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "Well, what if we have a blue-on blue"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "because of this? Oh, good point."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": ">> So, you know, you learned a little bit."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "I took a little bit of risk. Maybe a"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "little bit of a little outside the zone."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "So, that's what you do. Just a little"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "bit of trust at a time. You build it."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "Build it overtime. But I have to trust"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "you. And actually, what's funny is I"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "thought where you were going with that"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "question is if my guys are telling me"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "like we need to explosively breach this"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "target,"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "do I have to trust them? And the answer"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "is, yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": ">> Well, I mean, then you get a guy like me"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "that works for you and we have to"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "explosive breach every single [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "time. How do you trust me?"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": ">> Yep. And then I go, \"Hey, hey, Sean,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "if we do another one of these"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "explosively explosive breaches, we're"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "probably not going to get approved for"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "our next missions.\""}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": ">> And you go, \"What do you mean?\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "\"Well, they've had a bunch of collateral"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "damage. They've had a bunch of people in"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "the in the Baghdad General Hospital that"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "are wounded civilians from breaching"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "charges and we're just going to get told"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "no."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "So now what are you going to do? I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "tell I'm I trust you, but do you trust"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "me?"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> Mhm. And okay, well that makes sense,"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "Joo. Okay. Can we mitigate it? How can"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "we mitigate it?"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "Well, we could do a call out. We could"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "throw flash crashes through the windows."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Like there's a bunch of ways we could"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "figure out ways to mitigate things, but"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "if I don't talk to you and you don't"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "talk to me and I don't explain to you"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "what's happening, how can we expect to"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "be aligned? It's just not going to"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "happen. And so that that open-mindedness"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "and having good relationships with"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "people is what it's all about. And by"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "the way, this extends to like the other"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "units that you work with,"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "right? The other military, army, and"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Marine Corps units that you work with."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "You got to listen to what they're saying"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "about their AO because that's going to"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "have an impact as well."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> Makes sense. Makes sense. No matter"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "where you're watching the Shawn Ryan"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Show from, if you get anything out of"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "this at all, anything, please like,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "comment, and subscribe. And most"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "extra generous, head to Apple Podcast"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "and Spotify and leave us a review."}]

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Please God,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "whatever or whoever you are, don't bend"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "down here and look at me cuz it'll ruin"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "my life. So, um, when I was, uh, 16"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "years old, I was big into snowboarding."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "And I had these two buddies of mine who"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "both were named Nick. Uh, and one of"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "them, his nickname was Wolf, like the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "animal Wolf. And so, for the sake of the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "story, there's Nick and there's Wolf."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "And the three of us, we snowboarded"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "together all the time. We used We, so I"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "grew up just south of Boston,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Massachusetts, and I lived in a town"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "called Quinsey. And it's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Massachusetts is not known for its"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "rugged mountain peaks. Uh, and so"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "there's really nowhere to go"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "snowboarding. Uh but uh there was this"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "place called Blue Hills. 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The roads get all nasty and"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "stuff, but it was like cool to be living"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "on the side of the mountain. But anyhow,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "um we had a trip to to go up there"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "planned and uh sort of out of left"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "field, Nick's father passed away. It was"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "I honestly I think it was a heart"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "attack, but it was very abrupt. And when"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "we would go to this trip, this annual"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "trip up to this cabin, it was always me,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "uh, Wolf, Nick, and then Nick's mom and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "dad. And they were like this perfect"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "couple, you know? They loved each other"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "so much. They were so much fun to be"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "around. Just like the most motherly,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "fatherly group. And they loved that"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "cabin. Especially the dad. the dad, I"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "don't think he built it, but he was like"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "always, you know, he was very handy"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "fixing it up. You know, he's a man's"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "man, rugged guy. Um, and so when when I"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "found out that Nick's dad had died, you"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "know, I really didn't care about the ski"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "trip, snowboard trip. I'm like, of"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "course we're not doing that. You know,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "how could we? 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I I"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "remember uh I talked to Wolf separately,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "so not the guy whose dad died, and I"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "said, \"Hey, you know, just between you"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "and I, obviously we're not going to go,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "you know, right?\" And he's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "no way.\" But um I ended up getting a"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "call from from Nick and Nick is he was"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "always like a very stoic guy, sort of"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "like a tough, quiet, reserved kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "guy. And he's like, \"Hey, uh like"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "showing almost no emotion or anything."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "He's like, \"Hey, you know, we're just"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "we're just going to go we're going to go"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "on the trip anyways.\" And um I remember"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "thinking that I actually really didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "want to cuz like I'm thinking about how"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "uncomfortable that's going to be. The"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "absence of his father is going to be so"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "obvious. Um but I I also was thinking"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "that, you know, for all I know, this is"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "their way of like, you know, sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "honoring his late father. He loved the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "cabin. And maybe it's one of those"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "things where it's like he would want us"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to go, you know, still do the trip. And"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "so I called Wolf separately and he sort"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "of agreed that he's like, I feel like"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "it's our responsibility to go and be"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "supportive and just let this be whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "it is. You know, it's not meant to be a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "fun vacation. It's meant to be be there"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "for the family and just go."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "And so me and Wolf agree to go with"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Nick. And the deal is it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the three of us, the three friends, uh"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Nick's mom like usual, and then she had"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "two much older sons. They were in their"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "30s at the time, were 16. I hadn't met"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "them before. Um, I knew they existed,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "but you know, the rumor was that they"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "would be joining us at the cabin"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "presumably the night we got there. We"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "were going to be there for three nights."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "They were going to join us. And so,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "without even telling Wolf or I, we sort"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "of understood that they're going there"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "to sort of fill the obvious gap left"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "behind by Nick's dad's absence. And so,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "that's sort of what we what we think"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "we're walking into. And so, we uh the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "day comes couple it's just a couple of"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "days later. Uh, you know, Nick's Nick's"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "mom comes and picks me up and it's me,"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Wolf, and Nick in the back seat. It's a"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "big SUV. And, you know, uh, Nick's mom"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "is driving and the the front passenger"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "seat is, you know, conspicuously empty."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "That's where the dad would sit. And so,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "you know, up to New Hampshire we go."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "And, you know, at this point, I am I've"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "embraced the situation and I'm just"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "looking to be a good friend. So was"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Wolf. We just go up there. It is what it"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "is. So, we go up to the to the cabin and"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "uh a couple more points about the cabin"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "that are sort of important for the story"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "is the cabin itself is situated on a"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "mountain. It's built on a mountain. If"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "you think about how you'd build a level"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "house on a slope. You got to sort of put"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "half the house, if you will, out on"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "stilts to keep it up supported and then"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the other half is sort of effectively"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "built into the mountain, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "build something on a slope. I guess I"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "hope that makes sense. Uh and so that's"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "how this one's built. Basically, half"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "the house was sort of jutting off the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "mountain with big stilts and a big"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "wraparound porch that's that went around"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the outside and then sort of like a"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "section of the house was sort of"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "burrowed into the mountain."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> Um, and our and when you drive up this"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "mountain, you'd turn onto a little"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "access road and you'd be approaching the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "house sort of looking at it from a"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "profile view. You'd see on the left side"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "is the stilted side and the right side"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "is the side buried in the mountain. The"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "door is right in front of you as you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "pull up to it. uh the door to get into"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "the cabin. You actually have to step"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "onto the wraparound porch and take a few"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "steps and then there's a door that leads"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "directly into the side of of the cabin."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "And once you step inside um you're"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "standing quite literally between the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "kitchen on your right where there's"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "lenolium under your right foot and on"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "your left is this shag carpet where the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "living the dining room is. So you you"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "step in and you're straddling these two"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "rooms. Um, there's also sleigh bells"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "that they kept on the door. So, anytime"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "you opened it, you could always hear it"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "opening. And so, you walk into the cabin"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "and there's just like one big open room."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "It's an open floor plan. It's a very"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "small cabin. So, kitchen over here,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "dining room here with a table in it. And"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "if you just kept walking straight"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "towards the back of this cabin, again,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "not very big. You'd enter the living"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "room. There's no wall demarcating it."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "You just sort of get to a couch with a"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "TV on the back of the the cabin. And if"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "you turned around in that back of the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "cabin and looked up, you'd see a lofted"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "second floor. And basically at the back"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "side of the cabin, there's stairs that"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "go up to the to the second floor. So"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "it's just a lofted second floor. That's"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "where the mom and dad, that's where they"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "would sleep. And then where we would"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "sleep is when you first walk in and you"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "got the kitchen on your right, you got"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the dining room on your left. If you"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "walk like halfway through the cabin and"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "you stopped and you turned right, you're"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "now looking into the mountain that"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "direction. There's a single hallway that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "goes straight down and then makes a tiny"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "little left and there's one bedroom that"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "is where we would sleep. And when you go"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "into that bedroom, you you'd walk in,"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "it's a cornerfed room, if you will, uh,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "for our our military days."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "And immediately on your right is a bunk"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "bed. I would sleep on the lower bunk."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Wolf would sleep on the top bunk. And"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "then with basically all the remaining"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "space in the room, it's not a very big"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "room, was like a queen-siz bed where"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Nick would sleep. And there was just"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "enough space where you could walk"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "between the queensiz and the bunk bed, a"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "little little row there. So all that"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "will make sense once we get into the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "story or the what really happens. So"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "anyways, we get up to the mountain, we"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "get to the cabin, we put our stuff down,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "and right away, you know, even though"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "it's midday, we head out to Adatash. I"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "think that's the name of the mountain we"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "went to. And we snowboard all day and"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "it's it's it's great. Um, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "ex even though it's a sad trip, it was"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "wonderful to be out on the mountain. And"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "then we uh we come back and uh at this"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "point we we were told that the brother"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "one of one of the two older brothers was"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "likely going to be there late at night."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Uh he was coming in from some trip he"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "had. And so basically he was going to"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "get there but it was going to be late at"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "night likely after we fell asleep. So"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "there's no reason to stay up for him."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "And so we we were at the cabin and the"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "three of us are like, \"Man, let's just"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "like go to bed right now. It's like 7 or"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "8:00. Let's just go to bed and we can"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "get up super early and like hit the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "mountain and snowboard all day tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "It's going to be awesome. And so we go"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "in our bedroom and the other two fall"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "asleep like immediately. But I just like"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "can't sleep. There's no reason for it."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Just couldn't sleep. Maybe I was"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "excited. Um and I had like a a"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "PlayStation one in there and I was"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "playing like SSX Tricky, that little"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "snowboarding game, just crushing video"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "games. I just couldn't sleep. But"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "finally I'm like, \"All right, I got to I"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "got to I got to go to bed.\" So, I turn"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "it off and I get into the bunk and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "it it's truly pitch black inside this"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "room where the the room has it's been"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "built into the mountain, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "that's it. It's it's it's not some"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "secret room. It's just the way the the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "cabin is constructed. There's no"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "windows, you know, it's it's it's it's"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "bunkered in the mountain. And so,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "there's no light coming in and it's the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "middle of the night. And the only light"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "in the room was just a a digital clock"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that had a little red dial to a little"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "red digital face. That was the only"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "light in the room. Um, but it's like"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "truly like a pitch black room."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> You had a very interesting client I"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "think in 2017, Jeffrey Epstein."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> I don't have family here. I think uh"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "this time in politics made me feel that"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "I can't fully trust people."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> What is the story on the internet? What"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "made him unusual?"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> Just everything."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "and so I'm laying there and uh I still"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "can't sleep and my feet are closest to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "the door and Wolf is the same"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "orientation above me and Nick is the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "same orientation next to me and uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "laying there and at a certain point I"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "hear footsteps out on the wraparound"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "porch and I didn't hear a car approach."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Um I also wasn't like actively listening"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "for sounds outside. I was trying to fall"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "asleep, but I just I remember hearing"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "these footsteps on the wraparound porch."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "And um you know, I I think that I I"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "mentioned it before in another story. I"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "It's amazing what your brain will do."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "I've seen this in this particular story"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "and I've also seen it, you know, in the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "military where"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "you're met with like overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "evidence that something bad is"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "happening, but your brain is like,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "\"Nope, everything is fine.\""}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "And like it's the middle of the night on"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "a mountain and I'm hearing footsteps in"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "the wraparound porch. And so my brain"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "immediately jumps to, \"Oh, it's next"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "brother. Has to be next. It's like 2:30"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "in the morning right now. We knew he was"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "going to be here. I've never met him.\""}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "And and it's funny, my my go-to thought"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "was uh I'm going to pretend to be asleep"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "because I'm not I don't want to have a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "social interaction with this dude right"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "now. Never met him before. It's like"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "3:00 in the morning. Was going to walk"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "in and be like, \"Yo, get up. Let's let's"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "chat. Let's meet.\" You know, like he's"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "not going to do that. But that's all I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "thinking. I'm like, \"All right, just do"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "your best like asleep impression.\" And"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "so I'm I'm sitting there and I hear"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "these these footsteps and they're"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "they're out on the porch which is"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "elevated off the ground. It's pretty"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "echoey and it's like silent in the house"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "be beyond that. And so the footsteps,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "they stop outside the door, the door"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "that leads into the the kitchen and the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "living room. And I hear the door open"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "and I can hear the sound of the sleigh"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "bells on the door ringing. So, makes"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "sense. The door's opening. He's here."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "And the the first thing that I noticed"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "that seemed off was I didn't hear the"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "door shut again. I just heard it open."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "And the footsteps when they're out on"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "the wraparound porch that is an elevated"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "wooden platform makes sense that they"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "would like echo in a sense or you would"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "hear them. The cabin is not echoey."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "There's shag carpet and it's like cement"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "slab. It's you don't hear people's"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "footsteps. But when the footsteps came"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "into the cabin, I continued to hear them"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "like they were echoing almost like they"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "were out on the wraparound porch. And so"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "footsteps wrap around porch, the door"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "opens, the sleigh bells, the footsteps"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "come into the cabin, and they're like"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "echoing through. Echo is not even the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "right word. They're loud. Like I can"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "hear like a thump with each step."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "And I'm telling myself, it has to be one"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "of Nick's brothers. That's all that's"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "all it can be. There's no other"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "explanation here because any alternative"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "is awful. There's no other good"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "alternative. And so the footsteps are"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "moving and I and I had this weird"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "thought that I can only describe this"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "way. It was almost like I could see in"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "my mind's eye where they were in the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "house. Whoever, whatever this was, it"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "was like I was intimately aware,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "probably because I was having like a"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "fight orflight reaction and my my brain"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "was going crazy. It was like with every"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "step it was like I could see the feet"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "like moving exactly where they were in"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the cabin and I could tell as the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "footsteps, you know, hard stomped"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "through the cabin. They stopped and I"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "knew they were stopping right at the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "point where you would turn and you would"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "if you wanted to, you'd walk down the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "hallway that led to us. There's no other"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "once you'd come down this hallway. We're"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "the only room that's left, right? And so"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "I'm picturing in my mind like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "this has got to be Nick's brother, but"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "like what's going on here? Why do I have"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "this weird thought about this? The"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "footsteps stop at that point and they"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "turn and they begin walking down the"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "hallway towards our room. Our our doors"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "shut. It's pitch dark beyond the the"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "little red light in the room. And I at"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "this point I'm starting to wonder like,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "okay, I don't know if this could be next"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "brother. This just this feels awkward."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "It feels wrong. The door's not shut."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Like what's up with these footsteps"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "being this loud? Is this an intruder? Is"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "it is it a is it a predator? I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "know. Is it an animal that's come into"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "the house? Like all these thoughts are"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "going through my head. They're all bad."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "And I remember having this almost"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "paralyzing fear come over me as the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "footsteps began coming down the hall"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "because all I'm thinking is in a moment"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "here. Invariably, it seems like the door"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "is going to open and I'm going to have"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "to have some sort of interaction with"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "whoever whatever this is. Wolf and Nick"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "are dead asleep and I and I'm so scared"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "with fear. I I can't make a sound. I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "so scared. I'm so scared. And so I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "laying there and the footsteps come down"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "the hallway and then they stop right"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "outside the door. So it comes down the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "hallway and it turns and it's facing the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "doorway that's shut. And I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "towards the foot of my bed, the bunk bed"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "now, and there's a space between the top"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "bunk and and where I'm laying. And so I"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "have a little bit of a view on this door"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "that's on the wall here. I can see the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "door. And the door opens inwardly. And"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "it's so dark, but like my mind I'm like"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "I know where the door is. I know like"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "even though I can't see it, I know if"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "anybody comes in, they're going to be"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "right there. And so I'm laying here"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "staring down through the slat in my bunk"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "bed, the door opens and this dark tall"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "figure walks into the room and each step"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "is like this thunderous boom as it's"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "walking into the room. Like it's echoing"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "through the whole house. It feels like"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "like I'm amazed no one else has woken up"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to it. And I see it walk past, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "going to explain this. I see it walk"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "past the slats in the bed or that space"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "in the bed and the room is like pitch"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "black. There's really no light coming"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "in. Even when the door opened up,"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "there's a tiny bit of light from the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "digital clock, but there's virtually no"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "light. And I could practically perfectly"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "make out a dark silhouette within a dark"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "room. It was like I could see it clear"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "as day as if there was a light being"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "shown on it. This tall dark figure that"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "walks past the bed. And I'm laying here"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "and my view is partially obscured by the"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "top bunk over here. Like I can see Nick"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "on the bed there. I can basically see"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "the whole room. But if you're standing"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "real close to the bed and you were to"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "walk down the row and you were taller"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "than the top bunk, let's say, I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "actually see you unless I moved my head"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "and looked up at you. Right? So I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "laying here and this thing walks into"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "the room. It turns at the foot of the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "bed and it begins marching down the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "space between where I'm laying and where"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Nick is laying. And it's so tall that"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "from my perspective I can only like see"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "its thighs if you will. Like its hips"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "would be above the top bunk. Like it"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "doesn't feel physically possible that"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "it's so tall. And it marches right next"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "to me and it stops. And I'm laying there"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "sweating bullets. I've I honestly don't"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "think I've been more scared in my life."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "I don't think I've ever been more"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "scared. And I'm all I remember thinking"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "I said it in the YouTube video that I"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "told and it became like a meme within my"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "community of fans. I was like it very"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "earnestly. I was like all I could think"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "was please God whatever or whoever you"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "are don't bend down here and look at me"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "cuz it'll ruin my life to like have to"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "interact with you."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "But I'm laying there all I'm thinking is"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "oh my god like don't interact with me."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Don't like I know this is not your"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Nick's brother. I don't know who or what"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "this is. But it like turned away from me"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "almost like a military facing movement"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "because it had marched down the way and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "it turned away from me. Now it's looking"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "out over Nick's bed. I'm frozen like"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "paralyzed. I was helpless. It could have"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "destroyed me. I couldn't do anything."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "And it like bowed forward into Nick. It"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "like bent forward into Nick and then"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "disappeared into the ground. Just was"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "gone."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "And uh you know in a movie, let's say, I"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "think you might be like, \"Oh, now it's"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "safe.\" The ghost melted into the floor."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "We could we can run away now."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> Oh, good everybody. Right. But like in"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "real life, I'm like, \"Where did it go?"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Where is it? That's not how that's not"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "normal.\" You know, there's so many"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "questions like, \"What do I do now?\" And"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "so I'm laying in bed wondering if it's"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "going to like poke its head up and look"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "at me. And again, it's like this"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "horrible horrible thing. And so I just"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "laid there in bed waiting for whatever"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "or whoever this was to reemerge. And I"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "didn't move. And I'm like frozen solid,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "just so scared. And at a certain point"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "when nothing happened in the room, I"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "must have fallen asleep. That's the only"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "explanation cuz it's like this gray area"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "post seeing it to when I wake up. But I"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "basically come to or wake up very"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "shortly after this. I only could have"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "slept for like an hour tops. And I"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "realized that Nick and Wolf are both up"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "out of the bed. It's just me. There's a"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "little bit of light in there and I can"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "hear out in the kitchen the sound of"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "Nick's mom like doing her morning"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "routine and I'm so relieved like there's"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "the room is safe again. I'm up out of"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "the bed and I go running out. I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "Nick and Wolf, they're still in the bed."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "They're still in their bedroom, but I"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "can hear Nick's mom. That's actually"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "important. So, I wake up. I hear Nick's"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "mom. Nick and Wolf are still in bed. I"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "know it's it's safe now. I pop out of"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "bed and I run into the kitchen or I go"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "into the kitchen and I'm about to like"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "tell her. I had all these questions, you"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "know, I wanted to say to her. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "I'm 16. I'm a kid, you know. I need some"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "reassurance from an adult, but I I"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "instantly was like, \"Wait a minute. She"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "has just lost her husband like a couple"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "days ago and I am gonna come dangerously"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "close to to like potentially having a"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "sort of offensive conversation if I"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "start being like, \"Oh, I think I saw a"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "ghost last night in my room. Who do you"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "think it is?\" You know what I mean? So,"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "I just was like, \"How do I approach"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "this?\""}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> How old are you?"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> I was 16."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": ">> But I was like, \"Oh, I have the perfect"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "thing to ask.\" No matter where you're"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "watching the Shawn Ryan Show from, if"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "you get anything out of this at all,"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "anything, please like, comment, and"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "subscribe. And most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "behind the mission. So, I I know we have"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "about a 3-hour window here before things"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "start going downhill. So, so like I I"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "said off camera, I want to I want to go"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "as fast as possible, but and that's the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "reason is is is so I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "rattle off a few things here. Naval"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Academy grad, bachelor's in physics,"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "five years leading Marines, then went to"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "CIA. Full spectrum of clandestine ops"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Eastern Europe two tours include violent"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "revolution"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "central Asia DCOS then COOS that's"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "deputy chief of station and then chief"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "of station"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "HQS branch chief then COOS Southeast"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Asia fluent in Russian and Czech core"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "collector certified twice selected as"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "chief of station"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "career arc of an elite DO officer I and"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you have an amazing career. And uh I"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "just want to make sure like I said,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "we're going to read a couple things off"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "before before uh the interview starts."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "But uh I just want people to understand"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "the full scope. And um so let's move if"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "you don't have anything to add there,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "let's move right into the day of the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "attack in Southeast Asia, the fall of"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "2021."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> Sure. No, I was just very blessed to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "have opportunities. Probably shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "have been afforded someone from, you"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "know, the Midwest, small town, more pigs"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "and people, you know, just very blessed"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "to have those opportunities. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "going to the new location was just"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "another opportunity. Just wonderful."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "We're very excited. One of those places"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "that kind of has it all. Geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "pivot point. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "great team, great mission."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Um, you know, I was super excited to be"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "with my wife again. We we kind of been"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "living apart for four years because as"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "mission and and things dictated."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "So all around was was very excited to to"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "head out there. And you know, I remember"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "getting off the plane there and that"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "first breath you ever take, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "when you get off of off the plane in"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "that new location, you just you just"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "always remember it and you always look"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "forward to it. You know, you're getting"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ready and you're like, \"Oh, wait, wait"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "for that first breath. What's it going"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "to be like? What's it going to smell"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "like? What's this going to taste like?"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "You know, what is this going to be?\" Uh,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "and I was I remember being worried. I"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "was like, \"Oh man, did my headquarters"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "tour ruin me?\" You know, am I am I going"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "to become one of them now? Cuz this was"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "the first time that I had been back out"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "in the field after the headquarters"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "tour."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "And uh that first breath went, it just"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "filled filled me with just life again."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "It's, oh man, this is this is what it's"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "like to be out again. This is great. Um"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "it didn't corrupt me. I'm I'm, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "I'm back. This is awesome. Uh so during"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "that time uh was you know full"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "full-blown kind of the COVID restriction"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "time. There was only one or two flights"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "in country a month."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "so we had to go into quarantine which"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "was which was awesome. those two weeks"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "of, you know, just sitting out there and"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "hydrating and and doing, you know, kind"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "of the prison workouts and just reading."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Uh, so it was it was great about a week,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "I guess, you know, aside for the two"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "days or two two times a day testing and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "then, you know, doing the nasal swab"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "five times during that that period. And"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "that was great. About a week into that,"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "a week and a half into that, uh, I was"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "told that my residence wasn't going to"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "be finished. Mine was the only residence"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "that wasn't going to be finished. It"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "wasn't ready for me to move in, uh, out"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "of the group of folks that were coming"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "in, which I thought, great. I'm here"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "alone. Uh, other people have families."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "If anybody's house isn't going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "done, I'm glad it's mine. And they said,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "well, we got to move you into this new"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "location for maybe about a month. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "it's kind of a really nice executive"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "suites hotel type of thing."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "So finish up quarantine."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Um went to that hotel, you know, walk"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "in, nurse follows you in and um you"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "know, they hand me key card for the room"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "and they say, \"Oh, here's your key card."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "It's good for, you know, one use only"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and then you're locked in.\" I said, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "no, I'm done with quarantine. The new"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "you know, guidance is that I can move"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "about now, go to work.\" Uh, I it's not I"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "finished that. Here's the letter. As I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "explaining these things, someone comes"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "in from, you know, off camera, a"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "different office comes up and says, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "so sorry. Here's your here's your key"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "card. Uh, you're right.\" Multiple"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "multiple times, you know, to come in and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "out. And I said, \"Oh, okay.\" They're"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "obviously watching. They're waiting for"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "me off camera. This might be the first"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "little you're welcome. Welcome here. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "professional courtesy to see how I kind"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "of handle first things. Um, I actually"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "thought I was touching. I was, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "that's nice. They they care. They care"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "enough to to hassle me a little bit."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "That's nice.\" So, you know, went up to"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "the room, kind of got settled and was"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "ready to go to the office the next day"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "and went to the office the next day,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "finished that up, got home or got to the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "the, you know, the lodging."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Um, remember just uh watching some golf."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> How would they have known it's you? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "I mean they they know it's it's the they"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": ">> This is a local hotel."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> Local. Yeah, locals. Locals. I mean the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "locals own everything. They know. It'd"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "be kind of like our FBI."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> I mean, I'm just assuming that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> maybe like our FBI."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> You would Are you traveling under true"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "name?"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Oh, yes. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> you are traveling under true name."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> Yep. They know I'm coming. Um, it's all"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "been ahead. You have to get visas ahead"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "of time. So, they know I'm I'm coming."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "They know who I am. Um I'm I'm sure they"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "know my past as well."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> Were you traveling under true name in"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the past?"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> Uh yeah, all the other locations as"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "well. Yes. And in every location that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "you had had noted. Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "so yeah, they knew I was"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> retrospect. Do you think that was a good"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "idea?"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Oh, I mean there's no real other option."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "That's kind of how how we had to do it."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Uh in retrospect, obviously there are"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "things and there were things that I"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "would recommend we do do differently"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "obviously."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Uh so anyways, you know, it's just it's"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "just kind of how things work in that in"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "that world, in that realm and and kind"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "of the things that all of the things"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "that you had mentioned before."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "so I remember that night I was just"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "watching golf and having an orange Fanta"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "and I don't even like golf, but was just"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "kind of watching it and uh admiring it"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "how skilled they were. Went to bed, no"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "problems. At"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "0455"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "that morning,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "I woke to a a crushing sensation like if"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "you were on the, you know, on the bottom"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "of of a pile up, like on a dog pile of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "people on top of you. And I woke up and"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I just wanted to to scream, \"Get off me"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "so I can breathe.\""}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Uh, and at that moment I heard"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "and I I heard's not the right word for"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "it. It was like a sensational sound that"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "shot through the my my"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "head I would say behind my ear bias bias"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "back that seemed to just shoot through"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "and went inside. It's not it was not an"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "audible sound. It was a different sound."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "it sounded like a mechanical slide"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "whistle. If you, you know, you have the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "ringing in in your ears that kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "ring sometimes. Drop that down several"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "octaves. And it increased in both pitch"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and intensity. And"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> higher tone or lower tone."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> It started low and went high. I'll I'll"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "try and and and mimic it and I'll I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "sure I won't do it justice, but it was"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "like a"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "about like that."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "And then it ended in a soft pop like you"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "know a high explosive kind of has that"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "low thud that feeling that over pressure"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "wave that you get. That was all there"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "but the pop was higher and and it felt"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "like it was in the center of my head."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "And that over pressure wave the same"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "type of wave that you feel being next to"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "an H shot through my body from like head"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "to toes. And I felt every single muscle"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "in my body lock up. And I felt like I"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "was thrown to my left. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "my arms were straight out. It sure felt"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "like they were. And all of the air in my"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "lungs was pushed out kind of with that"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "muscle tension. And my eyes were open."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> It's like being electrocuted."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> It was I mean obviously it's like"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "nothing I've ever felt in my life before"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "or after. And I my eyes were open and I"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "and I and I thought, is this one of"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "those sleep paralysis demon? I've never"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "had one of and and that long every"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "single muscle then relaxed and I felt"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "like I was falling through the the bed"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "and floor. Not falling off the bed, but"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "like through it like I was in freef"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "fall. And then my phone buzzed. What I"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "think was my phone. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Something buzzed. I think it was my"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "phone. I thought it was my phone. Picked"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "it up. That's when I saw uh 0455."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Hi, I'm Sarah Adams, the host of"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Vigilance Elites, The Watch Floor, where"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "we highlight what matters. It became a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "permissive state, explain to you why it"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "matters, and then aim to leave you"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "feeling better informed than you were"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "before you hit play. Terrace, hostile"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "intelligence agencies,"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "organized crime. 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I'm guessing off of the time"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "cuz I remember the sun coming up. Kind"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "of rocking in the chair and and just"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "kind of arms in, rocking in the chair,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "very confused, very anxious."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Um, lost all perception of of time,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "space, what was going on."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "And when the sun came up, I I remember"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "thinking, \"Ah, I need to call my wife.\""}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "You know, she's in a different time"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "zone. So, I don't know why I had to wait"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "for the sun to come up. 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She can tell me I'm crazy"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and I can go back to bed.\""}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "I don't remember much of the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "conversation."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "but you know, my wife told me later on"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "kind of what what that entailed, but it"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "ended with,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "\"You better go see the doctor or or"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "we're going to have have problems.\""}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Something that she's never, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "said in our, you know, prior 21 years of"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "marriage at that point."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Um, so I texted my colleague who was at"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "an emergency meeting that was called the"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "night before,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "uh, and said, \"We got to go and, you"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "know, go to the office.\" and um and see"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "see the doc there."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "So, uh went to the office,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "saw the doc."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Uh he did some of the baseline screening"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "that was for AHIS."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Um it was kind of a neck down version of"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "what I have had done done previously"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "voluntarily wise uh for screening"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "purposes."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "and was was going through it since I had"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "recently done it. Was I kind of knew"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "what was going on, but it wasn't until"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "the the balance portion"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "that I I thought something might be"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "wrong."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "I was"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "falling over, bending over, especially"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "when I closed my eyes like a wet noodle,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "and I didn't even realize it. I had no"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "idea which way was was up. I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "tell I was falling. I laughed because it"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "was it was almost comical."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "But it wasn't until that point that I I"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "thought, well, something something might"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "actually be here."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> Your equilibrium is that off."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> So, I was even writing to the office. Uh"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "I was I don't think I realized how bad I"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "was. I could not comprehend what was"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "going on. One of the things I noticed"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "right away was I couldn't read a license"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "plate 15 meters away. It was blurred. It"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "was like double."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "the world seemed to be moving at a rapid"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "pace and I couldn't keep up. I could not"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "process things. Um, but I, you know, up"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "until kind of doing the balance part, I"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "was just"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> Are you saying your thinking appeared to"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "be in slow motion?"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> It did, but I couldn't even process it."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Like the peripheral vision, I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "even process it. It just wouldn't even"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "sink in what was going on in the world"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "around. I just couldn't even process it."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "So, we get through that. They draw"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "blood, go through the process there. Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": ">> you're one of the only, you are the only"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "person that has had your blood drawn"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "right after the the incident. Correct."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> I I can't speak for everybody else. I"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "think what's interesting with with mine"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "and it goes to some of the empirical"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "data associated with mine is that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the blood that we that we had drawn was"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "about 8 and 1/2 hours uh post incident."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Um and apparently there's biomarkers"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "that indicate"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "uh brain injury. Uh two specific ones."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "One I believe is more generic to nerve"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "damage. You get hit with a baseball bat,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "you're going to have that biomarker in"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "your blood. The other one is very"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "specific to a TBI or traumatic brain"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "injury or something to the brain because"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "it's only found in your cerebral spinal"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "fluid and it only passes past that"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "bloodb brain barrier when there's an"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "assault to the brain. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "mine were were significantly elevated"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "three times the one that's only found in"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "the brain was three times the the the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "level of of previous blood and and blood"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "taken post medevac that we'll get to. So"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "mine shows a a clear spike"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "after uh that injury. And according to"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "some of the doctors and those uh that"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "I've talked with since those biomarkers"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "tend to reach their peak 24 hours post"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "injury and are are removed from your"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "body 48 hours after the injury. So very"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "they're not in your system for very"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "long. Um and the fact we took it 8 and"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "1/2 hours after does means I wasn't even"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "close to to to peaking. Those levels"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "were not even close to to spiking. So we"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "don't really know where those are. are"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "those are at. So after we finish up uh"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "with the the doctor there, I talked to"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "the local um kind of US security folks"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "just to let you know kind of folks know"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "don't know what this is. Maybe it was a"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "bad spring roll or or something like"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "that. Um but on the off chance that it"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "wasn't and I was under an attack and"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "like I said, we knew about these things."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "We were briefed on on on on this stuff."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "but I didn't know details. I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "what symptoms were. I didn't know what"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "what the attack like"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": ">> an incountry brief or a headquarters"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "brief that's that encompasses everybody."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Yeah. All before. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": ">> So, this isn't"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> this is Yeah. Back back home, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "was kind of these briefings, but"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": ">> but it wasn't it wasn't specific to your"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "new location, Southeast Asia. Mm-m. We"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "didn't know um or at least I didn't"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "know. I won't speak for everybody. I"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "didn't know what the symptoms were. I"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "didn't know how many people were"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "impacted. I didn't know um what it might"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "feel like or what the exposure was. Um"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "you know, I think I remember being told"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "it was kind of like you're going down"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "the highway at 55 and your windows are"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "down a little bit and you kind of get"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "get that reverberation."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "That's the only thing I I had heard. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "this fit that didn't fit that at all,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "but something definitely didn't seem"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": ">> I mean, isn't that somewhat of an"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "admission in itself that they're"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "briefing people on a potential"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "microwave weapon,"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "but keeping it vague?"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": ">> Yeah, I think, you know, looking back"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "that could be a good part of it. I think"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "when we look back at some of the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "timelines,"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "um, it'll be very more it'll be"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "interesting kind of when we jump ahead"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "and look at some of the timelines"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "leading up to this that I wasn't aware"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "of because just focused on the mission"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "and focused on"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> on on doing what we're supposed to do."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Um, so if it was something like that, I"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "I didn't want to put other Americans at"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "risk and because it was COVID wise, it"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "was really no other option. So I was"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "like, \"All right, I'll go back to the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "same place."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Let's, you know, kind of see what"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "happens.\" Um"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "1:38 that next morning, I woke up and"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "was itching my fingers and I had a kind"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "of sensation that kind of went from the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "wrists to the elbows almost like a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "chemical burn"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "uh that woke me up and the phone did the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "exact same thing at 1:38 that that"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "morning. So I was like, man, okay, no"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "such thing as a coincidence in our"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "business."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "something's something's going on."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Once again, went to the next room and I"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "had enough wherewithal at least to say,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "\"Let me try and listen and hear and see"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "if there's anything going on.\" Strange,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "right? So, I sat there, listened. About"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "30 minutes later, I heard kind of behind"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "me"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "what sounded like big metal hinges."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Hinges scraping, like opening. I I can't"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "even explain it. It's kind of what was I"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "pictured in my mind were these big kind"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "of metal hinges opening"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": ">> like this would have been squeak or a"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "squeal."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": ">> Almost like a scrape."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": ">> Scrape."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Like a like a a almost like a"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "hinge on a suitcase type of That's what"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "it seemed like."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:25", "text": ">> Okay. but big. It wasn't a small hinge."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "It was like a larger aperture opening or"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "closing. And that would have been behind"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "the bedroom."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "and then above me, I heard what sounded"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "like furniture moving. Somebody moving"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "furniture, you know, three feet"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "stopping. Three feet stopping. And this"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "is, you know, 2:00 in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "right? So, what are those sounds doing?"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "And you have to remember that the COVID"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "time, I think the the lodging, the hotel"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "was only at about 20 25% occupancy."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "Um, there weren't many people there cuz"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "the whole country was was on lockdown,"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "right? I didn't see anybody on any of"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "those floors before."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Uh, so at that point in time, I was"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "like, no such thing as coincidence. got"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "a hold of my colleague again, went into"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "the office and started the process to"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "figure out what was going on. Briefed"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "obviously the local security personnel"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "um and it was decided that it'd be best"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "to medevac me. Uh the doctor said that"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "he'd never seen anybody actually show"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "symptoms when doing the testing that he"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "saw with me. Uh he noted my eyes"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "actually were having a very difficult"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "hard a hard time tracking his finger"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "would would kind of shake"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "just horizontally. Vertically was okay,"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "but horizontally was was off for for"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "some reason. So he um"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "he recommended we do medevac. so"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "prepared to medevac out of there."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "The day of when we were about when I was"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "about ready to medevac, the local um"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "security"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "uh comes up and he said, \"You're never"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "going to believe this. You're not alone."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "There's another one."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": ">> There's another one.\""}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": ">> And I said, \"Oh, oh no.\" And he's like,"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "\"It was a week before you.\""}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Um we'd obviously come in on the same"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "flight, same scenario. He was starting"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "starting work. Another um US personnel,"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": ">> same hotel."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> We were at different hotels. So his was"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "at a different hotel than I actually had"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "quarantined in, but his was a week"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "prior."}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "What was very interesting is, and this"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "is kind of what the the local security"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "officer was was kind of"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "I was almost I I wouldn't say giddy, but"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "it's like your stories are exactly the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "same."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "And again, going back to why everybody"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "like where's the proof of Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "is involved and like I would say, you"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "know, I would rather be pleasantly"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "surprised than in, you know, sadly"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "disappointed,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> right? So my my my take is what you're"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "expecting is a guy that was surrounded"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "by black malers and and files to be some"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "lighthouse in a sea of [ __ ] like you're"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "expecting this is like an anomaly,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> And there's a lot of people putting"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "their whole reputations on this point"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "that there's no proof that he was"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "involved, you know, and I'm like, you're"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "that's a dangerous game to play."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Very dangerous"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> because you don't know this dude. You"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "don't you don't know him personally."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "He's playing an archetype for you, a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "hero. And you're investing all of your"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "career collateral betting on this dude"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "even though everyone around him was I"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "mean if you look at the last like five"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "or six presidents, you know, they all"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "have a file scandal with the exception"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "of one which is George Bush Jr. who"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "happened to kill two million Iraqis,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> But he's the only one I haven't heard"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "that's involved in any of this, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "You know, George Bush Senior's involved"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "with the Franklin scandal. You know, um"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Clinton's involved with the um Epstein"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "scandal. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Obama is involved with Pizzagate,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> you know, and then Trump's also involved"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "with the Epstein stuff,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> but you're expecting this guy to be"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "completely an anomaly in this."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> What do you make of"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Trump being the only person who was"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "subpoenaed by Brad Edwards in 2020 2008?"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "to come to call him up and be like, I'll"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "sit with you and talk for as long as you"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "want. All the other people would ignore"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "the the subpoena."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> Yeah, I've seen that. And that that is a"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "big reason why I kind of was like maybe"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "he wasn't involved, you know, trying to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "get out in front of it. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> 100%. I mean, if you look at that"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Lupkick guy, like that guy will lie"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "right to your face."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Howard Lutnick. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, it's like it's like crazy"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "how dark that guy is. One of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "psychopaths we ever seen. So it's"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "interesting to me if you want to get"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "ahead of it, you know, you kind of step"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "forward. That's definitely what kicks"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "this off, right? So Michael Wolf just"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "gave an interview sitting in his chair"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "and he basically confirms that the"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "fallout is over Margo."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> He's like a real estate Trump fall out"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "with him."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> Well, Epste is he backdoors Epstein on"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "this on this property."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> And that's where that's when war happens"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> and they've been going back and forth."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "So the question is why didn't the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Democrats release any of this stuff, you"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "know, while Joe Biden was in? And the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "answer is because"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> because they're implicated, too."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> They're implicated."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> There's no left and right aren't real,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> right? It's that's the biggest thing. If"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "you're fighting over right, left, you're"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "fighting over black and white, straight,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "gay. You've already lost."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> You're not supposed to We're not"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "supposed to be fighting left and right."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "We're supposed to be fighting up"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> 100%. And these people can't even"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "understand that. So, everyone's asking"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "like, \"Why isn't there any protest"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "fighting uh uh protesting the people who"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "eat children?\" I'm like, \"Well, because"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the people who eat children are the ones"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "funding the protest.\""}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "That's why none of this is organic,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> The [clears throat] only organic one I"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "saw was my friend Scotty the Kid created"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "a uh you know, a march against child sex"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "trafficking about 5 years ago."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Uh and like I was part of that. We only"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "expected a couple hundred people and"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "like thousands of people showed up. He's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "got another one coming March 7th. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "going to be a big one again. But"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> none of it's or none of it's organic."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> Our, you know, there's this whole thing"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "people really like they they really"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "defend their culture like uh cult"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "everyone's defending their culture."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "You're most of your culture is contrived"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "in think tanks pushed forward by"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "intelligence operations,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> right? I mean, people, you know, I know"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "you just had Kurt Mezer on and he was"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "like, you know, everyone's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "how you going to know it's real?\""}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> He has I haven't had him on yet. He's"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "coming."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> But he's been saying it. I've been"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "saying it for a while. You've never"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "known what was real ever."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Your entire culture, and I'm not talking"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "anyone race or anything, the entire"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "thing is astroturfed"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> and it's been manipulated by"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "intelligence agencies. The entire 60s"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "and 70s, all the bands were CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "projects. You know, I mean, Only Fans is"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "most likely CIA at a minimum. It's got"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "to be an intelligence."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> I wouldn't be surprised,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> right? And then you have these chicks"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "who make all this money, right? She's"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "like, \"Oh, I'm making 60 mill a year.\""}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Yeah. Because it's a it's a it's a"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "operation to convince girls they could"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "make this kind of money"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> and then they get into the industry and"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "their life goes to [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> It could be a foreign intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "operation."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> Well, I mean, the guy gives more money"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "to Apac than anybody else."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the guy who owns Only Fans. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Really?"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> Yeah. He's the number one donor."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] You know, going back to Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "stuff,"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Trump is he has to be the most pollare"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "president of my lifetime. No, no"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "president I've ever heard talk more"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "about polls than Donald Trump or is more"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "hyper aware of polls than Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "except for one poll"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "with his base which is the Epstein stuff"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "and the Israel stuff. He is Helen Keller"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "when it comes to that."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": ">> Yeah, 100%. Dude, when I"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> Why the [ __ ] is that? It's the only one"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "that he he's completely blind to."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> I just listen I think there's a part of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Trump that just wants to be loved. He's"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "always liked to be loved. He's always"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "liked to be popular. He's always liked"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "to be included."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> And you know, he wants to be a loved"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "president."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> And you know, people people are going to"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "lose it on me. But if I I look back at"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "all the presidents, I would probably"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "take Trump over everybody since like"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "maybe Jimmy Carter. Somebody came on my"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "podcast the other day said he was a"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "robot."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> Jimmy Carter died. Jimmy Carter died and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "they replace him with a robot."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "[clears throat] Now, you could say"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "that's crazy. And I'm not saying you're"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "not it's not crazy, but man, if you"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "watch those robots walking, they look"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "exactly like Joe Biden when he was walk"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "and like all the THERE WAS LIKE SEVEN"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "BIDENS, DUDE. There was black Biden. I"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "don't know if you saw him give him an"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "interview was like the mask goes to here"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "and then you see black skin under here."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "There's Nephilim Biden. There was like"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "when he was like 7 foot tall Biden."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "There was [ __ ] like smooth leg Biden"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "who looked like he had 20-year-old legs"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "on that bike. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> oh, I remember that one."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> I mean, dude, anything's on the table"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Look, just because we're we're calling"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "it like we see it with Donald Trump does"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "not necess"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "uh Camala Harris and Joe Biden would"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "would have been better candidates."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> They would be way worse. And listen, the"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "difference between Trump's cabinet,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> you can hold two thoughts at once."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> 100%. The difference between Trump's c"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "cabinet and Camala Harris's cabinet is"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "that Camala Harris's cabinet would be"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "fat feminist trans, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> And DEI and then Trump's C cabinet is"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "just closeted people, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> That's the difference. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> In the end, you always get gay."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> In the end, you always get gay. Why is"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> Cuz it's sexually"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> What is it? Did you see the Howard"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Lutnik or not, I'm sorry. Uh Tom"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Pritsker emailed him the dude who's the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "chairman of Hyatt Hotels."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> What' he say?"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> There's an email where and he goes way"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "back with Epstein. He uh he emailed him"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "on his birthday said, \"Hey Jeff, I'm in"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Afghanistan right now in the desert."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Petraeus just let me borrow a helicopter"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "and I'm going to play with some boys and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "some toys.\""}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> That's the whole thing, dude."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> This dude's worth How much is Thomas"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Pritzkar worth? Google that. Like this"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "dude is one of the biggest Democratic"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "political donors. His brother's I think"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the mayor of Chicago"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and and he's talking about"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> crazy."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> There's no there's no uh"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "misinterpretation when it talks to being"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "in the desert in Afghanistan and boys"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "like all the tier one operators I've"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "heard talk about what happens with boys"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "in Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> Dude, I've been to Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> Have you really?"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> It's called Man Loves Thursdays."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> 6.3 billion."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> I mean that family is crazy. Have you"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "seen the brother sister?"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> His their trans sister?"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> No, I have not."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Wasn't Wasn't she in the Obama cabinet?"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Wasn't she the secretary of commerce for"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Obama?"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> I I'm not sure about that, but she's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "like helping fund all this trans [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "which is crazy cuz Epstein is right in"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "the middle of the the trans stuff. Like"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "he's funding this ideology."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> Which is again Oh, Jennifer, is that"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "her?"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> Yeah. No, that Yeah, that's her. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "born James."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Born James Nicholas Pritsker."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah, I've been talking about Sun."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> This is my theory on the trans son."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> I mean, crazy, right? [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "I me"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Oh my god. I've been talking about this"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "on stage about how the trans issue comes"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "down to one thing and one thing only."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Passibility. Like if you look like a hot"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "chick, you can stay. If you look like a"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "haunted scarecrow, get the out of the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "woman's bathroom. Don't use a guy's"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "bathroom. 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[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Why Epstein? Why did they pick Epstein?"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Like what is that thing that gets him"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "into that investment firm and teaching"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "at Bill Bar's father's place? Because he"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "didn't have any any any credentials to"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "be there. Why did they pick him"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> in the very beginning? Why"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> there? So everything, dude, is about"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "data."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> Like I'm sure you've had people on"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "talking about they're part of the Gates"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "program and all that stuff. They've"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "always always been just studying data"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "and the whole thing is like who is the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "psychopath and who is compromised"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "sexually. If they find that person,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> they push them forward."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> That's the person you want for"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "intelligence. Someone"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> P. Diddy, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> P Diddy's working [clears throat] for"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "what's his face at uh at the record"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "label, catches an essay case."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> Is this the guy we were just talking"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "about yesterday? The death jam guy."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> That the the guy who who escaped"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> Tony something."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Yeah, he went to some other country"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "here. went to Indonesia or Mali or"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> he's working with this guy, catches an"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "SA case,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> gets fired supposedly, and then somehow"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "gets funds to start Bad Boy Records."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> But they got him. They like they we're"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "going to get you out of this, but you"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "got to basically play ball. Same thing"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "with Bill Clinton."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> It's either Princeton or Oxford. I"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "forget which of the uh schools he went"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "to, but he catches an SA case real early"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "and somehow gets out of it"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> and now he's on this journey. He's"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "completely compromised. Same thing with"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg catches a murder"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "case. They have him dead to right."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Somehow he gets out. Now he's Now he's"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "completely Now he's watching figure"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "skating twinks do back flips at the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Olympics, right? They like they just"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "they they push you forward. And the"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "minute he came out and said, \"Why is"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "there gay stuff in this kids movie?\" He"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "got pounded on. And Snoop did"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> Snoop Dogg. They made him write a song"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "for a gay cartoon. All that stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "again. He's watching figure skaters do"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "back flips. And by the way, be liking"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "figure skating makes you gay. I'm gay as"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "[ __ ] because that stuff's amazing. I"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "don't want to [ __ ] on figure skaters cuz"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "that [ __ ] is ice ninja stuff."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> Yeah, it's definitely incredible."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> It's super athletic,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> right? But, you know, they compromise"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "you and that's what it is."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> They they've they just study everybody."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "They find out who the psychopaths are,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "who are the ones who will stab their own"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "mother for power and success."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> And you think they saw that in Epstein"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "early? There has to be that."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Why is he there? Why did they put him in"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "this investment firm or or and why they"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "why' they hire him at the school?"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> Yeah. And why"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "why do you think like how did he get"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "connected with um Robert Maxwell?"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> So, so this is an interesting thing. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "in in the files, there is an email from"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the Rothschild to somebody else talking"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "about Hitler, right? And how their"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "family funded Hitler. And everyone's"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "been saying that forever"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> and then we get yelled at that were it's"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "anti-semitic or some [ __ ] like that. But"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "like Hitler was Hitler's father was the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "bastard"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "son of a woman who was the housekeeper"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "of a Rothschild."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "In a weird way, he's like a bizarro Jon"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Snow, right? Like remember Jon Snow's"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> the bastard son, but he's really the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "king and bloodline wise."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> That's Hitler. So everybody, like I have"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "good friends of mine that just have a"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "visceral reaction to that cuz they want"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "to believe Hitler's like the hero and"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "he's totally not. He's taking all this"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "banker money."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> right."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> So, [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "they always take care of their own. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "bloodline [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> They always take care of his own. And"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "she talks about how Hitler was in one of"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "their like"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> one of their like um like um houses for"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "like homeless youth and [ __ ] like that."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and he's selling paintings and stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "like that. And he that's how they move"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "him forward. They move him forward. He's"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "charismatic. And what they want you to"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "believe is that he he somehow rose up in"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "this completely locked down country."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "World War I, World War II is all about"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "all about the Greater Israel project."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "That's what it's about. Get Palestine"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "from the Turkish Empire. destroyed the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Turkish Empire and then World War II"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "[clears throat] is about sending all the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Jews to Palestine."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "he was completely and utterly a a scop"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "and people get really angry about that."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "You're like, well, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Germany's uh economy was going great."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Well, you have to do that. You have to"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "get the Germans behind this guy so when"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "they know war is coming, they'll go"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "sacrifice their life for Greater"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Germany,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> That's the game that's played."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> Do you understand what I'm saying? So,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "the reason I bring this up back around,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> is because in the email she says that"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "the Rothschilds and the Epstein funded"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Hitler."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> So, the question becomes, is this"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Epstein's Epstein?"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "And then you got this guy who rose to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "prominence and is like the the center of"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "the this global blackmailing financial"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "empire. You know, that's the question"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> does he have a blood does Epstein have"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "family that goes back that far?"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": ">> So you look at the you you look up who"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Epstein is. They do this with Larry"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Frink, too, from Black Rock. They're"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "like, he just came from modest, you"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> beginnings. You know, his parents were"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "like shoe cobblers and he just worked"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "his way up. No, dude. That's not how it"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "works, man. They do that with everybody."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "They sold us on that."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> That's what happened with the Pritzkars,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "too. I heard in Whitney Webb's book, she"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "writes about that. How the Pritskars"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "tried to rewrite their history and make"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "it look like they came out of Canada."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> Dude, Elon Musk, Bill Gates."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> What's his face from Amazon?"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> Bezos."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> Bezos. Yeah. Oh, his dad was in DARPA or"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> His dad helped fund DARPA. And you see"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "him, everyone's like, it worked. You"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "ever see that funny meme that says like"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "all these billionaires say they start in"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "a garage?"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> Yeah. And then the garage is just all"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Freemason satanic symbolism in the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "garage. So they gave it to him. D Amazon"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "was created in DARPA. They gave it to"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "the guy. They're like, \"Okay, you're the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "guy. You're the crazy enough to pull"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "this thing off.\" They give him the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "project. They start with books because"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "nobody gives a [ __ ] about books."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Nobody's following it. They work out the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "[clears throat] kinks with books. And"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "once that gets to the point where it's"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "like fully functional,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> now they put it out to everywhere. So"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "COVID comes and they shut down"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "everything. And this is how crazy it is."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "I remember being in Hollywood driving"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "down uh Lancers Street, which a couple"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "comedy clubs are on. The Haha Cafe. I"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "play there a lot. And there's a giant"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "sign that from Amazon Fresh says we're"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "still open. And you're like, dude, that"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "is basically a giant f you to all the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "other businesses that have to shut down."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> What was the business?"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> Amazon Fresh. Amazon Fresh,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> which is their their their uh their"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "their grocery store."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> Oh, okay. We don't have any of those"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "down here."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> Yeah, we have them in LA."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> So, people always go, \"Why does Amazon"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "not have to pay a lot of taxes?\" Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "why would a extension of the government"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "have to pay taxes to the government,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "[laughter] right?"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> It's the same thing with Facebook, same"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "thing with Google. They're all"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "extensions of the US government. They're"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "CIA money. The whole Facebook movie is a"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "giant lie. It's a propaganda piece."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "It wasn't like, \"Oh my god, this"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "autistic guy named Mark Mark Zuckerberg"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "just came up with this great idea.\" No,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "dude. That was a Pentagon program called"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Lifelog. You've heard this, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> You haven't heard this?"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> I've not heard this one."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> You haven't heard about Lifelog?"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> Okay. Lifelog is a Pentagon program"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> that wants to wants to basically collect"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "all your data for your whole life."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> All right. So, look this up. What day"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "did the government stop the lifelog"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "project?"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "It's like February either 9th or 7th or"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "13th, one of those dates."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> I thought, \"Wow,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> there you go.\""}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> Okay. What day?"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> US government specific."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> February 4th. Okay. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. DARPA shut"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "down the Lifelog project February 4th,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "2004. Now, do me a favor and look up"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "what day was Facebook registered as a"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "business?"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Oh my god. No way, bro."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> February 4th, 2004."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> THE EXACT SAME DAY. THEY DON'T EVEN HIDE"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "IT, DUDE."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "They didn't even wait a day."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> Oops."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Facebook is a government. a government."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> It was created by DARPA."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah. And then they handed it to they"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "handed to Mark Zuckerberg and then the"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the vos."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> What about the other Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> That's all [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> That's all just theater. That's just"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "theater to create a story. And that's"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "why they became the first Bitcoin"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "millionaires because they played ball."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> It's all theater, dude."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> So what is the purpose of Lifelog? is"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "this to collect all your data for your"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "whole entire life."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> If you enjoy watching our show on"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Spotify or YouTube and you want to be"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "more involved, I encourage you to please"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "come check out our Patreon community."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Not only does our Patreon community get"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "every episode you see on YouTube early,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "fully uncensored and adree, but we're"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "also doing Patreon exclusive episodes as"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "well as live Q&As's. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "you were talking to me about this crazy"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "stem cell stuff before we did the"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "podcast. Yeah. Can we talk about this on"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "the podcast?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> So, so explain to me these these crazy"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "uh new stem cells that you're getting"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "from Japan."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Yeah. So, um Okay. So, there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "different So, first off, I'll take I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "explain. Today in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "most people are using umbilical cord"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "derived stem cells. That's kind of like"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the gold standard today in the US. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "healthy birth, healthy mother,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "pre-planned C-section. You take the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "discarded afterbirth and from the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "discarded afterbirth you can extrapolate"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "out all of these amazing cellular"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "goodies."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> How how legit is that stuff?"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Oh, it's amazing"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> because I did that. I got the the uh the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "umbilical cord blood."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Is that is that"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Yeah, it can be legit. I don't I mean,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "but it's also Where did you get it from?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Was it cryopreserved? How did they take"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "care of it?"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> We paid for it, but I was super"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "skeptical about it. I was like, we don't"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "know. Some person in a car pulled up in"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "front of the hospital and we handed to"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "him in a [ __ ] lunch box. Oh. Oh, you"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "stored yours."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And just in case"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "because allegedly if if you do that, you"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "can take the umbilical cord blood and"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "they store it in a bank for you or"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "whatever and if you get some crazy like"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "cancer 10 years down the road, you can"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "use that and it'll automatically like"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "fix you."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Basically what I'm saying."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> I think it's I think it's very viable"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "for the future and I think there's no"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "disadvantage in cryo banking your"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "umbilical cord because there's"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "tremendous potential upside in the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "future. It's better to have it and not"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "use it than to need it and not have it."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "My skepticism came in to like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "I don't know who where the stuff is. I"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "don't know who's doing it. And I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "know like if when I need it, I'm going"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "to get the same stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, I I would be skeptical"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "about that, too. That's the only concern"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "is you never know who the actors are and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "who the players are. And that's where I"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "was going earlier with with what"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "happened here in America, like with stem"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "cells. And people talk about adverse"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "events and oh my god, well, what about"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "an adverse event? And even the FDA is"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "like, oh my god, what about adverse"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "events? Almost every adverse event in"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "the United States that has ever occurred"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "with stem cells occurred because of"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "improper utilization or application or"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "improper aseptic technique or bad"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "players. What do I mean by that? About"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "15 years ago, a bunch of stem cell"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "companies started springing up in the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "United States and they were selling stem"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "cells and you've got to cryopreserve"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "these stem cells. So they were telling"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "clinics to store them in liquid"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "nitrogen, but they had never validation"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "tested the packaging to see if it could"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "withstand liquid nitrogen. So liquid"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "nitrogen was literally seeping into the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "container"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> and polluting the cells. So when your"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "doctor was pulling out the cells and"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "then injecting those cells into a knee,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "a back, a shoulder, a spine,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> there were instances where they are"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "injecting liquid nitrogen into your"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "spine."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> And it killed people. It paralyzed"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> and it created this chaos where it"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "terrified regulators to where they just"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "said ban them. Ban them all. And this"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "was in the the Bush administration. And"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "then people were like they're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "abort babies and they're going to use"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "fetuses and they're going to turn them"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "into du. Yeah. Like Epstein died stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "And the truth of the matter is look"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "heterocchronic parabiosis is real. If"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "you take an old mouse and a young mouse"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "and you suture them together and they've"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "done this at Harvard, they've done this"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "in hundreds of studies. The young mouse"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "gets older and the old mouse gets"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "younger."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> Yeah. It's called heterocchronic"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "parabiosis. So the you're you're taking"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "all of your old tired, weary cells,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "weary blood, all of that, and you're"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "putting it in the young mouse and it's"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "going to age. When you take all that"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "young, vibrant, healthy cells, healthy"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "peptides, signaling cells, all of these"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "things, you're going to reverse your"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "aging,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> right? that it yeah what that one guy"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Brian Johnson a surgical technique that"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "connects the circulatory systems of"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "young and old mouse uh results show that"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "young blood can rejuvenate old tissue li"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "and so that's what I was just telling"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "you I just did at my clinic uh what's"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "called plasma feresis so we hook you up"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "to a giant uh dialysis machine we take"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "all of my blood systematically out of my"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "body batches at a time"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> and we extrapolate out all of my plasma"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "so I'm 45 years We're taking all my old,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "tired, weary plasma that's filled with"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "contaminants, microlastics, all the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "metals and all the things that are in"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "there. But we're also taking out all my"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "inflammatory markers, all my"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "inflammation, all of these bad things"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "that are being stored in my plasma. And"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "then we're replacing that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> uh with albumin, which is a basically"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "like a clean, fresh version of plasma"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "that's been distilled down. And then at"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "our practice, we're adding back in all"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "of the goodies of life. So all the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "umbilical cord derived product, we're"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "adding in MSC's, which are messenymal"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "stem cells. We're adding in exoomes,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "cytoines, extracellular vesicles. Think"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "of it as all the goodies of life. And so"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "before I get into Muse, I'll try and"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "make it quick. If we're going to build a"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "building, you got to have the bricks."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "You got to have the mortar. You got to"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "have the concrete. You got to have the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "blueprint. You've got to know how to"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "build the building. As we age, there's a"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "precipitous decline in all of the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "building blocks. So, we begin to lose"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "extracellular vesicles. We begin to lose"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "our peptides and in and the amount of"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "peptides that are available in our body."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "We begin to lose MSC's. There's"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "literally a fraction of the amount of"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "MSC's messenymal stem cells viable in"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "our body compared to where it is at"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "birth. At birth is the most you'll ever"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "see. And so, back to heterocchronic"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "parabiosis. When a mother's pregnant,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "she has some of the lowest risk of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "cancer. That's where a woman's glow"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "comes from. How they everyone says their"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "skin looks great. Because what people"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "don't realize is it's not only the baby,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the mom keeping the baby alive. the baby"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "is actually sending all of these"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "signaling cells and youthful uh cord"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "information through the circulatory"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "system back up to the mother. So when a"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "mom's pregnant,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> that's why her health that's why her she"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "has that womanly glow. Often times they"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "feel like their skin looks phenomenal."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "All of that is that process. So then you"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "take all that afterwards and we can"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "isolate out and utilize all of those"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "cellular goodies that nature or God or"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "whatever you want to say it is gave us"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "and from there we use those building"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "blocks to return your body to where it"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "would have been in a more youthful"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "state. Right? And so when we administer"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "an umbilical cord derived treatment like"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "an MSC or exoomes or whatever, it's in"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "an effort to give you the building block"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "that you're deficient in."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> So jump forward. That's what we we've"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "been doing in the US. That's what you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "know the standard of care. That's even"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "what they're doing in Panama and these"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "other places. Now the the slight"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "difference is outside the United States,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "they're allowed to manipulate and expand"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "upon the cells. without getting too into"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the weeds, they can make they can"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "multiply the amount of MSC's. So if you"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "begin to lose some of the MSC's through"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "cryofreezing and all these different"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "things, you have more of them. Okay, so"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "I flew to Japan in September to go meet"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "with a worldrenowned scientist um and"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "see the scientists who actually"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "discovered this subset phenotype of stem"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "cells called muse stem cells. Muse stem"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "cells. Think of it like the super"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "soldier of stem cells. So stem cells are"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "already I think less than 2% of the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "cells in the body. Like a very small"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "amount of the cells in the body are stem"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "cells. And this subset of stem cells is"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "less than 5% of the stem cell"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "population."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> Why are these cells important? Well, in"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "her research, what she uncovered is"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "those were the cells that appeared to be"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the most prolific and the most present"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "at the time of injury at the site. And"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "so then she started isolating out these"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "cells to try and investigate them and"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "better understand them. And then she one"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "night she had all these cells in a petri"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "dish and she got it invited out to a"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "dinner. She goes out to the dinner and"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "ends up drinking sake and realizes, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "my god, I forgot to take the petri dish"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and put it in the cryofreeze. When I go"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "to work tomorrow, all the cells are"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "going to be dead because stem cells can"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "only stay viable for minutes outside the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "body and they die.\" When she got to the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "lab the next morning, all the cells were"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "still alive. There were very few that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "had died. And she said, \"This can't be"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "right.\" And she realized this subset"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "phenotype of stem cell is ultra"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "resilient. It has the ability to survive"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "outside the body for an extended period"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "of time. It appears to be anywhere from"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "2 to 3 weeks."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> Whereas other cells will die instantly,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "minutes. You begin to lose the viability"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "of those cells. So think about it. If"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "I'm going to extrapolate out cells and"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "then I've got to put them in your body"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "as fast as I can, every minute I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "losing cells. I'm losing viability."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "That's part of the reason that they"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "expand those cultures. But the issue"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "with expanding cultures is you're making"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "copies of copies of copies of copies."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "And even scientists who are doing this,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "they have what's called the Goldilock"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "zone where they'll do two expansions."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "When you start going beyond that, you"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "start to degradate the cells and the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "cells begin to lose what makes them an"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "MSC, which means they're less valuable"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "to the body. They're not going to have"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "as much impact. Um, so these subset muse"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "stem cells appear to actually be the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "cells that not only are they resilient,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "they're also appear to be non-turogenic,"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "meaning they aren't going to create or"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "exasperate tumors. In studies with mice"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "that had tumors, the pre-existing"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "tumors, they actually appeared to shrink"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the tumor. One of the concerns with pur"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "potent stem cells is they could enhance"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "the tumor. And so if somebody had an"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "undiagnosed cancer, the the fear is"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "would it exasperate that cancer? And"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "there's not a ton of compelling data"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that shows it will, but that's one of"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "the fears. This subset phenotype of stem"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "cell won't do that. Okay, so those are"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "some of like the things around the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "safety of them. They did organ"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "transplants with mice where um they"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "literally sutured in part of a liver and"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "the mice that were given muse cells"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "accepted that liver 100% of the time"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "which the mice that didn't have that"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "rejected the liver and died."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> So it appears to amun modulate the"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "healing factor and it speed up the"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "recovery. They did studies in"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Alzheimer's where they looked at the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "brain and 18 months later these tagged"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "cells were all in the brain. The brain"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "was lit up like a Christmas tree 18"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "months later, which is game changer"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "because the cells we use today are out"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "of your system in four to 6 weeks. Like"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "they're literally out of there in days."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Sometimes you can get four to six weeks."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "The healing effect and the benefits are"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "there for four to six weeks, but the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "cells are gone in days. These muse cells"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "appear to stay in the body for what"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "looks like to be years."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Wow. And then it even I mean you just"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "name it whether orthopedic injuries,"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "spine injuries, back injuries, uh all of"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "the data is just unbelievable. And the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "way she explains it is think of this the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "typical stem cell as a foot soldier and"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "think of the muse cell as Delta"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "operators or you know uh the the Army"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Rangers, Navy Seals. They're the cells"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "that are doing most of the heavy lifting"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "and they're the real cells that are"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "driving everything. And because these"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "cells are so resilient, you can expand"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "them in a petri dish without losing"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "viability and you can keep them in"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "what's called the Goldilock zone. And so"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "you're not losing cells through the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "expansion process, you're gaining cells"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "and you keep them at a two basically"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "expand it twice. And now you've got this"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "plethora of these super potent stem"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "cells. And here's the most interesting"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "of all. This is the this is where the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "rubber hits the road in the studies."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Traditional stem cells, MSC's will find"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "your tired, weary cells and then"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "transfer their mitochondria"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "temporarily allowing your cells to be"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "younger again. Okay. The way muse cells"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "appear to work and the way the scientist"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Mari explains it is think of them like a"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Pac-Man and they come and they eat your"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "dying cell and take on the personality"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "of the dead cell and become a young baby"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "version of that cell."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "So, she's doing studies on Alzheimer's,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "on dementia, uh on all of these"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "different disease states that have"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "historically been very challenging um to"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "treat even with with the stem cell"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "technology. Um but preliminary like data"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "and everything that we've seen is pretty"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "mind-blowing."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": ">> How long until I can come try it?"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> We'll talk about it."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> Can I be a test dummy? Can I be a lab"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "rat? That's that I'm working to um help"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "hopefully through the current"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "administration to open the pathway the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "regulatory pathway to allow people to"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "have accessibility to all these things."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> Um we've treated a handful of patients"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "with these modalities and right now the"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "results are phenomenal and even with the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "traditional MSC's man I have never in my"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "life seen the results that we have"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "gotten just with what we have now. I I"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "mean with with with regards to"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "orthopedic injuries, knees, shoulders."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> what about like dementia, stuff like"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": ">> We haven't treated a ton of folks with"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "dementia. We've treated Well, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "I've talked about Jesse's dad, uh our"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "mutual friend Jesse Michaels. Um we"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "treated his dad and it was pretty crazy."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "We we treated him interasally and it"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "allows it to pierce the bloodb brain"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "barrier. And he came in as a mega"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "skeptic and literally I mean you can ask"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "Jesse this. I'm sure you guys talk."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Jesse's like dude my dad is a mega"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "skeptic and his dad and mom are both"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "like I she said I have my husband back."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "I I have my for the first time in years"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "I have my husband back. and his dad"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "said, \"I feel like a fog of the last 2"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "years has just dissipated and I"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "teleported back into my body.\""}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> I I don't know what you guys just gave"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "me. And look that I want to be clear,"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "that's a sample size of one. And I'm not"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "saying that, but even with traditional"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "MSC's, we had kid, we had a child, a"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "guy's family reach out, the kid I think"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "is like 19,"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> muscular distrophe, Duchaine's muscular"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "distrophe was in a wheelchair. They"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "heard me on Rogan. They called and said,"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "\"We've been saving up. We saved up"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "$30,000. Can we get it done for that?\""}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "I'm like, \"We're like $4,500, but if"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "I've never treated this and I don't want"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "to take your life savings, if you just"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "can get to Austin, we'll treat you.\" And"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "I've told this story. He was in a"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "wheelchair and he can walk 33 feet now."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> He can walk 33 feet. Hand to God. This"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "is a true story. We had another kid, a"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "20some year old kid who got in a car"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "accident a year ago. He's been in a"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "wheelchair. They told him, \"You're"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "paralyzed. You'll never walk again.\""}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Came in. I mean, granted, we did"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "peptides. We did red light. We did"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "hyperbaric. He's been going through"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "weeks of treatments. He can stand."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": ">> He can stand now. And he's gaining"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "control of his entire lower body, and"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "he's starting to walk. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "I know there was a lot of uh there was a"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "lot of like skepticism about Bobby"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Kennedy before the election happened."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Like even leading up to when he was"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "trying to get confirmed,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> right? Like there was people like the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Cali Beans and and his sister Casey who"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "were going on Tucker Carlson, going on"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Rogan, talking about the hyperprocessed"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "foods [snorts] and because I mean Bobby"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "has historically been known for the guy"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "who wrote the books about the vaccines,"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "who called out Fouchy. He was like the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "vaccine guy. A lot of people labeled him"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "as this conspiracy theorist."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "And um you know right before he was"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "getting confirmed he kind of he kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "like wasn't talking about vaccines. Now"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "it's all about hyperprocessed foods."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> So like people were like I had a I did a"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "debate on this podcast with I don't know"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "if you saw it was uh Cali means and Jack"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Cruz and he was like what's going on?"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "He's like what what is this push back?"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Did the vac he people were thinking that"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> I saw it"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> the vaccine companies had gotten to"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Bobby."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Right. And that's the only reason"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> I think that was political strategy"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "because I think the vaccine schedule did"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "get changed right in a moment like that"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "you don't want to fight that you you"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "don't want to pick the biggest bully in"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "the in the in the courtyard and punch"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "him in the face when you're in the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "middle of going through what you're he"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "was going to go through. Yeah. So I"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "think it was a strategic move that made"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "great political sense. Stay silent on a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "topic that could be polarizing. Give"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "yourself time. Live to fight another"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "day. And the plan worked because now"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Secretary Kennedy has been able to fix"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the vaccine schedule and bring it back"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "to the right to choose. Right. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "what's crazy about all that"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> to me. If you want to vaccinate your"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "child, vaccinate your child,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> All"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "smoke a cigarette. But know what the"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "[ __ ] it is, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> Yes. And all Secretary Kennedy has done"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "is provide a pathway for people to have"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "what option they think is best for them"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "in their personal situation. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> That's it. And get rid of the mandates"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> if you're trying to get or I completely"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "understand. I think any rational thinker"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "could understand, any reasonable person"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "could see if you want to get through get"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "into initiate into this system, this"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "political system where you're surrounded"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "by people whose pockets are lined by"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "pharmaceutical companies. You're not"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "going to get through the door saying"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "vaccines need to be abolished."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Correct. and made illegal because"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> because you also got to think you've got"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "to get through all these other"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "politicians and these politicians"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "lobbyed and these politicians have been"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "indoctrinated into a system that they"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "believe in and all the things we talked"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "about like like I said so many people go"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "it's not FDA approved bad it is FDA"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "approved good it's not that black and"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "white it is not that binary it's not"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "zero or one it's both in every instance"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> what is the tool in the tool belt what"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "is the patient what is this what is"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "unique to this individual"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "It should be a choice. [snorts] I am a"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "huge proponent of freedom of choice. It"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "is your choice. It is your job to take"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "care of your body and your family. And"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "I've I've listened to Cali take bullets"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "over focusing on food and they say he"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "ignored big pharma and he did this and"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "he did that. And it's just not true. I"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "think Cali is trying to shoot the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "alligator that's closest to the boat."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "And my experience with Cali means and"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Casey means is they are stewards of the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "American people and that they're"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "fighting for truth. And uh Cali and I"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "have collaborated on a lot of different"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "things and worked together and his focus"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "and his his history is in the food"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "beverage industry, right? And so he's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "intimately familiar with the tactics for"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "that stuff, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> Correct. For Coca-Cola. And so he's he"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "knows where the bodies are buried. He"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "knows the secret to the game. And he"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "knows how corrupt it is. Right."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> And I'm sure he broke down for you how"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "most of the big food companies uh are"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "now nothing more than shills that that"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "were acquired by the big tobacco"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "industry and they implemented that same"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "lobbying in that same strategy in that"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "sector."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> But if you look at what's actually"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "happening"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> at this point in time,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> whatever Calli and Bobby did was right"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "because not only have they freed up the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "freedom of choice on vaccines, we've"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "already began to overhaul the food"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "system. There was an announcement made"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "again with the food pyramid and they"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "flipped it upside down and everyone's"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "like, \"Well, that's not that big of a"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "deal.\" And it's like, \"No, but what you"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "don't understand is this isn't just a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "guideline."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> This guideline and framework is"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "literally what influences school food"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "programs, our welfare food programs, our"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "governmental payer programs, our"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "military food programs, and it"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "establishes precedent. And that"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "precedent will cascade throughout the"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "rest of the United States. And what we"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "feed our children in schools will lead"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "to the diet, lifestyle, and behaviors"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "they carry into adulthood. And when we"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "were feeding children ultrarocessed"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "foods and Cokes, and most of food stamps"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "were being spent on soft drinks, which"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "is nothing more than diabetes in liquid"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "form,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> they're still doing that at my kids"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "school."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> Are they really?"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> It's so crazy. I testified in Texas"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "against uh for the for the food bill,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the Maja food bill, and literally in my"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "testimony, the lady opens a Coke and"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "goes"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "right into the mic and takes her drink."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "God,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> and I was trying to explain to them, do"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "you know what? Like, let's just put all"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "your ego aside. Put this as like this is"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "a battle between me and you. Let's just"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "look at it pragmatically."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "The difference between a chronically"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "ill, dying human being of diabetes and a"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "healthy human being is less than a"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "teaspoon of sugar in the blood at a"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "time. Do you know how much sugar is in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "one soft drink? Eight teaspoons."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "Teaspoons or tablespoons. It may even be"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "tablespoons. Eight. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "And now you're giving it to a child who"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "is not a full man, not a full- grown"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "woman, a small human, consuming eight"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "times what would be considered"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "catastrophic in their bloodstream at one"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> And that's assuming that child only"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "drinks one of those a day."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> And you wonder why we're chronically"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "ill, chronically obese, and chronically"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "dealing with diabetes and metabolic"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "disease,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> It's it's insane."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> They go 8 to 10 teaspoons. Eight to 10"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "teaspoons of sugar in a 12 ounce soda."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> It's crazy."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> It's the [laughter] equivalent to"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "drinking."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> It was unfort that podcast was a little"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "unfortunate the way it went because"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Cali, he he came in uh with an open"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "mind. Uh I think willing to learn."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> And uh there was two diametrically"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "opposed uh points of view there. You"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "know, I can also understand Jack's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "perspective. He deals with patience. His"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "career has been dealing with like life"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "and death situations with one person."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Calli's more of a big systems guy."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Um, Ivy League type guy. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> and you know, it it would be the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "stupidest thing for him to do to call"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "for the ban of all vaccines at that"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "point in time when like he's about to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "get confirmed, you know."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> Yeah. And but here's what's challenging"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "too though. People try to label those"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "folks like Bobby as antivax. He's not"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "antivax. He's pro- science, pro data,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "pro checks and balances, pro not give"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "the keys to the [ __ ] castle away to"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "an industry that has sold chronic"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "disease and perpetuated chronic disease."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> It comes down to a very simple fact. If"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "what we were doing for the last 20 years"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "worked, then why are we more sick than"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "ever, more diabetic than ever, more"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "riddled with cancer than ever, more"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "depressed than ever, more suicides than"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "ever, more deaths of despair than ever?"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Your system is not working. And at some"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "point we have to say the emperor wears"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "no clothes. [laughter and gasps]"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Somebody's got to call a spade a spade."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": ">> But in politics, unfortunately, you got"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "to play the political game and I think"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "be savvy about it. That's the beauty for"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "me. I might I'm not a politician. I'm an"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "entrepreneur and I'm just in healthcare"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "trying to help people find the right way"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "to optimize their health and drive their"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "health span."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> And so I can I don't have to hold back."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "But I think in politics sometimes you"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "have to horse trade."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> Yes, definitely. Now, explain what was"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "go what. 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Like I was telling you, I was"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "like, anyone I see who like loses a lot"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "of fat quick, my my [ __ ] detectors"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "go up like, is that [ __ ] on JLP"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "ones?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> I can tell you 100% and I I even said"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "this to Men's Health magazine in the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "interview they did about his weight"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "transformation. I said, \"If there's one"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "[ __ ] person in the world that has a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "lot to gain about saying GLP1s,\" and he"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "did a GLP-1, we compound GLP-1s. I own a"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "pharmacy that makes GLP-1s. I own a"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "clinic that utilizes and prescribes"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "GLP-1s when appropriate."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Even with all that, I tell people, you"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "don't need a GLP-1. It's a tool in the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "tool belt. It doesn't mean that it's the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "only tool in the tool belt. And often"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "times there are other things we can do"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "to optimize your health like putting on"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "lean muscle mass, increasing metabolic"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "rate, helping you feel energized and"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "ready, reducing estrogen levels,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "reducing inflammation, reducing water"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "retention, upping your energy level. And"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "all of that comes back to you can't do"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "that if you don't look under the hood."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "If you don't do comprehensive blood work"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "and you go into a primary care and they"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "don't run your blood work or ask you if"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "you're willing to do a DEXA,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> don't do a GLP1,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> If they don't talk to you about diet,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "lifestyle, nutrition, do not take a GLP1"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "from that doctor. I'm just telling you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "like taking a GLP-1 without talking"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "about diet, lifestyle, nutrition is like"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "brushing your teeth while eating [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Oreos. It makes no [ __ ] sense, man."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "You're going to have to refine your"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "diet. Even on a GLP-1, it's if you"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "don't, you're just you're literally"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "chemically anorexic. You're just"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "creating chemical anorexia. It's a"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "chemical straight jacket where you're"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "not hungry. It doesn't mean that the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "molecule is bad. It means that the"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "person advising you on the molecule is"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "incompetent."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Mhm. And there are unfortunately a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "of doctors in this country that are"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "reaching for a GLP-1 before they've ever"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "asked the question, before they've ever"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "got to know you as a patient, before"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "they've ever uncovered the root cause,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "before they ever dove into you at the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "biological level."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> There is no value in that."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> And so when when Jay came into us, the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "first thing we did was let's do a DEXA."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Let's look at where you're at. Let's"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "look at your body fat. Let's uh jelly"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "roll. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": ">> So, let's get through all of these"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "diagnostic tools. Let's do a full blood"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "work. Let's look at you. And he broke"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "this down on Joe, so I'm not sharing"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "anything HIPPA. And he's also giving me"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "permission to talk about it in the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "public setting. But the first thing my"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "clinician told him is, we've got to get"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "your testosterone up. We've got to get"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "your estrogen down, and we've got to"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "reduce your inflammation, and we've got"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "to get your insulin under control. If we"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "do those things, we never have to reach"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "for a GLP-1. We can do all of those"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "things and we can help you with diet,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "lifestyle, nutrition. We can get"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "strategic and you need to exercise and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "you need to be in motion. And he was"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "already doing the exercise in the diet"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "and all we did was try and optimize the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "hormones, optimize the overall"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "biomarkers and put him in a position of"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "homeostasis where the weight would fall"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "off. And Jelly did the rest. The guy"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "worked his ass off. He got up every day."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "He started walking. I told this I think"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "I told you the story before. He he said"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "he had lied to himself and his family"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "time and time again and said, \"Tomorrow"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "I'm going to start. Tomorrow I'm going"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "to start. Tomorrow I'm going to start.\""}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "And after he came in, he gets back home"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "to Nashville and he says, \"Tomorrow I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "going to start.\" And he wakes up and"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "it's pouring [ __ ] rain. And he told"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "the story, he said, \"I I sat there and I"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "thought, I'm I don't give a [ __ ] I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "going to do it today.\" And he walked, I"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "think he said, three miles in the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "[ __ ] pouring rain. And when he gets"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "back up the steps and he comes up this"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "long hill to get back into his house,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "his wife and his daughter were there"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "cheering him on and he just got in there"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "and started crying."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": ">> Because he finally stopped lying to"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "himself and lying to them and he became"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "a man of his word again and he never"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "looked back."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> And it's like a drug is not going to do"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "that, man. Everything starts with you."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Everything. And I don't want to sell"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "somebody a medicine or a drug. I want to"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "sell you long-term solutions that help"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "you drive your health span. And that's"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "going to come from diet, lifestyle,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "nutrition, and from you having honesty"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "and integrity with yourself on where you"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "are and how you get there. And it's not"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "at the bottom of a pill bottle,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": ">> Is not like that's just one tool in the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "tool belt."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Yeah, man. That's powerful hearing"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "stories like that. That Yeah, that is"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "really awesome. And you know, also some"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "people that I've seen that do the start"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "with the GLP ones, that can also be like"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "a catalyst for them to get motivated"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "about everything else, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "once they start to see"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> some sort of physical change happen in"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the mirror or like the needle's moving"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "in the right direction now that can like"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "be a catalyst to push them off the cliff"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "to like go get in the gym, to change"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "their diet"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> 100%. And to you know that that can be"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the cascading effect that"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> I've said this I am not anti-GLP1 like I"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "have seen it change people's lives"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> ch I had another I had another a"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "friend's wife who said bring them for"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "the first time I work at a hospital for"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "the first time when everyone's in the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "lounge eating cookies or a cake or it's"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "somebody's birthday I have enough"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "self-control to walk by it and go yeah I"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "don't I don't want that. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> And that little win leads to other"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "little wins. And then you wake up one"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "day. I lived it. I I [ __ ] lived that."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "I was 25% body fat on the cusp of"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "diabetes. And when I finally got my"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "hormones right, weight started coming"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "off. And I was like, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> dude. I may actually be able to be in"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "shape.\" Like, I never thought I didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "think that was even possible. And I tell"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "so many people this."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "My goal and our goal at Ways to Well is"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "not to be a dictator and dictate to you"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "take this, do this, do that. No, it's to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "give you the pros and the cons and to"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "give you the right information to guide"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "you and allow you to take sovereignty"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and autonomy over your health. And how"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "you do that is you educate a patient,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "you empower a patient, and you get the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "[ __ ] out of their way."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> You don't dictate to a patient, you're"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "not taking this or you're not. No. When"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "when somebody comes in and says, \"I want"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "a GLP-1.\" I'm not here to tell you no."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "I'm here to give you the answers as to"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the pros and cons. Right? If you're a 90"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "105 pound girl trying to lose weight for"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "spring break, that is not the molecule"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "you should be reaching [laughter] for."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Right? But if you're a 500B guy who's"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "been overweight your whole life, you"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "shouldn't be scared of a GLP1. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "saying it's your only solution. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "saying it's the only way out of where"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "you're at,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> but it's a viable tool and you shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "be scared of it if utilized"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "appropriately. But understand, you're"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "still going to have to do the diet, the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "lifestyle, and the nutrition."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> You just got to show them the light."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Just give them a little glimmer of light"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and they're going to want to go get more"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "sunshine."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> You know, and once you see how you feel"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "when you can actually get there is like"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "it can be astonishing. The difference,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> if you see all the comedians at Rogan's"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Club and the transformations of all"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "these comedians, like all these"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "comedians were"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> because he gets them all ways to well,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "right? Well, they've all like dialed in"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "their nutrition. They all work out now."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "And these guys that used to be drinking"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and partying and putting on weight are"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "now in their 40s and 50s and 60s and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "they're waking up and training and they"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "realize their mental acuity is better."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Their data, their recall, their ability"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "to communicate, their ability to hit"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "that punchline. They're sharper. They're"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "clearer."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> It's a cascade effect. Wins create wins"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "and momentum creates momentum. And our"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "goal is to create a [ __ ] avalanche."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> Like create an avalanche of winds. And"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "it's possible for anyone. The first"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "thing you do when you find yourself in a"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "hole is stop [ __ ] digging"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> and then let's dig you out of there and"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "let's put wins on the board."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> If you enjoy watching our show on"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Spotify or YouTube and you want to be"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "more involved, I encourage you to please"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "come check out our Patreon community."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Not only does our Patreon community get"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "every episode you see on YouTube early,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "fully uncensored, and adree, but we're"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "also doing Patreon exclusive episodes as"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "well as live Q&As's. and you can get"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "your personal questions answered by our"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "guests every single week. For me, being"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "able to collaborate and communicate back"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and forth with our Patreon community"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "every week has been huge. And this is my"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "way of saying thank you for the cost of"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "a cup of coffee a month. Now back to the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "show."}]

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It's an FDA"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "approved product."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> I can systematically dismantle that and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "I'm going to in the next one minute"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> through facts, data, and the reality."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "And I actually argued with a"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "high-ranking FDA official about this"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "very topic. Okay, let's start on the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "surgical market because I told you I had"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "a lot of experience working in the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "surgical market."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "If you look at every single surgical"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "product that goes into the operating"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "room, I'm talking pacemakers, implants,"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "uh women's health products, men's health"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "products, uh neurological products that"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "are going into your brain, uh joints,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "what percentage of those products do you"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "think had a human safety study?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "I don't even want to guess."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> The answer is less than 10%."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "92%"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "of the [ __ ] that has gone into the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "operating room for the last 20 years has"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "never had one single human safety study."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Not one. And you go, how is that"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "possible? Because in the 1980s, the big"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "medical establishment lobbyed the FDA to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "establish what's called the 510K"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "approval process. What that said is if"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "you can show a pre-existing technology"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that exists in the operating room, you"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "can daisychain your technology into the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "operating room. Why is that important?"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "That's like saying if I have a Bell"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "telephone on a cable at my house and now"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "I have an iPhone that's a [ __ ] rocket"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "ship in my pocket. It's the same piece"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "of technology because you daisy chained"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "a daisy chain, a daisy chain, a daisy"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "chain, a daisy chain. That's like saying"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "a Tesla is a Model T Ford,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> Right. The evolution of technology is"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "rapidly progressing. And why is that"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "important,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> man? I can tell you in my time in the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "operating room,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "I have seen people die in procedures"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "that will never be reported that will"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "never get reported to the FDA 100%."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Because what happens is the hospital and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "the big medical device company will put"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "together a package deal for that family"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "and they will pay the family and they"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "will all sign NDAs and they'll shut it"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "down so it doesn't become public. And"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "so, one real world example, in my stint"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "in the operating room, we launched"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "high-res HD cameras. And when the first"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "highdefinition came out into the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "operating room, and you're in the middle"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "of a critical procedure, I was standing"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "in a heart surgery. And every time"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "you're using the camera to look at a"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "screen and do this heart procedure,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "every time they would cauterize, the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "[ __ ] camera would turn off. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "literally in the heart valves and the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "camera go and just shut off."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "They had never validation tested the"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "chipset to be used against"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "electrocottery. So as soon as the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "electrocottery would engage, it would"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "turn off the [ __ ] chipset in the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "camera."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> They're flying blind."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Flying blind. They have to stop and"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "they're like, \"What happened? What"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "happened?\""}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> And this was a glitch that never got"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "discovered because they never did any of"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "these safety studies. And then you can"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "go, I mean, I can give you literally"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "dozens and dozens and dozens of"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "examples. There was a product called"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Eshure. there was a where they'd go in"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "and put a implant into the uterus, but"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "what they didn't realize is they they"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "did studies about putting them in, but"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "they never did studies about putting"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "them out. So, what if a woman wanted to"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "reverse it? Well, now her uter uterral"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "wall had grown into it and it was"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "literally causing women to lose their"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "fertility where they could never have"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "children and all of these things"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "happened like every day. Yeah. That"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "would that implant would would grow into"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the woman's body where she couldn't have"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "the procedure. she couldn't remove it"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> and so she'd be infertile"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> and there one of the companies created a"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "joint and this is a true story too which"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "is kind of funny uh because they don't"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "ever do these human studies the joint"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "after about a year would start squeaking"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "so you would walk and it go"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "and how the lawsuit came up is a guy was"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "having sex with his wife this is a legit"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "story and his hip was squeaking the"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "whole time and so he filed a lawsuit"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "because he had like this squeaky hip but"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "the only way to fix that is to rip the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "hip out, right? And these are some of"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "the more like funny stories, but I also"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "saw, you know, um there was like a"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "shaver that was used to shave down"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "tissue and they had changed it so many"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "times over its evolution of 20 years."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "What they didn't do is take into"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "account, you've got to be able to clean"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "the shaver and clean out the tissue that"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "flows through this canulated piece of"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "device. And the tissue was building up"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "in these shavers. And these shavers were"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "being dispensed all over hospital"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "systems. And it's a theory of clean"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "dirt. You cook and sterilize these"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "shavers to kill the bacteria."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "But if there's a big old clump of tissue"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "from an infected patient stuck in the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "middle of a canula straw that you can't"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "see because you can't see down into the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "straw."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> That tissue could harbor an"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "ulti-resilient bacteria"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> and it happened"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> and it killed people and there are"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "examples after. So one 510k approval"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "process. Well, that's the most that's"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "like the number two or three cause of"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "death."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> Number three cause of death is medical"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "misdiagnosis and misuse. That was where"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "I was going. Terrified of hospitals."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> Now, you go to the drug side of the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "world,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> right? And this is my discussion with"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "this high ranking official at the FDA"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "because he said, \"We don't have any"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "double blind placeboc controlled FDA"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "trials on peptides, right?\""}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> And I said, \"That's because peptides"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "occur naturally in nature. They're a"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "short- chain amino acid and we cannot"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "patent a peptide. It's it's human patent"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "law. You can try. Why is big pharma not"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "winning its lawsuits on the GLP1s?"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "because they're peptides. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "readily you can patent the delivery"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "mechanism, you can patent the dosage,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "you cannot patent the molecule"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> because the molecule is available in"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "nature,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> right? And so that's the problem with"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "peptides. It's an un it's a new world."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "That's the problem with stem cell"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "therapy. It's a new world. You can"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "patent the delivery mechanism or a"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "protocol or a procedure, but you cannot"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "patent the molecule"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> because a biological molecule comes from"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "nature."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> It's already there. And so there's"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "challenges around that and you won't win"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "in patent law. Um, so let's look at even"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "drugs. Sorry, I know this is I went way"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "off top on the 510K, but let's go back"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "to drugs, which is the main point"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "because that would be a competitor to a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "peptide is a drug. 60 to 80% of the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "drugs that have been approved by the FDA"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "will have a major recall or label"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "change."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> 60 to 80%."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": ">> 60 a coin toss,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> right? Even after going through your"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "human safety studies and all your data,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "it's a coin toss. Furthermore, when you"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "look at human safety studies, if you"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "already have a pre-existing study around"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "safety and you apply for a new"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "indication, meaning you grow the patient"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "population, which is what I told you my"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "whole job was as a drug rep, right? This"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "is indicated for depression, but we"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "think it may work in anxiety. Okay?"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Well, anxiety is a different patient"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "population. anxiety may impact a"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "different subset of of of the human"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "population and that subset may have a"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "different response to this modality. So"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "like one example I give you is opioids."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> Polynesians and Hawaiians can't absorb"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "opioids. So they don't get any"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "therapeutic benefit from an opioid."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "They're an outlier. They have"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> they can't absorb them."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> They absorb the negatives of it, but"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "they don't get the therapeutic relief."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "It's a gene defect that"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Polynesians and who"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> and and like Hawaiians and Polynesians"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "have a Yeah, they for whatever reason"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "opioids do not provide the pain relief"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "typically in those populations, but"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "they're still addictive and they still"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "wreck the endocrine system and they"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "still cause all these other"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> crazy side effects. And so, how did"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Oxycontton get into the market? Prior to"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Oxycottton, they used hydro they used"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "coding"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> and they had the oxy they had the uh the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "cotton delivery system and so it was"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "coding in the cotton delivery system and"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the premise was coding was timereleased"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "which reduced the likelihood of becoming"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "addicted. The patent was going to expire"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and they were running out of time to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "innovate a new drug. So the Purdue"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Pharma family said, \"We've got to bring"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "a new drug to market. We're losing our"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "cash cow.\" They go out and they find a"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "new opioid called Oxy. But what they"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "didn't tell the American public is Oxy"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "is eight times more addictive, abusive,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "and habit forming than coding."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "It was a nuclear bomb. And they were"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "able to lobby the FDA commissioner at"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the time to allow them to grandfather in"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "the safety data of their coding product"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "based off the cotton delivery system."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "And the message was this is"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "timereleased. It can't be abused. It"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "can't be addictive because it's time"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "released."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> But they never had they didn't have any"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "positive addiction data. They were able"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "to basically just talk their way into it"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "because of their pre-existing"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "relationship. The commissioner of the"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "FDA rubber stamped it, gave them an"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "indication for pain relief, and put in"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "the label the goose that laid the golden"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "egg, which said it's less likely to be"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "addictive, even though it was eight"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "times more likely to be addictive."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Pushed it into the marketplace, created"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "the opioid crisis, millions of Americans"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "die, and then guess who made 30% of that"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "money and has never been mentioned? The"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "PBMs."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "All this data is out there. 30% of the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "money went back to the insurance"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "companies. They've gotten off with this"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "scot-free this entire time. Nobody ever"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "talks about those guys. They just talk"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "about the pharmaceutical companies. And"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "the reason that's important is when I go"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "back to when I was trying to push"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "non-addictive, non-abusive pain creams,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the insurance companies would say, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "put them on an opioid.\""}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> And now you know why."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> Because 30% of their revenue was coming"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "from the opioid. So, they had no reason"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "to keep you off the opioid. They had"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "every reason to put you on the opioid."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Why would you not want somebody on a"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "pain cream? Because it's compounded. And"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "guess who doesn't make money off a"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "compounded drug, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> The insurance companies and the PBMs."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> And so, it all just comes full circle."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Here's the worst part of all. Guess who"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "the commission commissioner of the FDA"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "went to go work for 18 months later?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Purdue Pharma."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "for new pharma. 90% of the commission"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> just writes itself, bro."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> It's nuts, dude. And 90% of the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "commissioners of the FDA have gone to"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "work for the very industries that"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "they're supposed to regulate."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "90%."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> If you enjoy watching our show on"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Spotify or YouTube and you want to be"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "more involved, I encourage you to please"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "come check out our Patreon community."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Not only does our Patreon community get"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "every episode you see on YouTube early,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "fully uncensored, and adree, but we're"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "also doing Patreon exclusive episodes,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "as well as live Q&As's, and you can get"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "your personal questions answered by our"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "guests every single week. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Can you explain to me what's going on"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "with"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "pediatricians"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "and the vaccine schedules where there's"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "something going on where in their"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "practice they have to have a certain"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "percentage of their patients"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> vaccinated or else they lose some big"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "cash bonus?"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So what like I said earlier"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "a lot of these primary care practices"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "have been consumed by corporate"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "conglomerates and so they're no longer a"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "free working employee or freeworking"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "clinician they're an employee of an"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "institution and so let's give an example"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "of like"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "I think Kelsey Seabull I don't know do"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "you'all have Kelsey Seabull here in"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Florida? Kelsey Seabull is a huge health"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "care conglomerate that went out and"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "bought up a bunch of primary cares, but"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "they also own the hospital. And so the"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "premise is if you vertically integrate"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "as a healthcare institution and you own"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the primary care, you were the first"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "point of contact for a patient, what's"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "earlier than a primary care? A"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "pediatrician. So if you own the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "pediatric practice and you own the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "primary care practice and they all roll"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "up under the parent company, that's the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "hospital. And now you've vertically"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "integrated. If a little kid gets"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "injured, they go to your hospital,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "right? Because that's where that doctor,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "their primary, their pediatrician is"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "going to refer them. That's where that"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "primary care is going to refer you if"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "you go is the hospital that owns and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "pays their check, right? And so it's a a"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "way to capture a market and capture a"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "patient population."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Those hospital systems and institutions"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "buy vaccines at a wholesale price point"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "in bulk. And so if I'm some huge"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "hospital institution, I won't name names"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "because I don't want to get sued. If I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "some huge hospital system and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "to buy $5 million in vaccines this year"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and I know I can make it $10 million,"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "it's a $5 million revenue stream, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "I build in compliance programs that"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "incentivize my my pediatricians to make"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "sure that they have a certain compliance"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "schedule. And so you bonus your"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "employees for compliance, but indirectly"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "what you're really bonusing them for is"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "revenue because they're generating"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "revenue. And this is all going to come"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "out because I'm helping several states"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "sue"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> uh these various institutions to uncover"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "this. And we have the whistleblowers and"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "all this to prove it. Um and it's the"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "same model I I showed you earlier with"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "the PBM. So it's a little bit different."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Vaccines aren't typically controlled by"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "the PBM because they're earlier in the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "stage of care and they're not a"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "continual revenue source like a"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "prescription drug. But the vaccines are"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "purchased in bulk by hospital systems"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "that are usually the ones administering"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "this at birth. And so then your"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "clinician is trying to keep you uh you"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "know whether it's the birth schedule or"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "then you get to the the ped pediatric"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "practice, they want to make sure they"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "keep you on schedule. And I'm not here"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "to say like what I've learned with the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "pediatricians is they mean well, but"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "they were born into this system where"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "they are candidly I don't know. They're"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "just brainwashed."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> They're brainwashed to believe that this"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "is real that we need this. Oh my god, if"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "we don't give this kid he B shot like"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "he's going to die or she's No, they're"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "not. Is your child abusing introvenous"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "drugs or having sex the day they're"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "born? If both parents don't have HEP B"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "and the child's not going to be exposed"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "to dirty needles or sexual intercourse,"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "right, why are we giving them a HEP B"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "vaccine? And it's the plethora of all"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "those vaccines combined. There are,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "regardless of what you're told, there"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "are always risks, rewards for every"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "medication on the market. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> And then you take it and you put it in"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the tiniest of humans when they're at"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "the highest risk, when they're the most"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "susceptible, and you bombard their"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "immune system with a huge amount of"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "foreign substances, including metal"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "contaminants, aluminum, all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "things that are in these vaccines, even"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "at the most stringent levels, there's"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "still contaminants and uh aluminum based"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "products in these injections. And all of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "that leads to an immune response, an"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "inflammatory response. uh issues with"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "their absorption rate of certain"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "vitamins that are important in brain"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "development. Yeah. And that's partially"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "why"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> this administration is questioning is"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "there a correlation or causation uh with"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "autism"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> and and it and it's to be determined and"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "we're going to see as the more and more"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "data comes out. Well, it's crazy like"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "it's interesting you've used the term"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "brainwashed to describe some of the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "people that have were born into this"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "system like pediatric like good they"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "could be, you know, good people who mean"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "well when I question this stuff to my"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "because I have kids and I bring them in"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "to get their checkups and the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "pediatricians are constantly like how"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "many are we getting the shots today? Are"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "we getting the shots today? And they"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "they know when I walk in that they're"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "not getting shots, but they keep"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "pestering me about it. And when they"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "when I have to try to explain to them"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "why, they look at me like I'm the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "brainwashed one."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> Like I'm the psycho brainwashed cook,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "right? That's not wanting to give my kid"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "however many. What is it? 70s something"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "vaccines are supposed to get before"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "they're like six or something."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> It just keeps growing."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> Over 70 vaccines are on the schedule."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "And even when my when my latest daughter"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "was born, they were like looking at me"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "like I had three heads because I was"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "opting out of this hepatitis B vaccine."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "And then a month later, it comes out,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "thanks to Bobby Kennedy, the CDC no"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "longer recommends the hepatitis B"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "vaccine. But I'm sure there's like"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "hospitals like you were explaining those"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "vertically integrated healthc care"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "corporations that have the hospitals and"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "the health care clinics and the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "pediatricians under their wing that if"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "your"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> baby is born in their hospital, they're"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "still going to probably push all that"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "stuff on you, right? They're not"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": ">> 100%. And it's even the same with the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "flu shot."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> The flu shot is vertically integrated"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "every hospital system, too. And every"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "rep that goes into that hospital systems"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "told, \"Hey, you're not allowed to come"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "in here unless you get the flu shot."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "We're giving flu shots downstairs if you"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "want to go get one.\" So, so even like"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "I've seen a lot of positive things go"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "through the FDA recently through like"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "through Bobby Kennedy like recommending"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "not recommending these hep vaccines. Is"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "there when it comes to the incentive"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "like that top down incentive for the"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "providers to get all of those vaccines"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "used up by their patients?"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Is there any"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "effect to that system at all? Like is"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "there is there going to be any"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "sort of like push back against that to"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "where they're not going to be legally"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "allowed to do that?"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> Not that I'm aware of. I think the main"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "thing is you're giving you and this is"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "where people get fanatical about this."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> Yeah. your insurance and this entire"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "system will still allow you to get the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "vaccines."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> If that is your choice for your child"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and you want them to have every single"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "vaccine that used to be on the schedule,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "you're still allowed to do that, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> Nobody's stopping you from doing that."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "What they did was build a safety net"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "that allows the people who don't believe"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "in this model, who question this model,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "especially after what we saw with the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "mRNA vaccines and co like do we trust"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "this system and do I want to put this"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "little child through this or am I"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "skeptical on things like the HEP B"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "vaccine? Like I don't think anyone's"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "arguing that there's not tremendous"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "value in vaccines, but when you give the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "keys to the castle over to industry and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "you turn the blind eye, you will see"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "time and time and time again that"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "ultimate c power comes ultimate"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "corruption. You cannot allow these"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "people to operate without checks and"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "balances. I say you have to keep honest"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "people honest."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Right. Well, like will they cuz right"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "now if you if we don't continue the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "vaccine schedule with our kids, they can"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "kick us out, right? They don't have to"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "see us anymore."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> Yeah, I know the state of Texas is"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "actually and I I don't know if other"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "states are going to follow suit. The"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "state of Texas is attempting to make"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "that illegal."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> That should be"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> at the state level. not 100% sure"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> because they do not want to allow"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "clinicians to ban a child from a"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "practice to force that child to get"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "vaccinated because in reality there is a"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "financial incentive for that institution"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "and I am not saying that that's what the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the pediatrician's driving factor is my"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "experience with pediatricians"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> is they were born and raised in that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "system and they are blind believers in"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "academia and when you talk it's the same"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "thing you and I talked about with"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "pyramids with anything like the"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "academics strugg struggle to break that"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "dogma."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> If you enjoy watching our show on"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Spotify or YouTube and you want to be"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "more involved, I encourage you to please"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "come check out our Patreon community."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Not only does our Patreon community get"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "every episode you see on YouTube early,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "fully uncensored, and adree, but we're"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "also doing Patreon exclusive episodes as"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "well as live Q&As's. 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And the only \nreason I know this, so so many people go, one of  "}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the things that's come out a lot, especially since \nI've been helping Secretary Kennedy and the Maha  "}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "movement and trying to educate people on these \nnuances of healthcare, is, \"Well, that guy's not  "}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "a doctor. How can he tell me? I'm not a doctor, \nbut I employ doctors. I'm not a pharmacist, but  "}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "I employ over a 100 pharmacist. I'm not a chemist, \nbut I employ chemists. I'm not a PhD, but I employ  "}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "PhDs. And I have over 25 years of experience in \nhealthcare. And I am telling you the problem is  "}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "not with the fish. 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And  "}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "so I was like the hottest thing in town because I \nlaunched the drug in Seattle. And so I choked on  "}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Rogan like dick pills were where the money was at. \nEveryone loved to talk to you. They wanted it for  "}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "their buddies. They wanted samples. It was fun. \nAnd I was a 20-year-old kid. And so that was the  "}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "fun side of that. And I did that for almost a year \nand a half. But at one point I got reallocated,  "}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "relocated to Houston, Texas, Texas Medical Center, \nwhere they shifted my focus to mental health  "}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "drugs. And that was where I first started to see \nthe darkness of being a drug rep. 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I was sitting in a training with a \nuh psychologist who was educating or psychiatrist  "}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "who was educating us on the prescription and \nwe're going over placebo versus at the time it  "}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "was Prozac and it was like a 3% difference in \nefficacy. Placebo was almost as efficacious as  "}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "the anti-depressant. Wow. And I remember asking \nwhy is placebo so close. So now jump forward 30  "}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "years later since anti-depressants hit the market. \nRates of depression are at an all-time high. Rates  "}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "of suicide are at an all-time high. Deaths of \ndespair at an all-time high. Everything across the  "}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "board mental health-wise in America is the worst \nit's ever been. When we launched anti-depressants  "}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "30 years ago, they said we are going to end \ndepression. We are going to stop depression.  "}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Do you know what the the current prescription \nrates are of these uh anti-depressants are? Oh,  "}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "a huge amount of American have they continued \nwith the trajectory. They've continued with the  "}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "trajectory and it's an ecosystem that's built \nin. And the dirty secret is if we were sold on  "}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "that depression is a serotonin issue. You don't \nhave enough serotonin in the brain. And if we can  "}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "upregulate your serotonin reuptake inhibitor, \nwe can we can spike your serotonin levels. Do  "}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "you know where that comes from? It's the craziest \nthing ever. There has never been one single study.  "}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "There has never been one single autopsy. There \nhas never been the ability to quantify serotonin  "}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "levels in the brain that statistically show that \nanti-depressants are working at a chemical level.  "}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "So you go, wait, then how did they come up with \nthat? Fizer developed a questionnaire alongside  "}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "one of their consultants who at the time ran \nthe American Psychiatric Association for America  "}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "and they tasked him with a questionnaire about \ndepression. All of these are diagnostic tests that  "}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "are questionbased. There was never it was a theory \nthat got written into history as a reality. But  "}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "the reality of the matter is we have no evidence \nthat it is a serotonin related issue. That's  "}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "insane. And then that's like taking a questionire \nto figure out what your cholesterol is. Exactly.  "}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "That's my And so furthermore, even to this day, \nexercise and sleep outperform anti-depressants.  "}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Somebody if they just go for a walk, it's going \nto astronomically outperform anti-depressants.  "}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Yeah. Here's the trends on all I mean and it's a \ngrowing market and it's a booming market and it's  "}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "a market that has been marketed and perpetuated \nand beat into the heads of primary careers since  "}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "they were in med school. Yeah. Uh and they think \nand I'm not saying your doctor thinks they're  "}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "doing wrong. Your doctor believes in the system \nthat trained them. But who built that system  "}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "and who funds that system and where does their \ncontinuing education come from? It's all bought,  "}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "paid for, and developed by the very companies \nthat have the most to benefit by you being on  "}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "a prescription drug. And that is why you've seen \na boom in prescription drugs. Today, the average  "}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "American's on four or more prescription drugs. The \naverage American is on four or more prescription  "}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "drugs. If you enjoy watching our show on Spotify \nor YouTube and you want to be more involved,  "}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "I encourage you to please come check out \nour Patreon community. Not only does our  "}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Patreon community get every episode you see \non YouTube early, fully uncensored, and adree,  "}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "but we're also doing Patreon exclusive episodes, \nas well as live Q&As's, and you can get your  "}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "personal questions answered by our guests every \nsingle week. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "These people are saying trust the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "science. I'm going to take the this"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "advice from some billionaire who's"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "flying in his private jet over like I I"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "don't know if I trust you. Right. Is the"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "science settled? And and there's"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> Oh, the science has been settled for"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "decades."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> Well, there's also MIT scientists."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> No, no, no, no, no. There's the one"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "there's one MIT scientist. There's the"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "one. And so this is what happens when I"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "have this this I'm sorry to interrupt."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm sorry to"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "interrupt. So go ahead. No,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> no, no, no. I was going to say like"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "there there seems to be there seems to"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "be lots of there maybe there's one. I"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "don't know. Maybe it's the same one I've"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "heard and and as well as Princeton"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "scientists who who seem who seem to like"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> a lot of them don't seem to agree on"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "everything. And one of the things that"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "um I wasn't alive back then, but I guess"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "like after the 40s it was like there was"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "an emergency of cooling. There wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "great cooling event from the 40s to the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "'7s."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Yeah, there wasn't. Yeah, there wasn't."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "So, let me tell you the history because"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "I have a I have a here's my here's my"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "climate story. Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Adam's climate story. So, uh it's 1986"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "or 1985. I, you know, graduate from"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "University of Colorado. I'm like, I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "tired. You know, I know I'm going to go"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "to grad school. I need a break. So, I"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "took a year and a half off and I did"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "everything. I planted trees in British"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Columbia. 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And then 88 there's a famous um"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "uh testimony by James Hansen who ran"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "this he was the the the the big boss at"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "this place"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> when climate change sort of finally got"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "into people's imagination you know and"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "it wasn't until really the mid 2000s"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "that people really really really started"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "to hear about it."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Was that when the Gore documentary came"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Uh yeah that actually the Gore"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "documentary was a big part of you know"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "because Gore actually was friends with"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "the the main climate scientists who were"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "responsible with this. So"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> all those predictions were wrong by the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "way. No, all those predictions are"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "absolutely right."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> No, he said the sea level was going to"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "rise like 50 feet."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> Not anytime soon."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> He said, yeah, he said within 10 years."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Let's look that in 10 years. There's no"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "way he said the level is going to run 50"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "ft. I mean, that's insane. That's No."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "No. He wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> look up the predictions from the Gore"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "documentary. What was that documentary"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "called again? Inconvenient truth. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> inconvenient truth. You know, we have to"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "see that. Did he mean like if there was"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "a if there was an anomalous, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "melting event of the West Arctic end ice"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "sheets, you know, but no scientist would"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "say that that thing was"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> I was talking to my mom the other day"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "who's a you know, she's a she's really"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "big into this stuff, too. She she's um"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you know, she's on the very far left of"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the political spectrum. She's a uh fine"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "arts teacher. Right. Right. She grew up"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "in university. She got her master's"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "degree in fine art. She goes, [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "\"And I was talking about uh this house."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "We're looking at this like really nice"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "house on the on the on the water that"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "was like in near uh where my mom lives"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "or whatever and uh she's she's like,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "\"Oh, that house is going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "underwater in 50 years.\" She came by"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that really? I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "\"You grew up here, Mom? Wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "[ __ ] water line in the same exact"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "spot 50 years ago to where it is now?\""}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Well, no. The water's gone up."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Watch your brain. You know, it's not at"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the same place, right? It's it's, you"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "know, cuz it's been, you know, this"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "steady increase in measurable."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Absolutely. But, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Yeah. But all those houses have been"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "there like all those houses"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> because it's but it's it's in right now"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "it's in the it's on the level of"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "centimeters right so you know but the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "fly you know why are you let me go back"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "before we go back on this because I want"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "this is a really important point to make"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "the science and the scientists has the"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "science been settled right the science"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "so that was 86 right there's somebody"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "you know I'm I'm at this"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> NASA facility this was before there were"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "any politics it wasn't like an NZ fun"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "was like a liberal you know I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "teach this kid about science we're just"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "doing science"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Um, also when was the first time that a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "US president mentioned climate change?"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> The first time?"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> First time."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> I have no idea."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> But just just take a guess."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> Clinton,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> 1964."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> It's in a speech to Congress. Lyndon"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Johnson brings up carbon dioxide"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "pollution as he called it because"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "already Roger Rell and these scientists"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "had all that's why there was no there"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "was like one paper that somebody wrote"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "about the possibility of cooling in the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "70s and it got picked up by time"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "magazine most you know that was also so"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "early that nobody really nobody knew"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "what was going to happen. So it was a"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "paper and then time mag but there wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "like all the climate scientists were"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "like holy [ __ ] it's going to it was just"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "the data wasn't there yet but the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "understanding that the climate could"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "warm and most likely would warm there's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "a paper in 1903 by Sven arenous you know"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "that predicted you know he just he just"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "added up all the the coal burning the"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "CO2 burning and and predicted in 1903"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "because the science is so basic that"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "yeah the planet's probably going to warm"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "and he was Swedish so he's like great"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "more warming so anyway this idea We're"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "asking the question about is the science"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "settled? Science has been settled since"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "like the 1990s, right? And so what"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "happened was the there is we're talking"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "about rich people and you know trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "get their way. The oil companies and you"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Shell was brought to court for this. You"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "can see the documents. The oil companies"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "knew that like this is death for us."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Like if you know if we're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "because really what is this about? It's"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "about changing energy modalities, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "We power our civilization on fossil"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "fuels. We used to power our civilization"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "on wood."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> We just change. It's like it's not that"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "big a deal, but somebody stands to lose"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "a lot of money if you do this. So, the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "science was totally settled and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "somewhere around"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Yeah, but how much would it cost to to"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "reinvent a whole new"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> How many times have we done it? We've"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "done it'll cost something, but also"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "money is going to be made. Money will be"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "made. And you already see this with like"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "what's happening with renewables?"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "There's a place in Rochester."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": ">> Yeah, but solar panels have [ __ ] the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "bed."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> No, solar p What are you talking about?"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Solar panels."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> No one I know who has solar panels is"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "like they they've they've all"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Dude, you need to look at the world"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "economy. Solar panels. Look at what"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "China is doing with solar panels right"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "now. solar panels. There are more jobs"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "now. There are more jobs via solar"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "panels than there are for coal."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> But they're so inefficient."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> They're not inefficient. The"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "inefficiency has blown up from the time"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "I was growing up to now. The"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "inefficiency has the efficiency has"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "exploded. Look at China's uh um uh uh uh"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "uh solar and renewable policy. They are"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "flooding markets, you know, and they"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "China accounts for like 35% of all the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "CO2 emissions worldwide."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> Right. Right. and they are pushing, they"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "understand where the world economy is"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "going. The world economy is going to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "decarbonize. But let me there's a place"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "in Rochester I can stand where like"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "there's the Eerie Canal, right? There is"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "a train line and [clears throat] there's"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "a highway all in the same place and then"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "the jets fly right over it. That is four"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "different transportation infrastructures"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "that were built and then abandoned."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Right? We do this all the time. Humanity"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "constantly changes its transportation"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "infrastructure, its energy"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "infrastructure. This is just what we do,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "right? You know, and there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "huge amounts of money to be made just"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "like when oil first was born, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "when the beginning of the oil, the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "United States subsidized oil. We"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "subsidized oil production because it"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "made sense for the for the the country,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "you know. So, the only reason we're not"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "doing it now is because and we started"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "doing it is because"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> oil industry didn't want it because"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "there, you know, if you're the oil"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "industry and you've got what's called"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "proven reserves, you know, all this oil"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "in the ground, that's part of your bank"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "account. And if suddenly people are"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "like, you know, we're not going to use"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "oil anymore. or we're going to use you"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "know whatever renewables or nuclear or"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "something you know what happens to your"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "bank account rolls [snorts] to zero so"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "you know as somebody want I one time"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "when I was writing for the for uh NPR is"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "doing the science blog for NPR you know"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "I was talking about like yeah we're"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "going to change in energy infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "is going to be great and somebody wrote"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "back and said dude you know the the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "proven reserves are like8 trillion"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "dollars people have gone to war for a"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "lot less than that like they're not"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "giving up their wealth you know so"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "easily so what I saw in the starting"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "going back to the proven science was"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that somewhere around 20 2005 there"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "started to be organized climate denial,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "right? Like I would write something on"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "the NPR blog about like climate change."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Yeah. And I'd see likeoop"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "like all of a sudden I'd get these the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "comments back when there were comment"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "section just filling up filling up with"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "like that's a hoax blah blah blah blah"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "and I was like holy [ __ ] this is like"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "organized like somebody's like this is"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "not just random people."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> This happens on both sides. I mean"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "people there there's just un uninformed"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "fools on every on every"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> No, but this was not this was not"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "uninformed fools. This was organized. I"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "could see it happening. Like I wrote"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "something else on another, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "topic. I'd get a few people. Yes. A few"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "people know if it was about CL and it"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "started because for three years I've"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "been writing about climate change."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Nothing. Then all of a sudden, now"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "listen, you know, also there there's a"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "book called uh agents of h what is it"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "called? Oh, it's a book that was written"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "about the oil companies organized. They"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "took a lesson from the the cigarette"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "companies about how to push back against"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "science. If there's some science that is"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "going to hurt your bottom line, here's"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "what you do. Right? So, but again, my my"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "point really here is right the politics"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "is a mess. I completely agree. The"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "politics is a mess. But the point about"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the established science there is what so"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "what happened the reason I'm telling"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "this story is what happened after 2005"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "you started to have the same group of"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "scientist there's like eight scientists"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "whose name would come up Willie soon the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "guy from MIT over and over again because"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "that's all there was if you went to a"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "meeting of the American Geological"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Society where like one of the places"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "climate science gets discussed and"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "there's 2,000 people in this giant"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "hallway you know find somebody there who"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "doesn't believe in science call up you"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "know randomly 10 geology departments and"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "say, \"Is there anybody in there who"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "doesn't believe in climate science?\" You"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "won't find anybody."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> Well, that's a that's a a broad way of"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "putting it. Is there anyone who doesn't"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "believe in climate science? I"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> scientists scientists who work in the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "field."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> I I I don't think that they don't"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "believe in climate science. I think they"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "would argue that the CO2 is the primary"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "cause of climate change"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> like"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> basic basic planetary science."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> Well, even on the I heard that on the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "IPCC website or whatever, they were"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "saying that like water vapor and clouds"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "contribute more to the warming of the"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "planet's surface temperature than actual"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "CO2. That's true. See, this is that and"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "so it's a great point to bring up,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "right? Climate science, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "really and this is what drives me crazy"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "when like, you know, I have to argue"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "with people about, you know, people who"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "are like really seriously into denial."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "It's like they'll say things to me and"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "I'm and they're taking these stride"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "positions like, you know, you're very"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "open. You're like interested in the"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "science, everything. And it becomes"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "really clear that like a these people"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "don't know what they're talking about."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Like they're really they make these"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "claims that are like, \"Wow, man, you can"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "read a freshman textbook and have that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "question answered.\" But they're not"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "interested in the science. They've got"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "some political point of view. You know,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "I see this happening on the left and the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "right. And what they really care about"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "is their political point of view. And"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "like I'm a scientist, they care about"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "winning. I'm a scientist. All I care"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "about is the science. And so that"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "question, so you bring up a really good"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "question. Water vapor and other things."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "It's true. Water vapor is actually the,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "you know, by far has the most climate"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "changing effect. But you have to do, you"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "have to like study climate. And what you"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "see is like, yeah, but water vapor"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "cycles, right? Water vapor is constantly"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "cycling in and cycling out. So the net"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "level of water vapor always stays the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "same, right? There hasn't been any"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "changes. There hasn't been any nothing"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "we're doing is really going to change"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "dramatically the amount of water vapor"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "in the air. So there's nothing happening"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "with water vapor that is going to lead"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "to climate change. CO2 is increasing"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "because of what we're doing. So it's not"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "going to and it it cycles on much longer"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "time scales. You put CO2 into the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "atmosphere,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> it takes a lot longer for it to come"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "out. One of the major"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "Charlie Rell uh who I was talking about"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "the guy got you know the 19 one of the"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "things he really discovered people"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "thought like oh the ocean will absorb it"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "all the ocean will absorb the CO2 and"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "what he realized what he showed through"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "like painstaking experiments is that"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "actually the oceans the ocean will stop"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the ocean can only absorb sum so much"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "CO2 so that's the difference like you"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "bring up a really good point but to"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "answer that point you got to go in and"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "you know like take the freshman class"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "actually probably need to take the"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "senior class you before like one of"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "these guys stands up and says climate"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "change is a hoax because of water vapor."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "You know, it's like no, if you do this,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "you know, if you actually just put the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "time into learning it, you'll see that"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "question's totally been answered."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> You know, if you enjoy watching our show"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "on Spotify or YouTube and you want to be"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "more involved, I encourage you to please"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "come check out our Patreon community."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Not only does our Patreon community get"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "every episode you see on YouTube early,"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "fully uncensored, and adree, but we're"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "also doing Patreon exclusive episodes,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "as well as live Q&As's, and you can get"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "your personal questions answered by our"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "guests every single week. 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An"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "encounter so bizarre that the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Smithsonian has spent a century burying"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the data in the back of their archives."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "In this episode, I'm diving into the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Smithsonian's most forbidden secret"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "about Greenland, the forensic evidence"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "of a predator that defies physics, and"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "the reason why the world's most elite"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "hunters are afraid. You won't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "miss this one. 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So if an elder told him"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "about a sea goddess who would drown bad"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "hunters, he would write it down as a"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "fascinating look into their psychology,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "not exactly as a warning about, you"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "know, a real threat. He was very much"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "into what he could actually measure and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "touch and what he could prove"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "physically. So on one particularly cold"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "night in late 1884, he was sitting"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "inside a small stone and saw hut with a"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "group of Inuit hunters. And outside the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "wind had died down and the arctic quiet"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "had fully set in. And if you've never"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "been to a place like that, the silence"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "is deafening. The snow absorbs all the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "sound. So it's not just quiet. It's like"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "the world around you has been put on"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "mute. Bose was reviewing his notes,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "feeling safe and secure in his little"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "scientific understanding of the world."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "And he had no idea that something would"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "change. And suddenly the silence of the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "night was broken by a sound coming from"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "just outside the thick walls of the hut."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "It was the sled dogs. The Inuit used a"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "specific breed often called the Canadian"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Eskimo dog. And these animals are not"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "like your golden retrievers back home."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "They're massive, powerful working"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "animals that are bred to pull heavy"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "sleds for days without eating and to"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "survive in temperatures that would kill"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "people in minutes. They're extremely"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "protective. They will charge at a polar"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "bear if they have to. They charge. They"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "bark. They snap. They surround"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "predators. They are the settlement's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "first line of defense. So, when Boas"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "heard the dogs, he assumed that a bear"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "or a wolfpack had wondered too close to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "the camp. And he expected to hear that"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "deep, aggressive, rhythmic barking that"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "signaled a fight was about to start. But"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "that's not what he had heard. Instead,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "he heard absolute panic. The dogs"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "weren't barking. They were whimpering"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "and he could hear the heavy thud of"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "their bodies slamming against the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "exterior walls of the hut and the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "frantic scratching of their claws"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "against the frozen ground. These"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "hardened tough animals were terrified"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and they were trying to break their"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "leads to get inside the structures with"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the people. And so he stopped writing"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "and he looked up at the elder he was"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "interviewing, which was a man who had"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "lived on the ice his entire life. and he"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "expected the elder to grab a spear or a"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "harpoon and head outside to chase off a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "bear, but he didn't move. He sat there"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "staring at the entrance to the hut, his"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "face completely drained of color. And he"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "asked him, you know, is it a bear? But"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the elder shook his head and he"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "whispered, \"A bear makes them angry.\""}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "This makes them silent. And sure enough,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "as quickly as the commotion had started,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "it stopped. The whimpering ceased, the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "scratching had stopped, and it was"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "completely quiet outside, which felt"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "infinitely worse. But then the noise"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "boas stood up. He was a man of action,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "and he wanted to know what the heck was"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "going on, so he moved toward the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "entrance of the hut. Now, traditional"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Inuit winter homes often had a long, low"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "tunnel leading into the main living"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "area. This design trapped the cold air"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "in the tunnel, so the living space"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "stayed warm. To enter, you had to get on"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "your hands and knees and crawl through"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "this dark, narrow passage. And Boas was"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "just about to lean down to check the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "tunnel when he heard a frantic"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "scrambling sound coming from inside of"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "it. Somebody was crawling through that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "tunnel, moving so fast they were"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "practically throwing themselves against"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "the sides of the passage. And a split"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "second later, the skin flap covering the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "inner door was ripped aside, and a man"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "tumbled into the room, collapsing onto"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the fur covered floor. Boaz recognized"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "him immediately. It was a local hunter,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "a man known as Alua. Now, he knew him"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "well. He was one of the most skilled"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "hunters in the settlement. He was"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "strong, he was rational, and he was very"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "familiar with the landscape. He had gone"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "out earlier that day to check his seal"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "breathing holes on the ice. But the man"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "lying on the floor did not look like a"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "skilled hunter. He looked like a man who"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "had seen the devil. And he was gasping"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "for air. His chest was heaving so hard"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "it looked like his ribs were going to"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "snap. and his park was covered in snow"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "as if he had fallen multiple times and"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "just kept running. But the most"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "disturbing aspect was the look in his"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "eyes. He wasn't looking at Boas. He was"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "looking at the elder. He had rolled over"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "onto his back and he was staring wildly"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "at the skin flap of the door he had just"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "come through, kicking his legs as if he"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "was trying to push himself backward away"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "from the entrance. So Bose rushed over,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "grabbed Aloa by the shoulders, trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "calm him down, just trying to get a"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "report on what happened. And he began"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "asking him like, \"Are you hurt? Did you"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "fall through the ice? Like, what"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "happened?\" But he couldn't answer"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "because right then his body went rigid."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "His back arched off the floor and his"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "jaw clamped shut and he began to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "convulse violently. This wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "shivering from the cold. It was a"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "fullblown seizure. His eyes rolled back"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "into his skull and he began to foam at"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "the mouth. And Bois, the scientist, he"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "switched into diagnostic mode. He had"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "seen men freeze before and he had seen"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "men starve. But he had never seen a"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "hardened Arctic hunter reduced to a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "trembling, seizing wreck just by walking"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "through a door. And he knew that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "whatever was out there in the dark"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "hadn't touched him. As Alooa thrashed on"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "the floor, Bose did his best to hold the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "man's head steady so he wouldn't injure"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "himself against the hard earth. The"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "elder meanwhile had retreated to the far"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "wall of the hut. He wasn't helping. He"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "was chanting this low rhythmic murmur"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "that sounded less like a prayer and more"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "like a plea for protection. Bois,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "however, was not chanting. He was"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "analyzing. His mind was running through"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "a checklist of medical conditions that"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "were common in the high Arctic and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "immediately he landed on a diagnosis. He"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "believed Aloa was suffering from a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "condition known more commonly as Pb"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "blocktoalk or Arctic hysteria. And this"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "was a very real documented medical"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "phenomenon that boas and other explorers"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "had observed in Inuit communities during"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "the winter. and they believed it was"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "caused by a combination of extreme"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "isolation, the endless darkness of the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "polar night, and possibly even a vitamin"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "A toxicity from a diet heavy in sea"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "liver. The symptoms included"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "uncontrolled screaming, seizures, and a"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "sudden irrational desire to flee into"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "the cold. Now to Boaz, this was the only"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "logical explanation because he had seen"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "it before and he knew that if A pointed"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "to B, then B pointed to C, right? Aloa"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "had simply been out on the ice too long"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "and the darkness had gotten to him. His"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "mind had just snapped. And so after"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "several tense minutes, the seizure"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "stopped. Aloa went limp, his breathing"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "slowed, and his eyes focused. He looked"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "up at Boaz and the sheer terror in his"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "expression hadn't faded one bit. So Boaz"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "helped him sit up, offered him some"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "water, and he spoke to him very calmly"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "in the local dialect, asking him what"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "had brought on the attack. He expected"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Alua to talk about the cold or maybe a"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "hallucination brought on by the"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "hysteria. But Aloa grabbed Boa's arm and"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "his grip was very tight. And he told him"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "he hadn't fallen ill, that he had"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "actually been hunted. And he explained"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "that he had just simply been checking"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "his seal holes about 2 mi away from the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "settlement. And this was a routine trip."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "It was a path he had been on a thousand"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "plus times. And as he was heading back,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "he realized that he wasn't alone. He"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "heard something behind him. And it"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "wasn't the crunching steps of a bear or"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "it wasn't, you know, a fox, but it"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "sounded very heavy and was moving over"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "the snow, but it wasn't breaking the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "crust. And he explained to Boas that he"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "had turned around, raising his lantern"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "to see what was stalking him. And at the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "edge of the light, he described a great"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "black dog. Now, of course, right away,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Bose was so skeptical, and he knew the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "fauna of Baffan Island better than"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "nearly any westerner alive. There were"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "no black dogs here. And even the wolves"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "in the Arctic were white or light gray."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "And so realistically, just the concept"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "or idea of a black wolf being out here"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "was just I mean it would stick out like"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "a sore thumb. It didn't make any sense."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "So Bo was like, \"Look, you just you must"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "have seen a shadow. You know, maybe it"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "was a trick of the light against a"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "rock.\" But Alua insisted. He cut him off"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "and he's like, \"No, it wasn't a shadow."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "This was bigger, more massive than any"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "sled dog I've ever seen. It was jet"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "black. And then he added a detail that"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "really hit home with Boaz. And he said"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "that this thing had no hair. And he"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "explained to him that it was naked. Its"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "skin was like thick and black and"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "leathery, completely exposed to the cold"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "freezing air. So, you know, when Bo has"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "heard this,"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "his scientific brain just immediately"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "began pivoting and he's thinking like,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "okay, if if this is really what it is,"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "then he's solved the mystery. In his"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "mind, Alua hadn't seen a monster. He had"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "seen a wolf suffering from severe"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "sarcoptic mange. Now, mange is a"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "parasitic skin disease that causes"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "animals to lose their fur. It makes"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "their skin turn dark, thick, and scabby."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "And an animal with advanced mange looks"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "horrific. It looks like a monster. And"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "more importantly, the disease drives"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "animals mad. It makes them aggressive"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "and fearless and desperate. I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "made perfect sense to Bois. He's like,"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "\"That's exactly what it was. A sick"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "dying wolf had wondered near the hunter."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "The hunter who was already on edge from"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "the dark saw this hairless black ugly"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "thing and his superstitious mind just"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "turned it into a spirit or a creature."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "And the fear obviously triggered the"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "seizure. Case closed. He figured it out."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "But Bose looked at the elder and then"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "back at Alua and he tried to explain"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "this theory to them and he told them"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "this. Look, this is a sick animal. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "a mangy wolf and it was probably"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "freezing to death right now because it"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "had no fur. And there was nothing"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "supernatural about it. But the elder"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "looked at Boas with this mix of pity and"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "fear and he explained he's wrong. He"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "said, \"A sick wolf would leave tracks."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "It would shiver. This thing did not"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "shiver, did not leave footprints.\" And"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "he continued to argue because he's like,"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "\"Look, if this animal exists in the way"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that you're saying it does, it's going"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "to leave tracks. If an animal walks on"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "snow, it leaves a mark.\" So, he's like,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "\"You know what? I I'm not going to argue"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "about spirits. He's going to prove it.\""}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "So, he stood up. He grabbed his heavy"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "fur coat. He picked up his rifle and he"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "told Olua and the elder that he was"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "going to go outside, backtrack Aua's"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "trail and find this wolf. He would shoot"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "it if he had to or at the very least he"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "would find its prince and prove that it"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "was just a flesh and blood animal. But"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "the elder begged him not to go. He was"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "like, \"Don't be foolish. Don't die.\" He"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "said that seeing this thing was what"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "caused the sickness and if Boas went out"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "there, he might not come back. But Boas"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "ignored him. He lit his lantern. He"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "checked the action on his rifle and he"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "crawled out through the tunnel into the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "freezing black night. And as France Boas"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "stood up outside the hut, the first"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "thing that hit him was the cold. It was"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "a physical weight pressing against his"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "lungs every time he inhaled, and the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "moisture in his nose froze instantly,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "making his nostrils stick together with"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "every breath. He raised his lantern, and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "the yellow light spilled out onto the"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "snow. illuminating a small circle around"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "him. And beyond that, there was nothing"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "but the crushing infinite blackness of"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the Arctic night. As he walked, he"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "looked over at the sled dogs, and"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "usually they would be curled up in the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "snow, sleeping or pacing around their"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "leads. But tonight, they were huddled"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "together in a tight mass against the"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "wall of the hut, shivering. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "even look at Boas. Their eyes were fixed"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "on the darkness beyond the settlement."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Boas gripped his rifle tighter and he"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "turned away from the dogs and he began"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "to walk toward the edge of the camp"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "looking for the trail that Alua had made"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "when he came running in. It didn't take"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "long to find it. The snow in the Arctic"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "is often hard packed by the wind. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "almost like concrete, but there had been"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "a light dusting of fresh powder earlier"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "that day. And in that powder, Aloo"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "tracks were clear. He could see exactly"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "where the hunter had come from. The"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "footprints were spaced far enough apart,"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "indicating a full sprint. And in several"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "places, the snow was churned up and"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "disturbed where Lua had clearly tripped,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "fallen, and scrambled back to his feet"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "in a state of panic. It was a trail of"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "pure desperation. Boaz followed these"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "tracks away from the safety of the huts,"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "moving about 50 or 60 yards out to the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "open tundra. He wanted to get far enough"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "away that the trampled snow of the"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "village would not interfere with this"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "investigation. He stopped. He held the"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "lantern high and he looked down at the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "snow running parallel to a Louiswis"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "tracks. He was looking for paw prints"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "because if a Louiswis story was true,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "even the rational version of it, there"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "had to be a wolf. A large predator"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "stalking a man would be running"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "alongside him or right behind him. And a"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "wolf of that size, especially one that"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "was sick and stumbling with mange, would"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "obviously leave deep, messy tracks. And"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "so Boas scanned the left side of the"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "trail, but it was pristine and unbroken."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "He stepped over the tracks and scanned"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "the right side. Nothing. Smooth white"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "surface of wind swept ice. He frowned."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "He walked further down the trail,"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "thinking that maybe the wolf had broken"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "off the chase. So he went another"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "hundred yards into the dark and he"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "checked every angle. He circled around"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "and there's nothing. And he's trying to"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "figure out how is this possible. Well,"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "okay. You know, the wind out here is"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "constant. It does move the snow like"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "sand in a desert. So, the wind must have"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "blown the loose powder over the wolf's"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "tracks, erasing them. But then he looked"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "back at a Louiswis tracks and they were"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "crisp. They were sharp. The edges of the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "bootprints hadn't even been eroded. The"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "wind was strong enough to erase the"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "heavy paw prints of a giant wolf. It"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "would have erased a man's footprints,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "too. You can't have it both ways."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "Physics doesn't work like that. So, how"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "is it that a man was chased by something"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "close enough to see its skin and close"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "enough to hear it, yet it had not"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "touched the ground? And as he's thinking"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "about this, he heard the crunch of snow"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "behind him. And so, he spun around"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "bringing his rifle up, and he's very"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "much on edge. But he didn't see a"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "monster. It was the elder from the hut."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "The old man had crawled out and followed"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Boaz wrapped in heavy furs. And he stood"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "there at the edge of the lantern light"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "looking at Boas and then looking down at"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "the empty snow next to the hunter's"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "tracks. And the elder explained, \"I told"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "you so.\" And he pointed at the empty"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "space where the wolf tracks should have"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "been. And he said to Boas, he's like,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "\"Look, you are looking for the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "footprints of a beast, but you will not"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "find them.\" So Boas lowered his rifle"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "and he's asking, \"Why is this a spirit?"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Like, does it float?\" But the elder"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "shook his head and he explained that"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "this thing, the thing that Elisa saw, it"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "was not a ghost that floated through the"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "air. This was a living being, a creature"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "that hunted and it killed, but it was"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "built for this specific purpose. He then"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "gave Boas the specific description that"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Boas would later record in his official"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "government report, a detail that"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "connects the biology of this to the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "mystery of the tracks. The elder said,"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "\"The creature is hairless. It is naked"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "to the cold except for one place. It is"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "hair on its feet.\" Boaz just stared at"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "him and the elder continued. He"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "explained that the Keoot, or as the"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "Baffan Island Inuit call it, the Keyarn,"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "was a massive black hairless dog, but"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "its paws were covered in thick,"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "unnatural toughs of fur. It's not for"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "warmth. It was for stealth. The elder"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "explained that the hair on its feet"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "acted like a muffler and a broom. It"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "allowed it to move over the hard, packed"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "snow in total quiet, without the"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "clicking of claws. The fur swept the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "snow as it ran, leaving behind nothing"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "but the wind. It was a predator designed"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "for this. So Boas looked back down at"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "the snow and he realized that Louis"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "description of the hairless dog wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "hallucination of a sick wolf. It was an"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "accurate observation of a specific"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "entity. The lack of tracks wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "weather anomaly. It was its primary"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "trait. And so if there were no tracks,"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "he had no way of knowing where it was."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "right now. I mean, it could be miles"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "away or it could be standing 5 ft"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "outside the ring of his lantern light"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "watching him. And as if on cue, the wind"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "died down. The silence returned and"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "Boaz, remember the man of science, the"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "man of confidence who didn't believe in"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "such things, felt this sudden fear"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "overtake him, and he understood why the"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "dogs were hiding. They weren't hiding"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "from a bear or something they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "fight. Boas didn't say another word. He"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "didn't take a measurement. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "look for any more clues. He turned"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "around, he signaled the elder to go"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "first and they walked quickly back to"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "the safety of the hut. 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France"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "Boaz went on to become one of the most"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "respected scientists in history. He"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "changed the way we understand human"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "culture. But in 1888, when he published"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "his massive, dry scientific volume"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "titled The Central Eskimo, he included"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "this account as a matter of fact. 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It doesn't need fur because it is"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "cold like the dead and it doesn't leave"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "prints because it doesn't want you to"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "know it's following you. However,"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "there's a chilling postcript to France"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Boa's time on Baffan Island that cements"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "this in reality. You see, after that"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "night, he didn't just pack and leave. He"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "stayed and continued working. And"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "according to his later writings, the"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "atmosphere in the settlement had"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "changed. The rational explanation that"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "Aloa had suffered from a seizure from"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "the cold didn't exactly hold water with"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "the people who lived there. They knew"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "what had happened. They believed that"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "the creature was the Keoot. It was an"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "earth spirit. Unlike other spirits in"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "Inuit cosmology that might be tricked or"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "bargained with, the Keoot had only one"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "purpose, to prey on the vulnerable. A"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "harbinger of death that fed on the fear"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "of lone travelers. And this is where the"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "source integrity of this story becomes"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "extremely compelling because France Boaz"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "was not a conspiracy theorist. He is one"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "of the most important academic figures"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "of the 19th and 20th centuries. A man"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "who introduced the scientific method to"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "the study of human culture and demanded"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "proof for everything. But yet when he"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "compiled his massive definitive volume,"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "the central Eskimo in 1888, he didn't"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "edit out the keoot, nor did he relegate"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "it to a silly footnote about"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "superstitions. He included the specific"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "biological details of this creature as a"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "matter of fact. This thing is an ambush"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "predator. It relies on stealth. 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They tell them to travel in pairs"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "and to keep their dogs close and look"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "out for these beings. if they can."}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "Unfortunately, whether the koot is a"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "superstitious entity or maybe it's a"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "real entity or, you know, some sort of"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "actual spiritual entity. Well,"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "unfortunately, we don't know. It's a"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "mystery. And because you guys have made"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "it this far, I want you to all comment"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "down below key loot. So that way I know"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "who made it to the end and who didn't."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "And if you guys enjoy storytelling like"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "this, where we deep dive into strange"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "this. And as always, never forget, I"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "love you all and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "very next episode."}]

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In"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "this episode, I'm diving into the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Kentucky entity that mirrors your soul."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "A 1940s biological abomination that"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "walked through a locked house in"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "England. and the terrifying night that a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "woman discovered her boyfriend was a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "shape shifter. You won't want to miss"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "this one. When Jean was 12 years old, he"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "sat by a campfire in the deep woods"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "nestled along the Cumberland River"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "somewhere between Williamsburg,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Kentucky, and Jelico, Tennessee. It was"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "just after dusk and the fire was"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "crackling and it was moody because they"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "were camping and he was there with his"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "cousins, his uncles, and his father."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Now, his father was a very serious man."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "He had grown up in the hills until he"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "was 15, right before he joined the Army"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Corps to go fight in World War II."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "However, on this particular night, just"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the vibe of everything around the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "campfire felt like one of those cheesy"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "ghost story sessions that counselors do"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "at summer camps to get kids to shut up"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "and go to sleep. So when his dad started"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "talking to them about the malberry black"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "thing, Jean wasn't really listening. You"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "know, he figured this was just another"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "borish attempt to scare them. He was"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "rolling his eyes. He was poking the fire"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "with the stick. But as his dad kept"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "talking, he dropped his voice really"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "low. And Jean began to listen more and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "he realized his dad wasn't performing."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "He was remembering. And pretty soon,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Jean found himself leaning in, hanging"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "on every word. And his dad began to tell"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "them more about a morning from his"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "childhood right in the same wilderness."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "And he had to get up before dawn to hunt"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "squirrels so his family would have meat"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "on the table. And he began to explain to"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Jean and his cousins that on these"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "particular mornings, you have to awake"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "early because once the sun is up, the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "squirrels are too fast. So his dad is at"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the base of this tree. It's very still."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "And his dad is just waiting for any"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "motion. And suddenly he hears this"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "rustling noise. And he looked around,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "but he didn't see anything. Now"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "squirrels can be pretty crafty. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "they will actually pick up pieces of"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "bark off the tree and throw them into"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "the dry leaves away from them to"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "distract a hunter. So his dad was like,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "\"This is what's happening right now.\""}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "and he began scanning the limbs looking"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "for this squirrel, the trickster. But"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "then he heard another rustling. And this"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "time he began to get scared. He looked"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "around. There was no movement in the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "trees. There was nothing on the ground."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "And his dad described to Jane and his"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "cousins that the air suddenly changed."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "He described it as getting very dense,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "very still. And he explained to the kids"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "that it was just like swimming in tomato"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "soup, just heavy and thick. And right as"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "he said that to the group around the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "campfire, the woods around them seemed"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "to go quiet, too. But his dad continued,"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "and he explained that he'd heard stories"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "growing up about the malberry black"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "thing, but that he never paid them much"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "mind because he'd roamed around this"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "area for years and never saw a thing."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "But in that moment, with the air as"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "thick as it was, he felt a chill. And"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "then there was this terrible crashing in"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "the leaves off to his left. And his dad"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "looked at the kids and said, \"I tell"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "you, I was never so scared of my life."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "And I was in Korea when it was a"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Warren.\" And he said he was getting"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "ready to run for his life when he heard"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "this crashing get closer and closer. And"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "then out of the brush came this big"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "black dog. It wasn't a monster. It was"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "just padded up to him. and it sat down"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "and started licking his face. His dad"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "said he was so happy he started crying."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "And he looked at Jean and his cousins"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "and he said, \"So when you go through"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "these hills and when you go through this"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "life, keep good in your heart because"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "you never know what's out yonder.\" Now"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "the kids of course let out this big sigh"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of relief. It was a pretty nice ending."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "And you know, his uncle nodded like he"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "knew exactly what the dad was talking"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "about. 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And before they could even turn"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "around, this huge hairy thing burst out"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "from behind the trees, jumping and going"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "up and down and making these horrible"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "noises. And Gene and his cousin screamed"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "and they scrambled backward, ready to"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "run into the dark. But then Jean looked"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "back at his dad and his dad and his"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "uncles were rolling on the ground"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "laughing so hard they were crying. It"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "turned out that one of the uncles had"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "slipped off into the woods during the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "story, covered himself in mud and leaves"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and jumped out to scare them. It was a"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "prank. The whole thing, the story, the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "lesson, it was just a setup for a joke."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "And so for the next 30 years, this is"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "exactly how Gan viewed the legend of the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Malberry Black thing. It was nothing"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "more than a tall tale. But if he had"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "actually looked into the oral histories"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "of the Popular Creek and the Mossy Gap"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "areas, he would have found that his"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "father wasn't entirely lying. Because"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "according to local folklore archives"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "from Whitley County, the legend of the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Malberry black thing dates back"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "generations. You see, many people in"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "those Serena callers didn't know how to"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "read or write back then, so spoken word"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "was cherished. They couldn't tell you"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "the source of the information, but they"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "knew what they'd heard. And what they'd"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "heard was that the malberry black thing"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "wasn't an animal. It was described as an"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "amorphous collection of psychic energy"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "that acts as a prism. It reflects the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "person who encounters it. And there are"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "accounts of hunters who in the 1930s who"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "went into those woods with evil in their"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "souls. Men looking to kill for sport or"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "out of cruelty. And the records state"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "that these men were mauled by a massive"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "black bear that charged through the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "woods. But no bear tracks were ever"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "found. Now, conversely, there are"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "stories of travelers whose cars broke"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "down on those isolated roads. desperate"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "and afraid they would walk into the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "woods and find puddles of oil, just"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "enough to put in their engine. Although,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "now that I think about it, I've never"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "once been in that situation, looked at a"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "puddle of oil on the ground and thought,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "\"I'm going to collect that and put it in"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "my car.\" But I digress, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Apparently, I guess if these people are"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "desperate enough, they did so and it"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "acted like a mechanical elixir. The car"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "would start and carry them just far"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "enough to get help. And then the form"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "changed. you had a kitten, a panther, a"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "bear. Two things were always consistent"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "in the reports, no matter what people"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "saw. It was always black and it was"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "always preceded by the air turning into"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "what we described earlier, tomato soup."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "I mean, obviously not literally, but"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "just very thick. But Jean, of course,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "didn't care about any of that because at"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "this point in his life, you know, he's"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "about 40 years old. He's very skeptical."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "And decades after that campfire prank,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "he actually found himself back in the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "same area of wilderness. And at this"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "time, it was the end of July, and he had"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "just buried his grandfather in their"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "family graveyard, which was nestled at"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "top one of the mountains that form"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Malberry Holler. His father was already"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "buried there. So after the funeral"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "filled with a very heavy dull grief that"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "comes after saying goodbye, he decided"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "to go back to the old house where his"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "father was born. Now the house itself"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "had long burned down, but the foundation"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "was still there deep in the hauler. He"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "drove his car as far as he could, but"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "the road up into the hauler was"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "completely overgrown. So he parked, got"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "out, and he started walking. Now on this"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "day, it was very hot. It was humid. It"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "was sticky and he walked for a good mile"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "through bramble and thickets just"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "sweating. And as he was thinking about"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "his grandfather, he began to notice that"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the air changed. It didn't get hotter"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "necessarily, but it became oppressively"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "still and denser, kind of like standing"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "at the bottom of a deep pond. And so he"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "immediately stopped walking and he wiped"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "the sweat from his forehead and he's"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "just trying to catch his breath. And"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "even though it was 90° out, he just felt"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "this cold chill around him. It was very"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "odd. And he immediately started to try"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "to rationalize things because none of"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "this made sense. And he's convinced that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "he's severely dehydrated. The woods"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "around him, which had been buzzing with"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "cicas and birds, all of a sudden went"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "quiet. And he got the feeling that he"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "was being watched. And so he quickly"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "scanned the trees, but he couldn't see"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "anything. And so he turned behind him"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "and there was nothing. And then he"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "noticed a puddle of black near his left"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "which caught his eye and he looked down"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and sitting in a coil less than 2 ft"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "from his leg was the biggest blackest"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "snake he had ever seen. It was huge and"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "it scales were absorbing the sunlight"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "like a void. And Jean froze. He began to"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "panic and he thought about all the"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "hunters who had been mowled and he"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "thought about the evil in their souls."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "And he stood there terrified that this"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "snake was going to strike him. But it"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "didn't strike. It slowly, smoothly"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "unwound itself. And it didn't make a"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "sound as it moved. It slithered off to"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "the left around through the brush. And"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "then it stopped and seemed to wait. And"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "so he looked over to the left, following"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "the path. And there, in a spot where no"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "water was, he saw it. For the first time"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "in all the years he had been coming up"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "here, for all the times he had hiked"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "this area with his father, he saw an"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "actual pond. And it wasn't muddy water"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "like the creeks nearby. It was a"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "glorious body of water. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "looked like an actual pool of liquid"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "obsidian, perfectly black and"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "reflective. The shore was lined with"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "reads that looked like they belonged in"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Memphis, not Kentucky. Once the snake"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "had disappeared, he realized that the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "prank all those years ago hadn't been a"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "lie. It was actually a cover. His father"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "had told him the truth. That the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Mulberry black thing was real. And"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "because he had come to that mountain"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "with love and grief in his heart, it"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "hadn't hurt him. It had shown him"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "something beautiful. Interestingly, Gan"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "is one of hundreds, if not thousands of"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "individuals who have had their own"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "personal experiences, encounters with"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "what many call the Malberry Black thing."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "As far as what it is, is it some sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "spiritual being? Is it some sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "hallucination? Like, we we just we don't"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "know. Unfortunately, none of us know"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "anything about it, and it remains a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "mystery."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "According to the 1975 book, The Powers"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "of Evil by historian and author Richard"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Caendish, there's a documented account"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "from 1940 involving a couple living in"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "rural England. Now, because of the time"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "period and the sensitive nature of the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "event, Caendish refers to the couple"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "only by the pseudonyms Mr. and Mrs."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Smith. Now, in the context of 1940 in"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "England, the country was at war. The"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "blitz was either happening or about to"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "happen. And there were blackouts every"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "night where you had to cover your"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "windows so German bombers couldn't see"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "your lights. Everybody was on edge."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "There was a very real physical fear that"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "at any moment enemy soldiers or spies"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "could just show up on your doorstep. So"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "one evening in 1940, Mr. and Mrs. Smith"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "were sitting in their living room. It"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "was a very quiet night and they probably"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "had the fire going, trying to relax"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "despite everything going on in the world"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "outside. They were chatting about their"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "day and right in the middle of a"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "sentence, Mrs. Smith stopped talking and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "her face went completely slack. Her eyes"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "kind of glazed over like she was looking"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "through the wall rather than at it. Mr."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Smith, who looked confused, waiting for"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "her to finish her thought. And then, in"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "a voice that was very flat and matterof"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "fact, Mrs. Smith just said, \"It will"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "come over the hill when it comes.\" Mr."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Smith just stared at her and he asked"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "her what she was talking about. He asked"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "her what it was, but she blinked. She"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "shook her head and looked at him like he"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "was the crazy one. She had no memory of"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "saying that sentence. She didn't know"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "what hill she was talking about and she"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "didn't know what was coming. Now, Mr."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Smith, being a very rational man living"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "in a high stress time, just figured that"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "she was just losing it, that she was"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "tired and the war was getting to"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "everyone. But over the next three"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "months, Mrs. Smith started to change."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "She became terrified of being in the"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "house after dark. And as soon as the sun"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "went down, she would get extremely"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "nervous. She would double check the"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "locks. She wouldn't go into a room"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "unless the light was already on. And she"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "couldn't explain why she was scared. She"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "just had this overwhelming feeling that"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "something was going to happen. Terrible"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "was going to happen. But, you know, Mr."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Smith. He tried to be supportive, but"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "again, all of her issues, he just"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "chocked it up to war. Everybody was"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "scared of the dark in 1940 because the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "dark meant air raids. And so then came"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "the night 3 months later. So it was in"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "the middle of the night. The house was"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "pitch black and both Mrs. and Mr. Smith"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "were asleep in the bedroom on the second"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "floor. Now, all of a sudden, Mrs. Smith"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "woke up. She sat bolt up right in her"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "bed and she shook her husband awake and"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "you know Mr. Smith kind of groggly woke"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "up and asked what was wrong but she just"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "put a hand over his mouth and whispered"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "she heard something. Now Mr. Smith lay"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "there in the dark listening and at first"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "it was just the quiet of the house. But"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "then they heard something downstairs and"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "they recognized what it was. The front"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "door latch clicked and then they could"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "hear the hinges creek as the heavy front"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "door swung open. Now, Mr. Smith froze"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "when he heard this because he knew he"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "had locked that door and he checked it"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "every single night. Bam! The front door"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "slammed shut and now they're both fully"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "awake, completely terrified that"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "somebody is now in their home. and his"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "mind went to the worst possible thing"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "that this was a home invasion. It was a"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "looter or a soldier who had deserted or"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "worse, an enemy agent. Very slowly, he"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "started to get out of bed, find a weapon"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "or something to defend them with. But"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "then they heard footsteps that were on"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "the stairs. And what's terrifying is"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "that these weren't fast, quiet footsteps"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "like a thief trying to be sneaky. These"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "were heavy, wet, deliberate steps. Bum,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "bum, bum. And it sounded like heavy"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "military boots that were soaked in mud"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "and rain just slapping against the wood"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "of the stairs. Whoever this intruder"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "was, wasn't trying to hide or conceal"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "themselves. They were coming straight up"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "to the bedroom. And so both, shaking"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "violently, realized they did not have"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "time to get up. The footsteps were"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "already at the top of the landing. And"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "they listened as the heavy wet tread"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "moved down the hallway. and it stopped"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "right outside their door. And for a few"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "seconds, there was total silence. Mr."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "Smith was staring at the dark outline of"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "the bedroom door, waiting for it to be"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "kicked in. And he was waiting for a"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "flashlight beam or, you know, the barrel"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "of a rifle. And then the door handle"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "slowly turned and it swung open. and all"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "they could do was brace themselves to"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "fight for their life against a man with"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "a rifle or some sort of weapon, figuring"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "that they were about to be looted and"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "possibly killed. But as the door opened"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "and the light from the hallway spilled"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "into the room, his brain just went into"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "overdrive trying to process what it was"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "he was seeing. Because in the doorway"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "was not a soldier. It wasn't a thief."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "And in fact, it wasn't even a human"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "being. Standing in the doorway was what"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "it can only be described as a biological"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "abomination. According to the account in"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Caendish's book, it was bloated and"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "naked. Its skin wasn't a normal color."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "It was blotched with sick patches of"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "green, purple, and yellow, like a piece"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "of fruit that had been rotting in the"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "sun. It had a thick bull-like neck that"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "transitioned into a head that was shaped"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "strangely, and it almost came to a sharp"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "point at the top. But the most"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "disturbing detail was its ears. They"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "were long, fleshy earlobes that drooped"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "all the way down and touched its"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "shoulders. And so when Mr. Smith looked"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "down at the feet that had made the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "heavy, wet sound in the stairs, he saw"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "why. It had these massive webbed feet."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Now, obviously upon seeing this thing,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "both of them were paralyzed with fear."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "They were so overcome they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "scream. They just clung to each other"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "staring at this creature, science"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "experiment, whatever you want to call"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "it. And they watched in horror as it"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "stepped into the room. It didn't run at"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "them. It didn't scream or try to attack"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "them. It waddled with this grotesque,"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "heavy shifting of weight like it was too"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "heavy for its own legs. and it walked"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "right past the foot of their bed. It"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "didn't look at them. It ignored the two"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "and it waddled straight across the room"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "toward the window on the far side. Mr."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "Smith watched, his head turning as it"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "passed, waiting for it to turn and"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "attack. But this thing just kept going"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "until it reached the window. And right"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "in front of their eyes, it didn't jump"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "out. It didn't open the window. It"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "dissolved and it vanished. One second it"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "was solid, wet, heavy. It was standing"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "there and the next it had just"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "evaporated. Mr. Smith jumped up, ran to"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "the window. It was still latched from"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "the inside. He ran to the hallway empty."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "And so he ran downstairs and the front"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "door was closed and locked just as he"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "had left it. And there was no mud on the"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "stairs. There was no water. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "to make things even stranger and to make"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "him feel crazy, there was no physical"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "trace that anything had been in the"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "house. But both Mr. and Mrs. Smith kept"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "talking and over with each other, making"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "sure they weren't crazy. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "hallucinate. They both saw the same"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "thing. They had the same experience. In"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "the powers of evil, Richard Cavendish"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "includes a direct quote from Mrs. Smith"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "about that night, and she said this. It"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "was horrible and the absolute essence of"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "evil. I have never experienced anything"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "so dreadful before or since, and I hope"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "I never shall, God willing. I still"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "experience the same horror when I talk"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "about it or write about it as I am doing"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "now. I have never been able to discover"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "why I saw it and I've never been able to"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "find out what it was. The Smiths never"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "had another encounter like that again."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "It climbed the hill, entered their home,"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "and left exactly as predicted."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "Around 2010, a single mother named Kelly"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "was living a quiet, stable life in the"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "American Midwest. According to a witness"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "report she later filed regarding the"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "events of the story, Kelly was the type"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "of person who didn't take risks. She had"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "a great job. She had a solid group of"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "friends. And her entire world revolved"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "around protecting her very young son."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "But through her friend group, she met a"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "guy named Sam. And Samuel was basically"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "the opposite of safe. In fact, he had a"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "reputation around town as being a bit of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "a player. He was extremely charming,"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "very good-looking. When Sam wanted to"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "come over late at night, he would take a"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "taxi. He would walk around to the"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "sideyard, tap on her bedroom window, and"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "she would let him in directly from the"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "outside. And so one night in late fall,"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "Kelly had gone to bed early. But around"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "midnight, she was woken up by that"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "familiar tapping sound on the glass. And"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "so she sat up, she was groggy, and she"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "looked at the window, and the curtains"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "were open, and she could see Sam"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "standing outside in the yard. and he"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "looked a little unsteady, like maybe he"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "had a few too many drinks, but he was"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "smiling. And so, you know, she thought"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "about it and she hesitated for a second"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "because it was late and she was tired,"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "but she figured, you know what, he made"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "the trip all the way out here. She might"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "as well let him in. So, she got out of"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "bed, walked over to the window, and slid"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "it open. And as she helped Sam climb"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "over the still and into the room, she"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "grabbed his arm to steady him. And"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "immediately, she noticed something was"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "off. His skin was freezing and it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "just cold, it was like ice cold. Now, it"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "was chilly outside, so she assumed that"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "he hadn't worn a thick enough jacket."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "And she figured that he was just cold"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "from standing in the yard. So, she"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "dismissed it outright, closed the"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "window, and they went over to the bed."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "But because Kelly hadn't closed the"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "curtains, the room was still filled with"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "this very bright, pale moonlight. It was"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "the only light in the room, actually."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "And as they laid in bed together, Kelly"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "was looking up at Sam's face, admiring"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "all of his features that she found"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "attractive. But then she noticed his"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "expression change. His face went slack,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "the smile dropped, and his eyelids"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "started to droop really heavily. And"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "she's like, \"Is the alcohol hitting him?"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "Like, what's going on?\" She figured he"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "was about to pass out. And then his eyes"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "didn't just droop, they started to"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "change. and she watched the corners of"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "his eyes seemed to stretch outward and"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "it looked like the skin around his"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "sockets was being pulled back by"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "invisible wires. And then the eyes"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "themselves started to move, not looking"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "left or right, but physically sliding"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "across his face, moving further apart"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "toward his temples. Kelly began to panic"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "because she's like, \"Oh my gosh, he's"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "having a stroke. What am I going to do?\""}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "And so she sat up. She leaned in closer,"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "putting her face just inches from his,"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "and she's trying to see if his pupils"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "were dilated, like, you know, should she"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "call 911? This is really serious. But as"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "she stared at him, the medical"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "explanation just went out the window."}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Sam's nose, which was normally straight"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "and defined, began to collapse, and it"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "flattened out against his face. And then"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "the bridge of his nose started to"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "elongate and push outward. and his jaw"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "unhinged and widened, stretching into"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "this large mouth. And then his lips"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "begin to shrink and recede until they"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "were razor thin. Kelly, who's watching"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "this in real time, was just completely"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "paralyzed. She's trying to rationalize"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "how this is even possible. This has to"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "be a trick of the moonlight. Like, this"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "doesn't happen. This is crazy. And then"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "his thick, dark hair, the things she had"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "liked about him most, began to move. And"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "it wasn't falling out. It was being"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "sucked back into his skull like a"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "time-lapse video of a plant withering,"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "retreating into the soil. And within"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "seconds, his hair was gone and his scalp"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "was bald. But it wasn't skin anymore. In"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "the moonlight, she could see a pattern"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "emerging on his face and neck. It looked"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "like a mosaic of a small interlocking"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "plates. They were shimmering with this"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "dull multicolored sheen. Her brain could"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "simply not process the visual"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "information. She needed to know if this"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "was real. She needed to know if she was"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "really hallucinating. So completely"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "overtaken by panic, she reached out her"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "hand. She still thought that on some"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "level she was tending to a sick person."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "So she went to check his temperature and"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "she placed her palm against his cheek."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "And that was the moment that she came"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "back to reality because what she was"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "feeling was not human skin. It was hard."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "It was pebbled and rough. And it was"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "cold. Kelly immediately pulled her hand"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "back like as if she had been burned. And"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "she stared at the thing lying in her"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "bed. It wasn't Sam. And in fact, in her"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "words, it looked exactly like a"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "velociaptor. It had a snout. It had"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "scales and its eyes were these dark,"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "unblinking slits staring right through"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "her. The entire transformation took"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "maybe 6 seconds. And as Kelly opened her"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "mouth to scream in horror, this thing"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "blinked. And in the time it took for the"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "eyelids to open and close, the snout"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "retracted, the scales smoothed over into"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "his skin again, and the hair pushed back"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "out of the scalp. The eyes slid back"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "into the front of the face, and suddenly"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "Sam was Sam again. He blinked a few"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "times, looking groggy, and he saw Kelly"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "scrambling backward on the bed,"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "hyperventilating, pressing herself"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "against the headboard. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "you know, he looked genuinely confused,"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "like, you know, what what's wrong? What"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "happened? And she just kept asking her,"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "\"Why are you looking at me like that?\""}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "And she had a terrifying realization."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "Whatever had just happened, whether it"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "was loss of control or a slip of the"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "mask, Sam seemed to have no idea that he"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "had just revealed his true face. But"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "Kelly knew she couldn't tell him. Cuz if"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "she was like, \"You just turned into a"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "reptilian lizard.\" He would think she"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "was crazy or worse. If he did know and"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "she acknowledged it, well, she might be"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "in danger. So, she lied to him. She told"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "him she suddenly felt incredibly sick"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "and that she was going to vomit and she"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "didn't want to be near him. So, Sam, who"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "was still pretty drunk, kind of just"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "shrugged and rolled over. And within"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "minutes, he was snoring. But Kelly"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "didn't sleep. She grabbed a blanket, ran"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "out to the living room, and she spent"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "the entire night sitting on the couch,"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "staring down the hallway at the closed"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "bedroom door. She wasn't guarding"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "herself. She was in fact guarding her"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "son's room. She realized she had let a"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "predator into her home and she had no"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "idea what it was capable of. So the next"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "morning, Sam stumbled out of the bedroom"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "clearly hung over and he asked why she"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "was on the couch. So she made up another"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "excuse about him snoring too loud and"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "she rushed him out of the house and as"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "soon as he was gone, she locked the"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "door. She never let him over again and"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "the relationship fizzled out almost"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "immediately because she refused to be in"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "the same room as him. Now, for years"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "after this, she tried to convince"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "herself that it didn't really happen and"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "that it was just a waking dream. But the"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "experience wasn't just something she"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "saw. I mean, she felt his skin. It was"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "so real and visceral. Well, about 14"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "years goes by and Kelly is at her local"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "grocery store and she's standing in the"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "checkout line when she hears a voice she"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "recognizes. I bet you guys already know"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "where this is going. And she turns"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "around and there's Sam who looked"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "exactly the same. And in fact, he looked"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "almost too good for the amount of time"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "that had passed. He hadn't aged a day."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "And you know, they made awkward small"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "talk for a few minutes. And Sam was"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "charming as always, smiling, that"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "perfect human smile. And so Kelly asked"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "him what he was doing for work these"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "days. And Sam grinned and just told her"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "that he had found his calling. And he"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "said that he was now a professional"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "poker player. Kelly of course nodded and"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "then ended the conversation as fast as"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "she could. But as she walked away to her"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "car, that detail really chilled her"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "because poker is a game of deception."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "It's about maintaining a perfect mask,"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "hiding what you're holding, and bluffing"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "your way through every interaction. Are"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "you guys noticing a connection here?"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "This isn't something that's made up."}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "Like, this is an actual account that"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Kelly is recalling. And as Kelly"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "realized that for Sam, poker wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "a job, folks. It was a lifestyle. He had"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "spent his entire existence bluffing"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "around everyone him into thinking he was"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "a human. And that night in 2010 in the"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "moonlight was the only time, at least to"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "Kelly's knowledge, he'd ever dropped his"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "hand. Now, normally if I had come across"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "this story in isolation, I would say"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "bravo. That was a well-written horror"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "story. But there are too many eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "accounts of people watching others"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "expose their I guess you can call it a"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "costume of sorts where they witness"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "people transforming within like a split"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "second or two. almost identical to how"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "Kelly describes Sam transforming. And"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "they don't transform into a teddy bear."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "They don't transform into something, you"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "know, white and pale. It's always this"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "reptilian looking being that they almost"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "kind of shape back into. And all the"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "other attributes that Sam has almost"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "just go hand in hand with all of these"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "other eyewitness accounts that people"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "describe. It's very strange. And"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "obviously, none of us can prove if it's"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "true or not. It is very fascinating, but"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "unfortunately whether Sam really was a"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "real reptilian shape shifter walking"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "among us and Kelly actually encountered"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "one firsthand, we'll never know the"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "truth. It remains a mystery. And because"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "you guys made it this far, I want you to"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "all comment down below, it's not human."}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "So that way I know who made it to the"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "end and who didn't. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "We're living in an era where the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "official story is falling apart. And if"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "you think the government is only lying"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "about our present, well, you haven't"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "seen what they've done to our past. In"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "this episode, we're going to cover the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Kin Cade cave cover up, an Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "citadel hidden in the Grand Canyon, and"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "the underground Pentagon at Raven Rock"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "that proves the mountains aren't just"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "empty. You won't want to miss this one."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "On the morning of March 12th, 1909, a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "small, dusty newspaper called the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Arizona Gazette ran this very brief"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "blurb in their morning edition. It was"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "really just a few sentences long and it"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "was tucked away in a column where nobody"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "would really notice it. The blurb simply"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "stated that a man named G. 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And he could see"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "that there's what appeared to be tablets"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "carved into the rock, but they weren't"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "in English and they weren't Spanish. And"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "upon looking closer, they were not the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "petroglyphs he had seen from the Hopi or"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "Navajo tribes. These folks were"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "heroglyphics."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "And having worked for the Smithsonian"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "and having seen the cataloges of the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "world, he recognized the style"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "immediately. Folks, what he looked at"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "looked Egyptian. But none of this made"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "sense. I mean, he was in Arizona. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "literally in the Grand Canyon. So, he's"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "like, \"No, this this can't be possible.\""}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "He backed out of there. He went back"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "down the cliff. He got in his boat, and"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "he went straight to Yuma. Now, he didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "tell the newspapers the details. He just"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "said he found something interesting. But"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "then he sent a message to Washington."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "And this is where the story shifts from"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "his solo adventure to a fullblown"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "operation. Because according to the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "records that would be later leaked, the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Smithsonian didn't ignore him. They"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "didn't tell him he was crazy. They"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "responded by sending a team. And several"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "weeks later, he returned to the cave"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "entrance. But this time, he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "alone. He is with a man named Professor"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "S. A. Jordan, who is a leading"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "archaeologist from the Smithsonian along"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "with a team of about 30 or 40 laborers"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "and assistants. With them, they brought"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "tons of gear. They brought generators."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "They brought lights. I mean, they were"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "very well equipped to uh explore this"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "mystery. And so quickly working, they"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "strung up electric cables all along the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "ceiling of the main hallway, which"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "illuminated the space for the first time"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "in what was likely many, many years. And"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "once the lights were on, Professor"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Jordan and Ken Kaid realized that this"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "wasn't a hideout. This was a citadel or"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "an underground city. And in fact, as"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "they got the chance to look around and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "explore more with light, based on the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "number of rooms and the layout,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Professor Jordan estimated that upwards"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "of 50,000 people could have lived"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "comfortably inside this structure or I"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "guess cave, whatever you want to call"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "it. And in fact, they found what they"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "referred to as a massive room they"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "called the dining hall. 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And as they did so, the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "discoveries became much more grim. You"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "see, about 100 ft from the entrance,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "they found a cross hallway that led to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the crypt. And inside the room, there"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "were rows and rows of actual mummies."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "They were wrapped in a bark fabric and"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "covered in clay. But as they were"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "observing the bodies and kind of just"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "looking over them, Kim Kaid made a very"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "interesting observation that there was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "very there was something very specific"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "about these bodies. And upon examining"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "them closer, every single one of them"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "was male. I mean, there was no women."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "There were no children. And based on the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "artifacts that were buried with them,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "things like copper swords, shields,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "these weren't civilians. This was a type"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "of barracks. I mean, these were trained"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "warriors. And after that, they found the"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "shrine. This was a massive chamber"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "located about a mile underground. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "a mile. And in the center of this room,"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "sitting on a stone ledge, was an idol."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Now, King K described it in his notes."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "He said it looked like a man sitting"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "cross-legged with a lotus flower in each"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "hand. The face was carved with a very"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "calm expression and to both Cancer,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "this looked like Buddha. However, the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "carvings around the statue, the symbols"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "on the wall, they folks, they were"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "undeniably Egyptian. 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Now, while they were exploring"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the outer edges of the citadel,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Conincaid found a heavy stone door that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "was sealed shut. But unlike other rooms"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "which were dry and dusty, the air around"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "this one was a little bit different. In"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "fact, Kin Cade wrote that there was a"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "deadly snaky smell coming from the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "cracks in the door. The workers tried to"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "get close to it with their lights, but"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "the air was so thick and foul that their"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "electric lights simply would not"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "penetrate the gloom. And anyone who got"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "too close to the door started to get"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "really dizzy and nauseous and sick. And"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "so, Professor Jordan realizing that this"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "is some very serious chemical protection"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "or that maybe there was a trap that was"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "still very much active after all these"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "years, just immediately ordered his men"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "to back away. And he said, \"Do not open"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "that door.\" So, they just left it sealed"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "and they never found out what was behind"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "would think that a discovery of this"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "magnitude, I mean, we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "potentially a lost civilization,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "advanced metallurgy, mummies in the"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Grand Canyon, this would be the biggest"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "news story of the 20th century. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "there would be a museum wing named after"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Kincaid. So, what gives, right? Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "for a brief moment, it looked like that"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "was going to happen. On April 5th, 1909,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "the Arizona Gazette blew the lid off the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "whole thing. They ran a front page"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "article with the headline, explorations"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "in Grand Canyon. And the sub headline"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "read, \"Remarkable finds indicate ancient"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "people migrated from Orient.\" The"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "article detailed everything. It quoted"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Kim Kaid. It quoted the professor. It"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "described everything they found and they"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "saw in vivid detail from the mummies to"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the tools to the rooms. 11 days later on"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "April 16th, 1909, there was a rival"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "newspaper called the Coco Nino Sun and"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "they ran a short hit piece. They mocked"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "the Gazette story. They basically called"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "it a hoax, a tall tale, that it was"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "simply impossible. It was nothing more"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "than just a way for them to sell"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "newspapers. Now, I don't know if that"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "piece discrediting the original article"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "worked, but for whatever reason, the"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "original story kind of just vanished"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "from the overall news and Kade kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "just vanished, too. I don't mean they"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "physically vanished, but I mean you just"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "didn't really hear about him anymore."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Interestingly, if you go to the"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Smithsonian Institution today or if you"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "write them a letter, which people have"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "done for decades, mind you, and you ask"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "them about GEQincaid or even the 1909"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "expedition, they'll tell you the exact"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "same thing every time. They'll basically"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "say that it never existed. There is no"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "record of anyone named GEQincaid ever"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "working for us. We have no record of a"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "professor SA Jordan. And obviously"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "there's no record of any Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "artifacts in the Grand Canyon. The whole"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "thing was a hoax. It was staged from a"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "fake newspaper article in 1909. And"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "that's it. For them, it's case closed."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "However, folks, it doesn't end there."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "Because if we look at it as a hoax,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "well, where do we even start, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Because just the sheer granularity of"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the Gazette article, you have to"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "understand that hoaxes from that era"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "were usually vague. they were about"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "giants or monsters. And this original"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "article contained very specific"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "architectural details. We're talking"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "about measurements of the rooms,"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "descriptions of the metal urgy that were"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "very consistent with archaeological"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "science that hadn't even been fully"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "developed yet. And then there's the"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "issue of the forbidden zone, which is"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "according to authors like David Hatch or"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "Childris, who investigated this story in"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "the 1990s, right? Because people are"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "also curious about this case. The reason"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "nobody could find the cave today isn't"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "because it doesn't exist. It's because"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "it was erased or covered up. These"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "researchers claim that shortly after the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "1909 article ran, the federal government"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "came in and they completely seized the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "area. And they say that the entrance to"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the cave, that hole in the cliff that's"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "1,400 ft up, was dynamited shut. The"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "rocks were blasted to cover the stairs."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "The traces of the trail were then wiped"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "out. And if you look at a map of the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Grand Canyon today, specifically around"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "this area where he said he was, which is"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "42 mi up river from El Tovar, you'll see"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "something very strange about the names"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "of the rock formations in that specific"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "sector. They aren't named after American"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "presidents or local tribes. They are"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "named the Tower of Rah, the Temple of"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Isis, the Osiris Temple. So, what's up"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "with that, right? The official"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "explanation from the park service is"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "that these were just names chosen by"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "early map makers who liked Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "mythology that it was just a trend in"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "the Victorian era to name things after"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "exotic places. But many believe that"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "those names are actually markers and"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "given not as a tribute but as a label"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "for what is actually buried underneath."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Haha, that's what really lurks beneath,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "right? Jokes aside, that specific area"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "of the canyon is very difficult to get"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "to, and there are no official trails"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "leading to the Isis Temple or the Tower"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "of Raw. And in fact, large sections of"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "that canyon are deemed dangerous terrain"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "and are very, very much so restricted to"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "hikers. It gets even weirder because for"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "decades, people have reported seeing"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "unmarked black helicopters and drones"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "patrolling not just the Grand Canyon,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "but that specific airspace. So, did GEQ"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Kate hallucinate an entire underground"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "city? I mean, was the Arizona Gazette"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "just trying to sell papers, or did"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "somebody walk into a cave in 1909, see"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "something that could potentially rewrite"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "the entire history of the human race,"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "and the most powerful institutions in"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "the world decided that the truth was too"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "dangerous to be let out to the public."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Makes you wonder, doesn't it? According"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "to the few people who've actually tried"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "to hike into that zone have actually"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "been turned back by armed guards. So,"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "what's going on? Maybe it's nothing."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Maybe the Arizona Gazette really made it"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "all up. But, uh, I don't know about you"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "guys, but with everything going on in"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "the world right now, I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "actually say the name of it. But with uh"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "some specific files that were recently"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "released to the public, let's just say"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "that uh trust in any sort of higher"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "governing authority is at an all-time"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "low. But you know what? I'm just"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "presenting you the information. You guys"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "decide what you want to believe."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Unfortunately, we'll probably never know"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "the truth. All of it remains a mystery."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "On the border of Pennsylvania and"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "Maryland, there's a very tiny rural"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "community called Blue Ridge Summit. This"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "is the kind of place that looks like a"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "postcard from the 19th century. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "you got apple orchards, winding country"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "roads, you know, old Victorian houses"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "tucked back into the trees. It's quiet,"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "or at least it's supposed to be. Now,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "for decades, the people living here have"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "talked about a specific legend involving"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "the massive mountain that looms over"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "their town. They call it the mountain"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "hum. Longtime residents claim that if"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "you go outside on a really stagnant,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "quiet night and you stand perfectly"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "still, you could feel this low frequency"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "vibration coming up through the ground."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Now, some people say it sounds like"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "machinery humming deep underground,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "while others describe it more"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "organically. They say it actually sounds"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "like the mountain itself is breathing."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Now, you know, usually when you hear"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "legends about breathing mountains, you"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "kind of assume that it's just the wind"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "catching the valley the wrong way, you"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "know, or I mean, maybe the vibration"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "from distant power lines because it's"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "just it's easy to dismiss, right? Well,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "one of the people who grew up in the"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "area around this mountain is a man named"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "Hal Neil. And Hal knew better to dismiss"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "it because he knew what lived on the"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "other side of the treeine. Howal's house"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "was located right next to a high"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "chainlink fence topped with razor wire."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "And every day he saw armed military"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "police officers patrolling the"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "perimeter. Now to Howl and his"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "neighbors, this was just sight R. They"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "knew it was a government facility, you"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "know, maybe a storage depot or a"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "communications relay. And so they just"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "got used to the armed guards. They got"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "used to the no trespassing signs stamped"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "with a Department of Defense logo. But"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "what Hal and the rest of the town did"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "not realize was that the hum wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "old machinery and site R wasn't simply a"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "storage depot. The mountain was"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "breathing because inside of it, the"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "United States government was hiding a"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "secret city designed to survive the end"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "of the world. And in fact, it happened"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "on one of the most tragic days in"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "American history, September 11th, 2001."}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "To understand what he saw that day and"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "why the mountain hums, we actually have"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "to go all the way back to 1951."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Now, according to a 1949 National"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "Security Council proposal, the United"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "States was terrified of the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Union's brand new and shiny atomic bomb."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "You see, President Harry S. Truman"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "decided that Washington DC was a death"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "trap. If a nuke hit the White House, the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "government would be decapitated. So to"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "try and mitigate this, Truman approved a"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "plan to build an alternate seat of"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "government. A backup America hollowed"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "out of solid rock and they chose Raven"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "Rock Mountain in Blue Ridge Summit"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "because the granite there is incredibly"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "tough. It is called greenstone and it is"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "some of the toughest rock on the eastern"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "seabboard. Now in January of 1951, the"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "federal government used eminent domain"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "to seize 280 acres of this very"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "mountain. They kicked out the farmers"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "who had lived there for generations."}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "They told people in the area to leave"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "and then they brought in heavy"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "machinery. Now, according to"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "construction records from that time,"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "they hired a company called Parson's"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "Brinkerhoff. And these were the guys who"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "built the New York subway tunnels. They"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "brought in blasting crews who worked"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "nonstop 24 hours a day, 7 days a week,"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "just drilling into the face of the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "mountain. Now, if you lived in Blue"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "Ridge Summit in 51, you didn't hear a"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "hum, you heard explosions pretty much"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "nonstop. The crews removed around"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "500,000"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "cubic yards of granite. They boarded"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "five parallel tunnels, each one big"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "enough to drive a semitr through deep"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "into the heart of the mountain. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "initial cost was about 35 million, which"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "in today's money is roughly 350 million."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "So, next time you wonder where your tax"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "dollars are going, well, by 1953, the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "blasting stopped, the dump trucks left,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "and massive 30 ton steel blast doors"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "were installed at the tunnel entrances."}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "And then the doors closed, the trees"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "grew back, and the mountain went silent"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "again. Now, the facility, which was"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "officially cenamed site R, went onto hot"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "standby. It was legally designated as"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "the alternate joint communication"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "center, but the press had a different"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "name for it. A 1954 issue of Life"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "magazine called it the underground"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "Pentagon. However, for the next 20"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "years, nothing happened. The guards"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "stood at the gate. The locals farmed"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "their apples. The mountain just sat"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "there waiting for the next big world"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "war. But that never happened until July"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "of 1976. By the mid70s, the Cold War had"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "cooled off a bit, and the facility was"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "technically staffed 24/7, but it was"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "mostly a skeleton crew of communication"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "specialists and military police. It was"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "boring duty. You were guarding a rock in"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "the middle of nowhere. But on a clear"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "summer night in July of 1976,"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "well, according to a declassified army"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "document that was released via the"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Freedom of Information Act in 2021 by a"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "researcher named John Greenwald, the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "military police at Site R encountered"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "something they were absolutely not"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "trained to handle. You see that night"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "the desk sergeant at Fort Richie which"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "was the nearby army garrison that"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "supported Raven Rock got a frantic call"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "from the site R security post. You had"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "two separate security patrols. These are"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "men who were trained to identify"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "aircraft and threats reported seeing"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "three oblong glowing objects hovering"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "directly over the Raven Rock complex."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "Now you need to understand the context"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "here, right? Because this is not a"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "random field in Nevada. This is the"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "underground Pentagon and it's one of the"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "most heavily guarded restricted"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "airspaces on the planet. So if a Soviet"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "bomber or even, you know, something like"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "a private Cessna flew into this"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "airspace, they would be intercepted or,"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "you know, shot down immediately."}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "However, the reports indicated that"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "these weren't planes. In fact, it stated"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "that the objects were silent and they"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "were not using jet engines. They were"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "hanging there glowing and disturbingly"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "right above the nuclear bunker. And so"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "the desk sergeant got another call, but"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "this time it was from a guard who was"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "stationed near the ammo storage area"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "located just outside the main bunker"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "where the military kept its sensitive"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "munitions. Now, the guard also reported"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "seeing a UFO hovering low over the ammo"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "dump. Now, why would that be? Well, the"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "documents showed that the military took"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "this extremely seriously. They were not"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "laughing about little green men. They"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "were tracking an intrusion of"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "unidentified craft over a continuity of"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "government facility. And then, just as"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "quickly as they arrived, the objects"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "vanished. They didn't shoot at the base."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "They didn't land. they'd just observed"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "and they seem to have left. And like"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "many cases similar to this, the incident"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "was never really explained. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "sure, the army investigated, they filed"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "the reports and then classified them for"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "45 years. And for the locals in Blue"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Ridge Summit, it became just another"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "part of the legend. And as time went on"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "and we got into the 1990s, there was"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "talk from the government about"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "mothballing the whole place just to save"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "money. And by the turn of the millennium"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "in 2000, most people in Washington DC"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "didn't even really know it existed. It"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "was just this cold, damp hole in"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "Pennsylvania. But then came the morning"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "of September 11th, 2001. In Washington,"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "DC, the Secret Service initiated what is"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "called continuity of government or COG."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "Now, this is the playbook that Harry"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Truman wrote all the way back in 1949."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "And the plan was relatively simple and"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "that is to take the most important"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "people in the American government, put"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "them on choppers and hide them deep in"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "the earth. And back in Blue Ridge"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "Summit, Howal Neil, the man I talked"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "about earlier, was standing in his yard."}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "And it was about 11:00 a.m. And like"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "everybody else in the country, they were"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "deeply concerned with what was happening"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "in real time watching all the news when"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "he heard the sound of what he knew were"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "rotors. Now, according to an interview"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "he gave to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "in December of 2001, he watched as five"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "massive military helicopters descended"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "out of the sky. But they didn't land at"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "the main gate of sight R. They landed"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "right near his property at the base of"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "the mountain. Now, moments later, he"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "also saw a convoy of black SUVs with"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "tinted windows tearing up Harbaugh"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "Valley Road. These weren't police. These"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "were federal agents and they were"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "driving pretty aggressively. They blew"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "past the stop signs and they drove right"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "up to the main portal of Raven Rock and"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "then they were gone in the main tunnel."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "At the time, Howal didn't know it, but"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "he was witnessing the activation of the"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "Doomsday machine. According to"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "journalist and historian Garrett Graph,"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "who wrote the definitive book on this"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "subject, one of the passengers in that"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "very convoy was Vice President Dick"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "Cheney. While Bush was on Air Force One,"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "Cheney was brought here to the"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "undisclosed location. Deputy Secretary"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "of Defense Paul Wolawitz was also"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "brought here. And for the first time in"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "history, the underground Pentagon was"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "actually being used as a Pentagon. Now,"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "inside the mountain, the lights came on."}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "The ventilation systems, the source of"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "that hum, kicked into overdrive. But for"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "everybody who lived in the area, the"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "real terror actually started a week"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "later. You see, on September 19th, 2001,"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "the tension in Blue Ridge Summit was"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "already sky-high because they knew the"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "vice president was likely inside the"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "mountain next door. They saw the fighter"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "jets patrolling overhead and then a"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "delivery truck carrying furniture tried"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "to enter the main gate at site R to"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "deliver supplies for the influx of"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "staff. Now, according to many local"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "reports, the truck actually triggered a"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "chemical explosive detector at the gate."}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "The sensors went red, guards drew their"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "weapons, and the base went into a full"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "lockdown. People were terrified that"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "this was going to be the next target,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "but it turned out it was nothing more"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "than a false alarm, just a sensor glitch"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "on a furniture truck. But the"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "psychological damage was already done."}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "And at this point, many of the people in"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "the area realized this wasn't simply a"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "government office. They were living next"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "to target number one in a nuclear war."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "So, what's actually inside the mountain?"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "And why are people reporting a humming"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "noise? Well, for years, the government"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "has refused to comment on any of the"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "specifics, but thanks to the work of"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "investigative journalists and a few slip"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "ups by the Department of Defense, we now"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "know why hears that vibration. To put it"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "simply, the mountain hums because it is"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "keeping 5,000 people alive. The scale of"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Raven Rock is almost impossible to"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "comprehend from the outside. And when"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "you pass through those 30 ton blast"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "doors, which are designed to withstand a"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "direct nuclear impact, you aren't just"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "walking into a dugout cave. According to"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "a layout description published by the"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "Morning Herald back in 1977, the cavern"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "actually contains five separate"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "freestanding threestory buildings. And I"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "mean, they are literally buildings"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "floating on massive industrial springs"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "and shock absorbers. And so the idea"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "here is that if a nuclear bomb hits the"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "mountain, the shock wave will travel"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "through the granite, but the buildings"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "inside will kind of just bounce on the"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "springs, protecting the people and the"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "computers inside from being pulped by"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "the vibration. It is a literal"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "self-contained city and has two massive"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "reservoirs carved into the rock. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "underground lakes labeled the old and"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "new reservoirs. Each holding millions of"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "gallons of drinking water. And it has"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "everything else. A fully stocked bar. It"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "has a chapel. It has a barber shop. It"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "has a medical facility, a fire"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "department, and a massive industrial"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "ventilation system. huge intake fans"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "hidden on the mountain side that suck in"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "fresh air, filter out radiation and"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "biological weapons, and then pump it"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "down into the caverns. And in fact, in"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "2018 alone, the Department of Defense"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "allocated 45 million just for the"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "operating budget of Raven Rock. So this"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "place isn't a relic. It is active and"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "it's ready. And there's even a quote"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "from Garrett Graph that puts this into"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "perspective better than anything else."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "He said this, \"Raven is the place where"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "nuclear war in the United States would"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "begin, which basically means that if"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Washington DC is wiped out, the order to"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "launch our nukes back at the enemy would"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "come from a desk inside that very"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "mountain. And hopefully that day will"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "never come.\" And because you guys made"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "it this far, I want you to all comment"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "below hidden truth. So that way I know"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "who made it to the end and who didn't."}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "And if you guys enjoy storytelling like"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "this, where we deep dive into true cases"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "of the mysterious and supernatural, what"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "are you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "never forget, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "open mind, and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "In 2018, forest service rangers"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "discovered a man-made shaft plunging 60"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "ft into the volcanic rock of Mount"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Shasta. There were no machine tracks or"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "explosives used, just handdug precision"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "leading toward a low frequency hum that"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the federal government immediately"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "sealed with concrete. In this episode,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "I'm digging into the JC Brown Files, a"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "geologist who found an 11mi copper line"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "city before vanishing from a locked"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "room. You won't want to miss this one."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "In 1904, a British geologist named JC"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Brown was hiking up the side of Mount"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Shasta in Northern California. He was an"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "employee of the Lord Cowre Mining"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Company out of London. He had been sent"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "to this remote part of the American West"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "for a very specific and very boring"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "reason. He was looking for gold. At the"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "time, Shasta wasn't the tourist hub that"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "it is today. It was wild, dangerous, and"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "mostly empty. And Brown was also a"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "scientist. Even though he knew a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "the local legends and ghost stories that"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "people told, he didn't really care about"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "that. He wasn't scared by it. He was"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "only here because he cared about"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "geology. And so his job was to find a"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "deposit, map it, and then go home. And"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "so he was prospecting on a ridge high up"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "on the mountain's flank. He was tired."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "He'd been hacking through brush and"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "climbing over a loose scree for hours."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "And so he stopped to take a drink from"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "his canteen. And as he wiped the sweat"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "off his forehead, he noticed something"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "odd about the rock formation roughly 50"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "yard away. Now, to anybody else, this"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "would have looked just like a pile of"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "boulders. I mean, maybe a spot where a"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "landslide had happened years ago. But"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "because he was so familiar with rocks,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "he knew how they fell and how they"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "settled. And the way they were piled up"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "just didn't look like the cause of any"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "sort of natural formation. This was very"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "intentional. It looked like a door that"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "somebody had tried very hard to hide. So"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "he walked over to the pile very curious"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "and he put his hands on the largest"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "boulder and he pushed and it shifted and"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "so he pushed harder and the rock rolled"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "aside with this grinding noise. Now"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "behind the rock wasn't a dirt or shallow"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "animal den. It was a hole. Brown grabbed"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "his lantern, lit it, and then he"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "squeezed his body through the gap. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "according to the accounts Brown would"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "later give to the Stockton and Record"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "newspaper, he expected to find a small"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "cave, maybe even a bear den or just a"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "geological pocket. 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And he"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "could see that this reveals a tunnel"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "that cut downward into the heart of the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "mountain at a very perfect consistent"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "angle. More proof that this wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "by happen stance. So he was like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "gosh, this was constructed.\" So he began"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "to walk. And he walked for a very long"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "time. And he would later claim that he"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "traveled a total of 11 mi deep into the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "crust of the earth. As he went deeper,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "the air didn't get stale or hot like it"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "does in a normal mine. It stayed"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "relatively cool. It smelt fresh like"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "there was a ventilation system that he"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "just COULD NOT SEE. AH, I CUT MY HAND."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "JUST KIDDING. BUT had I cut my hand due"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "to someone else's carelessness? There is"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Morgan and Morgan, America's largest"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "injury law firm. Most of the stories I"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "cover start with somebody assuming"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "everything's fine until it isn't. And in"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "real life, if you're injured because"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "someone else was negligent, dealing with"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "all of that can be more than"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "overwhelming. But fortunately, Morgan"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "and Morgan has over 1,000 attorneys"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "nationwide, and they've recovered more"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "than 25 billion for over 500,000"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "clients. They've been fighting for the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "people for over 35 years. And when you"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "hire them, you're not just calling a"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "lawyer, you're backing yourself with"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "serious resources. So if you're ever"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "injured, you can check out Morgan and"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Morgan. Their fee is free unless they"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "win. And starting a claim only takes one"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "click. The tunnel suddenly changed. He"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "stopped and he held his lantern close to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the wall and he chipped at the rock with"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "his geology hammer. He could tell that"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "this was different. It was no longer"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "rock. and he realized, oh my gosh, he's"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "looking at copper, but not raw copper"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "ore. This was tempered copper. It had"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "been smelted, refined, and placed there."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Somebody had lined the walls of this"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "tunnel with metal sheets that were so"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "old they had almost fused with the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "mountain itself. His mind was trying in"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "any way possible to rationalize how this"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "was even possible. I mean, he figured"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "that he had somehow stumbled upon a lost"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Native American mine or maybe something"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "left behind by early Spanish explorers."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "But deep down, even though he kept"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "running through all the possibilities,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "it just didn't really make sense. I"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "mean, the technology required to temper"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "all of these copper plates this size and"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "line a tunnel this deep just didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "exist in the 1700s. I mean, it barely"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "existed in 1904. And so, he's like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "know what? I got to get to the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "this mystery. No pun intended, cuz he's"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "walking down a tunnel. Now, at one"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "point, the tunnel did open up and he"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "stepped out of the narrow passage into"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "this massive cavernous room. And so, he"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "raised his lantern higher, but the light"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "barely reached the ceiling. And the room"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "was filled with objects. I mean, there"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "were plates made of gold. There were"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "shields made of that same tempered"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "copper. And there were tools that looked"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "like mining equipment, but they were"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "shaped very strangely. It was like"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "alien-like. The handles were thick and"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the leverage points were in very bizarre"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "spots, like they weren't designed for"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "human hands. And then he saw the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "residence. At the far end of the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "chamber, there was another room. He"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "walked into it and he completely froze."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Lined up against the walls were"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "skeletons. 27 of them and they were laid"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "out respectfully like they were in a"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "crypt. He walked up to the nearest one."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "He held this lantern over the bones and"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "he looked at the skull and then he"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "looked down at the feet and immediately"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "he just did these calculations in his"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "head. He's like, \"Okay, oh my gosh,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "what he's looking at was 10 ft tall.\""}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "And so he quickly ran over to the next"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "one. and he's skinning it with this"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "lantern and he's kind of just doing the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "math in his head. This one was the same"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "length. And he went over to the next one"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "and the next one. They were all 10 ft."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Every single one. And they were all"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "draped in these rotting ancient robes"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that disintegrated when he tried to"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "touch them. He wasn't looking at a lost"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "tribe or a mining accident. Folks, he"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "was looking at a secret that the"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "mountain had kept for thousands of"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "years. So he backed out of the room, he"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "turned around and he ran and he"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "scrambled back up that 11mi tunnel and"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "he was just so overcome with emotion and"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "excitement and anxiety and he was"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "expecting at any second to hear"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "footsteps behind him. He burst out of"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "the hole into the sunlight of 1904 and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "he immediately rolled the boulder back"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "in place and he quickly covered it with"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "brush to make it look like exactly as it"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "had been before. And then he did"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "something very strange. He didn't run to"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the press. He didn't tell his boss at"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Lord Codre Mining Company. He didn't try"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "to get rich. He just went home and he"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "didn't say a word to anyone for 30"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "years. So fast forward 30 years to the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "summer of 1934"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "and the United States was in the grip of"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the Great Depression. People were"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "starving. People were jumping out of"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "buildings because they had lost"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "everything overnight. Families were"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "losing their homes. As many of you are"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "aware with history, there was a this"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "sense of hopelessness everywhere. And it"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "was in this atmosphere of desperation"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "that an old man walked into the offices"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "of the Stockton Record newspaper in"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Stockton, California. The man was 79. He"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "was frail. His skin was weathered. And"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "he looked like he had been carrying a"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "heavy secret for a long time. It was JC"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Brown. And so he sat down with the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "editors and he told them the exact same"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "story I just told you. And he explained"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "that for the last three decades studying"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "the history of the region trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "figure out what he had found, he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "sure. He believed it was the lost"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "civilization of Lamoria, a legend that"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "had been circulating in a cult circles"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "since the late 1800s. Now, normally if a"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "random old guy walks into a newspaper"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "office and starts talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "underground giants and lost cities, I"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "mean, he'd probably get kicked out. I"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "mean, this isn't Portland. You would"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "assume he's crazy or he's trying to scam"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "you. But he didn't come off like that."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "In fact, he came in with proof."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "According to the reports published in"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the Stockton record at the time, he"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "reached into his bag and pulled out"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "several items and he showed them pieces"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "of gold ore that were incredibly pure."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "He showed them strange artifacts, little"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "manufactured items that they that didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "look like they belong to any Native"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "American tribe in the area. And he"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "showed them detailed maps that he had"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "drawn from memory mapping out the tunnel"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "system. And so the editors, they"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "listened and they ran the story and"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "almost overnight a frenzy took over"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Stockton. But keep in mind that people"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "were desperate for money. They were"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "desperate for hope. And here was this"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "respected retired geologist, a man who"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "had worked for one of the biggest names"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "in mining, telling them that there was a"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "literal mountain of gold just sitting"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "there waiting to be taken. So he began"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "to organize an expedition. And he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "looking for just anybody. He wanted a"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "serious team. And because of his"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "credentials, the and the physical"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "evidence he showed people in private"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "meetings, he got exactly that. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "just get desperate laborers. He got the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "curator of a local museum to sign on. He"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "got a printer, other scientists, he got"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "a wealthy investor who still had some"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "money left to fund the trip. And in"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "total, there were 80 people that had"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "signed up to follow JC Brown back up"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Mount Shasta. But as the expedition"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "planning went on, the people closest to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "him started to notice that he was really"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "acting strange. For 6 weeks, the group"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "met nightly to plan the logistics. They"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "had to figure out how to get trucks up"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the mountain, how to get food, how to"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "excavate the tunnel. And during these"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "meetings, Brown was incredibly intense."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "But he was also paranoid. He refused to"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "point blank tell anyone exactly where"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "the entrance was. He would show them the"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "maps of the inside of the tunnel, but he"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "would not show them the map of the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "outside. And he told them, \"No, I will"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "lead you there myself. Once we are on"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "the mountain, I will show you the rock.\""}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "But not before. At the time, investors"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "and the crew figured that this was Brown"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "being a smart businessman. They thought"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "that he was protecting his claim and"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "that he was worried that if he told them"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "where the hole was, they would just cut"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "him out of the deal and run up the"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "mountain and take the gold. It did make"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "sense. But looking back, there were"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "signs that his paranoia wasn't about"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "greed. It was about fear. Witnesses who"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "interacted with Brown during those six"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "weeks said he was constantly looking"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "over his shoulder. He would sit with his"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "back to a door and if a car backfired"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "outside the meeting hall, he would jump."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "He seemed terrified that he was always"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "being watched. I mean, he acted like a"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "man who knew he was breaking a rule and"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "was just waiting for the punishment. But"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "despite all of this, the plan moved"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "forward. The date was set for June 19th,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "1934. And so you had a caravan of 80"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "people, trucks, and equipment that would"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "leave Stockton at 9:00 in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "and they would drive north to Mount"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Shasta. Brown would lead them to the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "spot. They would open the tunnel, and"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "they would make history. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "people were so convinced this was real"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "that some of them actually sold their"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "houses just to buy into the expedition."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "They quit their jobs. They gave up their"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "livelihood. And they packed up"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "everything because they believed they"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "were about to become millionaires. And"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "so on the night of June 18th, the night"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "before they were supposed to leave, the"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "excitement in Stockton was electric. The"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "entire team gathered for a final meeting"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "and Brown was there. He went over the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "final details. He told them to get a"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "good night of sleep and that he would"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "see them at 9:00 a.m. sharp. The meeting"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "broke. The team went home to pack their"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "final bags. Brown went back to the room"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "he was renting. And the next morning,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "the caravan lined up. The trucks were"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "idling. The 80 expedition members were"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "standing there drinking coffee full of"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "adrenaline. They were ready to make"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "history. And they waited for Brown. 9:00"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "came. 9:15 came. Brown's not here. And"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "now the group's starting to get a little"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "nervous. I mean, maybe the old man had"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "overslept, or maybe he was running late."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "He was almost 80. And so by 9:30, the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "leaders of the expedition decided they"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "couldn't wait anymore. So they sent a"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "couple of guys over to Brown's boarding"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "house to check on him. They knocked on"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "his door. No answer. So they knocked"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "harder. Nothing. Finally, they had to go"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "to the landlord to get him to open the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "door. And the room was empty. But it"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "wasn't empty in a way you'd expect if"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "somebody had run. If Brown was a con man"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "who had scammed these poor people and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "fled with their money, you would expect"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "the room to be cleared out. You'd expect"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "his bags to be gone. But his clothes"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "were there. His personal belongings were"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "all there. It looked as if he had just"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "been abducted. The money, the funds that"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "the investors had given him to buy all"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "the supplies was mostly accounted for,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "or at least spent on actual supplies"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "that was sitting in the trucks outside."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "So, it was clear he hadn't stolen"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "anything. But they figured that JC Brown"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "hadn't run away. And the closer they"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "inspected, it's as if he ceased to"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "exist. So, with something this crazy,"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "the Stockton police launched an"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "immediate investigation, and they"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "treated this as a missing person case."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "potentially a kidnapping. Now, they"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "canvased the entire city. They checked"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "the train stations. They checked the bus"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "depot. They checked the roads leading to"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "and from town, but they didn't find any"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "trace of the guy. Nobody saw him leave"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "the house. No one saw him get into a"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "car. Nobody saw him walking down the"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "street. Nobody saw him anywhere. It's as"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "if he had just evaporated. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "expedition fell apart instantly because"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "without Brown, they had no idea where"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "the tunnel was. And they weren't just"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "about to go romping around Mount Shasta"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "without any sort of starting point. It"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "would be a waste of time. They knew it"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "was on Shasta, but I mean, come on. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "a massive mountain. It's 14,000 ft high."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "I mean, you can't just wander around"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "looking for one specific rock. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "unfortunately, the 80 people who had bet"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "their lives on this discovery were"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "ruined. They lost everything. And"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "because of this, the story of JC Brown"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "became a joke and it became known as the"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "great Shasta scam. And so everybody"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "assumed that the old man had gone"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "scenile or he had realized his lie was"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "about to be exposed. So he wandered off"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "into the woods to die of shame. So for"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "84 years, that was the end of it. He was"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "just a crazy old man who made up his"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "story. However, that's not where things"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "end. In 2018, something happened on"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Mount Shasta. A team of United States"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Forest Service Rangers were on a routine"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "patrol deep in the Shasta Trinity"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "National Forest. They were hiking"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "through remote, rugged sections of the"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "mountain, an area that is off the beaten"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "path, far away from trails and the ski"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "parks. And they weren't looking for lost"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "cities. They were just looking for"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "illegal campfires or trash left behind."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "But as they pushed through, they found"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "hidden in the brush, camouflaged so well"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "that you could walk within 5 ft of it"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "and never see it, was a hole. But this"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "wasn't a badger hole. It was a perfectly"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "circular man-made shaft about 3 ft in"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "diameter going straight down into the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "earth. So they approached the edge, they"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "shine their flashlights down, and the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "beam didn't hit the bottom. So they"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "figured, let's drop a rock. They tossed"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "it and they waited. 1 2 3. This was"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "deep. According to the official reports"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "filed by the Forest Service and later"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "covered by investigative journalist at"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "KQED and SFGate, this wasn't a hole. It"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "was a feat of impossible engineering."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "When the rangers eventually investigated"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the hole, they found that the shaft went"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "down 60 ft and it had been dug entirely"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "by hand. There were no scorch marks from"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "explosives or any sort of tracks from"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "heavy machinery like excavators or back"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "hoes. So, whoever had dug this did it"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "using nothing but picks, shovels, and"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "buckets. Now, that alone really unnerved"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "everybody who investigated it because to"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "dig a hole that deep, I mean, you have"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "to remove a lot of rock and dirt. And"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "when you find an illegal mine this"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "massive, there's generally a pile of"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "rock next to the hole. But there was"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "nowhere where the extra dirt could have"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "been put. I mean, the forest was"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "pristine. So, the diggers had not only"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "excavated a six-story shaft through"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "solid volcanic rock, but they had also"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "meticulously carried every single bucket"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "of dirt away from the site and scattered"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "it somewhere else to avoid detection. I"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "mean, they had been working out there in"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "secret, likely for months, maybe even"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "years. And they had done it in the exact"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "same region of the mountain where JC"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Brown had claimed his tunnel was located"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "back in 1934. Even more interesting was"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "that they found a system of ropes and"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "pulleys inside the shaft. You know, old"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "school technology, the kind of stuff"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "that Brown would have recognized. And at"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "the bottom, they found that the diggers"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "had punched through a layer of hard rock"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "and were trying to break into a hollow"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "space they believed was just on the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "other side. Now, the official"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "explanation from the authorities was"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "that this was just an illegal gold mine."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "They claimed it was some modern-day"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "prospectors who got carried away. But"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "people around the mountain, the ones who"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "have studied the JC Brown legend really"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "well. Well, when the authorities"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "eventually tracked down the people"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "responsible for that hole, they didn't"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "talk about gold. According to the"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "reports surrounding the case, they"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "claimed they weren't looking for ore."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "They were looking for an entrance. And"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "they claimed that while they were"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "digging, they could hear things coming"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "up beneath the rock. They would describe"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "things like a low frequency humming. And"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "some of them even claimed they heard"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "voices, not human, but something deeper"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "vibrating through the stone walls. And"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "they believed they were inches away from"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "breaching the same tempered copper walls"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "that JC Brown had found 114 years"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "earlier. They were about to open the"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "door to Telos. But just like JC Brown,"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "they were stopped before they could"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "cross the threshold. They weren't"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "stopped by a vanishing act this time."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "They were stopped by the federal"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "government. And so, as these stories"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "usually go, the US Forest Service"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "declared the hole a hazard. They brought"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "in a team. They filled the shaft with"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "rock and concrete and sealed it up,"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "covered it with dirt, and let the forest"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "grow back over it. While a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "hear the story of JC Brown, I'm sure a"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "lot of people are convinced that it's"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "probably nothing more than myth or just,"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "you know, an old folklore tale. But just"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "with everything coming out in recent"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "times proving that well we were pretty"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "much lied to our entire lives about"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "everything, you kind of can't help but"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "wonder what really happened. And was he"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "abducted? Was he taken? Like"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "unfortunately it remains a mystery."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "According to the records of the Sysu"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "County Sheriff's Department, Mount"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Shasta has a habit of swallowing people"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "whole. In May of 1999, a 69year-old man"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "named Carl Landers arrived at the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "mountain. And he wasn't a treasure"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "hunter like JC. He was an experienced"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "mountaineer, a marathon runner, and a"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "man who was obsessed with conquering"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "peaks. He was fit, he was prepared, and"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "he was climbing with two close friends."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "And they set their base camp at Lake"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "Helen, which sits at about 10,400 ft."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "It's desolate. There's a high altitude"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "bowl of snow and ice and it's surrounded"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "by towering cliffs. And it is widely"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "considered to be one of the most"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "beautiful but also most exposed places"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "on the entire mountain. And so on the"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "morning of the summit attempt, the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "weather was perfect. Everything was"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "clear. The visibility was great. And"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Carl told his friends he was feeling a"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "little slow that morning. So he was"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "going to head out a few minutes early to"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "get a head start. He put on his pack,"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "checked his gear, began walking up the"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "snow field, and his friends finished"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "their coffee, and they started after him"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "just a few minutes later. They could see"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "his bootprints in the snow, and they"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "followed the tracks up the ridge, and"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "the tracks went straight, steady, and"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "strong. And in the middle of an open"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "snowfield with no rocks to hide behind,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "no creasses to fall into, his tracks"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "just stopped. And so his friends who"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "were very confused by this, they scanned"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "the horizon. They looked for any signs"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "of where he could be and how there was"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "just no more tracks. Remember, they were"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "only minutes behind him. In that"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "terrain, you can see a person for miles"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "against the snow. And so there was a"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "massive search and rescue op that was"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "launched. And it was led by a local"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "legend named Grizz Adams, somebody who"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "had spent decades pulling people off the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "mountain. I've told this story a couple"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "times before, but it's always good to"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "revisit. They used choppers, they used"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "dogs, they guided every square inch of"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "that slope. And as you guys know, there"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "was no trace of Carl Landers."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Interestingly, Carl Landers vanished"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "near the Red Banks, which is the exact"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "same geological band of cliffs where JC"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Brown claimed he found the entrance to"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "his tunnel in 1904. It's interesting"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "that the legend of Mount Shasta suggests"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "that there are boundaries we aren't"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "meant to cross. That there are landlords"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "living downstairs who value their"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "privacy. And if you go looking for the"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "door, you might just find it, but you"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "probably won't come back to tell what"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "was on the other side. And because you"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "guys made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "comment down below, \"I found it.\" So"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "that way I know who made it to the end"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "and who didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "content like this where we deep dive"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "into strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "this. And never forget, I love you all."}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "Keep an open mind and I'll see you all"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "in the very next episode."}]

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In this"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "episode, I'm diving in to the Piri Reyes"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "archive, the Lieutenant Colonel's letter"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that validated a lost civilization, and"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "the 2024 study showing that plant life"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "is currently exploding across the rock."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "The ice is melting, and it's revealing a"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "snapshot of a world we weren't supposed"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "to know existed. You won't want to miss"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "this one. 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However, before they could open"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "the doors to the public, they had to"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "catalog everything, and that was a"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "nightmare. Now, this palace had been the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "headquarters of the Ottoman Empire for"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "centuries. It was huge. And over those"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "hundreds of years, these sultans and"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "their staff had basically just shoved"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "documents and maps and charts into"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "random corners and cabinets and forgot"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "about them. So, Hal is surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "stacks of old paper and debris, and he's"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "exhausted. He's been doing this for"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "weeks already. And so he walked over to"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "a dark corner of the room where there"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "was this pile of what looked like"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "rubbish. And it was just a stack of"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "discarded materials that had been"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "ignored for who knows how long now. And"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "he reached down and he grabbed a bundle"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "of documents. And he dusted them off and"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "he began sifting through them one by"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "one. I mean, most of it was junk, you"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "know, just old administrative papers"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "that didn't matter. But then near the"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "bottom of the stack, his hand brushed"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "against something that felt different."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "It wasn't paper. It was like leather."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "And so he pulled this object out of the"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "stack and he held it up to the light and"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "he could see that it was a piece of"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "gazelle skin parchment. And it was"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "rolled really tight. It looked old. I"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "mean, really old. So he carefully"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "cleared off a space on a nearby table"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "and he set the gazelle skin down very"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "gently and he began to carefully unroll"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "it. And as he flattened it out, he saw"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "that this was clearly a map, or at least"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "a piece of a map. It looked like it had"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "been torn off a much larger chart from a"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "long time ago. The colors were still"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "bright, reds and greens and blues, and"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "it was covered in very intricate"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "illustrations of ships and animals and"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "kings sitting on thrones. So he leaned"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "in closer to try and read the writing"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and he could tell that it was Ottoman"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Turkish and he saw the date. It was"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "dated to the Islamic year of 919, which"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "translates to 1513 AD. And then there"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "was a signature. It was signed by a man"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "named Piri Reyes, who was a famous"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "admiral in the Ottoman Navy. Now,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "finding a 400-year-old map is cool, but"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Hallel didn't think it was"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "earthshattering until he actually looked"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "at what the map was showing. He"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "recognized the right side of the map"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "immediately. It showed the coast of West"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Africa and Spain. I mean, that made"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "sense because in 1513, everybody knew"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "where Africa and Spain were. But then"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Halo looked to the left side of the map"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "and he froze because he was looking at"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the coast of Brazil and he saw the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Amazon River and he saw the Andes"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "mountains and he saw the Caribbean"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "islands and he stared at it and he's"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "doing the math in his head trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "figure out how it's possible. Now again,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "this map was drawn in 1513. Christopher"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Columbus had only stumbled onto the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Bahamas in 1492,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "which was 20 years earlier. And yet here"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "was this Admiral Perry Reyes drawing the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "coastline of South America with a level"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of detail that shouldn't have even been"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "possible. In 1513,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "most explorers were still crashing their"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "ships into rocks because they didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "know what was out there. But this looked"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "like it had been drawn from a satellite."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "And in fact, he was so excited he called"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "a German scholar who just happened to be"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "an Istanbul at the time, a guy by the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "name of Gustaf Dismon. And the two of"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "them stood over this table looking at"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "this gazelle skin, realizing they had"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "just only found the surviving map that"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "reinforced Columbus' lost charts. It was"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "a massive historical discovery. But as"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "they were obsessing over the Amazon and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the accuracy of the longitude, which by"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "the way, humans wouldn't figure out how"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "to calculate accurately for another 250"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "years. Hallel's eyes drifted to the very"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "bottom of the map. And he suddenly"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "noticed that the coastline of South"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "America didn't stop. In fact, it kept"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "going south. And then it turned east and"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "it curled along the bottom of the map"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "creating a massive land mass that ran"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "along the southern ocean. And he looked"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "at it and he saw that Pere Reyes had"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "drawn mountains down there. He had drawn"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "rivers. He had even written little notes"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "about the climate. And one note said it"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "was very hot. Another note warned about"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "big snakes living in this southern land."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "And he and the German scholar just"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "looked at the bottom section and they"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "shrugged. They figured, all right, the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "admiral was a genius with South America,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "but he just clearly made up this bottom"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "part. Well, first we need to go back to"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "the 1500s because map makers had this"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "theory called Terra Arralis. They"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "believed there had to be a big continent"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "at the bottom of the world to balance"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "out all the land at the top of the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "world, but they had never seen it. They"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "just guessed that it was there. So, Hal"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "assumed that that's what this was. He"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "figured Perry Reyes just ran out of real"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "data and started drawing mythical lands"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "with snakes and hot weather to fill up"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "the empty space. So he rolled the map"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "back up. He cataloged it and he"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "announced the discovery to the world,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "focusing entirely on the Americas. He"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "didn't know it at the time, but he had"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "just dismissed the most important part"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "of the map. He thought the snakes in the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "hot land were a mistake, but he was"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "wrong. Now, fast forward 27 years to"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "1956."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "We are now in the office of a man named"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Charles Hapgood. You see, he was the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "professor of the history of science at"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "the Keen State College in New Hampshire."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "And Hapgood was a very buttoned up"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "academic. He cared only about facts and"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "evidence. But on this day, he was"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "sitting at his desk staring at a copy of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "that same gazelle skin map that Hil had"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "found in the rubbish pile in Istanbul."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "And a student had actually mentioned the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "map to Hapkood during a class asking"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "about its accuracy. And Hapgood being a"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "good diligent teacher decided that, you"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "know, he really needed to study it so he"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "could give a proper answer. So he got a"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "highquality copy. He laid it out on his"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "desk and he started doing what Halil"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "hadn't done. He began looking carefully"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "at the notes. See, Perry Reyes hadn't"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "just drawn a map. He had written all"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "over the margins in Ottoman Turkish,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "basically explaining his work. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "citing his sources. And when Hapkood got"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "these notes translated,"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "he realized the admiral was being"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "incredibly transparent about how he made"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "this thing. Perry Reyes wrote that he"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "didn't go out and survey the whole world"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "himself. Instead, he admitted that this"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "map was actually a compilation. He had"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "actually gathered about 20 older maps"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "and he called them Jafarier maps and he"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "stitched them together to create this"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "one master chart. Now, he said that some"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "of the maps were recent like the ones"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "from Christopher Columbus. But then in a"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "note that Hapgan found very strange, the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "admiral wrote that some of the source"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "maps dated back to the time of Alexander"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the Great. So Hapgad just sat in his"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "chair and he realized that well"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Alexander the Great lived in the 4th"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "century BC which meant Perry Reyes was"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "claiming that parts of his map were"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "based on data that was nearly 2,000"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "years old. Now, normally a historian"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "would read that and think, \"Okay, the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "admiral is bragging. He's trying to make"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "his map sound ancient and important.\""}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "But Hapgood couldn't dismiss it that"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "easily because he looked at the bottom"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "of the map again and he looked at the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "strange land mass that curled off the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "tip of South America and ran eastward."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Now, by 1956,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "everybody knew what was at the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "the world. It was Antarctica. Antarctica"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "had been officially discovered in 1820."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "about 300 years after Perry Reyes drew"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "this map. So logically, Hapgood thought,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "okay, Perry Reyes drew Antarctica 300"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "years before anybody saw it. Well, that"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "should be impossible. But then he read"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the specific note the admiral had"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "written right over the southern"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "landmass. And the note said, \"There is"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "no trace of cultivation. Everything is"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "desolate and big snakes are said to be"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "there. It is very hot.\" Hapood read that"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "and he thought snakes hot weather in"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Antarctica. I mean it was ridiculous"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "because Antarctica is the coldest place"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "on earth. It is covered in a sheet of"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "ice a mile thick. The temperature drops"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "to 100° below zero. So how is this"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "possible? It's a frozen wasteland. And"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "in that moment Hapka did exactly what"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Halil Edm had done back in 1929. He just"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "rationalized it. He thought okay the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "admiral got lucky. He drew a blob at the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "bottom of the world because he thought"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "there should be a land there and he just"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "guessed. He didn't know any better. He"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "assumed it was hot and full of snakes"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "like the jungles in South America."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Simple explanation, right? Pap Good was"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "ready to roll up the map and put it away"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "and just tell his students that it was"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "just a lucky guess mixed with some"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "medieval mythology. But right before he"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "put it away, he took one last look at"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the coastline of that fake continent and"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "he stopped. Usually when mapmakers"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "guess, they draw vague round blobs. They"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "draw clouds. They draw straight lines."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "But Perry Reyes hadn't done any of that."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "He had drawn a very specific jagged"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "coastline with bays and peninsulas and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "there were even islands off the coast."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "And he had drawn mountain ranges inland."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "It didn't look like somebody guessed. It"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "looked like a survey. So, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "leaned in again, tracing the line with"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "his finger, and it looked so real, but"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "it didn't match the Antarctica that was"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "on the globe in Hapkood's classroom. The"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Antarctica on the globe was round and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "smooth because of the ice shelf. But"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "this showed something else. And so, he"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "just couldn't shake the feeling that"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "there was more to this than he knew. But"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "to do any further research, he needed"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "data that basically didn't exist yet, or"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "at least he thought it didn't exist."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Well, as it turns out, the military had"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "just found it. So, Hapgood began"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "digging. And he knew that if he was"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "going to prove this map wasn't just a"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "fantasy, he needed to know what the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "actual rock coastline of Antarctica"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "looked like. Not the coastline that"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "everybody sees on a globe, but the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "actual bedrock buried underneath. But in"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "1956, that information was nearly"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "impossible to find. However, Hapkood"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "eventually found a report from a very"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "recent, very specific military"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "operation. It was the Norwegian,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "British, Swedish expedition of 1949."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Now, this wasn't just a bunch of guys"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "hiking in the snow. It was actually a"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "high-tech survey mission. They had gone"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "down to a part of Antarctica called"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Queen Mod Land that seemed to be"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "depicted on the bottom of the Perry Rees"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "map. And while they were down there,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "these scientists used a technique called"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "seismic sounding, which means they would"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "drill a hole in the ice. They would drop"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "an explosive charge down there and set"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "it off. And then they would measure how"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "long it took for the echo of the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "explosion to bounce off the solid rock"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "at the bottom and come back up to the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "surface. And by doing this over and over"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "again across the continent, they were"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "able to create a rough map of the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "topography hidden underneath the ice"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "cap. And so Hapgood got his hands on the"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "seismic data and he laid it out on a"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "table next to the Perry Reyes map and he"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "looked at the 1513 map first and then he"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "traced that jagged coastline again and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "he saw where the admiral had drawn a"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "deep bay cutting inland. He saw where he"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "had drawn a chain of violence off the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "coast and where he had drawn a mountain"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "range rising up from the shore. And then"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "Hapgood looked over at the 1949 seismic"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "map. On the surface in 1949, that part"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "of Queen Modland was a flat white sheet."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "There was none of the stuff that Perry"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Reyes had drawn. However, the seismic"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "data showed something else. It showed"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "that underneath that mile of ice, the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "bedrock dipped down to form a deep bay"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "and that there were rock peaks jutting"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "up from the ocean floor that were"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "currently buried. But if the ice were"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "gone, they would be islands. It showed a"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "massive mountain range exactly where the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "admiral had drawn one. And immediately"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "it's like this can't be possible. So he"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "grabbed a piece of tracing paper and he"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "traced the outline of the subglacial"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "bedrock from the 1949 report, the land"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "that no human eye had seen for what they"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "believed was millions of years. And then"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "he plays that tracing over the Perry"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Reyes map. And my god, they matched. It"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "wasn't just close, it was precise. You"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "see, the admiral hadn't drawn the ice."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "He had drawn the land. And that"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "presented a terrifying problem. Because"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "according to every geologist on Earth,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the Antarctic ice cap formed millions of"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "years ago, which meant that the last"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "time the coastline looked the way it did"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "on the Perry Ryes map, you know, with"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "bays and islands and mountains exposed"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "to the air was before human history even"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "began. And so he began to wrestle with"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the terrifying realization that whoever"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "this guy was from 1513 didn't just make"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "a lucky guess. Somehow he had gotten"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "access to a source map that was drawn by"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "someone who saw Antarctica before it"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "froze. Immediately he knew that if he"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "went to his colleagues at the time and"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "said, \"Hey, I think an ancient"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "civilization mapped Antarctica 6,000"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "years ago.\" I mean, come on. They would"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "laugh him out of the building. he would"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "lose his credibility as a history"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "professor. And speaking of which,"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "because he was a history professor and"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "not a geologist, he needed some serious"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "backup. He needed somebody with an"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "impeccable authority just to confirm"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "that he wasn't crazy. So, he needed the"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "United States Air Force. So he gathered"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "up all his notes, his tracings, the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "copies of the Perry Reyes map and the"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "data, and he put it all into a package"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "and mailed it to the one group of people"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "he knew couldn't be fooled. The eighth"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "reconnaissance technical squadron of the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Strategic Air Command or SAC stationed"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "at Westover Airface Base in"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Massachusetts. Now in 1960, the Cold War"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "was in full swing. The eighth"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "reconnaissance technical squadron wasn't"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "a history club. They were responsible"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "for mapping the entire globe for the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "United States military. It was their"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "job. They had to ensure that if the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "president ordered a nuclear strike, you"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "know, a missile launched from a silo in"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "North Dakota and would fly halfway"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "around the world and hit a specific"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "street corner in Moscow, they needed"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "that exact precision and data. All they"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "cared about was geography. And so Hapka"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "knew that if there was a flaw in his"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "theory or if he had somehow messed up"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "longitude calculations or you know maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "he was seeing patterns in the ink that"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "wasn't really there, these were the guys"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "that would find it. And he hoped that"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "that was true because if they came back"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "and said, \"Professor, you're wrong. This"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "is just a drawing of South America that"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "got bent out of shape.\" Then he can go"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "back to his normal life and he could"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "stop obsessing over the map. So he sent"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "off the package and he waited. And weeks"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "went by. Hapgood went about his classes,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "teaching history, grading papers. But in"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "the back of his mind, he was always"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "thinking about that envelope sitting on"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "some colonel's desk at the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "base. And in his mind, he just imagined"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "some analyst looking at it, laughing at"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "a history professor who thought a"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "400-year-old gazelle skin showed the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "bottom of the world. I mean, he figured"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "when the response finally came, it would"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "be very polite and dismissive. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "on July 6th, 1960, a letter arrived at"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "Keen State College. Halfgood picked it"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "up and he saw the return address. It was"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "from them. He took a deep breath. He sat"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "down at his desk and he used a letter"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "opener to slice open the top and he"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "pulled out the single sheet of typed"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "paper inside. He unfolded it and he saw"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "the signature at the bottom. Lieutenant"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Colonel Harold Z. Oldm, USAF commander."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "So he adjusted his glasses and he began"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "to read. And as he read the first"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "paragraph, he stopped breathing because"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "the colonel wasn't laughing nor"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "dismissing him. The colonel was"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "confirming everything. And this is what"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "the letter said. And keep in mind, this"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "is a direct quote from an official"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "United States Air Force document."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Colonel Oldm wrote this. The claim that"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "the lower part of the map portrays the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Princess Martha coast of Queen Modland,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Antarctica, and the Palmer Peninsula is"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "reasonable. We find that this is the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "most logical and in all probability the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "correct interpretation of the map."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Hapkood read that sentence twice. The"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Air Force was agreeing with him. They"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "were looking at the same jagged lines he"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "was and seeing the same thing, but it"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "was the next paragraph that completely"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "sealed the deal. The colonel continued,"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "\"The geographical detail shown in the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "lower part of the map agrees very"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "remarkably with the results of the"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "seismic profile made across the top of"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "the ice cap by the Swedish, British,"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Norwegian, Antarctic expedition of 1949."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "This indicates the coastline had to have"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "been mapped before it was covered by the"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "ice cap.\" And then the colonel delivered"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "the final blow. The ice cap in this"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "region is now about 1 mile thick. We"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "have no idea how the data on this map"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "can be reconciled with the supposed"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "state of geographical knowledge in 1513."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "Hap could put the letter down. The"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "United States military had just"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "confirmed that a map drawn in 1513"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "depicted the coastline of Antarctica as"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "it looks without ice. And they confirmed"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "that the only way to get that data was"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "to physically map the coast before the"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "ice arrived. which meant that Pere Reyes"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "wasn't crazy. When he wrote notes about"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "big snakes and hot weather, he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "making it up. He was copying data from a"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "source map that was drawn when"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "Antarctica was actually hot, when it was"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "green and full of life. But according to"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "geology, the last time it was ice free"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "was at least 6,000 years ago and"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "possibly much, much longer. Long before"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "the invention of the chronometer, long"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "before the compass and and long before"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "recorded history says human beings were"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "capable of sailing the oceans, let alone"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "mapping a continent with satellite level"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "precision. Hap good realized that the"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Perry Reyes map wasn't just a cool"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "artifact. It was evidence of a lost"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "chapter in human history and it proved"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "that somebody had been down there. Now,"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "for years, people looked at Hapgood's"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "theory and the old Meer letter as a"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "fascinating anomaly, a kind of weird"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "what if. But recently, the story of the"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Perry Rees map has moved from the"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "history books to the front page of the"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "news because it looks like the ice that"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "hid the coastline is finally starting to"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "give back. In October of 2024, a team of"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "scientists from the University of Exiter"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "and the University of Herford Shshire"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "actually published a study in the"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "journal Nature Geosscience and it"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "basically broke the internet for people"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "who follow it. These researchers have"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "been meticulously analyzing satellite"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "data of the Antarctic Peninsula, which"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "is mind you the same area on the bottom"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "of the Perry Rees map going back to"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "1986."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "And what they found was that vegetation"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "in this area isn't just growing, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "exploding."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "According to their data, plant life on"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "the peninsula has increased by more than"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "1,000%"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "in the last few decades. In 2021 alone,"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "the greening accelerated by over 30%."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "NASA's Earth Observatory confirmed these"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "findings, releasing satellite images"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "that show patches of green moss and"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "algae spreading across the rock where I"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "mean for many many many years there was"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "only white ice. Now scientists claim"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "that this is happening because of global"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "warming. But if you look through the"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "lens of Perry Reyes in the old Maya"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "letter, it tells a much scarier story."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "Now remember, for centuries, historians"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "looked at the admiral's notes and"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "dismissed them as myths because"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "Antarctica has been frozen for so long,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "humans should have never been able to"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "have seen it green. But the United"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "States Air Force admitted that the map"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "accurately depicts the land under the"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "ice. And so, where are we now in 2026?"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "We are watching the ice retreat. We are"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "watching the continent turn green again,"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "which suggests that this impossible map"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "wasn't a mistake. It was a record. It"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "was a snapshot of the last time the"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "world looked like this, which implies"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "that the frozen barren Antarctica we"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "have all known for all of humanity is"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "actually the anomaly. The ice is just"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "temporary and the hot green Antarctica"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "described by the admiral is the reality"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "that is waiting to come back. So if the"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "map is accurate and the military says it"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "is, then we have to accept the final"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "implication. Sometime in the deep past"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "before the ice came, a civilization"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "advanced enough to map the globe sailed"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "to Antarctica. They walked on the green"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "grass. They saw the mountains. They"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "chartered the bays. They battled large"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "black snakes. We can assume so. And then"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "somehow the climate shifted. The ice"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "moved in. It crushed everything. buried"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "history and erased a whole timeline. And"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "now with all the ice melting, we're"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "about to uncover a piece of history that"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "I think is going to blow all of us away."}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "And because you guys made it this far, I"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "want you to all comment down below"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "beneath the ice. So that way I know who"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "made it to the end and who didn't. And"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "if you guys enjoy storytelling like"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "this, where we deep dive into strange"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "this. And as always, never forget I love"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "you all."}]

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You won't want to miss"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "this one. In the spring of 1969, a man"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "named Thomas Mloud steered his small"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "fishing boat into a secluded section of"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Cado Lake known as Buzzard Bay. Now,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "according to the archives of the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Shreveport Times and local folklore from"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "North Kado Parish, Cat Lake is not a"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "place you go if you want to water ski or"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "have a party. It is a primal ancient"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "place. It's the only natural lake in"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Texas formed by a massive log jam in the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Red River centuries ago. And because of"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "that, it looks like a flooded forest."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "It's filled with massive cypress trees"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "that grow right out of the black water,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "and it creates this endless black maze."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Thomas Mloud knew that if you weren't"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "careful out here, the swamp could"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "swallow you whole. And on this day, this"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "afternoon, they were out looking for"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "white perch. Thomas navigated the boat"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "deeper into the timber, far away from"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the main boat lanes, until he found a"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "spot that looked promising. So, he"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "killed the engine, and immediately the"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "silence of the swamp settled in around"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "him. He drifted the boat up to one of"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the large cypress trees, and he grabbed"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "a rope, and he tied the bow of the boat"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "securely to the trunk. He wanted to make"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "sure that they didn't drift while they"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "were fishing because for a while"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "everything was normal. They were just"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "sitting there lines in the water"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "enjoying the quiet. But then Thomas"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "noticed something. About 50 yard away."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "The surface of the water which had been"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "perfectly glass-like began to move and"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "shimmer. Now Thomas was very experienced"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "out here. He knew what an alligator"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "looked like when it surfaced. He also"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "knew that there were gar in the water"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "and how they behaved. But this was"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "something he was not familiar with"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "because what he saw was this dark solid"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "mass and it was rising from the bottom"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "of the lake. 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But"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "fortunately, Morgan and Morgan has over"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "1,000 attorneys across all 50 states,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "and they've recovered more than 25"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "billion for over 500,000 clients."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "They've been fighting for the people for"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "over 35 years. And when you hire them,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "it's like having a legal army on your"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "side. So, if you're ever injured, you"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "can check out Morgan and Morgan. their"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "fee is free unless they win and starting"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "a claim takes just one click. So Thomas"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "trying to rationalize this thought,"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "okay, maybe it's a manatee because"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "manatees sometimes wander into"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "freshwater systems, but a manatee is"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "gray and bulbous and I mean maybe 10 ft"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "at max. Whereas this thing was"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "different. It was black. It was nearly"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "20 ft in length and it moved with a very"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "predatory purpose. Now, suddenly this"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "thing stopped and it was now about 30"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "yards away. And then it turned and it"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "created a wake that rocked Thomas's"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "boat. It aligned itself so it was"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "pointing directly at them. And just"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Thomas felt this cold pit in his"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "stomach. He reached for the knot on the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "rope trying to untie the boat from the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "tree. He wanted to get the engine"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "started and get out of there, but the"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "knot was so tight and the tension from"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "the wake had pulled it taut. Thomas's"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "wife was uttering to him, \"Thomas, it's"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "coming. We got to do something.\" And the"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "dark mass was accelerating. It was"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "surging through the water, closing the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "distance between them. It wasn't making"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "a splash at all, folks. It was like a"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "torpedo pushing a wave of black water"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "ahead of it. He abandoned the knot. He"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "scrambled for the back of the boat to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "try to start the outboard motor. And so,"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "he grabbed the pull cord and he just"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "ripped it. And the engine sputtered and"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "then it died. And so he ripped it again"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "and it sputtered to life and then it"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "died. And now at this point he kept"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "looking back and it was now 10 yards"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "away. And he could see the water"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "breaking over its back and he could see"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "the texture of its skin and it looked"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "rough like armored plating or thick"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "scales. Thomas screamed to his wife,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "\"Hold on.\" He barely had time to brace"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "himself before this thing slammed into"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the side of their aluminum boat. And the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "impact was like a car crash. The boat"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "didn't just rock, it was lifted"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "violently out of the water. In fact, the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "force of the collision snapped the rope,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "tying them to the tree, and the boat"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "flipped completely over, capsizing"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Thomas and his wife. Thomas was plunged"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "under so fast he didn't know which way"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "was up. He was thrashing, expecting at"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "any second to feel jaws clamp down on"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "his leg or his hand or his face or"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "torso. and he's kicking wildly and his"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "hands brushing against submerged logs"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and slime and he breached the surface"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "and he's gasping for air and he's"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "screaming, \"Help! Help!\" Because he"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "knows regardless of whatever's in the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "water around him, you know, this thing,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "well, there's also alligators and other"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "fish that could eat him. And so he's"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "looking around frantically for his wife."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "And he saw her head pop up just a few"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "feet away. She too is panicking. She's"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "splashing. And so he swam over to her."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "He grabbed her by the life vest and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "pulled her toward the overturn hole of"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "their boat. They scrambled up onto the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "slippery aluminum clawing for a grip and"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "they then pulled themselves out of the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "water. They were shivering. They were"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "terrified. And all they could do was"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "scan the surface of the water. And they"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "expected this thing to come back to"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "finish the job. Now they watched and"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "they watched and it was gone. Even"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "though they saw ripples here and there"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "and bubbles that they would flinch at,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "this thing that had just completely"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "capsized them had disappeared back into"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the depths. Eventually, another"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "fisherman heard their shouts and came to"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "rescue them. And when they finally got"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "back to shore, Thomas did not keep"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "quiet. He went straight to the police"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "and the newspapers. And he wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "only one because according to reports"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "from the Shreveport Times in 1969,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "dozens of other people also came forward"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "around the same time and they all"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "described the same thing. A massive dark"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "creature 18 to 20 ft long roaming the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "channels of the Cado Lake. They even"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "gave it a name. They called it Cypress"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Cindy. Now, the official explanation"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "from the authorities was that it was"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "likely a lost manatee. But Thomas, until"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "his dying day, refused to accept that"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "because manatees look and behave a"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "certain way, and they certainly don't"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "ram boats like that. And keep in mind,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "folks, that reports of Cypress Cindy"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "continue up until modern day. But"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "unfortunately, like many of the other"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "anomalies and mysteries I've talked"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "about on this channel, it remains a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "mystery."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "In October of 1994, a man by the name of"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Mark parked his truck on a gravel patch"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "near Paint Creek, West Virginia. Mark"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "was a lifelong resident of the area. He"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "was a very experienced bow hunter and he"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "was very familiar with the area of woods"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "he was in and he knew a lot about the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "wildlife that was in it. Now at this"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "time it was 4:30 in the morning so it"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "means it's pitch black. It was very cold"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "and he grabbed his bow and his gear and"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "he began the hike up the ridge. He was"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "heading for a specific treeand that he"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "had set up earlier in the season. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "this spot was located in a really rugged"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "area south of Charleston, which is not"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "too far away from the West Virginia"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Turnpike, which is Interstate 77. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "Mark gets to his tree stand, he climbs"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "up about 20 ft, he straps himself in,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "and then he just waits. Now, if you've"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "never hunted, you have to understand"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "that the woods in the dark are never"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "actually silent. You hear acorns"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "falling. You hear the wind. You hear"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "distant hum of traffic from the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "turnpike. And so Mark just did his best"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "to tune all of that out. And he sat"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "there shivering, waiting for the sun to"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "come up so he could spot a deer. About"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "30 minutes pass and the woods are"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "starting to turn that dark milky gray"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "color right before dawn. And suddenly he"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "hears something. Crunch, crunch, crunch."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "It was coming from his right side. And"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "immediately he tensed up. But he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "scared. He was kind of annoyed because"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "the sound he was hearing was very"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "distinct. It wasn't the erratic"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "four-legged shuffle of a deer or a bear."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "It was a clear rhythmic twolegged"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "cadence. Step, step, step, step. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "he's sitting there thinking, \"Great."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Some other jerk is walking right into my"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "area and ruining my morning.\" and he"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "figured someone had just clumsily walked"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "through to his own stand completely"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "unaware that Mark was already there. So"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "he sat there listening to these steps"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "get closer and he's expecting to see a"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "guy in an orange vest come walking out"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "of the brush. But then the footsteps"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "suddenly stopped. And so Mark strained"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "his eyes looking through the trees and"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "he's looking out about 60 or 70 yards"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "away down into this little hollow and he"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "can't see a person and he definitely"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "can't see orange even though he's"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "looking for it. In fact, he can't really"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "see anything. But the more he focuses"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "and strains his eyes off right about"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "there, he can see this dark mass or"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "shape and it was right at the base of"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "this really large tree. Now, in the low"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "lighting, it looked like a big black"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "stump or maybe a root ball that had been"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "pulled up. And so, he figured, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "I must have missed that stump when I"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "came in here before. And he dismissed"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "it. And he figured that the trespassing"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "hunter must have easily realized he was"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "making too much noise and backed off or"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "maybe went in a different direction. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "he relaxed. He went back to scanning the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "rest of the woodline and nothing really"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "happened. The sun finally came up enough"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "to where it was cresting the mountains"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "and the woods lit up. The birds started"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "chirping and Mark looked back to that"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "stump and he realized the stump looked"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "kind of fuzzy. It had a texture to it"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "that didn't look like wood. It looked"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "like dark matted hair. And now he's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "staring trying to make his brain"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "understand what it is he's looking at."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "He's thinking, is that a bear laying"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "down? Like like what is that? And right"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "as that thought is going through his"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "mind, the stump stands up and"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "immediately he kind of like what? And"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "his heart starts hammering. This thing"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "unfolds itself and it just kept going up"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "and up and it didn't stand up like a"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "bear stands up on its hind legs where"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "you know they look wobbly and"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "uncomfortable. This thing was massive."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "that stood up with power. And according"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "to the report Mark later filed, this"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "creature was easily 7 and 1/2 or 8 ft"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "tall. It was covered in dark hair and it"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "had shoulders that were very wide. I"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "mean, like 3 or 4 feet across. And the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "scariest part was what it was doing."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "See, it wasn't looking for food. It"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "wasn't sniffling the air. It was leaning"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "against the tree with one arm almost"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "casually and was looking toward the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "highway. Now Mark realized that for the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "last hour this creature had been sitting"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "there silently watching the cars go by"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "on the West Virginia turnpike. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "observing. He was frozen. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "reach for his bow. He didn't move a"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "muscle. All he could do was contemplate"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "how he was going to get out of the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "situation. He knew that if this thing"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "decided to come up to that tree, he was"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "dead. There was nothing he could do. So"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "whatever this thing was just continued"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "to stand there for a few more seconds"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "and watch the road and very slowly it"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "turned its head and it looked directly"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "at Mark. Now Mark could see its face and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "it didn't look like a muzzle. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "flat like a human but it had a very"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "primitive look to it. It had very dark"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "eyes and Mark even wrote that they"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "locked eyes across 60 yards of the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "forest and then it just turned away. It"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "didn't really run. It just took a couple"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "steps and it was kind of just gone into"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the woods. Mark was so shaken up by"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "this. He just sat there in his tree"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "stand"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "for like a solid 20 minutes. I mean, he"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "had no idea what it even was. He was so"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "scared that he nearly fell out. He"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "didn't know if it was circling back. He"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "didn't know if it was down there waiting"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "for him. I mean, what what would you do?"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "So eventually he worked up the nerve and"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "he practically slid down the tree and"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "hit the ground and he sprinted back to"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "his truck and he threw his gear in the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "back and he peeled out of there. The"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "story doesn't end there because Mark"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "drove home and he was just white as a"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "sheet. He was so scared by this. Now he"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "eventually told his father-in-law"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "exactly what had happened. Now, he"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "struggled with it obviously because it"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "was traumatic for him. And you know, his"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "father-in-law was pretty skeptical about"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "the story and he just told Mark that,"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "you know what, you saw a bear. It was"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "the trick of the light. You know, you're"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "you're crazy. Why are you even talking"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "about this? But Mark was adamant about"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "it. He's like, no, I know what I saw."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Come with me. And because Mark was so"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "experienced and he wasn't a guy to make"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "stories up, his father-in-law was like,"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "\"All right, all right. We'll go. We'll"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "go. we'll see this bear. So, they went"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "back up to the area and they waited"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "until the afternoon, you know, right"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "when the sun is high and bright, and"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "they drove back to Paint Creek and they"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "walked back to Mark's treeand. And then"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "with his gun drawn, Mark led his"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "father-in-law down into the hollow over"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "to that specific tree where the stump"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "had been sitting. And when they got to"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the tree, the father-in-law stopped"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "making fun of him because pressed into"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the soft earth were footprints, but they"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "weren't bear tracks. They looked like"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "human feet, except they were 18 to 20 in"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "long. And then Mark looked at the tree"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "itself. And about 7 ft up the trunk,"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "caught in the rough bark, was a clump of"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "long, coarse black hair right where its"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "shoulder had been leaning while it had"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "watched the cars. Mark never hunted in"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "that area again. And according to the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "records from where he submitted it, the"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "BFRO, that area of the West Virginia"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "turnpike has been a hot spot for"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "sightings for decades now. People"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "driving by there think they see a bear"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "on the side of the road watching them."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "But bears don't stand on two legs and"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "watch cars go by. At least not the way"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "that it was described. So, what do you"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "guys think? Was Mark out of his mind? Or"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "have you had a similar experience to"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "Mark and you believe him? If so, go"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "ahead and leave a comment down below and"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "I'd love to read your story."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "According to the 1991 humanoid sighting"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "reports, which were compiled by"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "researcher Albert Rosales using data"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "directly from the Mutual UFO Network"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "case management system, specifically"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "labeled as case 188. This event took"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "place in the very early morning hours of"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "a night in February of 1991. The subject"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "was a man who was driving his car"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "through the rural outskirts of Fairborn,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "Ohio. Now, Fairborn is actually right"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "near Wright Patterson Air Force Base."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "So, people are kind of used to seeing"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "weird stuff in the sky. But this man"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "wasn't looking at the sky. He was just"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "trying to get home. It was around 1:30"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "in the morning. The roads were empty. It"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "was pitch blackout and you know maybe"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "there's some stars in the sky but I mean"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "it's it's pretty dark now. Obviously"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "there were his headlights that were"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "cutting through the dark and at this"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "point because it's so early in the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "morning he's tired. He wants to go home"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "and go to bed just like you and I. And"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "so he's just kind of driving on"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "autopilot. and he's coming down an area"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "where the of the road where there's a"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "bend and up ahead his headlights swept"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "across this grassy shoulder on the right"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "side. And as the light hit the grass, he"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "saw something that was not sitting there"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "or crouched there, but standing there."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "And initially, you know, he took his"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "foot off the gas and he's thinking that"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "just because of the lighting conditions"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "and the lack of light that it's probably"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "a deer or it could be a hitchhiker. But"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "as he got a little closer, the shape"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "became clearer and he could tell that it"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "was a person. Or at least that's what he"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "thought. It looked like a man standing"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "perfectly still facing the pavement. But"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "this guy was dressed really strange."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "Now, to the driver, it looked like the"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "person was wearing a full body tight"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "gray spandex suit, like a wet suit, but"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "lighter. And he appeared to be wearing"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "some kind of oversized helmet or mask"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "that made his head look way too big for"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "his body. And so, you know, the guy is"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "seeing this and he's like, \"What the"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "heck am I looking at?\" So, he's slowing"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "down and he enters this rationalization"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "loop. He's like, \"Okay, you know what?"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "It's 1:30 in the morning. There's some"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "teenager out here in a Halloween costume"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "trying to mess with people. And now he's"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "getting really annoyed and aggravated"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "because he's like, \"This kid has got"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "some nerve. I'm going to have to teach"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "him a lesson.\" No, he didn't he didn't"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "say that, but he's just thinking that,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "you know, whoever this is is going to"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "cause an accident. So, he slows his car"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "down to a crawl, basically just rolling"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "forward because he wants to make sure"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "this kid isn't about to jump out in"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "front of him. And right as he gets to"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "about 20 ft from this thing, it steps"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "out of the grass and onto the asphalt."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "And now he has no choice. He slams on"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "his brakes and he stops right in the"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "middle of the road. And now he's staring"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "at this weird guy waiting for him to do"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "something. You know, wave his arms,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "laugh, run away, whatever it is people"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "like that do. But it didn't do any of"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "that. Now, according to the witness"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "testimony in the Muon files, it began to"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "cross the road, but it didn't walk"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "because the driver watched the figure's"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "legs and they didn't move. The knees did"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "not bend. The feet did not step. It sort"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "of just slid or glided across the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "pavement, moving directly, or excuse me,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "moving from right to left directly"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "through the beams of his headlights."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Now, as you can imagine, seeing this"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "happen in front of you, just like this"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "driver, his rationalization loop is"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "still being like, first off, what what"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "the heck is even happening in front of"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "me? Like, what? And secondly, this kid"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "has got to be on roller skates or"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "rollerblades, something, right? Like,"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "this just this doesn't happen. It"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "doesn't make sense. But then, the figure"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "stopped dead center in the lane, right"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "in front of the car, and it turned its"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "head to look directly at the driver. And"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "in that moment, the rationalization just"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "shattered because he was now about 15 ft"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "away at most, and the headlights were"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "full-on illuminating it perfectly. And"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "he could see that the gray surface"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "wasn't a spandex suit, folks. It was"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "skin. It had texture to it. It looked"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "like wet gray leather. And the head"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "wasn't even a mask. It was this giant"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "bulbous pear-shaped skull that tapered"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "down to a tiny chin. There was no nose."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "There was no mouth. There were just"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "these two massive slanted black eyes"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that wrapped around the sides of its"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "head. This witness later told"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "investigators the eyes didn't look like"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "plastic lenses in a mask. They were wet."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "It looked very real. It looked alive."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "And most terrifying of all was its"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "height. Now, it was standing in front of"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "the car and he realized that it was at"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "least 7 ft tall. Its arms hung way past"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "down its knees. The proportions were"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "very different than a person, meaning"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "that it couldn't have possibly been"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "somebody in a suit. I mean, possibly,"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "but how do they how do they make that"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "happen? But it didn't do anything like"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "it didn't growl at him. It didn't make a"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "sound. It kind of just stared at him and"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "it looked at him with those large black"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "eyes. And when it did that, he felt this"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "wave of absolute primal terror. He"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "wasn't looking at a prankster. He was"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "looking at something that clearly should"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "not exist in this reality. And then just"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "as smoothly as it had arrived, it turned"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "its head back to the left and it"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "continued to glide almost effortlessly"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "across the rest of the lane and it hit"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "the grassy shoulder on the other side"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "and then just into the darkness of the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "fields. Now, obviously, he didn't really"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "want to see where it went. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "care. He was just so like so he just"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "slammed his foot on the gas and he"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "peeled out of there and he drove the"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "rest of the way home doing about 90"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "miles an hour just thinking like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "gosh, what did I see? Like did I just"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "hallucinate that? What even happened?\""}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "He didn't stop until he was inside his"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "house with all the windows and doors"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "locked. Now, usually when people have"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "these kinds of experiences or they see"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "something like this, as you can imagine,"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "a lot of us would keep it to ourselves"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "because I mean, honestly, most people"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "wouldn't believe it. But this witness"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "was so shaken and convinced of it that"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "he filed an official report. And when"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "researchers like Albert Rosales began"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "looking into case 188, they found that"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "this wasn't an isolated incident. That"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "specific area of Ohio has had a cluster"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "of sightings of humanoid like figures"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "that match this exact description,"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "folks. Gray skin, bulbous heads, just"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "unnatural gliding movement."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Unfortunately, the driver never found"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "out what he saw that night, but he knows"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "for a fact it sure as heck wasn't a kid"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "on rollerblades. And because you guys"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "all made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "comment down below, I'm not crazy. So"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "that way I know who made it to the end"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "and who didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "this kind of storytelling where we deep"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "dive into true strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what the"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "heck are you waiting for, man? Smack"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "that like and subscribe button right now"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "for more content just like this. And"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "never forget, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "open mind. And I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Kabi lame. He just sold his company and"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "his full likeness for $975 million to"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Rich Sparkle Holdings. But in this"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "contract, the likeness of which they now"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "own is his face ID, his voice ID, and"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "all behavioral models so they can create"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "an AI digital twin. He literally sold"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "himself every type of likeness that they"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "can do whatever with."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Just a whole other realm, dude, that"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "we're going to go into. We have no idea"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "what that's going to look like in the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "future. Black."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> It's the first deal of its kind to where"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "a celebrity sold their entire likeness."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Almost a billion dollars. Not even"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "speaking a word. Take your money and"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "run. Dude,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> the scary part is they can make it to"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "where you can sell probably stuff that"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "you don't necessarily agree with."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. Bad movies with"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "it, too."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> I don't know how he how he sounds."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> What about this?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> That'd be good. That' be good."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> Hey guys. Hey guys."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Please come near me cuz I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "know what you are. What is gravity?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Earth itself has gravitational"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "anomalies. Gravity anomalies are regions"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "where Earth's gravitational pool is"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "slightly stronger or weaker than"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "expected. Two of the strangest and most"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "talked about are the longstudied anomaly"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "around the Hudson Bay, massive"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "lowgravity dent in the Indian Ocean"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "known as the Indian Ocean geoid low."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "I've just I guess I've always thought"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "that gravity on Earth is just it's one"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "thing uniform. You had Isaac Newton"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "who's like one of the first to observe"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "gravity and like create a formula for it"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> which is insane and no one thinks about"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "it before"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> why does this fall?"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> No one can still explain what is"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "gravity."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Would you want to know? What if the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "answer scared you?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> What if you got trapped like Matthew"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "McConnA in the tesseract? SO LET HIM GO,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "MURF."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The Piermo catacombs. The catacombs of"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Sicily. You think the catacombs of"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "France are spooky? The Piermo catacombs."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Very spooky."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> But it's basically this tunnel system"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "that these monks discover that it"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "preserves bodies incredibly well because"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "of how dry it is. There's thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "bodies that are typically standing"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "upright."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> What? Stop that."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> Fully dressed. There's monks, men,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "women, children, but a lot of them are"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "still wearing like military uniforms,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "wedding dresses, like nuns in their"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "nunnery, whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> That's scary. Literally walking through"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "like a historical timeline."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> They're all mummified. But there's this"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "one, they call her the sleeping beauty"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "of Polarmo. She died in 1920. She was 2"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "years old. But her body is so well"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "preserved that it's been over a hundred"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "years. I know in the Catholic and the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Orthodox church, a lot of them believe"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that there's some saints that when they"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "die, their body just never corrods and"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "never corrupts. She's the most well"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "preserved body in this catacomb. Look at"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the picture. 100red years old,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> dude. This is nutso."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> They've done x-rays. Her organs are"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "still intact and her brain is still"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "preserved."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> How does that happen?"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Imagine walking down that catacomb well"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "lit and then just the power goes out. A"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "crime to feel your way out. No."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "You know, I also haven't heard of"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> the Nevada Triangle."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Have you guys heard of the Nevada"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Triangle?"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> Never."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> I have literally not heard of it until"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "today when I started listening to a"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "podcast about it."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> Okay. Actually, I think I told the story"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> I'm so sorry."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> No, you're fine."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> But that was I mean, it was over a year"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "ago. I feel like"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": ">> I didn't know it until the name came in."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Schmemelly Butley."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Schmelly Butley Butler. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "think we made the joke."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Someone comment when we talked about it."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Someone be like, \"Yeah, 32 week."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> That'd be great.\""}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Um, so there's this region"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> in Nevada called the Nevada Triangle."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Where people in planes disappear"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> in America."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> In America. How"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> if you were to guess,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> it's they're they're saying it's the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "landlike Bermuda Triangle. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> If you were to guess how many planes"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "have gone missing in the Berm Bermuda"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Triangle, how many planes would you say?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> In the Bermuda Triangle, I would say 35."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> I'm going to say eight. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "lower than"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Bermuda Triangle."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> The mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. You"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "think eight planes?"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Eight."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> I was going to go less. I was going to"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "go five, but I thought a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "missing stuff was ships."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> Well, ships and planes, but really just"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "planes because there's you can't have"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "ships in Nevada. How many jobs were"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "doing?"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> Guess how many ships have gone missing"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "in the triangle?"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> 20 planes."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> 20."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> That's high."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> That's high."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> In the Bermuda Triangle."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Who won? I think I was closest."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> I think I was closest."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Eight. 12. You said 35. That's 15. I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "closer."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> Wrong."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Guess how many planes have gone missing"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "and or crashed in the Nevada Triangle."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Ooh. That we know of. Um, golly. 100 of"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> I'll stick with 35. Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "25 2,000"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> I'm on fire. I'm on fire. I'm closer"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "every time."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> What did you say? 100. But I'm still"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "closest."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> But it's 2."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Oh, I'M ON FIRE. I'M AMAZING."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> I'm so closest."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> It's this region in Nevada that"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "basically is a triangle between Reno,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Las Vegas, and Fresno, California. Um"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> I should have guessed 101."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> I should have guessed 101. That's my"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> always do the prices right rules. Golly."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> Um, but this area, this Nevada triangle,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "parts of it are the Sierra Nevada"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "mountains and there's also part of it"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "which is"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Area 51."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> interesting."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> Weird connection. The first plane"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "reported missing in the Nevada Triangle"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "was in 1938."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Do you know when Area 51 started doing"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "their research?"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> 39."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> 1958. Dang it."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> Or sorry, 38"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "years. That's like tells a very"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "different story."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> Yeah. No, 1938 is when they started"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "research. That's when the first plane"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "went missing."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> But it's insane the amount of"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "experienced pilots, even US military"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "planes that just go missing are never"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "found."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Wow. And like there's I mean just"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "countless countless stories, but there's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "this one story in particular um his name"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "is Steve Faucet and this dude was like"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "this adventurer broke hundreds Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "over a hundred world records in aviation"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "ballooning and sailing."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> So he circumnavigated a hot air balloon"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "around the entire world."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> He has on record the longest recorded uh"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "continuous flight which I believe was"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "like 76 hours all by himself. Did they"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "make a movie about that guy?"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Uh I don't know."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Yeah, I think they made a movie."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Um but this dude was an expert in"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "flying. Like he was like they in fact"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "they said that his 76-hour flight like"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "all these there was electrical problems"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "in his plane and uh he had to use his"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "own drinking water to cool down the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "instruments."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> They said when he landed his plane both"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "tires burst. It crashed but he was okay."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "They said that inside of his cockpit for"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "like the majority of the flight or that"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "towards the end was like 130 degrees"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "inside the cockpit."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. Anyways, this dude still"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "flew it, landed it, was fine."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> Expert pilot. He goes flying one day in"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "this Nevada region, this Nevada triangle"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "region, disappears."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> Never heard from."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> No crash site, no nothing."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Nothing. And then it was a they searched"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "the area like tens of hundreds of miles."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "They just combed it."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Nothing. Couldn't find anything. And"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "then it was one hiker a year later was"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "walking and he stepped on something. It"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "was the Steve Faucet's ID."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> And he's like, \"What?\" And then he a"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "couple like um feet away from that was"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "just some cash. And then a mile or so"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "away from that, there was two bones"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "found."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> And those bones belong to Steve Faucet."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "And then they found the plane. But while"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "they found this plane, they found eight"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "planes that they that they never knew"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "disappeared."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> Bro,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "all in the same area,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> all in the same region."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> Were they from the same timeline? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "no. Just spread out."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> Yeah, but there's just these crazy"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "anomalies of just people just like"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "disappearing, never heard from again."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> How does that happen? Well, they believe"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "there's a couple of theories. One is in"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "this area around Area 51, they do a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "of like technical jamming of like"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "coordination, GPS jamming and stuff that"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "would mess people, mess with people. But"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "they also believe there's this weird"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "phenomena with the Sierra Nevada"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "mountains to where the the wind um that"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "rushes over them can like actually suck"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "planes down,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> but that's never actually been proven."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> So, they don't really know why all these"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "planes are crashing and or just missing"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "altogether."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> 2,000"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> over 2,000 have crashed. A good majority"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "of them are still missing."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Maybe if we do a Vegas trip, we're"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "driving."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> Dude, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> Yeah. How? We never heard about that."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Wait, where what airport are you guys"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "flying into in California?"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> San Dieago."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> Let's check that flight route."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> Um, yeah, you'd fly right over Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "You wouldn't fly over that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> but"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "yeah, let's see what else it was. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "there was this one plane, this guy, this"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "was back in the 40s or 50s,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "US military. He was flying a plane,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "crashed, and they searched. They could"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "not find him. They actually didn't even"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "know that he crashed. He just"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "disappeared."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> He showed up, I believe, like 48 days"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "later, stumbling back into town."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> My gosh."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> And he said, \"I crashed my plane in this"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "region, broke my leg. I like carried"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "back my parachute to stay warm because"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "it was a winter.\" And they didn't"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "believe him. They said, \"You sold your"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "plane to Russia.\""}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Oh, man."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> And he's like, \"No, I didn't. I crashed"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "it.\" And they went looking for his"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "plane. Never found his plane. And so"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "they like"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> arrested him."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> Even to his death, they he they believe"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "that he was like"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> they couldn't prove it, but they're"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "like, \"Yeah, you sold your your stuff to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Russia.\""}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> Yeah. That's your go-to. Yeah. It's like"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "if you can't if you can't find the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "excuse, you know, like then yeah, just"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "accuse him of"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Russia. He actually died a year later"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "after coming back or being found. Um and"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "he died from a plane crash."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Dead serious."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> I can't you feeling I feel like you're"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "joking."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> I'm not joking."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> That seems so crazy."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> That's bonkers, man. The big coincidence"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "to me is the 1938"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> them starting the Area 51. And also we"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "have remember that story one obviously"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Love Lock Cave. I wonder how close that"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> But also the other one where the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> guy had like the big portal in the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "ground like a big hole"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> that was in Nevada."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> Was it but it was the Mel's hole. But"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "remember he had a talk with a guy on"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "radio."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> You're right."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> It was somewhere in Nevada."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> Um that is so interesting. The multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "plane crashes reminds me of the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Phoenician scheme."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> How the guy is always getting in plane"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "crash."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> Yeah. literally every time."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> Um, I will say too, obviously this is I"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "would say that's obvious, but in this"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "region there's a ton of like weird"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "paranormal sightings too."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> Like UFOs, UAPs, strange lights in the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "sky, but it's all around Area 51. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "it's like could be secret weapons."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> It's like I don't believe half this"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "stuff, but then if you were like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "you want to go camp in here?\" The answer"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "is no."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> You know what I mean? Like it's just"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "enough to make me there's enough stories"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "to like whether you fully are buy into"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "it or not like if you were to go there"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "for a period of time it's like"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> I I don't know how comfortable I'd be."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> I know"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> once I hit 50 I'm going to do all of it."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> I just sent you guys a picture of the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Nevada triangle of what it makes up."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> That's what I was looking at."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Also goes into California."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Fresno."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> There are some flight paths that cross"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "over the southern little point of it."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Interesting. You guys going straight"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "flight or connecting?"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> Straight."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> You'll probably be good."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> Straight."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> Yeah, but the Nevada Triangle, man."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> That's kind of crazy."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> These are all teeny tiny planes, right?"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> No, some of them are like There's one um"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "in the World War II era. So, in the 50s,"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "I believe, a B-52 bomber went missing."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> And then a search, it's very similar to"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the Bermuda Triangle where they send out"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "B-52 bombers to look for it. And one of"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "those search planes also went missing."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> Wasn't discovered until like I I think"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "the '9s or the early 2000s at the bottom"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "hundreds of feet in the lake."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Oh, weird."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> How does Bermuda Triangle get this huge"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "reputation?"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> But then yet, we don't hear anything"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "about this. I think they"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> of Amelia Heheart."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> Well, they some people speculate she"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "also disappeared in the Nevada Triangle"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> instead of the Bermuda Triangle."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't know where they get that,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "but um"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> maybe they just don't want people going"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "and poking around in that region."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a big region though."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> It is a big region."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> All the way up to Reno. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> That is huge."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> Reno"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> 911."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Um but yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> that's super wild."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> Spooky stuff."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> Spooky. Thank you for sharing. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Did I say nature? I meant butterfly."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "empty your mind. You learn martial arts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "St. Mayus. He was born in Egypt around"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "270 AD. He was raised up as a devout"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "follower of Christ. He's an amazing"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "soldier. Joins the Egyptian army,"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "kicking butt. And then here comes"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Emperor Dialesian. He's a huge"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "persecutor of the Christians, mandating"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "sacrifices and burning of incense to the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Roman gods. And they were doing a pagan"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "festival at this time. And he just"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "started proclaiming Jesus. And he was"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "arrested. They're like, \"Just take a"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "pinch of incense and dedicate it to the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "gods and you'll be okay.\" And he's like,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "\"No.\" So they behead him and this huge"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "church is built around St. Minis's bones"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "called Elamine. Now fast forward to"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "1942. There was this battle taking place"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "in Elamine between the Nazis and the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "British. It was all about oil and"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "territory. The Nazis were gearing up to"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "go attack the British. All the troops"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "got up and they started marching forward"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "and then on the horizon appeared an"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Egyptian soldier on a camel but with"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "heavenly host behind him. up on this"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "hill where the church was standing."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> And they started charging the Nazis,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "this heavenly host with this Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "soldier. And they all freaked and they"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "ran back and they told the general, \"We"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "saw this bright sky, these looked like"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "angels and a man on a camel with"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "thousands of other camels charging us.\""}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "I was like, \"What are you talking"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "about?\" They got back and they continued"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "to battle. The British beat the Nazis at"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Elamine. So that was the turning point"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "in World War II was that battle"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> interesting. That just so happened to be"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "where St. Minus's bones were buried."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Everyone in the Orthodox faith and"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "apparently these Nazis too,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> believe that St. Minus appeared and"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "helped the English defeat the Nazis at"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Lelamine. That is crazy. were amazing."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "OH, WELCOME TO THE SHOW, LADIES AND"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "GENTLEMEN. TODAY, we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "learning about the Sicily Catacombs"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "right there down in Italy. Bodies,"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "hundreds and thousands of bodies"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "perfectly preserved. How does it happen?"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "It's almost as if time doesn't [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "exist. And did a ghostly heavenly army"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "appear to fight the Nazis in Egypt"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "during World War II? Well, the Nazis"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "sure saw something, and I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "tell you all about it."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> And we're going to talk about a Vietnam"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "War medic who's still saving lives. And"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> this podcast [music] is brought to you"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "and powered by Sunday. So, watch this or"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "listen, please."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Oh, she's got manners, ladies and"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "gentlemen. She's got"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Yes, I do."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Yes, I do."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Can you turn my ears up, young man?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Poora."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, that's good."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Actually, a little too loud for me. A"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "little right there."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Make up your mind."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> I'm sorry I'm late, guys."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Make up your mind. Make up mind."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> You gave me a chance to eat my uh Indian"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "gas station burrito."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> Is you got it from the gas station?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Is it yum?"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Burritos at that gas station."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Do they still do chicken?"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> No, the crunchy chicken."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> Dang. That I used to get that once a"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "week when I worked here."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> That was the first gas station. like you"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "let me borrow your truck when we came"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "down here to before we you know after we"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "accepted the job before we moved down"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "here you let me borrow your truck and"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "we're like going to go look at just"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "houses and so we didn't really know how"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "to look for houses so we went and bought"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "a newspaper to find some places for rent"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> newspaper"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> that's I'm telling you dude we were out"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "of it and so we just sat down at that"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "gas station and who knew that I would be"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "falling in love with that gas station"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> dang"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> it's a good one"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> they're so nice"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> good vibes"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> a little racist"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> they are. [laughter] They are."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "They are."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> it's America. You can be whatever you"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "want to be."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> I love the first house you guys rented."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "It was so close to us."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> Yeah. It was just a little weird. Not a"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "great neighborhood."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> Sorry."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Yeah. It's your fault."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> It's actually his mom's fault."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Is it?"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Oh, she found it."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> She helped look for houses. Yeah, she"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "found that one."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> My mom does mess up a lot."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> No, she doesn't. She's a saint."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> I know. He's a saint of a woman."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> She's a wonderful woman."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Heather Hooper."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Easy. She's beautiful."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> All right,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> relax."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Her heart, her soul."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> You know what's funny?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> Wonderful."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> I slept so good last night."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> But I feel more tired than when on the"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "nights where I don't sleep good."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Isn't that weird?"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> It's really annoying."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> How I want to know the science behind"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "that. Like, how does that work? Because"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "there's times where I'll just I'm like"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "I'm going to bed at 3:00. I cannot fall"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "asleep. But then I'm like I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "have the worst day tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> And then you have you wake up and you"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "have 3 4 hours of sleep and you're like"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "I feel great."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> You're still in you're you're still in"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "fight or flight. When you have a good"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "night's sleep, your body goes into"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "recovery mode. It thinks it can be"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "laxidasical and recover."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> Maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> that's not true."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> Call me laxidasical."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Do what?"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> We slept like nine hours last night."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I I woke up I apparently I was"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "sleeping on both my arms. I woke up and"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "they're both numb. I'm like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "I I was uh laying on my desk chair and I"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "had my feet up on my bed and I was there"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "for like 20 25 30 minutes and I set a"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "timer because I had chicken in the"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "oven.\" And so I said, \"As soon as I hear"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "that timer, I got to get up and go.\" As"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "soon as I heard it and I got up and I"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "literally started walking really quickly"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "and I almost ate it because my leg was"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "completely asleep."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> My foot would just adjust outwards as I"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "was like trying to keep it straight. He"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "would just go out and like and it"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "wouldn't stop. It was like for 5"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "minutes. I was like, \"Oh my gosh.\""}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> Yikes."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Terrible."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> He was judged making me nervous"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "yesterday because anything [laughter] he"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "would do when he got home immediately"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "out of breath. Like he would he would"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "make the bed and he would be out of"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "breath. And then"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> this is last night."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Last night. And then he was reading a"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "passage to me of something and he"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "couldn't really read it at all."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "And I was like, \"Did you do a look like"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "analysis? Josh, are you all right?\""}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> Take a breath, please. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> What's going on your head right now?"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Are you okay?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> I worked out so hard."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Like I mean, I worked out for like an"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "hour and a half."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> And I just like anything I did after"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "that, I'm just like,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> that's so funny.\""}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Like I was trying to make the bed, I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "just like I blanket so hard. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> It's funny how that one"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> even though we had weighted blankets. We"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "don't. That one detail changes the story"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "a lot."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> Yeah. It's not just me being [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "fat."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Get home from work and just"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "speaking of working out."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> This day has exhausted me."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Genesis health."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Genesis health, baby."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> We getting in shape."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> We getting in shape. Some people online"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "are saying guys are starting to look"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "pretty good."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> They're only saying that about you. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "let's just be clear."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> Let's just be clear. But"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> not true. Um, I am losing weight. I am"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "down uh what is it? 15 pounds now."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> That's insane. How do you feel?"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Good. I mean, which is a bummer because"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "this is like the weight I started at 3"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "years ago when we had that weight loss"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "competition. I was like, man, I'm out of"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "shape. And so now I'm at that weight I"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "was previously when I thought I was out"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "of shape."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> I feel like you need to see this photo."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "This was sent to me as a congratulations"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "for how far you've come. You were not"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "that man anymore."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> Oh man, that's kind of crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": ">> Dang. Yeah, but also was wearing a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "really baggy thing. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> I'm I'm trying to give you a compliment"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "and I have it strategically."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> No, I don't care. I mean, it's online."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Don't show it. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> No, it's feeling good."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> You look great. You feel"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Thank you. I appreciate you. I feel"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "good. Yeah, I feel a lot better. I feel"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "a lot better just because we have"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "somebody breathing down our neck saying,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "\"Hey, you getting your steps in? You"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "working out? You eating right?\""}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> Yeah. So, Genesis Health, guys."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Genesisalth.com."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "They're helping us out. They're awesome."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "If you use the code ninja on their site,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "um, you get 5% off your stuff. And if"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "you're a veteran, police or first"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "responder, you get an extra discount. I"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "mean, these guys are awesome."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> They're great. We love it."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Is it gen Genesisalth.com?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Gen3health.com."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Yeah, Genesis Health."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> I think that um, Philip there talks to"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "you more often than you and I talk."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, he's a sweet guy. They're"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "besties."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Me and old Phil are tight."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> Um, have you felt his, you know, his"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "bicep recently?"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> I have. Yeah. He comes home from the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "gym, he's like doing this. Immediately"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "takes his shirt off doing one of these."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> A boy. But"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> he's very strong."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> In the office, too. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Very strong. It's crazy."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> Very strong boy."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> I'm getting there. We're trying. But"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "then last night, I was like, can you"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "change the water bottle for me? And"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "you're like, no way. I can't right now."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "And I'm like, what are you getting"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "strong for if not to change my water"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "bottle? And I said I can do it the next"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "day when I recover to benefit him this"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "morning. Maybe this morning."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> Can you turn these down just a notch?"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> Come on."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> He's picky today."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> It's very picky."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> Perfect."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> You know why I was going to the gas"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "station?"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> He literally said, \"I need to research."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Can you go get me a muscle milk?\""}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Don't drink that."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> You had a kidney stone from that."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> We think"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> kidney stones%"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "build up over year. They don't just like"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "have a couple drinks and then it's like,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "\"Oh, it's a kidney stone. It's a"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "buildup.\""}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> You don't You know how much protein this"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "guy is consuming?"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Hopefully one one uh gram per his body"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "weight."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> He's got a little thing growing right"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "now. I bet you I won't speak that over"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> I'm sorry. What is that?"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> Drink a lot of water."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Yeah. What are you doing? What is that?"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> That's your stone that's going to come"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> Oh, golly. Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Drink a lot of water."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> Like a third nipple or something. No,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> he's got the they're throwing. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "coming in."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": ">> Rolling the stone around in my finger,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "which I would never do because you threw"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "that in your kidney. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> E"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> urethra. You still have it?"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> No. Dude, we [clears throat] could have"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "made a necklace out of it."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> No, you eat it like how you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "[laughter] dude. We were watching I was"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "watching Kill Tony and one guy literally"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "pulled out like he was talking. He was"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the comedian and he pulled out his"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "kidney stone and then Lewis J. Gomez"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "grabs it and eats it. It swallows it."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Maybe it was a slide of hand, but it was"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "I mean it's on camera, so it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "And people lost their mind."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> That's terrible. Can you imagine?"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> His name is Louis J. Gomez. He's a uh"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "comedian. Pretty runchy, but he's all"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "over the comedy world."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> I mean, yeah. You would you believe this"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "guy's runchy?"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> People's kidney stones."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> Really took me by surprise. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Did you see Tim Dylan dress up as Barry"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "White?"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Oh my gosh, it was great. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "It was beautiful. I love how his mind"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "works."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> He's so funny."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> He's very funny."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> It's like the first thing that I saw"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "when I opened the app this morning."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "[laughter] I was like,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> what is this?"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Um, hey, do you want a song?"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "All right. Mike Wowski."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Mike,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "I'm watching you."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> It's not good. I'm watching you, Mike"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Wazowski."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Always watching."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Not bad."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. It"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": ">> was really good. [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> Be able to do that voice like while you"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "were in school."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> Was the coolest thing."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> Lily, can you give us a one, two, three,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "four?"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> One, [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "two, one, two, three, four."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Walking through [music] the town and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "looked at my phone. Saw a long list of"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "people's covers blown. Donald [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Trump, George Bush, what a twist. Who"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "[singing] would have thought their names"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "were on that [music] list? Yeah, they're"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "on that list."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Yeah, they're on that list. [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Bill and Melinda [singing]"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Gates, how do you feel? Woody [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Allen, MJ, and [singing] Peter Teal,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Elon Mus, Larry Summers, and JC. A whole"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "lot of names, but [music] it don't"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "surprise me. No, it [singing] don't"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "surprise me."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "No, it don't [music] surprise me."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "No, it don't surprise me."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "No, it don't surprise me."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Don't worry. Don't you fret. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "all these people will pay for their"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "debt. Because if [music] there's one"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "thing I know about the rich and the"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "famed is that they have no problem"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "taking the blame. [singing] No, they're"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "taking the blame."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "They're [music and singing] taking the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "blame."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Yeah. Go."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Oh, they're taking the blame."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "[music and singing]"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Oh, they're taking the blame."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Wow, that was amazing."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Hooray. [cheering and applause]"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Look [screaming] at him go. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> Nice little pec dance, dude."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> Wow, guys, that was really good."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> Little fun. Just a light song about"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "people on the list. What list?"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> Santa's list."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> Santa's list."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> His naughty list. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> Oh boy."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> Is on the list."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> Just good thing everyone's taking"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "responsibility and every, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "facing all the consequences that they"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "need to."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> And that's what I'm proud of. America."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> I'm really happy justice is being served"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "to all those people that did terrible"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> It's really scary, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> Wait a second."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> That's not our reality."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> That's crazy. Actually,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> it's insane. It's crazy that like it's"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "it's truly bonkers."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> I read this morning the DOJ is not"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "pursuing any legal action."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> True."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> With anyone mentioned,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> so what's the point of even talking"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "about it?"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Why am I paying taxes?"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "I just I'm trying to find any excuse"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "[laughter] to not pay taxes."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Crazy."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": ">> No, it's insane."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> It's disgusting, bro. Cannibalism."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> Abuse."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": ">> Children. evil, evil, evil things."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> Yeah, I saw somebody post. They're like,"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "I feel like I need to like grief and"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "mourn like after reading all these"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "things for it's like"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": ">> how do you It's just the most evil thing"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "that we could see and we're not supposed"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "to be seeing this kind of stuff."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> No, it's awful."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> And we're just justif people are just"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "justifying it and passing it over and"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "acting like it's not A BIG DEAL."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> WELL, THE THING IS like you you get all"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "worked up about it and then you go,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "\"What literally what can I do about it?\""}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean on"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> light on fire."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> Should we revolve right now?"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": ">> Light something on fire. We can light"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "something on fire."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": ">> Guys, we're going to light something on"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "fire."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": ">> It's pretty cathartic."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> You're talking like like a silent"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "protest like holding candles and"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "solidarity."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> We're talking about buildings."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> I'm talking [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "full of powerful people. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": ">> Oh, cancelled."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": ">> Man, that is so crazy."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> See something. This is obviously it's"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "not funny to talk about, but this guy"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "was like, \"These are some of the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "freakiest emails I ever seen. Some"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "things can necessitate a phone call.\""}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": ">> I saw one guy, he was just like he's"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "like, \"Man, after looking at all these"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "emails, I'm going to say it. I think we"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "have enough stuff to finally charge"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein.\" [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "It's like, \"Yeah, probably. Probably.\""}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": ">> I saw I saw um that independent"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "journalist on TikTok that I really like,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "the guy with the glasses."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": ">> Yeah. He was talking about, he was"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "shouting out the new leader of the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Conservative Party in England. She's an"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "African-American woman. She was born in"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Nigeria, now lives in London. She's like"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "a nonwoke"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "leader. She's awesome. She called out"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the current sitting prime minister. He"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "was sworn in even though he told them"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "before he was sworn in, he was like,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "\"I'm friends with Jeffrey Epste.\" And he"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "had already been uh sent to jail."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> Oh jeez."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": ">> The prime minister."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": ">> The prime minister. And he he's on the"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "list. The prime minister of"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": ">> England."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> England."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> Dang. Bit sad, ain't it? [ __ ] sad,"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "ain't it? Isn't it disgusting?"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> You're a little bit yucky."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": ">> You're yucky. Yucky mad."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": ">> Uh, speaking of yucky, we have to talk"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "about something yucky."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> Do we? Hopefully not. Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "Depends on what you think. Lily,"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": ">> we got a question."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "There's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "a lot of labeling happening out there."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Your face is crazy [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Crazy. I've never seen you make that"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "face."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Kelsey,"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> we'll just get on with it. Today's"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "question,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": ">> guys. Stop. Please. This is [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "really serious. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Lily, listen. Listen carefully. Listen"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "closely. Open your ears"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "cuz this question is delicate."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Today's question sent in by a viewer."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Is studying"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "abroad good?"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "Is studying abroad good?"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": ">> I can sense where this is going."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> It's a yes or no question. It's very"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "simple. studying abroad. Good."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": ">> I sense where this is going."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> I don't care what you sense. Answer the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": ">> That's kind of shocking coming from her."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": ">> Yeah, you would think."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> Yeah, you would think she would answer"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "differently."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": ">> So, studying abroad is not good. What"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "about culture?"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": ">> What about people"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": ">> expanding their horizons?"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> Expanding their horizons, learning."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> Who's always wanting to travel?"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> Yeah. So, all these foreign exchange"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "students, you like, no,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> you hate foreign exchange students. Is"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "that what you're saying?"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": ">> And they're here on legal terms."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> Although, I think they should pay a"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "million dollars to go to school here."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> Okay. Fishback."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> Listen, I'm being serious."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "the fact that you don't support"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "people coming in to this country or"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "people in the United States traveling"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "abroad"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "to study, I don't know, ancient Rome,"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> literature,"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": ">> literature,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": ">> mathematics,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": ">> philosophy,"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": ">> all of this."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> You just you're probably on this whole"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "agenda, this this like communist like"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "agenda. Read the books, do this, do"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "that. Science is God."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": ">> that's probably what you think."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": ">> It's not. Why do you keep get off your"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "phone?"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": ">> I was going to show you tell you guys"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "about something after this."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": ">> After this I don't think there is going"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "to be an after this."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": ">> Why did you say no?"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": ">> Because I thought that you were going to"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "say is studying [music] a broad as in a"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "woman."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> Are you kidding me? That's disgusting."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> That's disgusting. You were saying am I"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "right? I was right."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": ">> I when you hear broad I would never"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "connect that to a woman. I didn't even"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "think that was even a term. But that's"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "an incredibly derogatory term."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Is that the first thing that you thought"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "[laughter] of?"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": ">> That's the first thing that YOU THOUGHT"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "OF."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO. I"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "KNOW."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> The first thing that YOU THOUGHT OF"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "DAUGHTERS."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": ">> YOU HAVE DAUGHTERS? Oh gosh, this is"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "making me dizzy."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> She hates foreign exchange students. She"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "hates women apparently."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": ">> Women giving them incredibly offensive"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "terms. Yes."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": ">> Like a a broad."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": ">> It sounds even gross coming out of your"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "mouth."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": ">> Yuck. Yucky. Yuck."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "Well, I guess you guys heard here first."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Lily hates foreigners and she hates"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "women. She's calling them broads. Yuck."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "I don't like that. And neither should"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": ">> Let her out."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "[screaming]"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": ">> Did [music] I say ninja? I meant"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": ">> butterfly."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> empty your mind."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "[screaming]"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "I don't think people realize how much"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "mental energy money stuff takes."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's not even just the"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "spending. It's the not knowing. You"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "assume things are fine until you sit"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "down and look. And when you do look,"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "it's usually scattered. 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One dashboard"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "that actually makes sense. That alone is"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "calming. It really is. And everything is"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "in there. Rocket Money automatically"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "categorizes transactions so you can"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "actually see patterns instead of just"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "guessing."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> Which is when reality really sets in."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> Yeah, but in a helpful way. You can set"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "budgets, create saving goals, and get"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "regular reports that keeps you aware"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "without being overwhelmed."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": ">> I like the alerts."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": ">> Same. I use this app and I absolutely"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "love it. Realtime alerts for big"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "transactions or upcoming bills that make"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "it feel like nothing's sneaking up on"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "you anymore. It's less about perfection"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "and more about control. 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Join at rocketmoney.com/ninjas."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": ">> That's rocketmoney.com/ninjas."}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "ROCKETMONEY.COM/NINJAS."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "February has always hit the same for me."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Cold outside, busy schedule, zero"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "motivation to cook. Same. I want to eat"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "better, but I'm not pretending I have"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "time to plan meals all stinking week."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": ">> That's where Factor usually makes sense."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Factor has fully prepared meals"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "designed by dieticians and made by chefs"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "so you can eat well without cooking or"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "planning."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": ">> And this isn't fake healthy food. No,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "they're real ingredients. 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We love you."}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": ">> It's actually a fact. Oh, we love Hagar."}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": ">> Take a breath. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": ">> Focus. Setter yourself. Set her. Set"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "her. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "I just saw this Tik Tok where this guy"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "proposed to his girlfriend or fiance"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": ">> and he was so nervous. As soon as she"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "said yes, he goes he ran [laughter] over"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "to the princess and threw up."}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": ">> Oh my god. Yeah. So, like the really"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "nice like engagement photos are like him"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "like bent over in the bushes throwing"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "up."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:50", "text": ">> That is so funny."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": ">> Really funny."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": ">> Why do you guys get nervous in case we"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "say no or something?"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": ">> I mean, it's just the biggest choice"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "that we've ever made in our life."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:59", "text": ">> Yeah, except giving your life to Christ."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:01", "text": ">> Hear that?"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> That was an easy decision."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> That was an easy one."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": ">> It was."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": ">> Yeah. This one I'm going to have to live"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "with for the rest of my life. And you"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "know, maybe if she Jesus is never going"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "to deny me. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:10", "text": ">> true."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": ">> dude. I was Were you nervous"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": ">> proposing?"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> Oh, incredible."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:18", "text": ">> Were you shaking?"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": ">> Uh, I wasn't shaking, but I was just"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "like just crazy nervous,"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": ">> dude. I was I was shaking. Shaking."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:25", "text": ">> I was just like putting the ring on her"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "finger. I even put the ring on the wrong"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "finger [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": ">> because like we were holding hands on"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "her uh wedding like hand and like and so"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "like I put it on the wrong finger. I was"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "shaking like crazy."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": ">> Oh man. also kneel down too soon cuz I"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "was like walking down an aisle to stop"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "and I kneel down and then I had to do"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "like an extra lunge to get closer"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "[laughter] to her."}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:45", "text": ">> Terrible."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": ">> Have [clears throat] you guys seen the"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "guys in like ghillie suits who do like"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "photography for like wedding captures?"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "If we ever get shut down for any reason"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "if the deep state comes after us and"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "kills our podcast, that's probably my"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "calling to take all my like hunting"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "gear. Dude's like in a ghillie suit with"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "like a 600 mil lens. He's like in a"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "field. So the people like proposing it"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "literally I can't play it. The music's"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "really good but it'll be copyright. But"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "he's in the middle of the field and I"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "mean you see nothing except like a"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "mountainscape. So the people are on they"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "literally think they're on like a date"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "by themselves. He's just in the bushes"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": ">> until someone sees you. They're like,"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "\"Oh my gosh, there is a sniper."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "It's a full on ghillie suit."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": ">> I just imagine someone"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:27", "text": ">> giant lens dude.\""}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:29", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": ">> Just imagine someone proposing on the"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "beach and you're just like on the sand"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "in this full [laughter] ghilly suit."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "It's like we can see you, bro. There are"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "bushes here"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": ">> just buried up to his neck just with a"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": ">> what I was going to tell you guys about"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "is there's this program called Boundless"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "Life. I got an ad for it on"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> Tik Tok."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": ">> And what it is is"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "traveling abroad with your entire family"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "[snorts] and you basically choose a"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "country and you spend three months in it"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "and they have a school there and other"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "families come too and they teach your"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "kids and they have parent classes."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": ">> That's very cool. That's dope."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": ">> I know. I know."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> So, you just literally just pick a"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "country and"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:09", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> wherever they're available."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": ">> I'll text you guys. see it later. But"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "it's called Balanced Life. These people"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "did Portugal."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": ">> Portugal."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:17", "text": ">> Don't we have some friends in Portugal?"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:18", "text": ">> See?"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": ">> Sick. It's It looks like so much fun."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "And the kids learn so much. And then"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "they'll come home and it's like also"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "kind of really safe, by the way. The"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "kids are like super safe. And they'll"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "come home from their school day and"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "they'll be like, \"We went to the market."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "We went here. We went here.\" All these"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "field trips just learn."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:35", "text": ">> That'd be so fun."}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:35", "text": ">> Think about how enriching that is for"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "your kids."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": ">> I wonder how affordable it is."}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": ">> I bet it's expensive, though. You would"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "think it wouldn't be though, like cuz"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "like it's just like living life with"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "other people and"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": ">> if you just keep that program up where"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "you're at."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> What would happen if you're a host"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "family or host school?"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> What would happen if it was like an"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "exchange program? You just take people"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "from dope parts of the world with like"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "really enriching culture and then you"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "drop them in American schools for 3"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "months."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": ">> They have to go learn Common Core for 3"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "months. [laughter] Oh my gosh, what a"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "nightmare."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": ">> They have to get in a fight the first"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "day of school. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": ">> dude. We had four exchange students in"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "Kansas and I'm like, I'm so sorry."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "That's like I love Kansas, don't get me"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "wrong, but I'm just saying we had a guy"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "Owl uh he lived in our house for years."}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": ">> He was from Germany"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": ">> and he's like southeast Kansas."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": ">> That's terrible."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": ">> And it's like it's just I it's a good"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "experience, but there's so much more to"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "America than that."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": ">> You have to you have to hear Matthew"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "McConna's story about going to Australia"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "for a foreign exchange thing. It's in"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "his book Greenlight. It is horrific."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:38", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": ">> He had a terrible time. Oh no."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:41", "text": ">> Their family was nuts."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": ">> They get pretty gnarly though because"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "you never know who you're going to land"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "with."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": ">> Because the families it's not like just"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "like it has to be a a certain standard."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "I don't think there's really a lot of"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "standard for exchange."}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": ">> Speaking of wealth,"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:55", "text": ">> I saw this stat. You ready for this"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "stat?"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": ">> Hit me."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:02", "text": ">> If you were to make $1 per second,"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "$1 per second."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": ">> Mhm. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": ">> It would take you 9.2 in two days to buy"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "a $800,000 house."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "It would take you 2.5 years to buy an"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "$80 million mega yacht. Guess how long"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "it would take to have Elon Musk net"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "worth?"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": ">> What is his net worth?"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": ">> I've seen this. I'm not I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "spoil it."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": ">> Like 300 lifetimes or something."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": ">> I would say"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "90 years."}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:34", "text": ">> 22,830"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": ">> Dang. You made $1 per second,"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:38", "text": ">> bro."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:39", "text": ">> Dude, there's"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": ">> That's wild."}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:41", "text": ">> There's something wrong with that."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:43", "text": ">> Ain't that crazy?"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": ">> That is wild because I've always heard"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "the stat of like uh how many seconds is"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "like a million seconds and apparently"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "it's like it's like 3 weeks or something"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "and a million a billion seconds is 33"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:54", "text": ">> Damn."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": ">> So that's the difference between a"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "million and a billion. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "22,000 years. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": ">> That dude is loaded."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": ">> Yeah. But it's not even just like the"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "ultra rich. Well, I mean, so I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "jumping to sports, but like have you"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "broken like I think we've broken down"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "contracts and stuff with like different"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "professional athletes. How much do you"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "think Messi between uh salary and"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "endorsements, how much do you think he's"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "worth per second?"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:28", "text": ">> More than a dollar."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": ">> I'll do $3."}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": ">> I don't know. 00"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": ">> $412. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": ">> I didn't get the math."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> But never ask her because she always"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "overshoots it. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": ">> Hold on though. I'm usually very close"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "and you say that's no fun. Yeah. Because"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "I almost get it every time."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": ">> Last time you said you were the closest"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "and you were like very very far off. I"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "forget what I was."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:55", "text": ">> You were the closest and you made a lot"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "of fuss about it. But I was also the"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "closest [clears throat] on this one. You"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "see how humbly I took that win?"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "humbling."}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": ">> So much humility, Annie."}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, [laughter] I'm very humble."}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "So, athletes making $4 a second is"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "insane."}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": ">> I wonder if if I did the math, would I"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "make a second? [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:12", "text": ">> That would be funny."}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": ">> It's like negative $5."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": ">> Like, how does this happen? Going down."}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:17", "text": ">> Wait a second."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:19", "text": ">> Have you seen that one with Jeff Bezos"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "walking through the warehouse and stuff"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "and it's like his um like in real time?"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "Take the shot."}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> My mad little"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": ">> uh but it's Jeff Bezos walking and it"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "has his like his actual like real life"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "number going over his head"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:42", "text": ">> and then he's like coming up and you"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "know meeting one of his factory workers"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "and it's just like a slow tick"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": ">> and it's like Jeff Bezos is like"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:49", "text": ">> wow"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> constant and it's like just walking"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "through that you know. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "Appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": ">> Good for him though."}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean self-made millionaire never"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "done anything bad. Speaking of self-made"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "millionaire,"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": ">> did you hear about that movie? Iron Lung"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "movie."}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:01", "text": ">> Uh, no."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:03", "text": ">> Is it about polio?"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": ">> I don't know what it's about, but it's"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "fascinating. It's a YouTuber. His name"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "is uh was it Mark Markiplier? Everyone"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "on"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:12", "text": ">> Markiplier. Yeah. You know. Okay. He"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "made a movie."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": ">> Huge. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:20", "text": ">> Made a movie. Self-funded it himself."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "He did the writing. He did the acting"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "like he was a main character in it. did"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "the editing,"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": ">> paid for marketing, and basically his"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "audience went out and they were begging"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "movie theaters to put his movie in"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "theaters."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": ">> So, he got in over 4,000 movie theaters."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": ">> Jeez, that's huge."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": ">> So, and he spent $3 million of his own"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "money making this movie. Took him three"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "years to make it."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": ">> Opening weekend, made over $21 million."}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": ">> Good for him. Is that bonkers?"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:50", "text": ">> Is that epic?"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:50", "text": ">> Oh, is it really?"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:52", "text": ">> I'll have to look it up. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:53", "text": ">> I'm going Saturday."}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": ">> It's a scary movie."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": ">> But it's cool because it totally went"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "against the whole like you have to find"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "a investors. You got to go through a"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "produc or a um what do you call it?"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Like just a"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> studio. What is it? Yeah. The"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> I can't like to put it to put it out."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:12", "text": ">> Yeah. I can't think of the word."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:14", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": ">> No. It's a uh I can't think of it."}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": ">> This is scary. It's about the rapture, I"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "think. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:22", "text": ">> this is You want me to describe it to"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "you? An ocean of blood. That's how it"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "starts."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:25", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:27", "text": ">> The only hope left after the quiet"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "rapture. In the rustling halls of"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "crumbling space stations, the last"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "remnants of humanity craft a submarine"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "to explore the bleeding depths and weld"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "one soul inside to pilot it."}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:40", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": ">> Weld him in. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:43", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> Scary. This is not an expedition. It's"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "an execution."}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:46", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:47", "text": ">> scary."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:48", "text": ">> Well, good for him."}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": ">> Yeah. [laughter] I mean, that's killer."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "I mean, he's also a huge like he's been"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "around for a long time. He's one of the"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "OGs. So, I mean, like a lot of his fans"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "were probably just, you know, a big"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "reason behind that, too."}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:00", "text": ">> Yeah. I thought it was super cool,"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "though."}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Super cool."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": ">> A movie about Moses the Black."}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:05", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:05", "text": ">> Yeah. It's out of Epic Theater right"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Omar is in it."}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:10", "text": ">> What the heck?"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": ">> I want to see I want to see Send Help."}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "That Rachel McAdams. That apparently is"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "a horror movie, too. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": ">> Send Help. It outdid Send Help in the"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "box office opening."}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> Really? Yeah. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": ">> And send help a $40 million budget."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:22", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:24", "text": ">> How does that I mean, that's awesome."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "Good for him."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:27", "text": ">> Dracula's out. Is it the one that we've"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "been talking about or is there a"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "different one?"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": ">> It's [clears throat] I think it is. It's"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "uh has Kristoff Waltz in it,"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": ">> but I don't know who the director is."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": ">> Dude, Cable Going Away has seriously"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "jacked up us finding out about movies"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "coming out."}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": ">> Like I miss being excited for a movie."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": ">> Same. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "Well, Disney does a terrible job at"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:47", "text": ">> But who does a good job marketing their"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "movies?"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": ">> I mean, the Deadpool Wolverine thing,"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": ">> that was fant. That's that that should"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "be the the playbook of like how to do"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": ">> Yeah. ping pong movie. They did they did"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "some work"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": ">> cuz even um like for Deadpool, even at"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "Walmart, like when you were buying other"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "DVDs, like some old classic movies like"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "Home Alone,"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": ">> it would be the slip cover for the DVD"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "would be Deadpool as Kevin Mallister"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:15", "text": ">> and they would have it for Jaws and they"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "would have it for all like movies that"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "aren't even related."}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": ">> It was pure genius. I think that would"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "be the most fun part about making a"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "movie is like how to push it out there"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "and be creative about pushing. Do you"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "remember Disney used to do that? Like"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "with Lilo and Stitch uh where Stitch"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "would like mess with Beauty and the"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "Beast with the chandelier and they would"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "do that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": ">> Well, do you guys remember I don't know"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "if you remember the story. You would"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "probably remember out of everybody, but"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "in uh Disneyland when Stitch came out,"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "uh they had him tear up the Disneyland."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": ">> And so they had Stitch banners"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "everywhere and the [snorts] whole castle"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "was covered in toilet paper."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "the whole castle. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> And people apparently loved it. But then"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "there were other people that were"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "outraged. Like they spent"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": ">> so much money to come visit the Disney"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "castle and it was covered in toilet"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "paper."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:04", "text": ">> Oh, whatever."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> Yeah, come on. Like that's the point."}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:09", "text": ">> Speaking of that, I'm the only one over"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "here beating this drum about going to"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "Disneyland when we're in California next"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "month. If we have any fans that are in"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "California and work at Disneyland, could"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "you hook us up with some free tickets"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "and we'll hang out with you all day?"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> Yeah. You can stay with us. You can live"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "with us. We'll take you home."}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> We'll take you home in our luggage."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "What's the difference? Isn't it just"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "smaller and in California?"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": ">> Yeah, but it's different. There's a vibe"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "that California totally different."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": ">> California Adventure is completely"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "different than what we have here. Um,"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": ">> Pirates is different."}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:34", "text": ">> I have no dog in the fight."}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:37", "text": ">> Disneyland, it's very similar to Magic"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "Kingdom, but"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> it's very similar, but it's different"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "and it's original and I want to see it."}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> We're definitely going to the zoo first"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "day, right?"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:45", "text": ">> Heck yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:46", "text": ">> Got to go to the zoo."}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> Got to go to the zoo."}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> I mean, we're already in San Diego, so"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "we might as well."}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:51", "text": ">> Do they have a panda? Do we Google that?"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "I'm sure they do."}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:53", "text": ">> My girls want to see a panda."}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:55", "text": ">> They're not going to be real."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:55", "text": ">> Speaking of pandas,"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:58", "text": ">> what?"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": ">> This is a terrible story."}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": ">> What did this panda do?"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> Hey, let's let's be present."}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> I'm just They do have pandas."}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:08", "text": ">> And they have names."}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:09", "text": ">> Of course they do."}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": ">> I can't pronounce them."}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": ">> Anchor man had a panda. That wasn't that"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "a panda. That was the whole thing."}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": ">> I think so,"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": ">> wasn't it? They given birth. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:19", "text": ">> You like pandas?"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:20", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:21", "text": ">> Go away. North Korea."}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": ">> North Korea."}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:25", "text": ">> I heard about this."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": ">> It's terrible."}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> Kim is doing public executions of"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "teenagers."}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": ">> For getting caught watching Squid Games"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "or listening to K-pop music."}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:39", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": ">> And what he's doing is he's having"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "students go out there and watch the"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "executions. Oh no."}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> For ideological education."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": ">> Isn't that nuts? Not to ask a gross"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "question, but what is the means of"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "execution?"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": ">> I don't know. I just It was just public"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "execution."}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": ">> That is horrifying."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": ">> Squid Games."}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:03", "text": ">> I mean, that would be the way to do it."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "But I mean, if you're a crazy dictator"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "like Kim Jong-un."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:06", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. When are we going to end"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:09", "text": ">> And people are like, \"How was he able to"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "get away with this stuff?\" Like that."}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "That's like a Geneva code kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Like we have all these problems."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "We want to insert ourselves in all these"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "other types of wars for over, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "things. And it's like"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> this is being publicly announced that"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "this is happening and yet we're like,"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "you know what? It's just North Korea."}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:25", "text": ">> That's what they do."}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": ">> How about we go in and save them? How"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "about Venezuela raid team?"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:30", "text": ">> Just come in and freaking take care of"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:34", "text": ">> Would China Would China come to defend?"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:36", "text": ">> Yes. Why?"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:37", "text": ">> Cuz they're allies."}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:39", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": ">> That's like if China came in and like"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "started beating up Canada, we wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "be like, \"Well, that's I don't"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:45", "text": ">> I don't know. Canada's messing around,"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "though.\" Hey,"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:46", "text": ">> what?"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": ">> Easy."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": ">> They're being silly geese."}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:52", "text": ">> I don't want them to take Canada. I"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "think it's beautiful."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:53", "text": ">> Silly geese."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": ">> The people are beautiful."}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": ">> Anyways, Kim also sentenced three of his"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "little sister's friends to years in"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "labor camp."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": ">> Gosh."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": ">> For watching South Korean TV,"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> I even have access to it. A VPN"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:11", "text": ">> probably. I don't know. Sneak it in. I"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "know during the I was listening to the"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "SCOP show the um Sean Ryan ironclad"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "[clears throat] and they were talking"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "about how much the CIA was involved in"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "the movie The Interview."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": ">> Like they basically approved the script."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": ">> So funny"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": ">> for the interview. The one where they"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "kill Kim Jong-un."}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:36", "text": ">> And they they even wrote like this will"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "actually be great because then we'll"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "sneak it into North Korea. And basically"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "the people of North Korea will be like,"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "\"Oh yeah, this is terrible that we have"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "this leader.\" And so what they did was"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "they took thousands and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "copies of the interview, tied it onto"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "balloons, and sent it into North Korea."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:57", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": ">> that's what they do, though. They don't"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "pick like like a biography or something"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "like that where like it's Seth Rogan"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> and James Franco."}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": ">> James Franco."}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:08", "text": ">> This is real. Do you have a butthole?"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "Oh, I have a butthole"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:15", "text": ">> and it's working overtime. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": ">> Sometimes I feel like a plastic bag."}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": ">> They won't even get that reference. You"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "know, Katy Perry in North Korea."}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> I know. But yeah, I thought that was"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "crazy. That that episode of Scythe was"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "nuts because it talked about just the um"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "the Department of Defense, the Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "just being because we talked about being"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "involved in Hollywood movies and stuff,"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "but stuff that we're not even like fully"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "aware of of like being a part of the"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "script. like uh Avatar."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:41", "text": ">> They're a part of Avatar."}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": ">> Oh yeah, that movie is political as"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "heck."}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it's this and then um Don't"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "Look Up."}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:48", "text": ">> Leo"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": ">> and just like certain show they're uh"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "Cake Boss."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": ">> I mean that makes sense."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": ">> Cake Italian movie."}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": ">> Like in baking shows like I mean they're"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "literally in every show, every movie"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": ">> twisting stuff around. Well, there are"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "two people there are two groups that we"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "talk frequently about being involved in"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "like the underworkings of everything"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "that we consume and it's one the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "government and two another people of e"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "ethnic conviction and they have"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "historically been known to be the two"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "power players in that industry. So it's"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "like we're we shouldn't be surprised by"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "any of that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": ">> It's amazing they have that much"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "capacity."}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> I know, right?"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:26", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": ">> but it just shows the importance of it"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": ">> like like we just we don't think it's a"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "big deal. It's like no, they care a lot."}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "mass indoctrination. It really is just"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "that deep."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:34", "text": ">> You know what I'm saying? Everything is"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "that [clears throat] deep."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:36", "text": ">> That's and that's where I'm at with this"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "whole list thing."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:39", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": ">> It's just like for years we've been"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "talking about all these conspiracies"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "during co the whole pizza gate thing was"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "coming out. Everyone's like, \"You're"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "insane. You're crazy.\" You have all"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "these child stars talking about like uh"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "Cory Cory Feldman saying, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "it's a huge problem in Hollywood. It's"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "the number one problem in Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "Everyone's like, \"You're crazy. You're"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "blacklisted. Get out of here. You're"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "nutso.\" And now it's like Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "quit. If someone tells me a conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "is not real, I'm g I just don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "care. I don't care how insane it is."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:10", "text": ">> They owe us an apology. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:10", "text": ">> You know what? In fact, yes, I'm going"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "to be waiting for it."}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:13", "text": ">> I saw it was a Tik Tok. It was like one"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "of those mashups and it was all the"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "images of um uh what Matthew McConnA and"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "True Detective like chain smoking with"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "his like crazy hair and he's like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "just got here.\" Everybody's reading the"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "emails are like this. He's like, \"I've"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "been this way. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": ">> I've been this way.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": ">> It's crazy. I mean, I saw e there's like"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "clips of like Alex Jones on podcast"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "eight years ago where the part where"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "IT'S LIKE THE ROB [screaming]"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "AND THE BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:41", "text": ">> AND THEY'RE LIKE THAT'S JUST A"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "CONSPIRACY. HE'S LIKE NO IT'S NOT."}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:46", "text": ">> That was eight years ago."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": ">> Yes. And before Jeff Jeffrey Epste"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "passed away and everything and every"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "like Bill Gates is coming out and"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "talking. He's like I met Jeffrey Epste"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "in 2011 but it's like Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "was you know indicted in like in 2007."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "So it's like you had every reason not to"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "be involved with this guy's like I just"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "went to dinners and stuff. I WAS LIKE IT"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "DOESN'T MATTER."}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> It's like he's he was great with money"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "and like [laughter] he was helping me"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:08", "text": ">> with health."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:09", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:10", "text": ">> It was health. He was"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:11", "text": ">> like donating to like health"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "organizations or something like that"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:16", "text": ">> because he was connected to other very"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "wealthy people and he wanted help with"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "like global health issues and connecting"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "those wealthy people. I'm like people"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "don't get wealthy looking out for other"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "people. I think we're just f we're"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "seeing we're seeing the definition of"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "money is the root of all kinds of evil"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "right now. All kinds. Yeah. The love of"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "money."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": ">> I think we just need to start like again"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "we can't make impact super far from us"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "immediately but we can have impact"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "directly in front of us. And like you"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "look at the stuff with like the"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "Balenciaga stuff, the Drew Barrymore"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "shirt. Like whenever we see that like"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "you want to bring back cancel culture"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "where it matters. like cancel stuff"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "that's very apparently evil and"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": ">> pedophilia like"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "tolerating consuming it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> Like if that if that shows up in a movie"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "it's like oh that was a weird joke. No,"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "don't watch it. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:01", "text": ">> we're done."}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:02", "text": ">> At least Billy Isish is doing the right"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:04", "text": ">> What's she doing?"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:04", "text": ">> You haven't heard about this?"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:05", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:06", "text": ">> Wait."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:08", "text": ">> Oh, this is good."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:08", "text": ">> So [laughter] on on stage at the"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "Grammys."}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:11", "text": ">> Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:13", "text": ">> I mean everyone at the Grammys was"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "wearing like stop Ice, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "whatever. That's a whole thing. We're"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "not going to get into it super"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "politically, but all these musicians"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "were like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": ">> terrible."}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:28", "text": ">> Billy is on stage and she's like, you"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "can't deport people that are on stolen"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "land."}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:31", "text": ">> No one's illegal on stolen land."}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:33", "text": ">> No one's illegal on stolen land. And"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "every like yeah [groaning]"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:39", "text": ">> speed of garbage [applause] is like"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:42", "text": ">> but through that the indigenous tribe"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "Native American tribe came out and they"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "said well Billy Isish your house is on"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "our stolen land."}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> The Tonga tribe I think is what"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": ">> like her house is specifically on like a"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "reservation or something or like"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:53", "text": ">> land that was seized"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:54", "text": ">> from that tribe."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:56", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:56", "text": ">> And so like what are you going to do"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "about it?"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:42:59", "text": ">> Dang. Say it again. Like when can we"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "move in?"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:02", "text": ">> Oh man. Okay. I thought you were going"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "to say something like she stood up for"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "like something different like"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:09", "text": ">> No, no. It just completely backfired on"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "her pis cuz it's like okay cool. Even"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "the logic on it. How is land stolen if"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "borders shouldn't exist?"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "Dang."}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:19", "text": ">> The whole thing's crazy."}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:23", "text": ">> It's funny at this point."}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:25", "text": ">> It's It's bizarre. It's so bizarre and"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "it seems fake. It's a whole scup. I"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "fully believe that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": ">> But what is crazy is that there is this"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "website that is it's like an anti-ICE"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "website where I mean just thousands and"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "thousands of people. They're"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "coordinating. They're doing all this"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "stuff. It's like an encrypted website."}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "Someone went in and hacked it"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": ">> and sent every single person's"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "information to the FBI."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:50", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": ">> That was on the anti-ICE website. And so"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "these people are like freaking out."}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "They're getting texts like that your"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "phone, your number has been sent to a"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "government agency"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:00", "text": ">> and they're like, \"Oh, golly.\""}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:01", "text": ">> Well, because they're making mistakes. I"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "mean, like I I think we talked about"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "that video where they they pinged"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "someone's car. They labeled it as an ICE"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "and it was just like a normal civilian"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "and they were like harassing this person"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "and they were like not even ICE."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": ">> It's crazy. That's so that's"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": ">> all. It's like if it's like what can you"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "do? And that's why I love having Jesse"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "on where he's like"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": ">> it's you're it's not that's not reality."}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:25", "text": ">> Like the reality is he's like if you"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "were to go out into public and interact"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "with anyone"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> there's no hostility. No."}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:32", "text": ">> There's no like I hate you this blah"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "blah blah. He's like they they're trying"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "to force that on to you. I know."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": ">> Where it's like hate your neighbor, hate"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "your fellow countrymen. Like there's"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "this division, be on this side, don't be"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "on that side. It's like it's not real."}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "If they can keep us divided in that"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "manner and distracted, it's just going"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "to pull us away from also the fact that"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "they're all molest or crazy pants and we"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "need to revolt and burn their houses"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "down. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:58", "text": ">> That's why."}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:00", "text": ">> But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:01", "text": ">> if we all like band together, dude, we"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "could do something. Stop paying our"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "taxes, maybe. You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> I wish. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "I wish."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": ">> I love that. That's the motivation."}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "That's the not justice, not freedom."}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "We want to get away from the taxes."}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:16", "text": ">> It's crazy, man."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": ">> It's so crazy. Also, Billy Isish won"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "like song of the year for a song I've"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "never heard. And I looked in the"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "comments. I'm like, \"Am I crazy? I've"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "never heard.\" And everyone's like, \"I've"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "never heard this song.\""}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:29", "text": ">> It's called Wildflower. I'm like, \"I"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "don't think that that's the biggest"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:32", "text": ">> Yeah, that's it."}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": ">> Yeah, that is."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:37", "text": ">> Um, speaking of Tik Tok,"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:41", "text": ">> you know, um, I'm sorry, I'm totally"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "gonna uh KBI lame. Kabby Lane,"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:44", "text": ">> the African-American man that's always"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:46", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The silent guy."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> Yeah. He had a company and he just sold"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "his company to a another company called"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "Rich Sparkle Holdings."}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:01", "text": ">> Which is a is a Hong Kong based NASDAQ"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "listed holding company. He just sold his"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "company and his full likeness to this"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "company for 975"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "million. $975 million."}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "But in this contract,"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "the likeness of which they now own is"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "his face ID."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:25", "text": ">> His voice ID and all behavioral"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "behavioral models so they can create an"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "AI digital twin."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": ">> Ew. So they he literally sold himself"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "every type of likeness that they can do"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "whatever with"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:37", "text": ">> almost for a billion dollars."}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:41", "text": ">> Almost for a billion dollars. And they"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "um said that they they expect to make or"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "generate $4 billion just from his"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "likeness in annual sales."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:50", "text": ">> Doing what? Doing what?"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": ">> Oh, I mean he's huge."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": ">> Ads doing he's huge. Like worldwide."}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "This guy really worldwide."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": ">> So just like advertising."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:00", "text": ">> Yeah. And they just But they can take"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "his voice and put it into any language,"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "which will be super weird because his"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "whole character was silent."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Almost a billion dollars not even"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "speaking a word. I mean, I mean, I think"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "I'd do that."}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:08", "text": ">> Take your money and run, dude."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:12", "text": ">> Rich Sparkle. What was it?"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:15", "text": ">> Holdings or Rich Sparkle Holdings."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": ">> That's If Ada made a company, that's"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "what she would do. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:18", "text": ">> Rich Sparkle."}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:21", "text": ">> She said that you guys can start"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "referring to me as Unicorn Sparkle. Did"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "she tell you that yet?"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:24", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:26", "text": ">> Yeah. um"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:28", "text": ">> that do you remember seeing him in the"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "Orlando airport that one time, right?"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:29", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:31", "text": ">> When they were filming, we're like,"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "\"Wait, I I could never remember his"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "name, but it's like always the guy that"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "did like, you know, they would show"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "hacks and he would just go like that all"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "the time.\" I was like, \"Oh man, there he"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "is.\""}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:39", "text": ">> How scary."}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:41", "text": ">> That's kind of nuts. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "you're going to do besides advertising."}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "It's like, what? How could that go"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "wrong?"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": ">> I mean, they they can sell it in movies,"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "they can sell video games. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:50", "text": ">> it's endless."}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:51", "text": ">> Yeah. And you're not going to get any of"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "that money ever again."}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": ">> No. Because now it's like now it's like"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:56", "text": ">> you just contract this company out for"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "you know an ad spot."}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": ">> But they can also I mean the scary part"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "is they can make it to where you can"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "sell probably stuff that you don't"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "necessarily agree with."}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:05", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. Bad movies with"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "it too."}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean a North Korean ad."}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:15", "text": ">> Like public public executions 12 o'clock"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "either or else."}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": ">> Yeah. That's gonna be that that's a just"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "a whole other realm, dude, that we're"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "gonna go into. We have no idea what"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "that's going to look like in the future."}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": ">> It's the first deal of its kind to where"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "a celebrity sold their entire likeness."}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": ">> Their entire likeness. Even their voice."}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "I don't even know how he how he sounds."}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:33", "text": ">> Like this. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:35", "text": ">> That'd be good. That' be good."}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:36", "text": ">> Hey guys. Hey guys."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:37", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": ">> that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": ">> Um I'll show it on Patreon because it"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "just has a song behind it that makes a"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "lot makes it a lot better. But did you"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "see India's motorcycles parade?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:49", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": ">> They had like a freedom parade. It was"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "like their Independence Day. Pretty"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "dope. Like just fullon motorcycle"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "tricks. Like it makes you believe"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:55", "text": ">> Say that weird."}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:56", "text": ">> Yeah, you do."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:58", "text": ">> Motorcycle."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:48:59", "text": ">> Motorcycle. I don't know. I ter I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "terrible at speaking. What do you"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "expect?"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:03", "text": ">> No, you're great at speaking."}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": ">> No, I'm not. Um, but it just makes you"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "believe the Bollywood movies even more"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "to the point where it's like"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:10", "text": ">> I don't think they're faking it. I don't"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "think this is CGI. I think they're"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "literally pulling this off."}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:14", "text": ">> That's so funny."}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:14", "text": ">> RR,"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:15", "text": ">> dude,"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:16", "text": ">> is a fantastic movie. That is good. But"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "I like to"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:18", "text": ">> I was this close to watching that with"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "the girls last night cuz I'm like I"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "think this would just be I think it"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "would be"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:22", "text": ">> so much fun."}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:23", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:24", "text": ">> it's very violent."}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:26", "text": ">> Yeah, I think they're okay with that."}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:29", "text": ">> Do you see that um that Japanese"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "volleyball player"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:31", "text": ">> that accidentally hits"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:33", "text": ">> the forehead slide?"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. So there's this guy on"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "this other side of the court and he uh"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "he's like they're like pros at"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "volleyball."}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": ">> The guy serves it all the way across the"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "um the court and it just whoops this"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "lady in the side of the face. one of the"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "one of the coaches on the other team."}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "And what he does is he sprints. I'll"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "send the video. He sprints and then"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "slides on his face down against the"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "court kneeling to her and then like"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "literally full planking and then gets up"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "and starts bowing and she's bowing and"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": ">> slid like 20 ft."}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:05", "text": ">> It and it wasn't like a comical thing"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "for them. It was just like truly"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": ">> apologizing. It was incredible."}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:11", "text": ">> You got to start doing that when we get"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "in a fight. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "across the carpet."}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "[gasps]"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": ">> Bunch of apologies. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "Find out you're wrong in an argument."}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "You're like, \"Dang it.\" All right. Here"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "I go."}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:24", "text": ">> Here we go. Are you sending the the"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "motorcycle thing more?"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> No. I wanted to play with just the"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "music. I guess we could put music over"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "it, but it's just it's just so much fun."}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "Oh, yeah. We can watch it on Patreon,"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "too, I guess. Oops."}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "That's so funny."}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "Yeah. Look at this. Uh, I sent I sent"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "you the motorcycle one."}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:46", "text": ">> Is he crying?"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:47", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:50", "text": ">> Oh, he's laughing."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:53", "text": ">> Don't do the music."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": ">> It just gets more wild as you go on."}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": ">> That is so awesome."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:59", "text": ">> Why aren't we doing stuff like this?"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:01", "text": ">> That is awesome."}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:03", "text": ">> It's the coolest thing."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:04", "text": ">> Um, somebody said, \"Maybe the anime"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "doesn't exaggerate"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:06", "text": ">> that.\" Yeah, that's what everyone's"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "saying. And they're like, maybe the"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "Bollywood [laughter] movies are really"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "actually just"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:11", "text": ">> Oh, are you guys Did you guys move on? I"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": ">> Yeah, we're on the India."}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": ">> I was watching the volleyball thing"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "still."}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:19", "text": ">> That's so awesome."}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. How Mad Max is that?"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:23", "text": ">> If you keep going, they just get they"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "get more wild."}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:29", "text": ">> The world."}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:32", "text": ">> Yes, [laughter] that one is so funny."}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": ">> I don't know what gets them inspired to"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "do it, dude. But I freaking love it."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:36", "text": ">> Amazing. I mean, it's just freedom, I"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "guess, right?"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": ">> 77th Republic Day on January 26th with"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "its annual parade."}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:44", "text": ">> Well, speaking of amazing."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": ">> Did you guys hear about that Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "papyrus that it talks about giants?"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:50", "text": ">> The Egyptian what?"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:50", "text": ">> Papyrus?"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:52", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:53", "text": ">> That talks about giants."}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:54", "text": ">> I mean, that makes sense. That's how"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "they made the pyramids, right?"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:57", "text": ">> Yep. And I'll tell you all about it"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "right after this, so don't go anywhere."}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": ">> Hey, love birds. It's your merchant"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "apparel adviser and love expert, Rave"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "Damy. Everyone knows this month is"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "special. Love is in the air, hope is"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "alive, and Sunday cool is already"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "prepping for your summer orders. That's"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "right. We all know you guys are freezing"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "like an iguana in a palm tree right"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "[music] now. But we also know you have"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "some merch that you need for your summer"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "events. And it's never too early to get"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "started. Whether it's a summer camp or"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "business event or heck, a VBS, you know"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "what? We got what you need to make sure"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "it's an event no one's going to ever"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "forget. 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It's here, baby. 1 800 8650726."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "Give me a call today."}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "Is that good? I just got a text from the"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "girls and they're like, \"We want a"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "capiara as a pet.\""}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:03", "text": ">> A what?"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:03", "text": ">> Capibara."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:05", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> Capiara."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "The"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": ">> You don't know what a capy bar is?"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": ">> World's largest rodent."}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:13", "text": ">> Oh, they look like the like giant uh"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "beaver thing, right?"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": ">> It's like you were saying [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": ">> what if a beaver and Arthur became a"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "real creature."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": ">> Oh. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": ">> Have you guys seen the movie Flo?"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:28", "text": ">> the cat one. Oh, so"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> So good."}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:33", "text": ">> Hey, get get on this."}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": ">> There's a cappy bar in there."}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:37", "text": ">> hop on that, mate."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> I'm chewing."}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> No one can hear you."}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:42", "text": ">> I'm chewing."}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": ">> They want to hear you chew."}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "can't be baras."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:53", "text": ">> You know about them."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": ">> Play on that. Please"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": ">> don't talk in the microphone when you're"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "chewing. You just said"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": ">> she's like a pirate."}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": ">> Relax."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:13", "text": ">> man. I got some cool stories, you guys."}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:13", "text": ">> Dude, I feel so lucky to be on this"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "podcast,"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:16", "text": ">> dude. Blessed"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:17", "text": ">> with our friends,"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:18", "text": ">> with our family."}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": ">> Let's just say, let's just pause for a"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "second. We really are blessed to have"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "this podcast"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": ">> beyond. I'm not joking when I say that."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:26", "text": ">> I know you're joking. I know you were"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "joking when you said that."}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:28", "text": ">> I know you you aren't grateful for this."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:28", "text": ">> Be serious."}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:30", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:32", "text": ">> we are so blessed to have this podcast."}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:33", "text": ">> We are. This is literally what we prayed"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "for. We didn't even know it."}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:39", "text": ">> And we're blessed that you guys actually"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "listen to us, which is crazy, but I I"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "appreciate it. It's so cool."}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:43", "text": ">> What a cool thing."}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:45", "text": ">> The flipping best."}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": ">> Too bad this is the last one."}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": ">> Yeah, that is unfortunate."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:49", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": ">> can I tell you guys something?"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:52", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": ">> QUESTION."}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "CORNER WITH LILY WHERE THE QUESTIONS ARE"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "FRESH ON HER MIND."}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:57", "text": ">> I WAS going to tell you something"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "different."}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:00", "text": ">> Okay, do it now."}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": ">> I was on my phone last night and just"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "for a split second, I was in my text"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "messages going to go read text messages"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "for my cousin."}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:08", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> For a split second, I could only catch"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "this because I'm such a fast reader."}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "The my messages, you know, gives you a"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "little highlight. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:23", "text": ">> they were all in code and it said"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "compassionate, loving, all these things."}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "It was AI reading my messages."}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:28", "text": ">> Yeah. Giving a breakdown"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": ">> and doing a synopsis of them."}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:32", "text": ">> Switched."}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:33", "text": ">> What's the question? I don't get it."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:33", "text": ">> I was just telling you about what's"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "going on."}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:34", "text": ">> I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "kidding."}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:36", "text": ">> That's weird."}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:37", "text": ">> It is weird."}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:38", "text": ">> Have you Have you Is that the first time"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "you saw that? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": ">> Yeah. It's weird. Like it"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": ">> it kind of breaks down your whole"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "message and gives Yeah. Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:45", "text": ">> I know. does it with the if you have"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "your headphones in."}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:48", "text": ">> I didn't have headphones. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "tried that. If it like sends a picture,"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "it says picture of a little girl."}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:53", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:53", "text": ">> Like playing with bubbles."}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:59", "text": ">> All right. Here's my question."}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": ">> That's it, guys."}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:02", "text": ">> We find it. Actually, you guys are going"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "to think it's boring, but I think it's"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "fun. Which cartoon traumatized you as a"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "kid, and specifically which episode?"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:10", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": ">> I know exactly."}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": ">> Me, too. I wonder if ours is the same."}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "The courageous cowardly dog."}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:17", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:21", "text": ">> Return the slab."}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:24", "text": ">> Return the slab. When uh what's it what"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "was uh what was Eugene? Was it Eugene?"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:27", "text": ">> No, his name was Eustace."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:28", "text": ">> Eustace. We live in Eustace."}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Which is so weird."}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": ">> But it's E U S T A C E."}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Yeah. Eustace finds a slab"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "like in the backyard or something and"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "loves it. And then it's just like this"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "like 3D animation which was not normal"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "for the show at all. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": ">> And just that ghostly figure out in like"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "the desert. Return the slab."}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": ">> I just remember that show scared the"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "crap out of me as a kid. And I really"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "never watched it."}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:57", "text": ">> There was an episode where they're being"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "hypnotized and then he's going fla fla"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "fla like the like the dessert like the"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "Cuban dessert. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:04", "text": ">> So scary."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": ">> Yeah. I can't remember. There's got to"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "be other ones that uh Anastasia was"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "always really dark, too, because it's"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "literally showing like the underworld"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "and witchcraft."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": ">> Oh, and with Rasputin,"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:17", "text": ">> who was a real person,"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:19", "text": ">> but also loved the the bat, the white"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "bat had the funniest voice."}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:21", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:22", "text": ">> Rasputin. Like, I didn't even I can't"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "even do it. Like, it was such a good"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "voice for that character."}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": ">> Murphy."}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:31", "text": ">> No, Rasputin. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:34", "text": ">> Anastasia."}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:37", "text": ">> We in Russia. Did you watch cartoons?"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": ">> I literally grew up on [sighs and gasps]"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "Looney Tunes."}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:41", "text": ">> Heck yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": ">> So, Bugs Bunny being super racist was"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "always weird in my household."}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": ">> Um, no, I think it was Spongebob and the"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "weird like uh just I can't remember. I"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "just remember there was a couple"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "episodes where they would like change"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "the animation and just like a weird dark"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "hit. I don't I don't remember being like"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "super unsettled but being like"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> what world the the rock bottom one,"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "right? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:04", "text": ">> that one was kind of creepy. That one"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "was kind of"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:06", "text": ">> I thought it was hilarious."}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:07", "text": ">> It's definitely funny, but it's like"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "darker."}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": ">> Can I [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "such a good episode?"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:17", "text": ">> The girls have never watched one"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "episode. Kelsey's like she's like, \"It"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "makes it makes makes you dumber.\" I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "like, \"No, it doesn't.\""}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:22", "text": ">> My mom or I had friends whose mom said"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "the same thing, but I think Spongebob"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "made me funny."}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:29", "text": ">> Yeah, I totally agree. And I think those"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "aren't exclusively like oppositional"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:32", "text": ">> like"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:35", "text": ">> dumb and funny. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "You can be dumb, but also very funny."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:38", "text": ">> We could all be right here."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:39", "text": ">> No, but we they haven't watched any of"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "the movies ever. I don't think I've ever"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "watched any of the movies as well."}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": ">> The first one is fantastic. Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "Watch it with your children this"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "weekend, please."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:48", "text": ">> The the newer one looked funny, too. The"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "one they just came out with like a month"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "ago."}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": ">> I don't like the animation style."}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:54", "text": ">> Yeah, it's definitely different. I can't"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "wait to see that movie, The Goat."}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:58", "text": ">> That the Spider-Verse people made it and"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "uh they made the other movie, too. But"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "that one looks really good."}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": ">> Cool. [snorts] It's being a good here"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "with that beat. [crying]"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:13", "text": ">> Oh, very good. Hey, Andrew got a real"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:15", "text": ">> Sorry. Please show us. Make us feel"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "something inside."}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:22", "text": ">> Make us throw up. Please don't do it"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": ">> We need to get one of those inception"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "trombone noises."}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> I feel like that would be good. Can you"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "hear me that cord?"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:41", "text": ">> So, this is this is not this is this is"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "a crazy thing. Taylor actually sent me"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "this video, but the I'll let the video"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "play and then I want to tell a story in"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "regards to the video. It's freaking"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "crazy."}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:50", "text": ">> Are you ready?"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": ">> Three, two, one, go."}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:58", "text": ">> This is what I think it is."}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": ">> It is."}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "Oh yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": ">> Oh god. Oh, please take the camera."}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:10", "text": ">> Can we show that? I'm I'm going to have"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "to blur some of it."}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:13", "text": ">> Is it ice skate kind of?"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:14", "text": ">> It's on YouTube."}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:16", "text": ">> Yeah, the ice skate literally"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": ">> What happened?"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:21", "text": ">> Okay, so the the photo I sent you is is"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "the guy, if you watch that video, the"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "guy who comes running in, his name is"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "Jim Pizza uh Putelli. So he is the"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "athletic"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:32", "text": ">> Sounds like the guy that ran for Pope."}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": ">> It [laughter] does, right? So he's the"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "athletic trainer for this hockey team."}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "He's also a war veteran from the Vietnam"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "War. This happened in 1989 in Buffalo."}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "And so what happened is he gets done"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "with the war, you know, seeking"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "employment as a medic. He begins working"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "for this hockey team. And when he was in"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "Vietnam, he was like directly"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "responsible for the 20 people in his"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "platoon, their health, their well-being."}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "And when you're in Vietnam, I mean,"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "you're dealing with Yeah. trauma."}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:02", "text": ">> Like he actually got sent back um like"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "on life support or something like that."}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "Like had to get medevaced."}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": ">> So he was like in it in it. Had seen"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "stuff. Well, anyway, so he's back, you"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "know, thankfully still had his like, you"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "know, coherence about him and he's"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "working for this hockey team. Sees this"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "happen and I don't know if these medical"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "trainers have spiky shoes or whatnot,"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "but that dude comes onto the ice moving"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "knowing like saw it happen and"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "immediately this is bad. Well, he gets"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "there and sees that an ice skate has not"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "only cut the corateed artery, but has"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "also severed part of the jugular. And"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "I'm talking this dude was about to bleed"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "out"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:42", "text": ">> on the ice."}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:45", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": ">> Throws his hand into the hole"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> and clamps the vessel."}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:50", "text": ">> Gosh."}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": ">> Literally holding it there. And then"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "notices he's got one of them, but"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "notices the other one that's clipped is"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "continuing to bleed. So his medical"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "training kicks in. He puts his knee on"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "his collar bone over his heart and puts"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "all of his weight there. So, his heart"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "slows down and he doesn't literally he's"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "like, \"I'm going to slow you down so you"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "can't breathe and you can't uh continue"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "to pump because you're going to die.\""}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "Finally gets him, you know, get him off"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "the ice. Doctors finally show up and"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "they take him to the hospital. The dude"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "survives 300 stitches"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": ">> to close that up."}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": ">> Word. But literally because the dude had"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "all that training, had seen all that"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "trauma, knew exactly where. Think about"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "what that you can't see."}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:37", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:38", "text": ">> You know what I mean? So he literally"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "think about what"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:41", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:42", "text": ">> And he threw his hand in and knew"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "exactly [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "knew exactly what he was doing."}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:46", "text": ">> Holy smokes."}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:48", "text": ">> Saved his life."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": ">> What are the odds of that?"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> That's wild."}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:53", "text": ">> And it ch it changed like rules for like"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "protective gear and all of that. Like"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "you listen to the commentators or like"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "turn the cameras off. Like that wasn't"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "something that had been seen. You know,"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "this isn't like"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": ">> this isn't me celebrating gory story."}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "This is me celebrating a veteran who"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "just absolutely crushed it."}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:06", "text": ">> Did the guy ever play hockey again? You"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:09", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:11", "text": ">> I definitely would not."}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": ">> Never again. If he had a wife, she would"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "be like, \"You can never do that again.\""}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:17", "text": ">> So, I'll I am going to blur part of that"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "making it apparent what's happening. But"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": ">> you can find it on YouTube."}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:23", "text": ">> Yeah. What a what a guy."}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": ">> Have you guys seen the movie Lawless?"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "Lawless"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:27", "text": ">> with Shila Buff [snorts] and Tom Hardy."}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:27", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, that"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "happens. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:31", "text": ">> he gets his throat cut and and he lives."}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "You think there's no way he's gonna"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "live?"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:35", "text": ">> Yeah, that one's a wild movie, though."}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:36", "text": ">> That's a movie I've actually seen."}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:38", "text": ">> It's a good one, right?"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Really really good,"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:42", "text": ">> dude. The the Brass Knuckles."}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:43", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:45", "text": ">> I am bothered."}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:46", "text": ">> You haven't seen you've seen that, but"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "you haven't seen Aladdin."}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:48", "text": ">> Yeah. What the heck?"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:49", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:50", "text": ">> It's cuz you don't like foreign films or"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "what?"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. All right. Dang. Speaking of"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "foreign films,"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:57", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:58", "text": ">> I have something foreign that should be"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "turned into a film."}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:00", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:02", "text": ">> nice."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:03", "text": ">> These Egyptian papyrus. Papyrus."}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:08", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:10", "text": ">> Called the Anastasia one. This is not a"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "new thing that's come out. Apparently,"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "this was discovered in the 19th century,"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "so 1800s."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:15", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": ">> Why they're talking about it now, I"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "don't know, but it's everywhere."}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "[clears throat] But this papyrus found"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "in Egypt, the Anastasia number one is"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "about 3,300 years old. So it was like"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "written in the 13th century BC."}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "And it's basically describing these"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "desert people. And these desert people"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "are called the Shashu. Where was it? Um"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:41", "text": ">> Shashu."}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Shashu or Sha Yeah. Shoshu. Shoshu"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "or Shashu. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:49", "text": ">> Um, but it describes these people as"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "being 4 cubits to 5 cubits tall, which"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "is 6'8 to 8'6t"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "tall and how they were a ravenous people"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "and like were just they were desert"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "dwellers in like"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:03", "text": ">> so they were in Egypt."}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": ">> They were in the deserts around Egypt."}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "Um, and I think that's like one of the"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "only mentions of giants like in the"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "Egyptian"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:14", "text": ">> archives or"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:15", "text": ">> archives or whatever of what they've"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "found."}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> So I'm like, \"Oh, wow. This is really"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "interesting.\" Um, and so I'm like, \"Has"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "is there any other um hieroglyphics or"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "papyrus or whatever talking about the"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "Shouhu people?\""}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": ">> And there is. There's two other places"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "where it talks about it. One"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "um is on these uh these walls. One of"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "the most famous depiction comes from"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "Ramsay II in the Carno temple and it"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "basically has the carvings of the Shoshu"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "people and describes them as desert"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "people with long hair and beards. Uh"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "they they were captured in military"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "campaigns. Um labeled explicitly as"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "Shashu of the deserts. Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "portrayed them as nomadic raiders living"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "in Cyani Edom in southern Levant."}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "uh constant trouble on trading routes."}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "I'm like, \"Wow, that's very"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "interesting.\""}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:14", "text": ">> But then there's another temple, the"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "Solib inscription. So, the Solib Temple"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "um under Aminaopetep,"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:20", "text": ">> good job."}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": ">> Aminoep the third. I'm just going with"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "that. I know that's completely wrong,"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "but it describes him as the shashu of"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "Yahweh. Oh,"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:34", "text": ">> so it says Shashu of It doesn't"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "explicitly say Yahweh. It says YHW."}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "And so they just assume that was Yahweh."}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> But these people were living around,"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "they're described as the Shoshu of"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "Yahweh living around Mount Cyani."}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:47", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:49", "text": ">> But and so I'm like, well, there's no"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "way that there are giants. Basically, it"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "comes down to the shu was a just a broad"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "term of people that were hostile towards"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "Egypt, Egyptians that lived in the"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "desert. So, desert dwellers."}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:02", "text": ">> Got it."}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": ">> So, but I thought that was incredibly"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "interesting that the shoou of they call"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "them the shoou of Yahweh, but like the"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "Egyptians feared them when they were"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "living in around Mount Si because they"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "would um just attack raids and stuff"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "like caravans and whatnot."}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm like, this is just it's just"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "out. It's cool to see"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:28", "text": ">> the story of the Israelites in scripture"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:29", "text": ">> outside of the Bible."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:32", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:34", "text": ">> But the Shoshu giants, that was a crazy"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "thing to me where it describes them as"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "almost 9 ft tall bearded men."}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:39", "text": ">> Scary."}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:40", "text": ">> Terrorizing people, but they're also"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "captured in some parts."}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:43", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:43", "text": ">> I thought that was pretty rad. So, it's"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:47", "text": ">> The shoo just help me understand."}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "They're they're being said that that was"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "the Israelites. That's what these people"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "describe the Israelites."}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": ">> It was a broad term used for desert"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "dwellers. I see. So it could apply to"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "giants, but also seem to apply to the"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "Israelites"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:59", "text": ">> like when they were living in the"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "wilderness or Wow."}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Shashu or"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:05", "text": ">> Shasha. Shashank Redemption."}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": ">> Sh."}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "You're out. Go. It It makes me wonder"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "while they were like wandering though,"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "you know, following pillars of,"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:16", "text": ">> you know, fire, whatever else, like"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "who's to say someone wasn't up on a"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "ridge being like, \"What the what the"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "what the [laughter] seriously?\""}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:23", "text": ">> You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:26", "text": ">> Yeah. And if you uh I remember learning"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "in college that like Moses would go, you"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "know, he'd be leading the people to a"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "certain place and there'd be obviously"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "an easier route to go,"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": ">> but he always chose very specific routes"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "because he was such had such a military"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "mindset. He knew"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:42", "text": ">> the routes to go and which not to go"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "and, you know, to be safe and keep his"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "people safe. So, it's interesting to see"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "if there were like there were people"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "like that back then where,"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:51", "text": ">> you know, he was trying to avoid"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "M"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:53", "text": ">> they were trying to attack or anything."}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "It's crazy."}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:56", "text": ">> How many cubits was it again?"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:08:57", "text": ">> 6 to9."}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": ">> 67."}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:03", "text": ">> 67. Uh it said four to five cubits tall."}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:04", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:08", "text": ">> What's a cubit?"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:09", "text": ">> Uh about 18 in"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "um according to this. I was trying to"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "compare him to Goliath um who was six"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "cubits um and a span. So Goliath would"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "have been just a little larger then. But"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:23", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:23", "text": ">> Have you girls watched David yet?"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:23", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:24", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:25", "text": ">> It's pretty good."}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:27", "text": ">> Will it hold their"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:29", "text": ">> music? Awesome. I think so. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": ">> Yeah. It's very It's very kiddish."}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:31", "text": ">> Kidish."}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:35", "text": ">> When were when were the Israelites"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "dwelling amongst giants [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "though? I know. They go fight towns that"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "had giants."}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:44", "text": ">> They go into Canaan."}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:47", "text": ">> Okay. So yeah, it talked about the um"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "uh Rafaim giants."}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:51", "text": ">> So it says that they were the last of"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "the giants. Last of the Nephilim. The"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "Raphaim."}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:56", "text": ">> Spooky dude."}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:58", "text": ">> It talks about King"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "Og. No, not Og. Who was it?"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:02", "text": ">> I know what you're talking about."}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:02", "text": ">> Aog,"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:05", "text": ">> huh?"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:07", "text": ">> The story with Ehad."}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:10", "text": ">> No, it talks about that king that had"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "the the metal bed that was like 13 feet"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "long."}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:15", "text": ">> And how he was the last of the Rafi"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "Rafaim."}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:17", "text": ">> Anyways,"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": ">> it's ringing bells, but I don't feel"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "confident enough to assert."}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:22", "text": ">> Spooky."}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:24", "text": ">> I got another Egyptian story."}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:26", "text": ">> Hit me on an Egyptian trail, dude."}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": ">> About a saint."}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:29", "text": ">> Okay. All right."}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:33", "text": ">> Saint"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "uh how do you say his name? Minus. St."}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "Mus"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:38", "text": ">> or Mannus. Is it Mayanus or Minus?"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:41", "text": ">> Spell it."}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:43", "text": ">> Minus touch. Just the minus touch."}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:45", "text": ">> Just the meanest touch."}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:47", "text": ">> St. Minus."}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "Um he was born"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:50", "text": ">> in Egypt around 270 AD."}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:53", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": ">> And this was under the Roman occupation."}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:57", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:11:00", "text": ">> His family were devout followers of"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "Christ. And his mother actually it"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "starts off with his mother like not"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "being able to conceive a child, weeping"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "and praying to God for a child. And God"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "literally speaks to her and says, \"You"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "will have a child and he'll do great"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "things.\" And then he's conceived. He's"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "born. He's raised up as a devout"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "follower of Christ. He loves Christ."}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "He's an amazing soldier. Joins the"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "Egyptian army under Roman occupation."}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "And it's just like phenomenal. He's"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "kicking butt, doing great things."}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:35", "text": ">> And then here comes um what's his face?"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "Emperor Dialesian."}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "terrible emperor, just a huge persecutor"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "of the Christians,"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:46", "text": ">> mandating sacrifices and burning of"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "incense to the Roman gods. So he fled to"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "the mountains and basically became like"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "the first desert father"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:54", "text": ">> like one of the first desert fathers"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "like became a monk lived there for"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "several years"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": ">> but then he received a they say either a"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "dream or a vision that Jesus Christ"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "appeared before him and said go forth"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "and confess my name before men and you"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "will receive the crown prepared for you."}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "So what he did, he went into the town"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "and they were doing a pagan festival at"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "this time and he just started"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:18", "text": "proclaiming Jesus. It's like Jesus is"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "Lord. All your gods are false. They're"}, {"start": "01:12:18", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "demons. And he was arrested obviously."}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "And then he was tortured and they're"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "like, \"Make a sacrifice or no, just just"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "take a pinch of incense and dedicate it"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "to the gods and you'll be okay.\""}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:34", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:34", "text": ">> And he's like, \"No.\" And so they behead"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "him."}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:36", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:40", "text": ">> Done. Became a martyr."}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, and then it was years later,"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "the patriarch of Alexandria"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "received this vision from God that he"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "was supposed to go collect the bones of"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "St. Minius"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "and then go and basically build a church"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "around these bones. A church dedicated"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "to Christ as this martyr who died for"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "the faith of Christ."}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:06", "text": ">> So cool. And so he goes, he finds where"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "the bones are, puts them on a camel,"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "he's bringing it, and the camel just"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "stops in the desert and just sits. And"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "the camel refused to get up. He's like,"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "\"Okay, well, maybe this is where God"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "wants me to put the bones.\" So he buried"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "the bones, built a shrine around it."}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "They built this little church around it."}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "For years, it was a pilgrimage for"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "people to go around. And apparently,"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "there was many miracles that were worked"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "at this church. M"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": ">> then years and years and years and years"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "later the Egypt was coming over this"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "rule and the Christians were being"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "persecuted, churches were being broken"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "down, burnt down and so they moved the"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "bones to another place"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "called Elamine."}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:48", "text": ">> Elamine"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:50", "text": ">> Elamine and that's where they still are"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "to this day. And this huge church is"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "built around St. Min's bones."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:54", "text": ">> Really"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:56", "text": ">> super cool."}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:56", "text": ">> Still standing today. is still standing"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "today."}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:13:58", "text": ">> That'd be so cool to visit."}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:01", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:02", "text": ">> Now, fast forward to 1942."}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:05", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:06", "text": ">> This is during the time of the Nazis."}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:09", "text": ">> The Nazis."}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:13", "text": ">> And there was this battle taking place"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "in Eladamine between the Nazis and the"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "British,"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:18", "text": ">> which pause there was news to me. I"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "didn't know that they went down that"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "far. I didn't know that they went into"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "Egypt and stuff like that. It's"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:22", "text": ">> not that far."}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:23", "text": ">> The Nazis."}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, that means another"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "continent."}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:28", "text": ">> It was all about"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:29", "text": ">> oil and territory."}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:30", "text": ">> They were trying to take everything and"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "precious things, right? Cuz they stole a"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "lot of precious artwork and antiques and"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:35", "text": ">> They did. They got some weird stuff,"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "too."}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:39", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": ">> Um, but Elamine mattered because it was"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "the last defensible choke point before"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "Cairo, before the invasion of Cairo,"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "taking over Cairo."}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "um uh it was at risk if the Nazis took"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "it over with all this rich oil that the"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "Nazis would have obtain obtained and um"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "basically whoever won this battle at"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "Elamine"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "would it just shifted everything"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:02", "text": ">> held control. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:06", "text": ">> And it was the second day of the battle"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:09", "text": "the Nazis were gearing up to go attack"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "the British. All the troops got up and"}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "they started marching forward. And then"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "on the horizon appeared this they c they"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "said an Egyptian soldier on a camel but"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "with a heavenly host behind him up on"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "this hill where the church was standing."}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:28", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:30", "text": ">> And they started charging the Nazis."}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "this heavenly host with this Egyptian"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "soldier"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:36", "text": ">> and they all freaked and they ran back"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "and they told the general there we saw"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "this bright sky these looked like angels"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "and a man on a camel with thousands of"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "other camels charging us that's why we"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "dipped out like what are you talking"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "about but they got back and they"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "continued to battle the British beat the"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "Nazis at Elamine and Churchill went on"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "to say Before Alamine, Llamine, we never"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "had a victory. After Elamine, we never"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "had a defeat."}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:07", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:09", "text": ">> So that was the turning point in World"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "War II was that battle."}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:12", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:14", "text": ">> That just so happened to be where St."}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "Minus's bones were buried. This whole"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "story about St. Minus performing many"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "miracles. And they say that St. minus"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "whether or not you believe in saint"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "intervention and stuff like that they"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "said that he is basically the saint of"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "protecting those in war"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:31", "text": ">> like that's what he's known for."}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:37", "text": ">> And so everyone in the Orthodox faith"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "and apparently these Nazis too believe"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "that St. Minus appeared"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:44", "text": ">> and helped the English defeat the Nazis"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "at Elamine."}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:46", "text": ">> That is crazy."}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:47", "text": ">> Crazy."}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:49", "text": ">> Super recent too."}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:49", "text": ">> Yeah. 1942. That's wild."}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:51", "text": ">> Golly, could you imagine how scared"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "you'd be?"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:55", "text": ">> And this was the artwork in one of the"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "churches. I think this is in Mount Aos"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "that they did a depiction of it."}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:00", "text": ">> Very cool. Why don't we send it?"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:01", "text": ">> You were right. This needs to be a"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "movie."}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:04", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:06", "text": ">> It's called Lord of the Rings. On the"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "third day, look to the east. Gandalf"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "comes rushing down to the battle of"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "Fhelm's Deep."}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:15", "text": ">> Look at that artwork I sent you."}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:20", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "That's so cool. It's literally what I"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "picture in my mind."}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:24", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:26", "text": ">> that's so neat. And the tanks, the the"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "juxaposition of the angels and then the"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "tanks. So cool."}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:31", "text": ">> Good."}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "Pretty rad. That is so rad,"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": ">> dude. Studying stories of some of these"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "martyrs and these saints, it's really"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:40", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:42", "text": ">> Very cool stuff."}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:43", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:44", "text": ">> And Yep."}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:46", "text": ">> I love that. Where'd you hear about"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "that? My favorite YouTube channel,"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "Harmony."}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:50", "text": ">> Harmony. Yeah, that's cool, man. A lot"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "of good stuff."}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:53", "text": ">> He's amazing at storytelling."}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:54", "text": ">> They did just put out a video called"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "Youth of the Apocalypse."}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:17:59", "text": ">> That's like a year old."}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:00", "text": ">> Oh, it's 45 minutes long and it's"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "probably the scariest video I've ever"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "seen in my life."}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:03", "text": ">> What's it called?"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": ">> Youth of the Apocalypse. It's just"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "basically talking about our age, like"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "where we're at in this generation. this"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "generation and how there are many"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "antichrists right now and just the lies"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "and deceptions that we're being told and"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "how it really it truly is"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:21", "text": ">> demons"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:23", "text": ">> and calling upon the rise of suicide in"}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "teens and calling it the last genocide."}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:27", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:30", "text": ">> Basically, the evil is so permeated"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "throughout the youth that they think"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "it's better to kill themselves than turn"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "to Christ."}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:35", "text": ">> You know."}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:36", "text": ">> Yeah. It's terrible."}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:39", "text": ">> And Yeah. That's It's a sickness, dude."}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "It's crazy. It's literally just an"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "epidemic in our society. That's wild."}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:46", "text": ">> It felt like um I kept thinking like"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "Josh wouldn't get the context cuz I"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "don't think he's seen any of these, but"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "the way that he did the video felt like"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "American Horror Story. It was like"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:55", "text": ">> it was like almost seemed like a"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "brainwashing. It was like flashes of"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:58", "text": ">> You would love it. I just put on my"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "watch later, so I'm going to watch it."}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:01", "text": ">> It Yeah, it was it was powerful. I"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "thought it was good."}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:06", "text": ">> There was one story that was really"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "intriguing from it. It's pretty dark,"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "but I'll just say it because it was"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "ahead. It was pretty cool. basically"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "talking about witchcraft and he makes a"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "distinction between um softcore what do"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "you call softcore oultism versus"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "hardcore"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:24", "text": ">> softcore being like I'm dabbling in"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "witchcraft"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "this"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:28", "text": ">> and then astral planning and like trying"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "to do all this stuff and then hardcore"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "being like full-on Satanist"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:37", "text": ">> and um just how softcore occultism is"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "just interweaved within music and movies"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "and like how it's just integr ated"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "throughout society. And then it talks"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "about this one teenager who basically"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "got into witchcraft."}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:50", "text": ">> He call Yeah. Wikah specifically. It was"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "led by two women."}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": ">> Two women. And he was like in his high"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "school or college age"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:55", "text": ">> and his friends brought him into it."}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": ">> Yeah. And he said like he felt he felt"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "like magical like he felt like wow this"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "is like real power and stuff. and talked"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "about one night he went to sleep and he"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "woke up because he had to pee. And he"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "said, \"But I was paralyzed. My whole"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "body was paralyzed and I couldn't move."}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "I could only open my eyes.\""}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:18", "text": ">> And all of a sudden, he said, \"It's like"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "my body, like astral planning, like I"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "left my body. I was above my body and"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "instantly these masses of demons grabbed"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "onto me.\" And one of the first things"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "they said is, \"You must be the stupidest"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "human to ever exist."}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "And they said, \"You you've been dabbling"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "in the stuff that you shouldn't been"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "dabbling in. You are condemned to hell."}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "You are going to hell.\""}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> They said, \"But we'll make you a deal."}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "If you kill yourself,"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "we'll let you become one of us to where"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "you torment other people instead of"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "being tormented,"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:54", "text": ">> instead of us sending you to hell to be"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "tormented forever.\" And so he's like,"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "\"Okay, I'm going to kill myself.\" And he"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "said, 'But before I did, the one thing I"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "thought of, I said, 'Jesus, if you're"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "there, help."}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:04", "text": ">> And he said,"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:09", "text": ">> gone."}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:11", "text": ">> Just turned bright like just pure white."}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:14", "text": ">> And then he's like, how? How was this?"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "And then he heard God said,"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:17", "text": ">> I just needed you to ask for me."}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:20", "text": ">> And he's like, and then I just turned my"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "whole life to Christ after that."}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> Shoot, man."}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:23", "text": ">> Like,"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:24", "text": ">> golly."}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:26", "text": ">> That's in the video. And it's like it's"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "on that same tone. It's like really"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "dark, really scary, but like with like"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "the hope of Christ and stuff."}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:33", "text": ">> Yeah. That's what we got to realize just"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "how good and great God is. There's the"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "opposite of that"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": ">> and it exists and it's real."}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:40", "text": ">> Jeez, man. That stuff is so heavy."}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:41", "text": ">> I know. It's really"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": ">> We just Yeah. We just think it's just in"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "music and it's not a big deal. It's it's"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "in our culture and it's just a part of"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "our"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:52", "text": ">> life and we don't think anything of it."}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:53", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's scary. I mean like it's I"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "kind of I make fun of my grandma"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "sometimes cuz she was like Pokemon is"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "like bunch of demons and stuff"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:02", "text": ">> but in the same tone she's like yo"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "there's some music you listen to that's"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "written by a cultist that's it's like"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "they have this specific way of writing"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "stuff to where it's like"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:13", "text": ">> it is evil like you're indoctrinating"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "yourself with evil thoughts and stuff"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "like that and I'm like"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:16", "text": ">> I believe that."}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:18", "text": ">> Yeah. And that's just wisdom. That's"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "just stuff that you get older and you"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "realize and obviously you could take it"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "far away"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:24", "text": ">> from like the point of Jesus. I think"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "that's where we miss the mark sometimes"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "is like giving God we we we think"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "Satan's this ultra powerful thing that's"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "comparing you know comparing to God and"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "you're like oh they're on the same level"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "as you know as far as like power but"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "it's like no it's not."}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:39", "text": ">> But you also just don't dabble in it."}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "You know if you have convictions run"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "from that."}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "And and two, like if you're a person"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "who's been in a place where you feel"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "like you need to call out for help, like"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "I think it's important to know that"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:54", "text": ">> while Jesus can in an instant intervene,"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:57", "text": "I've in my life, I've found him to be"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "more present in daily walking. So like"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "there's nothing wrong if you found"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "yourself in a dark place to just start"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "stepping away from it and watch him"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "slowly show up cuz I never want someone"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "to be like in a dark place and then to"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "be like, I need you now. and then a day"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "later everything feels the same. Like"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "sometimes it is like that. Like I think"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:18", "text": "that's important to know. Absolutely. He"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "can show up in an instant and often will"}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:20", "text": ">> but uh"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:23", "text": ">> and prayer prayer is huge."}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. But like walk walk with him."}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:25", "text": ">> And I actually I'm reading this book"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "right now. It's an Orthodox book about"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "this pilgrim basically his question is"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "like he's he walks all across of Russia"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "and his one question is like how do I"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "pray unseeingly? Scripture calls us to"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "pray unceasingly. like what does that"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "mean? So this book is about it's really"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:46", "text": "cool but it specifies and it gets into"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "like he talks to these monks and like a"}, {"start": "01:23:46", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "a great practice to start doing is"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "saying the Jesus prayer because what"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "it's doing is professing Christ and"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "professing your need for him and the"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "fact that you're a sinner. Like it's"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "this"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:23:59", "text": ">> it's this beautiful"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:03", "text": ">> there's humility in it."}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:05", "text": ">> Yeah. which actually we went to uh"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "divine liturgy this last weekend and he"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "he taught on where the Jesus prayer"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "comes from which is really cool. It's"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "that story where it's like uh the"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "Pharisee and then the tax collector and"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "the Pharisee is like look at everything"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "I'm doing you know this thing and like"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "zero"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": ">> at least I'm not like these people"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:22", "text": ">> at least I'm not like them and then the"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "tax collector says Lord Jesus Christ"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "have mercy on me a sinner"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:28", "text": ">> and it's like"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:30", "text": ">> be like this man you know and that's the"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "prayer the prayer is"}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:35", "text": ">> Lord Jesus Christ have merc Lord Jesus"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "Christ son of God have mercy on me a"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "sinner"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:40", "text": ">> and just just re even repeating that it"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "it creates the mantra in your head of"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "like giving glory to Christ who is our"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "only savior and it's it's just a really"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "cool prayer. So like if you don't know"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "how to pray that's a great way to start"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "praying"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:52", "text": ">> for sure% and it just and it just"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "doesn't matter on where you're at in"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "your life too because we expect Jesus to"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "show up and everything to get better."}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:25:00", "text": ">> Yeah. You know, like we that the verb"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "Jeremiah, what is it? 29:11, you know,"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "for I know the plans I have you, plans"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:05", "text": "for prosper. It's like that gets read at"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "every like graduation and like it's a"}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "happy golucky thing."}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> But he's literally talking to people who"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:14", "text": "are in captivity, you know, and then"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "later on he tells them, you know, grow a"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "garden,"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:19", "text": ">> you know, you know, have children, do"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "all these things, but they're like"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": ">> in captivity? He's like, why are you"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "telling us to settle down"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:27", "text": ">> in captivity? He's like, no. He's like,"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "\"This is where you're you're going to be"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "delivered, but right now you need to"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "adjust where your heart and your"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "perspective and be where you're at and"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "accept that God has you where he wants"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "you right now"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:40", "text": ">> and love him and accept him. Pray to him"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "constantly"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:44", "text": ">> and just Yeah. Just wait for him. Wait"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "for him."}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:46", "text": ">> So cool."}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:47", "text": ">> Speaking of"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:48", "text": ">> good stuff."}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:49", "text": ">> Speaking of kind of cool, but also"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "really creepy.\""}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:55", "text": ">> The Piermo Catacombs. Dude, you're"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "killing the pronunciation."}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:26:00", "text": ">> I like the accent with it."}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:01", "text": ">> There was our girls are at a new co-op"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "and there's a guy who's uh teaching them"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "music and stuff. They bring in a couple"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "to teach music and he's he has a a very"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "Italian accent and then Demiy's like,"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "\"Are you speaking Spanish?\" He's like,"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "[laughter] \"No, it's Italian.\""}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "He has a very thick accent."}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:18", "text": ">> They sound like very dissimilar."}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:21", "text": ">> Yeah. So, Aida's really into like"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:23", "text": "practicing her Chinese. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "She's convinced she speaks Chinese, too."}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:27", "text": ">> That's great. [laughter] How do you"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "know? You don't know if she is. I know."}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "We saw"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:31", "text": ">> It sounds a lot like Spanish, but"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:32", "text": ">> we saw Jace, too. Whatever when we came"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "in last week, and she was like,"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "\"Kunichiwa, [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:38", "text": ">> Filipino.\""}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:39", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:42", "text": ">> all right. So, what's the name of it?"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:42", "text": ">> [ __ ] Catacombs."}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:44", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:46", "text": ">> Catacombs of Sicily."}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:47", "text": ">> I love a catacomb."}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:49", "text": ">> I love catacombs."}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:49", "text": ">> You think the catacombs of France are"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "spooky?"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:55", "text": ">> Very spooky. The Piermo catacombs. Very"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:57", "text": "spooky. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:26:59", "text": ">> Weren't they Wasn't there a time when"}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "they were trying to get people to buy in"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "there?"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:02", "text": ">> To buy?"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:04", "text": ">> You remember how they have those like uh"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "things going on in Europe where they're"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "like, \"Come live here and we'll pay"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "you.\" I swear they were talking about"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "that area."}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:10", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:12", "text": ">> Could you imagine signing up? They're"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "like all the tourist stuff. Yeah. But"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "it's like they show you all the pictures"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "of it like, \"Oh, you know what? I got to"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "go to Sicily. We got Let's move the"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "family.\""}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:18", "text": ">> That's so funny."}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:20", "text": ">> Live in the catacombs. [laughter] But"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "it's basically this tunnel system that"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "these monks discovered that it preserves"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "bodies incredibly well because of how"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "dry it is."}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:35", "text": ">> And so in this catacomb, this tunnel"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "system, there's thousands of bodies that"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "are typically standing upright."}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> What? Stop that."}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:44", "text": ">> Fully dressed of like what they died."}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "And so there's like there's monks, men,"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "women, children. They said virgins were"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "buried there."}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:51", "text": ">> How do they know?"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:53", "text": ">> I mean, it's probably documentation."}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:55", "text": ">> Okay. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> Um, but a lot of them are still wearing"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "like military uniforms, wedding dresses."}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "Uh, there's like nuns in their nunnery"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:03", "text": "gowns, whatever they're called."}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:03", "text": ">> Scary."}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:04", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:05", "text": ">> very,"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:09", "text": ">> but they started doing this in the"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "1600s. So bodies basically it's like"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "it's a timeline of people that are like"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "very well preserved in this catacombs."}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:18", "text": ">> You're literally walking through like a"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "historical timeline."}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:21", "text": ">> Yeah. And they're I mean they're all"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "mummified like they're just like but"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "there's this one"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:29", "text": ">> and this is a very sad thing but it's"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "it's this uh they call her the sleeping"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "beauty of uh pal Polarmo"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "uh sleeping be of Polarmo. This little"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "girl, she died in 1920."}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "She was two years old."}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:47", "text": ">> Oh, stop then. I can't."}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:49", "text": ">> But her body is so well preserved that"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "it's been over a hundred years. Look at"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "this. And I only say this because in I"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "know in the Catholic and the Orthodox"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "church, a lot of them believe that"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "there's some saints that when they die,"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "their body just never corrods and never"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "corrupts. And this little girl, she's"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:08", "text": "been in this catacomb. She is the most"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "wellpreserved body in this catacomb."}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "Look at the picture."}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:14", "text": ">> Oh, I don't want to."}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:16", "text": ">> A hundred years old."}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:17", "text": ">> Dude, this is nutso."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:18", "text": ">> And they've done X-rays."}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:21", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": ">> They've done X-rays and her organs and"}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "her brain her organs are still intact"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "and her brain is still preserved."}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:32", "text": ">> Wow. How does that happen? And all it's"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "it's incredibly sad, but it's like it's"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:35", "text": "also like"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:37", "text": ">> I think it's just kind of cool. It's"}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "just like how especially in the"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "perspective of like how"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:43", "text": ">> some believe that saints when they died"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "like their bodies never decay"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:45", "text": ">> and this 2-year-old's body has not"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "decayed."}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:48", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:48", "text": ">> I just thought it was crazy. It's a"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "spooky place."}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:51", "text": ">> Why are they putting people in this hole"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "in this?"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:53", "text": ">> It's just a burial place."}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:55", "text": ">> Oh"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:58", "text": ">> yeah. I'm looking at just scrolling"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "through pictures. It's because it's like"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "a welllit all the walls are white and"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "it's scary, dude. There's all there's"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "bishops."}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:08", "text": ">> Golly, man. They're all standing up."}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "That's"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> not a place where you want to spend the"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "night, I would say."}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": ">> No. I watched the movie As Above So"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "Below. It's all about like it's"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:18", "text": "literally a horror movie, but it's in"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "the French catacombs and it's"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "terrifying. And I can imagine this is"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "this is even scarier."}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:23", "text": ">> Is there a monster in there,"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:25", "text": ">> dude?"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:29", "text": ">> Like ghosts and stuff. Yeah. Like, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:31", "text": ">> imagine walking down that catacomb well"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "lit and then just the power goes out."}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:33", "text": ">> I would cry."}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": ">> I would cry."}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:39", "text": ">> You got to feel your way out."}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:41", "text": ">> Anyways, I know that was a sad story"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "about that girl, but she is actually,"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "they say, the most preserved human"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "bodies in history."}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:46", "text": ">> Wow. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:47", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> very cool."}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:50", "text": ">> Yeah, that doesn't look like a person"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "that's been dead for the past hundred"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "years."}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:55", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:56", "text": ">> that's wild, man. Nice."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:30:59", "text": ">> And you could just take tours of that"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "place. No, thank you."}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:01", "text": ">> Nope. I probably"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:02", "text": ">> I think I was pronouncing it wrong the"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "whole time."}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:05", "text": ">> Pal Oh, jeez."}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:06", "text": ">> I'm ready."}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:07", "text": ">> Po."}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:08", "text": ">> I was going to say I'm ready for a ninja"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "trip, but I guess we're getting ready to"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "go on one."}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:10", "text": ">> Polarmo."}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:12", "text": ">> Polarmo."}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:12", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what it looks like. Polmo."}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:14", "text": ">> Was I saying that?"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:16", "text": ">> I think so. But you just had an accident"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "on"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "[snorts]"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:23", "text": ">> anyways. Imagine if Luca the movie went"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "they went down in the catacombs."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:31", "text": ">> I love Luca. That movie is like up there"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "for me in favorite Disney movies ever."}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:35", "text": ">> I think Yeah, obviously the environment"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "helps out a ton. It's such a fun cool"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "place."}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:40", "text": ">> The music and also the memories. Aya"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "loved that movie as a baby. We her first"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "birthday was Luca."}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:45", "text": ">> Yeah, that was cool. And she she turned"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "five, dude. She's going to be five when"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "we go to California on our way back."}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "That's going to be so fun. We literally"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "are flying on her birthday."}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:52", "text": ">> We got to make it super special."}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:54", "text": ">> I know. I love that girl."}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:55", "text": ">> We'll get the flight attendant to get"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "the plane to sing happy birthday or"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:31:57", "text": "something."}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:31:59", "text": ">> But then they give her the microphone."}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "Can you imagine? [laughter] Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:02", "text": ">> Chinese."}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:03", "text": ">> She's like pow."}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:06", "text": ">> She's going to take it and do that heavy"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "breathing into like"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "[laughter] for the whole airplane."}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:12", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:12", "text": ">> we're going down. No, later. It is stop."}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:15", "text": ">> There's a bomb."}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:17", "text": ">> You guys are a third of the way to her"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "driving."}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "Stop it."}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:20", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": ">> That's She's going to be a liability."}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:23", "text": ">> I never thought about that. Yeah, her"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "literally half and half."}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:25", "text": ">> True. She's a way better driver than I"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "am."}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:28", "text": ">> Yeah, way better."}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:29", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:30", "text": ">> she knows where the brakes at."}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:31", "text": ">> Look at this. Look at that. Look at"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:34", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "nice. Feeling better?"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:39", "text": ">> A lot better. Although, I think it's"}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "starting to fuse where I can't extend"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:43", "text": ">> That's a bummer."}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:45", "text": ">> You know what makes me really mad?"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:49", "text": ">> Yes. What is gravity? [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:50", "text": ">> I know we've talked about it before."}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:55", "text": ">> But I just watched the Y files. He did a"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "video on what we talked about the um"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:32:58", "text": ">> August 12th."}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:00", "text": ">> August 12th, the day where Earth lose"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "gra loses gravity."}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:05", "text": ">> It's it's what they're alleging."}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:07", "text": ">> Yeah. It's a it's complete whatever."}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "Video is really good. It was very fun to"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "watch."}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:13", "text": ">> Um also really spooky."}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:13", "text": ">> Uh but at the end he's like this is all"}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:13", "text": "fake."}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:16", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:21", "text": ">> of course. Um but what he mentioned on"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "there was the fact that earth itself has"}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "gravity uh gravitational anomalies."}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "So basically"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:32", "text": "um gravity anomalies are regions where"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "earth's gravitational pull is slightly"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "stronger or weaker than expected. Not"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "enough to feel directly but measurable"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "by satellites and precision instruments."}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:43", "text": "Two of the strangest and most talked"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "about are the longstudied anomaly around"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "the Hudson Bay."}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:47", "text": ">> Where's that?"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:51", "text": ">> Like New York"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "and a massive lowg gravity dent in the"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "Indian Ocean known as the Indian Ocean"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "geoid low."}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:33:59", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:01", "text": ">> And that just that messed with my head"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "cuz I'm like"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:04", "text": ">> I've just I guess I've always thought"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "that gravity on Earth is just it's one"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "thing uniform. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": ">> but there's parts of Earth to where"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "gravity is just slightly different."}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:14", "text": ">> I guess that makes sense, right? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:15", "text": "it can't be it can't be perfect all the"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "way around. I mean, I'm trying to think"}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "of like I mean, you just think about how"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "you know we have different"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:23", "text": ">> low points and high points"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:24", "text": ">> like for waves and stuff like that and"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "like currents"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:27", "text": ">> same thing almost like you just have"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "different areas like it would be like"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "okay so why doesn't every ocean have the"}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "same amount of current and w like wave"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "heights and stuff like that?"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:35", "text": ">> Does that have to do with our ozone"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "layer? No,"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:39", "text": ">> this this says that the"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:42", "text": ">> Yeah, the simplest way to explain"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "gravity is that mass attracts mass and"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "so we are drawn to it. The earth's"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "rotation"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:49", "text": ">> equals mc²."}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:51", "text": ">> Yeah, nailed it."}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": ">> But uh the rotation of the earth"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "actually reduces it because it would be"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "spinning it off of it. But then because"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "the earth isn't perfectly symmetrical,"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "those are the spots that are. But"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "basically what he was getting to is you"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "had Isaac Newton who was like one of the"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "first to observe gravity and like create"}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "a formula for it"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:10", "text": ">> which is insane."}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:13", "text": ">> No one thinks about it before"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:14", "text": ">> why does this fall?"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:18", "text": ">> Um and then Einstein"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:22", "text": ">> basically created a better formula for"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "it basically where like in space there's"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "dark matter and mass is basically"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "stretching on it like a trampoline. So"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "like it's like mass moves and then mass"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "it's it's crazy but no one can still"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "explain what is gravity."}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:37", "text": ">> I know"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:39", "text": ">> we just"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> we can't you can't observe it."}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:45", "text": ">> We are so we are so childlike in our"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "understanding of every single thing that"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "happens on this planet."}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> We got to figure it out."}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:49", "text": ">> Is light energy or mass?"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:51", "text": ">> The answer is both."}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:53", "text": ">> The answer is all above."}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:54", "text": ">> Yes. Did I saw a guy talking the other"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "day? He's like, \"You know how we have"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "those telescopes, NASA has those"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "telescopes, they could zoom in to the"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "moon and see like the smallest details"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "on all the craters?\" He says, \"Why"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "aren't we in space on the ISS or"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "whatever, zooming in to Earth and like"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:13", "text": "say, you know, you North America's up"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "here, you have Australia down here. Why"}, {"start": "01:36:13", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "don't we just zoom in Australia and you"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "would see like their perspect your"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "perspective would be they're almost"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:23", "text": "upside down.\""}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:25", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. because they're on the other"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "side, but yet they'd be still standing"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "up because, you know, gravity and stuff"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "like that. So he's like, \"Prove it then"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "if we're not a flat earth.\" He says,"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "\"Then zoom in and show Australia people"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "walking upside down.\" [laughter] He"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "says, \"I mean I mean come on.\" Like we"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "just like we don't ever get to see like"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "a good zoom in. Then people are like,"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "\"Have you not seen Google Earth?\" I'm"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "like, \"I don't think that's how Google"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "Earth works. There's not like a"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "satellite in space giving you real time"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "footage of how everything works.\" But"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "it's like"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:50", "text": ">> it's a collection of pictures."}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:51", "text": ">> It is interesting. I would love to see"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "an actual"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": ">> like seeing planes"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:54", "text": ">> planes landing and stuff. Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "just"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:59", "text": ">> concept of like you're just you're"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "looking up and like there's people above"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "you walking."}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> that would be cool to see."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> I would love to see that. Make it"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:08", "text": ">> There's something behind that Andy."}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:09", "text": ">> I don't understand. As soon as I saw I"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "was like, \"Oh, that's interesting. I"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "never really thought about that.\""}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:14", "text": ">> That's like if you were like if let's"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "make it for scale. If the Earth was like"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "this big"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:18", "text": ">> and you were to put it above you,"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:19", "text": ">> you're underneath the Earth. you'd be"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "underneath the earth. You should in"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "theory be able to look up and people"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "like you should see like the tops of"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:27", "text": "their heads walking like this."}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:31", "text": ">> I mean, it just it look like that maybe"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "anywhere on Earth, but"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:34", "text": ">> yeah, if you're on the [laughter] if"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "you're on the other side, it look like"}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "every aerial photo."}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:40", "text": ">> I know, but it just"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:42", "text": ">> I I seeing it like in space like if"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "you're zooming in like I mean"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:46", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't I don't know. I don't"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "know. I'm I guess my mind's just blown"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "by it a little bit. the lottery. This is"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "what you should commission [laughter] to"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "be done."}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:54", "text": ">> Could you imagine that's what I spend my"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "money on? And they're like, \"Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "obvious."}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:56", "text": ">> It'll be one of the most viewed videos"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "on YouTube. You'll make so"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "[clears throat] much residual.\""}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:01", "text": ">> Exactly. Like Google Earth."}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:04", "text": ">> I think they say that the gravity is"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "made of a particle called a graviton. I"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "believe"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:06", "text": ">> that is a word."}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:07", "text": ">> Are you making that up?"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:09", "text": ">> Graviton's a word."}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:12", "text": ">> No, I I don't know if that's the that's"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "the molecule of gravity. And but they've"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "never been able to observe it. They They"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "don't even know what it looks like. They"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "can only observe the effects of it"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:21", "text": ">> or its functionality like like"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:21", "text": ">> but they know what it does."}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:26", "text": ">> Is it a graviton?"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:30", "text": ">> Graviton is a hypothetical particle a"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "not yet observed quantum of gravity."}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "So a photon would be carrier carrier of"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "electromagnetic force. Uh and then other"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "words that I'm not going to try to"}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "pronounce."}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:41", "text": ">> Dude, the graviton is also the ride that"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "you ride at the county fair."}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:43", "text": ">> The gravitron."}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:45", "text": ">> You would know. You would know."}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:48", "text": ">> I would know. They're so much fun."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:50", "text": ">> Um, I always think about what Albert"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "Einstein said in his love letter to his"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "daughter about how love is a force not"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "yet measurable but is akin to gravity."}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:38:58", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was fake."}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:38:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:38:59", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:01", "text": ">> You're the one that read it, though."}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:03", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:03", "text": ">> You read it. Why would you think that"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "was fake?"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:08", "text": ">> Well, cuz I looked it up later and I"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "think people made that up."}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:11", "text": ">> Einstein wasn't actually that smart,"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "guys. [snorts] I think everyone made"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "that up."}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "Duh. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:16", "text": ">> You ruined my day."}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:18", "text": ">> I'm sorry."}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:19", "text": ">> Then you make that letter to your"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "daughter cuz then she'll look it up be"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "like, \"Wow.\""}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:22", "text": ">> She'll be like, \"You're not the first"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "person.\""}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:26", "text": ">> I don't know if it's been proven, but"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "they said it's it it seemed like it was"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "potentially a forged letter."}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:32", "text": ">> Did his daughter write it to herself?"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:32", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:33", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:34", "text": ">> I'm going to start doing that."}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:37", "text": ">> But what if we end up finding out that"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "like all the fruits of the spirit have"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "like a quantifiable energy?"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:42", "text": ">> There aren't multiple fruits. The fruit"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "of the spirit."}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": ">> Good job. I read that in Revelations."}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:49", "text": ">> Enough. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "All right. Keep talking. Don't away from"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "me."}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:56", "text": ">> I don't understand gravity. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:40:00", "text": ">> Anyways, gravity."}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "Gravity. Please come near me cuz I don't"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "know what you are."}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:05", "text": ">> Would you would you want to know? What"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "if the answer scared you?"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:10", "text": ">> What if you got trapped like Matthew"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "McConnA in the Tessarak?"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "Don't let him go, Murf."}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:17", "text": ">> Dude, saddest scene of all the world."}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:17", "text": ">> So sad. I hate that movie sometimes. I"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "know."}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:19", "text": ">> I love it."}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:21", "text": ">> All the feels."}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:22", "text": ">> Speaking of Dark Matter, you guys need"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "to watch the show Dark Matter on Apple"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "TV."}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:27", "text": ">> I heard it. You told me it's good."}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:30", "text": ">> It's so good, man. It's the guy from uh"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "Train Dreams and it's Jennifer Connley"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "and this uh she's the girl in Pan's"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "Labyrinth. Uh"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:39", "text": ">> you'd recognize her. She has Yeah, she's"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "she's huge. Um, but yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "phenomenal and it just it's literally"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "this guy who's like an like a I can't"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "even think of the fancy term, but he's"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "like a scientist and they do there's"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "this just basically this black cube that"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "go inside and it opens up into like"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "multiverses basically, but it's just"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "this kind of a darker, not really"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "darker, but it's just very drama"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> show and it's he sees he finds his wife"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "in another reality where they didn't get"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "married"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:09", "text": ">> and she pursued her dreams And so it's"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "just kind of but she's she's she's in"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "love like in re the re the reality that"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "he's in like they're in love. They have"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "a great marriage and she truly does love"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "him"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": ">> but he just gets to view her as a friend"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "like they were just good friends and she"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "pursued her art career and she was"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "successful and all those stuff but you"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:28", "text": "could tell that there's still a"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:30", "text": ">> connection between them two. So it just"}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "it's a good love story too but it's"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "apple."}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:33", "text": ">> How can I ruin that?"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:35", "text": ">> How could I I don't like your joy."}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:36", "text": ">> I don't like that you feel happy."}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "[laughter] I don't like that you're more"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "successful, we"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:42", "text": ">> speaking of more successful."}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Either are we're going to get more"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "successful after this episode, aren't"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "we?"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": ">> After this episode on our Patreon,"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "patreon.com/ninjas are butterflies where"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "we have an episode right after this or"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "YouTube members,"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:53", "text": ">> guys. We talk about all types of stuff,"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "stories that we couldn't get into. We"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "sometimes play copyrighted music because"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "YouTube doesn't like that. It's an"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "absolute blast and you get to hang out"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "with us more and we love hanging out"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "with you guys. And so, uh, we're not"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "saying that selfishly. We're And we are"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "saying that selfishly. We like hanging"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "out with you guys. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:06", "text": ">> So, and we like continue this"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "conversation."}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:10", "text": ">> I do have another story about a saint,"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "St. Moses the Black,"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:12", "text": ">> which apparently there's a movie about"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "him,"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:13", "text": ">> which apparently there's a movie about"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "him."}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:15", "text": ">> Let's go watch it."}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:15", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:16", "text": ">> it's going to be great."}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> We got some good stuff."}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:20", "text": ">> Yes, we do. I got some uh we got Amazon"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "came out with a new invention recently"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "that's going to be incorporating into"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "your homes, spying on you in your homes."}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:26", "text": ">> Excellent."}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:27", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:28", "text": ">> Very good."}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:30", "text": ">> It's very good. So, make sure to go to"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "patreon.com/ninjas"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "of butterflies or download the app. The"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "app's great. you can close out of the"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "app and everything and it still plays in"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "the background. So, if you guys don't"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "want to spend money on uh that premium"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "YouTube, guess what? You still get"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "behind the scenes footage, all of this"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "stuff right there in the one app and we"}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "post constantly. We posted the we"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "practiced a song today that we uploaded."}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:52", "text": ">> yes, you can go check that out."}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:54", "text": ">> Um, and if you guys want some ninja"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "swag, go to suncoolwag.com."}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": ">> We got some new shirts coming."}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:42:58", "text": ">> Pretty sick. I cannot wait to wear that"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "one."}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:00", "text": ">> Yeah, it's going to be dope."}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:03", "text": ">> Should I pop it up? Should I show"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:03", "text": ">> them? easier just for what? Like a half"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "a second."}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:05", "text": ">> Yeah, half second."}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:05", "text": ">> They'll freeze it though. So if you"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "don't want"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:11", "text": ">> It's okay. That's fine. Then if you do"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:13", "text": "it, if you pause this, you deserve it."}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:14", "text": ">> A bunch of them missed it and they're"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "like, \"Oh.\" And they say, \"You got to be"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "quicker than that.\""}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:18", "text": ">> Oh, you got to be quicker than that."}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:20", "text": ">> Missed it."}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:21", "text": ">> Um, and if you need custom apparel, go"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "to Sundaycool.com"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "and get you custom apparel for your"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "group, church, business, whatever."}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:29", "text": ">> Yes. Next uh next month we're going to"}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "be dropping a"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:34", "text": ">> a giveaway for you. Everyone get gets to"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "get a prize whether it's stickers, some"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:38", "text": "of you guys are going to get free"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "shirts. Um so keep an eye out for that."}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:41", "text": ">> And this this isn't just a sponsored ad"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "read. When I was a youth pastor, I used"}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "Sunday cool. Lily was actually my rep"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "and they were great the whole way. 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We love you."}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:04", "text": ">> Love you."}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:05", "text": ">> Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "But speaking of government, there's a uh"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "you said you had some government stories"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "and Pentagon stuff and so I was just"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "looking through uh some of the stuff I"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "had saved and I was like I can't"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "remember what this one was about. But"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "this is uh the story of the business"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "plot."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "So this happened in the 1930s. It was a"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "group of extremely wealthy businessmen"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "who planned to overtake the government,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "the US government, and put in a fascist"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "puppet."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> I've talked about this."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Have you?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> The business puppet."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> I don't remember. Refresh me."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> I asked you earlier if you had heard"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "about it, and you said no."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> I swear I have."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> You might have. I'll admit my memory is"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "very short."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> No, it's okay. It's fine. It's all"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> Wait, tell me cuz I forgot."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Take a break."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> I forgot. Give us give us the short"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "version."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> So 1933"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "FDR gets into office. Do you remember"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Okay. We talked about this already"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> a while ago."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> I guess I didn't. It didn't ring any"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "bells for me maybe. But"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> I don't think I called it the business"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "plot though."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> That's what it's called. Like on like"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "everything's linked and I was like that"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "kind of sounds kind of weird. Not really"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Just give a refresher cuz in 1930s these"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "guys who plan to overtake the government"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "but it happened FDR was elected and this"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "is in the middle of you know the great"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "depression. absolutely crushed the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "United States of America. So FDR comes"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "in with the New Deal. So social"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "security, worker protection,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> um uh you know, regulation, rules and"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "regulations on certain banks and stuff"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "like that, social security. And so he"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "starts, you know, saying all this stuff"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "every all the average Americans are"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "saying, \"This is great news. This is"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "awesome.\" But to the freaking ultra rich"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "people who are going to be getting huge"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "uh, you know, tax stuff, you know, being"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "thrown in at their way with the New"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Deal, they're thinking this is, you"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "know, the end of capitalism, all this"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "stuff. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> And so"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> they forge a plan. This is the people at"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "JP Morgan. These are people on uh uh"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Wall Street. These are huge, huge"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "corporations, all get together and they"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "make a plan. Their plan is they're going"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "to get over 500,000"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "war veterans and they're going to march"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "in DC. They're going to try to they're"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "going to ask FDR force him to step"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "aside. Then they're going to take on"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "they're going to put a leader a uh you"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "know"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> fascist leader. Yeah. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "hire or get one of those US generals to"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> Yes. Smemedley uh Butler was his name."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> This real named Butler. But this dude"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "was a um you know a US Marine general."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "He was decorated. He was a war hero. Uh"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "respected by all these veterans and was"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "uh considered like you cannot break this"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "dude. This guy was sold out. He was a"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Republican. But then he started going"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "for FDR."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> But they go up and they ask him and they"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "he says yes and he sits down and he"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "starts taking notes listing going all"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "their meetings and everything like that."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "But the thing is Butler was actually"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "lying. He's a true American. And as soon"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "as he found out that he had enough"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "information, he went to Congress and"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> yes, Medley"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> did a uh testimony in front of Congress"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "and let all that stuff air out and told"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "him what the plan was and everything."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "And it was a big deal. So much so that"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "it created a committee uh unamerican"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "like activities uh association or"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "committee."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> So like a lot of like you know Nazi"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "stuff, but that's what started that"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "whole committee is literally what Butler"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "said. But the sucky thing is no one was"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "charged. I was going to say, did anybody"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "go to prison?"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> No one got in trouble whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> Because they made they ended up making a"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "deal with FDR."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> Oh, did they?"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> Yeah. It was like this whole like"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "backroom deal. It's like, hey, well,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "okay, we'll stop doing this whole"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "uprising thing. But then in exchange,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "you got to do this. You got to cut us"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "tax breaks and all this And so it was"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "this weird"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> really weird back door thing to where"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "none of them got charged,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> but in the end they still had like"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "control and FDR basically swayed into"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "some of their points."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> Yeah, that's that's the nuts thing to me"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "is it wasn't just like"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> it wasn't they were trying to literally"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "do a coup"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> and it literally wasn't just like random"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "like radical"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> people. These were like established"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "billionaires"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> elites. These are the elites that we see"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "today. I mean, it's just like it's the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "same villains that keep going."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> What a gnarly group of people to stand"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "up to, though. Like, imagine being that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "dude and then seeing none of them go to"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "jail. You're like, \"Wait, like has"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "anyone checked up on this dude? How did"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "he do like several years later?\""}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Insane."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> I mean, even today."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Yeah. It's all the time."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> With just these billionaires that like"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> they can be featured in a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "pictures and on a lot of flight logs."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> Nothing. [clears throat] Seriously,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "nothing. Nothing. Ninjas are"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "butterflies."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "[screaming and groaning]"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Did I say ninja? I meant"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> butterfly."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of God's"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "empty your mind. You were martial arts."}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Speaking of not so funny,"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": ">> what"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> the we have a little update on the"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> What's going on?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> I get all my from you guys, so this is"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "going to be great direct from the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "horse's mouth."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> So, this is neither confirmed nor"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "denied."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> Um, but there's this interview or"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "something that apparently interviewed"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "one of the guards on the compound where"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "uh Madero was taken."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Okay. on US soil."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> No, in Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Oh, Venezuela. Okay. Yeah. Soon to be US"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "soil."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Um but I actually talked to someone that"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "we know about this and he's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "this isn't anything new. This is this"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "we've had this for a while.\""}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> I'm just going to read the account"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "because it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> So, I don't want to like butcher"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> Um this account is from a Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "security guard loyal to Nicholas Maduro."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Uh, it's absolutely chilling and"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "explains a lot about why the tone across"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Latin America suddenly changed. Security"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "guard on the day of the operation, we"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "didn't hear anything coming. We were on"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "guard, but suddenly all our radar system"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "shut down without any explanation. The"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "next thing we saw were drones, lots of"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "drones flying over our positions. We"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "didn't know how to react. Interviewer"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "says, \"So, what happened next? How was"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the main attack?\" Security guard. After"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "those drones appeared, some helicopters"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "arrived, but there were very few. I"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "think a barely eight helicopters. From"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "those helicopters, soldiers came down,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "but a very small number, maybe 20 men."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "But those men were technologically very"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "advanced. They didn't look like anything"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "we fought against before."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> Interviewer, what? And then the battle"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "began. Security guard. Yes, it was a"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "massacre. We were hundreds, but we had"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "no chance. They were shooting with such"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "precision and speed. It seemed like each"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "soldier was firing 300 rounds per"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "minute. We couldn't do anything."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Interviewer,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> what is happening?"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> And in your own uh in your your own"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "weapons, didn't they help? Security"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "guard. No help at all because it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "just the weapons. At one point, they"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "launched something. I don't know how to"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "describe it. It was like a very intense"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "soundwave. Suddenly, I felt like my head"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "was exploding from the inside. We all"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "started bleeding from the nose. Some"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "were vomiting blood."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> We fell to the ground unable to move."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Yeah, dude."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> And then interviewer says, \"And your"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "comrades watch the show, dude. I just"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "[laughter] saw this.\""}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> The interviewer said, \"And your"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "comrades, did they manage to resist?\""}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Security guard says, \"No, not at all."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "Those 20 men with without a single"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "casualty killed hundreds of us. We had"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "no way to compete with their technology,"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "with their weapons. I swear I have never"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "seen anything like it. we couldn't even"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "stand up against the sonic weapons or"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "whatever it was. And it goes on, but"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "he's just like, \"If you\" He Let me just"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "read this part. Security guard also"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "said, \"Um, I'm sending a warning to"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "anyone who thinks they can fight the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "United States.\" This is where it starts"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "sounding a little bit like propaganda."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> I'm sending a a warning to anyone who"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "thinks they can fight against the United"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "States. They have no idea what they're"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "capable capable of. After what I saw, I"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "never want to be on the other side of"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "that again. They're not to be messed"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "with."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> And then yeah, he goes on about other"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "stuff, but"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> we have the we have the weapon, dude."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I talked to our buddy, which"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "I can tell you afterwards. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "if he's allowed to say it is,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> but he's like, \"We used that exact"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "weapon in the early Iraq wars.\""}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> Yeah. He said, \"We've had that for a"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "long time.\""}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> The sonic weapon."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> Well, I mean, it's Havana syndrome,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> It sounds a lot like it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Yeah, dude. Maybe just like crazy"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "different intensities, different"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "frequencies because certain frequencies"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "travel further. So I wonder if like"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> like the one Havana was like lose hair,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "lose teeth and so I wonder if they"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "change the frequency if they can like"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "precisely hit a spot."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Yeah, the Havana syndrome that's like"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "more like long distance frequency, but"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "like you don't even it like causes like"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "brain damage. Brain damage. This kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "sounds like it was like a w"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Which I know they use those like"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "cannons for like crowd controls and"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "stuff because remember that."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> But this sounds like it was"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> it hurting you neurologically."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Way more intense. If they're bleeding"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "from their nose instantly,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> bro. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> On the ground. My gosh. Like Tim"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Alberino stuff like when the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> the Peru"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what it reminded me of."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "We're like South America."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> Were they Were they bleeding? No, but it"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "was just like the type of like with with"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "his story"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> like the technology that these soldiers"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "possessed."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> They weren't aliens that they were"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "people. Like that was like the whole"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "thing. And it's like, oh my gosh, dude."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> It's weird."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> The military."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> What about the super soldiers?"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> What about these guys that had crazy"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "equipment that were unstoppable, killing"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "hundreds of people?"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> What if our super soldiers now are just"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "have the Nephilim DNA in them?"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> I think they're just aliens. like just"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "people that they've just built."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> I I'm kind of hung up on the nosebleleed"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "section part of it cuz that's Stranger"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Things as heck."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> Well, that that was literally like the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "vibe and they had that that was their"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "thing. That was her they had the sonic"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "thing that her"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> stopped her from her powers. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And fell on the ground, wiggled"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "around in pain and bleeding from the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "nose or whatever. Well, the uh the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "engineer who uh was like behind the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Montalk project and like kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "whistleblow allegedly on a lot of that"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "stuff was he was an electrical engineer"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "who specialized on radio frequencies."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "And so his whole thing was in the in the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "80s um focusing on this thing. They they"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "focused radio waves on the on a specific"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "chair where the the viewers would sit in"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "the chair and they would put c they"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "found like certain frequencies could"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "make someone like pliable or could"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "amplify psychic powers and so it was"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "like very very intentional they were"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "playing with like how much energy to"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "send what frequency to send it and based"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "on those certain things uh they were"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "able to do other things and I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "to remember there was a there was a DoD"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "budget and when they were trying to fund"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "this project alleged It was like I"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "forget how many millions upon millions"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "of dollars, but the promise that they"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "made with all these experiments is that"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "they could they could with a click of a"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "button cause schizophrenia,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> dude."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Like that that was that was the thing"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "that they were playing with."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> I don't like that."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> But like but you think about like Havana"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "like you're you're losing your mind and"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "like so imagine if there's a frequency"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "like we just need them to be like we"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "just need them to go along with it. You"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "hit them with one frequency. No, we need"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "this person to lose it."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "[screaming]"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> The butterfly is [music] no doubt one of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "God's"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "empty your mind. You learn martial arts."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": " Joseph. [screaming]"}]

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This is also a conflict"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "that um it appears those who started it"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "didn't understand what they were getting"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "into and uh Iran has been fully prepared"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "uh for this eventuality. The"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "decapitation strike did not decapitate."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Um the Iranian people are not in the"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "streets demanding the overthrow of the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "government. Just the opposite. They're"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "in the streets rallying in support of"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "the government. Um and the war plan has"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "gone arry from the start. Uh you know"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "this was a war that the J you know the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "joint chiefs of staff told the president"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "we don't have the resources to fight and"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "win. Um they tinkered with the war plan"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "uh anyways and they went forward. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "when you're trying to accomplish a lot"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "with limited resources if uh if the war"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "plan goes out of sync up front which"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "this one has. Remember this war, this"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "mission that we're on is predicated on"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "decapitation. We have lost this war"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> in 10 hours"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> in in about 10 to 12 hours."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> We lost this war the moment we fired"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "missiles against Iran because we don't"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "have a plan that can be implemented and"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "we are going to run out of ammunition."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "This is what the generals told the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "admiral that was fired"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> from the joint chiefs of staff told the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "president, \"We don't have the resources"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "to do this war. if you do this, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "going to lose. Well, first of all,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "there's some talk out of the US military"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "that um the initial phase of this"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "campaign is a four-day um campaign day"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "and night. So you're what if that's the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "case, what we're going to see is just"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "non-stop um sorties flying into Iran uh"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "to you know follow through on uh regime"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "change on decapitation to suppress uh"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Iranian uh security targets to take out"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "air defense and to suppress ballistic"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "missile launch capability but according"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "to the president also to strike"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "ballistic missile production capacity."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "uh there are various facilities near"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Thrron that appear to be being targeted"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "by uh the the United States and and by"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Israel. So, we're we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "basically seeing um you know"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "72 hours of um or I'm sorry 4 days to 24"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "48 96 hours of um of strikes um and then"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "there ostensibly would be a pause in"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "which um you know the United States"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "would be hopeful that the Iranian people"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "would rise up and remove their"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "government power while we uh rearm,"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "re-equip and uh and look for new"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "targets. Uh uh but I I I I I think we've"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "got this completely wrong because it"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "doesn't appear that the Iranians are um"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "are bulking, are hurt, are uh are are"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "confused, are stumbling about uh they"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "are responding in a very forceful manner"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "and as you and um you know pointed out"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "they haven't used their best. I think"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "tonight there's some uh video evidence"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "that they may have fired a couple of"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "their more advanced missiles. Um you"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "know, we shall see. But the point is"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "they have very advanced missiles. Um and"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "these missiles will do extreme harm on"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the targets that they're aimed at. And"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "um and Iran, I do believe, will be"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "victorious in this war. The United"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "States is going to run out of"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "ammunition. And when that happens, uh we"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "will have to withdraw from this conflict"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "because we have no ability to continue"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "this conflict. uh and we lose all"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "leverage over Iran at that point in"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "time. Israel is going to be physically"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "defeated uh in this conflict. This is a"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "war of existential proportions. Um I"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "don't believe that the United States is"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "going to be able to pick up the phone"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "and have this war stop. I believe uh"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Iran will has already gotten the upper"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "hand and will continue to uh apply force"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "effectively against Israel, the United"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "States and the Gulf Arab states to the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "point that when a diplomatic solution um"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "is arrived at and I do believe that"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Russia and China are going to be pushing"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "for diplomatic solution um you know"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "peace will break out but peace that is"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "acceptable to to Iran which means that"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "for the first time people are going to"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "have to sit down, shut up, and listen to"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "the Iranians and what they want. And"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "they don't want a nuclear weapon. The"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Iranians are smart. They've been"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "preparing for this conflict since 2005."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Throughout Iran, there's a system of uh"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "caverns dug into the side of mountains"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "and hills where this material has been"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "evacuated. Uh there are alternative"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "evacuation sites. Um you know, Israel is"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "talking about hitting what did you say,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "500 targets or what? 500 targets was the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "yeah 200 aircraft 500 targets"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> operation"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> but the Iranians have created an"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "additional 1500 targets by dispersing"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "this and they will continue to disperse"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "now we're in an intelligence game where"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "you have to collect intelligence and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "evaluate intelligence and identify"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "targets and then put together a target"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "strike package and strike the targets"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "before the enemy actually re-evacuates."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Uh the Iranians aren't going to be"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "staying in one place. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "be moving. And unless Israel controls"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "the skies for 24 hours, they won't be"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "able to interdict. This is a losing"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "proposition for Israel. Iran was ready"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "for this. They um and the important"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "thing is that in being prepared for"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "this, they apparently prepared in a way"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "that didn't tip off their preparation to"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Israel and the United States because we"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "would not have launched this strike"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "unless we had a high degree of"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "confidence that the the targets we were"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "hitting would be um in fulfillment of"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "the mission that we put forth. uh we"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "wouldn't waste all of these extremely"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "high uh value, very expensive precision"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "munitions in the first wave of the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "attack just to strike empty buildings"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "because that it appears is what we hit."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "A bunch of empty buildings with a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "significant amount of collateral damage"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "for um Iranian civilians but almost zero"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "impact on the target sets that we're"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "trying to um to eradicate. This is a war"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "of choice. It's not a war of necessity."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "And therefore it makes it an illegal war"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "of aggression. And I'll just pound this"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "point home all over again because people"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "hear that term and they roll their eyes."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "This is what we voted for. They said,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you know, I don't really give a damn"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "what you voted for. What I care about is"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "the Constitution of the United States of"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "America. And this war operates in total"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "contravention of the Constitution. If"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Iran was threatened by Israel uh who has"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "nuclear weapons, Iran would be able to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "reconsider this fatwa and under"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "extraordinary circumstances determined"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "that Iran could have a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "The guy who was making that argument is"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "now the senior Islamic cleric in Iran."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "You stupid idiots."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "The man who believes that Iran has a"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "right to have a nuclear bomb is now the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "guy that interprets the Islamic faith"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "for the Islamic Republic and the people"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "of Iran are in the streets saying this"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "is what we want. How stupid can you be?"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Well, the answer is extraordinarily"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "stupid. And so now we see the the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "reality. This Islamic Republic is not"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "built on the backs of one man. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "built on the back of a constitution that"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "is being applied as we speak. No"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "deviation from the constitution"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "whatsoever. Things are going exactly the"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "way the constitution says it must happen"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and on the backs of the faithful. And"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "you just empowered the faithful to say"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "we need nuclear weapons."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "we're in a very dangerous position. But"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "let's continue down the path of regime"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "change for a second. You see, regime"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "change is a double-edged sword. Donald"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Trump unshathed it along with Israel and"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "sought to wield it against the Iranians."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "But it cuts both ways."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Donald Trump lost the war on day one."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "the first six bombs that fell on on uh"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Iran. He lost the war, which means"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "there will be regime change in the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "United States before there's regime"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "change in Iran."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Donald Trump's cult of personality will"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "not survive the midterm elections."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Because in order to win the midterm"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "elections, Donald Trump needed to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "deliver a very quick, relatively"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "bloodless war to the American people."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "One that accomplished what no other"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "American president in 47 years has been"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "able to do. but instead he's going to go"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "down the path of yet another failed"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "president who's gotten the United States"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "involved in a long drawn out war that we"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "won't win. Uh we will lose we don't know"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "how many lives we will lose but it'll be"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "devastating. The Iranians will not"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "buckle. There will be no popular"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "uprising in Iran to overthrow the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "regime. Ali Kame is a martyr now. A"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "martyr. A martyr of the significance of"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Hussein himself. a martyr that in the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "eyes of the Shia faithful is the equal"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "to Ali. That's why the last posting on"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the on his ex account invoked Ali, a"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "symbol of defiance. And so the Shia"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "faithful rally around Ali Kaman,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "a man who was what 88 years old at his"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "death,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "but closer"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> 86 uh had a disease. U his biggest fear"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "was to die a fragile old man. He said he"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "wanted to go out a martyr. People keep"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "saying why did he stay in his residence"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "knowing what was going to happen. Why"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "did Hussein lead the charge against the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "unfaithful in the battle of Carbala?"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Because he chose martyrdom. He chose"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "martyrdom as a way of exposing the lack"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "of Islamic uh adherence on the part of"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "the Umid khifs. He chose martyrdom to"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "protect his followers who were seeking"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "to flee from the battle. Ali Kaman, this"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "frail old man, didn't want to die hiding"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "in a bunker, allowing his legacy to be"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "tarnished by those who diminished him"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "through that action. Ali Kame sat down"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "with a circle of fellow martyrs."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Everybody at that meeting knew what was"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "going to happen. And they knew that"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "through their sacrifice they would"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "elevate the cause of the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Republic back into the heart and soul of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "the Iranian people. And that is manifest"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "today. Ali Kam chose martyrdom. We gave"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "it to him because we are truly the"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "stupidest people on the planet. We don't"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "know anything about the people that we"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "seek to engage in combat with. We"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "disrespect their faith. We disrespect"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "everything about them. And what's going"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "to happen is has been actually"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "pre-ordained by American admirals."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "The, you know, Trump fired the uh"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "director of the joint chiefs of staff"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "for having the timmerity to say we don't"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "have enough uh ammunition to finish this"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "job."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> We're going to start something and we"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "can't finish it. uh if we don't get this"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "quick uh revolution in the streets um"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "and the Iranians decide to resist"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "then we will run out of ammunition"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "before they run out of resistance and"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "then we lose this war and when we lose"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "this war the American people will be a"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "woken to the reality that Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "is not the president of a peace but he"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "is a pro-Israeli wararmonger that put"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Israel above American interests"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "sacrificed the lives of Americans"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "slaughtered innocent Iranians these dead"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "school children will become sort of the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "poster child of the perity of the United"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "States who once again use diplomacy as a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "means of setting up a surprise attack."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "We will never be trusted by anybody"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "again, nor should we. But this is the"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "end of Donald Trump. His regime will"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "collapse in the midterm elections. He"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "will spend the last two years of his"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "presidency being impeached. And if this"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "war goes bad enough, maybe being"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "convicted and being hauled out of the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "White House in an orange jumpsuit in"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "handcuffs because that is his faith."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Regime change. This is going to be one"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "of the most successful regime change"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "operations in the history of regime"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "change operations, but is literally a"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "self-inflicted wound by Donald Trump on"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "his own political legacy. Iran's being"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "pounded by the most technologically"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "advanced militaries in in in the world."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Uh the Israeli military, which achieved"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "its,"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "you know, technological prominence"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "because of American weaponry, and the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "United States, which of course when you"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "pour in nearly a trillion dollars a year"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "or 1 point 1.5 trillion if this budget"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "goes through, uh you you better have"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "advanced weapons. And so we are"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "inflicting death and destruction on Iran"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "as we speak. But Iran is a very large"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "nation, four times the size of Iraq, 90"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "million uh population. Um that have now"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "again threatening to bomb people to"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "death in a nation that reveres martyrdom"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "is really the dumbest path to take. As"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "you said, Ali Kam opted to stay at home,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "do his business from home together with"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "people who believe the same thing"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "because they are leaders. uh they are"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "going to lead by example and the example"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "for Iran to set right now is their"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "willingness to uh absorb the the damage"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "inflicted by you know the evil"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "modern-day Umayids uh Trump and Benjamin"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Netanyahu um because they believe in the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "end that they will emerge victorious."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Um, so we are blowing things up, but the"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Iranians are responding and they're"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "responding in a way that took everybody"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "um, offguard because I think most people"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "thought that Iran would respond directly"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "to Israel and then there would be a sort"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "of a escalation ladder taking place as"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "they started to strike one American"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "base, then another, then another in an"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "effort to get the United States and"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Israel to the negotiating table. But"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Iran literally just"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "went out and hit everything. And even"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "the Trump administration is like, \"We"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "didn't expect this to happen. They've"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "hit us in a way that nobody's ever hit"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "us before, and they're sustaining that.\""}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Um, you know, yes, we are blowing things"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "up, but if we don't understand that for"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the last 20 years, Iran has been"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "preparing for this very scenario that"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Iran understands better than we do what"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "we do. Um, you know, they will take"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "losses, but they will continue to launch"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "as we're seeing now. and they have"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "prepared stockpiles that are"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "successfully hidden, sequestered, spread"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "out that they'll be able to draw upon"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "for months."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Um, we on the other hand will run out of"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "ammunition in weeks. Uh, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "again we we look at regime change just"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "to look at coming at from a targeting"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "perspective. Um, again for the ignorant"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "masses in your chat and everybody else's"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "chat, um, I used to do this for a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "living. So shut up and listen. uh when"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "you know we prepare a strategic air"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "campaign of this nature, we have"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "objectives that we want to reach. We say"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "that by this period of time we should"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "achieve this results. Then we move to"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "this and that and it's sort of a"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "campaign of sequential events that uh"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "that build up on one another till you"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "get to the culminating moment which is"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the collapse of of the enemy that you"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "were targeting. We have a finite amount"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "of resources. So we take these resources"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "and we allocate them accordingly. We put"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "them on for instance the first phase,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the first goal objective to achieve"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "that. Then we take these resources and"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "reapply them part of a planned process"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "to achieve the next and next and the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "next and the next. But what happens and"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "it happened in the Gulf War where for"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "instance we had resources two F-15E"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "Strike Eagle squadrons that were applied"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "to one of the primary phase one"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "objectives of suppressing Iraqi"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "ballistic missile launch capability in"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "western Iraq. and we send them out to"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "strike fixed arm launchers and hit"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "mobile launch sites. Um, and according"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to the plan, we were supposed to have"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "achieved all this on the second day."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "First day of primary strikes, second day"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "of restrikes, and then we have wiped"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "that target deck off and we moved these"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "squadrons over to their next mission"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "assignments which await them outside of"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Bazra and outside of Baghdad. But we"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "didn't destroy anything. The missiles"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "kept launching. So we had to keep these"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "F-15 squadrons on target and reinforce"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "them diverting resources away from the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "other target decks to go down this route"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "and it degraded the strategic air"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "campaign. But at that time we had"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "sufficient resources. We had a lot of"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "airplanes, a lot of bombs. So we just"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "lengthened the strategic air campaign"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "and we rode out this problem set. Um"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "here we have a strategic campaign that"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "is crippled from the start by"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "insufficient resources. The admiral that"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "was fired said, \"We don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "airplanes and we don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "bombs, so we can't do what you want us"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "to do.\" But the others came in and said,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "\"No, no, we've planned this very"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "carefully. We are going to kill a bunch"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "of people. The first six bombs are going"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "to kill Amen and 40 people, and that"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "will cascade the the collapse of the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "regime, and then we move to suppression"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "of the security forces, and then we"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "achieve regime change, and we win.\" and"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Trump could do his stupid little Trump"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "YMCA moronic dance. Um, so they fired a"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "whole bunch of missiles, a whole bunch"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "of missiles to achieve regime change. If"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "you heard what we just said, I hope the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "audience is listening. The regime has"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "not collapsed. It has fallen on the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "constitution and the president of Iran"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "has is sits at the head of a threeperson"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "uh succession committee until they elect"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "a new supreme leader. There is the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "Assembly of Experts, which by the way is"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "democratically elected. I want to remind"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "all you haters out there that Iran is"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "probably the most successfully"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "functioning democracy in the Middle"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "East. Um, and they elect the assembly of"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "experts who then through the will of the"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "people monitor the supreme leader and"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "will select the new supreme leader and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "the regime continues. It's there. It's a"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "viable. It is functioning. We failed in"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "regime change. So all of those resources"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "that we used up on day one are gone and"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "now we have to reallocate resources to"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "continue hunting down the regime. And so"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "we have already put ourselves behind the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "eightball and we're chasing something"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "that we'll never catch up to because we"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "don't have time. We don't have time"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "because we don't have the resources. We"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "don't have the ammunition. We're burning"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "through our ammunition at rates that"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "we'll never be able to replenish. And"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "it's not just what we're doing against"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Iran, what Iran is doing against us by"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "continuing to fly these attacks. They"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "are sucking up resources. Over a"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "thousand Iranian missiles were launched"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "on day one. The average expenditure rate"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "for the air defense is 3 to four"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "missiles per missile. That means that we"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "have burned through 3 to 4,000"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "interceptor missiles. And the missiles"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "are still flying. The Iranians have"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "planned a campaign that will last"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "months. We have the ability to sustain"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "this for maybe another week and then we"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "run out of missiles. We got nothing"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "left. Nothing. And just again for all"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "you genius geopolitical analysts out"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "there, when I say nothing, that means we"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "have nothing in the Pacific."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "What would happen if China decided they"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "wanted to take Taiwan right about now?"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "We got nothing. All our cruise missiles"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "are being chewed up. All our interceptor"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "missiles are gone."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "What would happen? And I mean, Russia's"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "not going to do it, but if Russia wanted"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "to make a move on Europe, we got"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "nothing. Nothing. This is the stupidity"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "of this. We gambled everything to"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "achieve what?"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "To make Israel happy."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "The Iranians had agreed to. There's a"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "wonderful post on X written by uh one of"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "the diplomatic advisers to uh the the"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "ruler of Oman who was managing this um"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "negotiation. And he talks about what had"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "been accomplished. And he said that the"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "deal that was agreed to by the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "got rid of their nuclear enrichment"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "program and everything but name only."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "Meaning that if you wanted to ensure"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "that Iran would never have a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "weapon. This was the deal. This would"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "have been Donald Trump's great"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "peacemaking diplomatic victory. Peace"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "through strength. Threaten an attack."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "Get the Iranians at the table and get"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "them under pressure to agree to"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "something. so fundamental that you could"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "stand up legitimately and say there will"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "never be an Iranian nuclear war because"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "there are no sunset clauses in this"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "unlike the JC Pua which aged out. This"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "one is permanent forever and the"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "Iranians had agreed to it. It was in"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "writing. They were moving to a signing"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "ceremony. This guy talks about how he"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "ordered 12 uh Mont Blanc Meister pins"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "for the signing ceremony at $620 each."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "But we weren't lo serious about the"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "nuclear program. We're using as a"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "subtrauge to do the Israeli pleasing"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "regime change operation which has now"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "failed. But it not only failed in terms"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "of failing to get rid of the regime, but"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that nuclear program could very well"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "become active. I want to ask all the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "morons in your chat, what is the status"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "of the 60% enriched uranium that we"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "failed to destroy in Donald Trump's"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "first attack against Iran? We didn't"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "know where it is. We don't know where it"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "is. Do you think we're getting it today?"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "And if we don't get it, do you think"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Iran may have over the period of time"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "squestered away enough uh final"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "manufacturing capacity to convert that"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "into at least five or 10 U nuclear bombs"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "the size of Hiroshima."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "But you don't know, do you? Cuz you're"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "stupid. You're as stupid as the"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "president is. I'm sorry, Danny. I"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "shouldn't be insulting your audience or"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "in the audience, but I am so fed up"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "because it is because of the ignorance"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "of people like this that the president"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "believes he has legitimacy to do what"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "he's doing."}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "We have stupid people out there that"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "don't think through the problem, who are"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "ignorant of the problem. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "I'm just I'm just fed up with them"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "because, you know, we are looking at a"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "world that's going to hell. The defeat"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "of America, as pleasing as it may be to,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "you know, the pro-Iranian community out"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "there. If you're an American patriot,"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "you can't want this. You cannot be"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "seeking this. If you're somebody like me"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "who actually took the oath, swore"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "allegiance, put on the uniform, and went"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "to war for my country, you you you you"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "can't celebrate anything that results in"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "the death of the men and women who put"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "on that uniform. And yet they're dying."}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "The the the defense department, I call"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "it the defense department legally."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "That's what it is. It's not a war"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "department. That title doesn't exist"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "under law. But the defense department"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "has acknowledged uh it leads to deaths"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "of at least three American servicemen,"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "they said, in combat operations against"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "Iran. We don't know if they died on the"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "ground in Iran because there's ongoing"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "raids taking place. That's outside the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "scope of what most people are talking"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "about. Special operation forces are on"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the ground. Um I think there was an"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "attempt to raid a one of those"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "underground missile cities. Uh it didn't"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "go well and we had to withdraw. Um you"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "know, so there's there's this activity."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "You know, we we can say like I do that I"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "don't want the Iranian regime to"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "collapse, but I will never cheerlead in"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "favor of the death of any American at"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "all. Ever. Um and yet that's the"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "situation we're in right now where"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "Americans are dying. Um and then again,"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "how can you cheerlead for what America"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "is doing? Because one of the first"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "missiles that struck Iran hit a a a"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "secondary school and over a hundred"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "children, school girls ages between six"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "and 12 are dead. Um, imagine being a"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "mother who sent their children to school"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "that morning because you believe there"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "would be peace because the United States"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "was engaged in a legitimate uh"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "negotiation. U Marco Rubio announced he"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "was traveling to Israel on Monday and"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "therefore of course there can't be a war"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "if Marco Rubio is traveling. So in good"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "consciousness, he said, \"I'm sending my"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "children to school so they can become"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "educated, become part, have a brighter"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "future.\" And you send them to school"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "only to have an Israeli missile hit that"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "school and kill virtually everybody"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "inside that school. Um,"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "you can't celebrate this. You can't"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "celebrate any aspect of this. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "yet here we are because of the stupidity"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "of a president who is guided by the"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "stupidity of his political faithful who"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "are as ignorant as the day is long about"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "the world we live in."}]

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Just now was"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "announced that we knocked out nine ships"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "plus their naval building"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "all in a matter of literally minutes."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Iran's formerly Supreme Leader Ayatollah"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Hame"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "is dead. This wretched and vile man had"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "the blood of hundreds and even thousands"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "of Americans on his hands and was"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "responsible for the slaughter of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "countless thousands of innocent people"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "all across many countries."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Last night all over Iran, the voices of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the Iranian people could be heard"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "cheering and celebrating in the streets"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "when his death was announced."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "The entire military command is gone as"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "well and many of them want to surrender"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "into saving their lives. They want"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "immunity."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "They're calling by the thousands."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Combat operations continue at this time"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "in full force and they will continue"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "until all of our objectives are"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "achieved. We have very strong"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "objectives. They could have done"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "something two weeks ago, but they just"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "couldn't get there. Earlier today,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Sentcom shared the news that three US"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "military service members have been"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "killed in action. As one nation, we"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "grieve for the true American patriots"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "who have made the ultimate sacrifice for"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "our nation. Even as we continue the"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "righteous mission for which they gave"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "their lives, we pray for the full"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "recovery of the wounded and send our"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "immense love and eternal gratitude to"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the families of the fallen. And sadly,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "there will likely be more before it"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "ends. That's the way it is. Likely be"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "more. But we'll do everything possible"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "where that won't be the case. But"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "America will avenge their deaths and"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "deliver the most punishing blow to the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "terrorists who have waged war against"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "basically civilization."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "They have waged war against civilization"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "itself. Our resolve and likewise that of"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Israel has never been stronger. America"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "is now again the richest, most powerful"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "nation in the world by far. But the only"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "reason we enjoy the quality of life that"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "we do and the freedom and security is we"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "done things that others are unable to"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "do."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "But it's because of warriors who are"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "willing to lay down their lives to do"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "battle with our enemies. And they do"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "battle better than anybody. An Iranian"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "regime armed with long range missiles"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "and nuclear weapons would be a dire"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "threat to every American. We cannot"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "allow a nation that raises terrorist"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "armies to possess such weapons would"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "allow them to extort the world to their"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "evil will. Not going to let it happen."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "We're not happening to us and we're not"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "going to let it happen to others. The"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "United States has the strongest military"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the world has ever seen. I rebuilt our"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "military in my first term. There's never"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "been a military like we possess."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "And frankly, there's nobody even close."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "But we are now using that military for"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "good. We want to have it for good"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "purpose."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "We're undertaking this massive operation"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "not merely to ensure security for our"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "own time and place, but for our children"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "and their children, just as our"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "ancestors have done for us many, many"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "years ago."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "This is the duty and the burden of a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "free people."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "These actions are right and they are"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "necessary to ensure that Americans will"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "never have to face a radical,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "bloodthirsty terrorist regime armed with"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "nuclear weapons and lots of threats."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "For almost 50 years, these wicked"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "extremists have been attacking the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "United States while chanting the slogan"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "death to America or death to Israel or"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "both. They are the world's number one"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "state sponsor of terror. We are the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "world's greatest and most powerful"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "nation. So, we can do something about"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "what they do. These intolerable threats"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "will not continue any longer."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "I once again urge the revolutionary"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "guard, the Iranian military police to"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "lay down your arms and receive full"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "immunity or face certain death. It will"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "be certain death. won't be pretty. I"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "call upon all I radiant patriots who"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "yearn for freedom to seize this moment"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "to be brave, be bold, be heroic, and"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "take back your country. America is with"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "you. I made a promise to you, and I"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "fulfilled that promise. The rest will be"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "up to you, but we'll be there to help."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Thank you. God bless you to our"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "incredible warriors and God bless the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "United States of America."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> Now, militarily, how will this goes?"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "That's a real tough call. You know, I've"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "been looking at Larry Johnson's work"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "today. Larry put together a great story"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "involving all the various types of"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "aircraft on both sides and the types of"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "missiles and so forth and so on. The"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "truth is this"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "uh this is a big country."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "very large. They have a lot of very"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "bright, capable people. This is not a"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "backward"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "uh desert waste disposal plant. This is"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "a serious country with a long and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "distinguished history. These people are"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "not going to surrender. They're not"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "going to submit to Israeli hijgemony on"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "the basis of our threats. So, they're"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "going to fight. What have they got? They"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "have an almost an exhaustable arsenal of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "missiles and at least 2,000 of them fall"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "into the theater ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "category, maybe a few less, but it's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "close to 2,000. Then they have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "other medium-range ballistic missiles,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "cruise missiles. Some of these are of a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "relatively new variety from China, uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "including missiles designed to attack"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "and demolish or even sink ships. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "range though of course is an issue and"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the radars are an issue. We know that"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "the Chinese have provided some very new"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "state-of-the-art radars that"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "theoretically can look out to 420 430 mi"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "and even identify stealth aircraft at"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "that range. On the other hand, we have"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "extraordinary aircraft. There's no"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "question about it. This is the largest I"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "think uh collection of modern aircraft"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "fifth generation and fourth generation"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "that the world has ever seen. And this"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "these aircraft can reach out far beyond"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "the normal range thanks to the weapon"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "systems they carry. We don't need to go"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "through all of them, but they have the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "capacity to destroy a number of these"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "radars at a distance, at a standoff"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "distance, but we don't know the range of"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the missiles that will be fired at them."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "In some cases, some of these are Russian"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "in origin, but a lot of them are also"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Chinese."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "So, to answer your question, worst case,"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "uh we could have uh our bases utterly"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "destroyed in the region. They may"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "actually be able to go all the way out"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "to nearly the Red Sea and beyond Israel."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "We don't know. We know that they see"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "everything. They have satellite-based"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "uh from China and and Russia. We also"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "know that they have agents on the ground"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "who can pick up the proverbial cell"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "phone and call. So, there are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "people out there that are going to help"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "them and they've got lots of"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "information. The real question is how"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "tightly integrated are these air"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "defenses? How much experiences on the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "ground? I'm told there are hundreds,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "maybe as much as many as 2,000 Chinese"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "on the ground in Iran helping the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Iranians. I would not be surprised if"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "there are not some Chinese pilots on the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "ground ready to climb into the cockpit"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "and fly some of the new aircraft that"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "have been delivered to Iran. Then of"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "course you have the Russians and the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Russians have excellent intelligence."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "They've got lots of ships. They've got"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "lots of submarines. I think the Chinese"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "have submarines and ships out in the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "area. I don't know how many of are"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "currently stationed outside the straight"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "of Hormuz, but there are several. All of"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "this suggests that we could take losses."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Could we have 500 casualties? Sure."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Could we have only three or 400"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "potentially? Can we kill thousands of"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Iranians? Yes. There's no question about"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "it. So, the losses the Iranians will"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "take will be disproportionate because"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "this bombing campaign, air and missile"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "campaign is is not designed to induce"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "compliance with Mr. Netanyahu's demands."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "It's designed to disintegrate the state,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "to fragment the society, to induce chaos"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "in the hopes that all of this will"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "collapse like a house of cards. I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "think it'll work, but I think that's the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "real purpose behind it all. And the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "question is, how long can we keep it up?"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Because just within the last few days,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "you've had the former prime minister"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Naftali announce on Israeli television"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "and to the whole world that if you think"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "uh Iran is a tough problem, we think"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "that Turkey or Turkey is now the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "greatest potential threat to Israel,"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "maybe greater than Iran. So, I think the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "whole thing is about we've got to beat"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "everybody into submission and and submit"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "to uh uh Israel. That's it. That's the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "goal. I don't think it's attainable, but"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "I think that's the goal."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> But I haven't seen any evidence, even"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "when I was still inside the CIA to"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "indicate that they were trying to build"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "a nuclear bomb. And even if they had"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "one, they don't have a delivery system"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "for it anyway. So Iran is no threat to"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "the United States. I don't believe"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Benjamin Netanyahu when he says that"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "it's an existential threat to Israel."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "It's Israel that's the existential"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "threat to Iran. Iran's not the country"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "that has had a history of attacking all"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "of its neighbors. It hasn't attacked its"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "neighbors. Israel certainly has attacked"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "its neighbors. And so, this is just one"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "of those, you know, another in a long"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "line of madeup crises where the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "try to either talk us into or trick us"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "into doing their dirty work for them."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> I think President Trump is running an"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "enormous risk. This is not something the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "American people want and are prepared to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "support. This country today is radically"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "different from what it was in 1990."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "I remember when uh you know we deployed"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "to the desert in 1990, we came back in"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "1991."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "There there was this sort of outpouring"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "of pride, satisfaction and happiness"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "that we had erased frankly the the stain"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "of dishonor from Vietnam. Not because of"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "the things that we did there. We did a"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "lot of things wrong, but because people"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "were disappointed that we lost. You"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "know, Natalie, I don't see that here at"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "all right now. People are saying, \"Wait"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "a minute. What happened in Minnesota?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "You You went there. You were challenged"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "by the governor. You packed it in. You"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "surrendered. You left. You can't do"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "that. This is a war we have to win"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "inside the United States. We must"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "enforce federal law.\" You've done a good"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "job thus far on the border, but you"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "haven't stopped all the human"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "trafficking and and the drugs. Look at"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Mexico. It's a catastrophe. We have to"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "protect ourselves from that. What are we"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "doing? You know, these are the things"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Americans voted for President Trump to"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "do and they they haven't done it. So, I"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "I agree with you. I don't think this is"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "marketable at all. And if we were to"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "take sudden losses, substantial losses,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "I think the pressure would be to cut"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "bait and get out. People are saying what"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "are we doing this for anyway? The danger"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "is that we we suffer terrible"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "reputational damage around the world all"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "on on in the belief that not only are we"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "making the the region safe for the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Israelis, we're also attacking China by"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "attacking Iran. After all, Iran supplies"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "all this oil and if the Straits of"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Hormuz close, we're going to destroy the"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "global financial system. You know, I I"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "don't see an upside to this at all. But"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "it's very clear. I just got this recent"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "bulletin in. These talks are over. There"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "could be no compromise. Well, gee, I I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "so shocked that Witoff and Kushner could"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "not bring the Iranians to their knees."}]

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And I think one of the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "reasons we're seeing so much tension"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "around Iran is because Iran right now is"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "the big leakage in the system."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> How?"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> but it's not about their nukes."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> No. So, well, you know, Iran's central"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "bank counts. One of the reasons it"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "counts is because their oil and energy"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "is very important, including for China."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> Um and that's very important in the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "brick system. What the brick system is"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "trying to do is to create independent"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "payment systems."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> But if you're going to come out with"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "programmable money with digital IDs that"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "are interoperable globally and"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "programmable money that that controls in"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "each jurisdiction centrally, you can't"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "afford leakage. And so you've got way"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "too much leakage in the system to"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "proceed with what they're trying to do."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "And Iran is and the brick nations are a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "sticking point. And certainly Iran's"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "oil, you know, feeding China gives China"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "greater independence."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "So you think that one of the motives"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "behind toppling all these governments"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "was the creation of the control grid"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "we're talking about now,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> right? So if you go back, so you had the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "wonderful Richard Warner on your show"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> and Richard has a book called The"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Princes of the Yenne"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> which is about the sort of effort to"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "over to take over the the Japanese"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "central bank. And I think what you're"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "looking at I think part of the state of"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "play with both Russia and Iran is how"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "are you going to make sure that those"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "central banks are entirely in the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "system."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> So yeah, that was an amazing interview."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Um, and he told the story about writing"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "this book on the Japanese central bank."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "I can't imagine a more obscure topic"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "from my non-economically minded"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "standpoint. It would be like writing a"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "book on postcards from the Faulland"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Islands. It's like, okay, a book on the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Japanese Central Bank. Um, and he said,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "\"Well, actually, they suppressed it. I"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "couldn't get it published in the United"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "States, and you can't get a copy.\" And"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "that's like checkable. So, I checked it."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "You can't get a copy of that book. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "really hard."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> You can I think you can order from his"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "publisher right now."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> Right. But I mean that like why would"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "someone try to suppress?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Because it shows you the truth. It takes"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "you right into the secret governance"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "system and it shows you the me the the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "primary mechanism by which they"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "implement policy."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it's always the things"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "you're not allowed to say are probably"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "the important things, right? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "whenever they penalize you for having a"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "thought, you're probably on the right"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "track. Well, it's it's it's one of the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "critical train tracks of control. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "it's what I call the third rail. So, I"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "used to finance transit systems and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "train systems. So, uh you know, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "these systems have two tracks that the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "wheels go on and then they have a third"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "rail that the power line runs on and you"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "get a tin trap that flips over and and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "sucks the energy from the third rail. So"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "a lot of the things that really operate"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the third rail are very invisible and"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "and for example in central banking to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "listen to talk about tier one and tier 2"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "and tier three capital at the BIS and"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the banks. There's nothing more boring."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "It's designed to absolutely"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> I just fell asleep in the middle of that"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "sentence. Exactly."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Exactly. Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Is it boring by design?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "I you know it the way you're taught to"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "talk about it is boring by design you"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "know and but but the it's like the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "mechanisms of the legal system. If you"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "look at the mechanisms of civil"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "procedure or criminal procedure you know"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "it can and you get into the weeds on it."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "It can be very boring unless you"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "understand the application and and and"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "that can make it very interesting. But"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "but the capital most people don't"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "understand the capital you know sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "regulatory system and yeah it can get"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "very very boring."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> Can you just for people who haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "your previous uh talk explain what the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "control grid is what it looks like and"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "what it means? So the control grid is a"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "process or an infrastructure that allows"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "digital technology to be used to assert"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "phenomenal surveillance and control of"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "people. And at the very heart of it is"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "what I call programmable money. So it's"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "money that is no longer just a currency."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "It's money that comes with a set of"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "rules that can be surveiled and forced."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "So imagine back in the pandemic if if"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "your money if I said okay you've got to"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "lock down and your money won't work if"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "you leave your house you can't buy gas"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "in your car because your money is"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "programmed with AI and software to"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "enforce a whole set of centralized rules"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "and and programmable money allows the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "bankers who've been running monetary"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "policy to now control fiscal policy and"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "essentially replace legislatures and"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "executive branch by making and enforcing"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the rules through the money. Now that"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "requires a a large infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "of surveillance. So you need digital IDs"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "and then you need the hardware locally"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "and globally to to do the surveillance"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "and implementation. So for example, if"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "you look at the local hardware and now"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "people are seeing it, you know, now that"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "it's material, they're beginning to see"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "it snap into place. So, I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "you know flock cameras, but there are"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "many communities across the United"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "States that are entering into contracts"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "paid by the taxpayers to put up cameras"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "all around their neighborhood that track"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "license plates and keep that data and"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "share it with a variety of people. or"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "you have uh the FCC is trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "overrule local controls on cell towers"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "so they can literally put cell towers"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "every 400 to 700 feet so that they can"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "have the kind of invasive surveillance"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "you need or you have satellites now that"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "can literally beam in Wi-Fi so that"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "whether you have Wi-Fi in your home or"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "not they can start to track you and all"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "those systems come put you in what I"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "call the panopticon so we saw in the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "Middle East with the first war with"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Iran. We saw 11 leaders out of 12 sort"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "of top leaders in science and and"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "government assassinated because they're"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "literally tracking everyone and they"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "they can identify them and track them"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "and then you have invisible weaponry"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "that can then take them out or you know"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "can identify missile strikes. So"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> may I ask you about so you're talking"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "about the 12-day war against Iran in"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "June of 2025."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "We were led to believe just as newspaper"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "readers or news consumers that those 11"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Iranian officials were targeted with"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "human intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "you know, that Israel had spies inside"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "of Iran. But you're saying that was done"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "digitally."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> That's probably I would assume that"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "that's probably true because you always"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "want to get human confirmation of what"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the systems are telling you. It's always"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "better if you have both. But um but we"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "are now moving into uh building out the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "kind of surveillance systems"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "um that can literally track, identify"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "and integrate with not only our existing"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "weaponry but ultimately autonomous"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "weaponry. So So anyway, so let me step"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "back. You've got three parts to the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "control grid. Um, one is the local"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "hardware and infrastructure and that"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "includes the data centers because if you"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> the data I thought those were for AI."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> They are because if you look at what it"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "takes to apply the equivalent of a"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "social credit system to people's money."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "So the social credit system I apply to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "you is different than the one I apply to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "me. And if you look at the data I need"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "to track you and test whether or not"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "you're following the rules I've given"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "you and enforce those rules, it's an"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "explosive amount of data, particularly"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "because you're looking not just at"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "financial control, but spatial control."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "So what is AI good at, Tucker? AI is"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "very"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> spatial control movement control."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Yeah. So turn off the car. So"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Congressman Massie is trying to kill the"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "kill switch in your car. That's because"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "spatial control means I can turn off"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "your car or I can set it so your money"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "won't work more than a mile from your"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "home or a 15minute city. So you"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "literally you're not allowed to leave"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "your 15-minute city and your"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "transportation and your money won't work"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "outside of that area. So So let me step"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "back. So So what is AI good at? AI is"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "very good at tracking things that can be"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "expressed mathematically and financial"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "transactions and spatial movement can be"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "expressed mathematically. And so what"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the AI centers are for primarily is to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "build that digital control grid and to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "manage that data. So and now it can be"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "used for many other purposes too. So"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "it's not just going to be used for"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "control, but to me that's the primary"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "purpose. And that if you look at the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "cameras, if you look at the cell towers,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "if you look at the satellites and then"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "the AI, the data centers, those are all"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "component pieces of the local hardware."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "So there are three sort of pillars that"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "I track. One is the programmable money"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and that's what we at Solaria are trying"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "to stop. Uh the second is the digital ID"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "because you need a global you need"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "digital ID systems that are"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "interoperable globally and then the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "local hardware and those are sort of the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "three pillars and what's interesting is"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "there's phenomenal development of all"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "three. We have a commentary at Careri"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "where we track it's called the fast"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "approaching digital control grid and"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "every week we update all the things that"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "are being done to build those three"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "pillars and have them integrate with"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "each other. And ever since the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "inauguration, it's been moving very very"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "quickly. Okay."}]

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So, this says, \"Look, we've"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "got this grand idea of how we're"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "basically going to drug people and do"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "all kinds of weird experiments on them"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to see if we could control their minds."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "These documents don't show that anything"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "was actually done. It just shows that"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "we've got these really crazy ideas and"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "they're extremely unethical, inhumane,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "terrible, terrible ideas.\" The 1977 leak"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "of documents say, \"Oh, yeah. Well,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "actually, the government did it. They"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "did all of those terrible things they"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "said they were doing in that previous"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "memo. They did it. And now here's some"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "of the archives that we have from when"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "they did all of those terrible things."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "So, okay, these documents, special"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "research for artichoke, dated April 21st"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "of 1952, the memo proposes developing"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "long-term covert drugs that could be"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "slipped into daily life. Drugs that were"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "quote administered over considerable"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "period of time, possibly being placed in"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "food or water that caused either"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "agitation or depression. These quote"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "should include chemicals or drugs that"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "can be effectively concealed in common"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "items such as food, water, Coca-Cola,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "beer, liquor, cigarettes, etc. and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "should also be capable of use in"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "standard medical treatments such as"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "vaccinations and shots. We can do all"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "this other experimentation which nobody"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "will know about. It's sneaky. Sneak it"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "into their Coca-Cola. Sneak it into"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "their beer, their cigarettes, their"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "vaccines, their medications. Let's sneak"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "it all in. So, there you have it."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Oh, those wild conspiracy theories. But"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "the CIA also made sure most of this"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "would never be seen by the public,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "destroying most of the files. 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Plus, they have a strict no"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "logs policy, which means they don't"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "track or store any of your browsing"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "history, so your privacy stays private."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "One click and you're protected. No"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "complicated setup required. That's why"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "we use Private Internet Access. Get 83%"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "off and 4 months free using our link for"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "a limited time. You can click the link"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "in the description to try it out today."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> They were experimenting on American"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "citizens. I hate conspiracy theories"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "that run a muck. But you know, a former"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "CIA director is the one who came up with"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the term conspiracy theory to discredit"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "people by making them sound like crazy"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "people when in fact there was such a"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "thing called MK Ultra, Operation"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Grasshopper or MK Chickwit. You know,"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "the CIA did crazy crazy stuff from"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "roughly 1952 to 1975. The Chinese told"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "us in like 1951"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "that the Russians were using LSD to try"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "to engineer it to be used as a mind"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "control drug. That was disinformation."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "The truth was the Russians had no LSD"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "program. The Chinese did. So they tried"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "to throw us off the off the scent by"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "blaming the Russians."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "We panicked and by 1952 we started this"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "program called MK Ultra which began by"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "using LSD experimentally. They started"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "by dosing their own employees without"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "telling them. Several committed one"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "jumped out of a hotel window."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> Doing them with what?"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> LSD"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> with the hope that"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> see if we can control them. see if we"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "can plant memories that didn't actually"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "happen. Then they decided, \"No, it's not"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "a good idea to dose our own people."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Let's just dose strangers out in"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "public.\" So they went to San Francisco,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "rented a safe house. They hired"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "to go out on the street, pick up John's,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "people who hire, bring them back to the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "safe house, dose the John's with uh LSD,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "and just see what happens. But I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "these are like serious"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "crimes you're committing against people."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> The CIA paid workers to lure men to safe"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "houses where agents drugged them and"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "then watched them through oneway mirrors"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and recorded their behavior."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> They tried to erase their personality."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> Nice, huh?"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> The goal was often to break and rebuild"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the human mind. In 1973, the CIA"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "director ordered mass destruction of the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "MK Ultra files. That day he testified"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "before the church committee. The church"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "committee specifically told him do not"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "destroy any documents. He went back that"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "afternoon to the CIA and said destroy"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Because it it was damning. They were"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "experimenting on American citizens. They"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "were they were experimenting by"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "spreading diseases in American cities."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "He was fined like $150"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and um about 15% of the documents were"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "overlooked and survived. We'll never"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "know exactly what happened under MK"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Ultra. I'm confused. I"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "I think there is something strange going"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "on. Like what a what an odd time for us"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "to be alive, you know, in all of human"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "history. What an odd time for us to be"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "having this conversation right now. So I"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "think there's something strange going on"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "but I don't I don't know what and even"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "in the simulation like the simulation"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "theory there people talk about that at"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "many different levels."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> One thing is sure our consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "what we define as reality is only a"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "small part of what is really going on."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> I would say that our consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the only thing we can be sure that's"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "really going on"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "and it's certainly the most important"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "thing going on to any of us. But yeah"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "there's it's an unusual time to be"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "alive. And guys, just to put into"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "perspective how advanced this technology"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "already is, the network says the host"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "was created without a single frame of"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "realworld filming, making a completely"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "digital human that capable of delivering"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "a nuanced on camera performance. We're"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "in the early innings of what's going to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "be some big changes."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> Scary scary."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> That's why when we flub all the time,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "you know that we are real."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> Yes. Upside."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> So, so the first thing I just want to"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "clarify here, Dr. Remble is what you're"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "suggesting is that children who have"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "been born to parents to one or both"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "parents who claim to have been ab"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "abducted abducted genetically have the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "the the genetic inheritance one would"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "expect"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "of a child of two parents but inserted"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "into that into their genetic uh"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "structure are sequences of DNA which"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "have no origin in either of the two"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "parents."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> Yeah, that's the idea. That's the idea."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "I didn't prove it. Again, I didn't prove"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "it, but I developed a method which can"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "easily prove it. So, I need more data"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "and now anybody can do it. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "essentially the idea was that that if"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "there was a genetic manipulation,"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> it seemed like a normal news report"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "until the end"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> because I'm not real."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Last night, UK audiences watching a show"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "about AI taking jobs, stunned to learn"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "that was happening in front of their"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "eyes."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> In a British TV first, I'm actually an"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "AI presenter. I wasn't on location"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "reporting this story. My image and voice"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "were generated using AI. Before that"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "point, the documentary had shown the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "host reporting in multiple settings,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "explaining it was part of a deliberate"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "on-screen stunt to show just how"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "convincing artificial intelligence has"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "become. The dramatic reveal just the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "latest demonstration of AI's growing"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "influence."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> Three seasons and a podcast."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> Last month, Hollywood responding to the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "debut of a 100% AI generated actress,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Tilly Norwood. you are suddenly"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "up against something that's been"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "generated with 5,000 other actors."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> But fears of AI's growth going beyond"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "the screen with many American workers"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "worried about the very question posed in"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "that documentary."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> So we want to find out, will AI take"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "your job? One major AI company,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Anthropic, has said the technology could"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "eliminate up to 50% of entry-level jobs"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "as it improves."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> At some point, we're going to get to AI"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "systems that are better than almost all"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "humans at almost all tasks."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> But many saying the technology also"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "creates jobs. And a recent study showing"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "that benchmark app chat GPT has not"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "upended the labor market. But during the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "massive growth of AI, a reminder of just"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "how realistic it's becoming."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "The idea is that we are we were"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "manipulated by the aliens all through"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "history from from ancient times"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "and uh but there is also recent recent"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "abductions recent manipulations."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "So we are hybrids ancient hybrids but"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "but also we're continuously being"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "upgraded improved changed. 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A"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "short time ago, the United States"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "military began major combat operations"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "in Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Our objective is to defend the American"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "people by eliminating eminent threats"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "from the Iranian regime, a vicious group"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "of very hard, terrible people. Now is"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "the time to seize control of your"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "destiny and to unleash the prosperous"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "and glorious future that is close within"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "your reach. This is the moment for"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "action. Do not let it pass. May God"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "bless the brave men and women of"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "America's armed forces. May God bless"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the United States of America. May God"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "bless you all."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> And Mr. Netanyahu has been saying the"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "same thing for 25, 30 years. And I think"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "what we have to accept right now is that"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "today"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the Zionist billionaires who helped to"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "fund this thing we call Apac and have so"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "much control and influence over Congress"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "are finally going to get what they want,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "which is a war they hope will destroy"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Iran. Now, I know people talk about"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "regime change."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Uh regime change is something they hope"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "will will come about. But they're"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "resigned to the truth that the only way"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "you're going to get regime change, that"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "is a new government, isn't that if you"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "reduce Iran to a smoking ruin. And I"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "think we're going to watch as an"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "enormous amount of American firepower at"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "sea and in the air is used to do"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "precisely that, inflict irreparable"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "damage on Iran."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> And what is the goal here? Is it like"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "what it is in Syria to create chaos, not"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "to create a stable Iran? Of course, the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "media is advertising, you know, they've"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "got the son of the shawl. They're"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "trotting him out and everybody laughs"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "that knows the situation about him. But,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "you know, is the real situation to"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "basically create absolute chaos and"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "destruction in Iran to leave them"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "smoldering in ruins and and schismatic"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "fighting?"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> Well, the argument is twofold. first of"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "all that Israel lives in a state of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "permanent threat because none of the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "people that border Israel and none of"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the Muslim Arabs or Iranians in the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "region will accept the existence of"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Israel. Uh that's been the argument from"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "the beginning. I I don't think it's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "entirely accurate because we have had"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "plenty of evidence that many of the Arab"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "states that are in close proximity to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Emirates actually do accept Israel's"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "existence as a fact and they're they're"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "not interested in going to war to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "challenge it."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Well, the second part of it is that"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Israel will never be safe until everyone"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "in the region essentially accepts their"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "hegemony enforced by US military power."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "And I think that's something that is a"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "serious problem right now. people are"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "are listened to uh Ambassador Huckabe"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "recently with Tucker Carlson and have"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "watched this thing called the Greater"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Israel Project. Now realize"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "that this is this war is not just about"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "revenge for whatever happened on 7"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "October which increasingly looks like"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "something that was allowed to happen by"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "the Israelis."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Uh this is really about establishing"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Jewish supremacy across the entire"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "region. Now that's one level. Then"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "there's another level beyond this and"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that is that the United States"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "thinks that it has a permanent interest"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "in hostility with China and that"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "whatever we can do to weaken China andor"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Russia, we should do. When you look at"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "it from that angle, the idea is that"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Iran is a principle or key state in the"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "growing edifice of states that"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "constitute this thing called bricks. I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "sure your audience has heard that term."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Bricks consists right now of I think"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "roughly 10 members. Eventually, I think"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "it will probably have almost a hundred,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "maybe more. And virtually all of these"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "states that are interested in bricks see"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "bricks as not only a trading a"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "commercial opportunity, but a way to get"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "out from underneath the American"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "financial system. Because we've used our"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "financial dominance to punish and bully"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "virtually everyone in the world who"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "wants to do something that we don't"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "like. We actually bully our friends. And"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "if you look at the tariff war that"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "President Trump has been waging, that is"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "part of the larger financial grip that"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "the United States wants to retain on the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "rest of the world. So on one level very"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "very high strategic level we are"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "fighting against a future we don't like"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "a future in which we are not the only"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "superpower a future in which we have"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "peers in other words other states with"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "power equivalent to our own whether it's"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "financial economic or military and"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "that's very uncomfortable for us. We we"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "really do want to be in charge. Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "So, that's part of it. And we've decided"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "that the best way to demonstrate that is"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "not only to destroy Iran effectively,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "destroy it, cause its disintegration,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "its collapse,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "but also to gain control of its oil"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "resources and prevent China from uh"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "benefiting from them. Because China"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "right now is probably the largest single"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "buyer of Iranian oil."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "And I think at least 30% of the oil that"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "the Chinese mil scientific industrial"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "complex consumes is from Iran. So this"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "is a way to get at China. This is a way"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "to undermine them and the people's minds"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "and to deprive them of oil resources"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "that they need."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Now that I don't necessarily subscribe"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "to that view. I don't think it's an"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "intelligent way to look at the world"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "these days, but that is a strongly"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "widely held view in Washington. And then"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "of course they view or want to view"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Israel as a beach head for power and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "influence that we can exert. Uh we can"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "use Israel to extend our own power and"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "influence. The Israelis of course they"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "see this as a an exercise in reciprocity"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "because our military power exists to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "eliminate in their minds anyone who"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "challenges them. And here's something"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "for your listeners that they need to"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "follow up on. Just within the last oh"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "week and a half,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "this man named Naftali"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "uh who was a former prime minister of"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Israel preceding U Netanyahu"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "made a speech in which he characterized"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Turkey as potentially an even greater"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "threat to Israel than Iran."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Uh and this is uh really gotten a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "people's attention in the region. Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the Turks are a great power and much"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "like Iran, they are a civilizational"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "state. They represent"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "u a thousand years of Ottoman history"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "and dominance in the region and"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "influence."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "And the Turks are watching what's"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "happening right now. And they've reached"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the conclusion that if Iran is in fact"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "defeated and falls apart, not only will"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "they be the victims of this"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "disintegration, because they'll end up"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "with potentially millions of refugees"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "pouring from Iran north into Turkey or"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "into Syria or into the Caucasus into"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "surrounding countries. Uh they also see"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "themselves as being next on the menu for"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the Israelis. If they are potentially an"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "even greater threat to Israel than Iran,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "it seems uh natural that Israel will"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "then turn next to Turkey, demonize it,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "and ask us to help them destroy Turkey"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "or destroy Turkey for them."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "All of this is bad news in my judgment"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "over the long haul because it's causing"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "everyone in the Islamic world to"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "recognize number one, we're all at risk."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "In other words, all of us are potential"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "opponents, adversaries, enemies of"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Israel that could be targeted for"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "destruction. And the United States is"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "now effectively in military terms,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "diplomatic terms, strategic terms, uh a"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "vassel of greater Israel that we exist"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "to do whatever it is that the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "government and people and their"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "advocates at home, principally the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Zionist billionaires, uh want us to do."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "And capturing control of Congress and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "the White House financially, is a stroke"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "of genius because people rapidly become"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "accustomed. They develop an appetite for"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "money and what money can do for them."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "And this Israeli money, we call it"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Israeli, it's not. It's a it's American"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "money from Zionist billionaires that"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "support Israel. Uh is now seen as"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "something that nobody really wants to"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "live without because they also know that"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "if you contradict them in terms of"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Israel policy towards Israel,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "there's a very high probability they"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "will not only stop supporting you, they"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "will support whomever your future"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "opponent is."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "So, it's a it's a it's a very dangerous"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "situation. And I think we have to admit"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "that President Trump would probably not"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "be in the White House today without the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "substantial financial support of these"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Zionist billionaires."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> Yeah, it's uh it's deeply disturbing to"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "see, you know, the Democrats are going"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "along with this as well. They're giving"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "tepid"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "tepid uh you know, push back. Um they're"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "saying, \"Oh, no, stop. Don't.\" basically"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that kind of tone, you know. Oh, why"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "would you ever think of that? Because"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "they know that there's good political"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "points to score with um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "trying to let Trump own this himself so"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "they can sink his party completely as"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the zombie George W. Bush party that it"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "is. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> well, there's there's something else,"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "David, too, that we shouldn't lose sight"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "of. Uh, I think the Democrats are are"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "also on on the same team when it comes"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "to Israel. Let there be no mistake about"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "it. But I think everybody in Washington"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "is sort of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "ignoring what Americans think or want"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> because most Americans, I don't think,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "are paying a lot of attention to what's"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "happening in the Middle East. For the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "average American, oh, this is another"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "country in the Middle East. Oh, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "probably weak. So, we bomb them. uh they"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "do what we tell them to do. Why are we"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "worried about this? I have other bigger"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "fish to fry here at home. I think that"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "that's more widespread than a lot of us"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "think. Americans are not looking at this"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "as something that could become a serious"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "threat to them, their way of life and so"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "forth. And they're wrong."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Iran is not just another backward Middle"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Eastern country that has no chance of"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "whatsoever of fighting effectively"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "against us. They do. They are certainly"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "not in the same category of military"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "power as we are. There are several rungs"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "below that. But they can defend"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "themselves and they will fight. And how"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "much punishment they're willing to"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "accept is something I can't evaluate."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "But I think it would be a mistake to"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "assume that after a few days or a week"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "or two weeks, the Iranians are going to"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "hoist the white flag and surrender. I"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "don't think that's going to happen. And"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "so then the question is, what happens to"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "us economically? Because inevitably this"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "is going to disrupt traffic through the"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "straits of Hormuz. And that traffic is"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "not only going to disrupt the flow of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "oil to China, it's going to disrupt the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "flow of oil to Japan, to Vietnam, to all"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "of the countries in Asia, to people in"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "Europe, even to us. And it's going to"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "send the price of oil through the roof."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "I would expect the price to rise"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "somewhere north of $100 a barrel easily."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "That's going to have a big impact here"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "at home."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "We haven't even talked about the"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "fragility of our finance system. You"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "know, we're we're piling piling up debt"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "at a horrendous rate and there's a real"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "danger that financially we could"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "collapse. Something that nobody in the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "United States could imagine, but we"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "could actually face an internal"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "financial crisis far far worse than"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "anything we saw in 2008. And this time I"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "would not expect any bailouts. So, I"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "always tell people, which is what Luke"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Roman and uh Ray Dallio and a host of"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "other smart people tell you, is look at"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the bond market and when that 10-year"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "bond yield reaches 5%. That's probably"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "the end of us. Right now, it's down in"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the low fours, 4.2, 4.3%. But if it hits"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "five, we got a lot of problems. We can't"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "service the debt. And everybody knows"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that we can't ultimately pay it off."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "It's it's 38 trillion and rising. So"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "these things are in the background. This"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "kind of conflict or crisis could crash"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the market. You know, if there's one"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "thing financial systems hate, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "crisis. Conflict that is out of control."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Con financial markets like stability."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Stability in price, stability in"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "purpose. And that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "threatened by this as well."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": ">> Yeah. So, it's a mistake to assume this"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "is just another bombing exercise into"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "the sand in some remote part of the"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "world that doesn't matter to us. That's"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "not true. We haven't even talked about"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Chinese and Russian strategic interests"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "because China and Russia are allied at"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "least in the sense that they are trying"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "to achieve the same thing which is this"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "cross-continental"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "belt and road project that would link uh"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "everyone in western France all the way"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "to Shanghai via rail and commerce and so"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "forth. And Iran is a big player in that"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "because it has borders uh on the Arabian"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "and Indian oceans and uh they can ship"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "out uh goods and services like everybody"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "else. So we we have to understand this"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "is a much bigger picture at risk than"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "most Americans think."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": ">> Yeah. You know, just seeing the um"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "latest from AP News just published 30"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "minutes ago. US Iran nuclear talks wrap"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "up with no announcement of a deal as"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "risk of war looms. Um they were meet"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "they're currently meeting in Geneva and"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "just before the talks ended the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "state television reported that tan was"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "determined to continue enriching uranium"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "rejected proposals to transfer it abroad"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "and sought the lifting of international"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "sanctions indicating that it was not"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "prepared to meet US President Donald"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Trump's demands. Trump wants a deal to"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "constrain Iran's nuclear program and he"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "sees an opportunity while the country is"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "struggling at home with growing dissent"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "following nationwide protests."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "Um, do you see uh Iran budging on this"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "issue and giving up the uranium uh"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "enrichment?"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": ">> No, because I think it's a for the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Iranians it's an issue of sovereignty."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "The Iranians have not built a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "weapon and they have said that they have"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "no intention of building a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "weapon and thus far they've held to that"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "belief and that's validated. They do not"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "have a nuclear weapon. Israel does. Uh"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "it has probably at least uh two to 300"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "systems and warheads that it can utilize"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "to deliver nuclear strikes from"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "submarines and from the air and from the"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "ground. Of course, Israel has never"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "signed the non-prololiferation treaty,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "whereas Iran has, and it has abided by"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "that. But the enrichment they have"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "insisted they're interested in is for"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "medical purposes. And there are other"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "industrial reasons to do it in the event"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "that you eventually want to build a"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "nuclear reactor that will provide you"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "with some power. That's happening in"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "many, many Middle Eastern countries"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "So, I I don't think that the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "can meet these demands. And these are"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Mr. Netanyahu's demands, his were very"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "simple. Number one, no nuclear"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "enrichment. Number two, limit the range"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "of your ballistic missiles. That means"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "that you can't have any any missiles"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "whatsoever that under any circumstances"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "could ever reach Israel. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "finally, you have to abandon your uh"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "allies in the region. Anyone who is"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "associated with you, you have to isolate"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "yourself from them. This is the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "destruction of Iranian society. uh and"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "submitting to this would be essentially"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "admitting that you too have now become a"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "vassel of greater Israel and that's"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "something that the Iranians are not"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "going to do. So I I've thought for a"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "very long time this is sort of a straw"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "man that was set up to be knocked down."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Uh and that's what's happened and I"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "think we're going to go to war. When's"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "this going to happen? It could happen in"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "24 hours, 72 hours. I I don't know."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Although I would say uh to March I think"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "is the new moon and since I view large"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "numbers of people inside the beltway as"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "lunatics, I think there's a distinct"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "possibility we could bomb Iran on the"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "new moon on the full moon."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": ">> I'm being somewhat humorous."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": ">> Yeah. You know, uh we have right now"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Steve Witoff and Jared Kushner"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "representing America's interest, which"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "is a joke. You know, these are a Zionist"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "occupied kind of delegation here."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "There's no interest representing America"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "in this conversation."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": ">> Well, I think there's something else"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "that everybody should know, and that is"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "that the Secretary of State has flown"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "down to St. Kits for some sort of"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "international conference down there"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "involving Latin America. Why isn't the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Secretary of State sitting across from"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "the foreign minister of Iran and"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "negotiating directly? That's why we have"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "a Secretary of State. Why are these two"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "men who have never been confirmed by"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Congress, not that that's absolutely"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "necessary, but why are they envoys for"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "the president when they have absolutely"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "no background in events in Iran or or"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "about the Middle East or Russia or"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "Ukraine or anything else? And yet"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "they're these these envoys are talking"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "on one day to the Russians about the"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Ukrainians and the next day they're"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "talking to uh the Iranians about what we"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "want and demand from them and what"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Israel wants and demands. The whole"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "thing is very unprofessional"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "and it doesn't look serious at all to"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "me. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> What would you think if you were if you"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "were an Iranian foreign minister and"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "found out the secretary of state flew"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "down to the Caribbean while you're"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "holding talks with these two envoys of"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "the president?"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": ">> Well, it seems like just the way I look"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "at it, Marco Rubio looks like the junior"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "partner to those two gentlemen and uh"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "he's taking care of Israel's interest in"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "South America and they're taking care of"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "Israel's interest in their own backyard."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "That's how they're they're, you know,"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "they're kind of cutting this up, it"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "looks like."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Well, one theory is that Secretary Rubio"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "is preoccupied with his goal of"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "liberating Cuba and getting control of"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "the rest of Latin America."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": ">> Well, that's Israel's interest."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> The Israel, the Zionist mafia would like"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "to go back to that island. They enjoyed"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> Well, that could be, but all I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> casino mogul, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": ">> Rubio has moved away from both the"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Russian and the Iranian negotiations."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "It's very strange. It's the last thing"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "you would expect from a Secretary of"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "State. So, it it's disturbing and it it"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "looks bad. It does not reflect"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "positively on the United States and our"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "government."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": ">> Does Trump have any ability to say no at"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "this point? It it seems like he's not"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "really running anything. He's just kind"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "of doing a good speech. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": ">> well, let's stop and consider the fact"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "that frankly there has been no change"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "in the policies towards Russia in"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "Ukraine since Biden left office. In"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "fact, you could argue it's actually"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "gotten worse."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "And many people, including the Russians,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "thought that President Trump would be a"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "breath of fresh air, that he would step"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "in. He would recognize the war was lost."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "There's no point in Ukrainians dying in"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "great numbers any longer."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "But that's that that doesn't seem to"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "have had an effect. It's back to what I"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "was discussing earlier, what you"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "mentioned really at the beginning. We're"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "not getting the truth about what's"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "actually happening in Ukraine and what"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "has happened in Ukraine. We're getting a"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "lot of nonsense from the thousand"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "versions of Pravda inside the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "media. You know, you can't turn to"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "mainstream media any longer and and get"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "the unvarnished truth. Everything is"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "shaped. Everything is dissected, edited,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "reassembled to send a message. So, we"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "become the Soviet style state in that"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "sense."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "So, how do you how do you tell Americans"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "the truth? Because it's very difficult"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "for the average American. How much time"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "every day can the average American spend"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "on these topics? He has to put food on"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "the table. He's got to got to make food"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "for his family. If you're a single"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "mother, you work and you work and you"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "work. Uh what can you expect from the"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "average American?"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "The good news is that the average"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "American has a lot of common sense. And"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the average American has said, \"Well, I"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "don't think we should go to war against"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "Iran. Sounds like a dumb idea. I thought"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "we elected this man to stop all of the"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "wars. What's happened now?\" That's good."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "I'm glad that's happening."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "Unfortunately, it doesn't make any"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "difference to the people on the hill or"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "the man in the White House, all of whom"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "are in receipt of huge quantities of"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "money. And we haven't even begun to"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "discuss all the side deals that have"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "been going on in the Middle East and in"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "Eastern Europe. when Msure's Kushner and"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "Witco show up, uh, they're very"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "interested in whatever they can do to"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "line their pockets and increase the"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "wealth of themselves and I guess the"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "Trump family. It's very discouraging. We"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "went through this with to some extent"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "with the Bidens and Hunter Biden and all"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "that nonsense."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "It just is a never-ending story. It"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "makes you wonder why you bother to vote"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "at all."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": ">> Yeah. And then the one really important"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "thing that President Trump has done is"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "to finally go to war over the border and"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "immigration"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "and he ran into some opposition in"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Minnesota and he folded."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "He shouldn't have folded."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": ">> You know, everybody knows who's grown up"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "in any major city in this country how"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "tough it is to be a policeman. I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "care if you're a federal or a local"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "policeman. Doesn't matter. If you are in"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "the conduct of your duties, it becomes"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "clear that you're going to arrest"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "someone who has allegedly broken the"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "law, no one should interfere with you."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "And anybody who does interfere with you"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "should face arrest,"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "uh, a fine, and mandatory incarceration"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "for two weeks or 30 days. We haven't"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "done any of that. A a governor of the"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "state of Minnesota, Mr. Waltz has said"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "he doesn't want to enforce the law."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "Well, do we pick and choose which laws"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "we enforce in this country? I mean, what"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "what does it mean to be an American"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "citizen? If there is no rule of law,"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "where are we as a society? We're on the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "road to ruin."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "That's where all of us hoped that"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "President Trump would focus and on"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "election integrity. And there he's"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "pushed the right ideas. He's pushed the"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "right ideas on illegal immigration. And"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "he's done, I think, a good job on the"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "border, but it's not enough because"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "illegal trafficking, human trafficking,"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "illegal drugs are still coming over. And"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "huge quantities of money that that come"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "out of these deals for human beings and"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "drugs are going back south to the"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "cartels."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "So I I guess my my frustration is we're"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "focused overseas on things that are not"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "of vital strategic interest to us. Iran"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "does not present a threat to us. Iran"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "isn't trying to build an"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "intercontinental ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "designed to carry warheads and destroy"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "us. That's nonsense. Those are lies. Why"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "would they? Unless they have a, you"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "know, a passionate suicide wish. We have"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "enough nuclear capability in this"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "country to destroy most of the planet."}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "The Russians do as well. This is insane."}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "That's not what this is about. So, what"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "are we doing? And I don't think"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "President Trump has ever sufficiently"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "explained the answer to that question."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "He he needs, you know, he he says,"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "\"Well, Iran must never have a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "weapon.\""}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "And everybody applauds. Oh, that's fine."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "uh they don't have a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "They've said they don't want one. They"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "have to promise they will never have a"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "nuclear weapon. Well, what about us? How"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "many promises have we made to people and"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "then broken them out, right? President"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Trump threw out the JCPOA,"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "I guess, because it was negotiated under"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "President Obama. That actually"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "constrained"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "uh Iranian behavior. It had an impact."}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "He threw it out and now the Iranians are"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "sitting across from us and we're making"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "these additional demands."}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "They're not going to subscribe to those."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "They're never going to sign up for it."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "People don't trust us. What happened at"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "Anchorage? You know, he went there and"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "he had a meeting with uh the Russian"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "leadership and the Russians walked out"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "of there feeling, well, this is this is"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "a good beginning and it looks like we"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "may be on our road to a solution. We're"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "very grateful. And then what do they"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "find? It was completely meaningless. It"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "was a photo op. There was no substance"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "to it. Too much of what President Trump"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "does is about optics."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "So, you know, the other point is that"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "increasingly as you look at the federal"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "government in Washington, you begin to"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "conclude it's in business for itself,"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "not for the United States or the"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "American people."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "Well, listen. I apologize. I get off my"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "soap box. No, I think you're right. But,"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "uh, you know, this isn't going to change"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "overnight apparently until it does, I"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "guess, because, um, like you said, the"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "voting thing doesn't really do anything."}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "I mean, look at look at how much they"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "did to try to, you know, rig it against"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "Trump. And yet, even when he gets in,"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "he's exactly what the establishment uni"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "party wants. So, what would they"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "actually do to a real threat,"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": ">> to an actual outsider? I mean, give me a"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "break. I mean, Trump's name is in"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "Epstein's uh uh you documents over and"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "over and over again. He was thoroughly"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "vetted as one of the establishment"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "figures. And yet they still put that"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "much resistance allegedly. Maybe it was"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "all Kabuki theater after all to make him"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "look like, you know, maybe it was all"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "Kabuki theater. They wanted him to make"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "make him look like he had so much buy in"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "as the underdog that you would just"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "forget about what you saw right in front"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "of you, you know. Well, let's stop a a"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "minute and uh don't you remember people"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "standing up in the audience uh at the"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "State of the Union address and saying,"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "\"What about Epstein?\""}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "No, nobody said anything. Who's Epstein?"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Epstein is becoming the man who never"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "was. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": ">> Now, the interesting thing is that from"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "Norway to Germany and all over Europe,"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "they're discovering that some of their"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "political elite have in fact uh done"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "business with Mr. Epstein. Whether or"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "not that's financial or sexual or"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "whatever it is, I have no idea. But you"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "know what they've done? Those people"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "have been forced to resign. And there"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "are investigations"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "and people are demanding accountability."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "What are we doing? Who's who's under"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "investigation?"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "And is the investigation going to lead"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "to anybody being jailed and held"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "accountable? I don't think so. It looks"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "to me like, you know, Epstein was the"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "man who never was. He's going to vanish"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "and we're going to move on down the"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "road. Nothing to see here. Nothing to"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "see here. Keep moving. I think that's"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "what we're dealing with."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": ">> What do you think he was really up to?"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "Was he a CIA guy or a MSAD guy or a"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "multi- uh, you know, multi- agency guy?"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "I mean, how does that work in your"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "opinion?"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> Well, is he he's a self-avoued,"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "self-described Jewish supremacist"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "who views everyone else who is not a Jew"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "as inherently"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "second rate or subhuman."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "So, that would indicate that his"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "allegiance is certainly to things that"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "are Jewish. I rather suspect that he did"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "some excellent work for the se for the"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "uh Mossad"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "and his girlfriend Jalain Maxwell, her"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "father was a Jewish national hero,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "received a state funeral and he was an"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "active uh espionage agent for Israel in"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "the MSAD. So yeah, I think it it's"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "largely for the MSAD, but he also had"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "close ties with the Rothschilds and"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "other very wealthy Jews in the United"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "States and around the world. I also"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "think he was interested in making"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "contacts in the scientific community"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "with the goal of bringing new science"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "and technology back to Israel. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "quite certain that he kicked uh various"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "crumbs to the CIA to keep them on board"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "and let him do what he was doing by"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "providing them with blackmail"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "information. I mean, the most valuable"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "commodity right now in Washington DC is"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "blackmail."}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "Have they got you on tape? Where did"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "they get it? In the Mayflower Hotel or"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "down there on uh St. James Island? Uh"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "well, it doesn't make much difference."}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "the idea is the same thing. If you've"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "got somebody doing something that is"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "clearly illegal or embarrassing,"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "then you've got control of them. So, I I"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "suspect there are lots of people in the"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "Epstein file, not just uh our president,"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "but lots and lots of others. And we know"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "that from what's happening overseas."}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "you know, the uh former head of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "uh unit in Pakistan, John Kuryaku, who's"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "been on my show in the past several"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "times, I've seen him making the rounds"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "recently and some of the clips I've seen"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "him talking about something that kind of"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "puzzles me is the relationship between"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "Israel and the CIA. You know, we've"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "heard for years, oh, in the conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "world, oh, if anybody killed uh JFK, it"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "was probably the CIA and the mafia and"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "blah blah blah."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:51", "text": ">> Uh and then you hear, oh wait, no,"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "there's this other narrative that makes"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "the case that maybe Israel had an"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "interest in seeing him out. And then you"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "taught John Kuryaku and he talks about,"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "well, the CIA does not think highly of"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "of Israel and, you know, has its own"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "issues with them and you know, so how"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "what is that relationship like? Are they"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "rivals or are is they a subunit of one"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "another or what is going on there?"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": ">> There's very clearly an exchange of"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "views and information between the"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "intelligence agencies MI6 in London, the"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "CIA in the United States and the Mossad."}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "Now, what what people like or don't like"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "doesn't matter. If you receive orders"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "from your superiors and you're told to"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "cooperate with someone, then you do it."}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "uh that you whether or not you like"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "those people doesn't make any"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "difference. Uh this is back in 2007208"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "I was down at the Naval Service Warfare"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "Center and one of the uh engineers who"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "was on contract with the Navy was upset"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "because he had been told to bring uh"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "Israelis in to look at the work that he"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "was doing. And he told me he said we're"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "not happy about this. This is very"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "sensitive work and we know the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "have taken these things in the past and"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "if they thought they would benefit from"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "it uh they would hide it but if they"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "thought they needed it for some reason"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "to resell they've resold it to other"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "powers most specifically China. And so"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "there were a lot of people that were not"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "happy with it. What could they do about"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "it? Nothing. Because the orders had come"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "down from a very high level."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "And this has been going on for some"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. That's it's pretty wild to"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "see. And um I'm I'm just hoping that"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "Americans can finally and the world can"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "finally turn a page on this this this"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "century of needless war that"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": ">> Well, the problem is that this is not"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "new. If you go back to the 1930s under"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "Franklin Roosevelt, his administration"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "filled up literally with NKVD agents as"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "well as large numbers of Soviet"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "sympathizers."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "and these people actually profoundly"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "influenced the policies that he"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "developed and ultimately implemented."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "Uh it it it's very upsetting. There's a"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "wonderful book that goes into some"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "detail about it called Stalin's War."}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "Uh and that's uh I'm trying to remember"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "the name of the man that wrote it, but"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "uh if you Google it, Stalin's War will"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "come up. It's brilliant work. The man"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "spent a decade or more putting it"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "together. He had access to the NKVD"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "archives as well as the thea intercepts."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "And I tell everybody who can to read it."}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "I've tried I tried to convince somebody"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "that we should give a copy of it to"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "every graduating cadet at the military"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "academy. Uh I I think it's something"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "that Americans need to know. It's very"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "very upsetting, very frustrating. What"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "you discover is that McCarthy was not"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "wrong."}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "What what what are you uh what can"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "people do about it? I know that you're"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "involved with different projects. What"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "would you point people to to be active"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "in changing things?"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": ">> Well, right now, you know, we we've"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "begun something now. You know, Olga Ravi"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "and Olga and I have tried to put"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "together an organization called the"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "National Conversation. The original idea"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "is to go around the country about four"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "times a year. uh each each event would"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "be in a different city in a different"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "part of the country not just to go there"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "and bring additional people who will"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "speak but also to listen to the audience"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "to let the audience express their views"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "because we really want to know what"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "Americans think. Uh and that's something"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "that nobody that's a question very few"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "people in Washington ever ask. What do"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "you mean what the Americans think? I"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "don't care about them. I care about my"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "donors. Remember, donors get you"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "elected, not votes, not voters."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "So that's the attitude in Washington. We"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "want to get past that. And also, we want"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "to somehow another form a foundation,"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "build a foundation for a third way"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "forward because it's increasingly"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "obvious that these two parties are"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "joined at the hip. They have"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "differences. There's no doubt about it."}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "But on the whole, on too many issues,"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "they are co-conspirators."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "And that's why I said the government"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "seems to be in business for itself. Most"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "of these people seem to show up have of"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "modest means."}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "The average congressman shows up. He's"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "worth maybe a quarter of a million"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "dollars. He leaves years later and he's"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "worth 10 or 12 million. How does this"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "happen? Well, it's insider trading. It's"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "lobbying. It's a whole range of uh"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "self-enriching opportunities. Our our"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "our whole system of government's in"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "trouble. I mean, let's face it, it is."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "I appreciate your time, Colonel"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "McGregor. It's always good to have you"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "on, and I know that uh we're hoping that"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "this war can be averted, but it just"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "seems like a perpetual motion machine as"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "long as as long as we have DC, there"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "will be a a constant drum beat for war"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "with Iran. Um, and that civilization has"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "been around a long longer than America"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "has. and uh I don't think that they're"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "going to take kindly to being an"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "occupied subject of uh you know Zionists"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "and their interest. So"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": ">> well in the meantime uh anybody who's"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "interested go to nationalcon"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "conversation.org org. See what's there."}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "We have a platform. See the kinds of"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "things we've been doing and you'll have"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "the opportunity if you want to donate to"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "donate to it. Uh we're very fortunate. A"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "lot of really good people are joining us"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "because I think more and more people"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "feel that they have to become involved"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "because we're going to have to staff a"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "new government at some point."}]

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And like we said, this is"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "just scratching the surface. This goes"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "very deep."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "During the time much of the world was"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "shut down during co"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> breaking news"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "a new norm."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Dr. Matthew Alfred was at his home in"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "the UK when he received a strange"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "delivery to his door."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> I think it was literally in lockdown you"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "know I was doing nothing in my life as"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you can imagine and I got a letter"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "through the door um and it was from the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "CIA and I thought this is bizarre."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Dr. Alfred is an author and lecturer of"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "the University of Bath, who specializes"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "in studying the relationship between the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "entertainment industry in the US"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "military. After opening the envelope,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Dr. Alfred found himself reading the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "personal emails of one of the most"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "famous figures in Hollywood. Why have I"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "got a letter from the CIA? And why now?"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Why am I reading all of Ben Affleck's"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "emails?"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Then he remembered 8 years prior to"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "receiving the letter, he'd filed a"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Freedom of Information Act request"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "seeking to find out if the CIA had"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "secretly worked on the 2012 film Argo."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "In the movie, which was also directed by"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Ben Affleck, Affleck plays a real life"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "CIA operative named Tony Menddez. 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We all fly out together as a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "film crew."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> I need you to help me make a fake movie."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> So, you want to come to Hollywood and"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "act like a big shot without actually"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "doing anything?"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Yeah, it'll fit right in."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Though the film was a hit and won an"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Academy Award for best picture, some"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "critics were quick to point out the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "liberties Affleck seemed to take with"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "the story of what actually happened."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Many critics noted how the Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "film version seemed to inflate the role"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the CIA played in the rescue. The"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Canadian magazine McClean's wrote, \"The"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "movie rewrites history at Canada's"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "expense, making Hollywood and the CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the saga's heroic saviors while Canadian"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "ambassador Ken Taylor is demoted to a"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "kindly concierge.\""}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "In response to the criticism, in later"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "versions of the film, Affleck would"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "change the on-screen postcript text to"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "read. The involvement of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "complemented efforts of the Canadian"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "embassy to free the six held in Thrron."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "To this day, the story stands as an"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "enduring model of international"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "cooperation between governments."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> And now, a brief message from our"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "sponsors."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> Selling to the Department of War is"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "hard,"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "especially if you don't know who to talk"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "to, where the real buyers sit, or how to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "find funding. 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If you're serious"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "about selling to the military, go to"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "sbiradvisors.com"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "and if you mention SCOP, you'll get your"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "first month free."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> And now back to our program."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> What Dr. Alfred wanted to know is if the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "CIA itself was involved in Affleck's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "artistic liberties with the story. Dr."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Alfred is the author of the book"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "National Security Cinema: The Shocking"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "New Evidence of Government Control in"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Hollywood, and co-produced the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "documentary Theaters of War. He and his"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "fellow researchers frequently submit"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Freedom of Information Act requests to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "learn about the CIA and the military's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "efforts to influence the movies and TV"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "shows Americans watch. As it turned out,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the CIA was very involved in supporting"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Argo. And of course it was that I'd put"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "in a Freedom of Information Act request"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "in 2012 that had taken over 8 years to"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "come through. No one knew that there'd"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "be an actual uh contact between uh CIA"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "and producers for that show until this"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "information came through. So there are"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "several of these shows that actually"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "whether they intended to cover it up or"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "not basically the information didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "come out that they had been working on"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "those that they had been working closely"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "with the producers."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "And in many cases, the changes that the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "CIA and military branches were making to"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "major blockbusters and TV shows weren't"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "just minor tweaks to characters for"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "accuracy. What Dr. Alfred and his"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "colleagues have uncovered is that in"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "many cases, the military directly"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "oversees key elements of mainstream"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "entertainment. Dr. Alfred uncovered that"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Affleck even visited the CIA"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "headquarters to meet with key figures"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "there in the leadup to the movie."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "However, documents Dr. Alfred reviewed"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "show that permission to film at the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Langley campus was only given after"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "several script reviews by the CIA."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Emails between officials at CIA called"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the film a quote good news CIA story. In"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "an interview with the Guardian leading"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "up to the movie, Affleck acknowledged"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "the primary similarity between what his"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "job as a Hollywood director is and what"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the CIA does, deception."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "One of the themes of Argo is is about"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "storytelling and how powerful it is."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "From political theater to um the way we"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "kind of communicate to our children to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the way that we inspire people, you"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "know, and it's interesting that"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Hollywood and uh you know, the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "clandestine services are both spend most"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "of their time convincing people that"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "something that's not true is in fact"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "true."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> He also added this half joking"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "observation."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> I think probably Hollywood is full of"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "CIA agents and we just don't know it."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Um, and I wouldn't be surprised at all"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "to discover that, you know, this was"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "extremely common."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> But Affleck was already familiar with"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "what it was like to work with the agency"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "when he collaborated with them on Argo."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "He'd previously worked with them on the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Jack Ryan film The Sum of All Fears. His"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "former wife, Jennifer Gardner, starred"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "in the TV show Alias, where she played a"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "super spy. The series was supported by"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "the CIA, who worked closely with"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "producers on it. Garner would even be"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "featured in a recruitment video for"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "future spies."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> I'm Jennifer Garner. I play a CIA"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "officer on the ABC TV series Alias."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "In the real world, the CIA serves as our"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "country's first line of defense in the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "ongoing war against international"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "terrorism. If you're an American citizen"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "and seek a challenging, rewarding career"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "where you can make a difference in the"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "world and here at home, contact the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "agency."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "But what Matthew Alfred and his"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "colleagues have discovered is the"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "connections go deeper than most in the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "public can imagine."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> The US military has worked with"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Hollywood producers for about 110 years"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "or so. As Dr. Alfred explains, the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "military has long seen value in being"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "able to affect how they are portrayed on"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "screen."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "And indeed, even the very first film"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "that was ever made, pretty much the mo"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "first political film was literally the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "um uh the Spanish flag coming down and"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the American flag going up in 1898 in a"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "little black and white uh 10-second"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "movie. But really the relationship"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "became much stronger between the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "military and the department of defense"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "in the immediate aftermath of the second"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "world war when there was the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "establishment of the entertainment"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "liaison office in the Pentagon and when"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "all this architecture of national"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "security really came into being in the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "mid late 1940s. World War II was sort of"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "a golden age of government propaganda"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "and military scops. Starting in 1942,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "the military was looking for ways to get"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "messages behind enemy lines. In many"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "cases, SCOP methods like dropping"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "leaflets were too dangerous in access"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "control areas. However, they saw an"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "opportunity in one of America's popular"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "new trends, scanning the radio dial."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> If sudden pain ever hits in your head or"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "nerves, there's an easy way to make it"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "fade. One of the shest ways to feel your"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "best is the simple pleasure of being"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "smartly dressed."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> At the heart of the American tradition"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "lies an economic system built on"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "opportunity and initiative."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> Particularly popular were shortwave"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "radios. Unlike stations found on the FM"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "and AM dials, shortwave signals weren't"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "subjected to the same kinds of"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "regulations that control major broadcast"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "frequencies. Unlike AM and FM signals,"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "shortwave radio signals bounce off the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "ionosphere and can be transmitted around"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "the globe, even by amateur radio"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "operators. That means that if you have a"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "shortwave radio transmitter strong"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "enough, you can broadcast your message"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "anywhere on Earth, even behind enemy"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "lines. Shortwave broadcast soon began"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "sending news about the war all over the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "world. World News Today brought to you"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "by Continental Radio and Television"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Corporation by shortwave broadcast"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "direct from important overseas capitals"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "as well as the leading news centers of"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "our own country. CBS correspondents are"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "waiting to bring you a complete report"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "from the world's political and"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "battlefronts."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "FDR saw an opportunity to send"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "pro-allied messages into enemy"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "controlled countries and create the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "office of war information."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Part of their job was to operate the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "shortwave broadcast of a new outlet"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "called Voice of America. Listeners"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "located anywhere on Earth could hear the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "news of the world, often from a"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "perspective advantageous to American"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "interests. These type of broadcasts"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "remained an important part of American"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "psychological operations throughout the"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Cold War with the Soviet Union."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "The crucial element of his stay in China"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "will of course be his talks with Chinese"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "leaders. The idea of using media as a"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "method of influence had long interested"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the intelligence agencies with the CIA"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "identifying movies specifically as"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "powerful instruments of warfare in a"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "1943 memo titled the motion picture as a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "weapon of psychological warfare."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "The stated objective of the formally"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "classified document is to quote exploit"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "the potentialities of the motion picture"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "as a weapon of psychological warfare for"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "the United States. Here's an excerpt"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "from the memo."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": ">> The motion picture is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "powerful propaganda weapons at the"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "disposal of the United States. It can"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "serve many diversified functions. Motion"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "pictures are a potent force in attitude"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "formation and attitudes are the basis of"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "action and morale. Motion pictures can"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "stimulate or inhibit action. Motion"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "pictures are important in all the major"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "types of psychological warfare. Directly"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "in general propaganda, indirectly in"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "connection with certain aspects of"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "subversive, economic and diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "propaganda activities. Motion pictures"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "can be employed on most of the major"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "psychological fronts. They can be aimed"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "at the people of countries allied to the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "United States, of the countries occupied"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "by the United States or her allies, or"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "countries neutral to the United States"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "to inform and to create attitudes"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "favorable to the United States and"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "unfavorable to the enemy."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "The memo also discusses the quote"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "suppression of motion pictures of enemy"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "origin judged to have potentially"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "subversive influence and makes note of"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "the military national security strength"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "of having an influential US motion"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "picture industry. The products of which"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "have achieved a worldwide popularity."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Domestically, even the White House began"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "to support movies, not just news"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "outlets, like it was doing overseas"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "through Voice of America broadcast,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "which drummed up support for its"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "geopolitical agenda."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "In the late 1960s, John Wayne wrote a"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "letter to President Johnson to say, \"I"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "want to make a propaganda film about"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Vietnam because I believe in this"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "conflict.\" Lyndon Johnson said, \"Fine,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "you have whatever you want to do that.\""}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "They made the film Green Brays."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": ">> The film was not received well by"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "critics."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> If you've ever seen it, it literally"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "ends with John Wayne with his arm around"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "a little Vietnamese kid walking off into"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the sunset with him saying, \"Hey, this"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "this you you little little lad. This is"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "what it's all about, you know, fighting"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "for democracy and like walking off into"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "the sunset.\""}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": ">> The film is not subtle about its"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "thoughts about the Vietnam War, like in"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "this scene in which soldiers answer"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "questions from reporters critical of"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "America's involvement."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "Let me put it in terms we all can"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "understand. If the same thing happened"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "here in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "every mayor in every city would be"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "murdered. Every teacher that you ever"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "known would be tortured and killed."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Every professor you ever heard of, every"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "governor, every senator, every member of"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "the House of Representatives, and their"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "combined families all would be tortured"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "and killed, and the like number"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "kidnapped."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "But in spite of this, there's always"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "some little fella out there willing to"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "stand up and take the place of those who"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "have been decimated."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "They need us, Miss Sutton, and they want"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "The CIA, however, took a more"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "behindthe-scenes approach to using"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "movies for its own geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "purposes. Their involvement in Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "remains clandestine and in most cases"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "unofficial."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "A series of letters were found in the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Eisenhower Presidential Library that"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "would later show correspondence between"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "an executive of Paramount Pictures in"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "1953 named Luigi Laroski and a CIA"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "officer only known as Owen. That"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "demonstrated just how linked the agency"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "was with major studios. Some of the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "discussions in the letters revolved"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "around how characters should be"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "presented to favor perceptions about"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "American dignity, particularly in their"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "interactions with foreigners and films."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Some projects were killed off entirely"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "for geopolitical purposes, like this one"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "called Gringo. Larosk's letter reads,"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:54", "text": ">> \"A comedy vehicle for Bob Hope involving"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Mexico, bandits, etc. very funny but"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "very offensive south of the border idea"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "has been killed done by a US company"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "with a US comedian. It would be most"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "injurious to our Latin American"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "interests."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> Another letter notes this creative"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "change the studio made to a character in"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "a film Paramount was developing."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> We have planted the background for the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "female lead. So wherever the story goes"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "at least this will have a chance of"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "remaining as an integral part. The girl"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "is now no longer an American girl of"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "dubious virtue, but a nice foreign girl."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Whatever she did in her past was because"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "she was on the run after the commies"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "took over the country, which until then"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "had been a very nice place to live in."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Not quite as blunt and corny as this,"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "but in essence, this will be the idea."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Lorasi also provides the CIA officer"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "insights into which studio executives"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "the agency could rely on to perpetuate"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "their messages and which ones quote will"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "have to be guided very carefully."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Despite being active behind the scenes"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "within the Hollywood studio system, the"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "CIA strategy was to remain in the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "shadows and it did not have any sort of"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "formal office to deal within the"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "entertainment industry. For the most"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "part, they didn't even want to be"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "formally acknowledged in the films. The"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "less people knew about them and their"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "real role in Hollywood, the better. They"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "only wanted any sort of acknowledgement"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "as an organization if it meant helping"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "the institution to survive."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Even though the CIA didn't have a a"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "proper uh office, a proper outfit, they"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "were still able to prevent even the"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "mention of the acronym CIA from its"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "inception until 1959. And the first film"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "that even shows CI is I think North by"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "Northwest by Alfred Hitchcock. And"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "Hitchcock removes the A. So although"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "historians have popularly seen the CIA"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "as not involved in Hollywood, it"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "actually did a heck of a lot um in the"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "40s and 50s behind closed doors. The"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "main historian on this particular thing,"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "the person who wrote the first major"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "book about this, he said that if it"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "weren't for the three films that the CIA"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "helped to produce in 1947,"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "probably the CIA itself wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "even existed because that laid the"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "astroturf that that laid the media"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "landscape for people to accept the"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "creation of this new national security"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "body. Though interactions behind the"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "scenes with the studios were common with"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "intelligence agencies, the military took"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "a different approach. They would make"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "their relationship with Hollywood more"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "direct by propping up what is known as"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "the entertainment liaison office at the"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "department of defense. The relationship"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "became much stronger between the"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "military and the department of defense"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "in the immediate aftermath of the second"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "world war when there was the"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "establishment of the entertainment"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "liaison office uh in the Pentagon and"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "when all this architecture of national"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "security really came into being in the"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "uh mid late 1940s"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": ">> for decades though the work of these"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "special DoD officers remained mostly"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "under the radar"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> my identity must remain of secret"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": ">> Dr. Ralphford, Tom Secker, and others"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "got curious about just how involved"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "officials within this office were in the"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "creation of Hollywood projects and"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "started sending out Freedom of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Information Act requests about the"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "offic's work. Eventually, they learned"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "the truth. In some cases, like the one"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "involving envelopes of Affleck emails,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "it would take years to get any response"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "to the requests, but once they started"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "to finally get them in, they made some"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "surprising revelations."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "Until uh recently, the past decade or so"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "when I was first looking into this in"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "the early 21st century, I accepted the"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "consensus opinion from just a very tiny"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "handful of people who were vaguely"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "working on it that there were perhaps a"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "couple of hundred films that had been"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "affected over that sort of hundred years"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "of Hollywood by the Department of"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Defense or the uh US military. That was"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "very inaccurate. It was also misleading."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "We were being deliberately misled by the"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "historians involved and by the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "department of defense. In fact, there"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "have been several thousand products by"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "now which have been impacted by the"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "Department of Defense as well as various"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "other arms of the national security"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "apparatus including the CIA, Homeland"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "Security, FBI and so on."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Let me start with something simple."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Something so ordinary you've probably"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "never stopped to question it. You have a"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "birth certificate. Your parents have"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "one. Your grandparents most likely. And"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "for most of us, that document feels as"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "natural as breathing. Proof that you"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "exist. Proof that you matter. Proof that"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "the world acknowledges you were born. We"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "carry it to the DMV, to the passport"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "office, to the Social Security"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Administration. We treat it like a"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "birthright. But here's the thing. For"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "the vast majority of human history,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "thousands of years of civilization,"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "empire, conquest, trade, and governance,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "nobody needed one. Not a single soul."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "And then within the span of roughly two"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "decades, at the turn of the 20th"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "century, nearly every industrialized"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "nation on Earth decided that they did."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "All of them simultaneously"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "as if following instructions they didn't"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "fully understand."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "That's where I had to start asking"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "questions."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Let's go back not to some primitive"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "chaotic world, but to a world that"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "functioned remarkably well in many"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "respects without stateisssued identity"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "documents for individual citizens."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Ancient Rome cataloged its citizens, but"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "that was census data, household data,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "property data. The household mattered."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "The family unit mattered. Not the"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "individual body, not the individual"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "breath, not the specific moment of"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "emergence into the world as a"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "timestamped numbered event. Medieval"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Europe relied on parish records. Church"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "records kept by clergy tracking"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "baptisms, marriages, deaths. But these"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "weren't government instruments. They"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "were ecclesiastical ones. The church"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "knew you existed. The state largely"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "trusted the church's accounting. And"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "critically, you didn't carry them. You"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "weren't required to produce them to"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "function in society."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "This raises a simple but critical"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "question. If enormous civilizations, the"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "British Empire at its height, could"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "manage millions of people without"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "issuing each one a numbered identity"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "document at birth? What changed?"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "What exactly did the state suddenly need"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "to know that it hadn't needed to know"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "before?"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "The deeper I went into this question,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "the more the standard answers started to"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "feel incomplete. We're told it was about"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "public health, tracking infant"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "mortality, understanding disease"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "patterns, improving maternal care, and"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "yes, those things happened. Those things"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "are real. But they don't explain the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "scope of what was built. They don't"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "explain the infrastructure that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "followed. They don't explain why a"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "document created ostensibly for health"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "statistics became the foundational"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "credential of legal personhood in the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "modern world. That's where the official"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "explanation begins to collapse."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "In the United States, the federal push"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "for standardized birth registration"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "began in earnest around 1902"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "when the Census Bureau established a"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "birth registration area, a voluntary"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "system where states that could"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "demonstrate a 90% registration rate"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "would be recognized as compliant. By"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "1915, 10 states in the District of"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Colombia were in the area. By 1933's,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "just 31 years later, every single state"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "in the union had joined. 31 years for"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "the entire country to restructure how it"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "accounted for every human being born"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "within its borders."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "consider what else was happening in"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "those 31 years. The Federal Reserve was"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "created in 1913. The federal income tax"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "that reached through the 16th amendment"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "also 1913."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Social security would arrive in 1935"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "requiring of course a verifiable record"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "of birth."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "The draft registration of World War I"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "1917 required documentation of age and"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "citizenship. And somewhere in the middle"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "of all of this, the birth certificate"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "quietly became the master key. the root"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "document, the thing from which all other"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "legal identity would grow. Not"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "coincidence, not accident, not the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "natural evolution of a caring society."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "The pattern repeats with unsettling"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "precision. And here's the strangest"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "part. It wasn't just America. Britain's"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "General Register Office, established in"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "1837,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "began mandatory some civil registration"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "of births. But it took until the early"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "20th century for enforcement mechanisms"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "to give those records real legal teeth."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "France, Germany, Australia, Canada, all"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "of them moving within the same"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "compressed historical window toward the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "same system. Different nations,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "different governments, different"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "languages, but the same architecture as"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "if they were all reading from the same"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "blueprint."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Here is where I need to introduce a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "concept that most people find either"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "fascinating or deeply unsettling"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "depending on their disposition."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "In legal theory, there is a distinction,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "a critical foundational distinction"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "between a person and a human being. Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "those words sound like synonyms. In"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "ordinary language, they are. But in the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "architecture of law, they are not the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "same thing. A human being is a"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "biological fact. You are born, you"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "breathe, you exist. That's not a legal"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "determination. That's simply what"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "happens. A person in the legal sense is"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "an entity recognized by the state as"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "having rights, responsibilities, and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "crucially obligations. Corporations are"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "legal persons. Municipalities are legal"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "persons. The word comes from the Latin"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "persona. The mask worn by actors in"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Roman theater. the face presented to the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "public, the role played within the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "system, and what the birth certificate"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "appears to do, what what the deeper I"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "looked, the more it seemed designed to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "do, is create that legal person. At the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "moment of registration, a record is"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "generated, an entry in a ledger, a"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "numbered document. And that document"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "doesn't just describe you. In the eyes"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "of the state, it may in some functional"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "sense constitute you, at least the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "version of you the government is"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "authorized to interact with."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "This raises a simple but critical"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "question. Before 1902, before the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "registration systems, before the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "numbered certificates,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "what was the relationship between the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "individual and the state? And was it"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "different in a meaningful way? Let me"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "walk you through what a birth"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "certificate actually makes possible. Not"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "what we're told it makes possible. A"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "sense of identity, a connection to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "heritage, a record of our origins. No,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "what it structurally enables. It enables"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "taxation."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Not just in the crude sense of the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "government knows you exist, but in the"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "precise administered sense of assigning"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "you a taxpayer identification."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "In the United States, the social"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "security number required issued at birth"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "now practically from the hospital flows"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "directly from birth registration. That"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "number is how the Internal Revenue"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Service knows to come looking for you."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Not for your father's household, not for"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "your family's property, for you, the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "individual unit. It enables"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "conscription. When the American"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "government needed to draft millions of"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "men into the First World War and then"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "again into the Second, it needed"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "verifiable records of age. Birth"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "certificates made that possible at"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "scale. You could not previously have"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "managed that kind of mass mobilization"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "with parish records scattered across"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "private church archives in a dozen"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "languages. It enables benefit"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "administration,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "social security, Medicare, welfare"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "systems, public education, enrollment."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Every single one of these systems is"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "built on the foundation of the birth"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "certificate as the initiating document."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Before you can receive anything from the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "state, you must first be legible to the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "state. And legibility begins at birth"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "registration. It enables tracking not in"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "some lurid surveillance state sense"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "necessarily though that question is"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "worth sitting with but in the simple"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "administrative sense. Where you are, who"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "you are, what name you carry, what"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "status you hold. Marriage records linked"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "to birth records. Death records close"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "the loop. Property records in many"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "jurisdictions tie back to identity"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "documents that trace their route to"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "birth registration. And that's where it"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "becomes impossible to ignore. The birth"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "certificate isn't a record of a life. It"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "appears to be the opening entry in a"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "ledger that will follow that life from"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "its first breath to its last. Once you"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "see it, you can't unsee it. There's one"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "more thread I can't leave hanging."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Because once you understand that the"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "birth certificate creates a legal"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "entity, a persona, a mask the state"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "interacts with, a darker question"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "surfaces. One that legal researchers"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "have argued about in obscure journals"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "for decades, mostly ignored,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "occasionally mocked. What if the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "document doesn't just represent you to"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the state? What if it securitizes you?"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "Here's what I mean. When governments"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "issue bonds, when they borrow against"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "future productivity, future tax revenue,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "future economic output, they need"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "collateral, something real, something"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that will, with reasonable certainty,"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "generate value over time. And in the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "early 20th century, precisely when birth"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "registration systems were being"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "universalized,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "governments were also expanding their"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "capacity to borrow massively backed by"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "the projected economic productivity of"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "their populations."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "The deeper I went into this, the more"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "one question kept surfacing. is the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "registered citizen, the legal person,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "the numbered entity functioning in some"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "structural sense as that collateral, not"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "the human being, not the breathing"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "living person, but the legal fiction"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "attached to them at birth. I can't prove"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "that. I want to be clear. The evidence"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "suggests the question is worth asking."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Not that the answer is settled, but"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "consider the pattern. registration,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "numbering, bonding, taxation, debt, all"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "of it building decade by decade into an"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "interlocking system where the state's"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "financial architecture and its citizen"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "registration architecture evolved in"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "nearperfect parallel, not separately,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "not independently, together. And here's"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "the strangest part. When you try to find"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "where that parallel is formally"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "acknowledged in policy documents, in"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "legislative records, in the public"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "discourse of the era, the silence was"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "deafening. Here is what troubles me"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "most. And I want you to sit with this"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "because it's subtle. When systems this"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "large are built, there is usually a"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "visible transition period. A time when"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the old way and the new way coexist."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "When people debate the merits. When"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "newspapers run editorials. When"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "philosophers and lawyers and citizens"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "argue about what it means to register a"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "human life with the government as though"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "it were a deed of property or a"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "corporate filing. I went looking for"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "that debate. I went looking for the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "philosophical reckoning, the public"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "conversation about what it meant to hand"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "the state the authority to record your"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "child's existence as a numbered entry in"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "a government ledger. The silence was"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "deafening. Not silence in the sense that"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "nobody wrote about birth registration."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "There were public health advocates and"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "statisticians and census officials who"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "wrote extensively about the practical"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "benefits. But the deeper philosophical"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "question, the one about what it means to"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "convert a living human being into a"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "state recognized legal entity,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "that question appears largely to have"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "gone unasked in the mainstream discourse"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "of the era. Why, not why it was ignored"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "by the public necessarily, but why did"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "the architects of these systems not feel"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "the need to justify this aspect of what"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "they were building? Why did the framing"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "stay so relentlessly practical? Infant"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "mortality, disease tracking, demographic"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "data when the infrastructure being"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "constructed was so much larger than any"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "of those justifications required."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "The evidence suggests something much"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "larger was being assembled, something"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "for which the public health rationale"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "was at minimum only a partial"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "explanation."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "I keep coming back to the coordination"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "problem because this is in my view the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "most intellectually difficult aspect of"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "what we're looking at. Not the existence"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "of birth certificates, not the legal"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "theory of personhood, not even the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "expansion of the state's administrative"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "reach into individual lives. All of"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "those things have partial explanations."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "All of those things can be attributed"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "with some effort to the natural"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "development of industrial society and"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "modern governance. But the simultaneity,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "that's the thing. Nation after nation,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "different histories, different legal"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "traditions, different languages,"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "different governments, some monarchies,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "some republics, some in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "revolutionary upheaval, all arriving at"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "essentially the same administrative"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "architecture within the same compressed"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "historical window. The pattern repeats"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "with unsettling precision. And the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "architecture isn't just similar in broad"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "strokes. The logic of it is identical."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "The individual as the unit of"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "administration, the birth event as the"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "initiating moment, the document as the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "legal anchor of identity, the number as"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the administrative handle. These aren't"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "ideas that different societies would"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "naturally invent independently and"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "arrive at simultaneously."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "These are ideas that spread that were"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "shared through what channels under whose"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "guidance driven by whose vision of how a"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "modern society should account for its"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "human beings? Those questions don't have"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "clean answers. And I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "pretend they do. But I'll tell you what"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "the official explanation doesn't account"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "for. The official explanation, public"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "health, infant mortality, the"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "progressive era's faith in data and"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "science doesn't account for why the same"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "solution appeared everywhere at once. It"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "doesn't account for the speed. It"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "doesn't account for the subsequent"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "expansion of the system far beyond any"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "public health justification."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "And it doesn't account for the absence"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "of any serious sustained push back"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "against what was in retrospect a"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "profound restructuring of the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "relationship between the individual and"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "the state."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Before I close, I want to ask a"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "different kind of question not about"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "what was built but about what was"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "replaced. In the world before"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "registration, before the numbered"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "document, before the legal person,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "before the administrative ledger, how"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "did people understand their relationship"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "to the community, to the land, to the"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "broader social fabric? The parish"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "records, the household censuses, the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "clan structures, the community level"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "forms of recognition and accountability."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "These weren't perfect. They were often"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "exclusionary, often unjust, often"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "manipulated by local powers. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "romanticizing them, but they operated on"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "a different principle. They were at"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "their root communal instruments. The"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "community knew you existed. The church"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "community, the village community, the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "extended family. Your presence in the"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "world was acknowledged through"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "relationship, through belonging, not"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "through registration."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "What the birth certificate replaced or"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "at minimum dramatically restructured was"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "that relational form of recognition. It"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "substituted a state relationship for a"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "communal relationship."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "You were real now, not because your"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "community knows you, but because the"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "government has recorded you. That's a"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "profound shift. And it happened so"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "quickly, so smoothly that most people"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "alive today have no memory of any other"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "way of being recognized. Is that loss?"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "Is that progress? Is it both? I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "know. And I think that uncertainty is"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "important. Here is where I have to leave"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "you. Not because the story ends here. It"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "doesn't. It extends forward into social"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "security numbers issued at birth into"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "the digital identity systems being"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "assembled right now into the question of"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "what it means when the foundational"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "document of your legal existence is held"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "ultimately not by you but by the state"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "that issued it. But I leave you here"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "because the most important questions are"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "the ones that remain open. Why in the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "span of 30 years did every"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "industrialized nation build the same"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "system? Who decided that the individual"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "human being, not the household, not the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "community, not the family, should be the"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "fundamental unit of state"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "administration?"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "What was the world like? What was the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "experience of selfhood like before your"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "existence was a numbered entry in a"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "government archive? And what does it"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "mean? What does it really mean that none"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "of us were asked whether we wanted to be"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "registered?"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "You were enrolled in this system before"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "you could speak, before you could think,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "before you could consent or object or"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "even understand the question. And the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "document that proves your legal"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "existence. The one you need to get a"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "driver's license, a passport, a social"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "security card, a bank account, a job, a"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "mortgage, a life as the state recognizes"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "it. That document was not created for"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "you. It was created about you. There's a"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "difference. And the deeper I went, the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "more I became convinced that difference"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "matters. That it has always mattered."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "That someone somewhere understood"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "exactly what they were building. And"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "that the rest of us were never meant to"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "notice."}]

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Um and so those are the systems"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "that we are faced with right now and the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "internet has sort of been this amazing"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "emancipator for for humanity right this"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "show is only possible because of the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "internet otherwise with with traditional"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "media we wouldn't be able to to speak"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "about those topics I feel like that's"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> but at the same time sort of nowadays it"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "has um transformed into one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "biggest threats to human civilization"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "at at the user level at my level, the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "level of the iPhone owner. Um, is it"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "possible to communicate privately with"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "assurance of privacy with another"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "person?"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> That's an interesting question. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "we start with this concept of insecure"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "communication channels. Um, and since"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "every communication channel is insecure,"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "what we employ is end to end encryption."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Um and endstrand encryption allows us to"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "take this information, take a message um"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "lock it securely so that only Tucker and"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Yanik are able to unlock them and see"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "what's going on. And that is a fact. So"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "there have been there have been many"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "cases where um where big players with"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "big interests I guess have have"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "attempted to to undermine cryptography"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "have attempted to to get rid of end"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "encryption to install back doors. Um"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "there has been what is commonly called"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the crypto wars in the 1990s right where"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "um the cipher punks fought for the right"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "to publish open-source um encryption and"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "and cryptography um and many many more"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "cases I guess but at the end of the day"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "I would say that as a realistic"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "assessment this kind of cryptography is"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "secure and it works now that"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "unfortunately is not the whole answer"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "because what we have to think about is"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "now what happens with those endvices"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "ISIS right"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> fair"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> I mean the the message the messenger"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "right that is being sent from Yanik to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Tucker might be secure but now if I"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "cannot undermine and and apply force to"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "this message to to to understand what's"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "what's what's inside well I'm just going"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "to apply force to your phone and that's"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "sort of what's happening so um when we"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "look at different applications for sure"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "there is a whole variety of applications"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "um messaging applications, right, that"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "do not employ um um yeah encryption and"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and security standards and might collect"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "all of your messages and images and"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "utilize them for those those machines,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "right? That that extract as much value"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "as possible from you. Um, but there's"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "applications like Signal that don't do"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "that, that are actual open-source"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "cryptography technology that anyone can"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "verify themselves and um, take this code"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "and turn it into an actual application,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "install it on your phone. All of those"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "things are possible, right? So, that's"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "not the issue. The underlying issue"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "really is that you have this device in"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "your hand that is sort of closed"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "hardware. You don't know how that that"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "thing works, right? It is impossible to"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "understand how that thing works. is"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "impossible to understand how the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "operating system on that thing works."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "And um there's flaws in those systems,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "right? Those are closed systems. There's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "flaws in those systems for some reason"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "because um people don't always have the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "best interests of others in mind. Um but"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "also not always,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> not always,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> but also because people make mistakes,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "right? Honest honest mistakes that are"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "non-malicious. Um, and so I think that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "in general also speaks for the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "importance for free accessible hardware"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "where people with technical skills can"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "play around with and and and find"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "issues. Um, but um, at its core what"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "you're being subjected to right now I"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "would say is tactical surveillance. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and what it means is that there's some"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "actor, can be some state actor, can be"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "someone else that decides that Tucker"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "Carlson is worth to be surveiled. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> I think that has been decided. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> I do. Yeah, I'm getting that sense. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "so tactical surveillance that means that"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "you specifically are being targeted and"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "that is in contrast to strategic"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "surveillance which is this idea of"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "everyone is being surveiled. Let's just"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "surveil everyone, collect every single"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "bit of information and store that for"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the entirety of human history and then"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "someday maybe we'll be able to use that."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Right? So those are those two concepts"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "and um what we've seen over the last few"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "years is sort of a shift away from"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "tactical surveillance towards strategic"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "surveillance. Um and surveillance"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "capitalism has really helped this"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "concept because there's so much data"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that is being locked that can be stored."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "There's so many new devices and"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "applications that can be employed. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and so we see pushes like for example"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "chat control within the European Union."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "That is sort of a backdoor to implement"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "backd doors within all of the messenger"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "applications to be able to scan your"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "applications to uh to scan your messages"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "to take your messages somewhere else and"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "decide whether or not those people like"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "what you're saying within your private"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "messages. Um, so I would say in general"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "as a as a normal human being, um, with"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "your iPhone, you are still able to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "privately communicate. That is still"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "something that that exists. Um, however,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "this this ability has greatly been"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "limited. If there is someone who wants"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "to to see your message, I would say they"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "can, unfortunately. How difficult is it"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "for a determined, say, state actor, an"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "intel agency to say, I I want to read"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "this man's communications, listen to his"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "calls, watch his videos, read his texts."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "How hard is it for them to do that? So I"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "think that and and we can we can look at"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "different court cases that have publicly"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "emerged in regards to Apple for example"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "right where Apple has refused um"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "intelligence um to give them backdoor"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "access to their devices um and what's so"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "important about this discussion that we"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "are having here is that every time"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "you're you're you're building a system"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "where you add backdoor access so that"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "someone in the future can decide to at"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "access and and take a look at what"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "you're writing, right? What that invites"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "is for everyone to do that because a"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "back door inherently is a security flaw"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "in our system. Um, and it's not just"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "some specific intelligence agency that"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "decides to read your messages, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "It's every intelligence agency on that"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "point, right? Um and so that's why as a"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "as a nation you cannot um weaken"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "security by getting rid of privacy"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "without weakening your entire economy"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "cyber security and also social fabric at"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "the end of the day right and the whole"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "strategic positioning of you as a"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "nation. um"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "how difficult it is. Um"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "I would say also from a from a practical"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "operational security standpoint depends"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "on what are you doing with your phone,"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "right? Is your phone this strict device"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "that is only used for messaging or is"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "your phone also using different types of"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "media? Are you sending me images? Are"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "you receiving messages? saw um I think 2"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "years ago there was this this case um"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "where there was a zero day back door um"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "being being used across Apple devices"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "because when I sent you an image and"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "your messenger had auto download on I"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "could get full access to your phone um"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "by sending you a message and you're not"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "not my contact even probably right I"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "just figure out what your phone number"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "is I send you an image the image gets"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "automatically downloaded some malicious"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "code that I have injected gets executed"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and now I own your phone and I can do"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "whatever I want and then end encryption"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "doesn't help you right because I have"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "literal access to the end device that"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "decrypts this information and so that's"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "very dangerous that that has been fixed"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "but I think what it highlights really is"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "that um complexity is the issue here so"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "complexity in the kinds of applications"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "that you're running complexity in the"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "underlying operating system that this"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "device has all That complexity invites"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "mistakes and also malicious security"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "flaws to be installed in those systems."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": ">> People who have adversaries are being"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "surveiled, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": ">> Yes, I think so. I I would say that um"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "tactical surveillance really is is is"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "something that exists. Um I would say um"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "in this battle for privacy, it is"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "actually not the the most important"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "thing to focus on, right? because um"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "this kind of tactical surveillance um"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "sort of I feel like to a certain degree"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "we need to accept unfortunately um right"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "not the tactical surveillance that says"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Tucker Carlson is a journalist I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "like that let me surveil him right"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "that's not the kind of technical"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "surveillance I'm speaking of but um if"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "we if we have legal procedures and"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "actual judiciary warrants in place right"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "I feel like as a society we could accept"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "that um to convert as long as criminal"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "activity"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "We can definitely accept that of course."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> But the fundamental issue really is and"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "that's that's that's sort of so ironic,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "right? That that all of the surveillance"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "sort of um needs to operate under"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "secrecy in order to to function, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "You should not know that you're being"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "surveiled. Nobody sort of has oversight."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "Um not even the the democratic processes"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "are able to have oversight because it's"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "all wrapped in in secrecy. Um so that"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "really brings us to the fundamental"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "issue here also with strategic"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "surveillance surveilling everyone just"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "deciding well um I'll take a look at"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "everyone's phone store everything and"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "maybe I don't like someone in the future"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "then I have this backlog of information."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "So um the important question to consider"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "here is thinking about um is there even"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "a future where from a legal standpoint"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "it is possible to implement procedures"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "that guarantee that there is no secret"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "surveillance in place."}]

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They're real, but I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "them. And and and uh they're not being"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "kept in uh what is it?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Area 51."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Area 51. There's no underground uh"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "facility unless there's this enormous"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "conspiracy and they they hid it from the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "president of the United States."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> There are so many pressures about this"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "subject coming out in the next few"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "months that delaying it much longer"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "would not be proper. And I've advised in"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "a briefing we did for the White House"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that they do not want to be behind the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "curve on this. They want to not have it"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "come out through other countries or in"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "some other way asymmetrically, let's"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "say, and and they want to be ahead of"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "this. So I I think it looks like it is"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "picking up steam. And of course, what"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "actually gets decided by the president,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "you know, I I'm not privy to per se, not"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "directly, but I do think this is coming"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "on a fast track right now. The way that"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "people get discredited is is being"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "called a conspiracy theorist. Uh, and of"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "course I always point out that's"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "different from actually someone who's"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "uncovered a criminal conspiracy, which"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "is what we're doing. So there is a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "criminal conspiracy. It is not a theory."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "It's proven. Uh, it's being taken very"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "seriously by law enforcement now. And uh"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "but yes it when he said that it's"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "exactly what happened to all these other"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "presidents that I've dealt with where"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "they get information and he said it's"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "the first thing he asked about you know"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "he part of that interview he's asked you"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "know what was the first thing you wanted"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "to know about and he said aliens Bill"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Clinton said the same thing. I mean any"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "thinking I don't think W did but I mean"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "if if it's someone who's"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> reasonably smart and with it this is the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "first thing any president wants to know"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "about and that is true but they're not"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "going to get any answers uh unless they"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "are"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ones that are being manipulated like"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Ronald Reagan got some partial answers"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "to manipulate him into putting uh"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "billions of dollars into SDI Star Wars,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> right? um which was actually a it was"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "technically against the Soviet Union at"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that time, but in reality it was uh a"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "black budget money redeployed to target"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "ET craft uh with technologies in space"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "um on NRO satellites and things of this"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "sort, but certainly not the brilliant"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "pebbles. If you Google that and what SDI"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "was, strategic defense initiative, it"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "was really um that boondoggle was some"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "money went to that R&D. Most of it went"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "out the back door to operations that"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "were ongoing targeting and downing"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicles. Uh, so, uh,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "so he knew a little bit, but he was only"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "told, and I was told this by"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Colonel Hullman, H O L M, before he"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "died, who had been on a inter agency"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "committee to try to convince first"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "President Carter. And Carter was too"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "smart to take the bait. Uh, and then"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "President Reagan to buy in to the whole"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Star Wars thing. And he said, he"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "admitted to me, he said the card they"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "played to get Reagan to go along with it"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "was the uh alien threat, which he said"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "he he giggled and so it was totally made"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "up."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> So they manipulated President Reagan"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "into putting authorizing that under the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "ruse of there being an alien threat,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "which of course everyone who really"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "knows the issue knows that that's"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "nonsense. The only threatening critters"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "out there are humans,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> right? So that's so that's you know the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "history of that and Obama had the same"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "thing happen uh that Clinton did. You"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "know the first time I I briefed CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "director for Clinton it was because he"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "and the president had made directed"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "inquiries into this and had been denied"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "access and weren't given any"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "information. And this is something"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "that's mind-blowing though you fast"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "forward to this week where another"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "president says the same thing that he"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "was never got told and they're not"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "lying. I mean, they they would find out"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "information through a source like what"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "we gave them,"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> but in terms of officially being read in"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "or briefed and officially having control"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "over the projects,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> that hadn't happened in any meaningful"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "way since Eisenhower got pushed aside in"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the late 1950s. So, that's what we're"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "trying to fix, of course. Uh but for"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "most people when something like I was on"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "a news show last night with Congressman"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Berles of the House Oversight Committee"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "and this was brought up immediately of"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "course and they showed the clip of Obama"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "and I had to clarify it and I actually"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "was at my DC place and I picked up the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "briefing document. I'm sure you saw it"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "where I said, \"No, this was the"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "president's Obama's briefing document.\""}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "But what he said was that he as"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "president never got directly"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "to see this, you know, like the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "facilities, the craft, all that. And"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "that's true. I don't think he is at all"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "lying."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> Um, so people don't understand his"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "answer. You have to look. He's a lawyer."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": ">> So his answer was very lawyerly,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> right? Very lawyerly."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "um you know and and very slick because"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "it slick"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> slick what what do they say? How do you"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "know they're lying? Their lips are"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "moving. Well, in this case, he didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "have to lie. He just had to say it in a"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "way that kind of didn't make it clear."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> But um but I but then he subsequently"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "had to retract that. I suspect either"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "someone in his circle or someone in"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "national security said pull that back,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "right? Y"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> because he totally reversed it when he"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "he did a subsequent post on X or"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "somewhere I don't know where."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> So that's that's what happened with"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Obama. But that's the backstory of it."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "And it's very similar to the backstory"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "of pretty much every president since uh"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Eisenhower. Um right"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> because I mean let's go all the way back"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "to Jack Kennedy after Eisenhower said"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "beware of the military-industrial"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "complex. Jack Kennedy, we have the tape"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "recording of his chief steward, the Air"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Force guy that ran Air Force One, Bill"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Holden, saying uh to me when I was"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "interviewing him. It was an audio"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "interview. And the man broke down in"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "tears. He says, \"Yes, the President"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Kennedy turned to him and said he's"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "aware of the subject, but the whole"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "matter is out of his hands and out of"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "his control, and he doesn't know why.\""}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> Right? And that was when they were"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "flying over to give the I am a Berliner"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "speech when Kennedy went over there to,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "you know, sort of tear down the iron"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "curtain and the Berlin wall. But um and"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "then of course subsequently he pressed"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "on the issue and was going to dissolve a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "large part of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> um and they killed him. But u and"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "subsequently killed his his brother, the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "attorney general Bobby Kennedy. But um"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "but I think this is the history of this"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "is very interesting. And one of the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "things for those of you interested,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "we are going to be doing a whole week,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "six night six days at our Hot Springs,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Virginia, the in the mountains here in"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Virginia retreat center in May. Um it's"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "sort of that last week of May uh or"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "around that. You'll get a notice about"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "it. um where we're going to do a whole"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "uh week of me unpacking every secret"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "story. It's a big secrets that that I"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "haven't told publicly from 1990 to now"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "of this. Um uh and it it's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "record of the real story of disclosure"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "of 35 years because he's gotten some"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "information confirming this through a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "classified"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "official channel. he couldn't talk about"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "the wear. Um, and I have to say a caveat"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "here. Um, because"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "I refuse to accept a security clearance."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> So, I'll go into a skiff, a secure"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "compartment information facility where"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "top secret informations exchange with no"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "clearance and no NDA in place, no"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "non-disclosure agreement."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> That's unusual. So, I've done that"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "deliberately for 35 years so I don't get"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "hamstrung"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "uh because everything I'm disclosing are"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "things that are part of illegal programs"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that should not have any sort of"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "national security classification on"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "them. That's a abuse of the law in and"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "of itself,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> But if you're a member of Congress, they"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "make you do this, right? So that's so he"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "is restricted. Now, there are other"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "massive huge craft that have been downed"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "over the years,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> So, I'm just I'm saying this as as"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "because I like to be crystal clear with"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "people. I don't want to he on that show"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "has not confirmed that it was the one"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "that I told him about that's in our"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "archive."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": ">> Uh in a covert archive. It's someone"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "that's not disclosed,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> but that was in uh in the mountains"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "outside Soul, South Korea. And there was"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "a massive craft we brought down long"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "time ago, decades ago. And it was so"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "huge that it could not be moved. So"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "where it came down, it had they had to"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "build a building and basically a skiff"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "around it."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> And there it sits to this day. So the"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "implication from the whistle, the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "whistleblower was someone who worked for"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "about eight years"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "with uh baseline clearance across 18 uh"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "unagnowledged special access projects"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "dealing with this. And so that was uh"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "first disclosed to me a number of years"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "ago. And of course I've informed various"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "members of Congress about it. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "apparently they're wanting to go there"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "and and see this. Now, um, it's possible"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "that I'm he may have been told about"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "another large craft that's gone down in"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "other locations. We know this has"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "happened uh in South America. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "happened in Australia. It's happened all"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "over the United States. But he's"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "clearly, the congressman is clearly"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "talking about out of the country. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "now the other point I made on that show,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "because it was only a seven minute quick"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "little news, you know how they are on"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "the news shows. Um, I also pointed out"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that there are facilities here in the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "United States that would be easier to"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "get into because it doesn't involve"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "another foreign government or country."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Um, such as the craft that came down"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "that we down near Fort Sil, Oklahoma."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "And u there came down they had to build"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "they built a skiff for it right there."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": ">> Mhm. uh in that part of Oklahoma and and"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "that's where it sits to this day uh"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "underground in a in a specialized skiff"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and research facility. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "these exist around the United States uh"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "and Congressman Berles did admit that he"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "learned that out not far from DC, maybe"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "45 minutes away, there's a facility"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "where there are craft there also, which"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "is true. So, this is all over, you know."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Um, you know, the mother load would be"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "obviously out by in the high desert near"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "Edwards Air Force Base and the Mojave"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Desert. Um, where there have been so"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "many craft down and the Northern Nevada"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Test Range"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> where you go up near Groom Lake and"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Pahoot Mesa and all that where there are"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "uh man-made UFOs, but we have weapon"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "systems that are electromagnetic pulse"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "weapons that have downed probably dozens"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "if not hundreds of these craft over the"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "decades. Um, and Obama was correct in"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "saying Area 51 per se is not where the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "action is. He probably had heard me say"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "that because it's all moved. That's an"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "old 1950s, early 60s."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> The bigger, more state-of-the-art places"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "are north of there."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> Area 52 and 54, those are just grids on"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "a map, by the way. That's where the area"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "51 comes from. um that are uh really"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "more significant and particularly as you"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "go further north towards Groom Lake and"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "all that. And we have a Green Beret"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "witness who uh was there some years ago"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "on a live fire exercise and saw the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "man-made triangles and and spheres"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "coming from that appearing just suddenly"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "and then going back to their home base"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "going north towards Groom Lake. Um and"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "that's of course you know you have"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Rathon and Northrep and Lockheed"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "operations uh out there and EGNG. So you"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "know um there there's lowerhanging fruit"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "than having to shle to South Korea and"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "getting the South Korean government"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "involved. But um for whatever reason"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "they're pursuing that one right now. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "and that's fine. I mean because that"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "member of Congress and some others have"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "been given enough information by us and"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "are also working with some of our um"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "former military investigators that we"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "have working to to to be getting more"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "and more detailed information. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": ">> So, some of that is information if"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "they've obain obtained it through a top"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "secret process"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "in a government setting, they can't"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "share with me, which is fine. I I mean,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "I don't care. I already have enough"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "data. Um, my goal is to give them enough"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "information that they can then pursue it"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "further and then get this problem"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "resolved, whether it's through law"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "enforcement or executive orders from the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "president or Congress or whatever. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "that's kind of what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "that. But that story,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "it didn't leak out. The congressman was"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "on another podcast and mentioned this."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "And then, of course, had people ask me"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "about it because they've heard me talk"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "about this in the past of there being"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "this massive craft that came down uh we"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "downed outside uh and it's in the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "mountains outside Seoul, South Korea."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> So, that's that story. Now that same"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "whistleblower has identified other"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "facilities here in the states that are"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "key operation facilities and where there"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "are craft and one in particular that he"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "was in personally. So we have that data."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Now, this is why one of the executive"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "orders and what I've recommended to SWAT"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "level or strike force level people in"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "law enforcement in the United States is"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "that those those facilities should be"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "brought under control and those assets"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "retrieved. Um because right now they're"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "operating as its own government above"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "the government. Um and um so we"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "certainly have enough of that"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "information for them to roll is but it's"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "going to take an authorization from the"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "top."}]

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We don't know who"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "the girls are or how old they are. All"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "that has been blocked out as you can see"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "on this video."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Well, you don't know. Jimmy Fallon"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "doesn't know. David Letterman doesn't"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "know. All the comics and show business"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "don't know what this is. I I'm here"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "tonight to blow the lid off it to be the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "whistleblower. I'm sick and tired of the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "secrets and the lies. It is the secret"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "symbol of the Illuminati and you're part"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "of it. And it is the all mocking tongue."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "For years now, talk show hosts, people"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "on television, people in sitcoms have"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "been hired by the government to throw"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "you off the track, to distract you, to"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "make you laugh and stuff like that. Make"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "you happy and docel so you don't know"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "what's really going on. You know, they"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "get out there in the woods in a circle"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "naked and they decide these things. You"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "know what they're trying to do? Who?"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "This thing is buzzing. Hold on. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "trying to turn us into, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "know, consumer drones of some sort. I"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "just got to get this."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> And Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Listen, I'm in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "blowing the lid off some"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "What happened? I'm sorry, Jimmy. I was"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "temporarily interrupted by my iPhone 6"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "PLUS"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "5.5 heads up HD display."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "I think what I was really trying to say"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "was I think people were"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> footage has emerged in the Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Epstein file showing the convicted"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "pedophile being interviewed and asked"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "whether he is the devil. It's unknown"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "when the interview was actually filmed,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "but the material is one of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "videos released by the US Department of"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Justice. Here I am."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> They're celebrating."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> I mean, you got to admit it's completely"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "meaningless."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> Well, they say they're celebrating icons"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "inside."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Celebrating icons. Boy, that is just the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "absolute lowest aiming, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "possibility that we could come up with."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "I I don't believe in icons. Uh I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "believe in personalities. I believe that"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "peace lies beyond personality, beyond"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "invention and disguise, beyond the red S"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that you wear on your chest that makes"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "bullets bounce off. I believe that it's"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "deeper than that. There is no me."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> There's no you. We're not here. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "a dream."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> It's just things happening and there are"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "clusters of tetrahedrons moving around"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> right now because there is a lot of news"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "that actually is relevant. That's not"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> thing. It's not our world. Latest uh"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "trunch of Epstein files from the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Department of Justice contains around 3"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "million documents, thousands of still"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "photographs and hundreds of hours of"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "video recordings. And among them appear"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "to be uh at least some of uh extended"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "interviews between Epstein and Steve"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Bannon, a right-wing pundit in the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "United States, former strategist working"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "at the White House in Donald Trump's"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "first term. He's previously talked about"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "conducting around 15 hours of interview"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "uh with Epstein. They've not previously"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "been aired in any extended form, but"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "there's a couple of hours of what"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "appears to be some of those videos in"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "these uh latest releases. And we can"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "play a couple of minutes of that now in"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "which Epstein discusses being a sex"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "offender."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> is your money dirty money?"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> If you live,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> I just asked a question. Is your money"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "dirty money?"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> No, it's not. So, in fact,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> why is it not dirty money?"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> Because I I earned it my heart."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> But you you earned it. You earned it. We"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "went back to this before. You earned it."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "You earned it"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "advising the worst"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> people in the world, right? That do"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "enormous bad things. Uh, and just to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "make more money."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> So, if I instead of asking me the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "question, should you take the money?"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Because I think it's a legitimate"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> You think it's a legitimate question?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Yes. question because what I because I"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "think about I think you have to ethics"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "is always a complicated subject but I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "can tell you that with the money I gave"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "to help try to eradicate polio"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "in Pakistan and India. Instead of asking"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "me whether that money was should be"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "given to these children for vaccines, I"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "think you might want to ask their"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "mothers who who received the vaccine who"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "know their child now won't get polio and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "ask them if Epstein should have helped"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "these people."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> If we walked if we walked in you're"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "you're a mathematician you're a ma"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "you're a mathematician. We walked into"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "that clinic where they're giving that"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "money out to these people that are in"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "the the most dire rates of poverty and"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "and and and sickness and told them that"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the money was coming from a what are you"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "class three predator?"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> Tier one."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> You're tier tier one's the highest and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "worst."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> No, I said I'm the lowest."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> You're the lowest. Okay. Tier one,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "you're the lowest."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Um but a criminal."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> That the money came from what what"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "percentage of people do you estimate I"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "understand you don't like probabilities."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "who you estimate would say, \"I don't"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "care. I want the money for my children.\""}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> I would say everyone said, \"I want the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "money for my children.\""}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> Did they know where the money came from?"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> If I think if you told him I told him"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the devil the devil"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": ">> himself"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> the devil himself said, \"I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "exchange some dollars for you to your"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "child's life.\""}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Do you think you're the devil himself?"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> No, but I I do have a good mirror."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> It's a serious question. Do you do you"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "think you're the devil himself?"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> I I know. Why would you say that? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "that's right. The latest trove of these"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "files, uh, they shed a new light on just"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "a vast social network that, uh, Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Epstein had and he corresponded with so"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "many people that we all know. A few"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "names that really stuck out to me, Bill"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Gates, the commerce secretary Howard"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Lutnik, Elon Musk, the New York Giants"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "co-owner, Steve Tish. All of these names"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "were people who had some sort of"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "correspondence with Epstein. I found the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the Bill Gates uh content particularly"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "interesting as did many people in the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "United States. There was an email that"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "was released that was actually from"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Epstein sent to himself uh in which"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Epstein claims that Gates got an STD"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "after having relations with uh Russian"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "girls and that uh Gates wanted to slip"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "antibiotics to his wife Melinda without"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "her knowing it. Now, of course, we don't"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "know if these allegations are true or"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "not, but it should be noted that Gates"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "began his his friendship with Epstein"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "years after Epstein's initial guilty"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "plea for for human trafficking of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "minors. Uh, so, you know, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "be this, you know, credible figure on"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "vaccines and this allegedly delicious"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "synthetic meat and climate change and"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "all these things that Bill Gates does,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "it doesn't really make a lot of sense to"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "start a relationship with a convicted"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "human trafficker. So there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "questions, a lot of documents to go"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "through, but that one really stuck out"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "to me."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> It sure does. Bill Gates, I should say,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "denies a lot of these allegations. There"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "have been so many political figures on"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the left named here. The daughter of a"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "former Labour prime minister in"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Australia, Paul Keiting. Also, another"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "former Labour Prime Minister, Kevin"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Rudd. He denies ever meeting Epstein,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "but he's mentioned in some of the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "emails. But of course, when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "our celebrities and the the Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "class and the Grammys, they focus it all"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "not on the left, but on Donald Trump."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "It's quite funny. Uh and I suppose"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "illuminating. He talks about Trump going"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "to Epstein's Island. Uh Trump didn't."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "That's the one thing we know. He never"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "went there."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> Yeah, that's right. Although his name"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "was mentioned many times in in uh these"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "these correspondences, uh even CNN and"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "and many other news networks have"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "conceded that there is just no credible"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "evidence that Trump ever went to this"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "island or did anything wrong really. And"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "apparently the FBI has even looked into"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "the few accusations that exist regarding"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Donald Trump and there's just nothing"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "there. So, the left is looking pretty"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "bad on that one because they've been"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "screeching for the last year that"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "somehow Donald Trump is implicated with"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Epstein in a bad way and it just doesn't"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "look like there's anything there."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> This is from a Harvard professor."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> So, um says, \"Our spy was captured after"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "completing her mission.\" This is from"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the Harvard professor. And Epstein"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "replies, \"Did you torture her?\""}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Okay. Uh what does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Okay, you guys. So Nicki Minaj went on a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "rampage last night on Twitter and it was"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "all triggered by the Grammys. Now what"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "am I talking about? Trevor Noah took"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "some shots at Nicki Minaj last night at"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "the Grammys. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> Nicki Minaj is not here. She is not"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "she is"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "she is still at the White House with"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "Donald Trump discussing very important"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "issues. Actually, Nikki, I have the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "biggest ass. I have it. Everybody's"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "saying it, Nikki. I know they say it's"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "you, but it's me. Look at"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it. Look at it, baby."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> And y'all already know Nikki was going"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "to respond to that. She posted, \"Trevor"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "refuses to come out the closet when"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "everyone in the industry knows his"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "boyfriend allegedly.\" And you see, she"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "posted Jay-Z, but then she started going"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "in on Jay-Z. She said, \"Your favorite"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "artist has been practicing rituals in a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "satanic cult where they take babies from"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "other countries and mutilate and kill"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "them as a form of blood sacrifice to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "their god.\" You see, when your master is"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Satan, you must constantly shed blood."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "However, the jig is up. And her saying"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "this really caught people's attention"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "because people have been accusing Jay-Z"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "and Beyonce of being a part of a satanic"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "cult for years. They have been accused"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "of being a part of Illuminati. So for"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Nikki to come out and say this is right"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "up the alley of what people have been"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "giving Jay-Z a side eye for for years."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Then she said, \"Are y'all understanding"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "that these people have been sacrificing"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "children as a way of gaining and"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "maintaining power? If you ever vote"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Democrat again, you're just as soulless"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "as they are and will perish.\" Maybe it's"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "time for me to do some story time since"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "I was trying to not say what I know yet"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "they continue to attempt bullying. Also,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "I won't be releasing an album until my"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "contract is renegotiated and until I"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "tell you about all the sabotage this"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Rico is finding out about Billboard. And"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "as you can see, she has a picture with"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Jay-Z and it says age 26 and Aaliyah age"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "15 and Jay-Z and Beyonce says age 27."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "And we all know that Billy Porter is a"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "gay man, but this is what he said."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": ">> Social media, speaking speaking of this,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "we're on this topic because, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Nicki Minaj has been trending, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "over her"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> her when people show you who they are."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Believe them the first time."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> And all of them."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> And she said, \"George, sit your stanking"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "down.\" I mean, Porter Potty or whatever"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "the f your name is. Now, we know that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Nicki Minaj is not new to rants. It"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "seems like we get a new rant every now"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "and then, and she always takes it to the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "limit."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> It's a good segue to our last piece"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "here, which is just some of the things"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "that you can't even really categorize."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "You know, they just depict the absolute"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "depraved, disgusting, like beyond belief"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "type of activity. You know, it hints at"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "it, right? This is all the the little"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "glimpses that we get. And we've talked"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "about this before cuz I mean it really"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "does. The birthday book was very eye"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "opening for me or like page after page"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "of the most disgusting, disturbing,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "dystopian references where that was the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "moment when we both were, oh, eyes wide"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "shut as a documentary. Like this is real"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "life. And I genuinely I I believe so"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "firmly now in the strongest possible way"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "that being a billionaire, being"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "extraordinarily powerful, being"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "extraordinarily influential, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "position, well positioned in these ways,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "it destroys your soul."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "So, what are some of the top"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "skills that you think you learned"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "working for the CIA that you can then"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "apply to like real civilian life or the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "world?"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> Yeah, there there are a lot of skills"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "that you learn at CIA, but the ones that"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "are the most applicable really have to"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "do with understanding and predicting and"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "directing human behavior. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> Human beings aren't really that"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "difficult to understand and they're not"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "that difficult to predict which makes"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "them not that difficult to control or"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "direct. And those were the most useful"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "skills that we learned at CIA."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Give me an example."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> So, um, let me give a very funny"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "example, right? I do this exper I do"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "this often times with people. We are"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "conditioned to make certain body"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "movements just based off of what we"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "encounter, right? So, when we first met,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "I extended my hand."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "which even now, you know, I'm not trying"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to shake your hand, but you still feel"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "the need to put your hand out."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> that's predictable directing human"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "behavior, right? With personal bubbles,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I can literally move you. If we're"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "standing next to each other, I can"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "literally move you someplace where I"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "want you to go just by invading your"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "personal bubble. I know that if I"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "silently stand too close to you, you"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "will move away. And people do this all"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "the time. People do it in lines. They do"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "it in elevators. What CIA does is"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "teaches you how to do it intentionally"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "with operational utility to achieve a"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "certain outcome that you want. The same"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "thing is true when it comes to getting"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "someone to speak. You can get someone to"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "speak when they don't want to speak. You"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "can get someone to say things they don't"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "realize they're saying by using tools of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "elicitation. Just as a real quick"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "example, I'm going to stop talking. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "kind of count to yourself how many"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "seconds go by before you start to feel"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "like you need to say something because"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the silence is so awkward."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "I mean I mean yeah like I I would go I"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "wouldn't even that was awkward even"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "though I knew you were doing it on"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "purpose. It's still awkward."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> It's still awkward. So that can force"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "you to get someone else to speak. I was"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "counting in my own head. It was about 2"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "and 1/2 seconds before I could see the"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "muscles on your face start to tighten"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "into a smile where you're like I could"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "tell you felt awkward."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> This I mean these skills are"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "rudimentary. What we're going through"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "right now are just simple things that"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "that we can demonstrate right now. If I"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "started playing the national anthem, you"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "know what you would do?"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Stand up,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> right? Cuz that's just what happens when"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "when you play the national anthem. When"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "we say when we say uh you know, put your"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "hand over your heart, people do. Take"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "off your hat. People do. You don't even"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "have to know why. If if someone just"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "walks up to a man and says, \"Sir, can"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "you please remove your hat?\" You know"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "what that man is going to do?"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Remove his hat. Not even knowing why,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "but just because we've been conditioned"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "to believe that there's some reason that"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "we should obey the direction of somebody"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "else. When a stranger tells us to do"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "something, we feel like we need to do"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "it. There are behaviors worldwide that"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "fit these kinds of predetermined"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "outcomes."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "the the personal bubble in Europe is"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "very much smaller than the personal"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "bubble in the US, but they're still a"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "personal bubble. Different national"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "anthems in different countries, but they"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "still have the same reaction. People"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "still stand up, they stop talking, they"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "show a moment of silence."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "They turn towards a flag. So, these are"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the kind of um indicators that we're"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "taught to look for and in in very basic"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "terms because they go on and on. They go"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "through, you know, eye movements, facial"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "movements, how you touch your face."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "There's all sorts of skills that you can"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "see whether or not you're driving a"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "behavior."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> So that's so interesting to me. So like"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "what did you call it when you can move"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "someone like by doing that?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> Directing human behavior."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> No, no, but you're saying like putting"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "your hand out for example, knowing that"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "I was going to do the same thing. What"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "is that called? Yeah, we're we're"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "predicting and directing human behavior"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "because I I know that culturally this is"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "going to be meaningful to you."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> So then do you have are you always like"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "a few steps ahead of anybody when you"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "want them to do something? Like are you"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "very you know it you you already know"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "what three what's going to happen? Like"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "do you have a plan? Like if you want"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "this person to do that thing, I need to"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "do A, B, and C to get them there."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> When there's an outcome I'm trying to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "achieve. Yes."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> But let's play this game. So, like let's"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "say I was a girl that you wanted to go"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "out with or vice versa. What would be"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "your plan of attack? What would you do?"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> What's the situation? What's the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "scenario? Where where are we at? How did"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "we meet? Kind of give Can you give me"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "some context?"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> Oh gosh. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> like if if this is let's just say it's"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "the real thing. Let's say you're the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "girl that I want you to go I want you to"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "go out with me and we're in this"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "situation that we're in right now. Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Right. Then I would I would most likely"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "tell you that when I was with Tom and"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Lisa, Lisa's making a home-cooked"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "dinner. She's making dinner tonight and"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "I have to be back at their house at 6:00"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and they wanted me to invite you to come"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "along cuz they haven't seen you in a"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "long time."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> Okay, how would that make me Okay, so"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "I'd be like, \"Oh, that's so nice."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Do you want to come with me?\" Cuz Lisa"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "is making dinner and she asked you to be"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "there. If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "natural-born spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "types of people in the world. Those who"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "use their skills against you. All you"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "have to do is click on the first link in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "the description below or scan the QR"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "code on your screen to start your spy"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "quiz now. I want you to discover your"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "secret spy superpower and use it for"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "good before somebody else uses their"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "power against you."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Okay, that's yes."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Do you want to come with me?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> And that's how I would get you to move"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "from this situation to come out with me."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> But what if it wasn't the case? What if"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "it wasn't?"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> None of that is real."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Okay, fine. So, if it's not real and"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "then I say yes, then what happens?"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> So, if it's not So, I'm getting you to"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "come with me for something that isn't"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "real. Right."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> Right. So, now when I come to pick you"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "up,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> I'll be like, \"Well, Tom, I just got a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "phone call from Tom. They're not feeling"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Lisa canled,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> but we're still together.\" And uh I know"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "that this is your neighborhood. Do you"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "have a good restaurant nearby that you"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "would recommend?"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Right. So, you you you would do a setup."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Yeah. It's called a bait and switch."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> A bait and switch. That's a nor that's a"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "good one. Okay. How would someone then"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "if someone wants to land a job, how"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "would they like get the person or"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "actually let me start? Let me let me"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "instead of giving you scenarios like I"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "do a lot of these things on like how to"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "be likable and how to be um how you know"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "how to how to develop your people"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "skills, let's say, right? How what would"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "be your number one way to get somebody"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "to like you? You want them to feel"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "comfortable around you, which really"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "means you want them to see themsel in"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "you. So, you want to mirror back to them"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "their behaviors, their language, their"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "vocabulary, their tonality, their"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "non-verbal and verbal communication,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "their values. And"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> so, you're mirroring them."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> Correct. That's what the term that we"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "use is mirroring as well. When you"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "mirror somebody, it's irresistible"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "subconsciously. They can't ignore the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "fact that they feel comfortable around"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "you because you are acting like they are"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "acting."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> So you you're so if I'm talking you'll"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "match my tone and your vocabulary, your"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "pacing, your volume."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> So when Okay. So then how about this?"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Okay. So what is it? Because I see I've"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "seen that you've spoken about this. What"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "is the difference between being"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "persuasive and being influential?"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Persuasion and influence are two tools"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "that often get misunderstood or they get"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "uh they get misidentified as being one"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "and the same, right? Persuasion, as"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "we're taught at CIA, persuasion is"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "emotional, which means it can only"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "happen when you're with a person because"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "that's the only time that you can make"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the emotional connection to bond with"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "them. So, when I say you have to be with"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "a person, that doesn't mean you"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "physically have to be with them. It"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "means that they have to be perceptive or"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "they have to perceive that they are with"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "you. So whenever you make a Tik Tok"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "video for example, whoever watches that"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Tik Tok video to them in their"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "perception they are in that moment with"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "you even though you are not in that"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "moment with them. Make sense?"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> So persuasion has to happen in a moment"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "where there's a connection between two"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "people because persuasion is based in"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "emotion. Influence is what happens when"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "you are not connected to a person. You"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "are not physically there. You are not"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "represented. There's no perception of"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "your presence, but they're still"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "thinking about you. Something you said,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "something you suggested, something you"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "did, something you recommended. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "influence. So, persuasion is how you"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "start because you have a moment to build"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "someone's emotion, their emotional"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "connection, their emotional um momentum."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "And then when you disappear and they"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "think of you anyways, that's influence."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "And the reason both of these are so"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "powerful is because over time your"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "target, your target being the person who"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "watches your videos and the person who"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "thinks about you when they're not"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "watching your videos, the human brain"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "calculates, it tabulates every second"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "that it's thinking about you. Whether"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it's with you in a video or whether it's"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "thinking about you on the toilet, your"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "brain can't differentiate the difference"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "between those two moments and the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "moments when we're actually sitting"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "together. Your brain sees it as all the"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "same thing. So, for example, you've"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "known about me for multiple years. It"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "sounds like"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> two years probably. Yeah. You feel"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "like there's a relationship with me"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "that's different than the relationship I"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "feel with you because you've had so much"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "more exposure to me. And your brain has"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "literally tabulated"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> all of those moments and bits and bites"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "and seconds and and fractions of time."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "It's put all that together to basically"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "say, \"Hey, you know this guy. He's"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "familiar to you. You know what he's"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "about. You know what he believes in. You"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "guys are friends. You're going to get"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "along.\" You your brain is telling your"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "subconscious that already. Even though"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "there really isn't any proof that it's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "true."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Although I don't feel like we're"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "friends, but I do feel like a"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "familiarity that you wouldn't feel cuz"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "you've never seen me before. You have no"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "idea who I am. You're probably like,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "\"Who is this girl? I'm at like sitting"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "in her podcast studio.\" You know what I"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "mean? Like you just kind of can't. This"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "is like one of 50,000 podcast you've"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "probably done. Me, I'm like, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "I'm so excited to have him. I love his"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "content.\" Right. Well, it's and it's not"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "necessarily something that I want to um"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "I don't want to personally offend"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "obviously."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": ">> Trust me, you're not personally"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "offending me at all. It takes way more"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "than that, honey, to personally offend"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "me. But but this is the tool."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> No, I know. That's what I'm saying. Like"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "that's that's I'm actually taking it as"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "like the information."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> So, think about everybody who's read a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "book, right? Your favorite author. You"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "feel like you know that person. You that"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "the whole idea of celebrity"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> is really just this concept on a massive"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "scale. That's why we feel like we have a"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "bond with our favorite actors or our"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "favorite actresses. It's why we feel"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "like we understand our favorite"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "journalists. It's why we feel like we"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "understand our favorite painters because"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> we've spent so much time"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> reflecting on them. That's influence"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "that they've been able to put out there."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Think about the influence of Vincent Van"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Gogh or the influence of, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "the uh any member of the Beatles."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> I understand what you mean. I guess my"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "question was more about did your time at"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the CIA teach you how to be more"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "persuasive? Like what are some of the"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "tactile like tactile or actionable"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "things that you cuz you now you have a"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "company, right? It's called Everyday Spy"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "where you take these things that you've"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "honed and learned and you apply them to"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "everyday civilian life for people."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Correct."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> Correct. So, what are some of these"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "really important skills that could be"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "very helpful and beneficial for people?"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Well, persuasion is a great place to"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "start. Um, because let's just assume"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that somebody already knows that"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "influence and persuasion are not the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "same thing. And let's go ahead and also"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "assume that they already knew that"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "persuasion was tied to emotion. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "those are two big steps because the"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "average person doesn't really understand"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "that. But, let's just go ahead and start"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "there. So, how do you teach someone the"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "technical steps of persuasion"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "once they understand that persuasion is"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "based in emotion? Right? You have to"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "start teaching them how to identify"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "emotional levers in their target. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "you're you are kind of my guinea pig"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "right now, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> So, when I when I look at you, I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "know what your emotional state is right"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "now. I don't know if you're angry, if"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "you're sad, if you're anxious, if you're"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "worried. I don't know what you value. I"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "don't know much about really anything"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "except that there's a newspaper or"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "there's a magazine on the wall that says"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "that that's by the Jewish Journal and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "you made a comment earlier about being"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Israeli. So that tells me that there's"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "probably a connection between you and"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the Jewish faith or the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "nationality or at least the Jewish"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "plight. So there's something there's"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "something there. From there, I can start"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "exploring topics that are likely to"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "trigger emotions. I can start talking"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "about uh anti-semitism. I can start"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "talking about support for the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Palestinian people. I can talk about"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "injustices that are happening in Gaza"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "right now. I can talk about injustices"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "that are happening in the UN when they"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "try to out uh Israeli leadership. I know"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "that you've you've already admitted that"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "you've had a meeting with leadership in"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Israel. I could assume that that if"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "that's not Netanyahu, it's somebody else"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "close to Netanyahu's circle, which is a"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "chance for me to start talking about"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Netanyahu's corruption charges and the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "fact that his own people are turning"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "against him. These are likely to be"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "points that will trigger some kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "emotional response. As long as I'm the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "one talking though, I won't know what"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "emotions are being stirred up."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> So, I need to make a statement,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": ">> kind of pry into an emotional topic, and"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "then wait for a response. That's the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "only way I'm going to get the feedback"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "to understand what is actually pushing"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "levers and whether those are feelings of"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "anger or remorse or sadness or something"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "else."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": ">> Right? So, you're able to pick up clues"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "basically."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> They're you have"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> well they're very overt clues but yeah"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> so to you they feel like they're overt"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "to the average person. They may not they"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "may not even think to pull topics from"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "previous conversation and topics from"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "around the room. Right? That's an"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "assessment tool."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> Um I'm And that only works cuz I'm in"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "your space. If we were meeting at a"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "coffee shop down the street, I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "have these to pull from."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> So how would you do it?"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> You'd have to pull it a different way."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": ">> How?"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> A lot of it ties back to how you ask"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "questions and the types of questions"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "that you ask, right? You there's two"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "types of questions. There's open-ended"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "questions and close-ended questions. If"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "you ask open-ended questions, those are"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "questions that don't have a simple"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "answer. So, how are you? That's a"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "close-ended question. Are you happy?"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "Close-ended question. Are you hot in"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "this room? Close-ended question. But,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "you know, how did you feel when you woke"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "up this morning? That's a more"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "open-ended question,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": ">> right? Um, what made you choose this"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "coffee shop for us today? That's a more"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "open-ended question. These are questions"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "that will lead to more conversation."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> And that is what gives you the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "foundation to start probing. And then as"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "you start probing, you can start looking"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "for emotional responses. So, is that"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "something that you teach people how to"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "be more persuasive? Correct."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": ">> What's another thing that you teach a"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "lot of that people that come to you?"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "What's the number one thing that people"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "actually ask you to help them with?"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": ">> People come to us because they are good"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "people who have been taken advantage of."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "That's the vast majority of who comes to"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "us. I actually just got off a call"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "yesterday with a guy who built a $7"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "million business and was then forced out"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "of his own business by two partners that"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "he brought on 10 years ago because they"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "were struggling friends of his. And over"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "the over the last 10 years, they kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "they they worked against him. They used"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "his his kindness and they used his um"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "faithfulness and they used his loyalty"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "kind of against him and they took his"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "business and now he's got $6,000 in the"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "bank and a family of four and nothing to"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "show for it. Um and he's like, \"How did"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "I get to the and he's 50 years old and"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "he comes to me and he's like, I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "know how I got here and I don't know how"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "to fix it.\" And of course he comes to me"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "because he's like, I think what I want"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "to do is run a public smear campaign"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "against them to try to get my company"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "back. And it's and then you have to have"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "that hard conversation where you explain"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "good people are going to be good people"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "their whole lives. Like you can't you"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "can't be good for 50 years and then"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "break bad and then turn into a bad guy."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "M"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": ">> so I had to explain to him like you're"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "you're better off starting all over"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "again because you know how to build a"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "company than trying to become a bad guy"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "and and coers these people into somehow"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "giving you back your business. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "never going to work. And that is really"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "what we deal with. We deal the most with"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "very very wealthy people who have been"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "taken advantage of and who who"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "understand that they are either a poor"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "judge of character or they have some"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "sort of gap in their knowledge when it"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "comes to dealing with unscrupulous"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "People who have been embezzled against,"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "people who have been cheated on, um"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "people who've been robbed by loved ones."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "That's that's the vast majority of what"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "we really do see from from individuals"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "asking for our consulting. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "you're teaching them exactly what"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "though, like if they come to you, not"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "that guy, but another guy, like how to"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "what"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> how to identify when you're being"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "misled, how to identify misinformation,"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "disinformation, how to"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": ">> how do you identify misinformation?"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": ">> It's all the same tools that we've been"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "talking about, right? You have to"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "understand how to assess, how to use"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "certain questioning types."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": ">> So you, like you said, it's not it's"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "like how you ask like the questions you"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "ask, how you ask them. I mean, for for"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "the purposes of a podcast interview,"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "that's pretty much as deep as I can go."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> But with a client, I can actually go"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "through the specific strategies. Here is"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "a type of question that we can ask."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Here's seven varieties of that question."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Here are the seven different kinds of"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "responses you'll get from those seven"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "different kinds of questions. We can"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "give them a"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": ">> get more deep depending on the scenario."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> Correct? Because you have time, right?"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "The CIA teaches us there's only three"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "resources that matter. time, energy, and"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "money. That's it. Everything else out"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "there is an irrelevant resource. It it"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "bundles up into either time, energy, or"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "money. Just because you have money"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "doesn't mean you can make a change"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "because if you don't have enough energy"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "or enough time, the money doesn't help"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "you. You can have all the time in the"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "world and if you don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "money, you can't affect the change,"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> right? So, you need to have all three"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "resources. So when I when I work with"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "clients, that's a lot of times where we"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "start from is, hey, these are the three"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "resources you have. Which of these"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "resources do you have in abundance,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "which of these resources do you have the"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "least amount of? And oftentimes what we"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "find is people have either a great deal"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "of time and no money or a great deal of"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "money and very little time. That helps"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "us adjust how we will train them, right?"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "People who have a great deal of money"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "and not a lot of time, we will put them"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "into a very concentrated training. And"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "vice versa, people who have more time"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "than money, they'll go into digital"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "training."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> So, how about what's you what would you"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "say would be the number one skill or the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "number one thing people should do to"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "change the outcome of what they want to"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "change"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> when the reason I struggle with this is"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "because I would argue that most people"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "don't know what outcome they want."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": ">> I would argue that most people think"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "they want something, but they haven't"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "thought it through. So, they don't"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "really know."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "And when you tell them to take certain"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "actions,"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> they'll take the action, they'll start"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "to see progress, and then they might"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "realize, well, that's not really what I"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "wanted in the first place. So now I've"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "got to kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": ">> I've got to go back and change myself."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "So what I often try to tell people first"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "is that"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "whatever you think you want, there's a"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "good chance that you're not self-aware"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "enough to even identify correctly the"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "outcome that you desire. You're still"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "living in some some echo chamber of what"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "you were taught, of what you were"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "conditioned to believe that you need to"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "be. Do you actually need to be happily"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "married? Or is that just something that"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "you believe because your mom and your"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "grandmother told you that? Do you"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "actually believe that you need to have"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "kids? Do you believe that you need to be"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "a mom or do you actually want to be a"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "mom? I'll tell you this, I've had so"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "many female clients and they did not"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "ever actually want to be mothers."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "They're mothers now and they're very"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "good mothers and they're loving mothers"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "and they're dedicated mothers,"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": ">> But they didn't make that choice on"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "their own before."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> Well, you Yeah, because you said"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "something earlier that's so accurate, I"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "think, is that so much of it, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "how we live our lives is because we're"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "programmed to live our lives that way."}]

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So CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "if there's anything that they do really"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "really well that people do not give them"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "credit for people don't even recognize"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "it's their hiring process."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Right. CIA has mastered the process, the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "system of bringing in recruits,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "doing due diligence on them through the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "application and uh the application and"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "vetting process so that only a few"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "actually get invited into the training"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "process which further vets them before"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "they make it into an operational role. I"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "mean, just compare that for a second to"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "what the average company does. They"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "barely vet the applicant. They don't"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "have a training process. They put them"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "in an operational role. You go from from"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "nobody to operator in a company in a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "matter of days, maybe weeks. You go from"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "nobody to operator at CIA in a matter of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "about 18 months."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> It's a long time to get through"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "everything for them to actually put you"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "in a position where you can break"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "something for intense all intents and"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "purposes, right? And during that"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "application process, they're testing"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "your capacity to learn. They're not"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "teaching you anything new. They're just"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "testing your capacity to learn. Uh, one"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "of the big misunderstandings, people"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "believe CIA hires people who are fluent"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "in a foreign language. They don't. They"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "hire people who have experience in"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "foreign language or experiences with"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "multiple foreign languages, but they"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "actually could give two shits whether or"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "not you're fluent in Spanish or fluent"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "in Russian or fluent in Greek. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "not what they're looking for. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "looking for the person who has the"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "capacity to learn a foreign language."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "So, if you've dabbled in 12 languages,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "they love that. If you grew up in a"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Spanish-speaking household and you only"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "speak colloquial Spanish, that's"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "excellent. If you uh, you know, learn"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Vietnamese from your grandma and then"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "moved to United States when you were 11"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "and have not spoken Vietnamese since"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "then, great because they understand the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "wiring is in your brain,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Or a foreign language. So then after you"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "get through the application process into"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the training process, that's when they"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "pressure test. Is the theoretical"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "capacity"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "actually real capacity? And then you run"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "the risk of washing out of training if"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "you don't keep up with the real"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "capacity, but that's the way that they"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "process everything. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> handtohand combat, driving skills,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "memory skills, persuasion and influence"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "skills, critical thinking, uh puzzle"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "solving. Like all of it is is tested in"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "theory during the application process."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "So still tested"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> but it's not about it's not about"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "performance, it's about capacity."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> Is it like Navy Seal buds in terms of"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "wash out percentage?"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> Uh is it that"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> difficult to get through?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> So So Navy Seals and what what buds"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "provides is a very different level of uh"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "attrition."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Because they're they're pushing people a"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "different way for a different reason."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Sure. And you need and to be you need"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "people commonl looking people. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Doing commonl looking things."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Absolutely. You know, you're not looking"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "to be the star of the show. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "looking to be an extra. So I think uh I"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "think most of your top tier special"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "operating units have about a one out of"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "five success rate."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> It might be one out of three. I believe"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "it's one out of five. So 20% success"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "rate for and an 80% wash out rate. CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "by the time you start at CIA training,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "not application but training, it's about"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "a 1 in3 attrition rate."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> I'm sorry, a one in three pass rate."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> So 33% pass rate for uh US CIA in"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "training. Navy Seal training is about a"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "20% pass rate."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> Somebody pursues a career with the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "agency,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "secrecy is"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "paramount."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "who in their family knows if what their"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "real job is."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Most of the time CIA will will"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "prioritize recruiting for people who"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "have no family."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> that's one of the things they're looking"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "for. So, no wife, no kids, no divorce."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "The next thing they're looking for after"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "that, if somebody does have, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "kids or wife or divorce or whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "else, they're looking for people who"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "have no extended family. So maybe you"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "everybody has a mother and a father but"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "you're disconnected from them or you're"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "an outsider from the family what"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "whatever else. Basically they're looking"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "for people who are very comfortable"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "lying to the people who culturally"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "should be the closest to them."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> So uh broken families, broken homes, um"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "homes with tragic loss. It's a it's"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "important for CIA the the process of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "keeping secrets."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "it. Healthy people,"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "balanced people, people who have had"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "healthy upbringings and happy childhoods"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "and who are of of decent average"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "intelligence are horrible at keeping"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "secrets."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "naturalborn spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "types of people in the world. 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They haven't had the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "traumatic experience of being abandoned."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "They haven't had the traumatic"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "experience of uh of having somebody, you"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "know, become like carry out something"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "treacherous or undermine them. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "they're trusting. And those people don't"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "keep secrets. They hear secrets and then"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "they feel like, \"Oh, I've got this"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "secret. It's it's weighing down on my"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "conscience. I need someone to help me"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "process this. So then they disclose a"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "secret, which is the opposite of what"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "you need. You need somebody with a"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "traumatic background. You need somebody"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "who's been betrayed"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> to understand the value of the secret"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "and keep it."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> You had challenges early in life with"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "your family and then you performed uh at"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "the Air Force Academy."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> How did they reach out to you and how"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "did they connect those dots?"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> They being CIA."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> Yeah. when I left uh when I graduated"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "from the Air Force Academy, I went to"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the active duty Air Force."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> Uh and I continued to have an Air Force"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "career. Air Force officer"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "u minimum service time after the academy"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "is 5 years."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> Mh."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> So I was four years into my 5-year"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "commitment. I started looking for other"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "government jobs that would be an easy"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "dovetail coming from the Air Force."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> But there was so much I didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "do."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> And you were you babysat nukes?"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> Yeah. I I worked nuclear missile"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "operations. I learned how to fly with"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the Air Force. I had like I had had a"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "very on paper a very uh successful Air"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Force career, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> But I learned I don't like office"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "spaces. I don't like being underground."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "I don't like lacks of window. Like I"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "don't like all these things."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> And I wanted to see the world."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> And when I started applying or started"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "looking at government jobs, most"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "government jobs don't see the world. You"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "sit in an office without windows in"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Washington DC or in Roslin or you name"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the suburb outside of Washington DC in"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the DC metro area"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> and I look at health and human services"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "and I look at you know IRS and I look at"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "FBI and I'm like this does not sound"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "like fun and then I I found the Peace"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "Corps"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "which I think still exists. Was it shut"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "down fully?"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> I don't know. I don't know. Did they Did"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "it get dodged?"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "But I find the Peace Corp and I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "\"Oh, this sounds interesting.\" You see"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the world, you teach micro finance, you"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "teach, you know, we build schools. Like,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "this sounds excellent. Plus, after being"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "underground for, you know, four years"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "with the Air Force."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> I was like, I'm ready to seed some wild"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "oats. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> Get it get out there and, you know, find"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "some hippie women who are also trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "save starving children."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Yeah, man."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> And uh and the Peace Corps had all that."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "So, I start applying for the Peace Corps"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "and in the middle of that application"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "process, I have like this interruption,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "this red screen that pops up that tells"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "me I might qualify for other government"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "positions. Well, I'm in the job search."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "It asks me to put my application on"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "hold. It says there might be something"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "better. So, that's what I do. And that's"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "how CIA reached out to me. They they"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "found me in the process of applying for"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "something else."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> There was a movie when I was a kid"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "called War Games."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> I remember War Games."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Okay. I don't know how I'm I'm not even"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "sure how old you are, man. I'm older"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "than you. I know that. Um, but the kid"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "was at a computer and it just popped up"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "and said, \"Want to play a game?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "starts playing the game and little did"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "he know he was launching the global"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "nuclear war"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> in playing the game. Uh, but that's what"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "it sounds like. It sounds like you were"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "literally at a terminal and it just blip"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "and they they found you."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, it wasn't quite as fun as"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "it would be in Hollywood, but it never"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> And and if you go back in time to when"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "it was 2006, 2007"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> Yeah. screens popped up all the time."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Oh, you were on a DOSS machine,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> So, but yeah, it very much worked that"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "way for me and it very much worked that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "way for a number of colleagues that I"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "met at CIA. They were applying for"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "something else"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> and then they got the same kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "notification. Hey, you might qualify for"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "something else in the national security"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "space. Would you like to pause your"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "application? And and CIA, it makes total"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "sense. They are a an arm of the federal"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "government. So, anybody that's applying"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "for federal government is showing a"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "certain behavior trend, a certain value"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "set, a certain um career interest that"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "could be beneficial for CIA."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> Yeah. And what did you do? You"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "responded, I'm interested. How did they"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> No, I didn't do"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> You didn't?"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> No, I got the red screen came up and"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "said, would you mind putting your"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "application on hold? That's all it"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "asked."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> So, I'm like, yeah, I'll put it out. I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "27 years old. Like if a girl comes up to"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "me and she's like, \"Hey, would you mind"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "pausing on dating me because there might"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "be a better girl that's coming down the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "street?\" I'll be like, \"Yeah, I'll"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "wait.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> You tell me something better is coming,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "I'll pause for sure."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": ">> So, all I hit was yes, I'll put myself"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "on hold. And then I made a little note"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "in my planner to continue my application"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the following Tuesday after 72 hours"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "passed. Uh, and I went home. And then I"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "got a phone call the next morning"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> from an ani unlisted number. It just"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "said 703 on my little flip phone."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> And uh and the 703 I didn't know it at"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "the time, but that's the area code for"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Langley, Virginia."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> And I pick up the phone and there's a"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "woman on the other line and she"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "introduces herself by her first name"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "only. And she says, \"Hey, are you"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Andrew?\" I had a different name back"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "then. Are you Andrew? Uh who was"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "applying for the Peace Corps um with a"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "background in the US Air Force. And I"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "was like, \"Yeah, that's me.\" and she's"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "like, \"Oh, your application came across"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "my desk and uh and we think that you"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "might be a good fit for a national"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "security role.\" And I'm having this"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "conversation with her and I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "\"Okay, this is interesting. Sounds"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "professional, but I don't have a last"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "name. I don't have a specific"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "organization. I don't have any details"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "about her.\" So, there's a part of me"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "that's also like, \"This sounds scam.\""}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "And I'm waiting for her to say, \"All you"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "have to do is give me your credit card"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "or all you have to do is give me your"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "home address.\" Like, I'm waiting for"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "this moment."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> And it doesn't happen. and she just"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "says, \"Oh, well, if we'd love to fly you"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "to Washington DC to do a round of"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "interviews or for new openings.\" And I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "like, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": ">> So, was that the first filter saying we"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "need people that only need a certain"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "amount of information to take action?"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> I believe so. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> I I the whole first few steps in"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "hindsight, in retrospect,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> sure. Were a filter for the an"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "acceptance of ambiguity, an acceptance"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "of risk tolerance. Right. She didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "give me any information. She didn't ask"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "me for any information other than"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "verifying who I was. And when I said"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "yes, I I'll take you. Yeah. If you want"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "to if you want to fly me up there and"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "and set me up for a couple of days to do"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "an interview and it's all on you,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> I'll do that for sure. She didn't even"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "give me dates."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> She just said, \"Okay, we'll be in"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "touch.\""}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> Right? And then the next day in the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "morning, an overnight FedEx package"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "arrives with an airplane ticket in it"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "and a hotel reservation and a rental car"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "reservation. And the dates are like 4"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "days away."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> So I'm like, \"Well, I didn't think"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "this was a real phone call.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> And now I have a FedEx package that"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "tells me to be on this plane going to"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "this airport, rent this car, and stay at"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "this hotel."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> So at this point, I'm thinking I'm an"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "organ harvesting target."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "They're like, \"Bathtub's filled with"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "ice.\" You know, that's But no, it"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "wasn't."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> Well, and and I'm thinking I'm not"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "thinking organ harvesting, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "certainly thinking like this is a very"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "complex scam. Oh, okay. That I can't"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "resist."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> But you're going anyway."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> What if it's not? I mean, is it even a"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "real ticket?"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": ">> I'm not going to know unless I go to the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "airport. So, I put in short notice leave"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "with the Air Force. I get a a mouth or"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "an earful of criticism from my boss, but"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "I'm like, \"Hey, I'm going like this."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "This what is this?\""}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> Yeah. So, you're going to a hotel room"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "to wait further instructions."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> I'm in like for me. Oh, I'm so in."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> That's That's exactly how I felt. I"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "don't know where this is going. I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "know what this is about. It could be"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "really cool. Like this is how action"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "movies start. It could be really like"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "uncool. This is also how murder movies"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "start."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> Could be an intervention."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Could be anything."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> Anything."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> But I'm not going to know unless I try."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> That's right."}]

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Uh we are still picking"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "which country we want to migrate to."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "We've been invited by Cyprus."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Come to Greece."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> If anybody else wants to offer offer"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "home to uh to an American expat CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "family, we are happy to oblige."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "But uh but here's the the deal is that"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Europe"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "needs to make some hard decisions"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "because the decisions that you have made"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "for the last few decades have brought"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "you to where you are now. So for anybody"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "who's ever tried to lose weight or for"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "anybody who's ever decided they need to"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "make a change in their life, you know"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "that the thing that brings you to the"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "point of change is the previous"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "decisions that you made to get to where"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "you are now. Well, that's what's"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "happening all over the world. The"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "America is where America is now because"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "of the decisions that Americans have"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "made. The same thing is true in Asia."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "The same thing is true in Africa and"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Latin America and of course here in"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Europe. So European leaders have made"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "decisions that brought you to the point"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "where you are now. So you have to decide"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "do you want to stay on the same"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "trajectory or do you want to make a"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "change? And when you make a change, you"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "then have to decide do you make a slow"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "change or a rapid change. That question"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "of how fast, how aggressive, how severe"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "a change do we make is really tied to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "your competitors. And we are in a place"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "where the competition against Europe is"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "largely authoritarian."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "China's an authoritarian state. Russia"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "is an authoritarian state. The United"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "States is becoming more and more"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "authoritarian every week."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "We are bypassing our own legislation. We"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "are changing our policies. We are"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "undermining our democracy. It's open."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "You read about it every day. It's real."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "There's consternation all across the"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "United States for it. But it will"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "continue because the United States has"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "to keep pace with its competitors. The"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "United States is a very practical"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "country. We often call the United States"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "a democracy. It's a democracy. Second,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "it's a capitalist country first and as"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "long as democracy benefits our"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "capitalism, we will be democratic. But"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "when democracy threatens our capitalism,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "we start to abandon certain pillars of"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "democracy in order to maintain our"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "American primacy, our role as a as a"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "global. There is an attack to Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> like Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "The United States going into Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "was illegal in every sense of the word"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "until the United States labeled Maduro a"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "narot terrorist. A term that's not even"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "a real term. And until the state of New"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "York had an indictment against Maduro,"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "which is arguably illegal to have an"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "indictment against a foreign person"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "that's not one of your citizens. We had"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "to build this series of exemptions"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "and then use CIA to execute a covert"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "action which they are legally allowed to"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "do so that we could create this lily pad"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "sequence of legal activities only legal"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "to the United States that would allow us"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "to capture and kidnap a foreign leader"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "that we disagreed with. That's really"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "all it was."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "But the reason that the United States is"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "able to do that. The reason that when it"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "goes through the court systems, it will"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "be determined to be legal is because of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the exemption after exemption after"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "exemption that we had to put in place in"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "order to carry out that operation. The"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "United States of 10 years ago would have"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "never done that."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Now we are actively seeing the United"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "States, the pillar of democracy, the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "leader of the free world, forcibly"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "triggering regime change."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "That's not going to change overnight."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "That's not going to stop."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> Go to answer my question. So what Europe"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "needs to do?"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> So what Europe needs to do is ask itself"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the question, how fast are we willing to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "change? How fast are we willing to"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "invest in our own security? How fast are"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "we willing to change our cultural norms"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "for security? How fast are we willing to"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "break"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> and security? You mean defense?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> I mean every level of security. 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And if"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "you disagree with me, that's fine."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "You're wrong. You need American weapons."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "That's why you buy them. You need"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "American intelligence. You need American"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "cooperation."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Like the United States has put this in"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "motion for 70 years. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "discovered your natural-born spy skills,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "then somebody else might be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "against you. 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This test was"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "developed to help you weaponize your"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "naturalb born gifts and use them to get"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "ahead of 99% of people in power, wealth,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "and purpose. It was also designed to"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "make sure that you can protect yourself"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "against those who would use their skills"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "against you. All you have to do is click"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "on the first link in the description"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "below or scan the QR code on your screen"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "to start your spy quiz. 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So, if"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "you actually want strategic independence"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "for Europe, you have to move quickly to"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "establish and rely on your own arms,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "your own weapons, your own capabilities."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "You have some of the best weapons in the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "world. You just don't sell enough of"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "those weapons to have a geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "economic benefit from your weapons"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "sales. So you have everything here. You"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "have the natural resources, the skills,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "the capabilities. Everything is here"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "except the will to make a rapid change"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and that is what the world needs. Needs"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "you to change your will"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> basically. You have something to say on"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "this? I was gonna actually you guys did"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "a whole paper on this just supporting"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "what he just said."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Don't forget the mic. I will keep it"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "always open."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> So actually it's it's interesting"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "because they because I went around and I"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "perused your your the stuff the work"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "you've done."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Probably you're the only person reading"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "those."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Joking."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> That's terrible. That's terrible. United"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "States defense industrial base. How it"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "differs from European defense"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "technological industrial base. And you"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "know what this says? You rely on the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "United States way too much for your"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "military stuff. It's your research. He"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "just told you exactly what it's it's"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "accurate. And so, you know, just to, you"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "know, again, I'm not geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "really, but I understand security and"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "systems just because of the traveling we"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "did in the world. And even when I go to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "countries, uh, they're like, \"Oh, we"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "have guns and weapons.\" And I'd be like,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "\"I don't want your guns and weapons. I"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "want my guns and weapons.\" I would bring"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "all my assets from the United States to"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the country. Cars. Even the cars the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "president of the United States. Anywhere"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "in the world you see the president,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Whose cars are he in? is whose cars are"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "is he in our cars. We bring our cars"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "because I don't want to use your cars. I"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "don't trust your cars. I don't trust"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "your equipment. I want my cars. We call"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "them cargo planes. And we would I put in"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "my orders and I'd be like, I need x"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "amount of cars. I need x amount. I would"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "even bring my own magnetometers. You"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "know the things downstairs that you go"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "through? I don't want yours. United"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "States doesn't want yours. We want ours."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "We would ship them over to your country."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "That has to tell you something about"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "your capabilities. It's not about I"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "think sometimes we think we're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "make the rest of the world be like us in"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "ideology and sometimes they just don't."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "And so there's a little bit of trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "influence the world and there's also a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "little bit of living in reality and what"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "is reality and I have to adapt to my"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "reality and creating your own strategic"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "defense and security systems in in every"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "possible way and he is right is"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "important and even the countries within"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "there's nothing worse than waiting for"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "somebody else to save you. There's"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "nothing worse there's nothing worse."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "It's good to support one another, but"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "there's nothing worse than waiting for"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "someone to give you something because"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "you sit there and you're waiting like"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "this. I'll give you a simple example. I"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "grew up, my parents are immigrants. They"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "came from Greece. I was born in Harlem,"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "New York, Washington Heights, one of the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "worst crime neighborhoods in the United"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "States. We we were poor. We were poor."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "And um when my parents at one point we"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "moved into government housing, this is"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "actually after my parents got"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "citizenship, we moved into government"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "housing. It's where it's subsidized"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "housing for people who didn't have"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "wealth. And we lived there for the first"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "few years. And you would think, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "that's wonderful.\" And it was, and I"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "appreciate it, but also at the same"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "time, I learned what it means to wait"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "for somebody to give you something. And"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "the simple example was the heat. I live"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "in New York. New York City gets really"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "cold. And I would there were there were"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "times where it was so cold in the house,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "freezing. And I would say to my mom,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "\"Mom, why is it so cold?\" She's like,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "\"They haven't turned the heat on.\" And"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "what we do, we go into a little kitchen"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "was probably the size of this. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "would open the oven, literally turn the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "oven on, open it, and I'd stand like"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "this in front of the oven to warm"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "myself. And I remember thinking, this"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "this is I don't ever want to wait for"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "somebody to give me heat"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "or to help me survive. And"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> this is an example for the United"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "States. And we need to"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> this is an example for you"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> for we need to stand up in our"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> have your own independence. It's like"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "create relationships but not reliance"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "where you're so reliant on somebody else"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "when when that goes away you're like oh"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "my god I don't know what's going on. How"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "are we going to do this? Because your"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "system your system falters."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "That's what I'm saying. It's wonderful"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "to have subsidies and and give and and"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "get economic wealth but when you take a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "country like United States that says you"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "know what us giving money away is no"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "longer makes sense. Which it doesn't."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "They're at a deficit. They you know US"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "became that rich uncle who was like who"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "needs money? who needs money, who needs"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "money. And now they're like, \"Well, wait"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "a minute. We don't have money to give."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "We're going to stop.\" And then everybody"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "in the world's like, \"Wait a minute. Why"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "are you stopping money?\" They're"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "stopping money because they're they're"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "struggling. They're trying to recover."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "They're like, \"We're going to lose who"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "we are if we're doing this all the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "time.\" So, I think the theme is find"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "ways in which you can have"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "relationships, but not create this"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "dependence where you're waiting for"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "somebody else to turn the heat on for"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "you so you can be warm. Warm your own"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "house."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The whole world is wondering if and when"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Donald Trump is going to strike Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "And I want to answer that question with"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "you here today. But first, let's take a"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "look at the most recent failed"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "prediction."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> I have a friend uh former CIA officer"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "who was at the White House this morning"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "talking to his friends and he says that"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "a decision has been made to attack Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "on Monday or Tuesday. Don't get me"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "wrong, John Kuryaku is a good friend."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "He's a good dude. He made some decisions"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "that were different than the decisions I"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "would have made if I was in his shoes."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "But the fact is that he is dead wrong"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that Donald Trump did not take action on"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "February 23rd or 24th like he"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "anticipated based off of his"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "conversation with a friend of a friend"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "of a friend at the White House. But the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "point is this. Nobody knows what's going"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "to happen next on Iran, including Donald"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Trump. And that's exactly what I want to"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "talk about with you today. There are"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "multiple things going on in the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "geopolitical landscape right now and"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "they all come to an interesting sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "precipice at the Iran topic. As an"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "example, another US strike on Iran would"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "effectively humiliate the current"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "administration because of their formal"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "statements about their first attack on"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Iran. If you recall, their first attack"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "on Iran completely obliterated the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Iranian nuclear enrichment program. As"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "you can see in official correspondence"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "from the White House here. So, if we"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "were so successful in completely"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "obliterating the enrichment program,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "what are we worried about now? Except"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "for the fact that people inside the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Trump administration are saying that"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Iran is once again within just a few"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "days of creating a nuclear weapon. 5"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "days to be precise. So, there's current"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "intelligence saying that Iran is"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "imminently capable of creating a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "weapon. Well, the United States doesn't"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "know how to react to that. How do you"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "respond to that and still maintain the"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "narrative that we successfully"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "obliterated their program in June of"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "2025? The answer is you can't. And in a"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "midterm election year like 2026, that"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "kind of mistake can prove fatal,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "especially when the predictions are that"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "the Republicans will lose control of the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "House in 2026. Let's take a look at"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "that. Current predictions put the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Republican party losing the House of"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Representatives at 62% in 2026. And"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "that's according to the current status"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "quo before any changes, any mistakes,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "any major wins, any major losses that"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "happen between now and November 2026."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Now, it's important to note that the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "same prediction engine actually puts the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Republicans maintaining control of the"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Senate at 57.4% in 2026, meaning that"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the House of Representatives would go"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "blue and the Senate would stay red,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "effectively nullifying and restricting"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "any actions that the president can take"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "outside of executive orders for the rest"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "of his second term. And a mistake in"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Iran would effectively destroy his"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "chances of having any kind of control in"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the future. So if you were in Donald"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Trump's shoes, would you consider taking"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the risk before November or would you"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "consider waiting until after November to"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "make any really big geopolitical moves."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Donald Trump has already struggled in"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "2026 trying to maintain a public"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "narrative. If you recall, he claimed"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that we destroyed ISIS and yet we are"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "still bombing ISIS in Syria. He also"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "supported Israel in their attack on Iran"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "and ensured that Hezbollah would disarm"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "before the end of 2025. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Hezbollah has not disarmed by the end of"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "2025. Which means that any attack"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "against Iran would essentially be a"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "reason for Hezbollah to get back in the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "fight. Only this time, not just against"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Israel, also against US forces in the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "region. Iran is in a uniquely difficult"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "position for Donald Trump because it"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "still has access to proxy war fighters."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "It still has a gigantic base of"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "population and it's getting very close"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "support from other major adversaries to"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the United States. In fact, a recent RAN"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "report actually stated that the reason"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Iran was able to recover so quickly from"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the last round of American bombings was"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "because of specific support from the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Chinese and the Russian in advancing"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "their nuclear and ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "programs. So, not only is the United"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "States not effectively discouraging or"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "dissuading Iran from moving forward, but"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "the more America is involved, the more"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Iran is being offered support from other"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "adversaries standing counterpoint to the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "United States. If you look at what's"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "happening off the coast of Oman, you see"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "a buildup of an American naval force"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "that's intended to try to intimidate and"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "deter Iran from taking any kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "action. a tool to try to force them from"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "the negotiation table for both their"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "ballistic missile program and their"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "nuclear enrichment program. But when you"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "start to look deeply into what that"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "naval armada actually consists of, you"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "start to see how the deterrent isn't"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "quite where it needs to be to support"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "American military strikes. First, the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "entire naval armada only consists of"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "about 18 ships. Now, if that sounds like"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "an impressive force, you got to compare"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "that against what the region has seen"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "during previous conflicts where the US"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "was engaged. In 2003, there were 55"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "ships in the region. In 1991, there were"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "71 American warships in the region. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "in essence, the 18 ships that we have"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "there now are in fact sending a message"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "to Iran, but it's not the same message"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "that we might think here in the United"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "States is being sent. What Iran sees is"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "that the United States is not seriously"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "committed to the region. Even though"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "what American newspapers are saying is"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "that the United States is seriously"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "committed to the region. When you start"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "to see this in terms of objective"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "reality, the fact that adversaries are"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "helping Iran and that military forces in"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "the region are not going to be effective"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "at a prolonged conflict. And then you"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "add to that the fact that Iran is more"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "militarily capable than any other"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "adversary the US military has gone up"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "against since leaving Afghanistan. And"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "we completely sacrificed the element of"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "surprise when we rendered Maduro out of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Venezuela in early February. So, the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "United States is now in a place where"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "our adversary can predict our moves even"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "better than we can predict our own"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "moves. Which is why John Kiyaku's"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "prediction did not come true in reality."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Because no matter what's happening in"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "the White House, assuming his sources"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "were even accurate, the White House"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "itself doesn't have a clear direction on"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "where it wants to go next or why or how"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "it will deal with the aftermath. But"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "here's what we know for sure. We know"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "for sure that any conflict against Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "in the near term will very likely be a"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "conflict of rocketry. There will be"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "rockets going into Iran, rockets coming"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "out of Iran. There will probably be"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "manned aircraft that launch air strikes"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "from air to ground. And without a doubt,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "we know that Israel will be involved"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "because the United States Armada is"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "simply not sufficient enough to take on"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the entire war fighting capability of"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Iran. Sure, we will do a lot of damage,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "but that doesn't mean that we're going"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "to guarantee a regime change, and it"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "doesn't mean that we're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "guarantee that the people will rise up"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "against their own Ayatollah. But when,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "not if, Israel gets involved in the"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "conflict, there will be a"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "prepundonderance of military assets in"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "the region. Not to mention the fact that"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Israel comes with a series of"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "relationships that are much stronger"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "than America's relationships with many"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "of the over-flight countries that would"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "be required in an air strike against"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Iran. So, not only do we know that"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "whatever strike comes against Iran will"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "involve rocketry and involve Israel,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "it's also worth noting that all of the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "regional players in the area would"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "support both the United States and"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Israel in attacking Iran. Oman, Saudi"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Qatar, Jordan. They would all be in"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "favor of an attack against Iran because"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "a diminished Iran is in essence good for"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the Sunni Arab world because Iran is"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "predominantly Shia. And while the United"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "States and Americans may not really"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "understand the Shia Sunni conflict in"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "the Middle East, they take it very"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "seriously and they understand it on a"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "cultural and personal level because"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "anything that's going to diminish Iran"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "is going to be popular to Arab players"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "in the region. Not just American allies,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "but even countries that are allied with"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Iran because Iran is the bread basket to"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the Middle East. Much of their food,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "their agricultural products, fruits,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "vegetables, dates, all comes from Iran."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And these countries like UAE and Saudi"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Arabia are forced to maintain some level"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "of cooperation and coordination with"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Iran because they want access to Iranian"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "food. But that gives Iran a massive"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "lever and a way of threatening the same"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Middle Eastern countries that it's"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "allied with. And the Sunni nations,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "especially the rich Khi oil countries in"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "competition with Iran, hate that Iran"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "has that kind of control over their food"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "security and their agricultural"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "security. So where does all of that"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "leave us? Where does it leave you and me"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "in terms of what to expect and how to"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "prepare for a potential US conflict"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "engaging Iran? Well, here's what I would"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "say. First, conflict is not as imminent"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "as the media is trying to make it out to"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "be. Donald Trump set out a 10 to 15day"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "response window for Iran starting"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "February 23rd, telling them that they"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "need to abandon their nuclear enrichment"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and ballistic missile programs. He"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "already knows that they're not going to"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "accept those terms. If anything, he's"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "already prepared to accept a negotiation"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "position from Iran where they are able"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "to continue enriching uranium for"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "civilian nuclear power purposes while"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "abandoning their militarygrade"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "enrichment program. And with regards to"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "ballistic missiles, Iran isn't married"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "to a homegrown ballistic missile program"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "because they're already getting"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "ballistic missile support from China and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Russia. But there's nothing the United"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "States can do from the coast of Iran to"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "prevent China and Russia from meddling"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "in Iranian ballistic missile technology."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "So even if Iran agrees to stand down on"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "their ballistic missile program, it"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "doesn't mean they won't continue to have"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "ballistic missiles. So now you really"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "start to understand how deep the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "conundrum is for the United States"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "government because even if they win on"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the negotiation table, they're actually"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "losing in terms of strategic benefit. So"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "adding to that situation, the idea that"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "America would launch against a sovereign"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "nation off of its own coast and risk"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "losing American lives in Iranian"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "response at the same time that a"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "critical midterm election is expected,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "you can start to see that Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "doesn't know what he's going to do"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "himself. And the US federal government"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "is stuck in a position where they have"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "actually put themselves between a rock"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and a hard place. A second major"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "consideration here is the actual"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "position of Ayatollah Kmeni in Iran. The"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Ayatollah and his current government"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "have a weak control over the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "people, but they still have a control"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "over the Iranian people and very similar"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "to what happened when Russia invaded"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "Ukraine. You have this narrative that"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Iran has built, very similar to the"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "narrative that Russia had built. If you"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "recall back in 2022, Russia was telling"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the Russian people that they weren't"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "fighting Ukraine. they were actually"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "fighting a war against the West and that"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "the West was supporting Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "specifically to diminish Russia. By the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "end of 2022, the Russian people saw that"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the narrative from Putin was effectively"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "being proven true as Europe and the West"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "poured money and resources into Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "to kill Russian soldiers. Essentially,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "we would have the same thing happen"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "again in Iran. Iran has already been"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "crafting a narrative that the West is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "trying to oppress and suppress not just"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Iran but the Arab world and even more"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "specifically the Islamic faith and even"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "more specifically the Shia Islam faith"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "and through vehicles like Israel and"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "information warfare and economic"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "sanctions they've been punishing the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Iranian people. So now, if the United"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "States does in fact launch its own"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "missiles into Iran, it's essentially"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "bringing to life the fact of what the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Ayatollah's narrative has been for the"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "better part of 10 years. And when Israel"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "gets involved, it will just amplify the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "messaging. That doesn't mean that the"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Iranian people are going to welcome the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Americans into their country. It means a"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "whole new generation of radicalized"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Iranians are going to be motivated to"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "take up arms, not just against the"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "United States and Israel, but against"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "all Western powers. Lastly, and most"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "importantly to you and me is that a"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "conflict against Iran is going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "even worse for the American economy."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "It's going to mean more American money"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "spent, more money printed, less foreign"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "investment, less foreign exchange and"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "trade because Europe is going to"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "distance itself from the United States"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "because the United States is clearly on"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "a path that is separate from the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "democratic vision that Europe has been"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "trying to lead. And as more US dollars"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "are printed and as the US economy"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "continues to struggle under increasing"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "inflation, it means that the dollars in"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "your actual bank account will be worth"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "less and less every day. If you would"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "have held a dollar on January 1st, 2025,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that same dollar would only be worth 90"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "by Christmas 2025. 10% of the value of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the US dollar was lost in just one year"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "last year. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "It's amazing what the United States have"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "done in Venezuela. Like nobody died from"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "the United States"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "as far as we know."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> Yeah, we nobody's we've been told nobody"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "has died. We were told there were some"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "injuries. Um and that it was in some"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "depending again on where you read it was"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "a very close call to losing a whole"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "helicopter."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "But yes, we've been told nobody has died"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> and it was 40 people of the side of"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Maduro of the dead and 60 civilians"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "something like this I understand"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> by and large what we hear"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> so how this operation so for me they"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "what did they do you understand what how"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "this mechanism work can you reveal to"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "the rest of the world what happened"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "exactly"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> so this"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> so it's espionage that been happening"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "for years uh to build this operation."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Uh I mean for all intents and purposes"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "yes"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "they nobody knows except for people in"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "classified circles how the operation was"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "carried out. But but in essence what"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "we're seeing here is the difference"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "between military capability like the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "United States and military incompetence"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "like Venezuela. Venezuela wasn't even"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "being protected by Venezuelans. Maduro"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "was being protected by Cubans because he"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "didn't believe that his own Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "military was capable or loyal to protect"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "him. So the people who were actually"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "shooting at Americans weren't"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Venezuelans. They were Cubans and they"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "were paid protective services rather"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "than trained military units."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "So the United States brought what's"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "called a joint force together. They"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "brought army pilots. They brought army"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "special forces. They brought satellite"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "intelligence. They brought human"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "intelligence. They brought signals"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "intelligence. Like they they brought"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "navy together, army together, marine"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "corps together, space force together,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "air force together. And then they"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "launched successive"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "layered attacks. So they had drone"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "reconnaissance and then they blew up"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "communication centers and then they"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "counter they prevented military"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "logistics from moving. All these things"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "happened before the helicopters ever"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "came in to actually carrying the special"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "operators that took Maduro. So you could"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "see a very coordinated, very complex"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "military operation, not that dissimilar"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "to what you saw happen when they"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "launched B2 bombers against the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "nuclear protection power plant in in uh"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "in uh Iran. Another complicated"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "coordinated military action that costs"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "money. It doesn't just cost money that"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "day. It costs money"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> years in the making"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> for years or months in the making."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> Training of these people."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Correct. So, what we know that's been"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "publicly disclosed about Maduro is that"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "they were training for months before"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "they ever carried out the operation."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "They built a mock compound. They"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "practiced they they didn't only practice"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "how to shoot at a target. They practiced"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "how they would go into the compound, how"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "they would move inside the compound, how"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "would they exit the compound. They flew"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "in, they flew out, they flew multiple"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "ways. They flew in the rain. They flew"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "at night. They they attacked in the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "snow. They attacked in the rain. They"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "attacked in a typhoon. Like, they"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "practiced every possible thing. And then"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "they had the ability to actually wait"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "cuz the whole attack was supposed to"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "happen on New Year's Eve, but it"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "couldn't happen on New Year's Eve"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "because the weather wasn't right. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "they waited 3 days for the weather to be"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "perfect, which means they even had"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "weather intelligence before they carried"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "out the operation."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Just compare that to what we talked"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "about with the front entrance of the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "European Union Parliament building."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Like you can see a huge difference in"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "how seriously the United States takes"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "its security and military capability"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "versus how Europe takes it versus how"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Venezuela takes it. And the only reason"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "the United States was so successful, not"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the only, one of the big reasons they"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "were so successful, was because they"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "were stealing Maduro. It'd be completely"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "different if they were trying to kidnap"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "the head of Colombia. Completely"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "different if they were trying to kidnap"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "the Ayatollah. Completely different if"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "they were trying to kidnap the head of"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Mexico. Right? So, they trained for a"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "very specific operation against a very"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "specific target. And they had high"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "confidence that the response in"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "protective the protective response for"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "that target would be insufficient"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "compared to the force."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "And even still, they put a [ __ ] ton of"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "effort into taking him down."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Uh I'm a politician. [laughter] Uh"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "people are coming to write uh on my"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "apartment. Sometimes they write with"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "sprays bad things and all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "whenever you get power and since it"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "seems that this political part is going"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "very well in Cyprus. Cyprus is small"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "country but I start I get death threats"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "every day on social media and all this"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "stuff. If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "natural-born spy skills then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "types of people in the world. Those who"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "use their skills against you. All you"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "have to do is click on the first link in"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "the description below or scan the QR"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "code on your screen to start your spy"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "quiz. Now, I want you to discover your"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "secret spy superpower and use it for"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "good before somebody else uses their"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "power against you."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> How is some easy ways? I'm not sure if a"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "lot of people have uh these problems,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "but probably I assume some people have"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "some power that they or money that they"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "need to care about their privacy and and"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "this stuff. So what are some simple"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "steps that one person can take like me?"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Like I'm afraid of like simple things"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "because I also I was also trained in the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "military and like I'm understand what"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "this mechanism. So probably they are"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "going to go and put uh drugs in my car"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "and say oh does drugs to affect my"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "public image or something like this. So"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "I I'm taking some measures but I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "curious to hear what uh you think we're"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, I mean there there's there's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "many many measures that you can take."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "So, one of the first things is if you"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "have I don't know if this is required in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Europe, but if your if your personal"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "information is publicly available, if"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "people can find your apartment, find"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "your car on public databases, there's"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "services that you can use that hide your"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "personal information. Sometimes you can"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "just request it, especially as a"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "politician. Many countries in the world"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "allow you as a politician, you get an"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "you get to um hide your personal"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "information specifically because of the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "threat to your health and your"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "well-being. So if you can't hide your"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "public information, then what I would"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "recommend is that you have phony public"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "information. So you may have an"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "apartment that's listed as your"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "apartment, but that's not where you"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "actually live. You sleep somewhere else,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "you shower somewhere else. And it's easy"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "enough to even you don't have to have a"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "second apartment. You just don't use"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "your primary apartment. In the military,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "it was very common for people who were"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "special operators to have a home or an"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "apartment that's listed, but they stayed"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "somewhere else. They stayed with"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "girlfriends, moms, dads. They showered"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "in their gym play. They would live"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "somewhere other than their publicly"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "disclosed home. And the same thing with"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "your vehicle. If you don't even use your"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "vehicle, then you can't be framed for"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "the misuse of your vehicle. You have an"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "alibi, right? So, hiding your"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "information or or misattributing is the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "word that we use at CIA. You are"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "misattributable. People think it's"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "yours, but you actually don't use it."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "So, they're mistaken. That's one way of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "covering it up. Another thing that you"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "should do if you have to use your"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "apartment, you have to use your car is"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "something called changing your pattern"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "of life. Pattern of life means that you"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "live your life by a repeatable pattern."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "You wake up at the same time, you go to"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the same gym, you eat the same"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "breakfast, you shop at the same grocery"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "store, you go to the same coffee shop,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "you go to the same restaurants. People"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "can start to study your pattern and then"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "they know Tuesday night"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Fidas is or uh Fidas is going to go to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "taco night at at El Rio Taco Shop."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "That's what he does every Tuesday"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "between 5 and 6. If people know your"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "pattern, they can intercept you and"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "attack you at your pattern. So, you want"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "to change your pattern. So, you don't do"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "the same thing every night of the week."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "You don't go to the same grocery store."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "You don't drive the same way from your"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "house to the grocery store and back"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "again. You don't walk the same way. You"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "don't take the same train. You change"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "it. You don't have to change it every"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "day. You change it once every two or"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "three days, maybe once a week,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "something. But you break the pattern so"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "people can't track it. Guys, isn't he"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "amazing? I know. Continue. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> Uh, another tool is your cell phone."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Cell phones are trackable."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> How trackable they are."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> They are incredibly trackable and and"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "it's not just trackable."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> iPhones as well."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> Everything. Nothing is secure because"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "people can track you based on different"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "pieces of information. So, for example,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "if you just have a normal cell phone,"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "your cell phone can be tracked by what's"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "known as your cell phone identifier,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "your IMEI."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "So, that's the actual signal that your"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "cell phone sends to a a cell phone"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "tower. It can also be tracked by the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "apps on the phone cuz the apps carry"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "something called AdSense or I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "ad tech. Adte is a technology on your"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "phone that allows advertisements to"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "appear on your phone. ad tech sends a"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "completely different signal than your"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "than your cell phone signal. So now if"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "you want to track somebody by their"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "adtech instead of their cell phone"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "signal, you can you can actually be"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "tracked by your email on your cell phone"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "because you'll have an email identifier,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "a token on your cell phone that shows"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that you are validated as the email user"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "that's using the email on the phone. So"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "you can track somebody by their phone"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "number, their email address or their"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "ads, their adtech number. Then you can"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "also track people just by the like the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "safety signal that the security that the"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "phone sends even when it's powered off."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "This is when you go to find your phone"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "and you can find your phone even when"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it's not powered on because there's a"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "passive signal that's always happening."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "So there's many many ways that you can"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "track a cell phone totally legally"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "and that's used for commercial purposes"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "all the time because"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> and they pay this someone pays some"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "people to do these types of things."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> Well I mean they're not like organized"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "with intelligences and all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> They can't. So to be clear the four"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "things that I just said you do that on"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "your own. They're businesses by"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "themselves. You bought the phone. You"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "said yes to giving permission to share"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "your contacts. Yes to sharing your"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "location. You said yes to all of those"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "things. That's how you can use maps."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "That's how you can make cell phone"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "calls. That's how you can use Facebook"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "for free. You clicked yes. So you gave"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "permission for all these companies to"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "make money off of your data. All the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "intelligence service does is go to the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "company and say, \"We would like to buy"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "the data.\""}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "They don't even have to use force. They"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "can just say everybody in your every"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "person who uses an iPhone said yes to"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "sharing their location data. So now they"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "now Apple knows the location for"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "everybody using an Apple phone."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "The government doesn't have to say Apple"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "give me your information. The government"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "can go and say Apple will buy your"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "information. We'll buy all of your"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "information for the month of November."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "How much does it cost? Done."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> And they sell it."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> And they sell it. When Apple says it's"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "secure, what it means is that it's"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "secure against someone stealing their"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "information, but they still sell your"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "information. That's how they make money."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> So they sell if someone go they can go"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "and buy my personal fidas information."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> They they don't they can't buy your"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "information by your name, right? They"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "can't go to this. They can't go to your"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "provider and say, \"Hey, give me the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "phone number for Fidas. Give me the"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "email address for Fidas and only give me"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "his information.\" Instead, they go in"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "and they say, \"Hey, we want all the"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "information related to this phone"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "number, this email address, whatever it"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "might be, we want information affiliated"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "with that.\""}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Well, once they know that that's what"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "they're buying. So, if they already know"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "your phone number or already know your"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "email address or already know your city"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "location, they'll just buy everything"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "and then they'll they'll find you from"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "that. But the thing to understand is"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that most intelligence services aren't"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "interested in a person. They're"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "interested in a pattern. They're looking"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "for a group of criminals. They're"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "looking for a group of spies. They're"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "looking for a group of whatever. True."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "So, they're looking for connections."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "When it comes to you as an individual,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "the bigger concern there is the fact"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "that companies can find you based on"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "your behavior. You're a 25-year-old"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "engaged"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "male who works at the European Union"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Parliament."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "They can find everybody else who's your"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "friend here just by tracking where your"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "phone goes, what other phones are in"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "proximity to your phone, at what times"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "of day, what searches you're doing?"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Like, they can create a whole map of all"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "of your network. And do they do it"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "because they want to spy on you? No."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "That's why Russia might do it, but an"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "advertiser might do it because they just"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "want you to go to their nightclub."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "there's a new nightclub that's opening"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "three blocks away from Parliament and"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "they want everybody who's single under"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the age of 35 to go to that nightclub."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "So, they buy the they buy the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "information, create the network, and"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "they see where do you guys go drink your"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "coffee, where do you guys uh what"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "websites do you use, where do you do you"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "go to this grocery store or that grocery"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "store? So, they can advertise in those"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "places to find you."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> So, some things that one person can do"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "is change their patterns. Uh"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "what else?"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> Misattribute their location."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": ">> Yes, misattribute their location. So"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "their official location is not there."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> Be careful. Maybe sometimes change phone"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "number. So"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> correct. Misattribute your phone."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Misattributing your phone means that you"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "have two phones. You have one phone that"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "you use for personal, one phone that you"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "use for professional. And then by using"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "the two different phones for two"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "different things, the people who are"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "collecting your data don't really know"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "which one is which. So you can"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "misattribute your phone. Another great"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "thing to do is use your phone only from"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "home"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "and then use your computer from work. So"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "then your phone never even leaves your"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "house"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "and your computer never really leaves"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "your workstation. So if you don't want"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "to have two phones, then just practice"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "your discipline. the the bottom line"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "with all things related to security and"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "this is an EU thing and a personal thing"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "CIA teaches us that there's a continuum"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "on one a line a balance on one side is"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "security on the other side is"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "convenience"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "so the more you choose security the less"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "convenient your life is the more you"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "choose convenience the less secure your"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "life is But you can't have it both ways."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "So you're always choosing when you're"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "going to be more convenient and when"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "you're going to be more secure. That's"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "changing your pattern of life, having"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "two phones, living someplace other than"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "your apartment. These are not convenient"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "things, but they're very secure."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:40", "text": ">> Okay. So you said uh you explain exactly"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "how the social um intelligence work. Is"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "the intelligence in the EU a good get a"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "good mark you think on"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": ">> you have some very good services in the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "European Union the DGSSE in France is"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "very good the BND in Germany is very"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "good um the Polish intelligence is very"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "good"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "but I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> that's about it"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": ">> but I well those are the really really"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "good services right but I don't believe"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "that they're sharing all their"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "information with each other Right. They"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "share a little bit when they're asked"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "maybe, but it's not like they're sharing"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "everything. It's not like they're"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "sharing an abundance of information."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> You think we should"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": ">> I think that if you want to have"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "collective security of Europe, you must"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "if you keep if the if the European Union"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "keeps playing this game where there are"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "multiple countries that are independent"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "first."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": ">> Yeah. This is the debate more"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "sovereignty or more uh togetherness. So"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": ">> if you if you want long"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> pros and cons,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> but you have to for me what Europe needs"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "to figure out is whether or not it's"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "more focused on long-term security"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "together or whether it's more focused on"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "long-term independence."}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "It has to make that decision first. You"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "can't be both. You're wasting resources"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "trying to be both. And it doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "to be forever. It just has to be for the"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "next two years, five years, 10 years, 15"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "years, 20 years. And then make a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "deal, make a pact, make an agreement,"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "make an alliance, do something and"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "commit to it. Because right now, the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "lack of commitment just wastes"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "everyone's time and makes everyone less"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "secure. It gives Russia everything it"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "wants. It gives America everything it"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "wants because you guys can't make a"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "[ __ ] decision, which only hurts you."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "As soon as you make a decision and you"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "stick to that decision, the United"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "States and Russia start [ __ ] their"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "pants because now they're like, Europe's"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "going to start making progress and"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Europe must make progress if it's going"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "to be truly strategically independent as"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "a continent in the future."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": ">> What makes you excited when you wake up"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "in the morning? Why you still wake up in"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "the morning?"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": ">> My kids make me excited."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "My future makes me excited. I can't say"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "that the future for my country or the"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "future for my friends countries makes me"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "excited. But my personal future makes me"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "very excited. I love the world. I don't"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "like the people in the world. But you"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "ask, [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> but I love the world. Oceans are"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "beautiful. Skies are beautiful. Sunset"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "is beautiful. Trees smell great. My dog"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "running in the forest or running through"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "the tall grass makes me happy. But you"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "don't want to talk with them, but you"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "don't like them as well. The people"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": ">> I don't want to talk to people and I"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "don't like people."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "I'm here talking to you so that I can"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "talk to one person I enjoy, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "pretty sure most of the people watching"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "I probably wouldn't enjoy. And frankly"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "speaking, you wouldn't enjoy me either."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "So you don't like people?"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": ">> You like some people?"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> I like some people. I like people. Like"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "we said at the very beginning, I like"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "people who are focused on high impact,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "high importance"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "work that will change the future. But"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "that's not most people. That's only a"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "few people."}]

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We meet with some of"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the field officers who are already in"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "country, already running operations that"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "are tangential to Falcon operations."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> And uh and through that process, we meet"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "somebody, a a guy in the book named"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "James, uh who's speaks the Falcon"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "language, who has a reputation um back"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "at the building for being a very"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "reliable, very effective officer. And we"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "land on this idea because of my wife"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "that instead of trying to model CIA"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "operations off of CIA operations, what"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "if we tried to model CIA operations off"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "of terrorist operations, right? which at"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "the time that we were that we were given"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "this assignment, it's the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "global war on terror,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> And there was really only one country"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "heavily invested in the global war on"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "terror. Yes, there were Brits. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "there were allies. Yes, there were New"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Zealanders. Yes, there were French. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "people were dying from all the different"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "countries. But there was only one"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "country putting hundreds of billions of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "dollars into that fight, and it was the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "United States. So we had all the IP on"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "how terrorist organizations work, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> It was only al-Qaeda and CIA that worked"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "out that knew how al-Qaeda operated. So"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "when we looked at Falcon, we were like,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "\"Fal's not participating in the global"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "war on terror. They don't understand our"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "IP.\" And I've been,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> like I said, scooping [ __ ] from all over"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "the world."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> So my wife's like, \"You know how CIA,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "you know,\" she's looking at me and she"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "says, \"You know how terrorists operate."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "I know how terrorist cells communicate,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> right? Why don't we just build our own"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "cell? Which is where the shadow cell"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "concept came from. We just built a cell"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that's job was to collect intelligence"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "rather than building a cell whose job it"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "was to blow up buildings."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Some of the characteristics of terrorist"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "cells are the way that they communicate"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "decentralized authority. Um they they"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "can be quiet and to themselves. There's"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "literally thousands of them across the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "globe and it may be four or five or six"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "people and they may get communication"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "infrequently. Y"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> so it's very difficult to track. I know"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "the only way they found Bin Laden was"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "ultimately through a courier."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> And it was just one mistake and and when"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "they were there they realized that he"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "was robustly running the organization"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "with very little contact from the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "outside world other than this one"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "courier."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> Exactly right. And and that was a model"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "that was completely foreign to"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "operations at CIA. Sure. Where"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "everything needed 12 people to sign off"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "and everything needed to be communicated"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "and everything needed to be approved and"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "you needed this broad spectrum of middle"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "managers justifying their job."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> Before operations didn't get to the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "director. So it was the exact opposite,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "right? Whereas uh terrorists have"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "independent financing, meaning they they"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "have wealth that's washed multiple steps"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "before a pile of money is delivered to"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "somebody and that person doesn't have to"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "report receipts back. They don't have to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "report expenses back. They're just given"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "a pile of money and they do what they"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "want to with that money. So we were"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "like, well, what if we just wash our"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "money and what if we independently"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "finance our operations and what if we"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "create operations that actually create"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "revenue and then we keep the revenue for"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "ourselves and use it to fund more"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "operations. We we start modeling as much"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "as we can."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Off of these starting a business."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> You're basically starting a business."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> Exactly. Right. And and you're you're"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "just creating a business that is a"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "business of secrets. Instead of trading"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "commodities, you're trading secrets."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Instead of buying and selling in credit"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "cards, you're buying and selling in in"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "currencies that can't be tracked."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> Yeah. How did you build the team? And"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "then how did you commence operations?"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> Building the team was the first big"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "challenge because we were doing"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "something outside of the norm."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> And CIA is a very corporate entity. If"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "you want to promote, you have to meet"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "certain criteria, right? You have to hit"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "your sales targets."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> You have to get enough facetime with the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "boss. You have to have an end ofear"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "report that says all the right [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Like that's how it works. Sure. And"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "nobody wants to be a GS11 forever. They"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "all want to climb the ladder and make"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "more money and that's the only way to do"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "natural-born spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "types of people in the world. Those who"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "use their skills against you. All you"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "have to do is click on the first link in"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "the description below or scan the QR"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "code on your screen to start your spy"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "quiz. Now, I want you to discover your"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "secret spy superpower and use it for"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "good before somebody else uses their"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "power against you. So, here we are"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "working off the record essentially in a"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "side kind of operation. So, everybody we"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "talk to are like, \"Hey, we've got this"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "thing that we're doing, but you're not"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "going to get any credit. We've got this"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "this exciting opportunity, but you can't"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "tell your boss.\" And it's approved, and"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "we can show you the letter where it's"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "approved, right? But all of your work is"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "going to be taking you away from your"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "career"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> successes. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> And bringing you into the mission to"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "save, you know, to help and serve the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "United States."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Maybe people are going to be surprised."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Maybe people aren't going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "surprised. The vast majority of CIA"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "officers that we talked to had no"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "interest in the mission of protecting"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "American citizens. They were at that"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "point very focused on their career."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> When you sign up for CIA, you're like,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "I'm here to protect America. But once"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "you go through your improcessing and"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "your training and all the other [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "you become disillusioned very quickly"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "and you realize, oh, if I if I ever want"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "to make a living wage, if I ever want to"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "make $92,000 a year to live in"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Washington DC, which is not very much"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "money in Washington DC, if I ever want"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "that, I have to make sure I hit my"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "minimum quota. I have to make sure I"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "punch in and punch out. I have to make"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "sure I'm on the boss's good list. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "just like anybody else in corporate"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "America. The idea of the mission kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "takes a second seat or a back burner. So"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "my wife and I were stuck finding those"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "few people who were hyper mission"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "focused. Okay, those people who were in"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "it for the exciting like opportunity for"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the fun time and we found them. We"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "refined our pitch and we found people"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "who were susceptible to the pitch and we"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "found some people who were very good at"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "it and some people who we uninvited from"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "the team. But ultimately we ended up"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "with about five really, really strong,"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "missionoriented,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "hyper patriotic, willing to risk their"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "whole career on this exciting,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "innovative opportunity that had no"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "guarantees. And that was our team. And"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "then operationalizing,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "you moved to a friendly country and"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Wolf,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> correct? You move to a friendly country"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "and then from there you would move to a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "neutral you would fly to a neutral"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "country and then you would fly in to the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "target country Falcon."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> Exactly. Right."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> And what was your primary mission when"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "you would go in country to your now you"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "know that it was to be bait for a mole"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "but what did you believe your primary"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "mission was at the time?"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. We we the guidance that we"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "got the direction we got from CIA was"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "that we were supposed to build a new"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "network stable. uh we call them stables"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "of people just like you have stables of"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "animals, information sources who provide"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "regular information. So our job was to"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "create a new information stable against"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Falcon. The reason that we"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "operationalized the way we did is we"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "wanted to borrow best practices from"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "terrorist organizations and terrorist"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "organizations don't fly from the hostile"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "country into the United States."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> They fly through a neutral country where"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "they do a document swap and then they"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "fly to the target country. So a"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Pakistani"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "terrorist will fly to Saudi Arabia, a"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "friendly US country that's neutral to"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Pakistan,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> document swap into a fake document, a"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "fake passport, European passport,"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "whatever else, and then fly to the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "United States."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> So the record in the United States shows"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "that this"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> actual covert terrorist came from Saudi"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Arabia on a European passport. Boom."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> Good."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Welcome to the United States. High five,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "fist bump, stamp on your custom"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "passport. if had said Pakistan it would"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "have been a different story"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> so we modeled off of that when we"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "operationalized and then also similar to"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "terrorist operations when a financeier"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "when a money mover travels they travel"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "alone and they travel from different"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "neutral countries when somebody who's a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "bomb maker travels they travel different"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "than the financeer through a different"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "neutral country under different"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "documentation when an actual person"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "who's designed to blow themselves up"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "when a a jihadi or a um whatever"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "somebody who's going to sacrifice"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "themselves travels, they travel yet"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "differently still. So we set the same"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "thing up. So for me as the support"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "operational planner, I traveled more"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "like a money mover."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> My wife didn't travel. She was kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the primary person who ran everything"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "from the main building in Wolf. And then"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "we had all of our operators who traveled"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "kind of like jihadis from different"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "neutral countries. So we would all come"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "and go through different routes at"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "different times, but the one thing we"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "had in common was Falcon. So it's almost"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "like building a bookshelf"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "one step at a time where everybody has a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "different step, but the bookshelf stays"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "in the garage. So we all go to the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "garage at a different time. I go in and"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "I put on the first shelf and I put one"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "nail in the side and I leave. And"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "somebody else comes a different day and"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "they put one nail in the other side of"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "the shelf and then they leave. And then"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "another person comes and they build the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "next shelf all by themselves. And then I"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "come back a few weeks later and I paint"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "the back or glue the shelves. And then"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "the next person comes and they put the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "first book on and the last person comes"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and they actually take it out of the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "garage. So that's that was our"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "methodology for building these"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "operations."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> What happened in the arcade?"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> On one of my visits to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "the city, a city we call Kestrel, which"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "is the capital city in the country of"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Falcon. I came under surveillance and I"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "identified my surveillance because CIA"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "trained us to do so. And in that"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "surveillance run, I had to find a way to"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "what I was trying to do was make my"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "surveillance team bored. I wanted them"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "to be comfortable and I wanted them to"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "feel safe. So I went into this giant"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "arcade was very popular in in the early"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "2000s all across the world were these"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "giant multi-level arcades. And I was"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "like, \"Oh, I'm going to go in here. I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "going to spend 50 bucks US, which is"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "going to put me in I'm going to have"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "games for hours. And my surveillance"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "team, they're they're going to send one"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "person in to sit up at a high like at a"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "bar and watch me. And then the rest of"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the team's going to get a smoke break"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "and they're going to have a, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "turnover and they're going to chill and"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "nobody's going to think that I'm a spy"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "because I'm just some [ __ ] in an"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "arcade."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Well, what I didn't realize is that when"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "I went into the arcade, I actually"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "spooked the surveillance team and they"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "did something that's called a starburst"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "pattern. And a starburst pattern is when"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "a surveillance team doesn't know where"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "their target went,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> So, everybody goes on the hunts in like"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "a big explosion and they all go in"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "different directions to try to find"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "their person."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": ">> Right? So, if I'm reading this, uh they"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "probably um they're not sauntering. They"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "probably increase their pace. They're"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "scanning a little bit more uh with their"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "eyes. They're taking more risk. They're"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "they're they're looking around instead"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "of looking indifferent,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> and at the time, I don't know this,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> So, I think I'm I think I'm brilliant. I"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "think I'm God's gift to espionage and"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "I'm sitting there playing like a"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "dinosaur game where I'm going through"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "the jungle shooting dinosaurs and then"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "all of a sudden a surveillant pops up"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "from behind that game box and he's not"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "who I expected to see. I recognize him"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "in my periphery as a surveillant but I"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "wasn't in the zone. I was playing a game"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "on a computer instead of playing the"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "game of espionage. So when this person"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "appeared in my periphery that I"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "recognized, my instinct, like everybody"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "else's instinct, is to look at them."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> Which is something you are trained to"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "never do to a surveillance. You never"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "look in the eyes of the person following"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "you. You don't do it. Every time you see"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "it in the movies, that's how you know"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the movies are not informed by a"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "professional because you never make eye"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "contact with the threat."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "But I wasn't focused in that moment. So"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "I did exactly that. I looked and I"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "caught his eyes and he was also not in"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the game of espionage. He was in the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "game of find the [ __ ] target."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> So when he turned the corner and I saw"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "him and he saw me both in our"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "peripheries, our instincts took over and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "then boom, we locked eyes. And it it"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "couldn't have been in reality, it"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "couldn't have been more than maybe a"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "second and a half, maybe a second, just"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "long enough to be like, \"Oh, I shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "be looking at you.\" And then we broke"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "contact. But in the moment,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> it felt forever."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": ">> So you were, you felt at that point that"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "you were made."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": ">> Absolutely. I knew I was made. He knew I"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "was made,"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": ">> but he also knew he was."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": ">> He was made. Okay. So now we all know"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "that this is a target."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": ">> What did you do?"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": ">> I'm right away I felt"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "in danger. I was like, this is I mean,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "this is the game over moment."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> They could scoop you up and disappear"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "you. I am in a foreign country under a"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "fake identity where I lied to the border"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "patrol. I lied to the guards. I lied to"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "my air on the airline ticket. Like this"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "is fraud and espionage on this is fraud"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "on multiple levels. And if they find out"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "why I'm here, it's espionage on top of"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "that. And that's the death penalty in"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "every country."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": ">> And the CIA already told you that"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "they're not going to come get you,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> right? So I'm sitting here to try to to"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "try to find time to think. I stayed in"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "the arcade. In that moment, did you"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "second guessess your decision to do what"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "you're doing?"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> Everything like I just gave my life for"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> I had I had my future with my wife"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "disappearing like dissolving in my own"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "head. The children that I didn't have"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "but I always wanted dissolving in my own"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "head. The [ __ ] people at CIA who had"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "always criticized me and and told me"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "that they would never want to work with"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "me, they all"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": ">> shine bright in my head."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> Yeah. and and I'm trying and I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "to think about what do I do next? But"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "I'm stuck in this cloud of"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "self-criticism."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": ">> And that that was a big part of why I"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "was like I I don't even know what to do."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "So I'm not going to physically leave"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "this location. So I just go sit"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "somewhere else and do something else and"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "put quarters in something else and"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "whatever. I I didn't even care. I was"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "just like I need to find a way to think."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": ">> And as hard as it was, CIA knows that"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "these moments happen. So they teach us"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "how to gain back control."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": ">> Well, did your heart rate go to 200?"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Oh, I mean it was out of out of this"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "world, right? Like tunnel vision and"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": ">> You're an incredibly engaging emotive"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "person. Uh you're friendly."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": ">> I that's in that moment if you lost"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "focus, your thing would be to engage,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> Your your your default is to engage. And"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "it was the worst thing that you could"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "do. And now you had to talk yourself"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": ">> alone. No. No. I can't make a phone"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "call. I couldn't really do anything."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> And did you decide to leave the country?"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": ">> That was the moment I I"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "after I regained a semblance of control."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> I was able to make a what we call a risk"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "matrix of where I was the most"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "vulnerable, when I was the most"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "vulnerable, and what actions I could"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "take to reduce the risks that are the"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "most pressing. CIA doesn't really"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "believe in the riskmanagement process."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "CIA believes in something called a risk"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "tolerance project pro process."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> So you find the areas where you can"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "increase your risk and in so doing"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "you're basically shifting the sands of"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "risk whereas the risk management process"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "believes that you can somehow take risk"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> CIA doesn't believe that when you reduce"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "risk in one place you just increase it"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "somewhere else. So what I needed to do"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "was reduce imminent risk to increase"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "long-term risk. So, how do I make it so"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "I don't get captured right now,"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": ">> even if it means I might increase the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "opportunity for getting captured later?"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Again, movies get this wrong. When when"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "CIA officers are identified in a movie,"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "when secret agents are identified in a"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "movie, what do they do? They run,"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> They shoot, they run, they start taking"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "weapons apart, and they start blowing"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "cars up. And like, that's the opposite"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "of what we're trained to do because"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "that's the kind of thing that increases"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "the imminency of immediate capture. Now"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "you don't just have a fivep person"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "surveillance team. You have every police"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "officer in the area coming after you"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "because you just blew up a car."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> What about something as subtle as just"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "changing your pattern"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> having a secondary hotel? My thing would"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "be don't be where they're looking for me"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "if they want to scoop me. But at the end"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "of the day, you're not going to get out"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "of the country. It's we're again the way"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "that I think your default thinking is"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "the way that the movies tell you to"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "think."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> I've been made. So if I change the"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "pattern"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> anything"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": ">> after being made"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": ">> that validates"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> it validates that I'm here on nefarious"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "purposes. So I know on one side the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "longer I keep the pattern the more I"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "reduce the chances of immediate capture"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "and the more I change the pattern the"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "more I increase the chances of immediate"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "capture. But if I keep the pattern, my"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "long-term capture is almost guaranteed"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "because they're going to know how to"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "find me and they can just park a van on"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "a corner knowing I'm going to drive up"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "to that corner,"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> So, I have to balance these two. So, the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "way I did that was keeping my pattern"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "for that night, but then laying the"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "groundwork to fly to leave the country"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "on an official ticket with a justifiable"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "business reason and scheduling a flight"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "for early the next morning. I was"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "playing a risk. You can't get rid of"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "risk. You always have risk. But I was"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "playing a risk that if I worked on"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "American time zones to book a flight"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "that would be overnight in the foreign"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "country where I was when my surveillance"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "team and all the like intel"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "administrators would basically be at"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "home sleeping or at home dealing with"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "their kids. So maybe there's a window in"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "there where I could schedule an official"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "flight which isn't going to raise any"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "alarm bells, right? and catch the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "official flight before anybody even"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "wakes up."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> So that's what I did. It was about eight"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "o'clock at night and I scheduled a 6 am"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "flight the next day. I was already"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "scheduled to leave two days later, but I"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "just moved my ticket up. So instead of"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "buying a ticket out of the blue, I just"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "made a flight change"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": ">> and hoped that I would get out before"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "anybody really noticed that I changed"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "the flight."}]

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No, but it's they will love it."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "They will immediately start standing"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "innovation."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> But that is but that is a very real"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "thing that makes the world more"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "dangerous because people when you have"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the idea of non-ooperation,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "it creates more opportunity for"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "conflict. And conflict is dangerous"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "because conflict means competition over"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "resources. Competition conflict means"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "violence. 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So the world is becoming more and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "more dangerous because multipolar drives"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "more conflict."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Cryptocurrency drives more conflict and"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "authoritarian thinking, the idea that"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "you have to flex your power creates more"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "opportunities for conflict and conflict"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "is what's dangerous."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Okay. Uh let's talk about democracy"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "because you know I am a bit"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "skeptical when we try to make everyone"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "democracy. We try to overthrow"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "governments to make them democracy. We"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "try to like Dubai is not a democracy but"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "it's functioning in a way very well and"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the growth you know the people are happy"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "there as far as the United Arab Emirates"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "would call themselves a democracy."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> So Dubai is just one city in a country"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "that calls itself a democracy."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Is it a democracy there?"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Ah see now now you're that's the better"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "question. That's the better question. Is"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "it really a democracy? Because there are"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "many countries that call themselves"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "democracies"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "but aren't really operating according to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "a democracy. And there's all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "subcategories of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> democracy. But what my my argument let"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "me finish is like we countries can why"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "why we're fixated to this everyone needs"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "to be a democracy. Democracy is the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "better system. We try to influence"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "everyone to become a democracy. 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At least Trump is admitting uh uh"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "this and then the first thing that they"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "do is try to get the oil not to make"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "hopefully this doesn't break the oil."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> I dropped water guys on the platform"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "that were recording audio. But I think"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "it will be okay. I hope it will be okay."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "Uh so uh so we see this that they are"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "not actually trying to make democracy."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "They're trying to take advantage of"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Venezuela in a way. So yeah, they"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "couldn't care less about democracy. I"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "would say in Venezuela. Uh so what what"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "what is your thoughts about this?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> The idea that the United States cares"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "about democracy more than it cares about"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "its own interests"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "is it shouldn't be a surprise to"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "anybody, right? There's no way the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "United States cares more about democracy"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "than it cares about American interests."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Democracy is just a very easy word to"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "abuse"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "because very few people know what it"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "means and very few people actually"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "exercise true democracy. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "discovered your natural-born spy skills,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "then somebody else might be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "against you. 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Now, I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "to discover your secret spy superpower"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "and use it for good before somebody else"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "uses their power against you. There's"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "different flavors of democracy,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "different types of democracy. There's"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "different exceptions to democra to"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "democracy, right? So, the United States"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "cares about American opportunity and"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "American benefits first."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "it can use democracy as an opportunity"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to take an action that the people will"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "support because they believe that"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "democracy is a good thing even though"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "they don't realize that what we in the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "United States technically have is a"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "representative republic that's that's"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "what we have every person yeah right but"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "that's just a lack of what of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "understanding the idea that every"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "country should be a democracy is"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> first of all before you go what is a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "democracy"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> democracy means that the people within"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "the country have the right to have a say"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "in what happens in the country, but the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "way that their opinion is exercised,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "it that's what creates the difference"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "between different countries. Some people"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "have a direct say in what their country"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "does. Some people have a direct say in"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "who they have represents their"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "interests. Some countries don't. Some"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "countries have to have to earn the right"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "before they have the right to have a say"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "in what their country does. And then you"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "have countries like UAE where you may"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "have a say, but there's already a"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "decision at a higher level about who"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "actually gets to represent you. It's the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "same way in the United States. The"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "United States has has all these people"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "who can vote, but they can only vote for"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "two candidates at the end of the day for"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "president. It's a predetermined number,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> [ __ ] this game."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> I I agree 100%. It's like we have also"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "in Cyp"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "they give us five sheets and they say"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "choose. Is that a choice? when they when"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "you actually don't don't have the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "opportunity to influence which people"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "are going to be your choices then it's"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "not a an actual choice that you are"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "having predetermined and like the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "parties is only a certain kind of people"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "that will emerge from these places and"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "all this stuff and here is where direct"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "democracy comes from that we can talk"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "about it later direct democracy maybe is"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "the future of democracy"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "So, the uh"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> that was a fake laugh. It's okay. I"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "tried my best."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> It's It was a fake laugh, but it was a"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "very it was a very genuine attempt at"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "your at your plug that changed your"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "voice. Again, the uh anyways, the the"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "idea that we should export democracy is"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "also a false belief. Democracy"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "in and of itself is still relatively"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "young. Democracy only really started"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "existing in the fifth century in Athens,"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Greece. So it took it took all of all of"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "the AD time plus 500 years BC before we"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "started to even have democracy. So"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "democracy itself at most is is 1500"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "years old."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "And uh human beings have been alive a"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "lot longer than democracy has been"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "alive. Which means strength,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "authoritarianism, tribalism, dominance"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "through force and power, war, all of"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "those things have they're three three"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "times the age of democracy. So we still"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "don't really know how"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> and more. And we don't really know how"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "to apply democracy yet. Especially not"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "apply democracy, apply democracy to"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "multiple different types of cultures and"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "countries with different economic"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "interests, different levels of"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "education, different social structures."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "It's very very hard to export democracy,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "but it's very easy to claim that your"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "war or your conflict is in support of"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "democracy. And then as we abuse the word"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "we reduce the trust in the institution"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "itself. Right? So we start to see this"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "phase of our world now where democracy I"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "would argue is on the decline."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Fewer people trust democracy. Fewer"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "people want democracy."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> The results in most countries more than"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "half of the people or half of the people"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "they don't vote. They have the right to"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "vote but they don't vote."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Correct. They don't exercise the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "democratic freedom that they have, which"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "if you don't exercise something, you"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "lose it."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Interesting and threatening."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> If you don't exercise a muscle, what"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "happens if you don't exercise?"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": ">> I never voted in my entire life. I only"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "voted myself. So egoistic."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Uh so okay. So you're saying uh the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "third thing is this disruption and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "disruption of democracy"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "that uh but and you agree with me"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> it's not it's not the disruption of"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "democracy it's the rise of"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "authoritarianism"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "that's the third risk it's not that"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "democracy is declining"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> and that brings with social media mo"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "mostly or no no"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> no I don't think so authoritarian"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "authoritarianism is a way of thinking"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "it's thinking And how do you define an"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "author authoritarian or"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> it's it's a it's a powerful leader that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "essentially passes authority instead of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "seeks consensus. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "authoritarianism."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> Okay?"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> So even in a democracy you can still"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "have authoritarianism. Even in a"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "dictatorship you can have"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "authoritarianism. Even in a church you"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "could have authoritarianism. Right? It's"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "when a single authority ex exercises"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "rights and freedom and privilege over"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "the consensus."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> Okay. So, we talked about these three"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "points"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "why the world is going to chaos and you"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "didn't you didn't involve so much"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "nuclear weapons in your equation. You"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "don't think this is one of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> that the world is dangerous? No, I think"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "nuclear weapons are a subset of one of"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "the other three things. Right? In a"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "multipolar world where there's more"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "conflict, how is a how is one of those"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "conflicting countries going to exercise"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "their power? Potentially through a"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "nuclear weapon. In a world where more"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "crime exists, there's more opportunity"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "for a nuclear weapon to fall into the"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "hands of a criminal organization. And"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "now you have a loose nuke or a dirty"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "bomb that goes off somewhere because of"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "a criminal enterprise, not because of a"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "national actor. And in a country with in"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "a world with more and more authoritarian"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "leaders, authoritarian leaders aren't"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "going to listen to the consensus that"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "says don't use a nuke, authoritarian"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "leaders are going to feel empowered to"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "exercise their nuclear capability on"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "their own."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> So since we're on this topic of"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "democracy, before we go to the United"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "States and a bit to the wars that are"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "happening right now, uh so do you know"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "what I'm doing uh in Cyprus?"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "So the goal is to exact thing that you"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "are describing and that's the exact"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "reason we're doing it. So we uh we"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "started a political party. It seems that"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "it's going very well in the post"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "is showing us very good numbers and uh"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "we have elections in 4 months. I started"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "a polyal party in a way to remove the"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "power from so much from these leaders"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "that are and to give it more back to the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "people in a way. So uh we just some"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "examples of how this is happen like for"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "example now when I'm inside the EU and"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "there is a vote here in the EU about"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "meosur agreement or about doing one"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "sanctions to Russia yes or no uh I put"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "this on an application that people can"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "only only separate people they verify"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "with their ID and they vote on what I"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "will vote inside the European Parliament"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "and like this is more in way closer to"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "direct democracy. Not everywhere. I vote"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "500"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "times a year. It's not I put 10 votes to"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the people like it's not every so this"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "is an attempt that uh and like for"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "example when I came here I put a vote do"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "you want me to join a political party"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "here in the European Parliament or not?"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "And they voted for me to be independent"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "or to create my own uh party uh so"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "political party. So it's uh it's this"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "attempt like for example we now we like"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "you said before we don't have uh MPs I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "g I'm giving this to the world as well"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "guys I'm explaining you because it's a"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "case study I don't know if it will work"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "it's a it's a test it's a trial is a"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "like a startup thing that we're doing so"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "anyone in Cyprus can become an MP now we"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "have parliamentary elections in Cyprus"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "and we have an application that has uh"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "and I put B now for people to see that"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "has now 190 people that want to become"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "candidates. They put their candidacy."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "They're making videos there and we're"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "going to have elections to choose the 56"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "people because we need to choose 56 to"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "be on the ballot and the people will"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "choose the we're going to have elections"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "inside this app. So it's bringing more"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "the direct democracy and also how what"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "are the policies of the party is not a"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "100% uh is not uh people uh inside the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "we have a thing that put the priorities"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "that you have for Cyprus what we should"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "focus should we focus on um corruption"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "which you and like they list their"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "priorities so we're a party that will"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "not solve every topic that people have"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "because like it's impossible to solve"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "all the people's"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "people give us their priorities and then"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "we make conversation with them and we"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "have our top five priorities and we"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "shape opinions and policies around"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "those. So this is a new way of doing"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "politics more with direct democracy. So"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "yeah I wanted to discuss what are you"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "what do you think the downsides attack"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "this idea? What do you think are the"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "problems? Maybe one online application"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "voting, maybe it's a threat. Uh maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "people can manipulate. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Tell me your thoughts on this."}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> Let's assume first that that you have"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "perfect security. Let's just that's the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "easiest place to start. Assume that the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "app is secure. Assume that um"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": ">> it's a great assumption."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> I mean it's just it's easier for us to"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "have a conversation"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": ">> if we reduce variables. So if we reduce"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "any"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> that's"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": ">> so smart."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": ">> Any questions about the security of the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "app and it's truly a one forone secure"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "platform."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "I love the idea because I love the idea"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "especially in a place like Cypress with"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "a small population especially in a place"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "like Cypress where the birth rates are"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "are low and declining which means that"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the wealth is increasing which means"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "that education should also be increasing"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "because fewer people are draining the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "education system. education is one of"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the primary focus of the people in the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "policies that they put."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": ">> But but you're seeing that in a country"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "like that this should work well. It"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "should however you still have you have a"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "bigger reliance on turnout on"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "contribution"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> meaning"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> meaning people have to participate. If"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "they don't participate then you have a"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "small portion of people creating an"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "outsized direction for policy."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> True. And that's"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": ">> now we have like the population of"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "Cyprus is 1 million. This part is new is"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "three months old and now we have 18,000"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "people that has downloaded the app. So"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "you're right like a smaller portion of"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "the population is deciding what will be"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "the policies of the party though they"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "support but anyone not only the party"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "members anyone can download the correct"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "from any"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> right and and and"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "th this is a perfect example of how"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "technology can transform the way we"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "govern ourselves not just and social"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "media that makes us less intelligent but"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "in a meaningful way that helps us more"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "self-directive about our own future."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Sure. So I think it's a"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": ">> to get more power like we were saying"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "before because we only have like two"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "options in the democracy. We have we"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "only vote once every 5 years or every"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "four years. So"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": ">> and and people need to understand that"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "the pace"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": ">> So you are in favor of this."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> I like what you're doing in Cypress. I"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "like what you're doing with de direct"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "democracy. I am also telling you the"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "truth. Previous efforts to do something"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "similar have failed. And they fail in"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "large part because of adoption. People"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "don't adopt the tool. They don't adopt"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "the practice. They don't show up to"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "vote. They don't learn the policy before"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "they cast a vote. They just vote in the"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "blind. It fails because of that, but it"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "also fails because of consistency,"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "because of of exercise. It's interesting"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "for a week or two, but then people"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "actually realize how much"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "democracy takes your time and takes your"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "energy and takes your effort."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": ">> Right? Democracy is a"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": ">> I also educate"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": ">> education takes more time also. So this"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "is one of those things where the truth"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "is that in a democracy not everybody is"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "equal."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "You're supposed to tell everybody that"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "they're equal, but they're not. The"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "majority of people in a democracy are"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "supposed to create GDP. They're supposed"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "to create revenue. They work all day."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "They spend all day. They sit around and"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "pay for entertainment. That's what"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "they're supposed to do. And a very small"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "population is supposed to make"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "decisions. And that's how democracy"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "actually works. That's that's how it has"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "worked for the last"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "1500 years. And that is very likely how"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "it will continue to work. small group of"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "people make big decisions and a large"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "group of people make one decision to"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "choose the small group of people because"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "it's healthy because like for me how I"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "see it let's say we have 18,000 people"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "we have in the app so these people means"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "that they are interested they're self"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "motivated they are interested in"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "politics they are learning they chose to"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "do so in a way you are taking not"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "everyone like like you say every vote is"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "not equal you're taking all the people"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "that have intrinsic interest to"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "participate inside this they don't get"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "anything back"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": ">> they just put they just share power like"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "in a way they just vote so yeah in a way"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "it's in a way cool filter system"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": ">> for people to and to be honest I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "[ __ ] surprised I was not expecting"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "this but like out of the 10 votes that I"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "put last year in the nine I was agreeing"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "with the people and in the 10th I was"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "like 50/50 and I was leaning a bit"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "towards the other but like it's"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "interesting uh um that actually this"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "system works and it's not that it's"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "perfect anyway a leader is not perfect"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "it will make mistakes and society when"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "they choose will make mistakes but they"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "will learn faster they will learn more"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "often and they will become a train in a"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "way society that chooses if they are"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "only choosing the muscle once every 5"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "years they don't have the muscle So that"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "the coolest thing about this is that the"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "entire societ not the entire society"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "that you elevate the consciousness of"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "the society because you are putting them"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "more responsibility they will uh think"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "about stuff they will see failure"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "success they will see some so yeah it's"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "for me it's like a huge education for"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "the population"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": ">> the other thing what I would caution you"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "on because I appreciate your vigor and I"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "think it's a worthwhile enterprise but"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "you have to recognize"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "that when people participate, it means"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "that they have the time to participate."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "They have the energy to participate."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "Well, who has time and energy?"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": ">> Rich people."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": ">> The opposite."}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": ">> No. Ah, the poor people. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> Young people, poor people. They're the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "ones that don't have a better thing to"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "do with their time."}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:44", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": ">> Rich people are busy working. Doctors,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "lawyers are working all day. They don't"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "have the time to play on an app. They"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "don't have the time to research the"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "policy that you're going to make your"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "vote on. They don't have the time to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "follow social media. They're working."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "People who have children, their time is"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "spent with their children. They've got"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "to get kids ready for bed. They got to"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "get kids teeth. So, you're only talking"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "the people that you're seeing contribute"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the most are actually the least"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "productive GDP people in your country."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": ">> That's an assumption."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> That's an assumption that can be proven"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "quickly enough if you take demographics"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "about the people that use the app."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Tell me how much money do you make"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "per year. Tell me how old you are. Tell"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "me what what your zip code is."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": ">> Very interesting."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": ">> Because what you really want to"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "represent is the people who have the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "largest GDP impact because those are the"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "people who have the wealth and the money"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "to leave your country if they choose"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "where the people who have the most time"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "and the most opinion are the people who"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "have the less resources to leave the"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "country. way you want because like for"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "example in the policies that you are"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "affecting you want in a way to represent"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "not the richest people or the most"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "represent all you want to represent all"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "so you want uh a combination of you of"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "everyone and if the more people are"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "poorer you want more people that are"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "poorer so it represents in a way better"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "the society"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": ">> it's this is"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": ">> because like and maybe you are right on"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "this because like the first policy"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "that came in the application. It's"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "everything is so expensive."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "uh which is true in Cyprus like uh"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "housing went over the roof and all this"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "stuff and this is a problem across"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Europe."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "You met your wife who was also a CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "agent. Like were you guys dating when"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "you were both in the CIA?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> And then what kind of what was what kind"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "of agent was she?"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> She was what's known as a targeter. So"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "she came on as a traininee just like I"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "did, but her training track was taking"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "her to be a a human intelligence target."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "So human intelligence targeters are"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "targeters uh they're people who find"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "human targets. And when they find those"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "human targets, they determine if those"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "human targets are targets for"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "collection, meaning that target has"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "secrets that we want to collect or"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "whether they're targets for"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "neutralization, which means we need to"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "kill that target. But"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> well, she has a cool job. Why is she not"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "doing this this this type of interview?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> She's she has and she has an anxiety"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "disorder as well."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Hold on a minute. your wife who is like"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "a covert CIA agent finding targets and"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "that she has the anxiet"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> correct"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> she has an anxiety"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> that's what made her so good at the job"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> because she was hypervigilant and"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "hyperfocused or she didn't want to make"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "a mistake"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> she could work long hours she was very"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "diligent she double and triple checked"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "her work she would never leap to"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "conclusions she was just as wired as I"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "was to need external validation right"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "she's also on that [ __ ] up scale"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> yeah just in a different way. Whereas"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "for me, I needed novelty. I needed"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "unpredictability. I needed an open space"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "and and more danger than I could really"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "even identify. She needed a closed room"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "with no windows and a database of"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "anything she could possibly have"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "interest in and nobody to interrupt her"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "for 16 hours. Like, we needed different"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "things, but we were still out for the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "same outcome. we still needed that attab"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "boy that pat on the back that you're"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "changing history kind of moment."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> So she so she would actually go and find"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "targets. How like how would she do it?"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> She would do it all through through um"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "confidential databases, clandestine"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "databases, stolen databases. Like when"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "you hear about a data breach, have you"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "ever thought about why there's a data"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "breach?"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Nobody ever does because the data breach"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "becomes data that goes into some other"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "tool that you can use to cross"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "reference. So, when the Chinese come and"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "break into our city bank data, you're"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "like, \"Oh, well, clearly they're trying"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "to steal people's money.\" No, what"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "they're looking for is they're looking"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "for connections between people. They're"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "looking for people's home addresses."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "They're looking for their history of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "transactions. They're looking for for"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "information, what we call a data lake."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "They're looking for information inside"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "the data lake that helps them to create"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "some kind of operation. And that's"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "exactly what my wife used to do for CIA."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> How long was she there for?"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> Same as me. We we entered duty the same"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "week and then we actually left service"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the same week as well. Um we"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> by coincidence or"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> No no no we left together"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> but no. Yeah but"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> but by it was coincidental that we"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "joined at the same time. We we joined at"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "different times but our training dates"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "aligned because she had an anxiety"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "disorder. So when she was supposed to"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "show up the first day, she had like a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "nervous a nervous uh"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> like a panic attack."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Panic attack. Ended up going to"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "the hospital. ended up spending like a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "week and a half in the hospital getting"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "IV fluids and everything else because"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "she couldn't go to work. Of all the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "places she ever thought she would work,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "she never thought she would work at CIA."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "My wife used to work for a nonprofit"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "called um Jewish Jewish Family Services."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Your wife's Jewish?"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> No, she's Buddhist. My wife is a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Buddhist social worker who worked for a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "Jewish nonprofit in Florida because"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "that's what she wanted to do with her"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "life. She wanted to to dedicate herself"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "to helping underprivileged people who"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "were trying to reintegrate into society,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "right? People who were refugees, people"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "who were who were in some way, shape, or"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "form needed help. And the first company,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the first nonprofit to hire her was was"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the Jewish Family Services."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> And that's where she came from. And she"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "was recruited by CIA out of that. So she"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "was she was not trying to work for CIA."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "She never she thought CIA was the devil,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "but she was also $80,000 in law school"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "debt. And CIA was like, \"Hey, we we see"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "that you have $80,000 in law school"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "debt. If you come work for us for 5"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "years, we'll forgive your debt. We'll"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "pay for it.\""}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> How did they even find her?"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> The same way that they find all of us."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "They There's somebody who spots you,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> right? I know you explained that. How"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "did she get found?"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> So, she was applying for government"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "jobs,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> but her government jobs were different"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "than my government jobs. So she was"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "looking for a stable um health and human"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "services um government accountability"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "office, department of transportation."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "She was trying to go anywhere in the US"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "government except"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> What made you leave? What made you what"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "what made both of you leave?"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> So um we wrote a book about our most"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "significant mission together, the the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "book Shadow Cell that we were talking"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "about earlier."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Um during that operation, we got"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "pregnant."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> We weren't trying not to. We weren't"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "trying to get pregnant, but we found out"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that we were pregnant. So, we were"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "undercover on an operation and pregnant"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "together. If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "natural-born spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "types of people in the world. Those who"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "use their skills against you. All you"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "have to do is click on the first link in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "the description below or scan the QR"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "code on your screen to start your spy"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "quiz. Now, I want you to discover your"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "secret spy superpower and use it for"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "good before somebody else uses their"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "power against you. As soon as we found"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "out we were pregnant, we started"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "communicating with CIA and we're like,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "\"Hey, there's a baby coming in 9 months."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "We're not leaving the OP. Like, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "going to stay here and we're going to do"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "what we have to do, but we're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "need your help when the baby comes so"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "that you can give us the space to focus"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "on being parents for a year or two so"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "that we can get this kid into school.\""}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Because what we don't want to do is like"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "leave them with a Filipina babysitter 18"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "hours a day and then find out a year"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "later that they think that the Filipina"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "is mom and they don't recognize us,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> So we start telling CIA, \"Hey, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "going to plan for this.\" And CIA says,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "\"That's wise. You should have a plan for"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "what you're going to do postpartum. We"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "want to take care of jih. We want to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "take care of you. That's good.\" Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "then the baby actually comes. And once"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the baby actually comes, CIA story"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "changes. And all of a sudden now it's"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "well you guys are too important to the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "mission and family has to come first."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Mission comes first or family has to"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "come second. Mission always comes first."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "You knew that when you signed up. So you"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "can't stop traveling. You can't stop"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "this. We're not going to slow down. Like"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "you you just had this fantastic"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "operation overseas. How can you just"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "stop for two years to raise your kid?"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "That's not going to work. Well, we"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "realized in that moment that CIA's"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "interests were not the same as our"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "interests. Like I I came from a very"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "difficult childhood. I did not want my"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "children to have a difficult childhood."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "I grew up without a father. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "want my kids to grow up without a"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "father. My wife had the opposite"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "experience. She had a very enriching,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "very loving household and that is"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "exactly what she wanted to give her"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "children too."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> So CIA was putting us in this box where"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "they seemed to assume that we were going"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "to put country before we put family and"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that's just not how we were wired. This"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "was 2014. And I would argue that what I"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "was what my wife and I were feeling was"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "pretty culturally consistent with what"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "many people were feeling at that age in"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "that time frame. We were not putting"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "career before everything. That was an"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "older generation that used to do that."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "We were not um unquestioning of"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "authority. We would question authority."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "It was a previous generation that didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "question authority. We weren't out for"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the the retirement um stipend. We were"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "out for building a life that had purpose"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "and meaning. So CIA miscalculated the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "cultural"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "um priorities that we had and as a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "result when they gave us no other"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "choice, we were like, \"Well, then we're"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "just going to resign. We're just going"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "to leave.\""}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> Wow. So have so they so does the CIA not"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "keep up with the cultural times and"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "evolve with like the new way people are"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "doing or conducting"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> that's not just CIA that's federal"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "government federal government does a"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "very poor job of of understanding the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "intersection between um generational"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "development generational changes and"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "priorities because the government really"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "doesn't am doesn't understand how"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "anybody doesn't think the government's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "the most important thing How could you"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "not think that working in the government"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "is great? How could you not think that"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "working in the government is a the best"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "job ever? How could you not want to work"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "for CIA? They can't even fathom that"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "because they're not a professional"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "um incentivized organization. Right."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "It's not like Booze Allen or or uh"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "SpaceX or anybody else. They they have"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "to create a work environment that people"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "want to work in. The government has"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "never had to do that. The government's"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "always been the place where you work"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "when you're nationalistic or when you"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "want stability."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> And the people who work in the overt"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "positions, are they allowed to tell"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "people they work for the CIA?"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> It's just the covert people."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> Okay. And then what about um for you?"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "What would you say is your top skill"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "now? Like what's your what are you like"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "a like a what's your what are you a"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "master at now because of all of this?"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> And I I wouldn't call myself a master at"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "anything. I think I'm a a constantly"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "evolving student like so many of us. I"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "will say that the the thing that I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "given the most credit for is my ability"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "to communicate"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> complex ideas into simple tools like"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "simple explanations. Well, because what"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "would you Okay, so for the like for the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "average person listening like a"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "civilian, I still want to know some like"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "tactical things that people can get"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "better at to help them with being a"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "leader, with decision- making, with, you"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "know, finding the career they want. Like"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "what are some like things that are blind"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "spots that we're not even thinking about"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "that we can improve?"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> One of the biggest blind spots is"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "something that I call persuasion versus"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "I'm sorry, um, perspective versus"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "perception. I told you the story about"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "how my dad used to say like,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> you know, perception is everything."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> Perception is actually not everything."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "CIA taught me the truth of it. So, I"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "would love to teach my dad this now if"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "he would be receptive, which he probably"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "isn't in his 80s, but"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> do you talk to your dad now?"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> No, I haven't talked to him in"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> a long time. But, uh, perception is how"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "you see the world around you."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> That's perception. And we all live in"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "our own perception. So the person who's"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "trying to get a a new career, the person"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "who's trying to build a relationship,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "the person who's trying to save a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "marriage, the person who's trying to"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "reach their child, the person who's"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "trying to finish college, they wake up"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "every day in their own perception. They"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "execute the day in their own perception."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Eating when they're hungry, going when"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "they are ready to go, showering when"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "they want to shower, going to sleep when"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "they want to go to sleep, reading what"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "they want to read, watching what they"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "want to watch, talking about what they"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "want to talk about. That's how we all"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "live our life in our perception. Well,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "CIA taught us that to gain power over"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "other people, you need to step out of"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "your perception and step into a position"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "of perspective. Perspective means"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "collecting the objective information in"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "the environment around you and then"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "using that as your foundation of truth,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "not your perception. Right? So if I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "sitting there talking to a person, I"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "want to understand how they view the"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "moment that we're in because if I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "try to gain that perspective, I will be"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "trapped in my own perception assuming"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "that I know what's happening in this"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "moment. Does that make sense?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> Yes. That is one of the biggest tools"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "that we can give people because 99.9% of"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "people naturally default to their own"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "perception or their own perspective."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Excuse me. Their own perception."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> I know it's like that's a I know. Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "So to get out of our own perception and"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "seeing the perspective of somebody else."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> Correct. So for example, I know that in"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "this room you're hot. like you feel warm"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "because you took off your sweatshirt and"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I threw it on the treadmill."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": ">> Yeah. And and that was a that was a"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "multi-step process for you to do that. I"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "feel like the room is comfortable. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "my perception is that the temperature in"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "the room is comfortable. But if I assume"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "that that's the truth, then I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "have to assume that there's something"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "wrong with you for taking off your"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "warmer layer,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> But if I instead change my perspective,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "I'm like, \"Oh, she thinks the room's"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "hot.\" But now that gives me a chance to"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "change the temperature in the room. Ask"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "somebody else to change the temperature"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "in the room. Offer you a cold drink. And"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "now these are all things that you are"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "also already thinking about. And when I"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "reflect them to you, you start to feel"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "validated. You start to feel like I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "understanding you without you even"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "having to say anything."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> What if you're dealing with something"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that's not so benign like the"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "temperature in the room, right? Like if"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "you're dealing with like a real life"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "issue or like a decision or or a"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "perspective perception that's very very"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "different."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> Okay. Um I actually deal with this quite"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "a bit. If you want I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "example you have in your mind but one of"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "the first thing comes to my mind is when"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "bosses have to fire employees."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> Right. So the boss calls an employee"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "into the room. The employee is obviously"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "there with a very different expectation"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "than why the boss is there."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> Yeah. And many bosses struggle with this"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "because they feel guilty about taking"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "the person's job and it's going to cause"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "him so much stress and it's not even the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "boss's decision. It's what he was told"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "to do on a Friday at 4:00, right? And"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "it's a very difficult position. So, what"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "I always try to tell them to do is, hey,"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "put yourself in your employees shoes."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Put take your perspective take your"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "perception of the situation away and"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "dawn the perspective of the actual"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "situation. It's Friday. How does your"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "employee feel on a Friday? It's 4:00."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "How does your employee feel on a Friday"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "at 4:00? What are they thinking about?"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "They're thinking about logging off."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "They're thinking about going home."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "They're thinking about a nice weekend"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "with their family. They're thinking"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "about all sorts of things that are"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "completely different than what you are"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "thinking about in that moment."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": ">> So, if you really want to get through"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "this situation, you want to connect with"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "your employee first."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "It's Friday. you've done a great you've"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "you've done great work all week. You"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "must be excited about getting home. What"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "are you doing this weekend?"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> And then you're going to fire them after"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "that. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> absolutely. Because what you're what the"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "boss is actually afraid of is making the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "employee feel bad when they get the bad"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "news."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": ">> Well, they're going to feel bad. Doesn't"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "matter if you ask them how they're"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "excited about their if if you ask me,"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "\"Am I excited about the weekend?\" I"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "said, \"Yeah, I'm so excited.\" And then"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "you're like, \"Okay, well, you're fired.\""}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "That doesn't make it better."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": ">> If you do it that way, you're right. It"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "doesn't make it better."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": ">> No. Right."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": ">> But if you validate, if you if you"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "understand what they're doing, you maybe"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": ">> maybe what they're excited about has"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "nothing to do with what you're excited"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "about. Maybe what they're going to say"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "is, \"Yeah, I was I mean, really, I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "just stressed out because I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "go have to do work all weekend because"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "I'm so far behind and there's no way to"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "there's no way to get out of this and"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "I'm going to miss my son's soccer game,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "but it's going to be okay because he's"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "got 10 more soccer games this season,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "whatever else.\" You have no idea. This"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "is the whole point of perception and"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "perspective. You have zero idea what"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "they're actually thinking until you step"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "out of your perception and get into the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "actual objective truth of the situation."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "So there is no you do not lose when you"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "gain more information and more"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "perspective in a situation. You can"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "change the words that you use. You can"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "change your framing. You can change how"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "you share the news. You can change when"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "you share the news. Right? You have lots"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "of power when you gain perspective. But"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "if you're trapped in your perception,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "you're just sitting there worried."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Sitting there worried the whole time."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "And then you you stumble through this"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "whole thing where it's like, \"Hey, uh,"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "corporate decisions have been made and"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "you've been downsized and I'm sorry to"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "tell you that, but that's the way it is"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "and you need to clear your desk out by"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "5:00.\""}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "And that to the other person, guaranteed"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "that will make them feel like you're"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "against them. That will make them feel"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "horrible. But if you take the time to"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "gain some perspective, maybe what you"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "can say is, \"Hey, the company's been"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "going through some hard times lately.\""}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "And as a result, they're selecting"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "people that have to be let go early."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "You're on that list, but I want you to"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "know I've already considered three of"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "three recommendations that I think you"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "should go work for. I'm happy to write"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "you a recommendation letter. The company"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "is requiring that I give you this"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "information before 5:00 today, but"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "you're welcome to stay in your desk as"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "long as you need to. If you need any"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "help over the weekend, give me a call."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "completely changes the the feeling of"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "the same outcome."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": ">> All right. I like that one. Give me"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "another one."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": ">> I like that one."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": ">> That there's what I'm trying to what I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "trying to get across is that when you"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "put yourself in someone else's shoes, my"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "kids."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> No, no. The percept that one I got the"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "perception perspective."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": ">> I want another another thing that"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "someone that might have a blind spot on"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "that can be helpful for them. M"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "so there's a"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> decision-m for negotiation."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> Yeah, there's a that's exactly where I"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "was going. The the the I was telling you"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "earlier about something called a core"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "emotion."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": ">> Core emotion being the one driving"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "emotion. There's a separate um entity, a"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "separate behavioral practice that's"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "called the core motivation. We all have"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "a core motivation as well. There's four"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "primary motivations and they fall into"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "an acronym called Rice."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:12", "text": ">> Reward, ideology, coercion, and ego. R I"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "C E reward, ideology, coercion, and ego."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": ">> All of us are motivated by all four of"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "those motivations"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> to different extents at different times"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "in our lives, right? Reward is of course"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "something that you want and you're"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "motivated to get what you want. 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And then e, ego,"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "we're all motivated to to personify and"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "be interpreted as a way that we want to"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "be seen, whether we want to be seen as"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "strong or we want to be seen as patient"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "or we want to be seen as giving or"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "forgiving or we want to be seen as"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "courageous. So all of us have all four"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "of these motivations at play just like"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "we all have the six primary emotions"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "always at play but each of us is"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "primarily motivated by one of those four"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "motivations at any given time above all"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "the others."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> Do you think that people can learn or is"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "it more innate uh to be emotionally"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "intelligent?"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "I would say that you have to learn to be"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "emotionally intelligent more so than"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "have it be an innate skill. And it's"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "because emotional intelligence requires"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "you to not only be self-aware of your"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "emotions, but"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "empathetic enough to recognize the"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "emotions of another person. That's hard"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "to do that automatically. Usually, it"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "takes effort to to"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "be able to classify, identify, and"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "characterize the way that those emotions"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "blend."}]

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So, when it comes to the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "fundamentals of Iran, I'm there. But"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "what an Iran specialist understands far"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "exceeds my knowledge. for years,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "decades, uh maybe since I was a child,"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "uh with the hostage crisis forward, it"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "was always my understanding that that"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "was the one country that was the most"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "significant other than maybe Russia and"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "China, but the next country that maybe"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "our relations were poor and the nuclear"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "risk was high and that they were funding"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "constantly funding things around the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "globe against us And then we fly over"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "there and we drop a bunker buster bomb"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "on their nuclear enrichment factory."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> One of them."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> One of them."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Why was there no retaliation to that?"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "What in the like I I couldn't believe we"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "did it because it was counter to"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "everything that I ever believed that the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "way that we wanted to handle that"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "situation, but yet we just did it. And"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "I'm I'm interested if there's any"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "insight you have around why we did it"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "and whether that what that has done with"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "our position with that country. Remember"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "how I was telling you espionage is a is"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "a franchise. Everybody does it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "One of the key elements of espionage is"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "covert action. Meaning you take action"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "that nobody can see. What we did when we"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "dropped uh those deep penetrating bombs"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "on the Natan's factory, the weapons in"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "nuclear enrichment factory, we did not"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "take covert action. We took overt"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "action."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> When you don't see response from overt"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "action, it's virtually guaranteed that"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "there is covert action as the response."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Okay. Iran understands that the worst"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Iran, China, and Russia have all learned"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "from al-Qaeda."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "You don't [ __ ] with the United States"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "publicly, right? If you think about what"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "these countries have done to the United"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "States in the last 25 years, China broke"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "into our military records database in"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "2013 and stole every military record of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "every retired, deceased, and active duty"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "military member from the database itself"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "and got away with it. We didn't do"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "anything against China. We kept buying"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "their plastic [ __ ] They kept buying our"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "our rice and metal [ __ ] right? because"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "there was no overt response to their"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "overt attack. Everything we did was"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "covert. All of our response to China"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "after that was something the public"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "couldn't see that the government didn't"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "want the public to see it because if"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "there was public response, there'd be"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "escalation. Iran is the same way."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "They're not stupid backount hillbillies."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "They're not dumb."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "They're just prioritizing their"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "responses differently than what we would"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "expect. Americans often times forget we"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "are the wealthiest, most capable"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "military in the world with the most"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "modern technology and weapon systems at"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "our disposal."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> If you were the big kid on the on the uh"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "playground and you went up and you"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "punched some little kid in the face, do"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "you really think that little kid's going"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "to come back and try to punch you in the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "face? No. That little kid's going to"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "bond with other little kids and they're"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "going to be like, \"Hey, how do we"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> pee in the guy's milk at lunch?\" That's"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "what they're going to figure out. So"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "that's what Iran does."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> You also have to put in context what"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "happened in the months leading up to the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "bombing of the Natan's facility. Israel"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "had escalated conflict with Iran."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> They had already flown in cruise"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "missiles and fighter jets. They had"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "neutralized and destroyed almost all of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Iran's counter defensive tech"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "capabilities. They had blown up their"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "surfaceto-air missiles. They had knocked"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "down their radar systems. Iran was"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "blind. So the reason the United States"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the reason Trump was comfortable flying"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "in some of our most expensive assets to"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "drop a couple of bombs on a country that"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "was completely sovereign and technically"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "at peace with the United States was"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "because he knew that there was no system"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "to respond. The reason Israel took the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "risk to destroy all that was to get the"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "United States involved in this conflict."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "So there's many many movements on the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "chessboard that you have to take into"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "account before you think about just the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "bunker buster. And then in response to"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the bunker buster, my my point here is"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "whatever Iran is doing, they didn't have"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "to do it right away."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> They don't have to do it overtly. So"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "what is the covert response that they're"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "planning that they have already put in"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "motion that maybe has even happened and"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "we just haven't been publicly exposed to"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "it. Maybe they launched some kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "digital uh Trojan horse against DoD"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "that's causing absolute havoc with Space"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Force right now. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "discovered your natural-born spy skills,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "then somebody else might be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "against you. CIA teaches us that there"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "are only three types of people in the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "world. Those who motivate, those who"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "manipulate, and those who are being"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "controlled by one of the other two. I"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "created a threeinut CIA style quiz to"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "help you unlock your secret"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "psychological advantage and identify"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "your hidden blind spot. This test was"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "developed to help you weaponize your"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "naturalb born gifts and use them to get"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "ahead of 99% of people in power, wealth,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and purpose. It was also designed to"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "make sure that you can protect yourself"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "against those who would use their skills"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "against you. All you have to do is click"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "on the first link in the description"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "below or scan the QR code on your screen"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "to start your spy quiz now. I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "to discover your secret spy superpower"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "and use it for good before somebody else"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "uses their power against you. But it's"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "all covert, so the American public"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "doesn't know it's there."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Well, we were already fighting a proxy"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "war in Israel through Hamas and all"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "those other places that are funded by"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Iran. So, it was just um it was an"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "escalation to a already public"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "skirmish that we were fighting through"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "others. And think about how long it took"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "before the American public even"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "recognized that the conflict between"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> Hamas and Israel was a proxy war with"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Iran. It that 2 and 1/2 year fight went"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "a full 18 months before anybody any"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "average lay American was like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "we're actually fighting Iran.\" There's"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "some people probably listening to this"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "now that are like"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> like what?"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> We were fighting with Iran. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I have something that I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "deeply interested in your opinion on."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "You just mentioned the theft of the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "military records by China. You've got"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Tik Tok installed on hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "millions of people's phones which can"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "provide all kinds of information about"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the whereabouts and the ongoings of"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "American citizens."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "um you have the ability u there is the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "ability to literally"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "scrape any device of all of its"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "information at any time without"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "proximity whether it be laptops"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "computers cell phones any of these"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "things and there's just so much"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "information out there but from our"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "perspective the public's perspective the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "ability to have artificial intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to make sense of that mess"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "is new."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": ">> But is it new for the government?"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> No. No. Even when I was at CIA as a new"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "recruit in 2007, AI was already actively"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "being employed."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> It's not the generative AI creating"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "fancy videos and deep fakes that we're"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "used to seeing now,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> It was precursor to that. But when you"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "think about the head start that that CIA"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "had on AI in 2007"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "versus when AI became a mainstream topic"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "to the lay American in what 2024."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> It's a huge advantage."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> And that if we had it, all of our allies"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "had it. The Brits, the Canadians, the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Australians, the New Zealanders, the uh"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the Israelis, the Turks."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> And if they had it, then their biggest"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "competitors also had it. the Chinese,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "the Russians, the North Koreans, uh the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "Saudis, the Amiradis, the Iranians. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "everybody's had a head start."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "When I look at the AI race now, we're"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "all 15 years behind. The average"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "American and their opinion is 15 years"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "uninformed about the risk of AI. When we"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "look at China now and we see what their"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "capabilities are publicly now, right, we"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "are 15 years behind what their actual"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "capabilities are because they've been"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "investing in it covertly as well. When"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "we look at the generative capability"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "that exists in the United States, we"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "have to hope that our intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "services are also 15 years ahead of what"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "we see. Otherwise, the race is already"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "over."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "As an American,"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "is there anything that I have that is"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "secure? No. There's nothing you have"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "that's secure. I tell this to people all"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "the time, and it's a very uncomfortable"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "truth. If you become a target, and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "unfortunately, we live in a world right"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "now where you can become a political"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "target also, right? If you become a"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "target, there's nothing you can do. Just"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "like you were saying a few seconds ago"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "there, you can remotely scrape any"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "digital device anywhere in the world."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "And if you can do that, I mean, here's"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "what's amazing. It costs about $30,000"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "to remotely scrape anyone's technology."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "I I can make a phone call right now,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "transfer 30 grand, and scrape your"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "entire phone without you knowing about"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "it. Scrape your personal laptop. Scrape"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "your Netflix account. Scrape your your"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "smart TV or smart refrigerator."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Anything."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": ">> Is that a public or private resource?"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> That's a private resource"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> available to anybody."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> Anybody. Anybody that has my figures"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "that they want to spend on it"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> and the phone number"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> and people people well and a phone"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "number or a contact that has close"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "access to your phone. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "you know this, my phone and your phone"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "simply by being within proximity share"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "data. They share data if you have"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "certain apps installed."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "One of those apps is Meta."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> If you have Facebook or Instagram on"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "your phone, the proximity of those two"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "phones can actually share data about the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "other phone."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "It's something called geo fencing."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Totally legit, right? Commercial"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "technology, but that makes it so I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "even need to know your phone number. I"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "just need to know that she's in the room"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "with us and her phone's with her."}]

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All"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "that boring all happens there, too."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> Uh, and she started the same day as I"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "did and that's where we actually crossed"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "paths for the first time."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> So, you got in, you went through"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "training, you didn't get certified,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "correct? So you ended up um uh having a"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "role and then she was a tracker. So were"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "you working together at that point in"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "time?"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> When we first finished training, we were"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "on two very different trajectories"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "because I was I was in training to be a"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "case officer,"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> And the the way that you actually get"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "through that training is through a panel"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "that has to subjectively decide yes, we"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "want to work with you or no, we don't"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "want to work with you."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> And that panel decided no for me. They"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "were like, \"You're too unpredictable."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "You're too inconsistent. You're too"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "loud.\" Um, like obvious. You're too"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "recognizable. So, we don't want to work"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "with you. So, I'm no longer on the case"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "officer track, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> I end up kind of in this unknown bucket"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "that is like the the Misfit toys or the"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "island of Misfit Toys, right? But my"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "wife finishes top of her class in a"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "completely different skill set targeting"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "and she's immediately assigned to one of"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the highest profile units at CIA because"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "she's like an upandcomer superstar in"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "her little field."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> So now she's got the whole force of the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "government agency behind her launching"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "her career and I've got the weight on my"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "shoulders kind of depressing my career."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> But we are at the place in our"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "relationship where I'm like this woman"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "is special."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> Okay. So whatever I have to do to stay"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "close to her, I'm going to do. So even"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "though I'm, you know, in the basement in"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "the drags getting shhat on at the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "agency, my career is probably never"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "going to grow, never going to recover,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> It's worth it because at 5:00 every day,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "I punch out and go home and have this"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "beautiful, brilliant woman who's"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "successful. So that was what kept me at"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the agency was was her. And then it took"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "about two years before her success and"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "my like buildback, if you will,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> collided and CIA saw an opportunity to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "use somebody like me who was like doing"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "armpit missions around the world and"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "somebody like her who was a high flyer"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "and put us together on an operation"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "which became the shadow cell operation"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "of my book. Uh, it became kind of the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "heartbeat, the thing that really"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "rekindled my fascination, my passion, my"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "love for espionage."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> Were you looking for loyalty?"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> When I was looking at assets, I was"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "looking for people who were selfish, but"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "for yourself to join the agency. People,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "one of the things about the CIA is they"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "look for people that don't have anything"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "else to be loyal to, so they'll be loyal"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "to the agency. Is that to the country or"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "is it different?"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> It's different. It's different because"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "loyalty has a positive connotation."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> Right. Like who doesn't want loyal"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "friends and who doesn't want to be loyal"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "to something."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Nobody thinks about the abusive side of"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "loyalty."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Specifically the manipulative side of"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "loyalty where you bull trick guilt shame"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "people into predictable behavior which"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "is what many of us actually understand."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "That's what loyalty really is. A dog is"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "loyal to its owner even when its owner"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "beats it, even when its owner kicks it,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "even when its owner says terrible things"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "to it."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> You know, the owner only gives a dog one"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "kind of food. And often times the owner"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "is the one that picks that food. And"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "they pick the food based on cheapness or"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "volume or something other than what's"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "best for the dog, but that dog's loyal"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "as hell. That's the relationship that"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "CIA creates with its officers. an"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "unhealthy"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "loyalty, an addiction, a a need to a"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "master. And it's necessary because"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "morality has no place in effective ops."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> That's exactly right. At the end of the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "day, you need an asset to work for an"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "organization"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "where that asset will take action that's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "in the best interest of the country and"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "the outcome without being in their own"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "personal best interest."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> That's right. and doing whatever it"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "takes. Rules are different around the"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "world. We have a sense of right and"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "wrong here. And it doesn't exist"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "everywhere."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> It doesn't exist everywhere or it's"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "different."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> And people are"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Oh, what's the best way to say it? We're"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "broken"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> everywhere. And we have vices that need"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "to be met. And we have"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "uh greed. we have and sometimes we have"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "real needs, children to go to college,"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> things like that. So, playing on all of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "those things uh with a whatever it takes"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "strategy is really what makes the whole"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "operation successful."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> It's what makes it all tick. And if you"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "don't like that, if you haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "discovered your natural-born spy skills,"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "then somebody else might be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "against you. 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This test was"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "developed to help you weaponize your"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "naturalb born gifts and use them to get"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "ahead of 99% of people in power, wealth,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "and purpose. It was also designed to"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "make sure that you can protect yourself"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "against those who would use their skills"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "against you. All you have to do is click"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "on the first link in the description"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "below or scan the QR code on your screen"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "to start your spy quiz now. I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "to discover your secret spy superpower"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "and use it for good before somebody else"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "uses their power against you. Then you"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "get to sit back and just enjoy the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "benefits of the fact that there are"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "other people who do the job that you"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "can't do."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Right? I I think of it a lot like I"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "think of plumbers or like I think of"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "dentists"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> or like I think of uh of trash and"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "garbage people."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> those are all jobs I don't want to do. I"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "don't want to stick my fingers in"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "somebody else's mouth. I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "have to see the bad hygiene that they"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "have chosen. I don't want to pick up"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "their trash. I don't want to smell their"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "trash. I don't want to have to deal with"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "their plumbing and see their from"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the night before. I don't want that. But"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "I'm very glad that other people do that."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> That's right. And that's what CIA is."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "They do the thing that you may not like"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> but has to be done"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> to keep you hygienic, to keep you safe,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "to keep you healthy, to keep you secure"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "in the life that you have, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> In a way that you don't even know"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "they're doing it."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> Right. You only get your cleaning once"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "every six months. You don't you're not"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "even aware of your dentist for the rest"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "of the 5 months and 29 days between"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "visits. You don't even think of them."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> That's right. And that's what CIA, you"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "don't even think of CIA until they're in"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the headlines."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, life is an illusion. I I"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "believe it. Everything that I've amassed"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "can be gone in an instant. And it just,"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "you know, we we live in this bubble and"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "our reality can change in a second. And"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "there's people out there doing things"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "that keep our illusion intact. You know,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "our way of life as we believe what it"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "is. And it's um many people don't want"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to hear it. They don't want to see it."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "They don't want to think about it. They"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "just want to get on Facebook, go to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "work, you know, see a movie, watch"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "football, and there's people that have"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "drastically different lifestyles, you"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "know, to make the whole thing work."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> It's incredible. in all of the agency in"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "in all of the organizations that we"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "have. Is there in all of the counter"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "intelligence that's constantly"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "assaulting every country by every"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "country towards every country? Is there"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "ever a time where we don't have a mole?"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> It's a great question. CIA operates from"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the assumption that at any given time"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "you have three moles active that you"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "haven't discovered."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> that's if"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> that seems reasonable."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> That seems reasonable. And if you don't"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "have a mole, if you don't have a mole,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "we just assume that there are three. If"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "you do have a mole, you assume that"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "there are five."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> Because"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> when you discover one, you know that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "your theory about three was wrong."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> So you have to increase your theory. And"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "that's that's a type of counter"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "intelligence that we call defensive"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "counter intelligence. You've mentioned"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the term counter intelligence twice. So"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "I just want to make sure like there's a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "very specific definition for counter"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "intelligence. Counter intelligence has"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "two arms. Offensive counter"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "intelligence, defensive counter"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "intelligence. Offensive counter"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "intelligence is when you are trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "collect intelligence about an"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "intelligence organization."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "That's offensive counter intelligence."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "You are actively countering their"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "capability by stealing their secrets."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Okay?"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> Then you have defensive counter"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "intelligence, which is when you try to"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "prevent a foreign intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "organization from stealing your"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "intelligence information. Okay. So when"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "we talk about moles, we are talking"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "about both offensive and defensive"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "operations. We are actively trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "find and neutralize the moles among us,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "but we are also actively trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "create moles and penetrations that will"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "get into intelligence services around"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "the world. M it's almost like theft or"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "embezzlement in a corporate setting"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "where one person can do so much. But if"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "you get two people, say the person that"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "opens the mail, the person that deposits"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the checks, the person that writes the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "checks, if these there's two people"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "together, the exposure is so much"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "higher. And I'm interested to um so I"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "just have to inter I have to interject"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "because it's such a great point."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Espionage is a crime and I don't think"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "people realize that CIA is a criminal"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "organization. Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> I don't think people realize that in"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "what they do."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> Yeah. In in by nature of what they do."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "If CIA were in the United States without"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> presidential protection."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> They would they would literally be an"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "organized criminal organization. They"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "would fall under they would fall under"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "FBI for investigation and arrest. But"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "because they serve national security"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "interests, there's a specific carveout,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "what's called an authority, an executive"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "authority, a presidential authority"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "granted to everybody who's a sworn"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "member of CIA that protects them from"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "their criminal activity. And then as to"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "meet that presidential authority, the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "criminal activity must be directed"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "against foreign countries or foreign"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "nationals. So the idea that CIA collects"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "on Americans, the idea that CIA commits"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "crimes and criminal actions inside the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "United States is patently false. They"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "cannot. If they did, they would fall"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "outside of their presidential authority"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and they would they would be under the"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "purview of arrest. Which is why CIA"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "moles like Aldrich"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> Ames"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> get arrested because they they step"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "outside of their presidential protection"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "and then they are they are due processed"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "for a criminal activity, right? when"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Americans discover that there's some"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "kind of illegal activity against them"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "like the uh like Watergate or like the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "collection of data that came because of"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "the Snowden uh exposure, right?"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> What they don't realize is that what"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "they don't realize is that what they're"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "being told and what the reality of it is"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "are two different things. What Snowden"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "exposed was not a giant cover up to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "steal American data. What Snowden"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "exposed was an approved government"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "operation that included multiple"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "organizations"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> that had multiple uh rooms, teams of"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "cleared attorneys and judges who had all"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "collaborated and said, \"If we do it this"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "way, it's legal. If we do it that way,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "it's illegal. So, we will stay firmly"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "within the legal boundaries.\""}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> And Snowden just disagreed with it."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And then when he exposed it,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> Yeah. It went to a civilian court that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "doesn't understand the nuances of"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "classification and that isn't that"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "doesn't have the need to know to be able"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "to see what really is being exchanged."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> So now you have an uninformed civilian"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "court making a decision on a privileged"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "classified activity. Of course they're"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "going to have a different conclusion"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "than the internal judges. And that"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "that's what happens over and over again"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "with these pro these whistleblowers who"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "claim that they're helping the American"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "people when all they're really doing is"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "stirring up a pot that is making us less"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "safe."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Is it Simar was the mole in the book?"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> Scimitar. Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> Scimitar. That's how that's pronounced."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "Are you at liberty to share how long he"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "may have been operating as a mole before"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "the CIA found out or suspected that"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "there was one? uh in generalities. Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "So uh the estimate that we have at CIA"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "for scimitar is that he was engaging"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "with foreign intelligence about a year"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "after he left CIA."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> So he was still connected to CIA. He"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "still had a peer network in CIA. He"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "still had information of privileged uh"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "knowledge. When you leave CIA, you don't"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "lose your network. You don't lose your"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "assets. You don't lose your friends. You"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "don't lose your email addresses. you"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "still know secrets. So he started"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "cooperating shortly after he left. But"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "then as the years progressed, he became"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "less useful because he didn't have real"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "time access. So then after about 3"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "years, he tried to apply to go back to"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": ">> Another thing that people don't realize,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "CIA does not do well with attrition."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "They put about 2 million $2.5 million"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "worth of training into everybody who"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "works at CIA. They put about $2.5"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "million of training into everybody who"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "becomes a CIA officer. Well, then when"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "those people retire, when they separate,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "when they get medically retired, when"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "they leave, now they're a huge"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "vulnerability to CIA,"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": ">> So CIA wants to make it really easy for"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "you to come back to the fold. So, we all"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "know as CIA officers that that back door"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "entrance to get back in is way less"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "scrupulous than the front entrance"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> propped open."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> So, all we have to do is basically make"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "a phone call and we're back in."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": ">> Well, he tried to make that phone call"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "about 3 years in, but he was already on"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "FBI's radar."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> It's on the watch list."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": ">> So, that door was available to him, but"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "the full access was not. And that's"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "where the case really started to build"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "because now they could see him taking"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "active steps to try to get back in,"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "communicating with his handlers in the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "foreign country of Falcon, trying again"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "a different way and communicating again."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "And that's that unfortunately or"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "fortunately in the United States that"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "data is needed to build a case of"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "evidence that will hold up in a court of"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "law where he's being tried by his peers."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": ">> How were you and Ji approached to help"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "with this problem?"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "It was actually really funny. Uh, I was"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "doing my operations, she was doing her"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "operations, which I can't I can't"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "emphasize enough how different those"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "operations were. Um, basically I was"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "getting all the jobs that nobody would"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "say yes to. She was getting all the jobs"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "that were brand new that, you know, only"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "special people get invited to."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": ">> And then we both get called into an"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "office where the name and the the number"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "on the door is so special that every CIA"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "officer knows. It's like being called to"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "I don't know. It's like being called to"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "the Hollywood sign in in uh Hollywood,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "California. Okay."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": ">> Right. You're like, \"Oh, everybody knows"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "what the Hollywood sign is.\" It's like"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "everybody knows door, you know, 1 2 3 4"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "5."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": ">> Well, we get called to that office. And"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "of course, for my wife, she's like, \"I"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "wonder why I'm being called there.\""}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Like,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": ">> I'm I'm already doing this other"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "important thing. Why would I be called"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "to this completely different important"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "thing? And for me, I'm like, \"This has"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "got to be a mistake.\" Like, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "sitting here picking up dog in the"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "back of, you know, in Africa. Why am I"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "being called to Why am I being called to"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the presidential suite?"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": ">> So, we get called to this office"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "um by our bosses and I'm really like,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "\"This is strange.\" So, I I send my wife"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "a secret message because we have our own"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "secret system at CIA. I send her a"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "message that says, \"You're never going"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "to believe what just happened to me.\""}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "And she's simultaneously sending me a"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "message and she's like, \"The strangest"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "thing just happened to me.\" And we're"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "both like, \"We're getting called to this"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "office at the same time in the same"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "place.\" And that's how it that's how we"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "kind of realized something strange was"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "happening again. And then when we"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "actually get there, it's very similar to"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "what you would expect from any CEO suite"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "or any CEO conference room. It's a very"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "beautiful office, but it's in a skiff."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "So it has a very thick door and thick"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "walls and everything."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> A secure"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> compartmentalized uh secure secure"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "compartmentalized information facility,"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": ">> right? So sound dead and thicken walls."}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": ">> No radio signals in or out. No"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "electrical wires in or out. Everything's"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "kind of self-contained. And we go in"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "there and that's where they explain to"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "us, hey, we have this this new operation"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "that we want to put the two of you on"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "together instead of separate."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> And is that for appearances? Is that"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "because of skill set? Is it it just"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "works as a couple with all of the above?"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": ">> All of the above. Exactly. There aren't"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "many complimentary skill set couples at"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "CIA. Opposites attract everywhere. Sure."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "And CIA actually has quite a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "inter mural dating, but opposites that"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "are also complimentary don't doesn't"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "happen often. Like a tech person might"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "date a map person, but those aren't"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "really complimentary skill sets. And a"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "disguise person might date a"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "paramilitary person, but those aren't"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "complimentary skill sets."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": ">> In the case of my wife and I, I was an"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "operational planner. For all intents and"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "purposes, she was an operational"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "targeter. Two different skill sets that"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "were complimentary. So, was the mole"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "tied specifically to Falcon? And were"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "you chosen because you were outside of"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Falcon and so you could create a"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "different view and maybe put different"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "bait or what was the what was the"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "thinking? Because if they if I if I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "inside the organization and I think I've"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "got a mole, right? Then I don't know"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "what they're listening to. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "who they're getting information from."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "So, I've got to have an outside in."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "That's why if we have theft or in the"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "past when I've had theft or in any way"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "whether it be within our building or out"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "in the franchise network I use a third"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "party because I don't want anyone to"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "know that might be telling them that"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "we're looking. And I think that's the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "main difference between how a uh"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "corporate entity thinks versus how a"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "government agency thinks."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> They do want a third party. They want"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "that outside observer, but they don't"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "want the outside observer to identify"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "the theft and report it. They want the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "outside observer to basically become the"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "bait,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": ">> okay,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": ">> that the threat pursues."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> And that's what CIA was doing with us."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "We it it uh scimitar the mole was"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "reporting directly to Falcon, the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "foreign country."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": ">> And Falcon is a high-risk major"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "geopolitical adversary for the United"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "States. So it was a high-risk highstakes"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "operation."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "But nobody knew who Scimitar was. So"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "everybody who was working the Falcon"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "target was on the suspect list. You"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "couldn't trust anybody. Didn't matter if"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "they had 30 years at CIA or 3 days at"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "CIA. You don't know who the mole is. So"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "you can't trust anybody who's"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "experienced against that ally or against"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "that enemy."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": ">> So they have to pick people who are"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "completely different outside of that"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "fold because those are the only people"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "you can trust. and you still have to"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "pull from within CIA. You can't pull"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "someone from NSA because they don't"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "understand CIA language. They don't"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "understand CIA operations. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "coming from essentially Africa where I"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "was working. My wife's coming from um a"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "part of Asia that I can't disclose. And"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "we are brought together to basically"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "build new new operations, new CI"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "operations against Falcon, a country"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "that we've never traveled to, we've"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "never worked in, we don't speak the"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "language, we don't know the people. But"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "it's like it's almost like calling two"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "uh two"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "local baseball leagues, two amateur"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "leagues, and you you call them to make a"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "team to go against a major league team."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> We know that the odds are against us and"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "we know like this is this doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "any sense, but you don't say no to an"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "opportunity like this unless you want to"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "throw away your career. And my wife's"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "was a career we were not going to throw"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "away. So they're giving us this, hey,"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "you're going to build a case. You're"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "going to build a team. You're going to"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "build a whole new MO. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "send you this place you know nothing"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "about. We're going to give you a blank"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "check to take whatever risks you need to"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "be successful."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "But we have complete deniability of you."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "So if you up, not on us. If you"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "overspend, that's on you. Like all this,"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "it's all risk and no upside,"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "But to say no at CIA, you don't you"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "don't say no."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> Career suicide."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> Career suicide. And I don't care about"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "career suicide. I'm picking up the"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "anyways."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": ">> But I can't do that to my wife."}]

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Foreign!"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "I'd like to start these things up"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "with why it's so difficult or nearly"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "impossible in some cases for um"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "non-human intelligent beings,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "particularly the species that I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "associated with,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "which 95 to 98% of the uh"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "90 95 to 98% of the uh contact that I've"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "had or interaction has been what are"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "commonly referred to as grays. Uh there"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "are two types. Uh one is a worker being"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "and the other is what I call a true"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "alien. True alien. I would say that the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "majority of um"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "abductees experiences have been with"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "what they think are the aliens, which"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "are the little three-foot guys. Those"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "are half biological in my experience and"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "half robotic. Uh they're literally"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "programmed to obey and follow tasks. I"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "don't think they have any they have well"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "in my experience little to no"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "self-awareness of what they are and they"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "just perform that way. And those are the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "ones that uh have the big giant teardrop"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "eyes, the little thin mouths and that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "are very small. Uh in my experience uh"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "particularly which they have been face"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "to face and memory is 95 to 98%"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "um of what a gray is like at least this"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "particular species. 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And"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "they do have a leather-like uh texture"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "to their skin."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "and they pretty much look alike, but"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "when you get pulled on a regular basis,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "you start noticing things that"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "distinguish one from another, which is"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "um sort of like wrinkles."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "So, primarily that's what I'll be"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "talking about this evening is those"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "guys. 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So I'm going to speak"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "about the ways that makes it difficult"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "for them not to uh knock on your door"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "and say, \"Gee, can I come in and have a"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "cup of coffee?\""}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Um for starters um the thought process"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "um the way they can assimilate data"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "process data um is anywhere from 10 to"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "100 times faster than us. So that can be"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "rather intimidating. Um they are um 100%"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "telepathic. I've never heard one speak."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "But clearly when when there's"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "communication there's no uh mistake in"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "it from gee I think I heard a voice in"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "my head or something like that. that"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "it's it's loud and clear. In a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "cases, it sounds like your own voice,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "but it's being manipulated from the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "telepathic communication and it goes"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "back and forth. What makes it very"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "difficult to be around these guys"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "uh is the fact well a number of things"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "that I'm going to get into uh is the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "fact that as as a person"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "um we have two sides to us in a sense."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Um we have the the you that's about you"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "intimately know about. There's things"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "about yourself that you will never share"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "with anybody unless perhaps you meet a"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "significant other or somebody that you"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "can trust and you start opening up to"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "your past or maybe some of the things"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "you've done and have or haven't been"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "forgiven for or whatever makes makes you"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "up. And then there's this face that we"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "have which is pretty normal which that's"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "what the public sees and we don't allow"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "people to penetrate past that and unless"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "we start to trust them and that's the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "facade that we we go around as human"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "beings when we all meet each other this"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "is the way we are until you know"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "inevitably maybe we get closer. When"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "these guys speak or communicate"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "telepathically they bypass that face. So"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "everything is raw everything is rough."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Everything is open and everything is on"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the dissecting table. Anything that"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "you've ever done from a child clearly up"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "to an adult that you may be ashamed of"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "and all the positive things that you've"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "ever done, everything is known. So"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "that's a really uncomfortable feeling."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "So when you're dealing with something"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "that can think 10 to 100 times faster,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "when you're dealing with something that"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "uh you're you immediately yourself is"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "exposed to, it's not a comfortable"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "thing. However,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "uh if the human species is to evolve"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "uh into the cosmic neighborhood, so to"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "speak, or the galactic neighborhood is"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "what I really meant to say, the cool"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "thing about that kind of communication"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "amongst advanced nonhuman beings or"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "cultures, which there are several"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "different species, is the fact that what"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "keeps them from waring, so to speak,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "just a simple thing as that is this"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "ability to know what the other one's"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "thinking at any given time uh is the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "advantage of no surprise attacks. So"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "even if there's agendas that are not uh"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "similar to what whatever one may be"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "opposite of the other um no surprise"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "attack so it keeps them at bay. Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Now you have uh beings that have the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "ability to um screen image meaning that"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "they uh they take the path of least"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "resistance. Um abductions um have um"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "been going on heavily here in the last"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "20 30 years"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "uh on a global basis and there's"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "different things that they do emotional"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "experiments extract semen extractova"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "medical experiments you name it but"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "screen imaging meaning that they have"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "the ability to transmit um an image or"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "an idea in your head and then you"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "believe that's that reality when I mean"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the path of least resistance. When"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "people are pulled, if you're the type"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that may be afraid of u let's say uh"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "demons or demonic things, uh then"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "they'll portray themselves as being"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "something dark or evil in order to get"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the whatever it is they're going to do"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "so you'll cooperate. Fear. 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So I don't really see"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "them with any hands-on projects."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "They have the ability to travel"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "dimensions and use dimensions. Meaning"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "they can u their s their working essence"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "can be 95% in another dimension that"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "occupies the same space at the same time"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "and perhaps maybe only 5% of uh their"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "work their other essence can be in our"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "dimension. So they would be invisible."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "So they have the ability for"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "invisibility. The ability for"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "invisibility that sounds pretty good."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "The ability to be invisible."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "um if uh in some cases I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "this this describes all ghosts and"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "spirits and such but uh they're not"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "perfect and if the technology messes up"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "and then they appear then you may see"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "them as something that looks like a"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "ghost. So whatever it takes the path of"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "least resistance not to be seen but they"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "have that ability. If they need to move"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "physical objects then perhaps for you to"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "travel uh anywhere"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "in the cosmos in the universe from point"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "A to point B with little to no time"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "passing. Now you have beings now can you"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "see why this makes it they're very far"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "removed in a sense but then there's"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "going to be similarities. You have beans"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "now too that fascinatingly enough"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "can um travel time. Time travel um to"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "these guys and is is almost like pushing"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "remote control. It doesn't make any"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "difference to them anymore. It's almost"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "like boring. Um you got beings that have"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "um the ability to live tens of thousands"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "of years in some cases. uh some of those"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "species don't even pass away at all."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "They can walk through walls, so they can"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "manipulate matter. The laws of physics,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "as we understand it, don't apply. But"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "but what maintained my sanity throughout"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "all the the the 19 years of all of this"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "was the fact that I hated their guts"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "and it was pure. Pardon me? Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "I'll get into that in a second. any"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "chance I had to, as I would tell them,"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "squeeze their fat heads off their skinny"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "little necks, I would have done it. And"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "um I was paralyzed the first six, seven"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "years, and I'll get into that in a"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "moment how all this came about or now I"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "can share this stuff with you. But uh"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "what what makes it even more difficult"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "with them is the fact that they radiate"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "an energy"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "that is literally not of this world. So"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "it will make you miserable and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "uncomfortable. your body is not used to"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "sensing these things. Uh meaning that uh"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "if they're 100 or 150 feet away, you'll"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "sense something that makes you feel"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "uncomfortable. Uh if they're maybe, and"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "don't quote me, I always say this, don't"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "quote me on the exact footage, but let's"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "say they're 50 or 60 feet away, your"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "spine will starting to straighten up."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Your breathing will become more rapid."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "uh if they get within 20 or 15 or 20"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "feet from you, then your heart will"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "start racing like crazy. Then you're"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "you're paralyzed. You won't even be able"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "to move. Now, I'm not sure if that's"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "natural or or that's technically"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "enhanced as a defense mechanism. So"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "either way, they possess it. When they"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "and again, we're talking about this"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "particular species of gray. When they're"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "within a few feet of you, all the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "chemicals in your brain just dump into"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "your body."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "adrenaline, fear, love, caring,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "everything that guides our emotions and"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "guides our our senses dumps into your"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "system. And so now you're just totally"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "gone. And then when they're with very"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "close to you, typically you'll black"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "out. So that makes it kind of hard for"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "them to come on over and sit across the"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "coffee table and sip on some coffee."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Now, don't let don't make me let this"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "sound so scary because human beings are"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "resilient. we adapt. Uh it took um many"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "months into the like the first 18 months"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "and inevitably you shake these things"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "off to where you feel these weird"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "sensations and you don't black out but"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "that's what it was like u particularly"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "for me at first. So it makes it kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "hard to interact that way. Now for"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "myself personally I never I never asked"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "for any of this um prior to 1988 uh as"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "far as I was concerned."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "Um, yeah, I thought UFOs were possible"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "and and I figured you'd have to be, you"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "know, an idiot not to think that out of"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "billions of stars and then that many"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "more times three, four, five or 10"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "planets rotating around these stars in"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "the in the cosmos,"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "uh, that there wouldn't have one of"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "these planets or several of them"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "wouldn't house intelligent life. And I"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "always figured, sure, it's possible"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "because there was so many videos and"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "pictures of stuff of UFOs that yeah,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "there are UFOs. But as far as abductions"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "are concerned and as far as uh on a"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "global basis into the millions, no. And"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "particularly myself."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Um also what I'm going to go over is how"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "it started with me and how the first"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "six, seven years were nothing but a pure"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "unadulterated hell with no frame of"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "reference. Uh total trauma. Um then I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "going to share with you how it evolved"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "in the second six to seven years into"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "something that I could understand and"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "then in the last five six seven years uh"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "where it uh actually evolved to where um"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "I see a bigger picture. I see agenda and"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "I and I'm learning. But it took all"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "those years for me to get to that point."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "It evolved to that degree."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Fore!"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Foreign! Foreign!"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Fore!"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Foreign! Foreign!"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "Also, what's um I think it's important"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "that I'm going to share with everybody"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "this evening is a video. And how this"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "video came about was the fact that uh"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "the the abduction that changed my whole"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "view on these guys was a mass abduction"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "where hundreds and hundreds and hundreds"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "and hundreds of people were pulled all"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "at the same time and I saw something"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "that they were doing. During this uh"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "abduction experience, I was um I had"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "more of an intimate interaction with one"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "particular human being, one person. Um,"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "this person, um, his name is Doug"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Rodante. It's okay for me to say his"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "name. Uh, he, uh, when he was pulled,"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "I stayed with this guy for almost two"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "hours or maybe a little more than two"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "hours during this mass abduction"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "experience. It was the first time I was"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "allowed freedom. It was the first time"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "that I wasn't paralyzed. But this person"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "was someone that was close to me during"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "this whole thing. Several months later,"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "um I saw this person here and um and"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "then I'm going to go into that story."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "And this is an individual who um had no"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "real concern about the environment, had"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "no real concern about things of that"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "nature. But this mass abduction, things"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "were planted in our heads, which I was"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "100% conscious of, and I know they do"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "this on a global basis. And I got to"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "watch how that flowered into this"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "individual to be what he is today."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "Um, and after I saw him, um, for the"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "first time, I never let on. I had to"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "bite my tongue, and I'll go into that"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "story. I never let on to I knew who he"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "was, and then later on it all gelled."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Um, but however, for me, I guess I"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "should tell you how it started. Um, in"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "mid 88,"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "um, I was having the same reoccurring"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "dream. Um, I consider myself to be"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "normal, uh, honest, logical,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "straightforward."}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "And this dream that I was having was"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "that something or some things was coming"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "into, uh, my bedroom, escorted me off"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "the bed down the uh, hallway into the"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "guest room. It was always the same"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "thing. Walking me through the guest room"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "window, which was a ground floor window."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Of course, you know, that's got to be a"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "dream. At least in my mind, it was. and"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "into the woods, then back across the uh"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "from the woods back across our lawn"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "through the window and back in bed. And"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "this was happening several times a week,"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "week after week in the first couple of"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "months. And then one particular evening,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "this uh excuse me,"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "one particular evening, this dream"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "became extremely vivid, meaning that I"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "became conscious during the course of"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "it, wide awake as like we're sitting"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "here right now. Uh when we got when they"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "escorted me into the guest bedroom,"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "I was the the the normal part of this"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "dream was to to walk me through the"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "window and I was thinking, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "how are we going to walk through this"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "window?\" We walked through the window."}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "They went out into the woods. I had no"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "memory of what happened and they walked"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "me back the same way. on our lawn at"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "that time, we had thousands of what I"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "call honeysuckle flowers uh that would"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "stick to the bottom of your feet. Uh"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "after that uh experience when I got up"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "in the morning I went into the uh the"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "guest bedroom and what I saw shocked me"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "and I knew something really strange was"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "happening because you could see my"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "footprints in the lawn and embedded in"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "the footprints you could see the heel"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "embedded into the lawn on one side of"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "the window and then on the other side of"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "the window you could see my toes and the"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "ball of my feet embedded into the"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "carpet. However, the honeysuckle flowers"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "were embedded into the carpet also. So,"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "as each footstep went further into the"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "guest bedroom, you could see my feet"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "print feet print feet prints footprints"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "uh with the with the flowers uh stuck in"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "them. And then also you could see tiny"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "little like uh feet which were the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "little worker things with flowers in"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "those. So, that freaked me out. I knew"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "something weird was really going on. I"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "took a vacuum cleaner. I vacuumed"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "everything real good and I told myself"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "if I have that again, I'm going to go"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "out there in that room. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "make sure it's spotless because it's"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "impossible for these leaves or pieces of"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "grass to get inside the room because it"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "not only is it a glass window, but it"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "has screens, it has drapes, it has"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "blinds, and voila, here's all this"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "stuff. Well, it happened again. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "then"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "that was their way. Excuse me."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "that was their way of uh gradually um"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "letting them know that something weird"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "was about to happen. Um the and the next"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "thing that took place was um uh"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "traumatic. Uh I call um before I get"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "into that, I call that method of um"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "transport going the easy way. That's"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "when a craft is on the ground and that's"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "the hard way from point A to point B was"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "what's what was totally gut-wrenching um"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "for me. Um, the first thing you hear,"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "you could be laying in bed or you can be"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "sitting in the living room, whatever the"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "case may be, is you start to hear this"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "whirling, whipping sound inside your"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "head at a low RPM."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "mechanism."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "David,"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "it starts getting louder and louder and"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "faster. the RPM start to increase. The"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "next thing that happens is you feel a"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "sensation in the pit of your stomach and"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "it starts working its way up to your"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "upper torso and when it reaches your"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "heart, your heart starts racing at like"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "a thousand miles an hour. Da da da da."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "So you think like, my god, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "have a heart attack. The the sound gets"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "louder, the RPMs increase, your"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "respiration increases even more, and"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "then the next sensation is an"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "acceleration."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "um only instead of feeling like you're"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "being pulled up, you feel like you're"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "being pulled down. And it's the best way"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "I can describe it would be like uh"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "you're going down a roller coaster only"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "a 100 times faster. Now, you're"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "paralyzed at that point. You can't see."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "You're screaming inside your head"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "because you can't move your mouth. I"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "don't want to die. I don't want to die."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "And then boom, you black out. When you"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "come to or when I became conscious, I"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "was at point B. Now, here's where point"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "B was for this person for six years at"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "least in this room on board this craft"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "was. And I found myself in the same"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "place every time for those first six"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "years sitting on this bench. And in"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "front of this bench was a table. I call"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "it a screen table. And it was artificial"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "intelligence. And I think and now we're"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "talking almost 20 years ago, it was a"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "teaching machine. It read you, it knew"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "you, it got to know you. That was just"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "the beginning of the fun. Uh about five"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "or eight feet in front of that table was"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "a a wall which had had a screen on it. I"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "was paralyzed with the exception of the"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "fact that I could move my head up and I"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "could move my head down to see that"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "screen on the um the screen table and I"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "could move my head up to see anything"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "that was going on on the screen on the"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "wall. and my right hand and arm were uh"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "resting up against the table where I can"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "and wrist where I can move my right"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "forefinger as if you're doing something"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "like an exas sketch when you were a kid"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "and however any mark or stroke I would"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "make would either show up on that screen"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "or would on the screen table or it would"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "show up on that wall. Okay, now I don't"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "know where I am. I don't know why I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "there. I'm almost completely paralyzed."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "And now here's here's their social"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "skills. zero."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "The first thing that comes up was the"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "block letter A. Next to the block letter"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "A on this screen was a um a symbol that"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "they wanted me to trace as an"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "equivalency or uh to that the block"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "letter A. And so the first telepathic"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "message from these guys which was sketch"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "the symbol for the A. And I just went"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "cords like anybody else would. No."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "Why am I here? Why am I this? Screaming,"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "yelling, boom. Vocal cords paralyzed."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "Sketch the symbol. No. Inside my head."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "And the basis of teaching in those early"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "years were on punishment and reward. So"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "when I would refuse to do it, the air"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "pressure and it would go like a thump"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "would increase in the room and it would"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "put pain in my ears and they would go"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "trace the letter and I would go no. Then"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "it would increase in levels until the"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "pain was almost intolerable and I stroke"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "the first or trace the first stroke to"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "the symbol and then all the things about"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "the hard way happened and I was back"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "home."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Forever"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "experiment."}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "Okay, that was my first fun experience"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "with those guys. Now, I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "where I was. I didn't know why I was"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "there. I didn't know what was going on."}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Um, I my wife thought I lost my mind."}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "Uh, when I went to my friends, they"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "said, \"Jim's a pretty normal, honest"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "person, but I think he's lost it.\" At"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "that time, I went to the church. I used"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "to go to church a lot. Uh, when I went"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "to the church with it, they said it was"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "demonic. And then I'd sit there at"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "church and that all the spaces and the"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "seats would be empty next to me. And"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "that's the way I was. And I and I was"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "like telling people, you wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "believe what's going on. and and"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "anyway, my family figured I lost it."}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "Now, this stuff went on for um a period"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "of two to three times a week, every"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "week. Sometimes it would be weeks would"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "be nine or 10 times a month. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "sometimes it would be 15 times a month."}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "And that went on heavy like that the"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "first 18 months. And every time I was"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "pulled, I was sitting in that same"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "stupid bench in that same stupid place,"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "tracing block letters to an to a um a"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "symbolic equivalency. And I thought this"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "thing was an alien alphabet. It went"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "from A to no Q's and no Z's. And then it"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "went to a number system that was based"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "on six. Now, during all of this stuff,"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "I just can't tell you I can tell you how"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "much the loathing, the hate, the focus"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "of anger that I had and all I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "do was kill these guys because it's"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "really started affecting me and my home"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "life. Um fortunately for me at that time"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "in the in the business that I had, I had"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "a partnership J&J Properties. It was in"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "North Carolina. So my partner was taking"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "care of that part of the business and"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "then um I had enough money that to"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "buffer me through these first six seven"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "years because I wasn't even able to do"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "my work or was it wasn't able even to do"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "my business. Um it got to the point"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "where I started losing I lost something"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "like 35 between some 35 38 pounds. Um I"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "wasn't uh it made me so crazy that of"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "course my wife she disappeared after a"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "while. God, imagine that. Um, I uh I"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "wasn't eating. I wasn't sleeping,"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "fingernails were growing, and the best"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "way I can describe myself is what it as"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "it got into was the I looked like um"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "Howard Hughes in his last days. Okay."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "So during the course of all of this they"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "extracted semen. During the course of"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "all this they did emotional experiments."}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "During the course of this they would do"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "mental experiments. And all of this mess"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "was based on punishment and reward. But"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "when it came to the reward when they"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "would offer a reward after a good"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "session I always refused the rewards"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "because again all I wanted to do was"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "kill these guys."}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "They're cold. They're non-emotional. and"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "what was going on uh made no sense and"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "there was no rhyme or reason to it. I uh"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "inevitably got to the point where I"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "decided that I was going to kill an"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "alien. There's no doubt about it. I was"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "going to kill these guys. So, what I"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "didn't know was happening was a couple"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "of things at that time. For starters,"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "that uh conversion of converting block"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "letters into um"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "an an alien symbolic equivalency turned"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "out to be one of the most fascinating"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "things that one could ever experience"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "because they went through this"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "meticulous"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "detail on going through the motion. The"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "um you sounded out the direction and the"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "motion was important. And after this"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "alphabet thing was in one session after"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "I had gotten the A's all the way through"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "the no Q's and Z's"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "uh they presented a um 50 pages of text"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "on this screen and it was a uh story"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "about a friend of mine and his name was"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "Jerry and it was written where I could"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "read it. So I started as I could read"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "one page in regular writing is where"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "Jerry was born and how he was raised and"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "his likes and his dislikes and as a"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "toddler growing into puberty and it went"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "page after page after page. And then"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "when it came to the point of the present"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "the story kept reading as if into the"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "future. And so at the end of those 50"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "pages I said why are you doing this?"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "What is your point with this? I made up"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "cuss words for these guys. Well, then"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "after I said that, they took uh on that"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "screen and put about a paragraph, less"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "than a half a page of that symbolic"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "stuff that I they had converted and I"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "could read it real fast and I got the"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "whole story within a matter of a minute."}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "And I went, \"Wow.\""}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "Okay, now this took years to even get to"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "the point as to why they were pulling"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "this. Now, this got even better. They"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "then came out with something that looked"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "like a u the size of a 50 cent piece"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "coin and then it was like a"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "shortorthhand version of these symbols"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "and they flash the coin. It wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "coin but it was round like that with the"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "symbols in it. You look at it and then"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "you got the whole story in a split"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "second and I always like to describe it"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "this way. Excuse me. I always like to"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "describe it this way which is uh what's"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "the latest and greatest movie going on"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "right now? Just name a movie. So let's"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "say you've never seen the movie. Now you"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "can if you've seen the movie"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "Transformers, if you've seen Old Yeller,"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "if you've seen Independence Day, in a"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "matter of a few seconds, you can kind of"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "see that movie in your head. That's the"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "way once the data is there. So they can"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "present something like that much data on"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "one coin like Transformers and"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "immediately you would know the movie."}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "You would know the emotions of it. You"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "know, you would know who the actors are,"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "the theme from the beginning to the end."}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "So that's what that stuff was leading up"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "to."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "Fore"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "speech."}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "So there was a couple of things that led"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "to uh an experience that uh oh I should"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "mention this too. what I what was going"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "on in those days. Um I also figured in"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "those early months and particularly in"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "within those first 18 months as being"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "the biggest hell of the of the six years"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "of me trying to avoid these guys or to"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "get away from these beings. Uh for"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "example, I would go uh to major cities"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "and I would u go downtown and I would"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "check out a hotel that was 15 20 stories"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "and I'd get in the middle of it thinking"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "they couldn't pull me. They would pull"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "me. Um, I would drive hundreds and"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "hundreds and hundreds of miles from"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "state to state to state to try and get"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "away from these guys. They would pull"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "me. So, there was really no escaping to"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "inevitably uh it came to the point where"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "I abandoned my home in Texas and I went"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "down to um to Fort Myers Beach, Florida,"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "which was a sterile island where I grew"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "up to see if I can get away from them"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "that way. And of course, no, they still"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "pulled me. So, I was doing everything I"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "could to get away. and in my heart, mind"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "and soul, I all I ever wanted to do was"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "kill them. Okay. So, this alphabet"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "developed into something interesting"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "because I also know that it's um the the"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "basic um"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "um foundation for also telepathic"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "communication. So, there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "fascinating things about that alphabet"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "that was forced learned into me. Uh"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "still seeing no real rhyme or reason, I"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "felt a little better about understanding"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "something at that point, but I still"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "wanted to get rid of these guys. So"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "certain events led to my new found"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "freedom with them which took about six"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "years uh between six and seven years"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "which was two um uh stories that I'm"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "going to share with you that took place"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "that led to that. One was uh there they"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "pulled me. I was in the same stupid"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "place uh sitting in the same stupid"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "bench and but this time there was on the"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "table, the screen table, there was an"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "ant at least an inch or maybe an inch"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "and a half long, a rather large ant."}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "clearly you could see it and you could"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "see that they created some kind of field"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "like a circle where the ant was trying"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "to walk but like he would bump into"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "something but it was invisible as if"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "somebody stuck a jar on top of it."}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "And then the uh instructions were to"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "sketch the symbol for kill and the ant"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "would die which was something like that"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "which was that and so I said no I'm not"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "killing nothing for you and then again"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "sketched the symbol for kill. I said no."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "The air pressure increased in the room,"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "the pain in my ears, and they kept going"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "level after level after level, and I I"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "was taking more pain than I ever did,"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "and I just went, \"No, I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "do it.\" And then um"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "they projected a hologram of my brother"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "and it looked like he was in a hospital"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "in the bed clutching his heart as if he"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "was having some kind of a heart attack."}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "So now the message was if you don't"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "sketch this harm is going to come to"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "your family. So uh I then didn't want"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "that to happen. So I sketched the symbol"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "for kill. The ant balled up and died."}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "And then I weep and I'm going why are"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "you guys doing this to me? What is the"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "point behind all of this?"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "What I didn't realize was they were"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "about to turn me loose and and they were"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "using different methods to see how far I"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "would be pushed if I would actually kill"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "these guys. In other words, if I was"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "free, would I kill them and tear up the"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "ship? Bottom line. But again, they"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "didn't give me any warning. After that"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "event, um that's when I was dead locked"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "to kill one. And I uh at during the"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "course of all of this, these things"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "would come into my home, walk around the"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "house as as if to observe the laboratory"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "rats um natural environment. So you can"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "imagine yourself sitting in the sofa"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "here. These things come through the"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "wall. They're walking around. They do"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "whatever they do while all this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "going on on board. So, I went um to um"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "to the gun shop and I bought a 357"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "Magnum."}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "And now imagine a guy that looks like"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "the last days of Howard Hughes going"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "into a gun shop buying a 357 Magnum. I"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "shouldn't be any gun laws. I'm okay. All"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "right. And I So, so I buy this pistol"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "and then I got I stop at the liquor"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "store and I bought a um a fifth of vodka"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "and because I'm going to kill one of"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "these guys, right? So, I got to drink my"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "courage. So, I go back to my place and"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "I'm sitting on the easy chair and I've"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "got the the the gun in one hand and I"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "got the vodka in the other and I'm just"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "drinking the vodka. And that was an"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "evening where they had decided to do a"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "home visit. And I could hear uh the"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "noise on the roof and in the attic. So,"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "I I I knew that that would start that."}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "and two of them came through"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "and um we're walking around in the house"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "and one walked in front of me as I'm"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "sitting on the easy chair. He faced me"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "and he turned his back and he started"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "fumbling with the television set. So, I"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "took the pistol and I cocked it right to"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "the back of his head and I well I took a"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "sip of the vodka again and I took the"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "pistol and I cocked it right to the back"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "of his head and I I said and I I again I"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "would yell lots of neat things out at"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "these guys. I said, \"You come a"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "godzillion miles. You you're so smart"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "with all this tech. You think you're so"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "smart with your technology and you're so"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "stupid you can't even turn on a TV and"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "I'm going to kill you.\" And I pointed"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "that pistol and I could not pull the"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "trigger."}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "I could not make myself do it. I put the"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "gun down and he turned around and"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "telepathically said, \"We know you're not"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "a killer.\""}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "And so now here I go balling and crying"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "again. Here's his grown man, you know,"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "like what's wrong with me? Why don't I"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "kill one of these guys?"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "So uh"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "then uh there was something that led see"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "what this led up to was um an experience"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "which turned my whole the whole"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "situation around with interaction with"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "these things and I started to see"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "something. Now there was another thing"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "that led up to that point and then I'll"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "get into that story which was things"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "started changing when I would get"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "abducted. Now you must know that during"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "every um um abduction we have to extract"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "semen. Okay, that's that's we have to do"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "that. That's that's a must. Um so"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "however"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "uh on one particular occasion"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "I was uh on a gurnie"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "and what they would do to screen image"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "uh that scenario would be to um but I"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "was laying on the gurnie but I had some"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "ability to move which was rather rare"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "and what they do would do as a screen"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "image to make you comfortable when they"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "would do that procedure. And in this"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "case I felt like I was laying on a bed."}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "I was leaning up on like one of those"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "inatics, I guess they call them,"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "whatever they're called, craftatics,"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "whatever you're not dubbing the name for"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "a company, but you would be like at a 45"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "degree angle and then in in the uh in in"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "into the room come two very attractive"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "women. Gee, they don't do screaming"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "imaging because these these girls looked"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "exactly like what I would think would be"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "perfect or anybody else would be. So,"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "they here they come walking into the"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "room and uh I'm I'm laying on this"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "gurnie and one of them starts playing"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "with my hair and and the other one says,"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "\"Oh, gee, my isn't he handsome?\" Well, I"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "knew that was a lie. And I shook off"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "that screen image and when I shook it"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "off, the women went blink blink,"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "disappeared. And here I was on this"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "metal gurnie with there was a worker"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "bean on my right, there was a worker"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "bean on my left, there was a gray which"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "had this apparatus on my groin. And I"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "responded by"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "Sex only contact."}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "like a kneejerk and I just shoved him"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "with my foot and I kicked him and I"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "kicked him back and he fell back and I"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "said, \"Oh my god, what's he going to do"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "now?\" He gets up and he comes really"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "fast right up to my face, just like an"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "inch to my face. And I'll never forget"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "I'll never forget those eyes. And I'll"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "never forget that face being that close."}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "He transmitted a hundred thoughts"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "approximately and a 100 emotions in a"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "second. If I can slow them down, they"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "went just like this. Why did you kick"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "me? You know, you shouldn't kick me."}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "It's bad to kick me. I could hurt you. I"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "can do a lot of harm to you. you"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "shouldn't kick me. And so, and you get"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "all the emotions of each one of those"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "things. Only he did it within a second"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "and it just went and I couldn't handle"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "all of that and I just passed out."}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "Okay. So, now I'm getting a little"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "mobility on board and what's the first"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "thing I do? I kick him. Okay. Now, I get"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "another abduction where um"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "this one was extremely unusual. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "all this is in that scenario towards the"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "end."}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "It's like it's not like when you're on"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "an aircraft. Um the air is fresh when"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "you first get pulled in the room and"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "then they'll let it stay, I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "20, 30, 40 minutes until it gets warm,"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "moist, and hard to breathe and then"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "fresh air will come in. So like every 20"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "to 40 minutes like that, you get a blast"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "of fresh air. So it's not constantly"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "circulating. But anyway, I'm in this"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "crummy room and I'm leaning there and"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "I'm thinking, well, okay, what am I"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "supposed to do? I can move around."}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "Should I stay? Should I walk? Should I"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "check things out? So, I chose to walk"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "towards the corridor that they always"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "come in. And I walked slowly to the"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "corridor. And when I got there, I looked"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "to my right, which was another wall. And"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "I looked to my left. And then the"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "corridor was thin and narrow. And it"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "went down, I guess, 20, 25 ft. And then"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "I took my breath and I made a left. And"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "I walked down the corridor. And then I"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "saw an opening to the right. So there's"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "no doors, just openings. And so when I"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "got to that opening and I looked inside,"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "there were rows of gurnies with these uh"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "beans on them. I don't know if they were"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "robotic beans. I don't know what they"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "were. They just scared the the doodoo"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "out of me because they were laying on"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "their back. They had sheets, something"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "that looked like sheets on them and as"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "if they were turned off and they were"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "just staring into the ceiling like this."}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "So I immediately screamed and yelled"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "out, \"Oh my god, they're dead. They're"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "dead. They're dead. Ah, panic. They're"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "dead."}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "what I forgot to mention last night,"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "which was an interesting aspect of this,"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "remember me saying earlier that you can"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "sense the uh their presence because they"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "radiate this energy. Also, um I should"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "mention which is pretty cool is that"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "whatever rank"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "if there a sense of rank and file so to"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "speak in in grades and also a sense of u"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "whether you're a manager or whether"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "you're a president so to speak your your"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "significance is you sense that energy as"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "they get closer and it's more powerful."}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "So instead of having a name you can"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "sense the essence of this energy that"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "makes you miserable to know how much one"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "may be a supervisory being. So, a strong"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "one came from behind because I can sense"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "him coming and I'm screaming and"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "yelling, \"They're dead. They're dead.\""}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "And I can feel him come over or the"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "energy come over to the back of my head."}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "And all of a sudden, it's a screen"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "image. And now here's instead of these"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "beings staring into the ceiling, it was"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "all girls with blonde hair and red"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "lipstick."}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "And all of them at the same time said,"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "\"We're not dead.\" All right. In my mind,"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "and I blacked out. Okay. So, now I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "thinking So, now I'm have I'm starting"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "to have these sensations of a"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "turnaround. I'm start I saw something"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "with this alphabet. You know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "getting a little movement, but I blew"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "it. The first time they let me have"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "movement, I kick one. The first time"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "they show me their handiwork, which"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "they're proud of, I panic. So, now I'm"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "thinking that um"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "are they going to abduct me anymore? Did"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "I fail? And I always forget this. I did"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "this last night. What's not the Helzinki"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "syndrome? What's that thing called? when"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "you're um Stockholm. I don't know why"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "that doesn't sink. Maybe they want me to"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "have that one. I don't know. But it's"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "like the Stockholm thing, like you're a"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "trustee or something. So, I'm starting"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "to see movement and stuff like that. I"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "should mention before these last two"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "events that I did wake up one morning"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "and and I looked at myself in the mirror"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "like that Howard Hughes guy. And I"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "decided at u at that point that there"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "was nothing I can do. Look what you're"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "doing to yourself, Jim. You can't even"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "wear your clothes anymore. you look like"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "hell. And I sha I bathed and I shaved"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "and I started eating again. So I decided"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "there was nothing I could do about this."}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "And even before my newfound freedom with"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "these guys, I got myself back in shape"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "again. Figured that was nothing I can do"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "and that's it. And I certainly didn't"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "try to kill them. Didn't do any of that."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "So anyhow, I thought for weeks, weeks"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "went by and it was a long extended"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "period of time. It went to a month and"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "then another month went by. I'm"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "thinking, \"My god, after all of these"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "years of this junk, they're not going to"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "come back because I blew it.\" And that's"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "what led to probably the most um one of"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "the most astounding um one of the most"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "astounding and notable abduction"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "experiences where I started to see a a"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "pretty big picture."}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "I got pulled"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "and I found myself um in a clearing"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "uh in the woods. I would say the"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "clearing was about um a hundred yards,"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "like the size of a football field. I was"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "standing up and below me was and I had"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "free and total movement. Uh below me was"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "a um about 12 or 15 people just sprawled"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "all over the ground. Um they were in"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "their night clothes or nude. So you"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "could see that they were pulled. I use"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "the term pulled in instead of abducted a"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "lot. So meaning taking you from point A"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "to point B. You could see they were"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "pulled from um their homes and or in"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "their bedrooms. Uh there was a guy"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "standing up to my right who had a"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "movement. And this is the guy I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "talking about, which we're going to see"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "in the video. His name is Doug. Um, he"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "was um fully dressed and he and he was"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "just going, \"I was driving in my car. I"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "was driving in my car.\" So, all he knew"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "is that he was driving his car. He was"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "there and these people that were on the"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "ground were mostly paralyzed. And there"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "was a a blondhaired woman sitting in"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "like the the the fetal position rocking"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "back and forth in in a panic state. so"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "she could partially move. To the left of"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "her uh that group was another pile of"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "people, about uh 12 or 15 of them. And"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "then to the left of that pile was"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "another pile of people just sprawl out"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "on the ground. So here's three piles of"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "people. And and in each pile was a gray."}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "And I'm standing there with full"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "movement. It was an overcast night. I'm"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "looking around. I could see that the"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "pine trees were similar to the pine"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "trees that we have in central sort of"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "central south south central Florida"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "and the telepathic message comes to me"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "which is calm them."}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "So now I'm thinking oh my god I got free"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "mobility here. What is this? I got a job"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "And uh again it's that Stockholm thing"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "where you don't want to be sitting at"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "that stupid bench being going through"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "that drill."}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "So, I went over to the guy and I said,"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "\"Hey, man. Look, you're going to be"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "okay. I know you're nauseous. I know"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "you're sick.\" I said, \"U, this sensation"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "will pass. You'll be fine.\" Because he's"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "the one that was saying, \"I'll drive my"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "car. I'll drive my car.\" He was standing"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "next to me and I'm looking at this guy's"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "face and I'm I'm getting every detail of"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "this person. Then I go over to the girl"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "that was on the ground and I put my hand"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "on her shoulder and I tell her, I say,"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "\"Uh, you're going to be fine. They're"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "going to take you on board this craft."}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "They're going to put you in this room."}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "They're going to teach you this"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "alphabet, you know? And I start going"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "into the hell, right? And so then this"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "things I shouldn't be saying. And it"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "wasn't making her feel better. And this"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "u"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "this telepathic voice again from from"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "the gray says, \"Uh, you're telling her"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "too much. Just calm her.\" And so I said,"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "\"Oh, you're going to be fine. These"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "these feelings pass and all of that.\""}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "Then um I started hearing moaning and"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "groaning from these people that were on"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "the ground as if they knew something was"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "going to happen. And to my left in the"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "horizon were three balls of light."}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "Um and and I always describe them the"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "same way. Anytime I lecture or talk"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "about it, it's the same thing. They"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "looked like um uh those million candle"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "lights that you do when you advertise a"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "car lot or you know a new shopping"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "center or something like that because it"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "was an overcast evening. Three balls of"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "light and out of nowhere one of them"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "just went across the sky right on top of"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "our pile of people above the clouds. The"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "second one went over it fast from the"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "horizon over the second group of pe pile"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "of people and the third one hung over"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "the uh third pile of people. the one"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "that uh I was where I was standing. I"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "was looking up because I could see the"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "glow of the light, but I couldn't make"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "out what it was. And then it started"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "descending from the clouds. And I saw"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "what I thought and felt was the most"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "majestic,"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "spectacular,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "phenomenal sight of my life. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "had my heart beating like u with with"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "excitement. Uh it didn't look like I"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "thought a UFO should look like. I"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "figured those things would be more"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "aerodynamic and you know and it it"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "looked kind of like unerodynamic but"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "nonetheless it was spherical. It did"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "have a dome on the top but the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "it was like eggshelled"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "and then I could see windows"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "around the um that eggshell part and I"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "can see the silhouette of beans"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "scurrying around. Then this bright"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "bright white light emanated from that"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "eggshell looking thing over our group of"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "people and myself with a hue of blue and"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "it was just simply beautiful. So I"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "started walking forward and I started"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "I've had my hands up in the air and I"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "was going it's beautiful it's beautiful"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "and then another one came over the one"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "that was over the second group descended"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "from the clouds and that light came down"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "and then the third one did the same"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "thing. So when I was standing there and"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "seeing these three things and I was so"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "taken by it, I was just yelling out,"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "\"They're beautiful. They're beautiful.\""}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "And then I it was just simply beautiful."}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "So I started walking forward and I"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "started I had my hands up in the air and"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "I was going, \"It's beautiful. It's"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "beautiful.\""}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "And then another one came over, the one"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "that was over the second group descended"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "from the clouds and that light came"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "down. And then the third one did the"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "same thing. So when I was standing there"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "and seeing these three things and I was"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "so taken by it, I was just yelling out,"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "\"They're beautiful. They're beautiful.\""}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "And then I did something occurred to my"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "mind to do the little symbol thing that"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "I learned a symbol for high. I'm so, you"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "know, with it. So I do a a thing for"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "high. And as soon as I did that,"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "instantly, which was like this, I"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "blacked out."}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "When I came to,"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "I found myself in this corridor"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "with all these people that were all"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "sprawled on the ground. They were all"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "standing up and they looked like"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "zombies."}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "And you could tell they were paralyzed,"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "but they could move. And they were"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "totally unaware of that they were there."}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "They were just staring out. And then the"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "telepathic message was, um, lead them."}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "And I thought to myself, and people have"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "heard me say this, what? Lead them to"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "slaughter? What? What do you want me to"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "do? And so, but I knew inherently it"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "wasn't that. So, I started walking"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "forward"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "pretty pretty good corridor. And as I"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "took a step, they took steps. If I"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "stopped, they stopped. When I got now, I"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "got a job. Now, remember, this is a big"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "deal to me. So now this thing opens up"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "to this huge room that looked like a"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "gymnasium."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "Now what was fascinating about that"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "thing was the fact that it was scurrying"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "with activity. I could see military"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "individuals."}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "I could see other human beings and grays"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "all across the back of this gymnasium"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "thing working something. So now I'm"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "seeing humans. Now I'm seeing military"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "personnel. Now I'm seeing grays"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "and rows and rows and rows and rows of"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "monitors."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "also"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "techn"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "Mentally."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "Fore"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "Then the the next telepathic command was"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "seat them."}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "So now this guy I should mention which I"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "forgot to mention earlier, his name is"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "Doug. Uh he was with me in the corridor"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "and his hand was resting on top of my"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "hand. So for whatever reason I had a lot"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "of contact with this individual even to"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "the point where his hand was resting on"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "it. So when I was leading the others"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "into that into the other room he was"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "holding on to the top of my hand. So"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "naturally he's standing next to me. So,"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "I walked him down one of those aisles"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "where these monitors were. And I got to"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "the end and I sat him in something akin"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "to the bench that I was, but it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "the same setup before this monitor. And"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "I started walking back. And when I got"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "about halfway through this aisle,"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "curiosity got the best of me. So, I"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "started looking around. I wanted to see"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "more. I saw more human beings. And it"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "was just phenomenal to me to go from six"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "years of that hell to seeing this going"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "on, still not knowing what's going about"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "to take place. And then as I was"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "standing there, the telepathic voice"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "went, \"No.\""}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "One-word commands like you do your your"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "dog or something like that. No. In other"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "words, don't look around. And I kept"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "looking around. I couldn't help myself."}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "And thoughts were going through my mind."}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "Maybe I'll blow it. Maybe they won't let"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "me do this no more. I wanted to see"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "this. I wanted to see that. No. So after"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "the second no, boom, I blacked out."}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "Um when I regained consciousness, I was"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "sitting um in front of this um my"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "monitor and there were nothing but"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "people sitting in front of monitors."}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "Also,"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "they either had a line that was hooked"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "into their"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "uh forearms, the back of their forearms"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "or the bottom of their forearms, which I"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "think can explain and sense what scoop"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "marks are put in there. And then some of"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "them had lines in the their calves,"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "the back behind your shin. Yeah, your"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "calf. And what I learned that to be,"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "which I'm pretty certain what that was"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "about, was we were all about to get an"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "environmental lesson in this mass"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "abduction, which has been going on on a"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "global basis. Uh, and also different"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "things that you can do, which I'm going"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "to get into that in a second. What these"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "tubes were that were stuck in us, I"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "believe, were something to"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "heighten the emotions to an extreme,"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "meaning that all these monitors all lit"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "up at the same time. And you could tell,"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "and I always describe it this way, like"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "at a television shop when you see um"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "like 50 TVs and they all go on at the"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "same time, that glow in the room, all of"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "that's the same. So all these monitors"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "light up at the same time and and and"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "there's a scene appears."}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "The first scene that shows up was an"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "Earth's they're all Earth scenes was was"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "the ocean. It was a beautiful, drop"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "deadad gorgeous turquoise blue,"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "fresh, teeming with fish, and you could"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "see the sky was crystal clear. And with"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "whatever they had hooked into us, and"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "and the way the colors were coming"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "through on this site, you just went, \"Oh"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "my god.\" It just took your breath away."}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "You're going, \"It's beautiful. It's it's"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "beautiful.\" It just overwhelmed you with"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "the the pristine beauty of the planet."}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "And you knew when you were watching that"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "and all of us were watching that that"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "this was a time period before we kind of"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "messed things up environmentally."}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "Then and then there was a hum like"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "and then three seconds would go by then"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "you'd hear the hum again."}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "And then another scene would appear and"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "that scene was like a mountain scene and"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "it had snow on top of the mountains and"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "beautiful healthy trees and again the"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "sky was crystal clear and you're just"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "going God so gorgeous. It's gorgeous. It"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "just you just got into it. And then it"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "was one beautiful earth scene after the"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "other after the other after the other."}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "And then they slowly started getting"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "ugly"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "where the um the beautiful"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "ocean was a a mousy nasty brown. The"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "fish were bloated and floating in the"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "water. Uh the air was or the sky was a"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "nasty color. And you were just going,"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "\"Oh god, no. I don't want to see that."}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "And each scene got uglier and uglier."}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "And then this the telepathic voice in"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "everybody's head all at the same time as"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "these scenes were getting uglier were"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "you're killing your planet. Your planet"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "is dying. You're killing your planet."}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "Your planet is dying. So they let us see"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "all this wondrous beauty of what it was"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "like and then did a reverse emotional"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "thing with whatever was hooked up us."}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "And you're just like, \"Oh my god, I"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "can't take this."}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "and I didn't want to take it. So, I saw"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "on the bottom left hand side of my"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "monitor symbols that were part of a"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "filing system for these scenes. So, I I"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "didn't want to look at that. So, I kept"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "looking at those to see if I can"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "decipher it. And then the word the sound"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "no came into my head. And on my screen"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "was an N and a no. It wasn't even the"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "the um the alien symbolic form of no."}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "No. And then I kept looking at it. No."}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "And it kept appearing and I blacked out."}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "So anyway, when I came to now, this is"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "now this is like 12 years ago. So these"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "things have really evolved in some"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "pretty neat stuff. But this is where it"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "went from six years of hell to something"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "that started making sense. Um when I"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "came to"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "I found myself in a uh or regained"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "consciousness. Uh, I I found myself in"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "something akin to a gymnasium"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "where all these people that were"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "sprawled on the ground who were in this"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "room with the uh the environmental thing"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "were all nude. Their clothes were"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "sprawled all over the place. And here's"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "this guy again and he's going, \"Oh god,"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "my arm. My arm.\" Where it was bothering"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "him that he had this hole in his arm,"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "like what would be referred to as a"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "scoop mark, I guess you'd say. Other"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "people were grabbing their casts and"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "going, \"Oh, my leg and um and and it"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "smelled in there and it smelled just"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "like a stinky locker room.\" So, I could"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "tell that they used this thing over and"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "over and over and over and didn't clean"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "it. Okay. Clothes were sprawled all over"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "the place. So, nothing was like neatly"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "stacked for whatever little clothes that"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "they had uh when they when they were"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "picked up. And then the uh the command"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "was calm them again. So, I went up to"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "this guy again. And I said, \"Hey, look,"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "don't worry about that cut on your arm."}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "These things go away fast. They heal"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "quick and you know, it'll just be like a"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "little sore when you get home.\" And I"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "was saying this to this girl. And then"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "kind of a funny thing happened, which"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "was um everybody got this at the same"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "time. Nobody leaves"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "until you find your exact clothes. And"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "then you never seen people who were"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "moaning and groaning and jump up real"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "fast, scurrying all over the place"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "finding this stuff. Now dur during"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "during abduction scenarios"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "almost everybody will get the memory"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "taken away from them. So even though"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "they're behaving kind of normally and"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "reacting to things when they get back"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "they they take it away. 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Foreign!"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "James.chech."}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "for"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "support."}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "Fore!"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "Foreign! Foreign!"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "Forech."}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:34", "text": "Fore!"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "Foreign! Foreign!"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "Balcon."}]

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It's the reason"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "why these ETs have such concern uh since"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "the 40s when we started detonating"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "hydrogen bombs, atomic bombs, uh which"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "tears the fabric of the cosmos,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "sends out electromagnetic pulses that"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "are beyond the speed of light, disrupts"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "interstellar communication and travel."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "That's why after the atomic bomb, that's"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "why all these uh UFO events started"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "happening around all our uh uh nuclear"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "facilities. And the Roswell event,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "people forget the Roswell base, the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Roswell Army Air Base was the only place"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "on Earth in 1947 that had operational"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "atomic bombs. It wasn't by some accident"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that that happened. They were they were"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "down by electromagnetic directional"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "energy weapons, primitive ones for 1947"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "compared to what we have now. But"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "that was not a coincidence. And"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "similarly all through u history since"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the 40s to now, not only here but the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Soviet Union, Russia, China, France,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "England, uh nuclear armed ships on the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "ocean. Uh, in fact, I just heard from a"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Navy guy who was on a nuclear armed uh"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "ship that that had a ET visitation"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "because of their concern about these"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "weapons. Now, of course, right,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> the the the spin misters in the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "intelligence community and and the UFO"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "community have spun that as an invasion"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "from the aliens and a threat to our"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "national security. That's not true. I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "mean, obviously, if they wanted to turn"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "all those systems off, they'd turn them"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "off tomorrow. Uh it's because they're"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "concerned about us being out of control"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "and violent to the point that we could"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "store could destroy Earth, but also we"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "could be we are a threat to other worlds"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "out there at this point with the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "technologies we have that are beyond the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "speed of light. You know, as Ben Rich"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "who is the head of the Lockheed"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Skunkwork said, we already have the"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "means to take ET home, quote unquote."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "He said that. So, and he knew knew what"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "he was talking about. trillions of"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "dollars in black beyond black budget"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "funding and some of the brightest minds"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "in the world that they recruit out of"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "high school and college working on these"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "systems,"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> You you have some serious payoffs."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Unfortunately, they're in the hands of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "the worst criminal enterprise the earth"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "has ever seen and those are the folks"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "keeping this secret. um which means even"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "more that we so let me frame this"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "another way about what we're doing out"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "in Arizona September 16th 18th"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "17th 18"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "there has to be another uh"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "counterveailing force that's positive"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> yes"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> another type of energy coming from"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "humans besides all this fear-mongering"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and saber rattling and uh taking"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "everything as a paranoid military"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "threat. And these civilizations have"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "been waiting I I actually say they've"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "been knocking on our front door, back"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "door, basement door for, you know, 80"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "years, you know, since the 40s"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "uh waiting for humans to answer"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "properly."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "But the UN isn't doing this. The foreign"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "ministries aren't. The State Department"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "isn't. So that's why a private group,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "a public group that but but private in"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the sense it's not part of any"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "government is so important a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "non-governmental organization which is"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "what we are because that is exactly how"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "change happens in the world and by doing"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "it when you understand the multiplier"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "effect of a group of people in"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "meditation and coherence."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "I know that last time we did this in"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Arizona in April at the Wikopa uh Native"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "uh American facility, there was those"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "meditations in the evening. There was"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "such coherence and silence and you could"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "everyone could feel the effect that was"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "having on not only that where we were"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "but beyond because remember the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "conscious field isn't limited by space"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "and time. It affects everything. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "the power of non-locality as it's called"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "or entanglement. And so, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "understanding those principles, which"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "we'll go into a great deal over the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "course of the weekend, uh, and then"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "practicing them, that's what we want"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "people to leave with that experience."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "That's going to be picked up by these"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "civilizations from other star systems,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> Because their technologies and their"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "awareness"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "are not looking through the web"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "telescope. I mean there their"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "technologies are beyond the speed of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "light beyond u just 3D dimension right"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> three dimensions and so you know that's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "going to be sensed and known and it"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "actually resonates and it actually then"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "attracts these civilizations to interact"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "with a group that's peaceful coherent"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "enlightened um and are safe because a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "group like that is not giving off the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "energy of fear and violence"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> No, they're giving off the intention of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "friendly uh peaceful contact."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> This is why when people say, \"Oh, you're"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "going to do a skywatch.\" I go, \"No, no,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "no, no. We're not. This is way beyond"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "going out and just looking at the sky."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "This is actively becoming part of the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "cosmic mind and then doing it specific.\""}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "And of course, what I recommend also to"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "people listening is to get the C5"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "contact app. It's actually right now"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "number four in the world on educational"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "apps on the uh iTunes store app store."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Um and because that has an entire"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "training program. So if you go through"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "that before you come in September"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "um then you're going to be much more"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "prepared and more powerful. You will be"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "a more powerful ambassador. We call that"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "whole program ambassadors to the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "universe. That we're citizen ambassadors"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "from Earth. And this is what I like"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "training people to think of themselves"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "this way as the sort of leazison and"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "emissaries from the earth in peace to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "these other civilizations all of them."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "And that has a very powerful effect um"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "because honestly until we founded the C5"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "contact movement in 1990 nobody was"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "doing that on a global scale. So I think"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "it's really important that the ET see"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "humans"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "finally after all these years doing"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "something meaningful and enlightened. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> now now switching switching you know a"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "little bit to another issue here. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "I've been spending every uh every week"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "I've been going into Washington DC and"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "and having taking meetings and uh I have"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "some very important news. Um there are"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "uh both a Senate and a House bill that"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "will be part of the Defense"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Authorization Act uh that goes through"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "this fall that provides explicit"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "specific"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "whistleblower and a protection and"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "release or a vehicle for uh witnesses"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "who in the military or contracting world"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "or intelligence world who've been"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "involved in these covert uh UFO pro"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "programs to legally share their"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Um now we sent out something about that"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "and as a result a very senior Air Force"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "officer now retired contacted me who has"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "very indepth knowledge and involvement"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "with this and he said he's been watching"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "what we've been doing with the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "disclosure project for 20 years and has"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "kept his powder dry until we were able"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "to get this moved through and that's"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "going to go through in another month or"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "two, a couple months. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "extremely good news, but it's important"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "that all of us share this YouTube a link"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "because you never know who's out there"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "who's been following this waiting for"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "this moment,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> No, remember the presidents and the CI"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "directors and the these sort of people"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "I've briefed in the past didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "go this far. The folks who are running"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the investigation inside the government"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "now do and they are going this far. So"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "this is a gamecher in 32 years of doing"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "this as the founder of the global"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "disclosure project movement. I've never"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "seen anything like this in terms of its"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "potential."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> This is really"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> there's a there's a doors opened and we"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "better move through that door because it"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "could slam shut again. Um so I encourage"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "people to share this information with"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "everyone they know. You never know who"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "is in your network of friends, family,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "uh work associates who are in fact um"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "people who have had some involvement"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "with this issue who have been sitting on"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "the fence or waiting for a safe vehicle,"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "a safe way to move their their knowledge"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "forward and to end the criminal programs"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "keeping this secret. By the way, 99% of"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "everyone involved in those projects"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "don't know that they're being run"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "illegally."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> They don't?"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> No, they have no idea. Only the very top"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "echelon."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "So, let me explain something to folks."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Most people are sort of cogs in a very"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "big machine in these beyond black"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "unagnowledged special access projects"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "most of them don't know what I learned"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "in 1993 when I briefed the director of"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the CIA"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> and that is that beginning in 1956 or so"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "the US the constitutional government of"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "the United States was decapitated."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "president, senior folks were actually"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "being deceived and moved out of an"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "organization"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "that arrogated to itself the right to"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "work on this issue but not inform the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "constitutional leaders in the White"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "House or the Congress. So those projects"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "went completely rogue let's say in the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "late 50s. This is why Eisenhower in 1961"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "when he left office said beware the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "militaryindustrial complex. Now the very"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "good news is that there are extremely"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "senior people now in the US government"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "that we've given actionable intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "to who now know that that is true and"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "not some you know subculture conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "theory nonsense. So they know for a fact"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "it's true. But the implications of it"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "obviously are there are people who have"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "worked for a period of time or"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "episodically or maybe they were had an"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "incidental event that they saw. They"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "don't know that these projects, you"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "know, they were told keep this secret."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Sign this 70-year non-disclosure"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "agreement. And they thought they were"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "signing on to a legally sanctioned,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "even if it was a black project, a"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "legally sanctioned black project, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Now, I have been meeting with people who"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "manage the black budget of the United"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "States who denied access to these"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "projects. That's more proof of what I"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "said in the 90s after briefing the CI"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "director and after I briefed the head of"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "intelligence for the joint chiefs of"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "staff, Admiral Wilson, and the head of"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "the Defense Intelligence Agency on and"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "on and on and members of the Senate"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Intelligence Committee even in the 90s,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "they all said, \"Look, we know nothing"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "about this.\" So there's no way those"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "projects are being run legally if the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "president, the CI director, the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "secretary of defense, the people in"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "charge of the Pentagon at that level"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "can't get access to and are threatened."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Admiral Whistlam admitted he was"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "threatened"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> with the motion. And he told me worse if"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "he kept pushing on it. There's a former"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "member of Congress who at the time was a"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "member of Congress that I briefed. I"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "found out about a month ago, two months"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "ago, that a couple of guys showed up and"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "threatened to kill him and his family if"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "he pursued this any further. Now, that's"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "another reason why we're putting this in"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "place to also protect"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "to get a protection for these"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "whistleblowers. So, we're not only"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "providing people who have their"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "non-disclosure agreements and security"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "oaths, uh, whistleblower protection as"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "well as a mechanism around those and"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "often cases, they literally sign 70-year"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "secrecy agreements, but we're also uh"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "providing a mechanism for them to be"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "protected uh, physically and eventually"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "financially as well if if that's in"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "play. So I think this is why whether"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "you're on the corporate side of it with"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "a a contractor or military or"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "intelligence or other government agency,"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "you need to contact us at"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "seriousisclosure.com."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "sirusdisclosure.com"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "and there is actually a box on the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "contact bar for witnesses, military"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "corporate witnesses. Um it's very"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "important because this is a very very"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "big development. Um and the support is"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "now there and there's a mechanism there"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "and it has to happen I think pretty"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "efficiently in the next year or so"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "because I don't know that the window is"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "going to be open for much longer than"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "that. So I think you know time is of the"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "essence."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": ">> Yeah I think so and that's huge news. I"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "mean that's that's so"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "much different than what it's been in"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the past."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": ">> Oh yeah. There's nothing like it. I I"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "mean I'm in DC every week and have been"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "for decades and and I've never you know"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "this is by far the most promising"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "um movement forward and by the way it's"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "it's totally separate from that office"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "at the Pentagon or you know the sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "dog and pony so clueless open hearings"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "that happened a couple months ago that"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "were frankly a charade um because the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "guys who were there testifying didn't"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "even know what the malstrom nuclear"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "strategic air command uh nuclear case"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "was which is of course multiple"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "disclosure project witnesses and and"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "official US government documents that we"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "published in 2001."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Okay, 20 year 21 years ago. So you're"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "you're dealing with people who are where"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "it's really just sort of a a storefront."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "But there's another thing going on. What"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "I'm trying to tell people without saying"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "what I cannot go into details on is that"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "there's something else going on that's"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "very profound and very effective."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> And I'm sure they wonder how you know"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "all this stuff. Well,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "look, it's it's 32 years of hard work"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "and over, you know, a thousand or more"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "top secret guys who give me information,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "documents, facilities, project code"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "names, the locations of underground work"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "areas, on and on and on and on. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "conveying all of that to these people."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Every shred of it."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> It's a process. Yeah, we're in the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "process of of getting my archive"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "properly digitally scanned and organized"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "so that it can be put into a massive"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "archive for these folks."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> Someday maybe we'll make it available to"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "the public if we had enough. Well,"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "again, we're doing this with all"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "volunteers, so"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> but it's um you know, I I've told them I"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "don't want any official"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "US government supporter funding. I want"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "to stay fiercely independent, which I've"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "always been."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": ">> It's so not Washington because everyone"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "has their hand out."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> Um, but I said, \"Yeah, I those things"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "come with very big strings and ropes"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "that tie you up.\" No, thank you. I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "fierce, as you know, Pat, I'm fiercely"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "independent. I will not be corrupted."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Um, you know, I walked away from the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "head of General Stubble offered me $2"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "billion. was the head of army and"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "intelligence and the special forces in"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "1992 and they offered me personally $2"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "billion to betray what we're doing. I"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "said no thank you. So I think that this"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "is something that people have to"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "understand the kinds of threats that are"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "scary and bribes that are substantial"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "that have corrupted this process since"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "the late 1950s."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "um lethal force has been used and a lot"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "of money. You know, remember I met with"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "a member of this committee that runs"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "these covert programs in 1993 prior to"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "briefing the director of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "where he said we have paid at least"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "10,000 people $10 million each or more"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> to secure their cooperation with what"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "we're doing. and that he offered me"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "another kind of bribe. So, I think that"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "that's real. It's outrageous. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "look, a lot of people for that kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "money will say, \"Oh, yeah, sure. Great.\""}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "You know, they'd sell their grandmother"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "under the bus for that. or if they're"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "threatened, you know, I mean, this is"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "why I tell people the currency that"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "matters"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:47", "text": ">> in this is integrity, honesty, courage,"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "ex perseverance. The the these these"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "people I'm working with in DC, they have"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "all that. We've gone round and round."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "So, they're going the distance and"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "they're very courageous people. Um,"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": ">> to hear that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> Yeah. But they're not they're not just"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "they're not the political class lawyer"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "class of you know kind of nancing around"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "folks. These are people who've done"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "special operations. They've done uh very"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "courageous things. They understand the"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "risks. Um they have the ability to go"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "the distance legally now. And so far"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "they're going the distance. So, while"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "that door is open, I'm making an appeal"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "to everyone who's listening who's"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "concerned about this kind of illegal"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "secrecy. Remember, this group is a"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "transnational group that's global that"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "responds to no legal government anywhere"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "in the world that have technologies"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "thousands of years more advanced than"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "anything the mainstream legal"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "constitutional government of the United"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "States or China or Russia or Great"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "Britain or France have. So, um that's"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "what you're dealing with. And I'm I"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "don't sugarcoat the challenge. It's a"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "huge challenge. But what we have is the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "force of higher consciousness. This is"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "why I ask people, you know, when we do"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "at week this week event in in Arizona in"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "in outside Phoenix in September, I will"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "lead people through a meditation where"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "we put our awareness on all those"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "facilities and all those organizations"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "and see a different energy entering"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "their hearts and minds to cooperate with"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "moving this forward into a nonviolent"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "change."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "So that's very important. the power of"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "meditation and prayer. Uh I mean you"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "have to work on I think many dimensions."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": ">> You know you know and you know I get a"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "lot of people say why don't you just"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "stick with disclosure things? Why don't"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "you just stick with the CEO? I said no"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "it's all part and parcel."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": ">> Now I have another exciting"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "announcement. This will be the last one."}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "We just started last week the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "organization and production of the next"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "huge feature film, The Lost Century. And"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "it's going to be an expose of a hundred"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "years or more of exotic amazing free"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "energy zero point energy anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "technology. Uh that will be a 2hour"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "special that we hope to have finished to"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "have come out uh early next year"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "sometime."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": ">> So we're starting work on that. You'll"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "be hearing more about it. We do need to"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "crowdfund and do some things with it. We"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "haven't set that up yet. Um, but we're"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "going to need a lot of help and support."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "Now, what if you're listening, what we"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "need right now,"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "anyone who has an operating free energy"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "device, quote unquote, I say free energy"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "meaning coming from the quantum vacuum"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "or 0 point plasma generators putting out"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "more energy than it consumes when you"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "start it up. Um, they need to contact us"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "immediately because we're going to get a"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "billion to two billion people to see"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "this. we're going to you all the big"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "influencers and a lot of the celebrities"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "interested in this will get behind it."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "Secondly, we need to have uh people who"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "have collected archives of past"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "inventions that have been suppressed"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": ">> or and that have been tested and have"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "validity, not just some rumor of"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "something. We need that because we want"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "to feature the top 10 of those in this"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "two-hour documentary. So, anyone who has"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "that information, who's been researching"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "this, please get that to us immediately"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "because we're actually de we're actually"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "collecting all that now and in"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "September, early October, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "do all the the interviews with people"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "and then be in postp production October,"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "November, December. And then this will"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "be ready to hand off to u whatever"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "distributor to get it out to the public"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "for for 2023. So, we're on a very tight"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "fast timeline. Of course, anyone who's"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "worked with me knows that I I don't know"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "how to work any other way, but um but"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "it's we need help with that. So, people"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "listening, if you can help us, please"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "don't write us with just rumors of"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "rumors of rumors or nonsense. Um we need"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "very, you know, scientific legitimate"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "things. And we're not interested, by the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "way, in someone who has an idea about"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "something. We have thousands of pages of"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "people's theoretical ideas. We're not"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "interested in theories. We're not"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "interested in someone's idea. Only"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "something operational right now that can"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "be run or very solid evidence of not"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "only the existence of previous ones, but"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "also their suppression. How were they"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "suppressed? Were the people killed? Was"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "it confiscated? Was the National"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Security Act abused and national"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "security orders? Were were their patents"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "confiscated? Um these all these"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "techniques have been used in the past"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "and we want to feature the ones that"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "have the strongest evidence, not just"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "rumors,"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": ">> uh but the strongest evidence for"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "because the public, think about it, the"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "public's like they have with the UFO"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "issue. Where's the evidence? That's why"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "we did the disclosure project and put"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "110 top secret witness testimonies"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "together and all the documents. So, we"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "have to do the same thing with this"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "where we prove that this is not an urban"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "myth and that your Tesla automobile"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "instead of having 900 lb of lithium-ion"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "batteries could have one this big and"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "then one of these generator motors."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "Boom. And it runs. Never has to be"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "charged. Never have to plug it in."}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": ">> Huge."}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> Yeah, it's big. the idea that you're"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "going to do a CGI to show what would"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "this world look like because people do"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "not have the ability to visualize what"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "they know is what we see right now and"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "they can't imagine what the world look"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "like or how it would be. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": ">> and that's a huge problem. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "think part of what we're going to put,"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "we're gonna need some support for this,"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "but we're gonna have people who can do"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "really good graphics and and and motion"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "graphics and uh to show what the Earth"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "would look like in 10 years, 20 years,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "100 years, 500 years, a thousand years"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "because it's a complete nothing looking"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "back thousands of years could prepare"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "anyone for what the world will look like"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "in 50 when all this technology is put"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "into peaceful use. It is a whole new"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "world. And that's why I'm convinced the"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "ET when Colonel Corso said, \"What's in"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "it for me?\" when the ET at White Sands"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "in 1956 said, \"Would you help us?\" And"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "he, you know, he was very brash and"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "admitted to us, he's oh yeah, I was just"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "like this young Air Force colonel. And"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "uh and the ET said, \"A new world, if you"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "can take it. It is a new world."}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "Beautiful.\" And we want to show that to"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "people because I think there's so much"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "hopelessness about the environment,"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "inflation and oil and pollution and"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "toxicity and the oceans dying and it is"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "depressing."}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": ">> Um but but that's not it. You have to"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "know, you have to describe the problem,"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "which we will do,"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": ">> but you also have to describe that we"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "have a solution and then prove it and"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "then show the world in the aftermath"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "because it has to become a publicly"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "supported movement."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": ">> Because let's face it, any inventor that"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "has one of these devices, if you're"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "listening,"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "you're not going to be able to get this"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "out through any conventional strategy"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "that a normal technology would get out"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "through. You're going to have to have"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "one to two billion people know about it."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "You're going to have to have strategic"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "security in place. You're going to have"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "to have"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "an enormous infrastructure around it or"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "it'll be squashed like a bug."}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "And I tell people thousands of these"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "devices and inventions since before"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "Tesla have have come and gone. Why have"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "they never gotten out into application?"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "Because the collusion of corporate"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "fascists and government interests that"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "want to keep the world centrally"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "controlled by certain types of people"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "with the kind of money and power they"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "have. Those people do not go quietly"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "into the night. They want to hold on to"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "that power even if it kills the"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "biosphere. And millions of people, you"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "know, even if you don't believe in"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "global climate change and warming, five"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "million people or more a year die from"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "just the particulate pollution in the"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "air, from coal and gas and pollution,"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "and God knows how many from cancer, from"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "all the toxicity that's in our food"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "supply, water, ground, and air. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "it's it's the the number of people who"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "died in the Holocaust happening every"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "year just due to pollution. People don't"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "think about this, right? And and never"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "mind there are three billion people on"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "the planet that still don't have any"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "means to cook their food with gas or"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "electricity. They're cutting down old"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "growth forest and wood and there's"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "what's called the certification where"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "this growth of deserts is happening"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "because it's all being chopped down for"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "subsistence. That's three billion"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": ">> That's nearly 30%."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. No, it's more than 30. It's"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "more like 40%. Uh yeah, it's it's more"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "than 40% of the world's population. So,"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "you know, when you're dealing with that"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "kind of situation,"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "you're not going to fix it with solar or"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "wind, and you're not going to fix it by"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "just drilling more oil and gas and coal."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "So, what the points we're going to make"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "is that both sides are right and wrong."}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "The people advocating more oil and gas"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "in the sense are correct that the"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "current technology that people know"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "about won't replace the power grid in"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "the United States. I think the whole"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "world could run about 75 seconds. It's"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "estimated on the amount of battery"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "storage that you need for wind and and"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "solar that we currently have on the"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "earth. 75 seconds. It it it just is too"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "little and it's going to be too little"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "too late."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": ">> Um but it's also not an answer to just"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "keep dredging up oil, gas, and coal even"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "if we have hundreds of years of supply"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "because it's poisoning the planet."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "Right? So both sides have"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "and here's the thing always remember"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "when both sides are right and wrong in"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "different aspects but in of course in a"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "polarized world nobody thinks this way"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "anymore both are missing something. What"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "is this other ingredient being missed?"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "It's these technologies that have been"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "kept secret. That's the solution. And"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "that's why the lost century and the"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "subcaption to it is and how to retrieve"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "it. Um so the lost century and how to"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "retrieve it. That is such an important"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "thing for the public to know about"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "because uh it's not as simple as an"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "inventor saying, \"Oh, I have a new"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "energy thing and the world's going to"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "beat a path to your door.\" Before the"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "world's going to know about it, you're"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "gonna be killed or you're gonna be"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "offered a hundred million dollars and be"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "rich. It's not going to get out to the"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "public. We have to develop a strategy"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "where a billion two billion people know"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "about it, understand it, and get behind"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "the support socially to move it forward."}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "That's how change happens. when you're"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "dealing with a asymmetric powerful group"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "of folks who are very small number of"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "people, you know, a thousands of 1% of"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "the public, not with the 1%"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "um but who have outsized power and are"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "willing to use force to maintain that"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "power. To change that, I mean this is"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "real power to the people here."}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": ">> To change that, you have to have a"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "totally different way of thinking."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "and that's what we want to present and"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "we're going to need help with that. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": ">> you know, it seems looking back in the"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "history um some of the largest changes"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "socially"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": ">> have helped our world have really come"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "from um a grassroots um program from"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "people. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:04", "text": ">> everything,"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:10", "text": ">> Yep. No big change that's happened in"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "human history has come from the people"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "at the top of the pyramid,"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:13", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": ">> Because they're at the top. They don't"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "want to see that change, right? Right?"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:18", "text": ">> Think about it. Think about the power"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "dynamic,"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": ">> So, it comes from the base of that"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "pyramid. Us, you know, those sort of"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "ordinary people like you and me. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "I put myself squarely in that category."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "I mean having grown up very poor in the"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "south and with no privilege and no"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "access to anything I don't I think"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "people have to view themselves as uh"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "however um you know how would Martin"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "Luther King or Gandhi or uh any past"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "movement that's led to great"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "advancements in science or thought or"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "society happen if we had waited for the"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "king or the emperor or whoever was at"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "the top to do it it would have never"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "ever ever happened."}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": ">> So that's what people we live in a time"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "where because of the internet and social"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "media and smartphones and all that I"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "think people and TV become more and more"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "passive and we have to develop an"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "activistbased base for not only C5"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "contact to make contact peacefully with"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "these other civilizations but to also do"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "disclosure which is what we're doing."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "And then the third part of this"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "triangle, you know, our logo is these"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "three circles that makes a equilateral"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "triangle. Uh that that third one is the"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "energy, the technologies and new energy"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "systems that will run the planet"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "indefinitely with no pollution and"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "without poverty. And therefore"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "eventually if you solve this the social"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "justice poverty issues, you can"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "eventually have a foundation for lasting"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "peace. And without peace there is no"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "future because the technologies once you"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "get to the nuclear threshold are such"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "that without peace you're facing every"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "decade or two a situation like we have"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "now where Russia's threatening to send"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "nuclear weapons to America if we support"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "Ukraine all this kind of stuff. So this"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "sort of thinking is not sustainable once"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "you go past machine guns and tanks and"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "conventional bombs because such an event"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "would be the end of life on earth. So I"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "think we have to develop a civilization"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "where it's a totally different"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "consciousness first a set of values but"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "also the technologies go with it. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "not going to help the earth if"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "everyone's sitting in enlightenment in a"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "cave and we're all still using oil and"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "gas and coal to have air conditioning"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "and run our cars and heat our houses"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": ">> and manufacture things. You know, China"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "right now is building 30 new coal fired"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "power plants. One of them one of it will"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "be the biggest one in the world. So, and"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "India similarly. So this is happening"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "all over and it's getting worse and"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "worse and the only solution is"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "the known solution and even though it's"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "covert and it's controversial,"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "we're also going to have interviews with"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "really top drawer physicists, PhD"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "physicists at universities who are going"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "to confirm the zero point energy field"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "and confirm these technologies. So this"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "is going to be a very hard-hitting"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "piece."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> All right. So, anyone who has leads for"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "us on any of this, please contact us"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "because we're actually in production"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": ">> Yeah. When I read the description, I"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "thought, \"Wow, this is going to cover a"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "lot of very, very important and really"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "very interesting stuff.\" I mean, really."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:44", "text": ">> Yeah, it is."}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:47", "text": ">> Well, I hope all of you can join us."}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "I'll let you go now. It's been about an"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "hour, I think, and um I got to run. But,"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "uh thank you guys. Thank you, Pat. And"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "uh I hope"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": ">> I hope all of you can join us uh either"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "in person or virtually in uh September"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "in Arizona where we'll make contact C5"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "contact in Arizona in the desert."}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:08", "text": ">> Thank you, Dr. Greer."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": ">> Thank you. Bye bye."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:11", "text": ">> Bye."}]

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You can't"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "just cherrypick, oh, there's some"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "genetic there's some DNA strands here."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "We're going to pull those out and make"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "them fit into a predetermined"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "conclusion."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Not do the test that should be done to"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "see how much of that is mutation versus"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "damage. and then put this in a major"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "peer-review journal and give interviews"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "to the New York Times and everywhere"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "else saying, \"Haha, this little alien"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "mummy is in reality a deformed child.\""}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Now, there's a legal case going in Chile"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "with the government furious that a human"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "child was taken out of the country"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "without the correct permits."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "And this is was in the New York Times"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "yesterday. 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But"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> were there other countries involved in"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "this too?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> No. No. It came from uh Chile and was"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "purchased by this man in Spain and was"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "taken to Spain where it's remained now."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "I believe it's in the Barcelona Museum,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "but there it's created a huge"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "governmental uh kurfuffle in Chile and"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "the scientific community there is"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "furious that this specimen was taken out"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "of their country. 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It's 6507212667"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "and it's compliance stanford.edu."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "So I will put this up just so many"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "people could get a screenshot of it."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Now, for those of you watching the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "YouTube link, you're seeing this on"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "video right now. Most of us are"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "listening live on the radio. So, either"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "way, the links will be at the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the YouTube videos. Good."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> And also on americanfreedradio.com in"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "the archives."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Yeah. And and I think that what what"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "what we are eventually going to do is"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "collect all the comments from these"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "scientists and the report from the 2005"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "study saying you cannot conclude what he"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "did based on ancient old DNA that's been"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "in an uncontrolled environment out in"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "the desert. Um to out and we'll post it"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "on our website and we will put it out"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "there. We're still collecting all of"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "this, but I want to collect more. The"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "reason I went on your show is that I"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "want to get more evidence from the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Adakama from researchers. I'm waiting to"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "get some firsthand interviews of people"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "who have seen more of these little uh"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "creatures walking around. We want more"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "information on the Russia case."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Apparently, a Japanese news crew went"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "over there before the FSB confiscated"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "the Russian being and they got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "material and evidence. And we want a"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "full investigation in Russia to find"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "where this body went. Where did this"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "small uh unusual looking body went?"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Where is it now? Has it been"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "incinerated? Is it in a lab? Is it in an"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "underground base? Did it get taken out"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "of the country and brought to the United"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "States? Uh where it's in a black"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "project? We need to know where this is."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Um so there's a great deal of research."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "What I'm saying is the case on this is"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "not closed. It's just opening."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "But the New York Times, everything"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "that's fit the print, of course, hahha,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "what a joke, uh, has said case is closed"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "and that it's a deformed human girl."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Now, I don't know what it is. I want to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "go back to the fact that in the film"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "series, at the press conference after,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "and to this very moment on this date in"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "2018, I am saying I don't know what it"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "is. I honestly don't. And an honest"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "researcher will say that because I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "have a database of ETDNA to match it"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "with. You see what I'm saying there? I"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "mean, I know the CIA does. In fact, in"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "this this email I got from this senior"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "CIA official, he was talking that he's"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "studying um something that doesn't match"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "to their uh quote alien DNA database."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "They have that. That's a explosive what"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "he admitted in that email. That's"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "another whole story. but that it isn't a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "human, but it also doesn't appear to be"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "quote an alien. And of course, I'll have"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "to have a conversation with him. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "probably a PLF, a program life form, the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "fake ones that they use to abduct people"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "with. He's probably one of those"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "probably got captured."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Remember, 99% of everything you will"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "ever read and see on this subject is"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "hoax. 99%."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "That includes all the abduction data,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the mutilation data, um the all"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "everything that is portraying that these"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "aliens as a threat to us as harming us."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "It's all a lie. It's all been hoax. And"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "we've known this for 20 years, 25 years."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "And everyone in the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "community at a senior level know that."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Now, they won't say it to the public."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "There are those like Alzando who is head"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "of the threat assessment office"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "uh at the Pentagon to spin it in the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "direction of an alien threat like Verer"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "von Brown told you they would. But we're"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "seeing now what we're we're in our in"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "front of our very eyes, Carol, we are"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "seeing played out before us what Veron"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Brown predicted in the 70s."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> Well, for sure. In fact, you see boxes"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "all around me. My husband and I have now"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "moved to another location so I can start"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "working more on this, focused with it,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "especially with my Russian colleagues"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "who know what you're saying. They talk"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "about the disinformation, the different"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "perspectives, belief systems,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "interpretations, and it's why I kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "stopped working with this community that"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "is focused on selling books and tapes"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "and conferences and right"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> poster people, right? But it it isn't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "changing anything. I'm interested in"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "working with people who want to cause a"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "change if it's possible, right? We've"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "got to come together and finally tell"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the truth. Yes. We have nothing to lose."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "If you listen to Dr. Guy McFersonen, who"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "supports your work, of course, um he's"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "an expert who's been on the show several"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "times. He says that because we're not"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "waking up to the truth and facing it,"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "it's very possible that the whole human"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "species will not be here within 10 years"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "or less. It could happen in a blink of"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "an eye. And if you look at what's going"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "on on the planet, I could list the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "different things, but won't take the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "time or the big wobble.org, you read"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "about it and see pictures. You see,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "we're in really dire grave conditions."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Yes, we are"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> all over the world. So, what you're"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "doing is so vitally important. And would"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "you give all of your contact"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "information, the Netflix information"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "about the documentary, how people can"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "reach you? Let's get that right in to"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "make sure we don't miss this opportunity"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "for people to contact you and what you"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "would like for people to do."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Well, we want people to contact us if"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "they have more information and are"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "whistleblowers on the possibility of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "corruption in this case, whether it's at"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Stanford or UCSF or at Cold Spring"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Harbor and Genome Research Magazine. We"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "need whistleblowers to come forward. We"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "need people to come forward who are"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "scientists who further to further review"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "the data and who are experts in ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "DNA to uh make comments on it on the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "legitimacy of these conclusions that"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "were reached. We need the public to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "contact all of you listening that office"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "at Stanford and also the editor of uh"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "genome research magazine Dr. assessment"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "and to get your uh to express your"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "dismay at how this has been handled. And"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "eventually we're going to ask that"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "everyone we're going to put a clipping"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "file together of all the media that has"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "c carried this outrageous story to ask"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "them to uh investigate the truth and to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "retract these statements that they have"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "made because the media as you know has"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "colluded with the intelligence community"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "on this. There's no chance that the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "media just dis discovered this obscure"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "journal, you know, genome. How many"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "media people know about genome research?"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "How many people know? Suddenly it goes"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "from appearing in that to being"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "worldwide news overnight when all the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "work we have done putting together the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "hard evidence of the proof of ET and UFO"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "research has never been covered by them."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Never. what's going on here? That's the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "proof of the corruption of the media."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "So, we feel there should be people who"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "are very good investigative reporters"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "who are independent of the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "media to drill down on where are the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "points of corruption. As special agent"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "uh Richard Dodie said, we carry bags of"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "cash to these editors. We want to find"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "out who are the people on the inside of"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "the New York Times and CNN and BBC that"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "are corrupt and who have been corrupting"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "this story. And then as soon as Alzando"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "and this disinformation rat pack want to"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "have this one gam gun camera footage"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "case in December on December 16th known"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "it's worldwide news. Whereas the number"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "one documentary in the world"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "unagnowledged that's on Netflix and"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "iTunes and everywhere on this subject"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "has never been mentioned in any of the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "mainstream media. Why? Because in the"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "documentary"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "we have you talking about this host"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "alien threat. We have an expose of the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "corruption of the media. We have an"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "expose of the corruption of the academic"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "community because we mentioned the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "condom report and and of course this is"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "before all this. This is another whole"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "documentary that we need to create here."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "We will we need help with that by the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "way. But I think that the public needs"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "to understand that there's something"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "very fishy going on and that the fact"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "that all of this has become headline"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "news based on a poorly done study that"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "has reached outrageously wild"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "implausible conclusions by any common"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "sense analysis. Never mind if you're a"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "PhD in genetics. But the people with"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "PhDs are looking at that and going this"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "is utter junk. Complete junk. So, how"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "does that make its way onto the front"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "page of the New York Times? How does"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "that make its way into Cold Spring"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Harbor's flagship genome research"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "journal where Watson and Crick"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "discovered the DNA molecule? This is an"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "outrageous series of events. This is"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "global news. Now, whether it will ever"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "be covered honestly,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "I don't know. I've been doing this for"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "28 years and I've never seen the media"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "treat this subject honestly yet because"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "they're in the back pocket of the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "intelligence community. That paper I"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> certainly not in this country and and"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "allies when I was in Russia traveled"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "internationally. It does go out but not"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": ">> it does. Yeah. Well well maybe the news"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "media in Russia or Russia today or"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "Pravda or the Chinese news agency will"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "report this but it it's something that"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "needs to get reported globally. We're on"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "this planet together. 7.7 billion"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "people. We have very limited time to fix"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "this problem. And this question of are"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "we alone in the universe? How are they"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "getting here? What are the technologies"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "they're using to get here? And could"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "that save the world's environment and"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "eliminate poverty and the collapse of"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "the ecosystem? Yes. So that's why I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "doing the disc I left my medical career"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "to do this because in the heart of this"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "issue and the disclosure factual"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "truthful disclosure of this issue is the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "ability for the human race to go forward"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "not only in space peacefully but to live"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "on this planet without destroying it."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Because the technologies that they've"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "kept from us, just like the information"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "they've kept from us, would give us free"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "and clean energy, no pollution,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "soundless travel, anti-gravity. We would"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "never need roads again. We would never"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "need any pollution. Poverty on this"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "planet would be eliminated in one"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "generation. There would be no poverty on"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "this planet in one generation. All of"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "that is possible still, Carol, but it"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "isn't going to happen until we as a"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "people come together and make it so. And"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "I think that that's one of the real"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "calls to action. Everyone from Vladimir"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Putin to the uh the the president of"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "China to uh Theresa May in the UK, many"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "of these people, they all need to"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "understand what's at stake here. And the"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "reason we have been had this case"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "submarine is that they're trying to move"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "everything you and I are doing aside so"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "that they have a clear playing field for"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "the alien threat announcement. This is"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "what I want to get to at the end of your"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "program. What is the point of all this?"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Now, I don't think Dr. Nolan understands"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "this because this is past his pay grade"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "in the intelligence community. They"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "would know. But there is a methodology"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "being followed here. Let's discredit"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "anything related to the actual truth and"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "people doing truthtelling like we are on"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "this and let's magnify"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "the people who are the running scams as"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "the CIA guy says about the TTSA group"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "and the counter intelligence and CIA"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "people who are fronting for this cabal"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "who are trying to prepare the world for"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "the alien threat so that we can spend"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "trillions of dollars on a fake threat"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "that doesn't exist and put weapons all"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "over space which has just been"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "announced. This is this is an"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "existential crisis. You ever think this"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "is sort of some gadfly weird little"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "thing on the side about this life form"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "that this adakama humanoid and what"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "you're doing. No, this is the future of"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "the human race that's at stake here. You"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "know it, I know it. Everyone knows it."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": ">> and the pieces are being put together to"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "support everything you're saying. Even"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Elon Musk whose top people told me he"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "will not support the words peace in"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "space not even to continue the"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "cooperation which is all there is in"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "outer space right now let alone mention"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "the signing of the treaty to ban all"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "space-based weapons which would open up"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "all the truth and disclose all and let"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "the portals of information come in. No."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "So people have a hard time discerning"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "though for who to listen to. And what"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "you've done is put together a"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "constellation not of Elon Musk's kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "satellites to cover the world, which has"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "just been announced he's getting ready"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "to do, but you've put together a"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "constellation of people and information."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "That is amazing,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": ">> right? And this is what we have. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "if you go to our website, serious.com,"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "sirdisclosure.com,"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "there are links to dozens of military"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "and intelligence and corporate"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "whistleblowers who are giving you real"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "information. There are all the images of"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "this, the CAT scans, the do Dr."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Lochman's report from Stanford. All of"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "that is there. We're being as"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "transparent as we can possibly be. And"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "we're always trying to say we're not"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "alone in the universe. We have been"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "visited. The technologies have been"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "developed from studying this that could"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "save the world's environment and and"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "create justice and peace here and in"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "space. But it it has to happen in a way"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "where there now has to be a ground"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "swell. People are going to have to get"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "first outraged that they've been left"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "out of the loop, but then take"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "constructive action. And we need more"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "whistleblowers to come forward. And we"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "need more people in high places in"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "Russia and other countries because I I I"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "don't I'm very patriotic. My my mother's"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "family were some of the original"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "prisoner of war with the British uh in"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "founding the United States. But I have"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "to say I don't I think"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "United States has become a lost cause."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "The corruption here is so bad. The"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "corruption of the media, the cor"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "collusion with academia and the media"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "and the intelligence community is so"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "entrenched that we need help from Russia"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "and China and Brazil and Chile and"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Bolivia and wherever France. We need"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "countries to understand, don't wait for"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "the United States. And this is one of my"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "messages to Vladimir Putin and to China."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "Do not wait for the United States. The"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "United States"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "at this point has lost its ability to"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "lead on this matter. And I in fact it is"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "the crown jewel in the global secrecy on"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "this. It is the biggest economy. It has"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "the most technology. is where most of"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "the assets are that are based on these"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "advanced weapons systems that they've"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "been studying from these ET craft. The"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "United States is not going to give up"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "that position. The rest of the world"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "needs to come together with a a a space"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "peace declaration and treaty. They need"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "to disclose what they have in their"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "archives. They need to come together"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "with us to develop the technologies and"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "get them out to save the planet's"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "environment."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "and they need to just do this"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "irregardless of what the United States"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "is going to do because I have personally"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "been involved with this from"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "the end of the George HW Bush period,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "the briefing of President Clinton when I"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "was working with Lawrence Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "and his the CIA director for Clinton"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "with the George Bush George W. Bush"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "period where Andy Card, his chief of"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "staff, walked out the day we did the"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "disclosure project event and took that"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "entire 500page briefing document and"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "took it back into the White House for"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "Bush to read. That happened, by the way."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "I don't know if you know that. And then"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "the Obama administration with Podesta"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "where we put together this briefing for"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "him and now we have Trump and as soon as"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "he got nominated, I put together a"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "briefing for Trump. There's nothing"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "coming out of the United States that is"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "good. Uh unfortunately from the official"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "point of view."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": ">> So this is historic and biblical. It"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "goes way back. So now I love your idea"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "of starting now bringing the world"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "together and doing the things that"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "you're calling for"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> and Americans will come along. I mean"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "the most people in America are not part"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "of some evil cabal. Most people just"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "want to live their life. They want to"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "have peace. They want to have uh"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "prosperity and they want to be able to"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "have their families be safe and secure."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "But the most dangerous thing going on"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "most Americans don't know of. They're"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "not going to find out from the New York"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Times that we're, you know, trying to as"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "oon provocators were trying to provoke"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "an attack from these interstellar"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "civilizations and have been doing so for"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "decades. We have evidence after evidence"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "after evidence of our training our"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "weapon systems on them and shooting"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "their craft down and yet they haven't"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "retaliated. Where have they retaliated?"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "No place. It shows the enlightened"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "restraint of these other civilizations"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "because they've gone beyond where we"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "are. They have reached the level one"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "that Michikaku talks about in terms of a"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "level one civilization that's peaceful"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "and isn't cannibalizing its environment"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "to live. They've gone into these higher"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "levels of social consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "technology and they're waiting for us to"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "catch up. But the problem is most of"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "humanity I think is ready for this leap"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "forward. But there are these sociopaths,"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "the Armageddonites, the people who want"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "to have a World War III end of life on"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "earth so that their Messiah will return"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "or their Christ will return. these nut"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "jobs who frankly are running these"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "covert programs. They're lunatics. I've"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "met with them. I mean, when I was"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "meeting with one of the members of the"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "committee, this majority intelligence"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "committee, he said to me point blank,"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "\"We need to have a global environmental"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "catastrophe in World War II so that"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "Christ will return.\" I'm not kidding"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "you. This is how crazy these people are."}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "So, these are the people who have the"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "most power and money in the world."}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "They're absolute lunatics. I'm just"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "going to say it right there, point"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "blank."}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": ">> And we have the biggest hearts in the"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "world. And there are people in the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "complex. I've worked in positions in the"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "revolving door complex. Many, many"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "people will agree with you. Now, if we"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "can support getting a treaty sign,"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "support getting this information out."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "This show has been one more sample that"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "you have produced. Thank you, Stephen"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "Greer, Dr. degree for all the work that"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "you've been doing as a physician for"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "your nine grandchildren and for the"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "children of the world multihundreds of"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "millions of them who are starving right"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "this minute and suffering with disease"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "unnecessarily change it thanks to your"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "kind of vision"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": ">> well please contact us at"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "seriousislosure.com I people who want to"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "see what's happened with unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "which has in the last year been the"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "number one documentary in the world I"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "think the release of all this"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "disinformation by the rat backpack that"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "this CIA guy calls these guys with has"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "happened because they know that there"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "are 100,000 people a day seeing the"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "documentary unagnowledged 100,000"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "people. Um, and that's why, you know, at"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "our at our online store, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "get this book, you can get it half off"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "or you get it for free if you get the"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "DVD of of the unagnowledged movie. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "we're doing this because we want to move"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "this out. You can then do showings of it"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "in your community centers. Just get the"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "word out. This is all viral. We're not"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "going to get help from the New York"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "Times. But you, we the people can do it."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "I have faith in the people. I I have not"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "I've sort of lost faith in the US"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "government. Now, I you know, I've dealt"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "in a limited way with other governments"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "and I have found that they have been"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "similarly corrupted on a on a deep level"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "of their sort of deep national security"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "issues. But maybe there will be people"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "in Russia or France or Chile or Bolivia"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "or other places that will come forward."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "I am also hoping people come forward who"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "are scientists who help review this"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "paper like this geneticist has over the"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "last four days. He he has spent four day"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "long days going through the data and has"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "concluded it is complete junk."}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "Absolutely junk. And I think that the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "public needs to uh u file a complaint"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "with Stanford and with Cold Spring"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "Harbor, but they if there are scientists"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "out there who are sincere trutht tellers"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "who won't willing to be named in this,"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "they need to contact me because that's"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "this is the only way as as elders as I"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "get older, I feel that people like you"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "and I have to be truth tellers and"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "expose the frauds and expose the"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "corruption and tell the truth. We don't"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "have many days left on this planet. So,"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "let's let's do it. It's time for us to"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": ">> ladies and gentlemen, thank you for"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "joining us. Make contact with Dr. Greer."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "Let's keep the truth flowing. We can"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "have peace on this planet in our"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "lifetime like there is in space. And we"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "can go for it with this uncovering of"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "the coverups and the vision. Give it to"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "the children. spread the world uh the"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "word around the world so that we can all"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "live in peace."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": ">> Yes. Thank you very much."}]

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Um, when you have a womb,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "fetus in the womb, there's no gravity."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "It's like it's in a uh one of those"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "floating chambers. The fetus is just"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "floating in fluid. It's called amniotic"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "fluid."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "And there's not a lot of calcium or bone"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "density. And when the baby is born,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "having delivered many babies and taken"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "care of trauma in babies that have been"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "in terrible accidents, their bones are"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "almost like gumby bear. They're like"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "gumbies. They're flexible because it's"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "mostly cartilagynous material as opposed"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "uh you know hard bones that crack and"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "break. Does this make sense? The reason"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "for that is that they haven't been up"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "walking around bang bang bang uh moving"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "where and there it's a developmental"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "So one of the things that Dr. Lochman"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "observed and the radiologists in Spain"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "in Barcelona who were excellent observed"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "as soon as the images just x-ray images"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "came off we did those before the cat"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "scan they said oh my god what the hell"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "is this? I remember them gasping because"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the bone density was that of a normal"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "child. It wasn't of a fetus and the size"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "6 in. They were assuming this was a fe"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "fetus. And when they looked at the bone"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "density, they said, \"Well, there is"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "absolutely no way this is a fetus that"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "was aborted or a miscarried. This"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "absolutely it was a uh organism that was"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "uh up moving around because the other"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "thing is that there there are cells"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "called uh osteoblasts"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "that when you this is why people as they"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "get older if they walk around more they"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "have stronger bones because osteo"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "osteoblasts are stimulated to lay down"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "more calcium by walking and moving and"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "working out. It's why it's important for"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "people those of us getting older to stay"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "active. Now, what you don't what people"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "don't understand is that a a fetus the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "the X-rays if you go to look at fetal"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "X-rays and you can do this on your own,"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Google it, you will see that the bone"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "density of those versus this atakama"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "humanoid are vastly different. Any"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "radiologist,"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "medical doctor looking at those, even a"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "radiology tech will go, this is not the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "X-ray of a deformed fetus. Full stop."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "So, we knew that it wasn't a a fetus"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "that was rejected by the time we got the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "X-rays out of the machine in 2012 in"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Barcelona. And Gary knew it. And Dr."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Lochman, who was the world's expert on"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "this, let me explain. Dr. Lochman at"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Stanford literally wrote the textbook on"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "skeletal abnormalities in uh children."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Literally wrote the textbook, renowned"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "globally. He said that it was a six to"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "eight year old child from not only the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "bone density but also the epiphysial"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "plates where the bone when your bones"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "are growing there's still plates that"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "are open so it can get bigger and bigger"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "because you're still growing."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Now the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "and in his comments which we will post"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "he states that well there are some rare"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "genetic conditions called proggeria"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "where your bones age faster. So maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "that's not the real age. But he says I"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "seriously doubt it. He says point blank"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "in this particular specimen. He doubts"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "that he did not."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Were they projecting that this was 6 to"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "8 years old though at 6 in?"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> Yes. Yes. This is this is in his report"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "word for word. I'm quoting from the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "report I held up a moment ago that it"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "was a 6 in"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "specimen that was 6 to 8 years of age by"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "both bone density. Now, the fact that"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "they're saying this was an aborted or"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "miscarried"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "uh fetus that spontaneously like when a"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "woman has a miscarriage is that is"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "laughable. The medical evidence and the"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "world's expert on this and any radiology"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "worth their grain of salt, a grain of"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "salt would say this is ridiculous. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "junk science. So now we get to the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "question of how do you go from that to a"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "major medical journal like genome"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "research putting in this kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "misinformation to the public."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "And one of the things that was pointed"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "out to me in my telephone conversation"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "with uh this worldrenowned genetic uh"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "geneticist"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "is that he he said that"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "when I he said I want to review the peer"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "review statements. Now often when you do"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "peer review in a journal the identities"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "of who reviewed it are kept secret"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "because they don't want to be attacked"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "for having you know not accepted your"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "paper but the statements they make are"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "generally made available so that you can"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "see what people said about it. The"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "senior editor at Genome Research refused"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "to give this renowned geneticist the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "comments and the review itself, how this"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "how it was peer-reviewed. What are they"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "keeping secret? He knew that there was"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "something very fishy there because"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "apparently it must have been a junior"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "editor who slipped this into this"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "prestigious journal and now they're"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "running scared at Genome Research"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "magazine. the um he also says that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "someone walking off the street into"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Stanford maybe could have made these"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "mistakes on the sequencing and the fact"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "that this old DNA is damaged but anyone"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "would have done the controls and not"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "reach these conclusions. He and he he"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "said that they were obviously"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "cherrypicked and out of millions of"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "changes in the DNA they picked about 60"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "to create this predetermined hypothesis."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Um and he said it would be headline news"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "if there was one new genetic syndrome"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "found in a living specimen that they are"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "claiming that there are seven of them is"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "laughable and implausible. I'm quoting"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the data does not support the"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "conclusions of that paper at all. So I"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "think that this gets into the question"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "of there's been a breakdown in the peer"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "review process. There's been a breakdown"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "in oversight at Stanford. There's been a"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "breakdown in the people at publishing"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "this, but also the science writers. If"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "you're a science writer for the New York"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Times or the Washington Post or CNN,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "you should have asked people,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "is it plausible that this unusual"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "looking creature"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "that had all this other evidence from"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Dr. Lochman, from the radiologist, the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "CAT scans is actually a fetus that was"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "miscarried?"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "They would any if that data were put in"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "front of any competent doctor, medical"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "doctor, they would have said, \"No, this"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "is ridiculous.\" And if they anyone who"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "would have gone through, now granted, it"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "took 4 days for this worldrenowned"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "geneticist to go through the data files"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "to see where the errors were made and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "where the cherrypicking happened. And"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "this caused him to conclude that what"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "they did is that they had a foregone"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "conclusion, which we know they did"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "because Dr. Nolan made statements to the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "public in 2012. It's 2013 when the movie"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Serious was coming out. It's a deformed"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "fetus. I mean, it's it's a deformed"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "human. It's human. End of discussion."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "And that was reported in Science"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "magazine and everything."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Stephen, I know I have my viewpoint."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "many of our listeners do why all of this"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "is so hidden, why there's an aggressive"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "discrediting campaign against people who"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "are trying to be truth tellers and"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "reveal what's going on like you've done"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "in the ultimate ways. Why would you say"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "this is happening and can we even undo"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> Well, for the mainstream public, I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "think there's any undoing. I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "are irreparably damaged here because the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "the the scientific journals and the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "mainstream media have colluded on what"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "is I think one of the largest scientific"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "uh misinformation campaigns in modern"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "history. I am not exaggerating to say"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "when you have something that could"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "potentially be and we don't know. I I"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "want to say I there's no proof yet that"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "this is of an extraterrestrial origin,"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "but even if there's a 1% chance it is,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "to have the DNA sequencing be altered,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "to have"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "known science thrown out, such as the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "fact that something laying out in the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "desert is going to have changes in the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "DNA sequence that are not naturally"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "occurring mutations on the bones that"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "cause the bones to look like this or the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "creature to look like this but are the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "result of just normal degradation and"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "decay. This is settled science. This is"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "how do you make these wild spurious"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "conclusions which are published in a"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "mainstream journal and then covered"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "globally and it's case closed. The case"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "is closed."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> It's the same with the space weapons"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "issue. I mean people are still you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "mentioned weapons of mass destruction."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "People are still believing that they"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "really were there or that the Russians"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "colluded and people are believing what's"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "in the media."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> Yes, they believe the media."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> When I hear you, I start to get some"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "hope. But then I wonder,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> well, here's what I think. I I think"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "that there's hope only because a large"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "majority of the the population doesn't"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "trust the media. A large percentage of"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the population has begun to question"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "these authority figures. Now,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "unfortunately, we used to have the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "citadels of truth were our prestigious"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "scientific institutions. And what I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "worried about with this, and this is why"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "I'm asking people to contact Stanford"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "University and Jenome Research in Cold"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Spring Harbor, which Cold Spring Harbor"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "is the facility and institution that"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Watson and Crick founded to where they"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "discovered"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "and and the DNA molecule and and and"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "expressed their deep concern over the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "possibility that the peer review process"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "broke down, that this then made it into"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "the global media and that the"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "conclusions that are in the paper uh"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "there there's a scientist in the LA"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Times uh who who openly questions the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the conclusions. He says this is Dr."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Matthew Warman, an expert on skeletal"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "genetic disorders at Boston Children's"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "uh hospital and Harvard, cautioned that"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "although the researchers identified"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "known and novel genetic variants, they"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "are far from knowing what role, if any,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "they played in AA's many abnormalities."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "It's possible the genetic variants"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "identified in the new research could be"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "responsible for one or more uh of these"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "events. But if he were advising A's"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "bererieved parents or immediate"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "relatives on her genetic condition and"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "told them about their risk, I would be"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "very cautious to use any of the data"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "presented in this paper to draw any"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "conclusions."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Now, this is one of the renown this is"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "in the LA Times."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Those of you,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "if you can read, for God's sakes, read"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "this. Here's my point. I'm trying to"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "rest what we're doing on truthtelling"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "and facts. Fact."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "The world's expert in skeletal"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "abnormality said it's 68 years old."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Fact. The radiologists have said that it"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "could not be a fetus because of the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "density of the bone material. Fact. Dr."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Nolan himself thought it was something"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "extraordinary until two unconfirmed"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "reports of federal agents approached him"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "and he changed his tune 180°. Fact,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "there were no controls done for this"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "study which this worldrenowned"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "geneticist has said would have rendered"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "it thrown back. If you were just doing"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "your PhD and didn't even have a chair,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the Harris chair at Stanford, the paper"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "would have rejected with a zero grade,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "he said, because there were no controls"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "done on the study and that the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "conclusions were based on cherry-picking"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "sequencing that is almost certainly the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "result of oxidation and damage to the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "genetic material. And then on top of it"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "to say there were that many major"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "genetic syndromes in one"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "concept in one fetus. It would he said"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "then that amount of genetic damage would"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "have resulted in an its inability to"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "even divide once as an embryo. In other"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "words to go from a single cell zygote"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "into an embryo. it couldn't have even"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "been divided, never mind uh uh"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "miscarried or born. So none of this adds"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "up. And so the only conclusion you can"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "reach is and he say stated this to me."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "It's the level of incompetence of the"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "science scientific data is so great that"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "you have to conclude one of two things."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Either a big trick is being played or"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "there is massive scientific"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "incompetence. Either way, this is a"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "major major story. We need to get to the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "bottom line. I am calling as the head of"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "the global disclosure movement and a"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "medical doctor myself and a scientist, I"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "am calling for a major federal and state"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "investigation"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "of Stanford University, UCSF, Cold"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Spring Harbor, and Jome Research"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "magazine and their peer reviews process."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "And I am asking all other scientists who"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "have the ability to review this paper"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "objectively and the data objectively and"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "to review the paper that was published"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "in 2006 that is settled science about"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "how much DNA degrades and falls apart"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "falls apart with it when it's in the"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "environment to to get on involved with"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "this because I do not have a PhD in"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "genetics and the way this is going to"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "rest right now to answer your question"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "is that my opinion is not going to be"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "reported. I had the Washington Post and"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "National Geographic magazine both"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "interview me about this report. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "explained all these problems to them."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Not a single word of what I said"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "appeared in the media. Not one word"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "except on your show. Thank you, Carol."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "that you are the only person that has"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "allowed me to explain what our"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "objections are to what could be one of"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "the biggest scientific mishaps in"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "history because we're not dealing with"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "oh well you know they they mis cued"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "something on an unknown primate. This"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "could be a huge story that we were"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "hoping could have broken wide open the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "possibility that we're not alone in the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "universe and there are other species of"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "humanlike creatures"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "and the fact that there is this Russian"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "now we need help from Russians to get"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "the this specimen that was a a big one."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "It was like this large. It was it was a"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "full grown. it it was not uh it it was"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "bigger than you would had in even a a"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "newborn baby. And yet the state examiner"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "in Russia debunked it and said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "it's uh it was an aborted fetus girl.\""}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Again, interesting. They're all aborted"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "fetus girls. What is this? I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "the thing that was said in 96 and the"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "and what was said in 2018 are the same"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "cover story. It makes no sense. But I"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "think the idea for it being an aborted"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "fetus girl came from somebody who knew"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "how the trick was played by these black"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "projects in Russia. Because remember,"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "there are unagnowledged special access"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "projects in the US and Russia that are"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "hand and glove that work together. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "global. And there are scientists in in"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Russia that are victims. There are"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "politicians who are victims just like"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "there are in the United States. And this"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "gets into the whole question of we've"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "got to have disclosure and a full"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "investigation of this corruption, not"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "just here in the United States, but all"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "over the world. This is happening all"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "over the world. And it and one of the"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "things that uh we need to I want to"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "share is an email I got from one of the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "most senior CIA people in the history of"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "the UFO subject. I do not want to share"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "his name because he's still actively"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "involved behind the scenes assisting us."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "This is one of the reasons I'm still"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "alive. I won't go into it any more than"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "that. This is one of the reasons I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "still I have not been successfully"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "assassinated."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "And he wrote to me about this group on"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "December 31st, this to the stars academy"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "group. And his first email was very"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "sweet because he said, \"I hope you have"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "not been negatively impacted by TTSA. I"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "anticipate it will dissipate soon."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "That was on December 30th of 2017."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "And then he said when I wrote back, no,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "I'm doing fine. I was I I was expecting"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "this. This is why I did the movie"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Unagnowledged. And the reason I did the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "book unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "was because we wanted to have"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "this information in the public before"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "they started running their scams because"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "I knew it was coming. Because what they"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "were doing is that they were going to"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "start doing a fake disclosure that"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "portrayed the aliens as a threat that"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "would then create the foundation for war"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "in space and World War II, which in"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "1955, if you read uh Douglas MacArthur's"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "uh speech, he said World War II will be"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "interplanetary, that we need to unite"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "the nations of the world. Ronald Reagan"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "said we need we can unite the world"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "around an alien threat. This has been"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "worked on for 70 years. They have had a"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "60 to 70year plan, long-term plan to"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "play play the fake alien threat card."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "And we're seeing it before our very"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "eyes. You and I have talked about this"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "for for two decades. But they would this"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "literally we're watching this play out"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "before our very eyes. So here is this"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "email that I get the next day. He says,"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "\"I'm glad to hear all is fine, Steve. I"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "have watched that rat pack, referring to"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "these people that I named on the TTSA"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "group. I have watched that rat pack run"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "scams against the US government, loony"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "billionaires, referring to Bigalow, and"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "now the average citizens. Keep up the"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "good work."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "I've been studying this subject for over"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "35 years. This is one of the most senior"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "people in the CIA on the committee"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "dealing with UFOs and ETSs. Literally,"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "this man whose name I will not disclose"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "at this point while I'm still alive was"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "the man who after I briefed the director"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "of the CIA for Bill Clinton was asked to"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "go into the Oval Office to clean up the"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "mess when it was found that this subject"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "was real and that the president and the"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "CIA director at that time was being lied"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "to about it. So this is the man who"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "literally has an all access pass. And"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> heavens for people like this because"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "even experts that we know, ministers of"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "defense and other countries that we know"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "and are friends with have been sucked"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "into this evil alien supposed scenario"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "that's just not true or we wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "here, Doug. So thank you for getting"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "this information out into the people who"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "are making contact with you and I hope"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "more and more will because as we're"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "hearing they're safe. their names are"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "not going to be brought out so that the"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "people can be protected who are coming"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "forward unless they want their names to"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "come out."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": ">> Now, one of the other interesting things"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "about this is that if you could if we"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "can get more scientists to go on the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "record, you were mentioning some that"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "are contacting you from Bolivia and"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "study the details of this scientific"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "report. It's going to be a house of"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "cards because"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "I I think the man that I have been"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "getting all this great information from"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "who"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "is very famous doesn't want to be"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "associated with the scientific scandal"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "like this. But we need people who will"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "be associated with it because it's hard"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "to take on Jome Research magazine which"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "is the premier peer-reviewed magazine in"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "the world. It's hard to take on Stanford"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "University. It's hard to take on the"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "federal government, but this is what I"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "have been doing for, as you know, 28"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "years. It's a very lonely place. I need"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "help. I'm making a call for other"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "scientists to come and please help us"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "with this process. Um, and I think that"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "one of the things that we we find"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "is that when you look at the data that"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "was put forward by Dr. Nolan's team and"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "then pass through to this ridiculous"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "journal article which should have been"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "returned from the peer reviewers with a"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "zero grade."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "You find that there is"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "we we have to we have to find out and"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "I'm I'm not I don't I want to be"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "careful. I'm not going to say that there"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "was deliberate fraud here but there was"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "certainly many errors. There was errors"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "in the analysis. there was lack of"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "controls done. One of the controls he"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "talked about doing would have been"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "before you did any of the other"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "sequencing of the DNA is to do a very"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "simple direct test of how many errors"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "there are in the base pairs of the"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "genetics meaning how many cytosine"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "switched over to addis or what have C to"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "A and T and what have you. If you look"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "at the molecule, he says there are very"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "inexpensive"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "electrofpharesis"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "and uh gel studies that can be done that"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "any competent lab would have done."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Instead, what they did, they used a"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "computer program that does it indirectly"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "that was able that you can then fudge"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "the numbers to show that there's less"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "damage. He's saying this would be an"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "easy thing to do. But now I all this"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "genetic material went to Stanford and"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "how are we going to fix this? How am I"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "going to fix this problem? So we have to"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "have people who are going to go in and"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "say look the the the conclusions that"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "are reached and the methodology used is"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "not correct. Now the there needs to then"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "be I think a criminal investigation. And"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "I'm going to go out on a limb here, but"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "I think there needs to be a criminal"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "investigation into the peerreview"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "process of Cold Spring Harbor's Genome"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "Research Magazine, Stanford University,"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "and UCSF. And the reason I do is that"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "this preeminent scientist has said there"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "is simply no way that any competent"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "scientist would make these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "errors. And there's no way that a"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "journal should have let this get"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "published. And then because of the"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "prestige, the prestigious nature of the"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "journal and the prestigious nature of"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "Stanford, it got worldwide news which"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "has now submarined completely torpedoed"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "what we're trying to do with the"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "disclosure project. This is something we"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "also need to assemble a legal team. So"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "if there are any people out there who"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "are investigators, who are competent"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "litigators, who are pro who and any"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "federal authorities, FBI, uh, and"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "National Institutes of Health"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "investigators because much of the"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "funding that goes to Cold Spring Harbor"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "and Stanford is from NIH. Our tax money,"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "our tax money is paying for this. And I"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "think the public should be outraged in"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "America that this report made its way"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "into this prestigious journal and"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "institution that is being funded by"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "grants from me and you taxpayers and"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "also Stanford. Much of that research is"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "done at these universities is coming"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "from the US taxpayers from the US"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "government. Much of it. Most of it. and"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "to have something like this happen where"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "one of the most prestigious scientists"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "in the world on in the DNA area with a"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "PhD from Caltech stated to me now I"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "can't make this conclusion this is his"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "statements that this is a trick this is"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "pulling a rabbit out of a black hat"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "there is no foundation for his"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "conclusions at all but this scientist"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "from Harvard who was saying that you"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "can't reach these conclusions"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Because anyone who does ancient DNA"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "research, let me just back this up."}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "Let's say that you're a specialist in"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "archaeology,"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "you might be able to determine whether"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "something's male or female, maybe from"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "the old degraded DNA. You would never"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "claim you have seven new genetic"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "syndromes, never before seen in"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "combination in the world that would"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "result in this phenotype. phenotype"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "meaning the physical expressed form of"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "the genetic code. No one. Nobody in"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "archaeology genetics, no one in ancient"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "genetics, no one with competent"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "scientific credentials. And trust me,"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "the people who were doing this at"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "Stanford,"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "Dr. Nolan and his colleagues are very"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "competent. So"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "how can you you can't say well there's"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "complete incompetence because the people"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "are competent. There has to be an"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "element of something very dark going on"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "here. Possibly. I say possibly."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": ">> So you're saying that ancient DNA can"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "not be used to extrapolate genetic"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "conclusions"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": ">> to a living organism to an organism that"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "was a living organism. It cannot be"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "done. That's what that paper in 2006"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "stated. And that you might be able to to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "speculate, but you couldn't reach hard"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "conclusions. You might be able to say"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "maybe"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "this alteration is a mutation that"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "occurred naturally, but it might have"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "been just because the DNA decayed, was"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "falling apart, sitting out in the desert"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "for over a hundred years. The point I'm"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "making is that no competent scientist"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "would have reached those conclusions,"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "who has a passing superficial knowledge"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "of ancient DNA that's been degraded. But"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "at the same time, very interestingly, a"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "very inexpensive test that should have"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "been done at the first part part of the"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "research, which would have been the"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "control, would have uncovered how much"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "of that DNA they were sequencing had"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "damage in it."}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "Oddly, that wasn't published."}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "And yet, the I think it might have been"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "done initially because the first emails"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "I got from Dr. Nolan were that it was"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "only 91% matching to humans. Now he's"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "claiming it's 98% but that's through"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "this indirect measurement not a direct"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "measurement. So has there been"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "manipulation of the methodology and the"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "statistics and the bioinformatics?"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "All of this is suspect. It's all very"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "suspect and there needs to be a full"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "investigation by people who have"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "competency in these areas which frankly"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "I am a clinical medical doctor. Now,"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "what I do have competency on is to say"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "this is 6 to 8 years old. Now, he's"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "claiming that it was in the womb as a"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "fetus and that this progeria gene caused"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "it to age as if it looked 6 to 8 years"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "of age while it was still a fetus. Well,"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "this is nonsensical because the bone"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "density would not have been there at"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "that level and that this combination of"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "progeria isn't"}]

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I'm I'm not wanting to get"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "too technical here because I know we're"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "talking not to a scientific uh public,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "but a general public, but just imagine"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "that something's been laying around for"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "over a hundred years with the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "environment decaying it. And then a"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "group of scientists at Stanford and UCSF"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "take it and say, \"Voila, we have found"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "seven never before seen combined bone"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "syndromes that resulted in this unusual"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "uh creature that looks nothing like a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "human being.\" And that's what they did."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "That's what they did. And it gets more"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "complicated than that, but I don't want"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "to bore you. They basically took over a"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "million places where there were these"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "changes from the degradation, picked"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "60some of them and had on places that"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "would explain bone deformity and claimed"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "that those were new, neverbeforeseen"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "syndromes. Now this leap of conclusion"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "that's in the article which went"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "worldwide with the help of the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "intelligence community, I'm going to get"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "to this in a moment. So that was on the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "front pages everywhere completely"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "submarined the idea that this could be"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "an unusual new species or specimen."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Notwithstanding the fact that Nolan and"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "his colleagues knew about the Russian"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "one. Notwithstanding the fact that Dr."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Nolan himself told me that he knew that"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "DNA that had been degraded out in the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "environment would have problems in terms"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "of reaching these conclusions. And in"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "one email he says he would not reach"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "those conclusions. Um in fact in an"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "email dated on December 30th of 2013"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "um this on in this email"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "he states that"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "the chances these genes would come up by"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "chance meaning a mutation are"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "infinitesimal."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Infinitesimal."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "I'm quoting."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Well, what happened?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Well, the next thing we know,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "he is not at all talking. He he he cuts"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "off communication with us,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "and I'm the principal investigator who"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "supplied him this sample and spent tens"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "of thousands of dollars to take a whole"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "research team over to Barcelona to get"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the CAT scans, the X-rays, the sample,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "etc., and so on."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "and he ends up joining up with this"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "group, this T to the stars academy group"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "of Tom Dong. We'll get to this in a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "minute. And they facilitate the global"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "fake disclosure"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "that this is suddenly"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "not couldn't possibly ET related that"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "the case is closed. It's a deformed"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "human fetus. Here's the problem with all"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "of this is that the research paper he"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "put out is so dense and unless you have"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "a PhD in genetics, you're not going to"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "understand it. That's the first thing."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Secondly, it appeared and got through"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "the peer review of genome research."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Everyone listening needs to"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "contact Dr. Susman, Susan,"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and she is the editor of genome research"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "and point out that this paper according"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "to the top geneticists in the world"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "should have never made it through peer"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "review. Period. Full stop. It would have"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "gotten a zero rating is what he has"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "stated. Number three, that they"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "cherrypicked."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "It's sort of like Dick Cheney"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "cherrypicking the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "uh to put Colin Powell in front of the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "UN to say, \"See, he has weapons of mass"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "destruction. Let's go in there and have"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "a$2 trillion dollar war that kills"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "hundreds of thousands of people.\" This"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "is the scientific equivalent of what"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Dick Cheney did in in terms of data, but"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "because of people's respect for that"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "journal and the fact that the corruption"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "between the media and the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "community facilitated this obscure"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "report on this obscure case being"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "headline front page news worldwide. The"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "whole world thinks the case is closed"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "when my friends the case isn't even"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "begun because there's another case that"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "has to be done. We are calling for a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "full investigation"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "of Stanford, UCSF, Cold Spring Harbor"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "and Genome Research magazine. The"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "process of how this made it through peer"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "review when this top global scientist"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "has said absolutely it should never have"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "made been published. and also how was"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the data manipulated. Now last night I"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "received another report"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "uh that where he said that in talking to"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "10 different molecular biologists and"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "geneticists not a single one thought the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "paper had any credibility. Now I am a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "medical doctor. I am not a PhD"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "geneticist. So I am relying on these"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "other experts but these other experts"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "are saying this is completely without"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "merit. Now, how does something without"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "merit make its way into one of the most,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "if not the most prestigious genetics"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "research magazine on earth? How does"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "that then become front page news on the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "New York Times and CNN? I think we need"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "a full investigation for the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "possibility, now we can't prove this, of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "some kind of deliberate act of"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "corruption. And if the process in"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "academia on this has been corrupted, we"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "are in very big trouble on this planet."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Because what that means is that the the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "tricks that were being done in the 50s"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "and 60s which we'll get to in a moment"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "where the CIA and we can prove this"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "because we have documents under FOYA"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "request freedom of information act where"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "the CIA deliberately"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "has"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "gone in to academic institutions put"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "people under some duress for some reason"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "and forced them to say and do things to"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "change the scientific opinion. Let me"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "give you one very famous example."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Probably everyone listening knows about"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "project blue book. Project blue book was"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the kind of wind dressing research end"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "of the air force in the United States"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "looking into UFOs. The real action was"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "going on in unnowledged special access"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "projects which we expose in this book."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "If you haven't read this book, you must"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "get it. We are actually because of this"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "emergency that's happened, we're putting"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "this available for anyone to get it half"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "off on our website at"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "seriousdisclosure.com."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "And if you get the DVD that goes with"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "this, you can get this for free. So, you"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "need to go and get it and read it and"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "study it. We don't have time to go"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "through all of that here today. We have"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "so much material to cover. But in 1969,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "the uh condant the air force pretended"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "to have an objective study of UFOs done"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "where it was predetermined that the UFOs"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "were not real. Uh and the head of the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "committee was a professor condan at the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "University of Colorado in Boulder. He"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "was a renowned scientific figure. He"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "assembled a lot of other very renowned"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "scientific figures that he but he made"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "one mistake. He got one honest scientist"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "on his team named Dr. Robert Woods. Let"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "me tell you what happened and this is in"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the disclosure material and you must"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "read this. Dr. Woods was a senior"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "research aerospace scientist at McDonald"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Douglas Aerospace"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "which became part of of Boeing a few"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "years ago. But at that time um and he"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "worked with and knew uh old man McDonald"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "personally, Mr. McDonald and he worked"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "together. Um but he so he was on this"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Condan committee and the Condan"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "committee when he started bringing hard"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "evidence of the facts and the truth"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "the professor Condan personally went to"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the head of McDonald Douglas Aerospace,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Mr. McDonald to get Dr. Woods fired."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "and and get him not only all thrown off"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "the committee, condoming committee, but"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "fired from McDonald Douglas because Dr."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Woods had such integrity. He was saying,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "\"No, these are legitimate cases. Here"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "are actual photographs. Here are actual"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "videos. Here's actually places where"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "these have landed. Here are government"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "documents.\" And he was doing what I was,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "you know, this is sort of 50 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "of course, but"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "and luckily"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "old man McDonald was quite fond of"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Dr. Woods and said, \"No, I'm not going"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "to fire you.\" And he kept him on. But"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Dr. Woods was thrown off the committee."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "The next thing you know, this fake"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "committee headed up by Dr. Woods issues"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "a report saying there's no the UFOs"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "aren't real. There's no reason for the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "government to study it. Let's close"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Project Blue Book. And they use that"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "report to close any government official"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "publicly overseen investigation of UFOs."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "What I'm telling you is fact. I then"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "after I personally briefed the director"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "of the CIA, James Wolsey, I put in a"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "foyer request and I got documents about"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "the Condan committee. And in these CIA"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "documents, it explicitly says that Dr."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Condan was working for them, was an"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "asset of the CIA, and that this had to"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "be kept away from the public knowledge"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "because if it was known, it would be"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "create a public scandal."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Now what I am sharing with you here is"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "not in debate. This is proven through"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "foyer requests. These are official"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "government documents, not ones that have"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "a questionable provenance or that"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "someone forged them. These were"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "officially released. I have them in my"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "archive. The the question becomes and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "this is I'm reason this is a question."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "We can't prove this yet. Is this what"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "we're witnessing, Carol, in front of our"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "very eyes this past week or two that we"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "have another situation of unbelievable"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "government uh and collusion and"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "corruption with academia resulting in"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "what has happened to this poor Atakama"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "skeleton."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> Dr. Greg, I I just want to mention this"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "is what you have brought attention to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "that ties in with what I've been"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "focusing on too. The US space command"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "now the whole purpose of this secrecy as"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "you call it the hoax as von Brown called"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "it the last card. Yep."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> Is about and it says it in vision 2020."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "This is another document that you have."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "The space dimension of military"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "operations is actually being designed to"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "quote protect US interest and"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "investment. Integrating space forces and"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "now we're hearing space forces. The"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "space command being turned into space"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "forces into quote warfighting"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "capabilities across the full spectrum of"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "conflict. And that's what you're leading"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "this into."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> Yes. And and here and and this is where"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "I'm going to connect the dots over the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "course of this two-hour show. I I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "trying to be methodical in what I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "presenting here. There is something very"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "strange that happened and and at a"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "certain point we got we got an email"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "from the director of uh"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "and this was actually on the blog of the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "director of Sirius and I'm going to to"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "from uh Kica and about and and he said"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "states he says Gary Nolan Dr. Nolan was"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "visited by agents from some form, this"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "is not me saying this, this is Ka from"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "some form of federal level. He told me"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "on the record on a phone call"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "uh which federal uh investigators most"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "likely now have in their possession."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Afterwards, he reversed his findings."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Now he's working directly with former"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "CIA and NASA experts in the UFO field on"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "a multi-million dollar project."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Now this was posted March 23rd, 2018,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "the day after this journal report"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "appeared. Um there's some"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": ">> the anniversary of the introduction of"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "the strategic defense initiative"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "space-based weapons program. Correct."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "March 23rd."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> Correct. Correct. Now, I want to connect"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "another dot. And this I'm bringing this"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "up. I I'm wanting to be careful here for"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "for legal reasons. I have a very trusted"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "member of my team who has been been with"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "me for a couple years who also works"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "with senior military officials in India"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "and up to and including the the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "president, the prime minister."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "He had a meeting with Tristan Harris."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Tristan Harris is the who I have also"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "met with. Tristan Harris is the uh"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Harris as the Harris chair. He's the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "head of that trust that endows Dr."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Nolan's chair at Stanford University."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "And Tristan Harris in his conversations"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "with my colleague stated that the reason"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "they had to change the story on this was"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "that there was too much uh pressure,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "that it was too explosive, that they"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "were afraid."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "And what my associate said is that it"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "was quite clear there had been some sort"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "of threat or inducement to cause them to"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "to not want to say what this skeleton,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "which anyone who wants to go on our"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "website and look at it will who is a"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "doctor uh or even a lay person will"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "conclude certainly is not a human uh"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "will will say. And apparently this was"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "of such great concern my this contact"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "flew all the way from San Francisco"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "after his meeting with Tristan Harris"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "whose whose whose trust is endowing the"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Harris chair that Dr. Nolan occupies at"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "at Stanford and comes back to meet with"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "me in Washington to say something's very"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "wrong here. And now this was about a"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "year ago or so before this report came"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "out. The next thing I know which is very"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "concern concerning to me, I get"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "something from uh John Rapaort."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "And John Rapaort is an investigative"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "reporter who was drilling down on this"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "uh strange little group known as the To"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "the Stars Academy."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "um that uh uh there's an aging rock star"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "named Tom Dong who who sort of headed it"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "up, but he has apparently become someone"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "manipulated by many of these people in"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "the intelligence community. And this"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "report goes through who's who these"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "folks are. Now, let me just give and and"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "now we've learned that this Dr. Nolan,"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Gary Nolan at Stanford is a member of"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "this team. One of them is a guy named"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Louise Alzando. He was the Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "chief of a secret program from 2007 to"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "2012 to study and explore UFO activity."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Um, of course, it was all couched as a"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "threat and it was funded in part by uh"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the Pentagon, our tax dollars. It was"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "$22 million that then went to Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Aerospace, some of it. And he, this"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "particular person, Alzando, we did a a"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "research on him, a Senator John Warner,"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "who had has been a member of the cabal"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "keeping this secret. He's now retired."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "He's 90 years old. His son told me that"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "one of his closest friends who just"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "retired from the Office of Naval"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "Intelligence, stated that Alzando was"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "the master counterintelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "disinformation person he had ever seen"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "at the Pentagon. and he is the person in"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "the center of this to the stars academy"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "group. Just giving you the facts. So I"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "think what we need to do is stick with"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "the facts here. Now there's another man"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Jim Simean. He's from the CIA"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Directorate of Operations for 25 years."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "Dr. How put off has been working with"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "the National Security Agency, General"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Electric Sperry, Stanford University,"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "interestingly, and SRRI International"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "and regularly advises NASA and the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Department of Defense and the"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "intelligence communities."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "uh Chris Melon. He served 20 years in"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "the federal government, deputy assistant"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "secretary of defense for intelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "and interestingly is a descendant of"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "Paul Melon who along with Allen Dulles"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "founded the CIA. More about this later."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Uh Norm Khan, who is has a 30-year"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "history with with CIA. And then you get"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "down to the second page of his report,"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Dr. Gary Nolan and uh of the Ratchford"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "and Carlaua A. Harris, professor in the"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "department of microbiology and"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "immunology at the at the school of"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "medicine at Stanford. And it goes on and"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "on and on and on and on very worrisome"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "because you'll know them by the company"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "they keep. And what I'm saying here is"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "there is this at the time that we handed"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "off this precious one of a kind, we'll"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "never get a sample like this again of"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "the bone marrow of this skeleton, the"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "atakama humanoid to Dr. Nolan. He was"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "enthusiastic. He reported to his top"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "geneticist that there were amazing"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "findings that 90% of the DNA didn't"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "match to humans, which is much much less"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "than a chimpanzee or or a gorilla. And"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "the next thing you know, he's on this"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "advisory group chock full of counter"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "inelligence spooks, CIA people, Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "people. And then all of a sudden, after"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "five and a half years of of of a delay,"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "this report goes into the world's most"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "prestigious genetics journal and gets"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "headline news all over the the place"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "saying, \"Case closed. There's nothing to"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "this. This smells like the Condan"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "Committee. It feels like the Robertson"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "panel. Now, what was the Robertson"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "panel? A little bit of history. In the"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "50s, we have documents, a whole sheath"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "of documents from the foyer requests"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "from the CIA that we did that described"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "the Robertson panel being a 1950s"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "iteration of this process where they"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "talked about engaging scientists to hoax"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "UFO events and photograph them, later"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "come out and prove they were a hoax, but"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "make them look like actual UFO pictures"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "and things that are being reported by"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "the public. Now this is not a contested"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "document either. So this kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "corruption of academia and then"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "collusion with big mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "outlets which as you know from the air"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "force intelligence officers reporting"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "in the movie and the book unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "states very clearly that this"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "they used to carry bags of cash. I'm"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "quoting that Richard Dudy said point"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "blank we would carry bags of cash to"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "affect the outcome of a story or to get"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "the cooperation of the these editors and"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "national security correspondents at the"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "national media in the United States. So"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "there is no question that the media has"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "been corrupted by the these illegal"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "unagnowledged special access programs"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "and that the fourth estate is dead. Some"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "years ago in the 1990s, I met with uh a"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "guy named Bob Schwarz. He was on the"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "board of Time Life magazine. And he said"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "to me, he says, \"Dr. Greer, we have"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "become scribes taking dictation from the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "right hand of the king, that we"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "absolutely have no independence when it"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "comes to something this explosive, and"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "that the the fourth estate, the press,"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "is dead on this. And they will only"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "report what the intelligence community"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "tells them to report.\" And that is what"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "everyone listening know needs to know is"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "what's happening in real time in front"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "of our very eyes. So you don't have to"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "go back 60 years to the 50s or 50 years"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "to the 60s. This is happening in front"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "of our very eyes today. So that's why I"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "wanted to be on your show to give you"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "this big picture of what's actually"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "going on. Now, I also have a document"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "that's called uh I it's in a article on"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "our website called Media Play from the"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "CIA. And I'll hold this up. This is an"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "official document from 1991."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "I hope you can see it."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "And they have some things blackened out"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "on it like the spooks always do. But one"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "of the interesting things it says it"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "says we have relationships with"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "reporters from every underline their"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "emphasis major wire service newspapers,"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "news weeklies and television networks in"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "the nation. This is the United States"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "from the CIA. This has helped us to turn"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "intelligence failure stories into"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "success stories and has contributed"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "um in many instances we have persuaded"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "reporters to postpone, change, hold or"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "even scrap stories that could have"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "adversely affected"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "what they wanted the public to know. So"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "this is this is what's more interesting"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "and app propose to today"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "is there's also somewhere in here the"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "uh one there's one that has the same"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "thing it says about academia this is"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "under B in this same CIA document I held"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "up current program the agency meaning"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "the CIA has a wide range of contacts"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "with AC academics"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "through recruiting professional science"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "societies,"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "excuse me, contractual arrangements and"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "OTE."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "We have recently been designated the"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "focal point for all information about"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "CIA's relations with the academic"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "community and that we're engaged in"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "recruiting scholars and residents etc."}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "This this is very concerning. This paper"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "states point blank, we're corrupting"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "academia."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "Now, just so you know, it is illegal for"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "the CIA to do anything in the United"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "States. That would be the FBI's domain."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "And here we have documents talking about"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "the corruption in the media and"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "academia. And in this case, this this"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "poor little Adacama humanoid case, we"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "we have"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "a a headline news all over the world."}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "Here's the LA Times"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "saying, \"Case closed. This 6-year-old"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "6-in creature is in fact"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "a fetus that we aborted. This is"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "unbelievable scientific misconduct."}]

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Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "but we really weren't given access to it"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "medically until uh about 2012."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "And in September 2012, I um the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "principal investigator on this project"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "who went over there and with some"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "assistance um we got some uh cat scans,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "x-rays uh which we will also show you um"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "uh well we can't show the cat we can't"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "show those here but we have them on our"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "website at seriusdisclosure.com."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "So, if you want to see those, you just"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "go to seriousisclosure.com"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "and look under the evidence part and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "you'll see there's a whole section of of"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "the cat scans and x-rays and photographs"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "of this little being. So, you can look"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "at those as we're speaking today. What"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "happened is that we wanted to get some"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "studies on the DNA. So, we we clipped"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "the anterior right lateral ribs, which"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "by the way, this little being has 10"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "ribs instead of 12, which is unusual. It"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "has four skull bones instead of six like"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "humans have. Uh, all kinds of anomalies"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "with the skeletal structure. Just so you"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "know, it also has some fascia or"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "connective tissue that had dried out. It"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "was very desiccated."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "and it had dried out, but you could"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "still see where there was some"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "connective tissue uh cartilagynous type"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "material uh in the skull. We were able"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "to extract some of the meninges, the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "lining of the brain and what have you."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "There's no question it's an actual"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "organism that had lived um out in the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "desert at some point and we simply"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "didn't know what it was. Now, for the"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "record,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "because it's been misrepresented in the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "New York Times in the last week, uh, in"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "March 22nd, this fraudulent report came"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "out, and I'll get to that in a moment,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "but it's been misrepresented that we"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "were calling it an alien. Uh, if you go"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "through everything that's in the serious"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "documentary and everything that I have"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "ever written and said, and we have a"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "YouTube video presentation on this"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "that's had 1 million views already. I"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "never called it an alien or an ET. I"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "said it's unusual and we do not know"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "what it is and we need to have it"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "investigated independently and"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "thoroughly. Well, around this time, uh,"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "a man named Gary Nolan, who is the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Harris chair professor at Stanford"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "University, uh, with a PhD and his focus"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "is immunology and genetics and what have"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "you. Uh, and he has dozens of postocs"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "who work under him. I've been in his lab"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "reached out and he had informed me that"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "he had had an ET contact experience"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "personally that Dr. Nolan had had"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "contact with ETSs and that he was very"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "interested in the subject and that he"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "would be happy to to be sort of an"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "honest broker to do the genetic work on"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "it. Many people in the last week have"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "said, \"How did you get mixed up with"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Stanford, which has SRRI and all these"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "other entities that are connected to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "covert government contracting? Didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "you know that they would submarine"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "this?\" I said, \"Well, I trusted"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Gary Nolan to do a good job because I"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "felt he was sincere and he had the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "credentials and he also had the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "equipment that's very very specialized"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "to do the genetic studies on this um"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "specimen which we knew was quite"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "unusual.\""}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Well, during this time period, um, but"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "we we of course I under forensic sterile"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "field, for example, like you would in"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "the emergency department in a rape kit"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "or a murder case or a stabbing or a"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "shooting, we took the evidence and did"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "it under forensic chain of command. It"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "never lost uh our came out from our"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "control and possession until it was"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "handed off to Dr. Nolan uh and Gary took"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "it then into his lab to do the genetic"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "research. He immediately was very"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "excited about what he found. He found"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "that there was almost 10% of the genetic"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "material not matching to humans. Now"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "people go well what does that mean? a"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "monkey. If you go to your zoo and go"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "look, go look at what a chimpanzee looks"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "like or a gorilla, they are 98 to 98 and"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "a half% identical to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "uh humans. So this becomes a very"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "strange now because that is a very low"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "percentage of matching because you know"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "I don't know I don't know the specifics"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "but a fruitfly has a large number of"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "their genes the same as humans uh etc"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "and so on. A guinea pig has a very large"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "number of genes the same as humans. So"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "for it to be less matching even if it"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "was even if it was 98% matching to a"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "human this would be very very unusual."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Um and so he said well this is something"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "very anomalous and he had shared this"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "information with a man who has asked to"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "be remain anonymous at this time because"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "of the academic scandal that this has"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "become. Now let me be very clear the man"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "that I am referring to I have checked"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "his bonafites."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "He is the one of the top geneticists in"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the world. He was asked to actually work"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "with Watson of Watson and Crick who who"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "discovered the DNA molecule"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "um at Cold Spring Harbor"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "uh in Long Island. And uh at one point"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "his own uh PhD supervisors were Nobel"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Prize winners. He has a PhD in genetics"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "from Caltech and literally invented the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "crystalallography of DNA and has done"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "pioneering research for decades and is a"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "a man of enormous stature in the DNA"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "field. He contacted me this past Sunday"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "morning and said this is an academic"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "scandal of the first order of magnitude."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "And uh just to give you an idea of of"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "how far off the paper which is in this"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "journal genome research"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "now this is one of the most prestigious"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "scientific journals in the world. this"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "paper"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "uh appeared"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "uh March 22nd."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Now that is a peerre journal. Now what"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "that means in America is that it's"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "supposed to have gone through the review"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "of people competent to examine the data"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "and also to reach any conclusions uh so"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "that it could be accepted or not"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "accepted. When I spoke to this uh"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "world-renowned geneticist, he said first"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "thing out of his mouth was any peer"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "review of this paper that Nolan had done"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "would have received a zero ranking, zero"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "grade because he did no controls. uh he"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "did no uh proper analysis"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "and it slipped through and got put in"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "this prestigious journal and now it's"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "been front page news in on the New York"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Times and CNN and BBC and every journal"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "in the world claiming that this is a"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "deformed human girl"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "uh that was an aborted fetus"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and that it had seven sudden magical"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "ical genes never known before that"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "caused the deformity."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Now, one of the things he wrote and this"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "we just received in the last hour"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "uh from this worldrenowned geneticist"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "and I want to read this. Nolan says that"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "the Chilean mummy has lots of random"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "chance mutations which affected seven"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "different genes for bone development all"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "at once. If such mutations were really"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "random, as he says, then practically"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "every other gene of similar DNA length"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "would have been mutated, meaning at"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "least one quarter to 1/2 of the 30,000"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "genes in the human genome. Quite"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "obviously, if this were the case, then"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "the fertilized embryo would never have"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "been able to divide even once."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Even an inherited single gene disorder,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "one gene mutated out of 30,000 can cause"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "serious developmental problems. Now,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "this is dispositive. This statement by"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "itself pretty much shows the complete"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "incompetence and error of this report"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "that has now gone all over the world"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "saying the case is closed on this."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Now, I think that this should be of"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "great concern. Even if you're not"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "interested in the UFO and ET issue, the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "corruption of scientific research and"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "the creation,"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "excuse me, of junk,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "the creation of junk science, which has"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "begun to come out through more and more"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "of these peer-review journals, has"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "become an epidemic. We have a paper"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "talking about this from the New Republic"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "um where it was an overview where it"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "said that 14 of the most important"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "referenced uh 14 of the 14 most"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "important reference medical papers in"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "recent times were never made their way"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "into peer-review journals and were"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "rejected while there were all these"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "others that were getting in that were"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "junk science. So there's something very"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "seriously wrong in general. But in this"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "case, the system broke down completely"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "at Cold Spring Harbor, the birthplace of"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Watson and Crick, where the DNA molecule"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "was uh first discovered uh and uh for"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "which of course it got the Nobel Prize"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "and their flagship journal genome"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "research. So this should be of concern"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "to any scientist listening and any lay"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "person listening needs to be very"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "worried about this. What does this mean"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "in terms of the veracity of of what we"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "consider truth coming out of academia"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "and scientific research."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Now somewhere in that period between"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "October of 2012 and 2013"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "uh Nolan did a before he had even done"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "all the research did a 180 turn degree"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "turn and by the time the serious film"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "came out with said to the public that it"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "was a deformed human that even before he"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "had run all the studies he had reached"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "his conclusion and this of course caused"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "the entire release of the film serious"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "to be not covered in the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "media. We had interviews lined up for"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "the view uh for Fox News and others and"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "but his statement alone pretty much"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "terminated the release of that film"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "serious which was part of the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "project effort and I wondered what in"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "the world is going on here. I knew"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "something terrible had happened. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "we'll get to this in a moment."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "So it's also important for people to"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "understand that at the same time"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "that I was we were researching this we"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "were getting the clinical data in. Now"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "what I mean by clinical data is"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Dr. Ralph uh"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Lachman who is"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "a professor at Stanford"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "was asked to do"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "research on this as a medical doctor"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "who's taking care of of many of the uh"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "syndromes we're talking about and"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Dr. Lochman's report, which is also on"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "the website. I'm not seeming to be able"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "to find it here where I thought it might"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "be. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "but his report"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "very clearly stated that"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "this was a 6 to 8year-old child."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Now, what does that mean? It means a 6"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "to 8year-old child that's 6 in tall. Let"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "me repeat this and had been up walking"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "around. Anthropologists in Europe where"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "there was some remaining tissue on the"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "foot and heel had said that this was"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "also"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "a some sort of creature that had been up"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "and walking around."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Then"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "we find in this report from Gary Nolan"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that they're saying that it was a fetus"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "that was aborted that never touched the"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "earth and was never up and around. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "the report in the journal"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "shows"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "that this is, and I want to show an"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "X-ray, a picture of me holding up this"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "this creature."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "That's me holding up. And you can see"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the density of the bones."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "It's so tiny that the whole being can be"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "in what would normally be just a small"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "view of one bone."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "He also noted that all the different"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "abnormalities, the fact that it had four"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "skull bones instead of six, the fact"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "that it had only 10 ribs instead of 12,"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "and yet it was a perfectly symmetrical"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "being. It was not deformed. It was not"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "like you would if you go and Google uh"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "you know displaces of the bone and"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "deformations of the bone. It was"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "perfectly symmetrical."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "And so what we began to realize is that"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "this was a"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "global situation. Global meaning the"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "entire being was different from a human."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "And in his report, which I have here,"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "and you can see his signature,"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "I don't know if you can see all of it."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Uh and I don't expect you to be able to"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "read it, but what he says very clearly,"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "it has 10 ribs at 6 to 8 years of age."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "and that it is uh you know a genuine"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "specimen. In other words, this is not a"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "hoax or a model or something like that."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "So now this begins to be more and more"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "worrisome."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "the information began to pour in"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "clinically from around the world about"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "other creatures like this. And I shared"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "with Nolan that there was one found in"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Russia. This is why I wanted to do this"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "on your show. And the Russian"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "creature was"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "look at the back of the head of this one"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "was 1996"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "and it looked very much the same in"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "terms of its skeletal structur"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "structure. Here's one that shows the top"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "of the head almost like a helmet like"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "structure"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "that you can see and even to the point"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "that one part overlaps another and comes"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "to a little twist or a point."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "And this was noted to be so similar to"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "the Adacama humanoid that we had were"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "that we got the genetics on. Now the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "story behind this one was not only given"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "to Gary Nolan. One of his PhD or"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "posttock students found all the evidence"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "on the internet for it and remarked"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "about how much it looked the same and we"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "have that correspondence from Dr. Nolan"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "to uh to them. So when one of the things"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "you need to understand about this, it"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "says that the Russian one was eventually"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "uh taken by the FSB. We need help in"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Russia relocating this which had been"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "the KGB. But prior to that, it was found"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "it was had three genetics studies that"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "were done that showed that it did not"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "have human genetics. However, it was"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "later done by a state lab that declared"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "it was a female human"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "fetus. The same cover story as you see"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "in the Gary Nolan uh report that's in"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "the human genome. It's very curious."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "When I read this the other day, I"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "thought how strange that it started out"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "the same way and it ended up the same"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "way. It started out that people were"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "doing real research on the the Russian"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "creature and ended up being"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "a a just an ordinary human that had all"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "these deformities."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "the story behind that is that it's an"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "area of Russia where there are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "UFOs seen going in and out of the"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "mountains and those that area is noted"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "to be a hot spot and has been for"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "centuries of UFOs. Interestingly, where"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "the Atakama humanoid was found, I just"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "got this photograph from the Adakama"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "desert"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "uh is also an an area that's noted."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "I don't know if you can see the"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "photograph or not."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Can you see it,"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Carol?"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": ">> Yes, we can see it pretty well. And of"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "course, you'll have links to it, but"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "it's quite amazing."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> Yeah. And this is a daytime disc classic"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "over the Atakama desert. And so the"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "native peoples of that area had of both"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "Russia and the Chile. Now these are"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "separate continents, separate"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "hemispheres"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "have seen these UFOs and have seen these"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "small creatures which apparently are"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "just a little over a foot tall when"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "they're fully developed. The specimen"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "that we call Atta, the Attacama one was"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "apparently only uh a child of 6 to 8"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "years or the equivalent in human years"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "of 6 to 8 years. Look again at this the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "skull and the overlapping bone of the"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "one in Russia."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "And then if you go back and you look at"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "the skull structure if you're on our"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "website of the one that we have from the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Adakama desert"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "there's a remarkable and they both have"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "four skull bones whereas humans have"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "six."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Now Dr. Nolan had stated emphatically,"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "\"If there were two of these"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "anywhere in the world, it would rule out"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "a spontaneous mutation of a human"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "uh fetus that there's no way that you're"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "going to have two of these that are one"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "in a quadrillion chance.\" And yet he was"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "given all of this clinical data and"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "still came up with a genetic report that"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "has"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "been accepted by this peer-reviewed"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "journal that says the case is closed."}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "It's a deformed human Chilean girl that"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "was a fetus. Well, this geneticist who"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "has been doing this work with us has"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "and his remarks are somewhere um I will"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "get them in a minute. Um the geneticist"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "has stated that the"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "and I just want to emphasize some of"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "these uh points that he made"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "when he first contacted us."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "He says first of all Nolan's story has"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "changed completely since we first"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "discussed the early results. Um then he"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "was ecstatic that he had made one of the"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "big history-making discoveries"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "and despite his strong interest on that"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "day after that we never heard from him"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "If and he goes on to say, if this were"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "my data and I did the same analysis, my"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "first conclusion after seeing so many"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "mutations with coding regions, including"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "lots of mutations never before seen in"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "any medical database, this is critical,"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "would be to think most of all that such"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "mutations took place after the mom died."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "In other words, they are not mutations."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "They're damage to the DNA due to the 100"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "to 500 years of environmental exposure"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "which is unavoidable. I would venture to"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "say that the vast majority of molecular"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "biologists would consider that as a"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "primary hypothesis."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "Now, what Nolan and his colleagues did"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "next was quite surprising to say the"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "least. They chose to interpret all of"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "those many extensive mutations within"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "DNA coding regions as genetically"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "significant to the mummy while it was"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "still alive. If it were a fresh, modern,"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "undamaged sample, this might be"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "reasonable. However, for a sample which"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "has been moderately damaged to the"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "extent described, it is not a plausible"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "hypothesis. Now, what he is saying in"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "this, I'll translate this for you, is"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "that we have a paper from 2005 or 2006"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "that was published in a peer-reviewed"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "journal about what's called ancient DNA."}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "And just so you know, ancient DNA does"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "not mean a mummy from Egypt from 5,000"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "years ago. And this is the paper"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "it we have tweeted this out because this"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "is an emergency of the first order"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "magnitude of scientific problems."}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "And if you look at it the date, what"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "does the date say? 2005 was when it was"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "the research was done. It was released"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "in 2006 and published."}]

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And what you'll see is in"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "the very center is this pure"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "consciousness inner unbounded state that"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "is at the base line field consciousness"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "that is non-local omnipresent uh and"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "which has been scientifically shown to"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "be omnipresent non-local and this work"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that's been done by Dr. John at"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Princeton with the Princeton Engineering"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Anomalies Research Lab. Dean Raiden has"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "done a lot of pioneering work in"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "consciousness who's now here at NOEX"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Sciences. There has been a growing body"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "of science that shows that the conscious"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "field itself is not bound by space,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "time, brain wave activity, the body,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "etc. and so on. And in fact, can affect"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "mechanical systems. 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But just remember, it's an"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "aspect that's there in its fullness at"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "every point in space and time within all"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "space and time and matter and is not"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "bound. So it's a in a sense a paradox."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "It's omnipresent and unbounded and yet"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "it's present in its fullness at every"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "point in space and time and therefore"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "it's accessible at every point in space"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "and time. Does this make sense? Have I"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "lost people yet? I hope not. 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What we're now"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "finding in scientific research is these"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "are reproducible engineering studies"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "that can be done like Dr. John started"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "at the at the Princeton engineering"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "anomalies research lab and others have"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "done with biological systems uh Bruce"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Lipton and others but the key thing is"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "to understand it's don't make it"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "complicated because you're awake right"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "now if you're aware if you can become"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "aware of that awareness is sort of a zen"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "process to to subtract all the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "phenomenon of your thoughts your"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "perceptions your body it's like all not"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "this take remove all the ephemera, all"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the passing perceptions, thought, even"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "your individuality and just reflect on"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "the state of being, consciousness."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "That's all it is. 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And that's where"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "uh every blade of grass and every"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "grain of sand and every body and every"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "individual has its own tonality. music"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "essence that is more fundamental."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Although this sounds very abstract as a"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "thought essence that has tonality"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "associated with it that even precedes"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "so-called the body of light, the astral"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "body that you might experience in a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "lucid dream or an astral projection or a"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "near-death experience."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "We'll get to this in a moment."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "None of this is foreign because"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "everyone's experienced this at some"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "point in their life and or when you pass"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "away you will. So, uh I'm giving you a"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "glimpse of your future because none of"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "us make it out of this world alive."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Trust me as an emergency doctor. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "you may think you to"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "we're born, we live, and we pass on."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "But, so you'll experience that. Now many"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "do not experentially experience this"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "this and this"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "or the next one. This next phase let's"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "call it is the emanation of the pure"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "light form. It's been called mystically"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "the most great light and some would say"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "it would be the expressed aspect that"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "one could see of the creator being if"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "you will and the great light you see"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "when you pass away uh and have a"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "near-death experience. So that first"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "imination it's beautiful."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Um those of us who've how many people"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "had a near-death experience? I had a"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "very detailed one which we'll get into"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "if you wish. So that emanation of the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "pure light form"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "uh is"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "if you will correlary to the primal"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "thought, the essence of the primal"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "thought that has within it the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "complexity and tonality of an infinite"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "number of expressions."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "In a similar like way, all forms that"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "are visual are contained within the"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "emanation of that most pure light being"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "or poor that expression of the"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "unbounded."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Then you get into more specific"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "elaborations and expressions of that"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "state which would be for example the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "divine avatars that have been variously"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "identified through history whether it's"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Christ or Buddha Krishna etc. the"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "celestial realm angelic astral worlds of"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "light the afterlife and other"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "dimensions. Now, there are other"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "dimensions we'll get into in a moment"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "because that has a great deal to do with"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "what we're talking about today of"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "transdimensional interstellar"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "civilizations."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "Now, when you have"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "this, many people have experienced"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "something at this level where they've"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "had a lucid dream"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "where you're flying in the dream. How"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "many people had a flying lucid dream in"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "your life? Almost everybody. In reality,"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "that's your light body that's actually"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "going on a little trip. It's taking a"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "little journey. Now, most people think,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "\"Oh, I just had a dream.\" And most"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "dreams are just that. But the really"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "clear, lucid dreams, you're awake in the"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "dream, and often you'll be flying. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "beautiful. And you're actually utilizing"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "this body of light that has within it"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "your essence of your individuality, the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "thought expression. That's the sound"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "component of the thought. It's been"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "called lea vija in the Sanskrit. We'll"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "talk about this more later what lea vija"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "really is. And then from there the"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "expression"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "uh you can explore anywhere because"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "you're not bound by your physical body."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "You can go out in space, you can go over"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "the ocean, you can go under the ocean"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "and meet dolphins or you can go and see"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "an ancestor in the worlds of light, the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "astral."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "And all almost all humans have"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "experienced some aspect of this during"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "the dream state or a deep meditative"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "state or in the hypnogogic going in and"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "out of sleep between sleep and waking"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "states."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "That is interesting because I I like"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "telling this story. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "apocryphal, but it's interesting because"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "one time I took my my wife and I for our"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "anniversary. We're going to have our"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "39th anniversary next month. Hard to"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "believe,"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "39 freakish years being with me. Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "quite a journey. We uh yeah, we met 40"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "years ago"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "this past April in Israel."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "But I was introduced to her in a lucid"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "dream before I met her physically. You"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "all may know this story from Hidden"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Truth, Forbidden Knowledge, a book I"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "wrote about all that. But one time we"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "went to Costa Rica and we were at right"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "by the ocean. Beautiful Pacific coast, a"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "really beautiful area, pure nature,"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "which is why I wanted to do this up here"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "in nature. You have more of the positive"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "energy that's life supporting for"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "consciousness and thought. And so we"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "were we were sleeping and what she saw"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "she woke up and she's not at all"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "let's just say mystically inclined all"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "that much. Uh but she she woke up and"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "looked over and she saw sort of this"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "silvery grayish form sit up out of my"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "body and fly out the window."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "and she's laying there and we have four"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "little kids, four daughters and she's"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "there in bed thinking, \"Oh great, now"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "I'm in Costa Rica. Steve is dead of a"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "heart attack and I'm going to be a widow"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "and the kids are thousands of miles"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "away.\" Well, what I was experiencing is"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "that I went into this lucid dream state"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "and was flying over the coastline and"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "seeing everything as if it was daytime"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "but even clearer like a celestial aspect"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "of the earth. the beauty of the ocean"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "and the forest and of the life of Gaia."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "It was beautiful. And I was doing this."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "I was just having fun. And then I come"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "back and the the quote dream ends and I"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "feel someone's looking at me and I look"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "over and she's looking at me. She says,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "\"You're back.\" I said, \"Where have I"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "gone? I didn't go anywhere.\" She says,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "\"You did.\" And she described to me what"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "she saw. I said, \"Oh, no. I was just"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "having a lucid precog a fly flying"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "dream. No precognition in that one. But"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "that was just great example cuz it was a"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "witness to the launch, let's call it, of"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "the spirit body and it was just a normal"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "lucid flying dream for me. But she got"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "to actually see it although it was"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "disturbing because she thought I had"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "passed away. So you need to understand"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "that this is nothing. This is not beyond"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "the experience and the reach and the"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "knowledge of every sentient being on"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "earth and in the cosmos. Not just on"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "earth but universally. So in that sense"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "let's demystify it, own it and say this"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "is normal. This is a all of this is"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "folded within us and is normal. Now, an"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "extraordinary levels of of experience"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "might be an afterlife near-death"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "experience. And"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "okay, and an afterlife experience when"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "you've had a near-death I know when I"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "had mine uh in 1973,"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "you may know this story. I'll just share"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "it just cuz it's kind of funny. Well,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "not funny."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Shows you the kind of character I've"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "always been. and I'm 17. Uh I was raised"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "in a very poor family. Had my own"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "apartment in high school. Put myself"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "through high school, college, medical"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "school. And you know, since we have no"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "health care system in this country, I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "a medical doctor saying this. I was"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "poor, had no health insurance, and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "whatever, I got very sick. I injured my"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "left leg and being the jock that I was,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "bicycled 200 miles to the North Carolina"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "coast with this injury. It got terribly"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "infected and 200 miles back. So by the"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "time I get back I'm really sick and I"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "had sepsis which is bacterial infection"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "of the blood. I had a hepataren syndrome"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "where the kidneys and liver start"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "shutting down and your your urine looks"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "like Coca-Cola. Now I know all this now"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "as an emergency doctor at the time. I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "this 17-year-old kid going, \"Oh well,"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "whatever.\" You know how guys are. So I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "there with like 105 degree temperature"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "and then I code. I have a near-death"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "experience by myself in my little room"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "studio apartment I had in high school"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "and I launch."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "So my great love was always space and"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "the cosmos and I was raised a very"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "devout um atheist."}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "I the catechisms of atheism. There is no"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "afterlife. There is no great spirit."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "There is no soul. You have your physical"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "life. It's all intellect. If it's not in"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "a test tube, it doesn't exist. Full"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "stop. Which is the reductionist"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "materialist model. That's the dominant"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "paradigm in our society, at least in"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "academic respectable circles. Okay. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "I had this experience without any sort"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "of prediliction or religious training"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "where I was supposed to meet this angry"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "ogre known as God with a beard judging"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "you, you know, at the pearly gates with"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "all that. So none of that was in my"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "Thank God. And so I just go straight"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "into this state of uh cosmic"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "consciousness. I did not have I stripped"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "away even my astral body of light and I"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "was in this resonant tonality body the"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "causality just pure thought essence"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "without the form of my body. And during"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "that time I had a meeting with two what"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "have been called divine avatars uh you"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "know sort of the highest expressions of"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "the godhead and great spirit in space. I"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "was out amongst the cosmos and ended up"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "having this beautiful experience. Um,"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "experienced all this from the pure in"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "infinite consciousness all the way to"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "the whole cosmos and the experience that"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "I was that"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "that all of us are that that at that"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "deep level of experience"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "there is one being. were it we're all"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "one being and it was crystal clear was"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "not it was no intellectualization about"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "it was a direct experience now here I am"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "this kid I had no foundation for this"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "really um in my education or experience"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "we certainly was I wasn't raised in a"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "family with voodoo and crystals and"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "meditation and sars and head turbons and"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "ashrams and yogis or anything like that"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "I'm not making fun of those things I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "just saying I was a in the south in a"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "poor family didn't know anything about"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "this stuff and this happens which a way"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "was good because I was able to"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "experience it untrmelled by the"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "preconceived ideas some of which are"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "good and some of which are not so good."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "So it was this beautiful beautiful"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "experience and I I I literally"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "experienced every level of this from"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "unbounded mind to the entirety of the"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "infinity of cosmos. So that afterlife"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "experience which many people have had a"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "near-death experience depends on how far"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "it goes. I was out quite some time and"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "for some reason had the"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "uh adventuresomeness to go as far as you"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "could go in it until"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "there's a beautiful experience also with"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "these two points of pure consciousness"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "that were these divine avatar beings and"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "we sort of had a oneness experience and"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "a lot of interesting nonverbal"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "non-visual"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "packets of knowledge just sort of came"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "to me. It was just very spontaneous,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "like a stream. And I don't know how long"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "that lasted at the end of which it was"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "said to me, \"You need to either come"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "with us now or go back.\""}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "And I said, \"Well, I mean, let's see,"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "poverty, torture, illness, the earth,"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "this celestial level of experience.\" But"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "I I had enough presence of mind to say,"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "\"What is your will? Like, thy will be"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "done.\" And it was said very clearly,"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "\"We'd like for you to go back.\" To at"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "which point I was very depressed and it"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "was unhappy, but I did come back"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "otherwise I wouldn't be standing here."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "Right? So I came back"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "in my body and during that experience"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "was this the part of it the only part"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "that was scary is that I I sort of"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "awakened in consciousness in my body. I"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "had sensory input. I could hear I can I"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "could see I could see the the maple tree"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "out outside my window in front of the"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "street light moving shadows and I could"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "but I couldn't move. I was paralyzed. So"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "this was this post near-death brief"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "paralysis but I didn't understand it. I"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "thought oh great now I'm a quadriplegic"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "and I'm back."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "It turns out it took after a little"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "while my neural connections were made"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "and I was able to stand up and do"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "whatever. Interestingly this terrible"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "injury I have part of my left thigh"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "missing. It's a big indented area where"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "the muscle was eaten away. I never did"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "get antibiotics or treatment. I"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "spontaneously broke the fever and was"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "healed the next day. So after this"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "experience it was a spontaneous healing"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "also part of this. um I should have gone"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "to see a doctor but I didn't anyway the"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "universe took care of it and here we"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "are. So that's that experience. Many"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "many thousands, millions of people have"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "had near-death experience. There's a"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "huge body of research on it, which I'm"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "sure many of you are familiar with. And"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "and they're different experiences people"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "have, but that's something that is all"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "within us. Uh and we we experience in"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "different ways at the time that we leave"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "our physical bodies here."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "Now this is where it gets interesting"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "because it's this is where the most of"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "this is pretty well understood"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "historically from ancient teachings the"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "vdas sanskrit the various sutra this is"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "this is pretty well understood and has"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "been since the dawn of the human exist"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "existence on this planet"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "what's sounds new and which is going to"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "be a little more complex is How these"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "other dimensions and these finest"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "aspects of the astral and thought and"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "consciousness phase into the coarser"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "aspects of astral light consciousness"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "through the interface what I call the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "gap into linear 3D space-time matter"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "what is normally called the cosmos."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Now the cosmos as we see it and have"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "been had it told to us by astronomers"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "is only this this outer gray ring"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "space time galaxies this planet the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "material world etc. In reality,"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "all of this, every one of these D"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "aspects is folded within and present in"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "its fullness at every point of this and"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "vice versa. They're accessible. There's"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "no barrier to entry except our thought."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "It's the constructs of belief. It's the"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "constructs of thought. is the education,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "miseducation, lack of education that"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "makes us think it's all separate. You"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "know, Native American people thought it"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "was very strange when they first met"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "people from the west because they this"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "view of being separate from"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "the sky, father sky and mother earth and"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "all of this and what we called primitive"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "civilizations."}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "Most of these civilizations had an"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "understanding. It was articulated"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "differently perhaps from this but you"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "will find this is a universal"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "understanding whether it's the shamans"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "or the the aboriginals with dream time"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "or the ancient vadic teachers in in the"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Himalayas etc and so on. So all of that"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "is folded within every one of us and at"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "every point of spaceime but also every"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "intelligent being in the cosmos. This is"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "going to get important right here. But"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "we tend to be very narcissistic as a"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "people and this sort of self-referencing"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "this sort of anthropocentric projection"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "uh where we think we're the only thing"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "in the universe but also we're the only"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "beings that would have these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "experiences. In reality, any sentient"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "intelligent life form anywhere in"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "existence has all of this open to them"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "and within them and can be experienced"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "and eventually can be discovered"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "scientifically, which is what we're on"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "the verge of doing on our civilization"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "with the science of consciousness"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "studies. But then that gets extrapolated"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "and developed and defined more and more"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "and more into scientific systems. So you"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "know instead of having this with a radio"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "frequency, this is on a thought"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "frequency. You think to it, it turns on,"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "it does something. We'll get into this"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "in the moment. That's the interstellar"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "level. All civilizations capable of"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "going beyond what are normally described"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "as the limits of spaceime and this the"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "light barrier speed of light by"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "definition have mastered technologically"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "both in transportation systems as well"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "as communication systems"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "transdimensional physics which is what"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "where we're going to go in a moment."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "There's a purpose to all this. I'm"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "trying to lay a foundation so you can"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "understand the rest of this and I hope I"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "haven't lost you yet. There'll be time"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "for questions. The g what I call the gap"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "interface is very important to"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "understand and that is how does what is"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "the relationship between"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "these other dimensions spirit world the"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "astral energy fields the thought realms"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "3D material objects the cosmos the"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "planet your body yourself. How does"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "remote healing work? Where people put"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "their awareness on someone and say a"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "prayer, an intercessionary prayer, and"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "it has an effect. Why does that work?"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "It's because every point in space in"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "time and every person has all of this"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "cosmos holographically"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "folded within."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "It's it's not a linear. This is written"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "out linearly, but just forget the"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "linearity, okay? It's not even"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "nonlinear, it's non-locality."}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "So in physics, you know, Einstein"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "described the spooky effect where the"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "same particle would be in the two places"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "at once, that sort of thing."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "Entanglement as it's been called. Uh"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "some of you have heard about this. And"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "physics is beginning to push into this"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "non-locality. And it's where you begin"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "to get the an understanding that used to"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "be relegated to the mystics into"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "postquantum let's call it physics and"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "the science of consciousness is the"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "intersection of those two."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "Okay. Now we have uh explored all this"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "in various times in human history but in"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "ways that perhaps weren't intellectually"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "or or academically understood."}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "They were more experential."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Now we're getting to the point where we"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "can set up experimental models like Dr."}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "Raiden's been doing and Dr. John did"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "until his his passing uh of of studying"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "that and and the effects of it."}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "Otherwise, how is it that you could be"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "sitting in a room, put your awareness on"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "a random number generator and affect the"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "outcome?"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "More zeros and ones or more ones and"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "zeros. 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So there's this aspect of the"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "being bonded in oneness because the"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "highest expression of love is oneness."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "This state you can call it pure love."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "You can also can see it as oneness"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "because if you want to if you love"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "someone you want to be with someone is"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "that magnetic force very powerful what"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "we call love. 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Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "this gap between"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "that this interplay between the"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "three-dimensional cosmos and all of the"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "consciousness tonality astral and what I"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "call near aastral"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "things that are how is it that your body"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "of light interfaces with your physical"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "body"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "for example what's what's let's let's"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "get on a granular almost reductionist"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "level of scientific inquiry Here you all"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "have this experience of lucid dreaming."}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "You have a body of light and this inner"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "thoughts essence and consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "unbounded wind this window into the"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "unbounded field through your own portal."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "Let's call it each of you is a stargate"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "from that point of view of into"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "infinity. Each and every individual is a"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "stargate into this infinite realm and to"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "any point in space and time"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "which you can experience. So people say"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "oh do I have to create a portal or a"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "story? I said you are a portal and a"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "stargate. You need to know who you are"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "and once you realize who you are you can"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "access all of this here within. It's all"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "there. It's all folded within. So this"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "infoldment is really important to"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "understand and yet there is a very"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "specific scientific articulation let's"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "call it connection between these realms"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "that can be uh scientifically developed"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "and dare I use the word routinized made"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "routine those are the interstellar"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "civilizations"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "that's what they've already accomplished"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "if they hadn't been able to accomplish"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "that they couldn't go from one star"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "system to another, one galaxy to"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "another. So, this is getting into the"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "transdimensional interstellar TDIS level"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "of the physics I want to get into today."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "Have I lost folks yet?"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": ">> You with me so far?"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": ">> Okay, good. So, we ain't Y'all ready for"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "this? We just getting started, honey."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "I am a child of the South. Now, North"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "Carolina."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "interesting place to have developed on"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "this planet. Uh"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "oh boy. Now when we cons entertain how"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "does all of this let's call it as well"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "as other dimensions the spirit world uh"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "higher and lower dimensions of the"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "astral uh some would call you know you"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "go all the way from angelic celestial"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "enlightened to things that people might"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "experience that are kind of buggy and"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "spooky to things that are just prosaic"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "uh but still considered um creepy like"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "the guy who died in my trauma one level"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "we had a big trauma place and this"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "doctors see a lot of stuff they don't"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "talk about because we're not supposed to"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "talk about it cuz then you're not a"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "scientist. What nonsense get over"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "yourselves. Um all you academics time to"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "grow up. Childhood's in. Um you can"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "quote me on that. But I was there. We"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "had a man come in um and it was a"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "multi-system trauma uh from he was"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "murdered"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "and he had been intoxicated and we"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "couldn't save him. He passed away and um"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "a few hours later like at 3:00 or 4 in"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "the morning I was there in the in the"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "central area. It had all these trauma"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "rooms and stuff and it was for one"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "second quiet. No one was in there. And"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "I'm there with the nurses and the unit"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "clerk, her secretary. And all of a"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "sudden, the room in which he had passed"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "There was all this racket. The uh"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "cabinets flew open, IV bags were thrown"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "on the floor, the IV pump was turned on,"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "the EKG machine was turned up. This this"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "spirit of this guy that had passed away,"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "he was in a rage. Absolute."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "And that's been called poltergeist."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "these sort of weird phenomenon that's"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "real. Um, now don't be afraid of it. All"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "I did, I went into this state. I just"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "checked in here in all these realms,"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "connected to that soul, connected him to"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "that most great light, and it ended, and"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "he went on his way. As you can do that"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "very easily, not hard. See what I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "saying? Just do it like that. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "the nurses knew I'd done that, and they"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "said, \"Dr. Greer's a warlock.\""}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "I said, \"Well, thank you. Uh, we had"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "fun. Love those hillbilly nurses in"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "North Carolina. Um,"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "we did have fun. Um,"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "uh, so that experience, you know, that's"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "sort of one extreme experience of this"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "interface where an astral body pushes in"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "to this dimension. You see what I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "saying? But now imagine if you're let's"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "say you're from a planet and a galaxy"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "far far away. Where's George Lucas's"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "place? Not too far. And"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "and you're from a galaxy far far away."}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "Contrary to how the movies portray it,"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "you don't get your phasers out and"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "you're speed up to No, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "You create a resonant field around"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "whatever material object it is at a"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "certain frequency and resonance. very"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "high voltage. That thing looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "dematerialized and vanished. It's"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "actually uh let's call vibrationally or"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "resonantly as all electronics, high-end"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "electronics, boom, goes into the gap and"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "the near astral"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "and therefore it's no longer has mass."}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "It no longer has the limits of the"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "physical"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "universe as it's been described because"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "it is operating in the near aastral gap"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "interface that allows this"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "whether it's poltergeist or near-death"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "experience or you to be in a lucid"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "dream. There's this interwoveness"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "of that realm and other dimensions into"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "the physical. And if you have"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "scientifically elaborated and understood"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "this to the point of very fine"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "transdimensional physics and"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "electromagnetic and electronic systems,"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "you can go from point A to B in the"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "cosmos almost that fast. It's not quite"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "instantaneous because there's a"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "coefficiency of drag, I call it, like"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "you do with a car and a wind tunnel as"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "it skirts along the underbelly of the 3D"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "cosmos."}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "Does that make sense? So it may take a"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "month to go a million light years."}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "A month corrected for Earth time. Does"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "this make sense a little bit? We'll get"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "into this more in a moment. So then you"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "have also communication systems. So I"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "always tell this funny story"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "of you know I'm briefing the director of"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "the CIA and the cover story for that is"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "a dinner party. So the wives are"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "invited. This is this is 93. Very"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "chauvinistic, very politically"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "incorrect, even in a red state. And"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "but the wives were there to make it look"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "like a legitimate dinner party"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "because there was the head of a think"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "tank who has a board that the CI"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "director had been on and me. And then"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "the wives were invited at a dinner party"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "at the private home of the think tank"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "director. And of course, I was the"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "person presenting. So, this was Bill"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "Clinton, CI director,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "R. James Woolsey, who tried to deny the"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "meeting. Luckily, I have the letter. It"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "proves him the liar. I always say in"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "Washington, how do you know they're"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "lying? Their lips are moving."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "If their lips are moving, they're lying."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "End of discussion. Now, you can move on."}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "So, at any rate,"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "how cynical. True. But,"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "so we have this meeting. Interestingly,"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "we get into some really deep stuff very"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "quickly. And it wasn't coming from the"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "director of the CIA. He was more a"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "policy person. He just didn't understand"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "why the president and he were being"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "denied access to these unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "special access projects. In fact, he"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "didn't know that USPS existed, which is"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "the whole documentary, Uncknowledged,"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "which I'm sure most of you have seen."}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "It's number one documentary in the last"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "year on Netflix and iTunes and"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "elsewhere. But yeah, in the whole world."}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "Um uh yeah, even though the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "media tried to blacklist it, it just"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "took off. People are ready to hear this."}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "So the CI director's wife turns to me"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "and says, \"Um, how are they"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "communicating across these vast"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "distances of space?\" Because,"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "you know, we think we're all get out"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "with these little gadgets. It It's"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "really rubbish. This is 1844 radio"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "frequency. It it it's Let's not get"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "carried away. All those of you work in"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "Silicon Valley, you got a lot of growing"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "up to do. So,"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "we'll have a talk. If there are any tech"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "people here, you pull me aside. You can"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "pick my brain. You can move to the next"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "level quickly if you've got the coahones"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "to do it. Now,"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "that's really what it is. I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "right now. It's courage and vision and"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "integrity. Courage, vision, integrity."}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "That's all you need. We have a new"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "civilization here tomorrow. It's all"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "here. So what's beautiful though is that"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "she had the perspective to say and she"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "was the chief operating officer of the"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "National Academy of Sciences which is a"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "very prestigious mainstream scientific"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "entity probably the most prestigious in"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "the country if not the world and so she"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "said how are they communicating across"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "these vast distances because at the"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "speed of light of one of these things"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "let's say you're only a thousand light"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "years from here and that's the that's"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "the distance of 1% of the way through"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "our own galaxy, the Milky Way. The next"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "closest galaxy is 2 1/2 million lighty"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "years. So, it would take 2 and a half"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "million years at the speed of light to"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "get a signal to Andromeda. And 2 and 12"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "million years more for them to say,"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "\"Yeah, I got your signal. How you doing"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "today?\" That's 5 million years. So, any"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "interstellar civilization per force by"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "definition are required to be"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "transdimensional if they're"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "interstellar."}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "Now, people have said, I remember I was"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "here at the monuetic sciences with"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "Jacques Valet. He said, 'Well, these"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "things aren't extraterrestrial. They're"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "interdimensional. I'm going, \"Oi,"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "it's like saying an orange is round, but"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "it's not orange.\" And another guy"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "arguing, \"It's orange, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "round. It's orange and round.\" All"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "All interstellar civilizations are"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "transdimensional."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "All they have to be. You cannot. So, I"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "explained this to the director of the"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "CIA's wife. He was at this point, I"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "think I lost him with moved off of"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "policy and black budgets and"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "unagnowledged special access projects"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "and the agency that were lying to him"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "and the president and all that stuff"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "into this which seemed like the realm of"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "the mystic, but it isn't. It's the realm"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "of the cutting edge of science, the"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "science of consciousness as well. And I"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "said, look, they have two things"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "operating. They have technology assisted"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "consciousness. So they have technology"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "that assists their consciousness at"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "remote viewing,"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "precognition and communication, but they"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "also have consciousness that assists"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "their technologies for the guidance and"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "the direction of their spacecraft and"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "things like this. So it's CAT and TAC. I"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "wrote a paper about this in 1991."}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "It went all through the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "aerospace upper end of Lheed Skunk Works"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "and and McDonald Douglas at the time and"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "Northrup Grumman. My uncle's old company"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "was North Grumman and they went and"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "people went how do you know this? I said"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "cuz I had that experience. I went there"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "and when I had my first contact"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "experience it was on that basis. So"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "that's how I learned it. I learned it"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "directly and experientially. The"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "experience is the great teacher. So"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "let's have that experience together."}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "So the CI director's wife is going is"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "listening and I said because you really"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "the speed of light is just too damn"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "slow. It's too slow for either"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "communication or for transportation."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "And she looked at me and she says you"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "know I knew it had to be something like"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "that. She got it bang right off. And"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "that was in December on December 13th"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "1973. And I went that's when I said I"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "turned to my wife later. And I said,"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "\"That means the world is ready to hear"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "this, even if it's not supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "spoken about in polite company because"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "this is the chief operating officer of"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "the National Academy of Sciences.\""}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "Totally. This is what she was expecting"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "the answer to be."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "You see how important that is? It's sort"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "of like they're sort of like milestones"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "or litmus tests I look for in"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "civilization. Say, are we really ready"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "for this or not? Are we believing the PR"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "of the cabal and the people want to keep"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "us stupid? Well, I don't want to stay"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "stupid and neither do you. So, we can"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "just forget about those control freaks."}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "So, bye-bye. See you. Wouldn't want to"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "be you."}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "There you go. That's it. All right. So,"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "now what you have is an understanding."}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "You're beginning to see how if you are"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "an interstellar"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "civilization, it's way out in space,"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "which by the way is also infinite and"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "eternal. This is infinite and eternal,"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "but so is the cosmos."}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "The astrophysicists say that it's a"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "limited size and we can only see so far."}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "But that's just what I call the near"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "universe. There's a pause, the vastness"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "of empty space beyond what we can detect"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "and the continuation of universe and"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "universe. Uni means one. You can't say"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "there's another universe because that"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "subverts the meaning of universe. one"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "all this is in reality the universe now"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "our modern scientists and"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "astrophysicists and who is that Tyson"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "somebody degraphth or I don't know"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:22", "text": ">> huh"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": ">> Neil deGrasse Tyson"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:26", "text": ">> yeah Neil deGrasse Tyson and all those"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "folks they're they're limiting"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "themselves to a very narrow bandwidth"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "not even all of this all of this is"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "omitted"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "which means that their their operational"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "paradigm is fatally flawed and very much"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "uh just sort of more of a myth than the"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "truth scientifically even because they"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "will not acknowledge the primacy of the"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "conscious quantum hologram that is the"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "cosmos and that is also each individual"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "each individual has all of this folded"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "within"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "I'll give you one more little fun story"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "about the interface gap"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "which seems very foreign it isn't it's"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "it's part of look if you have a astral"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "projection experience or a lucid flying"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "dream. Somehow you integrate it"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "separates and then you integrate with"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "your physical body this body of light"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "that has within it the causality the"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "thought essence of yourself which is"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "actually a tonality and I see everyone"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "has our own tone song no two are alike"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "it's infinitely diverse and then that"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "has infolded within it the entirety of"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "this infinite consciousness field all"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "that every there's that wonderful saying"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "I think it's from uh the Persian"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "tradition. Thinkst thyself a puny form"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "when within thee the universe is folded."}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "It's a rhetorical question. You are not"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "a puny thing. All of this is folded"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "within each and every one of us and each"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "and every extraterrestrial sentient"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "being. So"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "I had a man who is Loheed skunk works"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "guy. He uh he approached me to ask"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "he really wanted to be a disclosure"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "witness uh Don Phillips he's in the"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "materials and it was about a radar and"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "an encounter case when he was in the"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "military and then he'd gone into work in"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "the Loheed skunk works the super secret"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "engineering division of Loheed Martin"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "he uh he said to me you know the real"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "reason I'm calling"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "it's a little bit of a transactional"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "thing that happens with these nearly"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "1,000 military and intelligence"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "witnesses that have come to me because"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "they want to be share me information"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "from them being in a in a classified"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "project but they want to pick my brain"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "about this. So he said back in those"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "days I was learning to uh I was part of"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "a group called the Royian and I don't"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "know what technique they use but he was"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "saying that he was being taught to"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "astrally project"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "and his teacher he was going oh I can't"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "he was intellectualizing and"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "overthinking it too much and his teacher"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "said look you you have the ability to do"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "this you know everything you need to"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "know just do it just go ahead and do it."}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "So he goes home, lays on his bed, does"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "the technique, and just sort of with an"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "impulse says, \"I can do this.\" And he"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "does. So he he goes up from his physical"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "body in his body of light, goes through"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "the roof, the ceiling of his house up"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "into the atmosphere and sees a UFO, what"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "he what used to be called a UFO. Now"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "it's called a UAP. It's all fake words."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "It was an extraterrestrial vehicle, ETV."}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "NSA call them ETV. No such thing as a"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "UAP or UFO. They're not unidentified."}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "They don't fly. It's a nonsense. And"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "they're certainly not unexplained aerial"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "phenomenon. That's ball lightning. Okay."}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "So, at any rate, these are all fake"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "terms made to colonize people's thoughts"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "to make you think we don't know what it"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "is when we do know what it is. Just"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "remember everything in the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "media is rubbish. So, total rubbish. You"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "know, fake scientists, fake news, fake,"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "fake, fake. not what necessarily the"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "president says, but it's fake. So"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "that's could be redacted. Redact."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "But let me just say this guy didn't"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "understand what happened because he he"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "understood"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "consciousness and the astral and all of"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "that. But when he went up to this craft"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "and he slammed against it and it moved"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "the craft, it actually moved it, jogged"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "it. And then of course he kind of popped"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "inside and there there's these ETs that"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "they're standing at consoles because"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "there's a bioelectric field and that's"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "how they're connecting consciousness"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "into the system and and they look at him"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "like my god why don't you watch where"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "you're going you know it was like this"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "interstellar phaua and um diplomatic or"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "rude just pop right in uh knock first."}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "but he said it was embarrassing but what"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "he couldn't understand he knew it was a"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "totally real experience. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "understand why his astral body would"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "have moved the craft. I said, \"Ah.\""}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "Because it had quote unquote pop culture"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "term dematerialized"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "and it was in the atmosphere. Wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "have been seen with the naked eye or a"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "radar system. And it was in this near"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "aastral 3D gap hovering. There could be"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "one out here right now. You wouldn't see"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "it. You wouldn't detect it. No radar"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "system and no electronic system would"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "detect it except ones that are quite"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "advanced that are nutrino light astral"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "systems that are highly classified."}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "We'll get into this later. And so those"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "that experience"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "taught him something but he didn't know"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "what it was. And I said it's because"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "when an interstellar ship has shifted"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "out of 3D"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "and has gone into say"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "4D, 5D, 6D, 8D, 10D, there are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "dimensions."}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "It will be there, but it'll be there in"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "a form. And if your physical astral"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "body, I consider it physical. It's not"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "metaphysical. It's still physical."}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "Anything this side of unbounded pure"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "consciousness is relative and has"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "relativity of some type. May not be"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "normal spaceime attached to it. The"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "density of your astral body and the"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "density of that craft shifted into that"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "frequency were the same and that's why"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "they touched."}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "Conversely, you could take something"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "this you've heard of masters in doing"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "this. take it a little bit out of spin,"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "angular momentum, this object, and make"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "it go straight through my hand."}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "It's not magic. It's physics. It's a"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "physics that we need to begin to"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "understand because that's what these"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "ETcraft are doing."}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "It's been relegated to the mystic. See,"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "here's the problem. We've overly"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "mystified things that were at a stage"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "for the last half century we should have"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "all known. And that's part of the"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "problem with secrecy. We're, you know,"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "50 to 100 years held back"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "educationally from what we should know"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "scientifically. I'm not talking about"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "just in consciousness. Had there been"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "disclosure of these facts back in the"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "40s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, but here we are"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "2018 living like Neanderthalss burning"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "oil in our cars to get up here. All"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "right? When we haven't needed that for"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "since I was alive. Uh, and I ain't no"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "spring chicken. I just turned 63. and I"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "have eight grandkids. So what what what"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "what you realize with this this whole"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "model is that all of this is folded"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "within us. All of it is folded within"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "us. But it also means it can be"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "scientifically accessed if you have"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "enough refined"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "science and refined technological"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "ability where you the science of"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "consciousness and the studies of that"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "where the interface between"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "consciousness thought"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "so-called causality and a astral"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "energies begin to come together"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "with physical systems."}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "Now, interstellar civilizations as well"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "as highly classified projects in the"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "United States and elsewhere have have"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "that and we'll get into that in a"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "moment. But this paradigm you need to"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "first own and comprehend before you know"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "you can we can go to this next"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "understanding."}]

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The controllers, I call them,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "uh, who who orchestrate these things."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "And so we kind of have to go, well, we"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "need to have that Jim Carrey moment"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "where we kind of wake up and realize,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "you know, we've been in a in a crazy"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Truman show here for 70 years since"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "World War II and get real. 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It's also"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "that when we do these things, we don't"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "realize in quantum physics in the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "entangled universe, the degree to which"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "what Einstein called the spooky effect"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "where the same particle could be in two"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "places at once, um, etc. and so on, that"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the cosmos isn't this straight linear"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "existence. It's a quantum conscious"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "hologram woven together. And when we do"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "something of a critical mass of say"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Hiroshima or what have you and the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "things we have now these weapons now"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "that he's referring to are orders of"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "magnitude more destructive than ones we"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima it"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "actually creates damage not just on"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Earth but throughout the cosmos and now"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "you're understanding why the ETSs are"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "here. One of the reasons they're here is"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "that they're very concerned about what"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "we do to this beautiful world by a small"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "group of sociopaths"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and war mongers. But what it's doing to"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "their worlds. So we have to understand"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "that I want to start off with is more"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "recent. So I've shared in in pieces here"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "and there what what we were doing"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "towards the end of the uh last"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "administration. for President Trump and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "uh Vice President Pence. Uh I was not"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "able to reach anyone in that"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "administration at the level of the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "office of the president or vice"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "president unfortunately reliably until"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "uh August September of 2020. So kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "late to the party at that point. I had"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the CEO of a think tank and consultancy"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "uh in Washington DC uh A10 Associates"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "who the CEO of which very close friends"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "with the Pence family and and knew the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Trump family who 100% supportive of what"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "we were trying to do to avoid World War"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "II"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "um and endless war and particularly"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "weaponizing space and portraying these"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "uh interstellar visitors as a national"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "security threat. But unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "we're a little late to the party and by"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "the time uh unacknowledged had had"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "hundreds of millions of views and this"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "uh counter inelligence and"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "disinformation operation known as to the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "stars academy TTSA went public with the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "tic tac and other videos. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "at that point, we knew that there was a"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "a counter measure to what Unnowledge was"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "telling the public because when you hit"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "hundreds of millions of people, it goes"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "viral, then they're going to do"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "something. So that the genesis of that"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "we knew was the beginning of them"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "launching what Verer von Brown warned"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "about the hoaxing of an alien threat"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "where they could unite the world around"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "a militaristic response to this. And at"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "that point I realized you know we're"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "really in trouble and we're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "have to do something to sort of get the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "narrative back. The first thing we did"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "was to create through the help of many"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "of you Close Encounters of the Fifth"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Kind, which also became a number one"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "documentary on Amazon and iTunes and all"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "over the world. And it's now on Amazon"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Prime. Anyone can see it for free if"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "they have Prime. Uh, and on other sites,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "that was a call to action for"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "grassroots. what what Timothy Ikarov,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the trainer of cosminauts in in Russia"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "just said where we come together as a"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "movement that are grassroots where we"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "make peaceful contact with these"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "civilizations and bypass the national"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "security state and take the matter into"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the hands of we the people which is how"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "it actually should be. And so that of"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "course went forward and about the time"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "that course picked up enormous momentum"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "in the last 12 months, uh they then"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "pivot towards this"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "big problem with the Trump"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "administration having been targeted at"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the level of the president and the vice"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "president with very effective counter"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "inelligence disinformation."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Now let me explain how this works."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Probably you all know about the Iraq war"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "and how we"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "through the vice president Cheny's"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "office cherrypicked intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "so that Colin Powell the secretary of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "state would go to the UN and talk about"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the fearsome weapons of mass destruction"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that Saddam Hussein had. Now you know"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "I'm no fan of Saddam Hussein. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "obviously a thug and a dictator and"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "they're all over the world. However, he"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "did not have those weapons and it was"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "known he did not have them. However, it"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "was enough to stampede the American"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "people and the Congress into a"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "disastrous war. And it was all based on"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "knowingly false and host in some cases"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Colin Powell, the Secretary of State,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "who had been chairman of the Joint"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Chiefs of Staff, by the way, wasn't like"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "he wasn't familiar with military and"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "intelligence operations, admitted later"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "that he was deceived. and his chief of"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "staff went on the record saying that"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they were deceived by a intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "operation out of the West Wing run by"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the vice president chain. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "that ship sailed a while back. I'll get"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "into some things that happened there"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "that will stun you and"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "with uh weapon electronic systems on"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "satellites."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "when we get into looking at how this"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "runs, you also have to go all the way"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "back to the era of Ronald Reagan. And I"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "met with a colonel not long ago before"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "he passed away named Colonel Homeman."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "And Colonel Holman had been on a"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "committee back in the Carter transition,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "late Carter years in early Ronald Reagan"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "presidency to convince the president of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the need for the strategic defense"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "initiative, Star Wars. and it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "really getting much traction for as a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "policy initiative in terms of"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "conventional geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "exigencies and requirements until they"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "played"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the last card and he admitted to me that"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "they would went in with cherrypicked and"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "distorted information and convinced"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Ronald Reagan that there was an alien"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "threat. And of course that's reflected"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "in his speech to the United Nations and"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "a few other speeches where the president"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "said, \"Oh, wouldn't our job of uniting"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "the world be easier if if we could"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "comite against a common threat, alien"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "threat.\" So unfortunately you know you"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "had a actor from Hollywood and then a"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "governor from California Ronald Reagan"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "who was easy to move through"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "cherrypicking and spinning of"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "information to go to the policy decision"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "these classified projects wanted."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "This happens all the time in in in the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Congress, in the White House, and in"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "other capitals because the people who"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "run these unagnowledged special access"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "projects first and foremost are masters"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "of psychological warfare, SCOPs, and"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "psychological and social engineering."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Very good at it, extremely good at it."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "It's why the CI director in 1953,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "CI director Smith says, and we have the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "document, it's in my books, and it says"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "that the UFO matter has a great"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "potential for psychological warfare"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "operations."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Well, that's what he was talking about."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "And so that was something that was"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "actually put into play in the early 50s"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "and perhaps in some milder way before"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "then"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "u in the ' 40s but it definitely began"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "at that point. So we have to understand"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "that our democracy which Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "warned was vulnerable to these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "machinations and extreme secrecy that it"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "could threaten our security and our"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "peace. That's what Eisenhower said on"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "his last speech to the world before he"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "left office and before Jack Kennedy"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "became president. And what I've learned"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "is people who are in positions with"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "access to the presidency often are the"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "people moved into place"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "to be able to do exactly that. The"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "gentleman whose letter I I quoted from"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "at the opening who set up my meeting"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "with the director of the CIA in 1993"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "flat out when I asked him, \"Is it"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "possible that the director of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "really doesn't has been read into this"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "or briefed on is no?\" He I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "what about the president?\" He says,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "\"Well, the president has has just been"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "brushed off.\""}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "And I said, \"How is that even possible?\""}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "This is my naive days as a young doctor"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "stepping into that world. I've never"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "been in the government and and don't"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "want to be. But he said, \"Oh, yeah. I"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "was a c a staffer for on Ronald Reagan's"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "National Security Council.\" And and and"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "we didn't want the old man to know. We"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "just lied to him. I said, \"You lied to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "the president of the United States.\" He"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "says, \"Oh, yeah. Every day, all the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "time. Welcome to Washington.\" So, you"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "have to get into a mindset of"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "understanding how this is played. um you"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "know your civics lesson and the naivee"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "and what's presented on the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "media what you've read in your history"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "books and all this throw it away and"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "that's just a PR stunt it's not how this"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "country's been running since World War"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "II so I don't say that with any pride my"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "mother's ancestors were the original"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "prisoner of war with the British"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "interestingly and my dad was half"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Cherokee native peoples of this land but"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "When you look at this, you realize that"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "we have a very big constitutional"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "crisis. And so when I was approached by"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "these folks to put a briefing together"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "for the president, the vice president"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "back in the fall in the summer, I said,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "\"I'll do it.\" And I said, \"But you have"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "to be our um leazison and it has to be"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "handed to them"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "off site that does not go through the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "security system.\" and they were able to"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "do that because otherwise been"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "intercepted, put aside. So that group"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "worked diligently. We we were still"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "close and working. Of course, obviously"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "it's irrelevant in terms of that that"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "administration. They're out. And"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "we also did a about a 20 minute video"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "brief summary that was handed to the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "vice president and the president and was"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "also sent actually to Russia as well for"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "President Putin. And what's important"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "about that is that we were trying to get"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the president to pivot away from"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "the space force and the greenlighting of"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "of weaponization of space etc and so on."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "I was horrified. I what I my worst fear"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "when I heard about the formation of the"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "space force and also when these this"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "counter intelligence group with Luis"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Alzando and Chris Mel and these other"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "people went public was that in fact the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "train had left the station and that they"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "had effectively pulled the trigger on"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the ramp up to this false flag"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "operation. And in fact that's what was"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "confirmed. What was confirmed to me from"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "people very close to the president vice"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "president is that they had been targeted"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "with virilent"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "hateful disinformation about the alien"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "threat and that they were convinced that"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "it was an existential threat to this"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Now into that disaster I stepped."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Unfortunately, it also was a disaster of"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "this election. So it wasn't easy."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "This is the original letter they wrote"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "on my behalf to the president, the vice"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "president. And this is the briefing"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "document for President Trump and"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "President Vice President Pence. Um now"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "our recommendation just to be clear was"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "that they steer away from that narrative"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "that they do a joint announcement with"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "other world leaders"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "um and religious leaders around the"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "world saying that we're not alone that"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "they're not hostile they're concerned"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "about what we're doing in space we come"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "together and keep all we out of space"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "and develop a raw palm and a diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "initiative to make contact peace"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "peacefully with these civilizations so"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "we can go forward."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Um, obviously that didn't happen. We"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "were trying to make that happen before"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "January 20th. And of course it was one"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "catastrophe after another after another."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "You know, I was on the phone and up all"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "night, you know, with the with hap what"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "happened on on January 6th. Um, and we"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "won't go into all the gory detail of"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "that. I mean, it's not important. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "over. But that is what we've been doing."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "And of course, you know, I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "this at certain level for different"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "places around the world uh since the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "early '90s with Clinton administration"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "forward. This was the scariest"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "situation I've ever seen because in"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "other presidencies we knew that they"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "were doing things clandestinely like"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Dick Cheney is on this committee of two"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "or 30 hundred along with George HW Bush"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "senior and a number of other folks that"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "I know about and some of whom I met with"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "over the years. But they were sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "moving. They were keeping it sabrosa"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "underneath"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "and it was not in the mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "in that narrative and it wasn't coming"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "out of the government officially. That"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "all changed. The beta test, the trial"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "balloon for it was the TTSA in Brocio"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "uh where they were everything they"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "released the tic tac had every story in"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "the mainstream media was and it's a"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "threat to the national security and it's"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "a national security threat and they're"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "invading our bases and they're"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "interfering with our nuclear weap"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "everything was couched in a xenophobic"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "fear-based manner and it stories like"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "that that once were forbidden to be"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "published in the New York Times. This"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "subject was redlined. I'm quoting. I was"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "told this by an editor in the New York"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "Times. We don't cover this stuff."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Suddenly, simultaneously,"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "it appears in all the media, mainstream"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "media, both digital, cable news, CNN,"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "Fox News, New York Times, and globally"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "in other media. That's when I knew they"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "had hit the button. They had hit the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "button. Go. and their lackey and the"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "shills in the media who actually work"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "undercover as journalists and editors"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "were ordered carry this story. Now they"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "don't carry the disclosure project"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "witnesses and videos or documents which"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "are much more dispositive and much more"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "evidence than what TTSA released."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "However,"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "they did it that way because the people"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "who are the mouthpieces"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "appearing in the media were all sticking"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "to the talking points to it to be"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "specific that"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "these are a threat to the national"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "security and we have to find out what"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "they are. And number two, we don't know"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "what they are. We're going to call them"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "something new. UAPs."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Mhm. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "And we don't know how they operate or"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "fly. We don't know how they're moving."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "Never in mind. We've been building them"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "since the 1940s and50s experimentally"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "and fully operationally since October"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "1954. And that's what we're going to"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "show you. Now, this charade is very"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "dangerous because in the last month,"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "both the the ranking member of the"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Senate Intelligence Committee, Marco"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Rubio, and the director of national"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "intelligence for Trump, Radcliffe, have"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "said the same talking points."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "We don't know what these are. They're"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "threats to national security. And even"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "we don't even know how they're going"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "faster than the speed of sound without"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "making a sonic boom when of course there"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "have been classified aerospace projects"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "and people I know who developed those"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "systems decades ago."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "Now, if in fact the ranking member of"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "the Senate Intelligence Committee"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "doesn't know that salient fact and or"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "heaven forbid the director of national"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "intelligence doesn't, then that's a very"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "big problem. The only problem that's"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "worse is that they do know that that's a"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "lie and they are scripted and they are"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "lying to the public and to the American"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "people and it's appalling. It cannot go"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "on because the reason they would want"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "people to think, this is what's"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "important, this is the punchline. The"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "reason they want everyone to think we"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "don't know what those are or maybe"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "they're from China or Russia, it's"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "nonsense."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "Is because if and when they roll out"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "this last card, this hoaxing of an alien"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "threat, this false flag operation, the"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "whole world will be convinced, oh, we've"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "been told we don't know what these are."}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "Therefore, anything that goes bump in"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "the night or is violent or something"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "disastrous happens, it's alien."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "Blame it on the aliens because we don't"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "have that capability. What we are here"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "to do is to prove in point effect we do."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "Full stop in the discussion. Let's quit"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "playing games"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "because if the public understands the"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "technologies, the modus operandi, the"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "research and development that has"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "happened since World War II to now and"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that we have these systems and that they"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "have been in the past and will be in the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "future used for counter intelligence and"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "hoaxing and faking events. Then if"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "enough people know that, a billion, two"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "billion people know it, which is our"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "intention with what we're doing today,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "then they may not pull that stunt. We"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "may avoid"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "that last card from being played because"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "if we don't, you've heard what these"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "generals and others have said, what the"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "consequences are. And they are not"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "overstating the gravity of the situation"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "at all. Not in the least. And neither is"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "Carol Rosen. So that's what's at stake"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "here. So as we go forward, um, and and I"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "think you all know"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "that if you're following the news,"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "back a few years ago, Senator Harry Reid"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "from Nevada, who's the majority leader"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "of the Senate, um, was working on this"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "issue. He has been mentoring Senator"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "Rubio and also works with, uh, some"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "other senators very interested in this"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "issue. They authorized"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "uh from the Pentagon budget, $22 million"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "to do a study, and this is in the New"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "York Times and CNN on the UFO issue."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "And I had the opportunity a few months"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "ago to speak to the general who actually"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "arranged and set all that up, who had"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "retired from the Pentagon and was a"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "staffer for Senator Reid and a friend of"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "Senator Reid."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "And in this couple hour Zoom call"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "meeting we had it was in the height of"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "COVID a few months ago, he told me that"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "they authorized this thinking they were"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "going to get a legitimate study from"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "Bigalow Aerospace out of Nevada. Now"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "I've known Mr. Bigalow since I met him"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "at the Rockefeller ranch in 1993."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "And he immediately, it was clear to me"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "from what he told me that he intended to"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "get into the inside of the technology"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "and knowledge and he'd probably do"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "anything to do so. I've met a few"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "billionaires and centmillionaires who"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "have done this because what they they"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "don't need the money, they want the"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "access, they want the knowledge. So his"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "concigli"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "and the people around him who were the"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "his mentor for him forming bigo"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "aerospace and before that the national"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "institute of discovery science were all"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "counterintelligence operations from"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "these unagnowledged special access"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "projects. I knew them. I knew every one"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "of them. And I knew he was going to be"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "used by them for his money and his"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "connections and his political"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "connections to run what's called a DDT"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "operation."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "You think of DDT as a pesticide or"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "The right-hand guy for the director of"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "the National Security Agency back some"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "years ago, uh, who was who was General"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "ODM, his assistant used to carry his"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "briefcase, handcuffed, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "whole bit. And I were I was meeting with"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "him and he says, \"Oh yeah, we call these"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "DDT operations.\" I said, \"What is that?"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "You're poisoning people?\" I said, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "no, no, no, no. You set up a decoy"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "operation. It becomes a distraction and"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "it trashes people's money or their"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "understanding or their influence and"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "diverts. So, it's a diversion."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "It is in of itself a counter"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "intelligence false flag strategy."}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "And that, my friends, is what happened"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "to our $22 million. Your money, my"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "money. I've never gotten an Indian head"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "nickel from the US government, but I"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "sure have or contractor anyone. I sure"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "have paid a lot. Um, and that money went"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "right into this operation which was"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "designed to get a report back to"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Congress. And this is what General"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "Herbert said. It came back. We had a"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "classified briefing in the skiff, the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "secure communication information"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "facility. That's what it is. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "to use skiff in the future in my"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "presentation."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "And the Senate, but he said there was"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "nothing that substantive there. It was a"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "view from 40,000 ft. He was an army"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "pilot. the general pervert. I said,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "\"Yes, of course.\" He said, \"What do you"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "mean, of course?\" I said, \"Well, let me"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "explain to to you what the DDT operation"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "was that was run on you.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "explained to him what I just said to"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "you. And he went, \"Oh my god, I wish"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "we'd known you then because we just"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "wasted $22 million.\" I said, \"Is that"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "why you didn't renew"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "the grant to Bigalow Aerospace because"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "you felt and sense that you were"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "actually being deceived and it was a"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "waste of money?\" He says, \"Yes, we knew"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "we weren't getting this story.\" He told"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "me that point blind. Now, we have this"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "director of national intelligence report"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "coming out."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "And what kind of dog and pony show"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "that'll be, who knows? Likely in the"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "classified skiff"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "for Congress, they will present some"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "cases that will all be couched like they"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "did for President Reagan and others and"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "President Trump and and Vice President"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "Pence,"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "that it's a national security threat,"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "that it's an alien threat. We need more"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "money for the defense contractors and we"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "need to have more assets to put weapons"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "in space to protect us from the aliens."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "That's the game that's being played"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "right now today. And that's why we have"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "to act."}]

[{"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen and Dr. Greer,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> we been communicating with Dr. Greer for"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "5 years, folks."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Yeah. If all of this is crazy, that film"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "is a hoax, if it's all BS,"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "the the DoD, the NSA, according to"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Apple, according to intel people because"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "of my foyer request. My emails have been"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "stolen three times."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> There have been comments made to other"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "people from the DIA. We know John"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Stewart very well. His foyers are had"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "sent up trip flares. I'm just simply"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "asking this. If it's all a hoax, if it's"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "all BS, why why have I caused such a"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "stir in intel for them to steal emails"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "off my phone three times to the point"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "where the FBI, local police, and the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Apple Corporation are stymied? And"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that's just something for all of you to"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "think about."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> Yeah, I have this happen on a daily"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "basis."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> I know you do. You told me that when I"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "first met you."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> I mean, literally."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Uh, literally on a daily basis. So, I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "mean, uh, and since 1991,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> you told me, get ready to buy a couple"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "of laptops and throw them out and get"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "new ones. Yeah, I remember it"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "specifically."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> So, here's the other thing. Uh, one of"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "the things we want to do with this, I"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "want to put out a call to everyone"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "listening. If you have any uh actionable"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "intelligence on this case or anything"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "similar because let's just step away"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "from this particular event. Remember"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "that there have been dozens and dozens"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "and hundreds of uh these sort of ET"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "events."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> And there are bound to be people who"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "have been present"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> uh like that doctor who just died 11"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "years ago in 2014."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> That's right. there are bound to be"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "people who handled the film footage or"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "who were there in the interrogation. We"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "now have a mechanism"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "uh not through the congress but through"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "law enforcement to immunize and protect"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "anyone who comes forward. So contact me."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "We have at our website"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "drstephvengreer.com"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "a box uh contact box that is for"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "whistleblowers witnesses. uh it'll be"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "held very confidentially. But if you"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "have information on this case or similar"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "cases related to uh extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "crap being downed, uh ETSs being"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "interrogated or anything else of"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "significance on the UAP UFO subject, you"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "can contact us there. But there may be"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "still people out there who uh were"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "involved directly in one way or another"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "with this particular case that you're"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "dealing with."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> The interview case."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> And we need to see if they can come"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "forward with any corroborating"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> or documents or what have you. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> please do. Please do."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> If there's one bit of film footage that"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "got smuggled out, uh there's others. And"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "let me make one other clear statement."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "You are not breaking the law when you"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "remove documents or material from these"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "facilities."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Can you explain that? Telling me"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "something new."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Yeah. So it was determined back in the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "mid 90s uh that because the president"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "and key people in the Congress that we"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "had uh briefed were being denied access"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "to these operations that they were"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "illegal black projects. So you have"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "black projects that are known by the"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "president and the the gang of eight in"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "the congress and then you have these"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "projects which are being run"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "unconstitutionally."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "For that reason all NDAs are negated."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "You're not bound by your non-disclosure"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "agreement. The top secret clearance on"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "all of this has been stripped. Uh, I can"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "tell you that senior administration, law"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "enforcement, and congressional people"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "I've met with now know that this is a"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "massive RICO, racketeering, influence,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "corrupt organization, and that they are"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "committing multiple criminal activities"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "up to and including treason, murder,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "kidnapping, embezzlement of federal"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "funds. For that reason, all UFO ET"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "related and UAP projects, all material,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "all witnesses, all"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "documents, film footage, even physical"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "items or bodies are fair game to be"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "brought forward now. And that there is"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "no one contesting what I just said. No"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "one in the national security system. So"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "um and I'm plugged in at at a very high"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "level. So this means people should have"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "they have a clear playing field right"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "now to come forward. Moreover, the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "people in the law enforcement have the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "ability to immunize them and and and put"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "a net around them to protect them to see"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "uh and and surveil if there's anyone who"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "tries to harass them. So, I I suggest"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "that people uh walk through the door"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "that's open right now because who knows"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "how long it'll be open,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> And that people should come forward now"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "in in larger numbers. That's what we're"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "calling for."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> Um we we do have a question coming in"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "from one of our members."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> Um if either of you can talk a little"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "bit more about um S2 and S3 and how this"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "all relates to Area 51."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> Yeah. one of the the greatest"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "uh cold water moments of this whole"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "investigation. And I'm thinking S4, S4,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "S4. And I had an intel person say you"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "you're looking like a fool with people"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "in the know. Uh this hangers in the"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "mountain Bob Lazar. It's S4 is suble for"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the alien housing center which resides"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "on top of S2 Annex or S2 alpha annex."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "And that is the building with four"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "levels underneath it where people talk"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "about S4, suble of the S2 Alpha Annex."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "This is to the um to the left of Papoose"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Lake. Uh I I've provided Raven with two"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "satellite photos of it. Folks, take this"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "to the bank. This is where the beans are"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "housed, retained, uh and interrogated."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "S2 alpha and and you know in following"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Dr. Greer's eye of the documents we have"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "a foyer from 1962ish"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "where this facility was built to take"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the the live beans from the BBS opnac"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "oceanic platform for North Atlantic in"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "the Bermuda biological station coming"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "from the SAM manual. They needed a new"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "facility and it was this S2 Alpha"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "facility. And there have been more than"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "more than more than people than not who"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "have said this S4 Bob Lazar hangers in"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "the side of the mountain is a myth."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> I'm just telling you what I was told."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "But I know I've seen the satellite photo"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "and I've seen the foyer. That is the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "AHC, the Alien Housing Center, S2 Alpha"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "or they call it the S2 Annex. I got the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "food lunch dinner schedule. Um, I had a"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "person come forward, a Sergeant Michael"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Munos, who said on live chat on YouTube,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "stop harassing John Stewart. This guy is"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "telling you verbatim. I was I was I have"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the DD214 that had me at S2L. I could"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "tell you how to get a wall clock. I"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "could tell you how to get a dignitary."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And he's right. Yankee White is the is"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "the code to get into this building. And"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "we've had three other people verify S2"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "alpha. Forget this S4 folks. It's it's a"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "red herring. It's the suble for yes, but"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "it's sublevel 4 beneath S2 alpha. Take"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "that please to the bank. And thank you"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "for your question."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Yeah. And the other thing to remember"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "those are very old facilities and even"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "this case is Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> 30ome years old."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Yes. And so those have all evolved. So"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "tactically um there are more critically"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "important areas that are up near um"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Pahoot Mesa. Groom Lake um"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> Dougway"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> out in the Doug way is the most"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "important newer facility out in the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Mojave Desert uh near Edwards complex."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> Do you think they put those facilities"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "south of Groom Lake in like a caretaker"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "status? You would"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> anybody would know that,"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> you know? I think that there, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "it evolves, but remember the underground"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "facilities that go very deep"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> are connected to all the other ones"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "through tunneling"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> that goes all through that part of the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "of the continental United States. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and we know this. I mean, Becktail"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Corporation and others have built the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "underground uh the subterranean"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "facilities, but also these large uh"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "tunnels that connect from one place. You"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "can go from Edwards or near Edwards"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "underground and go boom right out to uh"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "the Nellis complex and never surface."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> unbelievable."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely true. Uh we know people"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "I know people who've done so. So I think"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "this is uh remember there's a very big"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "story here. I encourage people to go to"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "our archive. Um, we have a a"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "dpiarchive.com"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "where we've have a map of all these"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "facilities and a pin where a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "openings are as well as uh in another"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "file the actual patent for this"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "nuclearpowered tunneling device that has"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "built these spaces that goes through"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "bedrock and turns it into glass. But so,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "you know, the case you're dealing with"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "is, you know, more than a third of a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "century old,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> in terms of of those facilities and, you"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "know, it's a bit of a shell game where"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "they can move around and what have you."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "So, I'm just wanting to make that as a a"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "point."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> Uh, great statement of fact just"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "because, you know, we're telling"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "programs that have a virtually unlimited"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "amount of money"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> uh and and technology, but are very"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "thinly staffed and as you pointed out,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "they have make mistakes where things do"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "get out. Yes sir."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": ">> And uh so this is what we're asking for"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "more whistleblowers uh who can come"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "forward who have direct knowledge or"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "material and we can see that you are"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "properly uh protected. But uh and if"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "you've done some criminal activity, uh"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "we are looking at uh being able to"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "immunize you uh in in the program that"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "we have now. that's I can't say too much"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "more about but um but I will say any of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "this activity is treasonous and illegal"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "because it is not sanctioned by the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "constitutionally authorized"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "uh officials and that renders them uh"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "completely unable to enforce the"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "National Security Act top secret you"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "know uh provisions to prosecute anybody."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "It's the other way around. The people"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "who would try to intimidate and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "prosecute a witness, they will be"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "arrested. See, we're gonna flip this"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "right back on this organization."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> Because they they have no right to uh"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "claim they have a top secret legal"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "clearance when they are themselves"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "breaking the law. You cannot have it"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "both ways. You can't subvert the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Constitution and the chain of command"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "and at same time claim you're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "use the law to keep things secret. See,"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "you can't have it both ways. And this is"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "their Achilles heel right there, what I"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "just said. Um, so this is why people who"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "are whistleblowers need to come forward."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> Well said. We have time for maybe one"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "more question, but um"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": ">> so there's a lot of controversy around"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Bob Lazar and you know is he really"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "telling the truth with all the things he"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "said? Um what what's your opinions on"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> Do you want do you want me I'll go"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "first. Um I'm just I'm going to be very"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "careful with my words here. Number one,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "I have communicated with Bob Lazarin"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "five times. He is like a Dr. Greer. He"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "is very responsive. He's a gentleman and"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "he's been very, very nice to me and has"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "not helped me all that much. But I just"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "wanted to get that across. I am also"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "going to make one more statement. Do not"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "push all of your chips forward on the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "metaphoric poker table that Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "was never at Area 51. Now, what he did"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "there, I have no idea. Do I think that"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "there was a desperate need of a"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "breakthrough in the reverse propulsion"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "uh program? Galileo and and Edward"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Teller who recruited Stan Deo who was a"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "FBI informant disgraced Air Force cadet"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "also recruited Bob Lazar according to"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Bob. Uh, do I think they went out of the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "box mistakenly and tried to get some um"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "some sance in in in physics uh that"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "could maybe, you know, again think out"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "of the box? Yes, I think that's very"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "possible. Do I think that Bob was maybe"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "part of a SCOP? Absolutely. But he was"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "on Area 51. I have seen his name on the"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "EG&G entry log um to get onto Groom"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Lake. So folks that that that is a fact."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Um I will finally say"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> part of it but you also remember when we"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "can't go on too long. We're running out"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "of time."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": ">> Um I want to add another lay layer of"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "analysis of this knowing how the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "intelligence community works. Um pe"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "people can be shown things and told"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "things that are deliberately they know"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "they're going to leak them because it's"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "a it's a diversion and it's not quite"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "accurate."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> So you have to be careful. You know I my"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "mantra when I go up and and meet with"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "members of Congress and whatnot is that"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "You're dealing with the the the the the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "super varsity team of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "operations, diversions, deception,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "slight of hand. So anything like that"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "and the question is uh people get all"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "into the physics of what he presented"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "which are unproven. people get into and"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "even what you are shown and told may or"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "may not have been what he thought he saw"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "because if they if they"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "had a sense that he might carry things"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "forward, he would quite unintentionally"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "carry forward part information and part"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "disinformation because there were"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "certain things leaking out at that time"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "that they wanted to gaslight people on."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "So I I'm just saying it's more"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "complicated than"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> people want very simplistic non-nuanced"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:34", "text": ">> idiotic answers to very complex problems"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "and I can tell you that this is a puzzle"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "palace like that book about the national"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "security agency called the p this this"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "is such a hall of smoke and mirrors and"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "deception that anything that comes along"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "ultimately the most difficult part of"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "this is the intelligence assessment. And"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "this is why in 1991 I wrote a paper"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "called the comprehensive assessment of"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "the UFO ETI extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "intelligence subject. And I can tell you"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "that that went all through the aerospace"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "and the intelligence community and uh I"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "had people contact me and said, \"This is"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "the most accurate assessment any of us"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "have ever read. How the hell do you know"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "this?\" And that was in in 1991."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "Um, in fact, Dr. Robert Woods, who"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "worked for Macdonald Douglas, point"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "blank said, uh, because he had been"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "asked by old man of McDonald Douglas to"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "look into this and research it. And Dr."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Woods was a aerospace"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "science guy."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> Right. I' I've been working with his son"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "on the BBS facility. Yeah, he's"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "fantastic. Great guy."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> And and he said, you know, we've never"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "seen anything quite this accurate. How"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "do you know it?"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": ">> Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> I think so. We just keep trying to build"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "uh I call it the disclosure mosaic. you"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "know, there's a million little pieces uh"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "that we've accumulated and then try and"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "put them together uh into a picture."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "Factoring in that in in order for this"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "to uh be controlled by the people"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "controlling it, they need to create"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "enough false information with the real"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "information to steer it in their"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "direction. And that's what's been going"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "on. This is why the CIA, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "psychological warfare division started"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "doing alien abductions using advanced"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "technologies that look human, uh, that"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "look alien, that are humanmade craft,"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "using all kinds of what's called stage"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "craft. And that began in the in the"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "early 60s and onward. Um, and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "still going on. The mutilations of"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "cattle, we know who's done that. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "all human. It's not alien. Um, people,"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "oh, it's an alien harvest. They say,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "\"Yeah, no, I didn't. Sorry to tell you.\""}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "So, this is this gets into this whole"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "thing of of if you have a small"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "community of amateur investigators"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "in the UFO subculture that doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "proper funding and is easily gaslit and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "deceived. But you also embed within that"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "community people who are knocks"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "nonofficial cover who provide false"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "to the public and to their fellow"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "researchers. And this is exactly what"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "happened. So I I guess people would say"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "I'm the biggest skeptic ever and I am"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "but only because I've been at this since"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "1990. And what I've discovered is that"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "you have to be very careful. So when you"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "talk about a case like uh the Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "case, it's not as simple as it looks."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:47", "text": ">> And u I think that uh people often uh"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "like Bob wouldn't even know if they were"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "being played in some sort of a scop,"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> Because the best people in those scops"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "don't know they are."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": ">> They're purveyors of of intel or or or"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "disinformation or partial true and"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "partial false information. strategically"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "but but there there that that decision"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "is being made at a level way above there"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "and so the people who have run those"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "sort of SCOPs I have I do know uh and"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "have known for decades and they have"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "really tutored me since the ' 90s and"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "how that game is played. So"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> yeah, and the last thing on Bob is that"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "that is just raises my eyebrow and I"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "think people will agree that a fact that"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "he was he has done 20 interviews over 30"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "years yet he will not just sit"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "shoulder-to-shoulder with a physicist"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "and that he refuses that he just made"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "the statement two days ago he would not"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "testify before Congress. So that the"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "final uh verdict is my my eyebrow gets"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "raised on both of those facts and that's"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "my final say. Yeah. and and it's it's a"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "big problem and I think that uh this is"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "why the most celebrate it's like what's"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "going on now."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": ">> We're sitting on dozens and dozens of"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "the hottest whistleblowers in the"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "history of the subject in 80 years."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> And they won't be called to a hearing"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "and then you have people who are UFO"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "journalists up on a hearing yesterday."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": ">> Something's very wrong. Something's very"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "wrong with this picture."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> No one would decide. I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "care if I ever get called. I have no"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "interest. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "I would if they did, but it wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "a pretty picture because I'd rip apart"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "the whole thing. But I will tell you"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "right now that the people who are the"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "real deal that are in our witness pool,"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "that number in the hundreds."}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": ">> Go to our archive. There are 115 or 120"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "witnesses and whistleblowers name rank"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "serial number with their interviews and"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "transcripts for the whole world to see"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "that are extraordinarily more"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "consequential than anything these"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "hearings are pulling you bringing in"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "front of them. Why? This makes no sense"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "to anyone who would just dispassionately"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "look at it there. There's something very"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "fishy going on. So, uh, this is where I"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "think the public needs to have their"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "eyes wide open and and realize that, uh,"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "something is thinking in Denmark when"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "when a group like ours goes in and I've"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "been in skiffs and you hand over 50 high"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "value targets who have been chairman of"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "major corporations with the documents"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "and the proof who need and want to be"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "subpoenaed before they go to the grave."}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "and they won't be called. And then you"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "have someone who's a UFO journalist on a"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "panel under oath. I'm sorry. The So"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "these are the sorts of things that make"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "you wonder what's really going on here."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "I mean I I mean it it just is so bizarre"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "to anyone who knows the truth."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": ">> Yeah. But uh at the same time uh I'm not"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "giving up on it because there are some"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "very very good people uh on those"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "committees who are sincerely trying to"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "get to the truth and and we're we're"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "cooperating with that and just as there"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "have been with the the the Senate uh you"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "know intelligence committee and you know"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the co-chair uh Mr. Rubio, who's now"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Secretary of State, had a very keen"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "interest in this and received a great"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "deal of information. Um, and uh, so did"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Mark Warner, who had been chairman back"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "until the the election changed the"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "leadership in the h in the Senate. And,"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "uh, so, you know, there are people who"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "who have been trying to get to the"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "bottom of this, you know, who are, I"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "think, sincere. Uh, and and we have to"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "just keep that moving forward. But we"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "also have to question, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "kind of decision making has led to"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "certain people who take over these"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "public events."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": ">> And and then water them down to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "something that anyone who knows"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "anything. I mean, basically, if you've"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "seen"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": ">> turning into a popularity contest, not"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "who has the most knowledge in,"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": ">> you know, with this phenomenon. Well,"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "that would be Dr. Greer. He's got over a"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "tetra of information. Okay, let's bring"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "in George Knap, the reporter. I I I am I"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "am a basic human being."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Right."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> That what I just said makes me want to"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "take a hammer and and and because that's"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "a better idea hitting my head with a"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "hammer than what happened yesterday. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "sorry I'm your I'm your friend, but you"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "but I think most people would agree with"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": ">> Yeah. In a way it's it's not about me at"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "all. It's about the evidence and the the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "science of course. I mean, right, u you"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "know, I what I've tried to do is get to"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "the truth by"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": ">> uh debriefing and interviewing and"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "getting the testimony and the proof from"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "a thousand different people who've been"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "in these projects. And when I first"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "started out, I debriefed people who were"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "present at Roswell. They were at the"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "original 1995 gathering in aar,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "California that I I g I put together in"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "1995, 30 years ago in June. some of them"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "a and guys who worked on the technology"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "in the 50s who I debriefed who were in"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "their 80s who have since died. So my"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "whole purpose is to go to the direct"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "firsthand people dealing directly with"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "these operations at that level,"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": ">> And I've been doing it for over 30 uh"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "years and we have all that information."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "But what's interesting is that the"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "bureaucracy and the administrative staff"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "and what have you tends to always push"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "that aside and then they put forward"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "witnesses who either like Mike Gold that"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "they had last time that don't doesn't"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "know anything because I know him or or"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "people who are journalists or people had"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "minor sightings and events as opposed to"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "people who actually worked in the"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "programs. I have I have a colonel from"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "Edwards who used to manage the pilots"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "who flew the man-made UFOs out of"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "Edwards complex."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": ">> That's shocking."}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": ">> And the skunk works. So, it's like why"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "aren't we hearing from them? What?"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Hello. Knock knock, you know."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "So, this gets to be, you know, uh, kind"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "of mind-boggling"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "uh, to anyone who knows the real inside"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "story, which of course the members and"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "people who see this on YouTube will"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "understand. But, um, but we're not going"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "to give up. We're just going to keep"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "moving forward little by little. And I"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "appreciate your hard work."}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": ">> Thank you. That means a lot. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "send us that uh log entry from EG&G that"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": ">> I will I sent you another one on a"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "Stanton how the first victor we thought"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "was and I will send I want to get it"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "clear with my producer. I will send it"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "to Raven when when we end. I will send"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "you the EG&G entry log for Area 51 for"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Victor. Ladies and gentlemen, Stanton"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "John Willlet of either Phoenix or"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Cukamonga, California. So crazy as that"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "sounds."}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's cor that's right."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "So, that's that's the sort of"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "documentation you want to get and Yes,"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "sir. Connecting the dots. Yes. Great"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "work. All right."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:06", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": ">> Well, thank everyone for being here and"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "the members. Thank you guys for joining"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "us. And for those of you viewing this on"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "YouTube, stay tuned."}]

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So this is where you"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "have an upside down system where the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "people's representatives"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "get uh overrun. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> By uh bureaucrats that are in the in the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "administrative end of things, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "sort of astonishing. Most people"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "wouldn't believe it, but I talk to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "members of Congress and senators all the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "time, and this is routinely happens"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "because these bad actors have embedded"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "non-official cover, knocks, on the staff"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "of key committees and members of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Congress to block and change things all"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "the time. The the system is it's like a"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "metastatic cancer where the whole system"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "is riddled with these sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "operatives. And that's what happens. It"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "is a metastatic cancer that's gotten out"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "of control. And I think that most people"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "don't realize that a member of Congress"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "by himself or herself can only do so"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "much. But I'm hoping still that they can"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "continue on and make some progress."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Well, well, let's pivot to you."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> I can call you eventually."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Oh, I don't Can I just say something for"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "30 seconds? I find I'm not"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> I am not gonna This is not a self pat,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "but I'm sorry, folks. Um, I find it very"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "ironic. You have five people testifying"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "yesterday with no documents. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "know, very little experience. And you"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "have two people right now on the camera,"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "uh, myself and Dr. Greer who who who one"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "of our main tenants is that we have"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "documents. We have the foyas. We have,"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "uh, leaked information that uh, that is"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "firsthand knowledge. You're talking"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "about two men right now that could go to"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Congress with inches thick dossas and"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "and I agree with and I hear your"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "frustration by the way as your friend."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> I hear your frustration the the tetra uh"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "plus of a a dossier that you have and"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "and my inches thick dossier of of code"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "names and facilities and whistleblower"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "names and and we're on the sideline and"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "these people are called um with stories."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "So I I I I just want to say I I"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "understand your frustration. I feel it"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "too and it's uh and and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "criminal. So borderline more"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "metaphorically criminal. So I just"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "wanted to say that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> the more more things change, the more"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "they stand up."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> You got it. I mean if you if you were to"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "press the rewind button to the fake"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "hearings of the 60s and 70s, it wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "be any different than now,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> I mean it's like but nobody knows this"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "history. This is the other problem."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "There's a posity of institutional memory"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "in the Congress and in the public and in"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "the media of the way this game has been"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "played all the way from the 50s till"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> And it's pretty much the same playbook,"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "but nobody knows the prior operational,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "you know, manual and they're just making"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the same mistakes over and over and over"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "and over and over again. And uh it's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "it's if it wasn't tragic and so"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "dangerous for our future, it'd be"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "comical because there's no real great"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "mystery uh to how to set this up. But"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "every panel and every hearing that's"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "ever happened on this subject has ended"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "up being uh diverted into this uh"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "there's nothing here to see or gee, we"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "don't know. Yeah, we do know. And one of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "the things the night before I was"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "talking to some people who were going to"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "be at the hearing and they said you know"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "about the phenomena. I said which"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "phenomena and they said what do you"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "mean? I said well UAP is a is a is a"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "waste basket term like UFO. There are"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "three things going on. There's"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "extraterrestrial, there's"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "interdimensional, separate, and there's"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "man-made, which is the dominant thing"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "that people are seeing now. Or the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "man-made things, objects, and the ones"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "from other dimensional uh"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "extradimensional"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "originate in another dimensional, but"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "not another star system. An"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "extraterrestrial interstellar system,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "traverses other dimensions to get from"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "there to here, but originates from"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "another planet and star system. but is"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "not based in another dimension. Now,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "most people, these three major"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "categories that all the different UFO"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "phenomenon fall into, they're not even"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "asking the question, what part of this"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "is this from? Because they don't even"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> And I liken it to a doctor who is do"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "someone comes in, you know, I'm an"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "emergency guy with chest pain and you"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "say, \"Oh, it's a heart attack.\" And you"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "give them, you know, the tpa and the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "dissolve the clot. Well, it actually"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "maybe it was a dissecting thoracic"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "aneurysm and you give that and they're"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "dead in five minutes,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> So, you have a bunch of unskilled"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "physicians"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "up there who don't even know that there"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "are three major categories of phenomena"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "plural going on all being labeled the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "same thing. So, this is like day one of"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "kindergarten. This is like learning your"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "your your your uh your alphabet and how"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "to add a one and one is two."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> But be honest with you, the UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "subculture and the people in there uh at"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "these committees, they don't even know"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "this what I just said. I would say that"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "99% of everyone in the UFO subculture"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "don't know what I just said."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> And you remember Do you remember the day"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "that you were schooling me about that?"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> This this guy Dr. Greer has extreme"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "extreme amount of patience, ladies and"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "gentlemen. I can tell you but you're"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "right and I you have to"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> it's a paradigm. It it blows people's"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "minds."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> You have to know what you're dealing"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "with categorically and and and and on"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "every level. And I could not agree more."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> But there's no critical here's the"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "problem right now. Anything that goes"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "bump in the night that's like something"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "out of Stranger Things"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Yeah. that the Netflix movie like the"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Montto experiments that were from other"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "dimensions. Those weren't"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "extraterrestrials, but they're real and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "they're creepy,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> but everyone would call it an alien, but"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "it's not."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> Okay, so this is not helpful if you're"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "trying to be scientific and specific and"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "have discernment, but this is now uh a"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "very very I think politically incorrect"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "to have any discernment or information"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "or knowledge about anything. And as"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Patrick Daniel Mona, the senator, senior"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "senator from New York said, \"Everyone's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "entitled to their own opinion, but not"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "their own set of facts.\""}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> What is your fact line again? Don't"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "bother me. Can you say that again?"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> No one's will nobody's willing to look"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "at the facts. And so I just don't"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> Don't bother me with facts."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Don't my fact my opinion's"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "made up."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> So I think this is another big problem."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Um but you know, look, all we can do is"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "continue to advise. Luckily, you will"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "notice in the hearing and we can put a"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "link to this Raven in in this show uh we"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "had pro sented to the committee and to"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "uh Congressman Berles uh about a 10page"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "uh of report for the record and he held"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "it up and it was submitted and Luna"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "accepted it and it actually has some of"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "these whistleblowers named and some are"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "codenamed uh in there and then a sort of"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "a cover letter from me that explains"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "explains all of this. But um so that's"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "in the congressional record and"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "everybody can see it. I think even"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "before they had the hearing, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "something like 12 or 13,000 people had"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "downloaded it and hundreds of thousands"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "had viewed it. But I think this is, you"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "know, we need we'll just continue to"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "submit this sort of information and then"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "hope for the best and say a prayer. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "a hell Mary pass at this point."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> Dr. Before Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> I do think the big action isn't going to"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "happen uh necessarily there. the big"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "actions happening at the executive"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "branch level and law enforcement and um"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "I can't go too much into that but I will"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "tell you that it's very big progress and"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "very promising extremely promising. So"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "let's get to your case. I mean why don't"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "you start at the beginning uh of this"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "strange case boy"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> you know just the facts outline it you"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "know when it started"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> when it happened. First time I'm ever"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "going to do that. Just fact-based. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "hold the hyperbole. Your your viewers"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "don't uh deserve that. I know for a fact"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "that this is this broadcast between"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "yourself and I"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> um have uh a lot of eyes on it and I and"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "I understand that and I'm very cognizant"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "of that. And I just want to tell people"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the footage you may be what you are"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "about to witness is is potentially jaw"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "jaw-dropping if you've never seen it"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "before. This is not a CGI alien"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "interview that floated around 5 years"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "ago. This is something very old, very"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "non CGI. And I just want everyone to"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "know it's very important."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> Let's just go through the facts. I want"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "I want you to"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> I just wanted to just preface this is"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "that I went at this as a true scientific"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "investigator thinking I was going to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "prove it was a hoax. And I'm 6 years"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "$27,000"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "later and I have I I cannot prove this"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "is a is a hoax. It's actually The needle"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "is buried the other way. On that note,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the alien interview, we think that it"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "started in 1997 with this mockumentary"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "that was on TV and it it didn't. it uh"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "in 1986 a former CIA pilot John Lear"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "goes on George Knap's sublevision"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "uh news program and talks about that a a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "videotape of an extraterrestrial out at"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "S force south of Area 51 has been"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "garnered and it's going to be and it's"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "going to be exposed to the public."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "That's in 1986."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "1988 allegedly people like Bill Moore,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "some uh journalists allegedly were going"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "to be flown to Washington DC to view"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "this alien interview tape um on behalf"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "of the United States government. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "stock market crashed. This was this was"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "would have been in ' 87. the stock"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "market crashed and that meeting that in"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "in incredible meeting was cancelled in"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "1989. Uh Bob Lazar steps forward talks"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "about S4 a facility that John Leer was"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "talking about. So there's there's a"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "repetitive theme here that there is this"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "super secret facility south of Area 51"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "and people don't even know what Area 51"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "is yet. I find that oddly uh I find that"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "oddly uh informative."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "In 1991, from our investigation on April"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "22nd uh at 3:15 in the afternoon, a"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "interstellar hloid other gray alien, tan"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "in color, round eyes was brought into"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the interrogation suite at we what we"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "now know um under the building in the"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "facility S2 Alpha. Uh there we have been"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "told there is no S4 with hangers in the"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "mountains so on and so forth. That the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "AHC, the alien housing center is is as"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "bizarre and and and crazy as that"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "sounds, resides under a building south"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "of Area 51 called S2 Alpha. In in the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "homage of Dr. my friend Dr. Greer, we"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "have the foyer of that facility being"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "built in the early 60s. Very important."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Next to that facility is the American"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Pathology Institute, which we have also"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "found that many of these alleged"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "retention facilities for living"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "extraterrestrials allegedly, ladies and"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "gentlemen, also have a company next"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "door, adjacent to some sort of bio"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "research pathological facility. I find"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "that again oddly coincidental."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "This film, this this film, unbeknownst"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "to the DIA, which runs the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "retention and uh and interrogation"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "program under Project Aquarius, Dr. G is"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "very familiar with the Defense"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Intelligence Agency. Um this film was"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "stolen because a very small secret cabal"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "of men, a biologist two centuries and we"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "think under the tacit um wink of the"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "project leader a major Thomas Mack who"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "was with the air force advisory"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "scientific committee. He was the pro"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "project leader of project Aquarius where"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "this alien retention and um uh facility"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "was housed and project Aquarius uh was"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "all things extraterrestrial. All things"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "extraterrestrial contact with homo"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "sapiens sapiens. Under that we had"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "project looking glass Galileo and on and"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "on."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "This film of this being, which Raven"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "will show, uh, uh, was then leaked and"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "smuggled off of Area 51."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Go back. What when what was the date of"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the interview and the film and when it"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "was actually created?"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> Yeah. This this interview, this film"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "you're about to see was created. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "very late in the series with this being"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "late into the telepathic thought"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "projection interviews with this being."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "It came to the facility in 1989. This is"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "April 22nd, 1991"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "at um 3:15 in the afternoon made created"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "for the question submitted for the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Department of Naval Intelligence, which"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "officially to this day doesn't exist. I"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "am so proud to say that we have proved"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "beyond a doubt the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Intelligence exists and does prove a"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "tenant of Bob Lazar's story. This film"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "was snuck off the base. It was it was"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "cap captured uh held for five years. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "and in 1996"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> So let's go back. Wait, wait. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> I mean I want I'm very much forensic."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "I'm a doctor."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> Um who took it off the base and what's"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "the provenance of the film? Provenance"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "meaning the authenticity of its chain of"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "custody etc."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": ">> Right. the United States. We um and I"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "this is jumping forward a little bit,"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "but we got a document that talked about"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "the providence, the chain of events, how"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "the theft occurred. The theft occurred"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "almost moviees like um it was actually"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "let out of S S2 alpha because you don't"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "you are weighed in the nude and when you"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "come in you are waiting in the nude when"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "you come out. Nothing is getting out of"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "this facility. I think everyone would"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "probably understand that this one of the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "cabal members, the disgruntled"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "employees, was the United States Air"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Force cameraman who we have never known."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "He is the hero in all of this. He took a"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "threeinut snippet of this film. And that"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "is what he brought to Las Vegas and and"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "took it off base in a he first put it"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "into a burn bag in a GSA approved vault,"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "held it for 3 days, and then he snuck"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "that burn bag in his gym bag off of the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "base of Area 51. We have talked with"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "seven people that have been at Area 51"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "in the '9s. They all said the same"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "narrative. Times it was draconian. Times"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "the the outlying security was lats."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Sometimes the guards checked your purse,"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "sometimes they didn't check your purse"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "or your briefcase. I found that"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "striking. And that's how this 3minut"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "segment of this film left the base."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "It was brought to to Las Vegas. Was that"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "film VHS or was it actually"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> Great question. We have proven beyond a"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "shadow of a doubt. Three forensic and"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "film video experts all say that this"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "film was originally on 16 mm film, not"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "VHS, ladies and gentlemen. And we have"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "found out that in 1991 the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "government, audio visualization"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "department of the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "government and EGNG, which did the super"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "secret filming for the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "government. remember EG&G cuz this is"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "where the whistleblower comes in"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": ">> that they were still using 16 mm film."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": ">> So that's very very important to"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "remember that that this completely jives"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "in and and and and completely walks in"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "lock step with what the government was"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "using in 1991. And if this was a hoax"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "started in 1996, it was very very hard"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "for anyone to find any film stock"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "footage that was 16 millimeter to use in"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "let's say a mockumentary."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "Dr. Greer, we we move forward to 1996."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "1996 in the spring. an alleged former"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "government employee, uh, dressed in a"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "three-piece suit, wearing a ponytail,"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "uh, a counterculture type person, highly"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "educated, starts making the rounds in"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Hollywood to sell this threeminute tape."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "This is coming on the heels of the alien"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "interview."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": ">> He gets a meeting with Fox, Jaime"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Darnell, and their unscripted television"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "department. This is bizarre."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> They can't uh they cannot guarantee his"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "safety. They cannot guarantee his"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "anonymity. They think that he's a little"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "weird, that uh he's a pain in the I will"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "refrain from swearing. And they"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "basically shoe him out of the Fox studio"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "lot. This former government employee"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "allegedly walks across the street. He"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "gets Variety magazine because he his"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "mission is to sell this and put this on"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "TV and expose this to the world. He sees"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "a video production company. This is very"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "important. a second tier video"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "production company that is putting out a"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "a Rodney Dangerfield comedic golf video."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "And he thinks to himself, well, if Fox"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "is not going to help me, maybe somebody"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "lowered down the food chain, and I would"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "agree with this, would help me and would"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "put this out. He calls, he talks to the"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "CEO, Tom Coleman, who I've been in"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "contact with for six years. Six years."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "They bring him in. They pop in this VHS"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "tape. They see this bizarre alien uh"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "being interviewed looking, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "very bizarrely into the camera. The the"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "the footage is a blue hue which I gave"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "to Raven. This is one of the big tenants"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "of the skeptics. It's darkened. It must"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "be a puppet. The original VHS had a blue"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "hue clearly showing the thorax and the"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "arms and the shoulders and of course the"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "neck and the head. It looks like a"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "closed circuit television camera. This"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "is how it originally came to Rocket"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Pictures, not the darkened film. Rocket"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Pictures production did that for"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "theatrical effect. They find the same"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "thing that Fox does. This Victor is"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "weird. He he won't yet get it give his"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "real name. He doesn't drive. They make"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "an agreement for payment. We think$25 to"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "$30,000 because it's the follow the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "money in this. how we prove there is not"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "the amount of money garnered to warrant"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "doing something like this. It just costs"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "too much. And Victor produces a tattered"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "social security card with the name. And"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "I I jump forward, but I this is this is"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "why I came on with a tattered social"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "security card named Stanton John"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "Willillet with a 262 prefix, which means"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "he was originally born in Florida. And"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "the director was defiant. The first name"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "was Stanton, not John. cuz we found a"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "John Stanton willlet. He leaves. He"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "comes back and they do a unrehearsed,"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "very important, unrehearsed hour and a"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "half on Coast to Coast Artbell where"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Victor is taking unrehearsed questions"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "so eloquently that people are saying,"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "\"This this guy sounds like a project"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "manager of a government program. This"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "guy sounds like my boss at Rathon. uh"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "this guy is is scientific in nature. Two"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "months later, the documentary comes out"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "on the UPN network, not Fox, on a"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "program called Strange Universe, and"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "they paid Rocket Pictures for this"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "1-hour documentary. So, the in in"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "Reicher Entertainment, which had Strange"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Universe, was on the ropes financially."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "Again, follow the money. In my case, the"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "lack of the money. We see this video,"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "doctor. It's bizarre. It's a It's a It's"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "a tan alien, not gray. Why would you"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "hoax a video with a tan alien and not"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "have a typical gray? It has round eyes."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "The skin is moving and oscillating"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "around the ocular cavity and around the"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "eyes. The mouth is opening and closing"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "seamlessly. Once you once you zoom into"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "the mouth, unlike any animatronic being"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "that we've ever seen up to this point,"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "black foam is coming out of its mouth as"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "discharge. Medics come in. Victor tells"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "us that the bean um had a had microbes"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "um form colonies in its respiratory"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "system. And this is why it was having"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "some sort of a a respiratory attack. And"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "the thrust of my of my first"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "investigation, this green bizarre"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "alleged physiological monitor is next to"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "the beam with the blip, the"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "physiological blip going up and down. It"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "is moving off the off the screen bottom."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "It is not holding on to the bottom like"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "a regular EKG or um or or any kind of"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "physiological monitor that we see. very"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "bizarre, green in nature and it seems to"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "be coinciding more erratic with the"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "beans coughing and EMT and doctors that"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "we showed this to were perplexed and"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "said all of them and Haime Mousan showed"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "this to 13 cardiotheroric surgeons and"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "cardiovascular surgeons who all said"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "this being is having some sort of"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "cardiovascular event and that blip is is"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "is seemingly to be in sync with the"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "coughs of this being. a very bizarre the"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "the the video ends. Victor says, you"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "know, do what you want with the film."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "Um, investigate me. Um, I'm coming out"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "because I don't believe that the"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "government should have hold this"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "knowledge against the American people"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "that the government people running this"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "program are very average intellectually"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "at the top. Uh, Victor comes across as"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "very bitter, very angry and highly"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "intelligent. And he uses two words and I"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "could not have a person in front of me"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "to had to talk to this about. He says"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "and this is what struck me in 97 being"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "have no idea about euphology. He said"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "the being starts to medically flag and I"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "remember this on my couch watching it"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "and going that is an odd term. I have"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "never heard of that term. I know"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Hollywood. I know screenwriting writers."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "I don't think a 20-some year old writer"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "could think of the word medically flag"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "or the term something that I've never"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "heard before. I've heard flagging of"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "course and then he says the being was in"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "the interview suite. He doesn't say"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "room. He doesn't say in the interview um"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "the interview level calls it a suite"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "which is a much more comfortable"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "accommodation. For some reason those two"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "words struck me. Months later I'm having"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "a regular checkup. My physician at the"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "time in 97 is a was a doctor in Korea"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "and I said, \"Dr. Z, what is medically"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "flagging?\""}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "Dr. Greer, he he reeled back to me. He"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "goes, \"Where did you hear that from?\""}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "And I said, \"It was in a documentary,"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "but they said it's a hoax and and and"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "this whistleblower is a hoax.\" And he"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "goes, \"I haven't heard that since"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Korea.\" That's a medical terminology"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "from that was used a lot in the"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "government and in my time in Korea. I I"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "I said, \"Would a 20some year old writer"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "know that terminology?\" This is before"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "Wikipedia or the Urban Dictionary. And"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "this and his my doctor's reaction to"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "that terminology simply made me say, \"I"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "don't know when, but something is weird"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "with this video. The doctors are not in"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "pressurized suits to really hype up the"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "hoax. There are two military army"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "officers in the foreground only showing"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "their shoulders. Why would you dress"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "them in in in in army attire and and not"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "show their whole body? The alien is tan."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "What is going on with this film? And I"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "just knew in the back of my mind, I'll"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "pause here that eventually one day I"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "would research to find out what the"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "truth is. Not if it's real, but what the"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "truth is. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "So, uh what is the state of the research"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "at this point about this uh film"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": ">> before John Stewart hits it in 2019? Let"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "me tell you one more very quick quick"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "information. Victor comes back"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> out of time soon."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Okay. So, let's let's let's"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "let's for let's jump first. Okay. I I I"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "researched the monitor. Hulet Packard."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Um uh people doing their PhD in"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "physiological monitors have no idea what"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "that monitor is. Remember a second tier"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "production company. Whitley Streer"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "Streber comes forward in 2016 and says I"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "think this film my alien interview is"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "real. I saw that green blip in the"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "corner of my eye as I was writing the"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "book Communion. I think it's a way that"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "communicate with human beings. I never"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "told anybody. So, how did this second"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "tier video production company know to"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "put that bizarre green blip in its"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "video? Folks, you can't get around that."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "Okay, we had the film analyzed 16"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "millimeter from Bill Mums, who National"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "Geographics hired for their video"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "documentation for a Bigfoot film. Don't"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "laugh. This is National Geographic. Bill"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "Mums said, \"There's a head scratcher."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "That alien does not have any indents or"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "creases in its armpits. Every foam,"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "latex, dow, animatronic puppet has"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "creases from the 50s until two hours"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "ago. And I don't know how a second tier"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "production company could reinvent foam"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "latex dolls. We got the proof that it's"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "not S4, Bob Lazar's S4, that it's S2"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "alpha. We have proof that the Department"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "of Naval Intelligence is real. Aviator"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "said aviator told us he was recruited by"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "the DNI. We found the Department of"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "Naval Intelligence, not office,"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "department, in a conference brochure in"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "in Canada with a major penzel um"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "representing the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "Intelligence and a CIA director level"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "retired uh uh personnel told me in an"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "off-handed conversation, \"Yes, the DNI"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "is real. It's an agency buried inside"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "the Department of Navy.\" How did Bob"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "Lazar know that? And more importantly,"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "how why would this video production"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "company have the guts to put a a unknown"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "hoaxed three-letter anacarim of a"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "department that doesn't exist on the"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "bottom of the film and that signature"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "owner signature on the bottom of the"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "film? The DNI27"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "cost like $3,000 back then. When you"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "have no money, I don't think a video"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "production company would spend the money"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "to emlaze in a DNI. And the number 27,"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "which is, in my opinion, the bombshell."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "We find out that the code the code to"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "get into this facility, the alien"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "retention in and and interrogation uh"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "facility, the code is Yankee White,"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "Yankee Black. Dr. Ger, do you know what"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "the numerical number of that code is?"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Meaning if you don't have this level of"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "of above top secret clearance, you"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "cannot get into this program and see or"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "watch any documentation of this program."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "That level number is number 27. I ask"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "your viewers, how could a cheesy video"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "production company know that the 30"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "years later that the actual numerical"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "number, the security number to that was"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "for Yankee White, which means contact"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "with the president to get into to see"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "this retention and interrogation"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "interview program is the number 27. I I"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "just don't believe that that that that"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "that is absolutely even remotely"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "possible. Other queer things have"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "happened, doctor, in the past five"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "years. We have a guy that does reverse"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "speech on CIA agents, presidents,"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "astronauts. He says, I think every"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "whistleblower come for coming forward in"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "euphology is full of it. But there's one"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "guy I believe because of his reverse"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "speech, whether you believe in this"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "science or not, and he said, \"Do you"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "know the whistleblower Victor? I believe"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "that man is telling the truth.\" His"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "reverts speech said they are in my head"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "in zeta reticuli. Allegedly the star"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "system where this extraterrestrial this"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "hoid it was only carried one sexual"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "chromosome allegedly came from. This"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "reverse speech said the only person in"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "eupfology I think telling the truth is"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "the whistleblower viewer is Victor."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "We've had two sets of remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "groups in blind studies who all took on"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "this challenge, not knowing what they"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "were seeing. They were describing a tan"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "being, a being in distress, a being that"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "was terrified. Um, which I thought was"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "phenomenal. He was in a no man's land,"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "which is Papoose Lake. It's a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "fallout area. Yep."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": ">> And I find and I find that remark. I"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "find that absolutely. Two groups, blind"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "study, both said the same thing. making"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "Richard Dolan come forward publicly to"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "say, \"I thought John Stewart was crazy."}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "This film has got to be real.\" Let me"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "lastly say one more thing. Um, as I"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "bypassed a lot of the research, but but"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "but that's fine. And and and and that is"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "this. Um, we finally found Stanton John"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "Willlet. He is on an EG&G entry log for"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "Area 51. I am proud to say that I am to"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "this under my opinion the only person to"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "bring out a document that ever was"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "sitting at Area 51. The entry log of"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "Stanton John Willlet. He was a real"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "person. He could have gotten into Area"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "51 with a legal government assumed name."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "So we do say do realize that that could"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "be possible. Right"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:17", "text": ">> in the entry log from the time frame it"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "was from 88 to 93. He was working for"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "EG&G and I have the paper. He is he was"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "there at Area 51 uh which which which is"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "which is a bonafide that he was telling"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "the director of this of this documentary"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "the truth that his name was Stanton John"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "Willlet. We have spent thousands of"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "dollars looking for him. He has been"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "bleached. He has been sheep dipped. But"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "we do know his last location for the OA"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> Those words mean you need to say what"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "bleached and sheep dipped."}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": ">> Okay. Bleached and sheep dipped is a is"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "an intelligence jargon, an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "phrase, meaning they wipe out any bit of"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "your biography that would lead anyone"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "researching you back to the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "covert project that you were part of."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "Bleaching sheep dip. These are two"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "intelligence words. And we have had"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "intelligence people tell us that without"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "a doubt, Victor has been sheep dipped."}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "We have the stenographer. Folks, please"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "listen to me. The stenographer a month"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "ago came forward to me who who"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "transcribed the note cards from military"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "people or intell communicating thought"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "projection with these beings. She said,"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "\"My particular being was afraid. This"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "was his first mission. He was confused."}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "It was a hard landing. He was not the"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "the leader of the group. It was his"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "fault. He is afraid. He is sick. He is"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "dying. He is alone and he wonders where"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "the rest of the crew of that ship is."}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "And we have also interviewed two of the"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "widows of the telepath. I want to say"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "the jaw-dropping when when Raven shows"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "the footage, you're going to see two"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "medics come in. The doctor on the bean's"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "right shoulder to our left is named Dr."}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "Wilfford Webb Wilson. We have spoken to"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "his widow. She has identified that that"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "is her husband, an US Air Force military"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "doctor. She has identified that that is"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "her husband on the bean's right. She"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "said he was super secretive. It almost"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "cost their marriage because of how"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "secretive he was. And she thanked me for"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "solving, think about this, for solving a"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "family secret. And she now understands"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "why her husband Webb Wilson, Dr. Web"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "Wilson died tied in 2014 on the right of"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "that bean was so secretive. I just want"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "to ask you a question ladies and"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "gentlemen. How could we have an actual"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "United States Air Force doctor"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "identified by his wife in a fake alleged"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "faked alien video? I I I'm sorry. I I"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "just don't find any of my information"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "going at it like a hoax to drive. I I"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "gave up because I can't find anybody"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "with credible information to tell me why"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "particularly that video is a hoax."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": ">> Well, I mean, this is, you know, but"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "part of it is that did you mention that"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "someone actually obtained the original"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "16mimeter film"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> or where is that film?"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": ">> The 16 millimeter film is its"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "disposition right now is unknown. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "we have the original VHS tape from"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "Victor with the blue hue. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "startling. It's closed circuit"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "televisionesque"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "looking looking footage. You could tell"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "this was taken um off of some closed"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "circuit camera facility or copied off of"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "16 mm onto um onto"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": ">> this is your classic. Let's talk about"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "some big picture things here for a"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "moment while we still have a little"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "time. Um"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": ">> first of all, EG&G is a prime contractor"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "and has been since the 50s at least out"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "in that area. Uh that area is an old"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "facility, so-called area 51. It's a"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "grid. Um the more important areas are"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "523 out near uh the lake and also Groom"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "Lake and uh"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:16", "text": ">> Tonapa. Tonapa still active on that"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "side."}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": ">> Yes. And Cahoot Mesa, Groom Lake. Those"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "are the more critical areas. Um but uh"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "we do know from current whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "we're working with who are still alive"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "that a number of these facilities do"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "have living uh extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "biological entities that are have been"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "are being interrogated and tortured. Um"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "and uh they're euphemistically called"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "refugees but they're ones that have"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "survived the targeting and downing of"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicles. Now I have"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "been at two black sites where the"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "electromagnetic pulse uh and scalar"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "weapons have been deployed to down these"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "objects um about two years ago. Actually"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "this month uh I was at these two places"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "and in fact um the operators out there"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "said point blank that there were uh"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "often ones that did not survive the"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "downing but when they do they are"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "captured and they are retained in these"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "facilities"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "um and that there are a number of them"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "still living that need to be uh freed"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "and liberated. Uh this is something that"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "has been kicked over to the law"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "enforcement strike team people, tactical"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "teams that I'm been advising. Uh at a"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "certain point that needs to happen um"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "because it's a atrocity what's going on."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": ">> Um and and don't forget all the way back"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "to the 40s with the uh events in New"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "Mexico. We had an Army intelligence man"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "surface before he died who saw one of"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "the last living uh uh ETs from the"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "Roswell event or somewhere in New"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "Mexico. He's pretty sure it was Roswell"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "at Camp Perry here in Virginia that was"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "in a a cage with wearing"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:08", "text": ">> boxer shorts. Right. Right. This the"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> Yes. And he"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": ">> It's crazy."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:15", "text": ">> And and he said it was sad and that was"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "in 1951."}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "So we do know that this is the standard"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "operating procedure of debriefing,"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "torturing. Many of them don't survive."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": ">> Thank you for saying that."}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": ">> But this is so so all of that is not"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "unusual as the bizarre as this whole"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "story is,"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:32", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:35", "text": ">> Um you know, and one thing I will say,"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "uh so many times evidence that's good is"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "handled in a way and then broadcast in"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "tabloid media. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": ">> Or in the UFO subculture in a way that"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "then discredits it. In other words, the"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "evidence in itself on its own would be"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "okay, but it's handled in a way that"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "would lead any rational scientist or"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "political leader to conclude it was"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "rubbish. So, this is the uh as as Lord"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "Hill Norton, who is the five-star"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "admiral, the sea lord who used to be"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "head of the Ministry of Defense in Great"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "Britain, who I met with years ago in the"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "90s, he said it's the rubbishing of the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "matter in the tabloids."}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "he called it the rubbishing of the"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "matter. So, so unfortunately often what"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "will happen is that some very good"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "evidence uh in a very unsophistic"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "unsophisticated way by people who obtain"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "it ends up getting handled in a way that"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "discredits it even if it's real. And"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "that is what's happened with this and"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "many other cases uh that I know I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "aware of. And and I think this is one of"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "the real problems with this subject. Um"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "we do know that for example that kind of"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "outlet versus 60 minutes will cover uh"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "something like this or the National"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "Inquirer was set up by SCOP uh guy from"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "the CIA. It was an MIT guy who was CIA"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "psychological warfare division who set"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "up the National Inquirer explicitly so"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "that these sort of stories could get"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "tracked into a tabloid that even if they"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "were true, of course it was some false"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "stuff, some real stuff, but the real"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "stuff would be immediately neutralized"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "by guilty by association. Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "And that's that's why uh this this"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "organization is very crafty at being"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "sure being sure that uh the most"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "ridiculous stuff gets pushed to the"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "front and the real stuff is suppressed"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "or can only come out through a tabloid"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "like the National Enquirer or something."}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "So this is a pattern I'm trying to give"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "people here's here's one of the things"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "that that we all have to do. We have to"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "start making these bigger assessments of"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "how counterintelligence and"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "disinformation works because as"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "disclosure,"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "I think it's almost certain that it's"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "all going to come out in the next 6"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "months to two years. But if it comes out"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "the way that they're trying to spin it"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "into this direction of a threat and all"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "kinds of false information,"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": ">> I see what you're saying. Okay. the real"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "information is going to get completely"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "attached to uh the false information."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": ">> And the real information will then"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "empower the false narrative. And this is"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "exactly what we see going on now with"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "these, you know, the spin misters"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "and whatnot, right? So, I think that's"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "that's one of the things people need to"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "look"}]

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Most people"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "wouldn't believe it, but I talk to"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "members of Congress and senators all the"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "time, and this is routinely happens"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "because these bad actors have embedded"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "non-official cover, knocks, on the staff"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "of key committees and members of"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Congress to block and change things all"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the time. The the system is it's like a"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "metastatic cancer where the whole system"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "is riddled with these sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "operatives. And that's what happens. It"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "is a metastatic cancer that's gotten out"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "of control. And I think that most people"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "don't realize that a member of Congress"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "by himself or herself can only do so"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "much. But I'm hoping still that they can"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "continue on and make some progress."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Well, if you were to press the rewind"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "button to the fake hearings of the 60s"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "and 70s, it wouldn't be any different"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "than now,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> I mean, it's like but nobody knows this"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "history. This is the other problem."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "There's a posity of institutional memory"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "in the Congress and in the public and in"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the media of the way this game has been"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "played all the way from the 50s till"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> And it's pretty much the same playbook,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "but nobody knows the prior operational,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "you know, manual and they're just making"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "the same mistakes over and over and over"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "and over and over again. And uh it's"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "it's if it wasn't tragic and so"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "dangerous for our future, it'd be"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "comical because there's no real great"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "mystery uh to how to set this up. But"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "every panel and every hearing that's"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ever happened on this subject has ended"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "up being uh diverted into this uh"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "there's nothing here to see or gee, we"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "don't know. Yeah, we do know. And one of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "the things the night before I was"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "talking to some people who were going to"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "be at the hearing and they said, you"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "know, about the phenomena. I said,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "'Which phenomena? And they said, 'What"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "do you mean? I said, well, the UAP is a"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "is a is a waste basket term like UFO."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "There are three things going on. There's"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "extraterrestrial, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "interdimensional, separate, and there's"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "man-made, which is the dominant thing"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "that people are seeing now or the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "man-made things, objects. And the ones"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "from other dimensional uh"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "extradimensional"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "originate in another dimensional, but"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "not another star system. An"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "extraterrestrial interstellar system"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "traverses other dimensions to get from"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "there to here but originates from"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "another planet and star system but is"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "not based in another dimension. Now,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "most people, these three major"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "categories that all the different UFO"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "phenomenon fall into, they're not even"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "asking the question, what part of this"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "is this from? Because they don't even"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> And I liken it to a doctor who is do"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "someone comes in, you know, I'm an"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "emergency guy with chest pain and you"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "say, \"Oh, it's a heart attack.\" And you"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "give them, you know, the TPA and the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "dissolve the clot. Well, it actually"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "maybe it was a dissecting thoracic"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "aneurysm and you give that and they're"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "dead in 5 minutes,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> So, you have a bunch of unskilled"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "physicians"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "up there who don't even know that there"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "are three major categories of phenomena"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "plural going on all being labeled the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "same thing. So, this is like day one of"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "kindergarten. This is like learning your"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "your your your uh your alphabet and how"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "to add add one and one is two."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> But be honest with you, the UFO"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "subculture and the people in there uh at"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "these committees, they don't even know"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "this what I just said. I would say that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "99% of everyone in the UFO subculture"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "don't know what I just said."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> And you do you remember the day that you"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "were schooling me about that?"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> This this guy Dr. career has extreme"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "extreme amount of patience. Ladies and"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "gentlemen, I can tell you but you're"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "right and I you have to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> it's a paradigm. It it blows people's"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "minds."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> You have to know what you're dealing"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "with categorically and and and and on on"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "every level. And I could not agree more."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> But there's no critical here's the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "problem right now. Anything that goes"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "bump in the night that's like something"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "out of Stranger Things"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Yeah. the Netflix movie like the mont"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "experiments that were from other"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "dimensions. Those weren't"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "extraterrestrials, but they're real and"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "they're creepy,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> but everyone would call it an alien, but"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "it's not."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> Okay, so this is not helpful if you're"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "trying to be scientific and specific and"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "have discernment, but this is now a very"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "very I think politically incorrect to"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "have any discernment or information or"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "knowledge about anything. And as Patrick"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Daniel Mona had the sen senator, senior"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "senator from New York said, \"Everyone's"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "entitled to their own opinion, but not"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "their own set of facts.\""}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> What is your fact line again? Don't"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "bother me with Say that again."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> No one's will nobody's willing to look"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "at the facts. And so I just"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> don't bother me with facts."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Don't made my fact my"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "opinion's made up."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> So I think this is another big problem."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Um but you know, look, all we can do is"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "continue to advise. Luckily, you will"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "notice in the hearing and we can put a"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "link to this Raven in in this show uh we"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "had presented to the committee and to uh"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Congressman Berles uh about a 10-page uh"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "of report for the record and he held it"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "up and it was submitted and Luna"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "accepted it and it actually has some of"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "these whistleblowers named and some are"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "codenamed uh in there and then a sort of"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "a cover letter from me that explains all"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "of this. But um so that's in the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "congressional record and everybody can"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "see it. I think even before they had the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "hearing, you know, something like 12 or"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "13,000 people had downloaded it and"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "hundreds of thousands had viewed it. But"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "I think this is, you know, we need we'll"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "just continue to submit this sort of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "information and then hope for the best"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "and say a prayer. It's a Hail Mary pass"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "at this point."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> Dr. Before Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> I do think the big action isn't going to"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "happen uh necessarily there. the big"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "actions happening at the executive"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "branch level and law enforcement and um"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "I can't go too much into that but I will"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "tell you that it's very big progress and"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "very promising extremely promising."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> So let's get to your case. I mean why"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "don't you start at the beginning uh of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "this strange case boy"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> you know just the facts outline it you"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "know when it started when it happened."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "First time I'm ever going to do that."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Just fact-based. Uh, hold the hyperbole."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Your your viewers don't uh deserve that."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "I know for a fact that this is this"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "broadcast between yourself and I um have"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "uh a lot of eyes on it and I and I"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "understand that and I'm very cognizant"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "of that. And I just want to tell people"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the footage you may be what you are"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "about to witness is is potentially draw"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "jaw-dropping if you've never seen it"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "before. This is not a CGI alien"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "interview that floated around 5 years"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "ago. This is something very old, very"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "nonCGI."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "And I just want everyone to know it's"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "very important."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> Let's just go through the facts. I want"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "to I want you to summarize."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> I just wanted to just preface this is"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "that I went at this as a true scientific"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "investigator thinking I was going to"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "prove it was a hoax. and I'm 6 years"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "$27,000"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "later"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> and I I I cannot prove this is a is a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "hoax. It's actually the needle is buried"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "the other way. On that note,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> the alien interview, we think that it"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "started in 1997 with this mockumentary"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "that was on TV and it it didn't. it uh"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "in 1986 a former CIA pilot John Leer"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "goes on George Knap's sublevision"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "uh news program and talks about that a a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "videotape of an extraterrestrial out at"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "S force south of Area 51 has been"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "garnered and it's going to be and it's"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "going to be exposed to the public."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "That's in 1986."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "1988 allegedly people like Bill Moore,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "some uh journalists allegedly were going"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "to be flown to Washington DC to w view"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "this alien interview tape um on behalf"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "of the United States government. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "stock market crashed. This was this was"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "would have been in ' 87. the stock"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "market crashed and that meeting that in"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "incredible meeting was cancelled in"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "1989. Uh Bob Lazar steps forward talks"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "about S4 a facility that John Leair was"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "talking about. So there's there's a"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "repetitive theme here that there is this"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "super secret facility south of Area 51"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "and people don't even know what Area 51"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "is yet. I find that oddly uh I find that"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "oddly uh in informative."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "In 1991 from our investigation on April"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "22nd uh at 3:15 in the afternoon a"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "interstellar hloid other gray alien tan"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "in color round eyes was brought into the"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "interrogation suite at we what we now"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "know um under the building in the"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "facility S2 Alpha. Uh there we have been"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "told there is no S4 with hangers in the"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "mountains so on and so forth. That the"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "AHC, the alien housing center is is as"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "is bizarre and and and crazy as that"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "sounds, resides under a building south"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "of Area 51 called S2 Alpha. And in in"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "the homage of Dr. my friend Dr. Greer,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "we have the foyer of that facility being"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "built in the early 60s. Very important."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Next to that facility is the American"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Pathology Institute, which we have also"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "found that many of these alleged"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "retention facilities for living"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "extraterrestrials allegedly, ladies and"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "gentlemen, also have a company next"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "door, adjacent to some sort of bio"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "research pathological facility. I find"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "that again oddly coincidental."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "This film, this this film, unbeknownst"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "to the DIA, which runs the"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "retention and uh and interrogation"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "program under project Aquarius, Dr. Gri"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "is very familiar with the Defense"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "Intelligence Agency. Um, this film was"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "stolen because a very small secret cabal"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "of men, a biologist two centuries and we"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "think under the tacit um wink of the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "project leader a major Thomas Mack who"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "was with the air force advisory"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "scientific committee. He was the pro"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "project leader of project Aquarius where"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "this alien retention and um uh facility"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "was housed and project Aquarius uh was"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "all things extraterrestrial all things"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "extraterrestrial contact with homo"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "sapiens sapiens under that we had"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "project looking glass Galileo and on and"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "on"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "this film of this being which Raven will"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "show uh uh was then leaked and smuggled"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "off of Area 51."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> Go back. What when what was the date of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "the interview and the film and when it"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "was actually created?"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> Yeah, this this interview this film"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "you're about to see was created. It was"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "very late in the series with this being"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "late into the telepathic thought"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "projection interviews with this being."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "It came to the facility in 1989. This is"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "April 22nd, 1991"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "at um 3:15 in the afternoon made created"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "for the question submitted for the"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Department of Naval Intelligence, which"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "officially to this day doesn't exist. I"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "am so proud to say that we have proved"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "beyond a doubt the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Intelligence exists and does prove a"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "tenant of Bob Lazar's story. This film"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "was snuck off the base. It was it was"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "cap captured held for five years. Um and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "in 1996"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> so let's go back. Wait wait wait. Go"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "ahead. Who"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> I mean I want I'm very much forensic."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "I'm a doctor."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": ">> Um who took it off the base and what's"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the provenance of the film? Provenance"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "meaning the authenticity of its chain of"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "custody etc."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> Right. the United States. We um and I"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "this is jumping forward a little bit,"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "but we got a document that talked about"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the providence, the chain of events, how"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "the theft occurred. The theft occurred"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "almost moviees like um it was actually"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "let out of S S2 alpha because you don't"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "you are weighed in the nude and when you"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "come in you are waiting the nude when"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "you come out. Nothing is getting out of"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "this facility. I think everyone would"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "probably understand that this one of the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Cabal members, the disgruntled"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "employees, was the United States Air"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Force cameraman who we have never known."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "He is the hero in all of this. He took a"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "threeinut snippet of this film. And that"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "is what he brought to Las Vegas and and"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "took it off base in a he first put it"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "into a burn bag in a GSA approved vault,"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "held it for 3 days, and then he snuck"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "that burn bag in his gym bag off of the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "base of Area 51. We have talked with"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "seven people that have been at Area 51"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "in the '9s. They've all said the same"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "narrative. Times it was draconian. Times"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "the the outline security was lax."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Sometimes the guards checked your purse,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "sometimes they didn't check your purse"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "or your briefcase. I found that"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "striking. And that's how this three"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "minute segment of this film left the"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "base."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "It was brought to to Las Vegas film VHS"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "or was it actually"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> Great question. We have proven beyond a"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "shadow of a doubt. Three forensic and"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "film video experts all say that this"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "film was originally on 16 mm film, not"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "VHS, ladies and gentlemen. And we have"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "found out that in 1991 the United States"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "government, audio visualization"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "department of the United States"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "government and EGNG, which did the super"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "secret filming for the United States"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "government. Remember EG&G? This is where"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "the whistleblower comes in"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": ">> that they were still using 16 mm film."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> So that's very very important to"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "remember that that this completely jives"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "in and and and and completely walks in"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "lock step with what the government was"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "using in 1991. And if this was a hoax"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "started in 1996, it was very very hard"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "for anyone to find any film stock"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "footage that was 16 millimeter to use in"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "let's say a mockumentary."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Dr. Greer, we we move forward to 1996."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "1996 in the spring. an alleged former"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "government employee, uh, dressed in a"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "three-piece suit, wearing a ponytail,"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "uh, a counterculture type person, highly"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "educated, starts making the rounds in"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Hollywood to sell this threeminute tape."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "This is coming on the heels of the alien"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "interview."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": ">> He gets a meeting with Fox, Jaime"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Darnell, and their unscripted television"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "department. This is bizarre."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": ">> They can't uh they cannot guarantee his"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "safety. They cannot guarantee his"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "anonymity. They think that he's a little"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "weird that uh he's a pain in the I will"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "refrain from swearing. And they"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "basically shoe him out of the Fox studio"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "lot. This former government employee"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "allegedly walks across the street. He"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "gets Variety magazine because he his"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "mission is to sell this and put this on"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "TV and expose this to the world. He sees"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "a video production company. This is very"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "important. a second tier video"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "production company that is putting out a"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "a Rodney Dangerfield comedic golf video."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "And he thinks to himself, \"Well, if Fox"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "is not going to help me, maybe somebody"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "lower down the food chain, and I would"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "agree with this, would help me and would"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "put this out.\" He calls, he talks to the"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "CEO, Tom Coleman, who I've been in"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "contact with for six years. Six years."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "They bring him in. They pop in this VHS"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "tape. They see this bizarre alien uh"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "being interviewed looking, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "very bizarrely into the camera. The the"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the footage is a blue hue, which I gave"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "to Raven. This is one of the big tenants"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "of the skeptics. It's darkened. It must"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "be a puppet. The original VHS had a blue"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "hue clearly showing the thorax and the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "arms and the shoulders and of course the"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "neck and the head. It looks like a"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "closed circuit television camera. This"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "is how it originally came to Rocket"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Pictures, not the darkened film. Rocket"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "Pictures production did that for"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "theatrical effect. They find the same"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "thing that Fox does. This Victor is"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "weird. He he won't yet get it give his"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "real name. He doesn't drive. They make"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "an agreement for payment. We think 25 to"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "$30,000 because it's the follow the"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "money in this. how we prove there is not"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "the amount of money garnered to warrant"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "doing something like this. It just costs"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "too much. And Victor produces a tattered"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "social security card with the name. And"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "I I jump forward, but I this is this is"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "why I came on with a tattered social"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "security card named Stanton John Willlet"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "with a 262 prefix, which means he was"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "originally born in Florida. And the"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "director was defiant. The first name was"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Stanton, not John. cuz we found a John"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Stanton willlet. He leaves. He comes"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "back and they do a unrehearsed,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "very important, unrehearsed hour and a"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "half on Coast to Coast ArtBell where"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "Victor is taking unrehearsed questions"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "so eloquently that people are saying,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "\"This this guy sounds like a project"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "manager of a government program. This"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "guy sounds like my boss at Rathon. uh"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "this guy is is scientific in nature. Two"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "months later, the documentary comes out"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "on the UPN network, not Fox, on a"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "program called Strange Universe, and"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "they paid Rocket Pictures for this"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "1-hour documentary. So, the in in"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "Reicher Entertainment, which had Strange"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "Universe, was on the ropes financially."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Again, follow the money. In my case, the"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "lack of the money. We see this video,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "doctor. It's bizarre. It's a It's a It's"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "a tan alien, not gray. Why would you"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "hoax a video with a tan alien and not"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "have a typical gray? It has round eyes."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "The skin is moving and oscillating"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "around the ocular cavity and around the"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "eyes. The mouth is opening and closing"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "seamlessly. Once you once you zoom into"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "the mouth unlike any animatronic being"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "that we've ever seen up to this point,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "black foam is coming out of its mouth as"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "discharge. Medics come in. Victor tells"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "us that the bean um had a had microbes"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "um form colonies in its respiratory"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "system and this is why it was having"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "some sort of a a respiratory attack. And"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the thrust of my of my first"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "investigation, this green bizarre"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "alleged physiological monitor is next to"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "the beam with the blip, the"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "physiological blip going up and down. It"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "is moving off the off the screen bottom."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "It is not holding on to the bottom like"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "a regular EKG or um or or any kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "physiological monitor that we see. very"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "bizarre, green in nature and it seems to"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "be coinciding more erratic with the"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "beans coughing and EMT and doctors that"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "we showed this to were perplexed and"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "said all of them and Haime Musan showed"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "this to 13 cardiothoracic surgeons and"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "cardiovascular surgeons who all said"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "this being is having some sort of"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "cardiovascular event and that blip is is"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "is seemingly to be in sync with the"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "coughs of this being. a very bizarre the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "the the the video ends. Victor says, you"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "know, do what you want with the film."}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Um, investigate me. Um, I'm coming out"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "because I don't believe that the"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "government should have hold this"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "knowledge against the American people"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "that the government people running this"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "program are very average intellectually"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "at the top. Uh, Victor comes across as"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "very bitter, very angry and highly"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "intelligent. And he uses two words and I"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "could not have a person in front of me"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "to had to talk to this about. He says"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "and this is what struck me in 97 being"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "have no idea about eupfology. He said"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "the being starts to medically flag and I"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "remember this on my couch watching it"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "and going that is an odd term. I have"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "never heard of that term. I know"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "Hollywood. I know screenwriting writers."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "I don't think a 20some year old writer"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "could think of the word medically flag"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "or the term something that I've never"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "heard before. I've heard flagging of"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "course and then he says the being was in"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "the interview suite. He doesn't say"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "room. He doesn't say in the interview um"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "the interview level calls it a suite"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "which is a much more comfortable"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "accommodation. For some reason those two"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "words struck me. Months later I'm having"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "a regular checkup. my physician at the"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "time in 97 is a was a doctor in Korea"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "and I said Dr. Z what is medically"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "flagging"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "Dr. Greer, he he reeled back to me. He"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "goes, \"Where did you hear that from?\""}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "And I said, \"It was in a documentary,"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "but they said it's a hoax.\" And and and"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "this whistleblower is a hoax. And he"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "goes, \"I haven't heard that since"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "Korea.\" That's a medical terminology"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "from that was used a lot in the"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "government and in my time in Korea. I I"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "I said, \"Would a 20-some year old writer"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "know that terminology?\" This is before"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Wikipedia or the Urban Dictionary. and"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "this and his my doctor's reaction to"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "that terminology simply made me say I"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "don't know when but something is weird"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "with this video. The doctors are not in"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "pressurized suits to really hype up the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "hoax. There are two military army"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "officers in the foreground only showing"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "their shoulders. Why would you dress"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "them in in in in army attire and and not"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "show their whole body? The alien is tan."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "What is going on with this film? And I"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "just knew in the back of my mind, I'll"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "pause here, that eventually one day I"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "would research to find out what the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "truth is. Not if it's real, but what the"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "truth is."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "The United States is war maxing again."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Behind me is the live conflict map"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "showing where US and Israeli forces just"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "struck inside of Iran. Every one of"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "these geoloccated icons that you see"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "here marks a confirmed impact point."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Fighter jets and cruise missiles hit"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "regime targets across the country. Even"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "killing Iran's supreme leader. And today"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "we're going to get into how they"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "accomplished that. Because on February"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "28th, 2026, United States and Israel"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "launched what was called Operation Epic"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Fury. this massive joint attack against"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the Islamic Republic. More than a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "thousand targets were hit just in the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "opening wave alone. The stated objective"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "is simple, regime change. So today,"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "we're going to map out this offensive"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "campaign. We're going to examine Iran's"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "retaliation and we're going to conduct"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "an initial battle damage assessment to"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "see how close US forces are to their"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "stated goal regime change. Then at the"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "end of the video, we'll zoom out a"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "little bit and we'll look at how this"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "operation fits into the broader American"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "grand strategy that we see unfolding"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "across the globe in the past few weeks."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "The attack began at 9:00 a.m. local time"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "in Iran. And from that moment, the clock"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "started ticking. And that's because it"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "was a race between two different"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "strategies. Could the US and Israel"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "dismantle the regime's ballistic"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "missiles fast enough? Or could Thyrron"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "sustain a relentless pace of strikes"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "before retaliating with their own"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "ballistic missile storm? Surprisingly,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the attack began in broad daylight. And"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "we'll see why in just a minute. In the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "morning hours, a wave of air strikes hit"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "the Iranian capital of Thyron. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "massive explosions shook the city and"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "according to eyewitness accounts, they"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "triggered chaos across multiple"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "different districts. videos are now"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "emerging and they show the sheer scale"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "of destruction. And that matters because"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "if you look at the Iranian population"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "density map here, because I love looking"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "at maps, you can see that the vast"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "majority of people live right here in"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Tyrron. That's where the population"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "center is. Much of the area in the"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "center there of the country is just"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "empty. But there in Thrron is also where"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "much of the regime's command leadership"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "is concentrated. At the same time,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "something visually striking, I think,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "happened across the region. Airspace"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "over Iran and large parts of the Middle"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "East effectively went dark. Commercial"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "traffic vanished. You see, similar empty"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "corridors over Ukraine and Eastern"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Europe. And these huge gaps in the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "global flight patterns are a stark"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "reminder and an indicator of how there"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "are multiple active conflicts happening"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "across the globe right now. And they're"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "just glomming closer and closer together"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "to one another. It's creating visible"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "holes in the map. This footage released"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "by the United States government shows"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "cruise missiles launching toward Iranian"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "targets in the morning because just in"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the first 12 hours of the campaign, US"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "forces alone reportedly carried out"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "nearly 900 strikes across Iran. Did you"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "see that footage of those Tomahawk"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "cruise missiles flying just 200 ft"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "overhead? They're flying what's called"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "nap of the earth as low as possible to"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "avoid Iranian radar and missile"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "intercepts. As they fly overhead, it"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "sounds like a low-flying jet. That is"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "and that is insane to see footage of 21"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "of them flying right next to each other."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "And here we see the evidence of that"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "F-35s and FA18E"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Super Hornets launching from US aircraft"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "carriers. Their strikes hit this Iranian"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "drone platform and multiple ballistic"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "missile launch sites as we see in this"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "footage from the government. Further"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "south, Iranian naval facilities near"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Chabahar were also targeted. And that's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "interesting because those bases were"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "left untouched during the 2025 strikes."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "So this is a major escalation that we're"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "seeing here. This satellite image shows"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "the aftermath inside the port. An"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Iranian frigot sits shattered and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "burning at the moorings after being hit."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "But first, all the editing work in"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "today's episode was made possible only"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "thanks to today's sponsor, Mando. This"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "video sponsor is Mando deodor. Do I ever"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "sometimes smell?"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Yes, definitely."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Mando is 72 hours protection. 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Just click my link in"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "the description down below or the pin"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "comment or go to shopmando.com/cappy"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "army. It just launched in Walmarts"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "nationwide. So look for the orange"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Shopmando at your local Walmart."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Remember, go to www.shopmando.com/cappy"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "army to smell great for the next 72"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "hours. Don't mask it, mando it. Its air"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "defenses failed to intercept the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "incoming American missiles. New"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "information coming out since then states"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "that that was possibly a torpedo strike"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "against that Iranian warship. This is"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the first confirmed loss of an Iranian"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "warship since Operation Praying Mantis"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "in the 1980s. And this buildup happened"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "over the past two months. Wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "out of nowhere. This graph here though"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "shows the scale of US force deployment"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "in the region over the past month"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "leading up to the attack. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "people were asking me if this might lead"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "to a ground attack from here in the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "future. And you can see from the type of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "assets that the United States moved into"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the lot of tanks and armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "and large masses of troops. No, what"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "we're looking at here is mainly air"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "power. Tomahawk cruise missiles launched"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "from air, land, and sea. We're not"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "talking about a major ground campaign"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "here. And really, it would kind of be"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "impossible for the United States to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "conduct a ground campaign. The stated"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "American objective was to annihilate the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Iranian naval forces like they did in"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the 1980s. Reboot the sequel. This time,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "we're serious. This I was not expecting."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "The US military released footage of them"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "firing the attackums missiles at targets"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "inside of Iran. Where did they even do"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "this from? How are they within range?"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Top range on those are about 300 miles."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "So people believe they were fired from"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "inside of Iraq on the western border."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Deeper than that though, US Central"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Command Sentcom, Sentcom Forever as"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "they're known, said on X that it had"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "begun striking targets to quote"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "dismantle the Iranian regime security"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "apparatus. It said that the targets"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "included the Islamic Revolutionary Guard"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Corps's command and control facilities,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Iranian air defense capabilities,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "missile and drone launch sites, as well"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "as military airfields. The first hours"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "of the operation included precision"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "munitions launched from airland and sea"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "and operation epic fury involves"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "reportedly the largest regional"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "concentration of American military"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "firepower in a generation. I thought it"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "was surprising that President Trump came"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "out and overtly said during his speech"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "in an 8-minute address to the country"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that the overt goal was regime change"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "operation. Personally, as an American,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "hearing that, it's surprising to hear"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that just kind of putting the cards out"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "on the table, not saying it's for"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "something other than it is, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "surprising because in the past, many"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "times leaders will play koi and be vague"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "about their objectives because if those"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "objectives are not met by the military,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "this would be an embarrassment. But"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Trump stated that his goal is to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "overthrow the regime. Now, why would he"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "hold himself to that? Why would he"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "commit to that? Part of the reason from"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "a strategic point of view, I could only"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "give my personal read on it, is that"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "it's because by saying that, by"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "committing to regime change, it gives"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the Iranian people some kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "assurance that if they revolt, they try"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "to take control, then the US has their"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "back with air strikes. It's a bold"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "strategy, and we're going to have to see"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "how it actually plays out. I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "personally skeptical of regime change"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "operations in the Middle East after"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "taking part in one in Iraq, but I'm not"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "here to tell you guys what to think."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "America successfully hit Iranian radar"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "stations, as seen in this footage here,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "and then Sentcom reported that they were"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "the first largecale ever attacks by a"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "one-way drone that America had just"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "produced based on the Iranian Shaheds."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "So, Sentcom came out and tweeted that"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "this was their retaliation for them,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "their retribution. This is a great meme"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "that came out of Osinet technicon X. He"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "says Iranian Shahed attack drones and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "their American copies passing each other"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "over the Persian Gulf looking at each"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "other kind of awkwardly as us would say"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "awkward turtle. So what's interesting"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "about that is that Iranian Shahed drones"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "are based on US drone technology which"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "then copied Iran. It's a snake eating"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "its own tail. Tyler Roger, the head over"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "at the war zone, an aviation expert,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "tweeted that he believed the B2 bomber"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "would likely show up this night dropping"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "their payload of 80 of their 500 lb"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "munitions, saying, quote, \"Entire"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "airfields infrastructure gone in a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "single pass. They would not be employed"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "until the night, and they now have the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "benefit of highly degraded air defenses"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "and disrupted command and control. This"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "is when the air campaign will change.\""}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "According to Tyler Rodoway, the Allies"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "then came on to the attack. At this"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "point, as we'll see, the UK prime"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "minister stated that they had joined the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "fight against Iran by lending their"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "attack fighter jets. Then there was"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "reports that Saudi Arabia had officially"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "joined the fight as well, as reported by"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Fox and other sources, that would mean"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "that what had been a long proxy war"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "between Iran and Saudi Arabia had now"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "just turned into a direct war. When"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "looking at the statements made by the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Saudi Arabian government though, it's"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "unclear if they're saying that they were"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "ready to join the fight or if they had"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "already done that."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "If we zoom out for a quick second here,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "I have to ask though, what effect will"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "these attacks have? We've seen Cuba,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Venezuela, and Iran, all client states"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "of Russia are now being pressed hard or"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "already been pressed. These attacks seek"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "to further weaken Russia's position in"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "the war in Ukraine. I believe my read of"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "it, if the Islamic Republic is"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "overthrown, it also weakens China's"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "position because 20% of China's oil came"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "from Venezuela and Iran. However, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "important to note that there is always"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "blowback and unplanned consequences,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "secondord effects, if you will."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Geopolitical analyst Robert Morris"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "pointed out on X, saying, \"Every bit of"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "pain China experiences through higher"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "oil prices is experienced by all our"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "European and Asian allies. It's a big"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "gift to Russia, too, he says, unquote."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "So, it's unclear if this gamble by"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "America will pay off or not. Skeptics"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "believe it'll backfire. And supporters"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "believe that this is geopolitical chess"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "at its finest. But zooming back in,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "according to the Institute for the Study"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "of War, their map on the situation,"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Israel has reportedly focused on"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "decapitation strikes and military"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "targets, while the United States has"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "focused mostly just on military targets."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "So, a Persian Gulf port was targeted"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "with its critical oil and port"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "facilities being hit. US forces have hit"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "a number of Iranian naval bases on the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. The"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "attacks were designed to decapitate the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "leadership and degrade the regime's"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "network that suppresses rebellion. And"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "we talked about this in a prior episode"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "just a few days ago. We highlighted how"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "the system of repression at the Thrala"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "headquarters would likely be targeted."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Here we see information from the IDF on"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "which leaders were hit. The thrral"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "headquarters in Iran and its leadership"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "was targeted. This is the organization"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "responsible for suppressing those"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "rebellions. The Israeli Air Force"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "reportedly deployed 200 fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "that took off from their air bases and"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "struck 500 military targets in western"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "and central Iran. Their strike package"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "included massive 2,000lb bombs and"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "standoff cruise missiles which were"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "aimed at Iran's remaining air defenses"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "and ballistic missile launchers. They"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "flew over Syria through a corridor where"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "they refueled midair. Then they"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "destroyed multiple targets in Iran. It"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "appeared they had total air supremacy"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "Israel and the United States at that"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "moment. This corridor was further opened"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "up and exploited through Syria from"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Israel after the fall of Assad. That's"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "when it was really no threat for Israel"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "to go through there and hit Iran through"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "that corridor. This footage here though"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "shows the effects of the attacks on"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "these Iranian launch sites. This is"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "being called the largest combat sorty in"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "history. And according to the IDF, they"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "struck multiple advanced SA65 systems in"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "western Iran, which had a range of over"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "20 km. Over 200 American fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "joined the battle, intercepting incoming"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "drones from Iran and missiles. Big loss"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "from two aircraft carriers in the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "region. They also came from Jordan, the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "UAE, and Kuwait, just to name a few"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "locations. The over 20 American"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "warships, including destroyers and"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "submarines that have been built up in"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the region over the past few months,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "launched dozens of Tomahawk cruise"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "missiles at their target. People on the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "ground in the path of the missiles"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "recorded it with their phones, and we"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "saw some wild footage come out of this."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Those missiles can fly the you're"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "looking at right there. Those American"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "cruise missiles can fly at 1,500 miles"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "distance at 500 miles per hour with"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "a,000 lb munition, a warhead on top of"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "that. To put into context the Tomahawk"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "strength, think of it as being able to"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "level a small suburban lot. It can"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "destroy a whole block with houses on it."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Now, take a look at this location here."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "This is a satellite image that it was"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "obtained by the New York Times of the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "compound of the Supreme Leader Ali"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Kahamini. The battle damage assessment"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "of the location shows the structure is"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "extremely, let's say, damaged. We've"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "since learned that multiple Iranian"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "officials were killed in this one single"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "strike. They all met at the same"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "location in the morning. All of these"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "bros that you're looking at here right"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "now, they're all dead. The destroyed"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "building is smoking rubble. And since"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the start of the campaign, Kahamini has"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "been reportedly out of contact. And"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "we'll find out why in a second. Because"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "thousands of IRG because thousands of"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "IRGC personnel, including several senior"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "officials, were reportedly killed or"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "wounded at the military bases in the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "attack. This video footage here shows"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "smoke rising from that location. More"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "footage here, more evidence piles on top"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "of what happened. And the satellite"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "images appear to show there's three"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "small holes that would likely be"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "American bunker buster bombs reminiscent"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "of the ones that we saw during the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "attack on Fordo. But could it reach the"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Supreme Leader underground bunkers?"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Well, later reports came out that the"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "people in Iran were celebrating his"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "death. And by later in the day, on the"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "first day of the war, we got"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "confirmation that Iran's supreme leader"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "was indeed confirmed killed in the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "attack and that his body had been"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "recovered from the debris. Israel's"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Netanyahu came out and said that"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Kahamini was the architect of the plan"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "to destroy Israel in October 7th. Then"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Reuters came out and reported this that"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the American CIA had assessed that if"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Kahamini was killed, there's a chance"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "that the IRGC hardliners in the military"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "would take control of the country. This"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "is according to intelligence reports"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "that Reuters saw. So the CIA assessment"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "gave a scenario where members of the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "IRGC were likely to assert a larger"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "degree of control, but that they might"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "be more they might be a little"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "different. Might be willing to curb the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "country's nuclear program or take a more"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "consilatory hey it's cool. We'll do"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "whatever you want United States up to a"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "limit. But who might be in line"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "otherwise if it's not the hardliners?"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "One, I believe less likely scenario is"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Reza Palavi. He might take power. He"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "addressed the Iranian people during the"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "attacks on video, saying that now was"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "time to take back control of the nation."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "He is the former Sha's son who was"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "overthrown in 1979 by the current regime"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "that's in power right now. And he said"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "that now is their time with this aid"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "arriving for final victory that could be"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "in their hands. Many want Reza to"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "reclaim control in Iran as what he"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "claims would be an acting transition"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "authority. He would just kind of be"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "there momentarily who would usher in an"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "elected official afterwards. When you"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "look at the type of locations and type"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "of targets chosen, they paint a picture"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "of an attempt to destroy the IRGC"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "security forces that are responsible for"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "suppressing protests. So, US-based human"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "rights activist news agency estimated"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "that the death toll was 7,000 dur during"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "the January protests and the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "government said that the death toll was"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "3,000. Others claim it was 32,000."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Whatever the number was, the attempt is"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "to give the protesters now an"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "opportunity, a window to overthrow the"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "government. US operatives actually spent"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "the last month smuggling in thousands of"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "Starling terminals to help the rebellion"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "stay connected even after the regime"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "shuts down the internet like they did"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "last time and this time. So far, the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "strikes have reportedly 86 killed the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Iranian defense minister as well, and"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "the Revolutionary Guard Corps's"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "commander. They're all believed to have"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "been killed in these attacks. It was"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "also reported that the Supreme National"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Security Council secretary was also"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "killed. At least four senior Iranian"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Intelligence Ministry officials killed."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "The head of the snake is off, and the"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "question is, what will the body do as it"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "thrashes about? During the failed"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "negotiations, the US and Israel were"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "demanding basically a permanent an end"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "to all uranium enrichment, strict limits"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "on Iran's ballistic missile program,"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "which was a no-go for them, a"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "non-starter, and a complete halt to"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "support for regional proxy groups like"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Houthis. Iran was unable or unwilling to"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "comply on all those accounts. So, now"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "let's talk about the other piece of the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "three pieces of the pie, Iran's"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "retaliation. Then we'll get into the"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "bigger geopolitical picture of how this"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "fits in. In retaliation, Iran launched"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "dozens of ballistic missiles, hitting"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "many targets. The missiles impacted all"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "over the region. And by later in the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "evening, local time in Iran, about 400"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "p.m. Eastern Standard Time, ballistic"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "missiles were still landing in central"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Tel Aviv despite efforts to totally"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "neutralize those launchers. So Bahrain,"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Iraq, Israel, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia,"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Qatar, UAE were all attacked, including"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "14 American bases. It appears like when"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "it got dark in the Middle East is when"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Iran started firing more ballistic"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "missiles. That may have been the reason"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "why the US and Israel chose to attack"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "early in the morning because they knew"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Iran would have to wait until the"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "evening to get their missile launchers"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "out into position to hide at night. More"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "impacts were increasingly reported after"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "Israel only said there was 33 35"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "missiles that impacted in the morning."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "Osenet technical reported more Patriot"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "intercepts as night fell. I want to show"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "you more evidence visually of Iran's"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "retaliation. US Patriot missiles were"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "engaging, more Patriots firing off"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "multiple salvos at a time. More drone"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "strikes. This footage shows an Iranian"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "drone making it through US air defense"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "and hitting a radar station. According"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "to the US official in Bahrain at the"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "headquarters of US Navy's fifth fleet,"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Iranians hit an empty warehouse only and"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "a ray dome. That there's video footage"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "evidence of these strikes. But SenCom"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "reported that so far in the first at"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "least 12 hours, there have been no US"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "casualties or combat deaths since the"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "start of the operation, which is kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "wild to think that none of these 400"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "aircraft were shot down. As we got"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "closer to midnight Eastern Standard"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "Time, what we saw was Iran released this"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "message saying that they're doing"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "massive retaliatory strikes. And this is"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "something I was listening to the"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Enforcer Live earlier. Great channel."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "And they were talking about how Iran"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "basically has this doomsday plan, this"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "doomsday scenario where their doctrine"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "is to unleash all of their missiles in"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "the case of a in the event of a"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "decapitation strike, they release all"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "their missiles at once. So, right now as"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "we speak, we're seeing that happen. We"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "don't know how effective or not that'll"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "actually be though. There are claims of"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "drones hitting US CRAM and air defense"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "in Iraq, but we're not sure if that"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "happened. In past engagements with"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "Israel and the US over the past year or"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "two, they had lost many of their"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "launchers in Iran. So, they depleted"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "their missile inventory by about half by"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "striking the warehouses that were"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "holding all these missiles. And Iran was"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "reportedly down from 480 of their TEL"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "ballistic missile launchers to only 100."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "So they could only fire from a third of"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "their launchers. It also takes time to"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "refuel and reload the missiles after"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "each volley that Iran does. The Houthies"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "also restarted their campaign of strikes"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "against ships trying to cross through"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "the Red Sea. this Patriot missile"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "system, evidence of it intercepting a"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "ballistic me missile while a leaker got"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "through and it reportedly hit Aludide"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "air base in Qatar, striking and damaging"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "a clinic. What this continues to show us"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "is evidence that air defense is not"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "magic. It can blunt missile attacks, but"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "it cannot simply just fully stop them."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "US Sentcom reported its forces had"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "defended against hundreds of Iranian"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "strikes following the initial wave of US"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "and partner strikes. Sentcom forces"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "successfully defended against hundreds"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "of Iranian missiles and drone attacks."}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "It said the cell phone footage found"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "posted by Osen defender account on X."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "He's a friend of the show, arguably the"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "best open- source intelligence account"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "out there. He stated that it hit a"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "resident building in Bahrain and those"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "have a payload of over 100 pounds. They"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "can destroy a whole apartment or flatten"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "a single house in some cases. More"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "drones on drones on drones. More"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "evidence of attacks in Bahrain. More"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "intercepts. The big strategic prize in"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "this region is the straight of Hormuz"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "that Iran has stated that they have"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "control over. It's a major global"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "shipping lane for Saudi and Iranian oil."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Just for starters, it had been"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "effectively closed according to Tasim,"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "which is the Iranian state media. Then"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "when we look at the maritime tracker, we"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "can see there is still some traffic"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "that's going through there as of the"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "day. Oil tankers though have reportedly"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "U-turned to avoid sailing through there."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "The IRGC said that it was off limits and"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "that they had effectively blockaded it."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "Let's discuss the legality of this"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "briefly. And I'm not here to tell you"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "what to think. I tell you what I think"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "and what the facts are on both sides of"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "the argument usually. So, President"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Trump's unilateral decision to launch a"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "major attack on Iran has people debating"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "if this was authorized use of force or"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "not. Some claim, including Republicans,"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "that he violated the Constitution by"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "starting a war without congressional"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "authorization. Next week, Congress will"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "debate this. But now on the other side"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "of the argument is that the US"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "designated the IRGC in Iran as a"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "terrorist organization. And so because"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "of that, they are technically legally"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "allowed to conduct strikes on them. And"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "technically is the best kind of okay."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Basically, normally the president would"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "need authorization after 60 days of a"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "attack like this. Many presidents have"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "skirted that though in the past,"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "including Obama and Trump as well. Now,"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "the final piece of the puzzle, the"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "three-piece pie, is the geopolitics."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "Now, I think that it is not a"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "coincidence that the United States moved"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "against Mexico, the biggest cartel"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "leader, Elemento, and then this happens"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "at the same time. Personally, I think"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "the US is implementing part of their"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "stated grand strategy this week that"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "they've written about extensively in"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "unclassified documents as well as the"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "authors of those documents have spoken"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "about this on their Twitter accounts"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "revealing their intentions purposefully"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "to the world. It's the attempt to topple"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Iran's government is likely linked to"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "efforts to increase pressure on China"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "and Russia between Venezuela and Iran."}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "That is because between Venezuela and"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "Iran, that's where China gets 20% of"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "their oil imports and they get it at a"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "steep heavy discounted price by"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "targeting the shadow fleet of oil"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "tankers. The US is attempting to crack"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "down on their adversaries in this one"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "action. So the US Mexico joint operation"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "against the top cartel boss in Mexico,"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Elmeno, is also part of this grand"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "strategy. The CGNG cartel was pressuring"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "and preventing foreign investment in"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "Mexico. They were taking 15% cut of"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "everything that was going over the"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "border. So the US plan to decouple from"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "China has everything to do with relying"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "on Mexico as a partner for production"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "instead of buying from China. So the"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "North American supply chain is being"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "locked down for strategic purposes. If"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "China were to invade Taiwan, the US"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "cannot engage in a war in the Middle"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "East or a war in Europe or deal with"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "proxy instability of the cartel on their"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "southern border. So it would need 100%"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "of American focus on the Pacific."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "Whether or not this strategy will"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "backfire or be ineffective is another"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "question entirely. But we are seeing a"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "grand strategy, a new doctrine being put"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "into place. It's much more complicated"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "than that. But Trump stated that from"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "here he could go in many directions. He"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "said he has many off-ramp possibilities."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "He said that he could take all of Iran"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "or end it in two or three days. He"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "stated that in any case, it would take"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "them, the regime in Iran, several years"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "to recover from this attack. To learn"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "more, check out this video about the"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "most insane cartel firefights caught on"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "camera, or this video about how Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "Epstein was key in illicit arms"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "trafficking in Iran. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "infoterman, Chris Cappy."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Personally, I can see both sides of the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "argument here of wanting to do this. I"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "think one of the biggest strategic"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "impacts that this is going to have for"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "the United States if they're able to So,"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "a lot of people are like, \"Okay, what's"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "the end goal here? What's is this regime"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "change? Are we going to have we're going"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "to be involved in like a three-year war,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "10-year war here?\" I think a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "people forget the fact that all we need"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "to do is go in and destabilize Iran. We"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "don't necessarily need there to be some"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "functioning democratic government there"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "to benefit from Iran falling. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "just saying this in a pragmatic sense. I"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "don't mean this in a like I think this"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "is the right thing. But if the United"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "States is able to destabilize the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Iranian regime enough, basically it cuts"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "off China's access, one of their only"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "access to really cheap oil. And so if"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you're looking at this in terms of, hey,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "we think China is going to invade Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "in the next two 3 years, this puts China"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "at another disadvantage and makes them"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "hopefully less likely to do so because"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "they now have to buy more oil from"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Russia at a cheaper amount. So if you're"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "looking at this from a American grand"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "strategy point of view, that's the goal"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "here is to not necessarily stand up some"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "functioning government or for it to even"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "be better than the for the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "people. It's that we want to turn Iran"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "either into a I mean that'd be great."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Sorry, I'm just waking up. That'd be"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "great if that could happen, but that's I"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "don't think the United States really"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "cares if that's the case."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "20%. So if the United States can disrupt"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "or control that amount of energy that"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "China has, it's a huge strategic benefit"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "for them."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "There's a bunch of other reasons for"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "this conflict. It's not I don't think"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "it's ever just a has to do with"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "resources. That's just one. That's the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "resource angle of this. There's"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "obviously the nuclear side of it, which"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "there's something that people I think"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "misunderstand about"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "the Iran nuclear question, which is"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "people I hear this all the time. You'll"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "hear people say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "I've been being told that Iran is 3"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "weeks away from getting a bomb for 10"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "years now.\" And that's not that's not re"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "it's confusing. I understand why it's"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "confusing because I myself am pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "stupid. But the reason people say that"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "is because of what's called breakout"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "breakout speed. It's the concept of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "breakout time which is how long it takes"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Iran to get a nuclear weapon once they"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "start enriching to 90%. So they've"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "enriched to 60% which means they are 3"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "weeks away from getting to weapons grade"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "90%. And then from there, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "another piece piece that people don't"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "understand is it likely would take 3 to"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "6 months for them to then take that"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "weapons grade uranium and turn it into"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "an actual nuclear weapon. So that's what"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "they say by Iran is 3 weeks away from"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "having a bomb. Not like they're"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "literally 3 weeks. It's if they decide"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "to develop a nuclear weapon. That can be"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "very confusing for people. And I think"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "that it may it's it makes everyone sound"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "like they're"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Excuse me. Sorry. Makes everyone sound"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "like they're crying wolf for 10 years"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "saying Iran's about to be there about to"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "do this. What is the potential of this"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "chemical nuclear weapons being developed"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "by the Iranian regime? If they're"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "cornered, wouldn't they try to at least"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "use that enriched uranium in a dirty"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "bomb scenario? It's definitely a risk"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "that the United States feels like it's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "worth taking on right now. They're"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "deciding, you know what, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "accept that."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Slim says regime change is different"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "here considering the Iranian people want"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "this. This isn't forcing democracy like"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "before. Many of them remember the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "freedom they had before the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "regime took over. It's true. One of the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "main great things that I hear HLC,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "habitual line crossers, say all the time"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "is that before the 1979"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "revolution, the Iranian people, their"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "GDP was extremely high. This is very"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "educated, very smart people in Iran and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "that they had a lot of opportunities"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "before the revolution and there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "of people there that aren't happy with"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the current regime. I mean some between"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "10 and 30,000 people were killed"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "in the last go round of protests. People"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "who wanted to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "be done with them. But I mean at the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "same time people were worried about us"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "getting involved because it could be a"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "you break it you buy it situation."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Although I think we've kind of done away"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "with a lot of those ethical"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "considerations that we used to kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "pretend"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "just sort of pretend like hey we have a"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "an ethical responsibility."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Now I don't think this administration"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "would have any qualms about bombing the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Iranian regime to hell and then getting"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "out of there."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Is this GWAT 2 electric bugaloo Mr."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Cappy? No, I don't think this is GWAT 2."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "I think this is very different than that"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "because I'm hoping that we've learned"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "from our mistakes in terms of we're not"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "trying to force some kind of regime"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "change here. I don't think the United"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "States is going against some nebulous"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "terrorism, some enemy that kind of can"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "never really be defeated in in a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "ways or it's very difficult to defeat an"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "insurgency. That's a very good question."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "So, there's this research paper that was"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "released about 3 months ago that was"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "sent to congressmen. It was sent to US"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "military war planners and it's like this"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "100page document that outlines exactly"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "all of the locations that US air strikes"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "would need to hit in order to topple the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "regime. And something that people don't"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "really focus on and know about is that"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "there's the besieging. Everyone knows"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "about the IRGC. Everyone knows about the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Iranian Revolutionary Corps Guards"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Corps. But nobody knows about the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "besiegi which is really the ground level"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "militia"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "to 100,000 to 300,000 strong that are"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "located throughout tyrron and they're"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the system of repression. They are"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "there's this institutional systematic"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "way that Iran controls their people and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "it's 10 times worse than you know it is"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "the Gestapo x 10 and their whole purpose"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "in life is to repress any attempts to"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "rebel and overthrow the regime. And so"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "what this paper did was it outlined all"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "of the exact locations of where"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "would need to be hit,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "excuse me, to topple Iran."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Because without the besiegi and without"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the thrala headquarters, which is where"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "it all emanates from, the thrala"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "headquarters in Thyron,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "this is basically"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the apparatus, the state apparatus that"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "puts their thumb down. They're the ones"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "who systematically know, okay, we're"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "getting together. We're going to this"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "stop that's frequently where protesters"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "are. If protests happened here, they"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "know to send out roving patrols with"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "guns. They know to send out and block"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "out this checkpoint and that checkpoint."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "It's like become an actual, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "there's a there's spreadsheets on this"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "there. This has become institutionalized"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "the system of repression. So, it's key"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "to knock that out, which is why I"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "wouldn't be surprised if we see strikes"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "on that."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Sounds difficult to achieve. Maybe not"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "impossible though. Okay, so there are"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "some 3,000 besi military or like little"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "outposts spread out throughout Tyrron"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and the country. So yeah, it's very"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "distributed and that's something that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "they've done in the last 2 3 years where"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "they've distributed their operations so"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "they're not so dependent on just one"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "headquarters or one base. And there are"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "300 other smaller outposts and they each"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "call into each other. So, we're talking"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "about many hundreds of locations inside"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "of a packed city that would need to be"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "sort of decapitated."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Iran vows decisive retaliation after"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "USIsrael launch strikes. Iran's foreign"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "ministry vowed a decisive and definitive"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "response Saturday after the United"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "States and Israel launched military"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "strikes across Iranian territory. The"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "ministry called the attacks a violation"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "of UN charter and warned that this is"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "armed forces will not hesitate to defend"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "the country."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "We'll see how those threats stand up"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "against the time in the next few hours"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and days. This sounds like it's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "be a not just one day oneoff strike like"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "we saw in Venezuela. It sounds like this"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "is going to be a multiple days of"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "bombing. It's going to be multiple day"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "long operation that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "required to hit the just the volume of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "targets the the strike package. I can't"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "imagine the air tasking order for this"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "type of operation. You're talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "hundreds hundreds of targets that need"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "to be hit. Missile bases the remaining"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "100 or so ballistic missile launchers"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "that they have the mobile ones at least."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "There's also fixed one silos in the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "ground."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "My in-laws are from Iran. People"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "supporting the sha are too young to"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "remember the atrocities. There is"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "division and no clear path after danger"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "equals mulla for crown and another"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "dictator lenlike."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "There are a couple of different ways"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "this could end. One of them is that we"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "could see chaos like a in Libya where"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the government collapses. They're able"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "to hit a decapitation strike and the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "country just devolves into civil war."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "But again, what we were talking about"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "earlier is that that would still meet"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "the US strategic goals in Iran if it"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "were to collapse like that. Nobody wants"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "that, but it could be one of the things"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "that they're specifically aiming for."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Where in Iraq, when we toppled Iraq, we"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "were like, we want to make sure that the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "country is okay afterwards. That's not"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "going to be the game plan this time."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Only missile air strikes, no boots on"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the ground to win the war with Iran,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "right? No. another Vietnam Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Correct. Right now, there's appears to"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "be, as far as I know, no boots on the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "ground operations, just missile and air"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "strikes. Kind of similar to like what"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the United States did with Libya under"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the Obama administration where they use"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "decapitation air strikes. But the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "difference here is that there's no real"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "big military faction on the ground."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "There are protesters, but they're"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "largely unarmed. So, one of the things"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "that people are curious about is how"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "this is going to lead to removing the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Islamic Republic without actual boots on"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "the ground. And there's a couple of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "ways, couple of theories that are out"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "there. One is that there's this large"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "group of Iranian Kurdish resistance"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "fighters who since 1979, the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Kurds"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "were exiled from parts of Iran and"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "they're now basically on the border of"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Iraq, which would be western Iran's"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "borders. uh if we look at the map in a"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "minute, but"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "one of the ideas is that the US military"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "has been"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "arming and training, the US special"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "forces have been arming and training"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "these Iranian Kurds in Iraq because of"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the fight against ISIS. So, the CIA"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "operators have been there. And the idea"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "is that we could use these Iranian Kurds"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "on the border as a kind of boots on the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "ground, a proxy militia for us. We'll"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "have to see if that actually happens."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "But that's one of the things when you"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "look at what the Iranian Kurd commanders"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "have been saying to news reporters"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "recently is that they say, \"If the US"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "goes in, we will go in.\" And the last"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "protest in January, what we saw was"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "the Iranian Kurds did they dipped their"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "toes in the conflict. They they did a"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "little bit of oof, too hot, too hot"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "without US air strikes. So they attacked"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "some border outposts on the border with"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Iran, but they didn't actually go any"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "further than that. And they said, \"We"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "can't go further without support.\" So"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "we'll have to be monitoring the"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "situation. They killed a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "Iranian guards. the IRGC guards on the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "western border of Iran. So, we'll have"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "to see if they if they do that again"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "So, what I'm looking at is"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "air strikes,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "a lot of them focused in Thrron."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Reports indicate that missiles have hit"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "some locations in eastern Thyron. I"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "mean, I got to pull up this I got to"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "pull up this source for you guys because"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "this is this is they predicted what they"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "were doing here."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Give me a hot minute"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "while I go and figure this out."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Happy start. Stop singing the [ __ ] All"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "right,"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "I've almost got it."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Good to have you this morning. Good luck"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "with moderation. The waters are so murky"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "from propaganda trolls. AI slop and old"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "videos claim to be new mainstream news."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Slow to present most of the media out of"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Iran because of it."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Well, thank you for the comment,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Warhound. It's true. There needs to be"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "vetting of the whatever footage you look"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "at. Keep in mind that it could be could"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "be AI created. It could be fake."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Those are things that we have to be"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "concerned about. And there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "a lot of misinformation and"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "disinformation. And that's part of what"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "we're going to hope to push through"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "today is"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "that disinformation. We're gonna That's"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "really what I do when I put these videos"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "together is I just try to sift through"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "the BS and I try to"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "pull the wheat from the chaff. All"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "right. I'm excited to show you guys this"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "document on the thrral. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "Let's"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Let's do it."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "One of my favorite documents. This, I"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "think, explains a lot of what we're"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "looking at and what the US is targeting."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "This is the Thrrala headquarters. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "this is put together by the United"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "against nuclear Iran policy group that"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "has influence inside the US government."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Their mission is to educate the public"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "and policy makers and businesses about"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "the dangers posed by the Iranian regime."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "So, that's where this paper is coming"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "from. It's important to know where their"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "bias is, what where they stand. The"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "reason I like this paper, too, is put"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "together by some real experts on the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "issue. We got um Oh, here's that"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "pronunciation uh roll skill check that"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "I'm going to pass"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "with snake eyes. Say Golkar and Caser"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "Arabia. Sorry if I mispronounced your"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "name, guys, but these are a senior"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "adviser of the United States against"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "nuclear Iran. serves as a US foundation"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "associate professor um holds a PhD in"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "political science from Tyrron University"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "obtained in 2008 and then uh as the"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "director of Islamic Revolutionary Guard"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Corps research. These people know a"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "thing or two about the regime, but"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "basically they wrote this 80page"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "document"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "giving a play-by-play rundown on how to"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "destroy the system of oppression in"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Iran."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "the thrral headquarters would basically"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "set up in 1995"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "as a way of suppressing one of the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "earliest biggest um unrests that"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "happened in Tyrron because that's when"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "they revealed that they couldn't just"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "quickly"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "put down any large-scale revolt and the"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "capital could be taken over within 2"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "hours. In 1995 they learned this. So"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "what happened was this was actually Ali"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Kini's"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "first taste"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "first taste of how to suppress a"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "rebellion and this thrral headquarters"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "grew out of that and became more strong"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "and it just increasingly the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Republic relied on this group to"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "maintain their power through repression."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "So they're the ones that have put down"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "all of the major protests that we've"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "seen. The one in 1999, the one in 2009,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "the one in 2017,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "2019, and 2022. You'll probably all"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "remember the 2022 woman life freedom"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "movement. And each of these have kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "happened for different reasons, but it"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "always kind of follows this same pattern"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "where you have a revolt for either it's"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "an economic reason or it's a social"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "reason, but there's unrest and then"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "these dudes here,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "these guys that you're looking at here"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "are responsible for putting those"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "revolts down. And it's become"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "increasingly increasingly more brutal"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "their methods."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "This guy Nat here, General Hos Hosin"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "Nijat definitely on their strike list."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "definitely who one of the people that"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "they want to bury and he's been"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "responsible for one of the things that"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "he's actually known for is that he"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "instituted the the Chinese technology"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "that they brought in from the CCP to"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "surveil and turn off communications for"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "the country. I'm assuming they've done"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "it already. They've shut off the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "internet and they've shut off"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "communications. I think they were"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "already shut off and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "what Nijat did was and it's you know"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "from his point of view it was very"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "effective they shut down communication"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "so that the people in Iran couldn't get"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "outside word out about how effective the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "protests were they couldn't communicate"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "what the situation was on the ground"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "they had total blackout which we're"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "learning now these cyber weapons these"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "cyber conditions are not not only the"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "ability to shut down communications but"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "also the ability to keep them open. We"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "saw this just recently in Ukraine with"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "Russia and Star and the uh Starlinks"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "when"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "when they shut down all those Starling"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "terminals for the Russians, Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "forces push forward. This ability to"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "communicate or not communicate has"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "become decisive in modern conflicts more"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "so than ever before. And"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "so what the Wall Street Journal recently"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "reported was that"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "the CIA"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "and special operators have spent the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "last month or two smuggling in"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Starling terminals. six 7,000 Starling"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "terminals were smuggled into Iran in a"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "covert operation that was disclosed"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "purposefully by the administration by"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "the US administration to reporters"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "because they want this information out"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "there. But I'll get back to the thro in"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "a second, but um this is important key"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "important aspect. The US has spent the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "last few months smuggling these Starling"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "terminals in to keep communications"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "open. So it's this battle of keeping the"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "airwaves open or closed and Nat was one"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "of the ones who was responsible for"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "crushing that. And what we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "here now is this paper has outlined"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "exactly the structure the command"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "structure of the thrala headquarters"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "which there are 10 other security"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "military headquarters that fall within"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "the structure of the IRGC ground forces."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Enthrala operates as the guard's primary"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "security headquarters. This here shows"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "us the location, basically the um order"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "of battle for them, you could say. Each"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "there's an operational headquarters,"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "then there's a provincial guard"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "headquarters and in each province. And"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "so you're looking at each of these"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "needing to be hit."}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "Cyber Herbalist says the air strike is"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "in support of the Iranian people as well"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "as in defense of those countries and"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "people who have"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "been harmed by Iranian proxy aggression."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "Thanks Cappy for your coverage. Thank"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "you Cyber Herbalist. Yes, I agree that"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "one of the things"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "that people have been most upset about"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "in Iran is the proxy groups that Iran"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "funds. So when you look at a country and"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "their economy is not doing well, the"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "people are going to get upset about the"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "foreign entanglements that that country"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "is getting involved in. So in Iran, much"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "like how you here in America, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "people in the US are very upset about US"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "aid. They're very upset about their"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "money going overseas. They're pissed off"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "about funding generational wars that go"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "on and on forever when conditions at"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "home in America aren't good for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "people. And you can understand why"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "people would be upset about those kind"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "of things. The same, you know, humans"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "are the same everywhere. people aren't"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "different in Iran. The Iranian people"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "are humans just like Americans. And so"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "there's something about human nature"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "where you don't want to feel like you're"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "getting screwed over by your government."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "And so the Iranian people themselves are"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "really pissed off about having to fund"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "proxy groups in Lebanon and in Israel uh"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "in Gaza. And so Hamas, the Houthis, and"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "the and Hezbollah have been getting"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "millions and millions of dollars from"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "the Iranian Islamic uh the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "Republic of the Islamic Republic for"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "decades now since the 80s and they don't"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "want to see millions of their dollars"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "going to fund that anymore. It's uh Iran"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "first"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "thing that the the population wants"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "there. So what we've seen is part of the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "reason that the conditions are so choice"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "right now for this type of operation is"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "because Hezbollah was severely friaking"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "neutered over the past few years by the"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "IDF. They don't have the capability to"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "launch this kind of destructive missile"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "strikes that they were in the past that"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "they were feared about with their ring"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "of fire or whatever it was called. And"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "in the past the worry was that Hezbollah"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "would launch just everything. They would"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "go, you know, nuclear and fire all, not"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "literally nuclear, but they would fire"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "all these missiles into Israel and"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "destroy their airfields right on the"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "border. But with them taken out, not a"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "big deal. Now, with with Syria having"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "fallen, with Assad out of the picture,"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "oh my god, you guys,"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Syria, Venezuela, and now Iran, are we"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "going to hit for the cycle this year?"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "I mean the the the conditions the gr the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "the implications of what this will mean"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "for the the chessboard of the world. I"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "mean, it's it's like"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "if if if this isn't a disaster, that is."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Syria"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "fell and that opened up a corridor for"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Israeli and US fighter jets to now just"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "kind of slink through Syria and"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "hit Iran through that"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "corridor. And these conditions didn't"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "exist in the past because the new"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "government in Syria isn't going to shoot"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "down those Israeli jets. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "the conditions haven't never been."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "Basically, this is a window of"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "opportunity that the US saw and was not"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "going to let go."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "We're going to get back to that document"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "in a second."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "So this map here, they've they've shown"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "where the IRGC headquarters are in"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Thrron. They've shown where all the"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "regional bases are here. This is what"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "we're looking at. All the besi militia"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "base locations that they've mapped out"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "67"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "67"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "very true is your personal belief. Do"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "you think this is just war or just"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "another benefit for our greatest ally"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "quote unquote meaning Israel?"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "I think our interests with Israel are"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "aligned here on it would be for American"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "interests probably more for Israeli"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "interest but it would be in America's"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "interest to knock out Iranian regime"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "just because of the benefit it would"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "have against"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "China and I think that's the big play"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "here that the United States is making."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "What we're seeing is maximum pressure"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "being put on trying to end the war in"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Ukraine. And if you look at the grand"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "strategy documents of the United States"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "that they put out over the last year,"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "their whole grand strategy is we need"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "there to not be a war in Europe so that"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "we can focus on the Pacific and we can"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "focus on China because I think all of"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "their assessments are showing that they"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "believe China's going to invade Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "in the next year or two. And so they in"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "order to deter that they feel that there"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "can't be a war on Europe's doorstep or"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "that it if there is it needs to be well"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "and truly handled and suppressed. And"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "one of the ways to do that is to control"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "the energy in Iran. Control the energy"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "in Venezuela. Crack down on all of this"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "shadow fleet of oil tankers that have"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "been running willy-nilly for Russia and"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "for China and Iran. So what we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "is this every lever of pressure that can"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "be put on ending the war in Ukraine is"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "being pulled. Basically, this is just my"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "assessment. You guys might feel"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "differently, but that's my read on it is"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "that the United States is trying to set"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "up the chessboard such that it's not in"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "China's interest to invade Taiwan. And"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "you can't have a war in the Middle East"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "either if you if you need to focus 100%"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "of your forces on the Pacific. You can't"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "there can't be a threat of war that"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "would pull the S because we've seen what"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "what have we learned over the past few"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "years? If the US is going to fight in"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "any theater, it takes how long to build"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "up forces? takes two months to move air"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "defense assets into that theater because"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "we don't have enough air defense assets"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "to be in the Pacific in the Middle East"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "and be sending them these munitions to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "Europe as well. We basically have enough"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "power to fight in one theater at a time."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "We had to move off an aircraft carrier"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "from the Caribbean from when we were"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "engaging in Venezuela. We had to move"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "that now to the Middle East."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "So what would happen if China were to"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "attack Taiwan and at the same time any e"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "either there were war to kick off with"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "Iran in the Middle East or if Russia"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "were to test limits in Estonia on the"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "border for instance you're talking about"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "just game theory wise impossible for the"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "US to def to fight and defend in two"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "theaters at the same time and it would"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "just take two months to build up the"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "combat power anyway. The United States"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "is seeing an opportunity to basically"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "take the Middle East off the board to no"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "longer have to worry about there being"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "any kind of war in the Middle East."}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "Because if Iran is destabilized and"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "they're just a chaotic"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "country because of these strikes going"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "forward, that's that that uh meets the"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "criteria for a strategic victory for the"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "United States. I hope that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "happen. I don't want that for the"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "Iranian people. I'm just saying from a"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "pragmatic, from a point of view of"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "strategic thinking, that's what they're"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "thinking."}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "The same is true in Europe. You can't"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "have a war"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "in Europe. And so, how do you stop that?"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "You control the energy. You stop"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "allowing Russia to have the funds to"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "continue that war. I don't know if it's"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "going to be successful this grand"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "strategy that the United States is"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "putting into play here, but I'm just"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "saying that that's what they're looking"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "at. Cappy want to give info on the"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "footage of the Bahrain fifth fleet"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "commander being hit. Stayed on that base"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "many times. Can say the huge explosion"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "missed the main complex, the mall,"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "command portion, barracks, and shopping"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "hotel area. That's the zombie saying"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "that. Thank you for your comment, sir."}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "Um, yeah. Let me take a look if I can"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "find the footage of that."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "If somebody wants to"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "send me the link to that"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "defender, one of my favorite sources,"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "friend of the show, really good guy, is"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "saying that an Israeli Air Force"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "aircraft"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "that is carried Israeli Prime Minister"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "Benjamin Na Netanyahu before has"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "departed."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "In a video statement posted to truth"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "social, President Donald Trump invokes"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "the attacks against US Marines in"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "Beirut, Lebanon"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "and the October 7th raid into Israel by"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "Hamas and explain the rationale for"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "striking Iran. You know, when I talk"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "about US grand strategy a second ago,"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "something that we also need to think"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "about, I think, is Iran's grand"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "strategy. what was their goal? And I"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "think they were also rolling the dice."}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "They had a vision for the future and"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "what the Middle East would look like."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "And I think personally, I think October"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "7th was they funded it. They helped plan"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "it, the IRGC."}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "I think that that was their big move. I"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "think that they thought that the"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "blowback was going to be different. I"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "think they believed that Israel was"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "going to stop"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "their war in Gaza pretty quickly. I"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "don't think that they expected things to"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "turn out this way. I don't think they"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "foresaw their nuclear sites getting"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "bombed and Israel knocking out the"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "majority of their air defense."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "The Iranian"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "announced the beginning of Operation"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "True Promise 4. We're on four, guys."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "They can't. This this is just the sequel"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "to the reboot at this point is underway"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "against the US and Israel following the"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "attack this morning. Massive clouds of"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "smoke billing from the US fifth fleet"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "headquarters at naval support activity"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "bon a major district in in Beyonce"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "and a defender alike."}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "So, one of the things that I'm most"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "concerned about and curious about what's"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "going to happen is if the US aircraft"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "carriers are going to be targeted"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "because they're within ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "range. But the question is, has Iran"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "targeted the aircraft carriers? Would"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "they have the accuracy to hit them?"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Red alert now in southern Israel"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "following the launch of a new wave of"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "ballistic missiles by Iran."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "Satellite imagery shows a black plume of"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "smoke and extensive damage at the secure"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "compound of Ali Kamini, Iran's Supreme"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "Leader in Thran following this morning's"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "joint strikes by Israel United States."}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "So, did they have good intelligence on"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "his location? Were they able to destroy"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "the building?"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "says"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "extensive damage at the secure compound,"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "though his whereabouts were unclear. The"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "image taken by Airbus on Saturday"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "morning shows collapsed buildings at the"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "complex, which typically serves as Mr."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "Kamini's residence and main premise for"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "hosting senior officials."}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "Iranian supreme leader and the president"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "as well as those responsible for"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "commanding the mass murder of Iranian"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "protesters were targeted by this morning"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "uh by the strikes by Israel and the US"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "this morning."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "Here we see the Patriot surfaceto-air"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "missile batteries from the US Army"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "attempting to shoot down Iranian"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "ballistic missiles in Kurdistan,"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "northern Iraq."}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "We are removing pieces from the"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "chessboard to prepare for Taiwan. No"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "more Iran proxies, Venezuela, or even a"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "Russian threat for the large part. Sir,"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "thanks a lot. Thank you, sir. Thanks a"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "lot."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "We're not drinking Dunkin Donuts this"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "morning, says Jess. Bro,"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "bro, all we do is drink Dunkin Donuts."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "It's that kind of morning."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "Look at his compound. It's completely"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "destroyed."}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "Is that true? I have not seen that if"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "that's the case, but that's what I've"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "been hearing is that it's been hit and"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "hit hard."}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "We go back to the live conflict map. We"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "see air strikes in TRIZ in Iran's"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "northwest."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "The Parchan military base was hit by air"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "strikes. Several explosions in Beyron."}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "American base in Byron is reportedly"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "under attack."}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "Iranian state media. Iran attacks"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "American bases in the region. All"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "American bases and interests in the"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "region were targeted by Iranian"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "missiles."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "Israeli military. Dozens of Israeli"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "fighter jets launched raids on ballistic"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "missile sites in western Iran. Mid the"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "operation against Iran, the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "military has called up some 20,000"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "reserveists, mainly in the Israeli Air"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "Force Intelligence Directorate. In"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "addition to this, some 50,000"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "reserveists on duty. If you guys want to"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "see uh the the rundown that I've already"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "done on the strikes in Iran and the plan"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "to topple Iran, I did a video about a"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "week ago on it. But basically"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "the long and short of it is this case"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "study here that we're back to now. It's"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "this rundown that I believe was probably"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "instrumental in military planners"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "because in the past the US and Israel"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "did targeted strikes against"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "not the regime's apparatus. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "hit"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "the key locations needed for the protest"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "to be more successful."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "So, one of the tactics that this system"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "of repression uses is they are very"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "mobile. They're on motorbikes, the"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "Basie, Basiji"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "militia, and they ride around on"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "motorcycles"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "basically just beating the hell out of"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "any kind of revolutionary activity."}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "These treat these teams are trained for"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "speed, intimidation, psychological"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "operations, and crowd dispersion. Their"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "main job is to scatter crowds before"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "they grow. They weave through alleys,"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "flanking protest groups, and circling"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "demonstrators."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "That's why I feel like it's so difficult"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "without some kind of force on the"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "ground. That's why I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "looking for any news of the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "Kurds"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "hitting border regions."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "We're going to keep a lookout for that."}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "There's also resistance forces on the"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "border with Pakistan actually."}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "And another big question of course is is"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Iran going to try to shut off the"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "straight of Hormuz now? That would be"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "sort of the the nuclear option, no pun"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "intended, but they would"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "use their fast attack bolts to shut down"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "that I think it's I forget exactly the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "distance here, but it's something this"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "choke point is something like I don't"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "know 10 nautical miles or something wide"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "that boats can go through here. The"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "straight of Hormuz. And so Iran has"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "trained and believes that they can shut"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "down the straight of Hormuz with sea"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "mines all over the place."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "Hey Cappy, just got here. Is this a"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "full-blown invasion or more like a"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "topple mission? From what we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "right now, it doesn't look like it's a"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "full-blown boots on the ground invasion"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "at this point. And from what we're"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "hearing, it's not going to turn into"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "that. The idea is instead that it's a"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "topple strike. And I believe what we're"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "looking at is these strikes are designed"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "to take out or disorient the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "regime's ability to repress repress the"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "protesters. That's the whole goal here"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "is to take out that abil that their"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "ability to communicate and to organize"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "and to put down any protest movements."}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "So, it'll be the Iranian people. It'll"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "be in part up to the Iranian people how"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "this turns out and it'll be up to in"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "part how successful those decapitation"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "strikes were. It's"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "it's interesting that they tried to just"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "basically assassinate the leaders of"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "Iran,"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "which is normally considered a"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "a diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "foul. That's a party foul. So, here's"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "where they're hitting here in Qatar."}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "In Syria, and is Iranian ballistic"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "missile fell, causing significant damage"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "to a residential building. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "residents were killed."}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "We're also going to want to know are"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "they targeting are they basically going"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "for broke here? Is Iran targeting the"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "oil infrastructure in Saudi Arabia?"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "It's okay to just say this is puzzling"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "what they tried to do. A puzzling"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "decision that doesn't make much"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "strategic sense in war sense, battle"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "sense."}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "Yes, live view mapap is what we're"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "looking at right now. That's the Osinet"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "tool that a lot of times I like to use."}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "I am waiting for those battle damage"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "assessments."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "to come pouring in."}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "So what I was saying before about the"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "United States"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "grand strategy from their grand strategy"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "documents is that we're not just seeing"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "it in"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "Venezuela. We're not just seeing it in"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "Syria."}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "It's a global strategy. They're putting"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "it into place. It's all connected. We It"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "might not seem this way, but"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "if you remember on Sunday, February"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "22nd,"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "Mexico moved on one of the biggest,"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "arguably the biggest top cartel leader"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "inside Mexico. Why do you think the"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "United States wants that done? Is it"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "about going to sleep?"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "Good night. Have a have a nice nap."}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "It's my baby girl. Um, so the the US"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "toppled or the the US put pressure on"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "Mexico to"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "take out the top cartel boss, Elno,"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "because this the the the Mahalisco New"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "Generation Cartel on the southern border"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "with the United States basically taking"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "a 15% cut of everything that comes"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "through the border between the US and"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "Mexico. And the big grand strategy play"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "in Mexico is that they're a huge part of"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "the puzzle for decoupling from China. So"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "the US is moving to secure their inner"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "supply routes between Canada, US, and"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "Mexico by eliminating the factions that"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "are on the border. They're taking a cut"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "of everything because we want to"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "re-industrialize. So you need to take"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "out the when the cartel becomes a"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "strategic level problem, a pain in the"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "ass in that way, then you see these type"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "of movements. You see pressure to take"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "them out. It's it's yeah, is it a little"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "bit about the fentanyl?"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "Yes, a little bit. But there's also"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "strategic considerations that the US is"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "moving on. Are these all going to play"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "out like we want them to? Is this going"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "to work out like the grand strategy"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "paper wants it to? I I don't know. I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "just putting out here is what they're"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "thinking and here's what they're they're"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "aiming at. It could there be blowback"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "and it be a disaster for sure, but the"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "idea is to basically"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "not be dependent on China. And you need"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "Mexico for that. You do not win the war"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "with Taiwan if there is instability and"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "this kind of proxy organization"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "effectively running inside of Mexico."}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "And that's why now Mexico is being"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "pressured enough because taking out"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "Elmeno, there's huge retaliation."}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "There's violence. There's consequences"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "for that. But the US is putting enough"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "pressure to try to make that happen."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "Here"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "is where the paper maps out exactly how"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "the thrral headquarters puts their thumb"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "on the Iranian people."}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "I freaking knew it. No one believed me"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "when said it."}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "You called it."}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "You knew it. Good sir."}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "Happy. In your opinion, is this a"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "decapitation strike to [ __ ] and"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "overthrow the regime or a submission"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "tool to bend the will of the Ayatollah"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "in line with US policy in the region?"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "So, that will depend on the outcome of"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "these strikes over the next week. If by"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "the end of the week,"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "it looks like the regime is going to"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "survive. If these bombing campaign just"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "hits all these targets, you know, Iran"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "levels some buildings, some US military"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "infrastructure in the region, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "a week from now and that's the case and"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "the regime is still in power. they"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "haven't been decapitated. Then what the"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "US is going to say is that the goal of"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "this was to just pressure the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "regime into getting in line with US"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "policy and that this was, you know, a"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "punitive strike to get them to behave if"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "if they don't collapse. But obviously, I"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "mean, let's be let's let's be real here,"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "boys. This is an attempt at regime"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "change. Anything short of regime change"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "right now is not going to it's not going"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "to be great. It's not going to be worth"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "the billions of dollars and all the"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "military infrastructure that we moved in"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "and all these the the risk that we're"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "taking on here if if Iran if the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "Republic doesn't collapse. That is not"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "that's not the game here. That's not the"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "game plan here. That's what we'll say."}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "will say this was just to show them that"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "we mean business. But"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "really, sorry, we're doing a little bit"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "of uh"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "you're if you're going to if you're"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "going to say stuff like that, you're"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "gone. You can't say inappropriate stuff."}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "I need to get some moderators on here."}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "yeah, but uh if so at the end of the"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "week if there if the Islamic Republic is"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "toppled then"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "that will be what they were looking for."}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "Bro, please do a quick recap of what"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "happened in Iran. I just got in and I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "confused. So last night the US and"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "Israel launched joint strikes on is on"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "Iran and what US officials are saying is"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "that it was it they're aiming at the"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "groups that suppress the rebellion the"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "uh the rebellion. They were aiming at"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "the you know besieging militia. They're"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "aiming at the tools of the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "Republic that put down the protesters."}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "That's what these strikes are. It's not"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "just that they're hitting their nuclear"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "facilities or they're hitting their"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "missile bases. This is an attempt to"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "give the Iranian people the agency the"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "ability to fight back."}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "We're also seeing, as a quick recap,"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "we're seeing Iran hit US military bases"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "throughout the region. We're not sure if"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "they're trying to close off the straight"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "of Hermuz yet."}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "Will there be a ground assault? We don't"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "know. So far, it looks like no, but"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "could that be in the cards later in the"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "future? Possibly. Because let's It's all"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "going to depend on the conditions on the"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "ground. Let's say Iran's ability to"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "operate their air defense bubble is"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "completely obliterated. Let's say that"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "the conditions on the ground are are"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "such that we could send helicopters in"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "there without worrying about them"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "getting shot down. Maybe you might see"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "some type of on the ground operation to"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "to to support protests. But"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "if those conditions aren't met, if the"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "ballistic missile strikes are"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "devastating on US military"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "infrastructure,"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "we're not going to see that."}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "So this is the paper that I think these"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "strikes were"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "built off of about the thrral"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "headquarters, which is the main"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "apparatus that suppresses the protests."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "And they even got these leaked documents"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "that outline"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "exactly how it operates, how many troops"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "they have, what their strength is, what"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "their uh tactics are and procedures for"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "putting down rebellions, and that they"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "have their own prison camp in eastern"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "Thyron that they operate themselves."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "Hey Cappy, you are in. You see two, you"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "are Iran and you see two carrier strike"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "groups gearing up to attack. What"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "priority assets are you moving out of"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "the way? If I'm Iran,"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "they So, when you're getting hit by"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "these attacks by the US and Israel, you"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "really can't move anything out of the"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "way. What they've done, what we've seen"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "in satellite photos is they've"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "reinforced locations over the past few"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "weeks. They see these aircraft carriers"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "coming at them. And what they've done is"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "they've built concrete walls over the"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "entrances to some of their underground"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "facilities. They've built earthworks"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "around some of these facilities. This is"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "what we've seen. Uh they've prepared"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "their defenses, but as much as they"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "could, but they've tried to hide their"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "mobile launchers, but we have satellites"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "overhead that instantly detect when"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "there is a kickoff of one of those"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "ballistic missiles."}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "I have a friend from Iran that the"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "entire country isn't Muslim. The region"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "has areas they sort of control and a lot"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "of country doesn't practice Islam. I"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "mean he smokes drinks."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "Cheers to your friend in Iran. Uh"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "I hope the best for them."}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "Cappy. Let's go. Any other dirty plops"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "in the chat right now? Oh my pepper. My"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "pepperbacks. My pepperback boys."}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "Do you think the 21 Tomahawks were"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "calculated based off suggested AA"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "strength and previous tomahawk strikes"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "like the one in Syria?"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "I think the 21 strikes were probably"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "assessed based off of"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "how many they need to bury into that one"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "location. And you send 21 tomahawks when"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "you're certain that you want to delete"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "something. When you're fairly when you"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "have you feel like you have good"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "intelligence, you really want to delete"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "something hard."}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "All right, I'm just getting set up here"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "for trying to bring in some guests."}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "Going"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "to take me half a second to get set up"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "for my for my guests."}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "Let me know if you guys have any"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "questions while I get set up here for"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "bringing on guests."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "I'm just inviting some people. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "people aren't going to be up for a few"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "hours."}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "Love the Speed shirt. Does this mean"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "we're taking back the Holy Land?"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "Speed is one of the greatest channels."}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "Speed with four E, I believe, or three."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "Uh they"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "they're good peeps. Check them out."}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "James, you probably already know him."}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "He's uh he's iconic."}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "They're good good dudes over there. They"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "sent me this. That was nice of them."}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "Does this mean we're taking back the"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "Holy Land? It could this might be the"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "fifth crusade that we're seeing right"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "here. This is This is the culmination of"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "3,000 years of promises."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "They've been blueballing me for"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "millennia. You should get Preston"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "Stewart on. Absolutely. Let me reach out"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "to him."}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "I'm sure he's going to be super busy. I"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "don't know if he's going to have"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "reaching out to the boy."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "Cappy, do you have a link to that white"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "paper about toppling the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "government? Yes. Sorry, I should have"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "should have sent this so you guys could"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "follow along at your own pace."}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "I need to I need extra screens here."}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "Do we know of any American casualties or"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "do we have a battle damage assessment on"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "our facilities in the region? All we"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "know is that one"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "location was hit in Bahrain with video"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "footage confirmation. There's reports of"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "other locations being hit. We don't know"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "what casualties there are yet. We don't"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "have battle damage assessments yet."}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "They're going to be coming in soon. What"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "you're looking at right here is that"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "that missile strike."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "US Defense Secretary Pete Hgsth and"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "General Dan A are monitoring the US"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "strike campaign against Iran from Mara"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "Lago in Florida where President Trump is"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "currently located. They've got the"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "military headquarters set up there. Here"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "we see a Patriot surfaceto-air missile"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "launcher downing a ballistic missile."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "That looked like it got uncomfortably"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "close there."}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "Satellite imagery from Airbus Defense in"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "Space obtained by the New York Times"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "show the Iranian This So here's the"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "satellite image that we were talking"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "about earlier that we wanted to see."}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "This is where Oh. Oh, boys."}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "that's not good."}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "I would not want That's not where I"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "wanted to be last night."}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "That is not If he was there, that's not"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "looking good."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "Be prudent to summon the hog for this."}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "Laser Pig. Laser Pig is outstanding. I I"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "spoke to him once a few years ago. He's"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "a really good guy. I would love to speak"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "with him again, but I lost all of my"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "emails when I changed email addresses"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "when I changed,"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "let's say, YouTube channels."}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "We are clean on OBSAC"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "from a non-classified location. Say what"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "you want about Trump, but having a talk"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "in Mara Lago is dope, says Vincent."}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "Hey, there's a lot of different places"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "I'd like. Where do you want your talk?"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "It's going to depend."}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Would I want to be in the Pentagon? Not"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "necessarily. It's probably not It's"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "probably not as nice if we're being"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "honest."}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "Question. What does Cappy Army think"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "about this strike or how he sees it in"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "one word?"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "Okay. I mean, I'm not going to do it in"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "one word, but I'll say because nothing's"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "that simple. Can't it when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "an operation like this, nothing's that"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "simple. I can't sum up my feelings about"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "it in one word, but I'll I'll sum it up"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "in as concise as I can be, which is that"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "I'm skeptical of regime change in the"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "Middle East, another regime change"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "operation. I could see it being a"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "disaster in some ways and there's other"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "ways that I could see why this aligns"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "with US grand strategy and if if a month"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "from now the Islamic Republic is toppled"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "and the Iranian people have their"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "control of their lives and freedom and"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "they're able to vote in who they want to"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "vote in and their country's GDP explodes"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "and everyone there is more prosperous in"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "theuture. future for it,"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "then I'll say in one word, haha."}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "But if a month from now it's chaos and"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "it's actually keeping US forces tied"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "down in the Middle East and we're unable"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "to focus on the Pacific because of this"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "for some reason, whatever reason, then"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "in one word, I would say,"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "whoops."}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "Did you cover? You should delay the time"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "it takes for someone to send a message."}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "If I knew how to do that,"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "I would."}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "Is there already information on what the"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "strike package look like?"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "Was it mostly tomahawks or were other"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "assets involved? We don't have a clear"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "picture of what the US strike package"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "and Israeli strike package was. We don't"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "know if B21 or I mean B2 bombers were"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "involved. We just don't know yet. Um"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "that information is going to be coming"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "in I imagine over the next hour."}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "Some some say radars of the US got hit."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "That's what happened during the last the"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "12-day war. A a major US radar was hit."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "Pinpoint."}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "Uh ever hear of a guy named Arch from"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "the Archcast's opinions would contrast"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "heavily against what you're saying. I"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "think he's half wrong, but still I'm not"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "familiar with him, but if he can if I"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "can get in touch with him, I I'm open to"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "to speaking. thoughts on this escalating"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "with Russia and China? That is, I guess,"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "one of the main concerns that they would"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "get involved. They've shown that they're"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "not willing so far in the past to get"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "involved much past sending some military"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "assets to help reinforce their air"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "defense, but there hasn't been a huge"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "ability for Russia's side to spare any"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "military arms for Iran. Uh if I were"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "Russia and China, I'd be feeling the"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "pressure right now because it seems like"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "the US is making a lot of big moves in"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "the past few months and preparing for"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "something. Maybe they have some kind of"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "intelligence that you and I are not"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "aware of, privy to that um is pushing"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "these kind of movements. But if I were"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "Russia and China, I'd be thinking about"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "what sort of retaliation to take because"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "this is boxing them in. just just my"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "initial read on it. If this works, are"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "we going to see liberal western Iran?"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "Let me turn off uh desktop audio."}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "Equal rights type stuff. MAGA hates or"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "more theocracy. We don't know. We have"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "no idea if this would turn into equal"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "rights. That's that's the million"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "billion dollar question really is what"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "happens in the aftermath. A lot of"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "people would argue that, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "disaster that we saw in Iraq was because"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "the population is not prepared. They"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "didn't they don't ne they didn't"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "necessarily were crying out for"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "democracy. They didn't want freedom from"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "Saddam. It wasn't like they were having"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "mass protests that I'm aware of at the"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "time. And the US was like, \"Let us help"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "you out. This is a different situation.\""}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "The Iranian people very highly educated."}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "They in the past have prospered under a"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "different system. They have been o for"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "over 10 years they've been having these"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "protests where they've been trying to"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "take back control from this deocracy. So"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "will it lead to equal rights? We don't"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "know. It could be a disaster. We don't"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "know. The Chinese and Russians are not"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "tight. Russia gets strained. You will"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "see the Chinese become opportunistic"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "against them. I agree that they are only"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "aligned in so far as they are against"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "the the United States. And I'll tell you"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "what, from my time in service, from when"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "I was deployed, there's there really is"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "nothing like mutual hate against someone"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "else to bring you together. It's a"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "beautiful thing the way it works. So,"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "China and Russia do have that mutual"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "hate which is a it's a binding binding"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "binding thing. It keeps people really"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "tied together in a beautiful way. So I"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "wouldn't underestimate the power of"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "hate. I see the same problem as other"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "civilian Iranian casualties. Yes, that's"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "so that's one of the biggest defenses"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "that this thrral headquarters has is"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "that they're built into the public."}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "They're built all of their headquarters"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "and outposts and provincial guard"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "centers are located within the"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "population. So"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "it's uh it's a it's a real risk."}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "I think there is incentive for China to"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "keep this going. The more weapons used"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "here, the less the US has if China goes"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "after taiwan. It that's what happened"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "during the last 12-day wars. We saw"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "about I think it was 25% of the bad"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "missile interceptors were fired and"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "expended in just a very short period of"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "time in 2 weeks. So the China is hoping"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "that this will deplete US inventory. We"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "know that the US has increased their"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "their production of these kind of"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "systems to I'm guessing in preparation"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "for this. So will it deplete US missile"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "inventories enough that it'll make a"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "difference"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "a war in the Pacific?"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "I personally, my personal belief is that"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "it it wouldn't and that a lot of times"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "the hysteria around the missile problem"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "is overblown because when you look at"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "the magazine depth, it is it is just"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "offensively rude the amount of missiles"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "that we have in our inventory."}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "But if you're at Rathon, you don't want"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "to say that. You want to say we need"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "more. We always need more and and we do."}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "But it can also be true that we have a"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "metric"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "ton of missiles."}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "Regime change realistic after the"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "protests fail."}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "Regime change I think could be realistic"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "if the protests"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "have the ability to take over the"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "country now with these strikes. Will"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "these strikes make enough of a"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "difference? We don't know."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "What would you think it would take to"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "escalate US conventional forces on the"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "ground? Enough US casualties, terror"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "attacks?"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "No, I don't think more US casualties"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "would escalate to a conventional forces"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "on the ground. One of the main reasons"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "is that that window of opportunity to"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "have a ground war against Iran sort of"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "passed about"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "what u uh over 10 years ago now. Like we"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "don't have any correct me if I'm wrong"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "chat. We don't have any overland"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "corridor access to invade into Iran from"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "land right now. Iraq wouldn't let it"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "happen. We have no massive troop force"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "on the ground inside of Iraq that could"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "here. Take a look at this. This is Iran."}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "And"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "our only land corridor into Iran was"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "through Kuwait. We have a lot of tanks"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "and ground forces in Kuwait. And they"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "were gonna go from here"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "through uh or should I should say"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "they were going to go"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "to Tyrron."}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "One sec. One sec. I'll I'll show you"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "I'll show you why it's impossible for us"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "to have a ground operation inside of"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "Iran unless we do an amphibious"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "operation, which would be if you're in"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "the nothing ever happens crowd,"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "I'm very skeptical that some kind of a"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "ground operation would be possible. So,"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "take a look at this."}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "It would take about 14 hours by car with"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "no traffic to drive from Kuwait to"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "Tyrron. And there's, you know, only a"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "handful of locations that you could go"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "from, you could go over land into Iraq"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "or into Iran, I should say. So when"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "you're talking about a ground force"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "conventional massive buildup and"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "invasion of Iran, it just wouldn't be"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "possible really because for diplomatic"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "reasons. So Iraq, their government will"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "not allow US troop. You you ever play"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "Civilization?"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "You guys ever play Civilization 5, four?"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "You have to ask permission from the from"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "the from the other tribes. You have to"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "ask their permission to put you to send"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "your troops through there. It's the same"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "thing in in real life. You can't send US"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "forces through Iraq without asking their"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "permission to travel through their their"}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "tiles."}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "It's the same as civilization, boys."}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "Yes, my man played Civ."}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "actively playing Civ 5 right now. Love"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "from Long Island. That's my home. That's"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "my home."}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "Grab a b grab a a bacon, egg, and cheese"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "sandwich for me with some SPK."}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "It's a blessing to be an American. Thank"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "you for your service, brother. Thank you"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "for watching, brother."}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "Currently starting Civ 3. Okay, so what"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "I'm saying is you look at the other"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "countries as well. You look at every"}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "country around here, none of them are"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "down to clown. None of them are cool"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "with sending land forces, American"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "ground troops. But what you could"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "theoretically do, the only type of"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "ground operation I can imagine is"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "helicopters launched from"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "um Kuwait or somewhere in the region and"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "or some kind of amphibious assault from"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "um the from the Arabian Sea. Like"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "where where else are you going to get"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "ground troops in there? And the only way"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "you could do that is if you opened that"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "sort of the conditions on the ground for"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "that to happen."}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "My troops are merely gathering around"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "your borders."}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "I don't think there'll be thousands of"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "Marines, tanks, and paratroopers"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "dropping into Iran, but small groups of"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "Israeli and American special forces"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "committing sabotage and asymmetric"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "operations. It's very likely that that's"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "already taking place."}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "That we've known that MSAD and the CIA"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "have gotten through this western poorest"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "border"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "for"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "uh it's about they have about a"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "500 mile long border with Iraq. And it"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "is easy to get through there, boys."}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "It is easy to get through there and to"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "smuggle equipment through there."}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "There will be eight crusades."}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "This would be the ninth. Oh, did I say"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "five or the fifth crusade? No, you're"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "right. This is the ninth crusade."}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "Most likely raid would be seen air base"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "by helicopter. Yes, that's what they've"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "trained for. We've seen them do it in"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "the past. Israel has launched covert"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "helicopter raids and taken out missile"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "bases in Syria. So if they thought that"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "there was a risk of some type of really"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "dangerous missile base that they needed"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "to take out, that's what I would see as"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "the extent of any kind of ground"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "operation. But again, you kind of have"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "to"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "create the conditions necessary for"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "that. So, we'll have to they they'll be"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "watching to see what type of"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "capabilities Iran maintains."}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "How many of their ballistic missile hell"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "systems have we knocked out?"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "All"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "right, I'm going to bring on Diego,"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "our Cappy Army producer Diego and"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "researcher, and we're going to talk a"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "bit for a minute about this."}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "Lov says, \"Has the US tried asking them"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "nicely to do an election?\""}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "We did. We tried. The US tried very"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "nicely to ask."}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "They said, \"Hey, can you knock that"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "out?\""}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "\"Hey, hey, can you can you do democracy"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "over there?\" And they said, \"No.\""}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "I don't know what it is about them guys."}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "I don't know what their deal is."}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "What about Pakistan? They let their land"}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "be used for ground invasion. What will"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "they? No, I don't I don't see Pakistan"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "letting that happen at all. Plus, we"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "don't have any build. It took months to"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "build up a force of 500,000 an"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "occupation size force. It took months to"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "build up those kind of the tanks, the"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "the vehicles. We don't have"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "we don't have those capabilities in"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "theater right now. They're just not set"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "up for a massive ground invasion. and"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "and watch me eat my words uh a day from"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "today when there's like a giant"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "occupation force somehow in Iran and I"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "just missed it. But I don't see it"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "happening"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "about to bring on a bro."}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "It's because, you know, sometimes I get"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "lonely, guys. I I I I leave my house I'm"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "allowed to leave like once a week."}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "Sometimes I'll go out twice a week. I'm"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "lying. I I actually I don't I'm lying."}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "Shouldn't say that. I I never leave."}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "So, to get my human interaction, I got"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "to do some phone calls. I got to talk to"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "some people. I can't just talk to"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "myself."}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "Off topic. Thoughts on new Space Marine"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "update? I played the game through. I"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "didn't realize that they put out an"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "update. I beat it, guys. Not trying to"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "brag, but I beat I beat Space Marine."}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "One huge difference between Iran and"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "Iraq is there are millions of Iranians"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "living abroad that want to move back"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "home to rebuild their country."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "So there is that diaspora"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "in the United States of Iranians who"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "would love to get back home. Made so"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "much on PY today. See the third"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "worldists. It's about time we let the"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "kid get some action. I'm going to try to"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "bring in HLC later if he's available. He"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "might be traveling. Who knows?"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "Just checking some messages here"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "and then we're going to get back and"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "look at uh some of the the new updates."}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "I need a moderator. I need someone who"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "can show me links if someone's available"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "to pull up links and send me messages"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "with um the most up-to-date so I'm not"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "trying to produce this as we go."}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "Anybody here think they can moderate?"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "Anybody here able to moderate and uh"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "help send links and"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "Yes, I will mod some rando in chat."}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "I have a Discord."}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "Uh, okay. Let's see what"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "I swear I have friends, guys. I swear I"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "know people who who want to talk."}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "Cappy, I know you're just uh an average"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "infantryman. Any thoughts about the Ford"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "extension"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "upon extension upon extension, theater"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "to theater?"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "got to be taxed ship with hurting crews"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "and stress systems. Yeah. What I always"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "have said about the strain on the Navy"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "is like if you look at the Navy's own"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "website, they say"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "this we we are aiming to only have"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "sailors out at sea for this amount of"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "time, but during times of war and"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "increased pressure, expect to be out at"}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "sea as long as this amount of time. And"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "so far, correct me if I'm wrong, I might"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "be wrong, chat, but the extensions that"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "you uh that the sailors have received"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "have been within those limits. It's"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "within that threshold, and it's the"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "upper limit of it. They've been out at"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "sea as long as basically the Navy's own"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "website says expect to be out to sea."}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "And it sucks. Sucks. From everyone I've"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "spoken to"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "who's been out on sea that long, it's"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "difficult and it's stressful on your"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "family and it's stressful on the boats"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "the boat's life cycle the the ships. But"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "it's like, hey, I I got lucky. I wasn't"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "stoploss when I was in Iraq, but I I"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "know there are dudes that got stop-loss"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "and got extensions to 15 months on the"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "ground in Iraq. So when your country"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "calls you, it sucks. But they're being"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "taxed have uh more."}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "If this is about depleting the ability"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "to suppress the public's ability to"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "affect regime change, isn't this the"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "first of many strikes? Yes. And that's"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "what they're saying themselves. All the"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "messaging that I've heard is that they"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "are preparing for weeks of bombings."}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "If you have a problem with being on a"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "ship in the Navy, too blank and bad, the"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "army has to sit in a trench."}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "You're not wrong."}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "Cappy bro, what's happening with the"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "Squawk 7700 drone over Saudi right now?"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "I don't know. I don't have the the deets"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "on that."}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "Did I just say I don't have the deets?"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "This is why I don't live stream because"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "I say cringe stupid stuff like that. It"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "comes out of my mouth and then I can't"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "take it back and then it it can get"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "clipped and and it can be used against"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "me. But I said I don't have the deets. I"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "can never unsay that now. That's on"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "public record that I I said deets."}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "Type ofk am I?"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "Stupid. Stupid. Stupid."}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "In the video interview, Iran's Islamic"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "Revolutionary Guard Corps general has"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "stated that the missiles Iran is now"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "sending towards US forces are from the"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "back of the stockpile, warning that the"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "US will soon see weapons we've never"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "seen before."}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "You guys can press X to doubt at this mo"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "moment if you don't believe that. But"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "Iran is saying that we've only seen the"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "tip of the iceberg, boys. This is not"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "Baghdad Bob here saying that the troops"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "are nowhere near Baghdad. This is"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "Ibrahim Jabari. This is"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "this is Thrron Jabroni. This is not"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "Baghdad Bob."}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "Um, right here as you see"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "here, you you guys are body language"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "experts. What What do you think of what"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "he here? Let's hear him. Hear him."}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "Foreign"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech."}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:31", "text": "Is the US"}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "is the US going mode missile maxing or"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "is the US behaving like a complete"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "gooner baby spiking their cortisol and"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "lowering their tea? So to put this into"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "terms that generation Z can understand,"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "the US is trying to mog Iran right now"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "and we don't know if they're going to go"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "or max."}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "We have no idea. But they right now"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "their tea is pretty low."}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "That's what this has to say."}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "super duper hyperbolistic"}, {"start": "01:24:41", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "goats incoming. US Mog."}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "All right, let's continue on. Let's see"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "what else Osinet Defender is cooking."}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "He's cooking right now, guys. Follow him"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "if you aren't already, but he is"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "cooking."}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "This tastes terrible, by the way. This"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "is not a sponsorship. Dunkin Donuts is"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "awful. This tastes awful."}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "Tastes like water coffee."}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "It gets the job done."}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "All right, we're going to take a look at"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "the live conflict map."}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "which I have a paid version of. So,"}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "let's bring that up."}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "Just bringing up the paid version here."}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "Lebanese foreign ministry. We condemn"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "Iranian attacks on the sovereignty."}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "Saudi Arabia, UAE, Byron, Qatar, Jordan."}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "Israeli Air Force tanker over Syria"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "dragging F-16s to conduct air strikes on"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "Iran."}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "Explosions happening. Israeli"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "assessments indicate that Iranian"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "Revolutionary Guard Commander Muhammad"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "Akor has been assassinated. That's what"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "they're trying to take out is the"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "leadership. Since this morning, some 35"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "ballistic missiles were launched from"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:35", "text": "Iran at Israel. Some of the missiles"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "were intercepted by air defense and"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "others struck open areas. There have"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "also been reports of missile fragments"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "landing across Israel with one person"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "lightly hurt."}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "The commander of Israeli Army Northern"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:51", "text": "Command,"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "we are prepared to protect the residents"}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "of the northern region. We do not intend"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "to evacuate any residential area."}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "Take a look at the Strait of Hormuz."}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "Explosions heard in Dubai."}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "Yeah. So, it looks like all of the bases"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "are being targeted. I'm curious about"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "Jordan cuz I know we have a major air"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "base that we're using."}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "We're getting a call."}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "Hey Diego, you hear me?"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "Hey man, can you hear me?"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "All right. Having some technical"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "difficulties, but can you hear me?"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "Can you boys hear me?"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "Are we Are we still on this thing?"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "Just trying to bring my bro on. Just"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "trying to bring on friend of the show."}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "Hey, Chris. Can you hear me?"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "Yeah, I can hear you."}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "Can you hear me?"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "All right, we'll get back to the"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "monitoring the situation because I can't"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "get this situation figured out."}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "Israeli Defense Forces on Saturday"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "published a video of its air strike on"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "missile launchers in western Iran. Isra"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:32", "text": "Is Israel and the US take part in a"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:35", "text": "joint effort against Thran within the"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "Roaring Lion operation. The IDF struck"}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "with the direction of IDF intelligence"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "hundreds of Iranian military targets,"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "including missile launchers in Western"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "Iran. Alongside the Israeli Air Force"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:49", "text": "strike in Iran, the aerial defense array"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "is currently identifying and"}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "intercepting threats fired from Iran"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "toward the state of Israel."}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "So far, we're hearing Iran's foreign"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "ministry has blasted the US and Israel."}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "Cappy, you should disable the new tab"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "feed. You never know what crazy. CBS"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "didn't have so much trouble getting"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "Edward R. Burrow in from London in 1940."}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "Welcome channel member."}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "House Majority Whip praising President"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "Donald Trump after the US and Israel"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "began joint strikes on Iran overnight."}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "This is a bold, decisive,"}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "act of strength."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "Qatar reserves full right to defend"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "itself against Iranian aggression. Calls"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "for dialogue. Qatar's foreign ministry"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "said it reserves its full right to"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "defend itself after what it described as"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "Iranian aggression targeting Qatar's"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "territory"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "saw a report report Saudi Arabia is"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "joining the attacks on Iran can you"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "confirm it sounds like the countries"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "that are getting hit by Iranian"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "ballistic missiles are putting out"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "statements that they are"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "within their rights to respond and"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "defend themselves. So, is Saudi Arabia"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "getting involved? I I haven't seen those"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "reports yet. I don't know for a fact if"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "they are or aren't, but it appears like"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "Qatar is saying that they're allowed to"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "be."}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "Blasts were reported across several Gulf"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "states hosting US military assets,"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "including Qatar."}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "I take a look at the Straight of Hormuz."}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "That's something I'm closely looking at."}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "Several major oil companies and trading"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "houses have suspended oil and fuel"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "shipments through the Straight of"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "Hormuz. As a result of this morning's"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "exchange of fire between Israel, Iran,"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "and the United States, according to four"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "trading sources who spoke to Reuters,"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "Bahrain Ministry of Interior announced"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "the start of the evacuation of citizens."}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "So, it looks like Iran didn't"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "necessarily need to shut down the"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "straight of Hormuz. It's too risky to"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "transit through there anyway right Now,"}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "Let's take a look at what is Let's take"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "a look."}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "Iran hit hard. EA inside of Israel. It's"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "the beginning of strikes. Thousands more"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "to come. Long live Iran, says this"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "Iranian stan."}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "Matt SW says, \"Every leftist onx is"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "crying about Iran's evil dictator is"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "being removed from the earth, and every"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "single one of Iranian people is"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "celebrating and dancing like there's no"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "tomorrow.\" \"This has been extremely eye"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "opening,\" says Matt Swole."}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "Here's"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "what Reza Baleivi has to say. This is"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "the son of the sha who was disposed and"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "kicked out, exiled from Iran in 1979."}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "He says, \"My dear compatriots, decisive"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "moments lie before us. The assistance of"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "the president of the United States has"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "promised to the brave people of Iran has"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "now arrived. This is a humanitarian"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "intervention and its targets is the"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "Islamic Republic. Its apparatus of"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "repression and its machinery of killing,"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "not the country and great nation of"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "Iran. However, despite the arrival of"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "this assistance, the final victory will"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "still be achieved by us. It is we, the"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "people of Iran, who will finish this"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "task in the final battle. The time to"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "return to the streets is approaching."}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "So, this aligns with what we were"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "talking about earlier that it's going to"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "be up to the Iranian people if this"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "works or not largely because there is no"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:43", "text": "big armed faction inside of Iran like"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "there was in Libya like there were in"}, {"start": "01:39:43", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "other countries where you want regime"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "change. You want that giant armed army"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "just waiting ready to go to topple the"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "regime. But this is going to be the"}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "Iranian people if they're able to"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "overthrow the government. And it will"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "also so it'll depend on two things. How"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "effective are US strikes in decapitating"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "the Islamic Republic. And how effective"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "are the protests? Now Iran played their"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "hand already. They killed between 10 and"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "30,000 protesters is what the numbers"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "coming in say. So, they're hoping that"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "that has scared enough people that they"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "won't take to the streets even with"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "these strikes going on and that that'll"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "be enough."}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "But now the Islamic Republic is"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "collapsing says Paul Pali, \"My message"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "to the country's military, law"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "enforcement, and security forces is"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "clear. You have sworn an oath to protect"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:42", "text": "Iran and the Iranian nation, not the"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "Islamic Republic and its leaders. Your"}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:46", "text": "duty is to defend the people, not to"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "defend a regime that has taken our"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "homeland hostage through repression and"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "crime. Join the nation and help ensure a"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "stable and secure transition. Otherwise,"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "you will sink with Kamini's ship and his"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "crumbling regime. And my message to the"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "president of the United So, he's telling"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "the Iranian people that they should put"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "him in charge. and he has I've heard him"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "say before that he has said that if he"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "were to be he would be a transition"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "leader. Would that actually happen?"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "Would he actually come into Iran and"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "help them transition to a different"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "leader or would he just be like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "I'm pretty comfortable here. We I don't"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "know. I don't know enough to say.\" But"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "that's what people are considering."}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "I was 10 years old when they seized our"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "embassy and the number 444 is burned in"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "my memory. That's even before 1983 when"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "my feelings were crystallized. Payback"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:46", "text": "day. ODS veteran 19 kilo. I think that's"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "tanker. I've been out for a bit as you"}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "guys know. Um,"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "will we be having chicken tendies in"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "Tyrron soon? I think t chicken tendies"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "are on the the menu right now, but are"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "they going to actually be served or not"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "is something that we're going to have to"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "wait and see. Listen, would I love to"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "have some chicken tendies? Sure."}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "Which attack against Americans are we"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "avenging?"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "So, we're going to go on with Reza's"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "message here to the Iranian people."}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "We'll see. So, he's the one that is"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "saying that he'll be Sorry, my my dog my"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "little pug's barking. I got to shut the"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "door."}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "I'm wearing a hat because because this"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "hairline's in trouble. You guys,"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "I might I might have to go to Turkey."}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "I'm I don't know if the airspace is"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "closed, but I'm going to have to go to"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "Turkey."}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "get this get that situation fixed up"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "there."}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:01", "text": "Um, so he's saying, \"The honorable"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "people of Iran, despite the brutal"}, {"start": "01:43:01", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "repression and killings carried out by"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "this regime, stood bravely for two"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "months. I now ask you to exercise the"}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "utmost possible caution to preserve the"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "lives of civilians and my compatriots.\""}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "So he's talking about the PE he's saying"}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "so when the protest happened in January"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "2026"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "United States was not in place. They"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "didn't have all their ducks in a row."}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "They weren't prepared and ready to to"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:29", "text": "launch this massive strike. They didn't"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "have everything in"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "in view and ability to do this type of"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:38", "text": "operation. But now so unfortunately"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "the people went out they protested and"}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "they felt like they got kind of got hung"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "out to dry. But it would just took some"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "time for the forces to get into theater."}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "So he's saying, \"Listen, I know a lot of"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "you got killed last time, but this"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "time's going to be different"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "in these.\" So, uh, Reza continues here."}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "He says, \"In these sensitive hours and"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "days, more than ever, we must remain"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "focused on our ultimate goal, reclaiming"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "Iran."}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "I ask you for now to remain in your"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "homes and remain calm and safe. Stay"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "alert and ready to return to the streets"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "the final action at the appropriate time"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "which I will communicate to you. Follow"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "my messages through social media and"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "satellite media. If disruptions occur in"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "the internet and satellite broadcast, I"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:27", "text": "will remain in contact with you via"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "radio. Oh, that's that's like"}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "that's some undercover"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "operation right there. He's going to be"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "on old school. He's going to be talking"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "to you through radio communications."}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "That's some secret squirrel [ __ ] right"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "there. Unbelievable. Iranian high school"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "students are thanking President Trump"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "for striking the regime in Iran. I love"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "Trump, one student says. Can we get some"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "audio here? Can we get some audio?"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "Who supports Israel seizing Lebanon and"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "Temple Mount during the joint operation?"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "I personally I don't support that. But"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "hey, greater Israel appears to be coming"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "together."}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "The only way I see the regime toppled is"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:41", "text": "if the conventional forces stand up"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "against the IRGC. I am doubtful but"}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "hopeful. I would agree with you. I say"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "I'm skeptical. I'd be very impressed if"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "they were able to actually topple the"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "regime with just air strikes. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "we've seen the reason these things are"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "so difficult and really impossible to"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "predict and talking about it in terms of"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "just likelihoods is the most effective"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "thing to do is because"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "the the likelihood that air strikes are"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "able to topple the the government. it."}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "Yeah, it's very possible, but it would"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "take certain things happening. Certain"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "things need to happen for that to to go"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "down. For instance, the IRGC wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "necessarily need to stand up and take up"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:27", "text": "arms and try to take over the country."}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "It would ne it would be that they need"}, {"start": "01:46:27", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "to stand down. They could just not show"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "up for the regime and that would be"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "enough. Or yeah, they could take up"}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "arms. But if the IRGC was to take up"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "arms, you wouldn't probably see freedom"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:44", "text": "and democracy in Iran. What you would"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "see is"}, {"start": "01:46:44", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "a military government. So the IRGC would"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "just become the government. It wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "necessarily be a theocracy. It would be"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "a uh it would be martial law in the"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "country instead. So some of the things"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "that we're seeing, some of the"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "diplomatic considerations that are"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "happening is how are the other countries"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "going to respond to this? So what is"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:07", "text": "China and Russia going to say about"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "this? And what they're saying is that"}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "the United States is war addicted. Their"}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "argument is that you see what happened"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "in Venezuela recently. You see the the"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "the weapons going to Ukraine to support"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "that war. And their argument is that the"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "United States is war addicted. and"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "they're going to paint the United States"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "now as imperialists and then being in a"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:37", "text": "an empire. So there, this is the quote"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "from China. They say, \"The US is a war"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "addict. Throughout its 240 year history,"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "it has been at war for all but 16 years."}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "The US has 800 overseas military bases"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "in over 80 countries and regions. The US"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "is the main cause of international"}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "disorder, global turbulence, and"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "regional instability."}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "This is the kind of thing you ever do"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "something and you're like, I can't take"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "that back. You ever just, you know, it's"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "a crossing of the Rubicon moment that"}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "we're witnessing here. This is historic"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:12", "text": "because you can't you cannot roll the"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:14", "text": "clock back on this decision. It's going"}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "to have major implications with Russia"}, {"start": "01:48:14", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "and China, especially China. If China is"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "this this is not in China's interest,"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:26", "text": "this is very bad for China. and"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "what we're going to see. It's hard for"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:32", "text": "me to say how this affects any possible"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "timeline for invasion of Taiwan, but"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "that's something they're thinking about."}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "US and Israel"}, {"start": "01:48:43", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "major combat. A short time ago, the"}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "United States military began major"}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "combat operations in Iran."}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "We're going to listen to this. Hold on."}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:01", "text": "is to defend the American people by"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "eliminating eminent threats from the"}, {"start": "01:49:01", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "Iranian regime. A vicious group of very"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:14", "text": "short time ago, the United States"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "military began major combat operations"}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "in Iran."}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:21", "text": "Our objective is to defend the American"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "people by eliminating eminent threats"}, {"start": "01:49:21", "end": "01:49:30", "text": "from the Iranian regime. a vicious group"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "of very hard, terrible people."}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "So, you hear the the wording there. A"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "lot of times when you ever you hear a"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:40", "text": "military uh the top leaders launch a"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "military strike like this, they like to"}, {"start": "01:49:40", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "leave wiggle room. So, when if you go"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "back and watch Putin's speech when he"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "invaded Ukraine, they leave a ton of"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "wiggle room. And this might change as we"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "listen to the rest of this, but"}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "basically the statement that he just"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "said there, you could take that to mean"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "almost anything, it could this way if"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "the regime ch change operation isn't"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "successful. What you could say is, well,"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:07", "text": "that's not what we were trying to do."}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:10", "text": "Cuz he doesn't just come out and say"}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "today we struck Iran and the only way"}, {"start": "01:50:10", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "we're going to be happy is if the"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:16", "text": "Islamic Republic is ousted from power."}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "They don't say that because that's not a"}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "guarantee. So, I mean, maybe he'll go on"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:21", "text": "to say that he's Trump, but let's let's"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "keep listening."}, {"start": "01:50:21", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "Its menacing activities directly"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "endanger the United States, our troops,"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "our bases overseas, and our allies"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "throughout the world. For 47 years, the"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "Iranian regime has chanted death to"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "America and waged an unending campaign"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "of bloodshed and mass murder, targeting"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "the United States, our troops, and the"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "innocent people in many, many countries."}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "Among the regime's very first acts was"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "to back a violent takeover of the US"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "embassy in Tran, holding dozens of"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "American hostages for 444 days."}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "In 1983, Iran's proxies carried out the"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "So, he's going to litigate and go"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "through all the list of what I would say"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "is our what is our how do you pronounce"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "it, guys? Chat, how do you say this? Our"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "quesus belly. I'm very good with foreign"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "words. So, I think that I nailed that"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "one. It's as Clausuititz would say, it's"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:24", "text": "our justification for war. What is What"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "is our justification? Marine barracks"}, {"start": "01:51:24", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "bombing in Beirut that killed 241"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "American military personnel"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:35", "text": "in 2000. They knew and were probably"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "involved with the attack on the USS"}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "Cole. Many died. Iranian forces killed"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "and maimed hundreds of American service"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "members in Iraq. The regime's proxies"}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "have continued to launch countless"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:51", "text": "attacks against American forces"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "stationed in the Middle East in recent"}, {"start": "01:51:51", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "years, as well as US naval and"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "commercial vessels in international"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "shipping lands. It's been mass terror,"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "and we're not going to put up with it"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "any longer. From Lebanon to Yemen and"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "Syria to Iraq, the regime has armed,"}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "trained, and funded terrorist militias"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "that have soaked the earth with blood"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "and guts."}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "And it was Iran's proxy, Hamas, that"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "launched the monstrous October 7th"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:28", "text": "attacks on Israel, slaughtering more"}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "than 1,000 innocent people, including 46"}, {"start": "01:52:28", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "Americans, while taking 12 of our"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:37", "text": "citizens, hostage. It was brutal,"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "something like the world has never seen"}, {"start": "01:52:37", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "before."}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "Iran is the world's number one state"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "sponsor of terror and just recently"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "killed tens of thousands of its own"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:50", "text": "citizens on the street as they"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "protested. It has always been the policy"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "of the United States, in particular my"}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "administration, that this terrorist"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "regime can never have a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:03", "text": "I'll say it again. So, he's outlining"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "everything that we've been going over,"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:07", "text": "the different justifications, and you"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "can put the amount of weight on each"}, {"start": "01:53:07", "end": "01:53:12", "text": "justification that you want. Do you"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "think that it's mainly because we're"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "trying to prevent nuclear proliferation"}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:21", "text": "by Iran? Or do you think that it's"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "mainly because of the way that they"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "violently put down the protests? Do you"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "think that it's a strategic concern"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "having to do with the the energy"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "resources that are on? Is it about oil?"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:35", "text": "There's two things you can't do with the"}, {"start": "01:53:33", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "United States. One, you cannot touch our"}, {"start": "01:53:35", "end": "01:53:40", "text": "boats. And two, you cannot touch our"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "oil."}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "Now, you know, you guys know me. I'm"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "always down to die for oil. There's"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "nothing more important. It's how we run"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "our vehicles. It's how we get anywhere"}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "in life. What would where would I be"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:53", "text": "without oil? I would be freezing right"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "now. Do you have any idea how cold it is"}, {"start": "01:53:53", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "in New Jersey? So oil it's I would argue"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "it's the most important thing to go to"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:05", "text": "war for. What is more important to die"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "for than oil? I mean going to war for"}, {"start": "01:54:05", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "anything else would be pretty messed up"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "if you ask me. It's not that that would"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "be you're going to go to war for"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:14", "text": "something about like religion. No, the"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:17", "text": "new crusades have much better"}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "justifications. We're going to war over"}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "oil, something actually valuable."}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "And that is not saying that in full"}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "serious never have a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "That is why in operation midnight hammer"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "last June we obliterated the regime's"}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:41", "text": "nuclear program at Ford Natans and"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:43", "text": "Isvahan."}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "After that attack, we warned them never"}, {"start": "01:54:43", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "to resume their malicious pursuit of"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:55", "text": "nuclear weapons and"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "oil maxing going to war for Israel."}, {"start": "01:54:55", "end": "01:55:00", "text": "If it is nuke proliferation, Trump"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "wouldn't have taken us out of the"}, {"start": "01:55:00", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "agreement with them. Well, I will say"}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "this. The United States gets a bad rap"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "for our missions to stop nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "because everyone remembers the Iraq"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "regime change because of us saying they"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:17", "text": "were WMDs. But we don't get credit for"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "stopping a lot of other countries from"}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "getting nuclear weapons. For instance,"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "did you know that Taiwan got very close"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "to developing nuclear weapons? I believe"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "in the 1960s, late 1960s, and the CIA"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "discovered their secret nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "program and they put diplomatic pressure"}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "on Taiwan and they stopped them from"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "developing the weapon a little bit by"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:42", "text": "giving them sort of tacit uh under the"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:44", "text": "table guarantees that we would protect"}, {"start": "01:55:42", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "Taiwan and they don't need to develop"}, {"start": "01:55:44", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "nuclear weapons. But we also stopped"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:52", "text": "South Korea from developing nuclear"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "weapons. They were very close to getting"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "the bomb and they had a a secret nuclear"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "weapons program and we put diplomatic"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "and pressure on them and said, \"Hey, no,"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "we got your back. We're going to be"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "there for you. You don't need to develop"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "nukes to protect yourself.\" So"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:13", "text": "non, you know, nuclear proliferation and"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "stopping it from happening has always"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:19", "text": "been one of the United States,"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:21", "text": "it's just it's like that's the main"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "that's the main quest. That's not even"}, {"start": "01:56:21", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "the side quest."}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "China's oil sources seem to be drying up"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "lately. Yes, that is, I believe, the"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "greatest reason for this. I I don't"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "think it has as much to do with nuclear"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "weapons. I don't think it has to do as"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "much with them killing a bunch of their"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "own protesters. I think it has to do"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "with stopping China from having cheap"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "oil supplies because it's not like"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:49", "text": "China, you know, we got, okay,"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "Venezuela, Iran, 20% of China's oil."}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:53", "text": "That doesn't mean that when you shut"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:55", "text": "that down that 20% of their oil is gone."}, {"start": "01:56:53", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "What it means is they have to get that"}, {"start": "01:56:55", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "20% from different sources. So they'll"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:04", "text": "just change and get more from Russia,"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "which of course has its own"}, {"start": "01:57:04", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "implications. But let's continue here."}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:12", "text": "Repeatedly to make a deal. We tried."}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "They wanted to do it. They didn't want"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "to do it again. They wanted to do it."}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:18", "text": "They didn't want to do it. They didn't"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "know what was happening. They just"}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "wanted to practice evil. But Iran"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "refused just as it has for decades and"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "decades."}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "They've rejected every opportunity to"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "renounce their nuclear ambitions"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "and we can't take it anymore. Instead,"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "they attempted to rebuild their nuclear"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "program and to continue developing long"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "range missiles that can now threaten our"}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:50", "text": "very good friends and allies in Europe,"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "our troops stationed overseas and could"}, {"start": "01:57:50", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "soon reach the American homeland."}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "Just imagine how emboldened this regime"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "would be if they ever had and actually"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "were armed with nuclear weapons as a"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "means to deliver their message. For"}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:10", "text": "these reasons, the United States"}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:13", "text": "military is undertaking a massive and"}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "ongoing operation to prevent this very"}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:18", "text": "wicked, radical dictatorship from"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "threatening America and our core"}, {"start": "01:58:18", "end": "01:58:23", "text": "national security interests. We are"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "going to destroy their missiles and"}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:30", "text": "raise their missile industry to the"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "ground. It will be totally again"}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "obliterated. We are going to annihilate"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "their navy. We are going to ensure that"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "the region's terrorist proxies can no"}, {"start": "01:58:38", "end": "01:58:43", "text": "longer destabilize the region or the"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "world and attack our forces. to no"}, {"start": "01:58:43", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "longer"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:49", "text": "this is interesting because he is sort"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "of he's"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:53", "text": "saying a lot of what the conditions are"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "that he wants to achieve. So if the"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "United States doesn't he's he must be"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "very confident that he can have a"}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:04", "text": "mission success here because it would"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "not look good if he's unable to reach"}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "these conditions and"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:09", "text": "he's put them out there. I'm surprised"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "that he's"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:16", "text": "no longer used their i.e. or roadside as"}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "they are sometimes called to so gravely"}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "wound and kill thousands and thousands"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "of people including many Americans. And"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:29", "text": "we will ensure that Iran does not obtain"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "a nuclear weapon. It's a very simple"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "message. They will never have a nuclear"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "weapon. This regime will soon learn that"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "no one should challenge the strength and"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:44", "text": "might of the United States armed forces."}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "I built and rebuilt our military in my"}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "first administration"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "and there is no military on earth even"}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "close to its power, strength or"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "sophistication."}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "My administration has taken every"}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "02:00:02", "text": "possible step to minimize the risk to US"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "personnel in the region. Even so, and I"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "do not make this statement lightly, the"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "Iranian regime seeks to kill. The lives"}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "of courageous American heroes may be"}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "lost and we may have casualties."}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:23", "text": "He's acknowledging that"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "the Islamic Republic of Iran has the"}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:28", "text": "ability to inflict casualties and we"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "still haven't got the battle damage"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "assessments in from those missiles that"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "were launched. We're unsure if anyone"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "was killed or injured at those bases"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:41", "text": "that were hit, but it would be some of"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "the first casualties because in the past"}, {"start": "02:00:41", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "those ballistic missile strikes on US"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "facilities and on Israeli facilities,"}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "there were limited casualties. So Iran"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "has been saying every since the 12-day"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "war, they've been saying that, you know,"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "you we haven't revealed our full full"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "power level. Like if you if you were to"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:04", "text": "to check out our full power level, it's"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "actually we're about to go Super Saiyan"}, {"start": "02:01:04", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "any minute now. Iran has been teasing"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:13", "text": "that they they're about to go full Super"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "Saiyan at any moment and that they're"}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "just hiding their power level. But if"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "they don't kill any or make any major"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "damage in the next few days, I think we"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:26", "text": "could safely assume at that point that"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "they've been lying. And they're not even"}, {"start": "02:01:26", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "saying they're not. This is their final"}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "form. You know, and when they say this"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "isn't even our final form, they are"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:37", "text": "lying, boys."}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "That often happens in war, but we're"}, {"start": "02:01:37", "end": "02:01:42", "text": "doing this not for now. We're doing this"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "for the future. And it is a noble"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "mission. We pray for every service"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "member as they selflessly risk their"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "lives to ensure that Americans and our"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "children will never be threatened by a"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "nuclear armed Iran. We ask God to"}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "protect all of our heroes in harm's way."}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:04", "text": "And we trust that with his help, the men"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "and women of the armed forces will"}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:09", "text": "prevail. We have the greatest in the"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "world and they will prevail. To the"}, {"start": "02:02:09", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "members of the Islamic Revolutionary"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:18", "text": "Guard, the armed forces, and all of the"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "police, I say tonight that you must lay"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "down your weapons and have complete"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "immunity or in the alternative face"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "certain death."}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "That's cold. Those that's Boys, that's"}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "some cold words there."}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:37", "text": "It is surprising to me right now the"}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "level of uh he's sort of putting his"}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "cards on the table here. They are going"}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "all in. This is the scenario that a lot"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "of people thought was going to happen,"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "which is they are putting their cards on"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:51", "text": "the table and saying we're going to try"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:54", "text": "to annihilate the Iranian regime. And"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "what that strategy does by going uh I'll"}, {"start": "02:02:54", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "call it the balls to the wall strategy"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:04", "text": "is that it signals to the Iranian people"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "that we are that deep. We are balls deep"}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:09", "text": "in this in this conflict. And when"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "you're that deep, it's very difficult to"}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:14", "text": "pull out. And if you give that kind of"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "insurance uh assurance to the people,"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:20", "text": "then they will be more likely to"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:23", "text": "protest and to try to topple the regime"}, {"start": "02:03:20", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "from within. So that's the I I would say"}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "just my read on it is that's the play"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "here that they're trying to"}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "signal to the the resistance groups that"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:38", "text": "this is a a balls in scenario."}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:41", "text": "So lay down your arms. You will be"}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "treated fairly with total immunity or"}, {"start": "02:03:41", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "you will face certain death. Finally, to"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:50", "text": "the great proud people of Iran, I say"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "tonight that the hour of your freedom is"}, {"start": "02:03:50", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "at hand. Stay sheltered. Don't leave"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:58", "text": "your home. It's very dangerous outside."}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When"}, {"start": "02:03:58", "end": "02:04:03", "text": "we are finished, take over your"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "government. It will be yours to take."}, {"start": "02:04:03", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "Guys, this is a call to action. This is"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "a click the link in the description or"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "the pin comment below and that link is"}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "to overthrow your government. They're"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:19", "text": "there. This is the ask. This is the CTA."}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "The call to action is being made. Take."}, {"start": "02:04:19", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "This will be probably your only chance"}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "for generations. For many years, you"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "have asked for America's help, but you"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:33", "text": "never got it. No president was willing"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "to do what I am willing to do tonight."}, {"start": "02:04:33", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "Now you have a president who is giving"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "you what you want. So let's see how you"}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "respond. America is backing you with"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "overwhelming strength and devastating"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "force. Now is the time to seize control"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "of your destiny and to unleash the"}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "prosperous and glorious future that is"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:58", "text": "close within your reach. This is the"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "moment for action. Do not let it pass."}, {"start": "02:04:58", "end": "02:05:03", "text": "May God bless the brave men and women of"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "America's armed forces. May God bless"}, {"start": "02:05:03", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "the United States of America. May God"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "bless you all. Thank you."}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "Okay, boys."}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "This is the moment for action. Do not"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "let it pass. May God bless the brave men"}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "and women of America's armed forces. May"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "God bless the United States of America."}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:40", "text": "What do you guys think?"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "He's He's putting it all on the ca the"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:51", "text": "table. He is just letting it hang out."}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:53", "text": "He's putting He's saying that they're"}, {"start": "02:05:51", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "going"}, {"start": "02:05:53", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "I'm surprised. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "it's a roll of the dice."}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:05", "text": "And the big question is, are the Iranian"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:07", "text": "people going to be able to overthrow?"}, {"start": "02:06:05", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "Reportedly, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary"}, {"start": "02:06:07", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "Guard Corps commander"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "Apur and the Iranian defense minister"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "were both killed in these air strikes."}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "Which goes to show if that's true, if"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "that's true, let's assume that's true."}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "How insane are these weapon systems that"}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "they're able to even though the everyone"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "in Iran, all of their military"}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "leadership expected this to happen, they"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "all thought this was going to happen."}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "That means that they were prepared. They"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "were hiding. They're in deeply buried"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "basement and hardened facilities and"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "they still they still got killed by"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:56", "text": "these weapon systems. And is there"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:56", "text": "nowhere that you can hide?"}, {"start": "02:06:57", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "Let's see if we can hear a"}, {"start": "02:07:25", "end": "02:07:29", "text": "I don't know if there's"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:34", "text": "an American. Usually he'll come out and"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "do he'll do a he'll speak in"}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "in English in American accent."}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "in America's institutions and"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:07", "text": "okay, we haven't heard"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "updates from"}, {"start": "02:08:07", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "Egg Seth yet."}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:22", "text": "speak American."}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "Just going to see. No president was"}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "willing to violate article one of"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "constitution until May to go to war with"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:37", "text": "Iran with Iran. So it is surprising as"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:40", "text": "an American. Personally, I do find it"}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:42", "text": "surprising that this kind of operation,"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "this kind of war is allowed to happen"}, {"start": "02:08:42", "end": "02:08:48", "text": "without congressional approval. It is"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "something that people"}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:53", "text": "feel like is uh a bit touchy of a"}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:53", "text": "subject."}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "Someone just said, \"Wow, Cappy got more"}, {"start": "02:08:56", "end": "02:09:02", "text": "viewers than CNN.\" We've got 7,800"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "current viewers with us. And I just want"}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "to say a huge thank you to everyone that"}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:11", "text": "is joining us today. We are right now"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:14", "text": "just doing kind of some open- source"}, {"start": "02:09:11", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "research on what is happening. If you"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "can get the people of Iran to have"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "revolution, I'm all for it. I think air"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "power will be used along with special"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "forces. Land forces will only be used as"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "a last resort. So earlier we were going"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "over this document which is the"}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "blueprint for the operation in Iran."}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "This is the"}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:41", "text": "right here is the rundown of all the"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:43", "text": "leak documents that shows how they"}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:45", "text": "operate and a little bit further on you"}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "get the actual pinpoint locations of"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:53", "text": "where these"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "here we go. So this is various IRGC and"}, {"start": "02:09:53", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "Basiji battalions. I'll share this link"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "with you guys so you can follow along if"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "you like."}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:07", "text": "But"}, {"start": "02:10:05", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "02:10:07", "end": "02:10:11", "text": "this is what we're looking at here. This"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:13", "text": "is what they call the inner. It's a"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:15", "text": "layered system. It's like an onion if"}, {"start": "02:10:13", "end": "02:10:21", "text": "you would. If you're going to peel that"}, {"start": "02:10:15", "end": "02:10:24", "text": "onion apart, this is a layered system of"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:26", "text": "various security circles. This is how"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "the the tactics of how they repress"}, {"start": "02:10:26", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "rebellions. This is the plan that"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "they're putting into action right now,"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "which is called there's white plan,"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "orange plan, and red plan. And this what"}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:39", "text": "they're putting into action right now is"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "plan red which puts all of the Iranian"}, {"start": "02:10:39", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "military basically subordinate to these"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "repression systems because Iran's"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:50", "text": "military is actually not set up to"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "destroy US military assets in the"}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:54", "text": "region. What it's set up to do is look"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:57", "text": "inward and fight inward because"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:10:58", "text": "conditions for success, I would say, for"}, {"start": "02:10:57", "end": "02:11:01", "text": "Iran. And after listening to what Trump"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "just said, it's very clear what the"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:05", "text": "conditions for a victory for Iran is."}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:07", "text": "It's not killing a bunch of US"}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:10", "text": "servicemen. It's not destroying a bunch"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "of aircraft in Israel with ballistic"}, {"start": "02:11:10", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "missile strikes. The conditions for Iran"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "for winning are simple. All it needs to"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:19", "text": "do is the Islamic Republic, I should"}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "say, needs to survive. If the Islamic"}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "Republic survives, they have won"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "essentially, I would say. I think that's"}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:27", "text": "fair to say. I don't know about what you"}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "guys believe, but that's why their"}, {"start": "02:11:27", "end": "02:11:33", "text": "military is, you know, their priority is"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:37", "text": "not defeating the US military. You can't"}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:39", "text": "do that. Their priority is is suppress"}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "any rebellion and keep the Islamic"}, {"start": "02:11:39", "end": "02:11:46", "text": "Republic in power. And this is how they"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "do it, which with an inner ring of IRGC"}, {"start": "02:11:46", "end": "02:11:49", "text": "security personnel. And then there's a"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "middle ring around let's say the protest"}, {"start": "02:11:49", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "is in the center of um the basi and"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "there's an outer ring that basically you"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:04", "text": "see here in this map it suppresses any"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:06", "text": "type of rebellion and they go to any"}, {"start": "02:12:04", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "localized area where like Tyrron"}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "University or anywhere that students are"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "protesting or anywhere that they're"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "meeting up."}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "So"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:21", "text": "it shows how they then when they when"}, {"start": "02:12:19", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "they get these people they put them into"}, {"start": "02:12:21", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "secret prisons in eastern Tyrron. And"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "this is the red situation that I was"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:30", "text": "talking about. Red situation is declared"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:32", "text": "when the demonstrations have spread"}, {"start": "02:12:30", "end": "02:12:36", "text": "throughout the country and the survival"}, {"start": "02:12:32", "end": "02:12:37", "text": "of the regime is under imminent threat."}, {"start": "02:12:36", "end": "02:12:40", "text": "If the red situation is announced in"}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "Thrron, it means the IRGC corps has"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:43", "text": "failed to neutralize the threat and"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "protests have spread in scope and scale."}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "So that's what we're going to be looking"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:51", "text": "at as the day goes on is we're going to"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "be trying to determine if the the scale"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:57", "text": "of the protests, is it spreading? Are"}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "the Iranian Kurdish armed groups on the"}, {"start": "02:12:57", "end": "02:13:02", "text": "on the outskirts of the country, are"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "they fighting back? IRGC was labeled"}, {"start": "02:13:02", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "terrorists. don't need to declare."}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "So, you're saying that the US doesn't"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "need to declare"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "uh a war because they've already been"}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "labeled terrorists."}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "You might be technically right, which I"}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "believe is the best kind of right."}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "We see here some of the locations where"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:30", "text": "the US military is bombing already. The"}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "reason you're seeing bomb icons in the"}, {"start": "02:13:30", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "west of Iran here is because that's"}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:36", "text": "where their missile infrastructure is."}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "Cappy, why is their missile"}, {"start": "02:13:36", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "infrastructure on the western part of a"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "country? That's because that's where all"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "their targets are. They're firing. They"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "want to get as close to their targets,"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "Israel and US bases are all to the west."}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:50", "text": "So they have their missile"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:53", "text": "infrastructure all throughout here which"}, {"start": "02:13:50", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "is if you look at the topography the"}, {"start": "02:13:53", "end": "02:13:59", "text": "geography of the country. What you're"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:01", "text": "looking at here is Iran has mountains."}, {"start": "02:13:59", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "They have mountains all through here and"}, {"start": "02:14:01", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "that's where they dig these missile"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:05", "text": "bases into. So, you're going to see them"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:08", "text": "hitting these missile bases in the"}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:11", "text": "western part of the country and they're"}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "detecting the ballistic missile launches"}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:15", "text": "because they have satellites in space"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:17", "text": "that can detect heat changes and as soon"}, {"start": "02:14:15", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "as they're fired, they're geoloccated"}, {"start": "02:14:17", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "instantly. And then it's also"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:25", "text": "interesting to see there are bombings"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "happening in the south of the country in"}, {"start": "02:14:25", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "the southern part of the country here."}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "So far, Iran is saying that the death"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "toll is 40. 40 people have been killed."}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "I'm going to keep going on look at more"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:52", "text": "of these. So, these bombings are"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "happening in the southern part of the"}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "country. Dubai is getting hit as well"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "right now. Let's take a look at that."}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "You can hear the explosions happening."}, {"start": "02:15:16", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "Even in the eastern part of Iran, we're"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "seeing missile strikes occur. But let's"}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "take a look at the main course on the"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:31", "text": "Oh, damn. You guys see that?"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:31", "text": "Holy crap."}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "Look at these. That's huge."}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "Big ass bombs being dropped right now."}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "And this is near Thyron. We're seeing"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "this geoloccated"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:55", "text": "Iranian foreign minister."}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "They say that Iran is saying that it's"}, {"start": "02:15:55", "end": "02:16:00", "text": "wholly unprovoked, illegal, and"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "illegitimate. Trump has tuned America"}, {"start": "02:16:00", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "first into Israel first, according to"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:09", "text": "Iran, which means always America last."}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "Our powerful armed forces are prepared"}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "for this day and will teach the"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:16", "text": "aggressors the lesson they deserve. This"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "is Iran. We see reports of a student"}, {"start": "02:16:16", "end": "02:16:24", "text": "being killed in a missile strike. We see"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "the IRGC says a US military seal lift"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:28", "text": "command combat support vessel was"}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "severely hit by missiles fired by its"}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:34", "text": "naval forces. It added that other US"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:37", "text": "Navy assets will remain within range of"}, {"start": "02:16:34", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "Iranian missiles and drones as attacks"}, {"start": "02:16:37", "end": "02:16:41", "text": "continue. So those are just some initial"}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:44", "text": "reports coming out. The New York Times"}, {"start": "02:16:41", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "have already attained this satellite"}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "image here that we saw earlier"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "that"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "was was the leader there. We don't know"}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "yet."}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "Targeting our political leaders will not"}, {"start": "02:16:56", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "go unanswered and all political targets"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "are now within the scope of our"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "response."}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "Some people are saying Iran has a right"}, {"start": "02:17:18", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "to defend itself. That's that's what I"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:26", "text": "often hear in the comment section that"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "Iran Yes. and the Iranian people also"}, {"start": "02:17:26", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "have a right to decide what government"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "they want going forward. And we're about"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:36", "text": "to find out."}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:38", "text": "It's so hard. There's some intangibles"}, {"start": "02:17:36", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "in war. There's some things in war and"}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:42", "text": "in conflicts that are very hard to"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "quantify. And one of the things that I"}, {"start": "02:17:42", "end": "02:17:48", "text": "think is so difficult to quantify is"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "that kind of grassroots ground level"}, {"start": "02:17:48", "end": "02:17:56", "text": "protest."}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:18:01", "text": "It's very difficult to determine if"}, {"start": "02:17:56", "end": "02:18:03", "text": "the It's very difficult to determine if"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "the support is there or not. and little"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "literal empires have risen and fallen"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "based on those assessments on the"}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:14", "text": "ability to quantify something very"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "difficult like how much resistance is"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "there and how much"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "belief is there on the ground that they"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "can overthrow the government. So you saw"}, {"start": "02:18:22", "end": "02:18:26", "text": "for instance in Afghanistan the"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:28", "text": "assessments were wildly incorrect and we"}, {"start": "02:18:26", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "thought that"}, {"start": "02:18:28", "end": "02:18:34", "text": "the that the will to not be under"}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "Taliban rule was very strong. That's"}, {"start": "02:18:34", "end": "02:18:39", "text": "what we assessed. But as soon as the US"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:41", "text": "withdrew from Afghanistan, it was clear"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "that the will of the people was not"}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "there. That that the people did not want"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:51", "text": "did not were not willing to die to fight"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:53", "text": "against the Taliban. and the Taliban"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "very quickly took control of the"}, {"start": "02:18:53", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "country. And then when you look in"}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "Ukraine, a lot of people thought that"}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "the Ukrainian will to fight was very low"}, {"start": "02:18:59", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "and that they weren't going to fight"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:05", "text": "back. But"}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:07", "text": "they"}, {"start": "02:19:05", "end": "02:19:10", "text": "fought back tooth and nail. And it's"}, {"start": "02:19:07", "end": "02:19:13", "text": "very difficult to force a will on"}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:15", "text": "people. The CIA cannot go in there and"}, {"start": "02:19:13", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "move the needle that much when you're"}, {"start": "02:19:15", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "talking about the scale of millions of"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:21", "text": "people. That will needs to be organic."}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "It's like you can't create something out"}, {"start": "02:19:21", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "of thin air. And one of the things that"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:27", "text": "you cannot I mean you can put pressure"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:29", "text": "and you can certainly influence here and"}, {"start": "02:19:27", "end": "02:19:32", "text": "there on the on the fringes on the edges"}, {"start": "02:19:29", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "but it's very difficult very difficult"}, {"start": "02:19:32", "end": "02:19:38", "text": "maybe not impossible but very difficult"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:40", "text": "to change the will of the people. So,"}, {"start": "02:19:38", "end": "02:19:45", "text": "we're about to find out here if the will"}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:45", "text": "of the people what they want."}, {"start": "02:19:49", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "Afghanistan and Persia are not the same"}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:58", "text": "bad comparison. Yeah, there's no perfect"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "one to one analogy. I'll admit that. I"}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "don't care what people say. It's not"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:05", "text": "Iran, it's Persia. It was 48 years ago"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:11", "text": "before Islam took captivity of the"}, {"start": "02:20:05", "end": "02:20:11", "text": "country. America barely able to retreat."}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:31", "text": "But do you think the intelligence"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:34", "text": "services also guessed wrong or do you"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "think they had a clearer picture? Were"}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "there any big ground protests in Iraq"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "before the war? I as far as I know,"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "there were not. As far as I know, the"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:46", "text": "intelligence services had some incorrect"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "assessments in the past about those"}, {"start": "02:20:46", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "intangibles and misread a lot of the"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:54", "text": "situation, which is part of the reason"}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:56", "text": "why I think when you heard what Trump"}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "was saying about the goals with this"}, {"start": "02:20:56", "end": "02:21:01", "text": "operation,"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:02", "text": "I mean, I think he's saying that their"}, {"start": "02:21:01", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "goal is they want the overthrow of the"}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:06", "text": "Islamic Republic, but I think that they"}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:11", "text": "would also be happy with it just being"}, {"start": "02:21:06", "end": "02:21:14", "text": "an absolute chaotic disaster in Iran."}, {"start": "02:21:11", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "It's um I mean what what we're seeing is"}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:19", "text": "happening very quickly on the ground"}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:22", "text": "here. We're putting out the Osenet map"}, {"start": "02:21:19", "end": "02:21:24", "text": "if you want to follow along with this."}, {"start": "02:21:22", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "And we also have links out there to this"}, {"start": "02:21:24", "end": "02:21:30", "text": "document which is the blueprint for this"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "invasion. I would say I would argue uh"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:36", "text": "not invasion but these targeted strikes"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:38", "text": "these I mean if we can in the past air"}, {"start": "02:21:36", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "power has been very limited in what it"}, {"start": "02:21:38", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "can achieve. It's had difficulties in"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "taking out um"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:51", "text": "it's had difficulties in taking out even"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:54", "text": "ballistic missiles and nuclear"}, {"start": "02:21:51", "end": "02:21:57", "text": "facilities. But recently, air power has"}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "gotten more of an advantage. It seems it"}, {"start": "02:21:57", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "seems like due to"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "technology catching up with the"}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "capabilities, it's able to achieve more."}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "And but it's unclear what what's going"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "to be the aftermath of this."}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "Why are your mods banning people for"}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:24", "text": "warning the audience about the CCP?"}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "My mods are doing what they believe is"}, {"start": "02:22:24", "end": "02:22:30", "text": "best. My I got my mods I got their back."}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:33", "text": "I know the Iran thing is a big deal, but"}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:36", "text": "I'm curious as to how or if this will"}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "change how we deal with Taiwan invasion"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:41", "text": "sometime in the future. we were. So this"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "is I think the real issue and Trump"}, {"start": "02:22:41", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "didn't talk about this but if you know"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:48", "text": "if we look at the US strategic documents"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "basically"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "you can see this is exactly what they're"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "talking about"}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:59", "text": "uh let me just pull it up US national"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:01", "text": "security strategy."}, {"start": "02:22:59", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "This is exactly what the security"}, {"start": "02:23:01", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "strategy of the United States"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "is talking about. Uh and the national"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "defense strategy."}, {"start": "02:23:16", "end": "02:23:20", "text": "Take a look at these here."}, {"start": "02:23:25", "end": "02:23:33", "text": "got two documents here that I will not"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:35", "text": "force us to sit through, but we can take"}, {"start": "02:23:33", "end": "02:23:39", "text": "a look at this now. So, what you're"}, {"start": "02:23:35", "end": "02:23:40", "text": "looking at here is the 2026 National"}, {"start": "02:23:39", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "Defense St. So, to answer your question"}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:45", "text": "about how will this change and deal with"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:47", "text": "the Taiwan invasion, I think we're"}, {"start": "02:23:45", "end": "02:23:51", "text": "looking at American grand strategy being"}, {"start": "02:23:47", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "put into action. And whether that I'm"}, {"start": "02:23:51", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "not saying that this is a good thing or"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:58", "text": "not a good thing. I'm just saying that"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "this is America's grand strategy is that"}, {"start": "02:23:58", "end": "02:24:03", "text": "their belief is that these actions will"}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:07", "text": "make a Taiwan invasion less likely. If"}, {"start": "02:24:03", "end": "02:24:09", "text": "you weaken your adversaries enough, then"}, {"start": "02:24:07", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "the idea is that it will work as a"}, {"start": "02:24:09", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "deterrent. So, China before what we"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "assessed was the grand the plan for"}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "China was that they were going to"}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "pressure Russia into doing some kind of"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:26", "text": "limited operation against NATO in the"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "border region of Estonia in the Baltics,"}, {"start": "02:24:26", "end": "02:24:36", "text": "Estonia, Latia, Lithuania, and that that"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:39", "text": "would um would force US troops to be"}, {"start": "02:24:36", "end": "02:24:42", "text": "split and go and have to fight in the"}, {"start": "02:24:39", "end": "02:24:44", "text": "European theater. And the idea was also"}, {"start": "02:24:42", "end": "02:24:46", "text": "that Iran would be able to kick up"}, {"start": "02:24:44", "end": "02:24:51", "text": "resistance in the Middle East and split"}, {"start": "02:24:46", "end": "02:24:53", "text": "US forces even further. So I mean I'm"}, {"start": "02:24:51", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "not saying that this is good or bad. I'm"}, {"start": "02:24:53", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "just saying that this is their argument."}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "Iranian here. Do you think if Americans"}, {"start": "02:25:01", "end": "02:25:05", "text": "face casualties it can escalate the"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:08", "text": "extensiveness of the operations"}, {"start": "02:25:05", "end": "02:25:11", "text": "attacking oil infrastructure?"}, {"start": "02:25:08", "end": "02:25:16", "text": "I'd be very surprised if US casualties"}, {"start": "02:25:11", "end": "02:25:19", "text": "meant that it would change their goals."}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:21", "text": "I think they're expecting US casualties."}, {"start": "02:25:19", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "My biggest concern is those aircraft"}, {"start": "02:25:21", "end": "02:25:28", "text": "carriers um to be within range of having"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:33", "text": "heavy sorty rates. basically to be able"}, {"start": "02:25:28", "end": "02:25:37", "text": "to continuously sustain and bomb"}, {"start": "02:25:33", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "um Iran, you have to be close enough to"}, {"start": "02:25:37", "end": "02:25:41", "text": "Iran with those aircraft carriers for"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:43", "text": "that to happen. So"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:44", "text": "that's my concern is that an aircraft"}, {"start": "02:25:43", "end": "02:25:46", "text": "carrier gets hit because then you would"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:49", "text": "see an escalation. If an aircraft"}, {"start": "02:25:46", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "carrier was hit and seriously damaged, I"}, {"start": "02:25:49", "end": "02:25:55", "text": "think we would see major escalation. But"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:58", "text": "short of that, no. So when you look at"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "US grand strategy, they're outlining"}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "how they want Europe to be in control of"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "Europe defense so the US doesn't have to"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "send forces there."}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:15", "text": "And when you look at diplomatic actions"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "in the Middle East, it's all based"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:20", "text": "around trying to get Syria, Saudi"}, {"start": "02:26:18", "end": "02:26:23", "text": "Arabia,"}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:26", "text": "and Israel to cooperate and come"}, {"start": "02:26:23", "end": "02:26:27", "text": "together on an accord that would"}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:32", "text": "basically guarantee the US doesn't have"}, {"start": "02:26:27", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "to send forces there. Um, how successful"}, {"start": "02:26:32", "end": "02:26:37", "text": "this strategy is going to be, I am not"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:39", "text": "certain."}, {"start": "02:26:37", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "potentially if the regime doesn't fall"}, {"start": "02:26:39", "end": "02:26:46", "text": "immediately"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:49", "text": "given that Iran exports oil to China. Is"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:51", "text": "this situation some kind of advantage"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:57", "text": "some kind of advantageous for Russia as"}, {"start": "02:26:51", "end": "02:26:57", "text": "Iran can be seen as a competitor?"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:02", "text": "I think that"}, {"start": "02:27:04", "end": "02:27:11", "text": "it would be advantageous for Russia to"}, {"start": "02:27:07", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "some degree because what that means for"}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "Russia is that they will likely so that"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "the was like 15% of oil that China gets"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:22", "text": "from Iran, they're going to now divert."}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:24", "text": "They've already been doing this over the"}, {"start": "02:27:22", "end": "02:27:28", "text": "past few months. they've been buying"}, {"start": "02:27:24", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "more Russian oil instead. So, this"}, {"start": "02:27:28", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "action against Iran will likely tie"}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:36", "text": "Russia closer to a ch China in the near"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:40", "text": "term is what I'm anticipating. I think"}, {"start": "02:27:36", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "it will be but but there's other there's"}, {"start": "02:27:40", "end": "02:27:45", "text": "other variables to that at the same time"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "that I might not be fully considering"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "that could be worse off for Russia. So,"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "I'm I'm my initial thought is that"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "there's minor"}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:59", "text": "minor benefits for Russia. They must not"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:28:00", "text": "be heard. They must not have heard what"}, {"start": "02:27:59", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "happened to Bin Laden. I've seen"}, {"start": "02:28:00", "end": "02:28:05", "text": "multiple Russian"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:09", "text": "IL planes up in the air. I'm one of the"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:09", "text": "many people."}, {"start": "02:28:11", "end": "02:28:15", "text": "Uh, US bases attack throughout the"}, {"start": "02:28:13", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "Middle East. Is this the most damage the"}, {"start": "02:28:15", "end": "02:28:22", "text": "US has taken in the region yet?"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "It's interesting to me because"}, {"start": "02:28:22", "end": "02:28:27", "text": "we have not seen"}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:29", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:28:27", "end": "02:28:31", "text": "ballistic missile strikes at this scale"}, {"start": "02:28:29", "end": "02:28:34", "text": "likely, although I would say that it's"}, {"start": "02:28:31", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "probably less than the 12-day war."}, {"start": "02:28:34", "end": "02:28:39", "text": "So from the unclassified national"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "defense strategy, it says Iran's leaders"}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:44", "text": "have also left open the possibility that"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:46", "text": "they will try again to obtain a nuclear"}, {"start": "02:28:44", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "weapon, including by refusing to engage"}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:49", "text": "in meaningful negotiations. So the"}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "negotiations that were going on for the"}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "past few weeks were"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:57", "text": "I think a little bit show. I think that"}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:28:59", "text": "they were there just to buy time because"}, {"start": "02:28:57", "end": "02:29:02", "text": "it takes so much time for the US to"}, {"start": "02:28:59", "end": "02:29:05", "text": "logistically move bombs and weapons into"}, {"start": "02:29:02", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "theater. And I think that the talks, we"}, {"start": "02:29:05", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "knew that they weren't going to work"}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "because the talks were maximum pressure."}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:13", "text": "The talks were demanding that Iran give"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "up their nuclear program entirely. And"}, {"start": "02:29:13", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "from Iran's perspective, if you're being"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "told to give up your nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "program, you're not going to say yes for"}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "two reasons. One, because you can't do"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:26", "text": "that publicly and still save face with"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:29", "text": "your population. you can't say you can't"}, {"start": "02:29:26", "end": "02:29:32", "text": "capitulate entirely to the US and still"}, {"start": "02:29:29", "end": "02:29:34", "text": "have any credibility as a regime at that"}, {"start": "02:29:32", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "point."}, {"start": "02:29:34", "end": "02:29:38", "text": "So that's the main reason why that"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "negotiation we always knew was going to"}, {"start": "02:29:38", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "go nowhere. And then also they're"}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "looking at it like the only countries"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:51", "text": "that survive regime change operations by"}, {"start": "02:29:47", "end": "02:29:54", "text": "the United States are ones that"}, {"start": "02:29:51", "end": "02:29:55", "text": "have nuclear weapons. And Ukraine, I"}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:29:56", "text": "think, has learned this. A lot of"}, {"start": "02:29:55", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "countries have learned this is if you"}, {"start": "02:29:56", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "don't have nuclear weapons, you are"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "basically fodder. You are food for"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:08", "text": "nations that do. And that seems to be"}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "what we've been learning recently."}, {"start": "02:30:08", "end": "02:30:13", "text": "What will we do about their current"}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:15", "text": "nuclear sites? Do we have tier one units"}, {"start": "02:30:13", "end": "02:30:18", "text": "secured during this initial phase? There"}, {"start": "02:30:15", "end": "02:30:21", "text": "are specific tier one units that their"}, {"start": "02:30:18", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "entire training is swooping in on"}, {"start": "02:30:21", "end": "02:30:27", "text": "helicopters and destroying nuclear"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:30", "text": "sites. That's what they train to do. Um,"}, {"start": "02:30:27", "end": "02:30:33", "text": "I haven't heard any any chatter about"}, {"start": "02:30:30", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "that happening so far during this"}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:36", "text": "initial phase and I wouldn't anticipate"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:38", "text": "it in the initial phase. I would think"}, {"start": "02:30:36", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "it would happen after things were"}, {"start": "02:30:38", "end": "02:30:42", "text": "cleared on the ground enough. Any severe"}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:43", "text": "damage to an aircraft carrier may prompt"}, {"start": "02:30:42", "end": "02:30:45", "text": "an increased desire to explore and"}, {"start": "02:30:43", "end": "02:30:47", "text": "develop airborne rearming while"}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "refueling."}, {"start": "02:30:47", "end": "02:30:53", "text": "You know what I think? I think we'd see"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:56", "text": "the first major paratrooper drop in"}, {"start": "02:30:53", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "years. I think we'd see the 82nd get"}, {"start": "02:30:56", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "paratrooped over Thrron if they hit an"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "aircraft carrier."}, {"start": "02:31:09", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "This is what the National Defense"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:17", "text": "Strategy unclassified version says about"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:20", "text": "Iran and US strategy."}, {"start": "02:31:17", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "President Trump has consistently made it"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:25", "text": "clear that Iran will not be allowed to"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:26", "text": "acquire nuclear weapons. And with"}, {"start": "02:31:25", "end": "02:31:28", "text": "Operation Midnight Hammer, he showed his"}, {"start": "02:31:26", "end": "02:31:31", "text": "followthrough. No other military in the"}, {"start": "02:31:28", "end": "02:31:34", "text": "world could have Iran's axis of"}, {"start": "02:31:31", "end": "02:31:36", "text": "resistance is similarly devastated."}, {"start": "02:31:34", "end": "02:31:38", "text": "Israeli operations have left Hezbollah"}, {"start": "02:31:36", "end": "02:31:39", "text": "and Hamas severely degraded. At"}, {"start": "02:31:38", "end": "02:31:41", "text": "President Trump's direction, the United"}, {"start": "02:31:39", "end": "02:31:43", "text": "States has also launched Operation Rough"}, {"start": "02:31:41", "end": "02:31:46", "text": "Rider, which degraded the Houthi strike"}, {"start": "02:31:43", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "capabilities. So, this was all shaping"}, {"start": "02:31:46", "end": "02:31:50", "text": "operations. I would argue for the past"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:52", "text": "few months, we've seen shaping"}, {"start": "02:31:50", "end": "02:31:55", "text": "operations against"}, {"start": "02:31:52", "end": "02:31:58", "text": "Iran and the proxy networks. Even so,"}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:31:59", "text": "although is Iran has suffered severe"}, {"start": "02:31:58", "end": "02:32:01", "text": "setbacks over recent months, it appears"}, {"start": "02:31:59", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "intent on reconstituting its"}, {"start": "02:32:01", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "conventional military forces. What"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "they're referring to is satellite"}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:10", "text": "imagery that recently proved that Iran"}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:12", "text": "was"}, {"start": "02:32:10", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "refixing their bases, their missile"}, {"start": "02:32:12", "end": "02:32:18", "text": "bases. They, interestingly enough, we've"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:20", "text": "learned that so"}, {"start": "02:32:18", "end": "02:32:23", "text": "Iran's missile bases were repaired over"}, {"start": "02:32:20", "end": "02:32:26", "text": "the past few weeks. They were fixed up,"}, {"start": "02:32:23", "end": "02:32:30", "text": "but they did not put much they did not"}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:32", "text": "put much stock into putting um to fixing"}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:37", "text": "their nuclear sites. So what we know is"}, {"start": "02:32:32", "end": "02:32:40", "text": "that Iran has not"}, {"start": "02:32:37", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "gone to those nuclear sites for Isfan"}, {"start": "02:32:40", "end": "02:32:45", "text": "and they've not gone there to try to fix"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:47", "text": "those nuclear sites. They've been mainly"}, {"start": "02:32:45", "end": "02:32:51", "text": "empty since the midnight hammer"}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:53", "text": "operation. So it's just interesting to"}, {"start": "02:32:51", "end": "02:32:54", "text": "show their priorities that they had"}, {"start": "02:32:53", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "given up on those nuclear facil at least"}, {"start": "02:32:54", "end": "02:32:58", "text": "that's what the satellite imagery that I"}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:33:01", "text": "saw showed. So we go on. Iran's leaders"}, {"start": "02:32:58", "end": "02:33:03", "text": "have also left open the possibility that"}, {"start": "02:33:01", "end": "02:33:06", "text": "they will try again to obtain a nuclear"}, {"start": "02:33:03", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "weapon. So leaving more quesus belly for"}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:10", "text": "attack. Moreover, although Iran's"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:12", "text": "proxies have been severely degraded,"}, {"start": "02:33:10", "end": "02:33:14", "text": "they may also seek to rebuild devastated"}, {"start": "02:33:12", "end": "02:33:16", "text": "infrastructure and capabilities. Nor can"}, {"start": "02:33:14", "end": "02:33:18", "text": "we ignore the facts that the Iranian"}, {"start": "02:33:16", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "regime has had the blood on Americans"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:24", "text": "hands. Yet with"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:26", "text": "remains intent on destroying our close"}, {"start": "02:33:24", "end": "02:33:28", "text": "ally Israel and that Iran and its"}, {"start": "02:33:26", "end": "02:33:30", "text": "proxies routinely instigate regional"}, {"start": "02:33:28", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "crisis that not only threaten the lives"}, {"start": "02:33:30", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "of American service members in the"}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:34", "text": "region but also prevent the region"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:36", "text": "itself from pursuing the kind of"}, {"start": "02:33:34", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "peaceful and prosperous future that so"}, {"start": "02:33:36", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "many of its leaders and peoples clearly"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:45", "text": "wish for. The argument guys wait fellas"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:49", "text": "am Am I"}, {"start": "02:33:45", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "Am I wrong here? Or"}, {"start": "02:33:49", "end": "02:33:56", "text": "were the neocons correct?"}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:56", "text": "Were the neocons right all along?"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:01", "text": "Is Is this just the Is this just Is Dick"}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:03", "text": "Cheney"}, {"start": "02:34:01", "end": "02:34:05", "text": "not rolling in his grave, but like super"}, {"start": "02:34:03", "end": "02:34:08", "text": "stoked in his grave right now? Is Dick"}, {"start": "02:34:05", "end": "02:34:10", "text": "Cheney looking up at this, looking down"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:12", "text": "at this? But is Dick Cheney super happy"}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:14", "text": "that this is all coming together? That"}, {"start": "02:34:12", "end": "02:34:16", "text": "Syria,"}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "Iran,"}, {"start": "02:34:16", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "Venezuela are all"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "falling."}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "Were the neocons correct, but just for"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "the the wrong reasons?"}, {"start": "02:34:28", "end": "02:34:34", "text": "Was my operation"}, {"start": "02:34:31", "end": "02:34:37", "text": "was my involvement in Iraq actually"}, {"start": "02:34:34", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "useful?"}, {"start": "02:34:37", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "Do I not have to feel bad about"}, {"start": "02:34:44", "end": "02:34:48", "text": "um I'm of course being very totally"}, {"start": "02:34:46", "end": "02:34:51", "text": "serious about and zero tongue and cheek"}, {"start": "02:34:48", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "with that."}, {"start": "02:34:51", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "So this is the vision of the of the"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "neocons. They wanted to uh they wanted"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "to see this is what they always"}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:05", "text": "envisioned after the Iraq war was that"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "it would all topple down. But instead,"}, {"start": "02:35:05", "end": "02:35:08", "text": "it's funny because instead of seeing"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:11", "text": "democracies everywhere, instead we're"}, {"start": "02:35:08", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "just seeing regimes pop up that are US"}, {"start": "02:35:11", "end": "02:35:15", "text": "positive. So it's like we don't care if"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:17", "text": "you're dem democratic anymore. The"}, {"start": "02:35:15", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "whole, you know, let's spread democracy"}, {"start": "02:35:17", "end": "02:35:21", "text": "thing in the Middle East is silly, but"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "let's spread dictatorships that agree"}, {"start": "02:35:21", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "with America. If we can't if we can't"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "spread democracy, let's spread America"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:30", "text": "at the very least."}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:33", "text": "Uh Dick Cheney thoughts about US economy"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "impact given 10% loss in USD value in"}, {"start": "02:35:33", "end": "02:35:39", "text": "past year and possibly I don't know"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:41", "text": "brother I'm not a economic guy. The"}, {"start": "02:35:39", "end": "02:35:43", "text": "neocons helped to fabricate these type"}, {"start": "02:35:41", "end": "02:35:46", "text": "of circumstances first with WMDs then"}, {"start": "02:35:43", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "swiftly changed to democratic world"}, {"start": "02:35:46", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "order."}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:55", "text": "completely unrelated are these quad nods"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:57", "text": "in the back. They are not real. No,"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "they're not. I don't I did not buy real"}, {"start": "02:35:57", "end": "02:36:02", "text": "quad nods. Those are airsoft for show. I"}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:05", "text": "probably shouldn't have given away the"}, {"start": "02:36:02", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "mystique, but that's the honest truth."}, {"start": "02:36:05", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "Do you think,"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "boys,"}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "do you think we will have troops on the"}, {"start": "02:36:13", "end": "02:36:17", "text": "ground there anytime soon? No, I don't."}, {"start": "02:36:15", "end": "02:36:20", "text": "I don't. I I could be totally wrong"}, {"start": "02:36:17", "end": "02:36:22", "text": "though. I've been wrong in the past. Um"}, {"start": "02:36:20", "end": "02:36:24", "text": "I bet you as I say no, we won't have"}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "troops on the ground, it's probably"}, {"start": "02:36:24", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "exactly what will happen next is that"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:31", "text": "we'll see some kind of crazy airdrop"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:32", "text": "over Iran. Uh the reason I don't think"}, {"start": "02:36:31", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "it'll happen though is because what we"}, {"start": "02:36:32", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "were going over earlier, which is that"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:40", "text": "there are no ground routes into Thrron."}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "It would have to be an amphibious"}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:44", "text": "invasion. It would have to be some kind"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "of amphibious invasion. And I haven't"}, {"start": "02:36:44", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "looked at the newest"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "troop strength um"}, {"start": "02:36:53", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "build up, but I didn't see a bunch of"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:36:59", "text": "like amphibious lightning carriers in"}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:37:03", "text": "the region."}, {"start": "02:36:59", "end": "02:37:05", "text": "Um there are really good"}, {"start": "02:37:03", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "maps that have been put together showing"}, {"start": "02:37:05", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "US force structure in the region. So,"}, {"start": "02:37:12", "end": "02:37:17", "text": "we can take a look at that if I'm able"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "to pull it up. But basically, it shows"}, {"start": "02:37:17", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "everything that the US has there. And"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "one of the things they don't have is a a"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:28", "text": "large troop presence. As far as I'm"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:33", "text": "aware, they have an unholy ungodly"}, {"start": "02:37:28", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "amount of um here's some of force of air"}, {"start": "02:37:33", "end": "02:37:39", "text": "power, but not as I know it, you know,"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:41", "text": "grab boots on the ground capabilities or"}, {"start": "02:37:39", "end": "02:37:43", "text": "even places that they could launch that"}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:45", "text": "from. So, here's the Osen defenders"}, {"start": "02:37:43", "end": "02:37:48", "text": "quick rundown to catch everybody up on"}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:50", "text": "what's happening. Friend of the show,"}, {"start": "02:37:48", "end": "02:37:52", "text": "follow him. Give him a follow on"}, {"start": "02:37:50", "end": "02:37:54", "text": "Twitter. Joint USIsraeli operation."}, {"start": "02:37:52", "end": "02:37:56", "text": "Trump called for regime change. Opening"}, {"start": "02:37:54", "end": "02:37:58", "text": "waves of strikes have been characterized"}, {"start": "02:37:56", "end": "02:38:00", "text": "as assassination strikes, confirming"}, {"start": "02:37:58", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "early reports of decapitation attacks."}, {"start": "02:38:00", "end": "02:38:05", "text": "Officials have said that this will be a"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:09", "text": "multi-day campaign. Israel to focus on"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:13", "text": "military targets, launchers, etc.,"}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "excuse me, while US remit is to target"}, {"start": "02:38:13", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "decision makers, large surface"}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "combatants, hardened bunkers,"}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:23", "text": "30 to 70 ballistic missiles fired from"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:25", "text": "Iran into Israel. air defense working at"}, {"start": "02:38:23", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "the time of writing. No confirmed deaths"}, {"start": "02:38:25", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "or casualties among principal or senior"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:31", "text": "Iranian dis that has changed uh in the"}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:33", "text": "last 5 hours though there have been some"}, {"start": "02:38:31", "end": "02:38:35", "text": "reported deaths. Reports from state"}, {"start": "02:38:33", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "media and western media outlets citing"}, {"start": "02:38:35", "end": "02:38:39", "text": "sources close to the matter say that"}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:42", "text": "both the Iranian president and supreme"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:44", "text": "leader are remain alive as of 5 hours"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:49", "text": "ago. So,"}, {"start": "02:38:44", "end": "02:38:51", "text": "if we continue on here, we see that for"}, {"start": "02:38:49", "end": "02:38:53", "text": "the IDF, Israeli forces, a short while"}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:57", "text": "ago, the IDF identified missiles"}, {"start": "02:38:53", "end": "02:38:59", "text": "launched from Iran toward Israel. And"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:02", "text": "we're going to take a look at what type"}, {"start": "02:38:59", "end": "02:39:05", "text": "of power as Iran implements an"}, {"start": "02:39:02", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "indefinite no-fly zone, closing the"}, {"start": "02:39:05", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "entirety of their airspace. Uh, we see"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "Mig 29s have been spotted up over"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:14", "text": "Tyrron. So that's actually surprising to"}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:16", "text": "me. I'm surprised that they scrambled"}, {"start": "02:39:14", "end": "02:39:17", "text": "their jets, but it seems like their air"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:20", "text": "power is in the sky, which we didn't see"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "last time. If that's true, it's unusual"}, {"start": "02:39:20", "end": "02:39:25", "text": "to see. And here's some more images of"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:28", "text": "the attacks in Iran. We're taking a look"}, {"start": "02:39:25", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "at what we're seeing here. Giant clouds"}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:34", "text": "of smoke coming up over Tyrron."}, {"start": "02:39:32", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "And what Fox News is now saying is"}, {"start": "02:39:34", "end": "02:39:37", "text": "sources tell them that Iran supreme"}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:40", "text": "leader has been moved out of Tyrron to a"}, {"start": "02:39:37", "end": "02:39:41", "text": "secure location. So he's going to want"}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:43", "text": "to prove that he's still in Iran because"}, {"start": "02:39:41", "end": "02:39:47", "text": "one of the things that is like sort of a"}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "threshold for when"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:52", "text": "a place like Afghanistan was toppled by"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "the Taliban for instance was you saw the"}, {"start": "02:39:52", "end": "02:39:56", "text": "leader left the country. So if we see"}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:39:58", "text": "the leader leave the country, try to go"}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:02", "text": "to Russia for safety, that's one of the"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:04", "text": "things that is a you know uh in Ukraine,"}, {"start": "02:40:02", "end": "02:40:05", "text": "Zalinsky didn't leave the country and"}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:08", "text": "it's one of the reasons, one of those"}, {"start": "02:40:05", "end": "02:40:10", "text": "intangibles I believe that is why"}, {"start": "02:40:08", "end": "02:40:11", "text": "Ukraine didn't fall right away. If he"}, {"start": "02:40:10", "end": "02:40:13", "text": "had left, I think it would have been"}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "more likely that it would have fallen"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "right away. So here's some more video"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "footage of the strikes in Iran."}, {"start": "02:40:21", "end": "02:40:28", "text": "What do you think of the greater powers"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:31", "text": "do as they will might makes mother and"}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "right? How high is the risk for a"}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:37", "text": "domestic attack from sleeper cells? Iran"}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "has over the years tried to do domestic"}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:42", "text": "assassinations inside the United States"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:44", "text": "and so far they haven't had success with"}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:45", "text": "any kind of domestic sleeper cells. I"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "know they've tried to run operations out"}, {"start": "02:40:45", "end": "02:40:52", "text": "of Mexico for instance. uh they've tried"}, {"start": "02:40:48", "end": "02:40:54", "text": "to assassinate leaders in including"}, {"start": "02:40:52", "end": "02:40:57", "text": "Trump inside the United States. They"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:40:59", "text": "haven't had success. So, is it possible?"}, {"start": "02:40:57", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "Yes, it's definitely more likely right"}, {"start": "02:40:59", "end": "02:41:06", "text": "now, but we do not know for certain. I"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:07", "text": "think it would be unlikely. I think that"}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "right now what you're seeing is inside"}, {"start": "02:41:07", "end": "02:41:10", "text": "the United States, like if you're in New"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:13", "text": "York City, I'm guessing there's probably"}, {"start": "02:41:10", "end": "02:41:17", "text": "heightened security patrols, heightened"}, {"start": "02:41:13", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "police presence going on because of just"}, {"start": "02:41:17", "end": "02:41:20", "text": "exactly the risk that you just outlined."}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "02:41:20", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "uh, here we go."}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "Complete."}, {"start": "02:41:27", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "No, the neocons's okay."}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "the Ayatollah is about to be Assad's new"}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "roommate. That's so that's the big"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:42", "text": "question is does the Ayatollah try to"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "flee the country? Um, but I'm trying to"}, {"start": "02:41:42", "end": "02:41:48", "text": "pull up right now for you. I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:51", "text": "bring you the full picture of the"}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:52", "text": "operational capabilities that the United"}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:55", "text": "States Here it is. Here it is. We got"}, {"start": "02:41:52", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "it. Um, I can stop trying to buy time."}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:42:00", "text": "the this right here, what you're looking"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:04", "text": "at is"}, {"start": "02:42:00", "end": "02:42:07", "text": "um the US force posture in the region."}, {"start": "02:42:04", "end": "02:42:11", "text": "So you see here all of these sh"}, {"start": "02:42:07", "end": "02:42:14", "text": "warships, the two carrier strike groups,"}, {"start": "02:42:11", "end": "02:42:17", "text": "all of these uh submarines and naval"}, {"start": "02:42:14", "end": "02:42:20", "text": "assets and destroyers are almost all the"}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "all of them are focused on Tomahawk"}, {"start": "02:42:20", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "cruise missiles. Each one of the these I"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:25", "text": "don't know if you could see my cursor"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:28", "text": "but down here at the bottom each one of"}, {"start": "02:42:25", "end": "02:42:30", "text": "these are a tomahawk missile in their"}, {"start": "02:42:28", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "magazine in their inventory. So what"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "that means is the US has prioritized"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "strike offensive strike capabilities as"}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:42", "text": "opposed to bringing in a bunch of"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:44", "text": "landing ships into the region. They"}, {"start": "02:42:42", "end": "02:42:47", "text": "they're not bringing in a bunch of you"}, {"start": "02:42:44", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "know ships that can send in amphibious"}, {"start": "02:42:47", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "forces that can launch helicopters. It's"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:55", "text": "not the same force structure that we saw"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:58", "text": "in the Caribbean, for instance, where a"}, {"start": "02:42:55", "end": "02:43:00", "text": "lot of those ships were designed for a"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:03", "text": "land attack. This is just my read on it."}, {"start": "02:43:00", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "I could 100% be wrong in misreading"}, {"start": "02:43:03", "end": "02:43:08", "text": "these capabilities, but it seems like"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:10", "text": "this is heavily air and strike"}, {"start": "02:43:08", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "capabilities. And there's also some"}, {"start": "02:43:10", "end": "02:43:16", "text": "logistics uh vehicles in here. But what"}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:18", "text": "I don't see is"}, {"start": "02:43:16", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "landing amphibious"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:24", "text": "warships or you know that type of"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "capability. So I think ground attack is"}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "less less likely. But you see just each"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:34", "text": "of these aircraft has tremendous amount"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:35", "text": "of bombing capabilities and that's what"}, {"start": "02:43:34", "end": "02:43:38", "text": "they're trying to prioritize here. You"}, {"start": "02:43:35", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "could see if I could maybe zoom in. No."}, {"start": "02:43:38", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:47", "text": "so"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "there we go."}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:55", "text": "That's a lot of tomahawks, boys. That's"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:55", "text": "a lot of strike capabilities."}, {"start": "02:43:57", "end": "02:44:02", "text": "By the way, this was created by Ian"}, {"start": "02:43:59", "end": "02:44:04", "text": "Ellis Jones on X. If you want to follow"}, {"start": "02:44:02", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "him, I follow him for creation. anytime"}, {"start": "02:44:04", "end": "02:44:10", "text": "there's a military buildup somewhere, he"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:12", "text": "is on the ball. He's got a graphic like"}, {"start": "02:44:10", "end": "02:44:15", "text": "this that shows you exactly the assets"}, {"start": "02:44:12", "end": "02:44:17", "text": "in country. So that was one of the"}, {"start": "02:44:15", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "reasons why people were so sure this was"}, {"start": "02:44:17", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "going to happen was because look at the"}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "visual of just the capabilities."}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:26", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:30", "text": "what we're"}, {"start": "02:44:26", "end": "02:44:32", "text": "seeing here right now, I mean, ballistic"}, {"start": "02:44:30", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "missile submarines, destroyers, and"}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:36", "text": "these can all hit land targets. Each one"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:38", "text": "of these tomahawks are aiming at, and"}, {"start": "02:44:36", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "what was built is an airtasking order"}, {"start": "02:44:38", "end": "02:44:43", "text": "and a campaign order that each of these"}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:47", "text": "tomahawks were assigned to a location."}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:49", "text": "And that location was built off of"}, {"start": "02:44:47", "end": "02:44:52", "text": "information like this where they outline"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:56", "text": "exactly where the regime repression"}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "capabilities are located. So each of"}, {"start": "02:44:56", "end": "02:45:01", "text": "those tomahawks were married to a"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:04", "text": "target. And"}, {"start": "02:45:01", "end": "02:45:04", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:08", "text": "so"}, {"start": "02:45:10", "end": "02:45:14", "text": "this is what's been put into theater. A"}, {"start": "02:45:11", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "lot of F-22s, a lot of F-35s were"}, {"start": "02:45:14", "end": "02:45:20", "text": "brought. CNN reporting now that tankers"}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:22", "text": "are not entering the straight of Hermuz"}, {"start": "02:45:20", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "02:45:22", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "So that is likely because they're just"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:29", "text": "assessing that the risk is too much. It"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:31", "text": "doesn't seem like Iran really needs to"}, {"start": "02:45:29", "end": "02:45:34", "text": "even shut off the straighter horm moves"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "because that is done by people just"}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "saying I'm not going to touch that."}, {"start": "02:45:40", "end": "02:45:45", "text": "But F-22s are in the air for air"}, {"start": "02:45:42", "end": "02:45:48", "text": "supremacy. They're there to intercept"}, {"start": "02:45:45", "end": "02:45:52", "text": "any incoming missiles in midair and"}, {"start": "02:45:48", "end": "02:45:55", "text": "drones. And the F-35s are there to"}, {"start": "02:45:52", "end": "02:45:57", "text": "actually strike targets inside of Iran."}, {"start": "02:45:55", "end": "02:46:01", "text": "And we know that the air defense is weak"}, {"start": "02:45:57", "end": "02:46:04", "text": "inside of Iran. So that's why Iran's"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "whole game plan here, their whole"}, {"start": "02:46:04", "end": "02:46:10", "text": "mission is to just not fall. is for the"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "Islamic Republic to not all. That's all"}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "they have to do. Um,"}, {"start": "02:46:15", "end": "02:46:19", "text": "see here,"}, {"start": "02:46:22", "end": "02:46:27", "text": "here's Preston Stewart saying that new"}, {"start": "02:46:25", "end": "02:46:31", "text": "footage appears to show an Iranian"}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:33", "text": "Shahed style drone impacting inside the"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:35", "text": "US base in Bahrain. Look at that. And it"}, {"start": "02:46:33", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "looks like, correct me if I'm wrong"}, {"start": "02:46:35", "end": "02:46:41", "text": "chat, but it looks like they hit a radar"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:43", "text": "station there with it directly. Uh, Iran"}, {"start": "02:46:41", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "seems to have hit. Let's make this big"}, {"start": "02:46:43", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "and give us some sound here."}, {"start": "02:46:55", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "up."}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:05", "text": "That's a direct hit"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:05", "text": "with a Shahed drone that got through."}, {"start": "02:47:05", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "And this is Dubai right now."}, {"start": "02:47:10", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "Is the belief Dubai appears to have been"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "hit with missile."}, {"start": "02:47:18", "end": "02:47:23", "text": "Here's some of the aftermath. Yeah, he"}, {"start": "02:47:20", "end": "02:47:26", "text": "seems to have hit a radar dome at the US"}, {"start": "02:47:23", "end": "02:47:30", "text": "Navy's naval support activity in Bayon"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:30", "text": "in uh Bahrain."}, {"start": "02:47:32", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "A direct impact. And here we have uh"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:40", "text": "someone did the did us the solid of"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:43", "text": "bringing up"}, {"start": "02:47:40", "end": "02:47:45", "text": "footage here or satellite image of this."}, {"start": "02:47:43", "end": "02:47:48", "text": "The same thing happened in the 12-day"}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "war."}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:52", "text": "Just people didn't hear about it until"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:52", "text": "days later."}, {"start": "02:47:56", "end": "02:48:01", "text": "US Reaper in the air here."}, {"start": "02:48:04", "end": "02:48:09", "text": "Angry Cops is reporting from Northern"}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:11", "text": "Provisions that Iran appears to have hit"}, {"start": "02:48:09", "end": "02:48:14", "text": "a boat in some capacity, maybe with one"}, {"start": "02:48:11", "end": "02:48:16", "text": "of those shahads."}, {"start": "02:48:14", "end": "02:48:18", "text": "And"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:20", "text": "as we were talking about earlier, you"}, {"start": "02:48:18", "end": "02:48:24", "text": "don't mess with the United States oil"}, {"start": "02:48:20", "end": "02:48:27", "text": "and you don't mess with their boats."}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:30", "text": "War is fabricated by pizzeras to sell"}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "more pizza. It's big pizza. Big pizza is"}, {"start": "02:48:30", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "the reason we have wars."}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:41", "text": "What does the radar dome collapsing in"}, {"start": "02:48:39", "end": "02:48:43", "text": "Bahrain from a shahad strike slowf"}, {"start": "02:48:41", "end": "02:48:45", "text": "flying say about the defensive"}, {"start": "02:48:43", "end": "02:48:47", "text": "interceptor supply?"}, {"start": "02:48:45", "end": "02:48:50", "text": "I'm surprised that a sea whiz wasn't put"}, {"start": "02:48:47", "end": "02:48:52", "text": "near a radar if it's an important radar"}, {"start": "02:48:50", "end": "02:48:53", "text": "to hit something like that because a"}, {"start": "02:48:52", "end": "02:48:56", "text": "missile would probably be overkill for a"}, {"start": "02:48:53", "end": "02:48:59", "text": "cheap shahad drone which costs like 400"}, {"start": "02:48:56", "end": "02:49:02", "text": "bucks or a,000 bucks. So what it says"}, {"start": "02:48:59", "end": "02:49:05", "text": "though is that intercept air defense is"}, {"start": "02:49:02", "end": "02:49:08", "text": "extremely hard and inter intercepting"}, {"start": "02:49:05", "end": "02:49:11", "text": "incoming missiles is sort of a losing"}, {"start": "02:49:08", "end": "02:49:13", "text": "proposition because they will always"}, {"start": "02:49:11", "end": "02:49:15", "text": "have more volume. It's more difficult to"}, {"start": "02:49:13", "end": "02:49:18", "text": "defend than it is to attack. So, I think"}, {"start": "02:49:15", "end": "02:49:20", "text": "that it speaks to how difficult air"}, {"start": "02:49:18", "end": "02:49:22", "text": "defense is and especially intercepting"}, {"start": "02:49:20", "end": "02:49:25", "text": "is. So, you know, cuz they might have"}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "intercepted a dozen other munitions, but"}, {"start": "02:49:25", "end": "02:49:31", "text": "all it takes is one munition to get"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:34", "text": "through and you're screwed."}, {"start": "02:49:31", "end": "02:49:34", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:39", "text": "that's the report is that one boat was"}, {"start": "02:49:37", "end": "02:49:43", "text": "hit. We're seeing here an intercepted"}, {"start": "02:49:39", "end": "02:49:46", "text": "Iranian ballistic missile. Whoa,"}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:46", "text": "that's crazy."}, {"start": "02:49:46", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "That right there is a ballistic missile"}, {"start": "02:49:48", "end": "02:49:55", "text": "falling out of the sky."}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "Looks like it was knocked off course."}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:50:00", "text": "Jeez. You know, let's assume that this"}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:06", "text": "is real and not AI generated because as"}, {"start": "02:50:00", "end": "02:50:06", "text": "an unk, I am not certain."}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:18", "text": "This is the Supreme Leader compound that"}, {"start": "02:50:17", "end": "02:50:21", "text": "was hit that we were talking about"}, {"start": "02:50:18", "end": "02:50:22", "text": "earlier."}, {"start": "02:50:21", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "That's what's that's what it looks like"}, {"start": "02:50:22", "end": "02:50:28", "text": "over Tyrron right now."}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:28", "text": "direct hit"}, {"start": "02:50:29", "end": "02:50:33", "text": "on the Supreme Leader compound."}, {"start": "02:50:35", "end": "02:50:41", "text": "This what you're looking at right now"}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:44", "text": "here is video footage of Iranian regime"}, {"start": "02:50:41", "end": "02:50:45", "text": "surfacetosurface missile unit as they"}, {"start": "02:50:44", "end": "02:50:47", "text": "loaded a missile launcher and prepared"}, {"start": "02:50:45", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "to immediately launch towards Israel."}, {"start": "02:50:47", "end": "02:50:52", "text": "And this was what happened in the 12-day"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:54", "text": "war as well is they target those"}, {"start": "02:50:52", "end": "02:50:57", "text": "ballistic missile launchers because just"}, {"start": "02:50:54", "end": "02:51:00", "text": "because Iran has 1,500 2,000 ballistic"}, {"start": "02:50:57", "end": "02:51:02", "text": "missiles right now, they only have 100"}, {"start": "02:51:00", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "of the mobile missile launchers to fire"}, {"start": "02:51:02", "end": "02:51:06", "text": "them from and it takes time to reload"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "them. So you're talking about they can"}, {"start": "02:51:06", "end": "02:51:11", "text": "do a volley of 100 and then they have to"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:12", "text": "hide them. Then they have to refuel"}, {"start": "02:51:11", "end": "02:51:14", "text": "them. uh the missiles that they put on"}, {"start": "02:51:12", "end": "02:51:15", "text": "them, they have to load those missiles"}, {"start": "02:51:14", "end": "02:51:17", "text": "up into those launchers that you're"}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:19", "text": "looking at right here. So, it all takes"}, {"start": "02:51:17", "end": "02:51:23", "text": "time. They can only launch a certain"}, {"start": "02:51:19", "end": "02:51:25", "text": "amount at a time. And here you're seeing"}, {"start": "02:51:23", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "the IRGC"}, {"start": "02:51:25", "end": "02:51:28", "text": "aerospace had no time to deploy its"}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:31", "text": "ballistic missiles to separate launch"}, {"start": "02:51:28", "end": "02:51:34", "text": "sites and instead launch them directly"}, {"start": "02:51:31", "end": "02:51:35", "text": "from the missile base toward targets in"}, {"start": "02:51:34", "end": "02:51:37", "text": "Israel. All missiles that were launched"}, {"start": "02:51:35", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "were intercepted. According to this is"}, {"start": "02:51:37", "end": "02:51:41", "text": "what they say that these were"}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:44", "text": "intercepted. I don't know how accurate"}, {"start": "02:51:41", "end": "02:51:47", "text": "that is, but this is one of the launch"}, {"start": "02:51:44", "end": "02:51:47", "text": "sites."}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:55", "text": "And this is an American sailor records"}, {"start": "02:51:53", "end": "02:51:58", "text": "the Iranian strike in Bahrain, it looks"}, {"start": "02:51:55", "end": "02:51:58", "text": "like."}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:03", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:12", "text": "in Qatar. A ballistic missile falling"}, {"start": "02:52:10", "end": "02:52:16", "text": "out of the sky."}, {"start": "02:52:12", "end": "02:52:16", "text": "Yeah, this is what we saw earlier."}, {"start": "02:52:17", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "02:52:17", "end": "02:52:22", "text": "good thing the cameraman never dies cuz"}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:22", "text": "I would be running from that."}, {"start": "02:52:23", "end": "02:52:27", "text": "Look at other"}, {"start": "02:52:35", "end": "02:52:40", "text": "Bahrain strike reported near US fifth"}, {"start": "02:52:37", "end": "02:52:42", "text": "fleet headquarters. UAE intercepts"}, {"start": "02:52:40", "end": "02:52:45", "text": "confirmed. One civilian KIA. Qatar"}, {"start": "02:52:42", "end": "02:52:47", "text": "missile intercepted. No damage."}, {"start": "02:52:45", "end": "02:52:49", "text": "And"}, {"start": "02:52:47", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "none of these states attacked Iran. Some"}, {"start": "02:52:49", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "are neutral."}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:54", "text": "Iran"}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "just fired at five countries"}, {"start": "02:52:54", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "simultaneously is the word."}, {"start": "02:53:01", "end": "02:53:05", "text": "You think we'll declare war or just send"}, {"start": "02:53:04", "end": "02:53:09", "text": "it? Seems like right now we're just"}, {"start": "02:53:05", "end": "02:53:09", "text": "going full send."}, {"start": "02:53:11", "end": "02:53:17", "text": "Yeah. Show the video of the sailor in"}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:17", "text": "his apartment in Bahrain."}, {"start": "02:53:20", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "How broad in scope do you think shaping"}, {"start": "02:53:22", "end": "02:53:28", "text": "ops have been in anticipation of this"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "FAA space debris warning NASA medical"}, {"start": "02:53:28", "end": "02:53:33", "text": "emergency evacuation providing intel on"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:34", "text": "whereabouts of Elenro related. So this"}, {"start": "02:53:33", "end": "02:53:35", "text": "is what we were talking about before"}, {"start": "02:53:34", "end": "02:53:38", "text": "when we were talking about grand"}, {"start": "02:53:35", "end": "02:53:40", "text": "strategy. I do think that the Elro I"}, {"start": "02:53:38", "end": "02:53:41", "text": "mean when you move against your"}, {"start": "02:53:40", "end": "02:53:43", "text": "adversaries you got to move quickly and"}, {"start": "02:53:41", "end": "02:53:45", "text": "not give them time to react. You got to"}, {"start": "02:53:43", "end": "02:53:47", "text": "create multiple dilemmas at the same"}, {"start": "02:53:45", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "time. I think the operation to take out"}, {"start": "02:53:47", "end": "02:53:51", "text": "Elmeno is related to this for sure"}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:54", "text": "because what we're putting in a row,"}, {"start": "02:53:51", "end": "02:53:56", "text": "we're putting our ducks in a row for the"}, {"start": "02:53:54", "end": "02:53:58", "text": "American supply chain needs to be locked"}, {"start": "02:53:56", "end": "02:54:02", "text": "down. You can't have what is essentially"}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:06", "text": "a proxy force, a a analogous to"}, {"start": "02:54:02", "end": "02:54:07", "text": "Hezbollah on our border that is knocking"}, {"start": "02:54:06", "end": "02:54:10", "text": "down"}, {"start": "02:54:07", "end": "02:54:13", "text": "u that is taking a 15% cut of everything"}, {"start": "02:54:10", "end": "02:54:16", "text": "that goes into Mexico. And when you look"}, {"start": "02:54:13", "end": "02:54:18", "text": "at foreign investments in a country, you"}, {"start": "02:54:16", "end": "02:54:20", "text": "don't see strong foreign investment and"}, {"start": "02:54:18", "end": "02:54:23", "text": "confidence in a country if there's this"}, {"start": "02:54:20", "end": "02:54:26", "text": "criminal organization that's running it."}, {"start": "02:54:23", "end": "02:54:29", "text": "So the operation against Elmeno was to"}, {"start": "02:54:26", "end": "02:54:31", "text": "prevent was to help there be more"}, {"start": "02:54:29", "end": "02:54:35", "text": "foreign investment in Mexico so that"}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:37", "text": "Mexico can help take over a lot of the"}, {"start": "02:54:35", "end": "02:54:40", "text": "production that we were depending on"}, {"start": "02:54:37", "end": "02:54:42", "text": "China for. So yeah, I think that those"}, {"start": "02:54:40", "end": "02:54:44", "text": "are connected. how the shaping"}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:46", "text": "operations have been broad. We know that"}, {"start": "02:54:44", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "for a fact. We know that the Wall Street"}, {"start": "02:54:46", "end": "02:54:51", "text": "Journal"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:54", "text": "um I got to log in to the Wall Street"}, {"start": "02:54:51", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "Journal. The Wall Street Journal"}, {"start": "02:54:54", "end": "02:55:03", "text": "has been um reporting about this and"}, {"start": "02:54:58", "end": "02:55:07", "text": "we've been tracking this for a while now"}, {"start": "02:55:03", "end": "02:55:10", "text": "is that the US smuggled in this is a"}, {"start": "02:55:07", "end": "02:55:12", "text": "very important article here."}, {"start": "02:55:10", "end": "02:55:14", "text": "The US smuggled thousands of Starlink"}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:16", "text": "terminals into Iran after protest"}, {"start": "02:55:14", "end": "02:55:18", "text": "crackdown."}, {"start": "02:55:16", "end": "02:55:20", "text": "The Trump administration covertly sent"}, {"start": "02:55:18", "end": "02:55:22", "text": "thousands of Starlink terminals into"}, {"start": "02:55:20", "end": "02:55:23", "text": "Iran after the regime's brutal crackdown"}, {"start": "02:55:22", "end": "02:55:25", "text": "on demonstrations last month. US"}, {"start": "02:55:23", "end": "02:55:27", "text": "officials said an effort to keep"}, {"start": "02:55:25", "end": "02:55:31", "text": "dissident online following Thyron's"}, {"start": "02:55:27", "end": "02:55:33", "text": "stifling of internet access. So, I mean,"}, {"start": "02:55:31", "end": "02:55:36", "text": "do you think Elon Musk on his own shut"}, {"start": "02:55:33", "end": "02:55:40", "text": "down Starlink terminals to Russia and"}, {"start": "02:55:36", "end": "02:55:41", "text": "helped Russia, helped Ukraine? Do you"}, {"start": "02:55:40", "end": "02:55:44", "text": "think Elon Musk made that decision on"}, {"start": "02:55:41", "end": "02:55:46", "text": "his own? I don't. I think that the US"}, {"start": "02:55:44", "end": "02:55:48", "text": "government went to Elon Musk and said,"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:50", "text": "\"You need to shut down Starling"}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:54", "text": "terminals for the Russians.\" I think"}, {"start": "02:55:50", "end": "02:55:55", "text": "that the US is putting maximum pressure"}, {"start": "02:55:54", "end": "02:55:58", "text": "on"}, {"start": "02:55:55", "end": "02:56:01", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:55:58", "end": "02:56:03", "text": "on Russia right now and our adversaries."}, {"start": "02:56:01", "end": "02:56:05", "text": "And so the State Department had"}, {"start": "02:56:03", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "purchased nearly 7,000 Starling"}, {"start": "02:56:05", "end": "02:56:09", "text": "terminals in earlier months with most"}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:11", "text": "bought in January"}, {"start": "02:56:09", "end": "02:56:15", "text": "to help anti-regime activists circumvent"}, {"start": "02:56:11", "end": "02:56:17", "text": "internet shut offs. So the purchases uh"}, {"start": "02:56:15", "end": "02:56:19", "text": "tyrron has reportedly accused Washington"}, {"start": "02:56:17", "end": "02:56:21", "text": "of playing a role in fermenting popular"}, {"start": "02:56:19", "end": "02:56:22", "text": "disscent and organizing last month's"}, {"start": "02:56:21", "end": "02:56:24", "text": "nationwide demonstrations in the country"}, {"start": "02:56:22", "end": "02:56:26", "text": "of 90 million people. Iranians were"}, {"start": "02:56:24", "end": "02:56:28", "text": "protesting years of economic"}, {"start": "02:56:26", "end": "02:56:30", "text": "mismanagement and weakened currency and"}, {"start": "02:56:28", "end": "02:56:32", "text": "hardline rule. The US has denied any"}, {"start": "02:56:30", "end": "02:56:33", "text": "connection to the uprising though the"}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:35", "text": "Starlink operation shows the Trump"}, {"start": "02:56:33", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "administration has done more to support"}, {"start": "02:56:35", "end": "02:56:39", "text": "anti-regime efforts than has been"}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:41", "text": "previously known. The White House"}, {"start": "02:56:39", "end": "02:56:43", "text": "declined comment. As protests swept"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:45", "text": "Iran, Trump encouraged Iranians to"}, {"start": "02:56:43", "end": "02:56:47", "text": "continue demonstrating, saying help is"}, {"start": "02:56:45", "end": "02:56:49", "text": "on the way. Owning one of Elon Musk's"}, {"start": "02:56:47", "end": "02:56:52", "text": "Starling terminals is illegal in Iran."}, {"start": "02:56:49", "end": "02:56:54", "text": "So, you get put in a federal pound mess"}, {"start": "02:56:52", "end": "02:56:57", "text": "prison for years if you're even caught"}, {"start": "02:56:54", "end": "02:57:00", "text": "with one of these Starling terminals."}, {"start": "02:56:57", "end": "02:57:02", "text": "The rep repressive regime limits access"}, {"start": "02:57:00", "end": "02:57:04", "text": "to independent and foreign media. But"}, {"start": "02:57:02", "end": "02:57:06", "text": "tens of thousands of Iranians possess"}, {"start": "02:57:04", "end": "02:57:09", "text": "the satellite terminals, analysts and"}, {"start": "02:57:06", "end": "02:57:14", "text": "activists say. So it's interesting this"}, {"start": "02:57:09", "end": "02:57:17", "text": "this document here talks about"}, {"start": "02:57:14", "end": "02:57:17", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:57:17", "end": "02:57:22", "text": "their whole so this talks about their"}, {"start": "02:57:21", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "oper their com their their ability to"}, {"start": "02:57:22", "end": "02:57:28", "text": "shut down internet access. It's a key"}, {"start": "02:57:25", "end": "02:57:30", "text": "part of their cyber capabilities and it"}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:33", "text": "I know cyber warfare a lot of people"}, {"start": "02:57:30", "end": "02:57:36", "text": "think that it's boring and uh lame and"}, {"start": "02:57:33", "end": "02:57:38", "text": "it's not very visual but it's one of the"}, {"start": "02:57:36", "end": "02:57:40", "text": "most important aspects"}, {"start": "02:57:38", "end": "02:57:43", "text": "in"}, {"start": "02:57:40", "end": "02:57:44", "text": "repressing a people for instance"}, {"start": "02:57:43", "end": "02:57:46", "text": "shutting down internet access and"}, {"start": "02:57:44", "end": "02:57:48", "text": "controlling communications. So, you'll"}, {"start": "02:57:46", "end": "02:57:54", "text": "see cyber security mentioned a bunch in"}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:55", "text": "here. Uh, for months, senior officials"}, {"start": "02:57:54", "end": "02:57:58", "text": "pushed Starlink as the best way to"}, {"start": "02:57:55", "end": "02:58:00", "text": "support anti-regimements inside of Iran"}, {"start": "02:57:58", "end": "02:58:02", "text": "alongside or instead of virtual private"}, {"start": "02:58:00", "end": "02:58:06", "text": "networks, known more commonly as VPN."}, {"start": "02:58:02", "end": "02:58:08", "text": "So, that was another um another way that"}, {"start": "02:58:06", "end": "02:58:11", "text": "they"}, {"start": "02:58:08", "end": "02:58:15", "text": "tried to so that they tried to make sure"}, {"start": "02:58:11", "end": "02:58:16", "text": "that communications were accessible. So,"}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "internet freedom experts and other US"}, {"start": "02:58:16", "end": "02:58:21", "text": "officials have advocate advocated for"}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:23", "text": "fully funding VPNs. Some 30 million"}, {"start": "02:58:21", "end": "02:58:26", "text": "Iranians used US funded VPNs during the"}, {"start": "02:58:23", "end": "02:58:29", "text": "country's widespread protests in 2022."}, {"start": "02:58:26", "end": "02:58:30", "text": "And what they did was they smuggled"}, {"start": "02:58:29", "end": "02:58:34", "text": "these"}, {"start": "02:58:30", "end": "02:58:37", "text": "capabilities in. And what I want to show"}, {"start": "02:58:34", "end": "02:58:41", "text": "you now is really important and I"}, {"start": "02:58:37", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "believe it's the"}, {"start": "02:58:41", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "um the Kurdish resistance groups."}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:54", "text": "They just recently put aside their"}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:57", "text": "differences and decided to"}, {"start": "02:58:54", "end": "02:59:00", "text": "help"}, {"start": "02:58:57", "end": "02:59:03", "text": "um they just put aside their differences"}, {"start": "02:59:00", "end": "02:59:04", "text": "and decided to"}, {"start": "02:59:03", "end": "02:59:07", "text": "basically"}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:09", "text": "go against"}, {"start": "02:59:07", "end": "02:59:13", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:59:09", "end": "02:59:15", "text": "here we'll take a look at it right now."}, {"start": "02:59:13", "end": "02:59:16", "text": "here. What you're looking at here is the"}, {"start": "02:59:15", "end": "02:59:20", "text": "different"}, {"start": "02:59:16", "end": "02:59:25", "text": "uh there's resistance groups."}, {"start": "02:59:20", "end": "02:59:27", "text": "The Kurdish groups are this map here."}, {"start": "02:59:25", "end": "02:59:31", "text": "And there's different Kurdish factions"}, {"start": "02:59:27", "end": "02:59:32", "text": "and they can't really agree. But the"}, {"start": "02:59:31", "end": "02:59:36", "text": "different factions of the Kurdish"}, {"start": "02:59:32", "end": "02:59:38", "text": "people, what they want is to overthrow"}, {"start": "02:59:36", "end": "02:59:40", "text": "the Iranian government, of course, and"}, {"start": "02:59:38", "end": "02:59:43", "text": "to return to their homes in Iran. and"}, {"start": "02:59:40", "end": "02:59:46", "text": "what the Iranian Kurdish groups have"}, {"start": "02:59:43", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "united against Thrron's regime. Iraqi"}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:52", "text": "militias threaten Kurdistan region. So,"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:54", "text": "five Kurdish Iranian groups announced"}, {"start": "02:59:52", "end": "02:59:56", "text": "the formation of a united coalition"}, {"start": "02:59:54", "end": "02:59:58", "text": "against Thran. And anyone who knows"}, {"start": "02:59:56", "end": "03:00:02", "text": "anything about the Kurds in this area in"}, {"start": "02:59:58", "end": "03:00:03", "text": "these factions knows that"}, {"start": "03:00:02", "end": "03:00:04", "text": "this is something short of a miracle"}, {"start": "03:00:03", "end": "03:00:08", "text": "that they'd put aside their differences"}, {"start": "03:00:04", "end": "03:00:10", "text": "to unite against Iran. And I think that"}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:12", "text": "comes out of a emerging opportunity"}, {"start": "03:00:10", "end": "03:00:15", "text": "here, a window of opportunity that they"}, {"start": "03:00:12", "end": "03:00:18", "text": "see. The Kurdish Iranian groups in Iraq"}, {"start": "03:00:15", "end": "03:00:21", "text": "eye opportunity for change at home. In"}, {"start": "03:00:18", "end": "03:00:23", "text": "the Iraqi mountains near Iran, an exiled"}, {"start": "03:00:21", "end": "03:00:25", "text": "Kurdish Iranian commander told the AFP"}, {"start": "03:00:23", "end": "03:00:27", "text": "that whether or not the US launches"}, {"start": "03:00:25", "end": "03:00:29", "text": "strikes on Iran, he will still seek"}, {"start": "03:00:27", "end": "03:00:32", "text": "regime change in order to win"}, {"start": "03:00:29", "end": "03:00:34", "text": "self-determination for the Kurds. This"}, {"start": "03:00:32", "end": "03:00:36", "text": "is the Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan"}, {"start": "03:00:34", "end": "03:00:38", "text": "region has long been a haven for Kurdish"}, {"start": "03:00:36", "end": "03:00:40", "text": "Iranian armed factions which have"}, {"start": "03:00:38", "end": "03:00:42", "text": "repeatedly faced crossborder strikes"}, {"start": "03:00:40", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "from Iran. We cannot take the side of"}, {"start": "03:00:42", "end": "03:00:48", "text": "either the Americans or the Iranians."}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:49", "text": "Our cause is different. So they"}, {"start": "03:00:48", "end": "03:00:55", "text": "that's what I'm going to be looking at"}, {"start": "03:00:49", "end": "03:00:55", "text": "is do these groups act?"}, {"start": "03:01:01", "end": "03:01:05", "text": "What do you think would happen if there"}, {"start": "03:01:03", "end": "03:01:07", "text": "are US casualties included in the"}, {"start": "03:01:05", "end": "03:01:09", "text": "strikes?"}, {"start": "03:01:07", "end": "03:01:10", "text": "I don't think I think that that's baked"}, {"start": "03:01:09", "end": "03:01:12", "text": "into the assumption. I think they assume"}, {"start": "03:01:10", "end": "03:01:14", "text": "that there's going to be US casualties"}, {"start": "03:01:12", "end": "03:01:17", "text": "in these strikes and I think they're"}, {"start": "03:01:14", "end": "03:01:20", "text": "going to proceed the same with or"}, {"start": "03:01:17", "end": "03:01:23", "text": "without that sub battle. I'm of says"}, {"start": "03:01:20", "end": "03:01:24", "text": "Moth Man. I'm of the opinion that the US"}, {"start": "03:01:23", "end": "03:01:26", "text": "administration made this choice after"}, {"start": "03:01:24", "end": "03:01:30", "text": "exhausting over 40 years of diplomatic"}, {"start": "03:01:26", "end": "03:01:32", "text": "measures and now we leave the table. It"}, {"start": "03:01:30", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "could be that"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:37", "text": "I would look at it more I think a more"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:41", "text": "valuable way of looking at it is that"}, {"start": "03:01:37", "end": "03:01:46", "text": "the um the conditions are right, the"}, {"start": "03:01:41", "end": "03:01:47", "text": "shaping operations are right. So the the"}, {"start": "03:01:46", "end": "03:01:49", "text": "ducks are in a row and there's this"}, {"start": "03:01:47", "end": "03:01:51", "text": "window of opportunity and they're going"}, {"start": "03:01:49", "end": "03:01:54", "text": "to take it and there was never going to"}, {"start": "03:01:51", "end": "03:01:57", "text": "be any real um diplomatic solution"}, {"start": "03:01:54", "end": "03:02:00", "text": "between this administration"}, {"start": "03:01:57", "end": "03:02:04", "text": "and the Iran and uh the Islamic"}, {"start": "03:02:00", "end": "03:02:06", "text": "Republic. So"}, {"start": "03:02:04", "end": "03:02:08", "text": "we'll see here"}, {"start": "03:02:06", "end": "03:02:11", "text": "what new footage is coming out. Follow"}, {"start": "03:02:08", "end": "03:02:13", "text": "Osen Technol is another great open-"}, {"start": "03:02:11", "end": "03:02:16", "text": "source intelligence"}, {"start": "03:02:13", "end": "03:02:16", "text": "reporter."}, {"start": "03:02:17", "end": "03:02:23", "text": "Israeli Air Force tanker seen over Syria"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:25", "text": "dragging F-16s to conduct air strikes on"}, {"start": "03:02:23", "end": "03:02:27", "text": "Iran. The EU says that Houthi forces are"}, {"start": "03:02:25", "end": "03:02:29", "text": "threatening to launch new attacks on US"}, {"start": "03:02:27", "end": "03:02:33", "text": "and Israeli ships in the Red Sea and"}, {"start": "03:02:29", "end": "03:02:33", "text": "Gulf of Aiden."}, {"start": "03:02:41", "end": "03:02:48", "text": "Talhagen appears to be good at"}, {"start": "03:02:44", "end": "03:02:48", "text": "sifting through the disinformation"}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:03:02", "text": "and that there's some misinformation"}, {"start": "03:02:58", "end": "03:03:03", "text": "coming out right now that"}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:06", "text": "we can expect to have to sift through"}, {"start": "03:03:03", "end": "03:03:10", "text": "right Now, US aircraft have struck an"}, {"start": "03:03:06", "end": "03:03:12", "text": "industrial complex in Teis,"}, {"start": "03:03:10", "end": "03:03:16", "text": "Iran that was reportedly being used to"}, {"start": "03:03:12", "end": "03:03:16", "text": "make Iranian ballistic missiles."}, {"start": "03:03:21", "end": "03:03:26", "text": "That looks like a 2,000 pounder to me."}, {"start": "03:03:38", "end": "03:03:43", "text": "Dozens of US Tomahawk cruise missiles"}, {"start": "03:03:40", "end": "03:03:45", "text": "just flew over Iraqi Kurdistan headed"}, {"start": "03:03:43", "end": "03:03:48", "text": "towards Iran. This is full American"}, {"start": "03:03:45", "end": "03:03:50", "text": "combat engagement. Trump called it major"}, {"start": "03:03:48", "end": "03:03:54", "text": "combat operations."}, {"start": "03:03:50", "end": "03:03:54", "text": "Take a look at this. Oh. Whoa."}, {"start": "03:04:10", "end": "03:04:15", "text": "about five, six,"}, {"start": "03:04:13", "end": "03:04:17", "text": "seven,"}, {"start": "03:04:15", "end": "03:04:19", "text": "seven tomahawks flying overhead. And"}, {"start": "03:04:17", "end": "03:04:22", "text": "it's it's uh"}, {"start": "03:04:19", "end": "03:04:24", "text": "it's crazy. The last time I heard cruise"}, {"start": "03:04:22", "end": "03:04:29", "text": "missiles flying overhead, I was in"}, {"start": "03:04:24", "end": "03:04:32", "text": "Ukraine and I was with a team right"}, {"start": "03:04:29", "end": "03:04:34", "text": "right on the front and we stayed"}, {"start": "03:04:32", "end": "03:04:36", "text": "overnight at this position on the front"}, {"start": "03:04:34", "end": "03:04:39", "text": "and"}, {"start": "03:04:36", "end": "03:04:41", "text": "the cruise missiles flew over our"}, {"start": "03:04:39", "end": "03:04:44", "text": "position and it sounded like it sounds"}, {"start": "03:04:41", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "like that. Sounds like a jet engine"}, {"start": "03:04:44", "end": "03:04:48", "text": "going overhead, but we knew it wasn't"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:51", "text": "any aircraft overhead because that the"}, {"start": "03:04:48", "end": "03:04:53", "text": "airspace right at the zero line is"}, {"start": "03:04:51", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "there's no aircraft flying overhead. So,"}, {"start": "03:04:53", "end": "03:04:58", "text": "it was a cruise missile. And then you"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:04:59", "text": "you feel the you can feel the ground"}, {"start": "03:04:58", "end": "03:05:01", "text": "shake, which is something that you don't"}, {"start": "03:04:59", "end": "03:05:05", "text": "when you look at these videos, you get"}, {"start": "03:05:01", "end": "03:05:08", "text": "removed from it, but in the shock of the"}, {"start": "03:05:05", "end": "03:05:11", "text": "blast, you feel it in the ground and it"}, {"start": "03:05:08", "end": "03:05:14", "text": "shakes through you and it's terrifying."}, {"start": "03:05:11", "end": "03:05:16", "text": "None of this surprises me after reading,"}, {"start": "03:05:14", "end": "03:05:19", "text": "studying the Bible."}, {"start": "03:05:16", "end": "03:05:21", "text": "It is uh I hope you're wrong. I ju I"}, {"start": "03:05:19", "end": "03:05:24", "text": "just had a child and I feel like I've"}, {"start": "03:05:21", "end": "03:05:28", "text": "never been more invested in wanting to"}, {"start": "03:05:24", "end": "03:05:30", "text": "see the world be a safe place. And so"}, {"start": "03:05:28", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "when you see this uncertainty, it can be"}, {"start": "03:05:30", "end": "03:05:35", "text": "scary. Um you you don't want to believe"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:39", "text": "that it's going that way. No tin foil"}, {"start": "03:05:35", "end": "03:05:43", "text": "needed for that one, Cappy. We say just"}, {"start": "03:05:39", "end": "03:05:45", "text": "that a beginning of steam. This is a"}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:49", "text": "preemptive strike of guarantee that"}, {"start": "03:05:45", "end": "03:05:52", "text": "Taiwan would only be a one-front war. I"}, {"start": "03:05:49", "end": "03:05:53", "text": "do think that a big part of this is"}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:56", "text": "trying to prevent Taiwan from being a"}, {"start": "03:05:53", "end": "03:05:58", "text": "two-front war because it see I mean just"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:02", "text": "so I'll say that the assessments that"}, {"start": "03:05:58", "end": "03:06:04", "text": "I've been seeing recently is that the US"}, {"start": "03:06:02", "end": "03:06:10", "text": "they put out this overmatch brief which"}, {"start": "03:06:04", "end": "03:06:12", "text": "is this brief that says that the that"}, {"start": "03:06:10", "end": "03:06:15", "text": "China is looking to move and that they"}, {"start": "03:06:12", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "have a severe advant a significant"}, {"start": "03:06:15", "end": "03:06:23", "text": "advantage in the Pacific especially if"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:24", "text": "our attention is split. So I think, you"}, {"start": "03:06:23", "end": "03:06:26", "text": "know, whether they're right or wrong, I"}, {"start": "03:06:24", "end": "03:06:29", "text": "think the Pentagon believes that China's"}, {"start": "03:06:26", "end": "03:06:31", "text": "going to move in the next few years. And"}, {"start": "03:06:29", "end": "03:06:34", "text": "if they don't take this opportunity now,"}, {"start": "03:06:31", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "imagine how bad the geopolitical"}, {"start": "03:06:34", "end": "03:06:38", "text": "situation would be for the United"}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:41", "text": "States."}, {"start": "03:06:38", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "How rebuilt is the Iranian air defense"}, {"start": "03:06:41", "end": "03:06:46", "text": "network? If we're sending F-16s for"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "strikes instead of F-35s, F-22s for seed"}, {"start": "03:06:46", "end": "03:06:51", "text": "suppression of enemy air defense, could"}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:52", "text": "they already have gained air supremacy"}, {"start": "03:06:51", "end": "03:06:55", "text": "like during the 12-day war? I think it's"}, {"start": "03:06:52", "end": "03:06:58", "text": "very likely that there's air supremacy."}, {"start": "03:06:55", "end": "03:07:01", "text": "I think Iran's air defense network is"}, {"start": "03:06:58", "end": "03:07:05", "text": "cooked. Um, I don't think the Iranian"}, {"start": "03:07:01", "end": "03:07:07", "text": "regime is trying to"}, {"start": "03:07:05", "end": "03:07:10", "text": "shoot down aircraft, although they they"}, {"start": "03:07:07", "end": "03:07:12", "text": "very well could. There's serious serious"}, {"start": "03:07:10", "end": "03:07:14", "text": "air defense. There's still serious air"}, {"start": "03:07:12", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "defense threats inside of Iran. But I'm"}, {"start": "03:07:14", "end": "03:07:18", "text": "saying that their attention right now"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:23", "text": "isn't on shooting down US pilots. I"}, {"start": "03:07:18", "end": "03:07:25", "text": "think their main attention is on um is"}, {"start": "03:07:23", "end": "03:07:28", "text": "on"}, {"start": "03:07:25", "end": "03:07:30", "text": "repressing any you know is keeping the"}, {"start": "03:07:28", "end": "03:07:33", "text": "regime alive is that's their main. So"}, {"start": "03:07:30", "end": "03:07:35", "text": "Iran offered everything but Israel"}, {"start": "03:07:33", "end": "03:07:39", "text": "demanded no ballistic missiles and navy"}, {"start": "03:07:35", "end": "03:07:41", "text": "says Devidita Fredo. Nations are allowed"}, {"start": "03:07:39", "end": "03:07:44", "text": "to have deterrence. Could Turkey or"}, {"start": "03:07:41", "end": "03:07:47", "text": "Egypt be next for the Greater Israel"}, {"start": "03:07:44", "end": "03:07:49", "text": "project? BB has blackmail on Trump for"}, {"start": "03:07:47", "end": "03:07:52", "text": "his island shenanigans for sure. They"}, {"start": "03:07:49", "end": "03:07:52", "text": "say"}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:59", "text": "Iran offered everything, but Israel"}, {"start": "03:07:57", "end": "03:08:01", "text": "demanded no ballistic missiles and navy."}, {"start": "03:07:59", "end": "03:08:03", "text": "Okay. So, you're saying Iran said, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "03:08:01", "end": "03:08:05", "text": "we're we're cool with not developing and"}, {"start": "03:08:03", "end": "03:08:07", "text": "enriching"}, {"start": "03:08:05", "end": "03:08:09", "text": "inside of our country with nuclear"}, {"start": "03:08:07", "end": "03:08:13", "text": "weapons,"}, {"start": "03:08:09", "end": "03:08:15", "text": "but Israel made a basically a demand"}, {"start": "03:08:13", "end": "03:08:17", "text": "that was one bridge too far.\" They knew"}, {"start": "03:08:15", "end": "03:08:19", "text": "that this demand would never be met."}, {"start": "03:08:17", "end": "03:08:21", "text": "Israel made an unrealistic demand. This"}, {"start": "03:08:19", "end": "03:08:24", "text": "is your argument that Israel made an"}, {"start": "03:08:21", "end": "03:08:26", "text": "unrealistic demand for, hey, no"}, {"start": "03:08:24", "end": "03:08:28", "text": "ballistic missiles even, knowing that"}, {"start": "03:08:26", "end": "03:08:32", "text": "Iran couldn't accept."}, {"start": "03:08:28", "end": "03:08:33", "text": "So you're saying nations have a right to"}, {"start": "03:08:32", "end": "03:08:36", "text": "have deterrence"}, {"start": "03:08:33", "end": "03:08:39", "text": "and yeah I would say they do but I think"}, {"start": "03:08:36", "end": "03:08:41", "text": "nations also have a right to"}, {"start": "03:08:39", "end": "03:08:44", "text": "selfdetermination"}, {"start": "03:08:41", "end": "03:08:47", "text": "and if the Iranian people don't want"}, {"start": "03:08:44", "end": "03:08:48", "text": "their government to be putting all their"}, {"start": "03:08:47", "end": "03:08:51", "text": "money and resources into building"}, {"start": "03:08:48", "end": "03:08:54", "text": "ballistic missiles if the Iranian people"}, {"start": "03:08:51", "end": "03:08:57", "text": "want to ally with the West because they"}, {"start": "03:08:54", "end": "03:08:59", "text": "think that their kids' futures will be"}, {"start": "03:08:57", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "more prosperous because of that then I"}, {"start": "03:08:59", "end": "03:09:07", "text": "think they have a right to that. Um"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:10", "text": "could Turkey or Egypt be next for the"}, {"start": "03:09:07", "end": "03:09:10", "text": "Greater Israel project?"}, {"start": "03:09:11", "end": "03:09:17", "text": "Brother,"}, {"start": "03:09:13", "end": "03:09:21", "text": "that that is so far outside my tactical"}, {"start": "03:09:17", "end": "03:09:24", "text": "concerns here. I don't"}, {"start": "03:09:21", "end": "03:09:28", "text": "I think Egypt and Israel are aligned in"}, {"start": "03:09:24", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "some ways. They both don't want"}, {"start": "03:09:28", "end": "03:09:34", "text": "Palestinian refugees. They both refuse"}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:37", "text": "that. They both fight terrorism. Like I"}, {"start": "03:09:34", "end": "03:09:40", "text": "think they have more agreements than you"}, {"start": "03:09:37", "end": "03:09:41", "text": "you'd be surprised about."}, {"start": "03:09:40", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "I think a lot of what we see in the"}, {"start": "03:09:41", "end": "03:09:46", "text": "public is not what happens behind the"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:50", "text": "scenes. BB has blackmail on Trump for"}, {"start": "03:09:46", "end": "03:09:53", "text": "his island shenanigans for sure. Hey, we"}, {"start": "03:09:50", "end": "03:09:57", "text": "did a we did an episode on"}, {"start": "03:09:53", "end": "03:10:00", "text": "we did a whole episode on um Jeffrey"}, {"start": "03:09:57", "end": "03:10:02", "text": "Epstein and his ties to elicit arms"}, {"start": "03:10:00", "end": "03:10:04", "text": "deals if you want. A couple weeks ago,"}, {"start": "03:10:02", "end": "03:10:06", "text": "two weeks ago or so, I think two weeks"}, {"start": "03:10:04", "end": "03:10:09", "text": "ago, we did this episode and we outlined"}, {"start": "03:10:06", "end": "03:10:13", "text": "all the ways that his blackmail campaign"}, {"start": "03:10:09", "end": "03:10:15", "text": "um has had gone deep."}, {"start": "03:10:13", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "And if that's the case, I hope we find"}, {"start": "03:10:15", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "out."}, {"start": "03:10:22", "end": "03:10:28", "text": "The IDF completed a broad strike on"}, {"start": "03:10:24", "end": "03:10:28", "text": "strategic defense systems."}, {"start": "03:10:33", "end": "03:10:37", "text": "So, this shows us where they're hiding"}, {"start": "03:10:35", "end": "03:10:38", "text": "the ballistic or the aircraft anti-air"}, {"start": "03:10:37", "end": "03:10:40", "text": "systems, I guess, and the ballistic"}, {"start": "03:10:38", "end": "03:10:45", "text": "missile launchers"}, {"start": "03:10:40", "end": "03:10:48", "text": "and where Israel has been striking."}, {"start": "03:10:45", "end": "03:10:51", "text": "Cappy, apologies for not clarifying, but"}, {"start": "03:10:48", "end": "03:10:53", "text": "it wasn't a mistype. I mean about UK"}, {"start": "03:10:51", "end": "03:10:56", "text": "United King troops at risk on US sites."}, {"start": "03:10:53", "end": "03:11:00", "text": "What if there are UK casualties in this?"}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "If there are UK casualties,"}, {"start": "03:11:00", "end": "03:11:05", "text": "then I don't see how that changes the"}, {"start": "03:11:02", "end": "03:11:07", "text": "calculations. Personally,"}, {"start": "03:11:05", "end": "03:11:09", "text": "um I think they still go the course if"}, {"start": "03:11:07", "end": "03:11:11", "text": "there are UK casualties is my opinion. I"}, {"start": "03:11:09", "end": "03:11:13", "text": "don't think it changes, you know,"}, {"start": "03:11:11", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "they're they're already escalating to"}, {"start": "03:11:13", "end": "03:11:17", "text": "the absolute limits. How could they"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:18", "text": "escalate anymore? They're they're going"}, {"start": "03:11:17", "end": "03:11:20", "text": "they're not doing we thought there might"}, {"start": "03:11:18", "end": "03:11:23", "text": "be limited strikes. This is not limited"}, {"start": "03:11:20", "end": "03:11:26", "text": "strikes. This is"}, {"start": "03:11:23", "end": "03:11:29", "text": "full, as I would call it, balls deep"}, {"start": "03:11:26", "end": "03:11:30", "text": "military action. There is nowhere to"}, {"start": "03:11:29", "end": "03:11:32", "text": "escalate from here. The United States"}, {"start": "03:11:30", "end": "03:11:35", "text": "has already said we're going for regime"}, {"start": "03:11:32", "end": "03:11:38", "text": "change. H how do you escalate any"}, {"start": "03:11:35", "end": "03:11:42", "text": "further than that? I mean, where guys,"}, {"start": "03:11:38", "end": "03:11:42", "text": "where do you go up from there?"}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:46", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "03:11:53", "end": "03:11:59", "text": "an Iranian ballistic missile has"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:12:03", "text": "reportedly hit Palm Hotel and Resort in"}, {"start": "03:11:59", "end": "03:12:06", "text": "Dubai. The UAE does host some US forces"}, {"start": "03:12:03", "end": "03:12:06", "text": "south of Dubai."}, {"start": "03:12:06", "end": "03:12:14", "text": "See the fire on the strike there."}, {"start": "03:12:11", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "And from Mario Nafal's account,"}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:18", "text": "exclusive video and photos provided by"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:20", "text": "Trusted Contact captured scenes"}, {"start": "03:12:18", "end": "03:12:22", "text": "following the strikes in Dubai."}, {"start": "03:12:20", "end": "03:12:25", "text": "There's a fire."}, {"start": "03:12:22", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "Kareem, we need to go."}, {"start": "03:12:25", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "There's a fire."}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:33", "text": "Kareem, we need to go."}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:33", "text": "There's a fire."}, {"start": "03:12:35", "end": "03:12:38", "text": "Here"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:52", "text": "we can see more ballistic missiles being"}, {"start": "03:12:49", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "fired overhead."}, {"start": "03:12:52", "end": "03:12:58", "text": "They fly really low, right?"}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:02", "text": "That's absolutely as low as they can"}, {"start": "03:12:58", "end": "03:13:04", "text": "possibly fly to avoid air defense and to"}, {"start": "03:13:02", "end": "03:13:05", "text": "avoid radar. You see it right there."}, {"start": "03:13:04", "end": "03:13:10", "text": "probably I mean what would you guess"}, {"start": "03:13:05", "end": "03:13:12", "text": "guys what is that 500 feet above uh"}, {"start": "03:13:10", "end": "03:13:16", "text": "ground they're flying that nap of the"}, {"start": "03:13:12", "end": "03:13:18", "text": "earth to avoid incoming uh air defense"}, {"start": "03:13:16", "end": "03:13:20", "text": "and they're also"}, {"start": "03:13:18", "end": "03:13:22", "text": "flying that because that's probably the"}, {"start": "03:13:20", "end": "03:13:24", "text": "absolute height of the mountains that"}, {"start": "03:13:22", "end": "03:13:26", "text": "are in its path. So it's probably flying"}, {"start": "03:13:24", "end": "03:13:28", "text": "right above the mountains. I'm with"}, {"start": "03:13:26", "end": "03:13:31", "text": "Ethan glass the region and start from"}, {"start": "03:13:28", "end": "03:13:34", "text": "scratch. Mulligan in the Middle East"}, {"start": "03:13:31", "end": "03:13:36", "text": "says someone. Um, I don't think I'd go"}, {"start": "03:13:34", "end": "03:13:39", "text": "that far, but that's you. You do you. Do"}, {"start": "03:13:36", "end": "03:13:42", "text": "you think we'll begin rationing food"}, {"start": "03:13:39", "end": "03:13:45", "text": "soon? Have you seen the orb over Thrron"}, {"start": "03:13:42", "end": "03:13:47", "text": "this morning? Maybe something related to"}, {"start": "03:13:45", "end": "03:13:48", "text": "that new secret tech. I have not seen an"}, {"start": "03:13:47", "end": "03:13:50", "text": "orb over Iran. I haven't seen reports of"}, {"start": "03:13:48", "end": "03:13:52", "text": "that yet, but I'll keep my eye open for"}, {"start": "03:13:50", "end": "03:13:54", "text": "that. Hi, Cappy. I just wanted to say I"}, {"start": "03:13:52", "end": "03:13:56", "text": "appreciate your level-headed commentary"}, {"start": "03:13:54", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "on the whole situation and always very"}, {"start": "03:13:56", "end": "03:14:00", "text": "informative videos. keep up the good"}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:02", "text": "work. Keeping us all in the loop during"}, {"start": "03:14:00", "end": "03:14:05", "text": "crazy times."}, {"start": "03:14:02", "end": "03:14:08", "text": "It is crazy times and I I'm full I'm"}, {"start": "03:14:05", "end": "03:14:13", "text": "still uh I'm still trying to comprehend"}, {"start": "03:14:08", "end": "03:14:15", "text": "really the just how historic this is. Um"}, {"start": "03:14:13", "end": "03:14:18", "text": "this isn't like the 12-day war that"}, {"start": "03:14:15", "end": "03:14:20", "text": "we're seeing here. This is not like the"}, {"start": "03:14:18", "end": "03:14:22", "text": "wars that we've seen, the tit fortat"}, {"start": "03:14:20", "end": "03:14:24", "text": "attacks that we've seen in the past."}, {"start": "03:14:22", "end": "03:14:26", "text": "This is nothing like that. This is"}, {"start": "03:14:24", "end": "03:14:30", "text": "monumental. This is historic what we're"}, {"start": "03:14:26", "end": "03:14:32", "text": "witnessing right now. Um, so it's the"}, {"start": "03:14:30", "end": "03:14:34", "text": "reshaping of the Middle East in ways we"}, {"start": "03:14:32", "end": "03:14:38", "text": "haven't seen in"}, {"start": "03:14:34", "end": "03:14:41", "text": "since 19 since the 1980s, since 1980."}, {"start": "03:14:38", "end": "03:14:43", "text": "So I I don't know how to put that fully"}, {"start": "03:14:41", "end": "03:14:45", "text": "into words, but I try to keep a level"}, {"start": "03:14:43", "end": "03:14:48", "text": "head because"}, {"start": "03:14:45", "end": "03:14:50", "text": "it's so hard to wrap your head around"}, {"start": "03:14:48", "end": "03:14:52", "text": "that. It could theoretically escalate by"}, {"start": "03:14:50", "end": "03:14:53", "text": "turning into a regional or global"}, {"start": "03:14:52", "end": "03:14:56", "text": "alliance participating in attacks"}, {"start": "03:14:53", "end": "03:14:58", "text": "against Iran as opposed to just US and"}, {"start": "03:14:56", "end": "03:15:00", "text": "Israel. They've made a lot of enemies"}, {"start": "03:14:58", "end": "03:15:01", "text": "over the years. Your thoughts?"}, {"start": "03:15:00", "end": "03:15:03", "text": "I actually, it's funny because when you"}, {"start": "03:15:01", "end": "03:15:06", "text": "say that, I actually think it's more"}, {"start": "03:15:03", "end": "03:15:09", "text": "likely that this could escalate into a"}, {"start": "03:15:06", "end": "03:15:12", "text": "regional or global alliance against the"}, {"start": "03:15:09", "end": "03:15:14", "text": "US and Israel. I think, you know, it's"}, {"start": "03:15:12", "end": "03:15:15", "text": "more likely that we see what is the"}, {"start": "03:15:14", "end": "03:15:17", "text": "retaliation"}, {"start": "03:15:15", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "from Russia and China. Is it just going"}, {"start": "03:15:17", "end": "03:15:21", "text": "to be words or are they going to is this"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:23", "text": "going to move up timeline of plans,"}, {"start": "03:15:21", "end": "03:15:26", "text": "military plans that they might have had?"}, {"start": "03:15:23", "end": "03:15:28", "text": "Um, I think that the US already has all"}, {"start": "03:15:26", "end": "03:15:30", "text": "of their allies involved in this that"}, {"start": "03:15:28", "end": "03:15:32", "text": "are willing to take part in this. Um,"}, {"start": "03:15:30", "end": "03:15:34", "text": "you could see here more cruise missiles"}, {"start": "03:15:32", "end": "03:15:36", "text": "flying just over the height of the"}, {"start": "03:15:34", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "highest mountains here. Crew, look at"}, {"start": "03:15:36", "end": "03:15:40", "text": "them all. And they're all right right"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:43", "text": "within,"}, {"start": "03:15:40", "end": "03:15:45", "text": "you know, a short BA band that they're"}, {"start": "03:15:43", "end": "03:15:48", "text": "flying against because this overwhelms"}, {"start": "03:15:45", "end": "03:15:50", "text": "any air defense. They're all packed"}, {"start": "03:15:48", "end": "03:15:53", "text": "tightly on top of each other and they're"}, {"start": "03:15:50", "end": "03:15:54", "text": "all flying probably towards very similar"}, {"start": "03:15:53", "end": "03:15:57", "text": "targets"}, {"start": "03:15:54", "end": "03:16:01", "text": "here. We're seeing"}, {"start": "03:15:57", "end": "03:16:01", "text": "uh Oh."}, {"start": "03:16:06", "end": "03:16:11", "text": "Yo, if I saw a ballistic missile in the"}, {"start": "03:16:09", "end": "03:16:12", "text": "middle of the street, I might do the"}, {"start": "03:16:11", "end": "03:16:14", "text": "same thing. That might be worth"}, {"start": "03:16:12", "end": "03:16:17", "text": "something. How much you think do you get"}, {"start": "03:16:14", "end": "03:16:19", "text": "on eBay for that ballistic missile?"}, {"start": "03:16:17", "end": "03:16:22", "text": "You're going to see on eBay later today."}, {"start": "03:16:19", "end": "03:16:25", "text": "Someone's going to be listing uh back"}, {"start": "03:16:22", "end": "03:16:29", "text": "part of a ballistic missile for sale."}, {"start": "03:16:25", "end": "03:16:30", "text": "Best offer. Uh that's I would do the"}, {"start": "03:16:29", "end": "03:16:32", "text": "same thing. I don't think I've ever seen"}, {"start": "03:16:30", "end": "03:16:35", "text": "that before, guys. I don't think I've"}, {"start": "03:16:32", "end": "03:16:37", "text": "ever seen a car dragging a piece of"}, {"start": "03:16:35", "end": "03:16:39", "text": "Iranian ballistic missile. That's"}, {"start": "03:16:37", "end": "03:16:42", "text": "absolutely bonkers."}, {"start": "03:16:39", "end": "03:16:42", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:16:43", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "here we're seeing Israeli interceptors"}, {"start": "03:16:46", "end": "03:16:50", "text": "launched in Tel Aviv to engage incoming"}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:52", "text": "ballistic missiles and they're just this"}, {"start": "03:16:50", "end": "03:16:54", "text": "is what I would call batch firing. So"}, {"start": "03:16:52", "end": "03:16:57", "text": "they fire out a number of these to try"}, {"start": "03:16:54", "end": "03:17:00", "text": "to hit the decoys to try to hit the the"}, {"start": "03:16:57", "end": "03:17:03", "text": "main warheads."}, {"start": "03:17:00", "end": "03:17:03", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "03:17:04", "end": "03:17:11", "text": "Israel assesses that Iran's Supreme"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:13", "text": "Leader Ali Kamini was likely killed in"}, {"start": "03:17:11", "end": "03:17:15", "text": "an Israeli strike earlier today. Channel"}, {"start": "03:17:13", "end": "03:17:17", "text": "12 from Israel says, this is from"}, {"start": "03:17:15", "end": "03:17:19", "text": "Preston Stewart. Great, great, very"}, {"start": "03:17:17", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "credible source. I recommend you follow"}, {"start": "03:17:19", "end": "03:17:24", "text": "him. Citing unnamed Israeli sources, it"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:28", "text": "says that there are growing indications"}, {"start": "03:17:24", "end": "03:17:30", "text": "to this effect. So, I could see there"}, {"start": "03:17:28", "end": "03:17:31", "text": "being reason why Israel would want to"}, {"start": "03:17:30", "end": "03:17:34", "text": "put this information out and put it out"}, {"start": "03:17:31", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "into this into the information space"}, {"start": "03:17:34", "end": "03:17:40", "text": "that the leaders are already killed."}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:42", "text": "It's very beneficial for their attempts"}, {"start": "03:17:40", "end": "03:17:43", "text": "to at a regime change, but it could also"}, {"start": "03:17:42", "end": "03:17:46", "text": "just be a fact. But I would put that"}, {"start": "03:17:43", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "information out if I was Israel. Either"}, {"start": "03:17:46", "end": "03:17:53", "text": "way, IRGC public relations. The American"}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:55", "text": "radar facility in Qatar was equipped"}, {"start": "03:17:53", "end": "03:17:57", "text": "with unique equipment used for tracking"}, {"start": "03:17:55", "end": "03:18:01", "text": "ballistic missiles that was completely"}, {"start": "03:17:57", "end": "03:18:06", "text": "destroyed is their claim. So, we might"}, {"start": "03:18:01", "end": "03:18:06", "text": "have taken some hits here."}, {"start": "03:18:06", "end": "03:18:11", "text": "Impacts, breaking footage."}, {"start": "03:18:33", "end": "03:18:36", "text": "Yeah, I thought this I thought this"}, {"start": "03:18:34", "end": "03:18:38", "text": "video was pretty nuts if it's if it's"}, {"start": "03:18:36", "end": "03:18:41", "text": "confirmed to be real."}, {"start": "03:18:38", "end": "03:18:44", "text": "Shooting it down right right there."}, {"start": "03:18:41", "end": "03:18:44", "text": "Go"}, {"start": "03:18:55", "end": "03:18:58", "text": "banana."}, {"start": "03:18:59", "end": "03:19:02", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "03:19:04", "end": "03:19:07", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "03:19:10", "end": "03:19:13", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "03:19:11", "end": "03:19:16", "text": "Inshah."}, {"start": "03:19:13", "end": "03:19:16", "text": "Yo,"}, {"start": "03:19:19", "end": "03:19:23", "text": "I couldn't say it better myself. How"}, {"start": "03:19:21", "end": "03:19:26", "text": "will the loss of Venezuelan and Iranian"}, {"start": "03:19:23", "end": "03:19:29", "text": "oil affect China? Let's assume that that"}, {"start": "03:19:26", "end": "03:19:31", "text": "is the case and that that does happen."}, {"start": "03:19:29", "end": "03:19:34", "text": "Then it would not be good for China. It"}, {"start": "03:19:31", "end": "03:19:36", "text": "would not be good for their prospects of"}, {"start": "03:19:34", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "launching a war against Taiwan is my"}, {"start": "03:19:36", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "initial thought. Um,"}, {"start": "03:19:42", "end": "03:19:49", "text": "so if I'm China, you just you increase"}, {"start": "03:19:45", "end": "03:19:52", "text": "your oil from pipelines from Russia. But"}, {"start": "03:19:49", "end": "03:19:56", "text": "there are downsides and upsides to that"}, {"start": "03:19:52", "end": "03:19:57", "text": "as well. Oil tankers avoiding vital horm"}, {"start": "03:19:56", "end": "03:19:59", "text": "straight. Uh, we'll take a look at the"}, {"start": "03:19:57", "end": "03:20:03", "text": "live conflict map. We'll go back to this"}, {"start": "03:19:59", "end": "03:20:07", "text": "bad boy and see what what what the fresh"}, {"start": "03:20:03", "end": "03:20:07", "text": "pull brings us today."}, {"start": "03:20:08", "end": "03:20:13", "text": "Air strike on Mand industrial city, East"}, {"start": "03:20:11", "end": "03:20:16", "text": "Azerjan province. It was targeted during"}, {"start": "03:20:13", "end": "03:20:20", "text": "the 12-day war II."}, {"start": "03:20:16", "end": "03:20:22", "text": "And the air strikes in Thrron are"}, {"start": "03:20:20", "end": "03:20:25", "text": "this is what Israel is claiming"}, {"start": "03:20:22", "end": "03:20:29", "text": "decapitated the the their military"}, {"start": "03:20:25", "end": "03:20:33", "text": "already. uh the is Islamic forces,"}, {"start": "03:20:29", "end": "03:20:33", "text": "Islamic Republic"}, {"start": "03:20:43", "end": "03:20:47", "text": "world leader. A lot of people are"}, {"start": "03:20:44", "end": "03:20:48", "text": "wondering what how this is going to in a"}, {"start": "03:20:47", "end": "03:20:50", "text": "geopolitical sense what impact this is"}, {"start": "03:20:48", "end": "03:20:53", "text": "going to have. World leaders are split"}, {"start": "03:20:50", "end": "03:20:57", "text": "over military action as US Israel strike"}, {"start": "03:20:53", "end": "03:21:00", "text": "against Iran is incoordinated operation."}, {"start": "03:20:57", "end": "03:21:00", "text": "So"}, {"start": "03:21:02", "end": "03:21:05", "text": "world leaders reacted swiftly Saturday"}, {"start": "03:21:04", "end": "03:21:07", "text": "after the United States and Israel"}, {"start": "03:21:05", "end": "03:21:09", "text": "launched strikes in Iran, exposing a"}, {"start": "03:21:07", "end": "03:21:11", "text": "deep divide between governments backing"}, {"start": "03:21:09", "end": "03:21:14", "text": "the attack on Iran and those warning the"}, {"start": "03:21:11", "end": "03:21:17", "text": "attacks risk a wider regional war."}, {"start": "03:21:14", "end": "03:21:20", "text": "I think largely what we'll see if this"}, {"start": "03:21:17", "end": "03:21:22", "text": "turns into a wider regional war it would"}, {"start": "03:21:20", "end": "03:21:25", "text": "have to be backed by Russia and China"}, {"start": "03:21:22", "end": "03:21:27", "text": "likely. So what do you think is the"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:29", "text": "likelihood of Iran, Russia, China laid"}, {"start": "03:21:27", "end": "03:21:31", "text": "mines on the seabed in Iran straight"}, {"start": "03:21:29", "end": "03:21:34", "text": "over moose?"}, {"start": "03:21:31", "end": "03:21:36", "text": "It would not be in China's interest for"}, {"start": "03:21:34", "end": "03:21:38", "text": "them to do that. So I would doubt that"}, {"start": "03:21:36", "end": "03:21:40", "text": "Iran would do that because that's kind"}, {"start": "03:21:38", "end": "03:21:43", "text": "of their their biggest supporter right"}, {"start": "03:21:40", "end": "03:21:46", "text": "now and it would shut down oil supplies."}, {"start": "03:21:43", "end": "03:21:48", "text": "So, but I don't know. I don't know. Did"}, {"start": "03:21:46", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "they do it? It's very possible. In a"}, {"start": "03:21:48", "end": "03:21:52", "text": "joint statement, Canada's prime minister"}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:55", "text": "and foreign minister uh supporting"}, {"start": "03:21:52", "end": "03:21:57", "text": "saying Canada supports the United States"}, {"start": "03:21:55", "end": "03:22:00", "text": "acting to prevent Turn off the desktop"}, {"start": "03:21:57", "end": "03:22:03", "text": "audio so you don't have to hear"}, {"start": "03:22:00", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "that."}, {"start": "03:22:03", "end": "03:22:07", "text": "Okay, desktop audio is turned off. Um"}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "and it supports the United States acting"}, {"start": "03:22:07", "end": "03:22:11", "text": "to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:13", "text": "weapon and to prevent its regime from"}, {"start": "03:22:11", "end": "03:22:15", "text": "further threatening international peace"}, {"start": "03:22:13", "end": "03:22:17", "text": "and security. Statement described Iran"}, {"start": "03:22:15", "end": "03:22:18", "text": "as the principal source of instability"}, {"start": "03:22:17", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "and terror throughout the Middle East"}, {"start": "03:22:18", "end": "03:22:24", "text": "and stressed it must never be allowed to"}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:26", "text": "obtain or develop nuclear weapons."}, {"start": "03:22:24", "end": "03:22:28", "text": "Australian prime minister also endorsed"}, {"start": "03:22:26", "end": "03:22:31", "text": "the action writing on X. So Australia,"}, {"start": "03:22:28", "end": "03:22:34", "text": "our boys down south are down with us."}, {"start": "03:22:31", "end": "03:22:36", "text": "They're down to clown. Love my allies in"}, {"start": "03:22:34", "end": "03:22:38", "text": "Australia. The United Kingdom said Iran"}, {"start": "03:22:36", "end": "03:22:41", "text": "must never be allowed to develop a"}, {"start": "03:22:38", "end": "03:22:43", "text": "nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "03:22:41", "end": "03:22:45", "text": "French President Macron warned that the"}, {"start": "03:22:43", "end": "03:22:47", "text": "outbreak of war between the United"}, {"start": "03:22:45", "end": "03:22:50", "text": "States, Israel, and Iran carries grave"}, {"start": "03:22:47", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "consequences for international peace and"}, {"start": "03:22:50", "end": "03:22:55", "text": "security. The ongoing escalation is"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:58", "text": "dangerous for all. It must stop. And"}, {"start": "03:22:55", "end": "03:23:01", "text": "called for an urgent meeting of United"}, {"start": "03:22:58", "end": "03:23:02", "text": "Nations Security Council. In a joint"}, {"start": "03:23:01", "end": "03:23:03", "text": "statement, the leaders of France,"}, {"start": "03:23:02", "end": "03:23:06", "text": "Germany, and United Kingdom also said"}, {"start": "03:23:03", "end": "03:23:09", "text": "that they had consistently urged Iranian"}, {"start": "03:23:06", "end": "03:23:12", "text": "regime to end Iran's nuclear program and"}, {"start": "03:23:09", "end": "03:23:14", "text": "to curb their ballistic missile program."}, {"start": "03:23:12", "end": "03:23:16", "text": "I think Iran overplayed their hand in"}, {"start": "03:23:14", "end": "03:23:19", "text": "the Middle East. If you ask me, I think"}, {"start": "03:23:16", "end": "03:23:20", "text": "Iran thought October 7th was going to"}, {"start": "03:23:19", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "have the same effect that these"}, {"start": "03:23:20", "end": "03:23:25", "text": "operations are now having against Iran."}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:26", "text": "And I think that they had blowback just"}, {"start": "03:23:25", "end": "03:23:29", "text": "like the United States had some serious"}, {"start": "03:23:26", "end": "03:23:31", "text": "blowback from a lot of their CIA"}, {"start": "03:23:29", "end": "03:23:33", "text": "supported operations that we would look"}, {"start": "03:23:31", "end": "03:23:36", "text": "at today and be like, \"Hey, CIA probably"}, {"start": "03:23:33", "end": "03:23:38", "text": "shouldn't have done that.\" I think that"}, {"start": "03:23:36", "end": "03:23:40", "text": "Iran's Cuds force, you know, their"}, {"start": "03:23:38", "end": "03:23:43", "text": "version of the CIA went supported"}, {"start": "03:23:40", "end": "03:23:45", "text": "October 7th and they're now experiencing"}, {"start": "03:23:43", "end": "03:23:47", "text": "some of the"}, {"start": "03:23:45", "end": "03:23:49", "text": "most significant blowback that you can"}, {"start": "03:23:47", "end": "03:23:51", "text": "have from"}, {"start": "03:23:49", "end": "03:23:53", "text": "dillydallying another country's affairs"}, {"start": "03:23:51", "end": "03:23:55", "text": "and trying to overthrow or trying to"}, {"start": "03:23:53", "end": "03:23:58", "text": "trying to mess up Israel, trying to"}, {"start": "03:23:55", "end": "03:24:01", "text": "really put an end to Israel with that"}, {"start": "03:23:58", "end": "03:24:03", "text": "attack. That's just my opinion, though."}, {"start": "03:24:01", "end": "03:24:06", "text": "You guys can hold different opinions and"}, {"start": "03:24:03", "end": "03:24:07", "text": "I I'm you know they could be valid and I"}, {"start": "03:24:06", "end": "03:24:11", "text": "could be wrong. I'm just giving you my"}, {"start": "03:24:07", "end": "03:24:13", "text": "average infrared belief. US and Israel"}, {"start": "03:24:11", "end": "03:24:16", "text": "are shutting down the Iranian government"}, {"start": "03:24:13", "end": "03:24:17", "text": "hard zoot zoot. Remember when France got"}, {"start": "03:24:16", "end": "03:24:19", "text": "pissy because the Aussies didn't want"}, {"start": "03:24:17", "end": "03:24:22", "text": "their outdated diesel submarines"}, {"start": "03:24:19", "end": "03:24:22", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "03:24:22", "end": "03:24:26", "text": "Okay, this this I don't know if this is"}, {"start": "03:24:24", "end": "03:24:28", "text": "real or not, but there's been"}, {"start": "03:24:26", "end": "03:24:30", "text": "unconfirmed footage that's circulating"}, {"start": "03:24:28", "end": "03:24:33", "text": "that allegedly shows Israeli fighter jet"}, {"start": "03:24:30", "end": "03:24:35", "text": "down by Iranian air defense. We don't"}, {"start": "03:24:33", "end": "03:24:37", "text": "know if this is real or not. We don't"}, {"start": "03:24:35", "end": "03:24:41", "text": "know if this is AI generated or old"}, {"start": "03:24:37", "end": "03:24:41", "text": "footage. Um,"}, {"start": "03:24:47", "end": "03:24:50", "text": "we don't know if that's an Israeli jet."}, {"start": "03:24:49", "end": "03:24:52", "text": "Could be a different jet. We don't know"}, {"start": "03:24:50", "end": "03:24:54", "text": "yet."}, {"start": "03:24:52", "end": "03:24:56", "text": "Saudi Arabia is burning and we did not"}, {"start": "03:24:54", "end": "03:24:58", "text": "wrong them, but they were wronging"}, {"start": "03:24:56", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "themselves. The Iranian drones"}, {"start": "03:24:58", "end": "03:25:02", "text": "participating in striking the American"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:04", "text": "bases in the Gulf."}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:06", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "03:25:04", "end": "03:25:11", "text": "I cannot I have not vetted this. I don't"}, {"start": "03:25:06", "end": "03:25:11", "text": "know for certain if this is the case."}, {"start": "03:25:17", "end": "03:25:21", "text": "More cruise missiles."}, {"start": "03:25:23", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "I don't know if you can see that on"}, {"start": "03:25:24", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "screen."}, {"start": "03:25:32", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "The US and Israeli Air Force are"}, {"start": "03:25:33", "end": "03:25:38", "text": "carrying out air strikes. You can see"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:43", "text": "the the aftermath here of those of that."}, {"start": "03:25:38", "end": "03:25:43", "text": "Whoa. Damn."}, {"start": "03:25:43", "end": "03:25:48", "text": "Dang. Oh, he's backing up. He's backing"}, {"start": "03:25:46", "end": "03:25:50", "text": "up fast. I would put that in reverse,"}, {"start": "03:25:48", "end": "03:25:52", "text": "too. Some people are saying some of"}, {"start": "03:25:50", "end": "03:25:54", "text": "that's fake."}, {"start": "03:25:52", "end": "03:25:59", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "03:25:54", "end": "03:25:59", "text": "let's see what Kier Styr has to say."}, {"start": "03:26:25", "end": "03:26:30", "text": "So, somebody was asking about how this"}, {"start": "03:26:27", "end": "03:26:32", "text": "might affect the UK and the UK's"}, {"start": "03:26:30", "end": "03:26:35", "text": "involvement, and it looks like the"}, {"start": "03:26:32", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "British are their aircraft are involved"}, {"start": "03:26:35", "end": "03:26:39", "text": "in this strike as well. So, the"}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:43", "text": "coalition of the willing has been"}, {"start": "03:26:39", "end": "03:26:47", "text": "rebooted. Part two, the sequel. This"}, {"start": "03:26:43", "end": "03:26:47", "text": "time we're serious."}, {"start": "03:26:50", "end": "03:26:56", "text": "So, this attack on Iran is defensive"}, {"start": "03:26:53", "end": "03:26:56", "text": "operation."}, {"start": "03:26:58", "end": "03:27:02", "text": "That part I buy. I do buy that it's in"}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:04", "text": "our interests. I don't know that it's"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "defensive, but I would say that it's in"}, {"start": "03:27:04", "end": "03:27:09", "text": "US interests for the regime to fall or"}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:10", "text": "collapse and destabilize. I could be"}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:13", "text": "wrong though and I could eat those"}, {"start": "03:27:10", "end": "03:27:13", "text": "words."}, {"start": "03:27:32", "end": "03:27:37", "text": "I don't know if somebody can link me"}, {"start": "03:27:34", "end": "03:27:39", "text": "where that full talk is. Oh, right,"}, {"start": "03:27:37", "end": "03:27:41", "text": "right, right. Let me sorry. So I'm just"}, {"start": "03:27:39", "end": "03:27:42", "text": "you guys are just having to I'm sorry."}, {"start": "03:27:41", "end": "03:27:43", "text": "I'll play that again."}, {"start": "03:27:42", "end": "03:27:44", "text": "And solidarity to them."}, {"start": "03:27:43", "end": "03:27:47", "text": "Sorry."}, {"start": "03:27:44", "end": "03:27:48", "text": "Our support and solidarity to them."}, {"start": "03:27:47", "end": "03:27:50", "text": "Can you hear now?"}, {"start": "03:27:48", "end": "03:27:53", "text": "As part of our commitment to the"}, {"start": "03:27:50", "end": "03:27:56", "text": "security of our allies. Our support and"}, {"start": "03:27:53", "end": "03:27:58", "text": "solidarity to them."}, {"start": "03:27:56", "end": "03:28:01", "text": "As part of our commitments to the"}, {"start": "03:27:58", "end": "03:28:04", "text": "security of our allies in the Middle"}, {"start": "03:28:01", "end": "03:28:08", "text": "East, we have a range of defensive"}, {"start": "03:28:04", "end": "03:28:09", "text": "capabilities in the region. which we've"}, {"start": "03:28:08", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "recently strengthened."}, {"start": "03:28:09", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "If somebody can link me"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:13", "text": "our forces"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:17", "text": "the full chat for this"}, {"start": "03:28:13", "end": "03:28:21", "text": "and British planes are in the sky today"}, {"start": "03:28:17", "end": "03:28:23", "text": "as part of coordinated regional"}, {"start": "03:28:21", "end": "03:28:27", "text": "defensive operations"}, {"start": "03:28:23", "end": "03:28:29", "text": "to protect our people, our interests,"}, {"start": "03:28:27", "end": "03:28:32", "text": "and our allies"}, {"start": "03:28:29", "end": "03:28:35", "text": "as Britain has done before."}, {"start": "03:28:32", "end": "03:28:37", "text": "In line with international law,"}, {"start": "03:28:35", "end": "03:28:41", "text": "we've stepped up protections for British"}, {"start": "03:28:37", "end": "03:28:42", "text": "bases and personnel to their highest"}, {"start": "03:28:41", "end": "03:28:45", "text": "level."}, {"start": "03:28:42", "end": "03:28:48", "text": "We are also reaching out to UK nationals"}, {"start": "03:28:45", "end": "03:28:52", "text": "in the region and doing everything we"}, {"start": "03:28:48", "end": "03:28:53", "text": "can to support them. Our support."}, {"start": "03:28:52", "end": "03:28:57", "text": "All right. Now, I'm going to try to find"}, {"start": "03:28:53", "end": "03:29:00", "text": "the full Oh, damn. I'm getting I'm like"}, {"start": "03:28:57", "end": "03:29:02", "text": "an I got ADD. Like I as soon as I try to"}, {"start": "03:29:00", "end": "03:29:04", "text": "watch the diplomatic happenings, there's"}, {"start": "03:29:02", "end": "03:29:06", "text": "suddenly cruise missiles are flying in"}, {"start": "03:29:04", "end": "03:29:09", "text": "the sky. Like I can't look away from"}, {"start": "03:29:06", "end": "03:29:09", "text": "cruise missiles."}, {"start": "03:29:15", "end": "03:29:20", "text": "Guys, we've seen combat footage from"}, {"start": "03:29:18", "end": "03:29:22", "text": "Ukraine for a long time and it's always"}, {"start": "03:29:20", "end": "03:29:24", "text": "got a certain type of uh Eastern"}, {"start": "03:29:22", "end": "03:29:27", "text": "European dubstep. And now we're going to"}, {"start": "03:29:24", "end": "03:29:31", "text": "find out what type of rock music America"}, {"start": "03:29:27", "end": "03:29:31", "text": "puts over their combat footage."}, {"start": "03:29:32", "end": "03:29:39", "text": "You see there cruise missiles flying nap"}, {"start": "03:29:35", "end": "03:29:39", "text": "of the earth flying low"}, {"start": "03:29:40", "end": "03:29:44", "text": "all on top of each other. That's nuts. I"}, {"start": "03:29:42", "end": "03:29:46", "text": "have personally have never seen anything"}, {"start": "03:29:44", "end": "03:29:49", "text": "like that before. That many cruise"}, {"start": "03:29:46", "end": "03:29:54", "text": "missiles all on top of each other."}, {"start": "03:29:49", "end": "03:29:54", "text": "This is an old video I think."}, {"start": "03:30:14", "end": "03:30:18", "text": "All right, let's see if we can find"}, {"start": "03:30:16", "end": "03:30:20", "text": "breaking S300 air defense battery"}, {"start": "03:30:18", "end": "03:30:23", "text": "identified"}, {"start": "03:30:20", "end": "03:30:26", "text": "at anthropic HQ. Q"}, {"start": "03:30:23", "end": "03:30:29", "text": "insane video shows US tomahawks. Those"}, {"start": "03:30:26", "end": "03:30:31", "text": "are insane. Uh look like tomahawks with"}, {"start": "03:30:29", "end": "03:30:33", "text": "inverted wings. Somebody pointed out."}, {"start": "03:30:31", "end": "03:30:34", "text": "I'm not actually a tomahawk expert, but"}, {"start": "03:30:33", "end": "03:30:36", "text": "maybe they're using some type of new"}, {"start": "03:30:34", "end": "03:30:39", "text": "tomahawk technology."}, {"start": "03:30:36", "end": "03:30:39", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:30:40", "end": "03:30:45", "text": "timing of USIsrael attack on Iran bears"}, {"start": "03:30:42", "end": "03:30:49", "text": "symbolic meaning."}, {"start": "03:30:45", "end": "03:30:53", "text": "All right. What I want to find is"}, {"start": "03:30:49", "end": "03:30:54", "text": "says they will join the US. Oh, damn."}, {"start": "03:30:53", "end": "03:30:56", "text": "Listen to this, guys."}, {"start": "03:30:54", "end": "03:30:58", "text": "Say is new right now. We're just getting"}, {"start": "03:30:56", "end": "03:31:01", "text": "word that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia"}, {"start": "03:30:58", "end": "03:31:03", "text": "says they will join the US in an op in"}, {"start": "03:31:01", "end": "03:31:06", "text": "the operation against the Islamic"}, {"start": "03:31:03", "end": "03:31:08", "text": "Republic of Iran. They said"}, {"start": "03:31:06", "end": "03:31:11", "text": "that is huge. I mean, what we're talking"}, {"start": "03:31:08", "end": "03:31:14", "text": "about is seeing these two states that"}, {"start": "03:31:11", "end": "03:31:16", "text": "have been in a proxy war with each other"}, {"start": "03:31:14", "end": "03:31:18", "text": "are now entering into direct conflict"}, {"start": "03:31:16", "end": "03:31:20", "text": "with one another. Saudi Arabia and Iran"}, {"start": "03:31:18", "end": "03:31:22", "text": "are, you know, Saudi Arabia is now"}, {"start": "03:31:20", "end": "03:31:26", "text": "attacking Iran, which is"}, {"start": "03:31:22", "end": "03:31:29", "text": "that this in the wake of Iran attacking"}, {"start": "03:31:26", "end": "03:31:31", "text": "the US base in Saudi Arabia. U I just"}, {"start": "03:31:29", "end": "03:31:33", "text": "spoke to a senior US official who said"}, {"start": "03:31:31", "end": "03:31:36", "text": "the Iranians made a big mistake by"}, {"start": "03:31:33", "end": "03:31:39", "text": "firing on Arab coalition partners. Now"}, {"start": "03:31:36", "end": "03:31:42", "text": "they are likely to respond. So by Iran"}, {"start": "03:31:39", "end": "03:31:45", "text": "firing missiles at UAE, Bahrain, Qatar,"}, {"start": "03:31:42", "end": "03:31:48", "text": "Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, they"}, {"start": "03:31:45", "end": "03:31:50", "text": "are now likely to fire back at Iranian"}, {"start": "03:31:48", "end": "03:31:53", "text": "targets. So those coalition partners are"}, {"start": "03:31:50", "end": "03:31:55", "text": "now going to enter uh this oper"}, {"start": "03:31:53", "end": "03:31:58", "text": "operation that started off as a"}, {"start": "03:31:55", "end": "03:32:00", "text": "USIsraeli operation that"}, {"start": "03:31:58", "end": "03:32:02", "text": "one of the commenters asked if this was"}, {"start": "03:32:00", "end": "03:32:05", "text": "going to pull in other allies in the"}, {"start": "03:32:02", "end": "03:32:08", "text": "region. And um sorry I just turned off"}, {"start": "03:32:05", "end": "03:32:10", "text": "the Discord sound so you won't have to"}, {"start": "03:32:08", "end": "03:32:13", "text": "hear that again. But yes, it is now"}, {"start": "03:32:10", "end": "03:32:16", "text": "clear that other allies in the region"}, {"start": "03:32:13", "end": "03:32:20", "text": "are getting pulled in. Um the war is"}, {"start": "03:32:16", "end": "03:32:22", "text": "expanding. It's now it's a regional war."}, {"start": "03:32:20", "end": "03:32:24", "text": "Damage visible at Kuwait International"}, {"start": "03:32:22", "end": "03:32:26", "text": "Airport following Iranian ballistic"}, {"start": "03:32:24", "end": "03:32:27", "text": "missile attacks. This is the Kuwait"}, {"start": "03:32:26", "end": "03:32:29", "text": "International Airport that you're"}, {"start": "03:32:27", "end": "03:32:35", "text": "looking at right here. We're seeing more"}, {"start": "03:32:29", "end": "03:32:35", "text": "from Funker 530. Here"}, {"start": "03:32:41", "end": "03:32:45", "text": "is habitual line crosser. I really"}, {"start": "03:32:43", "end": "03:32:48", "text": "recommend you follow him. He's a former"}, {"start": "03:32:45", "end": "03:32:50", "text": "patriot battery soldier and he has know"}, {"start": "03:32:48", "end": "03:32:52", "text": "he has knowledge about uh air defense."}, {"start": "03:32:50", "end": "03:32:53", "text": "To my air defenders out there, you know"}, {"start": "03:32:52", "end": "03:32:55", "text": "what to do. Many of you have trained"}, {"start": "03:32:53", "end": "03:32:57", "text": "your entire career for this moment. Keep"}, {"start": "03:32:55", "end": "03:32:59", "text": "your head in the game. If a leaker gets"}, {"start": "03:32:57", "end": "03:33:01", "text": "through, a leaker meaning, I guess, a"}, {"start": "03:32:59", "end": "03:33:03", "text": "ballistic missile that gets through. Uh,"}, {"start": "03:33:01", "end": "03:33:05", "text": "but you are still functional. [ __ ] it."}, {"start": "03:33:03", "end": "03:33:07", "text": "You have a job to do. We can deal with"}, {"start": "03:33:05", "end": "03:33:09", "text": "it later. As long as there are birds on"}, {"start": "03:33:07", "end": "03:33:12", "text": "the rails and breath in your lungs, and"}, {"start": "03:33:09", "end": "03:33:16", "text": "you don't give a blanking inch, God luck"}, {"start": "03:33:12", "end": "03:33:21", "text": "and God speed. Give that like"}, {"start": "03:33:16", "end": "03:33:21", "text": "and we'll give him a hell yeah, brother."}, {"start": "03:33:26", "end": "03:33:29", "text": "Called it. What did I say about wider"}, {"start": "03:33:27", "end": "03:33:32", "text": "regional alliance against Iran? You,"}, {"start": "03:33:29", "end": "03:33:34", "text": "sir, were correct. Yes, that is exactly"}, {"start": "03:33:32", "end": "03:33:37", "text": "what is happening. Um I was thinking"}, {"start": "03:33:34", "end": "03:33:39", "text": "just the UK and actually I I'm not even"}, {"start": "03:33:37", "end": "03:33:43", "text": "going to defend myself. Uh you you"}, {"start": "03:33:39", "end": "03:33:43", "text": "called it um"}, {"start": "03:33:46", "end": "03:33:50", "text": "born too late to deploy to the Middle"}, {"start": "03:33:48", "end": "03:33:53", "text": "East. Born too early to deploy to the"}, {"start": "03:33:50", "end": "03:33:56", "text": "Middle East. Born just in time to deploy"}, {"start": "03:33:53", "end": "03:34:01", "text": "to the Middle East."}, {"start": "03:33:56", "end": "03:34:05", "text": "And so what I want to look at now is"}, {"start": "03:34:01", "end": "03:34:11", "text": "Cure Starmer's uh full speech. If we can"}, {"start": "03:34:05", "end": "03:34:11", "text": "get that up and try to find that"}, {"start": "03:34:19", "end": "03:34:23", "text": "here we go. We got it."}, {"start": "03:34:27", "end": "03:34:34", "text": "Earlier this morning, the United States"}, {"start": "03:34:29", "end": "03:34:36", "text": "and Israel struck targets in Iran."}, {"start": "03:34:34", "end": "03:34:40", "text": "Iran has since launched indiscriminate"}, {"start": "03:34:36", "end": "03:34:42", "text": "strikes across the region."}, {"start": "03:34:40", "end": "03:34:46", "text": "I know the British people and"}, {"start": "03:34:42", "end": "03:34:50", "text": "communities across our country will be"}, {"start": "03:34:46", "end": "03:34:53", "text": "deeply concerned about what this means"}, {"start": "03:34:50", "end": "03:34:55", "text": "for security and stability"}, {"start": "03:34:53", "end": "03:34:57", "text": "and for the fate of innocent people"}, {"start": "03:34:55", "end": "03:35:00", "text": "across the region"}, {"start": "03:34:57", "end": "03:35:03", "text": "which for so many of us includes friends"}, {"start": "03:35:00", "end": "03:35:05", "text": "and family members."}, {"start": "03:35:03", "end": "03:35:07", "text": "So whilst the situation is evolving very"}, {"start": "03:35:05", "end": "03:35:11", "text": "quickly,"}, {"start": "03:35:07", "end": "03:35:14", "text": "I want to set out our response."}, {"start": "03:35:11", "end": "03:35:16", "text": "The United Kingdom played no role in"}, {"start": "03:35:14", "end": "03:35:20", "text": "these strikes,"}, {"start": "03:35:16", "end": "03:35:23", "text": "but we have long been clear. The regime"}, {"start": "03:35:20", "end": "03:35:26", "text": "in Iran is utterly abhorrent."}, {"start": "03:35:23", "end": "03:35:29", "text": "They have murdered thousands of their"}, {"start": "03:35:26", "end": "03:35:33", "text": "own people, brutally crushed descent,"}, {"start": "03:35:29", "end": "03:35:37", "text": "and sought to destabilize the region."}, {"start": "03:35:33", "end": "03:35:40", "text": "Even in the United Kingdom, the Iranian"}, {"start": "03:35:37", "end": "03:35:44", "text": "regime poses a direct threat to"}, {"start": "03:35:40", "end": "03:35:47", "text": "dissident and to the Jewish community."}, {"start": "03:35:44", "end": "03:35:50", "text": "Over the last year alone, they have"}, {"start": "03:35:47", "end": "03:35:54", "text": "backed more than 20 potentially lethal"}, {"start": "03:35:50", "end": "03:35:58", "text": "attacks on UK soil."}, {"start": "03:35:54", "end": "03:36:00", "text": "So, it is clear they must never"}, {"start": "03:35:58", "end": "03:36:03", "text": "I'm actually not aware of that. I didn't"}, {"start": "03:36:00", "end": "03:36:04", "text": "realize that they backed"}, {"start": "03:36:03", "end": "03:36:09", "text": "they have backed more than 20"}, {"start": "03:36:04", "end": "03:36:11", "text": "potentially lethal attacks on UK soil."}, {"start": "03:36:09", "end": "03:36:13", "text": "I'm not sure what he means by that. I'm"}, {"start": "03:36:11", "end": "03:36:16", "text": "not plugged into the UK defense space"}, {"start": "03:36:13", "end": "03:36:18", "text": "perfectly, I guess. Um I'm guessing he's"}, {"start": "03:36:16", "end": "03:36:20", "text": "talking about potential terror attacks"}, {"start": "03:36:18", "end": "03:36:24", "text": "that have happened in the UK."}, {"start": "03:36:20", "end": "03:36:29", "text": "So it is clear they must never be"}, {"start": "03:36:24", "end": "03:36:31", "text": "allowed to develop a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "03:36:29", "end": "03:36:36", "text": "That remains the primary aim of the"}, {"start": "03:36:31", "end": "03:36:38", "text": "United Kingdom and our allies."}, {"start": "03:36:36", "end": "03:36:41", "text": "People in the chat do not seem to like"}, {"start": "03:36:38", "end": "03:36:43", "text": "Kier Starmer, but I got to say, how does"}, {"start": "03:36:41", "end": "03:36:47", "text": "he have a hairline like that? How does"}, {"start": "03:36:43", "end": "03:36:49", "text": "bro, you know what? I might do toupe. I"}, {"start": "03:36:47", "end": "03:36:51", "text": "might How does bro have a perfect"}, {"start": "03:36:49", "end": "03:36:55", "text": "hairline like that? That salt and pepper"}, {"start": "03:36:51", "end": "03:36:55", "text": "look. Where do you get that?"}, {"start": "03:36:57", "end": "03:37:05", "text": "including the US."}, {"start": "03:37:01", "end": "03:37:07", "text": "I condemn Iran's attacks today on"}, {"start": "03:37:05", "end": "03:37:10", "text": "partners across the region,"}, {"start": "03:37:07", "end": "03:37:12", "text": "many of which are not parties to this"}, {"start": "03:37:10", "end": "03:37:15", "text": "conflict."}, {"start": "03:37:12", "end": "03:37:19", "text": "We extend our support and solidarity to"}, {"start": "03:37:15", "end": "03:37:22", "text": "them. As part of our commitments to the"}, {"start": "03:37:19", "end": "03:37:25", "text": "security of our allies in the Middle"}, {"start": "03:37:22", "end": "03:37:29", "text": "East, we have a range of defensive"}, {"start": "03:37:25", "end": "03:37:32", "text": "capabilities in the region which we've"}, {"start": "03:37:29", "end": "03:37:34", "text": "recently strengthened."}, {"start": "03:37:32", "end": "03:37:39", "text": "Our forces are active"}, {"start": "03:37:34", "end": "03:37:42", "text": "and British planes are in the sky today"}, {"start": "03:37:39", "end": "03:37:44", "text": "as part of coordinated regional"}, {"start": "03:37:42", "end": "03:37:45", "text": "uh Zalinsky has a statement up on"}, {"start": "03:37:44", "end": "03:37:48", "text": "official channels now. Okay, we'll look"}, {"start": "03:37:45", "end": "03:37:50", "text": "at Zink Zinsk's statement next."}, {"start": "03:37:48", "end": "03:37:51", "text": "Defensive operations."}, {"start": "03:37:50", "end": "03:37:55", "text": "This is only another minute."}, {"start": "03:37:51", "end": "03:37:56", "text": "Our people, our interests, and our"}, {"start": "03:37:55", "end": "03:37:59", "text": "allies,"}, {"start": "03:37:56", "end": "03:38:02", "text": "as Britain has done before,"}, {"start": "03:37:59", "end": "03:38:04", "text": "in line with international law."}, {"start": "03:38:02", "end": "03:38:08", "text": "We've stepped up protections for British"}, {"start": "03:38:04", "end": "03:38:09", "text": "bases and personnel to their highest"}, {"start": "03:38:08", "end": "03:38:12", "text": "level."}, {"start": "03:38:09", "end": "03:38:15", "text": "We are also reaching out to UK nationals"}, {"start": "03:38:12", "end": "03:38:19", "text": "in the region and doing everything we"}, {"start": "03:38:15", "end": "03:38:22", "text": "can to support them."}, {"start": "03:38:19", "end": "03:38:22", "text": "I've been speaking with leaders today"}, {"start": "03:38:22", "end": "03:38:23", "text": "from"}, {"start": "03:38:22", "end": "03:38:24", "text": "Okay, I think we already heard the rest"}, {"start": "03:38:23", "end": "03:38:26", "text": "of across the region."}, {"start": "03:38:24", "end": "03:38:29", "text": "Oh, no. We didn't hear this, did we?"}, {"start": "03:38:26", "end": "03:38:31", "text": "It is vital that we prevent further"}, {"start": "03:38:29", "end": "03:38:35", "text": "escalation"}, {"start": "03:38:31", "end": "03:38:39", "text": "and return to a diplomatic process."}, {"start": "03:38:35", "end": "03:38:42", "text": "We want to see peace and security and"}, {"start": "03:38:39", "end": "03:38:46", "text": "the protection of civilian life."}, {"start": "03:38:42", "end": "03:38:49", "text": "Iran can end this now. They should"}, {"start": "03:38:46", "end": "03:38:52", "text": "refrain from further strikes, give up"}, {"start": "03:38:49", "end": "03:38:54", "text": "their weapons programs,"}, {"start": "03:38:52", "end": "03:38:58", "text": "and cease the appalling violence and"}, {"start": "03:38:54", "end": "03:39:01", "text": "repression against the Iranian people"}, {"start": "03:38:58", "end": "03:39:03", "text": "who deserve the right to determine their"}, {"start": "03:39:01", "end": "03:39:06", "text": "own future in line with our"}, {"start": "03:39:03", "end": "03:39:10", "text": "long-standing position."}, {"start": "03:39:06", "end": "03:39:14", "text": "This is the route to deescalation"}, {"start": "03:39:10", "end": "03:39:17", "text": "and back to the negotiating table."}, {"start": "03:39:14", "end": "03:39:17", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "03:39:19", "end": "03:39:23", "text": "So, we're going to take a look at"}, {"start": "03:39:20", "end": "03:39:25", "text": "Zillinsk's statement if it's true that"}, {"start": "03:39:23", "end": "03:39:27", "text": "there is one"}, {"start": "03:39:25", "end": "03:39:31", "text": "on this episode of what's going on with"}, {"start": "03:39:27", "end": "03:39:31", "text": "shipping is"}, {"start": "03:39:32", "end": "03:39:40", "text": "somebody said that Zalinsky made a"}, {"start": "03:39:34", "end": "03:39:40", "text": "statement on this, but I don't see it."}, {"start": "03:39:48", "end": "03:39:53", "text": "Okay, here we go. From our friends over"}, {"start": "03:39:50", "end": "03:39:53", "text": "at RT,"}, {"start": "03:40:01", "end": "03:40:06", "text": "not in English, but he's saying uh it's"}, {"start": "03:40:04", "end": "03:40:08", "text": "fair to give the Iranian people a chance"}, {"start": "03:40:06", "end": "03:40:10", "text": "to get rid of the terrorist regime, said"}, {"start": "03:40:08", "end": "03:40:12", "text": "Zalinski. It's important to save as many"}, {"start": "03:40:10", "end": "03:40:14", "text": "lives as possible. It's important to"}, {"start": "03:40:12", "end": "03:40:18", "text": "prevent the war from expanding. Uh,"}, {"start": "03:40:14", "end": "03:40:21", "text": "according to Zalinski"}, {"start": "03:40:18", "end": "03:40:24", "text": "breaking, Zalinski calls Iran strikes"}, {"start": "03:40:21", "end": "03:40:26", "text": "fair to overthrow regime."}, {"start": "03:40:24", "end": "03:40:28", "text": "They're saying the hypocrisy while"}, {"start": "03:40:26", "end": "03:40:30", "text": "Ukraine cries over Russian attacks."}, {"start": "03:40:28", "end": "03:40:31", "text": "They're saying that that's hypo"}, {"start": "03:40:30", "end": "03:40:34", "text": "hypocritical of him to say. Zullinsky"}, {"start": "03:40:31", "end": "03:40:36", "text": "cheers USIsraeli bombs on Iran as fair"}, {"start": "03:40:34", "end": "03:40:39", "text": "chance to topple Thrron's terrorist"}, {"start": "03:40:36", "end": "03:40:40", "text": "regime, quote unquote. Same. And this is"}, {"start": "03:40:39", "end": "03:40:43", "text": "the commentary from the Slavic networks."}, {"start": "03:40:40", "end": "03:40:46", "text": "He says the same guy begging for world"}, {"start": "03:40:43", "end": "03:40:50", "text": "help against Russian strikes on Ukraine."}, {"start": "03:40:46", "end": "03:40:52", "text": "Zinsky says it's fair to um this this"}, {"start": "03:40:50", "end": "03:40:53", "text": "pro-Russian account believes that it's a"}, {"start": "03:40:52", "end": "03:40:55", "text": "double standard. Says that Ukraine"}, {"start": "03:40:53", "end": "03:40:57", "text": "demands global solidarity against"}, {"start": "03:40:55", "end": "03:41:01", "text": "aggression but backs attacks on"}, {"start": "03:40:57", "end": "03:41:03", "text": "sovereign Iran. Ignoring. So the the"}, {"start": "03:41:01", "end": "03:41:05", "text": "devil in the detail here would be that"}, {"start": "03:41:03", "end": "03:41:06", "text": "people would claim that that it's not"}, {"start": "03:41:05", "end": "03:41:09", "text": "sovereign and that it's a dictatorship"}, {"start": "03:41:06", "end": "03:41:11", "text": "that oppresses the people. But um the"}, {"start": "03:41:09", "end": "03:41:13", "text": "context that they're claiming this"}, {"start": "03:41:11", "end": "03:41:15", "text": "pro-Russian account says that it comes"}, {"start": "03:41:13", "end": "03:41:18", "text": "right after US joint strikes on simple"}, {"start": "03:41:15", "end": "03:41:20", "text": "global explanation for people who know"}, {"start": "03:41:18", "end": "03:41:24", "text": "nothing about this."}, {"start": "03:41:20", "end": "03:41:24", "text": "Okay. So,"}, {"start": "03:41:40", "end": "03:41:46", "text": "Ron ballistic missile launch here. We"}, {"start": "03:41:43", "end": "03:41:48", "text": "see that looks like it's"}, {"start": "03:41:46", "end": "03:41:50", "text": "in space."}, {"start": "03:41:48", "end": "03:41:53", "text": "[ __ ] is flying through space. Featuring"}, {"start": "03:41:50", "end": "03:41:55", "text": "the space jellyfish effect. That's"}, {"start": "03:41:53", "end": "03:41:57", "text": "sunlight reflecting off the rocket"}, {"start": "03:41:55", "end": "03:42:00", "text": "exhaust in the atmosphere. You're going"}, {"start": "03:41:57", "end": "03:42:03", "text": "to need one of those Chad THAD launchers"}, {"start": "03:42:00", "end": "03:42:03", "text": "to take that out."}, {"start": "03:42:06", "end": "03:42:10", "text": "Here we see the video from inside the"}, {"start": "03:42:08", "end": "03:42:13", "text": "Kuwait airport, Kuwaiti International"}, {"start": "03:42:10", "end": "03:42:14", "text": "Airport."}, {"start": "03:42:13", "end": "03:42:18", "text": "Iran just crossed a line that changes"}, {"start": "03:42:14", "end": "03:42:18", "text": "the entire nature of the conflict."}, {"start": "03:42:22", "end": "03:42:26", "text": "Hey Cappy, you should review this video."}, {"start": "03:42:24", "end": "03:42:30", "text": "Watch predictive history video on Iran"}, {"start": "03:42:26", "end": "03:42:34", "text": "war. He predicted like 95%. Yeah, that"}, {"start": "03:42:30", "end": "03:42:37", "text": "sounds very cool. Uh you could also we"}, {"start": "03:42:34", "end": "03:42:40", "text": "did an episode a week ago that predicted"}, {"start": "03:42:37", "end": "03:42:42", "text": "exactly where the you the strikes would"}, {"start": "03:42:40", "end": "03:42:45", "text": "be against the"}, {"start": "03:42:42", "end": "03:42:47", "text": "the repression element. But check I I"}, {"start": "03:42:45", "end": "03:42:50", "text": "suppose they're a good source as well."}, {"start": "03:42:47", "end": "03:42:53", "text": "My Navy contacts stationed in Saudi and"}, {"start": "03:42:50", "end": "03:42:55", "text": "Bahrain say that the base that bases"}, {"start": "03:42:53", "end": "03:42:57", "text": "that have been hit so far for the most"}, {"start": "03:42:55", "end": "03:43:02", "text": "part were already evacuated in"}, {"start": "03:42:57", "end": "03:43:04", "text": "anticipation of these attacks. So this"}, {"start": "03:43:02", "end": "03:43:06", "text": "inside information, if it is accurate,"}, {"start": "03:43:04", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "claims that these were largely"}, {"start": "03:43:06", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "evacuated."}, {"start": "03:43:12", "end": "03:43:15", "text": "Do you think the board of peace"}, {"start": "03:43:13", "end": "03:43:18", "text": "countries had some sort of limited talks"}, {"start": "03:43:15", "end": "03:43:20", "text": "about this operation?"}, {"start": "03:43:18", "end": "03:43:23", "text": "If I was in the board of pe I mean this"}, {"start": "03:43:20", "end": "03:43:25", "text": "is such a perfectly named board too."}, {"start": "03:43:23", "end": "03:43:27", "text": "Board of peace and then they're planning"}, {"start": "03:43:25", "end": "03:43:31", "text": "this attack. That would be beautiful."}, {"start": "03:43:27", "end": "03:43:37", "text": "Um, I don't know if this is"}, {"start": "03:43:31", "end": "03:43:37", "text": "real or not or if this is AI."}, {"start": "03:43:40", "end": "03:43:46", "text": "Here's air defense uh in in Dubai"}, {"start": "03:43:42", "end": "03:43:48", "text": "intercepting Iranian missiles."}, {"start": "03:43:46", "end": "03:43:52", "text": "Somebody says one less ally for Russia."}, {"start": "03:43:48", "end": "03:43:52", "text": "Have one coming."}, {"start": "03:43:52", "end": "03:43:57", "text": "I'll never understand people standing"}, {"start": "03:43:54", "end": "03:43:59", "text": "out on their balconies videotaping this"}, {"start": "03:43:57", "end": "03:44:01", "text": "for our benefit."}, {"start": "03:43:59", "end": "03:44:04", "text": "Heroic."}, {"start": "03:44:01", "end": "03:44:07", "text": "I I would be inside. I'd be in my"}, {"start": "03:44:04", "end": "03:44:07", "text": "bathtub hiding."}, {"start": "03:44:10", "end": "03:44:15", "text": "There was air raid uh air raid noises,"}, {"start": "03:44:13", "end": "03:44:17", "text": "you know, the signals in Kev the night"}, {"start": "03:44:15", "end": "03:44:20", "text": "that I stayed there. And I I was in the"}, {"start": "03:44:17", "end": "03:44:23", "text": "tub immediately. I was not out like,"}, {"start": "03:44:20", "end": "03:44:26", "text": "\"Let me get this for Twitter.\" But the"}, {"start": "03:44:23", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "cameraman never dies. So, here's from"}, {"start": "03:44:26", "end": "03:44:31", "text": "Preston Preston Stewart. Iran released"}, {"start": "03:44:29", "end": "03:44:35", "text": "video showing some of missiles being"}, {"start": "03:44:31", "end": "03:44:35", "text": "launched at US and Israeli targets."}, {"start": "03:44:36", "end": "03:44:41", "text": "I'm sorry. You can't blur. You can't"}, {"start": "03:44:38", "end": "03:44:43", "text": "hide it with blurring. Okay. There is a"}, {"start": "03:44:41", "end": "03:44:46", "text": "geoloccator at the Pentagon that figured"}, {"start": "03:44:43", "end": "03:44:49", "text": "it out based on the the way this video"}, {"start": "03:44:46", "end": "03:44:49", "text": "smells."}, {"start": "03:44:55", "end": "03:44:59", "text": "We're going to take a look back at the"}, {"start": "03:44:56", "end": "03:45:01", "text": "Osen map in a second. We're going to"}, {"start": "03:44:59", "end": "03:45:06", "text": "take a look at the um open source"}, {"start": "03:45:01", "end": "03:45:06", "text": "intelligence map momentarily."}, {"start": "03:45:19", "end": "03:45:24", "text": "This is old footage of Ron being bombed"}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:24", "text": "there."}, {"start": "03:45:36", "end": "03:45:41", "text": "reports of um"}, {"start": "03:45:39", "end": "03:45:42", "text": "ships receive high frequency broadcast"}, {"start": "03:45:41", "end": "03:45:44", "text": "from Iran revolutionary guard corps"}, {"start": "03:45:42", "end": "03:45:46", "text": "saying no ships are allowed to pass"}, {"start": "03:45:44", "end": "03:45:49", "text": "through the shade straight of Hormuz. So"}, {"start": "03:45:46", "end": "03:45:51", "text": "it looks like they're"}, {"start": "03:45:49", "end": "03:45:54", "text": "trying to"}, {"start": "03:45:51", "end": "03:45:56", "text": "shut off the straight of Hormuz for the"}, {"start": "03:45:54", "end": "03:46:00", "text": "time being which no one was going"}, {"start": "03:45:56", "end": "03:46:00", "text": "through there anyway."}, {"start": "03:46:01", "end": "03:46:06", "text": "Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov"}, {"start": "03:46:04", "end": "03:46:09", "text": "held a telephone conversation with the"}, {"start": "03:46:06", "end": "03:46:11", "text": "head of the Iranian foreign ministry."}, {"start": "03:46:09", "end": "03:46:15", "text": "Conversation is always nice, but what"}, {"start": "03:46:11", "end": "03:46:19", "text": "are they are they sending any"}, {"start": "03:46:15", "end": "03:46:19", "text": "reinforcements? Are they helping them?"}, {"start": "03:46:19", "end": "03:46:22", "text": "That's what we want to know. I want to"}, {"start": "03:46:20", "end": "03:46:25", "text": "see if what battle damage assessments"}, {"start": "03:46:22", "end": "03:46:28", "text": "have come out of Israel so far. We're"}, {"start": "03:46:25", "end": "03:46:30", "text": "going to take a look inside. Uh what we"}, {"start": "03:46:28", "end": "03:46:32", "text": "know is that air defense is activated."}, {"start": "03:46:30", "end": "03:46:35", "text": "Air defense is going and the Israeli"}, {"start": "03:46:32", "end": "03:46:37", "text": "military has successfully destroyed"}, {"start": "03:46:35", "end": "03:46:39", "text": "dozens of missile launch sites inside of"}, {"start": "03:46:37", "end": "03:46:42", "text": "Iran in the past few hours. They say"}, {"start": "03:46:39", "end": "03:46:45", "text": "that's their claim."}, {"start": "03:46:42", "end": "03:46:48", "text": "And here is from inside of Israel. We've"}, {"start": "03:46:45", "end": "03:46:50", "text": "seen some battle damage."}, {"start": "03:46:48", "end": "03:46:53", "text": "Looks like a missile landed inside of"}, {"start": "03:46:50", "end": "03:46:53", "text": "Israel."}, {"start": "03:47:19", "end": "03:47:23", "text": "Operation Epic Fury."}, {"start": "03:47:25", "end": "03:47:30", "text": "We'll take a look at some more clips if"}, {"start": "03:47:27", "end": "03:47:32", "text": "we can find them. See what"}, {"start": "03:47:30", "end": "03:47:35", "text": "believe we watched this already but I"}, {"start": "03:47:32", "end": "03:47:35", "text": "don't"}, {"start": "03:47:40", "end": "03:47:45", "text": "the involvement of Saudi Arabia is huge."}, {"start": "03:47:43", "end": "03:47:50", "text": "I I'm waiting to see what what that will"}, {"start": "03:47:45", "end": "03:47:50", "text": "mean for the war."}, {"start": "03:47:50", "end": "03:47:54", "text": "Here we see more IDF strikes on Iranian"}, {"start": "03:47:52", "end": "03:47:59", "text": "ballistic missile launchers. They had"}, {"start": "03:47:54", "end": "03:47:59", "text": "about a hundred of them left and"}, {"start": "03:48:07", "end": "03:48:11", "text": "you know it's going to make a big"}, {"start": "03:48:09", "end": "03:48:14", "text": "difference how many of those they took"}, {"start": "03:48:11", "end": "03:48:14", "text": "out"}, {"start": "03:48:15", "end": "03:48:20", "text": "those ballistic missile sites and"}, {"start": "03:48:17", "end": "03:48:20", "text": "launchers."}, {"start": "03:48:36", "end": "03:48:41", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "03:48:39", "end": "03:48:44", "text": "That's a Shahed drone"}, {"start": "03:48:41", "end": "03:48:48", "text": "impacting inside of I believe Dubai."}, {"start": "03:48:44", "end": "03:48:51", "text": "Downtown Dubai. Those"}, {"start": "03:48:48", "end": "03:48:52", "text": "carry a 90 kg warhead."}, {"start": "03:48:51", "end": "03:48:56", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "03:48:52", "end": "03:48:56", "text": "Can level a house."}, {"start": "03:49:03", "end": "03:49:06", "text": "And we're"}, {"start": "03:49:08", "end": "03:49:13", "text": "going to take a look see if we can find"}, {"start": "03:49:11", "end": "03:49:17", "text": "some more."}, {"start": "03:49:13", "end": "03:49:17", "text": "What's breaking coming out now?"}, {"start": "03:49:21", "end": "03:49:26", "text": "that the US is participating in these"}, {"start": "03:49:24", "end": "03:49:28", "text": "attacks. The first word that came across"}, {"start": "03:49:26", "end": "03:49:31", "text": "the wire services with was that these"}, {"start": "03:49:28", "end": "03:49:33", "text": "were Israeli only attacks, Israeli"}, {"start": "03:49:31", "end": "03:49:36", "text": "preemptive attacks against uh the"}, {"start": "03:49:33", "end": "03:49:40", "text": "Iranians, but the US uh Lucas we are"}, {"start": "03:49:36", "end": "03:49:43", "text": "told is participating and and that's no"}, {"start": "03:49:40", "end": "03:49:45", "text": "great surprise."}, {"start": "03:49:43", "end": "03:49:48", "text": "No. and officials told me the same"}, {"start": "03:49:45", "end": "03:49:48", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "03:49:52", "end": "03:49:56", "text": "To me, the million-dollar billion dollar"}, {"start": "03:49:54", "end": "03:49:58", "text": "question at this point is, are they"}, {"start": "03:49:56", "end": "03:50:03", "text": "going to be able to affect regime"}, {"start": "03:49:58", "end": "03:50:05", "text": "change? Is that really going to happen?"}, {"start": "03:50:03", "end": "03:50:08", "text": "I think we're not going to know right"}, {"start": "03:50:05", "end": "03:50:12", "text": "away. I think we're going to it's going"}, {"start": "03:50:08", "end": "03:50:16", "text": "to take time for us to figure out if"}, {"start": "03:50:12", "end": "03:50:16", "text": "regime change actually worked."}, {"start": "03:50:29", "end": "03:50:36", "text": "And that's"}, {"start": "03:50:32", "end": "03:50:40", "text": "what we're"}, {"start": "03:50:36", "end": "03:50:42", "text": "keeping an eye on is and we might know"}, {"start": "03:50:40", "end": "03:50:45", "text": "today. It might if we get confirmation"}, {"start": "03:50:42", "end": "03:50:49", "text": "that the top leadership in Iran was"}, {"start": "03:50:45", "end": "03:50:52", "text": "killed in those initial strikes, then it"}, {"start": "03:50:49", "end": "03:50:55", "text": "would be more likely that there would be"}, {"start": "03:50:52", "end": "03:50:55", "text": "regime change today."}, {"start": "03:51:05", "end": "03:51:10", "text": "So far, the retaliation from Iran is"}, {"start": "03:51:08", "end": "03:51:13", "text": "what"}, {"start": "03:51:10", "end": "03:51:13", "text": "we're keeping an eye on."}, {"start": "03:51:20", "end": "03:51:25", "text": "USA"}, {"start": "03:51:22", "end": "03:51:25", "text": "USA."}, {"start": "03:51:30", "end": "03:51:34", "text": "I don't know if you've ever had the"}, {"start": "03:51:32", "end": "03:51:36", "text": "pleasure of participating in a USA"}, {"start": "03:51:34", "end": "03:51:38", "text": "chant,"}, {"start": "03:51:36", "end": "03:51:41", "text": "whether you've done it tongue and cheek"}, {"start": "03:51:38", "end": "03:51:44", "text": "or you've done it seriously, it is an"}, {"start": "03:51:41", "end": "03:51:46", "text": "experience that every American should be"}, {"start": "03:51:44", "end": "03:51:48", "text": "involved in at some point in their life."}, {"start": "03:51:46", "end": "03:51:51", "text": "Whether you do it ironically or you do"}, {"start": "03:51:48", "end": "03:51:54", "text": "it unironically,"}, {"start": "03:51:51", "end": "03:51:57", "text": "Kuwaiti International Airport hit with"}, {"start": "03:51:54", "end": "03:51:57", "text": "drones."}, {"start": "03:52:02", "end": "03:52:05", "text": "Surveillance camera footage. The moment"}, {"start": "03:52:03", "end": "03:52:08", "text": "an Iranian drone exploded at Kuwait"}, {"start": "03:52:05", "end": "03:52:08", "text": "airport."}, {"start": "03:52:16", "end": "03:52:21", "text": "And we see some of the wreckage inside"}, {"start": "03:52:19", "end": "03:52:24", "text": "of the Kuwait International Airport"}, {"start": "03:52:21", "end": "03:52:24", "text": "here."}, {"start": "03:52:35", "end": "03:52:40", "text": "If it's true that the Ayatollah was"}, {"start": "03:52:36", "end": "03:52:42", "text": "killed and regime change is more likely"}, {"start": "03:52:40", "end": "03:52:45", "text": "is top tier geostrategic analysis I come"}, {"start": "03:52:42", "end": "03:52:47", "text": "to this channel for. Sorry guys, I don't"}, {"start": "03:52:45", "end": "03:52:50", "text": "live stream a lot. I say stupid things"}, {"start": "03:52:47", "end": "03:52:56", "text": "that are pretty obvious to fill dead air"}, {"start": "03:52:50", "end": "03:52:56", "text": "sometimes. You're right. You got me."}, {"start": "03:52:57", "end": "03:53:00", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "03:53:01", "end": "03:53:09", "text": "let's see what's coming out of"}, {"start": "03:53:04", "end": "03:53:09", "text": "the breaking news sector here."}, {"start": "03:53:12", "end": "03:53:15", "text": "A video."}, {"start": "03:53:16", "end": "03:53:20", "text": "Here's what the Israeli Defense Forces"}, {"start": "03:53:18", "end": "03:53:21", "text": "are saying. Israel has a right to defend"}, {"start": "03:53:20", "end": "03:53:24", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "03:53:21", "end": "03:53:27", "text": "New targets in Iran are blowing up too"}, {"start": "03:53:24", "end": "03:53:29", "text": "quickly for me to map. They have some"}, {"start": "03:53:27", "end": "03:53:32", "text": "between Israel and the United States."}, {"start": "03:53:29", "end": "03:53:35", "text": "It's some 400 combat aircraft in the"}, {"start": "03:53:32", "end": "03:53:40", "text": "region. So, and they're probably looking"}, {"start": "03:53:35", "end": "03:53:43", "text": "at an airtasking order of I want to say"}, {"start": "03:53:40", "end": "03:53:45", "text": "easily several different hundred targets"}, {"start": "03:53:43", "end": "03:53:47", "text": "that they have to destroy. So, that's"}, {"start": "03:53:45", "end": "03:53:49", "text": "probably why they're anticipating this"}, {"start": "03:53:47", "end": "03:53:54", "text": "taking"}, {"start": "03:53:49", "end": "03:53:54", "text": "days and not being an instant."}, {"start": "03:54:52", "end": "03:54:57", "text": "Ram says, Saudi recognition of Israel be"}, {"start": "03:54:55", "end": "03:55:00", "text": "historic reset as mothership of"}, {"start": "03:54:57", "end": "03:55:02", "text": "terrorism falls. Senator Lindsey Graham"}, {"start": "03:55:00", "end": "03:55:03", "text": "said Saturday that a potential collapse"}, {"start": "03:55:02", "end": "03:55:05", "text": "of Iran's regime could trigger the"}, {"start": "03:55:03", "end": "03:55:08", "text": "biggest geopolitical shift in the Middle"}, {"start": "03:55:05", "end": "03:55:11", "text": "East in a thousand years and called on"}, {"start": "03:55:08", "end": "03:55:15", "text": "Saudi Arabia to move to recognize Israel"}, {"start": "03:55:11", "end": "03:55:15", "text": "if Thrron falls."}, {"start": "03:55:36", "end": "03:55:39", "text": "Can't unsee that."}, {"start": "03:55:41", "end": "03:55:45", "text": "If Saudi Arabia, the most important"}, {"start": "03:55:43", "end": "03:55:48", "text": "voice in Islam, would recognize the one"}, {"start": "03:55:45", "end": "03:55:50", "text": "and only Jewish state, this was a blow"}, {"start": "03:55:48", "end": "03:55:53", "text": "to terrorism worse than bombs, Graham"}, {"start": "03:55:50", "end": "03:55:55", "text": "told Fox and Friends. The mothership of"}, {"start": "03:55:53", "end": "03:55:58", "text": "terrorism is about to go down. Graham"}, {"start": "03:55:55", "end": "03:56:00", "text": "described the moment as a new dawn for"}, {"start": "03:55:58", "end": "03:56:02", "text": "the region, arguing the current pressure"}, {"start": "03:56:00", "end": "03:56:04", "text": "campaign had set in motion the regime's"}, {"start": "03:56:02", "end": "03:56:06", "text": "demise and would ultimately bring the"}, {"start": "03:56:04", "end": "03:56:08", "text": "regime down. He also unleashed a"}, {"start": "03:56:06", "end": "03:56:09", "text": "blistering attack on Iran's supreme"}, {"start": "03:56:08", "end": "03:56:11", "text": "leader, saying, \"I hope the Ayatollah is"}, {"start": "03:56:09", "end": "03:56:14", "text": "captured or killed. He's a miserable"}, {"start": "03:56:11", "end": "03:56:16", "text": "human being. Hitler in a robe."}, {"start": "03:56:14", "end": "03:56:19", "text": "Graham accused the regime of killing"}, {"start": "03:56:16", "end": "03:56:22", "text": "over 30,000 of their own people to"}, {"start": "03:56:19", "end": "03:56:22", "text": "maintain power."}, {"start": "03:56:35", "end": "03:56:41", "text": "Ran Paul backs Trump on Iran. I oppose"}, {"start": "03:56:38", "end": "03:56:41", "text": "another presidential war."}, {"start": "03:56:46", "end": "03:56:52", "text": "Power to the people. X account claims a"}, {"start": "03:56:49", "end": "03:56:54", "text": "bombing of elementary school kills 40"}, {"start": "03:56:52", "end": "03:56:57", "text": "students. It's obviously propaganda post"}, {"start": "03:56:54", "end": "03:57:00", "text": "by socialists, but like this that we"}, {"start": "03:56:57", "end": "03:57:02", "text": "need to be actively discrediting. I'm"}, {"start": "03:57:00", "end": "03:57:04", "text": "not certain if it's real or not real. I"}, {"start": "03:57:02", "end": "03:57:06", "text": "don't I don't have the battle damage of"}, {"start": "03:57:04", "end": "03:57:08", "text": "reports in front of me on that. Is it"}, {"start": "03:57:06", "end": "03:57:11", "text": "time to apologize to Senator Holden"}, {"start": "03:57:08", "end": "03:57:11", "text": "Bloodfast?"}, {"start": "03:57:15", "end": "03:57:19", "text": "CNN has live Israel views sirens."}, {"start": "03:57:59", "end": "03:58:04", "text": "Yes, the ads are targeted on here. I I"}, {"start": "03:58:02", "end": "03:58:06", "text": "make sure that these ads are only"}, {"start": "03:58:04", "end": "03:58:08", "text": "relevant for me. I love popcorn, for"}, {"start": "03:58:06", "end": "03:58:10", "text": "instance."}, {"start": "03:58:08", "end": "03:58:12", "text": "Got to get I might I might buy that"}, {"start": "03:58:10", "end": "03:58:14", "text": "actually. It's a good point. I don't use"}, {"start": "03:58:12", "end": "03:58:17", "text": "an ad blocker because"}, {"start": "03:58:14", "end": "03:58:18", "text": "I feel like as someone who creates"}, {"start": "03:58:17", "end": "03:58:22", "text": "content online, that'd be a little weird"}, {"start": "03:58:18", "end": "03:58:24", "text": "of me to use an ad ad blocker right now."}, {"start": "03:58:22", "end": "03:58:29", "text": "Maybe I should, but you know, then I"}, {"start": "03:58:24", "end": "03:58:29", "text": "would miss out on this non-GMO popcorn."}, {"start": "03:58:30", "end": "03:58:33", "text": "Well, guys,"}, {"start": "03:58:33", "end": "03:58:39", "text": "we might we might head off to"}, {"start": "03:58:36", "end": "03:58:42", "text": "to put the video together. I think I've"}, {"start": "03:58:39", "end": "03:58:44", "text": "absorbed a lot of the information. Uh"}, {"start": "03:58:42", "end": "03:58:47", "text": "earlier in the stream, we talked a bunch"}, {"start": "03:58:44", "end": "03:58:49", "text": "about"}, {"start": "03:58:47", "end": "03:58:54", "text": "the strategic impacts of this. We went"}, {"start": "03:58:49", "end": "03:58:54", "text": "through what this means."}, {"start": "03:59:25", "end": "03:59:30", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go start to put"}, {"start": "03:59:28", "end": "03:59:32", "text": "put this together and we'll try to put"}, {"start": "03:59:30", "end": "03:59:35", "text": "visuals on this."}, {"start": "03:59:32", "end": "03:59:38", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "03:59:35", "end": "03:59:43", "text": "thank you guys for watching this. Thanks"}, {"start": "03:59:38", "end": "03:59:45", "text": "for joining us and uh check out our"}, {"start": "03:59:43", "end": "03:59:47", "text": "videos that cover"}, {"start": "03:59:45", "end": "03:59:50", "text": "the strikes"}, {"start": "03:59:47", "end": "03:59:53", "text": "that we recently put out. I hope uh my"}, {"start": "03:59:50", "end": "03:59:57", "text": "prayers are with the US forces"}, {"start": "03:59:53", "end": "04:00:01", "text": "and with the people in the region."}, {"start": "03:59:57", "end": "04:00:03", "text": "We hope I hope I hope that this works"}, {"start": "04:00:01", "end": "04:00:05", "text": "out how the US planners are are"}, {"start": "04:00:03", "end": "04:00:08", "text": "anticipating and that it's not a big"}, {"start": "04:00:05", "end": "04:00:08", "text": "cluster."}, {"start": "04:00:10", "end": "04:00:15", "text": "Be safe, stay safe, and be well. I'm"}, {"start": "04:00:12", "end": "04:00:18", "text": "your average infanterman, Chris Cappy."}, {"start": "04:00:15", "end": "04:00:18", "text": "Ending transmission."}]

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Just to show you how far this"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "corruption goes, many in Mexico who see"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "this footage believe the Guatemalan"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "soldiers are colluding with the cartel."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "One of the rounds looks like it damages"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "the Mexican forces engine and stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "starts spewing out of it and a handful"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "of shots hit their windshield, but it's"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "bullet resistant, so it's unclear if it"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "penetrated."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "The three Mexican armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "return heavy fire at the gunman. The"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "view from the ground shows just how"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "crowded and packed this main street"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "really is at this border crossing point."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Google Street View won't take you any"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "closer to the border outpost because of"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "security reasons, but we can see it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "crammed tight street here filled with"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "businesses and people with no room to"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "escape anywhere."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Mexico's president Shybomb said"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "everything appeared to show that the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Mexican authorities entered into"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Guatemala. She said that they are"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "investigating it and it is not all right"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "that that has happened. End quote. News"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "reports state that the Mexican troops"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "killed four gunmen. This stretch here of"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "the Mexico Guatemala border has seen"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "constant violence in the past 2 years."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "The Cineiloa and Halisco New Generation"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "cartel have been battling for control"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "against each other here. One of Mexico's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "governors, Ramirez, said that the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "crossber action was justified because,"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "quote, \"The cartel tries to cross back"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "to Guatemala to evade justice, and"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "that's where we intercept them, and"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "there's the shooting.\" Our next"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "engagement takes us to Mexico. This is"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "the municipal police office in Verarac"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Cruz, a city of 500,000 people. The van"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "rolls up innocently enough on a"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "beautiful sunny day. This happened at"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "11:00 a.m., the almost the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "afternoon, broad daylight. Even though"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "he's speaking with the woman in red on"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "the motorcycle and he's trying to assist"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "her, he sees the hit coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "corner of his eye. Out jumps four narco"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "hitmen with AK patterned firearms. We've"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "geoloccated the shootout to this exact"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "location here at a tiny narrow"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "residential street corner with houses"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "tightly packed together. Fortunately for"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the officer, he had his full situational"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "awareness and he clocked the gunman"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "almost instantly. His reflexes are like"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Spidey instincts. He makes it into the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "house into safety. The gunman starts"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "emptying their entire magazines into the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "house there."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "But local police are inside the building"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "outside of the camera view backing the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "officer up. And gunmen attempted to"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "enter the house, but the police officers"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "returned fire and beat them back. One of"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "the Sakarios trips and falls trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "escape. It's unclear if they were trying"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "to maybe kidnap one of them. The getaway"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "vehicle then takes off without the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "narcos, leaving two of their narco"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "hitmen in the dust. Local reports state"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "that they were guarding a house there"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "due to precautionary warnings that day."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "It's always good to heed warnings and"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "not be complacent. Fortunately, the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "woman stuck right in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "entire shootout seemed to be okay. Was"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "she knowingly or unknowingly sent in by"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the cartels as a distraction? The fact"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "that they went through with the hit"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "while a civilian was standing right"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "there between them is savage instead of"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "waiting for her to leave. Not that that"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "would have been any better really. This"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "shootout is from the fallout over the"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "killing of the top cartel boss El Mencho"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "on February 22nd, 2026. The Mexican"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "troops are driving through the highways"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "here trying to clear those narco"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "roadblocks. They often travel in these"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "kind of unarmored open top vehicles."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "You'll see Mexican troops in these cuz"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "they like to prioritize speed and"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "mobility against the enemy."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> Once they reach this gas station here,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "the soldiers recognize a cartel vehicle."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "It's unclear how they identified it, but"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "often troops will receive from higher up"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "bolos or be on the lookout for a certain"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "type of vehicle."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "So they open fire and they get behind"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "their own vehicle as cover. You can hear"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the incoming rounds now impacting and"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "landing all around them, slamming into"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the ground. The soldier whose GoPro that"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "we're looking through here is using the"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "FX05, the 5.56 rifle, which is Mexico's"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "domestically produced in-house firearm"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "for their troops."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Elmento reportedly had an army of 400"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "elite gunmen that they're fighting here"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "who lashed out in retaliation with drone"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "attacks, landmines all over the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "highways. What we're seeing here is the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Mexican army attempt to regain control."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Thousands more Mexican troops have moved"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "into this location here in Walisco."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "I can't show you the footage of what"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "happens next because it's too graphic"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "for YouTube. But I'll say that they do"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "end up winning the firefight and they do"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "take a few casualties and they have to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "apply a tourniquet to one of their"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "buddies. To see more though, I do an"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "uncensored show weekly on Pepperbox."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Link is in the description. This next"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "engagement happened recently in January"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "2026. It's from special forces in the"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Colombian military, and they're making a"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "high-risk helicopter insertion on a"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "hostage rescue. These troops are inside"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "of a Blackhawk helicopter headed to the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "objective. Operation Thor is the rescue"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "of Yannis Zabalita, a 29-year-old lawyer"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "who was kidnapped by the ELN drug"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "trafficking network while having lunch"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "with friends. She's been held in"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "captivity for 9 months straight. Since"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "then, by the drug smuggling"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "organization, subjected to isolation,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "abuse, and received contaminated food."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "The Blackhawk lands directly in the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "center of the enemy camp. They move"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "about 100 meters from the landing zone"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "to the objective and the assault team"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "dismounts and goes straight there. The"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "infiltration to the objective landing"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "zone went smoothly. They use speed of"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the Blackhawks to surprise the enemy."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "These helicopters are armed with the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "American M134 minigun and they use the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "high volume of fire to suppress the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "cartel."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "They're in the Katumbbo area, which for"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the last year has been a complete war"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "zone with mass kidnappings and clashes."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "The special forces operators approach"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "the shack where their intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "determined the prisoners being held."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "They clear the rooms and they're able to"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "clear the entire camp quickly as they"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "spread out over the objective. The"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Colombian soldiers hear the prisoners"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "shout for help."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> What they find is shocking. They find"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "her being held in a small room,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "handcuffed to the ceiling. She's given"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "body armor and a helmet for protection"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "as they evacuate her. The hostage is"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "secured within just minutes of touching"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "down on the ground. Many of the enemy"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "guards had fled right at the sound of"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "the helicopters and the miniguns."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Exfiltration is the most dangerous part"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "now. The team provides 360° security on"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the ground while Yannis is safely"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "secured. Everyone loads up and they take"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "off. The crew tends to her on the way"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "back, making sure that she's okay,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "giving her medical aid."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "The hostage is rescued with zero killed"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "in action. Local reports from there"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "state that she was safely returned home."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Some of the footage I've seen of them"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "taking photos together afterwards is a"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "little bit strange, though, not what you"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "would expect. Some people online believe"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "some of this was staged a little bit"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "with the ransom being paid ahead of time"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "and her location being given up and this"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "was partly theater. The rescue was done"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "in part by the Jungle Commandos, an"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "elite, highly specialized Colombian unit"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "focused on counter narcotics,"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "particularly targeting cocaine"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "laboratories in remote dense jungle"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "terrain. They were established in 1989"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "and they were trained under British SAS"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "and then later supported by US Green"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Berets. In the aftermath of the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "operation that killed the cartel boss El"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Mencho, this is how the cartel"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "retaliated. The cartel had a full-on"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "generational crash out. This clip from"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "the cartel's perspective shows them"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "ambushing a National Guard convoy. This"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "security camera footage captures the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "moment the National Guard checkpoint"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "gets ambushed by one of these hunting"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "parties. It's a little hard to tell from"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "just this one point of view, but the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "fire is coming down from the street and"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "towards the National Guard vehicles. We"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "can't see any return fire from this"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "perspective, which might just mean that"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "it's off camera or the National Guard"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "personnel are all too suppressed to do"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "anything. Now, we can see the cartel gun"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "truck approaching. Note the homemade"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "armor plates welded to the frame and the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "mounted machine gun. These guys were"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "wellprepared and had likely been"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "planning this sort of violence against"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the government for a long time. There's"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "some muzzle flashes from the truck on"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the left, so at least one National Guard"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "member is alive. At least I think it's a"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Mexican National Guard truck. It's hard"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "to tell since the cartels use many of"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the same vehicles and equipment that the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "actual Mexican security forces do. They"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "completely surrounded this National"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Guard position and turned it into a"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "textbook kill zone. This battle was"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "geoloccated to this intersection here."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "First cartel hitmen are very savvy in"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the ways of social media. So, they've"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "been filming much of their dirty work to"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "show off their gear and hype up their"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "victories. In this engagement, we see"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "the Mexican army do what they do best."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "The soldiers reach an intersection and"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "everything seems to be going hunky dory."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Then they start taking fire out of"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "nowhere. A civilian red jeep guns it out"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "of there trying to get not hit in the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "crossfire."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "As the jeep escapes the intersection."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "The Mexican soldiers lay down"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "suppressing fire. Cartel vehicles are"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "directly in front of them. They lay into"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "them unloading their magazines."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "The Mexican troops point out where the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "enemy are. They give the distance and"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "direction. The whole squad communicates"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "and takes cover behind the unarmored"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "jeep. Unfortunately, a gigantic round"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "lands near them and it looks like"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "they're taking 50 caliber sniper fire."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "The tires are shot out of the jeep and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "the jeep sags closer to the ground. If"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "this looks like it's from Iraq or"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Afghanistan here, it isn't. It's from"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Mexico. The cartel is using giant IED"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "explosives now and kamicazi drones"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "against the Mexican army."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "And we see how if you go further south,"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "they get even more like an insurgent"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "force. Here we see Colombian special"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "forces engaging FARC narot traffickers."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "The flanking maneuver starts off with"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the soldier reloading his M203 grenade"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "launcher to just shoot shots into the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "dead zone space and clear out the enemy."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "We can hear heavy automatic machine gun"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "fire in the distance. incoming and"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "outgoing."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "We can see at one part where the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "soldiers recording, you can see his he's"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "wearing rubber shoes actually, which"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "indicates that he's part of the"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Colombian Special Infiltration Command."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "They start to push forward into the"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "sound of enemy fire. They're attempting"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "to flank the enemy position. It's a"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "risky move. The FARC organization was"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "supposed to have disbanded years ago,"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "but they still linger around like this"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "rash that never goes away. This is"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "taking place in Kala. Troops from"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Colombia's National Army arrived here to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "root out resistance in 2024, and this is"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "what triggered heavy fighting. The"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "soldiers run forward, laying down"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "suppressive fire. He reloads his M203 as"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "his buddy covers him. At this point,"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "they've advanced at least 100 meters"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "forward, and we can see and hear"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "incoming shots, just missing them."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "The buddy team of special operators"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "continues to push forward into the sound"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "of gunfire. The violence of action and"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "the speed is impressive here. Moving"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "like that in the jungle is not easy with"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "full load out."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "The operators stop at a dead enemy"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "soldier here for a moment before they"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "press forward again. They sprint"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "forward, realizing that they have an an"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "opening here, a window of opportunity."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "They use the natural geography of the"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "jungle as a kind of trench system to"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "push up without getting hit. Now they're"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "pushing up closer and closer to the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "enemy camp. Here they arrive at the camp"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "which mostly looks like trash thrown all"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "about. They successfully captured the"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "enemy camp and denied them freedom of"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "movement. This is video proof of the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "cartels operating weaponized drones"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "here. Here they're using it against a"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "rival gang. They likely learned a lot of"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "these tactics from their time fighting"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "in Ukraine. In February, El Paso airport"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "in the United States was shut down"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "because of the threat of narco drone"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "incursions, some 2,000 of which are"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "estimated to happen per month at the"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "border. This footage is the type that we"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "rarely see in America. A sucario is"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "walking casually on a bridge with a"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "beltfed machine gun. Then they start"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "spraying it into the sky. And these"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "kinds of displays of macheismo seem"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "strange to us maybe sometimes in"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "America, but to them it shows how badass"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "they are. It's these displays of"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "equipment that are meant to intimidate"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "everyone. Narot terrorists are now even"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "using armored freaking narco tanks. Here"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "we see rival cartels fighting each"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "other. This took place right near the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "American border in Tamil Lupus. Both"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "sides are refusing to withdraw. They're"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "shooting each other as the bullets"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "bounce off of their makeshift armor"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "plating. The two sides ram into one"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "another and fire rounds point blank at"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "each other. Then one of the vehicles"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "catches fire. Giant flames are"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "everywhere. They press their advantage"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "because of that and start slamming 50"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "cal rounds into the enemy vehicle. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "burning and twisted up in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "the street. You can hear the Sakario"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "celebrating their victory. But despite"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "that, despite getting blasted, the"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "burning truck continues to return fire"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "at them. Both trucks are in this"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "deadlock, just unable to totally knock"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "out the other cartel. So they keep"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "laying down shots into the opposing"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "side. This footage stood out to me"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "because it shows how militarized the"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "fight against the cartel organization"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "has been forced to become. Blackhawk"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "helicopters armed with miniguns are now"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "regularly spraying rounds into cartel"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "positions. They've become one of the"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "best weapons for the Mexican military."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "The only question is how long until the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "US arms them with a couple of Apaches,"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "which is why the Blackhawks have become"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "targets. This Colombia pilot thought"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "that he was safe while hovering, waiting"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "to extract some troops. Suppressing fire"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "is going off all around them. It seems"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "like a war zone in Vietnam."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "This took place in the jungles of"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Bavaria, which is where these narco drug"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "trafficking groups hides. It's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "where all of these drugs come from and"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "originate, actually. And that's when a"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "round smacked straight into the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Blackhawk cockpit windshield. According"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "to reports, the pilot quickly maneuvers"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "out of the line of fire. He then starts"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "checking himself for injuries, going"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, what just happened?\""}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Clearly, he's in disbelief. Okay, I"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "don't need to speak the same language as"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "him. I don't need to know Spanish to"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "know that his hand gestures here. He's"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "doing the universal, \"Oh, holy my"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "life just flashed before my eyes.\""}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Cartels have recently even downed a"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "helicopter in Colombia with a drone, so"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the risks are even higher. And we'll end"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "with the most aggressive brazen attack"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "maybe of all time that I've seen. The"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Haliscoco New Generation Cartel. They"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "hit a business in the state of Halisco."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "It starts with them pulling up on a"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "mechanic shop. Almost instantly, they"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "start spraying rounds into it."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "We briefly see as he turns around to his"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "buddies that they're about five Sakarios"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "advancing. They push up into the auto"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "shop while spraying fire. They move in"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "as a team, but this is a hit squad of"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "assassins. This is a CJNG stronghold."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "And this exact type of rural mechanic"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "shop reprisal is seen repeatedly in this"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "conflict zone."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "There are several possible reasons for"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "this hit. A retaliation killing against"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "locals who they accuse of helping rivals"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "or police. In this war, they target"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "small businesses used by rivals. So"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "mechanic, tire shops, body shops. They"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "hit any cartel logistics nodes. In"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "cartel war zones, mechanic shops are"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "critical. They manufacture the armor"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "plating on the cartel monster trucks"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "that we just saw. They create hidden"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "compartments for smuggling, vehicle"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "repair after shootouts. They swap out"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "vins. To learn more, check out this"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "video on why the CIA needed Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Epstein to do illegal arms deals, or"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "this whole playlist on cartel"}]

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To give you an idea of"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the kind of psychopath that they're"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "going up against, Eleno is the founder"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "of the Haliscoco New Generation Cartel,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "one of the two top dogs in the country."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "He's responsible for killing hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "thousands with fentanyl and leaving"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "behind a trail of mass graves in Mexico"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "where all that's left are a stack of"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "shoes next to an oven. If there is"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "anything that Mexico and the United"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "States can agree on, it's this guy's got"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "to go. That's why they partnered on this"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "mission in a new level of cooperation"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "between the two nations. The US deployed"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "their new joint inter agency task force"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "counter cartel and their whole meaning"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "in life is to map out networks of narco"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "members on both sides of the US Mexico"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "border. The task force is a mix of"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "intelligence personnel and law"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "enforcement from within the US military"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "that help provide targeting information"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "for the on the ground Mexican army. A"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "highstakes version of a trust fall. But"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "this actually sounds very familiar to"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "how the two have partnered for years"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "already, for decades really, including"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "the capture of El Chapo in the past. So"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "what's different about this? Well, it"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "appears to be the level of on the ground"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "involvement. Mexico's defense minister"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "and the US defense officials both"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "confirmed the operation was part of"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "bilateral coordination and cooperation"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "with the United States, which is the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "best kind of coordination, and that they"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "received supplementary information from"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "US authorities. Imagine how much of a"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "problem you have to be in order to get"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "the US and Mexican government to put"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "their differences aside and team up with"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "each other. Attack helicopters armed"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "with Gatling guns moved in over the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "objective as close air support. The way"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "they captured him is insane, and that's"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "only the beginning of the story because"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "it sparks a full narco war. This video"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "is sponsored by SDI. 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When"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "the joint team reached their target on"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "the ground to make the arrest, a"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "firefight broke out and the Mexican"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "army, the team engaged Elmeno and his"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "henchmen, trading automatic gunfire."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Overhead, the attack helicopters opened"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "up with Gatling gunfire, pouring it down"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "on the objective. Troops pushed the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "narco fighters back into the surrounding"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "hills and into the woods where they"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "chased them and blocked them off, giving"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "them nowhere to run by surrounding them"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "and boxing them in. When we look at the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "topography of where the battle took"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "place, you could see how the gunmen were"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "forced into the hills and there isn't"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "much cover for them in the wide open"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "rural plains. When the dust had settled"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "on the Mexican standoff, eight cartel"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "sakario were killed on the scene and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "their boss, Elmano, was confirmed"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "eliminated. He died from gunshot wounds"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "on the way to the hospital. Three"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Mexican security forces were injured in"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the initial assault. The bravery of the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Mexican military was captured in this"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "viral video of one of the Mexican troops"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "who had legitimately caught a bullet"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "with his teeth. I'd buy that man a"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "surveis any day. Then tactical sight"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "exploitation moved in and they"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "confiscated multiple narco armored"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "vehicles and freaking rocket launchers."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "The US and Mexican government high-fived"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "and rejoiced, but it was a premature"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "celebration because, as we'll see,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "killing Elena was only the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the fight. Armed cartel gunmen took to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "the streets in retaliation for the death"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "of their boss. The Mexican army engaged"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "the cartel in gunfights throughout the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "state. All hell broke loose. Basically,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "it was like the purge but on the streets"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "of Mexico. Armed CGNG cells stopped"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "innocent people in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "highway, pulled them out of their cars,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "poured gasoline all over it, and lit"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "them on fire. Can you imagine it"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "happening, too? They're burning down"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "businesses left and right like it's GTA"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "6 out there. But they managed to set up"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "over 250 roadblocks across 20 of the 31"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Mexican states. They even broke out"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "heavy excavators like an engineering"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "brigade. This looks more like an"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "insurgency than a criminal organization."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "The tactics that the cartel is using"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "here with these blockades is to create"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "choke points that prevent Mexican"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "soldiers from getting reinforcements to"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the objective. It's to reduce their"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "ability to have mobility in response and"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "to make them less effective. They're"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "also using the blockades to stop"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "tourists from getting out, to create"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "traps, and to hold them as potential"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "hostages. And I just realized that last"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "bit of B-roll that we just used might"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "have been AI generated. And I'm such an"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "unk I can't even tell at this point"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "anymore. But it's a huge problem because"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "when there's chaos like this, it's"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "difficult for people to determine what's"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "really going on on the ground. Their"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "ultimate goal, the cartel here, is to"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "create fear in the population and the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Mexican army. So, Mexican officials were"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "concerned about targeting Elmano because"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "of the chaos that it would cause, but"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "the US government has been putting"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "increasingly every single type of"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "pressure. They're pulling all of the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "levers that they can on Mexico to get"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "them to act quickly against cartel"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "bosses because the relationship between"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "these two governments has been super"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "tense recently on both sides. The US"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "government has threatened to tariff"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Mexico heavily and threatened to take"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "unilateral military action as leverage"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "for them to do more about the cartel"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "violence. Through this pressure, Mexico"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "has recently sent 90 high-profile narot"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "terrorists that were extradited to the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "United States. But is it too little too"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "late? Evidence that Elmeno's death and"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "all of this has to do with US pressure"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "is because Mexico's president Shime has"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "always in the past avoided operations"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "that targeted cartel leaders due to the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "risk of triggering this kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "retaliatory violence. The governor of"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Holis, Pablo Lemus, started live"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "tweeting the chaotic aftermath of"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Eleno's death. He stated that everyone"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "needed to stay in their homes and that"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "the government had activated a quote"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "unquote code red rojo, which is about as"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "bad as it sounds, essentially putting"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the entire state in Mexico into a"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "lockdown after the cartel went nuts"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "because their boss was killed. It's an"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "urgent message to the public that means"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that public transportation is suspended."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Residents are told to shelter in place"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "indoors and not go outside. It's clear"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "why. Look at how this gunman was"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "leisurely hanging in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "road like it's a Tuesday, bragging about"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "being in control of the highway here"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "with impunity to avenge Elmeno. And so"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "this is what we're looking at here. This"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "is why people think that they're narco"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "terrorists because they scare the entire"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "state into forcing them to not go"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "outside and to shutter their windows."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Wild choice here though. recording"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "yourself doing a crime when there are an"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "army of psychopaths at Palunteer working"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "to identify you based on your"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "biometrics. In retaliation to the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "retaliation though, the Mexican army"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "surged combat patrols to fight the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "cartel back. But then things got worse."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "So there were rumors circulating at"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "first that cartel executed a coordinated"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "attack on the Guadalajara airport, the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "second largest city in Mexico. I mean"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "it'd be almost like if the LAX Los"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "Angeles airport went down. I can't"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "imagine an airport being shut down by a"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "criminal group. Terrified innocent"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "civilians fled from the scene. It later"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "turned out that it was a false alarm."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "There was no attack on the airport. But"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "it shows the kind of hysteria that can"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "spiral out of control with fear from the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "cartels. Can shut down a whole airport"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "without firing a shot. Then I see"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "something interesting happen in the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "midst of all this chaos. Because when"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "there's a crisis, some organizations"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "will never let it go to waste. the head"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "of the private security company named"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Saber Defense. He says that they've"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "deployed aviation assets and security"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "personnel to Mexico and they currently"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "have pilots and aircraft on standby for"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "private security extractions of US"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "citizens in Puerto Varta. Almost all of"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "those private security guys are former"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "special forces who would then be"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "operating inside of Mexico without"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "diplomatic cover. The type of"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "international kurfuffle that might cause"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "is very interesting to think about. We"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "know that US private military"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "contractors went to Colombia for many"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "years under a $600 million contract"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "where they fought against narot"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "terrorists there. So, is that something"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "that we're going to see here? An"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "increase in private military"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "organizations from the US kind of going"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "to Mexico? Now, this violence should"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "come as no surprise, though, because"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "over 23,000 homicides were reported in"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Mexico in 2025. That's five times the"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "amount that were killed in the entire"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "global war on terror in just one year."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "But what shocked me even more about"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "those numbers is that that's actually"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "low. They've dropped 30% since last"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "year. But a lot of people believe that"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "those numbers are being manipulated now."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Because while murders are down 30%,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "disappearances in Mexico are up 16%."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Which suggests to me that maybe the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Mexican government might be trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "hide murder numbers by classifying them"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "as disappearances instead. We see this"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "done in the United States as well. What"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "we're seeing now though is why those"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "murder numbers are so high. Narco"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "violence in Mexico threatens US"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "interests far beyond drugs or crime"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "though. The United States wants to"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "invest heavily in Mexico as an"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "alternative to their greatest rival,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "China. But doing this is difficult with"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the security threat and instability of"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "narco organizations. It may have been"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "true at one time that if American demand"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "for drugs stopped, then the supply would"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "stop and the cartels would have no"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "money. But the problem has become far"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "more complicated, and it explains how"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "Eleno's cartel has been able to fund"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "this massive countrywide retaliation."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Beginning in 2018, they started"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "hijacking tanker trucks at gunpoint and"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "then they directly bribed refinery"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "owners and it extorted rig workers. This"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "practice became so profitable and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "widespread that cartel fuel thieves have"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "their own nickname. The huge problem"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "here is that this money is now rivaling"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the amount that they make through the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "drug trade. And that kind of funds makes"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "them powerful. Powerful enough to stand"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "up to the state. But there is a rule"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that they forgot. You don't touch"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "America's boats and you don't touch"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "America's oil. That's why the cartel is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "getting the heat right now. I think take"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "a look at how Mexico is crisscrossed by"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "pipelines. These run from oil fields to"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "refineries and then to ports. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "millions of gallons of oil just flowing"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "through that the cartel wants to target."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "The way the operation works from the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "inside is cartel fighters recruit former"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "oil workers to join them. These subject"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "matter experts know enough about the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "system to pioneer ways to tap into those"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "oil pipelines. It's impossible to secure"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "all of them throughout the country."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Right. The cartel is now working"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "handinhand with corrupt Americans to"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "steal $20 billion of fuel from the"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Mexican government a year. They use"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "hidden hoses that are dangerously"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "connected to pipes that sometimes"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "explode, but usually they just"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "continuously siphon fuel to secret"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "pickup spots. American export companies"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "buy diesel legally. Then they fake their"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "export documents, pretending they aren't"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "shipping fuel to Mexico, but they are."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "They send the fuel to cartel-owned"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "companies in Mexico. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "knowingly, sometimes unwittingly. This"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "is huge for the cartel because right now"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "fentanyl prices have fallen 80% within"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "the last 2 years. Here's the thing that"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "I think people aren't getting is that"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "when you have an extra $20 billion in"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "funds, you can do just about anything"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "with it. And even famous units like the"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Mexican Navy, the Mexican Marines that"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "are so well known for being untouchable."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Last September, high-ranking officers in"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "the Mexican Navy were among 14 arrested"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "in Northern Mexico as part of a fuel"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "smuggling ring. The incident has been"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "called Mexican Navy's Black Week and"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "created a huge internal problem of not"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "knowing who to trust anymore. And if you"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "look too deep into what they're doing"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "over there, you get got because one of"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "the top investigators at the Tamaleipas"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Attorney General's office was"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "assassinated by the Gulf Cartel for"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "digging too deep into their fuel"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "smuggling network. Just look at how"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "they're using this extra illicit fuel"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "revenue. The raid on Elmeno is just the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "most recent example of rumors of US"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "forces and FBI agents on the ground"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "inside Mexico. Take the capture of one"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "of the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives,"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "for example. A cartel linked narco boss"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "named Ryan Wedding. Yes, that same Ryan"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "Wedding, the former Canadian Olympic"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "snowboarder from the 2002 games who"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "somehow went from carving up the powder"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "on the snowboard to allegedly running a"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "billion-dollar cocaine empire under"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Cinoella cartel protection like one"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "casually does. Right. For more than a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "decade, US authorities say wedding hid"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "inside of Mexico, protected by cartel"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "networks. He was moving massive"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "quantities of cocaine across all the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Americas and he was allegedly ordering"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "multiple murders tied to his trafficking"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "operation. Then suddenly he's captured"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "in Mexico and flown straight to"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "California in US custody. And that's"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "where the story gets really murky I"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "think because US officials framed it as"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "a major joint law enforcement success."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "But Mexico's president Chime Bomb"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "immediately downplayed any foreign role,"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "saying that Wedding voluntarily"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "surrendered at the United States embassy"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "in Mexico and said that Wedding turned"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "himself in and showed what may have been"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "an AI generated Instagram post as proof."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "It's okay. I get fooled by AI all the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "time. I'm an unk and I admit it. But to"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "make things even more confusing, Ryan"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Wedding's own attorney said that he"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "didn't turn himself in willingly and"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "that he was arrested by officials."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Meanwhile, reporting from Mexico and US"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "outlets suggest different things that"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the FBI personnel were actually involved"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "on the ground in Mexico during the"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "arrest. Something that's extremely"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "sensitive because US agents are"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "generally barred from those type of"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "unilateral or even joint operations over"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "there. But whatever the truth is, one"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "thing is clear. A cartel protected narco"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "boss who lived safely in Mexico for over"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "decades now suddenly in US custody. And"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "nobody can quite agree how it happened."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Cartel bosses are getting yonked and"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "dropped all over the place in this last"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "year. The situation on the US Mexico"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "border is just getting weirder and"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "weirder and more dangerous in a way that"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "almost nobody fully comprehends at the"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "moment. A few days ago, US military"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "personnel operating along the border"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "near El Paso detected an unidentified"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "object crossing into US airspace. They"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "tracked it, they classified it as a"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "potential threat, and then they shot it"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "down. Although it might have been a"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "balloon that they shot down, or it could"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "have been a cartel drone. At first,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "nobody could agree on what it was. Some"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "reports said that it might have been a"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "party balloon. Others suggested a small"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "aircraft. But almost immediately, a"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "third possibility started circulating"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "among border security circles that it"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "was a cartel drone. What we do know is"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "that authorities temporarily shut down"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "El Paso International Airport. That's"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "two international airports shut down in"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "like 2 weeks across different borders"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "because of the cartel. That is"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "extraordinarily rare and it's something"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "that we haven't seen since 9/11. Jones"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "have become one of the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "emerging tools in cartel operations and"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "it's not clear how US authorities or"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Mexican authorities are supposed to"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "handle them. I remember over here by me"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "in New Jersey there was a whole"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "kurfuffle about drones flying overhead"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "and it turned out to be from the US"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "government but it's unclear what the"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "response to these are supposed to be."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "And it happens now many thousands of"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "times per month. As many as 2,000 cartel"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "incursion drones happen per month. Many"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "are simple surveillance platforms."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "scouts in the sky mapping border patrol"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "movements. They're just identifying gaps"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "and fences and tracking when these"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "smuggling corridors are clear. So far,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "most of these drones haven't been"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "weaponized, but the trajectory, I think,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "is obvious and really freaking"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "concerning because cartels are already"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "escalating against US personnel on the"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "ground. Intelligence shared among"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "federal and local agencies have"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "indicated that some criminal groups have"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "begun circulating bounty structures"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "targeting American law enforcement and"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "border officials. The reported tiered"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "payouts are pretty freaking chilling. A"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "few thousand for collecting and doxing"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "agents information, roughly $10,000 for"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "kidnapping, or up to $50,000 for killing"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "senior officials. That kind of incentive"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "normalizes violence against US agents."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "It's increasingly looking like an"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "insurgency. The escalation this year has"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "gotten worse as we've seen what they are"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "smuggling in. It's more than drugs. Now,"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "these gunmen are increasingly"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "overwhelming security forces with 50"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "caliber rounds that were originally"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "produced at Lake City Munition Plant in"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Kansas City, Missouri. It's the small"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "arms factory for US military production,"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "just pumping out billions of rounds. But"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "on the morning of November 30th, 2019, a"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "convoy of pickup trucks carrying gunmen"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "entered the town of Villa Union and they"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "started spraying 50 cal machine gun"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "fire. Eventually, the Mexican army did"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "what they do best. They drove in and"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "they merckked 19 of the cartel cold, but"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "four police officers were killed and two"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "civilians. An investigation though later"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "found that those 50 cal rounds ended up"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "being third-party purchases by private"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "citizens in the retail market that was"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "then sent to the cartels instead of"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "military use. Because by allowing"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "civilians to buy ammo, it makes it"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "cheaper for the military. Then the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Mexican government themselves also"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "bought some 50 caliber rounds. So, it"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "somehow landed in the cartel's hands and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "they've used these to shoot down"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "helicopters and assassinate government"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "officials. The Haliscoco New Generation"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "Cartel uses tactics that are more like a"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "military. They've shot down helicopters."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "They've assassinated politicians. And"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "this is exactly the kind of retaliation"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "that we expect during one of these"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "events. Because when El Chapo's son was"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "captured in 2019, there was a massive"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "700 gunman battle that took place in"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "broad daylight. and they only stopped"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "once they got what they wanted, which"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "was the return of El Chapo's son. But"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "this violence today is a little bit less"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "clear what they want in return. The CJNG"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "is the same cartel faction that carried"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "out an assassination attempt against the"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "now head of the federal security, Garcia"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Haruch. A full platoon of 40 gunmen"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "executed a carefully coordinated ambush"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "plan against him. They intercepted his"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "armored vehicle at dawn in 2020. Using"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "military tactics, they threw grenades."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "They pelted it with machine gun fire."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "And they shot at it with well- aimed 50"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "caliber sniper rifle shots right on"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Mexico capital city Grand Boulevard."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Garcia survived but was shot three times"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "and two of his guards were killed."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "There's a parallel arm power growing in"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Mexico, you guys. The deeper the cartel"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "embed into the energy and they take over"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "these entire regions, the more"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "inevitable direct confrontation from the"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "United States becomes. Hopefully, the"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "joint cooperation groups between the"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "Mexican and US military are able to put"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "a serious dent in their operations this"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "year. Check out this video on how the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "United States is already conducting"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "shaping operations, covert action"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "against Iran, or this whole playlist of"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "videos that I've done covering the"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "cartel."}]

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The"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Institute for the Study of War think"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "tank reported that the Iranian regime's"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "concern about crossber Kurdish militant"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "activity will likely cause the regime to"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "divert resources to address this threat."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Reporters spoke to US officials in the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "State Department who confirm this covert"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "action. But why would they do that? Why"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "would they confirm this top secret"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "information? What about OPSAC? 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This open- source intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "study looked at leaked internal"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "documents from this facility, the thrral"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "facility, that revealed everything about"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "how it functions and revealed its"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "weakest, most vulnerable points. This"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "80page document outlines everything from"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "their command structure to their"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "leadership to each and every individual"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "target that would need to be hit to take"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "it out. every headquarters location,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "what their responsibilities are,"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "distribution of units, the tactics that"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "they use. But how is America exploiting"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "that weakness? Well, when the protests"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "in Iran happened in 2026 in January, the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "US military didn't have all their ducks"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "in a row for a decisive strike. But now"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "those ducks are being put in a row."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Quack- quack. Because the largest US"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "military buildup since the Gulf War is"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "currently underway. The two US aircraft"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "carriers and hundreds of US fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "are now moving into position and they're"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "surrounding Iran, preparing for a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "decapitation strike. The leader of the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Islamic Republic has tweeted in response"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "threatening to send these American"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "warships to the bottom of the sea, the"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "geopolitical equivalent of come at me,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "bro. Meanwhile, 25,000 American troops"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "are now moving in to reinforce the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Middle East. Enough to make any E2 say"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "who. But what are they aiming at? Thrala"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "headquarters is run by General Hosini"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Najat. He has already ruthlessly been"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "responsible for putting down two"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "protests in the past and he's a known"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "enjoyer of licking boots. He's fast"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "becoming the general in Iranian military"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "that's best at killing other Iranians."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "If there were any ground campaign inside"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Iran, it would be undercover special"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "operatives from the MSAD and from US"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "special forces that would target Iran's"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "key leadership. General Nijat would be"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "high up on that list because he is the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "general in charge of how Iran tasks out"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "their besiege militia. What is the"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "besiege militia? Most people like myself"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "have only ever heard of the infamous"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Iran's IRGC. But the besiege is actually"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "way more important if you want to"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "understand the country's system of"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "internal oppression because it is Iran's"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "mass volunteer paramilitary force with a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "manpower estimated to be about 100,000"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "strong. They are the backbone of the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "regime's internal security reserve. They"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "are called up in times of crisis and"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "they maintain control of the people"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "through brutal violence. The besiege is"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "subordinate to the IRGC who totally"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "dominates them. Destroying or degrading"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "this key unit would be very important."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "The first step in degrading them is"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "mapping out the targets. We know that it"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "was originally established in 1995"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "following unrest in the capital. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "actually when Ayatollah Ali Kamini first"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "started to increasingly rely on it to"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "remain in power. By 2009, they had"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "expanded massively, setting up four sub"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "headquarters. It's developed over the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "years through these multiple protests,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "becoming bigger and bigger and gaining"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "more and more importance, and more"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "control is now routed to them in what"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "are called red alert situations. They're"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "created this special system of"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "surveillance where they've doubled down"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "on their coercion in offthebooks prisons"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "where they interrogate people and this"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "has allowed them to quickly fragment"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Iranian protest networks. Ultimately,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "they are then able to reassert control"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "of the country time and time again."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "However, their locations are now closely"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "monitored by US air campaign planners."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Take note, one of these locations is in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Nadir. Another is in Cod's FA and Gdar."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "all located strategically throughout the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "city of Tyrron. The air tasking order of"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "US fighter bombers will prioritize these"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "targets in their list. Precision strikes"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "will aim to destroy these bases so they"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "cannot coordinate. Here's a list of all"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the headquarters buildings and their"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "locations mapped out. But it would be a"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "challenge to knock out the network"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "entirely because intelligence reports"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "indicate that since 2007, the IRGC has"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "managed to decentralize by setting up"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "these new provincial guard sites as"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "they're called. And there are now a"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "total of 32 key guard posts that are"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "tied to the 11 operational headquarters"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "including Theala. By spreading out"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "further like this, it's allowed them to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "tighten control and add a level of"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "redundancy in case any location is hit."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "This is the kind of intelligence that"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "will be handed to American and Israeli"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "fighter pilots and bomber aircraft. To"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "hit all these targets simultaneously,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "may require massive sustained air"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "campaign because America now has a"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "boatload of combat power that's moved"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "into the region literally and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "figuratively. A total of 20 warships"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "will be in the fifth fleet now. The meme"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "sentom forever never dies. On top of"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that, the Gerald Ford aircraft carrier,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "which just got done taking down another"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "dictator in the Caribbean, is moving"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "directly to the Middle East and is"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "looking to add another notch on her"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "belt. I've heard online flight trackers"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "are now showing the arrival of more than"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "80 American fighter jets on their route"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "from Europe to reach a total of over 220"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "aircraft in the region. US troop numbers"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "are over 50,000. This outstanding"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "graphic here shows all the capabilities"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "of the US moved into theater, including"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "hundreds of Tomahawk missiles that are"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "in their inventory. This contingent"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "would have a lot of targets that they"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "would need to pound. According to this"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "report, there are 23 IRGC besiege bases."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "Each is directly embedded within"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Thrron's municipal district, which means"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the risk of collateral damage is higher"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "and the use of precision strikes would"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "be required. The risk of hitting"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "innocent people increases when they're"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "located centrally in the city like this,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "which would be counterproductive. They"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "have two overlapping bases that are"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "concentrated in politically sensitive"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "regions. These commands functions"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "basically as the hubs that protect the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "entire regime. But it gets more"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "complicated when trying to plan the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "strike out. Because in total, there are"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "actually 3,000 of these decentralized"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "militia besieged neighborhood bases,"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "which are basically just checkpoints"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "everywhere that exist throughout"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Tyrron's 375"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "neighborhoods. We can see here visually"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "how this city is divided into areas of"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "responsibility for them. These are the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "units that conduct the checkpoints on"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "roads to prevent protesters from having"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "full mobility. The target list becomes"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "overwhelming quickly, we can see. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "why it's always a good idea to not go it"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "alone when you're undertaking something"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "big and scary like regime change."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "America's allies in the Israeli Air"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Force would likely be heavily involved"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "in any attack. There are two key things"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "to note here. I think all of these"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "fighters are now freed in Israel from"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "having to worry about a second strike"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "from Hezbollah like would have happened"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "in the past because Hezbollah has been"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "heavily degraded. And now that Syria's"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "al-Ahsad has fallen, this has opened up"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "this new corridor, a wide open gap for"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Israeli fighter jets to follow through,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "which they've recently exploited in"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "their strikes against Iran. They operate"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "more than 200 combat aircraft. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "talking about a combined over 400"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "fighter jets. Now, a Delta Force"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "decapitation raid like the one in"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Venezuela is theoretically possible"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "here, but it would be much more"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "difficult because Caracus was"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "conveniently located just 12 mi"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "offshore. In this case, helicopters"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "would have to travel from the borders"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "over 500 m across land inside of Iran,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "which makes them a vulnerable target"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "before reaching the city of Thyron,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "where the country's key leadership is"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "located. They could deploy"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "discombobulators along the way, but"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "that's a difficult task. The next"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "biggest target for toppling Iran's"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "regime is their missile inventory. This"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "needs to go. In the past 2 years, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "been reduced, you might not know this,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "by about half. There's only 1,200"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "missiles remaining in Iran after strikes"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "on their storage depots. And an"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "estimated only 100 launchers still"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "remain that can even fire those"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "missiles. They've greatly reduced the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "volume of fire there. And that number is"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "down from 480 in the past. twothirds of"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Iran's firing capacity was totally"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "destroyed. The threat, while not"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "completely gone, is heavily diminished."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "But it's interesting to note that this"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "is Iran's priority, right? Because"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "recent satellite images that I've seen"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "showed that Iran has been busy at work"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "reinforcing these missile bases."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Intelligence officials say Iran has"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "quickly repaired about a dozen of the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "ballistic missile sites that were"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "totally KO'ed in air strikes last year."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "They've been racing to rebuild these"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "instead of the nuclear facility because"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "it's interesting to note that so far"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "there's been only been limited fixes to"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "the nuclear sites that the United States"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "smashed. It also appears that the bunker"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "buster bombs were effective because the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "satellite image evidence shows that the"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "nuclear facilities in Iran are currently"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "inoperative and are just largely empty."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "The western Iran hosts some of the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "highest density of ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "infrastructure that would need to be"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "hit. This includes the Imam Ali missile"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "base and the Kermasha missile garrison"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "and the centurylo Samnan missile"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "complex. Several midnight hammers would"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "need to be dropped on them and it would"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "take some inventory of tomahawks to"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "totally destroy them. Destroying the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "missile systems located in the south is"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "key to mission success because this is"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "within range of the Gulf shipping lanes."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "This is where Iran exercises control of"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "the straight of Hormuz. Iran has a fleet"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "of fast attack boats that they used to"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "temporarily close part of the straight"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "recently where they also have threatened"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "to lay sea mines through here. This was"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "done to remind America of the leverage"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that they have on the transit route. But"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "doing this, shutting this down would be"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "the nuclear option, no pun intended,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "because it would shut off about 20% of"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the world's oil supply and their allies"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "in China would be pretty pissed off"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "about that. Why is the US implementing a"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "strategy to topple Iran? What is there"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "really to gain here? It would totally"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "reshape the global balance of power"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "across the world because China gets a"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "combined 20% of their oil from Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "and Iran. If America gained control over"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "both these sources of oil, it would give"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "them a strategic advantage over China."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "This is why part of the negotiation is"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "that the US wants Iran to move away from"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "China as an ally. The aftermath is"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "impossible for me to predict anyway."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "It's unlikely, but it could lead to the"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "former Sha's son being put into power,"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "who would be very, very friendly to the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "United States. Or the country could"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "devolve into some kind of civil war,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "like in Libya, god forbid, what happened"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "in Syria and Yemen, causing chaos and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "instability, which would spill over into"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "neighboring nations, and then terrorist"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "organizations would rise in the vacuum"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "of power. Victory for the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Republic of Iran, once a war were to"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "start, would be to simply survive it."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "The US and Israel though could claim"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "victory conditions simply by saying that"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "they degraded Iran's missile abilities."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "But really in reality, anything short of"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "toppling Iran's government once a war"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "starts would not have been worth the"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "cost unless they go all the way full"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "send regime change. Or the regime could"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "collapse and be replaced by martial law."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "Or something else that I haven't even"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "thought of could happen. To put that"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "into scale, this gigantic military"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "deployment is super expensive."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Maintaining forward deployed units like"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "this burns through resources, but it"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "makes them some of the best leverage"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "during negotiations that you could have."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "The risks are higher for them though"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "because launching these aircraft from"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "carriers would put them within range of"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "some of the first direct ballistic"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "missiles that would target aircraft"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "carriers in history. You might say there"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "are other vectors of attack, and it's"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "true, US forces are located at 19 major"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "bases here, but a lot of people don't"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "realize that they're not allowed to"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "attack into Iran from those bases."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "They're only authorized to run defensive"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "interception of incoming missiles. This"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "is due to legal constraints with the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "host countries not being down to clown."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Not cool with getting involved in"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "another one of America's classic regime"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "change wars. Some are skeptical of the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "chances of war, but open- source troop"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "movements now show that THAAD and"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Patriot launchers, these air defense"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "systems are being moved into and"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "deployed into the region. It's become"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "clear that hostilities are more and more"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "likely because pulling those systems off"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "other locations reduces strengths"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "elsewhere like in the Pacific. So, that"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "wouldn't be done for nothing. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "interesting to note that the US military"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "doesn't have enough air defense to be"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "everywhere all at once. It's moved"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "around and kind of a a game of musical"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "chairs is played with them to be put"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "into the place where they're needed"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "most. I don't know if that analogy"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "works. What we know is that the collapse"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "of Iran's government is the final"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "missing piece for the neocons. The final"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "missing piece in the Middle East puzzle"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "for American interests. Maybe spreading"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "democracy wasn't the goal all along."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "Maybe it's not what the US wanted. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "didn't matter if you're a dictator or"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "not. So long as you're on America's"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "side. Check out this video. It's the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "untold story of how Jeffrey Epstein got"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "rich smuggling weapons for the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "became an international arm smuggler and"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "sent a bunch of weapons to Iran over the"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "decades. Check that video out if you're"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "interested. I'm your average inframan,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "Chris Cappy. Thank you for watching and"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "remember to check out Supremacy World"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "War III, the free-to-play online grand"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "strategy game set in the modern global"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "wars that we follow here. Personally,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "I'm stoked for the new officer gameplay"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "feature. Just click my link in the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "description to get your exclusive"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "starter pack"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "It's 1983. The Cold War is still raging."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "And a littleknown 30-year-old financeier"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "named Jeffrey Epstein has somehow"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "managed to embed himself inside the"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "largest arms deal in British history."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> The biggest arms contract that Britain"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "ever signed."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> The intermediaries were demanding"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "payments to be made into Swiss bank"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "accounts. They were demanding flats."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "They were demanding girls. Today, I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "going to show you the evidence that"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Epstein ran illegal arms deals and"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "became an intelligence asset while"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "committing some of history's most"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "horrific sex crimes. Because in the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "early 1980s, Epstein is working for a"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "man named Douglas Lee, who's a wealthy,"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "well-connected British defense"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "contractor and arms dealer. At the time,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "the British government is in the middle"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "of negotiating with Saudi Arabia the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "sale of nearly a hundred of their"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "advanced tornado fighter jets along with"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "thousands of laserg guided missiles and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "precision bombs. A lot is at stake with"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the Aly Yamama arms deal because it's"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "set to create 100,000 jobs in the UK,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "totally reshape the Middle East balance"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "of power, and earn the British defense"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "company BAE Systems $80 billion in"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "revenue. But there's a giant problem. In"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Saudi Arabia, deals were decided by"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "royal family members and princes. So if"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "you wanted a deal done, you paid these"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "guys enormous bribes. One man's"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "corruption was another man's way of"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "doing business. And that is where"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein came into the picture."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "This language and cultural barrier"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "required a new type of global fixer. He"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "allegedly worked with Douglas Lee as one"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "of the key people who helped design the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "financial structures that hid the bribe"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "money. Douglas Lee was one of the men"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "who allegedly bribed the Saudi family"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "and British officials. He was widely"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "believed to be an intelligence asset for"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "MI6. According to accounts from Lease's"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "son, Julian, and from Epstein's former"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "business partner, Steven Hoffenberg,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Lease mentored Epstein. This is where"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Epstein learned first how to create"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "shell companies and smuggle weapons and"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "move huge sums of money into offshore"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "accounts. Later investigations by the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "United States and British government"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "would reveal over a billion dollars"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "worth of offthe-books hidden"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "commissions, bribes, and kickbacks."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Because Saudi Arabia had paid in a mix"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "of oil shipments and cash, it all flowed"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "through offshore accounts,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "intermediaries, and hidden financial"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "structures that were designed to keep"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "the real money trail invisible. Through"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Douglas Lee, Epstein was introduced to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "the highly profitable cold war world of"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "illegal arms deals and financial"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "networks that concealed them. Supporting"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "evidence for Epstein's alleged"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "involvement in this arms deal comes from"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the FBI's 2019 raid of his New York City"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "apartment. In it, they confiscated a"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "fake Austrian passport from the 1980s"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "that showed a younger Epstein under a"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "totally different name. The entrance and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "exit stamps on the fake passport showed"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "evidence that it was used in the early"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "1980s to travel between France, Spain,"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the United Kingdom, and Saudi Arabia."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "The most damning piece of evidence is"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "that the times the passport was used to"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "travel match with those that were used"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "to facilitate the Alyama arms deal."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Austria, especially Vienna, has been one"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "of the world's biggest intelligence hubs"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "since the Cold War. But where did"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Epstein get a fake Austrian passport"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "from in the 1980s? Intelligence analyst"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Thomas Hamson said, quote, \"I can't"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "imagine Epstein getting a fake passport"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "or using one without official government"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "backing and cover. intelligence services"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "made counterfeit passports. In those"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "days, some organized crime groups could"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "have managed that as well, but it's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "unlikely that they were involved."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Evidence that his close associate,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Douglas Lee, was connected to"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "intelligence agencies comes from a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "filing in US courts years later that"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "states, quote, \"The nature and extent of"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "Lee's activities and his various"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "contacts around the world involve highly"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "sensitive and confidential information,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "some of which are believed to be"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "classified by the Department of Defense."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Why would intelligence agencies create a"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "passport for Epstein to help him with"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "this arms deal? MI6 and CIA wanted the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "arms deal to go through because it would"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "help contain Soviet influence. It would"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "give Saudi Arabia air dominance against"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Iran and it would help stabilize global"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "oil markets, keeping Saudi Arabia"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "tightly tied to Western block of"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "influence, which was critical. The arms"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "deal would lock Saudi Arabia into the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Western security ecosystem for many"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "decades to come. Epstein appeared to be"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "one of Douglas Lee's fixers on the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "ground inside Saudi Arabia helping"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "facilitate this arms deal. Diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "cables leaked years later would show"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "that Epstein's close associate, Prince"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Andrew, criticized the corruption"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "investigation into the Aliyama arms"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "deal. Prince Andrew tried to get any"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "audit of the deal shut down while he was"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "the UK's special representative for"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "international trade and investments."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Epstein functioned like he was a useful"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "tool through which Douglas Lee could add"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "one more layer of plausible deniability"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "to his allegedly illegal dealings. But"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "that doesn't even scratch the surface"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "because Epstein's about to get involved"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "in Iran Contra and become an"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "intelligence asset. We'll analyze this"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "with today's sponsor, Ground News. Here"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "we see there's new evidence that shows"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Epstein sent £10,000 to Ambassador Peter"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Mandlesson's partner. The email suggests"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Lord Mandlesson gave Epstein advanced"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "notice of an impending EU bailout, sent"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "him internal government information"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "about the state of the UK economy, and"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "lobbyed the Treasury on banking policy"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "at Epstein's suggestion. Ground News"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "allows me to see the quick facts. It"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "shows me the bias of each source and"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "rating of how factual it is. So, I stick"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "with resources that are only high in"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "factuality. I use ground news to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "research this episode because especially"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "when you're looking into corruption,"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "scandals, and government officials, you"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "need to be able to check where each"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "media source gets their actual funding"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "from. Some sources have in the past been"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "revealed to be arms of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "agencies. We appreciate Ground News"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "sponsoring the production work in this"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "video. 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Douglas Lee became Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "first major client at his consulting"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "firm called International Assets Group."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "It was Lee who introduced Epstein to"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Adnan Kosigible, the billionaire"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Turkishborn Saudi arms dealer, who stood"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "at the center of the Alyamama deal. By"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "1987, Epstein had become Kosogible's"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "personal money manager, giving him"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "direct access to one of the most"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "powerful weapons brokers on the planet."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "A source who spoke with journalist Vicky"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Ward confirmed that Koshogi was one of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Epstein's clients and this connection"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "opened the door to a much darker world."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Kosigible was the prototype of the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "modern black market arms broker. A man"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "who knew how to move weapons, money, and"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "influence across borders without leaving"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "any fingerprints. By the 1980s, that"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "underground system had grown into a"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "parallel global economy. United Nations"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "investigations and data from the small"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "arms survey show that illicit arms"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "trafficking was generating up to$10"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "billion dollar a year during the late"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "cold war. Proxy wars in Africa, Latin"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "America, and the Middle East and Asia"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "were fueled by this shadow network of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "dealers, financers, and fixers operating"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "beyond the reach of any single"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "government. Weapons passed through shell"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "companies in Panama and airlines that"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "were fronts for intelligence agencies,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "all to hide and obiscate their true"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "origin. This complicated network"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "required global power brokers and"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "middlemen to handle and manage it. There"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "was nothing new about profiting from"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "war. But for the first time in history,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "it had to be done in a way that gave"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "global governments complete plausible"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "deniability. This meant using middlemen"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "with loose morals and allegiances like"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Kosigible, Lease, and Epstein. At the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "same time, Kosigible was one of the main"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "brokers behind the Iran Contra arms"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "deal. Arranged through back channels"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "inside the US government. The operation"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "shipped more than 2,000 tow anti-tank"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "missiles, around 500 Hawk surfaceto-air"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "missiles, and roughly 200 Sidewinder"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "air-to-air missiles to Iran, all in"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "violation of US law. The deal was worth"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "about $140 million in today's money and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "that cash was routed through foreign"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "accounts and offshore networks then"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "redirected to fund the contra rebels"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "fighting in Nicaragua. And according to"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Steven Hoffenberg, he alleged that"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein was part of the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "financial side of this weapons dealing"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "system. He allegedly helped Kosigible"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "move, structure, and hide his"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "commissions from these arms deals using"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "shell companies and overseas accounts."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "This claim of Epstein's involvement in"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "arms deals is also made by Ari Ben"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Manashi, who is a former Israeli"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "intelligence officer who stated that"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Epstein was selling US weapon systems"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "from Israel directly to Iran as part of"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "another covert arms deal that was"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "separate from Iran Contra. But global"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "black market arm sales rose to over 20"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "billion annually by the 1990s. During"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the peak cold war years, covert arms"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "pipelines supplied conflicts in"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Afghanistan, Mongolia, Lebanon,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Cambodia, and Iran simultaneously. And"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "that's just scratching the surface. And"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the world's governments looked the other"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "way because it was useful to them."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Epstein's business partner, Kosogible,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "was a principal foreign agent of the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "United States. He established the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "intelligence partnership between"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "multiple nations known as the Safari"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Club. The Safari Club was a covert"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "alliance of intelligence services from"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "France, the United States, and Israel."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "It ran clandestine operations around"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Africa, and the world during the 70s and"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "early 80s. The Safari Club was one of"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "the ways that the CIA supported arms"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "deals and its proxy networks. Cartels,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "criminals, terrorists, and intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "services use the same bank to launder"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "their illicit funds for their operations"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "called the Bank credit commerce"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "international. It was in this shadowy"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "world of arms deals, fraud, and offshore"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "accounts that Epstein allegedly became"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "an expert and made himself"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "indispensable. According to the New York"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Times, Jeffrey Epstein rented a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "penthouse office at the Hotel St. Martis"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "on Central Park South with John Stanley"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Potenberg. Pottenberg was a lawyer who"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "had recently left a senior post in the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Justice Department in the United States."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Under the CIA's direction, Pottenberg"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "then advised a banker from Iran on how"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "to ship embargoed arms to Iran using"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "fraudulent paperwork. They used overseas"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "dummy companies basically. But this was"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "at the same time when he was working"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "with Jeffrey Epstein on the so-called"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "tax avoidance strategies. We know from"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "later disclosures that British"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "intelligence MI6 and the American CIA"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "were deeply involved in these arms"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "deals. Israeli intelligence helped the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Iran Contra deal go through according to"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "US government internal investigation"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "documents. What all this means is that"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "during this time Epstein showed himself"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "to be a reliable asset who had no"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "morals, which is what these ruthless"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "intelligence agencies look for."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "According to testimony given by Steven"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Hoffenberg, a former close associate and"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "business partner, Jeffrey Epstein was"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "also helping Douglas Lee with the sale"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "of Chinese weapons to Iran through the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Chinese communist state-owned defense"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "company Nuringo. We know that during the"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "1980s, China supplied HY2 silkworm"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "anti-ship cruise missiles to Iran and"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "signed weapons agreements worth over"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "$4.8 billion with Iran. If Epstein was"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "making millions of dollars in"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "commissions from these arms deals and"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "hiding this money, it would go a long"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "way in explaining where his fortune came"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "from. It didn't seem like he had any"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "value system really. He didn't operate"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "in the interest of any one country"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "during this time. He facilitated these"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "deals to enrich himself and to gain"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "further power and to make himself"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "untouchable. It was Jeffrey Epstein who"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "created the financial network to enable"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "these illicit arms deals to go through."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "This meant Epstein saw himself as"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "outside the law, not accountable to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "anyone. And it was around this time in"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "the mid1 1980s that Epste started"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "bragging to people close to him that he"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "worked for intelligence agencies and"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "that he was untouchable. Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "officers are someone who are directly"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "trained, employed, and worked for a"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "country's interests. An intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "agent, on the other hand, is the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "definition of someone who secretly works"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "for an intelligence service by providing"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "information or carrying out tasks under"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "a handler's direction. Epstein was an"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "asset who's someone who provides value"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "to an intelligence service with"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "information, access, or services. That"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "would have afforded Epstein incredible"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "protection with authorities looking the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "other way at some of his horrific crimes"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "that he's about to commit. Access agents"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "are often people in high-end society or"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "people who have links to top scientific"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "researchers, bankers, politicians, and"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "cultural talents. Jeffree surrounded"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "himself by all of these. Thomas Hamson,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "an intelligence analyst, said, quote,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "\"Consider this. Christopher Steel's"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "network of influential contacts,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "including highlevel intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "contacts, pald in comparison to"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Epstein's.\" If our FBI was willing to"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "pay Steele $1 million, imagine what they"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "would be willing to pay Epstein to use"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "his unique skills and extensive contacts"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "on behalf of the United States."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "According to Ari Ben Manashi, a former"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Israeli intelligence officer, he made"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "the shocking claim that Epstein and"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Galain Maxwell were running a honey trap"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "operation to blackmail global elites for"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "MSAD. Now, how would they have become"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "involved in such an operation? Epste met"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "the Lee family right after he left Bear"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Sterns in New York City in 1981."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "According to a New York Times"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "investigation, the two hit it off, and"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Douglas took an immediate liking to"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Epstein. These were the kind of people"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "who sipped 20-year-old scotch while"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "casually debating whether Aspen or"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Gustad had the better snow that season."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "The two would later have a falling out,"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and Epstein would go on to publicly"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "downplay and deny how close his"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "relationship really was with him. But"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the 2026 Epstein file release tells a"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "different story. Now, it reveals"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "multiple emails in which Epstein"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "discussed Lee, contacted his son, Julian"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Lee, directly, and stayed in touch with"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "people in Lease's circle for years."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Through Epstein's connections with"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Douglas Lee, he was introduced to Galain"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Maxwell and met her father, Robert"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "Maxwell. Maxwell is widely believed to"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "have had contacts in the MSAD, MI6, and"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Soviet KGB intelligence agencies."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "Another one of these highlevel fixers"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "for the very elite. After Robert"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Maxwell's mysterious death, his daughter"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "became Epstein's second in command."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Essentially, the earliest known instance"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "of them recruiting an underage girl was"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "in 1994. At the same time, hidden"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "surveillance cameras were installed"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "throughout his properties. Sexual"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "enttrapment has been a standard"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "intelligence tool for over a century."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "The Soviet system perfected this and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "called it compromat or compromising"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "material. The CIA conducted similar"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "operations, drugging men with"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "prostitutes to see what kind of drug and"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "blackmail tactics would work best to"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "extract confidential information in"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Operation Midnight Climax. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "victims testified that Epstein recruited"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "underage girls and instructed them to"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "bring friends, creating a recruitment"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "pipeline. Victims, including Virginia"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "Guthrie, stated under oath that they"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "were trafficked to wealthy and powerful"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "men, including politicians, royalty, and"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "businessmen. Several victims said"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Epstein kept records, photos, and"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "personal details, which they believed"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "were used for control and intimidation."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Then in 2007, it appeared like Epstein"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "was about to actually face"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "accountability for his crimes for the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "first time. He's arrested in Florida and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "charged with soliciting prostitution"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "with a minor. However, something"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "shocking happens. He receives an"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "insanely light slap on the wrist for his"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "crimes. The trial resulted in the most"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "lenient sentence that a serial sex"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "criminal has ever received just 18"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "months of work release. The prosecution"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "entered into a secret nonprosecution"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "agreement with Epstein. According to a"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Daily Beast article, Alex Aosta, who was"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the former US attorney who prosecuted"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the case, Acasta was later asked why"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "this light plea deal happened and he"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "said, \"I was told Epstein belonged to"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "intelligence and was above his pay grade"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "and to back off.\" This statement was not"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "on the record officially, and he would"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "later deny 2025 ever making it. Aosta"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "lost his job as US Secretary of Labor"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "mainly because of the widespread"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "criticism of how he handled Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "prosecution. If this sounds like a crazy"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "conspiracy, it shouldn't because it"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "actually fits a long pattern in US"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "history where people tied to"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "intelligence operations are shielded"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "from prosecution. Whitey Bulier was an"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "FBI asset protected for decades despite"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "committing murders and extortion. Barry"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Seal moved tons of cocaine for cartels"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "while working with US agencies and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "repeatedly avoided serious prison time."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Mark Rich evaded prosecution for massive"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "financial crimes and was ultimately"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "pardoned by the president at the time"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "because of his geopolitical connections."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "But another pattern, as we'll see, is"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "that no one is able to outlive their"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "usefulness, and when they become"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "liabilities, they often end up dead or"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "missing. Epstein's ties to intelligence"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "communities continued after his"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "prosecution. Even since 2003, Epstein"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "had become close friends with Ahoud"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Barack, the former prime minister of"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Israel and former head of Israel's"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "military intelligence directorate. The"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "2026 Epstein file dump revealed a"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "confidential human source to the FBI,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "claiming they had become convinced that"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Epstein was spying for the MSAD."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "However, tips to the FBI do not require"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "any official proof and notes on the file"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "claim that the FBI did not independently"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "verify the information. What we are left"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "with then is evidence of Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "donating money to various organizations"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "in Israel. He also helped negotiate"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "security agreements from Israel to West"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "African nations. His connection with"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "intelligence agencies around the world"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "reveal a shocking look at how he"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "operated outside the law. The ties also"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "extend to Russian intelligence services."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "In a 2014 email exchange between Epstein"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "and Sergey Bellov, Russia's deputy"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "minister of economic development,"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Bellicov was a trained FSB spy. Epstein"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "emailed Belov asking advice on how to"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "deal with a Russian escort who was"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "attempting to blackmail one of his"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "business friends. Bellov said he'd look"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "into the woman and he writes back with a"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "full dossier report on who she is,"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "determining that she quote has no one"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "behind her, meaning that she's not"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "connected to anyone powerful in Russia."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "Epstein then writes himself a draft"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "email on how he's going to respond to"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "the woman. And he says he consulted some"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "friends in the FSB who said that she"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "would be considered an enemy of the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "people and dealt with extremely harshly"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "if she continued to threaten US"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "businessmen and jeopardize potential"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "investments in Russia's economy."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Bellikov helped Epstein secure visas to"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "visit Russia and told him about his work"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "in the Russian government. After"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "essentially getting away with horrific"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "sex crimes, Epstein became emboldened"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "and started doing interviews with the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "press, claiming that he was influencing"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "foreign affairs in multiple countries"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "and that he'd made a fortune off arms"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "deals and diamonds. In his last known"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "interview with the New York Times"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "reporter in 2018, he even said flat out"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "that he had dirt on very powerful"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "people. A year later, authorities claim"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "that they found him dead in his prison"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "cell in New York City. Out of the new"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "2026 Epstein files, we learned that"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers filed Freedom"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "of Information Act requests to the"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "National Security Agency and the CIA"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "asking for any proof that they might"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "have that Epstein was an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "asset. They were searching for anything"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "that they could use as proof to help"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "them in their defense. And this is what"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "the CIA sent in return to Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "attorneys. It says, \"We search for CIA"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "originated responsive records that might"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "reflect any open or otherwise"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "acknowledged agency affiliation. With"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "respect to responsive records that would"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "reveal a classified connection to the"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "CIA, the CIA can neither confirm nor"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "deny the existence or non-existence of"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "records responsive to your request."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "Another attempt in 2014 reached a"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "similar outcome. What the Epstein files"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "ultimately showed us is that there is an"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "entire hidden system that services the"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "demand for illicit weapons and"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "intelligence. It confirmed our worst"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "suspicions that this system protects the"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "powerful no matter how destructive they"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "might become. Check out this video on"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "the history of US Black Ops inside China"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "or this playlist on covert operations."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "This is the US Army's new RM338. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "the world's most powerful machine gun"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "that a single soldier can carry."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> It has basically twice the firepower and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "twice the range."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> The highly classified prototype brings"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "the gigantic firepower of a 50 cal down"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "into a more manageable manportable"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "package. It's a real life BFG from Doom"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "that fires the humongous 338 normagnum"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "round at 525 rounds per minute straight"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "into the enemy's teeth. So, the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "ballistics of the 338 Norma are very,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "very similar to 50 cal ballistics. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "about 2 to 3% off. That's awesome. Proof"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "of its influence in the firearms world"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "is that in response to the appearance of"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "this beast, we saw the Chinese People's"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Liberation Army is now racing to copy I"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "I mean develop their own 338 machine"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "gun. So, a lot is at stake with this new"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "weapon. Which is why I flew out to"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "beautiful sunshiny Texas to visit the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "defense company True Velocity to find"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "out what new firearms technology made"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "this possible, the unique tactics that"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "this beast allows for, and whether it"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "will replace the Army's M240, the M250"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "cal, or neither. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "infant, Chris Cappy, and let's find out"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "how many people made fun of me in the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "comments section for cosplaying. The"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "problem this weapon solves for is that"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "for more than 20 years, American"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "infantry either had to hump around the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "M240 and they got outranged in the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "mountains or they brought a 50 cal with"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "a dang forklift. The 338 machine gun"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "began development in response to this"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "problem in 2010. That specific tactical"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "issue. The US Army's irregular warfare"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "office ordered the system telling them"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "to make something that would make me"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "legitimately HOA unironically. The RM338"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "is one of the final contenders in the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Army's future medium machine gun"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "program, which is worth over $3.5"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "billion to the winner. And well, nothing"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "to the loser. General Dynamics were the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "first original team to start work on"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "perfecting the lightweight medium"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "machine gun. Its job would be to plug"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "that wide open capability gap between"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "the two weapons with this portable"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "50-ish effect. Ew. That that gap is"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "gaping. It's wide open. As our method of"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "fighting wars changed over time, the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "need to have greater capability with"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "smaller units and for units to impact a"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "greater area on the battlefield. So, we"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "started development on this weapon"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "system. Thanks to new advances in"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "ammunition and precision machining, this"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "weapons cartridge has triple the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "performance compared to the M240762."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "The bullet has over 6,300 jewels of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "muzzle energy. That's absolutely insane."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "The round is actually closer to a 50 cal"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "effect on target, but it's half the size"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "and weight. Just because it's more"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "powerful doesn't necessarily mean it's"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "more better. Is it legitimately"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "necessary? Before we get into that, you"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "guys already know by now I'm not some"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "elite financial guy. I'm just your"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "regular infantryman. But even I can see"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "how fast things can go sideways. 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But the RM338 platform itself is"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "unique in that it is only 49 in long"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "with a standard 24-in barrel all"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "weighing at about 25 lbs unloaded, which"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "is all roughly the same as the M240."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "We're going to show some different"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "transitions with the machine gun. How it"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "feels to go into the firing position,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "shoot off a couple rounds, get up, move"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "to a new position. Right now, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "walking like this, it reminds me of the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "240."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> The 338 Norma cartridge is a very"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "capable cartridge. flies at about 2750"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "feet per second. So at the muzzle, if we"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "compare to 762, at the muzzle, it"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "delivers about five times the energy"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "that a 762 cartridge would deliver. This"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "cartridge maintains supersonic"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "performance out beyond 1700 m. So it"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "retains its energy, it retains its"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "velocity, which leads to greater energy"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "on target, greater accuracy on target"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "because it's moving fast. That means as"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "a machine gunner, you're hitting targets"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "at 1,700 m away with direct fire instead"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "of what's called plunging fire. As"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "machine gunners know, that's when you"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "aim up the sky and fire rounds, praying"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "to the Kentucky windage gods that you'll"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "hit your target. The army knows they"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "have a huge problem here because"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "plunging fires lower velocity and can't"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "penetrate through Chinese armored, I"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "mean any armored vehicles at that"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "distance. 338 machine gun totally"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "reshapes grunt tactics. From how you"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "plan your patrolbased defense down to"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "the way the classic American infantry"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "squad is even organized. 338 will give"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "your platoon on that small outpost in"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "the South China Sea longer standoff"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "range against the enemy. It will allow"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "you to engage the baddies with less"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "visual and audible signature in ways"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "that the 50 and M240 we'll see cannot."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "It's exactly the kind of distributed"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "small bases that the army expects to"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "fight in large-scale combat in the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "future. But how accurate is she, you"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "ask? In past interviews, True Velocity"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "has claimed an accuracy of 2 1/2 to 4"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "AMR, which is like a minute of angle for"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "a beltfed machine gun that level of"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "accuracy is kind of nuts. But if the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "RM338 is so hot, why hasn't she been"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "adopted yet? Well, by 2014, the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "unlimited money train from the global"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "war on terror was drying up. So the"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "project was shelved and we were blue"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "ballalled for years until 2017 when"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "SOCOM special forces dusted the idea off"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "and requested the weapon once more"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "saying that they wanted to acquire 5,000"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "of them coincided with a broader push by"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "big army to update their entire"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "inventory of small arms. So all this"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "breathed new life into the forgotten"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "program. But I think the big"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "million-doll question is what does this"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "weapon actually replace? It isn't"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "exactly a replacement for the M240 or"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the 50 cal. It's more like a whole new"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "capability in and of itself. But it's"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "confusing because in public and in"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "budget documents, the army is officially"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "calling the weapon a replacement for the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "M240. But the M240 is also likely going"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "to stick around for many decades to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "come. It's a much beloved and trusted"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "weapon system by troops that have used"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "it since 1977, including myself when I"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "was in a heavy weapon squad in Iraq. The"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "answer to what it's replacing comes from"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "this 2026 budget document that I dug up"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "stmming out here. It states that the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "future media machine gun as it's now"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "called is intended to replace M240s"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "inside the closed combat force, the CCF,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "meaning you know your your hitters. The"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "FMMG will increase squad survivability"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "and lethality in large scale combat"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "operations. But meanwhile, at the same"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "time, beginning in 2024, SOCOM Special"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Operations Command began looking at"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "adopting this 338 machine gun to replace"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "some of their 50 cals. So, is it for the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "240 or the 50? For years, the Marine"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Corps also looked at this system as"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "replacement for both the 50 and the 240."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "But really, when you think about it,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "it's almost a whole new capability."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> And this has sparked a wider debate"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "about exactly what role this new machine"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "gun should or shouldn't play in the"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "squad. right now uh between uh Special"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Operations Command, Marine Corps, Army,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "the discussions we've had and and other"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "members of industry have had, they're"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "spending a lot of time and effort trying"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to figure out how to best incorporate"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "technology into our doctrine and the way"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "we fight and then our organization, our"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "TOE. The Army itself doesn't know"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "exactly how the weapon fits in yet. But"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "the reason the beloved 50 cal will not"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "truly get replaced is because its rounds"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "are large enough to fit explosive"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "incendiary charges and fuses in there"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "that can hit targets out at 2,000 m."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Take a look at the typical line infantry"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "platoon setup. This graphic comes from"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "battleorder.org. They also have a great"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "YouTube channel. You should check them"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "out. For decades, it's been two of the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "way smaller M249 machine guns per squad"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and the rest of them all have M4s"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "basically. And then each platoon has one"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "heavy weapon squad which has two of the"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "M240 Bravo machine guns. So the big"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "question is will each platoon get one"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "338 machine gun and keep the 240s and"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "just compile them or will be a different"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "arrangement altogether? There are a lot"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "of different possible permutations."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "That's a word I haven't said since high"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "school. I think the point is the army"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "doesn't exactly know yet but they have"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "to figure it out soon. And it's exactly"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "that point is is this weapon system does"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "this replace a vehicle or rotary wing"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "mounted weapon system? Is this a"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "dismounted weapon? Well, maybe for some"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "units it is and it makes sense. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "for other ones it's no. Our 762 machine"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "gun does everything we need."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> Part of the reason they're technically"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "saying that it's a replacement for the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "240 is because it's easier for big army"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "to justify the spending that way. If"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "they can show that this new weapon"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "system reasonably doubles lethality,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "it's more clear why it's being acquired."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "And one of the ways the army gains"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "funding for projects is by explaining in"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "black and white terms what the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "capability gap is instead of saying,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "\"Yeah, we're just adding a whole new"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "weapon here and you're going to see how"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "it fits in later.\" And this definitely"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "does all those defense buzzwords wrapped"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "into a military word burrito sandwich,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "including modularity. Something else"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "that the machine gun does that a 240 and"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "50 cal do not typically offer is this"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "kind of firepower with a suppressor."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> To manage the pressure and heat"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "generated by a rapid fire weapon system"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "and then to effectively contain that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "pressure and heat with multiple rounds"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "fired per second is a a very difficult"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "challenge. A conventionally designed"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "suppressor will rapidly heat up to a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "point where a material fails because you"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "exceed the thermal properties of that"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "material. Generally speaking, across"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "calibers, approximately 20 del reduction"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "in sound. Very, very effective at"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "eliminating flash. And in some cases,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "flash is the most important thing. When"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "you're shooting at night and a machine"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "guns up on a hill, if there's flash,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "enemy forces can immediately determine"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "where your most casualty producing"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "weapon is. True Velocity claims to have"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "fired 30,000 rounds through these"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "suppressors that they're still using to"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "this day, which is extremely high"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "durability. But is this performance"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "increase actually worth the potential"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "logistics headache of adding a whole new"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "round to the squad? Would you rather"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "have a few hundred rounds of perfect"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "most pristine S tier ammunition or"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "thousands of filthy dirty good enough"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "rounds? Yeah, you you know the type of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "round, the one that'll shoot through any"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "old dirty filthy gun that's been around"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "the block. To that, the Army claims that"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "they can ramp up production of the 338"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "linked rounds fast enough. Press X to"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "doubt here if you so choose. What were"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "some of the technological advances that"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "made this possible where it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "possible before 2010. So to fire a"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "powerful cartridge, the 338 Norma has"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "more than twice the impulse of a 762. It"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "it's a magnum cartridge. It generates a"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "lot of recoil. There's something called"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "short recoil impulse averaging and it's"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "a mechanical methodology that we have to"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "manage both momentum and impulse in the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "weapon system that allows this weapon"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "system to have the recoil of a 240"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "machine gun shooting 762"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> that the team that worked on this weapon"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "originally developed for the cancelled"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "XM 806 which was itself ironically or"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "coincidentally a lightweight 50 cal"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": ">> at different times during the cycle of"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "operation we're able to physically"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "eliminate 50% of the recoil force or the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "impulse generated by this 338 Norma. We"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "turn the overall impulse down to what"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "you'd similarly have with the 762 uh"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "cartridge."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> You think compared to"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Yeah, it's got less recoil and it feels"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "like one constant push"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> instead of like a dump dump dump dump"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "dump. This RM338 machine gun is unique"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "in that it operates off both short"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "recoil and gas. What that means is the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "barrel and the bolt move together"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "briefly with buffer spring, spreading"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "out that extra recoil. They also"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "redesigned the barrel change so that you"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "can swap it out with one hand, which"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "sounds like a small change, but when"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "you're under fire and you're totally"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "smoked, the time saved matters. The"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "weapon is set to fire at about 525"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "rounds per minute, which is about 20%"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "slower than the M240. The faster and"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "slower rate of fire can negatively or"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "positively impact your rate of ammo"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "burn, your accuracy, and your"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "controllability. And the next big"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "question I would have as an average"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "infantryman though is does it increase"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "the mechanical complexity? Will taking"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "it apart hurt my brain bucket? Will this"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "be a pain to maintain? And when you do"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "take it apart, are we talking about a"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "lot more moving pieces and things that"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "we have to worry about because of the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "recoil mitigation?"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> It's actually much simpler. The"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "operating group when it comes apart has"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "five five major components. So, uh"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "between 60 and 80,000 round life of the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "of the main operating group parts, but"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "this weapon system, if we're counting"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "total part count, has about 30% fewer"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "parts than an M240 Bravo. When I was in"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "the field, they tore the system apart in"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "front of me, and it field strips very"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "quickly down to just a few pieces, which"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "which shocked me. Now, I'm not allowed"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "to show any images from inside under the"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "skirt of the weapon system because"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "they're still competing to win this"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "program and I signed a bunch of NDAs in"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "blood and I've been assured that defense"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "industry lawyers do not around. However,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "what I am allowed to say that's"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "unclassified is that this machine gun is"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "part of a concept that has defined"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "American smallarms development over the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "past 10 years known as overmash. The"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "idea is that your weapons should not"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "just have the same capabilities as the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "enemy, but it should instead far"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "outmatch them. The RM338 would have"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "twice the range and penetration compared"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "to the PKM fired by the Russians, which"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "allegedly fires a round that outdistance"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "the M240."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> There are a few things that are"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "different about this uh maybe upgrades"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "or feature enhancements to this that you"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "won't find on a currently fielded uh"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "machine gun. First of all, we have a"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "select fire trigger. It gives a"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "capability they don't currently have."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> That's auto."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": ">> that's semi-auto"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "release. You can charge this one on"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "safe. You know, 240 won't let charge on"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "safe."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": ">> Dave Stoer goes on to explain that it's"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "capable of single round hits at 400 plus"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "meters with close to DMR like precision."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "It's twice as accurate compared to"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "automatic fire mode. There's a machine"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "gunner or two watching this right now"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "thinking that would be mighty useful in"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "an overwatch role, counter sniper, or to"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "be able to shoot down filthy, dirty"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "clanker drones. All old machine gun"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "mounted optics to the feed cover, which"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "is why your zero in the past wandered"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "all over the place and you couldn't hit"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "accurately. But the RM338 mounts all"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "those optics to a fixed receiver route."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "So once you zero it, it stays zeroed."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "That alone is a generational upgrade."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Quality of life improvements are folding"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "stock that fits into a tiny vehicle. You"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "can swap in a butterfly trigger if your"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "heart desires. It can be converted to"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "the 762 firing in under a few minutes"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "for shooting cheaper training rounds."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "But some of the most beloved things"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "about the M240 and the M2 Mod Deuce has"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "always been their reliability and"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "durability. Old trustee, is this new"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "weapon able to match that?"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": ">> So, our first maintenance is at 2,000"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "rounds and that's just wipe and oil."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "First cleaning uh at least in our manual"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "is at 4,000 rounds. We have gone out and"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "done 10,000 round fire tests with just a"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "little bit of oil added to the weapon"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "halfway through. The gas system does not"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "require any maintenance. It's highly"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "reliable. We fired in the development of"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "this weapon more than 350,000 rounds"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "either in test, demonstration,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "development. 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The Ukrainian soldiers from"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the K2 Battalion have prepared for this"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "by setting up interlocking fields of"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "fire with their machine gun and RPG"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "teams. The combat footage was recorded"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "by the K2 Battalion of the 54th"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Mechanized Brigade. A link to donate to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "them is in the description. The first"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "thing that stands out to me here is that"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "the Russian soldiers have surprisingly"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "chosen to do this assault during"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "daytime. This might seem like an unusual"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "plan, but since they don't have access"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "to night vision equipment, these"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "soldiers are forced to make the exposed"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "head-on assault during the most risky"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "part of the day. Because of this,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "they're spotted by surveillance UAVs"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "flying overhead almost immediately. But"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "the reason they're doing this is so that"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "they can safely navigate the minefield."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "You can see how the Russian car is"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "weaving around, and that's because"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "they're following in the already cleared"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "path of the armored vehicle's treads"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "from previous assaults. They know that"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "following those treads is safe. These"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Russians are now crossing into the kill"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "zone of machine guns and RPGs. Can they"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "survive it? 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So, try Aura free for 14 days by"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "going to my link or.com/cappy"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "army. In 2 weeks, Aura will get to work"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "scrubbing your personal information off"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "these data broker sites. I'm not leaving"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "myself vulnerable, and you shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "either. The Russian soldiers appear to"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "lean out the back of the vehicle as it's"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "moving. And the soldier shoots a bunch"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "of shots at the bomber drone that's"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "tailing about 10 meters up in the air"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "close behind the car. We can see the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "tracer rounds missing their target as"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "small arms fire flies into the sky. The"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Russian storm unit is now well within"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "small arms distance of the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "soldiers. And here is where a few rounds"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "impact the vehicle. You can see it"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "slamming into the windshield in the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "front. We see more bullet hits and"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "sparks and glass flying everywhere. Even"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "without any armor on the car, the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Russian occupants got lucky and none of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the shots hit them, even as the bullets"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "ping off the vehicle. The rounds"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "miraculously missed the driver and the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Russian troops continue into a small"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "ravine. And according to the K2 unit,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "this footage was taken after months of"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "daily direct assaults by tanks and"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "armored MTLBs and BMPs. We see evidence"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "of the burned out husks of armor that"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "were able to get within about a 100"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "meters of Ukrainian fighting positions"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "in the trenches. But this is when"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Russians switch tactics to using these"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "unarmored civilian vehicles. It's tough"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "to see from the overhead angle, but"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "they're reaching a depression in the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "terrain that puts them in this ravine"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "that is out of direct line of sight of"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the Ukrainian small arms fire. A"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Ukrainian RPG fired from about 50 to 100"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "meters away hits to the right of the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Russian car, just barely missing and"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "sending up a huge explosion. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "round was likely an anti-armour version"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "of the RPG, which doesn't send as much"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "shrapnel everywhere. It shows that the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "weapons the Ukrainians prepared were for"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "in preparation of an armored assault,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "not so much for a car assault. And in"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "this instance, it's worked in the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Russians favor because an anti-personnel"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "RPG would have done more damage. The"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Russian car marked 03 on the hood there"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "looks like something out of an"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "apocalyptic movie with its doors ripped"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "off, rusty exterior, and the number just"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "painted onto the hood. The Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "strategy here using the civilian car is"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "an attempt to gain less attention"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "compared to using armored vehicles that"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "have an audio and visual signature that"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "show up more from drone surveillance."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "And these converted civilian cars cost"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "nothing to lose because they're"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "reportedly taken from citizens in the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "occupied territory. The Ukrainian K2"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Battalion has the goal of dismantling"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "this assault group before they're able"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "to gain a foothold. The Russian car"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "marked 03 reaches their drop off point"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "here, right behind the burned out"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "armored vehicle. From here, they're only"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "about 50 m away from Ukrainian positions"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "in the trench line. According to the K2"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "battalion, the overhead Ukrainian UAV"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "drops a grenadesiz munition now, and it"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "lands directly in front of the vehicle"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "with a huge explosion. Them munition"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "sends hundreds of small pieces of metal"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "shrapnel flying out in this 360°ree arc,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "slamming into a Russian soldier. One of"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "the four Russian soldiers has been"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "killed while the other two make their"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "way to a position of cover. The first"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "soldier who disembarked from the car,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "ran around that armored vehicle there."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Instead of taking cover there, he"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "continues pushing forward toward the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "trench in this no man's gray zone land"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "here with no cover. He's shot at with"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "small arms rounds and several machine"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "gun rounds tear through the Russian"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "soldier and he's KIA instantly. The K2"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "battalion responsible for defending here"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "is at a critical part of the front line"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "near Seesque in the Donetsk. Now"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "defending this location is critical"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "because it's about protecting the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "northern shoulder of Ukraine's Dunbos"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "defense line and preventing Russia from"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "cracking open a new operational axis"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "here. After dropping off the Russian"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "infantry here, the driver of the car,"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "marked 03, turns around and he quickly"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "makes a U-turn and heads back to the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "pickup site to pick up more soldiers as"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "a battle taxi. The single lone Russian"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "soldier left behind at the APC is the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "only survivor of the storm assault at"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "this point. Small arms rounds ricochet"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "all around him, and we see the dirt kick"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "up from behind him from near misses."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Then shots land on him, killing him"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "after a few moments. The driver of the"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "car marked 03 has made it out of the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "kill zone and has almost made it home"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "free back 1,000 m back towards the final"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "tree line out of the minefield. In this"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "final stretch after making it through"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "all the bombs and shots in the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "windshield, the driver connects with a"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "landmine blowing the vehicle up. The car"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "without any armor is torn to pieces in"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "the explosion from the landmine. But"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "that's just the beginning of the assault"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and what happens next blew my mind. The"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Russian commander then sends out another"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "car. This one marked 02. A Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "soldier fires an anti-tank RPG, misses"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the 02 car by just a few feet. It looks"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "like a mine is detonated, but it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "destroy the car. It keeps barreling"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "forward. The second assault storm group"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "here is making faster progress, pushing"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "straight through the kill zone and"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "making it past the landmines. Here we"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "get a good view of the trench line and"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the close proximity that the Russian car"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "is to it. It's likely that from the"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "vehicle's perspective, they can't see on"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "the ground how close they are to the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "trench line, and they don't realize that"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "they're right there. The strategy with"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "minefields, when you're doing it by the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "book, by the field manual, is for them"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "to get more and more dense as they get"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "closer and closer to that trench. And"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "there's multiple UAVs dropping grenades,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "and further back from here, there are"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "artillery positions. The Russian car"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "makes it to the low point in the ravine"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "again that offers some cover from the"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "small arms positions. But in between the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "two assaults, the Ukrainian infantry"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "have moved through the trench line to"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "now find better firing lines on the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Russian reinforcements. The four Russian"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "soldiers disembark from the car. The"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "driver even gets out this time and makes"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "his way over to the cover to take cover"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "behind that same burned out armored"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "vehicle. A repositioned Ukrainian RPG"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "team lands a direct hit. The munition"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "flies between them and hits the car"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "marked 02, detonating the fuel tank. and"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "the explosion eliminates three of the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "four soldiers. A remaining Russian"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "soldier tries to take cover in the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "crater, but another RPG slams into them."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "This Russian assault was stopped, but"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the new tactic here of using smaller"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "cars and lighter vehicles was able to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "get them to within 50 m of the trench."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "And this strategy of head-on fullfrontal"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "motorcycle, horses, motorized assaults"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "has been able to take over some"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Ukrainian trenches and has gained Russia"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "territory over the past 2 years. In this"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "direction, Russia has moved forward in"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "the last year with these type of light"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "motorized assaults, but we see it came"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "at a steep cost. Head-on assaults are"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "dangerous for whoever has that job, no"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "matter who you are. Charging head first"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "into the enemy defenses as a storm unit"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "is the most dangerous assignment. You're"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "looking at declassified combat footage"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "here of a dense treeine packed with"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Russian defenders near a canal in"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Bakmoon. The platoon of 30 Russians are"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "in fighting positions in numerous"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "shelters here, various bunkers that make"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "up the trench system in this wooded"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "area. It makes up a kind of belt of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "shelters that run about 600 m deep. A"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "fire team of four Ukrainian soldiers are"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "sent to dislodge the Russians with an"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "M113 armored vehicle that has a 50 cal"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "machine gun mounted on top. And we'll"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "see a surprise asset joins them at the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "end of the battle to turn the tide. The"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "tactic that they're using is dismounting"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "about a 100 meters from the line of"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "contact. They move up on foot next to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "the armored vehicles while it lays down"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "suppressing fire to keep the enemy's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "heads down. The Ukrainians"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "counterintuitively are outnumbered here"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "even though they're assaulting forward,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "but their APC and explosive give them a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "slight advantage or at least makes it"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "more of an even fight. Be sure to check"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "out the Third Assault Brigade's YouTube"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "channel for the full footage here. The"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "commander is named Kai Farch. I met"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "these third assault brigade guys when I"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "reported from Ukraine and I can confirm"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "they're hardcore using the suppressing"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "fire from the vehicle as cover. The"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "commander fires a Matador shoulder fired"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "rocket propelled grenade launcher at the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "enemy only 50 m away. This was likely a"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "high explosive round sending shrapnel"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "everywhere. The fire team moves into the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "woods from here and begins their"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "assault. They stay online, focusing on"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "their field of fire directly in front of"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "them, and they try not to get distracted"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "too much by what's happening to their"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "far limits to the left and right. They"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "have to trust their buddies to cover"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "those positions. It's important for"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "infantry during an assault to not go"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "into their buddy's line of fire, so they"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "stay online while moving up. The"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Ukrainian commander Far calls his"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "soldiers over so he can bring another"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "anti-personnel shoulder fired rocket."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "They communicate effectively and shout"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "out the distance and direction of the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "enemy dugout. Farch fires a rocket into"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "They lay down a suppressive fire as they"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "move up, assaulting the objective."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "They've gained fire superiority, which"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "is crucial."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "This allows the team to push up and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "advance through the tree line, making"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "slow progress just a few meters at a"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "time. Fighting in a wooded field is"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "dangerous because any one of those piles"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "of leaves could be a dugout with Russian"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "troops in it. Any one of those branch"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "piles could have an AK-47 waiting in it"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "as we'll see now. Call sign chef gets"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "injured and they begin applying first"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "aid and then they go straight back to"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "firing. Their rounds are landing just 10"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "meters in front of them showing how far"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "away they're aiming showing that the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "enemy is right there in close combat."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Call signer Anubis and Chef are there"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "with Far and the team brings up another"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "launcher and fires it at the enemy"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "position. Moving up is impossible"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "without constantly hitting with"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "explosives. Even though these explosives"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "are landing nearby their target, not"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "directly on it, it may seem like they're"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "completely missing and having no effect."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "But in reality, if you're standing just"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "a few feet from one of these explosions,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "it's going to rock your bell. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "concussive pressure from it will make it"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "difficult to return fire accurately or"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "at all. This volume of fire allows them"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "to assault forward and get within hand"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "grenade range. And they land a grenade"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "directly in the dugout to direct hit."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "They put more rounds into the dugout to"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "be sure that it's neutralized and they"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "throw grenades in there. As they move to"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the next dugout, one of the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "soldiers is hit. They provide covering"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "fire while another soldier recovers the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "wounded. Far begins launching grenades"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "at the mouth of the dugout. They take a"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "break from the assault to loot the"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "Russian gear from the other positions"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "for weapons that might help them push"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "forward from here. They find a PKM,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "grenades, an RPG, exactly what they"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "need. Far radios to the vehicle that"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "they recovered a bunch of weapons."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> We've got a ton of loot here. I'm about"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "to sort it out right now."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> By now, they only cleared the first two"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "dugouts in a long row of more and more"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "positions that extend in front of them."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "But they have to continue pushing"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "forward because the longer they wait"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "here, the faster the Russians can"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "organize a possible counterattack on"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "them. The three remaining in the fire"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "team call out, telling the Russians to"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "surrender. But they continue to resist."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": ">> Surrender, damn it. We will exchange you"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "for [ __ ] and that's it. Damn it. Either"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "you surrender or you're screwed. You"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "have nowhere to go, idiots. You're"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "hearing an automatic English dub here. I"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "left that in because most of our viewers"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "speak English and it's a little weird to"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "hear it sometimes, but I think that it"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "gives us a good idea of how they're"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "communicating in combat and what's being"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "said. Hiding behind only a tree's cover"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "and facing a Russian PKM machine gun"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "team, they're unable to push forward"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "without help. So, they call for"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "reinforcements. That's when the APC call"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "sign Males and a squad of eight"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "additional soldiers pull up."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> I have 45 here. There are two more"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "people with me. We tried to move"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "forward, but there's a machine gunner"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "and two more shooters. There are three"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "of us. We can't waiting for"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "reinforcements."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> Now, we can see that the APZ is"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "positioned to their left and they can"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "provide better fire support as they push"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "up. The reason they didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "vehicle there alongside them from the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "beginning is because if they did, it"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "would have exposed this valuable asset"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "to enemy RPG fire, and it quickly could"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "have destroyed their ride. You can see"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "the M113 has moved up to their left"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "slightly ahead about 25 m in front to"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "put pressure from the side while they"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "pound the position with RPGs. The M113"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "armored vehicle lays down automatic"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "machine gun fire while the drone"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "overhead provides surveillance. The team"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "continues their push, now able to gain"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "fire superiority and move up with the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "increased firepower. They take another"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "casualty. One of the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "infantrymen is shot as he approaches the"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "dugout. They'll need to act quickly from"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "here and get their casualties back to"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "the 113 for evacuation. The Russian"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "soldiers are observed by overhead"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "surveillance beginning to flee their"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "positions. What they're doing is"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "regrouping further back at another"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "dugout. They are trying to consolidate"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "in the middle of this shelter system."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "The Russian goal is to fall back to this"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "more advantageous position with greater"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "and greater numbers while attritting the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "Ukrainians along the way. The final"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "dugout has 15 Russian soldiers in it,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "which means technically the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "soldiers do not have enough manpower to"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "assault it. By the book, you're supposed"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "to have a threeon-one advantage when"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "you're assaulting because it's much more"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "difficult. Technically, they should have"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "45 soldiers, but they only have about"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "seven. It appears that they're out of"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "luck. Commander Far consolidates all of"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "his troops for the final push. Even"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "though they don't have the manpower they"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "need, they will have to adapt,"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "improvise, and overcome in some other"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "way. Far grabs the captured Russian PKM,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "starts laying down fire for the advance."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "One of the Ukrainian infantrymen"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "recommends shouting at the Russians to"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "give up. After the unit has lost two"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "soldiers at this point, the commander"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "replies that he doesn't need the enemy"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "alive."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> I don't need them alive."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "The APC has moved into the woods now to"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "better cover them. The third assault"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "brigade at this point takes a break"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "inside one of the Russian dugouts. They"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "use it as cover while they plan their"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "final advance."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": ">> Yes, everything is fine. We are working."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Do you have ammunition? There is enough"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "ammunition there for two wars. They're"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "short about 30 soldiers to confidently"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "assault this position. But this is where"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "the buzzword force multiplier comes into"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "action. You can make your infantry of"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "seven be more like 45 by adding a shock"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "factor, a tank. A Ukrainian maiden"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "battle tank makes contact with them and"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "arrives as reinforcement to help with"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "the final dugout. But I didn't expect"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "the tactic that they would use. The"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Ukrainian infantry coordinate where the"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "enemy is with the tank commander and"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "they ask him to drive straight over the"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "dugout. The tank drives right over the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "shelter multiple times. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "I've seen that type of violence of"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "action. Something so aggressive as this."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "The Ukrainian infantry are able to move"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "in and destroy the bunker after that."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Check out this video about new reports"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "on how US black ops are operating deep"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "behind Russian lines right now, blowing"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "up railroads and attacking oil"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "refineries, or this playlist of other"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "combat rundowns that I've done. If you"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "want to see more uncensored combat"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "rundowns, I do a weekly episode on"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "pepperbox.tv. The link is in the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "description of the video if you're"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "interested."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Right now, US special forces are"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "conducting a black ops sabotage campaign"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "deep behind Russia's lines. A new report"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "from the Telegraph just revealed that"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "since June 2025, CIA operatives are now"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "following a much more aggressive"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "strategy than the public previously knew"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "about, coordinating operations deep"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "inside Russia. Russian agents have been"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "waging a hybrid war against Europe for"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "the past few years, and now it appears"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the West is striking back. Today, I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "going to show you what targets are"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "already being hit and what happens when"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "one of these operations goes wrong."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "We're just now learning that when the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Russian military launched their"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "in response, the CIA partnered with"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "their NATO allies to activate sleeper"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "cells that were already inside Russia."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "These agents began collecting"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "intelligence on the war effort from"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "behind the lines. According to authors"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Jack Murphy and Tim Weiner's reporting,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "the double agents had stashed explosives"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "and weapons inside Russia more than a"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "decade earlier after the collapse of the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Soviet Union. Since the 1990s, early"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "2000s, the CIA's Moscow station had"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "built up an elaborate staybehind network"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "of spies that we previously didn't know"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "about. From Tim Weiner's book, Great"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Book, The Mission, the CIA's elite team"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "of paramilitary officers, Brown Branch,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "trained these operatives at bases inside"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Germany and Poland before sending them"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "into Russia. They were given the job of"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "evading Russia's FSB Internal Security"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Service. These agents live seemingly"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "normal lives among the Russian populace"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "thanks to elaborate cover stories and"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "forged documents. We've long known about"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Russian sleeper agents inside the United"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "States and inside Europe. The KGB has"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "famously flipped some officers at the"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "top level of the US intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "community and those have been given"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "prison sentences for it. Oftent times"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the only reason we know about these"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Russian spies are because of the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "high-profile prisoner swaps. But what"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "fascinates me about this is how we're"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "learning about Western sleeper agents"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "inside Russia for the first time. Within"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "weeks of the invasion, mysterious"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "explosions started happening inside"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Russia. There were fires and industrial"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "quote unquote accidents. Accidents"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "according to local media. But these"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "suspicious sabotage actions always"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "played the Russian side and made their"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "supply shortages even worse. Curiously,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "key rail bridges, fuel depots, and power"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "plants all suspiciously got blown up"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "early in the war. Since then, it's only"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "doubled down. I've scoured Russian"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "sources, Russian language media from"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "their state media to their mill blogger"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "accounts on Telegram for recent reports."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "These here, here, and here, and here."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "These are different sabotage incidents"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "that I found from 2025 to today. Russia"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "has an entire roving patrol across the"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "country that now searches for sabotage"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "teams. And we know what can happen when"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "these high-risk missions go ary."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "According to sources who spoke to Jack"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Murphy of the Highside, one time two"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "separate sleeper cells compromised each"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "other while casing the same target. They"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "accidentally gave away each other's"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "position and a fierce firefight broke"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "out with Russian authorities. It"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "resulted in the death of one agent and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the capture of another. And there were a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "few occasions where roads and railways"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "were cut and that blocked a separate"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "team trying to get to their target. The"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "CIA was forced to create a deconliction"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "process to keep track of all these"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "different teams and their targets inside"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Russia to avoid further incidents like"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "this. But the best intelligence comes"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "from quote, \"The elite level teams that"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "we have the best relationships with are"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "almost always given air surveillance"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "support for major sabotage ops. Drones"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "we don't even know about yet are"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "loitering all over the Ukrainian and"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Russian airspace.\" End quote. What's"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "interesting is how Western media does"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "the same thing and reports that"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "highlight links to Russia's GRU and SVR"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "in attacks across Europe. The reason"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "we're seeing this now is because since"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "at least 2014, there have been"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "increasing incidents of Russian GRU"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "agents conducting a covert campaign"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "against the US and Europe. Moscow spies"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "have blown up rail lines in Poland,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "burned down warehouses with a to"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Ukraine, poisoned dissident in the open,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "tried to assassinate heads of defense"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "companies, and attempted to blow up"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "packages on a flight. That's just a few"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "of the missions that Russia's covertly"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "been responsible for. What we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "here from the outside looking in, I"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "think, is a ramping up of this hybrid"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "war, but what's still unclear to me is"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "where it's all headed. But before we get"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "into that, I use this episode sponsor,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Ground News, to research this breaking"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "story because it's the best tool to stay"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "objective with my reporting. I use their"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "website to find and analyze reports of"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Russian covert action across Europe."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Currently, Russia's strategy is an"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "attempt to drain Europe's investigative"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "resources with its sabotage campaign."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "News has become my favorite app on my"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "phone because I'll scroll through"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "reports and get wind of stories like"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "this one before major outlets get wind"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "of it. These attacks were directly"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "linked to Yevghenei Ivanov and the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Vagner Group. Similar to tactics used by"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Western intelligence agencies, they"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "outsource sabotage to local criminal"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "groups already in the country. Ground"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "News now allows me to view how factual"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "each of these stories are. One of my"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "favorite tools is how I have the ability"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "to follow where the money comes from and"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "see who funds each source and where"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "their bias is. This way, we're able to"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "see how both intelligence agencies are"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "ramping up attacks on one another."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Ground News is offering you guys 40% off"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "the same Vantage plan that I use. Just"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "click my link in the description or go"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "to ground.news/cappy or scan the QR code"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "up there to bring your price down to"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "just five bucks a month. Similar to the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "tactics we've seen of Russian sabotage"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "attacks throughout Europe, the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "clandestine operation in Russia was"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "allegedly run in partnership with NATO's"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "allies who actually had their operatives"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "in country in Russia to provide a"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "crucial layer of plausible deniability"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "for the US. In response to the wave of"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "suspicious explosions and accidents"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "behind Russian lines, CIA director of"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "public affairs Tammy Thorp said, quote,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "\"The allegations that CIA is somehow"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "supporting sabotur networks in Russia is"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "categorically false.\" End quote."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "However, title 50 of US code states the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "CIA can legally lie to the American"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "public or whoever else to preserve"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "operational integrity so long as they"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "keep congressional leaders properly"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "briefed. It's all above board by US"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "standards. After Russia annexed Crimea"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "in 2014 and then allegedly interfered in"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "the 2016 US election, that's when the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "NSA started working with the relatively"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "new US Cyber Command on a failsafe"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "solution. They began planting cyber"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "weapons in Russia's critical"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "infrastructure. These can then be"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "activated at a later date to shut down"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "critical services from power to water,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "similar to the type of cyber weapons we"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "saw used against Iran and Venezuela most"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "recently. You might think the Russian"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "government would be highlighting these"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "missions. But counterintuitively,"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Moscow's actually actively tried to hide"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "any evidence that Western agents are"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "running a muck in their backlines."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Without many arrests to show progress,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "such a revelation would only weaken"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "morale. When 20 people were killed when"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "a Russian Aerospace Defense Forces"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Institute building burned to the ground"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "in April 2022, the TAS state-run media"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "company blamed the fire on old faulty"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "wiring. If they suspected foul play,"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "they didn't mention any of it to the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "public. The intelligence that these"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "undercover officers collected can be"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "more important than the bombs. John"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Ratcliffe, the new CIA director, gave"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "his philosophies gray operations, saying"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "he believed that warrantless collection"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "was an indispensable national security"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "tool and said that broader collection"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "under the Foreign Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Surveillance Act accounted for more than"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "half of the actionable intelligence. The"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "US intelligence community correctly"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "predicted that the Russian invasion"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "would happen almost to the day, and they"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "provided detailed war plans to Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "and the rest of Europe leading up to the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "invasion. While most around the world"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "were skeptical and unwilling to accept"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "that a major war was about to kick off,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "it's also why reports indicate that the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "stay behind network was able to activate"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "even days prior to the invasion because"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "they knew what was about to happen."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Exactly how the United States got such"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "detailed intelligence from right under"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the noses of Russia's security apparatus"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "is of course a closely guarded secret,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "but it reveals the level to which"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they've penetrated the Russian"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "government. Former CIA paramilitary"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "officer Mick Mroy said, \"I do not know"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "who is behind these attacks, but their"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "value is substantial and serves multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "purposes.\" Russia has had a significant"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "problem keeping up with its logistical"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "supply lines. These attacks further"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "complicate its efforts to supply its"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "forces.\" End quote. Since then, covert"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "action by America and Russia against one"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "another has only escalated. Since then,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "NATO generals have openly started"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "talking about preemptive strikes against"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Russia in retaliation. And it appears"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "the first step is the US intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "community was authorized to hit back."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "And the first indication of this came in"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "2024 when Ukraine's long range drone"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "strikes against Russian oil refineries"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "were starting to run into a significant"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "problem. A majority of the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "munitions were being intercepted, shot"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "down, or zapped by Russian electronic"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "warfare before they even got to their"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "targets. And when Kiev did manage to hit"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the oil refineries, they weren't sure"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the extent of the damage they did, which"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "makes follow-up attacks more difficult"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "to plan. Worse yet, they weren't sure"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "where to even aim to deal the most"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "damage. This meant prior to this summer,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Russia was able to easily repair the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "refineries after each wave of attack"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "within just a matter of days. Then,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "starting in summer 2025, CIA officers"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "were surprisingly authorized to help tip"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "the scales. The way they did it was they"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "spent months pouring over and analyzing"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "schematics of Russian refineries. They"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "looked at every blueprint looking for"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "something specific, trying to find a"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "vulnerable, difficult to replace part."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "And that's when an expert analyst with a"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "touch of the oil refinery, TISM, found a"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "precision machine coupler that is"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "incredibly difficult to replace because"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "sanctions on that part make it extremely"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "hard for the Russian companies to come"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "by. The piece of hardware so sensitive"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "that it's described as an oil refinery's"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "quote unquote Achilles heel. The Death"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Star vent shaft, if you will. Open-"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "source public-f facing reports that you"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "or I can access won't describe it in any"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "more detail than that. Yes, most Jack"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Ryan spy work is just reading through"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "hundreds of pages of oil refinery parts"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "and compliance sheets before you get to"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "actually blow anything up. According to"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "officials who spoke to the Telegraph,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "CIA officers partnered with and helped"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "guide Ukrainian drone operators on how"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "to fly their strike package in a way"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "that would avoid Russian air defense"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "systems. Then American intelligence"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "provided keysp specific live battle"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "damage reports. But the pressure wasn't"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "enough. So, beginning in October 2025,"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "the US military began providing Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "with new intelligence, but this time for"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "missile strikes to hit those refineries"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "deep inside Russia. Almost immediately"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "after this, we started seeing reports of"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "precision UK provided Storm Shadow"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "missiles and other longrange munitions"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "hitting Russian oil refineries in"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "vulnerable locations. Repairs were"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "quickly becoming more difficult to"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "sustain. This is the unsexy side of"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "modern warfare. spreadsheets generated"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "from satellites that are more lethal"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "than sending artillery sometimes. But"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "every tit has its tat because at the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "same time we started observing the first"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "evidence that the Chinese Communist"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Party is providing the same type of"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "satellite targeting data but to Russian"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "units to help them hit Ukrainian troops"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "and buildings. This is when American"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "intelligence went into overdrive."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "Ukrainian longrange missile strikes"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "against those Russian oil refineries"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "became a lot more surgical and"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "destructive. virtually overnight. By"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "late October, analysts estimated that"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the Ukrainians had destroyed over 38% of"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Russia's oil refining capacity. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "why you started hearing in the news a"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "bunch of reports about how there was"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "suddenly a domestic fuel crisis inside"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Russia. It's still going on today where"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "you see Russians queuing up in long"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "lines for gas. These combined actions of"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "better weapons and better American"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "intelligence put Russian oil refineries"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "out of action for months instead of just"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "days. But no single operation is a"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "silver bullet that will end the war."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "This is a high pressure campaign that"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "the US, Europe, Ukraine, Russia, and"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "China appear to be playing against each"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "other. What we know from US officials is"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "that the US intelligence community has"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "had intelligence drones over Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "helping provide targeting data on"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Russian infantry position for years. But"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "those attacks near the front line"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "weren't having the kind of operational"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "impact that was needed. And according to"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "new, widely available reports from"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Bloomberg and Reuters, this is just the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "tip of the iceberg. It gets much deeper"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "than that because starting in late"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "November 2025, the White House started"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "authorizing the CIA to share targeting"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "information on Russia's sanctioned"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "shadow fleet of oil tankers for the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "first time ever. This is the strategic"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "logistics network that keeps Russia's"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "war funding afloat. The head of the"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "American Intelligence Agency, John"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Ratcliffe, said, quote, \"We will collect"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "intelligence, especially human"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "intelligence, in every corner of the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "globe, no matter how dark or difficult.\""}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "End quote. Ukraine was given precise"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "locations and tracking intelligence on"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the fleet. A level of detail that only"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "American Space Command is able to"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "provide. What happened next is Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Seaby attack munitions were launched"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "from small ships at sea. The quasi"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "autonomous torpedoes then hunted Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "oil tankers outside the Black Sea for"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "the first time ever. In fact, five"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Shadowfleet tankers have already been"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "hit since 2025. And the US on top of"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "that captured another five tankers with"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Europe capturing three more. The crazy"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "thing is one Shadowfleet tanker was even"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "as far off as the West African coast. A"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "level of power projection that we have"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "never seen before. Why does all of this"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "matter? For all the money that crosses"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "over the seas every year, shipping"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "companies are skittish beasts. The"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "sudden threat has already resulted in"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "causing one major shipping company in"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Turkey to cut their losses and stop"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "working with Moscow altogether. This has"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "an impact on the Kremlin's war funding"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "as a major oil and natural gas exporter."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "The reduction in refining capacity means"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "dramatically reduced funding for the"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Russian government and military as much"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "as $ 24 billion a year in loss profits"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "according to US intelligence reports."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "But so far these efforts have failed to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "cause the major crack, the operational"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "destruction that they're looking for."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "What does that mean comes next? There is"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "now a notable change in tone. Sharing"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "all this new information with Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "represents a major shift in US strategy"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "that we're seeing because before mid"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "2025, the US government actually"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "discouraged Ukraine from damaging"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Russia's oil infrastructure so it"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "wouldn't disrupt the world's oil markets"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "too much. Insiders told the Telegraph"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that the US government was growing"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "frustrated at Putin's repeated bait and"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "switch tactics during ceasefire"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "negotiations throughout the past year."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "They got the vibe that Putin was"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "uninterested in ending the war. And"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "according to their thinking, if enough"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "damage is able to be inflicted on"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Russia's oil industry, it would force"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "the Russian side to come to the table in"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "good faith. Whether that was the actual"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "reasoning or not, coordinated Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "missile strikes is just the tip of the"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "iceberg. The major shift has a name"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "attached to it. John Ratcliffe."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Ratcliffe is a new head of the CIA,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "arguably the most ruthless and top"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "intelligence agency in the world."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Surprisingly, he's not your traditional"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "CIA director because he's a former"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "federal prosecutor instead of a career"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "case officer. He came into the job with"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "a very clear belief about how"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "intelligence works and who it's for. And"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "in his words, intelligence is about more"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "than just warning policymakers after the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "fact. He's gone on record saying it"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "should be used to shape the battlefield"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "before the first shot is fired. This"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "shift in philosophy explains the new"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "approach that we're seeing. In public"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "remarks during congressional testimony,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "he's gone on record saying, quote,"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "\"Russia is the single greatest threat to"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "US national security short of nuclear"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "war.\" Ratcliffe has argued that publicly"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "that risk avoidance became a liability"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "after 2016. And this puts us into the"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "the headsp space and the philosophy of"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "the new CIA operations because under"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Rackcliffe, the intelligence community's"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "posture changed to be more assertive"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "around the world. During testimony to"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "the Senate on his confirmation hearing,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "he laid out a vision of being more"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "aggressive with covert actions as"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "opposed to previous administrations"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "focus on delivering analysis. He said"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "they will be quote going places no one"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "else can go and doing things no one else"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "can do. End quote. This shows the US"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "government has been taking a much more"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "active hard power role in trying to stop"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Russia. Taken together, these operations"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "show that the United States has moved"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "from deterrence to active disruption,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "quietly striking the systems that keep"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Russia's war machine alive. But once"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "great powers start sabotaging each"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "other's economies, history shows it"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "rarely stays covert for long. If you"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "like this episode, check out this one"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "here about why the new militarized iron"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "curtain dividing the West and Russia is"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "so dangerous. I'm your average infman,"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "Chris Cappy. Ending transmission."}]

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It was flanked"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "by several FA18 Super Hornets just a few"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "miles from Caracus. But why were they"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "doing this? Wasn't it just wasting fuel?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "They were creating what's called a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "pre-strike electronic map. Their radar"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "systems probe the exact location of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Maduro's command and control nodes. And"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "what did that look like? Take a look at"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "this map here. It shows leaked images of"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "the location of Venezuela's air defense"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "bubbles. This intelligence was leaked"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "straight from the Venezuelan Integrated"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Aerospace Defense Command. PowerPoint"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "slides are way more cool when they're"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "top secret. We see here it's a layered"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "system with overlapping air defense"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "nodes. This is supposed to create"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "redundancy in the system and limit"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "single points of failure. The leaked"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "documents revealed that one thing"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Maduro's forces lacked was radar"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "detection in lower altitude range, which"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "is a gap that American forces would plan"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "to exploit. From this sweep, US aircraft"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "knew that they were flying directly into"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the Russian Chinese and Iranian provided"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "defense systems. And on paper, Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "was in command of significant"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "surfaceto-air defense capabilities. But"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the US military planners knew that they"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "didn't have to physically destroy"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "everything. They only needed to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "neutralize their adversaries ability to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "coordinate. In the face of this, on"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "January 3rd at 2 a.m., the US Air Force"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "and Navy launched F-35, F-18 Growlers,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "and F-22 Raptors from bases in Puerto"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Rico, the Dominican Republic, and"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "carrier decks in the Caribbean. The air"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "tasking order provided each of the 150"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "pilots with their routes, targets, and"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "strike package details. The first thing"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "the Growlers did was use its suite of"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "sensors and jamming systems to detect"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "these hostile radar emissions and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "suppress them with targeted electronic"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "attacks. Then it launched its AGM88"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "missile that hunts enemy air defense"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "system emissions. Here we see video"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "evidence of security forces firing"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "missiles at the American aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "giving away their position for"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "destruction. Then they launched their"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "fire and forget AGM 154, which is a"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "standoff munition that lets them shoot"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "from the safe distance of over 100 km"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "away. The precision attacks destroyed"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "two of the Russian provided book command"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "centers. And when you knock out one of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "those control nodes, it immediately"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "reduces the effectiveness of any of the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "launchers attached to it. Pieces of the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "missiles were later recovered from the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "ground and posted online. These were"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "physically targeted and destroyed"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "because their mid-range capabilities"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "posed the greatest threat to"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "helicopters. Afteraction reports showed"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "that many of these launchers were"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "destroyed while still in storage. They"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "never even made it out of their"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "warehouse. From here, the F-35 sensors"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "created what's called a God's eye view"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "of the battle map. This is a shared"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "picture with the entire strike team. And"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "it's important because at this point"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "they're up against Russia's S300, the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "most expensive and sophisticated missile"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "defense system they had. How effective"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "is it? According to Rand analysis on the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Russian S400, their performance in"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Ukraine reveals that Western missiles"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "are intercepted about 90% of engagements"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "due to recent upgrades. Ukraine's own"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "S300 systems have proved effective at"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "intercepting enemy aircraft. So why did"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "they fail so catastrophically here? for"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "a few reasons. In Venezuela, the Russian"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "provided S300 launchers were never even"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "activated or linked to the Chinese or"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Russian radar network because the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "American Growler aircraft are outfitted"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "with the ANALQ99"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "attack pods under their wing. This"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "blasts high power noise at enemy radars."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "It's like a brute force static on a"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "radio that drowns out everything else"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "and overpowers radar with static. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "like yelling into a megaphone so no one"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "else can hear what anyone's saying. This"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "jamming bricked the S300 and then its"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "operators refused to even turn them on"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "for fear of making themselves a target"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "for deletion. Counterintuitively, US"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "forces were then ordered to not"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "physically destroy those S300 systems,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "likely for the strategic logic of"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "leaving room for future escalation. If"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "you blow something up, you can't"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "threaten to blow it up again later as a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "threat. On top of that, the unique"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "geography of the region further"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "undermines these specific systems."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Russian air defense systems are"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "notoriously optimized for flat, wide"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "open terrain that's found specifically"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "in Europe. But Venezuela has a"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "mountainous coast with peaks and valleys"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "that are a nightmare for these systems."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "So by plotting the right vectors,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "low-flying American aircraft were able"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "to exploit radar blind spots. Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "and Cuban agents were deployed and"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "helped to maintain these air defense"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "systems. Russia's own state-run media,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "TAS, reported that Ivan Pavlov, a"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Russian working in Karacus, said that"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "the warning systems did not work. Ivan"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "said, quote, \"The sirens weren't"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "howling. The air defense systems seem to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "be working in places, but that's not for"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "sure. There's still silence on the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "television.\" End quote. Part of the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "reason that these systems never engaged"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "American forces is because of the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "political consequence of firing in a"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "top-down central authority dictatorship."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "When power is consolidated in the hands"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "of just a few in a military, your"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "average soldiers tend to wait around"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "longer, waiting to get orders on what to"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "do next instead of taking the initiative"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "for themselves for fear of future"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "retaliation. And there were 200s of the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Soviet style 40mm anti-aircraft flack"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "cannons, 44 of the Petura 2M systems,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "and 5,000 Igla man portable shoulder"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "fired missiles. So why did they all"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "fail? The absence of seeing any of that"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "anti-aircraft flack is very telling, I"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "think, because even when Iran's nuclear"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "facility was hit, we saw them fire flack"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "into the air to prove resistance even"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "though they couldn't reach any of the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "aircraft. So, this suggests that there"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "wasn't a will to fight. And the CIA has"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "for decades created reports specifically"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "assessing the Venezuelan's militaries"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "will fight. This is something that is"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "intangible. You can't quantify it. can't"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "count how many motivated troops there"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "are, but many of the forces appear not"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "to have been willing to fight for"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Maduro. This has some speculating that"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "parts of the Venezuelan military"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "received orders to stand down ahead of"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "time, while other parts did not. Part of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the reason resistance gives up in the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "first place is because of overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "firepower. And this came from appearing"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "like you're everywhere at once. And to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that point, US forces launched their"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "first ever in history widescale combat"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "use of kamicazi one-way drones. The war"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "zone reported an analysis of multiple"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "combat footage clips from the ground in"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Venezuela where you could hear this"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "distinct whining whizzing sound that"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "these guided munitions make. Sounds"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "different from incoming mortars or"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "missiles. It sounds more like a"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "lawnmower of death overhead. These"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "kamicazi drones themselves are based on"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Iranian technology that itself is based"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "on US drone technology. They only cost"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "about $40,000 a pop, much cheaper than"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "the milliondoll missiles. The reason"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "these drone munitions were launched is"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "similar to holding a fake head up on a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "pole to lure a sniper. These drones made"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "it so that they could identify the new"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "locations of the road mobile launchers."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "These drones activate enemy air defense"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "systems and get them to reveal their"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "positions by either firing or turning on"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "their radar missions. These emissions"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "are then logged on by American aircraft."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "This footage uploaded of the destroyed"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Chinese radar here acts as a kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "battle damage self-report for us to see."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "This is the first ever multi-dommain air"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "campaign that was successful with these"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "kind of layered effects from drones to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "cyber attacks that shut off power. No"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "one on the internet outside Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "even knew this operation was happening."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "In a modern world where information of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "events and protests and war travels"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "instantaneously now on X, this is kind"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "of a shocking power for us to think"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "about. Combat footage from the ground"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "now reveals that Maduro security forces"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "did try resisting by firing igl shoulder"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "launched missiles at US aircraft, but"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they were unsuccessful with multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "attempts. But something not often"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "pointed out is that almost none of"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Venezuelan military has any night vision"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "goggles. When the lights were turned out"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "in the city, they couldn't see any"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "targets to fire at. These weapons do not"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "come standard with night vision. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "rarely seen fitted with NVGs or"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "thermals. But even if only a few hundred"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "of these systems were deployed"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "effectively, they would have been a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "threat to helicopters, which shows how"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "surprised Maduro's forces were. Counter"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "measures also help the ANALQ 184 pod"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "attached to some of the aircraft act as"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "a kind of protective bubble and they"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "break missile locks. At this point in"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "the air campaign, B1 bombers then"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "launched their 24 onboard standoff JASM"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "cruise missiles from beyond engagement"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "ranges at over 350 km away. These"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "precision strikes hit air bases and"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "command centers. American fighters use"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "their new next generation jammer called"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the ANLQ249"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "which jams multiple targets at the same"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "time and it can actually change"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "frequencies instantly. But most"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "importantly, it whispers sweet nothings"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "into the enemy radar's ears. So, its"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "deception is fooling S300 systems and"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "other radars into seeing ghost enemies"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "that aren't really there. So, when"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Maduro's troops were looking at the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "radars, they got fake aircraft locations"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "and false speeds. What happened to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Venezuela's Russianprovided interception"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "aircraft though? American F-22 air"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "superiority fighters had the specific"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "job of lurking around and waiting in the"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "air for any enemy aircraft to engage."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "But we know from Venezuelan armed forces"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "officers that had defected ahead of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "time. They had revealed that maintenance"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "on air defense and aircraft was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "extremely poor and the readiness figures"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "were way lower than what was on paper."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Intelligence from US war planners showed"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "a 40% readiness of these systems."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Venezuela's air bases were neutralized"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "by drone and missile strikes. So the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Russian provided Sue30 fighters never"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "even got scrambled or put into the air."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "They were kept grounded. American forces"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "spared the exposed fighter jets and"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "purposefully did not target them to"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "leave room for future strikes if"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Venezuela's new president didn't comply."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Leaving some assets remaining and alive"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "allows for future escalation. But what"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "about the sonic weapon?"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> And there's a report and it was shared"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "by White House press secretary Karen"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Leard that says US forces used a sonic"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "weapon in the Maduro raid."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> There's a white eyewitness who said what"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "happened"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> because meanwhile all of these strikes"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "cleared air pathway for US Army"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "helicopters to fly low in to capture"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Maduro. New reports of an interview with"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "a security guard from the compound that"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "was hit claimed that the helicopters"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "used a new advanced sonic weapon that"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "made all of the guards there collapse in"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "pain. These sonic weapons likely do"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "actually exist and they have been used"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "and deployed against crowds in the past"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "in places like Siberia."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "The Pentagon even recently purchased one"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "for millions of dollars in a covert"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "operation. according to this report, but"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "it's unclear to me if the interview"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "there is authentic and it could have"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "just been effective use of flashbangs by"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Delta Force, which caused similar"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "symptoms to the ones that were mentioned"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "by this alleged Venezuelan guard."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "According to the alleged testimony of"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "the guard, once the sound weapon or less"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "than lethal device was employed against"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "them, Delta Force operators wiped out 32"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Cuban intelligence officers and at least"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "24 Venezuelan guards. All of which was"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "corroborated by the Cuban government"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "themselves. Why would they release"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "information about these casualties right"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "away? It could be a way to signal to"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Russia, Iran, and China that they tried"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "their best to resist but failed."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "According to New York Times, while"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "flying to the objective, the flight"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "leader who planned the mission and was"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "piloting the American Chinook was hit"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "three times in the leg with bullets,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "revealing just how close the mission"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "came to a disaster of a downed"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "helicopter over Caracus. Because"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "apparently the Chinook was barely able"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "to make it back to base. And if a"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "helicopter had crashed with Delta IV"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "soldiers being captured, the mission"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "would have gone very differently. So"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "what does this tell us about how US"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "weapons stack up to Russian ones?"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Geopolitical analyst Shaneka Perez said,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "quote, \"The speed with which these"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "systems were neutralized signals a"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "catastrophic failure of Russian export"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "air defense technology against fifth"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "generation Western air power. Every S300"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "and S400 customer, including China,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "India, and Egypt, now confronts"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "empirical evidence that Russian systems"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "cannot defeat American fifth generation"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "capabilities in operational conditions."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "He describes it as a strategic crisis"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "for Moscow. Pete Hgsith, the defense/war"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "secretary, made fun of Moscow's air"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "defense, rubbing further salt in the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "wound."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> Seems those Russian air defenses didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "quite work so well, did they? Military"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "superiority today is about more than"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "destroying systems. It's about now"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "multiple effects being layered together"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "within a specific window of time. That"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "is the new combined arms warfare"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "doctrine. And if you like this video,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "you want to learn more. I think you'll"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "enjoy this one about how the US Navy is"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "trying to rebuild their fleet with a"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "$1.6 trillion investment aimed to defeat"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "China. I'm your average infman, Chris"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Cappy. Thank you for watching ending"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "This week's guest is none other than the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "American Alchemist himself, Jesse"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Michaels. Now, I wanted to come on here"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "just to set up the way this podcast kind"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "of played out. See, at the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "the podcast, Jesse and I, we talk about"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "President Trump's statements in response"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "to former President Barack Obama saying"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "that aliens are real. And it kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "gets us talking about the current state"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "of disclosure. Will Donald Trump be the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "president to disclose that aliens are"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "real? What's going to come from this?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "And then somewhere around the 1 hour"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "mark, our friends interrupt the podcast"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "so graciously by informing us that"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "President Trump has tweeted this call to"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "action and the fact that he's going to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "be investigating and looking into UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "aliens, extraterrestrials, UAP, etc. It"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "was kind of a historic moment and we"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "caught it on video. So, I thought I'd"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "just come on here to uh sort of quell"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "any confusion that you might have uh"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "because we begin the podcast talking"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "about the very thing that ends up"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "happening a little bit later on."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Now, Jesse also opens up about his"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "relationship with Harold Malgm and"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "really interesting story that he's never"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "told before. So, thank you for joining"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "me today and I hope you enjoy the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "podcast."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> Hey, what's up? Um, so in 2009 I worked"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "for Supported Living Systems in Tucson,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Arizona. Um, I also, um, so I was asleep"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "at a computer. I woke up in the middle"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "of the night, the whole place vibrating."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "I was like a night watchman. And I"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "looked on the cameras and all the, um,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "people that I took care of, I watched to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "make sure that like they didn't escape,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "but they always did. We're outside"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "looking at the sky. I went outside and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "the entire sky was blacked out and it"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "was like a black box the size of like 20"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "football fields and the cops came and I"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "made a report and I gave it to supported"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "living systems the next morning. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "all logged down in it. I have no way of"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "ever recording this. So, this is the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "first time I've"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Jesse Michaels, welcome back to the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "skiff."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Oh, thank you, Chris."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> How you doing?"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> Always great to see you and to be in the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "skit."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Yeah, good to have you, man. I'm so"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "excited. You know, you're in town. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "we just had Gerb on the podcast, too,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> we're all hanging out. And then we're"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "here to do the Montreal Show for It's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Probably Nothing, which is super"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "exciting."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> Can't wait. It's going to be awesome. We"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "have some very special guests."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> Yeah, we can announce it because that'll"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "probably already, I'm sure, be around,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "but George St. Pierre."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> Uh, UAP Gerb. And then possibly some"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "dropins. I'm thinking maybe Amar,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> maybe James Fox."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> Maybe James Fox."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Yeah. and maybe some tall ass alien"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "looking dudes walking around in top"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "hats, but who knows? That's that's"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "speculation."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> It is."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> We're not going to go there. We're not"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "going to speculate today. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "talk about facts only."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> That's right. No, no, zero speculation."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah. All facts."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "All right. You know, there's there's a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "few things that I wanted to talk to you"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "about today, but one is what's what's"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "your initial gut check reaction to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "everyone saying Trump's going to"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> disclose UFOs? I I love whatever is"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "going on right now. I feel like we're in"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "this like mimemetic warfare between"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Democrats and Republicans and presidents"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "and ex-presidents and it's all around"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "upping the ante visav this alien issue."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "And so Obama let out a thing, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "last week on this podcast or whatever."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> Aliens real?"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> Uh, they're real, but I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "them. And and and uh they're not being"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "kept in uh what is it?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> Area 51."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Area 51. There's no underground uh"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "facility unless there's this enormous"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "conspiracy and they they hid it from the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "president of the United States."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> What was the first question you wanted"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "answered when you became president?"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Um, where are the aliens?"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Where are the aliens?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> And it was this"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> aliens. Yeah, they're real. But Area 51,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "sorry, that was my"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "so bad."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> It wasn't a horrible"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> I'm editing this. So, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> that's great, Chris."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> Oh, thank you. It's I I really got the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "like, you know, he takes himself pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "seriously and"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> um he's got"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Obama. All right, that's enough."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> There you go. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Yeah. Um but uh so he obviously that"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "felt very kind of choreographed like it"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "was like he gave himself an out you know"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "afterwards he could say oh I was talking"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "about the Fermy paradox like aliens are"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "of course are real in this very abstract"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "sense."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Uh but then he also cited like cited"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Area 51 but kind of like forgot about"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Area 51."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Forgot the name of Area 51."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> Forgot the name of Area 51. an oddly"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "specific, you know, denial of like"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "aliens underground at Area 51 and and a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "denial of the fact that there are"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "underground bases at Area 51, which, you"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "know, we're here with UAP Gerb. You"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "know, who's a great, you know, document"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "of these deep underground military"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "bases. You know, you have the Solder"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "book about deep like that's a thing."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "It's definitely a thing there at Area"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "51. Luigi's here as well. Yeah. who's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "doing the Bob movie. You know, I think"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "he has a lot of amazing evidence around"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "underground passages and the whole place"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "being this mining, you know, like there"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "being mining shafts there. So, that that"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "was interesting."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> Categorically false. And then and then"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "you have his his"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "uh um DNI and his CIA director both"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "partaking in a movie where they're"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "implicitly or tacitly Age of Disclosure"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "endorsing not only UFOs being real but"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "you know decadesl long you know crash"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "retrieval programs and then hints of"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "reverse engineering."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Yeah. And specifically Clapper"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "mentioning Area 51."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah. Tracking Area 50"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "UFOs at Area 51. So you have them doing"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "that and to me it almost felt like a"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "we're going to get there first. Obama"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "was going to get there first but also"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "pro prompt Trump like almost provoke"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Trump and to you know"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> you think it was a it was a knowing"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "wittingly sort of like tactic to"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "to get Trump to react."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Could be because"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> he wouldn't have he wouldn't have walked"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "it back though the next day would he"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "have? Well, I Well, I don't know because"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "I think he know if you're if you're"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "media savvy, which he is,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> right? He only walked back in the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "comments."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Well, you know that the comment isn't"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "going to be as circulated as the initial"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "thing. That's true, too."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> The initial thing got super circulated."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Then the little comment retraction thing"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "only a few people saw."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> Everybody talked about"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> and then Obama is also producing a doc a"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "documentary on Betty and Barney Hill,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "the first, you know, very well-known"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "abductees in the US in 1961"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> and has shown, I think, some"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "long-standing interest. He's also"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "discussed the threebody problem at"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "times. If you look at his media"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "appearances leading up to that podcast,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "he's dropping hints left and right on Co"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Bear. He talks about you."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> Oh, they have full full control over us."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "But, uh, is that better? No, it's still"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> You're horrible."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "James Cordon,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> and I'm I'm actually being serious here,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "is is that there are"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "uh there's footage and records of"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "objects in the skies that we don't know"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "exactly what they are. We can't explain"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "uh how they moved, their trajectory. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "they they did not have"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "um an easily explainable pattern. And"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "so, you know, I I think that we're uh"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "people still take seriously trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "investigate and figure out what that is."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> He says, you know, there are things in"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "our skies we don't know how to classify."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "He's dropping hints. That was, I think,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "if you see that out of context, oh, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "a mistake. If you see it in context of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "his last, you know, 10 years of"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "comments,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> the aliens won't let it happen."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> You reveal all their secrets."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "They they exercise strict control over"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> Now, you know, there are a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "that are going to examine your your"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "facial expressions here."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> He was building up to that. And then,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "you know, that there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "continuity between the Clinton's kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "intelligence apparatus and Obama's and"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "all those people are all over the UFO"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "issue. In fact, Podesta was literally uh"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "you know, Obama's uh chief of staff and"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "uh or maybe it was yeah, it was Obama's"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "I think chief of staff and and then also"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "obviously uh you know in the Clinton"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "White House and I think it was Hillary's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "campaign manager. So there's definitely"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "connectivity there."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> Loves pizza."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> Apparently loves pizza and hot dogs, but"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "has also been"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> grape soda."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Jesus Christ. but has also been all over"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the UFO issue since the '9s and is in"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Wikileaks emails and, you know, emails"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "with Tom Delong where"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Yeah, there's clearly a history."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> For him to play dumb is an insane move."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> It's an insane move, but it's a it's"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "also like that's where we're at with the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "whole political discourse is like it's"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "all it's all it's the worldwide, you"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "know, wrestling or whatever."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> Yeah. It's a whole show."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> It's a whole show. Yeah. And the person"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "interviewing him, forgive me, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "know about him, but he's got like a"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "pretty big following. Um, I guess he's"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "like a political commentator is my best"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "guess. I I don't know. I don't I didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "look any I didn't look into him at all."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "I was so annoyingly frustrated with no"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "followup there."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> It was absurd."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> Like, I mean, I'm trying to understand"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "if I'm outside of the UFO space, do I"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "even care for a follow-up? And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "no, of course I do."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> Of course anyone would care. I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "to think if it's only my UFO brain being"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "like, oh, you know, why didn't he ask?"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> well, if you say they're real, you're"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "also not really saying they're real"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "based on some probabilistic Drake"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "equation for me paradox thing. You're"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "saying they're real and he's in this"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "sort of machine of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> pre-approved questions probably like"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> preapproved questions for sure like"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "where it's like it's so obvious Obama"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "knows what's coming and then"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> he's in that sort of factory. You look"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "at his other videos and it's all stuff"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "to kind of drum up the base on the left"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "wing. And I'm not saying that's, you"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "know, monopolized by the left wing."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "That's a thing on the right wing, too."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "It's this machine. And I don't I think"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "you are running a program when you're in"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "that media complex. I don't think you're"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "thinking on the fly. And I don't think"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "you're thinking about, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "ontologically, you know, deep questions"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "actually interviewing."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> No. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> It's a it's a it's a it's all a staged"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": ">> Yeah. It's like a media trained sort of"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> It's a performance. And you even see"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "like people like Tucker Carlson who come"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "from that world who are now I think"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "becoming a little bit more like"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "impromptu and independent."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> You still see him ask questions in a way"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "where it's like so you're saying you"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "know and like you know it's like it's"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "it's all good. You're not in legacy"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "media anymore. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> what are UAP? you know, like these type"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "of questions are still like I I still"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "get frustrated when I see this on legacy"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "media like how long are we going to beat"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "this horse until we stop like until we"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "move on to the next sort of uh you know"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "layer of the onion. Well, that that's"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "what I find frustrating about the whole"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "political conversation and even people"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "who are into UFO quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "disclosure who are tracking the"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "political conversation in this like"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "hypervigilant way. I understand it for"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "people like David Grush and other"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "whistleblowers who are like, I went out"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "on a limb and my government is"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "gaslighting me."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> And then simultaneously, you have all"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "these people who are like fans of the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "UFO culture and they're track me too,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "but you're tracking the the statements"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "of these, you know, politicians like"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "you're hanging on their every word, you"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "know, and it's like that's dis I think"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "we just got disclosure and it's like"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "what do you mean? Like what is it? The"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "guy just literally like uttered a"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "cryptic sentence that is clearly like"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "meant to be retractable and like be a"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "dog whistle and you're saying that"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "that's disclosure. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> It goes to these other kind of question"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "deeper questions of like even if you"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "were to unveil a craft with like you"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "know heavy elements with weird isotope"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "ratios and like electrogravidic"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "propulsion and all these other kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "crazy exotic features that would beget a"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "thousand more questions let alone the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "cryptic highle statement. Right."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. No, fair. And I think"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "that, you know, him doing it so sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "flippantly was also very calculated."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> Uh as a sort of maybe even a litmus test"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "or some type of hey, let's see what"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "happens. Is it really that bad? Does it"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "really go viral? Does it like just as a"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "media training?"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> It's a litmus test as was uh Larara"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Trump, who is, you know, Trump's"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "daughter-in-law. M she know teasing it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "saying like"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> her doing it was for the clicks I think."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> Oh I don't think so at all. I think she"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "was clearly you I don't think you say"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "that unless you're coordinating with"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "your family around it."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": ">> I think there might be some truth to it"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "but her saying it."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Next question."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "What do you or the president know about"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "UFOs? Can you share? I hear that the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "president has something in the queue to"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "share with us about all of this. Now,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "truth be told, I'm trying to remember"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "how long ago it was. It may have been"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "right after he left office after the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "first term. I remember Eric being like,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "\"All right, what like what can you tell"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "us?\" And he was a little uh little"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "hesitant to give us any real info, which"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "makes me think like he's got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "info out there and he's waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "right time to drop it. And maybe this is"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "going to be the time because I keep"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "seeing all these stories about how he's"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "got some like UFO speech that he's got"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "queued up and"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> was for the clicks is what I mean."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": ">> Oh, I think it's both though. I think"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "it's totally both. I mean, and I think"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "this whatever happened today with Trump,"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "you know, then I think shows that it's,"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "you know, for both. I think they're"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "they're thinking about this sort of"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> What did he say?"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> Something that got a lot of attention"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "this week. Barack Obama said that aliens"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "are real. Have you seen any evidence of"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "nonhuman visitors to Earth?"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": ">> Well, he gave classified information."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "He's not supposed to be doing that, you"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> So, aliens are real."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> Well, I don't know if they're real or"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "not. I can tell you he gave classified"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "information. He's not supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "doing that. He made He made a big"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "mistake. He took it out of classified"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "information. No, I don't I don't have an"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "opinion on it. I never talk about it. A"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "lot of people do. A lot of people"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "believe it."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Do"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": ">> you believe it, Peter?"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": ">> Well, if the president can declassify"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "anything that he wants to, so get him"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "out of trouble. I may get him out of"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "trouble by declassifying."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> We know illegal aliens."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Illegal. Only illegals."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> He said, \"Well, it was very"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": ">> He's revealing classified information.\""}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> Yes. He That's what he said. He said,"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "\"Yeah, he goes"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": ">> revealing classified.\" Okay."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> Which is amazing. And by the way, like"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "you know, as much as I just critiqued"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "like people who hang on the politicians"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "everywhere, I'm I'm loving what's"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "happening"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> that he just admitted."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": ">> Well, the ante is being upped on both"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "sides. And he did and he totally if you"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "read that statement, it's um"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> you're saying that aliens are"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "classified. Why would aliens ever be"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "classified if they were fake and they"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "weren't real?"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": ">> And so, and then maybe you could get"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "away with saying, well, he revealed the,"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "you know, Area 51 underground base"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "thing, but he actually said no to that."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "He denied it. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": ">> shout out to the reporter because the"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "reporter probably knew full well that"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Obama had retracted that statement and"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "sort of walked it back. For him not to"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "follow up and be like, \"Hey, Obama said"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "it was real.\" He was rage baiting him."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": ">> 100% in real time. And so, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "you see like Trump's handlers in the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "back and his spokesperson just kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "lay like"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": ">> Yeah. You see Carolyn Levit's face. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "this is going to be She's smiling and"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "her f her smile is slowly fading cuz she"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "knows the mountain of,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": ">> you know, just incoherent"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "uh people that are going to follow up"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "with her is going to be"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": ">> she's literally the White House press"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "secretary and has to like field all the"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "questions. Every single one's going to"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "be about this. It's going to be"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "hilarious."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> Yeah. But you know what's also hilarious"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "that they make it a big joke always and"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "that like it there's something you know"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "what there is? There's something about"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "that stage"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": ">> that lends itself to a bit of a comedy"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "scene."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "Yeah, you have this you have the stage,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "you have this small little gallery of"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "people. They're all in their own right"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "witty. There's this banter among them."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "There's like this camaraderie because"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "they see each other in the same"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "room every day talking to asking the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "same questions getting no answers and"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "they're all a bit uh cynical and they"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "all have like this sense of humor. So"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "that whole room lends itself to like,"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "yeah, any of the wisest cracks will get"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "a chuckle from the crowd. And so that"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "must be very tempting to save face, to"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "fall back on as a crutch in a social"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "environment. If you're on stage and"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "things get a little tense, you know, uh,"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "fall back to a joke. Obama was a master"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "at that. say what you want about his"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "presidency, but he was really good at"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "controlling the room and adding levity"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "through, you know, slight humor. But"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "that stage in that room where all these"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "press briefings happen to me is like"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "you'll never"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "hear the word aliens without hearing a"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "chuckle in that room just because of the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "way that room is and the energy in that"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": ">> It's like it's like going to the Tonight"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Show."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> And saying, \"Do you believe in aliens?"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Laugh track, please."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> Perfectly reasonable question. Laugh"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "track. You know, everyone's laughing."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "And so, I don't know if we'll ever get a"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "serious conversation about aliens in"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "that room."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> I I I want to do a podcast with Trump."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": ">> I would love to talk to him about that"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "and talk to him about his uncle who was"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "at the MIT Rad Lab. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": ">> Who was doing"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> and talk to him about his his uh time"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "traveling uh 7 foot tall son."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:05", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> Baron."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": ">> The adventures of of Baron Trump. Baron"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "Trump where Dawn is like his, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "guide in the time travel adventures or"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": ">> Yeah. I I wonder if he's read that book."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "That'd be interesting to find out."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": ">> It would be."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> He'd be an interesting guest."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": ">> Uh the son the Baron would be cool. I"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "bet you Baron's into UFOs."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> Probably."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": ">> Or like tangentially like I feel like,"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": ">> or Call of Duty."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> Or Call of Duty. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Apparently he hooks Trump up with like"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "all the podcast circuit stuff."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": ">> Oh, that's why he did Neelk and"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> and Logan Paul,"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "probably. Yeah. Oh, interesting."}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": ">> Also, Trump loves the UFC."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": ">> Trump loves the UFC,"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> which is a weird thing."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> Yeah, he loves Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": ">> have a fight on the lawn house. On the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "the lawn."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> Cool. We're not getting UFOs on the"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "White House lawn, but we're getting"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "bunch of dudes fighting each other. So,"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "hey, next best thing. Well, we might be"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "headed towards World War II right now,"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "which is, you know, and it's like"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "everything with like fuel in it is being"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "sent to the Middle East as we speak. And"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "so,"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": ">> Way to bring down the pod."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": ">> I'm sorry, man. Yeah, you were on a"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "light mood. I was just saying though,"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "like, you know, on a more serious note,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "where these things seem No, where these"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "things seem to like show up and"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "intervene is like moments of high"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "entropy and crisis. And actually remote"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "viewers seem to be able to remote view"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "areas of high entropy better as well."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "And so look at where we're you just had"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Ross Coltard on and he talked about you"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "know now being a more unstable time than"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "during the Cuban missile crisis. I don't"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "know if I agree with that per se, but we"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "are in a extremely heightened I mean I"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "agree with his general sentiment which"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "is like we're in a multipolar nuclear"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "world that is crumbling as we speak. And"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "so I wonder if it's almost like funny"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "and and makes so much sense that this"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "UFO disclosure is happening as a a side"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "comment, you know, by these various"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "presidents in the form of podcasts and"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "press conferences as the world uh as AI"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "accelerates from the world seems to the"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "end of time. It feels climate Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "geopolitical, you know, tension. the"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Epstein files, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": ">> which like the the I think the"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "lowresolution like dumb take on it is"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "like it's it's all just a smokeokc"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "screen, you know, distraction against"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "the Epstein files. Show me more files,"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "which is great or the other way around."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> Let's see more files."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": ">> But what about the like deeper thought"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "of like what if there's a convergence"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "between like some of these metaphysical"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "bizarre truths that are at times"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "extremely dark that come around"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "speculation of NHI, okay? and you know"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "and the spooky science there in by the"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "way and then all the stuff coming out of"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "the Epstein revelations which"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": ">> you know some of these emails are just"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "so weird."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Yeah. I I you know what if"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "there's just one person like this this"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "small cabal just conjuring all this up"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "from like some some Vatican basement or"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "something. Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": ">> Maybe."}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": ">> You know"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "I wouldn't uh I wouldn't put it past"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> Um yeah that's interesting. Do you think"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "Trump will be our disclosure president?"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": ">> I think that he has more of a chance to"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "be. There's there's a higher likelihood"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "there than a lot of past presidents. I"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "think um Biden was never really in"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "charge. There was like an apparatus in"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "in behind him that was in charge. So"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": ">> stop news."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "I'm not going to believe that."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": ">> Yeah. No, he's actually still fit to"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "run. In fact, No, no, yeah. No, they uh"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "after that one debate."}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": ">> Did you ever see the video of Joe Biden"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "walking and then the Boston Dynamics"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "robot walking trying to get over?"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": ">> I have. They're like new conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "He's a skin suit. Yeah, it's hilarious."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "Um, but like so there was like he was"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "you know if you're just calling like the"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "deep state like this apparatus of like"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "you know low agency bureaucrats like he"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "he was a figurehead that sat at top"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": ">> Trump is uh acts alone and he will do"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "things like despite his cabinet being"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "against him and he will he will go to"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "Venezuela and he'll say we're going to"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "take Greenland. And so if there was ever"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "a guy uh who was kind of uh higher"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "volatility but like extremely"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "independent-minded and and not kind of"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "caught in these, you know, the local"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "incentive games or whatever, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "really can can rise above that in a way"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "that can be scary but also, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "exciting. It's him. So I think there's a"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "chance."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": ">> There is a chance. I'm thinking now how"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "I'd change up my strategy if I was"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Obama."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "Instead of being like, \"Aliens are"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "real.\" I would be like, \"Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "will never tell you about aliens.\""}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Like, you won't."}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": ">> Exactly. Cuz then he'll go,"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": ">> \"We got aliens.\" A lot of aliens. A lot"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "of aliens."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": ">> He'll be like, he'll be not those"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "aliens. Those are bad. I is taking care"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "of those aliens. But you know, and"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "Obama,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": ">> you want to come here on your spaceship,"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "you got to do it the legal way."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. No. Obama's move should it"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "should be like you know my presidency we"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "made more progress on this"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": ">> on the UFO issue. Yeah 100%. You you got"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "to poke a little harder. 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I I also think"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Trump um he's really good at reading the"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "room and understanding what is good for"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "him kind of, you know, optically and"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "also, you know, what will galvanize the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "country or create momentum, right?"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": ">> And so I think I think there's a chance."}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:22", "text": ">> There is a chance. There's definitely a"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "chance. And and uh my conviction level"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "grows higher. Uh it was uh it was pretty"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "low at one point because I was like"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "there's no way they're letting this guy,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "you know, and I'm like this guy's not a"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "puppet. He is a they're all puppets, but"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "he's not the puppet that they're looking"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "for. I don't think he's a little too,"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "you know, too much of a loose cannon"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> uh to to fit in that role. But then for"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "me, you know, I look back at this"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "Spielberg thing and I can't shake it."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "And I know it's it's my pet theory and"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "it's a little absurd, but also"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> I don't think it's absurd."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "Spielberg has a history of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "being really close to some uh UFO"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "truths."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:06", "text": ">> Let's say, and for all of that to be"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "culminating at the same time, uh for the"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "people in Congress who, you know, once"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "the second they establish this new sort"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "of UAPF,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "they're tweeting out the new title of"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "Spielberg's movie with like cryptic"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "tweets of like, \"Oh, just wait. you're"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "not ready for this. And like ready for"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "what? The Spielberg movie. Like"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "what are you talking about?"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:33", "text": ">> And then immediately the this huge flap,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "this flap that goes worldwide"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "happens in Jersey with all these drones"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "and you know, who knows what was going"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "on there, but immediately after they"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "start filming in Jersey."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": ">> And I can't help but think somehow"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "that's related to like moving something"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "and that something's going to be in the"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "movie. Yeah. and that that'll be Trump's"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "pedestal that they're propping him up"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "for. And they're like, \"Here, here's a"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "here's an alleyoop. We got this and"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "you're going to come out and Spielberg's"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "going to be here and people are going to"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "have shoving their faces full of popcorn"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "and it's going to be the American we're"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "going to have we're going to have uh"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "stealth bombers fly overhead and maybe"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "unveil the TR3B at the same time and be"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "like, \"We got them. Aliens are here.\""}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "You know, I don't know. That's that's my"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "America. But I'm Canadian, so you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": ">> I, you know, that might be right. I"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "don't think uh the Spielberg camp would"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "be coordinating with Trump, though would"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "be my guess. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:25", "text": ">> no. Unknowingly."}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": ">> Yeah. Trump would probably be briefed in"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "the last like few days"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": ">> and then would probably, you know, go"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "out on Truth Social and like spill the"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "beans prior,"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": ">> More of his style. But yeah, the team"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "working behind it all, you know, it's in"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "the grand scheme of things, if that"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "happened, I wouldn't be mad if it if"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "that's how we got disclosure, quote"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "unquote, was"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": ">> this film features a real UFO. I would"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "I'd be like, hats off."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> You're forgiven. You know, you're"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "forgiven. Yeah. The trillions of"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "dollars, forget about it. You guys just"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "did the best, coolest thing ever."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "freaking out the entire mainland United"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "States that we were being invaded by,"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "you know, foreign adversary and there"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "were drones every It's okay."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": ">> Yeah, but we got John Krosinski acting"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "in a UFO or whatever. Is he in the"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "movie?"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": ">> I don't know. Oh, he might. I think"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "Well, Emily Blunt is they're"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:19", "text": ">> Oh, they're a thing. So, he might be"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "doing it a little,"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": ">> but maybe they're both in it."}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": ">> How cool would that be to to find out"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "you you were like in a UFO and you"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "didn't know it?"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> That would be insane. Like that was this"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "was like this crashed UFO and they have"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "to act in it and stuff."}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": ">> Guys, this was recovered in a deep sea"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "mission. Like what?"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": ">> They're pulling real bodies out of it."}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "You're like, \"Wow, this is so cool.\""}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Wild. And also, I mean, there's"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "this other um Jerry Jerry Buckenheimr."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Jerry Brookheimr."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": ">> Brookheimr. Yeah. His movie's coming out"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "soon, which was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": ">> people there were whispers that what"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "Grush was a part of uh the consulting."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:58", "text": ">> So, that'll be interesting. I'm sure a"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "lot of UFO people are also going to be"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "looking at that with a keen eye."}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, you've got to especially"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "for that. I mean, with Spielberg, we're"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "reading the tea leaves on that movie."}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "You have to think that very highfidelity"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "stuff I ideally is going to come out"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "because just knowing Dave, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "think he's has an extreme attention to"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "detail. I do think he wants to get as"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "much of this stuff out as he can. So,"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": ">> yeah, that's a good point. It's also"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "interesting to think because Spielberg"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "had some pretty heavy-hitting"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "consultants for Close Encounters."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": ">> Well, he had Jock Valle, he had Jaylen"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "Heinik,"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> who was pretty much the go-to guy."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> Who was the go-to guy? Jay,"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": ">> who do you think he used for this movie?"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": ">> And sorry, Jo. Yeah, Jo was consultant."}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "Then France played Jo."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": ">> So, for this, I don't know. But he said,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "it's funny. He'll answer things like Co"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "Bear asked him about aliens and he said,"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "\"What if they're not from a distant"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "planet? What if they're us from the"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "future coming back to monitor our own"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "civilization? Wouldn't that make more"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "sense?"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:57", "text": ">> Oh, he's been he's been watching the"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "podcasts."}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": ">> Yeah, either that or like the dude has"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "some really good sources. ET like"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "locking on with the be the boy locking"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "on with the being sounds a lot like what"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "Jake Barber experienced that sort of"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "like synchronization"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "of like you know entities or what like"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "you know Jordan Jose talks about or all"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "these Skywatcher psionic assets talk"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "about lock on you know and there's sort"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "of this like harmonization consciousness"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "mindmeld phenomena or close encounters"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "of the third kind"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": ">> you know um there is a time travel"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "element where the soldiers walk outside,"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "you know, or the the the two crates with"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "I think TRW and Skunk Works, which is"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "wild."}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:40", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": ">> So, yeah, he's he's got to know some"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "stuff. Back to the Future, too."}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:44", "text": ">> Back to the Future producer. He's"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "definitely he definitely knows some"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "stuff. I mean, there there has to be"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "because you you watch I watched Do you"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "ever see that interview with James"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "Cameron and was it uh George Romero or"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "GMO Del Toro? I think it was GMO. I"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "think I have where Toro talks about his"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "UFO experience and how much it freaked"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "him out,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": ">> dude. And it's it's clear as day. You're"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "like, \"Oh, he experienced something.\""}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "And you could see Cameron's interest in"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "it, too, was kind of interesting cuz"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Cameron is famously known for making The"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Abyss, which you know, in the inner"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "circles of the IC, apparently that is"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "one of the movies that is closest to the"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "truth other than, you know, perhaps"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Close Encounters. Yep. Um, which is"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "interesting because it happens also in"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "like the Bermuda area, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "that the craft are actually the beings,"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "the beings are the craft type deal. And"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": ">> very interesting concept, but yeah,"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "Hollywood's got their finger on that"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "pulse"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": ">> and probably"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "I mean I I I'd have to imagine in some"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "way directed to give us some type of"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "softening."}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:49", "text": ">> Yeah, for sure. on on a very small scale"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "even"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": ">> that that can be happen also in this"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "distributed loose way by just planting"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "these guys. There's a guy named Chase"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "Brandon who wrote an amazing book I I"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "love called Crypto's Conundrum. Chase,"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "it's a pseudonym."}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:02", "text": ">> Yeah, I bought it cuz you suggested I"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "haven't read it yet though."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": ">> It's really interesting and he it's I"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "think he quotes Francis Bacon at the"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "beginning of the book and he says you"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "know um some truths are so strange you"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "have to hide them in fiction. And then"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "he goes on to tell this story of this"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "MJ12 like majestic 12 like committee"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "essentially forming where beings"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "non-human beings show up to each of them"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "knowing details of their lives that"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "they've never told anybody and"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "coordinating them and then there's this"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "sacred object that's given to them that"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "involves it involves literally like"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "reading timelines"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:38", "text": ">> and I brought that up in the context of"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "my interview with Harold Malgrren"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "because the main character in that book"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "is a guy named Chalmer's who's this"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "mathematical ical whiz and that"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "committee comes out of the um OSA which"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "is an OSS offshoot which is pre-CIA from"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "1942 to 1945 in World War II and"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "Chalmer's to me reminds me a lot of"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Malgrren because so Malgrim is this you"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "know JFK LBJ Nixon and Ford adviser who"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "was just this prodigy who was you know"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "one of McNamera's whiz kids uh so to"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "speak he was one of the you know um kind"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "of earliest uh strategists uh who was"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "kind of plucked and like youngest too."}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": ">> He was 27 years old when he was like a"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": ">> when he diffused the uh"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": ">> Curtis Lame bombs away Lame during the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "Cuban missile during the missile crisis."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": ">> Pretty wild"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:26", "text": ">> and helped talk him down. So yeah, that"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "book is really interesting. But that's"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "all to get back to Chase Brandon who is"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "this Hollywood liaison who was clearly"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "kind of seeding stuff in H and I think"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "he had a project with Stanton Freriedman"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "in Hollywood and a lot of that stuff."}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "even Jamie Shandura was doing stuff and"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "I think there there's been a long"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "history of of I think that connectivity."}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": ">> If you're one of these agencies, you're"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "obviously, you know, one of your jobs is"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "not only to report on things that are"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "being put out there, but it's to control"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "the things that are being put out there."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "That's kind of what they're doing."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "They're not just doing um info"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "collection, it's counter intelligence."}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "They're, you know, they have whole"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "departments. And so do you ever feel"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "like during your career as a interviewer"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "and a content creator, podcaster or"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "whatever you want to call it, um, have"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "you ever felt a subtle presence in maybe"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "the guests or maybe the guests that are"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "being suggested to you? Has that ever"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "obviously it's crossed your mind. I know"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "it's crossed mine and anyone who's in"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "this space, it's crossed their minds,"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "too. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> But have you ever felt a gentle nudge"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "and sometimes you go, \"Oh, that might"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "have been them.\" Like, have you ever"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "felt that?"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": ">> I think I've felt it a bunch. And it's"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "it's often not gentle. It's like more"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "overt and then you have to have kind of"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "like an allergic reaction to that where"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "you're like,"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:53", "text": ">> like what's an example without without"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "giving detail? Like somebody would tell"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "you something really crazy and then like"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "as like sort of passage material stuff."}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Like I was telling you I had um"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "you know I did this interview and the"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "spooky guy showed up to my studio with a"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "bunch of these other people and starts"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "telling me he goes you want to know that"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "you know where they capture you know"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "experiencers it's a it's a program"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "called Star Trap and they go to muon"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "organizations and that's where they it's"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "the honey trap for you know and he's"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "telling me these things like like just"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> you know right out of the gates and I'm"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "like dude like I don't I don't know you"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "like what"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> yeah take me out to dinner Yeah. Before"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "you me. Yeah. It's like what is"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "this? Yeah. It's so weird."}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": ">> Uh so certain things like that you're"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "like what's going on? And and I think"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "you can do it back is the funny thing"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "where you can say oh I wonder if I can"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "bump up against the contours of what"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "this person actually represents as far"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "as truth seeeking and like trigger a"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "thing, you know, where you send a thing"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "about some anti, you know, say they're"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "like trying to steer you away from the"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "science. you send something about like,"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "you know, the towns of Brown"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "anti-gravity stuff and if they're like"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "extremely dogmatically opposed or try to"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "like steer you clear, you're like a"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "little I'm going to clock that. We're"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "getting register that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "So, you got to do it back to them."}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:12", "text": ">> That's a good point."}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": ">> And it's only for your own, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "edification to like be able to navigate"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "this spooky hall of mirrors"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "world that we're in."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, I suppose the same could"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "be said for like the biggest debunkers."}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "You could just look at what they"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "debunked the the most furiously"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> and be like, \"Oh, yeah. That's probably"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "real.\""}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:30", "text": ">> Totally."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> Or something there is very sensitive."}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:32", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": ">> You know, and so Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> Or or the debunk is uh it's a mis it's"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "too easy of a debunk."}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:41", "text": ">> So it's like a layup. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh but then that, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "always points me back to Bob"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:45", "text": ">> Lazar"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": ">> because"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "the most respected quote unquote people"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "who have a voice and who have something"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "to say about this topic"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "deny"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:03", "text": ">> Bob and yet he's said some of the most"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "like credible stuff like in terms of"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "like his,"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> you know, he's predicted things."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> I'm not talking about element 115 like"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "everybody thinks. is not that, but he's,"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "you know, the smaller details. Time and"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "time again, you go, \"Oh, Bob was right."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "Bob was right. Bob was right.\""}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:23", "text": ">> And for for people to just flat out deny"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "him. I mean, for me, that's one of those"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "topic that's one of those litmus tests"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "that you go, \"How do you feel about"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "Bob?\" And if they go, you know, I don't"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "got a read on him. He sounds truthful."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "Then I'm like, \"Okay.\" But if they go,"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "\"No, he's a bullshitter. He's a con"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "artist.\" I go, \"Oh, that's a red flag"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "for me.\""}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> It's a total red flag. Well, it's also a"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "red flag if you"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": ">> because if they if they bring up the"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "kind of um you know basic you know"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "objections, I think that's actually"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "reasonable, but then if you come back at"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "them with good rebuttals and then"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "they're not even processing that, you're"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "like, \"Okay, what's the undetectable"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "dark matter that is sort of motivating"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "them?\" But I think after Luigi's amazing"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "movie S4, uh, it's going to be to me,"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "it's going to be very, very hard to"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "argue that he was not an employee at"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "Area 51 at S4."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:17", "text": ">> You can then debate, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "science of the craft and what the craft"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "was and was he seeing what that I think"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "is more reasonable."}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": ">> The the other stuff like just just"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "saying that he wasn't there. I think is"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "is actually insane. Like you all after"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "this movie I think"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:32", "text": ">> Well, I think saying that he's lying is"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "insane. That's my take."}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> Oh, I agree too. I agree. He's not Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:38", "text": ">> I I flat I don't think he's lying. In"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "fact, I would I would say he's not"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "lying."}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": ">> Yeah. But but you you were also saying"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "that from the vantage point of you've"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "met him."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:45", "text": ">> Sure. Yep."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:46", "text": ">> And I do think that gives you kind of"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "an, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:53", "text": ">> but to to call him a liar for lying's"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "sake is is an insane claim. Um to"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "question the tech is fine. He questions"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "it too. Like there's there's no debunk"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "there either when you're like, \"Oh, you"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "know, you're explaining it wrong.\" He's"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "like, \"I don't know. doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "What do you want me how do you want me"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "to explain?\" He he's not even convinced"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "it's gravity. Like he's he's like"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "clearly open-minded to whatever whatever"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "it is and very curious about it."}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": ">> Yeah. And I I I have had the uh you know"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "surreal experience of meeting him"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "recently at our show in Austin and"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "brought up a couple of those things"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "where you know it's kind of what I"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "described where it's like I want to poke"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "at the edges and he definitely satisfied"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "me as far also the soft signals of being"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "nonchalant not having anything to prove."}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "I felt Dan Sherman who went on my"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "podcast was very similar. Yes. where he"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "was just like like I would bring up"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "stuff that other people corroborated"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "around his story like this guy Noah"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "Rodek who did this foyer request around"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "project preserve destiny which was only"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "a program associated with his book above"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "black"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": ">> which he sent to the air force and they"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "forwarded it to the NSA implying that"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "it's a real program under the purview of"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "the NSA who cited national security"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "afterwards and you know said we can"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "neither confirm nor deny or whatever"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": ">> and I brought this up to to to Sherman"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "he was like oh yeah Cool. Like he didn't"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "he didn't go, you know, if I think if"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "you were lying, you'd be like, \"See,"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": ">> you send it.\" Uh that's that's another"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "great tell, too, is that when someone's"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "uh telling the truth, they they won't"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "extrapolate. They won't extend anything."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "Uh they'll give you very short answers."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "And Bob, he's a man of few words."}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:26", "text": ">> You talk to him and you're like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "what about have you ever thought of"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "that?\" He goes, \"I don't know. I never"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "thought of that.\""}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:31", "text": ">> That's like the extent of what you're"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "going to get out of them. like you have"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "to like you got to pull information out"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "of him, right? But he's he's not one to"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "go on a riff and just be like, well, you"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "know, it might it might also be that"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "like he's not speculating. He doesn't"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "care to. He hates it. He doesn't like"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "being put in a position that he has to"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "speculate. He it makes him"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "uncomfortable. So like all of these soft"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "tales, like you said, are"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:55", "text": ">> re really help you convince convince you"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "that you're like, \"Oh, he's he's telling"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "the truth. whatever that truth is. I"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "don't I don't know that to be the truth"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "of the universe, but I know that what he"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "was shown,"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> that's what he's telling me."}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> I wonder if you were to pull, you know,"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "how long it's almost been 40 years since"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "he came out. I wonder if you were to"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "pull all of the private interactions"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "that he's like all the people who've had"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "private interactions with him since then"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "and you were like cuz I'm sure they all"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "bring it up, right? That's what he's"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "known for. He's like this walking"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "advertisement for this reverse"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "engineering program. So you if you were"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "to poll them and be like, \"What do you"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "think about his like authenticity?\" I'm"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "sure it would be like 99%. Yeah. Like he"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "was just a dude, you know? It was"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "amazing, you know."}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:36", "text": ">> Yeah. My buddy who reads body language."}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:43", "text": ">> Um there's two things he will not do on"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "camera is uh the moonlanding um press"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "conference."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:46", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": ">> And Bob Lazar."}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": ">> I So many questions there. I guess why"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "both? So the moon landing."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:55", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": ">> cuz he it's so blatantly obvious that"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "something's up."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:00", "text": ">> It's so obvious."}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": ">> So he won't do it because it's a sacred"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "cow of like American history or"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:04", "text": ">> No, he's he's Canadian. Um"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:06", "text": ">> so then what?"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:06", "text": ">> He doesn't want to have to deal with the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "fallout."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:11", "text": ">> Of his a because he's he's a like big"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "skeptic of everything. He's a mentalist"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "friend of mine. He's he's skeptical on"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "most things, like 99% of things. And"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "he's finally coming around to UFOs"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "because he uh you know he read Grush's"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "body language."}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": ">> I think I saw this video."}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:26", "text": ">> Exactly. He's done he's done a few of"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "them and he's really good at it."}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:28", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:29", "text": ">> um but he won't do Bob."}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:31", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": ">> And he told me uh he did actually do Bob"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "on Patreon. We have a little half"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "episode. I was like you're going to do"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "it on the Patreon and I had him do it."}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:41", "text": ">> So we have this head tilt with a with an"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "eyebrow flash and the the one side is"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "just the one side of the mouth that does"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "this like a quick this."}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:47", "text": ">> Mhm. Look, man. This is what I'm telling"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "you. Like, this is all What does that"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "mean?"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": ">> Okay. So, so the the contempt looks like"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "that. Contempt looks one side of your"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "mouth goes like this. So, contempt is uh"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "when you're looking down on something or"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "judging something. So, but that's not it"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "doesn't look like it doesn't make sense."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": ">> Uh, okay. There's something there."}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": ">> It's called an exclusion qualifier."}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "Everybody I've run into was very"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "positive."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:10", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:11", "text": ">> there might have been some negative."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:13", "text": ">> There might have been some negative he's"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "aware of. But exclusion qualifiers is"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "like when you ask me a question and I"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "focus in on part of the answer. So by"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "saying something like basically or uh"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "essentially or uh or literally like he"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "just did to say everybody I've run into"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "was very positive. So that's listen"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "that's as close as I could come to being"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "like there's something that's being"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "concealed. Okay. So if the people you"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "ran into were positive who isn't? But"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "the whole time he was like, \"Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "with Bob it's interesting because he"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "says his his facial expression doesn't"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "match what he's saying and it's"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "inconsistent.\""}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "And that usually is the tell of someone"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "who has like uh maybe some type of like"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "autism or like not full-fledged but like"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:43:59", "text": ">> just a little more sort of I guess"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "leftrained or"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": ">> Um and and just analytical and sort of"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "analyzing things in a different way. So"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "he's not really uh using any emotion"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "when he speaks and so and so you can't"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "really read him and that coupled with"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "the fact that he doesn't think he's"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "lying and you know and he just goes like"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "yeah but he also he did read Travis"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "Walton"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": ">> and he's like whatever this guy's saying"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "put him in a Hollywood movie if he's"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "lying."}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:28", "text": ">> Whoa. Yeah. Wild."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> He's like definitely definitely"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "traumatic experience for this guy."}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": ">> But yeah, won't do Bob because he's like"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "Yeah. you know, and he's he's a big"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "skeptic, but he just won't do them."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:42", "text": ">> But he also basically believes the"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "story, but then he also says that it's"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:44", "text": ">> I don't think I don't think he's"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "comfortable. I don't want to speak for"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "him, but I don't think he's comfortable"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "in believing."}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:49", "text": ">> Okay. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:50", "text": ">> I think it rubs up, you know, that that"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "rubs a skeptic around."}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": ">> Well, he should he should do the the"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "Neil Armstrong press conference. I don't"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "know why he won't do that. That's I"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "mean, at this point, everything's"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "unraveling as far as"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": ">> so obvious. Yes. the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "narrative of everything is like you have"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "pizza gators being vindicated. So just"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:13", "text": ">> yeah but I think the moonlanding stuff"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "is touchy because it's sort of"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "one dimension sort of removed from flat"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "earth"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": ">> is moon landing deniers. And it gets it"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "gets murky there because it's not"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "exactly denying the moon landing. It's"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "denying perhaps uh aspects of the moon"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "landing that were presented to us."}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:34", "text": ">> Do you know what I mean? And and"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "questioning that during a time where"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "heightened tensions with Russia and"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "there was a race and all these things."}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "So there is grounds to question a phone"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "call from a landline to the moon like"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "and and the type of vehicles and like"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:47", "text": ">> there's a lot there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "interesting stuff."}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": ">> Absolutely. But I do think there's an"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "interesting midpoint too that is not we"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "fake the moon landing but you know it's"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "also not that the primmaaccia story is"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "is only real and it involves UFOs"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:05", "text": ">> right and if we now have Beatatric Voral"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "who's a Stockholm University PhD in"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "physics or in astrophysics rather and"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "she has done this amazing study of these"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "plates from the Palomar Observatory"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "which was one of the most prominent"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "inuse observatories in the 40s and50s."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "from 1949 to 1957."}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "Sputnik was not a thing until 1957. No"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "satellites up in space. And she has 10"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "to 15,000 a year roughly of these"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "transients, these light reflecting"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "objects which are mirror like"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:41", "text": ">> metallic"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": ">> metallic and by the way seem to uh uh"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": ">> seem to be flat"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> seem to be flat and um are also camping"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "out uh you know predominantly the the"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "transients where the sun is facing the"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "earth. So"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "shadow"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "object"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "is the plates which is what a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "detractors might say."}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:07", "text": ">> Exactly. Because you'll see that same"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "reflection in the darkness."}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:10", "text": ">> Yeah. You have intelligent plate defects"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "that are playing favor. It makes"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "literally no sense."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:15", "text": ">> If the UAP, UFO, whatever they were,"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "those craft, those transients were to"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "stay in the shadows."}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:20", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:22", "text": ">> We wouldn't be having this conversation."}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "we wouldn't be having this conversation"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:23", "text": ">> which is so wild."}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:25", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:26", "text": ">> Like you know you wonder if maybe they"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "knew that"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:29", "text": ">> but you also wonder then if you are"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "traveling out of space. So these are"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "roughly in in geo I think it's like"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "35,000 km plus in in space but still in"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "Earth's orbit."}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": ">> And if you're traveling into deep space"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "you might encounter some of these"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "objects if they're really showing up"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "that many times. That's a pretty"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "remarkable"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": ">> you know number. Not to mention going"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "back to Harold Malgren, he literally"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "talks about Bluegill Triple Prime which"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "occurred actually I believe it was uh"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "was it October of 1963 I think it was"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "around the Cuban missile crisis and um"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "it was uh Johnston ATOL in the Marshall"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "Islands and the whole goal of the"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "Starfish Prime series of of high"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "altitude nuclear tests was to rip a hole"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "in the Van Allen belt which is the"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "essentially the Earth's magneettosphere"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "which guards us from neutron bombardment"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "and solar radiation. And so what happens"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "when you poke a hole in the magnet in"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "the magneettosphere of the earth? What"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "comes out? UFOs that Harold Malgren held"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "in his hands. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": ">> That he was Lawrence Preston G, who's"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "Jeff Bezos's maternal grandfather. Crazy"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "fact, who is head of the Atomic Energy"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "Commission Albuquerque branch, literally"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "hands to Malgrim and he holds the UFO in"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "his hand. So, if that's what's coming"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "out and you have other by by the way"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "people coming out around uh the Starfish"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "Prime series saying that they've seen"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "stuff. There's this guy David Noble"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "White Crow who saw something. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "Bob Jacobs who has a famous story uh in"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "1964"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "uh when he stationed at Vandenberg Air"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "Force Base was also stationed at the"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "Marshall Islands during those tests and"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "there was all"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:08", "text": ">> I know that."}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": ">> Yes. and and I have him on video saying"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "that there there was rumor that things"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "were were being shot out of the sky and"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "he said that UFOs were being used as a"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "cover for something else at the time."}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "But then you kind of quiz him on those"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "things and he's like I have no idea. I"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "don't know. So it's like so even like"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "the water cooler talk was that UFOs were"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "like appearing around this stuff. Not to"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "mention, there is a foyer request to the"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "NNSA, the National Nuclear Security"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "Administration, saying, \"I want all of"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "the records around UAPs, UAVs, UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "literally every acronym related to UFO"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "around the Starfish Prime series.\" And"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "they say, \"We cannot UFO is exact.\" They"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "say, \"We cannot um uh uh uh get into"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "this. the responsive records have been"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "sent to the relevant subject matter"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "expert, which is not a normal neither"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "confirm nor deny. It's saying there are"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "responsive records,"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:00", "text": ">> but they're going to someone"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "specifically"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:06", "text": ">> with those acronyms on them. So, you get"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "into these trip going back to the moon"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "landing thing."}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": ">> Then you have, you know, possible audio"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "that's a little weird. You have the"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "Gemini missions where some stuff might"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "have occurred, an electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "outage. And so"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": ">> a lot of audio actually there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "audio of like astronauts throughout the"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "years and astronauts coming back from"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "space and being like"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:25", "text": ">> I saw a giant snake or like whatever."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "Totally you know there's there's there's"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "a lot of Gordon Cooper you know take"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "that for what it's whatever that's for"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "but that guy"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:35", "text": ">> drones on and on about UFOs"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": ">> and he was the first guy to spend a lot"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "of time in Earth's orbit. He didn't go"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "to the moon but he spent you know his"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "Mercury missions and Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:46", "text": ">> Yeah. He talks about Mars talks about Y."}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "So the point is you have this really"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "interesting fact pattern and then you"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "have this, you know, debrief press"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "conference of these three guys that look"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "like they are in a hostage video and it"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "looks like if you do the before and"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "after this like these studly American"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "heroes and like these"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:02", "text": ">> then turned out to be alcoholics and"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "like depressed"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": ">> alcoholics who make all sorts of weird"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "cryptic statements constantly."}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:11", "text": ">> I mean Buzz Aldrin is just like he was"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "every one of his interviews is gold."}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "little little girl asks him, \"Did we go"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "to the movie?\" Well, we didn't."}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:17", "text": ">> Just couldn't lie to her."}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": ">> It's either that or him getting"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "triggered and punching Bart Cyrell in"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "the face. It's one or the other. It's"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "like I'm sure can't blame him for that."}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "I'm sure your body language guy if he"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "went through his whole fact pattern."}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "Yeah, Barty. That's funny. It"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:31", "text": ">> might have deserved it."}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:32", "text": ">> If you looked through the entire fact"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "pattern, you'd be like, \"That guy's"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "hiding something.\" And then by the way,"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "um, apparently he was a a pilot in World"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "War II, Buzz Aldrin. And I think he saw"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "a UFO, according to his sister, he saw a"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "UFO, I think, you know, around Japan."}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:48", "text": ">> And um,"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:50", "text": ">> uh, James Fox chased him around the"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "world for a year and almost interviewed"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "him uh, in in Monte Carlo in Monaco. And"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "Buzz Aldrin about UFOs obviously because"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "James Fox and Buzz Aldrin uh, goes,"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "\"What would my testimony do?\" which is"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "to me it's like obviously you know"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "something about UFOs and then all these"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "astronauts sign NDAs. You have Tim"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "Taylor's a NASA mission controller who"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "talks about you know astronauts seeing"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "stuff in space. You have Dr. Ia Whitley"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "who is uh the godaughter of Leonv who is"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "one of the fathers of the Russian"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "rocketry program and she says she's like"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "you know a psychologist for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "these high performing astronauts and"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "they all see stuff. So it's again it's"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "it's like so much smoke there no fire"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "but so much smoke and you know in a few"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "weeks after the you know the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "revelations also so much smoke but you"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "know we've been gas lit for so long it's"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:48", "text": ">> that's true. Yeah, everybody is getting"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "their conspiracy theory uh you know all"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "the conspiracy theories are turning out"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "to be true except for flat earth."}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "Flatar's got it really rough this time"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "around. There's like everyone."}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:52:59", "text": ">> Every single one."}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:01", "text": ">> Like where's our files? Like what about"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "the dome? Really? It's not real."}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> Like sorry. Yeah. All of them. Every"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "single one. Chubacabra. All of them. You"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "know, but not that. Sorry. Yeah. Poor"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": ">> Um."}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "Wow. Yeah. You're really you're really"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "like bullish on the moon stuff."}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:21", "text": ">> I'm bullish on there being more to the"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "story and there being some optical"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "management around it. No, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "bullish on like us definitely not having"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "gone to the moon."}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:32", "text": ">> A trillion dollar budget. What one test"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "would you do to sort of get more"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "information from the moon?"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:40", "text": ">> It's such an interesting question."}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "within our capability,"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": ">> I'd put it into going back to the moon"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "because look at what SpaceX is spending"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "currently. Do do you know like so"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "Starship is their you know it's like 150"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "200 ton payload capacity rocket"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:00", "text": ">> and it's twice the size of the Saturn"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "rockets"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": ">> and what it has to do to go to the moon"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "and there's even a Warner von Brown"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "speech about this from the 50s being"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "like we need two stages to get to the"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "moon and so what what we have to do with"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "Starship"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:14", "text": ">> that was one of Bert's like big sort of"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": ">> claims to like why we never went"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": ">> Bart's debunks have issues too and like"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "so again I don't want to like"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "conclusively say that we haven't gone to"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "the moon, but uh it seems awfully hard"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "for something that we handily did"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": ">> and then there's neutron, you know, once"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "you once you get outside of the Van"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "Allen radiation belt, you're completely"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "bombarded with neutrons. Like it's it's,"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "you know, the the cosmic radiation is"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "extremely high and hard to withstand. So"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "I I guess the the easy the kind of dumb,"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "you know, answer to your question is"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "like I would try to recreate it like"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "with current rocket technology and Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "And then and then again, I think the the"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "midpoint maybe maybe more realistic"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "conspiracy is okay, maybe you do end up"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "going to the moon, but maybe you see"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "some really interesting along the"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:00", "text": ">> Yeah, it's probably that's probably"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "true. Probably. Yeah, you probably don't"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "even have to leave the planet"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": ">> to like start seeing some trippy stuff."}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "I think as soon as you get to like a"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "threshold, you're probably experiencing"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "some stuff. Not only are you seeing, you"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "know, probably like plasma beings and"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "all sorts of other like wild and trippy,"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "you know, entities, you're probably"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "going through this crazy onlogical shift"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "that so many astronauts have had this"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "perspective from Earth being, you know,"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "what is it called? perspective effect."}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": ">> The overview effect which literally"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "causes conversion experiences in many of"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "the people who experience look at all"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "these tribal people fighting when we're"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "all just the same and and and then you"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "have to ask yourself is there something"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:48", "text": ">> interesting about space and its effect"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "on consciousness? If you take some of"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "the parasychology stuff at face value"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "and the idea that we're not just, you"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "know, in this kind of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "floating through cartisian space,"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "there's some sort of like interaction"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "between mind and matter,"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:02", "text": ">> of course. And and and the"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "weightlessness is probably plays a big"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "factor into, you know, some of that too."}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "You you feel this as well when you're"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "doing like sound deprivation tanks. um"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "you're feeling this feeling of"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "weightlessness and and that feeling is"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "actually uh something that anchors you"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "to reality. Being full of weight, like"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "feeling your weight on a bed, feeling"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "your weight while you're walking, these"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "things anchor you here. And so the less"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "senses you have that anchors you here,"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> I think the probably the easier it is to"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "like have these out of body astral"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "projection experiences. John Lily, you"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "know, CIA guy who writes about human po"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "programming and metarogramming,"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "literally invented the isolation tank to"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "essentially mimic weightlessness and"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "ends up speaking to this solid state"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "entity SSI and it says, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "needs more compute or something or"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "silicon to like manifest itself. And"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "then you have to ask is he sort of"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "summoning AI in early version?"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:56", "text": ">> Yeah, he shouldn't have done the oxygen"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "deprivation tank. Uh"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:56:58", "text": ">> yeah, that's right. He was doing"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "ketamine and all sorts of crazy"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "But but but um you have Vereron Braonn"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "literally on record telling Edgar"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "Mitchell uh or I don't want to say on"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "record apocryphal story but apocryphal"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "story that seems somewhat corroborated."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "Not only is he into parasychology, but"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "he's encouraging Edgar Mitchell to do"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "like the kind of JB Ryan parasychology"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "pick the card experiment in space,"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "implying that not only is the overview"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "effect merely a shift in perspective,"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "but that it actually probably, you know,"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "go going into space might affect you"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "somehow mentally on some more"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "fundamental level. also physiologically"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "like there are there are proven changes"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "if I'm not mistaken to the body once you"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "go up into space like"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": ">> these weird things that they can't"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "account for and I I might be you sort of"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "speaking out of my ass here but uh there"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "were things that they measured that that"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "didn't really line up with leaving space"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "and it's as if your body knew y"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": ">> you were in space."}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": ">> Yes. And and you literally need to take"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "a human resonance machine up with you in"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "space or else your body starts to kind"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "of malfunction."}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:07", "text": ">> Yeah. And that that goes to like"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "anchoring yourself."}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:08", "text": ">> It does."}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": ">> But it also goes toward it's probably"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "deeper than that. Like if you think"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "about biological morphology just you"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "know humans and animals like if you put"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "someone in a Faraday chamber and they"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "grow up they're not going to grow"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "normally. Like you put you can literally"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "do an experiment where you put a frog"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "embryo in a Faraday chamber and it's not"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "going to grow normally. put it next to a"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "Wi-Fi router or like near Chernobyl and"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "it's going to be you know it's too much"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "radiation. So there is a sweet spot of"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "ultraviolet radiation that peaks through"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "the magneettosphere and then the human"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "resonance of the earth which allows for"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "this anthropic principle driven"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": ">> perfect petri dish that we're in right"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "now. And so you have to ask is that"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "going on on a level beyond biology?"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "That's obviously going on on the"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "biological level with the human"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "resonance thing. But then is there"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "something actually extremely onlogically"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "shocking literally about going into"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "space also, you know, going back to this"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "sort of these people look like they've"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "experienced trauma. Buzz Aldrin and Neil"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "Armstrong, they're coming back."}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:08", "text": ">> To me, it looks like they saw some"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": ">> They probably saw some"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:12", "text": ">> Like to me, that's the face of like"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:14", "text": ">> you get to the moon and there's like"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "already people there and they're like,"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "\"All right, you you made it. Now turn"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "the around."}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:20", "text": ">> And these people don't look like us and"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "they're like 10 feet tall and they have"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "saucers and they're all wearing suits"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "and you're like, \"Okay.\" And you go back"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "and then that's the face I would have if"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "I saw that."}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> I just interviewed a guy who said he was"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "like, I think there was a story that"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "someone overheard Neil Armstrong talking"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "to someone in DC. And Neil Armstrong"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "said to them, \"We went to the moon. We"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "we met beings up there.\" And they said,"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "you know, after the what was it like six"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "missions or whatever, it was like, you"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "can't come back."}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:53", "text": ">> You can't come back. I heard that, too."}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:55", "text": ">> I want that story to be true so bad."}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:56", "text": ">> I want there to be a recording. Was"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "there a recording? And I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "I'm This is like real or some hoax, but"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "wasn't there a recording about like, oh"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "my god, they're here."}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:06", "text": ">> Yeah. But I don't know how re I don't"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "know."}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": ">> I want that to be real so bad."}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:11", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't When I heard that, too, I"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "was like,"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:13", "text": ">> everybody should know this or it's"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "bogus."}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:16", "text": ">> Or it's bogus. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": ">> But man, that'd be cool."}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": ">> Yeah, it would be cool. Be interesting."}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": ">> Yeah. I like that that big test they did"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "where they like bombed"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:25", "text": ">> the moon and it rang like a bell for a"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "few hours. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": ">> And I was skeptical about that, too. And"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "then I looked into I was like, \"Oh, no,"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "they did.\""}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:30", "text": ">> No, no, that's literally a fact."}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:33", "text": ">> Yeah, it's literally a fact. I was like,"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "\"Wa, the craters are all the same depth"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "apparently."}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:37", "text": ">> They I think they they didn't bomb it. I"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "think they crashed the booster,"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:44", "text": ">> right? Yeah. of the I think it was like"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "uh Apollo 11 was like you know just"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "viewing that it might be sort of you"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "know somewhat hollow right and then"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "Apollo 12 crashing the booster"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": ">> and then and then I put they they put"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "seismometers there and they were like it"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "rang like a bell and then you have I"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "think his name is Gordon McDonald who is"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "Eisenhower's chief space adviser saying"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "the only way in which the moon makes"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "sense is if it's somewhat hollow and"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "cavernous"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:05", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:05", "text": ">> which is trippy and then you there's so"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "much"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": ">> yeah you wonder you know you wonder is"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "the moon brought here."}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Was it geoengineered? Why is it"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "tidal locked and we never see the dark"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "side? You have Neil Armstrong's second"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "expedition is in 1975 to this quote"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "unquote teaos cave where this the lore"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "is there's this library of alien"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "metallic artifacts and there's this cave"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "system at the edge of the of Ecuador in"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "in the Amazon and or sorry at the edge"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "of the Amazon in Ecuador"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": ">> and Neil Armstrong"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:39", "text": ">> and Neil Armstrong brings a BBC film"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "crew to go look into you know this thing"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "and it's so you have enough conviction"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "that there could a there there that you"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "want to look into this. Why would you"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "ever do that if you didn't have some"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "conviction maybe from prior experience?"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:57", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah. And you know, having"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "somebody from the Navy uh do that,"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "you're like, \"Oh, that's interesting.\""}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "Having somebody from, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "Army, you're like, \"Oh, that's"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "interesting.\" Having an astronaut do it,"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "you go, \"Wait a second. What do you"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:09", "text": ">> What do you know?\""}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:10", "text": ">> You know?"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:13", "text": ">> Astronauts do anything. You're like,"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "\"Why are you doing that?\" Yeah. And then"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "he gave that speech of like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "uh what is it? One of if you can remove"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "one of truth's protected layers or"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> Very ominous."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> Very ominous and feels coded."}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:27", "text": ">> You know,"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": ">> a lot of a lot of those speeches feel"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "coded. The uh I mean, what is it? The"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "the Eisenhower famous Eisenhower speech"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "also. Um Nixon or Reagan?"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:38", "text": ">> I think you it would tell me."}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:39", "text": ">> Was it Reagan? The UN speech. Was that"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "Reagan or Nixon?"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:43", "text": ">> Which one? Um, you know, if we're uh"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:44", "text": ">> Oh, Reagan."}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": ">> If we're Yeah. If we're facing an extra"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "extraterrestrial threat."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:49", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> Um, yeah. All those speeches, you put"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "them together and you're like, it's in"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "plain sight."}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:54", "text": ">> What's going on? No. And and then you"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "have um Steven Spielberg going back to"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "him screening ET in the White House and"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "and Stephen Spielberg says in an"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "interview, Reagan faced all these"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "national security adviserss in the room"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "and said, \"All of you know that what is"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "on that screen is absolutely real.\" Or"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "some of you in this room know that."}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": ">> And he just stood up and he looked"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "around the room almost like he was doing"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "a headcount and he said, \"I want to"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "thank you for bringing ET to the White"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "House. We really enjoyed your movie.\""}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "And then he looked around the room and"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "he said, \"And there are a number of"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "people in this room who know that"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "everything on that screen is absolutely"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "true.\" And he said it without smiling."}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:35", "text": ">> Um um but he but but but he he said that"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "and everybody laughed, by the way. the"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "whole room laughed because he presented"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "it like a joke but he wasn't smiling as"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "he said it."}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": ">> It's like come on you give me a break."}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "There's Gorbachev you know who obviously"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "you know oversaw that you know first you"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "know president after you know the uh"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "Soviet Union fell. He I think is on"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "record I think it's an interview with"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "Charlie Rose where he talks about some"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "UN event where he's sitting next to"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "Reagan and Reagan literally leans over"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "and he goes um you know uh uh Mr."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "president, would you join forces with us"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "in the event that there were an alien"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "threat? And he goes, he's like freaked"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "out and he goes, \"Of course, Mr."}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "President.\" And then the the the event"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "just like, you know, starts."}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": ">> Well,"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "so you have like so many of these like"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "apocryphal stories and I don't know. I"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "mean, that's not even apocryphal. That"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "is literally Gor Gorbachev saying that."}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "And then I literally just interviewed a"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "guy who's president of a Russian"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "republic that borders Dagasan."}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:38", "text": ">> Kalikia 30 300,000 people."}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": ">> Shout out Kalikia. Kiran Ilum Xenov"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "who's also president of the World Chess"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "Federation. That's right. And he"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "debriefed with Gorbachev. And Gorbachev"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "brought Kissinger and he said it seemed"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "like Kissinger knew all about this whole"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "topic. And"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": ">> me, you, UAP Gerb, we've all uncovered"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "all sorts of interesting stuff around"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "Kissinger, you know, being involved in"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "this sort of topic. So then you you have"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "this like he doesn't know the research"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "we're doing. He doesn't you know Kiran"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "William Xenov isn't like tracking"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "American podcast media."}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:06", "text": ">> Yeah. He just happened to drop a name"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "that was really relevant."}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:10", "text": ">> That was extremely relevant. Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "kind of interesting."}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:16", "text": ">> Oh man. Yep. How long do you think we're"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "going to have to fight this fight for"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:20", "text": ">> before we get some answers? I I I think"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "do do you think do you think you'll get"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "it before like do you obviously there's"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "this hubhub of 2027 2034 all these"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "different dates."}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:34", "text": ">> Do you have a timeline? Do you think"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "like if I don't get it by X I'm just I'm"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "done with this or do you think it'll h"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "do you think it's imminent? Do you think"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "it's I I don't like to make my interest"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "in this stuff contingent on any"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "revelation from any authority figure."}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "It's sort of like literally antithetical"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "to the search itself."}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:52", "text": ">> But I mean, at what point do you just go"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "just, you know, something's got to give?"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:06:01", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, look, my hope is I will"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "not have like left like a more like, you"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "know, prestigious job in venture capital"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "to like start a YouTube channel on"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "something that will remain fringe"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "forever. I would love to see this"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "accepted in the mainstream. I think that"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "would be absolutely amazing and I would"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "have expressed more pessimism 6 months"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "ago. Today"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:20", "text": ">> really"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": ">> today Trump literally just said"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "something about this topic and literally"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "like it, you know, implicitly"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "said that aliens are classified and"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "Obama let out classified info by talking"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "about them. And so, uh, do I see that"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "like ramping up? Like possibly. I think"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "that's extremely interesting. And then"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "as things get kind of scarier on like a"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "geopolitical level, I do see this being"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "like not only like is the alien"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "intervention like possibly more"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "imminent, but uh you know the"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "military-industrial complex which has"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "kind of held this so tightly. A they"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "probably need to let it out for cynical"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "reasons because they're like this stuff."}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "We've obviously been trying to like"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "weaponize it for so long and nobody"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "knows what this you know we don't we"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "don't know how we have this hasn't been"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "a functioning of a program. It's not"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "it's not the Manhattan Project 2.0"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "anymore. Like the best and brightest"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "physicists aren't on this stuff anymore."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "So like they'll start to talk about it"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "then."}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:27", "text": ">> Okay. breaking tweet right now. Donald"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "J. Trump, what movie we talk about? True"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "social recently."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:30", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:32", "text": ">> Donald and we're just getting this now."}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "This is live. Uh, based on the"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "tremendous interest shown, I will be"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "directing the Secretary of War and other"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "relevant departments and agencies to"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "begin the process of identifying and"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "releasing government files to alien and"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "extraterrestrial life. No way."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "unidentified aerial phenomena and"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "unidentified flying objects, UFOs, and"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "any and all other information connected"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "to these highly complex but extremely"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "extremely interesting and important"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "matters. God bless America."}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:03", "text": ">> I just got the chills."}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:05", "text": ">> Me too."}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:06", "text": ">> That is insane."}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:08", "text": ">> We were Dude,"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:08", "text": ">> we were just talking about this this"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "whole"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:13", "text": ">> We have We have uh UAP Gerb and uh come"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "say hi UAP Gerb and"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:17", "text": ">> Luigi."}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "This is this is breaking news. guys had"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "to go or something."}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:24", "text": ">> It was like we're reading it and I, you"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "know, got to show them."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": ">> Oh my god, dude."}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:28", "text": ">> When When did he tweet this?"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:30", "text": ">> 20 minutes ago."}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:33", "text": ">> Let's go,"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:35", "text": ">> dude. That's wild. We're literally"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "talking about this."}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:38", "text": ">> This is insane."}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:40", "text": ">> We were literally just being like, \"We"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "hope we're not, you know, like"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "marginalized.\""}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:45", "text": ">> I literally just asked you. I was like,"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "\"Yo, why would like what what is Trump"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "the guy?\" Like that's all we talked"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "about pretty much other than the moon"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": ">> I want to cry. I'm so pumped."}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:55", "text": ">> Opening conversation like another level."}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:57", "text": ">> Dude, I'm going to read this one more"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:02", "text": ">> Based on the tremendous interest shown,"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "I will be directing the Secretary of"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "War."}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:07", "text": ">> Pete Pete Hag that basically runs the"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "DoD. They rebranded it to the secretary."}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "Yeah. and other relevant departments and"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "agencies."}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "Quest"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:18", "text": ">> to begin the process of identifying and"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "releasing government files related to"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "alien"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "and extraterrestrial life. He's being"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "crystal clear."}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": ">> Let's go."}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:29", "text": ">> Unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP, and"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "unidentified flying objects, UFOs. He"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "didn't leave anything out."}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:34", "text": ">> No, he was extremely"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": ">> And you're not going to take that back."}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "You cannot put that. There's no running"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "that back. Holy guys."}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:41", "text": ">> Dude, do we just get some type of like"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "beginning of disclosure?"}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:45", "text": ">> This is epic. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:49", "text": ">> Is this happening?"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:50", "text": ">> This there is no going back from this as"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "far as the questions that are going to"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "be asked by everyone going forward. And"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "I I I think it's impossible to stop that"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "train."}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": ">> Yeah. The only thing they could come out"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "with something that denies it, but I"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "doubt that. But even if they tried to do"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "that, that is such a that is I mean that"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "is like a disclosure statement."}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:14", "text": ">> Well, it it it's it's it's what's going"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "to lead to disclosure. Thank you. He he"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "literally says, \"I'm directing the"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "Secretary of War and all other relevant"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "departments and agencies to basically"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "look into and and reveal and"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "everything we know about aliens extra."}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:37", "text": ">> dude. The show that is happening"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "underground somewhere in the desert is"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "probably insane right now. You got"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "people throwing tarps over Tic Tacs. We"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "got people Yeah, this is probably Oh my"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "god, this is chaotic."}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:51", "text": ">> This is chaotic and it's epic."}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:53", "text": ">> Holy cow."}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:54", "text": ">> I'm so happy. And honestly, is does a"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "little part of you feel a little"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "vindicated? just all the conversations"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:00", "text": ">> that we've just No, but just this"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "conversation particularly."}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:02", "text": ">> Well, this is wild."}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:03", "text": ">> We were just talking about this."}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:04", "text": ">> That's a crazy synchronicity."}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:05", "text": ">> We could talk about anything."}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:07", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:08", "text": ">> And we and and normally I wouldn't even"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "get into politics that much cuz I'm like"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "I don't care. I don't care."}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:11", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:13", "text": ">> Whatever. And for some reason I felt"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "really compelled today."}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:16", "text": ">> I do too."}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:17", "text": ">> To talk about Obama, Trump, and usually"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "I don't care like what they say."}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:21", "text": ">> Wild."}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": ">> That's wild. And uh I think you got to"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "rush to deliver this podcast, man."}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:27", "text": ">> Damn. I got Ross coming out tomorrow."}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:29", "text": ">> We'll do that and then I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "know. Whenever you want your thing, but"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "this is crazy."}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:33", "text": ">> Might have to might have to just put"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "this out after tomorrow."}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:39", "text": ">> I don't know, man. It's really"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:41", "text": ">> live reaction to to Donald Trump getting"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "ready for disclosure. It's taking me"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "everything not to grab my phone and"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "scroll through Twitter right now."}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:47", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:48", "text": ">> It must be Dude, all the all the"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "skeptics. H"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:54", "text": ">> I mean both of our phones must be just"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "blowing up and Luigi and UAP G like"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:56", "text": ">> I was hearing I was hearing"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:59", "text": ">> cuz we're all the token like you know"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "UFO friends of like all of our people"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": ">> yeah Brigham just text me the White"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "House dude the White House tweeted this"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": " a this is unbelievable"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": ">> that's crazy"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:17", "text": ">> that's crazy"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "I I'm Dude I want to I want to scroll"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "for 10 minutes and come back into his"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "pod and see like"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:22", "text": ">> I'm down."}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:23", "text": ">> I want to see what people are saying."}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:24", "text": ">> Yeah, we can do that. 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Now, if you'll excuse"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "me."}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "Thank you, Hellof. Now, back to the"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "video."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:56", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "pretty insane."}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:00", "text": ">> Insane,"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:03", "text": ">> you know. So, we had to take a break and"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "just kind of soak in this moment. We"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "held a Twitter spaces, which never do"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "this. I've done it once, Jess. I don't"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "think you've ever done it. Um, and we"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "just wanted to kind of get the reaction"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "and the gestalt of all the people sort"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "of feeling the feelings that we're"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "feeling right now. And"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "you know, I'll let you I'll let you"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "speak to it. There was there was"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "obviously a lot of, you know, initial"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "knee-jerk This is an Epstein cover,"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "which is to be expected, but, you know,"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "there was some great conversations that"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "came with that. You want to you want to"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "uh touch on that a little bit? Yeah, I"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "think we landed on uh yes, the motives"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "of the thing might be cynical, but the"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "thing being true or false is completely"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "orthogonal and separate to the motives"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "possibly, you know, involving"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "distracting from other things."}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:54", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:58", "text": ">> And the nature of reality is on the"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "line. Yeah. Right. So, both are"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "extremely important. We shouldn't let up"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "on the Epstein stuff, obviously. Uh, but"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "I think it's actually interesting like"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "in that it's somewhat analogous where as"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "much as there are still more files to"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "come out, they've probably been"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "sanitized."}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "You know, this administration promised"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "transparency around the issue and in"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "some ways they've been wrestled to the"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "ground on it. like it's you know it was"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "this initial like we're going to get"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "transparency on it and then it was like"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "you know Cash Patel making some denials"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "and then it was like is and then Pam"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "Bondi getting dragged through the mud"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "and then you know a lot of redactions"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "but the files are coming slowly coming"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "out due to Mace and and Massie and a lot"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "of these people and I think there is"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:48", "text": ">> almost no chance after a tweet that is"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "this declarative about inquiring into"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "this stuff which inquiring into But"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "saying even, you know, it like that,"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "you're implying that there is a there"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "there. And it's funny to see my most"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "like kind of rationalist skeptic friends"}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "text me being like, I wonder if they"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "find anything. And it's like, dude, I've"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "like literally like like I've been to DC"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "like like I don't know, probably once a"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "year for the past three or four years. I"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:14", "text": " hate it. I find everybody"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "duplicitous there. But every time you"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "like meet with people around that area,"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "they it's an open secret like which is"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "funny to see like you know. So I still"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "think there's this consensus like lag"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "where like they just haven't quite"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "caught up. And I think this statement"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "from Trump where there's no chance he's"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "going to like"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:35", "text": ">> it's a can of worms."}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:37", "text": ">> It's a can of worm. You open up a can of"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "worm, you can't put the cap back in the"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "bag and it just increases the ser the"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "surface area. you know, say he retracts"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "it immediately,"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:48", "text": ">> don't matter"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:49", "text": ">> four or fivefold. And then if he doesn't"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "and they find it, it's a hundfold. And"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "it's like it becomes"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "taught in in mainstream academia and"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "it's it's it's just it's the beginning"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "of infinity on the topic."}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Well said. I also think that"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "there's an interesting take here because"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "a lot of people's skepticism isn't"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "necessarily about the UFO topic. You"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "know, Luigi had mentioned something"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "interesting too is that this is quite"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "unique in that Barack Obama actually"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "said aliens are real, which gets the"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "Democrats on that side, too. So, it it"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "became this sort of bipartisan argument"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "about you about aliens, which is quite"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "interesting how it started. Um, but then"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "at the other end, you have people who"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "generally hate everything that Trump"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "says, right? And and they have the"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "reasons, and that's totally fine. But"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "even the people who hate Trump and who"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "think that, oh, this is just him trying"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "to get away because they got some dirt"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "on him about Epstein, which is probably,"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "you know, likely. It's very likely. Um,"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "that being said, it almost acts as a"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "sort of"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "almost like a a small dose of"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "ontological truth where they don't have"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "to swallow the full pill. A lot of"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "people who've been following um Trump"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "really closely are probably I'm guessing"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "because this is more of like it's become"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "unfortunately more of like a Republican"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "thing especially within Congress and and"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "uh you sort of you know the arguments"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "online and whatever but it's kind of"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "both sid push over the last 10 years has"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "come from"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:34", "text": ">> I I agree I only mean I only mean"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "recently And but the people who are, you"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "know, completely against anything that"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "Trump says, now they have to sort of"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "subliminally swallow this pill, right?"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "That okay, let's say it is all Epstein"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "stuff. You're still being told the"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "president's looking into aliens. There's"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "no hiding from that statement. And so it"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "acts as like a soft push"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "ontologically, I I think. And so almost"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "a net positive for everyone because just"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "getting that truth from a uh a president"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "you love and admire"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "might be a lot right if Obama had this"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:18", "text": ">> y flip flip the script a little bit."}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "It's a few years ago Obama comes out and"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "says due to popular demand I'm looking"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "into aliens and we're gonna find aliens."}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "and he says it unironically and not as a"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "joke or as a snarky comment on a on a"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "podcast or a you know a late night show,"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "but he says it as a real like he tweets"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "out or whatever. That might be shocking"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "to a lot of people who follow him. Not"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "so shocking if Trump tweets it because"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "he tweets a lot of wild But for"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "the people who don't want to believe or"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "don't really care for Trump, now they're"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "forced to kind of have to swallow that"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "in a way that might be a little"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "healthier instead of just getting it all"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "at once, too. So, I don't know. Maybe an"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "interesting take there. But yeah,"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:04", "text": ">> Trump, say what you will about the guy,"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "but like he acts on instinct. He shoots"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "by the hip and he is not the embodiment"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "of the bureaucracy which a lot of other"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "presidents seem to be like this"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "outgrowth of these you know and then and"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "then you get this like kind of you get"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "these statements like you know you're"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "you're actually the mayor you're not"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "like this you know world dictator you"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "like you're really constrained as far as"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "you know any sort of action that you can"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "take and so yeah no I look just the the"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "fact that a president is making this"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "statement is saying that we are looking"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "into extraterrestrial life and that"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:41", "text": ">> and all the derivatives of that word and"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "those implications like not just UAP"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> not just UAP you know"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:47", "text": ">> not not biologics"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": ">> you had you had statements all the way"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "up to that level you had it from"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "ex-presidents but you didn't have"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:56", "text": ">> this you didn't have a sitting president"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "saying we I have like ordered the"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "department of war to do that and then"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "the you know secretary of war former"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "secretary of defense"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:07", "text": ">> Pete Pete Haggath literally putting an"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "retweeting it with an alien emoji."}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:10", "text": ">> Alien emoji and a saluting emoji."}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:14", "text": ">> Um that was probably the most"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "mind-blowing tweet I read out of like"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "obviously everybody's tweeting it every"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "you know you're"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:24", "text": ">> and and the fact that they are totally"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "fumbling on the Epstein thing makes"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "probably makes him more motivated to get"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "to the actual truth on this."}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:35", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. and might even"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "motivate people who are against Trump"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "to go through the Epstein stuff and get"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "more of that out. So, a net positive on"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "both of those fronts."}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:43", "text": ">> Totally."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:47", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:49", "text": ">> And and just if you take the idea that"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:51", "text": ">> like the the UFO stuff"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:54", "text": ">> speaks to the nature of reality, like"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "the world we're in, we're swimming in,"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "then politics is downstream of that. And"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "the Epstein stuff is weird."}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:01", "text": ">> Yeah. It poisons the well."}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:04", "text": ">> Do the things but yeah but do the things"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "connect at some point? And if you're"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "saying that a truth here is going to"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "actually cause a deficit in your ability"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "to get to the truth here when this truth"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "is really weird. They are positive sum."}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "They're not zero sum. So let's get to"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "the truth on both. This is awesome."}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:19", "text": ">> Absolutely. And I think I think it is a"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "push in the right direction for"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "everything. It's it's"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "you know we've never really hosted one"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "of these spaces ago on Twitter and it's"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "hundreds of people and we heard from"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "some of you know the people in the"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "community which was really nice to sort"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "of let them chime in cuz I was really"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "curious on what the pulse am I reading"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "this wrong is there am I reading into"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "this too much am I getting excited for"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "nothing there is there are those"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "possibilities obviously that okay some"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "people are like it's going to be a"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "nothing burger or he's just he's doing"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "it for the clicks or whatever. Yes, all"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "true, fine, whatever."}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "But I wanted to hear from people and and"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "see how they felt about it. And there is"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "an obvious sense of deserved skepticism,"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "but underneath that, it's nice to hear"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "that there is a hopeful"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "tone uh from the community, from people"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "listening. Yes, people are skeptical and"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "you have a right to be and I am too. But"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "in this moment, in this particular"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "moment in time, you know, I feel a"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "little hopeful."}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:25", "text": ">> I I feel so hopeful. I think it's it's a"}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "it's a moment in history that we'll"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "never forget. And I think uh you can't"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "put the cat back in the bag cuz once you"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "once you say that, you're admitting"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "there's probably a there there. It's"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "clearly in reaction to this bomb Obama"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "stuff and this thing has just been"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "building. And if you know anything about"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "like I think the way governments kind of"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "perform these distractions or scop or"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "any of this stuff, it's you're usually"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "you're not hiding something that's"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "you're usually not like constructing"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "something that's like wholly fabricated."}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:59", "text": ">> You are you might be like say look over"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "here, but the thing over there is often"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "true. And so it might be expedient or"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "whatever for them to look at aliens"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "right now, which is crazy that we're on"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "the timeline where that is the"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "distraction for anything because for the"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "longest time it was like"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:13", "text": ">> everything was the distraction for that"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:15", "text": ">> for that. Um"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:17", "text": ">> but that doesn't mean that it's not"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "true. And and then again if you just"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "like take one more step it's like what"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "are the implications if true on this"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "stuff and like both you and I have like"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "levered our lives into this stuff and"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "kind of know it's true. Yeah. So, like"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "then at that point it's like this is"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "this is really cool and it's going to"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "legit like think about the"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "random kid in his bedroom seeing this"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "who's just like you know disillusioned"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "with like the received wisdom shitty"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "education they're getting or whatever"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "and they see this thing come through and"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "you know maybe they're a fan of some"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "like alien sci-fi movies but they don't"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "know any of this stuff could be legit"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "you know and maybe they've heard"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "smattering sparks it sparks an interest"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "and you're like oh my god Maybe, you"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:59", "text": "know, if the president's saying this,"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "you know, wow. And then you start to"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "look into the lore and you find a"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "podcast or you find a movie."}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:05", "text": ">> The butterfly effect of that tweet"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:09", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> is something that"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:14", "text": "will undoubtedly"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "have an effect on the world. Now, I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "sure people are not going to want to"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "admit that and they're going to want to"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "debate me on that, but it's impossible"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "that you debate something like that"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "because the amount of influence that"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "this person has is great is is enormous."}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "And now that that tweet's being shared"}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "by everyone, there is without a doubt a"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:38", "text": "renewed interest in the topic, like you"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "said, like you know, reaching this"}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "little kid in his room or reaching"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "somebody that was out of the UFO space"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "for years or uh as we mentioned on this"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "space, possibly potentially even"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "influencing and inspiring a"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "whistleblower to now come forward and"}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "seeing this as a call of action. This"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "might be a this might be some this might"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "be like the flare the signal flare that"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "a lot of these people needed saying my"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "commander-in-chief is essentially behind"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "me if I come out."}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:10", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:12", "text": ">> I don't feel like I'm alone. I feel like"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "I'm not going to be laughed out of the"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "room. I feel like this is the right time"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "to come out."}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:19", "text": ">> And if anything, there's an executive"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "mandate from the White House to gain"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "clarity on this topic. Correct. So,"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "you're being asked by the president as"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "somebody working on the these programs."}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "Yes,"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:31", "text": ">> especially if you think they're run in"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "ineffective, corrupt, dysfunctional ways"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "that are actually not always at the best"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "interest of of the country or national"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "security to go directly to the White"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "House and tell them what's up."}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:44", "text": ">> And then and then I think and and and"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "then Trump is somebody who cares about"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "optics and he's not somebody who I think"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "you know is just going to like you don't"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "you don't say something like that and"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "then you probably reaction."}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Not with and and that's the thing."}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "He's also catering to his ego right now."}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:01", "text": ">> It is. And he's good at testing the"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "waters, seeing how people react and then"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "deciding whether to double down. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "I can already tell you without, you"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "know, the data, you know, hasn't, you"}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "know, come in fully, but he's going to"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "view this as a successful test."}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "Absolutely. And he's going to double"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "down."}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:16", "text": ">> He's going to double down. And there's"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "going to, you know, even if we do get"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "slow dripped into disclosure, at least"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "when at least we know what's happening"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "and at least we know there's like"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "activity."}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:27", "text": ">> Yeah. And I mean I think there's a like"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "a decent pmic on society today which is"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": ">> the smartest people work on the dumbest"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "problems. We live in this over"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "financialized society where we're like"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "trading derivatives on derivatives on"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "Wall Street and it's, you know, to to"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "make any money out of college, it's like"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "banking, consulting, like some of these"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "jobs that like aren't, you know, or like"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "you're like in the unique case where you"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "start a really successful startup and"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "even that's being changed tremendously"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "by AI. And so you have this like runaway"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "wealth acrruel and a lot of those jobs"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "don't even involve like value creation."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "They're kind of value extracting and"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "like you know it's like you're trading"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "cards but like with the like the the"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "underlying productive horsepower of the"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "economy and we're moving away from like"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "doing things that are real and it"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "involves technology and it involves"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "physics that like we don't it breaks our"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "modern physics and like you know and"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "metal you've never seen before and uh"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "you know uh you know lift and and and"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "anti-gravidic propulsion and all this"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:36", "text": " that like we don't have access to"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "on the civil side. And so you have this"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "brain drain of these, you know, best and"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "brightest going into these like boring"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "jobs that are like zero sum and"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "extractive. And then you have like this"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "possible like kernel of an economy being"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "sat on by these, you know, FFRDC's,"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "defense contractors, like all the stuff"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "that Gerb has like mapped out in his"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "amazing channel. and it's stuck in these"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "like staltified little dark corners and"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "like let's bring that to the light. It"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "could really change the world and you"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "could say some of it has dual use"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "implications or whatever, but like it"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "looks like World War II might start in"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "the Middle East. So, let's let's maybe"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "start to look into that now and that's"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "really cool and exciting."}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:17", "text": ">> Oh, it absolutely is."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:19", "text": ">> And not something to be cynical about."}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely not. It's"}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "something to be hopeful for. And uh"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "there's a net positive here somewhere,"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "you know. Uh Luigi said something really"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "cool too when we were, you know, all"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "talking on the spaces. He he was talking"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "about sort of how this, you know, how"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "the next steps here might end up being"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "the conversation of offering immunity"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "again. You know, this might we might"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "start to hear this a lot more now."}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:49", "text": ">> Um because that is a very real"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "way to get some of the people in the"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "program to come forward. is in fact the"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "only way I think isn't to kick down"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "doors and to threaten them with jail"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "time. It's to offer them immunity. And"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "look, as long as you say everything, you"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "know, under oath, everything without"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "omitting anything, you're off the hook."}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "Um, I think we're going to start hearing"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:12", "text": "talk about that, I think, a lot more now"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "that this is"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:16", "text": ">> I think I think you will hear talk about"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "that. And then simultaneously, I think"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "maybe some of Trump's enemies were"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "involved in some of these UFO"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "activities. And so you might also see"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "selective, you know, targeting of some"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "of those people around some malfeasants"}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "or, you know, whatever."}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:30", "text": ">> Oh, I see. You think some assassinations"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "are going to start happening?"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:35", "text": ">> Oh, I don't want to say assassin. No,"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "no, no. I just think like um uh you know"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "XYZ person you know isn't a fan of Trump"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "but was implicated in sort of you know"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "these like covert UFO programs where"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "misappropriation of funds occurred."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> Oh yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:54", "text": ">> But we're dealing with you know a hefty"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "sum of money and a lot of secrets and a"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "lot of people who would do anything to"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "protect those secrets. And we know this"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "already. This isn't news. you know, the"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "whistleblowers have told us this much"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "of, you know, the reprisals and all"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "sorts of, you know, threats that have"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:08", "text": ">> Well, I think if if anything like that"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "would occur, they would occur within the"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "program to deter people from coming out."}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:14", "text": ">> But I'm talking about like uh"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:15", "text": ">> or from speaking"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:17", "text": ">> the Trump side being like, hey, this"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "this person like cuz the left and the"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "right are have never been more at war."}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "And like you're"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:24", "text": ">> I guess yeah, we're on we're on"}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "different"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> we're on different track. I'm just like"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "my head's going straight to like all the"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:32", "text": "people scrambling right now somewhere in"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "a in a deep underground military"}, {"start": "01:31:32", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "installation."}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:38", "text": ">> Yeah. who are reading this tweet on"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:40", "text": "their, you know, on their break after"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "their they grab their securized phone"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "from like their Faraday box and they're"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "looking at, you know, Truth Social or or"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "Twitter, whatever, and they read this"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "tweet and you just start hearing in the"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "halls of these cavernous"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "installations, the murmurss of people"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "and their excitement and their worry."}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "And you just you're hearing the chatter"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "and you can't help but it's very audible"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "because everybody's looking at each"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "other like holy Like these people"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:14", "text": ">> not people you know above ground. I I"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "mean the people who are very close to"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "this stuff"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:20", "text": ">> guaranteed"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:22", "text": ">> this tea is spilled and those people are"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "cleaning it up right now. They're like"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:28", "text": ">> dude did you just did you like you got"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "to imagine I can't even fathom what that"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "must be like right now. the atmosphere"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "in these high stress intense"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "environments where stress levels are"}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "already really high due to high security"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "and like compartmentalized you know"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "access and information."}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "This must be just the most like wild"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "thing. I'm sure at the individual"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "contributor level there's a ton of"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "disperate pockets of a lot of excitement"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:32:58", "text": ">> and oh my god I'm being heard for the"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "first time and then I'm sure at the"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "managerial and executive level"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:04", "text": ">> like you all shut up. Everybody here"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "shuts up. You don't say a word. I know"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "you're on Twitter. You shut up."}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:09", "text": ">> No, they're probably thinking we're in"}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "Vishy France and D-Day is about to occur"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "and you know we better cover our ass."}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "You're with us or you're against us."}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:17", "text": ">> Yeah. And whatever whatever the"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "happened to the Epstein files when that"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "was telegraphed around transparency from"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "the Trump incoming Trump admin is might"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "be h I bet you a lot of documents are"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "being burned right now."}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:31", "text": ">> Oh definitely shredded burned,"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "you know, places being completely"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "leveled. I'm sure things being moved"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:38", "text": ">> cuz Trump is, you know, he definitely he"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "was going to say,"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:42", "text": ">> you want to see what's going on right"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "now? Look at who's ordering pizza at"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "this hour. like for real,"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:46", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:49", "text": ">> You know, like they had when they had"}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "the spikes of uh you know, when when I"}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "think Iran was being bombed, uh was it"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "Iran or Palestine or when Palestine was"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "being bombed by uh Israel or whatever?"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:04", "text": ">> Uh when the strike first happened,"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:06", "text": ">> the Pentagon had like a giant order of"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "pizzas that night before the strike"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "happened. Right. And so this this"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "strange metric, but"}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:12", "text": ">> war gaming or"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:14", "text": ">> Exactly. Like people are like, \"All"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "right, we're in for a long night.\" And"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "like, you know, go around the country"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "and look at where pizza is just being"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "flooded into these strange areas and"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "you're probably you're probably going to"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "stumble on some uh Yeah. some worried"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "people."}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:30", "text": ">> Yeah. And Trump, you know, it's like"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "talk softly and carry a big stick stick."}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "Trump talks big and carries a big stick."}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "He he he follows up on the thing. He"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "literally just like kidnapped the"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "president of Venezuela. Like the guy,"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "you can criticize him for whatever you"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "want, but the guy takes action. Yeah, he"}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "does just move on things and when he he"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "say he says he's going to do things like"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "he'll say stuff about tariffs visa v"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "China and he'll do it and the stock"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "market will tank and he's like, well,"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "I'm just renegotiating the world and"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "it's all this art of the deal stuff."}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:04", "text": ">> Uh and so I don't know what the deal,"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:10", "text": ">> well the deal here is clear. I mean, he"}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "he starts his tweet off with uh due to"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "popular demand,"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:16", "text": ">> right? So, obviously showing your hand"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "right away. Um, which again, net"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "positive,"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:21", "text": ">> huge."}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:23", "text": ">> Um, but he's also signaling that like,"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "oh, this is people like me now. This is"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "I'm a hero. All right. And if people"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "just keep doubling down on that, dude,"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "we can appeal to his ego and gaslight"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "this guy to give us UFOs. like"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:36", "text": ">> this is this is what we're doing right"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "now. We need to like praise this guy. Be"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "like, \"You're doing a great job,"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "Donald.\""}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:40", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:42", "text": ">> just keep him going."}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:42", "text": ">> He was a reality TV star and he, you"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "know, he was"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:47", "text": ">> feed his ego a little bit."}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> Totally. And he's I think uh I don't"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "know. I think he's probably feeling"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "pumped. I'm sure he's getting positive"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "feedback from the people around him. The"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "interesting thing about the UFO thing,"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "and this is why I think we are gonna"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "Yeah, go for it."}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:35:58", "text": ">> Oh, sorry. I was going to say I wonder"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "if there's a way to like do that with"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "the Epstein Files with him and just be"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "like you weren't there."}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:04", "text": ">> You weren't on that island."}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:06", "text": ">> I think that"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:07", "text": ">> they wouldn't have invited you."}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:09", "text": ">> There's no way you were important enough"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "to be on that island and touch those"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "kids. There's no way they would have"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "invit you weren't even like a big shot"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "back then and just watch him like just"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "go, \"What do you I was on that island a"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "hundred times.\""}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:22", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:23", "text": ">> it's my take into gaslighting Trump into"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "everything. You could probably gaslight"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "him into everything and just have Obama"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "say he can't do something"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:32", "text": ">> and then he's just like,"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:35", "text": ">> \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:38", "text": ">> great friend Epstein.\""}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:41", "text": ">> And and I I think whatever applies to"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "him applies to the whole world. Like"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "it's there are these like game theory"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "dynamics where, you know, we're like"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "first to draw blood on this stuff. Like"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "I do think you you end up with other"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "countries trying to like curry for like"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "random countries being like well we had"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:57", "text": "a few sightings back in the day and we"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "actually have some files on it or"}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "whatever and then they realize that it's"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "this like crazy popularity play visa"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "their visa v their bases and then they"}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "come out and then you get this sort of"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "like the the these pockets popping up"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "and it becomes this contagion."}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Or other other countries"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "potentially trying to vive for his"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "affection as well. Like if you have some"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "other, you know, country looking for"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "America's protection, um, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "president of said country might also be"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "like, \"We're with you. We're also"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "looking at our files.\" You know, we"}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "might see this."}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": ">> The the fallout of this could be a"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "multitude of things that lead to a"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "varying amount of disclosure."}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:36", "text": ">> And Russia and China are thinking, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "we're falling behind now.\" And like our"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "populations are going to feel like"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "we're, you know, not on top of this"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "topic. I'll be I'll I'll I'll be blunt"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "and and this is my prediction."}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:49", "text": ">> The amount of sightings is going to jump"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "10fold."}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:57", "text": ">> Um and not from act maybe not from"}, {"start": "01:37:53", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "actual sightings. It'll jump 10fold from"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "people being interested in this topic."}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "Not unlike what happened with the drone"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "situation where a lot of people were"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "looking up filming and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "sightings were going up. So it creates"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "this like false reality that there are"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "like more NHI or more UFOs when in fact"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "it's just more people being interested"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "in the topic. So look for a lot of sort"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "of wild and crazy you know claims all"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "sorts of videos hitting uh you know"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "Twitter and all the social media in even"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "military stuff. You're going to get"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "fleer footage. This is my prediction"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "that in the next week or so we're going"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "to be inundated with UFO videos. I think"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "so too, but I I think so for that reason"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "because of this sort of like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "mass consensus shift. And then I also"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "think we're entering a very troubled and"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:47", "text": "bizarre time. And you have on your"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "amazing swaggy uh merch. You have"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "invisible college, you know, established"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "1648. 1648 is the end of the 30 years"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "war. You know, 168 is a treaty of"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "Westfailia that they signed. And in that"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "period, they were reporting like aerial"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "stuff, like weird stuff happening in the"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "sky. In fact, uh, Decart, I think, had a"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "weird experience in the Prussian army."}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "He was fought in the in the 30 years"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "war, sort of this like paranormal"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "experience. And so, I I think it t times"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "of like kind of sort of really crazy"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "disruption. I think and that also was"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "when the Renaissance kicked off like"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "that. They call it like the the"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "Rosacrruian, you know, um, the"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "Rosacrruian enlightenment or whatever."}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "there was this um Francis Yates uh book"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "about like these Rosacrruian documents"}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "sort of spawning the enlightenment. And"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "so I think we're living in this axial"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "age where past meaning structures and"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "systems Allah organized religion are"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "being sloed off collapsing and we're"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "going to need new models to incorporate"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "these observables which are just"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "breaking down the dam of the kind of"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "establishment paradigm."}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:54", "text": ">> Exciting time to be in. This is an"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "exciting timeline to be a part of. Um,"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "I'm going to I got some questions. We're"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "going to call it after this because it's"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "getting late."}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:02", "text": ">> Yeah, it is."}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:04", "text": ">> And you know, we got to get back to doom"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "scrolling. Um, give me a second."}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:10", "text": ">> Thanks for uh thanks for doing this."}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:11", "text": ">> Yeah, of course, man. This is fun."}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:12", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:14", "text": ">> it's pretty historic."}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:16", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. I'm It's so cool to do"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "this with you on a day like this."}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:20", "text": ">> Definitely."}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:22", "text": ">> It's nuts. and so wild that we were"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "talking about"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "literally exactly what ended up"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "happening as it happened. It was this"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "big like what the"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": ">> Yeah. And and contemplating what that"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "would be like."}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. It's like we were like uh"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "you know we hope this isn't stigmatized"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "forever. It's so crazy."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:44", "text": ">> Yeah. That was literally the question,"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "wasn't it? It's"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:47", "text": ">> crazy. Um,"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "man, I don't know if any of these"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "questions are really relevant anymore."}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "That's the thing."}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:58", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:00", "text": ">> Um, well, just cuz they're like so off"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "topic now. Like, we're so It'd be weird"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "to like shift into something else. But I"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "will say this is a great question. This"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "is from"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:10", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:11", "text": ">> Uh, Hex. So, I'm going to prompt this"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "one here."}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:14", "text": ">> Hex is always asking good questions."}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> He is asking good questions. And his"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "name won't be on the split flat because"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "it couldn't fit, but 130 characters."}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "It's a great question."}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": ">> If you could relive your time spent with"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "Malgren knowing it would be his last"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "interview,"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:33", "text": ">> what would you change?"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:35", "text": ">> So many things. So many things. I"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "thought I had multiple days with the guy"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "and his health literally went downhill"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:44", "text": "after that first interview. So, it was a"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "4-hour interview, but like on he was so"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "he ended up getting sick after that and"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "then he ended up in the hospital."}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "I uh stayed for a little bit to try to"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "help Pipa to the extent I can. his his"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "daughter uh ended up having to leave cuz"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "it was like I think 10 days into that"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "and then I think a couple weeks after"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "that or something his health was really"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "in bad shape and he gave me a call and"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "this made it into the video. But we"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "spoke and I asked him about this time"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "when uh you know he was he was he this"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "crazy story where he's this poor"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "painter's son uh right outside of Boston"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "and he ends up painting the house of"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "Carl Compton who is the president of MIT"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "and runs the war production board at the"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "time and uh you know probably implicated"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "in actually literally like there are"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "apocryphal stories of him being shown"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "stuff at right pattern And I think this"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "comes from Sarbacher. So it was right"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "airfield at the time. And so like"}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:47", "text": "probably imp implicated in the UFO"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "stuff, definitely deep in like kind of"}, {"start": "01:42:47", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "nuclear world, national security world."}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "And Malmrim starts talking to him about"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "how photons act as an entangled system."}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": ">> And this literally talk about like"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "breaking Einstein's like like literally"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "cutting edge physics."}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:08", "text": ">> Cutting edge physics. wrote in his EPR"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "paper about entanglement, but"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "entanglement had never been like"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "properly like measured yet. It was"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:13", "text": "really like wild."}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:16", "text": ">> Yeah. He's talking about how photons are"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "attached and like insane."}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:19", "text": ">> Yeah. They were Yeah. Entangled photons"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "work as a system and that I think that"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "was like 60s when that was like, you"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "know, verified"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:25", "text": ">> and Compton was like this guy."}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:28", "text": ">> Yeah. This was like, you know, we got to"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "get this guy a full ride. And and then"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "he also I think wrote a letter to uh the"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "Atomic Energy Commission Malm Grin and"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "we literally were going through the"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "pages what they wrote back and he says"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:44", "text": "you know it was around that time that my"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "name got put in uh you know it's"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "basically some like tracking list that"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "the CIA had or whatever."}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Some fast track."}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Right. And because he was"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "clearly this prodigious like genius"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:55", "text": ">> and they knew that"}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:43:58", "text": ">> and Yeah. And they knew that. And then"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "um he goes, \"Not only the CIA,\" he goes,"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "\"but the majestic, the ones who thought"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:07", "text": "upon it, who who who who who thought it"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "on themselves to guard the secrets of"}, {"start": "01:44:07", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "the world or something like that.\""}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:11", "text": ">> He says the majestic."}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:14", "text": ">> He says the majestic. And he had throat"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "cancer. Uh I think 11 or 12 years"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "earlier, so it's really hard to make out"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:21", "text": "exactly what he was saying in this long"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "phone call. And so we had to actually um"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "subtitle the entire video. And so we"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "subtitle that part. I watch it back and"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "I go, \"Oh, fuck.\" He said majestic. He"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "said he was being tracked"}, {"start": "01:44:31", "end": "01:44:35", "text": ">> and you didn't catch it."}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:36", "text": ">> I didn't even catch it on the spot."}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:39", "text": ">> You didn't catch on the spot."}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:42", "text": ">> And and then you go you look at his life"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "and I have to say if there's any sort of"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "hermetic Okay, I'll tell you a story."}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "I'll tell you I'll tell you a story. I"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "never I don't think I've ever told this"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "story. Okay. We were driving him to the"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "hospital and it was me, Pippa, him, and"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "my girlfriend."}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:04", "text": "And I asked him, \"Um,"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "do have you ever, you know, do is there"}, {"start": "01:45:04", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "ever any connection? Do you ever feel"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "like there's anything um real about like"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "a like a timetraveling intelligence"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "agency?\" Which sounds really like a"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "weird question, but I'm down this crazy"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "thread with the Towns and Brown stuff"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "and him viewing himself as a time"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "traveler. And then I' I've come up, you"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "know, I've there's so much evidence that"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "he actually made, you know, progress in"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "gravity. Gravity and time are related in"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "general relativity. And then he, you"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "know, there's the Tim Taylor stuff about"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "them being part of the secret time"}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "travel group. And and Malgren's like"}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:35", "text": "investigating all this stuff at the end"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "of his life."}, {"start": "01:45:35", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "And he had been talk every single thing"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "other thing I had asked him. I even"}, {"start": "01:45:39", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "remember specifically I said uh I was"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "trying to remember the name of um the"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:49", "text": "mayor, the former mayor of Lennengrad"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "and he goes, \"Supch.\" He like he was"}, {"start": "01:45:49", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "sharp as attack even with his oxygen"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "levels at 89 as we're driving him to the"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "hospital. So he remembers that and he's"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "talking he's telling all these stories"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "about Nixon and and and Schultz and"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "Pompadoo and you know just these like"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "world leaders like you know all over the"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "world. So also like to the debunkers"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "like you. Like you don't understand"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "just how sharp this guy was at an old"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "age clearly knowing intimate details"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "about all of these worldly just pattern"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "matched to to me and I've met a lot of"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:27", "text": "smart people to somebody who was like an"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "elite statesman. And when I asked that"}, {"start": "01:46:27", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "question about the time traveling"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "intelligence agency, he just went silent"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "and it was like this eerie and like"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "Pippa noted it and we all we all were"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "like this is just I don't know it was"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "strange. It was like everything else he"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "was like this chatter box like even as"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "his health was not amazing"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "and I don't know I don't know what that"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "means. I have no idea what that means"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "but uh it was interesting and um"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:53", "text": ">> was that in the car ride he said?"}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:55", "text": ">> Yeah it was on the in the car ride. He"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "was sitting in front,"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:56", "text": ">> I think. So, yeah."}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:46:57", "text": ">> You guys were in back?"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:46:59", "text": ">> No, I was driving."}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:00", "text": ">> Oh, you were driving. He was in front"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "with you. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:03", "text": ">> And he, like you said, he was responsive"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "to everything else you were talking to"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "him about."}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:07", "text": ">> He was answering everything else. We"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "heard you."}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:12", "text": ">> To me, that interview was like, and this"}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "is the reason I brought up Krypto's"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "conundrum at the end of the interview."}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "Um, and I think shout out to Matt Pines"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "because I think he made the connection."}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "He was like, \"Chalmer's kind of reminds"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "me of Malgrren.\""}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "And to me, that interview wasn't"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "interesting because you have a guy who's"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "reporting to have held UFO pieces in his"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "hand. Obviously, that's fascinating that"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "came out of the this nuclear blast. To"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "me, what was so interesting about that"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "interview was the bizarre"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "synchronicities throughout his life that"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "only came together at the end of his"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "life looking backwards and him popping"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "up at pivotal moments where like it felt"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "like the world could have ended. And him"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "always being the guy not taking credit"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "in the kind of back of the room. And"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "then at the end of his life, he almost"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "feels this like hermetic because this is"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "a clearly this like company man who"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "doesn't talk I mean he didn't even admit"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "he was probably an official cover CIA"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "guy in the interview that I did with him"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:18", "text": "but pro like for sure was and um so he's"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "like you know upholding every oath and"}, {"start": "01:48:18", "end": "01:48:23", "text": "but is somehow feels this need to like"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "talk about all this stuff and then you"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:26", "text": "have the synchronicities with Carl"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "Compton and"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "living in certain places at certain"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "times and holding the material and"}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:35", "text": ">> but also talking to you."}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:37", "text": ">> That's crazy, too. And I I it felt it"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "felt deeply meaningful to me personally"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "as well."}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:42", "text": ">> And I think it it came across that way."}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:45", "text": "And"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "no one"}, {"start": "01:48:45", "end": "01:48:49", "text": "no one, and I mean this, no one would"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "have had a better interview."}, {"start": "01:48:49", "end": "01:48:52", "text": ">> Well, I appreciate you saying that. I"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "don't know if that's true."}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:56", "text": ">> I think I think everyone would agree"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "that like you were and and Gerb and and"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "Luigi, they're nodding their heads. like"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "no one would have done a better job."}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "That was you were meant to interview"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "Harold Malgren."}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:10", "text": ">> I I felt uh you're going to make me cry,"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "man. I I felt a a deep uh a deep"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:15", "text": "connection with him. Like uh he would"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "talk about like getting called up by"}, {"start": "01:49:15", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "these people who he felt were like way"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "above his pay grade at a young age."}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:25", "text": ">> And you know, and they like saw"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "something in him. And I I I definitely"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "felt this. I felt this like weird"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:30", "text": "hermetic like"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:31", "text": ">> he saw something in you too."}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:34", "text": ">> It I felt"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:35", "text": ">> there was a reason that he re like"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "there's a reason"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:40", "text": ">> like there's there has to be Jesse you"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "were with him when he died"}, {"start": "01:49:40", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "you know that's not nothing and and like"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "you said there's one chance he has to"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "tell even the smallest part of his story"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "that he wants people to ponder Yeah. or"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "to think about. And there there's more"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:59", "text": "about that week that I I don't even feel"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "comfortable talking about publicly that"}, {"start": "01:49:59", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "I I'd want to you know talk to Pippa"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "about and I you know I don't even know"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "you know if"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:09", "text": ">> I don't want to speak out of turn but it"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:10", "text": "was a gnarly week. It was really"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "really intense for me."}, {"start": "01:50:10", "end": "01:50:14", "text": ">> Yeah. You told me some of the details"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "and uh what you went through what people"}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "don't know."}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:21", "text": ">> Is uh really tough, shocking, jarring."}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "really jarring and and made me extremely"}, {"start": "01:50:21", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "angry when people came after him."}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:25", "text": ">> I understand"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:27", "text": ">> because"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:27", "text": ">> you had to take some time and step away."}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:31", "text": ">> Cuz you were so you were still"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "distraught from your experience, you"}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "know, during his passing."}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:40", "text": ">> Um that I you know, I understand. And uh"}, {"start": "01:50:37", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "it's not easy and it's not easy to hold"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "your composure during that when you're"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "not really given a"}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "like a guide"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:48", "text": ">> on how to deal with that."}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:51", "text": ">> Yeah. because it's a wild thing to have"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "to deal with, to be forced to deal with."}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "Um, but you did it really graciously, I"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "think. And and um, and then I think even"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "more importantly, I think you took that"}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "experience and you made a beautiful"}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "thing out of it and something that I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "sure, you know,"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "many people I'm sure he would be proud"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "of."}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:09", "text": ">> I hope so, man."}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:11", "text": ">> I absolutely think so."}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:13", "text": ">> I I I almost wish he could have seen it."}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "And and I'm so grateful"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "to Pipa, too. And you know, I'm I I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "really I'm really sad cuz I think he"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "wanted to do more stuff after me and I"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "think he wanted to say more. And this"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "question, I mean, it's a great question"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "by Hex. It's like"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:34", "text": ">> he had he was clearly by the end of the"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:37", "text": "video, this is why this question is so"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "good. It was so obvious that he was"}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "sitting on much much more. And so, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "I just wish I had more time with the"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "guy. And it it it is one of these"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:48", "text": "stories"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "in this field. You're always it's like"}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "you're chasing ghosts and it's like"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "right before you get the hard drive with"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "the footage or before you, you know,"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:51:58", "text": "meet the person that's going to tell you"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:51:59", "text": "everything, whatever. It it it always"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "seems to kind of slip through your"}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "fingers, but you also kind of get enough"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "to keep going. It's this weird"}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "thing. And I don't know, man. I I just I"}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:12", "text": "I I I think what saddened me most about"}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "that whole thing was he was a guy that"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "like I I would have loved to have like"}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "called a mentor and like spent we could"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "have talked for because he was I love"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "people who are at the intersection and"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "and Pipa's a little like this too of"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "trippy and um legit and like but like"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "operating at a high level and there"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "aren't too many people usually it's like"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "you're operating at a high level you"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "just want to make more money or you want"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "more power"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:38", "text": ">> and then occasionally ally you meet"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "somebody who's operating at that level"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "who's tethered to something that's kind"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "of transcendent and you feel it with"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "them you feel that energy and he had"}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "that like sharp as attack like you know"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "again elite statesman map of a world in"}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "his head like kind of Kissinger type in"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "his knowledge but then the exact"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:58", "text": "opposite vibe of Kissinger no like you"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "know he was he was an angel surrounded"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:03", "text": "by devils he you know they were all"}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "bloodthirsty and he had like restraint"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "and pure intentions and was discreet And"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "uh and uh I I we need people like that."}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:14", "text": "And whenever I meet, you know, I just"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "interviewed this guy Ralph Moat Larson,"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:19", "text": "this, you know, DOE director of intel,"}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:22", "text": "and he was a CIA guy for like decades."}, {"start": "01:53:19", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "And whenever I meet a guy like that, I'm"}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "always like, \"Please, if there's"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "anything you can else you can tell me on"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "um Harold, ple please, you know, let me"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "know because I I really want to v I'm I"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:39", "text": "I think that was the tip of the iceberg."}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:41", "text": "I think that guy did so much more it"}, {"start": "01:53:39", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "just uh"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "silently and in the shadows to to help"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "and thanklessly to help the country. And"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "I I would love to help bring that to"}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "light and to and you know if anybody out"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "there knows anything reach out to Pippa"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "please first and for me and I'll send it"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "to her."}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:04", "text": ">> Um but uh yeah I don't know."}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:07", "text": ">> Well it's awesome. And it's awesome to"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "hear you talk with such uh"}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:14", "text": "with such conviction about a man who you"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "barely knew and yet, you know, you hear"}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "this"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "deep deep respect um for this man. And I"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "can't I can't help but also feel that"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "through your work and and your"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "conviction. So, thanks for sharing. It's"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "11:11. Whoa."}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:33", "text": ">> Um last question. Cool."}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "and then we'll get going. We got a show"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "tomorrow."}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:40", "text": ">> We got a show tomorrow."}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:44", "text": ">> It's a big question by Epiph Epiphery. I"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "hope I'm pronouncing that right."}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:48", "text": ">> Uh, what is your end goal with what you"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "do? At what point would you feel like"}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:52", "text": "you had achieved what you wanted to"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:55", "text": "accomplish?"}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:56", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a great question."}, {"start": "01:54:55", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "I don't know. I talk about this with you"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "all the time and like I get really tired"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "of this topic. I get tired of creating"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:06", "text": "content. I don't think I'm like a"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "natural performer, content creator"}, {"start": "01:55:06", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "person or whatever. I just, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "tell you this all the time, like I have"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:17", "text": "a show because it's leveraged to meet"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "interesting people so I can get closer"}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "to the truth myself."}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:23", "text": ">> Yep. And I just ha I film it so that I"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "could document it so it gains a bigger"}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:29", "text": "following so I can like get the next"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "person on the show so I can ask them"}, {"start": "01:55:29", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "more questions and ideally get closer to"}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "some truth."}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:38", "text": "But I get tired of the, you know, kind"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:42", "text": "of I don't know the the public stuff is"}, {"start": "01:55:38", "end": "01:55:44", "text": "that's kind of hard and like uh I I do"}, {"start": "01:55:42", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "think that the whole field can be very"}, {"start": "01:55:44", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "like divisive and in kind of a clearly"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:53", "text": "manufactured way and uh I've been"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "thinking a lot about like the the"}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "science stuff is like I'm I'm really"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:59", "text": "interested in that and I like it because"}, {"start": "01:55:57", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "you can't really argue against it and so"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "if you can put something out that's like"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:07", "text": "adjacent or inspired by UFO or directly"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "related to UFOs that is scientific and"}, {"start": "01:56:07", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "replicable and usable in like a civil"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "side context."}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "I feel like I'd be really happy and I'd"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "be like be like you know what"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:19", "text": ">> you made it."}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And you you know like every"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "you know Chris you bear the mant"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:26", "text": "you know you do this you know other"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "people do and like you know I don't know"}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:31", "text": ">> I want out too. What are you talking?"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:34", "text": ">> But like that or like a I don't know"}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "like a think tank where I do I love I"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "love obvious the show is so fun but this"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "like weekly cadence of like putting out"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "the next thing. It's tough."}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:43", "text": ">> It's tough and it to me all I care about"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "again is like the theoretical sense"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "making of developing like a coherent"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "worldview"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:50", "text": ">> but then you get sort of swept away with"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "all the other things that you might"}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "think you need and might think you want"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "due to the pressure of creating content."}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "That's right. All that stuff. And I re"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "sometimes I'm like I just want to be in"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "like a room with a bunch of other people"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "I respect with like you know little"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "index cards and like you know you know"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:12", "text": ">> a bulletin board or something and like"}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:14", "text": ">> creating a map of what's happening and"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "really just thinking like engaging in"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:18", "text": "sort of deep thought. So"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:20", "text": ">> but you found a way to do that and make"}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:22", "text": "a living out of doing that for sure. You"}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "know that's that's an awesome thing to"}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "do as well. I I I think as far as people"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "who are like aligned with their like"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "daily life goes, like I'm I'm definitely"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "in like the 90th. I I love what I"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:31", "text": " love what I do and I'm so"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "grateful."}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:35", "text": ">> But um"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:37", "text": ">> but if you see a way out for you and"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:39", "text": "like this is it, I've accomplished it."}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "It would be at the end of all of your"}, {"start": "01:57:39", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "journeys, all of your seeking would be"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:50", "text": "to help create or spawn some type of"}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "um I guess technology or or or some type"}, {"start": "01:57:50", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "of innovation derived from"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:58", "text": ">> the search. It would be really awesome"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "to like help usher something in that's"}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "like objectively just a benefit to"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "humanity and just this cuz I mean and a"}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:08", "text": "lot of this stuff can be dystopian and"}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:10", "text": "dual use but like whatever it's being"}, {"start": "01:58:08", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "used for in the legacy program is the"}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "bad use of it you know it's the bad part"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "of the duel and so if if any of that can"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "be you know"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:20", "text": ">> I would argue you already do that with"}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "your show."}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:23", "text": ">> Well thank you man."}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": ">> Well but I think a lot of people would"}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:29", "text": "agree as well. I think that you know the"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "what you provide is you know in this"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "sort of selfish quest to figure out you"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "know the questions that you want"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "answered you're taking people along and"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "by that answering their questions as"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "well. So you are creating that service"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "and that there is a demand for that and"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "that does innovate, change and inspire"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "the world. And so although not a"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "physical object you can hold that's"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "derived from a UFO, I think the change"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "that you create with what you're doing"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:04", "text": "now is just as lasting and if not,"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "I think more important."}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:09", "text": ">> Well, I really appreciate that, man. But"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "I still I want some of these scientific"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "principles I talk about to not have the"}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "current stigma they do. I want them to"}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "be like, \"Oh, yeah, that's a thing.\""}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:19", "text": ">> And I want you to I want you to want"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "that to keep making shows."}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:23", "text": ">> I will. I will. I will. I will. And I"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "will for the foreseeable future. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "I'm pumped right now. But uh"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:29", "text": ">> yeah, I'd be I'd be really really"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "excited about that. That would be that"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "would be awesome. And I"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:34", "text": ">> All right. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:35", "text": ">> Well, Jesse, I know it's getting late,"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "man. And I want to I want to thank you"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "for doing this so late. I appreciate"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "you. I appreciate your friendship. And I"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:44", "text": "I want to say shout out to Gerb and and"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:48", "text": "Luigi for being, you know, Peanut"}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:50", "text": "Gallery here, but also, you know, just"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "hanging out and being here in this"}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "pretty historic moment. Um not sure when"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:55", "text": "I'm going to put up this podcast. I'm"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "I'm in my head right now wondering if I"}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "should release this prior to Ross and"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:02", "text": "just throw it out there as a reaction um"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "or the same day. I don't know. We'll"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "figure it out. But um appreciate you"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "very much guys. Go check out American"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "Alchemy on all platforms uh anywhere you"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "listen to your podcast. Um follow"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "everything Jesse does. He's an important"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:17", "text": "guy and you'll be a better person by"}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "doing so. I guarantee it. Thanks Jesse."}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:21", "text": ">> Love you man. Thank you."}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:21", "text": ">> Love you too."}]

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Thus began the contact"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "movement, the space brothers, if you"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "will. And each of the stories was pretty"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "similar, describing the same unsettling"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "idea that we are not alone and have"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "never been alone. But among all these"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "accounts, one stands out to me more than"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "the others. Because this particular one"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "wasn't about a visitor in the desert or"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "in the sky, but inside the very heart of"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "the American military power, a man known"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "only as valiant Thor. Described as"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "physically human, intellectually beyond"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "us, and deeply concerned with the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "direction of our species. What makes"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "this so interesting is it wasn't a crash"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "survivor or some fleeting encounter."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "This was someone who roamed the halls of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the Pentagon. And today, we're not here"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "to prove that a visitor from Venus was"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "walking among us. We're just here to ask"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "more questions, like, why at the height"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "of the Cold War did so many people start"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "telling the same type of story? And why"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "does the name Valiant Thor still echo"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "throughout UFO history today, long after"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the Space Brothers themselves"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "faded away?"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Chris Ramsey and today obviously we're"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "going to be taking a look at one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "most fascinating characters in all of"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "recent eupfology in the last probably 70"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "years was Valiant Thor. I remember"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "hearing about this for the very first"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "time on some YouTube video long ago and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "since then have taken a few dives into"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "trying to find out if this was real, if"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "this was credible. Now there's a book"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "called Stranger at the Pentagon and this"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "was written by Dr. Frank E. Strange,"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "who's now passed, but Dr. Strange was, I"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "believe, a minister and also had some"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "ties into, you know, this program. And"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "he claims that he'd met this visitor and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "he went on a few tours doing lectures"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "and public speaking engagements. And he"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "was, I got to say, quite an entertaining"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "fellow."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> I said, uh, what is your name? He said,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Commander Valiant Thor. He said, you"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "call me Val. I said, thank you."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "And how long have you been here? Three"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "and a half years. This coming March 16th"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "of 1960."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "And uh what have you been doing here? He"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "said, I've been conversing with the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "president of the United States, Dwight"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "D. Eisenhower, and"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Mr. Nixon, who I met personally some"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "years afterward,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "and several members of the Joint Chiefs"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "of Staff. He said, \"I brought a gift for"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "them"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "and this gift"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "was in my hands and I looked into the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "eyes of Mr. Eisenhower.\" I said, \"This"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "will do away with sickness, disease, and"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "even death in the United States, and"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "then you can share it with other"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "nations.\" Gave it to the president."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "President Eisenhower received this"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "It took them over one year to get back"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to the commander. He was their guest for"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "three years at the Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "And one year later, the president came"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "back, met with the commander again with"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "this information in his hands, shaking"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "his head, he said, \"I'm sorry. we cannot"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "accept this information because it will"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "ruin the economy of the United States."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> He would uh you know often act out a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "of these interactions that he had while"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "on the spacecraft with Valiant Thor. And"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "you know although doesn't seem too"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "credible, the story nonetheless is"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "incredibly enticing and really"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "compelling. So we're going to be taking"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "a few excerpts of the stranger at the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Pentagon today and reading through it."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Right. Before we do, folks,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "I want to talk about something. We just"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "had our very first"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "um It's Probably nothing live show"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "happen in Austin, Texas at the Paramount"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Theater to a soldout crowd. It was"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "unbelievable. We didn't actually record"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "the conversation. Uh we signed up for"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "basically uh archival footage, but we"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "didn't want to uh buy the commercial"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "rights for anything. It was an"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "exorbitant price. It was a lot of money,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "and we said, you know what? We're just"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "going to keep it private, low-key, and"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "sort of special for that very first one."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Now, the one we have next week, which"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "will be in Montreal at the Rialto"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Theater, will be filmed. That one will"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "be available on YouTube eventually. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "but this last one was not. Here's a"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "quick excerpt segment from that evening,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "including Bob Lazar walking out on stage"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "and the crowd erupting."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "for delivery,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "hurry right away. No delay. Stop. Make"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "your daddy glad. You have such a land to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "tell your feet our mind. Be proud. Our"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "boys in line"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "right away. No delay."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Make your daddy."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Please welcome director of Bazar story."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "I don't even know what to say. This is"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "so surreal."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> I just want to shut up and listen."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "All they do."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> If you want to see a longer behind the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "scenes"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "video that I made documenting the entire"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "process, you know, before the setup,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "during and after. Uh, head over to our"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "membership. 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Let's get into reading"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Stranger at the Pentagon. By the way, if"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "you're"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "eyeing this this shirt, this is a new"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "collection. Hasn't dropped yet. So, this"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "will be out soon. We got a bunch more"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "coming your way from Invisible College,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "and I look forward to sharing that with"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "you guys. We're going to start off at"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "the uh introduction here because the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "introduction is by Harley Andrew Bird"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "who was allegedly apparently a member of"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "the Navy. I think that's verified"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "actually uh whose father was Rear"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Admiral Richard Eird. So I guess a"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "prominent figure in the Navy. And so"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "that I suppose adds a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "credibility to what is about to be"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "discussed here. So let's start. The"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Valor landing"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "project blue book."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "During the winter of 1956-57,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "the Washington DC area was extremely"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "cold, but it was a good feeling to be"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "working in a high security position in"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "the Pentagon. I lived only a short"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "distance away from Georgetown, the old"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "section of nation's capital. Senator JF"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Kennedy lived on O Street, just a block"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "away from our house on Prospect. During"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "a successful tour with the US Naval"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Ceremonial Guard, we had met with"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "astronauts Glenn Cooper, Wally Sherar,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "who were the first wave of successful"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "space travelers."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Also, we had visited the tomb of the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "unknown soldier numerous times. It"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "seemed like every time a visiting"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "dignitary came to Washington, they lay a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "wreath at the tomb. We had met the Queen"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "of England several times at the airport."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "As these were some of the duties I"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "performed as a young officer in the Navy"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "after carrying the twoar flag at the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "funeral of my late uncle, Rear Admiral"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Richard E. Bird, I was recommended for a"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "security clearance and was granted a top"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "secret clearance after a lengthy"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "six-month background study. B1 complete"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "uh 1957. After being transferred to the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "chief of naval information, Chinfo, I"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "worked in a security clearance section"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "before being indoctrinated into the"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "branch office of the Air Force called"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Project Blue Book. It was a joint"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "service office that is two Marines, two"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "army, two Navy, and three Air Force"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "officers. The work was routine, opening"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "incoming mail, sorting out what was"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "called actual sightings as opposed to"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "many fake UFO photos."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "We also acted as a public information"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "office, PIO, much like a public"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "relations office. Every publisher's"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "dream was to get the real lowdown on the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "UFO situation, which was suppressed by"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "the group that dictated national policy"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "on the UFO matter. In mid-March 1957, we"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "received an urgent message from the"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Alexandria Police Department. The"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "message indicated that two of their"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "onduty police officers had picked up an"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "alien who had landed some 14 miles south"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "of the Pentagon Boulevard."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "And the occupant was transported to the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Pentagon to meet with the under"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "secretary of defense and then shuttled"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "underground to meet with President"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Eisenhower and Vice President Richard"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Nixon."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "The meeting lasted for nearly an hour"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "and then the alien visitor was put on"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "VIP status and was shuttled back to the"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Pentagon where he spent the night in the"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "army reception office on the first floor"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "near concourse near the concourse. This"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "alien's name was Valiant Thor. Commander"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "James was on duty at the security"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "clearance and review for the branch"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "officer of Project Blue Book. He oversaw"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the meeting through official channels"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "and reported the landing and meeting of"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the space emissary as he was labeled by"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the department of defense to a governing"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "group of high military officials"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "including Secretary of Defense DF"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Foresttol and other scientific men of"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "which there were 12."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "They in turn made recommendations to the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "president and cabinet members the CIA,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "FBI, NSA and so on. The landing of"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "Valiant Thor was perhaps the first"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "documented landing of a human type alien"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "by military officials. He contacted an"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "individual in the Pentagon who was an"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "advocate of the UFO alien situation,"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Nancy Warren, in turn contacted a"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "minister who was also a private"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "investigator and theologian, a Dr. Frank"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "E. Stranges, who then met with this"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "individual. Dr. Stranges had been a"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "guest speaker at the National"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Evangelistic Center for 2 weeks."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Val Thor landed in Alexandria and met"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "with the president to discuss the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "world's problems and offer advice and"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "counsel on how to deal with and"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "eliminate them. He indicated to Mr."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Eisenhower that the world was in a"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "precarious situation and that if the"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "world continued to proceed on a war"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "footing, which Valor felt would be a"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "self-destruct mode, it would cause an"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "economic imbalance throughout the world."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Valor stayed on Earth until March 16th,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "1960"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "and then disembarked to his home planet"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Venus. He indicated that his race of"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "people lived and dwelled underground and"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "that many of the planets throughout the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "universe sustained life in this same"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "manner. He also mentioned the waves of"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "aliens who would land around the world"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "to help with the Earth's seemingly"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "uncsurmountable problems. He stated that"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "a group from a distant planetary system"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "would be coming to give aid and data to"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "help the Earth's progress. Valor spoke"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "of Christ's presence in the universe and"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "that it was heartwarming to see Christ's"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "advanced teachings continuing. This"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "visitation at the Pentagon marks perhaps"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "a new era in knowledge, wisdom, and"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "understanding"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "on our planet. Harley Andrew Bird. Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Few things here. One is this"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "referencing the original Griotta treaty"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "which we hear so much about which"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "happened in 1954."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "I know here it was said 1957."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Um, so perhaps that was after I guess 54"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "was with the uh grays or the zeta"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "reticulins or whatever it was and they"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "said this wasn't the first time that the"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "US government met with aliens, but they"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "caveed that with this was the first time"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "they met with humanlike aliens, which is"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": ">> Politicians understandably are loathed"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "to commit themselves on the subject. But"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "have any leading statesmen given their"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "opinions about you folks? Congressman"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Gerald Ford stated time and time again"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "that he would prefer open congressional"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "hearings rather than hearings behind"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "closed doors. But as a matter of point,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "the late Robert Kennedy made a statement"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "that not only does he believe in UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "but he also believed that they come from"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "other planets."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": ">> I see. Could I ask you this? Has any"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "military expert, for example, ever"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "commented on United States or"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "international involvement with EUOS? In"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "New York City at the Waldolf Histori"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Hotel, the late General Douglas"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "MacArthur made an outstanding statement"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "that almost tumbled the foundations of"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "the very press. And he stated, and I"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "quote, \"War on Earth is fast becoming"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "obsolete. It'll be replaced by war"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "between planets.\""}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> And again, this comes right after George"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "Damsky, after Dan Fry. This is in the"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "heart of the space brothers movement"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "where so many"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "witnesses"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "claimed to be some type of messenger"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "talking to these Venians or these tall"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "blondes or whatever they were. Not"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "always blonde as is as is the case here."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Um but yeah, really interesting. also"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "mentioning, you know, the 12 is a nice"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "round number if you're familiar with"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "Majestic 12 and and uh"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "um Secretary of Defense James Forestall."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Really interesting that he was named as"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "well. Now we get an introduction from"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Frank E. Stranges, PhD. Uh Frank"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Stranges was a I think a minister or"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "something some evangelical"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "evang evangel evangelist evangelical"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "uh minister and he was apparently"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "I don't know I mean it was a very"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "religious time so could that be could we"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "have hired some type of priest or pastor"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "to you know be the one to help"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "communicate with a being like this I"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "don't think that that's unheard of you"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "know even so far as the UFO crash at"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "Aztec. They apparently brought a pastor"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "to the crash site to help sort of uh"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "bless the bodies that were laying"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "around, which is a creepy fact in"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "itself. I'm curious to to know whether"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "this Harley let me check something up"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "here. If Harley was officially a member"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "of Blue Book. Um, so it says no. There"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "is no evidence that Harley Andrew Bird"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "was ever an official member, an"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "employee, or formal consultant of Blue"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Book. Uh but it says that Bird does show"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "up credibly um in terms of he was an"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "independent UFO researcher."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "So he I mean he's someone who was active"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "during the Blue Book era but yeah"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "there's nothing here that says he was a"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "Blue Book member or consultant more of"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "like a Blue Book researcher. He was,"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "this is a generally accepted claim that"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "he was in the Navy and that his"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "background pretty plausible that it"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "wasn't radar background in electronics."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "Okay, so already starting off not so"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "many green flags, but we won't let that"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "stop us here. We're going to skip the uh"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "intro here from Mr. Stranges. he does"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "seem to extrapolate many of these"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "sightings in the past or in the present"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "back then with um with Jesus and and God"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "and you know so I tend to hold those"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "type of discussions with a grain of salt"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "just because faith seems to be a really"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "big filter for this information and I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "trying to as much as I can absorb it un"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "in an unbiased fashion."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "Regardless if you know faith does play a"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "big part in this, I think it's important"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "to just remove yourself before uh before"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "diving in. But at the end here, it does"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "say, \"The following pages will reveal"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "much, at least to those who are capable"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "of discerning knowledge, wisdom, and"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "above all understanding.\" As you read"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "through the pages, you will find"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "yourself caught up in the story itself."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "Some of you will read with great delight"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "and desire. Others will read with an eye"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "to ridicule. However, as you read, you"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "must certainly agree that during the"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "past 60 years, we have come a very long"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "way in the related fields of science and"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "technology. As you continue to read,"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "please remember that any decision you"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "choose is entirely up to you. Strive to"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "maintain an open mind. The things that"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "we think we know, we do not know at all."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "While the things we do not know are"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "often times revealed to us surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "pure golden light, thus enlarging our"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "capability to believe."}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "This might well be the year that UFOs"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "will prove once and for all that we are"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "not alone in the expanding universe and"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "that we members of the human family"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "might conceivably learn that our family"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "ties are not restricted to this planet"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "Earth. Remember, you are never alone. To"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "those who have eyes to see and the ears"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "to hear, I say God bless you. To all"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "others, God help you. Dr. Frank"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "Stranges, 1991. Well, it's interesting"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "that in ' 91 he's like it's this year is"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "the year. I Everybody who's been in"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "eupfology long enough knows that that"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "claim sort of pops up every year."}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "But that's just a testament to show you"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "how hopeful this community really is."}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "Hello, Frank. How are you? That greeting"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "will forever be etched in memory. It"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "always brings me back to that cold day"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "in December 1959. A day which changed my"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "life forever, and one which I will"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "recall as if it were yesterday for the"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "rest of my life."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "That day began a journey which continues"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "and one which endures even to this"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "writing. The story began centuries ago"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "with the first reconnaissance"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "exploration voyage which confirmed that"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "there indeed was life on this third"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "planet from the sun."}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "There had been occasions which presented"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "a dilemma to both the observed as well"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "as the observer. These included several"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "pilots being beamed into the ship in"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "order to save their lives. This was a"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "far cry from the first incident of men"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "throwing rocks in an attempt to repel"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "the ship. It was during 1945 that Earth"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "was surrounded by a 100 ships in order"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "to protect the fragile atmosphere which"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "surrounds it. A chain atomic reaction"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "could easily have resulted because of"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "the separation of the elements of the"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "air. Earth could have been destroyed,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "thus creating many problems. A ripple"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "effect so to speak throughout the"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "universe."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "After reporting the observations of"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "various voyages, several recommendations"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "were made. The first was that an aerial"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "display be performed in order to provide"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "evidence of the physical existence of"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "life as it is known here on other"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "planets in the solar system."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "This was accomplished during the Truman"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "administration over the capital building"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "in Washington DC."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Newspapers reported the occurrence"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "complete with the details of the chase."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "What they didn't report was that the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "UFOs were not visible below the planes"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "which had been sent up. they were only"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "visible to those on the ground. The"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "second recommendation was for the"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "physical contact with world leaders"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "beginning with the United States. Okay."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "So here we are referencing the"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "Washington DC UFO flap of 1952 and"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "probably the subsequent sort of press"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "conference that was held to,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "you know, appease the the press and and"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "everybody else. There was a bit of a UFO"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "panic going on."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "We now go to March 16th, 1957 in"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "Alexandria, Virginia. One of the finest"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "leaders operating under the direction of"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "the central control and who had been"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "chosen to make the contact as well as"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "direct the project landed his craft and"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "was met by two police officers, weapons"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "drawn. A thought transference quickly"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "convinced them that he meant no harm,"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "and he was ushered into the backseat of"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "their patrol car. After crossing over"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "into Washington, DC, they were met by"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "the Secretary of Defense along with six"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "of his staff members."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Soon, police from every conceivable"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "district and agency had joined in, all"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "trying to claim their right to escort"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "him to President Dwight D. Eisenhower."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Through his own version of the power of"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "positive thinking, he was able to"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "dismiss them all and soon passed through"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "the security post, followed by an Air"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Force captain. Meanwhile, his presence"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "in the area had thrown everyone into a"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "dilemma. The introduction he held from"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "the high council worried them because"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "though not written in any earthly"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "language, their minds were given power"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "to properly translate the inscribed"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "message. Captain Gould, not his real"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "name, asked him to remain and after"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "downing two plain bourbons, muttered,"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "\"My god, why couldn't this have happened"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "on my day off?"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "you're peering into uh the mind of Dr."}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "Strange or I suppose it is Dr. Strange's"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "um way of writing and way of talking. He"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "is a bit of a comical communicator as"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "you see from a lot of his lectures."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "So here for the first time we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "valiant Thor with his writing tablet."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "Seems to just be a pad and paper."}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "Suddenly, the door opened and six armed"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "guards led Val to what appeared to be an"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "elevator. It went rapidly to the"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "bottommost level. Maximum security was"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "in place. After transferring to an"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "underground train, they sped toward the"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "White House. Six officials, six armed"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "guards, and three secret servicemen"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "escorted him into the office of"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "President Eisenhower."}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "So, at this point, I wonder if uh he"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "would have been briefed already. I"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "suppose he would have been. This would"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "have been postcreation"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "of Majestic 12, the famous Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "briefing where uh James Foresttoall and"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "or the General Twining memo where"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "they're sort of creating MJ12 and and"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "informing Eisenhower, sort of briefing"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "him as he becomes president and succeeds"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "uh Truman. And so he probably was"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "already aware of the alien presence that"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "we are communicating with. From behind"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "the desk, the president rose while the"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "Secret Servicemen remained nervous and"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "uneasy. As he extended his hand to shake"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "that of the president, the Secret"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "Servicemen drew their revolvers and"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "pointed them at Val. Following the nod"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "of the president, they reluctantly"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "lowered their guns. Standing in front of"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "the desk, the president said, \"Of"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "course, you know we have to suspend all"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "rules of protocol. I have a good feeling"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "toward you. Please, sir, what is your"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "name?\" He replied, \"Valiant,"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "where do you come from?\" \"I come from"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "the planet your Bible calls the morning"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "and the evening star.\" \"Venus?\" \"Yes,"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "sir.\""}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "\"Can you prove this?\" he asked. \"What do"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "you constitute as proof?\""}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "He quickly retorted. I don't know. Will"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "you come with me to my ship?"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "He answered with a quizzical look and"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "said, \"My friend, I cannot come and go"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "as I please. There are others to be"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "considered. There are committees to be"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "consulted and security measures to be"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "adeared to. Please spend some time with"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "us here. Let's get better acquainted."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "Learn more about one another.\""}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "Here's some more uh pictures here. Val"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "and friends at Backyard Meeting in"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Hybridge, New Jersey."}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "close-up view of his writing tablet."}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "And we continue. And perhaps soon, real"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "soon, we shall see."}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "At that moment, another gentleman rushed"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "into the room. It turned out to be Vice"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "President Richard Nixon. He appeared to"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "Val to be very sharp, quick-witted, with"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "fixed eyes and amazing aptitude toward"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "speed and proficiency."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "My name is Valiant,"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "he said as the vice president thrusts"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "his hand without hesitation. You've"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "certainly caused a stir."}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "You have certainly caused a stir. It's"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "my best Nixon impression uh for an out"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "oftowner. The vice president smiled as"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "he continued. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "we are not totally convinced of anything"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "just yet, but suffice to say, we are"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "checking and double-checking everything"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "you say and do. When Sergeant Young from"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Alexandria radioed in and stated that"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "you had just landed in a flying saucer,"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "we thought, he continued, Sergeant Young"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "had flipped. Say, were you in on that"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "UFO flap over Washington? You certainly"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "had us all in a dither if you were."}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "after assuring them that this planet had"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "been under close scrutiny for hundreds"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "of years before the 1945 bomb blast. And"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "with his special letter still in the"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "slightly quivering hand of the"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "president, he was requested to follow"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "the Secret Service back the way they'd"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "come to the Pentagon and into the"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "beautifully furnished apartment where he"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "would spend the next 3 years."}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "Fortunately, he was prepared for such a"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "lengthy visit and kept in constant"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "communication with the starship."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "There were many occasions during which"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "he teleported himself in and out of"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "those quarters, often exercising trans"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "imagery to cause the security guards to"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "visualize his face on a non-existent ID"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "badge."}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "Photos taken."}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "Soon after his arrival, together with"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "three members of his crew, he joined a"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "convention in the backyard of a home of"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "Mr. Howard Manger in Hybridge, New"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Jersey. The month was April 1957. A"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "certain group of individuals who were"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "interested in UFOs were meeting that"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "day. Val and his crew members, Dawn,"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "Jill, and Tanya"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "had changed into the same type of"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "clothing worn by their Earth friends."}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "The meeting was very interesting, and"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "these people were on the right track. He"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "was dismayed to learn that the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "undignified manner in which these people"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "were treated by the press. Nevertheless,"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "these people were pursuing their beliefs"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "and this was good. The curious young"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "photographer, August C. Roberts, snapped"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "several pictures, thinking he was doing"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "so without Val's knowledge. The"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "photographer seemed to be greatly"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "troubled when he attempted to talk to"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "him. Yet it was those very photographs"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "which were to bring me together with"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "this unusual man on that cold December"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "day. Holding the message from the high"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "council in his hand, the president"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "stated that Val's offer to help the"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "human family would upset the economy of"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "the United States and could plunge her"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "into the abyss of chaos. In brief, he"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "politely told Val that the people of"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "this planet were not ready to cope with"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "such conditions, as would come into"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "existence if recommendations of this"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "unearly visitor were put into action."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "Nevertheless, he was invited to assist a"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "number of scientists who were out"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "working on medical projects directly"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "associated with the space sciences."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "His allotted time to acquaint the"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "leaders of the United States with his"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "suggestions was limited to three years."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "And during this time, he refused to"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "advise them regarding a certain bomb in"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "the sky, which we now know as the Star"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "Wars system."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "Oh, this is interesting. Because this is"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "written in 1991, I suppose he's"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "referring to"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "uh Ronald Reagan's Star Wars initiative."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "these directed energy weapons that are"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "in space that are there to essentially"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "shoot down nukes should they, you know,"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "be intercontinental."}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "Very interesting indeed. So, this guy,"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "Valiant Thor, wasn't alone. He was here"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "with like more people from his ship. A"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "lady named Tanya and who's the other"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "guy? Bill or whatever. What's his name?"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "This is at Howard Howard Manganger's"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "house, which is interesting."}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "Don, Jill, and Tanya. So, two women, two"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "men. Don and Jill. Would you look at"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "that? And Tanya. I'm sure this they've"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "got, you know, pretty normal names. And"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "you got Valiant."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "It's an interesting one. The Miracle"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "Garment. In his apartment. He was able"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "to maintain communications with his ship"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "and was kept informed of the growing"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "world tensions. His uniform underwent"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "rigid tests. At the time, by today's"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "standards, they would now be obsolete."}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "They attempted to penetrate the material"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "with a diamond drill bit, but it snapped"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "under pressure. Acid rolled off the"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "uniform and burned a hole in the floor."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "They fired a high velocity rifle at the"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "uniform, but it failed to pierce it. The"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "report to the president read, \"Physical"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "appearance, soft and gold, lustrous."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "Fabric, unknown. Weight 6 oz total,"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "including boots. Cut, close fitting like"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "a tunic. No cuffs, no pockets, buttons,"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "zippers, clips, or hooks. The RXT2 tests"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "were indestructible. Finally, a"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "brighteyed colonel escorted him to a"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "place where the final test would be"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "performed. Val looked at the laser"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "instrument. Val looked at the laser"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "instrument amusingly. Upon command, the"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "laser aimed a fine line of intense light"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "amplification by stimulated emission of"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "radiation. The colonel began his"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "discourse that this device contained a"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "crystal synthetic ruby in which atoms,"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "when stimulated by focused light waves,"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "amplify and concentrate these waves,"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "then emit the beam. As the colonel"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "continued to speak, his smile gave way"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "to utter dismay."}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "the ray being totally ineffective"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "against the garment."}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "He babbled long after the laser had been"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "turned off. He reiterated how powerful"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "the US had become since the splitting of"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "the atom. He gave Val a lesson in atomic"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "fusion. He went on to state that when a"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "chain reaction of nuclear fish is set"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "off by a neutron bombardment in the"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "atoms or a charge of plutonium or"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "uranium isotope with an atomic weight of"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "235, an immense quantity of energy is"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "suddenly released. The good colonel"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "finally talked himself out and Val was"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "conducted back to his quarters along"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "with his uniform."}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "This is interesting because uh the"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "uniform obviously comes up time and time"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "again. in a silver garment, silver,"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "gold, what have you. Whether it's from"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "the contact from Sheree that we covered"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "or I mean so many other contact cases"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "have this garment and it seems to be"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "sort of form fitting, no wrinkles, no"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "zippers."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "And I think there was one document we"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "had read through in"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "I think it was the book by uh Nick"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "Redern"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "which had stated that there was some"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "type of memory attached to these things"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "like when you wore the garment it would"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "like fill your head with all the"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "knowledge like it was alive much like"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "the ships."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "Interesting. 1959 was fast drawing to a"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "close. Chiefs of state were in a"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "constant turmoil and confusion was the"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "rule of the day. Indecision caused delay"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "after delay. Economists and industrial"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "giants conferred with politicians and"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "military heads daily. The government"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "leaders could not reconcile Val's being"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "in a position to force their hand if he"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "so desired. Several scientists attempted"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "to learn the secrets of interstellar"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "travel without success. Now, another"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "interesting thing here is"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "Eisenhower's reluctance to want to"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "disclose"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "anything to the people. And that might"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "not just be Eisenhower's decision. It"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "might be the decision of the Majestic"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "12, but there was another document we"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "had read recently which came up on I"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "think Reddit that had mentioned that"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "catastrophic disclosure couldn't happen."}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "Not because people would panic,"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "but because it had to do with the idea"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "of communism,"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "that the leaders of the free world were"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "more concerned"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "with"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "the this idea that communism"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "and true communism, not not the"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "dictatorship kind, but the one where"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "everyone benefits, would be the answer"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "that we seek to world peace."}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "and that we stop fighting for resources"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "and fighting for money. And this idea"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "obviously"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "was uh unacceptable by all the"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "capitalist leaders that inhabited the"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "United States government. So they could"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "not have this happen. And again, not"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "because we were afraid of aliens, but"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "because they were afraid of losing"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "money, which to me sounds extremely"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "plausible."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "Christmas week was now upon us. I had"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "been busily presenting a series of"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "scientific lectures and speaking at a"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "number of churches in Washington DC"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "earlier that month. I had returned from"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "Cuba where I met personally with Fidel"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "Castro. Okay, bit of a flex here. Little"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "name dropping. Unbeknownst to me, Val"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "working with Nancy Warren. She was one"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "of the only few since his arrival at the"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "Pentagon in whom he was able to discern"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "an honest and open heart and who loved"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "Almighty God, her country, and her"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "fellow man formulated a plan whereby I"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "would be contacted. So, it was Nancy"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "Warren um the god-fearing lady who"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "probably I guess suggested that Doctor"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "Strangers be consulted in this matter."}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "So, inside the Pentagon, many Earth"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "people live one life openly, while in"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "their hearts and minds, they live quite"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "another. Double-mindedness seemed to be"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "a way of life in the Pentagon building"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "that served as the busy nerve center of"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "our nation."}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "Val once remarked to me that he had"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "never witnessed in one central location"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "such concentrated confusion."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "Nancy,"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "and again it's Nancy in quotations,"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "attended the lecture/service"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "which I conducted at the National"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "Evangelistic Center pastored by Dr. John"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "Mirs in Washington DC following the"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "conclusion of my talk. She approached"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "the platform and asked to speak to me."}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "Strangely enough, the photographer in"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "New Jersey had given Val's photographs"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "to me and I'd been displaying them at my"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "lectures ever since. I had no personal"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "knowledge of them other than what I'd"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "been told by the photographer. When she"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "was unable to grab my attention while I"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "was signing copies of my book,"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "Saucerama,"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "she showed her Pentagon ID and that got"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "my attention quickly to say the least."}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "Okay, pause. This guy wrote books about"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "UFOs prior."}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "He wrote a book called Saucerama."}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "prior"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "and then was contacted by the Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "I don't know. Maybe, you know what?"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "Nowadays, that would probably not fly"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "because they're just going to be like,"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "\"Oh, it's a UFO fanatic dude. He's just"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "a big fan of UFOs. We can't take him"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "seriously.\" Whereas back then,"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "everything was fresh. This was all"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "fresh. And finding people who believed"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "in this stuff might have been uh might"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "have acted as some type of asset for the"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "US government rather than a deterrent."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "So interesting."}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "Or he's full of crap. Who knows, right?"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "Alas, we continue. We borrowed the"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "pastor's study, and she asked me if I"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "would like to meet the man in the"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "photographs personally. Of course, I"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "answered her with a resounding yes. She"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "then asked if I could follow"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "instructions to the letter, to which I"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "replied that I could. She told me to"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "meet her at the curb in front of my"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "hotel at 8:00 a.m. the next morning."}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "Nancy arrived precisely on time and thus"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "began the journey which at times would"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "seem unreal, but which later would prove"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "beyond doubt that there is truly life in"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "God's universe. Those of you familiar"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "with the Pentagon know that the normal"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "traffic flow approaching to uh"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "approaching it is to the right. We drove"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "to the left. I knew then that something"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "strange was going on. We had to stand in"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "line to pass by a security guard. First"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "one, then the second. Visualized an"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "identification badge on my lapel. This"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "utterly amazed me, and I felt that at"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "any minute I would be picked up,"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "handcuffed, and thrown into a jail"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "somewhere."}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "This, of course, was only my imagination"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "and anticipation of what was about to"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "take place. Nancy left me standing in"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "front of a door which contained no"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "markings. As the door opened, I walked"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "in and stood on the threshold. My stocky"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "form shifted from one foot to the other"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "as I cleared my throat."}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "The three men in the room were"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "completely unaware of my presence and"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "ignored me. I was puzzled to say the"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "least."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "Later I would find out that valiant Thor"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "or Val had clouded their minds and"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "rendered them oblivious to the entire"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "session. They continued with their work."}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "The stranger appears."}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "Being a minister of the gospel of Jesus"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "Christ as well as a student of the Bible"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "for many years, coupled with my"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "experience as a special investigator, I"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "felt as though my senses were"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "functioning properly and that I knew"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "exactly what I was about to do. I was on"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "my guard for fakes and frauds. In walked"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "a man about 6 feet tall, perhaps 185"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "lbs, brown wavy hair, brown eyes. His"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "complexion appeared normal and slightly"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "tanned. As I approached him and he"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "looked at me,"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "it was as though he looked straight"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "through me"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "with a warm smile and extending his"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "hand, he greeted me by name. Hello,"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "Frank. How are you?"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "His genuiness astonished me, but quickly"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "I understood. As I gripped his hand, I"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "was somewhat surprised to feel the soft"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "texture of his skin, like that of a"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "baby, but with the strength of a man"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "that silently testified to his power and"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "intensity."}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "His voice was very strong and mellow. It"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "was filled with purpose and character. I"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "again looked around the room to see"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "whether the other men would say or do"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "anything. They were still working, as if"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "I weren't there."}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "I noticed that he was wearing the same"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "type of clothing as I. When I asked if"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "he possessed any other clothing, he said"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "that he had given several officials a"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "garment so that they could run tests on"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "it. He then proceeded to a closet and"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "produced a one-piece suit that glittered"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "as the sun, which streamed in through"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "the window, hit the fabric. I thought"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "that it looked like liquid sunshine. I"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "asked him about the material from which"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "it was made. he answered. It is made of"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "a material not of this earth."}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "The general appearance of this suit was"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "all one piece, even down to the boots."}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "It contained no buttons, zippers, or"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "snaps. I asked him how it held together."}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "He demonstrated by holding the front"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "together and passing his hand over it as"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "if to smooth it out. I could not even"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "locate the opening. It was held together"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "by an invisible force to help mankind."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "He told me that this purpose in coming"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "was to help mankind return to the Lord."}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "He spoke in positive terms, always with"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "a smile on his face. He said that the"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "man was further away from He said that"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "man was further away from God than ever"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "before, but there was still a good"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "chance if a man looks in the right"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "place. He told me he had been here"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "nearly 3 years and would depart in just"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "a few months,"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "claiming that he would not use force to"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "speak with men in authority in America."}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "He was happy to consult with them at"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "their invitation."}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "He further stated that thus far only a"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "few men in Washington knew of his"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "existence in the Pentagon and few"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "leaders had availed themselves of his"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "advice during these past 3 years. He"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "felt there was still so much to do and"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "his time of his departure was getting"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "near."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "He told me that Jesus Christ would not"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "force men to be saved from their"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "mistakes even though he had already made"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "a way for mankind to be redeemed through"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "his shed blood."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "Just going to pause it here for a"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "second. Um, now a lot of you might tune"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "out at this point"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "in my head here mentioning this, you"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "know, I would say years ago if you were"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "to mention to me, oh, and then he"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "started talking about Jesus, I would I'd"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "be out. I'd be like, all right, that's"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "probably BS then. He's probably just"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "some minister, you know, trying to push"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "forward a narrative."}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "But there are a few things that come to"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "mind here. One,"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "could Jesus"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "in this entity's eyes"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "be during that time"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "a sufficient means to deliver the"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "message of peace? Did he use the name"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "Jesus Christ strategically is what I'm"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "saying. Knowing that in majority the"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "people of the United States were indeed"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "Christian,"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "did they also believe in Jesus Christ or"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "is this all made up? Or did Dr. strange"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "is add in the Jesus part"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "like this might have happened and then"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "he added it in"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "um because maybe he felt there wasn't"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "any inclusion of the Lord's name in this"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "meeting and he just couldn't cope with"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "that. You know, these are all"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "unprovable"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "um unverifiable claims, but a lot of"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "interesting lenses through which we can"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "view, you know, the text here."}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "When I asked him where he was from, he"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "replied, I am from the planet that is"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "called Venus. I asked him how many"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "visitors from Venus were presently on"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "Earth and he said, \"There are presently"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "77 of us walking among you in the United"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "States. We are constantly coming and"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "going.\" During the next 30 minutes, he"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "told me things about myself that even I"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "did not know. Later, I was able to"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "verify them with my parents and"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "grandparents. He gave me information"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "regarding the gravitational pull of"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "Venus in comparison to Earth. I was"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "informed that the abdominal muscles hold"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "flesh firm against the mild"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "gravitational pull which is 320ths less"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "than that of Earth. Gave me information"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "which would be revealed to others over a"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "period of time."}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "No fingerprints. The only thing he said"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "that troubled me was his use of the"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "expression when the time is right. In"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "response to my question as to whether or"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "not I would see him again. His lack of"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "fingerprints intrigued me as I had been"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "involved as a private investigator for"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "quite some time, even working at times"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "on loan to some of the government"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "agencies."}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "I had learned that the science of"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "fingerprints with the impression of the"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "lines and the walls and the of the inner"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "surface of the last joint of each finger"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "on the human hand. He told me that all"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "earth's people were thus marked since"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "the fall of Adam in the Garden of Eden"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "during the very dawn of civilization as"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "we know it today. He began to prepare me"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "for the road which lie ahead. It would"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "not be an easy one. There would be"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "adversities, organized attempts to both"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "discourage and discredit me, but the"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "reward have proved to outweigh these"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "trials which continue even to this day."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "So that uh strikes me as interesting as"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "well because even Dan Fry in the White"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "Sands incident and the following book"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "mentions that as well. I think Adamsky"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "does too where the beings are like"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "they're going to come. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "try and come for you. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "ridicule you. So get ready for that."}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "Like some type of warning. Even Herbert"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "Shurmer, I believe, was also told the"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "same thing by the beings. Like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "don't go talking about us. they're going"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "to think you're crazy type deal. It is"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "interesting that uh these beings care"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "about our"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "social credit. I mean that's just kind"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "of strange."}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "We discussed the merits of Jesus Christ,"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "how he gave his life freely so that the"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "men could enjoy the benefits of eternal"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "life. I questioned him about the Bible"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "on Venus and he assured me that a"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "personal unbroken fellowship with the"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "author did not necessitate the printing"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "of a book. He found it amusing that many"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "theologians attempt to discredit both"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "Jesus Christ and the Bible. The very God"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "many have said is dead continues to"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "lavish them with all good things."}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "Perhaps they will in time permit the"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "spark of divine light to again"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "illuminate their troubled hearts. seems"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "a little preachy to me."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "In answer to my question of what he"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "thought of Jesus Christ, he said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "know that Jesus is the alpha and omega"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "of yours and everyone else's faith. He"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "today has assumed his rightful position"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "as the ruler of the universe and is"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "preparing a place and a time for all who"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "are called by his name to ascend far"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "above the clouds to where his power and"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "authority shall never again be"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "disputed.\" Lovely. How lovely."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "I believe that Jesus Christ is the"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "wonder of wonders and changes not. No,"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "not forever and forever. As he spoke"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "these words, my own heart burned within"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "me and tears filled my eyes. He turned"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "to the window and said, \"Frank, it will"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "not be long. Contend for the faith, and"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "you will never miss the mark.\""}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "I asked him if there was life on other"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "planets."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "Life on other planets?"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "His reply was, \"There is life on many"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "other planets of which people on Earth"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "know nothing. There are more solar"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "systems for which man has not even given"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "God credit. There are many beings that"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "have never transgressed the perfect laws"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "of God. Man does not possess the right"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "to condemn the whole of God's creation"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "because he himself has broken the"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "perfect laws of God through"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "disobedience.\""}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "I asked him what he would do if the"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "military prevented him from leaving on"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "the appointed day. He simply stated,"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "\"Frank, do you remember one day after"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "Jesus arose from the dead? He had gone"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "in search of several of his followers."}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "They closed themselves in a locked room,"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "and suddenly they saw Jesus standing in"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "the very midst of them.\" He then smiled"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "and looked at me as if to to imply,"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "\"Need I say more?\" As I turned to leave"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "the room, he said simply, \"Please keep"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "your faith and leave the same way that"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "you came in. Continue to seek the first"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "kingdom of God and his righteousness,"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "and all other things will in time be"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "added to you and yours. Goodbye for now,"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "and God bless you and keep you always.\""}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "I left that meeting astounded, greatly"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "encouraged, and yet with a heavy heart,"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "not knowing what the future would hold."}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "I began to wonder who would believe me"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "if I ever told of this strange encounter"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "with a man from another planet. I first"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "considered not repeating this"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "extraordinary story, but the more I"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "thought about it, the more I prayed"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "about it, the more I felt that it would"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "bring a great blessing to those who"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "would hear and read it."}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "This interplanetary traveler possessed a"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "wealth of knowledge, not only about"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "science and God, but also about me. He"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "stated that my book Saucerama could not"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "have been written without heavenly"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "guidance."}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "What an endorsement. Getting a quote"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "from an alien."}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "Val's instructions were to leave"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "Washington DC no later than March 16,"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "1960. That meant that there were less"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "than three months during which he could"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "confer with scientists, politicians,"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "military men and the like."}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "All missed his point entirely."}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "They were all filled with self- ambition"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "and cared little for the pressing needs"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "of mankind. His efforts to bring about"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "an end to the sickness and disease that"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "plague this planet were met with"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "pathetic refusal."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "He was told over and over that his"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "presence and his ideas were a threat to"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "the political and economic structure."}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "Certain religious leaders were also"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "fearsful of losing grip on the people in"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "the event that his presence was admitted"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "on an official level. It was very"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "disheartening that the administration"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "failed to lay hold of such information"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "that would change the course of human"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "activities for the good because of"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "economic reasons."}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "Security regulations were very tight,"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "but despite the fact that they knew they"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "would come and go as they pleased, he"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "delighted in playing their game. Val had"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "vowed not to use force, and so another"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "course of action would be necessary if"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "the information which he had to relate"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "were to be disseminated. This is the"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "reason why he contacted men of godly"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "character and strength around the world."}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "Many are presently working in close"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "contact with Val and other members of"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "his crew. Okay, interesting. Now this is"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "really interesting because"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "you know the mentioning of God I mean"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "Doctor Strange is here even admits that"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "Val knew more about him than he himself"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "did and had to verify those claims with"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "his parents and grandparents."}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "Meaning Val would also know that this"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "guy is a an avid follower of Christ."}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "And if Val is getting desperate to"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "disseminate his message to mankind,"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "he thinks that this might be a good"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "strategy by calling in men of God and"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "appealing to their perhaps God-fearing"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "nature"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "and sort of scioping them using their"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "own belief system in order to"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "sort of, you know, keep"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "perpetuating this uh this this this"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "longing for peace."}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "I would say that is plausible because we"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "don't hear"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "I mean we don't really hear much about"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "the God talk outside of strangers. We"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "don't hear much talk outside of"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "strangers at all. But um maybe that's"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "just again Val just appealing to uh his"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "faith. That's what I make of this"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "meeting with president. His last meeting"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "with the president did not reap any"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "lasting results. He wanted to let the"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "world know of Val's proposed plan, but"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "the Secretary of Defense, the head of"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "Central Intelligence Agency, and the"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "military chiefs of staff were opposed to"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "his suggestion."}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "The president attempted to affect a"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "joint meeting before the General"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "Assembly of the United Nations, but this"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "plan too was rejected. He was informed"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "that the UN would receive a special"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "press release in the form of a"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "memorandum to the security general no"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "later than February 766."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "These leaders of the US government"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "argued long into the night, fearing that"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "if the people of this nation learned of"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "the plan Va was offering,"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "they might choose to follow him instead"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "of them."}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "When a man feels that his personal uh"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "peace and tranquility may be threatened,"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "the human reaction is always that of"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "swift self-preservation."}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "At one point, the vice president"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "insisted that the pressure boys allow"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "the president to make the choice. He was"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "vetoed without even a chance to complete"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "his statements. So, as you can see here,"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "even the president's not in charge. CIA"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "secret files."}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "World conditions were not growing any"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "better. Much international pressure was"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "being brought to bear upon the"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "administration. They fought diligently"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "and forced rigid regulations with stiff"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "penalties for revealing Val's presence."}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "Even a major newscaster who"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "inadvertently learned of his visit"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "through one of his paid informants was"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "silenced by none other than the Central"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "Intelligence Agency, which has"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "consistently disclaimed all knowledge"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "concerning UFOs. Meanwhile, they"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "maintain secret files that could"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "actually prove the existence of"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "intelligent life in the universe beyond"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "all doubt."}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "You don't say."}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "The morning of March 15, 1960 saw Val"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "meeting with Nancy Warren, in quotes,"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "who would continue to work inside the"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "Pentagon and be one of his contacts in"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "the Washington DC area. She would"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "continue communication with others who"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "would become part of his Earth contacts."}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "There are still to this day many"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "adversaries to human freedom. These"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "parasites have embedded themselves in"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "all phases of human society and will"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "never be exposed except by"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "extraterrestrial intervention. There are"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "confused individuals who have perfected"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "a saucer type craft. Some of these are"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "the result of an attempt by some to"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "institute a master race. Remnants of"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "this group still exist. These craft"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "which they designed are still seen from"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "time to time in the areas of South"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "America"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "where some of those involved in the"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "original plans still reside. Is he"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "referring to Nazis here?"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "Cuz that's an interesting take as well."}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "These should not be confused with the"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "spacecraft originating from other worlds"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "or those coming from the interior of"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "this planet. Nor should the occupants of"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "the crafts originating from other worlds"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "be confused with those evil messengers"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "who do not originate from Earth but were"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "cast into it after the first war ever"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "recorded. They are in league with"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "earthly lowgrades who have condemned"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "themselves because of their own choices."}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "Okay, interesting take here. talking"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "about different types of"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "saucer pilots."}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "The spaceman departs. On March 16, Val"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "dematerialized and departed from this"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "phase of his earthly mission. His next"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "stop was the outskirts of Alexandria,"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "Virginia, where his ship and his crew"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "awaited his arrival. Hidden by a wooded"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "area, it was no problem for him to"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "reassemble the atoms of his body inside"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "his ship. As his craft rose slowly, a"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "number of people stopped and pointed"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "excitedly in his direction. Others stood"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "motionless, transfixed by the sight"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "which they beheld."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "He felt such a tremendous feeling of"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "love for all of them. There was no panic"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "in them, just curiosity, a strong desire"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "to know more. Then the USAF jets were"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "scrambled and with the force field now"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "in full use, the planes darted past the"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "ship, unable to see them now. Even"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "ground radar lost them on their"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "equipment. Confusion once again reigned."}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "On the way back to Victor 1, he"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "meditated on his home planet. the low,"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "heavy, colorful clouds, the even"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "temperatures, the perfectly diffused"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "sunlight that made shadows almost"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "non-existent, the lushness of the rich"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "green grass surrounding his home. He was"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "informed of several Earth people with"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "whom he would maintain contact for a"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "long time into the future. Strangely"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "enough, those who knew of his presence,"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "yet who claimed disbelief were those who"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "feared the most. Others figured they"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "should have been the ones contacted and"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "not those who were. Upon returning to"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "his home planet, he advised the Council"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "of Central"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "of the results of his Earth visit,"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "including the failure of the leaders of"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "the United States to take him up on his"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "offer of advice and assistance to the"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "human family. He was given the following"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "instructions. One,"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "to mingle with and become as Earth"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "people. Two, to work and labor in Earth"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "enterprises. Three, to help those who"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "encounter possible threat or danger"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "while striving for world peace. Four, to"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "give them advice and guidance. Five, to"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "entrust with superior knowledge those"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "who have proven themselves. And six,"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "divulge the essence of their mission to"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "the collective national leaders of Earth"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "only when the time is right."}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "As of this writing, he continues with"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "his missions at the same time assisting"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "in preventing our civilization from"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "being cause of orbital chaos by the"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "destruction of our planet."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "Now, chapter 2 begins. Uh, it says the"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "meetings begin."}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "So this is um"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "yeah this is I guess after"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "the valiant Thor departure and what goes"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "on afterwards. Very very interesting."}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "Again uh conviction is super low on this"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "one by the way. Definitely not sold on"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "any of this."}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "I do find it incredibly enticing and"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "tantalizing"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "that we have these photos. There are"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "many photos of this person and uh you"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "know not your typical"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "tall blonde,"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "but uh seems like a good-looking lad"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "nonetheless. Seems like yeah, just"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "interesting that we have potential"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "photos. There a lot more than I thought"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "there would be. There's quite a few of"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "these photos."}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "And we have here even Val, Dawn, Jill,"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "and Tanya or Tanya."}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "And these are the other Venians if you"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "will. I would love to speak to someone"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "who is at this convention,"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "this small gathering. As you can see"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "here,"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "seem to be other people present. If this"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "is your grandfather or grandmother or"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "relative or if it's you, please reach"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "out. Let me know. What do you know about"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "Val Thor and what do you think about"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "Valiant Thor so far?"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "Not sure if we're going to cover any"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "more of it. Really depends on the"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "audience here. If you guys want to see"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "me cover it, uh, you know, keep leaving"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "likes on this video and comment below"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "and let me know. will be very vocal and"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "you know if this um this stands out and"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "you guys want to continue this or do you"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "feel like you know case closed uh we"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "believe and we don't believe him? What's"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "your conviction level? I'm at about 30%"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "max maybe 15% minimum somewhere around"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "there."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "I would love for that number to be"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "higher. Uh, so if you have any other"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "information pertaining to this"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "visitation or any other connections that"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "you may have made that I may have"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "missed, please let me know. 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And of course, I"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "wondered if I would actually see the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "black dot. [music] Um, but at the same"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "time, I thought perhaps I was just"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "crazy. But [music] then I see the black"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "dot in the distance just above the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "trees. And I see this black dot getting"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "closer and closer just the same way I'd"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "seen it in my quote unquote vision. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "and I'm watching this thing approach"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "slowly as it gets closer, maybe 100 ft"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "away, directly above the trees. [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Um, I notice that it's a black disc and"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "it is rotating slowly and consistently."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "And I can tell that it's a disc because"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "as it's rotating, I can see which side"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "is the skinny side or thinner side and"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "which side is the wider side. [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Um, and its rotation is not just along"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "one axis. Uh, it is rotating uh as I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "doing a barrel roll and also a thumb"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "assault, so to speak. Um, and so it's"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "it's rotating in both the horizontal and"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "vertical axis steadily, and I see it"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "land on the building that's across the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "street from my house. And I watch it"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "there for a while, and then [music] it"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "takes off slowly and kind of just hovers"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "up at an almost vertical, but not quite"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "vertical angle. and I watch it continue"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "uh going upwards until it eventually"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "disappears."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "another episode of Debrief. My name is"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Chris Ramsey and today we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "taking yet another look at this supposed"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "leak or whistleblower that came forward"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "on 4chan recently. We covered [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "last week we covered his part one his or"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "her I assume it's a he. I don't know why"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "but part one where the original poster"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "talked about meeting this NH as he"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "referred to it as which is a nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "entity I suppose and was escorted in"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "some underground bunker in some foreign"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "European country to meet blindfolded"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "meet with this NH. Uh the NH then gave"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "it gave this person the ability to see"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "in the dark while it was blindfolded. A"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "whole really crazy thing. talked about,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "you know, quantum fields of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "consciousness and sort of looming"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "doomsday prediction I've heard in a"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "while, which is that there is this"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "system, the system that we often talk"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "about uh that is protecting the earth"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "and essentially whatever's running that"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "system is running out of resources to"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "self perpetuate its own existence or uh"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "just sort of self- sustain. And so it's"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "shutting down. And in the process of"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "shutting down everything else that is"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "presently on, in or around the Earth,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "all these other entities, some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "malevolent are ready to sort of strike,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "I suppose. And this all culminates to"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "roughly around the year 2027, I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "guessing. So, again, just uh a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "probably just madeup, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "fear-mongering. I'll I'll say that, but"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "I'd be remissed if I didn't at least"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "have a gander at it and let my highly"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "intelligent, skeptical yet open-minded"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "audience decide for themselves. And"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "that's what we're doing here. And that's"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "what I'm proud to say we do pretty much"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "every single week is practice that"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "suspension of disbelief, but also, you"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "know, don't be so open-minded that our"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "brain falls out. Or as Art Bell put it,"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "don't be so close-minded that whatever"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "gray matter would enter, you know, can't"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "find its way in. Don't not a direct"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "quote, but you get it. Uh, before we get"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "into this, folks, I do want to say quick"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "word from our sponsors. All right, quick"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "personal note. I don't really do this"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "normally, but I've been using Harry's"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "for a while now, and I'm genuinely"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "obsessed with this razor. 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So, our amazing"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "researchers over at Area 52 Discord"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "uh have put together uh have have"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "tediously tidied up the cesspool that is"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "4chan and have uh pretty much put"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "together these conversations uh in the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "form of questions and answering. If"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "you've ever surfed 4chan, which I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "recommend you do, it's it's it's got a"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "dark webbby feeling. Very icky feeling"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "when you get out of there. You know what"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "I mean? Anyways, these guys bravely"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "delved into this sketchy little website"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "and put together the sort of cues and"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "paired them with the A's and then"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "sometimes they're just standalone posts"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "uh much like the one we're going to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "start with here. Case 7829."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "It begins as such."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "The post I made yesterday seems to have"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "created a lot of hostility towards me."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "I'm here to help and there are purposes"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "behind statements I've made. In time,"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "you will find yourself coming back and"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "validating newly released documents,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "statements, and leaks. Also, English is"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "no longer my primary language."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Very strange. Who loses a primary"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "language? Is this another"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "larer leaker?"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Secondly,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "sounding a lot like the original 4chan"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "poster and sort of like you'll just"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "remember you'll come back to this. That"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "sentence that was uttered sort of near"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the end of that original 4chan leak"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "had some"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "sort of gravitas to it. You know, we"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "read that for the first time and we were"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, it's true. We are"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "coming back to this post.\" Saying it at"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the top of the post doesn't have the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "same effect. It's kind of wearing off on"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "me. First of all, I want to make very"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "clear the EU have their own NH"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "investigative body. I am a member of a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "reverse engineering task force. The sole"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "purpose of my department is to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "re-energize quote unquote technology"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "we've unearthed across Europe. The"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Moscow breakthrough solved fuel errors"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "and enabled us to rebuild a few"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "entities. However, piloting the entities"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "were problematic as time induced wear"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "led to partially unsealed components."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Whoa. They're referring to the crafts as"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "entities. That"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "I'm on board with. No pun intended. But"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "that is remarkable because we do hear a"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "lot of stories about the craft having"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "some of the same similar"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "structure I guess or in how in how they"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "behave. Um even the suits that they wear"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "according to you know another read"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "through we did where these suits were"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "alive and people described the crafts as"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "being alive and these beings and so"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "that's really interesting. Secondly,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Moscow. Hello 115 folks. I was recruited"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "into Aether under Atlas to explore the"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "autonomous kinetic potential of said"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "craft. Initially I started by deploying"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "a jigstrabased shortest path algorithm"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "with dynamic edge weight recalibration"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "gyroscope bound if you were wondering"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "which worked fine until we realized the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "craft in testing did not fit the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "predicted movement pattern. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "undergoing its own very slight course"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "correction to avoid the objects in the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "horistic path. A few days later, I was"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "locked off the project temporarily. The"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "materials engineer responsible for the"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "integration of our engineered components"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "died of a radiation overdose. It turned"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "out during the act of course correction,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the entity was emitting radiation. It"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "was the first device we saw of the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "quantum cost against our technological"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "cost."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Very intriguing. Again, sounding more"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "and more like some type of AI system,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "especially with the the micro course"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "correction."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Since then, we've come to accept these"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "entities are not simple passive"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "containers. Containers. Here we go. They"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "respond to a degree of environment"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "interference and have the ability to"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "observe. It was almost as if the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "radiation wasn't propulsionbased."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "but the byproduct of what we can only"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "describe as a quantum spatial decisionm."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "They're called cse now meaning"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "consciousness spatial entities. I post"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "not to provoke but to inform and prepare"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "you. Please ask me questions. Wow."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Folks, if you've never seen the movie"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "The Abyss by James Cameron, it is a wild"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "ride because"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "I mean you can find so many tangents and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "correlations. once you watch that movie"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "with some of the past readroughs that"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "we've had here and I urge you to check"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "it out. We actually watched it on movie"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "nights not too long ago on the Discord,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "but I'd be happy to, you know, check it"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "out with all of you once again. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "there might be might be a bit of a"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "readrough to do on that movie"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "specifically eventually. Let me know if"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "that's something you'd be interested in."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "We continue also a bit of the history of"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "my project. After a few years of"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "successful program participation, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "briefed into the history of the series"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "of projects I worked on prior to World"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "War I. A lone seaman"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "washed up on the shores of Liur,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "claiming to have been abducted in the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "middle of the ocean. He later reported"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "the enormity of dread felt seeing a"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "country in the sky"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "above his ship. He communicated a number"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "of theoretical principles consistent"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "with waveguide principles before"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "passing."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "I've seen the handwritten reports he"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "left behind. He specifically sketched"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "light trapped in threaded glass. A"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "sketch of a multi-tone optical repeater"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "with notations describing describing"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "energy preservation through interstitial"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "resonance."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "If anyone can translate that into a"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "six year sixth grader reading"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "comprehension, I would uh be very"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "appreciative. You know, not for me, but"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "you know, for other people who might"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "[gasps]"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "[sighs]"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "the most unsettling part of the report"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "what was written in the margin in a mix"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "of French and English. He mentioned"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "songs riding the glass and the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "whispering path. When he was asked what"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "ship he ended up on, the concept of"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "abduction wasn't understood well. He"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "mentioned being taken in a large open"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "structure where he moved through"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "shifting light and pressureless air. He"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "reported when he spoke there were echoes"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "with no walls, but the space around him"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "bent to each new thought he had as if it"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "were responding to him."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "There was nothing about meeting NHE just"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "being an infinitely existing and"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "weightless space."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "This report eventually ended up in the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "hands of a select lab in the USA. As far"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "as I know, it was the first crossborder"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "effort into the creation of fiber optic"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "There are rumors, there have been rumors"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "in the past that fiber optic technology"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "discovered or sort of reverse engineered"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "from one of the earlier crashes. We"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "suspect Roswell,"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "not some type of story written by a"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "sailor in the middle of the ocean, but"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "here we are."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Next post, he writes, \"I'm back. Those"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "comments were me. I have been busy"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "trying I suppose a lot of people uh"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "because of the initial statement saying"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "it is no longer my first language or"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "whatever it was. Uh probably doubted the"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "fact that this was the original poster"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "and he says those comments were me. I've"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "been busy today trying to arrange an"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "appearance on a reputable show to talk"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "about this in more detail."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Do tell. All right, here we go."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Materialization is for the amorphous"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "types only. They aren't the cse craft"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "type. They're an entirely conscious"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "being themselves."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "They have never communicated with us."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "They just exist in space. We do not have"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "the ability to see them with the naked"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "eye unless they want to be. No"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "contingent branch of any department I've"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "worked with in Europe has ever managed"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "to communicate with one. Though, we are"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "kept in the loop as to when they appear,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "what they appear as. Historically, it's"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "always been a glowing orb with a"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "wavelike pattern to them. They have"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "changed color and shape dependent on"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "what we've told them to do."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "They understand us. They are constantly"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "morphing, shape-shifting, and have the"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "ability to mimic airplanes, helicopters,"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "drones, etc."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "You lose me a little bit on that one. I"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "I I know, you know, I I've seen the"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "tweets and I've heard the stories of"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "people claiming that things have been"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "morphing in front of their very eyes and"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "have turned from a drone into a plane."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "it. Low conviction couldn't be lower"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "because a lot of the supporting evidence"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "of that is iPhone footage of an object,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "sometimes perhaps just a celestial"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "object like a star or satellite going in"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "and out of focus and in doing so creates"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "the illusion that it's morphing to"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "someone who isn't really technologically"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "savvy."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "And so when I saw a few of those, I was"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "kind of forced to be incredibly"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "skeptical about those claims. So not"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "completely obviously. I keep an open"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "mind, but I'm I don't know 10, five, 5%"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "on board with this idea. The final type"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "are small grays. They are entirely"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "manufactured within the facility and are"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "not a real species. The benevolent"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "facility does not have the capability to"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "print anymore. They are designed to"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "protect themselves and in the event of"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "objective failure to self-terminate."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Okay, well that makes like the beings"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "being printed to spec. That kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "makes sense. I mean that does make sense"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "with the current theory here. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "co-authored though I have contributed to"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "other studies using a pen name. I've"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "stayed well away from pursuing anything"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "beyond a master's degree. Modern"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "academia does not allow you or give you"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "resources to solving real problems. You"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "have to join a military branch and get"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "your own funding to do your own"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "research."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "And then he's responding to a comment"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "here. I I don't know if it's is because"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "we couldn't find the questions here, so"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "we're just kind of doing the A's and not"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "the Q's. Thank you. You're welcome."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "Thank you. I just don't see the point in"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "holding this together if we're this"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "close to the facility closing up shop."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "We will be challenged in the most"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "fundamental ways once more and this"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "planet used to be prior to the facility"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "being here. As soon as NHS realize we"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "don't actually have the level of"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "protection or technology they've been"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "interacting with, this planet will be"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "reduced to a tuck shop and a children's"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "playground."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Not sure what that is or what that"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "reference is, but I assume it's no good."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "Here we go. We got the Q's and the A's."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Now, questions."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "How many alien species have we contacted"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "so far? Two, what is their"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "mission/purpose here? And three, why are"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "they why are they don't show themselves?"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "Yeah, why are they don't show"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "themselves?"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Answer. I spoke about this in the thread"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "yesterday, which I've just realized is"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "somehow still active, though I will stay"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "here. The trip code confirms my"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "continuity. We have not contacted any"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "ourselves, as far as the European branch"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "is aware."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "There are three I am completely in the"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "loop with others I am not entirely sure"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "of. I've never heard of an underground"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "species, but I am aware of the"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "abnormalities in mainland Antarctica."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "The main species in Europe are the tall"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "blondes with bases in the UK, Germany,"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "France, and Italy. Resource collection"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "and our deterrent in the Atlantic is the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "answer to most questions here."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "So, yeah, Nordics. Nordics in Europe."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Who would have guessed?"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "Just hiding in plain sight."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Question. Wait, are you the OP from this"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "thread? Please tell us more about the"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "quantum wave. Is it actually a timeline"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "or what? Can we go back and forward in"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "time? How do you know all of this?"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "Answer. Yes, this is me. The quantum"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "wave is the essence of our 3D space. It"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "encapsulates every single bit of data"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "about our cosmic field uh parenthesis"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "universe as a resultant force of all"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "quantum micro field within it. See"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "previous comments for more information"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "unless you want something specific. We"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "had a debate about this with some of our"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "partner organizations calling our quote"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "unquote cosmic field the quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "universe is no longer accurate. There's"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "nothing singular about it. It's one of"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "many collective fields which compete for"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "space in a higher dimensional field. We"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "are aware of the nature of our cosmic"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "field from the direction benevolent NH"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "disclosure and a peer-led demonstration"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "of the quantum transfer process in an"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "underground research facility. It was"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "successful. I do not know if we can"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "travel back and forth in time. So"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "yeah, we had this idea uh last read"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "through of this competing quantum"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "uh existence where I guess something"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "like positive vibrations, don't even"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "quote me on that, um will overtake any"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "of the other sort of competing"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "timelines. And uh this machine that's in"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "the ocean is perhaps helping to do so. I"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "don't know. We I like the idea that"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "humans I mean obviously I like the idea"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "that humans are special that the humans"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "on earth are special on this earth that"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "we're kind of [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "blissfully ignorant to the fact that we"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "are with our everyday actions and"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "thoughts"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "affecting the universe as a whole. Like"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "can you imagine for a second how wild"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "this would be? it. What if we were the"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "center of the universe? Like"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "for instance, what if"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "everything only existed because of the"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "consciousness created in the human"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "brain?"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "Like what if all of these aliens are"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "trying to protect us because without us"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "they go away?"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "Like what if this whole universe is just"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "a result of our collective"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "human hallucination and that they are"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "these sentient beings residing within"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "our makebelieve world. Uh you know you'd"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "want to fight for that too if you were"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "them. But maybe you'd also want to be"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "like what happens if I turn it off."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "OP why did you leave the other thread?"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "Is the deterrent in the Atlantic the"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "4chain underwater base leak? Someone in"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "the other thread wanted more information"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "on the Nazi UAP. More details, please."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "Answer: I'm not familiar with other"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "leaks, just the Bigalow 2009200"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "reports which have been shown to me. In"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "the future, I will actively investigate"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "what is already in public domain. I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "trying to reach out to somebody secure"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "for a live interview and demonstration"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "soon. Wonder what he means by"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "demonstration."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Question. Tell me about these tall"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "blondes, please. What's the difference"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "normal human and the tall blondes? And"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "tell everything you know about tall"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "blondes."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "All right, tell about tall blondes and"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "what's the difference normal human and"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "tall blondes."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "The insanely low IQ in 4chan doesn't"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "help"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "um raise conviction level whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "here, but alas, I'm not saying I'm the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "smartest guy in the world, but"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "we all have access to like chatt now."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "Answer: I've never seen them alive, but"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "I've seen one supposed suspended in"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "liquid."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "That's like in Independence Day."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "She was incredibly beautiful."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "I have been in a tall blonde craft,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "bell-shaped. Oh, it had transparent"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "non-glass material as windows at the top"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "of the craft with a single seat facing"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "the entryway. There is an arch"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "broken in the one I entered. Behind the"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "seat and a large crystal placed at the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "very top of the craft, the craft had a"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "swastika on it."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "I will get to the other comments as soon"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "as possible."}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Is the poster here referring to DLO, the"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "bell, or perhaps even"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "the crash that happened in Kexsburg,"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "which by the way is covered in uh the"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "new Moment of Contact movie by James Fox"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "right at the top if you want to have a"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "look at that. Really, really cool case."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "I would love to cover that case"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "eventually cuz"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "there's a lot there. That's that's one"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "that I believe"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "I can't say I believe, but that's one"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "that I'm pretty high conviction on. I"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "think I think happened."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "Could be wrong."}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "Question. What has prevented the reverse"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "engineered craft being seen in much much"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "larger numbers? Are we still unable to"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "make certain parts and just limited by"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "what we have on the shelf from crash"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "retrievalss?"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "And why have those with the ability to"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "reverse engineer them not been more"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "visible with them? Is it just a limited"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "resource thing? So, it's still being"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "used very carefully. Can you talk to any"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "of the other features present in the"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "retrieved craft? Example, if we assume"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "it can run at say 5,000 G's, so it's a"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "few days between stars, how do the"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "occupants survive without oxygen, water,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "and food to sustain them? Are"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "electromagnetic waves actually"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "electromagnetic gravitic waves? Do you"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "use a rotating conductor to magnify the"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "EM EMG intensity?"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "Finally, this guy's got a lot of a lot"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "of brain power behind these questions."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "Finally, the power generation/collection"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "systems you are familiar with. Are they"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "using three orthogonal wire windings"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "with AC or DC to pull from the ZPE"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "field? ZPE being 0 point energy. All"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "right. If so, what are the basic sort of"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "voltages that are used to stimulate the"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "field? I can't get over statements from"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "folks that say their cigarette"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "packet-sized ZPE device only needs about"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "5 megawws to polarize slash stimulate"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "the device to enable them to pull out a"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "few kilowatts or much much more. Would"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "love to hear more on the tech side of"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "I would love to as well. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "entirely convinced I'll be ready to"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "comprehend it. But here we go. Answer."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "This is an interesting set of questions,"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "but you've layered questions in a way"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "that doesn't allow me to answer them all"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "with the full breadth of information"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "I've learned. We don't have many that"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "are capable of flight. I know America"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "has a few pill-shaped while we're still"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "trying discs. We are, however, on much"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "better terms with our co-inhabiting NHS."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "The Chernobyl incident quite literally"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "had no impact on the very few NH"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "populations across Europe."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "Skirting the highly sensitive"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "information. You do not have to be"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "inside the craft to make it move. I am"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "aware of a branch that have been"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "successful in the creation of headsets"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "which allow us to move them remotely."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "Though the user cannot survive once the"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "headset is released from the skull."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "That's crazy. That's crazy because"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "headsets I think were force first"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "mentioned by um Philip Corso,"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "but then Danny Sheihin in our interview"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "near the end of the interview,"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "he talks about how they put this thing"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "over the soldiers heads and it fries"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "their brains because it tries to"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "interface with the craft. Now again, is"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "this LAR pulling from the words that"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "Danny Shehan uttered on our podcast"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "or are these two"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "related in a way that you know, is it"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "true? Wow, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "Either way, this guy's putting in"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "homework."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "My knowledge of NH biology is limited,"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "though I do know anatomy differs between"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "species. Some species do not require any"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "sustenance at all. Some require complex"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "amino chains to continue piloting a"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "craft."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "The rotating conductor question is"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "fairly dangerous to answer. However,"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "some combinations of materials paired"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "with certain fuel sources in a localized"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "environment with force exerted inducing"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "variability to the environment local to"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "the field create electromagnetism and"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "gravity. this knowledge has existed in"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "documentation dating back to the 1980s."}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "I'll go on a limb and say probably even"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "prior to that and that's that might be a"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "little red flag here because I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "sure the work of T towns and Brown"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "uh back in the 50s would have also"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "dabbled in high voltage electromagnetism"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "etc. Um, check out Jesse Michael's"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "documentary on TTB if you're interested."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "I do not enjoy this technical subject."}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "The truth is a lot of technology behind"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "the phenomena can be used in incredibly"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "destructive scenarios. I do not want to"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "see a quantum field collapse weapon"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "deployed on this planet. You and me"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "both. Question. If he doesn't mention"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "anything about the data harvest of human"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "souls by the mantids, this is BS."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "Is it answer? I thought last thread had"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "a few skitso comments, but I actually"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "Googled this and found people believe"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "this. The strange thing is I can"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "somewhat see this being the case. That"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "loop when positively reinforced could"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "fuel positive integer generation within"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "our cosmic field, but I've never come"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "across anything stating it. Wait a"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "second."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "He's saying the idea of a louch"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "generator could be real."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "This idea of luch uh born by"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "I think Robert Monroe was this idea of"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "these machines that are pulling fear and"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "negative energy"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "or that are producing fear uh tactics so"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "that we become fearful and then they are"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "sort of leeching on on on the fear that"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "we give off and that sustains them."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "There is no hell that doesn't have that"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "by the way. That is very scary."}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "And if he if what he's saying here"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "because the uh"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "I don't know something about the"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "positively reinforced"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "positive integer generation. I don't"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "even understand any of that. But"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "I hope he's wrong. Question. I'm asking"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "questions assuming the OP is true"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "regardless of whether it actually is."}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "All right, I like I like the attitude."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "Okay, we got a whole list here. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "let's go down it. So, to increase this"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "quantum wave in the positive direction,"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "do we have to think in more NPCike ways"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "or are unique thoughts more quantum"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "positive? Great question."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "Two, does the current system of morality"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "play into the quantum wave? And if so,"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "how? Because that could be argued as an"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "arbitrary and subjective everchanging"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "Overton window of acceptable and not"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "acceptable things. How would this"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "quantum wave register that? Great"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "question. Or as a Dowist would put it,"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "you know, there is no good, there is no"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "bad. So, who are you to judge, right?"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "What's the metric for that? How do they"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "judge that?"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "If banished, Fallen Angels reference,"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "NHS set up shop here from the get-go for"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "their own personal gain. They do not"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "drag down our collective earth quantum"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "wave into negative direction. And if"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "that's the case, this is a rigged"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "game. They've had years ahead of us in"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "awareness dragging us to quantum."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "[laughter] At this point, we probably"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "done for LMO."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "Next question. What do you know about"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "alien abductions? Are they real? What is"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "their purpose there? Next question. What"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "do you know about commonly described"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "alien species? Grays, reptilians,"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "mantis, Nordic looking humans, anything"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "there. Give us locations of interest on"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "Earth. Antarctica, Bermuda Triangle,"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "Catalina Island, Pine Gap, Australia."}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Do you know of any craft that has"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "crashed that is so large the cover up"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "people built a building over it? Where"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "is it exactly?"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "Who among public UAP figures is telling"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "the truth or a disinfo agent that you"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "know of?"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "Luelando, Steven Greer, Jake Barber,"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "David Grush,"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "Eric Davis, Matthew Brown, Bob Lazar,"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "Carl Nell, etc. Since when have human"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "organizations known about the whole UAP?"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "NHE are real stuff historically. And"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "since when have we been in cahoots with"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "who? Okay, all really fascinating"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "questions. Um, we'll see here if the"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "poster will acknowledge previous"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "leaks or invent his own. We'll see"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "[snorts]"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "So the quantum wave into into positive"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "direction. Uh chained propagation"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "interpositive factors are the only"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "measurable variable which create the"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "quantum positive state. Generalize this"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "to mean anything that propagates the"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "idea of a good person without the"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "element of external environmental"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "factors and you will have a very good"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "picture as to what creates the best"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "environment for whole planetary"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "ascension. Anything that breaks the"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "chain of propagation is wholly quantum"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "negative. Our human morality plays"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "almost no part in it. It's entirely"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "outside and primordial to the laws we've"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "written and follow in human society. I"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "imagine that's part of the reason why"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "this field is so well defended."}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "Not sure I I fully grasp, but I guess"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "it's some quantum"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "scale."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "You know, I think back to"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "uh going into the afterlife in Egypt"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "where they'd weigh your heart against a"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "feather and that type of deal."}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "You know, the idea of good and bad"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "and you know, heaven and hell and these"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "opposites has existed for a very long"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "time. But I've always to myself thought,"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "who am I as a person?"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "to be the one to say, you know, what's"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "good or what's bad. In the grand scheme"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "of things, I'm I'm only here for a very"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "limited amount of time, and I I don't"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "know the full effects of any of these"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "scenarios."}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "And so, it would make sense that there"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "is some type of quantum morality, if you"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "will, that we don't have access to, that"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "we just kind of maybe feel intuitively."}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "I don't know."}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "Um, now the morality question here. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "it is true this is a battle starting on"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "the back foot. Rouge NH"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "do not care for us or this quantum wave."}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "They were banished from their own"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "planets and are in an active process of"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "planetary destruction in an effort to"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "join the next quantum wave within our"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "macrocosmic quantum field. We are a bit"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "of an outlier in the sense that we are"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "quite far away, relatively speaking,"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "from advanced inhabited planets."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Rouge being the red team, bad team. I"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "have seen the tall blonde in suspension"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "and her craft. The others are reports"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "I'm kept in the loop with"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "Antarctica houses NH species that are"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "sometimes benevolent to humans. It turns"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "out many NHE are the opposite of us,"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "almost entirely nocturnal with an"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "inverse symmetry to our anatomy."}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "What does that mean? Where do your"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "genitals grow if you have inverse"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "symmetry?"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "It's like that diagram with the,"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "you know, how does uh how does a horse"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "wear pants type deal. Or maybe maybe"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "it's not like that at all."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "Whatever. Some NH are not humanoid at"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "all. Instead, more abstract forms of"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "amorphous consciousness currently"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "publicized via satellite. Bermuda is a"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "location of our protective entity. All"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "right. Question. Aside from losing our"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "Jesus Gundam,"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "uh, does the depletion of this valuable"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "resource passively affect the biome of"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "Earth in some observable way? Does a"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "planet with a lot of this material feel"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "different than one without? The resource"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "is not logically generative. It requires"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "an incredibly high density to develop"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "and can almost only be done through a"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "manufacturing process unavailable to us."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "It is available even in trace amounts on"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "this planet and can only be manufactured"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "in craft using specific hypothesized"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "methods we cannot yet recreate. A great"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "researcher I know reported the only"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "possible way to create in any"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "transformative quantity would be in a"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "process of time dilation using an"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "environment with a density exceeding 100"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "neutron stars."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "I suppose he's talking about Moscow or"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "element 115"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "and that we might have a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "trace amounts here. Question. So quantum"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "wave represents the expanding universe."}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "Also, uh, Gundam Jesus is, uh, pretty"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "funny. Uh, so quantum wave represents"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "the expanding universe."}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "Does the difference in quantum integers"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "account for the difference in rates of"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "expansion in different locations"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "observed in the universe?"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "Answer: generalizing and not applying"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "the line of inquiry to distance in"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "linear space. Yes. Think of it as our"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "human species becoming multilanetary and"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "humans as we know them today being born"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "on multiple planets across space."}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "Eventually,"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "people will learn to do things in"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "different ways and evolve to become"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "different beings, different NHS."}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "This new population in a new environment"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "actively increases variable generation"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "leading to new things being discovered"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "into their own ability to transform and"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "go elsewhere etc. Life in the universe"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "follows the same pattern as life across"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "countries on our planet. It's"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "symmetrical."}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "That makes total sense to me, by the"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "way, that as above, so below. As the the"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "veins course through our body, so do the"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "rivers on Earth. And and the nebula out"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "in the universe. You know, our migration"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "tactics and patterns are probably"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "mirrored on a grander scale or on even a"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "micro scale. So that does make sense to"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "me as well."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "question. Where is the lost Ark of the"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "Covenant? Where is Noah's Ark? Answer."}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "Crackhead questions. Next."}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "I like that the researchers kept that"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "one in there. How is that crackhead"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "questions? These are decent questions. I"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "I also wonder, you know, if such things"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "are real. Question one, they are created"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "the human race."}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "Two, Jesus Christ story is fake or Jesus"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "are one of them or what?"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "Three, can you show us a photo about"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "tall blonde? You can use AI photo to"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "recreate what they looks like exactly."}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "Four, can you tell me more about their"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "beliefs and what their plan to the human"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "race?"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "Five, are you heard about Lerta"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "interview?"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Google it and read it and it is true."}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Sorry for my English. It not really good"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "answer. I don't know the full story of"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "the creation of our race, but when I"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "asked, something similar to the above"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "was described to me. I might try to use"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "AI to recreate the tall blonde I saw."}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "It's just Sydney Sweeney"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "in a vat. I'd watch that movie. This"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "summer, one vat, one tall blonde. All"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "right, we're moving on. Question. Hello,"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "I represent an outside operation in"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "action on planet Earth in this universe."}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "Are you aware of Blue Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "November?"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "The second net"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "distributed wall facing is advantageous"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "to large population civilizations with"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "closed medians like ours. If you are"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "smart as you claim, then you must have"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "noticed that certain signals we are"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "actively collecting under the pretense"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "of natural astronomy are actually"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "intelligible signals. Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "And then some numbers. Uh what is"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "significant about that mathematically?"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Superstar hint use pi and ex exponents"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "as a interesting set of questions there."}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "It goes on."}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "If you can only send one message, what"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "do you send anyway? Jesus Christ as an"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "entity of protection for this world as"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "you describe it seems like he won't be"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "coming back to me. He's three bl away"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "Vishnu is closer. Facts."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "Thing about Vishnu though is that Vishnu"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "isn't a biological. Vishnu at this time"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "consists of a mesh hive of fluid"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "synchronous nanom machines that have"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "technology which allow for fluid"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "manipulation of large units of spaceime"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "birectional on the time axis. Vishnu is"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "time indifferent."}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "Vishnu decided to use blue Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "November. I'm just going to fast forward"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "to the answer."}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "Um the answer says this is entirely"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "skitso. take your medication and I don't"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "want to be denigrating anybody with"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "schizophrenia. It's a very serious"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "illness. Um, but obviously the the"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "platform that is 4chan, you know, uses"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "the term quite freely over there and"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "there may be a lot of schizophrenic"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "people on that uh in this in this little"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "chat. Question, what are the resources"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "the autonomous defense system is running"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "out of? I'm confused by the"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "contradiction of ZPE and relativity."}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "Assuming you have the technology of a"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "race that scares away all other NH, you"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "should be able to manufacture"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "indefinitely. So what are the resources"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "it's running out of? Answer, it's not"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "technology that's scaring them away."}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "It's the ruthless deployment of it on"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "anything that isn't of this planet."}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "There's no thinking process. It's"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "binary. Are you of this planet or not?"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "If not, goodbye."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "Okay, question."}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "Wait,"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "if this is the case, why are NHI even"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "allowed on the planet? Wouldn't that"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "just be instakkilled?"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "Answer: As far as I've been briefed,"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "there have been cases of DNA sharing"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "with NHS, which effectively pacify the"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "facility. This DNA sharing process was"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "operated from within the USA and agreed"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "by senior strategy of the American"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "government with an undisclosed NH"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "species."}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "Whoa, that's actually insane."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "Whoa. Hold on. Okay, let's keep reading."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "This is crazy. With shared DNA and"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "within a hydrogen-based suit, quote"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "unquote, they can operate to some extent"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "with impunity. 2004, the facility was"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "under attack by another very hostile"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "facility on the opposite side of the"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "planet using our DNA to mask themselves."}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "After this event, the facility started"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "operating on a hair trigger. Even a ship"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "carrying souls turned too quickly in the"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "vicinity of it would be instantly"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "vaporized."}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "Good luck if you're in a submarine and"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "trying to make a sharp turn anywhere in"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "around Bermuda."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "Ultimately, the damage has been done."}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "Our protective facility will no longer"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "be present in a few short years. If that"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "this planet better catch up and share"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "advanced technology, otherwise we're"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "risking the entire population. Be vocal."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "demand serious investigations into UAP"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "phenomena. Even Durham University are"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "bringing to launch their own studies."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "The aversion to the topic is no longer"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "beneficial for anybody."}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "Amen."}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "Also, I believe NH7 left a clear mental"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "imprint on me to begin dissemination of"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "this information. I'm sure if this is"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "what was intended, but it's likely the"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "best action I can currently take."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "first off, I want to say what a wild"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "twist that I did not expect because"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "logically there seems to be a fallacy"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "here between this system protecting us"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "from outside invaders where they just"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "kind of eradicate them. Oh, you're not"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "from here. Zap, you're gone."}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "How would there be species here? How"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "would we be working with species? Well,"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "the answer to that is that they've been"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "taking our DNA."}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "This is"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "this is groundbreaking if true. This is"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "really cuz you know the only hypothesis"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "that we could come up with for"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "the reason behind abductions and genetic"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "experiments and hybridization or"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "enhancements"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "were sort of that these aliens maybe"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "needed to assimilate for, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "observation reasons or monitoring"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "reasons."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "or perhaps, you know, they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "I don't even know take over or like"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "there was never a solid reason behind"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "any of that."}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "I always thought, you know, maybe maybe"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "humans are just some type of experience"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "factory and they're trying to speed up"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "the process to acquire more experience"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "to feed into the quantum field or"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "whatever. I don't know. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "that makes sense to anybody, but the"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "idea that they had to sort of camouflage"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "themselves using our DNA is really"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "interesting and that there might also be"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "other quote unquote benevolent species"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "here that we've allowed in and we've"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "given them, we've traded them much like"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "the, you know, famous Griata treaty in"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "54 I think was where we exchanged, you"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "know, we gave them the right to"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "abductions and and they gave us in"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "exchange techn technology. Maybe those"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "were actually the good guys. I don't"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "know. This is crazy. I kind of like this"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "now. Also, the fact that he says he"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "believes the NH that he interacted with"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "gave him some type of mental imprint to"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "begin dissemination of this information"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "to the population. Bars"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "um is interesting because why would you"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "go to 4chan? Why not come to me, right?"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "Why not appear right now in my office"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "right over here and just be like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "we want you to tell the world.\" Why not"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "do that? Why not come to like somebody"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "with an audience instead of like Farmer"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "Joe or you know what I mean? If you're"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "trying to get the word out, these guys"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "could take a take a crash course in"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "social media or at least a baseline in"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "marketing. Question. There have been"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "theories lately that crop circles are"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "simply diagrams for gravity propulsion"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "engines. Some have experimented with"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "magnetic fields using the circles as"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "guides."}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "For example, uh you can find these all"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "over the place. A common one is using"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "about six strong magnets in a circle"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "with a copper disc in the middle. A rod"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "goes through the disc to keep the dish"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "stablish."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "Electric driven magnets turn on and the"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "copper disc levitates and rotates. All"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "of the experiments are the same. Start"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "with a crop circle. Slap together a few"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "circle magnets, make a guess on negative"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "or positive, and make the thing in the"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "middle spin. Is it a ridiculous idea"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "devoid of merit? Good question."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "Nope. You're almost entirely spoton."}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "Crop circles have been our benevolent"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "facility, leaving behind messages for us"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "to solve."}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "We have almost 100% confidence it's from"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "the facility because we've seen the orbs"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "making them generate over time and"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "return to the same locations."}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "It's always been about the continuity of"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "our race with a gentle guided hand. Soon"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "that stops. We must become our own"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "species for the guarantee of our future."}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "No more integrating with NHS or"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "assimilation with technology to keep us"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "busy. We must begin to address these"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "fundamental gaps in our societies."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "All right. Question."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "Full question is pasted about monarch"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "aquino torture sigh demonic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "Okay. Answer. These cults are not"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "representative of most people working on"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "the cutting edge of physics. This is"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "mental illness. The partially regressive"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "animal human brain propagating patterns"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "of negative integer. Our brains are"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "nothing but tools of propagation. I will"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "delay more in interviews. I have"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "arranged detail more sorry. Uh we exist"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "to create the separation between"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "negative and positive quantum integer."}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "Disclosure is not demonic. It's just a"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "debrief. As the Bible says more than"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "anything else, do not be afraid. Accept"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "the truth and guide your local community"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "the right way. Be full of positive"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "intention and deploy it to help people"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "around you. Through this you practice"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "opening microtubules."}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "It's your method of quantum reception. I"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "will leave this here for now. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "Microtubules has always been really uh"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "an interesting topic especially if we"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "take a look at I think how put off wrote"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "a whole paper on it. How put off also"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "obviously starting uh you know Stanford"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "Research Institute on the study of"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "psychic activity through Stargate and"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "also you know said to have perhaps been"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "part of the program in some way by some"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "people you know says a lot of I I can't"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "talk about that type deal."}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "He was interested in microtubules. the"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "person who dissected the alien, the uh"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "this this leaker that came out on"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "Reddit, you know, with the the was it"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "molecular biologist said that the the"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "number one thing, the most paramount of"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "objectives that he had to see through"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "was to"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "sort of break down the use of the"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "microtubules found in the being's brains"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "because somehow that probably"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "you know, has to do with piloting the"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "crafts."}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "And so, yeah, we have these little"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "quantum computers in our heads that have"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "access to the greater quantum field. And"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "then raising our collective sort of"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "positive nature allows us to tap into"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "that field a little bit more. I love"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "that idea because even if it's"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "completely made up and fake,"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "it's a net positive and I can get behind"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "question. Is Earth quarantined off from"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "the rest of the universe because of the"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "Lucifer Rebellion?"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "All right, answer. I do not know the"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "full history behind this planet, but I"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "want to make clear we have been visited"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "by NH for a very long time. There likely"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "is truth to historic tales, and we are"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "not the only civilization that has"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "existed on this planet. Failed"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "civilizations propagating a negative"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "quantum integer, have had to be erased."}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "Civilizations worshiping the arrival of"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "NH instead of our own success have been"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "erased. NHE, which have come to this"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "planet to breed with human women, have"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "had their entire race"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "erased."}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "This planet has always been about"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "expanding capability of humans."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "We are of this planet and should do"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "everything we can to not only develop"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "ourselves but develop our planet using"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "means of development which are net"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "beneficial to both us and earth. This"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "silly destructive tirade begun by a"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "generation now passing must come to an"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "end. We have to take control of our"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "future."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "Well said. Like I said, net positive."}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "Be a good person."}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "Stay positive in your thoughts. Look at"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "the bright side. Silver lining type"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "deal. And and keep a positive outlook on"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "life and and um your life will become"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "more magical. Open yourself to the"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "possibility of magic and and you'll find"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "it. Is it Dr. Seuss? It says uh"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "what does he say? Hold on."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "I guess it wasn't Dr. Seuss, but he does"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "have a good quote about magic. He says,"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "\"You can find magic wherever you look."}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "Sit back, relax. All you need is a"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "book.\" And ain't that the truth. Last"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "question, folks. You blink and multiple"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "threads on the boards are being slided."}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "Feds are working overtime. This is"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "never organically active. It's always"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "telling me when they are. Answer. I do"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "not doubt this is the case. Okay."}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "we'll see how many people this video"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "reaches."}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "And that's the end of our two-part read"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "through here into this"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "alleged whistleblower. What do you guys"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "think?"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "Obviously, there are some connections to"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "be made with the original 4chan poster,"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "who we so frequently"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "acknowledge and"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "quote."}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "Was there any information here that"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "struck you as novel, as new as"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "or or was everything pretty much"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "regurgitated"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "from previous cases? And if that's the"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "case,"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "do you where does your conviction level"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "lie? Do you think this guy is just kind"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "Frankensteining all the current theories"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "that are out there that we tend to"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "[music] subscribe to and and made this"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "one cohesive image? Or is he really"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "piecing it together? Did did is what"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "he's saying reality?"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "My conviction level"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "on this is"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "I reserve a low conviction."}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "Um just because I don't want to be part"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "of the reason such potential LARs are"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "being propagated."}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "They watch the channel, they collect the"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "data, they type it into chat GPT,"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "they type it back so it appears a little"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "bit off, and then all of a sudden we"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "have a new LAR. It's not that hard to"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "do. I'm aware of this."}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "Well, I'll tell you,"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "I don't know anybody"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "that put this much effort into reading"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "it out loud. Correct me if I'm wrong."}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "Therefore, if this person did write"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "this, there's a big chance that this"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "person is watching this video."}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "And if you're watching this video, yes,"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "you,"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "and you're looking for a place to go on"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "air to talk about these things,"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "please reach out to me."}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "We will have you on the show. I'll fly"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "you out. I'll put you up and you'll be"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "on the show. Now, obviously, we're going"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "to need to see some credentials prior to"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "that. We're going to need to figure that"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "out. But if what if if I can match you"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "to this person"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "and if"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "you can prove to me in some capacity"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "that you are an official whatever this"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "says you are, then um I will have you in"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "the studio. We'll we'll have you in the"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "skiff. We'll make a podcast. What do you"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "say?"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "This is an open invitation. Um, and if I"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "don't hear from you, I have no choice"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "but to call BS on this."}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "I don't normally say that, but you"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "actively said that you're looking,"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "you're actually talking to someone to,"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "you know, go public and do a"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "demonstration or what have you. Well,"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "I'm giving you the opportunity. Deny"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "this opportunity. If we don't see a"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "follow-up to this, we'll have no choice"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "but to have the lowest conviction for"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "this story. And I would love nothing"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "more than for this to possibly at least"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "some of it be true."}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "Let me know your thoughts below. What's"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "your conviction percentage? Where do you"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "lie? 40% this is real. 20 30 10. I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "like 10 maybe? Maybe maybe 15. You get"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "back to me and we set up an interview."}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "That'll raise it to 30 after the"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "interview. Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "Let me know thoughts below. Check it"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "out. Area52.shop shop for our merch or"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "the newsletter,"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "it's probably nothing.com. 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Uh, and like I said,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "the whole thing was looked like plasma,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "like inside of a glass triangle's way I"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "can describe it. And on the back there"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "was what sticking out the back of it. It"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "kind of looked like a candle flame,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "it was in the wrong direction cuz it was"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "pointing towards the side and and the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "flame was just not flickering like a"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "candle, but just moving a little bit. It"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "was the strangest thing I've ever seen"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "in my life."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Folks, real quick note. We are less than"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "a week away from our very first live"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "podcast in Austin, Texas, the Paramount"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Theater, which happens February 5th."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Tickets are almost completely sold out."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "If you want to come check us out,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "definitely do so. I promise you, you"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "won't be disappointed when you arrive at"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "the show. It's going to be such a great"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "experience. So, I urge you to check out"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "those tickets. Go to"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "itsprobablynothing.com"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "for our tickets February 5th at the"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Paramount Theater in Austin or February"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "20th in Canada. If you're a local"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Canadian like myself, make the drive."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Come check us out February 20th at the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Rialto Theater. tickets at it's probably"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "nothing.com. We'll see you there. Ladies"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "and gentlemen, welcome back to another"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "episode of Debriefed. My name is Chris"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Ramsey and today we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "taking a look at something the Area 52"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "team likes to refer to as is it a LAR or"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "is it leak? And in today's game of LAR"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "leak, we're going to be looking at a"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "whistleblower that came out, and I say"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the whistleblower with these giant air"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "quotations, uh, that came forward on"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "4chan and Reddit, ended up doing a Q&A."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "So, not unlike the original 4chan"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "whistleblower post that we covered in, I"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "think, four parts earlier last year."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "This one does"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "pull from those. I don't know if this is"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "the same person. I don't know. I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "know what to make of this, but at the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "end of the day, we're going to suspend"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "our disbelief, pretend it's real for a"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "second, and give it the benefit of the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "doubt as we read through it, and see if"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "we can find any connections. But yes,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "obviously, reserve some skepticism here."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "This isn't the gospel. This isn't the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "truth. This isn't fact. This isn't"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "anything you should take seriously. But"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "with that being said, folks, something"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "you might want to take seriously is,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "well, a quick word from our sponsors."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "You know what nobody tells you about"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "weekn night dinners is that they happen"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "every single day. 5:00 p.m. it's back"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "all the time again. Again, again. As"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "someone who works a lot, I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "it's just a lot to think about. Editing,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "researching, building episodes, and"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "suddenly it's 9:00 p.m. and I realize I"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "haven't eaten anything uh that isn't"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "coffee. And that's the real problem."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "It's not about being good or bad at"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "cooking. It's the mental load of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "figuring out, you know, what I'm going"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "to eat when I'm extremely exhausted or"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "or how I'm going to cook. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "HelloFresh has been a gamecher for me. I"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "mean, look at this meal. 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Admire this dish."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "What HelloFresh really gives you back"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "isn't just dinner. It's time and energy."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "It's the ability to sit down instead of"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "stress eating while standing at the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "counter. I use this. And if you're like"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "me and you you got a lot on your mind,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "you got a lot going on, I think you"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "should, too. So, here's the deal. Go to"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "hellofresh.com/eria55210FM"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "to get 10 free meals plus a free"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "swilling knife. 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Like this"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "video, subscribe, hit the notification"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "bell, and folks, without any further"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "ado, let's get through this. We got a"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "lot of pages to get through. I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "know if we'll do it all today, but we're"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "going to see how far we can get into it."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "All right, so the first page uh begins"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "with a bit of an opening message for"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "everyone here. And it says, \"Hello,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "an open parenthesis and goodbye all."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "I'm speaking out because I and now"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "others also know what is coming.\" You"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "will be receiving more quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "secret information on UAP over the next"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "2 years as a gradual measure before the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "grand reveal. I want you all to be"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "prepared for the eventualities here."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "I have three degrees and very high"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "competence in algorithm design. I was"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "directly involved in the autokinetic"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "implementation of a European country's"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "zero point crafts."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "I have membership with multiple"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "hard-to-reach agencies across Europe."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Even then, I still know very little"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "about the full zero point capability of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "every single country I've worked for."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Recently, I was part of what is known as"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "an NH7"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "debrief,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "directly receiving communication from a"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "being originating outside of this"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "planet. This NHE"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "has been in support of the human race"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "for a very long time and will be leaving"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Earth soon to make way"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "for what is coming."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "All right. Bit um some foreshadowing"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "here. A bit ominous like this aliens"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "living here. But he's like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "I guess it's time for me to pack up and"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "get out of here cuz something else is"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "coming.\" The Earth has historically been"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "a quote unquote battleground for alien"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "species. Over tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "years, exotic species have demonstrated"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "magical, actually just quantum ability"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "to people of this planet to attain local"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "godlike status. Think"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Maha Barata in Hinduism."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Some of this was for personal gain,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "whereas some were genuine sacrifice to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "teach people of this planet how to"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "correctly increase quantum states to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "positive, what we call integer flows."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "The repeated destructive flow was"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "eventually stopped after a benevolent"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "species laid claim to this planet and"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "left behind an autonomous facility to"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "regularly audit the planet for any"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "outside interference. This planet has"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "been under the protection of this ever"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "watching autonomous facility for a very"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "long time. This is now ending due to"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "depletion of local resources, not just"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "on this planet. It has been unable to"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "print craft occupants for a while and"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "has been gradually reducing the size of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "autonomous bots in an effort to maintain"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "audit operations. I will only answer"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "sensible questions. Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Many of flags are being raised so far,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "folks. Let me know in the comments after"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "that opening message. What is your"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "gestalt? What is your feeling or vibe"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "that this person gives off? Do we feel"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "like this is a lar to begin with or do"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "we feel like this might be real? Are you"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "on the fence? What's your conviction"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "level? I'm rather low. Uh this does"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "sound like somebody who again if this"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "subject matter and by that I refer to as"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the system that sort of occupies this"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "planet if that is real and indeed a"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "reality then it's going to be hard to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "distinguish fact from fiction here."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Right? Um if it is indeed a reality this"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "might be a LAR of that reality. So, one"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "of the previous leaks might have been"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "real and this might just be sort of"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "worldbuilding off of that. The other"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "option being that the first one is"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "completely fake and this one is also"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "just made up. Uh, and another option yet"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "again is that the first one would be"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "made up, but this one's real. But, you"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "know, who really knows? Um, I don't gel"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "well with the idea that"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "we're running out of resources to print"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "these autonomous beings and craft."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "I think there are probably plenty of"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "resources left, especially in the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "oceans, that are completely untapped."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Uh, it would surprise me to know that"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "we're out like that. A few hundred or"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "few thousand years of making UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "we would run out when after a hundred"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "years we have billions of cars and we"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "still haven't run out. So, doesn't"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "really make any sense from my maybe I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "wrong there, but uh that seems a little"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "ridiculous to me."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "But alas, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "stuff is really hard to obtain and to"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "create. And maybe the uh original post"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "or the OP as we'll he'll be referred to"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "here as uh might answer might clarify"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "some of that. A nuclear bomb detonates"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "very soon in the future. This is a"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "question, by the way. A nuclear bomb"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "detonates very soon in the future and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "we're all going to die because robots"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "had a religion that everyone is born in"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the infinite as punishment for not being"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "chose to be robots. Even though the"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "truth is God loves everyone equally and"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "all have their purpose. But my question"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "is, do you think that the timetraveling"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "UFOs will continue to kidnap people and"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "continue to place people in segregated"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "realities? Or do you think that some"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "people will be allowed to interact with"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "each other even despite Earth being"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "destroyed and everyone placed inside of"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "a matrix?"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "4chan is a funny place, folks. There is"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "no grain of salt large enough for you to"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "be holding while reading these comments."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "But uh so just know that the questions"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "will be completely unhinged from this"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "point moving forward as 4chan might just"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "be the biggest cesspool of information"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "and especially of posting. There's no"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "regulation there. So this this might be"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "the tip of the iceberg. But interesting"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "question nonetheless. And the OP"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "answers, I was warned I would get some"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "shiso comments. I'm assume that means"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "schizophrenic, but even reading this one"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "weirded me out a bit."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "The threat is not about a nuclear weapon"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "detonating directly. It's the weapon"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "being allowed to detonate due to the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "lack of resources from our autonomous"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "facility to stop it from happening. The"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "Earth is about to be opened up to the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "outside interference again in the most"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "overt way possible. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "anything about time traveling or"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "kidnappings or about robot God."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Thanks for the warning OP and good"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "morning. Do you believe in God? How do"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "you understand religion on earth given"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "what you have come to know?"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "The answer, I never used to. I was"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "brought up an intellectual. I was very"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "indifferent to religion later in my"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "life, but recently I felt a strong"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "change within myself specifically"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "towards the message of Christ."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Personally, only the message of Christ"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "encapsulates everything I think the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "average person should be working"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "towards. And it has a very strong"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "correlation with the NH briefing I"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "received. Whether this happened before"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "or after I learned what I know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "unsure."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Huh. I would love to read this briefing."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "By the way, I've worked with associates"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "of the Vatican who seem to be under no"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "illusion the autonomous facility was"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "left behind by Christ. According to"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "them, after the facility is quote"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "unquote broken and the planet is in"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "crisis, Christ will appear again and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "restore protections to this planet."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Jesus was apparently a high status"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "traveling being of another NH species"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "who placed multiple protections on this"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "planet through the autonomous facility."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "All reference to other civilizations who"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "worship non-benevolent NH were erased."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Okay, interesting. So this uh this alien"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Jesus came by and buffed our planet for"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "a while, but that buff is unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "wearing thin. So they expect him to be"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "back and that might be the second"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "coming. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "so in regards to we'll be leaving Earth"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "soon to make way for what is coming."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "What is coming? When is it coming? And"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "how do we prepare for it? With the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "cessation of the autonomous facility,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the planet will be open to outside"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "interference again. I've been told it is"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "a as grand as receiving other"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "civilizations across space. The problem"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "we have are some of the species not"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "having good intentions towards this"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "planet. We are rich in life-giving"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "resources. Most species run out of"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "materials and have to plunder other"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "planets which we will have almost no"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "defense to should they in should they"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "should to okay clearly just"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "might be late at night here. We will"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "have almost no defense. This is giving"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "me a stroke. um should they induce"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "worldchanging events like altering the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "electromagnetic field of our planet and"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "opening us up to a cataclysm most of us"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "wouldn't survive in though the inbound"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "species would. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "convenient. The common man cannot defend"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "themselves against this, but with"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "advancements in UAP technology, select"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "few will survive by habiting other"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "planets in the solar system."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Okay, we did have a post on Reddit uh"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "that we read through a while ago where"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "he was talking about 2027, the arids"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "sort of protecting the evolution, the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "monitoring of the earth. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "this ant species was going to invade us"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "and that uh we were going to be we're"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "going to end up being weaponized by not"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "the Aids but the council"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "um in order to defend ourselves from"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "this possible alien threat. All of which"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "sounds like a sci-fi novel uh novel. My"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "one qual"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "sits with the fact that"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "if you were some type of species that"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "needed resources, let's assume, which I"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "don't, by the way, I don't assume that a"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "billion years"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "um advancement in technology makes it so"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "that we still plunder planets for their"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "resources. I think at that point we"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "might have found some type of workound."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "But in the event that we still need"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "resources in order to develop technology"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "and to sustain our habitat, you would"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "think that you would plunder some of"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "these exoplanets that don't have a"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "defense or that don't have living"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "beings."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Unless of course we are the resource."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "That's all I can take from this because"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "otherwise it would be much less of a"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "struggle to, you know, go to some of"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "these exoplanets that potentially have"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "the exact same amount of material if not"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "more than Earth. Plunder those without"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "any resistance. As you know, futile and"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "meek as that resistance might be, it"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "still requires an extra effort to get"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "through. So, why not just go to one of"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "these planets that doesn't have things"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "on them,"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "living things. Uh, so, you know, seems a"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "bit strange to me as well. Again, just"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "another little flag popping up here. And"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "I'm still, you know, considering the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "idea that we might be the resource, the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "containers, as was put by the briefing"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "that was allegedly uh given to Bob"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Lazar."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "We we might be the containers of some"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "valuable resource, maybe our souls or"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "whatnot."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "But then uh then we start sounding a"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "little like Scientologists and again is"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "that real is I don't know just kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "it's all kind of weird. A real leaker"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "would post on Reddit not 4chan fake."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Okay. I don't want to post on a website"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "with such a strong set of identifying"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "data on users. Anything from browser ID,"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "HW ID, IP could be fuzzy matched with"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "one of my machines and I don't want that"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "to happen. This guy's being a little"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "defensive, you know. Odd odd thing to"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "reply to."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Why do you type like this? A full break"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "with each new line. Are you sure you"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "aren't a chat GBT? Because you read like"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "you a chat GBT. I'm not any Transformers"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "model. Though I did help build one of"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "the biggest iterations of a Europeowned"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "bite latened model to try and decode"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "some symbols given to me from an exotic"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "craft. I'm not the best software"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "developer and the best people in the"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "field are just flat out not working on"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "this cutting edge technology. So the OP"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "is definitely European. It seems that"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "way anyways with the spelling errors and"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "uh sort of just his vocabulary."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Lar would have worked better if you had"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "just said you're an atheist, buddy boy."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "I feel I'm closer to being an atheist"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "than a real Christian. I've seen a cross"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "on exotic material. NH7 explained to us,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "\"The cross is just symbolic of doing"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "more than what you would normally do to"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "raise the quantum frequency of this"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "planet. It feels as if everything I've"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "worked towards in pursuit of"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "intelligence has just melted away in the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "past few years. The technologies behind"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "zero point crafts are not difficult at"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "all. The average university physics"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "chemistry lecturer across most top tier"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "universities in Europe could recreate"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "the technology with the appropriate"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "knowledge. I was directly involved with"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "the construction of a zero point craft"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "using copper, not material non-native to"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "this planet."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Okay. Interesting that you bring up"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "copper. Copper also being used during"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "the Philadelphia experiment. If you look"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "into the Montalk project or um any of"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "the sort of archival Albeic interviews"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "where they were using these giant Tesla"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "coils to sort of disappear this"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "submarine and eventually have it time"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "travel or what have you. Copper seemed"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "to be an important part there. Original"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "4chan"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "whistleblower also said copper was very"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "important. Question. Wake up. The world"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "is so stupid it doesn't deserve to"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "change anything. I was where you stood"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "to see if it would change the world. And"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "then I realized it was a comedy loop"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "disguised as tragedy. And the funny"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "thing is that you and I used to believe"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "it was real. I don't know if you're"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "still there, but I'll tell you in"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "advance that there are many people who"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "also choose to stay silent and go out to"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "observe. They don't have time to play"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "these games anymore. If you're tired and"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "bored, just go out and sit. There are"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "still many empty seats. answer. I"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "believe in the human race. The incentive"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "structure is all wrong and society is in"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "a constant state of spiraling because"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "the of the lack of moral policing"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "between common people. It's not a top-"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "down problem. It's a bottom up. It will"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "take time, but I believe we will get"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "there if we are allowed to have enough"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "time for that to occur."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "There will be a great cataclysm in the"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "near-term future. The method of"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "deployment does not matter. certain"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "European countries have been working"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "with America to figure out how to"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "prevent it from occurring at all. This"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "is interesting because this comes off"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "the heels actually this is prior to an"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "announcement made by a bank. I read a"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "headline uh that some bank uh had a memo"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "you know how do we prepare in the"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "potential eventual case of alien"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "contact? How do we protect our assets or"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "whatever? So that was leaked I think"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "recently which was interesting and if"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "you're a company out there or a"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "financial institution I think you should"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "take those type of precautions"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "well at least address them um in the"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "event of zombie apocalypse in the event"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "of you know a giant EMP in the event of"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "nuclear disaster in the event of alien"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "invasion I think all of these things"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "should be discussed at least"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "an extent where you have some type of"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "plan put forward and you know the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "government already has those plans. Why"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "wouldn't the institutions that have"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "trillions of dollars also you know"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "prepare for that? I think that's uh I"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "think that's just a normal thing to do."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "What did NH7 look like? Did they say"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "anything truly unique? Okay, here we go."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "Prismata."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Prismata"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "with a Y."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "So, prismata, but often spelled with an"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "I, is a term with a few different"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "meanings depending on a context. Optics"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "and geometry, it's the plural of a"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "prism. Okay."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "Architectural and material science"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "refers to prismlike structural forms or"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "faceted crystallin shapes, especially"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "when describing light handling surfaces"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "and repeating geometric units. Okay. As"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "soteric and fringe usage, you'll see"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "prismata used as a madeup or symbolic"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "term to imply layers of perception,"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "facets of reality or ways information is"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "refracted through consciousness."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "That's interesting. That is That is"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "really interesting. I like that. I like"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "that word. I never directly saw NH7. We"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "were full-faced blindfolded before we"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "got into the room. Oh, wow. So, it was a"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "physical being. I could hear machinery"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "and a gentle clang periodically. There"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "was definitely a breathing pattern,"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "approximately one breath per 78 seconds."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "It sounded tired. Prior to the session,"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "I was told by one very elusive military"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "senior, Italian, uh, the purpose of the"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "session was to receive instructions on"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "what to do going forwards and to be as"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "open-minded as possible."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "There were seven others with me. All of"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "us had a silent understanding not to"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "speak to each other or to do anything"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "erratic. I did not recognize anybody and"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "I did not ask what branch they belong"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "to."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "I remember hearing slash experiencing a"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "very distinct knocking noise as we were"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "led into the room with NH7."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "It wasn't in my ears. It was directly in"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "my brain. The senior leading us kept"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "telling us to be open-minded and not to"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "be afraid. At one point, I was"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "physically seeing the space around me"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "while the blindfold was still on"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "in what seemed like ultraviolet leaning"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "colors."}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "I knew exactly where to walk."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "We took seats opposite NH7, the alien,"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "who told us he's been waiting for this"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "day for a very long time. His voice was"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "almost my own, playing in what felt like"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "my own brain. I was constantly shivering"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "through this process. I felt a strange"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "goosebump release before he would"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "communicate."}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "I saw the Earth spinning,"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "fire on the planet, great tsunami waves,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "and a light becoming incredibly bright"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "in the sky. It made me physically put my"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "hands up to block whatever was playing"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "in my mind. I'm in. I'm so in right now."}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "His purpose was to ensure this planet"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "would survive long enough for what was"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "written. There was to be no interference"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "in the growth of humans, for we were"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "going to be measured on the lapse of"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "protection period. A series of patterns"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "played out in my mind, most of which I"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "cannot link to anything yet, but have a"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "very clear mental visual of. He said we"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "were going to propagate those ideas"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "through the public."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "So this is very interesting because"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "you know a lot of abduction cases as"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "noted by John Mack and so many others"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "feature the experiencer describing"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "some type of cataclysmic event. I always"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "found it interesting that those type of"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "visions would be given to experiencers"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "who honestly couldn't do much about it."}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "Why even show them that? So for me, it's"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "always been some type of like scop. It"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "it has to be some type of scop to"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "control"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "the listener. But in this case, it's"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "interesting because, you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "this being isn't abducting anyone."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "that's essentially the abducted being"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "and still perveying these messages. Just"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "very interesting."}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "A select few will survive by habiting"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "other planets in our solar system. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "in response to this, the question is, I"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "don't know if you're new here or not,"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "but there is a debate about the possible"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "event of ships appearing and offer"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "salvation and whether if getting on them"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "is a trap or not. By the way, you seem"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "to be on the side of getting on them."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "But what are your thoughts if such a"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "thing would happen? Should we get on the"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "ships if they appeared and make an"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "offer?"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "I think we had this conversation with"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "the Udo Warana video, but let me know"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "what you guys think. If there was some"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "cataclysmic event and these ships all"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "appeared and said, \"You got to get on or"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "else you're all dead.\""}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "Are you"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "are you going down with the ship or are"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "you getting on their ship? That's the"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "question. I would love to hear your"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "answers on that. Wow. I think, man,"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "depending on my age, I I I'd probably"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "get on the ship. I'd probably get all I'"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "Man, hard to say. You know, we're so"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "familiar with being manipulated that it"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "makes it really a roll of the dice. Um,"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "be interested to hear your thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "that answer. Let's hear the OP's"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "thoughts."}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "I haven't heard of this, though I have"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "been living on a military site for a"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "while. I'm not sure, but I will be"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "actively thinking about this. I do not"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "think we are supposed to leave this"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "planet. We are the children of this"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "planet and should be protecting it as it"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "has given us everything we needed to"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "exist. To me, it feels like it would be"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "abandoning your mother during a warlike"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "attack. I would rather go down with the"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "ship, but in the face of whatever is"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "about to come, it might be the case that"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "even I would change my mind. That's a"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "sensible answer. Question doesn't"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "matter. Whitley Streber talks of trauma"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "on children being an evil worth going"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "through for the psionic gifts. The more"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "I dig into the Eselin Institute types,"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "the less difference I perceive between"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "them and Aquino tier monarchs practicing"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "cults."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "In fact, they are one and the same. The"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "Galactic Federation Luciferianism"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "adrenalizes children just like the"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "lizard freaks do. I look to Jesus and"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "reject you,"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "but tell us how you really feel."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "I would love to invite this guy for"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "Thanksgiving dinner. What a lively"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "conversation that would be. I was"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "brought onto the program via the gate"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "system in England. Okay, interesting."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "He's a gatechild. I know many of you"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "listening u were in that program as"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "well. Your postread skitso, but I am"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "well aware of the psionic nature of"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "these crafts. All quantum entities, what"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "people describe as consciousness, is"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "just the quantum wave having the ability"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "to self-express."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "Yeah. Okay. According to the NH7,"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "we exist to maximize the calculation of"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "this quantum wave to prevent overlap"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "from the existing quantum waves. A"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "positive quantum integer on this planet"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "is the net benefit of the cosmic field"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "leading to a future where we will be"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "allowed to live. If we do not have a"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "positive quantum integer, the population"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "will be culled to prevent our quantum"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "waves from negatively impacting the"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "state of the entire quantum wave. Think"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "of the quantum wave as a timeline,"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "though not entirely accurate. This is"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "really fascinating."}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "The molecular"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "biologist that essentially allegedly"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "dissected the aliens also said that he"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "was briefed uh very sparsely on their"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "culture. And one thing that he had"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "mentioned was this apotheiois, this"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "separation from God that essentially"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "these beings are using us to mine"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "experience to then feed consciousness,"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "the quantum field."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "until we reach an apotheiois, a critical"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "mass"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "after attaining, you know, as much"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "experience as we can, we're sort of"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "we're lifemaxing."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Um, and and what would that look like"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "once we get to the end of that? It's"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "interesting to think that the endgame of"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "that is simply to increase uh what the"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "OP put here as the positive integer in"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "order to"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "I don't know"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "outlast or out strengthen the competing"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "quantum timelines as he kind of puts it"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "here and that in order for us to survive"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "we legitimately have to raise or quantum"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "awareness or whatever. I mean, all very"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "complicated and I mean this this could"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "all be Narnia for as you know for all I"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "Question are there other species here at"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "this time and for how long would we have"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "to be on our own? Who is coming? Answer:"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "There are many. I've read reports saying"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "they have already set up shop to"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "capitalize as soon as protections"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "have expired."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "don't like that answer."}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "All right. In response to you will be"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "receiving receiving more secret"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "information on UAP over the next two"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "years, a gradual measure before the"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "grand reveal. Would you happen to know"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "more about this reveal? Will the"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "government reveal to the people some"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "good footage or will ET personally"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "reveal themselves to the people?"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "Answer. I want to answer this but do not"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "want to extrapolate. I don't think there"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "are government plans for anything right"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "now. I don't think they're in the loop"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "at all."}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "Whoa. That the government isn't in the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "loop. So, this gentleman here works for"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "something obviously outside of the"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "government, which would make sense. I"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "think government oversight would"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "probably result in a leak happening uh"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "at at the at the deepest core."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "You know, he's probably dealing with"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "like some unnamed faction of majestic,"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "you know, people. I don't know. Okay."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "Please tell us more about this entity."}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "What else did he say? Did he ever say"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "what species he is? What country were"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "you in when you spoke to him? What kind"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "of company were you working for? And if"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "it was a government, which one?"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "Now, he did mention that one of the"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "gentlemen talking to him was Italian."}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "And there is that sort of MJ12"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "equivalent Italian"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "sort of government that I believe who"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "was a part of that. It was"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "it was the GS33 I think it was called or"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "something of the sort but they"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "essentially um recovered the magenta"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "crash in 1933. But so maybe maybe that"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "answer I have detailed most above. The"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "most important points have already been"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "mentioned. The only thing I want to put"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "out there right now is the implication"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "of us effectively being naked for the"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "first time in a very long time. I cannot"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "begin to explain the terrifying nature"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "of what I felt when I was shown the"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "autonomous facility ceasing."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "It wasn't the disappearance that"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "frightened me most. It was knowing this"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "incredibly powerful entity will no"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "longer be watching us and protecting us"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "from god knows what. I can say I spent a"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "lot of time stationed in Italy and"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "Germany. I cannot give any details on"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "the rest. Okay. Um as I speculated."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "Now the other country that comes to mind"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "is Sweden. And I'll be doing I'll be"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "covering a read through on some"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "documents that were discovered"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "in"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "a fake a false bottom of a drawer in"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "Sweden that talked about a facility that"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "had these craft as well as some other"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "really interesting news. Sweden's got a"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "lot of I think buried UFO stuff that"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "probably"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "goes unnoticed and so Sweden would be my"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "guess here, especially with the way he's"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "talking."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "Question, what do you make of the whole"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "Titan disclosure story with Irma?"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "No idea, folks. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "rubbish you've been reading, but it"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "isn't applicable to anything that's"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "actually being stated in this thread."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "All right, moving on. Can we please get"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "anything to collaborate your information"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "corroborate? Uh, no BS. I was thinking"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "about posting my actual ID cards. Some"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "have very unique military symbols on"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "them, but I haven't made peace with that"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "decision yet. Some people have reached"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "out to me to publicize things"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "appropriately with certain legal"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "protections, but there's no such thing"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "when you work in this field. Well, I,"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "for one, offer you an open invitation. I"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "will fly you out to my studios. I will,"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "you know, we can have an interview and"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "I'll keep all your information anonymous"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "if you'd like. Reach out to me, find a"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "way to get in touch through Reddit,"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "through my Discord, through some place"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "and let's have a conversation if you're"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "willing to put your ID out there. I"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "mean, I'm willing to Yeah, I'm willing"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "to give you a platform."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "Uh, in response to I don't think there"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "are any government plans right now. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "question, what do you suspect might"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "happen on 2027? All right, something we"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "all want to know."}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "Answer: I don't know about any concrete"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "timeline, but the lapse of our"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "autonomous facility is definitely"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "happenings happening soon. The evidence"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "is basically pointing to imminent"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "closure."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "There it is. There's that word. With"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "some of the crafts being released quite"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "literally unfinished due to lack of"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "resources. There's a jellyfish UFO which"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "is quite literally an unfinished sphere"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "type lacking the capacity to completely"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "cloak itself as other crafts do."}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "Gravitational distortion out of human"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "color spectrum light emissions. There"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "are spheres being released that barely"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "have the ability to propel themselves."}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "Never mind any ability to cloak/gather"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "information. It wouldn't surprise me if"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "all of this is projected to happen in"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "2027."}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "Question: Tell me all the evidence you"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "have of the facility closing. How"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "familiar are you with other leaks? There"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "have been some big leaks about this"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "facility existing in the Bermuda"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "Triangle. Tell me the most convincing"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "thing you have physically seen yourself."}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "How do you know you aren't receiving a"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "SCOP? Great question from a"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "well-informed person here. The answer."}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "The evidence can be seen in now"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "declassified images of some of the"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "crafts themselves. You'll see how more"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "of them fail over time and come back to"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "this point to validate new information."}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "The facility had to use a lot of backup"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "resources during the New Jersey drone"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "encounters to protect this planet from"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "an imminent threat. The orbs that were"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "seen above America that day were"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "scanning for the hostile NHS and their"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "crafts."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "I'm not familiar with many other leaks,"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "but before making this post, I did give"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "it a quick search. The one I know to be"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "very real is the Bigalow 2009 2010 leak."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "Most communication to America via"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "European counterparts occurred through"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "that company. Probably referring to"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "NIDS. There was a leak about a tic tac"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "and some quantum ZPE"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "uh stuff."}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "I have physically handled exotic"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "material and built algorithms to have"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "the crafts move in autonomous ways,"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "intercepting a missile or avoiding"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "collisions on a somewhat randomly"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "instantiated route. The crafts we build"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "are hybrid digital/quantum in their"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "mechanistic functions, whereas the ones"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "truly exotic are 100% quantum."}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "I do not entirely understand how"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "communication occurs to these crafts"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "using ordinary waves. I've always known"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "gravity to bend spacetime, but the"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "quantum element here enables us to"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "imprint an intent on the craft itself to"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "accept certain rules, which almost"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "bypasses laws of the universe as we"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "currently understand them. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "Imprinting impressions into the craft is"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "wild. But I mean there is obviously some"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "type of non-physical integration"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "interface with these crafts"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "that probably has something to do with"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "the morphic field or you know our"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "brain's ability to pick up on the"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "quantum field and interface with it. But"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "so wild think about. All right we got a"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "big question here. Um and we're going to"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "have a big answer here. Okay. Okay, so"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "this is in I think five parts or six"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "parts this question. I'll humor you for"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "a bit OP. Seems like you are not"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "American if one were to judge how you"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "write. One,"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "what's the point of all this? I mean"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "this quite literally. What is the"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "literal point of having Earth being a"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "battleground?"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "If they wanted god-like status, why do"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "they not stop slashintervene in the"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "violence and pain people felt across"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "this planet? Centuries old facility only"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "exists to audit if other aliens are"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "coming to Earth. Two cosmic entities"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "coming to Earth to me seems like all of"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "NATO versus the entire zebra population."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "What could the average person do to"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "protect themselves?"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "As it would be implied, they have"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "technological strength that far exceeds"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "anything we could possibly engineer."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "Three, from a mathematical point of"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "view, if what you say is true, then"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "aliens have been here since the very"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "creation of humanity. Under this train"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "of thought, Earth is probably in the"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "territory of another larger, more"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "advanced species that has colonized the"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "Milky Way galaxy. So, why would all the"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "alien races come here when they can just"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "go to the source for whatever they want?"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "Four. With the amount of Earthlike"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "planets in the universe, why come here?"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "If they are so technologically advanced,"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "couldn't they just invent what they"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "lack?"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "Five. Approximately one breath per 78"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "seconds. You counted this. Six. What"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "purpose exactly does a positive or"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "negative quantum wave mean? How is this"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "a concern? These are great questions."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "And and you know much like the question"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "I had was like why can't you just invent"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "whatever it is you're lacking if you're"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "so advanced"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "just figure it out right"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "answer. I am not American born in"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "England but spent all of my years across"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "Europe. I have been to America for a"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "number of reasons associated with my"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "work."}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "There is no purpose to the earth having"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "been a battleground for other species."}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "According to a report I read in a"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "classified setting, no alterations"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "beyond first iteration on a species"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "benevolent to this planet, in order to"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "maintain their quantum fields as"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "positive as possible, they have to"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "banish people from their societies who"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "sometimes set up shop on other planet"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "for their own purposes. Earth was just"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "in a state of growth, enabling some NHS"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "to effectively do whatever they wanted"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "to an emergent population with no"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "knowledge of quantum fields. Some of"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "these cases have resounding implications"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "to this day. It's quite literally a case"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "of an exotic species just here for their"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "own leisure until another species,"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "benevolent, discovered what was"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "happening here."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "Not sure I totally get what the answer"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "to that question is, but it seems to me"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "as though they're also simply sort of"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "monitoring"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "whatever's going on here. It's not just"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "technological strength. Some of these"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "beings can quite literally imprint"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "thoughts into you, expand the capacity"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "of your brain to see with a blindfold"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "on, etc., and much more. It's quite"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "literally the ability to manipulate what"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "we know as spaceime using nothing but"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "their own thoughts."}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "Yeah, that would make you like God,"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "wouldn't it? I've said this and I'll say"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "it again. If if you can make someone"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "hear a voice in their head, maybe their"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "own voice as loud as you're hearing me"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "now or the voice of God or whatever it"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "may be, and that voice starts telling"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "you"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "all sorts of strange things."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "Many people will believe it's the truth"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "after obviously getting a psych"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "evaluation. Um, you'll you'll start to"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "to question reality because of it"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "because it is now a new truth. you are"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "now being presented something that you"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "didn't consider to be possible. And the"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "result is if that is possible, what else"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "is possible? And so you're going to"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "start to listen to a lot of these uh"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "voices and and if you had the ability to"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "do that, you could potentially Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "manipulate an entire species. To what"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "end, though, right?"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "NHS differ vastly in their requirements"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "for continuity. Everything is still a"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "resource game. There's no such thing as"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "a perfect exchange, but we can get"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "fairly close to it. The ability to"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "collapse spacetime in front of a craft"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "to accelerate to hyper speed actually"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "takes very little resources. But"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "extrapolate this to human purposes to"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "understand this approach. Would somebody"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "want to travel in the first place?"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "The real value is in the extraction of"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "life. Specifically, the ability to gain"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "further understanding on why this grand"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "algorithm we call life has propagated in"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "its way throughout the cosmic quantum"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "field. It's not just in humans, but in"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "plants and atomic structures, too."}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "All of quantum fields have a signature."}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "The expression of our planetary quantum"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "field is the culmination of every single"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "imprint of life on this planet. It"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "includes everything from flowers,"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "insects to macro entities as us humans"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "with the caveat of our thoughts also"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "participating in the projected equation"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "etc. We are not the skin we see on other"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "humans, but instead we are the"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "culmination of the macro process where"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "the micro entities, cells, and anatomic"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "structures interact with cosmic field"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "instantiated design patterns with a"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "variability factor of the brain"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "expressing itself as the primary organ"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "of the quantum field. This way, humans"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "fit the design pattern of the universe"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "while still being able to contribute to"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "the state of the quantum wave. Whoa,"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "that is that's an amazing thought right"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "there. Um, much like what we covered"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "with that molecular biologist, the idea"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "that you know you your macrophysical"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "reality is a result of thought,"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "we are all just a mental projection"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "the quantum field itself. We are"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "consciousness expressing itself in what"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "is perceived to us as a physical"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "reality. In that physical reality, it is"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "layered because then we have these"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "thoughts that are seemingly our own"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "which then affects the physical reality"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "which then in turn probably, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "affects the quantum field once again. So"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "there is this"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "positive feedback loop constantly being"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "created in reality and getting more and"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "more complex. But again to what end? And"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "I think that might be the question that"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "all of these aliens have."}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "The question is very very deep indeed."}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "It's it's what is it? Why is it? I think"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "we touched on this at the top of the"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "episode, but we might be the resource or"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "at least part of"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "the process in mining the resource."}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "Maybe the resource is information"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "and we are mining it and they can"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "control how we mine it in a more"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "efficient way. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "Think of it as an infinite number of"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "builders/road"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "workers building a continuous road in"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "front of them. Instead of using any form"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "of aggregate, the fuel for this is the"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "variability and macro signature of every"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "single builder on the road. More"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "expression is directly proportional to"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "the size and length of the road. In"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "parallel to our road, there are other"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "roads trying to occupy as much space as"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "possible. Two roads cannot collide"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "without one inheriting the state of the"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "other road."}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "Okay. So, may the more complex state of"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "reality"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "win. I guess the greater the positive"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "state of the quantum wave, the stronger"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "the overlapping process is. The quantum"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "wave process is not happening in"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "three-dimensional space and is pioneered"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "by a select number of high integer niche"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "who ultimately decide which field"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "expressions should exist for the greater"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "continuity of the quantum wave. You can"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "think of this as almost a competition"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "between quantum waves. The wave which"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "has the strongest positive state wins"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "over the other waves. Our future"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "continues while the losing quantum wave"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "is ingested and energy is recycled for"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "deployment for new variability"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "calculations for the inevitable"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "overlapping with future quantum waves"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "etc."}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "Do you guys have you guys ever seen um"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "Loki the show the series on Disney? It's"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "an amazing series because it deals with"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "like alternate timelines, past and"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "present, future events, and but also at"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "one point it deals with seemingly at one"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "point these uh these these giant like"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "overseers sitting on these thrones and"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "they're they're the ones who are"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "controlling the main timeline"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "and uh which ends up being an illusion"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "and whatnot, but that's essentially what"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "he's saying here is that the there are"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "these overlookers. You know, it makes"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "you wonder what's what's looking over"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "them. You know,"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "as soon as there's someone controlling"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "something, it adds this infinite"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "variable where there has to be somebody"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "controlling it."}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "Where's the end? Is this the end of"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "that? Are the beings just always they've"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "been around forever?"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "Kind of breaking my brain here."}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "Question. This sounds incredible."}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "Is this the hidden truth that the public"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "should not know?"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "If the truth is this abstract, why not"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "just tell the public and have people"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "start being good to each other? Answer:"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "I think the hidden truth is more about"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "our capabilities with zero point energy."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "Nobody should be paying for bills right"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "now. We can close shop on the entire"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "energy industry complex. Not more"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "drilling for oil, no more paying for"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "electricity or water, etc. Also, I know"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "certain American companies previously"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "forced scientists to sign death waiverss"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "in exchange for effectively infinite"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "support for their families."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "Question: dude, what was the threat?"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "Answer, I don't know the specifics. I"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "just know it was an event which forced"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "the facility to expend most of its"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "remaining resources. Would not surprise"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "me if it was a purposely calculated"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "event to force cessation itself."}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "question. So, was consciousness/life"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "imitated on this planet when the bad NHS"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "arrived? Or in other words, did their"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "consciousness trigger ours by their mere"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "presence on Earth? Also, did their"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "malevolent consciousness add to why"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "humans are partially malevolent and"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "evil? Or is that just the basic nature"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "of consciousness? It's a deep question."}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "Answer. This is a good question."}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "Personally, I have no idea, but I am"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "aware of the Vatican holding an archive"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "on the history of all religious"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "experience on this planet. If things"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "were sprung into motion, then I would"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "imagine it would be in that collection"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "of documents."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "Obviously, obviously, obviously,"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "you know, having access"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "and knowing where to look in the Vatican"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "archive would be a huge help in all of"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "Part of the difficulty in that is that"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "even people who have access"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "the Vatican, you need to request access"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "to certain things. So, you have to you"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "just have to even know what you're"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "looking for. It's vast, man. It is a"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "vast archive."}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "Question. The only thing I want to know"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "more about is the meeting with the a"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "alilo. All right. That's probably alien."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "OP. What happened? Where did you meet"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "it? Answer. We went through a corridor"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "into a very large elevator. It was"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "almost spotless. Even the button sounded"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "a satisfying click when I saw the senior"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "press the button. We went down for what"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "felt like 5 minutes. I remember after 20"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "or 30 seconds had passed. There was a"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "nervous laugh in the elevator. We must"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "have been incredibly deep."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "We felt the air get hotter very quickly."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "We entered a large open space. There was"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "a large metallic table with large almost"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "bare-sized scratch marks on one side and"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "papers on the other. It was through"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "another room. Here we were blindfolded."}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "All right. Interesting little detail"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "about the bayer scratches. Okay."}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "Question. UAP's total slight of hand."}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "It's not where the true power lies."}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "Answer. The implication here is UAPs"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "being product of development on this"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "planet. I can understand. During my main"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "project on boarding in Germany, I saw a"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "classic UFO saucer with the swastika on"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "it. I think this technology has been"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "solved for a while. We might be the"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "remainder civilization trying to play"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "catchup."}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "My last post for a bit. I need a break."}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "I have things to sort out. All"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "right, we've got a little bit of an"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "update as he comes back"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "after which there will be a second part"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "to this read through which I think we'll"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "save for another time. So far, very"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "interested. I am I am loving this. I"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "think it's awesome. It's I'm a big fan"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "of science fiction and if you take it as"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "fiction, it's a lot of fun. If you take"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "it as truth, you know, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "hide in a small ball in a fetal position"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "under your blanket. But um yeah, I think"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "the former is suggested."}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "A little while later. Hello all. Thank"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "you for your patience. I am back though"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "something very strange has happened. One"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "of my information distribution contacts"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "reached out to me and brought my"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "attention to the recent BASS leak. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "the Bass leak. That's what I meant. The"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "NIDS thing with uh Bigalow."}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "It's of some high importance to me"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "because I know the original leak to be"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "absolutely true based on communications"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "we've had in the past. The part which"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "sticks out is the screenshot of the new"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "leak is of a document mentioning the"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "voice highlighted and the phrase"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "sessation of RF energy."}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "There's no reason for the voice to be"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "highlighted here in a document released"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "immediately after my disclosure. It's"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "been stated it might be a direct message"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "to me given the details disclosed"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "yesterday. The post further states"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "Alzando visits Corbel's home to train"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "him. Corbel is one of the people within"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "my reach for disclosure of all"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "This is putting a stop to almost all of"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "that decision-making process and will"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "likely put a stop to the same process"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "for others around me."}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "I am and you all should also be well"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "aware of America's involvement in the"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "removal of assets from foreign"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "countries. I am also aware of the"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "closure of laboratories to prevent"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "exotic material from being studied."}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "Whether the mentioned individual"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "Stratton is responsible, I am unsure."}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "Okay. Interesting. We have names here."}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "Corbel, Stratton, Alzando. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "where that puts, you know. Does that"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "give you higher conviction or lower"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "conviction when names like this are"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "involved? I think it's interesting"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "question. Isn't transcendental"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "meditation all about trying to connect"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "to this fundamental layer? How does one"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "connect to the broader field? Answer."}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "Meditation of any kind works by driving"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "your bofield towards its lowest tooidal"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "igen mode. Suppressing smaller"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "oscillations oscillations so that"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "whatever sits close to nonzero veing"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "the mantra forces your local phase into"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "a stable pattern. Collapsing your"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "personal FTM"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "uh into ground state coherence. to that"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "point. Any tiny fluctuation in the field"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "will drive proportional phase shift."}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "TLDDR quiet your then any matching wave"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "in the universal field can reach you."}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "TLDDR TLDDR uh meditation"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "is magical."}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "Take it from me."}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "By the way, I do feel like the answers"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "are for the most part inconsequential."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "As a researcher, as a magician, I can"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "tell you firsthand that knowing the"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "answer is not going to not going to"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "provide any type of resolve."}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "It will, if anything, disappoint you to"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "know the method to how things work and"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "get those answers, you know, will"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "essentially destroy"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "some of that wonder in that case. In the"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "case of UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "you get the answer. It might not be the"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "answer you're looking for. The journey"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "obviously itself is the answer, right?"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "It's it's there that we enter flow"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "states. It's there that we enter these"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "passionfueled obsessions. It's there"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "that we create original and unique"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "thoughts and and art. You know, that is"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "the answer. It's it's the process"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "that is everything."}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "Um, for some reason and probably to"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "enable the process, we are internally"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "seeking that answer. But again, we're"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "probably only seeking that answer,"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "trying to attain that goal in order to"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "fuel the process and not the other way"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "around. We don't have this obsessive"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "process to get to the end so that we"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "have the answer. The answer exists as a"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "carrot on a stick so that we continue to"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "fuel"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "these thoughts and these you know"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "experiences."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "Meditation to me"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "seems to be the non-physical"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "microscope"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "that we need in order to observe the"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "fundamental particles of reality."}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "You're not going to get it by staring"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "down a microscope, but you will start to"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "understand it perhaps through deep"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "introspection and transcendental or out"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "of body or, you know, astral projection"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "or that type of experimentation."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "It always comes down to it. You know,"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "when you when we get into the weeds of"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "UFO lore,"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "it always always every single time"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "without failure boils down to"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "consciousness. And our only"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "access to it isn't through scientific"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "paper. It isn't through traveling at the"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "speed of light. It is through"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "introspective"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "calming of the mind. it it perhaps"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "there's a shortcut a more chaotic and"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "uncontrollable shortcut through"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "substance uh use but there is a"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "controlled way of doing it. It takes"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "practice and we're given all these"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "physical items and and and stimulations"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "in order to distract us from that truth."}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "The truth is that yeah, if you do"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "practice these things, you will end up"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "facing some type of magical reality that"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "you had not expected and that is right"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "there and that you're a part of. And and"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "I felt it and that's the only way I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "I'm I'm that's the only reason I'm being"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "preachy about it is cuz like you don't"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "know until you till you do it, man. If"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "you haven't done it, don't knock it. Say"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "whatever you want. say say fake, say"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "scop, say all these things. But if you"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "haven't given three or four months of"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "your life to trying to just get to that"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "point where you could leave your body or"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "whatever, then like you know you're I"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "don't think you're well informed."}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "But people who have felt that who felt"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "those things and you know might take"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "longer might not take as long for other"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "people to achieve that state of altered"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "But like it changes everything, man."}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "Fundamentally, it really does. So, I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "really happy to hear that at least this"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "person is like, \"Oh, yeah. It's a big"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "deal.\" Like a big deal. In fact, it is"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "the deal."}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "It's how we access it. And who knows,"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "maybe these NH"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "live in that field that we can only get"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "to through, you know, months of and"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "years of devotion. Uh they just kind of"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "have access to it all the time. And it's"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "the reason why we would see some of"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "these beings during these DMT trips,"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "during dreamlike states, during astral"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "projection, during abductions."}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "The non-physical in all likelihood is"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "reality and we're just experiencing some"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "weird"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "reflection or"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "I don't know some some projection of it."}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "I digress very deeply, but this this is"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "cathartic and it's fun to it's fun to"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "talk about this stuff. I really love it."}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Question. When does this underlying"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "consciousness attach to the DNA signal?"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "Interested in that implication. Thanks."}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "Good question. Answer. When zygote DNA"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "coils form a Taurus and cells oscillate"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "in unison. The bofield locks onto the"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "global uh via those tooidal modes. Once"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "all higher oscillations vanish, only the"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "basic Taurus remains. Consciousness"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "tunes in. So at the formation of the DN"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "DNA helix, I assume"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "only seem superficially both 1D like"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "loops but ultimately different NPCs"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "postulate tiny vibrating strings"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "or higher dimensional brains as the"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "basic entities"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "then build spaceime and particles on top"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "of that. In reality, there is only one"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "active scalar field with a tachionic"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "drive to self-condense and stable"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "objects that emerge are tooidal solutons"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "that generate both particles and"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "space-time geometry through their phase"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "structure and naturally account for"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "gauge interactions, gravity, etc. Not"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "going to pretend I understood any of"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "that, folks. I'm not uh"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "let me just pull this up here."}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "We take a picture."}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "I'm going to send that through to uh my"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "little friend here, Chad GPT, and we'll"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "say what he says here. All right. Can"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "you break down that paragraph that I"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "sent you as if I was a sixth grader?"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "Absolutely. Let's turn that big brainy"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "paragraph into something a sixth grader"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "could totally get. So basically the"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "paragraph is talking about how when a"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "cell's DNA kind of twists up into a"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "donut shape. Yep. Imagine a DNA donut."}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "It's like the cell is tuning into a"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "bigger universal radio station. And when"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "everything lines up just right, that"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "cell can basically get a signal from"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "this big universal field of"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "consciousness. In other words, it's kind"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "of like the DNA is a little antenna. And"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "once it's in that doughut shape, it can"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "pick up a universal Wi-Fi signal. That's"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "the gist."}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "What? Okay. What does uh gravity have to"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "do with it? There he he mentions like"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "geometry and gravity and phase structure"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "and and what does all that mean?"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": ">> All right, let's break that down too and"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "keep it sixth grade friendly. So, the"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "writer is basically saying that when you"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "get these cool little DNA donut shapes"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "or whatever shape they're talking about,"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "you're actually dealing with some sort"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "of pattern or geometry that's linked to"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "how the universe works. And when they"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "talk about gravity or phase structure,"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "they're just adding a bit of extra"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "sciency flavor to say, \"Hey, these"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "shapes or patterns might explain how"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "things like gravity or the fabric of"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "space kind of fit together.\" In other"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "words, they're saying these funky DNA"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "shapes might not just pick up a"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "consciousness signal. They might also"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "have something to do with how the"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "universe's invisible rules like gravity"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "and geometry are all tied up together."}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "It's a bit like saying the shape of"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "something can explain why things fall"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "down or how space is put together."}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:15", "text": ">> That's kind of crazy."}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "That's kind of crazy. I like that."}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "Last question here. Why blindfold you?"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "You should have been allowed to make"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "judgment with your own eyes in the truth"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "of this being."}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "What did its energy feel like? Example,"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "heavy, oppressive, peaceful, joyous. Did"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "you instinctually recoil internally"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "before it spoke? Answer: Humans are"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "accustomed to judging by visual stimuli"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "and really opening their mind to what"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "could truly have constructive value for"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "yourself."}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "We should get used to approaching things"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "blindly much more often in order to open"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "ourselves to new things. the the"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "self-induced to understand what self is,"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "to understand what all others are, to"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "understand that empathy is the key to"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "And whoa,"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "this guy's dropping all sorts of"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "philosophical bombs on us. And uh I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "here for it. I think, you know, if not"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "written by GPT, it is eloquently put. I"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "I will say I had like, you know, I was"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "following maybe 90% of what he was"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "saying. It did end up being a little"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "jargony. Um but I don't know if that,"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "you know, it sounded like he was getting"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "excited because he could finally speak"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "in terms that he was sort of comfortable"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "talking"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "um talking with, but"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "I don't know what to make of it. We do"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "have another half here. This is like uh"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "another Q&A about this guy and he shows"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "up later on. I think this"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "came up on Reddit or something like he"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "popped back up on or something. I'm not"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "entirely sure. I want to I want to take"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "a break. I want to hear your thoughts. I"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "want to,"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "you know, does this gel with what we"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "know. Are there any connections that I"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "missed with other"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "sort of leaks and quote unquote"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "whistleblowers?"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "How does this sit with the council that"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "was mentioned by Jeremy Weekes? It does"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "sort of ring a bell. It does talk about"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "an imminent invasion and uh about our"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "protectors trying to warn us or"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "weaponize us against something that"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "might be coming. But then again, we hear"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "this 2027 sort of imminent date"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "and you can't help but think Project"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "Blue Beam or are they trying to sigh up"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "us so that the government can finally"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "have this one world order which I think"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "you know is is it really the worst thing"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "in the world at this point? Um"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "I don't know. I don't know what to make"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "of all this. Much like all of you, I"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "tend to"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "be frustrated with the lack of concrete"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "evidence. And you know, I just want to"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "know, is it true?"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "Is any of this true? Any of it. Even the"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "smallest part of it. My gut says yes."}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "That there is a seed of truth to all of"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "this."}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "that the"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "tree might not look anything like the"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "seed anymore. And part of me,"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "a fleeting sort of transient part of me"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "thinks that"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "am I just being strung along? That could"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "be too. I'm not uh I'm not entirely"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "opposed to that idea. I think that might"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "be part of it as well. I don't know."}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "It's all very complex. But regardless,"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "I'm happy that I get to share it with"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "you guys and I'm happy that I have"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "someone here listening to my rants. To"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "be to be fair, it makes it less insane"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "that you guys are listening because if"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "you knew if you were here, you would"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "realize that there's nothing here. I am"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "talking to electronic objects."}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "I'm completely alone. This is, if these"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "cameras weren't here, insane."}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "So, thank you. Uh, and thank you cameras"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "for recording all of this and and audio."}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "I appreciate that, too. Got to thank our"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "AI overlords here. 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[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Hi, Chris. Uh, my name is Tim and I just"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "uh re listened to your number six"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "podcast episode and was really"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "interested and wanted to call on uh"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "February 21st of 2021. I was on American"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Airlines flight coming from Charlotte to"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Las Vegas. um either just before just"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "behind me at the exact same time coming"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "over New Mexico was an American Airlines"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "flight 2292"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "which you can reference um there is a"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "UFO report over New Mexico on that exact"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "date and the FBI took a report but while"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "I was on my plane like I said either"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "just before or just after um this flight"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "I observed a white cylindrical"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "object very similar to what you saw. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that looked like a piece of PVC piping"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "flying. [music] Um, I think we were at"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "about 35,000 ft and this was under us"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "thousands of feet. So, it was probably"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "5,000 ft off the ground flying in the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "opposite direction. Um, and I was able"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "to look directly down at it. It was very"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "close to [music] the Grand Canyon area."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Um, there was no wings, no propulsion,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "no rivets, no windows. Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "reported it to the uh, airline"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "attendant. And by the time I got back to"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "my hotel, there had been a UFO report"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "um, filed with the FBI."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "I appreciate all you're doing. Keep it"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "up."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Chris Ramsey and today we are going to"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "be taking yet another look at the story"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "of William Herman. Bill Herman in the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "late 70s came forward with literally the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "most amount of pictures of a UFO. And"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "not only that, the quality of the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "pictures were some of the clearest we've"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "ever seen of a flying saucer. These"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "beautiful"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "silver discs being lit up during the day"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "are not something we're normally"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "uh seeing a lot of. Normally, we get"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "these grainy, blurry nighttime shots."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Even today with the 4K cameras and the"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "8K footage and the night vision and the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "just all the technology on our side, we"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "still have yet to capture"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "such amazing quality of UFOs as the"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "likes of Bill Herman. Now, Bill Herman"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "had done a regression and as many of you"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "know, we kind of left off in a"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "cliffhanger. 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We paid the bills."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Let's get into reading some more of this"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "contact from Reticulum."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "The story of Bill Herman, but not only"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Bill Herman, his friend Tony, was it"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Tony Parker?"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "I believe it was, uh, who who had also"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "subsequently apparently been abducted by"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "the same beings and they said Tony was"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "cool. We're going to take him, too. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "all obviously sounds incredibly"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "far-fetched and I'm not entire like my"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "conviction level on this isn't"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "isn't extremely high. I do find it"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "interesting. Obviously, these photos are"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "incredible. I own the rights to the ones"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "that you're seeing now on the screen,"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "which still blows my mind. And we'll be"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "making those available uh for the public"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "in the form of prints and postcards and"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "whatnot, so you guys can also, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "sort of hang that up in your office or"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "what have you. But yes, this is an"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "incredible story, almost unbelievable."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "And when you look at the online um"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "videos that exist of interviews"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "featuring these witnesses or even the"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "regression tape that's made available"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "publicly,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "I don't know what to make of it. His"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "body language seems a little off to me,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "but it's hard for me to tell whether or"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "not that's something related to, you"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "know, him being nervous about lying or"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "him being nervous about the fact that he"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "was taken by aliens. And both, if you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "were to ask an expert, would kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "look identical. So, it does make it hard"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "to discern. Nonetheless, we continue to"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "[music] suspend our disbelief as we"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "delve into this story. Where were we?"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Like this video, subscribe, hit the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "notification bell while you're at it,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "while I'm looking for this stuff here. I"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "think we were in the updated version."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Oh, yeah. He was given a piece of metal"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "as well. This piece here. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "bring it up on the screen. Kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "incredible. Once again, what happened"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "with this piece of metal? We have yet to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "find out. So, we ended off um with the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "fall. By the way, if you guys are fans"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "of this shirt, uh this is Area 52"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "branded Invisible College. We got a"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "whole collection coming of Invisible"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "College merch, which I'm really excited"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "about. Uh but this won't be launching uh"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "right away. This is a bit of a sneak"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "peek, but if if you want to see the rest"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "of the collection, let me know uh in the"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "comments and maybe we'll uh we'll end up"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "sharing some of that with you guys"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "prematurely on our Instagram,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Area52 Investigations."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Ah, yes."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "So, we left off uh where he says, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "going on out. I'll call you later.\" As"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "as this UFO appears outside, he hung up"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the phone and left me standing there,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "dimly realizing that this was the first"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "in eupfology. A witness had just"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "informed me that he is going out to meet"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "an extraterrestrial spacecraft."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "A ship from another world, and I am to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "patiently wait for his return. I looked"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "at the clock. It was 12:25, Charleston"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "time. My worries had only begun. I"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "immediately called John Fielding in New"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "York to advise him of the stupendous"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "event, actually taking place as we"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "talked. It was mind-boggling. I told him"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "of my assurances to Bill and asked him"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "to back me up on the promises, which he"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "readily and promptly agreed to."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "He said he could be in Charleston by"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "noon the next day if need be. He said he"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "would call some friends for more backup"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "if we needed it."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "I thought that was a good idea and"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "agreed to do the same. My anxiety about"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "what might be happening consumed me. I"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "tried Bill's telephone number to see if"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "he backed out of the opportunity or not."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "He was not too enthusiastic when it came"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "time to go. Maybe it was only a sighting"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "event. Maybe he had gotten some more"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "photographs of the ship."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "We didn't have any night photos. The"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "phone rang and rang. No answer."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "He must still be out there."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "I hung up my phone and went to the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "refrigerator. I ate and paced the floor"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "in my house, wondering what was going"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "on. Another half hour passed. I tried"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Bill's phone again. [music] Still no"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "I tried again, a half hour after that,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "and again, every half hour following. In"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "between those calls, I contacted"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "benefactors who had helped me out in the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "UFO investigations before."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "I found no lack of support, and within"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "two hours, I could have backed up my"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "promise several [music] fold. I kept"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "calling and was becoming elated over the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "possibility that he had decided to"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "undertake a longer trip with them this"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "time, if he had gotten aboard. I was"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "well prepared to put the plan in motion"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "by 6:00 a.m. if I failed to make contact"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "with him before then."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "At about 4:40 a.m., I received a call"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "from Bill Herman in Charleston. He"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "gotten home about 20 minutes before then"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "and made a picture of Kool-Aid and a few"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "notes and had then made this call."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Not the first thing I would have done"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "after being dropped off by aliens."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Um, but who knows? Maybe that's exactly"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "what I'd be craving is a picture of"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Kool-Aid."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "He gotten aboard. All right. He had"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "followed the glowing object in his car,"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "taking telepathic directions from the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "ETSs to an abandoned sand quarry. There"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "he came to a stop and parked his car and"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "got out."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "The now dimly luminous flying object"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "approached to within 10 [music] to 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "above the pit area. The dark silver"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "object stopped about 50 ft away. It was"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "slowly rotating in a counterclockwise"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "direction. The circular halo of silver"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "orange light stood off a little from the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "under surface of the metallic looking"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "machine. He became apprehensive and"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "wanted to run but he was unable to do"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "so. Then he felt something telling him"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "to relax and he trustingly was able to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "do as requested."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Then a beam of aquamarine light extended"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "slowly from the side of the disc near"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "the bottom and he felt himself being"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "tugged upward."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "He was determined to remain aware of"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "everything this time and he succeeded in"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "doing so to a point. But then despite"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "his determination,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "he went through a period of semi"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "darkness"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and then he was awake. So this is"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "interesting as you see in the depiction"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "here and this is March 18th 1978"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "you know uh 3 years after the famed"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "abduction of Travis Walton but"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "a a similar picture is being depicted"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "where he's kind of being"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "beamed up so to speak. I wonder you know"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "this must be one of the earliest cases"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "of the sort of tractor beam effect"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "happening to an abductee."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Aquamarine was also the color I think"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "the blue light uh that he remembered"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "initially from his first um abduction"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "experience."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "He was lying down on the same table as"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "before and the flashing of the bar of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "lights above was slowing down. Three of"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "those same extraterrestrial beings were"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "standing by him just to his right."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Immediately he recognized them. They"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "were the same ones he had seen before."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "He tried to sit up but couldn't. He"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "still felt disoriented."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "He lay there a moment and just as he"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "started to ask about this confusion,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "everything came into focus and he"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "recovered complete normality again."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "The one who seemed to be in charge"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "mentioned for him to sit up and then he"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "spoke. Bill could hear him clearly, but"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "his lips didn't move."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Herman noticed a small emblem on the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "left breast of his one-piece suedelike"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "suit. It looked like a serpent standing"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "on its tail with wings."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "The voice was very similar. These were"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "the same occupants as those of the 18"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "March 1978 abduction. He felt relieved."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Oh, hold on. So, this depiction"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "is of the 18th of March. I see. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "He wanted to hold everything there and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "demand an explanation. He experienced a"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "surge of hysteria as he thought, \"No one"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "will ever believe this. No one.\" The"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "voice of the leader relaxed and calmed"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "him down."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "After much time, we meet again. We have"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "initiated this contact for reasons and"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "will explain. Come. You may be at ease."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "We trust the air you breathe is adequate"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "and you are acceptant of our presence."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "In this you have shown indication and"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "promise."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Bill looked around. Everything was the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "same as before. The bar of lights, the"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "curved walls, the examining table, the"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "doorway. But the box on wheels was"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "missing and nowhere to be seen. That was"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the only thing that was different. He"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "thought to himself, \"This must be the"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "same object.\" And to his surprise, the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "leader said, \"Yes, this is the same"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "vehicle as before, assigned to this"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "geographical sector. We will be"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "traveling for a short amount of time"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "together. We trust the time and the"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "experience will not upset or disturb"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "your activities.\" We did not come at a"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "disagreeable time. We thought it was"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "agreeable."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "We walked out of the We walked out of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "the room into This is wild. Could you"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "imagine for a second if this is real?"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Like, how would you react in this"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "scenario? I suppose, you know, you kind"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "of asked for it. You've got no choice"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "but to play along."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "We walked out of the room into the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "hallway and turned left. Everything was"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "the same, the walls, the floors, the"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "lighting, everything. We walked into the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "control center and the room occupied by"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "the three other individuals. It was"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "alive with activity. I walked toward the"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "checkerboard of flashing lights. The"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "blocks of the checkerboard were"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "comprised of hundreds of little dots"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "raised and forming a square."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "The knobs and levers seemed to consist"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "of [music] plexiglass material, almost"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "crystal in appearance. The tracks the"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "chairs were on were similar to aluminum,"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "and the tubular instrument looked like"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "crystal and copper combined together. I"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "looked all around the room and was"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "amazed by the organized and sterile"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "looking environment. Everything was so"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "clean, so new."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Okay, before we read on, I want to pause"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "here and look at this little image. We"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "have very what seems like extremely high"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "techch equipment for the time."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Nonetheless, still reminiscent of a 70s"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "depiction of a science fiction"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "um scene or scenario."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "The writing above the door, as you see"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "here, which might be addressed, looks,"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "you know, not dissimilar from the"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "writing that he was sort of throwing"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "down on paper uh during those automatic"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "writing sessions. Their arms seem"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "incredibly long, too, don't they?"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "the scanning of the chest. This is"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "something that comes up quite a bit, but"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "I I I can't help but see this whole"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "picture"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "might be how you would depict"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "this environment in that time."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Now, either one, this is some type of"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "figment of Bill's imagination for"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "whatever reason, whether he knows it or"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "not. two,"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "aliens technology is evolving alongside"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "ours, which would explain the retro"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "sci-fi look here. Or three, maybe the"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "aliens"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "created this scene in order to sort of"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "sigh up our friend William here into"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "thinking that this is indeed, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "some alien ship when maybe the reality"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "of it is much simpler or something. I"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "don't know. All very interesting."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Obviously, you know, AAM's razor points"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "to this is imaginative, but what if it"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "isn't?"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "So, it says here under the photo, after"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "his first involuntary abduction aboard"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the extraterrestrial spaceship in a beam"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "of coherent bluish white light, Bill"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Herman woke up lying on an examining"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "table with a bar of blinking colored"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "lights above him slowing down and three"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "very strange little humanlike creatures"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "in the room staring at him. They all"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "were wearing one piece dark reddish body"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "fitting suits like our winter underwear."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "He saw no buttons, snaps, or closures on"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "any of these little coverall suits."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "little beings were shutting down some"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "machinery, evidently used in the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "examination. He thought they looked a"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "little like overgrown fetuses. One of"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "them invited Herman to get down off the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "table and then took him on a tour of the"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "ship. So, also the rod he's holding is"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "very familiar. The suits being dark"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "orange fits a description that, you"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "know, Travis Walton famously gave. I"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "asked Travis if there was emblems that"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "he remembers seeing and and he said no"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "insignia, no emblems of any kind that he"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "remembers. That was one of the things I"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "was looking forward to talking to uh"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Travis Walton about was Bill Herman's"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "case. And when I brought it up, Travis"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "seemed interested but to"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "I guess maybe just a little um I don't"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "know how to put it, but he's been he's"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "been talking about his own story for 50"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "years. and and I I he almost seemed"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "uninterested in in everything uh"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "regarding UFOs, his story um included."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "I don't know. I guess maybe after 50"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "years I'd feel a little saturated as"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "well. The leader seemed to be watching"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "my reaction. He spoke. We were very"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "upset by the near collision with the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Earth aircraft when it was vetored into"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "our magnetic field. We were content. No"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "loss of life was incurred. We were"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "impressed by the preventative measures"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "taken. We as well have taken the steps"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "to ensure the remoteness of a"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "reoccurrence."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "The activities of our vehicles at the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "bottom of your planet were given much"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "attention by those humans involved in"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "the sightings and activities. We were"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "rather amused at the explanations"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "offered."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "I wondered if he was referring to the"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "New Zealand UFO sightings and thought to"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "myself, I wonder if they know much about"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "Valent."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "I was very much surprised at the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "leader's next words. Yes, the pilot of"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "the aircraft is safe with our network at"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "his own desire and wish. It is up to him"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "to decide his return."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "Is it Frederick Valentic? The famous"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Australian pilot, a young man,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "not but I think early 20s who radioed in"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "this large object that was following"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "him, that was above him and kind of a"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "distress call when all of a sudden he"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "went missing and his plane was never to"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "be found again. Case opened and never"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "closed. The story of Frederick Valentage"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "is haunting, especially when you hear"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "the the tape."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "500"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "I'm not"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "airport."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "There's also this depiction in Close"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "Encounters of the Third Kind as near the"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "end of the movie there are a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "people sort of taken uh out of this"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "flying saucer and they you know they"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "seem to be dressed up as like young"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "pilots"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "um but time hasn't moved for them and I"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "wonder if one of those might be"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "representing"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "uh Valent who knows. So this is Bill"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Herman, by the way. This is Bill"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "Herman's thoughts that the being was"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "reading. This isn't Wendell Stevens."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "This So Bill Herman was very much aware"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "of UFO lore, I suppose, at least"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "as much as knowing the story of uh Fred"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Valantage here."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "So that does raise a little flag, I"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "suppose. A thousand questions filled my"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "thoughts. Your questions are many. Do"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "you wish them all answered? Do you wish"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "rather to see once again the instruments"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "and machinery that exist within this"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "craft? You are free to go wherever you"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "wish to go. Your questions are"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "compounded with your attempt at"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "comprehension. Very promising, very"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "indicative of your abilities."}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "What does that mean? Your questions are"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "compounded with your attempt at"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "comparison."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Sounds very poetic."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "After about 20 minutes, we left the"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "room, I was told, was the navigational"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "area. The leader reached out and touched"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "the scroll-like transparent sheets. He"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "raised a sheet and placed it up against"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "the screen."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "A cluster of multitudes of stars was"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "visible in 3D effect."}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "This is your solar system, your Milky"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Way. These are your planets. This is"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "your Earth. He touched a colored button"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "and the 3D image was blown up."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "The earth was transparent and the land"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "masses, oceans, lakes, rivers visible. I"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "was astounded."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "Another touch and cities were visible in"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "the screen."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Like flickering lights of candles. He"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "moved the sheets and then another"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "cluster and multitude of stars was"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "visible. He motioned to the left of the"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "sheet."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "The source of our origin, you humans"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "call reticulum, is situated as a small"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "diamond of stars midway between Canopus"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "and Corina"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "and Aenar and Aerodanis."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "Well, Aerodanis uh is that star that we"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "talked about with that whistleblower,"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "the 65,000 humans that were taken to a"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "separate planet as a bit of a test from,"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "you know, our creators, as it were."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "[gasps]"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "There are five stars in the"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "constellation Reticulum. We come from"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "two of them. A supernova implosion"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "occurred eons ago with implications"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "cataclysmic in proportion. A similar"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "implosion has been observed by human"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "astronomers in recent months."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "We too observed its movement. Come, we"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "will be meeting friends shortly."}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "Friends,"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "excuse me. We walked out of the room and"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "proceeded back to the control center."}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Another occupant walked past us in the"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "opposite direction. He seemed to be"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "going about his business. I looked back"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "at him and my eyes fell on his shoes."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "The shoes seemed pullover boots, a cross"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "between sneakers and boots. No laces, no"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "zippers, just pullover boots, pants"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "tucked into the top, military style."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "The same held true for the leader and"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "the others. As we walked into the"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "control room, the checkerboard was solid"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "silver in color."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "The leader motioned me to the desk on"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "the right of the panel. Cross between a"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "TV screen and an open window was located"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "in the center of the desk. The starllet"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "sky was visible and a silver disc of"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "light moved closer into view. It was"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "another object like this in flight only."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "It looked much larger, immense."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "The leader spoke matterofactly."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "Below you, you will observe a rendevous"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "with a similar observance vehicle. It"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "has come from an area you call South"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "America. You will immediately perceive"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "its size differential. It is conducting"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "experiments in hydrodnamics at a"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "location called the Salado River."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Humans in the city of Rosario observed"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "the ship on an experiment testing"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "activity. It was only observed for a"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "brief moment of time. And the sighting"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "will soon be forgotten, probably"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "identified and explained as an aircraft"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "from the area of Santa Fe."}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "Wait, what year was this?"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "78."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "I'll be right back."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Well, just so happens that in the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "auction that I previously talked about"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "in the last episode, I p, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "purchased a lot of these photos, there"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "was one from Santa Fe. Now, Santa Fe,"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "Argentina, 1977."}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "And, uh, yeah, sure enough, looks like"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "one of those top hat UFOs. something"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "that uh actually showed up quite a few"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "times in several photos that I have."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "Very interesting indeed."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "Also really cool that uh there's like"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "this 3D sort of effect that he keeps"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "talking about um with the console. I"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "think I don't know if that's too far"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "ahead of you know it's it's late 70s"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "early 80s. I mean, Isaac Azimoff has"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "pretty much uh rounded all the corners"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "in terms of what's possible in science"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "fiction, so this is nothing new in terms"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "of uh an idea. Amazed by the information"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "he told me, I looked at the size of the"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "ship and its shape. The stars moved"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "slowly past, almost at a crawl as the"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "two objects continued on. By two, I mean"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "the one I stood in and this larger disc."}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "The leader then walked a few steps"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "behind me and moved a chair just behind"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "me, seemingly for my comfort, and I"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "nodded, \"Thanks,\" and sat down. In vain,"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "or so it seemed, I asked once again,"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "\"Why show me?"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "If you only knew how many others wish to"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "see and confirm the things I see,\""}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "and I was just cut off, not rudely, but"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "patiently, almost with graciousness."}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "We have initiated this contact with you"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "for the benefit of those interested."}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "Your request to be placed near your"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "associate is considered inappropriate."}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "Perhaps at a later date. Yes, we will"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "continue our contact with you by way of"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "direct observance procedures, meaning"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "face-to-face contact is now. As I said"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "before, you manifest patience and"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "deliberation, qualities acceptable to"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "the network."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "You must, however, guard your actions."}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "There are those operatives within your"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "investigative organizations who work for"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "the suppression,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "who work not for your benefit, but"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "solely for your demise. They seek in"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "vain to destroy any chance or hope of"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "contact. You encountered those"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "operatives when the bar was car carried"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "by you to your associate. We were unable"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "to ensure his safety and you by your"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "deliberation ensured yours and the"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "information you received. The"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "intersectional data was preliminary to"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "much more to come. You will be a"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "benefit, a factor in future"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "preparations. By your actions and the"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "safeguarding actions of your associates,"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "you have done much to improve the"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "continued possibilities of contact. It"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "is not up to me, but rather will be left"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "up to the network consensus."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "You do have our recommendation and"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "support. Your associate whom you talked"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "with this night evening will observe our"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "vehicles in operation at a later date."}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "He will be notified. We have means to"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "notify those we wish to notify anytime,"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "anywhere."}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Patience will be his reward in regard to"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "the bar. We have been authorized to give"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "solely and without favor to you. It, as"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "was stated, is a gift of respect and"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "appreciation. You are one of the few to"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "receive such a bar. It has much value to"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "us though is regarded worthless to you"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "and when value is estimated according to"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "your primitive measure of comprehension."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "To decipher the meaning is to understand"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "our meaning."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "This all sounds I mean I I I'm not I'm"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "on the fence here cuz uh this whole like"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "you're the chosen one type deal is uh is"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "a little convenient. But also, I want to"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "know what happened to this bar. What's"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "going on? Did we miss a part? Did we"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "skip something? We're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "look into that after, folks. I wondered"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "aloud where we were. And as if to"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "answer, the leader spoke."}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "There is no need to in inculsate."}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "Inculcate. I really got to look up this"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "word. It keeps coming up here. Also, how"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "good is Bill Herman's memory that he can"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "recall an entire"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "briefing from this alien?"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "Oh, incleate"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "uncle Kate. Oh, you guys probably reamed"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "me in the last video. I I'm recording"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "this before even watch before the other"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "one's posted, so I probably"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "mispronounced that one and butchered it,"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "but we learned. And what does this mean"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "exactly?"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "Quick um word of advice for anybody"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "reading out there. This is good"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "practice. If you don't know a word,"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "don't pretend you know it. You're not"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "serving you're not doing anyone any"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "favors, including yourself. Look it up."}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "That's what it's there for. Uh teach and"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "impress by frequent repetitions or"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "values into young. Okay. Okay. So, just"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "like to repetitively teach someone is"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "tocate."}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "It's a good word. I might use it from"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "now on. Look for that word to appear on"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "a podcast near you. Once I once I'm a"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "guest, I'm gonna pull like a Jesse"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "Michaels and pull one of these wild"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "words out and just leave you"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "dumbfounded."}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "Um, he does that, by the way. I"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "appreciate it because I get to learn I'm"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "editing the podcast and I I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "\"What the heck does that mean?\""}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "My turn, baby. All right. Also, uh,"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "sorry for keep I keep droning on. Um but"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "uh the whole like oh there are people"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "who are um basically within your"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "organization and like it all seems very"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "convenient that you're like calling out"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "like he he might have people in his"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "crosshairs you know what I mean before"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "and just just noted I I'm still"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "you know not judging I'm just saying"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "this also um sort of lowers conviction a"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "little bit for me anyways"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "there There is no need to to uncle Kate."}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "Uncle Kate. How is it Uncle Kate if it's"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "an I? That's what they're saying here,"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "though, huh? Unulkate."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": ">> inculcate."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> Oh, no. Inc. Inculcate."}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "It's uh NG sounds like I'm not even"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "kidding."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "If you if you write the word in"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "In inculcate inculcate,"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "man."}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "All right, we're learning. Just a quick"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "little interruption, folks. 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[music]"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "There is no need to inculcate loss of"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "memory in regard to this evening's"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "occurrences and events."}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "Is that the right that the right meaning"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "of the word in this sentence? Wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "it be incur? There's no need to incur"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "loss of memory in regard. All right,"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "I'm moving on. All right, I'm over it."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "A fact will be your ability to recall."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "Would you wish to observe the lights of"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "your man spacecraft center complex? I"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "looked at the screen."}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "Off to the left, you will observe what"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "is called Florida, and there is your"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "assembly area building. Toys that"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "delight our interest."}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "It is ironic that your space center is"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "near an ocean. Where we come from, our"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "operational vehicle lies near an ocean"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "also, though consistent 1/4 of water as"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "you perceive liquid."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "We will now be turning. I looked at the"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "screen and I was able to see lights of a"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "city below in the darkness. Then there"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "was a motion to my right and an occupant"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "stepped forward and bent down looking at"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "a set of lights in what resembled dials."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "Then the occupant walked over to the"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "leader and both stood facing each other."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "I heard an indescribable sound. The"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "leader looked at me and I turned looking"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "at him and he spoke. We are being"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "observed by individuals below who are"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "driving on a roadway. I wondered who,"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "what, where, and the leader paused,"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "apparently watching my reaction. It was"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "obvious. This turn of events was leaving"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "me in a state of utter astonishment. He"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "spoke up again. We will slow down so you"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "can observe reactions to our presence."}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "You may find it interesting. I looked"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "down at the instruments as the"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "checkerboard lit up and grew bright. The"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "occupants in the room moved back and"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "forth in an organized pattern. A slight"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "humming sound was heard in an echolike"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "sound. [music] I couldn't hear where it"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "came from. Again, the leader spoke. The"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "screen showed a Pinto station wagon in"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "front and a Buick Electra behind it."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "Both cars pulled off the road. A lady"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "was standing at the driver's side of the"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "Pinto and a man was standing on the"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "driver's side of the Buick. The screen"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "then moved up to a close-up picture. I"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "felt less less than 5t away. The look on"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "the faces will be with me for a long"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "time. The leader spoke. Do you recall"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "such wonder expressed? We will now move"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "upward. Notice the change in their"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "expressions as we move forward. Observe"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "the woman get into her car. the man will"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "do likewise. Even though inside the"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "object I couldn't detect motion, sure"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "enough, the woman ran around to the"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "passenger side and jumped in, locking"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "her door. The man calmly opened his door"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "and got in locking the door. This is"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "wild. So, he's showing Bill and he's"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "pointing to people that are pointing at"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "the saucer and he's like, \"Look at their"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "reactions, these humans. This is"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "absolutely wild. This is uh this is"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "Yeah, this is kind of this is kind of"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "nuts. This is artist Jacques P. Draier's"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "impression of the scene aboard the alien"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "ET spacecraft when the reticulan being"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "showed Bill Herman a scene on the ground"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "below them where their ship had been"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "spotted by people in two cars who had"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "stopped and gotten out for a better"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "look. Bill was shown how to adjust the"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "device to zoom in on the scene for a"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "close-up look. This all seems very"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "anthropomorphic to me, this this"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "technology, but alas, we continue. So"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "the leader speaks again. A two-foot"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "scanning will show her holding the lock"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "down. The man will just sit and watch."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "A useless gesture on their part if we"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "wish to direct observe, but this is not"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "our purpose. We will now continue on our"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "way. We are now coming up over your home"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "state."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "I was then motioned to come with the"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "leader. I walked up towards the doorway."}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "We walked away and then walked into the"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "closet-like room and the back door"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "closed and after four or 5 seconds"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "opened directly in front of us and we"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "were in a propulsion area."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "It was identical to the room I saw on"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "March 18th, thus adding to my"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "confirmation that this vehicle was the"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "same one as before. I asked about the"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "propulsion and was told that I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "comprehend it even if it was explained"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "to me in physical formula. a combination"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "of gravity/equilibrium"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "manipulation by electromagnetic energy"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "mass conversion within a unified field"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "of positive and negative particle beam"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "fusion based on principles beyond your"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "present technological capability. He"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "said, \"Well, that sounds an awful lot"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "like what we're trying to dissect here"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "with this technology.\" So, points for"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "Bill explaining the uh the technology"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "that he witnessed. We then walked out of"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "the propulsion area into the closet-like"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "area and after about 5 seconds walked"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "out and back into the hallway. Walking"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "back down the hallway, we turned into"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "the inculcation chamber, the examining"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "room,"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "and I was asking questions about the"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "energy used to operate the vehicle. The"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "leader spoke quite emphatically, \"It is"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "a paradox that your society loses energy"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "resources. The multitudes of lights that"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "use energy continue to operate even"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "after the light of your sunrise. In that"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "regard, your energy resources are many,"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "but your scientists seem to ignore the"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "most beneficial source. But enough. Our"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "time together is over."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "I was motioned to lie down. The leader"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "took my right arm and in an apparent"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "gesture of friendship concluded our"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "conversation."}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "The transference beam will place you"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "near your car. We trust this mutual"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "exchange of information has been"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "agreeable. Remember our words. Weigh"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "them carefully. Go and rest. We will"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "meet again."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "The bar of lights on the ceiling began"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "flashing. 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1. There was"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "an intense feeling of relaxation, and"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "the next thing I knew, I was standing"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "next to my car, and the disc was rising"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "upward slowly. This is the bottom view"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "of the disc."}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "So, there's this corona that did not"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "touch the ship. This circle around of"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "light that was floating underneath it."}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "Very interesting."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "And it had an orange light glow. And the"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "above disc was shimmering near bluish."}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "Okay. And then it had flashing and"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "spinning lights. Just a a whole light"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "show going on here."}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "And what's interesting too is that you"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "have the top going one way apparently"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "like rotating one way and the bottom"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "part or at least the three sorry the"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "three"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "uh bell-shaped protrusions underneath of"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "it rotating the opposite way. And this"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "is something you know we heard from Udo"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "Wartana is something we hear time and"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "time again from a lot of stories that"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "you know there's this counter rotation"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "that might have something to do you know"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "with the propulsion."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "Well, let's see. Um, let's see what"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "Colonel Stevens makes of this. The other"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "disc was at a higher altitude. Then the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "two discs maneuvered next to each other,"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "and both then, in a blur of soundless"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "motion, were gone. I stood there all"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "alone, listening to the silence. A"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "feeling of relief and great thirst came"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "over me. I got in my car and drove home."}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "When I got home, it was 4:15 to 4:20"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "a.m. I don't recall exactly, but I"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "called Wendell Stevens in Tucson and"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "drank two pictures of Kool-Aid, took a"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "shower, and went to bed. I was"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "emotionally drained. This bothered me."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "And that ended Bill's summary of the"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "second abduction, this time voluntary, a"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "trip which he willingly undertook to try"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "to get more information. I myself was"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "greatly relieved also and was happy to"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "make all the calls necessary to call off"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "the arrangements made earlier in case"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "Bill had an opportunity to stay longer."}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "Much like Valent's opportunity, the"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "sightings and the telepathic"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "transmission continued at a frequency of"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "nearly twice per week for some time. He"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "also continued to receive the strange"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "symbols [music] in the alien written"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "form by automatic writing, but was still"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "unable to read it. During these"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "extensive conversations uh Bill had with"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "the ETSs, the alien ETS, he never saw"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "their mouths open at any time, even when"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "they were talking, though he was sure he"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "was hearing the sounds with his ears and"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "not telepathically,"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "which he was by now familiar with."}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "He heard those sounds audibly, like"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "surround stereo. We discussed the"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "possible use of a translator device that"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "converted their speech to our language"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "and broadcasted through speakers, but he"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "saw no evidence of any speaker system."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "He looked closer at the ET's hands this"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "[music] time and not only confirmed the"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "earlier observation, but added to it."}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "They did not have fingernails,"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "and the fingers seem to be extended and"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "retracted at will. Ew,"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "gross."}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "The ends of the fingers were slender and"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "slightly curved. They were articulated"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "differently also, and although slender"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "when extended, seemed strong for their"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "size."}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "Ew, their gangly little thin long"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "fingers can stretch out."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "Gross."}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "The instrument panels aboard the ship"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "did not have uh switches and knobs like"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "those we are accustomed to, but more"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "like touch panels. Oo, that's"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "That's interesting. Now we're talking"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "about technology that's definitely ahead"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "of its time. The meters were different,"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "but not but more of a kind of moving"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "waves of light in 3D. These instruments"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "seem to present multiple information in"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "a simultaneous display."}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "During the last week of August 1981, my"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "co-investigator in an extensive UFO"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "contact case taking place in the western"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "part of Switzerland was visiting the"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "contact and his friends and associates"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "again re-checking details and picking up"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "new contact data for our record. Lee"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Elders was staying at the farm of Edward"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "J. Meyer, where he intended to meet some"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "new witnesses in that Swiss case. As the"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "international director of the an Arizona"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "based industrial counter espionage firm,"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "Intercept, he was covering two projects"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "in the one trip from Switzerland. He"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "would go to London to bid a security"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "project in that country."}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "So, we're talking about Billy Meyer"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "This is interesting."}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "At one point in one of the long private"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "discussions he carried on with Meyer, he"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "asked about any perceptible change in"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "the nature and frequency of the contacts"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "Meyer was having with some beings who"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "told him they came from a star pattern"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "which we call Pletes."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "We had already observed cyclic patterns"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "of activity and Lee was really seeking"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "to find out where in the cycles we were"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "at that time."}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "by responded that the contacts had been"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "coming fairly frequently of late, but"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "that there would be an interruption for"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "a while. On the last visit, his contact"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "had told him that their operations over"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "Earth would be curtailed for a time"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "because they, the Plleadenss, were going"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "to a meeting in the Andromeda galaxy"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "concerning affairs in the sector of our"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "galaxy, which also included our solar"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "system and Earth. only a small standby"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "team would carry on operations on a very"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "limited scale until the return of the"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "delegation."}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "Well, good to know. I'm glad we know all"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "these things. You know, it's important"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "so that we don't get worried when the"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "aliens stop showing up."}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "This piece of insignificant information"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "stunned and amazed me when I heard it."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "For it so happened that while he was"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "gone, I had finished up and delivered my"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "extensive report, UFO contact from"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "Reticulum, a report of investigation, a"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "416page"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "hardbound book on a single UFO contact"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "case taking place in Charleston, South"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "Carolina to the printer in Phoenix. And"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "then after receiving two more recent"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "contact notes from the reticulans to"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "Bill Herman, which seemed to be"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "important enough to immediately prepare"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "an addendum and rush it to Phoenix to be"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "added as the last pages in the book. I"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "had done exactly that, and the book was"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "now on the press."}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "Now it was his turn to be flabbergasted"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "and astonished as I read to him a part"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "of the second of those last two messages"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "mechanically transmitted through a"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "telepathic process to William Herman."}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "That message was received in Charleston"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "the evening of 29th of August 1981 and"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "in part reads as follows. This is from"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "the first book of UFO contact from"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "Riculum. Data injected into lexicon"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "network notified of data assimilation."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "Individual probe dispatch successfully"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "implemented. Probe isolated from"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "individual observance. Insertion into"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "program diversification."}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "Direct observant subject given"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "status."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "Inculcated data forthcoming."}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "Cultivation of accumulated data"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "implemented into network vehicle"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "operations. Individual scale increased."}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "Geoysical analysis integrated into"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "current systems."}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Protective measures enhanced [music]"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "accordingly. Expedition to Andromeda"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "stellar system approved by decision of"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "network elership. Earth operations"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "discontinued for stated period."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "Whoa. Wait. You're telling me that Bill"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "Herman"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "had this message before"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "anyone was made aware of of Meer saying"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "that the Plleadenss had to go to"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "Andromeda on like business."}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "That's kind of wild if true. That's kind"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "of crazy."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "Also, the language seems very robotic"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "and not unlike,"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "you know, Jim Penniston or even Jeremy"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "Weekes. uh the translations of the"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "transmissions that they've received were"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "also quite sterile in nature. Oh, this"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "is interesting. I'm I'm interested in"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "this. I like this. I I like the idea"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "that um aliens have to go on business"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "meetings as well. I think that that's uh"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "very human of them and I appreciate the"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "uh I appreciate their humanity."}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "I like the I I like the idea of a Star"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "Trek universe of a Federation being out"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "there, you know, with hierarchy and like"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "oversight. And I feel like that's"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "something my mind can comprehend."}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "I I'm also aware that the reality is"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "probably far more complex and"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "fantastical than I could ever put"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "together in my little brain."}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "But this is a fun way to digest it."}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "This was truly astounding. The"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "Plleadenss and these beings from"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "Reticulum were both curtailing"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "operations over the Earth the same time"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "and for some time and were both going to"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "a meeting in Andromeda on affairs"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "concerning this sector of the galaxy."}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "Was this merely coincidence or were they"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "on similar business?"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "There's been other evidence that both"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "separate groups of ET visitors are aware"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "of each other. The first of these last"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "messages received 4 days before the 25th"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "of August 1981 contain the following."}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "Data is integrated into a network"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "lexicon and implications involving the"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "subject are determined. Conclusions are"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "then transmitted throughout the network."}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "The network communications with"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "planetary intergalactic prevalent"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "existing life forms is based upon"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "universal and interuniversal committee."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "Recognition of interuniversal principles"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "and organizational thought is directed"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "primarily towards preservation of the"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "evolutionary spectrum and advancement of"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "the human civilizations."}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "Whoa. These are things that were Oh my"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "gosh, that is crazy. Hold on. This is"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "This is 81."}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "Is this prior to This isn't prior to Jim"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "Pennson, is it? Isn't Penn 1980?"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "December 1980."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "December 1980. But those messages"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "weren't decoded till years later."}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "So we don't know. Yeah. Well, it seems"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "like this came first."}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "So if anything, if if if you know"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "untrue, Jim Pennison would have borrowed"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "from this. But if true, this would be"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "the originator. Because listen to this,"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "advancement and preservation, the"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "preservation of evolutionary spectrum"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "and the advancement of human"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "civilizations. This this is the exact"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "language used in both the Jeremy Weeks"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "and the Jim Pennison stuff. This is"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "wild. Wild if true. My goodness."}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "Interference into the entire direction"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "of the planetary scale of the selected"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "planet is prohibited. All right. Part"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "for the course there. A violation"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "concerning this interuniversal committee"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "will result in the total eratification"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "of the responsible life form. The"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "penalty of violation is beyond reversal,"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "a recendation and compromise. The"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "Plleadian race has agreed as have the"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "council of Dorado and the Horologian"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "Assembly. The eldership and the other"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "quadrauniversal representatives are in"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "full and complete agreement with all"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "tenets of interuniversal committee. The"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "forthcoming observance of network"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "vehicles will be manifest. The network"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "has monitored the progress of inculcated"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "data and resultant documentation."}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "[music] More astounding to me as an"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "investigator is the reference to the"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "council of Dorado and the horologium"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "assembly terms assigned after"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "correlation by their lexicon. Apparently"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "other associated space traveling"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "entities like the network. So now we"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "have at least those three known to each"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "other and also known to the Plleadian"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "visitors to Switzerland who are part of"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "still another association of space"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "travelers."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "When I asked Bill Herman what the"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "Council of Dorado and the Horologium"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "Assembly were, he said he did not know"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "but would try to get more information on"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "them. When I looked in the star charts,"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "I found that Dorado and Horologium are"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "the neighboring star systems on either"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "side of Reticulum."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "Of particular interest here, however,"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "was the information that all three"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "systems [music] have an unusual"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "percentage of G-class suns"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "just like ours, and thus could be very"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "similar to ours."}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "That certainly must merit a good deal"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "more study by those more competent to do"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "so. Bill was amazed to find that it all"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "fit together in a certain way, which he"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "only discovered after it was put"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "together for him. This was a pleasant"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "surprise to me as well. All right,"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "here's some notes. I just wanted to go"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "over the little bar here that you see in"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "the picture. says, \"This small metal bar"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "was delivered to William Herman in a"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "basketball-sized globe of brilliant"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "bluish white light at 5:30 p.m. in the"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "late afternoon on 21st of April, 1979."}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "It was immediately preceded by"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "transmission of a full page of alien"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "symbols by automatic writing from the"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "ETS. They said the bar was a token of"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "their recognition of Herman's new"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "andbati status, which was not defined."}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "Note the symbols and placements on top"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "of the bar. So, the metal bar was about"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "3 cm wide by 7 cm long and about 2 1/2"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "cm thick. It was slightly smaller on top"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "than on bottom and had eight principal"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "symbols plus m recessed into the top"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "surface. The eight symbols were like"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "star map symbols for the constellation"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "reticulum except their layout depicted"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "that constellation is seen from a point"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "on Earth where they would be seen at"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "zenith overhead. Ordinary star charts do"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "not show them that way because the"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "zenith position would be over a point in"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "the midsouthern hemisphere for which we"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "do not make star charts here. More"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "details. An analysis of the metal and a"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "color photograph is printed in the"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "original UFO contact for reticulum by"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "Stevens and Herman. Copyright 81. Leader"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "was the only one with a distinguished"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "emblem. By the way, fun note. Didn't"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "know. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "if you go to 12, the note here, it says,"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "\"It appeared in retrospect that the ET"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "leader was referring to a sighting"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "incident near Santa Fe, Argentina,"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "involving one of their ships on a"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "research project in Rio Salada, north of"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "Santa Fe. It made the Argentine"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "newspapers and was finally explained"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "away as an Argentine airplane operating"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "in the Santa Fe area. What the witnesses"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "really saw was exactly what they"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "described, a 100 ft diameter circular"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "craft coming from the north at low level"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "and zooming up steeply. Unaware of that"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "sighting, Bill thought of the Valent"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "disappearance in Australia and switched"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "the discussion to that. So this could be"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "I mean this is in the exact area,"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "but this would have been maybe a few"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "years prior. This is 1977."}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "Notice the angle as well"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "as if about to take off."}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "And a final note here, it says, \"We have"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "not found a UFO abductee case yet where"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "the human abductee has reported feeling"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "inertial forces while aboard a"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "spacecraft in flight, though we can"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "clearly see the flight maneuvers are"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "rather abrupt.\" Uh, that's one of the"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "things I think that baffles most people"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "is this that that the gravity inside the"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "craft is unaffected by the gravity on"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "the outside of the craft or whatever."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "So, stranger yet is the inclusion of"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "Billy Meyer into this lore. Uh, over"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "here,"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "let me grab this."}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "Colonel Stevens is no uh stranger to"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "um the Billy Meyer"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "case. This one here printed I think in"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "1978"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "and that was from you know"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "the infamous Billy Meyer"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "where obviously the only photographs to"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "rival"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "I think Bill Herman's would be Billy"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "Meyers."}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "this one specifically. Now, you say"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "Billy Meyer, and there are a ton of"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "Billy Meyer photos"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "that look absolutely ridiculous. And I"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "mean"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "so far-fetched that it's almost"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "it makes you question"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "not whether or not they're authentic,"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "they look fake, 100%. It makes you"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "question the motive and also why his"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "earlier photos looked so good. Like"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "his earlier photos you can take to any"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "photo expert and there is no explanation"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "given other than that's an object in a"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "sky."}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Looking at his later photographs you go,"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "\"What is this? A cake? Is this a joke?"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "Is this a farce?"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "You know, so some would speculate that"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "maybe something got to Billy. Maybe the"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "sightings got to his own head after they"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "stopped and he needed to, you know, keep"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "producing material. He's got over, I"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "think, 900 contact uh case stories"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "listed on uh some website,"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "these ongoing contacts with these"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "different Plleadian beings."}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "At what [music] point, you know, is it"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "It's just so hard for me to know"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "because, you know, you look at this"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "stuff and you want to keep an open mind."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "And with Billy Meyer, I I keep an open"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "mind for the earlier stuff. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "going to rule out, you know, things get"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "complicated. And if you if you throw the"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "baby out with a bathwater, you might"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "miss something. And uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "many people are like, I don't believe"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "Billy or I believe him. That's fine. And"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "if you want to put yourself in a binary"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "situation,"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "uh, by all means do so. If it helps you"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "sleep at night, it doesn't. It actually"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "keeps me up at night. I'd rather"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "I'd rather lower my conviction with the"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "later photos, but then like look into"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "some of the earlier ones that were just"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "they were so remarkable."}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "Unbelievable."}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "When I say unbelievable, I don't mean it"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "in the literal sense. I mean, in the"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "figurative sense, they looked amazing."}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "As a photographer, they were just"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "incredible to look at. Some of the best"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "photos we've ever seen."}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "I think I think one day we'll have to"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "open up a Billy Meyer case and look deep"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "into uh some of the earlier stuff. the"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "later stuff I could probably do without."}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "There's a lot of contact stories with"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "these, you know, seamyaz and all the"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "other plleadian beings and it it becomes"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "just a little too"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "worldb buildinging and and and maybe"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "it's true. I just I I don't think I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "ready to certainly suspend my disbelief"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "to that extent because it it it is, you"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "know, borderlining a really good fantasy"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "novel. And uh although I I'm listen I'm"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "I'm open-minded, I I I gotta start slow."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "I got to start by dipping my toe in the"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "water. So maybe we'll look at that one"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "day. And by the way, Billy's still"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "around."}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "He's somewhere in Switzerland, I think."}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "Still um still doing his thing. Would be"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "awesome to get to talk to him one day,"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "but who knows? We shall see. Folks,"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "that's all I got for you today. I hope"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "you enjoyed this little read through."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "I'm going to take a look at this. There"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "might be a part three because I do"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "believe there is another part of the"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "story uh which includes his friend"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "because as the aliens told him like your"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "friend's going to be contacted soon. I"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "think we're going to hear from that"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "friend and I would love to see where the"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "story ends up and it's just sort of an"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "unfinished story for me now and I hope I"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "hope you guys feel the same. I hope you"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "guys enjoyed this. I really enjoyed this"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "story and I can't wait to uh to take a"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "deeper look into Bill Herman's past."}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "Folks, if you like this video, leave a"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "like, you know, all that stuff,"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "subscribe, hype it up. There's a hype"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "button if you can do that. I don't even"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "know what that does, but surprise me."}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "And um I really appreciate you guys. 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Um"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "it's going to be a good time and I look"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "forward to opening some more dates up"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "soon. Hopefully I can confirm that with"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "you folks. Check us out52.shop"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "patreon.com/era52investigations"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "and all the other links are below."}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "Thanks so much for watching. Peace and"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "love."}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:08", "text": ">> [music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "[bell]"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "When I was around 16, uh maybe 17, um me"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "and my friend had gotten invited over to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "um a friend's house and it required that"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "we um use a vehicle. When we started"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "[music] to drive, my friend had started"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "to feel tired and so we had switched"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "drivers. After we had switched drivers,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "um everything went black for both me and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "her. We both believed that we were um"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "abducted. Uh the reason for this is"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "because [music] after this like blackout"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "or whatever it was,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "we had woken up in a completely"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "different town in the opposite direction"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "of where we were heading. Um we were in"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "her mother's vehicle. Um, and uh, we"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "were parked in a [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "car sales lot. So, we end up in a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "completely different town, complete"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "opposite direction of where we're going."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Didn't make it to our friend's house, as"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "we found out later. I just remember"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "waking up"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "not knowing what in the heck had had"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "just happened. Um, my friend, she was"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "laying back asleep still. And both of us"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "for some reason had our um our our seats"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "um all the way completely back. The"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "vehicle was dead. We were both also so"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "groggy. We had these crazy massive"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "headaches. When we got back, her mother"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "had said that we just kind of looked at"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "her"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "and she was angry because we we had"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "taken her car and not returned. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "she said that she was yelling at us and"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "all we did was"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "look at her with dead expressions on our"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "face."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Chris Ramsay and today we are going to"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "be starting a very special journey"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "together. You see, recently there was an"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "auction, an auction that I took part in"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "that I kind of remained silent about"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "because the contents of the auction were"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "incredibly sensitive. They featured"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "hundreds of original photos of flying"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "saucers. They featured videos that have"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "never been seen by the public. And they"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "even featured a yearbook from the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Roswell Air Force Base [music] in 1947."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "All of which were seemingly previously"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "destroyed. Well, all except one in the"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Smithsonian and one more."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Needless to say, I took part in this"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "auction and I've"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "I've collected quite a few things. All"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "in the name of science, [music] in the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "name of disclosure, and in the name of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "digging through some really interesting"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "stories. And we begin this journey by"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "looking at some photos. The photos that"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "will be featured today are the photos"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "taken in 1980"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "by none other than William Herman,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "otherwise known as Bill Herman."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "And I have in my hand these photos for"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "you now."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "in North Charleston, South Carolina, 4th"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "of April, 1980"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "between 5:30 and 6:00 p.m. taken by"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "William J. Herman. Now, this collection"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "of photos on auction were from the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "collection of UFO researcher Chris"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Wyatt. And the photos were actually from"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Wendell Stevens, Colonel Wendell"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Stevens. Now, you might have heard that"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "name before. He is indeed the author of"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "many books that I've used as references"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "or B-rolls or even as today"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "readthroughs. Uh he was an incredible"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "researcher that put together just a"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "compendium of UFO contact cases ranging"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "anywhere from the midentury all the way"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "up into the late8s. Well, Colonel"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Stevens had amassed an incredible"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "photographic collection of UFOs given to"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "him by witnesses from all around the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "world, all different parts of this"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "planet. And folks, we've collected so"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "many of them and we are going to share"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "them with you one video at a time as we"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "run through this series of film"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "photographs that were taken by"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "witnesses. This is very exciting for me."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Um, these photos are they might be of"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "real alien"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "crafts. And when you hear the stories"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "associated with these photos, you might"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "find yourself also convinced of that"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "fact. Leave a like, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "before we get into anything else, a"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "quick word from today's sponsors. Most"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "people think privacy is something you"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "give up by accident, like you clicked on"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the wrong button or link or accepted the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "wrong cookie, signed up for the wrong"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "thing. But the truth is, you don't opt"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "in. It just happens."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "There's an entire industry built around"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "quietly collecting pieces of who you"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "are. 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This is by Colonel"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Wendell Stevens. and the photos that we"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "have today."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "I gotta take I gotta be careful with"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "these photos. I'm actually going to put"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "these back here before I projectile, you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "know, spit all over these and ruin them"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "forever. These are incredible. Like,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "look at these. These are these might be"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "real UFOs. I mean, they are real UFOs"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "by the very definition, but they might"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "be alien. Incredible."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "What's really interesting as well is"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "that there have been sightings"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "of these exact same craft. Now, I know a"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "flying saucer is a flying saucer to many"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "of you, but there are certain physical"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "attributes"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "that u that seem to"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "um at least look like they might belong"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "to, you know, the same vehicles seen by"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "other witnesses and all across the world"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "once again. But all ranging roughly in"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the same time period from the sort of"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "70s to the 80s. These flying these types"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "of flying saucers seem to crop up quite"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "a bit."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "All right. So, Colonel Wendell Stevens"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "uh had a few books on the contact from"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Reticulum case, which was Bill Herman's"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "case, focused primarily on Bill's case."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Uh he originally put one out and while"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "he put this out, the investigation was"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "actually ongoing. So, this was something"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "that was still happening. There were"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "more witnesses. there were more uh"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "sightings and there were more photos to"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "be released. And so what we're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "be doing today is we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "reading from the updated version of"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "contact from Reticulum where there is"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "more information regarding"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "contact with the beings that Bill Herman"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "had but also kind of summarizes"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "everything that happened in the previous"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "book."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "The book opens with a quote that says,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "\"Man is now beginning to see himself as"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "not alone in the universe nor master of"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "it, but merely as the local example of"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "advanced life.\" By Dr. Hans Mark, NASA"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "as researchers."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "I do want to begin this read through by"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "looking at the introduction because it"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "does summarize a little bit of the first"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "book here. The full accounts of the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "initial sightings of strange circular"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "aircraft uh shiny by day and radiant by"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "night operating in the skies of the"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "neighborhood around North Charleston,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "South Carolina and subsequent abductions"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "aboard the same craft of William J."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Herman of that city were reported in"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "detail in the original volume of UFO"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "contact for reticulum published in 1981."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "The report was curtailed at the time and"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "published in the midst of the contacts"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "still going on."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Bill Herman had become disenchanted with"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the then developing phenomenon for two"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "main reasons. His Southern Baptist"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "church and his wife, a devout Christian,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "thought that since these beings didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "seem to have a Jesus Christ,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "I don't know why I put emphasis on the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Jesus there. Uh these contacts must be"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "the work of the devil. And they went to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "great lengths to persuade him to avoid"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the alien creatures and all their"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "attempts at contact."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Now, to many of you, this might ring"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "eerily similar to the case of Chris"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Bledsoe, also Baptist, I believe, if not"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Baptist. No, not Baptist. He was"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "um what was he? Pentecostal, also just"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "incredibly religious in in North"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Carolina, a very an also religious part"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "of the country. Uh faced some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "same backlash when he came out years ago"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "through that MUON documentary. His"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "neighbors and friends began to shun and"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "avoid him because of his strange"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "accounts of these contacts that he was"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "relating. He received very threatening"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "telephone calls. The lug nuts on the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "wheels of his old automobile were"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "deliberately loosened. His car was run"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "off the road more than once and was"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "finally smashed."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "His home was assaulted and finally"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "burned to the ground."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "These were the acts of his fellow"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "humans, not ET visitors."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "The alien extraterrestrial beings aboard"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the strange spacecraft told their"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "witness/abductee"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Bill Herman that they came from a double"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "sun system in [music] the group stars"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that we call reticulum."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "They even went so far as to say that our"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "astronomers had identified these twin"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "suns as zeta 1 and zeta 2 reticuli. If"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "reticulum or reticuli rings a bell,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "obviously this comes up quite a bit, not"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "only with the story of Bob Lazar, Betty"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "and Barney Hill, but also as recently as"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Sergeant Firstclass Jeremy Weekes that"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "we had on the podcast and said [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "sort of beware of those coming from"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Reticulum. Now, are those beings just"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "scoping us in some way? Who do we"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "believe? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "These extraterrestrials were highly"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "intelligent and well-informed. They"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "possessed marvelous instruments and"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "devices aboard their ships and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "demonstrated unbelievably superior"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "technologies."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "They performed feats of manifestation,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "abortation, and communications and"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "exhibited control of their ship"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "in-flight demonstrations [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "completely beyond anything we ever"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "dreamed of."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "They returned again and again to that"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "north Charleston area and they opened"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "several means of direct contact with the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "witness. In the middle of all this, Bill"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Herman was fired from his job because of"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the unwelcome attention he was getting"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and he took a new job out of the local"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "area. He began sharing rides to work"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "with Tony Martin and even then his more"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "than weekly sightings of the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "extraterrestrial flight demonstrations"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "overhead continued and Tony Martin"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "became a witness also."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "And then Tony Martin seemed to come to"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "the attention of the extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "himself. Well, folks, the plot thickens."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Tony was a handsome, intellectual black"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "man married to his beautiful white wife,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Molina."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "And they had a lovely baby at the time."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "This was strangely reminiscent of the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "well-known Barney and Betty Hill UFO"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "abduction in New Hampshire 1961. And"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "these extraterrestrials even looked the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "same as those described by the Hills."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "But more important, these ETs told Bill"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Herman on one occasion aboard their"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "craft that they had made direct contact"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "with a couple 18 years ago in another"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "part of this land, which got too much"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "attention to suit them. 18 years back"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "from 1979 would have been well, 1961."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Molina began seeing the strangely"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "luminous flying object over their home"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "in Somerville and beyond the backyard"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "there. It occasionally appeared and"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "followed Tony in his car just like it"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "had been doing with Bill Herman and then"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "with Bill Herman and Tony Martin"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "together. Tony began to observe it in"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "flight when he was alone too and later"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "he learned to sense the ET presence in"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the vicinity."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "One time a slender prismatic object of"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "unusual material from the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "extraterrestrials was aorted directly"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "into his locked automobile parked in"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "full view in front of the house. But"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "these people were not the only ones"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "seeing the unusual flying objects in the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Charleston skies. Literally scores of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "local residents were reporting them, and"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "this was happening quite frequently."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Bill Herman snapped four sets [music] of"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "color photographs of four different"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "versions of the ships used by the ETSs."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Three of these sets of pictures were"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "described and shown, two in color in the"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "original booklength report on this case."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "What Bill Herman did not know, whose"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "case was still unknown to this man, Dr."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Carl [music] Harper, also of North"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Charleston, had taken a series of color"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "photographs of the same style craft as"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Bill Herman photographed in his first"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "pictorial capture of the ET vehicle."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "[music] And Dr. Harper snapped his"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "pictures in the Ashley River Dorchester"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Road area, too. The same vicinity as in"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "many of Bill Herman's sightings. and"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Harper took his pictures about the same"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "time as Herman's sightings of this type"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "of craft were increasing in the area."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "The extraterrestrials began to transmit"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "something in writing to Herman in a"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "completely unknown symbol form."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Sometimes it involved complex equations,"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "diagrams, and also sketches equally"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "unfamiliar to Bill Herman. At times they"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "would explain these communications as"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "they were being transmitted, and at"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "other times they told him that he would"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "be able to understand them at some time"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "in the future. after the occurrence of a"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "future event that would trigger his"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "memory to previously in inculcated"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "inculsated"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "data instilled in his subconscious by a"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "device aboard the ET ship."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Huh."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Automatic writing. That's an interesting"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "That's an interesting thing."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "never knew what to make of automatic"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "writing to be quite frank"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "because it's mostly just gibberish,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "you know. Um, even some channelers,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "namely Angela Ford, who was here on the"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "podcast, she would do this sort of"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "automatic writing technique, but it was"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "she wasn't writing anything. It was kind"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "of just like more of a a tool to help"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "channel whatever entity or guide that"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "she was channeling at the time."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "uh seems a little strange."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "But again, you know, this is a gentleman"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "who uh was apparently a staunch sort of"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "believer in in Jesus and and religion"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "and very much against the idea of aliens"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and flying saucers at the time. feminine"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "to go from that to communicating with"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "alien beings. You would think that if"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "you did if you were trying to hoax"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "something or gain attention in some"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "matter that you would perhaps do so in a"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "way that seemed like you were"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "getting messages from God or an angel or"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "something like that, but not little"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "beings in orange jumpsuits. So, that"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "part really stands out. And we'll get"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "into the similarities between the beings"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "that Bill had observed and the beings"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "that uh Travis Walton had actually"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "observed. And not only that, I did look"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "for maybe I'll find it, but I did look"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "for Dr. Carl Harper's photos online. I"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "couldn't seem to find him. There is a"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Carl Harper uh that is a Muon"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "investigator. I'm not sure if he's still"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "around. Uh but yeah, I had a hard time"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "locating those photos, but I would love"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "to see them. and maybe I'll splice them"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "in if I do find them. Curiously, we've"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "had many illegal intercepts of mail."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "Private mail sent first class in the US"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Postal Service in this case, and one of"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "these included a lengthy verbal"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "description of a scientific device and"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "some instructions and cautions for its"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "use. The extraterrestrial communicators"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "used the stilted universal words stored"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "in their computer translator, which Bill"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Herman had now become familiar with and"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "understood fairly well to describe the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "steps and procedures. This was one of"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "those intercepts, and it was quote"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "unquote lost in the mail for many days."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "Then finally, I received the missing"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "letter in my mail delivery. It looked"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "like it was addressed to William Herman."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "All right. But it had a wrong postmark"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "date, was in the wrong-sized envelope,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "and had four of the original 11 pages"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "missing. They had been removed by"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "somebody on route to me. There were also"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "a number of red ink notations in the"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "abbreviated jargon of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "analysts passing the material from one"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "to another. Why it was sent on to me, I"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "will never know."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "When I took a magnifying glass and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "examined the cover address in blue ink"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "with a ballpoint pen, typical of the one"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Bill Herman used, I could see that this"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "address was not applied in a smooth flow"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "as Bill wrote, but with many starts and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "stops, as if by tracing over a bright"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "light. When I called Bill about this, he"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "said that when it left his hand, there"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "were 11 pages. Another envelope of a"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "different size, a different postmark"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "date, no red marks on any part of it."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Another intercepted letter contained a"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "transcript of a discussion aboard the ET"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "ship during yet another abduction of the"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "system of propulsion and went into"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "detail on a future event and a mission"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "for Bill Herman to carry out as their"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "and Bahhati on Earth."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "When this much delayed letter arrived,"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "it had United Nations postage stamps on"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "the envelope, a New York postmark, a"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "different date from the letter inside,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "[music] and had one intelligence"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "analyst's note in red ink to another who"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "used blue ink. And I received the Xerox"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "copied analyst's copy instead of the"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "original, as was usually the case. I"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "wonder what those analysts thought when"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "they discovered they had sent me the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "wrong copy with all their notes on it."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Well, that's interesting."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "I wonder if we get to see some of those."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "The self-proclaimed reticulent occupants"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "of these discshaped craft told Bill"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Herman that they had lost ships of"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "theirs over our land many years ago. At"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "first, they thought we had used a beam"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "weapon on them in a hostile action. But"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "when they observed the quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "weapon, still firing the beam in a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "continual sweep pattern uh day and"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "night, they concluded that it was not an"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "overtly hostile attack on them and"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "decided against retaliation. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "is really interesting. If we think about"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "radar systems and the way that they"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "function, they are kind of continuously"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "beaming and that might be a way to bring"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "down these crafts. According to the"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "crash at Aztec, even some speculate the"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "crash at Roswell coupled with perhaps"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the electric storm uh might have been,"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "you know, for lack of a better term, the"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "perfect storm in order to create uh some"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "type of weapon to bring down these"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "craft. And so, interestingly enough,"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "what we're seeing here is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "something that does align with modern"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "UFO crash lore. There is in fact some"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "evidence linking the crash of at least"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "three circular discshaped spacecraft"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "having occupants of a description"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "similar of these ET reticulants in the"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "four corners area of our west where a"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "high energy area air traffic control"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "radar was installed near Mount Teleride"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "at the time but was later decommissioned"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "because it was too quote unquote hot and"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "killed a number of animals in the"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "vicinity. The reticulate"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "extraterrestrials visiting Charleston"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "told Bill Herman of a network to which"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "they belonged which included other"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "extraterrestrials from other places all"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "carrying out operations including Earth."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "And this is exactly what we see besides"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "the hills in New Hampshire long ago."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "Travis Walton was more recently abducted"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "from a wooded area near Snowflake,"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Arizona by similarly described"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "extraterrestrial beings who also"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "examined him in a way much like that of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Bill Herman and Barney and Betty Hill."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "SMS Charles Moody described his"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "abductors in his own encounter at"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Almagordo, New Mexico in terms very"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "similar to those used by Herman and the"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Hills. The extraterrestrials gave him an"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "examination like the Hills and Bill"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "Herman, a physical and mental"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "examination in considerable detail"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "before they released him and escorted"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "him through parts of their ship. The"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "patterns seem to fit and it all hangs"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "together despite none of these witnesses"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "being aware of any of the others cases"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "before their own experience. Well,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "allegedly. In fact, none of them were"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "much interested in UFOs and UFO stories"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "before their own abductions. Again,"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "allegedly, we must reserve some"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "skepticism. Although we do suspend our"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "disbelief here quite regularly, it is"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "important to practice a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "restraint when it comes to these things."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Uh just to keep a rational mind about"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "us. After that they knew, okay, we have"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "decided to resume articulent ET"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "reporting in this a second volume on"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "these contacts because of the very close"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "relationship between the first several"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "down discs recovered by our government"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "and these particular alien"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "extraterrestrials see UFO crash at Aztec"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "uh this thing right here."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "It now appears quite probable at least"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "some of the ET bodies we have in"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "preservation occupants from the down"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "discs may in fact be of reticulan origin"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "as the reticulan contacts are still"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "ongoing today. It also seems within the"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "realm of possibility that we might know"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "or at some future time be able to open"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "up some kind of official dialogue"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "leading to the return of the aliens"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "remains and some kind of official"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "relationship with that class of being."}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "if we have not already done so."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "We hope that by bringing all of this to"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "public attention, we may be able to"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "influence our government to reveal some"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "of the secrets about these activities"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "which they have been sitting on for so"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "many years. And that is the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "introduction, incredibly interesting."}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "Um, as noted by Wendell Stevens, there"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "are many other cases which not only"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "feature similar craft, similar beings,"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "but also happen in the similar time"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "frame in the similar Four Corners area."}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "And Four Corners, we're talking about uh"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, I"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "believe. And uh it is also, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "that's the first time I've ever visited"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "that part of the world uh was when I was"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "down there with Jesse Michaels looking"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "at the Aztec crash and going to the"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "crash site was quite amazing to see"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "firsthand and with the guidance of uh"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Suzanne and Scott Ramsay. It was just a"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "really enlightening trip. Uh something"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "that I'll remember for the rest of my"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "life and I look forward to sharing that"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "story when it does come out."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "Okay, this is the origin of the Bill"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Herman sightings. We're not going to get"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "into all of them. I do want to get into"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "his contact with the ETS. Uh but it's"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "important to note that these sightings"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "began years before his abduction in"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "1977."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "This is where he observed uh many"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "sightings of these discs performing"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "impossible maneuvers such as following a"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Cessna. Um he observed them following"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "different airplanes. He observed them uh"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "doing these triangular"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "maneuvers which you know I've heard of"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "before through many of the calls of the"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "people that call into this show have"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "observed as well but like some type of"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "triangular"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "maneuver for some reason. And then"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "sometime I believe in 19 was this 1978."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "Yeah. That would have been the first"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "time that Bill Herman would be uh to his"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "knowledge abducted. And he goes into"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "more detail about the sighting prior to"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "the abduction in the first volume, but"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "we're going to get into the summary of"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "that and then into the subsequent"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "meeting or experience. 18th of March,"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "1978,"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "Bee's Ferry in Ashley River area,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "Somerville, 9:25 to midnight, well to"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "12:15."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Weather clear, visibility unlimited,"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "wind southwest at 6 knots, 40 to 42"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "degrees Fahrenheit. After observing"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "object moving in triangular patterns and"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "also through binoculars, walked to"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "railroad line and toward object for"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "better look, object suddenly dropped and"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "swooped in very close and took the"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "witness aboard in a beam of blue light."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "I do want to get into that actually a"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "little bit because the details of that"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "abduction"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "are quite remarkable. He gets into all"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "of his sightings by the way"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "in great detail. Very, very thorough"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "person."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "So, here we go. Here is that"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "uh original abduction and what happened."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "So, while watching a UFO moving in"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "triangular patterns, I was standing and"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "thought I would try to get a closer look"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "at the object. So, I walked to the end"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "of the trailer park and cut through an"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "area where I knew a shortcut, a path"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "that led to the train tracks in the"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "trestle area quite close to the power"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "towers and to the general area under the"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "UFO. When I got to the end of the"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "street, Floyd Circle, the fence where"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "the shortcut was was no longer open. It"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "had been repaired. So, I ran out of the"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "trailer park and made my way to the"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "pathway. I was walking down to the train"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "tracks short distance and could see the"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "UFO hovering over the left of SCENG"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "Power Tower. I stopped walking and stood"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "there as I saw the object start another"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "triangular figure. Then the UFO suddenly"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "dropped. For a moment, I thought it was"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "going to hit the river or marsh."}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Instead, the UFO just sat there [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "just above the Ashley River. Then, the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "brightness disappeared."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "Instantly, like a light was shut off."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Before I could react, I saw a blur of"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "motion, and the UFO was no more than 10"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "to 15 ft in front of where I was"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "standing, just above a large bush facing"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "I was very startled and lost my footing"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "and started to fall, losing my balance."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "I quickly turned around to see what I"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "was going to fall on. 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I tried to put my hands through"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "the blue haze and to my surprise I could"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "extend my hands right through it. I also"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "seemed to retain my balance and I didn't"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "feel as if I was falling at this point"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "in this account. My mind is a blur and I"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "can't recall exactly what happened next."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "All I recall is a sound sort of distant"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "and it is pulsating a hum of sorts and"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "the first inclination is that the source"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "of the sound lies below in a basement."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "Details are sketchy from this point on."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "[music] I remember waking up lying on a"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "bed or a table and in a reddish small"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "room and there are three individuals"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "standing near a box that resembles a TV."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "Maybe it is a TV. 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As I touch"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "their arms again, I am aware of a deeper"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "strength."}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "And then we pass the box and I notice on"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "the bottom of the box there are wheels"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "and that the box is connected to the bed"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "or table. Like in a days we walk through"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "a narrow doorway in a circular hallway."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "The walls of the hallway are the same"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "color as the room. 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I can't"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "describe the kind of gentleness that"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "came over [music] me. My mind is a"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "blank, as if something is missing. And"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "then I recall walking into a doorway. It"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "shuts with a swishing sound."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "And suddenly opens into a room that is"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "empty, save for a massive amount of"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "machinery located in the center of this"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "room, which is filled with colors."}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "In the checkerboard, constantly in"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "motion. Two checkerboard constantly in"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "motion. Two large round balls are"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "attached to the top left and top right"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "sides of the machinery. Wires and rods"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "are seen in the center of the balls. A"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "moment of doubt. Yes, the round balls"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "are transparent."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "Two people are seated at a desk facing"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "the checkerboards."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "They rise as we approach the lights in"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "motion and they step back behind us"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "again. the voice. This is our"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "equilibrium manipulator unit. Come, we"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "must return to the inculcation chamber."}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "The time has arrived."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "We go out the door and into a small"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "doorway. It shuts, opens, and we walk"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "back down the hallway. We pass the room"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "where the machinery is located. I see"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "the tape reels as we pass the doorway."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "All of them are stopped. We continue"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "down the hallway. Just going to pause"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "here for a second. And I find this very"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "fascinating that we're mentioning tape"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "reels. Now he says he assumes these are"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "tape reels. Now 1980 late 1970s these"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "would be quite you know regular and also"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "probably considered high tech at the"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "time. I do find it very interesting that"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "I mean there's there's a few points here"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "to be made. either this is made up some"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "or some type of screen memory or he's"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "just relating whatever he's familiar"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "with or these beings are actually using"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "reals realtore technology you know who's"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "to say you know or maybe they did it"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "just to make him comfortable or or maybe"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "this is the military performing some"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "type of secret MK Ultra SCOP on this guy"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "and they've got real tore going you know"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "the options are endless but endlessly"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "curious Curious nonetheless,"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "we walked into the first room on our"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "left. 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The essay, the"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "inculcation monitor will help you"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "remember. Contact him. The essay will"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "come to you. That voice so knowing."}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "There is a blur of motion. Lights of all"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "colors shine upon me like a prism"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "rainbow. A token of contentment."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "Fear subsides and serenity entraps me"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "within. Everything is blank. I notice"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "the wall has no borders. It looks like"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "the walls are one long sheet of bright"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "red and silver polished metal, almost"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "like a molded surface. Why didn't I"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "notice that before? I mean, once again,"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "we're seeing something very reminiscent"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "of many, many countless abduction"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "stories where these rounded walls seem"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "to stick out to the experiencers"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "because it's something so unusual that"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "there are no seams. We don't realize how"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "unusual something like that is. You"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "know, especially if you look at Bob"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "Lazar's craft, you see these tiny"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "benches, these chairs that are molded,"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "again, prior to 3D printing, just kind"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "of molded into the floor. And that must"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "be just so striking because it's not"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "something we're familiar with in"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "everyday architecture or design. It's"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "not something that comes up very often,"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "especially probably not back then. So,"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "it does stand out. Also interesting is"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "the sort of flooding of serenity that is"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "felt by Bill in this instance. Obviously"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "we you know we've often referred to Dan"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "Burrish um famous sort of alleged"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "whistleblower who worked at S4 with"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "these beings and Dan Burish once said"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "that these beings have the capacity to"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "flood you with endorphins. So sort of"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "hormonally control your brain somehow"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "and and flooding you with these"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "endorphins to make you feel good to"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "attenuate or diminish the amount of fear"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "that you're feeling. So if they feel"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "that you're panicking, all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "you'll feel hyper serene like these are"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "your kin, like these are your friends"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "and your family and there's this sense"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "of familiarity."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "And uh we hear that time and time again,"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "not only in these cases, but again"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "recently with Jeremy Weekes kind of"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "saying the same thing, but also, you"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "know, Whitley Strieber and countless"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "others. the time that we don't see it,"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "which I thought was interesting is um"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "when I spoke to Travis Walton, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "Travis said that he was in a panic and"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "and maybe whatever happened to him,"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "maybe the injury prevented them from"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "psychically calming him down for"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "whatever reason. So, um I think it's"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "interesting that they use our brains as"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "a means to calm us down rather than some"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "type of external instrument. Or maybe"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "there is an external instrument that"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "triggers that. Who knows? We're"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "speculating. We're having fun. All"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "This could all be bogus. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "But it's fun."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "I am surrounded by that blue haze of"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "light. Safety within [music] again."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "There is an orange glow at my feet,"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "almost like a mirrored reflection. I"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "look at my feet. I am suddenly very,"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "very disoriented, confused, and"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "frightened. [music] I look around me."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "Pitch black darkness all around me. A"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "rush of fear explodes and I look above"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "me. I see a dark circular outline rising"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "slowly. I look for the river and marsh."}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "Try to get my sense of direction."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Nothing looks familiar. Where in God's"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "creation am I? I find myself quoting"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "Bible verses. I am running back and"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "forth screaming for help. What is going"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "on? Nothing looks familiar. I look"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "upward. The stars are distinct. Obvious."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "What's that? It's moving up, down, back"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "and forth in a triangle. The disc."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "Where are the power towers? They were"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "right there a moment ago. Wait a minute."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "A flashback of thought and then nothing."}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "Get back to the glow. There's safety"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "within it. I stop running."}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "I see the glow. It is not as bright as"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "It is fading."}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "Silence."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "Silence and stillness."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "What's that? What's Who's over there?"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "No answer again. Silence. I stand and"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "feel the breeze. It's [music] sort of"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "chilly. I look upward. The disc is"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "moving in a triangular pattern. It"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "levels off and then halts, but just for"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "a second. Then it rushes away to my"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "left, out of sight. At that moment,"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "light shines through the darkness to my"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "left. Car lights. There is a road to my"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "left, and those are trees. I realize I"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "am in an open field, a tilled field. But"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "where? How did I get here?"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "Figure that out later, Bill. Right now,"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "get help. I run in the direction of the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "trees near the road where I saw the car"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "speed by."}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "It is about a minute or so and a car"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "comes around the curve in the road. I"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "flag the car down. Please get help. Call"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "a policeman. Where am I? What time is"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "it? I am told I am on Bacon's Bridge"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "Road in Somerville."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "And it is after 12:15, after midnight,"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "but it was 9:30 or so a moment ago."}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "I start crying."}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "I feel like I'm going to pieces. Get a"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "hold of yourself, Bill. I repeat my plea"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "for a policeman. The people in the BMW"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "drive off. I wonder if they think I'm"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "drunk or crazy or both."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "I better flag another car down."}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "Volkswagen bug, red and color stops. and"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "I repeat my request for assistance."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "They drive away. The BMW returns. Can"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "they help? They ask. The VW returns. The"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "same offer is repeated. Moments later, a"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "Dorchester County deputy drove up and"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "went back into the field with me as I"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "tried to explain the circumstances."}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "After a routine police report was filled"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "out concerning my being helped by the"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "police, a phone call was made to [music]"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "my wife Patty, which included an"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "insinuation that my mental faculties"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "were left to be desired for sane"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "behavior. I was dropped off at a quick"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "stop convenience store, apparently for"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "the convenience of the policemen."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "After an hour and a half, my father and"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "my wife arrived at the store and I went"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "back to Charleston with them. By"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "arrangement of Jim and Coral Lorenzan of"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "APRO, Dr. James Harter, PhD, who has"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "developed a considerable reputation for"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "his success in recovering information"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "from the deeper levels of consciousness"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "and bringing it forward to the waking"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "consciousness of contactees, entered the"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "case and began working with William"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "Herman."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "Through his efforts, Herman is now able"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "to consciously recall most of what"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "happened that night and can deal with it"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "on a rational level. He wrote me in his"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "subsequent letter,"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "\"I myself observed this UFO on November"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "12th, 20 27th, December 2nd, 4th,"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "January 22nd,"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "and February 8th twice. And on the 22nd"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "of January and the 27th of November, I"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "was able to photograph the object. The"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "constancy of the UFO over the Charleston"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "area disturbed me. Many other people"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "witnessed this object also, but for fear"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "of ridicule, these people desire to"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "remain unknown. However, they did"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "discuss the circumstances of their"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "observances with me and verify the"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "details that were available at the time"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "of the interviews. They are as follows."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "The object was about twice the size of a"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "Piper Cherokee and of a silver bright"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "metallic appearance about 60 to 70 ft in"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "diameter. The object moved in a familiar"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "triangular pattern and was most often"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "seen in the general area of Bee's Ferry"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "and Ashley River near Drayton on the"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "Ashley and up near the Hunley Park"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "subdivisions above me about 800 to 1,000"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "ft above the ground. I received the"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "impression that I was being watched more"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "than I was watching. Except for two"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "nights in February, the sightings were"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "not as regular after the January 22nd"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "sighting, but the big event [music] was"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "still to come. We will allow Bill to"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "repeat his new recollection at the"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "abduction to show how sometimes"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "confusing details cleared up. March 18th"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "was a Saturday. The object was again"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "seen over the power tower area. I"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "pointed it out to my wife [music] and"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "her close friend who had come over that"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "evening. I mentioned to Patty that I was"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "going to get a better look at it. I put"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "on my coat and grabbed my binoculars. I"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "looked at the clock on the TV and it"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "said 9:15. Okay. So, at this point, he's"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "going to go back through. We will not uh"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "cover that abduction again. But, uh he"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "does go into some interesting details"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "here, saying that his legs felt like"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "they were asleep."}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "The room resembled a hospital room, very"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "clean, very orderly. The air even seemed"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "clean, like oxygen was flowing into it,"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "sort of breezelike, but it had a"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "different smell, noticeably different."}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "Opening his eyes, he said, \"I looked"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "above me and the room and the ceiling"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "were the same color. Directly above me"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "was a rectangular shaped bar, flashing"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "lights.\" So, he goes on to describe the"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "beings as well, saying they looked very"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "pale and sort of soft skin with a sponge"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "look about them."}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Their dark brown eyes were very"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "distinct, perfectly round, and stark in"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "appearance."}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "They had no hair or eyebrows, nor was"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "any of the hair of any kind visible."}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "Their heads were unusually large and"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "bulging with small mouths and hardly any"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "jaw. They looked oriental yet familiar."}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "My first reaction was panic, but I felt"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "reassured by the look in their eyes."}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "This is so interesting. Okay, he does go"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "into greater detail and for for"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "redundancy sake I don't want to read the"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "entire thing but I will uh I will look"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "through this and and read portions that"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "I find to be uh valuable. He says I must"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "be inside the object. This must be some"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "kind of airlock or something. Who are"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "you? I asked. What are you doing in"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "Charleston? And to these questions I got"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "no answers. I decided not to be too"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "pushy or rude to keep calm and to try to"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "remember everything. I still felt clear"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "but in a days a mixture of both. I was"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "told come with us. This is where he goes"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "back into the place with the levers and"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "the buttons and the machinery. He says I"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "am told"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "the time is short. Come. And we leave"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "the room and walk into a hallway. walk"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "around the hallway and enter another"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "small room cramped like a closet and the"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "door shuts. There's a pause and the door"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "opens again. And then we enter a larger"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "room that is empty except for an immense"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "amount of machinery and luminous"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "objects. Large round balls and levers,"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "buttons, knobs of different colors. Uh"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "so almost like a transitional"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "uh hallway almost like an air lock like"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "something you would have on a spaceship"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "where perhaps the oxygen or you know air"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "quality is monitored in a different way"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "so that you have to block one room"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "before opening up another."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "Same type of things were observed on"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "Travis Walton's ship as well with these"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "doors swinging or or sort of uh sliding"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "open and closed. He then goes on asking"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "them like why tell me why not manifest"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "yourself. Uh oh. They say this is our"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "equilibrium manipulation chamber by"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "which we attain free flight. So they"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "actually give him a tour of the ship"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "which is quite standard for these type"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "of experiences. Uh but then he asks,"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "\"Why not manifest yourself to the"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "world?\" And and he got no response, no"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "Instead, they said, \"Come time is short,"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "it will soon be finished.\" And he asks,"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "\"Will I remember? Are you the leader,"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "the one in charge, and I understand that"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "I may think so if I so desire?\" We walk"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "out of that room into a cubicle room"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "again. The doors shut, a pause, they"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "open again, and we walk down the curved"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "hallway and enter a room with the table"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "again. \"What is that?\" I ask pointing to"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "the bar of lights now flashing again in"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "the same sequence as before. The"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "inculcation monitor or inculcation"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "monitor I hear. Will I remember? Why"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "tell me? Why show me all this? I am told"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "to lie down and I do so. It will all be"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "explained eventually. There is a reason."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "You will eventually understand. I hear."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "I gaze into the bar of lights. There is"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "something relaxing about it. I look"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "around me. One last look. Then I become"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "disoriented again. Very relaxed, almost"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "sleeping. and I lose consciousness."}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "Everything dims out. My eyes can't"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "focus. My legs get sleepy. I blackout."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "And now is where he's in this sort of"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "open field."}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "And then he goes on to uh describe his"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "uh his incredible, you know, story to"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "police and then subsequently to Coral"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "and Jim Laoren of AppPro."}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "Here,"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "by the way, are the beings. I've"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "featured the description of these beings"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "in in many videos before, especially"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "when we were talking about the snake"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "emblem that appeared. Here is one of the"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "first sort of appearances in that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "often referenced by Lucerta, which is"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "really interesting."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "So after this event, Bill's father and"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "his wife Patty picked him up and took"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "him home. He felt unclean and washed and"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "took his clothes off and put him in a"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "bag. Exhausted, he went into bed and"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "tried to forget the whole thing. He"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "slept fitfully. For many weeks after,"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "Bill was plagued by severe migraine"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "headaches, restlessness, and sleepless"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "nights. He could recall little detail of"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "what had happened to him. again par for"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "the course uh when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "abductions. The earliest of which was"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Antonio via Boaz who had also you know"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "had a bunch of sleepless nights, lost"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "his appetite, lost a bunch of weight, uh"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "vomited quite a bit, was very sick, had"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "migraines, um you know, this all sounds"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "like some type of radiation sickness."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "But even before the abduction and"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "shortly after is showing the 2 sec the"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "22 January color photographs to the air"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "base security officials. Are those the"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "ones on?"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "No, these are the ones from the 4th of"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "April."}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "A new and mysterious figure entered the"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "case. He claimed he was Tom Olsen, the"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "director of of a Ryderwood, Maryland UFO"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "research organization called UFO IRC,"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "UFO Information Retrieval Center. PO Box"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "57, Ryderwood, Maryland 21139."}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "Subsequent investigation proved this"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "identification to be entirely false."}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "The real Tom Olsen, the actual director"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "of UFOIRC,"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "knew nothing of the activities of the"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "man claiming to be him in Charleston."}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "Subsequent information indicates that"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "this impostor actually works for a"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "highranking man in the State Department"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "of the United States of all places."}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "After this first abduction, this"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "impostor continued to show up to"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "intimidate, threaten, and persuade Bill"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "Herman to be cool and keep his"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "experiences quiet. that he did not know"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "what he was getting himself into, etc."}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "This fake Tom Olsen also intercepted"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "mail and telephone calls between us and"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "the witness and between both the witness"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "and us to all other parties we contacted"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "concerning this case."}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "Oh, this might be some, you know, Men in"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "Black type stuff here. In early December"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "1978, about 9 months after the first"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "abduction aboard the craft, Bill Herman"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "sat down in his little study to try and"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "reproduce some of the symbol characters"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "he had seen aboard the ship during his"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "tour of the craft. Suddenly, his hand"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "began automatically writing. Regular"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "lines of a strange and completely"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "unknown script form, writing rapidly"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "from right to left in a manner"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "completely the opposite of all his"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "training and familiarity in writing. And"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "the flow of the characters was smooth"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "and uninterrupted until the end of the"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "message. He did not know what it said."}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "And in the course of time, he received"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "this same script form in four different"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "hands and styles of writing, but always"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "the same symbols or characters being"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "used. How interesting. [music]"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "After that first experience aboard the"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "alien craft, Herman developed a variety"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "of sensitive talents such as"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "clairvoyance, clair audience, and"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "precognition. Besides the automatic"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "writing,"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "these new faculties seem to have been"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "awakened in him while aboard the ship"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "but with a programmed delay in"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "recognition by him. They have in fact"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "already saved his life. Herman is"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "clearly told and with adequate"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "demonstration that these beings come"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "from a twin sun system in a star group"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "very sim very familiar to him. They said"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "that we have discovered these two suns"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "and we call them zeta 1 and zeta 2"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "reticuli. They carry on a rectangular"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "interstellar commerce between them and"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "other stars in their vicinity of our"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "galaxy, but only come here on"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "exploratory missions for their quote"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "unquote network. Our sun lies off their"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "regular lines of communications, but is"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "a point of interest to them in their"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "investigations of the cosmos. Okay, very"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "interesting here is a few things. One, a"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "network. You know, I often refer to"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "something as a system. We've read"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "through, you know, uh the Matilda Mroy"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "um case study of alien interrogation"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "where they mention something known as"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "the domain and how there's some type of"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "system uh monitoring the galaxy as well."}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "We also have a recent whistleblower on"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "Reddit. I say whistleblower very"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "loosely, but uh talk about a council"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "that is also monitoring planets. We also"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "hear this council talk from Jeremy"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "Weekes. I mean, it seems like more and"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "more information is coming. Well, it's"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "already been here, but I mean, I'm being"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "made aware of more and more of uh of"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "this information. And it seems like"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "there is some type of intergalactic"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "I don't want to say federation because I"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "know a lot of people you know they get"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "their own ideas of what a galactic"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "federation should be but it seems like"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "there is some type of"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "system in place that is monitoring and"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "that system might be communicating with"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "other races and this might be the reason"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "we hear about multiple species aboard"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "these craft being observed by"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "experiencers. Very very interesting"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "indeed. Any anytime we can gleam a"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "little bit of information about the"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "reason for these beings monitoring us or"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "or anything at all, their their craft,"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "their communications. I find it just so"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "fascinating, you know? It's like uh it's"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "like it's filling plot holes to like"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "this incredibly vast and complicated"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "science fiction novel. And uh I'm here"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "for it."}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "I'm here for it. On Saturday the 21st of"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "April 1979, Bill Herman saw the"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "spacecraft again several times, the last"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "being at 419. An hour later, he was in"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "the bedroom of his home working on some"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "of the sketches of the interior features"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "of the abduction ship. Suddenly, when he"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "was impelled to change paper and began"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "writing the alien script in the rapid,"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "crisp style, he filled two pages of"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "symbols again, writing from left to"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "right, [music] and then the writing"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "ended."}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "As it did so, the room began to fill"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "with a glow of blue light. Looking"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "around, he saw a squarish ball of"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "intense blue radiance in front of the"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "dresser. It was pulsating and getting"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "bigger as he watched. It grew in"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "intensity and size until it was too"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "bright to look directly at. It filled"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "the middle of the room, centering itself"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "over the corner of the dresser, and then"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "began to subside. As it grew dimmer, he"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "could make out a fuzzy, denser central"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "mass that also dimmed down in a few"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "seconds until the whole glow had"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "disappeared. In its place on the corner"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "of the dresser was a dark silver block"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "of metal."}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "He picked it up and examined it. It was"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "rectangular, like a small bar of"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "precious metal, of a size that easily"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "fit in the palm of his hand, and its top"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "was covered with symbols cut into the"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "metal surface. It was warmer than the"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "room when he picked it up. He hefted it"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "for a few minutes and then went to his"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "phone and called me, Colonel Stevens in"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "Tucson, still holding the artifact in"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "his hand. He described the event and"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "then the bar of metal he was holding. I"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "quickly snapped on my recorder and made"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "a copy of that conversation. He asked me"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "to notify John Fielding also, and I said"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "I would, and for him to stand by, that"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "if I could catch Jon right away, I would"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "have him call Herman back right away in"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "case he had any more questions. I caught"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "John at home and and advised him. I"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "waited a bit and then tried to call John"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "Fielding to see what he thought. His"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "line was busy for 45 minutes. When I"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "finally got through, he had the most"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "amazing story for me. He said that as he"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "was talking to Bill, Bill's voice broke"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "and he was panting. Then in growing"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "fright, he said the same blue glow was"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "growing in the bedroom again and was"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "getting brighter, flooding the doorway"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "and illuminating the hallway, followed"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "almost immediately by the street lights"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "outside and then the whole block."}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "Fielding was urging Bill to go and see"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "if another object was being left in the"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "bedroom by the glow when an alien being,"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "the same one who had escorted Herman on"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "the tour of the spacecraft, stepped out"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "of the bedroom into the darkened"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "hallway, now illuminated by a blue glow."}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "Herman's voice, now barely audible,"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "whispered, \"Oh my god, they're in my"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "house.\" Fielding told Herman to ask them"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "about the bar of metal, then said, \"Get"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "them on the phone. Let me talk to them.\""}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "This is This would have been my"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "reaction, too. I would Yeah, 100%. Ask"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "him if he wants to do the podcast. Tell"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "him to like and subscribe."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "Sir Herman said, \"This is so wild. This"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "is getting insane.\" Uh, sir, John"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "Fielding wants to talk to you. Do you"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "know him? He held the phone toward the"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "alien being. About that time, a second"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "alien stepped out of the bedroom and"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "then both stood in the hallway with that"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "blue light from the room bathing them."}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "They did not radiate any light, nor did"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "they carry any other lights of their"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "own. They were dressed in the same"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "suedelike one-piece suits Bill had seen"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "them wearing aboard the spacecraft in"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "March. The leader said telepathically,"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "\"We know of him. He can be trusted.\""}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "Then at John's insistence, Herman asked"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "about the bar of metal, and the leader"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "said again telepathically, \"That is a"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "gift for you.\""}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "Fielding recorded that entire"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "conversation also and sent me a copy in"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "the next mail. It arrived successfully"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "with no interference this time. The"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "strange events surrounding this case go"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "on and on. On the evening of 8th of May"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "1979, Bill and his wife had gone over to"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "Charleston Square to get a cassette tape"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "mailer and Bill went into the Radio"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "Shack store there to make a purchase. He"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "noticed a Model 80 home computer there"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "on sale. He stopped to look at it. The"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "set was on and there was a display"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "showing on the monitor video screen."}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Suddenly, the screen wiped clean and the"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "computer printout began to spell on the"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "now empty video screen Zeta 1 Reticuli."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "Zeta 2 Reticuli William Herman. Then it"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "spaced down and spelled the same thing"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "over and over again. When it finished,"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "the display remained on for a moment,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "and then the screen wiped wiped clean"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "again, and the original display appeared"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "on the screen once more. Dumbfounded and"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "incredulous, Herman looked around to see"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "if anyone else had noticed. He saw that"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "no one else was paying any attention."}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "Since the strange display had already"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "gone, he decided not to try and tell"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "anybody what had happened."}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "He went out to the nearest phone booth"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "and called me to report this newest"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "development. But all this was only a"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "prelude to what was still to come."}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "On the evening of 6th of May 1979,"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "I received an urgent call from Bill"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "Herman. He was calling to tell me that"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "the ET spacecraft was back in the Ashley"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "River area that evening and that he had"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "seen it twice already that day."}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "This always signified a major event"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "about to occur with the reticulent"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "and we both knew it which was the reason"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "for the call. He was worried about what"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "was going to happen and all the"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "conditions were right. He was alone"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "because his wife had gone to sit with"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "her invalid mother. He had been"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "receiving regular communications from"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "the reticulans in the form of telepathic"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "[music] clare audient and clairvoyant"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "transmissions and psychic projections"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "besides his automatic writing. All of"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "which were new to him. This had been"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "going on for several months and he had"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "reached the stage where he no longer"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "told his wife or his minister about them"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "because they found it disturbing and"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "thought it was the work of the devil. He"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "was in his trailer home alone and had"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "the peculiar feeling that something big"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "was about to occur. He had by this time"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "gotten over his fright from the first"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "abduction. After recovering full recall"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "of the event, he had come to respect and"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "even had warm feelings for those little"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "ETs. We had a number of conversations"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "about the possibility of his going"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "aboard the craft again. And he always"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "had reservations and whatifs that I"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "sought to overcome."}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "He had psyched himself into a"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "willingness to take the opportunity if"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "it were ever offered again because he"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "had a lot of additional questions he now"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "wanted to ask and things he wanted to"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "see once more. We both felt that since"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "Oh, this gets really interesting. This"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "is about to this is about to get really"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "interesting. We both felt that since the"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "contacts were still open and the"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "communications were pro progressing that"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "another opportunity might present itself"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "sometime in the future. He had even"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "received a long message in the alien"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "script form the previous night which he"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "still could not read. And now this"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "renewed activity today. He had felt"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "their presence all day which aroused"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "anxiety about what was developing and"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "raised all his old fears again."}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "He didn't know what he wanted to do and"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "in his indecision wanted more"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "discussion. His greatest concern was for"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "his family in case he did go aboard the"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "craft and didn't return immediately. He"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "asked for assurance that if he'd go out"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "to meet the spacecraft this evening and"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "was actually taken aboard that someone"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "would come to his home and look for"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Patty and his little daughter Mandy"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "until his return. I assured him that in"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "such an event I would see to it that his"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "wife and family were cared for until he"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "got back and that we would be waiting"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "for him there."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "I think that eased his mind a little and"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "he said he was prepared for whatever"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "might happen."}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "He had his camera, his notebook at the"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "ready and his binoculars with his"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "jacket."}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "At this point, there was a pause in"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "conversation"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "and then a note of surprised"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "astonishment in his voice as he"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "exclaimed, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "it's out there again now. I can see it."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "It's out there [music] now. Now's your"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "chance, Bill. You may never get another"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "one. Go on out there and try to meet"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "them. I will call Patty in the morning"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "to see if you're there. And if you're"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "not, I will tell her about this call and"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "what is happening and reassure her."}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "Someone will be there by the end of the"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "day to take care of her and all your"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "problems until you come back. You will"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "come back. I've followed a number of"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "these events [music] and the witness"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "always comes back."}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "Some stayed for days. Try to stay as"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "long as they will let you offer to help"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "them to work with them. Try to get"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "something for us to study. Bring"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "something, anything back. Even a button,"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "a knob, a piece of paper, a corner of"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "material, anything. Don't worry about"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "here. I can do what I promise. Try to"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "get pictures. You may not have to work"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "again if this is handled right."}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "I'm going on out. I'll call you later."}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "He hung up the phone and left me"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "standing there, dimly realizing that"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "this was a first in Euphology."}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "A witness [music]"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "has just informed me that he is going"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "out to meet an extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "spacecraft, a ship from another world,"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "and I am to patiently wait for his"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "return. I looked at the clock. It was"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "12:25 a.m. Charleston time. Going to end"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "it there, folks, for today."}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "Things are getting stranger yet in"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "Charleston, South Carolina."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "You know, in looking at these photos,"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "it is"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "quite difficult to imagine"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "the"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "overwhelming"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "Aldridge sense of fear"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "that you must feel observing something"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "so unfamiliar."}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "It's hard for my human brain"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "to"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "comprehend that these might not be"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "hoaxes."}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "And I I feel like many of you are in of"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "the same sort of mindset."}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "Yeah, they make you think. That's for"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "sure. And notice the angle. They're like"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "tilted as well. They're usually always"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "tilted. Fascinating. Fascinating. From"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "the daytime to the nighttime"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "descriptions of the craft,"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "the beings, the message, the automatic"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "writing, the"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "sort of development of psychic ability."}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "All of this is really intriguing, rather"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "fantastical,"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "and uh definitely"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "makes me"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "hungry for more of um you know, of these"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "type of encounters. If you enjoyed this"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "particular brand of video,"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "um please let me know. We are going to"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "be covering all of the items that I have"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "purchased in this auction. Now, I have"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "backed up these items and they are being"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "stored in a facility uh very very safe"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "um just in case."}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "But we are going to be looking at these"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "photos from time to time and"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "investigating with um you know with the"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "help of a lot of the work of Colonel"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "Wendell Stevens, but also a lot of these"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "old magazines that I have that looked"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "into these photos back in the day and"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "tried to rejuvenate and bring some life"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "back into them a little bit."}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "As many of you know, Jesse Michaels and"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "myself are going on tour, doing a live"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "podcast tour in 2026. currently. I'm not"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "sure if they've opened any more dates,"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "but we have Montreal and Austin. Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "it's going to be a great time. We have"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "fantastic guests that you'll definitely"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "recognize if you watch the show and uh"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "we look forward to bringing you a brand"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "new sort of live experience this year"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "and uh look forward to meeting all of"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "you in person as well. So guys, thanks"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "so much for checking this out. Go to"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "area52.shop shop. 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That's all I care"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "about is that you watch it."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> I don't think there's a better, more"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "well doumented recent case in the world."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "They captured one."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "some of the most compelling eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "testimony in few a alien being."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> It was like an entire family and they"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "all saw this object and it was really"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "big shaped like a disc. Zero noise."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> A police chief saying, \"Yeah, there was"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "aliens.\""}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> The alien was alive in this bed right"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "there. And so they came up, I don't"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "know, 2:00, 3:00 in the morning and came"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "out there and they saw this cigar-"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "shaped submarine or the size of a big"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "school bus."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "this seal."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> All the animals were going crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "[music] And he said he got out of the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "car and the smell was so overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "like a ammonia and and sulfur. There was"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "some sort of weird chemical acid on the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "on the grass. It was burning the grass."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> I I had forgotten that he had touched"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the [music] craft. He had a piece in his"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "hand."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Yes. I could feel that anxiety in my"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "stomach. Carlosa gone. Unreachable."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "26"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "years gone. Once they did the test on"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the bacteria, determined that this is"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "nothing like they've seen in their"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "entire careers. It was a strain of a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "bacteria that they've seen, but not the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "way this was evolved in the way it was."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "It was nothing could stop it."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "It's the biggest most significant"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "development in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "phenomenon because I challenge anyone"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "out there to show me testimony from"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "anyone, particularly a neurosurgeon,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> an [music] active neurosurgeon, not"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "retired,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> not retired, who's putting his entire"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "career on the line to say, \"I had"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "face-to-face contact, telepathic"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "communication for 3 to four minutes with"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "an alien."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Hi, my name's Alex and on February 22nd,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "2022, I was working as a crew member on"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "a TV show at Austin Studios in Austin,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Texas."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "And in the early afternoon hours, we"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "witnessed a craft that was spinning in a"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "clockwise direction"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "about 3 to 6,000 ft above the studio. 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While we"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "tracked the orb, the craft disappeared."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Never saw it again that day. 5 weeks"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "later, on March 31st, 2022, I witnessed"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the craft in the same location at the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "same studio at a height of about 1,000"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "ft. And it was massive. It was about the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "size of a coach bus spinning in the same"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "clockwise direction"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "with no decals, no windows, no visible"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "sense propulsion, moving in the same"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "clockwise direction towards the horizon."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "I also witnessed this with two other"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "crew members at the time and have had no"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "explanation as to what it is."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, before we get into"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "today's video, I want to introduce an"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "exclusive clip that we've been given"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "courtesy of James Fox. This clip"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "features Dr. Italo Ventterelli who was"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the neurosurgeon who actually"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "um telepathically communicated with this"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "being as it was lying in the hospital"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "bed. I also want to say that this was"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "not abundantly clear in James'"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "documentary, but many people have"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "addressed this online afterwards that"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Italo had in fact kind of changed his"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "story where initially he said he'd seen"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "a video of the being and now he says"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "that he was in the room with the being."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "The reason for that, from what I"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "understand, is that he did not want to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "thrust himself into the limelight. Many"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "people working at that same hospital"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "obviously felt the same by keeping their"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "privacy and anonymity."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "They would remove themselves"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "from any potential harm to their career"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "or to their lives after suffering a near"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "fatal heart attack and also losing his"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "partner. Um earlier Italo had a change"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "of heart in that moment"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "and decided to come clean on what"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "exactly he saw. Now he puts his"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "reputation on the line as a"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "neurosurgeon. He is someone you would"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "trust to operate on your brain for 13"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "hours straight and as we find out later"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "in our interview"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "was actually fired due to his earlier"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "comments prior to the release of this"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "and they have since reinstated his"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "position because the hospital couldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "function to its fullest capacity without"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "him."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "So if you're thinking that he is not fit"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "to be a doctor because of these claims,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "you are sorely mistaken. He is still a"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "practicing brain surgeon. I will let the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "video play for itself in its original"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "language to convey both his emphasis,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "his cadence, and his genuine"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "message after which the podcast will"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "begin. Please enjoy this message from"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Dr. Italo Venturelli."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Imunist"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "forch."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "foreign."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "you knowific Fore."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Boom. This feels familiar."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> It does. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "It's almost a year. It's been almost"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "exactly actually a year. Um, actually"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "January would make it a year since you"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "graced us with your presence here in the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "skiff. James Fox, welcome."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Thank you so much for having me on."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Before we start, I have to say one"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "thing. This will be a first."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Okay. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "How long have you been rehearsing this?"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "And how long have you been holding it"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "from me?"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> Oh, 20 years."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> That's crazy. [laughter] Crazy French"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "tongue twister for all of you that"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "thought your um the the video was"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "glitching. [laughter] Um yeah, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "actually. We went out to dinner last"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "night and I didn't realize how good your"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "French is."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> Oh, thank you."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Very good. Very uh Parisian."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Very Parisian. Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Yeah. You spent a lot of time in in"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> I lived in Paris. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah. How long?"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> Two years."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Wow. And you picked all that up in two"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "years. That's pretty good."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> Well, I I really immersed myself and I"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "had a roommate who didn't speak a stitch"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "of English, which was incredibly"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "frustrating. His name is Andre Lavek."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "And uh first three to five months"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "particularly when we were arguing over"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "something I was so frustrated cuz I was"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "like I couldn't communicate with this"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "guy and English wasn't on the table at"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> But after five six months it really plus"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "I was going to school."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> And so that really helped and I wanted"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "to learn it."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> I like that you folded and he didn't."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> He's like this is Paris. I will not"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "speak"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> English. We got into an argument. Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "He I like chocolate. I'm a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "chocolate fan. As you noticed, last"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "night I got chocolate cake. I love"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "chocolate."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> And he's like, \"Oh.\" He's like, \"Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "so you have to put salt on your"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "chocolate. Dark chocolate maybe.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> It brings out, \"But I didn't want salt."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "This is like years ago. Nobody put salt"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "on their chocolate.\" I was like, \"No, I"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "don't want salt on.\" He goes, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "then you cannot have, you know.\""}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> So we got this argument. So every time I"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "see chocolate with salt on top, I think"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "of this guy Andre Lavak. He's like,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "\"Well, fine. You're not, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "take his"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> So stupid."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> So stupid."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> Amazing."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> um, speaking of chocolate, let's segue"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "to Aliens."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> Um, you, sir, have just released"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "the next phase of Moment of Contact by"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "the time this airs."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "and which is to you know for me possibly"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "the most convincing case of not only"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "crash retrieval but of being interaction"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "that I've ever heard. It is I am I will"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "say with confidence I'm not one to sling"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "around I believe or I don't believe. I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "am at as near 100% conviction that this"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "is true as I can possibly be especially"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "after this latest iteration. And it is"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "an update to the previous Moment of"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Contact. What's the full title?"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Uh it's it's Moment of Contact and then"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Colon New Revelations of Alien"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Encounters."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Unbelievable"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "unprecedented"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> interviews with, you know, for anyone"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "out there thinking, \"Oh, yeah, it's just"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "some towns folk and a farmer and a No."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "And by the way, I believe farmers, too."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> No slight to farmers. actually believe"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "them a lot more than most people."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Uh but we're talking uh pathologists,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "we're talking neurosurgeons who are head"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "of multiple hospitals, we're talking"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "police chiefs, we're talking uh really"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "the most credible people that a"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "community could produce."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> And all of this happened"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "almost exactly 30 years ago."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> Yeah. And if if you don't mind, I I kind"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "of like to just back up a moment here"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "because, you know, um I think it's"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "important for people to realize like I"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "didn't just believe it cuz I heard like,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "oh, a UFO crash and a lot of aliens."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> In fact, it was quite the opposite."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> When I heard about this case, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "working on my second"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> my second UFO documentary turned out to"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "be out of the blue."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "And I've said this before and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "to say it again. I I heard about it"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "through my partner that we were"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "producing out of the blue with and he's"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "like, \"Oh, mate, you know, we got to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "look into this this crash case in"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Brazil, you know, and and these live"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "aliens walking through the town.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> sounds absurd."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> I couldn't have dismissed it faster. I"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "mean, it was like, \"Yeah, you're nuts."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "I'm not going to spend one second"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "looking into that absolute garbage of a"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "case.\""}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> Yeah. And and I remember probably I mean"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "I I made I made out of the blue. Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Didn't look into it. Refused to read one"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "thing about it"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "that out of blue came out. Then I made"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "another documentary. Um I know what I"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "saw which took me probably three or four"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "years. And uh that was a 2-hour special"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "for the History Channel. And at the end"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "of that I got invited to give a"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "presentation in in Brazil on the film I"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "had done. I know what I saw. And a"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "really good friend of mine who's been"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "very influential behind the scenes and"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "helping me get uh you know distribution"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "and stuff like that and never wanted"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "credit, never wanted a penny. His name"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "was uh Jeff Sagansky and I had a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "respect for him. Very high up on the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "entertainment industry, food chain."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "And he's like, \"Oh, James, you're going"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "to Brazil.\""}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": ">> This is years later. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": ">> You're going to Brazil. Oh, you got to"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "look into that that you know that UFO"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "crash case with live aliens in Vargia."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "And I thought"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> he was persistent. God, not No, this is"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "another guy."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> So, my other partner was This is your"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "second sign."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> This is the second. Well, so he tells me"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "and and I was like, God, not this case."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "But I had so much respect for him and he"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "was so helpful and influential that I"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "just said,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> \"Yeah, Jeff. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'll"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "definitely look into that for you for"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "absolutely. Yeah, for sure. All right."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "You take care. Goodbye.\" Click. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "I'm not going to I'm not going to waste"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "one second on that ridiculous case."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> Jeff, change your life. I I just really"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "want people to understand like how"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "opposed to this case I was and I was"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "making UFO documentaries like I just"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "totally completely respect any"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "skepticism. All I ask is that the people"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "suspend judgment."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> And just listen to the firsthand"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "eyewitness testimony because it's"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "riveting."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> In your defense,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "somebody saying crash saucer, crash"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "craft beings running around town, most"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "people would have the same reaction. you"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "weren't confronted with the amount of"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "evidence that you've compiled."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> When you know this was brought to your"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "attention, nobody came up to you and"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "said, \"Well, there's a head neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "that actually will testify that he"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "looked at the live being in the eyes for"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "several minutes and had telepathic"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "communication with him.\" You weren't"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "told, \"Oh, there's a pathologist that"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "once they did the test on the bacteria"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "determined that this is nothing like"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "they've seen in their entire careers.\""}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "And these guys have been working for 45"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "years as professional pathologists and"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "have done a million, you know, uh,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "biological tests and have never seen"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "anything. This isn't, you weren't"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "confronted with, uh, a police chief"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "saying, \"Yeah, there was aliens.\" This"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "was all prior to that. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "you're forgiven. And I think most people"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "would have felt the same way. But things"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "have changed. You've been to Brazil over"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "15 times. Well, how many times? I I've"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "gone I'll by the time this airs I would"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "have been there three times this year"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "alone."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": ">> Three times this year. So you've been"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "going for 15 years. What I meant to say?"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> Yes. 15 16 years. Yeah. And I going back"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "and forth and going there not believing"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "it. Yeah. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> quite the contrary, I reluctantly after"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "meeting with with Stanton Freriedman who"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "just so happened to be in the same place"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "I was invited to the same conference I"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "was on my first time."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> And I was like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": ">> he was high conviction on it too. He's"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "like, he's like, \"Oh, James, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "cuz somehow it came up at the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "conference.\" And we were in a place"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "called Perui to the south of Sa Paulo."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "It was on the coast. In fact, I know it"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "was on the coast. And uh he's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "yeah. You know, you heard about the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "case.\" I was like, \"Oh, God.\" I started"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "rolling my eyes and I was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "I've heard about it, but you know, come"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "on. Live aliens walking.\" And then"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Stanton's like, \"No, man. It's you"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "should look into that."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "And Stanton is the reason why him and a"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "handful of others that we know Kevin"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Randall and Don"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": ">> I mean John Mack."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Well, of course. Yeah. But I was just"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "saying that that I had so much respect"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "for him because because of him we're"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "talking about Roswell, right? Kevin"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "Randall and Don of others."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> So I was like,"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "okay, I'll I'll I'll take a look. I'll"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "I'll take a look. And I and I I hooked"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "up with a guy Marco Leal who deserves"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "colossal amount of credit and he was"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "kind of into it early on. I think maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "he had been at it for six years when"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "when when we met and and uh you know"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "there was other researchers that came"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "before me. Cladio Kovo, uh, AJ Gavard,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "uh, Uber Dejada Rodriguez, Pakuchini,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "uh, Marco Pati, those guys deserve"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "credit really."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": ">> And but there, you know, there was I"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "think it was only one article when it"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "happened in um, I think it was the Wall"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "Street Journal written by one guy and it"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "was like basically stinky aliens get the"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "attention of, you know, the town in in a"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "in a place in Brazil and it was somewhat"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "dismissive and but that was it. It was"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "the only news coverage it got in"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "America. That one little article in the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Wall Street Journal in 1996."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": ">> that was it. So, Americans didn't hear"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "about it. Even though the Americans and"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "I didn't realize the Americans were"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "involved with the case until like over a"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "decade."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> Yeah. They kept a really tight lid."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> They almost They almost got away with"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> They almost got away with it."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> They did."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> That's so crazy. Um, so today what I'd"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "like to go through with you, thank you"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "for that for uh bringing us all up to"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "date. Um,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> there are several several new pieces of"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "information, testimony, and not just"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "anecdotal evidence, but actual um actual"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "evidence of this being completely an"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "anomalous event."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": ">> Uh that features many, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "anomalies within it."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> Yes. And so what we're going to do today"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "is I'd like to go through basically I"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "watched the documentary and I took all"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "my notes and I'd like to go through"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "certain parts uh for you to maybe go"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "into a little bit more detail and"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "because of cutting you know we couldn't"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "get into those uh in the film. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "also I want to spend a large part of"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "this time going through the case of"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Marco Terresy and his autopsy report"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "which I've been provided."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": ">> Um, I have a copy of the autopsy report"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "which we've had translated. And for"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "those of you who do not know, uh, Mr."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "crazy was in the military and he was he"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "was the person who took this being in"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "his arms and brought him into the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "hospital and then developed a severe"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "bacteriological"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "viral illness that uh killed him within"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "weeks"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> and it was a complete mystery"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> y"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> until now. Now we kind of have a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "more evidence about that. So I think"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "it's just a really important case."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And uh thank you Dr. Janini who"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "the founder of IPD who did the uh"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "analysis back in 1996 and thank you Dr."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Armando"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "for having the courage to come forward"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "on camera for this latest cut and put"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "your necks out for the rest of us"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "because these people have everything to"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "lose nothing to gain lifelong"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "reputations in their field and"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "essentially particularly Dr. Janine is"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "coming forward and saying I've never"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "seen anything like it before. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> I've never seen anything like it since."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "And I've done thousands and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "of analysis, you know, forensic"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "pathologists for for decades."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": ">> And and I want to get to that because"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "there's also Dr. uh Fertado."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> The cardiologist."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> who who who uh Marco went to go see"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "right uh right at the beginning because"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "he had he had problems. This was like uh"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "this was mentioned that Marco came clean"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "to this doctor because he's like,"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> \"Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, sorry. Yes. I need"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "you to save my life. Um because"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "essentially he was ill and he spilled"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the beans in hopes that it would help"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "him find some type of cure with his"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "illness and what was going on with him."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> So um yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "are we talking specifically about Marco"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Sharice right now? Because Yeah. Okay. I"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "was going to say what led us to the"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "other guy, but yeah, we can laser like"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "focus on that."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": ">> Let's let's go let's start a little bit"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "before that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. So, I want to start with"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "Carlos Duza."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": ">> Uh Carlos, who was the original crash"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "witness that you featured in the first"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "moment of contact."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:01", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": ">> Has an incredible emotional reaction to"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "the crash site where he literally falls"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "to his knees and cries."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": ">> Um just a startling piece of footage"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "watching that. Yeah. You know, so I'm so"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "glad you guys caught that on video. That"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "was just such a powerful moment. And"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> Carlos is a geography professor. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "So, you know, he's not uh"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": ">> and an ultralight pilot"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": ">> and Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, um"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "he's got a keen eye. He's a credible"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "witness and you know, you were able to"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "talk to him and bring him to the crash"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "site. Can you tell me [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": ">> what it was like watching him just start"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "running"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "and and and being, you know, telling"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "you, \"It's here, Aki. Aki.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "\"It's here. It's here.\" That was just so"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "such an emotional piece. Well, it was"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "really initially quite frustrating"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "because we uh Marco Leal had found"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "because Okay, so I'm going to back up"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "for a minute. I did a film called The"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Phenomenon and in The Phenomenon, I"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "worked for five or six years, maybe a"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "little longer, on the Virgini case, you"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "know, and I was introducing Rua. I did a"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "bunch of cases around the world, one in"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Australia, one in Africa, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "cases scattered across the world. And"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "one of the cases I was going to cover in"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the film was Varja."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "But at the end of the day, I got towards"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the end of the phenomenon and I just"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "thought, you know, this really doesn't"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "fit and I'm missing critical witnesses."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "We're missing the guy, the crash witness"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "that came forward one time and then"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "vanished for 26 years. There was just"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "other aspects of the story and I decided"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "to delete it out of the film which was a"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "very painful day. I call it killing your"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "darlings. And I remember the very day"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "when I in the timeline and all the work"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "I done and all the you know transcribe"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "you know the subtitle everything just"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "click boom gone. And [clears throat] um"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "and Marco was devastated. He's like"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "we've been working on this for so long."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "I can't believe you did that. I was like"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "Marco there's more witnesses we got to"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "find. I like I can't squeeze it in here."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "It's just it's not going to work. We're"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "we're going to make a film on this case"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "but we got to go and find these"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "witnesses. We got to find the crash"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "witnesses. we got to find, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "Carlos Suza and and and many others. And"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "so I said, we're going to we're going to"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "put a laser-like focus on this case and"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "we're going to make a movie just about"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "this case cuz it it warrants it."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "Marco with with the help of other"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Brazilian researchers and they found"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "Carlos Aosa and managed to get him to"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "consider coming forward. And then we met"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "with him. We we flew there, I think it"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "was in 2021 with the camera crew. and we"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "were going to be there for a month and"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "he agreed to come meet with us in Sa"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Paulo which he did and then we had"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "facetime with him and hey man can we"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "take you back for the first time in 26"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "27 years whatever it's been to the crash"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "site"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": ">> wow"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> you hadn't been there since 96"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "uh would you do you know and he agrees"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "to do it"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "so we go off to the the site and we're"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "driving around aimlessly and and you"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "know my farm just outside Vargia"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "and he can't find the bloody crash site."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "And we were looking all over in the"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "movie. It's condensed to just a few"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "minutes. I I don't could have been an"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "hour, could have been two hours. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "thinking to myself, how does this guy"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "not know where the bloody crash site is?"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "Like I mean, oh yeah, it's been over a"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "quarter of a century."}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": ">> And I'm thinking, this movie is not off"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "to a good start. M you know we hadn't"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "gotten like military acts and these"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "other people cuz you find a witness and"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "just because you find the witnesses"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "getting them to come forward on camera"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "even anonymously is nearly impossible"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "like I can't even tell you Marco Leal"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "deserves so much credit he would massage"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "contacts with us for 5 years 6 years"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "gets out there he's he he can't find it"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "like he doesn't recognize anything that"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "the topography had changed you"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "So I'm thinking to myself like, man,"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "Jesus, this is, you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "terrible. So then I had a drone and he"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "kept saying there's a white house and I"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "said, how you no, I know there's one"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "aspect of this. There was a white a"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "small white house. I took the drone up"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "in the in the sky and I remember seeing"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "this tiny little roof off in the"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "distance. Some trees had grown. I guess"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "you couldn't see it from where we were."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "And I was like, \"Okay, this could be"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "it.\" And we were and we were running"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "down to that spot and I remember my"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "cameraman, he was old older guy, Dave"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "West, he's amazing, but he was like,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "\"Slow down.\" You know, like you you got"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "to slow you got to slow down. I can't,"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "you know, I can't be I said, \"Dave, if"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "you can't, you know, this is happening."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "This is unraveling as it's unraveling"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "and you're going to have to capture the"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "moment or not.\" Like, and so we're all"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "running and we're we're just chasing"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "after him because he"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> cuz he's like, \"Stop the car. Stop the"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "car.\" You see it like panic in his eyes."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "He's like, \"Stop driving now. It's"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "here.\" and he's run and he's running"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "down to the spot and you could just see"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "like it's all happening. He's reliving"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "everything. He's looking around. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "you could just see in his face and tears"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "flowing down his face and it's a very"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "dramatic moment in the in the movie and"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "I was like"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "I was extremely grateful that it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "a reenactment, man. We we c we captured"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "it as it as it unraveled and it was just"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "amazing. But I tell you, two hours"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "prior, I was thinking the whole time"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "like, [ __ ] this is not going well."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I'm I'm glad you caught that."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "Um, it was amazing even to see him have"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "a branch"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> because the craft that crashed there was"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "like a tube like structure. It was like"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "some cigar like you know"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": ">> and you know with with a a breach in the"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "hall and it was like it was going down"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "and and he kind of did this and then he"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "went like this and I'm like cuz when"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "you're explaining with your hand the UFO"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "is here and then it went here you don't"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "really visualize it but when he had the"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "stick and he went like this and I was"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "like whoa that must be so wild to"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "witness."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> I have that stick in my office in my"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "edit room. I look at it every day."}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": ">> Yeah"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": ">> I do. And it even had like a torn bit at"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "the backside, which is exactly what the"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "craft he described. Everyone who saw the"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "craft"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": ">> either struggling in the sky."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": ">> Said that it had a tear in the back of"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "it and they had like a white vapor smoke"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "coming out."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:08", "text": ">> Yeah. The farm the farmers that live"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "nearby"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> Enrico and Oralini"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:15", "text": ">> Um the fretas"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> they they also they also said there was"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "a a breach in in the back."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": ">> Yes. And they said that they wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "have heard it or seen it had it not been"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "for the animals on their farm going."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Yeah. All the animals were going crazy."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "And so they came up, I don't know, 2:00,"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "3:00 in the morning, and they came out"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "there and they saw this cigar- shaped"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "submarine or the size of a big school"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "bus, all like aluminum cigar, aluminum"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "with a gash in the back with white"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "vapor, not like a smoke from a fire."}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "They described it as a white vapor"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "coming out the back. And and she was"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "like, I was just waiting for it to hit"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "the ground like it it was struggling to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "stay in the air"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> silently. Then we have a new witness and"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "for the first time in this cut we got"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "maps, Google maps and we did you know"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "graphics of like okay this is where this"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "person this is for this is the Orina"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "this is where the actual thing crashed"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "according to Carlos and it all made"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "perfect sense."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> Yeah of course right there it's like"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": ">> what a beautiful visualization for"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "anyone trying to piece that together"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "because if you've not been you have no"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "idea."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": ">> No and and you don't know if they're"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "going to all align. I don't know. At the"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "time it was like we got the map. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "like oh my lord."}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": ">> You guys did that in the first one with"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "the sort of suburb of you know the town."}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Yeah. The encounter where we had the"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "different blockades and we had you know"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "where the girls saw the being and"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": ">> uh but yeah to to to see all the all it"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "all map out like that like wow that's"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "exactly where the witnesses would be at"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "that angle. And so yeah that was great."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "And and we don't have to get into this"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "now, but we also make the connection for"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "the first time. We had featured, which"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "in my opinion is one of the better night"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "shots of a disc craft. And"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": ">> I want to get to that. That is Yeah. For"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "me, I mean, I was like the UFO nerd in"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "me is like,"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:03", "text": ">> dude, that's authentic."}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": ">> That's"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": ">> it. It lines up with, you know, all the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "stories you hear from uh was it Chuck"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "Clark? Um, I mean, Chuck Clark talked"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "about he had a copy of a disc, but"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. But it lines up with what"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "the stories that you hear about what he"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "saw, which is like this orange glowing"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "thing. If you look at also there's the"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "uh the guy in in Mexico who uh Carlos"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Diaz."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Carlos Diaz. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": ">> You know, his photos line up with that."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "And there's several others that really"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "uh even I I think even um Bob Lazar's"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "case when they went out to S4 on those"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "few nights to it's kind of the same"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "thing. This glowing molten thing, right?"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": ">> It's like like the skin is alive."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Like like it's roing dynamic."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": ">> Yes. Like like phosphorus on a beach."}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "The whole thing is just glowing like"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "it's all energy source or something."}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> So you know we have Carlos Daza is it"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "pronounced or Duza? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": ">> could be"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": ">> Carlos Duza to Cassa. I've heard it"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "pronounced Carlos Daza. It's Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": ">> All right. Um, we have him then after"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "that going to a gas station for coffee"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "and being accosted by a gentleman um who"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "told him basically, \"You're not to talk"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "about this and you're too shut which is"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "par for the course when it comes to the"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "UFO stuff, but exactly what happened to"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "like absolutely everybody you've talked"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "to. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:30", "text": ">> In that movie as well, they all say the"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "exact same thing, whether it was from"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "the Americans or whether it was from,"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "you know, the uh Brazilian military."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, so that happens now,"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": ">> but before so, so when Carlos was"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "driving on the freeway early in the"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "morning to go ultra light flying, um, he"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "saw in the sky was early in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "4:30, 5:00 a.m., something like this. He"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "saw that cigar- shaped craft exactly"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "like the other witness has described,"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "and he was like, \"What?\" And he was"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "thinking like"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": ">> maybe some sort of experimental craft or"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "some military secret military thing. He"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "didn't know what it was, but he was"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "like, \"Clearly those guys at are in"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "trouble. They're in trouble and it's"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "going down.\""}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> Pilot to pilot. He was like,"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": ">> \"Yeah.\" So, he got off the freeway and"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "he saw it just crash into the ground."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "And he came up there and he was"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "thinking, \"I'm going to help the pilots."}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "I'm going to He never once thought"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "extraterrestrial. He never thought UFO.\""}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "He was just like, \"I got to help.\" And"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "he arrived at the scene and he said"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "there was a half a piece of the cigar-"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "shaped craft about the half the size of"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "a large school bus intact. And then the"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "other half was scattered over a very"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "large area, bigger than a football field"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "of small sort of like aluminum pieces of"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "different shapes, torn. And um and he"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "said he got out of the car and the smell"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "was so overwhelming like of like ammonia"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "and and sulfur. Like he said he grabbed"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "his shirt and put it over his face. He"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "just couldn't believe how strong his"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "eyes were watering. there was some sort"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "of weird chemical acid on the on the"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "grass that was burning the grass and he"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "picked up one of these little pieces."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "He's just scratching his head. He's so"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "baffled and he said he held it in his"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "hands and he said [clears throat] it was"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "like so light that he couldn't really"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "feel it in his hands and he could"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "crumple it up and then when he let it go"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "it would reform into the shape that it"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "was in when he picked it up. And this"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "was happening and he's just ba he's"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "baffled as what you know what is this?"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "And that's when military trucks from the"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "base Eza had come in from the opposite"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "direction that he arrived and they"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "threatened him at gunpoint to leave. And"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "that at which point he got in his car,"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "he left. And then 10 15 minutes later"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "while he was he stopped just to gather"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "himself at a at a a gas station cafe and"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "he was having a coffee and that's when"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "these men rolled up in suits and"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "threatened him."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": ">> I I had forgotten that he had touched"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "the craft. He had a piece in his hand."}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": ">> Yes. and resembles a lot of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "the Roswell lore as well about the"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "memory metal or whatever."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": ">> Unbelievable. And then the smell,"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "obviously, the tying,"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": ">> you know, the string that ties this all"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "together is this overwhelming smell of"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "ammonia and sulfur,"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": ">> which is also comically the only thing"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "that made it to this article in the"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "United States about the stinky aliens."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "I'm going to say one more thing, and"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "this is something that I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "recently, is I'm asking all the"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "witnesses, the firsthand witnesses,"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "people like Carlos and Dr. Etolo, which"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "we'll get to later, if they're willing"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "to take a public lie detector test, and"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "they're all immediately without a"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "moment's hesitation. Yes."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> With my right hand on a Bible, I will."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> And if there's anybody else watching"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "this that, you know, obviously this"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "might be translated into many different"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "languages on YouTube, they do that"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "automatically now. And so if there's"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "anyone out there in Virginia who has any"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "more information about any of this, I"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "think it's good to put it at the top of"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "the episode."}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": ">> Can I give you my Proton uh texted to"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "you and you can put it across the"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "screen? Absolutely. Reach out to us."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": ">> Yep. Feel free to reach out to James if"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "you have any, you know, information on"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "this that you think could aid in his"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "research and into the investigation of"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "what happened,"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": ">> particularly on the American side."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, if you're over"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "here and you have any information about"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "it. Oh, let's go."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> Yeah, that would be interesting."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> We'll get it out. want to hear from you."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "[gasps]"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:16", "text": ">> Uh yeah, cuz that ties everything"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "together and we'll get to that foyer"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "request uh as well."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> Um so then after this happens, this"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "military blockade starts happening"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "around town. And this is a town that's"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "not familiar with this type of activity."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> It's about a week later."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": ">> Yeah. And Oh, is it a week later?"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": ">> Several days later. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": ">> Wow. Okay. So, the crash retrieval"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> Whoa. I didn't realize it was that long"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "after. I thought it was immediately."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> No, not immediately. It was several"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "days. Yeah. And I know it's really it's"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "a it's a head scratcher because you know"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "there's"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> that mean these aliens were running"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "around for a few days."}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": ">> There's all there's all this speculation"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "as to how they got from that location to"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "town and there's some waterways when we"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "looked at overhead. There's some"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "waterways. So possibility of waterways"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "that would lead to where they were"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "spotted in town. But"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> again, this is speculation."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. But all you can do is"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": ">> some people say there was a pod, an"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "escape pod. There's that's that's one,"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "you know, theory. Nobody really knows."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "And and I talked to some of the most"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "leading researchers in Brazil that have"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "been scratching their heads on this"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "case. Was there other were there other"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "crashes during that time? You know, I"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "don't think anyone has a definitive"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "answer to that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": ">> But the the most plausible according to"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "everyone that I've talked to is that"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "they managed to get their way. You they"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "were hiding out"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": ">> by the water. Through the water"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:35", "text": ">> through the water through the waterways."}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": ">> that's speculation. It is speculation"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "obviously but also you know because"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "later on we'll encounter this family an"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "entire family by the way who's got"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "nothing to gain everything to lose"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> uh that came out and said you know there"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "was this disc that was spinning"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:52", "text": ">> didn't want to go on camera"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:54", "text": ">> no they were just but they were so"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "excited to talk about it finally and"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "then other people in town who also"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "admitted to the same thing that there"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "was this reconnaissance effort that"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "seemed to everybody said the same thing"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "it looked like it was looking for"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "something and that's just like something"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "that I suppose you'd have to experience"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "to understand cuz I'm like how could you"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "determine but if you look at the pattern"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "something's doing you're like it's"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "looking for something and not only that"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": ">> but this is something else it just like"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "I I got goosebumps just thinking about"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "it because when we were at their house I"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "had flown the drone up prior to that"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "really high to get a really good you"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "know I put the camera straight down I"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "really want to get a lay of the land I"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "want to see where the where the creature"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "was allegedly captured by Eric Lopes and"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "Marco Shrezy I want to see where the"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "girls encounter the creature like you"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "know in proximity to where it was"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "captured and in one shot"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "let's just say you know okay for several"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "block area you know you got like this so"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "the girls see it here captured here just"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "a few blocks away and then five blocks"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "away is the the family that we"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "interviewed the entire family the mother"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "the husband the daughter they were right"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "here and that craft was flying exactly"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "over the area where all this went down."}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> that was like"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> So whatever your drone was seeing was"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "what the craft was seeing essentially."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:12", "text": ">> Yeah. And not only that, but it was"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, it makes perfectly"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "good sense. If if there was a a search"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "and rescue effort, I know it sounds"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "crazy, but if there was an"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "extraterrestrial or whatever search and"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "rescue effort, that's exactly where it"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "would have been.\""}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": ">> Yep. And and I think at this point with"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "the amount of evidence you brought"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "forward, it's safe to assume that that"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "is a possibility."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> Extreme possibility. And that's getting"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "into that video footage that you and I"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "could talk about a little later. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "sir."}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> That's impressive."}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": ">> It really is. Um, so this military"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "blockade happens a week later, which is"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "wild. Um, this town smells it's the"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "smell is being carried out. It's"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "probably being talked about by everyone."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "So, at which point, everyone's pretty on"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "board that something weird is happening."}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "In fact, the news crew then gets alerted"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "about, you know, hey, maybe we should"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "investigate this blockade. First time"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "that we have all three reporters that"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "were there going on camera for me. I'd"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "heard about I'd gotten one, nay, but not"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "the two others. And they went on camera"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "for the first time basically saying that"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "they were making inquiries. They were"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "stopped at the military blockade, but"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "their other two had gone to a military"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "base and were questioning. And they said"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "to the news reporters, \"You ask one more"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "question and you're going to jail.\""}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> Yeah. What if you ask one more question?"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:36", "text": ">> Their reporters are doing their job."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:38", "text": ">> And they went on camera and said,"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "\"Yeah.\" They said, \"One more question,"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "you're going to jail.\""}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> And that's um like you said, it's never"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "happened before. It's never happened"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "after."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:45", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": ">> it was serious. And they kept saying,"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "you know, um national security, national"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "security. And he's he's trying to ask"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "just one question. And they were"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "threatened to be"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": ">> whether balloons are not national"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "security. Yeah. And neither is the Gene."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "There was there was some effort to like"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "ride off what the girls had seen at some"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "uh gentleman in town, which I've seen"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "him multiple times. He's got a birth"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "defect. And they're like, \"Oh, it's Mene"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "or something like this.\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "\"Oh my god, that's a that's so absurd"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "that that everyone's seen him. Everyone"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "knows him,"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> you know, and they just try to, you"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "know, they were just throwing whatever"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "they could against the wall to see what"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "would stick.\" And of course, nothing."}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "And here we are almost 30 years later."}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "Yeah, the skeptics of this case, after"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "watching and reading through the autopsy"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "report and hearing the the witness"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "testimonies, the skeptics of this case"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "look more insane to me than any"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "testimony I've ever heard about any"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "alien being. Um they there's this is by"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "far one-sided here. Like I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "anybody's skeptical, I'm skeptical of"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "them and their motives now. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "Because if you're coming up to me after"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "watching this, reading through the"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "documents, and looking at all of the"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "evidence that you've brought forward"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "over the last 15 years, if you're going"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "to sit here and tell me that this didn't"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "happen,"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "I'm skeptical that you're probably part"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "of the cover up. That's where I'm at"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "with this case now. And I don't say that"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "lightly."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:10", "text": ">> You'd have to be like,"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": ">> \"No, no, you'd have to be absolutely in"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "on a coverup.\" chief of police, two"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "forensic pathologists, head"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "neurosurgeon, guy that ran three"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "different hospitals in the area, the"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "head neurosurgeon, still working there"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": ">> Yeah, he's risking everything."}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": ">> Everything to lose and nothing to gain"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "by coming forward. It's like plus the"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "chief of police,"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:32", "text": ">> plus the military actually drove it,"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "plus the three girls that came face to"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "face with it in broad daylight 10 feet"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": ">> So overwhelming. the guy that the the"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "the guy that took the X-rays. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "there was so much evidence, so much"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "compelling firsthand eye eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "testimony. Then you got the video of a"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "craft matching the description in and"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "around Oh, yeah. It's still a little to"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "the south, but at the same year,"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:56", "text": ">> it's just oh my gosh. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:56", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:40:58", "text": ">> incredible."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": ">> How many millions did everybody get paid"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "to be on camera for this uh documentary,"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "James? That's what we all really want to"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:04", "text": ">> I know, right?"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> Especially the neurosurgeon. Can you"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "imagine? I tell people"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> he's a neurosurgeon. He makes enough"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "money."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:10", "text": ">> I could give you I could give you an"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "hourong story behind every interview and"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "how it came about and how difficult it"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "was to obtain and"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": ">> people are terrified all these years"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "later still you know but there are power"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "in numbers and and I encourage people to"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "come forward and join this movement."}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": ">> Let's talk about Valkyia, Lilianne and"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "Katya."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:28", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> The the three girls. Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:31", "text": ">> Who witnessed this being."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:33", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": ">> You covered this in the first one. We"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "revisit in the second one probably some"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "of the most compelling eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "testimony to a nonhuman alien being we"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "can say"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "um you know you spent a lot of time with"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "them"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> you spent time with their mother"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> as well"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": ">> Marta"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:56", "text": ">> yeah Marta who you know firmly"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": ">> uh yeah there was a uh anyway come to me"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "a second Marta was the sister of the"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "deceased military officer"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:02", "text": ">> oh yes that's right"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:04", "text": ">> um her name would come to me I I love"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "her very much. I was just with her just"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "a few months ago."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": ">> But she, you know, uh, firmly refused to"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": ">> accept a bribe,"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": ">> accept a bribe from American gentlemen"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": ">> that said, \"Hey, look, we can we can"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "give you this money and you can just go"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "live a life. All we ask is that you just"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "go without asking questions.\" And she's"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "like, \"Not if it means calling my my"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "daughters here liars.\""}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": ">> Yeah. So she said that there were I"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "think there was three guys, two in suits"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "that remained silent. The third one that"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "spoke Portuguese with a with a heavy"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "accent, called them foreigners, uh"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "offered American dollars, a briefcase"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "filled that they could leave the"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "country, live out their life. All they"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "had to do, all she had to do was get her"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "daughter to say they were lying. It was"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "some kind of deranged animal or dog or"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "something like that that she refused to"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "accept. And Louisa is her name. and"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "she's to this day, you know, struggles"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "financially and and and uh she was like,"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "I there's no amount of money that's ever"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "going to you're going to give me that's"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "going to make me call my own daughters"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "liars."}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "Leave my house or I'm calling the"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "police."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:12", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> In fact, she was one of the first people"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "after decades of hearing these so-called"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "men in black and I would touch on it"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "maybe lightly a little here in the"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "middle of there. I went all in on her. I"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "was like, I I looked her in the eyes."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "This woman's telling the truth. And"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "there's so many others that had those"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "encounters. In fact, a lot of people in"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "town"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "up and left."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": ">> Oh, I mean, Pacini disappeared for the"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "better part of 20 years. Pacini was one"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "of the lead researchers."}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:37", "text": ">> And if his accountant, he's willing to"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "take a lie detector test with his right"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "hand on a Bible. He's seen the video of"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "the creature. He's So, Pacini was one of"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "the lead researchers. Cladio Kovo,"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "Pakuchini, Uber Dejada Rodriguez, um"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Marco Bati, AJ Gavard, but primarily"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "Pacini Uber, they were really deep in"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "it. And Uber Dejara Rodriguez who was a"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "very well-known lawyer in the state I"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "minus Jis the state of Minis in"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "Virginia. But in any case, Pacini"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "according to, you know, I just spoke to"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "him, he's working with us now. He said"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "that uh he was fired at. He was under a"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "lot of pressure. Uber Dejara kind of"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "just went quiet. Um Clai Kovo died. Um"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "AJ Javar died. Um Marco Patise still"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "talks about it. But um and of course"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "Marco Leel is working non-stop. But but"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "according to Pakuchini, he was he was"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "shot at. He was threatened and he"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "disappeared for the better. He was like"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "I just need to let everything cool off."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "He went live with his mother for like I"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "think 20 years."}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> now he's getting back in involved with"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "the case again."}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": ">> But even a lot of civilians were just"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "like up and moved who've lived there"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "their whole lives. Like you mentioned in"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "the first documentary, there was like"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "their neighbors were like, \"Yeah, he"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "just up and left and there was like"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "there was um"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:53", "text": ">> people just went quiet.\""}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": ">> Yeah, people just went quiet and I'm"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "sure people accepted some bribes and um"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": ">> we had something really weird happened"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "to us while we were there as well, which"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "I can go into detail if you want, but"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> Well, let's go. Well, so"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "one thing that I've learned in this"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "field is that when you like don't"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "sometimes when you really want to you"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "obviously want to get a a witness on"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "camera, don't talk about going on camera"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "at first. Just say, \"Hey, you know what?"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Can we just meet? Can I just can I get"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "you a coffee? Can we have dinner?\" Meet"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "with them. Look them in the eyes. Get to"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "know each other. There's nothing like"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "FaceTime, right? And get to know each"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "other a little bit. And then if that"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "individual decides or is contemplating"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "on going on camera, maybe under the"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "right conditions or maybe hide their"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "face, whatever, whatever, don't wait."}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "Don't wait one day. Don't wait one hour."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "Like, if they're willing to do it, go."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "And I'll tell you, with Military X, it"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "was like he he literally said to me"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "early on, \"There's all the money in the"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "world. I'm never going to come forward.\""}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "So, hey, I I understand. Can we just get"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "together?"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "We got together, FaceTime. He had a"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "incredible time. We talked about family"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "relationships. I talked about my father"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "with his uh struggle with multiple"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "sclerosis. Just kind of getting to know"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "each other. He talked about his wife and"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "becoming a dad and all these, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "things. Kind of get to know each other a"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "And um and then we kind of got into his"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "involvement in an official capacity for"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "the military, driving the creature, blah"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "blah blah, seeing it in the hospital,"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Seeing a seeing a feat,"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:35", "text": ">> right? Exactly. And uh and and yeah,"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "maybe maybe more. But um"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:41", "text": ">> uh he"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "uh he started to waver like maybe he"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "would meet with us and maybe under the"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "right circumstance he would go on"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "camera. And I was, let's just say it was"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "a Sunday. And I said to Marco, and he"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "was like, \"Well, maybe Tuesday, maybe"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "Wednesday.\" And I said, \"How about right"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "now?\" \"Well, I don't know.\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "Marco and I I didn't even shave, brush"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "my I don't even think I brush my teeth."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "I said, \"We're getting in the car and"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "we're going right now cuz I know I've"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "been here before.\""}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": ">> Yeah. This is This is gone."}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": ">> This is Yeah. So, we go. Anyway, we"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "ended up getting him on camera from the"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "back. disguised as a voice, you know,"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "and uh I think it was like the next day"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "or maybe the day after we were going to"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "meet with a gentleman that was also"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "involved in the um transportation or he"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "was he went out from military base. He"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "went to one of the hospitals, allegedly"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "had shot some video and we were going to"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "make an introduction to that individual."}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "I think it was the next day or the or"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "the day after and Marco was going to"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "pose as the cousin of Military X. I was"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "not going to be invited, but hey,"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "whatever. We'll take what we can get."}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:48", "text": ">> Uh, they got a phone call. Well, so"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "Military X got a phone call and it was"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "from the base and they said, \"Hey, how"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "you doing, so and so?\" And"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "um, yeah, family doing good. Oh, good,"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "good, good. You still living at this"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "address? Excellent. Excellent. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "good. Hey, um there's an American"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "filmmaker poking around and we had just"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "gotten him on camera. There's an"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "American filmmaker poking around. You by"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "chance meet with him, you know. Okay."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "Good, good, good. Yeah. Excellent. Well,"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "listen, you take care and glad the"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "family's doing well. Happy to hear"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "you're still living at the same address."}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "You take care now."}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": ">> And uh and then summoned the individual"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "that we were going to meet into the"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "base. So that individual that we were"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "going to meet with the next day. My"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "point is this. Had I had I waited till"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "Tuesday or Wednesday, I would have never"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "got we would have never gotten that"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "interview."}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:40", "text": ">> No, you guys were chasing the same lead."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": ">> We were chasing and it and had I had 24"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "more hours, we probably would have seen"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "the footage."}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> I dude, you have no idea. Like it's like"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "a bar of soap in the bathtub, you know?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "You just you grab it. And I say to"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "anybody out there who's feeling"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "frustrated because they want to see the"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "footage, there's nobody on the planet"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "Earth that wants that more than I do."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "And there's nothing nothing that I'm not"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "trying to get my hands on it. And I just"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "feel like at this point"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "if anybody's out there in possession of"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "of this footage, post it anonymously,"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "you know, put it out there for free. I"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "don't care who it comes from, where it"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "comes from. Like, well, of course, if I"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "want to be fake, but um"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:21", "text": ">> yeah, speaking of which, there is a"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "video circulating uh that claims to be"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Everything I've seen"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:28", "text": ">> the real being it's that's completely"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "fake. Uh, do not send James that Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "footage."}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": ">> Yeah, I will. Uh, so I what I would do"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "is if I get the video for free, I'm"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "going to give it away for free. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "going to charge anything for it. If I"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "have to purchase the video to recoup, to"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "pay whoever back, I I would figure that"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "out. But I would give it away for free."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "Okay. I'm not trying to make money on"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "this video."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:48", "text": ">> I I'd like the world to see it. I think"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "the world should see it."}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": ">> Yep. Um,"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "uh, I would have all the firsthand"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "eyewitnesses take a look at it first."}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "Hey, is this what you saw? Does this"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "look real? Do we know the providence of"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "this? Like that would do the best one"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "can, right?"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's out there"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:07", "text": ">> and Well, there are Yeah. So, there are"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "multiple videos out there. And the"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "reason why I know that is because I've"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "talked to people that have seen it. The"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "photographs. I actually talked to the"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "chief of police, Marco Le, and I went"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "and doorsteped him not too long ago."}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "And he admits on camera he's like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "yeah, there are multiple multiple"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "photos.\" Because you know the fire"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "department who's also part of the"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "military, you know, the police"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "department is also part of the military."}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": ">> They my understanding is they took"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "photos. They captured one took photos."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "They captured one."}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": ">> Uh the doctors in both hospitals,"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "Humanitas and Regional Hospital took"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "video. They had cameras. For instance,"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "there was specific surgery that they"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "would do, brain surgery, and they would"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "videotape these procedures. So, the"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "cameras had, sorry, the doctors had"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "cameras readily available at the"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "hospitals to record various procedures."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "They also had resources to have that."}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": ">> Um, then the military shot video"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "[clears throat] people in, you know, so"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "the military got video. I'm sure the"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "Americans got video. I'm uh the fire"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "department, the police department, and"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "the doctors all got photos and/or"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "videos. How do I know that? Because I've"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "talked to people that have seen it."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "Multiple different sources, civilians,"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "doctors, military that have seen the"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "videos. So, we know there's at least"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "five different sources of video and"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "photographic evidence of this. It's just"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "a matter of us getting our sticky little"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "fingers on it."}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:31", "text": ">> Can you imagine"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "this happening in today's day and age?"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:32", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I know."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": ">> That's disclosure."}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:35", "text": ">> Yeah, I know."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": ">> You thought about that? Of course,"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": ">> if this happens since the iPhone came"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "out,"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:42", "text": ">> this is disclosure."}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "Believe me, I know."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:48", "text": ">> But the further we get into technology,"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "you know, there's this one pocket"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "because now we're getting into AI stuff"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "and so, you know, if if another one does"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "happen, obviously the biggest argument"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "is going to be it's all AI generated,"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:51:59", "text": ">> Of course."}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": ">> But yeah. Yeah. But what can you do?"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": ">> Yeah, but this is on film."}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, This would be"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": ">> this would be on video digital or"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "photograph would be filmed."}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": ">> Um so the fire brigade ends up capturing"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "the first being."}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:16", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": ">> Allegedly, right? With this net and"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "there was even a witness to this and he"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "kind of saw it from afar and they had"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "something and they told him it's nothing"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "to worry about. It's just an animal."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "They've captured a small animal. And he"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "says that animal screamed like a child"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:31", "text": ">> like a little baby."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": ">> Yeah. It's interesting because"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "and even Marco Shrezy was involved in"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "the capture. Nobody knew what this"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "creature was like. Like nobody was like"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "calling it I mean alien in the sense"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "that it was foreign like it was a"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "creature"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:48", "text": ">> a creature. Like people were even"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "throwing rocks at it like you know they"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "were scared of it. Like what is this"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "thing? Some people thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "devil you know cuz it had these red eyes"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": ">> but people didn't think like I mean as"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "far as I could tell no one was like oh"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "yeah this was an extraterrestrial. No."}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "Nobody said that."}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Or ultraterrestrial. It's an"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "ultraterrestrial. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> nobody said that. They didn't know what"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "the hell that was. And I'd heard stories"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "of people throwing rocks at it"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": ">> on the outskirts of town and and going"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "into this forest. They were scared of it"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "and throwing rocks. And that's when the"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "the uh earlier that day is when the fire"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "department captured it with a net. And"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "that's according to some of the"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "witnesses that went on camera uh back in"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "96 said that it cried like a little baby"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "when was in captivity."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "But there are up to and I don't know for"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "sure because we only focused on two"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "because we only had really good"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "compelling"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "eyewitnesses on that. But there are"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "possibly up to five."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Up to five beings. Um but"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "for you know for in this documentary we"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "address I think three of them right. One"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "alive, one dead, then a third one kind"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "of missing at one point. Right. That's"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "what the uh the police the police chief"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:59", "text": ">> he saw a creature under the under a net"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "or under a blanket or a canvas of sorts."}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "Um and then he talked about the uh"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "military activity that was going on as"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "he said he saw more brass than he's ever"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "seen in his in his career uh there. And"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "um he said rumor had it that uh one"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "alive captured stayed alive, one dead"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "and then one uh got away."}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:19", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": ">> something like that. And that was Pedro"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "Luis Aguiar, the retired police chief."}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:23", "text": ">> Yes, sir. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:25", "text": ">> And we doorsteped him. We've been trying"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "to get to him for years."}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": ">> He did not want to talk prior to that."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:33", "text": ">> He would be like,"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "you know, talk a little bit, then we'll"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "do a meeting, you know, maybe I'll go on"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "camera. And then he kept like"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "disappearing and not returning our"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "calls. And we'd show up at his house,"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "knock on his door, went on for years."}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "And um we almost got to him on the first"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "round. And then he was like, I'm too"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "because he was like, okay, you can come"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "by my house, give us the address. And"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "then he just stopped returning our"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "calls. And this went on for several"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "years. And then finally, just recently,"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "a few months ago, we went, well, it's"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "funny, actually, we were going from Sao"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "Paulo up to Venia, which about a 6-h"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "hour drive, depending on how many times"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "you stop, whatever. And on the way"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "there, we took a slight deviation. We're"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "going to stop off at his house, and I"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "think it was maybe like 5:30 or"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "something. We were a little bit hungry."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:16", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": ">> And we had a mission. Our mission was to"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "go to his house and then get to Varia,"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "but for some reason I was like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "let's stop. There's this little pizza"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "joint and we stopped there. I was going"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "to get a quick slice of pizza and I"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "ended up meeting the owner was like,"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "\"Oh, where are you guys from?\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "and start talking. He was speaking"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "Portuguese, but he had translator. And"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "uh and he was like, \"I'm going to order"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "a big pizza. Come on. You guys are"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "having a having a glass of wine. You"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "know, you're going to stick around, you"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "And so reluctantly we we had dinner"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "there and it took about you know six at"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "least 60 possibly 90 minutes. So now"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "we're arriving later than we anticipated"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "and there were half the crew were like"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "you know oh gosh we had a mission we"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "shouldn't have sight you know as it"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "turned out it was perfect cuz when we"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "arrived he had just gotten home with his"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "family his wife and his kid."}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:03", "text": ">> You would have missed him."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": ">> We would have missed him. Yeah we would"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "have missed him. So, we got the only on"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "camera interview, you know, with with"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "him talking about the incident. And we"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "asked him like, \"Why are you\" And it was"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "a slow process, too, cuz we just got our"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "foot in the door in the house. We had a"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "mic and we went in there and then why"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "you coming forward? He's like, \"You're"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "investigating. You're investigating"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "something that and taking it seriously"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "that that I participated in.\""}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:25", "text": ">> Yeah. And he said it was real."}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Notoriia is uh reality or uh"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "it's not a story."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:34", "text": ">> Yeah. It's not history. It's not it's"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "not it's not a story, it's history."}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:37", "text": ">> It's history. Thank you. Yeah, exactly."}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "Not a story, it's history."}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:41", "text": ">> And um I don't know if you feel"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "comfortable mentioning what happened to"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "him now that he's since"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:46", "text": ">> I don't know the details, but we just"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "found out yesterday that he died"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:52", "text": ">> that he passed. Do you think that that"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "might have been part of the reason why"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "he felt it was important to come"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "forward? Maybe he had some type of"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "inkling, even subtle or or overt."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": ">> God, it's hard to say. You know, one"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "thing is there was a couple of very"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "indelible moments in the filming of of"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "Moment of both before and now. And one"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "of them was"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "his wife and I think his wife is his"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "wife. Can you see his wife in there at"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "all?"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:17", "text": ">> Um I I I don't remember."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:21", "text": ">> Okay. I I should remember, but I was"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "there and at one point because we got"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "his son and him answered the door. his"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "son was like 12 or 13"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "and uh we got foot in the door, started"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "talking to him and then I think I had a"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "mic on me and then they had the sound"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "guy in the car outside"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "and uh and then I said, \"Hey, at some"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "point, do you mind if we bring a camera"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "in here a little? Just, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "ease our way in.\" Oh, okay. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "fine. That's fine. Then the camera guy"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "came in and then we just started to"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "slowly get an interview with him on"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "camera. and it was all unfolding very"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "organically and happening and I was like"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "this former chief of police wasn't sure"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "exactly what he was going to say but at"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "one point more than one point several"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "points I'd looked I looked over at his"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "wife"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "and his son was sitting kind of close to"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "him but his wife was sitting at the"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "table and he was sitting on the couch"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "and I swear to you I'm not making this"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "up her eyeballs were like"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "like like push like her eyes were so"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "open her eyes and she's looking at her"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "husband and she's not blinking. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "looking at Dave going, \"Dave, are you"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "are you getting the wife?\" Like, \"Are"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "you getting the wife?\" \"Yeah, yeah, I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "getting the wife.\" I was like, cuz I she"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "was like"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "looking at him nonstop like,"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": ">> \"What do you think? Why Why do you think"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "she was she like"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:43", "text": ">> like, \"What are you doing?\" Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "exactly. Or cuz I was talking about the"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "photograph that I heard he had."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": ">> I was pressuring him very hard. Like I"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "wouldn't stop. Do you think he had is"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:56", "text": ">> Well, he did have it and he had actually"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "admitted to at one point having it and"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "then I said I kept hammering him and he"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "would change the topic and I would go"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "right back to that photograph. I was"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "like, \"This person said they saw it and"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "this person saw it and this is what it's"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "in it. There's one alive, one cat, you"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "know, blah blah blah. There's a military"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "and maybe a fireman in the background,"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "you know, and uh and the wife was just"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "looking at her husband like this. I"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "swear all my [ __ ] life"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:19", "text": ">> trying to like say you better not say"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": ">> Like just I don't know. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "what. But she was like this."}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:25", "text": ">> Well, I mean that"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:26", "text": ">> looking at him"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:27", "text": ">> for me. That's the look of someone who's"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "also seen the photo."}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": ">> And I was looking at her like this and"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "and I I was [clears throat] like, \"God,"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "this this is crazy. Is she telling him"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "to shut his mouth? Is she shocked that"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "we're there? Like what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "this?\" And um and then he said when I"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "kept hammering him on the photo, I have"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "this all on video. He said uh there are"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "some things within the police department"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "or the military or police department or"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "something that uh that will remain uh"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "like secret will remain we won't"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "disclose something like this"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:00", "text": ">> why"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:01", "text": ">> something like this"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": ">> why"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:04", "text": ">> I you know I mean it's the holy grail"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "right"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:07", "text": ">> it is the holy grail it's it's the holy"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "grail of humanity"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": ">> yeah it's the holy grail and so um but"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "yeah so that was and then I found out he"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "died I don't know the circumstances I"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "don't know how he died, but he was"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "pretty healthy. He had some definitely"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "had some what looked like um what's"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:22", "text": ">> Arthritis."}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Ex really bad arthritis. And his"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "fingers, his fa his his hands were"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "excuse me, really kind of deformed and"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "yeah. Um but his he was energetic and he"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "was alert and he was coherent and I"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "didn't think he was going to die like"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "within months of that interview, but but"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "he's gone. But, you know, by the time"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "your audience uh sees this, I would have"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "been back with a team again to Brazil."}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "We're meeting with a bunch more doctors."}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": ">> Go through the shoe box of photos that"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "they have in their closet."}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": ">> Whatever. Whatever we got to do. We're"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "meeting with the mayor. We're having"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "like screening. This is in my humble"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "opinion and I could always be wrong and"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "I've been wrong in the past, but I feel"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "like this is the beginning of the"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "beginning in the in the sense that it we"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "might reach critical mass and and more"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "people because I'm I'm trying to find"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "out uh doctors at Humanitus Hospital cuz"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "that's what we're missing right now. And"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "I'm in the inner circle with the with"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "the doctors, with the forensic"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "pathologists, with the neurosurgeons,"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "right? and we're meeting their wives."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "We're going into their homes. We're"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "having dinner with them. We're having"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "glasses of wine together. We're"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "listening to"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:34", "text": ">> it's going to come out"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": ">> music. We're getting to know each other."}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "We're spending time at their local"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "restaurants, meeting the communities,"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "you know what I mean? Like really"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "getting that trust and that that"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "camaraderie and friendship, laughing"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "together, singing together, playing"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "music together, and this is all"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "happening and starting to feel"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "comfortable. Like last time, one of the"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "first times I'd met with the forensic"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "pathologist, he was extremely guarded"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "and he runs I don't know like like there"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "were even times when we were"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "communicating back and forth and he's"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "like your communication is too fast. I"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "need a video that's you that it's really"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "you like paranoid. So I I took a video"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "immediately in the states and I said it"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "to him like this is me. I'm here in my"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "car. We're this is me. This is not"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "somebody else posing as me. So, um that"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "trust and that friendship is uh is is is"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "happening and again power in numbers,"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:30", "text": ">> Absolutely. Um all right, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "go now to Marco Chariz and Eric Lopes."}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "These two gentlemen were working for the"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "military and they were in essentially"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "patrolling the area. and that evening of"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "this uh barricade happening and that"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "evening where the first creature was"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "apprehended by what seems to be like the"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "fire department or something."}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> That was in the morning and then that"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "was in the morning earlier that day."}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:55", "text": ">> Yeah. And then later in the evening they"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "drive and come across this creature just"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "kind of crossing the road."}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:02:59", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "you know as brave as he is Marcoy gets"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "out and apprehends this being with his"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "bare hands."}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:12", "text": ">> Okay. So, we'll back up just a just a"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "moment. Sure. So, we have testimony from"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "like the local newsmen. We have"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "testimony from residents in the area"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "that came upon that blockade, that"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "military blockade at gunpoint,"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "threatened with national security, like"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "not messing around. You are not going"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "beyond this point. And if you look at"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "where the blockade is, which we did,"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "it's right in the area where the girls"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "came and encountered this this creature,"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "this crazy creature, which we go into"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "detail with. in broad daylight, 10 feet"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "away, up against that center block wall."}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "And then just two blocks away, a couple"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "of hours later, same blockade around"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "that area is where the capture occurred."}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "Now, there were two military officers."}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "One was on duty that night. His name was"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "Eric Lopes. I think it was P2, but any"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "case, military police. And and my"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "understanding was is that they were"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "giving he was given orders that to go"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "out and find something unusual, some"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "sort of creature, a wild animal,"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "something didn't really didn't say,"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "\"Hey, there's a live alien walking"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "around. Go grab it.\" You know, it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:12", "text": ">> And that was the reason for the blockade"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "essentially."}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": ">> That was the reason for the blockade."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "And so, uh, so Eric calls his really"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "good buddy, uh, Marco Shrez, who's also"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "a police military police, but he was off"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "duty that night, but he was like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "I got this crazy like assignment."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "thought, \"You want to join me? We can go"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "out together.\" And so he jumps in the"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "car and off the two of them went. And lo"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "and behold, right at dusk, he's the this"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "this creature ran across the road right"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "in front of him, just a couple blocks"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "away from where the girls are, just a"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "few hours later. And Marco Shre,"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "23-year-old,"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "super fit u military guy, without a"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "moment's hesitation, without, you know,"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "any concern for his own safety, just"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "leaps out the back of the car. the the"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "the passenger seat of the car and grabs"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "the creature. All right. My"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "understanding was is that he put it on"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "his lap in the back seat and in the"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "process of grabbing it."}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:08", "text": ">> We'll get to that. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": ">> Okay. I won't. Okay. So, and then they"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "take it to a clinic and one of the"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "doctors apparently came out to greet"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "them in the car and and took one look at"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "that creature and was like, \"Get that"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "thing out of here. I don't know what"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "that is, but it ain't coming in my"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "clinic.\""}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:25", "text": ">> And it smells."}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And so they take it to regional"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "hospital and that's where and and funny"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "enough I was just I was just at regional"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "hospital. Okay. Just a few weeks ago."}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": ">> They have a plaque out front to find"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "like this is the hospital where a live"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "alien was brought to"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:45", "text": ">> it's all right there. All official from"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "the town"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:47", "text": ">> on the hospital"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": ">> in plain sight. I can share the picture"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "with you. That's crazy. I will."}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": ">> So and it it describes the whole thing."}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "So I go in to the reception where the"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "people going to the front and I asked"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "them all the people working there. There"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "were three. Hey, you know the the 1990s?"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is where the"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "alien was brought. And they said, I"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "swear to you, I'm not making this up."}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "Like they said, oh yeah, we brought the"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "alien was brought in around the back."}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "They didn't bring it through the front"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "cuz it was scary. We brought it was"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "brought in the back. I was like, you got"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "to be kidding. They said, \"No, in fact,"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "there's a there's a a nurse practitioner"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "or something still working there that"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "was there that night.\" And we said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "can we talk to that individual?\" And the"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "other doctor that we were dealing with,"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "the neurosurgeon was working there that"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "night, but he was he was he was busy."}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "But so we got their contact information,"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "but we're only there for like 48 more"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "hours. But now we have another contact"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "of somebody who was there that night."}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "But no one's denying it. And they have a"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "big plaque right out in front. This is"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "what in plain sight."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:48", "text": ">> They're leaning into it. leaning into"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:53", "text": ">> It's uh that's it's so cool because, you"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "know, I'm reminded of like the Aztec"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "crash 1948 in Aztec, New Mexico, which"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "got covered up as a hoax almost"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "immediately. If you Google it, it's the"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "hoax at Aztec. And I I know better."}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:05", "text": ">> The military authorities were like,"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "\"This is how we do it.\""}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. The FBI covered it up."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "There was a smear campaign. Um just if"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "you if you go read anything about I know"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "there's a lot of skeptics out there"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "that'll be like, \"Chris, you're an"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "idiot. Read the article. It tells you"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "what happened. Look, I spent enough time"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "with people who've researched it for 35"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "years to know that that actually"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "happened. There's something that"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "happened there. But they were so quick"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "on covering it up. And that town, if you"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "go to Aztec now, you can't like we went"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "to all sorts of spots in that town just"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "to ask locals and they're like, \"Oh no,"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "that hoax.\" Totally different mentality."}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "Uh once the FBI got involved, but"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "anyways, I digress."}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "uh at this hospital."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "Um Marco Tresezy uh gets to this"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "hospital uh where they, you know, bring"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "the being and"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "Marco then goes home"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "and he's starting to develop this"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "sickness."}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:05", "text": ">> He's got he's got this smelly, greasy,"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "oily stuff on his skin."}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:09", "text": ">> That's right. And apparently he took"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "rubbing alcohol and he was trying to"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "wipe this stuff off. And uh within a"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "couple weeks he started to get sick."}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:22", "text": ">> And then he was admitted into uh one of"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "the hospitals al regional or humanitas."}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "I think it was maybe both. Excuse me. We"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "talked to two different doctors that"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "worked on him. One just recently but Dr."}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "Cesario. And Dr. Cesario worked on him"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "for a while and until he went into the"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "ICU and then died. But uh and it's funny"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "actually cuz Cesario,"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "Dr. Cesario was like, \"Uh, yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "you told us this happened, that we, you"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "know, captured this thing because this,"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "that, and the other thing, and he wanted"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "us to know to s cuz he was concerned for"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "his life.\" And then he goes, \"I mean,"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "according to his sister, he was"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "basically like, you know, I looked at"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "him like, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:05", "text": ">> Dr. Cesario Fittado is a cardiologist"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "for 45 years.\""}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh he's basically on camera saying"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "that uh Marco came to him"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "almost uh pleading him to help him."}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "Yeah. It seemed like and the only way"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "that Marco could help himself"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "was to say the truth because his life"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "depended on it. He wasn't going to hold"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "a national security secret and take it"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "to the He's like I want to get I want to"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "get better. So he in confidence"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:34", "text": ">> tells this doctor."}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": ">> But then so what happened? So Cesario"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "admits that on camera, but then he goes,"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "according to his sister, like we looked"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "at him like, \"Yeah, sure.\" You know,"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "anybody knows, but he said that he threw"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "the kitchen sink at him. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:49", "text": ">> That that bacterial infection didn't"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "respond."}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:52", "text": ">> Well, we'll get"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:56", "text": ">> I want to I want to get there as well."}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "So, um, here we have the autopsy report"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "because unfortunately Marco Terresy"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "ended up passing away and"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:05", "text": ">> 23 years old, perfectly healthy,"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:08", "text": ">> perfectly healthy, no, um, immune uh, no"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "no autoimmune disease um, no deficiency"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "immune wise. And, uh, his sister,"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "you know, was obviously demanding um,"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:18", "text": ">> and his wife."}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:20", "text": ">> Who is pregnant."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:21", "text": ">> That's right. Right. And they were"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "demanding and she's only she's only done"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "one interview, the wife, right?"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:26", "text": ">> Yeah. With uh Yeah. We're we're trying"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "to track her down again, but she did an"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "interview with Dr. Roger Lear in 2002."}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> That's right. And uh"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": ">> hell of a time fighting to get the"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "autopsy report. The reason for that"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": ">> could not get it. Could not get the And"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "even even the reason for death was uh"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "general infection cause unknown. It"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "wasn't"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:45", "text": ">> Yeah. They had apparently according to"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "them there were pages missing and there"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "was like all this blockage and then they"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "wanted to charge them money and it was"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "like you know the sister was going after"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "it the wife was going after it. They"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "ultimately did get"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": ">> uh an autopsy report with but it was"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "missing stuff"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:00", "text": ">> but now we have the autopsy report."}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:02", "text": ">> Yes. Where did you get this"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:06", "text": ">> with the comments directly from the guy"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "who owned the company IPD and that's Dr."}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "um Janini. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:11", "text": ">> Dr. Janini founded IPD and you should"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "look up the acronym for that."}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": ">> Jao Baptista Makuko Janini."}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:20", "text": ">> The pathologist who's done folks, get"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "over 50,000 autopsies."}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:27", "text": ">> Yeah. In his company,"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:28", "text": ">> they've done over 50,000"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:30", "text": ">> since the 60s"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:34", "text": ">> autopsies."}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "And in quotes, I've never seen a case"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "like this. Let that sink in for a"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "second. This is unique. This is one of a"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "kind. This has never happened and it"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "just so happens to be from an alleged"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "encounter. You understand?"}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:49", "text": ">> Um we ask him on camera."}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:54", "text": ">> And like what like give me an assessment"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "like what get give me your bottom line"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "here. And if you know and he says from"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "all I can gather that bacteria came from"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "under the nail of the ET scratched him"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "under the armpit right here and it"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "killed him."}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "essentially. So here is we're going to"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "go through the autopsy comments a little"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "bit here. So we had the uh the cir uh we"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "had the necropsy report the"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "considerations the conclusions and"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "everything and we had it translated and"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "it says based on um the medical findings"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "and background information. Uh this is a"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "consolidated and this is from that"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "doctor a consolidated English"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "translation that maintains factual"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "accuracy while making the content"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "accessible. So the medical finding"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "summary uh multi multif focal pneumonia"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "uh multiple pneumonia pneumonia"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "pneumonia"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:47", "text": ">> yeah yeah yeah"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:49", "text": ">> uh multi multiple areas of both lungs"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "showed inflammation with fluid fill uh"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "filling the air sacks making breathing"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "difficult."}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "Septic pulmonary throbo embolism which"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "are blood clots containing bacteria were"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "found in lung blood vessels indicating"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "the infection had entered the"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "bloodstream. early stage uh heart"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "inflammation or myocarditis. Initial"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "signs of heart muscle swelling were"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "present suggesting the infection was"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "beginning to infect affect cardiac"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "function. Acute liver congestion. The"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "liver showed blood vessel enlargement"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "and fluid buildup typical and severe"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "systemic infections like an autoimmune"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "some type of like massive systemic"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "highly virulent uh attack. Uh armpit"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "abscess infection. testing of fluid in"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "the armpit abscess revealed abundant"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "growth of staflloccus"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "uh scopfairy bacteria. So like um staff"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "infection essentially and uh here are"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "the key points about this infection what"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "make it so strange."}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "Um so the stafloccus scopery typically"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "causes skin and ear infections in dogs"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "and cats. Human infections are extremely"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "rare and normally only occur after"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "surgery or in people with medical"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "devices which Marco had either of these."}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "So doesn't happen essentially."}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:06", "text": ">> And let me just say that we just got"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "this full report with his endorsement"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "with his stamp and his signature on"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "camera just a few weeks ago."}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:14", "text": ">> Month ago, whatever. Sorry. Carry on. I"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "want to this"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:20", "text": ">> like he's putting his full endorsement"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "down on this right now on camera. not"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "anonymously his entire career in the"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "twilight years of his life because he"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "feels like this is this is"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:31", "text": ">> very important."}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:33", "text": ">> No small deal here."}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:34", "text": ">> Sorry. Carry on because you're doing a"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "great job by the way. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:39", "text": ">> No, no problem. But in this case, here"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "are the things that uh really stand out."}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "One, no prior surgery occurred. There"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "was none of that. There is no way that"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "this infection should have happened."}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "Two, no immune deficiency was detected."}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "So normally with something spreading so"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "fast across the immune system, you would"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "expect some type of imunompromised"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "disease to be happening. None of that."}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "He was 23 like you said, incredibly"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "healthy military guy."}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:04", "text": ">> The bacteria showed unusual antibiotic"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "resistance. And this is the one thing"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "that ended up uh baffling both um you"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "know both doc both uh"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": ">> Dr. Janini and uh Armando. That's right."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "Fortunado uh the forensic pathologist"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "and former municip municipal health"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "minister as well. So both of these"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "gentlemen were completely baffled by the"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "fact that they couldn't give him"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "antibodies. None of the antibiotics that"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "they gave him worked at all. They had"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "zero effect on whatever was attacking"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "his body. Nothing. Can you imagine being"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "a professional"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "pathologist who has all the latest"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "technology, all the answers, and how not"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "only frustrating, but how disheartening"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "it must be to throw your best medical"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "capabilities at this thing and and with"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "to no avail. Like that that sticks with"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "you. You lose a patient not because not"}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "for lack of trying. You gave it"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "everything. It just doesn't make sense."}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "it spread rapidly through his"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "bloodstream and it produced toxins that"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "affected multiple organs. Now in the um"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "sort of synopsis or or conclusions and"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "comments that these doctors give or this"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "doctor here particularly uh Dr. Jannini"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "the infection likely entered through a"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "minor skin break as you said small"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "abrasion uh due to possibly he says the"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "nail of the being so it has nails."}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:32", "text": ">> Yeah. and displayed unusually aggressive"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "behavior with high virolence and"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "antibiotic resistance. Here's a notable"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "consideration. Given the extreme rarity"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "in humans and the unusual aggressive"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "nature of this infection, some have"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "suggested the possibility of a"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "deliberate biological manipulation of"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "this uh bacteria, similar to how Komodo"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "dragons use bacterial laden saliva to"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "weaken prey. It It's the only thing that"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "this doctor can sort of pin."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:01", "text": ">> Yeah. is the Komodo dragon. When it"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "bites you, it weakens you due to the"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "bacteria that it has in there. Um, but"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "also as researchers, we might also be"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "familiar that this secretion that the"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "being had might have been like"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "excoratory,"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:13", "text": ">> might have been excrement."}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": ">> Um, and and that's kind of how they get"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "rid of their waste is through these"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "pores. And it happens when they're"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "sweating and when they're running,"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:25", "text": ">> And I need to make this abundantly"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "clear. This creature, this entity, this"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "being was not aggressive. It was not"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "combative. It wasn't trying to kill"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "people. I think that inadvertently and"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "by accident when Marco Shrezy, military"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "police officer, grabbed this thing, he"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "got a scratch from the nail under his"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "arm and that was so I don't want people"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "to feel like, yeah, oh, these ETs are"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "out to get us, they're going to kill us."}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "That's not the case at all. That's one"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "of the reasons why we're so cautious"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "anytime we do because expo exposure to a"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "type of bacteria and the way he"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "described it to me because I'm a"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "complete neopight. I mean I what do I"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "know? I'm just a filmmaker."}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": ">> But he said to me he goes it was an"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "advanced bacteria unlike anything he's"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "seen on Earth. In other words, it did"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "things that no bacteria on Earth would"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "do. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:11", "text": ">> Even though it was it was a strain of a"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "bacteria that they've seen, but not the"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "way this was evolved and the way it was"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "it was nothing could stop it."}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:21", "text": ">> Yeah. And and if that is the case, it's"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "also just a case of self-defense that"}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "the body produces naturally. It's not"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "some"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:25", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, the ET wasn't trying to"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "kill people."}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:27", "text": ">> No, exactly. It was"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:28", "text": ">> benign encounter. I I really want people"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "to hear that because"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:33", "text": ">> And if this was the being's excrement,"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "what do you think happens if a being"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "from another planet uh takes some of our"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "excrement and injects it into its"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "bloodstream, you might have a similar"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "response."}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": ">> Exactly. Um, the one thing that I found"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "really interesting here is the wording"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "at the at the near the end here of the"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "comments. He says, \"Thus we consider,\""}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "this is a translation again, but pretty"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "accurate. \"Thus we consider that soldier"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "Marco must have suffered some type of"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "superficial uh skin lesion that"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "antibiotic development of infection of"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "stafllocculus which showed high"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "virulence, antibiotic resistance and"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "prolonged course leading to severe"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "septacmia."}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "In the hypothes in the hypothesis"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "considered by many, this is the official"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "autopsy, involving an encounter with a"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "strange being, we may suppose that such"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "a being could use this bacterological"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "weapon. So, this is him just trying to"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "piece it together. Now, we're not saying"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "that this is an evil being, but what I"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "find interesting is that we have a"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "doctor here who's got a reputation and"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "even immediately after, without giving"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "it any afterthought,"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "wrote down that he might have had an"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "encounter with a strange being, and"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "that's the only explanation he has."}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "Like, that is incredible."}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:43", "text": ">> He said it on camera, too."}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:47", "text": ">> And he's he's like, look, he's not"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "saying with 100% certainty. He's saying"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "the highest probability from all the"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "information he can gather is that he got"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "scratched from the nail and the bacteria"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "came from under the nail of the ET under"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "his arm and that killed him."}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": ">> Um, so this is the first time that we"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "have access to"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "this autopsy report and I think that is"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:06", "text": ">> you did a great job reading it by the"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "way."}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": ">> Well, thank you. I mean, I was I'm"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "grateful that you sent it to me and I"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "was mind blown looking through it,"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "although, you know, I had to Google most"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "of what I was reading, but I learned a"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "lot and"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:20", "text": ">> it's uh I think it's one of those things"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "that when you put out this movie the"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "first time, like when you put out the"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "first iteration of this movie,"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:29", "text": ">> Um it stuck with a lot of people. That's"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "one of the few things that that movie"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "just stuck with you was someone dying"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "due to infection because they came in"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "contact with the being. And I'm glad to"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "know that it was because of some scratch"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "that it wasn't just"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> Yeah. some ray beam or something."}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:46", "text": ">> Yeah. Or or or even just touching the"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "being."}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": ">> Yes. that it was it was you know"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "bacteria related and possibly just"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "because of you know different immune"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "systems and from"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:57", "text": ">> everybody according to the firsthand"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "eyewitness testimony that I've talked to"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "that came in contact with this creature"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "that it was not hostile it was not"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "aggressive it was suffering it was"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "scared it wanted help uh and all the"}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "communication occurred through the eyes"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "okay"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "no antibodies could phase this thing. By"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "the way, again, I want to bring that"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "home."}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:21", "text": ">> Well, Dr. Cesario said he threw the"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "kitchen sink."}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And it it destroyed"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:26", "text": ">> everything. They"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:26", "text": ">> He'd never see anything like it"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:27", "text": ">> within a week."}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:32", "text": ">> Within a week,"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:33", "text": ">> he was Yeah. I think he died two to"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "three weeks after he handled the"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "creature. Something like that."}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": ">> Weeks."}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Within a week after uh Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "coming to the hospital, he was he was"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "gone. Um, okay. We're going to move"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "forward to a next the next part of the"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:51", "text": ">> And this is where we talk about the"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "flying disc"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:57", "text": ">> uh and the family that you met with uh"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "who quote unquote says when they saw"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "this disc spinning glowing in the air,"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "they said it was looking for something."}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:05", "text": ">> And I was highly dubious at the time and"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "they didn't want to go on camera. It was"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "funny because so we were renting a house"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "on the outskirts and it was great cuz it"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "had like you know we have a lot of"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "equipment with us and you know camera"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "crew and just for an extra layer of"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "security. It was a really nice house"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "owned by these doctors and it had"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "security gate you going in and out and"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "just for a little you know little"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "comfort. I mean we're poking around"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "where we shouldn't be poking around."}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "We're a little paranoid and so we're"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "staying there."}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "Oh, what are you guys what are you guys"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "filming? And of course, we told the"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "doctors, I we're filming this. Oh, well,"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "our fellow friends, you know, are also"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "doctors and they they actually saw you"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "they're witnesses. So, we're like, well,"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "hey, we'd love to talk with him. We, you"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "know, assuming they were going to go on"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "camera. That was the whole point. We're"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "making a dock."}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "We'll we'll make it happen. Then then we"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "kept like scheduling it and then it was"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "like, oh, maybe tomorrow and maybe"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "tomorrow. And then finally, I said, hey,"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "let them know we're coming. Let's get"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "the address. Let's let's go meet with"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "them. We showed up, cameras rolling, and"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "they're like, \"Whoa, oh, no, no, no,"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "no.\" We never we never wanted to go on"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "camera. We were just happy to share what"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "we we know. And it was really funny,"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "actually, in the in the film because So,"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "I I got out of the car, cameras rolling,"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "and they're saying, and I wasn't really"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "tuning in because I'm in film mode. I'm"}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "in production mode. And they were like,"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "\"Oh, you know, we're you know, we're not"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "we're not going on camera.\" and and I"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "said, \"Okay, look, tell them this.\" And"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "this is a ongoing joke in production"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "because I was like, \"Okay, we can either"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "film them from the front side, we could"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "blur their faces, or we can film from"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "the backside.\" Never was there an option"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "not to film them at all. And everyone"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "was laughing. It's like, \"No, no, no."}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "We're not going on camera. Okay, we're"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "going to put you on camera like this, or"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "we'll put you on camera like this.\" So"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "funny."}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:50", "text": ">> So funny."}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:52", "text": ">> It's something a magician would do."}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:52", "text": ">> You watch it in the film. It's like,"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "\"Yeah, no.\""}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:56", "text": ">> I heard that. You know what I'm talking"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "about. I was like, \"Yeah, we'll film you"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "like this or we'll film you like that.\""}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "we this is ongoing."}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:01", "text": ">> Yeah, we don't we don't have the"}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "pre-context of them saying we don't want"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "to be filmed."}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:06", "text": ">> There's no option for no filming. Okay."}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "So, anyway, so then they start talking"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "now kind of trying to process this like"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "potential"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "crash recovery like a like a I call it"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "ET, whatever. Yeah, whatever."}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": ">> Well, because this is also completely"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "left field to to what everybody else"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "witnessed. So, you're thinking like"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:26", "text": ">> I I was thinking it was part of I don't"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "know. I couldn't process at the time. I"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "was just like I mean hey don't get me"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "wrong I was like okay but then I started"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "piecing it together and then you know"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "the drone footage and proximity to the"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "capture proximity to where the girls"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "seen it was right there man it was"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "blocks away their home was blocks away"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "still living in the same home all three"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "witnesses the mother the wife the"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "daughter and they all watched it for 20"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "minutes 30 minutes it wasn't a quick"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "sighting and they were like slow and"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "methodical the way they described this"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "thing moving around I'm going do you"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "know it was looking for something I kept"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "asking them how do You know, it was"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "looking for something. Are you kidding"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "me? They were like, it was flying real"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "low, coming back, real low, coming back,"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "stopping back. This like a grid search."}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:08", "text": ">> How long did they witness it for?"}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> I think it was like 30 minutes. He says"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "on camera it was 20 or 30 minutes. And"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "he got angry when I said, \"Is there a"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "prosaic explanation to what you saw?\""}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "But a helicopter could have this. And"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "you could see how he was like, \"Look,"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "man. I'm not even I don't even want to"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "go on camera for this. Like, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "doing this like at great risk. I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "telling you right now, we watched it."}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "That was it. It happened. I was here. We"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "were witnesses. It's like,"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "okay. And I slowly came to the"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "realization like, [ __ ] this might be a"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "crash retrieval recovery operation ET."}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "Like, what what else could it be, right?"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "And then we're talking to other people"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "in town. We go down in the town square."}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "We're getting other witnesses saying the"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "same damn thing. They don't even know"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "each other. They've never gone forward."}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "No one's ever gotten that aspect of this"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "case on camera. And then"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "when we recut the movie and we had"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "featured like I've done with this latest"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "cut, you know, crash retrieval cases,"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "you know, Magenta, Roswell, very"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "briefly, we're not getting at Cexsburg,"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "Kingman, you know, the landing at at"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "Bentwaters."}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:14", "text": ">> And just to give an example, like this"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "is not, you know, completely"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "unprecedented, right? And the same thing"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "like in the old version of moment of"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "contact which is all done. It's all gone"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "now that the new the opening we talked"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "about you know tuba we talked about you"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "know UFO uh Karis UFOs over Brazil 1986"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "and then of course we we lead our way"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "into and then we we show some"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "photographic evidence of over the years."}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "So I'm like deleting that whole first"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "part of the movie to make space for this"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "entirely new cut of Moment of Contact"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "New Revelations of Alien Encounters."}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "um just to make the distinction. And uh"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "and I'm looking at that footage"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "uh one of some of the best disc footage"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "at night I've ever seen. I was like,"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:56", "text": ">> \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": ">> how did I not pick up on this before?\""}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "Like this is taken. So I I look up the"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "location just to the south like by the"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "crow flies could be minutes could be I"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "mean no no no time at all. Just to the"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "south of Vargina, Brazil. Same year just"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "a couple months later. same year we"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "happened to have a disc in the night sky"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "exactly like all these witnesses were"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "describing flying around in a"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "neighborhood like holy smokes."}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:25", "text": ">> Where'd you find that footage somewhere?"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:27", "text": ">> Marco Marco no no Marco Leo when we were"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "researching cuz I said to Marco I was"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "like let's give let's sprinkle in some"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "of the best like orb footage."}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:34", "text": ">> Oh, so he had this photograph. He found"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "it. Marco found it. Other fellow"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "researchers found it but no one had ever"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "been like hey this is by the way"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> it's great footage. Like it's great"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "footage and it's like wait a minute I I"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "Googled the location. I'm like wow"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "that's just to the south of Argene not"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "that far. Like wow and it's the same"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "year just a few months later. Holy"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "smokes. Could there be a connection? Why"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "wouldn't there be? I don't know but it's"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "pretty impressive."}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> And it looks like you know all the"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "descriptions like I said"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:04", "text": ">> over residential area at night. Wow."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:07", "text": ">> Glowing orange roing. It's clearly"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "flying saucer. 1996."}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "Really good footage."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:10", "text": ">> Looks like Bob Lazar's craft."}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:12", "text": ">> You know, we"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:13", "text": ">> same type of shape."}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:15", "text": ">> You know, one thing that we should"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "definitely consider doing is that I"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "should give you the best copy I have of"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "that and see if we can do some digital"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "enhancement."}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:21", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:22", "text": ">> Put it through AI. I don't know."}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "Whatever they can do, whatever"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "technology, software"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:26", "text": ">> I wouldn't put it through AI, but I"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "would I would definitely clean it up."}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:29", "text": ">> Yeah. There's there's methods to clean"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "up because AI can take some liberties"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "that that might be misleading."}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:34", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. Well, what I don't know the"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "process, but like whatever we one can do"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "to enhance it because I would love to do"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "a deep dive, I'd like to see it. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "it's pretty damn good as it is."}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": ">> Oh, it's fantastic. I actually love the"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "film grain and I like the digital, you"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:47", "text": ">> of course. And it's original."}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:48", "text": ">> Yeah, those type of sightings. I'm very"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "high conviction when I see something"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "like that. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": ">> there are, you know, other sightings"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "that are more clear, other ones that are"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "more like orbs and this and that. And"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "it's like to both of those, I get a"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "little bit more skeptical. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": ">> But as soon as I see this sort of"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "glowing shape and the shape of what it"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "is,"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:09", "text": ">> you hear the little boys the little boy"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "go, \"It's a disc, Mom.\""}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:15", "text": ">> I know. It's so It it is for me. That's"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "I'm pretty convinced. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:17", "text": ">> Really good. Right."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:18", "text": ">> Right there, too."}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:22", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": ">> So, but then they get visited by NASA"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "essentially."}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:25", "text": ">> Family. Yeah. Well, they It's funny"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "actually because the wife's like, \"NASA,"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "NASA, NASA.\" And husband goes, \"May"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "maybe NASA. We don't really know.\""}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Maybe NASA. They were American."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:33", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:35", "text": ">> And then"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "Uber Ubri"}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:39", "text": ">> Urbara Rodriguez was there and he"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "probably hated the fact that we that"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "they exposed him on that, but he was"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "there with American."}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:45", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. So that's where"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "I went. Hold on a second. What are we"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "saying? Are we saying that this UFO this"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "UFO researcher was"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:54", "text": ">> the guy that did a 180 years later too?"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "Now he won't even talk about it. He"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "won't be he just Yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "was"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:01", "text": ">> he was the original researcher. He was"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "the lawyer that came out right at the"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "beginning."}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": ">> He was the one annihilating everybody"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "else's arguments. He was super smart,"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "super educated, super aware of the case."}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> Pro case"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:12", "text": ">> and he's meeting with Americans,"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "interviewing witnesses"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:17", "text": ">> and those Americans are telling him what"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:18", "text": ">> telling what do they tell the family?"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:20", "text": ">> This we were never here."}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:22", "text": ">> We were never here. This never happened."}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:25", "text": ">> Never happened. Keep your Zip."}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:26", "text": ">> And this UFO researcher is right there"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "in the trenches."}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:29", "text": ">> According to all three family members,"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:31", "text": ">> as I was taking notes, I was like, \"Hold"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "on. This is this guy?\" Cuz he kept"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "saying, \"Uber Jara Ubar.\" And I was"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "like, \"That's the name of that guy.\""}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:39", "text": ">> Dude, I'm glad you picked up on that."}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "Most people don't. Most people that goes"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "right over their head. Very significant."}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:45", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> Because Uber cover up. Part of the cover"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "up meeting with Americans evidently from"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "NASA. I don't know. But they were like,"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "\"This never happened. We were never"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "here.\" Zip."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:58", "text": ">> For all of you thinking out there that"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "you can't be compromised as a UFO"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "researcher, you're going from this guy"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "who's a lawyer, very smart man, and"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "obviously very, very passionate about"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "the Vargina case being real to now"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "working apparently allegedly with the"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "Americans and then just ghosting"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "everybody. Like I mean, come on. And"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "then turning on it. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": ">> the girls were very very upset with him,"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "some of the things he said. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:22", "text": ">> cuz the girls have had everything to"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "lose and nothing. Everybody has really."}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And they could have accepted a bag"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "of money."}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> Could have accepted a bag of money. And"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "it's like this is not exactly,"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "especially then it wasn't a"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "career-enhancing move. Like they were"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "laughed at. I mean, they talk about it"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "in the movie like we've been laughed at"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "our whole lives."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:37", "text": ">> You know, obviously some people take it"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "seriously. Some people a lot of people"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "believe them, but you're getting"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "ridiculed. Oh, you want the job? Like,"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "oh, you're aren't you the one that sees"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "ET? Like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:46", "text": ">> like do you think that's helping them"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:50", "text": ">> Do you know what I mean? like, \"Oh yeah,"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "you're the guy, you know, it's just like"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "the police officer Lonnie Zamora in"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "1964.\" He quit his job as a police"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "officer because people were like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "you're the guy that sees ET.\" Right."}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> Herbert Shurmer, same thing. 1962, same"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "thing. He quit his job."}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:04", "text": ">> Quit his job, worked at a dump for the"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "rest of his life, for the rest of his"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "career."}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Happens a lot."}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": ">> So interesting."}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:16", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "and then he says that Yeah. Multi. This"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "guy also says that multiple people he"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "knows just kind of picked up and left. A"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "lot of people just left town. They just"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "skipped town. People he knew were just"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "like gone."}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:28", "text": ">> Certainly disengaged and stopped talking"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "about it. Pakuchini packed up and left"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "for I think 20 years. That's"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": ">> even even just witnesses, you know,"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "probably."}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:40", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, look, uh uh Carlosa gone,"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "unreachable 26"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "years gone. Can you imagine?"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "Pakuchini, the lead investigator. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "Gone."}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:51", "text": ">> Uber Dejado Rodriguez 180. Won't talk to"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "anybody. Like"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:56", "text": ">> really."}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:58", "text": ">> That's so wild that that family named"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "him. That is that is such a when I was"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "like that's"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:01", "text": ">> you're one of the only people that that"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "has pointed that out."}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:03", "text": ">> I'm glad you kept it in."}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:04", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:07", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:09", "text": ">> all right, we move on to another"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "anonymous uh witness who wanted to"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "remain anonymous was the radiologist."}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "This is one of the craziest"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "they"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:20", "text": ">> can tell you how that came about."}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:24", "text": ">> Yes, please."}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:25", "text": ">> So, uh, Marco Leal, who's an exceptional"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "researcher, Boots on the Ground, is my"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "partner, co-producer. There's also"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "another co-producer, um, Alen Crass."}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "More recently, she's joined the team."}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "But Marco had met some students of his"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "at some school in Varenia and somehow"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "the topic of of Vargenia UFO, you know,"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "case came up and they were like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "yeah, our teacher who's a radiologist at"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "so and so told us this crazy story, you"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "know, and so Marco was like, whoa, where"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:33:59", "text": "is he now?\" So he found him, but he was"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "still working at the time. saw years and"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "years and years of effort to get him to"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:09", "text": "like come forward. No, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "Years for years. No, no, no. And then"}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "finally in 2021, I think it was, he"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "managed to get him to come meet with us"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "and he agreed reluctantly to go on"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "camera. But as long as we disguise"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "disguised his voice and filmed him from"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "the back and you know,"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:25", "text": ">> you gave us two options."}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Right. I"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "know. We gave us two options. we'll film"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "you like this or but uh and um and it's"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "incredible like I mean he talks about"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "the fact that"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:37", "text": ">> the military came in"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:40", "text": ">> they had this"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "something inside a Ziploc you know bag"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:41", "text": ">> body bag"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:43", "text": ">> body bag"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:45", "text": ">> a child's body bag"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:46", "text": ">> stank and it was all done in secrecy and"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "there was no talking cuz I always ask"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "witnesses like can you put me in the"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "room like what was the atmosphere like"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "and people were looking at each other"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "but there was no conversation and like"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "we need you to perform this the only"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "time in the history of his career where"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "he took the X-rays and they wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "even let him proc to see if they came"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "out right. They took it all. This never"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "happened. We were never here. You're"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "hold your silence. Thank you very much."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "You've done your job. You've done your"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:12", "text": "job."}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:14", "text": ">> And uh what also I think was interesting"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "is that he"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "he told you that there was a guy with a"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "camera there, too."}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:19", "text": ">> No, that was uh"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:20", "text": ">> Oh, that was in the other room."}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:22", "text": ">> Yep. That was in that was the driver."}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "That was Military X. That was in"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "Humanites Hospital."}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:27", "text": ">> I'm I'm mistaken the two."}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": ">> Yeah. But um but there were cameras"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "according to other"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:32", "text": ">> uh doctors both in Humanitas and in"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "regional"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:34", "text": ">> in the regional hospital."}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:35", "text": ">> Yes. And we have names of those people"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "too now. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:37", "text": ">> For the first time we have"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Because you don't you don't miss a"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "camera back then because they're not"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "they don't fit in your pocket."}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> Exactly. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> Massive like stupid looking things."}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:45", "text": ">> Like like cell phones, you know, big"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "brace."}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. It's like these giant"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "things you got to wear in a strap. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "It's a whole briefcase."}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:57", "text": ">> Um Okay. So"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "yeah, that it's the military man uh"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "military man X who ends up seeing the"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "alien in a box when he goes uh to the"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "hospital. And and that was just such a"}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "an amazing interview at the end of you"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "know the the first uh part of this. Um"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "after this this is when we hear about in"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "the documentary"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "the USAF United States Air Force. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:23", "text": ">> Usfuse. I kept thinking USAF. What's"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "this guy talking about? USAF."}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:25", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:26", "text": ">> USAF"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:27", "text": ">> landing."}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:28", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": ">> that is a big big deal."}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:33", "text": ">> So all the airplanes coming in to a"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "particular area according if they come"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "from out of outside Brazil uh have to"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "have Brazilian government authorization"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "to land"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:44", "text": ">> and this plane was coming and didn't"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "have that authorization. And according"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "to I guess you call them like flight is"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "it flight control officers radar what do"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "you call what's the name of the people"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "that that monitor all incoming flights?"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": ">> Country radar off"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:57", "text": ">> radar operators or tower um"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:36:58", "text": ">> flight control."}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:00", "text": ">> Sure. Anyway,"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:02", "text": ">> apparently according to him the plane"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "was coming in and didn't"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> radio control towers."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:06", "text": ">> Radio control towers. Plane was coming"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "in"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:12", "text": ">> didn't have authorization. Some"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "highlevel military official, Brazilian"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "military official stepped in and said,"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "\"Let the plane land.\" It diverted."}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "Apparently, it was going to go into Sa"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "Paulo, but it didn't. It went straight"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "to Campinus. And we have testimony from"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "military X that he drove the trucks from"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "Humanitas Hospital to as a military base"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "and then from Ezenas."}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "And so logically something was loaded up"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "on there that would have been where the"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "Americans stepped in. And now we have"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "new"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:38", "text": ">> metal boxes."}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:41", "text": ">> Metal boxes, you know, whatever. I don't"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "even And I don't know how long the the"}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "the creature that was in captivity that"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "was alive. I we don't know how long it"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "stayed alive. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:50", "text": ">> Was it alive when the Americans took it?"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "My understanding is it was how long did"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "it stay alive? I I have we don't know"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "yet. Um but yeah,"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:37:59", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:01", "text": ">> more more pieces of the puzzle are"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "filling in because now we have testimony"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "from you know the military actually"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "drove the creature. Well, we've had"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "that. But now we have testimony from the"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "um chief of police."}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:13", "text": ">> Not anonymous. Put his face and his name"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "on on camera."}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:15", "text": ">> It's a big deal."}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:18", "text": ">> He was like, \"Yeah, I saw a creature"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "under a tarp. something under a tarp,"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "more brass than I've ever seen in the"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "history of my career as a military base."}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "Helicopters landing, going, whole"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "commotion. And he's like, \"Yeah, the"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "Americans came to Campenis and that's"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "when they took the they took the the"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "stuff,"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:36", "text": ">> which as we find out a bit later, pissed"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "off a lot of the local military.\""}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:40", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:43", "text": ">> you then, which I thought was just the"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "coolest thing ever, you produced a"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "Freedom of Information Act request."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:52", "text": ">> To find a flight log of the CIA or not"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "of the CIA, of the United States Air"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "Force"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:57", "text": ">> working with two different people"}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "basically. There was a there was a"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "gentleman, hey, how can I help? I was"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "like, hey, we want to file a foyer"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "request. Okay, let me know what"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "information you want. I had this other"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "gentleman anonymously reaching out to me"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "and he was so knowledgeable. He was"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "like, you know, you got to check here,"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "you got to check that. There's going to"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "be flight logs and duh. And we were"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "going back and forth for a while and I"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "had a lot of incoming information. I"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "mean, just processing after the Joe"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "Rogan appearance for this case was a"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "full-time job just trying to, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "receive all the messages, process all"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "the messages, try to get back to"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "everybody. But there was one person in"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "particular who was really knowledgeable."}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "I mean, I was like, who are you? And"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "he's like, actually, I'm an I'm a"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "colonel, United States Air Force. I was"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "a former fighter pilot, and I had a very"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "dramatic UFO encounter in 1980. I've"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "been following your work. I'm following"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "this case and I want to help you find"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "that flight. So I was like, \"Oh, cool.\""}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "You know, so now I'm working with the"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "colonel of the United States Air Force,"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "retired, but still like he's amazing."}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "Frederick Frederick Clausen, he's okay"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "for me to talk about this. So anyway, so"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "he's he's giving me guidance. There's"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "another gentleman um which I consider"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "one of our team guys, and he's like,"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "\"Hey, you know, let's do this. What do"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "you want me to say?\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "\"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "all flights coming into the United"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "States.\" And I don't know what the span"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "of time was. Maybe it was 10 days, maybe"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "it was 2 weeks, I can't remember, but I"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "wanted to make sure it was before the"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "crash and like, you know, up to 10 days"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "or 8 days or a week after January 20th."}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "So, we just covered that whole window,"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "but I wasn't too much. Nice block."}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:34", "text": ">> All planes coming in. And so we file"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "that FOYA in 2021, 2022, probably 2022,"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "2023,"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "2024,"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "2025,"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "we get a response from the CIA."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:48", "text": ">> From the CIA and what what pray does the"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "CIA tell you to no surprise? Well, like"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "basically resorting back to some thing"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "that was signed in 1949, 19 national"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "security, you know, I think they said"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "national security."}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:40:59", "text": ">> We can neither confirm nor deny."}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:01", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> You know, the information according to"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "the 1949 act, you know, and you could"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "show the document it's national security"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "or classified. We're not going to tell"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "you."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Basically stonewalled flight"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:13", "text": ">> for an entire block"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> from the CIA, too. Why would we get"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "reach out to the CIA? That's kind of"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "telling."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": ">> Yeah, of course it's telling."}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:23", "text": ">> I'm not a a foyer guy, right? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "I'm I'm just not I'm not seasoned, but"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "everyone that I've shown that to,"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "including like Chris Melon, are highly"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "dubious like, \"Well, that's really odd.\""}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "You know?"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:31", "text": ">> Of course it's odd."}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Right. Like,"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:34", "text": ">> of course it's odd. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:36", "text": ">> Of course it's odd."}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:37", "text": ">> Of course. They they they landed without"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "authorization in Brazil. They're not"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "going to admit to that."}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Even if there was nothing to pick"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "up, they're not going to admit to a"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "random, you know, plane landing"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "unauthorized. Like that's just like"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "that's just proof that they weren't"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "supposed to be there for whatever"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "reason. They're not answering that."}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:56", "text": ">> Got to have a flight log."}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:58", "text": ">> Yeah. It just so happens that there was"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "also talk of an alien running around and"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "a ship crashing. Must be must must be"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "coincidental that they also don't want"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "to answer questions about their flight"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "log during that week. You know what you"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "should do?"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "You should foyer request um a month"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "after and a month before."}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> Interesting. Yeah. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> Just to get them to be like, \"Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "No, we were not there.\""}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:23", "text": ">> You know what I should do? I should get"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "some of the members of Congress that I'm"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "working with to do that with me."}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:27", "text": ">> Foyer request a bunch of random dates"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "that year."}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:28", "text": ">> You know what?"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:30", "text": ">> Before and after"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:30", "text": ">> if it came from a sitting member of"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "Congress."}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:33", "text": ">> That would be a more effective way of"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "doing it."}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:35", "text": ">> But even even like Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:36", "text": ">> Don't you think? Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:38", "text": ">> They're not coming from a civilian. This"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "is coming from a sitting member of"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "Congress,"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:42", "text": ">> of course. But I mean, if if these are"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "USAPS, they're not going to, you know,"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "or even special access programs. They're"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "not going to allow, you know, anybody"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "access. But"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:50", "text": ">> I did find out that where the bodies"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "most likely went was on the East Coast."}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "And that's as much information as I can"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "get."}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:56", "text": ">> On the East Coast."}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": ">> Yeah, the bodies went to the East Coast."}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:01", "text": ">> East Coast, United States."}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": ">> Do you think um there was a I was Where"}, {"start": "01:43:01", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "was I looking at? I found out somebody"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "from the DIA told me that"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:07", "text": ">> DIA."}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:08", "text": ">> That's what the individual said."}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:10", "text": ">> Oo, interesting. That actually"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:12", "text": ">> that pretty high conviction"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:13", "text": ">> that it would go to the east coast and"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "and then the individual was like that"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "that's that's as far as I'm going. It's"}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:19", "text": ">> probably is it Maryland"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:21", "text": ">> DNI Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "which doesn't exist somewhere on an"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "island, a floating island is my guess."}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:26", "text": ">> I would like to know and I'd also like"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "to know how long that entity stayed"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "alive."}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:29", "text": ">> Yeah. and what kind of communication"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "there was because there was"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "communication and it was all done"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "through the eyes."}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:36", "text": ">> I'd like to know"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:37", "text": ">> which I I want to know so bad. Chris,"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "you have no idea."}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:40", "text": ">> I understand. It brings us to Dr. Italo"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "Venturelli."}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:41", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:42", "text": ">> A hero."}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:44", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:44", "text": ">> In my in my eyes, this this man deserves"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "a medal."}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:47", "text": ">> This guy's not retired and he's not"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "doing it anonymously."}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:52", "text": ">> He's an absolute saint. He's the head"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "surgeon at the hospital regional in"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:56", "text": "Virginia. Yep."}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:58", "text": ">> He is still there. He was the head of"}, {"start": "01:43:56", "end": "01:43:59", "text": "three hospitals, folks. Right? This is"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "no."}, {"start": "01:43:59", "end": "01:44:02", "text": ">> So, let me tell you how we got Let me"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "tell you how we got to him."}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:06", "text": ">> This is a sort of truncated version."}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:09", "text": ">> Marco,"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "my partner, Marco Leal,"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:14", "text": ">> he um he has I I can't give away too"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "much, but I need to give away just"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "enough."}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:17", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:18", "text": ">> Still protecting some of our sources."}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:19", "text": ">> Keep your sources."}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:21", "text": ">> Yes. So, there's a couple of different"}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "hospitals, and I'm not going to name"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "which one, but we have someone on the"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "inside"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "who's been meeting with us off the"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "record discreet, very discreetly, and"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "saying this is you need to go talk to"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "this individual. You need to talk. Why"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "is that? Because they were shown some"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "stuff. And so, we went to Marco has been"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "like, \"Okay, this is the individual."}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "This is the doctor we need to talk to."}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "We know that this doctor was shown"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "video. We know this other doctor was"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "shown video. So Marco's reaching out to"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "these various doctors and about a year"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "ago we had heard through another doctor"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "through our contact on the inside"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "working in this hospital"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "um that Dr. Italo was shown the video."}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "Okay. So Marco arranges a time where it"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "was like you know a zoom call a little"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "over a year ago with Dr. DLO who's a"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "neurosurgeon at regional like hey did"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "you really see this video and he admits"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "and I don't even know if this was"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "recorded it probably was recorded I"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "knowing Marco was recorded but I was on"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "the other end of it and he was a"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "translator and he confesses that he yeah"}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "there is a video and he did see it so"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "that was about a year ago so this is"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "kind of all on ongoing so then uh fast"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "forward about a year later you know that"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "individual is still on our target is"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "still like on our in our sights, right?"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "But I really wanted to get the two"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:52", "text": "forensic pathologists, particularly Dr."}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "Janini, because he was getting on in"}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "years to talk about the bacteria that we"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "could possibly incorporate in a new cut"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "of moment of contact. And um so we're"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "doing these interviews with them at IPD."}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "You can look up the uh acronym for that,"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "but it's basically the two forensic"}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "pathologists. It's the company that did"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "the analysis, the tissue sample analysis"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "on the deceased military officer as well"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "as uh the doctor that did the autopsy on"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "the deceased military officer, Margari."}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "So, we're doing this interview and it's"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "all amazing and they're saying"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "[clears throat] some incredible stuff"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "and we're super excited"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "and we're like, \"Hey, there's this other"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "doctor. We're really trying to breach"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "him and that was Dr. Eelo and uh Dr."}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "Armando who did the autopsy on the"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "deceased military officer. He goes,"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "\"Hey, yeah, yeah, hold on a second.\""}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "Pulls his phone out, [gasps] \"Hey, Dr."}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "Italo.\" And they're speaking in"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "Portuguese and then he goes, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "okay. Going to hang his phone up"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "tomorrow morning.\" Wow."}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:56", "text": ">> Go around to the back gate at Regional"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "Hospital. He's going to meet you there"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "at 10 o'clock. Say 10 o'clock. We're"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "like, \"Okay.\" So"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "the next morning, we all get in the car,"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "cameras rolling, sound guy, let's roll."}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "We go to the back gate, the back back"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "entry point, not the front, the back."}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "And was like, that's kind of odd. We"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "didn't know exactly what was happening."}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "And and that's when he walks out in his"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "full scrubs."}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:27", "text": ">> Yeah. He's he's working in the He's He's"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:29", "text": "working and he sneaks us in the back and"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "he's sneaking us down these long cor"}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "corridors and and I'm talking to the"}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "camera."}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:33", "text": ">> What are you thinking like where are we"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "going? What is he showing us?"}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:37", "text": ">> I'm totally thinking that"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:39", "text": ">> cuz you think this guy's only seen video"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:42", "text": ">> exactly. So he's down there and we don't"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "really know what's happening now."}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "Unbeknownst to our whole team, since the"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "year before meeting where we confronted"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "him on did he see the video, he had a"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "heart attack."}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "He went into the ICU. He was staring at"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "the ceiling. His partner that was also a"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "neurosurgeon at Regional Hospital,"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "Marcos Phinesis, he had a heart attack"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "in 2018 and died. And so he was"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "apparently staring at the ceiling in the"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "ICU thinking, \"Shit, I'm going to take"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "this to the grave just like my partner.\""}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "Like then on top of that, so he was"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "like, \"If I recover, I'm I think I'm"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "going to go public.\" Then on top of"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "that, he got cancer. I think he got"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "prostate cancer. He's been recovering"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:27", "text": "from that as well. So I think he was"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "just like still working at the hospital."}, {"start": "01:48:27", "end": "01:48:29", "text": ">> I had a wakeup call."}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:31", "text": ">> Had a wake up call and he was like, you"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "know, for the sake of my grandchildren,"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "you know, future generations, I'm not"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "going to take this to the grave. So he"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "sneaks us in and I have no idea what's"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "going on. Everything's happening rather"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "quickly, right? So I'm told that I got"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "to put on these scrubs. I got to put on"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "a mask. I got to put on a hat because"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "you can't enter ICU without that. You"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "have to have all that gear on."}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:50", "text": ">> So I'm putting everything on."}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:52", "text": ">> Sterile environment."}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:54", "text": ">> What's going on? Like what's happening?"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "What's what's you know I'm just okay."}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "I'm just doing what I'm told. Sound guy,"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "camera guy, Marco's there. Alen is"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "there. translator, you know, and and"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:08", "text": "takes us into the ICU. Then he starts"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "talking about, you know, this is where"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "I, you know, this is where I saw the"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:14", "text": "video is in this bed. And then he was"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "just like, yeah, the ET was right here"}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "in this bed, right here in this room."}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "I'm like, wait a minute. The video, the"}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "ET, what? What? And then it all comes"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "out like, yeah, I was here that night."}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "Marcos Venius is the one that preser"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "performed the procedure. I was in this"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "room with ET and we're I'm just I'm like"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "you got to be kidding me. Like this is"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "all unraveling all on camera. It's"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "happening where he was just saying I"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "don't care what the consequences are. I"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "don't care anymore. I'm old enough. I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "seasoned enough. I'm important enough."}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "[ __ ] it. You know what I mean? I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "coming forward and he's doing it. And"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "then we're filming. I'm just shocked."}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "The whole thing is just like I I can't"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:49:59", "text": "believe this is happening. like this"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "development is one of the biggest if"}, {"start": "01:49:59", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "true it's the biggest most significant"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "development"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "in the history of the phenomenon because"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "I challenge anyone out there to show me"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "testimony from anyone particularly a"}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": ">> an active neurosurgeon not retired"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:23", "text": ">> not retired who's putting his entire"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "career on the line to say I had"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "face-to-face contact telepathic"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:31", "text": "communication for 3 to four minutes with"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:33", "text": "an alien in captivity."}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "I Chris, correct me if I'm wrong. I"}, {"start": "01:50:33", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "can't think of another case. This is a"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "first."}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:40", "text": ">> I happen to have your first hat on when"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "it happened. But"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:44", "text": ">> anyway, so we're filming that. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "trying to process as best as I can. And"}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "I speak French, a little bit of Spanish,"}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "studied Spanish for a few years. So, and"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "when I'm in the field, no matter where"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "I'm in China or in Africa, wherever the"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "hell I am, I really want to know what's"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "being said. Like I you have no idea."}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "Like I go I go to another level of"}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "communication. I'm on a spiritual level."}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "Like I want to hear. So I'm picking up"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "words. I'm doing everything I can. I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "reading body language. I'm like when I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "in the field, I need to be able to"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "communicate with people. I need to see."}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "I want to know exactly what's being"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "said. You know what I mean? So I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "picking up on pieces like what's"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "happening. I'm feeling the energy in the"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "room. Bam. Like all the the hospital"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "staff catch us filming in there and"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "they're pissed off and they grab the"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "neurosurgeon and they're like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "and like [ __ ] I probably just got this"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "guy fired. You know what's going to"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "happen? Ultimately, we get kicked out."}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "He's like, I might Sorry. Go ahead."}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:36", "text": ">> Before Yes. you go to this next"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "location, which ends up being, I think,"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "one of the most"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "important interviews I've ever seen."}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> Um he's sitting there pointing to the"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "bed."}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:50", "text": ">> Yeah. and saying the being was under"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "blank like tucked like a little patient."}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "He said he looked like a seven. He had"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "the body of a seven-year-old."}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:56", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:57", "text": ">> And the skin was white."}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:51:57", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:51:58", "text": ">> Pale."}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:00", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:01", "text": ">> And he said the eyes were reddish. He"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "didn't say red."}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:05", "text": ">> You know, a lot of people thinking these"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "glowing red eyes. That wasn't the case."}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:11", "text": ">> They were red. maybe even from you know"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "and contrary to other reports we had"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "heard about this creature being brown"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:18", "text": ">> maybe once you know and and we can"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "assume"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "based on other testimony from other"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "cases that this is excrement that they"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "are leaking out of their skin it could"}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "be brown as well and that might you know"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "once wiped off leave them very pale also"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "what the"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:36", "text": ">> or maybe the heat of the hot sun"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:39", "text": ">> also and the molecular biologist ologist"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "that allegedly uh if you go on Reddit,"}, {"start": "01:52:39", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "there's a report of this molecular"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "biologist that allegedly uh worked on"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "some of these beings that were frozen."}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "They were pale as well, but he'd noticed"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "there were thousands of pores on the"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "skin. Uh in that their whole system"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "would excrete through the skin. So very"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "similar. But"}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:58", "text": ">> were there other animals that excrete"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:52:58", "text": "that that excrete? Is it"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:52:59", "text": ">> I think chickens."}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:01", "text": ">> Oh, chickens."}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:04", "text": ">> Yeah, I think chickens also."}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:07", "text": ">> Okay. Um but yeah, so you have this"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "being now sitting here and he says it"}, {"start": "01:53:07", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "was like serene. It was calm."}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:12", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> And in his words"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "he says"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "he had control of the room."}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Despite the fact that it was in"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "captivity, it had control of the room."}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "Yeah. And when he looked at it in the"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "eyes,"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "he was like it just read all my"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "thoughts. there's communication"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:32", "text": ">> read all my thoughts like he knew"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "everything I was thinking and he said it"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "was the most advanced intelligence and I"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "said way more advanced this guy's a I"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:41", "text": "mean plays piano like Mozart I mean he's"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "a brain surgeon he's an extraordinary"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "human being when you meet him I mean"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "he's an extraordinary human being"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:47", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:49", "text": ">> and he's empathetic"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:50", "text": ">> super empathetic and he said it was an"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "advanced intelligence I said what do you"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "mean anything way more advanced than"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "anything on earth it didn't have a mean"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:53:59", "text": ">> bone in its body it was an angel He's"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "described it as an angel."}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:04", "text": ">> And he was and then I remember asking"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "him like because we got kicked out of"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "the hospital."}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:10", "text": ">> When that whole con, you know, that"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "whole commotion happened. You're not"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "supposed to be filming here. You guys"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:14", "text": "don't have permits. What are you doing?"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "Yeah, but this is where it all took"}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "place. Yeah, we know that, but we can't"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "you can't be in here and d I'm sorry."}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "You know, and it's all happening"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "quickly. It's like, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:25", "text": "confrontation with Eric Lopes where I"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "it's all happening quickly and I'm"}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "hearing it's all in a foreign language"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:30", "text": "and I'm trying to process what's going"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "on and I'm thinking this guy probably"}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "just lost his job. He's thinking maybe I"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "might have lost my job. I mean, you"}, {"start": "01:54:33", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "know, we end up leaving going into a"}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "cafe. I mean, we were just walking"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "through the streets doing where the hell"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:41", "text": "we're going, but I wasn't going to let"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "it go there. I needed to sit him down"}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "somewhere. We just walked into a cafe"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "and sat down and took over that cafe."}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:49", "text": ">> I saw that. I saw the staff in the back"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "being like, \"What's going on?\""}, {"start": "01:54:49", "end": "01:54:51", "text": ">> Yeah. And then I'm crying and he's"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "crying."}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:58", "text": ">> Well, he he you know, he says something."}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:55:00", "text": "You can tell when you ask him,"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "you know, you ask him about the being"}, {"start": "01:55:00", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "and he starts going, you know, there was"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "no evil. It was an angel. And he starts"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "getting very emotional. You can tell"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "he's feeling for this being. And"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "you know, he goes, a quote that stuck"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "with me, we have a lot to learn through"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "the eyes of that being. And that was"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "just so powerful seeing how emotionally"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "worked up he was in delivering that and"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "you being able to connect with him and"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "him being able to read that you were"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "sincere because of spending 15 years."}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:40", "text": ">> More than 15 years going back to he knew"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "how much you cared about this and it was"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "cathartic for him. You you you get the"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "sense that this immense weight"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:53", "text": ">> Yeah. was in that moment for the first"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "time perhaps in three decades he was"}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:59", "text": "able to"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "communicate the profound nature of his"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "exchange his telepathic communication"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:07", "text": "with an extraterrestrial with someone"}, {"start": "01:56:03", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "else. Um, the fact that you caught that"}, {"start": "01:56:07", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "on video is is incredible. And and the"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "whole"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:16", "text": ">> David West, I got to say, David West,"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:19", "text": "our DP,"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:21", "text": ">> had such a tough task at hand because"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "everything was on the fly. Nothing was"}, {"start": "01:56:21", "end": "01:56:25", "text": "set up. He had light coming in from the"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:27", "text": "windows. He was like, \"James, I was"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "hustling. I was trying not to miss. I"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "only had one camera and I was adjusting"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "things as fast as I could, trying to"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "make it stand on the face, trying to get"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "you like it was all on the fly and David"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "West did a remarkable job. Thank you,"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "David West. Capturing that moment"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "because it was really intense for me cuz"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "like remember this is an ongoing"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "investigation for me and for Marco Leal."}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:50", "text": "I mean, you look at Marco at one point,"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "the camera pans across to him and he he"}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "wipes his forehead and he shakes his"}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "head a little bit like did that just"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "happen? Is this just happening? Is this"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:01", "text": "happening right now? Like, did I just"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "hear what I thought I heard? And then,"}, {"start": "01:57:01", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "you know, as someone who's investigated"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "the case, you know, 15, 16 years, I I'm"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:11", "text": "like, I wouldn't be doing this if I"}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "didn't believe this happened. Like, what"}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "is it what is it like for you after 29"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "years to finally get this off your"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "chest? And he starts to cry. And then"}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "and then we had that moment and he grabs"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "my hands. the the head neurosurgeon dude"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "grabs my hands and he kisses my hands."}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "He's like, \"You can believe it. You can"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "believe it.\" And that's when he says,"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "\"There's so much to learn from the eyes"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "of that being.\" It's like, \"Wow.\" You"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "know what I mean? And like everybody"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:44", "text": "that I've talked to, I mean, who knows?"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "Like, you never know how a film is going"}, {"start": "01:57:44", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "to be received in the public. I did my"}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "best to try to like, you know, tell the"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "story in a in a compelling way."}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "We have so much more compelling"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:57", "text": "firstirhand eyewitness testimony now."}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "Chief of police, forensic pathologist,"}, {"start": "01:57:57", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "neurosurgeon like another crash witness"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:03", "text": "or another witness of the of the"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "cylindrical shaped object very in pro,"}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "you know, proximity to everything else,"}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:11", "text": ">> but also incorporate some of the uh"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "allegations coming from the American"}, {"start": "01:58:11", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "side, from the congressional hearings. I"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "don't want to like beat a dead horse or"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "like regurgitate a whole bunch of stuff"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:18", "text": "that's already happened, but I felt"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "like, you know, the congressional"}, {"start": "01:58:18", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "hearings are very compelling. the"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "allegations, grass retrieval, a lot of"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "people coming forward. I feel the"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "frustration within the within the"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:30", "text": "community that they're not providing"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "enough details to verify these"}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "extraordinary claims and the criticisms"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "coming in. But I have to remind"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "everybody out there that in the last"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "four years, we've had four congressional"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "hearings, three of which we've talked"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "about, you know, uh potential crash"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "retrieval, people who testifying under"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "oath. Okay, let's like take a moment and"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "recognize that, you know, it's not"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "happening overnight. It's things are"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "moving pretty quickly considering how"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "far it's been since the previous"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:01", "text": "congressional learnings over 50 years."}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:03", "text": ">> But like"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:05", "text": ">> so, you know, taking the congressional"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "hearings, making some sense of that,"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "talking to Eric Davis, aerospace"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "engineer, it's phenomenal. But then kind"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "of fusing the two. So it's like you talk"}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "about crash retrieval, you talk about"}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "biologics, live aliens. I can't think"}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "and maybe you can but personally I can't"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "think of a better case than the Virginia"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "case involving the Americans. I don't"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "think there's a better more well"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "doumented recent case in the world that"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "I know of. And so um but who knows how"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "this going to be received. I mean"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "there's ontological shock have the time"}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "people can't even process. Like I know"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "how I looked at it all when I was doing"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "my second documentary on UFOs. I was It"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "can't be, therefore it isn't, right? So,"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "I don't know, Chris. I I really don't"}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "know. I I I've never"}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "We'll see how this lands."}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:55", "text": ">> I don't care what people think about"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "this documentary if they don't watch it."}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "01:59:58", "text": ">> Watch it."}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "01:59:59", "text": ">> Good point. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:01", "text": ">> That's all I care about is that you"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "watch it. You want to critique some of"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "the editing, you want to critique a"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "music choice, yeah, go for it. I don't"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:07", "text": "give a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:00:07", "end": "02:00:12", "text": ">> Watch that documentary."}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "look into the eyes of the people that"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "are putting everything on the line to"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "tell you about the most important"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "significant interaction that's ever"}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "existed. I think with this movie and"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "with the research that you've been"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:28", "text": "doing, this is some of the most"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "profound important work done in"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:33", "text": "disclosure, including the congressional"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:37", "text": "hearings. I think this to me holds more"}, {"start": "02:00:33", "end": "02:00:40", "text": "value because we're not talking to"}, {"start": "02:00:37", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "lawmakers or people who have, you know,"}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:45", "text": "uh, signed away their lives with NDAs."}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "We're talking to human beings. Human"}, {"start": "02:00:45", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "beings from all walks of life who are"}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "all in their own right credible"}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "regardless of if they've served in the"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:56", "text": "military or not. These people are real"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "and you get to see their emotion. You"}, {"start": "02:00:56", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "get to see the tears flowing from their"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "eyes. This is real. this happened and I"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "think that it's some of the most"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:08", "text": "important work ever in this subject. I"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "think you've done a great service to"}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "humanity with this. I really do."}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:13", "text": ">> Well, I really want to make sure that"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "all the other people involved get the"}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:17", "text": "credit to all the previous researchers,"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "Marco Leo, Lini Cross, you guys."}, {"start": "02:01:17", "end": "02:01:19", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:19", "text": ">> everyone out there that's come before"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "us,"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": ">> Victoriao, Pakuchini,"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": ">> Pakuchini, Aubra, Rodriguez, Marco Pati,"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:29", "text": ">> you know, we are stronger together."}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "Absolutely."}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:35", "text": ">> And and we uh and I think on the"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "coattails of age of disclosure um you"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "know with Lou Alzando and Dan Farah you"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "could call that a scop whatever you want"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "to call it. I personally don't believe"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "that but they're making extraordinary"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "claims extraordinary allegations at the"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "highest levels we've ever seen before in"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:51", "text": "history. And I have to tip my hat to"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "those involved getting that done."}, {"start": "02:01:51", "end": "02:01:55", "text": ">> And then now now we've got the case."}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:57", "text": ">> Yeah. The case."}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:59", "text": ">> This is it. So you're looking for you"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "looking for the evidence. This is the"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "case in my opinion"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:04", "text": ">> and it's ongoing."}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:05", "text": ">> Yeah, it's ongoing."}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:06", "text": ">> You know, I look forward to sitting here"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "in a year from now."}, {"start": "02:02:06", "end": "02:02:08", "text": ">> By the time [laughter] by the time your"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "audience"}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:11", "text": ">> hopefully we'll be able to premiere a"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "really interesting video."}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:14", "text": ">> By the time your audience is watching"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "this, I would would have been back with"}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:19", "text": "another team of people meeting with more"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "doctors in the community than ever"}, {"start": "02:02:19", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "before in history."}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:26", "text": ">> It's exciting."}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "I want you to be safe, man. You know,"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "that's this is another thing I want to"}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "just"}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:31", "text": ">> touch on."}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:32", "text": ">> Um I want to talk about Vtorio a little"}, {"start": "02:02:31", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "bit more here."}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:37", "text": ">> Because prior to the movie,"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:38", "text": ">> you started releasing interviews with"}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "him."}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:44", "text": ">> Uh what was the reason for that?"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:45", "text": ">> Um you know, to announce the fact that"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "he's back in. You're talking about"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "Pakuchini."}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:52", "text": ">> No, I'm talking about Oh, sorry. I'm uh"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "I'm talking about um the neurosurgeal."}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "Okay. Thank you."}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:03:02", "text": "um you know uh when we dropped the"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "trailer that um obviously includes clips"}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "of him in the trailer so that people not"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "not like people aren't going to know."}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:11", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:14", "text": ">> Um we talked to uh Ross Coltart at News"}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:15", "text": "Nation and like hey um you know I'd"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "actually spoken to him a while ago right"}, {"start": "02:03:15", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "after I'd done the interviews. We'd"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "gotten back, I don't know, a couple"}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "months later from Brazil and I was like"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:27", "text": "talking to Ross at uh contact in the"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "desert along with a handful of others"}, {"start": "02:03:27", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "and I was telling him, \"Oh my gosh, we"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "just got back.\" He's like, \"It's one of"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "my favorite cases.\" Like, you're not"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "going to believe, you know, we got he's"}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "like, \"Well, you call me when you're"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:38", "text": "ready"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:41", "text": "to make some announcements, drop the"}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "trailer, announce the film's imminent"}, {"start": "02:03:41", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "release, this sort of thing.\""}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:47", "text": ">> And so, uh, so I contacted him. I was"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "like, \"We're ready. we're ready like in"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "a couple of days. He's like, \"Can you do"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:51", "text": "an interview tomorrow?\" I was like,"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:54", "text": "\"Wow.\" And maybe, you know, you could"}, {"start": "02:03:51", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "have a little teaser clip of Dr. Esau,"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "of course. You know, and and"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:03", "text": "after we'd filmed initially earlier this"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:05", "text": "way earlier this year, we'd gone back a"}, {"start": "02:04:03", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "second time and then by the time you're"}, {"start": "02:04:05", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "audiencing this, gone back a third time"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "because we're really getting to know it."}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "did another hourong plus, you know,"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "head-on interview with him on camera,"}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:20", "text": ">> going into more details."}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:21", "text": ">> Yeah. And he also like defends himself."}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Getting to know his wife"}, {"start": "02:04:21", "end": "02:04:25", "text": ">> where he's like, I'm I'm I'm the head of"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "three hospitals. I'm not a slouch. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:28", "text": ">> Listen to me."}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:30", "text": ">> Exactly. And and with everything to lose"}, {"start": "02:04:28", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "and nothing to gain. I love it. It's"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "like but getting to know his wife"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "getting his wife to know us,"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:39", "text": ">> you know, because we have other there"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "are other there are I can't I um I'm"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:45", "text": "kind of sworn to secrecy until until"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "January and not because uh I'm trying to"}, {"start": "02:04:45", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "be evasive or anything, but there are"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:51", "text": "other things in the works of course that"}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "are that are going to be it's going to"}, {"start": "02:04:51", "end": "02:04:56", "text": "be more than just a documentary. This is"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "a movement and this is involving a lot"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "of people behind the scenes and there"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "will be another big announcement in"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "early January. And I mean big"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "announcement in early January that we've"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "been working on for seven or eight"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "months. And again, I wish I could just"}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:10", "text": "tell you guys everything because I just"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "can't for a number of reasons. You'll"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "understand later. But uh"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:14", "text": ">> will you give me a heads up?"}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:16", "text": ">> Of course I will."}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:17", "text": ">> Cuz I would love to"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:19", "text": ">> of course"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:21", "text": ">> do anything I can to to help with that."}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:23", "text": ">> Of course I will. But it it'll it'll"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "involve things that are happening right"}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "here in the United States. So big big"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "big stuff. Yeah. Um but yeah, so we you"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "know uh Ross is like, \"Hey, can we take"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "a little snippet?\" Of course. You know,"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "let's let's have and let's have him in"}, {"start": "02:05:35", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "his own words. Let's addressing you know"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:43", "text": "and I with the when I had him Dr. Esso"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "with all the other like forensic"}, {"start": "02:05:43", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "pathologists were going to their homes."}, {"start": "02:05:45", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "We're meeting their partners, their"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:51", "text": "wives, their friends, their local"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:53", "text": "hangout spots, the restaurants they they"}, {"start": "02:05:51", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "enjoy to go to, everyone getting to know"}, {"start": "02:05:53", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "each other, literally performing. He's"}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "amazing on the piano. People are"}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "singing, playing guitar."}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:02", "text": ">> He plays at the end of the movie."}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Just getting to know each other."}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "Yeah. He sent us that clip and I was"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:04", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:06", "text": ">> so beautiful."}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:07", "text": ">> That is so beautiful. I need to have"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "that in the movie."}, {"start": "02:06:07", "end": "02:06:10", "text": ">> And of course, the hands of like a"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "neurosurgeon, you don't understand like"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:14", "text": ">> the like literally performing brain"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "surgery. Like these hands have to be"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "steady, stable. Like I'm a magician."}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:22", "text": ">> I know, you know, what it takes to"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "develop certain muscles in the fingers"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "and different parts of the hand for, you"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:27", "text": "know, slight of hand practice. It pales"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "in comparison to what this guy does."}, {"start": "02:06:27", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "I'll tell you that."}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:34", "text": ">> He'd tell me he would say like he's so"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "focused on surgery. I want to say like"}, {"start": "02:06:34", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "he has to take a break and he'll"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "somebody come in to replace him for a"}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:43", "text": "little bit while he takes a break. 10,"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "12, 13 hour surgeries. Jeez. And he"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "goes, \"James, I'm so focused. I'm like"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "I'm looking in through the microscope"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "and I'm my whole existence is inside"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "that brain.\""}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:53", "text": ">> Oh my."}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:55", "text": ">> For so many hours. You understand the"}, {"start": "02:06:53", "end": "02:06:57", "text": "level of intensity of what the work that"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:06:59", "text": "I do. I was like, I never thought of it"}, {"start": "02:06:57", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "like that before. He goes, I was that"}, {"start": "02:06:59", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "like, you know, a couple"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:06", "text": "of these go on for like a whole day,"}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:09", "text": "half a day or whatever. You know what I"}, {"start": "02:07:06", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "mean? And he goes, I'm in that brain cuz"}, {"start": "02:07:09", "end": "02:07:12", "text": "I'm just my whole existence is inside"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "there. And then having to come out of"}, {"start": "02:07:12", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "that existence, it's incredible. You"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "know, I've never been friends with a"}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "brain surgeon before, like a"}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "neurosurgeon. He's incredible. He's an"}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "incredible human being."}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:27", "text": ">> And imagine trusting him to"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:30", "text": ">> I asked him if"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:31", "text": ">> Imagine to trust imagine trusting him to"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "fix your brain."}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. No, we jokingly,"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:35", "text": ">> but don't trust him about what he says."}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:36", "text": ">> Thank you. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:37", "text": ">> That's insane."}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:39", "text": ">> Yeah. I said to him jokingly, I was"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "like, \"Hey, uh, Dr."}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "This is just recently cuz we're on we're"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "you know we're going to be together in a"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "week and uh I said uh could could you do"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "me a favor? And he's like oh what's"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "that? And I said could could you put a"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "bigger brain in my head? [laughter]"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "We both had a really good laugh"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "because it's like you know we're always"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "joking around with each other. He goes"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:02", "text": "when I see you again I'm going to show"}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "you a real brain like this. I was like"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "really? He goes oh yeah."}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:08", "text": ">> Oh my god. [laughter and gasps]"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:10", "text": ">> Yeah. He's He's incredible. He's"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "amazing. I loved the added him. Have you"}, {"start": "02:08:10", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "had has he had any"}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:15", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:15", "text": ">> backlash and repercussions due to his"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "appearance?"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:19", "text": ">> And and this is before the movie comes"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:20", "text": "out. So, this is only because of"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:22", "text": ">> What was put out?"}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:22", "text": ">> He lost his job."}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:24", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:25", "text": ">> But he got his job back because he was"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:27", "text": "so needed."}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:29", "text": ">> But yeah, he Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:29", "text": ">> Wait, how did he lose his job? How did"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "he find out?"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:34", "text": ">> They uh I don't know if he was fired or"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "what exactly what happened, but I And I"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "was so upset when"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:37", "text": ">> directly because of this."}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:40", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:41", "text": "But then then within a week they"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:44", "text": "realized they couldn't survive without"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "him. He had to he was so critical. He"}, {"start": "02:08:44", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "was the head guy and he was he could do"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "things that nobody else can do. That's"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "incredible."}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:52", "text": ">> So they had to have him back on board."}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:56", "text": "So yeah, that happened. So I put out a"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:58", "text": "video like and I said, you know, I w it"}, {"start": "02:08:56", "end": "02:09:00", "text": "was a walking talking video in the"}, {"start": "02:08:58", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "countryside. I said, look, whether you"}, {"start": "02:09:00", "end": "02:09:03", "text": "believe him or you don't believe him,"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "this man has dedicated his life to"}, {"start": "02:09:03", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "making lives better for other people. He"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "is a hero. He's dedicated his life to do"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "amazing things. At the very least, have"}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "respect for him when you're criticizing."}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "Just give this man the dignity and"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "respect he deserves. And then I said,"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "\"If there's anybody out there in the"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "military community thinking about paying"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "him a visit, I will dedicate my life to"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "finding and exposing that effort. I"}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "don't care. Whatever it takes."}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "We're watching you. We're watching him."}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:40", "text": "He's under our protection. And I and any"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "other witness that comes forward is the"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "same gets the same treatment. They need"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "to be respected and protected to show"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:50", "text": "like and and and that's been totally"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "fine ever since. And I think that he"}, {"start": "02:09:50", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "really appreciated that video that I put"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "out cuz I was like, I'm keeping an eye"}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "on you. We all are. And we got your"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "back. The fact that he got fired for"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "saying what he said and then rehired is"}, {"start": "02:10:01", "end": "02:10:04", "text": "so"}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:06", "text": ">> I mean I love the fact that he got"}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "rehired just goes to show you like he"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "didn't get fired for a lack of mental"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "faculty."}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:11", "text": ">> Yeah"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:12", "text": ">> because then they wouldn't have rehired"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:14", "text": "him."}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:16", "text": ">> He got fired for an entirely different"}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "reason. One that they had no choice but"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "to overlook. So it couldn't have been"}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:19", "text": "that serious."}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:21", "text": ">> Like that's"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:24", "text": ">> I'll get him to make a statement about"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:26", "text": "it soon. Very soon. Well, I hope"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "02:10:26", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "I hope everything goes well. I hope"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "everything goes well for him, for you,"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "for your team, for everyone involved."}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "Uh, you know, you have you're in my"}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "thoughts constantly and I'm I'm really"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "like, you know, throwing out whatever"}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "protections I can around you and your"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "whole team and and all the witnesses. I"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "think uh just absolutely"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:46", "text": ">> we're in this together and we're"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "stronger together."}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:50", "text": ">> Yeah, man. Absolutely. I got some"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "questions I want you to answer. Well,"}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "actually, our audience does. So, give me"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "a second."}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:55", "text": ">> You got it, brother."}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:56", "text": ">> All right. So, we have some questions"}, {"start": "02:10:55", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "here."}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:00", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:01", "text": ">> From our lovely audience who's always uh"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:02", "text": "who always brings the heat with the"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:05", "text": "questions, I got to say. And if"}, {"start": "02:11:02", "end": "02:11:06", "text": ">> are you neither confirmed nor deny"}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:08", "text": ">> if you guys want a chance and an"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "opportunity to ask our guests some"}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:11", "text": "questions, you can also sign up to the"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "membership. With that comes a lot of"}, {"start": "02:11:11", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "perks, including extra episodes, but"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "also uh you get to Yeah, you get to"}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "appear on this little board behind me."}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "And here is the first question from"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "Dracalich."}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:34", "text": ">> What film do you believe best represents"}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "the phenomenon?"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:38", "text": ">> The phenomenon. [laughter]"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:40", "text": ">> That's my answer. Um, but if you had to"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "maybe a film that isn't even like a"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "documentary about the phenomenon, like"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "what is maybe like a fiction or science"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "fiction movie, do you think would close"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "encounters?"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:51", "text": ">> Yeah, I think that's"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:52", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:52", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:53", "text": ">> you know,"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:56", "text": ">> has everything."}, {"start": "02:11:53", "end": "02:11:59", "text": ">> It's really funny because Varia, if you"}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "think about it, the Veni case 1996,"}, {"start": "02:11:59", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "like think of the parallels to"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:09", "text": "ET, right?"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "I often think what would have happened"}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:17", "text": "cuz when Katya Lilani and and Vyia came"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "within 10 ft of a live creature in broad"}, {"start": "02:12:17", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "daylight, remember that Lilani and her"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "sister, the two youngest, cuz Katya was"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "21, Liliani was 16, her daughter, her"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "daughter, her sister was 14, Vularia."}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "She grabbed her younger sister and hight"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:38", "text": "tailed it out of there. I don't know how"}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:41", "text": "far they got, 100 ft, 200 feet,"}, {"start": "02:12:38", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "whatever. And they realized,"}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "[ __ ] we left Katya back there. Katya's"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "back there and she leaves her younger"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "sister, Vyuria, and Liliana goes back to"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "get Katya. Well, Katya was frozen,"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "locked eyes on this creature. And the"}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:13:00", "text": "creature was pleading with her, \"I need"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "help. I'm weak. I'm frightened."}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "um just scared and was asking now what"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "would happen? Let's just say if Katya"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "had decided to lure this creature into"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "safety, take it in. Take it in the"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:14", "text": "house."}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:14", "text": ">> I see where you're going."}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:16", "text": ">> I'm just saying."}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:16", "text": ">> Dress it up [laughter] or whatever. Put"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:18", "text": "some makeup on it."}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": ">> Yeah. But I'm just saying like that"}, {"start": "02:13:18", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "would have been the real life ET."}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:23", "text": ">> Wild how it mimicked reality before it"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:25", "text": ">> You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:27", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:31", "text": ">> Anyway, so could could have taken a"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "different turn. Yeah, absolutely."}, {"start": "02:13:31", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "Which one first here? Let's do this one"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "first. This is from Edson."}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "Like I'm at a train station in Paris."}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:52", "text": ">> There's only one stop and it's"}, {"start": "02:13:50", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "disclosure."}, {"start": "02:13:52", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "If you could truth serum one person"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "about the phenomenon any era, who would"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "you choose?"}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:02", "text": ">> It's a good question."}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:04", "text": ">> Hal Putoff."}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:04", "text": ">> How put off with Truth Serum?"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:11", "text": ">> Interesting. I would do Eisenhower."}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:11", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "that's pretty good."}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:14", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:15", "text": ">> I can't argue with that. Or he or or"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "Truman."}, {"start": "02:14:15", "end": "02:14:18", "text": ">> Or Forestall."}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Or Truman."}, {"start": "02:14:18", "end": "02:14:23", "text": ">> Truman. Yeah, Truman. Not not bad. Or or"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "George Bush Senior."}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:28", "text": ">> George Bush Senior. Yep."}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:29", "text": ">> Good good point. Good point. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "that's a good point. That's a good"}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:31", "text": "point. I stand corrected."}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:36", "text": ">> Even um"}, {"start": "02:14:31", "end": "02:14:36", "text": ">> yeah, probably Detliff Bronciologist"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:39", "text": "back who who apparently he was the one"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "who worked on these beings and the"}, {"start": "02:14:39", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "bodies and stuff."}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:43", "text": ">> MJ12,"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:44", "text": ">> you know. I've heard that"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:47", "text": ">> Cheney would have been a good one."}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:49", "text": ">> Yeah, Cheney could have been a good one."}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "But probably Bush Senior cuz he was head"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "of CIA."}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:52", "text": ">> He was"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:53", "text": ">> apparently he was told about the Hullman"}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "Landing case. I don't know if he was"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "shown the evidence or not."}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:59", "text": ">> That would have been good. So I mean if"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "I had to choose one now that you're"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "saying that"}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:06", "text": ">> Carter also like I mean Carter leo I"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "would say uh George Bush senior."}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:11", "text": ">> I'd go I'd still go Eisenhower I think."}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:12", "text": ">> I mean you hear you hear that address"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:13", "text": "when he left office."}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:15", "text": ">> That's true"}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:17", "text": ">> about the military-industrial complex. I"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "mean, that came from somewhere."}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:20", "text": ">> Yeah. When did Eisen arrow step down? Is"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "it 60?"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:25", "text": ">> Uh, no. Was it in the 50s?"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "I thought it was 61. You gave that"}, {"start": "02:15:25", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "address."}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:29", "text": ">> Oh, was it? Okay."}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:30", "text": ">> I could be wrong. I could I thought it"}, {"start": "02:15:29", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "was 61. I could be wrong."}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:32", "text": ">> Check."}, {"start": "02:15:31", "end": "02:15:33", "text": ">> Well, I know he served in the 50s, so it"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "might have been 60s. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:37", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:38", "text": ">> But yeah, I'm pretty sure he's got he"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "took a lot to the grave."}, {"start": "02:15:38", "end": "02:15:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Unfortunate, too, right?"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:43", "text": ">> Yeah. He seemed like a decent man from"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "like when you hear that speech, it seems"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "like he was strongarmed into obviously"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:49", "text": "not giving up secrets. When you hear"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "about the lore and stuff that involves"}, {"start": "02:15:49", "end": "02:15:53", "text": "Eisenhower and the gifts that he might"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "have been given at these meetings and"}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "whatnot,"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:16:01", "text": ">> you know, one other person that comes to"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "mind is, you know, when I uh I told you"}, {"start": "02:16:01", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "about this guy Jeff Sagansky earlier in"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:07", "text": "the show. Yeah. And uh"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:08", "text": ">> Jeff, I had tre I still do. I have, in"}, {"start": "02:16:07", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "fact, he just called me a couple days"}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "ago. I need to call him back. But uh he"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "was head of Sony Pictures. He was very"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "influential behind the scenes. Never"}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "wanted credit. Never wanted a dime. And"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:23", "text": "one day I asked Jeff Sagansky,"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "\"Hey, why are you so good to me? Why are"}, {"start": "02:16:23", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "you helping me out?\" He's like, \"You"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:29", "text": "know, James, you're a small independent"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "filmmaker. You're one guy out there"}, {"start": "02:16:29", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "trying to like really get to the truth,"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:36", "text": "find out what's going on. I admire that"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "in you, your tenacity.\" And I was"}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "friends with Jackie Gleason."}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:41", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:44", "text": ">> And I said, \"Really?\" I said, \"Really?\""}, {"start": "02:16:41", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "And uh not really knowing exactly where"}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "this was going to go, but he goes,"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "\"Yeah, I worked on a I think he worked"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "on some film with him. I'm not sure"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "which one it was a while ago,"}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "obviously.\" And uh and Jackie Gleason"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "told Jeff Sagansky to his face, I don't"}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:17:01", "text": "care what anybody tells you about UFOs."}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "I know for a fact they are absolutely"}, {"start": "02:17:01", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "real and the government knows it. No"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "question. just don't he didn't say hey"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:10", "text": "the president of the United States took"}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "me out to an air base in Florida and"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "showed me bodies and good but he did all"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "but say that is interestingly enough so"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:17", "text": ">> Jackie Gleason"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:18", "text": ">> cool"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:21", "text": ">> could have been one too"}, {"start": "02:17:18", "end": "02:17:23", "text": ">> I wonder what celebrity would have been"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "given such access because you have to"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "think that even the people in charge"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "with NDAs that have signed their lives"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "away are still can still be susceptible"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:35", "text": "to vanity"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:37", "text": ">> and you know some of them must be like,"}, {"start": "02:17:35", "end": "02:17:39", "text": "you know, oh, that that James Fox guy."}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "I'm really big fan of his, you know, and"}, {"start": "02:17:39", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "like they're, you know, it it's not"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "unlikely that there's a celebrity out"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:48", "text": "there that got some form of access."}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:49", "text": ">> Yeah. My problem is something my problem"}, {"start": "02:17:48", "end": "02:17:51", "text": "is they couldn't do that to me cuz I"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "wouldn't take it to my grave."}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:57", "text": ">> I I I wouldn't cuz I feel like humanity"}, {"start": "02:17:55", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "so sorry I step away from the mic. I"}, {"start": "02:17:57", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "just feel like"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:01", "text": ">> I wouldn't take it to the grave. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:18:00", "end": "02:18:03", "text": ">> I would be like if you're going to show"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "me this, I'm going to talk about it. Oh,"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:07", "text": "don't give me any cuz I feel like why"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:07", "text": "should I be"}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:11", "text": ">> any better than anybody else. Why should"}, {"start": "02:18:09", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "I be shown something that everybody"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "should be shown the same?"}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:17", "text": ">> So, I wouldn't make that. I mean, I'd go"}, {"start": "02:18:15", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "and see it, but I would reveal that I"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:20", "text": "saw it."}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I would write a science fiction"}, {"start": "02:18:20", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "book."}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:25", "text": ">> That's a that's just Yeah. Put it on"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:26", "text": "between the lines. Yeah. Whether, you"}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "know, you hear about secret machines,"}, {"start": "02:18:26", "end": "02:18:31", "text": "Nick Pope also wrote science fiction,"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:33", "text": ">> you know. So, yeah. Interesting."}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Last question here before we let"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "you go. And this one quite a deep"}, {"start": "02:18:35", "end": "02:18:39", "text": "question. So,"}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:41", "text": ">> you know,"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:41", "text": "if if you have no answer for it, that's"}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "fine."}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:46", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:48", "text": ">> Have you learned"}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "from Zen, have you learned anything in"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:52", "text": "your investigations that has influenced"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "your view of the on the afterlife?"}, {"start": "02:18:52", "end": "02:18:57", "text": ">> I'm going to take a vow for 300, please."}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:19:00", "text": "I'll take a Y. No, I'm kidding. I'm"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "kidding. Yeah. Yeah, I have. Yeah. and"}, {"start": "02:19:00", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "and and uh"}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:10", "text": "unfortunately right now I am dealing"}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "with my uh older sister Janine who I"}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:14", "text": "cherish and she has multiple sclerosis"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:17", "text": "and she's succumbing to multiple"}, {"start": "02:19:14", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "sclerosis at her will uh and it would"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "have happened by the time this this this"}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "came out and we talked recently about"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:27", "text": "and she's very pragmatic and you know"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:32", "text": "she's like look man I've had a great"}, {"start": "02:19:27", "end": "02:19:33", "text": "life don't pity poor me. Uh, I said that"}, {"start": "02:19:32", "end": "02:19:35", "text": "when it came to the point where I could"}, {"start": "02:19:33", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "no longer take care of myself, I didn't"}, {"start": "02:19:35", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "want to be a burden on anybody else."}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "Want to be a burden on my kids. I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "going to I'm going to go my way. I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "going to button up all my affairs, get"}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:48", "text": "everything in order. This is what she's"}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:51", "text": "done."}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "And then uh I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "02:19:51", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "would it be okay if I tried to"}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:56", "text": "communicate with you on the other side?\""}, {"start": "02:19:54", "end": "02:19:58", "text": "She's like, \"Of course. Of course.\" And"}, {"start": "02:19:56", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "I said, \"Vice versa, if you want to try"}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:01", "text": "to communicate with me on the other"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:02", "text": "side.\" I mean, it's kind of weird having"}, {"start": "02:20:01", "end": "02:20:05", "text": "these conversations when someone's still"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:07", "text": "alive, right? But it's just it is what"}, {"start": "02:20:05", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "it is, man. It's really depressing and"}, {"start": "02:20:07", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "really sad and I've cried so much in the"}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "last couple weeks, you know? Um I've"}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "been very emotional. So many things"}, {"start": "02:20:13", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "going on. Uh but she said, \"Uh well,"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:20", "text": "what what's the best evidence that"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:23", "text": "you've heard that there's something on"}, {"start": "02:20:20", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "the other side?\" And I said, 'Well,"}, {"start": "02:20:23", "end": "02:20:29", "text": "I work with Leslie Keane and she wrote a"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:33", "text": "book about surviving death. I think it"}, {"start": "02:20:29", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "was called Surviving Death. And and then"}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "there was a Netflix original made. I"}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "think it was a six-part series or"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "something about it called Surviving"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "Death based on her book."}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:44", "text": "So, I called Leslie and I've known her"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:46", "text": "for years, for years. I was one of the"}, {"start": "02:20:44", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "first people to put on put her on camera"}, {"start": "02:20:46", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "with Tim Coleman for Out of the Blue"}, {"start": "02:20:48", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "back in the late 90s. I think it was"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:55", "text": "late 90s or Yeah, probably late 90s"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "2000. I don't know, whatever."}, {"start": "02:20:55", "end": "02:21:00", "text": "Uh, and I said, \"Leslie, give me your"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:02", "text": "best give me your best shot. What What's"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "How do you know there's something on the"}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "other side?\" And without a moment's"}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:11", "text": "hesitation, she's like, \"Well, my um my"}, {"start": "02:21:07", "end": "02:21:15", "text": "partner lover died in my arms, you know,"}, {"start": "02:21:11", "end": "02:21:18", "text": "while ago.\" And you know he was there"}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "one minute and then the next minute his"}, {"start": "02:21:18", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "soul it was just a carcass. It was like"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "a piece of styrofo I mean it was"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:30", "text": "cardboard you know and she was like"}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "where did the essence of his soul like"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:35", "text": "where what just happened? You know what"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "I mean? Cuz it's very obvious that this"}, {"start": "02:21:35", "end": "02:21:39", "text": "he's gone. So, she started researching"}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:43", "text": "it"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "and she said that she found a medium. I"}, {"start": "02:21:43", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "don't think she'd ever met this medium"}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "and I she might have even used an alias,"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "but she I was I think it was a remote"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:54", "text": "thing. Somebody in um it might have been"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "Arizona"}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "and uh she said, \"Look, James, it was"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "one of two things. either somehow this"}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:04", "text": "medium read my mind things that I"}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "weren't even thinking about very"}, {"start": "02:22:04", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "intimate moments with my lover before"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:10", "text": "that individual died like details that"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:13", "text": "I've never shared with anybody on the"}, {"start": "02:22:10", "end": "02:22:15", "text": "planet ever. Either she read that in my"}, {"start": "02:22:13", "end": "02:22:17", "text": "mind which I wasn't thinking about which"}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:19", "text": "quite honestly I hadn't thought about in"}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "a long time or she communicated with him"}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:23", "text": "on the other side. It was one or the"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "other. It's like wow that's that's"}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "that's pretty compelling."}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "Thanks for sharing that. Of"}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:32", "text": ">> course."}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:33", "text": ">> Good luck with everything."}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:36", "text": ">> Thank you. I appreciate that."}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:38", "text": ">> James, you're a gentleman. You're always"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "welcome here. And every time you come"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "here, I am just completely flabbergasted"}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:45", "text": "by the amount of empathy you have and"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:47", "text": "the amount of care that you take with"}, {"start": "02:22:45", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "all of these investigations, everything"}, {"start": "02:22:47", "end": "02:22:51", "text": "you do. So, I wish you nothing but the"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "best of safety and luck in your"}, {"start": "02:22:51", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "continuation of this amazing journey."}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "Thanks. Well, I appreciate you having me"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "on and you're the most amazing magician"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "and podcaster out there. One of the top."}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "So, I really appreciate you too."}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:03", "text": ">> Appreciate it."}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "02:23:13", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "[music]"}]

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And I will tell"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "you what she said about this this being."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "What he did was forwarded me an email"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that was sent to him from someone he"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "knew inside the DIA and it says, \"Here's"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "what I know about that film.\" Um, it was"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "classified as an unauthorized viewing."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "This film was filmed on April 22nd, 1991"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "at 3:15 in the afternoon on behalf of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "coordinated by the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Agency. He said it was a clone"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "extraterrestrial biological entity type"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "2 from the Taetti star system. Here's"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "were the men in the room. The first name"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "was Rear Admiral Ned Schaefer, Captain"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Lel Jacobe. He becomes director of DIA."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Dr. Craig McFersonson, Robert Donovan,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Army Intel, Dr. Wilfford Webb Wilson."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "The next name on the list was Carthusian"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Monk 1. Carthusian Monk 2. Yes, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "now in the Da Vinci Code. 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What he"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "said was that remote viewers with the"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "NSA were getting this remote viewing of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "a white building in the far upper east"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "coast where members there had the gift."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "There was a total of six monks that they"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "used that they were used for counter"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "intelligence in the 80s. They were some"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "of them were brought to S4 asked to do"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "thought projection interviews with these"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "beings. And he said that him"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> he said that"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> he said that it took a a a couple of"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "days to describe how human beings live"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "in our time seconds minutes. The being"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "did not understand that. This type of"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "alien they measure time in their"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "experiences layered on top of each"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "other."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "No one no one on the internet has ever"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "said this before. If you want to make a"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "general drinking his coffee in the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "morning spit up, tell him this. The new"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "designation of aliens is saber. I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "like, like the sword. He's like, yes,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "saber. I said, what does that stand for?"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "He goes, synthetic astrobiological"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "extraterrestrial races. Don't ever ask"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "about it. And I am telling you, do not"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "ever bring it up on any of your podcasts"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "or whatnot. And I don't want you talking"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "about other species other than the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "grays. And if you stick to the grays,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "you will be safe. I can guarantee it."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> So my story is I was about um I was 11"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "years old living in Germany at the time."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "My dad was in the military. Um we lived"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "off base and I was walking with a friend"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "at the same age, bright daylight, middle"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "of summer. Uh we were just walking along"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "um the a housing area for the military"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "families. Um, so passing by our school"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "and a chapel and I remember I was just"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "looking at a playground um, in front of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "me and all of a sudden everything went"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "completely pitch black and I was just"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "staring into the inkiest darkest cave"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "sort of blackness I've ever seen. And"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "then it came everything came right back"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "as if someone had switched the light off"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "on the sun and flipped it back off. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "if that wasn't strange enough, I turned"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "to tell my friend and she says, \"Did you"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "see that?\" and the same thing happened"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "to her at the exact same time. Um, we"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "were excited and scared, ran all the way"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "home and no one had had the same"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "experience. Um, over the years I've met"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "one or two people that h have had"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "similar um, if not the exact same thing"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "happen to them. Um, and they were kids,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "too. So, kind of weird."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, today I am joined"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "by a very special guest, uh, Mr. John"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Stewart, former pro wrestler, uh, ran"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "for governor of Illinois. Like, this"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "guy's done it all. Um, but most of all,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "you've been extremely vocal,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "uh, in the UFO topic. Now, we're going"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "to get into a lot of different things"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "today, but the main the main piece of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the pie that I wanted to and the reason"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "that I wanted to have you on was talking"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "about this alleged real video of an"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "alien that is being interviewed uh"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "potentially at S4 and obviously with the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "lore behind Bob Lazar and Dan Burch and"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "everything else, all these connections."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "So, I wanted to talk to you about that"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "today. So, first of all, John, thank you"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "so much for joining me."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> Thank you for having me. uh told you in"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "our our little talk before this uh I I"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "think you're one of the best podcasts"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "out there. Your sincerity rings through"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and comes through the camera. I'm not,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "you know, I'm not uh giving you a snow"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "job, you know, um but I I was uh really"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "thought that you could do a great"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "service to my journey, which is all this"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "has ever been. It's $30,000 of my money,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "six and a half going on seven years of"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "my time. And I'm still telling people,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "I've got my hat in my hand. Mr. Magcgoo,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Inspector Cluso, I don't know anything."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Please come help me. I still got to"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "finish this journey. And and I and I"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "hope you can do justice to that because"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "I have to be be honest. I I have not"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "maybe at times communicated that to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "people where they where they they get"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "into a confirmation bias."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> There's something that I rub them the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "wrong way or um and I want to do a a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "little preamble and I'm not the preamble"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "is this"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> is that folks what I am have said for"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "seven years has never changed. It is my"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "journey that is not BS. I'm not looking"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "for attention. I've had attention in my"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "entire life as a pro wrestler, football"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "player, political camp. I don't need"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "attention. And it isn't for money"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "because I'm one of the only UFO reachers"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "that's still in the the red. And and"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "it's funny that the fortune telling"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "machine talked about finances because"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that's what I want. You know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "$30,000 in the hole for for what. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the I I know people like to get into the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "chat log and this is BS and you can say"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "whatever you want about what was shown"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "to me, what was told to me, what I"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "experienced, who I emailed, who I that I"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "appreciate, but but tell me the story"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "behind why you think something is not"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "copracetic."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> To to help me. Don't say John Stewart's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "BS. I am simply the reporter, the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "journalist telling you, I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "this for six and a half years. Can I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "please just tell you my story that"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "that's all I've asked people that I"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "haven't that hasn't translated"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> very well and I hope that it does today"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "because I I I know the way you are, your"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "demeanor, your character, and I really"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "hoping for great things from this"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "podcast. And I don't and I mean that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "sincerely,"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> of course. Yeah. And I appreciate I"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "appreciate you saying that. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "know, skepticism I think is healthy and"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "I I I too practice skepticism and I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "sure you do as well."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And and you know, it's really"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "help. So, uh, you know, today I will be"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "asking you about a few things that I"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "might want you to clear up or even the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "things that you're skeptical about about"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the things you believe in. Um, but as"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "you know, as you might know on this"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "channel, you know, one of the I think"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "one of the reasons for this channel"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "isn't to get to the truth necessarily."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Uh, I think that'll come with time. But"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "I think it's allowing people to speak,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "allowing stories to be told, unfiltered,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "no judgment. And after that, we can hold"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "up all that sort of anecdotal evidence"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to the light and see if it connects, see"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "if it"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> absolutely, you know, see if we're"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "finding points of connection and then"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "forming hypotheses, discussing, you"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "know, trying to dissect it as a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "community. Um, but there are definitely"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "detractors out there online that will,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "you know, simply try to attack your"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "character or will try to simply debunk"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "something um out of an opinion or a"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "gutshot,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Uh, and I think it's it's difficult but"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "healthy to remain balanced in this uh"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "space specifically because obviously"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "obviously we're looking at anomalies."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "you know, we're looking at the anomaly"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "and within that anomaly, there are a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "million other anomalies. And so, we're"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "already looking at one. Where do we draw"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the line between the others? Right? And"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "that's where some people, I think, get"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "maybe you ruffle feathers in a way that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "people are like, I'm not ready for that"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "yet. And that's okay. I think uh"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> uh a very famed journalist told me six"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "months ago, John, you've got a live"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "being, puppet or not, real or not."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "That's a really hard thing for anyone,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the media, government, UFO researchers,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "UFO community to metastasize."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Absolutely. And metabolize. That"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> hit me. That was like, well, that is a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "great statement. This is we're not"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "talking about a fuzzy saucer in the sky."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "We are talking about a very creepy weird"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "looking being. Whatever it is, puppet,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "interdimensional, offplanet,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "interstellar,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "that's going to be very hard for people"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "to metabolize. And you that's what"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "that's that's what you're facing. You're"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "facing this confirmation bias of I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "want I'M NOT READY FOR THIS to even"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "remotely be"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> possibly true. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> and and that's fine, I think, too. Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> you know, everybody's on a separate"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "journey."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Some people are, you know, still looking"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "at orbs and some people are looking at"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "reptilians on the moon. You know,"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "there's there's a whole gamut of things"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "to look into in this phenomenon. So, I"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "don't I don't blame people if you know"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the alien interview isn't the first"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "thing they they they want to see within"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "this phenomenon. I don't blame them"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "either."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Go watch The Phenomenon by James"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Fox. It's a good nice easy way in. But"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "after you're done with the crafts, Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "You know, let's talk about what I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "interested in. Let's talk about these"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> Talk about the pilots."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. Yep. Um, okay. So, take"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "us back uh 19. Uh, I had"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> you know that I just got a ch I got a I"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "got the the the the shivers."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Yeah. It's because it gives me PTSD."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "I've been doing this for six and a half,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "seven years and it's uh"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "you just did like a hypnotic thing."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Let's go back. That's what what's you"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "know. So, it it um that's good. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "good. This is I these podcasts are my my"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "therapy and I and I I don't I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that candidly and sincerely. This is my"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "therapy too of talking through this"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "begging people to help me and but I just"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "got a I just got a shiver. So that's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> That's a good sign. Um July 26, 1996, it"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "was a Friday. This video, this video"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "tape was then handed by uh this"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "gentleman Victor goes by Victor uh to"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "John Coleman who is a president of"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Rocket Picture."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Tom Coleman, president of Rocket"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "Pictures, who also created the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "documentary in 1997. Um you know, sort"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "of outing this whole story to the world."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "uh which you know pre uh predated the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "obvious uh interview that happened with"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Art Bell afterwards on the phone and"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "then the later interview again with"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Victor where he shows up I think a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "decade later."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> well what's nice about my research is"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that I have the backstory and I can tell"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "it now because I put out my documentary"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "everything's out which was great. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "which which is great because I can speak"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "to you now and don't have to say I have"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "to tell you in a skiff or something you"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "know something like"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> well you're in a skiff so you can tell."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "I know that. So, um about uh four or"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "five days before"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "canding Tom Coleman the the video, we"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "have now since found out that Victor was"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "making the rounds in Hollywood of"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "television studios"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "um trying to sell them this VHS tape."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "by his own admission and by others that"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "that knew of this process at Rocket, um"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "these people at these television"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "studios, this guy's a little weird. He's"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "a little off."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Um uh but the biggest reason was no one"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "could guarantee his anonymity. And"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Victor speaks of this. they they they"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "would not be willing to sign a contract,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "pay him in cash, and not really use his"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "name and and and and he didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "be on on the video. This is something no"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "one under no one knows about. Victor did"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "not want to appear whether in silhouette"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "or whether in voice changer. Victor did"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "not want to be part of the video."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> This isn't just him uh shopping it"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "around and and getting turned down. This"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "is him where his demands weren't met."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> Okay. in in his security wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "met, which is my first, you know, my"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "first thing that the trial balloon that"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "I throw out there would a because and"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "I'm so glad I thought of this when this"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "first came out before you were in the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "UFO community, everyone in the UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "community told everyone that was"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "interested, including me in 97, 98, 99,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> find out who Victor is. You prove the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "provenence of the video. If Victor is a"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "a paid actor, you know, central casting,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> video's obviously a hoax. But if somehow"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "this is the UFO community, this is why a"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "lot of people run from this. Like I"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "don't don't throw my words back in my"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "face. The UFO community told me, \"But a"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "victor is a government employee, a"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "military person, somebody from an"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "administration, an elected official, uh"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "a a chaplain with the the government."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Wow. Now we got a whole new we got a"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "whole new ball game.\""}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": ">> So, I have been living with this in my"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "back of my head. Prove John. Prove who"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "Victor is. And I'm simply asking the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "first trial balloon. If you're an actor,"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "are you are you leaving studios because"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "they can't protect your identity?"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "Wouldn't you want your identity out"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "there if you're this egoomaniac actor"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "that most actors are? They want their"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "name. They want their recognition. That"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "struck me. We realized the last studio"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "head he talked to was Mike Darnell of"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Fox Unscripted Television. He just hung"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "up on me three weeks ago because he"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "thought I was lying to his wife"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> that I I said this is John Stewart from"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Chicago. I have a real quick question. I"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "think he thought I was a bill collector."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "He literally the Hollywood people are"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "very very rough."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "They are they are not polished. Um they"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the manners are horrible."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> And so he he just I went to go confirm"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the story just three weeks ago and he"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "hung up on me. But Mike Darnell is with"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Fox unscripted television department and"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "Victor goes in and you know Victor's is"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "a pain in the ass. He's precise. He's"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "he's not easy to deal with and they shoe"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "him out. Victor tells the story but he"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "doesn't say Fox. We found out that it"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "was Fox TV."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "He goes across the street to a news"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "stand across the street from Fox Studios"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "and it's a news stand. He picks up"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Variety magazine. He opens it up and he"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "sees a advertisement for a Rodney"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "Dangerfield comedic golf VHS tape and he"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "figures maybe this production company"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "who's not so high flulutin as Fox and"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "and ABC, NBC, CBS, whatnot, maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "they'll take a chance at this. Maybe I"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "maybe they'll be malleable with my"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "demands."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> Yeah. uh f uh sorry to interrupt but"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "folks have to understand as well during"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "this time like obviously the the"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "audience that is listening is a little"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "more mature but obviously today you just"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "put that stuff on YouTube you you make"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "your own channel you don't need anyone"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "else but back then you needed to go"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "through these gatekeepers you absolutely"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "had to for anything to be seen at all um"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "so you know that's the reason he was"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "shopping this around you couldn't just"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "he didn't have a platform"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> and this is why I came on the show I"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "have been trying to tell people for six"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "years from my knowledge of Hollywood. I"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "have written three scripts. I have had"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "four um reality show go to pilot which"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "is which is huge. They didn't make it on"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "TV."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> I know about Hollywood blockers getting"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "to these people. Chris, what I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "to tell your audience and this is very"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "important with the background of Victor"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "to get a meeting with a network in 96."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the verbiage that you would know to to"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "to be able to tell the blocker, the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "secretary, the receptionist to get to a"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "Mike Darnell from Fox and then get that"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "meeting in his office. The verbiage you"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "would have to know would be beyond just"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "a government employee. It was somebody"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "that was familiar to some degree with"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "audiovisisual audiovisisual production."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "something very very important to"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "remember that it was near impossible to"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "do to do this without some knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "the vernacular of Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> Very important."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> So he calls up Rocket Pictures. Tom"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Coleman answers. Tom Coleman thinks it's"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "his brother joking him. He passes the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "phone off to Jeff Broadreet. Now this is"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "where I debunk myself a little bit. And"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "remember, I'm just trying to find the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "truth. sitting at the Rocket Pictures"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "office is the only Hollywood director"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "that has ever been TO AREA 51. JUST SO"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "happens the hour I'm debunking myself. I"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "know you're looking at me like, \"Wait,"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "why is John debunking his own I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "I I I I called that into question. I"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "find that a little suspicious that the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "only Hollywood director, Jeff"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Broadstreet, who I talked to three times"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "a month for six years, happened to be"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "sitting at the office, was friends with"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Shawn David Morton when Victor called."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "They bring Victor in. Uh Jeff"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Broadstreet tells me, matter of fact,"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "the biggest PETA pain in the butt on the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "history of the history of the world."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "Demand after demand after demand. We've"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "settled them down. We came to a"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "financial demand. We said, \"There's no"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "way we're doing this unless you come on"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "screen.\" Silhouette voice changer. He"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "reluctantly agreed to that."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> Yeah. He was not uh it appeared in the"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "video, however, he was very uneasy."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": ">> Oh, hi."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> And not happy."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": ">> Was there something about the content"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "that caused them to file it differently"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "or give it special handling?"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": ">> This interview was terminated."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "The interview resumed only after a"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "discussion of the ground rules."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> Have you personally seen the alien being"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "that appears in the tape?"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> Yes, I have. But I stress I was not"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "necessarily present at the interview"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "session that appears on the tape."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> He was not a happy camper."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> Not not a happy camper."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> Not there and not even in the phone call"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "with Art Bell, which he also voiced out"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "that he felt like he was kind of coerced"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "into doing. So, not not once"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": ">> did it seem like he was very uh willing"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "to come forward."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Uh, welcome to the program, Victor."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> Yes, I think it's fair to say at this"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "moment I'm in defense."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Uh, this snafu with the telephone"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "numbers. Can I ask you who is at your"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "studio at this time?"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Um but then you know like later we can"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "talk about this but there there was uh"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "in some people's contention with this"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "was a financial aspect of it like he did"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "receive money for something and he"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "explains that and we'll talk about that"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "a little bit later and I do want to"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "address it because I think it's an"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "important point to address."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": ">> Um but yeah he he was very reticent did"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "not want to come forward on camera so uh"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "yeah visibly angry. Well unvisibly"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "invisibly angry. And it's funny because"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "the the director Jeff Broadstreet would"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "of the hundreds of talks I've had with"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "him uh on email he would he would tell"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "me John once we settled him down he was"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "actually a chatterbox. was actually"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "very, you know, very um uh cordial and"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "very and when Okay. Okay. You know, in"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Chicago we call them, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "cockadones. That's Italian for, you"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "know, chatter boxes. But he said uh just"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "uh uh very scientific and um and I guess"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "I should say this part now even though"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "it's a kind of a it's like a it's a"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "surprise but he slipped about six months"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "ago the director and he said yeah when"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "he"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": ">> um when he put on the wig cuz he wore"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "like a wiggy toupe on top of his thing"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "and you'll see Victor's hair come down"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "over his forehead like this and there's"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "a wig on top of it. Jeff Broadreet says"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "he had to tuck in his ponytail and I"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "froze going back to what because we're"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "we're thinking this guy is a scientist"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "to some degree inside these programs. I"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "immediately boom think of Eric Davis who"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "said that these scientists in the"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "program again what what did we just talk"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "about two people making comments who"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "don't know each other from 10 20 years"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "eras apart and they say the same thing"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "that Eric Davis said these scientists in"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "these programs weren't IBM types Eric"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "Davis said quote they wore sandals"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "sometimes no shoes ponytails and they"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "walked around humming Pink Floyd music"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "and I went this direct Jeff Broadre just"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "kind of gave me a nugget here. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "He's backing up what what Eric Eric Dr."}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Davis said about these insiders and that"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "really just like stiffened my back like"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "okay we might be on to something here."}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "I'm still again trying to find the"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "truth. I' been trying to prove I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "talking to your viewers that this was a"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "hoax. I went at this as this was a hoax"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "and I beg your viewers to please"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "understand that. So they put the tape"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "out. It gets a lackluster um response."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> I just realized that it came on the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "heels of the John Benet murder ra murder"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "investigation and all of that hoopla. So"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "it was and people call this the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "forgotten documentary because not a lot"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "of people really truly remember it"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "coming out. It came out on the UPN"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "network. I thought for it was Fox. It"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "was the UPN network talking about the"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "money. I talk about the money with this"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "investigation. Follow the money. I come"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "to find out in my investigation was put"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "up by Richer Entertainment on the UPN"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "network, a startup network on a program"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "called Strange Universe. And they used"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "this as a one-hour special on this"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Strange Universe. It was like a weekly"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "episodic conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "conspiracy show. I research and find out"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "that everyone's got short short pockets."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "There isn't a lot of money. I've heard"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "uh um uh stories uh uh anecdotal that"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "people weren't getting paid by Richer"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Entertainment. Um so my point is this a"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "very elaborate animatronic alien by"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "anyone."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> Sure. Okay. I see."}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> In 96 short money Victor's got to get"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "paid."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": ">> Yeah. He's not getting he's not getting"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "millions of dollars for this. No. all"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "the all the production company and"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Rocket Pictures"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "got short dough. Even Jeff Broadreet"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "said I don't think"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": ">> Tom Coleman got a whole lot of money for"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "this. So my point is"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": ">> doesn't make sense. Was there enough"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "money to produce and and people hate"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "when I say this, an animatronic bean"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "that we think would have to have had"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "about five operators with remote control"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "cables, dragon skin, rubber skin? Um,"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "would there be enough money to create"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "this? People were telling me it could be"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "done in somebody's garage between 10 and"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "there are some people saying a retail"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "animatronic shop would have charged"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "$80,000. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": ">> Was there $80,000 back then? If I what I"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "just described, people aren't getting"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "paid. It's a short bunch. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "I'm just putting it out there that there"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "is a money aspect here. I'm not running"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "away from the money. I'm telling you"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "there is."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> That's a good point."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": ">> There is a money. Follow the money here."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "And I the number one rule of journalism"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "and I did that and I'm saying to myself,"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "I've had FX people come to the side and"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "said, \"Do you know how much money?\""}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": ">> Yeah. even at the low even at the low"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "end uh because I I'm not going to assume"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "it was animatronic cuz um you know at"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "the low end it would have been"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "manipulated by multiple people you"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "muppet style um you know even even then"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "it seems like the experts in puppetry"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "acknowledge that it was skillfully done"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "right that like they now the experts in"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "puppetry don't believe for a second this"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "an alien But again,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> that's not true."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": ">> Well, the ones in the in the movie,"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> correct?"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> Um, in the documentary 97, those two"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "gentlemen, they they don't believe it,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "but it's also potentially, as Victor"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "does point out eventually, in their best"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "interest to say that I can make it"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "better."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": ">> And the one and the one animatronic"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "person said, now think about this. I'm a"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "I'm a retired car dealer. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": ">> If I tell you, \"Well, I I know that's a"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "Toyota Corolla, but there's something"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "about it that I don't understand that I"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "can't say it's a Toyota Corolla.\" You'd"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "be like, \"What are you?\" And are you"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": ">> Are you"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": ">> Because there was that. They were"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "confused. Well,"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> special effects person said, \"It does"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "one move.\" And this is a top Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "special effects person says on camera,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "\"But it does one move. I can't figure"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "out how they did it.\" Chrisell thought"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "the alien exhibited movements that would"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "be difficult to fake."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": ">> There are there are moments when"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "it it this looks very real and and I"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "don't know how they did certain little"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "things about this. Um so right right"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "when I would say that it's definitely a"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "puppet. he he moves a certain way or"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "he'll or he'll lift up in the frame and"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "all that and all these little things are"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "important to the you know"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "to the character of him. This"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "animatronic alien does a this. It's"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "moving this way while it's turning its"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "head this way. It's coughing. There"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "can't be a ha hand inside the mouth"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "because the chin is only three fingers"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "wide. you could not fit. And um we've"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "showed part of it where there is really"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "no one in the back of the head from what"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "we can see. I'm just speculating here."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "So it would have to be a fivep person"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "animatronic. We show the mouth going"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": ">> open like that which is which is which"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "is alarming to me."}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": ">> I'm just simply stating this. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "trying to the money for that high tech"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> obviously high-tech alien. I I just"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "don't see where it came from. That's all"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": ">> it. It's it's the one argument that can"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "be made. You know, obviously we're"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "ruling out CGI, so the only argument"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "left is puppeteering. That is the only"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "argument left. And if you look at it, it"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "does seem like either a incredibly"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "skillful"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "uh puppeteering act or animatronics like"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "these at the low end. uh a renowned"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "puppeteer uh behind and plus uh even"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "making it like you said in a way that"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "you could manipulate it might in itself"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "be a feat to behold. And so and he's"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "never come forward"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:30", "text": ">> and and exactly and and you know what"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "that's like much like the um the idea of"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "you know the and we'll get into this"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "maybe a little bit later but the skinny"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "Bob video that keeps cropping up as"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "well. Um, a lot of people say the same"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "thing about that is like there's no set"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "photos, there's no costume leaks,"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "there's no mold anywhere like like mold"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "of a cast of of any of the costumes. And"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "and so to me I always think you know"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "even if you look at um what was it X"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "Files one of the movies I think it was"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "or where there was this lab of bodies"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "that they had you know and eventually"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "uh set photos would surface and then"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "people would share them as if they were"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "real and then they debunk them because"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "they no it's from the set of exiles."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:13", "text": ">> Exactly. But just to just say that like"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "when you're on these sets and they're"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "quite elaborate, you know, you can go"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "from anywhere from like 10 to 50 people"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "at a time being a part of that. And"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "that's a lot to contain for such a, you"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "know, for somebody just trying to get a"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "small check."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": ">> Um, 30 years."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> The puppeteer."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:32", "text": ">> Yeah. No debunks."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> Craft catering. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> The accountant, the wardrobe. I drove"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "the people to the studio, the people at"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "the studio or the sound stage, the"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "person that made that bizarre monitor,"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "which I think is the bombshell."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:46", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": ">> the heart the heart monitor."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> No one in Hollywood, including the"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "animatronic person, has come forward at"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "a pool party to try and make it with"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "some girl to be like,"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": ">> I made that be I that has never happened"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "with any any hoax that if if there is,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "I'm I'm wrong."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "It's a little ludicrous to think that it"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "was done for money. I think I think that"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "argument we can probably rule out. As"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "you said, it's it doesn't really add up."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": ">> I'm so glad I'm here."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": ">> But the argument that You're welcome."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "But the argument that still does hold up"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "for a lot of people is SCOP, right? That"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "is for that is the biggest argument to"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "be made about this case. So why would"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "someone want to create a SCO up? Well,"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "if you look at the day or the date that"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "this video came out, it was a few short"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "months after the Virginia crash that"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "happened in Virginia, Brazil, where the"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "American military air force showed up in"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "Brazil to haul off um, you know, a bunch"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "of aliens and retrieve a downed craft."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "You know, what better way to sort of,"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "you know, misdirect the audience is to"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "leak an alleged interaction with a being"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "and and have people sort of question."}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "I'm not saying that that's the case. Uh"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "I'm not saying that it's real, that it's"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "not real, that it's a scop. I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "for me, the only valid argument"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "other than it being real is some insane"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "scop. And that to me is just as valuable"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "in this context because what are you"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "covering up? You know what I mean? Like"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "why would you spend so much money in"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "SCOPing people into thinking aliens are"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "real? What are you what what are you"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "actually hiding that's worse than"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "aliens?"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "And so yeah, that's that's just the only"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "point I wanted to make there."}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": ">> Thank you for answer bringing up the the"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "conclusion of my No, I I I completely"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "agree that um and I hope people"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "appreciate this that after all of this"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "money and all of this time, I I can"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "conclusively say that this was filmed by"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "the government whether it was a scop or"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "whether it was an actual extr"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "extraterrestrial. I have had two"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "insiders and we will get to this who"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "tell me you know don't one of them is"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Steven Greer don't be disappointed when"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "when you find out it was a recreation of"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "an actual event a scop um you you well"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "first of all you're not going to hurt my"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "feelings because I don't care I I want"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "to know the truth"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> and I am telling you because the coding"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "on the bottom the DNI department of"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "naval intelligence which"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": ">> so proud of my me and my team for"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "proving Bob Lazar's story on that angle"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "that the in the the number 27 that there"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "is uh that I am 99% positive that it was"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "filmed by the United States government"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "if you want me to shock everyone and and"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "and 25% now that it could be it could"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "have been done for a sign up of a yeah"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "we couldn't show you a real alien but we"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "created this and we did try and have"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "disclosure right"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:51", "text": ">> what do you mean you want to put me in"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "Levvenworth for 30 years. I I did"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "approve that that video release. I I"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "tried to show you,"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": ">> but I don't I didn't have the security"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "clearance from the president to show you"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "a real alien. We are we are definitely"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "um under the the the distinct"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "possibility that that is a possibility."}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:15", "text": ">> Is do you think that if it was a SCOP"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "that Victor was kept in the dark?"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "Because for it to be a successful scop,"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "Victor getting caught lying would have"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "been a big oversight. Um, they would"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "have had to kept him in the dark. So, he"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "by all means thinks that it is a real"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "alien and was being told so."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> Good great question. We were we have"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "been told"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> like a planned leak."}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": ">> Of course, we we have been told that"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "that Victor was chosen to do this if it"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "was a if it was a scotia. I only had two"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "people telling me it was a scot, not"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "Greer and this other person that said,"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "\"Don't be disappointed.\" I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "actual people."}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:51", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": ">> That Victor was a disenfranchised"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "employee. What's funny about the Bob"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "Lazar story"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "is that I have basically threaded thread"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "put together this mosaic of S4 and this"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "draconian"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "um oppressive regime down there that"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "really turned a lot of people this cabal"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "into getting somehow information out"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "from S4 to the public. And when you talk"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "about the dracon the draconian security"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "measures that Bob Lazar talks about, we"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "have we have multiple people telling us"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "that that has that is something that is"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "that turned people off to to um to want"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "to to leak information. And we have two"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "people telling us that Victor was"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "disenfranchised"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> and that someone from Majestic 12 as"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "part of a public acclamation program."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "I'm just telling you what I was told on"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> that"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "it was allowed to happen. Wink wink. I"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "don't believe that. I I don't think any"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "I don't think intelligence"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": ">> lets you I I don't think intelligence"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "does this. And you know, go ahead and"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "take it. You know, I I've got a great"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "I've got a great um quotation. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "I'm so glad I I I in classified programs"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "when you have security lapses, it's at"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "the end of this the the classified"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "program, offices relocate, access lists"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "are updated, personnel shifts and"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "oversight changes. Victor said this was"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "there was a drop in security,"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> to go from analog to digital and that's"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "when he was allowed to copy this"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "footage. So, just to catch people up, um"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "the tape itself, the reason why he was"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "allowed, because this is a big piece of"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "information here that people were like,"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "why would they just allow him to take a"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "VHS of an alien and sneak it out?"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": ">> It wasn't a VHS tape, but go ahead."}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": ">> Sorry, my bad. What kind of tape was it?"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> Well, that's that's the other thing with"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "goes to the government filming. We we"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "have experts,"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": ">> one of them from National Geographic"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "that said definite original 16"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "millimeter. The only people"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": ">> it was 16 mm."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": ">> Only people filming on 16 millimeter in"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "1991 or even 96 would have been the"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "government. It was very hard, very"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "cumbersome. We can't find any um"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "producers that would film on 16 mm,"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": ">> Um so and and but we did find out and"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "the government wasn't digitized yet,"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": ">> right? You see the old Roswell cameraman"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "with the two reels that was still being"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "used when when uh Victor said this was"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "filmed in '91 which we we have also been"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "told with the with the leaked statement"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "that I will talk about that April 22nd"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "of 1991 and in '91 yes they were using"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "VHS tape in beta max um they were also"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "the audiovisisual department for many"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "government programs was still using 16"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "mm"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": ">> and so Then during the transfer of tape"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "to digital, which you know, most media"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "companies had to deal with, well, every"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "media company that had to stay afloat,"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "basically everybody that had anything on"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "tape had to eventually digitize it. And"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "it was a it's a laborious process. I've"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "done it myself. I've got real canisters"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "down here that I've had digitized. It's"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "expensive. It's tough."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:16", "text": ">> Uh it's not perfect even today. And so"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "during that time, yeah, you could see"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "because imagine smuggling something out"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "it would have been just the highest"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "security ever. So it would have had to"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "have happened during a time where there"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "was potential confusion. Uh perhaps like"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "a government shutdown or like any"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "anything in in this pocket would have"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "been like the perfect storm to get one"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "of these things out."}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it was actually um again,"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "we'll get to the the main leaker. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": ">> Who I called the chairman the letter"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "that he wrote, the email that he wrote"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "me,"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:54", "text": ">> but this was let out of S4. And that's"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "when I went cuz I knew you couldn't get"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "anything out of these unauthorized"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "special access program. You're weighed"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "in the nude. You're when you come, you"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "wait in the nude when you leave. Fact."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": ">> Nobody's sneaking out a DVD between"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "their butt cheeks. I'm sorry. And and"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "Victor alludes to that also."}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> Um and I'm not jumping forward in the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "story, but when I"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "talk about the email that I got of the"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "whole provenence of this tape was the"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "Area 51 cameraman was escorted back to"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "the Groom Lake photo lab. He made two"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "copies of this 16 mm film, snipped three"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "minutes of it, put it in a burn bag in a"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "GSA approved vault, and that burn bag"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "was snuck off of the Nellis test and"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "training range. That's how so Victor um"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "did he obuscate and lie a little bit"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "that he was the active agent? I think he"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "was protect protecting that cameraman"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": ">> or protecting his own identity."}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": ">> Could he be the cameraman? Now we the"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "the name we've got of Victor. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "jumping forward. We have him on the log."}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "The same log that I saw Bob Lazar's name"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "which has Victor working for EG&G."}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "Um uh which which did"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:07", "text": ">> which built Area 51,"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": ">> right? which did everything. You know"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "what else they did for the government?"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:12", "text": ">> Highly top secret audiovisisual"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "documentation."}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:15", "text": ">> Yeah, makes sense."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> So, we are very convinced that Victor"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "was a mid to lowlevel audiovisisual."}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "Maybe even the manager or the director,"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> right? He had access"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": ">> he had access to films, but he also said"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "that he saw the being."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": ">> Correct. Well, if you're if you're part"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "of the filming or managing the filming,"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "you're going to be have to be read into"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "this program and you're going to"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "actually have to have some contact with"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "the bee or be in the room"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": ">> when it's being filmed to make sure"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": ">> cuz otherwise why would a guy with a"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "ponytail,"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:47", "text": ">> you know, just be hanging around this"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "highly sensitive area, right? You know,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "you would have to be some type of"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "expert. And the fact that you have the"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "film and you say that you saw this being"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "I mean put two and two together. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "you're probably"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": ">> right. And Victor Victor talks about"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "philosophy, the end of the world. I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "not jumping ahead here. Uh this I I want"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "to make this great point about um uh him"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "being probably the director, manager,"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "mid-level audiovisisual person for EG&G."}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "Um he talks about esquetology, the end"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "of the the study of the end of the world"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "and religion and especially what comes"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "back in 08 Mayan calendars"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:30", "text": ">> just a just a pretty interesting story."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "U we probably believe he had some PhD in"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "in in uh in film. Um, and we find out"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "that people that get their doctorate or"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "their masters in film also, most of"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "them, a lot of them, those people also"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "have a a double major or a follow-up"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "major in philosophy. I didn't make this"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "up. I read this on the internet. So, I"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "just find I just, you know, and he"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "because he seemed a little"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:55", "text": ">> philosophical,"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": ">> a little too philosophical for a guy"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "that was a cameraman at at the NBC"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "station. And then I just when I read"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "that on Google, it was just again one of"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "those things I'm like, \"Wow, is this"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "really coming together?\""}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> I would uh I would I would give you"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "that, but I would also push back a"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "little bit in thinking that uh when he"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "did mention that, he also mentioned that"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "he was nearing the end of his life due"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "to potentially an illness,"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:16", "text": ">> right? And the director said he didn't"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "believe that,"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": ">> right? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": ">> which was a counterintelligence"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "operation of I'm dying."}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": ">> Sure. But that's also don't look for me,"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "you know, but that also would be when"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "you get more philosophical."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> Totally. Totally. So yeah, so that"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "that's um so that that's the story of"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "how Victor went went to went to Rocket"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Pictures. He they they go on they go on"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "ArtBell to promote the the the uh the"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "DVD because the the the viewership was"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "not up to par. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": ">> Um on the UPN network"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> and this actor, remember everyone's, oh,"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "there's got to be an actor. this hired"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "actor are is arguing for a minute and a"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "half that he was given the wrong phone"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "number and you're an actor and you're"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "and you're upset about a wrong phone"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "number you can't get through and this"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "what we have found out about Victor this"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "pendactic personality pendactic this"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "precision mentality it's this way it's"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "the rules it's the regulation it's spec"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "specivity"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "um that really shown through. I I just"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "don't think an actor would argue for in"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "a minute and a half with Art Bell about"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "the number being wrong. And I found that"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "I found that stupifying. We ran and I'm"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "not getting ahead of myself, but"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": ">> we we hired two people from the Reed"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "School of Lie Deception in Chicago. Two"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "police officers. And we also gave this"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "to a retired FBI agent to watch Victor"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "to his for his verbiage."}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> Can't really his body language. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "Yeah, but we can we can maybe analyze"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "his verbiage. In the Reed School of Lie"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "Detection, we got two people that two"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "police officers that graduated to look"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "at Victor and a retired FBI agent who's"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "a private investigator. Please don't"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "look up in Chicago a retired FBI agent,"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "a private investigator in and stalk him."}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "I'm just saying the FBI agent went,"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "\"Stop. Do you think this guy's an"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "actor?\" You know, when Victor's talking"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "about the primitive conceptual"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "framework, Yeah. It's a talking from an"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "alien to talk to a human being about the"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "the dynamics of space travel and yeah"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "and and is is would be like putting"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "calculus in the greets and scrunches of"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "a chimpanzee and and the FBI the former"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "FBI agent he goes I I don't know who"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "this guy is but this"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> stop you're wasting the the police"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "officers"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": ">> um said the same thing and the one of"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "them came in with that word pedactic"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "personality. So, I'm reading all about I"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "have a degree in counseling psychology"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "and I'm reading about that type of"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "personality trait. Do you know what I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "reading over and over again what the"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "majority of of occupations that have"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "that trait? Scientist, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "don't do a a a dash of this and a p a"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "pinch of thallium and and element and"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "you just throw in a little bit of it's"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> not very he's not he's not socially um"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:11", "text": ">> he's not he's not a"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": ">> he's not John Stewart. It's the"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "generalizer. Sure. No, he's Yeah, you"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "can tell. You can tell. And And what was"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "interesting about the Art Bell interview"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "and I would, you know, fascinating."}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "Yeah. I would encourage everybody to"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "first of all, you know, go check out the"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "original documentary. Um, but then also"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "follow up. It's a great followup. Yes."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:31", "text": ">> Uh, with the Art Bell and Art Bell"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "obviously the predecessor of all of"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "this, you know, he is he is the guy. Um,"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "and even Artbell, you know, admits that"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "it took 20, 30 minutes for him to"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "warm up to Victor because at first he's"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "like, I'm not really buying anything."}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "This guy's very cold, reserved, shut"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "down, being kind of rude. And then after"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "30 minutes when I guess Victor felt"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "comfortable with our because he's Art"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "Bell had a wonderful way of making you"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "feel comfortable, you know, his his"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "voice was so soothing and understanding"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": ">> and his ego."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. and just kind of"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "like allowed him to get comfortable. He"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "started opening up and then and then"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "Artbell to his credit was like, you"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "know, I I believe him."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": ">> Art Bell believed him. You know, that's"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "a for me as far as anecdotal evidence"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "goes, that's a big one for me because I"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "I think, you know, um he spoke to a lot"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "of people and you can you can just"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "really put your it raised my conviction"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "level that this man was at least"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "believing that he was telling the truth."}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "And and I I say that because, you know,"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "maybe he was fed something that he"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "doesn't know not to be true. And yeah,"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "that interview was really revealing, but"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "also like you said, he was quite upset"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "about the small sort of almost"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "uh just things that didn't matter. And"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "you're like, why is he so upset about"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": ">> I'm so glad I'm sitting with you. I I"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "mean that sincerely. Does an actor go on"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "ArtBell and answer and I know this for a"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "fact. Answer an hour and a half of"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "unrehearsed Sure."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": ">> questions. And the one of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "things he's pissed off about is yes,"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "we're not telling the public about ex"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "the extraterrestrial phenomenon, but one"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "of the things that really pissed him off"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "was um people that worked down in S4 had"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "little personal momentos and trinkets on"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "their desk and they were told not to."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:23", "text": ">> Does an actor even think of that?"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:26", "text": ">> Yeah. He talks about Shawn David"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "Morton's newsletter and he's correcting"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "things in it. An actor from CIA or"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "central casting is reading Shawn David"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "Morton's deli."}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:36", "text": ">> I don't believe it's an actor. I don't"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "think"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": ">> I don't think very many people I don't"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "think very many people believe it's an"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "actor. Th those who do obviously haven't"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "done their due diligence, but I I think"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> Thank you, Chris. I think that, you"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "know, the potentiality for this being a"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "legitimate person close to the program"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "given some passage material, he believes"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "it to be true. I think that potential is"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "still there. Um, you know, so like I"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "said, like you said, I think this does"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "have something to do with the"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "government. Either it's true or the the"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "opposite side of the spectrum to me is"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "just as fascinating. Why would you want"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "this to be out there? Are you preparing"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "people? Are you are you simply"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "misdirecting people? Like what is the"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "reason there? And that that to me is"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "equally as maybe not equally as"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "interesting. Obviously a real alien is"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "much more interesting, but it"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> it bothers me more because you're taking"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "my tax dollars and making a hoax video"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": ">> to deceive me. Even if you think you're"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "preparing me, you're making taking my"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "tax dollars. I worked my butt off my"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "entire life and you're taking my money"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "and creating a hoaxed video. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "deceiving people. I I I I understand you"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "want to prepare us, but you're deceiving"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "people right there. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "that to me. Yeah. I don't know what that"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "is. It is bizarre. It is bizarre."}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:53", "text": ">> There's aliens. We all know there's"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "aliens. Come on. But you We've got"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "people hiring special effects people to"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "create a really good animatronic alien"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "to deceive us. That to me is creepier"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "and is more bothersome some than some"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "alien in a random underground facility"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "being filmed."}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh both both are bizarre, that's"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "for sure. Okay, so the story the story"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "gets out doesn't get traction. He goes"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "on Art Bell,"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:17", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": ">> Kind of still angry that people haven't"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": ">> caught on to this. So he goes back to,"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "you know, the producers who first"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "documented this and really goes off on"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "him. He wears a mask in this interview"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "and he's kind of like just, you can"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "tell, really pissed off and breathing"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "heavily in that mask and there's this"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "fly buzzing around him. You just see his"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "his annoyance come through, you know,"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "and he's just annoyed that there's two"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "people here and stuff"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:44", "text": ">> that he's wearing a rubber mask. That"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "he's wearing a mask."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> How much credibility do I have when I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "wearing a rubber mask?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": ">> Exactly. And he's just kind of fed up"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "because and and he really kind of goes"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "off on eufologists"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "and grifters and, you know, and and"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "that's not something normally a grifter"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "would do. You know, you you don't see"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "somebody who's out there. Let's see"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "somebody who's out there and um just"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "screaming at people for for not doing"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "the work they're supposed to be. Do they"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "call themselves researchers? I gave them"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "everything. They're not doing anything."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "Like to me that really raised again my"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "conviction level that think he believes"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "what he's saying."}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:26", "text": ">> It's been 11 years since I brought out"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "that tape. What followup has there been?"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "Who among these socalled eupfologists,"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "these self-proclaimed"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "investigators, show me one of them"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "that's demanded information about S4"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "under the Freedom of Information Act."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "Show me one of them that has seriously"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "attempted"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "to confirm or deny the existence of the"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "Alien Interview Program."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "All they care about is talking among"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "themselves and making videotapes, making"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "documentaries, promoting themselves."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": ">> Well, you and I hoax something. Do we go"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "back seven years later and cajol people"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "to prove it it's a hoax? That that never"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "rang true to me. I I just find I just"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "find that impossible that a that a"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "hoaxer would come back and conel and and"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "um be combative with with with people."}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "Um, again, he's mad at people. He's mad"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "at the UFO community, even the ones that"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "take it that say it's real, cuz he says,"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "\"You're taking it for face value.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:31", "text": ">> That pendactic personality. Research why"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "you think it's real."}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:34", "text": ">> Absolutely blew my mind."}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:36", "text": ">> Yeah, definitely. There were people in"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "that documentary who who took it at face"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "value that it was real. And he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "like, \"You just got lucky.\""}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:41", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:42", "text": ">> That's what he said. He's like, \"You got"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "lucky that it was real and that you"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "reacted that way.\" He's like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "didn't do any research.\" And if it's so"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "easy to make that alien puppet, to all"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "the special effects people, make one. Go"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "in your garage and make one."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": ">> So to this day, anyways, this video to"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "me and to everyone else on the internet,"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "you know, I've I've shared a lot of"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "videos and a lot of things. So of you."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "And it's it's one of those videos that"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "when you when you read comments from"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "balanced individuals, it seems to it"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "seems to surface a lot more um"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "conviction of it being true than many of"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "the other videos, save perhaps Skinny"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "Bob. Skinny Bob's another big contention"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "for a lot of people. And I'm still kind"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "of on the fence. I'm like I guess my I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "I'm around my my conviction level"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "dropped for Skinny Bob quite a bit. Um"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "it being authentic an authentic alien."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "Um again not completely out of the realm"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "of it being a scop. Um but it did drop a"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "little bit. Um but I'm roughly 50/50 on"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "that one as well. This one I'm a little"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "higher conviction um because of the"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "nature of the video being like one shot."}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "What part of this video for you raises"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "your conviction level on this being"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "true? And what's one part that lowers"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "it? And I'll I'll start with mine."}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": ">> Great question."}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:03", "text": ">> So, the one that raises it for me is"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "obviously"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "the uh the movements of this being and"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "then perhaps some of the stuff in the"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "foreground that we're seeing. the the"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "things that lower my conviction for this"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "specific video is a the lighting. But"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "again, that can be,"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": ">> you know, that can tell people that's"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "not the way Victor brought that film."}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:24", "text": ">> It was lighter."}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:25", "text": ">> It was bluish."}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:27", "text": ">> Yeah, it was bluish."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": ">> Bluish. And no one, why is it so dark?"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "That's a puppet cuz it's the room's"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "dark. That's not the way Victor brought"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "that video. They did that for theatrical"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "dramatic effect because it looks so much"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "better than the blue"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": ">> uh closed circuit television style"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "Victor. Victor brought a blue hue and"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "and you can find this on the on the"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "internet. You can see the alien's"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "thorax, his arms, um not his hands. Uh"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "yeah, that is not the way Victor brought"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "that in."}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:54", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Point point taken."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:57", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:01", "text": ">> Um but the other thing was the doctor"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "behind him. And this for me uh as just a"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "body language observer. There were two"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "doctors that stepped in. One of them uh"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "had a flashlight and you know was"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "looking in the mouth, looking in the"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "eyes perhaps to see you know dilation or"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "whatever it was. Hemorrhaging. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "Hemorrhaging even in the nostrils if"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "there was hemorrhaging if he was choking"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "and they were wiping um the mouth you"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "know there was stuff coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "mouth they were wiping this. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "that's all very compelling. The other"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "gentleman"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:29", "text": ">> Wilfford Web Web Wilson"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> who's this?"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:34", "text": ">> How does John Stewart know?"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> Okay. But the other gentleman who"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> died in Watsonville, California, 2014,"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "talked to"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:38", "text": ">> How do you know this? You talked to his"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "wife."}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:41", "text": ">> I got I got the whole story to tell you."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:42", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> No, come on. Let's go. But I'm saying,"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> so what about him? You didn't"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:46", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": ">> he touches the bean weird."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": ">> He's not really doing anything. And it"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "seems like he's doing exactly what I"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "would do if I were playing to the"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "camera. And that's that's what I read."}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "I'm like, this guy's like he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "like doesn't know what to do with his"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "hands. Kind of like pretending to be a"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "doctor. If I look at it through that"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "lens, that's how I see it. Now, I also"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "don't know how I would react if I had to"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "fix a choking alien. I don't know that I"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "wouldn't also act exactly like he did,"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "right? But"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:15", "text": ">> am I going to touch something that's"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "going to hurt the alien? Are you ginger"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "with it? Um,"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:19", "text": ">> are there people with guns looking at me"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "right now? Like, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": ">> Dan Bur says how frail the in the the"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "beans were. Victor tells us that this is"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "this is bean was at the end of its"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "interview cycle. Um, so it was it was"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "obviously going to be retired."}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "Obviously, you could tell the the bean"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "was slightly infirmed, especially with"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "the the respiratory respiratory illness"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "that he that he had. And I agree with"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": ">> Yeah. So, that uh for me that was that"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "was I think the biggest contention is"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "just body language of this uh second"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "doctor."}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:52", "text": ">> Uh other than that, I really can't um"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "find much to to really go on, but what"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "about you? What are what's one thing"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "that raised your conviction level"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "looking at this video? What's one thing"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "that lowered it?"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": ">> That it it is such a casually shot"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "video."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": ">> You know, somebody made a great a great"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "statement to me. Um uh"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "it that when you're a the government and"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "you're filming uh you're filming"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "something, you're there to document"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "something. You're not there to make, you"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "know, uh uh Miley Cyrus look in the"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "perfect lighting. That's not your job"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "for as part of the government"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "audiovisisual docu documentation which I"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "think is a great point."}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:34", "text": ">> The fact that there is a red stool that"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "you could buy at Kmart in Las Vegas in"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "the '9s sitting off to the side in front"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "of the table. Nobody nobody realizes"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "this. A stool. You've just left a stool"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "there in this hoax video. The hoaxed"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "video. You spend obviously spending a"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "lot of money to to to hoax it as the"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "Hollywood producer. You don't have the"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "medics in pressurized suits cuz you know"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "wouldn't you put them in pressure? They"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "come in in short sleeve scrubs."}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "Obviously knowing that maybe the bean's"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "not a contaminant to humans."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:06", "text": ">> You have a monitor that still to this"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "day no one knows what it is and that I"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "could talk about the monitor for for"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:11", "text": ">> the erratic heartbeat."}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": ">> Yeah, we're going to get we're going to"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "get into that."}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:17", "text": ">> All of this this you have two military"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "people in the foreshadow."}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "Nobody even realizes these two men were"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "there until until Victor talks about it."}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "Until a guy in England who were enemies"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "named Andrew Burlington shows the patch"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "the patch on this army officer the"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "combat patch is like a dragon a horse a"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "wing that I have gone through 3,000"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "military patches. So this this this"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "producer has now created its own"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "military patch that no one can see. you"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "emlazing DNI on the bottom of the film,"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "a abbreviation of a Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "Intelligence that no one can look up in"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "96 when it came out. We can't look it up"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "now. You can't look up that agency even"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "though I've proven that it exists. Why"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "would you do that? Course."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": ">> So, how did you prove it existed?"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:09", "text": ">> Well, I mean, if you want to jump"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "around, that's that's okay."}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": ">> For me, I'm the DNI. Okay. I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "at, you know, I'm looking obviously the"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "only uh the only"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> semblance of this is is the Department"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "of Naval Intelligence, which was on, you"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "know, Bob's payubs. Okay."}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> And a lot of people said, \"No, it's not"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "even a a department or whatever.\" And"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "then then I had John Ramirez sit here"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "and he said, you know, sometimes it's a"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "flash ID,"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": ">> so it looks like an official department,"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "but it allows them to sort of go"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "undercover into these darker programs."}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> So proud of this. Prove Bob Lazar's"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "story of the DNI at least."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:47", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. DNI. Okay. Number one,"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "he is an author. He is a school teacher,"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "family of six. He's a got a degree in"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "invertebrae"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "um uh anthropology, you know, real"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "dummy. And a Navy aviator. And he's an"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "author. And we are talking about another"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "subject matter."}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:05", "text": ">> And I went, \"Wait a minute. Uh Michael,"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "um this is text. Still have the text."}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "What is the DNI?\" I want to be clear,"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "Michael. Not the Office of Naval"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "Intelligence, the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "Intelligence. Is it real? Yep. I'm like"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "again, the depart. He goes, I know"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "exactly what you you're talking about."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "I'm like, why can't I find it? He said,"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "it's an agency buried inside the"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "Department of Navy. You're never going"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "to find it. I'm like, holy [ __ ] to call"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "BOB LAZARD. BOB, I I'M I'M proving this."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "A Navy aviator. Can you tell me how you"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "know this? Before I went to Nate, he's"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "typing this to me. Before I went to"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "Naval Aviator School in Pensacola,"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Florida, two agents of the DI DNI"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "approached me to be an agent with them"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "and I declined. I wanted to fly planes"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "for the Navy. It's a naval aviator"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "telling us the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "Intelligence, not office department, is"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "real. It's buried as an agency in the"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "Department of Navy. And he writes, got"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "this on text. They're the spooks for the"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "for the Navy. It's like their CIA arm"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "for their Navy."}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:11", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:14", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": ">> The One thing I will ask of you"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:18", "text": ">> when I leave, can you please tell"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "everyone how much I credit the internet"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "for helping me,"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "Inspector Cluso, through this six years."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "If it wasn't for the internet, my"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "co-pilot, I would be nowhere with this."}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Fine."}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> Okay. That's all I ask. The the internet"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "angels have been awesome. Mr. Stewart,"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "hi. My name is um Sean. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "he wants me to say his last name. First"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "name is Sean. S E an. He goes, I have a"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "Canadian"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "security conference brochure of the the"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "listing of events."}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "And on it is a Colonel Carl Prinsow"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "of the Department of Naval Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": ">> Sends it to me. I have it was in my"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "documentary. I I I'm like"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": ">> I've emailed this guy five times. He"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "will not return my email. Don't tell him"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "what it is. So on a on a conference"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "brochure, we have US Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "Intelligence. His name is Carl Prinslaw."}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "And I mention names. I mention"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "facilities. I mention I will give you"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "codes. I don't gatekeep anything and I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "proud of that. And what what what I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "would like to do with this conversation"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "is to tell you people to tell you names"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "of facilities to let you know that this"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "is all this is all real. So that's two"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "things with the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:41", "text": ">> What was his name again? I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "write this down. I need to"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:44", "text": ">> Carl."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:50", "text": ">> Prince P R I N Z L O V. I've got the I"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "can send you the"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": ">> Okay. I can send you the Canadian"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "brochure. I've got all 22 pages of this"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "conference. You know, it's like you get"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "a little brochure of today we'll be"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "having dinner. After dinner,"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:02", "text": ">> you know, Chris Ramsey from the DoD will"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "speak."}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:06", "text": ">> Shocking."}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:10", "text": ">> This is going to sound like I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "tell a joke at a bar, but it's not."}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "A direct director level former CIA"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "uh what would you call them? member"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "personnel"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:25", "text": ">> owns a micro brewery with his wife who"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "was in linguistics for the CIA."}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:30", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:33", "text": ">> My cousins take me after deer hunting"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:36", "text": ">> and um they're like ah my my cousin's"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "into aliens and John this is I don't"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "want to say his name"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": ">> and he told me what he did for the CIA."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "This is like director level, not a"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "director s, but he is"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> on the food top of the food chain. And"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "we're sitting, we're talking and I know"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "I catching him off guard. I said, \"Can I"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "ask you one quick question?\" I'll never"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "forget. He was sitting like this"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:57", "text": ">> and he said, \"Yeah.\" Um, and he was"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "looking away from the bar. He was on a"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "bar stool. Bar was jammed. I said, \"Is"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "real?\" I want to be clear, not the"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "office. The Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "Intelligence, Chris, he went like this."}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's it's a it's a"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "real it's a real thing. And he caught"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "himself. He gets up. He goes, \"I'll be"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "right back.\" He goes into his back"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "office and my cousins and I are looking"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "at each other. They don't know what DNI"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "means. But he's I'm waiting and I'm"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "waiting. I'm like, \"Is this guy dropping"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "a dime on me? Is he, you know, is he"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "going to himself, why did I JUST DO"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "THAT? WHY did It was very, very, very"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "bizarre.\""}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:36", "text": ">> I talked to his wife and we'll get into"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "my emails being stolen. She tells me"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "that she thinks it's the NSA. I don't"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "believe in aliens. You're crazy. So on"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "and so forth. And we are getting into"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "almost like a a shouting match with each"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "other."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "And I said, um, do did do you know, is"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "the Department of Naval Intelligence a"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "real a real thing? She's like, \"Yeah, it"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "is. It absolutely is.\" And I'm just"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "like, \"Well, I've got two CIA people"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "that told me this. I've got a naval a"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "naval aviator and now I've got somebody"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "uh Carl Prinsow uh live prince whatever"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "his name was uh that he's on a"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "conference brochure with the department"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "of naval intelligence and I and and"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "again um I I have proven I think without"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "beyond of a shadow of a doubt that the"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "department of naval intelligence is"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "real. Bob Lazar said it was the the"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "company that hired him. I found out that"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "it's one of the three-letter agencies"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "that runs a program under the umbrella."}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "I found out that they were there asking"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "their set of questions that there was"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "literally a conga line of threeletter"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "agency people waiting to go into that"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "interview suite to ask that being"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "questions. Now whether it was that"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "interview whether that's the way it"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "happens with all of the interviews"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "because we you and I believe there's a"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "percentage that that could be a scop but"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "during these interviews there are"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "agencies waiting outside the in the"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "hallway to waiting to insert their"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "questions to this being often times"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:12", "text": ">> well that's also lines up with um"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "was it Carl Wolf"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "um there was a deathbed confession years"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "ago go."}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": ">> Carl Wolf, do you know is it Carl Wolf?"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "I believe it was. And uh this gentleman"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "said that he was he went to church uh"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "was a very niche church. I think it was"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "the uh Church of World of God or Church"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "of the World or something. It was like"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "some almost like a sect to like some"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "small church. And the person he went to"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "church with worked at Area 51 S4."}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:49", "text": ">> I'm listening. And the the guy he so the"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "guy on his deathbed he was all you know"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "he had TSI um he had pretty deep"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "clearances cuz I think what he did was"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "like I just paperwork something you know"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "very classified but mainly paperwork and"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "he's like he calls him up one day he's"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "like hey and he's telling this to Danny"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "she on his sort of deathbed he didn't"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "even tell his wife this is him in his"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "he's hooked up to tubes and everything"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "and he's and he's telling Danny she this"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> and He said that I was invited to go to"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "Area 51. He's like, \"I don't know.\" You"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "know, the guy wanted to show me some"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "stuff around there. He had clearances"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "already, so it was all good. And he"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "takes him and then they go to S4 and"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "they take an elevator. Uh they go down"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "and get to a place, they start walking"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "and he sees a bunch of underground"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "hangers with crafts levitating off the"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "ground. And then they they go into this"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "room where there's a you know, one-sided"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "mirror and there's a being sitting"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "there. And he said, \"Do you want to ask"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "it anything?\" And he goes, \"No.\" You"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "know, being religious, he thinks this is"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "some demon. Right?"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:55", "text": ">> And he goes, \"Okay, I'll be right back.\""}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "And then he goes in and he kind of like"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "sits there in silence with it for a"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "second. Comes back out with a stack of"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "uh like papers and says, you know, he's"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "done, but now he has uh these are all"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "previous answers that we were given. And"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "he starts reading through them. And like"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "the answers were, you know, where are"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "you from? And you know, they say, you"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "know, we're we're part of the same"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "galaxy, but our mission is to monitor"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "this planet, yada yada. And that uh you"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "know, he asks him, is God real? And he"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "goes, well, not the God that you think?"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "And like gives him some kind of weird,"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:31", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:34", "text": ">> You know, roundabout answer. But that to"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "me, again, you know, um deathbed"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "confessions are"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:37", "text": ">> huge."}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:39", "text": ">> Yeah. To me, that's that's the biggest"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "piece of evidence. Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> you're alleviating your burdens. You're"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "alleviating your mind. You're not"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "worried about any repercussions."}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": ">> It's the most credible confession. It's"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "the most credible, you know, unless"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "you're completely delirious. Uh, to me,"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "it's the most credible thing you can"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "ever hear from another human being,"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "period. Is when you're about to leave"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "this planet, what do you what do you"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "want to leave this planet with? A lie, a"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "joke, a farce, a hoax,"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:07", "text": ">> somebody's cover up, some scop. It's all"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "very strange to leave somebody with"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "that. But to leave them with that story."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:12", "text": ">> And so, yeah, I just thought that was an"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "interesting connection there about the"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "conga line of people asking questions."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "It kind of lines up."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:18", "text": ">> And they have index cards. They write"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "the answers down on index cards."}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": ">> The DNI. Let me finish with this. This"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "is what started my whole saga."}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:25", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:28", "text": ">> I'm running for United States Congress."}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:31", "text": ">> And it's 1999. I'm not going to win."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "This is this is a a hellish 11-way"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "primary in the Northshore of Chicago."}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "the John Hughes where he made all the"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "high school movies, the Home Alone"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "houses, the Northshore, these are all,"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "you know, uppidity, very wealthy people"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "at a lot of the neighborhoods and and"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "it's a free-for-all. We are we are"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "destroying each other. private"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "detectives smear the um a national"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "newspaper still to this day it's on"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "Grock and John Stewart was involved in"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "the 11-way primary that national"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "newspapers called the dirtiest"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "congressional primary in history which"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "kind of helped me for being able to"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "absorb what happened to me for the past"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "you know six years I end up endorsing a"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "guy I became friends with Mark Kirk who"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "became the congressman and became a"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "one-term senator Senator Mark Kirk"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "He was in the reserves for and he was a"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "naval intelligence officer in the"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "reserves."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "This started the whole thing. We're on"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "the back of the bus just him and I. John"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "McCain is brought in. We're doing a bus"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "tour for the district to to hype up the"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "primary. And it's Mark and I at the back"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "of the bus that Chris, this started"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "And and Leslie Keane once told me, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "you found some you you you touched the"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "third rail. You were like asking a mafia"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "guy the code name for a And so I said,"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "\"Mark, um, before everyone gets on, what"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "is the DNI? The Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "Intelligence.\" And he did and he was"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "over here and he did this."}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "Oh, yeah. The DNI. Yep. The DNI. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "doing this."}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "Yeah. And he's like, and he and he"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "looked at me like this and people"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "started filing on to the bus and it"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "faded in, you know, to the to the buzz"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "of everyone. And I remember going, \"Holy"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "this video"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "might be real.\" Because I just had a"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "naval intelligence officer who became"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "our senator in Illinois swallow his"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "peach pit. I'm still friends with him."}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:37", "text": ">> I was out to dinner with him a year ago."}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "He's the one that got me involved with"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "Captain John Levelvel of the Apollo"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "missions. I'm not dropping names. I'm"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "just saying he doesn't know anything"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "about this, but that's and I've had"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "again I remember telling the story to"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "Leslie Keane. She's like, \"Well, this is"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "reporters have that it's you're touching"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "the third rail. You you are getting the"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "sense that you just hit a raw nerve.\""}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "Yeah. And and why why why would he not"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "look at me and go, \"What are you"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "Department"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "Naval Intelligence? What are you talking"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "about? There is no such thing. He did"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "it. He just he said nothing and he"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "repeated it and he looked off into the"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "distance and I just Chris I had a my"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "stomach dropped and this was two years"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "after the 97 documentary came out. I'm"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "like, \"Oh my god.\""}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:22", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": ">> Oh my god. Are you telling me because I"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "thought basically I thought it was maybe"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "a carefully crafted hoax that this thing"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "could be real. And the last thing with"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "the DNI is um he worked for NASA, Bob"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "Oler, and he called the IRS with Bob"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "Lazar's EIN, the federal uh uh tax"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "number. Every when you get when you are"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "a business, you get a sure EIN number. I"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "have one for my business, your it's your"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "tax index number. That's how you pay"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "your taxes for your company. And the IRS"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "took like five minutes, came back on the"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "phone, said this is I don't know what"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "this is. This is classified. We can't"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "tell you. This is Bob Oxler. worked"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "worked for Nassau. He was the one that"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "called that one admiral. He said, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "we've got, you know, craft and whatnot.\""}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "So, there's John Stewart, the dingling"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "car dealer. Just gave you five pretty"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "damn good stories that possibly as far"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "as the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "is concerned. Bob Lazar was correct."}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "That that that Bob was right. And before"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "Bob, I've researched this. I could be"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "wrong. The Department of Navy"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "intelligence was never brought up. Bob"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "Lazar Yeah. was. I could be wrong, but"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "in my investigation, Bob Lazar was the"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "first one to bring up a a"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:38", "text": ">> That's a great point."}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": ">> A a a Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "that doesn't exist and to write it on a"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "payroll stub and have it and get it give"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "it and Bob Lazar created a a IRS"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "taxpayer ID that another person's told"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "is is classified."}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": ">> You know, I was I was born at night, but"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "it wasn't last night. So again, we're"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "hoaxing. Chris Ramsay and John Stewart"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "are hoaxing this video. We have a stool"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "left in the thing. We've hired two guys"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "to wear military outfits. We don't"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "really put them in the shot. Their"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "shoulders are getting in the way of the"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "camera. Um we we have uh we have uh"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "medics that are not in pressurized"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "suits. We take I was told by a"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "cameraman, he's in my end of my"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "documentary, my good friend James"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "Mastery. He was a cameraman for ABC"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "Chicago. He talked to me for a half hour"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "about digital overlay graphics. I said,"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "\"Jim, in '91 or '96 when we think this"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "may it was a hoax. How much to put that"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "on there?\" He goes, \"If like a video"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "production company, it's like this took"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "hours. You had to cut out the numbers,"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "put it on the film, recopy the film,"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "transfer it.\" And as far as the transfer"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "and stuff, 16 mm transfer to VHS tape."}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "Is Chris Ramsey and John Stewart on a"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "short budget going to find 16 millimeter"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "film, film it on that one take? That's a"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "one. We've positive it's one take. take"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "that 16 millimeter film, transfer it to"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "VHS tape, have this actor go around"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "other film studios, have them come back"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "to us, and then finally use this crappy"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "VHS tape that we have to darken for the"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:17", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:22", "text": ">> Isn't the AAM's razor that this was"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "taken out of a government facility? It"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "was shot on 16 millimeter. Victor went"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "home again. I I don't like this guy, but"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "his his name is Andrew Burlington. He's"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "from England."}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "He thinks conclusively that Victor, he"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "knows the computer. It was a 1996"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "Gateway 3000 computer because it's got a"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "white watermark line that Victor used"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "this computer to take the 16 millimeter"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "film or the DVD disc and put it to a VHS"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "tape. So, pretty pretty interesting. So"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "that's that's our DNI story that um I I"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "am really very proud of and proud of"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "that I can tell people don't throw Bob"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "Lazar to the trash sheep of of grifters"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "and hoaxers cuz I think you're going to"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "get disappointed."}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, that's Thank you for sharing"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "that. It's a lot of information and it's"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "a lot of news to me. So, it's very cool"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "to hear about this elusive Department of"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "Naval Intelligence because as most"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "people who follow Bob Lazar story know,"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "that's another point of contention that"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "they keep bringing up. But"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": ">> as most of us who, you know, look"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "further into Bob Lazar story, we realize"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "that give it enough time and Bob will be"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "vindicated yet again. Um,"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:38", "text": ">> and I've got another Bob Lazor story for"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "later on about lunch. You have to ask me"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "that. Oh, well, the lunch truck, the"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "food trucks. Yeah. Um, and"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:47", "text": ">> it's like asking me, John, as a pro"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "wrestler, what what what did you guys"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "say in the backstage? What did you say"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "in the locker room?"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:53", "text": ">> Yeah, there's only"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "there's a bunch of stuff that only I"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "would know."}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": ">> So, I I got the monitor if you want to"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "go over the monitor because that's a"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "really"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": ">> I do I also want to note that um"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "according to Victor, this being arrived"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "to S4 in ' 89,"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:07", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:09", "text": ">> That's also when Bob was there."}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:12", "text": ">> Yeah. in the Kawahari crash."}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:14", "text": ">> Yeah. So, it's uh it's it's Well, I was"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "that was I mean that I don't know to be"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "a fact because"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:18", "text": ">> I don't either."}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Because that could also just be"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "passage material yet again."}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:23", "text": ">> Something I'm very proud of. I have"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "absolutely"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:31", "text": ">> no idea, no information,"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "no nothing even even um anecdotal of"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "where that being came from."}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:36", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:38", "text": ">> And where it crashed. Yeah. I"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "please don't look at give me the look."}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": ">> We found a person that claims a woman"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "that claims she transcribed the index"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "cards into notes. Oh,"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:49", "text": ">> and I will tell you what she said about"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "this this being a little heartbre. You"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "want me to tell you that now?"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:53", "text": ">> Yeah, please."}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": ">> That they nicknamed him Oscar."}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:57", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:16:00", "text": ">> That this was his first mission."}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "he conveyed. Now, this again, one thing,"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "Victor, um, and I've I've interviewed."}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:06", "text": ">> Who is this lady?"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:07", "text": ">> I'm not going to tell you her name."}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:08", "text": ">> Don't tell me your name, but who was"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "she? Like, how did she hit you?"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:12", "text": ">> She she she contacted me off the"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "internet, my email, cuz I get my email"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "back."}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:14", "text": ">> Did you vet her?"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:15", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:18", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:19", "text": ">> Um, I'm just telling you the story."}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I want to know everything."}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": ">> I I know that you have were talk a lot"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "about S4. I just saw your um your video"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "on Cosmic Road where you talked about"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "interviewing I interviewed for three"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "hours a woman, a widow who claimed her"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "husband was an S4 telepath and that he"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "went crazy. They made they turned him"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "into a bust out the same thing almost"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "like with Victor allegedly. I"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "interviewed her for she was like, I"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "found it fascinating and I was a person"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "that transcribed the notes of the tele"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "thought projection, she said of the"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "thought projection interviews between"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "the being and the telepaths. Okay."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:16:58", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:16:59", "text": ">> She's like, I'm not going to tell you"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "anything more. Here's what I can tell"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "you."}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:02", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:04", "text": ">> They nicknamed him Oscar"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:08", "text": ">> lady. Come out here. Now, this is what"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "you I'm just telling you what this woman"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> No, I'm I'm telling you I want this lady"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "on the podcast. Let's go. I'll I'll I'll"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "I'll backlight her. I'll I'll do the"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "whole thing."}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:18", "text": ">> This moved me a little bit. So, I don't"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "want to laugh too much because I just a"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:23", "text": ">> They nicknamed him Oscar. It was his"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "first mission. He got This is what he"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "relayed. And what I want to tell you"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "that there was a lot of um there was a"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "lot of fuzz and and um um opakeness with"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "were the beings really telling us the"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "truth or were we getting the right"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "information, you know, how does a being"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:44", "text": ">> or is the telepath you know"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:45", "text": ">> because they put pictures in your head."}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "So how does a being put a picture in the"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "head that you're he was confused? His"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "name was Oscar. It was his first mission"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "allegedly. He was confused. it was a"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "hard landing and that he described that"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "he was sick and that he wanted to know"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "where his other crew members were, which"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "I don't think it was the Kalahari crash"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "because that was only allegedly two"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "beings. He wanted to know the"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "disposition of his other crew members."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "And the last thing was it was that he"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "was afraid of being there"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:18", "text": ">> and he in that in the in the facility of"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "E4. This is what this stenographer"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "whatever transcriber."}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:22", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": ">> Um told her. My wife was there on"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "speakerphone with me. My niece was there"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "who's a corporate pilot, not some"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "nitwit. And we were like, \"Oh my.\" And"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "and my two daughters were there. And"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "when and when the the lady said, and she"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "sounded a little Spanish. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "saying I I I'm not I don't want to just"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "giving you everything that I can derive."}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "When she said, you know, he was afraid."}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "My daughters got moved like they were"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "like and they like"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": ">> and and when the phone call ended my"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "daughter was like daddy you know my my"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "daughters they're like daddy I mean"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "makes us feel bad that could have been a"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "great hoaxer I"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:59", "text": ">> yeah but there's also the the"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "anthropomorphic sort of take where you"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "know we also feel the same for um Stitch"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "and Lilo and Stitch because he's a"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "Disney character he's not real and we"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "kind of feed our own humanity into him"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "but"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:12", "text": ">> but yeah giving him a name doesn't"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "giving him a name like Oscar."}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:16", "text": ">> But yeah,"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:19", "text": ">> I'm not going to say anymore."}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "Fat bald Italian wrestler."}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:20", "text": ">> Don't worry about that."}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:21", "text": ">> I'm not worried. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:22", "text": ">> Don't worry about that."}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:24", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:25", "text": ">> but that was again I give you the whole"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "story."}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:28", "text": ">> I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:28", "text": ">> and and and it was and it was and it was"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "fascinating."}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:30", "text": ">> If I was worried about the people those"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "people, you know, wouldn't be doing"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "this. and she contacted me after I told"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "this long hour story of the of the S4 uh"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "the widow whose husband allegedly was an"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "S4 telepath and had the same again she"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "didn't know a lot about the Victor story"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "told me whether it's true or not sure"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": ">> that her husband had the same um the"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "same issue that Victor had which was"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "you're not going to tell the people"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "about this program"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": ">> you're you're no no not on my watch and"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "her husband felt the same thing and she"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "said He went crazy at a conference table"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "when they told him that they were the"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "that a a offensive weapon or something a"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "a system that they were developing was"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "going to be used or could be used or or"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "being pushed to being used in an"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "offensive manner for the military. He"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "exploded like you can change the world"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "with this and they they actually threw"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "him out of the program. they they they"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "uh they they did things she felt to in"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "inhibit him from getting a real job. She"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "said he was an an adjun professor or"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "lecturer, not a full-time. She said,"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "\"John, I'm telling you, two of his"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "students from UCLA came up to him"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> when we were out because they lived in"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "Los Angeles and you know, professor blah"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "blah blah.\" She goes, \"I know he wasn't"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "full of it. Um"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:52", "text": ">> but they turned him into a bum"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "effectively just like what Victor"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "claims. I'm on the run. I you know"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:57", "text": ">> that's interesting. I would very"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "interesting. I would um you know I'm"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "extending a a branch out here to you"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "know anybody who knows this lady or"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "anybody involved like reach out. I would"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "love to"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:09", "text": ">> hear it for myself and if there's any"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "way that we can get some of this"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "information out even anonymously. I mean"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "that would be really"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": ">> this is part of this this for the past"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "six years people come out of the"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "woodwork. They email and they contact"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "us."}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> I've had that too. Yeah it's it's"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "interesting. It is frustrating as well"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "because you know part of you is like you"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "can hold this information and share it"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "with other researchers but outside of"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "that you know it doesn't really do any"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "good um"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:34", "text": ">> and it hasn't helped my investigation"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "coming forward talking about it begging"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "people to help me has been awesome. It's"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "helped. So"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:39", "text": ">> but I wanted to talk about the monitor"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "because"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:42", "text": ">> let's talk about let's talk about the"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "monitor. This little heart monitor that"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "jumps up and down."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So you know I'm not getting"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "uh sappy here or whatever but I'm in my"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "driveway. It's 2019. and I just lost the"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "governor's primary for the Libertarian"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "Party. Um, my life isn't very good at"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "the time. Um, and every metric I won't"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "go into, you know, I whatever every part"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "of your life, health, finances,"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "marriage, whatever. It just things were"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "not going good for me. and and maybe"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "that was that you know when you get down"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "when you're feeling low sometimes that's"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "when you know um"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "when you hit would say rock bottom but"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "when you hit a low point you know"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "sometimes that's not the the worst thing"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "in the world another door will open"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:29", "text": ">> and um I was sitting in my car and I got"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "home early one day I remember my it was"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "the a drizzle was coming down and this"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "the this video was bothering me the"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "whole everything Victor the video"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "everything was just bother bothering me."}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "I you know and and I said to myself,"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "I've got a I I'm I've come home early."}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "I've got some hours. I'm going to find"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "something about this video right now."}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "Fact or not, proof or not. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "prove this is fake right now. What do I"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "do? I'm like, I I don't I can't find"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "these doctors. I can't find I don't know"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "anybody in eufology, the military,"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "nothing. I started from the ground floor"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "on this investigation. And I said, \"But"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "this monitor, this monitor is bizarre."}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "The blip goes up.\" And I want people to"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "hear me clearly here. The the green"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "trace it's called, that's the technical"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "term, goes up and down. The trace does"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "not stay on the bottom of the screen,"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "which every oscilloscope, every heart"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "monitor, every EKG, the trace will stay"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "down, and it will also go up and down,"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "but the bottom of the trace will always"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "remain on the bottom of the screen. this"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "monitor that ball comes off of the"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "bottom of the screen. We've stopmotioned"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "it. So, it was very weird. Now, Haimey"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "Mousan said that uh 15 cardiologists,"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "thoracic surgeons all claim in Mexico"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "that the the heart monitor, if it was,"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "was was perfect in sync of that being"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "coughing and going into some which they"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "thought which they thought was a cardiac"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "um a cardiac arrest. There was a couple"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "of thoracic surgeons that told Haimey"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "Misan back in 97 that they think that"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "that was that heart monitor was showing"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "a single ventricle heart."}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:14", "text": ">> Now, we know that what I've been told"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "about this creature does have a weird"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "physiology, a heart, lung, one sack"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "organ. Maybe that's what it was showing."}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": ">> That's what we and that's what we hear"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "about in in, you know, other parts of"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "this lore."}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:28", "text": ">> So, this is a this is a cute story and"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "it and I I love telling it because it it"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "it's charming. It's real and it shows"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "humanity. So I'm in my car. Thank God"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "for the internet. iPhones. This I'm in"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "my car. I go on the internet. Who made"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "physiological monitors in the early 90s?"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "Right"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:49", "text": ">> when Victor said this was made in ' 91."}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:51", "text": ">> I find two two companies. Space Labs,"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "not SpaceX and Huelet Packard were the"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "were the primary builders, developers,"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "R&D of of monitors. I find this in"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "minutes. I contact space uh space labs."}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "Um I email them. They email me back."}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "Well, sure. This is the research and"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "development department of space labs."}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "They did monitors for NASA. They send us"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "the video clip. We'll tell you what we"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "think it is. They send it back. I have"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "the email. I show it. Uh headscratcher."}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "We have no idea what this is. The"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "company that made monitors for NASA"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "doesn't know what they're looking at."}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "Now I go to Huelet Packard. Hello. Can I"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "have the research and development"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "department for physiological matters?"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "One moment, please. You know, I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "well, this is this is interesting. Can I"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "help you? Whatever he said. This is Hulu"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "Packard. I said, is there John Stewart?"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "I'm I'm an investigator. Is there a"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "really old guy in the your R&D"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "department? Crusty old guy, Chris. my my"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "hand of bright hand of God, you know,"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "maybe he doesn't talk to a lot of"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "people. They stay away. Maybe he's"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "getting ready to retire, but he's been"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "there forever. My my hand to God, he"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "goes, \"Oh, we've got one of those. One"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "of those.\" Puts me on hold. I hear,"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "\"Hello.\" I tell the guys like in his"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "60s. And I was very, very cordial with"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "him. I know I talk fast. I pissed a lot"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "of people off, bothered them with how"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "fast I talk at times. And I said, \"Sir,"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:23", "text": "my name is John Stewart. I'm from"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "Chicago. I'm an investigator. We're"}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "doing a documentary, which I wasn't. Um,"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "I've got this physiological monitor I've"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "never seen before. Is there any way I"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "can get your email and email you this"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "clip and you tell me what this is? What"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "if you know what you can help me?"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "Absolutely. He gives me his email."}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:44", "text": ">> This is five minutes later. This is"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "after space lab. I mean, this is talk"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "about the internet and smartphones."}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "I call him back. He answers the phone"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "and he goes, \"Uh, a kid, I don't know"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "what I don't know what I'm looking at.\""}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "I'm like, \"You've never seen anything"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "like this.\" He said, \"I've never seen"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "the trace go up and down, and I don't"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "know why.\" And he he had a a statement."}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "I don't know why you would make the"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "trace uh go vertically and not"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "horizontally. In the in physiological"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "terms, it doesn't make sense. Okay, it's"}, {"start": "01:27:15", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "a little bit of a good piece of"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "information. He said, \"Uh, where's this"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "from?\" And I'm like, I go,"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "\"F it. I'm going to tell him the truth.\""}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "I said, \"This is allegedly from an"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "underground government facility."}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "Please don't hang up on me. Allegedly,"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "this is monitoring the phys physiology"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> physiology"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "of an extraterrestrial.\" He doesn't"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "laugh and doesn't hang up. Now, this has"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "been repeated dozens of times in this"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "investigation where people do not laugh"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "at me, nor do they hang up the phone. I"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "find that a little weird. He said,"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "\"That's interesting.\""}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "He said, \"Um,"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:03", "text": "he said, \"It's on an alien.\" Well, I"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "think you're looking at a one-off."}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "What's a one-off? He's like, \"Well, in"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "manufacturing terms, it's only if you're"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "trying to solve a problem, there's not a"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "device to solve it.\" He gives me the"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "analogy. If you're looking for gold in"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "1800s, you would create a gold detector"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "to help you find gold in the ground on"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "that type of that type of um that type"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "of of of methodology."}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "And he said, \"If uh if you're telling me"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "that he had this creature has a one sack"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "or you know, heart and lung is one one"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "unit, um a human physiological monitor"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "would not work. You'd have to create a"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "one-off that could monitor this"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "creature.\" I took my iPhone and I was"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "bashing my head to check me back in"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "reality like this can't be happening."}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "This this guy is giving me like a"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "breadcrumb trail."}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "And he said uh I think that's what"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "you're looking at. I think the"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "government probably would have made this"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "especially to monitor this this creature"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "because he does not have the organs as"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "you said of a human being doing the"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:12", "text": "Okay. if you need anything else, you"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "have my number. Go ahead and give me a"}, {"start": "01:29:12", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "call."}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:18", "text": ">> I hang up in my car. I'm like, I I just"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:21", "text": "do not believe that this this just"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "happened. This is not enough. I want to"}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "be a true journalist. I need another"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "three sources. That's what I've always"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "been taught in journalism classes. Now,"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "I find I'm going to wrap this story up."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "No, actually, no, I'm not going to wrap"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "it up. I find three people from Sweden"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "that did their PhD level dissertation on"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "the history of physiological monitors."}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "Now, have I gone to the top of the the"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "mountain as far as physiological"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "monitors in a matter of 10 minutes. The"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "guy's name is Sven. I email him. He"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "emails me back. I have the email. I send"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "him the clip without the alien. I don't"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "want to scare people to death."}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:56", "text": ">> Cropped it."}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:29:58", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:00", "text": ">> Writes me back. This is a guy with his"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "two cohorts that's just did the history"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "of physiological monitors. Um, Mr."}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "Stewart, we have absolutely no idea what"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "we're looking at. I'm sorry, we can't"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "help you. And I simply said to myself,"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "with having a rudimentary knowledge of"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "Hollywood, is a schllock third tier"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "production company really going to"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "invent this monitor that has never been"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "created in the world and and whatnot?"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "Let me give you the debunking. I call an"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "FX person. Oh, I could do that. How can"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "you do it? Oh, I'll put a laser on a"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "servo and I'll tap it up and down and"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "and that's how I would do it. A laser on"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "a servo. And what would it hit? A piece"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "of glass. I get my daughters. We get a"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "piece of glass. We manufacture. We put"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "it on a stand. I get a the modern laser"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "from the internet. We shut down the"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "lights in my living room. I start"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "bouncing it. Yeah, there's a green blip"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "on it, but it's diffused. It's coming in"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "the back of the wall."}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "So we realized that this was a lot more"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "advanced if it's special effects than"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "just putting up a piece of glass in a in"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "a laser on a servo."}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:07", "text": ">> There would have to be masking of like"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "the uh of the diffusion. There would"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "have to be like so much more that went"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "into simply that"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:16", "text": ">> bombshell. I pay $2,500. This is the"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "start of the writing the checks. I give"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "$2,500 to Bill Mums who National"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "Geographic hired to do the analysis of"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "the Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot film. Okay."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> Did I go to the top of the mountain"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "again? Nat Gio hired him. I think he'd"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "be good enough for I give him the film."}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "Pay him $2,500. His name is Bill Mums."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:40", "text": "He writes me back and he says definitely"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "16 millimeter. Ah, coincides with what"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "what we've heard. Cool."}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": ">> Transferred to gives me this the speed"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "frame, the 60"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "blank blank per second."}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:51", "text": ">> I've got the whole eight page analysis"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "Um, but there's a I don't think this is"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "real, but I'm saying that on face value,"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "but it's 16 mm and nobody uses 16"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "millimeter. There's a problem. Well, of"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "course there's a problem. Just like the"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "other FX guy. What's the problem?"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "There's no creases under the armpits."}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "Okay. He writes back. He goes, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "every"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "foam latex doll that I haven't been"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "involved in since the 50s"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:20", "text": ">> during the drying process around 75%"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "they let the arms droop down."}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:25", "text": ">> You know, if they mold a creature and"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "when they every creature when the arms"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "come down, a crease develops in the"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "armpit. He sends me 20 pictures of the"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "creature of the black lagoon to this guy"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "to this this video. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:37", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:39", "text": ">> I got my money's worth. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "Bill, what does that mean? And he said,"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "\"Well, it means that some unknown"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "technique has been used by this Rocket"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "Pictures in Beverly Hills that did a"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "Chvy the Rodney Dangerfield golf video.\""}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "That's me. That's my language. This"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "video production company suddenly"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "devised"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:02", "text": ">> a new process, a breakthrough of"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "animatronic foam latex dolls. And I"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "don't believe that what I just wrote."}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "And he said, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "you know, tread lightly. This is this is"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "weird. I cannot explain this.\" Oh, I"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "forgot. Here's the monitor. He sends me"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "the picture to the monitor where all we"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "saw was the glass. He was able to"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "lighten it. It is bracketed by a metal"}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "bracket, not where Chris Ramsay and John"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "Stew would put four pieces of angle iron"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "metal around a piece of glass. This has"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "got like a bubble, like a bubble on top"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "of metal with a fin. And on the one part"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "of the of the bracket is a protrusion,"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "like a cartridge of a bullet, like a you"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:46", "text": "know, like the top of a missile."}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:48", "text": ">> Like somebody had a mold around that"}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "like something went Why would you just"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "not put four pieces of metal together?"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:57", "text": ">> And and Bill goes, \"Somebody made this."}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "There's a reason for that protrusion.\""}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "Said the same thing I'm thinking."}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "Special effects guys have just put four"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "pieces of metal. This is bracketed. It's"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "got a fin. It's got the protrusion."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:08", "text": ">> Too much work."}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:12", "text": ">> Too much work."}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:15", "text": ">> Are you ready? Hi, Mr. Stewart. I'm blah"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "blah blah blah blah. Have you seen the"}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "video about Whitley Striber talking"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "about your alien in the monitor?"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "Uh, no. Let me send it to you. Whitley"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "Striber 2014 at a conference."}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "Do you see this video behind me? It's my"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "alien interview with the blip. He goes,"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "I think this is real and I want to I"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "want to This is Whitley. This isn't John"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "Stewart. And I want to tell you why. Do"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "you see that green blip on the screen?"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "He's got it over his head in the"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "conference. I saw that exact same green"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "blip when I was writing the book"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "Communion. I think it's the way those"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "types of aliens communicate with human"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "beings. And I was would see it at the"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "corner of my eye in my on my at my"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "writing desk at my home. And I would try"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "and put my hand over it and it would not"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "cover the blip. And it drove me crazy."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "I'd put my thumb on it. I could not get"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "rid of this blip. And I think it's the"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "way the beings were communicating with"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "me when I was writing communion. But I"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "have something to ask the audience. I"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "have never told anyone about that green"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "blip since today. How in the hell did a"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "Hollywood producer in 1996 know to put"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "that green blip in that video that the"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "gray beans that is one way or possibly a"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "way of them communicating I never told a"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "soul. So how did that Hollywood producer"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "and I'm asking your audience how did"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "that producer Rocket Pitcher know to put"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "that to put that green blip in?"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:53", "text": ">> And I about I about fell off my my chair"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "when I heard that. And um I've had other"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "people email me"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:57", "text": ">> again. I want to tell you the whole very"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "quick story."}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:00", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": ">> Somebody said, \"I think Bell Labs made"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "that. They turned the modulation so on"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "and so forth.\" Okay."}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:11", "text": ">> Somebody else uh emails me. Um he's kind"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "of known in eupfology. Mr. Stewart, it's"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "not a heart monitor. It's not a"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "physiological monitor. It is kind of a"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "communication device, but the gray beans"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "give off a vibratory response. Now,"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "we've heard this from other people,"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "other abductees. We heard this from the"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "S4 security guard, Derek Hennessy."}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "Whether you believe him or not, they"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "would put Vaseline on the hair of their"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "arms in the back of their necks when"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "they were around the the the Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "crap in the hangers because they gave"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "off a vibratory resonance. Their skin,"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "the the human beings vibrated. And this"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "person told me that grays give off a"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "vibration. And that box was built"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "specifically to absorb to detect to to"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "detect that vibration."}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:01", "text": ">> After all of this is still not good"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "enough. I will finish up here. I did"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "find Tektronics."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "No, it got got made into a comp a"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "different company."}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "That's why I love you, bro. Tektronics"}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "did make a similar looking green blip."}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "It's this real vivid blip that did not"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "stay on the bottom of its whatever its"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "machine that I have the video of."}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> So I did find an actual human-made"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "machine with that blip, but it did not"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "look anything like that box. So that So"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:33", "text": ">> So when you when you look at the you"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "whistle past the graveyard on the"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "alienated hoax hoax and you just hear of"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "the of the monitor story."}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:42", "text": ">> How did Whitley"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:42", "text": ">> and that's just one thing. It's one"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "thing,"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:45", "text": ">> you know, there's there's so many"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "different things in this video from the"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "video itself, how it was filmed, where"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "it was shot, how it came to be, and then"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "yeah, certain items in the video,"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "certain, you know, potential costumes"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "that don't make sense."}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": ">> Chris, can I say one thing? Sure."}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:01", "text": ">> Would it make sense that the government"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "knew what Whitley knew from dealing with"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "the beans for 70 years that we have"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "devised this green box and this is the"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "way they communicate? That's when I hear"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "like the Whitley Streber story I say"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "government siah"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:17", "text": ">> but that almost but that almost negates"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "the uh the telepathy you know it almost"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "uh replaces the telepathy then so"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": ">> no that's not true I was told that the"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "vibration um that they give off they"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "emanate a different vibration when they"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "are in stress or when they and then"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "someone else told me just a random"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "eupfologist that that was the bean's way"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "of telling the telepath I'm try I"}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "sending you something right now. I don't"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "believe that. Okay."}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:43", "text": ">> But that's an interesting p."}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:44", "text": ">> Sure. It's interesting."}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:46", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:47", "text": ">> I think we should get to the chairman."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:48", "text": ">> Let's get to the chairman"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:50", "text": ">> and the list of men in the room."}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:51", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. That would be really"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "interesting. So, there were a few people"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "in the foreground. There were the two"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "doctors that approached as well. Um, and"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:00", "text": ">> yeah, what do we know about these"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "people? How do we know that these are"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "real people? So like many things I you"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "know I've always been interested in"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "conspiracies and whatnot and I always"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "know and realize like with MJ12 like"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "with a lot a lot of other things when"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "you go public as an author, researcher,"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "investigator, journalist sometimes"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "people in the know will approach you'll"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "send you things."}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:24", "text": ">> So I go on the Jeff Rents program uh"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "this is one of the oldest internet"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "programs pre-podcast in in America."}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": ">> And he writes me back. He said, \"I I"}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "totally I know this video, John. I"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "believe this is real. You're coming on."}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "Let's tell me what you have.\" I go on"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "there, the hat in hand, the humble John"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "Stewart, not the crazy guy. Can anyone"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "help me? Here's what I have so far. I"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "told the whole monitor story, so on and"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "so forth. A week after that, well, I"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "must want to say one thing before that"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "two days, this was Memorial Day 2022,"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "my emails disappear off my phone. My"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "red, be specific because your viewers"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "should get spec specificity. My red but"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "not deleted emails disappeared off my"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "phone. It was in my cup holder. My wife"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "and I were driving in the upper"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "Michigan, upper peninsula of Michigan"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "and my screen goes blue, black, white,"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "black. I go and all of the blue dots"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "saying your email, they're gone. I"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "looked at my wife and said, \"That's"}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "crazy.\" I'm like, she's like, \"What"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "happened?\" I'm like, \"My emails are"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "gone.\" So, I talked to the Jeff Wrench"}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "producer pre pre-in, which is standard"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "operating procedure. I said, \"I just"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "want to let you know my my emails"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "disappeared yesterday.\" Oh, that happens"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "all the time. To who? A lot of our"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "guests. He goes, \"John, we're monitored."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "A lot of these podcasts and radio shows"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "are monitored. This this happens all the"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "time. And you know, you and Jeff and I"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "have been emailing back and forth for"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "two weeks. You You must have been on"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "somebody's radar. Um, don't worry about"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "it.\" I'm like, \"Well, I I am not a UFO"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "guy. I am worried about it.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "\"Mr. Stewart, just relax. This has"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "happened before. Jeff Wren's producer"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "about um it 10 days later in June, I get"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "an email from a person and he said, \"I"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "caught your your um your your interview"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "on the Jeff Rens program. You had some"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "things right. You had some things wrong."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "I am knowledgeable of these programs."}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "I'm not in these programs, but I"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "acknowledge and I know people in these"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "programs and I'll never forget this"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "line. If I can give your investigation a"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "nudge, I will."}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:35", "text": ">> Boom. Okay. Doesn't sign his name or"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "anything. Once a month, very important"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "to know this. Once a month, I get an"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:44", "text": "email from him. How you doing? Or um"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "uh caught you on another podcast. You"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "got this wrong or that wrong. very I"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "would say light topical"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:51", "text": ">> sure"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:52", "text": ">> things once a month"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:55", "text": ">> there's an interesting exchange"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:57", "text": ">> have to know this"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": ">> on my birthday so this is about nine"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "months later on my birthday"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "um I get from the horse's mouth now I'm"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "a public figure pro wrestler but it's"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "hard to find my birthday I just find it"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "funny on my birthday on a Friday"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "um I get this email from the horse's"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "mouth and it's his email address and I"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "open it up and I want to be very"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "specific here. He's obviously an old"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "Well, I know who he is now, but he is an"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "old person, older person in his 70s,"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:35", "text": ">> not technically savvy. What he did was"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "forward me forwarded me an email that"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "was sent to him from someone he knew"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "inside the DIA. What we have found out"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "is the Defense Intelligence Agency runs"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "all things ex alien extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "project Aquarius out at out at Papoose"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "Lake and the N uh Nellis test and"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "training facility. DIA runs the umbrella"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "program and under that umbrell umbrella"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "program is NSA, DO DOE, um uh DNI, uh"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "Navy, uh Air Force, so on and so forth."}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "But the the overseer running this"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "program, the air traffic controller,"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "Defense Intelligence Agency, who I found"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "out was created by Senator Barry"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "Goldwater and John F. Kennedy because"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "the CIA was obuscating and subverting"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "them. They wanted a a department to"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "collect their own intelligence. And"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "Goldwater and John F. Kennedy created"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "the DIA. And the DIA,"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:35", "text": ">> believe it or not, uh the Air Force was"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "through with the extraterrestrial with"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "Project Blue. They had it. They actually"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "kind of put it up for auction. Does"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "anybody want to take over the DIA brass?"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:48", "text": ">> Yeah, they took on Stargate as well. And"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:52", "text": ">> okay, this is why I come here. So"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "he I get an email from him from this"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "person and this is from So this is like"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "John Stewart sending an email from Chris"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "Ramsey to the UFO investigator and it"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "says this is not talking to me. This is"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "so important. This is John Stewart, two"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "and Chris Ramsay, two pals communicating"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "with each other. This guy does not know"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "I'm being sent this. And it says,"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "\"Here's what I know about um that film.\""}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "Um it was classified as an unauthorized"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "viewing, not a theft,"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:28", "text": ">> not a you know, we had a big, you know,"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "investigation. Unauthorized viewing."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "That's what they they classified that. I"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "think that was to water down that it was"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "removed and to anybody in the higherups,"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "oh, it was an auto theft. Let's, you"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "know, water down the language so we"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "don't get in trouble. And it basically"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "said this. Um, this film was filmed on"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "April 22nd, 1991 at 3:15 in the"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "afternoon on behalf of the Defense Intel"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "at the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "coordinated by the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "Agency."}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "This bean was classified as an other"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "gray. I have found out that there was so"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "many species. This was so"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "run-of-the-mill that they didn't even"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "give this remember round eye tan bean,"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "not a typical gray. Instead of giving it"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "a classification like um uh uh I can't"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "even think of a of a scientific name, he"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "actually referred to it as one of the"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "other grays,"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:27", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:29", "text": ">> Which I thought was startling. If you"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "were going to hoax me, you'd give this."}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:34", "text": ">> He said it was a clone extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "biological entity type two from the"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "Taetti star system."}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:43", "text": ">> It was a hilaloid. And I I can't I have"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:45", "text": "t problems pronouncing that. Haloid is"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "someone that has something that has one"}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "sexual chromosome. We human beings are"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "diploids. Two chromosomes. This is a"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "haloid. um one classification that is"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "the only classification that I talk"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "about."}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:59", "text": ">> Why"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:03", "text": ">> he's because that's what I've been asked"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "to do by people that are advising me. So"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "do not look at me with that look."}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": ">> We're going to get to that in a second."}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "Keep going."}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": ">> So the letter continues."}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "uh,"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "the bean became, uh, distressed once"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "they, this really pissed me off. And I"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "could see why Victor was pissed off at"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "the treatment of these beings. Not that"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "we purposely mistreated them, but that"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "we were"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:30", "text": ">> bad. Yeah. Bad hosts. Ham-handed."}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:31", "text": ">> After the bean was stabilized, the"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "continued with its questioning like,"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "\"Hey, okay, we've got a minute. No,"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "don't worry about them. Come on, finish"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "your questions.\" and and it took them a"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "second to even get there and to like"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "respond."}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:41", "text": ">> That bothered me."}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:45", "text": ">> That bothered me and I felt a realness"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "in that statement, but the realness"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "comes."}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:50", "text": ">> Here's where the men in the room. This"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "is like the MJ12 document where it's"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "going to list me military men's names"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "that I've never heard of. I'm"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "knowledgeable enough in eupfology to"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "know most of the players. Sure."}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:06", "text": ">> The Hillen Cotterers and the and the"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "Bobby Yinman's and Mc Mdonald. I know"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "enough to know enough. And I'm reading"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "these names. I'm at a McDonald's Oasis"}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "in Indiana. My hand, Chris, my hand is"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "shaking because I'm getting real. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "maybe not real at this point, but I am"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "getting names to this film. There's"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "starting to become a realness. My hand"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "is shaking now. I put the document, my"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "um I put my my phone down and I'm"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:33", "text": "writing the names so I can Google them."}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "The first name was um Rear Admiral Ned"}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "Schaefer. I pull him up. Here's his"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "Wikipedia page, his milit class A dress"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "uniform. H"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "um uh what was he? He was uh head of"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "intelligence, the leaison for"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "intelligence for the joint chiefs"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "reporting to Coen Powell in the early"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "90s. Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:58", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:00", "text": ">> Never heard of them before. Now, this"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:01", "text": "list is given to Linda Molden Howell and"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "I will tell you what she said about"}, {"start": "01:48:01", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "them. The next person, he's dead. Ned"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "Schaefer."}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "Um, the next person"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "um,"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "Captain Will, Captain Lel Jacobe,"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "Naval Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "I go email him or Wikipedia him. I look,"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "there's his biopic in Wikipedia. He"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "becomes director of DIA, becomes a rear"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "rear admiral. I contact my one"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "investigator friend Chris Jackson. and"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "he's a police officer. We're talking"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:39", "text": "back and forth. I'm like, \"This [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "list's [ __ ] I've been MJ12. It's"}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "the Majestic LIST. I'M IT'S [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "I'M I'm Jamie Shandor AND BILL MOORE. I"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "THEY GOT TO ME.\" And he's like, \"This"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "list is from 91, right?\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "\"Yeah.\" He goes, \"Do you think maybe in"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "' 91 he was a captain and 30 years later"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "retired a rear admiral?\""}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "And I'm like, \"Oh [ __ ] Who would think"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "of that to give me a list of men's names"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "and ranks in 91 when that I'm just"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "saying"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:13", "text": ">> I don't know if I would have thought of"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": ">> To give someone's rank in ' 91."}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:21", "text": ">> I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "stop with the list. I find his email. I"}, {"start": "01:49:21", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "email him. Former DIA director Lel"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "Jacobe."}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "I'm John Stewart. Chitty chatty. Haha."}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "He ho ho ha. He writes me in an email,"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "\"Call me Jake. I don't wear the uniform"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "anymore.\" That was a direct quote. \"You"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "call me Jake.\" And I write him back,"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:42", "text": "\"Oh, you're you live in Virginia. I"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "heard the fried chicken at these gas"}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "stations is incredible. And I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "take you to go play golf.\" And h and"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "we're just we're golf buddies now,"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:56", "text": "chatting back and forth."}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "And uh he writes back, \"You said you're"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "working on a documentary. What What do"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "you want to ask me?"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "It's like this this space lab or the"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "Huelet Packard old guy. I'm like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:07", "text": "god, here we go.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:08", "text": ">> Said, \"Mr. Get hung up on.\""}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:12", "text": ">> Now I'm going to sound like I'm"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "bragging. I'm not. I said, \"Mr. uh Jake,"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:18", "text": ">> my father was in the Navy. I stopped the"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "closure of the North Chicago VA with"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "Mark Kirk.\" We did that. We stopped it"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "from closing. They ended up building"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "$132 million Captain James Levelvel"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "Apollo 13 surgical center. I'm very"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "proud that I was a progenitor of that."}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "I'm writing this to him. When I ran for"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "Congress, the military and veterans were"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:40", "text": "at the top of my pyramid. You have my"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "utmost respect. But this came across my"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "desk. And I sent I sent him the email."}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "These are the men in the room. And he"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "ghost me."}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:51", "text": ">> Mr. We're gonna have fried chicken and"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "play golf. Ghost me. Do you know what"}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "military people told me? When you're"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "honorable and you're in the military and"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "you don't want to lie to somebody, you"}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "won't lie to him. You stop talking to"}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "him."}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "Doesn't end. Well, John Stewart's"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "anecdotal story, Dr. Michael Salah,"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "exopolitics."}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "He goes, \"Give me his info. I'll contact"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "him.\" Whoa. So, Dr. Michael Salah emails"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "him. You know, I was a international"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "negotiator, mediator."}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "um you know um it has come to"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "you know speculation that you may have"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "been part of an extraterrestrial program"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "responds to Dr. Salah. A little respect"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:39", "text": "there. There's a political figure and he"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "says, \"I'm just not going to talk about"}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "any of that.\" Doesn't deny it."}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:46", "text": ">> Doesn't tell him, \"Go kiss my butt.\""}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "Just, you know, doesn't"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:48", "text": ">> respectfully declines."}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:50", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:53", "text": ">> Whoa. That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:56", "text": ">> Now we go down. Dr. Craig McFersonson."}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "this is slightly funny. I go on"}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:05", "text": "Wikipedia. I find Dr. Craig McFersonson."}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "He is a cardiologist in Connecticut."}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "He's got the bald head, the lab jacket."}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "Craig like cardiologist. Remember the"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "bean was coughing. I find out that"}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:19", "text": ">> he was a pulmonologist before being a"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "cardiologist. Lungs. Yeah. The coughing"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:21", "text": ">> with the VA."}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:22", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:26", "text": ">> So, did they pull him off the bench and"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "say go to S4? I'm calling his office,"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "you know, like a crazy person. Finally,"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "the secretary is like, \"I we're not You"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:37", "text": "want an appointment for your coughing?"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "You're from Chicago. How did you get a"}, {"start": "01:52:37", "end": "01:52:42", "text": ">> hold of Dr. McFerson's name?\""}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:43", "text": ">> I And you know, and and I'm stumbling"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "and she's like, \"Sir,"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:46", "text": ">> you got a bad alibi. What are you"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "doing?\""}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:50", "text": ">> So, um,"}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:52", "text": ">> you got you got to work on that. You got"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "to pick first next time."}, {"start": "01:52:52", "end": "01:52:54", "text": ">> Well, I'm going to tell you the story"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "about this."}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:58", "text": ">> Let's go."}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:53:02", "text": ">> A George Cassanza story. So, a little"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "bit of time goes by and um I tell the"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "story on the on the internet um without"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "mentioning all of the names."}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> Um and somebody says, \"I think you got"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "the wrong Craig McFersonson.\""}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "Again, internet angel."}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:18", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:21", "text": ">> Do you know a Linda Molden Howal"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "interviewed a Dr. Craig McFersonson who"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "admitted being a scientist at Area 51?"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "Oh, that's the other thing on the list."}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "This person from the DIA didn't even"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:35", "text": "know who McFersonson was. He said Dr."}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "Craig McFersonson, scientist."}, {"start": "01:53:35", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "Cuz he obviously was"}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:40", "text": ">> not military and Yeah."}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:41", "text": ">> looking off of a memo."}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:44", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:47", "text": ">> A report. An investigation memo."}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:49", "text": ">> Oh my god. I call Linda Molton How. She"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "calls me the human fire. She goes, \"You"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "have got to slow down.\" She goes, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "calm down.\" So I gave her the whole"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "story. This is Linda Molton How. She's"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "writing the names down furiously."}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "William Jacobe. She's like, \"John, you"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "have gold here. This is Linda How. You"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:07", "text": "have gold. Gol here.\" I'm like, \"What do"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "you mean?\" She's like, \"I've never heard"}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "of these men.\" John, everybody in 30"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "years has come to me with these retread"}, {"start": "01:54:12", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "names. Yeah. Of men in the military and"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "they get retread. They're now part of"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "this program or this program. you have,"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "whether it's real or not, you have names"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "of new names of men I've never heard of,"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "I am telling you, you have gold. And she"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "said, \"Yes, I interviewed Dr."}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "McFersonson. Um, it's on the internet.\""}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "I go, I find it. He said, \"Yes, I was a"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "scientist. Yes, I worked with alien"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "craft, but I didn't work with beans.\""}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "Why would you be specific about that? I"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "don't know. So, I got the wrong Craig"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "McFersonson, but I finally found the"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:49", "text": "right Craig McFersonson."}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "So, all of these names are jing. Now I"}, {"start": "01:54:49", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "see"}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "uh Robert Donovan, Army Intel. I spent"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "$400"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "with private investigators, name"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "searches, my own skip trace software"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "from the automobile industry. He's"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "intel. And I don't want to use a line"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "from a few good men, but you know, he is"}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:11", "text": "counterintelligence. There is no Colonel"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "Donovan. Okay."}, {"start": "01:55:11", "end": "01:55:15", "text": ">> Colonel Donovan doesn't exist."}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:19", "text": ">> I see. As far as you being able to"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "search him, I find a a a Robert Donovan"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "if from the Air Force. This guy was in"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:25", "text": "the army. I call."}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:29", "text": "I'm telling you, these senior citizens"}, {"start": "01:55:25", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "were just just"}, {"start": "01:55:29", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "they they just help so much. I call, I"}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "leave a message, a message is like to"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "speak with uh Colonel Donovan. Finally,"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:40", "text": "the answer machine picks up. Hello. I"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "said, \"Hi, my name is John Surin. I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "from Chicago. um trying to call Robert"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "Donovan. That's my husband. Huh? But you"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "know, you've got the wrong Donovan. I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:53", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "how do you know? He's like, well, she's"}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "like, well, because other people have"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "called here before looking for him. I"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "said, really? And I'm like, I I am I am"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "so sorry. Was your husband in the army?"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "No, he was in the Air Force. It's got a"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "picture on MySpace."}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "Like, okay, that I I I am I am really"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:13", "text": "sorry to bother you. And you know,"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "sounds like she's on her deathbed. And I"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "go to hang up and I hear on the phone,"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "thank God I didn't hang up. Hyper nut"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "John Stewart. I hear, but I know which"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "one you want."}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:27", "text": "I said, \"Yeah, you that Robert Donovan"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "lives on the East Coast, like you know,"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "like Washington DC, East Coast. I hope I"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "helped you.\" Click. And I'm like, \"Whoa,"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:37", "text": "still can't find him. I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "find him. I I spent $400."}, {"start": "01:56:37", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "Skip, trace, ancestry.\" private"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "investigator in Chicago. He is"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:46", "text": ">> no ghost."}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:48", "text": ">> Now, I've been told this will coincide"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "with Victor's name, which we eventually"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "got, which is there's two ways to get on"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "Area 51 and the Nellis test and training"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "range. Your real legal name or an"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "approved authorized approved and"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "authorized approved given name by US"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "intel, CIA, NSA, DIA. There's only two"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "ways you can't get on with your gnome to"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "plume your your a fake name. It's got to"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "be given to you um by an intelligence"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "agency and the credentials so to speak"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:22", "text": "to back it up. So I believe that that"}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "was a gnome to plume given to this"}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "person by US Army Army intel. Here we"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "go."}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:29", "text": ">> A pseudonym."}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:32", "text": ">> Yeah, pseudonym. Here we go. Go down to"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "the next next name. Dr. Wilfford Webb"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "Wilson. web nickname. Dr. Wilfford Webb"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "Wilson. I Google him. Doctor"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:46", "text": ">> dies in 2014, born in like 29."}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "There's nothing on this guy. How could"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "you be a medical doctor for 50 years, 40"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "years? There's no He Dr. Wilson hit a"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "hole in one of the country club. He gave"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "away his daughter for marriage."}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "Everything you would find out on the"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "internet. I the only thing I found on"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "him was a fifth grade picture. Okay."}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:09", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:13", "text": ">> I find his widow."}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:15", "text": ">> And I called her up and she answered."}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "Now, can you imagine calling an"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "80-year-old woman telling her, \"I think"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "your doc your husband was a doctor"}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "involved with extraterrestrials.\" But"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "that's exactly what I did. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "call her Kim. She had a short"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "threeletter name. Duh. I What else could"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:29", "text": "you I'm going to call her Kim. I said,"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "\"Kim, my name is John Stewart. I'm from"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "Chicago. I'm a documentarian, which I"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "wasn't."}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "I I want to ask you something and just"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "don't hang up on me. Just let me let me"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "say what I have to say. Is there any way"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:48", "text": "possible that your husband, Dr. Wilson,"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "was involved with a secretive government"}, {"start": "01:58:48", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "project program out at Area 51?"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "on my right hand to God. And I know I I"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "know that's a perception qualifier, but"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "I like it's an Italian Chicago thing to"}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "do. Johnny, on my right hand to God,"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "she there's a pause and I'll never"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "forget the line she used. She's like,"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "\"That's really interesting, John. A"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "light bulb is coming on over my head.\""}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "And I I I said, \"Kim, I I I don't"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "understand.\""}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "She said, \"There was a real bone of"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "contention with a web in me.\" She used"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "his nickname. I did not call him by his"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:24", "text": "nickname and the nickname was on that"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "document."}, {"start": "01:59:24", "end": "01:59:27", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:29", "text": ">> Whoa. Right. She says there was a really"}, {"start": "01:59:27", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "big bone of contention between Web and"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:34", "text": "I. Interesting. She said whenever we"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "would go out with our friend group, they"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "were from Korea, World War II, Vietnam."}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "They had funny stories about a foxhole"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "or the the food at a base or a funny"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "drill sergeant."}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "My husband would never chime in. He"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "would just stand there, sit there"}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "quietly. friends would ask what what"}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "what what did he do that he can't talk"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:55", "text": "about anything doesn't want to talk"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "about anything she said John it was such"}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "a bone of contention that verbiage there"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:01", "text": "was such a bone of contention that it"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "almost caused us a divorce I I would"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "scream at him what did you do that was"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "so terrible that you can't tell me and"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "she said you're solving a family secret"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "what did he do out there"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "oh my god I said well not only can I"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "tell you what he did I have the video I"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "said Kim I almost said her real name,"}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "Kim."}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "He was a doctor, a medic for a program"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:29", "text": "that retained and interrogated"}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "extraterrestrials. I I'm sorry. I know"}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "this is bizarre and crazy, but this is"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "what came across my desk. I have a"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "video."}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "Can I send it to you? Yes. I said, \"Do"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "you know how to go on YouTube if I send"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "you the link?\" She's like, \"Yes, I I"}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "know how to.\" I send her the YouTube"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "video. Five minutes later, I call her"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:50", "text": "back. She's like, \"John, I am.\" And and"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "we and we blew it up"}, {"start": "02:00:50", "end": "02:00:53", "text": ">> so you could barely see like D and I was"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "that, you know, because we wanted to see"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "the the can't really see the right"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "medic, but she can make out the face."}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:00", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:02", "text": ">> When we blew it up, she's like, I called"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "her up. I said, \"John, I can't be 100%"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "sure, but the doctor on our left, that's"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "Web. I know the bridge of the nose. I"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "know my husband and a medical mask I've"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "seen the time. I believe that's my"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "husband. I believe that's my husband. My"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "husband had an anglier angular face"}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "and um I'm not 100% but that looks that"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "looks like web."}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "And uh I said I I I can't Pam. I don't"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:35", "text": "know what I I don't I don't know what to"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:37", "text": "say at this point. I I I'm like um"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "he never mentioned anything. She's like,"}, {"start": "02:01:37", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "\"No, and I told you we would get in"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "fights that you know what was.\" She"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "goes, \"And now I know what possibly he"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "why he kept this secret from me.\" Funny."}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "Victor says the medical staff at S4 is"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "chosen more for their ability to keep"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "secrets than their medical knowledge."}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:57", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "Doesn't end. She goes, \"You live in"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "Chicago. My daughter lives in south"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "suburbs of Chicago. I'm going to give"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "you her name and number if you ever want"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:06", "text": "to talk to her about her stepfather."}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:08", "text": "Here it is.\" Like like I'm getting"}, {"start": "02:02:06", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "invited to the next family party. Sure."}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:13", "text": ">> You know, like not like buzz off, crazy"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "guy. Don't ever call me. Don't ever call"}, {"start": "02:02:13", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "me again."}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:18", "text": ">> I have tried to get a hold of this"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:19", "text": "person, her daughter. She has not"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "returned my emails or my phone calls."}, {"start": "02:02:19", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "I'm going to have to go to her"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "townhouse."}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:24", "text": ">> It's by an auto auction that I go to."}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "I'm just going to have to knock on the"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "door. I've done this before, but that is"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "happening. Um, and she doesn't have a"}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "Facebook where I can see if she had"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "pictures maybe of her stepdad. That"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "would this would be very very helpful."}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "And I am afraid to go back to the widow"}, {"start": "02:02:36", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "because I it's almost like it it didn't"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:40", "text": "happen. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:42", "text": ">> Does that make sense? Like you don't"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "want the bubble to be burst. I don't"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "want her to say I never told you. She"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "did tell me this. She told me"}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:51", "text": ">> But and I don't want to go back in case"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:54", "text": "we have to film this again for a docue"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "series. It could be fresh. But that"}, {"start": "02:02:54", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "story is 1,000% accurate what she told"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "me how secretive he was. The next name"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:08", "text": "on the list was Carthusian Monk one. I"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:09", "text": "know. Carthusian Monk 2. Yes, we're now"}, {"start": "02:03:08", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "in the Da Vinci Code."}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:16", "text": ">> And I'm like, okay, okay, here we go."}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "Carthusian monk. Now I Google Carthusian"}, {"start": "02:03:16", "end": "02:03:21", "text": "monk. There is a monastery"}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "in Vermont. It's called the Charter"}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:26", "text": "House Transformational Monastery. The"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "sect, the religious sect, Christian sect"}, {"start": "02:03:26", "end": "02:03:31", "text": "there is the Carthusian order. Okay?"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:33", "text": ">> And there they are monks."}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:35", "text": ">> Take a kind of a vow of silence and"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "poverty and so on and so forth. I am"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:39", "text": "going to jump ahead to let you know what"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "we found out."}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:44", "text": ">> I I have the picture of this of this one"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:47", "text": "monk who was an alleged thought"}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "projection interviewee."}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:53", "text": ">> So they were the psychics."}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:55", "text": "So, and an investigator of eyes actually"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "went there, made contact and talked with"}, {"start": "02:03:55", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "him. He's 91 years old. We call him"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "Brother Tom. Some some of us call him"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "Brother Patrick. Some of us my"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "investigation cohorts."}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "And um he's 91 years old. I'm I'm going"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "to blow your mind now. He said that Did"}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "you get this on film?"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:17", "text": ">> No, we we couldn't fil and I know. Okay."}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:19", "text": "You can't take a camera into the car"}, {"start": "02:04:17", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "charter house. They're they basically"}, {"start": "02:04:19", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "take a vow of silence. What he said was"}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "that remote viewers"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "um with the NSA were getting a we're"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "getting this vibe remote viewing of a"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "white building in the far upper east"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "coast where members there had the gift"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "telepathic gift or whatnot."}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:45", "text": ">> Wait, so these Carthusian monks were"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "found by remote viewers? And I I I want"}, {"start": "02:04:45", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "to know if this was done in the 60s,"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "would one of those view remote viewers"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "be Joel Mc McNogle?"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:54", "text": ">> McMonagle."}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:55", "text": ">> McMongle. Come on."}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:56", "text": ">> How many could there have been back in"}, {"start": "02:04:55", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "the 60s?"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:00", "text": ">> I mean, potentially."}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:02", "text": ">> Potentially. So, so that that that would"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "be a great interview. He said that they"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "found out that we had the gift. There"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "was a total of six monks that they used."}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:13", "text": "Do you think he said right away we went"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "right to S4 primarily used in what what"}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "was the um the ally side of Germany? The"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "west. Yeah. East Berlin was the"}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:26", "text": "communist that they were used for"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:28", "text": "counter inelligence vetting or um um in"}, {"start": "02:05:26", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "in analyzing whether a someone was"}, {"start": "02:05:28", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "telling the government the truth. A"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "mole, an agent, counter intel, you name"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "it. um where documents were, where this"}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "person was, is this person leaking in"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:44", "text": "all kinds of counterintelligence"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "um work. He he and these these men were"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "used in West Germany by the government."}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "He said then um in in the 80s they were"}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "some of them were brought to S4"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:59", "text": ">> and were were um asked to do thought"}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "projection interviews with these beings."}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "And he said that him"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:04", "text": ">> he said that"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:06", "text": ">> him and another monk were very adept. He"}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "said that he would sit down and he was"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "talking about the his his his"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:11", "text": ">> and he said this to researcher friends"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "of yours"}, {"start": "02:06:11", "end": "02:06:15", "text": ">> one of our investigators not a somebody"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:15", "text": "I one of our investigators"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:18", "text": ">> okay"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:20", "text": ">> and he and I'm getting the story"}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:22", "text": "thirdand"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "said that he would his the other monk"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "was so good that he would sit down he"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "would start going like this to the"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "general okay you know that object you're"}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:32", "text": "looking at in the Indian Ocean he said"}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "that it's uh it's not that deep and that"}, {"start": "02:06:32", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "he was he the our monk was good. This"}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "guy was"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:39", "text": ">> like a a savant"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:41", "text": ">> next level."}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:43", "text": ">> One of the only things that he was"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "willing to talk about was how difficult"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "it was to to"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "relay or transfer back and forth basic"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "technical uh consu ideas. He said that"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "it took a a a couple of days um to I"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "know this is going to sound crazy but to"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "to to describe how human beings um live"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "in our time, seconds, minutes, days. The"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "being did not understand that. And the"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "monk said that they finally figured out"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "that that this type of alien use what's"}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "called time sequence. that they measure"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "time in their experiences layered on top"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "of each other."}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:29", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:30", "text": ">> I don't even know what I don't even know"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "what I'm saying,"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:36", "text": ">> but this is what was told to us. and he"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:37", "text": "was willing to to relieve relive that um"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "that piece of information and how"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "frustrating it was for him,"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:45", "text": ">> you know, to to um to"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:49", "text": ">> translate that"}, {"start": "02:07:45", "end": "02:07:50", "text": ">> to translate basic concepts um"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:52", "text": ">> of time"}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:54", "text": ">> of of of of other things too because"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "they could they were not verbal. The"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "beings were not were not verbal and and"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "that's and we've we got a picture of"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "him. I spent a year um negotiating with"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "the family for a lot to allow us to"}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "release it. We finally got them to allow"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "us to do an artist sketch of the photo."}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:15", "text": "He looks like an 80s Philadelphia gym"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:17", "text": "high school teacher with the 80s big"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:20", "text": "glasses. He's got one tooth longer than"}, {"start": "02:08:17", "end": "02:08:22", "text": "the big tooth. He's got the monk cassak"}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "on. He looks like he's in a Catholic"}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:26", "text": "school gymnasium background, you know,"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:28", "text": "with the with the lamin with the ply,"}, {"start": "02:08:26", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "you know, with the, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:08:28", "end": "02:08:31", "text": "mahogany plywood."}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:32", "text": ">> And he was a he was a communicator for"}, {"start": "02:08:31", "end": "02:08:34", "text": "the aliens,"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:35", "text": ">> thought projection communicator for the"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "for the beans."}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:37", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Time sequence."}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:42", "text": ">> And so he's he's passed now, I"}, {"start": "02:08:39", "end": "02:08:43", "text": ">> still living. He's 91 and he told we we"}, {"start": "02:08:42", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "our investigator went there 6 months"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:48", "text": "ago. Here's another bizarre story. Wait,"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "this Hold on. When he was old and he"}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "knows he said he's"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:52", "text": ">> Put it in the park for a second here."}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:53", "text": ">> Go ahead,"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:53", "text": ">> cuz I have something else to tell you."}, {"start": "02:08:53", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "That's"}, {"start": "02:08:53", "end": "02:08:57", "text": ">> You're telling me there's a guy a few"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "hours south of here that's living in a"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "monastery. The Charter House"}, {"start": "02:08:59", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "Transformational Monastery in Mount"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:07", "text": "Equinox, Vermont. Yes."}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:08", "text": ">> And and and I can I go there?"}, {"start": "02:09:07", "end": "02:09:09", "text": ">> They're not going to let you talk to"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:11", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:14", "text": ">> I don't Well, because they all take a v"}, {"start": "02:09:11", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "vow of silence. They You know, it's very"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "You should go. I'm not stopping anymore."}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:21", "text": ">> I'll take a vow of silence. Whoa. Vow of"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "silence is interesting, too. I just made"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "that connection"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:29", "text": ">> because the lack of sound and the lack"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "of speaking might heighten the"}, {"start": "02:09:29", "end": "02:09:32", "text": "telepathic senses."}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:34", "text": ">> What if that Joe McNogle said that he"}, {"start": "02:09:32", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "was the guy that outed him?"}, {"start": "02:09:34", "end": "02:09:37", "text": ">> I'm going to I'm going to ask Joe"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:39", "text": ">> have to."}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:41", "text": ">> Um, but I also want to take a road trip"}, {"start": "02:09:39", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "to Vermont."}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:43", "text": ">> Uh,"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:45", "text": ">> and I've shown the picture of him in my"}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "documentary. I just showed it on X. I'll"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "I'll give it to you again. Uh um can I"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "tell you another bizarre thing about"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "this? You should go to verify this."}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:10:00", "text": ">> My investigator says"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:02", "text": ">> strangest thing. This is a m a Christian"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "monastery."}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "There were two state troopers kind of"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "guarding the grounds in two white pickup"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:10", "text": "trucks. Where else do we see white"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "pickup trucks? I am not saying this to"}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:16", "text": "make an area 50. I am just saying"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:19", "text": ">> Broncos. Would you would you use the"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:21", "text": "discretion and the funds of the military"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "intelligence apparatus to hire Wacken"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:27", "text": "Hut, the same security at Area 51? Would"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "you use the same security to guard the"}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "perimeter of this monastery? I don't"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "know. I just find it interesting that"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "state police were there. Vermont state"}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "police and and two white pickup trucks"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "were there."}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:41", "text": ">> How fun for them that the people who"}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "know the most took a vow of silence like"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "that. It's also maybe"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:45", "text": ">> well I'm sure they talk to intelligence"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "about what they're being."}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:49", "text": ">> Do you know what I mean? But they're"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "like hey like let's get these guys. Not"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "only you know are they perfect telepaths"}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "because of their vow of silence but"}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:57", "text": "they're also you know they also won't"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:10:58", "text": "say a word."}, {"start": "02:10:57", "end": "02:11:01", "text": ">> And again I'm like how did they how did"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "a monk get to because Victor Victor says"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "the telepath program was a joke."}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:08", "text": ">> They were hiring people that were 1800"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "psychics practically."}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "again"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:14", "text": ">> when you are desperate like"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:16", "text": ">> no but that that was part of the program"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "initially with with not only Stargate"}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:20", "text": "but Center Lane and Sunstreak and Grill"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:22", "text": "Flame they went through a list of"}, {"start": "02:11:20", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "natural psychics before they started"}, {"start": "02:11:22", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "training the army to do it"}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:29", "text": ">> but I'm hearkening hearkenering back to"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "Bob Lazar when you are desperate you are"}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "the government and you need this"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "information you're gonna you're gonna do"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:38", "text": "desperate things you're gonna hire a Bob"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:40", "text": "Lazar you're gonna hire a Stan Deo"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "You're going to hire a Dan Burish that"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "you know all are have sketchy"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "educational backgrounds. You're going to"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:50", "text": "take a roll of the dice and one of the"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "one of the psychics was a was a telepath"}, {"start": "02:11:50", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "was a farmer that that condom was the"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:56", "text": "government. He was only in that this"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "program. This was told to me by the"}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "other by the widow of the other esport"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "telepath that they that they shoot him"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "out. There was a lot of in andout of"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "charlatans bas basically."}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:07", "text": ">> Wow. And um and so when you're"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "desperate, you're thinking out of the"}, {"start": "02:12:07", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "box. You're going to make desperate"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "moves. And and I think that's what"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "Victor's alluding to with hiring these"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:15", "text": ">> Yeah. and time."}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:16", "text": ">> Victor called it 1800 psychics. Right"}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "now,"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:22", "text": ">> um now Victor comes back in '08 and"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "says, \"We finally figured out what the"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "aliens were telling us and it ain't"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "good.\" And that's when Victor, I think"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "this is scary,"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:33", "text": ">> says to the documentary crew in '08,"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "don't plan on any 20th anniversary of"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:37", "text": "this documentary."}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:40", "text": ">> I might not be here, but I know you're"}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "not going to be here. 20 years from '08"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "is what would that be?"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:46", "text": ">> Almost 2027. Oh my."}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:51", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:53", "text": ">> 08. An alleged whistleblower from S4"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "says, \"Don't plan on a 20th"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "anniversary.\""}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Not a 30th"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:03", "text": ">> which is 20 27"}, {"start": "02:12:58", "end": "02:13:04", "text": ">> that is yeah that's that's and"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "02:13:04", "end": "02:13:06", "text": ">> do you need like do you need like a"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:08", "text": "Pepto-Bismol a mox"}, {"start": "02:13:06", "end": "02:13:10", "text": ">> no there's a lot of just information"}, {"start": "02:13:08", "end": "02:13:11", "text": "there's a lot of information in my head"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:14", "text": "right now you know obviously I shared"}, {"start": "02:13:11", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "with you and this is something um that"}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "I'm I don't I don't know in what order"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:21", "text": "this will go out if this podcast will go"}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "out first or the other one but we did"}, {"start": "02:13:21", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "have a gentleman here who had received"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "received some messages"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "um telepathically which once decoded"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "talked about some imminent invasion as"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "well or some imminent threat uh to this"}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "planet right you know and which coming"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "from like the Zeta star system also the"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:45", "text": "same system that Bob Lazar was briefed"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "on which was also at S4 which might be"}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:52", "text": "these beings like it all kind of ties in"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "perfectly and neatly and you know when"}, {"start": "02:13:52", "end": "02:13:56", "text": "something's tied in that neatly It's"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "either one by design or two. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:13:56", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "that's just the way it is, you know."}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:05", "text": ">> Thank you. So now, I mean, this is"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "obviously super super interesting, you"}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:10", "text": "know, hearing about all these people"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "that I didn't think"}, {"start": "02:14:10", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "were even would even be possible to get"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "their names, you know, because they're"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "just shadowy figures. And then you"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "intercept this email that drops all"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "these names. you're following up on"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "every sing I gotta say, John, you are"}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "pretty thorough and and hats off to you"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:29", "text": "for, you know, putting in the leg work."}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "I don't think a lot of people realize"}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:34", "text": "that when they, you know, you're very"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "vocal on X. Um, and and sometimes, you"}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:38", "text": "know, my apologies, maybe to a fault. I"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "think I think a lot of people get put"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "off by your uh personality because"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "they're not they don't have that"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "gumption to do the work, you know. So,"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:49", "text": "it's surprising. It catches people off"}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:53", "text": "guard, you know, because you don't see"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "that in a lot of today's generation. You"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "just don't see that, right? So, as Ralph"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "Blumenthal from the New York Times went,"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "you got out of your car and knocked on"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "his door."}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:04", "text": ">> I said, \"This is up all the president's"}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "men, you know,"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:07", "text": "Robert Redford and uh and uh yeah.\" I'm"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:09", "text": "like, \"Yes.\""}, {"start": "02:15:07", "end": "02:15:12", "text": ">> Yeah. You're dumb, baby."}, {"start": "02:15:09", "end": "02:15:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. You're uh you're Denzel"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:18", "text": "Washington in Man on Fire or whatever,"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": ">> right? Um, so yeah, hats off to to"}, {"start": "02:15:18", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "putting in the leg work. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "definitely. And I think that that needs"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "to be duly noted."}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:24", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:28", "text": ">> For anyone thinking this is like lazy"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "journalism or um you know uh anecdotal,"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:33", "text": "be that as it may, anecdotal evidence is"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "still valuable in my opinion. Um and the"}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:37", "text": "fact that you went out there and did all"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "this work might lead to a breakthrough"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "and that's really really really great."}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "So yeah, thank you for doing all this"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "work."}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:42", "text": ">> Welcome."}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:44", "text": ">> All right, let's go. Well, I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:15:42", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "tell you something that I've never"}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:49", "text": "stated publicly as I go into this story,"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "and I'm not saying this to be um sorry,"}, {"start": "02:15:49", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "can I cut you off? Sure. If you hear"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "anything, there is there's like a parade"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "going on out here for like Christmas or"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:00", "text": "something. I don't know. But there you"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "might not even pick it up in the edits."}, {"start": "02:16:00", "end": "02:16:05", "text": "We might, you know, use some AI to"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "whatever. But if you do that, it's rest"}, {"start": "02:16:05", "end": "02:16:07", "text": "assured it's none of this. And"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:09", "text": ">> you know, my wife would say, my wife"}, {"start": "02:16:07", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "would say, \"Well, of course there's a"}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "parade right outside. You got John"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "Stewart here.\" you know what can go"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "wrong is going to go wrong."}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:17", "text": ">> All right, let's go."}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:18", "text": ">> No, so I what I'm about to say I've"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "never said publicly"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:22", "text": ">> and you deserve that because you know I"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "really respect your show and and bring"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "me out here. I I I really appreciate and"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:30", "text": "and I'm not saying this to hype up the"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "drama. I I I I think this story very"}, {"start": "02:16:30", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "this very quick part of the story um uh"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:42", "text": "should be told because I think it gives"}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "a little bit of um it it adds this tone"}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "of this is no longer,"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:51", "text": "you know, happy golucky former pro"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "wrestler car dealer, you know, going to"}, {"start": "02:16:51", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "find an alien and and prove an alien"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "video and and and I was wrong. But my"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:05", "text": "but the the mentality that I had um what"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "I'm about to tell you was very real to"}, {"start": "02:17:05", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "me and other people were feeding this"}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "beware. So um and so I just want to say"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "that I don't want people to think, oh,"}, {"start": "02:17:13", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "he's telling the story for it. No, I'm"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:20", "text": "not. I want to be completely and utterly"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "honest and how how kind of scary things"}, {"start": "02:17:20", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "did get for me at times. So, I have all"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:28", "text": "this information, what I've just told"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "you, the names, the the phone calls. I"}, {"start": "02:17:28", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "said, I think I have enough legs to take"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:36", "text": "this to Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie"}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "Keane of the New York Times"}, {"start": "02:17:36", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "who who were stringers, you know,"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:42", "text": "part-time reporters, um, who could"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:44", "text": "submit stories. Ralph certainly was"}, {"start": "02:17:42", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "full-time at one time. They broke the 17"}, {"start": "02:17:44", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "Lu Alazando"}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "ATIP story and I emailed Ralph and he"}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "put me in contact with Leslie Keane and"}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:18:01", "text": "um they were uh much to my amazement"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:04", "text": "they were impressed enough where they"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:07", "text": "agreed to meet with me at the Midtown"}, {"start": "02:18:04", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "Hilton in in Manhattan. Okay,"}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:14", "text": ">> I got a meeting and so I am telling some"}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "UFO luminaries"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "and and whatnot and some of my uh"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "investigators or helpers who are all"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "like, \"Le, you're going to meet Leslie"}, {"start": "02:18:22", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "Keen in New York. You you know who"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "Leslie is?\" I'm like, \"No, I I I don't.\""}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "And I don't mean to be I am not being"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:35", "text": "derogatory at all. I am just telling you"}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:38", "text": "the story. nothing happened. But I I"}, {"start": "02:18:35", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "want to tell this story because this"}, {"start": "02:18:38", "end": "02:18:43", "text": "story is about me, too. And I don't mean"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:46", "text": "ego me, but you know, I'm the the doofus"}, {"start": "02:18:43", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "that's trying to figure this out."}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:50", "text": ">> And they're telling me she's"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:53", "text": ">> with intel. And if she's not with intel,"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:55", "text": "they're following her. They monitor. She"}, {"start": "02:18:53", "end": "02:18:57", "text": "leaks stuff to them. So, they leak stuff"}, {"start": "02:18:55", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "to her. And it's kind of a symbiotic"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "relationship. then you're going to go"}, {"start": "02:18:59", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "meet Leslie Keane because you can give"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "her the names of that video and you're"}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:09", "text": "going to expose those. You're freaking"}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "nuts. And they worked on me. My own"}, {"start": "02:19:09", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "people worked on me so much that I"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:18", "text": "literally cased the Hilton for an hour"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "eating a PA sandwich on the corner to"}, {"start": "02:19:18", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "see if anybody was,"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:26", "text": ">> you know, if this thing hotel was being"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:28", "text": "monitored, stalked. And I actually w"}, {"start": "02:19:26", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "when I got into my room it my my"}, {"start": "02:19:28", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "mentality you know this is my Paul"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "Benowitz breakdown scene for you know"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:38", "text": "that happened just for a little bit my"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:40", "text": "the scenario and I took a wet towel and"}, {"start": "02:19:38", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "I put it underneath the door. I don't"}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "know do they have smoke that could I"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:48", "text": "don't know my mind was was racing and um"}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "and of course nothing happened and"}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "Leslie could not have been nicer and her"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "and Ralph show up with COVID masks on."}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:19:57", "text": "They look like uh Thelma and Ned from"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "Atoma, Iowa, walking in the Midtown. I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:57", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "like, I'm worried about getting"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:04", "text": "assassinated. But that is that was the"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "one of the lowest parts of the"}, {"start": "02:20:04", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "investigation. They have that feeling"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "like what do you think? This is a game."}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:14", "text": "Men have been killed to protect this"}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "secret. This secret that you're trying"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:19", "text": "to expose. And not only the secret, you"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "you're gonna you're gonna if they did"}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "the story, you're gonna have LOL Jack's"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "name in the New York Times out of your"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "freaking mind. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:30", "text": ">> So that's how scary it got for me. And I"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "never told that story. And of course, I"}, {"start": "02:20:30", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "don't indict Leslie for anything. Later"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "on, I I will tell a story about her."}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:40", "text": ">> And Ralph and Leslie, we spent three"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "hours, we had lunch, and then about an"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "hour and a half into it, Ralph was like,"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:47", "text": "\"Stop."}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "We we we believe you. You got enough for"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "us to take to the science editor. That's"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:53", "text": "the process. Something like this. Aliens"}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "take to the science editor."}, {"start": "02:20:53", "end": "02:21:00", "text": ">> Um if one you can do one thing, get"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:03", "text": "somebody in uniform, get somebody with"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:06", "text": "the government to come forward to say we"}, {"start": "02:21:03", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "have craft, we have a retention program."}, {"start": "02:21:06", "end": "02:21:10", "text": "And I'm like never going to happen. this"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:12", "text": "this is not g, you know, we parted"}, {"start": "02:21:10", "end": "02:21:15", "text": "peacefully and happily and they were"}, {"start": "02:21:12", "end": "02:21:17", "text": "very kind to me. They were um Leslie was"}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:19", "text": "going to go fake an illness to go to"}, {"start": "02:21:17", "end": "02:21:21", "text": "this cardiologist in Connecticut before"}, {"start": "02:21:19", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "we knew he was Craig McFar. I mean, they"}, {"start": "02:21:21", "end": "02:21:25", "text": "were into it. I mean, Ralph and I"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:26", "text": "remember one time Ralph was sitting"}, {"start": "02:21:25", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "there like this"}, {"start": "02:21:26", "end": "02:21:30", "text": ">> like plotting"}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:32", "text": ">> how to help me"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:33", "text": ">> disseminate, break down the story. It's"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:33", "text": "a"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:34", "text": ">> big story."}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:39", "text": ">> Big story."}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "And so, um,"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "four months later, my wife said, \"You"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "got to come downstairs. This guy's on"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "Congress testifying that we had to have"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "pilots.\""}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:52", "text": ">> Yeah. David Grush."}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:54", "text": ">> And there's David Grush. And I'm going,"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:57", "text": "\"Holy [ __ ] I'm going to I'm gonna be"}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "this story. My story is going to be in"}, {"start": "02:21:57", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "the New York Times.\" And and I to this"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "day don't know why Ralph and Leslie"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "did not at least broach this to say we"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:15", "text": "have got a"}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:18", "text": "you know a an officer with the Air Force"}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "telling you that we've got pilots"}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:23", "text": ">> craft there's reverse engineering with"}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "the craft are pilots"}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:26", "text": ">> this might be a pilot and it I think it"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "goes back to"}, {"start": "02:22:26", "end": "02:22:29", "text": ">> a"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:30", "text": "unable to metabolize this."}, {"start": "02:22:29", "end": "02:22:32", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:34", "text": ">> David Gush didn't say that video is"}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "real. And that is my quest right now is"}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:40", "text": "to find someone just got out is in the"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "military, somebody from the agent of"}, {"start": "02:22:40", "end": "02:22:47", "text": "disclosure to look at that video and say"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "that's fake. This is why or that's real"}, {"start": "02:22:47", "end": "02:22:51", "text": "and and this is and this is why. But"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "that's was a very low turning point in"}, {"start": "02:22:51", "end": "02:22:55", "text": "in my life when I was so afraid and"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "paranoid. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:22:55", "end": "02:23:00", "text": ">> That I thought somebody was going to do"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "harm to me. I then get Scott Walter of"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:04", "text": "American on Earth. It's a great story."}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:06", "text": "He's like, I've been communicating with"}, {"start": "02:23:04", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "this agent from the National Air and"}, {"start": "02:23:06", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "Space Intelligence Center at Wright"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "Patty. Have you ever heard of this?"}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:15", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:17", "text": ">> Yeah. And um we vetted him. He's legit."}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:19", "text": "He showed us all our credentials. like"}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "Scott, you got to put me in contact."}, {"start": "02:23:19", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "This is the guy that will, you know,"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:25", "text": "because he wants disclosure. This this"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "guy and he calls himself Holden from"}, {"start": "02:23:25", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "catcher catch22. Somebody almost outered"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "him five years ago. Got his picture. But"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:37", "text": "so after about six months, I finally get"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:40", "text": "a hold right before Thanksgiving. I get"}, {"start": "02:23:37", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "a hold of this secret agent from the All"}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "right, Pat National Air and Space"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:47", "text": "Intelligence Center. Very polite, very"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "intelligent, nicest guy in the world. I"}, {"start": "02:23:47", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "just want to say, Chris, every military"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:55", "text": "intelligence person that I've ever spoke"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "with, I the government hires some really"}, {"start": "02:23:55", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "quality people. I'm complimenting the"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "government. It's I very nice, polite."}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:03", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:06", "text": ">> it's part of the trade craft."}, {"start": "02:24:03", "end": "02:24:08", "text": ">> So, I finally after I I'm an expediter."}, {"start": "02:24:06", "end": "02:24:10", "text": "I do things in seconds and minutes, but"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "the stock market, the car business, I'm"}, {"start": "02:24:10", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "not good at waiting and but I did. So, I"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:17", "text": "finally get a hold of him. We finally"}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "talked a couple days before Thanksgiving"}, {"start": "02:24:17", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "and um he said, \"Well, I you know, I"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:24", "text": "can't tell you everything.\" And he I"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:27", "text": "said, \"You've seen the video.\" He goes,"}, {"start": "02:24:24", "end": "02:24:30", "text": "\"I have.\" I said, \"You told Scott Walter"}, {"start": "02:24:27", "end": "02:24:32", "text": "that it was real.\" He said, \"I did.\""}, {"start": "02:24:30", "end": "02:24:34", "text": "Said, \"I just want to let you know that"}, {"start": "02:24:32", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "the government does have a black, you"}, {"start": "02:24:34", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "know, ops magic department. Um they had"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:41", "text": "one on the West Coast at Lookout"}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:43", "text": "Mountain, I believe, in the 60s for"}, {"start": "02:24:41", "end": "02:24:46", "text": "their missile testing."}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "This is not uncommon for the government"}, {"start": "02:24:46", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "to leak something but recreate it so"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:54", "text": "they're not violating national security."}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "They're not violating this deep secret"}, {"start": "02:24:54", "end": "02:24:59", "text": "so they can say we we tried to tell you."}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:02", "text": "We tried to show you this."}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:05", "text": ">> And just like Greer um this Holden said"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:08", "text": "just don't be saddened if that does"}, {"start": "02:25:05", "end": "02:25:10", "text": "become the case. Um he said they'll even"}, {"start": "02:25:08", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "get actors to look like that military"}, {"start": "02:25:10", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "person that should have been there at"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:17", "text": "that time. He said they're very very"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "very elaborate. He goes, \"But that being"}, {"start": "02:25:17", "end": "02:25:21", "text": "looks awfully authentic to me.\" He's"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:23", "text": "like, \"I just want to tell you a couple"}, {"start": "02:25:21", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "of things about them. The the the film"}, {"start": "02:25:23", "end": "02:25:30", "text": "on the eye that is a light deflector and"}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:32", "text": "it is a biofilm. It's a biological. It's"}, {"start": "02:25:30", "end": "02:25:35", "text": "not, you know, cellulo, you know, or"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:37", "text": "it's an actual biioaterial. Well, it"}, {"start": "02:25:35", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "does come off and that's something I can"}, {"start": "02:25:37", "end": "02:25:40", "text": "tell you. He goes, \"But I I I you know,"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:42", "text": "Scott said you're a good guy. I want to"}, {"start": "02:25:40", "end": "02:25:45", "text": "tell you something that I haven't even"}, {"start": "02:25:42", "end": "02:25:48", "text": "told Scott.\" No one no one on the"}, {"start": "02:25:45", "end": "02:25:49", "text": "internet has ever said this before. And"}, {"start": "02:25:48", "end": "02:25:52", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay, what is he?\" He goes,"}, {"start": "02:25:49", "end": "02:25:54", "text": "\"And I will tell you.\" He goes, \"If you"}, {"start": "02:25:52", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "want to make a general drinking his"}, {"start": "02:25:54", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "coffee in the morning spit up, tell him"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "this. The new designation, this was"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "three years ago, the new designation of"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:07", "text": "aliens is saber. I'm like, like the"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "sword? He's like, yes, saber. I said,"}, {"start": "02:26:07", "end": "02:26:11", "text": "what does that stand for? He goes,"}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "synthetic astrobiological"}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "extraterrestrial races. He goes, now he"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:21", "text": "was telling me this. Now, this is"}, {"start": "02:26:18", "end": "02:26:24", "text": ">> astrobiological. Yeah, this this I'm not"}, {"start": "02:26:21", "end": "02:26:29", "text": "getting melodramatic here, but this was"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:33", "text": "um he was helping me getting in with"}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "other intel people like I know things to"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "let me into your circle, let me into the"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "clubhouse. He was giving me"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:43", "text": ">> this hyperbolic"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:45", "text": ">> um acronym that"}, {"start": "02:26:43", "end": "02:26:46", "text": ">> to this day I've never found out. I'm"}, {"start": "02:26:45", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "the only one that has ever said this, so"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:50", "text": "he must have been true that this was a"}, {"start": "02:26:48", "end": "02:26:51", "text": "new designation"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:52", "text": ">> synthetic"}, {"start": "02:26:51", "end": "02:26:55", "text": ">> astrobiological"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:57", "text": "extraterrestrial races saber. He goes,"}, {"start": "02:26:55", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "\"I am telling you, you mentioned that.\""}, {"start": "02:26:57", "end": "02:27:01", "text": "He said, \"You mentioned that at a"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "Starbucks in Georgetown and a twostar"}, {"start": "02:27:01", "end": "02:27:06", "text": "general is there. He's going to do the"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:09", "text": "spit take.\" I said, \"I I I said I said,"}, {"start": "02:27:06", "end": "02:27:11", "text": "um, I I really appreciate.\" I said, \"But"}, {"start": "02:27:09", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "Ralph and Leslie of the New York Times,"}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:16", "text": "I I need you on camera to tell me this"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:18", "text": "program is real.\""}, {"start": "02:27:16", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "He said, \"I'd be willing to do it, but"}, {"start": "02:27:18", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "you got to get it past my commanding"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:23", "text": "officer."}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:26", "text": "I have put this on Reddit. I've put this"}, {"start": "02:27:23", "end": "02:27:29", "text": "on my on on on other platforms."}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "I developed a list of questions for him."}, {"start": "02:27:29", "end": "02:27:34", "text": "So explosive, so hyperbolic. But if I"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "was going to interview him, I wanted to"}, {"start": "02:27:34", "end": "02:27:40", "text": "get the truth. I agreed in this form to"}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "his commanding officer that he would be"}, {"start": "02:27:40", "end": "02:27:45", "text": "silhouetted. We could voice the sort him"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "just like Victor. But nonetheless, I had"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:48", "text": "to get answers to these questions. When"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "was the first contact with"}, {"start": "02:27:48", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "extraterrestrials?"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:54", "text": "Was it before the 1800s?"}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "Does the United States government in"}, {"start": "02:27:54", "end": "02:27:59", "text": "their possession any any type of"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "biological being offplanet interstellar"}, {"start": "02:27:59", "end": "02:28:06", "text": "interdimensional um uh any any of the"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:08", "text": "type living or deceased? What are some"}, {"start": "02:28:06", "end": "02:28:10", "text": "of the facilities housing these beings"}, {"start": "02:28:08", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "if they have these beings I mean"}, {"start": "02:28:10", "end": "02:28:14", "text": "explosive"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "I gave it sent it to his commanding"}, {"start": "02:28:14", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "officer at Wright Pat and he gave me a"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "code for his commanding officer. Now I'm"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "in the milit, you know, like and I still"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "don't. It was like an acronym and the"}, {"start": "02:28:23", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "fax number."}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "Okay. A week, two weeks, three weeks. I"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:34", "text": "email him. We were emailing each other"}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "on Signal."}, {"start": "02:28:34", "end": "02:28:37", "text": "I call Scott Walter. I'm like, \"Dude,"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:39", "text": "have you heard from Holden?\" He's like,"}, {"start": "02:28:37", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "\"No, I haven't.\" I'm like, \"He hasn't.\""}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:42", "text": "It's like, \"John, this he he's always"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:45", "text": "doing something."}, {"start": "02:28:42", "end": "02:28:49", "text": "Take it's going to take some time.\" Six"}, {"start": "02:28:45", "end": "02:28:51", "text": "weeks go by. F seven weeks go by. I'm"}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "like, Scott, am I in trouble here? This"}, {"start": "02:28:51", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "is really starting to freak me out. This"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:58", "text": "guy was calling me. He has not returned"}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:29:00", "text": "my email after this explosive thing."}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "Scott's like, just please you just bear"}, {"start": "02:29:00", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "with me. About about two months go by."}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "And I finally said to Scott, I'm sorry."}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "This is ridiculous."}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:14", "text": "I need to know if and I am texting this"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "Holden. Am I in trouble? What? Why won't"}, {"start": "02:29:14", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "you just tell me? Go fly a kite, buzz"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "off or whatnot. Scott go, I I agree."}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:25", "text": "This is ridiculous. He said he would try"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "and help you. I'm going to call him."}, {"start": "02:29:25", "end": "02:29:31", "text": "About a half hour after Scott Walter"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "told me this, I get this is this happy,"}, {"start": "02:29:31", "end": "02:29:39", "text": "kind, gental person from the NISC"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "who is nicer than nice. I get this text"}, {"start": "02:29:39", "end": "02:29:43", "text": "and you could just tell that somebody"}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:46", "text": "was standing over him. You're gonna"}, {"start": "02:29:43", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "write this and you better write this."}, {"start": "02:29:46", "end": "02:29:52", "text": "Don't ever contact me again. You are to"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:54", "text": "destroy all of our communications. You"}, {"start": "02:29:52", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "are to destroy your notes of our"}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "communications. I am um denying anything"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:03", "text": "that I told you about anything to do um"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "with extraterrestrials or the program. I"}, {"start": "02:30:03", "end": "02:30:07", "text": "know I have no knowledge of this program"}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:09", "text": "or no authority to tell you anything."}, {"start": "02:30:07", "end": "02:30:13", "text": "Um, and you because of your foyer"}, {"start": "02:30:09", "end": "02:30:15", "text": "request. I never told him I did crazy"}, {"start": "02:30:13", "end": "02:30:18", "text": "foyer request of the Dan Burrus"}, {"start": "02:30:15", "end": "02:30:20", "text": "documents to the DIA. I never told him"}, {"start": "02:30:18", "end": "02:30:23", "text": "this, Chris. And because of your reoer"}, {"start": "02:30:20", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "request, you are now on a special watch"}, {"start": "02:30:23", "end": "02:30:29", "text": "list of the DoD. Boom."}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:32", "text": ">> Whoa. And and I was like, \"Oh, this"}, {"start": "02:30:29", "end": "02:30:34", "text": "nice, you know, nice Chris Ramsay is all"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "of a sudden is like I'm like you could"}, {"start": "02:30:34", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "just tell"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:39", "text": ">> Yeah. He was somebody forced his hand.\""}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:41", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "And um so"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:45", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:49", "text": ">> Yeah. So, uh you know, I knew that."}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:51", "text": ">> When was this? How how many years ago?"}, {"start": "02:30:49", "end": "02:30:54", "text": ">> 20 Well, it was right 23."}, {"start": "02:30:51", "end": "02:30:57", "text": ">> I Ralph and Leslie was August. When did"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "Grush come forward? 23 of of I. So Ralph"}, {"start": "02:30:57", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "and Leslie was August. So this was"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:03", "text": "Thanksgivingish 2023."}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:07", "text": ">> And when I got that, my hand was"}, {"start": "02:31:03", "end": "02:31:09", "text": "shaking. I'm like, how does he know"}, {"start": "02:31:07", "end": "02:31:11", "text": ">> that I did a foyer request? I did one"}, {"start": "02:31:09", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "from the to the Department of Defense"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "asking for Coen Powell's travel schedule"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:18", "text": "at this time of this filming."}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:21", "text": ">> Okay. And I sent one to the DIA"}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:24", "text": "asking and I want to talk about this"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "about the Q94109A"}, {"start": "02:31:24", "end": "02:31:30", "text": "document that Dan Burrus brought forward"}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "of the extraction of tissue with the"}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:36", "text": "with the pressurized gun because of the"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:38", "text": "the neuropathy that JRod had. I sent"}, {"start": "02:31:36", "end": "02:31:41", "text": "that I want all the information for this"}, {"start": "02:31:38", "end": "02:31:44", "text": "document. Now I contacted Richard Dodie"}, {"start": "02:31:41", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "and Dodie said, \"Do you realize what you"}, {"start": "02:31:44", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "sent the DIA?\" He goes, \"I don't know"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:51", "text": "what if that document is real, but that"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:55", "text": "is a code.\" Dodie said, \"John, every"}, {"start": "02:31:51", "end": "02:31:59", "text": "area at S4 at Nellis test and training"}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "range has a designation, an alpha, an"}, {"start": "02:31:59", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "alpha designation. Romeo, Quebec, um,"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "Delta, Bravo.\" He goes, \"Que is the"}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "section of S4."}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "uh 94 is the year that this document was"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "created and 109 is the you know"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "obviously some kind of"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:19", "text": ">> department"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:22", "text": ">> department cataloging or whatever number"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "this document Dodie goes you sent that"}, {"start": "02:32:22", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "to the DIA and he I said yeah"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:32", "text": ">> he goes give me a give me a few days"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:34", "text": "calls me back and he said uh we got a"}, {"start": "02:32:32", "end": "02:32:35", "text": "little bit of an issue he goes I'm"}, {"start": "02:32:34", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "talking to somebody at DNI he's a friend"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:40", "text": "of mine at the DIA um about other"}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "things. And I said, \"You don't happen to"}, {"start": "02:32:40", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "know John Stewart?\" And and and and uh"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:49", "text": "Rick said I I said uh Rick asked him,"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "\"You don't happen to know John Stewart?\""}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:55", "text": "And Rick said, \"John, just calm down.\""}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:58", "text": "He said, \"The guy went, \"Oh, we know"}, {"start": "02:32:55", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "John Stewart very well.\""}, {"start": "02:32:58", "end": "02:33:05", "text": "His foyer request sent trip this quote"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "trip flares up in our agency. He goes,"}, {"start": "02:33:05", "end": "02:33:11", "text": "\"Rick, this guy is sending us stuff that"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "we don't we've never even we've never"}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:17", "text": "even had to um to look for. This is like"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:19", "text": "a first time ever what he sent us.\" He"}, {"start": "02:33:17", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "wouldn't tell Rick what I what I sent"}, {"start": "02:33:19", "end": "02:33:23", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "Now, after this interaction, I call the"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "DIA. I am friends with Cheryl Cross"}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "Robinson who was head of information of"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "DIA. It's Ray. It's Uncle John. How you"}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "doing? you know, she's like, \"Oh, I have"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "the stories of you with you're the alien"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:39", "text": "guy.\" It was that informal, but I get"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "this guy named Andrew on the phone. I"}, {"start": "02:33:39", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "said, \"I sent a Rafoya request couple of"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "months ago. I have not heard anything"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:47", "text": "about it.\" He said, \"Okay, what's your"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "name?\" John Stewart. And he went, \"Hm.\""}, {"start": "02:33:47", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "And I get this. I've gotten this a lot."}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "He goes, \"Well, this is strange.\" I"}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:54", "text": "said, \"What's what's the problem?\" He"}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:56", "text": "said, \"Um, your name is on our file"}, {"start": "02:33:54", "end": "02:33:58", "text": "logging system, but there's no file"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:00", "text": "attached to your name.\" I said, \"What's"}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "the problem with that?\" He doesn't know."}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:06", "text": "I could be asking about an antenna relay"}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:08", "text": "at Esport or Area 51."}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:10", "text": ">> Again, doesn't know what I'm talking"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:13", "text": "about. He goes, \"Well, you can't get on"}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:17", "text": "this file foyer file system.\" This is"}, {"start": "02:34:13", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "Andrew at the DIA foil foyer department"}, {"start": "02:34:17", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "without having a file attached. Somebody"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "had to come in and remove it. This was"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "said to me. I said, \"Okay.\" He goes,"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:27", "text": "\"Let me do some digging for you. I'll"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "find out what happened.\" Goes, \"I don't"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:30", "text": "know how this happened. You you have to"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:33", "text": "have a file."}, {"start": "02:34:30", "end": "02:34:35", "text": ">> Somebody removed it for whatever reason."}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:38", "text": ">> I get a call back in about 30 minutes."}, {"start": "02:34:35", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "Now it's like colden. Mr. Stewart. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:45", "text": "This is Andrew the DIA. Hi. What's going"}, {"start": "02:34:41", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "on? Yeah. So, uh you know um we found"}, {"start": "02:34:45", "end": "02:34:50", "text": "your request. You're going to get a"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:52", "text": "email um from the uh information officer"}, {"start": "02:34:50", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "and then you're going to get a hard copy"}, {"start": "02:34:52", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "and uh and then that's that's the end of"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "it. And that's you know. I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "who's who took my file off?\" I said, \"I"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "don't know.\" He goes, \"But this is what"}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "I've been told, and you're going to get"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "the information. You're going to get an"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "email in a in a few minutes.\" I get this"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:09", "text": "email"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:11", "text": "from the DIA, but in the the the body of"}, {"start": "02:35:09", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "the email says, \"Due to the unique"}, {"start": "02:35:11", "end": "02:35:15", "text": "nature of your foyer request, we are"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "going to have to conduct interdep"}, {"start": "02:35:15", "end": "02:35:20", "text": "departmental conferences and meetings to"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:22", "text": "discuss the way we are going to"}, {"start": "02:35:20", "end": "02:35:23", "text": "disseminate this information to you.\""}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:25", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "02:35:23", "end": "02:35:27", "text": ">> like like they're going to, you know,"}, {"start": "02:35:25", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "the the DIA is going to go over to the"}, {"start": "02:35:27", "end": "02:35:30", "text": "NSA to the DoD and they're going to be"}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:33", "text": "around a conference room with bagels and"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:38", "text": "coffee talking about me and my crazy"}, {"start": "02:35:33", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "request and um and and you know, you"}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "know, you're treading on this water of"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:46", "text": "like Jesus, is is the rug going to be"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:47", "text": "pulled out? Am I really poking um"}, {"start": "02:35:46", "end": "02:35:49", "text": ">> the nest"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:51", "text": ">> the the hornets's nest? You know, am I"}, {"start": "02:35:49", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "getting myself into in in into in"}, {"start": "02:35:51", "end": "02:35:55", "text": "trouble? And everybody wants to talk"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "about Rick Dodie. Rick Dodie has told me"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:01", "text": "nothing about this film. And he's either"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:03", "text": "protecting Victor or protecting the"}, {"start": "02:36:01", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "entire program. Yes. He said, \"Look, I"}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:07", "text": "know we have an extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:09", "text": "retention and interrogation program.\" He"}, {"start": "02:36:07", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "goes, \"John, that is the unofficial name"}, {"start": "02:36:09", "end": "02:36:12", "text": "of it. I can tell you that.\""}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:14", "text": ">> He goes, \"But I was never down at the"}, {"start": "02:36:12", "end": "02:36:16", "text": "third and fourth level, a counter"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "intelligence agent. Is he telling you he"}, {"start": "02:36:16", "end": "02:36:22", "text": "wasn't somewhere?\" and Dodie. Dodie, one"}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "thing I I I I respect and and can tell"}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:30", "text": "about Dodie is same with Victor. There"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "is reticence and um um I I want to get"}, {"start": "02:36:30", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "you the right the right um"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "I had it somewhere. Perception"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:40", "text": "receptors, which is Dodie has never said"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "to me, look, I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "honestly, we have an alien program,"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "Victor. Um I'm not going to lie to you."}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:50", "text": "Yes, this was a real alien. Those are"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "perception recept that people that liars"}, {"start": "02:36:50", "end": "02:36:55", "text": "use those pre-qualifiers. Dodie and"}, {"start": "02:36:52", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "Victor have never never said that. If if"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "anything, Richard Dodie and Victor have"}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:37:02", "text": "been reticent. I don't know. I'm not"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "sure. I wasn't briefed in on that. I"}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:07", "text": "can't tell you those according to the"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "FBI agent and to the Reed School police"}, {"start": "02:37:07", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "officers is hallmarks of someone telling"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:14", "text": "you the truth, which we tal you and I"}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:16", "text": "talked off camera. Truth tellers are"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "they they limit their information. And"}, {"start": "02:37:16", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "it's what are you asking me? I will tell"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "you there is no more there's no drama to"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:24", "text": "it. They don't um they don't flourish."}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "They don't"}, {"start": "02:37:24", "end": "02:37:28", "text": ">> they don't build upon information to"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "convince you that that it's that it's"}, {"start": "02:37:28", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "truth. And that that is something that I"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "was very impressed with Richard Dodie."}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "What he didn't tell me that he did not"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "know whether that was truth. That's yeah"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "that's a that's a hot topic you know"}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "Richard Dodie in this space because"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:45", "text": "anybody whether it's William Moore"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:47", "text": "Richard Dodie or even you know as recent"}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "as Lou Alzando anytime you're involved"}, {"start": "02:37:47", "end": "02:37:53", "text": "with counter intelligence the red flags"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:56", "text": "uh you know and and and skepticism about"}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:57", "text": "these people's uh you know agendas start"}, {"start": "02:37:56", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "popping up"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:01", "text": ">> but what do you do when a tell you a"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "counter intelligence agent tells you I"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "don't know"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:05", "text": ">> right no"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:07", "text": ">> that's help me no this is this is not an"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:08", "text": "interview this is Hey, dialogue. Help"}, {"start": "02:38:07", "end": "02:38:09", "text": "me. What? I don't know what to do with"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:10", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:11", "text": ">> No. Yeah. I I"}, {"start": "02:38:10", "end": "02:38:14", "text": ">> Is that Is that another counter"}, {"start": "02:38:11", "end": "02:38:16", "text": "intelligence aspect?"}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:16", "text": ">> Tell them you don't know. Then that"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "sounds like"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:20", "text": ">> But I mean, potentially. I don't know."}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "You know, that's the keep keeping an"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:23", "text": "keeping an open mind to all of that is"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:25", "text": "definitely the way to go and just kind"}, {"start": "02:38:23", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "of absorbing the information."}, {"start": "02:38:25", "end": "02:38:28", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:30", "text": ">> all right. I want to I want to talk"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "about this for a second."}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:34", "text": ">> Um, you know, you had tweeted out that"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:36", "text": "there's two things you can't talk about."}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "All right. And and I'm gonna I'm gonna"}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "push you a little bit on this."}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:39", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:42", "text": ">> Um you said one of the two things you"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "can't talk about was"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "um some timeline manipulation or"}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "something to that effect."}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:51", "text": ">> The future."}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Um what I gathered was project"}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "looking glass."}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:57", "text": ">> Why did you have to say that?"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:38:57", "text": ">> Am I not allowed to say that?"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:00", "text": ">> Is that is that something?"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:01", "text": ">> No, but you said it. I didn't say it. I"}, {"start": "02:39:00", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "said I said I have no idea what you're"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:07", "text": "talking about. It's what I gathered."}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "And the and and the second thing was"}, {"start": "02:39:07", "end": "02:39:09", "text": "other species,"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:11", "text": ">> correct?"}, {"start": "02:39:09", "end": "02:39:13", "text": ">> Other species of aliens specifically or"}, {"start": "02:39:11", "end": "02:39:14", "text": "or non-human intelligence."}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:17", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "02:39:14", "end": "02:39:21", "text": ">> Um you had said and and I think this is"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "your words, my intelligence handlers."}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:26", "text": ">> Now, of course, I'm poking people out"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:27", "text": "there. Oh, I knew he's CIA."}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:28", "text": ">> Well, they're my adviserss."}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:31", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:33", "text": ">> Helpers. Is Richard Dodie one of those"}, {"start": "02:39:31", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "helpers?"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:36", "text": ">> Well, he's part of the one of the 11."}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:36", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:38", "text": ">> Well, wait a minute."}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:40", "text": ">> Well, I'm asking I'm trying to You're"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:42", "text": "giving I'm trying to give"}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:43", "text": ">> I had seven. It went to nine. I have 11."}, {"start": "02:39:42", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:47", "text": ">> Is Richard Dodie someone I I called for."}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:48", "text": "What does this mean? What does that"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "mean? Richard Dodie,"}, {"start": "02:39:48", "end": "02:39:50", "text": ">> was he the one to tell you not to talk"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:50", "text": "about these things?"}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:52", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely not."}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:53", "text": ">> Okay. That's that's what I want to know."}, {"start": "02:39:52", "end": "02:39:53", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:56", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:58", "text": ">> absolutely not."}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "The person telling you this is one"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:02", "text": "person"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:03", "text": ">> one person and another person."}, {"start": "02:40:02", "end": "02:40:04", "text": ">> So one person said"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:07", "text": ">> up what he said."}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:08", "text": ">> Oh okay. Um is this person active"}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:10", "text": "intelligence? No."}, {"start": "02:40:08", "end": "02:40:11", "text": ">> Okay. So former intelligence"}, {"start": "02:40:10", "end": "02:40:12", "text": ">> correct."}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:13", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:12", "end": "02:40:14", "text": ">> I I think"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:15", "text": ">> which department"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:16", "text": ">> I'm not going to say that."}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:17", "text": ">> Um okay."}, {"start": "02:40:16", "end": "02:40:19", "text": ">> Come on."}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:20", "text": ">> Well I I gota ask anyways. Hey. Can I go"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:23", "text": "ahead? No. Go ahead. I'm not gonna"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:25", "text": "interrupt you. Um,"}, {"start": "02:40:23", "end": "02:40:27", "text": "John Ramirez."}, {"start": "02:40:25", "end": "02:40:28", "text": ">> Don't know. Uh, never spoke with John"}, {"start": "02:40:27", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "Ramirez in my life. I know who he is."}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:30", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:31", "text": ">> Seems like a nice guy. Never spoke to"}, {"start": "02:40:30", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "him in my life."}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:34", "text": ">> Never spoke to him in your life."}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:36", "text": ">> Hand of God."}, {"start": "02:40:34", "end": "02:40:37", "text": ">> I never spoke with John Ramirez ever."}, {"start": "02:40:36", "end": "02:40:37", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:39", "text": ">> Like to."}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:40", "text": ">> All right. Um, John, he's great."}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:41", "text": ">> I'd like to."}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:44", "text": ">> He's very nice. He's very friendly and"}, {"start": "02:40:41", "end": "02:40:45", "text": "very open. Very uh I actually like John"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "a lot. Well, I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "02:40:45", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "something here"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "with talking about the future timelines"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:41:01", "text": ">> that is bringing me into this is my"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "opinion that is bringing me into talking"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:06", "text": "about technology. I am alive today in my"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "opinion without getting melodramatic. I"}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:12", "text": "think I am alive today."}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:16", "text": "um that the stalking has only been with"}, {"start": "02:41:12", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "my phone from the government because I"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:21", "text": "have no idea and have never talked about"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "and never given please listen to me"}, {"start": "02:41:21", "end": "02:41:28", "text": "anything to do with technology. That is"}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:30", "text": "all that the East Coast intelligence"}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "agencies care about at this point."}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:36", "text": ">> Who has technology? Will they give it to"}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "our enemies? Do they know something we"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:42", "text": "don't? And John Stewart has all my"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:43", "text": "emails they must have said this guy is"}, {"start": "02:41:42", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "talking about gray"}, {"start": "02:41:43", "end": "02:41:46", "text": ">> but specifically"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:48", "text": ">> so that is keeping me safe."}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:50", "text": ">> Yeah, but time travel is a concept."}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:51", "text": ">> I didn't say time travel. You did I said"}, {"start": "02:41:50", "end": "02:41:55", "text": "future."}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:57", "text": ">> Okay. Future Looking Glass time travel."}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:41:59", "text": ">> Well, I mean cuz Project Looking Glass"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:01", "text": "was one of the three projects that Bob"}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "Lazar was briefed on. He was briefed on"}, {"start": "02:42:01", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "Looking Glass, uh Sidekick, and Galileo."}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:10", "text": "Sidekick being, you know, weaponizing"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:12", "text": "the technology, Galileo, the propulsion,"}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:16", "text": "and looking glass, the manipulation or"}, {"start": "02:42:12", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "possibly the dilation of time in order"}, {"start": "02:42:16", "end": "02:42:21", "text": "to peer into the future, the past, some"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "other timeline, whatever it is. Now,"}, {"start": "02:42:21", "end": "02:42:25", "text": "what do you know about Looking Glass"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:26", "text": "that they don't want you to talk about?"}, {"start": "02:42:25", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "Or is it they just don't want you to say"}, {"start": "02:42:26", "end": "02:42:28", "text": "the word?"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:30", "text": ">> Are you kidding me?"}, {"start": "02:42:28", "end": "02:42:31", "text": ">> Well, I'm I'm I'm like, do you know"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "anything?"}, {"start": "02:42:31", "end": "02:42:36", "text": ">> No. What? No. Well, then well then why"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "would they be so afraid?"}, {"start": "02:42:36", "end": "02:42:38", "text": ">> I was going to I was going to explain."}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:41", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "02:42:38", "end": "02:42:46", "text": ">> two things. This is my opinion."}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:49", "text": "I think that these little tests"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "um or these little like um requests"}, {"start": "02:42:49", "end": "02:42:55", "text": ">> is more about can this guy keep his"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:55", "text": "mouth shut? Even something innocuous."}, {"start": "02:42:55", "end": "02:42:58", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:42:55", "end": "02:42:59", "text": ">> Even something that maybe"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:01", "text": ">> isn't even a big deal. I don't know if"}, {"start": "02:42:59", "end": "02:43:02", "text": "that program you talked about. I'm just"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "saying."}, {"start": "02:43:02", "end": "02:43:05", "text": ">> Okay. Can John Stewart keep his mouth"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:09", "text": "shut?"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:11", "text": ">> You tweeted it."}, {"start": "02:43:09", "end": "02:43:11", "text": ">> I didn't I didn't tweet that name, did"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "I?"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:15", "text": ">> Well, you pretty much you like bleeped"}, {"start": "02:43:13", "end": "02:43:15", "text": "out a few letters. I mean I mean but I"}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:17", "text": "didn't tweet that name."}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:18", "text": ">> I'm no king of Wheel of Fortune, but I"}, {"start": "02:43:17", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "mean"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:21", "text": ">> um but I've never talked about it at"}, {"start": "02:43:20", "end": "02:43:23", "text": "great length. What I Right."}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:24", "text": ">> You didn't in fact even prior to this"}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:26", "text": "you didn't mention it. Right."}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:28", "text": ">> I was the one to bring it up because I"}, {"start": "02:43:26", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "read the tweet and the tweet is you know"}, {"start": "02:43:28", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "it definitely points to that"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:34", "text": ">> and I remember the day it happened. it"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "was. Don't ever ask about it. And I am"}, {"start": "02:43:34", "end": "02:43:39", "text": "telling you, do not ever bring it up on"}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:42", "text": "any of your podcasts or whatnot. And I"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "don't want you talking about other um"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:47", "text": "species other than the grays. And if you"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "sick stick to the grays, you will be"}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "safe. I can guarantee it. And I have"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:58", "text": "done exactly that. And I find it funny."}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "Yes. I I come off as a very easygoing"}, {"start": "02:43:58", "end": "02:44:04", "text": "funny guy, Italian from Chicago, you"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "know, and and I but I believe that those"}, {"start": "02:44:04", "end": "02:44:10", "text": "who want to leak things and want"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:13", "text": "disclosure and drip drip and find nudge"}, {"start": "02:44:10", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "nicks like me, I believe that there are"}, {"start": "02:44:13", "end": "02:44:18", "text": "certain there that there is a if you"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:21", "text": "mention my name to in certain groups and"}, {"start": "02:44:18", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "intelligence factions of non-retired and"}, {"start": "02:44:21", "end": "02:44:27", "text": "and and current people in intelligence,"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:30", "text": "it is my opinion that it's the good guy."}, {"start": "02:44:27", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "John Stewart, good guy."}, {"start": "02:44:30", "end": "02:44:32", "text": ">> You can trust him."}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:34", "text": ">> What? What?"}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:35", "text": ">> I am trustworthy. Yeah. Tell me"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:37", "text": "something. I'm going to put it in the"}, {"start": "02:44:35", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "vault. I can't believe it cuz I am a I"}, {"start": "02:44:37", "end": "02:44:43", "text": "am a how I kept our You told me not to"}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:45", "text": "bleep talk about me coming on here. How"}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:48", "text": "I kept that. I have but but I've been"}, {"start": "02:44:45", "end": "02:44:51", "text": "I've been I'm I'm I've gotten good at"}, {"start": "02:44:48", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "not saying it. I I appreciate that, you"}, {"start": "02:44:51", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "know, and and I I will pry and feel free"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:58", "text": "to continue to to to not talk about it,"}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "but I I have to ask about"}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:00", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:04", "text": ">> but"}, {"start": "02:45:00", "end": "02:45:06", "text": ">> the idea if someone came to me and said,"}, {"start": "02:45:04", "end": "02:45:08", "text": ">> \"Don't talk about these two things,"}, {"start": "02:45:06", "end": "02:45:11", "text": "right? Don't talk about this one thing."}, {"start": "02:45:08", "end": "02:45:13", "text": "We'll call this project um and then"}, {"start": "02:45:11", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "don't talk about other species other"}, {"start": "02:45:13", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "than the grays and you'll be safe like"}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "this.\""}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:23", "text": ">> Direct quote. So, oh, direct quote."}, {"start": "02:45:19", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "Okay. So, this to me doesn't tell me"}, {"start": "02:45:23", "end": "02:45:27", "text": "that this to me tells me that there"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "there's a narrative forming."}, {"start": "02:45:27", "end": "02:45:31", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:32", "text": ">> And that that they want you to uphold"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:33", "text": "the narrative."}, {"start": "02:45:32", "end": "02:45:34", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:36", "text": ">> And it tells me that and it tells me"}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "that the narrative"}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:39", "text": ">> Are you being handled? Yes. To to some"}, {"start": "02:45:38", "end": "02:45:41", "text": "degree. Of course."}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:44", "text": ">> Well, it tells me that the narrative is"}, {"start": "02:45:41", "end": "02:45:46", "text": "a obviously uh looking glass is"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:52", "text": "important. Sorry. Jesus Christmas."}, {"start": "02:45:46", "end": "02:45:54", "text": ">> All right. Um, and B that"}, {"start": "02:45:52", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "I mean I don't know what to make of the"}, {"start": "02:45:54", "end": "02:46:01", "text": "other one. I I just I just find it"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "whether it's whether it's them trying to"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:05", "text": "create"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "you know this distance between us and"}, {"start": "02:46:05", "end": "02:46:11", "text": "the species"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "uh physically because you know the such"}, {"start": "02:46:11", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "a massive difference. But in reality,"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:18", "text": "you know, does is it because the other"}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:19", "text": "species"}, {"start": "02:46:18", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "are"}, {"start": "02:46:19", "end": "02:46:24", "text": "like us, you know, is it because that's"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:25", "text": "what's happening and that's what they"}, {"start": "02:46:24", "end": "02:46:27", "text": "want to cover? Is like the fact that"}, {"start": "02:46:25", "end": "02:46:29", "text": "they're here, they're like us, they look"}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:31", "text": "like us, they're around, or is it the"}, {"start": "02:46:29", "end": "02:46:33", "text": "fact that they're like bugs and they're"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:35", "text": "they're, you know, strange looking? Like"}, {"start": "02:46:33", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "what's the what do you think is the"}, {"start": "02:46:35", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "reason? Okay, we won't even talk about"}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:41", "text": "the other species. What do you think is"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:44", "text": "the reason for for them not wanting you"}, {"start": "02:46:41", "end": "02:46:44", "text": "to talk about them"}, {"start": "02:46:49", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "and I'll bleep out every looking glass"}, {"start": "02:46:52", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "that I put in this podcast if you like"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "whatever whatever you want to do. I I"}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "believe that um sticking with the grays"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:07", "text": "that it's possible that because they are"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:10", "text": "um potentially a biological android and"}, {"start": "02:47:07", "end": "02:47:12", "text": "maybe not as sentient as we like to"}, {"start": "02:47:10", "end": "02:47:18", "text": "think they are. They're part machine,"}, {"start": "02:47:12", "end": "02:47:21", "text": "part biological makeup that they are um"}, {"start": "02:47:18", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "uh less of a less of a visual and"}, {"start": "02:47:21", "end": "02:47:26", "text": "perceived threat, if that makes sense."}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:28", "text": "You know, it's it's sending out the"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:29", "text": "what's more scary, your Doberman"}, {"start": "02:47:28", "end": "02:47:31", "text": "pincher. I think this I'm I'm coming on"}, {"start": "02:47:29", "end": "02:47:34", "text": "a good analogy here or metaphor. Your"}, {"start": "02:47:31", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "Doberman pincher or your Roomba vacuum"}, {"start": "02:47:34", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "cleaner?"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:38", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:42", "text": ">> I'm just saying the Roomba vacuum"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:43", "text": "cleaner is it's a mechanical piece,"}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:45", "text": ">> right? You're saying you're saying it's"}, {"start": "02:47:43", "end": "02:47:47", "text": "a easier pill to swallow."}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:48", "text": ">> I I believe so. I think I I think that"}, {"start": "02:47:47", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "even"}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:52", "text": ">> Well, that would only be true if the"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:54", "text": "aliens were looked absolutely hideous"}, {"start": "02:47:52", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "like bugs, but not if they look like us,"}, {"start": "02:47:54", "end": "02:47:58", "text": ">> right? I I look I I I'm just simply"}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:00", "text": "telling you what I was instructed to do."}, {"start": "02:47:58", "end": "02:48:01", "text": ">> Were you ever given information on any"}, {"start": "02:48:00", "end": "02:48:05", "text": "other species?"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:05", "text": ">> Oh, that's a good question. Um,"}, {"start": "02:48:05", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "no."}, {"start": "02:48:05", "end": "02:48:07", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:07", "text": ">> And I and I'm telling you that No, I"}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:08", "text": "believe you."}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:10", "text": ">> Yeah. No,"}, {"start": "02:48:08", "end": "02:48:12", "text": ">> I' i've never asked. I I' I've been"}, {"start": "02:48:10", "end": "02:48:14", "text": "Victor, Victor, Victor, alien, alien,"}, {"start": "02:48:12", "end": "02:48:15", "text": "tan, alien, round eyes. you know"}, {"start": "02:48:14", "end": "02:48:16", "text": ">> what's the uh"}, {"start": "02:48:15", "end": "02:48:19", "text": ">> I mean I've heard things about grays"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:22", "text": "other grays and whatnot you know that"}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:24", "text": "some have um um some have sexual"}, {"start": "02:48:22", "end": "02:48:25", "text": "appendages don't"}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:27", "text": ">> some don't um"}, {"start": "02:48:25", "end": "02:48:30", "text": ">> taller shorter"}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:34", "text": ">> right 4 and 1/2 ft to 3 feet wrap around"}, {"start": "02:48:30", "end": "02:48:36", "text": "almond eyes hybrids gray blue light tan"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "um peanut butter"}, {"start": "02:48:36", "end": "02:48:37", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:38", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:41", "text": ">> peanut butter"}, {"start": "02:48:38", "end": "02:48:46", "text": ">> peanut butter color that was Linda how"}, {"start": "02:48:41", "end": "02:48:49", "text": "um uh a dark real real dark ruddy brown."}, {"start": "02:48:46", "end": "02:48:52", "text": "Yeah. Um yeah. So I I've heard a mixture"}, {"start": "02:48:49", "end": "02:48:55", "text": "of uh of of a lot of uh about the grays,"}, {"start": "02:48:52", "end": "02:48:57", "text": ">> but we don't want to talk about Nordics."}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:48:58", "text": "We don't want to talk about Mantis."}, {"start": "02:48:57", "end": "02:48:58", "text": ">> I'm not and I don't know anything about"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:03", "text": ">> So that's so strange to me that like"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:06", "text": "they would Well, Chris, if I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:49:03", "end": "02:49:08", "text": "It's 1975 and I want to expose the pro"}, {"start": "02:49:06", "end": "02:49:11", "text": "wrestling industry as fake and I'm I've"}, {"start": "02:49:08", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "just found this referee that's willing"}, {"start": "02:49:11", "end": "02:49:15", "text": "to do it. I am going to give him test."}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:19", "text": "I'm going to give him pre-qualifiers."}, {"start": "02:49:15", "end": "02:49:22", "text": "I'm going to see if he can follow the"}, {"start": "02:49:19", "end": "02:49:24", "text": "the the the line if he's trustworthy."}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "And can we don't believe it's worked for"}, {"start": "02:49:24", "end": "02:49:30", "text": "me because my intelligence"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:31", "text": ">> my intelligence cohort has added. It is"}, {"start": "02:49:30", "end": "02:49:33", "text": "not diminished"}, {"start": "02:49:31", "end": "02:49:34", "text": ">> despite pissing off some people from the"}, {"start": "02:49:33", "end": "02:49:35", "text": "evil."}, {"start": "02:49:34", "end": "02:49:37", "text": ">> Well, to your knowledge, right?"}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:38", "text": ">> Did I just say that?"}, {"start": "02:49:37", "end": "02:49:41", "text": "I mean just to your knowledge as well,"}, {"start": "02:49:38", "end": "02:49:43", "text": "you don't know, you know, because"}, {"start": "02:49:41", "end": "02:49:45", "text": ">> like obviously,"}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:45", "text": ">> you know, you've ruffled feathers."}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:47", "text": ">> Oh god."}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:51", "text": ">> Maybe even more than ruffled feathers,"}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:53", "text": "but you've caused a stir enough for you"}, {"start": "02:49:51", "end": "02:49:55", "text": "to probably breach that barrier of being"}, {"start": "02:49:53", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "technologically monitored to being"}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:49:58", "text": "infiltrated."}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:00", "text": "You know, like that's how I see it. I"}, {"start": "02:49:58", "end": "02:50:01", "text": "see it as like not only are your phones"}, {"start": "02:50:00", "end": "02:50:03", "text": "and emails tapped at this point, you've"}, {"start": "02:50:01", "end": "02:50:05", "text": "breached a new level where we're going"}, {"start": "02:50:03", "end": "02:50:07", "text": "to send somebody into your life that's"}, {"start": "02:50:05", "end": "02:50:09", "text": "going to befriend you, that's going to"}, {"start": "02:50:07", "end": "02:50:11", "text": "be the nicest person you've ever talked"}, {"start": "02:50:09", "end": "02:50:13", "text": "to, that'll, you know, meet your family"}, {"start": "02:50:11", "end": "02:50:15", "text": "that you'll bring home for Thanksgiving,"}, {"start": "02:50:13", "end": "02:50:17", "text": "and that'll go golfing with, and before"}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:19", "text": "you know it, you know, they've got their"}, {"start": "02:50:17", "end": "02:50:20", "text": "claws in you, they've got their hooks in"}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:21", "text": "you, and now they're telling you what to"}, {"start": "02:50:20", "end": "02:50:23", "text": "say and what not to say. Like, I mean,"}, {"start": "02:50:21", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "that to me would be concerning if that"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:26", "text": "happened to me. I would be I would be"}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:30", "text": "very concerned. But other than the"}, {"start": "02:50:26", "end": "02:50:32", "text": "chairman, he is the um how can I put"}, {"start": "02:50:30", "end": "02:50:35", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "02:50:32", "end": "02:50:36", "text": ">> I'm I'm not going to even say it. I I I"}, {"start": "02:50:35", "end": "02:50:39", "text": "understand what you're saying."}, {"start": "02:50:36", "end": "02:50:42", "text": ">> And so knowing that,"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:43", "text": ">> but like I contacted Dodie. My wife did"}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:44", "text": "actually on Facebook."}, {"start": "02:50:43", "end": "02:50:46", "text": ">> Okay, that's fine. But I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "02:50:44", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "referring to I'm referring to this other"}, {"start": "02:50:46", "end": "02:50:52", "text": "gentleman. I was going to finish my"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:55", "text": ">> most of my intel I have contacted or I"}, {"start": "02:50:52", "end": "02:50:57", "text": "have um asked for that person to contact"}, {"start": "02:50:55", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "me from another person, you know, from"}, {"start": "02:50:57", "end": "02:51:00", "text": "another intel person. So"}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:03", "text": ">> So nobody in your circle has contacted"}, {"start": "02:51:00", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "you out of the blue."}, {"start": "02:51:03", "end": "02:51:04", "text": ">> Well, the chairman did."}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:08", "text": ">> My biggest leaker. But look what he gave"}, {"start": "02:51:06", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "me. He gave me an email from his friend."}, {"start": "02:51:08", "end": "02:51:13", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:15", "text": ">> I agree. Yeah. No, for sure. Um"}, {"start": "02:51:13", "end": "02:51:17", "text": ">> Yeah, it's it's it's Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:19", "text": ">> and his friends his friend wrote his"}, {"start": "02:51:17", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "first name on the bottom and said,"}, {"start": "02:51:19", "end": "02:51:22", "text": "\"Please don't associate my name with"}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "this material.\" Like, like I would tell"}, {"start": "02:51:22", "end": "02:51:26", "text": "you. I'm just saying. So, the chairman"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:28", "text": "is really the only person that has"}, {"start": "02:51:26", "end": "02:51:29", "text": ">> emailed me out of the blue and and what"}, {"start": "02:51:28", "end": "02:51:30", "text": "did he email me? Gold."}, {"start": "02:51:29", "end": "02:51:32", "text": ">> But, um,"}, {"start": "02:51:30", "end": "02:51:34", "text": ">> but I understand what you're saying. I"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:36", "text": ">> It is concerning and and and if somebody"}, {"start": "02:51:34", "end": "02:51:38", "text": "told me what I could and couldn't talk"}, {"start": "02:51:36", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "about, I mean, that would bug the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:51:38", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "out of me."}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:44", "text": ">> I knew it was a I knew it was a test, so"}, {"start": "02:51:42", "end": "02:51:45", "text": "to speak. How could we trust this guy?"}, {"start": "02:51:44", "end": "02:51:47", "text": "So now do you think you've broken that"}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:49", "text": "trust?"}, {"start": "02:51:47", "end": "02:51:51", "text": ">> I didn't say anything about any future"}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:54", "text": "projects or programs or you did."}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:56", "text": ">> So you don't know anything about this?"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:52:00", "text": ">> I I really don't. All I can say is one"}, {"start": "02:51:56", "end": "02:52:00", "text": "thing. I I I I"}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:06", "text": ">> Why? Okay. Well, what kind"}, {"start": "02:52:02", "end": "02:52:08", "text": ">> do you really want the entire world to"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:11", "text": "know how to go into the future to see if"}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:13", "text": "their kid dies at 10 or their their wife"}, {"start": "02:52:11", "end": "02:52:15", "text": "um cheats on them with somebody at work"}, {"start": "02:52:13", "end": "02:52:17", "text": "or um that they're going to get ruined"}, {"start": "02:52:15", "end": "02:52:19", "text": "in this? Do you really want the entire"}, {"start": "02:52:17", "end": "02:52:21", "text": "world to have this technology of looking"}, {"start": "02:52:19", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "into the future? And that's your answer"}, {"start": "02:52:21", "end": "02:52:27", "text": "of why two intelligence assets have kept"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:28", "text": "me completely away from that subject?"}, {"start": "02:52:27", "end": "02:52:30", "text": ">> Is that what they told you?"}, {"start": "02:52:28", "end": "02:52:32", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:33", "text": "Do I want the military-industrial"}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:35", "text": "complex making that decision for me?"}, {"start": "02:52:33", "end": "02:52:38", "text": "That's the other question."}, {"start": "02:52:35", "end": "02:52:41", "text": ">> I think there you look, you're going to"}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "not like this answer. But you you have"}, {"start": "02:52:41", "end": "02:52:44", "text": "no idea what it's like to run the entire"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:46", "text": "world or be president of the United"}, {"start": "02:52:44", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "States. You don't know what it's like to"}, {"start": "02:52:46", "end": "02:52:49", "text": "think for 350 million people. I don't"}, {"start": "02:52:48", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "either."}, {"start": "02:52:49", "end": "02:52:51", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:55", "text": ">> that's that's definitely true. and and"}, {"start": "02:52:51", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "and you know if if um and I think that"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:53:00", "text": "is 90% of this draconian I know you use"}, {"start": "02:52:58", "end": "02:53:01", "text": "that I know I use that word a lot the"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:04", "text": "draconian"}, {"start": "02:53:01", "end": "02:53:08", "text": "um structure that is oppressing this"}, {"start": "02:53:04", "end": "02:53:10", "text": "secret is we don't we cannot let it get"}, {"start": "02:53:08", "end": "02:53:13", "text": "into our enemy's hands because if it"}, {"start": "02:53:10", "end": "02:53:16", "text": "does God God help the fate of the world"}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:19", "text": "we know right now and I'm and and I want"}, {"start": "02:53:16", "end": "02:53:22", "text": "to finish my entire speech with this but"}, {"start": "02:53:19", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "right now the most important important"}, {"start": "02:53:22", "end": "02:53:26", "text": "the most important question and the most"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:29", "text": "important phenomenon in the history of"}, {"start": "02:53:26", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "the world resides in a country that is"}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:33", "text": "run at least part and parcel by"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:35", "text": "democracy right thank God"}, {"start": "02:53:33", "end": "02:53:36", "text": ">> but they are also someone's enemy"}, {"start": "02:53:35", "end": "02:53:37", "text": ">> I understand that"}, {"start": "02:53:36", "end": "02:53:39", "text": ">> you know if I was in another country and"}, {"start": "02:53:37", "end": "02:53:40", "text": "my enemy was America I would also be"}, {"start": "02:53:39", "end": "02:53:42", "text": "saying the same thing do I want America"}, {"start": "02:53:40", "end": "02:53:42", "text": "having this in their hands like who's to"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:44", "text": "say that we're better"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:46", "text": ">> it's a race to the top of the baseball"}, {"start": "02:53:44", "end": "02:53:48", "text": "bat like when we were in grade school"}, {"start": "02:53:46", "end": "02:53:48", "text": ">> yeah it's just it's just um I I I"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "suppose"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:52", "text": ">> and that's how scary the technology must"}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "be that they have that if this gets with"}, {"start": "02:53:52", "end": "02:53:56", "text": "any other country who is nefarious, who"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:53:58", "text": "does not have good intentions or can"}, {"start": "02:53:56", "end": "02:54:01", "text": "rule the world."}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:04", "text": ">> I I agree. I agree fundamentally. I do"}, {"start": "02:54:01", "end": "02:54:09", "text": "agree that there are national security"}, {"start": "02:54:04", "end": "02:54:13", "text": "risks to a lot of this information. Um I"}, {"start": "02:54:09", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "suppose I just want to know if any of it"}, {"start": "02:54:13", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "is real,"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:18", "text": ">> And and that's it, right? I'm not"}, {"start": "02:54:16", "end": "02:54:19", "text": "looking to reverse engineer a time"}, {"start": "02:54:18", "end": "02:54:21", "text": "machine,"}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:24", "text": ">> right? I'm I I'm not that smart and I"}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:27", "text": "and I I don't know anybody who is. But I"}, {"start": "02:54:24", "end": "02:54:31", "text": "do, you know, if if if you're not going"}, {"start": "02:54:27", "end": "02:54:34", "text": "to meet me halfway and be like, \"Here"}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:35", "text": "are the crafts or we have crafts or we"}, {"start": "02:54:34", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "have If you're not going to meet me"}, {"start": "02:54:35", "end": "02:54:40", "text": "halfway, well then we're all just going"}, {"start": "02:54:38", "end": "02:54:41", "text": "to keep digging until we find something"}, {"start": "02:54:40", "end": "02:54:43", "text": "sensitive, right?\""}, {"start": "02:54:41", "end": "02:54:45", "text": ">> And when I tell me this is real or not."}, {"start": "02:54:43", "end": "02:54:46", "text": ">> And when I find something sensitive like"}, {"start": "02:54:45", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "a project name and they're like, \"Don't"}, {"start": "02:54:46", "end": "02:54:49", "text": "talk about that.\" Guess what I'm talking"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:51", "text": "about? I'm talking about the project"}, {"start": "02:54:49", "end": "02:54:53", "text": "name because I want them to at least"}, {"start": "02:54:51", "end": "02:54:54", "text": "acknowledge something. Give us"}, {"start": "02:54:53", "end": "02:54:55", "text": "something. Let us know."}, {"start": "02:54:54", "end": "02:54:57", "text": ">> I understand that they never said none"}, {"start": "02:54:55", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "of my friends can talk about it or"}, {"start": "02:54:57", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "admonish anyone. Me."}, {"start": "02:54:59", "end": "02:55:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:54:59", "end": "02:55:04", "text": ">> John Stewart. Now, is that stay on"}, {"start": "02:55:01", "end": "02:55:06", "text": "mission, stay on point, don't touch"}, {"start": "02:55:04", "end": "02:55:08", "text": "something. Maybe it is something very"}, {"start": "02:55:06", "end": "02:55:11", "text": "delicate."}, {"start": "02:55:08", "end": "02:55:12", "text": ">> What's the What's the end future?"}, {"start": "02:55:11", "end": "02:55:14", "text": ">> What's for you? What's the end game with"}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:17", "text": "with these? The end game is for somebody"}, {"start": "02:55:14", "end": "02:55:19", "text": "in the freaking government or a a former"}, {"start": "02:55:17", "end": "02:55:22", "text": "int uh military person to stand up and"}, {"start": "02:55:19", "end": "02:55:24", "text": "say this this is this doctor this is"}, {"start": "02:55:22", "end": "02:55:26", "text": "this doctor this is the facility was at"}, {"start": "02:55:24", "end": "02:55:28", "text": "this is real I know this is real I know"}, {"start": "02:55:26", "end": "02:55:29", "text": "where this body is and stop laughing at"}, {"start": "02:55:28", "end": "02:55:31", "text": "John Stewart"}, {"start": "02:55:29", "end": "02:55:32", "text": ">> or not laugh but"}, {"start": "02:55:31", "end": "02:55:32", "text": ">> we're going to give John Stewart the"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:34", "text": "truth"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:36", "text": ">> noble and I respect that but if I were"}, {"start": "02:55:34", "end": "02:55:37", "text": "them I would see how long I could keep"}, {"start": "02:55:36", "end": "02:55:37", "text": "stringing you on"}, {"start": "02:55:37", "end": "02:55:39", "text": ">> probably"}, {"start": "02:55:37", "end": "02:55:40", "text": ">> I would just keep drip feeding you"}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:41", "text": "random stuff and keep telling you what"}, {"start": "02:55:40", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "to say what"}, {"start": "02:55:41", "end": "02:55:44", "text": ">> but everything they drip feed me comes"}, {"start": "02:55:42", "end": "02:55:46", "text": "comes to fruition or is get"}, {"start": "02:55:44", "end": "02:55:46", "text": ">> and and that's how that works,"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:47", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:48", "text": ">> And that's how that works."}, {"start": "02:55:47", "end": "02:55:49", "text": ">> Why would I want to"}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:51", "text": ">> because it's to gain trust. Well,"}, {"start": "02:55:49", "end": "02:55:53", "text": "because you're never I don't think I"}, {"start": "02:55:51", "end": "02:55:55", "text": "don't think these people willingly ever"}, {"start": "02:55:53", "end": "02:55:55", "text": "give anything up that's of value. I"}, {"start": "02:55:55", "end": "02:55:56", "text": "think"}, {"start": "02:55:55", "end": "02:55:59", "text": ">> you may be right."}, {"start": "02:55:56", "end": "02:56:01", "text": ">> I think you're you know when you're when"}, {"start": "02:55:59", "end": "02:56:03", "text": "you're playing with these with these"}, {"start": "02:56:01", "end": "02:56:05", "text": "people, they are also just taking"}, {"start": "02:56:03", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "orders. There's also like a there's"}, {"start": "02:56:05", "end": "02:56:08", "text": "probably a case file on you right now"}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:10", "text": "like with you know what what to give you"}, {"start": "02:56:08", "end": "02:56:13", "text": "next and what to you know and and that"}, {"start": "02:56:10", "end": "02:56:14", "text": "would bug me. But I guess if you have no"}, {"start": "02:56:13", "end": "02:56:15", "text": "other choice because where else are we"}, {"start": "02:56:14", "end": "02:56:18", "text": "going to get this info?"}, {"start": "02:56:15", "end": "02:56:20", "text": ">> Could it be 11 intelligence former"}, {"start": "02:56:18", "end": "02:56:23", "text": "operatives and contractors that want"}, {"start": "02:56:20", "end": "02:56:24", "text": "disclosure and are very careful about"}, {"start": "02:56:23", "end": "02:56:25", "text": "what they tell me? Is that can't that be"}, {"start": "02:56:24", "end": "02:56:27", "text": "the name of the"}, {"start": "02:56:25", "end": "02:56:29", "text": ">> possibly? Possibly. For sure. You know,"}, {"start": "02:56:27", "end": "02:56:32", "text": "definitely. But they are intelligence"}, {"start": "02:56:29", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "agencies. You know, they are smart."}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:34", "text": ">> They do. And yeah, it's uh"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:36", "text": ">> they have a lot of power."}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:37", "text": ">> You're right. And they they can be very"}, {"start": "02:56:36", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "protective."}, {"start": "02:56:37", "end": "02:56:40", "text": ">> Yeah. I suppose."}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:41", "text": ">> And that bothers me because that, you"}, {"start": "02:56:40", "end": "02:56:46", "text": "know, that"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:50", "text": ">> is uh is a um an obfuscation brought on"}, {"start": "02:56:46", "end": "02:56:53", "text": "by, you know, my my due diligence and"}, {"start": "02:56:50", "end": "02:56:56", "text": "my, you know, my uh my honoring my"}, {"start": "02:56:53", "end": "02:56:57", "text": "security and well then you should have"}, {"start": "02:56:56", "end": "02:56:58", "text": "never called me in the first place. You"}, {"start": "02:56:57", "end": "02:56:58", "text": "know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:56:59", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I agree."}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:57:01", "text": ">> I should have never picked up the phone"}, {"start": "02:56:59", "end": "02:57:04", "text": "when I would or never returned my email."}, {"start": "02:57:01", "end": "02:57:07", "text": "You know, go away, kid. That's the murky"}, {"start": "02:57:04", "end": "02:57:09", "text": "water of the UFO scape anyways is like"}, {"start": "02:57:07", "end": "02:57:11", "text": ">> you know on one side the argument can be"}, {"start": "02:57:09", "end": "02:57:13", "text": "made oh it's all this but the equal and"}, {"start": "02:57:11", "end": "02:57:15", "text": "opposite argument exists as well"}, {"start": "02:57:13", "end": "02:57:16", "text": "constantly and that in somewhere in"}, {"start": "02:57:15", "end": "02:57:18", "text": "between lies a scop and like"}, {"start": "02:57:16", "end": "02:57:21", "text": ">> I mean you got a guy like John Leer"}, {"start": "02:57:18", "end": "02:57:24", "text": "saying oh they put that into John"}, {"start": "02:57:21", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "Stewart's head in 2019 start researching"}, {"start": "02:57:24", "end": "02:57:28", "text": "this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:57:25", "end": "02:57:30", "text": ">> I'm a type a alpha male you know I I"}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:32", "text": "want to hunt I want to aggressive and"}, {"start": "02:57:30", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "this this thing bo this film bothered me"}, {"start": "02:57:32", "end": "02:57:37", "text": "and I did this on my own. There wasn't"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:39", "text": "any intelligence person. Um and and you"}, {"start": "02:57:37", "end": "02:57:40", "text": "got Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot"}, {"start": "02:57:39", "end": "02:57:42", "text": "that'll tell anybody that'll listen to"}, {"start": "02:57:40", "end": "02:57:46", "text": "her, they chose John Stewart. That was"}, {"start": "02:57:42", "end": "02:57:47", "text": "told to me on a podcast. They chose you."}, {"start": "02:57:46", "end": "02:57:47", "text": "I I don't believe that."}, {"start": "02:57:47", "end": "02:57:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:57:47", "end": "02:57:50", "text": ">> I don't believe that for one second. I"}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "think they went, \"Oh, I remember Dod's"}, {"start": "02:57:50", "end": "02:57:54", "text": "first email back to me."}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:57", "text": ">> You're investigating the alien"}, {"start": "02:57:54", "end": "02:57:59", "text": "interview. You are on a very interesting"}, {"start": "02:57:57", "end": "02:58:01", "text": "endeavor.\" He must have [ __ ] in his"}, {"start": "02:57:59", "end": "02:58:02", "text": "pants when he saw after 30 years"}, {"start": "02:58:01", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "somebody was going to start"}, {"start": "02:58:02", "end": "02:58:07", "text": "investigating this interview and not"}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:10", "text": "crap in his pants scared like like oh"}, {"start": "02:58:07", "end": "02:58:11", "text": "this is wow"}, {"start": "02:58:10", "end": "02:58:12", "text": ">> that like somebody coming to me Mr."}, {"start": "02:58:11", "end": "02:58:15", "text": "short. I want to investigate the"}, {"start": "02:58:12", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "possible murder of that female wrestler"}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "back in ' 62. And like I'd be like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:21", "text": "interesting.\""}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:22", "text": ">> If somebody came to you right now and be"}, {"start": "02:58:21", "end": "02:58:24", "text": "honest here,"}, {"start": "02:58:22", "end": "02:58:25", "text": ">> oh, I don't like the way this question."}, {"start": "02:58:24", "end": "02:58:27", "text": ">> Well, if they came to you right now and"}, {"start": "02:58:25", "end": "02:58:30", "text": "said, \"Listen,"}, {"start": "02:58:27", "end": "02:58:32", "text": ">> I'll I'll I'll tell you everything,"}, {"start": "02:58:30", "end": "02:58:34", "text": "but you just got to keep playing ball"}, {"start": "02:58:32", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "and keep pretending and keep doing and"}, {"start": "02:58:34", "end": "02:58:37", "text": "keep we're going to tell you what to"}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:38", "text": "say, but I'll I'll I'll feed everything"}, {"start": "02:58:37", "end": "02:58:41", "text": "to you. everything you've ever wanted to"}, {"start": "02:58:38", "end": "02:58:43", "text": "know about this program. But you got to"}, {"start": "02:58:41", "end": "02:58:43", "text": "we got to send you on a wild goose chase"}, {"start": "02:58:43", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "publicly."}, {"start": "02:58:43", "end": "02:58:49", "text": ">> Do I have to lie publicly?"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:50", "text": ">> You'll have to cut No, not lie. Omit."}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:50", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "02:58:50", "end": "02:58:51", "text": ">> you would."}, {"start": "02:58:50", "end": "02:58:52", "text": ">> I would take that deal."}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:55", "text": ">> You would take that deal?"}, {"start": "02:58:52", "end": "02:58:55", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:58:55", "end": "02:59:00", "text": ">> Until I know mankind or my fellow my"}, {"start": "02:58:58", "end": "02:59:01", "text": "neighbors were were in danger. Correct."}, {"start": "02:59:00", "end": "02:59:03", "text": "M"}, {"start": "02:59:01", "end": "02:59:04", "text": ">> that that is my that is my"}, {"start": "02:59:03", "end": "02:59:06", "text": ">> I appreciate the honest answer there"}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:07", "text": "because I think a lot of people would"}, {"start": "02:59:06", "end": "02:59:08", "text": "have lied to that answer."}, {"start": "02:59:07", "end": "02:59:10", "text": ">> You know it's the Tommy Lee Jones and"}, {"start": "02:59:08", "end": "02:59:12", "text": "Space Cowboys. You'd leave me down there"}, {"start": "02:59:10", "end": "02:59:13", "text": "and go to space. Hell yeah I would. You"}, {"start": "02:59:12", "end": "02:59:14", "text": "know"}, {"start": "02:59:13", "end": "02:59:16", "text": ">> I would uh I would walk"}, {"start": "02:59:14", "end": "02:59:17", "text": ">> to find the truth who Victor is."}, {"start": "02:59:16", "end": "02:59:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:59:17", "end": "02:59:20", "text": ">> God that would be a tough choice though"}, {"start": "02:59:18", "end": "02:59:21", "text": "to cuz like that would eat at you, you"}, {"start": "02:59:20", "end": "02:59:22", "text": "know. And I'm sure it"}, {"start": "02:59:21", "end": "02:59:23", "text": ">> don't harm my neighbors or my wife or"}, {"start": "02:59:22", "end": "02:59:24", "text": "kids."}, {"start": "02:59:23", "end": "02:59:25", "text": ">> But it eats at a lot of people."}, {"start": "02:59:24", "end": "02:59:26", "text": ">> I know it does."}, {"start": "02:59:25", "end": "02:59:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:59:26", "end": "02:59:29", "text": ">> But I'm the one investigating. I'm the"}, {"start": "02:59:27", "end": "02:59:32", "text": "one that spent $30,000. I'm the one"}, {"start": "02:59:29", "end": "02:59:36", "text": "taking the heat. I can find the truth"}, {"start": "02:59:32", "end": "02:59:38", "text": "and and and and and the deal is go out"}, {"start": "02:59:36", "end": "02:59:40", "text": "there as a blabberine. You know, the"}, {"start": "02:59:38", "end": "02:59:41", "text": "buffoon, you know, you don't think I"}, {"start": "02:59:40", "end": "02:59:45", "text": "could leak stuff"}, {"start": "02:59:41", "end": "02:59:46", "text": ">> behind them maybe or in in speech or I"}, {"start": "02:59:45", "end": "02:59:47", "text": "could figure something out. And if I"}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:49", "text": "could, I could have, but yeah, I would"}, {"start": "02:59:47", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "take that deal. I'm sorry."}, {"start": "02:59:49", "end": "02:59:51", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:53", "text": ">> there's there's no one behind me writing"}, {"start": "02:59:51", "end": "02:59:55", "text": "a check to cover my losses."}, {"start": "02:59:53", "end": "02:59:57", "text": ">> That's right. I appreciate the honest"}, {"start": "02:59:55", "end": "02:59:59", "text": "answer. I really do. Thank you."}, {"start": "02:59:57", "end": "03:00:01", "text": ">> I came here to be honest. Um, do you"}, {"start": "02:59:59", "end": "03:00:02", "text": "want to answer some audience questions?"}, {"start": "03:00:01", "end": "03:00:03", "text": ">> Oh god. Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "03:00:02", "end": "03:00:05", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "03:00:03", "end": "03:00:08", "text": ">> Is it true you hit Sergeant Slaughter"}, {"start": "03:00:05", "end": "03:00:12", "text": "over the head with a chair and nine?"}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:16", "text": "This is about aliens. What the hell is"}, {"start": "03:00:12", "end": "03:00:20", "text": "Why has this video"}, {"start": "03:00:16", "end": "03:00:22", "text": "been allowed to spread publicly uh when"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:24", "text": "so many less compelling ones have been"}, {"start": "03:00:22", "end": "03:00:26", "text": "squashed by Mo?"}, {"start": "03:00:24", "end": "03:00:28", "text": ">> Because I think I think that there"}, {"start": "03:00:26", "end": "03:00:31", "text": "there's two answers to that. One of them"}, {"start": "03:00:28", "end": "03:00:35", "text": "them is when this if this was re if this"}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:36", "text": "is real when this came out I think the"}, {"start": "03:00:35", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "government"}, {"start": "03:00:36", "end": "03:00:41", "text": "their sphincter probably was you could"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "make a diamond out of a lump of coal and"}, {"start": "03:00:41", "end": "03:00:47", "text": "I think and I"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:51", "text": "with on good foundation that they just"}, {"start": "03:00:47", "end": "03:00:53", "text": "said we are we are up shitz creek let's"}, {"start": "03:00:51", "end": "03:00:56", "text": "see what happens let's see where this"}, {"start": "03:00:53", "end": "03:00:59", "text": "goes at the very least we'll see what"}, {"start": "03:00:56", "end": "03:01:02", "text": "the how The public reacts to it. Well,"}, {"start": "03:00:59", "end": "03:01:05", "text": "why do I think the government knows who"}, {"start": "03:01:02", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "Victor is? Absolutely. Why didn't they"}, {"start": "03:01:05", "end": "03:01:10", "text": "prosecute Victor? It's called discovery."}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:11", "text": "You want the government to prosecute"}, {"start": "03:01:10", "end": "03:01:11", "text": "Victor?"}, {"start": "03:01:11", "end": "03:01:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:01:11", "end": "03:01:13", "text": ">> About the alien film. Then all of a"}, {"start": "03:01:13", "end": "03:01:15", "text": "sudden,"}, {"start": "03:01:13", "end": "03:01:17", "text": ">> I thought it's fake. Why are you"}, {"start": "03:01:15", "end": "03:01:20", "text": "prosecuting about 3 feet of, you know,"}, {"start": "03:01:17", "end": "03:01:22", "text": "16 feet of cellophane film? It's fake."}, {"start": "03:01:20", "end": "03:01:23", "text": "Oh, you're prosecuting him because it's"}, {"start": "03:01:22", "end": "03:01:26", "text": "not fake. Mhm."}, {"start": "03:01:23", "end": "03:01:28", "text": ">> So, there was a real catch 22 that the"}, {"start": "03:01:26", "end": "03:01:31", "text": "government is still in with this film."}, {"start": "03:01:28", "end": "03:01:32", "text": ">> And I think I play an important part of"}, {"start": "03:01:31", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "bringing the government out. I coined"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "this phrase myself, bringing the"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "government out of the closet. Let this"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:37", "text": "guy"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:01:37", "end": "03:01:41", "text": ">> go through the whole maturations and"}, {"start": "03:01:39", "end": "03:01:44", "text": "he'll eventually, you know, find"}, {"start": "03:01:41", "end": "03:01:47", "text": "Victor's Cub Scout pack and a neighbor"}, {"start": "03:01:44", "end": "03:01:49", "text": "and and and we're out of it. And maybe"}, {"start": "03:01:47", "end": "03:01:52", "text": "we can go, well, he's a crazy car dealer"}, {"start": "03:01:49", "end": "03:01:54", "text": "wrestler, but yeah, he did a good job."}, {"start": "03:01:52", "end": "03:01:55", "text": "and you know and and it diminishes it."}, {"start": "03:01:54", "end": "03:01:56", "text": ">> Do you know who Victor is?"}, {"start": "03:01:55", "end": "03:01:56", "text": ">> I do."}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:01:58", "text": ">> You've met him?"}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:01:58", "text": ">> I know. No, no, no."}, {"start": "03:01:58", "end": "03:02:00", "text": ">> You spoke to him?"}, {"start": "03:01:58", "end": "03:02:01", "text": ">> I just I just know his name and I have"}, {"start": "03:02:00", "end": "03:02:03", "text": "his face."}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:05", "text": ">> You have his name and face. How is that?"}, {"start": "03:02:03", "end": "03:02:06", "text": "Was that just through your investigation"}, {"start": "03:02:05", "end": "03:02:08", "text": "or was that given to you?"}, {"start": "03:02:06", "end": "03:02:10", "text": ">> No. The director of the both"}, {"start": "03:02:08", "end": "03:02:12", "text": "documentaries, Jeff Broadcreet, who does"}, {"start": "03:02:10", "end": "03:02:13", "text": "not care about aliens or anything."}, {"start": "03:02:12", "end": "03:02:15", "text": ">> Didn't he do follow-up documentaries"}, {"start": "03:02:13", "end": "03:02:17", "text": "about aliens?"}, {"start": "03:02:15", "end": "03:02:20", "text": ">> Um, he might have done one or he was a"}, {"start": "03:02:17", "end": "03:02:21", "text": "guest. I was um um a guest on what one"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:23", "text": "like some"}, {"start": "03:02:21", "end": "03:02:24", "text": ">> Oh, it was like a guest on. Okay."}, {"start": "03:02:23", "end": "03:02:28", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "03:02:24", "end": "03:02:31", "text": "he gave me uh for $500 I got the first"}, {"start": "03:02:28", "end": "03:02:34", "text": "name Stanton, which I thought was Stan."}, {"start": "03:02:31", "end": "03:02:37", "text": "That's why I thought it was Standale cuz"}, {"start": "03:02:34", "end": "03:02:39", "text": "he looks just like Victor. Victor looks"}, {"start": "03:02:37", "end": "03:02:42", "text": "identical to Stanale, the old"}, {"start": "03:02:39", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "eupfologist."}, {"start": "03:02:42", "end": "03:02:49", "text": "But it's not Standale."}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:50", "text": ">> Huh? What was that? Look,"}, {"start": "03:02:49", "end": "03:02:51", "text": ">> he's got the same name."}, {"start": "03:02:50", "end": "03:02:53", "text": ">> Well, I've gotta look for a guy that"}, {"start": "03:02:51", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "looks like Stan Dale but and but is a"}, {"start": "03:02:53", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "jerk like Bill Moore that speaks French."}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:02:57", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:03:00", "text": ">> speaks French."}, {"start": "03:02:57", "end": "03:03:02", "text": ">> This my Yeah, he spoke French in the 208"}, {"start": "03:03:00", "end": "03:03:05", "text": "documentary. Talked the Deluge of the"}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:07", "text": "Solar and talked about Sardo and Cicero"}, {"start": "03:03:05", "end": "03:03:11", "text": "and quoting philosophers and"}, {"start": "03:03:07", "end": "03:03:13", "text": ">> and the Zultine calendar and and so um"}, {"start": "03:03:11", "end": "03:03:15", "text": "so Jeff said, \"I will give you the full"}, {"start": "03:03:13", "end": "03:03:18", "text": "name. I will give you the two cities"}, {"start": "03:03:15", "end": "03:03:21", "text": "that we took picked him up at for the"}, {"start": "03:03:18", "end": "03:03:25", "text": "documentaries for $5,000."}, {"start": "03:03:21", "end": "03:03:27", "text": ">> What? What a gatekeep for this guy."}, {"start": "03:03:25", "end": "03:03:29", "text": ">> So my wife's like, \"You've already spent"}, {"start": "03:03:27", "end": "03:03:31", "text": "$27,000."}, {"start": "03:03:29", "end": "03:03:34", "text": "You're not writing him a check.\" The"}, {"start": "03:03:31", "end": "03:03:37", "text": "angel of angels came through. His name"}, {"start": "03:03:34", "end": "03:03:41", "text": "is Brian Pemble. He's a UFO researcher."}, {"start": "03:03:37", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "He's on X from Tucson, Arizona. Um and"}, {"start": "03:03:41", "end": "03:03:46", "text": "he said, \"I I will cover half. I want to"}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:47", "text": "know who Victor is. I I was I like tears"}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:50", "text": "of my eyes. I was like, you are really"}, {"start": "03:03:47", "end": "03:03:52", "text": "going to help me do this. So, we PayPal"}, {"start": "03:03:50", "end": "03:03:55", "text": "Jeff I put this on on Clint Walden's"}, {"start": "03:03:52", "end": "03:03:57", "text": "night shift. I put the PayPal that we"}, {"start": "03:03:55", "end": "03:03:59", "text": "sent um Jeff Broad Street. I actually"}, {"start": "03:03:57", "end": "03:04:02", "text": "think it was 4200."}, {"start": "03:03:59", "end": "03:04:04", "text": ">> And Broad Street like Victor, Mr."}, {"start": "03:04:02", "end": "03:04:05", "text": "Pendactic said, \"Well, I want the fee"}, {"start": "03:04:04", "end": "03:04:07", "text": "that PayPal is going to charge me.\" So,"}, {"start": "03:04:05", "end": "03:04:09", "text": "we had to give him like another 15%. I'm"}, {"start": "03:04:07", "end": "03:04:11", "text": "like, \"Are you a Victor?\""}, {"start": "03:04:09", "end": "03:04:15", "text": ">> And um so, we get it. So, we are waiting"}, {"start": "03:04:11", "end": "03:04:17", "text": "for the email. Victor's name um that"}, {"start": "03:04:15", "end": "03:04:19", "text": "Jeff Broadreet said. Jeff Broadstreet"}, {"start": "03:04:17", "end": "03:04:22", "text": "was shown a tattered social security"}, {"start": "03:04:19", "end": "03:04:24", "text": "card with the prefix 262, which is a"}, {"start": "03:04:22", "end": "03:04:27", "text": "Florida birth from Victor, not his"}, {"start": "03:04:24", "end": "03:04:30", "text": "driver's license. Victor never took off"}, {"start": "03:04:27", "end": "03:04:34", "text": "his sunglasses. Interesting."}, {"start": "03:04:30", "end": "03:04:36", "text": "Um was a guy by the name of Stanton John"}, {"start": "03:04:34", "end": "03:04:38", "text": "Willlet."}, {"start": "03:04:36", "end": "03:04:41", "text": "So we go to the computer. There is a"}, {"start": "03:04:38", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "John Stanton Willlet who died in October"}, {"start": "03:04:41", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "of last year who lived 10 miles from me."}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:48", "text": "Well, of course, this is John Stewart"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:52", "text": ">> and Jeff Brdy. Now, this is when we go"}, {"start": "03:04:48", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "back to deception detective work."}, {"start": "03:04:52", "end": "03:04:58", "text": ">> Jeff said, \"I did look at his social"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:05:02", "text": "security card. It wasn't John. I am"}, {"start": "03:04:58", "end": "03:05:04", "text": "positive. Stanton John Willlet.\" So, we"}, {"start": "03:05:02", "end": "03:05:07", "text": "spent $600 with a private detective at"}, {"start": "03:05:04", "end": "03:05:09", "text": "Chicago. She's like, \"There is no one.\""}, {"start": "03:05:07", "end": "03:05:12", "text": "Now, think about this."}, {"start": "03:05:09", "end": "03:05:14", "text": ">> Jeff Broadreet was given a name that has"}, {"start": "03:05:12", "end": "03:05:16", "text": "never been born in America, right,"}, {"start": "03:05:14", "end": "03:05:17", "text": ">> since 1650,"}, {"start": "03:05:16", "end": "03:05:19", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "03:05:17", "end": "03:05:21", "text": ">> Isn't that a little weird? Isn't that a"}, {"start": "03:05:19", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "little intelly that you have come up"}, {"start": "03:05:21", "end": "03:05:27", "text": "with a name that is nowhere? So now I"}, {"start": "03:05:25", "end": "03:05:30", "text": "don't want to say how because I don't"}, {"start": "03:05:27", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "want to get arrested, but the same"}, {"start": "03:05:30", "end": "03:05:36", "text": "methodology we used to see Bob Lazar on"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:38", "text": "the EG&NG entry log. This is an entry"}, {"start": "03:05:36", "end": "03:05:42", "text": "log into Groom Lake in the Nellis test"}, {"start": "03:05:38", "end": "03:05:44", "text": "and training range kept kept by EGNG"}, {"start": "03:05:42", "end": "03:05:46", "text": "with Bob Lazar's names on it for 92"}, {"start": "03:05:44", "end": "03:05:49", "text": "days."}, {"start": "03:05:46", "end": "03:05:50", "text": "John Stanton Willlet's name was on it."}, {"start": "03:05:49", "end": "03:05:52", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "03:05:50", "end": "03:05:56", "text": ">> Working for EG&G."}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:59", "text": "Now I've um now I have produced another"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "log line from this book when we thought"}, {"start": "03:05:59", "end": "03:06:05", "text": "when we got the first name Stanton I"}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:08", "text": "found a Stanton how who was a scientist"}, {"start": "03:06:05", "end": "03:06:11", "text": "um and and worked out at Area 51. I'm"}, {"start": "03:06:08", "end": "03:06:12", "text": "like, \"This is Victor.\" And we called"}, {"start": "03:06:11", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "his family. His son's like, \"Stop"}, {"start": "03:06:12", "end": "03:06:17", "text": "calling me. You're crazy.\" And click."}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:21", "text": "And that wasn't Victor. But I got his"}, {"start": "03:06:17", "end": "03:06:24", "text": "log line. And it's last name, a line."}, {"start": "03:06:21", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "This is what the Groom Lake log. I am"}, {"start": "03:06:24", "end": "03:06:28", "text": "the only person that has ever brought"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "out a document from Area 51. And I'm"}, {"start": "03:06:28", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "proud to say that it was how a line"}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:39", "text": "Stanton I think J his middle initial"}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "whether he was a civilian or military"}, {"start": "03:06:39", "end": "03:06:45", "text": "CIV or or um MIL whether he was a"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "resident staying over on the base or"}, {"start": "03:06:45", "end": "03:06:53", "text": "not. The time duration of he was allowed"}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:56", "text": "on the base like a June of 82 to July of"}, {"start": "03:06:53", "end": "03:07:01", "text": "84 usually is twoear stints. same thing"}, {"start": "03:06:56", "end": "03:07:03", "text": "Bob Lazard, the same lineage Bob um had"}, {"start": "03:07:01", "end": "03:07:08", "text": "um and"}, {"start": "03:07:03", "end": "03:07:12", "text": "um and um Stanton and and Woody worked"}, {"start": "03:07:08", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "for and and Stanton How the fake Victor"}, {"start": "03:07:12", "end": "03:07:16", "text": "was Lockheed. Now people have told me"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:19", "text": "that because I've had seven people I've"}, {"start": "03:07:16", "end": "03:07:21", "text": "interviewed that were on Area 51. They"}, {"start": "03:07:19", "end": "03:07:23", "text": "said at times you could work for Chris"}, {"start": "03:07:21", "end": "03:07:26", "text": "Ramsey Dynamics,"}, {"start": "03:07:23", "end": "03:07:28", "text": ">> but Lockheed will get you entry onto the"}, {"start": "03:07:26", "end": "03:07:30", "text": "base. Yeah. If I'm grabbing you from"}, {"start": "03:07:28", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "Chris Ramsey Dynamics Electronics"}, {"start": "03:07:30", "end": "03:07:34", "text": "Company to help us on a radar"}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:36", "text": "application. Sure."}, {"start": "03:07:34", "end": "03:07:37", "text": ">> Lockheed will will be your um"}, {"start": "03:07:36", "end": "03:07:39", "text": ">> contractor"}, {"start": "03:07:37", "end": "03:07:41", "text": ">> contractor which I thought was"}, {"start": "03:07:39", "end": "03:07:43", "text": "interesting little tidbit there."}, {"start": "03:07:41", "end": "03:07:47", "text": ">> And and Stanton John Willlet worked for"}, {"start": "03:07:43", "end": "03:07:50", "text": "EG&G. Again, we go to GG&G, we find out"}, {"start": "03:07:47", "end": "03:07:52", "text": "that they did high ti high tie top"}, {"start": "03:07:50", "end": "03:07:55", "text": "secret audiovisisual documentation for"}, {"start": "03:07:52", "end": "03:07:55", "text": ">> they also hired the pilots at Janet"}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:58", "text": "Airlines"}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:59", "text": ">> and and the Wacken. Yep."}, {"start": "03:07:58", "end": "03:08:00", "text": ">> They hired them."}, {"start": "03:07:59", "end": "03:08:01", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "03:08:00", "end": "03:08:03", "text": ">> Very"}, {"start": "03:08:01", "end": "03:08:04", "text": ">> Yeah, they were they were everywhere"}, {"start": "03:08:03", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "there. They were the ones who built the"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "whole thing."}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:07", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:10", "text": ">> cool."}, {"start": "03:08:07", "end": "03:08:11", "text": ">> So, um Stanton John Willlet is nowhere."}, {"start": "03:08:10", "end": "03:08:14", "text": "What we'd like to do"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:16", "text": ">> except on a log at Area 51. Correct. Now"}, {"start": "03:08:14", "end": "03:08:18", "text": "I get a"}, {"start": "03:08:16", "end": "03:08:22", "text": "one of my intel people hooks me up with"}, {"start": "03:08:18", "end": "03:08:25", "text": "a This is It's too Tom Clancy. Forget"}, {"start": "03:08:22", "end": "03:08:28", "text": "it. It's it's it's"}, {"start": "03:08:25", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "um All I can say is this is that we are"}, {"start": "03:08:28", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "I have been told that Stanton John"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:38", "text": "Willlet was a Intel name identity given"}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:40", "text": "to him by an intelligence three-letter."}, {"start": "03:08:38", "end": "03:08:42", "text": ">> Okay. It was a pseudonym."}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:44", "text": ">> Correct. And that's like I told you"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:46", "text": "earlier, you can only get on Area 51"}, {"start": "03:08:44", "end": "03:08:48", "text": "with your real name or an approved"}, {"start": "03:08:46", "end": "03:08:51", "text": "official gnome dlume from an"}, {"start": "03:08:48", "end": "03:08:53", "text": "intelligence agency. We believe Stanton"}, {"start": "03:08:51", "end": "03:08:55", "text": "John Willlet is not his real name. And"}, {"start": "03:08:53", "end": "03:08:59", "text": "I've been told by various sources, look"}, {"start": "03:08:55", "end": "03:09:01", "text": "for a Stanton somewhere that or a victor"}, {"start": "03:08:59", "end": "03:09:04", "text": "or something or a variation. They often"}, {"start": "03:09:01", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "times will use the real first name of"}, {"start": "03:09:04", "end": "03:09:07", "text": "someone"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:10", "text": ">> to so it's not so detached from their"}, {"start": "03:09:07", "end": "03:09:11", "text": "real identity. Yeah. whether that's true"}, {"start": "03:09:10", "end": "03:09:15", "text": "or not. Correct."}, {"start": "03:09:11", "end": "03:09:18", "text": ">> So we were all then the director told us"}, {"start": "03:09:15", "end": "03:09:21", "text": "in 96 Victor flew in from Arizona and"}, {"start": "03:09:18", "end": "03:09:24", "text": "this is amazing. In n in 2008 we picked"}, {"start": "03:09:21", "end": "03:09:28", "text": "Victor up at a residence in Rancho"}, {"start": "03:09:24", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "Cucamonga, California. The former FBI"}, {"start": "03:09:28", "end": "03:09:33", "text": "agent, private detective in Chicago"}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:36", "text": "said, \"I heard Victor say, \"Man,"}, {"start": "03:09:33", "end": "03:09:39", "text": "man, it's called California English.\""}, {"start": "03:09:36", "end": "03:09:42", "text": "And this guy thinks that Victor"}, {"start": "03:09:39", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "like, \"All right, man.\""}, {"start": "03:09:42", "end": "03:09:45", "text": ">> The FBI guy told me this and I went back"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:48", "text": "and I heard it and he does say it. He"}, {"start": "03:09:45", "end": "03:09:50", "text": "says, \"I think Victor spent a lot of"}, {"start": "03:09:48", "end": "03:09:53", "text": "time in California.\" Sure enough, Chad"}, {"start": "03:09:50", "end": "03:09:55", "text": "Broad Street says, \"Southern California,"}, {"start": "03:09:53", "end": "03:09:57", "text": ">> what we would like to do.\" Now, somebody"}, {"start": "03:09:55", "end": "03:09:59", "text": "on Reddit, another internet angel, Mr."}, {"start": "03:09:57", "end": "03:10:01", "text": "Stewart, do you know they lighten"}, {"start": "03:09:59", "end": "03:10:03", "text": "Victor's face? You can see what he looks"}, {"start": "03:10:01", "end": "03:10:04", "text": "like. And I went on to Reddit and he"}, {"start": "03:10:03", "end": "03:10:08", "text": "looks like Stan Dale with the beard, the"}, {"start": "03:10:04", "end": "03:10:10", "text": "goatee, the fake hair."}, {"start": "03:10:08", "end": "03:10:12", "text": "We would like to take this photo, give"}, {"start": "03:10:10", "end": "03:10:16", "text": "it to the the the city manager because"}, {"start": "03:10:12", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "Rancho Cukamonga does not have a mayor"}, {"start": "03:10:16", "end": "03:10:20", "text": "and give it to the city manager to tell"}, {"start": "03:10:18", "end": "03:10:22", "text": "the newspaper in Rancho Cook, could you"}, {"start": "03:10:20", "end": "03:10:24", "text": "help this guy? This is an interesting"}, {"start": "03:10:22", "end": "03:10:27", "text": "story. We've got a huge whistleblower"}, {"start": "03:10:24", "end": "03:10:30", "text": "allegedly from ranch our area. Here's"}, {"start": "03:10:27", "end": "03:10:32", "text": "his name and face. Can what can somebody"}, {"start": "03:10:30", "end": "03:10:33", "text": "from his cub scout pack his high school"}, {"start": "03:10:32", "end": "03:10:36", "text": "sure because I don't believe the"}, {"start": "03:10:33", "end": "03:10:38", "text": "government can can it's called sheep"}, {"start": "03:10:36", "end": "03:10:40", "text": "dipping. I don't believe the government"}, {"start": "03:10:38", "end": "03:10:42", "text": "can sheep dip your neighbors your cub"}, {"start": "03:10:40", "end": "03:10:44", "text": "scout group members and they can do it"}, {"start": "03:10:42", "end": "03:10:45", "text": "if they given you a fake name. You'll"}, {"start": "03:10:44", "end": "03:10:47", "text": "never find that. But if his name is"}, {"start": "03:10:45", "end": "03:10:48", "text": "Stanton and Johnson"}, {"start": "03:10:47", "end": "03:10:50", "text": ">> and he looks like that"}, {"start": "03:10:48", "end": "03:10:52", "text": ">> looks like that. We've got our man. So"}, {"start": "03:10:50", "end": "03:10:54", "text": "that that is our next"}, {"start": "03:10:52", "end": "03:10:56", "text": ">> cool um our next uh avenue with Victor."}, {"start": "03:10:54", "end": "03:10:57", "text": "Sorry I didn't mean to go off on a No."}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "Yeah, it's very interesting. Please keep"}, {"start": "03:10:57", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "us posted."}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "03:11:04", "end": "03:11:08", "text": "It's like being on a game show"}, {"start": "03:11:12", "end": "03:11:16", "text": ">> from Hex. Have you had any Men in Black"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:17", "text": "interaction since starting your research"}, {"start": "03:11:16", "end": "03:11:18", "text": "and coming forward?"}, {"start": "03:11:17", "end": "03:11:20", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "03:11:18", "end": "03:11:22", "text": ">> No. No. Uh no name. No. Uh"}, {"start": "03:11:20", "end": "03:11:24", "text": ">> no knocks on the door. And I've said it"}, {"start": "03:11:22", "end": "03:11:25", "text": "to everyone and I've said it on podcast."}, {"start": "03:11:24", "end": "03:11:27", "text": "Hey,"}, {"start": "03:11:25", "end": "03:11:28", "text": ">> everyone tells you which agency they're"}, {"start": "03:11:27", "end": "03:11:31", "text": "from when they talk to you?"}, {"start": "03:11:28", "end": "03:11:35", "text": ">> Well, no. They're from the 2764th"}, {"start": "03:11:31", "end": "03:11:37", "text": "uh detachment wing out of Bel Bellevore."}, {"start": "03:11:35", "end": "03:11:40", "text": "They do hire actors. They do hire"}, {"start": "03:11:37", "end": "03:11:42", "text": "weirdlooking people. Um they are"}, {"start": "03:11:40", "end": "03:11:43", "text": "trained."}, {"start": "03:11:42", "end": "03:11:43", "text": ">> You talking about the men of black?"}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:46", "text": ">> Yeah. But I mean the people that you're"}, {"start": "03:11:45", "end": "03:11:48", "text": "around, they they've always given you"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:50", "text": "they've always come forward with who"}, {"start": "03:11:48", "end": "03:11:52", "text": "they were with"}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:53", "text": "like which department they were with."}, {"start": "03:11:52", "end": "03:11:54", "text": ">> Some some have and some haven't."}, {"start": "03:11:53", "end": "03:11:55", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:11:54", "end": "03:11:58", "text": ">> And how do you know their intelligence"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:12:01", "text": "if they haven't?"}, {"start": "03:11:58", "end": "03:12:02", "text": ">> I guess I you know I guess you're right."}, {"start": "03:12:01", "end": "03:12:03", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "03:12:02", "end": "03:12:04", "text": ">> Great point."}, {"start": "03:12:03", "end": "03:12:06", "text": ">> But no, I have no interaction with men"}, {"start": "03:12:04", "end": "03:12:08", "text": "and black and I've said it publicly. You"}, {"start": "03:12:06", "end": "03:12:10", "text": "stop stealing my emails."}, {"start": "03:12:08", "end": "03:12:11", "text": ">> You want me to stop"}, {"start": "03:12:10", "end": "03:12:14", "text": ">> that? I've touched on something that's"}, {"start": "03:12:11", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "going to compromise national security."}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:19", "text": "Be a man. That's that's that's that's"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:22", "text": "combative. I'm sorry. Be a gentleman. Be"}, {"start": "03:12:19", "end": "03:12:24", "text": "a woman. A lady. Knock on my door. Show"}, {"start": "03:12:22", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "me your credentials. I'll take you out"}, {"start": "03:12:24", "end": "03:12:28", "text": "for coffee. I'll go show you the Home"}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "Alone house. We'll take pictures and you"}, {"start": "03:12:28", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "can tell me why I should stop and I'll"}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:32", "text": "stop."}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:34", "text": ">> I'm happy to do that, too. I think"}, {"start": "03:12:32", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "that's like a good happy middle ground"}, {"start": "03:12:34", "end": "03:12:39", "text": "with like national security and stuff."}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:41", "text": "There's too many there there there's"}, {"start": "03:12:39", "end": "03:12:42", "text": "there's, you know, there's no need for"}, {"start": "03:12:41", "end": "03:12:43", "text": ">> no"}, {"start": "03:12:42", "end": "03:12:45", "text": ">> tom foolery."}, {"start": "03:12:43", "end": "03:12:47", "text": ">> No, I will show you what I am."}, {"start": "03:12:45", "end": "03:12:48", "text": ">> Yeah. There's a lot of this cuz like,"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:50", "text": "you know, people say, \"Oh, they're"}, {"start": "03:12:48", "end": "03:12:52", "text": "getting warnings or like, oh, my phone,"}, {"start": "03:12:50", "end": "03:12:54", "text": "I'm hearing a clicking.\" It's like, just"}, {"start": "03:12:52", "end": "03:12:56", "text": "be overt. Let's just all just come into"}, {"start": "03:12:54", "end": "03:12:57", "text": "the light. The best antiseptic is"}, {"start": "03:12:56", "end": "03:12:59", "text": "sunlight. Let's just"}, {"start": "03:12:57", "end": "03:13:03", "text": ">> And that brings me to I had two"}, {"start": "03:12:59", "end": "03:13:07", "text": "different emails. We so groups of intel"}, {"start": "03:13:03", "end": "03:13:10", "text": "men, not my intelligence people"}, {"start": "03:13:07", "end": "03:13:13", "text": ">> believe that you are have been um you"}, {"start": "03:13:10", "end": "03:13:17", "text": "the the spy program"}, {"start": "03:13:13", "end": "03:13:19", "text": "um stingray centipede has been performed"}, {"start": "03:13:17", "end": "03:13:21", "text": "on your phone. They had to get a court"}, {"start": "03:13:19", "end": "03:13:23", "text": "order."}, {"start": "03:13:21", "end": "03:13:26", "text": "It's not like you did anything illegal."}, {"start": "03:13:23", "end": "03:13:28", "text": "It's a counter inelligence spy program."}, {"start": "03:13:26", "end": "03:13:31", "text": "It's called Stingray Centipede. That's"}, {"start": "03:13:28", "end": "03:13:33", "text": "what we think has happened to your"}, {"start": "03:13:31", "end": "03:13:36", "text": "phone. Another group said, \"This too"}, {"start": "03:13:33", "end": "03:13:38", "text": "sloppy. The United States government"}, {"start": "03:13:36", "end": "03:13:41", "text": "wouldn't steal your emails and let you"}, {"start": "03:13:38", "end": "03:13:43", "text": "know that your emails are gone. We think"}, {"start": "03:13:41", "end": "03:13:46", "text": "it's like China or Russia or Israel.\""}, {"start": "03:13:43", "end": "03:13:48", "text": ">> Oh, weird."}, {"start": "03:13:46", "end": "03:13:51", "text": ">> Keep you up at night."}, {"start": "03:13:48", "end": "03:13:53", "text": ">> Another thing. All right, last question"}, {"start": "03:13:51", "end": "03:13:56", "text": "here from the audience. Maybe my"}, {"start": "03:13:53", "end": "03:13:57", "text": "favorite question."}, {"start": "03:13:56", "end": "03:13:58", "text": ">> This is a tough question."}, {"start": "03:13:57", "end": "03:13:58", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:00", "text": ">> get ready."}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:03", "text": ">> I I I'm an open book. If I can answer"}, {"start": "03:14:00", "end": "03:14:05", "text": "it, I can answer it."}, {"start": "03:14:03", "end": "03:14:07", "text": ">> You ready? In the red corner, Victor or"}, {"start": "03:14:05", "end": "03:14:09", "text": "Oscar as we now know him. In the blue"}, {"start": "03:14:07", "end": "03:14:11", "text": "corner, Skinny Bob. Who wins? Or is it a"}, {"start": "03:14:09", "end": "03:14:14", "text": "draw?"}, {"start": "03:14:11", "end": "03:14:17", "text": ">> Okay, here's what I know. Skinny Bob has"}, {"start": "03:14:14", "end": "03:14:19", "text": "the same st owner signature and"}, {"start": "03:14:17", "end": "03:14:21", "text": "timestamp as the Victor video."}, {"start": "03:14:19", "end": "03:14:22", "text": ">> Yeah, you've pointed that out before. I"}, {"start": "03:14:21", "end": "03:14:23", "text": "don't know what that I don't know how."}, {"start": "03:14:22", "end": "03:14:25", "text": ">> Find that suspect."}, {"start": "03:14:23", "end": "03:14:27", "text": ">> I do find it interesting, but I also"}, {"start": "03:14:25", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "find that the it would have been much"}, {"start": "03:14:27", "end": "03:14:31", "text": "harder to put a time stamp on a film"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:34", "text": "than it is digitally. And so the time"}, {"start": "03:14:31", "end": "03:14:37", "text": "stamp that's on the Victor video is more"}, {"start": "03:14:34", "end": "03:14:40", "text": "impressive. A group of five special"}, {"start": "03:14:37", "end": "03:14:42", "text": "effects people said this that the that"}, {"start": "03:14:40", "end": "03:14:44", "text": "Skinny Bob was put through a program"}, {"start": "03:14:42", "end": "03:14:45", "text": "called Shutter Stock."}, {"start": "03:14:44", "end": "03:14:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Which is"}, {"start": "03:14:45", "end": "03:14:48", "text": ">> my daughter's got that. My"}, {"start": "03:14:47", "end": "03:14:50", "text": ">> daughter I've seen all that. I've done"}, {"start": "03:14:48", "end": "03:14:52", "text": "my due diligence on that. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:14:50", "end": "03:14:55", "text": ">> It was I'm going to tell you why."}, {"start": "03:14:52", "end": "03:14:59", "text": ">> And they can't again I can't figure this"}, {"start": "03:14:55", "end": "03:15:03", "text": "out. They can't figure out how the black"}, {"start": "03:14:59", "end": "03:15:06", "text": "triangle redaction was placed on that"}, {"start": "03:15:03", "end": "03:15:08", "text": "electronic film. not a real a film. They"}, {"start": "03:15:06", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "said that on a YouTube they were all"}, {"start": "03:15:08", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "sitting there like I don't know how you"}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:13", "text": "do that."}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:16", "text": ">> Yeah, corridor crew or whatever. Thank"}, {"start": "03:15:13", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "you. Now, that made me go, \"What?\""}, {"start": "03:15:16", "end": "03:15:21", "text": ">> When I looked into it as well, I saw the"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:23", "text": "filters were obviously fake, but the"}, {"start": "03:15:21", "end": "03:15:25", "text": "core video has still yet to be"}, {"start": "03:15:23", "end": "03:15:27", "text": ">> I believe it's real. And I and I think I"}, {"start": "03:15:25", "end": "03:15:30", "text": "know the provenence of it, which was you"}, {"start": "03:15:27", "end": "03:15:32", "text": "can let this out, but you have to put it"}, {"start": "03:15:30", "end": "03:15:33", "text": "through some sort of a filter to to give"}, {"start": "03:15:32", "end": "03:15:35", "text": "it a straw man argument that people can"}, {"start": "03:15:33", "end": "03:15:37", "text": "try and debunk it like, \"Oh, that's"}, {"start": "03:15:35", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "through shutter stock and it's over.\""}, {"start": "03:15:37", "end": "03:15:41", "text": "That is what I've been told about Skinny"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:43", "text": "Bob."}, {"start": "03:15:41", "end": "03:15:43", "text": ">> And that it was not in Russian"}, {"start": "03:15:43", "end": "03:15:46", "text": "captivity."}, {"start": "03:15:43", "end": "03:15:48", "text": ">> Like a plan leak once again."}, {"start": "03:15:46", "end": "03:15:49", "text": ">> I think so."}, {"start": "03:15:48", "end": "03:15:52", "text": ">> Okay, that's all the questions from the"}, {"start": "03:15:49", "end": "03:15:54", "text": "audience. Thank you for answering those."}, {"start": "03:15:52", "end": "03:15:57", "text": "We want to touch on one more thing."}, {"start": "03:15:54", "end": "03:16:00", "text": "Well, I just, you know, I I I I"}, {"start": "03:15:57", "end": "03:16:02", "text": "want to encourage people, maybe not to"}, {"start": "03:16:00", "end": "03:16:03", "text": "be as crazy as I have for after six"}, {"start": "03:16:02", "end": "03:16:06", "text": "years and all the money I've spent, but"}, {"start": "03:16:03", "end": "03:16:09", "text": "I just want to go over without petting"}, {"start": "03:16:06", "end": "03:16:11", "text": "myself, crediting the internet, just by"}, {"start": "03:16:09", "end": "03:16:13", "text": "going out on podcasts and doing this for"}, {"start": "03:16:11", "end": "03:16:15", "text": "six years, what other people have helped"}, {"start": "03:16:13", "end": "03:16:17", "text": "helped us. And I don't even think you"}, {"start": "03:16:15", "end": "03:16:20", "text": "even realize this is"}, {"start": "03:16:17", "end": "03:16:23", "text": ">> to my my group and and to the to the"}, {"start": "03:16:20", "end": "03:16:26", "text": "internet that um we have the first"}, {"start": "03:16:23", "end": "03:16:28", "text": "document out of Area 51, the Stanton log"}, {"start": "03:16:26", "end": "03:16:32", "text": "line. We have verified the Wilson Davis"}, {"start": "03:16:28", "end": "03:16:35", "text": "men me memo. We found two men um"}, {"start": "03:16:32", "end": "03:16:38", "text": "Casternick and another military general"}, {"start": "03:16:35", "end": "03:16:41", "text": "that were in the Wilson Davis memo."}, {"start": "03:16:38", "end": "03:16:43", "text": "Okay. We found those on documents on"}, {"start": "03:16:41", "end": "03:16:47", "text": "what's called the military bulletin"}, {"start": "03:16:43", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "board. It's like an internal um an"}, {"start": "03:16:47", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "internal"}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:52", "text": ">> memo board."}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:55", "text": ">> Memo board for DoD people. And somebody"}, {"start": "03:16:52", "end": "03:16:57", "text": "on the internet found the two names. One"}, {"start": "03:16:55", "end": "03:16:59", "text": "was a brigadier general and one was one"}, {"start": "03:16:57", "end": "03:17:02", "text": "was a a a um and they were in the"}, {"start": "03:16:59", "end": "03:17:04", "text": "scientific advisory. They had SA bang"}, {"start": "03:17:02", "end": "03:17:07", "text": "their name. These two names were on the"}, {"start": "03:17:04", "end": "03:17:10", "text": "Wilson Davis memo. We found them on"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:13", "text": "total innocuous documents on this"}, {"start": "03:17:10", "end": "03:17:16", "text": "military bulletin board. And I I'm happy"}, {"start": "03:17:13", "end": "03:17:17", "text": "to prove Eric Davis, you know, I don't"}, {"start": "03:17:16", "end": "03:17:18", "text": "know if he denies it or not."}, {"start": "03:17:17", "end": "03:17:20", "text": ">> Well, he definitely he definitely does"}, {"start": "03:17:18", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "not talk about it. He was asked about"}, {"start": "03:17:20", "end": "03:17:27", "text": "it. He's like, I will not talk. We found"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:31", "text": "Paul Kaminsky, USD a uh um um uh uh"}, {"start": "03:17:27", "end": "03:17:33", "text": "technology and um and Brigadier General"}, {"start": "03:17:31", "end": "03:17:35", "text": "Mike Costellik"}, {"start": "03:17:33", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "Od"}, {"start": "03:17:35", "end": "03:17:39", "text": "um and those were both on the Wilson"}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:42", "text": "Davis memos. People were saying those"}, {"start": "03:17:39", "end": "03:17:45", "text": "are fake generals and but we found them."}, {"start": "03:17:42", "end": "03:17:48", "text": "We found them on the you know innocuous"}, {"start": "03:17:45", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "military and I'm very proud of that. the"}, {"start": "03:17:48", "end": "03:17:53", "text": "internet. I think the biggest I think"}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:54", "text": "one of the biggest stories in euphology"}, {"start": "03:17:53", "end": "03:17:56", "text": "and I don't know I think people really"}, {"start": "03:17:54", "end": "03:17:58", "text": "do hate me. They don't want to see me"}, {"start": "03:17:56", "end": "03:17:59", "text": "win. We have proven"}, {"start": "03:17:58", "end": "03:18:01", "text": ">> I don't think that's true."}, {"start": "03:17:59", "end": "03:18:02", "text": ">> I'm I'm I'm being flippant."}, {"start": "03:18:01", "end": "03:18:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:18:02", "end": "03:18:08", "text": ">> But we have proven the OPNA BB the OP"}, {"start": "03:18:05", "end": "03:18:10", "text": "the U S P01 extraterrestrial recovery"}, {"start": "03:18:08", "end": "03:18:12", "text": "manual is is real. I've been in contact"}, {"start": "03:18:10", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "with Ryan Wood. Um"}, {"start": "03:18:12", "end": "03:18:16", "text": ">> yeah, he's done a lot of work on that."}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:18", "text": "He's got the measurements that that that"}, {"start": "03:18:16", "end": "03:18:19", "text": "he's got the the the raise Z,"}, {"start": "03:18:18", "end": "03:18:20", "text": ">> the crate sizes. Yeah, I mean I crate"}, {"start": "03:18:19", "end": "03:18:22", "text": "size."}, {"start": "03:18:20", "end": "03:18:23", "text": ">> I looked at all of the uh all of that as"}, {"start": "03:18:22", "end": "03:18:25", "text": "well. Yeah, it's very compelling."}, {"start": "03:18:23", "end": "03:18:26", "text": ">> Everything in that document is"}, {"start": "03:18:25", "end": "03:18:29", "text": "searchable. All of the names are"}, {"start": "03:18:26", "end": "03:18:30", "text": "retreads. S4, the blue room at right pad"}, {"start": "03:18:29", "end": "03:18:33", "text": "except one line."}, {"start": "03:18:30", "end": "03:18:35", "text": ">> Well, S4 was also there. There was like"}, {"start": "03:18:33", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "a that was a point of contention was the"}, {"start": "03:18:35", "end": "03:18:38", "text": "S-4."}, {"start": "03:18:37", "end": "03:18:40", "text": "Um that wouldn't"}, {"start": "03:18:38", "end": "03:18:42", "text": ">> you know there is an S4 at Tonapo. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:18:40", "end": "03:18:44", "text": "there's also Yeah. As for like just a"}, {"start": "03:18:42", "end": "03:18:45", "text": "storage facility, I think that that they"}, {"start": "03:18:44", "end": "03:18:47", "text": "use it for elsewhere."}, {"start": "03:18:45", "end": "03:18:50", "text": ">> There's one line that no one could"}, {"start": "03:18:47", "end": "03:18:52", "text": "figure out since 1954, where to bring"}, {"start": "03:18:50", "end": "03:18:55", "text": "living biological aliens,"}, {"start": "03:18:52", "end": "03:18:56", "text": ">> and it was a facility called Opnac"}, {"start": "03:18:55", "end": "03:18:58", "text": "BBS01."}, {"start": "03:18:56", "end": "03:19:01", "text": "And it said, \"This is where you take"}, {"start": "03:18:58", "end": "03:19:03", "text": "living that aren't degenerated, living"}, {"start": "03:19:01", "end": "03:19:05", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "03:19:03", "end": "03:19:07", "text": ">> specimens.\" No."}, {"start": "03:19:05", "end": "03:19:10", "text": ">> Sitting there one day, Mr. Stewart, this"}, {"start": "03:19:07", "end": "03:19:12", "text": "is on YouTube on a chat chat room. I"}, {"start": "03:19:10", "end": "03:19:15", "text": "think I know what opnack in the in that"}, {"start": "03:19:12", "end": "03:19:17", "text": "you've been talking about is it's the"}, {"start": "03:19:15", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "oceanic platform for the North Atlantic"}, {"start": "03:19:17", "end": "03:19:25", "text": "and the Caribbean. And I'm like"}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:27", "text": "layman's terms offshore platform."}, {"start": "03:19:25", "end": "03:19:28", "text": ">> Mr. Stewart, they've got biological"}, {"start": "03:19:27", "end": "03:19:30", "text": "specimens. They don't know if they're a"}, {"start": "03:19:28", "end": "03:19:32", "text": "contaminant to the continental United"}, {"start": "03:19:30", "end": "03:19:34", "text": "States and the people. They would want"}, {"start": "03:19:32", "end": "03:19:36", "text": "them on a on a facility that's separate"}, {"start": "03:19:34", "end": "03:19:37", "text": "offshore. also know where you can drive"}, {"start": "03:19:36", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "to."}, {"start": "03:19:37", "end": "03:19:45", "text": ">> Right. Exactly. And he and now another"}, {"start": "03:19:41", "end": "03:19:47", "text": "uh uh Italian guy named Adriano Ando, I"}, {"start": "03:19:45", "end": "03:19:50", "text": "think if I'm saying his name right, says"}, {"start": "03:19:47", "end": "03:19:53", "text": "I know what the BBS is. It was the"}, {"start": "03:19:50", "end": "03:19:55", "text": "Bermuda Biological Station attached to"}, {"start": "03:19:53", "end": "03:19:56", "text": "the Offshore platform."}, {"start": "03:19:55", "end": "03:19:57", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "03:19:56", "end": "03:20:00", "text": ">> Wait a minute. Sean Stewart, the"}, {"start": "03:19:57", "end": "03:20:02", "text": "investigator, who created Opnak and BBS?"}, {"start": "03:20:00", "end": "03:20:04", "text": "A guy by the name of Now I sound like"}, {"start": "03:20:02", "end": "03:20:06", "text": "UAP Gerb."}, {"start": "03:20:04", "end": "03:20:10", "text": "a guy by the name of Dr. Arthur"}, {"start": "03:20:06", "end": "03:20:13", "text": "Sherlock. He was a millionaire. He"}, {"start": "03:20:10", "end": "03:20:15", "text": "donated this platform to who? The United"}, {"start": "03:20:13", "end": "03:20:17", "text": "States Navy. They didn't talk about"}, {"start": "03:20:15", "end": "03:20:19", "text": "aliens in his bio. And what else did he"}, {"start": "03:20:17", "end": "03:20:22", "text": "help the Navy with?"}, {"start": "03:20:19", "end": "03:20:24", "text": ">> Propulsion. I know you're interesting."}, {"start": "03:20:22", "end": "03:20:27", "text": ">> Interesting. Art Sherlock, Dr. Art"}, {"start": "03:20:24", "end": "03:20:28", "text": "Sherlock was like a was like a year um"}, {"start": "03:20:27", "end": "03:20:30", "text": "50s"}, {"start": "03:20:28", "end": "03:20:35", "text": ">> 40s but they used this facility for"}, {"start": "03:20:30", "end": "03:20:38", "text": "aliens in 54 up until ' 62 when S2 Alpha"}, {"start": "03:20:35", "end": "03:20:40", "text": "at Papoose Lake was built and we have"}, {"start": "03:20:38", "end": "03:20:41", "text": "the Foye document from that and"}, {"start": "03:20:40", "end": "03:20:43", "text": ">> they transferred from there to Utah."}, {"start": "03:20:41", "end": "03:20:46", "text": ">> That's correct. That's correct."}, {"start": "03:20:43", "end": "03:20:47", "text": ">> And in the mid '9s uh I believe the"}, {"start": "03:20:46", "end": "03:20:49", "text": "Papoose Lake facility has been under"}, {"start": "03:20:47", "end": "03:20:50", "text": "caretaker status"}, {"start": "03:20:49", "end": "03:20:53", "text": ">> since since the mid90s"}, {"start": "03:20:50", "end": "03:20:54", "text": ">> and probably since Bob Lazar. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "03:20:53", "end": "03:20:57", "text": "The minute Blazard came out that blew"}, {"start": "03:20:54", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "them up that was that that the wheels"}, {"start": "03:20:57", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "were implemented to to to switch the"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:00", "text": "program."}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:03", "text": ">> I think it's interesting too because"}, {"start": "03:21:00", "end": "03:21:05", "text": "Victor had mentioned that the alien was"}, {"start": "03:21:03", "end": "03:21:10", "text": "brought to"}, {"start": "03:21:05", "end": "03:21:13", "text": "um S4 in '89. I wonder if that was the"}, {"start": "03:21:10", "end": "03:21:15", "text": "big thing that made the Russians leave"}, {"start": "03:21:13", "end": "03:21:18", "text": "cuz there was something there was some"}, {"start": "03:21:15", "end": "03:21:22", "text": "discovery according to Bob that happened"}, {"start": "03:21:18", "end": "03:21:23", "text": "in at S4 at Papoose. the Russians"}, {"start": "03:21:22", "end": "03:21:24", "text": "disparted with"}, {"start": "03:21:23", "end": "03:21:25", "text": ">> and they were working very closely with"}, {"start": "03:21:24", "end": "03:21:27", "text": "the Russians and if you're working with"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:28", "text": "the Russians it must have been of utter"}, {"start": "03:21:27", "end": "03:21:30", "text": "importance to work with like your enemy"}, {"start": "03:21:28", "end": "03:21:32", "text": "like that like so closely leave them"}, {"start": "03:21:30", "end": "03:21:34", "text": "into like the most"}, {"start": "03:21:32", "end": "03:21:36", "text": ">> like deepest part of the bowels of like"}, {"start": "03:21:34", "end": "03:21:37", "text": "the secrecy and then just to kick them"}, {"start": "03:21:36", "end": "03:21:39", "text": "out there must have been like some"}, {"start": "03:21:37", "end": "03:21:40", "text": "massive discovery"}, {"start": "03:21:39", "end": "03:21:42", "text": ">> and then this guy saying that the alien"}, {"start": "03:21:40", "end": "03:21:45", "text": "was brought there in '89. So I wonder if"}, {"start": "03:21:42", "end": "03:21:47", "text": "that was the reason they were like get"}, {"start": "03:21:45", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "the Russians out of here get us some"}, {"start": "03:21:47", "end": "03:21:52", "text": "psychics in the mountains of Vermont."}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "03:21:52", "end": "03:21:58", "text": "I I I I don't I I I wish I knew the"}, {"start": "03:21:55", "end": "03:22:00", "text": "providence of that being like what what"}, {"start": "03:21:58", "end": "03:22:02", "text": "crash or what hard landing. Do you know"}, {"start": "03:22:00", "end": "03:22:04", "text": "that two remote view here's another"}, {"start": "03:22:02", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "thing folks separate from John Stewart."}, {"start": "03:22:04", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "Do you know that two remote viewing"}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:12", "text": "groups remote viewed that this alien"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:15", "text": "interview video opposed from me? Yeah."}, {"start": "03:22:12", "end": "03:22:17", "text": "And both said we're seeing a tan being."}, {"start": "03:22:15", "end": "03:22:18", "text": "He's sick. He's distressed. There's a"}, {"start": "03:22:17", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "partition"}, {"start": "03:22:18", "end": "03:22:22", "text": ">> and he's in a no man's land."}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:24", "text": ">> No man's land is Papoose Lake. That's a"}, {"start": "03:22:22", "end": "03:22:24", "text": "nuclear fallout basically."}, {"start": "03:22:24", "end": "03:22:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:22:24", "end": "03:22:30", "text": ">> And um to the point where Richard Dolan"}, {"start": "03:22:27", "end": "03:22:32", "text": "was in on the session is like John"}, {"start": "03:22:30", "end": "03:22:36", "text": "Stewart's Don Coyote the windmill the"}, {"start": "03:22:32", "end": "03:22:38", "text": "alien interview Richard Dolan said I"}, {"start": "03:22:36", "end": "03:22:41", "text": "believe it's real from this blind this"}, {"start": "03:22:38", "end": "03:22:43", "text": "blind uh study and from what has John"}, {"start": "03:22:41", "end": "03:22:46", "text": "John has told us. Do you think it kind"}, {"start": "03:22:43", "end": "03:22:48", "text": "of matches the description loosely to uh"}, {"start": "03:22:46", "end": "03:22:50", "text": "Dan Bers's but not entirely like there"}, {"start": "03:22:48", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "Dan's had like scales on it too and and"}, {"start": "03:22:50", "end": "03:22:54", "text": "was like Dan was in a biosphere. These"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:55", "text": "people specifically said a partition and"}, {"start": "03:22:54", "end": "03:22:56", "text": "we're seeing a partition."}, {"start": "03:22:55", "end": "03:22:59", "text": ">> Yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah, it"}, {"start": "03:22:56", "end": "03:23:01", "text": "was a biosphere to to protect it. Okay."}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:04", "text": "Yeah, I just want to say go for it. You"}, {"start": "03:23:01", "end": "03:23:07", "text": "know, um"}, {"start": "03:23:04", "end": "03:23:09", "text": ">> that uh unlike Paul Benowitz um that"}, {"start": "03:23:07", "end": "03:23:11", "text": "that"}, {"start": "03:23:09", "end": "03:23:14", "text": "did not have a good interaction, I I"}, {"start": "03:23:11", "end": "03:23:16", "text": "actually emailed Bill Moore"}, {"start": "03:23:14", "end": "03:23:18", "text": ">> who everyone told me he would never"}, {"start": "03:23:16", "end": "03:23:20", "text": "email me back and he has emailed me"}, {"start": "03:23:18", "end": "03:23:22", "text": "back. He also is so frustrated with me"}, {"start": "03:23:20", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "told me not to email him again till"}, {"start": "03:23:22", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "March."}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:25", "text": ">> Till March."}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:27", "text": ">> And as Rick Dodie said, did you do"}, {"start": "03:23:25", "end": "03:23:29", "text": "realize you're you made Bill Moore"}, {"start": "03:23:27", "end": "03:23:31", "text": "crazy? the guy that's supposed to the"}, {"start": "03:23:29", "end": "03:23:33", "text": "reverse. I said I charged Castanza him."}, {"start": "03:23:31", "end": "03:23:35", "text": "He literally said do not contact me till"}, {"start": "03:23:33", "end": "03:23:36", "text": "March 15th to the eyes of March. I just"}, {"start": "03:23:35", "end": "03:23:37", "text": "want to say one thing."}, {"start": "03:23:36", "end": "03:23:40", "text": ">> Why till March 15th?"}, {"start": "03:23:37", "end": "03:23:42", "text": ">> It's the eyes of March. He's very hyper"}, {"start": "03:23:40", "end": "03:23:45", "text": "intelligent. If if I I would tell you he"}, {"start": "03:23:42", "end": "03:23:48", "text": "was Victor, but I he said he said he's"}, {"start": "03:23:45", "end": "03:23:49", "text": "not, but he knows everything about it."}, {"start": "03:23:48", "end": "03:23:51", "text": "And I just want to tell you what he left"}, {"start": "03:23:49", "end": "03:23:54", "text": "me. What he said to me."}, {"start": "03:23:51", "end": "03:23:56", "text": ">> Um claims he wasn't Victor. claims he"}, {"start": "03:23:54", "end": "03:23:58", "text": "had the neck tie that Victor wore that"}, {"start": "03:23:56", "end": "03:24:01", "text": "he threw it away six years ago that he"}, {"start": "03:23:58", "end": "03:24:03", "text": "knows who Victor is and that he's played"}, {"start": "03:24:01", "end": "03:24:06", "text": "a small part in this. He said it was a"}, {"start": "03:24:03", "end": "03:24:08", "text": "hoax. Listen now, why would John Stewart"}, {"start": "03:24:06", "end": "03:24:11", "text": "debunk his because I don't care if it's"}, {"start": "03:24:08", "end": "03:24:13", "text": "real or not. He said it was a hoax, but"}, {"start": "03:24:11", "end": "03:24:16", "text": "then he says, \"But if I tell you the"}, {"start": "03:24:13", "end": "03:24:20", "text": "truth of that film and if I tell you the"}, {"start": "03:24:16", "end": "03:24:22", "text": "truth of what that film is about, you"}, {"start": "03:24:20", "end": "03:24:24", "text": "and I will be swinging from an end of a"}, {"start": "03:24:22", "end": "03:24:26", "text": "rope.\" That is in an email from an 84"}, {"start": "03:24:24", "end": "03:24:29", "text": "year old former"}, {"start": "03:24:26", "end": "03:24:33", "text": ">> asset of the CIA. He was a asset of the"}, {"start": "03:24:29", "end": "03:24:36", "text": "CIA, not of Rick Dodie. And um scary. If"}, {"start": "03:24:33", "end": "03:24:40", "text": "I tell you the truth, you and I will"}, {"start": "03:24:36", "end": "03:24:40", "text": "swing from an end of a rope."}, {"start": "03:24:40", "end": "03:24:42", "text": ">> Wild."}, {"start": "03:24:40", "end": "03:24:47", "text": ">> You ask your viewers, what would you I'm"}, {"start": "03:24:42", "end": "03:24:50", "text": "going to keep going and uh"}, {"start": "03:24:47", "end": "03:24:53", "text": "I I I will find Victor's complete"}, {"start": "03:24:50", "end": "03:24:54", "text": "identity. Um,"}, {"start": "03:24:53", "end": "03:24:56", "text": ">> is that the mission?"}, {"start": "03:24:54", "end": "03:24:57", "text": ">> Got to be the mission."}, {"start": "03:24:56", "end": "03:24:59", "text": ">> I'm on the board. I can't get off. It's"}, {"start": "03:24:57", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "like the octopus. That octopus."}, {"start": "03:24:59", "end": "03:25:02", "text": ">> You prove Victor. Yeah. You prove"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:02", "text": "Victor. You prove the alien or you prove"}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:04", "text": "the video."}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:05", "text": ">> Prove the alien or at least prove the"}, {"start": "03:25:04", "end": "03:25:08", "text": "government did it and it was a scop."}, {"start": "03:25:05", "end": "03:25:12", "text": "Yeah. And and and and again, I go on"}, {"start": "03:25:08", "end": "03:25:14", "text": "record. I 97 to 98% I I know the United"}, {"start": "03:25:12", "end": "03:25:16", "text": "States government had a hand in filming"}, {"start": "03:25:14", "end": "03:25:18", "text": "this or at least recreating and filming"}, {"start": "03:25:16", "end": "03:25:21", "text": "this. I am confident. Well, I'll tell"}, {"start": "03:25:18", "end": "03:25:23", "text": "you where my conviction level has been"}, {"start": "03:25:21", "end": "03:25:25", "text": "raised incredibly due to this"}, {"start": "03:25:23", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "conversation. So, I want to thank you"}, {"start": "03:25:25", "end": "03:25:30", "text": "for coming here and enlightening me uh"}, {"start": "03:25:27", "end": "03:25:31", "text": "you know with your research and I think"}, {"start": "03:25:30", "end": "03:25:33", "text": "um I think you know there are some"}, {"start": "03:25:31", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "people that give you a bad rap for some"}, {"start": "03:25:33", "end": "03:25:38", "text": "reason. I can't figure it out. I I guess"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:40", "text": "I guess it's you have very aggro energy,"}, {"start": "03:25:38", "end": "03:25:42", "text": "but I mean it's in a good it's directed"}, {"start": "03:25:40", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "in a way that we we like, you know, we"}, {"start": "03:25:42", "end": "03:25:47", "text": "want people like you kicking down doors"}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:50", "text": "and taking names cuz I'm not going to do"}, {"start": "03:25:47", "end": "03:25:52", "text": "it. I'm not that person. You know, I'm a"}, {"start": "03:25:50", "end": "03:25:54", "text": "person who has conversations and who who"}, {"start": "03:25:52", "end": "03:25:56", "text": "thinks philosophically maybe in my quiet"}, {"start": "03:25:54", "end": "03:25:58", "text": "little corner, but um you're somebody uh"}, {"start": "03:25:56", "end": "03:26:00", "text": "and and UAP Gerb is another person who's"}, {"start": "03:25:58", "end": "03:26:02", "text": "kicking doors and"}, {"start": "03:26:00", "end": "03:26:04", "text": ">> I I think we need more people like that."}, {"start": "03:26:02", "end": "03:26:06", "text": ">> Yeah. regardless of clashing"}, {"start": "03:26:04", "end": "03:26:09", "text": "personalities. I think uh yeah, I think"}, {"start": "03:26:06", "end": "03:26:12", "text": "what you're doing is a is a net positive"}, {"start": "03:26:09", "end": "03:26:16", "text": "to to some extent and um I'd like to I'd"}, {"start": "03:26:12", "end": "03:26:17", "text": "like to see you continue that safely and"}, {"start": "03:26:16", "end": "03:26:19", "text": "you know wish you all the safety in your"}, {"start": "03:26:17", "end": "03:26:22", "text": "journey and hopefully you get to find"}, {"start": "03:26:19", "end": "03:26:25", "text": "out who Victor is. Uh if anybody wants"}, {"start": "03:26:22", "end": "03:26:28", "text": "to support you um where can they find"}, {"start": "03:26:25", "end": "03:26:29", "text": "you? What can they do? Yeah, I I think"}, {"start": "03:26:28", "end": "03:26:31", "text": "the best way and it's worked for six"}, {"start": "03:26:29", "end": "03:26:35", "text": "years and and I've been told that this"}, {"start": "03:26:31", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "familiarity, this personal touch is"}, {"start": "03:26:35", "end": "03:26:39", "text": "probably what got me a lot of people to"}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:40", "text": "help me. Instead of them having to call"}, {"start": "03:26:39", "end": "03:26:42", "text": "a company and go through a switchboard"}, {"start": "03:26:40", "end": "03:26:45", "text": "and get a hold of me, I leave my email."}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:48", "text": ">> My email is uh John Jen without the H."}, {"start": "03:26:45", "end": "03:26:52", "text": "My middle name Allen A. My last name"}, {"start": "03:26:48", "end": "03:26:53", "text": "Stuart S Wrol.com."}, {"start": "03:26:52", "end": "03:26:58", "text": "Don't laugh that I have AOL. I'm an old"}, {"start": "03:26:53", "end": "03:27:00", "text": "guy. and on axe um John Stewart Ryel."}, {"start": "03:26:58", "end": "03:27:02", "text": ">> Well, John, you're uh you're a true"}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:04", "text": "gentleman. Thank you so much for for"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:05", "text": "coming here and I hope we covered uh"}, {"start": "03:27:04", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "most of what you wanted to talk about"}, {"start": "03:27:05", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "today. I I know you probably got a lot"}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:09", "text": "more."}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:11", "text": ">> No, no, no, we did. It's it's been it's"}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:14", "text": "just it's it's been uh"}, {"start": "03:27:11", "end": "03:27:16", "text": ">> I'm I'm I am just so uh honored to be"}, {"start": "03:27:14", "end": "03:27:20", "text": "here. It's been a great conversation. I"}, {"start": "03:27:16", "end": "03:27:23", "text": "hope um uh with how people view you on"}, {"start": "03:27:20", "end": "03:27:24", "text": "the internet that this this moves my"}, {"start": "03:27:23", "end": "03:27:27", "text": "investigation and the conversation and"}, {"start": "03:27:24", "end": "03:27:29", "text": "and moves the needle in a in a good"}, {"start": "03:27:27", "end": "03:27:30", "text": "direction that will help us solve this"}, {"start": "03:27:29", "end": "03:27:31", "text": "and I can move on."}, {"start": "03:27:30", "end": "03:27:31", "text": ">> I'm pretty certain it will."}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:36", "text": ">> Thanks for your time."}, {"start": "03:27:32", "end": "03:27:36", "text": ">> Thank you, sir."}]

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So, if you guys"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "could send me a text message or figure"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "out a way to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "yeah, give me some information how I can"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "send you guys that video, that would be"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "awesome. I'd love to hear your take on"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "it. Appreciate you,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "bro. What the is that?"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to a"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "very special edition of Debriefed. My"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "name is Chris Ramsey and today we're"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "going to be taking a look at triangles."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Not just any triangles, the triangles of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "a flying variety. The stealthy, dark,"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "ominous triangles that linger over so"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "many people's heads, including a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "people that have called into this very"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "show. As you know, I have a 800 number."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "It is a toll-free number. you can call"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and you can tell us about your sighting."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Now, we've usually limited those calls"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "to a minute. Uh that has been lifted. I"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "think I think it's a 10-minute limit at"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "this point. I would encourage you to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "keep it short to be a part of the intro."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "But every now and then, I've decided"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "with your help and the help of the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "audience to put together a sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "compilation of some of the most"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "interesting calls that we've received."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "And I thought it would be really fitting"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "if we categorize them. And today's"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "category is going to be these sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "ominous black triangles, whether the"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "TR3B, TR3A, what have you. But I've also"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "prepared"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "somewhat of a documentary that I was"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "going to uh edit and put out there and I"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "just never got around to it. But I have"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "these interviews and so we're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "splice those in among a lot of your"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "phone calls. So folks, without any"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "further ado,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> when I was about 10 or 11, I was in"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Mountainberg, Arkansas,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "and it was right when the 1979"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Taylor Swift album came out. I think it"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "was 2014."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "I was listening it listening to it on a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "radio with my cousin. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "out of nowhere these triangle"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "UFO objects that formed a larger"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "triangle appeared above us. Our phones"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "shut off, the radio shut offs,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "and then out of nowhere they were gone,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "but there was no noise. And I've been"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "trying to get answers to this day. I"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "still don't know what it was."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> So, I was just driving, you know, like,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "and like I said, there was there's"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "nothing around. There's no light."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "There's no like nothing, right? Trees,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "pitch black. So I was just driving and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "then I was going up a big hill and then"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "I just noticed like lights in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "right? So I just looked just because So"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "at that point they were really far so I"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "was like, \"Oh, that's a plane.\" But"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "there was no like flashing lights like"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "you see like on most of the planes. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "so as I was driving up"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "now I see like bigger lights and three"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "lights and they were closer. They were"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "getting closer. I didn't see like the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "movement at that moment. I was driving,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "you know, and just like I looked again"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "and I just saw like three bigger lights."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "I don't know why, but my first instinct"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "was to there was a house there, but"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "there was no like beams of light coming"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "out of the the three lights. Like it was"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "just like lights, you know, and uh I"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "just parked where the the house was"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "because the lights were like really"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "really low at this point. Twice the the"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "the the height of the the house maybe."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Wow. Okay. So, pretty low. Not not high"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "enough for an airplane."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> No, I could see like they were bigger"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "because it was closer, right? So, I"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "stopped. I parked cuz I I was like,"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "\"What the hell is this?\" I rolled down"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "the window to see if I could hear"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "something cuz like I thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "plane. Not really. But no sound"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "whatsoever. No. No sound. And it was not"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "moving. It was there. At that moment, I"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "freaked out and I left. I was like, my"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "heart was racing. I left. And I was like"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "maybe three minutes from home. I drove."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "I kept looking. I I could still see the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "light, like the the three lights. I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "didn't see them move, but as I was"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "driving,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "I could see them like further away. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "they were they they weren't as like"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "close to the house. So like for sure"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "they were moving."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Um and then 3 minutes later when I got"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "home, they were gone. But all the the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "you know the from that moment at the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "house to my house I could see the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "lights. My heart was racing and I I"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "couldn't sleep after for a while. Like a"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "few a few hours I was like yeah I was I"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "was freaked out at that point. Even now"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "I'm saying it I'm like did I really see"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "that? Maybe because it's been a while"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "but like I'm like it really happened"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "like it's weird right? But um yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "told a few people. And crazy story,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "my dad years prior to that, like I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "know how many years, he saw something on"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "top of the same house. I don't know. It"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "sounds so crazy. It sounds like"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": " but like I'm I'm telling you."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "And now every time I go by this house,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "I'm like UFO UFO house. There's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "something there. I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "something that I've never seen before."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Hi, Patrick from Germany here. In July"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "2013 in Germany near the French border,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "um I had a close encounter with my"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "ex-girlfriend. Um around 10:30 at night,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "my partner and I uh saw a massive pitch"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "black triangular craft that just"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "descended uh and stopped just 10 m or 30"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "ft above us. It had three bright lights,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "made no sound whatsoever, and seemed to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "paralyze us. We couldn't move or react"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "and uh the triangle then after"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "performing a sharp zigzag movement shot"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "off into the sky just leaving streaks of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "light behind. It was so fast we couldn't"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "believe it. We felt confused almost like"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "time had war. That momently moment"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "completely changed me uh forever. Before"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I was a strict atheist and now I just"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "know that there's more out there."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> Yeah. So, um, this happened when I was"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "like 12 years old. I was staying at my"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "grandmother's house with my father and"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "my family. And we were driving home from"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "some family gathering. It might have"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "been 10 11:00 at night. And as we were"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "approaching my grandmother's house, you"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "know, it was sort of like a relatively"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "hilly kind of area. And you could see"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "her house, you know, far off in the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "distance, a good half mile away, a"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "little bit down the hill. And from the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "backseat of the car, I could see the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "house, but in the sky behind it, I could"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "see this perfect clear shape of like a"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "triangle spacecraft with a glowing"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "lights at each end and one in the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "center. And I remember thinking to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "myself like, that's a UFO."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "My son and I and my girlfriend were"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "leaving there when we saw"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "uh a light in the distance that very"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "quickly, very quickly went from a tiny"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "dot to something very big. And it was"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "three lights that"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "on the corners of a gigantic black"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "triangle."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "It It was huge. It was very low and"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "slow. I mean, this is something that you"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "could probably hit with a rock from. It"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "was so low. And um it was a giant black"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "triangle, huge, unbelievably large with"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "a round"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "shimmering glow coming from the point of"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "each tri uh of the triangles."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Uh when it stopped, it sort of tipped"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "upward a little bit. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "that had anything to do with"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "deceleration,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "but it stopped dead over the top of us,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "turned 90° to the right. So, the the the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "point of the triangle was now pointed"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "off to the west, and then it shot off in"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "that direction."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Um, this is something I probably"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "wouldn't have uh reported if it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "for the fact that um there was a a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "number of people who saw it too. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "in a highly populated part of California"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "and all these uh independent reports"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "were taken by one particular"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "UFO reporting group."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "um circles with numbers in them, but you"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "12 or 15 people who didn't know each"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "other, weren't connected, and were all"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "reporting seeing the same thing that we"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "saw."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> This had so it had three sort of like"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "were they were they colorful lights on"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the edges or"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Well, it was a kind somewhat of a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "strange uh color. I wouldn't call it"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "yellow or white. It was, but it had a"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "shimmer to it that was odd looking"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "straight up into it. Uh I think some"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "kind of energy source boiling out of"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "there. But uh uh"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> say boiling. So it was like was it like"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "a roing sort of rolling?"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> Yeah. On a very tiny scale, not big, but"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "uh uh vibrational look to it that uh uh"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> Did you see a sphere in the lights? Like"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "was there like a clear bulb there?"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "didn't seem like, oh, here's a light so"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "you don't run into it because it was"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "embedded in the surface. So, it was sort"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "of beneath the surface and you don't"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "fully see it"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> until it's directly over you. So, I"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "think it had something to do with um"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "keeping it lofted,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> the propulsion or something."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> Yeah. What What is this? Is this u"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "something some earthbased agency has? I"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "don't know where they hide such a"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "monstrosity. maybe under the sea, but uh"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "it was huge."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "And uh if it is"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "an earth-based agency, I think that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "would be the reason they stopped"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "directly over the top of us. They knew"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "we would be at that muon meeting and uh"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "knew where we were at the time."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> You believe it stopped over over you"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "specifically? I do because you know"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "there's highly populated area and why"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "you know it'd be a really huge"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "coincidence to stop over the top of us"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and then shoot off now. Could have been"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "aliens on board piloting this thing too."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "Who knows? Don't know. It was definitely"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "technology that's not known to be in the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "possession of humans."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> And um you were in the car at this"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "point?"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> Who was driving? Uh, my son was driving."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "My girlfriend was in the back seat"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "looking straight up through the glass."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "She got a real good look at it. Had a"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "very strange sort of uh semi- gloss"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "black"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "uh texture to it. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> you described it like scales almost."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> like a tiling like a staggered tile like"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "almost."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> Yeah, something like that. And that"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "would be one way that uh"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "uh fits the description. I started off,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "well, again, started off because I was"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "at Muon"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "and I got a a call"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "probably in early 2013 or mid 2013 that"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "there was a a guy out in southwestern"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Ontario who apparently had witnessed a"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "black triangular craft at about 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "distance. And I found that to be pretty"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "interesting when I read the report"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "because he said that he had seen it very"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "clearly. he was able to describe the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "texture of the craft. So that got me"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "interested in the black triangular craft"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "at that time. Uh met with him, very"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "credible witness still today. Uh didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "come across as a UFO fanatic. He knew"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "nothing about UFOs at the time. He"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "wasn't an alien. He wasn't interested in"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "the topic. He was just freaked out that"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "he had this experience. So, uh, and as I"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "was investigating his account, it came I"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "I started realizing I go, \"Well, if you"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "saw this, maybe some other people saw"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "it, too, cuz I mean, it's not like he"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "couldn't have seen it that close and be"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the only person.\" Uh, in his case, I"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "think that he at that night that he saw"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "it, I don't think there were other"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "people there. I would have found out"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "about it because I investigated the the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "area. But I immediately came to find out"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "that in the southwestern Ontario region,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "there were multiple cases of people who"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "had witnessed a black triangular craft."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "And this was being posted through the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Muon uh network. That was interesting"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "because it immediately"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "raised a red flag to me cuz I saw how"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "many there were. And when you see the"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "number and you see I I think there was"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "over 200"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "sightings in southwestern Ontario alone"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "within a period of 2 years."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> What's his example of the sighting that"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "he saw?"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> So he was driving he had a red pickup if"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "I'm not wrong and he was driving home uh"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "from a friend's house. It was 2:00 in"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "the morning and this is right next to a"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "place called Lynen, Ontario. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "such a small"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "town that you you you blink. I think"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "there's just one one crossroad there."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "There's a church. There's a couple of"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "houses, maybe a little store, and that's"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "it. And there's a cemetery. So, he's"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "coming back driving on this country"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "road. And he says he saw what he thought"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "was a helicopter on fire. He says it"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "looked like a big orange flamy thing,"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "but it looked like an orange fire and it"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "was hovering and coming down slowly. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "he said it's not an airplane. He he"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "figured maybe it's a helicopter. So he"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "turned cuz he saw it crossed over the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "road and it was going to the right. So"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "he turned on this road thinking maybe if"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "they crash I'll be able to go and help"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "them. So, as he's driving, he gets to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "the point where he now has a view of the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "church in Lynden. And he says the object"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "was hovering right above the church"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "tower and it was probably maybe 100 ft"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "from where he was. So, he stopped the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "truck and to his right was this"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "cemetery, this little old cemetery. He"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "puts the car the truck in park. Now,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "he's in the middle of the road, but it's"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "he says there's nobody there. It's 2:00"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "in the morning. It was quiet. He just"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "stepped out of the truck and he's got"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "one foot in the truck, one foot out, and"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "he's looking at it and he's going, \"What"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "am I looking at?\" Like he saw that it"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "was a triangular craft with what he"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "described as an orange ball of fire in"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "the center of it. And he says in an"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "instant the object literally he said it"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "almost looked like it disappeared and"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "appeared right below the street light 20"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "ft in front of him over the street. And"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "he says he got super scared because he"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "couldn't understand how fast that"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "happened. So he says immediately he"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "thought this was some type of a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "projector. He he thought maybe they're"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "projecting this in a way and there's"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "like he goes maybe I'm on candid camera"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "like he says there's something they're"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "going to come out with balloons and say"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "we got you and"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> it's probably the most logical reasoning"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "that you could have for seeing something"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> that's that's what he said. He goes I"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "was sure they were projecting it. So he"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "goes I started looking around to see if"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "there was people or if there was"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "something cuz he goes there's just no"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "way this is possible. But yet he said it"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "was there and it was quiet. The first"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "thing he says was black. He said it"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "looked like it was a a shiny. He called"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "it diamond black. I don't know why he"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "said diamond black, but he says it"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "looked like a shiny diamond because he"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "said the top of it, it wasn't like a"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "flat triangle. He says the top of it was"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "kind of like like a pyramid, but it"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "wasn't a full pyramid. It's like as if"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "like it went in and then it went up. So"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "he goes, \"I could see that there was"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "something on the top that was pointy.\""}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "And he said the texture, he was it was"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "so close that he was able to look at it"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "and said it looked like little bricks,"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "like little rectangular black diamond"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "texture. That's what he called it. And"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "he says he's looking at this thing and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "in the center he says it looked like"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "lava was just moving in the center of it"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "like it was just boiling hot lava. and"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "he thought, \"What the hell am I looking"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "at?\" And it had three lights, one on"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "each end. He says they were white"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "lights. At a certain point while we were"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "talking, he says it could have had a"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "fourth light, he said, but I don't"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "remember. He says, \"I just remember it"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "tilting like this.\" And it he said it"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "moved over to the right at such an"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "incredible speed over the cemetery that"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "was right to his right there. And he"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "says it just stopped and he said there"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "was a a red laser that came down and it"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "was like a he called it like a sewing"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "machine. It was like dut and it was like"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "scanning the cemetery ground like that."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "And when he saw that he says that's when"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "I got scared. He said cuz I thought"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "maybe what if it shoots that laser at"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "me. This guy doesn't know what he's"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "looking at. He's just going like what"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "the hell is going on? He gets in the"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "truck. He like he goes back into the"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "truck cuz he was afraid. and he looks"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "and he says it tilted again, but this"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "time it went really slowly over the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "trees and it went out of sight. So he"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "says, \"I bolted out of there and went"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "right home think and went on the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "internet thinking this is going to be"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "like in the news like somebody's going"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "to see this cuz he goes there's just no"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "way that I'm the only guy who saw this."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Never wanted to go public. Doesn't want"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "his name to go public. I mean, if if"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "he's looking for attention, he certainly"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "didn't want public attention. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "always been interesting when you get"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "these very credible witnesses who don't"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "want anybody to know that they saw this"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "because they know it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> Hi, my name is Aaron and live in"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Colorado Springs. Um, back in 2019, I"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "just uh there was a particular week"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "where I just noticed a ton of black"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "helicopters flying around um just day"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "after day uh multiple kind of together"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "in formation and and uh flying solo they"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "shaking the house. But uh one night I"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "was coming home and kind of saw"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "something off in the distance. um clear"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "night. Um but as it came overhead, it"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "was like blocking out the stars. It was"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "at least 50 to 100 ft above me. And as"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "it came right over me, it was this black"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "triangle. No lights, no nothing. Just"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "blocking out the stars. It was like soap"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "opera effect on your TV. Just so smooth,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "flying super slow. Just came right over"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "me and just kept going off into the"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "distance."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "Uh my name is Nell and my encounter took"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "place in 1992 with my father and older"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "brother. We were outside my brother's"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "house at uh in York, Pennsylvania and we"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "saw a triangular ship um fly over and it"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "had two fighter jets near each rear"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "corner trying to force a landing is what"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "my brother and father said. It was a"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "triangle. It wasn't a stealth fighter"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "like everyone tries to say that it was."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "It was very confusing."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": ">> And after that documentary aired, um, he"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "actually called me and he said to me,"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "\"Mate, that story that was on TV"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "recently in ' 88, he said, \"My brother"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "Tony and I walked out,\" and his name's"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Michael. He said, \"My brother Tony and I"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "walked out to have a cigarette in the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "backyard.\" And he said, \"We looked up"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "and in the sky there was a\" He said, \"It"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "was a triangular uh craft, massive.\" He"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "said, \"Mate, it was bigger than the"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "three houses put together. You could not"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "see any stars.\" He said, \"When you"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "looked up, you just saw pitch black."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Couldn't see anything.\" And he said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "never ever forget it.\" And then about 2"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "3 weeks later, I ran into his brother"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "who just moved back home into their"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "family home. and I was driving uh past"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "and saw him out the front. Hadn't seen"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "him for a while, so I pulled up to say"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "hello. Anyway, he said to me, he goes,"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "\"Mate, Peter, that show the other day,\""}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "he said, \"I remember my brother Michael"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "and I were outside having a cigarette,"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "and we looked up and there was a giant"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "object hovering above your house, the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "neighbor's house and our house.\" Now,"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "nothing happened to them. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "experience any abduction or anything"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "like that, but they had a recall, a"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "conscious recall of it happening"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": ">> that night that you were"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": ">> that 1988. Yes. And I've never they"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "never said that to me before. I think"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "when they watched the show, it triggered"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": ">> It was November of 2023,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "I believe. Last year,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "I was driving home"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "and in the sky, I'm always driving. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "always looking up. It's what I do. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "looking. If I see something in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "I'm I'm I'm looking to see if it's"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "blinking. I'm sure a lot of you are like"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "that as well. I see a light, a very"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "bright light, far away, like a star, but"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "pretty bright. And I go, \"All right, let"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "me just keep an eye on it to see if it"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "starts blinking.\" And and if you're"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "looking at a plane from uh the front,"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "you sometimes can't see a blink, right?"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "If the blinks are on the tail or if"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "they're far enough away, maybe you won't"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "see it. So, I see this thing just"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "getting brighter. I'm like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "interesting.\" Okay. I take the on-ramp"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "to take the exit where I live and I turn"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "and now this thing is really bright"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "coming pretty close. I still got my eye"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "on it. I turn into this parking lot and"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "as I stop it is almost overhead. It is"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "coming towards me and now I'm realizing"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "there are three lights"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "and one green emerald light in the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "middle."}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "I park my car. I open the door"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "immediately. I drive an electric"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "vehicle. It doesn't make any noise. I"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "wanted to see anything that low. I don't"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "care what it was. Name the thing."}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Anything that low would make a noise."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Anything with an engine."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "I open the door. I'm looking at it now."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "It's flying almost overhead."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "I'm My brain's trying to make sense of"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "this. You have to understand this is"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "this is how your mind works. Your mind's"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "like like filing through the cabinet."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "What is this? Is this, you know, is this"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "match this or that? And that's what your"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "brain's doing. It's frantic."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "And my brain's starting to starting to"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "wonder, oh, is this a helicopter doing"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "some type of maneuver where it's like"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "I'm seeing the underbelly of the"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "helicopter,"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "but I'm like, no. Cuz I open the door"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "and there's no noise. None. No noise."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "That"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "freaked me out. I don't know how else to"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "describe it. It made the hairs on my"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "entire body stand up. Seeing it was like"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "seeing a ghost."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "Now I'm watching this thing,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "this triangle"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "fly over my head, standing up outside my"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "car,"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "and I go, \"My phone. I need to film"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "this.\" I scramble to get my phone. I'm"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "trying to film. I open my camera. It's"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "on photo mode. I'm still looking at it."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "I go to video mode. I hit record. And"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "the second I hit record,"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "two of the lights go out,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "folks. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "This is a terrible story, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "because now all I have is footage of"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "these two lights"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "moving across the sky, going behind a"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "building. Eventually, I followed it, by"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "the way, and it goes behind a mountain"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "and we don't see it again."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "How convenient that you film this thing"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "and two lights go out. Now, it's just"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "two lights. Well, first of all, let me"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "say this, okay?"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "I know what I saw."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "I don't have to"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "I don't have to prove that to anybody. I"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "have that. I know what I saw. It freaked"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "me out. Secondly,"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "the video that I have of these two"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "lights traveling, none of those lights"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "are flashing."}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Now, although in the video in the grain"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "it might look like they're sort of"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "blinking, that's just the pixels."}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "They're not flashing. You can tell. Look"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "close enough, they are not flashing."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "Every plane has to have a flashing light"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "on the tail or on the wings or"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "something. This is just two lights"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "traversing like this, which were three"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "and four in the middle. And now it's"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "just going like this. And so what part"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "of the plane is that? If you're"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "watching, let me know. Draw it out for"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "me. What part of the plane"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "do these two lights represent?"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "That's all I want to know. That's all"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "you can tell me that's definitely a"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "plane in the comments or oh no, that"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "must be a glider or a drone or a"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "helicopter. Whatever it is, just tell me"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "what two lights on the plane those"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "represent and why are none of them"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "blinking. That's all I want to know"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "because what I saw was definitely not a"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "plane."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> Hey Chris. Um my name is Chris too"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "actually. My name, my full name is"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "Christian. Um, the story I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "give you is nothing too incredibly"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "exciting, but it definitely is a UFO"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "sighting. It was in uh southern Arizona"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "in Maricopa County. Um, at the end of a"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "long road, if you pass the big casino on"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "your right and keep going to the end of"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "the road, there is a campground at the"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "end of that and a uh you can either turn"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "left or right, and the campground is"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "across that road. Okay, so picture this"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "is back in like 2019, I believe. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "was standing there. I was on contract."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "Um, I was a UXO, uh, unexloded"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "ordinance, uh, you know, disposal"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "technician, I suppose. Um, you can look"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "that up. It's hard to explain, but so I"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "was there and I was standing there alone"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "at like 4:30 in the morning waiting for"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "a van to come pick me up for work. And"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "this thing was no more than 500 ft above"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "my head, maybe less. It was absolutely"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "ginormous. And it was absolutely the"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "black triangle craft. No sound, no"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "propulsion. It had a light on each"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "corner and a light right in the middle."}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "Passed right over my head just kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "casually going to the northwest. Uh"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "nothing too exciting, but definitely the"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "black triangle UFO. It was absolutely"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "there. I was of sober mind. wasn't high."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "It definitely happened."}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm I'm only calling because like"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "I said, YouTube"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "uh these channels aren't uh going to"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "draw too much attention to me probably."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "A few years ago, I live here in a of the"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "uh Fosroy, Ohio, and me and a friend had"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "pulled up in front of my my house and I"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "live in a residential community and um"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "we were getting a drum kit out of the"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "car and I had the big bass drum and I"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "was walking up to the front of like the"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "sidewalk going up to the front of my"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "house and it was all the stars around."}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "It was a beautiful night. So, as I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "like walking with this awkward bass kick"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "drum, I look up and right when I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "looking up going right over my house,"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "the timing was crazy, too, was this"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "black triangle. And"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "it was about as big as my house from it"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "was about a little bit the wing tips on"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "both sides would be bigger than the"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "white the width of my my house."}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "I had a sighting about well several"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "sightings about 10 years ago."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "Um I was standing outside my balcony."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "However, I do remember"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "um just thinking to myself ever so"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "quietly that I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "um see a UFO. Sorry, I don't know how to"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "start this. But anyway, um I lived in"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "Los Angeles in Sherman Elves,"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "California."}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "And I believe it was about 2012"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "to 2013."}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "I saw three black um triangles. And it"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "was it literally came after I had a"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "thought saying I wanted to learn about"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "you. I wanted to see a UFO for myself."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "And I never seen anything move like"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "that. I was standing outside of my"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "balcony in at my apartment in Sherman"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Oaks and saw two just move and stand"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "maybe about 500 yards in front of me and"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "just hovering just slightly above my"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "balcony. And then maybe about 10 minutes"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "later, a black helicopter came swooping"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "um in and stood far to the right"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "adjacent of it about maybe 300 to 500"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "yards. And it just hovered above my"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "apartment for about a good 20 25 minutes"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "or so. And then they proceeded to leave"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "in order as they came. And"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:54", "text": ">> but the black triangular craft saw it"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "one time and it freaked me out cuz I"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "actually saw it. We were maybe 12 people"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "and we're there there was like little"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "snacks out. We had our little drinks."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "No, there was probably like uh I guess"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "12 people and it got late. It started"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "getting past 10:30 and since people"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "lived in some of the people lived in"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Montreal, some people started saying,"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "\"Hey guys, you know, good night.\" And so"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "we I think from we went from 12 to 9"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "people and uh we're all there. It it was"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "a nice evening in September. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "that cold and it was a clear sky. I"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "mean, there was not one cloud in the"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "sky. And at a certain point, it got to"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "11 something at night. And one of the"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "girls that was there goes, \"Hey guys,"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "it's almost 11:11.\""}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "That's what she yelled. And so we're"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "like, \"Oh, that's cool.\" And I'll never"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "forget it. I look up and we were all"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "kind of uh we all for some reason looked"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "up"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "and uh there was you know when you see"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "something coming in from the horizon"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "this was not from the horizon. This was"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "in straight field of view like I had a"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "clear right in the center of the sky and"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "I'm looking right at nothing. I'm"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "looking at a black sky with obviously a"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "few stars and and something came in. It"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "almost looked like it came into the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "atmosphere cuz it it made a roaring"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "sound like you know when you see the"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "space shuttle coming in and it starts to"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "the the the heat from the atmosphere. It"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "kind of looked like that but it was not"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "as long. It was just like a it just came"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "in. So I'm like we all went like what it"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "it ju and it was a black it was"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "perfectly triangular and it just quietly"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "because it made the sound it was like an"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "initial orange light that went around it"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "and then it just went"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "dark and it just flew right over the"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "house and we all we all kind of we all"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "look like I know this it you know"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "everybody's like why didn't you film"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "that? It happened so fast that we were"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "just like, \"Oh my god, like that's"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "happening and that's it. It's gone.\" You"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "don't A lot of people get frustrated"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "when people say, \"Oh, well, why didn't"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "they take a video of it or why didn't"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "you take a picture of it?\" It's just"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "that fast. You don't know that's about"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "to happen. That happened to me when, you"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "know, I had my sighting here. Um, where"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "I saw this triangular craft clearly over"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "my head, like I thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "helicopter at first, like sort of"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "rearing its belly. I couldn't make sense"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "of what I was seeing."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> And it didn't make a sound."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": ">> So, I was very confused and then I was"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "like, \"Oh, my phone.\" But that first"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": ">> 10, 15 seconds, I was"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": ">> actively trying to figure out whether or"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "not it was a craft that I knew, you"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "know, before I even reached for my"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "phone. got it and then it it turned to"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "its side and sort of I got a different"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "view from it. But I I know that feeling"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "as well."}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": ">> Well, it's funny that it just made me"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "think about something that guy Chris in"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "Ontario I remember I said did you take a"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "picture when it was like he goes I'll"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "never forget he goes Luigi he goes if"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "that if the thought of taking a picture"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "would have came to me he goes I would"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "have got the best picture in the history"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "of the world of something like that. He"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "goes, \"There was not a second that my"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "brain was not trying to figure out what"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "am I looking at.\""}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": ">> Hey, I was about 8 years old and I was"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "alone at home on the farm. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "else had gone. I was riding my bike on"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "the clay driveway and I look up and"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "there's like a triangle like it looked"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "like a sticker, like a black sticker"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "that was just stuck in the sky. It was"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "huge."}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "And I look down and I'm actually"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "floating off the ground and my toes are"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "pointed towards the ground. My arms are"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "level like my body, but they weren't out"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "sticking. And it just kept looking at"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "this triangle and then it just rotated"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "and slowly moved off the top of the pine"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "trees. And then I looked down and I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "still standing on the ground again."}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "So, I don't know what it was, but ever"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "since then, there's been like"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "occurrences that happen where I will see"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "things of different shapes, sizes."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> Was the last uh last year uh it was late"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "at night. It was me and my fiance just"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "kind of just hanging out back and"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "hanging in the kitchen, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "drinking some wine. It was Saturday"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "night. It's probably about 1:00."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "my fiance, you know, we had the back"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "door open and just going again going in"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "and out and my fiance comes out and"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "she's like halfway out the back door and"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "she's like, \"Babe, is that plane?\" And I"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "come out and immediately I see this"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "light and I say, \"Yeah, it's plane.\" And"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "immediately I said, \"No, it's not a"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "plane.\" It was so low. It was literally"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "a light just almost appeared out of the"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "darkness. And as it came closer, it was"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "literally a triangle with three lights"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "underneath it."}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> It was a UFO that was off Catalina"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Island, which I said, and so he has a"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "photo, a video of it where it's a"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "triangle and you can see it. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "he's on a boat. So he's himself and then"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "his partner uh is on the island and so"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "they see this UFO so they cross"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "triangulate it and then the Coast Guard"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "sees it as well. So you're getting three"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "different points of view which we all"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "want and need right. So then at three"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "different areas saying what the hell is"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "over top of your boat? And so he watched"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "it I believe come from out of the water"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "and then it was above him but when he"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "got it on video it was above him."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> Is this daytime or night time?"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> Night time."}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:03", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And so when he's telling this,"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "first of all, when I read the data"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "before I go on, I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:07", "text": ">> cool."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> Like this is, you know, and then I look"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "at like the rundown of like, okay, let's"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "look at the back end, right? Let's see"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "if they were doing any type of uh"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "explosions. Were they doing any type of"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "flare activity? Because it's obviously"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "the Coast Guards are there, right? And"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "there's tons of military activity,"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:23", "text": ">> um,"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": ">> exercises,"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": ">> right, off Catalina Island. So we look"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "and only thing that day in those couple"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "days were low barge explosions. And so"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "everything was like in the ground or in"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "the water. They weren't above. And so we"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "knew that it couldn't be that."}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": ">> Yeah. So um this happened when I was"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "like 12 years old. I was staying at my"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "grandmother's house with my father and"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "my family. And we were driving home from"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "some family gathering. It might have"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "been 10 11:00 at night. And as we were"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "approaching my grandmother's house, you"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "know, it was sort of like a relatively"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "hilly kind of area and you could see her"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "house, you know, far off in the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "distance, a good half mile away, a"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "little bit down the hill. And from the"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "backseat of the car, I could see the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "house, but in the sky behind it, I could"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "see this perfect clear shape of like a"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "triangle spacecraft with a glowing"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "lights at each end and one in the"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "center. And I remember thinking to"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "myself like, that's a UFO."}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "I'm from Halifax, Nova Scotia. On"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "January 11th, 2020, I was at an"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "electronic music festival in Costa Rica"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "named Elcaso. It was held at Laenda,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "which is an amphitheater in the jungle."}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "While heading back from the bar, I"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "noticed about 40 or 50 people pointing"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "towards the sky. When I observed the"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "sky, I could clearly see multiple black"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "triangle-shaped aircraft with lights on"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "each corner and one in the center, all"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "amber colored. As I stood there"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "observing them, I could see they were"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "all flying in the exact same direction,"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "the same speed with like they were in"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "tandem. Sometimes there would be one"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "lagging behind and it sort of zipped to"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "catch up. You'd see groups of three to"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "10 craft at a time and they all just"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "seemed to be moving like they were had"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "the same hive's mind or something. They"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "also seemed to be quite large cuz they"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "didn't appear like a dot in the sky like"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "a plane does but unusually large after I"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "thought about it. They appeared to be"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "two or three stories high also and there"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "had to be at least 50 to 70 of them as I"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "thought about it afterwards. I swear to"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "you it is absolutely true what I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "saying. There was a minimum of 50, but"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "more likely 70 black triangles, all"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "identical, all flying from south to"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "north, basically from Panama towards"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "Mexico."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "Any more information you need, please"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "let me know and I'd be happy to provide"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "it. It is absolutely true and there is"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "multiple other witnesses, at least 50 to"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "100 other people that seen the same"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "thing as I did. Hi, my name is Tom. Um"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "me and my sister were camping one time"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "in the mountains and uh we were this"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "area was full of is a deep canyon area"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "and we were just sitting down watching"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "the lake and the river and uh we looked"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "up and we noticed a bright orb of some"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "kind. We thought it was a helicopter at"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "first, but as soon as we looked at it"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "and decided to go back on the other side"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "of the canyon wall,"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "and disappeared. And then about 3 hours"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "later, just before dark, uh, TR3B,"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "similar to a TR3PB"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "triangle craft was up the atmosphere"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "and it had like three circles underneath"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "the bottom of it that filled in the"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "whole entire bottom of the craft and it"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "just floated there for a bit and then"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "took off. The next day I was in the"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "bathroom at the campground sitting there"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "and uh heard another noise that exactly"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "sounded similar to the one from the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "previous day. And I got done with my"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "business, walked out the door and the"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "same exact craft was inside the canyon."}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "I'd say at least maybe 200 feet above"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "our campsite. You can actually throw a"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "rock and probably hit it. It just"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "hovered there. It took up the it"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "basically covered up the entire river"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "which the river is about maybe thousand"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "yards wide. Um and then it just floated"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "on up and took off and disappeared."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "Nothing ever happened after that."}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "Recently I came across"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "um somebody who watches these videos. He"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "reached out to me on Instagram. His name"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "is Justin. And"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "he he captured something incredible."}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "He captured a triangular what appears to"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "be a triangular craft being escorted by"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "one of these orbs. Now, is it three orbs"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "being escorted by another orb or a"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "triangular craft? I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "dark."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "But uh we're going to hear from Justin"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "here. And I thought this was really"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "interesting because this is also a lot"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "like what I saw. I also asked Justin to"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "describe into detail what happened that"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "night, what it was he saw. And here is"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "Justin now. So, this is the full clip. I"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "did bump the exposure to get a better"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "look at it. And after this clip rolls,"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "I'm going to actually show you where"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "this experience happened and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "to walk you through it a little bit"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "better. And at the end, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "slow it down and zoom it in for you to"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "get a good look at it. So, this is my"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "backyard. This is actually where I was"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "at when the formation appeared above me."}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "I was chilling in my chair just looking"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "out at the sky, which this direction is"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "southeast. So, I was looking up in this"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "area and I heard the strangest noise"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "that came from this direction and the"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "triangle formation phased in right above"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "my house right about there where that"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "bird is right now."}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "and then it flew over the front of my"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "house"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "over that direction."}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "So, the whole experience only lasted"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "maybe 20 seconds. I filmed 18 seconds of"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "it, but I'm going to try to describe the"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "sound that I heard. It was like a joy"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "kind of like weird like if you take a"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "doors stop, the spring ones, and fling"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "it and then add like electricity to it."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "That's kind of what it sounded like. And"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "it was just so wild. And in that video,"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "there's the three in the formation."}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "There's actually a fourth one that's to"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "the side of it. And it's completely"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "locked in with the three. It's moving"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "with them. And I wish I could have seen"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "how it disappeared, but it was just"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "moving so fast that it flew across the"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "sky and I was unable to see it anymore."}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "So, here's the clip slowed down to 3/10"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "speed. I zoomed it in so you can get a"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "good look so you can see the three in"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "the triangle and the fourth one. It's so"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "crazy how they're just moving in lock"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "step."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "And I will apologize for the shakiness"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "right here. It did happen very rapidly."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "And luckily, I had my finger on my"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "record button on my binoculars ready to"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "go or I would have missed this entire"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "experience. That's how quickly it"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "happened. So, this is about to be the"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "end of this little clip, and I'd love to"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "hear your thoughts on it."}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> Incredible sighting."}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "The fact that it made a noise when it"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "phased in is also really interesting. I"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "mean, you look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "Does that look like a plane to you? And"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "why would it be escorted?"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": ">> Hey, I'm watching your alien being final"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "warning. humanity lerta files part 4 and"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "in there you talk about uh the ships not"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "being triangle I disagree I have been"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "implanted since an infant up in New York"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "and they have followed me down to South"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "Carolina my neighbor without knowing"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "told me there was a triangular ship over"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "my house and it was the same time when I"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "woke up there were markings on my legs"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "always leaving triangular three"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "triangular bruises is um like they have"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "three fingers. So they they"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "bruise in a triangle shape, three dots."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Um every time I wake up, I live alone."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "Nobody's in my house. Nobody else has"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "keys. And I wake up and I find incision"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "cuts and always three triangle dots."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "One guy was so stunned by this huge"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "triangular shaped craft that he was"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "witnessing that he leapt into his car"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "and started trying to chase it. Driving"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "along the road, keeping it in view with"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "his family in the back screaming at him"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "to stop because they saw it too and and"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "were scared whereas he was excited. And"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "in this same encounter, there was a a"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "farmer who saw this this craft very low"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "and he thought it's so low he thought it"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "maybe it landed in one of his fields and"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "he went up to the field and I think I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "I'm trying all the cows in the field"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "were standing in a circle like facing"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "each other completely silent. There was"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "no UFO there, but they were all just"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "doing that like"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "straight out of the X Files. And and so"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "you have things like that and you're"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "thinking, well, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": ">> Yeah, that is terrifying. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "don't I don't think there are very many"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "uh unsettling things cows could do uh"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "other than standing in a circle like"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "some type of weird some type of weird"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "ritual,"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:24", "text": ">> you know? That that reminds me actually"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "of like the Belgian UFO wave a little"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "bit."}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "Mass sightings of a triangular craft"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "with lights on each end were first"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "reported in Belgium from 1989 to 1990."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "People reported over 2600 sightings in"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "only 6 months time. This was known as"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "the Belgian UFO wave. One of the most"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "notable incidents during this period"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "occurred on the night of March 30th,"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "1990. It began with a member of the"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "French armed forces, Mr. Ranken"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "reporting seeing three unusual lights"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "attached to the underside of a"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "triangular object. His observation was"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "later confirmed by a patrol unit and"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "detected on radar systems. Chief of"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "operations of the air staff General"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "Wilfred De Bruer then deployed multiple"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "F-16s to intercept the object."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:22", "text": ">> 30 and 34th March. Um, we had an"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "observation on the uh radar and in"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "addition a visual observation on the"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "ground confirmed by the police."}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:34", "text": ">> Although this is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "reported UFO sightings in history, the"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "media still chocked it up to, in their"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "words, mass hysteria."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "But De Bruer still believes otherwise."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "He's quoted, \"I can conclude with"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "confidence that the observations during"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "what is now known as the Belgian wave"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "were not caused by mass hysteria. The"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "witnesses interviewed by investigators"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "were sincere and honest. They did not"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "previously know each other."}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "Many were surprised by what they saw"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "today. They are still prepared to"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "confirm their unusual experience.\""}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "Then there's the Southern Illinois"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "incident in 2000. Over several towns,"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "multiple police officers from different"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "departments independently reported a"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "huge slowmoving triangular craft. And"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "who can ignore the Phoenix lights of"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "1997"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "where thousands witnessed the colossal"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "V-shaped craft, a sentinel in the sky?"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "Well, very interesting you should say"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "that because there was talking of the X"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "Files and spooky coincidences."}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "This this wave of sightings, the Cosford"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "incident, took place late on the night"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "of March 30th and in the early hours of"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "March 31st, 1993."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "And of course, as I was investigating"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "this, something was was kind of gnoring"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "at the back of my mind, and I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "quite put my finger on it until"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "afterwards, I realized, wait, this is 3"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "years to the very night to the very"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "night after those those Belgium"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "sightings. And there were absolutely"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "similarities in the shape of the the"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "craft. Sometimes the behavior this"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "ability apparent ability of it to move"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "from a very low speed to high max speeds"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "in an instant with no sonic boom. Lou"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "Alzando would would call this the you"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "know one of the five observables. And we"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "didn't have that terminology at the"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "time, but we knew what it was because it"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "it cropped up in cases like this. And I"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "remember one of the Air Force witnesses"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "telling me that this thing moved very"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "slowly, maybe 35, 40 m an hour, uh, with"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "a low frequency humming sound that he"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "said was deeply unpleasant. You could"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "feel it as well as hear it rather like"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "getting too close to a like a"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": ">> a generator or something."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": ">> A generator. a bass speaker at a rock"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "concert, something like that, where you"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "feel the sound going through your body."}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "He said it was like that. And and this"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "is an Air Force guy telling me this like"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "just a few hours after he saw it. And he"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "said from that very slow speed, suddenly"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "it just went away to the horizon like in"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "in an instant. And he said, \"Nick,\" and"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "this was maybe, I don't know, just five,"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "six hours afterwards, we were on the"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "phone, his voice was still shaking. And"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "he said, \"Nick, I've been in the Air"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "Force 8 years. I see obviously fast"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "attack helicopters, milked jets, like"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "it's my job. I've never seen anything"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "like this before in my life.\""}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": ">> Hey, what's up? Uh, my name is Max. I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "from London. And uh this one night, I"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "think I was like 14, 15 years old, um I"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "was in the car on the highway with my"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "dad and my sister and we just visited my"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "auntie in the hospital. We were having"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "some kind of argument in a car. I don't"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "remember what it was exactly, but there"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "were tears and tensions were high and we"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "were the only car on the road. And uh as"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "we were driving under street lights, I"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "saw above us as we were approaching um"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "this triangular craft um one big light"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "in the middle and one light on each"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "point of the triangle. Um and we just"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "slowly passed under it. It was, you"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "know, it's like if I was standing on the"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "road and I had a golf ball or a tennis"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "ball, if I threw it, I think I could"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "have hit it. It was like that low. And"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "we just drove right underneath it."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "Everybody in the car shut up. Uh, we all"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "saw it. I said to my dad, \"Did you see"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "that?\" And he just never responded."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:54", "text": ">> Hi, my name is Nathan. I'm from North"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "Carolina, the East Coast. And about 22"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "23 years ago, we were driving from our"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "tiny little town, Whiteville,"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "to a slightly larger city, Wilmington,"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "North Carolina. And I was in the back"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "seat. I was probably 14 or 15 at the"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "time. My brother and I looking out the"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "right side of the car saw these three"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "triangular"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "ships, planes, aircraft of some sort"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "that were floating perfectly still. They"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "were probably 30 or 40 feet higher than"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "the water tower. So they might have been"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "100t in the air, 110 ft in the air,"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "something like that."}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "And they were in like a perfect"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "triangular pattern, the three of them."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "They had a light under each corner and a"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "slightly bigger light under the c in the"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "center. We thought, \"This is crazy.\""}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "Neither one of us said anything when we"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "first saw them. And then we passed them"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "and we got out of sight of them and I"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "was like, \"Did you see that?\" My brother"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "was like, \"Oh my gosh, yeah. Did you see"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "that?\" We talked and kind of confirmed"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "what we saw. The three triangles with"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "the lights on the bottom. They looked"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "like dark dark dark craft with just"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "these lights. They weren't very bright"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "lights either. They weren't like shining"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "on the ground below them or anything."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "Um, and they were over this opening,"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "this little field that was out there."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "Got back and we knew a guy through the"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "church that we were a part of that"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "worked for or probably still works for"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "as far as I know, a company called Pratt"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "Whitney, which does uh defense"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "contracting. and he designed um aircraft"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "controls or government aircraft, I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "guessing military aircraft and things"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "like that. Um and wasn't allowed to talk"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "about his work very much obviously"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "because of the nature of his job. And a"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "few days later, we thought to ask him"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "about this thing we saw. So we were"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "like, well, what was it? Cuz it was"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "silent. It looked like these three"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "triangles with these lights and this"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "pattern. And then he changed his look to"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "be a little more inquisitive. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "look like threatened or scared or"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "anything. He just looked and he just"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "said, \"Uh, I'm sorry, I can't talk about"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "that.\" And we were like, \"What?\" And"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "then we asked a couple more detailed"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "questions. We're like, \"Is the"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "government testing planes or is is there"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "anything that your company is doing with"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "this?\" He's just like, \"I couldn't I"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "can't talk about that.\" That's all he"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "would say for the next two or three"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "minutes until we finally decided like,"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "\"We're not getting anything out of him.\""}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "And then we just let it go. Years and"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "years later, my brother Daniel and I"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "find out that these sightings are really"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "common. That there's this ship that has"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "been labeled the Dorito or the Triangle."}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "This aircraft that has been cited"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "hundreds if not thousands of times"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "across the world. Um sometimes as an"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "individual aircraft, sometimes in these"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "small flight patterns and we've only"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "recently in the last five or six years"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "really confirmed that we are not crazy."}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "And you know, 20 some years ago, we"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "really saw what we thought we saw. So,"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "thanks for letting me share my story."}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "Uh, y'all keep crushing it. I love what"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "you're doing, man. Take care."}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:07", "text": ">> I have a buddy who was in Army Public"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "Affairs. This was about 2015 time. He"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "was up at Groom Lake, Area 51. He was"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "with some colonels near the Chow Hall."}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "And every time there's a classified"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "airframe flight, they clear the flight"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "line, close the windows, nobody's"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "allowed to look cuz he's with these"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "colonels. They're allowed to observe the"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "flight line. We talked about this last"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "night, but on the the flight line, he"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "sees a huge black triangle and it just"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "takes off at incredible speeds"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "vertically. Doesn't disturb any of the"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "dust around it. So, that might be the"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "times where, hey, the legacy program"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "gets to use some of the, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "air strips, gets to test some airframes."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> That's that was at Area 51."}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": ">> Yeah, Grim Lake."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:46", "text": ">> Hey guys, um this 4th of July, I was"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "heading to the gym. It would actually"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "technically be the 5th because it was"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "like 12:03 a.m. in the morning. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "driving down a road which has some trees"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "in a neighborhood. And I look up and I"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "see three lights"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "completely"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "flat at the same level, meaning they're"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "the same size. And I don't really"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "immediately register how large it is. So"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "I just make my turn like normal. And"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "then my brain catches up and it's clear"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "that this is a large thing. So I"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "immediately turn and try to find where"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "the lights were and they were right"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "above the tree line as I was turning. So"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "I kind of knew where they were. I moved"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "down the street and I see it from what"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "appears to be an out attitude up angle"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "and I could see the three lights were"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "part of a large triangle and in the"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "center of the triangle there were"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "shifting colored lights."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": ">> Hey, this is Gab from Canada."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "about 2016"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "on the north Canadian shore of Lake"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "Erie, I saw a big black triangle flying"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "over the lake and it looked like it had"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "three lights on it. Me and my girlfriend"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "just stood there and watched it while it"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "sort of came near to us and"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "we didn't know what it was. We we walked"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "away and we felt kind of odd the rest of"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "that night. And uh I've been hearing a"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "lot of stories about these black"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "triangles now, so I thought I'd report"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "Thank you to everybody who supported"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "this channel in 2025 and beyond. I'm"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "eternally thankful and grateful for all"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "of your support. You've been the most"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "welcoming and supportive audience by far"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "on the internet in this topic. And I"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "appreciate I appreciate everybody who's"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "become a member throughout the year to"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "check out our behind-the-scenes videos"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "and all the people who've just even"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "become a part of the Discord family who"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "we chat with almost every day. It's been"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "a really special journey and pardon the"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "cliche, but we're only getting started."}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "Um, we've got a lot of plans for 2026"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "and obviously as we've heard so many"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "times, the aliens have a lot of plans"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "for 2027. So, we got to get a move on."}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "We'll see you in 2026. This is a prop,"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "by the way. This is not a real"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "cigarette, so don't uh don't don't"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "worry. All right. Just a prop. Okay."}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "All right. All right."}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "That's a wrap. 2026, baby. 2025. That's"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "a wrap."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Today I'm talking with James Fox. He"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "spent three decades investigating UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "cases, and he's produced seven"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "documentaries, including The Phenomenon,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "which hit number three in all genres"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "when it dropped. And back in 2007, he"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "organized what's still considered the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "most credible civilian UFO disclosure"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "event in history. 14 military and"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "government officials from seven"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "countries, all at the National Press"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Club in Washington. But here's what"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "makes James different. He doesn't chase"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "headlines. He knocks on doors. He tracks"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "down military records. He befriends"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "witnesses for years before they'll even"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "sit down with him. His latest"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "investigation, the Virginia incident in"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Brazil, took him there four times in the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "last year. And what he found is"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "significant. He found a neurosurgeon who"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "claims he had face-to-face contact with"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "a captured non-human being. We learn"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "about a military officer who died weeks"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "after handling one of the creatures. And"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "for the first time, all the locations"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "that James talks about line up on Google"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Maps. We're going to get into all of it."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Let's go downstairs."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Today we're talking to James Fox. This"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "is exciting. One of the most prolific"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "documentary filmmakers working in the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "UFO space. I don't call it UAPs. Uh he"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "got a start early assisting his father,"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "writer and photographer Charles Fox,"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "conducting interviews for Rolling Stone,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Sports Illustrated, and Car and Driver."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "that foundation in rigorous journalism"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "shows in his work. James has spent three"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "decades,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "three decades, uh, investigating UFO"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "cases, producing seven documentaries,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "including Out of the Blue, I know what I"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "saw, the phenomenon, which is my"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "favorite, the program, and in 2007, he"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "organized what's still considered the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "most credible civilian UFO disclosure"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "event in history, bringing 14 military"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and government officials from seven"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "countries to the National Press Club in"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Washington. His latest film, Moment of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Contact: New Revelations, which is a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "follow-up of Moment of Contact 1,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "expands on his nearly 30-year"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "investigation into the Vargia incident"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "in Brazil, a case involving nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "beings, military capture, and one"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "mysterious death. So, remember, we're"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "not here to convince or persuade"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "anybody. We just want to hear the story."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "James, this is not a professional"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "operation. Um, but I am very excited to"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "talk to you. Thanks for coming in."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> Oh, that was a that was a great intro. I"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "got to meet this guy."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> You got to meet him. His name is I think"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "his name is Chad GPT."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> So, how do you first, how do you go from"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "working with your dad and interviewing"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Stephen Hawking to becoming like the"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "pre-minent UFO documentarian?"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> So, funny. I I've talked about this in"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "the past because my father used to"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "always say to me, he was he was a"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "quadroplegic with MS. And so I very"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "early on I was I was kind of his legs"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "his secretary his physical therapist"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "his you know his his chauffeur"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "and he had to you know continue working"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "cuz that's what he did and he had to"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "travel cuz that's what he did and so I"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "was his leg. So I got very early on I"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "was driving like 11 years old but I got"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "to go and meet some of the subjects and"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "he had a wide range of stuff that he"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "would do and oftentimes he would want to"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "like meet somebody. So he'd make up a a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "story idea, propose it to various, you"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "know, news organizations and get"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "approval and we could travel on, you"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "know, expense, you know, expense paid"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "travel, whatever. And um but he always"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "say to me, son, you know, whatever you"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "want to do in life, I support it fully."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "I don't care if you want to be a janitor"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "or a lawyer, you know, that's that's"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "what matters, that you're happy. And"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "then when he found out that I was going"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "to looking into UFOs, I was in my"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "mid20s. He he was he was so he was so"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "concerned about my future. And he was"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "like, \"There's nothing to it. There's"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "it's a dead end street. Don't waste your"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "life.\" He was pleading with me not to do"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "it. Like not only that, but he had"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "members cuz I was born in England. A lot"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "of my family lives in England and then"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "they married Frenchmen and Italian"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "people, whatever. They're scattered"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "across Europe. And he had them writing"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "writing me letters. Your father's very"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "concerned. Maybe you should reconsider"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the path that you're taking in life."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Like, you know, really, Dad, like just"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "because I said, I'm kind of curious in"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "this and I'm looking into it and you"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "know, and I thought, well, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "I'm going to show him. And so, I was"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "like, I'm making a documentary on, you"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "know, UFOs. People are like, you out of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "your damn mind on what, you know, and uh"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "and I did. It took me four years. It was"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "100 million times harder than I ever"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "anticipated. I was like, Jesus, editing"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "is insane. like, you know, B-roll. I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "need B-roll. What was B-roll? Like,"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> is this the one you sold to Discovery"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "when you were 28?"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> Yeah, it was called UFOs. Uh, 50 Years"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "of Denial. Sorry, it's been so long"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "since since I did that one."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> I guess it's been 100 years of denial"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "since"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. I know. It's Now it's up"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "to like 500 years of denial."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Yeah, I did that and I got to the end of"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "it and I was like, but that was really"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "hard. Like really hard."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> My god. And I had no money and I was,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "you know, I had met this guy that I'd"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "done some PSA work, public service"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "announcements with another company that"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "I had apprenticed with to learn kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "video production and stuff like that."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "And he was like, ah, you're doing this"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "documentary. He goes, um, you know, go"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "out and and you know, do do this, this,"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "this, and this. And he gave me this"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "whole list, laundry list of stuff I had"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "to do. And he goes, 99.9% of the time"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "when I told people to go do that, I'd"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "never see them again. And I was happy"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "about that. But he goes, \"Son of a"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": " you came back a year later and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "you did everything I told you to do.\" He"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "goes, \"So I felt obligated to help you.\""}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "So he was sneaking me, Boris Zubof, he"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "was sneaking me into this production"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "facility that was like $100, hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "dollars an hour, right? It was I mean"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "back then and um we'd come in on Friday"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "like yeah we're just going to do a"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "couple of hours and then we'd stay up"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "all Friday night all Saturday all Sunday"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "just coffee and just like you know"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "because cuz you know and then we had to"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "leave before you know it opened back up"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "on Monday morning and Boris bless your"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "heart Boris like he really helped me"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "make that that film happen when I was"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "doing I had a noner editing a nonlinear"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "editing system called a toaster flyer if"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "you remember I'm sure on the amigga."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> Exactly. And uh I remember when I was"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "setting that up, the the guy goes at the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "store, he goes, \"Uh, Winter Circle in"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Berkeley. It's probably not even around"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "anymore.\" He's like, \"Well, I tell you"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "what, James, I've got um I've got these"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "two 4 gig drives or you can pull out all"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "the stops and get the 9 gig drives.\""}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Nine gigs."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "How much is 9 gigs? will never fill it."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> it was $2,400 a piece for for one 9 gig"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "drive and I got two and he let me pay in"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "installments. So I was editing the movie"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "in like 15minute segments and then I'd"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "bring them into to this post-production"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "house and we we we splice the film"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "together with Digi Beta and all that,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "you know. Anyway, so that was my first"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "film and then I finished that."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Well, hang on. Did your dad get to see"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Oh, sorry. Yes. Going back to that, very"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "good point. Uh he did and he was he was"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "like pretty damn impressed. But I'll"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "tell you what got him I'll tell you what"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "got him. He was very impressed. My whole"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "family was I mean I sold it to Discovery"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "my first documentary. It took me about"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "four years and I sold Discovery and I I"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "tell you man I felt like I clammed to M"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Everest. I mean it was it was really"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "taxing and really difficult. Way more"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "work than I ever anticipated making a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "documentary. You know I was like poke"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the camera and uh you sold it. I sold"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "it. I know. It was incredible. Right."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "I had put out requests for interviews"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "during the time of production with that"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "doc that they never got back to me. And"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "post Doc and the release, I got"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "accepted. I got invited to go to Russia"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "and I got invited to meet with Mercury"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "astronaut Gordon Cooper. Well, Gordon"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Cooper was an iconic figure of my dad's"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "generation."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> He was an amazing man."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. last American astronaut to"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "orbit the planet alone in little tin can"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and and um I thought well you know"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "normally I would travel with my father"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "on assignment and this time I said dad"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "how would you like to come with me and"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "meet Gordon Cooper"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "so he came with we got his wheelchair"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "van loaded it up me and a couple people"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "got my camera gear my I did all my own"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "audio and camera then and um and we did"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "this interview and my dad was looking in"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the eyes of Gordon Cooper and he was"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "like son of a what Why would this"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "guy lie? Had a landing at Edwards Air"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Force Base that was filmed. He talked"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "about processing the film footage. He'd"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "seen the film footage. Of course, as"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "with all film footage, two men in suits"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "showed up in a courier jet from"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Washington DC and was never to be seen"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "or heard from ever again. And then on"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "top of that, he had these sightings of"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "these discs in the ' 50s over Germany in"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "the in these planes. And my dad just"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "walked away from that going, \"This guy's"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "not selling his story. He's not selling"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "a book. He's iconic figure of my"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "generation. He's a hero. He's not crazy."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Why on earth? What would motivate him to"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "lie? And that was a turning point for my"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "father. He that really got him going,"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": " maybe my son's right. Maybe there"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "is something going on here. When he"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "died, he was one of my biggest fans."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> That's amazing."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": ">> Oh, that's what justification for that."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. Unfortunately, he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "around to to see the phenomenon because"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "I worked on that for eight years. I"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "started the phenomenon right right when"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "he died and then it took me 8 years."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "Maybe it took me longer than 8 years cuz"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "I started it concept at 43, filming at"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "44, finished and promoting at 52."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> Woo."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> that's a long time. And it's really"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "funny."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> I had some editors come in with me cuz I"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "edited for three or four years of that"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "movie. It was a lot of work. Cases all"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "around the world, whatever. And uh and"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "this one editor, Ben Gallon, he goes he"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "goes, \"Oh, dude, who's that who's that"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "who's that guy? Who's that guy over"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "there on your you know, the film"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "footage?\" I was like, \"No, that's me.\""}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "He goes, \"Really?\" I was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "that's when I first started.\" Like 9"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "years ago, whatever, you know, all brown"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "hair, you know, you know, no wrinkle,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "you know, whatever. But, you know what I"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "mean? It was really funny. I was like,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "\"Yeah, that took the wind out of my"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "sales on that one,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> you know.\" But, um, yeah. So, uh, so"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that's that's kind of how I got started."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "And I never anticipated like that I was"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "going to be the UFO guy making UFO docs,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> Well, what was the click that made you"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "suddenly get interested in that?"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> Well, so I had a friend of mine, this"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "guy Renee Harris, from high school, and"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "when we graduated from high school, I"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "was like, \"Hey, let's fly to Europe and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "let's drive across. Let's get a car in"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "London and drive to Portugal.\" So, we"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "bought this like we flew to London"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "together. He had way more money than I"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "did at the time."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> Best friends to have."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. He Yeah. and he he uh we"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "bought a Fiat 131 and we drove we"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "painted the doors red. We thought let's"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "spice this car up. It was white so we"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "like painted it red on the hood and the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "whatever. And then we drove it to"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Portugal"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "and uh ended up having to ditch it in"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Portugal and came back. But we went"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "across Europe together, really really"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "good friends. And then he was like, you"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "know, I'm just hungry all the time in"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "Europe. He's this big guy and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "you know, the the food portions are so"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "small in Europe. I need I need more"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "food. I guess he's like and everything's"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "so expensive and he wanted to go home."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "So he went home a little early. I stayed"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "on for oh man I ended up becoming an"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Opair. I went to London sold clo"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "clothing door to door sleeve clothing"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "store. The clothing store that comes to"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "you, you know, had the door slammed in"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "my face and then I worked as an Opair in"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "the French Alps. Um not speaking any"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "French. And uh and then I when I came"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "back to the states quite a bit later,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "you know, we re kind of fell out and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "then we reunited in our early 20s and he"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "was into UFOs and I was like, \"What a"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "shame."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> This guy's nuts."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> This guy's lost his mind. He's one of my"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "best friends and I'm going to have to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "cut him loose.\" And I he was talking"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "about Roswell and this UF I just I mean"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "I was like, \"Oh my god, this is tragic.\""}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "So then I um I brought it up with one of"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "my uh people that I was working with at"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "this um I was I was apprenticing at this"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "production facility in San Francisco and"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "this this guy Richard Vanickle and I"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "looked up to him. He was he was very he"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "was 10 years my senior and very"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "experienced in production. He was a"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "great guy, very smart. I said, \"Guy,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "you're not going to believe no my friend"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "and Roswell.\" And he goes, \"Oh, James,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "yeah, you didn't hear about Roswell.\""}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "I'm like, well, yeah, I heard about it,"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "but I mean, what do you No, I heard"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "about it. And then he started getting"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "like, oh, yeah, the military actually"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "announced the recovery of a flying"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "saucer and UFOs, and he was very"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "wellversed and everything. And I had a"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "lot of respect for him. So, I thought,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "well, I'll look into it. And the more I"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "dug, the more I realized, oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "there's something going on."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> And there was the inspiration for the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "first doc came from that."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, excuse me. Not that"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "not that exact meeting, but I decided,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "okay, I'm going to look into it. Just"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "like Varia, I reluctantly looked into"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "that case."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> I mean, I I heard about that case in the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "'90s. I heard about Rua through Steven"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Spielberg when I was making my first"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "documentary on UFOs in the '90s."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> We had a mutual friend, Janet Yang."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Sorry. Um, had a head cold a couple days"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "ago, but um Janet Yang"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "uh was friends with Spielberg and I was"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "making a UFO. doc and I thought, well,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "of course he's gonna grant me an"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "interview because I'm making a UFO doc"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "and I'm James Fox, you know. I was like,"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "and uh he got back to us and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "yeah, not gonna meet with James, but uh"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "he's doing a talk on UFOs. He should"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "know about this landing case that"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "happened in Africa and that was in Rua"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Zimbabwe at aerial school in '94. I"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "think he told me about it in '97 96"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> and I was I was like, yeah, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "going to waste any time on a Yeah, sure."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "A UFO landed at a school and occupants"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "got out and interacted with the school"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "children tele telepathically. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "wasting a second on that case. And I"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "didn't. And the same thing with"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Virginia. Mhm. I heard about Varia in"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "the late '9s when I was making my second"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "UFO documentary. And my British friend"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "who and co-producer at the time, Tim"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Coleman, very smart guy, he's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "yeah, mate. We got to we got to look at"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "this this, you know, cuz we map out the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "film. Generally speaking, it's like,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "hey, let's you know, Bentwaters"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "1980, uh, you know, Tyrron Iran in 1975."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Uh, how about we'll look into the"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Phoenix Lights case and how about you"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "know what I mean? We kind of map the"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "film out that way and then we stitch it"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "together with narrative whatever."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> The Australia case I think you covered."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> Yeah, that was in the phenomenon. But"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "but in any case, at the time I was I was"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "mapping it out and he was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "let's put this one on the chalkboard,"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "you know, and this, you know, you hear"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "about this UFO crash in Brazil and and"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "the live aliens walking through the"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "town.\" And I looked at him and I was"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "like, I picked the wrong partner."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": ">> It sounds nuts to me. I was with I was"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "with my my my buddy Boris and he looked"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "at me kind of sideways and I was looking"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "at him sideways and then I looked at Tim"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "and I said to myself quietly I I think I"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "picked the wrong partner. This guy's"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "nuts. Like you know, not only did I not"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "look into the case for over 10 years. So"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "I finished out of the blue. Then I did"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "director's cut for out of the blue."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "Okay. Years later, then I did a 2-hour"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "special called I know what I saw for I"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "ended up selling that to A&E. was"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "broadcast on the History Channel and um"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "then I got invited to and that was"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "before and I never looked into the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Vargia. refused to. And then I flew to I"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "got invited to Brazil, a place called"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Perowibbe, and I and I met with AJ, this"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "guy AJ De Javard, who's a Brazilian UFO"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "researcher, magazine editor, and um"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "before I left, this guy named Jeff"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Sagansky, I think he was head used to be"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "head of like Sony Pictures, and he was"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "always very instrumental behind the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "scenes helping me get distribution for"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "my UFO films. And I was always really"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "grateful cuz he never wanted a pennant"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "or anything, but but he found out I was"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "going to Brazil and this was like"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "2010 maybe. I never look at the exact"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "date 2010, 2011, something like that."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "And he's like, \"Oh, James, you're going"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "to Brazil. You got to look into that,"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "you know, that ver and I I cringed. I"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "physically I cringed.\" And but Jeff was"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "I had so much respect for him. I I was"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "like, \"You know what? I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "sit there and tell Jeff he's nuts"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "because he's been too influential. He's"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "too much of a nice guy.\" But I said,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "\"Yeah, yeah, sure, Jeff.\" \"Yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "sure.\" \"No, I'll definitely look into"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "that.\" \"Yep, I'll report back for sure.\""}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "\"Yeah, bye.\" Click. And I was like, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "not wasting a second on this case.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "just to give your audience like, \"I"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "understand. I've see people online."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "There's no evidence and where's the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "photographs?\" And I I get it cuz I have"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "that. And I'm not out here trying to"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "prophesize and get people to join my"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "cult of believers. I'm I really mean"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "that when I say it. All I say is listen"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "to the firsthand eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "testimony because it's very compelling."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": ">> We'll be fairing. Before we get into"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Bara, which we'll definitely cover in"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "detail."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": ">> How how have you managed to stay stay"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> sane?"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": ">> I don't I don't want to use the word"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "credible because it's cuz it's it's not"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "really the right word, but how have you"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "managed to just you have so much"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "integrity and respect from not just the"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "UFO community from but from everybody."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "How have you stayed that guy, the the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "most probably the most trustworthy"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "voice?"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> Well, you know, I' I've made mistakes,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "you know, and I try I really try hard to"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "um if I don't believe something, I won't"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "put it in a film, right? And if I have"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "any question, I'll say, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "generally speaking, I do as much"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "background research as I possibly can. I"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "reach out to as many people within the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "that I trust within the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "community, people that can do like full"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "background checks. I call people up. I"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "want to see their military records. I"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "want to see like for instance there was"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "a controversial character named Jason"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Sans and Jason um had an account of an"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "alleged u close encounter of the third"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "kind that happened at Nellis test range"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "back in the '90s. very compelling like"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "wow it's it's really compelling and"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "especially when you hear you know we"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "know about close encounters of the third"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "kind um you know we know about I I've"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "heard a number of reports of people that"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "worked out at the base that claim for"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "you know that there are entities out"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "there I what am I it's a tall I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "know but um I checked his military"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "records I checked in with all the intel"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "folks that I possibly could I did"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "background on the on the UFO footage"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "that leaked from that period. Um, I even"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "contacted his ex-wife and I got I had to"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "pay her because she was like, \"I'm not I"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "have to go up in the attic and dig"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "through all these box dusty boxes and"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "I'm not doing that.\" She didn't like"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "them. Obviously, horses are like that."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> I'll give you $200 per picture."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": ">> I had those pictures like 3 days later."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Bam. You know, of him exactly where he"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "said he was in the it at the b all the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "pictures, all of his military records. I"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "talked to people in the Senate. They sat"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "in a skiff with him. They're like, \"I"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "know he's got PTSD and he might say some"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "off-the-wall stuff, but that guy was"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "there. He has named classified, you"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "know, legacy program names that we got"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "in trouble just for asking about."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "They're like, I know he's got some"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "issues, but that he's legit. He's he was"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "where he says he was, and we think that"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "encounter happened.\" So, I decided to"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "report on it. And I got lambasted by"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "people out there like, \"You connected"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "yourself with Jason Sans.\" It's like,"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "that was a tough call. That was a tough"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "call. I was the one that accidentally"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "outed him. Um, so I make mistakes. And"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "did I make a mistake with that one?"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Would I do things differently? Maybe."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "But this is tough because we're now in"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "an arena where we're having these"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "incredible allegations of crash"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "retrieval, legacy UAP crash retrieval"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "programs. These are, you know, really"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "serious allegations. Where's the proof?"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Right. So we there's there's no smoke"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "without fire. We sense where there's"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "people testifying under oath as to the"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "existence of a crash retrieval legacy"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "program. I've interviewed aerospace"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "engineers and physicists that are"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "directly involved or claim to be"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "directly involved that would love to"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "give us more information, but they need,"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "you know, so I do the best I can."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Sometimes I make mistakes and I try to"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "be kind to everybody and I try to stay"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "in my own lane. Where are you with the"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "whistleblowers and the the current"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "narrative, the folks coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "Grush, Alzando, the guys that come from"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "military intelligence that that have"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "clearance, they clear their talking"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "points through DoD. Where are you with"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "this? Is that is it real? Is it"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "disinformation?"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": ">> Well, so here's what I here's what I say"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "to the people out there that that"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "criticize these whistleblowers. Fair"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "enough. Because they say, \"I'm sick and"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "tired of hearing these allegations, and"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "where's the proof?\" Instead of"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "criticizing them, why don't we recognize"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "the fact that they're saying that they"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "want to tell us the classified details"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "needed, but they are concerned about"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "their personal safety. They're concerned"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "about the consequences. They're"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "concerned about their clearances. Those"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "are legitimate concerns. So instead of"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "criticizing them, why don't we figure"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "out how to create a platform that will"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "enable them to testify under oath to a"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "bipartisan group of lawmakers publicly?"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "Right? So that's like one of the"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "questions that I'd asked aerospace"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "engineer Dr. Eric Davis. He's making"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "some incredible allegations, right? And"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "he's like, \"Look,\" I said, \"Yeah, but"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "this is really frustrating cuz you're"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "telling me there's crash retrieval and"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "there's pictures of aliens and all this"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "other stuff, but where's the\" And he's"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "like, \"Look,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "you get President Trump tomorrow to wave"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "the magic wand and give me immunity,"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "I'll give you all the details you"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "needed.\" So instead of focusing our"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "attention on attacking these people, why"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "don't we just call their bluff and say,"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "\"I tell you what, let's push members of"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "Congress.\" This is what I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "recently. I just met with members of"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "Congress in the task force in Washington"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "DC like 10 days ago. Yep. Right. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "trying to get them to look into the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Varjini case. I'm trying to find out"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "like how can we get hearings on more"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "witnesses? How what sort of an"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "environment can we get to create a"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "platform for all these people that claim"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "to have all this knowledge that want to"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "come forward? They're terrified of the"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "consequences. Why don't we create that"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "platform? Why don't we focus on that?"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Because whether you believe Grush or"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "not, if it's true what he's saying, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "the biggest story in the history of"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "mankind."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": ">> Of course, let's call his bluff. Let's"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "focus on getting the president, the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "executive branch, the, you know, to say,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "\"Hey, wave the magic wand. give these"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "guys immunity. They're dying to testify."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "Let's do it. What are we waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": ">> Even Eric Davis said he would. He'd say"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": ">> He said he would. He said it to me on"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "camera cuz I was really frustrated, too."}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "And I'm sitting there going, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "and people just sit on the sidelines and"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "criticize. I'm like, why don't we call"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "their bluff? Why don't we focus more on"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "resolving this issue as opposed to like"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "that guy's lying, he's deep, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "scop and this this that person. It's"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "like I don't, you know, I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "hear it. All I know is that people are"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "testifying under oath. Under oath saying"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "that there's a crash retrieval program,"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "biologics, all that stuff. What about"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "the um what was his name? The ICIG"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "intelligence uh community inspector"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "general uh that apparently David Grush"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "said he'd given all the classified"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "details needed to verify his claims in a"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "skiff. Um Thomas Mheim, Thomas, is it"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "Thomas Mheim? I think it was. But why"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "don't why don't we put him let's"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "subpoena him and get him to to give us"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "those details. Why don't we focus on"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that? There's no talk of that. Do you"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "see what I'm saying? Of course."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": ">> So, it's like we need to all get"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "together. We need to stop bickering with"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "one another, criticizing online, and"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "focus on a common goal like to to to"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "make this happen. And that's what I was"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "trying to do in DC. That's what I was"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "trying to do with the press conference."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "What is it going to take? You know, Kirk"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "McConnell was talking about it. He said"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "in on the skips with firsthand witnesses"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:33", "text": ">> that was pretty extraordinary. He talked"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "about the environment. There are some"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "people like Christopher Melon for"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "instance is saying that Congress"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "actually has the authority to do this."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "Not even of course"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": ">> the executive branch for sure. But the"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "president of the United States can just"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "wave his magic wand and what does he got"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "to what's he got to lose?"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": ">> Nothing. There'd be statues of him all"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "around the world. There would be"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:52", "text": ">> not everywhere. But but I agree."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> But if he you know"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": ">> but where's the resistance where's the"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "resistance coming from? Who's in charge?"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "Well, so I talked to people in the task"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "force just like 10 days ago. Um, we had"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "a closed door meeting which actually"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Leslie Keane and Ralph Blumenthal just"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "wrote about it today. That story came"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "out in the debrief. I would highly"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "recommend you viewers go check it out."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": ">> 100%."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> Um, cuz it got pictures and very"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "detailed account of what what happened."}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": ">> But they said that the push back they're"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "getting from the DoD is significant. the"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "intelligence agencies significant"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "like what's happening and the and some"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "of the threats you know I mean grush I"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "mean I've heard I can't reveal what I've"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "heard but what I've heard was if it's"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "true that's pretty scary what you know"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "like basically coming in your house"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "while you're gone and leaving notes and"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "other things."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": ">> You know just like you know we can touch"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "you anywhere kind of stuff. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "mean, wherever you stand on someone like"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "Lazar, believe it or not, the government"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "made his life difficult for a good long"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:51", "text": ">> Yeah, for sure."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": ">> So, George,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": ">> I trust George Knap's reporting on that."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:55", "text": ">> I do as well. I trust I trust him more"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "than anyone."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:57", "text": ">> I really do. I have tremendous respect"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "for him."}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": ">> So, what why don't they want us to know"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "what there's some advantage that they"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "have?"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> Okay. So, let's just let's live in an"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "alternate reality for a moment."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": ">> Okay. And let's just imagine that this"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "is all true, okay? Let's imagine that"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "UFOs have crashed. Let's imagine that we"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "have biologics. We have we've captured"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "some alive. Let's imagine that we have"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "this technology in a lab somewhere."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "Let's just say that the observed"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "technology, you know, with UFOs, and"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "it's well documented for over 80 years"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "and some goes way back, but whatever."}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "We'll just talk about the modern UFO"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "wave. These things exhibit a technology"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "that's light years advanced from"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "anything we have in our possession. Even"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "today, listen to David Fraver. Listen to"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "the various pilots over the years talk"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "about have flying rings around the"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "fastest jets and they got no wings and"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "no tail and no no visible means of"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "propulsion. They can hover, accelerate"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "from a standill to out of sight, blink"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "of an eye, right angle turns at high"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "speed. I mean, they go Kirk McConnell"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "talked about the radar tapes. I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "have radar of these objects with no"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "wings. These tic tac shaped objects."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "They're in space. They drop down to sea"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "level faster than a second. Like,"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": ">> you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": ">> 22,000"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": ">> G's 80,000 ft in less than a second."}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "Okay. So,"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "whatever these things are and who's ever"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "piloting these things, if you could"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "weaponize that technology,"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "you're going to you're going to control."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "And of course, that's how the military"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "thinks. So, let's just again in this"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "alternate reality, let's just imagine"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "that that's all true right now. Do you"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "think that those in control of this"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "technology, whether they've figured it"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "out or not, there's a lot of controversy"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "on both sides, some people say we have,"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "some people say we have it, some people"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "say we understand the technology, we"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "don't quite know how to replicate it"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "because the power it would take to"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "generate blah blah blah blah blah. But"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "what incentive would the defense"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "department or the various agencies that"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "are in control of the special accessed"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "you know super ultra secret programs uh"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "how would they benefit by sharing that"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "technology with the rest of the world?"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": ">> They would not."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:14", "text": ">> Okay. So well how about like imagining"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "if that hand that technology got out to"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "the Russians or the Chinese, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "and they weaponized it. They put a nuke"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "on it. Like, you know, I could just see"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "I could see that being an issue of"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "national security. Sure. So, we've been"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "slightly pivoted a little bit, but the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "the the so-called biologics, they call"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "them biologics, the the non-human, you"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "know, intelligent beings. That should"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "not be an issue of national security."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "So, we're kind of pivoting to that."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "We've talked about that at the event,"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "but um"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "they would have to admit that"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "Earth is under some sort of observation."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "we have definitive proof that we're not"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "alone. We have biologics. We've been"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "lying to you guys for 80 plus years."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "Roswell is real. Magenta was real. 30s"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "in Italy. Um, we don't know who they"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "are, where they come from, or what their"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "agenda is. I I I I don't see an"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "incentive to disclose that either."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:10", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:11", "text": ">> Um, I"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> that's a fair answer."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": ">> Yeah. And I don't not I don't agree with"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "that. And a lot of people don't agree"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "with that. People have a fundamental"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "right, right? And what we're talking"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "about that's happening in the United"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "States, it's a global issue. This is"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "going to impact the whole world. You"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "know what I mean? I remember when I met"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "with this is probably one of the first"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "times that I actually thought about the"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "implications and I'm all for disclosure."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "I don't care. It's the truth is the"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "truth and people should know and if the"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "technology has to stay a national"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "security issue issue for all the reasons"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "we just discussed then fair enough but"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "at least confess that you have it."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": ">> So say we have it. Look, we're not"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "sharing it. We can't let our enemies"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "have it. But we do have it."}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": ">> Yeah. I think that there should be an"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "admission of that. I I really do. I met"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "with um Big Robert Bigalow. because"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "right after I did I know what I saw and"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "I got a uh an email from his I still"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "have the email. I got an email from his"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "uh secretary and she's like oh Mr."}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "Bigalow wants to congratulate you on a"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "job well done my film. um I know what I"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "saw. And I was like, \"Oh my god, Robert"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "Bigalow, this guy could fund my next,"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": ">> and uh so we ended up having lunch in in"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "in Las Vegas and at his house and um"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "he's like, you know, you know, kid, cuz"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "I was probably in my late 30s or maybe"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "very or maybe I was 40, but yeah,"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "probably maybe 40.\" He's like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "know, kid,\" he goes, \"You know, we"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "looked into it. I probably poured more"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "money into the phenomenon. I had"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "intellectual heavyweights in the"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "scientific community and NIDS and this"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "and little did I know he was working on"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "OAP and ATIP at the time."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "contract from from Harry Reid,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": ">> but he didn't he didn't tell me about"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "that. But he was like, you know, and do"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "you understand like the impact that"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "disclosure would have and la? And I was"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "thinking to myself,"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> like, you know, no, what what I mean,"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "Kumbaya, group hug. Wow, we're not"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "alone. It's going to this unifying, you"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "know, global, you know, that's that's"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "the way I always looked at it. I thought"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "it'd be really cool. We'd see ourselves"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "for who we really are as one race, one"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "species, one planet. How cool would that"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "be,"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": ">> right? And he just looked at me and he's"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "like, \"Man, we did a study on this and"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "this the impacts would be significant.\""}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "He's like, \"You take every and he said"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "that and I don't know. I'm starting to"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "think that maybe maybe he's right or or"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "maybe it's just the thing that the world"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "needs right now, you know, because uh"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "yeah, I think it would have a unifying."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "It might be initially quite shocking"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "onlogical shock or maybe religions might"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "have some issues with it. Hey, Mike."}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": ">> Um, but uh"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": ">> but I think the Vatican is is a little"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "more open to this idea now."}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:46", "text": ">> It's really funny you should say that"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "uh we reached out to someone who's to"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "speak at our event. I probably won't"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "mention her name, but uh she's like,"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "\"Oh, it's really funny that you you know"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "uh that you reached out and and made a"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "request for me to present at at at your"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "uh at your event in DC.\" She goes,"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "\"Because highlevel people at the Vatican"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "are just telling me about this new"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "witness that you found uh on the Vargia"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "case. They think it's really significant"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "and they said you got to watch this, you"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "know, you got to watch this video"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "because if true, it's the most"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "significant development in the history"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "of the phenomenon and and I have to say"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "I think it is.\" So anyway,"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": ">> I agree. Um where do you stand? My"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "favorite landing video is the Hollowman"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "Air Force Base video."}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:35", "text": ">> Yeah, I mean the the video that we don't"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "have."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": ">> We don't have which we do. We do have"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "it, but we don't. Um, what do you think"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "about that? What happened there?"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": ">> Oh, just like every other case that I've"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "ever investigated, including Sakoro and"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "Rua and Varia. I don't know. I used to"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "always think like"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "that's impossible. And I remember the"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "first time I literally the first real"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "serious time that I'd heard about the"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "the Hullman landing case, I laughed it"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "off pretty quickly and um and then I"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "started investigating Sakoro and that"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "Sakuro is very close stones throw. I"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "started reading articles from a woman"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "named Carell Lorenzan of the UFO"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "bulletin and uh she had described some"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "med and she apparently a pretty"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "reputable source at her during her time."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "She had described some interviews that"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "she had done with people at Hullman Air"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "Force Base that had described this"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "incident. One from the air, one from the"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "ground, some other people, very good"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "articles. And I thought, hm, that's"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "Continued my investigation into Zakoro"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "and I ended up stumbling upon that"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "documentary uh UFOs past, present, and"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "future with uh Enegar and um Sandler."}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "And um I'll make the story quick, but I"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "um I met with both of them and Ammon was"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "like absolutely convinced that it had"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "happened and"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "uh they were producing their documentary"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "in the early '7s and they were working"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "with a guy at the Pentagon named Colonel"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "William T. man who I interviewed and uh"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "he was basically giving them cart blanch"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "to do this UFO dock in the early '7s and"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "giving them unprecedented access to all"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "these bases and NORAD and like it was"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "incredible what happened back in the 70s"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "and um apparently"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "uh and this is one of the reasons why I"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "believe this happened um and I was"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "sticking my teeth into it kind of as a"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "side project. I didn't even report on it"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "because I was just like, \"Whoa, let me"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "check this out, you know, as I was doing"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "other stuff making the phenomenon.\" And"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "uh I got to know Ellen Sandler. I went"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "to his house."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": ">> Uh I was going after some footage that"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "he actually still has of of a of an"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "incident that happened at Vandenberg in"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "the 1960s"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": ">> of an Atlas rocket and a UFO going"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "around. And he had that and I he"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "actually made a deal with me to buy it."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "I was going to give him like 25 grand"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "and then he was going to show it to me."}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "I had to put the money in an escrow"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "account and he was going to show it to"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "me and if I didn't if I liked it and it"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "was everything he said it was going to"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "be he kept the money I the thing off I"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "go and the last I got the money and the"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "last minute he pulled the carpet out and"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "he's like you know I talked to my"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "lawyers and it's really risky and this"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "that the other thing and I I'm really"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "well off and I don't need the risk. I"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "was like, \"Dude, really?\" So, I've been,"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "you know, anyway,"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "during this time, um, and I was also"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "interviewing Coleman and Ammon, which"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "I'm going to release all those"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "interviews pretty soon for free on the"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "internet. And Allan's like, \"Oh, I saw"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "that footage and I was driving my car"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "when he told me this.\" I was like,"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "\"Excuse me, what? You saw the footage"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "from Vandenberg?\" \"No, no, I saw the"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "landing at Hullman.\""}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "I said, \"Okay, hold on a second.\" pull"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "the car over, stop, engine off. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "you're telling me, Alan Sandler,"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "that you saw the landing at Hullman? He"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "goes, \"Yeah, I sure did. It was shown to"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "me by a guy named Paul Shart at Norton"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "Air Force Base.\""}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "Okay, so why is it that Emger doesn't"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "know that?"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "That's weird. So, I closed my eyes and I"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "got him to give me the description. Now,"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "he was like, \"This was clearly not fake."}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "It was a real film footage of a real"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "flying saucer that really flew and"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "really landed.\" And he goes, \"James,"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "just like in a sci-fi movie, the door"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "opened. It didn't have any seams or"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "anything. It just opened up and plump.\""}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "And he was like, I think it was, you"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "know, our technology back in the 70s, we"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "have a flying saucer and we set it up as"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "like a a training video as to what we do"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "if we made contact. I don't agree with"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "him and either was Emman, neither did"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "Paul Charle, but I don't know if he knew"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "and he was just trying to like who"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "knows, but that's what he said. So I"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "said, \"So you're telling me it's not a"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "special effect?\" He goes, \"No, man. This"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "is real footage. It was shown to me by"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "Paul Ble emaggar happened to not be at"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "the base that day.\" And the very next"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "morning, two men in suits showed up. You"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "never saw this like da da da. And it"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "took the footage and it was gone. And so"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "for whatever reason, you know, Allan"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "didn't tell Enegger. And I got actually"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "got on the phone. I got the interview"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "somewhere and I was like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "Emgger, I'm here with Allan or maybe I"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "was with Eminer and had Allan on the"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "phone. I was with Eman.\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "\"Do you know that Allan saw the footage?"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "Why didn't you tell me?\" You know, so"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "Allan saw that footage and he described"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "to me in vivid detail. And if you want"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "me to tell you what what he described,"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "of course, I'm happy to tell you."}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> I've seen the landing, but I haven't"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "seen the doors open."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": ">> So, okay. I Okay, I have not seen the"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "lightning, so I haven't seen any of it."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "But in any case, this is what he told"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": ">> It's gorgeous. Oh, man."}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> He said he said that there were three"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "discs coming over, escorted by military"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "jets coming over Hollowman Air Force"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "Base. I I can't remember. It was"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "daytime, but I can't remember if it was"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "afternoon or morning. I I'm sorry. I I"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "just can't remember."}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:54", "text": ">> But it was it was day."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": ">> It was daytime. No question about that."}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "So there were three discs coming in at"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "rather high altitude and that uh two"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "when it got to a certain proximity of"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "the base, two of them peeled away and"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "one came down and he said it came down"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "almost like a leaf like kind of like it"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "was unstable and maybe had some issues,"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "you know, whatever. I was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "that's kind of how they fly.\" Came down"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "and he goes, \"Landed on some pods.\""}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "I said, \"Well, was the camera like on a"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "tripod? Did they anticipate it coming?\""}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "And I believe he said it was cameras on"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "a tripod. So they were expecting it"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "so-called. I guess they would be."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": ">> And um and he goes, \"James,\" he goes,"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "\"The most incredible part, this is the"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "part I never forget.\" He goes, \"There"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "was no door. Like it just like a seam."}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "There was no seam. It just opened like"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "he goes and just dropped down. Two"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "entities, I guess, came out.\" He didn't"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "really describe what those look those"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "ones looked like cuz I should have"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "asked, but he he did describe what the"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "other one looked like. And it had like a"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "a like Egyptian head"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "thing, Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "um tight fitting suit, uh I think he"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "said big eyes with the vertical slits,"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "very small nose, very insignificant"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "mouth, and he had what what appeared to"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "be some sort of what would be a"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "communication device in his hand. And"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "that came off,"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "met with some base people at the base"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "with a jeep."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:26", "text": ">> That one got in the jeep and and and off"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "off they went and then and I said,"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "\"Well, what happened?\" He said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "the film footage stayed for a minute and"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "then it just cut and the disc was still"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "sitting there when it cut and they were,"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "you know, the steps out and it cut. That"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "was it.\" And uh I was like, \"Maybe this"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "footage does exist.\" And then I started"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "talking to other people about it. you"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "know, Hal put off and Eric Davis and"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "Christopher Melon like what you know and"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "to this day Allan's in his 90s and he's"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "like if you know where to look it's"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "probably still in the archives. I don't"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "know if Arrows found it. I know that I"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "did Eric Davis say he saw it or he knew"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "someone that did see it. Um President"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "George W. Bush apparently was aware of"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "that footage and they had a conversation"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "about it. So I I actually believe that"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "footage exists. Obviously, I can't prove"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "that, but that's that's my background on"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "that on that story."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> Have you come across anyone who um could"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "describe what the reason for that"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "meeting was?"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> Absolutely no idea."}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:27", "text": ">> It's connected to the project Serpo"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "story, but it's just so wrapped up in in"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "disinformation, it's really hard to know"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "what why they they were there."}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:32", "text": ">> Well, the information that I just"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "discussed with you, I feel is pretty"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "damn solid."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:39", "text": ">> Like, it's really solid."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "That is like enough for me to go, am I"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "positive the film footage exists? I"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "don't know. One can never be positive"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "unless you see it for yourself. But I"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "would say uh high level of probability"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "that that footage is real and it does"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "exist. And they almost got to use it and"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "I think I don't know how it got out. And"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "Paul Shart had gotten a call from"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "Colonel Coleman who was like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "these guys are coming to the base. Make"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "everything available.\" And I guess he"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "had just processed it and he was like,"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "\"This was real. Like this is not an"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "act. This was Paul Sher was convinced of"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "it.\" He ended up dying in a head-on"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "collision with his wife. Both died. But"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "he did go on one TV show and talk about"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "it with Eenegger and Emgger was"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "absolutely convinced that the footage"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "existed. He was absolutely convinced."}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "They almost got to use it in their their"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "in their film. And um and and the"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "recreations were based on exactly what"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "that footage shows."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": ">> So the military there was clearly um"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "anticipating that meeting. How long, how"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "far back do you think that goes? The"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "communication, coordination with the"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "military, does this go back to Roswell?"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": ">> I just have no idea. It's all"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "speculation. All I can tell you is what"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "I know, what what I personally"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "investigated. And the"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": ">> Well, that's why we all trust you. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "Is because you say I don't know."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": ">> Yeah, I I don't. And it's just like"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "people go with the Vargi case. Well,"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "this happened here and there was seven"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "days later the girls saw. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "yeah, I know. That's odd. Were there"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "multiple crashes? Did the Did the"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "creatures hang out? Did they have an"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "escape pod? Did they go travel through"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "the water? How did they get there? It's"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "a few miles away, several miles away."}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "Like, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:13", "text": ">> You know, the girls describe this"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "creature. And I believe those girls and"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "those are one of the reasons why I"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "really started digging into the Vargia"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "case."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": ">> We're still teasing that one. We're"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "still teasing that. And and actually,"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "when we get into that case, cuz you're"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "such a magical storyteller. if I step on"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "like any punchlines, if you're building"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "the story, let me know and I'll I'll let"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "you I'll let you do that for this"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "segment, which we're only going to do"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "for another 5 10 minutes."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:35", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:37", "text": ">> so what's the earliest case that you"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "believe? Do you believe Roswell? Do you"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "believe the multiple crash theory?"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:42", "text": ">> Oh, I know. I could tell you why I"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "believe Roswell if you want."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": ">> Yeah. So, um, first of all, I really"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "believed, you know, uh, Jesse Marcel."}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": ">> Yes. I was friends with his son who"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "handled the debris, Jesse Marcel Jr. who"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "was a medic in the in the military."}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> And he had the debris that had markings"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "on it, didn't he?"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. He Well, the the dad came"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "back from the ranch with Mac Brazzle."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": ">> And one other military guy and he was"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "woke his kid up in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "night like, \"You got to see this stuff."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "I'm waking you up. You got to see this.\""}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "And he showed him the material, the"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "paper, the I beams with this symbol,"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "blah blah blah."}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:16", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": ">> I knew him, so I knew someone who"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "handled the debris. There's still pieces"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "out there, by the way, cuz I knew other"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "people that when when I when I would go"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "to Sakoro, there were the plains of San"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "Augustine and Magdalina and uh Dal and"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "that whole area. What? Talk about remote"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "high desert like plains. Wow, beautiful."}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "But I talked to a gentleman out there"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "and he's like, \"Yeah, there's there"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "still some of those pieces of of Roswell"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "out here.\" I said, \"How do you know?\" He"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "goes, \"Cuz I know the ranchers that have"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "it. In fact, I got to touch one of"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "them.\" I was like, \"Really? Do you think"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "they'd talk to me?\" He goes, \"I don't"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "think so. They don't talk to out"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "outsiders and they don't talk to anybody"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "about that.\" So, I had a lead on that. I"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "have the guy's name, but that's a side"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "story. Roswell,"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "um, of course, you look into it. They"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "announce they make the announcement that"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "they recover this thing. Then they"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "recant whatever how many hours later,"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "they have that press conference. They"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "throw debris down on the ground. Right."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "Well, two out of the three, you know,"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "Remy and Dose and Marcel. Remy kept"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "shut, but Dubose and Marcel both went on"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "the record later. That was a cover story"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "for what really crashed. It was not of"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "this earth like you know I cover it in"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "in the in the phenomenon quite"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "extensively."}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "But I was making um probably out of the"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "blue probably it was probably out of the"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "blue. It might have been my first UFO"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "doc in San Francisco I was telling you"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "about and my my partner at the time"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "Boris Zubof uh lived in this apartment"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "complex on the top floor with a view of"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "Dolores Park. Really nice. And he he he"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "one day he goes,"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "\"My um my land lady, she's in her 80s,"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "wants to have tea with you.\" And it was"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "in the '9s. I said, \"What what about?\""}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "He goes, \"I don't know.\" She found out"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "we were doing a documentary on UFOs and"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "she wanted to have tea. I was like,"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "\"Okay.\" Um I'll have tea with her. Sure."}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:03", "text": ">> I love tea."}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:06", "text": ">> Yeah, I love tea. I'm English. I was My"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "dad drinks used to drink 20, 30 cups a"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "day. And I I used to jokingly see like"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "how many cups of tea can I bring my dad"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "before he says, you know, he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "want. One day I just bought him like cup"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "after cup after cup cuz he's always"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "asking. It's kind of a pain in the ass"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "to make him a tea. And I got to like 25"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "like and he's like I'm good, you know."}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "It's like wow. Yeah. So anyway, we have"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "tea and she says um"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "um you know I I don't want to you know I"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "don't want to go public or anything. I"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "just I found out you're doing this"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "documentary on UFOs and I want you to"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "know that I think it was her husband or"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "someone that she was I think I think it"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "was her husband that was deeply in um he"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "was a high level uh scientific"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "researcher for the for the government"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "and back in the back in 1950"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "he told me and she goes I haven't talked"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "to anybody about this she was in her 80s"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "telling me this she didn't want any"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "money she didn't want to like go on the"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "just wanted me to Now she he said that"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "that a UFO a flying saucer crashed in"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "the desert of New Mexico and there were"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "aliens recovered. He told me that in"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "1950 nobody was talking about that. She"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "goes, \"I've held it in all this time.\""}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "And she goes, \"This guy was like so"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "solid and so credible and so honest and"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "he told me that like that happened and I"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "thought, why would she make that up?\""}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:31", "text": ">> No reason to make it up. And you take"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "that with all the rest of the stuff"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "that's going on and all the military I I"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "had the distinct advantage. I got to go"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "to the 50th anniversary of the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "crash and at the time it was 1997 July,"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "you know, there were a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "still alive because if you're in your"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "20s or 30s, you're in your 70s and 80s,"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "right? A lot of people that I got to"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "meet. I was so glad I got to go that"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "firsthand witnesses of all different"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "walks of life, you know, witnesses of"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "debris and whatever. Um, so that's"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "that's primarily why I'm totally and of"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "course I've talked to and tell folks I"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "even know where the I I was told where"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "the alien bodies were from Roswell and"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "the individual that told me where they"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "were in California Southern. That's"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "where they went to."}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": ">> I'm just that that's what it was said to"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "me. And I said to No. Yeah. No. And I"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "said to this individual, I can't reveal"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "this individual's name, but we were at"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "dinner having wine and it slipped out"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": ">> and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:26", "text": ">> I was thinking that I thought they'd be"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "on the East Coast. Really? Like"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:30", "text": ">> you should always bring wine to"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": ">> interface. Totally. And uh and then the"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "next day I brought it up and the"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "individual was like, \"No, I didn't.\" I"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "said, \"You did. Actually, we I heard it"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "loud and clear.\" \"No, I didn't.\" \"Uh,"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "you did.\" No, no, I didn't. Isn't"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:44", "text": ">> that funny?"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": ">> It just like slipped out. So, apparently"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "the there's some body at least one body"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "from the Roswell in Southern California."}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "I'm not sure exactly where, but I heard"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "Southern California."}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:54", "text": ">> Yeah, I heard one went to went to Los"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "Alamos."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": ">> Would have gone to the east. I thought"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "cuz I was told recently that that I"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "don't know if it was the live entities"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "or the entities in general on the east"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "coast. I got that much out of this"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "individual. It's like, well, where, you"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "know, cuz I want to know where the damn"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "bodies from from Virginia went,"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:14", "text": ">> right? And um oh you know I think I know"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "and I was like uh"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "can you tell me more like east coast?"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "And I went and then the individual is"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "like that's that's all I'm giving you."}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "I'm not saying anything more."}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> Oh god."}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "cuz I'm like curious too like even if I"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "can't report on it publicly I still want"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "to know. Right."}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": ">> So I was asking this until Yeah. We had"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "we had a we we we we were together at"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "the uh Age of Disclosure premiere in New"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "York City and we watched the movie and"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "there was a Q&A and then afterwards"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "there was drinks at a bar and like like"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "got what food or whatever and I saw this"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "person I've been really wanting to talk"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "to and I talked to him once before"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "standing over the bar with a drink. I"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "was like good sign went over there got"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "myself a little whiskey. Hey, you know,"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "we start chatting it up and uh I didn't"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "want to be too forceful cuz I can be a"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "little overwhelming sometimes cuz I'm so"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "curious and I you know I'm I get so"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "excited. But I was I was like I was like"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "you know I I heard that you know there's"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "not really like that many people like in"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "the real know like that with the"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "percentage of you know how many people"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "really know the bigger picture. He goes,"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "\"About"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "10 10 people on the planet have the"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "bigger picture.\""}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Wow. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "What would you consider like where"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "you're at?"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "And he's like, \"Probably one of 30.\""}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:43", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": ">> And I was like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "what about like Hal Putoff?\" Cuz"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "Halputoff told me. He goes, \"You know,"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "James,"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "this is how much I know."}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "This is how much I've shared with you.\""}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "He's like, \"Hal's probably one of 50, I"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "would say.\""}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "My god. So I said,"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": ">> \"Hal shows up in all these stories.\""}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "There's other things about Hal that I"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "can't really discuss with you, but I had"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "some weird telepathic stuff with him"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:16", "text": ">> you like mindmelded with how put on"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:20", "text": ">> I'd like to do Let me stay on point with"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "this one because I can't really"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "so I said uh cuz I you know and I didn't"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "want to pry too much because you know"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "you people clam up you know when you're"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "when you're too aggressive but I was but"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "I was really dying and I actually saw"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "Leslie Kaine"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "uh on the other side of the room and she"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "was hanging out with people from like"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "either the CIA or the FBI. I can't"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "remember people's task force. I'll tell"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "you that story a little later cuz that"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "was funny. All the guys serving drinks"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "were CIA."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, no, they were knowingly out"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "like we're here like, you know, and um"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "I see Leslie look at me and she saw that"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "look on my face. Leslie's known me for a"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "while, like probably almost 30 years, a"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "little under, but she looked at me and"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "she saw she goes, \"I know that look.\""}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "Cuz I was, you know, I was really"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "focused. I really wanted to hear from"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "this person. So, I said, \"Uh oh, you"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "know, couple sips.\""}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "I heard that. Um, I don't know. Some"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "people say the bigger picture is a"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "little scary."}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": ">> Little scary."}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> A little scary. He's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "yeah, I could see that.\" I'm thinking,"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "\"You can see that? Like, why can you see"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "that? Like, how?\" So I said, um, I like"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "paused and like, you know, tried to be"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "measured and calm and I said, uh, well,"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "like, like how scary? Well, you don't"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "need to be worried. Okay. Well, what do"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "you mean by scary? Well, intent."}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:51", "text": ">> Intent is scary."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:54", "text": ">> That's what he said."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": ">> Oh, you got to get more."}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:57", "text": ">> I'm right on the cusp of like, all"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "right, what's the intent? That was my"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "next question. But I was like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "and this person with a cocktail came up"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "and slipped in between the two of us and"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "oh my god, I've been wanting to talk to"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "you and d I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "so now that's on hold."}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": ">> I told you you can't trust those"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "bartenders, man."}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:20", "text": ">> I just want to I just want to know what"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "the hell's going on. All right. You"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "know, I want to know what's going on."}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:27", "text": ">> well, let's take a break."}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:28", "text": ">> I don't know. Maybe if I'll ever know"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "what's going on."}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": ">> I don't know if we ever will. Um, if"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "anyone will, you'll get to it. We'll"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "take a quick break. We'll come back."}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "We'll talk about Virginia. Fascinating."}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:37", "text": ">> Perfect."}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:40", "text": ">> All right. All right. Back with James"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "Fox. Um, when I first heard about the"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "Virginia case in Brazil, I thought"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "there's no way there's anything to this."}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "It's it's a it's a brown slippery alien."}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "When the I was there's nothing to it."}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "And then uh I started doing some"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "research and of course my primary source"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "was Moment of Contact and I was like"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:04", "text": ">> this happened this story happened."}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": ">> Do um I know that you your newest doc is"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "sort of an addendum to the first one. Do"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "you want to do you want to tell the"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "original story or would you rather us"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "cut it in?"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": ">> Well, no. Yeah. Uh um I've got some"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "clips too. I'll show those in a little"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "bit. Okay. But um first of all I want to"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "say I completely acknowledge and and and"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "respect that position. I see it online."}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "I get attacked all the time"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "you know and I George Nap told me he"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "goes don't read the comments. Generally"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "generally speaking I try not to read the"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "comments and every now and again you"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "read them and kind of"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "don't do it"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:37", "text": ">> cuz some people are just like you know"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "really rude. Like you can have a"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "spirited debate and you could be"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "skeptical. That's fine, but don't be an"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": " You know, like"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:44", "text": ">> if you're on Reddit, you don't know what"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "you're talking about."}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": ">> Just really rude. Like just really rude."}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "It's like,"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:52", "text": ">> how many times have you been to Brazil?"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": ">> So many times. Four times in the last 12"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "months. Four times. Wow. In the last 12"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "months. I was just there a couple days"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "ago."}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:05", "text": ">> And uh that's why I look like And"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:08", "text": ">> but uh um so I totally respect that"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "opinion. And I'll say I I myself was"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "there and again I'm not putting this out"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "as the gospel. I'm clearly saying that"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "as someone who's investigated UFOs for"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "over 30 years, investigated this"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "particular case on and off for over 16"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "years, um I feel that at the very least"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "even those most skeptical can look at"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "this firstirhand eyewitness testimony."}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "Even Michael Shurmer said to me, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "that's pretty compelling stuff.\""}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> Mhm. like you know Michael Shurmer"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "Skeptic magazine pretty compelling"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "Why can't we agree to like say hey"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "something significant happened? People"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "saw UFOs. People saw UFO crash. People"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "saw UFO in distress. People saw strange"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "creatures. They were intelligent beings"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "with large heads, big almond shaped"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "eyes. The doctor described one of the"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "creatures as being more more white with"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "the same eyes, same big teardropshaped"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "head, um same telepathic communications"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "through the eyes. The girls described"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "something, you know, more brown,"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "suffering, hot heat. The other one was"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "an air conditioned environment in the"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "ICU. Are they chameleons? Can they are"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "there different species on one cra? I"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "don't know. Now, I know this story well,"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "so if you find me stepping on any of"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "your reveals, let me know because you're"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "a storyteller."}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": ">> And I think that's why your docu"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "documentaries are so good is because you"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "clearly are a storyteller and it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "sound like"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:42", "text": ">> I don't want to insult you. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "feel like journalism. It feels like you"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "unwrapping the story and the mystery for"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "us, which I love. So,"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:50", "text": ">> I think I think it's really important"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "that it's it's beautiful. David West,"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "who's my DP, just he takes he's as into"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "the photography and the B-roll as I am,"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "the topic and the and and the subject"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "matter. It was a really nice"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "combination."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "Um, a film should be entertaining. It"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "should be beautiful. It should be an"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "experience, right? It should be but it"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "also should be educational like and with"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "a serious tone. And I like to have fun"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "too as well cuz like without humor like"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "you know, come on. when I make some"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "funny jokes in the out takes and stuff."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": ">> The out takes at the end of great"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": ">> but I also think about like the skeptic"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "in the room and that's great there."}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "There should be we shouldn't just"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "believe nobody should just believe me"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "because I'm saying a UFO crash and live"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "aliens. I don't expect you to. And I and"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "I remember when I got back from the last"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "trip when I made moment of contact, it"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "was like 2021, late 2021 or maybe it was"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "early 2022, something like that. And I"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "had CNN at my house in Vermont and with"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "Leslie Kaine and they were going to do a"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "little piece on me for the show they"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "were doing. And they were like, \"Oh, you"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "just got back from Brazil. It's so"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "exciting. We heard that you're"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "investigating and blah blah blah blah"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "blah. Well, we'd love to talk to you"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "about this on camera.\" And I said,"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "\"Yeah, that's not going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "Like, \"Why not?\" I said, \"I'm happy to"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "talk about the phenomenon. I'm happy to"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "talk about out of the blue, whatever,"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "you I said, \"No, cuz you guys are going"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "to look at me like, you know, you need"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "to up the dosage of the medication that"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "I'm not even on, and uh I'll wait for"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "the film to come out, and if you guys"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "want to cover it, then that's fine. And"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "I'll remind your audience when when the"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "first cut of Moment of Contact dropped,"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "people were looking at me like I mean,"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "people that I was really close to. I"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "mean, I had a reputation of doing the"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "phenomenon, right? I interviewing high"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "level intelligence officials. I was the"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "only one to get to Harry Reid on camera"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "before he was diagnosed with cancer."}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "like, you know, that was I I had a level"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "of access that I never had before and"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "and success that I'd never really had"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "before. That film really transcended the"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "UFO community into a much broader, more"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "mainstream audience, which was one of my"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "objectives. And so I kind of"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:57", "text": ">> that was a that was a top 10 doc when it"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "came out, I believe."}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": ">> Yeah. No, it was number three in all"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "genres, right? Number two or number"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "three?"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:03", "text": ">> In all genres."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:06", "text": ">> In all genres. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": ">> Wasn't Veno supposed to be?"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:09", "text": ">> Yes. So, so you looked into it and you"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "said, \"Oh, I got to go.\""}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": ">> I looked into it for years and I filmed"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "and I cut it all out."}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": ">> You said, \"I need to do a whole"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> I need more.\" I didn't I said, \"We need"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "to find the crash witness. We need to"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "find more of this witness. We need to d"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> Thank goodness.\" Yeah. And I was like,"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "and my counterparts in Brazil were"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "devastated when they found out."}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "Absolutely dev. Remember the work we'd"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "done already."}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": ">> And I said, \"Marco,"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "sit tight. I promise you we're going to"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "go back to the drawing board. We're"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "going to do just this film needs an"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "entire dedication to just this this case"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "needs to be a film on its own and we"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "need to go back and do more you know"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "research and we've been investigating."}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "So the film dropped at a time when we"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "hadn't had congressional hearings. We"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "hadn't had David Grush talk about"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": ">> this is 23 when it dropped."}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": ">> No, I dropped this in uh 2022."}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": ">> Yeah. I can't remember the exact date. I"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "I'm sorry, but I dropped it in 2022,"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:06", "text": ">> which is an eternity in this field."}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:08", "text": ">> And we had the first congressional"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "hearings either earlier that year, but"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "then no mention of crash retrieval. It"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "was Andre Carson, Representative Andre"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "Carson put this on. There were no like"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "witnesses in the audience. It was like"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "really sterile and but it was still, you"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "know, a hearing and then but we hadn't"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "had David Grush. we hadn't had all these"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "crash retrieval allegations, you know,"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "bodies, you know, and I remember when I"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "was not even done with the case, I mean"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "the film yet, Lou Alzando was contacting"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "me and he was like, \"I need a copy.\" I"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "was like, \"Well, Lou, it's not done yet."}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "I don't care. I need a copy. I need it"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "now.\" I was like, \"Okay.\" I was telling"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "my partner, Boris, hey, can you do an"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "export with a with a security, you know?"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "And um he's like, \"Yeah, you know what's"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "going on?\" I was like, \"I don't know."}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "Apparently, it's really urgent. He goes,"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "\"You have no idea who's watching this"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "right now.\" And what he was doing was he"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "was trying to demonstrate the Americans"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "involvement. So, he was particularly"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "interested in the second half of the"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "film just so he can show various people"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "like, \"Hey, this is real. This is"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "serious. This is happening. Look at this"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "case in particular.\" Not that he was"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "basing everything on that one particular"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "case, but but he was showing that case."}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "And then, little did I know there was a"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "build to that huge congressional hearing"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "with David Crush. I mean, that was a"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "pivotal moment. Y,"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:25", "text": ">> you know, and I"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:26", "text": ">> I had people telling me like, you're"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "really going to jeopardize the"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "reputation that you've spent so long,"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "you know, putting together and your"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "access to tell folks and now you're"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "going to report on this alleged crash"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "and these live aliens walking through"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "the town. Like, dude, really? And I"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "said, man, I'm telling you, I've been"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "I've been going there for years. I've"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "been knocking on doors. I've been"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "meeting with the firsthand witnesses."}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "I'm telling you, there's something to"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "Just hear me out, you know. And um and I"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "put my neck out and I dropped that film"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "I would say it did moderately well and"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "it was brought up on a number of"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "occasions and Joe Rogan had had me on"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "for the program and I know we sent this"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "other film out for him but he didn't"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "watch it because he felt the same way I"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "did. This is as if anybody else"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "would. And then a couple people on his"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "show,"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "they were like"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "James Fox's new film, like you know, and"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "I I was watching it happen because"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "people were like, Joe, you know, they're"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "talking about your movie on Joe Rogan."}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "And it was like one and then another"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "person brought it up. Then there was"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "like a little I another little mention"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "and then a couple weeks go by and I'm in"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "workout class. Bunch of middle-aged"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "dudes getting together older than"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "middle-aged and uh we all just get"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "together with the dudes only class doing"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "exercise whatever. Yeah. Just you know"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "we have fun. and we put music on and we"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "work out really hard and we all have a"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "good laugh and you know and uh every now"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "and again I'll check my phone cuz"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "sometimes like my son's got an issue at"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "school or something and I check my phone"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "and it's Rogan and he's like he's like"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "bro oh my god I just watched Moment of"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "Contact. Holy Like that. I was"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "like oh thanks so much. I'm I'm really"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "glad you liked it. He goes he goes uh"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "you want to come on my podcast next"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "week? And I was like does the pope is"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "the Pope Catholic? And he puts LOL. like"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "he was really funny and um so that"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "really kind of catapulted it and then of"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "course you know you know the"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "congressional hearings and all that"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "stuff started happening and it all"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "started going down and I remember when I"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "was watching the congressional one of"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "the first times that my son wanted to go"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "play with me and I was I sat there in"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "this chair and I was watching it live"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "cuz I couldn't be there from my phone"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "and I just had tears flowing down my"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "face just constant flow like a waterfall"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "all the whole time watching it going all"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "the ridicule all the laughter after all"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "being made fun of and now this is"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "starting to come out and I can't tell"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "you what that felt like for me. someone"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "who's just been ridiculed and laughed"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "at. And that's why it's like today I'm"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "getting heckled and people are"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "complaining about the, you know, there's"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "no photographic evidence and it's"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:04", "text": " You know, it's like, okay, so"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "what are you doing? Are you going to"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "Brazil four times in the last 12 months?"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "Are you knocking on doors? Are you"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "meeting with neurologist neurosurgeons"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "and forensic pathologists and all these"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "different, you know, firsthand"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "witnesses, tracking down military? Like,"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "what are you doing? Like I understand"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "you don't think that I want the"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "photographic evidence. You don't think"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "that I'm going after that with"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "everything in my might. I'm going on"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "every big podcast across Brazil. We have"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "the biggest. We're getting mentioned"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "right now on the biggest platforms in"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "all of Brazil. The events we just did at"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "the National Press Club and the and the"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "film and the italoo's testimony is"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "exploding across Brazil right now. 23"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "million followers, 20 million follow."}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "It's like it's happening, right? We have"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "a one of the biggest platforms in all of"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "Brazil. They invited me on it, but I"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "couldn't be there cuz I was dead. I was"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "here to be with you and I need to go"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "home cuz my my kid hasn't seen me"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "forever and there's but but but"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "is going and other people part of my"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "team are going. So, it's exploding"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "across Brazil. I'd love to see, you"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "know, we did we did this big event at"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "the National Press Club where we flew in"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "witnesses to to meet. We also had that"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "meeting I told you about earlier with a"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "closed door meeting with members of"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "Sydney members of Congress, people in"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "the task force and just saying, \"Hey"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "man, you don't have to believe these"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "witnesses.\" They were very impressed"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "with those witnesses. Neurosurgeon,"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "forensic pathologist, you know, it's"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "like, \"Okay, what did you see?\""}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": ">> Face to face contact."}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:28", "text": ">> Anyone who watches your second Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "watching investigation, sorry. watch the"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "last stick around for the last scenes of"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "your second cut because they're so"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "touching, but it really drives home that"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "the these folks are telling the truth."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:42", "text": ">> I tell you, man, like we there's people"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "are like, \"Well, Dr. Elo, you know, in a"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "video statement said that, you know, he"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "only saw the video.\" I was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "that was us. We were going after him two"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "years ago because we have someone who's"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "been, you know, you need to talk to this"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "doctor.\" So, so we've been doing that."}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "We follow, believe me, I follow every"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "lead. we've been going after and Marco"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "Leo, my partner, was really put boots on"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "the ground. I'm always helping support"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "his operations when I'm back in the"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "States and uh he gets he gets finally an"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "interview just a meeting with Dr. Italo"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "and it was on a Zoom call. We'd heard"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "that he'd seen the video and so that's"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "what we're going after. Who showed you"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "the video? Where's the video today? like"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "that. That was my my sole purpose in"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "life during that meeting on Zoom was and"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "he and he confesses that he did see the"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "video and we found out the name of the"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "person that shot it unfortunately died"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "of a heart attack, but that person had a"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "widow. He had a a mistress who had a a"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "child with that mistress. We befriended"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "them. We prevented the window widow."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "We're digging through his her deceased"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "husband's affairs in his office. Brought"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "his computer home. Like people have no"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "idea like what we're doing behind the"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "scenes. There's other operations"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "happening right now that I can't even"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "talk about, but I have a laser-like"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "focus. Now, after that meeting, Italo, I"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "didn't think to even ask him if he saw"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "the creature. I didn't."}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:59", "text": ">> Well, but take us back to 96 first."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:01", "text": ">> I will just wrap this up real quick. And"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "Dr. Italo said,"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:05", "text": ">> \"Yeah, I saw the creature.\" And then he"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "sat down very briefly with my partner"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "and he said, \"I didn't see the he was"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "at, did you see the bean?\" He goes,"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "\"No.\" But then he had a heart attack and"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "he had, you know, cancer health issues."}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "And that's when he decided a year later,"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "I'm going full monty. And it went out."}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "But yeah, let's back up."}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:24", "text": ">> So, what is it? January 96. If I"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "remember, there's a farmer and his wife"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "see a cigar- shaped, school bus shaped"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "object floating over their field."}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:34", "text": ">> Uh, Enrico and Orina Defas."}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:35", "text": ">> Yes. Defas. And um, so that happens and"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "then we get"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:38", "text": ">> Very believable."}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:38", "text": ">> Very And then there's Carlos Duza,"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:43", "text": ">> Carlos Duza and a new witness, Fabio."}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "Fabio Forado. Oh, right."}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": ">> That we just got and for the first time"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "ever, we got Google Maps. Now, you don't"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "know how things are going to line up."}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:52", "text": ">> Google Maps like that's that's"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "impressive because it was like, well,"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "this person, where do they live? Well,"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "where did these guys and where does, you"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "know, Ardino and where did Carlos say?"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "And for the first time ever in this new"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "cut, we like we got Google Maps and we"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "were like, oh my god,"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": ">> boom, boom, boom. Right here. Like it's"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "right there."}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:14", "text": ">> It So, I get goosebumps cuz and the same"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "thing for I mean, yeah, I did the drone"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "shots and I would get locations for"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "different various interviews. Oh, you"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "saw the blockade here. You're the the"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "the media that had the blockade. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "it was here. The girls had the encounter"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "here. That makes perfectly good sense"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "why they'd had the blockade. Three"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "blocks away. Yep. Just a couple blocks"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "away. And then the capture, guess what?"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "Just a couple blocks away. Then the"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "family of doctors that we interviewed,"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "we got a full aerial view for the with"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "the drone just a few blocks away. The"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "family that night saw an operation of a"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "disc flying slow and low over the area."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "This is the first time you put it"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "together. Like, holy was this an"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "extraterrestrial rescue operation? Like,"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "I'm sorry. I know this is really hard to"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "swallow, but if the account should be"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "believed, that's exactly what it was."}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "And we actually have a footage of a disc"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "taken at night. It's one of the best"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "night disc foot footage. It's in the"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "documentary. And we we we repackaged it"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "cuz I was like, well, hold on a second."}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "That was shot here. How far away is"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "that? 2 months after 1996. Oh, wow."}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "Could be connected. Don't know. But um"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "this family describing this this disc"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "flying, they were like, I was looking"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "for something. I said, how do you know I"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "was looking for something? the whole"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "family like because it was super slow"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "and it was going to the end, stopping,"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "coming back, going in, stopping."}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "I'm like, \"Wow, if that's true, that was"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "a extraterrestrial search and rescue"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "operation.\" And guess what? It was right"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "over where the girls saw the beam. It's"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "exact. If it was going to be looking for"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "anything, that's the spot where it would"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "be looking."}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:50", "text": ">> So, take us through Duza, the girls, the"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "blockade, and then the capture."}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:57", "text": ">> Yes. So January 1996,"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "there are sightings of a cylindrical"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "shaped object. Like people described it"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "as a big school bus or like a cigar"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "shaped and it it was like um a metallic"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "kind of polished aluminum whatever and"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "uh had no didn't make any very little to"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "no sound at all. And it didn't have any"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "visible means of propulsion."}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "Uh almost all the witnesses described it"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "had a gash in the back of it. one guy uh"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "the new witness for um Fabio Forado he"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "said that it was in he clearly was in"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "trouble and it was making some kind of"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "weird noise. It seemed to be in trouble"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "but he looked at it from above so he"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "didn't see the gash. Um but they they"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "see this thing in distress. They're all"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "expecting it to crash."}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "Carlos Susza who's an ultralight pilot"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "and a geography teacher is driving up to"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "the north from Sao Paulo going up to uh"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "Theres Garsonius I believe this was in"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "the state of Minister Ice and and uh"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "very early in the morning he's going to"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "go meet his buddies going to go flying"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "ultral lights early in the morning 5:00"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "or something and uh he's driving on"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "Fernando Diaz I think it was freeway and"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "he sees uh just outside Varenia this"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "farm called the Molini farm he sees"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "scar-shaped object to he's like, \"What"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "the hell is that?\" Like, \"It's"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "struggling.\" He's like, \"Whatever it is,"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "it's it's barely staying in the sky."}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "Like, it's coming looks like it's coming"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "down.\""}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "He thought maybe this is some sort of"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "experimental military thing or maybe"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "it's a blimp or like what the hell? And"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "then it staggers and then it just goes"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "boom and hits this field in this goes"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "off the freeway, drives up this dirt"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "road, gets to the impact site. He's"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, whoever's, you know,"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "flying this thing, they're they need"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "help.\" That's what he was thinking."}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:45", "text": ">> He's a pilot."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": ">> Yeah. He gets out of the car and he he"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "said, \"James, the first thing I noticed,"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "which I wasn't expecting, is normally"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "with a plane crash, you'd smell like"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "kerosene or, you know, uh uh jet A fuel"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "or whatever, you know, that that's the"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "kind of anticipated smell you'd get from"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "a from a plane crash.\" He goes, \"This"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "wasn't like that. This was like ammonia"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "and and like really strong rotten eggs"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "or something. He goes, \"James, it was so"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "strong. My eyes were watering. I had"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "grabbed my shirt and I pulled my shirt"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "over my mouth and my nose like Jesus"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "Christ, what the hell?\" And he's looking"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "around. He's looking at it and and he"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "picks up a piece. What he said was like"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "just like aluminum looking. And he, you"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "know, shaped kind of like this. And he"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "picks it up and he goes, \"James, it was"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "light as a feather. It was like barely"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:33", "text": "feel it in my hands.\" And"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "um just when that was happening, he was"}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "going to put it in his pocket. The"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "military trucks came in from the"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "opposite direction, but he said he"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "crumpled it and then when he released"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "it, it went right back in its shape,"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "which reminds me very much of Roswell."}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:45", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": ">> Now,"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:52", "text": ">> so so this happens. He gets threatened"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "at gunpoint. Um he he leaves terrified,"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "like really threatened. Seriously"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "threatened. I mean, those guys"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "threatened everybody. everybody that we"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "interviewed, either the blockade or even"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "the the media for asking questions. You"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "ask one more question, you're going to"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "jail. You know, this is a national"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "security issue. Jose said that across"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "the board to everybody. He leaves, he's"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "totally freaked out. At the time, he was"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "still thinking like some sort of"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "experiment. He saw something he"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "shouldn't have seen, obviously, but but"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "he was he wasn't thinking"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "extraterrestrial. He he just wasn't. Um"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "he stops at a gas station a few miles"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "down the road just to comp get a coffee."}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "He goes in, he orders a coffee and then"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "in this black kind of dark blue or"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "whatever car pulls up. Two men in suits"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "get out, tall suits and um they knew his"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "name. They knew where he lived. They"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "knew his wife's name. All this stuff."}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "You didn't see what you saw. You talk"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "about this. You're going to have some"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "serious problems with your life. Like D"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "and threatened him and then left. And"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "one of the witnesses at the gas station"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "apparently said, \"You can't let those"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "people talk to you like that. you need"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "to get their license plate number and"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "here take this piece of paper and go get"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:11:59", "text": "their license plate number and report"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "them. He goes out there and there's no"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "license plate on the car and it's gone."}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:02", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:04", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "he hears he starts hearing reports in"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "the media about these girls saw this"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "strange creature and that's when he was"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "like maybe it is connected to what"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "I saw this UFO crash like oh my god"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "maybe it was not of this earth. So he"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "meets with a researcher named Cladio"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "Kovo. Cladio Kovio gives one on camera"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "statement from him then he vanishes for"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "26 years and that was one of the things"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "when I was talking to my partner Marco"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "Leal co-producer uh I said we we got to"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "find Carlos and they did we did"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "ultimately did find him after 26 years"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "and I I don't know if how long how long"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "it took him to finally meet with me in"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "Sa Paulo and then I said would you be"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "willing to go on camera out to this back"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:48", "text": "to the site for the first time in 20"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "whatever it was 26 years and Um,"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "and he's like, \"Yeah, yeah, I'll do"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "that. I'll come with you guys.\""}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:55", "text": ">> Convincing."}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": ">> Oh, no. Well, we massaged the friendship"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "for a while. Oh, hell yes. Are you"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "kidding me? The guy didn't have there"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "was nothing to gain and everything to"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "lose. But Marco de developed a"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "friendship. We slowly just like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "we're taking this investigation"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "seriously. We really want to talk to"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "you.\" I'd have to talk to Marco, but it"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "was months and months and months. And"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "then I came there in 2021. And that's"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "when I said, \"Hey, maybe you'll come"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "meet us in South Pal. We stayed at a"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "hotel in Sello. He met with us. We"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "talked, got to know each other a little"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "bit. And then I asked him, \"Hey, we"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "really love to take you out to the side"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "to the site.\" And we did. So anyway,"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "fast forward uh January 20th, which was"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "like a almost a full week later, and"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "these girls, Katya, Valkyia, and Lilani,"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "ages 14, 16, and 21, were walking"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "through, taking a shortcut, walking"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "through this field. It was like 3:20 in"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "the afternoon. January 20th is hot. It's"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "that's a summertime. Yep."}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:56", "text": ">> Really hot day. And uh they said that I"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "was just at the cinder block wall. They"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "said that there was some graffiti on the"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "cinder block wall in this field they"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "were going through and that that kind of"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "caught their eye. They're looking at"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "this graffiti and then they look they"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "were like, \"That a statue?\" Like what"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "the hell is that? And there was like"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "this creature like kind of slumped over"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "and just looking I mean not really"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "moving just kind of sitting there up"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "against the wall. The wall was here and"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "one of"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": ">> And they're right here right there."}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:28", "text": ">> Right there 10 ft away maybe 8 ft away."}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "And all of a sudden I think Liliana"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "who's 16 like screams like oh my god"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "what is that thing? and it turns and it"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "looks at them, locks eyes"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "and there's communication with the eyes."}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "Liliana is 16. She's got a younger"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "sister, Varia. She grabs her younger"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "sister. I mean, there she said there was"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "communication. This thing was stressed."}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "It was terrified. It was suffering. It"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "was like really wanting help. But they"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "were thought it might be the devil. It"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "had red eyes. Like, you know, it was"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "oily and suffering and the heat and"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "really suffering. This thing was"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "suffering. Grabs her younger sister"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "Valkyia, leaves Katya who's 21. They"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "hight tail it out of there. She gets I"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "don't know how far, 100 ft, 150 ft."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "She's like, \"Shit, we left Katya.\""}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "So she's like, \"You stay here,"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "Vulcaria.\" And she left her 14-year-old"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "sister there. And she ran back. And"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "Katya had just locked eyes with this"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "being like"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "for a prolonged period."}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "She grabs Katya, yanks her out of there."}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "And Katya to this day, I was just with"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "her a couple days ago. Katya is like, I"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "was going to help it because it was"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "saying to me, either help me or leave me"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "be. Like, don't hurt me. Help me or"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "leave me be. She's like, I wanted to"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "help it. And she's like, and I didn't."}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "And I ran away from it. And then it got"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "captured and I feel so bad. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "what happened to it. She really said"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "that. She's like, I think about it all"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "the time. So anyway, um the girl's"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "hightailing out of there and about 5"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "5:30,"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "uh two military police officers, one by"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "the name of Eric Lopes, people pronounce"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "his name differently. Lis Lopes L O P E"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "S. They're on patrol for something"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "unusual."}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "I don't think they said an ET is roaming"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "around, but it was some definitely some"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "kind of strange creature, some whatever."}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "just on the patrol and his friend and"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "fellow police officer, military police"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "officer, Marco Shares, was off that"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "night, but he called him up and he said,"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "\"Hey, I got this crazy like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "assignment man. I'm supposed to be"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "looking, you know, oh, you want to come"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "with me? Sure.\" Gets in the car and"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "three blocks, two or three blocks away"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "from where the girls had seen it, couple"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "hours later, that creature goes right"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "across the road in front of him,"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "screeches the brakes. Marco Shares"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "without a moment's hesitation leaps out"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "the back of the car and he grabs it with"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "his bare hands and puts it in the car"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "and they take it to they take it to Bon"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "Bon part I just learned that the exact"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "hotel I'm sorry I can't remember the"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "name of the hospital the first one"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "apparently some person came out some"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "doctor came out and took a look at the"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "creature was like get that thing out of"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "here I don't know what that thing is and"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "so they go to regional hospital yes they"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "drop it off at regional hospital and"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "then"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:22", "text": ">> Marco now there's speculation because"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "the autopsy report Marco got like"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "scratch under his arm. They weren't sure"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "if it was a previous existing abscess"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "and that maybe the bacteria that killed"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "him from the creature came from his nail"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "or came from the whatever open cut or"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "that he got scratched by the nail of the"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "in the process of it wasn't aggressive."}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "It didn't put up hardly any bit of a"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:43", "text": "fight, but he got this infection. He was"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "hospitalized within a week or two and he"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "was dead within a little 3 weeks"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "something like that."}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "Um, and we've interviewed his sister. We"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "interviewed just recently in the new cut"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "of Moment of Contact, New Revelations of"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "Alien Encounters. It's the first time"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "I've ever really put that kind of"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:04", "text": "blatant thing in a title, but but it"}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "really is alien in the sense that, you"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "know, we've got now this neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "describing facetoface contact all the"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "girls with a creature that was alien to"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "them and alien to everything they'd ever"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "seen. But we have the two forensic"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "pathologists, one that did the autopsy"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:21", "text": "and then the other one, Dr. Janini who's"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "owned the company IP IPD labs that did"}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "the analysis on the tissue samples and"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "he's like he's like it's a rare bacteria"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "on earth but this had evolved in a way"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "that that was super resilient to any"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "kind of back um antibiotics or any kind"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "of treatment. He goes, \"I've never seen"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "it behave in that fashion anywhere on"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "Earth and I've done over 50,000"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "autopsies my business that bacteria.\""}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "And he says it on the record like, you"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "know, and then he gives a statement"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "which you can provide your your audience"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "with. Um, so that's pretty"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "unprecedented, you know. And then,"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "um, well, I don't know if you want to go"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "into we got the capture and then and"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "then now for the first time um because"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "we didn't really know what had happened"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "to the creature that was dropped off and"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "there were multiple cap at least two and"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "now we're thinking there's possibly more"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "because more reports coming in, more"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "details. We got the chief of police, uh,"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "Pedro Aguiar who got his testimony for"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "the first time ever. He and he died just"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "months later. Thank God we got that"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:25", "text": ">> and we're working with his family."}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:26", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:27", "text": ">> and he he didn't testify in the first"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "cut, did he?"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:32", "text": ">> Oh, no, no, no, no, no. He kept he was"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "like a bar soap in the bathtub. Right."}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "He was like, cuz we had heard that we"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "had heard that he had a photograph"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:39", "text": ">> and that's why we were going after him"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "cuz I was going after honestly mate like"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "I was going after I had enough in my"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "opinion there was enough credible"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "firsthand eyewitness testimony in the"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "first cut for me to go all right now the"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "only thing missing is that photograph or"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "that video piece. So that's what I was"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "that's what I I had a laser like I still"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "do. But that led us to a bunch of"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "people, a whole bunch of people. Some of"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "which I still need to remain nameless"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "because it's ongoing and I don't want,"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "you know, the military to get there"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "before I do. So, I'm having to be kind"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "of somewhat secretive. But I can assure"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "your audience there's no one on the"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "planet that wants that more than I do."}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "Trust me. And if I sat there and"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "explained to you the the the the lengths"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "that I'm going to, that our team is"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "going to, Eleni Cross, by the way, is a"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "new producer on the new cut. I throw a"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "shout out to her cuz she's amazing. Um,"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "I'm working with someone who's actually"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "completely bilingual now. With Marco, I"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "love him to death, but his his English"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "is not, you know, so it's really"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "frustrating, but now I'm getting crystal"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "clear communication with all the people."}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "It's like, oh my gosh, this is amazing."}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "Um, but we we were we were led to him to"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "the chief of police by photographic"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "evidence and then, as it turns out, we"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "find out that he too participated in the"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "event and saw the creature. So like more"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "and more static comes out and we're now"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "starting to think that the creature that"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "Dr. Echelo, the neurosurgeon at regional"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "hospital saw was the first capture"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "because he saw it during the morning of"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "the 20th and there was the capture by"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "the um two there was um fire department"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "and when you're in the fire department"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "or the police department you're with the"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "military. It's all connected to the"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "military. And so we now have details uh"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "of um the chief of police, Pedro Aguar,"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "both from three of his children, his"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "wife and his lawyer, all on camera for"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "the first time. And um and now we have"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "vivid details of what he saw that first"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "capture. And we think that that possibly"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "is the one that that the what what the"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "girl saw was not the same creature what"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "neurosurgeon Ethlo saw because I was"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "like, \"Well, wait a minute. when were"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "you at the hospital? He was like, I saw"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "that thing in the late morning. Well,"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "that capture happened in the morning and"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "that was also alive. So, now we're"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:47", "text": ">> They're both alive, right?"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:49", "text": ">> They're both alive. Yeah. Yeah, they're"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "both alive. So, now we're thinking, but"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "there's also reports of of a dead one."}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "We got the guy at Regional Hospital that"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "did the X-rays that wanted to be"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "anonymous. Marco went after him for"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "five, six years when he was still"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "working at the hospital."}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:05", "text": ">> No, no, no. It was just No, no."}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "Confirmed. Yeah. Yeah. I I participate."}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "I took X-rays of it. It was in a bag,"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "blah blah blah."}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:11", "text": ">> But we finally got him to go on the"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "record. Thank God. And he's vanished"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "ever since then. And then we got"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "military act. So we knew."}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:17", "text": ">> Didn't they steal his or grab or Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "They took all of it."}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:20", "text": ">> All of it. He's the first time in"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "history. And they were like, \"Thank you"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "very much. Shut your pie hole.\""}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:26", "text": ">> Yeah. So, uh, but anyway, sorry I'm"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "rambling cuz there's so many little bits"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "details that I'm learning. But I'm"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "thinking now that we have"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:33", "text": ">> that first morning capture on the 20th"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "that took place with the firemen. Now we"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "have vivid details of that for the first"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "time as of three days ago that that's"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "probably the ET that Italo saw. Now were"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "they different um races or species"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "slightly different variations of they"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "all have the big teardropshaped head or"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "are they like chameleons? Can they"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "change when they're suffering? Do they"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "smell when they're scared and suffering"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "in the hot heat? Maybe they excrete. I I"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "really don't know. It's all speculation,"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:59", "text": ">> Can you describe like what what the"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "creatures look like? Cuz these were"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "typical grays."}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:05", "text": ">> Mm- Yeah. So, uh, what the girls came"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "within a few steps of in broad daylight,"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "all three of them, uh, was a, um, about"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "3 and 1/2 ft tall, uh, creature, spindly"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "arms, spindly legs. Some people say like"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:18", "text": "it had like toes like this with another"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "one that maybe came out the side for"}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "stability, but maybe in unless they're"}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "walking. Um, and it had a big teardrop"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "shaped red eyes, big head, tiny mouth,"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "slit for a nose. Um, no no no no no real"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "ears to speak of. And and the girls"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "described it as like an organ, like"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "almost like a heart, like the skin was"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "like a heart, like oily, excuse me, like"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "that, but like no hair."}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:47", "text": ">> The oiliness is the strangest detail to"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "me."}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I wonder like they all said"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "it was suffering in the hot. It was a"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "really hot day in the in the summer, all"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "sunshine. It was suffering, cowering,"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "frayed. Did it exude that? Did it change"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "color? I don't know."}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:04", "text": ">> One one of your witnesses was made a"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "really interesting statement about that"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "that I hadn't considered that maybe"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:09", "text": ">> he said it looked like latex or silicon."}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:14", "text": ">> So maybe it was a a suit of some kind."}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "No, it definitely was a scam because I"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "cuz we interviewed military acts who"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "who' seen it in the in the hospital."}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "That one was dead and that was at"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "Humanitas Hospital. There are other um"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "we have names of other doctors at"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "Humanitas that are aware of of of it and"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "are not according to my context. I'm"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "really in with the medical community"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "now. I'm like I mean we just I just flew"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "them to to DC. I mean we're like family"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "now. We go to the local restaurants. We"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "hang out with all these, you know, top"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "neurologists and forensic pathologists"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "and and uh so and they know what's going"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "on, believe me. And I'm knocking on"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "their doors and"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:59", "text": ">> and uh I think it's"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:25:02", "text": ">> I think u they're seeing that Dr. Elo,"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "who by the way has everything to lose"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "and nothing to gain. And if he's lying"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": ">> and he was in the room with this thing"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> face to face contact for 3 or 4 minutes"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:14", "text": "with a live being of nonhuman"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "intelligence communication through the"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "eyes limited but he said that despite"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "being in captivity it had control of the"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "room. His testimony is it's so riveting"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "he said that he you know I was like all"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "right well let's just say he wasn't"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "ready to fully the fact that he admitted"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "seeing the video a year or so earlier"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "was incredible. He wasn't ready to come"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "out. I mean the implications of a"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "neurosurgeon who runs the department at"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "this at this are significant for a"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "number of reasons"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:47", "text": ">> and Virginia is a military town."}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:49", "text": ">> Yeah. And his like okay you just have to"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "look for a motive right?"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "He's not selling a book. He's not"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "selling a dock. He's not selling his"}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "story. He would have to be lying because"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "I'm friends with all of them now. His"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "wife. He'd have to be lying to his wife."}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "He has to be lying to his kids,"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "both his daughter and his son who just"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "became a father a couple days ago. his"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "co-workers, his colleagues of 45 years"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "in the medical community, cardiologists,"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "neurosurgeons, forensic pathologists,"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:23", "text": "lying to all of them. In fact, I have a"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "video that I'd like to show for you cuz"}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "I brought the doctors together just a"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "few weeks ago. First time the known"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "doctors, the ones known involved with"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "the case, um Dr. Cesario, who worked on"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "the military police officer, Marco Shu,"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "before he died, he's like, \"I threw the"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "kitchen sink in a man. never seen"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "bacteria not respond to any of the"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "antibiotics we gave him. It's like it"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "just doesn't happen. I"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:47", "text": ">> I confirmed it independently. They shut"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "down that hospital for a couple days."}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:51", "text": ">> That was another that was Yeah, that was"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "that's where they did the X-rays. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "But so we got Dr. Cesario. We got Dr."}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "Italo, the neurosurgeon. Dr. Cesario, I"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "think, is a cardiologist. Dr. um Dr."}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "Janini, who founded IPD labs, who"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "studied the tissue samples, who said"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "that he's never seen a variant of this"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "bacteria in his life. If you give a"}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:11", "text": "statement on that, you can feature that."}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "Then the guy that did the autopsy of the"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "deceased male brought them all together"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "for the first time. How long have you"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "known to love? How long have you known?"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "Just like 35 years, 45 years. This is"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "do you believe him? And they're all just"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "like, yeah, why? Where's the motive?"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "He's not asking for a dime. He's lying"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "to the whole community. He's still doing"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "brain surgery at the hospital. all of"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "his staff, his wife, his daughter, his"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "son, his co-workers, his colleagues, not"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "asking for a dime, not selling anything."}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": ">> The most compelling,"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:48", "text": ">> what's his motive? And if it's true, and"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "I'm pretty damn convinced it is, cuz it"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "lines up with everything. If it's true,"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "it's the most significant development in"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "the history of the phenomenon. We've"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "never had it before where we've had"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "face-to-face contact with a captured"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "alien. No testimony, particularly of his"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "stature. It doesn't exist. You don't."}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:09", "text": "It's like people that poo poo this case."}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "It's like if you look into it, there's"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "never been this much firsthand"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "eyewitness testimony in the history of"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "any UFO crash cases ever before."}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:20", "text": ">> Didn't Dr. hear it in his mind? Didn't"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "it communicate? He had he said he said"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "there's a lot to learn from the eyes of"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "that being that it had the most"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "tranquil, peaceful, compassionate,"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "non-judgmental stare that he's ever seen"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "from anything. And then he kept"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "describing it as a higher level of"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "intelligence. He also revealed some"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "details because I really went through it"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "before we did this event at the National"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:44", "text": "Press Club um which you guys can watch"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "on uh I think it's NewsNation covered it"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:49", "text": "live. It's out there for free. you can"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "just watch it on YouTube, whatever. Um,"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "but I really hammered him hard on cuz I"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "wanted to get every possible detail I"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "could in the short period of time at the"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "National Press Club."}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:01", "text": ">> And he was like, \"Yeah, the bean my"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "first time I looked at it cuz he was"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "like, he goes, well, first of all, my"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "partner Marcos Vinesis did a little"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "procedure. I think it was like a suture,"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:12", "text": "whatever, a little stitch or something.\""}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "And he goes, \"I was in there for an"}, {"start": "01:29:12", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "unrelated issue in the hospital.\" And my"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:19", "text": "partner, Marcos Venice's, fellow"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "neurosurgeon, grabbed me. And normally,"}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "he goes, \"Normally, when he grabs me in"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "the hallway, it's like, \"Someone's"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "dying. I need your help immediately.\" He"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "goes, \"It was urgent.\" Grabs him and"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "takes him into the ICU. And there was a"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:33", "text": "makeshift ICU with like a like a"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "makeshift curtain kind of thing. And"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "then before that, he's got a video that"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "he's showing him on this screen"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "of some procedure he just did. And he's"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "like, \"What the hell am I looking at?"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "What is that? And he described maybe"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "children get this really rare thing"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "where their heads can really swell up"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "and weird deform deformities, whatever."}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "He's looking at he goes, \"Yeah, man. It"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "doesn't look like it's from her. What"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "the hell is that?\" And the doctor,"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "Marcos Vines, goes, \"It's right there.\""}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "So he draws the curtain or goes around"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "the other side and he goes, I said, \"How"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "long was it before you knew it wasn't of"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "this earth non-human?\" He goes, \"The"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "second I looked at it, I was like, \"Holy"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "shit.\" Like, and he looked at it and he"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "goes, \"My medical profession was"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "initially like, okay, I look at a"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "patient. Is it in distress? Is it"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "breathing? Is it, you know, and he did a"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "quick evaluation"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "and he was like determined that like it"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "was it was okay, it was stable,"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "whatever.\" is looking at it and then the"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "creature"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "looks out the window and it was a blue"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "sky"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "and looked out the window like longingly"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "like it wanted to be out there and then"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "it looked back him in the eyes and"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "that's when he said he got"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "the real communication that happened."}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "What he was no longer looking at as a"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "patient, he was looking at it as as an"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "entity as a high higher level advanced"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "intelligence entity. And he said it just"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "had like like it was looking at him as"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "though he was a child. Do you know what"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "I mean? And here we got a neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "who's like running the whole department,"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "operates on people's brains, plays piano"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "like Mozart, and he goes, \"It was"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "looking to me almost like a child, not"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "condescendingly, but like it was so"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "advanced, so much hired like an angel.\""}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "So he described it as an angel."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> He did. And um and I just say to people"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "out there, it's like, you know, you have"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "to look. First of all, we tracked him"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "down and we we wore him down and then he"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "had a heart attack and he was living"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "lying in the ICU staring at the ceiling"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "after we had already confronted him on"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "the video cuz that's what I was I was"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "after the video. And he um he's like,"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "\"If I if I come through this, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "not cuz Marcos Venice died of a heart"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "attack in 2018.\" He goes, \"I'm not going"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "to let the story to the grave. The"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "younger generation needs to know this"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "happened and I'm a firsthand witness."}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "And so we went back at we went back as I"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "do in January of 2020. Was that 2025 or"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "January 2025? Was that a year ago? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:07", "text": "We went back and that's when we we"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "interviewed the two forensic"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "pathologists and we've been trying to"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "get a hold of Italo cuz we knew like the"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "video, you know, didn't know that he had"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "a heart attack. Didn't know that he had"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "like prostate cancer and surgery and all"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "this other stuff. And um and we got the"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "other and he would respond and then he"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "would disappear and it was like you know"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "I jokingly said it was like grabbing a"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "bar of soap in the bathtub because he"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "was like poo poo poo you know like ah he"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "was just there and then Dr. Armando"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "credit to you mate who who did the"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "autopsy on the deceased military officer"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "and provided the tissue samples to Dr."}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "Janini. He's like I was like yeah you"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "know and while we're here we really want"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "to talk to Dr. eat and he keeps like"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "kind of responding then disappearing"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "like he wants to or he seems conflicted"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:53", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "and then he was oh yeah and right there"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "in the middle of the interview just"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "walking and you know talking and he's"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "like tomorrow morning go to the hospital"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "and he wants to meet you on the backside"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "10:00 time it was backside of the"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "hospital okay what's he going to you"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "know we were like got all the"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "camera crew ready and that's when he"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "stuck us through maternity ward down the"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "corridors through the hospital. All"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "cameras rolling. Put on some gear. I'm"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "like, \"What's happening? Why am I"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "putting this gear on? Takes us into the"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "ICU.\" That's where it happened."}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:26", "text": ">> In that room."}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:26", "text": ">> In that room."}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:28", "text": ">> Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:30", "text": ">> All on film. We captured it as it"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "happened. And I honestly I don't even"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "think he was prepared to go full monty"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "until like that the morning of. And like"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:41", "text": "our partner Alini uh production partner,"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "she's been amazing. and she's got a"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "really So does Marco, but she has a"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "really um uh a wonderful non-threatening"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "presence about her. You just look her in"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "the eyes and you just go, \"Okay, I'm in"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "I'm in good hands here.\" You know, and I"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "know that he grabbed her hand and he and"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "she was looking at me like, \"Okay, I'm"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "just, you know, here I go.\" Took us"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:05", "text": "through various corridors. Then all of a"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "sudden, I'm putting on medical, you"}, {"start": "01:34:05", "end": "01:34:09", "text": "know, mask and what am I doing? Like I"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "don't Everything's happening so quickly."}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "We were all just takes us into the ICU"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:15", "text": "and it was like this is where the video."}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "No, this is where the creature I saw."}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "Huh? I was like, it all came out and"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "then the staff of the managers and"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "everything came and started screaming at"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "him and he was like, \"Fuck, I think I"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "might have just lost my job.\" And it was"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, I'm just trying to"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "process what just happened. Holy"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "We have a neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "who just confessed"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "that he had direct contact with one of"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "the beings in captivity for 3 or 4"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "minutes in that bed right there. Do you"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "know what I mean?"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:47", "text": ">> Yep. I don't think he was prepared for"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "how emotional he was going to get."}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:51", "text": ">> So then we get kicked out like he's like"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "I think I might have just lost my job."}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "We get we go out and we're like well"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "let's carry on this conversation. Where"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "are we going to go? We walk out and"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "we're on the sidewalk now. How about"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "this cafe? Boom. Walk into a cafe. and"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "we take over the cafe. We all set up"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "setup shop and I was trying to get more"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "out of him and and I was like I'm just"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "trying to process. We all were at one"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "point I think it was David. No, I don't"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "know who maybe it was me. Grabbed a"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "camera. I think I I did I actually"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "grabbed the camera from Dave West my DP"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "and I just panned it across cuz I was"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "like I need to see everybody's faces"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "right now cuz this is incredible. And"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "you look look carefully even the sound"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "guy who was somewhat skeptical when he"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "started on this journey with us and now"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "he's like holy"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:33", "text": ">> Mhm. And uh and you see Marco like wipe"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "his forehead. We're all processing. And"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "and then I said to him, \"What does it"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "feel like after 29 years to come to talk"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "about this?\""}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "And he was like, \"I I feel like I want"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "to cry.\" And he started to cry. And then"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "the camera turned on me"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "and I was trying to talk,"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "but the words weren't coming out. And I"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "really didn't want to like I I like I"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "didn't want to cry cuz I you know what I"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "like you want to keep it together and"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "stay composed and but I couldn't talk."}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "Like I was like"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "I wouldn't be doing this for all these"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "years. All the laughter, all the"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "ridicule, all the hecklers if I didn't"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "really believe this. Like life is too"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "short."}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:20", "text": ">> You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:23", "text": ">> It was the most part my sister died."}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "Like life's too short for"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:26", "text": ">> And I'm not saying like you have to"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "believe this case. Don't don't believe"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "it. Check it out. Listen to the"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "testimony. If it's true,"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "and I'm putting my career on the line"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "here, but if it's true, this is the"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "case. It's going to prove it once and"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "for all."}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:41", "text": ">> Remember Carlos's reaction when you took"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "him to the scene? How emotional he got."}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:43", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:45", "text": ">> You can't fake that."}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:47", "text": ">> You don't need Leon Leonardo DiCaprio or"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "Brad Pitt anymore. It's like, no."}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:51", "text": ">> And then I get choked up. And then it's"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "like I've known this doctor. I mean, we"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "met on the phone. He jokingly calls me,"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "\"Oh my god.\" Because when he confessed"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "to seeing the video, he was I was like,"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "\"Oh my god.\" Where's the video?"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:00", "text": ">> Yeah. So, well, we could talk about that"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "in a minute."}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:06", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "uh, you know, he hugs me right there on"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "camera and he holds me like holding my"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "hands like really like we bonded right"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "there in that moment. Like, can you"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "imagine the weight off his shoulders"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "like and the risk like he's got"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "everything to lose. And again, I'll tell"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "your audience like this guy is not"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "selling anything. He hasn't asked for a"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "dime for his story. He's still doing"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "brain surgery. He's like, \"I'll take a"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "public lie detector test tomorrow with"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "my hand in a Bible. Whatever you want.\""}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "I saw this thing and the younger"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "generation need to know they're real."}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "That coffee shop conversation was the"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "light. Unbelievable."}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:43", "text": ">> How do you you know? So again, I"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "understand the skepticism and I know the"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "the the the need for videotape,"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "photographic evidence. There's nobody in"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "the world trying harder than I am. Okay?"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "I promise you that. And I can tell you"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "that the military is is following me,"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "following this case. No question about"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "it. We're just trying to get to the"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "people first. And I have a proton email,"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "which I'd actually like to provide to"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "you because I'm telling you any"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "witnesses because before people were"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "getting in touch with me on regular"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "email, and I'm thinking that's not a"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "good idea. I'm under surveillance. Like,"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "so we got a proton email now. And I'll"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "provide that to you. Maybe flash it on"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "the screen. people can reach out to me"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "because we're looking for folks on the"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "American side. We're looking for"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "videotaped evidence. We've announced a"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "very large reward for said evidence."}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "I've done it on huge podcasts all across"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "Brazil. We're doing more podcasts right"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "now, TV episodes. And we're stronger"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "together and courage is contagious. And"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "I've been saying that to people. We're"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "stronger together and courage is"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "contagious. And and believe me, there"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "are other doctors and there are people"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "that are watching very carefully what's"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:47", "text": "happening right now. Are there any"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "videos you want to show us? We have"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "about 15, maybe 20 before the next"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "break. Um,"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:54", "text": ">> okay. I think this is important. Sorry,"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "I'm wipe my nose here. Um, this this is"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "this is just a couple weeks ago. I"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "happened to be with Amomar from Yes"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "Theory. His team actually filmed this."}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "And um in Vin, Brazil, and we're at Dr."}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "Armando's house, who was the guy that"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "did the autopsy on the deceased military"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "officer. And it was the first time in"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "history we brought all the known doctors"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "together. And so I just wanted you to"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "share this little video and I'll play it"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "for you."}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:20", "text": ">> Question. I'd like to volume."}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:22", "text": ">> I'd like to ask Janini how long"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:22", "text": ">> Oh, it's okay. I don't need to hear it."}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:24", "text": ">> And I thought we had subtitles, boys."}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "No. Yeah, there we go."}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:29", "text": ">> It's all in English. Oh, yeah. Some of"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "it's not."}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:33", "text": ">> So, basically, hold"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "on."}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:40", "text": ">> And where did you shoot this one?"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:42", "text": ">> I shot this at house in Bar, Brazil just"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "a few weeks ago. That's Dr. Janini who"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "studied the tissue samples analysis"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "forensic pathologist. Guy to the right"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "is Dr. did the autopsy. And then Dr. Eo"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "right there grabbing his arm. He um he"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "had face to face contact with a living"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "entity at Regional Hospital on January"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "20th, 1996."}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:04", "text": ">> And I'm asking these guys, how long you"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "known him? Do you guys believe him?"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:07", "text": ">> And everyone's like, I've known him 45"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "years. I've known him 35 years. He's"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "still doing brain surgery. like,"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:12", "text": ">> you know, I just think it's important"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "that they've got their wives there. All"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "their wives are there. Their children"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "are there. Like"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:20", "text": ">> this is like real. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "Like these guys"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "I I just can't imagine why"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "how he would benefit from I I just I'm"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "at a loss."}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Right there. Yeah. So that's and"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "anyway, I don't have to go through all"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "of these, but I want you to um if you if"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "you're seeing this or not, but we don't"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "need to watch this, but"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:43", "text": ">> whatever you play, we'll see."}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:45", "text": ">> Yeah. So this is I'll just describe"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "this. This is uh I took video statements"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "from um firsthand witnesses, children,"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "wives. That's one of the sons of a"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "firsthand witness that was in military"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "police. This is his daughter. This is"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "his wife. all saying, \"Yeah, my husband"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "was a firsthand witness. He saw the"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "creature.\" And it's important because he"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "said he was a firsthand witness. His"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "name is Pedro Aguiar. He was the former"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "chief of police and he's the one that"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "participated in our film and then died."}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:19", "text": ">> Now, he told us on film that he was the"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "first to he did see the creature. He did"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "participate in the event, but he didn't"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "go into any specifics. But it's one"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "thing to like, you know, go on camera"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "and say that, but then when he tells his"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "wife and he tells his children, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "man. This happened. This is real. I"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "participated.\" And then we talk to his"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "lawyer, it just changes everything. And"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:41", "text": "this is the actual site."}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "So on the other side, I'll I might"}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "actually play this kind of fun. So you"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "know, um the uh cinder block wall where"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "the girls came within 8 to 10 feet of"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "that creature in broad daylight. Y"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:57", "text": ">> so on the other side of that wall just"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "like that far away is a mechanic shop."}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "So we went over to the mechanic shop and"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "we actually got one of the one of the"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "witnesses who was on the other side of"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "the wall while the ET was there and he"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "talked about like he got there right"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "after the girls had seen it and saw the"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "imprint where it was. He smelled the"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "smell like the sulfur. Everyone"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:17", "text": ">> I smelled it. He smelled it. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:18", "text": ">> There he is right there in the blue"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "shirt."}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:22", "text": ">> Exact location saw the creature. And"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "this guy's a mechanic."}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:25", "text": ">> That's a cinder block wall. And right on"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "the other side of that wall was the"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "mechanic shop. He was there that day."}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "Isn't that crazy? Unbelievable."}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "And he's like, \"Oh yeah, I walked right"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "over here. I saw the thing on the"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "ground. I smelled it. I I missed it.\" So"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "he was working on a car when the girls"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "were looking at an ET like right there,"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "you know? It's so crazy, you know."}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "Anyway, there's a bunch of other"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "statements that So, we"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "I had uh Lilani Valkyia and um Katya"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "applied for visas. We had military acts"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "who drove the creature, all of his"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "military records, all of his photographs"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "of the truck that he was in in the"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "operation"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "driving the creature. We had Marta, the"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "sister of the deceased military officer."}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "We had um"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:16", "text": ">> What about Marco's wife, the the officer"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "who died? It was Marco, right?"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I'll get to that one second."}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "We we we we um I hired an immigration"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "lawyer. They were going to come. The"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "military guy who drove the bloody"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "creature was going to come. And he goes,"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "\"Look, I'll meet with members of"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "Congress behind the scenes, full"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "identity, show them who I am. I drove"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "the creature, blah blah blah, but and"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "I'll also go up to the podium, but I'm"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "going to go up there with a mask.\" And I"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:41", "text": "was like, \"That's Yeah, great.\" And I've"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "told the audience before I was able to"}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "track down who that guy was. He's a"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "legitimate person. He's legitimate."}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:48", "text": ">> I've seen all the photographs. He's I I"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:50", "text": "actually got a statement from him with"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:52", "text": "showing me all the photographs. I'll"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "probably be releasing that soon for"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "free. Um so people can see, but I'll"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "have to blur certain things out and"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "change his voice. Um"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "but all their visas unfortunately got"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "denied. There's like six as we go"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "through all the different names. But"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "yeah, devastating. And I even had"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "Congressman Burles's office working on"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "getting their approval. Uh, one was"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "approved, Katya was approved on the on"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "the spot. They all went together. Um,"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:21", "text": "uh, Lily, let's see, Liliani was denied,"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "Marco was denied. Uh, and then there"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "was, uh, Military X, Marta, and Katya."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "They were under additional review. So,"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "it was like three under two denied,"}, {"start": "01:44:31", "end": "01:44:35", "text": "three under additional review, and then"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "one approved. So that was a pretty good"}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "ratio. So"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:40", "text": ">> yeah, but denied on what grounds?"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:42", "text": ">> Uh, who knows, man. They don't really"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "get say anything. Just like, uh, ask a"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "couple questions. No. So anyway, but"}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "then we get Congress in involved,"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "immigration lawyer, and we're going back"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "and forth."}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "And then after they kept waiting, too."}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "Like I was like, could you guys where"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "are you guys? Like I'm doing this event."}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "You know, I'm doing this event. Like"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "could you know? And then long story"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "short, they waited, waited, waited,"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "waited, waited, waited till the last"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "possible like towards the end of"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "December. In fact, I got back I got back"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "on Christmas day. My son's like, \"What"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "do you get me for Christmas?\" I said,"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "\"Me.\" And I Yeah. And um and uh so"}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "God, maybe the 20th, 15th, I don't know,"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "of December. Even the one that was"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:27", "text": "approved, all done. So, uh we flew back"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "to Brazil and I did statements and those"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "are some of the statements. If you want,"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "I provided them to you. You guys can"}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "show the various statements inside a"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "podium. The city of Virginia with help"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "of the mayor gave us this official space"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:41", "text": "with the Brazilian flags. It's a great"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "backdrop. And we did, you know, short"}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "90-cond statements from the various"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "people that had their visas denied and"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "other people as well that did. And"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "anyway, you should play some of those"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "for your audience."}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:52", "text": ">> We'll put those in. We'll put in the"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "autopsy photos. But I want to know about"}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "Eric Lope Lope. Did you ever get a hold"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "of him? cuz his scene in the first first"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "was unbel"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "to shoot you guys if you didn't leave"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "the property."}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:05", "text": ">> Well, I got a new development just a"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "couple days ago. Uh there was another"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:09", "text": "security guy that met with him and he"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "said that he was he was like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:46:09", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "I wasn't I don't think I would have shot"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "James, but I was I was seconds away from"}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "taking my gun out and fire pop cuz he he"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "did have a gun as we suspected he did,"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "but he was going to shoot a couple in"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "the sky first."}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:27", "text": ">> That's what he that's what he said. But"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "we did get a hold of his his wife. Now"}, {"start": "01:46:27", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "his wife"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "funny story. His wife is the sister of"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "Marco Sharice, the deceased military"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "officer."}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:38", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:40", "text": ">> Marta."}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:44", "text": ">> No. Oh, Marta is the Sorry. Yeah. Marta"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "is Marco. Yeah. So, sorry."}, {"start": "01:46:44", "end": "01:46:47", "text": ">> Uh, Marco Shereice, who handled the"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "creature and died,"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:50", "text": ">> had two sisters."}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:53", "text": ">> Okay. Marta and his other sister, I'm"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "sorry I don't remember her name, but she"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "married Eric Lopes after his death"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "because they were they were really good"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "friends and they'd known each other,"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "right? And so I contacted her through"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "Marta. Somehow I got her number. We went"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "through either Marco or somebody else."}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "What is it going to take to get and this"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "is after he threatened to shoot us. What"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:15", "text": "is it going to take to get your husband"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "to come forward? She said, \"Bring my"}, {"start": "01:47:15", "end": "01:47:17", "text": "brother back to life.\""}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:18", "text": ">> Ah,"}, {"start": "01:47:17", "end": "01:47:20", "text": ">> and he'll come forward. Yeah, but we're"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "still working on them. We're still"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "working on them. Other people were"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "working on them. Uh the mayor sent a a"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:29", "text": "police officer around to his house a"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "week ago. A police officer liked to talk"}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "to him and he didn't want to talk, but"}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "he he might he might he might talk. He"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "might at some point talk if he sees what"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "Dr. Italo did. He might"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:44", "text": ">> he he might he might. It's getting more"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "attention now than ever before. And um"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "yeah um again I just say that this is"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "you know this we've had this debate for"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "decades crash retrieval Roswell all this"}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "stuff all the congressional hearings all"}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:59", "text": "the allegations from top you know"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:01", "text": "aerospace engineers physicists that we"}, {"start": "01:47:59", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "have a crash retrieval leg a legacy"}, {"start": "01:48:01", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "crash retrieval program um and this case"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "could could really settle the debate"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "once and for all."}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:11", "text": ">> It really could. Um we'll take another"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:12", "text": "quick break. When we come back, we'll"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:14", "text": "talk about whatever you want, but I"}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "would like to get into how suddenly the"}, {"start": "01:48:14", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "United States Air Force shows up on this"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:18", "text": "case."}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, for sure."}, {"start": "01:48:18", "end": "01:48:22", "text": ">> All right, we'll be right back."}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:23", "text": ">> Back with James Fox."}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:25", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:26", "text": ">> that's a nice ring, too."}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:29", "text": ">> That is it."}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "a big turning point for me in um moment"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "of contact cuz I was riveted and then we"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "get to I don't know about twothirds"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "through and suddenly you're interviewing"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "someone who was a"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:43", "text": "aircraft controller."}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:48:43", "end": "01:48:47", "text": ">> And now the US Air Force enters the"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "picture."}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:52", "text": ">> So it seems like we've got Virginia"}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "Compasa"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "and USAF as they call it USAF."}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:48:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Did you see the uh the foyer"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:01", "text": "request that we did in 2022 and we got a"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "response in 2025 from the CIA?"}, {"start": "01:49:01", "end": "01:49:06", "text": ">> Yes. And the response was"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:08", "text": ">> yeah access we can neither confirm nor"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "deny due to the National Security Act of"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "1949."}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "Your request is denied."}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "It's like CIA what the hell was with CIA"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "said what?"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:23", "text": ">> Really weird."}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "Yes. So, I think it was 2021"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "when I was shooting for the whatever"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "time and that's when we finished uh"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "shooting for Moment of Contact, the"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "first version of it. Um, and it's been"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:42", "text": "going on for 16 almost 17 years. My god."}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "And uh the flight control officer"}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "uh Marcos Feres Fis Es"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "came forward on a podcast. He's like,"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "\"Yeah.\" and he's friends with this other"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "flight control officer. They were"}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "they're friends. And he said,"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "\"Yeah, this, you know, on or around the"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:02", "text": "20th of January, this USAF flight was"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "coming in.\" I was like, \"Usaf, United"}, {"start": "01:50:02", "end": "01:50:07", "text": "States Air Force, USAF,"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "excuse me.\" And um and he goes, \"It"}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "didn't have all planes coming in from"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "outside the country have to have"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "government, Brazilian government"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "authorization to land. This plane didn't"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "have that.\" And um he goes,"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "I have to deny a plane without this"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "authorization. A high level Brazilian"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "military official came in the room and"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:33", "text": "said, \"Let the plane land.\" And it"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "landed uh at an airport in um Campinus."}, {"start": "01:50:33", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "I have the name of the airport we talk"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "about in the movie, but um and"}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "either one helicopter or two helicopters"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:45", "text": "came out of it. It was probably a C17"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "according to all the Air Force people"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "that I've talked to. Uh it was a cargo"}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "plane."}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "helicopter went to Brazil, came back. It"}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "was two helicopters came to Israel"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "because it came back, loaded some stuff,"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "excuse me, loaded some stuff on the"}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "plane and bing bora is what he said."}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "Went back to uh America, undisclosed"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "location. So, we um filed a foyer for"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "all incoming flights from the US into"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "Campenis in January. I think I put like"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "maybe January 10th or something to the"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "end of the month. It was all January"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:22", "text": ">> like two weeks or something."}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:23", "text": ">> Yeah. For a two three week window window"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "cover up our base went like a week extra"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "on both sides."}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:29", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "honestly the response came so late I"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "forgot that we even sent the foyer and"}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "then in 2025 we get a response from the"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:39", "text": "CIA and that's when they you know"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "denied. So now we actually made this"}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "plea at the National Press Club last"}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "week. Was it last week? 10 days ago,"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:48", "text": "whatever. Um, a a United States Air"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "Force colonel,"}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "uh, spoke and retired."}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "Also, a fighter pilot had a really"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "dramatic encounter with UFO in 1980 over"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "Europe, Northern Europe. It's an"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "incredible story. But he uh he's like,"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "\"Look, let me just tell you the the\" and"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "he talked to members of Congress, too."}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "He's like, \"Let me just tell you if that"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:10", "text": "flight happened, and I suspect it did,"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "uh, there's going to be paper trails.\""}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "And he went through all the different"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "scenarios like the the you know the"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:18", "text": "flight you know the flight distance of"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "full tanks is 2500 miles. The distance"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "is 4,500 miles. Therefore it had to have"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:23", "text": "air support. That's going to be a paper"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "trail. When it landed had refuel."}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "There's a receipt who paid for the fuel."}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "That's got to have a I don't care if"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "it's a classified mission. It's got to"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "have a flight plan going back. There's"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "another paper trail. And goes through"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "all the various things. And we did that"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "primarily for members of Congress or"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "ourselves. It's like hey you don't have"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:43", "text": "to believe this case. you can find it"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "compelling enough to dig a little"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "deeper. So now we have members of"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "Congress that are willing to you part of"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:50", "text": "the task force. Hey, let's go find those"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:52", "text": "flight records. Let's see what we can"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "turn up. So now it's just like"}, {"start": "01:52:52", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "hopefully, you know, they're not they"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "probably are. Of course they are aware"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "of the fact that we're going after these"}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "records. So hopefully they're not like"}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "getting rid of them, you know."}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:04", "text": ">> So yeah."}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:05", "text": ">> Did you say you have tail numbers or any"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "identifying information on those?"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> We Yeah. So we the the um colonel uh"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "identified every single uh C17"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "in the fleet at that time and there were"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "I don't know there were a handful of"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:22", "text": "them from various bases and got every"}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "single tail number cuz we have"}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "photographs of what could have been one"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "of the flights because there was"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "somebody in 1996 but it wasn't at"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "Compenas. It landed somewhere else to"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "refuel and some Amazon some researcher"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "told me about it. So we want to see if"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "we can read that picture carefully"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "enough that we could make out a couple"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:40", "text": "of the numbers. So the Air Force colonel"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "has been finding all the tail numbers."}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "Now he's getting flight records for all"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "those tail. This is all happening right"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:49", "text": "now. So we're trying to find that"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:51", "text": "specific plane flight landing where it"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "landed cuz we could find out like where"}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "it landed. We could find out potentially"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "like who the crew were, how many people"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "are on board, where those people are"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "today, right? Yep. He estimates that 30"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "to 40 people at minimum Americans would"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "know about that flight, were involved"}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "with that flight directly or indirectly."}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "So that's where we're making a plea to"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "anybody on the American side because"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "wouldn't that be great?"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:15", "text": ">> Yeah. What do you think was loaded on"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "that plane?"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:18", "text": ">> The bodies."}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": ">> ET ET and uh"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:21", "text": ">> two bodies if the"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:23", "text": ">> I don't know how many bodies. I don't"}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "know how many bodies. I would say at"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "least two. At least two. uh and and"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:30", "text": "probably some of the debris, I would"}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "imagine, but I don't know"}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:34", "text": ">> what gives United States military"}, {"start": "01:54:33", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "jurisdiction over that."}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:38", "text": ">> You know, a reporter asked a question,"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "that very question a couple years ago to"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "an intelligence official. You know what"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "they said? Because we can"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:46", "text": ">> write a check or"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:47", "text": ">> or we're coming in or"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:47", "text": ">> we're going to get it."}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:48", "text": ">> We're coming in"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:50", "text": ">> the easy way, the hard way."}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:52", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, we just took out a"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:52", "text": "president in Venezuela."}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:53", "text": ">> True."}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:56", "text": ">> True."}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:58", "text": ">> So, we got a UFO crash. My understanding"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "is that the Americans were aware of"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "these this UFO coming in and alerted the"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "military officials in Brazil. And I've"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "heard that from a number of researchers."}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "In fact, I've even gotten close to"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "getting a name of who provided that. But"}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:11", "text": "anyway, I've heard that from a number of"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "pretty credible sources."}, {"start": "01:55:11", "end": "01:55:16", "text": ">> Yeah, I was able to track down some"}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "information about um"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "craft being seen in that area over that"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "time and then it kind of goes dark. M so"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "my suspicion is that uh that there were"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:29", "text": "some radar hits about those craft in"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "that area or or at least one of them and"}, {"start": "01:55:29", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "then someone got involved and said"}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:35", "text": ">> stop tracking it. We got it. You guys"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "don't need to worry about it. That's my"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "suspicion."}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:42", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm optimistic. I mean, you know,"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:45", "text": "only takes one courageous American to"}, {"start": "01:55:42", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "come forward, you know, and reveal that."}, {"start": "01:55:45", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "We get the flight numbers."}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "Maybe they don't come forward publicly."}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:52", "text": "Maybe they come forward in a skiff with"}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "me certain members of Congress, part of"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "the UAP task force. There are a handful"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "of Congress people that I that I"}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:55:59", "text": "actually trust that I think really do"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "want to get this information out to the"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "public that are really seriously and and"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "and authentically interested in um"}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:09", "text": "knowing more and being more transparent"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "because they feel like everybody has a"}, {"start": "01:56:09", "end": "01:56:13", "text": "right to know about this stuff. And so"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "I'm optimistic on that front. And you"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:18", "text": "know, like I said, like we had meetings"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "and and Leslie Kane's article that"}, {"start": "01:56:18", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "people should look up, Leslie Kaine and"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "and Ralph Blumenthal in the debrief"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:26", "text": "gives a very detailed account of our"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "meetings, our closed dooror meetings on"}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "on the hill with firsthand witnesses on"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "the case and our plea to them like, hey,"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "you don't have to believe these guys."}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "They found their testimony very"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "compelling and they were very very"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:39", "text": "interested in what the doctor had to"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "say, I can assure you. And um really"}, {"start": "01:56:39", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "asking very detailed questions to him."}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "When is it you have a neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "describing face-to-f face contact with a"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "live entity from non-human intelligence?"}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "Right. Y"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:53", "text": ">> never before in history. So, uh there"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "seemed to be a genuine concern, a"}, {"start": "01:56:53", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "genuine uh willingness to to uh do some"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "digging behind the scenes and then and"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "then Congressman Burlesen attended the"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "the conference and spoke as did a"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "senator from Brazil. So, um you know,"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "this could be the beginning of the"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "beginning."}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:11", "text": ">> It could be"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:13", "text": ">> could be the beginning of the beginning."}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "What is it about Brazil? Because we have"}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "compelling cases going back to at least"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "the 70s like the Claris case."}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:18", "text": ">> 50s"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:19", "text": ">> to the 50s."}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:20", "text": ">> Uba tuba."}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:22", "text": ">> Uba. That's right."}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:23", "text": ">> Yep. There's actually metal material."}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:25", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:28", "text": ">> High level high 100% magnesium. I can't"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "remember what the but it's very unusual"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "and it would be it would the I'm told"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "I'm not a metal metallergist but I'm"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "told by like I think it was Gary Nolan"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "and Jacqu Valet who've studied the metal"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "samples isotope isotope"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "they looked down into the the"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:44", "text": "microscopic level."}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:48", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:57:44", "end": "01:57:50", "text": ">> Um that it would be extremely"}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "expensive to replicate what they found"}, {"start": "01:57:50", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "in that beach in 1957. And it was"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "reported something exploded and it"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "rained down all this debris on a beach"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "in Ubatuba. That was 1957."}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:02", "text": ">> That's right. It was it was witnessed by"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "by a fisherman actually rained onto his"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "boat and killed his dog."}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:06", "text": ">> Oh, really? I didn't hear that part."}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:09", "text": ">> Yeah. That uh some of that metal was"}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "tested and they found using an electron"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "microscope that it was arranged in a"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "lattice that could serve as a as a wave"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:18", "text": "guide for electromagnetic spectrum in"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "the terraertz range,"}, {"start": "01:58:18", "end": "01:58:22", "text": ">> which is something that we couldn't we"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:23", "text": "couldn't do that in the '50s. I just"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "remember Gary Nolan telling me that it"}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "would cost so much money to replicate"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "even today."}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:29", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:31", "text": ">> So that was impressive. But then you"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "have uh Colaris in the 70s. Very"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "fascinating case. First case I've ever"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:36", "text": "heard of where there seemed to be some"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "level of hostility."}, {"start": "01:58:36", "end": "01:58:39", "text": ">> That's right. Do Well, tell us about the"}, {"start": "01:58:38", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "case. Tell us what you know."}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:43", "text": ">> Well, what I know is I I haven't done a"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "deep dive into this case. Jacqu Filet"}, {"start": "01:58:43", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "has. I think Jacqu Vallet has probably"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "written a book about it. Um there were"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "this was this went on for a while. It"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:53", "text": "might have been the whole year of 1977."}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "It might have been longer,"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:59:01", "text": ">> but there were um UFOs scene. Uh there"}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:03", "text": "were beams coming down from some of the"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "UFOs attacking some of the people in the"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "village, burning their skin, or maybe"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:09", "text": "they were taking skin samples or blood"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "samples. I don't know. That's what was"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "reported. There's other uh testimony."}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:16", "text": "the Americans got involved and they came"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:18", "text": "and then there was film footage of an"}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "object the size of a football field"}, {"start": "01:59:18", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "shape of a triangle coming out of the"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "Amazon. Um that footage apparently"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "exists. There were a bunch of"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:27", "text": "photographs that I actually feature in"}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:29", "text": "the first cut of Moment of Contact."}, {"start": "01:59:27", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "Original photographs that were released"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "by the Brazilian Air Force."}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:34", "text": ">> Yep. Over a thousand photographs."}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:36", "text": ">> There was also uh Yeah, exactly. And all"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "kinds of documentation. All kinds of"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "stuff come out of that case."}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. If you guys want to look, if"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "you want to look this up, this is"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "operation prau, which means which means"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "saucer or plate."}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Yeah. Plat"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "operation plateau or something. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:54", "text": "It's a plate or whatever. A disc."}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:55", "text": ">> Um and uh and there was a military"}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "gentleman who actually feature his"}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "testimony in the first cut of moment of"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:02", "text": "contact. And uh he went on camera and he"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "had died under extremely mysterious"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "conditions. He apparently had a close"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:07", "text": "encounter of the third kind. He actually"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "saw the entities. And that was in the"}, {"start": "02:00:07", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "70s. They like hanged himself in this"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "hotel or something crazy. You have to"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "look it up. But um"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:17", "text": ">> hung himself from the almost the base of"}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "his bed. It's very strange."}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:20", "text": ">> And that I think that was just about 2"}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:21", "text": "or 3 weeks after he gave testimony."}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:23", "text": ">> Get that on camera testimony."}, {"start": "02:00:21", "end": "02:00:25", "text": ">> Yeah. To uh to to Jarrett."}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:28", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Really good. I mean, thank"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:29", "text": "God for I know. It's terrible. So that's"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "that case. Then you had UFOs over Brazil"}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "1986."}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:35", "text": ">> Was that the year of the saucer?"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:38", "text": ">> Uh it's called UFOs over Brazil. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:00:35", "end": "02:00:40", "text": "That's kind of what it's known. Uh 1986"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "and they had a press conference. They"}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "had the pilots. I mean, quite honestly,"}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "it was very similar to the two"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "consecutive weekends in Washington DC in"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:50", "text": "1952."}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:52", "text": ">> The right almost like an invasion, you"}, {"start": "02:00:50", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "know, and they they engaged with them"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "the in the airplanes. I I again I"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "feature some of that in the first cut of"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:00:59", "text": "Moment of Contact if you guys want to"}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "check it out. And then of course you've"}, {"start": "02:00:59", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "got uh Vargia"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "which quite honestly I think I can't"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "think of a better crash retrieval case"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "particularly involving the Americans uh"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "known uh in the world. I think it's the"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "I think it's the best most well"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "doumented and it's getting better by the"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "day."}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:21", "text": ">> Yeah, it is. There's something about the"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "Amazon that intrigues me,"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": ">> you know. Yeah. I I and I apologize to"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "your audience for this. I mean, the only"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "case that I know extremely well, and"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:31", "text": "I've done sort of"}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:33", "text": "a glance at the other cases, but the one"}, {"start": "02:01:31", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "I put a laser-like focus on is Vargia."}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "So, it's I know"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:38", "text": ">> that case pretty well. I've been really"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "digging my and I learn new stuff every"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "day. I'm trying to more pieces of the"}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:42", "text": "puzzle and there's still missing pieces,"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "but"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:47", "text": ">> but like I said earlier, I think it's"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "this is the case that could uh settle"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "the debate"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:52", "text": ">> for sure. How long did it take the US"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "Air Force to get involved in that?"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:53", "text": ">> Almost immediately."}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:56", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Because according to the flight"}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:02:00", "text": "controller, uh it was on around the"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:00", "text": "20th."}, {"start": "02:02:00", "end": "02:02:03", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:02:00", "end": "02:02:05", "text": ">> So, it would have been, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "same day or maybe the next day after the"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "girls saw the creature, like all that"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "activity and hoopla. Um, I don't know"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:13", "text": "the exact date, but it it was on or"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "around the 20th of January, and the"}, {"start": "02:02:13", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "flight came in, and all the military"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "people I talked to, everybody involved"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "in the case all say,"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:25", "text": "I can't say this for sure, but rumor has"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "it the Americans came, the Americans"}, {"start": "02:02:25", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "came, the Americans came, the Americans"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "came, they came to Kimpenus, and we have"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "the very gentleman that was one of the"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "people in operation of the transport of"}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "one of the beans, possibly two of the"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:41", "text": "beans, from Humanitas Hospital."}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "and went to as a military base."}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "Apparently, they backed the trucks up to"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "the wall for I don't know a few hours of"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "the night and then they continued their"}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:52", "text": "journey on Dome Pedro, I think it's"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "called, freeway all the way down to"}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:56", "text": "Esposex military base in Campinas and"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "then that's when the Americans landed."}, {"start": "02:02:56", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "And actually, it's so funny too cuz you"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:01", "text": "hear all the accounts of the people that"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "we talked to. It's like, yeah, they all"}, {"start": "02:03:01", "end": "02:03:04", "text": "even including the military chief of"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "police, he said the same thing,"}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:09", "text": "campenis, and that's when the Americans"}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:11", "text": "came in. So it's like the everything"}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "makes sense, you know, the accounts of"}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:15", "text": "the plane came in here. This is where I"}, {"start": "02:03:13", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "dropped it off. It all went here. Like"}, {"start": "02:03:15", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "it just big cargo transport plane,"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:21", "text": "helicopter coming out the back going to"}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "Virginia. It's like what the hell else"}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "were they doing there?"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:27", "text": ">> Was that um was Dr. Itelo's patient was"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "that being still alive? Yes,"}, {"start": "02:03:27", "end": "02:03:31", "text": ">> it still was alive."}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:33", "text": ">> Fully alive. Well, yeah. I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:36", "text": "know how long it stayed alive, but it"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:38", "text": "was fully alive and fully doing well on"}, {"start": "02:03:36", "end": "02:03:40", "text": "the 20th."}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:43", "text": ">> Wow. So, when you spoke to Eric Davis,"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "he talked about"}, {"start": "02:03:43", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "alien species. He talked about the"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:50", "text": "grays, the Nordics, a lot of these."}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "So, what's the taxonomy of this"}, {"start": "02:03:50", "end": "02:03:55", "text": "particular alien that was in Virginia? I"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "mean, how many species? I know we're"}, {"start": "02:03:55", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "speculating, but this is a storytelling"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:03:58", "text": "show."}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:04:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. This is really This is Okay."}, {"start": "02:03:58", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "So, there's a uh a segment with Jacqu"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:07", "text": "Valet because he was unable to attend"}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:09", "text": "the press club meeting that we had and"}, {"start": "02:04:07", "end": "02:04:11", "text": "it was January 20th, the 30th"}, {"start": "02:04:09", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "anniversary of the incident and that's"}, {"start": "02:04:11", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "when we held it in Washington DC and we"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "presented cuz Jacques couldn't be there"}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "and Jock goes out on a limb and"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "describes various cases and different"}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "types of creatures or beings or"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:28", "text": "non-human intelligence, whatever you"}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "want to call them. And I think that you"}, {"start": "02:04:28", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "should you should uh show your audience"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "that clip because it's very interesting."}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:36", "text": "He talks about exactly what you're what"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "you're mentioning now."}, {"start": "02:04:36", "end": "02:04:41", "text": ">> Do you get a sense of are these beings"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:44", "text": "from other planets or are they here?"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:45", "text": "What do they want?"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:47", "text": ">> I wish I knew."}, {"start": "02:04:45", "end": "02:04:48", "text": ">> Speculate. Well,"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:51", "text": ">> I mean, it's Yeah, I"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:53", "text": ">> I I mean, from all the different people"}, {"start": "02:04:51", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "that I've talked to and all the"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:56", "text": "different alleged firsthand witnesses to"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "close encounters with the third kind,"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "there seems to be"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:05", "text": "different races, different agendas,"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "different um I mean, cuz you got, you"}, {"start": "02:05:05", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "know, the quintessential, you know,"}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "almond shaped eyes, black eyes, gray,"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "spindly arm, spindly legs. That seems to"}, {"start": "02:05:11", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "be, you know, the worker be or whatever."}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:20", "text": "Some of them think that they're"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:22", "text": "uh biologically engineered, you know,"}, {"start": "02:05:20", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "entities with an intelligence. Uh what"}, {"start": "02:05:22", "end": "02:05:26", "text": "do what do I know? I you know, that"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "seems to be some people describe brown"}, {"start": "02:05:26", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "skin or white skin or gray skin, but the"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "big eyes, the big teardrop shaped head,"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "the three digits, I think three fingers"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "and a thumb, uh seems to be fairly"}, {"start": "02:05:35", "end": "02:05:42", "text": "consistent. But then you got people like"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "Travis Walton. Mhm. Describing creature"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "human looking, you know, like"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "beautiful blonde, blue eyes humans, like"}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "very attractive. I guess they call them"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "the Nordics."}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:57", "text": ">> The Nordics, the tall whites, whatever."}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:05:59", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "02:05:57", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "you've got those types. And then you've"}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:05", "text": "got, you know, if the the account is to"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "be believed, you've got, you know, Jason"}, {"start": "02:06:05", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "Sans in his convoy in 1994 talking about"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:15", "text": "this and he was was really odd is that,"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "you know, he was dressed in military"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:19", "text": "outfit and Jason said they were all like"}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "looking at his boots and his boots and"}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:23", "text": "he's been walking through the the dry"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "desert and dusty desert. His boots were"}, {"start": "02:06:23", "end": "02:06:27", "text": "immaculate, like spotless, but he"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:29", "text": "described the big eyes, but they weren't"}, {"start": "02:06:27", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "almond shaped. They were just really big"}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "and dark and no no real ears. Yeah. No"}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "ears. No, you know, um, and that's a"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "different type. And was that entity, if"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "it's true, was that entity capable of"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "projecting how it wanted to be seen."}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "Sometimes you wonder about that. Like"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "why was his military outfit spotless,"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "right,"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:57", "text": ">> in the desert according to the witness,"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:57", "text": "you know? Um, so"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "We could be dealing with all the above."}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "We could be dealing with like"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:06", "text": "interplanetary. Maybe there's some that"}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "live under the oceans. Maybe maybe they"}, {"start": "02:07:06", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "live on the back side of the moon. Who"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:12", "text": "knows? You know what I mean? Like maybe"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "they're right here. Maybe they're"}, {"start": "02:07:12", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "interdimensional. They come in and out,"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:17", "text": ">> Just like tune, you know, change the"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "frequency a little bit."}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:22", "text": ">> I I really don't know. I'd love to know."}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:24", "text": "I'd love to know how many different"}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "species or races. I'd love to know what"}, {"start": "02:07:24", "end": "02:07:29", "text": "their agenda is. I'd love to know why"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:31", "text": "they don't make their their presence"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "more overtly known."}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "Um because you look at like I've I've"}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:38", "text": "studied a number of different like you"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:40", "text": "know so-called landing cases whatever"}, {"start": "02:07:38", "end": "02:07:40", "text": "you know I can go into detail with that"}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "but"}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:44", "text": ">> please do"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:46", "text": ">> well like"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "I okay I'll just go into a little bit"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:50", "text": "1964 was April 24th 1964 there's a"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "police officer by the name of Lonnie"}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "Zamora he was in hot pursuit of a"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "speeding car. It was like was it late"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "afternoon? It was around coming up on"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "5:00."}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "And um he saw this eggshaped white"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "egg-shaped thing whiz across the road in"}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "front of him like maybe off in the"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "distance, some kind of flash. He thought"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "maybe it was like a dynamite shack that"}, {"start": "02:08:11", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "might have I don't know, something he"}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:15", "text": "needed to go investigate. So he"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "terminates his his police chase. He"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:20", "text": "takes a right and he goes up this dirt"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:23", "text": "road and down in a royal"}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:25", "text": "he sees an egg. Basically, it could be a"}, {"start": "02:08:23", "end": "02:08:30", "text": "tic tac, right? An egg-shaped object. It"}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "had a little symbol on it and two small"}, {"start": "02:08:30", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "childlike creatures"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:38", "text": "stepping around on the bottom just like,"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:40", "text": "you know, outside on the ground."}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:44", "text": "Excuse me. He's like looking. He's like,"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "\"God damn, is that that like is a car"}, {"start": "02:08:44", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "crash? Two kids? Like, what the hell am"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "I looking at?\" And one of them, excuse"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:54", "text": "me, one of them looks him right in the"}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:57", "text": "eyes and he's startled. The the creature"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "was startled. Lonnie was startled."}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:02", "text": "So Lonnie"}, {"start": "02:08:59", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "breaks contact and he drives cuz like So"}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:08", "text": "the the road, let's say the road is like"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:12", "text": "here, right? The road wraps around like"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:15", "text": "that. He's here and he sees the landed"}, {"start": "02:09:12", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "craft and the entities and he gets face"}, {"start": "02:09:15", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "contact. By the time he got around to"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "here to get a closer look, the craft was"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "still sitting on the ground spooling up,"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "but the hatch had closed cuz he heard a"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "thump and the creatures were gone and"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "the craft departed. Now, if you look at"}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "where the craft landed just on the"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "outskirts of town, I don't know if it"}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "had a problem, if they were gathering"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:41", "text": "soil samples. God only knows. I have no"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:43", "text": "idea. But they did it in a spot that"}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "would minimize any potential exposure."}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "They landed in this little recessed"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "aoyo, right? So they would minimize the"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "chance of being seen and where they were"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "spotted,"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "they were evasive and they got in and"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:09:59", "text": "left. They could have established some"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:00", "text": "level of communication, could have"}, {"start": "02:09:59", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "driven over there. They could have, you"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:04", "text": "know, they didn't do that. They left."}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "if you look at"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "um the Travis Walton case, which I"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "consider a very credible case because"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:14", "text": "there were like seven witnesses um seven"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:15", "text": "witnesses of the craft and his alleged I"}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "would say abduction. I think I don't"}, {"start": "02:10:15", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "think it was an abduction. I think that"}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:20", "text": "he got into the way of the propulsion of"}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "the craft and and affected him somehow"}, {"start": "02:10:20", "end": "02:10:24", "text": "and they came back and got him brought"}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:27", "text": "him back to life and then dropped him"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "off. Now, if you look at where"}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "where they dropped him off,"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:35", "text": "where they took him was a very remote"}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "area in the in Snowflake, Arizona up in"}, {"start": "02:10:35", "end": "02:10:39", "text": "the mountains. I've been there several"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "times. It's remot. Okay. He would have"}, {"start": "02:10:39", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "died if they would have dropped him off"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:43", "text": "where they picked him up. They didn't do"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:45", "text": "that. They dropped him off on the"}, {"start": "02:10:43", "end": "02:10:47", "text": "outskirts 5 days later on the outskirts"}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "of town if the accounts would be to be"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:50", "text": "believed. They dropped him off on the"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "outskirts close enough to like a pay"}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:54", "text": "phone or, you know, where you can get"}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "help. But they did it at night and they"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:10:58", "text": "did it in an area that was a dip down"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:10:59", "text": "where they could like drop him off and"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:01", "text": "then get the hell out of there to"}, {"start": "02:10:59", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "minimize any potential for any exposure."}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:06", "text": "So they cared enough"}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:08", "text": ">> to for his well-being, but they also"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "didn't want their presence known, widely"}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:13", "text": "known. Do you know what I mean? I do."}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:14", "text": ">> So you look at like cases like that and"}, {"start": "02:11:13", "end": "02:11:17", "text": "you go, \"All right, well, you look at"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "what they do, what they do, and then you"}, {"start": "02:11:17", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "look at what they don't do.\" And"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "sometimes the what they don't do"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:27", "text": "is evidence of of potentially their"}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:28", "text": "objectives or their agenda, you know,"}, {"start": "02:11:27", "end": "02:11:30", "text": "because if they wanted to make"}, {"start": "02:11:28", "end": "02:11:32", "text": "theirelves overtly known, they just"}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "hover over the next"}, {"start": "02:11:32", "end": "02:11:35", "text": ">> football game or, you know, Super Bowl,"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "whatever. Game over."}, {"start": "02:11:35", "end": "02:11:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Take me to your leader."}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:38", "text": ">> But they don't do that."}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:40", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:42", "text": ">> They did some pretty bold maneuvers. I"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:46", "text": "call it like the um show of force during"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "the 1940s and50s u when they were fleets"}, {"start": "02:11:46", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "of them flying over America. I mean it's"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "all the newspapers especially 52 the 52"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "wave was phenomenal."}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:54", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:56", "text": ">> Um and you look at the White House"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "buzzing the capital building in 1952"}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "consecutive weekends scramming military"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "jets. That's pretty provocative, right?"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "You look at the case in um"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "uh what was it? June 13th, 1997. Don't"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:14", "text": "quote me on that exact date. Sorry."}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:16", "text": "March March 13, 1997 in Phoenix. That"}, {"start": "02:12:14", "end": "02:12:17", "text": "craft even according to the governor F"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "Simington was"}, {"start": "02:12:17", "end": "02:12:20", "text": ">> Oh, this is the Phoenix lights."}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:22", "text": ">> Phoenix lights. I investigated that on"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:23", "text": "and off for 10 years. And I interviewed"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "families that said they were lying on"}, {"start": "02:12:23", "end": "02:12:29", "text": "their front lawns watching this colossal"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "mammoth like a floating city like float"}, {"start": "02:12:29", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "over the top big boomerang shaped thing"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:34", "text": "where they could look up and see metal"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:36", "text": "compartments, blah blah blah."}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:37", "text": ">> For hours this thing was up."}, {"start": "02:12:36", "end": "02:12:39", "text": ">> Oh yeah. It went from the north all the"}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "way down to the south ended up like"}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:43", "text": "Tucson over it flew over Interstate 10."}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "I mean, it was witnessed by so many"}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "people including the governor,"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:47", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:49", "text": ">> And uh that's pretty provocative."}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:51", "text": ">> Like flying low and slow and it was done"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "at a time when everyone was out of under"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "the night sky trying to get a glimpse of"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "the Hellbob comet."}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:58", "text": ">> So that's provocative. I mean that's"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "that's something, right? And you got"}, {"start": "02:12:58", "end": "02:13:01", "text": "Hudson Valley sightings, you got the"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "Belgian sightings in the late 80s, early"}, {"start": "02:13:01", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "90s. Provocative. I mean, I interviewed"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "a police officer who was involved in the"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "Hudson Valley in the 70s."}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:16", "text": "I don't know the exact year,"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "but he said this massive triangular"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": "shaped size of a football field object"}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "was floating over the top of him. I"}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "talked to the police officer myself. He"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "goes, I was kind of curious. I took my"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:31", "text": "flashlight out and flashed it at the at"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "the object. And this is in the 70s. And"}, {"start": "02:13:31", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "he goes, \"Son of a that thing re"}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "responded.\""}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "Bam! A laser beam light down at my feet."}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:40", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:41", "text": ">> He's like, \"Shit.\" I wasn't know if that"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:45", "text": "was like a friendly gesture or if that"}, {"start": "02:13:41", "end": "02:13:47", "text": "was like a shot across the bow. Like, so"}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "there's been some very provocative Do"}, {"start": "02:13:47", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:51", "text": ">> I do."}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:53", "text": ">> Um, but they don't make themselves"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:56", "text": "overtly known, which also makes me"}, {"start": "02:13:53", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "wonder. I I you know,"}, {"start": "02:13:56", "end": "02:13:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Like I said, you you look at what"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "they do and you look at what they don't"}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:06", "text": "do. We've got um clearly something's"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:08", "text": "happening. Clearly uh the military or"}, {"start": "02:14:06", "end": "02:14:09", "text": "someone knows what's going on. Do you"}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:10", "text": "ever find yourself frustrated that"}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:11", "text": "you're almost playing a cat-and- mouse"}, {"start": "02:14:10", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "game?"}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:14", "text": ">> Very much so."}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:16", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, like, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:20", "text": "Virginia case, like, you know, I'm all"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "in on that right now. And um"}, {"start": "02:14:20", "end": "02:14:24", "text": "there's nobody on planet Earth that"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "would like to"}, {"start": "02:14:24", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "find that photograph, find that piece of"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "video footage. Now we have names and"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:32", "text": "people that had it from people that have"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "seen it. I just got a new name a couple"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:39", "text": "days ago from a doctor, a neurosurgeon,"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "and we were texting back and forth with"}, {"start": "02:14:39", "end": "02:14:43", "text": "them and um like, well, I'll talk about"}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "whatever, but I don't want to talk about"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:49", "text": "ver, you know, Virginia. You know, it's"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:51", "text": "like, but he, this individual confessed"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:53", "text": "that he was shown the video for Marcus"}, {"start": "02:14:51", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "Phinesis was but not on the record yet,"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "but we're going to continue working on"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "him. So, we have names."}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "We're hoping that people are watching"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "all the attention this case is getting"}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "and that people are going to, you know,"}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "decide, \"Hey, man, if I'm ever going to"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:07", "text": "come forward, now's the time.\" Cuz"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:09", "text": "people in their 40s are now in their"}, {"start": "02:15:07", "end": "02:15:11", "text": "70s. People in their 50s, now in their"}, {"start": "02:15:09", "end": "02:15:12", "text": "80s, you know what I mean? Like, now's"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "the time. So, it would have been 30"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:17", "text": "years ago. So, how old would have Dr."}, {"start": "02:15:14", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "Elo been? He's 74. So, he would have"}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "been what, 40, 50, 60. He'd been 44,"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:23", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:24", "text": ">> About 44 when it happened,"}, {"start": "02:15:23", "end": "02:15:27", "text": ">> you know? He's 74. So someone in their"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:28", "text": "40s, they're, you know, they're on the"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "cusp of retirement,"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "you know, probably a lot less to lose,"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:36", "text": "wanting their grandchildren to know the"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "truth. So I'm I'm encouraged. I think I"}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "think it's it's ripe. Now is the time"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:44", "text": "that this stuff could come out, and it"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "is coming out, but more. We just need a"}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:48", "text": "few more doctors. We need the video, and"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "we need the American side to come"}, {"start": "02:15:48", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "forward, and then we've got a slam dunk."}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:53", "text": ">> Yeah, it's the American side. I think"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "that's the bottleneck there."}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:57", "text": ">> We're working on it."}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:58", "text": ">> I hope that video still exists because a"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:15:59", "text": "lot of people are invested in making"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "sure it never sees the light of day."}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:05", "text": ">> That's for damn sure. That's for sure."}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:08", "text": "We were in contact with people"}, {"start": "02:16:05", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "after um after the first cut came out."}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "We were contacted by a number of people."}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "Sometimes, you know, you can kind of"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:16", "text": "tell cuz I I've been contacted for years"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:18", "text": "by witnesses. You can just kind of tell"}, {"start": "02:16:16", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "when you get one that you go, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "this is raising an eyebrow.\" And that's"}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:23", "text": "when"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "you know someone will it's very short."}, {"start": "02:16:23", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "It'll be like I've got what you're"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:28", "text": "looking for you know kind of thing as"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:30", "text": "opposed to writing me like a novel. It's"}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "like you know what I it's like"}, {"start": "02:16:30", "end": "02:16:37", "text": ">> and and um and they could have been"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "joking but"}, {"start": "02:16:37", "end": "02:16:41", "text": ">> uh you get back in touch with them and"}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:44", "text": "they're just gone. It's like well why"}, {"start": "02:16:41", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "did they you know and so makes me"}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "paranoidly thinking like am I being"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "watched again? We did a a proton email"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "which you're going to put on the screen."}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:52", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:53", "text": ">> For people to get in touch with us,"}, {"start": "02:16:52", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "particularly anybody on the American,"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:57", "text": "anybody who witnessing the Vargia case."}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:16:59", "text": "And"}, {"start": "02:16:57", "end": "02:17:01", "text": ">> not to be rude, but if you have a whole"}, {"start": "02:16:59", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "UFO story that's unrelated, please save"}, {"start": "02:17:01", "end": "02:17:06", "text": "it for another time. I just want to put"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "a laser-like focus on on Vargia uh video"}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:11", "text": "or any participation in the flight um"}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "from Campenas back to the States. I did"}, {"start": "02:17:11", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "get contacted by one individual via"}, {"start": "02:17:13", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "email. He said, \"It's been weighing on"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:20", "text": "me and my family for decades.\" I was"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, we did it.\" You know,"}, {"start": "02:17:20", "end": "02:17:24", "text": "and then I was, he's like, \"You contact"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "me like this.\" I'll show you the email."}, {"start": "02:17:24", "end": "02:17:28", "text": "You contact me like this. Just, you"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:30", "text": "know, conversations terminated if you"}, {"start": "02:17:28", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "did. So, I did everything he told me to"}, {"start": "02:17:30", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "do. Waited about 36 hours after he sent"}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:39", "text": "me the first email. It was like, \"Oh, my"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "this isn't who you think it is. My email"}, {"start": "02:17:39", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "got hacked and uh I don't know anything"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:47", "text": "and goodbye.\""}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:49", "text": "So I just thought really. So I waited"}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:51", "text": "like 6 months and then I sent a separate"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:53", "text": "email not part of that thread based on"}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:55", "text": "the email address. Hey this is so and so"}, {"start": "02:17:53", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "tree service you know I'm coming to cut"}, {"start": "02:17:55", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "your hedges cuz I was hoping like maybe"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "he'd be like sure"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:02", "text": ">> I just need to meet with you to give you"}, {"start": "02:18:00", "end": "02:18:03", "text": "an estimate you know and I was like do"}, {"start": "02:18:02", "end": "02:18:05", "text": "you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:07", "text": ">> Cuz I thought well maybe. And then I"}, {"start": "02:18:05", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "finally got some little response and I"}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "thought and then it was just"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:14", "text": ">> how do you how do you vet your stories?"}, {"start": "02:18:13", "end": "02:18:15", "text": "How do you how"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:18", "text": ">> well you got to go meet the people. I"}, {"start": "02:18:15", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "mean I you know also you know I tell"}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:21", "text": "people because I had people telling me"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "just last year like we've got I've got"}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:26", "text": "the video as a woman I got the video you"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "need to come. I I'm giving it away for"}, {"start": "02:18:26", "end": "02:18:31", "text": "free. I just I can't this is a burden. I"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:33", "text": "don't want this in my life anymore. I"}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:34", "text": "want it out of my life. Like just get it"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "away. I think it was her husband's or"}, {"start": "02:18:34", "end": "02:18:39", "text": "something. And I said, \"I'll come.\" But"}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:42", "text": "I said, \"I can't just drop everything in"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "the middle of I'm editing movie."}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:47", "text": "Fly, excuse me, fly all the way to South"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "blah blah blah in Brazil without any"}, {"start": "02:18:47", "end": "02:18:51", "text": "kind of roof. Like I, you know, I'm just"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:52", "text": "I'm sorry, I can't do that.\" And we went"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "back and forth for a long time. And I"}, {"start": "02:18:52", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "said, \"Just show me like two frames,"}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "just one picture, and I'm on a plane"}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "tomorrow.\" And then after like months of"}, {"start": "02:18:59", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "back and forth, she like, \"You don't"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:05", "text": "come down. We're ter.\" And that was it."}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:07", "text": "That person's gone."}, {"start": "02:19:05", "end": "02:19:08", "text": "Did she have it? Was she bluffing? I"}, {"start": "02:19:07", "end": "02:19:10", "text": "don't know. But I wasn't willing to fly"}, {"start": "02:19:08", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "away to Brazil just because someone said"}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:14", "text": "they had it. Maybe she did have it. I"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "don't know. But why wouldn't you show me"}, {"start": "02:19:14", "end": "02:19:17", "text": "one screen? Send me one screen and I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "there."}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:21", "text": ">> What What pictures have you seen that"}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:22", "text": "that you were convinced like this is"}, {"start": "02:19:21", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "legit?"}, {"start": "02:19:22", "end": "02:19:27", "text": ">> Oh, I would say one of the best"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:27", "text": "photographs ever."}, {"start": "02:19:28", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "It's in my film the program which you"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "can watch for free on YouTube movies and"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "it's bloody good man. We got the back we"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "got a bit of background on it as well."}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:47", "text": "Taken in 1990 Calvine Scotland"}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:49", "text": "and David Clark is the researcher that"}, {"start": "02:19:47", "end": "02:19:51", "text": "uncovered it. And it's a long story, but"}, {"start": "02:19:49", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "I'd heard about this case because I"}, {"start": "02:19:51", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "interviewed Nick Pope who was part of"}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "the mod u UFO desk in the '9s. And um I"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:02", "text": "probably interviewed him in the early 20"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:05", "text": "well I talked to him in the early 2000s,"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:07", "text": "probably very early 2000s. And I was"}, {"start": "02:20:05", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "like, \"Oh, you were at the UFO desk."}, {"start": "02:20:07", "end": "02:20:11", "text": "What was the best case?\" You know, like"}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:14", "text": "what what did you see? You know,"}, {"start": "02:20:11", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "Nick Pope goes,"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "\"Oh, there was two hikers in Scotland.\""}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:23", "text": "And he didn't say Calvine. He just said"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:25", "text": "Scotland. Broad daylight, six prints,"}, {"start": "02:20:23", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "beautiful like diamond shaped, you know,"}, {"start": "02:20:25", "end": "02:20:31", "text": "like craft hovering in the sky with a"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "military jet going around. I was like,"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:33", "text": "you got to be kidding me."}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:34", "text": ">> You can see this online if you guys want"}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "to look at it."}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:38", "text": ">> Yeah. The combine UFO."}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:40", "text": ">> I pestered him and I pestered him and I"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "pestered him and I he goes, we had a big"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "poster of it on the wall and the UFO"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "desk. He goes, I don't know. I don't"}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:50", "text": "know. I don't know. And I said, \"Nick,"}, {"start": "02:20:48", "end": "02:20:53", "text": "no one threw that picture away. It's"}, {"start": "02:20:50", "end": "02:20:54", "text": "still somewhere.\" Like, \"What about the"}, {"start": "02:20:53", "end": "02:20:55", "text": "names of the guys that you worked with?"}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "They're retired. Where are they now?\""}, {"start": "02:20:55", "end": "02:21:00", "text": "Like, I pestered them, and pestered"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:02", "text": "them, pestered them. I can never excuse"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "me. I could never get it out of them."}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "And then this researcher David Clark,"}, {"start": "02:21:08", "end": "02:21:14", "text": "he finds some foyer documents, release"}, {"start": "02:21:12", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "documents from the British from the"}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "Ministry of Defense. And it one of them"}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:24", "text": "was like redacted. It was like the Royal"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "Air Force press officer blocked out in"}, {"start": "02:21:24", "end": "02:21:29", "text": "blah blah blah Scotland. And he's like,"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "\"Who is the Royal Air Force Press"}, {"start": "02:21:29", "end": "02:21:34", "text": "Officer in Scotland?\" It is."}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "Oh. Um,"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "uh, Craig Lindsay."}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "So, he contacts Craig Lindsay and long"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "story short, which went on for a while."}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "Craig Lindsay"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:51", "text": "had gotten a call from a local"}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "newspaper. Maybe it was like the"}, {"start": "02:21:51", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "Scotland Yard or D something. Any look"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:58", "text": "it up. And they said, \"Oh, you know,"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "we're we're here trying to, you know,"}, {"start": "02:21:58", "end": "02:22:03", "text": "get a quote from the RAF about this uh"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "about this UFO photograph.\" And he's"}, {"start": "02:22:03", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "like, \"I don't know what you're talking"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "about. What are you talking about?\" They"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "said, \"Well, there's these two mates,"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:11", "text": "these two guys that are going to publish"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "this story, and we just want to comment"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "on what this might what this could"}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:15", "text": "possibly be. It's got a military jet.\""}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:16", "text": "He goes, \"Well, I haven't seen it, so I"}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:18", "text": "don't know what you're talking about.\""}, {"start": "02:22:16", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "They So, they said, \"Well, we'll send"}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:23", "text": "you a print.\" So, they sent him a print."}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "He's like, \"Holy shit.\" like this is"}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "it's good. And um"}, {"start": "02:22:27", "end": "02:22:33", "text": "so he immediately I think he con what?"}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:36", "text": "Yeah, he does contact the MOD and then"}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "the MOD contacts him and he starts to"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "investigate. He meets with the witnesses"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "at a hotel. They tell him their account."}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "They said it was hovering. It was"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:47", "text": "silent. They were terrified. They were"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "cowering beneath the tree. When it was"}, {"start": "02:22:47", "end": "02:22:52", "text": "hovering there, they was like, \"What are"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "we looking at?\" They had a camera and he"}, {"start": "02:22:52", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "said uh they said that a military jet"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:57", "text": "came in and at that point they got"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "enough courage the military jet did a"}, {"start": "02:22:57", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "full pass. It went in around the entire"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "object and the six I think it was like"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "six or seven prints. It was picture"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "so all the pictures is relatively the"}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "same object, same spot, same tree, all"}, {"start": "02:23:12", "end": "02:23:17", "text": "that ground everything with the jet in a"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "different position."}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "So, uh, you know, Craig was like, \"Well,"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:25", "text": "what kind of noise did it make?\" And the"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:27", "text": "witnesses were like, \"It didn't make any"}, {"start": "02:23:25", "end": "02:23:28", "text": "noise at all. It was just completely"}, {"start": "02:23:27", "end": "02:23:30", "text": "silent.\" He's like, \"Well, I don't"}, {"start": "02:23:28", "end": "02:23:31", "text": "know.\" He's a Royal Air Force press"}, {"start": "02:23:30", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "office. I don't know any planes at"}, {"start": "02:23:31", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "anything without any wings, without any"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "visible, you know, blah blah blah. And"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:39", "text": "then as he's in the middle of this"}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:41", "text": "investigation, he gets a call from the"}, {"start": "02:23:39", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "MOD and they were like, \"We'll take it"}, {"start": "02:23:41", "end": "02:23:46", "text": "from here. Thanks.\" And that was the end"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "of that. Well, he keeps that print in a"}, {"start": "02:23:46", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "book and kind of forgets about it. Then"}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:55", "text": "he retires and it's whatever 30 33 34"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "years later and he finds the damn thing"}, {"start": "02:23:55", "end": "02:23:59", "text": "and he gives it to he gives it that's"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "the only reason why we have that"}, {"start": "02:23:59", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "photograph. Yep."}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:03", "text": ">> Thank God to Craig Lind Craig Lindsay"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:05", "text": "cuz they buried that story."}, {"start": "02:24:03", "end": "02:24:06", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "02:24:05", "end": "02:24:08", "text": ">> and I interviewed Nick Pope and he was"}, {"start": "02:24:06", "end": "02:24:11", "text": "like they wanted to bury it and they"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "did. And then and then at the last"}, {"start": "02:24:11", "end": "02:24:15", "text": "possible"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "like minute of production with the"}, {"start": "02:24:15", "end": "02:24:19", "text": "program, the documentary I was just"}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "talking about. Uh there was a guy I"}, {"start": "02:24:19", "end": "02:24:25", "text": "always get his name wrong. Um Greavves,"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:27", "text": "Richard Greavves, and he's like he's"}, {"start": "02:24:25", "end": "02:24:29", "text": "like, \"You're he called me. He's like,"}, {"start": "02:24:27", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "\"You're mispronouncing my name.\" He's is"}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:34", "text": "it Griev? He's like, \"No, it's"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:37", "text": "Greavves.\" Greavves. And he and he"}, {"start": "02:24:34", "end": "02:24:39", "text": "describes what happened. He goes, \"I I"}, {"start": "02:24:37", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "knew those bloss. I was, you know, he he"}, {"start": "02:24:39", "end": "02:24:42", "text": "was up there and he said they were on a"}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:44", "text": "cigarette break couple days after."}, {"start": "02:24:42", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "They're about to go public."}, {"start": "02:24:44", "end": "02:24:49", "text": ">> Black car rolls up. There are these men"}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "in black again. Heard the heard about"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:51", "text": "him a thousand times."}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:53", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "02:24:51", "end": "02:24:55", "text": ">> and he said they came up, they got out"}, {"start": "02:24:53", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "of the car and what he what the way he"}, {"start": "02:24:55", "end": "02:24:59", "text": "describes the guy smoking behind the"}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "wheel. It's the funniest thing. Richard"}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:02", "text": "Greavves should be a comedian because"}, {"start": "02:25:00", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "the way he described this guy smoking, I"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:06", "text": "was like I've never heard anybody"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "describe the way inhaling so hard it lit"}, {"start": "02:25:06", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "up the whole cabin on the inside of the"}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:11", "text": "car. is really sucking the cigarette"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:13", "text": "down. And then he's the driver stays in."}, {"start": "02:25:11", "end": "02:25:18", "text": "It was a Mercedes. Two guys get out."}, {"start": "02:25:13", "end": "02:25:22", "text": "They cigarette breaks over. Yeah. Take"}, {"start": "02:25:18", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "the two guys pissing rain outside in the"}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "pissing rain talking to them. They're"}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "all the other workers that were not"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:28", "text": "participating in the event itself."}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:30", "text": "Didn't take the pictures, didn't"}, {"start": "02:25:28", "end": "02:25:32", "text": "witness. They were looking through the"}, {"start": "02:25:30", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "window watching this whole pissing rain."}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:35", "text": "It was raining so hard and they were"}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:37", "text": "just standing in the pissing rain"}, {"start": "02:25:35", "end": "02:25:40", "text": "getting drilled by these two men in dark"}, {"start": "02:25:37", "end": "02:25:41", "text": "suits, long overcoats."}, {"start": "02:25:40", "end": "02:25:43", "text": "He said they came back in and I'll never"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:46", "text": "forget this. He's like, \"Why is a"}, {"start": "02:25:43", "end": "02:25:49", "text": " ghost"}, {"start": "02:25:46", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "just, you know, scared the shiza out of"}, {"start": "02:25:49", "end": "02:25:53", "text": "these two witnesses,"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:55", "text": ">> started drinking heavily, sleeping in"}, {"start": "02:25:53", "end": "02:25:57", "text": "their cars at night at the at at at at"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:25:59", "text": "the hotel, and then they vanished after"}, {"start": "02:25:57", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "a couple of weeks, and they're to this"}, {"start": "02:25:59", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "day, they've never been seen again.\" H"}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "that story. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:12", "text": "that is such a good case. Now,"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:14", "text": ">> the pilot, it was a"}, {"start": "02:26:12", "end": "02:26:15", "text": "the Harrier jump jet is what I was told."}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:17", "text": "It's in the picture. Most likely, they"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "said it's pretty likely to be a Harrier"}, {"start": "02:26:17", "end": "02:26:20", "text": "jump."}, {"start": "02:26:18", "end": "02:26:23", "text": ">> That pilot would have been, what is that"}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:27", "text": "was 1990, so that would be like what"}, {"start": "02:26:23", "end": "02:26:29", "text": ">> uh 36 years ago? Coming up on 36 years."}, {"start": "02:26:27", "end": "02:26:32", "text": "So, 36 years. Let's say the pilot was in"}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "his mid-30s. Could have been up to 40,"}, {"start": "02:26:32", "end": "02:26:39", "text": "maybe 35, 35, 30, 35."}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:41", "text": ">> Well, he would be a 65 now, maybe 70, 65"}, {"start": "02:26:39", "end": "02:26:43", "text": "or 70. If you're out there listening,"}, {"start": "02:26:41", "end": "02:26:45", "text": "you've got my Proton email. Give us a"}, {"start": "02:26:43", "end": "02:26:46", "text": "call cuz I can guarantee you he got a"}, {"start": "02:26:45", "end": "02:26:47", "text": "hell of a view of that thing."}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:49", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "02:26:47", "end": "02:26:50", "text": ">> He flew all the way around it. And he"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:54", "text": "probably had gun cam rolling."}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:57", "text": ">> Mhm. That That's a That's right. They"}, {"start": "02:26:54", "end": "02:26:59", "text": "buried that picture."}, {"start": "02:26:57", "end": "02:27:01", "text": "banished the witnesses. Those guys"}, {"start": "02:26:59", "end": "02:27:02", "text": "wanted to come forward. They were at the"}, {"start": "02:27:01", "end": "02:27:05", "text": "local newspaper. They were they were"}, {"start": "02:27:02", "end": "02:27:08", "text": "getting their story out with all those"}, {"start": "02:27:05", "end": "02:27:10", "text": "prints."}, {"start": "02:27:08", "end": "02:27:11", "text": "Really good story. And that's another"}, {"start": "02:27:10", "end": "02:27:13", "text": "Men in Black story. I'm like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "god, how many times I got to hear this.\""}, {"start": "02:27:13", "end": "02:27:16", "text": ">> That's why it's so hard to even reach"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "out to you because"}, {"start": "02:27:16", "end": "02:27:22", "text": ">> could be the last email you ever send."}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:24", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I Yeah. I You know, I'm"}, {"start": "02:27:22", "end": "02:27:24", "text": "being watched. There's no question about"}, {"start": "02:27:24", "end": "02:27:25", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:27:24", "end": "02:27:28", "text": ">> For sure you are."}, {"start": "02:27:25", "end": "02:27:30", "text": ">> No question. Funny how because I was at"}, {"start": "02:27:28", "end": "02:27:34", "text": "this is really funny. I was at uh the"}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:36", "text": "premiere for Age of Disclosure and uh"}, {"start": "02:27:34", "end": "02:27:39", "text": "Leslie was hang Leslie Kane. She was"}, {"start": "02:27:36", "end": "02:27:41", "text": "hanging out with met bunch of dudes in"}, {"start": "02:27:39", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "suits. Just as typical looking, you"}, {"start": "02:27:41", "end": "02:27:43", "text": "know, I think they said they're from the"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "agency. I'm pretty sure that's what they"}, {"start": "02:27:43", "end": "02:27:49", "text": "said. Thought definitely like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "and uh I was like, \"Hey, nice to meet"}, {"start": "02:27:49", "end": "02:27:51", "text": "you. Hello, blah blah blah.\" You know,"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:54", "text": "we're talking like whatever. I'll talk"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "to anybody. You know, people are people."}, {"start": "02:27:54", "end": "02:27:57", "text": "I'm not hiding anything. They know what"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:27:59", "text": "I'm up to. So, I'm talking to the guy"}, {"start": "02:27:57", "end": "02:28:01", "text": "and was chatting it up and I was like,"}, {"start": "02:27:59", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "\"Yeah, cuz I I did this film on this UFO"}, {"start": "02:28:01", "end": "02:28:04", "text": "crash and in Brazil, they're all, \"We"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:05", "text": "know exactly who you are.\""}, {"start": "02:28:04", "end": "02:28:07", "text": ">> Sure, they do."}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:09", "text": ">> Yeah. I was like, \"Oh my god.\" I mean,"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "it was a little creepy, but but it was"}, {"start": "02:28:09", "end": "02:28:14", "text": "funny, too. You know, and um when I did"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "the event at the National Press Club"}, {"start": "02:28:14", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "just a couple days ago, whatever week, I"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "can't I've been to Brazil and all over"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "the damn place. Not that long ago. It"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:27", "text": "was the 20th of January. What are we"}, {"start": "02:28:23", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "whatever. Okay. So, I see three dudes in"}, {"start": "02:28:27", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "suits come in and I knew two of them"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "because Yeah, because I've been in touch"}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:35", "text": "with some of the people within the task"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "force. You know, I went I went into a"}, {"start": "02:28:35", "end": "02:28:38", "text": "skiff with"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:40", "text": ">> John Klauscowski and people from the Air"}, {"start": "02:28:38", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "Force Office of Special Investigation."}, {"start": "02:28:40", "end": "02:28:42", "text": ">> They let you into a skiff."}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:44", "text": ">> Took me into a skiff. Yes."}, {"start": "02:28:42", "end": "02:28:46", "text": ">> What did you see in there?"}, {"start": "02:28:44", "end": "02:28:48", "text": ">> We'll talk about that in a second. Okay."}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:50", "text": "These guys showed up at the event and I"}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:51", "text": "saw them come in and I was like, \"Hey.\""}, {"start": "02:28:50", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "And they were like, they just kind of"}, {"start": "02:28:51", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "looked at me and kept going. So about"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "like 15 minutes later, things are"}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:28:58", "text": "getting going. Everyone's settling down"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:29:00", "text": "and getting ready to present. And I was"}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "with my sister Kelly and I was like,"}, {"start": "02:29:00", "end": "02:29:03", "text": "\"Hey, Kelly, get a picture of me with"}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:05", "text": "these, you know.\" So I walked up and he"}, {"start": "02:29:03", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "was like, \"Mm-"}, {"start": "02:29:05", "end": "02:29:10", "text": ">> no, no, no photo no photo, dude. Not"}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:13", "text": "now.\" Like, \"No, but we're here, you"}, {"start": "02:29:10", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "know.\" And uh yeah, we went back"}, {"start": "02:29:13", "end": "02:29:18", "text": "started. But the the other thing was I"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:20", "text": "was invited"}, {"start": "02:29:18", "end": "02:29:22", "text": "um I probably won't reveal who who made"}, {"start": "02:29:20", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "the arrangements cuz I don't I don't"}, {"start": "02:29:22", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "know if that's okay or not, but I was"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:32", "text": "invited into a skiff which is super"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:33", "text": "weird because me like they did a 20 48"}, {"start": "02:29:32", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "hour background check and then all the"}, {"start": "02:29:33", "end": "02:29:39", "text": "security and"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:41", "text": "um I was I was flying back to Vermont"}, {"start": "02:29:39", "end": "02:29:43", "text": "from Washington DC and I checked out of"}, {"start": "02:29:41", "end": "02:29:46", "text": "my hotel when I was when I had the"}, {"start": "02:29:43", "end": "02:29:48", "text": "appointment and I went uh I went into it"}, {"start": "02:29:46", "end": "02:29:50", "text": "was not far from the Pentagon. I went"}, {"start": "02:29:48", "end": "02:29:51", "text": "into this building, met in a parking lot"}, {"start": "02:29:50", "end": "02:29:53", "text": "and walked through this building, went"}, {"start": "02:29:51", "end": "02:29:56", "text": "to had to go through security, took all"}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "my stuff. Oh my god. And I go through"}, {"start": "02:29:56", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "and then uh and then there were these"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "glass tubes. I think I left Did I leave"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "my bags there? I probably did. There"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:06", "text": "were these glass tube things. One side"}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:08", "text": "opened and you stepped in it that closed"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "and the other side opened. It was just"}, {"start": "02:30:08", "end": "02:30:12", "text": "like scene out of a movie or something."}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "and then went down these corridors and"}, {"start": "02:30:12", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "we got to an area where he goes, \"All"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:18", "text": "right, now you need to get rid of all"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:19", "text": "your electronics and you need to put"}, {"start": "02:30:18", "end": "02:30:21", "text": "them in the log.\" I said, \"Can I use the"}, {"start": "02:30:19", "end": "02:30:23", "text": "bathroom real quick?\" Cuz I wanted to"}, {"start": "02:30:21", "end": "02:30:23", "text": "take a picture of the pass, which I did."}, {"start": "02:30:23", "end": "02:30:24", "text": ">> You did?"}, {"start": "02:30:23", "end": "02:30:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I took a picture of the"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "pass. I got it."}, {"start": "02:30:25", "end": "02:30:27", "text": ">> Where can we see that?"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:28", "text": ">> I'll show it to you. I'll share it with"}, {"start": "02:30:27", "end": "02:30:29", "text": "you. You can show it on the thing."}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:32", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:30:29", "end": "02:30:35", "text": ">> It says uh uh"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:36", "text": ">> it says court required."}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:38", "text": ">> Just like that. I'll show you. I took it"}, {"start": "02:30:36", "end": "02:30:39", "text": "in the bathroom."}, {"start": "02:30:38", "end": "02:30:40", "text": ">> They're probably going to find out about"}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "that. Whatever. Sorry."}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:43", "text": ">> Last gift."}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:45", "text": ">> Had to do it. I'll I'll send it to you"}, {"start": "02:30:43", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "for sure. So,"}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:51", "text": ">> so then uh take all my, you know,"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:54", "text": "everything I had electronic gone and"}, {"start": "02:30:51", "end": "02:30:56", "text": "then just vault looking door just"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "exactly the door you'd expect, right?"}, {"start": "02:30:56", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "You know, opens it up big thick thing."}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:04", "text": "Go inside. I'm like, \"Fuck, I'm in a SC."}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "Holy shit.\" But it was it was a big"}, {"start": "02:31:04", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "room. Like it was big like cubicles and"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:10", "text": "all kinds of hallways and He's"}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "like, \"Yeah, this entire area is a"}, {"start": "02:31:10", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "skiff.\" It's all part of the task force."}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:16", "text": "The head of the UAP task force, John"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:16", "text": "Klascowski. So, we walked down this"}, {"start": "02:31:16", "end": "02:31:18", "text": "hallway."}, {"start": "02:31:16", "end": "02:31:19", "text": ">> What building are you in? Where are you?"}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:20", "text": " man. I'm not far from the"}, {"start": "02:31:19", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "Pentagon. Yeah, not far from the"}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "Pentagon. I thought it was actually at"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:24", "text": "the Pentagon. It was just just really"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:26", "text": "really close."}, {"start": "02:31:24", "end": "02:31:29", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "02:31:26", "end": "02:31:30", "text": "take me down a hallway. I can't give you"}, {"start": "02:31:29", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "this guy's name. I would gladly. I can"}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:34", "text": "only give you this other he wouldn't"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:35", "text": "appreciate it. Go down this hallway and"}, {"start": "02:31:34", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "there's an open door on my left and a"}, {"start": "02:31:35", "end": "02:31:39", "text": "closed door on my right. And he's like,"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "\"I I'll be right back.\" And he leaves me"}, {"start": "02:31:39", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "there. I'm standing there and I see a"}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:47", "text": "table h maybe about the size of this. I"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:49", "text": "think it was more ovalshaped or maybe it"}, {"start": "02:31:47", "end": "02:31:51", "text": "was round. Can't remember. But I was"}, {"start": "02:31:49", "end": "02:31:53", "text": "like probably a couple girls and a"}, {"start": "02:31:51", "end": "02:31:55", "text": "couple guys and they're all in suits and"}, {"start": "02:31:53", "end": "02:31:58", "text": "they're talking and I'm tuning I'm"}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:32:00", "text": "tuning in cuz I'm like might as well."}, {"start": "02:31:58", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "You know, the brain has an incredible"}, {"start": "02:32:00", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "capacity to like filter out anything"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "else and just really hone in on"}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:06", "text": ">> No, I could see you sidling over."}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:07", "text": ">> Yeah. And so I'm listening to the"}, {"start": "02:32:06", "end": "02:32:09", "text": "conversation. Like I'll give you an"}, {"start": "02:32:07", "end": "02:32:12", "text": "example like if you ever take a like a"}, {"start": "02:32:09", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "tape recorder to a restaurant dinner,"}, {"start": "02:32:12", "end": "02:32:15", "text": "it's not recording what you heard. It's"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "recording all because it doesn't filter"}, {"start": "02:32:15", "end": "02:32:18", "text": "it out, right?"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:20", "text": ">> But I was able, you know, we can do"}, {"start": "02:32:18", "end": "02:32:21", "text": "that. We can filter out surround noise"}, {"start": "02:32:20", "end": "02:32:24", "text": "and really focus on what we want to"}, {"start": "02:32:21", "end": "02:32:24", "text": "hear. So I'm like tuning into these"}, {"start": "02:32:24", "end": "02:32:26", "text": "guys."}, {"start": "02:32:24", "end": "02:32:27", "text": ">> I'm like, \"Oh, what are they, you know,"}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "what are they on about?\" And then one of"}, {"start": "02:32:27", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "them abruptly gets up, comes over to the"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:32", "text": "door and closes in my face, you know,"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:39", "text": "and I was like, \"Shit.\""}, {"start": "02:32:32", "end": "02:32:42", "text": ">> So then uh one guy who met me uh outside"}, {"start": "02:32:39", "end": "02:32:46", "text": "suit, he comes, opens up the door, and"}, {"start": "02:32:42", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "then John Klauscowski comes in and"}, {"start": "02:32:46", "end": "02:32:49", "text": "they wanted to show me this footage that"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:50", "text": "they were going to possibly release. I"}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "said, \"Don't release that. It's"}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:53", "text": "ridiculous. It's not going to gain you"}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:57", "text": "any credibility. You guys cannot do"}, {"start": "02:32:53", "end": "02:32:59", "text": "that.\" And then we talked about"}, {"start": "02:32:57", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "I talked about you know Rua I talked"}, {"start": "02:32:59", "end": "02:33:04", "text": "about Vargia I talked about Sakoro I"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:06", "text": "talked about I was just like you know"}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "and and this and this and you guys know"}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:09", "text": "that you know ultimately what we're"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:11", "text": "dealing with is a certain percentage of"}, {"start": "02:33:09", "end": "02:33:14", "text": "these things is non-human intelligence"}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:16", "text": "and what's the plan to tell the public"}, {"start": "02:33:14", "end": "02:33:18", "text": "you know we're not going anywhere this"}, {"start": "02:33:16", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "this story is not going away what's the"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "plan"}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:26", "text": "and John Klesclowski the head of Arrow"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:30", "text": "right now goes goes, \"James,"}, {"start": "02:33:26", "end": "02:33:32", "text": "I can't part my hair without approval"}, {"start": "02:33:30", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "from the DoD"}, {"start": "02:33:32", "end": "02:33:36", "text": ">> and and you can quote me on that.\" So,"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:39", "text": "basically what he was saying is his"}, {"start": "02:33:36", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "hands are tied and it doesn't matter"}, {"start": "02:33:39", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "what he what he what he ultimately finds"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "or uncovers or learns, right? I'm"}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:53", "text": "convinced that, you know, they clearly"}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:55", "text": "found the the legacy. God, I could tell"}, {"start": "02:33:53", "end": "02:33:58", "text": "you another story, too. The legacy UAP"}, {"start": "02:33:55", "end": "02:34:00", "text": "crash retrieval program. Um,"}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:03", "text": ">> now you've got to tell the other story."}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I just, you know,"}, {"start": "02:34:03", "end": "02:34:06", "text": ">> Well, what is the plan, do you think,"}, {"start": "02:34:04", "end": "02:34:08", "text": "before you get into that?"}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:09", "text": ">> I think there are some people that want"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:11", "text": "it out and some people that don't want"}, {"start": "02:34:09", "end": "02:34:13", "text": "it out. And the people that are in"}, {"start": "02:34:11", "end": "02:34:16", "text": "possession of the goods"}, {"start": "02:34:13", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "don't want it out for the most part."}, {"start": "02:34:16", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "But I really think it's important that,"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:22", "text": "you know, the people in the UFO"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "community, I mean, we don't need the"}, {"start": "02:34:22", "end": "02:34:25", "text": "government against us. Everybody's"}, {"start": "02:34:24", "end": "02:34:27", "text": "bickering among each other, which is"}, {"start": "02:34:25", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "absurd. We should focus on a common"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:31", "text": "goal. But I'm really like pivoting to"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:32", "text": "the point where like I want to say to"}, {"start": "02:34:31", "end": "02:34:35", "text": "people, look, you don't have to believe"}, {"start": "02:34:32", "end": "02:34:36", "text": "Gush or Lou or Chris or whoever."}, {"start": "02:34:35", "end": "02:34:38", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:34:36", "end": "02:34:42", "text": ">> how about, you know, we call their bluff"}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:43", "text": "and we create, we help create, we help"}, {"start": "02:34:42", "end": "02:34:45", "text": "support Congress. Congress really needs"}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:46", "text": "to hear from you. like they've made that"}, {"start": "02:34:45", "end": "02:34:48", "text": "abundantly clear. We need to know that"}, {"start": "02:34:46", "end": "02:34:50", "text": "our constituents and other people that"}, {"start": "02:34:48", "end": "02:34:53", "text": "we have your support in put putting our"}, {"start": "02:34:50", "end": "02:34:55", "text": "necks out. But but to to figure out a"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "way how we can get immunity to the"}, {"start": "02:34:55", "end": "02:34:59", "text": "witnesses that want to come forward and"}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "how we can provide additional um witness"}, {"start": "02:34:59", "end": "02:35:03", "text": "whistleblower protections that's very"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:05", "text": "very important because there are threats"}, {"start": "02:35:03", "end": "02:35:07", "text": "people feel even if it's just their"}, {"start": "02:35:05", "end": "02:35:10", "text": "security clearance they lose that they"}, {"start": "02:35:07", "end": "02:35:12", "text": "have no job right so the threats have"}, {"start": "02:35:10", "end": "02:35:14", "text": "taken away their security clearance some"}, {"start": "02:35:12", "end": "02:35:16", "text": "people are concerned about their"}, {"start": "02:35:14", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "personal safety there's there's those"}, {"start": "02:35:16", "end": "02:35:22", "text": "issues um and they lose their job it's"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:23", "text": "like you know they lose the they can't"}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:25", "text": "support, they can't feed their family,"}, {"start": "02:35:23", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "you know. So it's like now they're"}, {"start": "02:35:25", "end": "02:35:31", "text": "talking about a fund that that we could"}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:34", "text": "put in place. Uh so if they do lose"}, {"start": "02:35:31", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "everything, they get financial"}, {"start": "02:35:34", "end": "02:35:37", "text": "compensation because and people are"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:38", "text": "like, \"Oh, well that's not really fair."}, {"start": "02:35:37", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "They're getting taxpayer dollars.\" It's"}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "like, well, if what they're saying is"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:44", "text": "true, that's the biggest story ever."}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:46", "text": "Everybody should have a right. I don't"}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:47", "text": "think, you know, that people would have"}, {"start": "02:35:46", "end": "02:35:49", "text": "that big of a problem with getting some"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "compensation to some of these"}, {"start": "02:35:49", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "potentially the most significant"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:55", "text": "witnesses in the history of mankind. So"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "anyway, these are all initiatives and"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "things that that I feel strongly that we"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:01", "text": "should we should um support"}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:03", "text": ">> and put pressure on"}, {"start": "02:36:01", "end": "02:36:04", "text": ">> whether you believe it or not. Like you"}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "might say like, \"Wow, what's this guy"}, {"start": "02:36:04", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "have to gain by coming forward?\" What"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:09", "text": "does David Grush have to gain? Quite"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "honestly, I don't really see anything."}, {"start": "02:36:09", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "He had to retire early. He didn't get"}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:14", "text": "any of his pension."}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:16", "text": ">> Yep. you know, like, you know, you got"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:18", "text": "all these threats and I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "02:36:16", "end": "02:36:20", "text": "know. I mean, call us bluff."}, {"start": "02:36:18", "end": "02:36:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I think the Pentagon walked back a"}, {"start": "02:36:20", "end": "02:36:23", "text": "lot of even what he said."}, {"start": "02:36:21", "end": "02:36:23", "text": ">> Oh, of course they did. That's what they"}, {"start": "02:36:23", "end": "02:36:27", "text": "do."}, {"start": "02:36:23", "end": "02:36:30", "text": ">> I don't Do you feel like it's a"}, {"start": "02:36:27", "end": "02:36:32", "text": "Is it a slow Are they preparing us for"}, {"start": "02:36:30", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "an actual disclosure? Is this a limited"}, {"start": "02:36:32", "end": "02:36:34", "text": "hangout or is it like, well, we'll give"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:37", "text": "them a little here. We'll give them a"}, {"start": "02:36:34", "end": "02:36:37", "text": "little."}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:43", "text": ">> I think it has to come. I mean, I just"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "come from we the people. We have to"}, {"start": "02:36:43", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "start really continuing the pressure."}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:49", "text": "It's one of the reasons why, you know,"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:50", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:36:49", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "I had to move mountains and walk on"}, {"start": "02:36:50", "end": "02:36:54", "text": "water. I told you earlier to do that"}, {"start": "02:36:51", "end": "02:36:55", "text": "event at the National Press Club and I'd"}, {"start": "02:36:54", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "love to see the government do something"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:36:58", "text": "like that. They're doing exactly the"}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:37:01", "text": "opposite. But it was really hard. Like"}, {"start": "02:36:58", "end": "02:37:03", "text": "we hired a PR firm. We had a former"}, {"start": "02:37:01", "end": "02:37:06", "text": "White House press secretary, assistant"}, {"start": "02:37:03", "end": "02:37:07", "text": "press secretary, all sending out the"}, {"start": "02:37:06", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "press conference, all the various news"}, {"start": "02:37:07", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "outlets. And you know, we had really"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:13", "text": "good attendance. We had a handful, very"}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:15", "text": "small hand. Well, we had a lot of"}, {"start": "02:37:13", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "cameras. There were influencers there,"}, {"start": "02:37:15", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "but only a handful of news outlets. I"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:22", "text": "mean, we did the best we could. You"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "know, we like I said at the time, I was"}, {"start": "02:37:22", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "like, it was a very solid base hit, but"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:29", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:31", "text": "you know, we had a story that was going"}, {"start": "02:37:29", "end": "02:37:33", "text": "to go out in a very big news"}, {"start": "02:37:31", "end": "02:37:35", "text": "organization. It would have been really"}, {"start": "02:37:33", "end": "02:37:38", "text": "historic. And uh and that got squashed"}, {"start": "02:37:35", "end": "02:37:39", "text": "at the last second to the point where we"}, {"start": "02:37:38", "end": "02:37:41", "text": "couldn't pivot to somebody else. And"}, {"start": "02:37:39", "end": "02:37:43", "text": "there's about closed door hearings. But"}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:45", "text": "there is a again I'll remind your"}, {"start": "02:37:43", "end": "02:37:46", "text": "audience there's there's a great story"}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:48", "text": "out in the debrief by Liza Kane and"}, {"start": "02:37:46", "end": "02:37:50", "text": "Ralph Blumenthal. Go check it out. It's"}, {"start": "02:37:48", "end": "02:37:52", "text": "free. It's online. It's got photographs,"}, {"start": "02:37:50", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "details of the meetings."}, {"start": "02:37:52", "end": "02:37:57", "text": ">> Um yeah, it's it's it's good. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:37:59", "text": ">> Well, I think you're doing the right"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "thing by doing the podcast circuit"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:03", "text": "because these shows we have a larger"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:05", "text": "audience than the major news outlets."}, {"start": "02:38:03", "end": "02:38:09", "text": "You're speaking directly to people now."}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:10", "text": "You know, it's like I started thinking"}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:12", "text": "about it and I was like, we don't even"}, {"start": "02:38:10", "end": "02:38:13", "text": "really need the mainstream media"}, {"start": "02:38:12", "end": "02:38:14", "text": "anymore. We're just going straight to"}, {"start": "02:38:13", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "the people."}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:17", "text": ">> James, this is the mainstream media."}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:19", "text": ">> I know. It's crazy, right? I know. It's"}, {"start": "02:38:17", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "It's nuts. I was hanging out with this"}, {"start": "02:38:19", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "guy the other day"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:23", "text": ">> and um he's like, \"Yeah, man. I got 10"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:26", "text": "million followers.\" I was like, \"You"}, {"start": "02:38:23", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "have 10 million followers?\""}, {"start": "02:38:26", "end": "02:38:28", "text": ">> I know. Eat your heart. Eat your heart"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:28", "text": "out."}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:31", "text": ">> Unbelievable."}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Unbelievable. And then um then I"}, {"start": "02:38:31", "end": "02:38:35", "text": "was you know podcast coverage that's"}, {"start": "02:38:33", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "happening right now in Brazil. Right now"}, {"start": "02:38:35", "end": "02:38:40", "text": "in Brazil 22.8 million followers."}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:43", "text": "Another one 30 million followers. Like"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "that's a significant amount of people"}, {"start": "02:38:43", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "that you have outreach to. You know look"}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:47", "text": "at Rogan."}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:48", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:38:47", "end": "02:38:48", "text": ">> You know you guys."}, {"start": "02:38:48", "end": "02:38:50", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:38:48", "end": "02:38:52", "text": ">> It's extremely impressive and that we're"}, {"start": "02:38:50", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "doing it organically. We're doing it"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:56", "text": "grassroots. We're doing it we the"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:38:57", "text": "people. You know, that's why I was"}, {"start": "02:38:56", "end": "02:38:59", "text": "telling you earlier, I really"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:02", "text": "appreciate, you know, I I I appreciate"}, {"start": "02:38:59", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "the support and I'm not asking anyone to"}, {"start": "02:39:02", "end": "02:39:06", "text": "categorically believe this happened, but"}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:09", "text": "but hey, how about support for"}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "additional investigation? How about Wow,"}, {"start": "02:39:09", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "there's a lot of really compelling"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:13", "text": "eyewitness testimony. Let's dig a little"}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:14", "text": "further."}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:16", "text": ">> There is. You're a very important"}, {"start": "02:39:14", "end": "02:39:18", "text": "person. Um there I have two things I"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:19", "text": "want to get to before we let you go, but"}, {"start": "02:39:18", "end": "02:39:21", "text": "it when you were talking about the"}, {"start": "02:39:19", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "skiff, you said, \"Oh, I can tell you"}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "another story.\" Do you remember what"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:25", "text": "that was?"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:39:25", "end": "02:39:29", "text": "It was it was such a tease."}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:30", "text": ">> Okay. Well, so how can I tell you"}, {"start": "02:39:29", "end": "02:39:31", "text": "without revealing this person's"}, {"start": "02:39:30", "end": "02:39:34", "text": "identity?"}, {"start": "02:39:31", "end": "02:39:36", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "02:39:34", "end": "02:39:38", "text": "their position, what their role."}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:39", "text": ">> No, if I do that, that'll that'll give a"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:40", "text": "dead giveaway. Um"}, {"start": "02:39:39", "end": "02:39:44", "text": ">> then just tell the story."}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:44", "text": ">> Okay. Well,"}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:51", "text": "so when I investigated Sakora New Mexico"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "case, I was, you know, I really I do a"}, {"start": "02:39:51", "end": "02:39:56", "text": "deep dive like I, you know, you look at"}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:39:58", "text": "someone like Richard Dolan or or Stanton"}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "Freriedman or, you know, some of these"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:04", "text": "really serious, you know, researchers"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:06", "text": "and authors of very detailed books and"}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:08", "text": "their"}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:09", "text": "historical perspective was like a"}, {"start": "02:40:08", "end": "02:40:11", "text": "walk-in encyclopedia. I mean, these guys"}, {"start": "02:40:09", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "are incredible."}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:16", "text": "I am extremely familiar with a handful"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:18", "text": "of cases that I personally have"}, {"start": "02:40:16", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "investigated, boots on the ground in"}, {"start": "02:40:18", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "Africa or China or wherever the hell I"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:26", "text": "am, South America. And I and I stick my"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "teeth into a case minimum 5 years,"}, {"start": "02:40:26", "end": "02:40:32", "text": "sometimes 10, sometimes 20, whatever."}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "And um I was investigating the Sakoro"}, {"start": "02:40:32", "end": "02:40:38", "text": "case and I got to know his wife Mary,"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:40", "text": "his daughter Diane, his son Michael, his"}, {"start": "02:40:38", "end": "02:40:42", "text": "co-workers. This is all over a 5-year"}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:46", "text": "period."}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:49", "text": "And every time I came to Sakuro and"}, {"start": "02:40:46", "end": "02:40:51", "text": "particularly to Mary's Zamora's house,"}, {"start": "02:40:49", "end": "02:40:54", "text": "I'd see this beautiful white Ford pickup"}, {"start": "02:40:51", "end": "02:40:56", "text": "truck parked out in front, flat tires,"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "hood popped a jar, whole cabin filled"}, {"start": "02:40:56", "end": "02:41:02", "text": "with garbage, bullet hole through the"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:07", "text": "cab. Uh back they had a beautiful truck"}, {"start": "02:41:02", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "though. It had It was a stepside 1972,"}, {"start": "02:41:07", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "I think. 72 wooden bed, but it was kind"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:13", "text": "of rotted out, but nice. I mean, the"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "body was in pretty good shape. It didn't"}, {"start": "02:41:13", "end": "02:41:16", "text": "have any really rust cuz it was in a dry"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:18", "text": "desert environment. I kept looking at"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:21", "text": "that truck. I'm like, damn, that thing"}, {"start": "02:41:18", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "is gorgeous. Needs work, but wow. Long"}, {"start": "02:41:21", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "story short,"}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:25", "text": "I bought the truck off Mary."}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:41:25", "end": "02:41:28", "text": ">> Uh-huh."}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:30", "text": ">> And I've been slowly fixing it up and"}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:32", "text": "and it runs great. I after 5 years, I"}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "put it I had the engine rebuilt, but"}, {"start": "02:41:32", "end": "02:41:37", "text": "it's the same engine 360 big block."}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:38", "text": ">> 72 what? Oh, Ford F100. Okay."}, {"start": "02:41:37", "end": "02:41:41", "text": ">> F100."}, {"start": "02:41:38", "end": "02:41:43", "text": ">> And uh I I got all the wood um for the"}, {"start": "02:41:41", "end": "02:41:45", "text": "bed and I I was under under that thing"}, {"start": "02:41:43", "end": "02:41:46", "text": "for like weeks with the sawsaw because I"}, {"start": "02:41:45", "end": "02:41:48", "text": "was working on it, you know, as much"}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:50", "text": "time as I had during the production of"}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:51", "text": "the phenomenon. And I was under the"}, {"start": "02:41:50", "end": "02:41:53", "text": "truck with the sawzaw cutting all the"}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:55", "text": "little nuts off. They were all frozen"}, {"start": "02:41:53", "end": "02:41:58", "text": "and it was raining down like I I should"}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:42:00", "text": "have had goggles on. And I and I put new"}, {"start": "02:41:58", "end": "02:42:03", "text": "wood in the bed with a buddy of mine,"}, {"start": "02:42:00", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "Mike Aken."}, {"start": "02:42:03", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "And uh it was funny because I ordered"}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:09", "text": "the kit and then I put it all. It was a"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:11", "text": "huge undertaking. My god, that was"}, {"start": "02:42:09", "end": "02:42:14", "text": "difficult. We had to paint it with like"}, {"start": "02:42:11", "end": "02:42:15", "text": "marine based uh you know, lac lacquer,"}, {"start": "02:42:14", "end": "02:42:18", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "02:42:15", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "Anyway, uh and the metal strips in"}, {"start": "02:42:18", "end": "02:42:21", "text": "between the wood started rusting out"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "within a week or two. And so I was like,"}, {"start": "02:42:21", "end": "02:42:25", "text": "\"What the hell, man? I just all this I"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:26", "text": "mean, okay, it's a truck and it's"}, {"start": "02:42:25", "end": "02:42:28", "text": "outside, but I just did this. Like, come"}, {"start": "02:42:26", "end": "02:42:29", "text": "on.\" So I contacted the company and"}, {"start": "02:42:28", "end": "02:42:30", "text": "they're like, \"Wow, you know, you didn't"}, {"start": "02:42:29", "end": "02:42:32", "text": "ask for the stainless.\" I was like,"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:33", "text": "\"Well, you guys didn't even give me an"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:35", "text": "option.\" I'm like, \"How do I supposed to"}, {"start": "02:42:33", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "know?\" So anyway, so I'm slowly fixing"}, {"start": "02:42:35", "end": "02:42:39", "text": "the truck up. I had the original seat"}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "reupholstered. The guy was like, \"This"}, {"start": "02:42:39", "end": "02:42:42", "text": "was really challenging. I had to rebuild"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:43", "text": "all the springs and I got a new"}, {"start": "02:42:42", "end": "02:42:45", "text": "dashboard cuz you could poke your finger"}, {"start": "02:42:43", "end": "02:42:46", "text": "the dashboard from the hot sun.\""}, {"start": "02:42:45", "end": "02:42:49", "text": "Seriously, just poke your finger right"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:51", "text": "through. I did the headliner and the"}, {"start": "02:42:49", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "floor carpeting myself and I did a"}, {"start": "02:42:51", "end": "02:42:53", "text": "terrible job. I didn't get that done."}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:57", "text": "But for overall and had the engine"}, {"start": "02:42:53", "end": "02:43:01", "text": "rebuilt, it's a beautiful truck. So,"}, {"start": "02:42:57", "end": "02:43:03", "text": "uh, I had an individual come that's"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "investigated UFOs in an official"}, {"start": "02:43:03", "end": "02:43:07", "text": "capacity for the United States"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:10", "text": "government from 2017 to 2020, whatever"}, {"start": "02:43:07", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "the hell."}, {"start": "02:43:10", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "And uh,"}, {"start": "02:43:14", "end": "02:43:17", "text": "we took my truck out to dinner because I"}, {"start": "02:43:16", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "don't know, for some reason I didn't"}, {"start": "02:43:17", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "have the other car. My partner Rebecca"}, {"start": "02:43:20", "end": "02:43:23", "text": "might have taken him. I was like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "I just got this truck.\" He's, you know,"}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:28", "text": "he's like, \"Oh, I love old trucks.\" you"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "know, and you this is great. It was"}, {"start": "02:43:28", "end": "02:43:30", "text": "really cool cuz just like this is Long"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:32", "text": "Morris truck, you know, we're driving"}, {"start": "02:43:30", "end": "02:43:35", "text": "this old 72 truck out these country"}, {"start": "02:43:32", "end": "02:43:39", "text": "roads and we go out to a lovely dinner."}, {"start": "02:43:35", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "We have some drinks and uh and"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:43", "text": "afterwards, you know, we kind of loosen"}, {"start": "02:43:41", "end": "02:43:46", "text": "up a little bit."}, {"start": "02:43:43", "end": "02:43:49", "text": "We go back to drop this individual off"}, {"start": "02:43:46", "end": "02:43:52", "text": "at his at his hotel"}, {"start": "02:43:49", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "02:43:52", "end": "02:43:55", "text": "get to the hotel"}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:43:57", "text": "and it's dark. I don't have a cabin"}, {"start": "02:43:55", "end": "02:43:59", "text": "light. I don't have it. It It does work,"}, {"start": "02:43:57", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "but the doors are closed. It's dark. We"}, {"start": "02:43:59", "end": "02:44:02", "text": "park in front of the hotel and the door"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:04", "text": "guy or the valet door guy comes out."}, {"start": "02:44:02", "end": "02:44:06", "text": "He's like, \"Hey, can I get you?\" I said,"}, {"start": "02:44:04", "end": "02:44:08", "text": "\"Oh, no. I'm just dropping him off.\" And"}, {"start": "02:44:06", "end": "02:44:11", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "02:44:08", "end": "02:44:13", "text": "and he left. The engine's off, lights"}, {"start": "02:44:11", "end": "02:44:15", "text": "are out. It's pretty dark. There a"}, {"start": "02:44:13", "end": "02:44:17", "text": "little bit of light coming from the"}, {"start": "02:44:15", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "hotel, but we were pretty far away. So,"}, {"start": "02:44:17", "end": "02:44:21", "text": "it was like almost like just silhouetted"}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "a little bit inside the cabin. It was"}, {"start": "02:44:21", "end": "02:44:27", "text": "dark."}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:30", "text": "We had a whispered conversation."}, {"start": "02:44:27", "end": "02:44:32", "text": "And it was like"}, {"start": "02:44:30", "end": "02:44:36", "text": "that moment when maybe you're on a date"}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:38", "text": "and you drop, you know, you you drop the"}, {"start": "02:44:36", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "girl off or the guy, whatever, and"}, {"start": "02:44:38", "end": "02:44:42", "text": "there's an awkward moment where you're"}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:44", "text": "not sure like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:44:42", "end": "02:44:45", "text": ">> where we should come. Do I go, you know,"}, {"start": "02:44:44", "end": "02:44:46", "text": "you invited me in or whatever."}, {"start": "02:44:45", "end": "02:44:48", "text": ">> Worst moment ever."}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:49", "text": ">> You know what I mean? Like that awkward"}, {"start": "02:44:48", "end": "02:44:50", "text": "little moment, you know? But it was kind"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:52", "text": "of like that. I was like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "02:44:50", "end": "02:44:56", "text": "well, are you getting out or do I, you"}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:57", "text": "know, are you, you know, and just"}, {"start": "02:44:56", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "silhouettes?\" It was like a scene out of"}, {"start": "02:44:57", "end": "02:45:01", "text": "a movie. I'll never forget it so long as"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:05", "text": "I live. Just silhouettes in the truck."}, {"start": "02:45:01", "end": "02:45:08", "text": "Dark. And it was like, \"We found the"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:10", "text": "legacy program.\""}, {"start": "02:45:08", "end": "02:45:12", "text": "I was like, \"Fuck."}, {"start": "02:45:10", "end": "02:45:13", "text": "Yeah, we found it.\""}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:15", "text": "And it was like, you know, and then some"}, {"start": "02:45:13", "end": "02:45:16", "text": "more details. And I just sat there"}, {"start": "02:45:15", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "quietly going,"}, {"start": "02:45:16", "end": "02:45:22", "text": ">> can't tell us the details? Nope. Ah,"}, {"start": "02:45:19", "end": "02:45:24", "text": ">> no. I can't. I just can't."}, {"start": "02:45:22", "end": "02:45:26", "text": ">> Why do we call that legacy program? Did"}, {"start": "02:45:24", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "that end or legacy program? I guess"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:29", "text": "because it's been going on for such a"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:31", "text": "long period of time, I guess."}, {"start": "02:45:29", "end": "02:45:33", "text": ">> But is that the still ongoing program or"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:36", "text": ">> I guess it would be. I I'm assuming."}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:40", "text": "Yeah, definitely. Uh-huh. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:43", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, Senator uh Rubio,"}, {"start": "02:45:40", "end": "02:45:44", "text": "he talks about I mean, you know, you"}, {"start": "02:45:43", "end": "02:45:46", "text": "read between the lines. I mean the"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "latest cut of moment of contact we have"}, {"start": "02:45:46", "end": "02:45:53", "text": "Senator Rubio on news nation saying that"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:54", "text": "you know extremely credible people"}, {"start": "02:45:53", "end": "02:45:55", "text": "firsthand you know claimed to be"}, {"start": "02:45:54", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "firsthand working on the stuff the"}, {"start": "02:45:55", "end": "02:46:00", "text": "legacy program like I mean very like wow"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:01", "text": "you know what I mean it's happening it's"}, {"start": "02:46:00", "end": "02:46:02", "text": "amazing how many people are not paying"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:05", "text": "attention you know all the congressional"}, {"start": "02:46:02", "end": "02:46:06", "text": "hearings how many people even know you"}, {"start": "02:46:05", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "had four congressional hearings"}, {"start": "02:46:06", "end": "02:46:10", "text": ">> no very few"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:13", "text": ">> it's just so it's so incredible to me"}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "you know that more people aren't like I"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:17", "text": "know that Life's tough and you know"}, {"start": "02:46:15", "end": "02:46:21", "text": "we're working and paying bills. You"}, {"start": "02:46:17", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "know, I get all that, but this I can't"}, {"start": "02:46:21", "end": "02:46:26", "text": "believe more news outlets aren't"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:28", "text": "focusing on this. Like we got, you know,"}, {"start": "02:46:26", "end": "02:46:30", "text": "president, you know, sexual, excuse me,"}, {"start": "02:46:28", "end": "02:46:32", "text": "pecadillos, like, you know, they put so"}, {"start": "02:46:30", "end": "02:46:34", "text": "many resources into it like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:46:32", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "whether it's Trump or Clinton or"}, {"start": "02:46:34", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "whatever, like they're just fixated and"}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "like millions of dollars like, you know"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:39", "text": "what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:43", "text": ">> I think it's intentional. Then you've"}, {"start": "02:46:39", "end": "02:46:44", "text": "got like what could be the biggest story"}, {"start": "02:46:43", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "in history and no and they're not doing"}, {"start": "02:46:44", "end": "02:46:46", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:48", "text": ">> I think they want us fighting about"}, {"start": "02:46:46", "end": "02:46:49", "text": "politics because that way we don't see"}, {"start": "02:46:48", "end": "02:46:52", "text": "what's going over here."}, {"start": "02:46:49", "end": "02:46:54", "text": ">> 60 Minutes finally does a little thing"}, {"start": "02:46:52", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "on UFOs. I'm told it was the most"}, {"start": "02:46:54", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "popular thing they've ever done. I I'm"}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "pretty sure if it's not number one, it"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:01", "text": "was number two. Most popular thing"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "they've ever done. Okay."}, {"start": "02:47:01", "end": "02:47:05", "text": ">> New York Times 2017. One of the most"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:06", "text": "popular stories they've ever gone to"}, {"start": "02:47:05", "end": "02:47:06", "text": "print."}, {"start": "02:47:06", "end": "02:47:08", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:47:06", "end": "02:47:11", "text": ">> Do you not recognize that New York Times"}, {"start": "02:47:08", "end": "02:47:14", "text": "and CBS? Hello. Like, what are you guys"}, {"start": "02:47:11", "end": "02:47:16", "text": "doing? Do some digging. Is it take"}, {"start": "02:47:14", "end": "02:47:19", "text": "people like me to do to do your guys'"}, {"start": "02:47:16", "end": "02:47:22", "text": "work? Like, really? Could you imagine if"}, {"start": "02:47:19", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "we had the full force of like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:47:22", "end": "02:47:26", "text": "media to take this seriously and really"}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:29", "text": "stick their teeth into it and all the"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:31", "text": "financial like come on, man. I'm I used"}, {"start": "02:47:29", "end": "02:47:34", "text": "to be not convinced about the connection"}, {"start": "02:47:31", "end": "02:47:35", "text": "between mainstream and like DoD"}, {"start": "02:47:34", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "intelligence, the influence there, but"}, {"start": "02:47:35", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "now I'm like"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:40", "text": ">> that's all it's all wrapped up."}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:40", "text": ">> It's got to be connected."}, {"start": "02:47:40", "end": "02:47:42", "text": ">> Of course,"}, {"start": "02:47:40", "end": "02:47:45", "text": ">> it just kind of has to be. I mean, I I"}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:46", "text": "don't want to, you know, it just it"}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:47", "text": "feels that way."}, {"start": "02:47:46", "end": "02:47:49", "text": ">> Yeah, it has to come from out of here."}, {"start": "02:47:47", "end": "02:47:51", "text": ">> It feels that way. And it might be just"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:52", "text": "as simple as like, hey, you know, all"}, {"start": "02:47:51", "end": "02:47:54", "text": "those connections and stories that were"}, {"start": "02:47:52", "end": "02:47:56", "text": "feeding you, yeah, you just go ahead and"}, {"start": "02:47:54", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "leave this to the side, otherwise we're"}, {"start": "02:47:56", "end": "02:47:59", "text": "done. You know, and someone needs to"}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:01", "text": "grow a pair and just start and do it."}, {"start": "02:47:59", "end": "02:48:02", "text": "Just do it. The support would be"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:04", "text": "incredible."}, {"start": "02:48:02", "end": "02:48:05", "text": ">> Yeah. But they'd have to do it really"}, {"start": "02:48:04", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "publicly because these people do"}, {"start": "02:48:05", "end": "02:48:08", "text": "disappear."}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:11", "text": ">> Well, they would be doing Well, yeah."}, {"start": "02:48:08", "end": "02:48:12", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I know."}, {"start": "02:48:11", "end": "02:48:13", "text": ">> That's kind of that's kind of freaky,"}, {"start": "02:48:12", "end": "02:48:16", "text": "too."}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:18", "text": ">> Tell me about um about Gary McKinnon,"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:20", "text": "his story, what you think about him."}, {"start": "02:48:18", "end": "02:48:21", "text": ">> I love that guy."}, {"start": "02:48:20", "end": "02:48:24", "text": ">> He's amazing."}, {"start": "02:48:21", "end": "02:48:26", "text": ">> He was great. I finally got to meet him"}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:27", "text": "and he's in the program as well. Did you"}, {"start": "02:48:26", "end": "02:48:27", "text": "see the program?"}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:29", "text": ">> I did."}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:30", "text": ">> Well, you could also watch that for free"}, {"start": "02:48:29", "end": "02:48:32", "text": "on YouTube movies."}, {"start": "02:48:30", "end": "02:48:33", "text": ">> Stop saying for free. Go"}, {"start": "02:48:32", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "support your work."}, {"start": "02:48:33", "end": "02:48:36", "text": ">> It's a great platform. They've got 300"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:36", "text": "million whatever followers and it's a"}, {"start": "02:48:36", "end": "02:48:38", "text": "great platform."}, {"start": "02:48:36", "end": "02:48:40", "text": ">> Your work needs support."}, {"start": "02:48:38", "end": "02:48:43", "text": ">> Anyway, so"}, {"start": "02:48:40", "end": "02:48:46", "text": "um somebody got in touch. Somebody"}, {"start": "02:48:43", "end": "02:48:47", "text": "somebody I knew knew him. I wish I could"}, {"start": "02:48:46", "end": "02:48:48", "text": "remember who that person was, but"}, {"start": "02:48:47", "end": "02:48:51", "text": ">> give us a quick recap on on what Gary"}, {"start": "02:48:48", "end": "02:48:52", "text": "did with NASA."}, {"start": "02:48:51", "end": "02:48:54", "text": ">> One second. Because it catapulted in the"}, {"start": "02:48:52", "end": "02:48:55", "text": "mainstream in the late 90s, early 2000s,"}, {"start": "02:48:54", "end": "02:48:57", "text": "I think it was. Oh my god. It was"}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:48:59", "text": "everywhere. He was in the news. The"}, {"start": "02:48:57", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "presidents were talking about him. All"}, {"start": "02:48:59", "end": "02:49:02", "text": "the prime minister"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:04", "text": ">> prime minister was talking about him"}, {"start": "02:49:02", "end": "02:49:05", "text": ">> and uh always but he was way too"}, {"start": "02:49:04", "end": "02:49:07", "text": "inundated at the time. They were making"}, {"start": "02:49:05", "end": "02:49:10", "text": "songs about him. He was working with all"}, {"start": "02:49:07", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "these famous art news musicians. It was"}, {"start": "02:49:10", "end": "02:49:16", "text": "incredible. Free Gary McKinnon. So"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:18", "text": "somebody reaches out to him. He hears my"}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:20", "text": "name and he's like gets right in touch"}, {"start": "02:49:18", "end": "02:49:23", "text": "with me and he's like, \"Oh my god, my"}, {"start": "02:49:20", "end": "02:49:25", "text": "hero.\" I'm like, \"Dude, me? What? you"}, {"start": "02:49:23", "end": "02:49:28", "text": "like, you know, we're both super stoked,"}, {"start": "02:49:25", "end": "02:49:32", "text": "you know. So, Gary McKinnon"}, {"start": "02:49:28", "end": "02:49:37", "text": ">> based on probably the uh one of the"}, {"start": "02:49:32", "end": "02:49:39", "text": "claims from a NASA alleg sort of a NASA"}, {"start": "02:49:37", "end": "02:49:40", "text": "employee"}, {"start": "02:49:39", "end": "02:49:43", "text": "uh don't remember the woman's name, but"}, {"start": "02:49:40", "end": "02:49:46", "text": "he she had testified at 2001 press"}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:48", "text": "conference that uh Dr. Steven Greer had"}, {"start": "02:49:46", "end": "02:49:50", "text": "done and she basically gave a specific"}, {"start": "02:49:48", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "location where photographs are, you"}, {"start": "02:49:50", "end": "02:49:53", "text": "know, manipulated from NASA that show,"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:54", "text": "you know, UFOs."}, {"start": "02:49:53", "end": "02:49:57", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:49:54", "end": "02:49:59", "text": ">> Excuse me. So, he was like,"}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:01", "text": "you know, I'm going to go find out. So,"}, {"start": "02:49:59", "end": "02:50:02", "text": "he he started hacking."}, {"start": "02:50:01", "end": "02:50:04", "text": ">> Excuse me."}, {"start": "02:50:02", "end": "02:50:06", "text": ">> Now, hold on. He didn't He just found"}, {"start": "02:50:04", "end": "02:50:08", "text": "computers that with access. He didn't"}, {"start": "02:50:06", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "like illegally."}, {"start": "02:50:08", "end": "02:50:12", "text": "I'm trying to I'm trying to help Gary"}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:15", "text": "out. I'm trying to help Gary out."}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:16", "text": ">> He'll admit this now. Yeah, it's water"}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:17", "text": "out of the"}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:17", "text": ">> Is he in the clear?"}, {"start": "02:50:17", "end": "02:50:19", "text": ">> He's in the clear now"}, {"start": "02:50:17", "end": "02:50:20", "text": ">> cuz Obama wanted his neck."}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:23", "text": ">> I know. They couldn't have They could"}, {"start": "02:50:20", "end": "02:50:26", "text": "not have"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:27", "text": ">> um Okay. Well, okay. Let me get into the"}, {"start": "02:50:26", "end": "02:50:28", "text": "story real quick and I I'll just go into"}, {"start": "02:50:27", "end": "02:50:31", "text": "it. It's one of the biggest computer"}, {"start": "02:50:28", "end": "02:50:32", "text": "hacks allegedly in history. And he said"}, {"start": "02:50:31", "end": "02:50:34", "text": "that I think it went on for a while. I"}, {"start": "02:50:32", "end": "02:50:36", "text": "don't know if it was a year or two"}, {"start": "02:50:34", "end": "02:50:37", "text": "years. I can't remember. It was a while."}, {"start": "02:50:36", "end": "02:50:39", "text": "And he goes, \"You know, I was going"}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:41", "text": "through I would go and he talks about it"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:42", "text": "like it's like, oh yeah, it's like, you"}, {"start": "02:50:41", "end": "02:50:44", "text": "know, walk in the park.\" He was like,"}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:46", "text": "\"Of course, you just, you know, I was"}, {"start": "02:50:44", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "like I was like yeah maybe easy to you"}, {"start": "02:50:46", "end": "02:50:49", "text": "but somebody like me I don't know what"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:51", "text": "that you're talking gibberish I don't"}, {"start": "02:50:49", "end": "02:50:52", "text": "know what you but he'd go through these"}, {"start": "02:50:51", "end": "02:50:55", "text": "servers in the states from different you"}, {"start": "02:50:52", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "know maybe a library or whatever right"}, {"start": "02:50:55", "end": "02:50:58", "text": "and he would so that would be the"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:51:00", "text": "signals and that would it would end"}, {"start": "02:50:58", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "there so and then he'd go from there and"}, {"start": "02:51:00", "end": "02:51:07", "text": "he'd go into like NASA NSA CIA whatever"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "and he goes he started getting lazy and"}, {"start": "02:51:07", "end": "02:51:11", "text": "just going around and going straight and"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:13", "text": "he got into something at Johnson Space"}, {"start": "02:51:11", "end": "02:51:15", "text": "Center I think it was kind of where the"}, {"start": "02:51:13", "end": "02:51:18", "text": "woman said that these things the these"}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "things would be and he was on dialup"}, {"start": "02:51:18", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "and he hit pay dirt and he said there"}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:25", "text": "was this cylindrical interestingly"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "enough"}, {"start": "02:51:25", "end": "02:51:28", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:29", "text": ">> cigar- shaped craft."}, {"start": "02:51:28", "end": "02:51:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:51:29", "end": "02:51:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Cylindrical shaped craft in like"}, {"start": "02:51:33", "end": "02:51:36", "text": "outer space. He goes, \"It could have"}, {"start": "02:51:35", "end": "02:51:37", "text": "been the Earth. I think it was the"}, {"start": "02:51:36", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "Earth, but I couldn't say for sure."}, {"start": "02:51:37", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "There was the clouds blah blah blah but"}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "it was"}, {"start": "02:51:42", "end": "02:51:45", "text": "just coming down coming down and he was"}, {"start": "02:51:44", "end": "02:51:48", "text": "just sitting there with baited breath"}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:51", "text": "going oh my god this is like oh this is"}, {"start": "02:51:48", "end": "02:51:54", "text": "my eure we called it his eureka moment"}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:55", "text": "and he goes I was like oh my gosh and"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:51:57", "text": "it's just like this cylindrical shaped"}, {"start": "02:51:55", "end": "02:52:01", "text": "thing he goes it clearly had no he's"}, {"start": "02:51:57", "end": "02:52:03", "text": "like it was otherworld you know and then"}, {"start": "02:52:01", "end": "02:52:06", "text": "it I think it was going down going down"}, {"start": "02:52:03", "end": "02:52:07", "text": "going down going down and then the"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:08", "text": "cursor moved moved."}, {"start": "02:52:07", "end": "02:52:09", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:12", "text": ">> And the screen went blank. And he's"}, {"start": "02:52:09", "end": "02:52:16", "text": "like, it was my Eureka moment and also"}, {"start": "02:52:12", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "my What have I just done? Like I"}, {"start": "02:52:16", "end": "02:52:20", "text": "don't know how long it was that he woke"}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:21", "text": "up to Men in Suits over his bed in"}, {"start": "02:52:20", "end": "02:52:22", "text": "London."}, {"start": "02:52:21", "end": "02:52:23", "text": ">> Over his bed."}, {"start": "02:52:22", "end": "02:52:25", "text": ">> Over his bed."}, {"start": "02:52:23", "end": "02:52:27", "text": ">> I didn't know that."}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:29", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "02:52:27", "end": "02:52:30", "text": ">> Yeah. And then it was like"}, {"start": "02:52:29", "end": "02:52:31", "text": ">> And they took him into custody, didn't"}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:34", "text": "they?"}, {"start": "02:52:31", "end": "02:52:36", "text": ">> Oh, are you kidding me? They wanted to"}, {"start": "02:52:34", "end": "02:52:37", "text": "extradite him and lock him up for 70"}, {"start": "02:52:36", "end": "02:52:38", "text": "years. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:52:37", "end": "02:52:41", "text": ">> 60 or 70 years."}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:42", "text": ">> Now, I think, and this is speculation,"}, {"start": "02:52:41", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "and Gary might agree with this, I don't"}, {"start": "02:52:42", "end": "02:52:51", "text": "know. Um, I think that"}, {"start": "02:52:48", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "ultimately, cuz the the British and the"}, {"start": "02:52:51", "end": "02:52:55", "text": "and the Americans go along generally"}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:57", "text": "together, I think that ultimately the"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "Americans"}, {"start": "02:52:57", "end": "02:53:01", "text": "uh they wanted to extradite him"}, {"start": "02:52:58", "end": "02:53:04", "text": "publicly,"}, {"start": "02:53:01", "end": "02:53:06", "text": "but had that happened, he would have had"}, {"start": "02:53:04", "end": "02:53:09", "text": "due process. It would have been a big"}, {"start": "02:53:06", "end": "02:53:11", "text": "spectacle and the de the re there would"}, {"start": "02:53:09", "end": "02:53:13", "text": "have been a revelation of everything"}, {"start": "02:53:11", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "that he saw in a very public court case."}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:17", "text": ">> He has to tell his side."}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:19", "text": ">> So this is just again this is me"}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:21", "text": "speculating here that you know the may"}, {"start": "02:53:19", "end": "02:53:22", "text": "the Americans said to the British, hey"}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "look, we're going to push for his"}, {"start": "02:53:22", "end": "02:53:26", "text": "extradition. You're going to deny it cuz"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:28", "text": "we don't want a big public hearing cuz"}, {"start": "02:53:26", "end": "02:53:30", "text": "that's what it'll be. He was everywhere"}, {"start": "02:53:28", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "in the news. Look, anybody just Google"}, {"start": "02:53:30", "end": "02:53:34", "text": "Gary McKinnon. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:35", "text": ">> Yeah. So they ultimately denied him, but"}, {"start": "02:53:34", "end": "02:53:36", "text": "he said he was ready to take his own"}, {"start": "02:53:35", "end": "02:53:37", "text": "life."}, {"start": "02:53:36", "end": "02:53:39", "text": ">> He did."}, {"start": "02:53:37", "end": "02:53:41", "text": ">> Yes, he did. He's like, I'm not going to"}, {"start": "02:53:39", "end": "02:53:43", "text": "go rot in a prison for the next 65"}, {"start": "02:53:41", "end": "02:53:45", "text": "years. But he was already I think he had"}, {"start": "02:53:43", "end": "02:53:46", "text": "I think he had the he had he knew how he"}, {"start": "02:53:45", "end": "02:53:49", "text": "was going to do it. He's like, yeah, I"}, {"start": "02:53:46", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "was going to take my own life. I'm not"}, {"start": "02:53:49", "end": "02:53:51", "text": "going to go sit in prison for 60 years."}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:52", "text": "Hell no."}, {"start": "02:53:51", "end": "02:53:54", "text": ">> Did he talk to you about the uh the list"}, {"start": "02:53:52", "end": "02:53:56", "text": "that he found about the offspace fleet?"}, {"start": "02:53:54", "end": "02:53:58", "text": ">> Yeah, he talked about uh they were"}, {"start": "02:53:56", "end": "02:53:58", "text": "non-aterrestrial"}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:02", "text": "officers."}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:05", "text": ">> Yes. And it's funny actually because"}, {"start": "02:54:02", "end": "02:54:08", "text": "and again speculation here. I started"}, {"start": "02:54:05", "end": "02:54:12", "text": "thinking about the alleged encounter at"}, {"start": "02:54:08", "end": "02:54:15", "text": "Nellis test range in the in 1994 of this"}, {"start": "02:54:12", "end": "02:54:18", "text": "non-aterrestrial officer. He's in"}, {"start": "02:54:15", "end": "02:54:20", "text": "officer gear. He's got he's clearly not"}, {"start": "02:54:18", "end": "02:54:21", "text": "of this planet"}, {"start": "02:54:20", "end": "02:54:25", "text": "so-called."}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:26", "text": ">> Um I it did make me think of him and it"}, {"start": "02:54:25", "end": "02:54:26", "text": "did make me think of him. Do you know"}, {"start": "02:54:26", "end": "02:54:29", "text": "what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:54:26", "end": "02:54:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Because"}, {"start": "02:54:29", "end": "02:54:34", "text": "I don't know. I was like, is that what"}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:36", "text": "they're referring to? Non-aterrestrial"}, {"start": "02:54:34", "end": "02:54:37", "text": "officers or are they talking about"}, {"start": "02:54:36", "end": "02:54:39", "text": "astronauts?"}, {"start": "02:54:37", "end": "02:54:40", "text": ">> Well, they had names."}, {"start": "02:54:39", "end": "02:54:42", "text": ">> Yeah, you did. Yeah, I don't think he"}, {"start": "02:54:40", "end": "02:54:43", "text": "remembered those names, but yeah. Uh"}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:45", "text": "yeah, I don't I don't know. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "02:54:43", "end": "02:54:47", "text": "don't know if you remembered all that,"}, {"start": "02:54:45", "end": "02:54:49", "text": "but anyway, it's a fascinating"}, {"start": "02:54:47", "end": "02:54:52", "text": "fascinating case. Fascinating case. And"}, {"start": "02:54:49", "end": "02:54:53", "text": "it goes along with like"}, {"start": "02:54:52", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "all the people that have been talking"}, {"start": "02:54:53", "end": "02:55:00", "text": "about this cadra of highresolution, you"}, {"start": "02:54:58", "end": "02:55:04", "text": "know, some case 4K"}, {"start": "02:55:00", "end": "02:55:06", "text": "super clear photos of UFOs of craft that"}, {"start": "02:55:04", "end": "02:55:07", "text": "are just"}, {"start": "02:55:06", "end": "02:55:10", "text": ">> God knows we have sensors everywhere,"}, {"start": "02:55:07", "end": "02:55:12", "text": "right? All these drones with high-res"}, {"start": "02:55:10", "end": "02:55:13", "text": "cameras and everything like that. It's"}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:15", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "02:55:13", "end": "02:55:17", "text": ">> yeah, of course they would be. They We"}, {"start": "02:55:15", "end": "02:55:18", "text": "got Yeah, sure. We got phones and cell"}, {"start": "02:55:17", "end": "02:55:20", "text": "phones and pictures show up all the time"}, {"start": "02:55:18", "end": "02:55:21", "text": "on the internet. But how do you know"}, {"start": "02:55:20", "end": "02:55:23", "text": "what's real and what's fake? And who's"}, {"start": "02:55:21", "end": "02:55:23", "text": "got the time to go through it all? Do"}, {"start": "02:55:23", "end": "02:55:24", "text": "you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:55:23", "end": "02:55:26", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:55:24", "end": "02:55:28", "text": ">> But the military,"}, {"start": "02:55:26", "end": "02:55:30", "text": "they've got the sensors, they've got the"}, {"start": "02:55:28", "end": "02:55:32", "text": "the cameras. I mean, they if anyone's"}, {"start": "02:55:30", "end": "02:55:34", "text": "going to have that kind of data, it"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:36", "text": "would be the military. And everyone says"}, {"start": "02:55:34", "end": "02:55:37", "text": "they have it. And Gary McKinnon found"}, {"start": "02:55:36", "end": "02:55:38", "text": "some of it."}, {"start": "02:55:37", "end": "02:55:39", "text": ">> He sure did."}, {"start": "02:55:38", "end": "02:55:42", "text": ">> He got to see it."}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:43", "text": ">> What was your um what was your I guess"}, {"start": "02:55:42", "end": "02:55:48", "text": "it's now infamous interaction with Buzz"}, {"start": "02:55:43", "end": "02:55:49", "text": "Aldrin. Oh god."}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:50", "text": ">> Excuse me. Jesus."}, {"start": "02:55:49", "end": "02:55:55", "text": ">> You don't have to fold your arms. You"}, {"start": "02:55:50", "end": "02:55:55", "text": "can relax. This is a place for sharing."}, {"start": "02:55:56", "end": "02:55:59", "text": ">> I'll give you the short version."}, {"start": "02:55:58", "end": "02:56:01", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:55:59", "end": "02:56:03", "text": ">> he didn't punch you in the mouth."}, {"start": "02:56:01", "end": "02:56:07", "text": ">> I know. I put your hand in the Bible."}, {"start": "02:56:03", "end": "02:56:07", "text": "Uh, okay. So,"}, {"start": "02:56:08", "end": "02:56:12", "text": "I worked on a movie set called The"}, {"start": "02:56:10", "end": "02:56:14", "text": "Legend of Obie Tagert. And it would have"}, {"start": "02:56:12", "end": "02:56:19", "text": "been"}, {"start": "02:56:14", "end": "02:56:21", "text": "probably mid 90s, my guess. Yeah, I was"}, {"start": "02:56:19", "end": "02:56:24", "text": "working on my first UFO doc."}, {"start": "02:56:21", "end": "02:56:28", "text": "I think I was working on Yeah. And uh"}, {"start": "02:56:24", "end": "02:56:30", "text": "Mickey Rooney, his wife Jan Rooney, and"}, {"start": "02:56:28", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "there was another actor, is it Ned"}, {"start": "02:56:30", "end": "02:56:36", "text": "Batty, that got that was in now you"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "going to do some praying, boy, and you"}, {"start": "02:56:36", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "better pray good. You remember that one?"}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:41", "text": ">> Was that deliverance?"}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:43", "text": ">> Deliverance. Yes, sir. Okay. He was"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:44", "text": "there and I just seen deliverance like a"}, {"start": "02:56:43", "end": "02:56:46", "text": "year or two earlier. So I couldn't help"}, {"start": "02:56:44", "end": "02:56:48", "text": "but think about I was like, \"Dude, I"}, {"start": "02:56:46", "end": "02:56:49", "text": "just saw you.\""}, {"start": "02:56:48", "end": "02:56:53", "text": ">> You squeal like a pig."}, {"start": "02:56:49", "end": "02:56:55", "text": ">> Oh god. God, that scene was like brutal."}, {"start": "02:56:53", "end": "02:56:56", "text": ">> Oh my lord. No."}, {"start": "02:56:55", "end": "02:56:58", "text": ">> Please don't Google."}, {"start": "02:56:56", "end": "02:57:00", "text": ">> I remember the first I had no idea what"}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:57:00", "text": "that was. One of the I watched it in"}, {"start": "02:57:00", "end": "02:57:00", "text": "England."}, {"start": "02:57:00", "end": "02:57:02", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "02:57:00", "end": "02:57:03", "text": ">> in the '9s"}, {"start": "02:57:02", "end": "02:57:04", "text": ">> and they were like, \"We're going to"}, {"start": "02:57:03", "end": "02:57:07", "text": "watch Deliverance.\" I was like,"}, {"start": "02:57:04", "end": "02:57:10", "text": "\"Deliverance?\" I was like, and it got to"}, {"start": "02:57:07", "end": "02:57:13", "text": "that scene, I was like, \"Oh, Jesus, no."}, {"start": "02:57:10", "end": "02:57:16", "text": "God, please.\" Anyway,"}, {"start": "02:57:13", "end": "02:57:20", "text": "so I was an extra on this movie. I was a"}, {"start": "02:57:16", "end": "02:57:23", "text": "prison guard for M for Jan uh um and one"}, {"start": "02:57:20", "end": "02:57:27", "text": "of the Rooney"}, {"start": "02:57:23", "end": "02:57:28", "text": "and uh as usual, they're like, \"Oh, so"}, {"start": "02:57:27", "end": "02:57:29", "text": "you know what what else are you up to?\""}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:31", "text": "And I was like, \"I'm doing a UFO"}, {"start": "02:57:29", "end": "02:57:33", "text": "documentary.\" And they were like, \"Oh, I"}, {"start": "02:57:31", "end": "02:57:35", "text": "was I was kind of expecting the typical,"}, {"start": "02:57:33", "end": "02:57:38", "text": "you know, laughter and ridicule,"}, {"start": "02:57:35", "end": "02:57:39", "text": "whatever.\" But he's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:57:38", "end": "02:57:43", "text": "you know, my wife and I are really good"}, {"start": "02:57:39", "end": "02:57:46", "text": "friends with uh with Buzz Aldrin.\""}, {"start": "02:57:43", "end": "02:57:48", "text": "And um yeah, he told us some pretty"}, {"start": "02:57:46", "end": "02:57:50", "text": "crazy stuff like he's seen some stuff. I"}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "was like, \"Really?\" Oh, yeah. You know"}, {"start": "02:57:50", "end": "02:57:55", "text": "what? We'll we'll get you in touch with"}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:59", "text": "him. So that happened. And then a friend"}, {"start": "02:57:55", "end": "02:58:01", "text": "of mine in Kentfield, California was he"}, {"start": "02:57:59", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "was bartending an event. It was an art"}, {"start": "02:58:01", "end": "02:58:07", "text": "sale. It's an art dealer sale, whatever."}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:09", "text": "And there was a woman named Fean Potter"}, {"start": "02:58:07", "end": "02:58:12", "text": "there. And she was Buzz Aldron's sister."}, {"start": "02:58:09", "end": "02:58:14", "text": "So between her and I met her at a place"}, {"start": "02:58:12", "end": "02:58:15", "text": "called the West Bank, the Left Bank,"}, {"start": "02:58:14", "end": "02:58:21", "text": "sorry,"}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:23", "text": "Lariv Goo. And um and then uh Jan Rooney"}, {"start": "02:58:21", "end": "02:58:25", "text": "and Jan Rooney's dad was a general in"}, {"start": "02:58:23", "end": "02:58:26", "text": "the I think it was the Air Force and he"}, {"start": "02:58:25", "end": "02:58:29", "text": "talked about Roswell a little bit to"}, {"start": "02:58:26", "end": "02:58:31", "text": "her. But any case, between those two,"}, {"start": "02:58:29", "end": "02:58:34", "text": "they set up an interview with me with"}, {"start": "02:58:31", "end": "02:58:36", "text": "with Buzz Aldrin. And"}, {"start": "02:58:34", "end": "02:58:39", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "02:58:36", "end": "02:58:43", "text": "he he ultimately agrees to give me an"}, {"start": "02:58:39", "end": "02:58:45", "text": "interview about his UFO sighting."}, {"start": "02:58:43", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "And he goes, \"But I'm going to be on"}, {"start": "02:58:45", "end": "02:58:49", "text": "book tour. I'm going to be in the south"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:51", "text": "of France."}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:53", "text": "So, I borrowed some money, got a little"}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:55", "text": "crew."}, {"start": "02:58:53", "end": "02:58:57", "text": "He was like, \"This is where I'll be."}, {"start": "02:58:55", "end": "02:59:00", "text": "Come down and I'll meet with you.\" So, I"}, {"start": "02:58:57", "end": "02:59:02", "text": "arrived there in Monte Carlo."}, {"start": "02:59:00", "end": "02:59:04", "text": "And Monte Carlo is probably the most"}, {"start": "02:59:02", "end": "02:59:07", "text": "expensive place on earth. And I had a"}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:09", "text": "small budget and I was chewing up that"}, {"start": "02:59:07", "end": "02:59:10", "text": "money every day. And I kept, you know,"}, {"start": "02:59:09", "end": "02:59:13", "text": "getting in touch with them and it's"}, {"start": "02:59:10", "end": "02:59:14", "text": "like, you know, traveled all this way,"}, {"start": "02:59:13", "end": "02:59:16", "text": "blah blah blah. Oh, yeah. you know,"}, {"start": "02:59:14", "end": "02:59:17", "text": "tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. So, I"}, {"start": "02:59:16", "end": "02:59:21", "text": "finally got to like, I don't know,"}, {"start": "02:59:17", "end": "02:59:22", "text": "whatever, fourth day. And I said, you"}, {"start": "02:59:21", "end": "02:59:24", "text": "know, Mr. Aldrin, I can't be too"}, {"start": "02:59:22", "end": "02:59:26", "text": "bullish. He goes, you know, I said, Mr."}, {"start": "02:59:24", "end": "02:59:28", "text": "Mr. Aldron, with all due respect, I you"}, {"start": "02:59:26", "end": "02:59:32", "text": "know, I traveled all this way. You you"}, {"start": "02:59:28", "end": "02:59:34", "text": "did agree to an interview and and um you"}, {"start": "02:59:32", "end": "02:59:35", "text": "know, I I can't stay here forever. This"}, {"start": "02:59:34", "end": "02:59:37", "text": "place is really expensive. I I traveled"}, {"start": "02:59:35", "end": "02:59:40", "text": "all the way down here. He goes, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "02:59:37", "end": "02:59:41", "text": "okay, okay, okay, okay. Meet me in my"}, {"start": "02:59:40", "end": "02:59:44", "text": "hotel lobby tomorrow morning at whatever"}, {"start": "02:59:41", "end": "02:59:46", "text": "9:00, whatever time it was."}, {"start": "02:59:44", "end": "02:59:48", "text": "no cameras rolling. I said, \"No, no, no,"}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "no. Won't have any cameras rolling.\" So,"}, {"start": "02:59:48", "end": "02:59:51", "text": "the next morning, we got there a little"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:54", "text": "early. We're having like a quisson, this"}, {"start": "02:59:51", "end": "02:59:58", "text": "really fancy hotel, and it was like a"}, {"start": "02:59:54", "end": "03:00:00", "text": "$10 cup of coffee back then. And um the"}, {"start": "02:59:58", "end": "03:00:01", "text": "concier comes up to me. He says, \"Mr."}, {"start": "03:00:00", "end": "03:00:03", "text": "Fox,\" I said, \"Yeah, you have a"}, {"start": "03:00:01", "end": "03:00:04", "text": "telephone call.\" I like, \"Come over"}, {"start": "03:00:03", "end": "03:00:07", "text": "there.\" And it's buzzing. He goes, \"I I"}, {"start": "03:00:04", "end": "03:00:09", "text": "can't do it.\""}, {"start": "03:00:07", "end": "03:00:11", "text": "He goes, \"Uh, Paul Allen has just"}, {"start": "03:00:09", "end": "03:00:13", "text": "invested in STEI, search for"}, {"start": "03:00:11", "end": "03:00:14", "text": "extraterrestrial intelligence, right?\""}, {"start": "03:00:13", "end": "03:00:16", "text": "conservative. Those guys are looking for"}, {"start": "03:00:14", "end": "03:00:18", "text": " all the way across that, you know."}, {"start": "03:00:16", "end": "03:00:20", "text": ">> And uh he goes, \"I can't jeopardize. I'm"}, {"start": "03:00:18", "end": "03:00:21", "text": "trying to develop a rocket to get"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:23", "text": "citizens into space, yada yada yada. I'm"}, {"start": "03:00:21", "end": "03:00:26", "text": "working with Congress. I I can't do it."}, {"start": "03:00:23", "end": "03:00:27", "text": "And how how's my story going to change"}, {"start": "03:00:26", "end": "03:00:28", "text": "anything anyway?\""}, {"start": "03:00:27", "end": "03:00:30", "text": ">> Oh, come on."}, {"start": "03:00:28", "end": "03:00:31", "text": ">> And I said, \"Well, with all due respect,"}, {"start": "03:00:30", "end": "03:00:33", "text": "sir, it takes people of your stature to"}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:34", "text": "come forward and help elevate this"}, {"start": "03:00:33", "end": "03:00:36", "text": "topic.\" Blah blah blah blah blah blah."}, {"start": "03:00:34", "end": "03:00:37", "text": ">> And Edra Mitchell did it."}, {"start": "03:00:36", "end": "03:00:39", "text": ">> Yeah. But Ed Andrew Mitchell wasn't a"}, {"start": "03:00:37", "end": "03:00:41", "text": "firsthand witness, but he met with"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:42", "text": "firsthand witnesses and he knew about"}, {"start": "03:00:41", "end": "03:00:45", "text": "Roswell. But there's another reason why"}, {"start": "03:00:42", "end": "03:00:47", "text": "I believed Roswell. But you know, he"}, {"start": "03:00:45", "end": "03:00:48", "text": "didn't deny any like, you know, he"}, {"start": "03:00:47", "end": "03:00:50", "text": "didn't say, \"Hey, I had a sight in the"}, {"start": "03:00:48", "end": "03:00:53", "text": "way of the moon.\" Who the sister told me"}, {"start": "03:00:50", "end": "03:00:55", "text": "that he had chased a disc. I think it"}, {"start": "03:00:53", "end": "03:00:58", "text": "was in the 50s. Yeah, probably late 50s."}, {"start": "03:00:55", "end": "03:01:00", "text": "Chased a disc rattled. Apparently,"}, {"start": "03:00:58", "end": "03:01:01", "text": "sister said he was rattled. He chased"}, {"start": "03:01:00", "end": "03:01:03", "text": "this thing up to as high as his plane"}, {"start": "03:01:01", "end": "03:01:07", "text": "would go. Couldn't catch it. And then"}, {"start": "03:01:03", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "they saw something a little less uh a"}, {"start": "03:01:07", "end": "03:01:09", "text": "little more ambiguous or something that"}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:12", "text": "something that followed them to the"}, {"start": "03:01:09", "end": "03:01:15", "text": "moon. Something like that. And uh but I"}, {"start": "03:01:12", "end": "03:01:19", "text": "never got a story. And then I went on"}, {"start": "03:01:15", "end": "03:01:23", "text": "Larry King with him in like 2007,"}, {"start": "03:01:19", "end": "03:01:25", "text": "maybe 2006, 2007. And it was like I"}, {"start": "03:01:23", "end": "03:01:27", "text": "don't know 8 years later, something like"}, {"start": "03:01:25", "end": "03:01:30", "text": "that. Couldn't tell you exactly, but I"}, {"start": "03:01:27", "end": "03:01:31", "text": "had to look at my records. And uh and I"}, {"start": "03:01:30", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "went on with Fe Simon, the former"}, {"start": "03:01:31", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "governor of Arizona. And to my"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:38", "text": "unbelievable shock, I went into the"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:40", "text": "green room and there he was getting his"}, {"start": "03:01:38", "end": "03:01:42", "text": "makeup put on. And I was like, \"Holy"}, {"start": "03:01:40", "end": "03:01:44", "text": " I'm about to go live with Buzz"}, {"start": "03:01:42", "end": "03:01:47", "text": "Aldrin and the former governor.\" So I"}, {"start": "03:01:44", "end": "03:01:48", "text": "take a picture of him."}, {"start": "03:01:47", "end": "03:01:50", "text": "Probably did it with my phone. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:01:48", "end": "03:01:51", "text": "2007. Yeah, sure. I did it with my"}, {"start": "03:01:50", "end": "03:01:54", "text": "phone. I have the picture. I got it"}, {"start": "03:01:51", "end": "03:01:55", "text": "somewhere on my computer. And um she's"}, {"start": "03:01:54", "end": "03:01:56", "text": "like, \"You're sir, you're not supposed"}, {"start": "03:01:55", "end": "03:01:59", "text": "to take pictures in the green room.\" I"}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:02:01", "text": "was like, \"Oh, I'm sorry.\" Kept it."}, {"start": "03:01:59", "end": "03:02:04", "text": "Yeah. And he's like looks at me. He's"}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:06", "text": "like, you know, he's kind of like and um"}, {"start": "03:02:04", "end": "03:02:07", "text": "and then he goes on and I was like, I'm"}, {"start": "03:02:06", "end": "03:02:09", "text": "going to I'm going to I'm going to"}, {"start": "03:02:07", "end": "03:02:11", "text": "really get this guy cuz I was still"}, {"start": "03:02:09", "end": "03:02:13", "text": "pissed about what happened. And Fe was"}, {"start": "03:02:11", "end": "03:02:15", "text": "like, you know, this guy's, you know,"}, {"start": "03:02:13", "end": "03:02:17", "text": "he's very respected and land on the moon"}, {"start": "03:02:15", "end": "03:02:19", "text": "with Neil Armstrong, blah blah blah blah"}, {"start": "03:02:17", "end": "03:02:21", "text": "blah blah blah. Really be careful. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:02:19", "end": "03:02:24", "text": "I know. Allegedly, I know people I know"}, {"start": "03:02:21", "end": "03:02:26", "text": "there's that whole debate. my my really"}, {"start": "03:02:24", "end": "03:02:28", "text": "good uh friend, one of my best friends,"}, {"start": "03:02:26", "end": "03:02:30", "text": "and he was my neighbor and we were so"}, {"start": "03:02:28", "end": "03:02:31", "text": "tight and he's like, \"We didn't go to"}, {"start": "03:02:30", "end": "03:02:33", "text": "the moon.\" And we would always have"}, {"start": "03:02:31", "end": "03:02:34", "text": "these debates and we loved each other."}, {"start": "03:02:33", "end": "03:02:35", "text": "We didn't care. He was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:02:34", "end": "03:02:38", "text": "cool.\" You know,"}, {"start": "03:02:35", "end": "03:02:39", "text": ">> but uh he just sat there and he lied. He"}, {"start": "03:02:38", "end": "03:02:41", "text": "just sat there and lied."}, {"start": "03:02:39", "end": "03:02:43", "text": ">> Just sat there and lied. And I just sat"}, {"start": "03:02:41", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "there and just watched him lie."}, {"start": "03:02:43", "end": "03:02:47", "text": ">> Uh you couldn't say"}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:50", "text": ">> it poked a little bit. There's a guy"}, {"start": "03:02:47", "end": "03:02:52", "text": "Darcy Weir who did a film that covered"}, {"start": "03:02:50", "end": "03:02:54", "text": "it. He co he found the amazingly enough"}, {"start": "03:02:52", "end": "03:02:54", "text": "he found the clips of me on on the show"}, {"start": "03:02:54", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "and"}, {"start": "03:02:54", "end": "03:02:58", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. Darcy interviewed me about"}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:03:01", "text": "it, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."}, {"start": "03:02:58", "end": "03:03:02", "text": ">> But um yeah, that's that's my story."}, {"start": "03:03:01", "end": "03:03:04", "text": ">> Oh, what a shame."}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:04", "text": ">> I know. Can you imagine? That was in the"}, {"start": "03:03:04", "end": "03:03:07", "text": "'9s."}, {"start": "03:03:04", "end": "03:03:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Any other astronauts?"}, {"start": "03:03:07", "end": "03:03:10", "text": ">> Edgar Mitchell."}, {"start": "03:03:09", "end": "03:03:12", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:03:10", "end": "03:03:14", "text": ">> any firstirhand witnesses?"}, {"start": "03:03:12", "end": "03:03:15", "text": ">> Yeah, there was a was that Mercury"}, {"start": "03:03:14", "end": "03:03:18", "text": "astronaut guy that took a picture of a"}, {"start": "03:03:15", "end": "03:03:20", "text": "UFO. That was pretty incredible."}, {"start": "03:03:18", "end": "03:03:22", "text": " trying to remember his name."}, {"start": "03:03:20", "end": "03:03:24", "text": "Sorry, I'm exhausted. I've been up I've"}, {"start": "03:03:22", "end": "03:03:25", "text": "just barely been getting sleep lately. I"}, {"start": "03:03:24", "end": "03:03:27", "text": "mean, I always been I had the National"}, {"start": "03:03:25", "end": "03:03:29", "text": "Press Club event and I flew to Brazil"}, {"start": "03:03:27", "end": "03:03:31", "text": "and I was sick in Brazil and I was all"}, {"start": "03:03:29", "end": "03:03:33", "text": "that stuff. Then I flew back here like"}, {"start": "03:03:31", "end": "03:03:34", "text": "boom boom boom. So, I'm sorry if I seem"}, {"start": "03:03:33", "end": "03:03:36", "text": "a little tired."}, {"start": "03:03:34", "end": "03:03:40", "text": ">> No, no, you're good."}, {"start": "03:03:36", "end": "03:03:42", "text": ">> But, uh, yeah, there is a guy. It was in"}, {"start": "03:03:40", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "the 60s. It was part of the Mercury"}, {"start": "03:03:42", "end": "03:03:45", "text": "program and he took a pretty damn good"}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:48", "text": "picture of a UFO and I think it might"}, {"start": "03:03:45", "end": "03:03:50", "text": "have been some filmed footage too."}, {"start": "03:03:48", "end": "03:03:51", "text": "Josh Garnet. Darn."}, {"start": "03:03:50", "end": "03:03:52", "text": ">> That's okay. We'll find him."}, {"start": "03:03:51", "end": "03:03:54", "text": ">> Yeah, you'll have to find it. It was It"}, {"start": "03:03:52", "end": "03:03:56", "text": "was Mercury Mission"}, {"start": "03:03:54", "end": "03:03:57", "text": "and I know his name, but I just I'm at a"}, {"start": "03:03:56", "end": "03:03:59", "text": "loss right now. Anyway,"}, {"start": "03:03:57", "end": "03:04:00", "text": ">> well then the la the last thing we'll"}, {"start": "03:03:59", "end": "03:04:00", "text": "let you go."}, {"start": "03:04:00", "end": "03:04:03", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "03:04:00", "end": "03:04:04", "text": ">> Are there any are there any UFO photos,"}, {"start": "03:04:03", "end": "03:04:06", "text": "stories, or anything that's out there"}, {"start": "03:04:04", "end": "03:04:09", "text": "that that people tend to believe that"}, {"start": "03:04:06", "end": "03:04:10", "text": "you don't that you say that's not it?"}, {"start": "03:04:09", "end": "03:04:12", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "03:04:10", "end": "03:04:14", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:04:12", "end": "03:04:18", "text": "Billy"}, {"start": "03:04:14", "end": "03:04:22", "text": "uh he's he's um he's in Swit Switzerland"}, {"start": "03:04:18", "end": "03:04:22", "text": "and I'm always told Billy Myers."}, {"start": "03:04:22", "end": "03:04:24", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "03:04:22", "end": "03:04:26", "text": ">> And you know some people can criticize"}, {"start": "03:04:24", "end": "03:04:27", "text": "me. It's fair to have a you know look we"}, {"start": "03:04:26", "end": "03:04:29", "text": "can have opinions and we can agree to"}, {"start": "03:04:27", "end": "03:04:30", "text": "disagree. I'm not trying to be"}, {"start": "03:04:29", "end": "03:04:32", "text": "disrespectful to anybody."}, {"start": "03:04:30", "end": "03:04:34", "text": ">> Everyone can make up their own mind."}, {"start": "03:04:32", "end": "03:04:37", "text": ">> My personal opinion based on what I've"}, {"start": "03:04:34", "end": "03:04:40", "text": "seen. I haven't met the guy so I have to"}, {"start": "03:04:37", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "add that to the story but my personal"}, {"start": "03:04:40", "end": "03:04:44", "text": "opinion is that um that he has"}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:47", "text": "definitely presented some fake"}, {"start": "03:04:44", "end": "03:04:49", "text": "photographs. Now some people say well"}, {"start": "03:04:47", "end": "03:04:52", "text": "yeah because some of the earlier stuff"}, {"start": "03:04:49", "end": "03:04:54", "text": "was legit but then it dried up and so he"}, {"start": "03:04:52", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "wanted to keep getting attention so he"}, {"start": "03:04:54", "end": "03:04:59", "text": "faked some stuff and I was like well if"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:05:01", "text": "you faked one you faked two ah it's kind"}, {"start": "03:04:59", "end": "03:05:02", "text": "of tough for me to go well was he"}, {"start": "03:05:01", "end": "03:05:04", "text": "telling the truth? Yeah you I don't"}, {"start": "03:05:02", "end": "03:05:06", "text": "know. Uh but but I'm also told that"}, {"start": "03:05:04", "end": "03:05:07", "text": "there's a certain force field because a"}, {"start": "03:05:06", "end": "03:05:10", "text": "lot of people go why is it always"}, {"start": "03:05:07", "end": "03:05:12", "text": "blurry? It's a little fuzzy. There's a"}, {"start": "03:05:10", "end": "03:05:14", "text": "there's a a field around that that kind"}, {"start": "03:05:12", "end": "03:05:15", "text": "of affects the environment."}, {"start": "03:05:14", "end": "03:05:16", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "03:05:15", "end": "03:05:18", "text": ">> Gravity field or something. I'm not a"}, {"start": "03:05:16", "end": "03:05:22", "text": "physicist. I don't tell you. But in age"}, {"start": "03:05:18", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "of disclosure, uh how put off has talks"}, {"start": "03:05:22", "end": "03:05:29", "text": "about the nature of propulsion and how"}, {"start": "03:05:25", "end": "03:05:31", "text": "that bends warps folds the space around"}, {"start": "03:05:29", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "it when it causes it to be a little"}, {"start": "03:05:31", "end": "03:05:37", "text": "blurry. And I was told that a long time"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:40", "text": "ago that if there's a crystal clear like"}, {"start": "03:05:37", "end": "03:05:42", "text": "defined edge around the craft, generally"}, {"start": "03:05:40", "end": "03:05:43", "text": "that's considered to be fake."}, {"start": "03:05:42", "end": "03:05:43", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:44", "text": ">> Excuse me. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:47", "text": ">> Cuz they're warping"}, {"start": "03:05:44", "end": "03:05:48", "text": ">> space a little fuzzy"}, {"start": "03:05:47", "end": "03:05:51", "text": ">> cuz you see a lot of discs where the"}, {"start": "03:05:48", "end": "03:05:52", "text": "surface is almost moving. Those I tend"}, {"start": "03:05:51", "end": "03:05:53", "text": "to believe."}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:56", "text": ">> You'll see that too. But no, but even"}, {"start": "03:05:53", "end": "03:05:59", "text": "like you know um 1950 McMinnville,"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:00", "text": "Oregon, uh the Trents, you look at that"}, {"start": "03:05:59", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "photograph and boy that's pretty damn"}, {"start": "03:06:00", "end": "03:06:03", "text": "good."}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:05", "text": "people that had the some of the original"}, {"start": "03:06:03", "end": "03:06:07", "text": "prints and zoomed in on it. You can see"}, {"start": "03:06:05", "end": "03:06:08", "text": "it's blurred around the edge. So, it's"}, {"start": "03:06:07", "end": "03:06:10", "text": "pretty authentic. And yeah, two"}, {"start": "03:06:08", "end": "03:06:12", "text": "witnesses, broad daylight, multiple"}, {"start": "03:06:10", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "angles, points of reference, very good"}, {"start": "03:06:12", "end": "03:06:15", "text": "photograph."}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:17", "text": ">> Is there anything that we didn't cover"}, {"start": "03:06:15", "end": "03:06:19", "text": "today about Virginia or any of your"}, {"start": "03:06:17", "end": "03:06:23", "text": "other work you want to get out there?"}, {"start": "03:06:19", "end": "03:06:26", "text": ">> Um, if you support my work, please go"}, {"start": "03:06:23", "end": "03:06:28", "text": "watch Moment of Contact: New Revelations"}, {"start": "03:06:26", "end": "03:06:30", "text": "of Alien Encounters. I worked so hard to"}, {"start": "03:06:28", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "get that out there in timely fashion."}, {"start": "03:06:30", "end": "03:06:34", "text": "included a very quick snapshot of some"}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "of the relevant aspects that's been"}, {"start": "03:06:34", "end": "03:06:38", "text": "happening in transparency, pushing for"}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:40", "text": "transparency in the US government. The"}, {"start": "03:06:38", "end": "03:06:42", "text": "first 20 minutes is all new and then and"}, {"start": "03:06:40", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "then some of the most compelling"}, {"start": "03:06:42", "end": "03:06:45", "text": "firsthand eyewitness testimony in the"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "history of phenomenon. If you believe"}, {"start": "03:06:45", "end": "03:06:51", "text": "it, I tend to I believe Dr. because I"}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:54", "text": "can't find a motive. He's not selling a"}, {"start": "03:06:51", "end": "03:06:57", "text": "doc. He's not selling a book. He's not"}, {"start": "03:06:54", "end": "03:06:59", "text": "asking for money for a story. He's still"}, {"start": "03:06:57", "end": "03:07:02", "text": "still the lead neurosurgeon at the"}, {"start": "03:06:59", "end": "03:07:03", "text": "hospital still to this day. And I'm"}, {"start": "03:07:02", "end": "03:07:05", "text": "sitting there going, I've met his wife."}, {"start": "03:07:03", "end": "03:07:07", "text": "I met his kids. I met his co-workers. I"}, {"start": "03:07:05", "end": "03:07:09", "text": "went had a whole tour at the hospital."}, {"start": "03:07:07", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "All the people he's been working with."}, {"start": "03:07:09", "end": "03:07:13", "text": "So, he'd have to be lying to everybody."}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:14", "text": ">> There's no way. He was too he was so"}, {"start": "03:07:13", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "affected by it."}, {"start": "03:07:14", "end": "03:07:17", "text": ">> See why he would do that? And he goes,"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:21", "text": "\"I'll take a public lie detector test"}, {"start": "03:07:17", "end": "03:07:24", "text": "tomorrow with my hand on a Bible.\" Like,"}, {"start": "03:07:21", "end": "03:07:26", "text": "what does this guy have to win by? Why"}, {"start": "03:07:24", "end": "03:07:28", "text": "would he do that in his twilight years?"}, {"start": "03:07:26", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "I just Yeah, look me in the eyes, man."}, {"start": "03:07:28", "end": "03:07:33", "text": "You the tears holding on to me. He's"}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:35", "text": "like, I'm telling the truth, man. I'm"}, {"start": "03:07:33", "end": "03:07:38", "text": "coming forward because younger"}, {"start": "03:07:35", "end": "03:07:39", "text": "generations need to know this is real."}, {"start": "03:07:38", "end": "03:07:42", "text": ">> Moment of contact. Definitely want to"}, {"start": "03:07:39", "end": "03:07:43", "text": "watch that. Um, I bought it on Apple TV."}, {"start": "03:07:42", "end": "03:07:45", "text": "I'm assuming it's it's everywhere."}, {"start": "03:07:43", "end": "03:07:47", "text": ">> It's on Amazon, Apple, Google, Fandango."}, {"start": "03:07:45", "end": "03:07:50", "text": "Yeah, I think I gave your crew a link"}, {"start": "03:07:47", "end": "03:07:51", "text": "that you hopefully will be in the video."}, {"start": "03:07:50", "end": "03:07:53", "text": "It's a genius link and you just click on"}, {"start": "03:07:51", "end": "03:07:54", "text": "it. It'll take you to various platforms."}, {"start": "03:07:53", "end": "03:07:55", "text": "I appreciate you having me on. I really"}, {"start": "03:07:54", "end": "03:07:56", "text": "do."}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:58", "text": ">> Sure. We got your proton email. Anywhere"}, {"start": "03:07:56", "end": "03:08:00", "text": "else that we can find you."}, {"start": "03:07:58", "end": "03:08:03", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Good idea. Thank you. Uh, find"}, {"start": "03:08:00", "end": "03:08:08", "text": "me on X, formerly known as Twitter. It's"}, {"start": "03:08:03", "end": "03:08:11", "text": "James It's James C as in Charlie Fox."}, {"start": "03:08:08", "end": "03:08:14", "text": "James CF Fox. And you can I post all"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:16", "text": "everything relevant that I do there. I"}, {"start": "03:08:14", "end": "03:08:17", "text": "do have a an Instagram account, but I"}, {"start": "03:08:16", "end": "03:08:19", "text": "got a couple 20-year-olds running that"}, {"start": "03:08:17", "end": "03:08:21", "text": "one, so I don't take it as often as I"}, {"start": "03:08:19", "end": "03:08:23", "text": "should. How do I do this?"}, {"start": "03:08:21", "end": "03:08:24", "text": ">> I'm in the same boat. James, thanks so"}, {"start": "03:08:23", "end": "03:08:25", "text": "much for coming in. This has been a joy."}, {"start": "03:08:24", "end": "03:08:26", "text": ">> Thanks for having me on. I really"}, {"start": "03:08:25", "end": "03:08:28", "text": "appreciate it."}, {"start": "03:08:26", "end": "03:08:30", "text": ">> All right. Bye, everybody. So, that's"}, {"start": "03:08:28", "end": "03:08:32", "text": "James Fox's investigation into Arginia."}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "Now, here's what we can verify. The"}, {"start": "03:08:32", "end": "03:08:37", "text": "incident that happened in January 1996."}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:39", "text": "Multiple witnesses, civilian and"}, {"start": "03:08:37", "end": "03:08:42", "text": "military, reported seeing both a craft"}, {"start": "03:08:39", "end": "03:08:45", "text": "in distress and strange creatures in and"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:47", "text": "around the town. A military police"}, {"start": "03:08:45", "end": "03:08:50", "text": "officer named Marco Sherez died about 3"}, {"start": "03:08:47", "end": "03:08:52", "text": "weeks after allegedly capturing one of"}, {"start": "03:08:50", "end": "03:08:54", "text": "the beings. His official cause of death"}, {"start": "03:08:52", "end": "03:08:57", "text": "was listed as sepsis and pneumonia from"}, {"start": "03:08:54", "end": "03:08:58", "text": "what doctors called benign bacteria"}, {"start": "03:08:57", "end": "03:09:01", "text": "though they never identified its source"}, {"start": "03:08:58", "end": "03:09:03", "text": "and that's documented in the autopsy."}, {"start": "03:09:01", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "The big claim here is Dr. Idel"}, {"start": "03:09:03", "end": "03:09:06", "text": "Vventerelli's testimony. He's a"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:09", "text": "practicing neurosurgeon at Regional"}, {"start": "03:09:06", "end": "03:09:12", "text": "Hospital in Virginia. 45 years in"}, {"start": "03:09:09", "end": "03:09:14", "text": "medicine still performing brain surgery."}, {"start": "03:09:12", "end": "03:09:16", "text": "He says he had 3 to four minutes of"}, {"start": "03:09:14", "end": "03:09:19", "text": "face-to-face contact with a live"}, {"start": "03:09:16", "end": "03:09:22", "text": "non-human entity in the ICU on January"}, {"start": "03:09:19", "end": "03:09:24", "text": "20th, 1996. He's not selling a book."}, {"start": "03:09:22", "end": "03:09:26", "text": "He's not asking for money. His"}, {"start": "03:09:24", "end": "03:09:29", "text": "colleagues, other doctors who've known"}, {"start": "03:09:26", "end": "03:09:31", "text": "him for decades, all went on camera and"}, {"start": "03:09:29", "end": "03:09:33", "text": "vouched for him. Now, what I keep coming"}, {"start": "03:09:31", "end": "03:09:36", "text": "back to is what James said about motive."}, {"start": "03:09:33", "end": "03:09:38", "text": "If Dr. is lying, he's lying to his wife,"}, {"start": "03:09:36", "end": "03:09:40", "text": "his children, his colleagues, his entire"}, {"start": "03:09:38", "end": "03:09:42", "text": "community. Why would he do that? There's"}, {"start": "03:09:40", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "no upside. and he's offered to take a"}, {"start": "03:09:42", "end": "03:09:46", "text": "public lie detector test with his hand"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:48", "text": "on a Bible, something he doesn't take"}, {"start": "03:09:46", "end": "03:09:49", "text": "lightly. This is either the most"}, {"start": "03:09:48", "end": "03:09:52", "text": "significant testimony in the history of"}, {"start": "03:09:49", "end": "03:09:54", "text": "UFO research or it's an elaborate hoax"}, {"start": "03:09:52", "end": "03:09:56", "text": "with no motive, but I think it deserves"}, {"start": "03:09:54", "end": "03:09:58", "text": "serious investigation either way. You"}, {"start": "03:09:56", "end": "03:10:00", "text": "can watch James' documentary, Moment of"}, {"start": "03:09:58", "end": "03:10:02", "text": "Contact: New Revelations. It just"}, {"start": "03:10:00", "end": "03:10:05", "text": "dropped. And his National Press Club"}, {"start": "03:10:02", "end": "03:10:06", "text": "event from January 2026 is on YouTube"}, {"start": "03:10:05", "end": "03:10:09", "text": "for free. And if you have any"}, {"start": "03:10:06", "end": "03:10:11", "text": "information about the Vargi case, James"}, {"start": "03:10:09", "end": "03:10:14", "text": "has set up a secure proton mail for"}, {"start": "03:10:11", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "tips. Until next time, be safe, be kind,"}, {"start": "03:10:14", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "and know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "03:10:27", "end": "03:10:32", "text": "Oh"}, {"start": "03:10:29", "end": "03:10:36", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "03:10:32", "end": "03:10:41", "text": "I play Bib and Area 51. A secret code"}, {"start": "03:10:36", "end": "03:10:45", "text": "inside the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "03:10:41", "end": "03:10:48", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "03:10:45", "end": "03:10:50", "text": "well as music songs hanging like I"}, {"start": "03:10:48", "end": "03:10:53", "text": "should."}, {"start": "03:10:50", "end": "03:10:56", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "03:10:53", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "becomes the truth, my friends."}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "And it never ends."}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "03:11:09", "end": "03:11:19", "text": "I feel the crap. I got stuck inside M's"}, {"start": "03:11:12", "end": "03:11:21", "text": "home with MK truck. I feel only aware."}, {"start": "03:11:19", "end": "03:11:25", "text": "Did Stanley Cubric fake the moon landing"}, {"start": "03:11:21", "end": "03:11:28", "text": "alone on a film set? I would shadow"}, {"start": "03:11:25", "end": "03:11:32", "text": "people there."}, {"start": "03:11:28", "end": "03:11:34", "text": "The Roswell just fought the smiling man."}, {"start": "03:11:32", "end": "03:11:37", "text": "I'm told"}, {"start": "03:11:34", "end": "03:11:41", "text": "and his name was cold and I can't"}, {"start": "03:11:37", "end": "03:11:45", "text": "believe I'm dancing with the fish and"}, {"start": "03:11:41", "end": "03:11:45", "text": "your fish on Thursday night"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:49", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:59", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:11:59", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "03:12:15", "end": "03:12:21", "text": "The math man sightings and the solar"}, {"start": "03:12:17", "end": "03:12:25", "text": "storm still come to have got the secret"}, {"start": "03:12:21", "end": "03:12:27", "text": "city under ground."}, {"start": "03:12:25", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "Mysterious number stations, Planet"}, {"start": "03:12:27", "end": "03:12:34", "text": "Circle, Project Stargate, and where the"}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:38", "text": "dark watchers found"}, {"start": "03:12:34", "end": "03:12:41", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though."}, {"start": "03:12:38", "end": "03:12:45", "text": "The black night"}, {"start": "03:12:41", "end": "03:12:47", "text": "so I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"start": "03:12:45", "end": "03:12:50", "text": "fish"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:52", "text": "on Thursday night"}, {"start": "03:12:50", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "and"}, {"start": "03:12:52", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "03:12:56", "end": "03:13:05", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth."}, {"start": "03:13:00", "end": "03:13:05", "text": "My all through the night"}, {"start": "03:13:07", "end": "03:13:14", "text": "when they change you"}, {"start": "03:13:10", "end": "03:13:14", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "03:13:35", "end": "03:13:39", "text": "loves to dance."}, {"start": "03:13:42", "end": "03:13:49", "text": "Because she is a camera"}, {"start": "03:13:45", "end": "03:13:53", "text": "loves to dance when the feeling is"}, {"start": "03:13:49", "end": "03:13:53", "text": "wasting time."}, {"start": "03:13:55", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "03:13:59", "end": "03:14:02", "text": "Heat."}]

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James has spent three decades"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "uh investigating UFO cases, producing"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "seven documentaries, including Out of"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "the Blue, I know what I saw, the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "phenomenon, the program, and in 2007, he"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "organized what's still considered the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "most credible civilian UFO disclosure"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "event in history, bringing 14 military"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "and government officials from seven"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "countries to the National Press,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Clinton, Washington."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "His latest film, Moment of Contact: New"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Revelations, which is a follow-up of"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Moment of Contact 1, expands on his"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "nearly 30-year investigation into the"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Varia incident in Brazil. case involving"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "nonhuman beings, military capture, and"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "one mysterious death. Where are you with"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "the whistleblowers and the the current"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "narrative, the folks coming out, the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Grush, Alzando, the guys that come from"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "military intelligence that that have"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "clearance, they clear their talking"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "points for DoD. Where are you with this?"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Is it is it real? Is it disinformation?"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Here's what I say to the people out"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "there that that criticize these"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "whistleblowers. Fair enough. cuz they"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "say, \"I'm sick and tired of hearing"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "these allegations and where's the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "proof?\" Instead of criticizing them, why"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "don't we recognize the fact that they're"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "saying that they want to tell us the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "classified details needed? But they are"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "concerned about their personal safety."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "They're concerned about the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "consequences. They're concerned about"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "their clearances."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Why don't they want us to know what"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "there's some advantage that they have?"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Okay. So, let's live in an alternate"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "reality for a moment. Yeah. Okay. And"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "let's just imagine that this is all"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "true. Okay. Let's imagine that UFOs have"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "crashed. Let's imagine that we have"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "biologics. We have we've captured some"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "alive. Let's imagine that we have this"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "What incentive would the defense"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "department or the various agencies that"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "are in control of the special accessed"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "you know super ultra secret programs uh"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "how would they benefit by sharing that"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "technology with the rest of the world?"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "They would not."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> They would have to admit that Earth is"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "under some sort of observation. We have"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "definitive proof that we're not alone."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "We have biologics. We've been lying to"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "you guys for 80 plus years. Roswell is"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "real. Magenta was real. 30s in Italy. We"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "don't know who they are, where they come"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "from, or what their agenda is. I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "see an incentive to disclose that"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "either."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> When I first heard about the VIA case in"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Brazil, I thought there's no way there's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "anything to this."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "It's it's a it's a brown slippery alien."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "When the I was there's nothing to it."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "And then uh I started doing some"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "research. Of course, my primary source"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "was Moment of Contact and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "\"This happened. This story happened.\""}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "There's other things about Hal that I"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "can't really discuss with you, but I had"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "some weird telepathic stuff with him"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "that you like mindmelded with how put"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "off."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Uh I just want to I just want to know"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "what the hell's going on. We all do,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> you know, I want to know what's going"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "on. And"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> you have so much integrity and respect"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "from not just the UFO community, but"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "from everybody. How have you stayed that"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "guy, the the most probably the most"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "trustworthy voice?"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "to you by PDS debt."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Gather around. This happened September"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "11th, 1997. 4 years before that date"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "would mean something else entirely."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "A Thursday night in the desert. Artbell"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "sat in his home in Perup, Nevada, a"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "double wide trailer 60 mi west of Vegas,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "broadcasting coast to coast AM to"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "millions of insomniacs across the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "country. If you're watching this"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "channel, you already know who Art Bell"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "was. He's one of our biggest"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "inspirations. That night, Art opened his"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "special Area 51 line, a dedicated number"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "for government employees who wanted to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "share secrets. No screening, no caller"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "ID, no questions about your identity."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "You called and if you got through, you"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "were alive, talking to millions of"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "people who would never know your name."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Most Area 51 callers were measured,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "rehearsed. They prepared their"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "statements about classified projects and"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "underground facilities. The calls were"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "fascinating, but controlled."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "This caller was different. He wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "reading from notes. He was"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "hyperventilating. He was crying, begging"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Arbell to believe him before it was too"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "late."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "And then mid-sentence, the line went"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "dead. But it wasn't just the phone call"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "that died."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Surely, you can't be serious."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> Thank goodness you're here. Uh, where's"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the first aid kit and uh and and an"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "extra cash stash?"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> What's the cash for now?"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> I got to pay this guy off to keep quiet."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> What are you talking about? What"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "happened?"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Oh, one of the Beaver Brothers. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "look at you, Wyatt. I wanted a Beaver"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Brothers bit of customer."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> What do you mean a customer?"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> Well, he thought the guy's hand was a"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "biscotti. H look, it was dry, knobbly,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "and honestly, the guy was asking for it."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "It's not my fault if he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "moisturize."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Why was some guy trying to touch Wyatt?"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> Oh, that's how we do things here at the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Beaver Cafe."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Oh, yes. You bring a date, order a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "drink, and spend an hour petting a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "beaver together."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> Do you even hear yourself? Do you know"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "how that sounds?"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> That sounds adorable. Uh, it's about"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "connection. It's about touch. It's about"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "beaver enrichment. You know, not a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "of people have experience touching a"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "nice beaver."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> You charge people to touch wet beavers."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> How do you suck in healing about it? A"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "warm latte in one hand, a nice wet"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "beaver in the other. Now that's what I"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "call wellness."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Look, what is this really about?"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> I'm up to debt in my beautiful caval"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "latte scented deals. And not only do I"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "have to pay that guy off, I have to pay"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "off my credit card debt. Ah, but before"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "that, I need to pay whatever I charged"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "at 2 a.m. when I thought I was buying a"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "hot tub. I got to stop taking ambient"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "and going on Amazon."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Maybe it's time you try PDS"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "debt. Um, did you just slap a QR code on"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "my dignity and call it to the sponsor?"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> What gave you that idea?"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> You say you want a fresh start, but your"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "debt is still there, and it's getting"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "worse every month. But there is a way"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "out. 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Get"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "your free personalized assessment and"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the best option for you at"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "pdsbet.com/files."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> pds.com/files."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> That's one less flaming disaster. You"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "mean your debt?"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> No, the IRS sorted. Apparently, fever"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "fondling uh isn't a valid business"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "discussion. Go figure. Uh listen, I got"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "to go dirty's back. I sent her for milk,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "but they ran out, so uh h she made her"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "own. Honey, you know that's not"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "pasteurized."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Most callers on Coast to Coast AM were"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "calm. They'd rehearsed their stories,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "organized their thoughts, prepared to"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "sound credible on national radio. They"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "wanted to be taken seriously."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "This caller was hyperventilating. His"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "voice cracked and broke as he tried to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "get words out between Gas for Air. He"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "was a former employee of the Area 51 and"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "he was on the run."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> Were you an employee or are you now?"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Uh, I a former employee."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Former employee. I I was let go on a"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "medical discharge about a week ago and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "I I've kind of been running across the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "country. Um oh man, I don't know where"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "to start."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> He said he didn't have much time. They"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "would triangulate his position soon,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "whoever they were. He wasn't talking to"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the audience. He was talking to Art Bell"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "like a lifeline. Like Art was the only"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "person in the world who might believe"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "him before it was too late. Then he"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "dropped a bombshell."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> Okay. What what we're thinking of as as"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "aliens art, they're"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "uh they're they're extradimensional"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "beings that"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "an earlier precursor of the um space"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "program made contact with. Uh they they"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "are not what they claim to be."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> The aliens, he said, had been lying"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "about everything. The government wasn't"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "in control of the situation. The"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "entities weren't from Mars or some"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "distant solar system. They were"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "extradimensional. They came from a"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "different plane of reality and they had"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "infiltrated the military establishment"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "at the highest levels. The caller's fear"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "was contagious. You can hear it through"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the phone line mixing with static. This"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "wasn't entertainment. This was a man who"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "believed he was about to die. He warned"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Art about upcoming disasters. The"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "government knew what was coming. They"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "were preparing to move people out of"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "major cities, but not to save them. They"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "wanted the major population centers"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "wiped out. Art tried to calm him down,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "tried to get him to slow down and"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "explain, but the caller was past point"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "of reason. He'd seen something, and"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "whatever it was had broken him, and he"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "was mid-sentence when the line went"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "dead."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "The caller was cut off mid word. One"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "moment he was speaking, then nothing."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Silence. It wasn't just the phone call"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that died. Artbell's entire show went"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "offline."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Coast to coast AM broadcast via"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "satellite uplink. The signal traveled"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "from Arch trailer in Perump to a"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "transponder on GE1, a communication"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "satellite built by GE American parked in"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "geostationary orbit 22,300 m above the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "equator. From there, it bounced back"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "down to Earth stations operated by the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "network, which fed the signal to over"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "500 affiliate stations nationwide. The"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "system was solid, professional, built"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "with redundancies. It almost never"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "failed. Art had been on the air for"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "years without a major technical dropout."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "The system was built to keep working"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "through storms, through equipment"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "failures, through almost everything. At"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the exact moment the caller was about to"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "reveal something, the satellite link cut"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "out. Across America, millions of radios"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "went silent. The signal just vanished."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Art scrambled in his studio, checking"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "monitors, looking for any explanation."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "The carrier signal was gone. He switched"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "to backup phone lines and called the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "network. They were panicking, too. The"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Earth station had lost its lock on the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "satellite. The technical crew couldn't"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "explain it. A dropout that sudden and"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "complete meant either a massive energy"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "surge or a targeted jamming signal."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Something had reached up into space and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "killed the connection. Art eventually"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "got back on the air and he was shaken."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "The timing was too perfect, too precise."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "The caller had been seconds away from"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "saying something specific. And at that"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "exact moment, someone or something"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "pulled the plug. Not a guy in a basement"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "with a radio jammer and not a freak"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "storm. You don't accidentally knock out"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "a geostationary satellite transponder."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "That takes real hardware. That takes"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "someone who knows the upload frequency,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the beam footprint, and has the power to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "overwhelm it. Someone didn't want the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "caller to finish that sentence."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "The frantic caller incident became one"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "of the most chilling moments in radio"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "history and it spread the way things"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "spread in 1997 slowly through word of"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "mouth, tape trading and early internet"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "message boards. There was no YouTube, no"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Reddit, no social media. People dubbed"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "copies of the broadcast on cassette"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "tapes and nailed them to friends. They"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "posted about an amusement group sent"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "proto forums dedicated to coast to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "coast. The audio circulated through a"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "network of true believers who treated it"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "like culture band. Forbidden information"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "passed handto hand. Art bill's audience"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "was loyal and obsessive. They recorded"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "every broadcast. They cataloged them"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "within weeks. The frantic caller tape"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "was the most requested piece of audio in"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "coast to coast history. People listened"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "to it hundreds of times, dissecting"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "every word, every breath, every moment"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "of silence before the signal died. A few"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "weeks after the incident, a man called"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Coast to Coast AM. He said he was the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "original caller. He said it was all a"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "hoax. He was an actor who had gotten"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "carried away with the performance and he"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "wanted to set the record straight. The"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "audience didn't buy it. The second"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "caller sounded different. The voice was"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "similar, but not the same. The rhythm"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "was wrong. The original caller had been"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "hyperventilating and sobbing and"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "speaking in fragments because he"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "couldn't catch his breath. The second"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "caller was calm and smooth. He lacked"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the right moments. He sounded like he"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "was reading from a script. Longtime"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "listeners, the ones who had played the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "original tape over and over, noticed it"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "immediately. His pitch was slightly off."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "The vocal ticks didn't match. The raw"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "animal terror of the first call was"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "gone. Arfell himself seemed unconvinced."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "He let the second caller talk, but he"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "didn't push back hard and he didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "endorse the explanation. He moved on."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "The audience took that as a signal. It"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "felt like damage control. The theories"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "multiplied. Maybe the government found"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "the original caller and forced him to"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "recant or found someone close enough to"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "pass. Maybe the original caller was"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "never found at all. Maybe he was"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "triangulated just like he feared. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "the second caller was a plant sent by"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "military intelligence to close the loop"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "and kill the story before it spread"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "further than tape trade networks carry"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "it. But the satellite failure is the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "part that can't be explained away. You"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "can fake a voice. You can fake a script."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "You could hire an actor to call a radio"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "show and pretend to be terrified. But"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "you can't fake a satellite dying 22,000"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "m above the Earth. You can't fake an"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Earth station losing its lock at the"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "exact moment of a reveal. That takes"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "real power. That takes infrastructure."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that takes someone who was listening and"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "had the ability to reach into space and"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "end the conversation. The incident"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "changed the landscape of paranormal"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "broadcasting. It proved that late night"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "radio could produce moments that felt"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "genuinely dangerous, not scripted, not"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "safe, not entertainment."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Every paranormal show that came after"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "coast to coast, every conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "podcast, every late night live stream"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "chasing the strange and unexplained"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "exist in the shadow of Artbell Studio in"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Perump. And the frantic caller is the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "moment that sealed it. The moment the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "audience believed, truly believed that"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "someone powerful was listening to the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "same broadcast they were. Art Bell kept"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "going. He hosted Coast to Coast for"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "another 6 years before his first"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "retirement in 2003. He came back. He"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "always came back. He died in 2018 in"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "that same trailer in Perump, surrounded"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "by his equipment, his transmitter still"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "standing nearby. The show continues"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "without him. The caller warned about"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "extradimensional beings inside the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "government. He warned about planned"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "disasters and population reduction. In"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "1997, it sounded like paranoid fantasy."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Today, those warnings had echoed through"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "decades of conspiracy theory, growing"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "louder as trust in institutions has"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "fallen apart. Maybe he was crazy. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "he was an actor who got lucky with his"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "timing. Maybe the satellite failure"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "really was a coincidence, a one in a"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "billion glitch that happened at exactly"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "the wrong moment. Or maybe someone was"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "listening. Someone who didn't like what"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "they heard. Someone who reached into the"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "sky and pulled the plug before the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "caller could say too much. The audio is"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "still out there. You can listen to all"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "of it right now. The fear in that man's"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "voice is real. Or it's the greatest"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "performance in radio history. And"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "somewhere 22,000 mi above the Earth, a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "satellite that failed could fail once"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "again. So the next time your phone call"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "drops, the next time your internet cuts"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "out for no reason, don't assume it's a"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "glitch. Assume someone is listening."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Gather around. This happened. The Mojave"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Desert, California, 1997. 15 mi from the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "nearest paved road. Down a rudded dirt"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "track most vehicles couldn't handle."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "There stood a phone booth, a standard"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Pacific Bell booth. Glass walls, metal"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "shelf, dangling phone book, working dial"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "tone. It had been there for decades. No"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "one remembers exactly why. The mine it"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "served closed years ago. The workers"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "were long gone. But Pacific Bell kept"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "paying the electricity. The mine stayed"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "active. The booth just sat there in the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "emptiness waiting."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Then a man named Godfrey Doc Daniels"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "found the number. He read about it in a"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "punk scene. Some guy in Los Angeles has"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "spotted a tiny telephone icon on the map"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "and driven out to find it. Something"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "about that stuck with Daniels. A phone"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "booth in the middle of nowhere, a"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "working number that no one ever called."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "He started calling every day. He taped"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "each call, stated the date and time, let"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "the phone ring, and hung up. He stuck a"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "post-it note on his bathroom mirror. Did"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "you remember to call the Mojave Desert"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "today? He made every visitor to his"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "house call the number two. Half an hour"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "of tape. Nothing but ringing and the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "sound of his friends leaving messages"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "for nobody."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Then less than a month in June 20th, he"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "got a busy signal. Someone was using the"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "phone. He hit redial over and over until"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "the line started ringing again. A woman"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "answered. Her name was Lorine. She lived"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "out near the old mine. She didn't have a"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "phone of her own, so she walked to the"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "booth. Daniels built a website about it."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "He posted the number 760-7339969"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "and a simple challenge. Call it. See if"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "anyone answers. The internet fell in"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "love. People started calling from around"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "the world. London, Tokyo, Sa Paulo. The"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "phone rang constantly in the empty"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "desert day and night. Then people"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "started making the trip. They wanted to"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "be on the other end. They wanted to"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "answer. And what they found out there"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "changed them forever."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "People started calling the Mojave phone"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "booth from around the world. The phone"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "rang constantly in the empty desert day"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "and night and eventually people started"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "making the trip to answer it. They drove"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "for hours on paved highway, then turned"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "onto 15 mi of unpaved dirt road that"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "rattled their cars and covered"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "everything in dirt. They arrived at a"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "phone booth standing alone in a"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "landscape so empty it could have been on"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "another planet. The glass was shot out."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "The phone book was gone. Graffiti"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "covered every surface. Names, dates,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "messages from people who'd made the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "journey. And they waited. When the phone"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "rang, the sound hit hard. In the total"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "silence of the desert, no traffic, no"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "voices, no hum of any kind. A ringing"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "phone was almost violent and you"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "couldn't ignore it."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> That's weird."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "There it goes."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Mojave Desert."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "This is it."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> Fine, thanks."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> People picked up and found themselves"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "talking to strangers from halfway around"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "the world."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> So So there's actually a modern push"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "button phone there?"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": ">> Yes, there is."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> And nobody's ripped it out or destroyed"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> No. And Art, it rings 24 hours a day, 7"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "days a week from around the world."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "I talked to Switzerland. I talked to"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "Australia, Africa. Of course, I talked"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "to Kansas, Milwaukee, Wisconsin."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> The conversations were strange and"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "personal. Something about the isolation"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "made people open up. They told secrets."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "They confessed things they'd never said"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "out loud. They talked to the booth like"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "it was a priest, anonymous, and free of"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "judgment. The New York Times wrote about"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "it in May 1998. that blew the doors off."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Documentary crews showed up. Musicians"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "wrote songs about it. The booth got its"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "own fan sites, its own mythology. People"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "camped next to it for days waiting for"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the next call, talking to whoever"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "happened to dial the number."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "This was 1997, 1998, 1999. The early"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "internet, when the web still felt like a"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "place where weird things could happen,"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "where a phone booth in the desert could"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "become the most important place in the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "world just because enough people decided"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "it was. But there was something else"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "about the phone calls. They weren't"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "always friendly."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Campers at the booth started reporting"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "strange things. Not every call was a"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "curious stranger or a fellow fan. Some"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "calls were just static, a low electrical"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "hum that sounded like the desert wind"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "had gotten into the wires. Some were"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "garbled voices. Words didn't quite form"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "into anything he could understand."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Sounds that might have been human or"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "might not have been."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "One camper answered a call at 3:00 in"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "the morning. The desert was pitch black."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "No moon, no artificial light for miles"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "in any direction. Just stars and"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "silence. He picked up the receiver. A"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "voice whispered, \"I see you.\" He looked"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "around. Nothing. Darkness in every"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "direction. No cars, no flashlights, no"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "movement. He was alone. He hung up. The"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "phone rang again. Same voice, same"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "whisper. I see you. He didn't answer the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "third time. He got in his car and drove"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "15 mi of dirt road in the dark. The"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "whole way out, he couldn't shake the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "feeling that something was watching him"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "from the hills."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Other visitors reported the same kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "thing. Calls that felt off. Voices that"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "didn't sound quite human. The feeling of"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "being watched in a place where no one"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "should have been watching. Some saw"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "lights in the sky above the booth, not"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "planes or satellites, something else."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Others felt vibrations in the ground"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "when the phone rang, like the booth was"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "connected to something underneath the"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "desert. The booth pulled in true"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "believers who thought it was a portal, a"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "beacon, an antenna drawing attention"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "from things that weren't human. It"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "pulled in skeptics who came to prove the"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "stories wrong and left feeling uneasy."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "And it pulled in people who just wanted"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "to answer a phone in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "nowhere to prove that connection was"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "still possible even in the most isolated"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "place on Earth. And for 3 years, the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "Mojave phone booth rang."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "On May 17th, 2000, Pacific Bell sent a"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "crew into the desert. They tore down the"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "booth, ripped up the concrete pad, and"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "disconnected the line. Per company"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "policy, the phone number was retired. A"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Packbell spokesman later confirmed what"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "fans had feared. They hadn't just"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "removed the booth, they destroyed it."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "The official reason was environmental"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "damage. Too many visitors driving"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "off-road, tearing up the desert, leaving"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "trash in what had become the Mojave"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "National Preserve. But there was more to"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "it. The preserve superintendent had"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "confronted Pac Bell about longforgotten"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "easement fees for the land the Booth sat"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "on. Fees that had gone unpaid for years,"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "maybe decades. Pacific Bell didn't fight"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "it. They just pulled the plug. The"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "number 760-7339969"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "went dead. Someone placed a headstone at"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "the site, an actual grave marker, like a"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "memorial for a dead friend. The National"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Park Service removed that tomb, but"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "people still visit. They drive the 15 mi"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "of dirt road, park in the sand, and"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "stand in the empty spot where the booth"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "used to be. Nothing there now, just"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "scrub brush and the faint outline where"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "concrete once was. And the desert is"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "already taking it back. Visitors hear a"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "phantom ring, a faint electronic sound"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "rising from the desert floor, coming"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "from nowhere, drifting across the"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "emptiness. The people who hear it swear"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "it's real. It sounds like the booth is"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "still there, buried under the sand,"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "still connected to something, still"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "waiting for someone to answer."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "In 2013, a phone freak named Lucky225"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "acquired the old number through a"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "voiceover IP provider. He set it up so"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "callers could reach a conference line."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Strangers talking to strangers again,"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "just like the old days. The booth was"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "gone, but the number lived. Doc Daniels"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "spent 10 years writing a book about the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "whole thing. Adventures with the Mojave"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "phone booth came out in 2018, funded by"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "a Kickstarter campaign. NPR's Snap"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Judgment did a segment on it. The"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "podcast 99% Invisible devoted an episode"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "to it. The novelist JG Ballard called"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "the booth a kind of talismatic object,"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "something that shouldn't have mattered,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "but did for reasons nobody could fully"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "explain. Thousands of people drove hours"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "into the desert just to talk to"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "strangers. They told secrets to a phone"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "booth in the middle of nowhere because"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "it felt safer than telling anyone they"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "actually knew. The booth was a piece of"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "forgotten equipment, a leftover from"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "1948 that nobody bothered to disconnect."}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "A policy station for a dead mine. The"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "desert is quiet now. The concrete is"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "gone. The confessional is closed. But"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "somewhere under the sand, something is"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "still waiting for a signal."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "Gather around. This happened October"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "1996."}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "The Cascade Mountains in Washington"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "State. Dr. Jonathan Reed was hiking with"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "his golden retriever Susie enjoying a"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "crisp autumn afternoon in the woods."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Reed was a psychologist with a private"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "practice, an educated man, not the type"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "to invent stories about aliens. The"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "woods were quiet, too quiet. Then Susie"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "barked and ran into the brush ahead of"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "him. Reed heard a commotion, a low"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "humming sound, then a yelp, the sound of"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "an animal in pain. He grabbed a tree"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "branch and ran toward the noise. He"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "entered a clearing and stopped."}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "A black triangular craft hovered"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "silently above the ground, and beneath"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "it stood a creature, small and gray, and"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "it was holding what was left of his"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "doll."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "The creature moved with impossible"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "speed. It had Suzie by the jaw. And in"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "one motion, faster than Reed's eye could"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "track, it crushed her skull. Dog didn't"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "just die. She turned to powder. Bone and"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "tissue reduced to dust in seconds. Reed"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "didn't think. He swung the tree branch"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "as hard as he could. Solid impact."}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "The creature collapsed and lay still on"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "the forest floor. The humming stopped."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "The woods went silent. It was heavy and"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "oppressive with a quiet that follows"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "violence."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "Reed stood over the body, breathing"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "hard, trying to understand what he was"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "looking at. It wasn't human. The"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "creature was about 4t tall with grayish"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "skin and large dark almond-shaped eyes."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "The body looked biological but also"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "synthetic like living tissue stretched"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "over machinery. A suit made of flesh or"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "flesh made to look like suit. Reed threw"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "up. He just killed an intelligent being,"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "an extraterrestrial, a being that"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "traveled across space or dimensions to"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "end up dead in a forest clearing in"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "Washington state killed by a man with a"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "tree branch. Then he realized he needed"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "proof. He couldn't leave the body there."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "it would disappear or someone would find"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "it or he'd come back tomorrow and"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "convince himself that it never happened."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "He had to take it with him."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "Reed wrapped the creature in a foil"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "emergency blanket from his hiking pack."}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "It was heavier than it looked and it"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "smelled strange. It had a chemical odor"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "like ozone mixed with sulfur. He carried"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "it to his car, loaded it in the bag, and"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "drove home. He couldn't call the police."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "He couldn't call a hospital. He couldn't"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "tell anyone without sounding insane. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "he did the only thing that made sense."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "He put the alien in his chest freezer,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "shove it behind the frozen vegetables,"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "and close the lid."}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "Reed documented everything. He"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "photographed the creature from every"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "angle. He recorded video footage. That"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "footage became some of the most analyzed"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "alien evidence in history."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "In the footage, the creature's eyes are"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "open. They're moist. They reflect light"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "and they blink. It wasn't dead. It was"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "healing. Reed heard it screaming from"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "inside the freezer. But the screaming"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "was telepathic, a sound that bypassed"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "his ears and pierced directly into his"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "mind. It woke him at night. It followed"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "him during the day. A high-pitched,"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "agonizing shriek that sounded like a"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "dolphin in pain."}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "He also found an object at the crash"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "site, a black bracelet that he called"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "the link. When he wore it, he could"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "sense the creature's thoughts. He could"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "feel its rage, its fear, its desperate"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "attempts to reach others of its kind."}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "The bracelet connected him to the entity"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "in ways he didn't understand and"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "couldn't control."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "Within weeks, men showed up at Reed's"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "house. They weren't wearing suits like"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "the classic Men in Black. They wore"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "tactical gear, military equipment. They"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "carried weapons. the kind of hardware"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "you don't see outside of a combat zone."}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "They raided his home. They killed people"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "who had seen the evidence. They burned"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "his records, his photographs, his backup"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "files."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "Reed went on the run. He said the"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "government erased his identity. Deleted"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "his university records, his professional"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "licenses, his birth certificate. He"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "became a ghost. A man with no official"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "existence, hiding from people who wanted"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "him dead or silent."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": ">> This is Coast to Coast AM. I'm Martell"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "and tonight you're going to get what"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "you've been waiting for."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "Alien encounter that Dr. Jonathan Reed"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "had about 2 years ago and you're going"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "to hear the entire story in a moment."}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": ">> He appeared on Coast to Coast AM to tell"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "his story. He sounded exhausted. He"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "sounded broken like a man who lost"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": ">> This is all happening in seconds."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> I understand."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "At that point, I ran forward"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "and I don't know where the logic came"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "from. I don't know. There was no"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "forethought."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "I literally struck with this bat hitting"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "the creature. He played the audio of the"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "creature screaming. Listeners heard that"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "high-pitched trill cutting through the"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "static, the sound of the being from"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "another world crying out from inside a"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "freezer."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "The Jonathan Reed story is polarizing."}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "Skeptics say the alien was a rubber"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "doll, the video was a puppet, and Reed"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "was a con man trying to sell a book."}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "They point out that his credentials"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "can't be verified. They note that no one"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "has ever found the crash site or found"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "more evidence. But the details are"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "haunting. The violence of the encounter,"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "the way Suzie was destroyed in seconds,"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "reduced to powder by an entity that"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "moved faster than human reflexes could"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "follow."}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "The specific smell of the creature, that"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "ozone and sulfur chemical signature, the"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "telepathic screaming that Reed described"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "with the desperation of a man who"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "couldn't make it stop."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "And the video, if the footage is fake,"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "it's a masterpiece. The creature"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "breathes. Its chest rises and falls in"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "irregular rhythm. Its eyes are moist,"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "catching the light the way living tissue"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "catches light. When it blinks, the"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "movement is uneven. Not the synchronized"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "motion of a mechanical puppet, but the"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "imperfect organic movement of real"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "eyelids. In 1996, that kind of practical"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "effects work would have required a"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "professional studio. Jonathan Reed was a"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "psychologist, not a special effects"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "artist. He had no background in filmm,"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "no access to Hollywood quality"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "materials, no clear reason to destroy"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "his own life or a hoax. Because his life"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "was destroyed, Reed spent years in"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "hiding. He lost his career, his home,"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "his identity. He became a paranoid boy"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "saw on late night radio, playing"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "recordings that most people dismissed as"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "fantasy. Hoaxers usually profit from"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "their lives. Reed never got rich, never"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "got famous, he got erased. The freezer"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "is what makes this story different from"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "every other alien encounter. It grounds"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "the cosmic horror in everyday life. We"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "all have freezers full of ice cream,"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "frozen vegetables, leftovers we'll never"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "eat. Jonathan Reed kept a healing"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "extraterrestrial in his waging between"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "the frozen peas and the ice cube trays."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "He slept in the next room while a being"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "from another world repaired itself in"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "the cold and the dark. He heard it"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "screaming into his mind. And every"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "morning he had to walk past that freezer"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "to make his coffee. That's the horror of"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "the Jonathan Reed story. The aftermath,"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "the realization that you've brought"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "something home that you can't explain,"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "that you can't control, and can't let"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "anyone see. The barrier between normal"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "life and cosmic nightmare is exactly as"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "thick as a freezer door. So, next time"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "you go hiking and your dog runs into the"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "brush, think twice before you follow."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "Things in the woods don't want to be"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "found. 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But if you got to buy"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "merch, become a member on YouTube."}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "YouTube members get 10% off everything"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "in the W file store forever. So, if"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "you're going to spend 40 bucks on"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "t-shirts and festival mugs, become a"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "member on on YouTube for three bucks."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "Pays for itself. And that money goes to"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "the team, not to me. Those are the"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "plugs. I got through them as fast as I"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "could. And that's going to do it. Till"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "next time, be safe, be kind, and know"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Oh"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "I played Philippia in Area 51. A secret"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "code inside the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "well as music singing like I should."}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "becomes the truth, my friends."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "And it never ends."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "M's home with MK out. of being only true"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "unaware."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "Did Stanley Cubric fake the moon landing"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "alone on a film set? I would shadow"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "the well just fought the smiling man."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "I'm told"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "and his name was cold."}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "I can't agree."}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "Dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "on Thursday night"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "All I ever wanted was to be the truth."}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "to the world"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "through the night."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "The math man silence and the solar storm"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "still come to a gather the secret city"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "underground. Mysterious"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "number stations, Planet Circle, Project"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "Stargate, and what the Dark Watchers"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "found"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "The black nights at a light."}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "So I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "fish and your fish on Thursday nights"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "when they chase you and me all through"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "the night."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "on Thursday. That's when they change"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "All I ever wanted was to give the truth."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "all through"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "Girl loves to dance."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "Girl loves to dance on the dance floor"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "because she is a camel. Camels love to"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "dance when the feeling is right."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Today I'm talking with Chris Bledsoe, a"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "North Carolina businessman who in 2007"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "was facing the end of everything. His"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "company had collapsed. He was dying from"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Crohn's disease. And he went down to the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Capefir River with his teenage son and"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "three of his workers to fish. What"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "happened next changed his life. And"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "honestly, it's one of the most unusual"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "cases in modern UFO history. Chris and"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "all five witnesses experienced multiple"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "orbs, creatures with glowing red eyes,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "and a massive tic tac-shaped craft, and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "four hours of missing time. Chris came"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "home healed from his Crohn's disease. 4"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "hours of missing time, and he came back"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "healed. H meanwhile, I lose 4 hours on"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Tik Tok and come back with Carp Finn."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> And here's where it gets interesting."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Since 2007, senior officials from the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "CIA, NASA, and even the Vatican have"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "been quietly investigating him. Former"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "CIA officer Jim Seivan wrote the foreign"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to his book. A NASA engineer spent years"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "trying to debunk him and couldn't."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Oh, NASA tried to debunk him, huh?"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "That's the tell human. When NASA tries"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "to debunk you, you're over the target."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> I agree. We're going to talk about the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "encounter, the healing, the beings, and"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the entity Chris calls the lady, a"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "divine feminine presence that's been"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "appearing to him since 2012."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Yeah, at least she's bringing him"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "healing. Whenever a feminine shows up at"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "my door, she's usually bringing legal"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "documents."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> Okay, let's get back to work. This one"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "goes places you don't expect. I really"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "enjoy the conversation. Let's go down to"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "the basement."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Chris, thanks for coming today."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> Thank you for having me, AJ."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> I am so excited."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> It's my Me, too. It's my honor. Been a"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "big fan for a long time."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Oh, don't say that. You don't have to"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "say that. I"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> have been."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "So, um, it, so if you know my show, and"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "I'm just going to recap this for the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "audience, at the end of the Y files, I"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "do a segment debunking and analysis. I"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "don't do that here. This is about"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "telling the story and just kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "exploring your experiences."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> So, if you feel any push back, it's not"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "this isn't a gotcha show. This is we're"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "we're going to talk about your story."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "I guess it all starts at the river."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> What brought you to the river?"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> Well, it actually started before the"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "river. Okay. And and let's back up to"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "about 2001"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "when the World Trade Center disaster"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "happened. At that time, I had been in"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "business nearly 20 years and uh building"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "upwards of 100, 120 or 30 houses every"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "year and was one of the biggest builders"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "in the in in in our county and one in"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "the state"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "private company."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "And uh when when that disaster happened,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "being that my business is based in a"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "military town, Fort Bragg, the housing"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "sales just stopped suddenly. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "buying. And so here I am with uh $18"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "million invested in property and the"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "interest rates had gone up to like 8%."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "And uh on borrowed money it was it was"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "costing me $100,000 a month."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "We fast forward and I was dealing with"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Crohn's and that made it worse. It got"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "worse and worse and worse. And by the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "time 2004 come along, I was in the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "hospital having and I write about this"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "in my book. What happened there? Had a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "near-death experience from a doctor"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "poisoning me. I'd lost everything. Took"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "me 5 years to go through all the savings"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "I had and and liquidating all I could,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "but I paid the banks off and sold the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "property, but I was left with nothing."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the near death happened in ' 04"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and uh early05 I was still recovering."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "By summer of06"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "I was just getting to where I could go"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "back to work. Uh I was still sick with"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Crohn's, right? And I just had this this"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "poisoning in the hospital by a doctor."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> And I'd love to get into that at some"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "point maybe later today because you've"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "had two NDEs."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> Yeah. one from a gunshot when I was 10"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> and one from over medication not"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "checking my vital my liver and my blood"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "work right they just doctor just didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "he he he failed to do it and it caused"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "me to go into toxic shot metal poisoning"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "they call it"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> and so here I am now all this happened"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "sick I'm recovering"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "um I'm at I'm at the end of my rope I"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "had a million-dollar home four kids"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "living on the golf course for all these"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "years and now I'm in a mobile home"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "with uh B getting free lunch money from"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "school. How and how debilitating that"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "was and demeaning and but that led me to"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "the river."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> What what led you to the river? What was"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "that decision?"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> Um well it wasn't my decision but it was"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "I started back to work. uh just the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "first job my dad convinced me to go out"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and look after a big house that he was"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "contracted to build on the coast 2 hours"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "away. So I took a crew of men and had"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "them working there and we worked 4"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "months in ' 06 from October to December."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "And when December comes along, um it was"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "right before Christmas, I didn't need to"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "go back. We had we were down to the last"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "10% of of what they owed us."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "um doing a punch list. So on the on the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "first day or 2nd of January, I sent the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "crew back, told them to to do their work"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "and uh bring me a check back. And that's"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "exactly what they did on January the 8th"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "of that day. They called me, \"Hey boss,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "we got your job done. We'd like to"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "celebrate. We don't have to drive out of"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "town for anymore. It' been 4 months"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "they've been going in two hours away.\""}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "And so"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "I I was at home, my wife was at home,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "she was off with the rest of the kids,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "but it was Chris Junior and I there. And"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "uh so we agreed to go fishing in the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "middle of the day in January. And it was"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "uh about 2:30 when we got to the river."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "And of course, I was very um I was"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "having a hard time mentally, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "uh depressed and struggling about. And"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "so I didn't fish. I had my son there."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "He's 17 then. These three grown men,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "they were crew leaders. They were doing"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "roofing and framing and that people that"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "worked with our family for my dad for"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "years and years."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "And so I thought it'd be nice to get"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Chris Junior down out the house. And um"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "so we get to the river 2:30 and I left"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "walking. I told him once I got him set"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "up and I left walking um about 3:30 or"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "4. Why did you lay off?"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> Well, I was wanting to get away and"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "think, you know, I wasn't in deficient."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "I just wanted to make sure they were in"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "their they were I'm a manager, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "So, I managed to cruise them in. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "felt like they were they were sitting on"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the bank with a little stick with forks"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and their poles. Yeah. So, they were all"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "set up."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": ">> They're good."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> Yeah, they're good. I'm going to go find"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "I'm going to go talk to whoever's up"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> Okay. So, you had the intention?"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Yes. So I left walking and I went."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Imagine you go to the dead end of a a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "culde-sac. Drive down in the woods and"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "it dead ends into a round grassy area"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "about a acre. Well, I walked on in the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "culdeac"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to the back of it looking for deer."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Really not looking for anything but away"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "time right from me. So I'm sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "beside a big tree and it starts getting"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "dark in the woods a lot earlier than out"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "in the open. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "I think it was 4:45 I come walking out"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "of the woods and walked up to where they"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "were fishing and um I said, \"You guys"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "want to go home or you want to fish some"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "more?\" And they're like, \"We just got"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "here. We want to do some more.\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "\"Well, it's going to get cold tonight."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Better get a fire going.\" So we"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "everybody stopped fishing and all four"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "of us um"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "there were five of us. It was me, Chris"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Junior, and three guys. There were five"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "all five of us went around the culdeac"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "picking up dead wood dead falling had a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "huge pile of wood standing uh sitting"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "beside the bank and a little fire going."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "So about 10 after 5 that was the fire"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "was going and I said"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "you know it's going to be dark soon. I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "going to walk up to the field the way we"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "came in not the end of the cot. I went"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "walked a/4 mile up to the field"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and it's up it's uphill. It's 100 foot"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "of elevation from the riverbank where"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "we're fishing to this cornfield. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "flat field. There's a gate and I'll"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "share the photos of where the gate where"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "I was standing. And um just before I got"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "to the top of that hill"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "um and it's about 15 or 20 minutes after"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "5 now, so it's not dark yet, you know."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "It probably didn't get fully dark until"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "this the the sun was setting behind the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "trees. When I got up there,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "I walked up that hill and when I got"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "near the top, I could see the trees on"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "the far side. I couldn't see the field"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "cuz it's up here, but I could see what I"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "thought was the top of the sun sticking"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "up right above the hill up there. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "look down cuz it was muddy and I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "walking. And I'd look up and I'd walk"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "another step. And when I got up to the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "top of that hill where I could see, I"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "said, \"Dang, that don't look like the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "sun. That's really weird.\" It was it was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "fire going around this thing. So I I"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "looked down, took two more steps, and"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "when I did, I could see a wider per"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "peripheral because, you know, I got"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "trees on either side, and the higher up"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "I get, the more my views spread."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "There was another one sitting right"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "beside it that I didn't see to start"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "with. So now I've got two huge balls of"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "fire."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> How far away are they?"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> They were probably 300 yd."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> Okay. A good ways away."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> 200 feet in the air setting right above"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the trees and and just this flame going"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "around them and these little tips of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "fire was shooting off these things. So I"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "immediately froze. I was I'm a"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "commercial rated pilot. I knew what I"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "was looking at wasn't anything from us"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "at all. And I'd never really studied"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "UFOs. I was dealing with poor children"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "and sickness, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "And uh so it scared me and I squatted"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "down, actually got down on my stomach"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "and I would raise my head up and look"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "above the hill cuz I've still got some"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "more hill in front of me and I'd look at"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it and I' I was just mesmerized. But I"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "started getting worried. Oh, my son's"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "down the hill. I need to get back down"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "there. Tell him what I'm looking at."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "And the minute I decided to run,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "I had it in my thoughts, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "run. So I I turned my body and I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "looking back behind me at it, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "and I stood up to run. And the minute I"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "stood up to run, right up here above me,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "another one appeared and shot down right"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "in front of me. And at that moment, AJ,"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "I knew that it knew what I was thinking."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "I knew that it saw me. And I knew I felt"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "like a like I was a I was captured. I"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "was a a lab rat. I I I didn't know what"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "to think. It was just overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "knowing that this thing I was on its"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "radar. That's when it all changed. When"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "it came at me,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> you're a hunter and now you're on the"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "other side of it."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "explanation."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> And so you knew you knew it was watching"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "you. Was that an was that like an animal"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "instinct or did you hear it, feel it?"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> I didn't know it was watching me. The"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "two I was looking at. I thought I was,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "you know, hiding from this thing, but I"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "was thinking, I got to run. Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "what am I looking at? So, I'm thinking"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "and the minute I go to run, this other"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "one appeared. And I knew immediately"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "that it knew that I was going to run and"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "it wanted and it knew and it it it was"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "connected to my thoughts and I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "get away."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "was the first thing I I knew it. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "but luckily"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "uh they wiped my memory. So, I had that"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "moment of fear and then all of a sudden,"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "oh my god. And then the lights went out"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> just just everything just"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> went out"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> went out dark. And so the next thing I"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "realize I'm walking up to the fire. I"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "don't remember leaving at the top of the"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "hill. I don't remember any of that. I"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "just remember the last 50 or so feet"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "going up to the fire. So, I'm walking in"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "the dark. They can't see me coming. And"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "these three guys are standing at the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "campfire. There no fishing no longer."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "They're standing there and the fires"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "burnt down to very little fire. And I"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "left. It was pretty good size fire. And"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "um that scared them bad when I snuck up"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "on them."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> And I'm like, \"God, you won't believe"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "what I just saw.\""}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "They're like, \"Where have you been?\" I"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "said, \"I was just up at the hill. I"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "haven't been gone but 20 minutes.\" And"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "they're like, \"No, you've been gone all"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "night.\""}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "And we've been looking for you all"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "night."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": ">> I said, \"Well, where's Chris Junior? He"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "wasn't there.\" And so, uh, they said,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "\"Well, he went back to Culac where you"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "went earlier today looking for you while"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "we took your truck and drove up and down"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "the road.\" And one guy stayed at the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "fire the whole time. And so I panicked"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "where my son's down in that forest and"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "it goes for 50 miles to Wilmington and"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "very little to nothing in there. So I"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "could I was just dreaming he was lost,"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "you know. And then"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> so I panicked and took off running, ran"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "to the back of the culdeac where I'd"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "gone in that day and he knew where I'd"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "gone cuz he'd watching me all the time."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "and I cried out to him. I started"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "shouting for him and nothing. Couldn't"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "hear anything. So I started making my"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "way into the forest and I got about 10"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "ft in there and he I heard him getting"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "up off the ground. He was laying on his"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "stomach underneath these real thick"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "shrubs and he come up and he was uh in"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "tears and he's like, \"Oh my god, daddy,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "why'd you leave me?\""}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "And and I said, \"I didn't leave you,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "son. I just walked up to the field. I've"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "been gone 20 minutes.\" He said, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "you've been gone all night. We've been"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "looking. So, I'm I'm like, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "what's happening?"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": ">> What's happened?\""}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> But, you know, I wasn't scared anymore."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> You weren't?"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": ">> Not at all. From that point forward, it"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "was like amusement. My son is freaked"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "out. He's in shock. These three guys are"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "in shock or they're they're terrified,"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "right? So, I drag him back to the fire."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "They hadn't displayed that yet, but"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "shortly they will. So, I took Junior"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "back to the fire where they were"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "standing. And they're very quiet cuz I"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "was telling them about this ball of"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "light I saw at the top of the hill. And"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Chris Junior's talking about this"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "creature that he had seen coming from"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "a/4 mile away. The the road at the end"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "of the culdeac is a/4 mile and then it"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "makes a left up"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "which is only an eighth of a mile."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Right? So he sees this light come out in"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "the road way down at the end. A red"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "glowing light."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "He thought it was a camera. I mean a a"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "flashlight cuz in the military they use"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "a lot of these red lenses on their"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "flashlights, right? So and he has guns"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "and infrareds. That's what he thought it"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "was. And there were two of them. They"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "went across the road about 3 ft off the"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "ground and then they came back out on"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the road and they started towards him"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "and he's standing back calling for me."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "The closer they got, the more afraid he"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "got."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Can he see what they are at this?"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, no. He sees these two"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "lights,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": ">> two red balls of light about big coming"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "towards him."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": ">> So, he crawls under these bushes trying"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "to get away just cuz he's afraid."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Couldn't go back to the fire cuz now"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "it's between him and the fire. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> All right. So, he's hiding and they get"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "within 15 20 ft of him and there are"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "these two little uh creatures that were"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "uh glowing. They could turn they it's"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "like a riostat. They could turn"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "themselves up and glow brighter or they"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "could turn themselves down to where they"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "looked almost translucent. And in a dark"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "night, they look just like almost black"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "figures there but with red eyes. If it"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "was their eyes that were red, that's"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "what he was seeing. Is it like a"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "humanoid shape?"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": ">> Yeah, they look like humans"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": ">> like"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> in a way. I I have a photo a picture I"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "drew painted I'll share with you so you"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "can I painted this in 2009. And so"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "anyhow,"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "I don't know what to think. My son's"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "crying. He's upset. He's seen creatures."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "He's complaining that I left him,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "abandoned him. I drag him back to the"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "fire. They're freaked out. These guys"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "are grown men, right? Tough country boys"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "that don't get afraid in the woods. So"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "now they're they're very quiet."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "Junior's talking about the creatures."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "I'm talking about the light. And all of"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "a sudden, one of the guys says, \"Look.\""}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "And we all look up and there's"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "between eight and nine, maybe 10 stars"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "bright. This is Venus that just appeared"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "above us. They just like come on and"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "then they just started flying around and"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "doing it's almost like somebody"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "choreographed it"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": ">> and they just appear out of the sky just"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "materialized."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Just materialized above us. They"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "were way up there."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> They were bright as Venus each one and"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "they were playing. They were flying out"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "and they'd come back together and we"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "were watching this and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "here comes three down and they land on"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "the other side of the river in front of"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "us and the river is only 60 or 70 yards"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "wide. It's not a big one, right? So here"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "they are on the other side of the river"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "in the woods and pandemonium set in."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "These guys freaked out. I'm not afraid."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "I'm mesmerized at whatever they did to"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "me. I was no longer afraid. I'd be angry"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "at you cuz you're so peaceful."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": ">> Yeah. And they were all they were angry"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "at me. They were panicked."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": ">> So we ran and jumped in the truck."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "There's three men in the back seat and"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Chris and I in the front of a Ford"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "four-door Ford pickup."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": ">> They didn't let you drive. I hope"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> I was driving. You just was your arm out"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "with the radio on there screaming at"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> Well, I'm starting up the path, right?"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> Out of there. And this this road is"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "muddy. Real muddy. And the bushes were"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "like scrubbing the mirrors as we went"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "down through there. And they're"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "screaming every breath, \"Go, go, go.\""}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "And Chris Junior's just want to get"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "home, Dad. I want to get home."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "One of them told me, told Muon when we"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "reported it, that they had witnessed"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "this red ball of light come out of the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "woods and come following the truck as we"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "were driving up out of there. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "undoubtedly, they were still there."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "They'd never left. They just went"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "invisible."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": ">> Right. So when we got up to the top of"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "the hill to where I had my experience,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "we went up that hill so fast it almost"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "went airborne when I went over. It was a"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "real steep, you know, like a incline"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "there. And there in front of us was the"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "same two red balls of fire and the same"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "exact spot that moved. This is 4 hours"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "later, right? The third one that"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "appeared and frightened me"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "is no longer a ball of fire, but a tic"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "tac. It's a glowing white egg."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> While you're still in the truck."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": ">> Yeah. It's in the road in front of us."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "The one that came over and said, \"I see"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "you.\""}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": ">> That's the one that took me. Now it's an"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "egg in the road. It's not red anymore."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "It's glowing white. It's 45, 50 foot"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "long. And it's like a football or an"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "egg."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": ">> Can you see that? It's a structure that"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "it's a craft or is it just light?"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": ">> It was all light."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": ">> Just light."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": ">> And there was light was doing this. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "like sparkles of light going around. It"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "almost look like spikes coming out of"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "it. And this thing just pivots. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "only 5 ft off the ground, 150 yards from"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "us in the road. Pivots, starts towards"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "us. And as it gets closer, it starts"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "rising up. But right over my sunroof. I"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "opened the sunroof and watched it"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "through it. and all the guys were"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "looking out and it was probably 100 ft"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "in the air, totally silent. And then it"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "pivoted and shot off like out of a"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "canyon to the north. I hit the gas and"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "we took off"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "and there become a fight between the"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "guys. Who gets to go home first?"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": ">> Are are the are the fire orbs still with"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "you at that point?"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": ">> There was just balls of I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "the fire ones now. We left them. They"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "were still sitting there."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": ">> So, we left because this thing's coming"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "out. It had a path block. We couldn't go"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "because the road was blocked. But once"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "it went over us, it was it was beating"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "on my seat screaming. I want to see my"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "wife before before us over. We thought"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "the world was coming to an end that we"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "were being invaded. I didn't understand"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "what was happening. Um, you know, it did"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "something to me."}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Here's an important thing."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "We left from that point"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "uh racing."}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "Only a mile and a half down the street"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "is where I was shot when I was 10 years"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "old, right? Or maybe mile and 3/4. Well,"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "at a mile and a half is where my first"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "wife was killed. And I found her there"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "when I was just a young 21year-old, 20"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "yearear-old guy. I'd married"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "this uh sweetheart that I'd had for four"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "or five years. And on the 11th month and"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "28th day of our marriage, 2 days before"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "our 1year anniversary, I'd been out of"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "town fishing, hunting,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "uh not fishing, hunting, my dad and I"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "and some his hunting club and we' taken"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "boats down on the coast and and were um"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "running dogs on islands, running chasing"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "deer on islands, right? I grew up doing"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "And so I knew that she was going to be"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "at this party out in the country. Bunch"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "of friends since we were young, we'd"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "always had a cornfield. They'd go hang"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "out instead of trouble, right? And we"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "went to bars and all that. We"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> found trouble somewhere."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> Yeah. We were out in the country and and"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "and the law found out about it. They'd"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "come and raid us every now and then,"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "catch young kids drinking beer and"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "stuff. But so that's we were at a party."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "I came in at 9:00 and I took off to the"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "party. And um I write about this in"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "detail in my book. What why I left"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "uh her one of her old boyfriends was all"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "snuggled up with her when I got there."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> And it it this I turned around and I"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "left. I spoke to him and said, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "going home.\" So I started home. went two"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "miles down the road and"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "um turned around to go back to meet her"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "because I I'm like I'm not let this guy"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "take what's mine. I was just mad, right?"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "I turned around to go back"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": ">> and on the way back and this very sharp"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "curb there was a a car laying on its"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "side was laying and I could see the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "bottom side of it and I hit the brakes"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "and jumped out of the car. Didn't know"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "who it was. It was in the front yard of"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "someone's home that had rolled up, went"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "through the curb and rolled end over end"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "up in these people's yard."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "I jumped out. I ran up to the car,"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "looked in, nobody. Then still didn't"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "know what car it was, whose it was. It"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "was dark and it's laying on its side."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "So, as I'm looking in the car, the front"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "door of the house opens. The tires are"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "still turning on the car and the motor"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "is still running. Okay."}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": ">> Laying on it side."}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "I ran to the door. Uh they came out and"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "they looked out. They had heard it. And"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "I said, \"You better call the ambulance"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "uh rescue. Somebody's probably hurt. I"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "can't find who who it was.\" So I left"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "and started back to the road. And that's"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "where I tripped over her laying in the"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "shade."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": ">> This is your first wife, Dana?"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. She was laying in the shade"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "of the pump house, water pump."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "But that night when we left the river, I"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "blamed myself for that all those years"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "like I could have that I was part of it"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "and uh but I wasn't you know"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:26", "text": ">> you forgiven yourself at this point."}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:27", "text": ">> I couldn't."}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": ">> You couldn't."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": ">> Yeah. And but that night when we left"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "the river, everybody's freaking out,"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "scared. I'm in La La Land for what had"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "just happened. I don't know. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "afraid. It's the biggest thing I"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "remember. So, we get to that mile and a"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "half down from where we were. We go"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "through that curb. There's this big"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "huge thing hovering right over where she"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "was killed."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:55", "text": ">> And I slow down and I'm trying to stop."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "And they're beating on my seat. Don't"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "stop. And I'm like, I just want to see."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "I want to see. And they're like having"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "nothing to do with it. And it spoke to"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "me. It just put this vision in my head"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "and it said, you have to forgive"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "yourself. She's fine. don't worry about"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "this any longer. And so that was the"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "first time in 25 years that I had a bit"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "of peace over that. So all that together"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "over the next couple of years is what"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "made me understand this thing was so"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "much bigger than some alien coming from"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "the pleades to right aggravate me. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "So, but anyhow,"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "not to drag that holy van out but too"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "long, we we dropped the guys off. Chris"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "Junior and I head home. He didn't want"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "to go back that way. Was going back"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "towards the house was that way. Shortcut"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "because we'd had to drive back under"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "that power line and where this thing"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "was. So, we took the long way around."}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "Got home. It was probably 11:30 and uh"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "Christopher ran through the house"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "locking everything, locking the He'd"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "opened the bathroom door with no window"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "in it, turned the light on and locked"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "the door. He had every door locked, all"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "the windows shut, all the flood lights"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "on."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "I'm in my room trying to see on TV, you"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "know, if the military is coming. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "just know there's an invasion, right?"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "cuz it wasn't one or it was probably 15"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "in total that we were seeing that night."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "Nine or 10 at once and then others up on"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "the hill. No,"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": ">> I've heard Chris Jr. talk recently and"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "he still struggles with the story."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": ">> Yeah, he does. Yeah. Yeah. It was"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "traumatic."}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "Um you can never get over those things,"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "but you know, he's 36 now and he has a"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "baby on the way. He has two children and"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "one coming and um he's very happy and uh"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "he understands it now a whole lot more."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "He ran from it for a long time and it"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "weren't all his fault. It was pressure"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "from the community and the church that"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "caused a whole lot of problem for us."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": ">> Well, when you got home from the"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "experience,"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "um your wife Ivon wasn't wasn't there"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "yet."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": ">> No, she was off with her mother. staying"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "with her mom. Uh they were doing"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "something for a couple of days. And so"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "we're home. We're home now. The house is"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "locked down. Junior comes in my room"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "where I met and he's like, \"Have you"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "seen anything?\" I'm like, \"No, this is"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "like total normal. I don't know what's"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "happening.\""}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": ">> Are you still peaceful?"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": ">> Yeah, I am. Okay. But he's not. He's"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "He's in shock. Sure."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> And um suddenly my dad lived next door."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "We lived out in the country on uh our"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "houses beside one another. and and he"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "had a dog kennels there where he'd"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "raised hunting dogs all his life before"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "I was born he had dogs he'd have 30 or"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "40 all the time and one time he had 104"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "but he had 15 hounds then and they were"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "all of a sudden they started barking all"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "of them and hounds barked very loud big"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "mouthy deep voice and I knew that what"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "they were saying was they were scared"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "they were doing what I'd call a boo"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "bark. You know, they were woo woo woo"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "woo. You hear dogs do that. They they"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "hear or see something, but they don't"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "know what it is."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": ">> I've seen that with bear hunting. They a"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "bear come out on a dog. The scent along"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "will put them in panic."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Is that what you thought it was? A bear?"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": ">> It was a bear or a deer or something."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "So, all the dogs are barking. Then I"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "thought maybe somebody's breaking in"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "dad's shop. first thought that was"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "somebody's breaking in the shop because"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "the dog kennels next to his garage."}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "He and I share this big 40 foot garage"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "the we had boats and fishing gear and"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "tools and"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "so I'm imagining the dogs seeing"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "somebody going in that shop and um I"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "said Christopher he's freaked out now"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "he's scared these dogs are barking and"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "I'm going outside I'm going to see who's"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "breaking in that shop and he didn't want"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "any part of that. He's like, \"Please"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "don't go out there, daddy. Please"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "don't.\" I'm like, \"Look, we won't take a"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "flashlight. We got Rosie here. She's 110"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "lb Chesapeake. She'll keep anything away"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "from us. Um, we'll just sneak down there"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "and see who we see. Maybe scare them"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "away.\""}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "And um so I opened the door. He had me"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "by the back of the shirt and he never"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "turn me loose. We walked across the yard"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "into the pathway to the dog kennel. Was"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "down in the woods behind the house. We"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "walk in there and I look and they're all"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "looking out the back of the kennel."}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "They're not looking toward the garage."}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "They're looking in the forest."}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:44", "text": ">> Uh-oh."}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:45", "text": ">> Behind it. So immediately I thought"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "maybe it's a bear,"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:52", "text": ">> Because there were barking every breath"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "facing into the forest, all 15. Plus my"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "Chesapeake, she's frozen. Her hair is"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "standing up and she's pointing in the"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "bushes. So I'm whispering to Chris. I"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "said, \"I'm going to send her in on"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "whoever's in there or whatever. Well,"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "let's just run back out to the back of"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "the property. We'll make a run for it."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "We'll go back and hide behind this big"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "oak tree and see what she pushes out of"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "there.\" Typical hunting. That's what we"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "hunted doing that. Try to cut the dogs"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "off, put them in and get in front of"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "them and see what comes out."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": ">> They're trained to do this."}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And so I bumped her on the rear"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "and she took off immediately. So we took"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "off running. We didn't have no time. You"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "got to run hard to get down this path"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "and back to the far yard and to the"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "back."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "And I felt Christopher turn a loose when"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "I I made a left turn and and the grass"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "was getting frosty and I slipped and he"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "turned loose and I thought, well, I just"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "outrun him. So, I ran hard as I can. I"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "ran up to this tree and stopped myself."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "I ran up to it in a full run and and I'm"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "trying to be quiet, but I'm breathing,"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "you know, heavy breath and I'm trying to"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "calm my breath and I'm against the tree"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "and the dog's coming straight at me. You"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "very loud, you know, it's quiet at night"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "and this thing you hear it coming"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "through the forest is real loud. So I"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "turned to look back to see if"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "Christopher was coming. And this all"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "happened so quick. And when I looked"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "back, he was gone. He didn't he didn't"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "come. He took he couldn't stand anymore."}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "So he ran to the house. When he turned"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "loose, he took a right. I took a left."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": ">> But when I did, AJ,"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "there standing behind me about arms"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "length was this little figure. Yay."}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "Tall, which I painted it and it was"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "glowing white about 3T, 3 and 1/2 ft."}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": ">> Three feet. Uh, no more than three"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "probably. And it had it was glowing"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "white. And it had uh what looked like a"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "triangle on its chest, a dark area that"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "was triangle shaped. And it had red"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "glowing eyes about this big around. And"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "they were round, perfectly round glowing"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "eyes. And it scared me. Scared me bad"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "when I saw it. I'm, \"Oh my god.\" So I"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "backed myself up to the tree to try to"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "get away from it. But I got a tree, you"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "know, I'm looking at it. So I turn and"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "face it and I dropped my hands and I"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "said, \"I surrender.\""}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "the dog's coming. Still coming."}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:23", "text": ">> Rosie's barking."}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:24", "text": ">> She's barking every breath. Coming very"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "close."}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": ">> So she sees these."}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": ">> Well, she's Yeah, she senses it."}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": ">> Um I think the energy dogs have a way of"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "seeing things we can't. Right."}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": ">> So it it is definitely the dogs coming."}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "This all happened very quick. I'm facing"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "this 3-foot thing that's glowing. I'm"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "panicked that I'm going to die. I"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "thought it was going to kill me. And I"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "said, um, I said, I I surrender. I don't"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "mean you any harm. And it said, you"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "don't understand. We're here to help"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "you, not hurt you. That's exactly what"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "it said. And then the dog comes out of"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "the bushes and this thing vanishes right"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "in front of me. Just immediately"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "vanished."}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:09", "text": ">> Did it speak or you heard this in your"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "mind? I heard it in my mind loud."}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "Sounded like a man's voice. Deep,"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "thunderous, loud. That's one of the few"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "times I ever heard audible voice. You"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "know, you don't hear voices, but I heard"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "that one plain."}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": ">> I heard when the lady came in 2012, this"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "audible voice."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> Yeah, I would definitely arise just like"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:36", "text": ">> And so it vanishes. And when Mufund did"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "their investigation, that whole tree"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "started decaying and dying and rotted"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "down. This they found some kind of"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "something on it that radiated it and"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "killed it. That's what they said. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "I go back to the house"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "thinking, how I'm going to tell"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "Christopher about this, right? I better"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "not say anything."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:59", "text": ">> Good call."}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And so I made it to the house and"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "now I'm panicked. I was a smoker then. I"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "had to have a cigarette. I got to have a"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "cigarette. I'm smoking, you know."}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": ">> That's why you could not run this thing."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": ">> I know, right? Right. And so I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "to to find a cigarette and and and Chris"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "is like, \"You can't go outside. You"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "can't go outside to smoke.\" So I go over"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "to my back of my in my sun room and put"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "my feet knees on the couch and reach"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "over behind it and started raising the"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "window up, right? The blinds. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "even get the wind up. When I raised the"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "blinds, the flood lights on that corner"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "was illuminating this 7 foot tall being"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "that was walking towards me, towards the"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "house. I could see it in the flood light"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "20 ft away."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "That scared me when I"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": ">> What did that look like?"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": ">> Like the being on the crabwood crop"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "circle."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": ">> Okay. So, this is also a humanoid."}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Very tall, skinny thing. And it"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "was uh it was scary looking. So I I"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "grabbed Junior by the arm and didn't"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "tell him. I said, \"Uh, we don't want to"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "stay here tonight. We're going to go"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "somewhere else.\" So we went four or five"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "miles away and this cuz midnight 1:00"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "where we going to go, right? So we went"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "down to a big hayfield, parked in the"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "middle where I could see in every"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "direction until the sun come up. I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "having to manage my child. He's he's"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "panicking. Have you ever heard of the"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "incident at Devil's Den?"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> I've heard of Devil's Den. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:29", "text": ">> it's almost the same creatures."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": ">> It's small creatures with red eyes and"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "and a very large being with them."}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:37", "text": ">> Wow. I never knew that."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> And they're they're walking around the"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "forest and they're picking up different"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "objects and surveying them. And"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> that's what they were doing with Chris."}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "He was sitting there pinned down out of"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "the bushes and they were 20 ft from him,"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "two of them. And one was on its knees"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "picking up bottles and cans and sticks"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "and it would look at him and put them on"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "the ground while the other one was"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "staring at him the whole time. And he"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "said that he couldn't scream. He"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "couldn't yell. He felt frozen. The when"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "it looked at him, he had absolutely no"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "control over his self. He couldn't talk."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "He couldn't move. And he felt a lot of"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "trauma there."}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:15", "text": ">> At Devil's Den, that large creature had"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "a triangle on its chest."}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:17", "text": ">> Get the heck out. Mhm. I had never heard"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:20", "text": ">> It shows up in all these stories. The"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "triangle."}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:22", "text": ">> I never heard that."}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": ">> Makes sense why NASA come calling. I"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "said, \"We'd like to talk about that"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "little being with the triangle on his"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "chest.\""}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> Well, where are we um chronologically at"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "this point? So, you're at uh you're with"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "Junior. Your wife your wife is back yet."}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": ">> She comes back 2 days later. Okay."}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": ">> So, this is on a Tuesday night, I think."}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": ">> Okay. by the end of the week, Thursday"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "or Friday, she comes home with the other"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "kids and I had the greatest story to"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "tell and um and it was scaring my wife"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "because you know she being raised in the"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "Pentecostal Holiness Church and her"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "family is is they're the part of the"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "they're part of the whole movement. They"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "brought it to North Carolina. They're"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "her grandmas and and ancestors. So they"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "were very big in the conference. So I"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "had that whole power"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "uh on my head there"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "it got but the first night that was the"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "first night the end of the first night"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": ">> when you were telling her the story were"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "you telling it from that position of"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "peace or because I can't see her"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "reacting positively?"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": ">> Well I was telling her the story and it"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "was couldn't get a word in cuz Chris Jun"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "was telling it too. Right."}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:45", "text": ">> Right. and um she didn't want to believe"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "it. And then when the other guys came a"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "couple days later, they came back to the"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "house to to bring back my fishing poles"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "cuz we left everything on the river."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "Sure. We left coolers and all sitting"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "right there, sticks still with rods in"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "them. And um so she questioned them and"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "immediately"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:08", "text": ">> the church condemned it as the devil."}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:11", "text": ">> How did how did the church find out?"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "Well, that's my wife's family is the"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "church. My mom and my family, they're"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "all big in the church and we live in the"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "Bible belt, right?"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:18", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": ">> So, the whole community."}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": ">> Did she tell them because she was"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "worried?"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": ">> Well, she was worried how to handle this"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "with the children because the children"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "were frightened."}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:31", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": ">> My 10-year-old daughter,"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "um, she thought I was interrupting their"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "school. They It just disrupted"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "everything. to school, their sleep,"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "and I was a bit I'd have to say my wife"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "is a very I love her. We've been"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "together 43 years, and I couldn't live"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "without her, right? She she's the calm"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "person. She's the mother, right? And"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "she's worried about school in the"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "morning. And I'm like Dustin Hoffman all"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "of a sudden."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:01", "text": ">> You're the mashed potatoes."}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:04", "text": ">> Yeah, I was just like that. And I still"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "am. I mean, I came home"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "and she said, \"I looked wild in the"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "eyes.\" I was just telling us, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "god, you won't believe what happened.\""}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "And and when she calls um her family and"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "my family and all that, then it turns"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "into it was a demonic experience. You're"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "playing with the devil cuz the Christian"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "church believes, you know, not the"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "Catholics. No, no, not"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": ">> with the Protestants, they preach is the"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "devil, not knowing,"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "it's just part of their any light you"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "see, if it's not of God, it's got to be"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "evil."}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": ">> How did you know it wasn't?"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": ">> Cuz it healed me. And it told me I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "here to help you, not hurt you."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:46", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": ">> But I struggled with what all that Who"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "was it? Was it an alien? It didn't"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "didn't act like what an alien it it knew"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "my prayer. It heard me. So I started"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "researching the Bible and I learned that"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "these chariots of fire."}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "Immediately it started making sense. So"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "I furthered my research into meeting Dr."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "Dian Pasula and Dr. George Zervos and a"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "whole lot of other religious scholars"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "and people that know this. and we"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "started digging into the text and"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "researching and have still researching."}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": ">> What did you find in your research of"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "the Bible that tracks with this story?"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": ">> Well, this is something"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "uh Diana gave me the the information."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:33", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:34", "text": ">> And she said, \"I'm going to give you"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "this. I can't talk about it, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "going let you I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "this. I want you to pay attention to"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "what I'm going to tell you.\" And that is"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "in the Bible."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "Throughout the Bible, Mark, Matthew,"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "Luke, Revelations, and even in Exodus,"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "there there is something called the"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "clouds of heaven. This will be in my"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "next book, by the way. But the clouds of"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "heaven. I'm like, \"What is that, Diana?\""}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "And she said, \"Well, these clouds, some"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "of them are talking, some of them are"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "shiny, some of them are feeding people,"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "some of them are protecting people.\" For"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "example, Exodus, it says, \"And an angel"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "of the Lord, went before the children of"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "Israel for 38 years in a pillar of a"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "cloud.\" Pillar meaning pylon or s"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "cylinder, right? Wherever that thing"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "went for 38 years, they camped"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "underneath it. It fed them mana in the"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "morning and it gave them uh shade by the"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "day and warmth and light at night for 38"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "years. Right? Matthew uh 26, Matthew 24"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "talks about Jesus. When I come back, I'm"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "coming in the clouds of heaven or on the"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "clouds of heaven. I'm going come back"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "the way I left from here. and and he"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "left. It says he left. He was taken up"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "in a cloud. So Diana educated me on this"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "very carefully"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "and there is just tons of evidence. Do"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "you know um Daniel 10."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:16", "text": ">> Oh um"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "talks about the the"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "he's made of topaz. He's made of light."}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:25", "text": ">> If that's the right book. Well, that"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "that uh Daniel chapter 10 talks about"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "his angelic vision, what he saw. Daniel"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "saw an angel. Daniel chapter 10 talks"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "about and there stood before him this"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "this angel that was glowing and it was"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "so shiny. It looked like topaz and it"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "had red eyes like fire."}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:47", "text": ">> Like torches."}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Like fire. Torches. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "And in Ezekiel 40, he talks about"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "meeting a messenger made of shiny bronze"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "who shows them this temple of the"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "future."}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Crazy, huh?"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:06", "text": ">> And then in Enoch 19, Archangel Uriel"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "takes him up above the clouds and shows"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "him"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": ">> the origins of the wind and and the"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "earth and takes him over Egypt and all"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "these places. And I thought you had an"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "experience kind of like that, didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:22", "text": ">> That's where they took me. So I I didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "know what happened during those four"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "hours. Yeah. What happened? I had no"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "clue. But after Dr. Okonnell came from"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "Harvard and he started working on me, he"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "said, \"You'll remember it all over"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "time.\""}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": ">> He was a student of Dr. Mack. No."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:39", "text": ">> Yep. John Mack. He trained under Mac."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "So, John Mack for folks listening um was"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "an expert psych psychiatrist"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "award-winning at Harvard who specialized"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "in abduction and experiences."}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:48", "text": ">> Yeah. He actually started all this"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "research. He did."}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:55", "text": ">> Well, Dr. Michael Oonnell was a student"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "of his and got his degrees there"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "he he started helping me um"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "with hypnosis to get rid of this"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "headache that I had. Every time I tried"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "to think about what happened, I'd get"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "this massive headache and I would"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "eventually pass out. did it numerous"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "times in front of investigators. My wife"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "was would tell you, you keep asking him"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "questions, he's not gonna he's going to"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "pass out on you because it it was such a"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "block in there. It would become this"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "pressure and it would get so painful"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "that I would just go I'd black out. He"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "removed that to where I could think"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "about it and it wasn't painful anymore."}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "And he said, \"If you learned everything"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "overnight, it would probably cause you"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "to melt down. So, we're going to program"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "your subconscious to reveal everything"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "over time. And that's what he did."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> So, immediately"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "u thing I started dreaming all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "weird dreams and I would start yelling"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "and crying in my sleep and all this and"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "it started scaring my wife and the kids."}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "I go to bed early cuz I get up early."}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "Well, they their nights, right? They'd"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "come sneaking in the room cuz they hear"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "me and record me in my sleep talking and"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:12", "text": ">> What were you saying?"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": ">> I was saying all kinds of things. In"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "fact, one crazy thing I was saying is"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "they took me to Egypt. It was like a a"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "virtual tour. Um being inside a bubble,"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "something clear, round. I could touch"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "the walls, but I couldn't see it. And I"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "was looking at this the Spinx and the"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "pyramids and Hatheror's temple and all"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "these obelisks and stuff and they were"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "narrating what I was seeing."}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": ">> I started first getting images, not the"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:47", "text": ">> Were they narrating like a tour guide in"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "the museum?"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": ">> Yep. Y"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:54", "text": ">> So there wasn't a spe like a message"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "was just this is Hatherther's Temple."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "This is"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I didn't know what it was. I"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "just saw it. Right."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:03", "text": ">> Right. And so that"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "that caused me to get into deep research"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "into"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "Egypt and I met Dr. Robert Gilbert that"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "ran the vesica institute. He's you know"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "he was um sacred geometry is what he"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "taught. Sadly he passed away last year"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "but he made a lot of sense to to what I"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "was seeing. And so it's been a long"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "journey trying to figure it out. I don't"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "have the answers like everybody thinks."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "It's more the more I learn the more I"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "learn. I don't know. Right. It's just a"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "big It's this is so big. We can't"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "imagine what is around us. And"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "but they took me up over the Midwest. I"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "saw"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "what I was crying in fear about. My wife"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "recorded one particular thing was I I"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "was saying in my sleep that they were"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "showing me Bigfoot on Mars of all"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": ">> Oh, come on."}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": ">> I'm not joking. I I saw it in a in a"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "dream or asleep. I was asleep that she"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "recorded that, but I remember seeing it"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "in the dream, you know, landing in this"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "bubble and here comes walking up these"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "creatures that were furry looking. So,"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "I'm she's asking me questions and I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "answering in my sleep. But um"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "it all began to to to to"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "center around"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "the the scary thing was and this is what"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "got um the powers that be interested"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "even more is that I saw the sun start to"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "grow in size in the sky. Before you get"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "to that, is this before what you call in"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "your book your 5 years of darkness?"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": ">> This was be this was in the 5 years of"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "darkness."}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": ">> Can you can you tell me a little bit"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "about how you went from this experience"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "where you you're feeling peaceful and"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "then now 5 years of dark that's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "darkness. What happened?"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:09", "text": ">> Well, why I call it that is uh I came"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "home with a story"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "that I'm Dustin Hoffman. They're looking"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "at me like, \"Look, he's crazy. He's lost"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "it.\" You know, he he's because I'm"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "saying all this weird stuff, right? And"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "I'm really like Dustin Hoffman. I'm"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "obsessed with with it bad and I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "control it. And um"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "that turned into a backfire cuz the more"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "I talked about it, the worse it got. And"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "it got so bad that I come home one day"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "and there's uh the sheriff pulls up in"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "the yard and these social workers. And"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "it got so bad that at school at"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "elementary schools and high schools,"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "they were questioning my kids cuz I was"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "on TV now and made a DVD in 2008, you"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "know, Muon did that and promised to"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "vindicate me and they made it worse by"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "far."}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": ">> That was a hit job. Yeah, it was a job."}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:10", "text": ">> And so now I've got to school"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "questioning my kids. Next thing I know,"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "social services is at my house trying to"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "take me out of the house from my family."}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "Oh, this is the darkness. For 5 years,"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "this went on. Just constant."}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:24", "text": ">> This it might be too personal a"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "question, but is your wife on your side"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "at this point?"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:31", "text": ">> Yeah, she's on my side, but it's out of"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "control now, right? everybody. She's"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "just trying to be a mom and and live her"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "normal life and and raise her four kids,"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "right? And um"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:46", "text": ">> are you still welcome in church?"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:48", "text": ">> Well, yeah. No. Um they told me if I I"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "had to completely stop talking about"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "this if I ever wanted to be involved in"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "the church anymore. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "\"Sorry, I am having church.\" To me, it"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "is church."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "It's not evil. It's not the devil. It's"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "something much greater and I aimed to to"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "pursue that."}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": ">> So, yeah, they kind of gave me that"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "ultimatum there. Although, I've been a"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "couple of times during Easter or"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "Mother's Day, you know, that I'll go"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "with the wife. But"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "well, I want us to take a break in just"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "a minute, but can you give us before we"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "go to break that final scene, that final"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "moment"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "in 5 years of darkness where you went"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. That's when it all changed."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:37", "text": ">> Yeah. And then when we come back, we can"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "get into"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:44", "text": ">> Okay. Good. So 5 years of fighting,"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "social services fighting, the"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "communities ridiculed so bad. It was so"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "bad I wouldn't go to the grocery store"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "anymore. I'd hold my head down. And here"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "I'm working with NASA, right? I've got"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "NASA scientists at my house and I'm down"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "at Cape Canaveral and all these places."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "Well, I ain't got to Cape Canaveral yet,"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "but I'm with NASA."}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "It was a NASA scientist Al Papa went to"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "my mom and dad's house and said, \"You"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "need to listen to your son. He's not"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "lying.\""}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Don't worry, gang. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "get into all that in a moment. So,"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "uh, at the end of 5 years, it was Easter"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "of 2012."}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "I was so beat down that Richard Drifus"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "in me had gone into hiding now and"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "shame. The zeal that I had hadn't gone"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "away, but the wall I was hitting is now"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "affecting my kids because my kids are"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "coming home crying."}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:43", "text": ">> Sure. They're being made fun of in"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "school, picked on in the hallways and"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "called out in class by teachers and"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "children."}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "So I got I went to bed that night at"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "9:30. It was a Saturday night of 2012"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "before Easter. So that morning, Sunday"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "morning's Easter, right?"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "I walked out about 9:00 and I looked up"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "at the heavens and it it killed me to"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "say it because I was so deeply"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "moved by what happened and and the the"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "Richard Drifus to experience it and to"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "talk to it and to find more. This all I"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "wanted and I had to concede. I let the"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "community beat me down and then the"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "church and the family and I say extended"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "family. Our family's big in our town and"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "we've been there since the 1700s. So"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "there's two or 300 cousins that live"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "around or relatives in that town."}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "So I went out and I shouted at the"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "heavens, \"Why did you do this to me? Now"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "I've ruined my children's lives. I was"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "sick. Thank you for healing me. I lost"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "everything. Now I have nothing. It's"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "worse. I I can't even get a job now."}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "Nobody will hire me.\" And I put in for"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "several jobs. I needed work. I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "get any work. Not even family members"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "would hire me. People that work for me."}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "It got that bad. So I shouted at God and"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "I said, \"I quit. I'll never talk about"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "this again to save my children and"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "what's left there.\" And I went to bed at"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "9:30 at um 3:00 in the morning. And I"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "know it was three because when I heard"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "this voice, I heard it. It was so loud"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "it woke me up out of a dead sleep. My"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "clock, my alarm clock on the counter."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "Back then we had the digital ones. Now"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "you don't have those anymore. It said"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "3:00 a.m."}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "So I heard it and I stood up and it was"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "set up in the bed and I could see"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "movement just flare just just not very"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "clear, but I could see movement at the"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "bed in my room."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": ">> Let's stop there. Let's take a break"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "here. It's a good spot for a break."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": ">> Good."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:58", "text": ">> Uh we'll be right back. It's Easter 2012"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "and your shout, \"I'm done. I don't want"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "any more to do with this. You ruined my"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "life. You wake up at 3:00 a.m.\" And this"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "voice,"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:08", "text": ">> okay, that said, \"Arise.\" And it sounded"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "like the deepest manly voice I'd ever"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "heard."}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "So I wake up, I see this movement at the"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "end of my bed, and I'm like, \"Who said"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "that? I know you're in there.\" Those the"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "very words I said and I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "happened um how they are able to control"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "our movements and what we do. Maybe they"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "can turn time off. I don't know. But I"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "got up fully dressed and I was in my"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "underclo right now. I'm in full blue"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "jeans, socks, coat, and I'm heading"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "outside."}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "So I walk behind these shadowy figures"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "following them."}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": ">> You're not afraid?"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": ">> No, I haven't been afraid since."}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:53", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": ">> Ever since what happened to me, I lost"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "all fear."}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. Uh I invite it, you know,"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "and it say it's not here to hurt. And I"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "I knew that. I still know that. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "following it and it leads me out to the"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "dog kennel right where Chris Junior and"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "I put Nelly in the forest and said, \"Go"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "get them.\" They were standing in the"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "same spot"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "one of these shadowy figures hands me"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "something. It stops and it reaches out"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "and it hands me this object and I he"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "said, \"This is yours. You must keep.\""}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "That's what he said. So I reached out"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "and I took it."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "And when I did, it felt like holding a"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "hedgehog. You know how they had little"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "spikes on them? It felt prickly. So I"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "dropped it on the ground."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:42", "text": ">> No head or tail?"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": ">> No head, no tail. It just felt like a"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "bag of bones. Like a animal with no"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "legs. No head, no tail."}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:48", "text": ">> You're describing a tribble from Star"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "Trek,"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": ">> maybe. Okay. So you you dropped it."}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:55", "text": ">> I dropped it and it said, \"No, you must"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "keep this.\" So I reached down. Pick it"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "up. It said, \"You must keep this.\" So, I"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "reached down to pick it up and I'm"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "juggling the thing. I'm scared of it. I"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "don't know what I got. It's dark, right?"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "And I look up and they're gone. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "standing at the dog kennel. So, I reach"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "over. I thought I'm going to not let it"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "get away. I'm not going to lose it. I"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "open the dog kennel, set it in, close"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "the door. Are the dogs in there?"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:20", "text": ">> Uh, no. They're gone. So, whatever this"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "is is not is safe from the"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:22", "text": ">> All the dogs are gone."}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:29", "text": ">> This is 5 years later. And um"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "the minute I closed that door, I felt"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "this blast of air. This wind just hit me"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "like physical wind. And it wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "trees. It wasn't the wind like you. It"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "was concentrated. It was in front of me."}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "It was almost like somebody blasted me"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "with a air blower."}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "Caught me off balance and pushed me over"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "backwards. So, I fell to my back in the"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "leaves"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "right where all this happened with with"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "the dog and you know in 2007."}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "Um, and"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "as I'm falling backwards, I see what was"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "coming at me out of this black"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "blackness. It's like I'm looking at an"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "oak tree, but now I can't see it. I see"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "the tops of it. But this hole opens up"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "and out comes this bull like a huge cow"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "runs right over me and I could see"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "through it. It was translucent. I could"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "see the stars up in it. And it it was"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "just so quick and so powerful. It scared"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "me because of the force from the wind"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "and this thing. I grew up on a farm,"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "right? Working. My neighbor had a dairy"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "farm, had cows, we had pigs."}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "the minute it went over, I land on my"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "back and I roll to my stomach. So now"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "I'm facing behind me and I'm getting up"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "to run all in the same time. And when I"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "do, there's no longer a cow there"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "standing, not standing about 6 to 8 ft"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "from me is floating."}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "This most beautiful woman from from"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "heaven. It's all I could say. She you"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "would think it's an angel or whatever it"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "is. And she looks at me and she leans"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "towards me and she looks at me and she"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "says, \"You know why I'm here and I knew"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "what?\" Because it was hard for me to to"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "fuss at God and and whatever it was. I"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "still"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "still try not to label this, right?"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "Because we really don't know. And uh"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "it's it's up to everybody to experience"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "it, figure it out on their own. Um but"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "she said, \"You know why I'm here? You're"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "not going to quit.\""}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "She said, \"This is your burden. You have"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "to bear.\" And she said, \"If you'll"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "continue to do this, I promise you I'll"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "be with you and I will help you. And on"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "top of that, I'll allow you to fill our"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "presence and let you share us with"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "others.\" Before I couldn't film it."}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "That's one of the things that made me so"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "angry. I'd go out and there's a orb"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "hovering 100 ft over the house. Golden"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "orb. Pull my camera out and it says"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "memory card error. The camera don't work"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "anymore. Or every time it would appear"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "when I get the camera out, it disappear."}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "It wouldn't let me film it."}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "So, I'll never forget right after that I"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "started amassing a database and never"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "had any information. But now I've got a"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "lot. And uh"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:39", "text": ">> Chris, you mentioned that you were shown"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "Hatherther's temple. I don't know if you"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "know this, but she's um she's the"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "goddess of maternity and motherhood."}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:51", "text": ">> And according to ancient Egypt, she is"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "the sky. She came before everything."}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": ">> Sophia."}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:57", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "Which I think is in Greek is wisdom."}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, and Hatherther is depicted as"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "a cow in in ancient Egypt. And whenever"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "she's depicted as a human, she always"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "has horns."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:12", "text": ">> Well, she told me that um cuz I you"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "know, I asked who she was and she said"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "she had planned"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "that she was from she was called Hathor"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "in Egypt. And that resonated with me"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "because first thing it showed me was"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "Egypt. Right."}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "And um I saw the faces of Hatthorp"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "carved in the temples and it's like cow"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "ears and stuff."}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:34", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:37", "text": ">> And so immediately uh that resonated."}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "But she said she had many names in many"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "countries, many cultures from Diana to"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "Deer to Hara to the white buffalo calf"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "lady in the American Southwest."}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:52", "text": ">> American Southwest, Hinduism, Buddhism,"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Lakshmi. Could"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "it be"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "Mary? Could it be?"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:02", "text": ">> Well, I suppose it could be, but in my"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "research, I know that the word spirit,"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "the definition of a spirit, nobody"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "really understands that, but it's the"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "wind, right? And the word Holy Spirit is"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "the breath of God. Well, that most"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "impactful thing to me was not only"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "seeing and hearing, but the wind that"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "pushed me over the cow and over I saw"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "it, but the wind physically,"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "it it frightened me. It hit me so hard."}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "You know what I mean? So, here's this"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "force that came at me only to reveal"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "itself as the most beautiful woman I had"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "ever seen. So, I went from extreme fear"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "to, \"Oh my god, what am I looking at?\""}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:47", "text": ">> and she's allowed me to share her"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "presence or or the orbs with everyone."}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": ">> Yes, she has. Um,"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "every"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "all those men that were on that trip"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "with you, that fishing trip have all"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "come forward and corroborated. Your son"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "has said has happened."}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> I think orb sightings in your presence"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "are now numbering in the thousands."}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "Hundreds of people have seen them."}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:08", "text": ">> Thousands."}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:10", "text": ">> Thousands of people. Yeah, I've had a"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "thousand at one time."}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "now, um"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "I I don't know what to call her, the the"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "divine the divine feminine or whatever."}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": ">> You're now you're back on your mission."}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:29", "text": ">> So take us back through"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "Crohn's disease, which is a very"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "difficult disease with no cure."}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:33", "text": ">> Horrible."}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:35", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "you were cured of that."}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:39", "text": ">> It's gone. I went to Chapel Hill. A"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "doctor sent me to Chapel Hill to find"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "out if uh where it had gone to, if the"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "markers were still there, and there are"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "no markers. And"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:52", "text": ">> when did that when did were you cured?"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:54", "text": ">> I was cured in 2007. 2009."}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "Um I I came down with rheumatoid"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "arthritis."}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "And it really didn't get bad. But I know"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "to me that that rheumatoid came on from"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "the stress during those 5 years. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "in remission now. Uh it did a lot of"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "damage. But um even the rheumatoid"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "doctor said, \"Well, maybe it even Gary"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "Nolan, Gary Nolan told me that it"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "probably was a reprieve from the Crohn's"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "and it came back as RA.\""}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": ">> Could be. I went to Chapel Hill."}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:28", "text": ">> Chapel Hill. I have the paper. I'll"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "share with you. It says there's"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "absolutely no"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:34", "text": ">> I believe you"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:37", "text": ">> no marker there. It did not move from"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "one to the other. So"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "yeah, it was"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:45", "text": ">> and this healing ability"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "unbelievably um you have shared with"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "others."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:50", "text": ">> Can you talk a little bit about that?"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "Because when I say share with others, I"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "don't mean a boy in your neighborhood. I"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "mean you've been summoned to the White"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "House and"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, um um"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:04", "text": ">> that was part of what she gave me when"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "she came in 2012."}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:08", "text": ">> Did it start with Nelly? Did it start?"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:10", "text": ">> It started with my dog, Nelly. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "that's and believe it or not, she came"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "back in 2013. It didn't happen the first"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "year in 2012. 2013, she came back and"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "she told me on 2013 about the the thing"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "with Iran and Israel. So it was 2013 is"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "when I first got that information and"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "that's the year that that I was uh asked"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "to put it in writing through the"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "Pentagon."}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:39", "text": ">> What did she see between Iran in Israel?"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:42", "text": ">> She she Yeah. She said when you see"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "Israel and Iran begin to exchange"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "missiles and I saw them in vision. You"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "know they give you telepathic. You see"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "it's like looking at a television"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "really. That's what it kind of looks"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "like. She said, 'When you see these"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "happen, that's when we're going to come"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "in and we're going to start waking up"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "the population. We're going to reveal"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "ourselves, which will change the"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "consciousness of people. So, all this"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "new knowledge is about disclosure. It's"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "about consciousness and"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "and they're going to make it happen"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "because it it it tames people. It opens"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "us up. It turns us into psychic beings."}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "It gives us power. A lot of things this"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "does."}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:22", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "Let we'll get back to that in a little"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "bit. Can you tell can you just start"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "with Nelly? It's such a touching story."}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "Then what happens from"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:32", "text": ">> So this is how this went down. 2013 she"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:34", "text": ">> And there are pictures of all of this."}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:38", "text": ">> Yeah, there's witnesses, a lot of"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "witnesses. So 2013 Easter she comes. Two"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "weeks later, two weeks after Easter,"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "um this journalist UFO is is a UFO"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "researcher out of Canada. good friend of"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "mine, a guy I really have a lot of"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "liking for is Grant Cameron. Grant is on"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "the way from from Congress. They were"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "doing this mock Congress thing in"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "Washington. And he calls me. He says,"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "\"I'm going to Florida to do an event"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "down there and would love to stop on the"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "way and visit you.\" I said, \"Why don't"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "you come stay tonight?\" He says, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "Comes, he stays two days. He goes to"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "Florida. He calls me on the way back and"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "he's like, \"Man, can I just stop back"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "by? I'd like to at least take pictures"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "of the burning tree. I didn't get to do"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "that while I was there.\" And so he"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:28", "text": ">> the burning tree."}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:31", "text": ">> Yeah. That's something else that"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "happened right after the lady come. I'll"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "show you this. I have the video of it."}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:37", "text": ">> There's so many biblical connections to"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "the story."}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": ">> Yeah. True. It's a true story. We have"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "it on video."}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "Uh and I'll get back to Grant and Nelly."}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "Right. So in October of 2013, October"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "that year,"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "um, October of 2012,"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "13, 2012, cuz Grant come on 2013, right?"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "October 2012,"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "right after the lady come, she came in"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "April. Here it is, October."}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "It had been raining for 2 days."}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "My wife and I and children were living"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "next to my dad on a 6acre property,"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "right? 600 ft deep property and probably"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "500 ft wide or something like that."}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "And um I was a smoker then that's when I"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "quit smoking and I quit smoking October"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "2012 after the lady came and seeing this"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "I wasn't going to smoke anymore right I"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "good idea."}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:40", "text": ">> So it we were watching TV my wife and I"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "I said I got to smoke. So I paused the"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "movie we were watching on the cable"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "vision box cable. I paused it. I walked"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "out the back door, lit up a cigarette."}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "I'm on the back patio. It's a concrete"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "patio. The wife says, \"I'll be out in a"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "minute.\" And so she's walking by the"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "back door as a full glass door. And she"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "looks out at me through the glass and"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "sees way back in the back of the"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "property, this tree, what looked like"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "somebody lit a couple of bottle rockets"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "off from the ground and they shot up and"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "they did this, right? She sees that and"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "says, \"What?\" She opened the door. She"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "said, \"What's going on with that tree?\""}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "I said, \"I have no idea, but I saw that,"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "too.\" And then all of a sudden sparks"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "would poof out 3 f feet and they would"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "they would just kind of do like"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "fireworks. It looked like then suddenly"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "poof this thing erupted into flames and"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "it's burning 12 ft in the air from the"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "inside of the tree is burning and it's"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "shooting up through the tops. She freaks"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "out. Oh my god, how did this happen? And"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "then we run out and anyhow Ryan, my son,"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "he takes his iPad he's got in his hand"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "and he starts filming this this tree"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "just spontaneously combusted in our"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "backyard. So I run a hose pipe all the"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "way out there, give it to my wife and"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "she puts it up in the tree inside of it"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "and sprays it all and puts it out."}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "Messed her up so bad she couldn't sleep,"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "couldn't think. That was at 9:30. At"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "12:00,"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "uh, she walks by the back door and looks"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "and it's burning again."}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:18", "text": ">> It's It's burning again."}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:23", "text": ">> Burning again. So, we go out and we put"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "it out the second time. At 3:00 a.m.,"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "she can't sleep. She goes by the door."}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "There it is burning again. So, she puts"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "it out the third time. 9"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "12 and 3. And, uh,"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "so Grant is there wanting to see this"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "tree. I have a video. share that burning"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "tree video. It's under my name, Chris"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:45", "text": "Bleds, Burning Tree. You can look that"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "up on YouTube. It's been there since way"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "back then."}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "And um that tree became very famous."}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:55", "text": ">> I bet it did."}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:57", "text": ">> A lot of people would bring articles of"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "clothing and all and put in the tree and"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "healings would happen and stuff."}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "April 2013,"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "Grant Cameron comes 2 weeks after Easter"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "and we walk out to the tree. We look at"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "the tree and uh stand around it 20"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "minutes conversating. He's got his"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "camera all in it and around it, right?"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "And my black labador Nelly is laying"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "beside us. She just would walk where"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "we'd lay down, right? So, she'd been"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "with us the whole time."}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "Grant's like, \"Okay, um, I'm done.\" So,"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "we start back to 75 yards from back"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "there to the back door of the house. All"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "my kids are standing on the patio. They"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "have friends there. Grant's got his"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "camera in his hand. He's been filming"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "the tree, right? And Nelly"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "and and Grant and I walk right up to the"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "patio, stop short of the patio. I'm"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "standing on the dirt. He's standing on"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "the patio between me and the house. He's"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "looking at me. I'm looking at the house."}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "Nellie's laying here beside us, right? I"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "said, \"Grant, um, if you want, I'll get"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "the kids to get your bags out of the car"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "and you can just stay tonight with us.\""}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:12", "text": "He's like, \"Oh, that'd be fabulous.\""}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "So, immediately he turns his back to me"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "and starts toward the door. So, the back"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "door is open. We We live in the country."}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "I heated with with wood. It didn't even"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "have heat. And so, I'd leave the doors"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "open that time of year and windows and"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "all."}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "And so Nelly takes off to beat us in the"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "door. You know how a dog would do that?"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "They try to cut you and get in front of"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "you. But she did it. And when she did, I"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "saw her go by and blood shoot out of her"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "neck. Right out side of her neck. Long"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "stream of blood. Wet down Grant's pants."}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "There's a string of blood going right on"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "in the back of the house. And I ran in"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "the door. Oh my god. I tackled her on"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "the floor. This LV plank flooring, you"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "know, it's real slippery. Yep."}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "Especially with blood. was a slippery"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "thing. I tackle her and I drag her back"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "out the house. She's about 80 lb heavy"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "and me with rheumatoid arthritis, you"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "know, was it was adrenaline that kicked"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "in. So I drag her out and I lay her on"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "the patio and we're all looking and"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "Grant's down there with the camera and"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "she's got a hole in her neck this long"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "right across her vein. We don't know how"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "it got there. my friend at NASA, the"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "dragon,"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:29", "text": ">> he suggested maybe I should look into"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "healing because maybe the phenomenon is"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "trying to tell me something. So, I"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "didn't think about it, but"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "that's what happened. But, um,"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "here here's how it went. She's laying"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "there bleeding to death. I got my hand"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "on her neck and blood's coming up"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "through my fingers. Every time her heart"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "would beat, blood would shoot out. It's"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "all over the floor, patio in Grants"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "Pence."}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "So, I knew at that moment she wasn't"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "going to live because we're 30 minutes"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "from a vet out in the country, 25."}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "She's going to bleed bleed to death"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "before I can even get her in the car. Is"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "that much blood? And uh so I just kind"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "of I I can remember blocking everyone"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "out. I didn't realize who was standing"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "there at that moment. I just looked up"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "at the heavens. And I said, \"Lord, you"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "got to help her. She's going to die.\""}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "And the minute I said it, I felt her"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "struggle just she went limp. And the"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "picture I'll share with you has her"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "laying there completely limp. Didn't"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "even wiggle. It went on for a while to"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "where I had Chris Junior go get a rag. I"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "thought maybe we could put pressure on"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "it and help it stop the hole. So he went"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "in and got a washcloth. Right. So"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "everybody sees what's happening."}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "But the minute I said the prayer and she"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "went limp, I lifted the ros cloth off"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "her neck and the hole was disappeared."}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "It was gone."}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "She just stood up and waggled her tail"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "and walked away"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:14:59", "text": ">> like nothing happened."}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": ">> Like nothing happened. Grant saw it. He"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "documented it. He wrote a paper on it,"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "an article or two."}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "And so I told that to my NASA friends."}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "and I told it to someone"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "uh after the lady came, a whole lot of"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "people started showing up."}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:19", "text": ">> Well, when did when did the government"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "first?"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:23", "text": ">> 2008."}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:24", "text": ">> How did how did they find you? How did"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "they"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:29", "text": ">> um did you report what happened?"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:31", "text": ">> I reported it. Well, let's just say in"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "2007"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "is when it happened, right? In January,"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "under"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "my wife's wishes not to ever talk about"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "it anymore because it was interrupting"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "the children and the schedule, I decided"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "I wouldn't talk about it and try to"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "hold, but I'm Richard Drifus, right? I"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "got to talk about it."}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:55", "text": ">> You have to."}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:57", "text": ">> And um so I went in agony. I I went in"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "depression and slept in my little office"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "for October 10 months. I wouldn't even"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "talk to my wife. I was so upset, felt"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "restricted and and but I understood her"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "position with the kids. Right."}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:12", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:14", "text": ">> But I had uh so much anxiety and and I"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "had just had to talk to somebody. So I"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "went on the computer and found this"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "outfit called Muon and said, \"Report"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "your sighting.\" So I wrote it up and uh"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "I didn't hit sin because I knew if I did"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "I might lose my family."}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:33", "text": ">> So for two weeks there I looked at it in"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "agony. I finally"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "hit the button and the very next day I"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "get a call out of California from a guy"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "named Jim Deanchi I think his name was."}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "And uh he's like man this is we want to"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "come visit and we want to investigate."}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "I'm like hold on. I just wanted to tell"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "somebody I don't want y'all here. this"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "is going to cause me a problem. So I"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "said, \"No, thank you.\" So January comes"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "along. This was October. I They call me"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "every week. And I kept telling them"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "fine's gone."}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Every week. And January comes. Um"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "they called me and said, \"We're going to"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "officially close the case if you don't"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "want to talk about it.\" They'd already"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "open the case file."}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:17", "text": ">> I said, \"Well, okay, I'll talk about"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "it.\" So within a week, but within by"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "February of that year of 20 2008,"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "I allowed them to come in February. So"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "it happened in January of 2007. So I'm"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "February of08, right? A year and a month"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "later."}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:36", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "we um shoot, I forgot where I was going"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "with that."}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:43", "text": ">> When how the government first"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:45", "text": ">> Oh yeah. So, um, when I reported it, Jim"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "Simean told me that he knew the very"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "minute that I reported it."}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:50", "text": ">> Cuz then some would say move on and the"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "government have a little bit of it's all"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "the same."}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:54", "text": ">> It's all the same."}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:57", "text": ">> It's a data gathering apparatus. That's"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "all they do is they gather data and they"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "use um volunteer people to do it. So,"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "they you get a sighting, they ask you,"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "\"Hey AJ, since you had that sighting,"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "you want to become an investigator for"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "Muon?\" Yeah. And it's exciting, right?"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "And they can tell if you're you're like"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "Richard Drifus. Fall for it every time."}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "And"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:20", "text": ">> and uh they tried to give me a training"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "manual and and but I never because what"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "happened next was terrible."}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "This is 2008 February."}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "By March they had six or seven"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "investigators at my house all the time"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "and they were convincing me to do a a"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "documentary on Discovery. we're going to"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "vindicate you. This was a month, two"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "months after I met them, they already"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "had it in place."}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "By June, they had the whole thing shot."}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "And I was determined to to prove myself"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "that, you know, I saw this. It really"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "happened. And the community said, \"No,"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "it didn't. You know, you're dealing with"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "the devil.\""}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "Long story short, um, it backfired."}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:08", "text": ">> Yes, it did. Mufon did a hit job on you."}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And um what everyone points"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "to is that you didn't pass the lie"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "detector test,"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:18", "text": ">> which on my channel I tell everybody"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "there those things do not work."}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": ">> Right. Right."}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:24", "text": ">> But what's not emphasized is you pass a"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "psychiatric exam perfectly."}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:30", "text": ">> A perfectly sane man."}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:33", "text": ">> Yep. And and the lie detector was a it"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "was a farce. They gave me 34 questions."}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "you're only supposed to have three or"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "four questions, you know,"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:38", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:40", "text": ">> But they asked me 34 over and over for"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "two hours."}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "it was an abusive thing. The whole thing"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "was abuse. They they came in and filmed"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "this show"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "and I write about this in the book where"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "they my little children were so excited."}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "Hollywood's coming, right? My daughter's"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "10, 11 years old. Here they come and"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "they they got these assistants going"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "around a lot like your staff. They're"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "working for support the thing and they"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "come and they take my kids' orders for"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "dinner they're going to send out for"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "dinner and we were all, you know,"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "they're all in my house. They took my"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "whole house over. There's 17 people in"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "their crew. My whole house is"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "rearranged. Couches moved, furniture,"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "cameras. They go out and get dinner,"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "took our order, and when they got back,"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "the kids was went to the table and they"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "didn't have any food for us."}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "And the the producer said, \"Well, you"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "guys weren't in the budget.\""}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:38", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:40", "text": ">> Yeah. So, they sat there in my house,"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "ordered food, and ate without feeding"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "us. And I knew then I was in a mess."}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> Yeah. And then went and aired a hit job"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "on you."}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So, that's the kind of thing that"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:52", "text": ">> And is that where the government"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:54", "text": ">> Well, the government Yeah. Jim said he"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "knew immediately it was a hit job. Yep."}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:59", "text": ">> Felt sorry for me. And he said, \"I"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "couldn't ever talk to you until I"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "retired from CIA.\" But once I overtly"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "retired, then he he's the first one I"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "met."}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:09", "text": ">> This is Jim Sime."}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:09", "text": ">> Jim Sime. Yeah. Wrote the Ford on your"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "book."}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:12", "text": ">> Yeah. So this is a senior CIA official."}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:16", "text": ">> When did you first meet him?"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:17", "text": ">> I met him in 2013 right after"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:20", "text": ">> right after the"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> right after the healing. But the first"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "government person I met was Dr. Hal"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "Pavmeire from NASA. How he is a he is a"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "debunker."}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:29", "text": ">> Well, he was"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:32", "text": ">> he was"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:34", "text": ">> Yeah. So, they sent him to debunk my"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "case. He's a senior official at NASA"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "for, you know, or a contractor with"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "them. Engineer still holds a security"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "clearance when he died 59 60 years he"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "was there."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:46", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:50", "text": ">> He was serious people, right? He shows"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "up one day at uh in the fall or summer"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "in 200 right after the thing aired in"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "June or July within a month he knocks on"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "my door. My son Ryan calls me. I'm in"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "town working or something and he's"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "called his dad. Um there's this very"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "tall guy from NASA here at the house"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "wants to meet you. I said NASA? He said"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "yeah. He drove all the way from Cape"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "Canaveral by chance to find you. I said"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "well tell him to hang around. and I'll"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "be there in an hour. So, he did. And um"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "I was terrified because I had been told"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:26", "text": "by Muon's people in the UFO world, they"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "they'll kill you to go men in black."}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:29", "text": ">> Yeah. They're going to kill you. Right."}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "And so we were the whole family is"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "terrified by this giant of a man, right?"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "Turned out"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:38", "text": ">> from the government's never good news."}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Right. Turned out he was um he was"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "a like a family member. He stayed with"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "our family until he died in 2019."}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "Thanksgiving. He was coming. He and"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "Katie, his wife, were coming to to visit"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "us for Thanksgiving. He was 80 and he"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "fell and uh and and"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "hit his head and he never come to after"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:03", "text": ">> Was he the one who got you involved in"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "the intelligence community? Uh yeah, in"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "a way that and Jim, but um he he was"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "there in 2008 and he would come every"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "year for two, three, four, five times a"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "year and stay. He come to my kids'"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "birthdays. He come to my daughter's"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "recital."}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "And uh he told me, he said, \"Chris,\" he"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "told everybody, you know, uh that's what"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "I did. I debunked everything. I was the"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "one that that did that. He said, \"But I"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "have to tell you, I could not never"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "debunk you.\" He said, \"I found eight"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "witnesses in Grace Creek where this"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "thing happened on the river.\" Mulan"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "didn't go out and look. He went and put"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "in the effort. He went to the airport."}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "He went to He checked behind me. He"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:51", "text": "checked my building records. He checked"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "everything. And he could never debunk"}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:55", "text": "me. And we went right before he died. He"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "said, \"Chris,\""}, {"start": "01:23:55", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "he said, \"I know about everything there"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "is to know about this."}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "I've been there a long time and I've"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "always wondered is it spiritual or is it"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "alien? He said, \"We all suspect"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "um one or the other, but not sure.\" He"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "said, \"But now I know. I know now is is"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "is about God.\" And that's what the very"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:27", "text": "guy NASA told me that. Well, at this"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:30", "text": "point, meaning present day, you've had"}, {"start": "01:24:27", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "CIA, DoD, EIA, all of them."}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:35", "text": ">> And I mean I mean senior leaders, not"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:37", "text": ">> some low"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:39", "text": ">> Congress people. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:41", "text": ">> What is their interest in this"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "phenomena?"}, {"start": "01:24:41", "end": "01:24:46", "text": ">> Um this is this is this is much of an"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "interest is more of an interest to the"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "government than us. I mean, we want to"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "know it. They they're people like us."}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:55", "text": ">> Right. Then and they want they want to"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "know what it is, but also they want to"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "know the technology and how to defend."}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:03", "text": ">> So whatever. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:05", "text": ">> So there's um there's the human"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "curiosity about the spiritual aspect,"}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "but there's also fear that there's"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "technology that we can't defend against."}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Because they don't know, you know,"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "most people automatically they're"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "conditioned to believe alien. This"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "thing's alien. It's coming from the"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "Plleades or this or that."}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "And you don't believe that?"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:26", "text": ">> I think it lives right beside us all the"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "time. It's around us. It knows your"}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "thoughts. I know this. I can demonstrate"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "it at any time with groups of people."}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:33", "text": ">> I believe you."}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:37", "text": ">> Now, what if there this is maybe out"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "there, but what if there's life on other"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "planets? Does this energy exist all for"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "infinitely?"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:49", "text": ">> Yeah, I think it's I think something I I"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "was concerned about the triangle. I"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "asked people at government, the dragon"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "and others, \"What does that triangle"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "mean? What does it mean?\""}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:25:58", "text": ">> The dragon, by the way, is Tim Taylor,"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "who's a very elusive figure."}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:04", "text": ">> And see, he seems like he could swipe"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "his card and get anywhere."}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:09", "text": ">> He can."}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "And in the White House"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "or any king or queen, it doesn't matter."}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "the Vatican. He walked right in the"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "bottom the ba basement of the Vatican."}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:19", "text": ">> The archives."}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "He can"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:22", "text": ">> I know somebody else can too."}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:24", "text": ">> Well, who's that?"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:26", "text": ">> There's a friend out of Washington."}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:27", "text": ">> You don't want to name him?"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:29", "text": ">> No. You probably wouldn't want me to"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "name."}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:32", "text": ">> So, the Vatican is interested in this as"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "well."}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:34", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": ">> Have they been in touch with you?"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:40", "text": ">> They have through several people. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:42", "text": ">> What What is the Vatican"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:45", "text": ">> to them? It's it's to them what I'm"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "seeing is the Virgin Mary."}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:49", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "Right. And they're go to Fatima. What do"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "they see? Orbs."}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": ">> They saw orbs."}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:56", "text": ">> Mostly orbs. They see sometimes they get"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "the full apparition, but a lot of times"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "at these holy sites they see the orbs."}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:03", "text": ">> And I I think the Catholic Church now"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "has acknowledged UFOs."}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "And I could be wrong, but haven't they"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "revealed at this point the three secrets"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "of Fatima, which which were hell, war,"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "the end of religion was the the white"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "bishop, I believe it was, being murdered"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "on a mountain. So, were you ever shown?"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "I mean, we talked earlier about there"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "are so many stories about two timelines"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "and we're in an inflection point where"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "we can choose as a species. We can go"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "down a dark path of evil,"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:35", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:37", "text": ">> Or we can go down the light path of"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "enlightenment."}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> And we're at the point where"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:42", "text": ">> which where are we headed?"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:43", "text": ">> Well, I think we're heading to the"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "light."}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:47", "text": ">> I hope you're right. But were you ever"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "shown?"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "What? Were you ever shown the other"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:51", "text": "side?"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:56", "text": ">> Could you tell us?"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I saw"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "the first four hours when I was gone."}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "remember the four hours and I started to"}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "hit on this earlier."}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:05", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:07", "text": ">> They showed me Hatheror's temple."}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:09", "text": ">> They showed me the pyramids. They showed"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "me Egypt as a whole. The Spinx was the"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "biggest thing. Three pyramids. I'm"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "looking over the pyramids at the rear"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "end of the Spinx. That's the position we"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "were in. Then they transport me up over"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "the United States somewhere up over the"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "Midwest."}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "And we were way up high and we were"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "looking um and they're talking, they're"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "narrating these things and all of a"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "sudden I see the sun"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "swell up in the sky. It got real big to"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "where the whole sky become the sun and"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:44", "text": "then it flashed"}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "and the lights went out and I knew then"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "that was the reset mechanism"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "that uh and they told me this is what"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "we're in for. This is a Is this a solar"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "flare or is this something worse?"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:58", "text": ">> Supernova."}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:28:58", "text": ">> Oh no, that's the end of everything"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "then."}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:02", "text": ">> so that's not the the lights going out."}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "That's everything out,"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": ">> right? Uh and that's how the tectites"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "got here. Scientists would try to say,"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "\"Oh, that can't be a supernova.\" Well,"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "yeah, it can. It's happened before and"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "we know it has because I've studied with"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "Dr. Pavmeer was the world's expert on"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "tectites. Yeah, he was. And how did they"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "get made? It come through a supernova."}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "It didn't come from a solar flare. It"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "come from a supernova. He told me that"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:31", "text": "he and we know that"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:34", "text": ">> and that it can happen again. So the way"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "they explained it was we had two"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "timelines. We had a choice. They said"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "that there were people in power"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "scripting the book of revelations to"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:47", "text": "bring about the end of the world. They"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "want to do this. these religious nuts, I"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "guess you would call it, people that are"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "um I don't know why they'd want to do"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:56", "text": ">> I think it's a shadow government and"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "that that's why they're building bunkers"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "and all of that is cuz they're trying to"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "engineer the end of the world."}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And that's what she told me."}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "That's what the beings told me. Um that"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "they were trying to bring about the end"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "of the world. And if we'd go that route,"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "it would end up in Armageddon. And the"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "like the Bible says Jesus comes back and"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "saves the world, right? That's what I"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "was talking about with Sean Ryan was"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:24", "text": "that timeline. But the other timeline"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "they said was that the reset button"}, {"start": "01:30:24", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "didn't have to happen if we made the"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "choice to seek the light and remove the"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "darkness from our and that they were"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "going to help."}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "And that's by waking us up. And does"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "that lead us into the 2026 event?"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:46", "text": ">> 2026 into a time of awakening"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> and peace, not war."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:49", "text": ">> And you have been called, I know you"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "don't like the word prophet,"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:53", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:55", "text": ">> So let's just call it a prediction."}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:56", "text": ">> What was the prediction that the lady"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "made?"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:03", "text": ">> Well, what she told me was she it was a"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "riddle in a way. She said um she said"}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "when the red star of Regulus now keep in"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "mind I don't know anything about"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "astronomy. I don't know what Regulus is."}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "She just put these number words out. She"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "said when the red star of Regulus aligns"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "in the gaze of the Spinx and she showed"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "it to me. It looked like a little red"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "ball. Now Regulus is blue."}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> It's blue but she said it would appear"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "red on the horizon just before dawn."}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "When that happens at that point would"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "mark a shift into a new knowledge and"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "awakening of the people don't mean that"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:39", "text": "you're going to flip a switch and we all"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "a sudden know that day. I think it's"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "just a beginning of a a new era a new a"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "new knowledge and maybe that's the the"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "the revealing of this the the truth of"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "consciousness"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:54", "text": ">> and this will be the sphinx gazing at"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "Regulus. Do you know what constellation"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "Regulus is in?"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:31:57", "text": ">> It's in Leo. It's in Leo."}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:31:58", "text": ">> Ain't that crazy?"}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:00", "text": ">> It is."}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:04", "text": ">> Why does the Why does the Space Force"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "have on their badge a triangle,"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:07", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:09", "text": ">> with the Sphinx looking up at the star?"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:11", "text": ">> That's funny that you mentioned that. If"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "you look at a lot of the logos,"}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:15", "text": ">> whether it's NRO, all these, there's all"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "this Egyptian iconography on them."}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:20", "text": ">> It's It makes me think they know"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "something we don't know."}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:21", "text": ">> Oh, they do."}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:23", "text": ">> They do."}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:28", "text": ">> They do. I can tell you they do. What do"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "they know and why won't they tell us?"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:30", "text": ">> I wish I could tell you something I do"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "know."}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:35", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:37", "text": ">> but let's just say uh without me getting"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "in really serious trouble."}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:41", "text": ">> Are you under any NDA and you're not? So"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "you can speak freely."}, {"start": "01:32:41", "end": "01:32:48", "text": ">> I can, but I might cut my toes off or"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "cut myself off from a stream of"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "information."}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:52", "text": ">> As the legal counsel, I would advise you"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "to be careful here. Yeah, that's what"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "I'm doing. Um, but I do know that"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "they've documented things over the last"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "several hundred years,"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:03", "text": ">> several hundred years,"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:07", "text": ">> ever since they started keeping records"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "in the US and and abroad over hundreds"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "of years, thousands, 2,000 or more. The"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "specific thing I'm speaking about,"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:16", "text": ">> well, we can see orbs in paintings that"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "are hundreds of years old."}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it's like the the Gelder"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "painting of Jesus being baptized by John"}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "the Baptist. Yes. There's a cloud up"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "there and it looks like a flying saucer"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "with laser beams."}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:31", "text": ">> Yes, it does."}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:33", "text": ">> How did they know to draw laser beams in"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "the 1300s?"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:36", "text": ">> Right. Exactly."}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:38", "text": ">> They don't have a flashlight. Right."}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:40", "text": ">> So, yeah, there's a whole lot of"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "knowledge we don't this hidden"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "knowledge. Do you think um"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:49", "text": "disclosure is happening now?"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:51", "text": ">> It's we're in post disclosure."}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:54", "text": ">> You think it's it's already happened."}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:54", "text": ">> It's happened. It's happening one person"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "at a time."}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:57", "text": ">> Cuz I'm very suspicious of what we're"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "being told,"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:33:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:01", "text": ">> Cuz I don't know. I don't know what's"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:05", "text": "true and what's not true. So I don't"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "know if this is planned disclosure."}, {"start": "01:34:05", "end": "01:34:09", "text": ">> And if it is, I don't like that. I don't"}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:11", "text": ">> Well, they're planning it. They're"}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "definitely planning it and they've"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "turned up the notch 100%, right? Partly"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "because"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "when the drone thing happened"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "and there was there weren't drones."}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "There were not drones at all. And we"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "know that they weren't drones. They know"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "that they weren't drones. They were"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "orbs, right? It's the very thing I"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "predicted."}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:36", "text": ">> I didn't predict it. I just told what I"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "was told"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "that when the Iran and Israel go to"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "exchanging missiles,"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "then the orbs would start appearing out"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "of the sea, out of the land, out of the"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "sky. And"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "they were firing at one another in"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:56", "text": "November. And what happened? November,"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "December, orbs appeared everywhere. So"}, {"start": "01:34:56", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "the government freaked out and they"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "started sending their own drones up, big"}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "ones. and leave them for days hanging"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "around. All that was done to confuse the"}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "people."}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:08", "text": ">> So, you're a pilot."}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:15", "text": ">> Um I've been shown from another pilot a"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "a NOTAM report that showed in advance"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "all these areas where the where drones"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "would be. But the government never told"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "us that. They never said, \"Relax, we got"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "it. It's us.\" They kept us confused and"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "frightened, right? And"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:29", "text": ">> what would be the purpose of that? Why"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "frighten the population?"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:36", "text": ">> I tell you why. because"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "I was sitting in a restaurant"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "with some people from the Pentagon"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "and some Congress and others in the"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "Capitol Grill in Washington DC this past"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "summer and or this p after that happened"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "with the the it was in this this this"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "year the thing happened in November,"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "right? December but this past summer."}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:36:01", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "and uh or spring. It was not too far"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "after that we were meeting"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "and they wanted to know my opinion about"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "this. I said, \"I told you you you start"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "shooting missiles with Iran, you're"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "going to get uh you're going to get it.\""}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "And they're like, \"Oh my god, this is"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "this this is catastrophic disclosure.\""}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "So that term was coined with me sitting"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "at a meeting with these people back this"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "year."}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "So, they don't want that to happen. They"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "don't want to lose control of the"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "people. They're afraid if they push the"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "button too far, it's going to come down"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "here and wake us all up and take over."}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "They're worried what's going to happen."}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:42", "text": ">> And then they lose their power, their"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "control."}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:45", "text": ">> Continuity of government."}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:47", "text": ">> Continuity government. So, this all"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "points back to the DoD and the Pentagon."}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:52", "text": ">> That's exactly what's going on. So, they"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "backed off of Iran. They quit shooting"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "at one another."}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": ">> The whole thing settled down. But it"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "didn't stop. The minute we put F-35s in"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "Poland,"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:01", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:04", "text": ">> they started shutting down airports over"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "there. The orbs did, not drones."}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:06", "text": ">> The orbs did."}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:11", "text": ">> They're orbs."}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:13", "text": ">> If there were a a nuclear war,"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "do you think these orbs would stop it?"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "They would stop it"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:17", "text": ">> cuz we know that they have shut down"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "nuclear facilities."}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:20", "text": ">> They told them, \"You keep pushing these"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "buttons. We're going to we're going to"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "expose you. We're going to stop it.\" And"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:27", "text": "that's they keep warning them that"}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:29", "text": ">> are the orbs themselves craft or are"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "they beings?"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:31", "text": ">> Both."}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:33", "text": ">> They're both because"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:36", "text": ">> they're they're they're"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "say both because I have video of orb"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "beings coming out of orbs. I can show"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "I'll show you one today where this orb"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "approaches myself and two two or three"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "ladies. One very sick with cancer. It"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "approaches right up to us and flashes"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "and outsteps a 7 foot tall glowing white"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "figure."}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "These orbs, these smaller orbs are"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "beings. When they flash, you see a flash"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "that steps, something just stepped out"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "of it. So, I think it's a way they can"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "come into our world through that light."}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "Um, but I have also seen many and"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "filmed. I have a whole thing of flying"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "saucers and metal balls like the"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "bugosphere,"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "um, tic tacs. We we will put all that"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "footage in this episode because"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "it's all it's all there. It's it's"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "really undebunkable. When I see people"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:33", "text": ">> debunkers try to say that these are"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "airplanes or I I I just don't get it"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "because I've seen the video of it happen"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "in real time where an or will appear and"}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "disappear."}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:45", "text": ">> Yeah. And um and there are places around"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "the world I think like um the H I think"}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:50", "text": "it's the Hassan lights and the Marflal"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "lights and the brown mountain lights."}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "Are these orbs as well in these"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "different places?"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:57", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what they are."}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:58", "text": ">> Where did they come from? Where where"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "did they start?"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:01", "text": ">> They're here. They're around us all the"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "time. We just can't see them."}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:06", "text": ">> I mean the beginning."}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "whoever created consciousness. I look at"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "this is a little different than a lot of"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "people do and I'm slowly"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "creating a hypothesis just you know"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "we're never going to know until there's"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "a lot of you know we may not ever know."}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:27", "text": ">> I I'm wondering where the origin of"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "these beings were. Well, I say my little"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "way a difference in the way I think"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "there and this is biblical"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:36", "text": ">> kind of."}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:38", "text": ">> What are or what are angels?"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "What are they? The Bible says they're"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "messengers,"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:42", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": ">> Doesn't mean as grandma with wings,"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "right? Everybody has a misconception"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "about this. These angels are terrifying"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "experience. It tells you even Diana told"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "me every angelic experience is"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "terrifying because they're creatures,"}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "or or they're different than us. A lot"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "different. They can come any way they"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "want to come. It's a tough question, but"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "I think that they're part I think"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "they're fractals of God or"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "consciousness. The word God and"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "consciousness is the same, right? And I"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "have the greatest time right now"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "watching all these scientists that are"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "atheists saying, \"We're studying"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "consciousness.\" Well, you're studying"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "God, right? So, this is a great thing."}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "And this is what it's all happening."}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "We're studying consciousness,"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "which is what is God? It's everything."}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:29", "text": ">> It's everything. Whether you call it God"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "or the universe or what whatever you"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "call it, it's"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:35", "text": ">> the source of who programmed this world"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "we living in. It's all information. It"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "was all written in code. It was all"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "pre-written. So, somebody programmed"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:42", "text": "this thing that we're living in. It's"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "all programmed."}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:46", "text": ">> It's a simulation."}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a simulation. So if our souls"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "are spun out of the source and these"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "orbs are spun out of the source, what's"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "what what's the difference?"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:55", "text": ">> That's our that's a fractal of God. In"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "other words, how can 7 billion people or"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "8 billion people pray and have a"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "personal experience with God at the same"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "time?"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> They're all connected."}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:05", "text": ">> It's all connected. So these orbs are"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "just a little piece of that. They're a"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "little piece intelligent piece of God"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "responding to you and me. And that's"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "where Jesus said, \"The kingdom of heaven"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "is within us.\" And if you had the faith"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "of a mustard seed, you could tell that"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "mountain to move and it would. So what"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "is he telling us there? They didn't like"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "what he was saying, so they killed him."}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": ">> Yeah, that's right."}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:31", "text": ">> And um but I think that we're magical"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "beings with humongous power."}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:36", "text": ">> Do you think we can all do what you do?"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:38", "text": ">> Yeah, 100%."}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:41", "text": ">> Do you How do you do what you do? How do"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "you cuz you can summon orbs at will."}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:46", "text": ">> I don't call it summoning cuz that is"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "kind of a dark term. You don't summon"}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "these things."}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:53", "text": ">> It's like uh tell ordering God what to"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "do, right? You come Well, you summon"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "things. People say it's evil. Well,"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "they're summoning. You may get evil"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "doing that, right? Stay away from that"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "word because it's not about summoning."}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:06", "text": ">> That's in the Bible as well. They"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. When you talk summoning,"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "whoever's doing that, these guys doing"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "psionic summoning, well, they don't know"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "what they're getting. They're liable to"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "get trouble. Really, you get some bad"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "stuff cuz it's out there, too. But I"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "humble myself and I say a little prayer."}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "I just I have a little prayer that's"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "like this short one, and it's just"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "asking the Holy Spirit"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "whom I believe is the lady, to come"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "share her presence with us. That's all I"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "do. nothing else."}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:37", "text": ">> That's it."}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:40", "text": ">> In front of a thousand people. I I had"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "church at the contact together with"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:42", "text": "Gino, right? He was standing there with"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "me."}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:47", "text": ">> The most liberal"}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "UFO place you could go to. I just had a"}, {"start": "01:42:47", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "little church for about 2 minutes."}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:56", "text": ">> 300 people saw orbs that thousand saw"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "orbs that that you prayed for."}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:02", "text": ">> Yeah. I just asked a little prayer. I I"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "said look I the lady I met"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "I believe is is a divine being."}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "She was made of light. She was floating."}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "She come at me like the wind spirit. Uh"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "could it be the Holy Spirit? I don't"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "know. But that's where I believe. You"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "know it's okay. I believe that we all"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "imagine God in our own way. Sure. Right."}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:27", "text": ">> The problem we have in this world is is"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:29", "text": "this brother Tom over there. He wants to"}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "kill me because I don't think like him,"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "right? Kill you because you're"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "blaspheing. Well, who knows? You know,"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "how do you know?"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:37", "text": ">> How do you know?"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:40", "text": ">> Right? So, that's the problem we've got"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "to come to understand"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "is this whole thing is not"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "in our"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:52", "text": "in our uh we can't imagine"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "this. Why try to own it and name it and"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "kill people and and have wars over"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "something? You have no idea how complex"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "and how mysterious this whole thing is"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "whether you're right or wrong."}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:08", "text": ">> Right. We're living in a in two"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "dimensions and the world is much more"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "complicated."}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:13", "text": ">> Yeah, it's real complex."}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:15", "text": ">> You said something earlier that"}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "kind of frightened me a bit that that"}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:19", "text": "these this energy is here. It's a"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "positive energy. It's a good energy."}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "It's a protective energy."}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:26", "text": ">> What's it protecting us from?"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:27", "text": ">> Um the dark force."}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:30", "text": ">> Oh boy."}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:34", "text": ">> There is a dark force. Let me say this"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "that gives a a little um"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "kind of where I believe this. And I"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "learned this through Dr. Gilbert, Robert"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "Gilbert. He explained something to me"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "about Egypt. He said, 'You know what"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "they dig out of the ground in Egypt the"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "most of all the artifacts they dig up"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "over there? What is it? And that would"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "be pendulums."}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "Pendulums."}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:55", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:58", "text": ">> They get thousands of them and out of"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "the soil there. In fact, Dr. Gilbert uh"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "sold a whole kit of different kinds and"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "he taught people to use them. The"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "Freemasons use them, the Templars and"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "different ones and the old knowledge."}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "These people use them. What the"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "Egyptians would do"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "is that they knew, and Robert explained"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "this, they knew that the earth has these"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "grid lines and they're very close"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:27", "text": "together. Some places they're further"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "apart where they're stretched and all,"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "but he he's just like this. It's like a"}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "tic-tac-toe pattern."}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:35", "text": ">> Some call them lay lines."}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Um you could, but they're"}, {"start": "01:45:35", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "very they're they're abundant and"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:41", "text": "they're they're all over around the"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:43", "text": "whole world. It's just energy travel."}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:45", "text": "north and south and they're going back"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "and forth. I keep buttoning this thing."}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:50", "text": ">> That's fine."}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:54", "text": ">> Um he said those energy lines, some are"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "negative and some are positive"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "and there are there are beings"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "running up and down these energy lines"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "constantly moving back and forth. And if"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "one of those negative lines happened to"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "run through to your house, through a"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "bedroom where your child slept,"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "uh that child could develop very bad"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "problems, sickness, die from it, from"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "this constant negative energy and these"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "evil spirits that are in that. So they"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:27", "text": "took pendulums and they would find these"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "negative lines. They would transmute"}, {"start": "01:46:27", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "them up off the surface to clear the"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "area only leave the positive lines."}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "Right? So then they put these p these"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "obelisk out there. Those things are"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "tuned. These stones are tuned by"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:44", "text": "somebody"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "that we can't replicate. Why does there"}, {"start": "01:46:44", "end": "01:46:49", "text": "one in Central Park from Egypt? Why is"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "there one in Paris from Egypt?"}, {"start": "01:46:49", "end": "01:46:53", "text": ">> London. They go they went to Egypt and"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "got them and brought them back. Right."}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:57", "text": ">> They're tuned to sound frequencies."}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "They're they they transmute this"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "negative energy and that's why all these"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "cities are so big and all the biggest"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:07", "text": "cities have them because and the"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:09", "text": "pyramids were part of that. They were I"}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "think they were tone generators peing"}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:17", "text": "this frequency to transmute the darkness"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:20", "text": ">> 100%. It's it's been proven that if you"}, {"start": "01:47:17", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "send the right frequencies toward the"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "great pyramid, it will amplify it and"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "turn it into energy."}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:25", "text": ">> Amplifier."}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:25", "text": ">> Yeah. exactly what they were."}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:28", "text": ">> I think the water underneath them and"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:29", "text": "the salt that they find in them"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:33", "text": ">> was creating this frequency"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:35", "text": ">> pinging constantly."}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:37", "text": ">> Totally agree. I hate to plug my"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "episode, but we do have an episode about"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "the pyramid as a power plant, as a power"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "generator."}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:44", "text": ">> And there's evidence of it of chemical"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:46", "text": "reactions and hydrogen and and it's all"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "based around sound and music."}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:53", "text": ">> Yeah. There's a belief that the pyramids"}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "were defaced by the Europeans."}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "You know, they were there before Jesus"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "5, 600 years."}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:00", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:03", "text": ">> The Greeks were, but I've heard through"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "Robert that the pyramids used to have"}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "musical notes all over them and that"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "somebody stripped that all off to"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:12", "text": ">> I haven't heard that."}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:15", "text": ">> I'd heard that before."}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:16", "text": ">> So, if there's the negative energy"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:18", "text": "lines,"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "is there also a negative energy source"}, {"start": "01:48:18", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "like we have our source? Well,"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:27", "text": "everything is um yeah, the whole the"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "earth is a is a die hold. The sun"}, {"start": "01:48:27", "end": "01:48:32", "text": "shining on the earth creates the energy"}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "and you can see it in the aurora. That's"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "all electricity."}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:37", "text": ">> So, it's an electrical machine and and"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "it super we're all part of that"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:47", "text": "electrical energy from the sun and um"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:49", "text": ">> yeah, so this uh this negative energy is"}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "like a battery. Everything works on a"}, {"start": "01:48:49", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "positive and a negative pole. You have"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "same way on earth you have positive and"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "negative poles and you have a battery"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "that cranks a car. Ying and yang. It's"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "all the same."}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:04", "text": ">> Okay, that that makes sense to me."}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:07", "text": ">> Good and evil, light and dark."}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:10", "text": ">> What happens when we die? Chris,"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:13", "text": ">> I think that we,"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:15", "text": "you know, in my Christian world, they"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "they preach about and I'm still a"}, {"start": "01:49:15", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "Christian, right? I love I love I was"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "born and raised on Jesus and always"}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "will."}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:24", "text": ">> I don't think anything you said today"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "contradicts religion."}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:31", "text": ">> But I believe a little differently that"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "I don't think that we know enough to to"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "demand it that when you die, you go to"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "heaven. It's out somewhere way. I think"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:42", "text": "it's right here around us. And I think"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "we can come back here."}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "When people ask like I did, what do you"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "think happens when we die? I'm asking"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "out of fear. Are you afraid?"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:54", "text": ">> No, I'm not afraid at all."}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:56", "text": ">> I'm not afraid. And I think that uh"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "we're friends now and we'll be friends"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:02", "text": "forever. This life and the next. So, it"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "works."}, {"start": "01:50:02", "end": "01:50:07", "text": ">> Um I believe there's a possibility in"}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "reincarnation is possible."}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:11", "text": ">> I agree with that."}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:13", "text": ">> Yeah. I want uh I want us to take one"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "more break. If you wouldn't mind coming"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "back for one last segment. Sure."}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:16", "text": ">> I'd love to. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:18", "text": ">> All right. Let's take I'm having fun."}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:20", "text": ">> You're having fun. Uh when we come back,"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "I'd like to talk about remote viewing."}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "Maybe the Memorial Institute, some of"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "that. Okay. Okay."}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:26", "text": ">> We'll back in a sec."}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:29", "text": ">> Tell me about the dragon."}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:32", "text": ">> Tim Taylor, the most elusive man in the"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "in Intel in Euphology."}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "How did you meet him and what's your"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "relationship with him?"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:41", "text": ">> Um Tim"}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "is that most elusive. He's a ghost,"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "right? I like to say that about him. And"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "he's a he is a um he is a ghost because"}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "of his work."}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:52", "text": ">> What What specifically does he"}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:53", "text": ">> pretty much in charge of all the"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "launches?"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:58", "text": ">> All the launches. So NASA"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:51:01", "text": ">> Yeah. NASA, SpaceX, all of them. You"}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:03", "text": "know, NASA runs the launch facility, but"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "they all use that. They rent it."}, {"start": "01:51:03", "end": "01:51:06", "text": ">> And I think it's public knowledge that"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "he consults with Elon Musk, so he's"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "involved."}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:14", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah. So, so imagine,"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "let's just say from what I know that"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "that the National Reconnaissance Office"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "does, you know, they they have eyes on"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:24", "text": "they have the satellites, they own all"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:28", "text": "the observation reconnaissance. That's"}, {"start": "01:51:24", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "right. And so if you took mission"}, {"start": "01:51:28", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "control"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "and and Tim being the Dragon, he's the"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "head he's the head of that. He's in"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "charge, right? So he has mission control"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "is just a there's a square building. It"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "looks like a mobile home that's put"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "together a big double quadruple wide"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:51", "text": "mobile home. Little metal tin on the"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "outside, but there's one hallway in the"}, {"start": "01:51:51", "end": "01:51:58", "text": "middle and it's identical on the left to"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "the right. And this is pretty long"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "hallway. building's not so small, but on"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "the right when you walk down the hall"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "there, you get past the offices and then"}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "there's this big glass wall and you look"}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:12", "text": "over in the glass wall and it's kind of"}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "depressed in there and there all these"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "consoles, people standing there and"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:18", "text": "they're running the launch and the"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "televisions screen on the left is"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:24", "text": "exactly the same, but it's US Air Force"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "people. So over there you got fatigues"}, {"start": "01:52:24", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "on camouflage and they're in there"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "running a launch while this the NASA"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "people on the right. Well, at the end of"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "the hall is where the general is and"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "where Tim's little office is that he"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "goes in after that launch goes up. He"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "goes in there and he has these"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "television screens only for him to see,"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "right? And he's communicating"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "with the team that's flying. um an old"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "friend, he died here a couple years ago."}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "His name Peter Choban."}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "Peter in our guy from Houston. Um I"}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "write about him in my book. He he's"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "there. Uh I love Peter. He was old"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "Texan."}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:14", "text": "But um Peter run the WB57 program out of"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "Houston, which is these big highflying"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "almost like a U2 spy plane thing, but"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "it's bigger. and it lorders around up"}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "there at 50,000 ft. So these groundbased"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "cameras are looking at the rocket when"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "it takes off. It starts getting blurry"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "up that high, but this plane just"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "intercepts it and follows it right on"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "up. It keeps hitting its cameras until"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "it gets to about 100,000 ft. And that's"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:43", "text": "when this other plane called F104 star"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "fighter"}, {"start": "01:53:43", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "equipped with rockets on it and they"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "wear spac suits in that thing. and they"}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "fly way up there and they keep tailing"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "the rocket. So, they're watching it"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "every detail. There's like seven cameras"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "on that plane following it."}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "Once it gets past its range, it goes"}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "into the satellites, right? So, what are"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:07", "text": "they looking for?"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "Two, three things. Big thing is a"}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "mechanical failure. If something goes"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "wrong, they got know how to fix it. But"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "why is the dragon in that one office,"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:25", "text": ">> right? Because often"}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:27", "text": "these these just UFOs, flying saucers,"}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:30", "text": "orbs will approach these rockets in"}, {"start": "01:54:27", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "space and investigate."}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "And I have seen videos of them shooting"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "them out of the sky or disabling them."}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:40", "text": ">> And I'm like, why' they do that? Did"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "they have weapons on that thing? He"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "said, well, there was a mock nuclear"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "warhead on there."}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:46", "text": ">> I have,"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:48", "text": ">> but it wasn't active. It wasn't. It"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "wasn't. But they still wouldn't accept"}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "it when he told me. You saw it."}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:56", "text": ">> You can find that illustration online. I"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "think it it talks about a craft flying"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:54:59", "text": "around a warhead, beaming light at it."}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:01", "text": ">> I saw that video"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:03", "text": ">> until it's disabled."}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:04", "text": ">> I watched it. That's the one I asked"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:06", "text": "him. Why' they do that? Was there a"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "weapon on that thing?"}, {"start": "01:55:06", "end": "01:55:10", "text": ">> I And that told me all I needed to know"}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "because they're protecting. They don't"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "want us up there blowing up warheads and"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:17", "text": "stuff. They don't want weapons in space."}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "How what percentage of astronauts have"}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "seen?"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:20", "text": ">> All of them."}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:22", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:55:20", "end": "01:55:24", "text": ">> All of them. Howal told my wife that one"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "night I'll never forget before he died."}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "He would start talking more. Things he"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "would never tell us. He always said,"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "\"Don't ask me that. The men in black"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "will come get me.\" I'm like, \"Who's the"}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "man in black?\" How? He says, \"A bunch of"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:37", "text": "CIA guys riding around in black trucks."}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:39", "text": ">> They all work for Tim Taylor.\""}, {"start": "01:55:37", "end": "01:55:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:43", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:47", "text": ">> what do you think happened?"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "What do you think we landed on the moon?"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:52", "text": ">> I want to say I I I tell you how"}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "confusing they are. They put out"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "disinformation big time."}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:59", "text": ">> They don't necessarily tell you the"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "truth. And and uh but they will tell you"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "some things if you're paying attention,"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "but a lot of things they'll tell you'll"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "be confusing."}, {"start": "01:56:03", "end": "01:56:10", "text": ">> Limited hangout."}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Uh Tim and Tim told me"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "um and I got Hal now. Howal's my best"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:19", "text": "friend and he he was the he had the"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "David E. Lord Award for 50 years of"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:25", "text": "occultation grazing. That's the the"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "moon. He wrote books on the moon and he"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:31", "text": "was the guy that that um supposedly"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "mapped it where Apollo landed on the"}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:35", "text": "moon. Right? So, he's telling me all"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:37", "text": "about this and that there are buildings"}, {"start": "01:56:35", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "up there that we didn't build. How would"}, {"start": "01:56:37", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "tell me this stuff?"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:42", "text": ">> He said there's structures up there."}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": ">> He said there are old ancient structures"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "and we didn't build them."}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:48", "text": ">> So, do you think that we landed men on"}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "the moon in 1969?"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:54", "text": ">> Well, I hear that and then Tim tells me"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "that uh what do you think of the moon?"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "I'm like"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "it's not that he's telling me. He's"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:01", "text": "planting these ideas in my head. What do"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "you think of the moon? I'm like I don't"}, {"start": "01:57:01", "end": "01:57:05", "text": "know. I've been obsessed with it all my"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "life. You know, I wrote about in the"}, {"start": "01:57:05", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "book. I was a little boy. I was always"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:12", "text": "staring at it. He said, \"You think it's"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:13", "text": "real?"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "Think the moon is real?\""}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:17", "text": ">> That's what he told me. He said, \"You"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "think it's real?\" I said, \"Well, I think"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:23", "text": "so.\" He said, \"Uh, isn't it funny?\" and"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "he give the numbers like 400 million"}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "miles and it's in the exact spot and it"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:31", "text": "never changes its face and it's locked"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "in the locked and"}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:37", "text": ">> how it got there. He said maybe it was"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:39", "text": "towed in position."}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:41", "text": ">> There are ancient Native American"}, {"start": "01:57:39", "end": "01:57:44", "text": "legends about the sky without the moon"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "and when it arrived and the earth was"}, {"start": "01:57:44", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "covered in mist and when the moon"}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "arrived that's when the tides and the"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:50", "text": "oceans formed."}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:52", "text": ">> I had no idea that. Yeah. Wow. So that's"}, {"start": "01:57:50", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "what that's the kind of things that they"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "do. These intel people, they tell you"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "all kinds of things. So I have to try to"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "sift through the data and make my own"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:03", "text": "thoughts. But insinuated that it may"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "have been pulled here."}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:10", "text": ">> A moon that large and that close"}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "has never been found on any planet ever."}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:13", "text": "And we've found thousands of them. We"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "are the only one with this thing."}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "If I had to guess, I would say we went"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "to the moon, saw some things that maybe"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "the government didn't want us to see,"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "and that's why we didn't go back for a"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "while. And maybe"}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:31", "text": ">> Yeah, I think that's probably the truth"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "about it. You know, that we did go there"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "and they were told not to come back."}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:36", "text": ">> They were told not to come back."}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:39", "text": ">> Yeah, most likely."}, {"start": "01:58:36", "end": "01:58:42", "text": ">> So, that leads me to to remote viewing a"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "little bit cuz um Project Stargate,"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:46", "text": ">> right? So you Joe McMonicle is a friend"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "of yours. Project Star good friend of"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "mine. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:53", "text": ">> Ingoing Swan was part of that project."}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "He saw aliens on the moon and said we're"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "not welcome there. And he saw the"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "structures and all of that."}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:02", "text": ">> And earlier you mentioned that you had a"}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:04", "text": "vision or dream about Bigfoot on Mars,"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "which sounds funny, but"}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:07", "text": ">> Joe remote viewed without knowing what"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "he was looking at. He was given"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "coordinates,"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:15", "text": ">> right? And he said he saw large beings"}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "on Mars and he finally opens up the card"}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:20", "text": "and it says it's Mars 1 million years"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "ago."}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:23", "text": ">> You said you've you can remote view or"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "you've trained in it."}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um in fact"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "uh you know I'm on the history channel"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "of being at Monroe Institute and I'm"}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "kind of like an ambassador for them and"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "um I promote them. I love them. my"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "daughter, my son is a trainer for them"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:44", "text": ">> we're big fans of them here."}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And um so I'm a huge"}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "supporter of them. They've helped me out"}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:54", "text": "a whole lot. But remote viewing,"}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "all of us have that capacity. Everybody."}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "Some people it comes easy. Some people"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "have it all the time and don't know"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "what's happening. We all have these"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "moments where say you call you think I'm"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "going to call my wife."}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "pick up the phone and you start dialing"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "and suddenly your wife thinks about AJ"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "and then the phone rings"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:17", "text": ">> always. We all have it,"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:20", "text": ">> right? That's that is the that tells you"}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:23", "text": "one thing that when your wife thought of"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "you, you thought of her,"}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:28", "text": "her thoughts fly through space and"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:31", "text": "you're able to pick up on that. So"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:33", "text": "that's what consciousness is about."}, {"start": "02:00:31", "end": "02:00:35", "text": "is it's floating. It's an internet"}, {"start": "02:00:33", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "around us in our brains is the the"}, {"start": "02:00:35", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "receiver to it. I think our information"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:41", "text": "is stored throughout our whole body,"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "even in our organs. But that's the"}, {"start": "02:00:41", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "computer. That's the CPU that's been"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "shut off and doesn't know this ability."}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:55", "text": ">> What did you see when you remote viewed?"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:58", "text": ">> All kinds of things. Um we're given"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:00:59", "text": "tasks to do. You know, I've taken"}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "training on this stuff. I've been to"}, {"start": "02:00:59", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "classes with it. And uh"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "um it's according what the task was, you"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "know, whatever we're working on. But"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "I've been doing this, they first came to"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "me, let's just say one of the things"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "that that they know that NASA told me a"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:22", "text": "long time ago that people who interact"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "with these orbs become very psychic."}, {"start": "02:01:22", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "So that's natural part of it. All of"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "humanity starts experiencing this. they"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "become very psychic"}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "and um that is that's kind of alarming"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "to the people in power. They don't want"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "us all becoming psychic."}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:41", "text": ">> Well, imagine if"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:42", "text": ">> all of us could communicate with orbs or"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "or remote view"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:47", "text": ">> and we all can"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:49", "text": ">> and maybe that's the awakening"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:53", "text": ">> that you've been told about by the lady."}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:56", "text": ">> I think that's it 100%. I believe the"}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "disclosure is happening and once these"}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "people one at a time begin to realize oh"}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "my god it's real then you become you"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "start awakening and you can develop"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "these powers and it's happening with Dr."}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "Diane Hennessy Pal and uh Dalia and uh"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "Vu which are very close friends of mine."}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:18", "text": "I work with them. Uh we do a lot of work"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "together and all these wonderful kids"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:24", "text": "with Kai Dickens. Uh Kai and I were on"}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "the World Forum just during Christmas,"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "right? She told me I ordered one thing"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:33", "text": "for Christmas and that was your book."}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:33", "text": ">> I thought that was pretty cool, right?"}, {"start": "02:02:33", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "But um"}, {"start": "02:02:33", "end": "02:02:38", "text": ">> well, let me put you on the spot then."}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:41", "text": "What? Cuz you've you've said this"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:43", "text": "before. What's the date? What's the date"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "when Regulus turns red?"}, {"start": "02:02:43", "end": "02:02:45", "text": ">> I don't know that. Uh and I'll tell you"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "why."}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:49", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:51", "text": ">> I was given this riddle by the lady."}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:53", "text": ">> You've been misqued."}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I'm misqued all the time."}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "I've got people on the internet saying"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "Chris says this or Chris says that. I've"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:02", "text": "never said that. Chris says that the"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:04", "text": "Spinx is going to open up its paw and"}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "all this. Right. I never said that."}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "Edgar Casey said that, right? It's all"}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "over the internet. Uh but what um"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:14", "text": ">> you say a lot of things that Edgar Casey"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:15", "text": "said about all Hall of Records and stuff"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "similarities."}, {"start": "02:03:15", "end": "02:03:21", "text": ">> Well, it's all part of um this"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "progression and studying. I study"}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "everybody. I'm on admission myself."}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:33", "text": "But what I do know is when I when the"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "lady told me about this many years ago"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:38", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:43", "text": "about the the Regulus and and this the"}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "star I immediately called a a a a"}, {"start": "02:03:43", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "literary agent friend of mine Lisa"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:51", "text": "Hagen. Lisa's a very close friend lives"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "in Virginia book publisher"}, {"start": "02:03:51", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "and I told her we were working on a"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:59", "text": "manuscript Lisa and we were talking all"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "the time. So I told her about this and"}, {"start": "02:03:59", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "um she said oh my I know a lot of people"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "that does astrology they I write they"}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "write books you know I said well find"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:09", "text": "out if this is going to happen if it's"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "really real. I don't know if it's going"}, {"start": "02:04:09", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "to happen. It was just a riddle she gave"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "me. So she calls"}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "um Kurt Nielsen from uh he's part of the"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "the Edgar Casey Research Center and"}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "different ones and they all came back to"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "me way back then September"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:33", "text": "of 2026 this is going to take place. So"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "for seven or eight years that's all I"}, {"start": "02:04:33", "end": "02:04:37", "text": "preached about. You can look at many"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "podcasts at older ones and I I'm always"}, {"start": "02:04:37", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "saying September of 2026"}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "when I wrote the book. I thought I"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "better fact check this. And so I called"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "Lisa back and I said, \"Lisa, um, you"}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "remember this? Tell me, am I correct?"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:56", "text": "Wouldn't it September?\" She said, \"Oh, I"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:58", "text": "think we made a mistake there. I think"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:01", "text": "they believe now it's going to be an"}, {"start": "02:04:58", "end": "02:05:03", "text": "Easter around April.\" And I thought,"}, {"start": "02:05:01", "end": "02:05:05", "text": "well, that makes sense because the lady"}, {"start": "02:05:03", "end": "02:05:08", "text": "always comes on Easter."}, {"start": "02:05:05", "end": "02:05:10", "text": "So that's what I went with. But I never"}, {"start": "02:05:08", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "really felt"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "because for eight or nine years, that's"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "all I said was in September. I was never"}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:20", "text": "sold on it other than the ladies always"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "associated with Easter or has been."}, {"start": "02:05:20", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "That's when she comes. And"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "but now I see that these astrologers are"}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "still unsure of the when this alignment"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:32", "text": "will happen. And some are saying October"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "or something."}, {"start": "02:05:32", "end": "02:05:33", "text": ">> October 7th."}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:37", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:39", "text": ">> October 7th, 2026 at 5:30 a.m. it will"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "line up with the Sphinx. And if the"}, {"start": "02:05:39", "end": "02:05:42", "text": "atmosphere conditions are correct, that"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:47", "text": "blue star is going to turn red."}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:47", "text": ">> Well, that's that's the date."}, {"start": "02:05:47", "end": "02:05:52", "text": ">> This is scientific. If if if it's a like"}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "have a harvest moon or"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:57", "text": ">> that red dust from the Sahara, if that"}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:05:57", "text": "happens, that blue star is turning red"}, {"start": "02:05:57", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "that day."}, {"start": "02:05:57", "end": "02:06:00", "text": ">> And that's what date? October. October"}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "7th, 2026."}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:06", "text": ">> Okay. Cuz I'm planning to go in the fall"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "to Egypt. I wasn't really set on e"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "Easter and and and so you know, even"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:15", "text": "though I wrote in the book"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:19", "text": "still, if you read what I wrote, it was"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "just that I become to believe"}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "I was never really sure uh when that"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:27", "text": "alignment and I'm totally dependent on"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:29", "text": "the the experts to tell me when that'll"}, {"start": "02:06:27", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "be. And now I'm here in October 7th,"}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "right? So that's probably when I'll be"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "in Egypt."}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:39", "text": ">> And I think it's important for everybody"}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "to know that when and if that happens,"}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "we're not going to see magical visions"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:46", "text": "in the sky. It it could be a very subtle"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "just shift."}, {"start": "02:06:46", "end": "02:06:50", "text": ">> Yeah. I think it's going to be something"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "that comes and goes, but we'll all"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:54", "text": "realize"}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:58", "text": ">> in the next 5 years. Boy, that dude"}, {"start": "02:06:54", "end": "02:07:01", "text": "really 12 years ago made this prediction"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:03", "text": "that the orbs would appear when Israel"}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "and Egypt and all that, but well, it all"}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "happened. I've been saying it 12 years,"}, {"start": "02:07:05", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "right? And now,"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:15", "text": "um, I think it's just going to mark a"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "change, uh, a a new"}, {"start": "02:07:15", "end": "02:07:18", "text": "I think we're going to learn some things"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:20", "text": "between now and then that's going to"}, {"start": "02:07:18", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "shock us all. I think disclosure is"}, {"start": "02:07:20", "end": "02:07:24", "text": "going to come more real. The"}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "government's going to reveal more"}, {"start": "02:07:24", "end": "02:07:29", "text": "things. I have a little birdie telling"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:31", "text": "me that Egypt is about to release"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "something this year that's going to"}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:34", "text": "rewrite history."}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:35", "text": ">> Is that right?"}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:36", "text": ">> Yeah. I've been asked to be a part of"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:37", "text": "it."}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:38", "text": ">> Can you share any of that?"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:40", "text": ">> I can't."}, {"start": "02:07:38", "end": "02:07:42", "text": ">> Can you tell me where in Egypt or"}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:44", "text": ">> I just know it's through the Egyptian"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:45", "text": "government through the antiquities"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:48", "text": "authority."}, {"start": "02:07:45", "end": "02:07:50", "text": ">> I don't I don't trust those guys."}, {"start": "02:07:48", "end": "02:07:51", "text": ">> I don't either, but there are very valid"}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "scientists in the United States that are"}, {"start": "02:07:51", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "a part of it."}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:56", "text": ">> There are and there's a lot happening in"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "the Valley of the Kings right now. It"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:07:59", "text": "could be they just discovered a new a"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "new pharaoh there. It could be something"}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:02", "text": "out of that dick."}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:03", "text": ">> I think it's more about what's under the"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "ground,"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:06", "text": ">> man. I hope we're talking about the Hall"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "of Records."}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:10", "text": ">> I I don't know. They didn't tell me."}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "They just told me they want me in Egypt"}, {"start": "02:08:10", "end": "02:08:15", "text": "this year and that they were going to"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "reveal something that's going to rewrite"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:17", "text": "history."}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:19", "text": ">> There's a there's a story that that I"}, {"start": "02:08:17", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "tell on the show about Dorothy Edy. I"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "don't know if that rings a bell."}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:22", "text": ">> Dorothy who?"}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:25", "text": ">> Dorothy Edy."}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:28", "text": ">> Edy. I don't know her. She she's she's"}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "born in England early 1900s and since"}, {"start": "02:08:28", "end": "02:08:34", "text": "she's a child she's always drawn to"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "ancient Egypt and her parents don't know"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:38", "text": "why and they take her to the British"}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "Museum one day she's four or five years"}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "old and she goes to the mummy of the"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:48", "text": "pharaoh that might have been Ramsy's the"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "great and she's crying and she's says"}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:54", "text": "that's that's who I I know him they give"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:56", "text": "her a book about ancient Egypt"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:57", "text": "As a child, she's able to pick up"}, {"start": "02:08:56", "end": "02:09:00", "text": "hieroglyphics. She can she speaks the"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:02", "text": "language. She eventually goes to Egypt"}, {"start": "02:09:00", "end": "02:09:03", "text": "and she knows her way around all the"}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "temples."}, {"start": "02:09:03", "end": "02:09:05", "text": ">> She believes that she's reincarnated."}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:10", "text": ">> From an ancient Egyptian priestess"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "called Amseti. And she says that"}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:15", "text": "underneath the Sphinx are these chambers"}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "and there's knowledge down there. And"}, {"start": "02:09:15", "end": "02:09:20", "text": "this is someone who worked Dorothy"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "worked with antiquities for years. They"}, {"start": "02:09:20", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "trusted her."}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:26", "text": ">> Oh, wow. So you've got scientific"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "evidence with a little bit of the"}, {"start": "02:09:26", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "spiritualism of reincarnation. You've"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:32", "text": "got Edgar Casey's predictions. You've"}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "got the people that you know. We've got"}, {"start": "02:09:32", "end": "02:09:37", "text": "liar GPR showing all these cavities."}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "There's something down there."}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:40", "text": ">> Definitely. And they're going to tell"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "about it this year"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:45", "text": ">> if it it changes everything."}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So I think that'll be part of this"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "new knowledge. This is going to happen."}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "It's going to rewrite uh it's going to"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "rewrite uh that an old way there's a new"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:10:00", "text": "way a new knowledge uh I think you're"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "going to see fusion energy"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "all that come"}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:07", "text": ">> helium 3"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:10", "text": ">> all that well imagine a world tomorrow"}, {"start": "02:10:07", "end": "02:10:12", "text": ">> to where Elon doesn't need rockets"}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:14", "text": "anymore"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:16", "text": ">> but there are going to be forces that"}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "are going to fight that every step of"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "the way"}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:18", "text": ">> are they still are."}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:21", "text": ">> And they still are."}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:22", "text": ">> And they just killed the fusion expert."}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "I tell you right, they just killed him."}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:26", "text": ">> They just killed them."}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:29", "text": ">> And they're planning to roll fusion out."}, {"start": "02:10:26", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "That means, you know what that means?"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:32", "text": "About 80% of everything you buy is"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "energy cost."}, {"start": "02:10:32", "end": "02:10:33", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:36", "text": ">> Energy."}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:40", "text": ">> So what happens if energy is free?"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "Then we become very wealthy and um"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "everything gets very cheap and right the"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:47", "text": "living becomes a lot different"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:48", "text": ">> and those who that power structure it it"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "kind of goes away."}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:54", "text": ">> Well that's part of the new knowledge."}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:57", "text": ">> The lady said she was going to wake the"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:11:00", "text": "people up and reveal expose the darkness"}, {"start": "02:10:57", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "and look at all what's being exposed"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:06", "text": "right now all around the world. This"}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "things that people are horrified over."}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:15", "text": "seeing and you know dark politics and"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:17", "text": "child trafficking. Who ever thought in"}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:22", "text": "the this year in 2025 we'd be"}, {"start": "02:11:17", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "trafficking children or people and the"}, {"start": "02:11:22", "end": "02:11:27", "text": "US is the biggest trafficker it seems."}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:29", "text": ">> It seems so. I I think everybody can"}, {"start": "02:11:27", "end": "02:11:32", "text": "sense can sense that something's"}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:35", "text": "happening and can sense that there's a"}, {"start": "02:11:32", "end": "02:11:37", "text": "ongoing war between good and evil. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:11:35", "end": "02:11:39", "text": "that's and I think the the the good is"}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:41", "text": "going to prevail and all the evil is"}, {"start": "02:11:39", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "going to be exposed. That's my"}, {"start": "02:11:41", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "prediction that's going to happen. I"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "don't think we're going down the road of"}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "Armageddon. I think we're going up to a"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:55", "text": "new time of happiness and after all"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "these dark individuals are exposed and"}, {"start": "02:11:55", "end": "02:11:59", "text": "kicking and screaming and it's"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "02:11:59", "end": "02:12:02", "text": ">> I'm going to I'm going to choose to"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "believe you. Chris, thank you so much"}, {"start": "02:12:02", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "for coming today."}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:06", "text": ">> Thank you. name of your book is"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:10", "text": ">> UFO of God."}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:12", "text": ">> UFO of God. Um, and I would say it's an"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "excellent book. Even if you're not into"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:17", "text": "UFOs or religion, it's a fantastic"}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:21", "text": "story. It's a great book."}, {"start": "02:12:17", "end": "02:12:24", "text": ">> Thank you for that. It's on Amazon"}, {"start": "02:12:21", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "um and most other outlets. I"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:29", "text": "self-published it, but the crazy thing"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "is that it's been in the top three to"}, {"start": "02:12:29", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "five in its categories for three years"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "now."}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:34", "text": ">> Well, let's get it up to number one. And"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:38", "text": "when's your next book coming out?"}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:40", "text": ">> Hopefully by summertime."}, {"start": "02:12:38", "end": "02:12:43", "text": ">> Now, for fans of the W files, you know"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:46", "text": "the saying is there's always a book. Um,"}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:48", "text": "something to keep in mind, folks, is"}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "that Chris didn't monetize his story for"}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:50", "text": "15 years."}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:51", "text": ">> 15 years. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:12:50", "end": "02:12:56", "text": ">> Right. So,"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:13:00", "text": ">> I never wrote about it until um 2022."}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "This started in 20 2007."}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "and all the research I've done. I have"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:08", "text": "spent"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "I have spent more time out filming the"}, {"start": "02:13:08", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "sky than any three people you can come"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:16", "text": "up with. Nobody probably has spent the"}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "amount of time I have out observing the"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "sky. And I've done it all on my dime."}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "And it was I get people saying, \"Oh, you"}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "got the horrible camera. You should do"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "this. You Why don't you go out and do"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "the filming?\""}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:32", "text": ">> Well, let's let's support his work,"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "gang. grab that book and uh and I'll"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "keep everybody posted with what you're"}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:37", "text": "doing and how we can support your work."}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "It's very important."}, {"start": "02:13:37", "end": "02:13:44", "text": ">> Um I do believe we're in a battle with"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:46", "text": "darkness and your message is is valuable"}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "and important and it's it's a weapon for"}, {"start": "02:13:46", "end": "02:13:50", "text": "for good and we all need to wield it."}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:54", "text": ">> I appreciate that, AJ. And if things go"}, {"start": "02:13:50", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "right in the next 30 or 45 days, we're"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:59", "text": "going to we're going to step it up and"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:03", "text": "start an expedition out your way and"}, {"start": "02:13:59", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "hope to have you and Gino to come along"}, {"start": "02:14:03", "end": "02:14:05", "text": "with us at times if you want."}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:07", "text": ">> We'll be a part of it."}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:09", "text": ">> We're going to film this guy every night"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:11", "text": "and and get more serious about it."}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:11", "text": ">> We'll be a part of it."}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:16", "text": ">> All right, Chris. Thanks again and God"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:20", "text": "bless. So, we just spent 3 hours with"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "Chris Bledstoneone, and I need to sit"}, {"start": "02:14:20", "end": "02:14:25", "text": "with this a minute. Here's what we know."}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "The January 8th, 2007 incident at"}, {"start": "02:14:25", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "Capefar River is documented. Chris, his"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:33", "text": "17-year-old son, and three adult"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:35", "text": "co-workers were all present, and all of"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "them reported what they saw. Muon"}, {"start": "02:14:35", "end": "02:14:38", "text": "investigated, though Chris says the"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "investigation became a hit job, and"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:43", "text": "that's probably true. What's harder to"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "dismiss is who came next. Harold"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:48", "text": "Pavvenmire, a NASA engineer who worked"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "on project Apollo and spent 59 years at"}, {"start": "02:14:48", "end": "02:14:52", "text": "the agency. He investigated Chris for"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "over a decade and couldn't debunk him."}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "Pavvenmire died in 2019, still"}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:14:59", "text": "believing. Jim Seivan, a 25-year veteran"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:02", "text": "of the CIA's clandestine service, wrote"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "the forward to Chris's book. Dr. Hal"}, {"start": "02:15:02", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "Puto put off from SRRI, the guy who ran"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "the CIA's remote viewing program. He's"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:10", "text": "also studied the case. These aren't"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:12", "text": "fringe characters. These are real"}, {"start": "02:15:10", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "people. As for the big claims, Chris"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:16", "text": "says his Crohn's disease was cured after"}, {"start": "02:15:14", "end": "02:15:18", "text": "the encounter and that he has"}, {"start": "02:15:16", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "documentation from UNCC Chapel Hill"}, {"start": "02:15:18", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "showing no markers remain. Well, I"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:23", "text": "couldn't find independent medical"}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "verification of that. It's his word and"}, {"start": "02:15:23", "end": "02:15:28", "text": "his records. But here's where it gets"}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "interesting. Chris claims orbs interact"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "with nuclear sites. Well, that's"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:35", "text": "actually documented elsewhere. There's"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:37", "text": "the 1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base"}, {"start": "02:15:35", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "incident where Captain Robert Salis"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "reported a glowing red object hovering"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:42", "text": "over the facility. right before"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:44", "text": "10-minute man nuclear missiles went"}, {"start": "02:15:42", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "offline. That's been testified under"}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:48", "text": "oath before Congress. UFO activity"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "around nuclear facilities isn't"}, {"start": "02:15:48", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "infringed conspiracy. It's in Pentagon"}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:55", "text": "records. Now, here's what I'm still"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:57", "text": "chewing on. The lady, this feminine"}, {"start": "02:15:55", "end": "02:15:59", "text": "being of light that appears to Chris on"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:00", "text": "Easter, that he connects to Hatheror, to"}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:03", "text": "Fatima, to the divine feminine"}, {"start": "02:16:00", "end": "02:16:05", "text": "traditions across cultures, and the 2026"}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:07", "text": "prophecy. When the star Regulus aligns"}, {"start": "02:16:05", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "in the gaze of the Sphinx, a new"}, {"start": "02:16:07", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "knowledge will come into the world. Now,"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "the astronomy nerds have run the"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:16", "text": "numbers, and nobody agrees on the exact"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "date. Some say Easter, some say August,"}, {"start": "02:16:16", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "but it's probably going to be October"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "7th. Chris says he's been saying this"}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:24", "text": "since 2012, long before anyone was"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "calculating alignments. So my take is"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:28", "text": "that Chris Bledsoe is either sitting on"}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "experiences that bridge the gap between"}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "UFOs, spirituality, and human"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "consciousness in ways we don't have"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:37", "text": "language for yet, or he's the most"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "convincing experiencer in modern history"}, {"start": "02:16:37", "end": "02:16:42", "text": "with an unusual talent for attracting"}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:43", "text": "highle interest. What I can't explain"}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "away is the caliber of people who"}, {"start": "02:16:43", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "investigated him and walked away"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:51", "text": "believers. NASA engineers, CIA officers,"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "Pentagon officials. Something about this"}, {"start": "02:16:51", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "case keeps pulling serious people in,"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:57", "text": "and that's what keeps me thinking about"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:16:59", "text": "it. Chris's book is UFO of God,"}, {"start": "02:16:57", "end": "02:17:01", "text": "available on Amazon. He self-published"}, {"start": "02:16:59", "end": "02:17:04", "text": "it, and he's been in the top five in its"}, {"start": "02:17:01", "end": "02:17:05", "text": "category for 3 years. If you want to go"}, {"start": "02:17:04", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "deeper on his story, that's where to"}, {"start": "02:17:05", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "start. Until next time, be safe, be"}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "kind, know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "02:17:22", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "Oh"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:36", "text": "I play Bibia in area 51. A secret code"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "inside the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "02:17:36", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "well as music songs hanging like I"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:48", "text": "should."}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:51", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "02:17:48", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "becomes the truth my friends"}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "02:18:05", "end": "02:18:14", "text": "I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside"}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "Mel's home with MKL. I feel only aware."}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:20", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "landing alone on a film set of the"}, {"start": "02:18:20", "end": "02:18:26", "text": "shadow people there?"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "The Roswell aliens just fought the"}, {"start": "02:18:26", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "smiling man. I'm told"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "and his name was cold. But I can't"}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:39", "text": "agree. I'm catching with the fish"}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:45", "text": "on Thursday night"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:45", "text": "and my family through the night."}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "All"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "the truth"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:17", "text": "The m sidings and the solar storm still"}, {"start": "02:19:14", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "come to gather the young city"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "underground."}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:26", "text": "Mysterious number stations, Planet"}, {"start": "02:19:22", "end": "02:19:30", "text": "Circle, Project Stargate, and where the"}, {"start": "02:19:26", "end": "02:19:33", "text": "dark watchers found"}, {"start": "02:19:30", "end": "02:19:37", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though."}, {"start": "02:19:33", "end": "02:19:41", "text": "The black night"}, {"start": "02:19:37", "end": "02:19:43", "text": "so I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"start": "02:19:41", "end": "02:19:45", "text": "fish"}, {"start": "02:19:43", "end": "02:19:51", "text": "on Thursday night when they chase you"}, {"start": "02:19:45", "end": "02:19:51", "text": "and my all through the night."}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "I never wanted to hear the truth. So"}, {"start": "02:19:56", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "all through the night"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "that's when they"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "all"}, {"start": "02:20:30", "end": "02:20:37", "text": "Girl loves to dance."}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "Your girl loves to dance"}, {"start": "02:20:37", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "because she is a camel. Camel loves to"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "dance. When the feeling is wasting time."}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "Heat."}]

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He"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "returned home miraculously healed. Since"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "then, he's been studied by highle"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "officials from the CIA, NASA, and the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Vatican. So, while the public sees a"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "humble southern man, the CIA and NASA"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "see a human receiver for nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> So, now I've got two huge balls of fire."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> How far away are they?"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> They were probably 300 y."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> Okay. A good ways away."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> 200 ft in the air setting right above"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the trees and and just this flame going"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "around them and these little tips of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "fire was shooting off these things. I"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "stood up to run. And the minute I stood"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "up to run, right up here above me,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "another one appeared and shot down right"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "in front of me. And at that moment, AJ,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "I knew that it knew what I was thinking."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "I knew that it saw me and I knew I felt"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "like a like I was a I was captured."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> You're a hunter and now you're on the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "other side of it."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> You knew it was watching you. Was that"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "was that like an animal instinct or did"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "you hear it, feel it? It it was"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "connected to my thoughts and I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "get away."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "They wiped my memory."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Then the lights went out. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "everything just went out."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> Dark"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and there were these two little uh"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "creatures that were uh glowing and in a"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "dark night they looked just like almost"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "black figures there but with red eyes."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "If it was their eyes that were red,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "that's what he was seeing. between eight"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "and nine maybe 10 stars bright. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Venus that just appeared above us. They"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "just like come on and then they just"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "started flying around and doing it's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "almost like somebody choreographed it."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "We thought the world was coming to an"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "end that we were being invaded."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "That turned into a backfire cuz the more"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "I talked about it, the worse it got."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "And so now I've got the school"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "questioning my kids. Next thing I know,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "social services is at my house trying to"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "take me out of the house from my family."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "So all this is the darkness. For 5"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "years, this went on."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "In Ezekiel 40, he talks about meeting a"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "messenger made of shiny bronze who shows"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "them this temple of the future."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "And I thought you had an experience kind"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "of like that."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> That's where they took me."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "But after Dr. Okonnell came from Harvard"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "and he started working on me, he said"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "you'll remember it all over time."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> He was a student of Dr. Mack. No."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> Yeah. John Mack. He trained under Mac."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> So John Mack for folks listening was an"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "expert psychiatrist,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "award-winning at Harvard who specialized"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "in abduction and experiences."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> Yeah. He actually started all this"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "research."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "And here I'm working with NASA, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "I've got a NASA scientist at my house"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "and I'm down at Cape Canaveral and all"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "these places."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "It was a NASA scientist Al Papa went to"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "my mom and dad's house and said, \"You"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "need to listen to your son. He's not"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "lying.\""}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Don't worry, gang. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "get into all that in a moment."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "to you by PDS debt."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Hey, thanks for checking out another"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "compilation. Today we're doing cryptids,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "and we have a lot of them. First,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> human, don't panic, but I've detected an"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "unidentified aerial phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "approximately 2.7 mi from your house."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> Is it a plane? I'm right near the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "airport."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Well, this is exhibiting nonlinear"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "flight characteristics."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Nonlinear flight characteristics? It"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "means it's not flying in a straight"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "line."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> I know what it means."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> I've set up a complete UFO detection"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "array, an industrial grade magma, tree"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "cases of Reese's pieces, and Gertie on a"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "roof as a biological sensor."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "[snorts]"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> You need to get her off my roof."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> This is code golden rod."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Code golden rod is financial emergency."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Uh what's the code for alien"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "invasion again? Code Vermilion."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Oh, right. Cuz it rhymes with reptilian."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> But there's no alien invasion."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> Wait, it's changing course. Human, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "head door to house. I'm engaging in head"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "surveillance mode."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Please don't."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "I guess today is going to be one of"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "those. So, let's kick it off with the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Moth Man."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> Surely you can't be serious. I am"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "serious. And don't call me Shirley."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> Thank goodness you're here. Uh where's"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "the first aid kit and uh and and an"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "extra cash stash?"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> What's the cash for now?"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> I got to pay this guy off to keep quiet."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> What are you talking about? What"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "happened?"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> Oh, I wanted a Beaver Brothers. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "look at you, Wyatt. I wanted a Beaver"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Brothers bit of customer."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> What do you mean a customer?"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> Well, we thought the guy's hand was a"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "biscotti. Uh, look, it was dry, knobbly,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "and honestly, the guy was asking for it."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Uh, it's not my fault if he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "moisturize."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Why was some guy trying to touch Wyatt?"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> Oh, that's how we do things here at the"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Beaver Cafe."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Oh, yes. You bring a date, order a"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "drink, and spend an hour petting a"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "beaver together."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Do you even hear yourself? Do you know"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "how that sounds?"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> That sounds adorable. Uh, it's about"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "connection. It's about touch. It's about"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "beaver enrichment. You know, not a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "of people have experience touching a"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "nice beaver."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> You charge people to touch wet beavers."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> How do something healing about it? A"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "warm latte in one hand, a nice wet"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "beaver in the other. Now, that's what I"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "call wellness."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> Look, what is this really about?"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> I'm up to debt in my beautiful camel"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "latte sending bills. And not only do I"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "have to pay that guy off, I have to pay"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "off my credit card debt. But before"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "that, I need to pay whatever I charge at"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "2:00 a.m. when I thought I was buying a"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "hot tub. Well, I got to stop taking"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "ambient and going on Amazon."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. 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Get"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "your free personalized assessment and"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the best option for you at"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "pdsbet.com/files."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "PDSD.com/file."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> That's one less flaming disaster."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> You mean your debt?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> No, the IRS sorted. Apparently, beaver"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "fondling uh isn't a valid business"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "discussion. Go figure. Uh listen, I got"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "to go dirty's back. I sent her for milk,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "but they ran out, so uh h she made her"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "own. Honey, you know that's not"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "pasteurized."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "This legend begins as so many do. Three"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "gravediggers working in a cemetery hear"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "something overhead. They look up and see"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "a creature. It's almost 10 ft tall with"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "massive wings. It's perched on a high"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "tree branch staring at them with glowing"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "red eyes. [music] Then in an instant,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "it's gone. 3 days later, just a few"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "miles away, two young couples burst into"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the local police station. Terrified,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "they report being chased by a tall man"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "with wings and glowing red eyes. More"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "and more people would report seeing a"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "creature that stood on two legs, [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "was at least 8 ft tall, and had wings."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Some said it was half man, half bird."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Others said it was half man, half bat."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "But the name that stuck was the Moth"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Man. Though the Moth Man terrorized"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "hundreds of people for a year, it"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "[music] never physically harmed anyone."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "But 13 months later, that would change"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "and 46 men, women, and children would"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "end up at the bottom of the Ohio River."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Nestled along the banks of the Ohio"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "River, Point Pleasant, West Virginia"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "take me home."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "I belong. [screaming]"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> Okay. Okay, that's enough."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Take me home."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Country roads."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Well, I'm sorry, but if I don't finish"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "it, that song will be stuck in my head"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "all day."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> Less than 3 miles from one end to the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "other, Point Pleasant is the type of"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "town where everybody knows everybody."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "It's a peaceful place, quiet. But Point"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Pleasant has a dark and bloody past. In"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "1774, a few local tribes, including the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Mingo and the Shaunie, tried to stop"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "American settlers from encroaching on"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "their territory. On October 10th, a"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "fierce battle was fought between the"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "tribes led by Chief Cornstck against"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "about a thousand Virginia militia led by"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Colonel Andrew Lewis. The battle raged"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "for hours and eventually became"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "hand-to-hand combat. The Shauny Warriors"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "fought bravely, but they were"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "outnumbered 2 to1. Cornstck had no"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "choice but to surrender and sign a peace"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "treaty with the militia. Three years"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "later, in the fall of 1777,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Cornstck and his son traveled to Fort"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Randolph, which had been built at the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "site of the battle. Kornstck wanted to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "inform the fort's commander, Captain"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Matthew Arbuckle, that colonists were"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "violating the treaty, and to warn"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Arbuckle that the British were trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "recruit the tribes to fight against the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "American settlers. Arbuckle placed"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Cornstck and his [music] son under"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "arrest. They were imprisoned along with"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "two other Shaunies that were taken"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "hostage a few weeks earlier. The four"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Shaunies were well treated, but they"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "were not permitted to leave. Arbuckle"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "felt that as long as he had the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "hostages, the Shaunie wouldn't attack"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the fort. A few weeks later, a young"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "American was killed by natives nearby,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "though nobody knows why or what tribe"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "did it. When word reached the fort, a"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "mob of militia men shoved Captain"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Arbuckle aside and stormed the fort's"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "jail. They brutally executed Cornstck,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "his son, and the other two Shaunies. But"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "just before Cornstalk died, he cursed"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the settlers and the land. [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> I came to the fort as your friend, and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "you murdered me. You have murdered by my"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "side, my young son. For this, may the"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "curse of the great spirit rest upon this"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "land. May it be blighted by nature. May"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "it even be blighted in its hopes. May"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the strength of its peoples be paralyzed"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "by the stain of our blood."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> Soon, a town emerged in the area, but"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "few settlers knew their homes were built"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "on top of mass graves. the skeletons of"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "the Battle of Point Pleasant. Nor did"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "they realize their land was cursed. Over"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the years, Point Pleasant would indeed"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "be hit with natural disasters. But it"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "would be in December 1967 when Chief"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Cornstck, murdered while on a mission of"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "peace, would take his [music] ultimate"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "revenge."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "The Silver Bridge was a marvel of"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "engineering and a source of pride for"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the local community. It connected Point"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Pleasant, West Virginia to Gallup"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Police, Ohio, and thousands of vehicles"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "crossed every day. It was rush hour on"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "December 15th, 1967, [music] and the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "bridge was packed. It was Friday night,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "and commuters were rushing home to get a"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "jump on the weekend. Holiday shoppers"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "had cars filled with Christmas gifts. As"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the sun set and twilight descended over"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the bridge, traffic slowed to a halt."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Suddenly, a loud crack was heard and"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "then an unnatural screeching sound."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Before anyone realized what happened,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "People in their cars watched in horror"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "as the bridge buckled and began to shake"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "violently. The sound of steel twisting"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "and tearing was deafening. The scene was"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "something out of a nightmare. People"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "screamed and ran in all directions,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "desperately trying to escape the chaos."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "But for people on the bridge, [music] it"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "was too late. In just a few moments, the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "entire bridge collapsed into the icy"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "waters of the Ohio River. 36 cars and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "trucks fell into the river, dragging"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "their passengers [music] down with them."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "The water was freezing, and the current"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "was strong. Rescue attempts were almost"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "impossible."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> We heard this terrible boom, and my boys"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "looked around and saw the bridge"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "starting to fall. In the aftermath, 44"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "bodies of men, women, and children were"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "pulled from the river, and another two"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "people were never found. In the days"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "leading up to the Silver Bridge"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "collapse, people in the area reported a"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "feeling of unease that they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "quite explain. Two photos of the bridge"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "were taken about a week before the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "disaster."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Wa! What the hell is that?"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> People passing through the area saw a"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "bat-like creature hovering near the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "bridge, a creature that locals called"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "the Moth Man."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "The TNT area of Point Pleasant got its"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "name because during World War II, it was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the location of the West Virginia"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Ordinance Works, a large weapons"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "factory. After the war, the factory was"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "abandoned. And not long after that, the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "area became a dumping ground for toxic"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "waste and dangerous chemicals. And not"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "long after that, the area became a"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "center of strange activity. UFOs were"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "often seen in the area. Some people's"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "dogs would become agitated by something,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "run out to the woods to investigate, and"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "then disappear. On November 2nd, 1966,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Woodro Darrenburgger is driving through"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "the area on his way home. He sees some"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "kind of craft landed in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "the road. Darrenburgger stops his car"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "and a door on the craft opens. Out walks"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "an ordinary man. Darren Berger describes"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "him as having average height and build"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "and dark hair, but he did wear an"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "unusual and unnatural looking broad"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "grin. The strange man tells"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Darrenburgger telepathically that his"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "name is Indred Cold from a planet called"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Lanulus. Over the next few years, Indred"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Cold would visit Woodro Darrenburgger"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "several more times. That very same"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "night, two men had to stop their vehicle"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "when a craft landed in the road directly"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "in front of them. That craft opened and"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "outwalked an ordinary man with a wide"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "grin. The men said the stranger asked"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "them odd questions, then got back in the"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "craft and took off into the sky again."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "On that same night, a woman in the next"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "town over sees a bright flash in the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "sky. Then a cylinder-shaped craft lands"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "in a parking lot. It opens and two men"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "come out. They asked her strange"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "questions in an odd dialect. Then they"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "got back in their ship and flew away."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "All these people seem to be describing"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "injured cold. And the story of injured"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "cold is a wild one. So let me know if"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "you want me to cover it. The area around"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Point Pleasant was suddenly flooded with"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "paranormal activity. Not just UFOs, but"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "other lights in the sky. Poltergeists"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "and ghosts were being seen. Electrical"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "disturbances were burning out people's"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "televisions. Telephones were ringing at"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "all hours, day and night. But there was"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "nothing on the line but static. And it"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "all started happening when on November"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "1st, 1966, the night before the grinning"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "man appeared, a National Guardsman"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "reported seeing a half man, half bird"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "watching him from high in a tree. After"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "a minute, it disappeared. 2 weeks later,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "the birdman was seen again. Four men"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "were working in a cemetery digging a"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "grave. As the sun set, they saw a flying"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "man hovering right over the cemetery. 3"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "days later, on November 15th, Roger and"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "Linda Scarbury decided to go for a"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "drive. They picked up their friends"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Steve and Mary Mlette and cruised"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "through the TNT area. Driving past an"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "old power plant, they saw a tall man"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "standing in the road. But as they got"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "closer, they realized it wasn't a man."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "At least not a normal man. It was a"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "humanoid creature at least 7 feet tall,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "pale with wings folded on its back."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> One of the witnesses, Linda Scarbury,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "said its eyes glowed red and were"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "hypnotic and disturbing. As they got"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "closer, it ran toward the power plant"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "and disappeared. In a panic, Roger"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "floored it and tore away down the dark"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "country road."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> When they"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "take me home,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> I'm trying to build tension and you're"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "making it really hard, pal."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> I know. I'm sorry, but it's stuck in my"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "head now. You have to admit that song is"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "a bit of an earworm."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": ">> It is, but we have work to do. Can we"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "try to get back to the drama?"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> You're right. You're right. That's my"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "fault. Keep going."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> All right. Uh, where am I? You made me"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "lose my place."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": ">> Uh, they were flying down the dark"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "country road."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> Right. Okay. Uh, Roger it and tore away"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "down the dark country road."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": ">> What now?"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": ">> You were humming."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> Was I? Damn you, John Denver. Damn you"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "and your catchy music and affable"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "demeanor."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": ">> Well, they lost the creature and had a"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "second to gather their thoughts. Roger,"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Linda, and their friends decided to go"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "to the sheriff's department to warn the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "town. They didn't expect anyone to"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "believe them, but they felt they had to"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "try. Then, a few miles down the road,"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "they couldn't believe their eyes."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "Perched on a billboard was the creature."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "It was following them. When they drove"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "past it, the creature spread its wings"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "and launched straight up into the air."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "And no matter how fast they drove or"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "what turns they made, the creature"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "stayed with them. They hit a"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "straightaway and gun the engine. 70 mph,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "the creature could keep up. 80 mph and"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "it was still [music] with them."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Every so often it would swoop down"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "toward their car and let out a"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "terrifying screech."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "They had to go faster. When they hit 90,"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "they thought they lost it, but a few"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "minutes later they heard the screech. It"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "was flying about 50 ft behind them, but"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "gaining. They had to go faster."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Now pushing 100 miles an hour on a dark"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "road, they were worried about crashing"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "or flipping the car. But as they"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "approached the lights of the town, the"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "creature slowed its chase and"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "disappeared. When they arrived at the"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "sheriff's department, they were"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "surprised to hear that people were"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "seeing the creature all over the area."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "And this was only the beginning."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "The day after the flying creature chased"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "the Scarberries and the Mletes away from"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "the power plant, [music] Marcela Bennett"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "was visiting her brother in the same"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "area. Around 900 p.m., Marcela left her"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "brother's house with her 4-year-old"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "daughter. When she reached for the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "handle of the car door, she saw what"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "looked like legs. Then, she heard her"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "brother yelling for her to get back in"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "the house. As her eyes slowly moved up,"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "she saw a humanoid creature at least 7"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "ft tall with wings. As soon as Marcela"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "saw its red eyes, she was frozen. Her"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "brother kept yelling, but she couldn't"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "move. After a couple of seconds, she"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "snapped out of it, stumbled, dropped her"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "daughter, and fell. Her brother ran out,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "grabbed them both, and bolted for the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "door. The creature unfurled its wings,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "and pursued, but they were able to make"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "it inside. They locked the door. The"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "creature banged on the door a few times,"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "and even tried the doororknob. A few"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "seconds later, it was gone. Word quickly"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "got around, and the local papers picked"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "up the story. They called this tall"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "humanlike creature with wings and red"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "eyes the Moth Man. On November 20th, 15"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "people saw the Moth Man on four"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "different occasions. On November 21st,"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "another sighting. On the 25th, another."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "On the 26th, seven people saw the Moth"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Man on five different occasions. On"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "November 28th, Failort and her brother"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "drove out to the TNT area. They stopped"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "at the old power plant to see if they"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "could find the Moth [music] Man. And"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": ">> did they find it?"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> Well, it found them first."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Now Fay was face to face with the Moth"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Man a few feet from the car window."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> Careful what you wish for, huh?"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> Yep. She said it had glowing red eyes,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "nothing like she'd ever seen. She didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "see any wings, but it was running fast"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "enough to keep up with the car. They"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "screamed at her brother to drive faster,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "but no matter how fast they went, they"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "couldn't lose it. They whipped around a"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "turn, slammed on the brakes, and the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Moth Man jumped on the hood of their car"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "and stared at them. Fa and [music] her"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "brother stayed completely still,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "terrified to move. FA and her brother"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "looked for the Moth Man, but they didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "see it. But finally, they saw it perched"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "on the roof of an abandoned building"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "nearby. So Fay's brother slowly gets out"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "of the car."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> What is he nuts?"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": ">> And he's picking up chunks of coal. He"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "was picking that up and just throwing at"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "it and going shoo."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": ">> Yeah, he's nuts."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": ">> Then the moth man opened its wings and"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "flew off into the darkness. The"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "following week, three more separate"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "sightings. [music] The week after that,"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "the moth man is seen four times by 18"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "different people."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> I saw, you know, this big bird looking"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "thing go over top of my car."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> I could see it wasn't a man that it"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "looked more like a bird. Instead of"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "arms, they were like wings."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": ">> I had a huge wingspan. It was at least"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "10 ft."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> I was paralyzed. I just"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": ">> and I just thought, well, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "going to die. People described the moth"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "man the same way. Over 7 feet tall with"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "glowing red eyes, a grayish brown body,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "and huge wings. These descriptions"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "matched even before the news reported on"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "the story. Speculation went wild. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "had ever seen a creature like this"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "anywhere on Earth. That's when a new"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "theory was proposed that the moth man"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "was from somewhere else."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "John Keel was a prominent eupfologist"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "and paranormal researcher. He's most"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "wellknown for the movie The Moth Man"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Prophecies, which is based on his novel"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "of the same name. When the Moth Man"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "sightings were at their height, Keel"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "traveled to Point Pleasant to"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "investigate. He spent months"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "interviewing witnesses and local"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "reporters. He studied police reports and"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "legends and myths from the area. John Ke"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "was trying to unravel the mystery of the"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Moth Man, but he soon became a target."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "He started having headaches and episodes"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "of extreme paranoia. Cryptic messages"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "would appear on his answering machine,"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "sometimes without the phone ever"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "ringing. He was constantly followed by"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "mysterious men in dark suits."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> Dude, a minute in black."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> Exactly. [music] In fact, John Ke is the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "one who coined that term. He noticed his"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "mail was being opened and recealed. His"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "phone was tapped. Where some people"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "theorized that the Moth Man was an"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "extraterrestrial, John Ke thought the"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "creature could be what he called an"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "ultraterrestrial. This is an entity"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "that's from Earth but lives in a"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "different dimension, a dimension that we"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "can't perceive and that exists outside"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "of time. These entities can materialize"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "and dematerialize any place and anytime"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "they want. They do this by adjusting"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "their energy to match different"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "wavelengths on the electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "spectrum. Keel said these beings go by"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "different names in different cultures."}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "Some call them [music] spirits or"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "fairies or angels. In the Middle East,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "they're called jin. You may have even"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "seen one yourself because they're also"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "called the dark watchers, the hatman,"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "shadow people."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Crab kit."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Crab kit. It's half crab and a half cat."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "I know what it is, but what does it have"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": ">> By simply whispering its name, it could"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "be summoned from its evil dimension"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "where fish are used for food."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": ">> Fish are food in this dimension."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> So, take heed, guppies, and fear the"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "crab cat."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": ">> Okay, you"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": ">> fear the crab kit."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> The area around Point Pleasant is a hot"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "spot for paranormal phenomena like the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Moth Man and UFOs. John Ke said there"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "are a few locations like this on the"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "planet. He called them window areas. In"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "these window areas, human consciousness"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "itself can summon these beings or even"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "conjure a UFO. Some UFOs are directly"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "related to the human consciousness,"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "[music] just as ghostly apparitions are"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "often the product of the recipient's"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "mind. There are deeply rooted psychic"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "and psychological factors in the UFO"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "phenomena, and the sudden appearance of"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "a light in the sky triggers and releases"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "the human energy that stimulated"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "seemingly supernatural events. This"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "cosmological system of control has been"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "in effect since the dawn of humanity."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": ">> So, humans are the ones creating all the"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "weird stuff."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": ">> Yep. And John Ke didn't just invent that"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "theory out of the blue. The way to"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "conjure a jin is to think about one."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "Same with shadow people. There are many"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "theories and philosophies that say"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "everything in the universe, including"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "human consciousness, is energy. A few"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "weeks ago, we did an episode on the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "gateway process, [music] which is a"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "technique to tap into this energy. And"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "once you're tapped in, you can conjure"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "anything you want simply by thinking"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "about it. Now, this may sound like hocus"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "pocus, but the CIA and the American"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "military spent years researching this."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> Well, that explains the men in black."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": ">> It could. Men in dark suits were"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "visiting local residents, asking them to"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "describe the things they saw. John Keel"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "also thought the Moth Man and beings"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "like it were omens of impending doom."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "This is why he called his book the Mo"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Man Prophecies. These entities would"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "often show up before a terrible event,"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "but he didn't know if they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "warn people, were simply observers, or"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "were actually the ones causing the"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "event. The Silver Bridge collapse was"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "one of the worst disasters the town ever"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "endured. Every person in Point Pleasant"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "was affected. Everyone had a friend on"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the bridge, a loved one, a co-orker, a"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "child. It wasn't until after the bridge"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "collapsed that people started connecting"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "the event to the Moth Man. In the days"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "and weeks leading up to the disaster,"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "Moth Man sightings were becoming more"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "and more frequent. [music] And as soon"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "as the bridge came down and dragged 46"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "people to icy graves, sightings of the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "moth man stopped. Did the Moth Man"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "accomplish what it set out to do? Nobody"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "really knows why the creature arrived or"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "why it left. The fact that it was"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "finally gone was good news for the"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "people of Point Pleasant, but it was bad"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "news for the people of Bingmpington, New"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "York, because 8 years later, the Moth"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Man was back."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "After the collapse of the Silver Bridge"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "in 1967, the people in Point Pleasant"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "stopped seeing the Moth Man. UFO"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "encounters, reports [music] of ghosts,"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "the men in black, all these suddenly"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "stopped. Whatever the Moth Man was doing"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "in West Virginia, it must have [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "served its purpose. But that wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the last we hear of the Moth Man. Not"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "even close. In 1975, in Bingmpington,"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "New York, a group of children reported"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "seeing a large creature they described"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "as a man with bat wings and glowing red"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "eyes. [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "3 years later, a group of miners in"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "Fryberg, Germany, came face tof face"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "[music] with a creature with glowing red"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "eyes. At first, they thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "man in a trench coat, but then it"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "unfurled large black wings. The men"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "stared in stunned silence until the"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "creature let out a blood curdling"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "screech that sent the miners running."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "About an hour later, the men felt the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "earth shake. Then, a plume of dust shot"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "from the mine as it collapsed. If the"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "men had gone to their stations as usual,"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "most of [music] them would have been"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "killed. The creature they called the"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "Fryberg Shrier actually saved their"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "lives. Throughout 1985, workers at the"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "nuclear power plant in Chernobyl claimed"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "to see a huge black bird-like creature"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "flying around the plant. It had the body"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "of a man and red eyes. They called it"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "the Blackbird of Chernobyl. [music]"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "People in the area started receiving"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "strange phone calls with nothing on the"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "line but static. Even more people had"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "nightmares, [music] and these incidents"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "got worse and worse until the Chernobyl"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "explosion in April 1986. There was a"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Moth Man seen and photographed near the"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "[music] Twin Towers in 2001 before the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "9/11 attack. In August 2007, after a"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "month of Moth Man sightings, [music]"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "the I35 bridge collapsed during rush"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "hour. A large redeyed creature"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "terrorized the people of Luna, Mexico in"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "2009. Shortly after, there was a swine"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "flu outbreak. [music] In 2011, people"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "started seeing a giant flying humanoid"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "creature all over the Chicago area."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "[music] Like all over. For example, what"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "the heck is this? [screaming]"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Since 2011, there have been hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Moth Man sightings around the airport,"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "including photos and some crazy video."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": ">> What the hell is that? It looks like"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "Kesi is coming to Burn King's Landing."}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": ">> Whatever it is, the way it's flying,"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "it's big. Skeptics say that's a bird,"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "but it doesn't look like a bird to me."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "The website phantoms monsters.com has"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "been tracking all the sightings in the"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "area. They even have an interactive map,"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "and I'll link it below if you want to"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "check it out. They've been compiling"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "emails, phone calls, and interviews from"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "eyewitnesses working at the airport."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": ">> I had just left work at the USPS sorting"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "facility at O'Hare International"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "Airport. I was walking up to my car when"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "I saw something standing at the far end"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "of the parking lot where I usually park."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "At first, I thought it was a very tall"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "person with a long coat. As I got closer"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "to my car, I unlocked my car, which"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "caused my headlights to come on. My"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "headlights hit the person standing about"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "20 to 25 ft from my car, causing it to"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "turn and look right at me. I saw that"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "this was not some person, but some"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "redeyed being and what appeared to be a"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "coat were actually wings, which had"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "spread out as it turned to look at me."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "This thing then started making some kind"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "of chirping sound, almost a half chirp"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "and half click, like someone was"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "clicking their tongue, but much faster."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "It then made some type of screeching"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "sound and took off running toward me. It"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "got to within 10 ft of me and took off"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "into the air and flew above me. I got"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "home and told my husband who also works"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "at the same facility and he was the one"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "who told me about the sightings of this"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "thing. I was scared shitless and hope I"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "never see this thing again."}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": ">> There are all kinds of stories like this"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "by reliable witnesses including airport"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "security officers who have a lot to lose"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "by sounding crazy."}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": ">> My name is and I'm a security guard at"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "O'Hare. I'm reluctantly writing to you"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "to report something that I saw a week"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "ago. On the night of Tuesday, December"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "3rd, 2019, I was heading toward one of"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "the airport cargo hubs. I was"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "approaching the creek headed toward"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Montrose Avenue when I saw this large"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "person standing down in the creek bed. I"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "stopped, thinking it was maybe a trucker"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "who decided to wander down there to"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "relieve himself. I put on my lights and"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "stopped my vehicle and was preparing to"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "get out when this man turned toward me"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "and I saw two very bright red eyes. This"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "thing appeared to be looking straight at"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "me and then it turned away and walked"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "away. As it did, it unfurled a set of"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "wings. It took off into the air and was"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "gone into the darkness. I was left there"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "wondering what in the hell had just"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "happened and what I had just seen. I'm"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "going to be blunt here. I don't believe"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "in hobgoblins and little green men. And"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "I'm sure that there must be a rational"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "explanation for this. I have worked too"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "hard to get where I am and to have all"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "that trash by saying that I saw a"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "redeyed flying man. Yet that is what I"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "saw. I'm torn between reporting this and"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "keeping my mouth shut to protect my"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "retirement. If I do report this, I want"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "everything to be done to protect my"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "identity."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": ">> Pilots even saw it."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": ">> My name is Bruce and I'm a pilot for and"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "I've been with since 2008. The incident"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "I'm about to tell you happened on"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Thursday, August 8th, 2019 at O'Hare"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "International Airport at approximately"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "1,800. I'd flown into O'Hare the"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "previous day and had stayed at a hotel"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "for the night. I was due to fly out at"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "2000 to the UK. I was taking the airport"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "shuttle toward the terminal. As I looked"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "out the window, I saw a large human with"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "enormous wings and glowing red eyes"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "first upon a rail and looking straight"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "at me. I was startled and I'll admit it"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "very frightened. It did not move or"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "attempt to hide itself as we approached,"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "knowing that it could be clearly seen."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "It just stayed put and watched as we"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "passed. When we passed, I tempted to"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "look back and see if we still perched"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "there. I saw nothing and can only assume"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "that it must have flown off when we"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "passed."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:35", "text": ">> It's even been seen by air traffic"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "control."}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": ">> I've worked at O'Hare for the last 7"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "years as a member of the air traffic"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "control team. I was working the late"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "evening at Tron and have just walked"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "away for one of our mandatory breaks. I"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "was walking toward one of the terminal"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "buildings when I noticed some movement"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "out of the corner of my eye. I turned in"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "the direction of the movement and"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "noticed a large black shape coming to a"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "rest on the ground near a light pole."}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "This thing was at least 6 to 7 ft tall"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "and jet black and it looked like a very"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "big bat, but was also very humanlike in"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "appearance. It sported a large set of"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "black wings that also looked like the"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "wings of a bat. They were open to their"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "full length and must have did at least"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "12 ft. It kept its head down looking at"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "the ground until an approaching vehicle"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "startled it. That is where I saw that"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "its head was short and squat but had a"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "pair of piercing red eyes. It looked in"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "the direction of the approaching vehicle"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "and then began to flap its wings and"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "took to the air. It disappeared above"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "the building in the span of 1 to two"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "seconds and was gone out of sight. I"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "personally know of three other"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "controllers who have had sightings of"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "this thing and just as many pilots who"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "have either reported sightings in and"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "around the airport."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": ">> And the Chicago Moth Man sightings are"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "still coming in. As recently as a few"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "weeks ago, multiple witnesses reported a"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "redeyed humanoid with wings. It was"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "pursed on top of a building staring at"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "them. When it spread its wings, its"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "wingspan was, according to the"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "witnesses, wider than a car. It made a"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "chirping sound, then flew over them and"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "up and out of sight. Now, the Chicago"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "Moth Man has been seen for at least 12"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "years, so luckily it doesn't seem to be"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "predicting doom for the city."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": ">> Oh, I take it you haven't been to"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "Chicago recently."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:20", "text": ">> The Moth Man is one of the most seen,"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "most widely reported cryptids in the"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "world. It's been seen in every country"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "and often by reliable witnesses. So,"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "what is the Moth Man? [music] Is it"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "really a flying humanoid with glowing"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "red eyes and giant wings? Well, there"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "are a few theories. One is it's an"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "alien."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:36", "text": ">> I like it."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": ">> In the Point Pleasant area, Moth Man"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "sightings coincided with UFO reports."}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "So, naturally, people connected them."}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "That would also explain why the Men in"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "Black showed up. Some locals thought the"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "Moth Man was an angel."}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:46", "text": ">> I like it."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:48", "text": ">> Trying to warn people about the bridge"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "collapse. An interesting theory is that"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "the Moth Man is a new species, one that"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "mutated from the toxic waste and"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "chemicals dumped in the TNT area."}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": ">> I love it. To skeptics, this may sound"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "unlikely, but scientists recently"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "discovered that wild dogs in the"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "Chernobyl area are mutating and evolving"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "faster than other dogs."}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": ">> You know what they say, ex dogs are an"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "ex-man's best friend."}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:11", "text": ">> Well, I don't know if any dogs have been"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "discovered with superpowers, but"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "exposure to radiation has made their DNA"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "different and [music] distinct from"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "regular dogs. Now, in an area that's"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "supposed to be highly toxic, these ex"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "dogs are flourishing. But there are a"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "few non-s supernatural explanations."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "[music] In the Point Pleasant area,"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "specifically during the first Moth Man"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "sightings, Sanhill cranes were"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "migrating. Sanhill cranes are big"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "[music] birds. They can grow to almost"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "5t tall, and their wingspans can easily"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "reach 6 ft or more. They also have red"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "markings on their heads, which could"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "explain [music] why people see what they"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "think are red eyes. But even the biggest"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "crane is not big enough to fit the"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "description of the witnesses."}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": ">> Unless it's a mutant expert,"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:50", "text": ">> right? Unless it's that. [music] Another"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "common explanation is that what people"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "thought was the moth man was an"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "unusually large barn owl. Barn owls have"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "large eyes and in the dark their eyes"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "shine red. This is from a layer of eye"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "tissue that reflects light around the"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "retina multiple times allowing them to"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "see extremely well in the dark. It's"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "called topedum lucidum. In fact, almost"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "all nocturnal creatures emit an eye"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "shine. Headlights on dark roads in the"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "woods would reveal all kinds of animals"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "with eye shine, from something as large"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "as a bear all the way down to a spider."}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "Now, barn owls don't get anywhere close"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "to large enough to fit the description,"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "but there have been studies that show"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "when humans are in motion, it's"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "difficult for us to determine the size"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "of an object. The faster we're moving,"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "the harder it is. Zooming along at 70"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "mph past a 5ft tall bird with a 10ft"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "wingspan, that bird might look huge. And"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "in forensic psychology, there's"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "something called the weapon focus"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "effect. It says that when people are"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "under [music] stress, specifically fear,"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "their memories are unreliable. For"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "example, when someone is a victim of"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "armed robbery, they tend to focus on the"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "weapon and not other details of the"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "scene."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": ">> Well, that would explain all the"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "sightings in Chicago."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": ">> Marcel found that when people view a"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "disturbing image, they were highly"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "confident in their memory of that image,"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "even if their memory was wrong."}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": ">> We know that human memory is already"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "unreliable. If we recall an event a"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "certain way, our brains will eventually"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "create the memories to fit, even if our"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "recollection is completely wrong. So,"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "when four people start telling each"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "other they saw a 7-ft tall moth man, it"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "won't take long for the memories to be"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "created. When these false memories are"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "shared by multiple people, it's called a"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "transactive memory. And then you have"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "mass hallucination and mass hysteria"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "where people think they're seeing a"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "threat, but they only see it because"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "they were already afraid of it. So, we"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "have all these Moth Man sightings"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "happening around Point Pleasant, and"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "then John Ke comes along and writes a"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "book about it. The book becomes a"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "runaway hit. The information in the book"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "then adds to the group's memory. The"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "problem with that is John Ke's book was"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "a fiction novel. The connection of the"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "Moth Man to the Silver Bridge. Ke made"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "that up because it makes the story more"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "interesting. Same with the weird phone"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "calls and electronic disturbances."}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "[music] Ke invented those, too. If you"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "go back and read eyewitness testimony,"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "you'll see that nobody reported [music]"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "weird phone calls until after the book"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "came out. John Ke also made up the part"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "about the Men in Black. The witnesses"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "who say they saw Men in Black, they"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "didn't mention it before the book's"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "release. John Keiel's notes and letters"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "have been thoroughly analyzed. The"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "information in the Moth Man prophecies"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "[music] is vastly different than the"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "notes he took during his investigation."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "Now, the legend says that over 100"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "people saw the Moth Man in Point"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "Pleasant, but the actual number of"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "incidents is just six or seven. Now,"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "that's still something, but clearly lots"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "of people wanted to jump on the"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "attention bandwagon. If you read the"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "later witness reports, some of them are"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "ripped right out of scary children's"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "stories and other urban legends. Now,"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "why did the Moth Man sighting stop right"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "after the collapse of the Silver Bridge?"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "Because the people in Point Pleasant now"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "had a real tragedy to deal with. [music]"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "It snapped them out of their group"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "memory and gave them something very real"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "to focus on. But even with all these"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "attempts to explain the Moth Man,"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "[music] skeptics still come up short."}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "The sightings in Chicago are real. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "not all of them, but some of them are."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "And back in Point Pleasant, before the"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "newspaper reported anything about the"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "Moth Man, eyewitnesses who didn't know"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "each other described the creature the"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "same way. Now, if you follow this"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "channel, you know I don't like doing"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "stories about cryptids. This is because"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "there's rarely compelling evidence and"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "there are never any good pictures, but"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "in the process of researching the Moth"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "Man, I might have come around, if just a"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "little. I don't know if the Moth Man"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "exists, but people are seeing something."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "So, if you're ever driving at night"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "through the rolling hills of West"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "Virginia or stumbling to the car rental"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "after a red eye to O'Hare, pay close"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "attention. Listen for an odd clicking or"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "chirping sound coming from the shadows."}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "Look for two glowing red eyes watching"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "you from the dark. But don't be afraid."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "The Moth Man has never heard anyone, but"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "if I were you, I'd stay away from"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "bridges for a while, just in case."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": ">> 315"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "0. Now, I don't think the Moth Man is"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "really in Pleasantville, but those"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "sightings in Chicago were weird. I"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "couldn't debunk quite a few of those."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "Next is [music] My notes are down here."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "And hang on a second. It's I didn't want"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "to do this."}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "There they are. Next up, oh, a mini"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "crypted compilation. We've got the"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Lochess Monster, Chupacabra, and"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "everyone's favorite, Bigfoot."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "In 1925, John Burns was a school teacher"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "at the Chileus Indian Reservation deep"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "in the coast mountains of British"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "Columbia. His students told him stories"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "about a strange giant lurking in the"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "forest. It was a tale told by the local"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "tribe for generations. Burns became"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "curious. Were these stories true? The"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "Indians insisted it was just a myth. But"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "one night, an elder admitted they"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "weren't exactly truthful with him,"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "fearing the white man would mock their"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "beliefs. But over time, Burns earned"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "their trust. The elders told him the"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "story of the giant was no myth."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "Many of the Indians had seen this"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "creature with their own eyes, and not"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "from a distance. It had chased them."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "Burns was shown the house this mountain"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "giant destroyed with its bare hands as"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "the family ran in for safety. They had a"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "name for the giant. It was hard to"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "pronounce. In the native Salish"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "language, it was spelled s e s q t and"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "it meant wild man. Mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "anglicized the pronunciation and called"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "it Sasquatch and a legend was born."}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "In June of 2020, a husband and wife were"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "on a long-distance hike in the"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "wilderness of Trinity County in"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "California."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "It was a clear day just after 10:00 a.m."}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "when they approached a creek. Then they"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "heard an unfamiliar, high-pitched animal"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "call. It could have been a bird."}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": ">> That's no bird. Then they saw it."}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "An animal crouching down, drinking from"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "the creek. They were about 20 ft away."}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "Then it sensed their presence and looked"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "up. Their eyes met. Its eyes were"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "humanlike."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": ">> Humans have very creepy eyes."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:23", "text": ">> No, we don't."}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": ">> Well, you got THE COLORED BALL THAT JUST"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "floats around in the white goo. I don't"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "know how you could stand it. Those"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "things are gross."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": ">> You look in a mirror lately?"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> What? Everybody tells me I got gorgeous"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "papers. I take after my mutter."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:38", "text": ">> Now that you brought the exciting part"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "of the story to a screeching halt, do"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "you mind if I get back to it?"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> Go ahead, gross eye."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:44", "text": ">> All right, I lost my place."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:46", "text": ">> Ah, you were talking about how the lady"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "was freaked out at the gross balls and"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "the white goo in that thing's head."}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": ">> Its eyes."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": ">> What' I say?"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": ">> The creature jumped."}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "Then it ran up a steep hill, first on"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "all fours. Then when it reached the"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "opposite bank, it stood on two legs and"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "ran with long strides up the mountain."}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "They knew it wasn't any of the common"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "animals seen in the area."}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:13", "text": ">> Nope, that was a Bigfoot."}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": ">> It was. They were sure of it."}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "By 2020, this animal, disavowed by"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "mainstream science, was wildly famous,"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "and people saw them all the time. Over"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "the years, investigators have logged and"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "followed up on over 3,000 Bigfoot"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "encounters, including over a 100 tracks,"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "encased in plaster, and archived. In"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "fact, it all started with a footprint."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "In August of 1958, Jerry crew worked"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "construction near Buff Creek, deep in"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "the woods of Northern California. About"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "a/4 mile beyond camp, he saw animal"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "tracks at the end of the road."}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "When he climbed in his tractor and saw"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "the tracks from above, he realized they"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "weren't from an ordinary animal."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "\"These were humanlike feet, and they"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "were huge, 16 in long, which meant an"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "animal at least 8 ft tall,\" Crew told"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "his boss. And eventually, over 20 men"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "from the job site reported seeing huge"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "footprints by the Mad River nearby. crew"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "realized the prints he found needed to"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "be saved for investigation. So he"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "encased them in plaster and they"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "informed the local newspaper what they"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "found and they printed the story."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Suddenly this local incident became a"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "national sensation. Reporters from all"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "the wire services arrived."}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "Representatives from the New York Times,"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "LA Times, San Francisco papers,"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "everywhere. Bigfoot had become a"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "celebrity. Now, of course, plaster feet"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "didn't convince everyone it was real."}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "People wanted hard evidence. They wanted"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "a photograph. A few years later, they"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "got much more than that."}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "Roger Patterson was among the many"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "Americans obsessed with Bigfoot in the"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "1960s, but he took his passion further"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "than most. He lived in Yakama,"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "Washington, right where these creatures"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "were most often seen. [music] And he was"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "determined to prove they existed. So, he"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "got a camera. He hunted for tracks. He"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "interviewed witnesses. 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Both Patterson and Gimlin"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "were armed with rifles and cameras. A"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "pile of fallen trees blocked their trip"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "in the canyon, so they stopped to find a"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "way around. And that's when they saw it."}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "About 80 ft away, Bigfoot was crouched"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "by a creek. It was massive. It sensed"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "they were watching it. Then it stood up"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "and just stared at them."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:07", "text": ">> Oh, with the creepy human eyes."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:10", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "Then Patterson's horse started bucking."}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "He managed to pull his camera out of the"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "saddle bag before his horse ran off in"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "fear. Then Gimlin's horse got agitated."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "He hopped off and his horse bolted, too."}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "Things were getting chaotic. The Bigfoot"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "had seen enough and started heading for"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "the dense forest. Patterson was running"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "out of time."}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "He ran toward it with the camera"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "filming, trying to keep the creature in"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "the shot. Then his foot caught a branch"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "and he tripped and fell."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "The Bigfoot turned to stare at him. It"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "looked 7t tall and it looked female. It"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "seemed to have breasts. They nicknamed"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "her Patty. And this last look back"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "midstride has become iconic. It's the"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "image we all think about when we think"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "of Bigfoot."}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "They followed the tracks for 600 yd into"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "the canyon and saw the prince go uphill."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "They did not pursue. If a female was"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "this big, they didn't want to risk"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "running into a male,"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "but they did take casts of the"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "footprints. Based on the depth and size,"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "scientists estimated the creature"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "weighed 600 lb. But even better, they"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "had film footage. And to this day, the"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "footage has not been debunked. Experts"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "have analyzed the footage over and over,"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "and the details remain compelling. This"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "just doesn't seem like a guy in a"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "costume. The creature in the film has"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "contracting calf muscles. Its arms are"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "longer than an average human, and its"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "legs are shorter, consistent with an"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "ape. It had a peak on the back of its"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "head like the sagittal crest of a"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "gorilla. And there's more. When it"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "walks, it flexes its midfoot like an"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "ape."}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "The fur on its back below its head is"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "darker and standing up just like it"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "would on a gorilla who's agitated or"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "afraid. If this was a prank, those are a"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "lot of details to get right. So, why"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "don't we just say it's an ape? Because"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "apes don't walk upright, not like"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "humans, and Bigfoot clearly does."}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "Not to mention, there haven't been apes"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "or primates in the wild of North America"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "for 26 [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "million years. But here it was, a bright"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "walking Bigfoot in the wild. To this"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "day, Patterson's film is the most"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "important piece of evidence of the"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "creature's existence. [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "So, what is this halfh human, half"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "animal creature? Some speculate it's"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "from a different dimension or some kind"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "of shape shifter. Some correlate Bigfoot"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "sightings to UFO landings, but we don't"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "need to speculate. We know a lot about"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "Bigfoot's behavior because people are"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "still seeing them."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "Every witness account of Bigfoot, and"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "again, there have been over 3,000 logged"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "by investigators, describes a creature"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "between 6 and 8 ft tall. All the"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "sightings report similar behavior."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "They're curious, but often watch us from"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "afar, like the Sasquatch seen in 2013 by"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "a hunter in the Cispus River area of the"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "Cascade Mountains. The witness used his"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "game call, which let out a squeal like a"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "rabbit. And 60 ft away behind a tree, he"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "saw a Sasquatch take notice. And it"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "watched for nearly a minute before"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "walking away."}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "Bigfoot has very long strides and can"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "cover distances impossible for humans."}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "As witnessed by a father and son fishing"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "in Sackmania County, Washington in 2002,"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "they saw a Sasquatch from a 100 yards"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "away. It was startled by their truck's"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "engine, and they watched it move in 6-ft"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "strides straight up a hill and disappear"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "up a mountain. People consistently"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "describe its eyes as very close to"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "humans."}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "Like the former US Army Infantry"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "Sergeant camping in the Mount Adams"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "Wilderness in July 1991,"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "he was walking up to a river and froze"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "when he saw it across the bank 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "away. He described it in all the"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "familiar ways, between 6 and 8t tall"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "with broad shoulders and long arms. And"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "like many who've been that close, he"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "[music] added that the Sasquatch had"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "humanlike eyes. Yeah. And there's the"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "scream."}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "A hunter heard it on November 16th, 2014"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "in the woods of Windlock, Washington. He"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "described it as yelling mixed with a"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "growl."}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "He watched deer run away from the sound"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "and said the scream was something I"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "never want to hear again."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "Campers in Humble County in 2007"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "reported prolonged screams from Bigfoot"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "every morning for 2 days. It sounded"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "like a wild animal but with eerie"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "annunciation almost like a language."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "Now, skeptics say after the 1967 film"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "became famous, all the other accounts"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "are just copies. Before the Patterson"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "film, nobody talked about Bigfoot. So,"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "researchers scoured old newspapers"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "looking for reports that might match"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "modern Bigfoot, and they found way more"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "than they expected."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "Isolated reports of mountain giants"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "matching Bigfoot went back decades,"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "maybe centuries. The first published"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "report was from 1846."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "A 22-in long footprint was found in"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "eastern Arkansas, and there have been"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "actual sightings every year since."}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "Clearly, Bigfoot has been running into"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "humans for a long, long time. But"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "despite all these examples, mainstream"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "science refuses to [music] acknowledge"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "Bigfoot exists. The species is called"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "Gigantoopythecus Americanis, [music]"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "but officially that's a species that"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "doesn't exist. So in 1985, zoologologist"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "J Wall coined a term. [music] He coined"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "it for any animal that remains"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "unexplained by science. He called them"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "cryptids."}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "This branch of study is called"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "cryptozoolology. Taken from the Greek"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "word crypto meaning hidden. Now why the"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "need to create a name for a whole"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "category of mysterious unexplained"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "creatures? Well, because Bigfoot is far"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "from the only one."}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "In 1933, there was a major change around"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "Scotland's biggest freshwater lake. They"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "built a road. For the first time ever, a"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "large number of people were passing"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "through. People built lake houses. Some"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "would go on hikes and have picnics"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "around the shore. Tourists would visit"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "Urkart Castle on the north end. And"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "that's when it started. People started"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "reporting something in the water. One"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "group of witnesses was staying at a"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "house overlooking the northeast end of"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "the lake. A woman named Miss Gracie saw"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "it first. It was about 1,200 yd away,"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "swimming toward Fort Augustus on the"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "south end of the Long Lake, and it was"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "moving fast. The group figured it was"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "going about 15 m an hour. They watched"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "it for a full 4 minutes as it swam away."}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "Another witness said it looked like a"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "huge caterpillar. It moved with an up"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "and down motion. At first, people"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "thought it was a huge eel, but eels move"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "side to side, not up and down. This"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "creature propelled itself by bending its"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "long body in a series of humps with"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "water spaced in [music] between each"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "one. The group counted seven humps"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "visible several feet above the water."}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "This thing was long. Finally, it"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "submerged around 2,000 yd away. Reports"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "like this kept coming into the local"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "paper. Nearly all mentioned the dark"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "humps. Some even saw its head and neck."}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "Ba Russell didn't buy into the rumors"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "there was some creature out there. He"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "figured it was probably a seal or a boat"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "distorted by the sun on the waves. Then"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "he paid a visit to the lake. He was"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "walking on the rocks near Fort Augustus."}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "[music] He was 100 ft above the lake"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "with a clear view and he saw a snake-"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "like head not much bigger than its long"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "neck cutting through the water. It was"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "800 yd out swimming slowly by. It had"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "dark skin with a rough texture. The"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "creature swam in a straight line, then"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "disappeared under the water. This was no"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "seal. He told the newspaper he had never"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "expected something as remarkable as what"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "he witnessed that day. He had just seen"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "the Loch Ness monster."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "You might think finding a giant sea"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "creature in a lake would be easy, but"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "Loch Ness is not your typical lake. It's"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "huge."}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "It's the largest freshwater lake in the"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "British Isles. It stretches 24 m long"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "and in some places it's 2 mi wide and"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "it's deep between 700 and 900 ft before"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "you hit the bottom."}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "Plenty of room for a creature whose"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "natural habitat is in deep water"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "and cut into the underwater cliffs are"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "giant caves big enough for a whale or"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "something even bigger."}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:29", "text": ">> Okay, enough with that."}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": ">> Sorry. Sorry. I was an extra on your so"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "this story takes me back."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": ">> Oh yeah. It's how I got my sag card. Uh"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "you know all the fish in the underwater"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "scenes. Yeah, underwater scenes is where"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "you typically see fish."}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> Yeah, one of those was me."}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:44", "text": ">> With all those fish, how are we supposed"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "to know which one is you?"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:49", "text": ">> Because only two fish in that movie had"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "teeth. Me and the big guy."}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": ">> You know the shark was fake."}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. He was a real Hollywood phony."}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": ">> No, I Can I get back to this?"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:00", "text": ">> Oh, excuse me. I thought the people"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "would like a little flavor for a water"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "story. This one's a pretty try."}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": ">> During the 1930s and for decades after,"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "this creature would appear on the"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "surface, and people would line up around"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "the lake armed with telescopes and"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "binoculars, all hoping to get a glimpse"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "of the sea monster they called Nessie."}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "The official Loch Ness sightings"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "register grew to over,00 sightings. The"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "most famous is the iconic image of the"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "serpent head and long neck rising up"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "from the water. This is called the"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "surgeon's photo after the doctor who"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "took it in 1934."}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "But the thousands of eyewitness accounts"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "and photos were not enough for"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "mainstream scientists to take this giant"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "marine animal seriously. All except for"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "Tim Dinsdale would soon become the most"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "important figure in the Nessie saga. He"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "was a British biologist and he was"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "obsessed with the Loch Ness monster. He"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "interviewed over a 100 witnesses. He was"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "sure there was a large unknown animal in"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "that lake. So in April of 1960, he went"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "to see for himself. Day after day, he"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "scanned the lake. Nessie was a no-show."}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "On the fifth day, something on the lake"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "caught his eye. Then it started to move."}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "Dinsdale grabbed his 16 mm camera with"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "telephoto lens and started filming. And"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "what he saw was astounding. This thing"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "made a wide V-shaped wake, much"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "different than a boat, and he'd seen"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "plenty of those on the lake to know the"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "difference. And there was no sign of a"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "propeller wash you'd expect from an"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "engine. Humps were coming out as it"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "moved high above the water. He noticed a"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "swirling in the water on each side, as"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "if it was paddling below the surface. He"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "estimated it was going at least 10 m an"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "hour. And as it reached the far shore"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "and turned west, the creature did"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "something no boat could do. It"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "submerged."}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "Tim moved closer, hoping that the"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "monster would reappear, but it never"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "did. But he did have 60 seconds of film"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "showing the elusive Loch Ness monster."}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "And the film was a sensation. It was"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "shown on British television and"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "captivated the nation. British"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "intelligence examined the film. It was"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "authentic [music] and it showed"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "something with humps 3 ft above the"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "water. The film led to the launching of"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "the Loch Ness Investigation Bureau."}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "People came from all over the world"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "hoping for a glimpse of Nessie."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "Yet [music] mainstream science remained"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "skeptical. Photos and films could be"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "faked. They wanted something more"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "definitive. The only way to get more"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "evidence was to go down below."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "The Academy of Applied Science came up"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "with a high-tech plan to prove there was"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "a giant animal living in the caves at"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "the bottom of Loch Ness. They started"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "with a sonar array dropped from a single"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "boat to a depth of about 200 ft. And on"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "this first mission, they had several"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "contacts in midwater with something too"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "large to be classified as a fish. They"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "knew they were on to something. In the"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "next mission, they planted a sonar unit"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "behind an underwater camera. It had a"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "powerful flash unit at the bottom of the"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "lake, 120 ft deep. The sonar would run"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "non-stop. The camera took a flash photo"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "every 55 seconds. And on August 8th, the"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "camera caught something. Two enormous"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "creatures swimming by, but the image was"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "dark. The waters of Loch Ness are murky."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "It was impossible to make out any"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "detail. So, they sent the photos to NASA"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "and some of the most advanced computers"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "in the world were put to work on the"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "images."}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:44", "text": ">> Hold on, hold on."}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:47", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:49", "text": ">> Nobody has faked more images than NASA."}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "Well, why send it to NASA?"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": ">> NASA had the right equipment."}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": ">> Yeah, the right equipment to fake stuff."}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": ">> I can't argue with that."}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": ">> NASA fake images. Link below."}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": ">> NASA was able to isolate the fog and"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "muddiness of the water. Then the detail"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "was revealed and the results were"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "mind-boggling. Scientists were looking"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "at flippers over 6 ft long. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "animal this was, it was huge."}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "Encouraged, they launched another"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "expedition. This time, the sonar didn't"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "detect anything, [music]"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "but the camera caught a blurry image"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "that looked pretty compelling."}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "It seemed like a large body of a"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "creature, and this time there seemed to"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "be a small head perched at the end of a"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "long neck. They checked the next picture"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "in the sequence. The same giant object,"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "but this time the head had more"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "definition. One scientist said it looked"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "like a crocodile. One more picture"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "caught the creature passing by, and this"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "was the stunner."}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "a detailed head with a pair of small"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "horns and what looked like [music] eyes."}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "It was dark and blurry, but it looked"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "like an animal's head. On October 9th,"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "1987, they launched the most extensive"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "search of Loch Ness ever taken. [music]"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "It was called Operation Deep Scan. For 2"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "days, scientists covered the body of the"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "lake with a flotilla of 24 boats."}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> Um, it's pronounced flotilla."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:20", "text": ">> No, it isn't."}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "They had enough boats to cover the"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "entire width of the lake. Each boat had"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "advanced sonar rays capable of finding"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "objects 1300 ft away as small as a foot"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "long with separation between objects as"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "small as an inch. If there was anything"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "down there, they would find it. The"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "operation attracted reporters and"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "television crews from around the world."}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "Everyone awaited the results, and they"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "were not disappointed. One of the boats"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "reported three strong contacts between"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "250 and 590 ft. Something was down"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "The reading suggested a creature larger"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "than a shark but smaller than a whale."}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "And the object was tracked for over 2"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "minutes. The next two days of the"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "operation brought no more readings."}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "Whatever was down there had retreated"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "into the caves. The sonar just wasn't"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "strong enough to reach the caves."}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": ">> Oh, what a waste of a good flotilla."}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "flotilla."}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": ">> Agree to disagree."}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:21", "text": ">> So, what was this creature? Based on the"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "descriptions, it matched nothing else on"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "Earth. At least nothing that lives here"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "now. But there was a time when animals"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "like this were thriving. They were"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "everywhere. They were in Loch Ness. The"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "time was called the Jurassic."}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "Until the 1800s, we figured all the"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "animals on Earth were well, all the"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "animals on Earth. We didn't realize"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "there were entire worlds of dinosaurs"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "walking the planet. Not until we found"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "the bones."}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "One of the first fossils discovered was"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "the plesiosaurus, named in 1821. This"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "creature was a marine reptile with a"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "long flat body, four flippers, and yes,"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "a long neck and serpent head. This"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "description matches the thousands of"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "sightings of the Loch Ness monster. Only"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "the plesiosaurus lived 200 million years"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "ago. Could any have survived the ice age"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "and made their way to the ocean up the"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "river Ness, which connects to the lake?"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "Now, mainstream science remains"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "skeptical, but is Nessie an actual"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "plesiosaurus?"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "We don't know. No bones have been found"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "in Loch Ness, at least not yet."}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "Yet, sightings of Nessie continue to"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "this day. There were 10 official"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "sightings of the Loch Ness monster in"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "2023 alone. On April 5th of 2023, a"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "woman was driving by the lake when she"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "saw a dark shape emerge from the"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "surface. She saw humps rise from the"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "water like the back of a whale. She"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "watched it move for about 30 seconds"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "before it submerged. And like so many"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "who witness the creature these days, she"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "took a picture."}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "You can see it on the official Loch Ness"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "sightings registry link below. They even"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "have live webcams at the lake. You can"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "check it out online. Maybe you'll catch"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "a glimpse of Nessie yourself. Now,"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "that's the thing that the Loch Ness"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "monster and Bigfoot have in common."}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "People want to see them. But there is"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "another kind of crypted that you never"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "ever want to see."}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "On the morning of March 11th, 1995, a"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "group of farmers arrived at work in"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "central Puerto Rico, and they found a"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "massacre."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "All the sheep on the farm were dead."}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "There were eight bodies, clearly"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "attacked by something in the night, but"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "it wasn't obvious what killed them."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "There were no signs of a struggle, no"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "wounds or bites you'd expect from a"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "typical predator. And there's something"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "off about their skin. It seemed"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "translucent and strangely loose and"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "wrinkled. [music] One of the farmers"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "figured it out. Each corpse had a wound"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "on its torso, two small incisions, like"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "from fangs, and every single sheep had"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "the blood drained from its body. Every"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "drop. The local police were notified,"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "and their first instinct was to play it"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "down. There had been livestock killings"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "over the years forever. One more wasn't"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "that alarming. But then there was"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "another and another. That first month,"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "more than 40 animals were slaughtered in"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "night attacks. A farmer lost five sheep"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "he'd raised since he was a kid."}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:38", "text": ">> Yeah, I see what you did there."}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:40", "text": ">> People boarded up their homes in panic."}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "Guards were hired to protect livestock"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "and escort children to school. These"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "weren't stories. Actual animals were"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "getting killed. They were under attack"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "by a creature they called the goat"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "sucker or elacra."}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": ">> Right. No one knew what this thing"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "looked like, but six months into the"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "attacks, someone actually saw one."}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "Maline Tolantino was a housewife in"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "Canavanas, just east of San Juan. She"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "lived in the heart of the Chupacabra's"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "attack zone."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": ">> Uh, let me guess. She was home making"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "fresh tortillas, right?"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:18", "text": ">> Look, the word is pronounced flotilla."}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "Can just let me."}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "She was sitting at her window in the"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "early afternoon when she saw the bizarre"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "creature moving down her street. It was"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "between 3 and 4t tall, walking on two"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "powerful legs with small, slender arms."}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "Its eyes were dark and they looked damp,"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "and they ran up to its temples and up"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "the side like alien eyes. She said its"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "feet were webbed and it had no nose,"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "just two breathing holes. And spikes of"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "feathers ran from the top of its back"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "down its spine. A neighborhood boy was"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "watching the whole thing and he chased"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "after it. And when he caught up to it in"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "the woods, the chupacabra opened its"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "mouth and threatened him with long"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "fangs. The boy froze and the chupacabra"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "escaped."}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> Chico,"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": ">> right? There were many, many other"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "witnesses, but since Tolantino had the"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "longest sighting, she worked with UFO"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "researcher Jorge Morton to develop a"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "sketch of the creature. It was published"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "in the San Juan newspaper. [music] The"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "image quickly spread around the world."}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "To this day, it's the iconic image of"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "the Puerto Rican chupacabra."}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": ">> In many occasions, these are punctual"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "wounds. In most occasions, we have"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "[music] found that they seem to go right"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "to the brain of the animals and kill the"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "animals. In other occasions, they go"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "right straight into the animals in"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "different areas as if looking for"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "certain organs."}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "By the end of 1995, the chupacabra"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "caused more than 1,000 animal deaths,"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "all resulting from blood loss. People"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "around the world were riveted by the"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "story of the Puerto Rican attacks,"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "[music] but they were relieved this was"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "happening on an isolated island nation."}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "Then somehow it got off the island."}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "In March 1996, police in Miami, Florida,"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "responded to reports of a violent"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "incident. They arrived at a family home"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "in the neighborhood of Sweetwater. They"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "had never seen such carnage. There were"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "69 animals scattered around the yard. A"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "mix of goats, chickens, geese, and"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "ducks, all with their blood drained."}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "Until that moment, the chupacabra had"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "not been seen outside Puerto Rico, where"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "it spent the last 6 months terrorizing"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "the island. Now, it was on the mainland."}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "In Mexico, sheep and goats were found"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "dead. The Associated Press reported dead"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "animals all had two tooth marks about a"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "third of an inch across their necks and"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "appeared to be drained of blood. Panic"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "was spreading. Search parties went out"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "every night, but they never found it."}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "They just kept finding dead animals"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "every day. And the chupacabra seemed to"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "be moving south."}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "In Brazil, nine pigs were found dead in"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "Sa Paulo. Again, the newspapers reported"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "carcasses drained of blood. Not far from"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "the pig massacre, a housekeeper on a"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "ranch heard loud noises outside the main"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "house. She went outside. The sounds were"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "coming from the corral. As she"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "approached the gate, she could hear the"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "sheep bleeding, but there was another"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "sound, a loud rumble of a growl she'd"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "never heard before."}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "When she unlocked the gate and entered"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "the pen, the 12 sheep were dead. But"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "whatever killed them was gone."}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "In Chile, a farmer heard dogs howling on"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "his ranch at night. The next day, he"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "found 35 sheep dead, again, drained of"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "blood with bite marks on their necks."}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "Footprints were discovered at the scene,"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "but the government said the tracks were"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "from dogs. But of course, dogs aren't"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "known for sucking blood."}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "But Chilean UFO researchers had a"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "different explanation. They'd been"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "keeping watch on the Chilean military"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "because the military was spending a"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "suspicious amount of time in the Adakama"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "Desert in northern Chile. There were"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "rumors of a secret facility out there"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "and the military was out there searching"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "for something."}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "During one search, they uncovered three"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "eggs with odd coloring. They did not"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "look like bird eggs. According to the"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "UFO researchers, the military was forced"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "to turn the eggs over to NASA because"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "these eggs were from a chupacabra."}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:31", "text": ">> NASA again?"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:31", "text": ">> Well, NASA was well aware of the"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "chupacabra."}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:34", "text": ">> Wait, what?"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": ">> Because they created it."}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:40", "text": ">> No, now it all makes sense."}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> The secret facility in Adakama was a top"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "secret lab where NASA was trying to"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "genetically modify animals that could"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "survive on Mars. Was the Chupacabra an"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "experiment gone wrong? Well, we've heard"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "the stories about Plum Island and the"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "Montalk Monster."}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:55", "text": ">> Link below."}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": ">> It seems like whenever the government"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "tinkers with nature, it doesn't go well"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "for the rest of us."}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": ">> In a function."}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:03", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "[music] Scientists have identified over"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "700 species of dinosaurs, and the number"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "grows every year. Now, how do they know"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "all these animals existed? through"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "fossil findings, bones, hard evidence."}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "That's what we need to prove if any of"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "these cryptids are real. So, what do we"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "have? Let's start with Bigfoot."}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": ">> Real?"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": ">> Well, there's no hard evidence of a"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "Bigfoot. When scientists have tested"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "hairs people claimed to have come from a"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "Bigfoot, they turned out to be from a"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "deer or other familiar animals every"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "time. There's nothing beyond witnesses"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "accounts and plaster feet and blurry"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "images to prove that Bigfoot exists. The"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "movie, Dia, the Bigfoot movie,"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": ">> the Patterson Gimlin film. This whole"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "story is a mess. First, for people who"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "say it's a bad fake, with all due"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "respect, they're wrong. If it's a fake,"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "it's a great one. The film is still"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "being debated. Patterson went to his"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "deathbed saying it was real. Gimlan also"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "said it was real, but admitted he might"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "have been hoaxed by Patterson. Also, we"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "don't have the original film. We have no"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "idea when it was developed, only"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "Patterson's word, [music] but we do know"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "when and where Patterson rented the"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "camera. Now, when people who knew"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "Patterson were interviewed, they didn't"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "have nice things to say about him. He"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "borrowed money and didn't pay it back."}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "He lied. He didn't pay his bills. He was"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "lazy. That kind of thing. So, the people"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "who knew him didn't trust him. Not a"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "good start to the [music] story."}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "Now, Patterson tells the story about"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "shooting the film, riding three miles"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "back to camp to get the plaster, then"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "back to the creek. Then, they set the"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "plaster, wait for it to dry, then back"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "up to camp. They loaded their horses in"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "the trailer, then drove 25 m through"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "dirt roads to get to Yaka around 4:00 in"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "the afternoon or 6:00, depending [music]"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "on when you asked. Either way, the"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "timeline is impossible. Remember, they"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "had to go find their horses and then go"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "three miles back to camp and then three"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "miles back to the creek and wait for the"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "plaster, then back to camp, then [music]"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "it it doesn't work. Now, when confronted"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "with the timeline issue, Patterson and"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "Gimlin changed their stories a few"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "times."}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:21", "text": ">> Oh, it's an exciting day. They got some"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "times wrong. Who cares? The Bigfoot"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "movie is real. But just 10 days after"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "the sighting, Patterson with an investor"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "formed Bigfoot Enterprises and started"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "raking in dough. Lots of it. For years,"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "everyone involved sued everybody else"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "over the rights to the film. Like I"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "said, it was a mess."}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "In 2004, writer Greg Long unraveled"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:47", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": ">> Now, remember in 1966, Patterson wrote a"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "book about Bigfoot? Well, he had been"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "making trips to Hollywood to try and get"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "a movie or documentary made about his"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "book, and the studios didn't want it."}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "But American National Enterprises, or"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "A&E, liked the idea. They were a"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "wildlife film company. They gave"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "Patterson the money to rent the gear and"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "gave him a crash course on movie"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "pre-production. A&E also bought a"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "gorilla suit from Philip Morris, a"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "Hollywood costume designer. Morris"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "altered the suit to fit Patterson's"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "friend Bob Heronomous. The arms were"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "lengthened, which is why the Bigfoot's"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "hands kind of flop when they swing. He"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "wore a football helmet to make his head"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "look bigger. And he stuffed footballs in"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "the shoulders and the chest to add more"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "size. Now, people call this Bigfoot"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "Patty because they believe those are"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "breasts. But primate breasts aren't"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "covered in fur, even when the rest of"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "the animal is. Those aren't boobs,"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "they're footballs."}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:44", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:46", "text": ">> Now, they needed to make these"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "enhancements because Bob wasn't a huge"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "guy. just over six feet tall. Patterson"}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "said this creature was 7 feet tall, but"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "liar scans of the area proved that she"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "or he was actually about 6'2 or 6'3 at"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "the most. Bob Heronomous finally came"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "forward because Patterson promised to"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "pay him $1,000 to wear the suit. And"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "typical of Pattern's reputation, he"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "stiffed him. Also, the camera store"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "where Patterson rented the camera, they"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "actually filed charges of theft against"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "him. Patterson quickly parted ways with"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "A&E, who lost all their investment."}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "And there are more problems. Things like"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "the arches on the feet don't match the"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "cast that Patterson had. Patterson's own"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "father-in-law said he saw the casts and"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "they figured out how to make them heavy"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "enough to leave prints. And that's just"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "the tip of the debunk. I put a few links"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "below that debunk even more details,"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "more than you can ever want."}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:44", "text": ">> But there are a few problems debunking."}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:46", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "Bob Heronomous's description of the area"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "and the way to get to the film site was"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "wrong. He swore he could find the"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "location, but he couldn't. None of the"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "landmarks were in the right place. The"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "location, he said, was off by 23 miles."}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": ">> So what? All those woods look the same."}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": ">> They do, but he was asked if he wore the"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "suit during a lie detector test, and he"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "passed."}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:11", "text": ">> Were you the Bigfoot shown in the 1967"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "Patterson film?"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": ">> Yes. Lie detector proves nothing."}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:18", "text": ">> But Patterson also passed the lie"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "detector test."}, {"start": "01:12:18", "end": "01:12:20", "text": ">> Lie detector proves everything."}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:23", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:25", "text": ">> I want a Bigfoot to be real."}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:26", "text": ">> Do you want Bigfoot to be real or do you"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "want to know the truth?"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:30", "text": ">> I want the truth."}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:33", "text": ">> Pardon?"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": ">> The truth. I want the truth."}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:36", "text": ">> Fine."}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:37", "text": ">> But it's real."}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:42", "text": ">> The original footage was a shaky mess,"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "but modern technology allows us to"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "stabilize and enhance it."}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "Now, this is a suit. It's a good one."}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "Believers have pointed out that you"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "could see musculature. You can see that"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "it plants its foot more like a gorilla"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "than a human. Humans plant their heel,"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "then their toes, then use their arch for"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "stabilization. Big primates feet [music]"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "bend midfoot and it looks like Patty's"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "feet do this. Now, when I see these"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "analyses done, they're pretty"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "convincing, but we often see what we"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "want to see. If the film is a fake, it's"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "a really, really good one. And honestly,"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "I only lean toward fake because"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "Patterson was not an honest man. If this"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "turned out to be real, I wouldn't be"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:29", "text": "shocked. It's very convincing. We'll"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "likely never know. Bigfoot is an"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "industry now. Almost everything is a"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "hoax. We have no clear footage of this"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "animal. People constantly complain,"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "\"Everyone has a phone in their pocket."}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "Why don't we have a clear image of"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "Bigfoot?\" The answer is probably because"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "a clear image would reveal that it's"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "fake. The Patterson encounter was over"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "60 years [music] ago, and that's still"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "the best we've got. I want to see more."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "A skeleton, hair, [music] even feces. No"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "physical evidence of Bigfoot exists."}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:02", "text": ">> a pile of Bigfoot poop would be hard to"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "miss. it [music] would. Now, I've"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "covered a lot today, and there's more"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "than enough information out there for"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "you to make up your own mind, and"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "honestly, Bigfoot believers aren't"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "changing their minds. But the Patterson"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "film has won over a few skeptics."}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "Now, the Loch Ness monster. I think"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "everybody already knows the famous"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "surgeon's photograph is a fake. We only"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "ever see the unccropped version of the"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "photo where Nessie looks pretty big. But"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "in the real image, she's tiny. That's a"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "toy submarine with a little fake"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "dinosaur shape on it. Here's a rendering"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "of what it looked like."}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "And that film of Nessie. As soon as we"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "had the technology to increase the"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "contrast in the black and white 16 mm"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "film, new details appeared that were"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "invisible in the original film. It was a"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "boat. Now, I love the idea that Nessie"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "is a plesiosaurus, but they were air"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "breathers. So, if that's what it or she"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "is, we'd see them all the time. Besides,"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "Loch Ness was created about 10,000 years"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "ago when the ice sheets receded. [music]"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "Plesiosaurus went extinct 65 million"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "years ago. And a lot of the enhanced"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "photos we've seen, they're either hoaxes"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "or lots of liberties were taken with the"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "enhancement."}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:23", "text": ">> NASA did the photos."}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": ">> That's true. And we know NASA fakes"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "photos, but I don't know why NASA would"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "want to prove the existence of the Loch"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "Ness monster. Now, even though there are"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "still sightings of it, there are"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "actually fewer and fewer every year."}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "That's the sign of an urban legend"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "dying. Now, locals think it's a giant"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "eel, and scientists have found a lot of"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "eel DNA in the lake, but there are still"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "scientific teams hunting. Just 6 months"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "ago, a big expedition went out to find"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "Nessie, but [music] they came up empty."}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "Still, I don't think we can completely"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "rule out that something big is living in"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "Loch Ness."}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "Now for the goat sucker."}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:02", "text": ">> Ew. Chupacabra."}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:04", "text": ">> Maline Tolantino was the first witness"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "to describe the animal with web feet,"}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "alien eyes, spikes on its back, all"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "that. But most chupacabra reports in"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "later years sounded more like dogs,"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "coyotes, or wolves. Now, in 1996, Maline"}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "Tolantino gave an interview that throws"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "a lot of cold water on the story. She'd"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "seen the movie Species a few weeks"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "earlier. She thought that what she was"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "seeing was an actual alien hybrid like"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "in the movie. She even described it with"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "similar features. Also, a few weeks"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "before she saw the chupacabra, there"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "were reports of cattle mutilations in"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "the area. Now, of course, the UFO"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "researchers were all over that. It"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "turned out to be coyotes and other"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "predators."}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:44", "text": ">> Hey, uh who who who did that interview"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "with?"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:50", "text": ">> UFO Digest. L whenever UFO reporters are"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "around, you're going to get UFO reports."}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "That's how they make their living."}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "Now, there's no corroborating evidence"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "of any of the other attacks. Nobody's"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "ever come forward. There's no physical"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "evidence. But Patrick Hugh and Lauren"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "Coleman are well-known"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "cryptozoolologists who have interviewed"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "a lot of witnesses. They have a term"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "they call the lumping problem. People"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "tend to lump a bunch of stories into"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "one. Now on this channel, have you"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "noticed how many people are abducted as"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "children, taught psychic powers, become"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "super warriors on Mars, then time travel"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "back to their childhood bodies? These"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "people are lumping all the UFO tropes"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "into one story, and they're doing it for"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "money and attention. Maline Tolantino"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:34", "text": "was lumping the cattle mutilations with"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "the packs of coyotes in her town with a"}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "science fiction movie she just saw,"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "which by the way, she thought was real."}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "It got her a lot of attention, but the"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "story wasn't true. So, Chupacabra, no."}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "Lochess monster, [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "maybe something. Bigfoot, probably. No."}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "But maybe."}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "I went into this episode absolutely"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "certain I could debunk Bigfoot. If you"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "follow the channel, you know I'm not a"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "fan of the Bigfoot story. I thought"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "[music] it was going to be a layup, but"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "now I'm not so sure. Ah, now I'm not"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "saying I'm a believer, but seeing the"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "stabilized and enhanced Patterson film"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "has made me a little more open-minded."}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "But no matter how good AI or photo"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "enhancement software gets, we're never"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "going to get a cleaner version of the"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "Patterson film. So that's all we've got"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "to determine if it was a hoax. Now,"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "people on both sides are going to be"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "debating that film and that story until"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "the end of time. It's a story without an"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "ending, without closure, without"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "resolution. It's a story where the"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "ending is up to you. Hollywood hates"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "those kinds of stories, but me, I think"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "they're perfect."}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:50", "text": ">> 3 + 1 5 plus 0 0."}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:52", "text": ">> Those cryptids live mostly in warm"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "climates, but there are cryptids that"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "live in cold climates. In fact,"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:02", "text": ">> what are you doing? The neighbors are"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "calling saying their Wi-Fi is out."}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. It's my electromagnetic"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "pulse generator. I need it to track the"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "alien vessel's ion trail."}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:11", "text": ">> So, you're jamming the whole"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "neighborhood."}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:16", "text": ">> Small price to pay for planetary"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "security. Oh, I'm getting multiple"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "circles now, human. They're everywhere."}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "Look at this evidence."}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:29", "text": ">> Those are birds. And that's a plane."}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:31", "text": ">> Classic misdirection. I hear turbo"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "signature."}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:33", "text": ">> That's [music]"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "Gertie's help."}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "Thermal camouflage."}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "The Air Force is called me back."}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": ">> You didn't give them my address, did"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "you? Uh,"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:46", "text": ">> next up, cold cryptids."}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": ">> The Russian team at Lake Vastto in"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "Antarctica drilled through 2 mi of ice."}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "They were inches away from hitting water"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "that hadn't seen sunlight in [music] 20"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "million years. Then, communications went"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "dark."}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "5 days later, two scientists were dead."}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "The official report said hypothermia."}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "A witness statement tells a different"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "story. No country owns Antarctica, but"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "you need permission to visit. You're"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "restricted to designated areas, and you"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "must have a government approved escort."}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "[music] They say these rules are to"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "protect the environment, but people"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "who've been there know better. These"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "rules are there to protect something"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "else, something dangerous. At the bottom"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "of the world, there are monsters [music]"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "and we created them."}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "A single image appeared on 4chan's"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "paranormal board in February 2021. A"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "user was scanning the Antarctic"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "wasteland on Google Maps when they found"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "something strange."}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:07", "text": ">> Yeah, fortune always brings the good"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:12", "text": ">> A massive spiderlike creature clearly"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "visible against the ice and snow."}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "Nothing could survive there. Not for"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "millions of years, but [music] something"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "does."}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:23", "text": ">> I told you the good stuff."}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:26", "text": ">> Then son of Aunt Anan logged on."}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "Everyone called him Anton. His father,"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "Joe, was a Navy lieutenant and a doctor."}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "He served at McMmero station in the"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "1990s, and Joe knew exactly what that"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "creature was. People were skeptical"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "until Anton posted photos, his father's"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "patches from Antarctic Development"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "Squadron 6, military commendations on an"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "Antarctica-ashed plaque. Everything"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "checked out. Joe was the type who asked"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:52", "text": "questions [music] at McMmero. They"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "showed him the no-go zones. Most"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "Antarctica is restricted by"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "international treaties, [music] but"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "there is one zone about 30 mi east of"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "the base that even military expeditions"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "avoided. When Joe asked about it, they"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "said it was classified."}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "Anton posted the coordinates. When you"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "check them on Google Earth today, the"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "entire area is [music] blurred."}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "Another user found something else in the"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "area, a gray monolith. Soon, that image"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "was censored."}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "On Joe's first night at McMmero, there"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "was an incident. Seven soldiers burst"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "through the infirmary's door. [music]"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "They wore snow camo, but no insignia, no"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "unit patches. SFODA, he figured there"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "were lots of special forces at McMurdo."}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "The soldier they carried in was a mess."}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "His white Gortex Parker was shredded."}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "Steam rose from cuts too precise for any"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "animal. Razor thin lines that went"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "straight to the bone. The bleeding"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "wouldn't stop. The injured soldier was"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "screaming."}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:58", "text": ">> We let them loose. They were frozen and"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "we let them loose."}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:02", "text": ">> Joe needed to know what caused these"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "injuries. He scanned each soldier's face"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "looking for the leader. He asked, \"What"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "did you let loose?\" He heard a familiar"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "click behind him. He turned around. A"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "gun was in his face."}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "In the early 2000s, a Japanese vessel"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "patrolling Antarctic waters spotted"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "something unusual. At first, they"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "thought it was an iceberg, a featureless"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "white mass floating on the surface."}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "Then, it moved."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "As the ship approached, they realized it"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "was alive. It was 60 ft long with smooth"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "white skin. Some crew members saw limbs,"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:51", "text": "arms, hands, even fingers. Others"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "reported a tail like a mermaid."}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:56", "text": ">> Yeah, a tail like a mermaid and smooth"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "white skin. Huh? I think I dated her in"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "Atlantic City."}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:59", "text": ">> Uh, you didn't."}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:01", "text": ">> Because of that, broad. I'm still not"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "allowed at the Harris."}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:05", "text": ">> Can I get back to work here?"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:06", "text": ">> Who hits on 18 against a six?"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:09", "text": ">> Was it a soft 18?"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:12", "text": ">> Don't you dare."}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "All reports agreed on one detail. Its"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "eyes were large, round, and black, and"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "they looked almost human. They weren't"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "the first to see it, or the last. They"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "have a name for it. Nin, the Japanese"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "word for human. The crews who"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:27", "text": "encountered the Ninion never felt"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "threatened. It just watched them"}, {"start": "01:24:27", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "floating silently in the darkness. These"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "veteran sailors knew every whale, seal,"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "and fish species in the area. This was"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "something new. The pattern was always"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "[music] the same."}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "First, a disturbance in the water. Then,"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "a pale form rises to the surface, almost"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "invisible [music] against the ice. The"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "creature observes the ships for a few"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "minutes, then disappears silently"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "underwater."}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "In 2007, a Japanese magazine brought the"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:59", "text": "Ninion to the mainstream."}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "It published a blurry satellite [music]"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "image showing something enormous moving"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "in an Arctic waters. People began"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "searching Google Earth for evidence."}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "They found coordinates showing shadowy"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "white figures beneath the surface near"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "the Antarctic [music] coast. The shapes"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "were too large to be whales, too defined"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "to be icebergs. A few days later, the"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "images vanished."}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "Cryptozoolologists believe the Ninion"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "represents evidence of intelligent life"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "in Earth's oceans, a species that"}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "evolved alongside us but remained hidden"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "in the deep cold water. Others have a"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "more disturbing theory. Its humanoid"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "features are proof of genetic"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "experimentation. Secret research"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "facilities in Antarctica spliced whale"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "DNA [music] with humans and created the"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "nin."}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "Luckily, whales are peaceful. [music]"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "But what would happen if scientists"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "altered the DNA of something more"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "dangerous?"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:16", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:19", "text": ">> The injured soldier wouldn't stop"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "screaming, so the others gagged him."}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "[music] Joe stared down the barrel of a"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "45 caliber M1911. The man holding it"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "said, \"Treat [music] him.\" No questions."}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:32", "text": "Joe got to work. The kid was losing"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "blood fast. The soldier kept the gun"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "trained on him for a few seconds,"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "[music] making a point. Joe grabbed a"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "trauma kit and asked, \"Army?\" The guy"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "nodded. Captain [music] Jones, 10th SFG."}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "Joe knew the 10th Special Forces Group."}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "Green Berets trained for cold weather"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "combat. Jones holstered his weapon. Joe"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "glanced [music] at it and said, \"No,"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "Beretta.\" Jones shook his head. Not"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "enough stopping power. Joe wanted to"}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "ask, but [music] anger flashed across"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "Jones's face. Jo said, \"I'll take care"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "of your boy, Captain.\" [music] And Jones"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "relaxed, then nodded toward the door."}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "His men filed out. Jones said, \"Thanks,"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "Doc. You'll be seeing a lot of me.\" And"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "[music] he was right."}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "Day after day, bodies arrived with"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "devastating injuries. These weren't"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "tears or gashes. They were incisions,"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "perfectly straight lines that went bone"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "deep. Joe had seen bear attacks, shark"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "bites, industrial accidents. But this"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "was different. This was butchery. In"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "every [music] case, the base commander"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "ordered the same cause of death,"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "hypothermia, even when the body was"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "still warm. But Joe's most disturbing"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:44", "text": "experience happened during a storm. He"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "was driving with another officer when"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "they hit something big and heavy. Joe"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "hopped out to check the damage, but his"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "partner started screaming for him to get"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "back in the truck."}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:56", "text": "Joe ignored him and looked under the"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "mangled front end. At that moment,"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "[music] the no-go zones, the secrecy,"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "the injuries, everything made sense."}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "The leg under the truck was bone white"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "and spindly, not quite flesh, but not"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "quite exoskeleton."}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "He couldn't see the whole creature, but"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "it had to be enormous. The leg alone"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "stretched seven or 8 ft and was strong"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "enough to crush the steel of the truck."}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "It twitched once, then disappeared into"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "the storm. A few days later, he learned"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:49", "text": "what was filling his infirmary [music]"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "with bodies. Joe found a journal hidden"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "in one victim's coat. It had"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "descriptions [music]"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "of large white predators that could"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "cross Antarctica's terrain in massive 50"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "to 60 ft leaps. The researchers called"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "them striders."}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "Joe became obsessed and [music] started"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "breaking into offices at night. He found"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "classified files about winter operations"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "at a facility in the no-go zone east of"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "the base. An expense report listed"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "research equipment, [music]"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "but it was really a requisition for"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "ammunition. Thousands of rounds of"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "tungsten core penetrators. [music] Not"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "exactly standard issue."}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:31", "text": "Whenever a soldier showed up with an"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:33", "text": "injury, Joe would ask what happened, but"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "nobody would talk. It was always [music]"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "a training accident. The base commander"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "realized Joe was a security risk. He was"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "notified he'd be shipping out within the"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "week. 3 days before leaving McMmero"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "[music] in the middle of the night, Joe"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "was shaken awake. It was Captain Jones."}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "He said, [music] \"Doc, we need to talk.\""}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "Joe started to tell him to sleep it off."}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "Then he felt something heavy land on his"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "chest. It was a piece of a strider's"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "[music] leg. Joe immediately started to"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "panic. Jones put his hand over Joe's"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "mouth. As Joe's [music] eyes adjusted to"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "the darkness, he saw Jones was covered"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:12", "text": "in blood. He couldn't tell whose."}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "[music] Joan said he just returned from"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "a mission. He needed to tell him about"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "it. After months of trying to find the"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "truth, Joe wasn't sure he wanted to know"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "anymore, but Captain Jones was going to"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "tell him anyway."}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "Lake Vastto lies 2 miles beneath"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "Antarctic ice. It hasn't seen sunlight"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "in 20 million years. The Russians spent"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "decades drilling toward it. In 2012,"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "they broke through. Then everything went"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "dark."}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:47", "text": ">> Hello darkness, my old friend."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:49", "text": ">> Not now."}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:52", "text": ">> Sorry."}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:55", "text": ">> For 5 days, nothing. No radio contact,"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "no signals, just silence."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "When communications returned, two"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "scientists were dead. The official"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "cause, hypothermia."}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "But Dr. Anton Podulka's classified"}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "report tells a different story. The team"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "found something in Lake Vastto that"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "evolved in complete isolation for"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "millions of years. They called it"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "organism 46b. The creature stretched"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "over 30 ft long and looked [music] like"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "a giant octopus."}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:21", "text": ">> No. Did it have testicles?"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:22", "text": ">> Tentacles?"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:24", "text": ">> What' I say?"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:26", "text": ">> Yes, it had tentacles. But instead of"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "eight, it had 14."}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:31", "text": ">> Oh, so a tetracapus. You see what I did"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "there?"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:36", "text": ">> Its skin was almost transparent. Perfect"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "camouflage in the darkness. But its most"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "terrifying feature wasn't its size. It"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "was its intelligence. The first diver"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "was 10 ft from the creature when it"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "released a toxin into the water. It was"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "instantly paralyzed."}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "He tread water wearing blissful smile as"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "organism approached him. We watched"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "helplessly as it used its arms to tear"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "off its head then popped its remains in"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "mouth is like it had hypnotized him"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "telepathically."}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:12", "text": ">> The second death was worse. The creature"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "could shapeshift."}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:17", "text": ">> It shaped itself into form of human"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "diver. We thought it was one of"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "colleagues swimming towards us in"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "[music] scuba gear. By the time the"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "closest scientist realized what it was,"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "it had grabbed him and torn him to bits."}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "The research team captured it"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "temporarily, but like everything else"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "connected to Lake Bastto, organism 46B"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "vanished. Russia's official statement"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "mentioned only bacteria. Then they"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "restricted all access to the lake. The"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "original drilling site was abandoned."}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "Armed guards now patrol the area. In"}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "2017, genetic researchers analyzed water"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "samples from Lake Vastto. They found DNA"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "sequences suggesting intelligence far"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "beyond any known sephalopod."}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "Then everything disappeared. The"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "samples, the data, the reports."}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "According to official records, the"}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "research never happened."}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "What made organism 46B so important that"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:18", "text": "it had to be kept secret? [music]"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:21", "text": "Dr. Podala's final report gives a clue."}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "During its brief captivity, organism 46B"}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "figured out how to disable security"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "systems. It understood cameras and"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "lights."}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:34", "text": ">> This wasn't just ancient predator. This"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "was something else. something that had"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "evolved in complete isolation."}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "Developing abilities we can't"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "comprehend. The shape-shifting, the"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "toxins, the intelligence. These weren't"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "just survival adaptations,"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "they were weapons."}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "The lake remains under constant"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "surveillance. Military vessels patrol"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:33:59", "text": "its perimeter. [music] Satellite images"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "are scrubbed. For a lake with nothing"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "but bacteria, there's a lot of effort"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "being made to keep people out or keep"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "something in."}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "Jones team was ordered to secure a"}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "facility deep in the no-go zone. They"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "loaded up for war."}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "Heavy weapons, body armor, an M134"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "minigun that could fire 4,000 rounds per"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "minute. They weren't taking any chances."}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "The entrance looked normal, just another"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "research building in the middle of"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "nowhere. That was the point. What was"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "underneath wasn't normal at all. The"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "first body they found was [music] face"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "down in a hallway. These weren't slash"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "marks. These were surgical cuts, clean"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "and deliberate. Then they heard"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "skittering. Something moved in the"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "shadows. Before anyone could react, it"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "lunged. A strider the size of a large"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:12", "text": "dog. The soldiers opened fire, but it"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "was already on Henderson. The thing"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "didn't just attack, it dissected with"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "perfect cuts. Henderson was still"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "conscious and screaming when the strider"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "peeled his face off. 11 men became 10."}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "Large striders were dangerous, but at"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "least you can see them coming. The small"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "ones were the problem. Not much bigger"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "than house cats, they moved in packs"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "through the vents. They could climb."}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "They could jump. The team learned to"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "watch the ceiling after finding"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "Mitchell."}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "He'd been dragged down a hallway and"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "into an office. His legs were still"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "twitching while the striders went to"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "work. 10 men became nine."}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "It took 18 hours to clear the facility."}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "In the basement, they found a lab the"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "size of an airplane hanger. There were"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "cages of all sizes. Most were broken"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "open and empty. Bodies were [music]"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "everywhere. Blood trails led to the"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "vents. The largest cage held a strider"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "[music] nearly 40 feet tall. Then they"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "realized this was a breeding facility"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "and something went very, very wrong."}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "But what they found in the next room is"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "what broke them. Two medium-sized"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "striders in a cage feeding on something."}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "Joan's team moved closer. The air"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "smelled sweet and tasted metallic. This"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "cage wasn't broken. It was fully intact"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "with a chute for dropping in food. The"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "striders were loud and violent [music]"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "as they tore through their meal."}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "Then they saw small shoes, a tiny"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "backpack. One of the men vomited. The"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "striders [music]"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "were eating children."}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:07", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:11", "text": ">> Documents scattered across the facility"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "told a dark story. [music] This was a"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "joint operation between America, Chile,"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "and China. They were breeding striders,"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "trying [music] to control them. They"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "spliced genes to make the creatures more"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "aggressive. They were also trying to"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "make them more obedient."}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> It sounds like they got it half right."}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "These were apex predators millions of"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "years ago, frozen in the ice until"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "scientists woke them up. But it gets"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "[music] worse."}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": ">> It always gets worse."}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": ">> Behind the testing labs, a bullet train"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "terminal. Tunnels stretched beneath the"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "ocean floor to cities all over the"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "world. Hong Kong, New York, Melbourne,"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "London. The trains used magnetic"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "levitation technology decades ahead"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "[music] of its time."}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "Lab notes mentioned delivery schedules,"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "regular shipments from major [music]"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "cities. The striders were being"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "conditioned to hunt specific targets."}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "The shipments were people, mostly"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "children."}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "This was the largest human trafficking"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "operation in the world. After his father"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "died, Anton found his old computer, an"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "Apple 2e [music] from McMurdo. The hard"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "drives contained everything. DNA"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "sequences, facility layouts, shipping"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "manifests, all the evidence was there,"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "[music] but he needed help recovering"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "the data. Users warned him to leave the"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "drives alone. Some gave advice on not"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "how to recover the drives, on how to"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "destroy [music] them. Others just said,"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "\"Run.\""}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "Anton never posted again. The Google"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "Earth image that started it all has been"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "scrubbed. The coordinates show only ice"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "and snow. But beneath the surface, the"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "network still operates."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "What was once confined to Antarctica now"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "has access to every continent on Earth."}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "Antarctica is Earth's true last"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "frontier. No country owns it. That's"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "what the lizard people want you to"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "think. They own everything below sea"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "level."}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": ">> In 1947, Admiral Richard E. Bird led"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "Operation High Jump, one of the largest"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "Antarctic expeditions in history. They"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "loaded up with enough firepower to start"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "a war."}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:26", "text": ">> Operation High Jump. Link down and you"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "lose Papoose."}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:32", "text": ">> The expedition ended early. Very early."}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "During World War II, the Nazis launched"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "Operation Nwaban. Rumors spread about"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "discoveries beneath the ice, underground"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "caverns, ancient ruins, evidence of"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "something that predates humanity. We"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "know high-ranking German officials fled"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "to South America after the war."}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:49", "text": ">> Link to Operation Eagle Flight Down in"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "your kicktosa."}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:52", "text": ">> Cakes dosa."}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:55", "text": ">> Yellow."}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:57", "text": ">> Most Nazis fled to Argentina. Others,"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "according to theories, escaped to a"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "hidden base Antarctica. The US"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "government took this theory seriously."}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "In 1959, they locked down the entire"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "continent. The Anarctic Treaty banned"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "military presence, private exploration,"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "unauthorized access."}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "And it's true that some coordinates are"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "censored. That's what allowed the"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "Strider legend to start. Google does"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "scrub images. I had to clean up Anton's"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "post to make them coherent. I tried not"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "to add too much, but Anton typed like a"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "typical 4chan user. All lowercase, no"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "punctuation, random slurs for some"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "reason."}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "Anton's military patches and documents"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "seem compelling, but those are easy to"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "fake. But the underground bullet train"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "network stretching across continents,"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "that's impossible. Subs can't go that"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "deep. No hollow tunnel could survive"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "that pressure. I couldn't help but"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "notice a lot of his story mirrors the"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:54", "text": ">> Very underrated movie. Uh Kurt Russell"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "in the8s is gold."}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:59", "text": ">> I agree. I can't say for sure that"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:02", "text": "Anton's story is fake, [music] but he"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "was probably riffing on the thing. He"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "got some things right, though. McMurto"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "Station has restricted areas. Military"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "personnel conduct classified operations"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "there. The [music] no-go zones are real."}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "The Ninion is another fun story. A"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "massive humanoid creature with pale skin"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "and human features [music] lurking in an"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "Arctic waters. But like most crypted"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "stories, the evidence doesn't hold up."}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "The photos show exactly what you'd"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "expect: [music] blurry white shapes in"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "dark water, and most are icebergs. Some"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "are photoshopped, others are beluga"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "whales, which have smooth [music] white"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "skin and round humanoid faces. But the"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "ninion is supposed to be 60 ft long."}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "Beluga whales aren't that big, but sperm"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "whales are."}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:50", "text": ">> Stop it. They sometimes hunt vertically,"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "floating upright. Maybe that's what they"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "saw. There's no mention of the Ninion"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "before the early 2000s, but there is"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "Japanese folklore about creatures called"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "Nino, which means human fish. Again, I"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "[music] can't prove it's fake, but it's"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "probably fake. Now, organism 46B, the"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "psychic [music] shape-shifting seeopod."}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:12", "text": ">> Catch me."}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:14", "text": ">> That one is pure fiction. The story"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "comes from [music] a post on a tabloid"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "site in 2013. Dr. Anton Podulka doesn't"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "exist. [music]"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "In 2012, Russian scientists did drill"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "into Lake Vastto. And it's true that an"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "actual freshwater lake 2 mi under the"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "ice that hasn't been exposed for about"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "20 million years is there. That's"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "fertile ground for an urban legend"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "[music] to be born. So, one was. These"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "three stories don't hold up, but"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "Antarctica's mysteries, those are real."}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "[music] UFO sightings, strange lights in"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "the sky, unexplained crashes. Satellite"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "images showed massive structures with"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "entrances under the ice. Once the"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "coordinates got out, the images were"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "blurred. And if you want to see this for"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "yourself,"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:43:00", "text": ">> go watch Mysteries Beneath the Ice, an"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "episode so nice, I linked it twice."}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:04", "text": ">> Antarctica is bigger than Europe and"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "Australia. It's much bigger than the"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "United States. Yet only a tiny fraction"}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "is open to the public. You can visit if"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "you're from a signatory country and can"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "get a permit. Good luck with that. Most"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "of the continent is specially protected"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "or specially managed. You need another"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "permit for those areas. You won't get"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "one. Antarctica is one of Earth's most"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:29", "text": "restricted places. Maybe that's for a"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "reason. We're told the rules are there"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "to protect the environment. But until we"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "can see for ourselves, we'll always"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "wonder if they're protecting something"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "else."}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "[music] I don't believe in these"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "cryptids, but doing this show has made"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "me believe other things. Crop circles"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "are real. The moon is weird and there's"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "something under the ice at the bottom of"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "the world. [music] I don't know why, but"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "I have a very strong feeling that"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "whatever it is, we should probably leave"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "it alone."}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:09", "text": ">> 3 + 1 5 + 0 0."}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:11", "text": ">> Yes, I I know, Mrs. Fefficorn. I know. I"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:13", "text": "remember the last time. I promise I I'll"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "take care of it."}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:19", "text": "Okay. Sorry, Mrs. Fericorn. Yep. You I"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "just got off the phone with Mrs."}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "Fefficorn from the HOA for unauthorized"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "installation on the roof again."}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:28", "text": ">> What? I registered dirty as an emotional"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "support camel."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:32", "text": ">> Well, the HOA doesn't care. And"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "apparently the news is there."}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:34", "text": ">> Have officials made contact with the"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "animal yet?"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": ">> We are live here on the scene. Still"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "waiting for a response."}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:42", "text": ">> Hey, any publicity is good publicity,"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "right? Not really. No."}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:47", "text": ">> Don't worry. Don't worry. I set up a"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "perimeter defense system. Non-lethal"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "mostly."}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:53", "text": ">> You better not hurt anybody with"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:55", "text": ">> The craft signatures just went dark."}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "It's within 100 yards. Activating"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "perimeter defense."}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:03", "text": ">> Oh, great. I'm sure this is going to be"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "fine."}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "Next up, electric cryptids."}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "In 2015, a routine study by the United"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "States Geological Survey, or USGS,"}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "discovered strange electrical patterns"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "and vast cave networks beneath New"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "Jerseys pine barons, formations that"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "shouldn't exist in that area."}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "When researchers compared their data"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "with other surveys, they found identical"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "formations and energy signatures in"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "three other places. The hills of West"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "Virginia, the Congo Basin, and eastern"}, {"start": "01:45:39", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "Oklahoma. Each site had vast underground"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "cave systems, [music] and each site"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:49", "text": "showed unusual electrical activity,"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "repeating patterns of energy too precise"}, {"start": "01:45:49", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "to be natural. The more the data was"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "analyzed, the more connections were"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "found. And there was one connection the"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "government did not want to talk about."}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "All four locations were connected to"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "crypted sightings. In 2018, the USGS"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "quietly issued a final report. Despite"}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "being thousands of miles apart, the"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "tunnels are laid out in the same"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "mathematical grid, a grid that's slowly"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "expanding toward a central point. It"}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "looks like that not only are the"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "creatures living in the underground"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "caves, now they're digging. and they're"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:27", "text": "digging toward the same destination. So,"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "two questions. How are these cryptids"}, {"start": "01:46:27", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "connected? And what happens when their"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "tunnels intersect? [music]"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "The earliest mention of the New Jersey"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "Devil is 1735. Deborah Leadeds gave"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "birth to her 13th child. According to"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "the legend, she cursed the child, saying"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "it would be the devil. Then the child"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "transformed into a monstrous creature."}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:59", "text": ">> Teenagers, am I right?"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:01", "text": ">> One sentence. Can I build drama for more"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "than just one sentence?"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:04", "text": ">> I'm sorry. I know you don't like"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "cryptids, so I'm trying to help you keep"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:06", "text": "it moving."}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:08", "text": ">> You don't need to. We're going to talk"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "about four different cryptids today."}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:10", "text": ">> Fine. I'll write four times as many"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "jokes."}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": ">> No, please don't."}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:16", "text": ">> You're welcome. Local"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "folklore says the Jersey Devil has bat"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "wings, a goat's head, and a forked tail."}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "You can sometimes see it flying around"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "the pine baronss of New Jersey."}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:26", "text": ">> The only thing scarier in New Jersey to"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "drive is you ever seen him on a tur pike"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "trying to wrangle a left turn out of a"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "jug handle?"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:34", "text": ">> All right, that's enough."}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:36", "text": ">> I'm going to light it up today."}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:39", "text": ">> The most documented appearance of the"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:41", "text": "New Jersey Devil was January 1909."}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "Hundreds of residents across multiple"}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "counties reported seeing it. The wave of"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "sightings transformed the local legend"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "into national news. The creature was"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "described the same way by many"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "witnesses."}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "It had wings like a bat, a head like a"}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:59", "text": "horse or a goat, and walked on two legs."}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "[screaming] From the side, its face was"}, {"start": "01:47:59", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "like a kangaroo, a long neck, and eyes"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "that were described as glowing red orbs."}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "Several people said they smelled sulfur."}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:12", "text": "It was awkwardl looking but fast and"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:14", "text": "agile. It could launch itself straight"}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "up into the air and take flight. There"}, {"start": "01:48:14", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "were even hoof prints in the snow. The"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "prince would suddenly disappear as if it"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "jumped into the air. It was a big deal"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:27", "text": "in the area. Schools were closed."}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "Factory workers refused to work nights."}, {"start": "01:48:27", "end": "01:48:32", "text": "Police officers, politicians,"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "businessmen, they all filed reports. The"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "Philadelphia Zoo offered a reward to"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:39", "text": "anyone who could catch it."}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "Multiple newspapers, including the New"}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "York Times, covered the incidents. Law"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:47", "text": "enforcement records showed consistent"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "physical evidence at multiple locations."}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "Witness reports flooded in from"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "Burlington, Gloucester, and Salem"}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "counties. A Burlington hunter reported"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "being attacked [music] and clawed by the"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "creature."}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:01", "text": "In Woodbury, a group of boys threw rocks"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "at it, which caused it to screech and"}, {"start": "01:49:01", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "flap away."}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "Modern analysis gives a clue why this"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "area might be home to the devil. The New"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "Jersey Pine Barons sit on top of one of"}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "the largest aquifer systems in the"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "country. More than 17 trillion gallons"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:21", "text": "of [music] water. Recent studies"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "revealed extensive cave networks"}, {"start": "01:49:21", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "threading through the aquifer system."}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "Geologists say these caves shouldn't"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "exist [music] in this type of"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "sedimentary rock. During the 1909"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "sightings, there were also electrical"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "anomalies reported. Telegraph equipment"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "behaved erratically. Messages were"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "garbled with strange sequences of"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "numbers. When modern cryptographers"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:46", "text": "analyze these sequences in 2018, they"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "found a pattern, one that matched"}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "electrical wavelengths now being [music]"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "recorded by the USGS."}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "In 1909, police reports documented"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "footprints [music] in the snow. cloven"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "hooves that started and stopped"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "impossibly, as if the creature just"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "vanished. They even took plaster molds"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "of the tracks. The Jersey Devil moved"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "with an unusual gate unlike any other"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "animal on record. In 2021, the"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "Philadelphia Police Department finally"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "released their complete files from 1909."}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "Among them was a sealed report about the"}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "plaster casts. Modern analysis revealed"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:27", "text": "rare minerals in the prints [music] that"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "don't exist in surface soil. They only"}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "exist in deep cave systems [music]"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "thousands of feet underground. They"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:37", "text": "finally discovered the layer of the New"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:37", "text": "Jersey Devil."}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "On September 12th, 1952, seven people in"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "Flatwoods, West Virginia, saw something"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "that changed their lives and the town"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "forever."}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "Witnesses included Kathleen May and"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "Eugene Lemon serving in the National"}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "Guard. Their encounter would become part"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "of Project Blue Book, the Air Force's"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "official UFO investigation program."}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "The entity they described was at least"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "10 ft tall. It hovered above the ground"}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "in a column of mist with glowing orange"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "eyes. Its body appeared both mechanical"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "and organic. [music]"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "A metallic dark pleated skirt-like"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "structure tapered to a point. Most"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "distinctive was its head. People said it"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "was shaped like an ace of spades and it"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:35", "text": "had small claws on its sides. It emitted"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "a nauseating metallic odor that made"}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "witnesses violently ill."}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "There was physical evidence as well."}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "Seven witnesses suffered nausea and"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:48", "text": "throat irritation lasting several days."}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "Ground analysis revealed an unusual oily"}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "residue at the site, and military"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "investigators said radiation in the area"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:58", "text": "was twice the normal level. The Air"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "Force had an official explanation. It"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "was an owl perched on a branch."}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:02", "text": ">> An owl? What about the physical"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "evidence?"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:05", "text": ">> Oh, they ignored it."}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:06", "text": ">> No, they didn't. They just didn't tell"}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "anyone."}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:11", "text": ">> That's probably true."}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:11", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:16", "text": ">> That night, dozens of people across four"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "counties reported similar lights in the"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:21", "text": "sky. Local radio stations complained"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:23", "text": "about widespread electrical"}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "interference. Military radar tracked an"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "unknown object moving at over 13,000 mph"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "before stopping over Flatwoods. Project"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "Blue Book investigators arrived almost"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "immediately. The report was declassified"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "in 1975. The electrical readings at the"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:43", "text": "site matched [music] no known pattern,"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "but the radiation signature did match"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "other locations. Readings taken in New"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "Jersey and later Oklahoma."}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:52", "text": "Recent geological studies revealed why"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "the creature may have appeared in"}, {"start": "01:52:52", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "Flatwoods. It's the same story. The"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "location is the intersection of three"}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "underground rivers."}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:04", "text": "This creates electrical conditions like"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "those found in the Pine Barons. And"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "according to the USGS data, [music] that"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "energy is getting stronger."}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:14", "text": "When the reports from 1952 were"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "reanalyzed, they found that precise"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "geographic coordinates of sightings"}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "happened near the electrical"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:22", "text": "disturbances"}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "and the highest energy readings matched"}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:26", "text": "the most vivid accounts of the Flatwoods"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "monster. Now, based on the locations of"}, {"start": "01:53:26", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "the reports, the creature seemed to be"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "leading people somewhere. And [music] it"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "turned out that that place was the"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "entrance of an underground cave system."}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "For generations, the tribes living deep"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:51", "text": "in the Congo have told stories about a"}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:53", "text": "monster living in the swamp. According"}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "to legend, it's a massive creature with"}, {"start": "01:53:53", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "a long neck, tiny head, and powerful"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "tail. And it leaves behind huge"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "footprints. They call it M. Kelly"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "Benbeck."}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "me."}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:06", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:06", "text": ">> It's fun to say."}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "Go ahead, try it."}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:12", "text": ">> Can we just get through?"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:13", "text": ">> It feels good in your mouth."}, {"start": "01:54:12", "end": "01:54:15", "text": ">> That's what she said."}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:19", "text": ">> There he is. I was wondering when you'd"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "wake up."}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "And Kelly Bambe has brownish green scaly"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "reptilian skin and three huge claws on"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "each foot. The locals were describing a"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:30", "text": "sour pot, a dinosaur. But this was"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "before the first dinosaur was"}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "discovered. For centuries, these were"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "just local stories and nothing more. But"}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "that changed when western explorers"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "started reporting their own terrifying"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "encounters with Kelly Bmbe."}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:48", "text": "In 1913, German explorer Captain Ludvig"}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "Ferrostein led an expedition near Lake"}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:52", "text": "Tellele. He was searching for a race of"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "dwarves rumored to be living in the"}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "area. What he found instead were"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:55:00", "text": "enormous footprints over 3 ft long. They"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "showed signs of a massive body being"}, {"start": "01:55:00", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "dragged. Local guides weren't surprised"}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "at all. They said the tracks belonged to"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "Kelly Bmbebe. More sightings emerged"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "over the following years."}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "In 1919, American missionary Eugene"}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:20", "text": "Thomas reported a dinosaur-like creature"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "crossing the Jaw River. In 1932, famous"}, {"start": "01:55:20", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "cryptozoolologist Ivan Sanderson was"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "charged by a huge animal during an"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "expedition. He described it as a"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "reptilian beast about 6 ft high."}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:35", "text": "The scientific community remained"}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:37", "text": "skeptical until the 1980s. Dr. Roy M's"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:40", "text": "team uncovered a fresh set of 3- foot"}, {"start": "01:55:37", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "long footprints near Lake Tellle. They"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:44", "text": "could only have been left [music] by an"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:48", "text": "extremely large, heavy bipeedal reptile."}, {"start": "01:55:44", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "In other words, a dinosaur."}, {"start": "01:55:48", "end": "01:55:52", "text": "In 1992, a Japanese film crew captured"}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "footage of a large creature swimming"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "across the lake."}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "The Japanese expedition traveled to"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "remote blackellle in the heart of the"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "combo forest."}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "We're looking for a dinosaur. A longlost"}, {"start": "01:56:07", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "leftover from the Cretaceous Pure."}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "They even claimed to have seen and shot"}, {"start": "01:56:14", "end": "01:56:21", "text": "footage of plesiosaurike creatures"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:21", "text": "swimming in the waters of the lake."}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "Other witnesses have come forward over"}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "the years with similar [music] reports."}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "In 2003, a group of miners claimed to"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:35", "text": "have seen a rhinosized creature with a"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "long tail and small head drinking from a"}, {"start": "01:56:35", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "river."}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:41", "text": "Locals reported a dinosaur attacked"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "their crops in 2021. All these sightings"}, {"start": "01:56:41", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "occurred in the same area directly above"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:49", "text": "one of the sprawling underground tunnel"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "systems identified by the USGS. and all"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:55", "text": "are electrical hotspots."}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "In 2016, researchers from National"}, {"start": "01:56:55", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "Geographic were exploring [music] those"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:01", "text": "caves. Carved into the walls were a"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "series of ancient illustrations. They"}, {"start": "01:57:01", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "depicted Mckllenbe, [music]"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "small head, large body, and the artwork"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "dated back over 20,000 [music]"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:12", "text": "years. When first discovered,"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "researchers assumed the drawings were"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "fiction. Now, it seemed like whoever"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "lived in those caves all those years ago"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "was writing down [music] history"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "in eastern Oklahoma. For years,"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "something has been stalking the dense"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "forests. Locals call it the Adair beast"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "or the Oklahoma Bigfoot. It's a massive"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "creature covered in hair. It walks"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "upright like a man, but its footprints"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "are definitely not human."}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:51", "text": "The earliest reported sightings date"}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:53", "text": "back to the 1970s around Sylum Springs."}, {"start": "01:57:51", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "Delbert and Ernestine Harris were"}, {"start": "01:57:53", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "driving home one night when [music] a"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "huge hairy beast crossed the road"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "directly in front of them. It was at"}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "least 8 ft tall with an overpowering"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "stench like a skunk."}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "In August 1971, Adair County Sheriff saw"}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "a creature he couldn't explain. It stood"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "over 8 ft tall, its body covered in dark"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "reddish brown hair. Witnesses described"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "a face that looked like a cross between"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "an ape and a dog or an ape and a wolf."}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:23", "text": "It has long powerful arms and hands with"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "claws."}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:26", "text": ">> Wa! It sounds like a crab kid."}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:28", "text": ">> Uh, no. I think it's"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:30", "text": ">> It has the body of a crib and the face"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "of a cat."}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:34", "text": ">> A crab cat."}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "Its eyes are amber colored and reflect"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "light like a predators. Feb,"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:45", "text": ">> but the witnesses say behind those eyes"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "is an unsettling intelligence. Multiple"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:49", "text": "police officers encountered the ARB"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "beast that summer. They said it moved"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "much too quickly for its size. A deputy"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "tracked it through creek bottom. It left"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:59:00", "text": "behind a trail of mutilated livestock"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "and footprints 17 in long with distinct"}, {"start": "01:59:00", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "claw marks. The pattern showed it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "wandering aimlessly. It was hunting for"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "food. More encounters were reported over"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "the following years across Cherokee and"}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "Ader counties."}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "In 1976, [music]"}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "a truck driver almost ran into it as it"}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:20", "text": "lumbered across the highway. He said it"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "was half man and half animal with matted"}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "reddish brown fur and glowing eyes that"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "reflected his headlights."}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "In 1997, a state wildlife officer took"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "casts of enormous footprints found near"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "Sylum Springs."}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "Footprints that measured 17 in long and"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "8 in wide with clear definitions of an"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "arch and five distinct toes."}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:48", "text": "The sightings continued into the 2010s."}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:50", "text": "There was a 2012 encounter where a young"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "woman and her children reported being"}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:54", "text": "followed by something big and growling"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "when they were driving home. When they"}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "finally got home, they found a series of"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:01", "text": "14in footprints leading up to the front"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "door."}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "I don't know if anything was found"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "inside. I can't find what happened to"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "them. I'm sure they're fine."}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "All these incidents occurred directly"}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "above the underground electrical hot"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "spot identified in the USGS reports. The"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "area has the same cave networks found at"}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "the other crypted sites. A local rancher"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "captured the creature on film in 1971."}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "8 seconds of footage that still defies"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "explanation. Analysis confirmed the"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "subject's height is exactly 8t 3 in. But"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "the footage showed something else. It"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:40", "text": "was examining the ground in a grid"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "pattern that matched the underground"}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "geometric formations."}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "In 1971, no one knew about the"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "underground water system or the cave"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "networks beneath Adair County. When they"}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:53", "text": "were finally discovered in 1982, the"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:56", "text": "readings were identical to the other"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "three locations."}, {"start": "02:00:56", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "When researchers mapped sightings"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "against the electrical anomalies, they"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:04", "text": "formed a perfect pentagon, with each"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "point corresponding to a deep tunnel in"}, {"start": "02:01:04", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "the cave system."}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "The local sheriff's final report"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "included one chilling detail. Deep in"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "those caves, they found claw marks in"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "solid granite. Chemical analysis"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "confirmed the rock was 300 million years"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "old, but the claw marks, they were"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "fresh."}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:33", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:34", "text": ">> Four locations, four creatures. For over"}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "a hundred years, there have been"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "sightings of the Jersey Devil, Flatwoods"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "Monster, and Kelly Bmbe, and the Adair"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:43", "text": "Beast. Today, we covered a theory that"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "the sightings weren't isolated events."}, {"start": "02:01:43", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "[music] They were connected, tied to"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "locations that hide vast underground"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "tunnel systems and unusual electric"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:57", "text": "phenomena. But is it true?"}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "Well, hard evidence is tricky. There is"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "hard evidence of all four of these, but"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:04", "text": "is it definitely evidence of a crypted?"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "Well, we don't know. Skeptics say the"}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:09", "text": "Adair Beast footprints are a hoax. But"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "that part of Oklahoma is a Bigfoot"}, {"start": "02:02:09", "end": "02:02:13", "text": "sighting hot spot. There's been so many"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:16", "text": "reports that [music] for the past 16"}, {"start": "02:02:13", "end": "02:02:18", "text": "years, Hanobia, Oklahoma has hosted an"}, {"start": "02:02:16", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "annual Bigfoot festival. Now, I don't"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "know if these people have seen a"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "Bigfoot, but I believe that they've seen"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:25", "text": "something."}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "The Jersey Devil has been seen by"}, {"start": "02:02:25", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "thousands of people, over a thousand in"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "January 1909 over the course of just a"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "few days. But the story has a few"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "problems. First, there's no record of a"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:40", "text": "Deborah Leadeds or her 13 children, but"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "I didn't expect there to be. But Daniel"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "Leeds was a local politician in the"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "early 18th century. He was so unpopular"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:50", "text": "that locals called him the devil. In"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "fact, the Jersey Devil creature was"}, {"start": "02:02:50", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "first known as the lead's devil. The"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:56", "text": "13th child legend emerged from around"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "that. But the truth is this was"}, {"start": "02:02:56", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "political name calling that stuck"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:02", "text": ">> 300 years before Trump did it."}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:06", "text": ">> Yep. It was so effective that Daniel"}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "Leeds left the country."}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "In 1909, thousands of people did see the"}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:14", "text": "Jersey Devil, but what they saw was"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:16", "text": "proven to be a hoax. It was a live"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:17", "text": "kangaroo that had wings attached to it"}, {"start": "02:03:16", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "with a harness."}, {"start": "02:03:17", "end": "02:03:20", "text": ">> Yeah. And the people fell for this."}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:23", "text": ">> Well, people believe what they want to"}, {"start": "02:03:20", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "believe. I'll prove it. Look. Uh, are"}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "alien abductions real?"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:29", "text": ">> Of course they are."}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:30", "text": ">> See, but the hooves. The hooves."}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:33", "text": ">> Now, to be fair, there were prints in"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:33", "text": "the snow."}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:39", "text": ">> What they never tell you is they were"}, {"start": "02:03:36", "end": "02:03:41", "text": "tiny, maybe an inch or two wide. Lots of"}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:44", "text": "birds in the area have prints just like"}, {"start": "02:03:41", "end": "02:03:46", "text": "them. And of course, birds can fly."}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "Still, there are official reports of"}, {"start": "02:03:46", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "people being terrorized by something in"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:51", "text": "South Jersey."}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:52", "text": ">> Yeah, the drivers."}, {"start": "02:03:51", "end": "02:03:54", "text": ">> You did that joke already."}, {"start": "02:03:52", "end": "02:03:56", "text": ">> Ah, sorry. Sorry. I I lost my place in"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:03:59", "text": "the script. Uh, can we pick it up from"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:03:59", "text": ">> Kelly Bbe?"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:02", "text": ">> Would you stop that?"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:05", "text": ">> Come on. We can get a new t-shirt out of"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "this"}, {"start": "02:04:05", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "maze."}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:12", "text": ">> Yeah, it's not worth it."}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:15", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:17", "text": ">> That footage from 1992 is real, but it's"}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "up for interpretation. Without being"}, {"start": "02:04:17", "end": "02:04:21", "text": "prompted, most people don't see a"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:23", "text": "dinosaur. I didn't. They see a canoe."}, {"start": "02:04:21", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "Just like the Loch Ness monster. There's"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "that footage of it that looks pretty"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "compelling until you realize you're"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:32", "text": "looking at a boat. Even if Kellybeay is"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "real, it's not going to be a water-based"}, {"start": "02:04:32", "end": "02:04:37", "text": "sour pod. They didn't stay submerged"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "that long. They breathed air. The"}, {"start": "02:04:37", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "ancient legend of Kelly Bbeay can be"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:44", "text": "traced back to the early 20th century."}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "Captain Luvigver Ver Vonstein, he's the"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "first person to document the story and"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "he was repeating local folklore, but"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "even he said he didn't believe the"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:55", "text": "story. And Kelly Bbe took off in 1907"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "when actual giant dinosaur bones were"}, {"start": "02:04:55", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "found in the area. Finally, the"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:01", "text": "Flatwoods Monster. To me, this is the"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:03", "text": "weirdest one. It's classified as a"}, {"start": "02:05:01", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "crypted, but technically it started out"}, {"start": "02:05:03", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "as a UFO sighting. Just after 7:00 p.m.,"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "a light stre across the sky. A few boys"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:13", "text": "were playing football outside. They"}, {"start": "02:05:11", "end": "02:05:15", "text": "called for help and chased it. Eight or"}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:16", "text": "nine people followed it over a hill and"}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:18", "text": "they were trapped in a mist that smelled"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "like sulfur. Then they saw the creature"}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:22", "text": "hovering near a tree. Now the group was"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "terrified. They ran to the sheriff who"}, {"start": "02:05:22", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "was already out investigating a plane"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "crash."}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:29", "text": ">> Oh, I said this thing was a plane."}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:32", "text": ">> Probably not. There was no wreckage. The"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "creature was gone. All that was left was"}, {"start": "02:05:32", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "the smell and something oily in the"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "[music] grass. Now, later we learned"}, {"start": "02:05:35", "end": "02:05:39", "text": "that one of the witnesses drove his"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "truck over the area, which would explain"}, {"start": "02:05:39", "end": "02:05:43", "text": "the oil and the tracks. [music] And"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "there are sulfur springs in the area,"}, {"start": "02:05:43", "end": "02:05:47", "text": "which could explain the smell. But there"}, {"start": "02:05:45", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "still isn't a full and reasonable"}, {"start": "02:05:47", "end": "02:05:51", "text": "explanation for any of this. Whatever"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:54", "text": "was in the sky, it was important enough"}, {"start": "02:05:51", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "for the Air Force to send investigators."}, {"start": "02:05:54", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "Now, the theory about aquifers and"}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "electrical energy is interesting."}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:02", "text": "Aquifers do create energy. We covered"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:04", "text": "this a few times. We go into detail in"}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:05", "text": "the episode about the pyramid power"}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:07", "text": "plant theory."}, {"start": "02:06:05", "end": "02:06:10", "text": ">> Link to Tesla pyramid down in your"}, {"start": "02:06:07", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "pickle barrel."}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:15", "text": ">> Connecting the four cryptids together is"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:17", "text": "a stretch. The cave systems are there."}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:19", "text": "The aquifers are mostly there. There"}, {"start": "02:06:17", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "might be a pattern, though I don't see"}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:23", "text": "it. According to believers, the"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "electrical readings at these sites"}, {"start": "02:06:23", "end": "02:06:27", "text": "produce numeric sequences that shouldn't"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "be possible in nature. The implication"}, {"start": "02:06:27", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "being they're being generated by"}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:32", "text": "advanced technology."}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:34", "text": "Okay. Hey, I I love the theory, but I"}, {"start": "02:06:32", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "[music] don't see the pattern. Another"}, {"start": "02:06:34", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "theory is that these beings are"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "extradimensional. They slip into our"}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:43", "text": "world through cracks in reality created"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "by the electrical anomalies. This would"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "explain their prehistoric origins and"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:49", "text": "how they appear and disappear without a"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "trace. It kind of reminds me of the"}, {"start": "02:06:49", "end": "02:06:53", "text": "liinal spaces and the back rooms. That's"}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "still one of my favorite episodes. Back"}, {"start": "02:06:53", "end": "02:06:57", "text": "room link down in your munchbox."}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:01", "text": ">> Oh, that's that's a thing now, huh?"}, {"start": "02:06:57", "end": "02:07:03", "text": ">> Just giving the people what they want."}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "So, we can rationalize footprints as"}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:07", "text": "hoaxes or paridolia. We know most of the"}, {"start": "02:07:05", "end": "02:07:09", "text": "videos and photos are fake. This is true"}, {"start": "02:07:07", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "with just about every crypted story."}, {"start": "02:07:09", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "That's why I don't like them. But when I"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "stumbled upon the electrical connection"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "theory, I became interested. [music]"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:18", "text": "That's the kind of theory that keeps me"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "coming back because it's scientifically"}, {"start": "02:07:18", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "grounded. Electrical pun not intended."}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:25", "text": "But it's a stretch to connect cryptids"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "to electromagnetism."}, {"start": "02:07:25", "end": "02:07:30", "text": "But that's only for now. connecting"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "space and time and electromagnetism"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:34", "text": "wasn't [music] a thing 150 years ago,"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:36", "text": "but general relativity says that any"}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "form of energy can cause space-time to"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "curve. Extra dimensions also might be"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "physically proven one day. The math"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "works."}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:48", "text": "As science progresses, we'll find more"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "and more connections to things that were"}, {"start": "02:07:48", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "once considered supernatural."}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "And who knows, maybe someday someone"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "will invent a machine that can pierce"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "through our reality and show us another"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:03", "text": "reality invisible yet right in front of"}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "us. This device would be like X-ray"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "vision but for other dimensions."}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "And wouldn't it be fun if we turned on"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "that machine, looked through the lens,"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:14", "text": "and there was a family of 8ft tall hairy"}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:15", "text": "humanoids staring back at us. Without"}, {"start": "02:08:14", "end": "02:08:18", "text": "missing a beat, one of them stares at"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "the camera and says, \"We've been here"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "the whole time."}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:27", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:54", "text": ">> 3 + 1 5 plus 0 0."}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:55", "text": ">> Time to change it up a little bit. The"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "next group of cryptids come from"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "Australia. And these"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "I can't"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:10", "text": "fire extinguisher."}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:13", "text": ">> Wait, what? Uh, Australian cryptids."}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "I'll be right back."}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "Beyond the bustling modern Australian"}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "cities is the outback. It's a land"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:23", "text": "that's ancient, remote, and [music]"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "deadly."}, {"start": "02:09:23", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "Animals here evolved in isolation."}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "Marsupials with pouches. Mammals that"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "lay eggs, flightless birds that can kill"}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "with one kick. And these are just the"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:39", "text": "animals we know about. People disappear"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:41", "text": "here. Campsites torn apart, blood"}, {"start": "02:09:39", "end": "02:09:43", "text": "smeared across tree trunks, claw marks"}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:45", "text": "and footprints that don't belong to any"}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "known animal. But the locals know what"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "they are. They have stories, warnings."}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "The land doesn't just hide these"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "creatures, it protects them. And"}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "sometimes the land gets hungry and those"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "creatures have to hunt."}, {"start": "02:10:01", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "[music and bell]"}, {"start": "02:10:07", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "In the forests of eastern Australia, you"}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:14", "text": "hear the typical sounds of any forest."}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "Wind rustling through the trees, birds,"}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:20", "text": "the chatter of small animals. But"}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:22", "text": "there's a sound that stands out. Almost"}, {"start": "02:10:20", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "human. A deep growl that rattles with"}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "every breath. Aboriginal people have"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "several names for it. Dulaga, Quinkin,"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "Yahoo."}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:32", "text": ">> Yahoo."}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:34", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "02:10:32", "end": "02:10:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. All those names"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "sound like websites from the '9s. Uh uh."}, {"start": "02:10:37", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "Please go on."}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:41", "text": ">> Well, the settlers gave it a name that"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "stuck. The Yahi."}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:47", "text": ">> Yahi? They literally named it the word"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "they said when they saw it. Uh, well, I"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "guess it's better than naming it. Holy,"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "look at the size of that thing."}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:58", "text": ">> Dean Harrison tracked the Yahi for over"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:01", "text": "25 years. He interviewed hundreds of"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:04", "text": "witnesses. He had his own encounters and"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:07", "text": "the scars to prove it. Dean described it"}, {"start": "02:11:04", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "as massive, 7 to 8 ft tall, covered in"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "dark hair with broad shoulders, a sloped"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "forehead, and glowing amber eyes. It"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "also gave off a stench that made him"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:19", "text": "gag. Sweet and sickly like the smell of"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "death."}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "And uh and the yow is like nothing"}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:30", "text": "else that you could describe. And the"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:32", "text": "stink from that is just you once you"}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:35", "text": "smelt one, you'd never forget it. It's"}, {"start": "02:11:32", "end": "02:11:38", "text": "like a burnt electrical like a if you"}, {"start": "02:11:35", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "blew up a TV or a radio that burnt"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "belite electrical smell and it seems to"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "permeate everything in the area. One"}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:49", "text": "night he was attacked, thrown to the"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "ground. His ribs were bruised, his spine"}, {"start": "02:11:49", "end": "02:11:55", "text": "was injured. He still can't walk without"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "pain. But to Dean, the Yahi is no myth."}, {"start": "02:11:55", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "This is a real creature, a dangerous"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "predator, and it's been seen by people"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:06", "text": "for years. The stories show up in police"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "records, park ranger logs, modern"}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "newspaper articles, reports from just"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "outside Brisbane, the Blue Mountains,"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "dozens more from hikers and campers who"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "thought they were alone."}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "And if you've ever hiked alone in remote"}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:22", "text": "areas, you know that feeling when"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "everything goes too quiet. Dean's"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "research revealed something else. The"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:30", "text": "Yahi doesn't just attack randomly. It"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "watches. It follows. It likes to attack"}, {"start": "02:12:30", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "people who are isolated and vulnerable"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:38", "text": "miles from help. But Dean wasn't the"}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "first to track these creatures."}, {"start": "02:12:38", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "In 1882, Henry James Makoule spotted"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:48", "text": "what he called an indigenous ape on the"}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:51", "text": "New South Wales coast. 5t tall, black"}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:53", "text": "hair, red fur around the throat. Makoule"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "was so confident in what he saw, he"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "offered the Australian Museum £40 to"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:01", "text": "capture one alive. That's $4,000 in"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:04", "text": "today's money. The museum never took him"}, {"start": "02:13:01", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "up on his offer, but the sightings, they"}, {"start": "02:13:04", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "kept coming."}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": ">> The Yahi reports span decades, and"}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "they're not all from the bush."}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:25", "text": ">> Yeah, that surprises me. When you're"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "looking for something hairy, you uh you"}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:31", "text": "usually go straight for the bush. Stop"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "that. In 1977, hikers near Springbrook"}, {"start": "02:13:31", "end": "02:13:37", "text": "saw something massive watching them from"}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:39", "text": "a ridge. It was hunched, covered in red"}, {"start": "02:13:37", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "hair, and then stood upright. And then"}, {"start": "02:13:39", "end": "02:13:45", "text": "it was gone. Not out of sight, just"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "gone. All that was left was the smell."}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:51", "text": "Wet, sweet, and rotten. In 1994, a"}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "Camber man known today as Tim the Yahi"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "man was hiking alone when he stopped to"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:14:01", "text": "adjust his pack. That's when he saw it."}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "Tall, hairy. The creature stared back at"}, {"start": "02:14:01", "end": "02:14:06", "text": "him. Then it turned and disappeared into"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:10", "text": "the trees. Tim's been tracking the owi"}, {"start": "02:14:06", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "ever since. In 2009, a former SAS"}, {"start": "02:14:10", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "soldier was driving on a remote highway"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "after dark. His headlights caught"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "something crossing the road, walking"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "upright, dark fur, and moving fast. It"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "only took two strides before it"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:25", "text": "disappeared into the brush. The soldier"}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:27", "text": "didn't stop."}, {"start": "02:14:25", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "That wasn't a man. And it wasn't any"}, {"start": "02:14:27", "end": "02:14:34", "text": "animal I've ever seen. I've seen things"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "most people haven't, but not like that."}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:39", "text": "At Dalesford, Victoria, a woman was"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "sitting by a campfire. She looked up and"}, {"start": "02:14:39", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "saw a massive silhouette just 20 ft"}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:46", "text": "away. She described it as apelike,"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:49", "text": "powerful, and watching her."}, {"start": "02:14:46", "end": "02:14:52", "text": ">> It didn't growl. It didn't charge. It"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "just stood there like it was waiting."}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "That same weekend, another camper nearby"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:15:02", "text": "reported hearing branches break and"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "something pacing through the woods."}, {"start": "02:15:02", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "People said it might be a kangaroo, but"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:09", "text": "he said it was too heavy. You could feel"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:11", "text": "the steps hitting the ground."}, {"start": "02:15:09", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "Researchers logged both accounts and"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:16", "text": "hundreds more. The reports continue to"}, {"start": "02:15:14", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "pour in. Rural farmlands, suburban"}, {"start": "02:15:16", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "backyards, outer Brisbane, everywhere."}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:25", "text": "But here's what bothers researchers"}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "most. When people talk about the Yahi,"}, {"start": "02:15:25", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "they don't say they saw something. They"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "say something saw them."}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "Something deadly lives in Australia's"}, {"start": "02:15:38", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "rivers. Something hungry. Aboriginal"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:44", "text": "people call it the bunip. It means devil"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "in Wemblea."}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:48", "text": ">> Did I get knocked down? Did I get up"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "again? You're never going to keep me"}, {"start": "02:15:48", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "down. I get knocked down. What are you"}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:53", "text": "doing?"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:54", "text": ">> Here's that song by Wimblewimber."}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:56", "text": ">> That was Chumba Womba."}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:57", "text": ">> What' I say?"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:15:59", "text": ">> Anyway, [music]"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "almost every Aboriginal group has its"}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "own version of the legend. The creature"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "changes depending on the region."}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:09", "text": "Sometimes it's described like a giant"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "seal. Other times like an emu with fangs"}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "[music] and the body of a crocodile, but"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "a few details never change. It lives in"}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "deep water. It drags people under. Some"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:22", "text": "stories claim it can paralyze its"}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:24", "text": "victims with its gaze. And the last"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "thing the victims hear are the Bunyp's"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "screams."}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "The Bunip isn't just a monster. It's a"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:36", "text": "punishment. Elders say it feeds on those"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "who disrespect [music] sacred sites."}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:40", "text": "It's a guardian dragging away people who"}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:42", "text": "pollute THE WATER."}, {"start": "02:16:40", "end": "02:16:47", "text": ">> HOW DARE YOU?"}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "OH, you didn't see that coming. [music]"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:51", "text": "Around the 19th century, settlers"}, {"start": "02:16:49", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "started hearing something at night near"}, {"start": "02:16:51", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "still water. Screams and roars. The"}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "sound of something heavy surfacing. Then"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:02", "text": "livestock started going missing. People"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:06", "text": "saw huge glowing eyes watching from the"}, {"start": "02:17:02", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "reeds. [music]"}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:10", "text": "In 1846, something strange washed up"}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "along the banks of the [music] Marbiji"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "River. A skull waterlogged and"}, {"start": "02:17:13", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "weathered. It didn't belong to a cow, a"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:20", "text": "sheep, or a crocodile. [music]"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "Its jaw was too broad. Its eye sockets"}, {"start": "02:17:20", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "were too large, and its snout had a"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "strange shape. Locals brought the skull"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "to the Australian Museum in Sydney, who"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "put it on display. [music] When tribal"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "elders were invited to see it, they"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:35", "text": "looked once and pointed and they all"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "said the same word, \"Bunip.\" [music] The"}, {"start": "02:17:35", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "museum locked the skull away, and it"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "hasn't been seen since."}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "But the sounds didn't stop. From the"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:47", "text": "Murray to Brungal Creek, [music]"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "something was moving through the water"}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:51", "text": "around Murmbbiji River. Something large."}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "When more livestock was reported"}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "missing, [music]"}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "the locals knew what was happening. The"}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "bunip was back and it was hungry."}, {"start": "02:18:04", "end": "02:18:06", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:10", "text": ">> Museums don't always want the truth to"}, {"start": "02:18:09", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "get out."}, {"start": "02:18:10", "end": "02:18:14", "text": ">> Museums are just government storage"}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "units with gift shops."}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:19", "text": ">> In 1883, a group of Aboriginal men sat"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:21", "text": "around their camp at Kakatu Flat. They"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "were winding down around the fire. One"}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:25", "text": "by one, they drifted off to sleep. The"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:28", "text": "last man was about to close his eyes"}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:31", "text": "when he looked past his feet and his"}, {"start": "02:18:28", "end": "02:18:33", "text": "blood ran cold. A huge pair of wide set"}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "yellow eyes stared at him from the"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "trees. At first, he thought the fire was"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "playing tricks on him. Then the eyes"}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:42", "text": "moved. Branches snapped. He heard"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:45", "text": "rustling. Before the man could utter a"}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:47", "text": "word, the bunip had crept to the edge of"}, {"start": "02:18:45", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "their camp."}, {"start": "02:18:47", "end": "02:18:52", "text": "It was massive. Its body was covered in"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:55", "text": "short, prickly hair like a porcupine. It"}, {"start": "02:18:52", "end": "02:18:58", "text": "had a long, thick tail. Its pale yellow"}, {"start": "02:18:55", "end": "02:19:00", "text": "eyes were locked and unblinking. It had"}, {"start": "02:18:58", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "a long beak full of pointed teeth and"}, {"start": "02:19:00", "end": "02:19:05", "text": "two large tusks. It roared and charged,"}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:08", "text": "but the creature tripped on something"}, {"start": "02:19:05", "end": "02:19:11", "text": "and stumbled just long enough for the"}, {"start": "02:19:08", "end": "02:19:13", "text": "men to run for their lives. Some ran for"}, {"start": "02:19:11", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "miles. They never again went back to"}, {"start": "02:19:13", "end": "02:19:18", "text": "that place."}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "Months later, Henry Wilkinson was"}, {"start": "02:19:18", "end": "02:19:22", "text": "walking along the banks of Brungle"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:24", "text": "Creek. The seasonal flooding had"}, {"start": "02:19:22", "end": "02:19:27", "text": "receded, and as he walked, something"}, {"start": "02:19:24", "end": "02:19:30", "text": "caught his eye. A carcass. something"}, {"start": "02:19:27", "end": "02:19:32", "text": "huge with a thick tail and hair like a"}, {"start": "02:19:30", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "porcupine."}, {"start": "02:19:32", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "A local newspaper published the story"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:37", "text": "and this caught the attention of the"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:38", "text": "Sydney Museum."}, {"start": "02:19:37", "end": "02:19:40", "text": ">> Uh-oh."}, {"start": "02:19:38", "end": "02:19:42", "text": ">> They asked Henry Wilkinson to send them"}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:43", "text": "the remains so they could study it."}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:45", "text": ">> Don't do it, Hank."}, {"start": "02:19:43", "end": "02:19:48", "text": ">> Wilkinson agreed and sent the creature"}, {"start": "02:19:45", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "to the Sydney Museum. The museum said"}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "the package never arrived and it was"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "never seen again."}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:02", "text": "Deep in Australia's wilderness, there's"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:05", "text": "a creature you'll never hear coming. It"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:08", "text": "doesn't stalk. It doesn't howl. High in"}, {"start": "02:20:05", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "the branches of fig trees, it sits"}, {"start": "02:20:08", "end": "02:20:15", "text": "motionless, watching and waiting."}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "It's called the Yara mahu. It's small,"}, {"start": "02:20:15", "end": "02:20:21", "text": "red, hairless. Its body is squat, kind"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "of like a frog. Its fingers have suckers"}, {"start": "02:20:21", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "like an octopus. Its skin is wet,"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:29", "text": "wrinkled, and the color of raw meat,"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:31", "text": "like an animal turned inside out. Its"}, {"start": "02:20:29", "end": "02:20:34", "text": "head looks too big for its body. Its"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:37", "text": "black eyes never blink. Where a mouth"}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:39", "text": "should be, there's just a wide fleshy"}, {"start": "02:20:37", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "circle. When you stop to rest beneath"}, {"start": "02:20:39", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "its tree, the yamyahu drops. No sound,"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "no warning. It attaches its suckers to"}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "your skin, pierces it, and drinks your"}, {"start": "02:20:48", "end": "02:20:54", "text": "blood. But it does it slowly. Not enough"}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "to kill you. Just enough to control you."}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:58", "text": ">> This sounds like the worst hickey ever."}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:00", "text": ">> Then it swallows you whole."}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:02", "text": ">> My analysis sts."}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:05", "text": ">> But it doesn't digest you. After a few"}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:08", "text": "hours, it regurgitates you. You're still"}, {"start": "02:21:05", "end": "02:21:11", "text": "alive, but different. You're smaller."}, {"start": "02:21:08", "end": "02:21:13", "text": "Your skin is a little more red, a little"}, {"start": "02:21:11", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "more like the thing that took you. If it"}, {"start": "02:21:13", "end": "02:21:18", "text": "happens again, the changes continue."}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "victims become even smaller, even"}, {"start": "02:21:18", "end": "02:21:25", "text": "redder. This isn't just an attack for"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "food. It's how it reproduces."}, {"start": "02:21:25", "end": "02:21:29", "text": "In the Blue Mountains, a boy disappeared"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:31", "text": "from a school field trip near a fig"}, {"start": "02:21:29", "end": "02:21:34", "text": "grove. Search teams found him the next"}, {"start": "02:21:31", "end": "02:21:36", "text": "day, curled beneath a tree. His skin was"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:39", "text": "red, and within days, he stopped playing"}, {"start": "02:21:36", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "and making eye contact. Within a week,"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:43", "text": "he stopped speaking."}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "In Queensland, a woman returned from a"}, {"start": "02:21:43", "end": "02:21:48", "text": "hike 3 days late. Her skin was"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:51", "text": "blistered, but she wasn't upset. She was"}, {"start": "02:21:48", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "quiet. Over the next few weeks, she"}, {"start": "02:21:51", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "withdrew. She stopped talking to people,"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:58", "text": "stopped taking calls. Then one day, she"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "packed her things and was never seen"}, {"start": "02:21:58", "end": "02:22:03", "text": "again. But here's what makes the"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:04", "text": "Arammyahu different from other cryptids."}, {"start": "02:22:03", "end": "02:22:07", "text": "The victims don't just come back"}, {"start": "02:22:04", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "changed. They come back missing time."}, {"start": "02:22:07", "end": "02:22:11", "text": "The boy in the mountains couldn't"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "account for 6 hours. The woman in"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:16", "text": "Queensland lost 3 days."}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:19", "text": "Every fig tree in Australia could be"}, {"start": "02:22:16", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "hiding something red and hungry and"}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:24", "text": "completely still. It doesn't hunt. It"}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "doesn't chase. It waits. It waits for"}, {"start": "02:22:24", "end": "02:22:29", "text": "animals. It waits for people. It waits"}, {"start": "02:22:27", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "for anything that decides which tree"}, {"start": "02:22:29", "end": "02:22:33", "text": "would be a nice spot to rest and get out"}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:35", "text": "of the sun. And once you're relaxed,"}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "you'll feel a pinch somewhere on your"}, {"start": "02:22:35", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "body. And then everything goes black."}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:46", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:48", "text": ">> Australia is dangerous enough without"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "cryptids. That continent is constantly"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "trying to kill you. The saltwater"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:55", "text": "crocodile is an apex predator that"}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "targets humans in northern Australia."}, {"start": "02:22:55", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "The eastern brown snake is the deadliest"}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "snake on the continent. It's highly"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "venomous, fast, and likes to live near"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:07", "text": "people. The coastal Taipan snake is even"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:11", "text": "faster and among the most venomous"}, {"start": "02:23:07", "end": "02:23:13", "text": "snakes on Earth."}, {"start": "02:23:11", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "The funnel web spider is aggressive,"}, {"start": "02:23:13", "end": "02:23:17", "text": "highly venomous, and famous for its"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:19", "text": "painful bite. And if you do get bit by a"}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "funnel web spider, you better hope"}, {"start": "02:23:19", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "there's a hospital nearby with a decent"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:26", "text": "supply of antivenenom, because you're"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:27", "text": "now in an emergency situation. In the"}, {"start": "02:23:26", "end": "02:23:30", "text": "water off Australia, you've got great"}, {"start": "02:23:27", "end": "02:23:33", "text": "white sharks. You've got box jellyfish,"}, {"start": "02:23:30", "end": "02:23:35", "text": "where one sting can cause cardiac"}, {"start": "02:23:33", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "arrest. The blue ring octopus packs a"}, {"start": "02:23:35", "end": "02:23:39", "text": "neurotoxin [music]"}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "that causes paralysis and respiratory"}, {"start": "02:23:39", "end": "02:23:45", "text": "failure. There's no known antivenenom."}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:47", "text": "Even Australian snails are dangerous."}, {"start": "02:23:45", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "The cone snail has a venomous harpoon"}, {"start": "02:23:47", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "that can kill a human in minutes. Locals"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "call it the cigarette snail because you"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "only have time for one smoke before you"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "die. Those animals are all real. But"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:03", "text": "what about Australia's cryptids?"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:05", "text": "Well, if you follow this channel, you"}, {"start": "02:24:03", "end": "02:24:07", "text": "know that I don't like to cover cryptids"}, {"start": "02:24:05", "end": "02:24:09", "text": "because there's never any good evidence."}, {"start": "02:24:07", "end": "02:24:11", "text": "There's never any good photos or videos."}, {"start": "02:24:09", "end": "02:24:13", "text": "Same goes for all the creatures we"}, {"start": "02:24:11", "end": "02:24:15", "text": "talked about today. There's no hard"}, {"start": "02:24:13", "end": "02:24:17", "text": "evidence for any of them. So, what's"}, {"start": "02:24:15", "end": "02:24:19", "text": "really happening? The Yahi sounds like a"}, {"start": "02:24:17", "end": "02:24:21", "text": "creature we see all over the world."}, {"start": "02:24:19", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "Bigfoot [music] in the US, the Yeti in"}, {"start": "02:24:21", "end": "02:24:24", "text": "the Himalayas, Canadians have the"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:26", "text": "Sasquatch,"}, {"start": "02:24:24", "end": "02:24:29", "text": ">> Sasquatch. Thousands of reported"}, {"start": "02:24:26", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "sightings, many from credible people,"}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:34", "text": "rangers, veterans, police officers. Some"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:36", "text": "accounts are detailed, some are"}, {"start": "02:24:34", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "compelling, but just like Bigfoot"}, {"start": "02:24:36", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "stories, when you look closely, they"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:43", "text": "don't really hold up. Footprints are too"}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "vague. Hair turns out to be possum, dog,"}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "or human. Dean Harrison's Yahi story is"}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:51", "text": "inconsistent. In some versions, he's"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:53", "text": "attacked running away from a Yahi. In"}, {"start": "02:24:51", "end": "02:24:56", "text": "others, he's attacked while tracking it."}, {"start": "02:24:53", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "And when stories change, you have to"}, {"start": "02:24:56", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "question them."}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:02", "text": ">> Or maybe maybe when a giant hair rape"}, {"start": "02:25:00", "end": "02:25:04", "text": "throws you into a tree, your memory gets"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "a little fuzzy. You ever think of that,"}, {"start": "02:25:04", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "huh? It's called PBFASD."}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:11", "text": "Post Bigfoot attack stress disorder."}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:13", "text": "Human, look it up."}, {"start": "02:25:11", "end": "02:25:16", "text": ">> But the Bunip is different. Unlike the"}, {"start": "02:25:13", "end": "02:25:18", "text": "owie, it never had one form. It changes"}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "from region to region. It just became a"}, {"start": "02:25:18", "end": "02:25:22", "text": "catch-all for any people disappearing"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "near water. Sometimes it has feathers."}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "[music] Sometimes it's reptilian."}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:28", "text": ">> Reptilians are shapeshifters."}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:30", "text": ">> Do they drag people underwater?"}, {"start": "02:25:28", "end": "02:25:32", "text": ">> Yeah. No, they they they prefer to eat"}, {"start": "02:25:30", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "human souls from the moon."}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:37", "text": ">> But here's what bothers me about the"}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "bunip evidence. The skull was displayed"}, {"start": "02:25:37", "end": "02:25:42", "text": "in a museum for 2 days. Elders"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:44", "text": "identified it as a bunip. Experts said"}, {"start": "02:25:42", "end": "02:25:47", "text": "it was a deformed calf. Either way, it"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "vanished. So did that package of the"}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:53", "text": "remains of another bun."}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:55", "text": "Look, I don't trust museums. And when"}, {"start": "02:25:53", "end": "02:25:58", "text": "museums get a hold of inconvenient"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:25:58", "text": "evidence, that evidence tends to"}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "disappear."}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:03", "text": ">> Yeah, you're right about that. Just ask"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:06", "text": "the Smithsonian about uh giant human"}, {"start": "02:26:03", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "skeletons, Viking artifacts in North"}, {"start": "02:26:06", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "America, uh Egyptian artifacts in the"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:13", "text": "Grand Canyon,"}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:14", "text": ">> right? The Yarau is easier to explain."}, {"start": "02:26:13", "end": "02:26:17", "text": "It's a myth that's been told to children"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:20", "text": "for generations by indigenous tribes."}, {"start": "02:26:17", "end": "02:26:22", "text": "It's a warning. Stay with the tribe."}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:24", "text": "Don't wander off alone. It's caution"}, {"start": "02:26:22", "end": "02:26:26", "text": "wrapped in a horror story. Now, some"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:29", "text": "people laugh at stories meant to scare"}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:31", "text": "children. But many fairy tales are based"}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:34", "text": "on fear. They're designed to frighten us"}, {"start": "02:26:31", "end": "02:26:36", "text": "to activate our survival instincts."}, {"start": "02:26:34", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "Hansel and Gretle, don't wander too far."}, {"start": "02:26:36", "end": "02:26:41", "text": "Little Red Riding Hood, don't talk to"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "strangers. Dozens more fairy tales have"}, {"start": "02:26:41", "end": "02:26:44", "text": "lessons just like this."}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:46", "text": ">> Oh, like don't trust the media."}, {"start": "02:26:44", "end": "02:26:48", "text": ">> What fairy tale is that?"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:50", "text": ">> Oh, no. No. That's not a fairy tale."}, {"start": "02:26:48", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "It's a true story. It just seemed like a"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:54", "text": "good time to remind everyone."}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:56", "text": ">> These cryptids probably don't exist, but"}, {"start": "02:26:54", "end": "02:26:59", "text": "if you're alone in the outback, the"}, {"start": "02:26:56", "end": "02:27:02", "text": "danger is real. The silence that feels"}, {"start": "02:26:59", "end": "02:27:04", "text": "like it's listening is real. That shadow"}, {"start": "02:27:02", "end": "02:27:06", "text": "that moves at the edge of your sight,"}, {"start": "02:27:04", "end": "02:27:08", "text": "that's real, [music] too. Dismiss these"}, {"start": "02:27:06", "end": "02:27:10", "text": "legends at your own risk. Because in the"}, {"start": "02:27:08", "end": "02:27:12", "text": "Australian wilderness, ignoring the"}, {"start": "02:27:10", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "[music] lessons and the wisdom in these"}, {"start": "02:27:12", "end": "02:27:18", "text": "ancient stories might be the last"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:18", "text": "mistake you ever make."}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:25", "text": "5 plus 0."}, {"start": "02:27:23", "end": "02:27:27", "text": ">> Should I even bother? Ah,"}, {"start": "02:27:25", "end": "02:27:29", "text": ">> human. And there it is. The alien craft"}, {"start": "02:27:27", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "has departed. My perimeter defense"}, {"start": "02:27:29", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "worked like a charm."}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:36", "text": ">> Your defense system cut off half the"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:38", "text": "power to the city. And that UFO circling"}, {"start": "02:27:36", "end": "02:27:40", "text": "was an Amazon delivery drone."}, {"start": "02:27:38", "end": "02:27:40", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what they want you to"}, {"start": "02:27:40", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "think."}, {"start": "02:27:40", "end": "02:27:44", "text": ">> It said Amazon Prime on it, and it was"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "delivering a package to you."}, {"start": "02:27:44", "end": "02:27:49", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I ordered a new UFO detection"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "kit to replace this one. Uh, where's the"}, {"start": "02:27:49", "end": "02:27:51", "text": "package now?"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:54", "text": ">> You destroyed it."}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:57", "text": ">> A new UFO detection kit destroyed by an"}, {"start": "02:27:54", "end": "02:27:58", "text": "old UFO detection kit. Uh, is that"}, {"start": "02:27:57", "end": "02:28:00", "text": "irony?"}, {"start": "02:27:58", "end": "02:28:01", "text": ">> You also destroyed Mr. Fefficorn's"}, {"start": "02:28:00", "end": "02:28:04", "text": "pacemaker."}, {"start": "02:28:01", "end": "02:28:06", "text": ">> No, he'll be fine. Mr. Fefficorn has"}, {"start": "02:28:04", "end": "02:28:07", "text": "been clinically dead twice and he still"}, {"start": "02:28:06", "end": "02:28:08", "text": "does his own yard work."}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:10", "text": ">> He's still in the ICU."}, {"start": "02:28:08", "end": "02:28:11", "text": ">> Yeah, I'll send him some flowers."}, {"start": "02:28:10", "end": "02:28:13", "text": ">> Great."}, {"start": "02:28:11", "end": "02:28:16", "text": ">> Hey, can I borrow 50 bucks for flowers?"}, {"start": "02:28:13", "end": "02:28:18", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "Next episode and last episode, thank"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "goodness, is about the mantis man."}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "Fishing in the Mscon River, Brian"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:38", "text": "Richtor stopped midcast. Something was"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "wrong. The birds stopped singing."}, {"start": "02:28:38", "end": "02:28:45", "text": "Insects stopped buzzing. The forest was"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:45", "text": "suddenly quiet. Too quiet."}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:52", "text": "Then he felt it. Eyes on his back."}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "Someone or something was watching him."}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:58", "text": "Brian turned slowly. At first he saw"}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:29:00", "text": "nothing. Then movement caught his eye."}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "Between the trees stood something"}, {"start": "02:29:00", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "impossible. 7t tall at least, long, thin"}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:09", "text": "limbs, a triangular head with large"}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:10", "text": "black eyes. Brian thought it looked like"}, {"start": "02:29:09", "end": "02:29:13", "text": "an insect, but it would be the biggest"}, {"start": "02:29:10", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "insect he'd ever seen. and it was"}, {"start": "02:29:13", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "staring right at him. Brian froze. Then"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:22", "text": "something strange happened. He felt the"}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "creature in his mind reading his"}, {"start": "02:29:22", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "thoughts. Somehow he knew this creature"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:30", "text": "was intelligent. Then the being became"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:33", "text": "transparent and faded away. It didn't"}, {"start": "02:29:30", "end": "02:29:35", "text": "move. It just vanished. The forest"}, {"start": "02:29:33", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "remained silent. [music]"}, {"start": "02:29:35", "end": "02:29:39", "text": "Brian quickly packed his gear. It was"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:41", "text": "time to go. He couldn't see it, but he"}, {"start": "02:29:39", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "knew the creature was still there"}, {"start": "02:29:41", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "somewhere. And there were more of them."}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "A lot more."}, {"start": "02:29:57", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "The Miscons"}, {"start": "02:29:59", "end": "02:30:04", "text": "in northern New Jersey. It winds 45"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:06", "text": "miles through the Appalachian Mountains"}, {"start": "02:30:04", "end": "02:30:09", "text": "until it empties into the Delaware. The"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:12", "text": "river looks ordinary, but locals know"}, {"start": "02:30:09", "end": "02:30:13", "text": "better."}, {"start": "02:30:12", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "For years, people living around the"}, {"start": "02:30:13", "end": "02:30:19", "text": "Mscon River have reported strange"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:21", "text": "encounters. Moth man, Sasquatch, UFOs,"}, {"start": "02:30:19", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "ghost lights, and all kinds of"}, {"start": "02:30:21", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "unexplained phenomena. And then there's"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:30", "text": "the Mantis Man. The first documented"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:32", "text": "Mantis Man sighting came in 2006. Paul"}, {"start": "02:30:30", "end": "02:30:34", "text": "Jax was fly fishing when he felt a"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:36", "text": "strange vibration in his right ear. He"}, {"start": "02:30:34", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "turned and saw something standing on the"}, {"start": "02:30:36", "end": "02:30:43", "text": "bank. Not an animal, not a person, a"}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:46", "text": "7-ft tall mantis-like creature watching"}, {"start": "02:30:43", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "him."}, {"start": "02:30:46", "end": "02:30:51", "text": "I was just high in the river. The first"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:54", "text": "thing I saw was this grasshopper thigh,"}, {"start": "02:30:51", "end": "02:30:56", "text": "but bending forward like a human, then"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:58", "text": "the whole form. It was looking at me"}, {"start": "02:30:56", "end": "02:31:01", "text": "over its shoulder moving up the bank."}, {"start": "02:30:58", "end": "02:31:04", "text": "Astonished, amazed. The creature had a"}, {"start": "02:31:01", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "triangular head, massive black eyes, and"}, {"start": "02:31:04", "end": "02:31:09", "text": "a gangly body, just like a prey mantis."}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "But this wasn't just a large insect. It"}, {"start": "02:31:09", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "had humanoid features, a thinking being."}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:16", "text": "When Paul locked eyes with it, he sensed"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:18", "text": "the mantis was surprised he could see"}, {"start": "02:31:16", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "it. The creature turned, started"}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:22", "text": "walking, then simply vanished. Paul"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:25", "text": "didn't think it slipped into another"}, {"start": "02:31:22", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "dimension. He believed it was cloaked,"}, {"start": "02:31:25", "end": "02:31:29", "text": "accidentally visible for just those few"}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "seconds. Paul stayed quiet about his"}, {"start": "02:31:29", "end": "02:31:36", "text": "encounter for years. Then he learned he"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "wasn't alone. In 2011, Joe Pari was"}, {"start": "02:31:36", "end": "02:31:39", "text": "fishing with his brother when he heard"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "humming and felt tingling throughout his"}, {"start": "02:31:39", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "body. He turned to find a 7-ft tall,"}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "dark brown humanoid mantis staring down"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:50", "text": "at him. The being had visible mandibles"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:52", "text": "moving up and down like it was eating"}, {"start": "02:31:50", "end": "02:31:55", "text": "something. Joe froze with fear as he"}, {"start": "02:31:52", "end": "02:31:57", "text": "locked eyes with the creature. Then Joe"}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:32:00", "text": "felt the mantis pulling information from"}, {"start": "02:31:57", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "his mind telepathically, not just"}, {"start": "02:32:00", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "reading thoughts, extracting memories,"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "learning his fears, his hopes, learning"}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "everything. Then a thick fog rolled in."}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "The mantis spread its arms and extended"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "a huge set of wings, a display of power."}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "Then it vanished into the mist. Joe"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:21", "text": "collapsed, overwhelmed with fear. In"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:24", "text": "2014, a driver crossing a bridge over"}, {"start": "02:32:21", "end": "02:32:27", "text": "the Mscon saw a dark figure in the"}, {"start": "02:32:24", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "river. He slowed down for a closer look."}, {"start": "02:32:27", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "It was brown, nearly 8 ft tall with thin"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:33", "text": "arms. And before he could process what"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:36", "text": "he was seeing, the being became"}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "transparent and disappeared. There were"}, {"start": "02:32:36", "end": "02:32:40", "text": "lots of other sightings, too, but most"}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:44", "text": "were from a distance. But Paul Jax and"}, {"start": "02:32:40", "end": "02:32:46", "text": "Joe Parent saw the mantis man up close."}, {"start": "02:32:44", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "Both described the same creature in the"}, {"start": "02:32:46", "end": "02:32:50", "text": "same location. Neither knew about the"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:53", "text": "other's encounter, yet their stories"}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "match exactly."}, {"start": "02:32:53", "end": "02:32:59", "text": "First, you hear humming. Then, you feel"}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "a vibration. The forest goes silent."}, {"start": "02:32:59", "end": "02:33:05", "text": "Then, you start to feel strange. You"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:07", "text": "might not see it, but a mantis is close."}, {"start": "02:33:05", "end": "02:33:09", "text": "It can manipulate your perception,"}, {"start": "02:33:07", "end": "02:33:12", "text": "paralyze your body, and once you're"}, {"start": "02:33:09", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "powerless to resist, it can penetrate"}, {"start": "02:33:12", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "your mind."}, {"start": "02:33:19", "end": "02:33:24", "text": "When a mantis man appears, it changes"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "everything around it. The forest goes"}, {"start": "02:33:24", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "quiet. Electronics malfunction. Time"}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "seems to slow down. But the most"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "disturbing effect happens inside your"}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:36", "text": "mind."}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "Lon Strickler, a paranormal researcher,"}, {"start": "02:33:36", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "has documented dozens of mantis man"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "encounters since 2006. The physical and"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:46", "text": "psychological effects on witnesses"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "follow a consistent pattern. First comes"}, {"start": "02:33:46", "end": "02:33:51", "text": "the humming. A low vibration felt more"}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:53", "text": "than heard. Then a strange tingling"}, {"start": "02:33:51", "end": "02:33:55", "text": "sensation spreads throughout the body."}, {"start": "02:33:53", "end": "02:33:57", "text": "Many witnesses report feeling their hair"}, {"start": "02:33:55", "end": "02:34:00", "text": "standing on end like static electricity"}, {"start": "02:33:57", "end": "02:34:04", "text": "building up all around them. Then"}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:06", "text": "something is in your mind."}, {"start": "02:34:04", "end": "02:34:09", "text": "It wasn't just that I could see it. I"}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:12", "text": "could feel it looking into me. Not at"}, {"start": "02:34:09", "end": "02:34:14", "text": "me. into me. It knew things about me I'd"}, {"start": "02:34:12", "end": "02:34:16", "text": "never told anyone. Memories from when I"}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:18", "text": "was a kid. Things I was afraid of. I"}, {"start": "02:34:16", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "didn't hear words exactly, but I"}, {"start": "02:34:18", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "understood what it wanted. This"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "telepathic intrusion is reported by"}, {"start": "02:34:24", "end": "02:34:28", "text": "nearly all witnesses who get within 20"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:30", "text": "yards of a mantis entity. The creature"}, {"start": "02:34:28", "end": "02:34:33", "text": "seems capable of extracting information"}, {"start": "02:34:30", "end": "02:34:35", "text": "directly from human minds. Some"}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:37", "text": "witnesses describe it as having your"}, {"start": "02:34:35", "end": "02:34:38", "text": "brain scanned or someone flipping"}, {"start": "02:34:37", "end": "02:34:40", "text": "through the pages of your [music]"}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:42", "text": "thoughts. This effect isn't always"}, {"start": "02:34:40", "end": "02:34:44", "text": "threatening. Several witnesses report"}, {"start": "02:34:42", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "feeling a strange calm during the"}, {"start": "02:34:44", "end": "02:34:49", "text": "encounter. A sense of communication,"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:51", "text": "understanding, but this feeling vanishes"}, {"start": "02:34:49", "end": "02:34:53", "text": "when the creature does. The feeling of"}, {"start": "02:34:51", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "calm is quickly replaced by confusion"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "and fear."}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "Electronic devices often malfunction"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:03", "text": "during these encounters. [music] Cameras"}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:05", "text": "stop working. Cell phones die. Watches"}, {"start": "02:35:03", "end": "02:35:08", "text": "run backward. One fisherman's battery"}, {"start": "02:35:05", "end": "02:35:10", "text": "powered depth finder exploded moments"}, {"start": "02:35:08", "end": "02:35:12", "text": "before a man disappeared beside [music]"}, {"start": "02:35:10", "end": "02:35:14", "text": "his boat. And there may be a scientific"}, {"start": "02:35:12", "end": "02:35:17", "text": "explanation for these events. The"}, {"start": "02:35:14", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "Muskanakan River runs near several fault"}, {"start": "02:35:17", "end": "02:35:21", "text": "systems. Some researchers suggest"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "[music] that fault lines can create"}, {"start": "02:35:21", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "unusual electromagnetic fields. NASA"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:29", "text": "calls them X points or electron"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:31", "text": "diffusion regions. At these locations,"}, {"start": "02:35:29", "end": "02:35:34", "text": "the Earth's magnetic field connects with"}, {"start": "02:35:31", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "the Sun's magnetic field, creating a"}, {"start": "02:35:34", "end": "02:35:39", "text": "temporary portal where charged particles"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:41", "text": "can flow between the two. The Muscon"}, {"start": "02:35:39", "end": "02:35:44", "text": "River might be more than just a spooky"}, {"start": "02:35:41", "end": "02:35:46", "text": "fishing spot. It might be a doorway, and"}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "something intelligent and powerful lives"}, {"start": "02:35:46", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "on the other side."}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "According to witness reports, there are"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:55", "text": "dozens of different alien species living"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "on Earth. They are aware of each other."}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "Some are allies, some are enemies, but"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:03", "text": "they all exist in a complex hierarchy, a"}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:05", "text": "pyramid of power. At the top of the"}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "pyramid is a species more powerful than"}, {"start": "02:36:05", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "all the rest. The mantis entities are"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "not here to visit. They are not here to"}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "observe. The mantis are here to rule."}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:26", "text": "The mantis beings aren't just appearing"}, {"start": "02:36:24", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "on river banks in New Jersey. They're"}, {"start": "02:36:26", "end": "02:36:31", "text": "showing up in people's cars, in remote"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "cabins, in their bedrooms, and those"}, {"start": "02:36:31", "end": "02:36:36", "text": "people are being taken."}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "You might remember the episode I did on"}, {"start": "02:36:36", "end": "02:36:40", "text": "the Terry Love Lace abduction story."}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "I'll link to it below, but here's a"}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:44", "text": "quick recap. Terry and a friend went"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:46", "text": "camping at Devil's Den State Park in"}, {"start": "02:36:44", "end": "02:36:48", "text": "Arkansas. In the middle of the night,"}, {"start": "02:36:46", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "they were taken aboard a spacecraft."}, {"start": "02:36:48", "end": "02:36:54", "text": "Inside, Terry was paralyzed, but awake"}, {"start": "02:36:51", "end": "02:36:55", "text": "and strapped to a medical table. On the"}, {"start": "02:36:54", "end": "02:36:58", "text": "ship, he saw several different types of"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "aliens. The typical small gray aliens"}, {"start": "02:36:58", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "were there, but they weren't in charge."}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:06", "text": "They worked for the [music] mantis."}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:09", "text": ">> There was a mantis-like being with a"}, {"start": "02:37:06", "end": "02:37:12", "text": "triangular head and huge slanted black"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:14", "text": "eyes. It had an insect type mouth. I was"}, {"start": "02:37:12", "end": "02:37:17", "text": "screaming. It turned a guy close to my"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:19", "text": "head and I could hear him clearly in my"}, {"start": "02:37:17", "end": "02:37:21", "text": "mind like any spoken word. He was"}, {"start": "02:37:19", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "annoyed. He said, \"Why are you"}, {"start": "02:37:21", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "screaming? Stop screaming. You know we"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "don't hurt you. We take you back. Stop"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "screaming.\""}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:32", "text": ">> Terry's experience isn't unique. In"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "thousands of documented alien abduction"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:36", "text": "cases from all over the world,"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:39", "text": "mantis-like entities appear again and"}, {"start": "02:37:36", "end": "02:37:41", "text": "again. They're described as 7 to 8 ft"}, {"start": "02:37:39", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "tall with triangular heads. They have"}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:47", "text": "large black eyes and thin insect-l like"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:49", "text": "bodies covered in an exoskeleton."}, {"start": "02:37:47", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "Abductees consistently report that these"}, {"start": "02:37:49", "end": "02:37:53", "text": "mantis beings seem [music] to be in"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "positions of authority. Whitley"}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "Strieber, author of Communion, described"}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "mantis beings as engineers or scientists"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "who directed smaller gray aliens, just"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:05", "text": "like Terry Loveace claimed. Other"}, {"start": "02:38:04", "end": "02:38:08", "text": "abductees describe [music] them as"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:11", "text": "doctors or officers who oversee medical"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:13", "text": "procedures and genetic sampling. The"}, {"start": "02:38:11", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "stories are consistent. People who have"}, {"start": "02:38:13", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "never met from different cultures,"}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "countries, and backgrounds describe the"}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "same beings with the same temperament"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:25", "text": "and same role. They're cold,"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "calculating, intelligent, and efficient."}, {"start": "02:38:25", "end": "02:38:28", "text": "They communicate telepathically. They"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "can control human movement with a"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "gesture. [music] They appear to be"}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:36", "text": "studying us. and they've been watching"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:39", "text": "us for a long, long time."}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:41", "text": "Dr. John Mack was a Harvard psychiatrist"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:44", "text": "[music] and Puliter Prizewinning author."}, {"start": "02:38:41", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "In 1995, he published research on alien"}, {"start": "02:38:44", "end": "02:38:49", "text": "abduction cases. He found that patients"}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:51", "text": "with no history of mental illness were"}, {"start": "02:38:49", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "reporting nearly identical encounters"}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "with these [music] beings. The"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:56", "text": "descriptions were too similar to"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:38:58", "text": "dismiss."}, {"start": "02:38:56", "end": "02:39:01", "text": "Early cave paintings like those found in"}, {"start": "02:38:58", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "the Algerian Zahara dating back 8,000"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:06", "text": "years show mantis headed figures. The"}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "Koisen tribe of Africa has depicted"}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "mantis-like beings in their rock art for"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "thousands of years. Whatever these"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:15", "text": "entities are, they've been watching us"}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:16", "text": "for a very long time. And according to"}, {"start": "02:39:15", "end": "02:39:19", "text": "people who have encountered them, the"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:21", "text": "mantis aren't just passive observers."}, {"start": "02:39:19", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "They have an agenda, a plan they've been"}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:26", "text": "working on for centuries. The"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:28", "text": "petroglyphs in Iran, the rock art in"}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:30", "text": "Africa, Native American legends, the"}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:33", "text": "symbols in Egypt, they all tell the same"}, {"start": "02:39:30", "end": "02:39:36", "text": "story. A story about visitors from the"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:39", "text": "stars who shaped human history from the"}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:39", "text": "very beginning."}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "The story of mantis beings observing"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:51", "text": "humanity isn't new. It's one of the"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:55", "text": "oldest stories in the world. So old it's"}, {"start": "02:39:51", "end": "02:39:58", "text": "written in stone."}, {"start": "02:39:55", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "In 2018, researchers in Iran discovered"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:02", "text": "a remarkable petetroglyph carved into a"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:05", "text": "rock at Tamura. [music] It shows a sick"}, {"start": "02:40:02", "end": "02:40:06", "text": "slim figure with a triangular head."}, {"start": "02:40:05", "end": "02:40:09", "text": "Entomologists believe it depicts a"}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:13", "text": "preying mantis. Archaeologists dated it"}, {"start": "02:40:09", "end": "02:40:16", "text": "between 4,000 and 40,000 years old. The"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "figure has a humanoid quality. Not quite"}, {"start": "02:40:16", "end": "02:40:21", "text": "insect, not quite person. It's both. And"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "this isn't the only ancient mantis"}, {"start": "02:40:21", "end": "02:40:26", "text": "depiction. Son people in southern Africa"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:28", "text": "have portrayed mantis-headed figures in"}, {"start": "02:40:26", "end": "02:40:31", "text": "their rock art for thousands of years."}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "To them, the mantis is a creator god who"}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "helped shape the world. Dr. Roger"}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:37", "text": "Miller, an anthropologist who"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:40", "text": "specializes in prehistoric art, notes a"}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:43", "text": "pattern."}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:45", "text": "These mantis figures appear in isolated"}, {"start": "02:40:43", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "cultures that had no contact with each"}, {"start": "02:40:45", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "other. The son people of Africa, ancient"}, {"start": "02:40:48", "end": "02:40:54", "text": "Mesopotamians, and even early Egyptian"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:55", "text": "texts all depict similar beings. The"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:40:57", "text": "question isn't whether these cultures"}, {"start": "02:40:55", "end": "02:41:00", "text": "saw something. [music] The question is"}, {"start": "02:40:57", "end": "02:41:02", "text": "what exactly were they seen?"}, {"start": "02:41:00", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "The ancient Egyptians depicted"}, {"start": "02:41:02", "end": "02:41:06", "text": "mantis-like entities in the Book of the"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "Dead. They served as underworld guides"}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "who led souls to judgment. These beings"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "are consistently portrayed not as"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:18", "text": "animals or insects but as intelligent"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:20", "text": "entities with power and purpose."}, {"start": "02:41:18", "end": "02:41:22", "text": "Even the word mantis reveals something"}, {"start": "02:41:20", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "[music] interesting. It comes from the"}, {"start": "02:41:22", "end": "02:41:27", "text": "ancient Greek word mantis meaning"}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:30", "text": "prophet or seer. Someone who could see"}, {"start": "02:41:27", "end": "02:41:32", "text": "things others can't. In Native American"}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "traditions, especially tribes in the"}, {"start": "02:41:32", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "southwest, there are stories of"}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "insectlike beings who came from the sky."}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:42", "text": "The hopes speak of kacina spirits, some"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "depicted with mantis-like features. They"}, {"start": "02:41:42", "end": "02:41:47", "text": "served as messengers between humans and"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:49", "text": "the gods. Modern encounters with mantis"}, {"start": "02:41:47", "end": "02:41:51", "text": "entities share striking similarities"}, {"start": "02:41:49", "end": "02:41:53", "text": "with these ancient stories. The beings"}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:56", "text": "are described as emotionless, highly"}, {"start": "02:41:53", "end": "02:41:58", "text": "intelligent, and possessing abilities"}, {"start": "02:41:56", "end": "02:41:59", "text": "beyond human comprehension. They"}, {"start": "02:41:58", "end": "02:42:02", "text": "communicate without speaking. They"}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:04", "text": "appear and disappear at will. The"}, {"start": "02:42:02", "end": "02:42:06", "text": "consistency across time and cultures"}, {"start": "02:42:04", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "suggests something more than a"}, {"start": "02:42:06", "end": "02:42:10", "text": "coincidence. Either humans across the"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "globe independently invented the same"}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:15", "text": "fictional entity with the same physical"}, {"start": "02:42:13", "end": "02:42:17", "text": "characteristics and behavior, or these"}, {"start": "02:42:15", "end": "02:42:20", "text": "beings have been on Earth for thousands"}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "of years. Ancient astronaut theorists"}, {"start": "02:42:20", "end": "02:42:24", "text": "believe these depictions are evidence of"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "contact with an advanced"}, {"start": "02:42:24", "end": "02:42:29", "text": "extraterrestrial race. Skeptics argue"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:31", "text": "they're simply cultural interpretations"}, {"start": "02:42:29", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "of an insect that already looks somewhat"}, {"start": "02:42:31", "end": "02:42:35", "text": "humanoid. But neither explanation fully"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:38", "text": "covers the modern encounters that"}, {"start": "02:42:35", "end": "02:42:39", "text": "continue to this day. Whatever these"}, {"start": "02:42:38", "end": "02:42:41", "text": "beings are, they've been watching us"}, {"start": "02:42:39", "end": "02:42:44", "text": "since the dawn of civilization, and"}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:46", "text": "they're still watching now."}, {"start": "02:42:44", "end": "02:42:48", "text": "But there's a theory that's even more"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "disturbing than the ancient astronaut"}, {"start": "02:42:48", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "theory. What if these beings didn't come"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:54", "text": "from another planet? What if they're an"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:56", "text": "ancient species with technology so"}, {"start": "02:42:54", "end": "02:42:58", "text": "advanced they can slip between"}, {"start": "02:42:56", "end": "02:43:00", "text": "dimensions? If that's true, then this"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:03", "text": "isn't a story about abduction or"}, {"start": "02:43:00", "end": "02:43:06", "text": "visitation. This is a story of"}, {"start": "02:43:03", "end": "02:43:06", "text": "evolution."}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:13", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:43:13", "end": "02:43:17", "text": ">> What if millions of years ago, a species"}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "of insect went underground, hidden from"}, {"start": "02:43:17", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "the dinosaurs? [music]"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "Deep below the surface, they evolved."}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:27", "text": "Their brains developed neural networks"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "like ours. But millions of years"}, {"start": "02:43:27", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "earlier, they mastered atomic"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:33", "text": "manipulation, cloaking, [music]"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "teleportation, technologies we can't"}, {"start": "02:43:33", "end": "02:43:38", "text": "comprehend. Those highly evolved insects"}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:42", "text": "don't just observe us. [music] They"}, {"start": "02:43:38", "end": "02:43:44", "text": "collect specimens, extract DNA. They're"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "comparing our evolutionary path to"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:48", "text": "theirs, learning what makes us"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "different. Our emotions, our creativity,"}, {"start": "02:43:48", "end": "02:43:52", "text": "our unpredictability,"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "things their hive mind doesn't"}, {"start": "02:43:52", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "understand. [music]"}, {"start": "02:43:55", "end": "02:43:58", "text": "That's one theory of the mantis"}, {"start": "02:43:57", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "entities. [music]"}, {"start": "02:43:58", "end": "02:44:05", "text": "But is it true? Could the Mantis man"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "have evolved on Earth? Probably not."}, {"start": "02:44:05", "end": "02:44:10", "text": "The largest insect that ever lived was"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:12", "text": "the Megaropsis, a dragonfly with a 2 and"}, {"start": "02:44:10", "end": "02:44:14", "text": "1/2 ft wingspan from 300 million years"}, {"start": "02:44:12", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "ago. [music] Insects were bigger then"}, {"start": "02:44:14", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "because the Earth's atmosphere was 35%"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:21", "text": "oxygen. Today, it's only 21%."}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:23", "text": "Insects breathe through [music]"}, {"start": "02:44:21", "end": "02:44:25", "text": "spiracles, small holes in their"}, {"start": "02:44:23", "end": "02:44:28", "text": "exoskeleton. This system works for small"}, {"start": "02:44:25", "end": "02:44:30", "text": "animals, but fails on larger ones. A"}, {"start": "02:44:28", "end": "02:44:32", "text": "7-ft mantis would suffocate under its"}, {"start": "02:44:30", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "own weight. its exoskeleton [music]"}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:37", "text": "would be too heavy to move. So, if not"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:39", "text": "an evolved Earth insect, what are they?"}, {"start": "02:44:37", "end": "02:44:42", "text": "Another theory is they're"}, {"start": "02:44:39", "end": "02:44:44", "text": "interdimensional beings."}, {"start": "02:44:42", "end": "02:44:46", "text": "And interdimensional doesn't mean aliens"}, {"start": "02:44:44", "end": "02:44:49", "text": "from another planet. It [music] means"}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:52", "text": "beings from here, just in another layer"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:54", "text": "of reality. We perceive four dimensions:"}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:56", "text": "height, width, depth, and time."}, {"start": "02:44:54", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "Theoretical physics says there could be"}, {"start": "02:44:56", "end": "02:45:02", "text": "more dimensions, 10, 11, 12. Nobody"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:04", "text": "knows for sure, but scientists at CERN's"}, {"start": "02:45:02", "end": "02:45:05", "text": "Large Hadron Collider are actively"}, {"start": "02:45:04", "end": "02:45:07", "text": "searching for evidence of extra"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:09", "text": "dimensions."}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:12", "text": "If these dimensions were folded into"}, {"start": "02:45:09", "end": "02:45:14", "text": "subatomic space, [music] advanced beings"}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "could move sideways through reality,"}, {"start": "02:45:14", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "like flipping pages through a book. Each"}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:22", "text": "page exists simultaneously, but [music]"}, {"start": "02:45:19", "end": "02:45:24", "text": "we only see one page at a time. They see"}, {"start": "02:45:22", "end": "02:45:25", "text": "the entire book. This might explain why"}, {"start": "02:45:24", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "they appear and disappear so suddenly."}, {"start": "02:45:25", "end": "02:45:27", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:30", "text": "They're not breaking the laws of"}, {"start": "02:45:27", "end": "02:45:33", "text": "physics. They're using laws we don't"}, {"start": "02:45:30", "end": "02:45:35", "text": "understand yet."}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "Another theory, the mantis beings are"}, {"start": "02:45:35", "end": "02:45:40", "text": "extraterrestrial. If an advanced species"}, {"start": "02:45:38", "end": "02:45:42", "text": "evolved in a planet with lower gravity,"}, {"start": "02:45:40", "end": "02:45:44", "text": "a different [music] atmosphere, they"}, {"start": "02:45:42", "end": "02:45:46", "text": "might develop insectlike"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:47", "text": "characteristics. The telepathic and"}, {"start": "02:45:46", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "cloaking abilities could be technology"}, {"start": "02:45:47", "end": "02:45:51", "text": "[music] so advanced it appears"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:53", "text": "supernatural to us."}, {"start": "02:45:51", "end": "02:45:55", "text": "And some researchers claim the mantis"}, {"start": "02:45:53", "end": "02:45:57", "text": "beings are using cloaking technology"}, {"start": "02:45:55", "end": "02:45:59", "text": "similar to what our military is"}, {"start": "02:45:57", "end": "02:46:00", "text": "developing or the military is trying to"}, {"start": "02:45:59", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "reverse engineer mantis [music]"}, {"start": "02:46:00", "end": "02:46:05", "text": "technology. There's no hard evidence for"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "any of those theories. So how do we"}, {"start": "02:46:05", "end": "02:46:09", "text": "explain the consistency [music] of"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:11", "text": "reports, the specific details, the"}, {"start": "02:46:09", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "vibration, the humming, the mental"}, {"start": "02:46:11", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "intrusion always repeated across"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:19", "text": "witnesses who never met? That can't be a"}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:21", "text": "coincidence and it probably isn't."}, {"start": "02:46:19", "end": "02:46:24", "text": "Mantis man encounters sound a lot like"}, {"start": "02:46:21", "end": "02:46:24", "text": "sleep paralysis."}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:31", "text": "You're supposed to be asleep when"}, {"start": "02:46:28", "end": "02:46:32", "text": "paralysis sets in, but once in a while"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:34", "text": "you'll still be awake. And if you don't"}, {"start": "02:46:32", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "know what's happening, it can be"}, {"start": "02:46:34", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "terrifying. You will hear buzzing."}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:41", "text": "You'll feel vibrations and hear voices"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "in your head. You might also see shadow"}, {"start": "02:46:41", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "figures. And I covered a lot of this in"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "our shadow people episode link below."}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:49", "text": "But most mantis sightings happen when"}, {"start": "02:46:47", "end": "02:46:52", "text": "witnesses are fully awake and active,"}, {"start": "02:46:49", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "often outdoors, standing in a river."}, {"start": "02:46:52", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "That's not sleep paralysis."}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "So, are mantis humanoids real? Well,"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:02", "text": "that depends on you. If you need hard"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "evidence, then no, they're not real. But"}, {"start": "02:47:02", "end": "02:47:06", "text": "if you believe the witnesses, then"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:09", "text": "something might be out there, something"}, {"start": "02:47:06", "end": "02:47:12", "text": "that defies easy explanation. I expected"}, {"start": "02:47:09", "end": "02:47:15", "text": "to easily debunk this story. I couldn't."}, {"start": "02:47:12", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "I also found no definitive proof. The"}, {"start": "02:47:15", "end": "02:47:19", "text": "honest answer is we don't know."}, {"start": "02:47:17", "end": "02:47:22", "text": "Throughout human history, we've depicted"}, {"start": "02:47:19", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "these mantis beings in art and stories."}, {"start": "02:47:22", "end": "02:47:27", "text": "They've been gods, guides, messengers,"}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:30", "text": "and observers. Not quite human, not"}, {"start": "02:47:27", "end": "02:47:33", "text": "quite alien. They exist in the liinal,"}, {"start": "02:47:30", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "the space in between the known and the"}, {"start": "02:47:33", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "unknown. That's a space we can't reach"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:40", "text": "and probably never will. We'll never"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:44", "text": "catalog every species. We'll never fully"}, {"start": "02:47:40", "end": "02:47:46", "text": "map the earth and the bottom of the sea."}, {"start": "02:47:44", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "We will never know everything. And that"}, {"start": "02:47:46", "end": "02:47:50", "text": "uncertainty can be terrifying or it can"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:53", "text": "be comforting. It depends on your point"}, {"start": "02:47:50", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "of view. I choose the latter. Now,"}, {"start": "02:47:53", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "though I'm skeptical of the Mantis Man,"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:47:59", "text": "I can tell you one thing for sure."}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:03", "text": "You'll never catch me fishing in a river"}, {"start": "02:47:59", "end": "02:48:03", "text": "in [music] New Jersey."}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:11", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"start": "02:48:08", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "My name is AJ. 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Heat."}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:44", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "02:54:47", "end": "02:54:49", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "02:54:49", "end": "02:54:51", "text": "[bell]"}]

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[{"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the most popular president in American"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "history."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> That's true. Should have never He should"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "have destroyed the tapes."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> And it's descending. It's going along."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "It's going along. It's going along. And"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "then it just disappears. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> It just disappears"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> in midair. Who are we talking about? The"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Freemasons. The You know those guys. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "yeah. Oh, I can't wait for that to go on"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the internet. It's just there one split"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "second and it's gone the next. He goes,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "\"So what happened to it?\" He goes, \"I"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "think it went splat.\" If you show this"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "to the American people and say, \"This is"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "what we've had for a long time.\" Then"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "suddenly the aliens don't seem quite as"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "scary."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> And on ice are what, four or five weird"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "looking Zeta reticulin alien. The"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Russians managed to miss the moon by"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "like 37,000 miles."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> They did,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> which is a whole another"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "hyperdimensional physics discussion for"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "another time. That is a powered"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "spacecraft in low Earth orbit hitting"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "the atmosphere and slowing down by 18"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "times the diameter of the moon."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> The lizard people probably knocked them"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "off court."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> It's It's not the lizard. The aliens are"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "next, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> We went through the Russians and the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "terrorists and we tried to go back to"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "the Russians and now we're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "pivot to the aliens."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> You always need a boogeyman"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> above this depression which looks for"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "all the world like an entrance into the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "underneath this pyramid thing. Right."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "First spacew walk, first satellite in"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "space,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> first female in space, first dog in"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "space, all that stuff. Poor Leica."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> Poor Leica."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Armstrong and Aldron."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> So, so we landed on the moon. You're in"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "that camp."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Absolutely. Absolutely."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "to you by Delete Me."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "You wake up floating 3 ft above your"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "bed."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Your phone, your keys, your furniture,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "all drifting around the room like you're"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "underwater. Outside, cars lift off the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "highway. Trees pull out of the ground."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Roots and all. People grab anything"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "bolted down. You have 7 seconds."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "That's how long Earth's gravity will be"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "offline. After that, it comes back."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "everything falls, including the 850"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "million people who didn't grab hold of"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "something in time. According to a leaked"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "government document, this happens on"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "August 12th, 2026. NASA calls it Project"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Anchor, and they've known about it since"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "2019. And if you haven't heard this"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "story, you better strap in"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> right here on"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Yeah. C human. C human. It's happening."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "It's finally happening."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> What's happening?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> I'm getting fan mail."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> Fan mail."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. The people are hungry for me."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Starving even. Listen to this. Dear"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Hicklefish, I've been thinking about you"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "a lot. Mostly with butter and capers."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Culinary fan. Very classy."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Uh."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> Oh. Oh. Dear Hacklefish, do you go"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "better with red or white wine? How"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "sophisticated. Probably a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> No, I don't."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> Ah, and this one. Hey, Hecklefish. I"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "know where you live. I I see. Devoted."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Takes time to get to know me."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> That's a threat."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> Oh, no. Look, this one reads,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "\"Hecklefish, do you scream when the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "oil's hot, or is it more of a quiet"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "thing?\" That was a little confusing. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "pot of oil. He must be a masseuse."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't think so. Oh, dear"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "hecklefish, have you ever been beer"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "batted? I'm spa enthusiast. I love the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "dedication of skin care."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> I don't think you understand. Read"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "another one."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Gladly. Now, this one's handwritten."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "That's extra special. H. Dear"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Hacklefish, I've been practicing how"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "fast I can flush a goldfish down a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "standard toilet. Turns out it's quicker"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "than you think. Ah, okay. That felt a"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "little personal. How do all these people"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "know where I live? Because all your info"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "is online."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> I'd like a fan club online."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Remember that questionnaire you filled"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Uh, sure. Are you eligible for a reality"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "show?"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> Right. You gave them all your"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> I assume they needed my info for"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "merchandising. Uh, you can't sell"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Hicklefish merch without Hickcklefish's"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "biometric data, can you?"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> It sounds like you really need Delete"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> Oh, did you just dip me at egg wash and"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "panko breadcrumb me into today's"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "sponsor?"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> I sure did. 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Uh do you handle things I did"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "back when uh dignity was optional?"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> I hope nobody Googles hecklefish uncut"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "deluxe package."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "In December 2025, a document started"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "circulating on encrypted channels. The"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "header read project anchor gravitational"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "discontinuity event executive summary."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "The document was marked classified at a"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "level above top secret. It described a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "global emergency program with an $89"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "billion budget and one terrifying"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "purpose. Preparing humanity for a moment"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "when Earth's gravity would temporarily"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "cease to exist. The date was precise."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "August 12th, 2026, 1433 UTC. For about 7"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "seconds, the gravitational force holding"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "everything to the planet would drop to"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "zero. And according to the document,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "NASA identified this threat in 2019."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Deep space monitoring stations detected"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "two gravitational wave signatures"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "converging. These waves come from"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "merging black holes a billion lighty"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "years away. And when they intersect near"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Earth's orbital position in August 2026,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "the interference pattern will briefly"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "cancel out our planet's gravitational"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "field."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "The probability assessment in the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "document was 94.7%."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "That's not speculation, that's a"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "certainty."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Dr. Thomas Webb noticed the anomaly at"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "2:47 a.m. LIGO had detected"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "gravitational waves before, ripples in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "spaceime from black hole collisions"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "billions of light years away. By the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "time these waves reached Earth, they"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "were faint, barely detectable."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Interesting to physicists, invisible to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "everyone else. This wave was different."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Two black holes had collided 1.3 billion"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "years ago. The resulting gravitational"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "wave had been traveling toward Earth"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "ever since. That part was normal. But"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "LIGO sensors showed something unusual in"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "the wave's path. A dark matter filament"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "800 light years long. The wave had"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "passed through it like light through a"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "magnifying glass, focused, amplified,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "aimed directly at Earth. Web checked the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "path again. The wave would reach Earth"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "on August 12th. He ran the amplitude"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "calculations three times. For 7 seconds,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "everything on the surface of the planet"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "would be weightless. He sent his"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "findings to Dr. Mi Park, his former"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "graduate adviser at MIT. She was the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "only person he trusted to check his"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "math."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Park didn't respond."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Mji,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "I really need you to call me back."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": ">> 2 days later, Web's paper was retracted."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "His data access was suspended. His"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "university placed him on administrative"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "leave."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "On February 14th, Thomas Webb walked out"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "of his apartment. His car was found 3"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "days later at a rest stop in New Mexico."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Engine still running. Thomas Webb was"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "never seen again."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Dr. Park received a flash drive a week"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "later. No return address. She opened it,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "ran the calculations, and understood why"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Tom sounded so paranoid. She copied"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "everything to three separate servers."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Then she started making phone calls, and"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "within 48 hours, Dr. Park would be dead."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "If you're reading this, I was right."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "August 12th, 1433 UTC. Get underground."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Hold on to something they've known for"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "TWW."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "The project anchor document outlined"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "four emergency protocols. Protocol"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "alpha, no public disclosure. If 8"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "billion people knew gravity would shut"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "off, society would collapse within"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "weeks, bank runs, mass panic, and a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "complete breakdown of supply chains,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "protocol beta, deep underground"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "facilities. Since 2020, governments"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "quietly expanded their bunker networks."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "NORAD, Mount Weather, Cheyenne Mountain,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "plus dozens of classified sites that"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "don't appear on any map."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> Oh, 2020. Interesting timing."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Lockdowns. Everyone's stuck at home."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Meanwhile, the dane bunk is that's not a"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "coincidence. That's a construction"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "schedule."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> Protocol gamma tethering systems,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "critical infrastructure like hospitals,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "nuclear plants, military installations,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "all retrofit with massive anchoring"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "cables disguised as normal construction."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "And protocol delta, population"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "prioritization between 800 and 900"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "million deaths worldwide, mostly in poor"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "countries. The document calls them"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "acceptable losses."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> Acceptable losses. Uh, that's how I"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "describe my true marriages."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> The whistleblower who released the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "document didn't provide their name, just"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "a single statement. They're not going to"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "tell you. You deserve to know. Within"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "days, the document spread across Signal,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "Telegram, X, and private message boards."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Some called it a hoax, but others"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "noticed details that seemed too specific"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "to be fabricated. The coordinate"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "calculations matched actual"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "gravitational wave detection data from"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "LIGO. The budget figures aligned with"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "unexplained increases in NASA's"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "classified spending. And then there was"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the date itself, August 12th, 2026, the"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "same day as a total solar eclipse"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "visible across the northern hemisphere,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "the first in almost 30 years."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Coincidence? Maybe. But civilizations"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "throughout history have associated"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "eclipses with catastrophic events. And"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "NASA has never been honest about what it"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "knows. The theory spread. Survival"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "channels posted anchor protocols. Reddit"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "had calculations for optimal tethering"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "locations. People bought heavy"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "furniture, installed ceiling anchors,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "mapped which rooms in their homes had"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "the most structural attachment points."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "7 seconds doesn't sound like much. Grab"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "hold of something, stay indoors, wait"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "for the anomaly to pass. But there's one"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "detail people aren't talking about. 7"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "seconds is plenty of time for Earth's"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "atmosphere to disappear into space."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "The announcement came at 6 p.m. Eastern,"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "18 hours before impact. Not enough time"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "to prepare, but just enough time to"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "panic."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> NASA has issued an unprecedented"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "warning. They're using the term"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "gravitational anomaly."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Gravitational anomaly."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> Anomaly. The event is expected tomorrow"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "at 10:33 a.m. Eastern. Duration"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "approximately 7 seconds."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "7 seconds. But they didn't explain what"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "7 seconds without gravity would even"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "mean. Colonel Raymond Price stood in the"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "operation center at Mount Weather"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "watching 47 monitors. Each showed a"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "different city and each showed chaos."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Where are we with intake?"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> 42,000 confirmed for intake, sir."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "Bunkers almost at capacity."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> Price stared at the screens. Highways"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "clogged, stores emptied, people fighting"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "over bottled water that it wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "matter in 18 hours."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "The bunker's gravity stabilizers hummed"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "beneath his feet. Experimental"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "technology classified since the 1960s."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Inside Mount Weather, gravity would stay"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "normal no matter what happened outside."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": ">> Close the hatches at 0600."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> Sir, we still have families on route."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> 0600."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> Your brother's convoy is 6 hours out."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> No exceptions."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> We can't save everyone."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Price pulled up the intake list on his"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "tablet, scrolled until he found his"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "brother's name. His thumb hovered over"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "it. He thought about Michael's kids, his"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "niece who wanted to be an astronaut. His"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "nephew who was afraid of the dark. Price"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "deleted the name."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> 42,000 is what we can sustain."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> Everyone else,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> he didn't finish the sentence. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "need to. He already knew the answer."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> I'm sorry, sir. This is a restricted"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "area. My name is Michael Price. My"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "brother is Colonel Ray Price."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> I've got a Michael Price out front"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "requesting entry. He says he's your"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "brother."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": ">> No exception, Sergeant."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> But sir, his ID checks out."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> Patches are sealed."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": ">> Sergeant, we're locked down."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": ">> I understand, sir."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Every physicist in history has tried to"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "answer the same question. What is"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "gravity? Isaac Newton figured out how it"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "behaves in 1687. He published the laws"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "of universal gravitation. Every object"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "with mass attracts every other object"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "with mass. The bigger the mass, the"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "stronger the pull. The farther apart,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "the weaker the pull. Simple math. It"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "works for planets, cannonballs, and"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "feathers. But Newton had no idea why it"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "worked. He admitted this freely. Gravity"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "was an invisible force acting across"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "empty space with no mechanism to explain"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "it. He said he'd leave the explanation"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "to future generations. That was over 300"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "years ago. Albert Einstein took the next"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "step in 1915. His general theory of"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "relativity redefined gravity. Mass warps"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "spaceime. That warping or bending of"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "spaceime is gravity. Think of a bowling"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "ball on a trampoline. The ball creates a"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "depression. Anything rolling nearby"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "curves toward it, not because the ball"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "is pulling, because the surface is bent."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "Planets orbit the sun because the sun's"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "mass has curved spaceime into a shape"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "where orbiting is the natural path."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "They're just following the geometry."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Einstein's equations work perfectly."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "They predict planetary motion, the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "bending of light around stars, and the"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "way time runs slower in stronger"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "gravitational fields. GPS satellites"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "have to be constantly adjusted for time"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "dilation or they'd be off by miles."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> Hold on, hold on. Time moves slower in"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "your heavy things."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> Yep, it's been proven."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> So, if I gained enough weight, I could"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "live longer."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> Yeah, that's not happening. Finally, a"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "scientific justification for excessive"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "pizza consumption. Oh, Einstein, you"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "magnificent bastard."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> But Einstein's equations describe how"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "gravity behaves. They don't explain what"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "gravity actually is. Because the truth"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "is, nobody knows."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Carlos Ramirez was driving his daughter"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Sophia to school when his phone buzzed."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Then the car radio cut to an emergency"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "broadcast."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> This is not a drill. Gravitational"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "disruption imminent. Seek shelter"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "immediately. Lie flat. Hold on to"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "secured objects. This is not a drill."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": ">> Carlos was on the freeway. Concrete and"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "steel everywhere. No basement, no"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "shelter. His 8-year-old daughter was"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "asking why the radio sounded scared. He"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "pulled under an overpass. At 10:33 and 0"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "seconds, Carlos felt his stomach drop"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "like the first hill of a roller coaster"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "that never ended. Then the car rose 1"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "ft, 5' 10 ft."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "Everything was floating. Cars, trees,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "people who' stepped outside to look at"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "the sky. He wrapped his arms around"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Sophia."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Hold on to me."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Whatever happens, don't let go."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> 1 second, 2 seconds, 3 seconds, 4"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "seconds, 5 seconds, 6 seconds, 7"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "seconds. Then the world remembered which"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "way was down."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Somewhere Sophia was crying, but crying"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "meant alive."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Carlos kicked out the shattered window"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "and pulled his daughter out of the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "wreck. The city looked like a war zone."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "Overturned vehicles everywhere, bodies"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "on the pavement, people stumbling"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "through smoke calling names. He grabbed"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Sophia's hand and started walking to"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "where he didn't know. Just away, away"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "from the fires, away from the screaming."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Away from the sound of a world breaking"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Every force in nature has a carrier"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "particle. Electromagnetism uses photons."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "The strong nuclear force uses gluons."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "The weak force uses W and Z bzons. These"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "particles physically carry the force"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "from one place to another. Gravity"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "should have a carrier particle, too."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "Physicists call it the graviton. But the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "graviton has never been detected, not"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "even once. Freeman Dyson calculated that"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "equipment sensitive enough to find a"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "single graviton would need to be so"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "massive it would collapse into a black"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "hole before it could make a measurement."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Then there's another mystery. Gravity is"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "weak. Extremely weak. It's 10 to the"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "40th power weaker than electromagnetism."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "That's a one with 40 zeros after it."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "Want to see how weak gravity is? Pick up"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "a paperclip with a small magnet. That"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "tiny magnet is overpowering the"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "gravitational pull of the entire Earth."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Physicists call this the hierarchy"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "problem. Why is gravity so different"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "from other forces? We don't know. What"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "we do know is that gravity varies"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "slightly across Earth's surface. Hudson"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Bay in Canada has a gravitational"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "anomaly. Objects there weigh about"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "0.004%"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "less than normal."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": ">> Less gravity in Canada, huh? That"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "explains curling. They're basically"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "cheating."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": ">> The Indian Ocean has a geoid low where"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "sea level is 106 m lower than the global"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "average. These aren't gravity turning"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "off. They're mass distribution effects."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "Less rock beneath those areas means less"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "gravitational pull. But they prove"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "something important. Earth's"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "gravitational field is not uniform. It"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "can be stronger in some places and"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "weaker in others. That raises a"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "disturbing question. If gravity can"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "naturally vary even by tiny amounts,"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "could it be artificially manipulated?"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Well, the US government thinks it can."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "The military has been investigating this"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "question for almost 100 years."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "Classified reports from Lheed, Boeing,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "and the DoD all reference the same goal,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "gravity control. And whoever controls"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "gravity controls the world."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "Then gravity came back, but not all of"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> Scientists have confirmed that Earth's"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "gravitational field has stabilized at"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "approximately 58% of pre-event levels."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> About half of normal gravity. The"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "long-term effects on human biology"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "remain unknown. The human body evolved"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "for Earth's gravity. Every system"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "depends on it. Infants born after the"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "event have soft bones, enlarged skulls."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "Most don't survive past age two. The"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "ones who do are so fragile that a fall"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "from standing height can kill them."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> How long can they survive at 58%."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> Unknown, sir. Medical teams are still"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "assessing."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": ">> Where does that leave us? 340 million"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "dead from the initial event, another 90"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "million from secondary effects"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": ">> such as high altitude esphyxiation added"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "another 180 million."}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "The atmosphere had expanded. Less"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "gravity meant air molecules spread"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "farther apart. At sea level, you could"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "breathe. Above 6,000 ft, you couldn't."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Denver was a death trap. So was Mexico"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "City, La Paz, Bogota, Adosaba. Every"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "city built in the mountains became a"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "mass grave."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "Bodies lined the highways leading down"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "from Denver. Thousands of them. Families"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "who packed everything they could carry"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "and started walking. Some made it 10 m."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Some made it 20. Some just sat down to"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "rest and never got up."}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "The oceans rose during that 7 seconds."}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "And when they came back, they came back"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "as waves."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "survivors went inland."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "Tent cities sprouted across the desert"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "and Midwest. Anywhere flat and below"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "5,000 ft. Millions of people crammed"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "into spaces built for thousands. There"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "wasn't time to bury the dead properly."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "There wasn't time for anything proper."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Parking lots became cemeteries."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Carlos found settlement 17 3 months"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "after the event. He walked 200 m with"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Sophia on his back. They'd almost died"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "twice, but they'd made it. Carlos had"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "been an industrial welder before the"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "event, just another skilled laborer. Now"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "he was something more valuable, a man"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "who could fix things. The settlement"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "needed water pumps rebuilt, solar panels"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "mounted, structures reinforced."}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Then the scientists made another"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "discovery."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> The field holding our gravity at 58%"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "isn't forever."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "It's going to stop. What happens when it"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "stops?"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:13", "text": ">> It snaps back to 100%."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Instantaneously."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": ">> When is that supposed to happen?"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": ">> Based on current decay rates,"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "8 years, maybe sooner. Scientists are"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "calling it the snapback. Anyone still"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "adapted to 58% gravity when it occurs"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "will experience immediate cardiovascular"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "failure."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:34", "text": ">> The survival rate for unadapted humans"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "is estimated at"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "zero."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": ">> I have to take a look at the filtration"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "system. I'll only be gone a few hours."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "Stay with the Burks until I get back."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> We're going to be okay. I promise."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "He didn't know if that was true,"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "but promises to your daughter were not"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "optional."}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Thomas Townsen Brown spent his 16th"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "birthday in his parents' basement"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "watching an X-ray tube hover. Not float,"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "hover like something was supporting it."}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Most kids wanted cars. Brown wanted to"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "break physics."}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "The tube was supposed to just produce"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "X-rays. But Brown noticed something"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "strange when he applied a high voltage"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "to certain materials. They moved. Not"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "much, just a tiny thrust, but thrust"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "without fuel, without exhaust, without"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "any visible means of propulsion. He"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "spent the next decade refining the"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "effect. He called it electrogravidics."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "The idea was simple. High voltage"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "electrical fields could somehow couple"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "with gravity, producing thrust toward"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "the positive electrode. By the 1950s,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Brown had caught the attention of the US"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "military. Classified reports from 1956"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "show that major aerospace companies were"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "investigating his work. Douglas"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "Aircraft, Glenn Martin, General"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "Electric, Bell Aircraft, Convey, Lear,"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Spirand, all of them had"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "electrogravidics programs. An Aviation"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "Week article from that year reported"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "that the industry was treating gravity"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "control as a problem in physics where"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "elementary breakthrough could be"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "imminent. Then everything went dark."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "After 1956, no more public papers, no"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "more conferences, no more news articles."}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "The entire field disappeared from view."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "But TS and Brown kept working, but only"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "on classified contracts. He died in 1985"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "and his research was never released, at"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "least not to the public. But in"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "classified programs, his work continued."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "In 1992, Russian physicist Eugene"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Padletnovv made headlines. He claimed"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "that a rotating superconducting disc"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "could reduce the weight of objects above"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "it by about 2%. The paper was submitted"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "to a peer-reviewed journal. His"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "co-author saw the data and signed off."}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "Then the story broke in the Sunday"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "Telegraph."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "The headline read, \"World's first"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "anti-gravity device.\" The university"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "panicked. Pletenov's co-author withdrew"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "his name. The paper was pulled. Pletenov"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "lost his position. By 2001, he was"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "describing an impulse gravity generator"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "that could knock down objects from a"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "mile away. No missile, no projectile, a"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "beam of gravitational force. Now,"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "multiple institutions tried to replicate"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "his results, but none succeeded. But"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "Pletenov's equipment worked and nobody"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "can explain why. Then there's the case"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "of Dr. Ning Lee. She was a Chinese"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "American physicist at the University of"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "Alabama in Huntsville. In the 1990s, she"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "published papers on rotating ions in"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "superconductors that created"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "gravidometric fields. NASA funded her"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "early research. In 2001, she received a"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "$450,000"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "grant from the Department of Defense."}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "Then she founded a company called AC"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "Gravity LLC and she obtained top secret"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "security clearance. But after 2002, Dr."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "Ning Lee stopped publishing. No papers,"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "no conferences, no public statements."}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "When journalists tried to contact her,"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "she refused to speak. Then she"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "disappeared. Literally, nobody knew"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "where she went. But 12 years later, she"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "was back."}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "But soon after returning, she was hit by"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "a car that caused permanent brain"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "damage. She died in July 2021. Her"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "research has never been released. Her"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "whereabouts for those 12 years remain"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "unknown, at least unknown to the public."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "But there are people who say they do"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "know where she was. She was working at a"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "secure facility somewhere in the desert"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "trying to figure out how UFOs fly."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "Colonel Price hadn't slept in 3 days."}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "The bunker council had rejected his"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "proposal unanimously. There are still"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "billions of people on the surface."}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "Children who've never felt normal"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "gravity when the snapback hits."}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> Colonel, we have 340 generators in"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "reserve. Each one represents the future"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "of this facility. We cannot risk our"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "survival for people who may already be"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "beyond saving."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "The gravity stabilizers in storage, 340"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "units, were reserved for a bunker"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "expansion for their children for"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "preservation."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "Price nodded along and said he"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "understood. Then he started searching"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "the classified archives. He was looking"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "for technical specifications, power"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "requirements, deployment protocols. He"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "found something else. A folder marked"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "WebT prediction model credible dated 18"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "months before the public announcement."}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "They'd known for over a year. The"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "bunkers were already being stocked when"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "Webb's paper was retracted. when his"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "accounts were frozen when he"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "disappeared."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "Price opened another file. Dr. Mji Park,"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "MIT, Web's former adviser, killed in a"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "car accident 2 weeks after the event."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "Single vehicle, no witnesses."}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "Price closed the files. He pulled up a"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "feed from a surveillance drone. It"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "showed Settlement 17 in what used to be"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "Nevada. He saw two people in the crowd."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "A man working on an old water filter, a"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "girl sitting nearby holding a stuffed"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "toy. The girl would probably die in 5"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "years. Her bones would shatter and her"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "father's heart would likely fail unless"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "they had gravity stabilizers. The"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "stabilizers couldn't save them from the"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "snapback directly, but they could"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "gradually increase gravity over time."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "60% one month, 65% the next, and give"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "their bodies time to readapt. Five years"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "wasn't enough time, but it was all they"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "had."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "This is Colonel Raymond Price, Mount"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "Weather Emergency Operations. I am"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "authorizing surface deployment of 340"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "gravity stabilization units. I accept"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "full responsibility. The council made me"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "complicit in the murder of Thomas Webb,"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "Miy Park, and countless others. They"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "will not make me complicit in millions"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "more."}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": ">> Price walked out of Mount Weather at"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "dawn, but he wasn't alone."}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "In 1989, Bob Lazar went on Las Vegas"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "television and claimed he'd worked at a"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "facility called S4 near Area 51 in the"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "Nevada desert."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "He said he helped reverse engineer alien"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "spacecraft. Lazar said the propulsion"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "system used element 115 to generate"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "gravity awes. These waves could bend"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "spaceime creating the effect of falling"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "toward a target. No rockets, no"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "combustion, just gravitational"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "manipulation. Lazar was dismissed as a"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "fraud. There was no such thing as"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "element 115 until there was. It was"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "synthesized in 2003 and named Muscovium."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Lazar said there"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "was an element that didn't exist and"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "then 14 years later it did."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:49", "text": ">> Yes, but their version decays in a"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "fraction of a second."}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": ">> Their version. It's alien technology."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "They're doing it wrong."}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": ">> Yeah, that's not how that works."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": ">> If I built a car, it exploded every time"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "I turned it on. I wouldn't say cars"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "don't work. I'd say I'm a bad mechanic."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": ">> Believe Lazar or don't."}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": ">> Believe. But in 2004, Navy pilots off"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "the USS Nimmitz encountered an object"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "that moved exactly the way Lazar"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "described."}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "It dropped from 80,000 ft to sea level"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "in less than a second. Over 12,000 G"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "forces. No human pilot could survive"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "that. No conventional aircraft could"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "either. The object had no wings, no"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "exhaust, no heat signature. It traveled"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "at supersonic speeds with no sonic boom."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "It didn't displace air or water. It"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "moved in its own localized space where"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "the rules of physics didn't seem to"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "apply. And these objects have been"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "documented by multiple sensor systems,"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "recorded by trained military observers,"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "and verified by the Pentagon. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "they are, they are manipulating gravity."}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "So, someone somewhere has figured out"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "how that was a major piece of the"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "project anchor document. But project"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "anchor wasn't created to study"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "gravitational anomalies. It was created"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "to control them."}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "The snapback came on a Tuesday morning."}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "At 1017, the gravitational constant"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "jumped to 100 all at once."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "The generators worked. Not all of them."}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "Generator 127 failed in former Phoenix."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "47,000 people, an entire settlement,"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "died in less than a second."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "Generator 203 in a Canadian settlement"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "went down 3 days before the snapback."}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "Repair would take 4 days. Five engineers"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "volunteered to stay. They worked outside"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "the generator field for 36 hours"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "straight. They fixed it with 9 hours to"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "spare. All five died when gravity"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "returned. Their hearts gave out within"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "seconds, but 12,000 people survived"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "because of them."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "And the other 338 generators held inside"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "the generator zones. People felt it like"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "stepping onto land after months at sea"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "or like someone had dropped a lead"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "blanket over your shoulders. Legs felt"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "heavy. Breathing got harder. But they"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "were breathing. Their hearts kept"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "beating. their bones held outside the"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "zones. The gravity change was violent."}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "Double the weight applied to every cell,"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "every organ, every bone in a split"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "second. 600 million people died that"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "morning. Most of them in the first 3"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "seconds, the rest in the minute after as"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "damaged hearts failed and weakened bones"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "gave out."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "The people in the generator zones heard"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "it on the radio. They watched it on"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "whatever screen still worked. They"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "understood what Colonel Price had saved"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "them from and what it cost him to do it."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "He'd spent years outside the bunker"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "personally overseeing deployment. His"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "body had been at surface gravity levels"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "the entire time. When the snapback hit,"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "he was calibrating generator 338 at"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "settlement 17. He got it working, then"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "his heart gave out."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "Project Anchor is zooming around the"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "internet, terrifying everybody. And"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "today we saw why. Losing gravity, even"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "for a few seconds, would be a disaster."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "So, should you be afraid? Should you"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "start buying ceiling anchors and cables?"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "No. Project Anchor is a hoax. The leaked"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "document first appeared on Tik Tok and"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "Instagram in late December 2025, and"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "it's pure fiction. There's no $89"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "billion program. There's no 94.7"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "probability calculation. NASA has never"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "monitored gravitational waves that could"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "intersect near Earth. That's not how"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "gravitational waves even work. They're"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "ripples in spaceime itself, not beams"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "that can collide. But the story went so"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "viral that NASA was forced to issue a"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "public statement."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": ">> Earth will not lose gravity for 7"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "seconds on August 12th, 2026, or any"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "other time for that matter. The only way"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "Earth could suddenly lose its gravity"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "would be if the planet suddenly lost its"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "mass."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": ">> How did NASA Pinky promise? Because"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "their track record uh isn't great."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": ">> Yeah, fair enough. But I think NASA's"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "right about this one."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> Human, if you believe NASA's press"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "releases, I got a moon landing to sell"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": ">> The date was chosen because there's a"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "real total solar eclipse that day."}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "Doomsday hoaxes have always attached"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "themselves to eclipses, and this one is"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "no different. But here's where things"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "get interesting. We genuinely don't know"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "what gravity is. Einstein's equations"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "describe its behavior perfectly, but"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "they don't explain its mechanism. The"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "graviton has never been detected. This"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "is a giant gap in physics. As for"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "anti-gravity research, that's real and"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "the history is dark."}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "Tons and browns electrogravidics"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "research was classified in 1956. Dr."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "Ning Lee got DoD funding, got top secret"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "clearance, and never published again"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "until her death in 2021. Boeing,"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "Lockheed, and the British military of"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "defense all spent money investigating"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "gravity control. Every one of these"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "programs is classified. But if they"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "found nothing, why classified nothing"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "for 70 years? Why not just say it"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "doesn't work and release the research?"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "Because if anti-gravity works, it's the"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "most powerful weapons platform ever"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "conceived. Silent propulsion, instant"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "acceleration, payloads delivered"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "anywhere on Earth without detection. The"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "country that cracks anti-gravity doesn't"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "just win wars. It makes war obsolete."}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "Well, obsolete for everyone else. And"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "that's worth killing for. And that's"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "worth hiding forever. And if it also"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "leads to free energy, 0 point vacuum"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "extraction, whatever you want to call"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "it. You're not just talking about"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "military advantage. You're talking about"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "the collapse of the energy economy."}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "Trillions of dollars a year gone. The"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "people who control that money have"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "direct lines to the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "agencies. They don't want any"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "disruption. Scientists who cooperate get"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "absorbed into classified programs."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "Scientists who don't, they get"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "discredited or they have accidents."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "Project Ankor isn't real, but"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "anti-gravity research is. But it's going"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "to stay secret. If free energy and"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "anti-gravity technology were available"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "to everyone on Earth, our entire species"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "would take a great leap forward. With"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "this technology, poor nations could"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "easily be modernized. Countries that"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "depend on foreign energy could be"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "self-sufficient and independent. Wars"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "for energy, which is the reason for"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "every war, would be meaningless. This"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "future would be good for everyone on"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "Earth, but it would be bad for business."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "The memorial wall near settlement 17"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "stretches for a/4 mile. Names etched in"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "concrete, hundreds of thousands of them."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "A young woman walks along the wall until"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "she finds a name. She doesn't cry, she"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "just observes, the way her father taught"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "her to when the work was done."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "She turns and walks back toward the"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "settlement. There is a filtration unit"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "that needs repair, solar panels to"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "mount, structures to reinforce."}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "The world is different now, but it's"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "still here."}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out with"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "me today. My name is AJ. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Welcome to Beyond Belief. Freddy Silva"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "with us. Best-selling author, leading"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "researcher of ancient civilizations,"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "restricted history, sacred sites, and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "their interaction with massive"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "consciousness. Freddy, welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "program."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> Thanks for having me on again."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> Yes. Yes, sir. Now, what exactly is"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "restricted sites?"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> Oh, the things that people don't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "talk about that make academics very"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Yes. So we have a story which is what"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "all the boys and the girls get together"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "around the table and say this is how"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "history really is and then you forget"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "about all the other evidence that"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "doesn't quite fit the paradigm and then"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "you make everybody else into"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "pseudocientists."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Why don't they go public with this?"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> It's a good question, isn't it? Well,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "there's a lack of uh funding that goes"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "around colleges. There's only so many"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "colleges that are available for hiring"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "these people. So many places you can get"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "published. So if you rock the boat uh"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you're out. You don't get published. You"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "don't get funding. and that's the end of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "your career."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> So I kind of feel for them in that way."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "But at the same time, the whole point of"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "being a scientist is to discover the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "unknown and keep discovering the unknown"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "and keep going where the evidence takes"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "you, not restrict the evidence to follow"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "a certain theory. Otherwise, we get"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "nowhere."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Let's talk about some ancient history"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "for for a moment."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Well, twist my arm."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> What exactly were the gods of the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "ancient times?"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Not a guy with a white beard sitting on"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "a throne. Uh we in the western"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> clouds all around him. Right."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> Exactly. Uh they were basically an"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "understanding of uh nature. The gods"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "were nature spirits. Uh so grass uh is a"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "god. Uh a chair is a god, a stone is a"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "god. So anything that lives, breathes,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "moves, was created in the universe has"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "its own god or its own essence if you"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "like. So anyone that basically was able"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "to understand this essence and look at"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the glue that holds these objects"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "together was deemed to be as a god. So"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "you became, for example, a person who"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "understands that how water works. You"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "became the water god. So it's not"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "because you're better than anybody else."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "It's just that you were able to perceive"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "nature on a very subtle level. And that"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "kind of elevates you as a person within"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "yourself, but not within the tribe. But"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "eventually we elevated these people to"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "become, you know, like uh some some"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "social status if you like."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> Is that what the Greeks did? Cuz they"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "gods for everything, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Well, they kind of mythologized"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "everything because by their time they"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "had lost the plot. They had no idea what"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "they really were doing. For them, the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "gods were mysterious forces that were"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "mythological. But the Egyptians before"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "them were actually admonishing them and"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "they were saying, \"Well, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Greeks are too young. Wait till you"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "you're in our shoes. We've been around"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "for over 36,000 years"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> and this is how things are. You you"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "beginning to lack the understanding of"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "what things really are. These are not"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "just myths. They're actually eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "accounts.\" So there was a gap between"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "reality and fiction. By the time the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Greeks get hold of the story, by the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "time the Romans get hold of the story,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "they have no idea where anything is."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "They're all supposed to be just"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "makeelieve spirits. But to the Egyptians"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "and any ancient culture, they were real"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "people. And they had possessed"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "extraordinary gifts."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> And this was going on all around the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "planet in different regions. Easter"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Island, they had their gods. They had"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "their gods everywhere, didn't they?"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> Absolutely. And if you go back 12,000"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "years, the picture is dramatically"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "different. Not only do we have a"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "different planet, we have a different uh"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "sea level which is exposing much more"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "land mass and we have all of these"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "different cultures which talk about"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "these gods suddenly arriving on massive"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "boats uh double hull canoes for example"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "out of nowhere and they would stay"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "behind. They would replenish their"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "resources and then they would tell the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "local shaman and local wisdom keepers a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "bit more of the wisdom that they knew."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "It's as though there was two paralle"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "civilizations working parallel to each"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "other. You had hunter gatherers like us,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "right? And then you had the gods, the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "people who understood the laws of nature"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "and could manipulate nature in"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "incredible ways. They were master"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "astronomers, seafarers. They knew about"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the mysteries of life. And they would"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "teach the hunter gatherers another uh"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "bit of understanding to help them"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "elevate themselves so that one day they"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "could be like the gods as well."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Were the gods humans, Freddy, or were"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "they supernatural? Well, the thing that"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "I've found over the years looking at all"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "the indigenous cultures that they"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "decreed that these people were very much"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "like us but not quite like us. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "the word they were humanlike but not"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "quite human is the phrase I always find."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> So, they were very tall. Um, the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Egyptians gives gave us an actual"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "dimension in one of the temples. They"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "were five cubits tall and regardless of"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "which cube you're using because there"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "were several that would be between 8 to"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "about 10 ft tall. And that goes with the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "skeletons that we find in many of the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "giants graves around the world."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> Giants,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> giant people, but they were other giants"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "as well. We'll go there some other time."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "So they were very, very, very tall"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "people. And they were often elongated"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "skull and they were redheaded and"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "greeneyed and blonde and blue-eyed and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "always light skinned. So"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> were they ET?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> They didn't mention this. They kept"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "saying they were always associated with"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Orion. That always comes up all around"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "the world. Whether you're in Easter"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Island, New Zealand, the star system,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the Sahara. Yeah. the Orion system and"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "specifically the belt stars."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> And they said that at one time these"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "people had the ability to go from our"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "level of reality to the belt stars of"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Orion and from there it would be like"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Grand Central Station. You go anywhere"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "you want and whether it was done"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "physically or out of body as an"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "experience where you can actually"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "project yourself to be somewhere else."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "That now is a matter of u conjecture"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "because these stories are no longer"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "there. But the thing I found in my"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "research is that they were very much"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "like us just had the ability to"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "manipulate the laws of nature as we know"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "them to get from A to B. They had a foot"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "in both worlds if you like. But they"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "certainly weren't afraid of them. So"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "they were very comfortable with who they"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "were which makes me believe they were"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "very much like us just a little bit"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "different."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> What about the gods of New Zealand?"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "What's unusual about them?"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Oh, it's unusual because no one actually"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "knows about them. Uh go back about"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "12,000 years. So now we have not just"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Easter Island and uh New Zealand, but we"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "also have many other islands which are"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "now gone. They disappeared."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Where did they go?"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> Ah this is the big story. Um they"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "eventually they were they were going to"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Easter Island every year. They were"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "meeting a tribe called the Whitea."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Hardly anyone hardly anyone's known"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "about these people and the oral"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "tradition just got published recently"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "and I was uh very privileged to hear"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "about this uh published it in my new"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "book and that they were saying that"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "every year these gods called the Uruku"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "you would show up on Easter Island from"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "a great land in the east called Kayena"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "which I would take to be either missing"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "land or South America one or the other."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Huh."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> And these gods would go to Easter Island"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "and then they would appear in a place"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "called the birthplace of the gods. And I"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "thought, \"Oh, now we're getting"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "somewhere.\" And it turns out that the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "birthplace of the gods is this location"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "on the South Island of New Zealand. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "still there. It's a natural landscape"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "temple full of very unusual features,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "all of which have been shaped by human"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "hands. And this has been in the oral"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "tradition of the uh Whitaha for over"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "12,000 years. They just published this"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> And where do these gods go? Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "apparently when they were done uh with"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "uh New Zealand, they would go back to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "this land somewhere in in South America."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "But in between their peragan nations"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "around the Pacific, they got caught in"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "the big flood. Not many of them"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "survived. The ones that did were able to"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "survive and go back to New Zealand. And"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "then two generations later, they show up"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "in Easter Islands, which back then were"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "described as an archipelago. Not one"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "island, several of them. So there was"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "still a lot of land mass around. and"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "they're they're in charge of remapping"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the Pacific because the whole land mass"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "completely changed. And there was a"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "title that was given to one of their"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "leaders. She was called the net of the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "world, which is kind of interesting"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "because the same description is given of"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "the surviving gods who were in Egypt at"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "the same time. So there's a big overlap"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "here between people who are navigating"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "the Pacific and they were also in Egypt"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "and South America at the same time. And"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the big connection with South America is"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "that whenever the gods used to go from"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "the birthplace of the gods in New"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Zealand back to South America, they were"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "said to take two totem birds with them."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "And one was called Titi and one was"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "called Kaka. And together you get Titi"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Kaka. Exactly. So now we know that"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "somewhere before the flood of 12,000"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "years ago, there was a civilization on"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "Lake Titikaka. And of course, we know"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "that as the city of Tiwanaku and all the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "area around it. Does Atlantis come up at"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "all in these ancient discussions?"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> It does and that's more linked to the"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Mayan culture or should I say the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "pre-ayan culture. So if you go back"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "again to the same time period uh"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "everything's been destroyed. Not many"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "people survived. And in 9,600 BC and"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "this is actually written down in one of"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the sacred books of the Maya. A group of"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "gods suddenly arrives in what today is"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "called the Yucatan. And they were called"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the its and they navigated from stepping"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "stone to stepping stone the remains of"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "what used to be a big landmass in the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Atlantic from a place called Atal. They"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "were really into big names back then."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> Right. They are."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> Exactly. And uh the Aztec eventually"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "called the Atitlan or as we know it"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "today Atlantis."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> Atlantis."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> And they said that basically they were"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "they were called the people of the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "serpent. And it has nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "being reptilians. is to the fact that"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "anyone who harnessed the laws of nature"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "was deemed to be in control of the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "serpent energy cuz the serpents move"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "like this as does energy."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> There's got to be some truth to this."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> Absolutely. Because at the same moment"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "on the other side of the Atlantic,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "there's a group of people called the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Offuser who land in Portugal. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "in the location where I was born, which"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "is really weird. Uh and they were called"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "the people of the serpent as well at the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "same time. And they escaped the sinking"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "land mass in the Atlantic. And at the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "same time, interesting"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> in Egypt, they show up as the um"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "followers of Horus. They're also people"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "of the serpent. So, we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the same group of people going out and"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "repopulating the world after ever being"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "completely changed."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> Are they the va kocha?"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> They are also related to vitosa. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the one thing that connects all of these"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "people together is that the nickname"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "that they had were shining ones. So in"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "in South America"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> shining on"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> the Vicosha shows up and he has a group"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "of seven uh architects with him. One of"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "them is a woman who happens to be his"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "wife as well which is very convenient"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "and they were called the highwaunti. You"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "got to learn all these things."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> How do you know these names?"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> I asked the local people what they mean"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "in the local language and I said does"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "that mean something? They said yeah it"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "means the shining people. I went my god"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "are you telling me that Vita Kosha"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "landed here in South America with a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "group of shining people? I said yes."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Which is which is where we get the name"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Tiwanaku from the city that they built."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "And at the same time in Egypt, the gods"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "there were called the shining ones, the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "followers of Horus. So we have two"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "different parts of the world. Two"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "different groups of gods. One"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "charismatic leader who leads a group of"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "seven people also called by the same"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "nickname. So we see that all of these"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "people belong to the same group of gods."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "So it wasn't just that there were gods"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "here, gods there, and everywhere. It was"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "the fact they all belong to the same"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "family, but they were world fascinating."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": ">> And that's the piece that has been"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "missing all along."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> That's on the Gaia program, Ancient"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Advanced Technology. David Childress"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "talks about the strange gods of Peru and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Bolivia."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> So, here's your standard keystone cuts"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "here at Tioanako."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "You see the T cuts here, and there's one"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "on the corresponding side. You see more"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "here. You always have two corresponding"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "keystone cuts on each side."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "And in fact, this is exactly what we see"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "at Oante Tombbo. This is also"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "uh a pre-Inca kind of construction. We"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "know the Tijuana was built at least a"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "thousand years, if not more, before uh"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "the Incas existed."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "In many ways, these keystone cuts are"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "proof that the Incas were not building"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Oante Tombbo or the other buildings that"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "we've seen around Cusco."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "This is the famous Gate of the Sun here"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "at Tijuana."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "You can see how this megalithic piece of"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "andesite has been split by an"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "earthquake."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "In fact, this gate isn't really from"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "this part of Tijuana. This gate is from"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "the Puma Punku section of Tijuana, which"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "is several kilometers over that way. If"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "you look up here, you can see uh the sun"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "god Viracha."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "He's holding two staffs on either side."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "These may have been jade scepters of"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "authority."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Notice too that his uh has tears coming"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "down his cheeks. He seems to be crying."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "These are sometimes called the tears of"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the sun. Gold is often called the tears"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "of the sun here in South America. This"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "is something of an indication that"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Tijuana was a massive metallurgical"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "plant processing ores and creating gold,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "silver, and copper."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "Some people say too that Viro is crying"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "for the red land for Atlantis,"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the land that's been destroyed and no"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "longer exists."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> His shirt used to be the same color as"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "his jeans before he washed it. You know"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. You notice these things."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Like David did a great job explaining"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "what that was, but my question to you"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Freddy is why?"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": ">> Why all those inscriptions and what"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "what's it all mean?"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": ">> Oh, that's a masterpiece. That doorway."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "It's a it's an incredible calendar. It,"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "for example, the headdress, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "actually Pesak. It's not Fidicosh. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Pesak Mak. He's the creator of the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "universe. He's holding two serpents, the"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "electricity and magnetism, the forces"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "that create the universe. And if you"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "just look at the numerical values of the"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "headdress, that gives you the matonic"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "cycle, which is the cycle of the moon"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "relative to the calendar of the sun."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": ">> How do they know this?"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> Uh there's a couple of mathematicians"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "that done some work on this, and I don't"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "remember their names off the top of my"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "head, but they looked at all the little"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "vultures, the little symbols on that"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "portal, and they found that the angles"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "at which the beaks are actually put"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "together, which are very unusual angles,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": ">> they are the degree of latitude at which"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "that portal stands. And also they match"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "the uh the e uh excuse me the eclipse"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "cycles. They match the paths of Venus"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "and other planets. The whole thing is a"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "big kendrical masterpiece. It even gives"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "you the sunspot cycles. So someone who"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "is a master astronomer, a real lover of"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "the sky completely put this carved this"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "on a piece of andesite and it was"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "already there before the flood because"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "the local stories computers for"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": ">> it's a massive computer and it's like"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "the language itself which is also the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "name of the local language. It was uh"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "deemed to be uh it's based on the same"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "algebraic format that a computer can"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "understand. It's a design language. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "not an organic language like you and I"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "you know understand English and English"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "has grown out of Roman and Celtic and"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "the Germanic languages and Indo-Aryan."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "It's that takes thousands of years just"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "shows up completely developed and the"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "syntax can be understood by a computer"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "which can then translate into any other"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "root language. Uh and this is the result"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "of a a mathematician and a computer"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "designer to work this out. Uh so it's in"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "an invented language. shows up out of"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "nowhere. And the Amara always said and"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "still do to this very day that yes, we"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "came from a sunken continent called"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Lapukij. And you know it by another"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "name, Mul, which of course is Lamura."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": ">> And they still teach this around in the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "schools to children around Tikaka today."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "And they said, \"Yeah, we came here. We"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "were the helpers of the gods. We're not"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "the gods. We're the helpers that came"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "from that land. They helped us survive"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "the catastrophe of the flood and we"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "ended up in South America.\" And they"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "still talk about it today."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> Were these ETs?"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> And they still said the same thing. They"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "were very humanlike but not human. They"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "were much taller than us. They were"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "different but they were kind of like us."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "So they weren't afraid of them. They"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "were very comfortable with who they"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "were."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": ">> Do they talk about them coming down or"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "anything like that?"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> No. They just moved across the ocean"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "with these incredible ships. They got"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "around the uh uh the Pacific as easy as"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "you and I go shopping for groceries in a"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "car. The the ships and in fact a lot of"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "the designs are still in Samoa and Tonga"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "today. They're massive. catamarans and"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "they can hold 200 people in one go and"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "they do go."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> Where are these ships now?"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> Uh they're still making in Tonga in"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "smaller smaller sizes."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> Where are the ancient ones though?"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": ">> Gone. Completely disappeared."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> Sunk."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> Sun sunk. And also because they're made"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "of balsa and and different reeds. They"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "just fall apart. They go back into the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "soil. That's why there's hardly any"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "archaeological evidence to back it up."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> But a lot of it's under the the ocean"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "now. Um there's a whole islands that"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "even only 200 years ago or in the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Pacific they've disappeared."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": ">> Freddy, what does this tell you about"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "the ancient civilizations of the past"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "that the fact that we have a recurring"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "situation? Any ancient culture unlike"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "the western culture today things in the"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "round that things always come and go and"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the idea is to learn from our"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "predecessors so we don't make the same"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "mistakes of the past. That's why they"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "keep giving us the knowledge of their"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "experience so that when we approach"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "cataclysms and right now we're in the"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "middle of of one uh if you can call it"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "that but they're saying but even NASA"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "now admits that we're in the next 10"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "years we're facing a lot of stuff coming"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "out of the sky and they're big chunks"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "headed this way and they're getting a"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "little bit concerned about this"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> a little too close"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> and a little too close in the next 10"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "years and it's the same place where the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "ancestors were. The gods also have the"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "same uh thing about the sky. They're"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "obsessed with the sky. Now, why would"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "you be that obsessed? Unless you wanted"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "to keep track of deep space objects."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "You've built a civilization. You don't"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "want it to go away. But at the same"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "time, they were very fatalistic. They"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "recognize the fact that things come and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "go. The idea is that people survive and"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "the survivors must have the information"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "and the knowledge to rebuild not from"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "scratch, but where they left off, and"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "that's why they kept putting the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "information on big stones because the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "big stones survive no matter what"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "happens. Were there certain areas around"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "this planet that were more advanced than"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "others at those times like Egypt? How"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "far advanced was Egypt from other areas?"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": ">> There were pockets of civilization and"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "there was one book which is called the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "building text. It's written all across"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "the temple of Edu. At least the Greeks"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "found at least half of it."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": ">> And they were saying there's one"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "incredible uh story there and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "pretty concurrent with the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "the younger dus the ice age. Uh so that"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "was about 12,800 BC. It tells about how"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "the gods, these shining ones, the"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "followers of Horus, show up in Egypt to"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "build the primordial mounds, and I"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "quote, \"Upon which we built the historic"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "temples.\" And as far as I'm aware, there"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "are nine mounds. And they were saying"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "that our land had been partially sunk by"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "a catastrophe, which is exactly what was"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "happening with the first ice age. Sea"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "levels rose, comets came down. They were"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "looking for a new homeland in which to"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "rebuild their former world. And they"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "were there at a time about 10,00"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "BC. And it's kind of interesting because"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "archaeology has just found evidence that"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "along the Nile, the exact area we're"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "talking about, there is a sudden"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "dramatic civilization. Uh we suddenly"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "discovered animal husbandry and"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "agriculture. It's an anomaly. We"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "shouldn't have been discovering"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "agriculture at that point. And it ties"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "in exactly with the arrival of these"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "halfhum half divine gods as they call"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "themselves. Huh. So these are places"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "like uh Carak uh and also the Giza"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "pyramids. And of course if you follow"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "the trajectory of that story and follow"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "the the information that Rob Boval and"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "Adrien Gilbert did with the pyramids and"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "the dating to 10,400 BC, you can also"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "see how some of the architecture follows"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "in that megalithic style up and down the"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Nile. In fact, if you look 13 layers"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "below the temple of Vetu, there's your"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "original temple, but you got to go down"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "on the side of the temple to find that."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "So these things have been built and"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "rebuilt and rebuilt and rebuilt. So they"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "were already losing their homeland. They"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "knew that stuff was coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "sky and they had barely a thousand years"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "to get their act together before the"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "next uh catastrophe struck and that was"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "the end of the ice age, the big flood."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": ">> Where does Central America fit into this"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "scheme of development?"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": ">> Same people as there were in Egypt, same"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "people that were also in New Zealand and"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "Far East."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> Same people,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": ">> the same group of people uh just called"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "by different names. So here we have quel"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "quattle, we have kukulkan and we have"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "one that never gets talked about which"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "is it jamna."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": ">> Well let's take a look about quelt. Ah"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> is ketzel kowatal the missing link in"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "the mystery of aan and could his symbol"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "be universal in the lineage of all the"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "different civilizations of ancient"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "America and possibly ancient sumeare."}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Author Anton Parks believes Ketzel"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "Kawatal could have an ancient link to"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "the Sumerian god Enki. Based on his"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "research, he discovered that Enki left"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "Sumera and resided in Egypt. When he"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "came to Egypt, he became Osiris."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "According to the Egyptian Book of the"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "Dead, Osiris was then killed by Set and"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "resurrected by his wife Isis as the son"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "Horus. Horus then revenges his father's"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "death."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "In some Sumerian texts, but also in"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Egyptian ones, Horus takes advantage of"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "the fact that Venus appears in the sky"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "to start the fight. That is interesting"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "because the link between Horus and Venus"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "is quite clear. Horus manages to defeat"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Set in an epic battle."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "When Horus finally defeats Set, he"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "completely disappears from Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "texts."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "I think that I found his trace in"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "America near Mexico under the name Quza."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "I think that he wanted to leave the"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "Sumerian and Egyptian gods heavy"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "atmosphere to create his own community"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "where he will be called Quza. We also"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "find traces of him a little further down"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "such as in Peru under the name"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Verraocha."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "I believe when he flees to America he"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "isolates himself. He transforms into"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "this wise character has a whole"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "community around him and he calls"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "himself Quatasau."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Among the Aztecs whose beliefs are the"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "best documented in many historical"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "sources, Ketzel Kawat was related to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "gods of the wind, of the planet Venus,"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "of the dawn, and of crafts and"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "knowledge."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Freddy, I'm just amazed at the ancient"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "knowledge of all of this. I mean, that's"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "an amazing story."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, he's on the right track. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "and that was also following the same"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "trajectory. Uh, but there are two things"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "you need to know about the ancient"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "wisdom. One is an eyewitness story and"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "the other one is a metaphoric spiritual"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "understanding and sometimes the two"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "overlap. Exactly. Uh and I also thinking"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "about the same trajectory where the same"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "person might have been going all around"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "the world and I'm thinking that would be"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "very hard to do because you literally"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "have to move for across continents"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "literally in the blink of an eye to be"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "in different locations doing exactly the"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "same thing at the same time. So where I"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "where my story differs slightly is that"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "these people were all part of the same"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "group of gods but they were all related."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "Uh and that's where the overlap is. So"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "Osiris is is its own individual person."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "Enki is an individual person but they"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "belong to the same group of people."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": ">> Why did they seem to travel around a"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "lot?"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": ">> I don't know because they seem to have a"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "sort of a concern that they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "sort of keep their memory alive with the"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "survivors of these catastrophes."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> They did a good job with that. They've"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "certainly did because without them we"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "wouldn't be here. And that's the one"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "thing that I always sort of decry about"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "people bashing the Yanaki for example."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "They're always the bad people. Actually,"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "it was a small group of people who are"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "the the the problem people. It's like in"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "any culture, you have good lawyers and"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "bad lawyers. You know, they're not all"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "bad."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": ">> And I always point out that these uh"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "lords of Anu, which is the essentially"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "the group name that they had,"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": ">> they without them, we would not have"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "agriculture. we wouldn't have animal"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "husbandry. We wouldn't have the"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "accuchments of civilization we have"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "today. And when you read the original"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "story that was written down by a god, a"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "guy called Emmed Uranu, who becomes"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "known as Enoch."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": ">> So the Hebrews changed the name."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": ">> Um Ahmed Uranu was one of their kind."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": ">> And you look at the story just before"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "the flood and you see the the heartache"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "that they had. They said, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "we've lost contract and control of these"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "small group of watchers who were the"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "cross people of the lords of Anu. They"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "went down and mated with human women."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "They taught them things that hunter"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "gatherers really shouldn't know at this"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "stage in life because you have to have a"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "certain amount of development in order"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "to take up arms and do this and that or"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "the other. And um they said rain them"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "in. Uh we went and asked the watchers to"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "bring in the renegade watchers. So there"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "was a small group of them that defied"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "orders. They began to teach humans"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "things that you should know at that"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "stage of life. And they said they came"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "back to them and said, \"We've lost"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "control. We don't have enough manpower"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "to bring in the renegade watchers and"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "worst their offspring, the Nephila,"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "which means the children of Orion,"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": ">> Nephilim."}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": ">> They're the really tall people, the real"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "giants that go around eating people and"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "doing some really horrible"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": ">> The Bible makes reference to"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": ">> Exactly. And they said there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "we can do. Humans will not survive. The"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "whole planet will be a planet of"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "redhaired covered giant people in no"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "time. So they said we're going to"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "manufacture the flood and the there will"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "be survivors. Gods will stay behind to"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "teach the surviving humans how to"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "restart civilizations. We will teach"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "them how to take care of themselves. So,"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "we owe them a big favor. Otherwise, we"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "wouldn't be doing the show."}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": ">> How far how far back did this happen?"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": ">> This would have been 9,700 BC. And"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "there's geological evidence that now"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "shows in the Greenland ice scores that"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "there was a massive pulverization of the"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "earth. Something horrible happened."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "Things struck the earth. And every"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "culture around the world in"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": ">> was effective."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": ">> 180 flood myths around the world talk"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "about burning mountains coming out of"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "the sky hitting the earth in all the"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "exact places in the ocean."}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": ">> Meteorite an asteroid."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": ">> Exactly. All meteorites."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": ">> And there was one case in Nepal where"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "they said that the water reached the"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "Himalaya. Now you think that's three"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "miles"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": ">> three miles high. How do you do that?"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Well, I found a ballistics report in Los"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Alamos where they were looking at"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "exactly the same story and they said,"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "\"Would it be possible for an object,"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "let's say half a mile wide, coming in at"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "the right angle with the right kinetic"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "energy in the right deep pockets of a"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "trench off Peru, for example, what would"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "happen if we reproduce that time?\""}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": ">> And they did. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": ">> the object hits the water and the plume"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "that goes up is 3 m high, which means"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "that when it comes back down, it's going"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "to recreate the same height when it hits"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "a land mass. So, this is now actually"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "put down in scientific terms that you"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "can actually reproduce a 3m high tsunami"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "with a half mile wide. And how long do"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "you think that event would last from the"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "initial hit from the asteroid the shock"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "wave to the to the tsunami to coming"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "down?"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": ">> It depends on the point of origin and"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "also the depth of the water. But it"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "would have taken a matter of say a day"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "for the for these tsunamis to go around."}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "Even a seismic wave say in um of"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "Indonesia would take half a day to get"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "to New Zealand."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:52", "text": ">> Massive obliteration."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:53", "text": ">> Exactly. And it was everywhere."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Absolutely everywhere. I have stories"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "from Australia from different Aboriginal"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "groups that talk about the waves coming"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "from and they live in different parts of"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "the country. So the people in the north"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "of Australia would talk about this wall"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "of darkness coming towards them that"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "they thought was a cloud, a black cloud."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "And they thought, \"Oh, that's not a"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "cloud. That's a big wall of water.\" And"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "the people in the south part of"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "Australia were saying, \"Yeah, there's a"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "there's a big wave coming from the"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "north.\" Well, if they're living in"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "different parts of the country and"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "they're seeing the same point of origin"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "of the travel of the water, they can't"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "be making that story up. Exactly."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": ">> So that's why I like listening to the"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "old people because they were there. They"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "remember these things and they teach"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "people orally and the story continues"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "and like the white of New Zealand"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "they've now just published it because"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "they said these things are upon us and"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "it's you know luck favors the prepared"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "so we should prepare."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:44", "text": ">> What do you think of prophecy Freddy?"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": ">> Oh another wonderful eyewitness account."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "In fact, if you go back to the uh"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": ">> and it matches some of these"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": ">> it matches everything. Uh Frank Waters"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "who wrote one of the best books on the"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "Hopi traditions and I love the book. It"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "talks about the different points and the"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "descriptions of what these worlds looked"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "like and they match what we now know"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "about the three ice age events."}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": ">> And in one of them, the last one, the"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "Hopi, who back then were called the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "Hizatom,"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "we know them better as the Anastasia."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "And they were"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:14", "text": ">> and they were located where? They were"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "located in a place in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "Pacific called Kashkara."}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:17", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": ">> Uh there's going to be a test on this,"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "George. Uh and spelling as well. And"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "their land mass is called Kascara. We"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "don't know if that's the same as Mu"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Leora. We don't know. But they're saying"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "that there was a group of people called"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "the ant people, the red ant people. One"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "of them was called Anu. So there's the"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "Anunnaki again. We are"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": ">> Anu, who helps them go from island to"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "island. He eventually drops them into"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "safety in the middle of the southwest of"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "America where they are today. So they're"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "very helpful people. They never describe"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "the Ano as being horrible bastards."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "They're always helpful. They're always"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "making them sure the people are okay,"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "giving them the right accutraments and"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "once they're done, they disappear back"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "into the unknown."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> Tell us about Gobeclet."}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "What do we know?"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": ">> How long have you got?"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "GoP is fascinating for one very good"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "reason and that is the way it's aligned"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "to a town which is only 20 km away."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "Everybody keeps looking at the back of"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "it to to a hill. Okay, look at what's in"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "the sky."}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:16", "text": ">> It's in modern day Turkey, right?"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": ">> This is in modern day Turkey, but back"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "then it was in what is today Armenia. So"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "you got to learn at the original uh"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "where this all comes from. GoP is not"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "the original name. The original name is"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:28", "text": ">> Portasar."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:30", "text": ">> And so now you have to learn your"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "Armenian. So lucky I have some friends"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "from that part of the world and I said"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "what does it mean? I said well port is"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "easy that's an umbilibical chord. Okay"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "what does assad means and they said we"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "don't know doesn't exist in Armenian."}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "And I said I know it does not exist in"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "Armenian because it's Egyptian. And they"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "said what what's it what does it mean?"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "He says that's the original name of"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "Osiris. Osiris is a Greek name. Assar is"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "the original name. So you have Gome is"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "the umbilical cord of Osiris. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "going why is it an umbilical cord of"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "Osiris? And why is it so connected with"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "Osirising who's one of the original"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "gods? So at that moment it's like"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "someone just downloads the image into my"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "head of the pyramids and there's a"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "connection between the pyramids and go"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "back and that's what 800 miles. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "thinking what is the connection? And"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "it's just one of those moments where you"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "just thank God that someone's looking"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "after you. And I began to look at the"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "pyramids and I thought let's take a line"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "between the corner of the small pyramid"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "and draw it right through the big"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "pyramid and where does it go? It ends up"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "in Gobekly tappy. There's your umbilical"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "cord. So the two sides and gies is"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "supposed to be the dwelling place of"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "Osaris. And that line goes straight"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "through the two pyramids all the way to"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "goapi which is also the umbilical cord"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "of Osaris. And the thing that connects"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "them together is the fact that they were"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "also called the watchers. They were"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "called the shining ones, followers of"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "Horus, uh who essentially is the"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "nickname for the watchers. And their"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "group happened to be living in a town"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "just down the road from Gobecletic"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "called Haranu, which means the meeting"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "place of the Anu. And that was in 8,000"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "BC. So I suspect that the Anu were also"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "involved in the building or at least one"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "of the buildings of Gobeclet because"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "there's so many there's over 60"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "buildings that we're never going to dig"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "the whole thing up in our lifetime. We"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "got a program on Gaia called ancient"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "civilizations with author Andrew Collins"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "talking about the strange things of"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "Gobecé."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:30", "text": ">> Andrew Collins points out that once the"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "humans left the area of Gobecé, they"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "spread out all over the world with the"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "same system of civilization"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": ">> after the closure of Goete. And these"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "settlements began to spread outwards"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "like waves and created what's known as"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "the the Neolithic Revolution,"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "taking with them new ideas in"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "agriculture,"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "animal domestication,"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "metallurgy,"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "the production of alcohol in the form of"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "wine and beer, don't technologies. These"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "ideas gradually move southwards as well"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "as westwards, eastwards and presumably"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "norwards as well and end up going"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "through"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "the area of the Lvant which today is the"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "countries of uh Palestine and Israel and"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "reach Egypt as early as 8,8,500"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "BC"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "and that here within sight act of the"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "great pyramid or where it would later be"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "built. A settlements arose and that"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "amongst these were highly sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "stone tool technologies which are found"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "identical at Quebec."}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "Why does this cradle of civilization"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "seem to be so important?"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> Because we have so much information left"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "over from it. Uh we're lucky enough to"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "have all the clay tablets for the"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "Mesopotamians and the Babylonians. They"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "were buried, you know, in 30 ft of mud."}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "Uh just like the Egyptians stuff was"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "buried in so much mud that was able to"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "be preserved. So we tend to use that as"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "a focal point of civilization. Uh and I"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "think it was actually everywhere. Uh"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "there were hot spots everywhere around"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "the globe. It wasn't just a place where"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "something happened and then it"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "disseminated from that spot. I think"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "that there were nucleus points all"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "around the world that acted as hotspots"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "of information and culture and"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "civilization and they sweated out the"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "information around there. The trick is"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "to find out how they're all connected"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "because the only way you're going to"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "find that out is talking to the local"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "people about this and about their"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "stories. And the more you travel the"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "world as I do, the more you realize that"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "it wasn't one point of civilization."}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "there are at least eight points of"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "civilization and they're all"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "interconnected which kind of almost"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "lines up with the the sort of the known"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "places where the gods used to live."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": ">> Uh so this is now being brought out to"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "the four. So it wasn't just Atlantis, it"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "wasn't just Leamura, it was Kascara,"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "there was uh you know the birthplace of"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "the gods. These things are starting to"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "build up into a much more global story."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "I think things are much much older than"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "we believe."}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> What do you think of the work of"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "Zechariah Sitchin Freddy where he talks"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "about the Anunnaki, the Anu coming down"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "here from another planet? Yeah, I mean"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "it's you got to look at this as sort of"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "a personal point of view as well. I mean"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "I like Zitin's work because without him"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "I wouldn't be here. I mean I read that"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "stuff when I was getting laid off and"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "you know had a few months of"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "unemployment to read all his books and I"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "found them riveting"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> and they were they were"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> they were riveting and but there are"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "there are errors in the work. I mean"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "like all of us no one's perfect. There"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "were mistransations."}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "So it gets you have to take to a point"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "where there's real research and then"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "it's personal opinion. So I take a lot"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "of what is done and I say okay I totally"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "agree with that because we can back that"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "up. Some of it you put in that box of I"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "don't know. Uh for example if you ask"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "any any of the tribes around the world"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "about do you think these people came"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "from the star system? They said well"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "they were here on Earth. We don't think"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "they came from somewhere else but they"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "were of the stars and they're always"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "connected with the bell stars of Orion."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "And then the story just disappears. So I"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "think he's kind of correct on some level"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "but we can't really prove it."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": ">> It's close. You've done a lot of work in"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "Cook Islands."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:10", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": ">> Where is that?"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": ">> Middle of nowhere. You have to go on"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "Google Earth somewhere in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Polynesia and you go, \"What's that?\" And"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "you close in on Google Earth and you go,"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "\"Oh, there's something there.\""}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> The Cook Islands."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": ">> The Cook Islands. And then you have to"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "go to the furmost island called Tu um uh"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "Tuanaki Island. And uh there's a place"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "there which is uh is a little hut. Uh"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "I'm trying to be very journalistic."}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "There's a small hut where lives the the"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "oldest wisdom keeper of the Cook"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "Islands. And when I was reading uh"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "writing the last book, somehow someone"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "put him together with me because I had a"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "missing piece. I couldn't piece all the"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "gods around the world except for"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "Polynesia. And he was very gracious and"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "he said, \"Let me tell you what we know"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "about our oral history that in about"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "30,000 BC, there was a a rising sea"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "level.\" And there was uh the Persian"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "Gulf eventually gets flooded and it"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "displaced a lot of people. And he says,"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "\"There's a group of people that showed"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "up here and they've been coming here for"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "a long time called the Tupanaki.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "said, \"That sounds very familiar.\" And"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "he says, \"Well, you know them by another"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "name, the uh Anunnaki.\""}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": ">> Anunnaki. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:19", "text": ">> The Anunnaki were in the K. Yes. They've"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "been here for a long time. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:21", "text": ">> and they were the red ant people, too,"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:24", "text": ">> And they were also associated with red"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "ant people. And they said, \"If you go to"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Easter Island, there's a mound there"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "called Anu Hanuaku.\" And there is the"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "Anu Hanu Naku, which is the the um the"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "platform named after them. But I said,"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "\"That's not what I'm looking into. I'm"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "looking at the big flood. What can you"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "tell me about the big flood?\" And they"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "said, \"Well, we can tell you.\""}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": ">> Is this the flood of Moses?"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": ">> The the big flood 9,700 BC."}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": ">> And he said, \"Yeah, back then these"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "people, the Anunnaki, were living on a"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "circular island in the Indian Ocean.\""}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "And my jaw was just dropping that. Where"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "is it? Said, \"Well, you won't find it.\""}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "Because the earth was submerged 140 ft."}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Sea level went up,"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:03", "text": ">> lands came down, lands went up. It's now"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "in the general area of where exists the"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "Arabian Peninsula because that came out"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "of the ocean and their island went down"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "because we've been looking for the place"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "of the Anunnaki all along."}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": ">> They call it Garag or Kag. We've never"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "really identified it. And finally, this"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "wonderful person who I think he he must"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "be 60 by now. uh he confines in me that"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "yes we have the oral tradition of the"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "Anunnaki living on a circular island"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "called Teitaka"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "where now somewhere in the region of the"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "Arabian Peninsula. So now we have a"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "natural uh record of where the Anunnaki"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "used to live."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:36", "text": ">> That's fascinating."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> It is incredible. I never would have"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "expected that come out of the"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:40", "text": ">> What are you working on next, Freddie?"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "What's next for you?"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> Trying to get on a plane with some uh"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "beverages uh for free."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": ">> That's what you want, huh? Uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "working on uh something that kind of is"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "a bit different uh but then it always"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "is. I'm looking at the prehistory of"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "Scotland and the western Isles of"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "Scotland because I found so much of the"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "culture the megalithic culture of"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "Scotland in Sardinia and those two never"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "go together. So I just did a documentary"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "on it and usually you documentary after"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "the book. I put the cart before the"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "horse. But it's got me thinking because"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "I'm looking at the original story of the"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "people who settled there, which turns"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "out to be the gods of Ireland, the"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "Tuaha, the Dan, who are none other than"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "the Tua Danu, who are none other than"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "the Anunnaki. So within 5,000 years of"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "moving from the Middle East and the area"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "around Ararat, they went through the"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "Danube River which is bears their name"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "through Danmark which bears their name"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "through the Nordic regions and of course"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "the physioamy of the people of the uh"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "Nordic regions bears their physical"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "structure very tall blonde light-skinned"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "just as as they were described by the"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "ancient people and I believe they"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "populated Ornne which is ice free at the"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "time and they moved south towards"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "Ireland that they became the gods of"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "violence around 4,000 BC. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "following that trajectory of what"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "happened to the Anunnaki because it did"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "become the bloodline of Europe after"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "many thousands of years."}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:04", "text": ">> Freddy, thanks for being on Beyond"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "Belief."}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:07", "text": ">> My pleasure."}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": ">> Fascinating ancient history, but to"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "think of just how many gods we had on"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "this planet a long time ago and how it"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "has affected us today, truly remarkable."}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "I'm George Nory and thanks for watching"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "Beyond Belief."}]

[{"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Welcome to Beyond Belief. A scholar of"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Hebrew language and literature and the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "history of the Jewish people from"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "ancient times through the Holocaust and"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "beyond. Dr. Ken Hansen, PhD, is the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "coordinator of the Judeaic studies at"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the University of Central Florida in"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Orlando. Ken discusses the true story of"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the Whailing Wall. Rabbi Ammeritus"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Yehuda Gets, who in 1982"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "dug deep through a long sealed tunnel"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "underneath Jerusalem's fabled Dome of"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "the Rock, claiming to have countered the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "longlost Ark of the Covenant. Ken,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "welcome back to Beyond Belief."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Good to be back with you, George."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> How are your hunts and your mysteries?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "They seem to be abound."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> They are abounding indeed. I've written"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "a whole new book, in fact, about some of"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "these stories which are just amazing."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Its history and archaeology combined"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "with some incredible human interest"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "stories. Whose holy land archaeology"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "meets geopolitics in today's Middle"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "East. It's the only place on earth where"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "archaeology is involved with political"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "dispute and often even violence."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> If we could only get things resolved out"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "there, what an area it would be,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "wouldn't it?"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "get along? Having lived in Israel myself"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "and in Jerusalem for over 3 years, what"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "an incredible place. There's an area in"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "fact of the old city. It's about one"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "square mile called the Holy Basin. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "an appropriate name because you've got"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the three great religions of the Western"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "world, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "with their holy sites exactly in this"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "one square mile basin. And what a"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "treasure trove for scholars, for"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "theologians,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "anyone who just has an inquisitive mind."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "You can walk the trails. If you want to"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "walk where Jesus walked, I'll show you"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "where Jesus walked."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> Can you feel the energy when you're out"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "there? I mean, if you actually walk on"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "land that Jesus walked on, can you feel"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "that? If you're open to the energy, oh"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "my, you can feel it. I remember very"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "clearly as a young student of history"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "coming to Jerusalem for the first time"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "and laying eyes on the temple mount"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "which is now occupied by the great"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Muslim shrine called the Dome of the"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Rock golden shrine and just to look at"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "that to behold it enormous it's it's an"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "enormous shrine but the beauty of it as"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "well and it sits I'm convinced exactly"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "in the spot where the ancient temple of"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Solomon and later the temple of King"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Herod once stood."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> In fact,"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> there's a lot of gold there somewhere."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> There was an archaeologist in the 1970s,"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Leon Ritmeer, who was able to place"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "cameras high up inside the Golden Dome"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "and photograph the floor of that Muslim"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "shrine above and looking down. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "floor right in the center of it is"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "bedrock. It's been open from the time"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "that the shrine was built back in the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "600s of the common era. And I remember"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the very first time with goosebumps"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "walking into that Muslim shrine and"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "looking at that floor and noticing there"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "are all manner of different indentations"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "and grooves in that bedrock that the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "dome is over. And Leon Ritmeer was able"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "to do precise measurements of the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "indentations, the grooves as it were in"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the bedrock. And he discovered that"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "those measurements are exactly the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "measurements of the ark of the covenant."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> Whoa. That described in the Bible."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> Described in the Bible."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> And tell us, Ken, about the ark of the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "covenant. What is its purpose? Why does"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "it seem to be such a great mystery to"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "try to discover and look for? Everybody"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "wants to know about the Ark of the"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Covenant. Ever since Raiders of the Lost"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Ark, of course, and there's a lot to get"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "excited about. I brought in fact a"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "little representation of people say, \"Is"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "this the Ark of the Covenant?\" And I"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "tell them, \"Actually, no.\""}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> It looks like a little version of it,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "though,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> doesn't it, though? This is a replica of"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "an ancient Egyptian chest. of the kind"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "that would have been found, for example,"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "in King Tut's tomb. We have a little"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Egyptian amulet, in fact, in Tut's tomb"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "that depicts a chest just like this with"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "statues of the winged Isis touching"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "their wings above above the chest. Now,"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "I'm a scholar and scholar scholars like"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "to question everything and even dismiss"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "whatever they can. Ah, the Ark of the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Covenant is just a fable. Well, if it"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "was just a fable made up centuries later"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "by Israelites living in another land,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "why would they fashion their Ark of the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Covenant to look almost identical to"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "furniture found in King Tut's tomb? How"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "would they even know what that looked"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> exactly?"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> It's it's remarkable. Golden covered."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "And of course, you're not supposed to"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "open the Ark of the Covenant, but in"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "there would have been the two tablets of"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "the Ten Commandments given by Moses. You"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "know, people think God to Moses,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> God to Moses. People think, well, uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "ten commandments must have been five"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "written on one tablet and five on the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "other. Actually, not likely. It's likely"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "that all 10 were written on each tablet"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "because this was a covenant. And a"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "covenant is a legal agreement. It's a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "contract. This was a contract between"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "God and the people of Israel. And you"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "have to have two copies just like in a"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "modern contract. God's copy, the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "people's. What is it about the ark,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Kenny, where they say that if you do"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "open it, you could be killed? It's like"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "some burst of some energy or something."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "What is that all about?"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> Well, the ark was said to have brought"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "victory in battle to the Israelites. And"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "indeed, the ark accompanied the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Israelites across the Sinai and into the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "promised land during the conquest of the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "land under Joshua. Ultimately, it was"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "captured by the Philistines in one of"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the subsequent battles. And the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Philistines discovered that the ark"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "brought upon them horrible plagues."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "So much so that they said, \"We can't"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "handle this anymore. We're sending it"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "back to you.\""}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> So, there was some kind of awesome power"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "accompanied the ark. According to the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Bible at least, they sent it back to the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Israelites to a place called Kiryat"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Yarim where it stayed for a very long"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "time apparently after the Philistines"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "sent it back."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> Well, archaeologists have actually been"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "digging in Kiryad Yarim looking for any"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "traces of it."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> Nothing. But they did find ancient"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "shrine there like an ancient temple"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "where such a thing might in fact have"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "been held until such time as it was"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "brought up to the temple in Jerusalem."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "First it was brought up by King David to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Jerusalem. Then Solomon, the great King"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Solomon, built a temple where the ark"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "was housed. And then mysteriously it"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "disappears from the narrative. Here's a"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "little representation of the temple of"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Jerusalem. Solomon built one"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> and then King Herod the Great built an"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "even grander version of the temple. This"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "is King Herod's temple. The rear part of"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the temple, the aft part, was a special"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "chamber called the Kodesh Kodesim, the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Holy of Holies, separated by a curtain"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "from the rest."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> How many people could go in there? Only"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Israelite priests were allowed to enter."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "The people themselves stayed in the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "courtyards outside. Only the Israelite"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "priests and only the high priest went"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "into the holy of holies one time a year"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "on Yumkipur, the day of atonement."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "That's where the ark was held."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> How long do you think it took to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "construct that? That's that's a gorgeous"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "facility."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> It took decades alone under King Herod"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "the Great to construct this. He built it"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "on an enormous limestone platform"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "that he also had constructed of enormous"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "limestone ashlers. The platform is still"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "there today even though the temple was"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "completely destroyed by the Romans and"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "the Dome of the Rock now sits in its"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "place. That platform took a natural hill"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and turned it into a huge plateau of an"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "area of some 24 football fields. Can you"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "imagine? And that's the size of this"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "platform that still adorns the center of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Jerusalem to this day."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> That's got to be inspiring. Now, we've"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "got a program on Gaia called Secret Life"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "of Symbols. Scholar Jordan Maxwell talks"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "a little bit about the Ark of the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Covenant tied into the Egyptians"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> to emphasize that there were a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "secrets and mysteries in relation to the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "ark that maybe people still don't know"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "today. So the most important secret of"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "all concerning the lost ark of the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Hebrews is that was not Hebrew at all to"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "start with. There was no Hebrew ark in"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "history. The whole idea of an ark of the"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "covenant or covenant simply means"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "contract. And so the whole idea of the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "ark of the contract or covenant was not"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Hebrew at all. It was Egyptian."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "And so let me show you what I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "about. If you go to Bible dictionaries"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "and look up the word ark, you will see"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "that even the Bible dictionaries tell"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "you that the very word ark comes from uh"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "the Egyptian. And then it shows you a"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "typical Egyptian ark. And then if you go"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "to another Bible dictionary, it talks"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "about the Egyptian ark or the sacred"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "chest. And so now you begin to see when"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "you start doing the research on the lost"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "ark of the covenant, you begin to see"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "that uh a lot of pictures have come out"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "of the ancient world showing you that"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "the Egyptians had an ark, not the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Hebrews. And here is an Egyptian ark and"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "an Egyptian priest in an Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "museum. So my point in showing you this"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "is the fact that the lost ark of the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "covenant was borrowed. The idea was"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "borrowed from the Egyptians."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> What do you think of that, Kenny?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> It's exactly what I've been talking"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> But it actually helps to establish the"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "historicity of this account. We have a"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "whole group of scholars, being a"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "scholar, known as minimalists. I respect"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "them. They try to suggest that most of"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "these biblical stories were just"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "fabricated. just basically stories,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> great stories written many centuries"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "after the fact and we should not take"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "them literally. Okay, I get it. I"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "understand that."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> Possible"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> possible. But when we find uncanny"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "details in the biblical text that would"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "not could not have been known centuries"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "later, if I were writing a story about,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "I don't know, China a thousand years"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "ago, would I know exactly the kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "dress that was worn? Would I know the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "kind of furnishings? You'd make it up in"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "a Yeah, I'd make it up. And And yet to"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "come up with an arc of the covenant that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "looks authentically Egyptian as if"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Israelites really were living at some"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "time in ancient Egypt and came out in a"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "great Exodus. It's controversial even to"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "say that in academic circles because so"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "many deny that that Israelites ever were"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "in Egypt or ever was an Exodus. But the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "ark is actually one of the best proofs"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "that we have."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> Now, Rabbi Yehuda Gets, we talked about"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "him at the beginning of the program. Who"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "is he?"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> Rabbi Yehuda Gets was known as the Rabbi"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Ammeritirus of the Western Wall, also"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "called the Whailing Wall. He was a"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "diehard zealot modern Israeli who had a"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "passion to uncover the whereabouts of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "the sacred ark. Now bear in mind that"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "with the creation of the state of Israel"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "in 1948, the eastern half of ancient"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Jerusalem fell to the Palestinian Arabs."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "It was actually annexed by the Hasheite"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Kingdom of Jordan from 1948,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Israel's war of independence until 1967,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "the six day war when Israel reconquered"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "all of this territory. That's what is so"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "controversial today. But all of"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Jerusalem suddenly fell to the Israelis."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "the Israelis. That means the old city,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "the ancient sites which were off limits"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "to Israelis, to Jews, frankly, from 1948"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "to 1967. If you're Jewish, if you're an"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "Israeli and you want to visit the"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Western Wall and just pray there, well,"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "this is there's a no man's land. You"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "have to cross. You can't get into this"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "area. This was a war zone."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> The Israelis retook it. Rabbi Yehuda"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Gets was there and he said, \"I am living"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "here. I'm living right in in the old"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "city now.\" Yes. Yes, he is. But he had a"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "passion to actually start digging"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "underneath the rubble of centuries along"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "the western."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> What made him think the ark was there?"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": ">> Because if we consider where the temple"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "stood in antiquity on this enormous"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "limestone platform, all of this area had"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "been covered in centuries of rubble. But"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Yoda gets wanted to dig along underneath"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "the rubble and he did so. And"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> so they gave him permission to dig"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> the Yes. The Ministry of Religious"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Affairs gave him permission uh to do"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "this and he started tunneling and he"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "came upon a gate discovered by a a"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "British archaeologist back in the 1800s,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Charles Warren. They called him the mole"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "because he was always digging"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "underground. The mole. I love this guy."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "and gets came upon Warren's gate. And he"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "said, you know, if I dig through, if I"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "open a hole essentially in Warren's"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "gate, I can actually follow the ancient"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "tunnels to the area right underneath"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "where the ancient temple stood. And if"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "the Ark of the Covenant is anywhere, I"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "bet it's down there."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": ">> Wow. That's fascinating. Fascinating."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "You know, there have been rumors that"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "the ark is in a church in Ethiopia."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Now, if that's the case, why can't we"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "just go to that church and find out"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "what's going on there?"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": ">> There is a story that in the days of"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "King Solomon, of course, the Queen of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Sheba came and that perhaps when she"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "went back to her kingdom in the south,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Ethiopia, presumably, she may have"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "brought the ark with her. And the story"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "is that it remains in a church in in"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Ethiopia, a place called Oxom to this"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "day, also in tightest secrecy."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": ">> I have a little bit of a problem with"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "that because frankly, I don't think that"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "the Queen of Sheba came from Ethiopia."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": ">> If you look at the way maps were set out"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "in ancient times,"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "the point up was not north, it was east."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "They looked at a map with east looking"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "up and south would have been to the"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "right of the map. Well, the word right"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "in Hebrew is Yamin."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "And there is an ancient kingdom called"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "Yemen."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": ">> Tman. Yemen. Yam."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": ">> And all we know from the Bible is that"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "the Queen of Sheba was Queen of the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "South, which would have been right."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Yamin on the ancient maps. I think she"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "was from Yemen, not from Ethiopia at"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> Now, the digging for this tunnel, of"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "course, uh is it mysterious to this day"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "or have people gone down there?"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": ">> Well, Rabbi Gets actually entered"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "through the tunnel through Warren's Gate"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "and he said he was overwhelmed with"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "emotion. He wrote in his journal, \"I sat"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "there for a long time, sprawled"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "helplessly with warm tears streaming"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "down my face.\" That's what he wrote in"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "his journal."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Well, up above on the Temple Mount"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "platform,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "sounds of digging were heard, and they"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "were immediately suspicious that someone"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "was down underneath the Dome of the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Rock, perhaps trying to sabotage it or"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "undermine it or even blow it up."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": ">> That's where the geopolitics comes into"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "play. And there have indeed been plots"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "by certain radical Israelis, I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "serious, to blow up the Dome of the"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Rock. Can you imagine why? Because if"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "this is where the temple stood, we want"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "a new temple to be built there and that"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "will usher in the messian. When they"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "heard digging underneath, they sent down"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "uh Arabs, obviously workers, workmen"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "with with trolls uh to defend the place"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "and they came upon Rabbi Get underneath"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "in those tunnels down there. Already"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "there. And of course, a scuffle broke"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "out. There was fighting basically"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "rioting. and rioting did in fact erupt"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "all over Jerusalem. Uh Rabbi gets had to"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "leave."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": ">> How big was this tunnel, Kim? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "how many people did it support?"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> It was quite an enormous tunnel because"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "again, this platform, 24 football fields"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "in area and supported by massive"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "limestone arches in order to flatten"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "what had originally been a natural hill"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> and it was about 40 feet underground."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": ">> That's where the tunnel that Rabbi gets"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "was in fact. Yes. and he came into this"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "this new tunnel because he he charged"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "through Warren's gate and nobody had"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "been in this tunnel before. This was"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "directly underneath the the Dome of the"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Rock or leading to that area."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> Did he claim the ark is still there"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "buried somewhere?"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> Well, there was discussion that he told"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "his friends that he actually saw it down"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": ">> He saw the ark."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> That's what he told his friends. Now,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "this may be apocryphal. All we know is"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "what he wrote in his journal, but he had"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "to Yeah. Well, that's the question. and"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "he he had to leave quickly and the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Israeli government said, \"Seal that"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "gate. Do not go in there anymore. Seal"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "it with concrete.\" Well, it is still"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "possible to travel that tunnel to this"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "day. I've walked through many times"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "sealed."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> Yes. We go along the tunnel that gets"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "had originally dug which was"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "perpendicular to the western wall"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "itself. We get to Warren's gate and"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "there's the concrete. You cannot go"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "through. You cannot go through. Kenny,"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "tell us about the Western Wall and then"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "I want to look at a clip to give us that"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "illustration. What is the Western Wall?"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": ">> The Western Wall, again, part of this"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "enormous artificial platform that King"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "Herod the Great built to support his"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "temple. Now, the rear part of the temple"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "was the Holy of Holies. That's where the"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "ark originally sat."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> But now you have a an artificial"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "platform with a retaining wall all the"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "way around. Well, the western side of"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "this retaining wall is the closest area"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "you can get to where the temple would"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "have stood and where the Holy of Holies"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "would have been. And"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": ">> that's the western wall."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": ">> So that's the western wall. They"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "sometimes call it the wailing wall. It"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "actually sticks out further to the south"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "in this direction. How did they do this?"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": ">> I've seen that stone many times. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "one of the largest"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "items, objects ever lifted before"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "mechanized machinery. 570 tons. You"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "could try to roll it on wooden logs and"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "crush the wooden logs, wouldn't it?"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": ">> Well, I think I know."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": ">> Tell us."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Because there are limestone quaries"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "right in the vicinity of the Temple"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Mount. You can see them even today."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Solomon's stables, for example,"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "so-called Solomon stables. We have"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "quarry marks all in that area. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "underground today. Probably this stone"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "was cut round like a huge column and"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "then rolled literally on an earththen"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "ramp up into place and then when it was"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "in place it was squared off."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": ">> How many people would it take to push"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": ">> Thousands and and thousands. And King"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "Herod was a literal slave driver. Now,"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "the Romans destroyed everything that was"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "freestanding on the Temple Mount. The"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "temple itself, all of the walls that"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "stood above, but they could not destroy"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "the Temple Mount. Those stones still"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "remain. And what I would like to know is"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "why can't we all just get along? Why"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "can't Jews get along with Muslims?"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Muslims get along with Jews."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": ">> $64,000 question. and and and what a"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "tragedy that there actually were plots"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "to destroy to blow up the Dome of the"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "Rock launched by radical Israelis. Now,"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "the rest of the Israeli population"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "condemns these people. They should be"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "condemned, but it only takes one or two"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "bad apples. One of them around the same"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "time that gets was digging had uh"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "actually perlloined some 600 pounds of"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "high explosive from the Israeli army"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "that he was planning to use to blow up"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "the Dome of the Rock so we can have well"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "so that we can build a new temple there."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "Now, the Israelis foiled the plot."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": ">> Well, they talk about the rock."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": ">> The rock is that bedrock that I talked"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "about with those grooves in it that you"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "can see to this day. When I first saw"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "those grooves, I had no idea why. I"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "thought that's curious those grooves are"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "in there. Only later did Lean Ritmire"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "discover those match the size of the Ark"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "of the Covenant and and the Holy of"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "Holies itself. And with 24 football"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "fields up there, you know, there is room"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "to build another temple up on top of the"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "Temple Mount without damaging, without"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "hurting the Dome of the Rock. There's"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "another Israeli rabbi. Actually, he's"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "originally American, but he became a"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "member of the Israeli Knesset, which is"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "their parliament."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": ">> Uh his name is Yehuda Glick. And for"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "many years, he has had a vision of"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "bringing Jews, Israelis, up to the top"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "of the Temple Mount just to walk around"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "there to pray. This is not not to do"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "anything, not to harm the Dome of the"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Rock, but just to pray. And the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "authorities, the police have said no"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "because it's too incendiary. Finally,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "they let him walk up around the top of"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "the Temple Mount, but they but they"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "said, \"But you can't pray. You can walk"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "up, but you can't pray. No praying. If"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "we catch you praying,\" I mean,"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "unbelievable. Uh, in in 2014,"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "uh, he was actually accosted by an"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "unknown motorcyclist right after he gave"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "a speech and the motorcyclist pulled up"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "to him as he was getting into his car"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "and shot him in the chest four times."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": ">> Did he killed him?"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": ">> No. Miraculously."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "Miraculously, he survived and he has"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "retained his passion to open the Temple"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "Mount to people of all faiths."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> He's still alive."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": ">> He's still alive. He's still up there."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "In fact, in 2018, he actually brought"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "two lambs up to the top of the Temple"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "Mount and sacrificed them up there. This"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "is Jewish."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "No, they didn't. and rioting has broken"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "out uh in the Islamic part of the city"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "over such things and the Israeli police"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "have tried to stop him. Earlier this"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "year, in fact, 2020, he was up there"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "again. He brought a group of visitors of"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "tourists up to the top of the Temple"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "Mount where you're not supposed Well,"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "you can go there as long as you stay"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "within your boundaries. You don't you"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "cannot deviate from the path and you"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "cannot pray. And the police found him up"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "there claiming that he was deviating"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "from the path and they accosted him"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "immediately and he sat down in protest."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "And I saw this on Israeli television. In"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "fact, I saw the event happen and they"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "dragged him away and took him off and"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "arrested him, brought him to the police"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "station because they said he was veering"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "off of the prescribed path because of"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "the peace process. to be honest because"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "now Israel has uh allowed the creation"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "of a Palestinian authority in"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "preparation for a Palestinian state and"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "the walk which was mentioned in the"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "video here controls this area on top of"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "the Temple Mount. the Israelis gave them"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "control under the Palestinian Authority"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "and they've made it much more difficult"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "for non-Muslims to to go up to these"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "areas, which I I think is a shame as"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "long as people respect the religious"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "traditions. Again, it's the bad apples"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "that that ruin everything. Um, way back"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "in 1967, there was another uh, great"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Israeli rabbi, Rabbi uh, Schlommo Goran,"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "who also had designs on destroying the"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "Dome of the Rock."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:16", "text": ">> Jeez."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": ">> And he even mentioned this to one of"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Israel's great war heroes, Uzi Naris,"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "who helped to liberate the Jewish"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "quarter of the cities during the the"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "Great War. And he said to Uzi, \"Look, we"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "need to blow up the Dome of the Rock so"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "that we can build a new temple.\" But"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "Uzi,"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": ">> that's terrorism."}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": ">> Yeah, it is. And and and Uzi Naris, who"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "represents the great majority of"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "Israelis, he said, he said, \"Rabbi, I"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "respect you, but you you say one more"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "word about that and I will personally"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "take you away and have you arrested.\""}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": ">> Good. Good. Good for him. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> But tunneling continues in the whole"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "holy basin, as we call it. And I I am"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "actually in favor of the tunneling as"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "long as we can get to good archaeology"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "and that it doesn't disturb anybody that"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "it doesn't disturb either Muslim holy"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "sites or Muslim neighborhoods. U in fact"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "a new tunnel was just opened a year ago"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "amidst a lot of continuing controversy."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "A brand new tunnel"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> seeking for the ark of the covenant."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": ">> This was different. Uh it all started"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "back in 2004"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "when to the south of the Temple Mount a"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "sewer pipe had burst and the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "sent their engineers to fix the pipe."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "But but again this is sensitive"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "archaeological area and the rule is you"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "have to have competent archaeologists"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "who accompany any such civic endeavor."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "And as the pipe was being repaired, the"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "archaeologists heard some sounds"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "underneath. Sounded like metal was"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "striking stone underground as they were"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "fixing this pipe."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": ">> And they said, \"Stop it. Hold"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "everything.\" And they began to clear"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "away the area. And they discovered a"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "series of ancient steps."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": ">> Steps going down. steps that were"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "identical to the steps leading right up"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "to the south end of the Temple Mount in"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "antiquity. This the only type of steps"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "they looked identical. The only type of"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "steps like this known anywhere in Israel"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "and they said there must be more here."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "And they began to to dig underground to"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "uncover an entire road of steps leading"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "from the ancient pool of Silom right up"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "to the south end of the Temple Mount."}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "The pool of Silom was uncovered in all"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "of this. What's that? Well, there's a"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "story in the New Testament that Jesus of"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "Nazareth healed a man blind from birth"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "at the pool of Saleom. You want to know"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "where Jesus was? We've got it. We've got"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "an exact location where he would have"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "been, where he would have stood. And"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "this enormous road of steps underground,"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "the whole thing underground with rows of"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "ancient shops along either side, they"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "call it the pilgrims road because"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "thousands of ancient Israelites would"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "have climbed those steps, including"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "Jesus of Nazareth in the days of the"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "ancient temple to enter into the sacred"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "precincts. All of this was underground,"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "but it had to be done literally"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "underneath modern Arab villages. The"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "village of Silwan."}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": ">> Back in 1996, there were three days of"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "riots."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> Sometimes banned from television likes"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "to expose our viewers to video that is"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "so bizarre it begs to be seen in its"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "unedited form. The West Bank in Israel."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "Riers throw Molotov cocktails."}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": ">> What was that all about? 1996, the same"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "tunnel that Rabbi Gets had been working"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "on along the same line as the western"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "wall perpendicular to that retaining"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "wall"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:08", "text": ">> led all the way to the northern precinct"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "of the Temple Mount in antiquity. And"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "over the years, finally 1996, they"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "completed it and they were the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "were able to open and exit from that"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "tunnel right onto the via Dolar Roa."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": ">> Now, who was rioting? The Palestinians."}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "When the tunnel was opened, it"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "immediately set off riots among the"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "Palestinian Arabs because they were"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "afraid again that this was part of an"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "Israeli plot to open up that tunnel, go"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "underneath and and blow up the Dome of"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "the Rock or also this tunnel literally"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "was right underneath the Muslim quarter"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "of the old city. You got Muslim"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "residents."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": ">> Are they justified in being upset?"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": ">> Actually, no. I mean, one can understand"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "it's a very incendiary"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "topic and a a very tense area to live"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "in. Uh, but really there was no danger"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "to any of these areas. The Israelis were"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "so careful. The last thing they wanted"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "was a cave in. And but they did want for"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "tourists to be able to walk along that"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "tunnel and to witness that enormous 570"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "ton stone ashler along that tunnel and"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "then to exit on the via Dolar Roa, the"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "traditional path where Jesus walked,"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "which actually is not the path. I'll"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "show you the real one, right?"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:27", "text": ">> Uh but but they did make the exit and"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "immediately it set off massive massive"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "riding. Within a couple of days, there"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "were 68 Arab who were dead in in"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:36", "text": ">> what quelled it."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": ">> U Benjamin Netanyahu, who was prime"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "minister back then as well, had to call"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "in tanks and helicopter gunships just to"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "quell the rioting. And of course, there"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "were casualties. There were Israelis who"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "died as well. Sadly, the majority were"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "Palestinians. Sad."}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": ">> And and that's how archaeology meets"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "geopolitics, sadly in the modern Middle"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "East. Too bad they can't all just get"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "together and you know"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": ">> absolutely but that is the vision of"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "Judaism as well that someday a messianic"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "king will come and will establish peace"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "on earth. Can you believe it? Judaism"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "focuses not so much on the hereafter but"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "on the here and now on the present. And"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "there really is a firm belief that when"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "the Messiah comes, there will be peace"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "on this earth and all peoples will come"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "up in peace to study the holy texts, the"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "holy books and and to live in peace and"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "tranquility."}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:36", "text": ">> Ken, if we find the ark of the covenant"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "and inside are the ten commandments,"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "what does this do to Christianity, to"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "Judaism, to Islam? The fact that it's"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "discovered, the commandments are there,"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "the stories from the Bible are obviously"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "true. What does that do? Well, actually,"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "the great rabbi of the Kabad Labavich"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "ultraorththodox movement movement, it's"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "called Kabad today, and it's all over"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "the United States. The late Rabbi"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "Manahim Mendel Schneersen spoke"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "personally to Rabbi Gets when he was"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "about to dig through the tunnel and look"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "for the ark and perhaps find it. And and"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "Rabbi Schneerson said to Rabbi Gets,"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "\"Look, I wouldn't do this because you"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "might be placing your life in danger if"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "you if you go ahead.\" But then he"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "followed and he said, \"But if you do and"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "if you find the ark of the covenant,"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "that is one step closer to the final"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "redemption.\" And that is a belief across"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "Judaism that also propels some of the"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "modern folk who are even today searching"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "for the ark. I have a friend who is"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "searching for the ark in a cave out in"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "the middle of the Judean desert. He"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "thinks it's out there."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": ">> Where do they get these leads? Well,"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "there is another text, an apocryphal"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "book, uh, called the the book of Mcabes,"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "which tells us that the prophet Jeremiah"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "before the Babylonian conquest of the"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "city in 586 BC actually rescued the ark"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "and brought it out into the middle of"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "the desert, into the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "wilderness, and hid it there in a cave"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "and sealed it until the end of days."}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "That's in the book of second Mcabes."}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "Well, it's not in the Bible. apocryphal"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "book. Um, I don't put a lot of stock in"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "it, but there have been people like my"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "like my friend, my buddy who's out there"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "near the Dead Sea. He thinks the Dead"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "Sea Scrolls point to the exact location"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "of the cave where it's hidden. Uh, who"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "knows? I I I think I I kind of doubt it,"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "but but I think, look, if you have the"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "wherewithal to dig,"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:40", "text": ">> dig dig."}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:42", "text": ">> Dig."}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:43", "text": ">> As long as you're not destroying."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:45", "text": ">> As long as you're not destroying. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "and and he has all kinds of problems"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "because the Israelis don't want to give"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "him permission to go out there and dig"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "in the cave where he thinks it's"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "located."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": ">> Are they afraid we're going to find it?"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> Uh he thinks that they are. He thinks"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "that they are. I think probably they"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "just don't want more unauthorized"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "digging because he's not a certified"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "archaeologist and so on. But but uh who"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "who knows? He has friends um in the"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "Israeli government who would like to see"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "him go ahead and and open this. I'd like"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "to see us go back through the tunnel of"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "Rabbi Gets and literally go down there"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "and open up that that tunnel again and"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "see. But but it of course of course"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "caused more more rioting."}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": ">> Who do you think had the best lead? Ken,"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> uh I I I like Rabbi Gets personally. Of"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "course, as a scholar scholars are"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "trained to be skeptical of everything"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "and the chances that the ark would"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "actually have survived all this time"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "from a scholarly standpoint are"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "minuscule. But again, Rabbi Get said he"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "saw something. I'm not I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "he saw, but I'd sure like to find out"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "what he saw."}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:49", "text": ">> See, I've got this vision that some"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "billionaire on this planet already has"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "the ark in his little home museum or"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": ">> Stranger things have happened, including"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "the Dead Sea Scrolls wi, which were"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "bargained off and sold off. And we still"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "have stories of people owning certain"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "fragments of Dead Sea Scroll material"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "that they got themselves and are holding"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "on to and now want to sell for millions"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "of dollars and so on and so forth. But"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "that's what we're dealing with."}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": ">> What keeps driving you, Ken? What keeps"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "pushing you?"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": ">> Curiosity. It was the same thing that"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "drove me to the land of Israel to begin"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "with as a young history student. I"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "wasn't a theologian per se. I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "dig into history and to archaeology. And"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "I'd never been out of the United States"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "before in my life. I just got on a plane"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "and headed to Jerusalem."}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": ">> I mean, I've never interviewed someone"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "with as much passion as you."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:40", "text": ">> You You really"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:42", "text": ">> It's easy to get passionate. And if you"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "And if you're not passionate, then why"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "do it? Why? Why do it? Why Why not get"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "excited about what you live for? And"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "that's what keeps me going. It ke keeps"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "me as a professor, as a writer, as an"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "author. That's why I wrote my new book."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "I didn't even plan to write this book."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "It just came to me, you know, this is a"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "topic that nobody has really dealt with"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "before. And I sat down and I pounded it"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "out. Do you want the ark to be"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "discovered?"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": ">> No one would be more happy in the I"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "would stand up and dance right here and"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "now if if we had a good lead on the ark"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "of the covenant. Again, the scholar in"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "me is doubtful, but questions linger."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "The prophet Jeremiah did detail the"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "various furnishing furniture items of"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "the ancient temple that was carted away"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "into Babylonia at the time of the"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "ancient conquest. The manora and the the"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "table of the showbread and so on and so"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "forth. He doesn't mention the ark of the"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "covenant."}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:39", "text": ">> Why not?"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:41", "text": ">> He would have"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> he would have mentioned it."}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": ">> So maybe it had already been hidden"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "away. Why has it not appeared in any"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "other ancient document or record of any"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "kind whatsoever?"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "These are the kind of questions that"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "linger. The scholar is doubtful, but"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "hey, who would have believed that a set"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "of 2,000-year-old parchments called the"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "Dead Sea Scrolls would have survived all"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "of this time?"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> Ken, thanks for being on Beyond Belief."}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:12", "text": ">> Always a pleasure, George."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:15", "text": ">> What a fascinating discussion. Seeking"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "the Ark of the Covenant. an ark, a"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "covenant where the ten commandments"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "given from God to Moses may very well"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "still be there. Fascinating if we ever"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "find it. I'm George Nory. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "watching Beyond Belief. There."}]

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Because what"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "the scientists did was into the vessel"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "that had completely random photons, they"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "put human DNA. Human DNA because they"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "wanted to see if human DNA has an effect"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "on the photons. And before I go any"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "further, I just going to invite you to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "think about what they're asking. Photons"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "are the stuff this world is made of. DNA"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "is the stuff we're made of. 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They"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "took human DNA and they placed it inside"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the vessel. And then they measured the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "DNA again to see what would happen. And"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "they measured the photons again to see"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "what would happen. And the results of"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "this experiment changed the way we have"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "been conditioned to think about"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "ourselves in the world. Because the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "photons went from being completely"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "random when they were first measured and"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "in the presence of the human DNA, the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "photons are no longer random. They are"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "ordered. They followed precisely the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "geometry of the DNA. The DNA was having"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "a direct effect on the photons. The"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "stuff we're made of is having a direct"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "effect on the stuff our world is made"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "of. Just like some of our most ancient"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "and cherished indigenous and spiritual"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "traditions have always told us that we"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "are connected to the world. So this is"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the first experiment. Human DNA has a"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "measurable effect on the stuff our world"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "is made of. Now I want you to see I want"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "you to see the way the scientists"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "responded this. So I'm going to read"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "this to you directly. In the journal"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Nanobiology published in 1995"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the way the scientists described this."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "They said that the photons were"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "described as behaving and this is a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "quote surprisingly and"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "counterintuitively."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Counterintuitively it's counterintuitive"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "because the scientific thinking is that"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "everything is separate from everything"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "else and there is no stuff to convey any"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "effect from the DNA to the matter."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "That's why it's counterintuitive to the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "science. But the next piece is what I"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "find particularly interesting. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "invite you to listen to the language. It"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "says we are forced to accept the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "possibility."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "They're saying that they are forced."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "They're not saying it looks like or it"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "appears or this is what we found."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "They're saying we are forced to accept"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "the possibility that some new field of"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "energy is being excited by the DNA."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Well, I think we know it's not a new"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "field. It's a field that's been around a"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "long time. It's simply that we are just"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "now recognizing that field and what it"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "means to us. So the summary of this"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "second experiment is that science now"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "confirms that human DNA influences the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "stuff our world is made of through the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "photons by communicating directly"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "through the field. That's a big piece."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "But now let me go to the second"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "experiment."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "This experiment was published in the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "journal of scientific exploration in"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "1994."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "It begins"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "with human DNA once again. And this is a"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "very precise kind of human DNA. It comes"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "from umbilical cords of newborns because"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that DNA is what's called very pristine"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "DNA. It hasn't been eroded over time as"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "happens as we mature in life. So it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "very pristine kind of DNA and the DNA is"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "isolated in one vessel and that is"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "encased in another vessel to make sure"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "that there are no other influences that"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "are are are happening from outside to"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "influence the DNA."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "So here is the experiment. This very"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "unique DNA is now placed within the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "range of the field of a human heart that"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "we described in an earlier episode."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Every human heart, if you recall, has a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "field of energy that extends beyond the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "physical heart for a distance between 5"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "to 8 ft. And that field, it is an"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "electrical and a magnetic field that we"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "can measure with conventional equipment."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "So the question is through that field is"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the DNA influenced by the emotions of"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "another person. Can our emotions"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "actually influence the DNA in our"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "bodies? Before I tell you the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "experiment, let me just share a little"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "bit about why this is important."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Human DNA when it is in our cells, uh it"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "is coiled in very specific kinds of"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "ways. And what scientists have found is"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "that in the presence of certain emotions"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "that we would call negative emotions,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "now I don't really like to to use that"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "term, but I'm going to use it to be"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "clear what we're talking about. So when"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "we talk about emotions,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "for example, of anger or hate or"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "jealousy or rage or frustration,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "those that we would typically consider"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "as negative emotions, they have an"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "effect on the DNA within our bodies. And"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "the effect is that in the presence of"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "those emotions, the DNA is actually the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "coil is tightened. It's tightened like a"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "a little knot. And that's important"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "because when it is tightened in this"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "way, the DNA does not express to its"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "fullest capacity. So the negative"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "emotions tighten the coil and prevent"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the DNA from expressing uh the the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "fullest capacity of whatever it is that"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "it is expressing whether it's our immune"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "response or anti-aging hormones or"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "whatever it is. The DNA simply cannot do"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "uh its full complement of what it's"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "designed to do."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> The stuff we're made out of doesn't even"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "exist and the world that we see doesn't"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "exist the way we believe it does. What"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "he he said was what we see as matter is"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "here because of the existence of what he"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "called a conscious and intelligent mind."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "And these are his precise words. And he"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "followed that statement by saying that"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "underlying this mind is the matrix of"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "all matter. And this is the coin he"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "termed in 1944. Of course the movie uh"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "series was based on the studies that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "came afterward but uh it's actually been"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "around since the mid 20th century. So"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "this field, the matrix or the divine"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "matrix as it now is being called is"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "recognized is as the field of"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "intelligent nonconventional energy. It"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "doesn't work the way electricity or or"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "broadcast energy works. Uh and perhaps"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "that's one of the reasons it's taken so"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "long for science to catch up with the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "fact that this is there because our"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "equipment isn't built to detect this"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "kind of energy. uh on the one hand the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "other hand these ancient indigenous"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "cultures they detected it through the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "equipment of their bodies they"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "understood how to sense and feel and"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "work and move in this field so for me I"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "was trained as a scientist and in my"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "training there was never an allowance"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "for uh the possibility this field could"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "exist as a matter of fact in the last"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "100 years science uh has has missed the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "mark twice uh in terms of their"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "explanation the story that science gives"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "of how our world works. And we're now"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "paying the price for where science got"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "it wrong essentially. And and it's"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "coming full circle. It's being"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "corrected. But the first place that this"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "happened uh was with the belief that the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "space between things is empty. And now"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "we know that nothing could be further"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "from the truth. There's there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "going on in what we always thought was"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "empty space. But from the experiments"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "that were performed in 1887, the very"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "famous Michaelelsson Mley experiments to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "detect whether or not this field was"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "there. when when those experiments were"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "interpreted uh as as proving the field"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "wasn't there 100 years over 100 years"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "ago from that point forward our science"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "has been based in the belief that"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "everything is separate from everything"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "else. What happens in one place doesn't"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "have any effect on anything else. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "what happens in this lifetime uh has"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "nothing to do with any other lifetimes"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "and when we leave our bodies there's"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "nothing for our souls to travel into."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "This is going to be important as as we"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "talk about some of the uh the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "implications of our time in history and"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "where we're going. So this the first"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "principle where they got it wrong. And"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the second was that science, western"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "science has believed firmly that the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "experiences that we have inside of our"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "bodies, our thoughts, feelings,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "emotions, beliefs, our prayers, our"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "affirmations in here have no effect on"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "the world beyond our bodies. And now we"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "know that these two assumptions are flat"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "wrong. There is something in the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "nothing. And we do have the ability"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "through our hearts, what is called"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "coherent heart-based emotion to create"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "the fields in our bodies, the fields of"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "our beliefs, of our thought, feelings,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "and emotions that extend beyond our"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "bodies into the divine matrix. So when"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "people ask what is the divine matrix,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "the the way to answer that, it is the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "container for the entire universe. As"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "far as scientists understand right now,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "everything that happens in this universe"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "and in the higher dimensions of this"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "universe are all within the context of"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "this field. Number one. Number two, that"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "the divine matrix is a bridge between"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "our inner and our outer worlds. It's the"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "conduit that allows our prayers and our"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "our good wishes for one another to move"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "from our hearts into this field uh and"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "and be disseminated and distributed in"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "the field in ways that we're only"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "beginning to understand in ways that"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "appear to defy the laws of physics as we"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "understand them today. And that's"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "exciting. And number three, this field"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "appears to be a mirror in that the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "quantum soup of all possibilities, if"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "you will, that exists as this field. A"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "new school of thought suggests that"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "consciousness informs itself through its"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "creations, through its art, music,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "books, and movies. With this idea in"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "mind, when we look at the themes of some"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "of the most popular movies of our time,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "what are those movies telling us about"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "ourselves? If consciousness is informing"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "us of something that we need to know"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "about ourselves through the things that"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "we create to remind ourselves of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "ourselves, what are those films telling"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "us? Well, examples include hugely"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "popular movies like The Matrix, for"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "example, or Avatar or the movie"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Inception."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "What are films like these saying to us?"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "What part of our reality are they"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "reminding us of? Well, if we look at the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "common themes, they'll give us a clue."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "As different as they are from one"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "another, each of these movies is"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "suggesting number one that there is a"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "world that exists we simply cannot see"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "from our limited perspective. But this"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "world influences our everyday lives."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Number two, we're told that we're"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "limited in our lives only until we wake"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "up to the parameters of this unseen"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "world. Number three, they're telling us"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "that everyone has the ability to do just"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "that, to wake up and to transcend the"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "limits of their lives that begin with"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the events in the world that we can't"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "even see. The success of a recent movie,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "the 2017 movie Arrival, is another"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "beautiful example of what I mean here."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "And it opens the door to precisely what"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "I want to talk about in this episode."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "The theme of the arrival is so powerful"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "and maybe one of the most powerful,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "underrated, and perhaps hopeful messages"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "seen in modern times. 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You've seen the evidence that"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "tells us it is more likely than not that"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "we are living in a simulated world, in a"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "virtual universe. And you've seen the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "evidence that is telling you that you"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "have the potential to interact with this"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "universe, to interact with this reality"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "in ways that have seemed mystical in the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "past and reserved for the monks and the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "nuns and the abbots and the the shamans"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "uh living mystical lifestyles. 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We are now talking about"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "mystical connections and we are marrying"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "those connections with the best science"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "of the modern world to give us a new"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "view, an evolutionary edge to understand"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "what's happening in our world and beyond"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "that how we may direct the events of our"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "lives and the events of the world in a"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "positive powerful way. 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We exist somewhere outside of the"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "simulation and we are projecting our"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "energetic body, what we call our spirit"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "or our soul or our avatar into this"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "experience so that we can learn"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "something here that apparently we cannot"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "learn where we've come from and that"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "apparently we're going to need wherever"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "we are going. Now this is a really"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "really powerful concept. The idea that"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "we are not here and the biology actually"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "supports it. What the biology is showing"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "us is that our cells receive information"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "that defines who we are. The surface of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the cells, the receptors receive this"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "information. And that's why when we take"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "our cells and we put them into the body"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "of another person through an organ"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "transplant, for example, that person"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "rejects the cells because it's not them."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "We have an identity. That identity"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "begins somewhere beyond our simulation."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "And in terms of the ancient texts, that"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "is what was called heaven. When we leave"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "our simulation, we shift our"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "consciousness. We go back to where it is"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that we came from. And for me, I I"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "believe that and I think it's really"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "good news. It means that we will see our"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "friends and our loved ones again on the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "other side, what is called the veil. On"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the other side of that veil. And I I"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "hope that there's a time on that other"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "side that we can look back and review"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "everything we've done in this world and"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "hopefully laugh about some of the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "mistakes that we've made that we've made"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "while we were trying to learn about"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "ourselves in this simulation. So heaven"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "heaven I believe is the ancient word for"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the world that we live in that exists on"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the other side outside of the simulation"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "that we find ourselves in right now. So"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "the next question, what does that mean"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "for death? Where do we go when we die?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "If this simulation theory works the way"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "that the science suggests and the way"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "that I believe that the evidence is"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "directing us, it's really good news"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "because it means when we die, what we"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "call death is the end of this"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "representation of us in this limited"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "simulation. what we would call our"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "avatar. 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And what I find even more"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "interesting is that when those texts"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "talk about the creation of humans, they"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "say that a very specific formula of"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "human had to be created to hold the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "energy of the soul or the spirit in this"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "realm. Now what does that mean? 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And apparently not any"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "old formula of DNA was up to the task."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "So when we look into our past and we"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "find forms of life that were perhaps not"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "as conscious, not as evolved as us in"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the simulation idea, these are the forms"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "of life, the first forms. They were the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "early attempts to create the avatars in"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "this simulated world. But their genetic"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "makeup was not strong enough to hold the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "energy of the soul. You and I are the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "product of a genetic formula, a very"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "specific form of DNA. And apparently, it"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "is this form that's required to hold the"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "energy of the soul in this simulation"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "experience so that we could have the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "experiences, learn what we're learning,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "and maintain the consciousness that we"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "have as we go through our experience. So"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "once again, what we're doing is we're"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "taking these very ancient ideas and"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "we're rethinking them with a"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "contemporary language based on what the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "best science of the modern world is now"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "suggesting is the reality that we're"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "experiencing. So heaven, where do we go"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "when we die? What is God? All of these"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "now take on a new meaning. God, whoever"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "God is, apparently is the architect"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "uh that was a primary designer of this"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "simulation. And I'm looking forward to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "getting to the other side and meeting"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "that architect at some point in our"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "future."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> Then I think we have to look at what"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "those traditions are telling us. And"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "they're teaching us about our"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "relationship to reality uh to uh to"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "quantum reality to emotions and emotions"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "of the heart to create and heal in our"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "bodies and the world around us. And if"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "we master those maybe that's what this"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "simulation is all about. God eternal"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "within the body uh may be uh the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "architect that has helped to create this"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "simulation."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> Do you ever get frustrated that we don't"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "have the answers yet? I don't, George. I"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "don't because what it tells me is and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "what I've come to understand is that"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "when we are truly ready for that"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "information, it it's right there."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "this is a perfect example. This this has"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "been around, you know, for 200,000"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "years. That's only when"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> only to be discovered though by those"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "who look"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> or when our technology reaches the point"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "that it gives us the tools."}]

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So this is"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the place where we are now and it's the"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "place where the ancient the indigenous"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "traditions have always begun. They have"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "always started from the place that we"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "are part of everything that that we are"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "part of a greater existence that"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "everything is connected and they have"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "devoted their time rather than than"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "trying to explore and prove to"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "themselves this existence uh really is"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "there. 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And if we can, what is the"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "language that it understands?"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Well, the understandings uh in terms of"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "western science that this intelligent"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "field exists in late 1990s, early 2000s"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "uh is is when the the experiments"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "actually confirmed what Mox plank in"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "1944 stated the father of quantum"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "physics Mox plank actually said that the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "matter that we see in our world doesn't"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "exist. It says the stuff we're made out"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "of doesn't even exist and the world that"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "we see doesn't exist the way we believe"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "it does. What he he said was what we see"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "as matter is here because of the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "existence of what he called a conscious"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and intelligent mind. And these are his"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "precise words. And he followed that"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "statement by saying that underlying this"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "mind is the matrix of all matter. And"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "this is the coin he termed in 1944. Of"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "course the movie uh series was based on"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "the studies that came afterward but uh"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "it's actually been around since the mid"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "20th century. So this field, the matrix"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "or the divine matrix as it now is being"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "called is recognized is as the field of"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "intelligent nonconventional energy. It"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "doesn't work the way electricity or or"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "broadcast energy works. We identified"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "the science-based discovery of a field"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "of energy, a real life matrix that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "functions in three very precise ways."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "this matrix. Number one, it's the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "container for the universe itself and"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "for all things that can happen in the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "universe. Number two, it's the bridge"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "between our inner and our outer worlds."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Everything that happens from within, our"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "thoughts, feelings, emotions, and"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "beliefs are conveyed to the world beyond"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "our bodies through this field. Number"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "three, the mirror. The mirror. This"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "field is a mirror in the world for what"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "we claim to be true in our deepest"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "sometimes subconscious beliefs. Well,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "scientists are no longer asking the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "question, are we connected? The field"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "tells us that we are. Now, the question"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "is, how deeply are we connected? How"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "much influence do we really have in the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "world through this field? Well, there"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "are two very futuristic scientific"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "experiments that take us light years"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "beyond anything that we've believed and"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "science has accepted in the past. I want"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "to share those with you. What they are"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "showing, however, has opened the door to"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "a possibility that modern science is now"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "struggling with. So, let's take a look"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "at these two experiments. The first one"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "was published in the Russian bulletin of"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "the Leb Physics Institute 1992."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "And the experiment begins with something"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "seemingly very innocent, a glass vessel,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "a vase where all of the air has been"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "completely drawn out of this vessel to"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "create what we call a vacuum. So a"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "vacuum implies that this vessel is"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "empty. But we know it's not completely"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "empty because there are still little"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "photons of light that remain in this"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "vessel. Scientists know this. So the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "question now is where are those photons?"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "They want to get a baseline and see"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "where the photons are right now. So the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "first part of this experiment, they draw"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the air out of the vessel and then they"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "measure where these photons are in the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "vessel. Are they all piled up on the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "bottom? Are they floating around the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "inside? Are they all stuck to the edges?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "And what they found was no surprise. The"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "vessel showed that these photons are"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "completely random. They're completely"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "random. By the way, these are the same"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "kinds of photons, the particles of"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "matter that make up the atom itself. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "we're dealing with these fundamental"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "particles of the stuff that our world is"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "made of. And that's important. So the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "scientists found that the distribution"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "of the photons in this in this vessel"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "was completely random. No surprise"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "that's what they expected."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "The next piece of this experiment is"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "where while the experiment is"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "fascinating, what I find really"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "fascinating is the thinking of the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "scientists that made the experiment"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "possible. For a scientist trained in the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "scientific method based upon all of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "those false assumptions that we saw"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "earlier in this program, those"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "assumptions of of separation for the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "scientists to move out of that box of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "thinking and begin asking new questions"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "like what if our assumptions are wrong?"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "What would that tell us about our world?"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "That's where it gets really interesting"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "and that's what the next part of this"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "experiment is all about because what the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "scientists did was into the vessel that"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "had completely random photons they put"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "human DNA human DNA because they wanted"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "to see if human DNA has an effect on the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "photons. Before I go any further I just"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "going to invite you to think about what"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "they're asking. Photons are the stuff"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "this world is made of. DNA is the stuff"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "we're made of. And they're asking,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "scientists are asking in the laboratory,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "does the stuff we're made of have an"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "effect on the stuff our world is made"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "of. This is where it starts to sound"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "like science fiction or at least"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "something that an advanced yogi would be"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "working with. But these are in a"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "bonafide scientific laboratory. These"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "questions, this is where they're being"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "asked. So here's what they did. They"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "took human DNA and they placed it inside"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the vessel. And then they measured the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "DNA again to see what would happen. And"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "they measured the photons again to see"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "what would happen. And the results of"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "this experiment changed the way we have"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "been conditioned to think about"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "ourselves in the world because the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "photons went from being completely"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "random when they were first measured and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "in the presence of the human DNA. The"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "photons are no longer random. They are"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "ordered. They followed precisely the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "geometry of the DNA. The DNA was having"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "a direct effect on the photons. The"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "stuff we're made of is having a direct"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "effect on the stuff our world is made"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "of. Just like some of our most ancient"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "and cherished indigenous and spiritual"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "traditions have always told us that we"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "are connected to the world. So this is"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the first experiment. Human DNA has a"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "measurable effect on the stuff our world"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "is made of. And I want you to see I want"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "you to see the way the scientists"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "responded to this. So I'm going to read"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "this to you directly. In the journal"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Nanobiology and this published in 1995,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the way the scientists described this,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they said that the photons were"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "described as behaving and this is a"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "quote surprisingly and"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "counterintuitively."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Counterintuitively. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "counterintuitive because the scientific"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "thinking is that everything is separate"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "from everything else. And there is no"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "stuff to convey any effect from the DNA"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "to the matter. That's why it's"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "counterintuitive to the science. But the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "next piece is what I find particularly"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "interesting. I'm going invite you listen"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "to the language. It says we are forced"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "to accept the possibility."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "They're saying that they are forced."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "They're not saying it looks like or it"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "appears or this is what we found."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "They're saying we are forced to accept"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the possibility that some new field of"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "energy is being excited by the DNA."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Well, I think we know it's not a new"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "field. It's a field that's been around a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "long time. It's simply that we are just"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "now recognizing that field and what it"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "means to us. So the summary of this"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "second experiment is that science now"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "confirms that human DNA influences the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "stuff our world is made of through the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "photons by communicating directly"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "through the field. That's a big piece."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "But now let me go to the second"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "experiment."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "This experiment was published in the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Journal of Scientific Exploration in"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "1994."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "It begins"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "with human DNA once again and this is a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "very precise kind of human DNA. It comes"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "from umbilical cords of newborns because"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "that DNA is what's called very pristine"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "DNA. It hasn't been eroded over time as"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "happens as we mature in life. So it's a"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "very pristine kind of DNA and the DNA is"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "isolated in one vessel and that is"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "encased in another vessel to make sure"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "that there are no other influences that"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "are are are happening from outside to"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "influence the DNA. You've seen the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "evidence that tells us it is more likely"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "than not that we are living in a"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "simulated world, in a virtual universe."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "And you've seen the evidence that is"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "telling you that you have the potential"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "to interact with this universe, to"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "interact with this reality in ways that"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "have seemed mystical in the past and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "reserved for the monks and the nuns and"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "the abbotts and the the shamans. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "living mystical lifestyles. Now we know"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "we don't need to live on a monastery"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "halfway around the world and leave"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "everything familiar to us, our loved"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "ones, our jobs, our families to embrace"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "these seemingly mystical powers. Because"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "when we understand the relationships, we"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "demystify the experience and the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "contemporary language of science. We are"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "now talking about mystical connections"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "and we are marrying those connections"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "with the best science of the modern"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "world to give us a new view, an"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "evolutionary edge to understand what's"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "happening in our world and beyond that"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "how we may direct the events of our"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "lives and the events of the world in a"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "positive powerful way. When we leave our"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "simulation, we shift our consciousness."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "we go back to where it is that we came"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "from. And for me, I I believe that and I"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "think it's really good news. It means"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "that we will see our friends and our"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "loved ones again on the other side, what"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "is called the veil, on the other side of"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "that veil. And I I hope that there's a"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "time on that other side that we can look"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "back and review everything we've done in"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "this world and hopefully laugh about"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "some of the mistakes that we've made"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "that we've made while we were trying to"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "learn about ourselves in this"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "simulation. So heaven, heaven I believe"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "is the ancient word for the world that"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "we live in that exists on the other side"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "outside of the simulation that we find"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "ourselves in right now. So the next"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "question, what does that mean for death?"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Where do we go when we die?"}]

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The transhuman"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "movement is the movement to do just"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "that. And these next five years are"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "critical. Our story uh defines the way"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the way that we are in the world. So, we"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "live our lives based upon our story, the"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "way we're conditioned to think about"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "ourselves. Everybody has a story that"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "begins before we're even born in our our"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "mother's womb. The epigenetic factors"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "are determining our [clears throat] our"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "subconscious story. Uh the way that our"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "friends and our family and our peers and"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "our school and our church teach us to"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "deal with the world, that's all part of"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "our story. And based upon our story, our"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "story defines every relationship we'll"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "ever have. So every relationship, every"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "friend that we'll ever have, every human"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "that we invite into our bed is a"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "reflection of the story that we have"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "told ourselves about ourselves and"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "believe. This is the key. What story do"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "you believe? Many people tell themselves"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "stories, but they don't even believe"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "their own stories."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Those are called affirmations. You can"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "say the affirmations a million times a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "day if you don't believe that you are"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "worthy of a perfect mate. If you don't"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "believe that you're worthy of the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "healing, I honor the left brain."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Everyone has a left brain to some"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "degree. Everyone learns differently. Not"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "everyone learns the same. Not everyone"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "wants to hear everything that I just"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "shared with you. But if someone is"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "looking for the reason to think"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "differently, they're saying, \"Greg, give"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "me a reason to think differently about"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "myself.\" I'm sharing with you in the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "book a lot more detail, but I'm sharing"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the science that that shows us that we"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "are a soft technology. We're not a frail"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "uh biological flawed biological form of"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "life subject to flaws. We have very very"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "few flaws. Our body performs"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "with what it's given to work with. Our"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "our body is a reflection. And Candace"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Per the um the Harvard MD said this"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "molecules emotion she actually said your"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "body is your subconscious mind because"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "what you believe about yourself is"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "creating the chemicals in the body. So I"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "as a as a a child had to"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "reconcile what I felt what I would call"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "my my soul compass because"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "uh it wasn't supported in my community."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "people didn't talk like this and uh and"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "it sent me on a journey to understand"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "myself and that led me on a journey to"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "understand our past. two very powerful"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "stories uh experience. I was I was 14."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "So now I've left home. I'm in living"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "with my band and I go to see my first"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "rock concert. It was a group uh that was"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "called Jefferson Airplane. And the lead"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "singer was this stunningly beautiful"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "woman named Grace Slick is her name."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "She's still alive today. And I sat on"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "the front row and yelled at Grace Slick"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "and told her how much I loved her. And"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "she completely blew me off. But I"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "watched in that room there were about"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "30,000 people and I watched them moved"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "by what a couple of people did on that"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "stage. But here's here's the thing. Then"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the concert was over and we left"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "and everyone"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "needed to have something to recreate"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "that experience. At that time they were"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "eight track tapes or albums. They needed"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "something to recreate that. Weeks later"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "I had another experience. And I'm not"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "saying I'm aligned with the message."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "There was an evangelist named Billy"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Graham, a powerful, powerful speaker. He"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "spoke to 70,000 people in the Kansas"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "City Athletics Stadium, outdoor stadium."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "And here's the difference. When those"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "people left,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "they felt differently about themselves."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "They didn't need anything to recreate"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "the feeling because his words had helped"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "them to sense and to feel and to see"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "themselves differently than they did"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "before they went in to hear that. What I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "recognized as a kid, I said, I I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "know exactly how I'm going to do this,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "but I think there is there is a way our"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "words"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the words are so powerful. I mean, when"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "you think about what we do with words,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "we breathe the breath from outside of"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "us. We invite it into our bodies. We"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "begin to flutter our diaphragm. We push"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the air back over the direction it just"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "came down from. And as it's moving back,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "we begin to flutter our vocal cords in"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "just the right way. Listen to this. To"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "ref the thoughts and the feelings that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "we're having as acoustic waveforms so"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "they can leave our bodies and fall on"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "the skin and onto the eardrums of"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "another living being to convey our"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "deepest, most intimate experiences."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Nobody could see our thought, but we're"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "converting the thought into acoustic"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "waveforms through the air that we're"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "forcing back and and the ability to to"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "modulate our vocal cords in just the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "right way to create those acoustic"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "patterns and then they leave our bodies."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "My words have left my body. Now they're"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "falling on you. They're touching your"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "skin. They're they're touching your"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "eardrums and you your nervous system is"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "now interpreting my thoughts and and we"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "are so good at it. We don't give it a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "second. Once we give our humanness, once"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "we give our biology away, we'll never"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "get it back and we become something very"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "different. This is what Ray Kerszgewhile"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "is talking about and it's what the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "others are talking about. But it comes"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "down to something even deeper than that."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "And if you're going to do a sound bite,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "maybe this is going to be the sound bite"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "because because not everybody's in to"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the good and evil. Not everybody's into"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the technology and all of that. Comes"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "down to love. The question that we all"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "ask ourselves, do we love ourselves"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "enough to accept the gift of our"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "humanness"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and the responsibility that comes with"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "being a human and our divinity,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "expressing our divinity fearlessly in"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "this world? That's the question we're"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "all asking ourselves. And without a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "verbal answer, the choices that we make,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "the politics that we choose, the medical"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "systems that we choose, the food that we"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "eat, the wars that we create, or the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "peace that we create are the answer to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "that question. We're all answering it"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "right now, but how can you answer it if"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "you don't know the context? So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "going to go back. Good and evil, a"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "battle between good and evil. This is a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "very different battle. You don't win"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "this battle. It's not the kind of battle"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "that you win by fighting. We don't want"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "to win. We want to triumph. And the way"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "you triumph, and this is the beauty, you"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "don't have to know any of this. The way"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "we triumph is by living the best version"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "of ourselves. We live our humanness. We"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "live our divinity. We love fearlessly."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "We innovate. We create. We forgive"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "without expectation."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "When we do that forgiveness, we do all"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "of those things. And by doing that, that"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "is the very oppos the evil wants to"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "defeat us by separating us from those"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "expressions. When we live them, we have"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "triumph. And I think that's the beauty"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "of where we are right now. It has to"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "begin with knowing that you have a"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "choice. First of all, people believe"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "that there is no choice because they"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "have been conditioned and indoctrinated"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "to believe that they are powerless"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "victims of a world around them that they"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "have no control over and that they are a"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "flawed form of life that needs something"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "outside of their body. Right? So"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "knowledge is power. You have to be"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "willing to embrace the deep truth of"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "your humanness and your divinity. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "very difficult to break through those"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "patterns if you are not willing to"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "accept the truth of your humanness and"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "the power and responsibility that comes"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "with being a human on this earth. And"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "we're given very few reasons to do that"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "in our lives. And our school children"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "are given very few reasons to do that."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "And that's why they've lost respect in"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "many cases for their bodies. They don't"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "have a sense of a future because the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "indoctrination is telling them they live"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "in a world where it's hopeless. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "what it's telling them. Now, I with the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "exception of the drugs, I've been I've"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "been we were so we were more than poor"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "and my father finally left. He left when"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "I was 10, fortunately. Uh tough for my"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "mom raising two two boys. She didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "have a job. This was uh 19 early 1960s."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Uh I lied about my age. I went to work"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "in a copper mill so I could be a union"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "worker. After school, I worked union"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "hours, 4:00 a.m. to or 4 4 p.m. to 4:00"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "a.m. There were 12-hour shifts. We lived"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "in government subsidized housing uh for"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "most of my teen years until until I I"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "left and then I was forced to go back."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "At the age of 14, I left. Uh the court"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "intervened and said, \"You have to go"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "back until you're 18 or you become a"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "ward of the state.\" So, I I went back."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "We lived in government subsidized"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "housing. Uh, and it's one of those"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "things you can hear the words from a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "million different people. You have to"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "find a reason to become more than the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "circumstances of your past. You have to"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "find that reason for yourself. And"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "that's why the information that's it's"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "more than just data. When I can show"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "someone"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "the potential within their bodies to"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "look at it differently, when I can show"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "someone what their divinity is really"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "all about and that it's it's so valuable"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "that nations will create wars to divert"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "and distract us. What is it within us"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that could possibly warrant that extreme"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "of hurt and suffering? It's because we"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "are so valuable and so precious to"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "recognize that the that potential is"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "there and that we are rare and precious"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "and beautiful and ancient and sacred"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "form of life. No one's telling our young"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "people that at all."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "You know,"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "we see this in religious traditions"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "where the human body is often called the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "temple. in in biblical traditions, other"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "traditions. From that perspective, if"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "someone is biblically inclined, I think"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "it's um 1 Corinthians"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "13, I think, that says, \"Know ye not"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "that you're the temple"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "uh of of God.\" What does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "when we go to Egypt, we go to Greece, we"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "go to many of these ancient"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "civilizations. When they build temples,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "they build them in layers."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "uh and the innermost sanctum is where"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "the most precious secrets and the wisdom"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "are always kept. For example, the ark of"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the covenant in Solomon's temple wasn't"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "like by the doorway when you walk in."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "You had to go through layers and only"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "certain people were allowed in there."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Well, from that perspective, if the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "human body is a temple, those ancient"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "traditions, that innermost sanctum was"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "called the holy of holies is the term"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "that's given. the Holy of Holies. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "where the ark was kept in Solomon's"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "temple. We as a as a temple, as a human"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "body temple, have not one holy of"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "holies. We have 50 trillion holy of"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "holies because the nucleus of every cell"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "in our body holds the information that"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "reminds us that we are not what we've"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "been told. We're so much more than we've"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "been led to believe. And we have a"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "choice. And this is what sets us apart"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "from all of the forms of life. Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "there are techniques that we teach. You"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "can't change what's happened to us. I"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "can't change the hurt for my past. And"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "what I've experienced is nothing"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "compared to what many of my brothers and"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "sisters on this planet have experienced."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "The trauma creates the chemicals in the"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "body. There are techniques to release"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that trauma. And once it's released"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "chemically, then what remains is the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "emotional remedies."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "It doesn't make a lot of sense to go"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "through the emotional"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "remedies"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "and within the context of of chemical"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "trauma in the body. So, I would"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "recommend exploring techniques to"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "release the trauma. And what I have"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "found most effective, we do this in our"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "4-day programs. I'm not here to talk"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "about that but I want people to know"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "these are available. There are forms of"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "breath work. The breath work is a"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "lubricant. It's an emotional lubricant"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "that frees those neuropeptides to move"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "through the body. There are emotional"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "freedom techniques EFT"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "uh for some specific forms of trauma"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "tapping techniques uh people have used."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "Therapy"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "can work to a limited degree. And I want"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "to I want to back that statement up."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "1991, scientists discovered"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "40,000 specialized cells in the human"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "heart. Now, I say discovered, they'd"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "always been there, but no one thought to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "look because they're they're essentially"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "neurons. Why would you look for a neuron"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "that you know is in the brain? Why would"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "you even look into the heart? Well, they"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "found a a neural network in the heart."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "So what that means is when we have"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "trauma we experience it in two places"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "and the neural network in the heart"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "thinks feels remembers and emotes"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "independently of the cranial brain. So"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "that means the trauma that we experience"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "throughout our lives including me and"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "coming from an abusive alcoholic family"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "that trauma is instilled if it's"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "unresolved in both places. So, I can go"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "to a therapist and talk about my trauma"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "from the polarity of my left and right"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "brain. That's the ego. And the brain,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "because it's a polarity organ, it does"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "what it always does. The brain will"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "always see your trauma in polarity."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "Good, bad, right, wrong, success,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "failure, worthy, not worthy. That's what"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "the brain does. The beauty of being able"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "to access trauma from the heart is the"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "heart is not in polarity. And there are"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "techniques called, for example, heartb"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "brain coherence. Some of your guests"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "have talked. I know my brother Dr. Joe,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "he and I used to teach together. I was"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "using it in my programs. He began using"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "in his programs is very successful. He's"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "taken it light years beyond uh where"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "where uh we were working together in the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "past because it works. And when you can"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "begin"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "to experience the trauma without the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "judgment, the polarity of the rightness"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "or the wrongness or the goodness, how"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "could they do that to me or I was"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "betrayed or how could she have done that"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "or how could he? That's what keeps us"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "locked in the trauma. The breath work,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "the beauty of the coherence work is that"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "you don't have to say any words. You"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "don't have to describe it to someone."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "you don't have to relive it to because"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "every time you relive that trauma, what"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "you're doing is you're strengthening the"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "neural network that's hanging on to that"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "trauma. Uh, and really what you want to"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "do is to free the neuropeptides that"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "were created from that. So to be able to"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "release physically release that trauma"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "is where I personally in in my journey"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "I'm what I'm describing you is my"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "journey."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "And from that knowing that we are"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "chemically free of the trauma there's an"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "emotional component that says ah you"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "know you feel different. What I invite"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "people to do in our our 4-day programs"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "is take a picture of their own eyes"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "before we go through this process. And"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "the process involves what we're doing"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "now. It's information to give them"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "reasons to think differently. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "techniques and it's it's breathing uh"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "and other things that go with that. And"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "then take pictures afterwards. Cherokee"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "was also a holocaust. Uh they were"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "victims of the hol that the Trail of"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Tears experience that was still"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "epigenetically. Those things are are"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "passed down and I can't change what"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "happened. But I have worked and I I"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "will. It's it's not an event. The"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "healing is never an event. It's a"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "process. It's a journey. We're already"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "healed or we wouldn't be here. And we"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "are seeking deeper levels of healing."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "And I think that's important for people"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "to realize. Our our bodies are wired to"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "heal. We are constantly healing."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Healing is our nature. Every organ in"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "the human body is now documented with"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "the ability to stop the damage that's"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "been incurred to reverse that damage and"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "actually to heal and regrow telomeres,"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "for example, on the DNA. Even the organs"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "that we were told could not, pancreatic"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "tissue, heart tissue, brain tissue, we"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "were told couldn't. and and all of them"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "have been documented with the ability to"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "do this Lewis. And here's the catch."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "There is a catch."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "They have to be given the environment"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "initiate that healing to create that"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "healing. And the environment is the"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "emotional environment that has the"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "greatest impact. We have to feel that we"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "are worthy of that healing. Divinity"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "is the reason for that worth. And we"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "understand our divine nature and it has"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "again nothing to do with religion."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "People will link religion to it if they"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "want to. That's fine. That's fine."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "But go back to the definition. The the"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "ability to transcend perceived"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "limitations. That is a powerful powerful"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "facet. The knowledge is a code. Once you"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "see a potential about your body, you"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "can't unsee it. Now you have a choice."}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "You can deny it. We have free will. We"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "can deny divinity. Everyone has"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "divinity. But not everyone will express"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "their divinity. We have the ability to"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "deny our own. And many people will. They"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "will they will say they're not worthy"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "that they don't have the power. We can"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "have our divinity taken from us by those"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "who have power over us. Uh"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "conditioned out of us. And that happens"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "through an abusive family relationship."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "Technology can steal our divinity"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "because think about this. Divinity"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "doesn't live in the body. We have to be"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "able to communicate with the part of us"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that doesn't live in here. Science is"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "struggling with this. How did the neuron"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "know how to play pong? There's a part of"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "that game that's not in the neuron."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "There's a part of us that's not in the"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "body. That's what it's telling us. So,"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "we have to be able, this is why now more"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "than ever, I mean, it's always important"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "to be healthy. These next five years,"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "we've got to be healthier than we've"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "ever ever been in our lives because we"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "need every iota, every ounce of our"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "biology, our humanness, so that we can"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "fully express our divinity, so that we"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "can love. We're going to love this"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "world. And there is a component about"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "who you surround yourself with. If you"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "want to trans transcend without judging"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "but if you want to transcend a violent"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "or hurtful past then you seek community"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "forensic community can be one person"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "doesn't have to be an ashram you know"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "for some people it is but you seek those"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "that uh that will support your vision"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "consciously or unconsciously"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "and we do that in life. This is what"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "relationships are all about. We will all"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "our prime directive is to be whole. We"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "will seek our wholeness by being in"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "relationships with those who have the"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "parts of us that we've lost, given away"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "or had taken from us by those who have"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "power over us. So, so now we're talking"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "about energetic energetic imprints. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "when we find a partner and we know this,"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "we'll actually say the words. We'll say,"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "\"Man, I feel really good when I'm with"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "you.\" or I feel whole or you're my"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "better half or I feel complete. Those"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "are all and we're we're being very"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "honest because when we're with them,"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "think of it like a puzzle."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "My father, for example, attempted"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "through criticism to denigrate and"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "demean my capabilities. And he he did to"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "some degree, but I I didn't believe a"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "lot of it. But I, as a musician, I would"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "seek out a community. And when I was"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "with other people that believed in"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "themselves and they they had the guts to"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "walk up on that stage and own that stage"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "and pull out that guitar and blast those"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "vocals where I felt very self-conscious"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "because I had been taught that I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "worthy of of that. And by by being"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "around other people, you know, you say"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "it doesn't have to be an intimate sexual"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "relationship. It can be. And that's"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "where we usually learn the fastest"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "because that intimacy goes right to the"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "core vulnerability. It's the fast track"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "to a deep healing or it's a fast track"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "to a deep wound. And I I have multiple"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "divorces to attest to that because we"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "all learn and grow differently, you"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "know, in life. So, we're seeking that"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "wholeness and and I think if someone"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "wants that healing to remain in a"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "community with others who have poor"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "self-esteem, poor vision of themselves,"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "who hate their bodies, wake up in the"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "morning and actually some people say to"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "themselves they they they hate their"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "bodies and all they want to do is get"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "out of here. They want to get off this"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "planet. Those are not conducive to the"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "healing. And there's actually an"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "energetic component. there is a a"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "consciousness an energetic component."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "The Institute of Heart Math uh I've"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "worked with uh since the year of their"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "inception 1994 95. One of the things"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "they found was that around every"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "physical heart there's an energetic"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "blueprint. There's an a field that's"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "extends between 3 and 5T."}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": ">> And and I asked them once I said, \"Man,"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "if the heart's so powerful, why does it"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "stop at 5T?\" And they said, \"Oh, well"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "that's the limitation of the equipment.\""}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "They said on the quantum level in all"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "probability our hearts are influencing"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "the world around us on an infinite level"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "on the quantum level. So when you're"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "healing to surround yourself with people"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "who have a a healthier I mean not I"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "don't think anyone's 100% but to have a"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "healthier sense"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "of self and a deep respect and a"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "reverence for life and for their bodies."}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "That field is going to influence your"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "body. And it's one of those thing I can"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "talk about it but you have to experience"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "it. And here's here's what it'll feel"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "like. You'll just start feeling"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "different. something in you is going to"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "say, you know what, that's not for me."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "That shift is the awakening of that"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "divinity and a deep respect and"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "appreciation for the human body because"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "we all know we're here, if you're here"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "now, we're here for a really special"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "time to advocate for our divinity in the"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "presence of a field or evil, if you want"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "to think of it that way, that wants to"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "steal it from us. We're here to claim"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "it. and that little shift. Or maybe"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "somebody will offer you a big greasy"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "burger and big greasy fries with a heap"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "of ketchup that you would have done"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "anything for a week earlier. And you"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "look at that and your body feels"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "different and that and you have to"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "listen to that because that's your body"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "saying I'm worth more. I'm worth more"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "than what this food is going to do to my"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "body. Because the meal is not about"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "filling the empty space."}]

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I'm going to say at that"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "time and even to this moment, I have yet"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "to see any technology built in the world"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "around us that does not mimic what we"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "already do in the cells and the systems"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "of our body. And in many cases, we meet"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "and exceed the capacities. We do it"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "better about what is it that we're about"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "to give away. Our humanness is under"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "attack right now. We are the product of"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "multiple generations. We're to be human."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "The idea of our human has been"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "denigrated. It has been degraded. We are"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "teaching our young people in school"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "right now. Young people are being taught"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "that carbon-based life in general and"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "humans specifically are flawed among our"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "flaws."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Emotion uh because emotion clouds"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "sometimes our logic and our ability to"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "think clearly. 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AI, computer chips,"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "chemicals in the blood, RFID chips under"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the skin, sensors in the body, nanobots."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "So the the idea this 2030 this was um"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "reflecting a statement by Ray"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Kerszswhile. Ray Kerszswe I think some"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "of our viewers know he's he's an author"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "he's a visionary he's a futurist he is"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "heading up AI research at Google right"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "now and he made two statements that I"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "think are uh are relevant to this"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "conversation. He said by the year 2030"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "when we talk to someone on the street we"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "will no longer be talking to a pure"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "human. We will be talking to someone who"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "has either embraced or been mandated to"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "have some kind of technology accepted in"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "into their bodies. So by 2030 we will be"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "speaking to human hybrids. By the year"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "2045"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "uh he says we will have achieved what he"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "just wrote his most recent book about"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "something called the singularity. The"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "singularity is essentially the internet"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "of all things where we have become a a"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "digital representation of ourselves in"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "this internet of all things along with"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the world around us. All of our natural"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "resources, every form of wildlife, all"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the food we eat, the energy we consume,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "everything will be uh in this massive"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "database run by artificial intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "that is already being built. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "already underway. So, I wrote a book"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "called Pure Human. And and I wrote this"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "book to advocate for our our humanness"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "to to celebrate and maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "maybe awaken a deeper sense of pride for"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "what it means to be human and a deeper"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "appreciation for our humanness. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "ashamed to share. I'm I'm the product of"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "u of a very dysfunctional, abusive,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "alcoholic family. Um I was born in 1950s"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "and the idea of uh abuse and addiction"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "and counseling and therapy were very"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "different in the ' 50s and60s. I was"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "raised in an environment where the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "abuser will typically"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "uh belittle and criticize those around"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "them to elevate their sense of of worth."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "And fortunately I was born with a very"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "strong soul compass. I didn't believe"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "what I was being told. I have a young I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "have a younger brother, four years"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "younger, same household, same"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "experience, you know, listening to the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "same things and and he's a good man and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "I love my younger brother and we're like"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "night and day. If you were in this room,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "we don't look alike. We certainly don't"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "think alike. And unfortunately, he"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "believed everything that he heard and"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and has chosen to be defined in his life"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "by that criticism. And I I can't say"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "consciously"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "when I made the decision, but I remember"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "thinking I I will not be defined by my"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "father's idea of who I am because I was"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "blessed as again with with a strong soul"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "soul compass. I'm not saying I did it"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "all right. You know, for me in the in"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "the 50s and 60s, music was my my outlet."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "And uh I began playing guitar at 8. Play"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "it to this day. I'm a musician when I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "not doing what I'm doing right now. And"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "uh I I left our home at the age of 14,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "which now I think is probably illegal,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "but I I moved in with my rock band. And"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "uh and during that time, the the drugs"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "were abundant. And I watched beautiful,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "talented men and women. We had a female"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "vocalist. I saw their lives destroyed in"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "a matter of months through the chemicals"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "that they put into their bodies. And you"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "know, Lewis, I I didn't know then"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "obviously what I know now, but I always"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "had a sense there's something about us"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that is so rare and so beautiful that we"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "need to honor and and respect this gift"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "of the body. And I had a sense I would"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "need this body for something later in"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "life. And my my friends didn't think"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "that way. So, it was hard to have these"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "conversations. But I was always looking"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "to see what it is within me. How can I"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "be the best version of myself? How can I"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "serve? How can I serve this world? And I"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "leave this world. I don't know how long"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "I'm here. We we never do. I feel good."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "And I I think I'm here for a while, but"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "the day that I leave, when I look back,"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "I want to know that I left no stone"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "unturned. And that I gave to and loved"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "this world to the best of my ability,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "knowing what I know. And I do. I love"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "this world. and the people of this"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "world. We're going through a tough time"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "right now, man. It's a tough time. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "not just America. It's everybody in the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "world. And what I want our viewers to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "know is it's not going to last forever."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "And and it's not random. It's not"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "spontaneous. There's a structure. We are"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "moving rapidly toward the close of a"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "cycles within cycles. There are"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "cosmological cycles that shift our"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "planet. There are geological cycles that"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "I studied as a degree geologist. There"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "are financial cycles, there are economic"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "cycles, there are conflict and war"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "cycles. And many people don't know that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "that conflict and war are actually"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "driven um by natural rhythms. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "the magnetic fields of the sun influence"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the earth. They influence our heart rate"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "variability. They influence our sleep"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "patterns. They influence uh blood"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "pressure. All those things. So, they're"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "all converging now. Uh and they appear"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "to be converging around the year 2030."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "uh we need to to tread on territory that"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "many of uh my peers are not comfortable"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "talking about and uh and I'm happy to do"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "that and I want to do it in a a really"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "good and a responsible way. The year"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "2030 for example, the United Nations has"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "identified 2030 is the year they want to"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "remake society and remake the world"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "through what are called the 17"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "sustainable development goals. The World"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Economic Forum has identified 2030 as"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the target date for for their vision,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "their vision of what they want the world"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "to look like. This is a a very"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "concerning relationship. So now we're"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "covering a lot of ground. Let's just"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "back up. WF, World Economic Forum,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "independent non-elected individuals."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "They started meeting in 1971. Davos,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Switzerland, we all hear about the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "meetings every year. and they've always"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "met to have, you know, their"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "conversations about what they feel what"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "these elites feel that our our lives and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "our world should look like and they have"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "every right to do that. No problem until"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "2019."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Now the United Nations has had uh a"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "series of programs beginning uh they"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "started then there was a UN SDG"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "uh or the sustainable development goals"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "SDG for the year 2000. Their 15-year"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "plan that expired in 15 and now they're"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "looking another 15 years which expires"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "in 2030. Global health for families,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "global health for children. Who doesn't"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "want those things? Now you read the fine"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "print of how they plan to achieve those"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "goals and it is horrendous. It is it is"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "a remaking of uh of social structure of"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "family and society."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Social engineering to a degree we've"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "never seen in our world before and"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "leading to a world of centralized power"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "and control. So let me I'll just give"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "you an example. Food security. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "wants food security uh on down without"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "you know 100%. Now you read the fine"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "print. You would think they would want"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "to help small agrarian families in rural"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "areas throughout the world. Their idea"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "of food security is to pump money into"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the big pharma uh and the big"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "agriculture corporate farms GMO uh seeds"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "GMO insects to to take care of these"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "things. And what's happening is the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "little farmers are being forced out out"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "of business uh in the the rural areas,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "not just of America. This is happening"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "all all over the world. And we are the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "prize, Lewis. This is what I want to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "say. I want our viewers to know. I want"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "people to have a deeper appreciation"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "and and be proud of our humanness"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "because it's through our humanness"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "that we have access to something that no"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "other form of life has. And that is I'll"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "I'll use the word and then I'll define"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "it and then we can have a conversation"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "about the word is is human divinity."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "For many people divinity is linked with"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "religion. And I can see why. There are"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "schools you know of divinity that have"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "been that have uh been built to to make"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "that association. But the contemporary"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "definition of divinity has nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "with religion."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "It it literally reads divinity is the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "ability to transcend perceived"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "limitations."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> Transcend means to become more than"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "perceived. I love this. They may not"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "even be real. We may be living limits in"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "our lives. And as a 14-year-old boy from"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "a dysfunctional alcoholic family, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "told what my limits as a man, as a"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "human, would be. And this is where I"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "began to push against those limits and"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "test those limits. Now, I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "then obviously what I know now, but the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "ability to to transcend the limits that"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "we've been indoctrinated through family,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "culture, society, science, uh, medicine"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "have all led us to believe we've got"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "limits. And here's the thing, new"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "discoveries are blowing the doors off"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "every one of those limits. Consciousness"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "informs itself through its creations."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "The technology that we're building in"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "the world around us is reminding us that"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "we are that technology. That within us,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "we have the capabilities"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "as what we now call soft technology. Not"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "computer chips and chemicals in the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "blood and wires under the skin. We're"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "more than that. We're human. We're"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "neurons and we're DNA and we're cell"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "membranes. And we have the ability to"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "self-regulate this soft technology in a"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "way that no other form of life has. And"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "here's the beauty, and this is every"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "every guest you've ever had is hitting"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "on one facet of of this technology."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "When I was in the industry, what I"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "learned is the more complex"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "a system is, the simpler the user"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "interface. You've probably seen that. I"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "mean, pick up a cell phone,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> you you you touch the screen and man,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "you could pay your bills and talk to"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "your friends and you never even you"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "never typed the letter. So, our user"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "interface is like that and it is the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "subject of our most ancient and"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "cherished spiritual traditions,"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "thoughts, feelings, emotions, breath,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "focus, nutrient and movement. That's our"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "user interface. When we know how to"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "bring those together in the right in"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "just the right way, we are awakening the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "potential of a soft technology that was"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "given to no other form of life. And it's"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "it's a very different way of thinking."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "So divinity is we're covering a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "ground here. Divinity is the essence of"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "our humanness. Divinity is the part of"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "us that's timeless. It's ageless. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "where our love begins. That's where our"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "sympathy, empathy, compassion,"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "forgiveness, understanding. It's where"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "our healing begins is our divinity."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "So there is a concerted movement now to"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "veil us from our own divinity, to steal"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "that power from us. Because when we are"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "no longer connected with our divinity,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "we are more vulnerable to fear, more"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "vulnerable to the agendas and the ideas"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "of others. and more willing to accept"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "other people's views of what our lives"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "and what our world should look like. It"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "wasn't safe in my family to reject"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "anything. If you've been around"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "alcoholism that's very unpredictable,"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "you know, your father comes home, you"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "never know which father you're going to"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "get. You never know how"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> how your conversation is going to be"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "heard or responded to. We're exploring,"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "getting into the nitty-gritty of the"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "power of human divinity and why we want"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "it and what happens if we give it away."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "If we give our humanness away, we no"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "longer have the abilities that I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "going to share right now. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "it's it's part of the conversation."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "First of all, when when someone feels"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "that, it's always good to get it checked"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "out because you don't know unless it's"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "happened in the past and you recognize"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "this is exactly what happened in the"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "past. Fortunately, we live in a city"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "where we had uh it's a small Santa Fe,"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "New Mexico. It's not a big 80,000"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "people, you know, it's not a big"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "community, but we had and I had good"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "good medical care. Um"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "to answer the question, we have to"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "understand what's really happening."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "every emotion that we've ever had in our"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "lives from the moment even before we"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "emerged into the world through the birth"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "canal while we're still in the womb."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Every emotion that we're having has a"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "chemical equivalent that is called"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Candace Per was the first Harvard"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "trained medical physician that linked"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "emotion in chemicals in the body and in"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "a scientific way. I had the honor of"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "knowing her before she passed in 2013."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "uh she wrote a book called Molecules of"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Emotion. I'm sure a lot of your viewers"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "are are familiar with that. And she"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "identified these chemicals are called"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "neuropeptides."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "Neuropeptides typically will be created"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "by the emotion and they metabolize"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "through the body. No big deal. Unless"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "we're having an emotion that we can't"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "resolve, then the neuropeptides, our"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "bodies are so smart, the neuropeptides"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "will stay in the body. The body will"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "actually store the neuropeptides and"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "this is where it gets really interesting"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "in the organs, tissues and glands that"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "we associate with our trauma. And"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "everyone has trauma and everyone's"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "trauma your trauma you might have a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "trauma and I'd look at and say what's"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the big deal because my filters"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "interpret it differently or I would have"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "a trauma and and you would look at and"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "say come on Greg you know suck it up and"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "get over it because your filters are"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "different but we all have trauma and"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "it's personalized and those"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "neuropeptides will stay with us 10"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "minutes or 70 years to resolve the the"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "the trauma. Sometimes they'll give you a"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "little nudge to let you know they're"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "still there. It might be a little"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "irritation. It might be a rash in the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "body or inflammation or swelling and and"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "we will take a pill or put on a cream to"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "to make the symptom go away, but that"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "neuropeptide is still there. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "they'll say, \"Well, maybe you need a"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "little bit more"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "little bit more uh of a nudge.\" And then"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "we start developing symptoms of things"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "that we call illness and disease. But"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "this is this is so fascinating to me"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "because the science is showing us rarely"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "do our bodies break. Rarely do we have"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "illness and disease in the way we think"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "we have it. What we are experiencing is"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "our body in the presence of the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "conditions the epigenetic conditions"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "that we've given it to work with. It can"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "be nutrition, it can be environment and"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "the most powerful environment is the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "emotional environment. 90 over 90% is"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "the emotional environment. So rather"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "than saying our bodies are broken"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "which ruins the trust that we have in"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "our bodies, it's useful to say what what"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "am I giving my body to work with? What"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "what is the environment the emot and"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "sometimes emotional environment is a"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "subconscious in my case it was"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "subconscious. I had a subconscious fear"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "uh of not being safe"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "because I wasn't when I was a child."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "First seven years of a human life, we"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "are in an altered state of"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "consciousness. It's actually called a"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "hypnogogic state is the the term that"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "psychologists use where we have very few"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "if any filters. We are absorbing"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "behavior patterns from our caregivers."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "This is nature's way of preparing us for"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "life. Nature believes that we're going"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "to be in the same environment that our"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "parents are. So, we learned from our"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "parents how to deal with conflict and"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "how to treat people that you like and"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "how to treat people you don't like. And"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "they would say, \"Give us your sons"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "because it was a male organization."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "Give us your sons until the age of seven"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "and they'll be ours forever.\" So, what"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "they meant, give them to us for the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "first seven years. They can go home to"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "you, but they won't want to because they"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "will be indoctrinated into the patterns"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "of the Jesuits and their home life will"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "no longer make sense. that that's an"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "example of how powerful those first"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "seven years of life are. It's a"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "programming. So, so the neuropeptides"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "can stay in the body uh as long as as"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "they need to and there are techniques,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "breath work techniques, cart brain"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "coherence. I know my brother Joe"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "Despensza taught he and I have taught"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "together and we use these techniques. uh"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "there are all kinds of of body EFT and"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "you know body memory therapy and that's"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "a whole conversation but there are a lot"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "of ways to to resolve that and it's"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "fascinating to me because when we do"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "resolve them through a breath work"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "session for example"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "those neuropeptides are made of"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "chemicals in the body and elements"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "minerals and you'll actually begin to"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "taste metallic taste in your mouth or"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "your urine your urine will smell funny"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "because It's not the typical urine. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "these are chemicals and or your tears or"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "your perspiration will taste different"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "and it will smell different. You'll"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "you'll sweat and you'll smell different"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "when you're going through this because"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "now those neuropeptides are metabolizing"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "through the body through body secretion."}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "It is the part of us where our healing"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "begins. And what the science is showing"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "is the divinity doesn't live those"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "patterns don't live in our bodies. This"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "is where it gets really really"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "interesting. It was already interesting."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Now it's going to get really really"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "interesting. They don't live in the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "cells of our bodies. The cells of our"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "bodies, the neurons, the DNA, and the"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "cell membranes literally are antenna"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "that tune us to an energetic place in a"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "field that underlies all existence that"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "we now know, science confirmed it in the"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "year 2012 that the discern"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "superconducting super collider, they"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "actually announced it on July 4th in"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "America, 4th of July 2012, that that"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "there is a field that underlies all"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "existence. um 2022 the Nobel Prize in"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "peace uh and no in physics the Nobel"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "Prize in physics was given to the"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "physicist that confirmed that in this"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "field everything's connected"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "entanglement it's an energetic field and"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "and we are we are that field every"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "human the average human is about 50"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "trillion cells in the body approximately"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "give or take you've got more cells than"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "I do because you're taller than I am."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": ">> Oh wow. And every one of those 50"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "trillion cells has about a 100red"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "trillion atoms. And every one of those"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "atoms is doing this. It's emerging from"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "that field and collapsing into that"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "field every nancond of the day. Like"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "right this nancond."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "And as it emerges from the field, it is"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "building our bodies to fit the template"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "that we hold in our consciousness. And"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "this is why healing is possible. This is"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "why spontaneous healing is possible."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "When we change the way we think and the"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "way we feel, we change that blueprint."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "We change the template and and that"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "information will now fill in a new and"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "healthier blueprint. And this is all"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "very well documented. I mean, it's the"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "science knows the bits and pieces."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Science is reluctant to bring them"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "together because it tells a story that"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "many scientists are reluctant to"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "embrace. The story is that we are not"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "what we've been told. We're more than"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "we've been led to believe. When we are"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "in our power,"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "we are less vulnerable to fear. And"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "fear, I think you'll agree, is probably"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "the greatest commodity in a world that"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "is moving toward authoritarian author uh"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "the the ability to create authority and"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "centralize that authority in the world."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "That is our divinity. This is why we are"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "the prize. We are literally the prize."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "And I want to make this conversation"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "relevant to our our viewers because so"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "many people they write to us and we see"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "the comments and say, \"Okay, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "these conversations are cool. What's"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "that have to do with the world?\" That"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "part of us that is so beautiful,"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "powerful, ancient, precious,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "is the reason for everything we're"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "seeing happening in the world. Those"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "powers that be will stop at nothing to"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "distract us and keep us diverted."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "Nations will go to war with nations."}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "Economic systems will be collapsed."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Pandemics will be unleashed. Climate"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "will be engineered. Nations will rise"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "and fall. All in an effort to distract"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "us because we are are the prize."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "The human body is the prize because our"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "humanness is the link to our divinity."}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "This is why I began talking about an"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "ancient battle. There is an ancient"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "battle between good and evil. And evil"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "means different things to different"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "people. But the ultimate evil is to"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "shield a human from their divinity. When"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "we are kept from our divine nature, our"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "ability to love fearlessly, to forgive,"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "to heal, to imagine, to innovate, to"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "create, that is a form of evil. And"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "that's a form that is playing out right"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "now. And this 2030 window of time"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "uh is the window of time when it is"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "proposed that our humanness our biology"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "be replaced with technology with AI with"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "computer chips chemicals in the blood"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "that mimic the systems that we do with"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "synthetics computer chips in the brain"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "linking us to the to the computers now"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "and it's a very different way of"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "thinking now I'm a systems thinker so I"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "look at the big"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "so that I understand where the nancond"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "of my life fits into that big picture"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "and then I let it go. We we don't have"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "to know any of this. But I want people"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "to know that what we're seeing and it's"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "not a crazy world. It's insane. It's not"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "crazy. There is a a method, there's a"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "system, there's a process and it won't"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "last forever. It's this little window of"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "time where you're seeing the powers that"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "be jockey for position and our humanness"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "is a problem. powerful beings. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "nobody's telling our kids that. Our kids"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "are being told that they're flawed forms"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "of life, that they need something"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "outside of themselves to be the best"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "version of themselves and to compete in"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "business and compete in the world. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "our kids are willing to give themselves"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "away to virtual reality, to computer"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "chips."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "I I mean I had some young people in one"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "of my courses uh earlier. It was in the"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "summer and we were talking about"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "Neurolink, the chip that FDA just"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "approved uh from Elon Musk as is his"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "company"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "and it allows a human without any wires"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "at all to communicate directly with the"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "hard drive on their computer. And so"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "here's these young kids in in the room"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "and they're saying this is cool."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:29", "text": ">> They're saying Mr. Braden and I said no,"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "please, Gray. And they said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "Greg.\" I said, \"I'm only 70. I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Mr. Brady.\""}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "They said, \"Are you telling me that all"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "I have to do is put a computer chip in"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "in my brain and I can play Grand Theft"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Auto with no wires, no controls?\" Sweet."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "Because they don't realize this, the"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "biological imperative. There there is a"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "an adage in biology that says, \"Use it"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "or lose it.\" Perfect example. When I was"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "back in the 50s and 60s, I was taught,"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "and you probably were when you were"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "young as well, that we were born with a"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "fixed number of neurons in the human"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "brain. And so this was leverage in"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "college. You know, when you're in"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "college, every beer you drink, you're"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "going to lose some neurons. So, you"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "better not drink too many beers. You"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "know, this is what they're saying. But"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "now, we know up until the last breath,"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "the uh the the hippocampus in the human"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "brain is creating new neurons. But"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "there's a catch. Every time those"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "neurons are created, they must be"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "engaged in a meaningful way within about"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "seven days or they will atrophy and die."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "So that is true for all the systems in"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "the body. We are a biological system"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "that works on demand. If we don't use"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "our systems, then they begin to atrophy."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "So you begin to replace the human brain"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "with computer chips. Or here's here's a"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "study, an actual study that was done."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "Young kids three, four, five years old"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "get up in the morning, they eat their"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "bowl of Cheerios or whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Their parents sit them on the floor with"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "an AI visor and they leave them there"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "for a few hours. And here's what's"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "happening in that AI world. They're"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "seeing stuff they would never see in"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "their backyard. They're hearing sounds."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "They're seeing images, colors, and what"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "is happen this has gone long enough now"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "that psychologists are able to do the"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "studies. Those young people are their"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "physical stature is demented. Their"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "brain size is stunted. Their cognitive"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "development is stunted. Their visual"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "cortex is enlarged because look at what"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "they're doing. They are simply watching"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "rather than engaging in creating. Right"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "now, policies are being written, laws"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "are being enacted"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "to implement many of these technologies"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "in our bodies. is and that the term"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "there's a general term for this Lewis"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "it's called transhumanism"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "trans simply means beyond"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "and human is is our biology so it's"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "beyond our biology"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "and I did an interview recently and"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "someone asked they said well isn't this"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "a part of our natural evolution it's not"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "not a part of our natural biological"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "evolution it is a form of a"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "technological evolution that's not good"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "for us it's not good for us humans is"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "because we lose the very essence of what"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "it is that we cherish in our human in"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "our humanity. We lose our ability to"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "love, forgive, sympathy, empathy,"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "compassion. We lose the ability to"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "discern"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "rather than judge. We're taught to"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "judge. There's a concerted effort right"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "now in these next few years to diminish"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "the power of our humanness. One of the"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "ways that's being accomplished is by us"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "either being encouraged or mandated."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "Some of the the policies will be"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "mandates coming from the UN through our"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "United States Congress. They're they're"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "going the legal route to accept"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "technology into our bodies to replace"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "our humanness. When we do that, we"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "relinquish"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "that precious, ancient, and sacred gift"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "that we were given when the first of our"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "kind stepped onto this planet 200,000"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "years ago. You know, we've only been"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "here 10,000 generations, two 200,000"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "years, not that long. And we were given"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "these abilities given to no other form"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "of life. And now we're being taught and"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "indoctrinated to believe that we are"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "flawed, powerless victims of a world"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "that we have no control over and that we"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "need something outside of us."}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "So this the flip side of this now the"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "new science and this is exciting is"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "showing us wow that we are literally a"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "highly advanced technologically"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "sophisticated soft technology"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "neurons."}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "One of the the reasons that science is"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "beginning to think of us that maybe some"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "of your augusts have have talked about"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "this is that we've been conditioned to"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "think of our biology as this soft gooey"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "sticky wet stuff you know inside the"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "cells"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "and that is one way of thinking of us"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "but now the scientists are looking at us"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "from a perspective of information"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "technology these are it perspectives and"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "so the discoveries they're not showing"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "up in biology ology books. They're"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "showing up in engineering journals like"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "ILE E, you know, and these these"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "engineering who's reading those? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "my community is not reading. But let me"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "just give you an example. There was uh"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "the journal of advanced computing"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "technology which I don't read and my"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "most of my colleagues don't as well"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "unless we're researching a book or"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "something"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "came out uh with an an article and it"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "showed that human DNA is literally a"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "fractal antenna is the term that they"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "use. So what's that mean? it. We think"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "of antennas being tuned to something"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "very specific like a specific TV station"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "or radio station or you know CB station"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "or whatever. Fractal antenna are"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "receiving multiple signals from a broad"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "spectrum of bandwidth simultaneously."}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "We're we're pulling in information from"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "the world around us all the time across"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "this broad spectrum and that we're"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "transducing it into meaningful signals"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "in in our bodies. That's a very"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "different way of of thinking of the"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "human body. So I'll just run through"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "this really quick. What the science is"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "showing 50 trillion cells in the body,"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "every cell is a miniature a"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "microcircuit. It's a gated circuit is"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "what engineers call. It's got input,"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "output. All the functions within our"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "cells, they function as transistors, as"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "resistors, as capacitors that are"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "massaging that that information. Every"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "cell has a voltage of about 07"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "volts. Say, well, that's not very much,"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "but you do the math. 50 trillion"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "times 07 is over 3 billion, no over 3"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "trillion volts of 3.5 trillion volts of"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "electrical potential. Now, we don't"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "actualize it all the time, but what if"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "you could harness that for your own"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "healing or to optimize uh optimize"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "cognition, optimize whatever it is we're"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "going to do in our lives. But it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "stop there because we're we're receiving"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "photons of information. We're"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "transmitting photons of information. We"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "already said the DNA"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "in our bodies. Our DNA stores"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "And let let me just use the terminology"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "and see if you've heard this before. The"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "DNA in our bodies stores every"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "successful genetic transaction in our"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "species in a way that's transparent. It"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "is immutable and it's secure. And if"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "that sounds familiar, it should because"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "that is the basis for what is the new"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "financial system of the world, the"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "decentralized financial system we call"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "blockchain technology."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "Blockchain technology mimics the way"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "information is stored in the DNA of our"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "body. So once again, I'm saying all this"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "that we build around us is is mirroring"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "what we already do in our bodies. They"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "compared a human brain to a"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "microprocessor, the Sulkq Institute in"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "La Hoya is where this actually I'm doing"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "this from memory. Sulkq Institute in La"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "Hoya. And the way they did it for our"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "our techie engineers out there is they"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "equated the synapse and the the human"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "brain between neurons to the transistors"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "on a chip. And interestingly, the"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "numbers are very similar on a modern"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "microprocessor. It's about the same"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "number of of synapses we have in the"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "brain. Then they did the studies and"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "what they found is the human brain is"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "100fold faster. Here's here's the beauty"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "of of where this goes. All of those"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "computer chips, man, they're fast."}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "They're accurate, hands down."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "But are they scalable?"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "They can only scale"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "as far as the limit of the physics of"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "the stuff they're made of allow. So if"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "it's a silicon chip, the atoms"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "are in predetermined geometric patterns"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "that make silicon and information can"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "only move so so fast across those."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> So fast, yes. Efficient, yes. scalable,"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "not so much. Now, human neurons, every"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "time they push a human neuron to the"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "edge of the limit that has been accepted"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "in the textbooks, we do what humans do."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "The neurons morph and they adapt and"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "open up an entire new vista"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "of processing capability. And we do this"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "again and again and again. What is the"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "upper limit of a human neuron? We don't"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "know. We may be infinite when it comes"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "to scalability. That's soft technology."}]

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I mean there's there's so much"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "evidence just on a genetic level alone."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "So we won't even debate any of that."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Let's talk about what happened. Charles"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Doolittle Walcott. Where did he come in"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "and what was his influence on"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "archaeology and such then?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> He just picked up the same policies and"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "reinforced them and made them the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "official policy of the 20th century. So"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "it carried over again and it's carried"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "over to the present day and"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> they all hold ranks with each other and"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "enforce the party line"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> and it also there is a they there's a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "giggle factor that is kept solidly in"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "place. Again, we were talking off"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "camerara about the fact once you have"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "your academic institutions and your"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "religious and your uh media, religious"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "institutions, media and such that are"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "all essentially conspiring to give us a"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "reflection of humanity that is very"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "small, very limited without thinking"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "big. They don't want us thinking big."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> They don't want us being proud."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> You know, they don't want great"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> Right. And yet you when you start"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "looking at the evidence of what you've"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "come across, I mean I and I had looked"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "into some of this many years ago as well"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "u probably about the same time when you"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "first started doing this research and I"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "remember finding it so interesting these"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "obscure little articles from Ohio and"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "especially in the Midwest um from the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "late 1800s where someone would be"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "digging around in their garden and start"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and stumble across a massive femur of"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "some kind. 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Exactly."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> But in the 19th century, amazing quote"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "that I used in the beginning of the book"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "from Abraham Lincoln, who was making a"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "speech at Niagara Falls in 1848, and he"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "said, \"The eyes of that extinct species"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "of giant whose bones filled the mounds"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "of America gazed on Niagara as ours do"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "now.\" So, it shows you just how"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "widespread the knowledge of the giants"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "was in the 19th century. 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Pennsylvania and more and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "all the way out to Catalina Island. And"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Catalina Island is in the 1920s. This"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "happened. International News front page"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Sunday supplement feature articles."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "3,781"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "skeletons dug up by the Catalina Museum."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Dr. Ralph Glidden headed the digs. 7 to"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "9 ft tall, 9 foot2 king, and a"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "megalithic era stoneed edge temple."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Yes. And within 10 years, not only was"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "was all all of those exhibits shut down,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "but all references to to this stuff was"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "scrubbed."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> This is I mean, I just find I just find"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "it such an amazing conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> And then they call the crackpot. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Crackpot."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> He [laughter] was the curator of the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "museum and and he headed the Hay"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Foundation, which was officially part of"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "the Smithsonian."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Yes. And in the book, I I show that the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Smithsonian has 536 negatives from those"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "digs. And we're trying right now to get"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "the Smithsonian to come forward and show"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "show what those images are. And it'll be"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "very interesting."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> Absolutely. Uh what piqued my curiosity"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "about 15 years ago is I'd stumbled"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "across the story uh about the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the cache of Egyptian uh artifacts that"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "were in the Grand Canyon. And I remember"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "going to a lecture of a man who he he"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "was an archaeologist, but he also did"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "his own digs. Not only was he showing"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "the location of that particular cave in"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "which those those"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> So the little Colorado and the Colorado"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "River,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> it's on the side of a a very steep drop"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "off. This is not an easy place to get"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "into. So it makes you wonder first a how"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "did that stuff get in there? You have to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "start looking at other means of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "transportation to fly that kind of cash"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "of a sizable amount of Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "artifacts in there. And the Smithsonian"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "then the article made it to the Phoenix"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Sun back in what 1910."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Huge article."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Huge article. The Smithsonian comes in."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "It's all covered up."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> We don't know who these people are."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> We don't know who they are. They"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "spirited everything away. And so this"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "man had been in the cave. He had seen"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "it. And he said it's very very difficult"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "to access. Well, and the legends in the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "area say that the entrance of the S"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "papapu, which was where the Indians went"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "to survive the apocalypse, with the ant"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "people,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> ant people,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> the ant people. And everyone thinks"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "they're talking about ants. I think"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "they're talking about the survivors of"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Atlantis. An ent."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> And in the book also, you have the sons"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of Anch, which is in the book of"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Numbers, where they say, \"We came into"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "this strange land inhabited by giants"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "before whom we stood like grasshoppers.\""}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "And you just find the myths over and"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "over again reinforcing the same themes"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "with the same root words, you know, with"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the same pronunciations. By extension,"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "in Death Valley, they they found a"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "similar underground temple uh in 50"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "connecting caves, 8 to 9 foot giants"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "dressed in what they called sheepkin"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "looking zoot suits."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> We're going to get to that. I just find"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "this so fascinating. Yeah. And the same"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "man that was talking about um the cave"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "in the Grand Canyon that had had the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "that had stored at one time the Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "artifacts before the Smithsonian came in"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "and spirited everything away. He had"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "also come across these these clay tubes"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "that were burial tubes. And this man,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "you and I were talking camera, I cannot"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "remember his name. He he he I was"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "fasinated. He agreed to do an interview"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "with me and then he said he's had so"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "much harassment. Now those were standing"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "burials, correct? They were standing"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "burials and these were these beings were"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "anywhere between 9 and 15 feet tall."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "They had their clothing on and I saw the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "images of them. [clears throat] They had"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "hair, very red hair, bright orang-ish"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "red hair. Uh and you, as you're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "tell us in a little bit, a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "a lot of these uh skeletons have blonde"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "waistlength black hair, red hair that's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "still intact."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> Catalina was blonde, red hair all over"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the country, including Florida. um black"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "hair often and again I'm not saying that"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "all the population of the Americas was"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Caucasian or giants but the main central"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "burials in the majority of the major"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "mounds across American and and again you"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "have to understand hundreds of thousands"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "of mounds in the Americas. The"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Smithsonian themselves estimated over"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "150,000 mounds in the east coast alone."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "People don't think there's any mans out"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "west. Well, out west is covered with"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "mans."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> Uh there was Lake Hampton which was at"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "5,000 ft in the California, Nevada,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Arizona border. It was big as the Great"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Lakes. That's where Spirit Cave, Love"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Lock Cave has been found. It's in"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "association with uh the temple complexes"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "in Death Valley and and the Grand Canyon"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "and the finds all the way through"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "California."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Okay. Now, in ancient lore and certainly"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "about Atlantean times, it's often"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "discussed that the people were very"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "large in stature. And so, if there were"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "these confluences historically of events"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "that were occurring, if you were having"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "events that required having to leave a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "given area and migrate to other places,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "certainly, it's not it it's not beyond"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "reason that we could expect to see these"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "same people, these same types of beings"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "arriving in the Americas. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "why we think because we've been given"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "such a virginal history"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Christian history, you know, everything"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "came out of the Middle East, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and but magically these cultures"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Egyptian and Samrian that appeared in"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "the Middle East appeared at their"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "highest form of culture and then"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "degenerated."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> And when you ask them, well, how is this"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "possible? They say, well, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "history, you know, things like that"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "happen. Well, no, they don't."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> No, they don't. They don't. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "devil. So, we're clearly civilization"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "brought in at a high level from"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "somewhere else,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> right? Okay. Now, just to get a"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "perspective here, we're going to go to"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Robert Wadllo. And I think many people"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "have probably seen some of his photos if"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "they've ever looked into the subject of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "giants, but we have a little modern man."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Largest modern man. So, let's take a"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "look at a little video we have of him"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "and then we'll discuss this a little"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "further."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> Making ends feet is certainly a big job"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "when it takes size 39 shoes to fit them."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Two into one dook goer. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "owner, Robert Wadler of Chicago, who at"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the ripe old age of 17 stands 8' 4 in in"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "his socks and incidentally seems to be"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "quite beyond the reach of young women."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Every time young Robert goes through a"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "doorway, he scores a duck. And this is"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Robert's father, a mere dwarf of 6 feet."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> And we have a few other family photos of"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "him while we talk about him."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> He was 8'4 in that he made it to 811,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "but he only lived to be 22. He suffered"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "from a pituitary condition. He had a"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "tumor in his pituitary gland."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> Now, the giants that we found in in in"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the mounds are clearly not suffering"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "from gigantism as they call it."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> Right. And this man, just as a matter of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "scale, as we can see here, he's 8'4."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "We're talking about giants, the rulers"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "in particular, who ranged between 9 and"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "12 feet tall, just as a matter of scale."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "And I want to bring up something. Do you"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "know who Klaus Donna is by any chance"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "for everyone? Okay. So, he's a friend of"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "mine and I've gotten to know him through"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "our work."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> Amazing stuff. And in one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "interviews I did with him, uh I was at"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "his apartment in in in Austria. I"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "believe we were in Austria and u he had"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "he handed me the occipital bone of a"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "person and this had gone through"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "university examination and so forth that"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "they determined to be between 23 and 25"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "ft tall"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> now again"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> there's a whole other findings"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> 9 ft tall max in what we just saw there"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "so you have to look at what's going on"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "and I want to bring up something we"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "talked about briefly off camera too the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "pituitary so he had a pituitary tumor"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "that created this gigantism Right. But"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "we know when you go into the ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "studies, the the classic ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "studies, the pituitary is responsible"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> it's a central spiritual spiritual"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "considered the most important gland all"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "in general by the ancients. So"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> exactly. And so what was going on there?"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Is it possible that this devolution, the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "tiny stature we have now, is really more"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "a process of having a negatively"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "impacted pituitary?"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> I agree. Yeah. My personal opinion, you"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "know, is that when you take out diet and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "nutrition, you know, which is why they"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "always say, \"Oh, we're getting bigger"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "and stuff.\" I mean, when you go back"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "into a really ancient culture with high"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "spiritual practices with the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "[clears throat] it's even conceivable"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "stimulation of the pituitary."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> Could have resulted in in some of this"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "growth."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. I It's just something"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "it's just something worth thinking about"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "because our assumptions are so backward"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "in what the human species is to begin"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "with. and so restricted. Okay. So, one"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "of the things that we were talking about"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "is the leaders in these mounds were"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "usually between seven and 9 ft tall. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "he would have been a normal Robert would"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "have been a rather averagel looking"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "sized fellow from that time. But also"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "there was a finness of features of"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "strength, real broadness, their broad"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "shoulders. These were fully, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "gigantism. These were fully intact, very"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "powerful,"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> articulated by all mean. It looks like"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "beautiful looking people. The picture of"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the queen, the 8ft queen."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> Oh yes."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> Be decked in her copper finery."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": ">> I mean that's a fine physical specimen."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> So here you have these people between"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "here she is. So this is the queen who"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "was how tall was she? Eight."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> She was 8 foot. Her her king consort who"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "was buried on top of her was 9 foot2."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> And let's talk about now all these"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "little dots you see are very intricately"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "stranded pearls."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> Correct. freshwater pearls, especially"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "in Ohio. The finds of"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> the giant mound burials in Ohio, in some"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "cases, over a half million freshwater"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "pearls. Often the mouths are stuffed"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "with the pearls."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> And this is in association with the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "copper and mica jewelry, the crowns. And"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "again, people say, \"Well, why do you say"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "they ruled?\" Well, I you know, because"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "they're buried in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "mound and they're wearing a copper"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "crown. You know, it's a tip off. And"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "also again the copper crown, the crown"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "and any other jewels that are associated"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "with crowns have to directly to do with"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "the pituitary gland. They always did"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "historically."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": ">> So yeah. And so this woman was buried"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "with the king. And let's talk about the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "position they were buried in."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> Well, the thing about the mound builder"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "burials is they're a wide range of of"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "burial types. In this case, they were"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "buried in unison with each other in what"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "might be called a cosmic embrace."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Sometimes you have couples with their"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "knees intertwined, sitting facing each"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "other. In two cases, uh holding Stella"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "with hieroglyphs and and then you get a"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "number of standing burials"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "uh sometimes surrounded by standing"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "stones. Uh then uh there's something"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "called sun circle burials where there'll"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "be a group of 8 10 12"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "uh individuals all facing in and then"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "the king usually in a standing position"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "in the middle. So uh just an incredible"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "variety and and again when people talk"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "about hoaxes and stuff what I always say"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "and I try to include in the book was the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "associated uh burial positions and the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "associated grave goods. Now, you might"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "be able to fake a giant bone here or"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "there, but we're talking about detailed"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "grave goods, high degrees of pottery."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> Let's talk about that. I mean, some of"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "some of the art that has been found is"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "absolut It's exquisite. We don't do any"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "finer artwork today."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> I mean, almost as though it's been"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "machined."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": ">> Because of the evenness and smoothness"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "of texture, the finness of the features."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "And again in association with these"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "giants just explain some of the pieces"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "that you've come across. This look at"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "this beautiful."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> Yeah, I mean that's considered one of"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "the finest pieces of pottery discovered"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "in the Americas. And you can just see"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the uh almost machine quality to it. And"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "uh in association with the Catalina"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "finds, they there was a 65lb"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "ern which they found in the burial site"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "and everyone commented that it that it"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "seemed to have been machined. It was of"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "such high quality. And this doesn't just"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "apply to pottery. It goes right across"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "the board uh into uh accounts of dams,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "irrigation systems. Uh the pipes alone"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "that that come out of the the mounds of"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "majority of the ones in the book are"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "from West Virginia were in 1883. I found"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "the Smithsonian's own field report which"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "said they found three giants. This is"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "very famous. Came out of Iowa. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "controversy at the time as to whether it"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "was an elephant or a mammoth. The people"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "that were trying to be conservative were"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "saying it was an elephant. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "there's no history of elephants in the"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Americas either. So, but people that"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "know anatomy seem to think it's a"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "mammoth. In which case, this degree of"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "accuracy would have had to have been"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "observed 10 or 20,000 years ago. And"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "this degree of artistry,"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": ">> yeah, the artistry of of the pipes and"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "and carvings was one of the things that"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "really just blew me away because these"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "things are being found in association"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "with the giant barrels and associate"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "barrels that aren't giants, but the"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "degree of sophistication artistry across"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the board much higher than what was"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "associated with the later American"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Indians. And if you ask the American"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Indians again, they say, you know, this"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "is from a prior culture."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": ">> Let's talk about some of the other"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "finery because they had a sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "jewelry as well. Copper seemed to be the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "medium that was used the most and as you"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "say the freshwater pearls wherever they"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "found them"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": ">> and Micah"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> and Micah and Micah and so there was a"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "lot of beautiful jewelry that was"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "associated but also one thing I found"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "intriguing going to the Louv and the um"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "and also the British Museum and"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Egyptology is the games the kind the"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "sophisticated board games and such that"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "existed and children's games that"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "existed. So those same were found in"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "these American mounds. What are some of"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "the other things that were found by way"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "of fabric for example? Because you you"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "talked about these zoot suits."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": ">> Well, uh there's two incredible things"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "out west. One is the finds in the Death"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Valley caves where they go into detail"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "about these sheepkin looking zoots suits"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "that were, you know, apparently tailored"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "pants and coats and buttons. And in that"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "case, there was a series of connected"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "temple rooms that all led to what they"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "characterized as almost looking like a"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "museum where they had niches with the"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "bones of saber-tooth tigers, giant"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "sloths, mammoths, and dinosaurs."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> Saber-tooth tigers,"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> right? And dinosaurs. Now, people say,"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "\"Okay, this is ridiculous, but let me"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "just make this one point. The ecstones"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "in South America also show giants. And"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "there's cave petetroglyphs in Nevada"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "that showed dinosaurs. Now, I know this"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "seems crazy, but in the last 10 years,"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "scientists in Germany and at North"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "Carolina State both began independently"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "cutting open giant bones, which has"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "never been done before because they were"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "considered too valuable."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "And they found soft tissue within these"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "dinosaur bones that's been dated to 20"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "to 36,000 BC."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "And these paper there was a huge"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "scientific conference in Singapore where"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "they presented these findings. The the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "the woman at North Carolina State has"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "been under attack for the last 10 years"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "over all this."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> But I'm just putting it out there."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": ">> Yes. The other amazing thing about"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "fabrics was found in spirit cave out in"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Nevada which is associated with Lake"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Laanton again and they were excavating"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "bat guano out of there and under several"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "feet they started to discover what"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "looked like human remains and they had"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "to contact the University of Nevada and"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "archaeologists came out took a look at"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "it. What they found was three skeletons"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "mummified and wrapped in very fine tulle"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "fiber fabric like Egyptian thread count."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "It was that advanced. They asked, this"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "was in the 1940s. They looked at the"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "stuff. They said, \"Well, it appears to"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "be 500,000 years old.\" And immediately"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "filed it away. In the late '9s,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> just a casual comment, 500,000 years"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "old."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> No, no, 500."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> Oh, 500 to a,000,000 years. of"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": ">> so a scientist at the University of"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "California read about this in the '9s"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "and he went to Nevada and found the"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "things in storage pulled them out of"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "storage and carbon dated them to 7,500"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "BC mummification and advanced weaving."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "There's a shot of of the shroud in the"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "book."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:54", "text": ">> Yes. Now, one would think the news of a"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "7,500y old mum mummified anything"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "anywhere in the world would have been a"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "sensation. No one knows about it."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> No. Okay. So, fabric. So, the so the fab"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "so sophisticated fabric weaving we know"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "at least that far back."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> 7,500"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> 7,500 years at least."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> And associated with the copper finds,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "you know, I said to myself, where's all"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "the copper coming from? Well, it turns"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "out in northern Michigan, Kina"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "Peninsula, and then by extension into"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "the lake, there's something called"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Isisle Royale, which I find is a very"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "interesting name for it. Number one, the"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Royal Island. And that island is"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "literally made out of copper. And"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "because of a volcanic upthrust, the"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "copper was exposed to the air. All the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "sulfur impurities burned off. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "over 99% pure. two professors in"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "Michigan uh wrote a book and estimated"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "that 1.5 billion pounds of copper were"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "taken out of there over a period of"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "10,000 years."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": ">> Well, what besides the jewelry and such,"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "what else what other remnants have you"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "found in terms of what the copper was"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "used for?"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> Well, they can't account for it. They"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "they say, \"Well, in the in the mounds,"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "that's a lot of jewelry.\" We we"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "[laughter] you know we see a lot of"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "jewelry and a lot of independent"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "researchers up in that area have"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "reported petetroglyphs of cretton"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "looking ships Egyptian looking vessels"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "all the way to the Viking. Now it's very"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "interesting the copper trade fell off in"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "1500 BC and started back up at 900 AD."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "In 1500 BC um the Sanorini volcanic"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "explosion in Creed happened which among"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "other things I think accounts for the"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Exodus story and completely destroyed"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "that seagoing culture. So, it would make"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "sense that the copper trade dropped off"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "and then it started up at 900 AD, which"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "is exactly the time they say the Vikings"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "showed up."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": ">> You were talking about pipes earlier."}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "Were the pipes made of copper?"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": ">> Mostly soap stone and other some some"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "very hard other, you know, stones."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> Was it were you impressed more with the"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "precision with which these were made?"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": ">> And how it was worked? You know, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "the same story. you you get this, you"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "know, high degree of granite and stuff"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "like that that seems to have been easily"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "manipulated and worked on and science,"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "you know, says they had crude"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "instruments. They didn't know this, they"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "didn't know that. And they do it in with"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "the great pyramid and great stones of"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "Balbeck and come up with these"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "ridiculous stories in order to to make"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "people from the extreme past look like"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "children, like ignorant children."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": ">> People like you and Klaus, Donna, and"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "Christopher Dun. though I have such"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "respect for. He's done amazing research"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "in terms of showing that it was"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "virtually impossible for some of those"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "mega statues. Yeah. Laser light"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "precision. Obviously these a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "statuary in Egypt was machine toolled"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": ">> back in day. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> I mean he he's done photos where he's"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "taken like the face of Ramsies and shown"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": ">> you know you can put the right cheek"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "against the left"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": ">> flawless. Yeah. He says the only way you"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "can do that is with a computer program."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": ">> So we're looking at we're looking at a"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "society and we've we've started slowly"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "coming to embrace yes there were in the"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "Middle East maybe some more advanced"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "civilizations but we haven't gotten to"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "the point because your work is really"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "relatively new and phenomenal um that"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "the same thing was going on all over the"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "planet."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": ">> Right. Well, I joke at one point, you"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "know, especially in light of the finds"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "out west, which we know were 7,500 BC."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "And by the way, also the Florida bog"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "mummies. Now, the Florida bog mummy"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "stories is is is another just"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "mindblower. They were putting in a"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "condominium complex near Disney World in"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Titusville, which is on the Atlantic"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "coast, and the developers drained a lake"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "there, and [clears throat] they"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "discovered under the Pete Moss skeleton."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "So, they contacted the University of"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "Florida and Florida State. They came"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "out, started digging in there, and what"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "they discovered was several hundred"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "red-haired, mummified skeletons. The"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "hair was still knot, and they'd been"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "ritually buried with stakes. Couldn't"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "get any funding for it at all."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> Can you believe that?"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": ">> They had to re raise independent funds"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "and the developers on their own dime put"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "up $60,000 worth of machines so they"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "could drain this stuff out. This 10, 15"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "years. Finally, the University of"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "Florida in the last couple years has"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "stepped forward by a grant from a"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "private individual who allowed them to"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "do it. The same thing happened in the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "west coast of Florida. They they they"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "had health spas over in the west coast"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "and in the 50s they were very popular"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "and people would come down and vacation"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "and one of the guys was an ex Navy diver"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "and he started scuba diving and coming"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "up with skeletons and then the tourists"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "started coming up with skeletons and he"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "tried to get the government involved."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "No, no success at all. In in the case of"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "the West Coast, they're actually"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "cenotes. They thought they were only 40"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "feet deep and and they're shaped like an"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "hourglass and they come back out and at"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "the bottom is Pete moss and underneath"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "the Pete Moss hundreds of red-haired"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "skeletons. 75 dated 7500"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> redhaired skeletons are all over the"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "country."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": ">> Yep. So, I joked at one point, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "because they always say, \"Well, when"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "when did the Europeans discover"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "America?\" And I said, \"Well, maybe"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "you've got it like completely [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "backwards, you know.\" I said, 'If you go"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "back to 7,500 BC, especially out west,"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "that was considered the most lush"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "biodiversity"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "existing on the planet. So perhaps we"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "discovered them."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> And they didn't discover us at all."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": ">> There are so many question marks that"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "come up when you start looking at all of"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "this. I I really don't even know where"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "to go with it. It's just kind of it's"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "just data at this point. It's just data."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "trying to string it all together seems"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "almost impossible unless you just stick"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "to a particular local and see that there"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "was a particular very advanced or"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "sophisticated culture of the day. So"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "let's talk about the mounds themselves a"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "little bit and let's talk about the ways"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "in which the the internal structure of"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "the mounds were built and purpose and"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "ceremony and and that sort of thing."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": ">> Well, there were several different types"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "of mounds."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> Yeah, we have one"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": ">> that's a monk's mound which is in Cokeia"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "which is in St. Louis at the con"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "confluence of three major rivers and"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "huge significance to the site. They"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "originally estimate that the city of"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Cahokia was 50 to 60,000 people. In the"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "last 2 years, the city of St. Louis has"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "been doing extensive work on their"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "sewers and roads and they've discovered"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "that they're finding Cahokian remains"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "all over underneath St. Louis. They've"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "upped the estimate to 100 to 150,000"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "people. Now we have"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:24", "text": ">> When were the Cahokian? What what is the"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:26", "text": ">> again fell in 1200 to500 AD as as m"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "builder culture in general across the"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "country. I people ask me well what"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "happened? I personally think disease. I"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "also think that the Mongol invasion went"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "not only east but west and came into the"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "Americas and probably brought the black"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "plague with it. And so at Cahokia the"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "site has never been properly studied."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "The man that was officially assigned to"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "do some tenative digs was also"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "associated in covering up some the"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "extraordinary finds in Ser Pennsylvania"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "including the horned."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": ">> Yes, I was going to get to that next"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": ">> which they squashed. It's the same guy"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "there. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": ">> Now, okay. How like I said, I don't even"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "know what to do with all of this. I"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "can't remember the guy's name, but the"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "archaeologist that was involved in this"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "finding"}]

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And so when we"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "talked about your early past, you were"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "you were of a mind that you wanted to"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "find the evidence. If you were reading"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "these ancient Vadic texts that were"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "talking about this extreme antiquity,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "your hypothesis is there has to be"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "evidence for it. And so you set out to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "find it and you did. And so in this um"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "conversation, I'd really like to talk"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "about the time in which some of these"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "discoveries were made. This whole period"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "of the early 20th century, I mean it was"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "an explosion of experimentation and"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "discovery of all kinds that seemed to"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "shut down by mid 20th century. Late"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "19th, early 20th, early 20th century,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "all kinds of things were being"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "discovered on a spiritual level and on a"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "material level."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Yeah, you're you're right about that. A"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "lot of the archaeological evidence for"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "extreme human antiquity was being"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "publicly reported by scientists in the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "late 19th century and early 20th"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "century."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "And also you when we look at alternative"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "explanations for human origins that"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "involve some kind of spiritual element,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "we see that a lot of prominent"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "scientists were conducting research into"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "the paranormal and things like that. And"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "I think there were a couple of reasons"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "why that kind of research stopped being"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "publicly reported by prominent"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "scientists."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "And one reason is that"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "in terms of the archaeological evidence"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "for extreme human antiquity before that"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "time they really didn't have their"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "timeline totally fixed."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "uh as a result of some discoveries that"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "were made in the late 19th century, they"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "fixed their timeline"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "so that they would have humans like us"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "appearing less than a couple hundred"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "thousand right"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> years ago. And then because they had"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "fixed their timeline in that way, then"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "they dismissed all these earlier"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "discoveries that had shown human beings"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "were existing for far longer periods of"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "time going back"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> many millions of years even. you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "because they were saying, well, if"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "humans like us appeared less than"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "200,000 years ago, then these other"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "discoveries couldn't possibly"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "be true. So, let's forget about them"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> and they were forgotten."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "And in terms of the alternative"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "explanations of human origins that"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "involve what we might call paranormal"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "elements,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "there were scientists who were"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "investigating these things, but they"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "also stopped publicly reporting these"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "things in the early 20th century. And I"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "think"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "there are some reasons for this."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "And one reason was that governments and"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "corporations started putting huge"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "amounts of money into science around the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "time of World War I."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "And they wanted results from their"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "investment in science. They wanted very"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "specific things. They wanted weapons."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "They wanted pharmaceuticals."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "They wanted consumer products."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "And scientists decided, well,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "if we want all this money, billions of"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "dollars that corporations and"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "governments are prepared to give us,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "we should kind of limit our scientific"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "activity to things that further those"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> economic really"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> particular goals. And therefore they"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "decided well all this paranormal"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "research and things of that that that"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "isn't really contributing to that. So"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "let's focus on the strictly material"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "things. And in a sense that was"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "productive because they did get a a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of influence"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "because of the huge investments that"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "government and corporations made in"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "science that would give weapons, that"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "would give pharmaceuticals,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "that would give consumer products. But"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "there was a cost to that. And I think"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "we're still suffering the effects of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "that bargain that was made at that time"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "because what we wind up with is an"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "incomplete picture of reality that"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "leaves out,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> you know, the spiritual element. And I"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "think physical, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Because of that, I think we've got"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "an environmental crisis. We've got a"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "financial crisis and we've got a crisis,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "a political crisis in the world. You"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "know, intensifying levels of conflict"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "that just don't seem to go away no"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "matter how hard we try."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> And then when you it is not only that it"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "seems like it was convenient to be able"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "to develop these industries and such,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "but something more aggressive happened."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "It seems that anything that wasn't able"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to be borne out in a materialistic realm"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "of science actually was subject to"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "ridicule from that point forward as"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "well. I mean it wasn't just that we need"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "to focus on this for a while. there was"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "this almost a direct attempt to kill the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "other types of research and science"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "where it it just sort of disappeared"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "um for decades as a matter of fact till"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "some of the scientists of the more"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "modern era from the 70s forward started"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "really researching into it again at"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "universities even."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> Yeah. And not only did they"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "ridicule people at the time, but they"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "rewrote the whole history of science."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> You know, for example, you know, if you"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "look in any physics textbook today,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "you'll see descriptions of the work of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Pierre and Marie Cury, who were husband"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "and wife. You know, they both got Nobel"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "prizes for their work in discovering"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "radium and doing a lot of the early"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "research in radioactivity."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "And you'll read about that in the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "textbooks, but what you won't read about"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "is the years of research they did with"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "psychics, people with paranormal powers."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> I mean, that's real science where you're"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "willing to look into all realms. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "not just exclusive to one or the other."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "And they did this for quite a long time,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "didn't they?"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Yes. They did two years of research with"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "a medium, an Italian lady named Usapia"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Paladino. And this woman had some"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "psychoinetic abilities, mind over matter"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "abilities that they wanted to test. And"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "they thought these ideas were relevant"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "to physics."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "and they were part of a group of 20"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "prominent European scientists who were"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "conducting these experiments with this"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "medium in Paris early in the 20th"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "century"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and they got tremendous results. On one"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "occasion, they were sitting with a"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "medium in the laboratory of the"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "psychology institute in Paris in broad"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "daylight."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> And the medium was sitting in a chair."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Maria Cury was holding her hands. Other"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "scientists were holding her feet, making"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "sure she wasn't moving at all. And in"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the middle of the lab under what he"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "described as perfect conditions of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "observation, Pierre Cury said large"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "table like this one was floating about"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "three feet off the ground. And he was"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "measuring how high it was floating,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "timing how long it was floating. And"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "after two years of such results, you"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "know, the entire group of scientists"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "signed documents saying these things are"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "absolutely true. Pierre Cury wrote to"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "some of his prominent physicist friends"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "and said, \"We have to take these things"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "into account if we're going to have a"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "complete picture of reality."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "But this sort of thing is absent from"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the current textbooks of physics. You"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "only find you only find the work they"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "did with with radium,"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> And therefore people today get an"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "incomplete picture of what real science"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "actually is. You know, when they hear"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "something like mediums, psychoinetic"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "abilities, they would say"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "this is outside the bounds of real"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "science."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> But they were using scientific"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "techniques. They were"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> and protocols to prove these things out"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "now 100 years ago."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Yes, they were. And"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "I think that is real science. A science"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "that takes into account"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> everything that's possibly true about"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the world that we live in. And you know"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "uh few years ago I was giving a lecture"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "at a university in Europe in the country"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "of Hungary. It was their main science"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "university."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "And I was speaking to a group of"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "physicists and graduate students of"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "physics."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "And I was going through what I call the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "hidden history of physics. The accounts"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "of great physicists like the curies who"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "had just you know who had done research"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "in these fields that are now considered"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "outside the bounds of real physics or"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "science."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "And I was wondering you know what they"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "were going to say. So afterwards, one of"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the physicists came up to me and said,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "you know, I'm glad that you gave this"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "talk. You know, by day I'm doing plasma"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "physics, the physics of superheated"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "gases, but he told me privately at night"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "I'm doing some experiments and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "telepathy. He told me, \"I have a son"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "and young, he's young, and I put him in"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "another room and then I flip a coin and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "he's got to tell me whether it's heads.\""}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> We used to do that with my son, tails"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> or tails. And he said, \"My son is"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "getting 80% correct,\" which is really"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "unexpected."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": ">> And he said, \"I wouldn't tell this to"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "any of my colleagues because they think"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "I've gone off the reservation.\" Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> But he felt safe in speaking to to me"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "about it. So this is something"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "I often encounter"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> that sometimes there are scientists who"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "by day,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "you know, appear completely orthodox,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "but privately they have other opinions."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> Well, it makes sense. If they have an"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "inquiring mind, why wouldn't they want"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "to know a larger picture? Really? Sure."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "I mean, this dates back to Sir Isaac"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Newton. I mean, most people think of him"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "as sort of the godfather of the"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "materialist view of science. However,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "that wasn't his sole interest at all,"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "was it?"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> No. He actually spent quite a a bit of"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "time researching things like alchemy and"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "other paranormal topics and he wrote"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "extensively"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "about them. This is rarely mentioned in"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "physics textbooks. There are some"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "historians of science who have looked"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "into this. But in terms of"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "scientific"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "discussion today, they ignore these"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "aspects of his work."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> For how long?"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> Which I think is unfortunate."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": ">> It is. How long have they been filtering"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "that part of his um works out?"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> I would say the past. Well, of course,"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "he he was living during the 18th"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "century. So it's something that started"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "in earnest I believe in the 19th century"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "and early 20th century."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": ">> Again we keep going back to the same"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "period. Massive amounts of discoveries"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "just prior to that and then a a seeming"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "quashing of the evidence after that"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "following that which is interesting and"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "I know we did talk about that in the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "last show. What I would like to do also"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "there were a couple others. If you could"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "get to Sir Oliver Lodge."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> Sir Oliver Lodge was a prominent British"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "physicist who lived in the early 20th"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "century."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "And he had a son named Raymond. And his"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "son Raymond died during World War I. You"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "know, he was in the British military. He"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "was killed in Europe."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "after that lodge"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "tried to establish"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "contact with the spirit of his son and"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "he made use of a medium"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "and he went in disguise"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "and he didn't let the medium know who he"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "was."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "And through the interactions with this"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "medium, he got communications"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "from a conscious entity"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "that revealed things that would only"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "have been known to his son. Very"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "intimate details about the family"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "history and his personal dealings with"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "his son."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "So what I find interesting"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "is that Lodge published a book about"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "this whole case and in it he dealt with"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "a lot of the types of skeptical"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "objections that might be made by some of"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "his scientific"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "colleagues. So I think it's a really"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "good example of a prominent physicist"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "who came to accept that consciousness"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "can survive the death of the physical"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "body. And this is something I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "absolutely convinced of that"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:13", "text": ">> this body is a vehicle for a conscious"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "self that has a non-material"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "source. Now this idea is not very"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "popular in the world of science today."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "The most common idea today in the world"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "of science is that consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "produced by the interaction of chemicals"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "within the brain."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> You know most cognitive or"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "neuroscientists would say if you"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "organize the molecules in the brain in a"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "sufficiently complex way they'll"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "generate consciousness. But only"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "temporarily and only in association with"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> with the firings of the brain. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> With the firings of"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> of the brain. Which means ultimately"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> uh there is no conscious self that could"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "survive the demise of the physical body."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "And this is interesting because it"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "brings us into the subject of of this"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "dual nature of ourselves which you're"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "saying in your work is absolutely"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "essential to being able to piece"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "together utilizing the non-physical"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "aspect of our intelligence is essential"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "and piecing together our ancient"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "history. You can't do it just looking"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "for bones alone. That's not sufficient."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:34", "text": ">> Absolutely. Now, what the stones and"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "bones show us, if we actually look at"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "all of the evidence,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> is that humans have been here since the"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "very beginning of life on Earth. You"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "know, when people read my book,"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Forbidden Archaeology, they noticed"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> Yes. And now what that means is we need"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "new explanations for human origins. So"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "people would ask me that question. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "what is your explanation of how we came"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": ">> about? And to answer that question, I"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "wrote a book called Human Devolution."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "And what I proposed there was before we"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "even ask the question where did human"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "beings come from we should first of all"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "ask the question what is a human being"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "now as I was just saying today most"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "scientists would say we're just machines"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "made of matter and as far as mind and"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "consciousness are concerned well if you"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "organize matter in a very complex way in"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "the brain. The brain will produce mind"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "and consciousness."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "So it's a very materialistic conception"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "of who we are."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:02", "text": ">> But what I'm proposing is that we're"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "made of three things."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Matter, the ordinary chemical elements."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "That's part of what we are. But beyond"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "that there is a subtle mind element with"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "some very unusual powers like remote"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "viewing"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> which everyone is capable of"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> psycho. Yes. And we could talk about"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> Yes. Well yes"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:34", "text": ">> and and beyond that subtle mind element"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "there is a conscious self which is"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "totally non-material."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "Now when I'm speaking about mind and"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "consciousness, I don't mean temporary"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "byproducts of brain chemistry. I mean"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "real things with their own independent"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "yes"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": ">> existence,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": ">> subtle bodies,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": ">> So if we're going to explain"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "where we came from, we have to explain"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "well where does that consciousness come"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "from? Where does the matter come from?"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "How do they all come together in the"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "human form as we experience it on this"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "earth? So, what I'm proposing is that"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "originally we're beings of pure"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "consciousness. That's what we are. We"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "originally exist in harmony with all"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "other beings of pure consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "the source of all conscious beings."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "But if a conscious self leaves that"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "original state"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "then it becomes associated"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "with matter. It comes down into lower"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "levels of reality."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "And why is that? Well, it's because that"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "original level of pure consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "based on love, unselfish love. If a"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "conscious self becomes exploitative or"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "selfish, it can no longer exist in that"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "harmony. It needs a field of activities"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "where it can act out its desires to"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "control, dominate and exploit matter and"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "others"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": ">> in these denser physical frequencies or"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "realities. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": ">> absolutely."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": ">> And for that purpose, it needs a"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "vehicle. Okay. And there are different"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "kinds of vehicles. There are human"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "vehicles. There are plant vehicles."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "There are animal vehicles."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "According to the state of consciousness,"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "it is placed in a certain vehicle. And"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "where do those vehicles come from? Well,"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "it comes from higher intelligences in"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "the cosmos. And it's worth bringing up"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "at this point, I think the point because"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "it struck me in your book that the"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "co-founder of the theory of evolution"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "with Darwin, I mean the way it was"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "ultimately played out politically,"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "Wallace actually came to believe"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "there is an evolution of sorts, but it's"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "guided by a higher intelligence which"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "has come to be, as we were saying off"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "camera, kind of a fusion between science"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "and religion so that it can live"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "peacefully together at this point in"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "time. Yes, I think Wallace was an"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "excellent example of that. He was able"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "to integrate"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:34", "text": ">> his spirituality and his science and the"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "result is a complete and better a more"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "complete and better"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": ">> science"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> and right now they're still looking"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "they're saying well show me the physical"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "evidence. So along that line we have a"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "few little pieces that we can talk"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "about. I just took a few excerpts from"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "your book just to drive home the point"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "that these bones exist. This isn't this"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "isn't theory. One of them I want I was I"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "found intriguing because it's not far"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "from where I live actually is in the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "California gold rush territory, Table"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "Mountain. That particular discovery if"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "you could talk about that a bit because"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that that's quite old."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:13", "text": ">> That is a really fascinating case. As I"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "say, my work starts with the stones and"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "bones, but from there it goes on to"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "other things. Absolutely. But an"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "important first step there"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": ">> from the scientific point of view is"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "showing there is evidence that"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "contradicts the current theories of"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "human origins."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:35", "text": ">> Now in the mid 19th century, gold was"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "discovered in California. And to get the"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "gold, miners came to places like Table"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Mountain,"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": ">> which is near Sonora in Towal County,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "Towalami County in the Sierra Nevada"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "mountains."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": ">> And they were digging tunnels into the"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "sides of that mountain to get the gold."}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:59", "text": ">> And deep inside the tunnels in the solid"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "rock, the miners found human bones and"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "human artifacts. They found stone"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "mortars and pestals. They found obsidian"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "spear points. They found human bones and"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "teeth."}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "These objects were collected by Dr. J."}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "D. Whitney who was the chief government"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "geologist of California. Mount Whitney"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "is named after him. He was a very"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "prominent scientist"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:33", "text": ">> and he reported these discoveries to the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "scientific world. Now, what makes them"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "really significant is they're found in"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "layers of solid rock that modern"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "geologists tell us are about 50 million"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "years old, which is really quite"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "extraordinary because, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "dominant idea today is that humans like"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "us came into existence less than 200,000"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "years ago. So to have this evidence"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "showing that humans like us were present"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "50 million years ago is really quite"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "astonishing."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": ">> They're still looking for Native"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "American Indian arrowheads as evidence"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "of our antiquity from a couple hundred"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "years ago."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:27", "text": ">> Yeah. And you know these this discovery"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "as announced by Dr. Whitney created some"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "controversy"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "and the scientific community basically"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "rejected the discoveries and it's"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "interesting why they rejected it. There"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "was a an anthropologist named William"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Holmes who worked at the Smithsonian"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Institution in Washington"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "DC."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "and he wrote in one of his reports, \"If"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "Dr. Whitney had understood the theory of"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "human evolution, he wouldn't have come"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "to those conclusions.\""}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "And in other words, if the facts didn't"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "support the theory of evolution with its"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "ideas of a recent origin for the human"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "species, he shouldn't have published"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "that report. He should have known these"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "things could not possibly be true. Now"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "many people think that the way"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "scientists should operate is that if"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "facts are discovered that contradict a"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "theory, the theory should be modified to"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "accommodate the facts. But that's not"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "the way that it always works. And in"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "this case, it most certainly wasn't."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "according to Holmes, these discoveries"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "should not have been reported. They"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "should have simply been forgotten."}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": ">> And basically that's what happened. Now"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "Whitney, he published this report. It"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "was it was published by Harvard"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "University in the year 1880."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "But we don't read about these things in"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "the textbooks today because of what I"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "call a process of knowledge filtration"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "that operates in the world of science."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Now, some of those artifacts are still"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "in the collection of the Museum of"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "Anthropology at the University of"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "California at Berkeley."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": ">> And I've been there. I've seen them. But"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "yeah, the average person who goes to the"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "museum would not suspect that those"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "things are there. They're not shown to"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "the public."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": ">> The average person would have no idea"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "that they're there."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": ">> And what about um there was also"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "something in Kentucky that harkcs back"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "to about 300 million years ago. I don't"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "think it's the same as what we talked"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "about earlier, wasn't it? Human"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "footprints. Yes. They found"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:06", "text": ">> Yes. Uh there was a scientist"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "working in Kentucky in the 1930s and"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "1940s"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "who reported the existence of human"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "footprints"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "in sedimentary formations"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "about 300"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "million years old in Kentucky. Now, some"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "of the skeptics said, \"Well, these must"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "have been carved into the rock somehow.\""}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "But he did detailed studies and he"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "showed uh that, you know, he did"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "microphotographic studies that examined"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "the grains of sand in this uh rock and"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "it showed that there was compression."}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "In other words, that the grains of sand"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "at the bottom of the footprints were"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "compressed together more than uh the the"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "grains of sand at the top of the sides"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "of the footprints which indicated they"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "were made by pressure not by"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:14", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:16", "text": ">> carving into the rock. Now, some one of"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "the skeptical scientists reported in a"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "scientific journal. They said, \"If if"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "this is true, then"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "we should give up our professions as"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "scientists and all take jobs as truck"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "drivers.\""}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:29", "text": ">> Yep. Well, sometimes that might have"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "been a good idea."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> Yeah, it it it it might have been. But"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "yes, that's another case of"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "archaeological evidence for extreme"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "human antiquity. And here we're looking"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "at that 300 million year mark again."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "Same as the two instances we talked"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "about earlier on. Let's do the reverse"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "of what I asked you the first time,"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "which is what was the modern scientific"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "view of what was happening on the earth"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "300 million years ago. Now you already"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "answered that. Now let's look at what"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "was happening 300 million years ago. If"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "you go back to um the kalpa or the yuga"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "cycles,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": ">> well the according to the vdic"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "cosmology,"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "the kalpa is divided into subcycles"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "called manantar"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": ">> periods."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "And according to the Vadic cosmological"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "calendar, we are now in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "the seventh manar period of the current"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "kulpa which began about two billion"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "years ago."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "So according to the vdic cosmology after"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "each mudvventar there is a devastation"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "after which the earth has to be"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "repopulated."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "So that would mean if we're in the"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "seventh Mentar"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "now, then that means there have been six"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "devastations"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "spaced at intervals of about 300 million"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": ">> in the current kalpa or day of Brahma."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Now, it's interesting that according to"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "modern paleontology, there have been six"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "major extinction events in the history"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "of life on Earth spaced at intervals of"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "several hundred million years. The last"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "one being the one that wiped out the"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "dinosaurs."}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": ">> interesting. The 300 million years ago"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "would be in the middle of the sixth"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "monvatar period. According to the Vadic"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "cosmological calendar and according to"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "the piranhas, the Vadic historical text,"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "there were humans existing on earth"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "during the sixth month period and the"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "fifth and the fourth and the third and"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "the"}]

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What other"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "people tell us, what science tells us,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "what ancient religions have told us,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "what culture and history and our own"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "families and friends have told us. And"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "as well-intentioned as all those things"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "are, my question was, what if they're"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "wrong?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "What if they're wrong?"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "What if about 1700 years ago, there was"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "an idea implanted into our global"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "consciousness that says maybe we're not"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "as powerful as we've been in the past,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "or maybe we cannot heal our bodies or"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "create peace between nations or interact"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "with the forces of nature the way that"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "we have in the past. Let me ask, how"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "many think that there is a power, a"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "force within you that has yet to be"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "tapped,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "that is unleashed? Why aren't you using"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "it? If it's there, why why don't we use"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "it? I ask myself the same question. We"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "live our lives based upon what we"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "believe to be true. What if those"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "beliefs,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "as well-intentioned as they are, what if"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "they're wrong? Just how powerful is"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "belief in our lives? Well, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "tell you just a little secret that I've"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "learned. Before I offer a program in"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "this country, I usually test it out in a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "couple of other countries. And my"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "thinking is if I can convey the idea"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "through a translator to"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "non-English-speaking people, maybe it'll"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "make sense here. And one of the first"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "things I found is that you cannot simply"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "walk into a room full of people and say,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "\"Hey, there's a power that lives within"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "you that is yet to be tapped.\" Because"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "your left brain is going to say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "yeah. How do you know? Prove it to me."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Show me. I think that we're willing to"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "change what we believe to be true about"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "ourselves if we're given a good reason"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "to change those beliefs. So, we're going"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "to talk about the discoveries that"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "change who we believe we are. What does"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "science say about who we are? We're"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "going to come to the conclusion that the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "understandings that you and I are not"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "limited by the laws of science. And"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "there's a little asterk right there"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "because that means as we understand"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "those laws today, we are not limited by"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "the laws of biology. You're not governed"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "by your DNA the way you've been"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "conditioned. And I was conditioned to"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "believe that we are. We are not bound,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "we are not limited by the laws of"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "physics as we've been led to believe"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "those laws exist today. And I'll tell"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "you what, if you free yourself of the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "laws of biology and physics, tell me"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "what we can't do. You tell me. We're not"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "limited by the laws of science as we"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "know them today. And I'd like for you to"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "have the opportunity to experience, not"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "just talk about, but to experience the"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "healing language"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "in the field of intelligent energy that"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "connects everything, the field that is"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "now being called the divine matrix. How"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "many are familiar with a brilliant"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "teacher named Neville? He was a a early"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "20th century teacher and philosopher"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "simply went by the name Neville. Uh he"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "wrote a book in 1952. was called the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "power of awareness. It's a simple book."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Each chapter is about a page and a half"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "long and you'll read that chapter and"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "you'll think about it for two weeks."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Really powerful stuff. 1952 Neville"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "wrote the power of awareness and his"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "stated intention. He said the reason I"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "am writing this book is quote he said to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "reveal our infinite power against which"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "no earthly force is of the slightest"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "significance."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Think about that. Do you believe you"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "have a a power within you over which no"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "earthly force is of the slightest"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "significance? Do you honestly believe"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "that? Do you want to believe it? Let me"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "ask that. Do you want to believe it?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> That's all it takes. Because if I can"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "share with you, together we can give our"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "left brain a reason to think differently"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "about ourselves. Our left brain then"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "steps out of the way and frees up our"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "hearts to experience the power and the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "passion of what that's all about."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Neville described this power in us and"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "he used a catch-all term called belief"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and I know you all have heard a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "about belief that I just want to give"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "you an example of the power of the"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "belief that Neville talks about he he"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "gives case history after case history"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "true story after true story of the power"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "of belief the miraculous things that can"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "happen and one of the most poignant for"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "me he was notified of a young man who"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "had been uh diagnosed by western medical"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "doctors what they called an irreversible"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "heart condition. Uh, and he was dying"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "and he had every reason to live. He had"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "a beautiful wife. He had two beautiful,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "beautiful children."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "And he was in his 20s and Neville went"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "to his bedside and the man didn't want"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "to die, but he was so weak by the time"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Neville got to him. And Neville's words,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the man had shrunk to almost a skeleton."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "He said he couldn't even speak. All he"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "could do was nod his head in recognition"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "of what Neville would say to him. And"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Neville began to ask the man rather than"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "wanting his healing or praying for his"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "healing to happen. If you pray for"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "something to happen, what have you just"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "implied? Think about it. If you're"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "asking for it to be present, even when"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "it's well-intentioned,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "you may actually be acknowledging the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "fact that the healing isn't there"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "already. Please let that healing happen."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "It means it's not there right now. We'll"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "talk more about that. Neville asked the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "man, he said, 'I know you can't speak."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "He said, 'd do this. Experience yourself"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "as already healed. Not getting healed or"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "on the way to being healed or the long"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "slow process of thinking about the"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "possibility that you're maybe going to"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "begin the healing process because that's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "our conditioning is that things take a"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "long time that they're slow and and"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "changing. Neville said, \"Experience"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "yourself already healed.\" He said when"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "the doctor comes in in your mind, see"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "this happening again and again. See the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "doctor looking at his chart in amazement"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and saying to himself, it's a miracle."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "It's a miracle that this man is healed."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "6 weeks later, Neville visited the man"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "in his home. The man got up and walked"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "out of the room a couple of days later."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "The doctor said it was an unexplained"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "spontaneous miracle. So they put that in"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "a little pile and they say we'll come"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "back and study that later but first we"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "got to cure cancers and we've got to"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "cure heart conditions because it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "make sense. There's a disconnect in"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "western in the western medical model"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "when you see that Neville asked the man"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "to experience himself as if he was"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "already healed. How much power does"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "belief really have? Any firewalkers in"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "here? Anyone here done the powerful"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "firewalks? Amanda Dennison of Alberta,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Canada entered the Guinness Book of"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "World Records for the longest firewalk"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "on Earth. Now, I've seen firewalks 12,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "15, 20, 30, 50, 100 ft long. She was"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "twice that. What she did was this. She"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "crossed a 220 ft pit with temperatures"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "averaging over,700°"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "F."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "220 ft unscathed. Not a blister on her"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "foot. And I'm not recommending that you"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "try something like this unless you're"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "really prepared to do it. And fire"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "walkers that I've known said if in the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "middle of that pit, if a doubt enters"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "your mind, it's all over. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "But that didn't happen to Amanda. She"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "crossed this 220t pit averaging 1,700°."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "And the question is, when something like"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "that happens, she has no injuries. Why?"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Why would she have no injuries? What is"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "it within her that allowed her to have"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "an experience that physics says"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "shouldn't happen? What is that? You tell"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "me. Belief, of course, it's it's her"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "belief. What is the common link between"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Amanda's firewalk and Neville's young"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "man with a heart condition? What is it"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "within both of those people that allowed"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "them to transcend the condition of their"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "lives?"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> This audience participation, what was"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> Of course, belief. And we know about"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "belief. Rarely is belief defined for us."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "And I felt like it would be an honoring"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "thing to do to define what we're about"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "to talk about so we can talk about it."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "And I know belief means something"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "different, deep and personal to everyone"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "in this room. For the purpose of what"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "we're doing, I'd like to define belief"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "as a marriage of thought and emotion."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "When we are marrying our thoughts and"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "our emotion, what we do is we are"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "literally translating"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the invisible energy or the waves of a"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "quantum possibility"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "into the visible matter or the particles"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "of our real world. Quantum physicists"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "tell us that there's a field of energy"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "that connects everything. And in that"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "field, all things are possible."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Everything that you could ever imagine"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "is possible in that field. Everything"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "from the lightest of the light to the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "darkest of the dark. All the greatest"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "pain and suffering and all the ecstasy"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "and the joy and the abundance and the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "healing. And this is why I believe so"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "many of our most cherished and ancient"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "traditions say very clearly that you are"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "already healed."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Your healing has already happened in"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "this field. This field is the blueprint"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "for everything that happens in our"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "world. The healing's already happened."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "What we must do is claim that blueprint"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "for our lives. And the way we do it is"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "by marrying the thought. We think about"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "something. This is our modeling. In our"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "minds, we think of the possibility of"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "our healing or our peace or our abundant"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "or our perfect relationship or our"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "perfect success or our perfect careers."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "And into"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "that thought, we pump the power of our"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "love"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "for that thought or our fear or our hate"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "for what it is. And when we do that,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "that is how we translate the waves of"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "possibility into the particles of what"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "we call reality. Thoughts and emotions."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "I've done this enough years ago. This is"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "the 20th year we've offered this work in"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "one form or another. And I I thought I"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "would bore you if I talked about"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "thoughts, feelings, and emotions. And"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "I'm finding a lot of people are asking"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "me how do you define what's the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "difference between thought, feeling, and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "emotion. So are you okay if I do this"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "just for a minute?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> We make this definition and then and"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "then we'll move on from here. Thought,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "feeling, and emotion. This comes right"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "out of an ancient Sanskrit text. They're"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "showing the energy centers in our body."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "What the ancients say, and this"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "particular form is in the Sanskrit"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "tradition. They say that we are capable"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "of only two basic emotions in this world"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "and they happen in the lower energy"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "centers of our bodies. We're capable of"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "what they call love and whatever you"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "think the opposite is. So love and hate."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "And when you get really deep into the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "traditions, they're both they're the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "same thing. But those are the emotions"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "that come from these lower energy"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "centers. They are a power source."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "A power source. And from that power,"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "it's what we use to tear down the walls"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "and break down the barriers of"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "everything that stands between us and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "our most cherished desires. However,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "that power source is scattered. And if"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "you've ever known someone that lives"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "only in their emotions, you ever known"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "any maybe you live in your emotions,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "life can get a little chaotic when"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "you're living only from these energy"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "centers here because the emotion has to"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "be given guidance, direction, and that"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "guidance is from the upper three energy"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "centers according to Sanskrit traditions"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "that we call thought. Now, when we marry"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "something that we're thinking about with"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "the power of our love or our hate for"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "that something, what happens is we"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "create what we call a feeling. And by"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "definition, feeling now is the union of"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "thought and emotion. Does that make"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "sense? You okay with that? We think"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "about something and into that thought,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "we fuel it. We imbue it with life"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "through the power of our love or our"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "hate for that thing. Does that make"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "sense? You okay with that? When we do"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that, what's the one energy center that"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "hasn't been accounted for? Our heart."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "And this is why the language of the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "heart is literally the language that"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "allows us to create in our world. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "from our hearts where the ancients say"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "this great battle happens. The battle"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "between what we feel in our emotions or"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "what our emotions are saying to us and"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "what logic is dictating. They come"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "together and the great battle happens"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "right here in the seven layer liquid"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "crystal oscillator that we call the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "human heart. And when we do that by"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "definition now we have feelings. Fear is"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "a feeling. Sadness is a feeling. Joy,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "compassion, those are feelings"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "and those become our beliefs."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "And those experiences are the language"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "that we use to create with. So belief is"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the marriage of our thoughts and our"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "emotions. It translates the invisible"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "possibilities of what we feel into the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "visible matter of our world of our"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "bodies and the events that are happening"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "around us. So when you ask the question,"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "who are we? I can say that you and I are"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "literally reality makers."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "We're transformers."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "We transform the possibilities"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "that we can't see into the things that"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "are real in our lives. The key is"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "however that we can make only what we"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "believe. Isn't that interesting? We can"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "make only what we believe. So the new"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "discoveries in science now confirm that"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "we're not limited by those laws of"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "biology. We're not limited by the laws"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "of physics, at least the way we've come"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "to understand them today. So the"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "question, the great question in science,"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "are you and I simply passive observers"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "cruising through life with very little"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "effect on our world, on our universe, on"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "one another, or are we powerful"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "creators? This is this is the great"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "quandry that science is struggling with"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "right now. It's the kind of thing that"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Einstein just made Einstein crazy when"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "they were asking these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "questions. So, I'm going to share two"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "very different belief systems about who"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "we are. And then I'd like to share the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "science that has only come about in the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "last few years, and then we're going to"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "take that into a Tibetan monastery and"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "find out what their texts say, and then"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "we're going to apply it in our lives."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Einstein, I was surprised when I read"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "this because I I I thought Einstein was"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "much more holistic. But what I found was"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "this. Einstein was of the belief. He"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "said, \"We live in a world which exists"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "independently"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "of us humans.\" He said, \"The world can"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "take us or leave us. The world really"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "doesn't need us.\" He said, \"Which stands"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "before us like a great eternal riddle at"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "least partially accessible to our"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "inspection and thinking.\" He says, \"If"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "we're lucky, maybe we'll understand a"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "little bit of what this world is all"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "about.\" On the one hand, on the other"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "hand, there was a colleague of"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Einstein's, John Wheeler of Princeton"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "University, a contemporary of"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Einstein's. They worked together. They"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "had very different ideas about who we"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "are in the universe. Wheeler said just"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the opposite. Wheeler said we could not"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "even imagine a universe that did not"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "contain us. He said because the very"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "building blocks, the stuff the universe"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "is made out of are our acts of looking"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "at the universe. Now think about that."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "He said the act of us observing our"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "world is an act of creation unto itself."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "Just by looking, there are no passive"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "observers is what he's saying. There's"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "no passive observers. The act of us"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "looking at our world, our awareness is"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "going to create whatever we are"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "expecting to see while we're looking."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "What a very very different way of seeing"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "things are both working with the same"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "data. Very different way of seeing"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "things. Well, if we'd like to know who"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "we are, for the last uh 90 years or so,"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "physicists have done their very best to"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "convince us all that we're made out of"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "tiny particles"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "of energy called quantum energy. Have"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "you all heard that before? And they"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "they've convinced me. I mean, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "with them right now. So, 90 years"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "they've been trying to convince us that"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "we're made out of quantum particles on"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "the one hand. On the other hand, now"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "that they've got the equipment that can"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "really look at what these particles do,"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "and these particles do miraculous"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "things, they say, \"Well, that has"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "nothing to do with your life. You're"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "made out of these miraculous particles,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "but it doesn't mean you can do the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "miraculous things those particles are"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "doing.\" For example,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "quantum energy can be what we call"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "visible matter. It can be a particle."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "That's what you and I are today right"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "here. Visible quantum energy. That same"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "particle can exist in the way that you"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "can't see it"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "as invisible energy. It's still there."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "It's just changed its expression."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Quantum energy can be invisible energy."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "Waves."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "A particle, a quantum particle can exist"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "in one place. It can exist in two places"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "at the same time. It can exist in many"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "places at the same time. And no matter"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "where those particles are, they're"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "always connected."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "Always connected. as if they are one and"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "the same no matter where they are."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Quantum particles are not limited"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "in space and time. Quantum particles are"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "not limited in time. In other words,"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "physicists can take a quantum particle"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "and they know everything about that"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "particle that makes it as it is and what"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "has to be in place for that particle to"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "exist. Okay? They can take it from the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "past five minutes ago and bring it into"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "the present. Okay? and they can change"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "it in the present"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "and when they do that it changes"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "everything that happened in the past for"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "it to get there. That's a mindboggler."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "What they're saying is that in physics"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "those particles have the ability to go"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "back in time and change their behavior."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "And they're asking, are we doing that?"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Do we have the ability to do that? Maybe"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "we do it all the time. Maybe we do it so"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "frequently it's so common we don't even"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "think about it. Maybe the world that we"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "see right now is as it is because of"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "what we've learned from our past and"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "we're applying it now. Maybe the world"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "would be in a much worse place, a worse"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "condition if we hadn't learned from our"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "past. But this is what they're finding."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "So my question to you is all those"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "quantum particles, are they showing us"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "our limits? If we're made out of those"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "particles, are they showing us our"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "scientific limits or are they showing us"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "our greatest potential? What do you"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "think? Is it possible that the stuff the"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "universe is made of could be the map of"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "our greatest possibilities if we have"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "the wisdom to see it? I mean, think"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "about that. Can we do everything that"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "those quantum particles just did? The"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "big yes. In documented instances in"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "current and past history, humans have"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "done everything. They have been in two"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "places at once. They have interacted"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "with the past and the future and brought"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "back that information."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "This phenomenon is so real. US military"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "uses these principles today. Something"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "called remote viewing. It's where an"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "individual is trained to be in a room in"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "a given moment of time and through a"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "facilitator they are talked into a state"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "of consciousness where time and space"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "don't exist in the same way. And in that"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "state, they can see in their mind's eye."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "in 1991, for example, where the Scud"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "missiles were located in the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "battlefields of Iraq without having to"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "send our troops in and risk their lives"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "to do that."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "That can only happen when these"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "principles are real and we understand"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "them because in that state of"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "consciousness, distance doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "Time doesn't exist. We can do everything"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "that those quantum particles just did."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "We're all connected. You are not limited"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "to the body that's sitting in this chair"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "right now. I'm going to tell you that"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "right now. You don't end where your skin"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "or your clothing or your hair ends. What"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "the experiments are showing is that the"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "human energy system on the quantum level"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "extends many, many, many miles from the"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "place where our physical bodies reside."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "You're all over the place. You're in my"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "room right now and I'm in yours. We're"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "made of the same quantum particles that"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "act miraculously. We're made out of"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "matter. In 1944,"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "the father of quantum theory, his name"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "was Mox Plank. He made a statement and"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "this is a powerful I mean today it"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "sounds very current. 1944 he made this"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "statement. As a man who has devoted his"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "whole life to the most clear-headed"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "science, to the study of matter, I can"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "tell you as a result of my research"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "about the atoms this much."}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "He said the stuff we're made out of"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "doesn't exist. There is no matter as"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "such. But he went on to say what we see"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "as matter originates and exists only by"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "virtue of a force. He said we must"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "assume behind this force the existence"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "of a conscious and intelligent mind. He"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "said there's something out there that"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "underlies it precedes everything else."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "He said this mind is what he called the"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "matrix of all matter. There's a matrix"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "of energy that underlies all things."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "It's not separate from us. We're part of"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "it. We're in that field right now. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "we're made of the same stuff that makes"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "this matrix of all matter. What makes us"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "different from those quantum particles?"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "We looked at one quantum particle that"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "can move forward and backwards in time."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "What makes us different from those"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "particles?"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Well, we're made of a lot of particles,"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "first of all. And our particles are all"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "held together through a focus of what?"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Consciousness. Consciousness is what"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "organizes all of those quantum particles"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "into the stuff our bodies and our world"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "are made of. I want to go back to"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "something John Wheeler said because this"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "is so profound and so powerful. Wheeler"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "said, \"We're part of a universe that's"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "not finished yet.\" He said, \"We're part"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "of a universe that's a work in"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "progress.\" He said, \"We're tiny patches"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "of the universe looking at itself in"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "building itself in what he calls a"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "participatory universe.\" I love that"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "word"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "participatory. It doesn't mean that"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "we're imposing our will. It doesn't mean"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "that we're manipulating or that we're"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "controlling. He says we're participating"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "in the way this thing called the"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "universe comes out. Now, I know it's"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "easy to read these words and write them"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "down on a piece of paper. But look at"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "what he just said. He said, \"We're part"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "of a universe. It's not finished yet."}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "It's still building itself.\" What"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Wheeler is saying is, \"We'll probably"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "never find the edge of our universe.\""}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "Have you all laid awake in bed at night,"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "as I do so often, and wonder how come"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "they never found the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "universe yet? We got the Hubble"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "telescope up there and it keeps looking"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "and every time they think they find the"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "edge,"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": ">> there's something there and then they"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "look beyond that and there's You ever"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "wonder why?"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": ">> You ever wonder why we haven't found the"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "smallest particle of matter? We've been"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "trying this since the 1940s. They take a"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "little particle of matter and what's"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "called a cyclron. They get this thing"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "going really fast. They smash it into"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "another particle. make just bursted in"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "into a bajillion smaller particles"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "thinking that we're going to find that"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "ultimate smallest particle. And every"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "time they say, \"Ah, we've got it.\" And"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "then that particle is made of something"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "even more fundamental. You ever wonder"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "why? This is the reason why. What John"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "Wheeler is saying is we'll probably"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "never find the smallest particle of"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "matter. We'll probably never find the"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "edge of the universe."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "Because what John Wheeler is saying and"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "you're going to see this what the"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "experiments are showing is the act of"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "consciousness us awareness looking and"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "focusing with the expectation that"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "something exists will put something"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "there for us to see."}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "The act of us exploring and looking our"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "awareness looking with the expectation"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "that something there will always put"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "something there for us to see. What a"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "powerful statement to make."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "And if you're not an astronomer and"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "you're not a physicist, this still has"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "relevance in your daily life. Think"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "about this. What does it mean when"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "you're conditioned in your world to be"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "afraid"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "of all the things that can happen to"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "your body or all the things that can"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "happen in that big scary world out"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "there. And so every week you examine"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "your body looking for something to be"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "wrong and searching with the expectation"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "that maybe something is there. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "saying not to look. I'm saying it's the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "consciousness that's there while you're"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "looking. If you're looking with the"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "expectation that something there and you"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "say, \"Well, it's not there this week."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "We'll see what happens next week.\" Can"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "you see the implications? Can you see"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "the difference between simply looking"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "and examining and examining with the"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "fear that something might be there like"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "a lump where it's not supposed to be."}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "You get where that's where that's coming"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "from? Powerful. This is powerful stuff"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "that Wheeler is talking to us about."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "Bottom line right now, an intelligent"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "field of energy unites everything in the"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "universe. Number one. Number two, the"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "stuff we're made of is a materialization"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "of what's in that field."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "all the good and all the bad, all the"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "light and all the dark. The field"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "doesn't know about right and wrong in"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "light and dark. It's a neutral field,"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "unbiased. It simply allows us to create"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "within this field. And the quantum"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "language of belief"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "and emotion is what gives us a power to"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "translate what's in that field into"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "what's real in our world. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "share with you why it is that you and I"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "are wired to create. It's impossible not"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "to create. If you're in this world, if"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "you're alive and conscious right now,"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "you're creating. The question is, do you"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "know what you're creating? But you're"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "you're making something right now."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "You're having a conversation. You and I"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "are engaged in an ongoing dialogue with"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "this field, this intelligent essence."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "And the field is talking back to us."}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "It's answering us. If we have the wisdom"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "to recognize we're feeling feelings in"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "our bodies, that field is mirroring back"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "in our relationships, in our careers, in"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "our abundance, in your checkbook,"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "in your relationships what it is that"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "you've said. This is leading to a new"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "science and a new spirituality. Doesn't"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "even have a name yet. It's based on"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "beliefs. A lot of scientists are having"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "problems with this. DNA doesn't govern"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "our bodies anymore. Our beliefs govern"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "the DNA that governs the body. As a dear"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "friend of mine, Dr. Bruce Lipton has so"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "brilliantly, brilliantly shared. It's"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "called epigenetics."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "To some scientists, is a big deal. Bruce"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "has been doing it since the 70s and"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "talking about it. It's based on belief."}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "So, the question, what do you believe"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "about yourself? I'm choosing three"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "representative experiments. Uh there are"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "others out there that show the same"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "thing, but I I thought these were uh"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "good representative experiments to show"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "you why we are not passive observers in"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "our universe. Experiment number one,"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "this first one was performed in uh uh"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "University of Geneva in Switzerland."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "I was wondering why wasn't it on the"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "cover of of USA Today or Time magazine."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "I mean, this is some pretty big stuff,"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "but they make it sound very technical."}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "It's not that people didn't know about"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "it. This experiment was reported to over"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "3,400 journalists, educators,"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "scientists, engineers in more than 40"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "different countries on Friday, July"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "25th, 1997. About 1:00 in the afternoon"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "is when it happened. What they did was"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "this. They took a particle of light"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "called a photon and they wanted two"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "identical particles. So they took this"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "one and they split it in half and made"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "identical twins. So now we have photon"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "one and photon 2. It's particled light."}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "The stuff, this stage, this room, the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "physical material of our world is made"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "out of. They put these two photons in a"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "little device that was made to shoot"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "them in opposite directions away from"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "one another, seven miles from the center"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "of this box to that target and seven"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "miles from the center of the box to that"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "target. So that when they reach their"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "respective targets right there, they're"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "14 miles apart."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "That's a big trip for a little photon."}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "And when they are 14 miles apart, what"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "the experimenters did was a series of"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "experiments. They disturbed this photon."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "They said they tickled it is the word"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "they used. They tickled it. So they"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "tickled the one on the right. And when"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "they tickled the one on the right, what"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "they found is the one on the left acted"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "like it was the one that just got"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "tickled. Even though they're 14 miles"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "apart, they act like they're still"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "connected. This is important to you and"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "me, believe it or not. Question is why?"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "Why would that happen? What the"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "researchers have called this phenomenon,"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "if you're reading any of the new science"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "out there, it's called entanglement. I"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "love that term, entanglement. What this"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "experiment showed was that particles"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "that are once"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "joined physically, even when they're"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "separated,"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "remain linked energetically. It is"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "important because it implies that once"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "matter is connected, it's always"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "connected. What is the moment in physics"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "or the moment that physicists say all"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "things began in our universe? What do"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "they call that moment? If we go back in"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "time to the beginning of the universe,"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "what's that moment?"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": ">> Call it the big bang. But what"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "scientists say is there was a moment in"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "time immediately after the big bang that"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "our entire universe, if you could take"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "all of the space out from in between"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "the particles that make our universe"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "today and take all the matter that"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "remains and compress it. They say there"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "was a moment in time when our entire"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "universe was about this size. It was"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "about the size of a single green pee."}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "When I'm talking to these these"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "scientists, I said, \"Well, tell me about"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "this green pee.\" And they said, \"Well,\""}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "they said, \"When this happened, the"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "temperatures were estimated to be about"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "18 billion million million million"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "degrees Fahrenheit.\" I said, \"Oh, come"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "on. How do you guys even know that?\" And"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "they said, \"Okay, we don't, but it was"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "hot.\" Okay, it was really hot. We know"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "that a long time ago. It was really hot."}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "And then it began to expand."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "The hot univer that hot green pea"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "started to expand and it's still"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "expanding today according to the"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "theories. But here's the the whole point"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "of doing this is because it was once"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "compressed into a single connected"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "particle"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "that is called the big bang singularity."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "What does that say about our universe?"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "The instant everything was once"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "physically connected."}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "The experiments are showing that once"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "things are physically connected, even"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "though they're separate, the energy is"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "still linked. And for me, this was"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "important because my I can't tell you"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "how much ever since I was a kid, we live"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "in the high deserts of northern New"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "Mexico and the native traditions in our"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "part of the world, they always say"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "everything's connected. And you want to"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "believe it and you say, \"Yeah, you know,"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "everything's connected. Everything's"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "one.\" But doesn't look connected to me."}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "Doesn't act connected. But this is"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "telling us why we can say this and why"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "we can say it with certainty. Everything"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "that was once connected in the beginning"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "of time, what we call the big bang, even"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "though it's physically separate, that"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "energy is still there. In the Geneva"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "experiment, is proving that even we take"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "those particles today and do the same"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "thing, they're physically connected. So"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "the question, are we still connected?"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "Does this make sense to you why we would"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "be connected? Is it helpful to know that"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "once something is connected, even though"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "it's energetically or even though it's"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "physically separated, it's still linked?"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "To me, that's useful. Next experiment."}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "This was done by a quantum biologist"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "from Russia's Academy of Sciences. His"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "name was Poponian. He took a glass tube."}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "He took all the air out from inside that"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "tube, creating what we call a vacuum,"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "suggesting that tube is empty. And"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "already they got a problem because they"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "know that tube's not empty. They know"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "it's not empty because inside that tube,"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "you're all an expert on what's in there."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "Photons, photons are in that tube. And"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "the qu they know they're there. The"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "question is where are those photons? Are"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "they all like piled up at the bottom?"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "Are they clinging to the sides? Are they"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "hovering in the air? Where are they? So"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "they they built a device to measure"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "where those photons are. And here's what"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "they found. They found that those"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "photons were absolutely random. Every"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "one of them. No surprise here. This is"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "just what they expected. It was a good"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "day so far for the scientists. The"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "experiments are interesting. But what's"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "really interesting to me is the thinking"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "that underlies the experiment. The"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "question that Poponian asked. He said,"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "\"What happens if we take some human DNA"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "and put it into this tube with the"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "photons?"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "What he's asking is what happens if you"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "take the stuff we're made of and you put"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "it into a tube with the stuff the rest"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "of the universe is made of. What'll"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "happen? Why should anything happen?"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "There's absolutely nothing in"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "conventional western physics that says"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "that the stuff you and I are made of has"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "any effect on this stage or these walls"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "or the floor or even one another. But"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "look what they did. put some human DNA"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "into the tube and look what the photons"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "did. The photons were no longer random."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "They actually aligned themselves with"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "the DNA."}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "Now under strict laboratory conditions"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "for the first time, they're showing what"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "the ancient spiritual traditions have"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "said for a long long time that we have"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "an effect on our world that human DNA is"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "affecting the stuff our world is made"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "of. Now the day changed for the"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "scientists because they had to look at"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "things differently. The photons became"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "ordered. When the DNA was removed to"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "their amazement,"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "the photons acted like the DNA was still"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "there. Just like when you tickle one"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "photon 14 miles away, its twin acts like"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "it's still there. The question is why?"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "There's nothing nothing in conventional"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "western physics that gives us a reason"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "why this would work. It's called the DNA"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "phantom effect because it happens"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "whether the DNA is there or not. So this"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "experiment number two, it says that DNA,"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "the stuff we're made of, directly"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "affects our world. It's the first time"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "under laboratory conditions, the best of"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "my knowledge they've been able to show"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "this experiment number three was done"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "1993. The folks at the Institute of"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "Heart Math, it was reported in the"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "Journal of Scientific Exploration."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "What they were showing is they said that"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "we want to know what is the effect of"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "human emotion on DNA. When we change the"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "way we feel in our bodies, what does it"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "do to the DNA? Well, there's nothing in"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "conventional western physics that"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "suggests it would do anything to the"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "DNA. But look at what they found. Human"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "DNA was isolated so they could measure"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "its shape"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "and its chemical characteristics. In the"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "presence of what you would call"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "gratitude, appreciation, love,"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "compassion, positive emotions, the DNA"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "relaxed. It changed its shape. It"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "elongated itself."}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "And this is the shape of DNA when we've"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "got really strong immune systems."}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "When the DHEA levels, those youth"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "affirming hormones in our bodies are"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "really cranking. That's what's happening"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "right here. What do you think happened"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "in the presence of anger, frustration,"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "jealousy, hate, rage? What happened"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "exactly? Wound it up tighter and a"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "little top just like that. And all they"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "did was change the way they were"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "feeling. That's all they did. They said"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "individuals trained in feelings of deep"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "love and appreciation were able to"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "intentionally change the shape of their"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "DNA. Human emotion produces effects that"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "defy that defy the conventional laws of"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "physics. You and I have a power within"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "us that is not bound by the laws of"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "physics as we know them today. And these"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "experiments are showing that. So you put"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "these three together and admittedly I'm"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "going through these at a high level very"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "quickly. There's a lot more that we"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "could do with these and if you're"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "interested it's in the in the open"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "literature. The new discoveries are"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "showing us this. Number one, emotion"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "changes the DNA in our bodies. Number"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "two, the DNA is changing the matter."}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "When we change the way we feel, we're"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "changing our world if we know how to"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "create the right kinds of feelings. The"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "experiment suggests that this field of"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "energy, Max Planck's uh matrix, is the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "conduit that makes this all possible."}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "This field is so new it doesn't even"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "have a name, one name yet. Some"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "scientists are calling it a quantum"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "hologram. Others are calling it the"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "field. Some are calling it the mind of"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "God. And others are calling it the"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "divine matrix."}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "So we know that this field is out there."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "This divine matrix, if you want to think"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "about what it is, it's the pure space"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "where everything begins. The container"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "for the universe, the bridge between"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "what happens inside of our bodies and"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "what happens outside of our bodies and"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "the mirror in the world around us, what"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "we've become. And this leads to the what"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "is called the great spiritual mystery."}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "Great spiritual mystery says that"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "there's something we do in our lives"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "that triggers a process inside of our"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "bodies. Once it begins, it interacts"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "with the forces of creation"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "and affects our physical world. So"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "something that we do in our lives"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "affects our physical world. And the"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "experiments just showed us how this"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "works. If we don't understand it, it's a"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "miracle."}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "But if we do understand it, it's a"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "technology. And it is in some parts of"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "the world. This is a technology. The key"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "is it's something that we do. If we want"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "to unleash that force, would you like to"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "unleash that kind of force in your life?"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "Well, I I would as well. We've got to"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "understand how it works, which we've"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "just done. And we've got to speak the"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "language. Speak the language that it"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "recognizes. So, want to go back to this"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "photon experiment one more time. This"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "photon is separated from this one by 14"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "miles. When this one is tickled, this"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "one acts like it's tickled. The question"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "is why? Why does it happen? The reason"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "it happens is because number one, we"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "said they were entangled already. Number"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "two, they are said to be holographic."}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "The bottom line for what we're doing"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "here, the way we can think about our"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "world is in a hologram."}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "Every fragment of a something"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "mirrors the whole something. Every"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "little piece of a something mirrors that"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "whole something. So, for example, if"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "we're looking at the universe and we cut"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "the universe in half and cut those in"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "half again, every one of those fragments"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "would mirror the entire universe. And"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "you can do this again and again and"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "again. If every fragment mirrors every"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "other fragment, and you make a change in"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "one piece of the universe, what does"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "that mean for the other pieces? If we"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "make a change in one fragment of our"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "universe, it changes in all the"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "fragments. This is important because you"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "and I are holographic in nature. That's"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "why that's why your DNA works the way it"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "does. That's why you can take the DNA"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "from a strand of hair and you've got the"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "DNA for your whole body because that"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "fragment mirrors the whole. You and I"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "are holographic in nature. Every time we"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "make a little change in terms of the way"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "we feel about our world or our bodies,"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "that change is mirrored to some degree"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "in the world around us. So with that in"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "mind, when we go back to this"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "experiment, this is important. This"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "photon right here had an experience. It"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "was disturbed. It was tickled by the"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "researchers. This one acted like it had"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "the experience. How did the information"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "of what it felt like to be tickled from"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "this photon get 14 miles over here to"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "the second photon? How' the information"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "get from here to there? Or did it did"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "the information have to get from there"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "to there? No. Because of the holographic"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "principle. It says that once something"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "changes in one place, it changes"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "everywhere. That information was already"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "there. It didn't have to travel. This is"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "the reason why your prayers are so"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "important. When you pray for your loved"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "ones in the battlefields and you say,"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "\"How does my prayer get all the way over"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "there halfway around the world?\" You"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "don't have to get your prayer there"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "because a part of you is already there."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "That prayer is already there. The key is"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "to focus on the clarity of the prayer in"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "your heart and it's already there. We"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "are affecting the world in ways we're"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "only beginning to understand. However,"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "most people do it unconsciously. If"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "we're all unconsciously muddling through"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "the world, none of us have that much of"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "effect."}]

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Watch this."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Bro, what is this?"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Yo."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Look at this."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "I'm so like, bro."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "What is this?"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> This is the west I've ever seen in"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "my life."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Is it real? Like, where what is this?"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "I'm kind of scared, but I'm not. But"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "what is it?"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "The is that?"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Crazy video coming into third phase of"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the moon of a rainbow shooting in a"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "vertical position across the night sky"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "unlike any kind of weather phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "that I've ever seen. Guys, take a look."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Look at this. the prism of light and how"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "sharp it is as it's just shooting across"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "the sky over there for quite some"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "distance. What is this? 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Let's get to it, guys."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "I know."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "I know."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "All right. What's going on above the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "buildings? A series of lights almost"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "seemingly"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "looking like a solid object, but it's"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "hard to tell, Brett. What do you make?"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Is this a just some kind of charge"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "cluster phenomenon?"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Yeah. Notice these array of lights."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Could they be individual lights? I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "know. But what I'm looking at it when"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "we're looking at this, I don't see these"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "objects falling. They seem to be"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "stationary and somewhat connected."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Wow, this is some cool video. Let's roll"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "it one more time. What's your opinion,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "guys? What are we looking at here?"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "There's like 15 individual orbs"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "underneath this uh plasmic static in the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "sky, just suspended in the air. These"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "orbs seem to move ever so slightly."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Interesting catch. And uh definitely if"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "you're out there at night and you see"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "something strange, you start filming"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "because we're looking at something"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "that's unexplained at the moment."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "All right, more videos into third phase"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "moon. Let's get to it, guys."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Let's"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "zoom in."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Wow, it's cute."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Right. Let's get a closeup. I'm zooming"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "it in. We're looking at something caught"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "in broad daylight. This was captured in"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Norway and uh it appears to be some kind"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "of metallic"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "cylindrical cigar- shaped UFO. But"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "what's your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Yeah, definitely a good video. These"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "people, they don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "That's why they're filming it. And we're"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "seeing something off in the distance."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "Could it be some sort of I don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "surveillance drone? I'm not sure. But"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "this is uh some pretty sharp footage of"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "the classic flying saucer if that's what"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "we're looking at. Yeah. I'm wondering if"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "it's a a disc shape or a tubular shape,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "a cigar- shaped. Guys, again, you see"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "this energy at the front of it, almost"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "glinting from the sun. An unmanned"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "aerial blimp or something otherworldly."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Guys, what's your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "All right, more videos into third phase."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Watch this. A discovery came in to our"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Gmail just moments ago from Johnny"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Castle of what looks to be a massive"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "triangular shaped geological formation"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "that looks like the TR3B, but this thing"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "is massive. Is this something natural?"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "So, we did a little research on the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "area. It's in the Nevada desert. And"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "look at this. There's a arrow built"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "built in concrete next to this massive"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "geological area and it says the air mail"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "navigation arrow TR3B. Did you see that?"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "This was built sometime in the 20s I"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "believe that tells aerial airplanes as"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "they fly over the area to go into this"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "direction. But look at this. The air"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "male navigation arrow labeled the TR3B."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "What? This doesn't make any sense. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "we have this aerial direction for"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "airplanes flying above. But what's up"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "with this massive"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "geological shaped U um TR3B right there?"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "So, that's the arrow area. And this is"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "the geological formation right next to"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "it. Why they named it the airmail TR3B,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "I have no idea. Maybe somebody could"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "help us out in this episode. But this is"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "a amazing discovery by Johnny Castle."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Look it. It's almost 0.69. It's almost"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "It's almost a mile long as we look at"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "the coordinates and the length. Uh 0.69"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "mi uh in length here. And I did the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "measurement on the other side and it"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "pretty much matches up into a straight"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "triangle. So, what's going on in the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Nevada desert? And again, you can look"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "for yourself. There's the coordinates."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Go look it up. It's there."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Then we have this anomaly of this arrow"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "right on the corner of this massive"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "triangle shaped again natural formation."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "I don't know man. This this looks too"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "geometrically designed to me. And then"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "we have the this navigation the air mail"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "navigation arrow basically letting"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "people know in the 1920s to uh fly in"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "this direction. But they they also call"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "it the TR3B. So, what's up with that,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Brian? This reminds me of conversations"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "that Tim Burchett has been talking about"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "recently about crashed vehicles, and"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Greer's been talking about it, too, that"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "they're so big they can't move them, so"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they just bury him in place. Could this"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "be basically what's going on there? cuz"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "it it looks somewhat like a huge crash"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "TR3B that's just been cemented into the"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "ground and possible possibly covered up"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "as just some obvious or natural uh"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "geological structure"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "basically hidden in plain sight. But"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "yeah, Tim Burchett and Dr. Gre's has"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "been recently mentioning these uh"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "unreovable"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "UFOs and uh are we looking at something"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "that's been there for maybe quarter of"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "million years, maybe millions of years"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "old, guys? We got to do more"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "investigation on what's going on in this"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "TR3B"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "uh arrow there. It seems like it's open"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "to the public. Maybe we'll check it out."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "But now, more videos. This coming out of"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Africa. Did you see it right above"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "it? just shot over their head. The guy"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "managed to capture just a few seconds."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "He probably saw it coming like an"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "inbound missile and uh captured as it"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "just swooshes overhead. Let's watch this"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "once again. I'm going to get a closeup."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Whatever it is, it's booking, man. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "had to mute the m uh mute the background"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "music so we couldn't add the audio. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "we couldn't really tell if there's any"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "audio coming from this craft, but"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "everything seems legit. This is pretty"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "crazy what's going on in Africa."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Definitely, there was a music, but you"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "didn't hear any, you know, really means"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "of propulsion. No sound coming from"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "this. And look at the speed. It just"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "shoots straight as an arrow as it flies"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "right over their head. And I don't see"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "no wings. I don't see no propellers."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "What kind of vehicle is this?"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Yeah, I saw on the post uh after"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Captain_zor"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "posted this on the Tik Tok that some"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "people are actually saying that it looks"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "like Superman, but uh I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "just really cool. The its flight"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "characteristics seem seem just kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "otherworldly to me. The way it just has"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "no means of propulsion. It's a curious"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "UFO. Again, broad daylight captured in"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Africa. Guys, what's your thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "one more time here? A good closeup."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "All right, more videos into third phase"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "of moon, guys. We've got them for you."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Take a look."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> All right, this one coming in from UFO"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "God. I I remember just a few days ago,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "if you look at our episode two days ago,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "this paraglider was jumping uh flying"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "around and he captured something very"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "similar to this in the sky. And we're"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "looking at this"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "really close-up footage. This goes on"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "for probably about 30 seconds. Oops. Uh"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "we're"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "playing this video, but again, the means"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "of propulsion, it seems to be uh"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "non-existent with these UFOs. Let's get"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "back to uh this crazy enhancement"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "stabilize video of this."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "I've seen UFOs come in all shapes and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "sizes, but this has like this retro"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "stainless steel. It It seems man-made to"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "me, but it's just crazy in this enhanced"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "stabilized version. Look at the work"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "behind this."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "You know, a lot of people are suggesting"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "that this could be AI. You know, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "ruling it out. There are some cool"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "aspects. People when this first dropped"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "just a couple days ago, there was only a"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "still and people are like, \"Where's the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "video? Where's the video?\" Where well"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "UFO God, you know, he captured there"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that there's actual footage that was"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "captured, not not just a photo, but look"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "at the extreme detail on on that craft."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Yeah, there's so many components uh to"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "the this device. I'm calling it a device"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "because it looks like a mechanized"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "flying object there. Look at it. Almost"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "seems that they're parts from a naval"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "submarine and some nautical instruments"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "in there. It's interesting."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Yeah, it looks retro."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Again, broad daylight sighting UFO God."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "He puts out a lot of videos on his on"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "his TikTok. This is uh pretty amazing"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "stuff if this is indeed legitimate."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Guys, I want to get your thoughts. And"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "this enhanced version is quite"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "interesting. Now, the government's been"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "talking about UFOs. Listen,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> few days ago, President Trump directed"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "you to begin the process of identifying"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "and releasing the UFO and UAP files. I"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "did you ever think that you would be the"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "Secretary of War in charge of"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "potentially declassifying"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "extraterrestrial life? to the American"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> I did not I did not have that on my"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "bingo card at all."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> And are you prepared to do that now?"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> Of course. I mean, we've got our people"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "working on it right now. I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "oversell how much time it will take,"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "right? We're we're digging in. We're"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "going to be in full compliance with that"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "executive order. You here to provide"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that for the president. So, there'll be"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "more coming on that as far as the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "process of what we'll do."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> And and what sort of time frame do you"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "have any sense for how long this is"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "going to take?"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> I don't have a time frame for you yet,"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "but stand by. We'll get we'll get it for"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "later. Do you think aliens exist?"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": ">> We'll see. I I get to do the review and"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "find out along with you."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> All right. The head of the Department of"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "War, Pete, uh made some statements today"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "with regards to Donald Trump's"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "statements that he's directed the D to"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "release all files of UFOs and UAPs and"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "extraterrestrial existence. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "holding my breath, Brett. Yeah, exactly."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "when the government's going to say that"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "they're going to be disclosing the UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "phenomenon and getting down to, you"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "know, the big answer we're all looking"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "for. Are we alone? Well, it's not going"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "to be coming from uh the White House."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Let's just say that,"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "right? You're looking at our latest"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "documentary that we produced and"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "directed with Dr. Steven Greer. We were"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "in the desert for 15 days embedded"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "within a group of people"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "summoning or making contact with UFOs"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "using the C5 protocol. And let me tell"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "you, it was so unexpected what happened"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "out there in the desert. And we're so"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "excited to present to you C5, the new"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "frontier of contact. It's available"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "right now to stream Amazon, iTunes,"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "Google Play, and uh I think this is the"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "heart of the secrecy. As Dr. Greer says,"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "this is what the CIA doesn't want you to"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "know with regards to you, the person,"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "your own individual consciousness, could"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "make contact and the experience that we"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "had out in the desert. Brent, tell us"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "shortly what you felt. Yeah, what we saw"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "is more like it. were there with our"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "cameras trained to the sky and we're"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "capturing the phenomenon craft. They're"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "flying above us. People were in shock."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "The phenomenon was real and it was all"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "around us and the the footage you will"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "believe after you watch this"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "documentary. It's amazing."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Yeah, it was brutal out there. It got to"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "almost freezing. It was a hardcore shoot"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "to produce and put this out. But wow."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "C5, the new frontier of contact. Guys,"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "take a look at the trailer. And again,"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "it's available right now."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": ">> Through the vastness of space and time,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "touching the very edge of the universe,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "Dr. Greer and his C5 ambassadors"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "embarked on a journey. Their collective"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "enlightened consciousness."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": ">> Oh my god. not only created an"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "experience felt by the entire group but"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "also captured undeniable video evidence"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "of contact."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:31", "text": ">> See, look at that."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> Your consciousness and your belief"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "system"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "is deterministic as to whether or not"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "these civilizations want to make contact"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "with you."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "behind us."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> So that's an actual ET craft in the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "field."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> What is this?"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> There it is."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> A C5 expedition"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "with over 700 people from around the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "world to make peaceful contact with"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "extraterrestrial beings. How beautiful."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> That's what the C5 initiative is."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "The secrecy on this subject."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "They're happy for people to think there"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "are"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "ETSs or aliens out there."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "They really don't want people to know"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "This is the heart of the secrecy."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "See, this is really the unfolding of"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "this infinite conscious quantum"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "hologram."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "There's so many transdimensional objects"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "that are lighting up and coming on and"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "off out here. There it is. If you're a"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "sincere ambassador to the universe,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "you want to make contact with them"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "first."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "C5, the new frontier of contact. Again,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "the experience out there in the desert"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "with Dr. Steven Greer. We did it with"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "first off for three nights with over 500"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "people out there and people experienced"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "the phenomenon right before our eyes."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "Let me tell you, when you have 500 plus"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "people using this E5 protocol,"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "something's going to happen. And"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "unexpectedly, we were capturing UFOs"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "without even realizing it until we went"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "back to the editing of our footage and"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "seeing the UFOs. And in this"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "documentary, you're going to see the"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "expedition, the breakdown night by night"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "as we do the C5 protocol in the desert"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "for 15 days. And Dr. Greer breaks down"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "on how you can make contact yourself"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "because right now is the time for"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "contact. Again, the idea of"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "communicating and making contact is what"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "the CIA doesn't want you to know. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "not about the technology. It's about the"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "communication. Right. Again, uh the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "phenomenon that was captured by this"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "expedition. We were out there. There's"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "some footage of it right there. Man,"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "exciting stuff. Yeah. Also then it"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "breaks down with Steven with a handful"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "of people about 30 and he he breaks down"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "the whole timeline of how to use the"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "protocol using remote viewing C5 and he"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "actually does this experiment with the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "group of people in this documentary and"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "it it was amazing the people when you"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "all concentrate you can pull off pretty"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "much anything and there's some extreme"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "you know just a phenomenon written all"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "over this doco."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "Absolutely, Brent. It's exciting stuff."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "It's an insight to a private meeting and"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "uh you get to experience it in full"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "view. The link is in the description"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "below. Watch it tonight. Dr. Greer"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "presents C5, the new frontier of"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "contact. The link again is in the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "description below. Everybody be safe."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Watch these videos right now. Blake"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Cousins along with my brother Brandt."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "We'll see you next time."}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> Welcome back. Third phase of moon. We're"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "on location Mojave Desert and uh we're"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "talking with an eyewitness. We're just"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "doing a documentary with Michael Strat."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Michael, good seeing you. Good to see"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "you. Aerospace historian and uh we just"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "overheard"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> your your name. Never met you before."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": ">> Dean Blake Cousins. Nice to meet you."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> I own National Aircraft Services."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "National Aircraft Services, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "amazing. You know, we're just uh doing"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "this little impromptu interview with"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Michael Sch here"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> and then uh we heard you over talking"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> seeing some UFOs in the area."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> You see them all the time?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Not all the time, but I've seen them uh"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "five different times here."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Oh, this guy's a a veteran at UFOs."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "You're a lucky kind of guy."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> Well, right place, right time, I guess."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> That's right. So, what'd you see?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Edwards Air Force Base. How far is it?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "about uh what about 5 miles"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> 5 miles up the road you saw these UFOs"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "heading in that direction?"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Uh the last one that I saw uh actually"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "went to Edwards and did a vertical"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "descent into North Base."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Okay. So, can you describe the shape of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "the craft?"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> It was a V."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> A V. Okay. How far side? How far per"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "side on each part of the boomerang?"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> How far?"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> How what was the distance from the apex"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "to one of the arms?"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> I couldn't tell you. I'm not sure"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> they're 100 feet or"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Oh, no. Less than that. I would I would"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "say probably"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> 60"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> 60"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> 60 to 70 feet."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> And then five lights on the bottom."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> On the bottom."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> So there was one in the nose."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> And two on each wing."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> Interesting. Cuz this is exactly what"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "the Phoenix lights in 97 had talked"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "about as well."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> I saw that one too."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> You saw that one too?"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Yeah, I was there. I was there in"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Phoenix."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> So what what was your thoughts? Do you"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "think this is something otherworldly or"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "is it some secret government, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "budget program?"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> Apparently, it made this move."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> And tell me about this maneuver it made"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "that seem to the first one I saw was in"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "78."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "They're um just west of Palmdale, I"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "would say, at an altitude about 25,000"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "ft. There was three shiny objects"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "traveling same speed and then all of a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "sudden they all just changed position"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "simultaneously."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> One came up, another went down, other"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "one went around."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> And you're saying some of these you were"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "in pretty much close enough proximity"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that you would have heard some kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "indicator of propulsion from this"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "aircraft."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Every all the ones I've ever seen have"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "been absolutely silent. And I know"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "they're um I call them uh not ETSs,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "but visitors"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> because that's what they are."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> What do you"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> And I know for a fact that they exist."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> What do you think the"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "military-industrial complex over at"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Plant 42 is building?"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> I'm so jealous."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> We got all people. They're just uh"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Have you seen a UFO? You could. We'll"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "talk to you afterwards. No problem."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> What do you think? I've been in I've"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "been in aviation since 1972."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> So, I was born into it. My father was"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "with Douglas for 46. Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> I I know what I'm talking about. I was"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "with the Air Force for 20 years. Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Uh came out as a flight engineer"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "instructor with the 445th Military"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Airlift Wing out of Norton, San"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Bernardino."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> And in our travels, I've traveled all"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "over the world,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> We've seen them in flight. We've seen"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "them as we're standing on the ground."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> So, are are you a pilot yourself?"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> Yes, I'm a commercial pilot."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> So, we've uh we've spoken to many um"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "commercial airline pilots and one of uh"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the major problems is you wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "a place to report your sighting of of"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "UFO because the stigma behind it. Were"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "you ever instructed"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> on any kind of protocol if you came"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "across anything unusual in the sky while"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "you're piloting it where you would"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "report this uh phenomenon to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> in the military? You were milit military"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "had headquarters. Mack had a standing"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "uh directive that if we observed"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "anything out of the unusual in our"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "travels that we were to report it to the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "wing commander first and then shut up"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Have you ever heard of a man by the name"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "of Robert Bigalow Bigalow Aerospace?"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> Were you ever instructed to talk to him"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "about a report?"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> Never."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> All right. Go ahead, Michael. We have a"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Just as a review here, what what do you"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "think they're building and flying at Air"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Force Plan 42? What are they doing over"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "there? Plant, we know what they got the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "B-21. What else is being built there?"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> The B-21 is already obsolete."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> It's already obsolete"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> because the public already knows about"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "it, right, Ralph?"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> Ralph."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> Ralph, how's it going? Pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> good."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> My name is Blake Cousins. I'm with Third"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> What's your name?"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> Blake Cousins. Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> If if the B-21 is already obsolete, then"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "what's flying now to replace it?"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> I couldn't tell you."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> You couldn't tell me"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> because it's out there at uh Groom Lake."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> It's out in Groom Lake. Okay. H"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> Ralph, what do you know about all this?"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "You've seen any uh crazy stuff in the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "sky?"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> Well, I have. But uh when I was going"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "through OCS back in Quantico, Virginia,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "um the whole platoon was standing out in"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "front of the chahal"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "and they said, \"Hey, look, look at that"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "light.\" You know, and it looked like"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "there was a light over DC. It was just"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "darting around, you know, different"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "square patterns. And then it vanished"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "out into space. So I thought at the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "time, you know, well, these things could"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "be real, you know, if I've heard stories"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "about them and everything. And and then"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "later on, much later on, I'm standing"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "out in front of my hanger just right"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "over here,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "looking out to the northeast,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "and there's a little thing that looks"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "like a piece of trash floating around in"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "the air. That's the best way I can"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "describe it. And it was floating around."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "The wind was coming from the west going"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "east and this thing was going very"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "slowly to the west. So it was going"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "against the wind under its own power of"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "some sort. And uh"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "it kept uh kept on going, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "same deal really kind of indescribable"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "type object and just kept on going west"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "until it disappeared on the horizon. So"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "it was kind of weird to me. And then the"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "third one I saw was"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> these guys seen all kinds of UFOs. Go"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "ahead."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": ">> Third one I saw was down in Lancaster"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "and uh I was down the dog park of all"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "places and"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> watch"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "just looking south or east"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "and I saw these two lights"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "coming up. I thought, well, it's a"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "looking down towards Palmdale airport"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "there. And I thought was uh it was B be"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "B something taking off and cuz it was"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "big and you could see the two lights and"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "distinguished from each other and and"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "they kept getting closer and closer. I"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "couldn't see the airplane"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "and I couldn't hear any noise"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "and finally they passed overhead and I"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "couldn't hear anything and just see the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "two lights and they turned and went"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "north"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "and again I couldn't see couldn't hear"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "anything and uh and they disappeared. I"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "had this real sense of well-being after"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "they went went past, you know, I can't"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "describe that either."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> Kind of weird. Okay. So, do you two fine"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "gentlemen believe that the United States"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "military has in their own possession"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "extraterrestrial recovered craft? What"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "do you think?"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> Can you expand on that?"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> Do you think the government should come"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> classified? It's classified."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> And I'm I'm serious about that. I I know"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "two lock test pilots that were flying"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "for Lockheed at the time."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> Okay. And uh one of them was involved"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "with the F-17 at the time."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> And uh"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "there was a crash"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "just north west here of one of the 117s."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> And I know my friend was flying it. So I"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "called him. I said, \"Are you okay?\" He"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "says, \"I'm okay. Talk to you later."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Goodbye.\" Click. So anyway, uh he uh"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "he was in and out of Groom Lake all the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> So was he a pilot of an ARV, an Elliot"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "reproduction vehicle?"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> I couldn't tell you if that's true or"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "not. I've never seen him in one."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Do you think uh the government should"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "give us some disclosure or is this being"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "dis uh you know there's a lot of a lot"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "of uh technology within these craft that"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "might help humanity?"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> Yes, there is. And the thing is is that"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "my professional opinion is that the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "military is not going to disclose"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the technology that these craft actually"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "use to public entities. I'm talking, you"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "know, public companies,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> correct?"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> Corporations, stuff like that right now"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "besides the ones that already have it."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "So, what do you think? Are we alone?"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> No. No. I think there's lost stuff out"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "there that we don't know about and uh is"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "kept secret from us and it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "frustrating, you know."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> I mean, I I wish they"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> I have to go."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> Thanks, Mr. Weiss. Nice meeting you."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> See you later."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> You be safe. Appreciate you sharing your"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "story."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> Incredible. Yeah. A lot of people"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "talking about UFOs around here today."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> Yeah. That's because you see it all the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "time. It's just a constant thing out"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "here, huh?"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> Uh,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> what about this crash retrieval? How far"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "was this, uh, crash that you"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> I don't know exactly where the 117 went"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "down, but my buddy who was flying it,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "uh, he said he'd talk to me later, which"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "he did, you know, and we we discussed,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "uh, what essentially happened. He had a"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "computer failure."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Mhm. The 117 though has five different"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "computers for stability augmentation"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "and evidently three of them gave up the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "ghost at the same time."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> So, but that's"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "so that has nothing to do with UFOs."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Yeah, that's uh"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> but there's a lot of technology in the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "117 that"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": ">> still classified to this day."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely. The 117 was never"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> put to bed. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> It's still flying operational missions."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> Well, uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> they won't tell you that."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> You have a you have a camera, right?"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> So, you know, when you start seeing any"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "UFOs, these vector-shaped craft,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> you've met us now, so we look forward to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "seeing some amazing videos from you in"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "the future. This guy's pretty much a hot"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "spot around here."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": ">> Can you talk about what happened at"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Edwards North base complex when you saw"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the black boomerang descend? How did"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that h happen? Did it go in an"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "underground facility?"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "came out of the north."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> Went over. No sound."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": ">> Okay. Not I even thought it might be a"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "helicopter,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> but helicopters make sound."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> The blades do."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> Went over there. And I know where"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Edwards is."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> Cuz I was stationed there for a while."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> Went over, stopped, and went straight"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "And I know where they went into. They"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "went into North Base. Now, Edwards also"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "has a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "offsite"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "sort of a small base"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> that is north"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "northeast. There's no roads to it. You"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "can only fly into it."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> It may have gone there. Not sure."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Now, heading on the 14 north to get"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "here. Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> Northrup has two big billboards that"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "talk about the B-21. And it says it's"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "detectable until it's not. What do you"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "think they mean by that?"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> Oh, it it's only because of stealth. The"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "coatings they put on the skins and"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "everything uh make it virtually"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "the size of a sparrow,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> right? Okay. But what if it's not"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "specifically having to do with only"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "radar invisibility? What about visual"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> acuity?"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Yes, correct. You think that's what that"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "poster is referring to?"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> It's a possibility."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> Yeah. like electrochromatic panels"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "allowing for daytime stealth. Is that"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "what they're referring to?"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> I have no idea. Total invisibility."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Um hey, amazing stories. Hey, appreciate"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "just me and you. You We're going to"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "close this out. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> you guys keep discussing. Get the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "locations and uh we'll work on more of"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "this crash retrieval. Pretty amazing."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> Incredible testimony coming in right"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "here at Thirdphase Moon. And uh"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> you know, perfect timing with aerospace,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "his story, and Michael Strat. so we"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "could go over, you know, some of the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "questions that he had. You know, the the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "stories and people you meet on the road"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "are quite incredible. And uh we thank"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "you for joining us right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Phase of Moon. And if you've captured"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "anything amazing, submit it to us right"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "here. My email is in the description."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Blake Cousins. We'll see you next time."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there can give"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": ">> Serious questions that emit a growing"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "we knew this was going to happen,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "and the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "humanity"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "asymmetric disclosure. Check it out"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "along with other disclosure series in"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "the description below. Everybody watch"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "these other videos right now and if"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "you've captured anything amazing, don't"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "hesitate. Submit it to us right here at"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. My contact email is"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "in the description. Copy paste that link"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "of the phenomenon to my email and we'll"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "take a look. Everybody be safe. Blake"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Cousins. We'll see you next time."}]

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Look at this thing. We're actually"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "seeing some structure on this craft if"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "that's what it is. It looks massive. Is"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "there off in the distance? What is this,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "guys? Is this a mother ship that just"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "came out of the waters?"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Or it could be an illusion brand Fatam"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Orana? I highly doubt it. Uh, what I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "thinking we're looking at looks to be"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "authentic. It lasts for over a minute."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Uh, incredible footage. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "we're looking at any manipulation here."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Incredible video right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Phase of Moon. Like I said, we've got"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the phenomenon right now. Take a look at"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "All right, this just came into our Gmail"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "moments ago. We're sharing it. We're not"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "sitting on any information right here at"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Third Phase the Moon. When we receive"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "it, we put it out there to the public."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "And uh we're looking at something"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "incredible coming out of Wyoming. I"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "think this was just captured"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "two days ago. We're looking at something"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "that defies the laws of physics in my"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "opinion. Look at this cigar cylindrical"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "shaped object. We have some energy"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "source. It seems coming from the bottom"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "of it. This green glow. Is this some"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "kind of ion propulsion? Whatever it is,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "it seems to be very stationary in the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "sky just hovering as if it's under some"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "intelligence. You could almost see a"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "metallic sheen. Let's just take a look"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "at this a little bit longer. It lasts"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "for some time. All"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "right, let's get the sidebyside"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "comparison here. The original to the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "left. I blew up uh the image to the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "right. Again, this video lasts for uh"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "quite a while. Usually, you get these"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "videos that only last for a few moments."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "This one uh is lasting almost over a"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "minute. And uh the one to the right is"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the blown up one. Added some added some"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "brightness contrast. You can make out"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "some structure. Brent, what do you make"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of this? Wow, this is incredibly clear."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "We're looking at something incredible. I"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "don't see no propellers, but we do see"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "that light at the bottom. It's It's"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "glowing bright green. Could that be the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "propulsion? Like you said, Blake, and"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "this this thing's just moving steady"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "across the sky. It's not wobbling like a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "balloon. In my opinion, there's no CGI"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "or AI going on with this video. What"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "we're looking at is authentic. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "big question is, what is this craft"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "flying up there? What's its purpose over"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "there in Wyoming? That's that's a pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "interesting spot. There's a lot of train"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "out there and it just goes on forever."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Not a whole lot of population in a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "of these areas. And this was just"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "captured kind of in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "nowhere. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "I really like the footage. It's clear as"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "you say, Brent. The camera person"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "managed to keep their hands steady and"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "and lock down an amazing shot. The these"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "videos are going to be going down in"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "history of some of the clearest UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "video evidence that's been uh out in"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "2026. Dang, things are looking good."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Now, more videos just into third phase"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "moon. Let's take a look at this coming"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "from NASA. Uh, once again, are they ever"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "going to give us a straight answer? You"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "see this object move from right to left"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "across basically the horizon of Earth"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "above Earth's atmosphere in orbit. You"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "see this thing almost come to a stop."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "At first, I thought it could have been"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "space junk, but look it. Space junk just"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "doesn't uh stay stationary. And then"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "watch this. It It's It seems to want to"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "take off and move at a high rate of"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "speed there. Look at this."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "And then again, take taking off to the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "left at a rapid rate of speed. Let's uh"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "get a closeup of uh this object in the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "sky. Again, I want to get your thoughts"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "in this live premiere. People, you're"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "watching in watching from around the"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "world. We're broadcasting from the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Hollywood Hollywood Hills. Could you"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "tell us where you're watching from"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "around the world? And this is happening"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "above our planet by the ISS. Bren, look"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "at this thing. It just comes to a stop"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "and it seems that there's intelligence"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "behind it. Certainly does. Is this some"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "sort of otherworldly visitor? It's hard"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "to tell, but we're seeing something"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "straight out of NASA from the archives."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "And this thing just goes straight up"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "vertical"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and then just kind of pauses and then"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "look at this. It just takes off at a"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "high rate of speed. Guys, what's going"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "on now? [music] More videos. This one"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "coming out of Spain."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Right. I think this was uh released not"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "too long ago and we're sharing it once"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "again right here at Thirdphase Moon"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "because this is one of those standout"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "videos and we're getting a closer look"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "at this classic flying disc moving ever"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "so slightly under under some propulsion."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "We cannot see it. It goes behind the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "mountains there. Spain, it is a hot spot"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "for UFOs. And what the heck is it doing"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "out there? I don't know. But here once"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "again, you can see it off in the"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "distance. It comes to a stop. uh the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "typical flying saucer with this kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "subtle undulation as Bob Lozar says that"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "wobble effect. Yeah. Also he mentions"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the sports model and this looks exactly"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "uh like that type of craft, the classic"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "flying saucer just seemingly hovering on"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "its own accord with no means of"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "propulsion. Uh and it's just just"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "hovering over the mountains there. And"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "it has that classic look. It looks"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "metallic and it looks like it's flying"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "on its own accord. It doesn't look like"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "a, you know, a balloon. This is This"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "isn't balloons, people. This these are"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "real craft floating in the sky. We just"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "don't know where they're coming from."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "I really, once again, have to give props"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "to the person who shot it, keeping that"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "steady hand and keeping up with the"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "craft as it pans. Now, again, more"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "videos into Third Phase of Moon. Take a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "look at this."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "This video is coming out of Colombia."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "And again, Colombia is a hot spot for"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "UFOs. Broad daylight sighting. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "cameraman again, these people are"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "managing to capture some really good"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "videos and we're seeing it in tonight's"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "episode. Hit that big thumbs up. Broad"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "daylight here. Once again, looks to me"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "of the I [clears throat] don't know."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "It's not quite."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "It has these geometric shapes and angles"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "on this craft is definitely saucer"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "shape, but some uh different angles on"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "the bottom and top there, Brent."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Dang, that's a good closeup right there."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Yeah, if you're watching on your cell"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "phone, you could hit the emojis, too."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Smash that heart. Smash that 100%. It"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "helps the algorithm. If you're watching"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "at home, smash that thumbs up, too. It"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "really means a lot. Look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "It's just drifting. And there's all"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "these classic"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "shapes of UFOs and they somewhat have"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "some sort of resemblance of of them"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "being kind of the same built from some"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "sort of manufacturing something maybe"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "otherworldly. Again, we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "this craft flying over Colombia."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "Why is Colombia such a hot spot for"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "People might dismiss this as a balloon,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "but look at this. this flight pattern."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "No undulation whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "It's steady in the sky."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "If it were a balloon, it'd be wobbling"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "all over the place. This is rigid. It"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "has geometric shape. It's metallic. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "incredible, guys. Now, once again, the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "videos, they don't stop right here."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Third phase moon. I think this once"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "again is coming out of Colombia of some"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "phenomenon. Take a look at this. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "spotted by thousands of people not too"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "long ago with these lights, these Luna"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "lights as people say in on the ground"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "over there. Loo"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "the lights. The lights. And look at this"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "ring around"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "these series of unknown plasmic beams of"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "light. Guys, what's going on? Take a"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "look at all the evidence here. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "angles."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Here"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "we go. Let's get some close-ups. Look at"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "this crazy o aura around uh these lights"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "in the center. Amazing footage here."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Again, more angles from the same event."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "This isn't no AI people. This isn't no"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "CGI. This is the real phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "captured by the eyewitnesses on the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "ground."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Brett, what do you make of this uh ring,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "this halo effect around uh these series"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "of unknown UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Yeah, that's wild. They look like"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "pillars, light uh pillars floating in"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "the sky and it has this halo ring around"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "it. It's incredible. Here we go. I I"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "really like this shot. And the the ring"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "is is illuminated. It's really bright."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "And then the pillars in the center are"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "extraordinary. Where's What is this?"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Some sort of project uh some sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "holographic projection? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "But it's clearly up there and it was"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "witnessed by thousands of people and"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "people managed to pull out their camera"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "and film this event."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "What is it, guys?"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "So, as I'm looking at this greenish"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "plasmic ring around these pillars of"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "light, I'm just wondering what's the is"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "it causing a refraction of light in this"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "ring shape kind of like you see in a"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "moon bow when out at night. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "there's a bow around the moon and it's"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "some kind of cool phenomenon or is or is"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "this some kind of electrical charge in"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the sky around these pillars of light?"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "And once again, the multiple angles"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "coming in. It's fantastic."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Now, look, the it seems that they've"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "changed"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "in colors. The the pillars of light has"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "separated a little bit. Again, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "videos here. We're not repeating the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "video. This is just a whole bunch of"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "evidence coming in here. Sideby-side"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "comparisons of different shots. Again"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "guys, can you tell us what you think uh"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "the origin of these lights are and what"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "this plasmic green ring is around these"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "pillars of light? Look at these people"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "just in awe. Everybody's looking up."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "What a great night for them to"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "experience something like this."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "All right, we've got more videos right"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "here at Third Phase Moon. Take a look at"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Here"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "we go. This flying saucer just hanging"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "out. Broad daylight."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Everybody's around. It's not trying to"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "hide. I don't think these UFOs are"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "trying to hide anymore. And I like this"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "one a lot. You see the cars driving by."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "I got a feeling what's what we're"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "looking at. It's definitely up in the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "air. This isn't some kind of AI. Once"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "again, we're looking at a disc. What's"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "up with these flying saucers being"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "spotted? It seems like they're on the"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "rise right now, these sort of sightings."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "for it. Yeah. At one point it seemed"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "like the flying saucer or the disc was"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "uh hiding for almost a couple years, but"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "now it seems uh that they're not hiding"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "and they're showing themselves more"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "often. And now we're getting videos from"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "around the world that they're capturing"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "it. They're capturing the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Everybody talks about when they say UFO,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "they think the disc, the classic the"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "classic disc. And here we go again."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Another video of the phenomenon as uh"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "this craft slowly goes behind uh the"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "building over there. Yeah, indeed. This"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "is all real stuff, guys."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Once again, more footage into third"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "phase. Behold the phenomenon. Here we"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "And we're looking at this once again. I"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "I think these videos that have just come"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "into third phase moon are some of the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "greatest video evidence uh of 2026. And"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "we're looking at something that over"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "there in Argentina"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "is something to behold. We're uh we're"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "going to be keeping a close eye on this"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "one. Like I said, we've added some"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "brightness contrast and uh blow it up to"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "the right. You can see some structure to"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "this craft."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "When we first got the video, it was kind"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "of like this black silhouette and but"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "then when I started adding the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "brightness contrast, I'm like, dang, you"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "see the the craft, you see the"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "structure, the geometric shape. It's not"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "just a black silhouette. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "what I thought too. I thought it was"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "just kind of a a blank black slab, but"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "as soon as he added that brightness"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "contrast, you see that it's there's"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "actually structure within it and it it's"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "made of metal or whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "There's something weird. There's a"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "phenomenon going on in real time right"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "now. And then we got this video earlier"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "today. We're just blown away. We're"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "looking at craft that are hovering in"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "the sky showing no means of propulsion."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "The last one, that mother ship over the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "ocean. That thing's massive. And now"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "we're looking at this thing. I would say"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "probably about 30 to 40 feet. That's how"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "that's what it looks like to me. It"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "looks rather large. And it's up there in"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "the sky just slowly drifting."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "You know, I was thinking maybe it's a"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "SpaceX uh Starship. You know how Elon"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "launches his Starship and they have"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "these uh Raptor engines below, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "not seeing that. This I don't think this"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "is uh SpaceX or Starship. This is"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "something crazy. And uh again, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "seeing any kind of manipulation here."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "We're looking at something authentic in"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "my opinion. And uh again, what's up with"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "this green orb? not an ore, but this"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "plasmic energy coming down or on the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "bottom of this cylindrical metallic"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "object of unknown origin. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "mindblowing."}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "Yeah, I like the way the cameraman he he"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "pulls out, shows a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "distance, and then he gets a good"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "closeup. He he's really getting wrapping"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "the situation within real time, and he's"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "capturing it. He's got it dead on,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "locked on, and he gets this great"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "close-up right here. It's amazing."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Incredible stuff right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Phase Moon. And again, here the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "sidebyside comparison. Um, guys,"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "disclosure, it's in our hands. It's up"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "to us, the public. We're not going to"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "wait for the government. It's the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "people, the community that's going to"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "bring disclosure. And we've got four"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "documentaries that we're putting out for"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "free. Take a look at the description"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "below. All the links are there."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": ">> You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": ">> All we need is one to be accurate."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "[music] And this whole concept of UFO"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "crash retrieval non-existing completely"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "falls apart."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "that's like?"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "simulate an alien [music] attack on the"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "planet using these technologies. serious"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "questions that I admit a growing number"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": ">> How do you [music] set up a believable"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "false flag and an operations that looks"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "like it's alien when it isn't? [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "[music] where they're talking about"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "quote unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "They put it into [music] secrecy. They"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "deny deny and then they shut the people"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "up [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "and the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "humanity"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "asymmetric disclosure. Check it out"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "along with other disclosure series in"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the description below. Everybody watch"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "these other videos right now and if"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "you've captured anything amazing, don't"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "hesitate. Submit it to us right here at"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Thirdphase of Moon. My contact [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "email is in the description. Copy paste"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "that link of the phenomenon to my email"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "and we'll take [music] a look. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "be safe. Blake Cousins, we'll see you"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "next time."}]

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A"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "parachutist jumps out of an airplane,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "starts to film, taking some pictures"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "randomly on his descent downwards, and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "manages to capture something unknown."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "A few hours after his jump, he started"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "to look through his photos and noticed"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "these strange objects. This object that"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "was surrounding him. 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And"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "it looks to me that this craft, whatever"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "it is, has some kind of glass shield"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "within the center of it, surrounded some"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "by some kind of machinery here."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "These pictures are incredibly detailed."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "This is the other side of the craft. You"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "kind of see a blue sheen surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "metallic parts or some kind of possible"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "propulsion behind this unknown craft."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "But again, it doesn't look conventional"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "to me."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Let's pull up that one shot. Right there"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "it is. And uh this one is crazy. It"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "almost like it has a shield surrounded"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "by black metal components and it's just"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "up there pretty high up in the sky. I"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "imagine maybe 5 to 10,000 ft in"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "elevation, maybe a little less. But look"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "at this blue metallic sheen. This is"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "insane footage. We've got so many UFO"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "videos from around the world. Buckle up."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "my"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> right. Let's take a look at this. Are we"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "looking at something otherworldly? The"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "guy's out there smoking a stogy."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Let me tell you, when you're out there"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "at night,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "you look up in the sky, you might see"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "something strange. And we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "two strange objects, cylindrical"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "metallic"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "objects just hovering in the sky. They"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "seem that they have these port holes uh"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "with this luminosity coming out of all"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "these windows of this craft. It's hard"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "to tell the size of these two twin"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "objects in the sky, but they seem to be"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "going in opposite directions,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "but I don't think these are hot air"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "balloons"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "or any kind of drone that I'm aware of."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "Definitely cylindrical in nature. And"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "wow, this is kind of insane. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "like I said, the man went out to smoke a"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "cigarette."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Starts looking up in the sky and he sees"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "these two things."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "I like it where the smoke you could see"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "is in the front of these craft. That"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "would be kind of hard to fake. It looks"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "legitimate to me. Almost too good to be"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "true. But again, look at it. Look at"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "this. Everything seems to match up."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Guys, what's your thoughts on this?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Let's pull up that closeup one more time"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "before we get to the next video. And uh"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "wow, I've never seen anything quite like"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "this. The definitely definitely it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "cigar- shaped cylindrical craft. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "insane. Now, more videos into third"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "phase, guys. Watch this one."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Is this some kind of weather"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "geoengineering going on? This this cloud"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "kind of stands out like a sore thumb or"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "basically a square shaped craft with"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "geometric edges to it. I added some"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "brightness contrast. You can see the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "rigid lines."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Doesn't seem natural. Almost like a"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "glitch in the system. I love these kind"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "of weather phenomenons when people film"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "weird cloud formations. Again, we all"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "watch the movie. Nope. Is this some kind"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "of square shaped craft hidden within a"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "cloud? Camouflaged like a within the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "cloud."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Yeah. I like what he pulls up close on"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "this. And again, the brightness contrast"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "definitely could just be a random cloud"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "natural phenomenon. No doubt about it."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "But it sure looks weird. That's why"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "we're sharing it right here at"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Thirdphase Moon. Guys, I want to get"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "your thoughts. Do you think we have the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "capability to engineer the weather"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "or do you think that some of these"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "clouds are harnessing craft from within,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "camouflaged within the cloud itself?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "And definitely strange weather"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "phenomenon happening around the world."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Now, more stories right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Phase. Take a look at this one. Mobile"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Mark sent us this. He says he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "think of a better place to drop this"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "kind of video coming in from the ISS"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "quite some time ago, but I don't think I"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "remember seeing this footage. We're"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "going to get a closeup right there to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "the right of the ISS. Some kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "discshaped metallic flying saucer"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "appears on the right. You see it? Again,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I'm going to get some close-ups of this."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Extreme close-ups. I'm going to slow it"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "down a little bit so it could get a good"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "look. I I don't think this is any kind"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "of space junk here."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Again, it seems like it has purpose. It"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "definitely goes up straight up vertical,"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "not wavering from right to left."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "I think maybe NASA just cut the feed"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "noticing something"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "coming up on their live feed and it's"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "cut the camera. But look at this. Really"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "crystal clear. You see the shadows to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "the right and the gleaming of the sun to"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the uh left there right on the hole of"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "the craft."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "It's off at some distance. I would"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "imagine this thing's probably maybe"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "about 20 20 ft 40T in length. Definitely"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "enough to hold a couple occup big enough"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "to hold a couple occupants inside. Elon,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "tell us what's going on here. NASA, are"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "you ever going to give us a straight"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "answer? I highly doubt it. But guys,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "what's your thoughts? Something that's"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "ours or something otherworldly. Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "more videos into third phase. Watch this"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "one. Some people are saying it's the war"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "of the world."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Y'all see the Coca-Cola building there"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "and there's Georgia Tech. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "This was flying in the air."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "What the hell is this? And it's like a"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "pole going down, but it can't. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "impossible. That cannot be anything"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "that's that's high. Like erect. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Coca-Cola, honey. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "20 something floors."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "So that's in the sky. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Come on, Zoom. Don't film me now."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Oh no. What is this in the sky?"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "And of course when I zoom in."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Okay, I'm going to take a regular video"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "and then zoom it in when I get in the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "house. But you see Georgia Tech,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "something's flying over. But it looks"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "like something's hanging down from me"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "and it's lighting up right in my [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Okay, now."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "we all see this."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "What in the hell is that"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "over Georgia Tech? What can possibly be"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that high? Higher than the dorms."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "I'm going to go upstairs and see what"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "the hell this is. This don't make no"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "sense. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Now let my camera"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "What is this?"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Okay, let me"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "You finish."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Soon as you said,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> no. Where did it go?"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "What the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "I'm glad I recorded. I just came"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "upstairs and not a thing gone."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "What was that?"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "All right. So, uh, let's get into this."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "I did a little bit investigation, seeing"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "what was going on in that area of the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "city. I know she's kind of confused as"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "what she's seeing, but after doing a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "little bit more research, it seems that"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "whatever this craft is, isn't. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "kind of obscured by a little fog layer."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "You can't really see the pole that this"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "is standing on. But here's the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "technology in broad daylight. This, I"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "think, is definitely what we're looking"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "at. Some people are claiming this is a"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "UFO. It's kind of going viral. I just"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "wanted to let everybody know uh this is"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "what's going on in that region. But here"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "more footage of the bogasphere coming"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "out of Mexico. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Exciting stuff."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Incredible video. Now, there's some"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "interviews with the eyewitnesses that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "captured the boogers, the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Again, the more eyewitnesses coming"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "forward of this broad daylight sighting."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "It's okay. It's okay."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "You know,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Wow. Incredible footage of this metallic"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "sphere. It originated out of Bugga,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Colombia. Now it's making its way across"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "the world. Multiple sightings of this"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "metallic spherical object seemingly"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "defying the laws of physics. We don't"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "see any drone that is holding this by a"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "string or anything. This is being flown"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "under its own control with no means of"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "propulsion whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "They didn't think it was a balloon is"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "moving too uh rapid. They said"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "it definitely seems to have some"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "intelligence on its on its flight"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "patterns here. I love these broad"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "daylight sightings. What what's going on"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "with this phenomenon? The metallic"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "sphere being spotted all over the world,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "guys. I want to get your opinions."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "But again, no means a propulsion. Look"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "the way it just hung there for a while"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "and then just took off like"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "This phenomenon keeps getting more"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "mysterious by the day."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "And again, a good closeup of it."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Pulls back. No drone holding this thing"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "up. Whatever it is, this is flying under"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "its own"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "propulsion of some sort."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Can't see what the propulsion source is,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "but it's up there. Guys, more videos"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "into third phase. Buckle up."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "This orb was captured while someone was"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "on a train. I think this was in Spain"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "and manages to capture some kind of orb"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "floating over a crop. It goes for a"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "while. Just take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "All right, here's here's a pulled back"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "version. I don't see anything that is"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "holding this object up. It seems to be"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "spinning on its own. Just hovering maybe"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "about 3 to 4 feet above the crop there."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "And again, it seems to be just hanging"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "there. Is this maybe the beginning of a"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "crop circle? Possibly."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Some people might think this is some"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "kind of maybe device to scare off birds"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "from uh eating their crops. I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "exactly sure. Again, it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "mysterious. I It's an unidentified"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "flying object. I think it's flying."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Guys, what do you think? I It seems to"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "be pretty windy that day on the train."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "This thing isn't drifting with the wind."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "It's just hovering steady, stationary in"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "its spot. Just again, just feet off the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "ground."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Broad daylight sighting."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Like I said, we have so much UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "evidence that's coming in as of the past"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "few days. We're happy to share it with"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "you right here at Third Phase Moon."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "We've got a ton more left in this"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "episode. So, don't go anywhere. But"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "before we get to the next video, guys,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "let me know what do you think this is."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "All right, let's pull up the next video."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Just into third phase of moon, guys."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Take take a look."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "All right, this video coming out of"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Argentina. Two twin UFOs flying saucers"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "just hovering in the sky. Or could they"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "be drones? I We're going to get a"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "close-up look. See if we can see any"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "kind of propellers on this thing. I I"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "don't think so. What we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "something. Once again, two objects with"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "no means of propulsion seemingly define"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "the laws of physics."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "Pretty insane stuff. Now, let's"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "The video just keeps going for a little"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "while here. I like this one."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "The person's filming the area, showing"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the surroundings, the buildings in the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "foreground, in the background. Up in the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "sky, we have these two objects just"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "remaining stationary side by side in"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "perfect formation. All"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "right. See if we could manage to get a"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "closeup on these objects. And here we go"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "again. Not much going on with these"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "things. They just uh they're just"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "hanging up there. They seem to be"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "perfect flying disc in the sky. Two of"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Another broad daylight sighting. I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "digging these videos tonight, guys. What"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "do you think? Give us a big thumbs up."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "All right, we've got more videos. This"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "one is a vintage video coming in from an"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "eyewitness from from England. She stated"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "she noticed something amazing in the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "1970s. And here's an interview"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "with uh some testimony. Listen up."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": ">> I could see the occupants in it. There"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "were two people in there. These people,"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "they [music] had long golden hair, like"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "a page boy Bob, just like the old kings."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "They had a sort of a pearl neck jumper"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "affair, like a ski topsuit."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": ">> They had beautiful faces. I shall never"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "forget their faces as long as I live."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Whatever they had around their"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "[clears throat] heads, which was like a"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "transparent fishbowl, and they just"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "looked and I was absolutely paralytic"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "with fear. I couldn't move although my"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "mind was ticking over and they [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "looked so sympathetic. I was just"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "mesmerized for what seemed to be oh ages"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "what it could have only been seconds. I"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "just looked up and there's a gun after"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "in the sky. I looked around and I said"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "to my two boys, \"Where, can you see"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "anything? Can you see anything?\" And"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "they said, \"There it is, mom.\" And they"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "pointed [music] up and I watched it. It"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "was just like a little cotton wheel in"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the sky and it circled us three times"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "and then it just shut off. Well, when my"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "husband came home from the office, I was"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "locked in the house with [music] my"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "children under a big kitchen table that"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "we were using."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> Under the table. under the table. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "it's funny now when I look [music] back."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "You know, it sounds absolutely"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "ridiculous, but this is the truth. This"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "All right, guys. What do you think? Is"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "she legitimate? Her story comes across"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "as very believable. You could hear it in"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "her voice. She seems like she's not"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "trying to be deceitful. She says she"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "knows it sounds crazy, but it's true."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Man, what other encounters have people"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "had that they have not come forward?"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "This story is pretty amazing and there"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "was multiple eyewitnesses. I love these"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "vintage stories. What about you guys?"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Now, disclosure, we have a series of"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "documentaries, four of them, all"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "available for free on YouTube or Tuby."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "We're going to be supplying all the"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "original the the link so you could watch"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "the disclosure films for free. Here's a"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "sneak peek to asymmetric disclosure."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "says enough [music] is enough. Cut the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "money off. Bring these people in. Let's"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "go. This is not to be talked [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "about any further. And if you do,"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "something can happen."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": ">> All we need is one to be accurate."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "[music] And this whole concept of UFO"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "crash retrieval non-existing completely"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "falls apart."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "that's like?"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "simulate an alien [music] attack on the"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "planet using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": ">> Serious questions that emit a growing"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": ">> How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "flag and operations that [music] looks"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "like it's alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "So when it happens, they're not [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "shocked. They're not stunned. They can"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "say, \"Oh, we knew this was going to"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "happen.\""}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "unquote catastrophic [music] disclosure."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "They put it into secrecy, they deny"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "deny, and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "that. Is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": ">> Asymmetric Disclosure. Check it out"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "along with other disclosure series in"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "the description below. Everybody watch"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "these other videos right now. And if"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "you've captured anything amazing, don't"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "hesitate. Submit it to us right here at"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. My contact [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "email is in the description. Copy paste"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "that link of the phenomenon to my email"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "and we'll take a look. Everybody be"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "safe. Blake Cousins, we'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "time."}]

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And a number of years ago, I had"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "an opportunity to hold in my hand just"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "for a brief few seconds, and I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "sure what the significant was until"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "later, but I had in my hand a little"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "pies-shaped piece of element 115."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "And what one of the ways I had an"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "opportunity to to have and hold element"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "115 is because of a friendship."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "And back in November 1988, the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "announced existence of two classified"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "formerly classified programs."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "On the 11th and the 22nd of November,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "they released photos of the F-17 stealth"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "fighter and the other was the North"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Bremen B2 stealth bomber."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "And I uh they they showed the the B2"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "when they rolled it out, but the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "photograph they produced on the F-17 was"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "backlit. It used a telephoto lens from a"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "boom operator's position, and the the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "thing was compressed, so you couldn't"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "really tell what kind of swoop it had on"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "it. So, I called up my longtime friend"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "John Lear who lived in Las Vegas, and"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "he's the son of William Lair of Larjet"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "and a character. I called him up right"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "after Thanksgiving and he said, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "let's go let's go see if we can"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "photograph an F-17 because we knew they"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "were operating operating out of Tonaport"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "test range.\" So he said, \"Sure, come on"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "down.\" So the first week of full week of"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "January of ' 89, I flew into Las Vegas."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "I lived in Minnesota at the time, rented"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "a car, went and picked up John, and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "we're heading up US 95 heading towards"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "the town of Tonopah."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "We were about twothirds of the way to"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "the town of Tonapa. We're just past"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Scotty's Junction,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "which is an illegal it was a legal house"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "of prostitution that the federal"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "government took over and they closed it"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "because they ran it into the ground. I"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "don't know how you can do that because"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "unless the product's spa spoiled,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "but we were about 15 20 miles north of"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Scotty's junction and an F-17 flew"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "across the road at about 1500 feet in"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "elevation and at about a 45 degree angle"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "to the road. I almost crashed the car. I"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "mean, it was just it was just an"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "experience. Here I'm, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "seeing something that was top secret. So"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "we got into uh Tonapog, grabbed a quick"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "bite, jumped back in our car, headed"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "east on US6"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "and that's a goes coast to coast US6. We"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "do about 18 miles and there's a big sign"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that says Tonapot test range"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "and it's run by Sandia and a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "other stuff on it. So, we head down this"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "road. We go down 18 miles. And I have,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "you know, because I'm it was I'm retired"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "military. I have a military ID card that"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "can get on almost any base, but not"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "those that are in a restricted area. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "we drove down to the main gate. There"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "was a lot of activity. And so, we"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "decided to drive west along the fence"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "line. That's public lands. And this is"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "before digital cameras."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "So, we get we got all the way down"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "there. We got all set up and we're just"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "waiting. you can oversee the entire"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "complex from that distance. You know,"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "they're about 8 miles away. And we're"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "about 2 miles from the guard shack along"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "the fence line. And I looked to the"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "north and there's a black fuzzy ball"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "with a little red light underneath it"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and sorted a bluish white one with a"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "light underneath it. I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "that's got to be the F-17 with a with a"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "photo chase or safety chase.\" And this"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "is before digital cameras. I was"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "shooting with a Nikon. I can't remember"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "the model, but it was a shooting kod of"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "color print film, high quality fine"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "grain color and uh I would have it"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "processed at a photo mat if we get to"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Las Vegas in time. So, as this as this"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "uh fuzzy dot started getting closer, I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "up here. I have a Nikon telephotos, you"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "know, 70 to 200. I'm up there uh getting"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "ready to shoot it. As it's getting"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "closer and and it's filling up the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "viewfinder,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "I was like a 10year-old boy seeing a"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "naked woman for the first time. My whole"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "body was just vibrating. I was so"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "excited. And they only have 36"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "exposures, so I have to be very careful."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "It's not like today you just hold your"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "button and you, you know, shoot a"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "thousand frames without knowing it. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "I was very cautious what I was shooting"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "at. But I I got the whole airplane and I"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "was I was beside myself. Finally, they"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "it went past us. I said, \"John, let's"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "get out of here. Let's get back to Vegas"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "so we can get to uh get to a photo mat.\""}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "So, we packed our stuff, jumped in his"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "car, headed out uh went east on US6 to"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "the extraterrestrial highway, the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "northern terminus, which is at uh Warm"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Springs. headed down there and we uh"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "stopped in Rachel at the infamous little"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "alien in had another quick bite and we"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "knew we weren't going to make it back to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Las Vegas in time to go to a photo"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "madness and I was kind of irritated at"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "that but that was beside the point and"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "John had told me that when when we get"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "home to his place he has a new friend"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "coming over"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "uh just moved up here from Albuquerque"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "he used to work for Sandia and he's you"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "know waiting for his queue clearance to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "be upgraded. Q clearance is a top secret"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "clearance for civilians. So, whatever he"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "was going to work on was going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "elevated above just plain top secret."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "And we're there about 10 15 minutes."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "It's about 9:30 at night. I hear a knock"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "at the front door. John goes out,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "answers the door, walk he walks the the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "guy in, soft-spoken, nice looking young"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "looking guy, and he introduces his self"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "as"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Bob Lazar."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "I didn't know who Bob Lazar was at the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "time. And I told him what my dilemma"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "was. I have 36 or 37 exposures of the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "F-17 that no one has really seen the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "whole airplane"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and I I need to wait till tomorrow to go"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "to photomat uh to get the thing"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "processed. And those of you who are not"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "old enough to remember what a photomat"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "is, they were a little kiosk in the"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "middle of a parking lot of a shopping"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "center and this and they were Kod Kodak"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "colors, yellow and red. And then you"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "don't even get out of your car. You"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "just, you know, they hand you an"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "envelope, you put your name on it, you"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "rip the thing off, you put your film in"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "it and hand it, come back the next day,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "processed."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "So, uh, Bob came in, there's the three"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "of us there, and then we were just"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "talking some small talk, and then I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "mentioned to Bob that of my dilemma. I"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "have to wait to to find out if I have"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "anything that's good. I mean, I was"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "vibrating so hard"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "uh that I didn't know if I had anything"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "that was worth a darn. So he said, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "I have a C41 processing unit at my house"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "off of West Charleston.\""}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "He said, \"You what are you what are you"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "using that for?\" And I said, \"To keep"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "myself busy while I'm waiting for my"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "clearance, I do photo processing for"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "realers. They would do a shoot house,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "give me the film, I process it, charge"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "him x number of dollars. It's instant.\""}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "So, we jump in his car and we're about a"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "block"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "away from John Lear's house"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "and Bob stops and looks at me and he"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "said, \"I feel sorry for that dumb son"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": " Lear.\" I said, \"What do you mean"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "you feel sorry for him?\" He said, \"He's"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "from this world famous aviation family"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "and the dumb son of believes in"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "UFOs.\" I said, \"My god, you couldn't put"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "a gun to my head to convince me that"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "UFOs were real.\""}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Um, fast forward uh about a year, uh,"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "he's a silhouetted head uh, being"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "interviewed by George Nav on K Kas"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "channel 5 for channel 8, excuse me,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "talking about working at a place called"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "S4 and he was doing reverse engineering"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "of alien spacecraft. and I became"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "friends with Bob and one I had multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "trips out to Vegas. We'd go out to the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "fence line not not with Bob but with"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "during with Lear"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and it was it was just one of those one"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "of those incredible events. 20 some odd"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "years later I'm up at Bob's place up in"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Oregon and he has a photographic memory."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "I said, \"Do you remember what you told"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "me the day we met?\" He said, \"You mean"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "that I didn't believe in UFOs?\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "\"Yeah, that one.\" He said, \"Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "remember saying that.\" I said, \"You"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "couldn't put a gun to my head.\""}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "And so, u I think it was the the first"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "or second, it had maybe the the secondh"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "he was he was showing me stuff. He"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "building commercial grade fireworks in"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "his garage and he had this thing and it"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "about where the opening is on my"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "fingers. It was only about that big. I"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "said, \"What is it?\" said it's element"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "115. That's what powers the uh you know"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "the spacecraft. That's what gives it"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "anti-gravity."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "So I not not only did I did I meet a guy"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "work that was doing reverse engineering"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "on alien spacecraft. I actually had a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "chance just for a brief moment and at"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the time I didn't realize the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "significance of it. He handed me a a"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "chunk of a small chunk of element 115."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> What did it feel like?"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> It was heavy. It was like you know"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "holding"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "gold or or lead. It was you look at it"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "figure we know just a few ounces. He put"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "it in his hand and it I mean it really"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "had had some weight to it."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> What was the color?"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> Gray. Uh it was gray in color. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "again it I didn't realize the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "significance of the at the time."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> Did he say how the element 115 powered"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "the ET craft and did he say on how he"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "snuck it out?"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> No, I did I didn't ask at the time. I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "didn't I didn't re I didn't realize the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "sensitivity"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "and the how important that little piece"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "of element 115 was. I do know he did say"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "that's what powered the craft that"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "allowed it to"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "be shift gravity or do something with"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "gravity but that was that was it at the"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "time and I again I wish I wish I had"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "taken a picture of it. What did he say"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "about putting a gun to his head and"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "retracting his statement on the belief"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "of UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> And this I mean the 20 years later when"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "I asked him, I said, \"Well, that was my"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "true feelings.\" Uh when you asked me if"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "I remembered what I said and I knew I"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "knew exactly what you meant"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "he was affirm you couldn't put a gun to"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "his head and convince him that the UFOs"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "were real. I said I changed my stance on"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "that now. So, and he's he's just a"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "sweethearted of a guy. I mean, I asked"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "him when Goritch and the others were"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "coming forward, are you going to contact"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Congress and testify? He said, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "those those S sobs have been trashing my"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "name for the last 35 years. So, as far"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "as I'm concerned, they don't exist. You"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "know, this is Congress.\" and and the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "what you know the most the most"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "phenomenal thing and I didn't realize"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "realize that at the time I held in my"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "hand probably the most important element"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "since Einstein and those guys developed"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "uh some of the very rare uh"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "isotopes and stuff like that to create"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "bombs. This this little thing I had in"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "my hand allowed for interstellar travel."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "And I didn't I mean I wish I wish I had"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "had the forethought to have photographed"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "it, maybe to measure it. Uh but I"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "didn't."}]

[{"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase Moon. The"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "cousins brothers here. We've got a"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "special presentation for you tonight. We"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "came up with a theory a few weeks ago"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "with regards to us surfing there in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Hawaii and all the sand around the"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "world. Could it be possible that these"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "sand particles exist in the universe and"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "could surge into galaxies like a massive"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "cosmic tsunami? Well, Bren and I went"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "down the rabbit hole of science and came"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "up with a presentation that we want to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "share with you tonight. Again, it's all"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "a representation of our theory. It's not"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "happening. But we thought, hey, let's"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "just share a little project that my"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "brother and I went into a kind of a"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "great length in research to bring this"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "possibility. Even with the Atlas 3,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "people are speculating. What if there"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "were trillions of Atlas 3s heading our"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "way? Well, this is our kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "breakdown. Let us know if you enjoy"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "these little shorts and uh we're happy"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "to present it to you. Let us know in the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "comments. Now here, enjoy our"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "presentation of cosmic tsunami."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "The Atlas 3 comet, just one of three"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "known interstellar objects, was a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "terrifying reminder of what's [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "out there. Because those single comets"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "are just the precursors to something"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "worse, a force twice the size of our"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "galaxy. The cosmic tsunami."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Cosmic tsunami. The calm before the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "cosmic storm."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "We live in a deceptive bubble of calm."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "We measure our existence in days and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "years. But the universe operates on"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "scales of millions of years. Our"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "planetary home is not an island. It's a"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "small boat sailing a dark vast ocean."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "This ocean is the ought cloud, [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "the true edge of our solar system. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "a sphere of trillions of frozen"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "primordial objects. Think of this cloud"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "as the deep cold floor of the cosmic"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "ocean. The objects resting there aren't"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "sand. They are comets. Each one a cosmic"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "iceberg the size of a mountain 3 or 4"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "miles wide. They are dormant, harmless,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "and essentially invisible in the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "darkness. But what happens when a"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "gravitational earthquake on the cosmic"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "floor creates [music] a ripple that"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "grows into a wave? A wave that breaks"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "upon our solar system. We call this"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "event the comet shower or as we"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "visualize it, the cosmic tsunami."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "The formation of this tsunami begins"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "with a massive gravitational trigger"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "acting upon the fragile ought cloud."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "The most likely trigger is the close"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "passage of a wandering star through the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "outer reaches of the ought cloud. This"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "star's gravity [music] is the cosmic"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "equivalent of an underwater earthquake."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "It violently perturbs the orbits of"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "billions of those mile wide icy comets,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "sending them tumbling out of their"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "stable, distant paths. The tsunami"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "crest. Imagine a powerful ocean wave"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "cresting and breaking on a beach. As the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "wave crashes, it doesn't just consist of"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "water. It churns up trillions of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "granules of sand from the ocean floor,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "sending them [music] exploding into the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "air and onto the shore. The cosmic"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "tsunami is the same, only the scale is"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "astronomical. The water is [music] the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "sudden influx of gravity. The trillions"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "of sand particles are the trillions of"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "mile wide comets sent hurtling inward."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "The speed and [music] scale of this"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "initial pertubation are immense. But the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "resulting breaking of the wave, the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "actual arrival of [music] the comets is"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "spread out over millions of years. The"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "catastrophic blind spot, this is the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "most terrifying aspect of the cosmic"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "tsunami, its undetectability."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "the invisible threat. When the wave is"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "forming, [music] when those comets are"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "billions of miles away, on their long,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "slow plunge inward, they are utterly"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "invisible [music] to our current"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "technology. They are too far away to"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "reflect sufficient sunlight. They are"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "too cold to [music] exhibit the coma,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the brilliant visible, gaseous tail that"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "defines a comet. We have no idea of the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "tsunami [music] that could be awaiting"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "us. Astronomers would not detect the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "event until the comets [music] have"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "traveled for centuries and are already"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "within the inner solar system. The"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "moment [music] of truth. It is only when"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "these mountain-sized icebergs [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "cross the beach line approaching the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "warmth of the sun that they begin to"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "thaw. The ice sublimates, creating that"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "brilliant [music] cloud of gas and dust."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "This is the moment the sand particle"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "becomes a visible, brilliant, and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "imminent threat to our planet. At that"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "point, we don't have decades [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "of warning."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> We have mere years before these long"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "period comets become a danger."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "A sudden statistical increase [music] in"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "the number of these newly discovered"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "inbound comets would be the first sign"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "that the cosmic wave is finally"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "breaking."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> The scale of destruction and the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "aftermath. The impacts that occur during"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "a comet shower would not simply be"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "large. They would [music] be continuous"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "over a geological time scale. The comet"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "that struck Earth [music] 66 million"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "years ago, ending the age of the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "dinosaurs, was estimated to be only"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "about 10 kilome wide. A cosmic tsunami"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "would increase the risk of impacts from"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "objects [music] of this size by a factor"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "of up to 200 times lasting for a million"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "years or more. Sustained catastrophe."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "We are talking about a scenario of"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "constant global devastation, [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "repeated impact winters, global"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "firestorms, and acid oceans that would"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "prevent the Earth's biosphere from"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "recovering, wiping out life."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "While the sun and the major planets"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "would remain, the sustained bombardment"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "would essentially wipe out complex life"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "on any terrestrial planet in the inner"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "solar system, reducing the entire"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "ecosystem [music] to its most basic,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "resilient microbial forms. The search"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "for the wave, the cosmic tsunami, is a"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "powerful reminder of the destructive"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "forces [music] inherent in the Milky"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Way. Our best defense is advanced"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "vigilance. Next generation observatories"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "like the Ver Rubin Observatories LSST"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "are our new front lines. These powerful"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "surveys are designed to look deep and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "fast, searching for that statistical"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "anomaly, the sudden surge in the number"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "of newly appearing long period comets"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "that [music] would signal the start of"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the catastrophic wave. The cosmic"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "tsunami is not a science fiction plot."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "It is a scientifically plausible"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "scenario embedded in the nature of our"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "solar system. We sail on constantly"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "searching the dark horizon knowing that"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "somewhere out there a trillion particle"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "wave may already be heading our way."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Imagine"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the silence broken not by a single"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "[music] catastrophic impact but by the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "relentless growing hum of thousands then"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "millions of mile wide comets all"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "plunging inward. This isn't a single"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "wave."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "It's a tidal wave that doesn't stop."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Picture a star system bathed in the pale"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "[music] light of its distant Sunday."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Suddenly, the darkness beyond its"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "outermost planets begins to flicker with"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "innumerable distant streaks of light."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "These are not stars, but the leading"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "edge of the cosmic tsunami, a relentless"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "barrage of colossal ice and rock, each"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "chunk the size of a mountain. As this"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "wave rips through the outer solar"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "system, gas giants become pockmarked"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "with craters, their rings disrupted by"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the sheer volume of debris. Then the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "inner planets, worlds once teeming with"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "untold amounts of life, face the true"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "horror. [screaming] Impacts become an"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "hourly occurrence, then a constant"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "deafening roar. The sky, once blue,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "turns red with fire, then black with"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "dust. Oceans boil, atmospheres ignite."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "This isn't a momentary storm. It's a"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "million-year long apocalypse. An entire"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "solar system, once vibrant, is scoured"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "clean. Its life extinguished not by one"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "impact, but by the ceaseless,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "pulverizing force of a cosmic tsunami, a"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "wave of destruction so vast and"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "unstoppable. It leaves behind only"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "silence and the eternal cold dance of"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "broken worlds."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "[music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Third."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "You've got Blake and Brent Cousins, and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "we've got the latest UFO videos coming"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "in from around the world. We're happy to"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "be here. Give us a big thumbs up right"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "now. A son put up the video up on social"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "media. Said, \"My dad captured this on"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "his way to work.\" Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "base."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "There's a [ __ ] thing just floating"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "around here. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "All right, let's take a close look at"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "this metallic sphere just seemingly"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "defying the laws of physics. It's just"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "hovering there with no means of"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "propulsion. Broad daylight sighting. I"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "like this one. Yeah. Look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Blake. It's there right in the desert."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Just hovering about maybe 60 to 80 feet"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "in the air. It's just remaining"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "stationary. Again, these things are"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "being captured all over the world. And"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "now we're seeing it right here in the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "desert. We've got so many videos in this"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "episode. Like I said, it's good to be"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "back, guys. I want to get your thoughts"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "on this. And I'm digging it because what"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "we're here, what we're seeing here, in"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "my opinion, is legitimate. No AI or CGI,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "any kind of funny business. We're"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "looking at something legitimate as this"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "man is driving, doing his best as he can"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "to hold his hand steady to capture the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "phenomenon on video. Incredible stuff."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Now, like I said, we've got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "videos for you. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Solene Salineita."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Right,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "let's reroll this one. Coming out of"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Mexico, these guys at a dinner party on"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the balcony sees the phenomenon, the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "UFO. We're going to get a good closeup"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "of it as best as we can. And uh let me"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "tell you, it doesn't look anything"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "conventional. This thing looks like a"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "legitimate UFO. Once again, broad"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "daylight. Yeah, I like this video cuz we"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "have, you know, a mass amount of"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "witnesses. They all got their cameras"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "out and they're filming this thing. They"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "don't know what it is. I like this. This"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "is This is a stuff that we're looking"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "for right at third phase. Good job,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "guys."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Yeah, I got a feeling that there's more"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "videos of this exact event captured by"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "multiple people uh that day. Incredible"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "stuff. We've got so many videos that we"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "just got to move on to the next one."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Everybody take a look."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Right. Here are some steel frames of the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "actual video itself of this golden"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "metallic kind of silver shaped UFO."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Definitely. This one looks legitimate."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Once again, I like the video, but these"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "steels really give a this metallic"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "surface to it. It It shines off the off"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the sunlight."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Yeah, it's cool. We got videos and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "photographs here. We're getting We're"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "doing a little slow motion on this video"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "as we get a good close-up. Look at that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "There it is. The stills. We see kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "this orange, you know, some sort of"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "propulsion underneath this craft. And"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "like you said, Blake, you can see the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "silver. It it's glinting off the sun."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "And there it is on video. This is good"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "capture right here. Yeah, I really like"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "it because it it this object comes from"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "behind the tree. So, uh that would be"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "pretty hard to manipulate what we're"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "looking at. Whatever it is, it's up"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "there in the sky. And uh man, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "kind of similar to what Bob Lazard talks"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "about, the sports model, flying saucer."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Once again, these still images,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "everything seems to match up with the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "direction of the sun and the shadows and"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the glints of light on the edge of this"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "discshaped craft. And once again, look"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "at this thing traverse behind the trees."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Seems like it's off at some kind of a"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "distance. easily enough size to fit"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "maybe a couple little occupants in"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "there. Guys, what's your thoughts? Is"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "this one of ours or is this something"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "otherworldly, guys?"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "All right, more videos into third phase,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "guys. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "right, let's roll this once again. The"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "plasmic"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "orb of light."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "What the heck is this? Is this something"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "organic? Is Is it Is there any conscious"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "behind it? Is it living? Or is this some"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "kind of natural phenomenon? static"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "electricity. Some people might call it"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "ball lightning, but what I call it, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "a UFO. And uh millions of people have"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "seen this phenomenon. But I got to I I"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "really like this one. It lasts for quite"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "some time. The person manages to capture"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "a good closeup of this energy, this"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "plasmic"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "field of light that just seems to be, I"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "don't know, intelligent in in its way of"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "flight. Yeah. Look at this thing. Like,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "you know, some people might say this"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "could be some sort of flare, but what"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "we're looking at this seems this object"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "seems to be rising. That's what I like"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "about it. And what's the power behind"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "this uh these balls of energy, these"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "plasmic spherical"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "static balls, like you said, like ball"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "lightning, the phenomenon. We're looking"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "at it right again. We're going to roll"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "it. You can see it right above the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "hilltops there as it slows slowly rises"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "into the sky. And this thing's at quite"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "quite some distance. And there's some"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "size to this thing. It's rather large."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "And it's just seemingly rising slowly"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "into the sky. Pretty cool stuff right"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Yeah, I'm just kind of in awe of this"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "video. I really like when he gets this"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "closeup. And again, what what is the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "purpose of of these things? They're"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "being spotted everywhere. I'm just"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "wondering if it's hot to the touch. And"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "as far as the distance is concerned, I'd"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "have to say this is about maybe 10 to 15"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "ft in diameter. Somewhere around there."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "It's quite large. Again, would it be hot"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "to touch this thing is my question,"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "guys. What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "All right, more videos into Third Phase"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "of Moon. Guys, buckle up. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Your home and car insurance before July"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "6. You'll get a bonus 20% off your home"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "insurance. Stop paying too much. Call"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "API on 1350 and save today. With first"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "year only, not available online"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "is an authorized rep of a limited"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "product issuer. Consider the videos"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "before buying whether it's right for"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "you. By the way, I'm with you on the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> All right, here we go. Filmed near a"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "military base. No doubt. Take a look at"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "this disc."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Just trekking along in the sky."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "No blades, no engines,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "just moving as if it were"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "floating with the wind. But this thing"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "looks metallic. It has that discshaped"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "classic flying saucer look. And I like"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "the way the guy pulls in and manages to"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "get a really good close-up as we watch"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "this. Once again, it traverses behind"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "the power lines here. What I also like"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "is when he pulls back to give us a"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "little bit of perspective of the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "location and it goes behind the trees."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Uh really an amazing shot. Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "interesting. This is filmed near a"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "military base. Could it be one of ours?"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Some sort of reverse engineered craft"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "and they're doing some sort of test run"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "with this flight vehicle. It's hard to"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "tell, but this is a great closeup right"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "there. Gets a little out of focus and it"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "sharpens it up and boom, he he shows the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "area. That's how you do it, guys. If you"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "see a UFO, kind of show the surrounding"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "area, zoom in, get a good closeup, and"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "then back it up. Just it kind of gives"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "this whole authentic look because it is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "authentic. What we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "legitimate footage here."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Yeah, in my opinion, as you see,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "everything, the parallax, everything"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "seems to match up. He pulls out. You can"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "see that he was within his car when he"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "shot this. And uh he he was fast to move"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "and break out his camera and actually"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "have a steady hand. You know, some"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "people complain like, \"Hold the camera"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "steady or why don't you go run up to"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "it?\" Guys, you see what happens when you"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "see the phenomenon for yourself. It It's"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "not like this is pre-planned stuff. This"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "is a phenomenon that happens"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "instantaneously. It's in instantly when"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "you not not even expecting it. So, when"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "you're watching something, I'm sure it's"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "a little tough to keep your emotions in"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "check, but hey, look, really amazing."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Gives that feeling that what we're"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "looking at is actually legitimate"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "footage. And again, broad daylight,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "that's what we like here, right here at"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Third Phase of Moon are these broad"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "daylight sightings,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "not just dots in the sky. We're seeing"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "actual craft. And uh that's that's some"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "good stuff. Now, like I said, we've got"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "a lot of videos in this episode. Give us"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "that thumbs up big time. Share this link"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "on social media and watch this right"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "unidentified."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "I'vedentified"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "object."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Dang, this UFO is whacked."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "You know, at first I thought it could"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "have been maybe a light and there's a"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "distortion"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "with the camera being blurry and it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "creates this illusion, but I got a"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "feeling what we're looking at is a"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "spectrum of light and this is a crystal"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "clear shot."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "And the colors that are coming from this"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "object and the geometric patterns, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "I've never seen anything quite like"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "At this point, he's he's pulled back,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "but then he gets this closeup, which"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "just kind of blows you away when you see"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the detail of this craft. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "We're pulling up. Boom. Look at that."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "You're You're seeing"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "all these centrifugal circles"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "and it just kind of blends in. It looks"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "like like a fruit cut in half. It's It's"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "very strange. I've never seen anything"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "like this. And it just remains kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "steady in the sky. This is Like you"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "said, Blake, this is whack footage."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's get this close up again"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "because you almost see like a wheel."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> Almost like a horse carriage wheel. And"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "then look at this."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> This is wild. There's It's like a sun."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "It almost looks like it's an eye of raw."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Again, I don't know what we're looking"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "at here."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "And that's what UFOs are. They're"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "unidentified flying objects. And uh we"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "don't have the answers. We don't have"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "one in our garage. We haven't captured"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "one. Nobody's an expert on what these"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "things are. We're just speculating. But"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "people sent us the videos and we want to"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "share it to the world as fast as"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "possible. And we've got more videos"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "coming up in just a moment. But guys,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "have you ever seen anything like this? I"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "want to get your thoughts."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Something otherworldly, an atmospheric"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "phenomenon. This is uh wacky stuff. I"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "just still trying to wrap my head around"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "it. It It's definitely not a perfect"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "circle, but on the inside of it is see"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the outer circumference is a little"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "distorted, but when you look at it up"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "close, the the inner wheel of it, it"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "almost looks like the Ezekiel will if"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "you talk to Tim Burchett about some of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "those UFO sightings, he brings up that"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "analogy. Is this something biblical,"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "guys?"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Man, this is"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> I love our job going over this kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "crazy stuff. It boggles your mind. And"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "uh again, it's good to be back. Now, you"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "guys are here for more UFO videos,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "right? Okay. Well, let's roll the next"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "one right now."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "All right. I I guess we're going to get"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "a closeup here. You almost kind of see"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "the underbelly of this. Again, another"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "disc. This one's pretty dark, but you"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "see like a subtle"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "a black crevice underneath this craft."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Almost like almost a ventilation. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "don't know. This this one's a tricky"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "tricky to uh tell exactly what was"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "underneath it. But again, broad"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "daylight, the video quality is a little"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "poor. And again, like I was saying"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "earlier, you start seeing the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "phenomenon, you're going to start to"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "shake in your boots, especially if"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "you're looking at this up close in broad"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "daylight. But hey, there's some there's"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "some good data on this video."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": ">> Hey, look at that. It's just hovering"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "over the homes over there as it kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "just moves along. And then we get this"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "kind of this really good closeup."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": ">> And yeah, like you see definitely the"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "classic flying saucer. You see kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "the dome on top and this circle"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "underneath this black mass."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "And definitely whatever it's doing, we"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "don't see any means of propulsion. We"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "don't see any rotor blades. We're just"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "seeing your classic disc just hovering"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "there. What's keeping this thing up in"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "the sky?"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Again, I I also like the way the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "cameraman pans out, shows the"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "neighborhood so you could see the"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "surroundings of uh the environment where"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "this basically when you see a UFO, I"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "could consider it almost a miracle. So"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "when you're seeing this, you're in the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "presence of something,"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "maybe divine, not of this earth. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "something spiritual, maybe something"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "from another realm of non-existence that"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "we can even touch, but they come and"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "visit us. So you know, this is what a"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "field to be in. What a time to be alive."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "everything and everyone's talking about"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "the UFOs and you're not whack you're not"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "a whack job now saying that they're out"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "there because we've got all the evidence"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "and the best evidence is right here at"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Third Phase Moon. And before we get to"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "the trailer for one of the best"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "documentaries out there right now,"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure, it's available"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "for free. We we're putting out this"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "stuff for free so you could watch it,"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "learn something, gain some knowledge and"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "uh trust me, you will learn something in"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "our latest documentary, Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Disclosure. We're going to share the"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "trailer in just a second. But guys, if"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "you've captured anything amazing out"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "there, the phenomenon, don't hesitate."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "Upload that video to social media and"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "copy paste that link to my email. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "in the description below. So, don't"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "forget, contact us. the email, you can"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "contact us with a story, a video,"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "photographs, you name it. But like I"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "said, the disclosure series, we have"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "four documentaries that we came out this"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "year uh last year, but it's all new"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "information and all the free links are"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "below, so it could keep you busy for a"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "week. Now, take a look at the trailer of"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Asymmetric."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there. can give"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": ">> Serious questions tonight. A growing"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "we knew this was going to happen."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "and the president doesn't know about."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "That is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "Hey, hey, hey."}]

[{"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Welcome back to third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "You've got the cousins brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "we've got the greatest, craziest UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "videos just in. Let me tell you, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "going to be a wild ride. Buckle up,"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "I want to get your thoughts. Brent,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "what's yours?"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Wow, Blake, we got a big show tonight."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "We have some information coming in from"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "David Grush. He dropped some bombshells"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "today on the Megan Kelly show. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "outstanding. But before we get to that,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "what are we looking at here? Some some"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "sort of trans medium craft going in and"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "out of the water. Simply amazing. Look"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "at that. Now, let's get to today's"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "story. The David Grush and what he had"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "say on the Megan Kelly show. Listen up."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> There's a deeper program called the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "legacy program. Yeah. that has really"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "seems to have been trying to hide the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "most shocking pieces of what we know"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "from even the UAP task force. Um, we've"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "had Lou Alzando on this show and he"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "talked to us about some of what we'd"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "learned. This is years ago. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "was when we first launched the program"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "in 2020, but here he is as part of the"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "documentary"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "uh, Age of Disclosure speaking to what"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "this legacy program has uncovered. is"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "going to run the ST 54 here."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> All right, there's a big statement from"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Louzando. Apparently, we have the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "bodies. We've been hearing this for a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "long time now. Are we are we going to"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "get to see it? Is the government ever"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "going to release that? I'm not holding"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "my breath, but David Grush, he's he's a"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "little upset with what he saw with Age"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "to Disclosure, and he had some some kind"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "of big things to say about it about some"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "of the main players. They weren't giving"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "it up in their truthful statement."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "They're just kind of skirting behind it"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "and not giving up the real details."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Apparently, these guys were heading uh"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the the UFO department. So, listen to"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "what Grush had to say here again with"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Megan Kelly"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "on numerous occasions. I mean, that is"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "just stunning, David. to to like people"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "who don't follow this. He's saying they"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "found some sort of alien beings bodies"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "along with the crafts that the"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "government has had it for decades. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "happened multiple times and that they're"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "all the whole theory of the the entire"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "movie with all of these storied experts."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "These are not crackpots. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "they're crackpots, boy, they found"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "dozens of them who have been at the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "highest levels of our government um over"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "generations who are all saying, \"Yes,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "this has happened.\" And the reason that"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that they keep it secret from everyone"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "including they point out in the in the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "piece our own presidents over the over"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "time is what?"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Well, it depends on the time epoch in"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "which administration. Uh certainly there"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "were former secretaries of defense uh"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "and presidents that were briefed on this"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "matter. um it depended on their level of"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "trust that the you know the deep state"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "if you will the lifers and the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "governments uh had with those said"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "individuals and unfortunately this uh"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "subject has been a victim of a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "I'll call it uh domestic information"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "operations something I discussed"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "initially publicly in 2023 and there's"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "certainly been this game of thrones"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "activity with multiple factions of the"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "deep state uh in a bipartisan manner uh"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "the Republicans and the Democrats are"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "both guilty. Um, and even in a recent"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "previous administration, in the Obama"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "administration, there was certainly um"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "actions taken uh strategically uh to"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "help a particular uh presidential"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "candidate uh possibly if if this um"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "subject were to become normalized and"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "they got elected president. So, there's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "been a lot of gamesmanship and a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "uh I'll call it house of cards type type"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "activities in the past. But it is true"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "that a lot of people have been uh"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "withheld. I found it deeply disgusting"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "and shocking that even I was not fully"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "accessed into these activities and I did"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "have a congressionallymandated need to"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "know. I investigated this on behalf of"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the first Trump administration and some"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "of Trump's cabinet members and and"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Senator Rubio when he was sen, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "a senator now Secretary Rubio and um"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "providing my findings up the chain. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "was just very disturbed uh to find uh"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "how this was controlled. The"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "self-licking ice cream cone,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "unaccountable. Everybody owns a piece."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Nobody owns the outcome. And there's not"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "really a mob boss. The closest person we"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "got that uh I was aware of was"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "unfortunately now deceased Vice"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "President Dick Cheney."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> All right, there you go. We've been"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "saying this for decades now. Dick Cheney"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "basically knew everything with regards"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "to the crash retrievalss, the craft, the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "bodies, the debris, the triple threat."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "And now Dick Cheney is gone. He just"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "died about a month ago and maybe a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "little longer, but maybe the truth went"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "with him too as well. Uh Henry"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Kissinger, another one that probably"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "knew a lot of secrets, you know, all"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "taken to the grave. Uh Liz Cheney, she's"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "still around. She is a powerful woman. I"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "bet she has some hidden secrets that Mr."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Cheney told Liz during their, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "long years of marriage. I'm sure she has"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "insight to uh the phenomenon. Again, uh"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Grush is kind of a little upset. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "there's really, you know, I'm liking"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Grush. Grush is pretty much a guy that's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "kind of giving this the straight"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "straightforward answer. He's not afraid"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "to come forward and he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "criticizing everybody else that's kind"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "of, you know, passing the buck and not"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "really trying to get the the information"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "out and nobody's accountable. And that's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the problem in Washington right now. And"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "even the best like uh Paulina and and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Congressman Tim Burchett, they seem to"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "be stonewalled at every corner. They're"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "they're trying to break down the walls,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "but seems like another one comes up. And"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "that's just the way it is in in the UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "uh phenomena, the field, basically. It"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "seems like two steps, one step forward,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "two steps back. That's just way it goes."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "And Grush is uh again a little, you"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "know, he's upset. He He's really trying"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "to get disclosure. And nobody's"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "following them. Nobody wants to, you"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "know, knock blow the blow it all wide"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "open. Everybody seems to be in it for"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "some sort of reason. They're keeping it"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "close to the vest. All right, let's"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "listen to uh more of what David Grush"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "had to say to Megan Kelly,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> uh Darth Vader himself. Not shocking"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "that he was involved in this. And"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "essentially when he left in 2009, that"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "was the last time that these activities"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "really had central leadership."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> Yeah. because the film posits that you"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "know the the current and the last head"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "of CIA probably don't know but there's"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "like lower branches within the CIA that"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "have specific responsibilities and the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "career employees there probably do and"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "they don't look at the political"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "appointees brought in by a president as"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "someone to whom they need to disclose"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "anything they're like this guy's going"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "to be gone in you know a year two years"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "four at the most I'm not going to keep"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "disclosing closing this to person after"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "person. I'm keeping this very dark as my"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "predecessor did. And they all it also"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "posits that when it's super secret,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "they've been offloading the research to"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "private contractors and that way they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "don't have to include any of these"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "disclosures in response to foyer"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "requests made of the federal government"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "because it's been given to a private"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "entity. But that too leads to no"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "accountability and no no person over the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "life of you know 20 years who's got real"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "responsibility because companies get"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "sold, new people come in and then these"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "companies may just exploit the materials"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "for the latest technological advantage."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "you know, who knows like I don't know"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "some AI development or some fast speed"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "train development that a company may"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "have used the information to build a"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "commercial advantage with."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> That's totally true. you you've actually"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "accurately described how it is. Uh early"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "on the global war on terror, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the money that was initially given to"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "these companies was essentially"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "reallocated uh for overseas contingency"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "operations and these contractors"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "essentially uh started to do their own"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "thing if you will something called IRAD,"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "internal research and development. And"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "uh privately they continued certain"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "things that actually the government was"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "trying to cancel as it relates to the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "subject and they went off um and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "retrieved and exploited things"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "essentially on their own uh and only"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "loosely accountable back uh to their"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "government handlers. And it's it's funny"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "you mentioned the CIA. Um"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "naturally there's a lot of uh good men"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "and women that work there. Uh my wife"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "actually was a CIA officer and she also"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "served in the Air Force with me. Um but"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "uh Chairwoman Luna and the task force"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "and the committee staff uh certainly I"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "assisted in my other uh professional"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "capacity um helping Representative"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Burlson's office did send legal"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "interrogatives uh to several agencies"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "and private companies. CIA was one of"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "them um and curiously enough uh CIA"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "provided what I considered extremely"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "disrespectful response. They declined to"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "answer our interrogatives on this"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "matter, which is their participation in"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "crash retrieval operations, and just"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "referred us to the Pentagon's Arrow"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Office, which has a nebulous and a"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "concerning history in itself. And I just"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "find it very interesting that CIA uh did"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that. Now, I'm not saying John"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Rackcliffe or Michael Ellis, who's the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "acting general counsel and deputy"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "director, had a hand in that response."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Uh but they certainly are the leaders of"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "their organization. John Rackcliffe has"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "spoke positively on this issue"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "previously and I I would hope that John"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Rackcliffe was placed there uh by DNI"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Gabbard and the president to enact some"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "reforms on the CIA and unfortunately the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "CIA has a lot of skeletons in its"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "closets. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> yeah, that saying the least there David"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "again John Radcliffe the CIA they're"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "going to hold their secrets. They're not"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "going to just lay their cards out."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "That's the CIA is not in the business to"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "do that. uh they're taking care of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "operations"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "uh outside of the US borders. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "what they're supposed to do. If they're"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "kind of involved in the US borders, you"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "know that there's there's some"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "controversy there. They're supposed to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "be outside operations. But then again,"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "the CIA, uh they don't answer really to"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "anybody. They if they die, they die"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "without any mention. They're kind of on"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the fields kind of like the silent"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "phantoms as as kind of a guardians of"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the United States. But CIA definitely,"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "like you said, David, has a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "skeletons in their closet. And I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "the UFO phenomenon and the technology"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "behind it is on their top list of"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "keeping things secret. That's probably"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "what uh they're in the business for,"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "obviously. And David Rush, again,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "they're they're talking about this movie"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Age of Disclosure, and it seems like it"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "was just kind of the tip of the iceberg."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "everybody had the information, but"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "they're only giving basically 10% of the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "truth when they know 90% of it. Uh that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "seems to be the problem with what uh"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "David at Grush David Grush is what he's"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "coming across here and he's the insider."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "He knows what's kind of really going"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "down between these these people. So"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "again, David had a lot to say. He's got"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "some more right here. Some bomb"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "bombshell stuff coming up here. So, good"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "job, Megan, getting this interview from"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "David and"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> listen to some more on what he had to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "say."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Um, other things I know about that I"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "can't talk about that are conventional"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "national security issues, uh, but the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "crash retrieval issue, unfortunately, is"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "is certainly one of them. And they've,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "um, done a lot of concerning things."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> What's being alleged by you and many"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "others is that is that they have literal"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "skeletons in their closet or whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> they do,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> whatever's inside. an alien being. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "because here's it's it sounds crazy to"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "just throw it out there short form."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Sounds crazy, but it person after"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "person, distinguished scientist after uh"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "intel person is making the same claim,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "validating the stories about Roswell"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "telling other stories that have happened"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "at um it's it's many military facilities"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "with what appears to be a clear alien"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "craft coming overhead, looking almost"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "diamondlike in shape, being huge,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "sitting there, hovering, coming from"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "something like 80,000 ft and dropping"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "down then hovering in in a way that no"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "vehicle that we know of, right now could"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "possibly do. Nothing invented by man."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Um, here is a montage from the movie of"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "top US officials talking about how all"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "of this is relevant because it may pose"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "a serious national security threat. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "stop 42."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> Well, crash and retrievalss is basically"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "the number one right here. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "there's been a 113"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "uh crash and retrievalss recovered by"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the United States that we have in our"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "assets. Imagine that. 113"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "basically spacecraft. We don't know"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "where they're coming from. They're not"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "ours. They're not our adversaries. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "something of technology beyond our"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "imagination. And we have them within our"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "within our uh assets basically being"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "studied. And Rubio and everybody else,"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "they're basically stating that this is"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "true. But it seems like our our"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "government can't move it forward and"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "knock these doors down."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "That's the problem."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "But oh man, we just need that one"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "smoking gun, right? We just need one"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "spaceship. Maybe civilians pick it up"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "one of these days and get it out, get it"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "on film fast enough or the government"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "just can't scoop it up."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "But again, that's for another day down"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "the road. Could happen tomorrow, could"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "happen next year. Keeping fingers"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "crossed. Okay, here comes another one. A"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "big bombshell regarding a clap."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "unidentified object."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> Third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": ">> I I just want to play one more. Um here"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "we have former Navy pilot describing the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "UAP's defying extreme weather and"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "physics in SOP 45."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "And there's testimonial after"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "testimonial like that. David, that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that's not unique to have an experienced"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "fighter pilot like our our men and women"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "in the military have been quietly coming"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "forward and reporting on this for a long"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "time only to be told, \"Keep your mouth"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "shut.\""}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> No, that's true. And I I have Air Force"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "pilot friends of mine that have seen um"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "astounding things while on duty to"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "include uh glowing triangular craft uh"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "you know, hovering above other aircraft"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "cruising at you know 50,000 ft. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "did want to point out uh General"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Clapper, the former DNI in the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": ">> That's right, Megan. He said it right"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "there just a couple seconds ago. Keep"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "your mouth shut. And it seems like that"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "that's just the way it is with the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "military. You know, pilots, they don't"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "want to come forward. It's this ridicule"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "factor. Once they come out, they"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "basically get demoted, fired, and if"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "they keep opening their mouths, even"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "worse. Who knows? But uh it's"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "unfortunate. We But if you're out there,"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "hey, we're right here. Third phase mood."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Let's get the word out and just break it"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to the world. If you got any videos"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "smoking gun, you got to get it out fast."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "That's just the way it's going to work."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "That's the protocol. Don't keep it uh"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "hidden or try to monetize it. You just"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "need to share it with the world and and"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "set it free. Okay, here comes the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Clapper uh mind-blowing statement."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Listen,"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": ">> um I certainly applaud him for at least"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "speaking out in general. Um he goes on,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "I believe, I've only seen clips of Age"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "of Disclosure, not the whole thing. Um"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "where there was a program when he was"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "the director of national intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "uh where they were tracking these"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "vehicles over Area 51, of course, the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "famed uh classified test location. And"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "I'm a little bit disappointed as a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "fellow Air Force officer and certainly"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "General Clapper ra rose to the ranks as"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "three star general. Uh that's all he"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "said in the documentary that that was uh"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "a program he was aware of. Uh in fact uh"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "without being inappropriate I will say"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "that General Clapper was well aware of"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "the crash retrieval issue, managed the"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "crash retrieval issue and when he was"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "the DNI, USDI and DIA director, he"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "placed people in critical roles uh to"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "manage this issue. uh both publicly and"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "I'll just say not uh non-publicly as"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "well and I'll allow the audience uh"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "distill what I'm saying uh at the at the"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "risk of being inappropriate or going too"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "far with my uh discussion. So uh General"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Clapper, Stephanie Sullivan, other folks"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "in the IC that are well aware of this"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "issue that were in rooms discussing this"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "issue. Um I ask you to be uh greater"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "leaders on this. I should not be the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "only former uh military officer and"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "intelligence official uh that is uh"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "being completely candid with the"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "information that they were exposed to."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "So um perhaps"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> once again James Clapper understates"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "what he knows and what he's done."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> There it is. sounds like General Clapper"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "of, you know, he he ran the whole thing"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "and he's acting like he just knew a"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "little piece of it, but he was basically"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "the president of the department and he's"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "acting like uh yeah, he walked into"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "something and somebody gave a little"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "attention to it. Wow, that's pretty big"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "uh claims there, Gush. I I believe you."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Now, we need to hear from Clapper and"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "see what he has to say. Well, there it"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "is. Hey, Grush is uh stepping it out,"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "saying some words today and had to share"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "it right here at Third Phase."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": ">> The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there can give"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "since the '60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": ">> Serious questions that emit a growing"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "we knew this was going to happen,\""}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "humanity."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> Welcome back to third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "You've got the cousins brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "we've got the greatest, craziest UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "videos just in. Let me tell you, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "going to be a wild ride. Buckle up"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Keep it on. It's going to pop out of"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "I want to get your thoughts. Brent,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "what's yours?"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Yeah, let's roll it again. Let's look at"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "this thing. We're seeing something very"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "bright. You see that? It just [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "lights up just like a a Roman candle."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "This guy's getting a pretty good shot of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "this thing as it just kind of hovers."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "He makes a statement. He says his car"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "was running, but you could not hear a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "thing. This this was taken just earlier"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "last year, late [music] last year,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "excuse me, 2025 over Liverpool. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "more footage just in. This just happened"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "hours ago coming out of Missouri."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Wow. Look at that thing. We see an"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "explosion in the sky. This happened last"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "night at 6:15 p.m. in Missouri. It was"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "seen over multiple states and people"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "were in shock. This was captured by a"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "[music] ring cam. Let's roll it a few"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "more times."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "There was no launch of any SpaceX in"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that region. So definitely we're going"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "to rule that out. But you could see the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "intensity of light. It glows like the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "sun. It looks like daytime out there."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Could this be some sort of celestial"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "event or something otherworldly?"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "All right, we have a Paul Barrett new"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "music just came in and we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "playing that at the end of our show and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "we're looking forward to hearing that."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Paul Barrett rocks. And what else rocks?"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "We got new footage just in. Check this"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "All right, we had to mute the audio."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "There was a, you know, they're using a"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "lot of colorful language and there was"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "[music] some music playing in the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "background. But the best part is we're"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "looking at an intense UFO sighting."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "[music] Guys, what is this?"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "An array of lights that look like a"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "flying disc in the background. Could it"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "be some sort of building? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "These people seem in shock when you hear"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "their voices. Unfortunately, I had to"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "mute it, but they have no clue what this"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> All right, we've got some amazing videos"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "right here at Third Phase of Moon, like"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "I said. Now, take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "The next frame is zoomed in a little bit"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "more. So, you see it come down."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "It flies down there. It checks things"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "out"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "and then flies up"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "and then flies at full speed right past"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "my drone as I'm flying [music] towards"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it and you can't see what it is. So now"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "this is zoomed in of the field."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "You see this object come down."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "It like stops nearly, but it's still"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "it's like it's checking things out. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "actually routinely going and checking it"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "cuz like it was a bug but like way too"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "big to be a bug. And then boom,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "it flies past the drone at a speed that"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "I I can't really describe. So here's it"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "slow motion."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "It's coming down. So, the slow motion, I"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "think the only thing that I can tell"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "from this because the resolution now"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "zoomed in so close,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "you can't really see what it is. But you"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "can see it almost has like movement to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "it. But again, if it really was a bird,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "it wouldn't fly past the drone that"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "fast. I've seen birds while I'm out"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "there. I try to avoid them at all costs"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "because I I'm I'm there for uh you know"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "protecting the environment and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "conservation and stuff like that too."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "what is this thing?"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "So, I'm going to do a few maybe still"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "shots uh coming up of the uh object"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "flying past the drone, but again, it"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "just looks like a gray streak. It I"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "cannot really tell what it is. So, is"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "this my first recording of a UFO? I"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "don't know. You tell me. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "there's going to be a lot of trolls. I"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "know you're out there. Please comment"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "anyway and tell me it's a bug. Tell me"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "it's another drone. Tell me I'm faking"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "this with AI. Whatever. But that's not"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "the goal of my channel. My channel, this"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "is completely off off topic. My channel"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "is about wildlife and capturing what"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "happens when when you're not there. And"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "uh I didn't even know I recorded this"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "All right, that's some pretty good"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "footage. Whatever it is, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "unidentified. That's why we're sharing"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "it now. Now, new footage just in just a"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "couple days ago over Los Angeles. People"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "thought they saw some sort of uh some"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "lights and a possible missile. Look at"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "right. see that one the pretty much"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "brightest orb just kind of take off"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "right in front of those three orbs that"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "are just kind of continuously rising."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Oh, actually there's quite a few more. I"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I I'm counting five at the moment."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Interesting. Yeah, these guys are"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "getting a good shot. What is this? The"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "typical orbs."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "That one is booking. I've seen a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "SpaceX launches. I don't quite see the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "tail right in the beginning. It's just"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "It seems like just a bright orb that's"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "moving quite quite a bit faster than the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "other ones. Let's watch this a few more"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "times."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "unfortunately, I had [music] to mute the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "background because there's some music"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "and we don't need any copyright uh music"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "strikes here. So, we had to tone that"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "down. But, I'll give you a little"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "presence. So, what these guys were"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "excited. You could hear [music] them"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "kind of totally in shock and awe and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're they're they have no clue what"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're filming."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "right there going north Los Angeles."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "I think there were multiple sightings of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "this uh just that of a scene. So, I"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "might pull that up, bring it up for"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "tomorrow's episode. All right, we got"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "more footage just in to third phase."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Smash that thumbs up, guys. We're just"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "getting started here."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my. There"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "it is. Don't, bro. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my. There"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "it is. Don't Bro, I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> All right. Just a couple days ago, I"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "uploaded a video and we saw these these"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "array of lights moving from one point in"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the sky to the other within seconds."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Here's new video of the phenomenon again"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "kind of making their the rounds around"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "the world. Look at this. These things"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "are they're just streaking across"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "[music] the sky. Listen."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my. They're"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "good. Oh, bro. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "You can see him just he's trying to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "point out the origin of where these"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "lights are coming from. And there seems"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "to be no point of projection. Is there"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "something in the sky shooting down or"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "something from the land shooting into"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "the cloud layer?"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my good,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "bro. I can't make this up. Or could"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "these be craft just pure [music] energy"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "moving at immense speeds here?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my good,"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "bro. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Yeah, pretty amazing when we get these"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "kind of videos right here at third phase"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "of moon and they're basically matching"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "uh sources from different locations but"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "showcasing the the phenomenon the same"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "uh exact kind of a you know sighting"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "that you could describe with this kind"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "of detail. This is incredible. Again,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "this rules out AI or CGI, which people"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "claim that everything you see here on"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "this channel is AI hardly. Yeah, we make"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "mistakes, but all these videos that we"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "showcase tonight are 100% legit coming"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "in from the people, the real people."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Now, I wanted to give you a heads up"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "that Michael Soliv made this statement"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "at the National Press Clubs decades ago"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "and it's still relevant today. Let's"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "listen to this. And a new Paul Bear song"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "at the end of this episode. Can't wait."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "academy 1964 [music] until 1971"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and separated as a captain. In uh uh"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "March of 1967,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "I was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Base, Montana"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "um as a missile launch officer, Minute"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Man Missiles. Uh on an on a early"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "morning of uh March 16th, 1967,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "I got a call from my security guard,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "primary security guard upstairs. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "had about uh six, as I recall, uh flight"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "security uh airman upstairs. I was"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "downstairs 60 ft underground in a"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "capsule uh monitoring and uh controlling"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "10 uh nuclear tipped Minuteman missiles."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Uh I got a call that morning"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "uh that they were seeing strange lights"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "flying in the sky. Uh I I disregarded"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "that call. Uh told them to uh call me"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "when something more significant"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "happened. Um, I got another call uh"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "subsequent to that call and this time it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "was a more uh intense tone in the in the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "guard's uh voice is very clearly very"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "frightened. Um, he said there was a uh a"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "bright glowing red object hovering"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "outside the front gate. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "ovalshaped. Um, he had all the other"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "guards out there with their weapons"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "drawn. Right after that call, I woke up"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "my commander who was on a rest period."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "uh uh Fred Maywald, a retired colonel"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "now, uh and told him about the phone"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "calls. As I was telling him about the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "phone calls, my weapons started going"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "down uh one after the other. They went"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "into a no-go condition, what we call"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "no-go condition. They were unlaunchable."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Um [clears throat] we lost somewhere"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "between uh six and eight weapons that"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "morning. uh within minutes of having"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "received that second phone call of a UFO"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "hovering outside the front gate. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "uh again that morning we re after"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "reporting it to the uh command post uh"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "we we were informed that a similar very"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "similar incident happened at Echo"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Flight. Uh I was at Oscar Flight."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "uh they lost all 10 of their weapons in"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "under similar circumstances, very"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "similar circumstances where UFOs were"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "cited over the launch facilities."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Uh they had they had maintenance crews"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "and security crews out there that had"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "spent the night and they were reporting"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "UFOs over those sites. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and the commander of of that flight was"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Eric Carlson. Uh he's he uh also"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "separated as a captain and the deputy"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "commander was uh Walt uh Feele"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "uh retired as a lieutenant colonel. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "we have those witnesses uh that I just"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "mentioned the names I just mentioned are"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "uh have have spoken of this event before"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "and they will back up this story. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "also have documentation"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "uh that I received uh through FOA"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "requests from the Air Force uh outlining"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the the Echollight incident and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "including in in that documentation a"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "reference to UFOs. We have um TX's uh"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "covering this incident."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Uh and in one TX it it says uh the fact"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "that no apparent reason for the loss of"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "10 missiles can be readily identified is"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "caused for grave concern to this"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "headquarters."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Uh this was from SAC headquarters."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "[clears throat] So we've received we've"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "got those TXes. I've got about 12"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "witnesses that'll verify parts of this"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "story,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "including um"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "uh of a man who investigated the"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "incident afterwards for the Air Force."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "And you'll hear a little bit more about"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "that with from the next witness."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "um and also"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "another guard that uh witnessed a UFO in"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "that same time period and another"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "officer who retired a full colonel who"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "had other reports of UFOs"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "and siliary to that excuse"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "[clears throat] me I've got the complete"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "report on a Minot North Dakota incident"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "that was not Air Force Base North Dakota"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "which happened in August of 1966. 6 very"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "similar UFOs cited over uh uh missile"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "silos and also a UFO incident that was"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "that was investigated by the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "immediately after our incident within a"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "week. I'm willing to testify to the"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "truth of all these matters that I've"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "spoken about in front of Congress under"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "oath."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "What's your thoughts guys? Do you"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "believe in Michael Salah? Is he telling"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the truth? Was there ET involvement next"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "to nuclear bases, power plants, weapons,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "or is it one of one of ours or something"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "from some adversary, some other country"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "that's developed some sort of technology"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "that's trying to infiltrate [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "our defense systems? What What's your"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "thoughts, guys? You know, Michael Solah"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "has a lot to say and he's he's still out"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "there saying it [music] and it's pretty"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "exciting. I just wanted to give though"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "everybody a heads up. Paul Bear just"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "launched [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "a new song and it's incredible. We're"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "going to be playing it at the end of"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "this video and I I want you to stick"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "around to listen to it. And then right"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "now we're going to share a trailer for"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "our comic book series Battle to"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Disclosure. It's basically happening in"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "real time and this could be how"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "Disclosure rolls out. 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At the center is"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "President Donald Trump locked in a"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "deadly highstakes game against the"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "ruthless world dominating transnational"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "tyrant the trillionaire villain Hans"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Wolf Gang."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "The battle is joined by a legendary"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "alliance of disclosure champions. The"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "president's team is bolstered by Dr."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": ">> Steven Greer, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "Michael Schat, Jim Goodall, and [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Billy Carson. They join forces to engage"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "in a desperate struggle to save the"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "world, leading to the dramatic,"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "explosive conclusion. Book four,"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Endgame."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "This is a highstakes, deadly game. 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