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[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "[bell]"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "When I was around 16, uh maybe 17, um me"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "and my friend had gotten invited over to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "um a friend's house and it required that"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "we um use a vehicle. When we started"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "[music] to drive, my friend had started"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "to feel tired and so we had switched"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "drivers. After we had switched drivers,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "um everything went black for both me and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "her. We both believed that we were um"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "abducted. Uh the reason for this is"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "because [music] after this like blackout"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "or whatever it was,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "we had woken up in a completely"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "different town in the opposite direction"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "of where we were heading. Um we were in"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "her mother's vehicle. Um, and uh, we"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "were parked in a [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "car sales lot. So, we end up in a"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "completely different town, complete"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "opposite direction of where we're going."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Didn't make it to our friend's house, as"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "we found out later. I just remember"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "waking up"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "not knowing what in the heck had had"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "just happened. Um, my friend, she was"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "laying back asleep still. And both of us"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "for some reason had our um our our seats"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "um all the way completely back. The"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "vehicle was dead. We were both also so"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "groggy. We had these crazy massive"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "headaches. When we got back, her mother"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "had said that we just kind of looked at"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "her"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "and she was angry because we we had"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "taken her car and not returned. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "she said that she was yelling at us and"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "all we did was"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "look at her with dead expressions on our"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "face."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Chris Ramsay and today we are going to"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "be starting a very special journey"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "together. You see, recently there was an"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "auction, an auction that I took part in"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "that I kind of remained silent about"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "because the contents of the auction were"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "incredibly sensitive. They featured"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "hundreds of original photos of flying"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "saucers. They featured videos that have"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "never been seen by the public. And they"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "even featured a yearbook from the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Roswell Air Force Base [music] in 1947."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "All of which were seemingly previously"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "destroyed. Well, all except one in the"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Smithsonian and one more."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Needless to say, I took part in this"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "auction and I've"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "I've collected quite a few things. All"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "in the name of science, [music] in the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "name of disclosure, and in the name of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "digging through some really interesting"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "stories. And we begin this journey by"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "looking at some photos. The photos that"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "will be featured today are the photos"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "taken in 1980"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "by none other than William Herman,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "otherwise known as Bill Herman."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "And I have in my hand these photos for"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "you now."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "in North Charleston, South Carolina, 4th"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "of April, 1980"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "between 5:30 and 6:00 p.m. taken by"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "William J. Herman. Now, this collection"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "of photos on auction were from the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "collection of UFO researcher Chris"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Wyatt. And the photos were actually from"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Wendell Stevens, Colonel Wendell"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Stevens. Now, you might have heard that"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "name before. He is indeed the author of"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "many books that I've used as references"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "or B-rolls or even as today"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "readthroughs. Uh he was an incredible"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "researcher that put together just a"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "compendium of UFO contact cases ranging"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "anywhere from the midentury all the way"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "up into the late8s. Well, Colonel"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Stevens had amassed an incredible"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "photographic collection of UFOs given to"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "him by witnesses from all around the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "world, all different parts of this"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "planet. And folks, we've collected so"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "many of them and we are going to share"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "them with you one video at a time as we"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "run through this series of film"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "photographs that were taken by"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "witnesses. This is very exciting for me."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Um, these photos are they might be of"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "real alien"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "crafts. And when you hear the stories"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "associated with these photos, you might"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "find yourself also convinced of that"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "fact. Leave a like, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "before we get into anything else, a"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "quick word from today's sponsors. Most"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "people think privacy is something you"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "give up by accident, like you clicked on"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the wrong button or link or accepted the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "wrong cookie, signed up for the wrong"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "thing. But the truth is, you don't opt"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "in. It just happens."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "There's an entire industry built around"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "quietly collecting pieces of who you"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "are. Your name, your address, your"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "habits, your interests, bundled together"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "and sold in the background by companies"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "called data brokers. You never see them."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "You never talk to them, but they know a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "lot about you. And that's why I use"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Incogn. They go after those brokers"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "directly and force them to delete your"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "personal data. Not just one company,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "dozens of them. And they handle all the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "legal requests and follow-ups that most"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "people don't even know how to start."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "When you see the report of who had your"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "information, it changes how you think"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "about privacy. [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "And this isn't about being paranoid."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "It's about taking back a little control"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "in a system designed to strip it away."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Go to incogn.com/eraf52"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "and use code area52 to get 60% off the"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "annual plan."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "All right, folks. We've paid the bills."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Let's get into reading from UFO contact"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "from Reticulum. This is by Colonel"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Wendell Stevens. and the photos that we"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "have today."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "I gotta take I gotta be careful with"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "these photos. I'm actually going to put"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "these back here before I projectile, you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "know, spit all over these and ruin them"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "forever. These are incredible. Like,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "look at these. These are these might be"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "real UFOs. I mean, they are real UFOs"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "by the very definition, but they might"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "be alien. Incredible."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "What's really interesting as well is"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "that there have been sightings"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "of these exact same craft. Now, I know a"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "flying saucer is a flying saucer to many"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "of you, but there are certain physical"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "attributes"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "that u that seem to"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "um at least look like they might belong"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "to, you know, the same vehicles seen by"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "other witnesses and all across the world"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "once again. But all ranging roughly in"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the same time period from the sort of"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "70s to the 80s. These flying these types"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "of flying saucers seem to crop up quite"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "a bit."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "All right. So, Colonel Wendell Stevens"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "uh had a few books on the contact from"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Reticulum case, which was Bill Herman's"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "case, focused primarily on Bill's case."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Uh he originally put one out and while"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "he put this out, the investigation was"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "actually ongoing. So, this was something"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "that was still happening. There were"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "more witnesses. there were more uh"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "sightings and there were more photos to"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "be released. And so what we're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "be doing today is we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "reading from the updated version of"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "contact from Reticulum where there is"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "more information regarding"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "contact with the beings that Bill Herman"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "had but also kind of summarizes"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "everything that happened in the previous"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "book."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "The book opens with a quote that says,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "\"Man is now beginning to see himself as"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "not alone in the universe nor master of"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "it, but merely as the local example of"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "advanced life.\" By Dr. Hans Mark, NASA"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "as researchers."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "I do want to begin this read through by"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "looking at the introduction because it"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "does summarize a little bit of the first"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "book here. The full accounts of the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "initial sightings of strange circular"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "aircraft uh shiny by day and radiant by"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "night operating in the skies of the"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "neighborhood around North Charleston,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "South Carolina and subsequent abductions"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "aboard the same craft of William J."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Herman of that city were reported in"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "detail in the original volume of UFO"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "contact for reticulum published in 1981."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "The report was curtailed at the time and"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "published in the midst of the contacts"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "still going on."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Bill Herman had become disenchanted with"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the then developing phenomenon for two"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "main reasons. His Southern Baptist"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "church and his wife, a devout Christian,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "thought that since these beings didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "seem to have a Jesus Christ,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "I don't know why I put emphasis on the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Jesus there. Uh these contacts must be"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "the work of the devil. And they went to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "great lengths to persuade him to avoid"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the alien creatures and all their"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "attempts at contact."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Now, to many of you, this might ring"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "eerily similar to the case of Chris"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Bledsoe, also Baptist, I believe, if not"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Baptist. No, not Baptist. He was"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "um what was he? Pentecostal, also just"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "incredibly religious in in North"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Carolina, a very an also religious part"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "of the country. Uh faced some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "same backlash when he came out years ago"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "through that MUON documentary. His"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "neighbors and friends began to shun and"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "avoid him because of his strange"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "accounts of these contacts that he was"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "relating. He received very threatening"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "telephone calls. The lug nuts on the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "wheels of his old automobile were"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "deliberately loosened. His car was run"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "off the road more than once and was"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "finally smashed."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "His home was assaulted and finally"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "burned to the ground."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "These were the acts of his fellow"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "humans, not ET visitors."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "The alien extraterrestrial beings aboard"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "the strange spacecraft told their"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "witness/abductee"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Bill Herman that they came from a double"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "sun system in [music] the group stars"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that we call reticulum."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "They even went so far as to say that our"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "astronomers had identified these twin"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "suns as zeta 1 and zeta 2 reticuli. If"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "reticulum or reticuli rings a bell,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "obviously this comes up quite a bit, not"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "only with the story of Bob Lazar, Betty"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "and Barney Hill, but also as recently as"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Sergeant Firstclass Jeremy Weekes that"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "we had on the podcast and said [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "sort of beware of those coming from"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Reticulum. Now, are those beings just"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "scoping us in some way? Who do we"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "believe? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "These extraterrestrials were highly"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "intelligent and well-informed. They"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "possessed marvelous instruments and"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "devices aboard their ships and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "demonstrated unbelievably superior"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "technologies."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "They performed feats of manifestation,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "abortation, and communications and"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "exhibited control of their ship"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "in-flight demonstrations [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "completely beyond anything we ever"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "dreamed of."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "They returned again and again to that"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "north Charleston area and they opened"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "several means of direct contact with the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "witness. In the middle of all this, Bill"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Herman was fired from his job because of"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the unwelcome attention he was getting"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and he took a new job out of the local"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "area. He began sharing rides to work"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "with Tony Martin and even then his more"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "than weekly sightings of the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "extraterrestrial flight demonstrations"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "overhead continued and Tony Martin"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "became a witness also."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "And then Tony Martin seemed to come to"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "the attention of the extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "himself. Well, folks, the plot thickens."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Tony was a handsome, intellectual black"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "man married to his beautiful white wife,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Molina."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "And they had a lovely baby at the time."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "This was strangely reminiscent of the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "well-known Barney and Betty Hill UFO"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "abduction in New Hampshire 1961. And"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "these extraterrestrials even looked the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "same as those described by the Hills."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "But more important, these ETs told Bill"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Herman on one occasion aboard their"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "craft that they had made direct contact"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "with a couple 18 years ago in another"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "part of this land, which got too much"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "attention to suit them. 18 years back"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "from 1979 would have been well, 1961."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Molina began seeing the strangely"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "luminous flying object over their home"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "in Somerville and beyond the backyard"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "there. It occasionally appeared and"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "followed Tony in his car just like it"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "had been doing with Bill Herman and then"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "with Bill Herman and Tony Martin"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "together. Tony began to observe it in"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "flight when he was alone too and later"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "he learned to sense the ET presence in"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the vicinity."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "One time a slender prismatic object of"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "unusual material from the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "extraterrestrials was aorted directly"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "into his locked automobile parked in"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "full view in front of the house. But"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "these people were not the only ones"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "seeing the unusual flying objects in the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Charleston skies. Literally scores of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "local residents were reporting them, and"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "this was happening quite frequently."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Bill Herman snapped four sets [music] of"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "color photographs of four different"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "versions of the ships used by the ETSs."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Three of these sets of pictures were"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "described and shown, two in color in the"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "original booklength report on this case."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "What Bill Herman did not know, whose"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "case was still unknown to this man, Dr."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Carl [music] Harper, also of North"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Charleston, had taken a series of color"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "photographs of the same style craft as"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Bill Herman photographed in his first"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "pictorial capture of the ET vehicle."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "[music] And Dr. Harper snapped his"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "pictures in the Ashley River Dorchester"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Road area, too. The same vicinity as in"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "many of Bill Herman's sightings. and"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Harper took his pictures about the same"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "time as Herman's sightings of this type"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "of craft were increasing in the area."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "The extraterrestrials began to transmit"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "something in writing to Herman in a"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "completely unknown symbol form."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Sometimes it involved complex equations,"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "diagrams, and also sketches equally"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "unfamiliar to Bill Herman. At times they"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "would explain these communications as"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "they were being transmitted, and at"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "other times they told him that he would"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "be able to understand them at some time"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "in the future. after the occurrence of a"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "future event that would trigger his"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "memory to previously in inculcated"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "inculsated"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "data instilled in his subconscious by a"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "device aboard the ET ship."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Huh."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Automatic writing. That's an interesting"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "That's an interesting thing."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "never knew what to make of automatic"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "writing to be quite frank"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "because it's mostly just gibberish,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "you know. Um, even some channelers,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "namely Angela Ford, who was here on the"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "podcast, she would do this sort of"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "automatic writing technique, but it was"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "she wasn't writing anything. It was kind"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "of just like more of a a tool to help"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "channel whatever entity or guide that"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "she was channeling at the time."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "uh seems a little strange."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "But again, you know, this is a gentleman"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "who uh was apparently a staunch sort of"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "believer in in Jesus and and religion"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "and very much against the idea of aliens"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and flying saucers at the time. feminine"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "to go from that to communicating with"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "alien beings. You would think that if"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "you did if you were trying to hoax"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "something or gain attention in some"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "matter that you would perhaps do so in a"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "way that seemed like you were"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "getting messages from God or an angel or"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "something like that, but not little"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "beings in orange jumpsuits. So, that"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "part really stands out. And we'll get"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "into the similarities between the beings"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "that Bill had observed and the beings"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "that uh Travis Walton had actually"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "observed. And not only that, I did look"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "for maybe I'll find it, but I did look"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "for Dr. Carl Harper's photos online. I"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "couldn't seem to find him. There is a"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Carl Harper uh that is a Muon"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "investigator. I'm not sure if he's still"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "around. Uh but yeah, I had a hard time"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "locating those photos, but I would love"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "to see them. and maybe I'll splice them"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "in if I do find them. Curiously, we've"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "had many illegal intercepts of mail."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "Private mail sent first class in the US"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Postal Service in this case, and one of"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "these included a lengthy verbal"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "description of a scientific device and"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "some instructions and cautions for its"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "use. The extraterrestrial communicators"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "used the stilted universal words stored"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "in their computer translator, which Bill"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Herman had now become familiar with and"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "understood fairly well to describe the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "steps and procedures. This was one of"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "those intercepts, and it was quote"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "unquote lost in the mail for many days."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "Then finally, I received the missing"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "letter in my mail delivery. It looked"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "like it was addressed to William Herman."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "All right. But it had a wrong postmark"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "date, was in the wrong-sized envelope,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "and had four of the original 11 pages"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "missing. They had been removed by"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "somebody on route to me. There were also"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "a number of red ink notations in the"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "abbreviated jargon of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "analysts passing the material from one"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "to another. Why it was sent on to me, I"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "will never know."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "When I took a magnifying glass and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "examined the cover address in blue ink"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "with a ballpoint pen, typical of the one"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Bill Herman used, I could see that this"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "address was not applied in a smooth flow"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "as Bill wrote, but with many starts and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "stops, as if by tracing over a bright"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "light. When I called Bill about this, he"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "said that when it left his hand, there"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "were 11 pages. Another envelope of a"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "different size, a different postmark"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "date, no red marks on any part of it."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Another intercepted letter contained a"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "transcript of a discussion aboard the ET"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "ship during yet another abduction of the"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "system of propulsion and went into"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "detail on a future event and a mission"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "for Bill Herman to carry out as their"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "and Bahhati on Earth."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "When this much delayed letter arrived,"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "it had United Nations postage stamps on"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "the envelope, a New York postmark, a"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "different date from the letter inside,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "[music] and had one intelligence"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "analyst's note in red ink to another who"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "used blue ink. And I received the Xerox"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "copied analyst's copy instead of the"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "original, as was usually the case. I"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "wonder what those analysts thought when"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "they discovered they had sent me the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "wrong copy with all their notes on it."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Well, that's interesting."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "I wonder if we get to see some of those."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "The self-proclaimed reticulent occupants"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "of these discshaped craft told Bill"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Herman that they had lost ships of"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "theirs over our land many years ago. At"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "first, they thought we had used a beam"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "weapon on them in a hostile action. But"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "when they observed the quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "weapon, still firing the beam in a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "continual sweep pattern uh day and"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "night, they concluded that it was not an"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "overtly hostile attack on them and"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "decided against retaliation. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "is really interesting. If we think about"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "radar systems and the way that they"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "function, they are kind of continuously"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "beaming and that might be a way to bring"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "down these crafts. According to the"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "crash at Aztec, even some speculate the"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "crash at Roswell coupled with perhaps"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the electric storm uh might have been,"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "you know, for lack of a better term, the"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "perfect storm in order to create uh some"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "type of weapon to bring down these"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "craft. And so, interestingly enough,"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "what we're seeing here is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "something that does align with modern"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "UFO crash lore. There is in fact some"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "evidence linking the crash of at least"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "three circular discshaped spacecraft"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "having occupants of a description"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "similar of these ET reticulants in the"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "four corners area of our west where a"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "high energy area air traffic control"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "radar was installed near Mount Teleride"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "at the time but was later decommissioned"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "because it was too quote unquote hot and"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "killed a number of animals in the"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "vicinity. The reticulate"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "extraterrestrials visiting Charleston"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "told Bill Herman of a network to which"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "they belonged which included other"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "extraterrestrials from other places all"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "carrying out operations including Earth."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "And this is exactly what we see besides"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "the hills in New Hampshire long ago."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "Travis Walton was more recently abducted"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "from a wooded area near Snowflake,"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Arizona by similarly described"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "extraterrestrial beings who also"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "examined him in a way much like that of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Bill Herman and Barney and Betty Hill."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "SMS Charles Moody described his"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "abductors in his own encounter at"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Almagordo, New Mexico in terms very"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "similar to those used by Herman and the"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Hills. The extraterrestrials gave him an"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "examination like the Hills and Bill"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "Herman, a physical and mental"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "examination in considerable detail"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "before they released him and escorted"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "him through parts of their ship. The"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "patterns seem to fit and it all hangs"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "together despite none of these witnesses"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "being aware of any of the others cases"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "before their own experience. Well,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "allegedly. In fact, none of them were"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "much interested in UFOs and UFO stories"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "before their own abductions. Again,"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "allegedly, we must reserve some"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "skepticism. Although we do suspend our"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "disbelief here quite regularly, it is"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "important to practice a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "restraint when it comes to these things."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Uh just to keep a rational mind about"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "us. After that they knew, okay, we have"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "decided to resume articulent ET"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "reporting in this a second volume on"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "these contacts because of the very close"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "relationship between the first several"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "down discs recovered by our government"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "and these particular alien"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "extraterrestrials see UFO crash at Aztec"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "uh this thing right here."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "It now appears quite probable at least"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "some of the ET bodies we have in"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "preservation occupants from the down"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "discs may in fact be of reticulan origin"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "as the reticulan contacts are still"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "ongoing today. It also seems within the"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "realm of possibility that we might know"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "or at some future time be able to open"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "up some kind of official dialogue"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "leading to the return of the aliens"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "remains and some kind of official"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "relationship with that class of being."}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "if we have not already done so."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "We hope that by bringing all of this to"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "public attention, we may be able to"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "influence our government to reveal some"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "of the secrets about these activities"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "which they have been sitting on for so"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "many years. And that is the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "introduction, incredibly interesting."}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "Um, as noted by Wendell Stevens, there"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "are many other cases which not only"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "feature similar craft, similar beings,"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "but also happen in the similar time"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "frame in the similar Four Corners area."}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "And Four Corners, we're talking about uh"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, I"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "believe. And uh it is also, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "that's the first time I've ever visited"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "that part of the world uh was when I was"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "down there with Jesse Michaels looking"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "at the Aztec crash and going to the"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "crash site was quite amazing to see"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "firsthand and with the guidance of uh"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Suzanne and Scott Ramsay. It was just a"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "really enlightening trip. Uh something"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "that I'll remember for the rest of my"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "life and I look forward to sharing that"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "story when it does come out."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "Okay, this is the origin of the Bill"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Herman sightings. We're not going to get"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "into all of them. I do want to get into"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "his contact with the ETS. Uh but it's"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "important to note that these sightings"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "began years before his abduction in"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "1977."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "This is where he observed uh many"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "sightings of these discs performing"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "impossible maneuvers such as following a"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Cessna. Um he observed them following"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "different airplanes. He observed them uh"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "doing these triangular"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "maneuvers which you know I've heard of"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "before through many of the calls of the"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "people that call into this show have"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "observed as well but like some type of"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "triangular"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "maneuver for some reason. And then"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "sometime I believe in 19 was this 1978."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "Yeah. That would have been the first"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "time that Bill Herman would be uh to his"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "knowledge abducted. And he goes into"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "more detail about the sighting prior to"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "the abduction in the first volume, but"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "we're going to get into the summary of"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "that and then into the subsequent"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "meeting or experience. 18th of March,"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "1978,"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "Bee's Ferry in Ashley River area,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "Somerville, 9:25 to midnight, well to"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "12:15."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Weather clear, visibility unlimited,"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "wind southwest at 6 knots, 40 to 42"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "degrees Fahrenheit. After observing"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "object moving in triangular patterns and"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "also through binoculars, walked to"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "railroad line and toward object for"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "better look, object suddenly dropped and"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "swooped in very close and took the"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "witness aboard in a beam of blue light."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "I do want to get into that actually a"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "little bit because the details of that"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "abduction"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "are quite remarkable. He gets into all"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "of his sightings by the way"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "in great detail. Very, very thorough"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "person."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "So, here we go. Here is that"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "uh original abduction and what happened."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "So, while watching a UFO moving in"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "triangular patterns, I was standing and"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "thought I would try to get a closer look"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "at the object. So, I walked to the end"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "of the trailer park and cut through an"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "area where I knew a shortcut, a path"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "that led to the train tracks in the"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "trestle area quite close to the power"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "towers and to the general area under the"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "UFO. When I got to the end of the"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "street, Floyd Circle, the fence where"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "the shortcut was was no longer open. It"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "had been repaired. So, I ran out of the"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "trailer park and made my way to the"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "pathway. I was walking down to the train"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "tracks short distance and could see the"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "UFO hovering over the left of SCENG"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "Power Tower. I stopped walking and stood"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "there as I saw the object start another"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "triangular figure. Then the UFO suddenly"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "dropped. For a moment, I thought it was"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "going to hit the river or marsh."}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Instead, the UFO just sat there [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "just above the Ashley River. Then, the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "brightness disappeared."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "Instantly, like a light was shut off."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Before I could react, I saw a blur of"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "motion, and the UFO was no more than 10"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "to 15 ft in front of where I was"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "standing, just above a large bush facing"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "I was very startled and lost my footing"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "and started to fall, losing my balance."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "I quickly turned around to see what I"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "was going to fall on. 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I tried to put my hands through"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "the blue haze and to my surprise I could"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "extend my hands right through it. I also"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "seemed to retain my balance and I didn't"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "feel as if I was falling at this point"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "in this account. My mind is a blur and I"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "can't recall exactly what happened next."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "All I recall is a sound sort of distant"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "and it is pulsating a hum of sorts and"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "the first inclination is that the source"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "of the sound lies below in a basement."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "Details are sketchy from this point on."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "[music] I remember waking up lying on a"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "bed or a table and in a reddish small"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "room and there are three individuals"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "standing near a box that resembles a TV."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "Maybe it is a TV. 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As I touch"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "their arms again, I am aware of a deeper"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "strength."}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "And then we pass the box and I notice on"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "the bottom of the box there are wheels"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "and that the box is connected to the bed"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "or table. Like in a days we walk through"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "a narrow doorway in a circular hallway."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "The walls of the hallway are the same"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "color as the room. 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I can't"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "describe the kind of gentleness that"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "came over [music] me. My mind is a"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "blank, as if something is missing. And"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "then I recall walking into a doorway. It"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "shuts with a swishing sound."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "And suddenly opens into a room that is"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "empty, save for a massive amount of"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "machinery located in the center of this"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "room, which is filled with colors."}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "In the checkerboard, constantly in"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "motion. Two checkerboard constantly in"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "motion. Two large round balls are"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "attached to the top left and top right"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "sides of the machinery. Wires and rods"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "are seen in the center of the balls. A"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "moment of doubt. Yes, the round balls"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "are transparent."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "Two people are seated at a desk facing"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "the checkerboards."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "They rise as we approach the lights in"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "motion and they step back behind us"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "again. the voice. This is our"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "equilibrium manipulator unit. Come, we"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "must return to the inculcation chamber."}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "The time has arrived."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "We go out the door and into a small"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "doorway. It shuts, opens, and we walk"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "back down the hallway. We pass the room"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "where the machinery is located. I see"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "the tape reels as we pass the doorway."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "All of them are stopped. We continue"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "down the hallway. Just going to pause"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "here for a second. And I find this very"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "fascinating that we're mentioning tape"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "reels. Now he says he assumes these are"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "tape reels. Now 1980 late 1970s these"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "would be quite you know regular and also"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "probably considered high tech at the"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "time. I do find it very interesting that"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "I mean there's there's a few points here"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "to be made. either this is made up some"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "or some type of screen memory or he's"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "just relating whatever he's familiar"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "with or these beings are actually using"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "reals realtore technology you know who's"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "to say you know or maybe they did it"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "just to make him comfortable or or maybe"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "this is the military performing some"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "type of secret MK Ultra SCOP on this guy"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "and they've got real tore going you know"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "the options are endless but endlessly"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "curious Curious nonetheless,"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "we walked into the first room on our"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "left. 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The essay, the"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "inculcation monitor will help you"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "remember. Contact him. The essay will"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "come to you. That voice so knowing."}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "There is a blur of motion. Lights of all"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "colors shine upon me like a prism"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "rainbow. A token of contentment."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "Fear subsides and serenity entraps me"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "within. Everything is blank. I notice"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "the wall has no borders. It looks like"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "the walls are one long sheet of bright"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "red and silver polished metal, almost"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "like a molded surface. Why didn't I"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "notice that before? I mean, once again,"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "we're seeing something very reminiscent"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "of many, many countless abduction"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "stories where these rounded walls seem"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "to stick out to the experiencers"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "because it's something so unusual that"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "there are no seams. We don't realize how"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "unusual something like that is. You"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "know, especially if you look at Bob"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "Lazar's craft, you see these tiny"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "benches, these chairs that are molded,"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "again, prior to 3D printing, just kind"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "of molded into the floor. And that must"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "be just so striking because it's not"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "something we're familiar with in"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "everyday architecture or design. It's"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "not something that comes up very often,"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "especially probably not back then. So,"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "it does stand out. Also interesting is"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "the sort of flooding of serenity that is"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "felt by Bill in this instance. Obviously"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "we you know we've often referred to Dan"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "Burrish um famous sort of alleged"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "whistleblower who worked at S4 with"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "these beings and Dan Burish once said"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "that these beings have the capacity to"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "flood you with endorphins. So sort of"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "hormonally control your brain somehow"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "and and flooding you with these"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "endorphins to make you feel good to"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "attenuate or diminish the amount of fear"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "that you're feeling. So if they feel"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "that you're panicking, all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "you'll feel hyper serene like these are"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "your kin, like these are your friends"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "and your family and there's this sense"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "of familiarity."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "And uh we hear that time and time again,"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "not only in these cases, but again"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "recently with Jeremy Weekes kind of"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "saying the same thing, but also, you"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "know, Whitley Strieber and countless"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "others. the time that we don't see it,"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "which I thought was interesting is um"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "when I spoke to Travis Walton, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "Travis said that he was in a panic and"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "and maybe whatever happened to him,"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "maybe the injury prevented them from"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "psychically calming him down for"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "whatever reason. So, um I think it's"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "interesting that they use our brains as"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "a means to calm us down rather than some"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "type of external instrument. Or maybe"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "there is an external instrument that"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "triggers that. Who knows? We're"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "speculating. We're having fun. All"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "This could all be bogus. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "But it's fun."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "I am surrounded by that blue haze of"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "light. Safety within [music] again."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "There is an orange glow at my feet,"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "almost like a mirrored reflection. I"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "look at my feet. I am suddenly very,"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "very disoriented, confused, and"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "frightened. [music] I look around me."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "Pitch black darkness all around me. A"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "rush of fear explodes and I look above"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "me. I see a dark circular outline rising"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "slowly. I look for the river and marsh."}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "Try to get my sense of direction."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Nothing looks familiar. Where in God's"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "creation am I? I find myself quoting"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "Bible verses. I am running back and"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "forth screaming for help. What is going"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "on? Nothing looks familiar. I look"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "upward. The stars are distinct. Obvious."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "What's that? It's moving up, down, back"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "and forth in a triangle. The disc."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "Where are the power towers? They were"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "right there a moment ago. Wait a minute."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "A flashback of thought and then nothing."}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "Get back to the glow. There's safety"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "within it. I stop running."}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "I see the glow. It is not as bright as"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "It is fading."}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "Silence."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "Silence and stillness."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "What's that? What's Who's over there?"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "No answer again. Silence. I stand and"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "feel the breeze. It's [music] sort of"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "chilly. I look upward. The disc is"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "moving in a triangular pattern. It"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "levels off and then halts, but just for"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "a second. Then it rushes away to my"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "left, out of sight. At that moment,"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "light shines through the darkness to my"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "left. Car lights. There is a road to my"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "left, and those are trees. I realize I"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "am in an open field, a tilled field. But"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "where? How did I get here?"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "Figure that out later, Bill. Right now,"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "get help. I run in the direction of the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "trees near the road where I saw the car"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "speed by."}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "It is about a minute or so and a car"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "comes around the curve in the road. I"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "flag the car down. Please get help. Call"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "a policeman. Where am I? What time is"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "it? I am told I am on Bacon's Bridge"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "Road in Somerville."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "And it is after 12:15, after midnight,"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "but it was 9:30 or so a moment ago."}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "I start crying."}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "I feel like I'm going to pieces. Get a"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "hold of yourself, Bill. I repeat my plea"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "for a policeman. The people in the BMW"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "drive off. I wonder if they think I'm"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "drunk or crazy or both."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "I better flag another car down."}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "Volkswagen bug, red and color stops. and"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "I repeat my request for assistance."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "They drive away. The BMW returns. Can"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "they help? They ask. The VW returns. The"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "same offer is repeated. Moments later, a"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "Dorchester County deputy drove up and"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "went back into the field with me as I"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "tried to explain the circumstances."}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "After a routine police report was filled"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "out concerning my being helped by the"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "police, a phone call was made to [music]"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "my wife Patty, which included an"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "insinuation that my mental faculties"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "were left to be desired for sane"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "behavior. I was dropped off at a quick"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "stop convenience store, apparently for"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "the convenience of the policemen."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "After an hour and a half, my father and"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "my wife arrived at the store and I went"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "back to Charleston with them. By"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "arrangement of Jim and Coral Lorenzan of"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "APRO, Dr. James Harter, PhD, who has"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "developed a considerable reputation for"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "his success in recovering information"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "from the deeper levels of consciousness"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "and bringing it forward to the waking"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "consciousness of contactees, entered the"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "case and began working with William"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "Herman."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "Through his efforts, Herman is now able"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "to consciously recall most of what"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "happened that night and can deal with it"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "on a rational level. He wrote me in his"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "subsequent letter,"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "\"I myself observed this UFO on November"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "12th, 20 27th, December 2nd, 4th,"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "January 22nd,"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "and February 8th twice. And on the 22nd"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "of January and the 27th of November, I"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "was able to photograph the object. The"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "constancy of the UFO over the Charleston"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "area disturbed me. Many other people"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "witnessed this object also, but for fear"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "of ridicule, these people desire to"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "remain unknown. However, they did"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "discuss the circumstances of their"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "observances with me and verify the"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "details that were available at the time"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "of the interviews. They are as follows."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "The object was about twice the size of a"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "Piper Cherokee and of a silver bright"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "metallic appearance about 60 to 70 ft in"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "diameter. The object moved in a familiar"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "triangular pattern and was most often"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "seen in the general area of Bee's Ferry"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "and Ashley River near Drayton on the"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "Ashley and up near the Hunley Park"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "subdivisions above me about 800 to 1,000"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "ft above the ground. I received the"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "impression that I was being watched more"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "than I was watching. Except for two"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "nights in February, the sightings were"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "not as regular after the January 22nd"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "sighting, but the big event [music] was"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "still to come. We will allow Bill to"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "repeat his new recollection at the"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "abduction to show how sometimes"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "confusing details cleared up. March 18th"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "was a Saturday. The object was again"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "seen over the power tower area. I"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "pointed it out to my wife [music] and"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "her close friend who had come over that"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "evening. I mentioned to Patty that I was"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "going to get a better look at it. I put"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "on my coat and grabbed my binoculars. I"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "looked at the clock on the TV and it"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "said 9:15. Okay. So, at this point, he's"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "going to go back through. We will not uh"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "cover that abduction again. But, uh he"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "does go into some interesting details"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "here, saying that his legs felt like"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "they were asleep."}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "The room resembled a hospital room, very"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "clean, very orderly. The air even seemed"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "clean, like oxygen was flowing into it,"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "sort of breezelike, but it had a"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "different smell, noticeably different."}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "Opening his eyes, he said, \"I looked"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "above me and the room and the ceiling"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "were the same color. Directly above me"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "was a rectangular shaped bar, flashing"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "lights.\" So, he goes on to describe the"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "beings as well, saying they looked very"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "pale and sort of soft skin with a sponge"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "look about them."}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Their dark brown eyes were very"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "distinct, perfectly round, and stark in"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "appearance."}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "They had no hair or eyebrows, nor was"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "any of the hair of any kind visible."}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "Their heads were unusually large and"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "bulging with small mouths and hardly any"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "jaw. They looked oriental yet familiar."}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "My first reaction was panic, but I felt"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "reassured by the look in their eyes."}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "This is so interesting. Okay, he does go"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "into greater detail and for for"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "redundancy sake I don't want to read the"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "entire thing but I will uh I will look"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "through this and and read portions that"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "I find to be uh valuable. He says I must"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "be inside the object. This must be some"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "kind of airlock or something. Who are"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "you? I asked. What are you doing in"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "Charleston? And to these questions I got"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "no answers. I decided not to be too"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "pushy or rude to keep calm and to try to"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "remember everything. I still felt clear"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "but in a days a mixture of both. I was"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "told come with us. This is where he goes"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "back into the place with the levers and"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "the buttons and the machinery. He says I"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "am told"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "the time is short. Come. And we leave"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "the room and walk into a hallway. walk"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "around the hallway and enter another"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "small room cramped like a closet and the"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "door shuts. There's a pause and the door"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "opens again. And then we enter a larger"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "room that is empty except for an immense"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "amount of machinery and luminous"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "objects. Large round balls and levers,"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "buttons, knobs of different colors. Uh"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "so almost like a transitional"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "uh hallway almost like an air lock like"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "something you would have on a spaceship"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "where perhaps the oxygen or you know air"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "quality is monitored in a different way"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "so that you have to block one room"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "before opening up another."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "Same type of things were observed on"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "Travis Walton's ship as well with these"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "doors swinging or or sort of uh sliding"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "open and closed. He then goes on asking"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "them like why tell me why not manifest"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "yourself. Uh oh. They say this is our"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "equilibrium manipulation chamber by"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "which we attain free flight. So they"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "actually give him a tour of the ship"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "which is quite standard for these type"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "of experiences. Uh but then he asks,"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "\"Why not manifest yourself to the"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "world?\" And and he got no response, no"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "Instead, they said, \"Come time is short,"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "it will soon be finished.\" And he asks,"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "\"Will I remember? Are you the leader,"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "the one in charge, and I understand that"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "I may think so if I so desire?\" We walk"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "out of that room into a cubicle room"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "again. The doors shut, a pause, they"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "open again, and we walk down the curved"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "hallway and enter a room with the table"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "again. \"What is that?\" I ask pointing to"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "the bar of lights now flashing again in"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "the same sequence as before. The"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "inculcation monitor or inculcation"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "monitor I hear. Will I remember? Why"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "tell me? Why show me all this? I am told"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "to lie down and I do so. It will all be"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "explained eventually. There is a reason."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "You will eventually understand. I hear."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "I gaze into the bar of lights. There is"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "something relaxing about it. I look"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "around me. One last look. Then I become"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "disoriented again. Very relaxed, almost"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "sleeping. and I lose consciousness."}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "Everything dims out. My eyes can't"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "focus. My legs get sleepy. I blackout."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "And now is where he's in this sort of"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "open field."}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "And then he goes on to uh describe his"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "uh his incredible, you know, story to"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "police and then subsequently to Coral"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "and Jim Laoren of AppPro."}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "Here,"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "by the way, are the beings. I've"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "featured the description of these beings"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "in in many videos before, especially"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "when we were talking about the snake"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "emblem that appeared. Here is one of the"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "first sort of appearances in that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "often referenced by Lucerta, which is"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "really interesting."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "So after this event, Bill's father and"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "his wife Patty picked him up and took"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "him home. He felt unclean and washed and"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "took his clothes off and put him in a"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "bag. Exhausted, he went into bed and"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "tried to forget the whole thing. He"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "slept fitfully. For many weeks after,"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "Bill was plagued by severe migraine"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "headaches, restlessness, and sleepless"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "nights. He could recall little detail of"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "what had happened to him. again par for"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "the course uh when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "abductions. The earliest of which was"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Antonio via Boaz who had also you know"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "had a bunch of sleepless nights, lost"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "his appetite, lost a bunch of weight, uh"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "vomited quite a bit, was very sick, had"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "migraines, um you know, this all sounds"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "like some type of radiation sickness."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "But even before the abduction and"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "shortly after is showing the 2 sec the"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "22 January color photographs to the air"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "base security officials. Are those the"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "ones on?"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "No, these are the ones from the 4th of"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "April."}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "A new and mysterious figure entered the"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "case. He claimed he was Tom Olsen, the"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "director of of a Ryderwood, Maryland UFO"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "research organization called UFO IRC,"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "UFO Information Retrieval Center. PO Box"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "57, Ryderwood, Maryland 21139."}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "Subsequent investigation proved this"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "identification to be entirely false."}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "The real Tom Olsen, the actual director"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "of UFOIRC,"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "knew nothing of the activities of the"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "man claiming to be him in Charleston."}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "Subsequent information indicates that"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "this impostor actually works for a"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "highranking man in the State Department"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "of the United States of all places."}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "After this first abduction, this"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "impostor continued to show up to"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "intimidate, threaten, and persuade Bill"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "Herman to be cool and keep his"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "experiences quiet. that he did not know"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "what he was getting himself into, etc."}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "This fake Tom Olsen also intercepted"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "mail and telephone calls between us and"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "the witness and between both the witness"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "and us to all other parties we contacted"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "concerning this case."}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "Oh, this might be some, you know, Men in"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "Black type stuff here. In early December"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "1978, about 9 months after the first"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "abduction aboard the craft, Bill Herman"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "sat down in his little study to try and"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "reproduce some of the symbol characters"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "he had seen aboard the ship during his"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "tour of the craft. Suddenly, his hand"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "began automatically writing. Regular"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "lines of a strange and completely"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "unknown script form, writing rapidly"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "from right to left in a manner"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "completely the opposite of all his"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "training and familiarity in writing. And"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "the flow of the characters was smooth"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "and uninterrupted until the end of the"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "message. He did not know what it said."}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "And in the course of time, he received"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "this same script form in four different"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "hands and styles of writing, but always"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "the same symbols or characters being"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "used. How interesting. [music]"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "After that first experience aboard the"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "alien craft, Herman developed a variety"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "of sensitive talents such as"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "clairvoyance, clair audience, and"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "precognition. Besides the automatic"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "writing,"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "these new faculties seem to have been"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "awakened in him while aboard the ship"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "but with a programmed delay in"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "recognition by him. They have in fact"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "already saved his life. Herman is"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "clearly told and with adequate"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "demonstration that these beings come"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "from a twin sun system in a star group"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "very sim very familiar to him. They said"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "that we have discovered these two suns"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "and we call them zeta 1 and zeta 2"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "reticuli. They carry on a rectangular"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "interstellar commerce between them and"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "other stars in their vicinity of our"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "galaxy, but only come here on"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "exploratory missions for their quote"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "unquote network. Our sun lies off their"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "regular lines of communications, but is"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "a point of interest to them in their"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "investigations of the cosmos. Okay, very"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "interesting here is a few things. One, a"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "network. You know, I often refer to"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "something as a system. We've read"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "through, you know, uh the Matilda Mroy"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "um case study of alien interrogation"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "where they mention something known as"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "the domain and how there's some type of"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "system uh monitoring the galaxy as well."}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "We also have a recent whistleblower on"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "Reddit. I say whistleblower very"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "loosely, but uh talk about a council"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "that is also monitoring planets. We also"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "hear this council talk from Jeremy"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "Weekes. I mean, it seems like more and"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "more information is coming. Well, it's"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "already been here, but I mean, I'm being"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "made aware of more and more of uh of"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "this information. And it seems like"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "there is some type of intergalactic"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "I don't want to say federation because I"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "know a lot of people you know they get"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "their own ideas of what a galactic"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "federation should be but it seems like"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "there is some type of"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "system in place that is monitoring and"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "that system might be communicating with"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "other races and this might be the reason"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "we hear about multiple species aboard"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "these craft being observed by"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "experiencers. Very very interesting"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "indeed. Any anytime we can gleam a"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "little bit of information about the"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "reason for these beings monitoring us or"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "or anything at all, their their craft,"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "their communications. I find it just so"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "fascinating, you know? It's like uh it's"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "like it's filling plot holes to like"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "this incredibly vast and complicated"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "science fiction novel. And uh I'm here"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "for it."}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "I'm here for it. On Saturday the 21st of"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "April 1979, Bill Herman saw the"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "spacecraft again several times, the last"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "being at 419. An hour later, he was in"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "the bedroom of his home working on some"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "of the sketches of the interior features"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "of the abduction ship. Suddenly, when he"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "was impelled to change paper and began"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "writing the alien script in the rapid,"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "crisp style, he filled two pages of"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "symbols again, writing from left to"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "right, [music] and then the writing"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "ended."}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "As it did so, the room began to fill"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "with a glow of blue light. Looking"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "around, he saw a squarish ball of"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "intense blue radiance in front of the"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "dresser. It was pulsating and getting"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "bigger as he watched. It grew in"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "intensity and size until it was too"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "bright to look directly at. It filled"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "the middle of the room, centering itself"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "over the corner of the dresser, and then"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "began to subside. As it grew dimmer, he"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "could make out a fuzzy, denser central"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "mass that also dimmed down in a few"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "seconds until the whole glow had"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "disappeared. In its place on the corner"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "of the dresser was a dark silver block"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "of metal."}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "He picked it up and examined it. It was"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "rectangular, like a small bar of"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "precious metal, of a size that easily"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "fit in the palm of his hand, and its top"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "was covered with symbols cut into the"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "metal surface. It was warmer than the"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "room when he picked it up. He hefted it"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "for a few minutes and then went to his"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "phone and called me, Colonel Stevens in"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "Tucson, still holding the artifact in"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "his hand. He described the event and"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "then the bar of metal he was holding. I"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "quickly snapped on my recorder and made"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "a copy of that conversation. He asked me"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "to notify John Fielding also, and I said"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "I would, and for him to stand by, that"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "if I could catch Jon right away, I would"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "have him call Herman back right away in"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "case he had any more questions. I caught"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "John at home and and advised him. I"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "waited a bit and then tried to call John"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "Fielding to see what he thought. His"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "line was busy for 45 minutes. When I"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "finally got through, he had the most"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "amazing story for me. He said that as he"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "was talking to Bill, Bill's voice broke"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "and he was panting. Then in growing"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "fright, he said the same blue glow was"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "growing in the bedroom again and was"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "getting brighter, flooding the doorway"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "and illuminating the hallway, followed"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "almost immediately by the street lights"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "outside and then the whole block."}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "Fielding was urging Bill to go and see"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "if another object was being left in the"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "bedroom by the glow when an alien being,"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "the same one who had escorted Herman on"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "the tour of the spacecraft, stepped out"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "of the bedroom into the darkened"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "hallway, now illuminated by a blue glow."}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "Herman's voice, now barely audible,"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "whispered, \"Oh my god, they're in my"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "house.\" Fielding told Herman to ask them"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "about the bar of metal, then said, \"Get"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "them on the phone. Let me talk to them.\""}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "This is This would have been my"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "reaction, too. I would Yeah, 100%. Ask"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "him if he wants to do the podcast. Tell"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "him to like and subscribe."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "Sir Herman said, \"This is so wild. This"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "is getting insane.\" Uh, sir, John"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "Fielding wants to talk to you. Do you"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "know him? He held the phone toward the"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "alien being. About that time, a second"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "alien stepped out of the bedroom and"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "then both stood in the hallway with that"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "blue light from the room bathing them."}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "They did not radiate any light, nor did"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "they carry any other lights of their"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "own. They were dressed in the same"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "suedelike one-piece suits Bill had seen"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "them wearing aboard the spacecraft in"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "March. The leader said telepathically,"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "\"We know of him. He can be trusted.\""}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "Then at John's insistence, Herman asked"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "about the bar of metal, and the leader"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "said again telepathically, \"That is a"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "gift for you.\""}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "Fielding recorded that entire"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "conversation also and sent me a copy in"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "the next mail. It arrived successfully"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "with no interference this time. The"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "strange events surrounding this case go"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "on and on. On the evening of 8th of May"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "1979, Bill and his wife had gone over to"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "Charleston Square to get a cassette tape"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "mailer and Bill went into the Radio"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "Shack store there to make a purchase. He"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "noticed a Model 80 home computer there"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "on sale. He stopped to look at it. The"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "set was on and there was a display"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "showing on the monitor video screen."}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Suddenly, the screen wiped clean and the"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "computer printout began to spell on the"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "now empty video screen Zeta 1 Reticuli."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "Zeta 2 Reticuli William Herman. Then it"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "spaced down and spelled the same thing"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "over and over again. When it finished,"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "the display remained on for a moment,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "and then the screen wiped wiped clean"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "again, and the original display appeared"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "on the screen once more. Dumbfounded and"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "incredulous, Herman looked around to see"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "if anyone else had noticed. He saw that"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "no one else was paying any attention."}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "Since the strange display had already"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "gone, he decided not to try and tell"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "anybody what had happened."}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "He went out to the nearest phone booth"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "and called me to report this newest"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "development. But all this was only a"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "prelude to what was still to come."}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "On the evening of 6th of May 1979,"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "I received an urgent call from Bill"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "Herman. He was calling to tell me that"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "the ET spacecraft was back in the Ashley"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "River area that evening and that he had"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "seen it twice already that day."}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "This always signified a major event"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "about to occur with the reticulent"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "and we both knew it which was the reason"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "for the call. He was worried about what"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "was going to happen and all the"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "conditions were right. He was alone"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "because his wife had gone to sit with"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "her invalid mother. He had been"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "receiving regular communications from"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "the reticulans in the form of telepathic"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "[music] clare audient and clairvoyant"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "transmissions and psychic projections"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "besides his automatic writing. All of"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "which were new to him. This had been"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "going on for several months and he had"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "reached the stage where he no longer"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "told his wife or his minister about them"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "because they found it disturbing and"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "thought it was the work of the devil. He"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "was in his trailer home alone and had"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "the peculiar feeling that something big"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "was about to occur. He had by this time"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "gotten over his fright from the first"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "abduction. After recovering full recall"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "of the event, he had come to respect and"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "even had warm feelings for those little"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "ETs. We had a number of conversations"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "about the possibility of his going"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "aboard the craft again. And he always"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "had reservations and whatifs that I"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "sought to overcome."}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "He had psyched himself into a"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "willingness to take the opportunity if"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "it were ever offered again because he"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "had a lot of additional questions he now"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "wanted to ask and things he wanted to"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "see once more. We both felt that since"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "Oh, this gets really interesting. This"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "is about to this is about to get really"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "interesting. We both felt that since the"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "contacts were still open and the"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "communications were pro progressing that"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "another opportunity might present itself"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "sometime in the future. He had even"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "received a long message in the alien"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "script form the previous night which he"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "still could not read. And now this"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "renewed activity today. He had felt"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "their presence all day which aroused"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "anxiety about what was developing and"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "raised all his old fears again."}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "He didn't know what he wanted to do and"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "in his indecision wanted more"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "discussion. His greatest concern was for"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "his family in case he did go aboard the"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "craft and didn't return immediately. He"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "asked for assurance that if he'd go out"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "to meet the spacecraft this evening and"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "was actually taken aboard that someone"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "would come to his home and look for"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Patty and his little daughter Mandy"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "until his return. I assured him that in"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "such an event I would see to it that his"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "wife and family were cared for until he"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "got back and that we would be waiting"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "for him there."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "I think that eased his mind a little and"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "he said he was prepared for whatever"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "might happen."}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "He had his camera, his notebook at the"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "ready and his binoculars with his"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "jacket."}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "At this point, there was a pause in"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "conversation"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "and then a note of surprised"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "astonishment in his voice as he"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "exclaimed, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "it's out there again now. I can see it."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "It's out there [music] now. Now's your"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "chance, Bill. You may never get another"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "one. Go on out there and try to meet"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "them. I will call Patty in the morning"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "to see if you're there. And if you're"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "not, I will tell her about this call and"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "what is happening and reassure her."}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "Someone will be there by the end of the"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "day to take care of her and all your"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "problems until you come back. You will"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "come back. I've followed a number of"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "these events [music] and the witness"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "always comes back."}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "Some stayed for days. Try to stay as"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "long as they will let you offer to help"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "them to work with them. Try to get"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "something for us to study. Bring"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "something, anything back. Even a button,"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "a knob, a piece of paper, a corner of"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "material, anything. Don't worry about"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "here. I can do what I promise. Try to"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "get pictures. You may not have to work"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "again if this is handled right."}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "I'm going on out. I'll call you later."}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "He hung up the phone and left me"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "standing there, dimly realizing that"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "this was a first in Euphology."}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "A witness [music]"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "has just informed me that he is going"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "out to meet an extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "spacecraft, a ship from another world,"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "and I am to patiently wait for his"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "return. I looked at the clock. It was"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "12:25 a.m. Charleston time. Going to end"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "it there, folks, for today."}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "Things are getting stranger yet in"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "Charleston, South Carolina."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "You know, in looking at these photos,"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "it is"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "quite difficult to imagine"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "the"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "overwhelming"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "Aldridge sense of fear"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "that you must feel observing something"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "so unfamiliar."}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "It's hard for my human brain"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "to"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "comprehend that these might not be"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "hoaxes."}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "And I I feel like many of you are in of"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "the same sort of mindset."}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "Yeah, they make you think. That's for"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "sure. And notice the angle. They're like"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "tilted as well. They're usually always"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "tilted. Fascinating. Fascinating. From"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "the daytime to the nighttime"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "descriptions of the craft,"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "the beings, the message, the automatic"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "writing, the"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "sort of development of psychic ability."}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "All of this is really intriguing, rather"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "fantastical,"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "and uh definitely"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "makes me"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "hungry for more of um you know, of these"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "type of encounters. If you enjoyed this"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "particular brand of video,"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "um please let me know. We are going to"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "be covering all of the items that I have"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "purchased in this auction. Now, I have"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "backed up these items and they are being"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "stored in a facility uh very very safe"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "um just in case."}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "But we are going to be looking at these"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "photos from time to time and"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "investigating with um you know with the"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "help of a lot of the work of Colonel"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "Wendell Stevens, but also a lot of these"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "old magazines that I have that looked"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "into these photos back in the day and"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "tried to rejuvenate and bring some life"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "back into them a little bit."}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "As many of you know, Jesse Michaels and"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "myself are going on tour, doing a live"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "podcast tour in 2026. currently. I'm not"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "sure if they've opened any more dates,"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "but we have Montreal and Austin. Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "it's going to be a great time. We have"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "fantastic guests that you'll definitely"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "recognize if you watch the show and uh"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "we look forward to bringing you a brand"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "new sort of live experience this year"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "and uh look forward to meeting all of"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "you in person as well. So guys, thanks"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "so much for checking this out. Go to"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "area52.shop shop. 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That's all I care"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "about is that you watch it."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> I don't think there's a better, more"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "well doumented recent case in the world."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "They captured one."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "some of the most compelling eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "testimony in few a alien being."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> It was like an entire family and they"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "all saw this object and it was really"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "big shaped like a disc. Zero noise."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> A police chief saying, \"Yeah, there was"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "aliens.\""}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> The alien was alive in this bed right"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "there. And so they came up, I don't"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "know, 2:00, 3:00 in the morning and came"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "out there and they saw this cigar-"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "shaped submarine or the size of a big"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "school bus."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "this seal."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> All the animals were going crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "[music] And he said he got out of the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "car and the smell was so overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "like a ammonia and and sulfur. There was"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "some sort of weird chemical acid on the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "on the grass. It was burning the grass."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> I I had forgotten that he had touched"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the [music] craft. He had a piece in his"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "hand."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Yes. I could feel that anxiety in my"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "stomach. Carlosa gone. Unreachable."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "26"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "years gone. Once they did the test on"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the bacteria, determined that this is"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "nothing like they've seen in their"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "entire careers. It was a strain of a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "bacteria that they've seen, but not the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "way this was evolved in the way it was."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "It was nothing could stop it."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "It's the biggest most significant"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "development in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "phenomenon because I challenge anyone"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "out there to show me testimony from"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "anyone, particularly a neurosurgeon,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> an [music] active neurosurgeon, not"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "retired,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> not retired, who's putting his entire"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "career on the line to say, \"I had"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "face-to-face contact, telepathic"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "communication for 3 to four minutes with"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "an alien."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Hi, my name's Alex and on February 22nd,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "2022, I was working as a crew member on"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "a TV show at Austin Studios in Austin,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Texas."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "And in the early afternoon hours, we"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "witnessed a craft that was spinning in a"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "clockwise direction"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "about 3 to 6,000 ft above the studio. 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While we"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "tracked the orb, the craft disappeared."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Never saw it again that day. 5 weeks"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "later, on March 31st, 2022, I witnessed"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the craft in the same location at the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "same studio at a height of about 1,000"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "ft. And it was massive. It was about the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "size of a coach bus spinning in the same"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "clockwise direction"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "with no decals, no windows, no visible"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "sense propulsion, moving in the same"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "clockwise direction towards the horizon."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "I also witnessed this with two other"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "crew members at the time and have had no"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "explanation as to what it is."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, before we get into"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "today's video, I want to introduce an"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "exclusive clip that we've been given"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "courtesy of James Fox. This clip"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "features Dr. Italo Ventterelli who was"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the neurosurgeon who actually"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "um telepathically communicated with this"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "being as it was lying in the hospital"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "bed. I also want to say that this was"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "not abundantly clear in James'"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "documentary, but many people have"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "addressed this online afterwards that"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Italo had in fact kind of changed his"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "story where initially he said he'd seen"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "a video of the being and now he says"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "that he was in the room with the being."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "The reason for that, from what I"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "understand, is that he did not want to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "thrust himself into the limelight. Many"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "people working at that same hospital"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "obviously felt the same by keeping their"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "privacy and anonymity."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "They would remove themselves"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "from any potential harm to their career"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "or to their lives after suffering a near"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "fatal heart attack and also losing his"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "partner. Um earlier Italo had a change"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "of heart in that moment"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "and decided to come clean on what"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "exactly he saw. Now he puts his"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "reputation on the line as a"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "neurosurgeon. He is someone you would"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "trust to operate on your brain for 13"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "hours straight and as we find out later"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "in our interview"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "was actually fired due to his earlier"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "comments prior to the release of this"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "and they have since reinstated his"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "position because the hospital couldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "function to its fullest capacity without"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "him."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "So if you're thinking that he is not fit"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "to be a doctor because of these claims,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "you are sorely mistaken. He is still a"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "practicing brain surgeon. I will let the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "video play for itself in its original"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "language to convey both his emphasis,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "his cadence, and his genuine"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "message after which the podcast will"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "begin. Please enjoy this message from"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Dr. Italo Venturelli."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Imunist"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "forch."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "foreign."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "you knowific Fore."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Boom. This feels familiar."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> It does. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "It's almost a year. It's been almost"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "exactly actually a year. Um, actually"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "January would make it a year since you"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "graced us with your presence here in the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "skiff. James Fox, welcome."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Thank you so much for having me on."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Before we start, I have to say one"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "thing. This will be a first."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Okay. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "How long have you been rehearsing this?"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "And how long have you been holding it"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "from me?"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> Oh, 20 years."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> That's crazy. [laughter] Crazy French"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "tongue twister for all of you that"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "thought your um the the video was"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "glitching. [laughter] Um yeah, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "actually. We went out to dinner last"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "night and I didn't realize how good your"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "French is."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> Oh, thank you."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Very good. Very uh Parisian."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Very Parisian. Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Yeah. You spent a lot of time in in"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> I lived in Paris. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah. How long?"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> Two years."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Wow. And you picked all that up in two"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "years. That's pretty good."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> Well, I I really immersed myself and I"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "had a roommate who didn't speak a stitch"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "of English, which was incredibly"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "frustrating. His name is Andre Lavek."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "And uh first three to five months"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "particularly when we were arguing over"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "something I was so frustrated cuz I was"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "like I couldn't communicate with this"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "guy and English wasn't on the table at"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> But after five six months it really plus"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "I was going to school."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> And so that really helped and I wanted"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "to learn it."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> I like that you folded and he didn't."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> He's like this is Paris. I will not"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "speak"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> English. We got into an argument. Okay."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "He I like chocolate. I'm a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "chocolate fan. As you noticed, last"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "night I got chocolate cake. I love"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "chocolate."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> And he's like, \"Oh.\" He's like, \"Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "so you have to put salt on your"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "chocolate. Dark chocolate maybe.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> It brings out, \"But I didn't want salt."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "This is like years ago. Nobody put salt"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "on their chocolate.\" I was like, \"No, I"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "don't want salt on.\" He goes, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "then you cannot have, you know.\""}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> So we got this argument. So every time I"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "see chocolate with salt on top, I think"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "of this guy Andre Lavak. He's like,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "\"Well, fine. You're not, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "take his"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> So stupid."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> So stupid."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> Amazing."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> um, speaking of chocolate, let's segue"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "to Aliens."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> Um, you, sir, have just released"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "the next phase of Moment of Contact by"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "the time this airs."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "and which is to you know for me possibly"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "the most convincing case of not only"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "crash retrieval but of being interaction"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "that I've ever heard. It is I am I will"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "say with confidence I'm not one to sling"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "around I believe or I don't believe. I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "am at as near 100% conviction that this"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "is true as I can possibly be especially"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "after this latest iteration. And it is"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "an update to the previous Moment of"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Contact. What's the full title?"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Uh it's it's Moment of Contact and then"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Colon New Revelations of Alien"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Encounters."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Unbelievable"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "unprecedented"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> interviews with, you know, for anyone"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "out there thinking, \"Oh, yeah, it's just"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "some towns folk and a farmer and a No."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "And by the way, I believe farmers, too."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> No slight to farmers. actually believe"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "them a lot more than most people."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Uh but we're talking uh pathologists,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "we're talking neurosurgeons who are head"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "of multiple hospitals, we're talking"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "police chiefs, we're talking uh really"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "the most credible people that a"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "community could produce."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> And all of this happened"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "almost exactly 30 years ago."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> Yeah. And if if you don't mind, I I kind"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "of like to just back up a moment here"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "because, you know, um I think it's"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "important for people to realize like I"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "didn't just believe it cuz I heard like,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "oh, a UFO crash and a lot of aliens."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> In fact, it was quite the opposite."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> When I heard about this case, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "working on my second"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> my second UFO documentary turned out to"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "be out of the blue."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "And I've said this before and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "to say it again. I I heard about it"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "through my partner that we were"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "producing out of the blue with and he's"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "like, \"Oh, mate, you know, we got to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "look into this this crash case in"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Brazil, you know, and and these live"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "aliens walking through the town.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> sounds absurd."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> I couldn't have dismissed it faster. I"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "mean, it was like, \"Yeah, you're nuts."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "I'm not going to spend one second"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "looking into that absolute garbage of a"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "case.\""}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> Yeah. And and I remember probably I mean"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "I I made I made out of the blue. Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Didn't look into it. Refused to read one"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "thing about it"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "that out of blue came out. Then I made"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "another documentary. Um I know what I"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "saw which took me probably three or four"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "years. And uh that was a 2-hour special"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "for the History Channel. And at the end"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "of that I got invited to give a"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "presentation in in Brazil on the film I"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "had done. I know what I saw. And a"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "really good friend of mine who's been"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "very influential behind the scenes and"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "helping me get uh you know distribution"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "and stuff like that and never wanted"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "credit, never wanted a penny. His name"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "was uh Jeff Sagansky and I had a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "respect for him. Very high up on the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "entertainment industry, food chain."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "And he's like, \"Oh, James, you're going"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "to Brazil.\""}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": ">> This is years later. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": ">> You're going to Brazil. Oh, you got to"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "look into that that you know that UFO"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "crash case with live aliens in Vargia."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "And I thought"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> he was persistent. God, not No, this is"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "another guy."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> So, my other partner was This is your"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "second sign."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> This is the second. Well, so he tells me"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "and and I was like, God, not this case."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "But I had so much respect for him and he"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "was so helpful and influential that I"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "just said,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> \"Yeah, Jeff. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'll"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "definitely look into that for you for"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "absolutely. Yeah, for sure. All right."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "You take care. Goodbye.\" Click. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "I'm not going to I'm not going to waste"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "one second on that ridiculous case."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> Jeff, change your life. I I just really"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "want people to understand like how"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "opposed to this case I was and I was"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "making UFO documentaries like I just"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "totally completely respect any"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "skepticism. All I ask is that the people"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "suspend judgment."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> And just listen to the firsthand"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "eyewitness testimony because it's"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "riveting."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> In your defense,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "somebody saying crash saucer, crash"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "craft beings running around town, most"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "people would have the same reaction. you"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "weren't confronted with the amount of"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "evidence that you've compiled."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> When you know this was brought to your"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "attention, nobody came up to you and"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "said, \"Well, there's a head neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "that actually will testify that he"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "looked at the live being in the eyes for"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "several minutes and had telepathic"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "communication with him.\" You weren't"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "told, \"Oh, there's a pathologist that"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "once they did the test on the bacteria"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "determined that this is nothing like"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "they've seen in their entire careers.\""}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "And these guys have been working for 45"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "years as professional pathologists and"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "have done a million, you know, uh,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "biological tests and have never seen"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "anything. This isn't, you weren't"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "confronted with, uh, a police chief"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "saying, \"Yeah, there was aliens.\" This"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "was all prior to that. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "you're forgiven. And I think most people"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "would have felt the same way. But things"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "have changed. You've been to Brazil over"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "15 times. Well, how many times? I I've"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "gone I'll by the time this airs I would"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "have been there three times this year"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "alone."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": ">> Three times this year. So you've been"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "going for 15 years. What I meant to say?"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> Yes. 15 16 years. Yeah. And I going back"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "and forth and going there not believing"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "it. Yeah. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> quite the contrary, I reluctantly after"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "meeting with with Stanton Freriedman who"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "just so happened to be in the same place"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "I was invited to the same conference I"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "was on my first time."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> And I was like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": ">> he was high conviction on it too. He's"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "like, he's like, \"Oh, James, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "cuz somehow it came up at the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "conference.\" And we were in a place"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "called Perui to the south of Sa Paulo."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "It was on the coast. In fact, I know it"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "was on the coast. And uh he's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "yeah. You know, you heard about the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "case.\" I was like, \"Oh, God.\" I started"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "rolling my eyes and I was like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "I've heard about it, but you know, come"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "on. Live aliens walking.\" And then"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Stanton's like, \"No, man. It's you"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "should look into that."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "And Stanton is the reason why him and a"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "handful of others that we know Kevin"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Randall and Don"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": ">> I mean John Mack."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Well, of course. Yeah. But I was just"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "saying that that I had so much respect"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "for him because because of him we're"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "talking about Roswell, right? Kevin"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "Randall and Don of others."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> So I was like,"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "okay, I'll I'll I'll take a look. I'll"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "I'll take a look. And I and I I hooked"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "up with a guy Marco Leal who deserves"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "colossal amount of credit and he was"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "kind of into it early on. I think maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "he had been at it for six years when"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "when when we met and and uh you know"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "there was other researchers that came"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "before me. Cladio Kovo, uh, AJ Gavard,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "uh, Uber Dejada Rodriguez, Pakuchini,"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "uh, Marco Pati, those guys deserve"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "credit really."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": ">> And but there, you know, there was I"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "think it was only one article when it"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "happened in um, I think it was the Wall"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "Street Journal written by one guy and it"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "was like basically stinky aliens get the"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "attention of, you know, the town in in a"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "in a place in Brazil and it was somewhat"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "dismissive and but that was it. It was"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "the only news coverage it got in"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "America. That one little article in the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Wall Street Journal in 1996."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": ">> that was it. So, Americans didn't hear"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "about it. Even though the Americans and"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "I didn't realize the Americans were"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "involved with the case until like over a"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "decade."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> Yeah. They kept a really tight lid."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> They almost They almost got away with"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> They almost got away with it."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> They did."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> That's so crazy. Um, so today what I'd"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "like to go through with you, thank you"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "for that for uh bringing us all up to"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "date. Um,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> there are several several new pieces of"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "information, testimony, and not just"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "anecdotal evidence, but actual um actual"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "evidence of this being completely an"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "anomalous event."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": ">> Uh that features many, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "anomalies within it."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> Yes. And so what we're going to do today"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "is I'd like to go through basically I"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "watched the documentary and I took all"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "my notes and I'd like to go through"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "certain parts uh for you to maybe go"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "into a little bit more detail and"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "because of cutting you know we couldn't"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "get into those uh in the film. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "also I want to spend a large part of"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "this time going through the case of"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Marco Terresy and his autopsy report"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "which I've been provided."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": ">> Um, I have a copy of the autopsy report"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "which we've had translated. And for"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "those of you who do not know, uh, Mr."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "crazy was in the military and he was he"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "was the person who took this being in"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "his arms and brought him into the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "hospital and then developed a severe"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "bacteriological"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "viral illness that uh killed him within"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "weeks"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> and it was a complete mystery"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> y"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> until now. Now we kind of have a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "more evidence about that. So I think"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "it's just a really important case."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And uh thank you Dr. Janini who"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "the founder of IPD who did the uh"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "analysis back in 1996 and thank you Dr."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Armando"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "for having the courage to come forward"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "on camera for this latest cut and put"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "your necks out for the rest of us"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "because these people have everything to"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "lose nothing to gain lifelong"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "reputations in their field and"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "essentially particularly Dr. Janine is"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "coming forward and saying I've never"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "seen anything like it before. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> I've never seen anything like it since."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "And I've done thousands and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "of analysis, you know, forensic"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "pathologists for for decades."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": ">> And and I want to get to that because"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "there's also Dr. uh Fertado."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> The cardiologist."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> who who who uh Marco went to go see"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "right uh right at the beginning because"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "he had he had problems. This was like uh"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "this was mentioned that Marco came clean"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "to this doctor because he's like,"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> \"Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, sorry. Yes. I need"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "you to save my life. Um because"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "essentially he was ill and he spilled"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the beans in hopes that it would help"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "him find some type of cure with his"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "illness and what was going on with him."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> So um yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "are we talking specifically about Marco"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Sharice right now? Because Yeah. Okay. I"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "was going to say what led us to the"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "other guy, but yeah, we can laser like"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "focus on that."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": ">> Let's let's go let's start a little bit"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "before that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. So, I want to start with"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "Carlos Duza."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": ">> Uh Carlos, who was the original crash"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "witness that you featured in the first"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "moment of contact."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:01", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": ">> Has an incredible emotional reaction to"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "the crash site where he literally falls"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "to his knees and cries."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": ">> Um just a startling piece of footage"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "watching that. Yeah. You know, so I'm so"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "glad you guys caught that on video. That"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "was just such a powerful moment. And"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> Carlos is a geography professor. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "So, you know, he's not uh"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": ">> and an ultralight pilot"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": ">> and Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, um"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "he's got a keen eye. He's a credible"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "witness and you know, you were able to"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "talk to him and bring him to the crash"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "site. Can you tell me [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": ">> what it was like watching him just start"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "running"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "and and and being, you know, telling"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "you, \"It's here, Aki. Aki.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "\"It's here. It's here.\" That was just so"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "such an emotional piece. Well, it was"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "really initially quite frustrating"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "because we uh Marco Leal had found"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "because Okay, so I'm going to back up"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "for a minute. I did a film called The"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Phenomenon and in The Phenomenon, I"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "worked for five or six years, maybe a"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "little longer, on the Virgini case, you"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "know, and I was introducing Rua. I did a"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "bunch of cases around the world, one in"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Australia, one in Africa, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "cases scattered across the world. And"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "one of the cases I was going to cover in"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the film was Varja."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "But at the end of the day, I got towards"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the end of the phenomenon and I just"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "thought, you know, this really doesn't"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "fit and I'm missing critical witnesses."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "We're missing the guy, the crash witness"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "that came forward one time and then"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "vanished for 26 years. There was just"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "other aspects of the story and I decided"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "to delete it out of the film which was a"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "very painful day. I call it killing your"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "darlings. And I remember the very day"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "when I in the timeline and all the work"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "I done and all the you know transcribe"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "you know the subtitle everything just"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "click boom gone. And [clears throat] um"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "and Marco was devastated. He's like"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "we've been working on this for so long."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "I can't believe you did that. I was like"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "Marco there's more witnesses we got to"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "find. I like I can't squeeze it in here."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "It's just it's not going to work. We're"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "we're going to make a film on this case"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "but we got to go and find these"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "witnesses. We got to find the crash"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "witnesses. we got to find, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "Carlos Suza and and and many others. And"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "so I said, we're going to we're going to"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "put a laser-like focus on this case and"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "we're going to make a movie just about"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "this case cuz it it warrants it."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "Marco with with the help of other"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Brazilian researchers and they found"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "Carlos Aosa and managed to get him to"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "consider coming forward. And then we met"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "with him. We we flew there, I think it"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "was in 2021 with the camera crew. and we"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "were going to be there for a month and"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "he agreed to come meet with us in Sa"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Paulo which he did and then we had"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "facetime with him and hey man can we"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "take you back for the first time in 26"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "27 years whatever it's been to the crash"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "site"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": ">> wow"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> you hadn't been there since 96"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "uh would you do you know and he agrees"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "to do it"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "so we go off to the the site and we're"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "driving around aimlessly and and you"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "know my farm just outside Vargia"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "and he can't find the bloody crash site."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "And we were looking all over in the"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "movie. It's condensed to just a few"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "minutes. I I don't could have been an"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "hour, could have been two hours. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "thinking to myself, how does this guy"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "not know where the bloody crash site is?"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "Like I mean, oh yeah, it's been over a"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "quarter of a century."}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": ">> And I'm thinking, this movie is not off"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "to a good start. M you know we hadn't"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "gotten like military acts and these"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "other people cuz you find a witness and"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "just because you find the witnesses"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "getting them to come forward on camera"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "even anonymously is nearly impossible"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "like I can't even tell you Marco Leal"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "deserves so much credit he would massage"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "contacts with us for 5 years 6 years"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "gets out there he's he he can't find it"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "like he doesn't recognize anything that"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "the topography had changed you"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "So I'm thinking to myself like, man,"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "Jesus, this is, you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "terrible. So then I had a drone and he"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "kept saying there's a white house and I"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "said, how you no, I know there's one"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "aspect of this. There was a white a"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "small white house. I took the drone up"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "in the in the sky and I remember seeing"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "this tiny little roof off in the"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "distance. Some trees had grown. I guess"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "you couldn't see it from where we were."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "And I was like, \"Okay, this could be"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "it.\" And we were and we were running"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "down to that spot and I remember my"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "cameraman, he was old older guy, Dave"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "West, he's amazing, but he was like,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "\"Slow down.\" You know, like you you got"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "to slow you got to slow down. I can't,"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "you know, I can't be I said, \"Dave, if"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "you can't, you know, this is happening."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "This is unraveling as it's unraveling"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "and you're going to have to capture the"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "moment or not.\" Like, and so we're all"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "running and we're we're just chasing"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "after him because he"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> cuz he's like, \"Stop the car. Stop the"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "car.\" You see it like panic in his eyes."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "He's like, \"Stop driving now. It's"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "here.\" and he's run and he's running"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "down to the spot and you could just see"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "like it's all happening. He's reliving"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "everything. He's looking around. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "you could just see in his face and tears"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "flowing down his face and it's a very"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "dramatic moment in the in the movie and"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "I was like"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "I was extremely grateful that it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "a reenactment, man. We we c we captured"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "it as it as it unraveled and it was just"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "amazing. But I tell you, two hours"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "prior, I was thinking the whole time"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "like, [ __ ] this is not going well."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I'm I'm glad you caught that."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "Um, it was amazing even to see him have"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "a branch"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> because the craft that crashed there was"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "like a tube like structure. It was like"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "some cigar like you know"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": ">> and you know with with a a breach in the"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "hall and it was like it was going down"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "and and he kind of did this and then he"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "went like this and I'm like cuz when"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "you're explaining with your hand the UFO"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "is here and then it went here you don't"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "really visualize it but when he had the"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "stick and he went like this and I was"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "like whoa that must be so wild to"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "witness."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> I have that stick in my office in my"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "edit room. I look at it every day."}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": ">> Yeah"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": ">> I do. And it even had like a torn bit at"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "the backside, which is exactly what the"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "craft he described. Everyone who saw the"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "craft"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": ">> either struggling in the sky."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": ">> Said that it had a tear in the back of"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "it and they had like a white vapor smoke"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "coming out."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:08", "text": ">> Yeah. The farm the farmers that live"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "nearby"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> Enrico and Oralini"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:15", "text": ">> Um the fretas"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> they they also they also said there was"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "a a breach in in the back."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": ">> Yes. And they said that they wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "have heard it or seen it had it not been"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "for the animals on their farm going."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Yeah. All the animals were going crazy."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "And so they came up, I don't know, 2:00,"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "3:00 in the morning, and they came out"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "there and they saw this cigar- shaped"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "submarine or the size of a big school"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "bus, all like aluminum cigar, aluminum"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "with a gash in the back with white"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "vapor, not like a smoke from a fire."}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "They described it as a white vapor"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "coming out the back. And and she was"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "like, I was just waiting for it to hit"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "the ground like it it was struggling to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "stay in the air"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> silently. Then we have a new witness and"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "for the first time in this cut we got"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "maps, Google maps and we did you know"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "graphics of like okay this is where this"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "person this is for this is the Orina"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "this is where the actual thing crashed"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "according to Carlos and it all made"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "perfect sense."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> Yeah of course right there it's like"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": ">> what a beautiful visualization for"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "anyone trying to piece that together"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "because if you've not been you have no"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "idea."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": ">> No and and you don't know if they're"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "going to all align. I don't know. At the"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "time it was like we got the map. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "like oh my lord."}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": ">> You guys did that in the first one with"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "the sort of suburb of you know the town."}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Yeah. The encounter where we had the"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "different blockades and we had you know"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "where the girls saw the being and"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": ">> uh but yeah to to to see all the all it"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "all map out like that like wow that's"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "exactly where the witnesses would be at"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "that angle. And so yeah that was great."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "And and we don't have to get into this"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "now, but we also make the connection for"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "the first time. We had featured, which"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "in my opinion is one of the better night"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "shots of a disc craft. And"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": ">> I want to get to that. That is Yeah. For"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "me, I mean, I was like the UFO nerd in"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "me is like,"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:03", "text": ">> dude, that's authentic."}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": ">> That's"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": ">> it. It lines up with, you know, all the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "stories you hear from uh was it Chuck"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "Clark? Um, I mean, Chuck Clark talked"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "about he had a copy of a disc, but"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. But it lines up with what"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "the stories that you hear about what he"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "saw, which is like this orange glowing"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "thing. If you look at also there's the"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "uh the guy in in Mexico who uh Carlos"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Diaz."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Carlos Diaz. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": ">> You know, his photos line up with that."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "And there's several others that really"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "uh even I I think even um Bob Lazar's"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "case when they went out to S4 on those"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "few nights to it's kind of the same"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "thing. This glowing molten thing, right?"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": ">> It's like like the skin is alive."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Like like it's roing dynamic."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": ">> Yes. Like like phosphorus on a beach."}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "The whole thing is just glowing like"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "it's all energy source or something."}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> So you know we have Carlos Daza is it"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "pronounced or Duza? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": ">> could be"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": ">> Carlos Duza to Cassa. I've heard it"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "pronounced Carlos Daza. It's Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": ">> All right. Um, we have him then after"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "that going to a gas station for coffee"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "and being accosted by a gentleman um who"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "told him basically, \"You're not to talk"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "about this and you're too shut which is"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "par for the course when it comes to the"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "UFO stuff, but exactly what happened to"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "like absolutely everybody you've talked"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "to. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:30", "text": ">> In that movie as well, they all say the"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "exact same thing, whether it was from"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "the Americans or whether it was from,"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "you know, the uh Brazilian military."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, so that happens now,"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": ">> but before so, so when Carlos was"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "driving on the freeway early in the"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "morning to go ultra light flying, um, he"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "saw in the sky was early in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "4:30, 5:00 a.m., something like this. He"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "saw that cigar- shaped craft exactly"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "like the other witness has described,"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "and he was like, \"What?\" And he was"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "thinking like"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": ">> maybe some sort of experimental craft or"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "some military secret military thing. He"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "didn't know what it was, but he was"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "like, \"Clearly those guys at are in"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "trouble. They're in trouble and it's"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "going down.\""}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> Pilot to pilot. He was like,"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": ">> \"Yeah.\" So, he got off the freeway and"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "he saw it just crash into the ground."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "And he came up there and he was"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "thinking, \"I'm going to help the pilots."}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "I'm going to He never once thought"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "extraterrestrial. He never thought UFO.\""}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "He was just like, \"I got to help.\" And"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "he arrived at the scene and he said"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "there was a half a piece of the cigar-"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "shaped craft about the half the size of"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "a large school bus intact. And then the"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "other half was scattered over a very"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "large area, bigger than a football field"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "of small sort of like aluminum pieces of"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "different shapes, torn. And um and he"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "said he got out of the car and the smell"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "was so overwhelming like of like ammonia"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "and and sulfur. Like he said he grabbed"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "his shirt and put it over his face. He"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "just couldn't believe how strong his"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "eyes were watering. there was some sort"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "of weird chemical acid on the on the"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "grass that was burning the grass and he"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "picked up one of these little pieces."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "He's just scratching his head. He's so"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "baffled and he said he held it in his"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "hands and he said [clears throat] it was"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "like so light that he couldn't really"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "feel it in his hands and he could"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "crumple it up and then when he let it go"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "it would reform into the shape that it"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "was in when he picked it up. And this"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "was happening and he's just ba he's"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "baffled as what you know what is this?"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "And that's when military trucks from the"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "base Eza had come in from the opposite"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "direction that he arrived and they"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "threatened him at gunpoint to leave. And"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "that at which point he got in his car,"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "he left. And then 10 15 minutes later"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "while he was he stopped just to gather"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "himself at a at a a gas station cafe and"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "he was having a coffee and that's when"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "these men rolled up in suits and"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "threatened him."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": ">> I I had forgotten that he had touched"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "the craft. He had a piece in his hand."}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": ">> Yes. and resembles a lot of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "the Roswell lore as well about the"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "memory metal or whatever."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": ">> Unbelievable. And then the smell,"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "obviously, the tying,"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": ">> you know, the string that ties this all"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "together is this overwhelming smell of"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "ammonia and sulfur,"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": ">> which is also comically the only thing"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "that made it to this article in the"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "United States about the stinky aliens."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "I'm going to say one more thing, and"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "this is something that I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "recently, is I'm asking all the"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "witnesses, the firsthand witnesses,"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "people like Carlos and Dr. Etolo, which"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "we'll get to later, if they're willing"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "to take a public lie detector test, and"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "they're all immediately without a"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "moment's hesitation. Yes."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> With my right hand on a Bible, I will."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> And if there's anybody else watching"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "this that, you know, obviously this"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "might be translated into many different"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "languages on YouTube, they do that"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "automatically now. And so if there's"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "anyone out there in Virginia who has any"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "more information about any of this, I"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "think it's good to put it at the top of"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "the episode."}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": ">> Can I give you my Proton uh texted to"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "you and you can put it across the"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "screen? Absolutely. Reach out to us."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": ">> Yep. Feel free to reach out to James if"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "you have any, you know, information on"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "this that you think could aid in his"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "research and into the investigation of"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "what happened,"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": ">> particularly on the American side."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, if you're over"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "here and you have any information about"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "it. Oh, let's go."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> Yeah, that would be interesting."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> We'll get it out. want to hear from you."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "[gasps]"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:16", "text": ">> Uh yeah, cuz that ties everything"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "together and we'll get to that foyer"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "request uh as well."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> Um so then after this happens, this"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "military blockade starts happening"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "around town. And this is a town that's"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "not familiar with this type of activity."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> It's about a week later."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": ">> Yeah. And Oh, is it a week later?"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": ">> Several days later. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": ">> Wow. Okay. So, the crash retrieval"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> Whoa. I didn't realize it was that long"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "after. I thought it was immediately."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> No, not immediately. It was several"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "days. Yeah. And I know it's really it's"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "a it's a head scratcher because you know"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "there's"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> that mean these aliens were running"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "around for a few days."}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": ">> There's all there's all this speculation"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "as to how they got from that location to"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "town and there's some waterways when we"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "looked at overhead. There's some"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "waterways. So possibility of waterways"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "that would lead to where they were"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "spotted in town. But"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> again, this is speculation."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. But all you can do is"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": ">> some people say there was a pod, an"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "escape pod. There's that's that's one,"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "you know, theory. Nobody really knows."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "And and I talked to some of the most"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "leading researchers in Brazil that have"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "been scratching their heads on this"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "case. Was there other were there other"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "crashes during that time? You know, I"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "don't think anyone has a definitive"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "answer to that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": ">> But the the most plausible according to"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "everyone that I've talked to is that"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "they managed to get their way. You they"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "were hiding out"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": ">> by the water. Through the water"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:35", "text": ">> through the water through the waterways."}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": ">> that's speculation. It is speculation"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "obviously but also you know because"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "later on we'll encounter this family an"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "entire family by the way who's got"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "nothing to gain everything to lose"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> uh that came out and said you know there"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "was this disc that was spinning"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:52", "text": ">> didn't want to go on camera"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:54", "text": ">> no they were just but they were so"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "excited to talk about it finally and"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "then other people in town who also"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "admitted to the same thing that there"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "was this reconnaissance effort that"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "seemed to everybody said the same thing"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "it looked like it was looking for"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "something and that's just like something"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "that I suppose you'd have to experience"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "to understand cuz I'm like how could you"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "determine but if you look at the pattern"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "something's doing you're like it's"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "looking for something and not only that"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": ">> but this is something else it just like"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "I I got goosebumps just thinking about"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "it because when we were at their house I"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "had flown the drone up prior to that"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "really high to get a really good you"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "know I put the camera straight down I"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "really want to get a lay of the land I"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "want to see where the where the creature"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "was allegedly captured by Eric Lopes and"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "Marco Shrezy I want to see where the"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "girls encounter the creature like you"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "know in proximity to where it was"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "captured and in one shot"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "let's just say you know okay for several"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "block area you know you got like this so"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "the girls see it here captured here just"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "a few blocks away and then five blocks"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "away is the the family that we"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "interviewed the entire family the mother"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "the husband the daughter they were right"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "here and that craft was flying exactly"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "over the area where all this went down."}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> that was like"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> So whatever your drone was seeing was"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "what the craft was seeing essentially."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:12", "text": ">> Yeah. And not only that, but it was"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, it makes perfectly"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "good sense. If if there was a a search"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "and rescue effort, I know it sounds"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "crazy, but if there was an"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "extraterrestrial or whatever search and"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "rescue effort, that's exactly where it"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "would have been.\""}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": ">> Yep. And and I think at this point with"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "the amount of evidence you brought"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "forward, it's safe to assume that that"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "is a possibility."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> Extreme possibility. And that's getting"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "into that video footage that you and I"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "could talk about a little later. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "sir."}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> That's impressive."}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": ">> It really is. Um, so this military"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "blockade happens a week later, which is"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "wild. Um, this town smells it's the"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "smell is being carried out. It's"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "probably being talked about by everyone."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "So, at which point, everyone's pretty on"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "board that something weird is happening."}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "In fact, the news crew then gets alerted"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "about, you know, hey, maybe we should"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "investigate this blockade. First time"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "that we have all three reporters that"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "were there going on camera for me. I'd"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "heard about I'd gotten one, nay, but not"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "the two others. And they went on camera"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "for the first time basically saying that"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "they were making inquiries. They were"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "stopped at the military blockade, but"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "their other two had gone to a military"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "base and were questioning. And they said"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "to the news reporters, \"You ask one more"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "question and you're going to jail.\""}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> Yeah. What if you ask one more question?"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:36", "text": ">> Their reporters are doing their job."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:38", "text": ">> And they went on camera and said,"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "\"Yeah.\" They said, \"One more question,"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "you're going to jail.\""}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> And that's um like you said, it's never"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "happened before. It's never happened"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "after."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:45", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": ">> it was serious. And they kept saying,"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "you know, um national security, national"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "security. And he's he's trying to ask"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "just one question. And they were"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "threatened to be"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": ">> whether balloons are not national"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "security. Yeah. And neither is the Gene."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "There was there was some effort to like"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "ride off what the girls had seen at some"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "uh gentleman in town, which I've seen"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "him multiple times. He's got a birth"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "defect. And they're like, \"Oh, it's Mene"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "or something like this.\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "\"Oh my god, that's a that's so absurd"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "that that everyone's seen him. Everyone"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "knows him,"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> you know, and they just try to, you"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "know, they were just throwing whatever"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "they could against the wall to see what"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "would stick.\" And of course, nothing."}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "And here we are almost 30 years later."}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "Yeah, the skeptics of this case, after"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "watching and reading through the autopsy"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "report and hearing the the witness"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "testimonies, the skeptics of this case"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "look more insane to me than any"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "testimony I've ever heard about any"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "alien being. Um they there's this is by"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "far one-sided here. Like I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "anybody's skeptical, I'm skeptical of"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "them and their motives now. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "Because if you're coming up to me after"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "watching this, reading through the"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "documents, and looking at all of the"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "evidence that you've brought forward"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "over the last 15 years, if you're going"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "to sit here and tell me that this didn't"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "happen,"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "I'm skeptical that you're probably part"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "of the cover up. That's where I'm at"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "with this case now. And I don't say that"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "lightly."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:10", "text": ">> You'd have to be like,"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": ">> \"No, no, you'd have to be absolutely in"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "on a coverup.\" chief of police, two"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "forensic pathologists, head"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "neurosurgeon, guy that ran three"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "different hospitals in the area, the"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "head neurosurgeon, still working there"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": ">> Yeah, he's risking everything."}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": ">> Everything to lose and nothing to gain"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "by coming forward. It's like plus the"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "chief of police,"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:32", "text": ">> plus the military actually drove it,"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "plus the three girls that came face to"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "face with it in broad daylight 10 feet"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": ">> So overwhelming. the guy that the the"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "the guy that took the X-rays. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "there was so much evidence, so much"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "compelling firsthand eye eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "testimony. Then you got the video of a"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "craft matching the description in and"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "around Oh, yeah. It's still a little to"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "the south, but at the same year,"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:56", "text": ">> it's just oh my gosh. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:56", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:40:58", "text": ">> incredible."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": ">> How many millions did everybody get paid"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "to be on camera for this uh documentary,"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "James? That's what we all really want to"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:04", "text": ">> I know, right?"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> Especially the neurosurgeon. Can you"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "imagine? I tell people"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> he's a neurosurgeon. He makes enough"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "money."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:10", "text": ">> I could give you I could give you an"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "hourong story behind every interview and"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "how it came about and how difficult it"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "was to obtain and"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": ">> people are terrified all these years"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "later still you know but there are power"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "in numbers and and I encourage people to"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "come forward and join this movement."}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": ">> Let's talk about Valkyia, Lilianne and"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "Katya."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:28", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> The the three girls. Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:31", "text": ">> Who witnessed this being."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:33", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": ">> You covered this in the first one. We"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "revisit in the second one probably some"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "of the most compelling eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "testimony to a nonhuman alien being we"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "can say"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "um you know you spent a lot of time with"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "them"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> you spent time with their mother"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> as well"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": ">> Marta"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:56", "text": ">> yeah Marta who you know firmly"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": ">> uh yeah there was a uh anyway come to me"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "a second Marta was the sister of the"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "deceased military officer"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:02", "text": ">> oh yes that's right"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:04", "text": ">> um her name would come to me I I love"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "her very much. I was just with her just"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "a few months ago."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": ">> But she, you know, uh, firmly refused to"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": ">> accept a bribe,"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": ">> accept a bribe from American gentlemen"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": ">> that said, \"Hey, look, we can we can"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "give you this money and you can just go"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "live a life. All we ask is that you just"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "go without asking questions.\" And she's"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "like, \"Not if it means calling my my"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "daughters here liars.\""}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": ">> Yeah. So she said that there were I"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "think there was three guys, two in suits"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "that remained silent. The third one that"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "spoke Portuguese with a with a heavy"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "accent, called them foreigners, uh"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "offered American dollars, a briefcase"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "filled that they could leave the"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "country, live out their life. All they"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "had to do, all she had to do was get her"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "daughter to say they were lying. It was"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "some kind of deranged animal or dog or"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "something like that that she refused to"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "accept. And Louisa is her name. and"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "she's to this day, you know, struggles"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "financially and and and uh she was like,"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "I there's no amount of money that's ever"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "going to you're going to give me that's"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "going to make me call my own daughters"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "liars."}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "Leave my house or I'm calling the"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "police."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:12", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> In fact, she was one of the first people"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "after decades of hearing these so-called"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "men in black and I would touch on it"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "maybe lightly a little here in the"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "middle of there. I went all in on her. I"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "was like, I I looked her in the eyes."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "This woman's telling the truth. And"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "there's so many others that had those"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "encounters. In fact, a lot of people in"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "town"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "up and left."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": ">> Oh, I mean, Pacini disappeared for the"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "better part of 20 years. Pacini was one"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "of the lead researchers."}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:37", "text": ">> And if his accountant, he's willing to"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "take a lie detector test with his right"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "hand on a Bible. He's seen the video of"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "the creature. He's So, Pacini was one of"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "the lead researchers. Cladio Kovo,"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "Pakuchini, Uber Dejada Rodriguez, um"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Marco Bati, AJ Gavard, but primarily"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "Pacini Uber, they were really deep in"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "it. And Uber Dejara Rodriguez who was a"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "very well-known lawyer in the state I"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "minus Jis the state of Minis in"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "Virginia. But in any case, Pacini"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "according to, you know, I just spoke to"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "him, he's working with us now. He said"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "that uh he was fired at. He was under a"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "lot of pressure. Uber Dejara kind of"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "just went quiet. Um Clai Kovo died. Um"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "AJ Javar died. Um Marco Patise still"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "talks about it. But um and of course"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "Marco Leel is working non-stop. But but"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "according to Pakuchini, he was he was"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "shot at. He was threatened and he"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "disappeared for the better. He was like"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "I just need to let everything cool off."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "He went live with his mother for like I"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "think 20 years."}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> now he's getting back in involved with"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "the case again."}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": ">> But even a lot of civilians were just"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "like up and moved who've lived there"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "their whole lives. Like you mentioned in"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "the first documentary, there was like"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "their neighbors were like, \"Yeah, he"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "just up and left and there was like"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "there was um"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:53", "text": ">> people just went quiet.\""}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": ">> Yeah, people just went quiet and I'm"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "sure people accepted some bribes and um"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": ">> we had something really weird happened"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "to us while we were there as well, which"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "I can go into detail if you want, but"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> Well, let's go. Well, so"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "one thing that I've learned in this"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "field is that when you like don't"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "sometimes when you really want to you"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "obviously want to get a a witness on"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "camera, don't talk about going on camera"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "at first. Just say, \"Hey, you know what?"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Can we just meet? Can I just can I get"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "you a coffee? Can we have dinner?\" Meet"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "with them. Look them in the eyes. Get to"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "know each other. There's nothing like"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "FaceTime, right? And get to know each"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "other a little bit. And then if that"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "individual decides or is contemplating"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "on going on camera, maybe under the"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "right conditions or maybe hide their"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "face, whatever, whatever, don't wait."}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "Don't wait one day. Don't wait one hour."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "Like, if they're willing to do it, go."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "And I'll tell you, with Military X, it"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "was like he he literally said to me"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "early on, \"There's all the money in the"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "world. I'm never going to come forward.\""}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "So, hey, I I understand. Can we just get"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "together?"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "We got together, FaceTime. He had a"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "incredible time. We talked about family"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "relationships. I talked about my father"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "with his uh struggle with multiple"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "sclerosis. Just kind of getting to know"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "each other. He talked about his wife and"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "becoming a dad and all these, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "things. Kind of get to know each other a"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "And um and then we kind of got into his"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "involvement in an official capacity for"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "the military, driving the creature, blah"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "blah blah, seeing it in the hospital,"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Seeing a seeing a feat,"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:35", "text": ">> right? Exactly. And uh and and yeah,"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "maybe maybe more. But um"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:41", "text": ">> uh he"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "uh he started to waver like maybe he"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "would meet with us and maybe under the"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "right circumstance he would go on"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "camera. And I was, let's just say it was"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "a Sunday. And I said to Marco, and he"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "was like, \"Well, maybe Tuesday, maybe"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "Wednesday.\" And I said, \"How about right"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "now?\" \"Well, I don't know.\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "Marco and I I didn't even shave, brush"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "my I don't even think I brush my teeth."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "I said, \"We're getting in the car and"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "we're going right now cuz I know I've"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "been here before.\""}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": ">> Yeah. This is This is gone."}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": ">> This is Yeah. So, we go. Anyway, we"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "ended up getting him on camera from the"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "back. disguised as a voice, you know,"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "and uh I think it was like the next day"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "or maybe the day after we were going to"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "meet with a gentleman that was also"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "involved in the um transportation or he"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "was he went out from military base. He"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "went to one of the hospitals, allegedly"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "had shot some video and we were going to"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "make an introduction to that individual."}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "I think it was the next day or the or"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "the day after and Marco was going to"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "pose as the cousin of Military X. I was"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "not going to be invited, but hey,"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "whatever. We'll take what we can get."}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:48", "text": ">> Uh, they got a phone call. Well, so"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "Military X got a phone call and it was"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "from the base and they said, \"Hey, how"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "you doing, so and so?\" And"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "um, yeah, family doing good. Oh, good,"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "good, good. You still living at this"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "address? Excellent. Excellent. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "good. Hey, um there's an American"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "filmmaker poking around and we had just"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "gotten him on camera. There's an"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "American filmmaker poking around. You by"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "chance meet with him, you know. Okay."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "Good, good, good. Yeah. Excellent. Well,"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "listen, you take care and glad the"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "family's doing well. Happy to hear"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "you're still living at the same address."}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "You take care now."}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": ">> And uh and then summoned the individual"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "that we were going to meet into the"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "base. So that individual that we were"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "going to meet with the next day. My"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "point is this. Had I had I waited till"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "Tuesday or Wednesday, I would have never"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "got we would have never gotten that"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "interview."}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:40", "text": ">> No, you guys were chasing the same lead."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": ">> We were chasing and it and had I had 24"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "more hours, we probably would have seen"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "the footage."}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> I dude, you have no idea. Like it's like"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "a bar of soap in the bathtub, you know?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "You just you grab it. And I say to"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "anybody out there who's feeling"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "frustrated because they want to see the"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "footage, there's nobody on the planet"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "Earth that wants that more than I do."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "And there's nothing nothing that I'm not"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "trying to get my hands on it. And I just"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "feel like at this point"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "if anybody's out there in possession of"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "of this footage, post it anonymously,"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "you know, put it out there for free. I"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "don't care who it comes from, where it"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "comes from. Like, well, of course, if I"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "want to be fake, but um"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:21", "text": ">> yeah, speaking of which, there is a"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "video circulating uh that claims to be"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Everything I've seen"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:28", "text": ">> the real being it's that's completely"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "fake. Uh, do not send James that Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "footage."}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": ">> Yeah, I will. Uh, so I what I would do"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "is if I get the video for free, I'm"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "going to give it away for free. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "going to charge anything for it. If I"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "have to purchase the video to recoup, to"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "pay whoever back, I I would figure that"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "out. But I would give it away for free."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "Okay. I'm not trying to make money on"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "this video."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:48", "text": ">> I I'd like the world to see it. I think"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "the world should see it."}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": ">> Yep. Um,"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "uh, I would have all the firsthand"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "eyewitnesses take a look at it first."}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "Hey, is this what you saw? Does this"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "look real? Do we know the providence of"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "this? Like that would do the best one"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "can, right?"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's out there"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:07", "text": ">> and Well, there are Yeah. So, there are"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "multiple videos out there. And the"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "reason why I know that is because I've"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "talked to people that have seen it. The"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "photographs. I actually talked to the"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "chief of police, Marco Le, and I went"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "and doorsteped him not too long ago."}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "And he admits on camera he's like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "yeah, there are multiple multiple"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "photos.\" Because you know the fire"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "department who's also part of the"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "military, you know, the police"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "department is also part of the military."}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": ">> They my understanding is they took"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "photos. They captured one took photos."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "They captured one."}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": ">> Uh the doctors in both hospitals,"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "Humanitas and Regional Hospital took"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "video. They had cameras. For instance,"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "there was specific surgery that they"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "would do, brain surgery, and they would"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "videotape these procedures. So, the"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "cameras had, sorry, the doctors had"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "cameras readily available at the"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "hospitals to record various procedures."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "They also had resources to have that."}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": ">> Um, then the military shot video"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "[clears throat] people in, you know, so"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "the military got video. I'm sure the"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "Americans got video. I'm uh the fire"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "department, the police department, and"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "the doctors all got photos and/or"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "videos. How do I know that? Because I've"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "talked to people that have seen it."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "Multiple different sources, civilians,"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "doctors, military that have seen the"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "videos. So, we know there's at least"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "five different sources of video and"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "photographic evidence of this. It's just"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "a matter of us getting our sticky little"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "fingers on it."}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:31", "text": ">> Can you imagine"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "this happening in today's day and age?"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:32", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I know."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": ">> That's disclosure."}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:35", "text": ">> Yeah, I know."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": ">> You thought about that? Of course,"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": ">> if this happens since the iPhone came"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "out,"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:42", "text": ">> this is disclosure."}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "Believe me, I know."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:48", "text": ">> But the further we get into technology,"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "you know, there's this one pocket"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "because now we're getting into AI stuff"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "and so, you know, if if another one does"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "happen, obviously the biggest argument"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "is going to be it's all AI generated,"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:51:59", "text": ">> Of course."}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": ">> But yeah. Yeah. But what can you do?"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": ">> Yeah, but this is on film."}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, This would be"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": ">> this would be on video digital or"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "photograph would be filmed."}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": ">> Um so the fire brigade ends up capturing"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "the first being."}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:16", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": ">> Allegedly, right? With this net and"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "there was even a witness to this and he"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "kind of saw it from afar and they had"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "something and they told him it's nothing"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "to worry about. It's just an animal."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "They've captured a small animal. And he"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "says that animal screamed like a child"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:31", "text": ">> like a little baby."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": ">> Yeah. It's interesting because"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "and even Marco Shrezy was involved in"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "the capture. Nobody knew what this"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "creature was like. Like nobody was like"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "calling it I mean alien in the sense"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "that it was foreign like it was a"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "creature"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:48", "text": ">> a creature. Like people were even"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "throwing rocks at it like you know they"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "were scared of it. Like what is this"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "thing? Some people thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "devil you know cuz it had these red eyes"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": ">> but people didn't think like I mean as"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "far as I could tell no one was like oh"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "yeah this was an extraterrestrial. No."}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "Nobody said that."}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Or ultraterrestrial. It's an"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "ultraterrestrial. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> nobody said that. They didn't know what"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "the hell that was. And I'd heard stories"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "of people throwing rocks at it"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": ">> on the outskirts of town and and going"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "into this forest. They were scared of it"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "and throwing rocks. And that's when the"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "the uh earlier that day is when the fire"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "department captured it with a net. And"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "that's according to some of the"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "witnesses that went on camera uh back in"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "96 said that it cried like a little baby"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "when was in captivity."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "But there are up to and I don't know for"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "sure because we only focused on two"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "because we only had really good"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "compelling"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "eyewitnesses on that. But there are"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "possibly up to five."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Up to five beings. Um but"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "for you know for in this documentary we"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "address I think three of them right. One"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "alive, one dead, then a third one kind"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "of missing at one point. Right. That's"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "what the uh the police the police chief"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:59", "text": ">> he saw a creature under the under a net"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "or under a blanket or a canvas of sorts."}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "Um and then he talked about the uh"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "military activity that was going on as"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "he said he saw more brass than he's ever"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "seen in his in his career uh there. And"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "um he said rumor had it that uh one"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "alive captured stayed alive, one dead"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "and then one uh got away."}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:19", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": ">> something like that. And that was Pedro"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "Luis Aguiar, the retired police chief."}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:23", "text": ">> Yes, sir. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:25", "text": ">> And we doorsteped him. We've been trying"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "to get to him for years."}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": ">> He did not want to talk prior to that."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:33", "text": ">> He would be like,"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "you know, talk a little bit, then we'll"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "do a meeting, you know, maybe I'll go on"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "camera. And then he kept like"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "disappearing and not returning our"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "calls. And we'd show up at his house,"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "knock on his door, went on for years."}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "And um we almost got to him on the first"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "round. And then he was like, I'm too"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "because he was like, okay, you can come"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "by my house, give us the address. And"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "then he just stopped returning our"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "calls. And this went on for several"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "years. And then finally, just recently,"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "a few months ago, we went, well, it's"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "funny, actually, we were going from Sao"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "Paulo up to Venia, which about a 6-h"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "hour drive, depending on how many times"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "you stop, whatever. And on the way"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "there, we took a slight deviation. We're"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "going to stop off at his house, and I"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "think it was maybe like 5:30 or"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "something. We were a little bit hungry."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:16", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": ">> And we had a mission. Our mission was to"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "go to his house and then get to Varia,"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "but for some reason I was like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "let's stop. There's this little pizza"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "joint and we stopped there. I was going"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "to get a quick slice of pizza and I"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "ended up meeting the owner was like,"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "\"Oh, where are you guys from?\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "and start talking. He was speaking"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "Portuguese, but he had translator. And"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "uh and he was like, \"I'm going to order"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "a big pizza. Come on. You guys are"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "having a having a glass of wine. You"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "know, you're going to stick around, you"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "And so reluctantly we we had dinner"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "there and it took about you know six at"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "least 60 possibly 90 minutes. So now"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "we're arriving later than we anticipated"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "and there were half the crew were like"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "you know oh gosh we had a mission we"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "shouldn't have sight you know as it"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "turned out it was perfect cuz when we"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "arrived he had just gotten home with his"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "family his wife and his kid."}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:03", "text": ">> You would have missed him."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": ">> We would have missed him. Yeah we would"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "have missed him. So, we got the only on"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "camera interview, you know, with with"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "him talking about the incident. And we"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "asked him like, \"Why are you\" And it was"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "a slow process, too, cuz we just got our"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "foot in the door in the house. We had a"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "mic and we went in there and then why"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "you coming forward? He's like, \"You're"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "investigating. You're investigating"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "something that and taking it seriously"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "that that I participated in.\""}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:25", "text": ">> Yeah. And he said it was real."}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Notoriia is uh reality or uh"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "it's not a story."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:34", "text": ">> Yeah. It's not history. It's not it's"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "not it's not a story, it's history."}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:37", "text": ">> It's history. Thank you. Yeah, exactly."}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "Not a story, it's history."}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:41", "text": ">> And um I don't know if you feel"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "comfortable mentioning what happened to"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "him now that he's since"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:46", "text": ">> I don't know the details, but we just"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "found out yesterday that he died"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:52", "text": ">> that he passed. Do you think that that"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "might have been part of the reason why"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "he felt it was important to come"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "forward? Maybe he had some type of"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "inkling, even subtle or or overt."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": ">> God, it's hard to say. You know, one"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "thing is there was a couple of very"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "indelible moments in the filming of of"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "Moment of both before and now. And one"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "of them was"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "his wife and I think his wife is his"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "wife. Can you see his wife in there at"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "all?"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:17", "text": ">> Um I I I don't remember."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:21", "text": ">> Okay. I I should remember, but I was"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "there and at one point because we got"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "his son and him answered the door. his"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "son was like 12 or 13"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "and uh we got foot in the door, started"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "talking to him and then I think I had a"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "mic on me and then they had the sound"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "guy in the car outside"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "and uh and then I said, \"Hey, at some"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "point, do you mind if we bring a camera"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "in here a little? Just, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "ease our way in.\" Oh, okay. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "fine. That's fine. Then the camera guy"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "came in and then we just started to"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "slowly get an interview with him on"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "camera. and it was all unfolding very"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "organically and happening and I was like"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "this former chief of police wasn't sure"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "exactly what he was going to say but at"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "one point more than one point several"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "points I'd looked I looked over at his"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "wife"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "and his son was sitting kind of close to"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "him but his wife was sitting at the"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "table and he was sitting on the couch"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "and I swear to you I'm not making this"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "up her eyeballs were like"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "like like push like her eyes were so"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "open her eyes and she's looking at her"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "husband and she's not blinking. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "looking at Dave going, \"Dave, are you"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "are you getting the wife?\" Like, \"Are"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "you getting the wife?\" \"Yeah, yeah, I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "getting the wife.\" I was like, cuz I she"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "was like"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "looking at him nonstop like,"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": ">> \"What do you think? Why Why do you think"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "she was she like"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:43", "text": ">> like, \"What are you doing?\" Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "exactly. Or cuz I was talking about the"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "photograph that I heard he had."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": ">> I was pressuring him very hard. Like I"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "wouldn't stop. Do you think he had is"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:56", "text": ">> Well, he did have it and he had actually"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "admitted to at one point having it and"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "then I said I kept hammering him and he"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "would change the topic and I would go"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "right back to that photograph. I was"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "like, \"This person said they saw it and"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "this person saw it and this is what it's"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "in it. There's one alive, one cat, you"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "know, blah blah blah. There's a military"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "and maybe a fireman in the background,"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "you know, and uh and the wife was just"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "looking at her husband like this. I"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "swear all my [ __ ] life"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:19", "text": ">> trying to like say you better not say"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": ">> Like just I don't know. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "what. But she was like this."}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:25", "text": ">> Well, I mean that"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:26", "text": ">> looking at him"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:27", "text": ">> for me. That's the look of someone who's"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "also seen the photo."}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": ">> And I was looking at her like this and"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "and I I was [clears throat] like, \"God,"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "this this is crazy. Is she telling him"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "to shut his mouth? Is she shocked that"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "we're there? Like what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "this?\" And um and then he said when I"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "kept hammering him on the photo, I have"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "this all on video. He said uh there are"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "some things within the police department"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "or the military or police department or"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "something that uh that will remain uh"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "like secret will remain we won't"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "disclose something like this"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:00", "text": ">> why"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:01", "text": ">> something like this"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": ">> why"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:04", "text": ">> I you know I mean it's the holy grail"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "right"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:07", "text": ">> it is the holy grail it's it's the holy"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "grail of humanity"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": ">> yeah it's the holy grail and so um but"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "yeah so that was and then I found out he"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "died I don't know the circumstances I"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "don't know how he died, but he was"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "pretty healthy. He had some definitely"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "had some what looked like um what's"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:22", "text": ">> Arthritis."}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Ex really bad arthritis. And his"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "fingers, his fa his his hands were"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "excuse me, really kind of deformed and"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "yeah. Um but his he was energetic and he"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "was alert and he was coherent and I"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "didn't think he was going to die like"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "within months of that interview, but but"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "he's gone. But, you know, by the time"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "your audience uh sees this, I would have"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "been back with a team again to Brazil."}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "We're meeting with a bunch more doctors."}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": ">> Go through the shoe box of photos that"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "they have in their closet."}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": ">> Whatever. Whatever we got to do. We're"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "meeting with the mayor. We're having"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "like screening. This is in my humble"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "opinion and I could always be wrong and"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "I've been wrong in the past, but I feel"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "like this is the beginning of the"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "beginning in the in the sense that it we"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "might reach critical mass and and more"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "people because I'm I'm trying to find"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "out uh doctors at Humanitus Hospital cuz"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "that's what we're missing right now. And"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "I'm in the inner circle with the with"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "the doctors, with the forensic"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "pathologists, with the neurosurgeons,"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "right? and we're meeting their wives."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "We're going into their homes. We're"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "having dinner with them. We're having"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "glasses of wine together. We're"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "listening to"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:34", "text": ">> it's going to come out"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": ">> music. We're getting to know each other."}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "We're spending time at their local"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "restaurants, meeting the communities,"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "you know what I mean? Like really"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "getting that trust and that that"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "camaraderie and friendship, laughing"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "together, singing together, playing"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "music together, and this is all"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "happening and starting to feel"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "comfortable. Like last time, one of the"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "first times I'd met with the forensic"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "pathologist, he was extremely guarded"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "and he runs I don't know like like there"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "were even times when we were"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "communicating back and forth and he's"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "like your communication is too fast. I"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "need a video that's you that it's really"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "you like paranoid. So I I took a video"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "immediately in the states and I said it"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "to him like this is me. I'm here in my"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "car. We're this is me. This is not"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "somebody else posing as me. So, um that"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "trust and that friendship is uh is is is"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "happening and again power in numbers,"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:30", "text": ">> Absolutely. Um all right, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "go now to Marco Chariz and Eric Lopes."}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "These two gentlemen were working for the"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "military and they were in essentially"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "patrolling the area. and that evening of"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "this uh barricade happening and that"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "evening where the first creature was"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "apprehended by what seems to be like the"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "fire department or something."}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> That was in the morning and then that"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "was in the morning earlier that day."}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:55", "text": ">> Yeah. And then later in the evening they"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "drive and come across this creature just"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "kind of crossing the road."}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:02:59", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "you know as brave as he is Marcoy gets"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "out and apprehends this being with his"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "bare hands."}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:12", "text": ">> Okay. So, we'll back up just a just a"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "moment. Sure. So, we have testimony from"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "like the local newsmen. We have"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "testimony from residents in the area"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "that came upon that blockade, that"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "military blockade at gunpoint,"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "threatened with national security, like"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "not messing around. You are not going"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "beyond this point. And if you look at"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "where the blockade is, which we did,"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "it's right in the area where the girls"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "came and encountered this this creature,"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "this crazy creature, which we go into"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "detail with. in broad daylight, 10 feet"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "away, up against that center block wall."}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "And then just two blocks away, a couple"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "of hours later, same blockade around"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "that area is where the capture occurred."}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "Now, there were two military officers."}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "One was on duty that night. His name was"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "Eric Lopes. I think it was P2, but any"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "case, military police. And and my"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "understanding was is that they were"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "giving he was given orders that to go"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "out and find something unusual, some"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "sort of creature, a wild animal,"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "something didn't really didn't say,"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "\"Hey, there's a live alien walking"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "around. Go grab it.\" You know, it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:12", "text": ">> And that was the reason for the blockade"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "essentially."}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": ">> That was the reason for the blockade."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "And so, uh, so Eric calls his really"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "good buddy, uh, Marco Shrez, who's also"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "a police military police, but he was off"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "duty that night, but he was like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "I got this crazy like assignment."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "thought, \"You want to join me? We can go"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "out together.\" And so he jumps in the"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "car and off the two of them went. And lo"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "and behold, right at dusk, he's the this"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "this creature ran across the road right"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "in front of him, just a couple blocks"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "away from where the girls are, just a"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "few hours later. And Marco Shre,"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "23-year-old,"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "super fit u military guy, without a"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "moment's hesitation, without, you know,"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "any concern for his own safety, just"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "leaps out the back of the car. the the"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "the passenger seat of the car and grabs"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "the creature. All right. My"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "understanding was is that he put it on"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "his lap in the back seat and in the"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "process of grabbing it."}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:08", "text": ">> We'll get to that. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": ">> Okay. I won't. Okay. So, and then they"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "take it to a clinic and one of the"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "doctors apparently came out to greet"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "them in the car and and took one look at"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "that creature and was like, \"Get that"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "thing out of here. I don't know what"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "that is, but it ain't coming in my"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "clinic.\""}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:25", "text": ">> And it smells."}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And so they take it to regional"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "hospital and that's where and and funny"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "enough I was just I was just at regional"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "hospital. Okay. Just a few weeks ago."}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": ">> They have a plaque out front to find"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "like this is the hospital where a live"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "alien was brought to"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:45", "text": ">> it's all right there. All official from"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "the town"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:47", "text": ">> on the hospital"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": ">> in plain sight. I can share the picture"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "with you. That's crazy. I will."}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": ">> So and it it describes the whole thing."}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "So I go in to the reception where the"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "people going to the front and I asked"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "them all the people working there. There"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "were three. Hey, you know the the 1990s?"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is where the"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "alien was brought. And they said, I"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "swear to you, I'm not making this up."}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "Like they said, oh yeah, we brought the"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "alien was brought in around the back."}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "They didn't bring it through the front"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "cuz it was scary. We brought it was"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "brought in the back. I was like, you got"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "to be kidding. They said, \"No, in fact,"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "there's a there's a a nurse practitioner"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "or something still working there that"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "was there that night.\" And we said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "can we talk to that individual?\" And the"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "other doctor that we were dealing with,"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "the neurosurgeon was working there that"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "night, but he was he was he was busy."}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "But so we got their contact information,"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "but we're only there for like 48 more"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "hours. But now we have another contact"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "of somebody who was there that night."}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "But no one's denying it. And they have a"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "big plaque right out in front. This is"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "what in plain sight."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:48", "text": ">> They're leaning into it. leaning into"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:53", "text": ">> It's uh that's it's so cool because, you"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "know, I'm reminded of like the Aztec"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "crash 1948 in Aztec, New Mexico, which"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "got covered up as a hoax almost"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "immediately. If you Google it, it's the"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "hoax at Aztec. And I I know better."}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:05", "text": ">> The military authorities were like,"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "\"This is how we do it.\""}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. The FBI covered it up."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "There was a smear campaign. Um just if"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "you if you go read anything about I know"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "there's a lot of skeptics out there"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "that'll be like, \"Chris, you're an"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "idiot. Read the article. It tells you"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "what happened. Look, I spent enough time"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "with people who've researched it for 35"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "years to know that that actually"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "happened. There's something that"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "happened there. But they were so quick"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "on covering it up. And that town, if you"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "go to Aztec now, you can't like we went"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "to all sorts of spots in that town just"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "to ask locals and they're like, \"Oh no,"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "that hoax.\" Totally different mentality."}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "Uh once the FBI got involved, but"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "anyways, I digress."}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "uh at this hospital."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "Um Marco Tresezy uh gets to this"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "hospital uh where they, you know, bring"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "the being and"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "Marco then goes home"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "and he's starting to develop this"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "sickness."}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:05", "text": ">> He's got he's got this smelly, greasy,"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "oily stuff on his skin."}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:09", "text": ">> That's right. And apparently he took"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "rubbing alcohol and he was trying to"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "wipe this stuff off. And uh within a"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "couple weeks he started to get sick."}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:22", "text": ">> And then he was admitted into uh one of"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "the hospitals al regional or humanitas."}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "I think it was maybe both. Excuse me. We"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "talked to two different doctors that"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "worked on him. One just recently but Dr."}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "Cesario. And Dr. Cesario worked on him"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "for a while and until he went into the"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "ICU and then died. But uh and it's funny"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "actually cuz Cesario,"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "Dr. Cesario was like, \"Uh, yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "you told us this happened, that we, you"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "know, captured this thing because this,"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "that, and the other thing, and he wanted"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "us to know to s cuz he was concerned for"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "his life.\" And then he goes, \"I mean,"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "according to his sister, he was"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "basically like, you know, I looked at"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "him like, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:05", "text": ">> Dr. Cesario Fittado is a cardiologist"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "for 45 years.\""}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh he's basically on camera saying"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "that uh Marco came to him"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "almost uh pleading him to help him."}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "Yeah. It seemed like and the only way"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "that Marco could help himself"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "was to say the truth because his life"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "depended on it. He wasn't going to hold"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "a national security secret and take it"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "to the He's like I want to get I want to"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "get better. So he in confidence"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:34", "text": ">> tells this doctor."}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": ">> But then so what happened? So Cesario"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "admits that on camera, but then he goes,"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "according to his sister, like we looked"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "at him like, \"Yeah, sure.\" You know,"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "anybody knows, but he said that he threw"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "the kitchen sink at him. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:49", "text": ">> That that bacterial infection didn't"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "respond."}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:52", "text": ">> Well, we'll get"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:56", "text": ">> I want to I want to get there as well."}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "So, um, here we have the autopsy report"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "because unfortunately Marco Terresy"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "ended up passing away and"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:05", "text": ">> 23 years old, perfectly healthy,"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:08", "text": ">> perfectly healthy, no, um, immune uh, no"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "no autoimmune disease um, no deficiency"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "immune wise. And, uh, his sister,"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "you know, was obviously demanding um,"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:18", "text": ">> and his wife."}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:20", "text": ">> Who is pregnant."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:21", "text": ">> That's right. Right. And they were"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "demanding and she's only she's only done"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "one interview, the wife, right?"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:26", "text": ">> Yeah. With uh Yeah. We're we're trying"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "to track her down again, but she did an"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "interview with Dr. Roger Lear in 2002."}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> That's right. And uh"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": ">> hell of a time fighting to get the"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "autopsy report. The reason for that"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": ">> could not get it. Could not get the And"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "even even the reason for death was uh"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "general infection cause unknown. It"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "wasn't"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:45", "text": ">> Yeah. They had apparently according to"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "them there were pages missing and there"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "was like all this blockage and then they"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "wanted to charge them money and it was"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "like you know the sister was going after"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "it the wife was going after it. They"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "ultimately did get"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": ">> uh an autopsy report with but it was"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "missing stuff"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:00", "text": ">> but now we have the autopsy report."}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:02", "text": ">> Yes. Where did you get this"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:06", "text": ">> with the comments directly from the guy"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "who owned the company IPD and that's Dr."}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "um Janini. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:11", "text": ">> Dr. Janini founded IPD and you should"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "look up the acronym for that."}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": ">> Jao Baptista Makuko Janini."}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:20", "text": ">> The pathologist who's done folks, get"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "over 50,000 autopsies."}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:27", "text": ">> Yeah. In his company,"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:28", "text": ">> they've done over 50,000"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:30", "text": ">> since the 60s"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:34", "text": ">> autopsies."}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "And in quotes, I've never seen a case"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "like this. Let that sink in for a"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "second. This is unique. This is one of a"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "kind. This has never happened and it"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "just so happens to be from an alleged"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "encounter. You understand?"}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:49", "text": ">> Um we ask him on camera."}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:54", "text": ">> And like what like give me an assessment"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "like what get give me your bottom line"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "here. And if you know and he says from"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "all I can gather that bacteria came from"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "under the nail of the ET scratched him"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "under the armpit right here and it"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "killed him."}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "essentially. So here is we're going to"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "go through the autopsy comments a little"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "bit here. So we had the uh the cir uh we"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "had the necropsy report the"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "considerations the conclusions and"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "everything and we had it translated and"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "it says based on um the medical findings"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "and background information. Uh this is a"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "consolidated and this is from that"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "doctor a consolidated English"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "translation that maintains factual"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "accuracy while making the content"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "accessible. So the medical finding"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "summary uh multi multif focal pneumonia"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "uh multiple pneumonia pneumonia"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "pneumonia"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:47", "text": ">> yeah yeah yeah"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:49", "text": ">> uh multi multiple areas of both lungs"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "showed inflammation with fluid fill uh"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "filling the air sacks making breathing"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "difficult."}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "Septic pulmonary throbo embolism which"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "are blood clots containing bacteria were"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "found in lung blood vessels indicating"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "the infection had entered the"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "bloodstream. early stage uh heart"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "inflammation or myocarditis. Initial"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "signs of heart muscle swelling were"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "present suggesting the infection was"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "beginning to infect affect cardiac"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "function. Acute liver congestion. The"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "liver showed blood vessel enlargement"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "and fluid buildup typical and severe"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "systemic infections like an autoimmune"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "some type of like massive systemic"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "highly virulent uh attack. Uh armpit"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "abscess infection. testing of fluid in"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "the armpit abscess revealed abundant"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "growth of staflloccus"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "uh scopfairy bacteria. So like um staff"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "infection essentially and uh here are"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "the key points about this infection what"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "make it so strange."}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "Um so the stafloccus scopery typically"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "causes skin and ear infections in dogs"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "and cats. Human infections are extremely"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "rare and normally only occur after"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "surgery or in people with medical"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "devices which Marco had either of these."}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "So doesn't happen essentially."}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:06", "text": ">> And let me just say that we just got"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "this full report with his endorsement"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "with his stamp and his signature on"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "camera just a few weeks ago."}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:14", "text": ">> Month ago, whatever. Sorry. Carry on. I"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "want to this"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:20", "text": ">> like he's putting his full endorsement"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "down on this right now on camera. not"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "anonymously his entire career in the"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "twilight years of his life because he"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "feels like this is this is"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:31", "text": ">> very important."}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:33", "text": ">> No small deal here."}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:34", "text": ">> Sorry. Carry on because you're doing a"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "great job by the way. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:39", "text": ">> No, no problem. But in this case, here"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "are the things that uh really stand out."}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "One, no prior surgery occurred. There"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "was none of that. There is no way that"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "this infection should have happened."}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "Two, no immune deficiency was detected."}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "So normally with something spreading so"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "fast across the immune system, you would"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "expect some type of imunompromised"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "disease to be happening. None of that."}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "He was 23 like you said, incredibly"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "healthy military guy."}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:04", "text": ">> The bacteria showed unusual antibiotic"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "resistance. And this is the one thing"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "that ended up uh baffling both um you"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "know both doc both uh"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": ">> Dr. Janini and uh Armando. That's right."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "Fortunado uh the forensic pathologist"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "and former municip municipal health"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "minister as well. So both of these"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "gentlemen were completely baffled by the"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "fact that they couldn't give him"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "antibodies. None of the antibiotics that"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "they gave him worked at all. They had"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "zero effect on whatever was attacking"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "his body. Nothing. Can you imagine being"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "a professional"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "pathologist who has all the latest"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "technology, all the answers, and how not"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "only frustrating, but how disheartening"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "it must be to throw your best medical"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "capabilities at this thing and and with"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "to no avail. Like that that sticks with"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "you. You lose a patient not because not"}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "for lack of trying. You gave it"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "everything. It just doesn't make sense."}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "it spread rapidly through his"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "bloodstream and it produced toxins that"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "affected multiple organs. Now in the um"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "sort of synopsis or or conclusions and"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "comments that these doctors give or this"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "doctor here particularly uh Dr. Jannini"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "the infection likely entered through a"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "minor skin break as you said small"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "abrasion uh due to possibly he says the"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "nail of the being so it has nails."}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:32", "text": ">> Yeah. and displayed unusually aggressive"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "behavior with high virolence and"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "antibiotic resistance. Here's a notable"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "consideration. Given the extreme rarity"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "in humans and the unusual aggressive"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "nature of this infection, some have"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "suggested the possibility of a"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "deliberate biological manipulation of"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "this uh bacteria, similar to how Komodo"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "dragons use bacterial laden saliva to"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "weaken prey. It It's the only thing that"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "this doctor can sort of pin."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:01", "text": ">> Yeah. is the Komodo dragon. When it"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "bites you, it weakens you due to the"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "bacteria that it has in there. Um, but"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "also as researchers, we might also be"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "familiar that this secretion that the"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "being had might have been like"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "excoratory,"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:13", "text": ">> might have been excrement."}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": ">> Um, and and that's kind of how they get"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "rid of their waste is through these"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "pores. And it happens when they're"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "sweating and when they're running,"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:25", "text": ">> And I need to make this abundantly"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "clear. This creature, this entity, this"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "being was not aggressive. It was not"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "combative. It wasn't trying to kill"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "people. I think that inadvertently and"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "by accident when Marco Shrezy, military"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "police officer, grabbed this thing, he"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "got a scratch from the nail under his"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "arm and that was so I don't want people"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "to feel like, yeah, oh, these ETs are"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "out to get us, they're going to kill us."}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "That's not the case at all. That's one"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "of the reasons why we're so cautious"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "anytime we do because expo exposure to a"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "type of bacteria and the way he"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "described it to me because I'm a"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "complete neopight. I mean I what do I"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "know? I'm just a filmmaker."}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": ">> But he said to me he goes it was an"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "advanced bacteria unlike anything he's"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "seen on Earth. In other words, it did"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "things that no bacteria on Earth would"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "do. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:11", "text": ">> Even though it was it was a strain of a"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "bacteria that they've seen, but not the"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "way this was evolved and the way it was"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "it was nothing could stop it."}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:21", "text": ">> Yeah. And and if that is the case, it's"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "also just a case of self-defense that"}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "the body produces naturally. It's not"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "some"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:25", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, the ET wasn't trying to"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "kill people."}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:27", "text": ">> No, exactly. It was"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:28", "text": ">> benign encounter. I I really want people"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "to hear that because"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:33", "text": ">> And if this was the being's excrement,"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "what do you think happens if a being"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "from another planet uh takes some of our"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "excrement and injects it into its"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "bloodstream, you might have a similar"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "response."}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": ">> Exactly. Um, the one thing that I found"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "really interesting here is the wording"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "at the at the near the end here of the"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "comments. He says, \"Thus we consider,\""}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "this is a translation again, but pretty"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "accurate. \"Thus we consider that soldier"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "Marco must have suffered some type of"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "superficial uh skin lesion that"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "antibiotic development of infection of"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "stafllocculus which showed high"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "virulence, antibiotic resistance and"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "prolonged course leading to severe"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "septacmia."}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "In the hypothes in the hypothesis"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "considered by many, this is the official"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "autopsy, involving an encounter with a"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "strange being, we may suppose that such"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "a being could use this bacterological"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "weapon. So, this is him just trying to"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "piece it together. Now, we're not saying"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "that this is an evil being, but what I"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "find interesting is that we have a"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "doctor here who's got a reputation and"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "even immediately after, without giving"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "it any afterthought,"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "wrote down that he might have had an"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "encounter with a strange being, and"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "that's the only explanation he has."}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "Like, that is incredible."}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:43", "text": ">> He said it on camera, too."}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:47", "text": ">> And he's he's like, look, he's not"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "saying with 100% certainty. He's saying"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "the highest probability from all the"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "information he can gather is that he got"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "scratched from the nail and the bacteria"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "came from under the nail of the ET under"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "his arm and that killed him."}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": ">> Um, so this is the first time that we"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "have access to"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "this autopsy report and I think that is"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:06", "text": ">> you did a great job reading it by the"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "way."}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": ">> Well, thank you. I mean, I was I'm"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "grateful that you sent it to me and I"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "was mind blown looking through it,"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "although, you know, I had to Google most"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "of what I was reading, but I learned a"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "lot and"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:20", "text": ">> it's uh I think it's one of those things"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "that when you put out this movie the"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "first time, like when you put out the"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "first iteration of this movie,"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:29", "text": ">> Um it stuck with a lot of people. That's"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "one of the few things that that movie"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "just stuck with you was someone dying"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "due to infection because they came in"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "contact with the being. And I'm glad to"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "know that it was because of some scratch"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "that it wasn't just"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> Yeah. some ray beam or something."}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:46", "text": ">> Yeah. Or or or even just touching the"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "being."}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": ">> Yes. that it was it was you know"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "bacteria related and possibly just"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "because of you know different immune"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "systems and from"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:57", "text": ">> everybody according to the firsthand"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "eyewitness testimony that I've talked to"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "that came in contact with this creature"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "that it was not hostile it was not"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "aggressive it was suffering it was"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "scared it wanted help uh and all the"}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "communication occurred through the eyes"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "okay"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "no antibodies could phase this thing. By"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "the way, again, I want to bring that"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "home."}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:21", "text": ">> Well, Dr. Cesario said he threw the"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "kitchen sink."}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And it it destroyed"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:26", "text": ">> everything. They"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:26", "text": ">> He'd never see anything like it"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:27", "text": ">> within a week."}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:32", "text": ">> Within a week,"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:33", "text": ">> he was Yeah. I think he died two to"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "three weeks after he handled the"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "creature. Something like that."}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": ">> Weeks."}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Within a week after uh Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "coming to the hospital, he was he was"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "gone. Um, okay. We're going to move"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "forward to a next the next part of the"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:51", "text": ">> And this is where we talk about the"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "flying disc"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:57", "text": ">> uh and the family that you met with uh"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "who quote unquote says when they saw"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "this disc spinning glowing in the air,"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "they said it was looking for something."}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:05", "text": ">> And I was highly dubious at the time and"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "they didn't want to go on camera. It was"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "funny because so we were renting a house"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "on the outskirts and it was great cuz it"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "had like you know we have a lot of"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "equipment with us and you know camera"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "crew and just for an extra layer of"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "security. It was a really nice house"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "owned by these doctors and it had"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "security gate you going in and out and"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "just for a little you know little"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "comfort. I mean we're poking around"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "where we shouldn't be poking around."}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "We're a little paranoid and so we're"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "staying there."}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "Oh, what are you guys what are you guys"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "filming? And of course, we told the"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "doctors, I we're filming this. Oh, well,"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "our fellow friends, you know, are also"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "doctors and they they actually saw you"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "they're witnesses. So, we're like, well,"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "hey, we'd love to talk with him. We, you"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "know, assuming they were going to go on"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "camera. That was the whole point. We're"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "making a dock."}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "We'll we'll make it happen. Then then we"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "kept like scheduling it and then it was"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "like, oh, maybe tomorrow and maybe"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "tomorrow. And then finally, I said, hey,"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "let them know we're coming. Let's get"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "the address. Let's let's go meet with"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "them. We showed up, cameras rolling, and"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "they're like, \"Whoa, oh, no, no, no,"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "no.\" We never we never wanted to go on"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "camera. We were just happy to share what"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "we we know. And it was really funny,"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "actually, in the in the film because So,"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "I I got out of the car, cameras rolling,"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "and they're saying, and I wasn't really"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "tuning in because I'm in film mode. I'm"}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "in production mode. And they were like,"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "\"Oh, you know, we're you know, we're not"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "we're not going on camera.\" and and I"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "said, \"Okay, look, tell them this.\" And"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "this is a ongoing joke in production"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "because I was like, \"Okay, we can either"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "film them from the front side, we could"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "blur their faces, or we can film from"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "the backside.\" Never was there an option"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "not to film them at all. And everyone"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "was laughing. It's like, \"No, no, no."}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "We're not going on camera. Okay, we're"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "going to put you on camera like this, or"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "we'll put you on camera like this.\" So"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "funny."}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:50", "text": ">> So funny."}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:52", "text": ">> It's something a magician would do."}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:52", "text": ">> You watch it in the film. It's like,"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "\"Yeah, no.\""}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:56", "text": ">> I heard that. You know what I'm talking"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "about. I was like, \"Yeah, we'll film you"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "like this or we'll film you like that.\""}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "we this is ongoing."}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:01", "text": ">> Yeah, we don't we don't have the"}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "pre-context of them saying we don't want"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "to be filmed."}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:06", "text": ">> There's no option for no filming. Okay."}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "So, anyway, so then they start talking"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "now kind of trying to process this like"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "potential"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "crash recovery like a like a I call it"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "ET, whatever. Yeah, whatever."}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": ">> Well, because this is also completely"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "left field to to what everybody else"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "witnessed. So, you're thinking like"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:26", "text": ">> I I was thinking it was part of I don't"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "know. I couldn't process at the time. I"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "was just like I mean hey don't get me"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "wrong I was like okay but then I started"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "piecing it together and then you know"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "the drone footage and proximity to the"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "capture proximity to where the girls"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "seen it was right there man it was"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "blocks away their home was blocks away"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "still living in the same home all three"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "witnesses the mother the wife the"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "daughter and they all watched it for 20"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "minutes 30 minutes it wasn't a quick"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "sighting and they were like slow and"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "methodical the way they described this"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "thing moving around I'm going do you"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "know it was looking for something I kept"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "asking them how do You know, it was"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "looking for something. Are you kidding"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "me? They were like, it was flying real"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "low, coming back, real low, coming back,"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "stopping back. This like a grid search."}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:08", "text": ">> How long did they witness it for?"}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> I think it was like 30 minutes. He says"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "on camera it was 20 or 30 minutes. And"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "he got angry when I said, \"Is there a"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "prosaic explanation to what you saw?\""}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "But a helicopter could have this. And"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "you could see how he was like, \"Look,"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "man. I'm not even I don't even want to"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "go on camera for this. Like, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "doing this like at great risk. I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "telling you right now, we watched it."}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "That was it. It happened. I was here. We"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "were witnesses. It's like,"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "okay. And I slowly came to the"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "realization like, [ __ ] this might be a"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "crash retrieval recovery operation ET."}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "Like, what what else could it be, right?"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "And then we're talking to other people"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "in town. We go down in the town square."}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "We're getting other witnesses saying the"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "same damn thing. They don't even know"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "each other. They've never gone forward."}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "No one's ever gotten that aspect of this"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "case on camera. And then"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "when we recut the movie and we had"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "featured like I've done with this latest"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "cut, you know, crash retrieval cases,"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "you know, Magenta, Roswell, very"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "briefly, we're not getting at Cexsburg,"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "Kingman, you know, the landing at at"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "Bentwaters."}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:14", "text": ">> And just to give an example, like this"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "is not, you know, completely"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "unprecedented, right? And the same thing"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "like in the old version of moment of"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "contact which is all done. It's all gone"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "now that the new the opening we talked"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "about you know tuba we talked about you"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "know UFO uh Karis UFOs over Brazil 1986"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "and then of course we we lead our way"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "into and then we we show some"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "photographic evidence of over the years."}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "So I'm like deleting that whole first"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "part of the movie to make space for this"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "entirely new cut of Moment of Contact"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "New Revelations of Alien Encounters."}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "um just to make the distinction. And uh"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "and I'm looking at that footage"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "uh one of some of the best disc footage"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "at night I've ever seen. I was like,"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:56", "text": ">> \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": ">> how did I not pick up on this before?\""}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "Like this is taken. So I I look up the"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "location just to the south like by the"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "crow flies could be minutes could be I"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "mean no no no time at all. Just to the"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "south of Vargina, Brazil. Same year just"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "a couple months later. same year we"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "happened to have a disc in the night sky"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "exactly like all these witnesses were"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "describing flying around in a"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "neighborhood like holy smokes."}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:25", "text": ">> Where'd you find that footage somewhere?"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:27", "text": ">> Marco Marco no no Marco Leo when we were"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "researching cuz I said to Marco I was"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "like let's give let's sprinkle in some"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "of the best like orb footage."}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:34", "text": ">> Oh, so he had this photograph. He found"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "it. Marco found it. Other fellow"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "researchers found it but no one had ever"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "been like hey this is by the way"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> it's great footage. Like it's great"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "footage and it's like wait a minute I I"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "Googled the location. I'm like wow"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "that's just to the south of Argene not"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "that far. Like wow and it's the same"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "year just a few months later. Holy"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "smokes. Could there be a connection? Why"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "wouldn't there be? I don't know but it's"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "pretty impressive."}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> And it looks like you know all the"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "descriptions like I said"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:04", "text": ">> over residential area at night. Wow."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:07", "text": ">> Glowing orange roing. It's clearly"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "flying saucer. 1996."}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "Really good footage."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:10", "text": ">> Looks like Bob Lazar's craft."}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:12", "text": ">> You know, we"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:13", "text": ">> same type of shape."}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:15", "text": ">> You know, one thing that we should"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "definitely consider doing is that I"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "should give you the best copy I have of"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "that and see if we can do some digital"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "enhancement."}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:21", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:22", "text": ">> Put it through AI. I don't know."}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "Whatever they can do, whatever"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "technology, software"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:26", "text": ">> I wouldn't put it through AI, but I"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "would I would definitely clean it up."}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:29", "text": ">> Yeah. There's there's methods to clean"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "up because AI can take some liberties"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "that that might be misleading."}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:34", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. Well, what I don't know the"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "process, but like whatever we one can do"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "to enhance it because I would love to do"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "a deep dive, I'd like to see it. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "it's pretty damn good as it is."}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": ">> Oh, it's fantastic. I actually love the"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "film grain and I like the digital, you"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:47", "text": ">> of course. And it's original."}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:48", "text": ">> Yeah, those type of sightings. I'm very"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "high conviction when I see something"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "like that. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": ">> there are, you know, other sightings"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "that are more clear, other ones that are"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "more like orbs and this and that. And"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "it's like to both of those, I get a"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "little bit more skeptical. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": ">> But as soon as I see this sort of"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "glowing shape and the shape of what it"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "is,"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:09", "text": ">> you hear the little boys the little boy"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "go, \"It's a disc, Mom.\""}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:15", "text": ">> I know. It's so It it is for me. That's"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "I'm pretty convinced. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:17", "text": ">> Really good. Right."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:18", "text": ">> Right there, too."}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:22", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": ">> So, but then they get visited by NASA"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "essentially."}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:25", "text": ">> Family. Yeah. Well, they It's funny"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "actually because the wife's like, \"NASA,"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "NASA, NASA.\" And husband goes, \"May"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "maybe NASA. We don't really know.\""}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Maybe NASA. They were American."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:33", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:35", "text": ">> And then"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "Uber Ubri"}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:39", "text": ">> Urbara Rodriguez was there and he"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "probably hated the fact that we that"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "they exposed him on that, but he was"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "there with American."}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:45", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. So that's where"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "I went. Hold on a second. What are we"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "saying? Are we saying that this UFO this"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "UFO researcher was"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:54", "text": ">> the guy that did a 180 years later too?"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "Now he won't even talk about it. He"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "won't be he just Yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "was"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:01", "text": ">> he was the original researcher. He was"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "the lawyer that came out right at the"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "beginning."}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": ">> He was the one annihilating everybody"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "else's arguments. He was super smart,"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "super educated, super aware of the case."}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> Pro case"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:12", "text": ">> and he's meeting with Americans,"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "interviewing witnesses"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:17", "text": ">> and those Americans are telling him what"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:18", "text": ">> telling what do they tell the family?"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:20", "text": ">> This we were never here."}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:22", "text": ">> We were never here. This never happened."}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:25", "text": ">> Never happened. Keep your Zip."}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:26", "text": ">> And this UFO researcher is right there"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "in the trenches."}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:29", "text": ">> According to all three family members,"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:31", "text": ">> as I was taking notes, I was like, \"Hold"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "on. This is this guy?\" Cuz he kept"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "saying, \"Uber Jara Ubar.\" And I was"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "like, \"That's the name of that guy.\""}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:39", "text": ">> Dude, I'm glad you picked up on that."}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "Most people don't. Most people that goes"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "right over their head. Very significant."}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:45", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> Because Uber cover up. Part of the cover"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "up meeting with Americans evidently from"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "NASA. I don't know. But they were like,"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "\"This never happened. We were never"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "here.\" Zip."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:58", "text": ">> For all of you thinking out there that"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "you can't be compromised as a UFO"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "researcher, you're going from this guy"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "who's a lawyer, very smart man, and"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "obviously very, very passionate about"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "the Vargina case being real to now"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "working apparently allegedly with the"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "Americans and then just ghosting"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "everybody. Like I mean, come on. And"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "then turning on it. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": ">> the girls were very very upset with him,"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "some of the things he said. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:22", "text": ">> cuz the girls have had everything to"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "lose and nothing. Everybody has really."}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And they could have accepted a bag"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "of money."}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> Could have accepted a bag of money. And"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "it's like this is not exactly,"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "especially then it wasn't a"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "career-enhancing move. Like they were"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "laughed at. I mean, they talk about it"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "in the movie like we've been laughed at"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "our whole lives."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:37", "text": ">> You know, obviously some people take it"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "seriously. Some people a lot of people"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "believe them, but you're getting"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "ridiculed. Oh, you want the job? Like,"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "oh, you're aren't you the one that sees"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "ET? Like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:46", "text": ">> like do you think that's helping them"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:50", "text": ">> Do you know what I mean? like, \"Oh yeah,"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "you're the guy, you know, it's just like"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "the police officer Lonnie Zamora in"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "1964.\" He quit his job as a police"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "officer because people were like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "you're the guy that sees ET.\" Right."}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> Herbert Shurmer, same thing. 1962, same"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "thing. He quit his job."}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:04", "text": ">> Quit his job, worked at a dump for the"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "rest of his life, for the rest of his"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "career."}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Happens a lot."}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": ">> So interesting."}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:16", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "and then he says that Yeah. Multi. This"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "guy also says that multiple people he"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "knows just kind of picked up and left. A"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "lot of people just left town. They just"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "skipped town. People he knew were just"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "like gone."}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:28", "text": ">> Certainly disengaged and stopped talking"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "about it. Pakuchini packed up and left"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "for I think 20 years. That's"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": ">> even even just witnesses, you know,"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "probably."}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:40", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, look, uh uh Carlosa gone,"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "unreachable 26"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "years gone. Can you imagine?"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "Pakuchini, the lead investigator. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "Gone."}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:51", "text": ">> Uber Dejado Rodriguez 180. Won't talk to"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "anybody. Like"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:56", "text": ">> really."}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:58", "text": ">> That's so wild that that family named"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "him. That is that is such a when I was"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "like that's"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:01", "text": ">> you're one of the only people that that"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "has pointed that out."}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:03", "text": ">> I'm glad you kept it in."}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:04", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:07", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:09", "text": ">> all right, we move on to another"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "anonymous uh witness who wanted to"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "remain anonymous was the radiologist."}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "This is one of the craziest"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "they"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:20", "text": ">> can tell you how that came about."}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:24", "text": ">> Yes, please."}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:25", "text": ">> So, uh, Marco Leal, who's an exceptional"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "researcher, Boots on the Ground, is my"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "partner, co-producer. There's also"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "another co-producer, um, Alen Crass."}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "More recently, she's joined the team."}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "But Marco had met some students of his"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "at some school in Varenia and somehow"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "the topic of of Vargenia UFO, you know,"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "case came up and they were like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "yeah, our teacher who's a radiologist at"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "so and so told us this crazy story, you"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "know, and so Marco was like, whoa, where"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:33:59", "text": "is he now?\" So he found him, but he was"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "still working at the time. saw years and"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "years and years of effort to get him to"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:09", "text": "like come forward. No, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "Years for years. No, no, no. And then"}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "finally in 2021, I think it was, he"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "managed to get him to come meet with us"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "and he agreed reluctantly to go on"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "camera. But as long as we disguise"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "disguised his voice and filmed him from"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "the back and you know,"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:25", "text": ">> you gave us two options."}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Right. I"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "know. We gave us two options. we'll film"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "you like this or but uh and um and it's"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "incredible like I mean he talks about"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "the fact that"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:37", "text": ">> the military came in"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:40", "text": ">> they had this"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "something inside a Ziploc you know bag"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:41", "text": ">> body bag"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:43", "text": ">> body bag"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:45", "text": ">> a child's body bag"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:46", "text": ">> stank and it was all done in secrecy and"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "there was no talking cuz I always ask"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "witnesses like can you put me in the"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "room like what was the atmosphere like"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "and people were looking at each other"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "but there was no conversation and like"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "we need you to perform this the only"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "time in the history of his career where"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "he took the X-rays and they wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "even let him proc to see if they came"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "out right. They took it all. This never"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "happened. We were never here. You're"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "hold your silence. Thank you very much."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "You've done your job. You've done your"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:12", "text": "job."}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:14", "text": ">> And uh what also I think was interesting"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "is that he"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "he told you that there was a guy with a"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "camera there, too."}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:19", "text": ">> No, that was uh"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:20", "text": ">> Oh, that was in the other room."}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:22", "text": ">> Yep. That was in that was the driver."}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "That was Military X. That was in"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "Humanites Hospital."}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:27", "text": ">> I'm I'm mistaken the two."}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": ">> Yeah. But um but there were cameras"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "according to other"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:32", "text": ">> uh doctors both in Humanitas and in"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "regional"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:34", "text": ">> in the regional hospital."}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:35", "text": ">> Yes. And we have names of those people"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "too now. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:37", "text": ">> For the first time we have"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Because you don't you don't miss a"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "camera back then because they're not"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "they don't fit in your pocket."}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> Exactly. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> Massive like stupid looking things."}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:45", "text": ">> Like like cell phones, you know, big"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "brace."}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. It's like these giant"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "things you got to wear in a strap. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "It's a whole briefcase."}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:57", "text": ">> Um Okay. So"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "yeah, that it's the military man uh"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "military man X who ends up seeing the"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "alien in a box when he goes uh to the"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "hospital. And and that was just such a"}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "an amazing interview at the end of you"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "know the the first uh part of this. Um"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "after this this is when we hear about in"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "the documentary"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "the USAF United States Air Force. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:23", "text": ">> Usfuse. I kept thinking USAF. What's"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "this guy talking about? USAF."}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:25", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:26", "text": ">> USAF"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:27", "text": ">> landing."}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:28", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": ">> that is a big big deal."}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:33", "text": ">> So all the airplanes coming in to a"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "particular area according if they come"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "from out of outside Brazil uh have to"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "have Brazilian government authorization"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "to land"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:44", "text": ">> and this plane was coming and didn't"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "have that authorization. And according"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "to I guess you call them like flight is"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "it flight control officers radar what do"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "you call what's the name of the people"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "that that monitor all incoming flights?"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": ">> Country radar off"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:57", "text": ">> radar operators or tower um"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:36:58", "text": ">> flight control."}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:00", "text": ">> Sure. Anyway,"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:02", "text": ">> apparently according to him the plane"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "was coming in and didn't"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> radio control towers."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:06", "text": ">> Radio control towers. Plane was coming"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "in"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:12", "text": ">> didn't have authorization. Some"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "highlevel military official, Brazilian"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "military official stepped in and said,"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "\"Let the plane land.\" It diverted."}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "Apparently, it was going to go into Sa"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "Paulo, but it didn't. It went straight"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "to Campinus. And we have testimony from"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "military X that he drove the trucks from"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "Humanitas Hospital to as a military base"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "and then from Ezenas."}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "And so logically something was loaded up"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "on there that would have been where the"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "Americans stepped in. And now we have"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "new"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:38", "text": ">> metal boxes."}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:41", "text": ">> Metal boxes, you know, whatever. I don't"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "even And I don't know how long the the"}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "the creature that was in captivity that"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "was alive. I we don't know how long it"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "stayed alive. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:50", "text": ">> Was it alive when the Americans took it?"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "My understanding is it was how long did"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "it stay alive? I I have we don't know"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "yet. Um but yeah,"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:37:59", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:01", "text": ">> more more pieces of the puzzle are"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "filling in because now we have testimony"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "from you know the military actually"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "drove the creature. Well, we've had"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "that. But now we have testimony from the"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "um chief of police."}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:13", "text": ">> Not anonymous. Put his face and his name"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "on on camera."}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:15", "text": ">> It's a big deal."}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:18", "text": ">> He was like, \"Yeah, I saw a creature"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "under a tarp. something under a tarp,"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "more brass than I've ever seen in the"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "history of my career as a military base."}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "Helicopters landing, going, whole"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "commotion. And he's like, \"Yeah, the"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "Americans came to Campenis and that's"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "when they took the they took the the"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "stuff,"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:36", "text": ">> which as we find out a bit later, pissed"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "off a lot of the local military.\""}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:40", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:43", "text": ">> you then, which I thought was just the"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "coolest thing ever, you produced a"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "Freedom of Information Act request."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:52", "text": ">> To find a flight log of the CIA or not"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "of the CIA, of the United States Air"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "Force"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:57", "text": ">> working with two different people"}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "basically. There was a there was a"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "gentleman, hey, how can I help? I was"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "like, hey, we want to file a foyer"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "request. Okay, let me know what"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "information you want. I had this other"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "gentleman anonymously reaching out to me"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "and he was so knowledgeable. He was"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "like, you know, you got to check here,"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "you got to check that. There's going to"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "be flight logs and duh. And we were"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "going back and forth for a while and I"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "had a lot of incoming information. I"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "mean, just processing after the Joe"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "Rogan appearance for this case was a"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "full-time job just trying to, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "receive all the messages, process all"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "the messages, try to get back to"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "everybody. But there was one person in"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "particular who was really knowledgeable."}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "I mean, I was like, who are you? And"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "he's like, actually, I'm an I'm a"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "colonel, United States Air Force. I was"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "a former fighter pilot, and I had a very"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "dramatic UFO encounter in 1980. I've"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "been following your work. I'm following"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "this case and I want to help you find"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "that flight. So I was like, \"Oh, cool.\""}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "You know, so now I'm working with the"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "colonel of the United States Air Force,"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "retired, but still like he's amazing."}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "Frederick Frederick Clausen, he's okay"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "for me to talk about this. So anyway, so"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "he's he's giving me guidance. There's"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "another gentleman um which I consider"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "one of our team guys, and he's like,"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "\"Hey, you know, let's do this. What do"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "you want me to say?\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "\"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "all flights coming into the United"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "States.\" And I don't know what the span"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "of time was. Maybe it was 10 days, maybe"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "it was 2 weeks, I can't remember, but I"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "wanted to make sure it was before the"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "crash and like, you know, up to 10 days"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "or 8 days or a week after January 20th."}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "So, we just covered that whole window,"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "but I wasn't too much. Nice block."}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:34", "text": ">> All planes coming in. And so we file"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "that FOYA in 2021, 2022, probably 2022,"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "2023,"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "2024,"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "2025,"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "we get a response from the CIA."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:48", "text": ">> From the CIA and what what pray does the"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "CIA tell you to no surprise? Well, like"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "basically resorting back to some thing"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "that was signed in 1949, 19 national"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "security, you know, I think they said"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "national security."}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:40:59", "text": ">> We can neither confirm nor deny."}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:01", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> You know, the information according to"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "the 1949 act, you know, and you could"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "show the document it's national security"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "or classified. We're not going to tell"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "you."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Basically stonewalled flight"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:13", "text": ">> for an entire block"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> from the CIA, too. Why would we get"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "reach out to the CIA? That's kind of"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "telling."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": ">> Yeah, of course it's telling."}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:23", "text": ">> I'm not a a foyer guy, right? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "I'm I'm just not I'm not seasoned, but"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "everyone that I've shown that to,"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "including like Chris Melon, are highly"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "dubious like, \"Well, that's really odd.\""}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "You know?"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:31", "text": ">> Of course it's odd."}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Right. Like,"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:34", "text": ">> of course it's odd. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:36", "text": ">> Of course it's odd."}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:37", "text": ">> Of course. They they they landed without"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "authorization in Brazil. They're not"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "going to admit to that."}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Even if there was nothing to pick"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "up, they're not going to admit to a"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "random, you know, plane landing"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "unauthorized. Like that's just like"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "that's just proof that they weren't"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "supposed to be there for whatever"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "reason. They're not answering that."}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:56", "text": ">> Got to have a flight log."}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:58", "text": ">> Yeah. It just so happens that there was"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "also talk of an alien running around and"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "a ship crashing. Must be must must be"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "coincidental that they also don't want"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "to answer questions about their flight"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "log during that week. You know what you"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "should do?"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "You should foyer request um a month"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "after and a month before."}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> Interesting. Yeah. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> Just to get them to be like, \"Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "No, we were not there.\""}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:23", "text": ">> You know what I should do? I should get"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "some of the members of Congress that I'm"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "working with to do that with me."}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:27", "text": ">> Foyer request a bunch of random dates"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "that year."}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:28", "text": ">> You know what?"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:30", "text": ">> Before and after"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:30", "text": ">> if it came from a sitting member of"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "Congress."}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:33", "text": ">> That would be a more effective way of"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "doing it."}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:35", "text": ">> But even even like Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:36", "text": ">> Don't you think? Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:38", "text": ">> They're not coming from a civilian. This"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "is coming from a sitting member of"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "Congress,"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:42", "text": ">> of course. But I mean, if if these are"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "USAPS, they're not going to, you know,"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "or even special access programs. They're"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "not going to allow, you know, anybody"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "access. But"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:50", "text": ">> I did find out that where the bodies"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "most likely went was on the East Coast."}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "And that's as much information as I can"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "get."}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:56", "text": ">> On the East Coast."}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": ">> Yeah, the bodies went to the East Coast."}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:01", "text": ">> East Coast, United States."}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": ">> Do you think um there was a I was Where"}, {"start": "01:43:01", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "was I looking at? I found out somebody"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "from the DIA told me that"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:07", "text": ">> DIA."}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:08", "text": ">> That's what the individual said."}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:10", "text": ">> Oo, interesting. That actually"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:12", "text": ">> that pretty high conviction"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:13", "text": ">> that it would go to the east coast and"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "and then the individual was like that"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "that's that's as far as I'm going. It's"}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:19", "text": ">> probably is it Maryland"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:21", "text": ">> DNI Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "which doesn't exist somewhere on an"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "island, a floating island is my guess."}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:26", "text": ">> I would like to know and I'd also like"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "to know how long that entity stayed"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "alive."}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:29", "text": ">> Yeah. and what kind of communication"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "there was because there was"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "communication and it was all done"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "through the eyes."}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:36", "text": ">> I'd like to know"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:37", "text": ">> which I I want to know so bad. Chris,"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "you have no idea."}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:40", "text": ">> I understand. It brings us to Dr. Italo"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "Venturelli."}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:41", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:42", "text": ">> A hero."}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:44", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:44", "text": ">> In my in my eyes, this this man deserves"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "a medal."}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:47", "text": ">> This guy's not retired and he's not"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "doing it anonymously."}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:52", "text": ">> He's an absolute saint. He's the head"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "surgeon at the hospital regional in"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:56", "text": "Virginia. Yep."}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:58", "text": ">> He is still there. He was the head of"}, {"start": "01:43:56", "end": "01:43:59", "text": "three hospitals, folks. Right? This is"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "no."}, {"start": "01:43:59", "end": "01:44:02", "text": ">> So, let me tell you how we got Let me"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "tell you how we got to him."}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:06", "text": ">> This is a sort of truncated version."}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:09", "text": ">> Marco,"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "my partner, Marco Leal,"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:14", "text": ">> he um he has I I can't give away too"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "much, but I need to give away just"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "enough."}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:17", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:18", "text": ">> Still protecting some of our sources."}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:19", "text": ">> Keep your sources."}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:21", "text": ">> Yes. So, there's a couple of different"}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "hospitals, and I'm not going to name"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "which one, but we have someone on the"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "inside"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "who's been meeting with us off the"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "record discreet, very discreetly, and"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "saying this is you need to go talk to"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "this individual. You need to talk. Why"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "is that? Because they were shown some"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "stuff. And so, we went to Marco has been"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "like, \"Okay, this is the individual."}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "This is the doctor we need to talk to."}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "We know that this doctor was shown"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "video. We know this other doctor was"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "shown video. So Marco's reaching out to"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "these various doctors and about a year"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "ago we had heard through another doctor"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "through our contact on the inside"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "working in this hospital"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "um that Dr. Italo was shown the video."}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "Okay. So Marco arranges a time where it"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "was like you know a zoom call a little"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "over a year ago with Dr. DLO who's a"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "neurosurgeon at regional like hey did"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "you really see this video and he admits"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "and I don't even know if this was"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "recorded it probably was recorded I"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "knowing Marco was recorded but I was on"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "the other end of it and he was a"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "translator and he confesses that he yeah"}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "there is a video and he did see it so"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "that was about a year ago so this is"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "kind of all on ongoing so then uh fast"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "forward about a year later you know that"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "individual is still on our target is"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "still like on our in our sights, right?"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "But I really wanted to get the two"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:52", "text": "forensic pathologists, particularly Dr."}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "Janini, because he was getting on in"}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "years to talk about the bacteria that we"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "could possibly incorporate in a new cut"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "of moment of contact. And um so we're"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "doing these interviews with them at IPD."}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "You can look up the uh acronym for that,"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "but it's basically the two forensic"}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "pathologists. It's the company that did"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "the analysis, the tissue sample analysis"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "on the deceased military officer as well"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "as uh the doctor that did the autopsy on"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "the deceased military officer, Margari."}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "So, we're doing this interview and it's"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "all amazing and they're saying"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "[clears throat] some incredible stuff"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "and we're super excited"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "and we're like, \"Hey, there's this other"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "doctor. We're really trying to breach"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "him and that was Dr. Eelo and uh Dr."}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "Armando who did the autopsy on the"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "deceased military officer. He goes,"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "\"Hey, yeah, yeah, hold on a second.\""}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "Pulls his phone out, [gasps] \"Hey, Dr."}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "Italo.\" And they're speaking in"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "Portuguese and then he goes, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "okay. Going to hang his phone up"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "tomorrow morning.\" Wow."}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:56", "text": ">> Go around to the back gate at Regional"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "Hospital. He's going to meet you there"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "at 10 o'clock. Say 10 o'clock. We're"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "like, \"Okay.\" So"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "the next morning, we all get in the car,"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "cameras rolling, sound guy, let's roll."}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "We go to the back gate, the back back"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "entry point, not the front, the back."}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "And was like, that's kind of odd. We"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "didn't know exactly what was happening."}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "And and that's when he walks out in his"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "full scrubs."}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:27", "text": ">> Yeah. He's he's working in the He's He's"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:29", "text": "working and he sneaks us in the back and"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "he's sneaking us down these long cor"}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "corridors and and I'm talking to the"}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "camera."}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:33", "text": ">> What are you thinking like where are we"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "going? What is he showing us?"}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:37", "text": ">> I'm totally thinking that"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:39", "text": ">> cuz you think this guy's only seen video"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:42", "text": ">> exactly. So he's down there and we don't"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "really know what's happening now."}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "Unbeknownst to our whole team, since the"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "year before meeting where we confronted"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "him on did he see the video, he had a"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "heart attack."}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "He went into the ICU. He was staring at"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "the ceiling. His partner that was also a"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "neurosurgeon at Regional Hospital,"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "Marcos Phinesis, he had a heart attack"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "in 2018 and died. And so he was"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "apparently staring at the ceiling in the"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "ICU thinking, \"Shit, I'm going to take"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "this to the grave just like my partner.\""}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "Like then on top of that, so he was"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "like, \"If I recover, I'm I think I'm"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "going to go public.\" Then on top of"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "that, he got cancer. I think he got"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "prostate cancer. He's been recovering"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:27", "text": "from that as well. So I think he was"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "just like still working at the hospital."}, {"start": "01:48:27", "end": "01:48:29", "text": ">> I had a wakeup call."}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:31", "text": ">> Had a wake up call and he was like, you"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "know, for the sake of my grandchildren,"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "you know, future generations, I'm not"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "going to take this to the grave. So he"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "sneaks us in and I have no idea what's"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "going on. Everything's happening rather"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "quickly, right? So I'm told that I got"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "to put on these scrubs. I got to put on"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "a mask. I got to put on a hat because"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "you can't enter ICU without that. You"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "have to have all that gear on."}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:50", "text": ">> So I'm putting everything on."}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:52", "text": ">> Sterile environment."}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:54", "text": ">> What's going on? Like what's happening?"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "What's what's you know I'm just okay."}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "I'm just doing what I'm told. Sound guy,"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "camera guy, Marco's there. Alen is"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "there. translator, you know, and and"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:08", "text": "takes us into the ICU. Then he starts"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "talking about, you know, this is where"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "I, you know, this is where I saw the"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:14", "text": "video is in this bed. And then he was"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "just like, yeah, the ET was right here"}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "in this bed, right here in this room."}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "I'm like, wait a minute. The video, the"}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "ET, what? What? And then it all comes"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "out like, yeah, I was here that night."}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "Marcos Venius is the one that preser"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "performed the procedure. I was in this"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "room with ET and we're I'm just I'm like"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "you got to be kidding me. Like this is"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "all unraveling all on camera. It's"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "happening where he was just saying I"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "don't care what the consequences are. I"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "don't care anymore. I'm old enough. I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "seasoned enough. I'm important enough."}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "[ __ ] it. You know what I mean? I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "coming forward and he's doing it. And"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "then we're filming. I'm just shocked."}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "The whole thing is just like I I can't"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:49:59", "text": "believe this is happening. like this"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "development is one of the biggest if"}, {"start": "01:49:59", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "true it's the biggest most significant"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "development"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "in the history of the phenomenon because"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "I challenge anyone out there to show me"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "testimony from anyone particularly a"}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "neurosurgeon"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": ">> an active neurosurgeon not retired"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:23", "text": ">> not retired who's putting his entire"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "career on the line to say I had"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "face-to-face contact telepathic"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:31", "text": "communication for 3 to four minutes with"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:33", "text": "an alien in captivity."}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "I Chris, correct me if I'm wrong. I"}, {"start": "01:50:33", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "can't think of another case. This is a"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "first."}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:40", "text": ">> I happen to have your first hat on when"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "it happened. But"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:44", "text": ">> anyway, so we're filming that. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "trying to process as best as I can. And"}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "I speak French, a little bit of Spanish,"}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "studied Spanish for a few years. So, and"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "when I'm in the field, no matter where"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "I'm in China or in Africa, wherever the"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "hell I am, I really want to know what's"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "being said. Like I you have no idea."}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "Like I go I go to another level of"}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "communication. I'm on a spiritual level."}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "Like I want to hear. So I'm picking up"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "words. I'm doing everything I can. I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "reading body language. I'm like when I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "in the field, I need to be able to"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "communicate with people. I need to see."}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "I want to know exactly what's being"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "said. You know what I mean? So I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "picking up on pieces like what's"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "happening. I'm feeling the energy in the"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "room. Bam. Like all the the hospital"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "staff catch us filming in there and"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "they're pissed off and they grab the"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "neurosurgeon and they're like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "and like [ __ ] I probably just got this"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "guy fired. You know what's going to"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "happen? Ultimately, we get kicked out."}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "He's like, I might Sorry. Go ahead."}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:36", "text": ">> Before Yes. you go to this next"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "location, which ends up being, I think,"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "one of the most"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "important interviews I've ever seen."}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> Um he's sitting there pointing to the"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "bed."}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:50", "text": ">> Yeah. and saying the being was under"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "blank like tucked like a little patient."}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "He said he looked like a seven. He had"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "the body of a seven-year-old."}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:56", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:57", "text": ">> And the skin was white."}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:51:57", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:51:58", "text": ">> Pale."}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:00", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:01", "text": ">> And he said the eyes were reddish. He"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "didn't say red."}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:05", "text": ">> You know, a lot of people thinking these"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "glowing red eyes. That wasn't the case."}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:11", "text": ">> They were red. maybe even from you know"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "and contrary to other reports we had"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "heard about this creature being brown"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:18", "text": ">> maybe once you know and and we can"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "assume"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "based on other testimony from other"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "cases that this is excrement that they"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "are leaking out of their skin it could"}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "be brown as well and that might you know"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "once wiped off leave them very pale also"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "what the"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:36", "text": ">> or maybe the heat of the hot sun"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:39", "text": ">> also and the molecular biologist ologist"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "that allegedly uh if you go on Reddit,"}, {"start": "01:52:39", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "there's a report of this molecular"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "biologist that allegedly uh worked on"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "some of these beings that were frozen."}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "They were pale as well, but he'd noticed"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "there were thousands of pores on the"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "skin. Uh in that their whole system"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "would excrete through the skin. So very"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "similar. But"}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:58", "text": ">> were there other animals that excrete"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:52:58", "text": "that that excrete? Is it"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:52:59", "text": ">> I think chickens."}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:01", "text": ">> Oh, chickens."}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:04", "text": ">> Yeah, I think chickens also."}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:07", "text": ">> Okay. Um but yeah, so you have this"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "being now sitting here and he says it"}, {"start": "01:53:07", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "was like serene. It was calm."}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:12", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> And in his words"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "he says"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "he had control of the room."}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Despite the fact that it was in"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "captivity, it had control of the room."}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "Yeah. And when he looked at it in the"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "eyes,"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "he was like it just read all my"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "thoughts. there's communication"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:32", "text": ">> read all my thoughts like he knew"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "everything I was thinking and he said it"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "was the most advanced intelligence and I"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "said way more advanced this guy's a I"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:41", "text": "mean plays piano like Mozart I mean he's"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "a brain surgeon he's an extraordinary"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "human being when you meet him I mean"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "he's an extraordinary human being"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:47", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:49", "text": ">> and he's empathetic"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:50", "text": ">> super empathetic and he said it was an"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "advanced intelligence I said what do you"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "mean anything way more advanced than"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "anything on earth it didn't have a mean"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:53:59", "text": ">> bone in its body it was an angel He's"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "described it as an angel."}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:04", "text": ">> And he was and then I remember asking"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "him like because we got kicked out of"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "the hospital."}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:10", "text": ">> When that whole con, you know, that"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "whole commotion happened. You're not"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "supposed to be filming here. You guys"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:14", "text": "don't have permits. What are you doing?"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "Yeah, but this is where it all took"}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "place. Yeah, we know that, but we can't"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "you can't be in here and d I'm sorry."}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "You know, and it's all happening"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "quickly. It's like, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:25", "text": "confrontation with Eric Lopes where I"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "it's all happening quickly and I'm"}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "hearing it's all in a foreign language"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:30", "text": "and I'm trying to process what's going"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "on and I'm thinking this guy probably"}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "just lost his job. He's thinking maybe I"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:35", "text": "might have lost my job. I mean, you"}, {"start": "01:54:33", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "know, we end up leaving going into a"}, {"start": "01:54:35", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "cafe. I mean, we were just walking"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "through the streets doing where the hell"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:41", "text": "we're going, but I wasn't going to let"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "it go there. I needed to sit him down"}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "somewhere. We just walked into a cafe"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "and sat down and took over that cafe."}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:49", "text": ">> I saw that. I saw the staff in the back"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "being like, \"What's going on?\""}, {"start": "01:54:49", "end": "01:54:51", "text": ">> Yeah. And then I'm crying and he's"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "crying."}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:58", "text": ">> Well, he he you know, he says something."}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:55:00", "text": "You can tell when you ask him,"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "you know, you ask him about the being"}, {"start": "01:55:00", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "and he starts going, you know, there was"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "no evil. It was an angel. And he starts"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "getting very emotional. You can tell"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "he's feeling for this being. And"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "you know, he goes, a quote that stuck"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "with me, we have a lot to learn through"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "the eyes of that being. And that was"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "just so powerful seeing how emotionally"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "worked up he was in delivering that and"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "you being able to connect with him and"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "him being able to read that you were"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "sincere because of spending 15 years."}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:40", "text": ">> More than 15 years going back to he knew"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "how much you cared about this and it was"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "cathartic for him. You you you get the"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "sense that this immense weight"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:53", "text": ">> Yeah. was in that moment for the first"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "time perhaps in three decades he was"}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:59", "text": "able to"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "communicate the profound nature of his"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "exchange his telepathic communication"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:07", "text": "with an extraterrestrial with someone"}, {"start": "01:56:03", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "else. Um, the fact that you caught that"}, {"start": "01:56:07", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "on video is is incredible. And and the"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "whole"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:16", "text": ">> David West, I got to say, David West,"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:19", "text": "our DP,"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:21", "text": ">> had such a tough task at hand because"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "everything was on the fly. Nothing was"}, {"start": "01:56:21", "end": "01:56:25", "text": "set up. He had light coming in from the"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:27", "text": "windows. He was like, \"James, I was"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "hustling. I was trying not to miss. I"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "only had one camera and I was adjusting"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "things as fast as I could, trying to"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "make it stand on the face, trying to get"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "you like it was all on the fly and David"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "West did a remarkable job. Thank you,"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "David West. Capturing that moment"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "because it was really intense for me cuz"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "like remember this is an ongoing"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "investigation for me and for Marco Leal."}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:50", "text": "I mean, you look at Marco at one point,"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "the camera pans across to him and he he"}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "wipes his forehead and he shakes his"}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "head a little bit like did that just"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "happen? Is this just happening? Is this"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:01", "text": "happening right now? Like, did I just"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "hear what I thought I heard? And then,"}, {"start": "01:57:01", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "you know, as someone who's investigated"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "the case, you know, 15, 16 years, I I'm"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:11", "text": "like, I wouldn't be doing this if I"}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "didn't believe this happened. Like, what"}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "is it what is it like for you after 29"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "years to finally get this off your"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "chest? And he starts to cry. And then"}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "and then we had that moment and he grabs"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "my hands. the the head neurosurgeon dude"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "grabs my hands and he kisses my hands."}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "He's like, \"You can believe it. You can"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "believe it.\" And that's when he says,"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "\"There's so much to learn from the eyes"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "of that being.\" It's like, \"Wow.\" You"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "know what I mean? And like everybody"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:44", "text": "that I've talked to, I mean, who knows?"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "Like, you never know how a film is going"}, {"start": "01:57:44", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "to be received in the public. I did my"}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "best to try to like, you know, tell the"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "story in a in a compelling way."}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "We have so much more compelling"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:57", "text": "firstirhand eyewitness testimony now."}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "Chief of police, forensic pathologist,"}, {"start": "01:57:57", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "neurosurgeon like another crash witness"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:03", "text": "or another witness of the of the"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "cylindrical shaped object very in pro,"}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "you know, proximity to everything else,"}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:11", "text": ">> but also incorporate some of the uh"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "allegations coming from the American"}, {"start": "01:58:11", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "side, from the congressional hearings. I"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "don't want to like beat a dead horse or"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "like regurgitate a whole bunch of stuff"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:18", "text": "that's already happened, but I felt"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "like, you know, the congressional"}, {"start": "01:58:18", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "hearings are very compelling. the"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "allegations, grass retrieval, a lot of"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "people coming forward. I feel the"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "frustration within the within the"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:30", "text": "community that they're not providing"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "enough details to verify these"}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "extraordinary claims and the criticisms"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "coming in. But I have to remind"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "everybody out there that in the last"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "four years, we've had four congressional"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "hearings, three of which we've talked"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "about, you know, uh potential crash"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "retrieval, people who testifying under"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "oath. Okay, let's like take a moment and"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "recognize that, you know, it's not"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "happening overnight. It's things are"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "moving pretty quickly considering how"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "far it's been since the previous"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:01", "text": "congressional learnings over 50 years."}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:03", "text": ">> But like"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:05", "text": ">> so, you know, taking the congressional"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "hearings, making some sense of that,"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "talking to Eric Davis, aerospace"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "engineer, it's phenomenal. But then kind"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "of fusing the two. So it's like you talk"}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "about crash retrieval, you talk about"}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "biologics, live aliens. I can't think"}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "and maybe you can but personally I can't"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "think of a better case than the Virginia"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "case involving the Americans. I don't"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "think there's a better more well"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "doumented recent case in the world that"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "I know of. And so um but who knows how"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "this going to be received. I mean"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "there's ontological shock have the time"}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "people can't even process. Like I know"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "how I looked at it all when I was doing"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "my second documentary on UFOs. I was It"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "can't be, therefore it isn't, right? So,"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "I don't know, Chris. I I really don't"}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "know. I I I've never"}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "We'll see how this lands."}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:55", "text": ">> I don't care what people think about"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "this documentary if they don't watch it."}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "01:59:58", "text": ">> Watch it."}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "01:59:59", "text": ">> Good point. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:01", "text": ">> That's all I care about is that you"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "watch it. You want to critique some of"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "the editing, you want to critique a"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "music choice, yeah, go for it. I don't"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:07", "text": "give a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:00:07", "end": "02:00:12", "text": ">> Watch that documentary."}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "look into the eyes of the people that"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "are putting everything on the line to"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "tell you about the most important"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "significant interaction that's ever"}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "existed. I think with this movie and"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "with the research that you've been"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:28", "text": "doing, this is some of the most"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "profound important work done in"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:33", "text": "disclosure, including the congressional"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:37", "text": "hearings. I think this to me holds more"}, {"start": "02:00:33", "end": "02:00:40", "text": "value because we're not talking to"}, {"start": "02:00:37", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "lawmakers or people who have, you know,"}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:45", "text": "uh, signed away their lives with NDAs."}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "We're talking to human beings. Human"}, {"start": "02:00:45", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "beings from all walks of life who are"}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "all in their own right credible"}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "regardless of if they've served in the"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:56", "text": "military or not. These people are real"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "and you get to see their emotion. You"}, {"start": "02:00:56", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "get to see the tears flowing from their"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "eyes. This is real. this happened and I"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "think that it's some of the most"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:08", "text": "important work ever in this subject. I"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "think you've done a great service to"}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "humanity with this. I really do."}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:13", "text": ">> Well, I really want to make sure that"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "all the other people involved get the"}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:17", "text": "credit to all the previous researchers,"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "Marco Leo, Lini Cross, you guys."}, {"start": "02:01:17", "end": "02:01:19", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:19", "text": ">> everyone out there that's come before"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "us,"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": ">> Victoriao, Pakuchini,"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": ">> Pakuchini, Aubra, Rodriguez, Marco Pati,"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:29", "text": ">> you know, we are stronger together."}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "Absolutely."}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:35", "text": ">> And and we uh and I think on the"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "coattails of age of disclosure um you"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "know with Lou Alzando and Dan Farah you"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "could call that a scop whatever you want"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "to call it. I personally don't believe"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "that but they're making extraordinary"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "claims extraordinary allegations at the"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "highest levels we've ever seen before in"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:51", "text": "history. And I have to tip my hat to"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "those involved getting that done."}, {"start": "02:01:51", "end": "02:01:55", "text": ">> And then now now we've got the case."}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:57", "text": ">> Yeah. The case."}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:59", "text": ">> This is it. So you're looking for you"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "looking for the evidence. This is the"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "case in my opinion"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:04", "text": ">> and it's ongoing."}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:05", "text": ">> Yeah, it's ongoing."}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:06", "text": ">> You know, I look forward to sitting here"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "in a year from now."}, {"start": "02:02:06", "end": "02:02:08", "text": ">> By the time [laughter] by the time your"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "audience"}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:11", "text": ">> hopefully we'll be able to premiere a"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "really interesting video."}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:14", "text": ">> By the time your audience is watching"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "this, I would would have been back with"}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:19", "text": "another team of people meeting with more"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "doctors in the community than ever"}, {"start": "02:02:19", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "before in history."}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:26", "text": ">> It's exciting."}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "I want you to be safe, man. You know,"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "that's this is another thing I want to"}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "just"}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:31", "text": ">> touch on."}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:32", "text": ">> Um I want to talk about Vtorio a little"}, {"start": "02:02:31", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "bit more here."}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:37", "text": ">> Because prior to the movie,"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:38", "text": ">> you started releasing interviews with"}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "him."}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:44", "text": ">> Uh what was the reason for that?"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:45", "text": ">> Um you know, to announce the fact that"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "he's back in. You're talking about"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "Pakuchini."}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:52", "text": ">> No, I'm talking about Oh, sorry. I'm uh"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "I'm talking about um the neurosurgeal."}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "Okay. Thank you."}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:03:02", "text": "um you know uh when we dropped the"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "trailer that um obviously includes clips"}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "of him in the trailer so that people not"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "not like people aren't going to know."}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:11", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:14", "text": ">> Um we talked to uh Ross Coltart at News"}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:15", "text": "Nation and like hey um you know I'd"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "actually spoken to him a while ago right"}, {"start": "02:03:15", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "after I'd done the interviews. We'd"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "gotten back, I don't know, a couple"}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "months later from Brazil and I was like"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:27", "text": "talking to Ross at uh contact in the"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "desert along with a handful of others"}, {"start": "02:03:27", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "and I was telling him, \"Oh my gosh, we"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "just got back.\" He's like, \"It's one of"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "my favorite cases.\" Like, you're not"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "going to believe, you know, we got he's"}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "like, \"Well, you call me when you're"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:38", "text": "ready"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:41", "text": "to make some announcements, drop the"}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "trailer, announce the film's imminent"}, {"start": "02:03:41", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "release, this sort of thing.\""}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:47", "text": ">> And so, uh, so I contacted him. I was"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "like, \"We're ready. we're ready like in"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "a couple of days. He's like, \"Can you do"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:51", "text": "an interview tomorrow?\" I was like,"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:54", "text": "\"Wow.\" And maybe, you know, you could"}, {"start": "02:03:51", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "have a little teaser clip of Dr. Esau,"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "of course. You know, and and"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:03", "text": "after we'd filmed initially earlier this"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:05", "text": "way earlier this year, we'd gone back a"}, {"start": "02:04:03", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "second time and then by the time you're"}, {"start": "02:04:05", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "audiencing this, gone back a third time"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "because we're really getting to know it."}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "did another hourong plus, you know,"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "head-on interview with him on camera,"}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:20", "text": ">> going into more details."}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:21", "text": ">> Yeah. And he also like defends himself."}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Getting to know his wife"}, {"start": "02:04:21", "end": "02:04:25", "text": ">> where he's like, I'm I'm I'm the head of"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "three hospitals. I'm not a slouch. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:28", "text": ">> Listen to me."}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:30", "text": ">> Exactly. And and with everything to lose"}, {"start": "02:04:28", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "and nothing to gain. I love it. It's"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "like but getting to know his wife"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "getting his wife to know us,"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:39", "text": ">> you know, because we have other there"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "are other there are I can't I um I'm"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:45", "text": "kind of sworn to secrecy until until"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "January and not because uh I'm trying to"}, {"start": "02:04:45", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "be evasive or anything, but there are"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:51", "text": "other things in the works of course that"}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "are that are going to be it's going to"}, {"start": "02:04:51", "end": "02:04:56", "text": "be more than just a documentary. This is"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "a movement and this is involving a lot"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "of people behind the scenes and there"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "will be another big announcement in"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "early January. And I mean big"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "announcement in early January that we've"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "been working on for seven or eight"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "months. And again, I wish I could just"}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:10", "text": "tell you guys everything because I just"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "can't for a number of reasons. You'll"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "understand later. But uh"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:14", "text": ">> will you give me a heads up?"}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:16", "text": ">> Of course I will."}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:17", "text": ">> Cuz I would love to"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:19", "text": ">> of course"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:21", "text": ">> do anything I can to to help with that."}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:23", "text": ">> Of course I will. But it it'll it'll"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "involve things that are happening right"}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "here in the United States. So big big"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "big stuff. Yeah. Um but yeah, so we you"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "know uh Ross is like, \"Hey, can we take"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "a little snippet?\" Of course. You know,"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "let's let's have and let's have him in"}, {"start": "02:05:35", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "his own words. Let's addressing you know"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:43", "text": "and I with the when I had him Dr. Esso"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "with all the other like forensic"}, {"start": "02:05:43", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "pathologists were going to their homes."}, {"start": "02:05:45", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "We're meeting their partners, their"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:51", "text": "wives, their friends, their local"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:53", "text": "hangout spots, the restaurants they they"}, {"start": "02:05:51", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "enjoy to go to, everyone getting to know"}, {"start": "02:05:53", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "each other, literally performing. He's"}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "amazing on the piano. People are"}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "singing, playing guitar."}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:02", "text": ">> He plays at the end of the movie."}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Just getting to know each other."}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "Yeah. He sent us that clip and I was"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:04", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:06", "text": ">> so beautiful."}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:07", "text": ">> That is so beautiful. I need to have"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "that in the movie."}, {"start": "02:06:07", "end": "02:06:10", "text": ">> And of course, the hands of like a"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "neurosurgeon, you don't understand like"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:14", "text": ">> the like literally performing brain"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "surgery. Like these hands have to be"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "steady, stable. Like I'm a magician."}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:22", "text": ">> I know, you know, what it takes to"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "develop certain muscles in the fingers"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "and different parts of the hand for, you"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:27", "text": "know, slight of hand practice. It pales"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "in comparison to what this guy does."}, {"start": "02:06:27", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "I'll tell you that."}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:34", "text": ">> He'd tell me he would say like he's so"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "focused on surgery. I want to say like"}, {"start": "02:06:34", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "he has to take a break and he'll"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "somebody come in to replace him for a"}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:43", "text": "little bit while he takes a break. 10,"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "12, 13 hour surgeries. Jeez. And he"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "goes, \"James, I'm so focused. I'm like"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "I'm looking in through the microscope"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "and I'm my whole existence is inside"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "that brain.\""}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:53", "text": ">> Oh my."}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:55", "text": ">> For so many hours. You understand the"}, {"start": "02:06:53", "end": "02:06:57", "text": "level of intensity of what the work that"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:06:59", "text": "I do. I was like, I never thought of it"}, {"start": "02:06:57", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "like that before. He goes, I was that"}, {"start": "02:06:59", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "like, you know, a couple"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:06", "text": "of these go on for like a whole day,"}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:09", "text": "half a day or whatever. You know what I"}, {"start": "02:07:06", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "mean? And he goes, I'm in that brain cuz"}, {"start": "02:07:09", "end": "02:07:12", "text": "I'm just my whole existence is inside"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "there. And then having to come out of"}, {"start": "02:07:12", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "that existence, it's incredible. You"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "know, I've never been friends with a"}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "brain surgeon before, like a"}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "neurosurgeon. He's incredible. He's an"}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "incredible human being."}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:27", "text": ">> And imagine trusting him to"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:30", "text": ">> I asked him if"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:31", "text": ">> Imagine to trust imagine trusting him to"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "fix your brain."}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. No, we jokingly,"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:35", "text": ">> but don't trust him about what he says."}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:36", "text": ">> Thank you. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:37", "text": ">> That's insane."}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:39", "text": ">> Yeah. I said to him jokingly, I was"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "like, \"Hey, uh, Dr."}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "This is just recently cuz we're on we're"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "you know we're going to be together in a"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "week and uh I said uh could could you do"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "me a favor? And he's like oh what's"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "that? And I said could could you put a"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "bigger brain in my head? [laughter]"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "We both had a really good laugh"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "because it's like you know we're always"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "joking around with each other. He goes"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:02", "text": "when I see you again I'm going to show"}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "you a real brain like this. I was like"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "really? He goes oh yeah."}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:08", "text": ">> Oh my god. [laughter and gasps]"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:10", "text": ">> Yeah. He's He's incredible. He's"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "amazing. I loved the added him. Have you"}, {"start": "02:08:10", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "had has he had any"}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:15", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:15", "text": ">> backlash and repercussions due to his"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "appearance?"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:19", "text": ">> And and this is before the movie comes"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:20", "text": "out. So, this is only because of"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:22", "text": ">> What was put out?"}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:22", "text": ">> He lost his job."}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:24", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:25", "text": ">> But he got his job back because he was"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:27", "text": "so needed."}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:29", "text": ">> But yeah, he Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:29", "text": ">> Wait, how did he lose his job? How did"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "he find out?"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:34", "text": ">> They uh I don't know if he was fired or"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "what exactly what happened, but I And I"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "was so upset when"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:37", "text": ">> directly because of this."}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:40", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:41", "text": "But then then within a week they"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:44", "text": "realized they couldn't survive without"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "him. He had to he was so critical. He"}, {"start": "02:08:44", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "was the head guy and he was he could do"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "things that nobody else can do. That's"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "incredible."}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:52", "text": ">> So they had to have him back on board."}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:56", "text": "So yeah, that happened. So I put out a"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:58", "text": "video like and I said, you know, I w it"}, {"start": "02:08:56", "end": "02:09:00", "text": "was a walking talking video in the"}, {"start": "02:08:58", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "countryside. I said, look, whether you"}, {"start": "02:09:00", "end": "02:09:03", "text": "believe him or you don't believe him,"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "this man has dedicated his life to"}, {"start": "02:09:03", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "making lives better for other people. He"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "is a hero. He's dedicated his life to do"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "amazing things. At the very least, have"}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "respect for him when you're criticizing."}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "Just give this man the dignity and"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "respect he deserves. And then I said,"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "\"If there's anybody out there in the"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "military community thinking about paying"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "him a visit, I will dedicate my life to"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "finding and exposing that effort. I"}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "don't care. Whatever it takes."}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "We're watching you. We're watching him."}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:40", "text": "He's under our protection. And I and any"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "other witness that comes forward is the"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "same gets the same treatment. They need"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "to be respected and protected to show"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:50", "text": "like and and and that's been totally"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "fine ever since. And I think that he"}, {"start": "02:09:50", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "really appreciated that video that I put"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "out cuz I was like, I'm keeping an eye"}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "on you. We all are. And we got your"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "back. The fact that he got fired for"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "saying what he said and then rehired is"}, {"start": "02:10:01", "end": "02:10:04", "text": "so"}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:06", "text": ">> I mean I love the fact that he got"}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "rehired just goes to show you like he"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "didn't get fired for a lack of mental"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "faculty."}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:11", "text": ">> Yeah"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:12", "text": ">> because then they wouldn't have rehired"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:14", "text": "him."}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:16", "text": ">> He got fired for an entirely different"}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "reason. One that they had no choice but"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "to overlook. So it couldn't have been"}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:19", "text": "that serious."}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:21", "text": ">> Like that's"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:24", "text": ">> I'll get him to make a statement about"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:26", "text": "it soon. Very soon. Well, I hope"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "02:10:26", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "I hope everything goes well. I hope"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "everything goes well for him, for you,"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "for your team, for everyone involved."}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "Uh, you know, you have you're in my"}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "thoughts constantly and I'm I'm really"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "like, you know, throwing out whatever"}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "protections I can around you and your"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "whole team and and all the witnesses. I"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "think uh just absolutely"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:46", "text": ">> we're in this together and we're"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "stronger together."}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:50", "text": ">> Yeah, man. Absolutely. I got some"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "questions I want you to answer. Well,"}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "actually, our audience does. So, give me"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "a second."}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:55", "text": ">> You got it, brother."}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:56", "text": ">> All right. So, we have some questions"}, {"start": "02:10:55", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "here."}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:00", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:01", "text": ">> From our lovely audience who's always uh"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:02", "text": "who always brings the heat with the"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:05", "text": "questions, I got to say. And if"}, {"start": "02:11:02", "end": "02:11:06", "text": ">> are you neither confirmed nor deny"}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:08", "text": ">> if you guys want a chance and an"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "opportunity to ask our guests some"}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:11", "text": "questions, you can also sign up to the"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "membership. With that comes a lot of"}, {"start": "02:11:11", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "perks, including extra episodes, but"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "also uh you get to Yeah, you get to"}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "appear on this little board behind me."}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "And here is the first question from"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "Dracalich."}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:34", "text": ">> What film do you believe best represents"}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "the phenomenon?"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:38", "text": ">> The phenomenon. [laughter]"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:40", "text": ">> That's my answer. Um, but if you had to"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "maybe a film that isn't even like a"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "documentary about the phenomenon, like"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "what is maybe like a fiction or science"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "fiction movie, do you think would close"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "encounters?"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:51", "text": ">> Yeah, I think that's"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:52", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:52", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:53", "text": ">> you know,"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:56", "text": ">> has everything."}, {"start": "02:11:53", "end": "02:11:59", "text": ">> It's really funny because Varia, if you"}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "think about it, the Veni case 1996,"}, {"start": "02:11:59", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "like think of the parallels to"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:09", "text": "ET, right?"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "I often think what would have happened"}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:17", "text": "cuz when Katya Lilani and and Vyia came"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "within 10 ft of a live creature in broad"}, {"start": "02:12:17", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "daylight, remember that Lilani and her"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "sister, the two youngest, cuz Katya was"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "21, Liliani was 16, her daughter, her"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "daughter, her sister was 14, Vularia."}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "She grabbed her younger sister and hight"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:38", "text": "tailed it out of there. I don't know how"}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:41", "text": "far they got, 100 ft, 200 feet,"}, {"start": "02:12:38", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "whatever. And they realized,"}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "[ __ ] we left Katya back there. Katya's"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "back there and she leaves her younger"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "sister, Vyuria, and Liliana goes back to"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "get Katya. Well, Katya was frozen,"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "locked eyes on this creature. And the"}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:13:00", "text": "creature was pleading with her, \"I need"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "help. I'm weak. I'm frightened."}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "um just scared and was asking now what"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "would happen? Let's just say if Katya"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "had decided to lure this creature into"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "safety, take it in. Take it in the"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:14", "text": "house."}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:14", "text": ">> I see where you're going."}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:16", "text": ">> I'm just saying."}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:16", "text": ">> Dress it up [laughter] or whatever. Put"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:18", "text": "some makeup on it."}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": ">> Yeah. But I'm just saying like that"}, {"start": "02:13:18", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "would have been the real life ET."}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:23", "text": ">> Wild how it mimicked reality before it"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:25", "text": ">> You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:27", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:31", "text": ">> Anyway, so could could have taken a"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "different turn. Yeah, absolutely."}, {"start": "02:13:31", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "Which one first here? Let's do this one"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "first. This is from Edson."}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "Like I'm at a train station in Paris."}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:52", "text": ">> There's only one stop and it's"}, {"start": "02:13:50", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "disclosure."}, {"start": "02:13:52", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "If you could truth serum one person"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "about the phenomenon any era, who would"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "you choose?"}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:02", "text": ">> It's a good question."}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:04", "text": ">> Hal Putoff."}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:04", "text": ">> How put off with Truth Serum?"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:11", "text": ">> Interesting. I would do Eisenhower."}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:11", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "that's pretty good."}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:14", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:15", "text": ">> I can't argue with that. Or he or or"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "Truman."}, {"start": "02:14:15", "end": "02:14:18", "text": ">> Or Forestall."}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Or Truman."}, {"start": "02:14:18", "end": "02:14:23", "text": ">> Truman. Yeah, Truman. Not not bad. Or or"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "George Bush Senior."}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:28", "text": ">> George Bush Senior. Yep."}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:29", "text": ">> Good good point. Good point. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "that's a good point. That's a good"}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:31", "text": "point. I stand corrected."}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:36", "text": ">> Even um"}, {"start": "02:14:31", "end": "02:14:36", "text": ">> yeah, probably Detliff Bronciologist"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:39", "text": "back who who apparently he was the one"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "who worked on these beings and the"}, {"start": "02:14:39", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "bodies and stuff."}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:43", "text": ">> MJ12,"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:44", "text": ">> you know. I've heard that"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:47", "text": ">> Cheney would have been a good one."}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:49", "text": ">> Yeah, Cheney could have been a good one."}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "But probably Bush Senior cuz he was head"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "of CIA."}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:52", "text": ">> He was"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:53", "text": ">> apparently he was told about the Hullman"}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "Landing case. I don't know if he was"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "shown the evidence or not."}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:59", "text": ">> That would have been good. So I mean if"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "I had to choose one now that you're"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "saying that"}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:06", "text": ">> Carter also like I mean Carter leo I"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "would say uh George Bush senior."}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:11", "text": ">> I'd go I'd still go Eisenhower I think."}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:12", "text": ">> I mean you hear you hear that address"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:13", "text": "when he left office."}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:15", "text": ">> That's true"}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:17", "text": ">> about the military-industrial complex. I"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "mean, that came from somewhere."}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:20", "text": ">> Yeah. When did Eisen arrow step down? Is"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "it 60?"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:25", "text": ">> Uh, no. Was it in the 50s?"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "I thought it was 61. You gave that"}, {"start": "02:15:25", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "address."}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:29", "text": ">> Oh, was it? Okay."}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:30", "text": ">> I could be wrong. I could I thought it"}, {"start": "02:15:29", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "was 61. I could be wrong."}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:32", "text": ">> Check."}, {"start": "02:15:31", "end": "02:15:33", "text": ">> Well, I know he served in the 50s, so it"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "might have been 60s. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:37", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:38", "text": ">> But yeah, I'm pretty sure he's got he"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "took a lot to the grave."}, {"start": "02:15:38", "end": "02:15:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Unfortunate, too, right?"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:43", "text": ">> Yeah. He seemed like a decent man from"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "like when you hear that speech, it seems"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "like he was strongarmed into obviously"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:49", "text": "not giving up secrets. When you hear"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "about the lore and stuff that involves"}, {"start": "02:15:49", "end": "02:15:53", "text": "Eisenhower and the gifts that he might"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "have been given at these meetings and"}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "whatnot,"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:16:01", "text": ">> you know, one other person that comes to"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "mind is, you know, when I uh I told you"}, {"start": "02:16:01", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "about this guy Jeff Sagansky earlier in"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:07", "text": "the show. Yeah. And uh"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:08", "text": ">> Jeff, I had tre I still do. I have, in"}, {"start": "02:16:07", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "fact, he just called me a couple days"}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "ago. I need to call him back. But uh he"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "was head of Sony Pictures. He was very"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "influential behind the scenes. Never"}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "wanted credit. Never wanted a dime. And"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:23", "text": "one day I asked Jeff Sagansky,"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "\"Hey, why are you so good to me? Why are"}, {"start": "02:16:23", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "you helping me out?\" He's like, \"You"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:29", "text": "know, James, you're a small independent"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "filmmaker. You're one guy out there"}, {"start": "02:16:29", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "trying to like really get to the truth,"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:36", "text": "find out what's going on. I admire that"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "in you, your tenacity.\" And I was"}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "friends with Jackie Gleason."}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:41", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:44", "text": ">> And I said, \"Really?\" I said, \"Really?\""}, {"start": "02:16:41", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "And uh not really knowing exactly where"}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "this was going to go, but he goes,"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "\"Yeah, I worked on a I think he worked"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "on some film with him. I'm not sure"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "which one it was a while ago,"}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "obviously.\" And uh and Jackie Gleason"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "told Jeff Sagansky to his face, I don't"}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:17:01", "text": "care what anybody tells you about UFOs."}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "I know for a fact they are absolutely"}, {"start": "02:17:01", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "real and the government knows it. No"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "question. just don't he didn't say hey"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:10", "text": "the president of the United States took"}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "me out to an air base in Florida and"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "showed me bodies and good but he did all"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "but say that is interestingly enough so"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:17", "text": ">> Jackie Gleason"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:18", "text": ">> cool"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:21", "text": ">> could have been one too"}, {"start": "02:17:18", "end": "02:17:23", "text": ">> I wonder what celebrity would have been"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "given such access because you have to"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "think that even the people in charge"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "with NDAs that have signed their lives"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "away are still can still be susceptible"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:35", "text": "to vanity"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:37", "text": ">> and you know some of them must be like,"}, {"start": "02:17:35", "end": "02:17:39", "text": "you know, oh, that that James Fox guy."}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "I'm really big fan of his, you know, and"}, {"start": "02:17:39", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "like they're, you know, it it's not"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "unlikely that there's a celebrity out"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:48", "text": "there that got some form of access."}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:49", "text": ">> Yeah. My problem is something my problem"}, {"start": "02:17:48", "end": "02:17:51", "text": "is they couldn't do that to me cuz I"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "wouldn't take it to my grave."}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:57", "text": ">> I I I wouldn't cuz I feel like humanity"}, {"start": "02:17:55", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "so sorry I step away from the mic. I"}, {"start": "02:17:57", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "just feel like"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:01", "text": ">> I wouldn't take it to the grave. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:18:00", "end": "02:18:03", "text": ">> I would be like if you're going to show"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "me this, I'm going to talk about it. Oh,"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:07", "text": "don't give me any cuz I feel like why"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:07", "text": "should I be"}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:11", "text": ">> any better than anybody else. Why should"}, {"start": "02:18:09", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "I be shown something that everybody"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "should be shown the same?"}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:17", "text": ">> So, I wouldn't make that. I mean, I'd go"}, {"start": "02:18:15", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "and see it, but I would reveal that I"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:20", "text": "saw it."}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I would write a science fiction"}, {"start": "02:18:20", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "book."}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:25", "text": ">> That's a that's just Yeah. Put it on"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:26", "text": "between the lines. Yeah. Whether, you"}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "know, you hear about secret machines,"}, {"start": "02:18:26", "end": "02:18:31", "text": "Nick Pope also wrote science fiction,"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:33", "text": ">> you know. So, yeah. Interesting."}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Last question here before we let"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "you go. And this one quite a deep"}, {"start": "02:18:35", "end": "02:18:39", "text": "question. So,"}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:41", "text": ">> you know,"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:41", "text": "if if you have no answer for it, that's"}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "fine."}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:46", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:48", "text": ">> Have you learned"}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "from Zen, have you learned anything in"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:52", "text": "your investigations that has influenced"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "your view of the on the afterlife?"}, {"start": "02:18:52", "end": "02:18:57", "text": ">> I'm going to take a vow for 300, please."}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:19:00", "text": "I'll take a Y. No, I'm kidding. I'm"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "kidding. Yeah. Yeah, I have. Yeah. and"}, {"start": "02:19:00", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "and and uh"}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:10", "text": "unfortunately right now I am dealing"}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "with my uh older sister Janine who I"}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:14", "text": "cherish and she has multiple sclerosis"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:17", "text": "and she's succumbing to multiple"}, {"start": "02:19:14", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "sclerosis at her will uh and it would"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "have happened by the time this this this"}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "came out and we talked recently about"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:27", "text": "and she's very pragmatic and you know"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:32", "text": "she's like look man I've had a great"}, {"start": "02:19:27", "end": "02:19:33", "text": "life don't pity poor me. Uh, I said that"}, {"start": "02:19:32", "end": "02:19:35", "text": "when it came to the point where I could"}, {"start": "02:19:33", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "no longer take care of myself, I didn't"}, {"start": "02:19:35", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "want to be a burden on anybody else."}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "Want to be a burden on my kids. I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "going to I'm going to go my way. I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "going to button up all my affairs, get"}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:48", "text": "everything in order. This is what she's"}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:51", "text": "done."}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "And then uh I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "02:19:51", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "would it be okay if I tried to"}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:56", "text": "communicate with you on the other side?\""}, {"start": "02:19:54", "end": "02:19:58", "text": "She's like, \"Of course. Of course.\" And"}, {"start": "02:19:56", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "I said, \"Vice versa, if you want to try"}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:01", "text": "to communicate with me on the other"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:02", "text": "side.\" I mean, it's kind of weird having"}, {"start": "02:20:01", "end": "02:20:05", "text": "these conversations when someone's still"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:07", "text": "alive, right? But it's just it is what"}, {"start": "02:20:05", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "it is, man. It's really depressing and"}, {"start": "02:20:07", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "really sad and I've cried so much in the"}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "last couple weeks, you know? Um I've"}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "been very emotional. So many things"}, {"start": "02:20:13", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "going on. Uh but she said, \"Uh well,"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:20", "text": "what what's the best evidence that"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:23", "text": "you've heard that there's something on"}, {"start": "02:20:20", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "the other side?\" And I said, 'Well,"}, {"start": "02:20:23", "end": "02:20:29", "text": "I work with Leslie Keane and she wrote a"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:33", "text": "book about surviving death. I think it"}, {"start": "02:20:29", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "was called Surviving Death. And and then"}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "there was a Netflix original made. I"}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "think it was a six-part series or"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "something about it called Surviving"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "Death based on her book."}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:44", "text": "So, I called Leslie and I've known her"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:46", "text": "for years, for years. I was one of the"}, {"start": "02:20:44", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "first people to put on put her on camera"}, {"start": "02:20:46", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "with Tim Coleman for Out of the Blue"}, {"start": "02:20:48", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "back in the late 90s. I think it was"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:55", "text": "late 90s or Yeah, probably late 90s"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "2000. I don't know, whatever."}, {"start": "02:20:55", "end": "02:21:00", "text": "Uh, and I said, \"Leslie, give me your"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:02", "text": "best give me your best shot. What What's"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "How do you know there's something on the"}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "other side?\" And without a moment's"}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:11", "text": "hesitation, she's like, \"Well, my um my"}, {"start": "02:21:07", "end": "02:21:15", "text": "partner lover died in my arms, you know,"}, {"start": "02:21:11", "end": "02:21:18", "text": "while ago.\" And you know he was there"}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "one minute and then the next minute his"}, {"start": "02:21:18", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "soul it was just a carcass. It was like"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "a piece of styrofo I mean it was"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:30", "text": "cardboard you know and she was like"}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "where did the essence of his soul like"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:35", "text": "where what just happened? You know what"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "I mean? Cuz it's very obvious that this"}, {"start": "02:21:35", "end": "02:21:39", "text": "he's gone. So, she started researching"}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:43", "text": "it"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "and she said that she found a medium. I"}, {"start": "02:21:43", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "don't think she'd ever met this medium"}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "and I she might have even used an alias,"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "but she I was I think it was a remote"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:54", "text": "thing. Somebody in um it might have been"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "Arizona"}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "and uh she said, \"Look, James, it was"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "one of two things. either somehow this"}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:04", "text": "medium read my mind things that I"}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "weren't even thinking about very"}, {"start": "02:22:04", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "intimate moments with my lover before"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:10", "text": "that individual died like details that"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:13", "text": "I've never shared with anybody on the"}, {"start": "02:22:10", "end": "02:22:15", "text": "planet ever. Either she read that in my"}, {"start": "02:22:13", "end": "02:22:17", "text": "mind which I wasn't thinking about which"}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:19", "text": "quite honestly I hadn't thought about in"}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "a long time or she communicated with him"}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:23", "text": "on the other side. It was one or the"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "other. It's like wow that's that's"}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "that's pretty compelling."}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "Thanks for sharing that. Of"}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:32", "text": ">> course."}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:33", "text": ">> Good luck with everything."}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:36", "text": ">> Thank you. I appreciate that."}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:38", "text": ">> James, you're a gentleman. You're always"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "welcome here. And every time you come"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "here, I am just completely flabbergasted"}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:45", "text": "by the amount of empathy you have and"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:47", "text": "the amount of care that you take with"}, {"start": "02:22:45", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "all of these investigations, everything"}, {"start": "02:22:47", "end": "02:22:51", "text": "you do. So, I wish you nothing but the"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "best of safety and luck in your"}, {"start": "02:22:51", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "continuation of this amazing journey."}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "Thanks. Well, I appreciate you having me"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "on and you're the most amazing magician"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "and podcaster out there. One of the top."}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "So, I really appreciate you too."}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:03", "text": ">> Appreciate it."}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "02:23:13", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "[music]"}]

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And I will tell"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "you what she said about this this being."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "What he did was forwarded me an email"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that was sent to him from someone he"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "knew inside the DIA and it says, \"Here's"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "what I know about that film.\" Um, it was"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "classified as an unauthorized viewing."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "This film was filmed on April 22nd, 1991"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "at 3:15 in the afternoon on behalf of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "coordinated by the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Agency. He said it was a clone"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "extraterrestrial biological entity type"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "2 from the Taetti star system. Here's"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "were the men in the room. The first name"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "was Rear Admiral Ned Schaefer, Captain"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Lel Jacobe. He becomes director of DIA."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Dr. Craig McFersonson, Robert Donovan,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Army Intel, Dr. Wilfford Webb Wilson."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "The next name on the list was Carthusian"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Monk 1. Carthusian Monk 2. Yes, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "now in the Da Vinci Code. 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What he"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "said was that remote viewers with the"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "NSA were getting this remote viewing of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "a white building in the far upper east"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "coast where members there had the gift."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "There was a total of six monks that they"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "used that they were used for counter"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "intelligence in the 80s. They were some"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "of them were brought to S4 asked to do"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "thought projection interviews with these"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "beings. And he said that him"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> he said that"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> he said that it took a a a couple of"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "days to describe how human beings live"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "in our time seconds minutes. The being"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "did not understand that. This type of"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "alien they measure time in their"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "experiences layered on top of each"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "other."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "No one no one on the internet has ever"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "said this before. If you want to make a"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "general drinking his coffee in the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "morning spit up, tell him this. The new"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "designation of aliens is saber. I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "like, like the sword. He's like, yes,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "saber. I said, what does that stand for?"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "He goes, synthetic astrobiological"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "extraterrestrial races. Don't ever ask"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "about it. And I am telling you, do not"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "ever bring it up on any of your podcasts"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "or whatnot. And I don't want you talking"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "about other species other than the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "grays. And if you stick to the grays,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "you will be safe. I can guarantee it."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> So my story is I was about um I was 11"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "years old living in Germany at the time."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "My dad was in the military. Um we lived"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "off base and I was walking with a friend"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "at the same age, bright daylight, middle"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "of summer. Uh we were just walking along"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "um the a housing area for the military"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "families. Um, so passing by our school"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "and a chapel and I remember I was just"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "looking at a playground um, in front of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "me and all of a sudden everything went"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "completely pitch black and I was just"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "staring into the inkiest darkest cave"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "sort of blackness I've ever seen. And"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "then it came everything came right back"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "as if someone had switched the light off"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "on the sun and flipped it back off. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "if that wasn't strange enough, I turned"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "to tell my friend and she says, \"Did you"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "see that?\" and the same thing happened"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "to her at the exact same time. Um, we"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "were excited and scared, ran all the way"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "home and no one had had the same"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "experience. Um, over the years I've met"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "one or two people that h have had"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "similar um, if not the exact same thing"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "happen to them. Um, and they were kids,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "too. So, kind of weird."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, today I am joined"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "by a very special guest, uh, Mr. John"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Stewart, former pro wrestler, uh, ran"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "for governor of Illinois. Like, this"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "guy's done it all. Um, but most of all,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "you've been extremely vocal,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "uh, in the UFO topic. Now, we're going"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "to get into a lot of different things"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "today, but the main the main piece of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the pie that I wanted to and the reason"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "that I wanted to have you on was talking"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "about this alleged real video of an"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "alien that is being interviewed uh"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "potentially at S4 and obviously with the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "lore behind Bob Lazar and Dan Burch and"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "everything else, all these connections."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "So, I wanted to talk to you about that"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "today. So, first of all, John, thank you"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "so much for joining me."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> Thank you for having me. uh told you in"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "our our little talk before this uh I I"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "think you're one of the best podcasts"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "out there. Your sincerity rings through"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and comes through the camera. I'm not,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "you know, I'm not uh giving you a snow"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "job, you know, um but I I was uh really"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "thought that you could do a great"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "service to my journey, which is all this"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "has ever been. It's $30,000 of my money,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "six and a half going on seven years of"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "my time. And I'm still telling people,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "I've got my hat in my hand. Mr. Magcgoo,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Inspector Cluso, I don't know anything."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Please come help me. I still got to"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "finish this journey. And and I and I"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "hope you can do justice to that because"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "I have to be be honest. I I have not"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "maybe at times communicated that to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "people where they where they they get"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "into a confirmation bias."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> There's something that I rub them the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "wrong way or um and I want to do a a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "little preamble and I'm not the preamble"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "is this"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> is that folks what I am have said for"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "seven years has never changed. It is my"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "journey that is not BS. I'm not looking"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "for attention. I've had attention in my"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "entire life as a pro wrestler, football"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "player, political camp. I don't need"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "attention. And it isn't for money"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "because I'm one of the only UFO reachers"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "that's still in the the red. And and"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "it's funny that the fortune telling"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "machine talked about finances because"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that's what I want. You know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "$30,000 in the hole for for what. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the I I know people like to get into the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "chat log and this is BS and you can say"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "whatever you want about what was shown"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "to me, what was told to me, what I"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "experienced, who I emailed, who I that I"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "appreciate, but but tell me the story"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "behind why you think something is not"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "copracetic."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> To to help me. Don't say John Stewart's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "BS. I am simply the reporter, the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "journalist telling you, I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "this for six and a half years. Can I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "please just tell you my story that"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "that's all I've asked people that I"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "haven't that hasn't translated"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> very well and I hope that it does today"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "because I I I know the way you are, your"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "demeanor, your character, and I really"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "hoping for great things from this"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "podcast. And I don't and I mean that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "sincerely,"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> of course. Yeah. And I appreciate I"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "appreciate you saying that. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "know, skepticism I think is healthy and"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "I I I too practice skepticism and I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "sure you do as well."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And and you know, it's really"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "help. So, uh, you know, today I will be"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "asking you about a few things that I"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "might want you to clear up or even the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "things that you're skeptical about about"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the things you believe in. Um, but as"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "you know, as you might know on this"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "channel, you know, one of the I think"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "one of the reasons for this channel"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "isn't to get to the truth necessarily."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Uh, I think that'll come with time. But"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "I think it's allowing people to speak,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "allowing stories to be told, unfiltered,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "no judgment. And after that, we can hold"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "up all that sort of anecdotal evidence"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to the light and see if it connects, see"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "if it"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> absolutely, you know, see if we're"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "finding points of connection and then"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "forming hypotheses, discussing, you"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "know, trying to dissect it as a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "community. Um, but there are definitely"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "detractors out there online that will,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "you know, simply try to attack your"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "character or will try to simply debunk"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "something um out of an opinion or a"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "gutshot,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Uh, and I think it's it's difficult but"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "healthy to remain balanced in this uh"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "space specifically because obviously"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "obviously we're looking at anomalies."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "you know, we're looking at the anomaly"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "and within that anomaly, there are a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "million other anomalies. And so, we're"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "already looking at one. Where do we draw"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the line between the others? Right? And"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "that's where some people, I think, get"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "maybe you ruffle feathers in a way that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "people are like, I'm not ready for that"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "yet. And that's okay. I think uh"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> uh a very famed journalist told me six"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "months ago, John, you've got a live"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "being, puppet or not, real or not."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "That's a really hard thing for anyone,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the media, government, UFO researchers,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "UFO community to metastasize."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Absolutely. And metabolize. That"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> hit me. That was like, well, that is a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "great statement. This is we're not"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "talking about a fuzzy saucer in the sky."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "We are talking about a very creepy weird"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "looking being. Whatever it is, puppet,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "interdimensional, offplanet,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "interstellar,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "that's going to be very hard for people"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "to metabolize. And you that's what"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "that's that's what you're facing. You're"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "facing this confirmation bias of I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "want I'M NOT READY FOR THIS to even"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "remotely be"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> possibly true. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> and and that's fine, I think, too. Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> you know, everybody's on a separate"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "journey."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Some people are, you know, still looking"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "at orbs and some people are looking at"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "reptilians on the moon. You know,"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "there's there's a whole gamut of things"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "to look into in this phenomenon. So, I"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "don't I don't blame people if you know"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the alien interview isn't the first"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "thing they they they want to see within"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "this phenomenon. I don't blame them"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "either."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Go watch The Phenomenon by James"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Fox. It's a good nice easy way in. But"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "after you're done with the crafts, Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "You know, let's talk about what I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "interested in. Let's talk about these"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> Talk about the pilots."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. Yep. Um, okay. So, take"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "us back uh 19. Uh, I had"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> you know that I just got a ch I got a I"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "got the the the the shivers."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Yeah. It's because it gives me PTSD."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "I've been doing this for six and a half,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "seven years and it's uh"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "you just did like a hypnotic thing."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Let's go back. That's what what's you"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "know. So, it it um that's good. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "good. This is I these podcasts are my my"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "therapy and I and I I don't I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that candidly and sincerely. This is my"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "therapy too of talking through this"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "begging people to help me and but I just"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "got a I just got a shiver. So that's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> That's a good sign. Um July 26, 1996, it"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "was a Friday. This video, this video"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "tape was then handed by uh this"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "gentleman Victor goes by Victor uh to"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "John Coleman who is a president of"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Rocket Picture."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Tom Coleman, president of Rocket"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "Pictures, who also created the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "documentary in 1997. Um you know, sort"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "of outing this whole story to the world."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "uh which you know pre uh predated the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "obvious uh interview that happened with"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Art Bell afterwards on the phone and"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "then the later interview again with"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Victor where he shows up I think a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "decade later."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> well what's nice about my research is"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that I have the backstory and I can tell"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "it now because I put out my documentary"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "everything's out which was great. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "which which is great because I can speak"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "to you now and don't have to say I have"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "to tell you in a skiff or something you"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "know something like"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> well you're in a skiff so you can tell."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "I know that. So, um about uh four or"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "five days before"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "canding Tom Coleman the the video, we"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "have now since found out that Victor was"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "making the rounds in Hollywood of"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "television studios"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "um trying to sell them this VHS tape."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "by his own admission and by others that"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "that knew of this process at Rocket, um"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "these people at these television"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "studios, this guy's a little weird. He's"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "a little off."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Um uh but the biggest reason was no one"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "could guarantee his anonymity. And"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Victor speaks of this. they they they"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "would not be willing to sign a contract,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "pay him in cash, and not really use his"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "name and and and and he didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "be on on the video. This is something no"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "one under no one knows about. Victor did"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "not want to appear whether in silhouette"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "or whether in voice changer. Victor did"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "not want to be part of the video."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> This isn't just him uh shopping it"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "around and and getting turned down. This"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "is him where his demands weren't met."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> Okay. in in his security wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "met, which is my first, you know, my"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "first thing that the trial balloon that"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "I throw out there would a because and"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "I'm so glad I thought of this when this"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "first came out before you were in the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "UFO community, everyone in the UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "community told everyone that was"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "interested, including me in 97, 98, 99,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> find out who Victor is. You prove the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "provenence of the video. If Victor is a"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "a paid actor, you know, central casting,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> video's obviously a hoax. But if somehow"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "this is the UFO community, this is why a"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "lot of people run from this. Like I"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "don't don't throw my words back in my"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "face. The UFO community told me, \"But a"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "victor is a government employee, a"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "military person, somebody from an"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "administration, an elected official, uh"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "a a chaplain with the the government."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Wow. Now we got a whole new we got a"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "whole new ball game.\""}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": ">> So, I have been living with this in my"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "back of my head. Prove John. Prove who"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "Victor is. And I'm simply asking the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "first trial balloon. If you're an actor,"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "are you are you leaving studios because"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "they can't protect your identity?"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "Wouldn't you want your identity out"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "there if you're this egoomaniac actor"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "that most actors are? They want their"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "name. They want their recognition. That"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "struck me. We realized the last studio"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "head he talked to was Mike Darnell of"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Fox Unscripted Television. He just hung"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "up on me three weeks ago because he"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "thought I was lying to his wife"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> that I I said this is John Stewart from"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Chicago. I have a real quick question. I"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "think he thought I was a bill collector."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "He literally the Hollywood people are"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "very very rough."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "They are they are not polished. Um they"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the manners are horrible."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> And so he he just I went to go confirm"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the story just three weeks ago and he"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "hung up on me. But Mike Darnell is with"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Fox unscripted television department and"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "Victor goes in and you know Victor's is"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "a pain in the ass. He's precise. He's"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "he's not easy to deal with and they shoe"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "him out. Victor tells the story but he"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "doesn't say Fox. We found out that it"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "was Fox TV."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "He goes across the street to a news"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "stand across the street from Fox Studios"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "and it's a news stand. He picks up"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Variety magazine. He opens it up and he"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "sees a advertisement for a Rodney"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "Dangerfield comedic golf VHS tape and he"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "figures maybe this production company"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "who's not so high flulutin as Fox and"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "and ABC, NBC, CBS, whatnot, maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "they'll take a chance at this. Maybe I"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "maybe they'll be malleable with my"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "demands."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> Yeah. uh f uh sorry to interrupt but"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "folks have to understand as well during"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "this time like obviously the the"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "audience that is listening is a little"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "more mature but obviously today you just"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "put that stuff on YouTube you you make"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "your own channel you don't need anyone"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "else but back then you needed to go"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "through these gatekeepers you absolutely"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "had to for anything to be seen at all um"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "so you know that's the reason he was"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "shopping this around you couldn't just"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "he didn't have a platform"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> and this is why I came on the show I"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "have been trying to tell people for six"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "years from my knowledge of Hollywood. I"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "have written three scripts. I have had"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "four um reality show go to pilot which"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "is which is huge. They didn't make it on"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "TV."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> I know about Hollywood blockers getting"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "to these people. Chris, what I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "to tell your audience and this is very"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "important with the background of Victor"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "to get a meeting with a network in 96."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the verbiage that you would know to to"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "to be able to tell the blocker, the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "secretary, the receptionist to get to a"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "Mike Darnell from Fox and then get that"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "meeting in his office. The verbiage you"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "would have to know would be beyond just"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "a government employee. It was somebody"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "that was familiar to some degree with"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "audiovisisual audiovisisual production."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "something very very important to"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "remember that it was near impossible to"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "do to do this without some knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "the vernacular of Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": ">> Very important."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> So he calls up Rocket Pictures. Tom"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Coleman answers. Tom Coleman thinks it's"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "his brother joking him. He passes the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "phone off to Jeff Broadreet. Now this is"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "where I debunk myself a little bit. And"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "remember, I'm just trying to find the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "truth. sitting at the Rocket Pictures"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "office is the only Hollywood director"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "that has ever been TO AREA 51. JUST SO"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "happens the hour I'm debunking myself. I"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "know you're looking at me like, \"Wait,"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "why is John debunking his own I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "I I I I called that into question. I"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "find that a little suspicious that the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "only Hollywood director, Jeff"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Broadstreet, who I talked to three times"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "a month for six years, happened to be"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "sitting at the office, was friends with"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Shawn David Morton when Victor called."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "They bring Victor in. Uh Jeff"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Broadstreet tells me, matter of fact,"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "the biggest PETA pain in the butt on the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "history of the history of the world."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "Demand after demand after demand. We've"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "settled them down. We came to a"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "financial demand. We said, \"There's no"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "way we're doing this unless you come on"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "screen.\" Silhouette voice changer. He"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "reluctantly agreed to that."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> Yeah. He was not uh it appeared in the"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "video, however, he was very uneasy."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:20", "text": ">> Oh, hi."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> And not happy."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": ">> Was there something about the content"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "that caused them to file it differently"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "or give it special handling?"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": ">> This interview was terminated."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "The interview resumed only after a"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "discussion of the ground rules."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> Have you personally seen the alien being"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "that appears in the tape?"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> Yes, I have. But I stress I was not"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "necessarily present at the interview"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "session that appears on the tape."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> He was not a happy camper."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> Not not a happy camper."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> Not there and not even in the phone call"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "with Art Bell, which he also voiced out"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "that he felt like he was kind of coerced"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "into doing. So, not not once"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": ">> did it seem like he was very uh willing"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "to come forward."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Uh, welcome to the program, Victor."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> Yes, I think it's fair to say at this"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "moment I'm in defense."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Uh, this snafu with the telephone"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "numbers. Can I ask you who is at your"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "studio at this time?"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Um but then you know like later we can"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "talk about this but there there was uh"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "in some people's contention with this"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "was a financial aspect of it like he did"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "receive money for something and he"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "explains that and we'll talk about that"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "a little bit later and I do want to"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "address it because I think it's an"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "important point to address."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": ">> Um but yeah he he was very reticent did"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "not want to come forward on camera so uh"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "yeah visibly angry. Well unvisibly"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "invisibly angry. And it's funny because"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "the the director Jeff Broadstreet would"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "of the hundreds of talks I've had with"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "him uh on email he would he would tell"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "me John once we settled him down he was"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "actually a chatterbox. was actually"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "very, you know, very um uh cordial and"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "very and when Okay. Okay. You know, in"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Chicago we call them, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "cockadones. That's Italian for, you"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "know, chatter boxes. But he said uh just"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "uh uh very scientific and um and I guess"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "I should say this part now even though"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "it's a kind of a it's like a it's a"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "surprise but he slipped about six months"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "ago the director and he said yeah when"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "he"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": ">> um when he put on the wig cuz he wore"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "like a wiggy toupe on top of his thing"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "and you'll see Victor's hair come down"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "over his forehead like this and there's"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "a wig on top of it. Jeff Broadreet says"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "he had to tuck in his ponytail and I"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "froze going back to what because we're"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "we're thinking this guy is a scientist"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "to some degree inside these programs. I"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "immediately boom think of Eric Davis who"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "said that these scientists in the"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "program again what what did we just talk"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "about two people making comments who"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "don't know each other from 10 20 years"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "eras apart and they say the same thing"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "that Eric Davis said these scientists in"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "these programs weren't IBM types Eric"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "Davis said quote they wore sandals"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "sometimes no shoes ponytails and they"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "walked around humming Pink Floyd music"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "and I went this direct Jeff Broadre just"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "kind of gave me a nugget here. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "He's backing up what what Eric Eric Dr."}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Davis said about these insiders and that"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "really just like stiffened my back like"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "okay we might be on to something here."}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "I'm still again trying to find the"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "truth. I' been trying to prove I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "talking to your viewers that this was a"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "hoax. I went at this as this was a hoax"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "and I beg your viewers to please"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "understand that. So they put the tape"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "out. It gets a lackluster um response."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> I just realized that it came on the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "heels of the John Benet murder ra murder"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "investigation and all of that hoopla. So"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "it was and people call this the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "forgotten documentary because not a lot"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "of people really truly remember it"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "coming out. It came out on the UPN"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "network. I thought for it was Fox. It"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "was the UPN network talking about the"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "money. I talk about the money with this"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "investigation. Follow the money. I come"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "to find out in my investigation was put"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "up by Richer Entertainment on the UPN"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "network, a startup network on a program"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "called Strange Universe. And they used"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "this as a one-hour special on this"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Strange Universe. It was like a weekly"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "episodic conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "conspiracy show. I research and find out"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "that everyone's got short short pockets."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "There isn't a lot of money. I've heard"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "uh um uh stories uh uh anecdotal that"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "people weren't getting paid by Richer"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Entertainment. Um so my point is this a"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "very elaborate animatronic alien by"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "anyone."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> Sure. Okay. I see."}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> In 96 short money Victor's got to get"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "paid."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:09", "text": ">> Yeah. He's not getting he's not getting"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "millions of dollars for this. No. all"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "the all the production company and"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Rocket Pictures"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "got short dough. Even Jeff Broadreet"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "said I don't think"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": ">> Tom Coleman got a whole lot of money for"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "this. So my point is"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": ">> doesn't make sense. Was there enough"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "money to produce and and people hate"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "when I say this, an animatronic bean"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "that we think would have to have had"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "about five operators with remote control"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "cables, dragon skin, rubber skin? Um,"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "would there be enough money to create"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "this? People were telling me it could be"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "done in somebody's garage between 10 and"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "there are some people saying a retail"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "animatronic shop would have charged"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "$80,000. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": ">> Was there $80,000 back then? If I what I"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "just described, people aren't getting"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "paid. It's a short bunch. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "I'm just putting it out there that there"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "is a money aspect here. I'm not running"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "away from the money. I'm telling you"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "there is."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> That's a good point."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": ">> There is a money. Follow the money here."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "And I the number one rule of journalism"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "and I did that and I'm saying to myself,"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "I've had FX people come to the side and"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "said, \"Do you know how much money?\""}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": ">> Yeah. even at the low even at the low"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "end uh because I I'm not going to assume"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "it was animatronic cuz um you know at"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "the low end it would have been"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "manipulated by multiple people you"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "muppet style um you know even even then"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "it seems like the experts in puppetry"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "acknowledge that it was skillfully done"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "right that like they now the experts in"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "puppetry don't believe for a second this"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "an alien But again,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> that's not true."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": ">> Well, the ones in the in the movie,"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> correct?"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> Um, in the documentary 97, those two"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "gentlemen, they they don't believe it,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "but it's also potentially, as Victor"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "does point out eventually, in their best"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "interest to say that I can make it"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "better."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": ">> And the one and the one animatronic"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "person said, now think about this. I'm a"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "I'm a retired car dealer. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": ">> If I tell you, \"Well, I I know that's a"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "Toyota Corolla, but there's something"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "about it that I don't understand that I"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "can't say it's a Toyota Corolla.\" You'd"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "be like, \"What are you?\" And are you"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": ">> Are you"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": ">> Because there was that. They were"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "confused. Well,"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> special effects person said, \"It does"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "one move.\" And this is a top Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "special effects person says on camera,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "\"But it does one move. I can't figure"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "out how they did it.\" Chrisell thought"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "the alien exhibited movements that would"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "be difficult to fake."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": ">> There are there are moments when"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "it it this looks very real and and I"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "don't know how they did certain little"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "things about this. Um so right right"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "when I would say that it's definitely a"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "puppet. he he moves a certain way or"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "he'll or he'll lift up in the frame and"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "all that and all these little things are"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "important to the you know"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "to the character of him. This"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "animatronic alien does a this. It's"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "moving this way while it's turning its"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "head this way. It's coughing. There"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "can't be a ha hand inside the mouth"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "because the chin is only three fingers"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "wide. you could not fit. And um we've"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "showed part of it where there is really"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "no one in the back of the head from what"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "we can see. I'm just speculating here."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "So it would have to be a fivep person"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "animatronic. We show the mouth going"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": ">> open like that which is which is which"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "is alarming to me."}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": ">> I'm just simply stating this. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "trying to the money for that high tech"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> obviously high-tech alien. I I just"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "don't see where it came from. That's all"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": ">> it. It's it's the one argument that can"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "be made. You know, obviously we're"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "ruling out CGI, so the only argument"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "left is puppeteering. That is the only"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "argument left. And if you look at it, it"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "does seem like either a incredibly"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "skillful"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "uh puppeteering act or animatronics like"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "these at the low end. uh a renowned"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "puppeteer uh behind and plus uh even"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "making it like you said in a way that"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "you could manipulate it might in itself"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "be a feat to behold. And so and he's"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "never come forward"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:30", "text": ">> and and exactly and and you know what"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "that's like much like the um the idea of"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "you know the and we'll get into this"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "maybe a little bit later but the skinny"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "Bob video that keeps cropping up as"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "well. Um, a lot of people say the same"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "thing about that is like there's no set"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "photos, there's no costume leaks,"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "there's no mold anywhere like like mold"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "of a cast of of any of the costumes. And"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "and so to me I always think you know"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "even if you look at um what was it X"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "Files one of the movies I think it was"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "or where there was this lab of bodies"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "that they had you know and eventually"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "uh set photos would surface and then"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "people would share them as if they were"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "real and then they debunk them because"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "they no it's from the set of exiles."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:13", "text": ">> Exactly. But just to just say that like"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "when you're on these sets and they're"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "quite elaborate, you know, you can go"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "from anywhere from like 10 to 50 people"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "at a time being a part of that. And"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "that's a lot to contain for such a, you"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "know, for somebody just trying to get a"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "small check."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": ">> Um, 30 years."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> The puppeteer."}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:32", "text": ">> Yeah. No debunks."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> Craft catering. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> The accountant, the wardrobe. I drove"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "the people to the studio, the people at"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "the studio or the sound stage, the"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "person that made that bizarre monitor,"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "which I think is the bombshell."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:46", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": ">> the heart the heart monitor."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> No one in Hollywood, including the"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "animatronic person, has come forward at"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "a pool party to try and make it with"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "some girl to be like,"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": ">> I made that be I that has never happened"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "with any any hoax that if if there is,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "I'm I'm wrong."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "It's a little ludicrous to think that it"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "was done for money. I think I think that"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "argument we can probably rule out. As"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "you said, it's it doesn't really add up."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": ">> I'm so glad I'm here."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": ">> But the argument that You're welcome."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "But the argument that still does hold up"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "for a lot of people is SCOP, right? That"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "is for that is the biggest argument to"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "be made about this case. So why would"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "someone want to create a SCO up? Well,"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "if you look at the day or the date that"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "this video came out, it was a few short"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "months after the Virginia crash that"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "happened in Virginia, Brazil, where the"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "American military air force showed up in"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "Brazil to haul off um, you know, a bunch"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "of aliens and retrieve a downed craft."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "You know, what better way to sort of,"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "you know, misdirect the audience is to"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "leak an alleged interaction with a being"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "and and have people sort of question."}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "I'm not saying that that's the case. Uh"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "I'm not saying that it's real, that it's"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "not real, that it's a scop. I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "for me, the only valid argument"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "other than it being real is some insane"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "scop. And that to me is just as valuable"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "in this context because what are you"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "covering up? You know what I mean? Like"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "why would you spend so much money in"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "SCOPing people into thinking aliens are"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "real? What are you what what are you"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "actually hiding that's worse than"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "aliens?"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "And so yeah, that's that's just the only"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "point I wanted to make there."}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": ">> Thank you for answer bringing up the the"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "conclusion of my No, I I I completely"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "agree that um and I hope people"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "appreciate this that after all of this"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "money and all of this time, I I can"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "conclusively say that this was filmed by"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "the government whether it was a scop or"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "whether it was an actual extr"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "extraterrestrial. I have had two"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "insiders and we will get to this who"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "tell me you know don't one of them is"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Steven Greer don't be disappointed when"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "when you find out it was a recreation of"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "an actual event a scop um you you well"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "first of all you're not going to hurt my"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "feelings because I don't care I I want"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "to know the truth"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> and I am telling you because the coding"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "on the bottom the DNI department of"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "naval intelligence which"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": ">> so proud of my me and my team for"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "proving Bob Lazar's story on that angle"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "that the in the the number 27 that there"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "is uh that I am 99% positive that it was"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "filmed by the United States government"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "if you want me to shock everyone and and"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "and 25% now that it could be it could"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "have been done for a sign up of a yeah"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "we couldn't show you a real alien but we"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "created this and we did try and have"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "disclosure right"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:51", "text": ">> what do you mean you want to put me in"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "Levvenworth for 30 years. I I did"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "approve that that video release. I I"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "tried to show you,"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": ">> but I don't I didn't have the security"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "clearance from the president to show you"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "a real alien. We are we are definitely"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "um under the the the distinct"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "possibility that that is a possibility."}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:15", "text": ">> Is do you think that if it was a SCOP"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "that Victor was kept in the dark?"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "Because for it to be a successful scop,"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "Victor getting caught lying would have"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "been a big oversight. Um, they would"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "have had to kept him in the dark. So, he"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "by all means thinks that it is a real"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "alien and was being told so."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> Good great question. We were we have"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "been told"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> like a planned leak."}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": ">> Of course, we we have been told that"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "that Victor was chosen to do this if it"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "was a if it was a scotia. I only had two"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "people telling me it was a scot, not"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "Greer and this other person that said,"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "\"Don't be disappointed.\" I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "actual people."}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:51", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": ">> That Victor was a disenfranchised"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "employee. What's funny about the Bob"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "Lazar story"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "is that I have basically threaded thread"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "put together this mosaic of S4 and this"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "draconian"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "um oppressive regime down there that"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "really turned a lot of people this cabal"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "into getting somehow information out"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "from S4 to the public. And when you talk"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "about the dracon the draconian security"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "measures that Bob Lazar talks about, we"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "have we have multiple people telling us"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "that that has that is something that is"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "that turned people off to to um to want"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "to to leak information. And we have two"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "people telling us that Victor was"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "disenfranchised"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> and that someone from Majestic 12 as"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "part of a public acclamation program."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "I'm just telling you what I was told on"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> that"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "it was allowed to happen. Wink wink. I"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "don't believe that. I I don't think any"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "I don't think intelligence"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": ">> lets you I I don't think intelligence"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "does this. And you know, go ahead and"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "take it. You know, I I've got a great"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "I've got a great um quotation. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "I'm so glad I I I in classified programs"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "when you have security lapses, it's at"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "the end of this the the classified"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "program, offices relocate, access lists"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "are updated, personnel shifts and"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "oversight changes. Victor said this was"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "there was a drop in security,"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> to go from analog to digital and that's"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "when he was allowed to copy this"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "footage. So, just to catch people up, um"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "the tape itself, the reason why he was"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "allowed, because this is a big piece of"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "information here that people were like,"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "why would they just allow him to take a"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "VHS of an alien and sneak it out?"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": ">> It wasn't a VHS tape, but go ahead."}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": ">> Sorry, my bad. What kind of tape was it?"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> Well, that's that's the other thing with"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "goes to the government filming. We we"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "have experts,"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": ">> one of them from National Geographic"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "that said definite original 16"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "millimeter. The only people"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": ">> it was 16 mm."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": ">> Only people filming on 16 millimeter in"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "1991 or even 96 would have been the"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "government. It was very hard, very"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "cumbersome. We can't find any um"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "producers that would film on 16 mm,"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": ">> Um so and and but we did find out and"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "the government wasn't digitized yet,"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": ">> right? You see the old Roswell cameraman"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "with the two reels that was still being"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "used when when uh Victor said this was"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "filmed in '91 which we we have also been"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "told with the with the leaked statement"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "that I will talk about that April 22nd"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "of 1991 and in '91 yes they were using"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "VHS tape in beta max um they were also"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "the audiovisisual department for many"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "government programs was still using 16"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "mm"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": ">> and so Then during the transfer of tape"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "to digital, which you know, most media"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "companies had to deal with, well, every"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "media company that had to stay afloat,"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "basically everybody that had anything on"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "tape had to eventually digitize it. And"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "it was a it's a laborious process. I've"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "done it myself. I've got real canisters"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "down here that I've had digitized. It's"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "expensive. It's tough."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:16", "text": ">> Uh it's not perfect even today. And so"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "during that time, yeah, you could see"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "because imagine smuggling something out"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "it would have been just the highest"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "security ever. So it would have had to"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "have happened during a time where there"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "was potential confusion. Uh perhaps like"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "a government shutdown or like any"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "anything in in this pocket would have"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "been like the perfect storm to get one"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "of these things out."}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it was actually um again,"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "we'll get to the the main leaker. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": ">> Who I called the chairman the letter"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "that he wrote, the email that he wrote"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "me,"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:54", "text": ">> but this was let out of S4. And that's"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "when I went cuz I knew you couldn't get"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "anything out of these unauthorized"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "special access program. You're weighed"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "in the nude. You're when you come, you"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "wait in the nude when you leave. Fact."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": ">> Nobody's sneaking out a DVD between"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "their butt cheeks. I'm sorry. And and"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "Victor alludes to that also."}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> Um and I'm not jumping forward in the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "story, but when I"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "talk about the email that I got of the"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "whole provenence of this tape was the"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "Area 51 cameraman was escorted back to"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "the Groom Lake photo lab. He made two"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "copies of this 16 mm film, snipped three"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "minutes of it, put it in a burn bag in a"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "GSA approved vault, and that burn bag"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "was snuck off of the Nellis test and"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "training range. That's how so Victor um"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "did he obuscate and lie a little bit"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "that he was the active agent? I think he"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "was protect protecting that cameraman"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": ">> or protecting his own identity."}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": ">> Could he be the cameraman? Now we the"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "the name we've got of Victor. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "jumping forward. We have him on the log."}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "The same log that I saw Bob Lazar's name"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "which has Victor working for EG&G."}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "Um uh which which did"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:07", "text": ">> which built Area 51,"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": ">> right? which did everything. You know"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "what else they did for the government?"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:12", "text": ">> Highly top secret audiovisisual"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "documentation."}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:15", "text": ">> Yeah, makes sense."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> So, we are very convinced that Victor"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "was a mid to lowlevel audiovisisual."}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "Maybe even the manager or the director,"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> right? He had access"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": ">> he had access to films, but he also said"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "that he saw the being."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": ">> Correct. Well, if you're if you're part"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "of the filming or managing the filming,"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "you're going to be have to be read into"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "this program and you're going to"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "actually have to have some contact with"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "the bee or be in the room"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": ">> when it's being filmed to make sure"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": ">> cuz otherwise why would a guy with a"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "ponytail,"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:47", "text": ">> you know, just be hanging around this"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "highly sensitive area, right? You know,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "you would have to be some type of"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "expert. And the fact that you have the"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "film and you say that you saw this being"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "I mean put two and two together. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "you're probably"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": ">> right. And Victor Victor talks about"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "philosophy, the end of the world. I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "not jumping ahead here. Uh this I I want"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "to make this great point about um uh him"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "being probably the director, manager,"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "mid-level audiovisisual person for EG&G."}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "Um he talks about esquetology, the end"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "of the the study of the end of the world"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "and religion and especially what comes"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "back in 08 Mayan calendars"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:30", "text": ">> just a just a pretty interesting story."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "U we probably believe he had some PhD in"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "in in uh in film. Um, and we find out"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "that people that get their doctorate or"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "their masters in film also, most of"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "them, a lot of them, those people also"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "have a a double major or a follow-up"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "major in philosophy. I didn't make this"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "up. I read this on the internet. So, I"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "just find I just, you know, and he"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "because he seemed a little"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:55", "text": ">> philosophical,"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": ">> a little too philosophical for a guy"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "that was a cameraman at at the NBC"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "station. And then I just when I read"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "that on Google, it was just again one of"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "those things I'm like, \"Wow, is this"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "really coming together?\""}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> I would uh I would I would give you"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "that, but I would also push back a"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "little bit in thinking that uh when he"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "did mention that, he also mentioned that"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "he was nearing the end of his life due"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "to potentially an illness,"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:16", "text": ">> right? And the director said he didn't"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "believe that,"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": ">> right? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": ">> which was a counterintelligence"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "operation of I'm dying."}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": ">> Sure. But that's also don't look for me,"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "you know, but that also would be when"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "you get more philosophical."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> Totally. Totally. So yeah, so that"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "that's um so that that's the story of"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "how Victor went went to went to Rocket"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Pictures. He they they go on they go on"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "ArtBell to promote the the the uh the"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "DVD because the the the viewership was"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "not up to par. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": ">> Um on the UPN network"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> and this actor, remember everyone's, oh,"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "there's got to be an actor. this hired"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "actor are is arguing for a minute and a"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "half that he was given the wrong phone"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "number and you're an actor and you're"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "and you're upset about a wrong phone"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "number you can't get through and this"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "what we have found out about Victor this"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "pendactic personality pendactic this"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "precision mentality it's this way it's"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "the rules it's the regulation it's spec"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "specivity"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "um that really shown through. I I just"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "don't think an actor would argue for in"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "a minute and a half with Art Bell about"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "the number being wrong. And I found that"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "I found that stupifying. We ran and I'm"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "not getting ahead of myself, but"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": ">> we we hired two people from the Reed"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "School of Lie Deception in Chicago. Two"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "police officers. And we also gave this"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "to a retired FBI agent to watch Victor"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "to his for his verbiage."}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> Can't really his body language. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "Yeah, but we can we can maybe analyze"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "his verbiage. In the Reed School of Lie"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "Detection, we got two people that two"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "police officers that graduated to look"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "at Victor and a retired FBI agent who's"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "a private investigator. Please don't"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "look up in Chicago a retired FBI agent,"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "a private investigator in and stalk him."}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "I'm just saying the FBI agent went,"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "\"Stop. Do you think this guy's an"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "actor?\" You know, when Victor's talking"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "about the primitive conceptual"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "framework, Yeah. It's a talking from an"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "alien to talk to a human being about the"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "the dynamics of space travel and yeah"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "and and is is would be like putting"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "calculus in the greets and scrunches of"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "a chimpanzee and and the FBI the former"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "FBI agent he goes I I don't know who"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "this guy is but this"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> stop you're wasting the the police"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "officers"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": ">> um said the same thing and the one of"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "them came in with that word pedactic"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "personality. So, I'm reading all about I"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "have a degree in counseling psychology"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "and I'm reading about that type of"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "personality trait. Do you know what I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "reading over and over again what the"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "majority of of occupations that have"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "that trait? Scientist, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "don't do a a a dash of this and a p a"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "pinch of thallium and and element and"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "you just throw in a little bit of it's"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> not very he's not he's not socially um"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:11", "text": ">> he's not he's not a"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": ">> he's not John Stewart. It's the"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "generalizer. Sure. No, he's Yeah, you"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "can tell. You can tell. And And what was"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "interesting about the Art Bell interview"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "and I would, you know, fascinating."}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "Yeah. I would encourage everybody to"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "first of all, you know, go check out the"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "original documentary. Um, but then also"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "follow up. It's a great followup. Yes."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:31", "text": ">> Uh, with the Art Bell and Art Bell"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "obviously the predecessor of all of"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "this, you know, he is he is the guy. Um,"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "and even Artbell, you know, admits that"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "it took 20, 30 minutes for him to"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "warm up to Victor because at first he's"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "like, I'm not really buying anything."}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "This guy's very cold, reserved, shut"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "down, being kind of rude. And then after"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "30 minutes when I guess Victor felt"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "comfortable with our because he's Art"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "Bell had a wonderful way of making you"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "feel comfortable, you know, his his"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "voice was so soothing and understanding"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": ">> and his ego."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. and just kind of"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "like allowed him to get comfortable. He"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "started opening up and then and then"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "Artbell to his credit was like, you"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "know, I I believe him."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": ">> Art Bell believed him. You know, that's"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "a for me as far as anecdotal evidence"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "goes, that's a big one for me because I"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "I think, you know, um he spoke to a lot"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "of people and you can you can just"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "really put your it raised my conviction"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "level that this man was at least"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "believing that he was telling the truth."}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "And and I I say that because, you know,"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "maybe he was fed something that he"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "doesn't know not to be true. And yeah,"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "that interview was really revealing, but"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "also like you said, he was quite upset"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "about the small sort of almost"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "uh just things that didn't matter. And"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "you're like, why is he so upset about"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": ">> I'm so glad I'm sitting with you. I I"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "mean that sincerely. Does an actor go on"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "ArtBell and answer and I know this for a"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "fact. Answer an hour and a half of"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "unrehearsed Sure."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": ">> questions. And the one of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "things he's pissed off about is yes,"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "we're not telling the public about ex"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "the extraterrestrial phenomenon, but one"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "of the things that really pissed him off"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "was um people that worked down in S4 had"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "little personal momentos and trinkets on"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "their desk and they were told not to."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:23", "text": ">> Does an actor even think of that?"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:26", "text": ">> Yeah. He talks about Shawn David"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "Morton's newsletter and he's correcting"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "things in it. An actor from CIA or"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "central casting is reading Shawn David"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "Morton's deli."}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:36", "text": ">> I don't believe it's an actor. I don't"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "think"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": ">> I don't think very many people I don't"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "think very many people believe it's an"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "actor. Th those who do obviously haven't"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "done their due diligence, but I I think"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> Thank you, Chris. I think that, you"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "know, the potentiality for this being a"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "legitimate person close to the program"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "given some passage material, he believes"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "it to be true. I think that potential is"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "still there. Um, you know, so like I"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "said, like you said, I think this does"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "have something to do with the"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "government. Either it's true or the the"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "opposite side of the spectrum to me is"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "just as fascinating. Why would you want"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "this to be out there? Are you preparing"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "people? Are you are you simply"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "misdirecting people? Like what is the"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "reason there? And that that to me is"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "equally as maybe not equally as"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "interesting. Obviously a real alien is"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "much more interesting, but it"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> it bothers me more because you're taking"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "my tax dollars and making a hoax video"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": ">> to deceive me. Even if you think you're"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "preparing me, you're making taking my"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "tax dollars. I worked my butt off my"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "entire life and you're taking my money"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "and creating a hoaxed video. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "deceiving people. I I I I understand you"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "want to prepare us, but you're deceiving"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "people right there. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "that to me. Yeah. I don't know what that"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "is. It is bizarre. It is bizarre."}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:53", "text": ">> There's aliens. We all know there's"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "aliens. Come on. But you We've got"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "people hiring special effects people to"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "create a really good animatronic alien"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "to deceive us. That to me is creepier"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "and is more bothersome some than some"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "alien in a random underground facility"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "being filmed."}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh both both are bizarre, that's"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "for sure. Okay, so the story the story"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "gets out doesn't get traction. He goes"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "on Art Bell,"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:17", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": ">> Kind of still angry that people haven't"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": ">> caught on to this. So he goes back to,"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "you know, the producers who first"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "documented this and really goes off on"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "him. He wears a mask in this interview"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "and he's kind of like just, you can"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "tell, really pissed off and breathing"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "heavily in that mask and there's this"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "fly buzzing around him. You just see his"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "his annoyance come through, you know,"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "and he's just annoyed that there's two"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "people here and stuff"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:44", "text": ">> that he's wearing a rubber mask. That"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "he's wearing a mask."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> How much credibility do I have when I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "wearing a rubber mask?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": ">> Exactly. And he's just kind of fed up"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "because and and he really kind of goes"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "off on eufologists"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "and grifters and, you know, and and"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "that's not something normally a grifter"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "would do. You know, you you don't see"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "somebody who's out there. Let's see"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "somebody who's out there and um just"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "screaming at people for for not doing"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "the work they're supposed to be. Do they"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "call themselves researchers? I gave them"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "everything. They're not doing anything."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "Like to me that really raised again my"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "conviction level that think he believes"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "what he's saying."}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:26", "text": ">> It's been 11 years since I brought out"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "that tape. What followup has there been?"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "Who among these socalled eupfologists,"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "these self-proclaimed"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "investigators, show me one of them"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "that's demanded information about S4"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "under the Freedom of Information Act."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "Show me one of them that has seriously"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "attempted"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "to confirm or deny the existence of the"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "Alien Interview Program."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "All they care about is talking among"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "themselves and making videotapes, making"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "documentaries, promoting themselves."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": ">> Well, you and I hoax something. Do we go"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "back seven years later and cajol people"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "to prove it it's a hoax? That that never"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "rang true to me. I I just find I just"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "find that impossible that a that a"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "hoaxer would come back and conel and and"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "um be combative with with with people."}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "Um, again, he's mad at people. He's mad"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "at the UFO community, even the ones that"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "take it that say it's real, cuz he says,"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "\"You're taking it for face value.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:31", "text": ">> That pendactic personality. Research why"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "you think it's real."}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:34", "text": ">> Absolutely blew my mind."}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:36", "text": ">> Yeah, definitely. There were people in"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "that documentary who who took it at face"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "value that it was real. And he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "like, \"You just got lucky.\""}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:41", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:42", "text": ">> That's what he said. He's like, \"You got"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "lucky that it was real and that you"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "reacted that way.\" He's like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "didn't do any research.\" And if it's so"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "easy to make that alien puppet, to all"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "the special effects people, make one. Go"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "in your garage and make one."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": ">> So to this day, anyways, this video to"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "me and to everyone else on the internet,"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "you know, I've I've shared a lot of"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "videos and a lot of things. So of you."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "And it's it's one of those videos that"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "when you when you read comments from"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "balanced individuals, it seems to it"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "seems to surface a lot more um"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "conviction of it being true than many of"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "the other videos, save perhaps Skinny"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "Bob. Skinny Bob's another big contention"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "for a lot of people. And I'm still kind"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "of on the fence. I'm like I guess my I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "I'm around my my conviction level"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "dropped for Skinny Bob quite a bit. Um"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "it being authentic an authentic alien."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "Um again not completely out of the realm"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "of it being a scop. Um but it did drop a"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "little bit. Um but I'm roughly 50/50 on"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "that one as well. This one I'm a little"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "higher conviction um because of the"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "nature of the video being like one shot."}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "What part of this video for you raises"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "your conviction level on this being"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "true? And what's one part that lowers"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "it? And I'll I'll start with mine."}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": ">> Great question."}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:03", "text": ">> So, the one that raises it for me is"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "obviously"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "the uh the movements of this being and"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "then perhaps some of the stuff in the"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "foreground that we're seeing. the the"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "things that lower my conviction for this"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "specific video is a the lighting. But"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "again, that can be,"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": ">> you know, that can tell people that's"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "not the way Victor brought that film."}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:24", "text": ">> It was lighter."}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:25", "text": ">> It was bluish."}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:27", "text": ">> Yeah, it was bluish."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": ">> Bluish. And no one, why is it so dark?"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "That's a puppet cuz it's the room's"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "dark. That's not the way Victor brought"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "that video. They did that for theatrical"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "dramatic effect because it looks so much"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "better than the blue"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": ">> uh closed circuit television style"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "Victor. Victor brought a blue hue and"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "and you can find this on the on the"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "internet. You can see the alien's"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "thorax, his arms, um not his hands. Uh"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "yeah, that is not the way Victor brought"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "that in."}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:54", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Point point taken."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:57", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:01", "text": ">> Um but the other thing was the doctor"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "behind him. And this for me uh as just a"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "body language observer. There were two"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "doctors that stepped in. One of them uh"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "had a flashlight and you know was"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "looking in the mouth, looking in the"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "eyes perhaps to see you know dilation or"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "whatever it was. Hemorrhaging. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "Hemorrhaging even in the nostrils if"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "there was hemorrhaging if he was choking"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "and they were wiping um the mouth you"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "know there was stuff coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "mouth they were wiping this. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "that's all very compelling. The other"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "gentleman"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:29", "text": ">> Wilfford Web Web Wilson"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> who's this?"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:34", "text": ">> How does John Stewart know?"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> Okay. But the other gentleman who"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> died in Watsonville, California, 2014,"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "talked to"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:38", "text": ">> How do you know this? You talked to his"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "wife."}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:41", "text": ">> I got I got the whole story to tell you."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:42", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> No, come on. Let's go. But I'm saying,"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> so what about him? You didn't"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:46", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": ">> he touches the bean weird."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": ">> He's not really doing anything. And it"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "seems like he's doing exactly what I"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "would do if I were playing to the"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "camera. And that's that's what I read."}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "I'm like, this guy's like he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "like doesn't know what to do with his"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "hands. Kind of like pretending to be a"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "doctor. If I look at it through that"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "lens, that's how I see it. Now, I also"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "don't know how I would react if I had to"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "fix a choking alien. I don't know that I"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "wouldn't also act exactly like he did,"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "right? But"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:15", "text": ">> am I going to touch something that's"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "going to hurt the alien? Are you ginger"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "with it? Um,"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:19", "text": ">> are there people with guns looking at me"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "right now? Like, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": ">> Dan Bur says how frail the in the the"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "beans were. Victor tells us that this is"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "this is bean was at the end of its"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "interview cycle. Um, so it was it was"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "obviously going to be retired."}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "Obviously, you could tell the the bean"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "was slightly infirmed, especially with"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "the the respiratory respiratory illness"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "that he that he had. And I agree with"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": ">> Yeah. So, that uh for me that was that"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "was I think the biggest contention is"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "just body language of this uh second"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "doctor."}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:52", "text": ">> Uh other than that, I really can't um"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "find much to to really go on, but what"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "about you? What are what's one thing"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "that raised your conviction level"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "looking at this video? What's one thing"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "that lowered it?"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": ">> That it it is such a casually shot"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "video."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": ">> You know, somebody made a great a great"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "statement to me. Um uh"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "it that when you're a the government and"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "you're filming uh you're filming"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "something, you're there to document"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "something. You're not there to make, you"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "know, uh uh Miley Cyrus look in the"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "perfect lighting. That's not your job"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "for as part of the government"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "audiovisisual docu documentation which I"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "think is a great point."}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:34", "text": ">> The fact that there is a red stool that"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "you could buy at Kmart in Las Vegas in"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "the '9s sitting off to the side in front"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "of the table. Nobody nobody realizes"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "this. A stool. You've just left a stool"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "there in this hoax video. The hoaxed"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "video. You spend obviously spending a"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "lot of money to to to hoax it as the"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "Hollywood producer. You don't have the"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "medics in pressurized suits cuz you know"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "wouldn't you put them in pressure? They"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "come in in short sleeve scrubs."}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "Obviously knowing that maybe the bean's"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "not a contaminant to humans."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:06", "text": ">> You have a monitor that still to this"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "day no one knows what it is and that I"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "could talk about the monitor for for"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:11", "text": ">> the erratic heartbeat."}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": ">> Yeah, we're going to get we're going to"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "get into that."}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:17", "text": ">> All of this this you have two military"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "people in the foreshadow."}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "Nobody even realizes these two men were"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "there until until Victor talks about it."}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "Until a guy in England who were enemies"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "named Andrew Burlington shows the patch"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "the patch on this army officer the"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "combat patch is like a dragon a horse a"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "wing that I have gone through 3,000"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "military patches. So this this this"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "producer has now created its own"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "military patch that no one can see. you"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "emlazing DNI on the bottom of the film,"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "a abbreviation of a Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "Intelligence that no one can look up in"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "96 when it came out. We can't look it up"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "now. You can't look up that agency even"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "though I've proven that it exists. Why"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "would you do that? Course."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": ">> So, how did you prove it existed?"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:09", "text": ">> Well, I mean, if you want to jump"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "around, that's that's okay."}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": ">> For me, I'm the DNI. Okay. I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "at, you know, I'm looking obviously the"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "only uh the only"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> semblance of this is is the Department"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "of Naval Intelligence, which was on, you"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "know, Bob's payubs. Okay."}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> And a lot of people said, \"No, it's not"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "even a a department or whatever.\" And"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "then then I had John Ramirez sit here"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "and he said, you know, sometimes it's a"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "flash ID,"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": ">> so it looks like an official department,"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "but it allows them to sort of go"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "undercover into these darker programs."}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> So proud of this. Prove Bob Lazar's"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "story of the DNI at least."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:47", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. DNI. Okay. Number one,"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "he is an author. He is a school teacher,"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "family of six. He's a got a degree in"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "invertebrae"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "um uh anthropology, you know, real"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "dummy. And a Navy aviator. And he's an"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "author. And we are talking about another"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "subject matter."}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:05", "text": ">> And I went, \"Wait a minute. Uh Michael,"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "um this is text. Still have the text."}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "What is the DNI?\" I want to be clear,"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "Michael. Not the Office of Naval"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "Intelligence, the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "Intelligence. Is it real? Yep. I'm like"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "again, the depart. He goes, I know"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "exactly what you you're talking about."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "I'm like, why can't I find it? He said,"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "it's an agency buried inside the"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "Department of Navy. You're never going"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "to find it. I'm like, holy [ __ ] to call"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "BOB LAZARD. BOB, I I'M I'M proving this."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "A Navy aviator. Can you tell me how you"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "know this? Before I went to Nate, he's"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "typing this to me. Before I went to"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "Naval Aviator School in Pensacola,"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Florida, two agents of the DI DNI"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "approached me to be an agent with them"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "and I declined. I wanted to fly planes"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "for the Navy. It's a naval aviator"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "telling us the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "Intelligence, not office department, is"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "real. It's buried as an agency in the"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "Department of Navy. And he writes, got"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "this on text. They're the spooks for the"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "for the Navy. It's like their CIA arm"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "for their Navy."}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:11", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:14", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": ">> The One thing I will ask of you"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:18", "text": ">> when I leave, can you please tell"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "everyone how much I credit the internet"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "for helping me,"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "Inspector Cluso, through this six years."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "If it wasn't for the internet, my"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "co-pilot, I would be nowhere with this."}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Fine."}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> Okay. That's all I ask. The the internet"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "angels have been awesome. Mr. Stewart,"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "hi. My name is um Sean. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "he wants me to say his last name. First"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "name is Sean. S E an. He goes, I have a"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "Canadian"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "security conference brochure of the the"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "listing of events."}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "And on it is a Colonel Carl Prinsow"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "of the Department of Naval Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": ">> Sends it to me. I have it was in my"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "documentary. I I I'm like"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": ">> I've emailed this guy five times. He"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "will not return my email. Don't tell him"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "what it is. So on a on a conference"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "brochure, we have US Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "Intelligence. His name is Carl Prinslaw."}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "And I mention names. I mention"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "facilities. I mention I will give you"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "codes. I don't gatekeep anything and I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "proud of that. And what what what I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "would like to do with this conversation"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "is to tell you people to tell you names"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "of facilities to let you know that this"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "is all this is all real. So that's two"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "things with the Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:41", "text": ">> What was his name again? I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "write this down. I need to"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:44", "text": ">> Carl."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:50", "text": ">> Prince P R I N Z L O V. I've got the I"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "can send you the"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": ">> Okay. I can send you the Canadian"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "brochure. I've got all 22 pages of this"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "conference. You know, it's like you get"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "a little brochure of today we'll be"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "having dinner. After dinner,"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:02", "text": ">> you know, Chris Ramsey from the DoD will"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "speak."}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:06", "text": ">> Shocking."}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:10", "text": ">> This is going to sound like I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "tell a joke at a bar, but it's not."}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "A direct director level former CIA"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "uh what would you call them? member"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "personnel"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:25", "text": ">> owns a micro brewery with his wife who"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "was in linguistics for the CIA."}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:30", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:33", "text": ">> My cousins take me after deer hunting"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:36", "text": ">> and um they're like ah my my cousin's"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "into aliens and John this is I don't"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "want to say his name"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": ">> and he told me what he did for the CIA."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "This is like director level, not a"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "director s, but he is"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> on the food top of the food chain. And"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "we're sitting, we're talking and I know"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "I catching him off guard. I said, \"Can I"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "ask you one quick question?\" I'll never"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "forget. He was sitting like this"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:57", "text": ">> and he said, \"Yeah.\" Um, and he was"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "looking away from the bar. He was on a"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "bar stool. Bar was jammed. I said, \"Is"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "real?\" I want to be clear, not the"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "office. The Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "Intelligence, Chris, he went like this."}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's it's a it's a"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "real it's a real thing. And he caught"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "himself. He gets up. He goes, \"I'll be"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "right back.\" He goes into his back"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "office and my cousins and I are looking"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "at each other. They don't know what DNI"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "means. But he's I'm waiting and I'm"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "waiting. I'm like, \"Is this guy dropping"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "a dime on me? Is he, you know, is he"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "going to himself, why did I JUST DO"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "THAT? WHY did It was very, very, very"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "bizarre.\""}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:36", "text": ">> I talked to his wife and we'll get into"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "my emails being stolen. She tells me"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "that she thinks it's the NSA. I don't"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "believe in aliens. You're crazy. So on"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "and so forth. And we are getting into"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "almost like a a shouting match with each"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "other."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "And I said, um, do did do you know, is"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "the Department of Naval Intelligence a"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "real a real thing? She's like, \"Yeah, it"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "is. It absolutely is.\" And I'm just"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "like, \"Well, I've got two CIA people"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "that told me this. I've got a naval a"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "naval aviator and now I've got somebody"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "uh Carl Prinsow uh live prince whatever"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "his name was uh that he's on a"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "conference brochure with the department"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "of naval intelligence and I and and"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "again um I I have proven I think without"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "beyond of a shadow of a doubt that the"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "department of naval intelligence is"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "real. Bob Lazar said it was the the"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "company that hired him. I found out that"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "it's one of the three-letter agencies"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "that runs a program under the umbrella."}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "I found out that they were there asking"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "their set of questions that there was"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "literally a conga line of threeletter"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "agency people waiting to go into that"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "interview suite to ask that being"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "questions. Now whether it was that"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "interview whether that's the way it"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "happens with all of the interviews"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "because we you and I believe there's a"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "percentage that that could be a scop but"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "during these interviews there are"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "agencies waiting outside the in the"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "hallway to waiting to insert their"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "questions to this being often times"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:12", "text": ">> well that's also lines up with um"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "was it Carl Wolf"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "um there was a deathbed confession years"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "ago go."}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": ">> Carl Wolf, do you know is it Carl Wolf?"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "I believe it was. And uh this gentleman"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "said that he was he went to church uh"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "was a very niche church. I think it was"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "the uh Church of World of God or Church"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "of the World or something. It was like"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "some almost like a sect to like some"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "small church. And the person he went to"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "church with worked at Area 51 S4."}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:49", "text": ">> I'm listening. And the the guy he so the"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "guy on his deathbed he was all you know"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "he had TSI um he had pretty deep"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "clearances cuz I think what he did was"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "like I just paperwork something you know"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "very classified but mainly paperwork and"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "he's like he calls him up one day he's"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "like hey and he's telling this to Danny"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "she on his sort of deathbed he didn't"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "even tell his wife this is him in his"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "he's hooked up to tubes and everything"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "and he's and he's telling Danny she this"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> and He said that I was invited to go to"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "Area 51. He's like, \"I don't know.\" You"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "know, the guy wanted to show me some"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "stuff around there. He had clearances"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "already, so it was all good. And he"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "takes him and then they go to S4 and"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "they take an elevator. Uh they go down"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "and get to a place, they start walking"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "and he sees a bunch of underground"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "hangers with crafts levitating off the"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "ground. And then they they go into this"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "room where there's a you know, one-sided"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "mirror and there's a being sitting"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "there. And he said, \"Do you want to ask"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "it anything?\" And he goes, \"No.\" You"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "know, being religious, he thinks this is"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "some demon. Right?"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:55", "text": ">> And he goes, \"Okay, I'll be right back.\""}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "And then he goes in and he kind of like"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "sits there in silence with it for a"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "second. Comes back out with a stack of"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "uh like papers and says, you know, he's"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "done, but now he has uh these are all"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "previous answers that we were given. And"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "he starts reading through them. And like"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "the answers were, you know, where are"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "you from? And you know, they say, you"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "know, we're we're part of the same"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "galaxy, but our mission is to monitor"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "this planet, yada yada. And that uh you"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "know, he asks him, is God real? And he"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "goes, well, not the God that you think?"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "And like gives him some kind of weird,"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:31", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:34", "text": ">> You know, roundabout answer. But that to"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "me, again, you know, um deathbed"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "confessions are"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:37", "text": ">> huge."}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:39", "text": ">> Yeah. To me, that's that's the biggest"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "piece of evidence. Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> you're alleviating your burdens. You're"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "alleviating your mind. You're not"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "worried about any repercussions."}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": ">> It's the most credible confession. It's"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "the most credible, you know, unless"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "you're completely delirious. Uh, to me,"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "it's the most credible thing you can"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "ever hear from another human being,"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "period. Is when you're about to leave"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "this planet, what do you what do you"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "want to leave this planet with? A lie, a"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "joke, a farce, a hoax,"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:07", "text": ">> somebody's cover up, some scop. It's all"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "very strange to leave somebody with"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "that. But to leave them with that story."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:12", "text": ">> And so, yeah, I just thought that was an"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "interesting connection there about the"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "conga line of people asking questions."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "It kind of lines up."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:18", "text": ">> And they have index cards. They write"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "the answers down on index cards."}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": ">> The DNI. Let me finish with this. This"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "is what started my whole saga."}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:25", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:28", "text": ">> I'm running for United States Congress."}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:31", "text": ">> And it's 1999. I'm not going to win."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "This is this is a a hellish 11-way"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "primary in the Northshore of Chicago."}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "the John Hughes where he made all the"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "high school movies, the Home Alone"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "houses, the Northshore, these are all,"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "you know, uppidity, very wealthy people"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "at a lot of the neighborhoods and and"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "it's a free-for-all. We are we are"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "destroying each other. private"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "detectives smear the um a national"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "newspaper still to this day it's on"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "Grock and John Stewart was involved in"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "the 11-way primary that national"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "newspapers called the dirtiest"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "congressional primary in history which"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "kind of helped me for being able to"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "absorb what happened to me for the past"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "you know six years I end up endorsing a"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "guy I became friends with Mark Kirk who"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "became the congressman and became a"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "one-term senator Senator Mark Kirk"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "He was in the reserves for and he was a"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "naval intelligence officer in the"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "reserves."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "This started the whole thing. We're on"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "the back of the bus just him and I. John"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "McCain is brought in. We're doing a bus"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "tour for the district to to hype up the"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "primary. And it's Mark and I at the back"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "of the bus that Chris, this started"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "And and Leslie Keane once told me, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "you found some you you you touched the"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "third rail. You were like asking a mafia"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "guy the code name for a And so I said,"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "\"Mark, um, before everyone gets on, what"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "is the DNI? The Department of Naval"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "Intelligence.\" And he did and he was"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "over here and he did this."}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "Oh, yeah. The DNI. Yep. The DNI. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "doing this."}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "Yeah. And he's like, and he and he"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "looked at me like this and people"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "started filing on to the bus and it"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "faded in, you know, to the to the buzz"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "of everyone. And I remember going, \"Holy"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "this video"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "might be real.\" Because I just had a"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "naval intelligence officer who became"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "our senator in Illinois swallow his"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "peach pit. I'm still friends with him."}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:37", "text": ">> I was out to dinner with him a year ago."}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "He's the one that got me involved with"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "Captain John Levelvel of the Apollo"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "missions. I'm not dropping names. I'm"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "just saying he doesn't know anything"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "about this, but that's and I've had"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "again I remember telling the story to"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "Leslie Keane. She's like, \"Well, this is"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "reporters have that it's you're touching"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "the third rail. You you are getting the"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "sense that you just hit a raw nerve.\""}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "Yeah. And and why why why would he not"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "look at me and go, \"What are you"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "Department"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "Naval Intelligence? What are you talking"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "about? There is no such thing. He did"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "it. He just he said nothing and he"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "repeated it and he looked off into the"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "distance and I just Chris I had a my"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "stomach dropped and this was two years"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "after the 97 documentary came out. I'm"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "like, \"Oh my god.\""}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:22", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": ">> Oh my god. Are you telling me because I"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "thought basically I thought it was maybe"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "a carefully crafted hoax that this thing"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "could be real. And the last thing with"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "the DNI is um he worked for NASA, Bob"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "Oler, and he called the IRS with Bob"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "Lazar's EIN, the federal uh uh tax"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "number. Every when you get when you are"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "a business, you get a sure EIN number. I"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "have one for my business, your it's your"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "tax index number. That's how you pay"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "your taxes for your company. And the IRS"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "took like five minutes, came back on the"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "phone, said this is I don't know what"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "this is. This is classified. We can't"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "tell you. This is Bob Oxler. worked"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "worked for Nassau. He was the one that"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "called that one admiral. He said, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "we've got, you know, craft and whatnot.\""}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "So, there's John Stewart, the dingling"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "car dealer. Just gave you five pretty"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "damn good stories that possibly as far"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "as the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "is concerned. Bob Lazar was correct."}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "That that that Bob was right. And before"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "Bob, I've researched this. I could be"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "wrong. The Department of Navy"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "intelligence was never brought up. Bob"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "Lazar Yeah. was. I could be wrong, but"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "in my investigation, Bob Lazar was the"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "first one to bring up a a"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:38", "text": ">> That's a great point."}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": ">> A a a Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "that doesn't exist and to write it on a"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "payroll stub and have it and get it give"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "it and Bob Lazar created a a IRS"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "taxpayer ID that another person's told"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "is is classified."}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": ">> You know, I was I was born at night, but"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "it wasn't last night. So again, we're"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "hoaxing. Chris Ramsay and John Stewart"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "are hoaxing this video. We have a stool"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "left in the thing. We've hired two guys"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "to wear military outfits. We don't"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "really put them in the shot. Their"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "shoulders are getting in the way of the"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "camera. Um we we have uh we have uh"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "medics that are not in pressurized"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "suits. We take I was told by a"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "cameraman, he's in my end of my"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "documentary, my good friend James"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "Mastery. He was a cameraman for ABC"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "Chicago. He talked to me for a half hour"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "about digital overlay graphics. I said,"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "\"Jim, in '91 or '96 when we think this"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "may it was a hoax. How much to put that"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "on there?\" He goes, \"If like a video"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "production company, it's like this took"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "hours. You had to cut out the numbers,"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "put it on the film, recopy the film,"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "transfer it.\" And as far as the transfer"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "and stuff, 16 mm transfer to VHS tape."}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "Is Chris Ramsey and John Stewart on a"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "short budget going to find 16 millimeter"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "film, film it on that one take? That's a"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "one. We've positive it's one take. take"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "that 16 millimeter film, transfer it to"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "VHS tape, have this actor go around"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "other film studios, have them come back"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "to us, and then finally use this crappy"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "VHS tape that we have to darken for the"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:17", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:22", "text": ">> Isn't the AAM's razor that this was"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "taken out of a government facility? It"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "was shot on 16 millimeter. Victor went"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "home again. I I don't like this guy, but"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "his his name is Andrew Burlington. He's"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "from England."}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "He thinks conclusively that Victor, he"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "knows the computer. It was a 1996"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "Gateway 3000 computer because it's got a"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "white watermark line that Victor used"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "this computer to take the 16 millimeter"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "film or the DVD disc and put it to a VHS"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "tape. So, pretty pretty interesting. So"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "that's that's our DNI story that um I I"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "am really very proud of and proud of"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "that I can tell people don't throw Bob"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "Lazar to the trash sheep of of grifters"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "and hoaxers cuz I think you're going to"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "get disappointed."}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, that's Thank you for sharing"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "that. It's a lot of information and it's"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "a lot of news to me. So, it's very cool"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "to hear about this elusive Department of"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "Naval Intelligence because as most"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "people who follow Bob Lazar story know,"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "that's another point of contention that"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "they keep bringing up. But"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": ">> as most of us who, you know, look"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "further into Bob Lazar story, we realize"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "that give it enough time and Bob will be"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "vindicated yet again. Um,"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:38", "text": ">> and I've got another Bob Lazor story for"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "later on about lunch. You have to ask me"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "that. Oh, well, the lunch truck, the"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "food trucks. Yeah. Um, and"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:47", "text": ">> it's like asking me, John, as a pro"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "wrestler, what what what did you guys"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "say in the backstage? What did you say"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "in the locker room?"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:53", "text": ">> Yeah, there's only"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "there's a bunch of stuff that only I"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "would know."}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": ">> So, I I got the monitor if you want to"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "go over the monitor because that's a"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "really"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": ">> I do I also want to note that um"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "according to Victor, this being arrived"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "to S4 in ' 89,"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:07", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:09", "text": ">> That's also when Bob was there."}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:12", "text": ">> Yeah. in the Kawahari crash."}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:14", "text": ">> Yeah. So, it's uh it's it's Well, I was"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "that was I mean that I don't know to be"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "a fact because"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:18", "text": ">> I don't either."}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Because that could also just be"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "passage material yet again."}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:23", "text": ">> Something I'm very proud of. I have"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "absolutely"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:31", "text": ">> no idea, no information,"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "no nothing even even um anecdotal of"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "where that being came from."}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:36", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:38", "text": ">> And where it crashed. Yeah. I"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "please don't look at give me the look."}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": ">> We found a person that claims a woman"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "that claims she transcribed the index"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "cards into notes. Oh,"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:49", "text": ">> and I will tell you what she said about"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "this this being a little heartbre. You"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "want me to tell you that now?"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:53", "text": ">> Yeah, please."}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": ">> That they nicknamed him Oscar."}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:57", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:16:00", "text": ">> That this was his first mission."}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "he conveyed. Now, this again, one thing,"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "Victor, um, and I've I've interviewed."}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:06", "text": ">> Who is this lady?"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:07", "text": ">> I'm not going to tell you her name."}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:08", "text": ">> Don't tell me your name, but who was"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "she? Like, how did she hit you?"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:12", "text": ">> She she she contacted me off the"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "internet, my email, cuz I get my email"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "back."}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:14", "text": ">> Did you vet her?"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:15", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:18", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:19", "text": ">> Um, I'm just telling you the story."}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I want to know everything."}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": ">> I I know that you have were talk a lot"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "about S4. I just saw your um your video"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "on Cosmic Road where you talked about"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "interviewing I interviewed for three"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "hours a woman, a widow who claimed her"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "husband was an S4 telepath and that he"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "went crazy. They made they turned him"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "into a bust out the same thing almost"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "like with Victor allegedly. I"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "interviewed her for she was like, I"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "found it fascinating and I was a person"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "that transcribed the notes of the tele"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "thought projection, she said of the"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "thought projection interviews between"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "the being and the telepaths. Okay."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:16:58", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:16:59", "text": ">> She's like, I'm not going to tell you"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "anything more. Here's what I can tell"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "you."}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:02", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:04", "text": ">> They nicknamed him Oscar"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:08", "text": ">> lady. Come out here. Now, this is what"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "you I'm just telling you what this woman"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> No, I'm I'm telling you I want this lady"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "on the podcast. Let's go. I'll I'll I'll"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "I'll backlight her. I'll I'll do the"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "whole thing."}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:18", "text": ">> This moved me a little bit. So, I don't"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "want to laugh too much because I just a"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:23", "text": ">> They nicknamed him Oscar. It was his"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "first mission. He got This is what he"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "relayed. And what I want to tell you"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "that there was a lot of um there was a"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "lot of fuzz and and um um opakeness with"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "were the beings really telling us the"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "truth or were we getting the right"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "information, you know, how does a being"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:44", "text": ">> or is the telepath you know"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:45", "text": ">> because they put pictures in your head."}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "So how does a being put a picture in the"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "head that you're he was confused? His"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "name was Oscar. It was his first mission"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "allegedly. He was confused. it was a"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "hard landing and that he described that"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "he was sick and that he wanted to know"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "where his other crew members were, which"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "I don't think it was the Kalahari crash"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "because that was only allegedly two"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "beings. He wanted to know the"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "disposition of his other crew members."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "And the last thing was it was that he"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "was afraid of being there"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:18", "text": ">> and he in that in the in the facility of"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "E4. This is what this stenographer"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "whatever transcriber."}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:22", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": ">> Um told her. My wife was there on"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "speakerphone with me. My niece was there"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "who's a corporate pilot, not some"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "nitwit. And we were like, \"Oh my.\" And"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "and my two daughters were there. And"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "when and when the the lady said, and she"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "sounded a little Spanish. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "saying I I I'm not I don't want to just"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "giving you everything that I can derive."}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "When she said, you know, he was afraid."}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "My daughters got moved like they were"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "like and they like"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": ">> and and when the phone call ended my"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "daughter was like daddy you know my my"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "daughters they're like daddy I mean"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "makes us feel bad that could have been a"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "great hoaxer I"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:59", "text": ">> yeah but there's also the the"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "anthropomorphic sort of take where you"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "know we also feel the same for um Stitch"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "and Lilo and Stitch because he's a"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "Disney character he's not real and we"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "kind of feed our own humanity into him"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "but"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:12", "text": ">> but yeah giving him a name doesn't"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "giving him a name like Oscar."}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:16", "text": ">> But yeah,"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:19", "text": ">> I'm not going to say anymore."}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "Fat bald Italian wrestler."}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:20", "text": ">> Don't worry about that."}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:21", "text": ">> I'm not worried. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:22", "text": ">> Don't worry about that."}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:24", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:25", "text": ">> but that was again I give you the whole"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "story."}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:28", "text": ">> I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:28", "text": ">> and and and it was and it was and it was"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "fascinating."}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:30", "text": ">> If I was worried about the people those"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "people, you know, wouldn't be doing"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "this. and she contacted me after I told"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "this long hour story of the of the S4 uh"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "the widow whose husband allegedly was an"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "S4 telepath and had the same again she"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "didn't know a lot about the Victor story"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "told me whether it's true or not sure"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": ">> that her husband had the same um the"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "same issue that Victor had which was"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "you're not going to tell the people"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "about this program"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:00", "text": ">> you're you're no no not on my watch and"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "her husband felt the same thing and she"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "said He went crazy at a conference table"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "when they told him that they were the"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "that a a offensive weapon or something a"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "a system that they were developing was"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "going to be used or could be used or or"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "being pushed to being used in an"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "offensive manner for the military. He"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "exploded like you can change the world"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "with this and they they actually threw"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "him out of the program. they they they"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "uh they they did things she felt to in"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "inhibit him from getting a real job. She"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "said he was an an adjun professor or"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "lecturer, not a full-time. She said,"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "\"John, I'm telling you, two of his"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "students from UCLA came up to him"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> when we were out because they lived in"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "Los Angeles and you know, professor blah"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "blah blah.\" She goes, \"I know he wasn't"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "full of it. Um"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:52", "text": ">> but they turned him into a bum"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "effectively just like what Victor"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "claims. I'm on the run. I you know"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:57", "text": ">> that's interesting. I would very"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "interesting. I would um you know I'm"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "extending a a branch out here to you"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "know anybody who knows this lady or"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "anybody involved like reach out. I would"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "love to"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:09", "text": ">> hear it for myself and if there's any"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "way that we can get some of this"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "information out even anonymously. I mean"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "that would be really"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": ">> this is part of this this for the past"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "six years people come out of the"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "woodwork. They email and they contact"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "us."}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> I've had that too. Yeah it's it's"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "interesting. It is frustrating as well"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "because you know part of you is like you"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "can hold this information and share it"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "with other researchers but outside of"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "that you know it doesn't really do any"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "good um"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:34", "text": ">> and it hasn't helped my investigation"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "coming forward talking about it begging"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "people to help me has been awesome. It's"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "helped. So"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:39", "text": ">> but I wanted to talk about the monitor"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "because"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:42", "text": ">> let's talk about let's talk about the"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "monitor. This little heart monitor that"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "jumps up and down."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So you know I'm not getting"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "uh sappy here or whatever but I'm in my"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "driveway. It's 2019. and I just lost the"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "governor's primary for the Libertarian"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "Party. Um, my life isn't very good at"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "the time. Um, and every metric I won't"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "go into, you know, I whatever every part"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "of your life, health, finances,"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "marriage, whatever. It just things were"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "not going good for me. and and maybe"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "that was that you know when you get down"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "when you're feeling low sometimes that's"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "when you know um"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "when you hit would say rock bottom but"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "when you hit a low point you know"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "sometimes that's not the the worst thing"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "in the world another door will open"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:29", "text": ">> and um I was sitting in my car and I got"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "home early one day I remember my it was"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "the a drizzle was coming down and this"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "the this video was bothering me the"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "whole everything Victor the video"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "everything was just bother bothering me."}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "I you know and and I said to myself,"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "I've got a I I'm I've come home early."}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "I've got some hours. I'm going to find"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "something about this video right now."}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "Fact or not, proof or not. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "prove this is fake right now. What do I"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "do? I'm like, I I don't I can't find"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "these doctors. I can't find I don't know"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "anybody in eufology, the military,"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "nothing. I started from the ground floor"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "on this investigation. And I said, \"But"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "this monitor, this monitor is bizarre."}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "The blip goes up.\" And I want people to"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "hear me clearly here. The the green"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "trace it's called, that's the technical"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "term, goes up and down. The trace does"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "not stay on the bottom of the screen,"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "which every oscilloscope, every heart"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "monitor, every EKG, the trace will stay"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "down, and it will also go up and down,"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "but the bottom of the trace will always"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "remain on the bottom of the screen. this"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "monitor that ball comes off of the"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "bottom of the screen. We've stopmotioned"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "it. So, it was very weird. Now, Haimey"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "Mousan said that uh 15 cardiologists,"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "thoracic surgeons all claim in Mexico"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "that the the heart monitor, if it was,"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "was was perfect in sync of that being"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "coughing and going into some which they"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "thought which they thought was a cardiac"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "um a cardiac arrest. There was a couple"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "of thoracic surgeons that told Haimey"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "Misan back in 97 that they think that"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "that was that heart monitor was showing"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "a single ventricle heart."}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:14", "text": ">> Now, we know that what I've been told"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "about this creature does have a weird"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "physiology, a heart, lung, one sack"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "organ. Maybe that's what it was showing."}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": ">> That's what we and that's what we hear"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "about in in, you know, other parts of"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "this lore."}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:28", "text": ">> So, this is a this is a cute story and"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "it and I I love telling it because it it"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "it's charming. It's real and it shows"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "humanity. So I'm in my car. Thank God"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "for the internet. iPhones. This I'm in"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "my car. I go on the internet. Who made"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "physiological monitors in the early 90s?"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "Right"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:49", "text": ">> when Victor said this was made in ' 91."}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:51", "text": ">> I find two two companies. Space Labs,"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "not SpaceX and Huelet Packard were the"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "were the primary builders, developers,"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "R&D of of monitors. I find this in"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "minutes. I contact space uh space labs."}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "Um I email them. They email me back."}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "Well, sure. This is the research and"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "development department of space labs."}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "They did monitors for NASA. They send us"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "the video clip. We'll tell you what we"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "think it is. They send it back. I have"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "the email. I show it. Uh headscratcher."}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "We have no idea what this is. The"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "company that made monitors for NASA"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "doesn't know what they're looking at."}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "Now I go to Huelet Packard. Hello. Can I"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "have the research and development"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "department for physiological matters?"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "One moment, please. You know, I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "well, this is this is interesting. Can I"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "help you? Whatever he said. This is Hulu"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "Packard. I said, is there John Stewart?"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "I'm I'm an investigator. Is there a"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "really old guy in the your R&D"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "department? Crusty old guy, Chris. my my"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "hand of bright hand of God, you know,"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "maybe he doesn't talk to a lot of"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "people. They stay away. Maybe he's"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "getting ready to retire, but he's been"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "there forever. My my hand to God, he"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "goes, \"Oh, we've got one of those. One"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "of those.\" Puts me on hold. I hear,"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "\"Hello.\" I tell the guys like in his"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "60s. And I was very, very cordial with"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "him. I know I talk fast. I pissed a lot"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "of people off, bothered them with how"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "fast I talk at times. And I said, \"Sir,"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:23", "text": "my name is John Stewart. I'm from"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "Chicago. I'm an investigator. We're"}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "doing a documentary, which I wasn't. Um,"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "I've got this physiological monitor I've"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "never seen before. Is there any way I"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "can get your email and email you this"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "clip and you tell me what this is? What"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "if you know what you can help me?"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "Absolutely. He gives me his email."}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:44", "text": ">> This is five minutes later. This is"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "after space lab. I mean, this is talk"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "about the internet and smartphones."}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "I call him back. He answers the phone"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "and he goes, \"Uh, a kid, I don't know"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "what I don't know what I'm looking at.\""}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "I'm like, \"You've never seen anything"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "like this.\" He said, \"I've never seen"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "the trace go up and down, and I don't"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "know why.\" And he he had a a statement."}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "I don't know why you would make the"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "trace uh go vertically and not"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "horizontally. In the in physiological"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "terms, it doesn't make sense. Okay, it's"}, {"start": "01:27:15", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "a little bit of a good piece of"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "information. He said, \"Uh, where's this"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "from?\" And I'm like, I go,"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "\"F it. I'm going to tell him the truth.\""}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "I said, \"This is allegedly from an"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "underground government facility."}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "Please don't hang up on me. Allegedly,"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "this is monitoring the phys physiology"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> physiology"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "of an extraterrestrial.\" He doesn't"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "laugh and doesn't hang up. Now, this has"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "been repeated dozens of times in this"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "investigation where people do not laugh"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "at me, nor do they hang up the phone. I"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "find that a little weird. He said,"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "\"That's interesting.\""}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "He said, \"Um,"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:03", "text": "he said, \"It's on an alien.\" Well, I"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "think you're looking at a one-off."}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "What's a one-off? He's like, \"Well, in"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "manufacturing terms, it's only if you're"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "trying to solve a problem, there's not a"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "device to solve it.\" He gives me the"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "analogy. If you're looking for gold in"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "1800s, you would create a gold detector"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "to help you find gold in the ground on"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "that type of that type of um that type"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "of of of methodology."}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "And he said, \"If uh if you're telling me"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "that he had this creature has a one sack"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "or you know, heart and lung is one one"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "unit, um a human physiological monitor"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "would not work. You'd have to create a"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "one-off that could monitor this"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "creature.\" I took my iPhone and I was"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "bashing my head to check me back in"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "reality like this can't be happening."}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "This this guy is giving me like a"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "breadcrumb trail."}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "And he said uh I think that's what"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "you're looking at. I think the"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "government probably would have made this"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "especially to monitor this this creature"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "because he does not have the organs as"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "you said of a human being doing the"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:12", "text": "Okay. if you need anything else, you"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "have my number. Go ahead and give me a"}, {"start": "01:29:12", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "call."}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:18", "text": ">> I hang up in my car. I'm like, I I just"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:21", "text": "do not believe that this this just"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "happened. This is not enough. I want to"}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "be a true journalist. I need another"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "three sources. That's what I've always"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "been taught in journalism classes. Now,"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "I find I'm going to wrap this story up."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "No, actually, no, I'm not going to wrap"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "it up. I find three people from Sweden"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "that did their PhD level dissertation on"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "the history of physiological monitors."}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "Now, have I gone to the top of the the"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "mountain as far as physiological"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "monitors in a matter of 10 minutes. The"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "guy's name is Sven. I email him. He"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "emails me back. I have the email. I send"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "him the clip without the alien. I don't"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "want to scare people to death."}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:56", "text": ">> Cropped it."}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:29:58", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:00", "text": ">> Writes me back. This is a guy with his"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "two cohorts that's just did the history"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "of physiological monitors. Um, Mr."}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "Stewart, we have absolutely no idea what"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "we're looking at. I'm sorry, we can't"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "help you. And I simply said to myself,"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "with having a rudimentary knowledge of"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "Hollywood, is a schllock third tier"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "production company really going to"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "invent this monitor that has never been"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "created in the world and and whatnot?"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "Let me give you the debunking. I call an"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "FX person. Oh, I could do that. How can"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "you do it? Oh, I'll put a laser on a"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "servo and I'll tap it up and down and"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "and that's how I would do it. A laser on"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "a servo. And what would it hit? A piece"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "of glass. I get my daughters. We get a"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "piece of glass. We manufacture. We put"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "it on a stand. I get a the modern laser"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "from the internet. We shut down the"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "lights in my living room. I start"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "bouncing it. Yeah, there's a green blip"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "on it, but it's diffused. It's coming in"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "the back of the wall."}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "So we realized that this was a lot more"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "advanced if it's special effects than"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "just putting up a piece of glass in a in"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "a laser on a servo."}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:07", "text": ">> There would have to be masking of like"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "the uh of the diffusion. There would"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "have to be like so much more that went"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "into simply that"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:16", "text": ">> bombshell. I pay $2,500. This is the"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "start of the writing the checks. I give"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "$2,500 to Bill Mums who National"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "Geographic hired to do the analysis of"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "the Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot film. Okay."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> Did I go to the top of the mountain"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "again? Nat Gio hired him. I think he'd"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "be good enough for I give him the film."}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "Pay him $2,500. His name is Bill Mums."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:40", "text": "He writes me back and he says definitely"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "16 millimeter. Ah, coincides with what"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "what we've heard. Cool."}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": ">> Transferred to gives me this the speed"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "frame, the 60"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "blank blank per second."}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:51", "text": ">> I've got the whole eight page analysis"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "Um, but there's a I don't think this is"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "real, but I'm saying that on face value,"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "but it's 16 mm and nobody uses 16"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "millimeter. There's a problem. Well, of"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "course there's a problem. Just like the"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "other FX guy. What's the problem?"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "There's no creases under the armpits."}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "Okay. He writes back. He goes, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "every"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "foam latex doll that I haven't been"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "involved in since the 50s"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:20", "text": ">> during the drying process around 75%"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "they let the arms droop down."}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:25", "text": ">> You know, if they mold a creature and"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "when they every creature when the arms"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "come down, a crease develops in the"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "armpit. He sends me 20 pictures of the"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "creature of the black lagoon to this guy"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "to this this video. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:37", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:39", "text": ">> I got my money's worth. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "Bill, what does that mean? And he said,"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "\"Well, it means that some unknown"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "technique has been used by this Rocket"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "Pictures in Beverly Hills that did a"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "Chvy the Rodney Dangerfield golf video.\""}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "That's me. That's my language. This"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "video production company suddenly"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "devised"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:02", "text": ">> a new process, a breakthrough of"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "animatronic foam latex dolls. And I"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "don't believe that what I just wrote."}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "And he said, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "you know, tread lightly. This is this is"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "weird. I cannot explain this.\" Oh, I"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "forgot. Here's the monitor. He sends me"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "the picture to the monitor where all we"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "saw was the glass. He was able to"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "lighten it. It is bracketed by a metal"}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "bracket, not where Chris Ramsay and John"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "Stew would put four pieces of angle iron"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "metal around a piece of glass. This has"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "got like a bubble, like a bubble on top"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "of metal with a fin. And on the one part"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "of the of the bracket is a protrusion,"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "like a cartridge of a bullet, like a you"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:46", "text": "know, like the top of a missile."}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:48", "text": ">> Like somebody had a mold around that"}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "like something went Why would you just"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "not put four pieces of metal together?"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:57", "text": ">> And and Bill goes, \"Somebody made this."}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "There's a reason for that protrusion.\""}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "Said the same thing I'm thinking."}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "Special effects guys have just put four"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "pieces of metal. This is bracketed. It's"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "got a fin. It's got the protrusion."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:08", "text": ">> Too much work."}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:12", "text": ">> Too much work."}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:15", "text": ">> Are you ready? Hi, Mr. Stewart. I'm blah"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "blah blah blah blah. Have you seen the"}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "video about Whitley Striber talking"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "about your alien in the monitor?"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "Uh, no. Let me send it to you. Whitley"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "Striber 2014 at a conference."}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "Do you see this video behind me? It's my"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "alien interview with the blip. He goes,"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "I think this is real and I want to I"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "want to This is Whitley. This isn't John"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "Stewart. And I want to tell you why. Do"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "you see that green blip on the screen?"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "He's got it over his head in the"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "conference. I saw that exact same green"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "blip when I was writing the book"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "Communion. I think it's the way those"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "types of aliens communicate with human"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "beings. And I was would see it at the"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "corner of my eye in my on my at my"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "writing desk at my home. And I would try"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "and put my hand over it and it would not"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "cover the blip. And it drove me crazy."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "I'd put my thumb on it. I could not get"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "rid of this blip. And I think it's the"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "way the beings were communicating with"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "me when I was writing communion. But I"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "have something to ask the audience. I"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "have never told anyone about that green"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "blip since today. How in the hell did a"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "Hollywood producer in 1996 know to put"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "that green blip in that video that the"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "gray beans that is one way or possibly a"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "way of them communicating I never told a"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "soul. So how did that Hollywood producer"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "and I'm asking your audience how did"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "that producer Rocket Pitcher know to put"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "that to put that green blip in?"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:53", "text": ">> And I about I about fell off my my chair"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "when I heard that. And um I've had other"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "people email me"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:57", "text": ">> again. I want to tell you the whole very"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "quick story."}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:00", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": ">> Somebody said, \"I think Bell Labs made"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "that. They turned the modulation so on"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "and so forth.\" Okay."}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:11", "text": ">> Somebody else uh emails me. Um he's kind"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "of known in eupfology. Mr. Stewart, it's"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "not a heart monitor. It's not a"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "physiological monitor. It is kind of a"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "communication device, but the gray beans"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "give off a vibratory response. Now,"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "we've heard this from other people,"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "other abductees. We heard this from the"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "S4 security guard, Derek Hennessy."}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "Whether you believe him or not, they"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "would put Vaseline on the hair of their"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "arms in the back of their necks when"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "they were around the the the Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "crap in the hangers because they gave"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "off a vibratory resonance. Their skin,"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "the the human beings vibrated. And this"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "person told me that grays give off a"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "vibration. And that box was built"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "specifically to absorb to detect to to"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "detect that vibration."}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:01", "text": ">> After all of this is still not good"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "enough. I will finish up here. I did"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "find Tektronics."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "No, it got got made into a comp a"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "different company."}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "That's why I love you, bro. Tektronics"}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "did make a similar looking green blip."}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "It's this real vivid blip that did not"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "stay on the bottom of its whatever its"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "machine that I have the video of."}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> So I did find an actual human-made"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "machine with that blip, but it did not"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "look anything like that box. So that So"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:33", "text": ">> So when you when you look at the you"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "whistle past the graveyard on the"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "alienated hoax hoax and you just hear of"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "the of the monitor story."}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:42", "text": ">> How did Whitley"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:42", "text": ">> and that's just one thing. It's one"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "thing,"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:45", "text": ">> you know, there's there's so many"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "different things in this video from the"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "video itself, how it was filmed, where"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "it was shot, how it came to be, and then"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "yeah, certain items in the video,"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "certain, you know, potential costumes"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "that don't make sense."}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": ">> Chris, can I say one thing? Sure."}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:01", "text": ">> Would it make sense that the government"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "knew what Whitley knew from dealing with"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "the beans for 70 years that we have"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "devised this green box and this is the"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "way they communicate? That's when I hear"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "like the Whitley Streber story I say"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "government siah"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:17", "text": ">> but that almost but that almost negates"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "the uh the telepathy you know it almost"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "uh replaces the telepathy then so"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": ">> no that's not true I was told that the"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "vibration um that they give off they"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "emanate a different vibration when they"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "are in stress or when they and then"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "someone else told me just a random"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "eupfologist that that was the bean's way"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "of telling the telepath I'm try I"}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "sending you something right now. I don't"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "believe that. Okay."}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:43", "text": ">> But that's an interesting p."}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:44", "text": ">> Sure. It's interesting."}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:46", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:47", "text": ">> I think we should get to the chairman."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:48", "text": ">> Let's get to the chairman"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:50", "text": ">> and the list of men in the room."}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:51", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. That would be really"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "interesting. So, there were a few people"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "in the foreground. There were the two"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "doctors that approached as well. Um, and"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:00", "text": ">> yeah, what do we know about these"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "people? How do we know that these are"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "real people? So like many things I you"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "know I've always been interested in"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "conspiracies and whatnot and I always"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "know and realize like with MJ12 like"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "with a lot a lot of other things when"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "you go public as an author, researcher,"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "investigator, journalist sometimes"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "people in the know will approach you'll"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "send you things."}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:24", "text": ">> So I go on the Jeff Rents program uh"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "this is one of the oldest internet"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "programs pre-podcast in in America."}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": ">> And he writes me back. He said, \"I I"}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "totally I know this video, John. I"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "believe this is real. You're coming on."}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "Let's tell me what you have.\" I go on"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "there, the hat in hand, the humble John"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "Stewart, not the crazy guy. Can anyone"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "help me? Here's what I have so far. I"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "told the whole monitor story, so on and"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "so forth. A week after that, well, I"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "must want to say one thing before that"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "two days, this was Memorial Day 2022,"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "my emails disappear off my phone. My"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "red, be specific because your viewers"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "should get spec specificity. My red but"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "not deleted emails disappeared off my"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "phone. It was in my cup holder. My wife"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "and I were driving in the upper"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "Michigan, upper peninsula of Michigan"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "and my screen goes blue, black, white,"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "black. I go and all of the blue dots"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "saying your email, they're gone. I"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "looked at my wife and said, \"That's"}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "crazy.\" I'm like, she's like, \"What"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "happened?\" I'm like, \"My emails are"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "gone.\" So, I talked to the Jeff Wrench"}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "producer pre pre-in, which is standard"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "operating procedure. I said, \"I just"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "want to let you know my my emails"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "disappeared yesterday.\" Oh, that happens"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "all the time. To who? A lot of our"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "guests. He goes, \"John, we're monitored."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "A lot of these podcasts and radio shows"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "are monitored. This this happens all the"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "time. And you know, you and Jeff and I"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "have been emailing back and forth for"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "two weeks. You You must have been on"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "somebody's radar. Um, don't worry about"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "it.\" I'm like, \"Well, I I am not a UFO"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "guy. I am worried about it.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "\"Mr. Stewart, just relax. This has"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "happened before. Jeff Wren's producer"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "about um it 10 days later in June, I get"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "an email from a person and he said, \"I"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "caught your your um your your interview"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "on the Jeff Rens program. You had some"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "things right. You had some things wrong."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "I am knowledgeable of these programs."}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "I'm not in these programs, but I"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "acknowledge and I know people in these"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "programs and I'll never forget this"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "line. If I can give your investigation a"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "nudge, I will."}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:35", "text": ">> Boom. Okay. Doesn't sign his name or"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "anything. Once a month, very important"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "to know this. Once a month, I get an"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:44", "text": "email from him. How you doing? Or um"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "uh caught you on another podcast. You"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "got this wrong or that wrong. very I"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "would say light topical"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:51", "text": ">> sure"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:52", "text": ">> things once a month"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:55", "text": ">> there's an interesting exchange"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:57", "text": ">> have to know this"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": ">> on my birthday so this is about nine"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "months later on my birthday"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "um I get from the horse's mouth now I'm"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "a public figure pro wrestler but it's"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "hard to find my birthday I just find it"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "funny on my birthday on a Friday"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "um I get this email from the horse's"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "mouth and it's his email address and I"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "open it up and I want to be very"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "specific here. He's obviously an old"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "Well, I know who he is now, but he is an"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "old person, older person in his 70s,"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:35", "text": ">> not technically savvy. What he did was"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "forward me forwarded me an email that"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "was sent to him from someone he knew"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "inside the DIA. What we have found out"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "is the Defense Intelligence Agency runs"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "all things ex alien extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "project Aquarius out at out at Papoose"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "Lake and the N uh Nellis test and"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "training facility. DIA runs the umbrella"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "program and under that umbrell umbrella"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "program is NSA, DO DOE, um uh DNI, uh"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "Navy, uh Air Force, so on and so forth."}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "But the the overseer running this"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "program, the air traffic controller,"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "Defense Intelligence Agency, who I found"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "out was created by Senator Barry"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "Goldwater and John F. Kennedy because"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "the CIA was obuscating and subverting"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "them. They wanted a a department to"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "collect their own intelligence. And"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "Goldwater and John F. Kennedy created"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "the DIA. And the DIA,"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:35", "text": ">> believe it or not, uh the Air Force was"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "through with the extraterrestrial with"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "Project Blue. They had it. They actually"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "kind of put it up for auction. Does"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "anybody want to take over the DIA brass?"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:48", "text": ">> Yeah, they took on Stargate as well. And"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:52", "text": ">> okay, this is why I come here. So"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "he I get an email from him from this"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "person and this is from So this is like"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "John Stewart sending an email from Chris"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "Ramsey to the UFO investigator and it"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "says this is not talking to me. This is"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "so important. This is John Stewart, two"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "and Chris Ramsay, two pals communicating"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "with each other. This guy does not know"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "I'm being sent this. And it says,"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "\"Here's what I know about um that film.\""}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "Um it was classified as an unauthorized"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "viewing, not a theft,"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:28", "text": ">> not a you know, we had a big, you know,"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "investigation. Unauthorized viewing."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "That's what they they classified that. I"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "think that was to water down that it was"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "removed and to anybody in the higherups,"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "oh, it was an auto theft. Let's, you"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "know, water down the language so we"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "don't get in trouble. And it basically"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "said this. Um, this film was filmed on"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "April 22nd, 1991 at 3:15 in the"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "afternoon on behalf of the Defense Intel"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "at the Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "coordinated by the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "Agency."}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "This bean was classified as an other"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "gray. I have found out that there was so"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "many species. This was so"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "run-of-the-mill that they didn't even"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "give this remember round eye tan bean,"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "not a typical gray. Instead of giving it"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "a classification like um uh uh I can't"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "even think of a of a scientific name, he"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "actually referred to it as one of the"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "other grays,"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:27", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:29", "text": ">> Which I thought was startling. If you"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "were going to hoax me, you'd give this."}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:34", "text": ">> He said it was a clone extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "biological entity type two from the"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "Taetti star system."}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:43", "text": ">> It was a hilaloid. And I I can't I have"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:45", "text": "t problems pronouncing that. Haloid is"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "someone that has something that has one"}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "sexual chromosome. We human beings are"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "diploids. Two chromosomes. This is a"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "haloid. um one classification that is"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "the only classification that I talk"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "about."}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:59", "text": ">> Why"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:03", "text": ">> he's because that's what I've been asked"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "to do by people that are advising me. So"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "do not look at me with that look."}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": ">> We're going to get to that in a second."}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "Keep going."}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": ">> So the letter continues."}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "uh,"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "the bean became, uh, distressed once"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "they, this really pissed me off. And I"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "could see why Victor was pissed off at"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "the treatment of these beings. Not that"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "we purposely mistreated them, but that"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "we were"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:30", "text": ">> bad. Yeah. Bad hosts. Ham-handed."}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:31", "text": ">> After the bean was stabilized, the"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "Department of Naval Intelligence"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "continued with its questioning like,"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "\"Hey, okay, we've got a minute. No,"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "don't worry about them. Come on, finish"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "your questions.\" and and it took them a"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "second to even get there and to like"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "respond."}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:41", "text": ">> That bothered me."}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:45", "text": ">> That bothered me and I felt a realness"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "in that statement, but the realness"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "comes."}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:50", "text": ">> Here's where the men in the room. This"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "is like the MJ12 document where it's"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "going to list me military men's names"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "that I've never heard of. I'm"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "knowledgeable enough in eupfology to"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "know most of the players. Sure."}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:06", "text": ">> The Hillen Cotterers and the and the"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "Bobby Yinman's and Mc Mdonald. I know"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "enough to know enough. And I'm reading"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "these names. I'm at a McDonald's Oasis"}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "in Indiana. My hand, Chris, my hand is"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "shaking because I'm getting real. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "maybe not real at this point, but I am"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "getting names to this film. There's"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "starting to become a realness. My hand"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "is shaking now. I put the document, my"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "um I put my my phone down and I'm"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:33", "text": "writing the names so I can Google them."}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "The first name was um Rear Admiral Ned"}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "Schaefer. I pull him up. Here's his"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "Wikipedia page, his milit class A dress"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "uniform. H"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "um uh what was he? He was uh head of"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "intelligence, the leaison for"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "intelligence for the joint chiefs"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "reporting to Coen Powell in the early"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "90s. Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:58", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:00", "text": ">> Never heard of them before. Now, this"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:01", "text": "list is given to Linda Molden Howell and"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "I will tell you what she said about"}, {"start": "01:48:01", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "them. The next person, he's dead. Ned"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "Schaefer."}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "Um, the next person"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "um,"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "Captain Will, Captain Lel Jacobe,"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "Naval Intelligence."}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "I go email him or Wikipedia him. I look,"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "there's his biopic in Wikipedia. He"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "becomes director of DIA, becomes a rear"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "rear admiral. I contact my one"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "investigator friend Chris Jackson. and"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "he's a police officer. We're talking"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:39", "text": "back and forth. I'm like, \"This [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "list's [ __ ] I've been MJ12. It's"}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "the Majestic LIST. I'M IT'S [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "I'M I'm Jamie Shandor AND BILL MOORE. I"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "THEY GOT TO ME.\" And he's like, \"This"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "list is from 91, right?\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "\"Yeah.\" He goes, \"Do you think maybe in"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "' 91 he was a captain and 30 years later"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "retired a rear admiral?\""}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "And I'm like, \"Oh [ __ ] Who would think"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "of that to give me a list of men's names"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "and ranks in 91 when that I'm just"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "saying"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:13", "text": ">> I don't know if I would have thought of"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": ">> To give someone's rank in ' 91."}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:21", "text": ">> I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "stop with the list. I find his email. I"}, {"start": "01:49:21", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "email him. Former DIA director Lel"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "Jacobe."}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "I'm John Stewart. Chitty chatty. Haha."}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "He ho ho ha. He writes me in an email,"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "\"Call me Jake. I don't wear the uniform"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "anymore.\" That was a direct quote. \"You"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "call me Jake.\" And I write him back,"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:42", "text": "\"Oh, you're you live in Virginia. I"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "heard the fried chicken at these gas"}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "stations is incredible. And I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "take you to go play golf.\" And h and"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "we're just we're golf buddies now,"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:56", "text": "chatting back and forth."}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "And uh he writes back, \"You said you're"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "working on a documentary. What What do"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "you want to ask me?"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "It's like this this space lab or the"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "Huelet Packard old guy. I'm like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:07", "text": "god, here we go.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:08", "text": ">> Said, \"Mr. Get hung up on.\""}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:12", "text": ">> Now I'm going to sound like I'm"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "bragging. I'm not. I said, \"Mr. uh Jake,"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:18", "text": ">> my father was in the Navy. I stopped the"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "closure of the North Chicago VA with"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "Mark Kirk.\" We did that. We stopped it"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "from closing. They ended up building"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "$132 million Captain James Levelvel"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "Apollo 13 surgical center. I'm very"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "proud that I was a progenitor of that."}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "I'm writing this to him. When I ran for"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "Congress, the military and veterans were"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:40", "text": "at the top of my pyramid. You have my"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "utmost respect. But this came across my"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "desk. And I sent I sent him the email."}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "These are the men in the room. And he"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "ghost me."}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:51", "text": ">> Mr. We're gonna have fried chicken and"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "play golf. Ghost me. Do you know what"}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "military people told me? When you're"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "honorable and you're in the military and"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "you don't want to lie to somebody, you"}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "won't lie to him. You stop talking to"}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "him."}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "Doesn't end. Well, John Stewart's"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "anecdotal story, Dr. Michael Salah,"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "exopolitics."}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "He goes, \"Give me his info. I'll contact"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "him.\" Whoa. So, Dr. Michael Salah emails"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "him. You know, I was a international"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "negotiator, mediator."}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "um you know um it has come to"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "you know speculation that you may have"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "been part of an extraterrestrial program"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "responds to Dr. Salah. A little respect"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:39", "text": "there. There's a political figure and he"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "says, \"I'm just not going to talk about"}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "any of that.\" Doesn't deny it."}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:46", "text": ">> Doesn't tell him, \"Go kiss my butt.\""}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "Just, you know, doesn't"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:48", "text": ">> respectfully declines."}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:50", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:53", "text": ">> Whoa. That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:56", "text": ">> Now we go down. Dr. Craig McFersonson."}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "this is slightly funny. I go on"}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:05", "text": "Wikipedia. I find Dr. Craig McFersonson."}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "He is a cardiologist in Connecticut."}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "He's got the bald head, the lab jacket."}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "Craig like cardiologist. Remember the"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "bean was coughing. I find out that"}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:19", "text": ">> he was a pulmonologist before being a"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "cardiologist. Lungs. Yeah. The coughing"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:21", "text": ">> with the VA."}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:22", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:26", "text": ">> So, did they pull him off the bench and"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "say go to S4? I'm calling his office,"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "you know, like a crazy person. Finally,"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "the secretary is like, \"I we're not You"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:37", "text": "want an appointment for your coughing?"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "You're from Chicago. How did you get a"}, {"start": "01:52:37", "end": "01:52:42", "text": ">> hold of Dr. McFerson's name?\""}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:43", "text": ">> I And you know, and and I'm stumbling"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "and she's like, \"Sir,"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:46", "text": ">> you got a bad alibi. What are you"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "doing?\""}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:50", "text": ">> So, um,"}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:52", "text": ">> you got you got to work on that. You got"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "to pick first next time."}, {"start": "01:52:52", "end": "01:52:54", "text": ">> Well, I'm going to tell you the story"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "about this."}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:58", "text": ">> Let's go."}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:53:02", "text": ">> A George Cassanza story. So, a little"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "bit of time goes by and um I tell the"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "story on the on the internet um without"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "mentioning all of the names."}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> Um and somebody says, \"I think you got"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "the wrong Craig McFersonson.\""}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "Again, internet angel."}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:18", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:21", "text": ">> Do you know a Linda Molden Howal"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "interviewed a Dr. Craig McFersonson who"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "admitted being a scientist at Area 51?"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "Oh, that's the other thing on the list."}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "This person from the DIA didn't even"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:35", "text": "know who McFersonson was. He said Dr."}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "Craig McFersonson, scientist."}, {"start": "01:53:35", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "Cuz he obviously was"}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:40", "text": ">> not military and Yeah."}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:41", "text": ">> looking off of a memo."}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:44", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:47", "text": ">> A report. An investigation memo."}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:49", "text": ">> Oh my god. I call Linda Molton How. She"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "calls me the human fire. She goes, \"You"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "have got to slow down.\" She goes, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "calm down.\" So I gave her the whole"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "story. This is Linda Molton How. She's"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "writing the names down furiously."}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "William Jacobe. She's like, \"John, you"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "have gold here. This is Linda How. You"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:07", "text": "have gold. Gol here.\" I'm like, \"What do"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "you mean?\" She's like, \"I've never heard"}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "of these men.\" John, everybody in 30"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "years has come to me with these retread"}, {"start": "01:54:12", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "names. Yeah. Of men in the military and"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "they get retread. They're now part of"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "this program or this program. you have,"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "whether it's real or not, you have names"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "of new names of men I've never heard of,"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "I am telling you, you have gold. And she"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "said, \"Yes, I interviewed Dr."}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "McFersonson. Um, it's on the internet.\""}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "I go, I find it. He said, \"Yes, I was a"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "scientist. Yes, I worked with alien"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "craft, but I didn't work with beans.\""}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "Why would you be specific about that? I"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "don't know. So, I got the wrong Craig"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "McFersonson, but I finally found the"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:49", "text": "right Craig McFersonson."}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "So, all of these names are jing. Now I"}, {"start": "01:54:49", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "see"}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "uh Robert Donovan, Army Intel. I spent"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "$400"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "with private investigators, name"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "searches, my own skip trace software"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "from the automobile industry. He's"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "intel. And I don't want to use a line"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "from a few good men, but you know, he is"}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:11", "text": "counterintelligence. There is no Colonel"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "Donovan. Okay."}, {"start": "01:55:11", "end": "01:55:15", "text": ">> Colonel Donovan doesn't exist."}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:19", "text": ">> I see. As far as you being able to"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "search him, I find a a a Robert Donovan"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "if from the Air Force. This guy was in"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:25", "text": "the army. I call."}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:29", "text": "I'm telling you, these senior citizens"}, {"start": "01:55:25", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "were just just"}, {"start": "01:55:29", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "they they just help so much. I call, I"}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "leave a message, a message is like to"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "speak with uh Colonel Donovan. Finally,"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:40", "text": "the answer machine picks up. Hello. I"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "said, \"Hi, my name is John Surin. I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "from Chicago. um trying to call Robert"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "Donovan. That's my husband. Huh? But you"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "know, you've got the wrong Donovan. I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:53", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "how do you know? He's like, well, she's"}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "like, well, because other people have"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "called here before looking for him. I"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "said, really? And I'm like, I I am I am"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "so sorry. Was your husband in the army?"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "No, he was in the Air Force. It's got a"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "picture on MySpace."}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "Like, okay, that I I I am I am really"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:13", "text": "sorry to bother you. And you know,"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "sounds like she's on her deathbed. And I"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "go to hang up and I hear on the phone,"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "thank God I didn't hang up. Hyper nut"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "John Stewart. I hear, but I know which"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "one you want."}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:27", "text": "I said, \"Yeah, you that Robert Donovan"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "lives on the East Coast, like you know,"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "like Washington DC, East Coast. I hope I"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "helped you.\" Click. And I'm like, \"Whoa,"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:37", "text": "still can't find him. I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "find him. I I spent $400."}, {"start": "01:56:37", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "Skip, trace, ancestry.\" private"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "investigator in Chicago. He is"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:46", "text": ">> no ghost."}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:48", "text": ">> Now, I've been told this will coincide"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "with Victor's name, which we eventually"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "got, which is there's two ways to get on"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "Area 51 and the Nellis test and training"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "range. Your real legal name or an"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "approved authorized approved and"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "authorized approved given name by US"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "intel, CIA, NSA, DIA. There's only two"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "ways you can't get on with your gnome to"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "plume your your a fake name. It's got to"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "be given to you um by an intelligence"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "agency and the credentials so to speak"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:22", "text": "to back it up. So I believe that that"}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "was a gnome to plume given to this"}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "person by US Army Army intel. Here we"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "go."}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:29", "text": ">> A pseudonym."}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:32", "text": ">> Yeah, pseudonym. Here we go. Go down to"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "the next next name. Dr. Wilfford Webb"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "Wilson. web nickname. Dr. Wilfford Webb"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "Wilson. I Google him. Doctor"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:46", "text": ">> dies in 2014, born in like 29."}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "There's nothing on this guy. How could"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "you be a medical doctor for 50 years, 40"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "years? There's no He Dr. Wilson hit a"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "hole in one of the country club. He gave"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "away his daughter for marriage."}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "Everything you would find out on the"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "internet. I the only thing I found on"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "him was a fifth grade picture. Okay."}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:09", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:13", "text": ">> I find his widow."}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:15", "text": ">> And I called her up and she answered."}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "Now, can you imagine calling an"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "80-year-old woman telling her, \"I think"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "your doc your husband was a doctor"}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "involved with extraterrestrials.\" But"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "that's exactly what I did. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "call her Kim. She had a short"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "threeletter name. Duh. I What else could"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:29", "text": "you I'm going to call her Kim. I said,"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "\"Kim, my name is John Stewart. I'm from"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "Chicago. I'm a documentarian, which I"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "wasn't."}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "I I want to ask you something and just"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "don't hang up on me. Just let me let me"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "say what I have to say. Is there any way"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:48", "text": "possible that your husband, Dr. Wilson,"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "was involved with a secretive government"}, {"start": "01:58:48", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "project program out at Area 51?"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "on my right hand to God. And I know I I"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "know that's a perception qualifier, but"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "I like it's an Italian Chicago thing to"}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "do. Johnny, on my right hand to God,"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "she there's a pause and I'll never"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "forget the line she used. She's like,"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "\"That's really interesting, John. A"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "light bulb is coming on over my head.\""}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "And I I I said, \"Kim, I I I don't"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "understand.\""}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "She said, \"There was a real bone of"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "contention with a web in me.\" She used"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "his nickname. I did not call him by his"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:24", "text": "nickname and the nickname was on that"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "document."}, {"start": "01:59:24", "end": "01:59:27", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:29", "text": ">> Whoa. Right. She says there was a really"}, {"start": "01:59:27", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "big bone of contention between Web and"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:34", "text": "I. Interesting. She said whenever we"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "would go out with our friend group, they"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "were from Korea, World War II, Vietnam."}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "They had funny stories about a foxhole"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "or the the food at a base or a funny"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "drill sergeant."}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "My husband would never chime in. He"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "would just stand there, sit there"}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "quietly. friends would ask what what"}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "what what did he do that he can't talk"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:55", "text": "about anything doesn't want to talk"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "about anything she said John it was such"}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "a bone of contention that verbiage there"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:01", "text": "was such a bone of contention that it"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "almost caused us a divorce I I would"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "scream at him what did you do that was"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "so terrible that you can't tell me and"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "she said you're solving a family secret"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "what did he do out there"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "oh my god I said well not only can I"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "tell you what he did I have the video I"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "said Kim I almost said her real name,"}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "Kim."}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "He was a doctor, a medic for a program"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:29", "text": "that retained and interrogated"}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "extraterrestrials. I I'm sorry. I know"}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "this is bizarre and crazy, but this is"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "what came across my desk. I have a"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "video."}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "Can I send it to you? Yes. I said, \"Do"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "you know how to go on YouTube if I send"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "you the link?\" She's like, \"Yes, I I"}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "know how to.\" I send her the YouTube"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "video. Five minutes later, I call her"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:50", "text": "back. She's like, \"John, I am.\" And and"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "we and we blew it up"}, {"start": "02:00:50", "end": "02:00:53", "text": ">> so you could barely see like D and I was"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "that, you know, because we wanted to see"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "the the can't really see the right"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "medic, but she can make out the face."}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:00", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:02", "text": ">> When we blew it up, she's like, I called"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "her up. I said, \"John, I can't be 100%"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "sure, but the doctor on our left, that's"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "Web. I know the bridge of the nose. I"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "know my husband and a medical mask I've"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "seen the time. I believe that's my"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "husband. I believe that's my husband. My"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "husband had an anglier angular face"}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "and um I'm not 100% but that looks that"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "looks like web."}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "And uh I said I I I can't Pam. I don't"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:35", "text": "know what I I don't I don't know what to"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:37", "text": "say at this point. I I I'm like um"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "he never mentioned anything. She's like,"}, {"start": "02:01:37", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "\"No, and I told you we would get in"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "fights that you know what was.\" She"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "goes, \"And now I know what possibly he"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "why he kept this secret from me.\" Funny."}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "Victor says the medical staff at S4 is"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "chosen more for their ability to keep"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "secrets than their medical knowledge."}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:57", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "Doesn't end. She goes, \"You live in"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "Chicago. My daughter lives in south"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "suburbs of Chicago. I'm going to give"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "you her name and number if you ever want"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:06", "text": "to talk to her about her stepfather."}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:08", "text": "Here it is.\" Like like I'm getting"}, {"start": "02:02:06", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "invited to the next family party. Sure."}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:13", "text": ">> You know, like not like buzz off, crazy"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "guy. Don't ever call me. Don't ever call"}, {"start": "02:02:13", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "me again."}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:18", "text": ">> I have tried to get a hold of this"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:19", "text": "person, her daughter. She has not"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "returned my emails or my phone calls."}, {"start": "02:02:19", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "I'm going to have to go to her"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "townhouse."}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:24", "text": ">> It's by an auto auction that I go to."}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "I'm just going to have to knock on the"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "door. I've done this before, but that is"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "happening. Um, and she doesn't have a"}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "Facebook where I can see if she had"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "pictures maybe of her stepdad. That"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "would this would be very very helpful."}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "And I am afraid to go back to the widow"}, {"start": "02:02:36", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "because I it's almost like it it didn't"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:40", "text": "happen. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:42", "text": ">> Does that make sense? Like you don't"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "want the bubble to be burst. I don't"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "want her to say I never told you. She"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "did tell me this. She told me"}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:51", "text": ">> But and I don't want to go back in case"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:54", "text": "we have to film this again for a docue"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "series. It could be fresh. But that"}, {"start": "02:02:54", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "story is 1,000% accurate what she told"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "me how secretive he was. The next name"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:08", "text": "on the list was Carthusian Monk one. I"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:09", "text": "know. Carthusian Monk 2. Yes, we're now"}, {"start": "02:03:08", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "in the Da Vinci Code."}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:16", "text": ">> And I'm like, okay, okay, here we go."}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "Carthusian monk. Now I Google Carthusian"}, {"start": "02:03:16", "end": "02:03:21", "text": "monk. There is a monastery"}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "in Vermont. It's called the Charter"}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:26", "text": "House Transformational Monastery. The"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "sect, the religious sect, Christian sect"}, {"start": "02:03:26", "end": "02:03:31", "text": "there is the Carthusian order. Okay?"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:33", "text": ">> And there they are monks."}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:35", "text": ">> Take a kind of a vow of silence and"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "poverty and so on and so forth. I am"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:39", "text": "going to jump ahead to let you know what"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "we found out."}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:44", "text": ">> I I have the picture of this of this one"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:47", "text": "monk who was an alleged thought"}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "projection interviewee."}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:53", "text": ">> So they were the psychics."}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:55", "text": "So, and an investigator of eyes actually"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "went there, made contact and talked with"}, {"start": "02:03:55", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "him. He's 91 years old. We call him"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "Brother Tom. Some some of us call him"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "Brother Patrick. Some of us my"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "investigation cohorts."}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "And um he's 91 years old. I'm I'm going"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "to blow your mind now. He said that Did"}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "you get this on film?"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:17", "text": ">> No, we we couldn't fil and I know. Okay."}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:19", "text": "You can't take a camera into the car"}, {"start": "02:04:17", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "charter house. They're they basically"}, {"start": "02:04:19", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "take a vow of silence. What he said was"}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "that remote viewers"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:30", "text": "um with the NSA were getting a we're"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "getting this vibe remote viewing of a"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "white building in the far upper east"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "coast where members there had the gift"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "telepathic gift or whatnot."}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:45", "text": ">> Wait, so these Carthusian monks were"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "found by remote viewers? And I I I want"}, {"start": "02:04:45", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "to know if this was done in the 60s,"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "would one of those view remote viewers"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "be Joel Mc McNogle?"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:54", "text": ">> McMonagle."}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:55", "text": ">> McMongle. Come on."}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:56", "text": ">> How many could there have been back in"}, {"start": "02:04:55", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "the 60s?"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:00", "text": ">> I mean, potentially."}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:02", "text": ">> Potentially. So, so that that that would"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "be a great interview. He said that they"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "found out that we had the gift. There"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "was a total of six monks that they used."}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:13", "text": "Do you think he said right away we went"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "right to S4 primarily used in what what"}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "was the um the ally side of Germany? The"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "west. Yeah. East Berlin was the"}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:26", "text": "communist that they were used for"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:28", "text": "counter inelligence vetting or um um in"}, {"start": "02:05:26", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "in analyzing whether a someone was"}, {"start": "02:05:28", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "telling the government the truth. A"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "mole, an agent, counter intel, you name"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "it. um where documents were, where this"}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "person was, is this person leaking in"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:44", "text": "all kinds of counterintelligence"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "um work. He he and these these men were"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "used in West Germany by the government."}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "He said then um in in the 80s they were"}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "some of them were brought to S4"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:59", "text": ">> and were were um asked to do thought"}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "projection interviews with these beings."}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "And he said that him"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:04", "text": ">> he said that"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:06", "text": ">> him and another monk were very adept. He"}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "said that he would sit down and he was"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "talking about the his his his"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:11", "text": ">> and he said this to researcher friends"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "of yours"}, {"start": "02:06:11", "end": "02:06:15", "text": ">> one of our investigators not a somebody"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:15", "text": "I one of our investigators"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:18", "text": ">> okay"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:20", "text": ">> and he and I'm getting the story"}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:22", "text": "thirdand"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "said that he would his the other monk"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "was so good that he would sit down he"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "would start going like this to the"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "general okay you know that object you're"}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:32", "text": "looking at in the Indian Ocean he said"}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "that it's uh it's not that deep and that"}, {"start": "02:06:32", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "he was he the our monk was good. This"}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "guy was"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:39", "text": ">> like a a savant"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:41", "text": ">> next level."}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:43", "text": ">> One of the only things that he was"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "willing to talk about was how difficult"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "it was to to"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "relay or transfer back and forth basic"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "technical uh consu ideas. He said that"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "it took a a a couple of days um to I"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "know this is going to sound crazy but to"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "to to describe how human beings um live"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "in our time, seconds, minutes, days. The"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "being did not understand that. And the"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "monk said that they finally figured out"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "that that this type of alien use what's"}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "called time sequence. that they measure"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "time in their experiences layered on top"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "of each other."}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:29", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:30", "text": ">> I don't even know what I don't even know"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "what I'm saying,"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:36", "text": ">> but this is what was told to us. and he"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:37", "text": "was willing to to relieve relive that um"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "that piece of information and how"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "frustrating it was for him,"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:45", "text": ">> you know, to to um to"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:49", "text": ">> translate that"}, {"start": "02:07:45", "end": "02:07:50", "text": ">> to translate basic concepts um"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:52", "text": ">> of time"}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:54", "text": ">> of of of of other things too because"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "they could they were not verbal. The"}, {"start": "02:07:54", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "beings were not were not verbal and and"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "that's and we've we got a picture of"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "him. I spent a year um negotiating with"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "the family for a lot to allow us to"}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "release it. We finally got them to allow"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "us to do an artist sketch of the photo."}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:15", "text": "He looks like an 80s Philadelphia gym"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:17", "text": "high school teacher with the 80s big"}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:20", "text": "glasses. He's got one tooth longer than"}, {"start": "02:08:17", "end": "02:08:22", "text": "the big tooth. He's got the monk cassak"}, {"start": "02:08:20", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "on. He looks like he's in a Catholic"}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:26", "text": "school gymnasium background, you know,"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:28", "text": "with the with the lamin with the ply,"}, {"start": "02:08:26", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "you know, with the, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:08:28", "end": "02:08:31", "text": "mahogany plywood."}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:32", "text": ">> And he was a he was a communicator for"}, {"start": "02:08:31", "end": "02:08:34", "text": "the aliens,"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:35", "text": ">> thought projection communicator for the"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "for the beans."}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:37", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Time sequence."}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:42", "text": ">> And so he's he's passed now, I"}, {"start": "02:08:39", "end": "02:08:43", "text": ">> still living. He's 91 and he told we we"}, {"start": "02:08:42", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "our investigator went there 6 months"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:48", "text": "ago. Here's another bizarre story. Wait,"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "this Hold on. When he was old and he"}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "knows he said he's"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:52", "text": ">> Put it in the park for a second here."}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:53", "text": ">> Go ahead,"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:53", "text": ">> cuz I have something else to tell you."}, {"start": "02:08:53", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "That's"}, {"start": "02:08:53", "end": "02:08:57", "text": ">> You're telling me there's a guy a few"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "hours south of here that's living in a"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "monastery. The Charter House"}, {"start": "02:08:59", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "Transformational Monastery in Mount"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:07", "text": "Equinox, Vermont. Yes."}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:08", "text": ">> And and and I can I go there?"}, {"start": "02:09:07", "end": "02:09:09", "text": ">> They're not going to let you talk to"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:11", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:14", "text": ">> I don't Well, because they all take a v"}, {"start": "02:09:11", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "vow of silence. They You know, it's very"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "You should go. I'm not stopping anymore."}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:21", "text": ">> I'll take a vow of silence. Whoa. Vow of"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "silence is interesting, too. I just made"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "that connection"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:29", "text": ">> because the lack of sound and the lack"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "of speaking might heighten the"}, {"start": "02:09:29", "end": "02:09:32", "text": "telepathic senses."}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:34", "text": ">> What if that Joe McNogle said that he"}, {"start": "02:09:32", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "was the guy that outed him?"}, {"start": "02:09:34", "end": "02:09:37", "text": ">> I'm going to I'm going to ask Joe"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:39", "text": ">> have to."}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:41", "text": ">> Um, but I also want to take a road trip"}, {"start": "02:09:39", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "to Vermont."}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:43", "text": ">> Uh,"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:45", "text": ">> and I've shown the picture of him in my"}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "documentary. I just showed it on X. I'll"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "I'll give it to you again. Uh um can I"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "tell you another bizarre thing about"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "this? You should go to verify this."}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:10:00", "text": ">> My investigator says"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:02", "text": ">> strangest thing. This is a m a Christian"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "monastery."}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "There were two state troopers kind of"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "guarding the grounds in two white pickup"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:10", "text": "trucks. Where else do we see white"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "pickup trucks? I am not saying this to"}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:16", "text": "make an area 50. I am just saying"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:19", "text": ">> Broncos. Would you would you use the"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:21", "text": "discretion and the funds of the military"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "intelligence apparatus to hire Wacken"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:27", "text": "Hut, the same security at Area 51? Would"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "you use the same security to guard the"}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "perimeter of this monastery? I don't"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:33", "text": "know. I just find it interesting that"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "state police were there. Vermont state"}, {"start": "02:10:33", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "police and and two white pickup trucks"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "were there."}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:41", "text": ">> How fun for them that the people who"}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "know the most took a vow of silence like"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "that. It's also maybe"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:45", "text": ">> well I'm sure they talk to intelligence"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "about what they're being."}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:49", "text": ">> Do you know what I mean? But they're"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "like hey like let's get these guys. Not"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "only you know are they perfect telepaths"}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "because of their vow of silence but"}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:57", "text": "they're also you know they also won't"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:10:58", "text": "say a word."}, {"start": "02:10:57", "end": "02:11:01", "text": ">> And again I'm like how did they how did"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "a monk get to because Victor Victor says"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "the telepath program was a joke."}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:08", "text": ">> They were hiring people that were 1800"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "psychics practically."}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "again"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:14", "text": ">> when you are desperate like"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:16", "text": ">> no but that that was part of the program"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "initially with with not only Stargate"}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:20", "text": "but Center Lane and Sunstreak and Grill"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:22", "text": "Flame they went through a list of"}, {"start": "02:11:20", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "natural psychics before they started"}, {"start": "02:11:22", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "training the army to do it"}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:29", "text": ">> but I'm hearkening hearkenering back to"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "Bob Lazar when you are desperate you are"}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "the government and you need this"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "information you're gonna you're gonna do"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:38", "text": "desperate things you're gonna hire a Bob"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:40", "text": "Lazar you're gonna hire a Stan Deo"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "You're going to hire a Dan Burish that"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "you know all are have sketchy"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "educational backgrounds. You're going to"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:50", "text": "take a roll of the dice and one of the"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "one of the psychics was a was a telepath"}, {"start": "02:11:50", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "was a farmer that that condom was the"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:56", "text": "government. He was only in that this"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "program. This was told to me by the"}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "other by the widow of the other esport"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "telepath that they that they shoot him"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "out. There was a lot of in andout of"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "charlatans bas basically."}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:07", "text": ">> Wow. And um and so when you're"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "desperate, you're thinking out of the"}, {"start": "02:12:07", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "box. You're going to make desperate"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "moves. And and I think that's what"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "Victor's alluding to with hiring these"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:15", "text": ">> Yeah. and time."}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:16", "text": ">> Victor called it 1800 psychics. Right"}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "now,"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:22", "text": ">> um now Victor comes back in '08 and"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "says, \"We finally figured out what the"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "aliens were telling us and it ain't"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "good.\" And that's when Victor, I think"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "this is scary,"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:33", "text": ">> says to the documentary crew in '08,"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "don't plan on any 20th anniversary of"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:37", "text": "this documentary."}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:40", "text": ">> I might not be here, but I know you're"}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "not going to be here. 20 years from '08"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "is what would that be?"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:46", "text": ">> Almost 2027. Oh my."}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:51", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:53", "text": ">> 08. An alleged whistleblower from S4"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "says, \"Don't plan on a 20th"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "anniversary.\""}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Not a 30th"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:03", "text": ">> which is 20 27"}, {"start": "02:12:58", "end": "02:13:04", "text": ">> that is yeah that's that's and"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "02:13:04", "end": "02:13:06", "text": ">> do you need like do you need like a"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:08", "text": "Pepto-Bismol a mox"}, {"start": "02:13:06", "end": "02:13:10", "text": ">> no there's a lot of just information"}, {"start": "02:13:08", "end": "02:13:11", "text": "there's a lot of information in my head"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:14", "text": "right now you know obviously I shared"}, {"start": "02:13:11", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "with you and this is something um that"}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "I'm I don't I don't know in what order"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:21", "text": "this will go out if this podcast will go"}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "out first or the other one but we did"}, {"start": "02:13:21", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "have a gentleman here who had received"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "received some messages"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "um telepathically which once decoded"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "talked about some imminent invasion as"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "well or some imminent threat uh to this"}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "planet right you know and which coming"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "from like the Zeta star system also the"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:45", "text": "same system that Bob Lazar was briefed"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "on which was also at S4 which might be"}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:52", "text": "these beings like it all kind of ties in"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "perfectly and neatly and you know when"}, {"start": "02:13:52", "end": "02:13:56", "text": "something's tied in that neatly It's"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "either one by design or two. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:13:56", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "that's just the way it is, you know."}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:05", "text": ">> Thank you. So now, I mean, this is"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "obviously super super interesting, you"}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:10", "text": "know, hearing about all these people"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "that I didn't think"}, {"start": "02:14:10", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "were even would even be possible to get"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "their names, you know, because they're"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "just shadowy figures. And then you"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "intercept this email that drops all"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "these names. you're following up on"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "every sing I gotta say, John, you are"}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "pretty thorough and and hats off to you"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:29", "text": "for, you know, putting in the leg work."}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "I don't think a lot of people realize"}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:34", "text": "that when they, you know, you're very"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "vocal on X. Um, and and sometimes, you"}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:38", "text": "know, my apologies, maybe to a fault. I"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "think I think a lot of people get put"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "off by your uh personality because"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "they're not they don't have that"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "gumption to do the work, you know. So,"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:49", "text": "it's surprising. It catches people off"}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:53", "text": "guard, you know, because you don't see"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "that in a lot of today's generation. You"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "just don't see that, right? So, as Ralph"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "Blumenthal from the New York Times went,"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "you got out of your car and knocked on"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "his door."}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:04", "text": ">> I said, \"This is up all the president's"}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "men, you know,"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:07", "text": "Robert Redford and uh and uh yeah.\" I'm"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:09", "text": "like, \"Yes.\""}, {"start": "02:15:07", "end": "02:15:12", "text": ">> Yeah. You're dumb, baby."}, {"start": "02:15:09", "end": "02:15:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. You're uh you're Denzel"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:18", "text": "Washington in Man on Fire or whatever,"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": ">> right? Um, so yeah, hats off to to"}, {"start": "02:15:18", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "putting in the leg work. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "definitely. And I think that that needs"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "to be duly noted."}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:24", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:28", "text": ">> For anyone thinking this is like lazy"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "journalism or um you know uh anecdotal,"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:33", "text": "be that as it may, anecdotal evidence is"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "still valuable in my opinion. Um and the"}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:37", "text": "fact that you went out there and did all"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "this work might lead to a breakthrough"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "and that's really really really great."}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "So yeah, thank you for doing all this"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "work."}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:42", "text": ">> Welcome."}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:44", "text": ">> All right, let's go. Well, I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:15:42", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "tell you something that I've never"}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:49", "text": "stated publicly as I go into this story,"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "and I'm not saying this to be um sorry,"}, {"start": "02:15:49", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "can I cut you off? Sure. If you hear"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "anything, there is there's like a parade"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "going on out here for like Christmas or"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:00", "text": "something. I don't know. But there you"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "might not even pick it up in the edits."}, {"start": "02:16:00", "end": "02:16:05", "text": "We might, you know, use some AI to"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "whatever. But if you do that, it's rest"}, {"start": "02:16:05", "end": "02:16:07", "text": "assured it's none of this. And"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:09", "text": ">> you know, my wife would say, my wife"}, {"start": "02:16:07", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "would say, \"Well, of course there's a"}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "parade right outside. You got John"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "Stewart here.\" you know what can go"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "wrong is going to go wrong."}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:17", "text": ">> All right, let's go."}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:18", "text": ">> No, so I what I'm about to say I've"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "never said publicly"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:22", "text": ">> and you deserve that because you know I"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "really respect your show and and bring"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "me out here. I I I really appreciate and"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:30", "text": "and I'm not saying this to hype up the"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "drama. I I I I think this story very"}, {"start": "02:16:30", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "this very quick part of the story um uh"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:42", "text": "should be told because I think it gives"}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "a little bit of um it it adds this tone"}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "of this is no longer,"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:51", "text": "you know, happy golucky former pro"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "wrestler car dealer, you know, going to"}, {"start": "02:16:51", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "find an alien and and prove an alien"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "video and and and I was wrong. But my"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:05", "text": "but the the mentality that I had um what"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "I'm about to tell you was very real to"}, {"start": "02:17:05", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "me and other people were feeding this"}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:13", "text": "beware. So um and so I just want to say"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "that I don't want people to think, oh,"}, {"start": "02:17:13", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "he's telling the story for it. No, I'm"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:20", "text": "not. I want to be completely and utterly"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "honest and how how kind of scary things"}, {"start": "02:17:20", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "did get for me at times. So, I have all"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:28", "text": "this information, what I've just told"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "you, the names, the the phone calls. I"}, {"start": "02:17:28", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "said, I think I have enough legs to take"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:36", "text": "this to Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie"}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "Keane of the New York Times"}, {"start": "02:17:36", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "who who were stringers, you know,"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:42", "text": "part-time reporters, um, who could"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:44", "text": "submit stories. Ralph certainly was"}, {"start": "02:17:42", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "full-time at one time. They broke the 17"}, {"start": "02:17:44", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "Lu Alazando"}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "ATIP story and I emailed Ralph and he"}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "put me in contact with Leslie Keane and"}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:18:01", "text": "um they were uh much to my amazement"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:04", "text": "they were impressed enough where they"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:07", "text": "agreed to meet with me at the Midtown"}, {"start": "02:18:04", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "Hilton in in Manhattan. Okay,"}, {"start": "02:18:07", "end": "02:18:14", "text": ">> I got a meeting and so I am telling some"}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "UFO luminaries"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "and and whatnot and some of my uh"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "investigators or helpers who are all"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "like, \"Le, you're going to meet Leslie"}, {"start": "02:18:22", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "Keen in New York. You you know who"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "Leslie is?\" I'm like, \"No, I I I don't.\""}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "And I don't mean to be I am not being"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:35", "text": "derogatory at all. I am just telling you"}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:38", "text": "the story. nothing happened. But I I"}, {"start": "02:18:35", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "want to tell this story because this"}, {"start": "02:18:38", "end": "02:18:43", "text": "story is about me, too. And I don't mean"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:46", "text": "ego me, but you know, I'm the the doofus"}, {"start": "02:18:43", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "that's trying to figure this out."}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:50", "text": ">> And they're telling me she's"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:53", "text": ">> with intel. And if she's not with intel,"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:55", "text": "they're following her. They monitor. She"}, {"start": "02:18:53", "end": "02:18:57", "text": "leaks stuff to them. So, they leak stuff"}, {"start": "02:18:55", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "to her. And it's kind of a symbiotic"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "relationship. then you're going to go"}, {"start": "02:18:59", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "meet Leslie Keane because you can give"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "her the names of that video and you're"}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:09", "text": "going to expose those. You're freaking"}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "nuts. And they worked on me. My own"}, {"start": "02:19:09", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "people worked on me so much that I"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:18", "text": "literally cased the Hilton for an hour"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "eating a PA sandwich on the corner to"}, {"start": "02:19:18", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "see if anybody was,"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:26", "text": ">> you know, if this thing hotel was being"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:28", "text": "monitored, stalked. And I actually w"}, {"start": "02:19:26", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "when I got into my room it my my"}, {"start": "02:19:28", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "mentality you know this is my Paul"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "Benowitz breakdown scene for you know"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:38", "text": "that happened just for a little bit my"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:40", "text": "the scenario and I took a wet towel and"}, {"start": "02:19:38", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "I put it underneath the door. I don't"}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "know do they have smoke that could I"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:48", "text": "don't know my mind was was racing and um"}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "and of course nothing happened and"}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "Leslie could not have been nicer and her"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "and Ralph show up with COVID masks on."}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:19:57", "text": "They look like uh Thelma and Ned from"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "Atoma, Iowa, walking in the Midtown. I'm"}, {"start": "02:19:57", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "like, I'm worried about getting"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:04", "text": "assassinated. But that is that was the"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "one of the lowest parts of the"}, {"start": "02:20:04", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "investigation. They have that feeling"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "like what do you think? This is a game."}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:14", "text": "Men have been killed to protect this"}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "secret. This secret that you're trying"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:19", "text": "to expose. And not only the secret, you"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "you're gonna you're gonna if they did"}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "the story, you're gonna have LOL Jack's"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "name in the New York Times out of your"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "freaking mind. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:30", "text": ">> So that's how scary it got for me. And I"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "never told that story. And of course, I"}, {"start": "02:20:30", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "don't indict Leslie for anything. Later"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "on, I I will tell a story about her."}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:40", "text": ">> And Ralph and Leslie, we spent three"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "hours, we had lunch, and then about an"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "hour and a half into it, Ralph was like,"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:47", "text": "\"Stop."}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "We we we believe you. You got enough for"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "us to take to the science editor. That's"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:53", "text": "the process. Something like this. Aliens"}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "take to the science editor."}, {"start": "02:20:53", "end": "02:21:00", "text": ">> Um if one you can do one thing, get"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:03", "text": "somebody in uniform, get somebody with"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:06", "text": "the government to come forward to say we"}, {"start": "02:21:03", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "have craft, we have a retention program."}, {"start": "02:21:06", "end": "02:21:10", "text": "And I'm like never going to happen. this"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:12", "text": "this is not g, you know, we parted"}, {"start": "02:21:10", "end": "02:21:15", "text": "peacefully and happily and they were"}, {"start": "02:21:12", "end": "02:21:17", "text": "very kind to me. They were um Leslie was"}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:19", "text": "going to go fake an illness to go to"}, {"start": "02:21:17", "end": "02:21:21", "text": "this cardiologist in Connecticut before"}, {"start": "02:21:19", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "we knew he was Craig McFar. I mean, they"}, {"start": "02:21:21", "end": "02:21:25", "text": "were into it. I mean, Ralph and I"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:26", "text": "remember one time Ralph was sitting"}, {"start": "02:21:25", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "there like this"}, {"start": "02:21:26", "end": "02:21:30", "text": ">> like plotting"}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:32", "text": ">> how to help me"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:33", "text": ">> disseminate, break down the story. It's"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:33", "text": "a"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:34", "text": ">> big story."}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:39", "text": ">> Big story."}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "And so, um,"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "four months later, my wife said, \"You"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "got to come downstairs. This guy's on"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "Congress testifying that we had to have"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "pilots.\""}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:52", "text": ">> Yeah. David Grush."}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:54", "text": ">> And there's David Grush. And I'm going,"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:57", "text": "\"Holy [ __ ] I'm going to I'm gonna be"}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "this story. My story is going to be in"}, {"start": "02:21:57", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "the New York Times.\" And and I to this"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "day don't know why Ralph and Leslie"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "did not at least broach this to say we"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:15", "text": "have got a"}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:18", "text": "you know a an officer with the Air Force"}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "telling you that we've got pilots"}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:23", "text": ">> craft there's reverse engineering with"}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "the craft are pilots"}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:26", "text": ">> this might be a pilot and it I think it"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "goes back to"}, {"start": "02:22:26", "end": "02:22:29", "text": ">> a"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:30", "text": "unable to metabolize this."}, {"start": "02:22:29", "end": "02:22:32", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:34", "text": ">> David Gush didn't say that video is"}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "real. And that is my quest right now is"}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:40", "text": "to find someone just got out is in the"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "military, somebody from the agent of"}, {"start": "02:22:40", "end": "02:22:47", "text": "disclosure to look at that video and say"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "that's fake. This is why or that's real"}, {"start": "02:22:47", "end": "02:22:51", "text": "and and this is and this is why. But"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "that's was a very low turning point in"}, {"start": "02:22:51", "end": "02:22:55", "text": "in my life when I was so afraid and"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "paranoid. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:22:55", "end": "02:23:00", "text": ">> That I thought somebody was going to do"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "harm to me. I then get Scott Walter of"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:04", "text": "American on Earth. It's a great story."}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:06", "text": "He's like, I've been communicating with"}, {"start": "02:23:04", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "this agent from the National Air and"}, {"start": "02:23:06", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "Space Intelligence Center at Wright"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "Patty. Have you ever heard of this?"}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:15", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:17", "text": ">> Yeah. And um we vetted him. He's legit."}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:19", "text": "He showed us all our credentials. like"}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "Scott, you got to put me in contact."}, {"start": "02:23:19", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "This is the guy that will, you know,"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:25", "text": "because he wants disclosure. This this"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "guy and he calls himself Holden from"}, {"start": "02:23:25", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "catcher catch22. Somebody almost outered"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "him five years ago. Got his picture. But"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:37", "text": "so after about six months, I finally get"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:40", "text": "a hold right before Thanksgiving. I get"}, {"start": "02:23:37", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "a hold of this secret agent from the All"}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "right, Pat National Air and Space"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:47", "text": "Intelligence Center. Very polite, very"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "intelligent, nicest guy in the world. I"}, {"start": "02:23:47", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "just want to say, Chris, every military"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:55", "text": "intelligence person that I've ever spoke"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "with, I the government hires some really"}, {"start": "02:23:55", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "quality people. I'm complimenting the"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "government. It's I very nice, polite."}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:03", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:06", "text": ">> it's part of the trade craft."}, {"start": "02:24:03", "end": "02:24:08", "text": ">> So, I finally after I I'm an expediter."}, {"start": "02:24:06", "end": "02:24:10", "text": "I do things in seconds and minutes, but"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "the stock market, the car business, I'm"}, {"start": "02:24:10", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "not good at waiting and but I did. So, I"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:17", "text": "finally get a hold of him. We finally"}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "talked a couple days before Thanksgiving"}, {"start": "02:24:17", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "and um he said, \"Well, I you know, I"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:24", "text": "can't tell you everything.\" And he I"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:27", "text": "said, \"You've seen the video.\" He goes,"}, {"start": "02:24:24", "end": "02:24:30", "text": "\"I have.\" I said, \"You told Scott Walter"}, {"start": "02:24:27", "end": "02:24:32", "text": "that it was real.\" He said, \"I did.\""}, {"start": "02:24:30", "end": "02:24:34", "text": "Said, \"I just want to let you know that"}, {"start": "02:24:32", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "the government does have a black, you"}, {"start": "02:24:34", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "know, ops magic department. Um they had"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:41", "text": "one on the West Coast at Lookout"}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:43", "text": "Mountain, I believe, in the 60s for"}, {"start": "02:24:41", "end": "02:24:46", "text": "their missile testing."}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "This is not uncommon for the government"}, {"start": "02:24:46", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "to leak something but recreate it so"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:54", "text": "they're not violating national security."}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "They're not violating this deep secret"}, {"start": "02:24:54", "end": "02:24:59", "text": "so they can say we we tried to tell you."}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:02", "text": "We tried to show you this."}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:05", "text": ">> And just like Greer um this Holden said"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:08", "text": "just don't be saddened if that does"}, {"start": "02:25:05", "end": "02:25:10", "text": "become the case. Um he said they'll even"}, {"start": "02:25:08", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "get actors to look like that military"}, {"start": "02:25:10", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "person that should have been there at"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:17", "text": "that time. He said they're very very"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "very elaborate. He goes, \"But that being"}, {"start": "02:25:17", "end": "02:25:21", "text": "looks awfully authentic to me.\" He's"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:23", "text": "like, \"I just want to tell you a couple"}, {"start": "02:25:21", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "of things about them. The the the film"}, {"start": "02:25:23", "end": "02:25:30", "text": "on the eye that is a light deflector and"}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:32", "text": "it is a biofilm. It's a biological. It's"}, {"start": "02:25:30", "end": "02:25:35", "text": "not, you know, cellulo, you know, or"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:37", "text": "it's an actual biioaterial. Well, it"}, {"start": "02:25:35", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "does come off and that's something I can"}, {"start": "02:25:37", "end": "02:25:40", "text": "tell you. He goes, \"But I I I you know,"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:42", "text": "Scott said you're a good guy. I want to"}, {"start": "02:25:40", "end": "02:25:45", "text": "tell you something that I haven't even"}, {"start": "02:25:42", "end": "02:25:48", "text": "told Scott.\" No one no one on the"}, {"start": "02:25:45", "end": "02:25:49", "text": "internet has ever said this before. And"}, {"start": "02:25:48", "end": "02:25:52", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay, what is he?\" He goes,"}, {"start": "02:25:49", "end": "02:25:54", "text": "\"And I will tell you.\" He goes, \"If you"}, {"start": "02:25:52", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "want to make a general drinking his"}, {"start": "02:25:54", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "coffee in the morning spit up, tell him"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "this. The new designation, this was"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "three years ago, the new designation of"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:07", "text": "aliens is saber. I'm like, like the"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "sword? He's like, yes, saber. I said,"}, {"start": "02:26:07", "end": "02:26:11", "text": "what does that stand for? He goes,"}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "synthetic astrobiological"}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "extraterrestrial races. He goes, now he"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:21", "text": "was telling me this. Now, this is"}, {"start": "02:26:18", "end": "02:26:24", "text": ">> astrobiological. Yeah, this this I'm not"}, {"start": "02:26:21", "end": "02:26:29", "text": "getting melodramatic here, but this was"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:33", "text": "um he was helping me getting in with"}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "other intel people like I know things to"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "let me into your circle, let me into the"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "clubhouse. He was giving me"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:43", "text": ">> this hyperbolic"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:45", "text": ">> um acronym that"}, {"start": "02:26:43", "end": "02:26:46", "text": ">> to this day I've never found out. I'm"}, {"start": "02:26:45", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "the only one that has ever said this, so"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:50", "text": "he must have been true that this was a"}, {"start": "02:26:48", "end": "02:26:51", "text": "new designation"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:52", "text": ">> synthetic"}, {"start": "02:26:51", "end": "02:26:55", "text": ">> astrobiological"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:57", "text": "extraterrestrial races saber. He goes,"}, {"start": "02:26:55", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "\"I am telling you, you mentioned that.\""}, {"start": "02:26:57", "end": "02:27:01", "text": "He said, \"You mentioned that at a"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "Starbucks in Georgetown and a twostar"}, {"start": "02:27:01", "end": "02:27:06", "text": "general is there. He's going to do the"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:09", "text": "spit take.\" I said, \"I I I said I said,"}, {"start": "02:27:06", "end": "02:27:11", "text": "um, I I really appreciate.\" I said, \"But"}, {"start": "02:27:09", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "Ralph and Leslie of the New York Times,"}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:16", "text": "I I need you on camera to tell me this"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:18", "text": "program is real.\""}, {"start": "02:27:16", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "He said, \"I'd be willing to do it, but"}, {"start": "02:27:18", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "you got to get it past my commanding"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:23", "text": "officer."}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:26", "text": "I have put this on Reddit. I've put this"}, {"start": "02:27:23", "end": "02:27:29", "text": "on my on on on other platforms."}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "I developed a list of questions for him."}, {"start": "02:27:29", "end": "02:27:34", "text": "So explosive, so hyperbolic. But if I"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "was going to interview him, I wanted to"}, {"start": "02:27:34", "end": "02:27:40", "text": "get the truth. I agreed in this form to"}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "his commanding officer that he would be"}, {"start": "02:27:40", "end": "02:27:45", "text": "silhouetted. We could voice the sort him"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "just like Victor. But nonetheless, I had"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:48", "text": "to get answers to these questions. When"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "was the first contact with"}, {"start": "02:27:48", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "extraterrestrials?"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:54", "text": "Was it before the 1800s?"}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "Does the United States government in"}, {"start": "02:27:54", "end": "02:27:59", "text": "their possession any any type of"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "biological being offplanet interstellar"}, {"start": "02:27:59", "end": "02:28:06", "text": "interdimensional um uh any any of the"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:08", "text": "type living or deceased? What are some"}, {"start": "02:28:06", "end": "02:28:10", "text": "of the facilities housing these beings"}, {"start": "02:28:08", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "if they have these beings I mean"}, {"start": "02:28:10", "end": "02:28:14", "text": "explosive"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "I gave it sent it to his commanding"}, {"start": "02:28:14", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "officer at Wright Pat and he gave me a"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "code for his commanding officer. Now I'm"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "in the milit, you know, like and I still"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "don't. It was like an acronym and the"}, {"start": "02:28:23", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "fax number."}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "Okay. A week, two weeks, three weeks. I"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:34", "text": "email him. We were emailing each other"}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "on Signal."}, {"start": "02:28:34", "end": "02:28:37", "text": "I call Scott Walter. I'm like, \"Dude,"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:39", "text": "have you heard from Holden?\" He's like,"}, {"start": "02:28:37", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "\"No, I haven't.\" I'm like, \"He hasn't.\""}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:42", "text": "It's like, \"John, this he he's always"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:45", "text": "doing something."}, {"start": "02:28:42", "end": "02:28:49", "text": "Take it's going to take some time.\" Six"}, {"start": "02:28:45", "end": "02:28:51", "text": "weeks go by. F seven weeks go by. I'm"}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "like, Scott, am I in trouble here? This"}, {"start": "02:28:51", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "is really starting to freak me out. This"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:58", "text": "guy was calling me. He has not returned"}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:29:00", "text": "my email after this explosive thing."}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "Scott's like, just please you just bear"}, {"start": "02:29:00", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "with me. About about two months go by."}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "And I finally said to Scott, I'm sorry."}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "This is ridiculous."}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:14", "text": "I need to know if and I am texting this"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "Holden. Am I in trouble? What? Why won't"}, {"start": "02:29:14", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "you just tell me? Go fly a kite, buzz"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "off or whatnot. Scott go, I I agree."}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:25", "text": "This is ridiculous. He said he would try"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "and help you. I'm going to call him."}, {"start": "02:29:25", "end": "02:29:31", "text": "About a half hour after Scott Walter"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "told me this, I get this is this happy,"}, {"start": "02:29:31", "end": "02:29:39", "text": "kind, gental person from the NISC"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "who is nicer than nice. I get this text"}, {"start": "02:29:39", "end": "02:29:43", "text": "and you could just tell that somebody"}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:46", "text": "was standing over him. You're gonna"}, {"start": "02:29:43", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "write this and you better write this."}, {"start": "02:29:46", "end": "02:29:52", "text": "Don't ever contact me again. You are to"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:54", "text": "destroy all of our communications. You"}, {"start": "02:29:52", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "are to destroy your notes of our"}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "communications. I am um denying anything"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:03", "text": "that I told you about anything to do um"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "with extraterrestrials or the program. I"}, {"start": "02:30:03", "end": "02:30:07", "text": "know I have no knowledge of this program"}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:09", "text": "or no authority to tell you anything."}, {"start": "02:30:07", "end": "02:30:13", "text": "Um, and you because of your foyer"}, {"start": "02:30:09", "end": "02:30:15", "text": "request. I never told him I did crazy"}, {"start": "02:30:13", "end": "02:30:18", "text": "foyer request of the Dan Burrus"}, {"start": "02:30:15", "end": "02:30:20", "text": "documents to the DIA. I never told him"}, {"start": "02:30:18", "end": "02:30:23", "text": "this, Chris. And because of your reoer"}, {"start": "02:30:20", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "request, you are now on a special watch"}, {"start": "02:30:23", "end": "02:30:29", "text": "list of the DoD. Boom."}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:32", "text": ">> Whoa. And and I was like, \"Oh, this"}, {"start": "02:30:29", "end": "02:30:34", "text": "nice, you know, nice Chris Ramsay is all"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "of a sudden is like I'm like you could"}, {"start": "02:30:34", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "just tell"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:39", "text": ">> Yeah. He was somebody forced his hand.\""}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:41", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "And um so"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:45", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:49", "text": ">> Yeah. So, uh you know, I knew that."}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:51", "text": ">> When was this? How how many years ago?"}, {"start": "02:30:49", "end": "02:30:54", "text": ">> 20 Well, it was right 23."}, {"start": "02:30:51", "end": "02:30:57", "text": ">> I Ralph and Leslie was August. When did"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "Grush come forward? 23 of of I. So Ralph"}, {"start": "02:30:57", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "and Leslie was August. So this was"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:03", "text": "Thanksgivingish 2023."}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:07", "text": ">> And when I got that, my hand was"}, {"start": "02:31:03", "end": "02:31:09", "text": "shaking. I'm like, how does he know"}, {"start": "02:31:07", "end": "02:31:11", "text": ">> that I did a foyer request? I did one"}, {"start": "02:31:09", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "from the to the Department of Defense"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "asking for Coen Powell's travel schedule"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:18", "text": "at this time of this filming."}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:21", "text": ">> Okay. And I sent one to the DIA"}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:24", "text": "asking and I want to talk about this"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "about the Q94109A"}, {"start": "02:31:24", "end": "02:31:30", "text": "document that Dan Burrus brought forward"}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "of the extraction of tissue with the"}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:36", "text": "with the pressurized gun because of the"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:38", "text": "the neuropathy that JRod had. I sent"}, {"start": "02:31:36", "end": "02:31:41", "text": "that I want all the information for this"}, {"start": "02:31:38", "end": "02:31:44", "text": "document. Now I contacted Richard Dodie"}, {"start": "02:31:41", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "and Dodie said, \"Do you realize what you"}, {"start": "02:31:44", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "sent the DIA?\" He goes, \"I don't know"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:51", "text": "what if that document is real, but that"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:55", "text": "is a code.\" Dodie said, \"John, every"}, {"start": "02:31:51", "end": "02:31:59", "text": "area at S4 at Nellis test and training"}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "range has a designation, an alpha, an"}, {"start": "02:31:59", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "alpha designation. Romeo, Quebec, um,"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "Delta, Bravo.\" He goes, \"Que is the"}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "section of S4."}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "uh 94 is the year that this document was"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "created and 109 is the you know"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "obviously some kind of"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:19", "text": ">> department"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:22", "text": ">> department cataloging or whatever number"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "this document Dodie goes you sent that"}, {"start": "02:32:22", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "to the DIA and he I said yeah"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:32", "text": ">> he goes give me a give me a few days"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:34", "text": "calls me back and he said uh we got a"}, {"start": "02:32:32", "end": "02:32:35", "text": "little bit of an issue he goes I'm"}, {"start": "02:32:34", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "talking to somebody at DNI he's a friend"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:40", "text": "of mine at the DIA um about other"}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "things. And I said, \"You don't happen to"}, {"start": "02:32:40", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "know John Stewart?\" And and and and uh"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:49", "text": "Rick said I I said uh Rick asked him,"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "\"You don't happen to know John Stewart?\""}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:55", "text": "And Rick said, \"John, just calm down.\""}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:58", "text": "He said, \"The guy went, \"Oh, we know"}, {"start": "02:32:55", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "John Stewart very well.\""}, {"start": "02:32:58", "end": "02:33:05", "text": "His foyer request sent trip this quote"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "trip flares up in our agency. He goes,"}, {"start": "02:33:05", "end": "02:33:11", "text": "\"Rick, this guy is sending us stuff that"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "we don't we've never even we've never"}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:17", "text": "even had to um to look for. This is like"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:19", "text": "a first time ever what he sent us.\" He"}, {"start": "02:33:17", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "wouldn't tell Rick what I what I sent"}, {"start": "02:33:19", "end": "02:33:23", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "Now, after this interaction, I call the"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "DIA. I am friends with Cheryl Cross"}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "Robinson who was head of information of"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "DIA. It's Ray. It's Uncle John. How you"}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "doing? you know, she's like, \"Oh, I have"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "the stories of you with you're the alien"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:39", "text": "guy.\" It was that informal, but I get"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "this guy named Andrew on the phone. I"}, {"start": "02:33:39", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "said, \"I sent a Rafoya request couple of"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "months ago. I have not heard anything"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:47", "text": "about it.\" He said, \"Okay, what's your"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "name?\" John Stewart. And he went, \"Hm.\""}, {"start": "02:33:47", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "And I get this. I've gotten this a lot."}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "He goes, \"Well, this is strange.\" I"}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:54", "text": "said, \"What's what's the problem?\" He"}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:56", "text": "said, \"Um, your name is on our file"}, {"start": "02:33:54", "end": "02:33:58", "text": "logging system, but there's no file"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:00", "text": "attached to your name.\" I said, \"What's"}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "the problem with that?\" He doesn't know."}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:06", "text": "I could be asking about an antenna relay"}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:08", "text": "at Esport or Area 51."}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:10", "text": ">> Again, doesn't know what I'm talking"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:13", "text": "about. He goes, \"Well, you can't get on"}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:17", "text": "this file foyer file system.\" This is"}, {"start": "02:34:13", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "Andrew at the DIA foil foyer department"}, {"start": "02:34:17", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "without having a file attached. Somebody"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "had to come in and remove it. This was"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "said to me. I said, \"Okay.\" He goes,"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:27", "text": "\"Let me do some digging for you. I'll"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "find out what happened.\" Goes, \"I don't"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:30", "text": "know how this happened. You you have to"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:33", "text": "have a file."}, {"start": "02:34:30", "end": "02:34:35", "text": ">> Somebody removed it for whatever reason."}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:38", "text": ">> I get a call back in about 30 minutes."}, {"start": "02:34:35", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "Now it's like colden. Mr. Stewart. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:45", "text": "This is Andrew the DIA. Hi. What's going"}, {"start": "02:34:41", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "on? Yeah. So, uh you know um we found"}, {"start": "02:34:45", "end": "02:34:50", "text": "your request. You're going to get a"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:52", "text": "email um from the uh information officer"}, {"start": "02:34:50", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "and then you're going to get a hard copy"}, {"start": "02:34:52", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "and uh and then that's that's the end of"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "it. And that's you know. I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "who's who took my file off?\" I said, \"I"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "don't know.\" He goes, \"But this is what"}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "I've been told, and you're going to get"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "the information. You're going to get an"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "email in a in a few minutes.\" I get this"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:09", "text": "email"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:11", "text": "from the DIA, but in the the the body of"}, {"start": "02:35:09", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "the email says, \"Due to the unique"}, {"start": "02:35:11", "end": "02:35:15", "text": "nature of your foyer request, we are"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "going to have to conduct interdep"}, {"start": "02:35:15", "end": "02:35:20", "text": "departmental conferences and meetings to"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:22", "text": "discuss the way we are going to"}, {"start": "02:35:20", "end": "02:35:23", "text": "disseminate this information to you.\""}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:25", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "02:35:23", "end": "02:35:27", "text": ">> like like they're going to, you know,"}, {"start": "02:35:25", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "the the DIA is going to go over to the"}, {"start": "02:35:27", "end": "02:35:30", "text": "NSA to the DoD and they're going to be"}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:33", "text": "around a conference room with bagels and"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:38", "text": "coffee talking about me and my crazy"}, {"start": "02:35:33", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "request and um and and you know, you"}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "know, you're treading on this water of"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:46", "text": "like Jesus, is is the rug going to be"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:47", "text": "pulled out? Am I really poking um"}, {"start": "02:35:46", "end": "02:35:49", "text": ">> the nest"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:51", "text": ">> the the hornets's nest? You know, am I"}, {"start": "02:35:49", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "getting myself into in in into in"}, {"start": "02:35:51", "end": "02:35:55", "text": "trouble? And everybody wants to talk"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "about Rick Dodie. Rick Dodie has told me"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:01", "text": "nothing about this film. And he's either"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:03", "text": "protecting Victor or protecting the"}, {"start": "02:36:01", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "entire program. Yes. He said, \"Look, I"}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:07", "text": "know we have an extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:09", "text": "retention and interrogation program.\" He"}, {"start": "02:36:07", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "goes, \"John, that is the unofficial name"}, {"start": "02:36:09", "end": "02:36:12", "text": "of it. I can tell you that.\""}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:14", "text": ">> He goes, \"But I was never down at the"}, {"start": "02:36:12", "end": "02:36:16", "text": "third and fourth level, a counter"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "intelligence agent. Is he telling you he"}, {"start": "02:36:16", "end": "02:36:22", "text": "wasn't somewhere?\" and Dodie. Dodie, one"}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "thing I I I I respect and and can tell"}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:30", "text": "about Dodie is same with Victor. There"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "is reticence and um um I I want to get"}, {"start": "02:36:30", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "you the right the right um"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "I had it somewhere. Perception"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:40", "text": "receptors, which is Dodie has never said"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "to me, look, I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "honestly, we have an alien program,"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "Victor. Um I'm not going to lie to you."}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:50", "text": "Yes, this was a real alien. Those are"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "perception recept that people that liars"}, {"start": "02:36:50", "end": "02:36:55", "text": "use those pre-qualifiers. Dodie and"}, {"start": "02:36:52", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "Victor have never never said that. If if"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "anything, Richard Dodie and Victor have"}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:37:02", "text": "been reticent. I don't know. I'm not"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "sure. I wasn't briefed in on that. I"}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:07", "text": "can't tell you those according to the"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "FBI agent and to the Reed School police"}, {"start": "02:37:07", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "officers is hallmarks of someone telling"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:14", "text": "you the truth, which we tal you and I"}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:16", "text": "talked off camera. Truth tellers are"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "they they limit their information. And"}, {"start": "02:37:16", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "it's what are you asking me? I will tell"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "you there is no more there's no drama to"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:24", "text": "it. They don't um they don't flourish."}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "They don't"}, {"start": "02:37:24", "end": "02:37:28", "text": ">> they don't build upon information to"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "convince you that that it's that it's"}, {"start": "02:37:28", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "truth. And that that is something that I"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "was very impressed with Richard Dodie."}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "What he didn't tell me that he did not"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "know whether that was truth. That's yeah"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "that's a that's a hot topic you know"}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "Richard Dodie in this space because"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:45", "text": "anybody whether it's William Moore"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:47", "text": "Richard Dodie or even you know as recent"}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "as Lou Alzando anytime you're involved"}, {"start": "02:37:47", "end": "02:37:53", "text": "with counter intelligence the red flags"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:56", "text": "uh you know and and and skepticism about"}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:57", "text": "these people's uh you know agendas start"}, {"start": "02:37:56", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "popping up"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:01", "text": ">> but what do you do when a tell you a"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "counter intelligence agent tells you I"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "don't know"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:05", "text": ">> right no"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:07", "text": ">> that's help me no this is this is not an"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:08", "text": "interview this is Hey, dialogue. Help"}, {"start": "02:38:07", "end": "02:38:09", "text": "me. What? I don't know what to do with"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:10", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:11", "text": ">> No. Yeah. I I"}, {"start": "02:38:10", "end": "02:38:14", "text": ">> Is that Is that another counter"}, {"start": "02:38:11", "end": "02:38:16", "text": "intelligence aspect?"}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:16", "text": ">> Tell them you don't know. Then that"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "sounds like"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:20", "text": ">> But I mean, potentially. I don't know."}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "You know, that's the keep keeping an"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:23", "text": "keeping an open mind to all of that is"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:25", "text": "definitely the way to go and just kind"}, {"start": "02:38:23", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "of absorbing the information."}, {"start": "02:38:25", "end": "02:38:28", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:30", "text": ">> all right. I want to I want to talk"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "about this for a second."}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:34", "text": ">> Um, you know, you had tweeted out that"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:36", "text": "there's two things you can't talk about."}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "All right. And and I'm gonna I'm gonna"}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "push you a little bit on this."}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:39", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:42", "text": ">> Um you said one of the two things you"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "can't talk about was"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "um some timeline manipulation or"}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "something to that effect."}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:51", "text": ">> The future."}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Um what I gathered was project"}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "looking glass."}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:57", "text": ">> Why did you have to say that?"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:38:57", "text": ">> Am I not allowed to say that?"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:00", "text": ">> Is that is that something?"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:01", "text": ">> No, but you said it. I didn't say it. I"}, {"start": "02:39:00", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "said I said I have no idea what you're"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:07", "text": "talking about. It's what I gathered."}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "And the and and the second thing was"}, {"start": "02:39:07", "end": "02:39:09", "text": "other species,"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:11", "text": ">> correct?"}, {"start": "02:39:09", "end": "02:39:13", "text": ">> Other species of aliens specifically or"}, {"start": "02:39:11", "end": "02:39:14", "text": "or non-human intelligence."}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:17", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "02:39:14", "end": "02:39:21", "text": ">> Um you had said and and I think this is"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "your words, my intelligence handlers."}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:26", "text": ">> Now, of course, I'm poking people out"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:27", "text": "there. Oh, I knew he's CIA."}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:28", "text": ">> Well, they're my adviserss."}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:31", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:33", "text": ">> Helpers. Is Richard Dodie one of those"}, {"start": "02:39:31", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "helpers?"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:36", "text": ">> Well, he's part of the one of the 11."}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:36", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:38", "text": ">> Well, wait a minute."}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:40", "text": ">> Well, I'm asking I'm trying to You're"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:42", "text": "giving I'm trying to give"}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:43", "text": ">> I had seven. It went to nine. I have 11."}, {"start": "02:39:42", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:47", "text": ">> Is Richard Dodie someone I I called for."}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:48", "text": "What does this mean? What does that"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "mean? Richard Dodie,"}, {"start": "02:39:48", "end": "02:39:50", "text": ">> was he the one to tell you not to talk"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:50", "text": "about these things?"}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:52", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely not."}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:53", "text": ">> Okay. That's that's what I want to know."}, {"start": "02:39:52", "end": "02:39:53", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:56", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:58", "text": ">> absolutely not."}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "The person telling you this is one"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:02", "text": "person"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:03", "text": ">> one person and another person."}, {"start": "02:40:02", "end": "02:40:04", "text": ">> So one person said"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:07", "text": ">> up what he said."}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:08", "text": ">> Oh okay. Um is this person active"}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:10", "text": "intelligence? No."}, {"start": "02:40:08", "end": "02:40:11", "text": ">> Okay. So former intelligence"}, {"start": "02:40:10", "end": "02:40:12", "text": ">> correct."}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:13", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:12", "end": "02:40:14", "text": ">> I I think"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:15", "text": ">> which department"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:16", "text": ">> I'm not going to say that."}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:17", "text": ">> Um okay."}, {"start": "02:40:16", "end": "02:40:19", "text": ">> Come on."}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:20", "text": ">> Well I I gota ask anyways. Hey. Can I go"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:23", "text": "ahead? No. Go ahead. I'm not gonna"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:25", "text": "interrupt you. Um,"}, {"start": "02:40:23", "end": "02:40:27", "text": "John Ramirez."}, {"start": "02:40:25", "end": "02:40:28", "text": ">> Don't know. Uh, never spoke with John"}, {"start": "02:40:27", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "Ramirez in my life. I know who he is."}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:30", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:31", "text": ">> Seems like a nice guy. Never spoke to"}, {"start": "02:40:30", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "him in my life."}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:34", "text": ">> Never spoke to him in your life."}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:36", "text": ">> Hand of God."}, {"start": "02:40:34", "end": "02:40:37", "text": ">> I never spoke with John Ramirez ever."}, {"start": "02:40:36", "end": "02:40:37", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:39", "text": ">> Like to."}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:40", "text": ">> All right. Um, John, he's great."}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:41", "text": ">> I'd like to."}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:44", "text": ">> He's very nice. He's very friendly and"}, {"start": "02:40:41", "end": "02:40:45", "text": "very open. Very uh I actually like John"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "a lot. Well, I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "02:40:45", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "something here"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "with talking about the future timelines"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:41:01", "text": ">> that is bringing me into this is my"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "opinion that is bringing me into talking"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:06", "text": "about technology. I am alive today in my"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "opinion without getting melodramatic. I"}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:12", "text": "think I am alive today."}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:16", "text": "um that the stalking has only been with"}, {"start": "02:41:12", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "my phone from the government because I"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:21", "text": "have no idea and have never talked about"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "and never given please listen to me"}, {"start": "02:41:21", "end": "02:41:28", "text": "anything to do with technology. That is"}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:30", "text": "all that the East Coast intelligence"}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "agencies care about at this point."}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:36", "text": ">> Who has technology? Will they give it to"}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "our enemies? Do they know something we"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:42", "text": "don't? And John Stewart has all my"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:43", "text": "emails they must have said this guy is"}, {"start": "02:41:42", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "talking about gray"}, {"start": "02:41:43", "end": "02:41:46", "text": ">> but specifically"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:48", "text": ">> so that is keeping me safe."}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:50", "text": ">> Yeah, but time travel is a concept."}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:51", "text": ">> I didn't say time travel. You did I said"}, {"start": "02:41:50", "end": "02:41:55", "text": "future."}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:57", "text": ">> Okay. Future Looking Glass time travel."}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:41:59", "text": ">> Well, I mean cuz Project Looking Glass"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:01", "text": "was one of the three projects that Bob"}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "Lazar was briefed on. He was briefed on"}, {"start": "02:42:01", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "Looking Glass, uh Sidekick, and Galileo."}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:10", "text": "Sidekick being, you know, weaponizing"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:12", "text": "the technology, Galileo, the propulsion,"}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:16", "text": "and looking glass, the manipulation or"}, {"start": "02:42:12", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "possibly the dilation of time in order"}, {"start": "02:42:16", "end": "02:42:21", "text": "to peer into the future, the past, some"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "other timeline, whatever it is. Now,"}, {"start": "02:42:21", "end": "02:42:25", "text": "what do you know about Looking Glass"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:26", "text": "that they don't want you to talk about?"}, {"start": "02:42:25", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "Or is it they just don't want you to say"}, {"start": "02:42:26", "end": "02:42:28", "text": "the word?"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:30", "text": ">> Are you kidding me?"}, {"start": "02:42:28", "end": "02:42:31", "text": ">> Well, I'm I'm I'm like, do you know"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "anything?"}, {"start": "02:42:31", "end": "02:42:36", "text": ">> No. What? No. Well, then well then why"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "would they be so afraid?"}, {"start": "02:42:36", "end": "02:42:38", "text": ">> I was going to I was going to explain."}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:41", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "02:42:38", "end": "02:42:46", "text": ">> two things. This is my opinion."}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:49", "text": "I think that these little tests"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "um or these little like um requests"}, {"start": "02:42:49", "end": "02:42:55", "text": ">> is more about can this guy keep his"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:55", "text": "mouth shut? Even something innocuous."}, {"start": "02:42:55", "end": "02:42:58", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:42:55", "end": "02:42:59", "text": ">> Even something that maybe"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:01", "text": ">> isn't even a big deal. I don't know if"}, {"start": "02:42:59", "end": "02:43:02", "text": "that program you talked about. I'm just"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "saying."}, {"start": "02:43:02", "end": "02:43:05", "text": ">> Okay. Can John Stewart keep his mouth"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:09", "text": "shut?"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:11", "text": ">> You tweeted it."}, {"start": "02:43:09", "end": "02:43:11", "text": ">> I didn't I didn't tweet that name, did"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "I?"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:15", "text": ">> Well, you pretty much you like bleeped"}, {"start": "02:43:13", "end": "02:43:15", "text": "out a few letters. I mean I mean but I"}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:17", "text": "didn't tweet that name."}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:18", "text": ">> I'm no king of Wheel of Fortune, but I"}, {"start": "02:43:17", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "mean"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:21", "text": ">> um but I've never talked about it at"}, {"start": "02:43:20", "end": "02:43:23", "text": "great length. What I Right."}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:24", "text": ">> You didn't in fact even prior to this"}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:26", "text": "you didn't mention it. Right."}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:28", "text": ">> I was the one to bring it up because I"}, {"start": "02:43:26", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "read the tweet and the tweet is you know"}, {"start": "02:43:28", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "it definitely points to that"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:34", "text": ">> and I remember the day it happened. it"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "was. Don't ever ask about it. And I am"}, {"start": "02:43:34", "end": "02:43:39", "text": "telling you, do not ever bring it up on"}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:42", "text": "any of your podcasts or whatnot. And I"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "don't want you talking about other um"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:47", "text": "species other than the grays. And if you"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "sick stick to the grays, you will be"}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "safe. I can guarantee it. And I have"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:58", "text": "done exactly that. And I find it funny."}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "Yes. I I come off as a very easygoing"}, {"start": "02:43:58", "end": "02:44:04", "text": "funny guy, Italian from Chicago, you"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "know, and and I but I believe that those"}, {"start": "02:44:04", "end": "02:44:10", "text": "who want to leak things and want"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:13", "text": "disclosure and drip drip and find nudge"}, {"start": "02:44:10", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "nicks like me, I believe that there are"}, {"start": "02:44:13", "end": "02:44:18", "text": "certain there that there is a if you"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:21", "text": "mention my name to in certain groups and"}, {"start": "02:44:18", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "intelligence factions of non-retired and"}, {"start": "02:44:21", "end": "02:44:27", "text": "and and current people in intelligence,"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:30", "text": "it is my opinion that it's the good guy."}, {"start": "02:44:27", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "John Stewart, good guy."}, {"start": "02:44:30", "end": "02:44:32", "text": ">> You can trust him."}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:34", "text": ">> What? What?"}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:35", "text": ">> I am trustworthy. Yeah. Tell me"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:37", "text": "something. I'm going to put it in the"}, {"start": "02:44:35", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "vault. I can't believe it cuz I am a I"}, {"start": "02:44:37", "end": "02:44:43", "text": "am a how I kept our You told me not to"}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:45", "text": "bleep talk about me coming on here. How"}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:48", "text": "I kept that. I have but but I've been"}, {"start": "02:44:45", "end": "02:44:51", "text": "I've been I'm I'm I've gotten good at"}, {"start": "02:44:48", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "not saying it. I I appreciate that, you"}, {"start": "02:44:51", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "know, and and I I will pry and feel free"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:58", "text": "to continue to to to not talk about it,"}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "but I I have to ask about"}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:00", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:04", "text": ">> but"}, {"start": "02:45:00", "end": "02:45:06", "text": ">> the idea if someone came to me and said,"}, {"start": "02:45:04", "end": "02:45:08", "text": ">> \"Don't talk about these two things,"}, {"start": "02:45:06", "end": "02:45:11", "text": "right? Don't talk about this one thing."}, {"start": "02:45:08", "end": "02:45:13", "text": "We'll call this project um and then"}, {"start": "02:45:11", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "don't talk about other species other"}, {"start": "02:45:13", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "than the grays and you'll be safe like"}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "this.\""}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:23", "text": ">> Direct quote. So, oh, direct quote."}, {"start": "02:45:19", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "Okay. So, this to me doesn't tell me"}, {"start": "02:45:23", "end": "02:45:27", "text": "that this to me tells me that there"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "there's a narrative forming."}, {"start": "02:45:27", "end": "02:45:31", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:32", "text": ">> And that that they want you to uphold"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:33", "text": "the narrative."}, {"start": "02:45:32", "end": "02:45:34", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:36", "text": ">> And it tells me that and it tells me"}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "that the narrative"}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:39", "text": ">> Are you being handled? Yes. To to some"}, {"start": "02:45:38", "end": "02:45:41", "text": "degree. Of course."}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:44", "text": ">> Well, it tells me that the narrative is"}, {"start": "02:45:41", "end": "02:45:46", "text": "a obviously uh looking glass is"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:52", "text": "important. Sorry. Jesus Christmas."}, {"start": "02:45:46", "end": "02:45:54", "text": ">> All right. Um, and B that"}, {"start": "02:45:52", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "I mean I don't know what to make of the"}, {"start": "02:45:54", "end": "02:46:01", "text": "other one. I I just I just find it"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "whether it's whether it's them trying to"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:05", "text": "create"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "you know this distance between us and"}, {"start": "02:46:05", "end": "02:46:11", "text": "the species"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "uh physically because you know the such"}, {"start": "02:46:11", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "a massive difference. But in reality,"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:18", "text": "you know, does is it because the other"}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:19", "text": "species"}, {"start": "02:46:18", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "are"}, {"start": "02:46:19", "end": "02:46:24", "text": "like us, you know, is it because that's"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:25", "text": "what's happening and that's what they"}, {"start": "02:46:24", "end": "02:46:27", "text": "want to cover? Is like the fact that"}, {"start": "02:46:25", "end": "02:46:29", "text": "they're here, they're like us, they look"}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:31", "text": "like us, they're around, or is it the"}, {"start": "02:46:29", "end": "02:46:33", "text": "fact that they're like bugs and they're"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:35", "text": "they're, you know, strange looking? Like"}, {"start": "02:46:33", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "what's the what do you think is the"}, {"start": "02:46:35", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "reason? Okay, we won't even talk about"}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:41", "text": "the other species. What do you think is"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:44", "text": "the reason for for them not wanting you"}, {"start": "02:46:41", "end": "02:46:44", "text": "to talk about them"}, {"start": "02:46:49", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "and I'll bleep out every looking glass"}, {"start": "02:46:52", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "that I put in this podcast if you like"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "whatever whatever you want to do. I I"}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "believe that um sticking with the grays"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:07", "text": "that it's possible that because they are"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:10", "text": "um potentially a biological android and"}, {"start": "02:47:07", "end": "02:47:12", "text": "maybe not as sentient as we like to"}, {"start": "02:47:10", "end": "02:47:18", "text": "think they are. They're part machine,"}, {"start": "02:47:12", "end": "02:47:21", "text": "part biological makeup that they are um"}, {"start": "02:47:18", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "uh less of a less of a visual and"}, {"start": "02:47:21", "end": "02:47:26", "text": "perceived threat, if that makes sense."}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:28", "text": "You know, it's it's sending out the"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:29", "text": "what's more scary, your Doberman"}, {"start": "02:47:28", "end": "02:47:31", "text": "pincher. I think this I'm I'm coming on"}, {"start": "02:47:29", "end": "02:47:34", "text": "a good analogy here or metaphor. Your"}, {"start": "02:47:31", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "Doberman pincher or your Roomba vacuum"}, {"start": "02:47:34", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "cleaner?"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:38", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:42", "text": ">> I'm just saying the Roomba vacuum"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:43", "text": "cleaner is it's a mechanical piece,"}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:45", "text": ">> right? You're saying you're saying it's"}, {"start": "02:47:43", "end": "02:47:47", "text": "a easier pill to swallow."}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:48", "text": ">> I I believe so. I think I I think that"}, {"start": "02:47:47", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "even"}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:52", "text": ">> Well, that would only be true if the"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:54", "text": "aliens were looked absolutely hideous"}, {"start": "02:47:52", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "like bugs, but not if they look like us,"}, {"start": "02:47:54", "end": "02:47:58", "text": ">> right? I I look I I I'm just simply"}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:00", "text": "telling you what I was instructed to do."}, {"start": "02:47:58", "end": "02:48:01", "text": ">> Were you ever given information on any"}, {"start": "02:48:00", "end": "02:48:05", "text": "other species?"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:05", "text": ">> Oh, that's a good question. Um,"}, {"start": "02:48:05", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "no."}, {"start": "02:48:05", "end": "02:48:07", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:07", "text": ">> And I and I'm telling you that No, I"}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:08", "text": "believe you."}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:10", "text": ">> Yeah. No,"}, {"start": "02:48:08", "end": "02:48:12", "text": ">> I' i've never asked. I I' I've been"}, {"start": "02:48:10", "end": "02:48:14", "text": "Victor, Victor, Victor, alien, alien,"}, {"start": "02:48:12", "end": "02:48:15", "text": "tan, alien, round eyes. you know"}, {"start": "02:48:14", "end": "02:48:16", "text": ">> what's the uh"}, {"start": "02:48:15", "end": "02:48:19", "text": ">> I mean I've heard things about grays"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:22", "text": "other grays and whatnot you know that"}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:24", "text": "some have um um some have sexual"}, {"start": "02:48:22", "end": "02:48:25", "text": "appendages don't"}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:27", "text": ">> some don't um"}, {"start": "02:48:25", "end": "02:48:30", "text": ">> taller shorter"}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:34", "text": ">> right 4 and 1/2 ft to 3 feet wrap around"}, {"start": "02:48:30", "end": "02:48:36", "text": "almond eyes hybrids gray blue light tan"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "um peanut butter"}, {"start": "02:48:36", "end": "02:48:37", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:38", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:41", "text": ">> peanut butter"}, {"start": "02:48:38", "end": "02:48:46", "text": ">> peanut butter color that was Linda how"}, {"start": "02:48:41", "end": "02:48:49", "text": "um uh a dark real real dark ruddy brown."}, {"start": "02:48:46", "end": "02:48:52", "text": "Yeah. Um yeah. So I I've heard a mixture"}, {"start": "02:48:49", "end": "02:48:55", "text": "of uh of of a lot of uh about the grays,"}, {"start": "02:48:52", "end": "02:48:57", "text": ">> but we don't want to talk about Nordics."}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:48:58", "text": "We don't want to talk about Mantis."}, {"start": "02:48:57", "end": "02:48:58", "text": ">> I'm not and I don't know anything about"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:03", "text": ">> So that's so strange to me that like"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:06", "text": "they would Well, Chris, if I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:49:03", "end": "02:49:08", "text": "It's 1975 and I want to expose the pro"}, {"start": "02:49:06", "end": "02:49:11", "text": "wrestling industry as fake and I'm I've"}, {"start": "02:49:08", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "just found this referee that's willing"}, {"start": "02:49:11", "end": "02:49:15", "text": "to do it. I am going to give him test."}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:19", "text": "I'm going to give him pre-qualifiers."}, {"start": "02:49:15", "end": "02:49:22", "text": "I'm going to see if he can follow the"}, {"start": "02:49:19", "end": "02:49:24", "text": "the the the line if he's trustworthy."}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "And can we don't believe it's worked for"}, {"start": "02:49:24", "end": "02:49:30", "text": "me because my intelligence"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:31", "text": ">> my intelligence cohort has added. It is"}, {"start": "02:49:30", "end": "02:49:33", "text": "not diminished"}, {"start": "02:49:31", "end": "02:49:34", "text": ">> despite pissing off some people from the"}, {"start": "02:49:33", "end": "02:49:35", "text": "evil."}, {"start": "02:49:34", "end": "02:49:37", "text": ">> Well, to your knowledge, right?"}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:38", "text": ">> Did I just say that?"}, {"start": "02:49:37", "end": "02:49:41", "text": "I mean just to your knowledge as well,"}, {"start": "02:49:38", "end": "02:49:43", "text": "you don't know, you know, because"}, {"start": "02:49:41", "end": "02:49:45", "text": ">> like obviously,"}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:45", "text": ">> you know, you've ruffled feathers."}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:47", "text": ">> Oh god."}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:51", "text": ">> Maybe even more than ruffled feathers,"}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:53", "text": "but you've caused a stir enough for you"}, {"start": "02:49:51", "end": "02:49:55", "text": "to probably breach that barrier of being"}, {"start": "02:49:53", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "technologically monitored to being"}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:49:58", "text": "infiltrated."}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:00", "text": "You know, like that's how I see it. I"}, {"start": "02:49:58", "end": "02:50:01", "text": "see it as like not only are your phones"}, {"start": "02:50:00", "end": "02:50:03", "text": "and emails tapped at this point, you've"}, {"start": "02:50:01", "end": "02:50:05", "text": "breached a new level where we're going"}, {"start": "02:50:03", "end": "02:50:07", "text": "to send somebody into your life that's"}, {"start": "02:50:05", "end": "02:50:09", "text": "going to befriend you, that's going to"}, {"start": "02:50:07", "end": "02:50:11", "text": "be the nicest person you've ever talked"}, {"start": "02:50:09", "end": "02:50:13", "text": "to, that'll, you know, meet your family"}, {"start": "02:50:11", "end": "02:50:15", "text": "that you'll bring home for Thanksgiving,"}, {"start": "02:50:13", "end": "02:50:17", "text": "and that'll go golfing with, and before"}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:19", "text": "you know it, you know, they've got their"}, {"start": "02:50:17", "end": "02:50:20", "text": "claws in you, they've got their hooks in"}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:21", "text": "you, and now they're telling you what to"}, {"start": "02:50:20", "end": "02:50:23", "text": "say and what not to say. Like, I mean,"}, {"start": "02:50:21", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "that to me would be concerning if that"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:26", "text": "happened to me. I would be I would be"}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:30", "text": "very concerned. But other than the"}, {"start": "02:50:26", "end": "02:50:32", "text": "chairman, he is the um how can I put"}, {"start": "02:50:30", "end": "02:50:35", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "02:50:32", "end": "02:50:36", "text": ">> I'm I'm not going to even say it. I I I"}, {"start": "02:50:35", "end": "02:50:39", "text": "understand what you're saying."}, {"start": "02:50:36", "end": "02:50:42", "text": ">> And so knowing that,"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:43", "text": ">> but like I contacted Dodie. My wife did"}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:44", "text": "actually on Facebook."}, {"start": "02:50:43", "end": "02:50:46", "text": ">> Okay, that's fine. But I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "02:50:44", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "referring to I'm referring to this other"}, {"start": "02:50:46", "end": "02:50:52", "text": "gentleman. I was going to finish my"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:55", "text": ">> most of my intel I have contacted or I"}, {"start": "02:50:52", "end": "02:50:57", "text": "have um asked for that person to contact"}, {"start": "02:50:55", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "me from another person, you know, from"}, {"start": "02:50:57", "end": "02:51:00", "text": "another intel person. So"}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:03", "text": ">> So nobody in your circle has contacted"}, {"start": "02:51:00", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "you out of the blue."}, {"start": "02:51:03", "end": "02:51:04", "text": ">> Well, the chairman did."}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:08", "text": ">> My biggest leaker. But look what he gave"}, {"start": "02:51:06", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "me. He gave me an email from his friend."}, {"start": "02:51:08", "end": "02:51:13", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:15", "text": ">> I agree. Yeah. No, for sure. Um"}, {"start": "02:51:13", "end": "02:51:17", "text": ">> Yeah, it's it's it's Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:19", "text": ">> and his friends his friend wrote his"}, {"start": "02:51:17", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "first name on the bottom and said,"}, {"start": "02:51:19", "end": "02:51:22", "text": "\"Please don't associate my name with"}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "this material.\" Like, like I would tell"}, {"start": "02:51:22", "end": "02:51:26", "text": "you. I'm just saying. So, the chairman"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:28", "text": "is really the only person that has"}, {"start": "02:51:26", "end": "02:51:29", "text": ">> emailed me out of the blue and and what"}, {"start": "02:51:28", "end": "02:51:30", "text": "did he email me? Gold."}, {"start": "02:51:29", "end": "02:51:32", "text": ">> But, um,"}, {"start": "02:51:30", "end": "02:51:34", "text": ">> but I understand what you're saying. I"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:36", "text": ">> It is concerning and and and if somebody"}, {"start": "02:51:34", "end": "02:51:38", "text": "told me what I could and couldn't talk"}, {"start": "02:51:36", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "about, I mean, that would bug the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:51:38", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "out of me."}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:44", "text": ">> I knew it was a I knew it was a test, so"}, {"start": "02:51:42", "end": "02:51:45", "text": "to speak. How could we trust this guy?"}, {"start": "02:51:44", "end": "02:51:47", "text": "So now do you think you've broken that"}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:49", "text": "trust?"}, {"start": "02:51:47", "end": "02:51:51", "text": ">> I didn't say anything about any future"}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:54", "text": "projects or programs or you did."}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:56", "text": ">> So you don't know anything about this?"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:52:00", "text": ">> I I really don't. All I can say is one"}, {"start": "02:51:56", "end": "02:52:00", "text": "thing. I I I I"}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:06", "text": ">> Why? Okay. Well, what kind"}, {"start": "02:52:02", "end": "02:52:08", "text": ">> do you really want the entire world to"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:11", "text": "know how to go into the future to see if"}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:13", "text": "their kid dies at 10 or their their wife"}, {"start": "02:52:11", "end": "02:52:15", "text": "um cheats on them with somebody at work"}, {"start": "02:52:13", "end": "02:52:17", "text": "or um that they're going to get ruined"}, {"start": "02:52:15", "end": "02:52:19", "text": "in this? Do you really want the entire"}, {"start": "02:52:17", "end": "02:52:21", "text": "world to have this technology of looking"}, {"start": "02:52:19", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "into the future? And that's your answer"}, {"start": "02:52:21", "end": "02:52:27", "text": "of why two intelligence assets have kept"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:28", "text": "me completely away from that subject?"}, {"start": "02:52:27", "end": "02:52:30", "text": ">> Is that what they told you?"}, {"start": "02:52:28", "end": "02:52:32", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:33", "text": "Do I want the military-industrial"}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:35", "text": "complex making that decision for me?"}, {"start": "02:52:33", "end": "02:52:38", "text": "That's the other question."}, {"start": "02:52:35", "end": "02:52:41", "text": ">> I think there you look, you're going to"}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "not like this answer. But you you have"}, {"start": "02:52:41", "end": "02:52:44", "text": "no idea what it's like to run the entire"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:46", "text": "world or be president of the United"}, {"start": "02:52:44", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "States. You don't know what it's like to"}, {"start": "02:52:46", "end": "02:52:49", "text": "think for 350 million people. I don't"}, {"start": "02:52:48", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "either."}, {"start": "02:52:49", "end": "02:52:51", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:55", "text": ">> that's that's definitely true. and and"}, {"start": "02:52:51", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "and you know if if um and I think that"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:53:00", "text": "is 90% of this draconian I know you use"}, {"start": "02:52:58", "end": "02:53:01", "text": "that I know I use that word a lot the"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:04", "text": "draconian"}, {"start": "02:53:01", "end": "02:53:08", "text": "um structure that is oppressing this"}, {"start": "02:53:04", "end": "02:53:10", "text": "secret is we don't we cannot let it get"}, {"start": "02:53:08", "end": "02:53:13", "text": "into our enemy's hands because if it"}, {"start": "02:53:10", "end": "02:53:16", "text": "does God God help the fate of the world"}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:19", "text": "we know right now and I'm and and I want"}, {"start": "02:53:16", "end": "02:53:22", "text": "to finish my entire speech with this but"}, {"start": "02:53:19", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "right now the most important important"}, {"start": "02:53:22", "end": "02:53:26", "text": "the most important question and the most"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:29", "text": "important phenomenon in the history of"}, {"start": "02:53:26", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "the world resides in a country that is"}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:33", "text": "run at least part and parcel by"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:35", "text": "democracy right thank God"}, {"start": "02:53:33", "end": "02:53:36", "text": ">> but they are also someone's enemy"}, {"start": "02:53:35", "end": "02:53:37", "text": ">> I understand that"}, {"start": "02:53:36", "end": "02:53:39", "text": ">> you know if I was in another country and"}, {"start": "02:53:37", "end": "02:53:40", "text": "my enemy was America I would also be"}, {"start": "02:53:39", "end": "02:53:42", "text": "saying the same thing do I want America"}, {"start": "02:53:40", "end": "02:53:42", "text": "having this in their hands like who's to"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:44", "text": "say that we're better"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:46", "text": ">> it's a race to the top of the baseball"}, {"start": "02:53:44", "end": "02:53:48", "text": "bat like when we were in grade school"}, {"start": "02:53:46", "end": "02:53:48", "text": ">> yeah it's just it's just um I I I"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "suppose"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:52", "text": ">> and that's how scary the technology must"}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "be that they have that if this gets with"}, {"start": "02:53:52", "end": "02:53:56", "text": "any other country who is nefarious, who"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:53:58", "text": "does not have good intentions or can"}, {"start": "02:53:56", "end": "02:54:01", "text": "rule the world."}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:04", "text": ">> I I agree. I agree fundamentally. I do"}, {"start": "02:54:01", "end": "02:54:09", "text": "agree that there are national security"}, {"start": "02:54:04", "end": "02:54:13", "text": "risks to a lot of this information. Um I"}, {"start": "02:54:09", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "suppose I just want to know if any of it"}, {"start": "02:54:13", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "is real,"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:18", "text": ">> And and that's it, right? I'm not"}, {"start": "02:54:16", "end": "02:54:19", "text": "looking to reverse engineer a time"}, {"start": "02:54:18", "end": "02:54:21", "text": "machine,"}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:24", "text": ">> right? I'm I I'm not that smart and I"}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:27", "text": "and I I don't know anybody who is. But I"}, {"start": "02:54:24", "end": "02:54:31", "text": "do, you know, if if if you're not going"}, {"start": "02:54:27", "end": "02:54:34", "text": "to meet me halfway and be like, \"Here"}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:35", "text": "are the crafts or we have crafts or we"}, {"start": "02:54:34", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "have If you're not going to meet me"}, {"start": "02:54:35", "end": "02:54:40", "text": "halfway, well then we're all just going"}, {"start": "02:54:38", "end": "02:54:41", "text": "to keep digging until we find something"}, {"start": "02:54:40", "end": "02:54:43", "text": "sensitive, right?\""}, {"start": "02:54:41", "end": "02:54:45", "text": ">> And when I tell me this is real or not."}, {"start": "02:54:43", "end": "02:54:46", "text": ">> And when I find something sensitive like"}, {"start": "02:54:45", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "a project name and they're like, \"Don't"}, {"start": "02:54:46", "end": "02:54:49", "text": "talk about that.\" Guess what I'm talking"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:51", "text": "about? I'm talking about the project"}, {"start": "02:54:49", "end": "02:54:53", "text": "name because I want them to at least"}, {"start": "02:54:51", "end": "02:54:54", "text": "acknowledge something. Give us"}, {"start": "02:54:53", "end": "02:54:55", "text": "something. Let us know."}, {"start": "02:54:54", "end": "02:54:57", "text": ">> I understand that they never said none"}, {"start": "02:54:55", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "of my friends can talk about it or"}, {"start": "02:54:57", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "admonish anyone. Me."}, {"start": "02:54:59", "end": "02:55:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:54:59", "end": "02:55:04", "text": ">> John Stewart. Now, is that stay on"}, {"start": "02:55:01", "end": "02:55:06", "text": "mission, stay on point, don't touch"}, {"start": "02:55:04", "end": "02:55:08", "text": "something. Maybe it is something very"}, {"start": "02:55:06", "end": "02:55:11", "text": "delicate."}, {"start": "02:55:08", "end": "02:55:12", "text": ">> What's the What's the end future?"}, {"start": "02:55:11", "end": "02:55:14", "text": ">> What's for you? What's the end game with"}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:17", "text": "with these? The end game is for somebody"}, {"start": "02:55:14", "end": "02:55:19", "text": "in the freaking government or a a former"}, {"start": "02:55:17", "end": "02:55:22", "text": "int uh military person to stand up and"}, {"start": "02:55:19", "end": "02:55:24", "text": "say this this is this doctor this is"}, {"start": "02:55:22", "end": "02:55:26", "text": "this doctor this is the facility was at"}, {"start": "02:55:24", "end": "02:55:28", "text": "this is real I know this is real I know"}, {"start": "02:55:26", "end": "02:55:29", "text": "where this body is and stop laughing at"}, {"start": "02:55:28", "end": "02:55:31", "text": "John Stewart"}, {"start": "02:55:29", "end": "02:55:32", "text": ">> or not laugh but"}, {"start": "02:55:31", "end": "02:55:32", "text": ">> we're going to give John Stewart the"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:34", "text": "truth"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:36", "text": ">> noble and I respect that but if I were"}, {"start": "02:55:34", "end": "02:55:37", "text": "them I would see how long I could keep"}, {"start": "02:55:36", "end": "02:55:37", "text": "stringing you on"}, {"start": "02:55:37", "end": "02:55:39", "text": ">> probably"}, {"start": "02:55:37", "end": "02:55:40", "text": ">> I would just keep drip feeding you"}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:41", "text": "random stuff and keep telling you what"}, {"start": "02:55:40", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "to say what"}, {"start": "02:55:41", "end": "02:55:44", "text": ">> but everything they drip feed me comes"}, {"start": "02:55:42", "end": "02:55:46", "text": "comes to fruition or is get"}, {"start": "02:55:44", "end": "02:55:46", "text": ">> and and that's how that works,"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:47", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:48", "text": ">> And that's how that works."}, {"start": "02:55:47", "end": "02:55:49", "text": ">> Why would I want to"}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:51", "text": ">> because it's to gain trust. Well,"}, {"start": "02:55:49", "end": "02:55:53", "text": "because you're never I don't think I"}, {"start": "02:55:51", "end": "02:55:55", "text": "don't think these people willingly ever"}, {"start": "02:55:53", "end": "02:55:55", "text": "give anything up that's of value. I"}, {"start": "02:55:55", "end": "02:55:56", "text": "think"}, {"start": "02:55:55", "end": "02:55:59", "text": ">> you may be right."}, {"start": "02:55:56", "end": "02:56:01", "text": ">> I think you're you know when you're when"}, {"start": "02:55:59", "end": "02:56:03", "text": "you're playing with these with these"}, {"start": "02:56:01", "end": "02:56:05", "text": "people, they are also just taking"}, {"start": "02:56:03", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "orders. There's also like a there's"}, {"start": "02:56:05", "end": "02:56:08", "text": "probably a case file on you right now"}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:10", "text": "like with you know what what to give you"}, {"start": "02:56:08", "end": "02:56:13", "text": "next and what to you know and and that"}, {"start": "02:56:10", "end": "02:56:14", "text": "would bug me. But I guess if you have no"}, {"start": "02:56:13", "end": "02:56:15", "text": "other choice because where else are we"}, {"start": "02:56:14", "end": "02:56:18", "text": "going to get this info?"}, {"start": "02:56:15", "end": "02:56:20", "text": ">> Could it be 11 intelligence former"}, {"start": "02:56:18", "end": "02:56:23", "text": "operatives and contractors that want"}, {"start": "02:56:20", "end": "02:56:24", "text": "disclosure and are very careful about"}, {"start": "02:56:23", "end": "02:56:25", "text": "what they tell me? Is that can't that be"}, {"start": "02:56:24", "end": "02:56:27", "text": "the name of the"}, {"start": "02:56:25", "end": "02:56:29", "text": ">> possibly? Possibly. For sure. You know,"}, {"start": "02:56:27", "end": "02:56:32", "text": "definitely. But they are intelligence"}, {"start": "02:56:29", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "agencies. You know, they are smart."}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:34", "text": ">> They do. And yeah, it's uh"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:36", "text": ">> they have a lot of power."}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:37", "text": ">> You're right. And they they can be very"}, {"start": "02:56:36", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "protective."}, {"start": "02:56:37", "end": "02:56:40", "text": ">> Yeah. I suppose."}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:41", "text": ">> And that bothers me because that, you"}, {"start": "02:56:40", "end": "02:56:46", "text": "know, that"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:50", "text": ">> is uh is a um an obfuscation brought on"}, {"start": "02:56:46", "end": "02:56:53", "text": "by, you know, my my due diligence and"}, {"start": "02:56:50", "end": "02:56:56", "text": "my, you know, my uh my honoring my"}, {"start": "02:56:53", "end": "02:56:57", "text": "security and well then you should have"}, {"start": "02:56:56", "end": "02:56:58", "text": "never called me in the first place. You"}, {"start": "02:56:57", "end": "02:56:58", "text": "know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:56:59", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I agree."}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:57:01", "text": ">> I should have never picked up the phone"}, {"start": "02:56:59", "end": "02:57:04", "text": "when I would or never returned my email."}, {"start": "02:57:01", "end": "02:57:07", "text": "You know, go away, kid. That's the murky"}, {"start": "02:57:04", "end": "02:57:09", "text": "water of the UFO scape anyways is like"}, {"start": "02:57:07", "end": "02:57:11", "text": ">> you know on one side the argument can be"}, {"start": "02:57:09", "end": "02:57:13", "text": "made oh it's all this but the equal and"}, {"start": "02:57:11", "end": "02:57:15", "text": "opposite argument exists as well"}, {"start": "02:57:13", "end": "02:57:16", "text": "constantly and that in somewhere in"}, {"start": "02:57:15", "end": "02:57:18", "text": "between lies a scop and like"}, {"start": "02:57:16", "end": "02:57:21", "text": ">> I mean you got a guy like John Leer"}, {"start": "02:57:18", "end": "02:57:24", "text": "saying oh they put that into John"}, {"start": "02:57:21", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "Stewart's head in 2019 start researching"}, {"start": "02:57:24", "end": "02:57:28", "text": "this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:57:25", "end": "02:57:30", "text": ">> I'm a type a alpha male you know I I"}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:32", "text": "want to hunt I want to aggressive and"}, {"start": "02:57:30", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "this this thing bo this film bothered me"}, {"start": "02:57:32", "end": "02:57:37", "text": "and I did this on my own. There wasn't"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:39", "text": "any intelligence person. Um and and you"}, {"start": "02:57:37", "end": "02:57:40", "text": "got Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot"}, {"start": "02:57:39", "end": "02:57:42", "text": "that'll tell anybody that'll listen to"}, {"start": "02:57:40", "end": "02:57:46", "text": "her, they chose John Stewart. That was"}, {"start": "02:57:42", "end": "02:57:47", "text": "told to me on a podcast. They chose you."}, {"start": "02:57:46", "end": "02:57:47", "text": "I I don't believe that."}, {"start": "02:57:47", "end": "02:57:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:57:47", "end": "02:57:50", "text": ">> I don't believe that for one second. I"}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "think they went, \"Oh, I remember Dod's"}, {"start": "02:57:50", "end": "02:57:54", "text": "first email back to me."}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:57", "text": ">> You're investigating the alien"}, {"start": "02:57:54", "end": "02:57:59", "text": "interview. You are on a very interesting"}, {"start": "02:57:57", "end": "02:58:01", "text": "endeavor.\" He must have [ __ ] in his"}, {"start": "02:57:59", "end": "02:58:02", "text": "pants when he saw after 30 years"}, {"start": "02:58:01", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "somebody was going to start"}, {"start": "02:58:02", "end": "02:58:07", "text": "investigating this interview and not"}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:10", "text": "crap in his pants scared like like oh"}, {"start": "02:58:07", "end": "02:58:11", "text": "this is wow"}, {"start": "02:58:10", "end": "02:58:12", "text": ">> that like somebody coming to me Mr."}, {"start": "02:58:11", "end": "02:58:15", "text": "short. I want to investigate the"}, {"start": "02:58:12", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "possible murder of that female wrestler"}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "back in ' 62. And like I'd be like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:21", "text": "interesting.\""}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:22", "text": ">> If somebody came to you right now and be"}, {"start": "02:58:21", "end": "02:58:24", "text": "honest here,"}, {"start": "02:58:22", "end": "02:58:25", "text": ">> oh, I don't like the way this question."}, {"start": "02:58:24", "end": "02:58:27", "text": ">> Well, if they came to you right now and"}, {"start": "02:58:25", "end": "02:58:30", "text": "said, \"Listen,"}, {"start": "02:58:27", "end": "02:58:32", "text": ">> I'll I'll I'll tell you everything,"}, {"start": "02:58:30", "end": "02:58:34", "text": "but you just got to keep playing ball"}, {"start": "02:58:32", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "and keep pretending and keep doing and"}, {"start": "02:58:34", "end": "02:58:37", "text": "keep we're going to tell you what to"}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:38", "text": "say, but I'll I'll I'll feed everything"}, {"start": "02:58:37", "end": "02:58:41", "text": "to you. everything you've ever wanted to"}, {"start": "02:58:38", "end": "02:58:43", "text": "know about this program. But you got to"}, {"start": "02:58:41", "end": "02:58:43", "text": "we got to send you on a wild goose chase"}, {"start": "02:58:43", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "publicly."}, {"start": "02:58:43", "end": "02:58:49", "text": ">> Do I have to lie publicly?"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:50", "text": ">> You'll have to cut No, not lie. Omit."}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:50", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "02:58:50", "end": "02:58:51", "text": ">> you would."}, {"start": "02:58:50", "end": "02:58:52", "text": ">> I would take that deal."}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:55", "text": ">> You would take that deal?"}, {"start": "02:58:52", "end": "02:58:55", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:58:55", "end": "02:59:00", "text": ">> Until I know mankind or my fellow my"}, {"start": "02:58:58", "end": "02:59:01", "text": "neighbors were were in danger. Correct."}, {"start": "02:59:00", "end": "02:59:03", "text": "M"}, {"start": "02:59:01", "end": "02:59:04", "text": ">> that that is my that is my"}, {"start": "02:59:03", "end": "02:59:06", "text": ">> I appreciate the honest answer there"}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:07", "text": "because I think a lot of people would"}, {"start": "02:59:06", "end": "02:59:08", "text": "have lied to that answer."}, {"start": "02:59:07", "end": "02:59:10", "text": ">> You know it's the Tommy Lee Jones and"}, {"start": "02:59:08", "end": "02:59:12", "text": "Space Cowboys. You'd leave me down there"}, {"start": "02:59:10", "end": "02:59:13", "text": "and go to space. Hell yeah I would. You"}, {"start": "02:59:12", "end": "02:59:14", "text": "know"}, {"start": "02:59:13", "end": "02:59:16", "text": ">> I would uh I would walk"}, {"start": "02:59:14", "end": "02:59:17", "text": ">> to find the truth who Victor is."}, {"start": "02:59:16", "end": "02:59:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:59:17", "end": "02:59:20", "text": ">> God that would be a tough choice though"}, {"start": "02:59:18", "end": "02:59:21", "text": "to cuz like that would eat at you, you"}, {"start": "02:59:20", "end": "02:59:22", "text": "know. And I'm sure it"}, {"start": "02:59:21", "end": "02:59:23", "text": ">> don't harm my neighbors or my wife or"}, {"start": "02:59:22", "end": "02:59:24", "text": "kids."}, {"start": "02:59:23", "end": "02:59:25", "text": ">> But it eats at a lot of people."}, {"start": "02:59:24", "end": "02:59:26", "text": ">> I know it does."}, {"start": "02:59:25", "end": "02:59:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:59:26", "end": "02:59:29", "text": ">> But I'm the one investigating. I'm the"}, {"start": "02:59:27", "end": "02:59:32", "text": "one that spent $30,000. I'm the one"}, {"start": "02:59:29", "end": "02:59:36", "text": "taking the heat. I can find the truth"}, {"start": "02:59:32", "end": "02:59:38", "text": "and and and and and the deal is go out"}, {"start": "02:59:36", "end": "02:59:40", "text": "there as a blabberine. You know, the"}, {"start": "02:59:38", "end": "02:59:41", "text": "buffoon, you know, you don't think I"}, {"start": "02:59:40", "end": "02:59:45", "text": "could leak stuff"}, {"start": "02:59:41", "end": "02:59:46", "text": ">> behind them maybe or in in speech or I"}, {"start": "02:59:45", "end": "02:59:47", "text": "could figure something out. And if I"}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:49", "text": "could, I could have, but yeah, I would"}, {"start": "02:59:47", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "take that deal. I'm sorry."}, {"start": "02:59:49", "end": "02:59:51", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:53", "text": ">> there's there's no one behind me writing"}, {"start": "02:59:51", "end": "02:59:55", "text": "a check to cover my losses."}, {"start": "02:59:53", "end": "02:59:57", "text": ">> That's right. I appreciate the honest"}, {"start": "02:59:55", "end": "02:59:59", "text": "answer. I really do. Thank you."}, {"start": "02:59:57", "end": "03:00:01", "text": ">> I came here to be honest. Um, do you"}, {"start": "02:59:59", "end": "03:00:02", "text": "want to answer some audience questions?"}, {"start": "03:00:01", "end": "03:00:03", "text": ">> Oh god. Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "03:00:02", "end": "03:00:05", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "03:00:03", "end": "03:00:08", "text": ">> Is it true you hit Sergeant Slaughter"}, {"start": "03:00:05", "end": "03:00:12", "text": "over the head with a chair and nine?"}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:16", "text": "This is about aliens. What the hell is"}, {"start": "03:00:12", "end": "03:00:20", "text": "Why has this video"}, {"start": "03:00:16", "end": "03:00:22", "text": "been allowed to spread publicly uh when"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:24", "text": "so many less compelling ones have been"}, {"start": "03:00:22", "end": "03:00:26", "text": "squashed by Mo?"}, {"start": "03:00:24", "end": "03:00:28", "text": ">> Because I think I think that there"}, {"start": "03:00:26", "end": "03:00:31", "text": "there's two answers to that. One of them"}, {"start": "03:00:28", "end": "03:00:35", "text": "them is when this if this was re if this"}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:36", "text": "is real when this came out I think the"}, {"start": "03:00:35", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "government"}, {"start": "03:00:36", "end": "03:00:41", "text": "their sphincter probably was you could"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "make a diamond out of a lump of coal and"}, {"start": "03:00:41", "end": "03:00:47", "text": "I think and I"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:51", "text": "with on good foundation that they just"}, {"start": "03:00:47", "end": "03:00:53", "text": "said we are we are up shitz creek let's"}, {"start": "03:00:51", "end": "03:00:56", "text": "see what happens let's see where this"}, {"start": "03:00:53", "end": "03:00:59", "text": "goes at the very least we'll see what"}, {"start": "03:00:56", "end": "03:01:02", "text": "the how The public reacts to it. Well,"}, {"start": "03:00:59", "end": "03:01:05", "text": "why do I think the government knows who"}, {"start": "03:01:02", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "Victor is? Absolutely. Why didn't they"}, {"start": "03:01:05", "end": "03:01:10", "text": "prosecute Victor? It's called discovery."}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:11", "text": "You want the government to prosecute"}, {"start": "03:01:10", "end": "03:01:11", "text": "Victor?"}, {"start": "03:01:11", "end": "03:01:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:01:11", "end": "03:01:13", "text": ">> About the alien film. Then all of a"}, {"start": "03:01:13", "end": "03:01:15", "text": "sudden,"}, {"start": "03:01:13", "end": "03:01:17", "text": ">> I thought it's fake. Why are you"}, {"start": "03:01:15", "end": "03:01:20", "text": "prosecuting about 3 feet of, you know,"}, {"start": "03:01:17", "end": "03:01:22", "text": "16 feet of cellophane film? It's fake."}, {"start": "03:01:20", "end": "03:01:23", "text": "Oh, you're prosecuting him because it's"}, {"start": "03:01:22", "end": "03:01:26", "text": "not fake. Mhm."}, {"start": "03:01:23", "end": "03:01:28", "text": ">> So, there was a real catch 22 that the"}, {"start": "03:01:26", "end": "03:01:31", "text": "government is still in with this film."}, {"start": "03:01:28", "end": "03:01:32", "text": ">> And I think I play an important part of"}, {"start": "03:01:31", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "bringing the government out. I coined"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "this phrase myself, bringing the"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "government out of the closet. Let this"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:37", "text": "guy"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:01:37", "end": "03:01:41", "text": ">> go through the whole maturations and"}, {"start": "03:01:39", "end": "03:01:44", "text": "he'll eventually, you know, find"}, {"start": "03:01:41", "end": "03:01:47", "text": "Victor's Cub Scout pack and a neighbor"}, {"start": "03:01:44", "end": "03:01:49", "text": "and and and we're out of it. And maybe"}, {"start": "03:01:47", "end": "03:01:52", "text": "we can go, well, he's a crazy car dealer"}, {"start": "03:01:49", "end": "03:01:54", "text": "wrestler, but yeah, he did a good job."}, {"start": "03:01:52", "end": "03:01:55", "text": "and you know and and it diminishes it."}, {"start": "03:01:54", "end": "03:01:56", "text": ">> Do you know who Victor is?"}, {"start": "03:01:55", "end": "03:01:56", "text": ">> I do."}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:01:58", "text": ">> You've met him?"}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:01:58", "text": ">> I know. No, no, no."}, {"start": "03:01:58", "end": "03:02:00", "text": ">> You spoke to him?"}, {"start": "03:01:58", "end": "03:02:01", "text": ">> I just I just know his name and I have"}, {"start": "03:02:00", "end": "03:02:03", "text": "his face."}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:05", "text": ">> You have his name and face. How is that?"}, {"start": "03:02:03", "end": "03:02:06", "text": "Was that just through your investigation"}, {"start": "03:02:05", "end": "03:02:08", "text": "or was that given to you?"}, {"start": "03:02:06", "end": "03:02:10", "text": ">> No. The director of the both"}, {"start": "03:02:08", "end": "03:02:12", "text": "documentaries, Jeff Broadcreet, who does"}, {"start": "03:02:10", "end": "03:02:13", "text": "not care about aliens or anything."}, {"start": "03:02:12", "end": "03:02:15", "text": ">> Didn't he do follow-up documentaries"}, {"start": "03:02:13", "end": "03:02:17", "text": "about aliens?"}, {"start": "03:02:15", "end": "03:02:20", "text": ">> Um, he might have done one or he was a"}, {"start": "03:02:17", "end": "03:02:21", "text": "guest. I was um um a guest on what one"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:23", "text": "like some"}, {"start": "03:02:21", "end": "03:02:24", "text": ">> Oh, it was like a guest on. Okay."}, {"start": "03:02:23", "end": "03:02:28", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "03:02:24", "end": "03:02:31", "text": "he gave me uh for $500 I got the first"}, {"start": "03:02:28", "end": "03:02:34", "text": "name Stanton, which I thought was Stan."}, {"start": "03:02:31", "end": "03:02:37", "text": "That's why I thought it was Standale cuz"}, {"start": "03:02:34", "end": "03:02:39", "text": "he looks just like Victor. Victor looks"}, {"start": "03:02:37", "end": "03:02:42", "text": "identical to Stanale, the old"}, {"start": "03:02:39", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "eupfologist."}, {"start": "03:02:42", "end": "03:02:49", "text": "But it's not Standale."}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:50", "text": ">> Huh? What was that? Look,"}, {"start": "03:02:49", "end": "03:02:51", "text": ">> he's got the same name."}, {"start": "03:02:50", "end": "03:02:53", "text": ">> Well, I've gotta look for a guy that"}, {"start": "03:02:51", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "looks like Stan Dale but and but is a"}, {"start": "03:02:53", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "jerk like Bill Moore that speaks French."}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:02:57", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:03:00", "text": ">> speaks French."}, {"start": "03:02:57", "end": "03:03:02", "text": ">> This my Yeah, he spoke French in the 208"}, {"start": "03:03:00", "end": "03:03:05", "text": "documentary. Talked the Deluge of the"}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:07", "text": "Solar and talked about Sardo and Cicero"}, {"start": "03:03:05", "end": "03:03:11", "text": "and quoting philosophers and"}, {"start": "03:03:07", "end": "03:03:13", "text": ">> and the Zultine calendar and and so um"}, {"start": "03:03:11", "end": "03:03:15", "text": "so Jeff said, \"I will give you the full"}, {"start": "03:03:13", "end": "03:03:18", "text": "name. I will give you the two cities"}, {"start": "03:03:15", "end": "03:03:21", "text": "that we took picked him up at for the"}, {"start": "03:03:18", "end": "03:03:25", "text": "documentaries for $5,000."}, {"start": "03:03:21", "end": "03:03:27", "text": ">> What? What a gatekeep for this guy."}, {"start": "03:03:25", "end": "03:03:29", "text": ">> So my wife's like, \"You've already spent"}, {"start": "03:03:27", "end": "03:03:31", "text": "$27,000."}, {"start": "03:03:29", "end": "03:03:34", "text": "You're not writing him a check.\" The"}, {"start": "03:03:31", "end": "03:03:37", "text": "angel of angels came through. His name"}, {"start": "03:03:34", "end": "03:03:41", "text": "is Brian Pemble. He's a UFO researcher."}, {"start": "03:03:37", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "He's on X from Tucson, Arizona. Um and"}, {"start": "03:03:41", "end": "03:03:46", "text": "he said, \"I I will cover half. I want to"}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:47", "text": "know who Victor is. I I was I like tears"}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:50", "text": "of my eyes. I was like, you are really"}, {"start": "03:03:47", "end": "03:03:52", "text": "going to help me do this. So, we PayPal"}, {"start": "03:03:50", "end": "03:03:55", "text": "Jeff I put this on on Clint Walden's"}, {"start": "03:03:52", "end": "03:03:57", "text": "night shift. I put the PayPal that we"}, {"start": "03:03:55", "end": "03:03:59", "text": "sent um Jeff Broad Street. I actually"}, {"start": "03:03:57", "end": "03:04:02", "text": "think it was 4200."}, {"start": "03:03:59", "end": "03:04:04", "text": ">> And Broad Street like Victor, Mr."}, {"start": "03:04:02", "end": "03:04:05", "text": "Pendactic said, \"Well, I want the fee"}, {"start": "03:04:04", "end": "03:04:07", "text": "that PayPal is going to charge me.\" So,"}, {"start": "03:04:05", "end": "03:04:09", "text": "we had to give him like another 15%. I'm"}, {"start": "03:04:07", "end": "03:04:11", "text": "like, \"Are you a Victor?\""}, {"start": "03:04:09", "end": "03:04:15", "text": ">> And um so, we get it. So, we are waiting"}, {"start": "03:04:11", "end": "03:04:17", "text": "for the email. Victor's name um that"}, {"start": "03:04:15", "end": "03:04:19", "text": "Jeff Broadreet said. Jeff Broadstreet"}, {"start": "03:04:17", "end": "03:04:22", "text": "was shown a tattered social security"}, {"start": "03:04:19", "end": "03:04:24", "text": "card with the prefix 262, which is a"}, {"start": "03:04:22", "end": "03:04:27", "text": "Florida birth from Victor, not his"}, {"start": "03:04:24", "end": "03:04:30", "text": "driver's license. Victor never took off"}, {"start": "03:04:27", "end": "03:04:34", "text": "his sunglasses. Interesting."}, {"start": "03:04:30", "end": "03:04:36", "text": "Um was a guy by the name of Stanton John"}, {"start": "03:04:34", "end": "03:04:38", "text": "Willlet."}, {"start": "03:04:36", "end": "03:04:41", "text": "So we go to the computer. There is a"}, {"start": "03:04:38", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "John Stanton Willlet who died in October"}, {"start": "03:04:41", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "of last year who lived 10 miles from me."}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:48", "text": "Well, of course, this is John Stewart"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:52", "text": ">> and Jeff Brdy. Now, this is when we go"}, {"start": "03:04:48", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "back to deception detective work."}, {"start": "03:04:52", "end": "03:04:58", "text": ">> Jeff said, \"I did look at his social"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:05:02", "text": "security card. It wasn't John. I am"}, {"start": "03:04:58", "end": "03:05:04", "text": "positive. Stanton John Willlet.\" So, we"}, {"start": "03:05:02", "end": "03:05:07", "text": "spent $600 with a private detective at"}, {"start": "03:05:04", "end": "03:05:09", "text": "Chicago. She's like, \"There is no one.\""}, {"start": "03:05:07", "end": "03:05:12", "text": "Now, think about this."}, {"start": "03:05:09", "end": "03:05:14", "text": ">> Jeff Broadreet was given a name that has"}, {"start": "03:05:12", "end": "03:05:16", "text": "never been born in America, right,"}, {"start": "03:05:14", "end": "03:05:17", "text": ">> since 1650,"}, {"start": "03:05:16", "end": "03:05:19", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "03:05:17", "end": "03:05:21", "text": ">> Isn't that a little weird? Isn't that a"}, {"start": "03:05:19", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "little intelly that you have come up"}, {"start": "03:05:21", "end": "03:05:27", "text": "with a name that is nowhere? So now I"}, {"start": "03:05:25", "end": "03:05:30", "text": "don't want to say how because I don't"}, {"start": "03:05:27", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "want to get arrested, but the same"}, {"start": "03:05:30", "end": "03:05:36", "text": "methodology we used to see Bob Lazar on"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:38", "text": "the EG&NG entry log. This is an entry"}, {"start": "03:05:36", "end": "03:05:42", "text": "log into Groom Lake in the Nellis test"}, {"start": "03:05:38", "end": "03:05:44", "text": "and training range kept kept by EGNG"}, {"start": "03:05:42", "end": "03:05:46", "text": "with Bob Lazar's names on it for 92"}, {"start": "03:05:44", "end": "03:05:49", "text": "days."}, {"start": "03:05:46", "end": "03:05:50", "text": "John Stanton Willlet's name was on it."}, {"start": "03:05:49", "end": "03:05:52", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "03:05:50", "end": "03:05:56", "text": ">> Working for EG&G."}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:59", "text": "Now I've um now I have produced another"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "log line from this book when we thought"}, {"start": "03:05:59", "end": "03:06:05", "text": "when we got the first name Stanton I"}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:08", "text": "found a Stanton how who was a scientist"}, {"start": "03:06:05", "end": "03:06:11", "text": "um and and worked out at Area 51. I'm"}, {"start": "03:06:08", "end": "03:06:12", "text": "like, \"This is Victor.\" And we called"}, {"start": "03:06:11", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "his family. His son's like, \"Stop"}, {"start": "03:06:12", "end": "03:06:17", "text": "calling me. You're crazy.\" And click."}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:21", "text": "And that wasn't Victor. But I got his"}, {"start": "03:06:17", "end": "03:06:24", "text": "log line. And it's last name, a line."}, {"start": "03:06:21", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "This is what the Groom Lake log. I am"}, {"start": "03:06:24", "end": "03:06:28", "text": "the only person that has ever brought"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "out a document from Area 51. And I'm"}, {"start": "03:06:28", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "proud to say that it was how a line"}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:39", "text": "Stanton I think J his middle initial"}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "whether he was a civilian or military"}, {"start": "03:06:39", "end": "03:06:45", "text": "CIV or or um MIL whether he was a"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "resident staying over on the base or"}, {"start": "03:06:45", "end": "03:06:53", "text": "not. The time duration of he was allowed"}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:56", "text": "on the base like a June of 82 to July of"}, {"start": "03:06:53", "end": "03:07:01", "text": "84 usually is twoear stints. same thing"}, {"start": "03:06:56", "end": "03:07:03", "text": "Bob Lazard, the same lineage Bob um had"}, {"start": "03:07:01", "end": "03:07:08", "text": "um and"}, {"start": "03:07:03", "end": "03:07:12", "text": "um and um Stanton and and Woody worked"}, {"start": "03:07:08", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "for and and Stanton How the fake Victor"}, {"start": "03:07:12", "end": "03:07:16", "text": "was Lockheed. Now people have told me"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:19", "text": "that because I've had seven people I've"}, {"start": "03:07:16", "end": "03:07:21", "text": "interviewed that were on Area 51. They"}, {"start": "03:07:19", "end": "03:07:23", "text": "said at times you could work for Chris"}, {"start": "03:07:21", "end": "03:07:26", "text": "Ramsey Dynamics,"}, {"start": "03:07:23", "end": "03:07:28", "text": ">> but Lockheed will get you entry onto the"}, {"start": "03:07:26", "end": "03:07:30", "text": "base. Yeah. If I'm grabbing you from"}, {"start": "03:07:28", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "Chris Ramsey Dynamics Electronics"}, {"start": "03:07:30", "end": "03:07:34", "text": "Company to help us on a radar"}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:36", "text": "application. Sure."}, {"start": "03:07:34", "end": "03:07:37", "text": ">> Lockheed will will be your um"}, {"start": "03:07:36", "end": "03:07:39", "text": ">> contractor"}, {"start": "03:07:37", "end": "03:07:41", "text": ">> contractor which I thought was"}, {"start": "03:07:39", "end": "03:07:43", "text": "interesting little tidbit there."}, {"start": "03:07:41", "end": "03:07:47", "text": ">> And and Stanton John Willlet worked for"}, {"start": "03:07:43", "end": "03:07:50", "text": "EG&G. Again, we go to GG&G, we find out"}, {"start": "03:07:47", "end": "03:07:52", "text": "that they did high ti high tie top"}, {"start": "03:07:50", "end": "03:07:55", "text": "secret audiovisisual documentation for"}, {"start": "03:07:52", "end": "03:07:55", "text": ">> they also hired the pilots at Janet"}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:58", "text": "Airlines"}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:59", "text": ">> and and the Wacken. Yep."}, {"start": "03:07:58", "end": "03:08:00", "text": ">> They hired them."}, {"start": "03:07:59", "end": "03:08:01", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "03:08:00", "end": "03:08:03", "text": ">> Very"}, {"start": "03:08:01", "end": "03:08:04", "text": ">> Yeah, they were they were everywhere"}, {"start": "03:08:03", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "there. They were the ones who built the"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "whole thing."}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:07", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:10", "text": ">> cool."}, {"start": "03:08:07", "end": "03:08:11", "text": ">> So, um Stanton John Willlet is nowhere."}, {"start": "03:08:10", "end": "03:08:14", "text": "What we'd like to do"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:16", "text": ">> except on a log at Area 51. Correct. Now"}, {"start": "03:08:14", "end": "03:08:18", "text": "I get a"}, {"start": "03:08:16", "end": "03:08:22", "text": "one of my intel people hooks me up with"}, {"start": "03:08:18", "end": "03:08:25", "text": "a This is It's too Tom Clancy. Forget"}, {"start": "03:08:22", "end": "03:08:28", "text": "it. It's it's it's"}, {"start": "03:08:25", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "um All I can say is this is that we are"}, {"start": "03:08:28", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "I have been told that Stanton John"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:38", "text": "Willlet was a Intel name identity given"}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:40", "text": "to him by an intelligence three-letter."}, {"start": "03:08:38", "end": "03:08:42", "text": ">> Okay. It was a pseudonym."}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:44", "text": ">> Correct. And that's like I told you"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:46", "text": "earlier, you can only get on Area 51"}, {"start": "03:08:44", "end": "03:08:48", "text": "with your real name or an approved"}, {"start": "03:08:46", "end": "03:08:51", "text": "official gnome dlume from an"}, {"start": "03:08:48", "end": "03:08:53", "text": "intelligence agency. We believe Stanton"}, {"start": "03:08:51", "end": "03:08:55", "text": "John Willlet is not his real name. And"}, {"start": "03:08:53", "end": "03:08:59", "text": "I've been told by various sources, look"}, {"start": "03:08:55", "end": "03:09:01", "text": "for a Stanton somewhere that or a victor"}, {"start": "03:08:59", "end": "03:09:04", "text": "or something or a variation. They often"}, {"start": "03:09:01", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "times will use the real first name of"}, {"start": "03:09:04", "end": "03:09:07", "text": "someone"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:10", "text": ">> to so it's not so detached from their"}, {"start": "03:09:07", "end": "03:09:11", "text": "real identity. Yeah. whether that's true"}, {"start": "03:09:10", "end": "03:09:15", "text": "or not. Correct."}, {"start": "03:09:11", "end": "03:09:18", "text": ">> So we were all then the director told us"}, {"start": "03:09:15", "end": "03:09:21", "text": "in 96 Victor flew in from Arizona and"}, {"start": "03:09:18", "end": "03:09:24", "text": "this is amazing. In n in 2008 we picked"}, {"start": "03:09:21", "end": "03:09:28", "text": "Victor up at a residence in Rancho"}, {"start": "03:09:24", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "Cucamonga, California. The former FBI"}, {"start": "03:09:28", "end": "03:09:33", "text": "agent, private detective in Chicago"}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:36", "text": "said, \"I heard Victor say, \"Man,"}, {"start": "03:09:33", "end": "03:09:39", "text": "man, it's called California English.\""}, {"start": "03:09:36", "end": "03:09:42", "text": "And this guy thinks that Victor"}, {"start": "03:09:39", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "like, \"All right, man.\""}, {"start": "03:09:42", "end": "03:09:45", "text": ">> The FBI guy told me this and I went back"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:48", "text": "and I heard it and he does say it. He"}, {"start": "03:09:45", "end": "03:09:50", "text": "says, \"I think Victor spent a lot of"}, {"start": "03:09:48", "end": "03:09:53", "text": "time in California.\" Sure enough, Chad"}, {"start": "03:09:50", "end": "03:09:55", "text": "Broad Street says, \"Southern California,"}, {"start": "03:09:53", "end": "03:09:57", "text": ">> what we would like to do.\" Now, somebody"}, {"start": "03:09:55", "end": "03:09:59", "text": "on Reddit, another internet angel, Mr."}, {"start": "03:09:57", "end": "03:10:01", "text": "Stewart, do you know they lighten"}, {"start": "03:09:59", "end": "03:10:03", "text": "Victor's face? You can see what he looks"}, {"start": "03:10:01", "end": "03:10:04", "text": "like. And I went on to Reddit and he"}, {"start": "03:10:03", "end": "03:10:08", "text": "looks like Stan Dale with the beard, the"}, {"start": "03:10:04", "end": "03:10:10", "text": "goatee, the fake hair."}, {"start": "03:10:08", "end": "03:10:12", "text": "We would like to take this photo, give"}, {"start": "03:10:10", "end": "03:10:16", "text": "it to the the the city manager because"}, {"start": "03:10:12", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "Rancho Cukamonga does not have a mayor"}, {"start": "03:10:16", "end": "03:10:20", "text": "and give it to the city manager to tell"}, {"start": "03:10:18", "end": "03:10:22", "text": "the newspaper in Rancho Cook, could you"}, {"start": "03:10:20", "end": "03:10:24", "text": "help this guy? This is an interesting"}, {"start": "03:10:22", "end": "03:10:27", "text": "story. We've got a huge whistleblower"}, {"start": "03:10:24", "end": "03:10:30", "text": "allegedly from ranch our area. Here's"}, {"start": "03:10:27", "end": "03:10:32", "text": "his name and face. Can what can somebody"}, {"start": "03:10:30", "end": "03:10:33", "text": "from his cub scout pack his high school"}, {"start": "03:10:32", "end": "03:10:36", "text": "sure because I don't believe the"}, {"start": "03:10:33", "end": "03:10:38", "text": "government can can it's called sheep"}, {"start": "03:10:36", "end": "03:10:40", "text": "dipping. I don't believe the government"}, {"start": "03:10:38", "end": "03:10:42", "text": "can sheep dip your neighbors your cub"}, {"start": "03:10:40", "end": "03:10:44", "text": "scout group members and they can do it"}, {"start": "03:10:42", "end": "03:10:45", "text": "if they given you a fake name. You'll"}, {"start": "03:10:44", "end": "03:10:47", "text": "never find that. But if his name is"}, {"start": "03:10:45", "end": "03:10:48", "text": "Stanton and Johnson"}, {"start": "03:10:47", "end": "03:10:50", "text": ">> and he looks like that"}, {"start": "03:10:48", "end": "03:10:52", "text": ">> looks like that. We've got our man. So"}, {"start": "03:10:50", "end": "03:10:54", "text": "that that is our next"}, {"start": "03:10:52", "end": "03:10:56", "text": ">> cool um our next uh avenue with Victor."}, {"start": "03:10:54", "end": "03:10:57", "text": "Sorry I didn't mean to go off on a No."}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "Yeah, it's very interesting. Please keep"}, {"start": "03:10:57", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "us posted."}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "03:11:04", "end": "03:11:08", "text": "It's like being on a game show"}, {"start": "03:11:12", "end": "03:11:16", "text": ">> from Hex. Have you had any Men in Black"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:17", "text": "interaction since starting your research"}, {"start": "03:11:16", "end": "03:11:18", "text": "and coming forward?"}, {"start": "03:11:17", "end": "03:11:20", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "03:11:18", "end": "03:11:22", "text": ">> No. No. Uh no name. No. Uh"}, {"start": "03:11:20", "end": "03:11:24", "text": ">> no knocks on the door. And I've said it"}, {"start": "03:11:22", "end": "03:11:25", "text": "to everyone and I've said it on podcast."}, {"start": "03:11:24", "end": "03:11:27", "text": "Hey,"}, {"start": "03:11:25", "end": "03:11:28", "text": ">> everyone tells you which agency they're"}, {"start": "03:11:27", "end": "03:11:31", "text": "from when they talk to you?"}, {"start": "03:11:28", "end": "03:11:35", "text": ">> Well, no. They're from the 2764th"}, {"start": "03:11:31", "end": "03:11:37", "text": "uh detachment wing out of Bel Bellevore."}, {"start": "03:11:35", "end": "03:11:40", "text": "They do hire actors. They do hire"}, {"start": "03:11:37", "end": "03:11:42", "text": "weirdlooking people. Um they are"}, {"start": "03:11:40", "end": "03:11:43", "text": "trained."}, {"start": "03:11:42", "end": "03:11:43", "text": ">> You talking about the men of black?"}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:46", "text": ">> Yeah. But I mean the people that you're"}, {"start": "03:11:45", "end": "03:11:48", "text": "around, they they've always given you"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:50", "text": "they've always come forward with who"}, {"start": "03:11:48", "end": "03:11:52", "text": "they were with"}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:53", "text": "like which department they were with."}, {"start": "03:11:52", "end": "03:11:54", "text": ">> Some some have and some haven't."}, {"start": "03:11:53", "end": "03:11:55", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:11:54", "end": "03:11:58", "text": ">> And how do you know their intelligence"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:12:01", "text": "if they haven't?"}, {"start": "03:11:58", "end": "03:12:02", "text": ">> I guess I you know I guess you're right."}, {"start": "03:12:01", "end": "03:12:03", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "03:12:02", "end": "03:12:04", "text": ">> Great point."}, {"start": "03:12:03", "end": "03:12:06", "text": ">> But no, I have no interaction with men"}, {"start": "03:12:04", "end": "03:12:08", "text": "and black and I've said it publicly. You"}, {"start": "03:12:06", "end": "03:12:10", "text": "stop stealing my emails."}, {"start": "03:12:08", "end": "03:12:11", "text": ">> You want me to stop"}, {"start": "03:12:10", "end": "03:12:14", "text": ">> that? I've touched on something that's"}, {"start": "03:12:11", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "going to compromise national security."}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:19", "text": "Be a man. That's that's that's that's"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:22", "text": "combative. I'm sorry. Be a gentleman. Be"}, {"start": "03:12:19", "end": "03:12:24", "text": "a woman. A lady. Knock on my door. Show"}, {"start": "03:12:22", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "me your credentials. I'll take you out"}, {"start": "03:12:24", "end": "03:12:28", "text": "for coffee. I'll go show you the Home"}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "Alone house. We'll take pictures and you"}, {"start": "03:12:28", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "can tell me why I should stop and I'll"}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:32", "text": "stop."}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:34", "text": ">> I'm happy to do that, too. I think"}, {"start": "03:12:32", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "that's like a good happy middle ground"}, {"start": "03:12:34", "end": "03:12:39", "text": "with like national security and stuff."}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:41", "text": "There's too many there there there's"}, {"start": "03:12:39", "end": "03:12:42", "text": "there's, you know, there's no need for"}, {"start": "03:12:41", "end": "03:12:43", "text": ">> no"}, {"start": "03:12:42", "end": "03:12:45", "text": ">> tom foolery."}, {"start": "03:12:43", "end": "03:12:47", "text": ">> No, I will show you what I am."}, {"start": "03:12:45", "end": "03:12:48", "text": ">> Yeah. There's a lot of this cuz like,"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:50", "text": "you know, people say, \"Oh, they're"}, {"start": "03:12:48", "end": "03:12:52", "text": "getting warnings or like, oh, my phone,"}, {"start": "03:12:50", "end": "03:12:54", "text": "I'm hearing a clicking.\" It's like, just"}, {"start": "03:12:52", "end": "03:12:56", "text": "be overt. Let's just all just come into"}, {"start": "03:12:54", "end": "03:12:57", "text": "the light. The best antiseptic is"}, {"start": "03:12:56", "end": "03:12:59", "text": "sunlight. Let's just"}, {"start": "03:12:57", "end": "03:13:03", "text": ">> And that brings me to I had two"}, {"start": "03:12:59", "end": "03:13:07", "text": "different emails. We so groups of intel"}, {"start": "03:13:03", "end": "03:13:10", "text": "men, not my intelligence people"}, {"start": "03:13:07", "end": "03:13:13", "text": ">> believe that you are have been um you"}, {"start": "03:13:10", "end": "03:13:17", "text": "the the spy program"}, {"start": "03:13:13", "end": "03:13:19", "text": "um stingray centipede has been performed"}, {"start": "03:13:17", "end": "03:13:21", "text": "on your phone. They had to get a court"}, {"start": "03:13:19", "end": "03:13:23", "text": "order."}, {"start": "03:13:21", "end": "03:13:26", "text": "It's not like you did anything illegal."}, {"start": "03:13:23", "end": "03:13:28", "text": "It's a counter inelligence spy program."}, {"start": "03:13:26", "end": "03:13:31", "text": "It's called Stingray Centipede. That's"}, {"start": "03:13:28", "end": "03:13:33", "text": "what we think has happened to your"}, {"start": "03:13:31", "end": "03:13:36", "text": "phone. Another group said, \"This too"}, {"start": "03:13:33", "end": "03:13:38", "text": "sloppy. The United States government"}, {"start": "03:13:36", "end": "03:13:41", "text": "wouldn't steal your emails and let you"}, {"start": "03:13:38", "end": "03:13:43", "text": "know that your emails are gone. We think"}, {"start": "03:13:41", "end": "03:13:46", "text": "it's like China or Russia or Israel.\""}, {"start": "03:13:43", "end": "03:13:48", "text": ">> Oh, weird."}, {"start": "03:13:46", "end": "03:13:51", "text": ">> Keep you up at night."}, {"start": "03:13:48", "end": "03:13:53", "text": ">> Another thing. All right, last question"}, {"start": "03:13:51", "end": "03:13:56", "text": "here from the audience. Maybe my"}, {"start": "03:13:53", "end": "03:13:57", "text": "favorite question."}, {"start": "03:13:56", "end": "03:13:58", "text": ">> This is a tough question."}, {"start": "03:13:57", "end": "03:13:58", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:00", "text": ">> get ready."}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:03", "text": ">> I I I'm an open book. If I can answer"}, {"start": "03:14:00", "end": "03:14:05", "text": "it, I can answer it."}, {"start": "03:14:03", "end": "03:14:07", "text": ">> You ready? In the red corner, Victor or"}, {"start": "03:14:05", "end": "03:14:09", "text": "Oscar as we now know him. In the blue"}, {"start": "03:14:07", "end": "03:14:11", "text": "corner, Skinny Bob. Who wins? Or is it a"}, {"start": "03:14:09", "end": "03:14:14", "text": "draw?"}, {"start": "03:14:11", "end": "03:14:17", "text": ">> Okay, here's what I know. Skinny Bob has"}, {"start": "03:14:14", "end": "03:14:19", "text": "the same st owner signature and"}, {"start": "03:14:17", "end": "03:14:21", "text": "timestamp as the Victor video."}, {"start": "03:14:19", "end": "03:14:22", "text": ">> Yeah, you've pointed that out before. I"}, {"start": "03:14:21", "end": "03:14:23", "text": "don't know what that I don't know how."}, {"start": "03:14:22", "end": "03:14:25", "text": ">> Find that suspect."}, {"start": "03:14:23", "end": "03:14:27", "text": ">> I do find it interesting, but I also"}, {"start": "03:14:25", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "find that the it would have been much"}, {"start": "03:14:27", "end": "03:14:31", "text": "harder to put a time stamp on a film"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:34", "text": "than it is digitally. And so the time"}, {"start": "03:14:31", "end": "03:14:37", "text": "stamp that's on the Victor video is more"}, {"start": "03:14:34", "end": "03:14:40", "text": "impressive. A group of five special"}, {"start": "03:14:37", "end": "03:14:42", "text": "effects people said this that the that"}, {"start": "03:14:40", "end": "03:14:44", "text": "Skinny Bob was put through a program"}, {"start": "03:14:42", "end": "03:14:45", "text": "called Shutter Stock."}, {"start": "03:14:44", "end": "03:14:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Which is"}, {"start": "03:14:45", "end": "03:14:48", "text": ">> my daughter's got that. My"}, {"start": "03:14:47", "end": "03:14:50", "text": ">> daughter I've seen all that. I've done"}, {"start": "03:14:48", "end": "03:14:52", "text": "my due diligence on that. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:14:50", "end": "03:14:55", "text": ">> It was I'm going to tell you why."}, {"start": "03:14:52", "end": "03:14:59", "text": ">> And they can't again I can't figure this"}, {"start": "03:14:55", "end": "03:15:03", "text": "out. They can't figure out how the black"}, {"start": "03:14:59", "end": "03:15:06", "text": "triangle redaction was placed on that"}, {"start": "03:15:03", "end": "03:15:08", "text": "electronic film. not a real a film. They"}, {"start": "03:15:06", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "said that on a YouTube they were all"}, {"start": "03:15:08", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "sitting there like I don't know how you"}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:13", "text": "do that."}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:16", "text": ">> Yeah, corridor crew or whatever. Thank"}, {"start": "03:15:13", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "you. Now, that made me go, \"What?\""}, {"start": "03:15:16", "end": "03:15:21", "text": ">> When I looked into it as well, I saw the"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:23", "text": "filters were obviously fake, but the"}, {"start": "03:15:21", "end": "03:15:25", "text": "core video has still yet to be"}, {"start": "03:15:23", "end": "03:15:27", "text": ">> I believe it's real. And I and I think I"}, {"start": "03:15:25", "end": "03:15:30", "text": "know the provenence of it, which was you"}, {"start": "03:15:27", "end": "03:15:32", "text": "can let this out, but you have to put it"}, {"start": "03:15:30", "end": "03:15:33", "text": "through some sort of a filter to to give"}, {"start": "03:15:32", "end": "03:15:35", "text": "it a straw man argument that people can"}, {"start": "03:15:33", "end": "03:15:37", "text": "try and debunk it like, \"Oh, that's"}, {"start": "03:15:35", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "through shutter stock and it's over.\""}, {"start": "03:15:37", "end": "03:15:41", "text": "That is what I've been told about Skinny"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:43", "text": "Bob."}, {"start": "03:15:41", "end": "03:15:43", "text": ">> And that it was not in Russian"}, {"start": "03:15:43", "end": "03:15:46", "text": "captivity."}, {"start": "03:15:43", "end": "03:15:48", "text": ">> Like a plan leak once again."}, {"start": "03:15:46", "end": "03:15:49", "text": ">> I think so."}, {"start": "03:15:48", "end": "03:15:52", "text": ">> Okay, that's all the questions from the"}, {"start": "03:15:49", "end": "03:15:54", "text": "audience. Thank you for answering those."}, {"start": "03:15:52", "end": "03:15:57", "text": "We want to touch on one more thing."}, {"start": "03:15:54", "end": "03:16:00", "text": "Well, I just, you know, I I I I"}, {"start": "03:15:57", "end": "03:16:02", "text": "want to encourage people, maybe not to"}, {"start": "03:16:00", "end": "03:16:03", "text": "be as crazy as I have for after six"}, {"start": "03:16:02", "end": "03:16:06", "text": "years and all the money I've spent, but"}, {"start": "03:16:03", "end": "03:16:09", "text": "I just want to go over without petting"}, {"start": "03:16:06", "end": "03:16:11", "text": "myself, crediting the internet, just by"}, {"start": "03:16:09", "end": "03:16:13", "text": "going out on podcasts and doing this for"}, {"start": "03:16:11", "end": "03:16:15", "text": "six years, what other people have helped"}, {"start": "03:16:13", "end": "03:16:17", "text": "helped us. And I don't even think you"}, {"start": "03:16:15", "end": "03:16:20", "text": "even realize this is"}, {"start": "03:16:17", "end": "03:16:23", "text": ">> to my my group and and to the to the"}, {"start": "03:16:20", "end": "03:16:26", "text": "internet that um we have the first"}, {"start": "03:16:23", "end": "03:16:28", "text": "document out of Area 51, the Stanton log"}, {"start": "03:16:26", "end": "03:16:32", "text": "line. We have verified the Wilson Davis"}, {"start": "03:16:28", "end": "03:16:35", "text": "men me memo. We found two men um"}, {"start": "03:16:32", "end": "03:16:38", "text": "Casternick and another military general"}, {"start": "03:16:35", "end": "03:16:41", "text": "that were in the Wilson Davis memo."}, {"start": "03:16:38", "end": "03:16:43", "text": "Okay. We found those on documents on"}, {"start": "03:16:41", "end": "03:16:47", "text": "what's called the military bulletin"}, {"start": "03:16:43", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "board. It's like an internal um an"}, {"start": "03:16:47", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "internal"}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:52", "text": ">> memo board."}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:55", "text": ">> Memo board for DoD people. And somebody"}, {"start": "03:16:52", "end": "03:16:57", "text": "on the internet found the two names. One"}, {"start": "03:16:55", "end": "03:16:59", "text": "was a brigadier general and one was one"}, {"start": "03:16:57", "end": "03:17:02", "text": "was a a a um and they were in the"}, {"start": "03:16:59", "end": "03:17:04", "text": "scientific advisory. They had SA bang"}, {"start": "03:17:02", "end": "03:17:07", "text": "their name. These two names were on the"}, {"start": "03:17:04", "end": "03:17:10", "text": "Wilson Davis memo. We found them on"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:13", "text": "total innocuous documents on this"}, {"start": "03:17:10", "end": "03:17:16", "text": "military bulletin board. And I I'm happy"}, {"start": "03:17:13", "end": "03:17:17", "text": "to prove Eric Davis, you know, I don't"}, {"start": "03:17:16", "end": "03:17:18", "text": "know if he denies it or not."}, {"start": "03:17:17", "end": "03:17:20", "text": ">> Well, he definitely he definitely does"}, {"start": "03:17:18", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "not talk about it. He was asked about"}, {"start": "03:17:20", "end": "03:17:27", "text": "it. He's like, I will not talk. We found"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:31", "text": "Paul Kaminsky, USD a uh um um uh uh"}, {"start": "03:17:27", "end": "03:17:33", "text": "technology and um and Brigadier General"}, {"start": "03:17:31", "end": "03:17:35", "text": "Mike Costellik"}, {"start": "03:17:33", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "Od"}, {"start": "03:17:35", "end": "03:17:39", "text": "um and those were both on the Wilson"}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:42", "text": "Davis memos. People were saying those"}, {"start": "03:17:39", "end": "03:17:45", "text": "are fake generals and but we found them."}, {"start": "03:17:42", "end": "03:17:48", "text": "We found them on the you know innocuous"}, {"start": "03:17:45", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "military and I'm very proud of that. the"}, {"start": "03:17:48", "end": "03:17:53", "text": "internet. I think the biggest I think"}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:54", "text": "one of the biggest stories in euphology"}, {"start": "03:17:53", "end": "03:17:56", "text": "and I don't know I think people really"}, {"start": "03:17:54", "end": "03:17:58", "text": "do hate me. They don't want to see me"}, {"start": "03:17:56", "end": "03:17:59", "text": "win. We have proven"}, {"start": "03:17:58", "end": "03:18:01", "text": ">> I don't think that's true."}, {"start": "03:17:59", "end": "03:18:02", "text": ">> I'm I'm I'm being flippant."}, {"start": "03:18:01", "end": "03:18:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:18:02", "end": "03:18:08", "text": ">> But we have proven the OPNA BB the OP"}, {"start": "03:18:05", "end": "03:18:10", "text": "the U S P01 extraterrestrial recovery"}, {"start": "03:18:08", "end": "03:18:12", "text": "manual is is real. I've been in contact"}, {"start": "03:18:10", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "with Ryan Wood. Um"}, {"start": "03:18:12", "end": "03:18:16", "text": ">> yeah, he's done a lot of work on that."}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:18", "text": "He's got the measurements that that that"}, {"start": "03:18:16", "end": "03:18:19", "text": "he's got the the the raise Z,"}, {"start": "03:18:18", "end": "03:18:20", "text": ">> the crate sizes. Yeah, I mean I crate"}, {"start": "03:18:19", "end": "03:18:22", "text": "size."}, {"start": "03:18:20", "end": "03:18:23", "text": ">> I looked at all of the uh all of that as"}, {"start": "03:18:22", "end": "03:18:25", "text": "well. Yeah, it's very compelling."}, {"start": "03:18:23", "end": "03:18:26", "text": ">> Everything in that document is"}, {"start": "03:18:25", "end": "03:18:29", "text": "searchable. All of the names are"}, {"start": "03:18:26", "end": "03:18:30", "text": "retreads. S4, the blue room at right pad"}, {"start": "03:18:29", "end": "03:18:33", "text": "except one line."}, {"start": "03:18:30", "end": "03:18:35", "text": ">> Well, S4 was also there. There was like"}, {"start": "03:18:33", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "a that was a point of contention was the"}, {"start": "03:18:35", "end": "03:18:38", "text": "S-4."}, {"start": "03:18:37", "end": "03:18:40", "text": "Um that wouldn't"}, {"start": "03:18:38", "end": "03:18:42", "text": ">> you know there is an S4 at Tonapo. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:18:40", "end": "03:18:44", "text": "there's also Yeah. As for like just a"}, {"start": "03:18:42", "end": "03:18:45", "text": "storage facility, I think that that they"}, {"start": "03:18:44", "end": "03:18:47", "text": "use it for elsewhere."}, {"start": "03:18:45", "end": "03:18:50", "text": ">> There's one line that no one could"}, {"start": "03:18:47", "end": "03:18:52", "text": "figure out since 1954, where to bring"}, {"start": "03:18:50", "end": "03:18:55", "text": "living biological aliens,"}, {"start": "03:18:52", "end": "03:18:56", "text": ">> and it was a facility called Opnac"}, {"start": "03:18:55", "end": "03:18:58", "text": "BBS01."}, {"start": "03:18:56", "end": "03:19:01", "text": "And it said, \"This is where you take"}, {"start": "03:18:58", "end": "03:19:03", "text": "living that aren't degenerated, living"}, {"start": "03:19:01", "end": "03:19:05", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "03:19:03", "end": "03:19:07", "text": ">> specimens.\" No."}, {"start": "03:19:05", "end": "03:19:10", "text": ">> Sitting there one day, Mr. Stewart, this"}, {"start": "03:19:07", "end": "03:19:12", "text": "is on YouTube on a chat chat room. I"}, {"start": "03:19:10", "end": "03:19:15", "text": "think I know what opnack in the in that"}, {"start": "03:19:12", "end": "03:19:17", "text": "you've been talking about is it's the"}, {"start": "03:19:15", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "oceanic platform for the North Atlantic"}, {"start": "03:19:17", "end": "03:19:25", "text": "and the Caribbean. And I'm like"}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:27", "text": "layman's terms offshore platform."}, {"start": "03:19:25", "end": "03:19:28", "text": ">> Mr. Stewart, they've got biological"}, {"start": "03:19:27", "end": "03:19:30", "text": "specimens. They don't know if they're a"}, {"start": "03:19:28", "end": "03:19:32", "text": "contaminant to the continental United"}, {"start": "03:19:30", "end": "03:19:34", "text": "States and the people. They would want"}, {"start": "03:19:32", "end": "03:19:36", "text": "them on a on a facility that's separate"}, {"start": "03:19:34", "end": "03:19:37", "text": "offshore. also know where you can drive"}, {"start": "03:19:36", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "to."}, {"start": "03:19:37", "end": "03:19:45", "text": ">> Right. Exactly. And he and now another"}, {"start": "03:19:41", "end": "03:19:47", "text": "uh uh Italian guy named Adriano Ando, I"}, {"start": "03:19:45", "end": "03:19:50", "text": "think if I'm saying his name right, says"}, {"start": "03:19:47", "end": "03:19:53", "text": "I know what the BBS is. It was the"}, {"start": "03:19:50", "end": "03:19:55", "text": "Bermuda Biological Station attached to"}, {"start": "03:19:53", "end": "03:19:56", "text": "the Offshore platform."}, {"start": "03:19:55", "end": "03:19:57", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "03:19:56", "end": "03:20:00", "text": ">> Wait a minute. Sean Stewart, the"}, {"start": "03:19:57", "end": "03:20:02", "text": "investigator, who created Opnak and BBS?"}, {"start": "03:20:00", "end": "03:20:04", "text": "A guy by the name of Now I sound like"}, {"start": "03:20:02", "end": "03:20:06", "text": "UAP Gerb."}, {"start": "03:20:04", "end": "03:20:10", "text": "a guy by the name of Dr. Arthur"}, {"start": "03:20:06", "end": "03:20:13", "text": "Sherlock. He was a millionaire. He"}, {"start": "03:20:10", "end": "03:20:15", "text": "donated this platform to who? The United"}, {"start": "03:20:13", "end": "03:20:17", "text": "States Navy. They didn't talk about"}, {"start": "03:20:15", "end": "03:20:19", "text": "aliens in his bio. And what else did he"}, {"start": "03:20:17", "end": "03:20:22", "text": "help the Navy with?"}, {"start": "03:20:19", "end": "03:20:24", "text": ">> Propulsion. I know you're interesting."}, {"start": "03:20:22", "end": "03:20:27", "text": ">> Interesting. Art Sherlock, Dr. Art"}, {"start": "03:20:24", "end": "03:20:28", "text": "Sherlock was like a was like a year um"}, {"start": "03:20:27", "end": "03:20:30", "text": "50s"}, {"start": "03:20:28", "end": "03:20:35", "text": ">> 40s but they used this facility for"}, {"start": "03:20:30", "end": "03:20:38", "text": "aliens in 54 up until ' 62 when S2 Alpha"}, {"start": "03:20:35", "end": "03:20:40", "text": "at Papoose Lake was built and we have"}, {"start": "03:20:38", "end": "03:20:41", "text": "the Foye document from that and"}, {"start": "03:20:40", "end": "03:20:43", "text": ">> they transferred from there to Utah."}, {"start": "03:20:41", "end": "03:20:46", "text": ">> That's correct. That's correct."}, {"start": "03:20:43", "end": "03:20:47", "text": ">> And in the mid '9s uh I believe the"}, {"start": "03:20:46", "end": "03:20:49", "text": "Papoose Lake facility has been under"}, {"start": "03:20:47", "end": "03:20:50", "text": "caretaker status"}, {"start": "03:20:49", "end": "03:20:53", "text": ">> since since the mid90s"}, {"start": "03:20:50", "end": "03:20:54", "text": ">> and probably since Bob Lazar. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "03:20:53", "end": "03:20:57", "text": "The minute Blazard came out that blew"}, {"start": "03:20:54", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "them up that was that that the wheels"}, {"start": "03:20:57", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "were implemented to to to switch the"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:00", "text": "program."}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:03", "text": ">> I think it's interesting too because"}, {"start": "03:21:00", "end": "03:21:05", "text": "Victor had mentioned that the alien was"}, {"start": "03:21:03", "end": "03:21:10", "text": "brought to"}, {"start": "03:21:05", "end": "03:21:13", "text": "um S4 in '89. I wonder if that was the"}, {"start": "03:21:10", "end": "03:21:15", "text": "big thing that made the Russians leave"}, {"start": "03:21:13", "end": "03:21:18", "text": "cuz there was something there was some"}, {"start": "03:21:15", "end": "03:21:22", "text": "discovery according to Bob that happened"}, {"start": "03:21:18", "end": "03:21:23", "text": "in at S4 at Papoose. the Russians"}, {"start": "03:21:22", "end": "03:21:24", "text": "disparted with"}, {"start": "03:21:23", "end": "03:21:25", "text": ">> and they were working very closely with"}, {"start": "03:21:24", "end": "03:21:27", "text": "the Russians and if you're working with"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:28", "text": "the Russians it must have been of utter"}, {"start": "03:21:27", "end": "03:21:30", "text": "importance to work with like your enemy"}, {"start": "03:21:28", "end": "03:21:32", "text": "like that like so closely leave them"}, {"start": "03:21:30", "end": "03:21:34", "text": "into like the most"}, {"start": "03:21:32", "end": "03:21:36", "text": ">> like deepest part of the bowels of like"}, {"start": "03:21:34", "end": "03:21:37", "text": "the secrecy and then just to kick them"}, {"start": "03:21:36", "end": "03:21:39", "text": "out there must have been like some"}, {"start": "03:21:37", "end": "03:21:40", "text": "massive discovery"}, {"start": "03:21:39", "end": "03:21:42", "text": ">> and then this guy saying that the alien"}, {"start": "03:21:40", "end": "03:21:45", "text": "was brought there in '89. So I wonder if"}, {"start": "03:21:42", "end": "03:21:47", "text": "that was the reason they were like get"}, {"start": "03:21:45", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "the Russians out of here get us some"}, {"start": "03:21:47", "end": "03:21:52", "text": "psychics in the mountains of Vermont."}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "03:21:52", "end": "03:21:58", "text": "I I I I don't I I I wish I knew the"}, {"start": "03:21:55", "end": "03:22:00", "text": "providence of that being like what what"}, {"start": "03:21:58", "end": "03:22:02", "text": "crash or what hard landing. Do you know"}, {"start": "03:22:00", "end": "03:22:04", "text": "that two remote view here's another"}, {"start": "03:22:02", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "thing folks separate from John Stewart."}, {"start": "03:22:04", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "Do you know that two remote viewing"}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:12", "text": "groups remote viewed that this alien"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:15", "text": "interview video opposed from me? Yeah."}, {"start": "03:22:12", "end": "03:22:17", "text": "And both said we're seeing a tan being."}, {"start": "03:22:15", "end": "03:22:18", "text": "He's sick. He's distressed. There's a"}, {"start": "03:22:17", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "partition"}, {"start": "03:22:18", "end": "03:22:22", "text": ">> and he's in a no man's land."}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:24", "text": ">> No man's land is Papoose Lake. That's a"}, {"start": "03:22:22", "end": "03:22:24", "text": "nuclear fallout basically."}, {"start": "03:22:24", "end": "03:22:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:22:24", "end": "03:22:30", "text": ">> And um to the point where Richard Dolan"}, {"start": "03:22:27", "end": "03:22:32", "text": "was in on the session is like John"}, {"start": "03:22:30", "end": "03:22:36", "text": "Stewart's Don Coyote the windmill the"}, {"start": "03:22:32", "end": "03:22:38", "text": "alien interview Richard Dolan said I"}, {"start": "03:22:36", "end": "03:22:41", "text": "believe it's real from this blind this"}, {"start": "03:22:38", "end": "03:22:43", "text": "blind uh study and from what has John"}, {"start": "03:22:41", "end": "03:22:46", "text": "John has told us. Do you think it kind"}, {"start": "03:22:43", "end": "03:22:48", "text": "of matches the description loosely to uh"}, {"start": "03:22:46", "end": "03:22:50", "text": "Dan Bers's but not entirely like there"}, {"start": "03:22:48", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "Dan's had like scales on it too and and"}, {"start": "03:22:50", "end": "03:22:54", "text": "was like Dan was in a biosphere. These"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:55", "text": "people specifically said a partition and"}, {"start": "03:22:54", "end": "03:22:56", "text": "we're seeing a partition."}, {"start": "03:22:55", "end": "03:22:59", "text": ">> Yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah, it"}, {"start": "03:22:56", "end": "03:23:01", "text": "was a biosphere to to protect it. Okay."}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:04", "text": "Yeah, I just want to say go for it. You"}, {"start": "03:23:01", "end": "03:23:07", "text": "know, um"}, {"start": "03:23:04", "end": "03:23:09", "text": ">> that uh unlike Paul Benowitz um that"}, {"start": "03:23:07", "end": "03:23:11", "text": "that"}, {"start": "03:23:09", "end": "03:23:14", "text": "did not have a good interaction, I I"}, {"start": "03:23:11", "end": "03:23:16", "text": "actually emailed Bill Moore"}, {"start": "03:23:14", "end": "03:23:18", "text": ">> who everyone told me he would never"}, {"start": "03:23:16", "end": "03:23:20", "text": "email me back and he has emailed me"}, {"start": "03:23:18", "end": "03:23:22", "text": "back. He also is so frustrated with me"}, {"start": "03:23:20", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "told me not to email him again till"}, {"start": "03:23:22", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "March."}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:25", "text": ">> Till March."}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:27", "text": ">> And as Rick Dodie said, did you do"}, {"start": "03:23:25", "end": "03:23:29", "text": "realize you're you made Bill Moore"}, {"start": "03:23:27", "end": "03:23:31", "text": "crazy? the guy that's supposed to the"}, {"start": "03:23:29", "end": "03:23:33", "text": "reverse. I said I charged Castanza him."}, {"start": "03:23:31", "end": "03:23:35", "text": "He literally said do not contact me till"}, {"start": "03:23:33", "end": "03:23:36", "text": "March 15th to the eyes of March. I just"}, {"start": "03:23:35", "end": "03:23:37", "text": "want to say one thing."}, {"start": "03:23:36", "end": "03:23:40", "text": ">> Why till March 15th?"}, {"start": "03:23:37", "end": "03:23:42", "text": ">> It's the eyes of March. He's very hyper"}, {"start": "03:23:40", "end": "03:23:45", "text": "intelligent. If if I I would tell you he"}, {"start": "03:23:42", "end": "03:23:48", "text": "was Victor, but I he said he said he's"}, {"start": "03:23:45", "end": "03:23:49", "text": "not, but he knows everything about it."}, {"start": "03:23:48", "end": "03:23:51", "text": "And I just want to tell you what he left"}, {"start": "03:23:49", "end": "03:23:54", "text": "me. What he said to me."}, {"start": "03:23:51", "end": "03:23:56", "text": ">> Um claims he wasn't Victor. claims he"}, {"start": "03:23:54", "end": "03:23:58", "text": "had the neck tie that Victor wore that"}, {"start": "03:23:56", "end": "03:24:01", "text": "he threw it away six years ago that he"}, {"start": "03:23:58", "end": "03:24:03", "text": "knows who Victor is and that he's played"}, {"start": "03:24:01", "end": "03:24:06", "text": "a small part in this. He said it was a"}, {"start": "03:24:03", "end": "03:24:08", "text": "hoax. Listen now, why would John Stewart"}, {"start": "03:24:06", "end": "03:24:11", "text": "debunk his because I don't care if it's"}, {"start": "03:24:08", "end": "03:24:13", "text": "real or not. He said it was a hoax, but"}, {"start": "03:24:11", "end": "03:24:16", "text": "then he says, \"But if I tell you the"}, {"start": "03:24:13", "end": "03:24:20", "text": "truth of that film and if I tell you the"}, {"start": "03:24:16", "end": "03:24:22", "text": "truth of what that film is about, you"}, {"start": "03:24:20", "end": "03:24:24", "text": "and I will be swinging from an end of a"}, {"start": "03:24:22", "end": "03:24:26", "text": "rope.\" That is in an email from an 84"}, {"start": "03:24:24", "end": "03:24:29", "text": "year old former"}, {"start": "03:24:26", "end": "03:24:33", "text": ">> asset of the CIA. He was a asset of the"}, {"start": "03:24:29", "end": "03:24:36", "text": "CIA, not of Rick Dodie. And um scary. If"}, {"start": "03:24:33", "end": "03:24:40", "text": "I tell you the truth, you and I will"}, {"start": "03:24:36", "end": "03:24:40", "text": "swing from an end of a rope."}, {"start": "03:24:40", "end": "03:24:42", "text": ">> Wild."}, {"start": "03:24:40", "end": "03:24:47", "text": ">> You ask your viewers, what would you I'm"}, {"start": "03:24:42", "end": "03:24:50", "text": "going to keep going and uh"}, {"start": "03:24:47", "end": "03:24:53", "text": "I I I will find Victor's complete"}, {"start": "03:24:50", "end": "03:24:54", "text": "identity. Um,"}, {"start": "03:24:53", "end": "03:24:56", "text": ">> is that the mission?"}, {"start": "03:24:54", "end": "03:24:57", "text": ">> Got to be the mission."}, {"start": "03:24:56", "end": "03:24:59", "text": ">> I'm on the board. I can't get off. It's"}, {"start": "03:24:57", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "like the octopus. That octopus."}, {"start": "03:24:59", "end": "03:25:02", "text": ">> You prove Victor. Yeah. You prove"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:02", "text": "Victor. You prove the alien or you prove"}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:04", "text": "the video."}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:05", "text": ">> Prove the alien or at least prove the"}, {"start": "03:25:04", "end": "03:25:08", "text": "government did it and it was a scop."}, {"start": "03:25:05", "end": "03:25:12", "text": "Yeah. And and and and again, I go on"}, {"start": "03:25:08", "end": "03:25:14", "text": "record. I 97 to 98% I I know the United"}, {"start": "03:25:12", "end": "03:25:16", "text": "States government had a hand in filming"}, {"start": "03:25:14", "end": "03:25:18", "text": "this or at least recreating and filming"}, {"start": "03:25:16", "end": "03:25:21", "text": "this. I am confident. Well, I'll tell"}, {"start": "03:25:18", "end": "03:25:23", "text": "you where my conviction level has been"}, {"start": "03:25:21", "end": "03:25:25", "text": "raised incredibly due to this"}, {"start": "03:25:23", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "conversation. So, I want to thank you"}, {"start": "03:25:25", "end": "03:25:30", "text": "for coming here and enlightening me uh"}, {"start": "03:25:27", "end": "03:25:31", "text": "you know with your research and I think"}, {"start": "03:25:30", "end": "03:25:33", "text": "um I think you know there are some"}, {"start": "03:25:31", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "people that give you a bad rap for some"}, {"start": "03:25:33", "end": "03:25:38", "text": "reason. I can't figure it out. I I guess"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:40", "text": "I guess it's you have very aggro energy,"}, {"start": "03:25:38", "end": "03:25:42", "text": "but I mean it's in a good it's directed"}, {"start": "03:25:40", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "in a way that we we like, you know, we"}, {"start": "03:25:42", "end": "03:25:47", "text": "want people like you kicking down doors"}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:50", "text": "and taking names cuz I'm not going to do"}, {"start": "03:25:47", "end": "03:25:52", "text": "it. I'm not that person. You know, I'm a"}, {"start": "03:25:50", "end": "03:25:54", "text": "person who has conversations and who who"}, {"start": "03:25:52", "end": "03:25:56", "text": "thinks philosophically maybe in my quiet"}, {"start": "03:25:54", "end": "03:25:58", "text": "little corner, but um you're somebody uh"}, {"start": "03:25:56", "end": "03:26:00", "text": "and and UAP Gerb is another person who's"}, {"start": "03:25:58", "end": "03:26:02", "text": "kicking doors and"}, {"start": "03:26:00", "end": "03:26:04", "text": ">> I I think we need more people like that."}, {"start": "03:26:02", "end": "03:26:06", "text": ">> Yeah. regardless of clashing"}, {"start": "03:26:04", "end": "03:26:09", "text": "personalities. I think uh yeah, I think"}, {"start": "03:26:06", "end": "03:26:12", "text": "what you're doing is a is a net positive"}, {"start": "03:26:09", "end": "03:26:16", "text": "to to some extent and um I'd like to I'd"}, {"start": "03:26:12", "end": "03:26:17", "text": "like to see you continue that safely and"}, {"start": "03:26:16", "end": "03:26:19", "text": "you know wish you all the safety in your"}, {"start": "03:26:17", "end": "03:26:22", "text": "journey and hopefully you get to find"}, {"start": "03:26:19", "end": "03:26:25", "text": "out who Victor is. Uh if anybody wants"}, {"start": "03:26:22", "end": "03:26:28", "text": "to support you um where can they find"}, {"start": "03:26:25", "end": "03:26:29", "text": "you? What can they do? Yeah, I I think"}, {"start": "03:26:28", "end": "03:26:31", "text": "the best way and it's worked for six"}, {"start": "03:26:29", "end": "03:26:35", "text": "years and and I've been told that this"}, {"start": "03:26:31", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "familiarity, this personal touch is"}, {"start": "03:26:35", "end": "03:26:39", "text": "probably what got me a lot of people to"}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:40", "text": "help me. Instead of them having to call"}, {"start": "03:26:39", "end": "03:26:42", "text": "a company and go through a switchboard"}, {"start": "03:26:40", "end": "03:26:45", "text": "and get a hold of me, I leave my email."}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:48", "text": ">> My email is uh John Jen without the H."}, {"start": "03:26:45", "end": "03:26:52", "text": "My middle name Allen A. My last name"}, {"start": "03:26:48", "end": "03:26:53", "text": "Stuart S Wrol.com."}, {"start": "03:26:52", "end": "03:26:58", "text": "Don't laugh that I have AOL. I'm an old"}, {"start": "03:26:53", "end": "03:27:00", "text": "guy. and on axe um John Stewart Ryel."}, {"start": "03:26:58", "end": "03:27:02", "text": ">> Well, John, you're uh you're a true"}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:04", "text": "gentleman. Thank you so much for for"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:05", "text": "coming here and I hope we covered uh"}, {"start": "03:27:04", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "most of what you wanted to talk about"}, {"start": "03:27:05", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "today. I I know you probably got a lot"}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:09", "text": "more."}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:11", "text": ">> No, no, no, we did. It's it's been it's"}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:14", "text": "just it's it's been uh"}, {"start": "03:27:11", "end": "03:27:16", "text": ">> I'm I'm I am just so uh honored to be"}, {"start": "03:27:14", "end": "03:27:20", "text": "here. It's been a great conversation. I"}, {"start": "03:27:16", "end": "03:27:23", "text": "hope um uh with how people view you on"}, {"start": "03:27:20", "end": "03:27:24", "text": "the internet that this this moves my"}, {"start": "03:27:23", "end": "03:27:27", "text": "investigation and the conversation and"}, {"start": "03:27:24", "end": "03:27:29", "text": "and moves the needle in a in a good"}, {"start": "03:27:27", "end": "03:27:30", "text": "direction that will help us solve this"}, {"start": "03:27:29", "end": "03:27:31", "text": "and I can move on."}, {"start": "03:27:30", "end": "03:27:31", "text": ">> I'm pretty certain it will."}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:36", "text": ">> Thanks for your time."}, {"start": "03:27:32", "end": "03:27:36", "text": ">> Thank you, sir."}]

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So, if you guys"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "could send me a text message or figure"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "out a way to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "yeah, give me some information how I can"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "send you guys that video, that would be"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "awesome. I'd love to hear your take on"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "it. Appreciate you,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "bro. What the is that?"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to a"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "very special edition of Debriefed. My"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "name is Chris Ramsey and today we're"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "going to be taking a look at triangles."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Not just any triangles, the triangles of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "a flying variety. The stealthy, dark,"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "ominous triangles that linger over so"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "many people's heads, including a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "people that have called into this very"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "show. As you know, I have a 800 number."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "It is a toll-free number. you can call"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and you can tell us about your sighting."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Now, we've usually limited those calls"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "to a minute. Uh that has been lifted. I"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "think I think it's a 10-minute limit at"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "this point. I would encourage you to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "keep it short to be a part of the intro."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "But every now and then, I've decided"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "with your help and the help of the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "audience to put together a sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "compilation of some of the most"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "interesting calls that we've received."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "And I thought it would be really fitting"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "if we categorize them. And today's"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "category is going to be these sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "ominous black triangles, whether the"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "TR3B, TR3A, what have you. But I've also"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "prepared"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "somewhat of a documentary that I was"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "going to uh edit and put out there and I"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "just never got around to it. But I have"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "these interviews and so we're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "splice those in among a lot of your"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "phone calls. So folks, without any"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "further ado,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> when I was about 10 or 11, I was in"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Mountainberg, Arkansas,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "and it was right when the 1979"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Taylor Swift album came out. I think it"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "was 2014."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "I was listening it listening to it on a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "radio with my cousin. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "out of nowhere these triangle"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "UFO objects that formed a larger"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "triangle appeared above us. Our phones"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "shut off, the radio shut offs,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "and then out of nowhere they were gone,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "but there was no noise. And I've been"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "trying to get answers to this day. I"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "still don't know what it was."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> So, I was just driving, you know, like,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "and like I said, there was there's"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "nothing around. There's no light."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "There's no like nothing, right? Trees,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "pitch black. So I was just driving and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "then I was going up a big hill and then"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "I just noticed like lights in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "right? So I just looked just because So"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "at that point they were really far so I"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "was like, \"Oh, that's a plane.\" But"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "there was no like flashing lights like"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "you see like on most of the planes. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "so as I was driving up"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "now I see like bigger lights and three"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "lights and they were closer. They were"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "getting closer. I didn't see like the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "movement at that moment. I was driving,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "you know, and just like I looked again"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "and I just saw like three bigger lights."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "I don't know why, but my first instinct"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "was to there was a house there, but"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "there was no like beams of light coming"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "out of the the three lights. Like it was"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "just like lights, you know, and uh I"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "just parked where the the house was"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "because the lights were like really"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "really low at this point. Twice the the"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "the the height of the the house maybe."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Wow. Okay. So, pretty low. Not not high"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "enough for an airplane."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> No, I could see like they were bigger"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "because it was closer, right? So, I"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "stopped. I parked cuz I I was like,"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "\"What the hell is this?\" I rolled down"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "the window to see if I could hear"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "something cuz like I thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "plane. Not really. But no sound"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "whatsoever. No. No sound. And it was not"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "moving. It was there. At that moment, I"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "freaked out and I left. I was like, my"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "heart was racing. I left. And I was like"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "maybe three minutes from home. I drove."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "I kept looking. I I could still see the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "light, like the the three lights. I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "didn't see them move, but as I was"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "driving,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "I could see them like further away. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "they were they they weren't as like"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "close to the house. So like for sure"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "they were moving."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Um and then 3 minutes later when I got"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "home, they were gone. But all the the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "you know the from that moment at the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "house to my house I could see the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "lights. My heart was racing and I I"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "couldn't sleep after for a while. Like a"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "few a few hours I was like yeah I was I"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "was freaked out at that point. Even now"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "I'm saying it I'm like did I really see"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "that? Maybe because it's been a while"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "but like I'm like it really happened"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "like it's weird right? But um yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "told a few people. And crazy story,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "my dad years prior to that, like I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "know how many years, he saw something on"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "top of the same house. I don't know. It"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "sounds so crazy. It sounds like"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": " but like I'm I'm telling you."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "And now every time I go by this house,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "I'm like UFO UFO house. There's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "something there. I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "something that I've never seen before."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Hi, Patrick from Germany here. In July"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "2013 in Germany near the French border,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "um I had a close encounter with my"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "ex-girlfriend. Um around 10:30 at night,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "my partner and I uh saw a massive pitch"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "black triangular craft that just"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "descended uh and stopped just 10 m or 30"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "ft above us. It had three bright lights,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "made no sound whatsoever, and seemed to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "paralyze us. We couldn't move or react"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "and uh the triangle then after"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "performing a sharp zigzag movement shot"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "off into the sky just leaving streaks of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "light behind. It was so fast we couldn't"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "believe it. We felt confused almost like"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "time had war. That momently moment"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "completely changed me uh forever. Before"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I was a strict atheist and now I just"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "know that there's more out there."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> Yeah. So, um, this happened when I was"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "like 12 years old. I was staying at my"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "grandmother's house with my father and"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "my family. And we were driving home from"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "some family gathering. It might have"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "been 10 11:00 at night. And as we were"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "approaching my grandmother's house, you"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "know, it was sort of like a relatively"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "hilly kind of area. And you could see"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "her house, you know, far off in the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "distance, a good half mile away, a"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "little bit down the hill. And from the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "backseat of the car, I could see the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "house, but in the sky behind it, I could"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "see this perfect clear shape of like a"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "triangle spacecraft with a glowing"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "lights at each end and one in the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "center. And I remember thinking to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "myself like, that's a UFO."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "My son and I and my girlfriend were"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "leaving there when we saw"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "uh a light in the distance that very"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "quickly, very quickly went from a tiny"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "dot to something very big. And it was"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "three lights that"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "on the corners of a gigantic black"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "triangle."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "It It was huge. It was very low and"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "slow. I mean, this is something that you"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "could probably hit with a rock from. It"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "was so low. And um it was a giant black"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "triangle, huge, unbelievably large with"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "a round"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "shimmering glow coming from the point of"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "each tri uh of the triangles."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Uh when it stopped, it sort of tipped"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "upward a little bit. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "that had anything to do with"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "deceleration,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "but it stopped dead over the top of us,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "turned 90° to the right. So, the the the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "point of the triangle was now pointed"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "off to the west, and then it shot off in"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "that direction."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Um, this is something I probably"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "wouldn't have uh reported if it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "for the fact that um there was a a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "number of people who saw it too. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "in a highly populated part of California"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "and all these uh independent reports"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "were taken by one particular"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "UFO reporting group."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "um circles with numbers in them, but you"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "12 or 15 people who didn't know each"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "other, weren't connected, and were all"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "reporting seeing the same thing that we"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "saw."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> This had so it had three sort of like"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "were they were they colorful lights on"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the edges or"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Well, it was a kind somewhat of a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "strange uh color. I wouldn't call it"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "yellow or white. It was, but it had a"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "shimmer to it that was odd looking"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "straight up into it. Uh I think some"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "kind of energy source boiling out of"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "there. But uh uh"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> say boiling. So it was like was it like"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "a roing sort of rolling?"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> Yeah. On a very tiny scale, not big, but"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "uh uh vibrational look to it that uh uh"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> Did you see a sphere in the lights? Like"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "was there like a clear bulb there?"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "didn't seem like, oh, here's a light so"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "you don't run into it because it was"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "embedded in the surface. So, it was sort"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "of beneath the surface and you don't"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "fully see it"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> until it's directly over you. So, I"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "think it had something to do with um"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "keeping it lofted,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> the propulsion or something."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> Yeah. What What is this? Is this u"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "something some earthbased agency has? I"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "don't know where they hide such a"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "monstrosity. maybe under the sea, but uh"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "it was huge."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "And uh if it is"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "an earth-based agency, I think that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "would be the reason they stopped"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "directly over the top of us. They knew"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "we would be at that muon meeting and uh"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "knew where we were at the time."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> You believe it stopped over over you"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "specifically? I do because you know"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "there's highly populated area and why"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "you know it'd be a really huge"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "coincidence to stop over the top of us"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and then shoot off now. Could have been"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "aliens on board piloting this thing too."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "Who knows? Don't know. It was definitely"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "technology that's not known to be in the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "possession of humans."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> And um you were in the car at this"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "point?"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> Who was driving? Uh, my son was driving."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "My girlfriend was in the back seat"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "looking straight up through the glass."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "She got a real good look at it. Had a"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "very strange sort of uh semi- gloss"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "black"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "uh texture to it. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> you described it like scales almost."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> like a tiling like a staggered tile like"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "almost."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> Yeah, something like that. And that"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "would be one way that uh"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "uh fits the description. I started off,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "well, again, started off because I was"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "at Muon"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "and I got a a call"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "probably in early 2013 or mid 2013 that"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "there was a a guy out in southwestern"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Ontario who apparently had witnessed a"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "black triangular craft at about 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "distance. And I found that to be pretty"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "interesting when I read the report"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "because he said that he had seen it very"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "clearly. he was able to describe the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "texture of the craft. So that got me"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "interested in the black triangular craft"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "at that time. Uh met with him, very"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "credible witness still today. Uh didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "come across as a UFO fanatic. He knew"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "nothing about UFOs at the time. He"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "wasn't an alien. He wasn't interested in"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "the topic. He was just freaked out that"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "he had this experience. So, uh, and as I"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "was investigating his account, it came I"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "I started realizing I go, \"Well, if you"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "saw this, maybe some other people saw"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "it, too, cuz I mean, it's not like he"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "couldn't have seen it that close and be"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the only person.\" Uh, in his case, I"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "think that he at that night that he saw"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "it, I don't think there were other"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "people there. I would have found out"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "about it because I investigated the the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "area. But I immediately came to find out"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "that in the southwestern Ontario region,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "there were multiple cases of people who"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "had witnessed a black triangular craft."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "And this was being posted through the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Muon uh network. That was interesting"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "because it immediately"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "raised a red flag to me cuz I saw how"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "many there were. And when you see the"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "number and you see I I think there was"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "over 200"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "sightings in southwestern Ontario alone"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "within a period of 2 years."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> What's his example of the sighting that"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "he saw?"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> So he was driving he had a red pickup if"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "I'm not wrong and he was driving home uh"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "from a friend's house. It was 2:00 in"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "the morning and this is right next to a"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "place called Lynen, Ontario. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "such a small"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "town that you you you blink. I think"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "there's just one one crossroad there."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "There's a church. There's a couple of"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "houses, maybe a little store, and that's"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "it. And there's a cemetery. So, he's"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "coming back driving on this country"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "road. And he says he saw what he thought"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "was a helicopter on fire. He says it"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "looked like a big orange flamy thing,"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "but it looked like an orange fire and it"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "was hovering and coming down slowly. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "he said it's not an airplane. He he"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "figured maybe it's a helicopter. So he"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "turned cuz he saw it crossed over the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "road and it was going to the right. So"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "he turned on this road thinking maybe if"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "they crash I'll be able to go and help"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "them. So, as he's driving, he gets to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "the point where he now has a view of the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "church in Lynden. And he says the object"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "was hovering right above the church"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "tower and it was probably maybe 100 ft"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "from where he was. So, he stopped the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "truck and to his right was this"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "cemetery, this little old cemetery. He"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "puts the car the truck in park. Now,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "he's in the middle of the road, but it's"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "he says there's nobody there. It's 2:00"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "in the morning. It was quiet. He just"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "stepped out of the truck and he's got"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "one foot in the truck, one foot out, and"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "he's looking at it and he's going, \"What"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "am I looking at?\" Like he saw that it"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "was a triangular craft with what he"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "described as an orange ball of fire in"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "the center of it. And he says in an"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "instant the object literally he said it"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "almost looked like it disappeared and"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "appeared right below the street light 20"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "ft in front of him over the street. And"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "he says he got super scared because he"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "couldn't understand how fast that"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "happened. So he says immediately he"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "thought this was some type of a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "projector. He he thought maybe they're"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "projecting this in a way and there's"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "like he goes maybe I'm on candid camera"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "like he says there's something they're"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "going to come out with balloons and say"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "we got you and"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> it's probably the most logical reasoning"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "that you could have for seeing something"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> that's that's what he said. He goes I"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "was sure they were projecting it. So he"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "goes I started looking around to see if"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "there was people or if there was"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "something cuz he goes there's just no"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "way this is possible. But yet he said it"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "was there and it was quiet. The first"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "thing he says was black. He said it"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "looked like it was a a shiny. He called"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "it diamond black. I don't know why he"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "said diamond black, but he says it"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "looked like a shiny diamond because he"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "said the top of it, it wasn't like a"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "flat triangle. He says the top of it was"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "kind of like like a pyramid, but it"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "wasn't a full pyramid. It's like as if"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "like it went in and then it went up. So"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "he goes, \"I could see that there was"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "something on the top that was pointy.\""}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "And he said the texture, he was it was"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "so close that he was able to look at it"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "and said it looked like little bricks,"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "like little rectangular black diamond"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "texture. That's what he called it. And"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "he says he's looking at this thing and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "in the center he says it looked like"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "lava was just moving in the center of it"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "like it was just boiling hot lava. and"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "he thought, \"What the hell am I looking"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "at?\" And it had three lights, one on"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "each end. He says they were white"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "lights. At a certain point while we were"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "talking, he says it could have had a"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "fourth light, he said, but I don't"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "remember. He says, \"I just remember it"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "tilting like this.\" And it he said it"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "moved over to the right at such an"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "incredible speed over the cemetery that"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "was right to his right there. And he"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "says it just stopped and he said there"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "was a a red laser that came down and it"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "was like a he called it like a sewing"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "machine. It was like dut and it was like"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "scanning the cemetery ground like that."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "And when he saw that he says that's when"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "I got scared. He said cuz I thought"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "maybe what if it shoots that laser at"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "me. This guy doesn't know what he's"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "looking at. He's just going like what"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "the hell is going on? He gets in the"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "truck. He like he goes back into the"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "truck cuz he was afraid. and he looks"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "and he says it tilted again, but this"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "time it went really slowly over the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "trees and it went out of sight. So he"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "says, \"I bolted out of there and went"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "right home think and went on the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "internet thinking this is going to be"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "like in the news like somebody's going"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "to see this cuz he goes there's just no"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "way that I'm the only guy who saw this."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Never wanted to go public. Doesn't want"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "his name to go public. I mean, if if"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "he's looking for attention, he certainly"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "didn't want public attention. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "always been interesting when you get"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "these very credible witnesses who don't"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "want anybody to know that they saw this"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "because they know it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> Hi, my name is Aaron and live in"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Colorado Springs. Um, back in 2019, I"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "just uh there was a particular week"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "where I just noticed a ton of black"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "helicopters flying around um just day"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "after day uh multiple kind of together"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "in formation and and uh flying solo they"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "shaking the house. But uh one night I"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "was coming home and kind of saw"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "something off in the distance. um clear"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "night. Um but as it came overhead, it"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "was like blocking out the stars. It was"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "at least 50 to 100 ft above me. And as"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "it came right over me, it was this black"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "triangle. No lights, no nothing. Just"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "blocking out the stars. It was like soap"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "opera effect on your TV. Just so smooth,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "flying super slow. Just came right over"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "me and just kept going off into the"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "distance."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "Uh my name is Nell and my encounter took"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "place in 1992 with my father and older"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "brother. We were outside my brother's"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "house at uh in York, Pennsylvania and we"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "saw a triangular ship um fly over and it"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "had two fighter jets near each rear"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "corner trying to force a landing is what"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "my brother and father said. It was a"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "triangle. It wasn't a stealth fighter"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "like everyone tries to say that it was."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "It was very confusing."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": ">> And after that documentary aired, um, he"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "actually called me and he said to me,"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "\"Mate, that story that was on TV"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "recently in ' 88, he said, \"My brother"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "Tony and I walked out,\" and his name's"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Michael. He said, \"My brother Tony and I"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "walked out to have a cigarette in the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "backyard.\" And he said, \"We looked up"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "and in the sky there was a\" He said, \"It"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "was a triangular uh craft, massive.\" He"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "said, \"Mate, it was bigger than the"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "three houses put together. You could not"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "see any stars.\" He said, \"When you"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "looked up, you just saw pitch black."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Couldn't see anything.\" And he said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "never ever forget it.\" And then about 2"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "3 weeks later, I ran into his brother"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "who just moved back home into their"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "family home. and I was driving uh past"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "and saw him out the front. Hadn't seen"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "him for a while, so I pulled up to say"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "hello. Anyway, he said to me, he goes,"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "\"Mate, Peter, that show the other day,\""}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "he said, \"I remember my brother Michael"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "and I were outside having a cigarette,"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "and we looked up and there was a giant"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "object hovering above your house, the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "neighbor's house and our house.\" Now,"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "nothing happened to them. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "experience any abduction or anything"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "like that, but they had a recall, a"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "conscious recall of it happening"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": ">> that night that you were"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": ">> that 1988. Yes. And I've never they"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "never said that to me before. I think"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "when they watched the show, it triggered"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": ">> It was November of 2023,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "I believe. Last year,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "I was driving home"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "and in the sky, I'm always driving. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "always looking up. It's what I do. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "looking. If I see something in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "I'm I'm I'm looking to see if it's"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "blinking. I'm sure a lot of you are like"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "that as well. I see a light, a very"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "bright light, far away, like a star, but"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "pretty bright. And I go, \"All right, let"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "me just keep an eye on it to see if it"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "starts blinking.\" And and if you're"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "looking at a plane from uh the front,"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "you sometimes can't see a blink, right?"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "If the blinks are on the tail or if"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "they're far enough away, maybe you won't"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "see it. So, I see this thing just"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "getting brighter. I'm like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "interesting.\" Okay. I take the on-ramp"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "to take the exit where I live and I turn"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "and now this thing is really bright"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "coming pretty close. I still got my eye"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "on it. I turn into this parking lot and"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "as I stop it is almost overhead. It is"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "coming towards me and now I'm realizing"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "there are three lights"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "and one green emerald light in the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "middle."}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "I park my car. I open the door"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "immediately. I drive an electric"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "vehicle. It doesn't make any noise. I"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "wanted to see anything that low. I don't"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "care what it was. Name the thing."}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Anything that low would make a noise."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Anything with an engine."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "I open the door. I'm looking at it now."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "It's flying almost overhead."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "I'm My brain's trying to make sense of"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "this. You have to understand this is"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "this is how your mind works. Your mind's"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "like like filing through the cabinet."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "What is this? Is this, you know, is this"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "match this or that? And that's what your"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "brain's doing. It's frantic."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "And my brain's starting to starting to"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "wonder, oh, is this a helicopter doing"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "some type of maneuver where it's like"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "I'm seeing the underbelly of the"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "helicopter,"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "but I'm like, no. Cuz I open the door"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "and there's no noise. None. No noise."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "That"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "freaked me out. I don't know how else to"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "describe it. It made the hairs on my"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "entire body stand up. Seeing it was like"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "seeing a ghost."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "Now I'm watching this thing,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "this triangle"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "fly over my head, standing up outside my"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "car,"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "and I go, \"My phone. I need to film"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "this.\" I scramble to get my phone. I'm"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "trying to film. I open my camera. It's"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "on photo mode. I'm still looking at it."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "I go to video mode. I hit record. And"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "the second I hit record,"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "two of the lights go out,"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "folks. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "This is a terrible story, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "because now all I have is footage of"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "these two lights"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "moving across the sky, going behind a"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "building. Eventually, I followed it, by"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "the way, and it goes behind a mountain"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "and we don't see it again."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "How convenient that you film this thing"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "and two lights go out. Now, it's just"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "two lights. Well, first of all, let me"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "say this, okay?"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "I know what I saw."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "I don't have to"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "I don't have to prove that to anybody. I"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "have that. I know what I saw. It freaked"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "me out. Secondly,"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "the video that I have of these two"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "lights traveling, none of those lights"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "are flashing."}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Now, although in the video in the grain"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "it might look like they're sort of"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "blinking, that's just the pixels."}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "They're not flashing. You can tell. Look"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "close enough, they are not flashing."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "Every plane has to have a flashing light"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "on the tail or on the wings or"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "something. This is just two lights"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "traversing like this, which were three"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "and four in the middle. And now it's"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "just going like this. And so what part"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "of the plane is that? If you're"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "watching, let me know. Draw it out for"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "me. What part of the plane"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "do these two lights represent?"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "That's all I want to know. That's all"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "you can tell me that's definitely a"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "plane in the comments or oh no, that"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "must be a glider or a drone or a"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "helicopter. Whatever it is, just tell me"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "what two lights on the plane those"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "represent and why are none of them"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "blinking. That's all I want to know"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "because what I saw was definitely not a"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "plane."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> Hey Chris. Um my name is Chris too"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "actually. My name, my full name is"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "Christian. Um, the story I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "give you is nothing too incredibly"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "exciting, but it definitely is a UFO"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "sighting. It was in uh southern Arizona"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "in Maricopa County. Um, at the end of a"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "long road, if you pass the big casino on"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "your right and keep going to the end of"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "the road, there is a campground at the"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "end of that and a uh you can either turn"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "left or right, and the campground is"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "across that road. Okay, so picture this"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "is back in like 2019, I believe. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "was standing there. I was on contract."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "Um, I was a UXO, uh, unexloded"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "ordinance, uh, you know, disposal"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "technician, I suppose. Um, you can look"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "that up. It's hard to explain, but so I"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "was there and I was standing there alone"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "at like 4:30 in the morning waiting for"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "a van to come pick me up for work. And"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "this thing was no more than 500 ft above"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "my head, maybe less. It was absolutely"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "ginormous. And it was absolutely the"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "black triangle craft. No sound, no"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "propulsion. It had a light on each"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "corner and a light right in the middle."}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "Passed right over my head just kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "casually going to the northwest. Uh"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "nothing too exciting, but definitely the"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "black triangle UFO. It was absolutely"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "there. I was of sober mind. wasn't high."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "It definitely happened."}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm I'm only calling because like"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "I said, YouTube"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "uh these channels aren't uh going to"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "draw too much attention to me probably."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "A few years ago, I live here in a of the"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "uh Fosroy, Ohio, and me and a friend had"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "pulled up in front of my my house and I"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "live in a residential community and um"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "we were getting a drum kit out of the"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "car and I had the big bass drum and I"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "was walking up to the front of like the"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "sidewalk going up to the front of my"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "house and it was all the stars around."}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "It was a beautiful night. So, as I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "like walking with this awkward bass kick"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "drum, I look up and right when I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "looking up going right over my house,"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "the timing was crazy, too, was this"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "black triangle. And"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "it was about as big as my house from it"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "was about a little bit the wing tips on"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "both sides would be bigger than the"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "white the width of my my house."}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "I had a sighting about well several"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "sightings about 10 years ago."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "Um I was standing outside my balcony."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "However, I do remember"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "um just thinking to myself ever so"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "quietly that I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "um see a UFO. Sorry, I don't know how to"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "start this. But anyway, um I lived in"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "Los Angeles in Sherman Elves,"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "California."}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "And I believe it was about 2012"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "to 2013."}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "I saw three black um triangles. And it"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "was it literally came after I had a"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "thought saying I wanted to learn about"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "you. I wanted to see a UFO for myself."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "And I never seen anything move like"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "that. I was standing outside of my"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "balcony in at my apartment in Sherman"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Oaks and saw two just move and stand"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "maybe about 500 yards in front of me and"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "just hovering just slightly above my"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "balcony. And then maybe about 10 minutes"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "later, a black helicopter came swooping"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "um in and stood far to the right"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "adjacent of it about maybe 300 to 500"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "yards. And it just hovered above my"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "apartment for about a good 20 25 minutes"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "or so. And then they proceeded to leave"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "in order as they came. And"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:54", "text": ">> but the black triangular craft saw it"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "one time and it freaked me out cuz I"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "actually saw it. We were maybe 12 people"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "and we're there there was like little"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "snacks out. We had our little drinks."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "No, there was probably like uh I guess"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "12 people and it got late. It started"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "getting past 10:30 and since people"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "lived in some of the people lived in"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Montreal, some people started saying,"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "\"Hey guys, you know, good night.\" And so"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "we I think from we went from 12 to 9"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "people and uh we're all there. It it was"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "a nice evening in September. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "that cold and it was a clear sky. I"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "mean, there was not one cloud in the"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "sky. And at a certain point, it got to"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "11 something at night. And one of the"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "girls that was there goes, \"Hey guys,"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "it's almost 11:11.\""}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "That's what she yelled. And so we're"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "like, \"Oh, that's cool.\" And I'll never"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "forget it. I look up and we were all"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "kind of uh we all for some reason looked"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "up"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "and uh there was you know when you see"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "something coming in from the horizon"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "this was not from the horizon. This was"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "in straight field of view like I had a"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "clear right in the center of the sky and"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "I'm looking right at nothing. I'm"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "looking at a black sky with obviously a"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "few stars and and something came in. It"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "almost looked like it came into the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "atmosphere cuz it it made a roaring"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "sound like you know when you see the"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "space shuttle coming in and it starts to"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "the the the heat from the atmosphere. It"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "kind of looked like that but it was not"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "as long. It was just like a it just came"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "in. So I'm like we all went like what it"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "it ju and it was a black it was"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "perfectly triangular and it just quietly"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "because it made the sound it was like an"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "initial orange light that went around it"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "and then it just went"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "dark and it just flew right over the"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "house and we all we all kind of we all"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "look like I know this it you know"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "everybody's like why didn't you film"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "that? It happened so fast that we were"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "just like, \"Oh my god, like that's"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "happening and that's it. It's gone.\" You"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "don't A lot of people get frustrated"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "when people say, \"Oh, well, why didn't"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "they take a video of it or why didn't"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "you take a picture of it?\" It's just"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "that fast. You don't know that's about"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "to happen. That happened to me when, you"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "know, I had my sighting here. Um, where"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "I saw this triangular craft clearly over"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "my head, like I thought it was a"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "helicopter at first, like sort of"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "rearing its belly. I couldn't make sense"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "of what I was seeing."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> And it didn't make a sound."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": ">> So, I was very confused and then I was"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "like, \"Oh, my phone.\" But that first"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": ">> 10, 15 seconds, I was"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": ">> actively trying to figure out whether or"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "not it was a craft that I knew, you"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "know, before I even reached for my"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "phone. got it and then it it turned to"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "its side and sort of I got a different"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "view from it. But I I know that feeling"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "as well."}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": ">> Well, it's funny that it just made me"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "think about something that guy Chris in"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "Ontario I remember I said did you take a"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "picture when it was like he goes I'll"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "never forget he goes Luigi he goes if"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "that if the thought of taking a picture"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "would have came to me he goes I would"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "have got the best picture in the history"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "of the world of something like that. He"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "goes, \"There was not a second that my"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "brain was not trying to figure out what"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "am I looking at.\""}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": ">> Hey, I was about 8 years old and I was"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "alone at home on the farm. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "else had gone. I was riding my bike on"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "the clay driveway and I look up and"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "there's like a triangle like it looked"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "like a sticker, like a black sticker"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "that was just stuck in the sky. It was"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "huge."}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "And I look down and I'm actually"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "floating off the ground and my toes are"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "pointed towards the ground. My arms are"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "level like my body, but they weren't out"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "sticking. And it just kept looking at"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "this triangle and then it just rotated"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "and slowly moved off the top of the pine"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "trees. And then I looked down and I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "still standing on the ground again."}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "So, I don't know what it was, but ever"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "since then, there's been like"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "occurrences that happen where I will see"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "things of different shapes, sizes."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> Was the last uh last year uh it was late"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "at night. It was me and my fiance just"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "kind of just hanging out back and"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "hanging in the kitchen, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "drinking some wine. It was Saturday"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "night. It's probably about 1:00."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "my fiance, you know, we had the back"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "door open and just going again going in"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "and out and my fiance comes out and"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "she's like halfway out the back door and"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "she's like, \"Babe, is that plane?\" And I"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "come out and immediately I see this"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "light and I say, \"Yeah, it's plane.\" And"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "immediately I said, \"No, it's not a"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "plane.\" It was so low. It was literally"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "a light just almost appeared out of the"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "darkness. And as it came closer, it was"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "literally a triangle with three lights"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "underneath it."}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> It was a UFO that was off Catalina"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Island, which I said, and so he has a"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "photo, a video of it where it's a"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "triangle and you can see it. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "he's on a boat. So he's himself and then"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "his partner uh is on the island and so"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "they see this UFO so they cross"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "triangulate it and then the Coast Guard"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "sees it as well. So you're getting three"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "different points of view which we all"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "want and need right. So then at three"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "different areas saying what the hell is"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "over top of your boat? And so he watched"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "it I believe come from out of the water"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "and then it was above him but when he"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "got it on video it was above him."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> Is this daytime or night time?"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> Night time."}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:03", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And so when he's telling this,"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "first of all, when I read the data"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "before I go on, I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:07", "text": ">> cool."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> Like this is, you know, and then I look"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "at like the rundown of like, okay, let's"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "look at the back end, right? Let's see"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "if they were doing any type of uh"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "explosions. Were they doing any type of"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "flare activity? Because it's obviously"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "the Coast Guards are there, right? And"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "there's tons of military activity,"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:23", "text": ">> um,"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": ">> exercises,"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": ">> right, off Catalina Island. So we look"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "and only thing that day in those couple"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "days were low barge explosions. And so"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "everything was like in the ground or in"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "the water. They weren't above. And so we"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "knew that it couldn't be that."}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": ">> Yeah. So um this happened when I was"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "like 12 years old. I was staying at my"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "grandmother's house with my father and"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "my family. And we were driving home from"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "some family gathering. It might have"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "been 10 11:00 at night. And as we were"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "approaching my grandmother's house, you"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "know, it was sort of like a relatively"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "hilly kind of area and you could see her"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "house, you know, far off in the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "distance, a good half mile away, a"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "little bit down the hill. And from the"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "backseat of the car, I could see the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "house, but in the sky behind it, I could"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "see this perfect clear shape of like a"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "triangle spacecraft with a glowing"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "lights at each end and one in the"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "center. And I remember thinking to"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "myself like, that's a UFO."}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "I'm from Halifax, Nova Scotia. On"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "January 11th, 2020, I was at an"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "electronic music festival in Costa Rica"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "named Elcaso. It was held at Laenda,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "which is an amphitheater in the jungle."}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "While heading back from the bar, I"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "noticed about 40 or 50 people pointing"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "towards the sky. When I observed the"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "sky, I could clearly see multiple black"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "triangle-shaped aircraft with lights on"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "each corner and one in the center, all"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "amber colored. As I stood there"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "observing them, I could see they were"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "all flying in the exact same direction,"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "the same speed with like they were in"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "tandem. Sometimes there would be one"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "lagging behind and it sort of zipped to"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "catch up. You'd see groups of three to"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "10 craft at a time and they all just"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "seemed to be moving like they were had"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "the same hive's mind or something. They"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "also seemed to be quite large cuz they"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "didn't appear like a dot in the sky like"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "a plane does but unusually large after I"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "thought about it. They appeared to be"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "two or three stories high also and there"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "had to be at least 50 to 70 of them as I"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "thought about it afterwards. I swear to"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "you it is absolutely true what I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "saying. There was a minimum of 50, but"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "more likely 70 black triangles, all"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "identical, all flying from south to"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "north, basically from Panama towards"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "Mexico."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "Any more information you need, please"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "let me know and I'd be happy to provide"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "it. It is absolutely true and there is"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "multiple other witnesses, at least 50 to"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "100 other people that seen the same"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "thing as I did. Hi, my name is Tom. Um"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "me and my sister were camping one time"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "in the mountains and uh we were this"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "area was full of is a deep canyon area"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "and we were just sitting down watching"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "the lake and the river and uh we looked"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "up and we noticed a bright orb of some"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "kind. We thought it was a helicopter at"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "first, but as soon as we looked at it"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "and decided to go back on the other side"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "of the canyon wall,"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "and disappeared. And then about 3 hours"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "later, just before dark, uh, TR3B,"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "similar to a TR3PB"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "triangle craft was up the atmosphere"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "and it had like three circles underneath"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "the bottom of it that filled in the"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "whole entire bottom of the craft and it"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "just floated there for a bit and then"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "took off. The next day I was in the"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "bathroom at the campground sitting there"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "and uh heard another noise that exactly"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "sounded similar to the one from the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "previous day. And I got done with my"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "business, walked out the door and the"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "same exact craft was inside the canyon."}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "I'd say at least maybe 200 feet above"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "our campsite. You can actually throw a"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "rock and probably hit it. It just"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "hovered there. It took up the it"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "basically covered up the entire river"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "which the river is about maybe thousand"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "yards wide. Um and then it just floated"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "on up and took off and disappeared."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "Nothing ever happened after that."}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "Recently I came across"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "um somebody who watches these videos. He"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "reached out to me on Instagram. His name"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "is Justin. And"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "he he captured something incredible."}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "He captured a triangular what appears to"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "be a triangular craft being escorted by"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "one of these orbs. Now, is it three orbs"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "being escorted by another orb or a"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "triangular craft? I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "dark."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "But uh we're going to hear from Justin"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "here. And I thought this was really"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "interesting because this is also a lot"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "like what I saw. I also asked Justin to"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "describe into detail what happened that"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "night, what it was he saw. And here is"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "Justin now. So, this is the full clip. I"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "did bump the exposure to get a better"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "look at it. And after this clip rolls,"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "I'm going to actually show you where"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "this experience happened and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "to walk you through it a little bit"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "better. And at the end, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "slow it down and zoom it in for you to"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "get a good look at it. So, this is my"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "backyard. This is actually where I was"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "at when the formation appeared above me."}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "I was chilling in my chair just looking"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "out at the sky, which this direction is"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "southeast. So, I was looking up in this"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "area and I heard the strangest noise"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "that came from this direction and the"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "triangle formation phased in right above"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "my house right about there where that"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "bird is right now."}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "and then it flew over the front of my"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "house"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "over that direction."}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "So, the whole experience only lasted"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "maybe 20 seconds. I filmed 18 seconds of"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "it, but I'm going to try to describe the"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "sound that I heard. It was like a joy"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "kind of like weird like if you take a"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "doors stop, the spring ones, and fling"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "it and then add like electricity to it."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "That's kind of what it sounded like. And"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "it was just so wild. And in that video,"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "there's the three in the formation."}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "There's actually a fourth one that's to"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "the side of it. And it's completely"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "locked in with the three. It's moving"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "with them. And I wish I could have seen"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "how it disappeared, but it was just"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "moving so fast that it flew across the"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "sky and I was unable to see it anymore."}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "So, here's the clip slowed down to 3/10"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "speed. I zoomed it in so you can get a"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "good look so you can see the three in"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "the triangle and the fourth one. It's so"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "crazy how they're just moving in lock"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "step."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "And I will apologize for the shakiness"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "right here. It did happen very rapidly."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "And luckily, I had my finger on my"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "record button on my binoculars ready to"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "go or I would have missed this entire"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "experience. That's how quickly it"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "happened. So, this is about to be the"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "end of this little clip, and I'd love to"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "hear your thoughts on it."}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> Incredible sighting."}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "The fact that it made a noise when it"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "phased in is also really interesting. I"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "mean, you look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "Does that look like a plane to you? And"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "why would it be escorted?"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": ">> Hey, I'm watching your alien being final"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "warning. humanity lerta files part 4 and"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "in there you talk about uh the ships not"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "being triangle I disagree I have been"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "implanted since an infant up in New York"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "and they have followed me down to South"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "Carolina my neighbor without knowing"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "told me there was a triangular ship over"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "my house and it was the same time when I"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "woke up there were markings on my legs"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "always leaving triangular three"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "triangular bruises is um like they have"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "three fingers. So they they"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "bruise in a triangle shape, three dots."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Um every time I wake up, I live alone."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "Nobody's in my house. Nobody else has"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "keys. And I wake up and I find incision"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "cuts and always three triangle dots."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "One guy was so stunned by this huge"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "triangular shaped craft that he was"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "witnessing that he leapt into his car"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "and started trying to chase it. Driving"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "along the road, keeping it in view with"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "his family in the back screaming at him"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "to stop because they saw it too and and"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "were scared whereas he was excited. And"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "in this same encounter, there was a a"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "farmer who saw this this craft very low"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "and he thought it's so low he thought it"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "maybe it landed in one of his fields and"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "he went up to the field and I think I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "I'm trying all the cows in the field"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "were standing in a circle like facing"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "each other completely silent. There was"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "no UFO there, but they were all just"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "doing that like"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "straight out of the X Files. And and so"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "you have things like that and you're"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "thinking, well, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": ">> Yeah, that is terrifying. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "don't I don't think there are very many"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "uh unsettling things cows could do uh"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "other than standing in a circle like"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "some type of weird some type of weird"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "ritual,"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:24", "text": ">> you know? That that reminds me actually"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "of like the Belgian UFO wave a little"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "bit."}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "Mass sightings of a triangular craft"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "with lights on each end were first"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "reported in Belgium from 1989 to 1990."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "People reported over 2600 sightings in"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "only 6 months time. This was known as"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "the Belgian UFO wave. One of the most"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "notable incidents during this period"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "occurred on the night of March 30th,"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "1990. It began with a member of the"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "French armed forces, Mr. Ranken"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "reporting seeing three unusual lights"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "attached to the underside of a"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "triangular object. His observation was"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "later confirmed by a patrol unit and"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "detected on radar systems. Chief of"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "operations of the air staff General"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "Wilfred De Bruer then deployed multiple"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "F-16s to intercept the object."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:22", "text": ">> 30 and 34th March. Um, we had an"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "observation on the uh radar and in"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "addition a visual observation on the"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "ground confirmed by the police."}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:34", "text": ">> Although this is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "reported UFO sightings in history, the"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "media still chocked it up to, in their"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "words, mass hysteria."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "But De Bruer still believes otherwise."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "He's quoted, \"I can conclude with"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "confidence that the observations during"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "what is now known as the Belgian wave"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "were not caused by mass hysteria. The"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "witnesses interviewed by investigators"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "were sincere and honest. They did not"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "previously know each other."}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "Many were surprised by what they saw"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "today. They are still prepared to"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "confirm their unusual experience.\""}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "Then there's the Southern Illinois"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "incident in 2000. Over several towns,"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "multiple police officers from different"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "departments independently reported a"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "huge slowmoving triangular craft. And"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "who can ignore the Phoenix lights of"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "1997"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "where thousands witnessed the colossal"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "V-shaped craft, a sentinel in the sky?"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "Well, very interesting you should say"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "that because there was talking of the X"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "Files and spooky coincidences."}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "This this wave of sightings, the Cosford"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "incident, took place late on the night"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "of March 30th and in the early hours of"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "March 31st, 1993."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "And of course, as I was investigating"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "this, something was was kind of gnoring"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "at the back of my mind, and I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "quite put my finger on it until"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "afterwards, I realized, wait, this is 3"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "years to the very night to the very"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "night after those those Belgium"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "sightings. And there were absolutely"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "similarities in the shape of the the"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "craft. Sometimes the behavior this"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "ability apparent ability of it to move"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "from a very low speed to high max speeds"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "in an instant with no sonic boom. Lou"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "Alzando would would call this the you"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "know one of the five observables. And we"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "didn't have that terminology at the"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "time, but we knew what it was because it"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "it cropped up in cases like this. And I"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "remember one of the Air Force witnesses"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "telling me that this thing moved very"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "slowly, maybe 35, 40 m an hour, uh, with"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "a low frequency humming sound that he"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "said was deeply unpleasant. You could"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "feel it as well as hear it rather like"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "getting too close to a like a"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": ">> a generator or something."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": ">> A generator. a bass speaker at a rock"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "concert, something like that, where you"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "feel the sound going through your body."}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "He said it was like that. And and this"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "is an Air Force guy telling me this like"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "just a few hours after he saw it. And he"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "said from that very slow speed, suddenly"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "it just went away to the horizon like in"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "in an instant. And he said, \"Nick,\" and"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "this was maybe, I don't know, just five,"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "six hours afterwards, we were on the"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "phone, his voice was still shaking. And"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "he said, \"Nick, I've been in the Air"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "Force 8 years. I see obviously fast"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "attack helicopters, milked jets, like"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "it's my job. I've never seen anything"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "like this before in my life.\""}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": ">> Hey, what's up? Uh, my name is Max. I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "from London. And uh this one night, I"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "think I was like 14, 15 years old, um I"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "was in the car on the highway with my"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "dad and my sister and we just visited my"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "auntie in the hospital. We were having"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "some kind of argument in a car. I don't"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "remember what it was exactly, but there"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "were tears and tensions were high and we"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "were the only car on the road. And uh as"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "we were driving under street lights, I"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "saw above us as we were approaching um"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "this triangular craft um one big light"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "in the middle and one light on each"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "point of the triangle. Um and we just"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "slowly passed under it. It was, you"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "know, it's like if I was standing on the"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "road and I had a golf ball or a tennis"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "ball, if I threw it, I think I could"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "have hit it. It was like that low. And"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "we just drove right underneath it."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "Everybody in the car shut up. Uh, we all"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "saw it. I said to my dad, \"Did you see"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "that?\" And he just never responded."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:54", "text": ">> Hi, my name is Nathan. I'm from North"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "Carolina, the East Coast. And about 22"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "23 years ago, we were driving from our"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "tiny little town, Whiteville,"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "to a slightly larger city, Wilmington,"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "North Carolina. And I was in the back"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "seat. I was probably 14 or 15 at the"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "time. My brother and I looking out the"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "right side of the car saw these three"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "triangular"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "ships, planes, aircraft of some sort"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "that were floating perfectly still. They"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "were probably 30 or 40 feet higher than"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "the water tower. So they might have been"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "100t in the air, 110 ft in the air,"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "something like that."}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "And they were in like a perfect"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "triangular pattern, the three of them."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "They had a light under each corner and a"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "slightly bigger light under the c in the"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "center. We thought, \"This is crazy.\""}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "Neither one of us said anything when we"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "first saw them. And then we passed them"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "and we got out of sight of them and I"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "was like, \"Did you see that?\" My brother"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "was like, \"Oh my gosh, yeah. Did you see"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "that?\" We talked and kind of confirmed"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "what we saw. The three triangles with"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "the lights on the bottom. They looked"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "like dark dark dark craft with just"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "these lights. They weren't very bright"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "lights either. They weren't like shining"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "on the ground below them or anything."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "Um, and they were over this opening,"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "this little field that was out there."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "Got back and we knew a guy through the"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "church that we were a part of that"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "worked for or probably still works for"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "as far as I know, a company called Pratt"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "Whitney, which does uh defense"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "contracting. and he designed um aircraft"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "controls or government aircraft, I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "guessing military aircraft and things"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "like that. Um and wasn't allowed to talk"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "about his work very much obviously"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "because of the nature of his job. And a"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "few days later, we thought to ask him"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "about this thing we saw. So we were"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "like, well, what was it? Cuz it was"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "silent. It looked like these three"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "triangles with these lights and this"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "pattern. And then he changed his look to"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "be a little more inquisitive. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "look like threatened or scared or"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "anything. He just looked and he just"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "said, \"Uh, I'm sorry, I can't talk about"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "that.\" And we were like, \"What?\" And"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "then we asked a couple more detailed"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "questions. We're like, \"Is the"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "government testing planes or is is there"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "anything that your company is doing with"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "this?\" He's just like, \"I couldn't I"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "can't talk about that.\" That's all he"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "would say for the next two or three"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "minutes until we finally decided like,"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "\"We're not getting anything out of him.\""}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "And then we just let it go. Years and"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "years later, my brother Daniel and I"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "find out that these sightings are really"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "common. That there's this ship that has"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "been labeled the Dorito or the Triangle."}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "This aircraft that has been cited"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "hundreds if not thousands of times"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "across the world. Um sometimes as an"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "individual aircraft, sometimes in these"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "small flight patterns and we've only"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "recently in the last five or six years"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "really confirmed that we are not crazy."}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "And you know, 20 some years ago, we"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "really saw what we thought we saw. So,"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "thanks for letting me share my story."}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "Uh, y'all keep crushing it. I love what"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "you're doing, man. Take care."}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:07", "text": ">> I have a buddy who was in Army Public"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "Affairs. This was about 2015 time. He"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "was up at Groom Lake, Area 51. He was"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "with some colonels near the Chow Hall."}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "And every time there's a classified"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "airframe flight, they clear the flight"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "line, close the windows, nobody's"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "allowed to look cuz he's with these"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "colonels. They're allowed to observe the"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "flight line. We talked about this last"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "night, but on the the flight line, he"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "sees a huge black triangle and it just"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "takes off at incredible speeds"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "vertically. Doesn't disturb any of the"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "dust around it. So, that might be the"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "times where, hey, the legacy program"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "gets to use some of the, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "air strips, gets to test some airframes."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> That's that was at Area 51."}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": ">> Yeah, Grim Lake."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:46", "text": ">> Hey guys, um this 4th of July, I was"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "heading to the gym. It would actually"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "technically be the 5th because it was"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "like 12:03 a.m. in the morning. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "driving down a road which has some trees"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "in a neighborhood. And I look up and I"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "see three lights"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "completely"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "flat at the same level, meaning they're"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "the same size. And I don't really"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "immediately register how large it is. So"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "I just make my turn like normal. And"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "then my brain catches up and it's clear"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "that this is a large thing. So I"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "immediately turn and try to find where"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "the lights were and they were right"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "above the tree line as I was turning. So"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "I kind of knew where they were. I moved"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "down the street and I see it from what"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "appears to be an out attitude up angle"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "and I could see the three lights were"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "part of a large triangle and in the"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "center of the triangle there were"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "shifting colored lights."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": ">> Hey, this is Gab from Canada."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "about 2016"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "on the north Canadian shore of Lake"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "Erie, I saw a big black triangle flying"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "over the lake and it looked like it had"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "three lights on it. Me and my girlfriend"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "just stood there and watched it while it"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "sort of came near to us and"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "we didn't know what it was. We we walked"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "away and we felt kind of odd the rest of"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "that night. And uh I've been hearing a"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "lot of stories about these black"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "triangles now, so I thought I'd report"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "Thank you to everybody who supported"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "this channel in 2025 and beyond. I'm"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "eternally thankful and grateful for all"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "of your support. You've been the most"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "welcoming and supportive audience by far"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "on the internet in this topic. And I"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "appreciate I appreciate everybody who's"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "become a member throughout the year to"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "check out our behind-the-scenes videos"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "and all the people who've just even"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "become a part of the Discord family who"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "we chat with almost every day. It's been"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "a really special journey and pardon the"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "cliche, but we're only getting started."}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "Um, we've got a lot of plans for 2026"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "and obviously as we've heard so many"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "times, the aliens have a lot of plans"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "for 2027. So, we got to get a move on."}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "We'll see you in 2026. This is a prop,"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "by the way. This is not a real"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "cigarette, so don't uh don't don't"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "worry. All right. Just a prop. Okay."}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "All right. All right."}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "That's a wrap. 2026, baby. 2025. That's"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "a wrap."}]

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This is"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "possibly a LAR, possibly fake, but"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "obviously we're going to treat it as we"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "treat everything here with a constant"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "suspension of disbelief and just kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "looking at it without a filter, without"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "a bias, and reading through it and see"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "if there's any connections to be made"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "because it is a very interesting"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "document indeed and a lot of you have"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "requested it. So, I thought why not give"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "it a shot. But definitely don't take"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "this as the truth. Allow yourself to be"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "transported. take it at best as fiction"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "and strap yourselves in because this is"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "an interesting read through and I do"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "look forward to hearing your thoughts"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> Hi, my name is Brennan and uh I'm from"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Mississippi. This happened back in May"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "of 2016 just outside the city of Corinth"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "when I was 14 years old. My friends and"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "I have been skateboarding outside around"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "8:00 p.m. We were about to go in go back"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "to our house, go to bed. We all live"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "near each other and uh they went inside"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "for some water. I decided to stay out"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "near the road. I noticed that what I"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "thought was a bright star though on the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "western horizon. It was unusually"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "bright. So I kept watching it. It"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "started moving towards me and I was"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "like, \"Okay, it's a plane.\" Cuz you"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "know, we get a lot of planes in our"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "area. But before I know it, it got"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "closer. The light got super bright and"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "before I realized it, this massive"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "diamond shaped craft was gliding over"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "me. No sound at all. 50 to 100 ft above"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "me with four white lights on each"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "corner. This thing, I'm not even lying,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "was one to two football fields long. 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But after that, it uh rose towards"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the east and disappeared in an instant,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "like flashed and disappeared. I remember"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "standing there gaslighting myself. I was"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "like, \"That didn't just happen, but I"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "know what I saw.\""}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Before we get into the video, a quick"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "word from our sponsors. You know, most"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "people don't realize how much of their"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "personal information is just sitting out"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "there. Not just on social media. 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Okay, now there's been a"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "bit of a canon event here on this"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "channel, which was early on last year,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "roughly the same time last year."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Interestingly enough, I read through"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "what appeared to be some type of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "whistleblower who came clean on 4chan."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Now, obviously, you know, 4chan goes"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "without saying, a lot of a lot of manure"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "over on that site, obviously, but this"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "one sparked some interesting"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "conversations and debates within the UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "realm. And for myself, I think actually"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "created a lot of sort of puzzle pieces"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "that I was able to fit into the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "phenomenon. namely this idea of like a"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "system"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "that was sent here on Earth to monitor"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and help life sort of evolve, but a"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "system nonetheless, something that is"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "probably some advanced AI system."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Because listen, if I was a super"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "advanced species, billions of years more"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "advanced than anything on Earth, I would"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "probably not be seeding these planets"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "myself. I would have had the technology"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "to bounce around the universe at will"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "and I would have found a 100red trillion"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "exoplanets all capable of primitive"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "life. And instead instead of living"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "underground"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "in some type of shelter or in some type"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "of protective suit, it would be much"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "easier to preserve life by taking the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "primitive native species of that planet"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "and inserting my DNA into it somehow"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "genetically and then monitoring it and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "sort of giving it all the tools uh"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "necessary for it to evolve. But I would"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "also probably run a bunch of tests on"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "these planetary petri dishes, if you"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "will. And so for me that filled a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "plot holes. Now I do still reserve"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "skepticism for this theory. And I do"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "still acknowledge that this theory"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "doesn't absolutely"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "it isn't a all-encompassing theory. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "not a blanket theory that explains"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "everything, but it could explain maybe"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "40 to 50% of what people have been"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "experiencing, including abductions,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "including sightings, including even"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "sightings over nuclear facilities or"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "radar facilities, uh, due to the fact"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "that these might just be some type of,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "you know, autoimmune system response to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "us detonating nukes and it's trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "take care of the planet, so therefore it"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "shuts things down. I don't know. all"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "very interesting to me and I thought you"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "know this is good to keep in mind and to"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "see if anything else can fit this sort"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "of hypothesis that we're generating"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "as time goes on and this read through"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "folks seems to be one of those things."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "So you know like this video subscribe"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "hit the notification bell let's get into"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "it. It starts with a rather"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "uh aggro title here. It says you wanted"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "disclosure. I am a whistleblower"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "recently quote unquote retired from the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "inside"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "and you're only getting part of the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "truth. This appeared on r/foss"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "by Rya 15510."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Okay. Rhea."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "And it starts like this. Hi."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "So, I heard y'all want disclosure. All"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "right. Hope you have time for this"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "because there's a lot."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Grab a coffee or maybe get comfy with a"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "pillow somewhere. I've been watching the"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "news and hearing a lot of things I know"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "to be true, shockingly being talked"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "about openly by some higher-ups in a"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "documentary. So, I figured what the hell"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "documentary he's referring to is, and I"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "say he, but you know, he or she is"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "referring to is most likely Age of"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Disclosure. a lot of government heads"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "talking about disclosure, the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "militarization of aliens and yada yada."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Also, it is not lost on me, folks, that"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "because I'm reading this, I might"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "actually just be propagating some type"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "of LAR, scop, whatnot. So, I do"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "encourage you to actively retain"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "skepticism or maybe passively for now,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "but definitely don't take this as the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "truth. And I do realize that people"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "watching this video and listening to my"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "theories on the phenomenon might also"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "just be extrapolating on what I've"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "already said to further,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "you know, continue this lar. I that"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "isn't lost on me. This might all just be"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "aimed at this channel knowing that I"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "might read this and and that isn't lost"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "on me either. Okay? So, don't take it as"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the truth, but is what it is. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "entertaining nonetheless. So, I got to"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "read it. I mean this this is"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "interesting. You can call me Rhea. Not"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "my real name obviously, but it will do."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "A little about me. I spent about 8 years"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "in the military to pay for college and"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "then another decade plus in a part of"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the US intelligence component that does"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "not officially exist. On paper, I worked"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "for a boring sounding office in a"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "department most people have never heard"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "of. In reality, it was a compartment"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "inside a compartment or the odd stuff of"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "a certain nature."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "got routed. My actual specialty is"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "electrooptics,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "lasers, sensors,"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "EO imaging systems, the math and"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "hardware behind how we detect things at"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "a distance and in some cases put energy"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "on them. I'm going to just pause right"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "there real quick because I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "referencing the 4chan whistleblower"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "quite a bit. Uh I've done a threepart"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "series I believe you guys can check out."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "I'll leave the link below to that. But"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "in that he, you know, people were asking"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "where should we look as far as"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "technological advancement goes that"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "would point us to some type of reverse"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "engineering, you know, alien technology."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "And the answer that this person in the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Q&A was given was lasers."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "And so the first thing we mention here"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "is lasers. again. Is this just playing"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "off that LAR piggybacking or you know"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "interesting nonetheless that he mentions"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "lasers first?"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "That is what I trained in what I did"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "most of my serious work on once I was"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "off the deployment treadmill. So when I"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "say I know something about directed"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "energy weapons and weird sensor returns,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "that's not I heard this from a friend of"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "a friend. That was my day job. Most of"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "my career was boring in a way. Dangerous"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "jobs are boring. Long days in windowless"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "rooms, Iraq and Afghanistan in the early"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "years doing the usual mix of SIG int and"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "human int. That's signals intelligence"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "and human intelligence support."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Phone records,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "pattern of life workups,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "building target packets on people"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "who'd never know my name but might"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "notice a drone overhead letter."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "After I got out of the uniform, I slid"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "over to contractor work, then got pulled"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "into the permanent government side."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Not unusual for a lot of people working"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "in intelligence or signals. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "know, signals obviously dealing with"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "radar."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "Big companies like Loheed, Martin, etc."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "all deal with radar. So it would make"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "sense that you would go from that to"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "getting a fatter paycheck, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "moving into the private sector and then"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "being able to retain all the clearances,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "etc. For a long time, my world was very"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "normal. Counterterrorism, sanctions,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "invasion,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "shady cargo, going through weird ports,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "stuff like that."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "After that, foreign missile tests and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "what you've probably seen described"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "publicly as space domain awareness."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "basically watching dots move around the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "sky and trying to decide whose dots they"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "were and what they were doing."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "The weird part started when I was"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "detailed to a small inter agency working"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "group looking at what was called"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "anomalous aerospace and undersea"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "systems."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Translation: Things detected and showing"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "up on sensors that did not match any"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "known platform, did not behave like"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "clutter, and did not go away when you"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "changed radar modes or swapped optical"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "systems. I was there because I"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "understood both sides of the equation."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "The physics of the sensors and the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "intelligence context. You get taught"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "very quickly to treat anything"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "unexplained as a glitch, a calibration"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "issue, operator error, software"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "artifacts, anything that keeps your"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "world tidy."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "You get used to hearing weird glitch as"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "a catch-all. Except after a while you"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "notice some of those glitches kept"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "showing up across different systems,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "different countries decades apart."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Same behaviors, same basic locations,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "same signature that never quite fits. At"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "some point, you either admit there is a"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "real pattern or you drive yourself crazy"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "trying not to see it. If you're useful"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "and you start asking the wrong questions"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "for long enough, someone eventually"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "pulls you aside, takes you to a skiff,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "takes your phone, has you sign your life"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "away again, and shows you the next layer"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "of the onion."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "This onion goes deep. I doubt that even"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "after years of briefings, I've been"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "exposed to anything below a few layers."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Even still, most of this is purposely"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "kept off NIPR and JWICS"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "and is done in person."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Not a huge military buff, so I'm going"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "to look that up."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": ">> Hey, let's do it."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> Okay. Um, what what does this stand for?"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "NIPR"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "and JWS"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "within military."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": ">> Sure. These acronyms come from US"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "military communications and network"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "systems. Here's what they stand for."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Nipper. This stands for non-classified"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "internet protocol router network. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "essentially the US Department of"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Defense's unclassified network used for"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "transmitting sensitive but unclassified"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "information. This stands for joint"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "worldwide intelligence communication"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "system. It's the top secret sensitive"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "compartmented information TSCI network"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "used by the US intelligence."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": ">> So okay, interesting. That seems and he"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "says even still most of this is"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "purposely kept off of those. So even"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "kept off of the compartmentalized"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "uh communications network."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "That network was probably the network"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "that was that uh Matthew Brown, the"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "whistleblower, was looking through when"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "he came across the, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "unagnowledged special access program"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "known as Immaculate Constellation,"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "which wasn't supposed to be on there."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "That is where I learned about the most"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "of what you're interested in here and"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "what seems to be bubbling to the surface"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "in the news lately. that when I learned"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "about what we call the council,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "yes, aliens, and I suspect you're not"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "likely to see a lot of what I know"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "mentioned, even by some who know it, who"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "have begun speaking out for reasons I'll"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "get to later."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Folks, this is where it gets"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "You know, as you know, recently we had a"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "whistleblower come on. Uh, Sergeant"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "First Class Jeremy Weekes"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "has uh, you know, graced us with his"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "story and his testimony. And one thing"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "that did stand out to me and also to"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "Linda Molton How years ago"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "was the mention of the council"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "uh, council of five. He put it, but"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "privately told me that, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "doesn't have to be five. He just that"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "was the impression that he had because"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "there were five beings in the room at"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "the time. But the council has also"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "mentioned in channeling"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "material from raw contact. I believe"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "this channeling of the being raw. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "council was often mentioned as well. So"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "interesting. I've never met them face to"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "face. Everything I know about them is"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "from briefings, documents, and one"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "secure video session that I honestly"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "wish I had skipped."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "But it lines up with too many"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "independent data points to just shrug"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "off as somebody's pet theory. The basic"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "story is this. Earth was noticed roughly"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "two billion years ago, long before"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "anything walked around on land. Not"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "because we're special, but because we"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "tripped a sensor. Or rather, life"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "tripped their sensors. You see, the"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "council is not a single species. It is a"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "collective of several advanced"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "interstellar, maybe even"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "interdimensional civilizations that run"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "long-term surveys of stars and planets"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "the way we run spy satellites. Huge"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "distributed arrays of instruments"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "working together, watching thousands of"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "star systems at once for millions of"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "years at a time. Their gear probably"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "makes the James Web telescope look like"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "a kid's backyard telescope."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "Also not unlike what we read about in"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "the alien interview with the domain, if"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "you remember that"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "about two billion years ago, those"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "instruments picked up bio signatures"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "here, chemical fingerprints in the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "atmosphere that meant something was"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "alive here. Atmosphere composition like"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "free oxygen and methane, spectral"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "fingerprints, chemical disequilibria"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "that scream there's metabolism happening"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "down there. You know the basics. At that"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "point, Earth went into a database as"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "interesting revisit later."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "Okay. Kind of uh we we kind of tripped"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "sensors, I guess, because primitive life"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "was forming."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Very interesting. Also,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "let me mean, does this feel like AI"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "wrote this?"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "There there are some portions of this I"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "it's hard to tell anymore because it's"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "getting really good at, you know, people"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "are getting good at prompting and"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "whatnot and AI is getting really great,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "but it's it's just the way it's"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "perfectly written. Most people can't"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "write perfectly. And so that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "take away from the fact that this is"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "real or not real or whatever it is. It"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "just I hate reading AI. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "about you."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "It kind of irks me unless it's like I"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "guess unless it's tastefully done. I"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "don't know."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "But you I hate when you can tell it's"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "AI. We'll put it that way. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "that last sentence of interesting"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "revisit later, uh reminds me of Douglas"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "Adams, the Hitchhiker Gu Hitchhiker's"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "Guide to the Galaxy. And if you look in"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "The Hitchhiker's Guide, which is this"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "repertoire for the entire universe at"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "your fingertips, it has enlarged, bold,"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "friendly letters on the cover. Don't"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "panic. And when you look up Earth where"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "we live, it simply says disappointingly"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "to, you know, Arthur Dent, the uh the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "protagonist of the story when he reads"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "it and searching for his own planet, it"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "says u"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "harmless and then it was updated later"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "on to say mostly harmless."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "So this kind of, you know, reading the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "interesting revisit later, uh has the"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "same ring to it."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "Standard procedure for them when a world"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "looks promising is pretty boring from"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "their point of view. They send automated"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "probes,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "not big crude ships like you see in"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "sci-fi movies, just small, tough, very"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "smart machines. Those probes come in"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "mostly target the oceans and set up"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "self-replicating facilities on the"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "seafloor. Those facilities use local"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "materials to build more facilities, more"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "probes, craft that can operate"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "underwater, in the air, in near space,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "and eventually avatars that can interact"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "with whatever life evolves."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "These biological or rather biomechanical"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "avatars are what some people who claim"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "to have been abducted have likely"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "experienced."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "Though they do have what we would call"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "ASI, these beings are not gods."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "They are technology and they aren't"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "perfect. They make mistakes, glitch out,"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "etc. Okay. U this is sounding an awful"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "lot like my pet theory uh based on the"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "original 4chan larer leak. Uh so John"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "vonoman was a scientist uh who had like"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "early AI concepts and nuclear weapon"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "design, game theory, all of this stuff."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "and he uh came up with a concept which I"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "tend to"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "think this might be something we're"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "interacting with which is the vonoman"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "probe which is essentially exactly what"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "is described here and what I've said"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "before this selfreplicating"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "probe that would be launched and landed"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "in you know these planets oceans and"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "that would use the local minerals and"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "materials to craft whatever it needs for"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "its survival or its mission."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "And so I think that's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "talking about here. 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But we seldom"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "consider the lifespan and concept of"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "time for a postbiological species could"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "be quite different than ours."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "Only our most astute thinkers in the"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "realms of geology, paleontology, and"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "cosmology think in terms of millions or"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "billions of years. Geological epochs,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "cosmological history. That is child's"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "play for the council, which has a"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "different concept of time, more"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "concerned with deep time, millions of"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "years at a stretch. As such, their"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "infrastructure is designed for that."}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "Again, this is uh"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "reminding me of like the domain and and"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "the alien interview where you know they"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "said they're trillions of years old or"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "whatever. It is an interesting thought"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "though to think that you know if we"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "invent AI if we are currently even in"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "the process of making some type of AI"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "then it's to be assumed in an infinite"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "universe that this AI does exist the one"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "that we're trying to make and in fact"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "whatever comes after that and you know"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "at some point in time"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "to us at least in our human perspective"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "it might look undistinguishable from"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "consciousness or what we call"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "consciousness. We might not be able to"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "distinguish God from AI at a certain"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "point and it will long outlive"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "biological life. And maybe that's"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "exactly what had happened multiple times"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "and maybe this AI had actually come back"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "to complete the circle and start"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "biological life again. Interesting"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "thought. So yes, a lot of TMOs,"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "transmedium objects, and impossible"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "accelerations you've heard about are"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "just their hardware doing its job."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "Maintenance, observation, sampling,"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "nothing heroic. The warp bubble/cubiary"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "effect was probably mastered by them"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "before our solar system even existed."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "It's old tech for them. Kind of like the"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "wheel is for us. Also, no, we are not"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "the center of anyone's universe. There"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "are about a billion planets in our"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "galaxy that are more or less like Earth."}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "Some just have microbes. Some have more"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "complex life. A smaller subset of those"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "have or once had civilizations. We are"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "just one more entry, a fairly recent one"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "in cosmological terms in a very large"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "survey."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "I can get behind this so far."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "Once early humans started doing"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "interesting things, we moved from planet"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "with life to planet with potential. All"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "right, so mostly harmless."}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "They have watched this same story unfold"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "in slightly different ways around a"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "thousand times from what I understand."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "Chemistry leads to biology. Biology"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "creates technology. Tool use, language,"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "agriculture, cities, industry, energy,"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "space travel. Somewhere in there, you"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "always hit the same fork. Either the"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "species figures out how to not blow"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "itself to pieces with energy densities"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "it increasingly has access to, such as"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "nuclear fishision, nuclear fusion,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "antimatter, and more exotic matter/"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "energy, or it wipes itself out."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Our situation worried them. We are a"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "little paradox. Extremely good at"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "cooperation and also extremely good at"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "organized violence. Our aggression stood"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "out. Cooperation plus violence isn't"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "unique, but we are very, very good at"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "both. And once you get to things like"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "nuclear power, that combo tends to end"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "very badly. They'd seen plenty of"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "variations of that play out over at"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "least a few billion years. About 10,000"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "years ago, our trajectory towards that"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "became clear, and there was a major"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "argument inside the council about what,"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "if anything, to do with us. One side"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "said the odds favored self-destruction."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "once we discovered and weaponized atomic"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "level energy technologies."}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "The other side argued we were worth"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "saving or at least worth understanding"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "better. The compromise was an"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "experiment,"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "one which ramifications as to why all of"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "this has been hidden for so long."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "Roughly 65,000 humans were removed from"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "Earth and relocated to what basically to"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "what is basically a preserve on a planet"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "around the star you know is 82 Aidani."}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "Internally we call those people arids."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "That star is in our cataloges and if you"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "feel like looking it up but the details"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "of the target planet are not public for"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "obvious reasons. pause right here folks"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "because something interesting happened"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "prior to this podcast about 20 minutes"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "before"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "I was doing some research"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "as one does trying to connect some dots"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "and I had asked even asked chatbt I was"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "like hey what's you know have we ever"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "heard of the arids before chatbt"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "responded with no uh their closest thing"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "mentioned in fiction was the aridian"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "kind of spelled similarly"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "and that is taken from a book called um"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "Project Hail Mary which there's an"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "adaptation with Ryan Reynolds or Ryan"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "Reynolds no Ryan Gosling made into a"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "movie right now that will be releasing"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "in March. So, I thought, what an"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "interesting"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "timing. That's the only sort of UFO lore"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "related"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "uh piece of information that we found"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "was this movie coming out soon. So, is"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "this, you know, some type of gorilla"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "marketing for that movie? Uh, the aliens"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "in that movie apparently are not"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "friendly and they're not what we're"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "going to be describing here in a second."}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "But something even more interesting"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "happened, folks."}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "I don't know about you, but I'm a big"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "big believer in synchronicity."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "That"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "synchronicities,"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "if you choose to,"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "can be quite magical to observe"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "and can have a profound impact on your"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "trajectory in life. If you choose to"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "navigate life through,"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "you know, the use of these"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "synchronicities in some way."}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "I have all these books. I have tons of"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "books laying around everywhere."}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "Magazines strewn across my office. It's"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "outer chaos and clutter and I like it"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "that way. But I had recently ordered"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "some books. Okay, I recently ordered"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "this one here. This is uh okay for your"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "eyes only. This is like it's it's it's a"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "spiralbound."}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "It's almost honestly almost incoherent."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "Just a bunch of information on different"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "alien types. And I thought, maybe"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "there's something in here that people"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "have overlooked. Maybe there's some"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "piece of information that's true or"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "maybe there's something that might be"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "good uh material for a read through."}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "Here at Area 52, I took this book,"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "folks. It was right there. There's"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "another one there actually sitting right"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "there. Another binder. I had not even"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "looked at it yet."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "I swear on everything that means"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "anything in my life. I pick this up as"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "I'm getting I'm putting the lights here."}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "I'm putting those lights there. And I"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "open this book. I literally just open"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "it. I don't I don't flick through. I"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "just opened it and I see this alien head"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "over here. And then on the left side, I"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "see a star map."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "Have a look right there."}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "right there off to the left of Zeta"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "Reticuli"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "82 Aidani."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "I'll tell you this,"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "I actively once I saw this, I gasped."}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "First of all, I I literally I was alone"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "and I was and I you know I said, \"Holy"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "shit.\" Um that's crazy. And so I thought"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "to myself, oh, maybe this is like"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "some prevalent lore within UFO"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "eupfology. And again, I'd look back and"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "see there's nothing nothing to find on"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "stuff. In fact, I started flipping"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "through this book to see if I could find"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "reference of this planet in this book."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "None. None that I could find."}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "And here a little note underneath says"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "uh the map was taken from crystal"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "storage device inside a crashed alien"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "ship which is interesting. We think of"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "looking glass or the yellow book etc."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "Just thought that was interesting. Not"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "saying it's true,"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "but the fact that this planet exists on"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "this star map related to this subject"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "and is nowhere else to be found. I"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "thought"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "might have raised my conviction level by"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "1%. Okay, I'm not going to go overboard."}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "But the synchronicity isn't lost on me."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "Uh, knocked my socks off. Just blew me"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "Insane. So, I wanted to share that with"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "you guys. As I would have looked through"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "all my magazines and my database and"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "everything that I've that I've purchased"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "over the years and I would not have"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "found anything"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "on that. And then I just opened this"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "random book that I just got. And there"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "it is. The the page that I opened."}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "Insane. Sorry. Sorry for the segue."}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "Thought that was worth mentioning. Alas,"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "65,000 humans removed from Earth and"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "relocated to this planet as a bit of an"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "experiment. Why, do you ask? Let's find"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "The Arids were started in a kind of"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "controlled paradise. Their world has a"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "large Their world has large dispenser"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "systems that can produce whatever basic"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "material needs they have. Food,"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "clothing, tools, building materials,"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "entire structures for habitation. Think"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "Star Trek replicators scaled up and"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "wired into the environment. In that"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "setup, nobody starves, nobody's homeless"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "in the way we understand it. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "spends their life chasing money just to"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "meet needs. This was just the Arid's"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "natural reality."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "The point from the council's view was to"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "remove material scarcity from the"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "equation and to see what humans do and"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "achieve when they are not spending most"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "of their energy bashing each other over"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "the head over resources. Meanwhile, the"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "rest of us stayed here on the control"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "planet dealing with scarcity, ownership,"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "money, hoarding, and the rise of"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "socopolitical systems based on scarcity."}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "All of the things that define Earth"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "civilization. Okay. interesting"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "experiment uh to have like the control"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "group here uh to grab a bunch of them"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "and put them over there, but also"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "explain why these beings and we'll get"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "to I'll save that for after this here."}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "The result according to what we were"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "briefed is that the Arids are now around"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "5,000 years ahead of us technologically"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "averaged out. Same species, same basic"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "biology, same starting point, completely"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "different trajectory because of"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "conditions."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "Nature versus nurture on a cosmic scale."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "For most of their history, they arid,"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "the arids thought they were native to"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "that world."}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "They only found out the truth roughly a"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "century ago in our time. They learned"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "they were uplifted, that their ancestors"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "were taken from Earth, and that they"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "have cousins here. Once they knew that,"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "some of them started coming back to"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "visit the original branch."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "This is where their story intersects"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "some of the UFO stories. You know, the"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "quote unquote aliens that look almost"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "exactly human are just that, human. They"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "are not hybrids, not clones, not"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "secretly angels or demons. They are aids"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "born around another star, showing up"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "here after being given a 10,000year head"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "start."}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "They have in some cases met with leaders"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "of certain countries and at least two UN"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "secretary generals both deceased."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "Now this is really interesting because I"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "am fascinated with you know these Nordic"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "type any humanlooking alien"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "because it leaves like a big gap there"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "like it's either you through"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "evolutionary convergence evolved exactly"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "like we did which probably impossible"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "highly unlikely"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "or there was some type of DNA a"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "relation, genetic modification,"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "experimentation on their behalf that"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "made us."}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "The other option obviously is time"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "travelers, right? That they're from some"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "type of distant future or other timeline"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "that they've come here. That would"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "explain why they look like us. The one"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "thing I never thought about, now you"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "know, we've thought of breakaway"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "civilizations here on Earth, like the"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "Atlanteanss, etc. up at the Antarctic"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "and whatnot, but"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "to raise a different alien or a"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "different type of human on an alien"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "planet is really interesting. And that"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "they would come back and that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "because of these replicators, they would"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "all have the same clothes,"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "which is interesting. They would live"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "under the same conditions, so they would"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "all kind of look alike. Very, very"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "fascinating this story. I I didn't fully"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "consider this being an option. And it"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "would also make sense why they are so"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "benevolent and like, \"Hey, loving. Gota"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "got to help your planet."}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "Peace and love, man. We're bohemian"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "aliens.\" Of course you are. You were"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "raised"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "in like a perfect enclosure."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "You know, it's like they went to private"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "school and we got, you know, some inner"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "city public school education. Not saying"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "it's a bad thing. You know, we're from"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "the school of hard knocks down here. Uh"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "yeah, but these uh they were raised in"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "captivity. So kind of funny actually."}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "Now we get to why this has been buried"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "for 80ome years. You have to think like"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "a senior US official in the 1940s"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "and50s. World War II has just ended. The"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "Cold War is starting. Everything is"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "viewed through capitalism versus"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "communism."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "Then someone puts a briefing in front of"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "you that says, \"In essence, there's a"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "group of humans living on another world"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "who have no money, no private ownership"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "in the way we structure it, automatic"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "systems that meet their basic needs. And"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "in that environment, they advanced"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "thousands of years faster than we have.\""}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "the men who built what we now call the"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "legacy program in the US. That sounded"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "less like interesting anthropological"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "data and more like a walking talking"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "advertisement for space communism."}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "It looked like the proof that communism"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "works better than the system that they"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "were trying to defend."}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "That and the ramifications of what could"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "happen if that ever got out terrified"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "them more than the existence of aliens"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "did. Though to be fair, they plenty had"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "their worldview rocked by the latter,"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "too."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "That's so human. That's so human. It's"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "so human that communism would scare the"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "leaders"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "who are trying to protect capitalism"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "more slightly more uh than than the"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "notion of aliens."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "So human. So the core of the coverup"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "story has never been aliens or even"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "technologies."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "It has been the systemic implications,"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "the idea that scarcity and ownership are"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "not hardcoded into reality, that they"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "are one possible way to run a society"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "and maybe not the optimal one."}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "That was seen as an existential"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "political threat in the 1940s and50s."}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "And some of the people who grew up in"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "that mindset are still steering parts of"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "the program today. Whoa. You know, we"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "often talk about this. We often talk"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "about how the leaders who know about the"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "program don't want it out because it'll"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "collapse the, you know, stock market"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "which will start chaos and riots in the"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "street and, you know, the world will be"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "shifted into some type of apocalypse."}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "What if it just destabilizes their idea"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "of what humanity is supposed to be?"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "And that's what they're afraid of. And"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "that's why they don't want it out here."}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "Not because we'll actually all suffer"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "from it, because they will."}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "I like that."}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "Now add in the famous crash retrieval"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "incidents. Roswell 47, Kexsburg 65, a"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "handful of other retrievalss around the"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "US and around the world. What we were"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "told is that most of those were not"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "accidents. They were tests and gifts."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "The council with aid input allowed"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "certain craft and systems to fall into"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "human hands in a controlled way. Enough"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "intact technology that a very motivated"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "and capable society could learn from it."}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "Not enough that it would instantly"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "rewrite everything."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "In fact, the Kexsburg landing, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "called a crash internally, was a direct"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "result of a meeting and gift agreement"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "made at Hollowman Air Force Base the"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "year prior. The idea was to see who did"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "what with it, who could figure it out,"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "who kept it secret, who tried to share,"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "who tried to weaponize it, and who"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "panicked."}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "Based on those results, the plan was to"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "pick one primary human partner to act as"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "a main interface for full council"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "contact and to begin a managed process"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "of reunifying Earth humans with the"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Arids and introducing us to the wider"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "community."}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "Very cool. Interesting test. And you"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "know, we hear about the idea of a lot of"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "these crashes being called donations."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "Even sites that you know are called the"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "giving fields and donation fields and"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "places where things would just land"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "almost almost as if they were just"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "gifts. You think of another gift and"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "this was brought up with my podcast with"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "um Sergeant Firstclass Weeks."}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "one of his messages that said, \"Return"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "our gifts.\""}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "Now, instinctively, I didn't just think"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "of the crash UFOs. I also thought of"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "things like the yellow book, things like"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "maybe the crystal mentioned in this"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "spiralbound book,"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "the Looking Glass, this type of"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "technology that might have been handed"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "to us."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "You can argue whether that is a good way"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "to do it. I am just telling you that is"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "the framework I saw laid out in the"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "1980s and90s during a brief period when"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "the cold war ended. There was a push to"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "finally disclose much of this. This was"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "initially proposed at meetings between"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "then US President Ronald Reagan and"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "Soviet leader Male Gorbachev at a summit"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "in Reikovic Iceland in 1986."}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "also discussed was getting rid of"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "nuclear weapons as had been urged by the"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "council."}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "In the end, it was decided to wait."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "There were two more US pushes for"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "disclosure between then and 2017 New"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "York Times article. One during the"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "Clinton administration and the other"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "during the transition between Obama and"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "the first Trump presidency."}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "Now, for the part that put the clock on"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "all this stuff you've been hearing"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "about, 2027,"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "etc."}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "First off, this is really interesting"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "because, you know,"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "I think they're going to be talking"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "about some directed energy weapons a"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "little bit later"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "and Reagan obviously a large purveyor of"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "the energy weapons."}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "Um, and what was known, I think,"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "unofficially as the Star Wars program"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "was to sort of arm these directed energy"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "weapons. Um,"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "and and and in hopes of like shooting"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "down ICBMs should they make their way"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "across the ocean or whatnot. And"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "something we're probably still working"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "very secretly on."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "About three years ago,"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "a species that is hostile to the council"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "found out about the Earth Project. They"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "are not part of the collective. They"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "resent the way the council handles"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "younger civilizations as they themselves"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "felt victimized by the council. They"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "also resent the credit the council gets"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "for successful cases. I have heard them"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "described as the jealous neighbors who"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "would rather break your toys than watch"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "you win."}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "That's interesting. Jealous of whom?"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "Why? What's above the council? Hm. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "we sometimes joke about this stuff"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "because again, it's the only way to stay"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "sane with this everyday knowledge and"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "integrate it into your civilian life of"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Thanksgiving dinner, Christmas shopping,"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "taking the kids to soccer practice, etc."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "Just as an insight, ever consider how"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "two of the biggest holidays of the year"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "involve gluttony, Thanksgiving, and"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "overconumption, Black Friday. When you"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "have the knowledge many have within the"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "program, stuff that is taken for granted"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "seems really weird with a symptom of the"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "now forced scarcity of our current"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "system."}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "Huh."}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "It's a little conspiratorial, but I dig"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "it. Anyway, back to the aliens. The"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "hostile group I mentioned decided to"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "spoil the experiment. This species is"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "ahead of us technologically but far"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "behind the council. Though they also"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "inhabit a relatively nearby star"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "cosmologically speaking. Their travel is"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "slower, less elegant and has to take"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "place in stages. Think of it as space"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "island hopping which is why the lead"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "time is so long. Okay."}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "Um this is also mentioned interestingly"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "enough by Charles Hall. He mentions that"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "some of these less advanced species have"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "to hop from planet to planet to get"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "here. So he this wouldn't be the first"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "time we hear of such um such a mode of"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "travel."}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "You probably want to know what they look"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "like physically based on the"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "descriptions we saw. They are about 5 ft"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "tall, segmented bodies, multiple limbs,"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "basically antlike in overall form."}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "Nothing subtle or humanoid about them."}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "Don't like that."}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "Um h"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "you don't hear about these creatures"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "that often, do you? We hear about the"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "mantis, but the antlike ones we don't"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "really hear about."}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "Is that because they're not here yet?"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "I do know of one case at least that"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "features"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "a similar being. In that case, it's not"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "public yet. So, that's interesting."}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "Huh. Also, Ender Game. Enders game"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "features bug-like antlike insects as"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "well. So, or Starship Troopers."}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "Um, there's something about bugs that we"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "are"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "also genetically predisposed to just"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "being grossed out by and want to squish."}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "Not saying it's related."}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "They launched an expedition towards"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "Earth with the staged goal of making a"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "mess. Cause chaos here. Damage the"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "experiment. Embarrass the council by"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "showing they cannot protect their own"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "projects due to internal disagreements."}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "basically exploiting internal fissurers,"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "turning small cracks of understanding in"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "the council into canyons, thus"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "destroying it. That's their hope at"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "least. The transit time means for us"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "they are only expected to arrive in"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "roughly 2 years from now with the 2027"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "holiday present no one asked for. That"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "news triggered a major debate within the"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "council. One group said the rules say"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "non-inference."}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "We watch and record what happens even if"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "it is ugly as we have done in the past."}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "The other group said, \"We effectively"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "created this situation by tagging and"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "monitoring this world. We have a moral"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "obligation not to not just watch a"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "civilization we've been studying get"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "smashed by somebody else's grudge. If"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "the council showed up in force, it would"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "not be much of a fight. Their"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "technology, relative to the ant species,"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "is like a modern carrier group versus"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "skilled archers on sailboats. The whole"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "thing would be over quickly and it would"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "also completely blow the point of"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "letting a young species find its own"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "way. It would also be a tremendous blow"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "to the human ego which the council is"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "well aware of."}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "I could take it."}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "Also, protecting our ego is a is a wild"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "reason not to save our lives."}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "Uh, so they arrived at a compromise. No"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "direct council fleets defending Earth,"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "no obvious intervention. Instead, they"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "would quietly arm us."}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "What they chose to give us are things"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "they roughly call scalarphase weapons."}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "We're talking directed energy weapons"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "here. Our vocabulary is not great here."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "They are not just high power lasers."}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "They interact with fields we do not"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "fully understand or fully have names for"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "yet. shift phases dump huge amounts of"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "energy from the vacuum into very"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "specific volumes of spaceime without a"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "conventional bright beam or explosion."}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "Compared to our current directed energy"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "weapons, they are an enormous leap. As"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "someone who spent years working with"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "lasers and optic systems, I can tell you"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "they sit so far off our current tech"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "tree that if you saw the damage"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "assessments from a pulse without"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "context, you would think they were"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "misprints. But compared to council"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "weapons, they are Nerf guns, training"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "wheels, per se."}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "Anyway, that decision set off another"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "big argument both among them and among"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "us. The obvious concern was simple. Once"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "the external threat is gone, what stops"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "us from turning these things on each"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "other? The same way we took nuclear"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "power and turned it into thousands of"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "warheads aimed at our own cities."}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "valid concern on behalf of the council."}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "On the US side, there were people saying"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "exactly that and some members of the"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "council argued that if we on Earth roll"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "out scalar systems across arsenals, the"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "first real test after the bugs are gone"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "will likely be some crisis where two"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "human governments start lighting each"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "other up with technology they do not"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "fully understand."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "Nah, we won't do that. Not a chance. The"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "counterargument which won was that"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "species level survival has to come"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "first. If humanity gets wiped out by"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "someone else's petty feud, then the"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "entire debate is academic. Also, if"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "humans fight this off themselves instead"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "of watching the council show up and save"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "the day, they will meet the wider"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "community uh as people who actually did"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "something, not as rescued primitives."}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "Human ego intact. and kill switch, if"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "you will, has been built into the tech"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "to disable it after the conflict, which"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "the council sees us winning."}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "If we then decide to use these weapons"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "against each other, they'll simply be"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "disabled until we humans have learned"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "enough to disable the kill switch,"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "which could be thousands of years from"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "now for all I know."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "Interjection."}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "Slight interjection here, folks. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "this post, by the way, on Reddit has"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "been locked so nobody can add any more"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "comments to it. And they did that not to"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "they didn't want to delete it. They even"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "mentioned like deleting it might have"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "just further perpetuated some conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "theory that this was true. So instead,"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "they locked it because, you know, it's a"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "lot of unfounded,"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "unverifiable anecdotal text at best."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "But a lot of the comments seem to say"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "the same thing, and I personally agree."}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "Why not stop these guys, these ant"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "people from getting here in the first"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "place"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "and we're none the wiser. We'll just we"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "won't know what happened. Blow them out"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "of the water while they're traveling."}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "This is a LAR. That seems like something"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "you might have overlooked or maybe you"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "weren't aware of. I don't know. Also,"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "how deep do you have to be into a"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "program to be briefed this"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "profoundly in detail?"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "He's like, \"Oh, just a few layers of the"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "onion.\""}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "So, against a lot of internal"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "resistance, the council has been quietly"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "providing scaler phase systems to"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "several blocks, not just the US. The"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "list I saw included the United States,"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "China, European Union through several uh"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "through specific channels Russia and"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "Brazil. Those systems are being"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "integrated into space platforms,"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "aircraft, and undersea assets. Testing"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "is happening in remote places and high"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "altitudes, often disguised as other"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "things. Most of the people physically"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "working on it think it's an advanced"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "homegrown black program. Only a very"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "small circle in each capital sees the"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "full context. I got to see pieces of"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "that picture shortly before I was pushed"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "into quote unquote retirement, which is"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "a polite way of saying I stopped being"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "convenient. That is as specific as I am"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "willing to get."}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "There is one more reason I am writing"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "this now after pondering it for a long"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "time, and it is more personal than the"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "2-year clock. A friend of mine, someone"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "I worked closely with inside the"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "program, another EO specialist,"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "had been talking quietly years ago about"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "going to Congress. Not with everything."}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "They were not"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "sewer slid"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "just enough to force a real closed door"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "hearing in the Senate. Get the true"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "nature of certain special access"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "programs acknowledged on paper make it"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "harder to bury the whole subject under"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "jokes and career threats. Over a year"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "ago, I got word that they died. The"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "official explanation has been vague and"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "unsatisfying. Medical complications on a"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "trip to a black site in the Indian"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "Ocean. Those medical complications do"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "not match what I know about their"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "health. Then it became an accident at"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "home with no details anyone will put in"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "writing. People who would normally be"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "candid went very quiet very fast. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "it was just bad luck. People do die"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "suddenly. But given the threats which"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "are known about within certain"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "IC intelligence community sectors when"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "one is associated with the subject, I"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "don't know for sure. What I do know is"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "that the last long conversation I had"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "with them was about whether it was worth"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "trying to talk to a certain"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "congressional staffers for a certain"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "senator."}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "After hearing recent news confirming"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "publicly much of what I know to be true"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "privately, I stopped telling myself I"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "would wait and see how things played"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "out. Life is short. So, here we are."}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "Some stranger on the internet telling"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "you an unbelievable story you are free"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "not to believe. With roughly two years"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "on the clock and the current rate of"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "leaks and whistleblowers and half"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "disclosures, it is very unlikely they"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "keep all of this under wraps until the"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "first time something openly not from"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "here appears in our sky or our orbit."}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "At some point before that happens, at"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "least one major government, maybe more,"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "is going to go public in a controlled"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "way. My guess would be China or the US,"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "but it could be one of the others on a"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "scalar weapon list. You will likely get"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "a very careful worded announcement about"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "unidentified aerial phenomena,"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "about contact with nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "about new defensive technologies and"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "unprecedented international cooperation."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "It will be designed to manage panic and"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "control the story."}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "What you probably will not hear in the"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "first round of briefings is the part"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "about the Arids, the economic"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "implications of their society's"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "existence, the billion other habitable"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "planets, the undersea infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "that has been here longer than we have"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "had bones."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "You will not see anyone step up to a"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "podium and say, \"Oh, by the way, there's"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "a branch of humanity that grew up"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "without the idea of money and scarcity"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "10,000 years ago and advanced five"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "millennia past us."}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "That is why I am dumping this here where"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "people can ignore it, laugh at it, or"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "save it and see how it ages. Like I"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "said, do not have to believe me."}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "I'm not here to sell a book, go on"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "podcasts, be on TV, or do UFO lectures"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "or slashtreat this as fiction if it"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "makes you more comfortable. What I'm"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "really trying to do is get you to think"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "past the kitty pool questions. Are UFOs"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "real?"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "Are the NHI good or evil? Is not the"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "interesting part. The far more"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "interesting questions are what happens"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "to this planet once everyone knows we"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "are being watched. That we have cousins"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "around another star."}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "That some of the basic assumptions we"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "built our societies around were just one"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "option, not a fundamental law of nature."}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "If in a year or two you start hearing"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "officials talk about our cousins among"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "the stars or civilizations far older"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "than ours or new non-kinetic systems and"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "shared planetary defense, remember this"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "post and see how well it fits."}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "Look, the bugs are coming either way."}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "The council is not going to save us"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "directly. They already handed out the"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "tools and they are watching to see what"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "we do with them."}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "The part that is still up to us is what"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "kind of world we build if we get through"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "Will we all go back to work and beat"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "each other over the head with really"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "advanced sticks? Or do we achieve a more"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "enlightened potential? That is all I"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "have. Rehea."}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "Woo. Okay."}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "Interesting"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "indeed. Now, I'm going to make some"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "connections here. Assuming that this"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "isn't a LAR, let's just for the sake of"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "allowing our imaginations to be active."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "The podcast with Jeremy Weekes talks"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "about warnings. It warns us. It talks"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "certain technology."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "It talks about sharing it with mankind."}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "And it talks about getting us ready for"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "an invasion."}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "It talks about a council."}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "It talks about gifts"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "that we have to return."}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "I'm not saying this is real. I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "there are an awful lot of points of"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "connection to be made."}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "And although my conviction level on this"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "being true is below 50%."}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "Probably even below 30%."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "I'm not going to completely dismiss it"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "and I will catalog it. I will stick it,"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "you know, in the filing cabinet with the"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "rest of the information that we've"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "collected and see if we can find any"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "other connections as things unfold. Then"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "who knows, maybe by the time that we get"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "some real connecting points, it might"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "not even matter"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "because either way, the bugs are on"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "their way apparently folks,"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "man. Wild, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "What do you guys make of this?"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "A fun LAR,"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "you know, it doesn't explain a few"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "things. It doesn't explain the humanoid"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "species that are incredibly strong that"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "have telepathy. But maybe again it does."}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "Maybe cuz they said they were 5,000"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "years more advanced technologically"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "speaking. Maybe they have since"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "interfaced their minds with some type of"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "neural link where you know they can now"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "make use of telepathy and and more of"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "their brain essentially. So actually"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "maybe it does. Huh."}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "Hm."}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "Would that race"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "be blonde and white? You know, it's a"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "valid question if you look at the work"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "of Madame Bllovatzky. And according to"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "her and theosophy,"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "uh, one of the root races, one of the"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "founding races of beings was the"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "Hyperoreans. There were actually the"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "first root race was like the astral race"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "which is like a non-physical sort of"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "race and then the second root race would"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "be the hyperoreans"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "often"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "uh what people actually remembered when"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "they think the first ancient race and"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "then you'd have leans and then"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "Atlanteanss"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "and then we would be the fifth race"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "which would be the Aryans"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "according to theosophy. Now obviously"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "you know we think about when we hear"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "Aryan we think about Hitler and his"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "pursuit. Well, he was a big fan of"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "Theosophy as well and probably why he"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "went to the North Pole to, you know, to"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "try and figure out, you know, what was"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "going on there, if there were any"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "Hyperoreans, uh, or, you know, perhaps"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "Atlanteanss"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "um, around. But, you know, if you go"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "back to like the root races, the"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "original races according to Theosophy,"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "it's well known that they are like these"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "tall blondes or whatever. Um, but that"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "doesn't mean"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "that that's true. You know, I if you"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "look at Earth, like the oldest races"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "in in proof that we have here, they're"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "clearly not tall blondes. And so, it"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "definitely goes against"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "uh you know, any modern take of,"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "you know, our ancestors or what we know"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "about them."}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "Hm."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "I mean, this coupled with the Jeremy"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "Weeks podcast,"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "the"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "star map that I randomly opened up to."}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "Makes for an interesting"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "set of I don't know. It It makes it"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "interesting. Um, I'm going to be"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "thinking about this for a few days. I"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "hope you are, too. I hope you let this"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "simmer. Let it fester in your little"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "minds. See what you know, see what comes"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "of it. Maybe"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "you've made some connections. You've"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "probably made some connections after my"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "podcast with Jeremy"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "um that I haven't made that no one's"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "made. And I'm I'm looking forward to"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "reading those. I really really am. And I"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "look forward to seeing what other"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "connections that the collective hive"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "mind here at Area 52 can come up with."}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "Folks, if you want to join the"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "conversation and keep it going, head"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "over to Discord. We've got uh threads on"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "Discord. there's like a chat room, but"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "we make threads for like different"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "topics that people can chime in on with"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "their own theories. It's all open to you"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "guys. You guys can do that. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "In June 2015, Sergeant Firstclass Jeremy Weekes, a 20-year veteran of the United"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "States Army who worked in field artillery radar, was driving with his wife and two children along a desolate"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "stretch of highway on their way to their new home in Colorado Springs. As they entered a dense wall of mist, the radio"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "began to cut out and the truck started to experience violent electrical surges."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Then, directly above their vehicle, a massive disc spanning the size of several football fields descended"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "silently out of the fog and hovered momentarily before it shot off at an"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "unimaginable speed. Shaken, the family pulled into a nearby rest stop and that's where they realized that"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "something was wrong because they were missing nearly 3 hours of time. The following night, Jeremy awoke not in his"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "bed, but standing in the motel bathroom, a pen clenched in one hand, the motel"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "receipt in the other. On the back of that receipt was a strange series of squares and lines, something he had no"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "memory of drawing. The symbols didn't stop there. More appeared over the following days, weeks, and months. It"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "wasn't until the material was examined by researcher Linda Molton How and later handed to scientist and geneticist Dr."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Horris Drew for analysis that the full implications became clear. What Jeremy"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "was producing appeared to be a novel way of visualizing a binary system, a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "multipplex code that allows for layered information to be hidden within a simple format. But that wasn't the most"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "disturbing part. You see, the messages also appeared to be a warning, and according to the translation, they were"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "heralding an incoming alien invasion. Jeremy first appeared with a disguised voice in an interview with Linda on the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Gaia YouTube channel nearly 8 years ago. And today, for the first time, he is"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "revealing his identity publicly and sharing the next phase of his ongoing communication with the beings known only"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "as the council. Strap yourselves in. I would highly advise that you suspend your disbelief for the following few"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "hours and hear out what Jeremy has to say. Now, at the end of this, if you"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "choose not to believe or believe, that's entirely up to you. And honestly, I don't think belief plays a major part in"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "this at all. I think gather the information and the data that's going to be provided for you, shelf it, catalog"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "it, and then eventually hold it up to the light and see what other connections we can make using that information."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "The story is I was sitting in a electric utilities parking lot in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "nowhere, San Louis Valley, Colorado. I hear the strangest, most guttural"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "noise. It sounded like a donkey had its neck slit by a laser or something. And I"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "I was freaking out. All of a sudden, a truck comes down the road. He pulls I wave at him. I have all my camera"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "equipment out so he sees what I'm doing. But he was effectively um you know accusing me of this or or"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "about to be. And so he raced off right over to where I heard it happen. He had a house as I would come to find out cuz"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "I visited him two years later because it took up courage to actually go and just visit this random house and ask this"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "dude about if one of his animals was mutilated. I confirmed with this rancher"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "that what happened that night is his mayor horse was mutilated. Classic no"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "blood took out the tongue. Couple other strange parts. One hell of a memorable"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "experience. It happened a little bit after I saw a green orb, too. All right, folks. We got somebody very"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "special here. Uh somebody I'm excited to talk to. This is retired Army Sergeant"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "First Class Jeremy Weekes. Jeremy, um, you've got a really"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "interesting background and story which we're going to get into today. First of all, I want to thank you for coming"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "here. So, thank you. Oh, thank you for having me. Yeah, absolutely, Jeremy. Um it's going to be this to some"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "people watching and listening you might be familiar"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "uh to them uh but to maybe most of the audience obviously uh they're not going to be familiar with you but um you had"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "an incident happen to you and your family in 2015"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "late uh June 2015 I believe June 29th. Yeah. And um that kind of changed your"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "whole course of your life and uh subsequently this was investigated by"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Linda Molton How among many others and eventually you gave an interview under"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the pseudonym CJ. Yes. Our first class CJ. Yes. That's right. And so today this is this"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "is you basically coming out to the world saying that was you. Yes. Yes. Okay. So let's start a little bit"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "further back. Um I do want to introduce you to the audience and I want to uh"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "bring them up to speed a little bit on sort of your trajectory. Now you were in"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "the army from 2001 to 2021. Served 20 years uh in the army. So you were still"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "serving when this happened. Uh correct. Yes. Okay. Hey, can you tell us a little bit"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "about your background history and what you were in the army for? Can we start"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "there? Yeah, absolutely. Um, my job in the military was uh uh field artillery"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "radar. Um, I uh chose this job because"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "it it just seemed like it was a challenge for me and I and I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "do something more or less like a challenge, but I also wanted to be outdoors. U so I didn't want to do infantry. um"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "that wasn't my forte. I wanted to be out there doing something and and and creating um uh an environment around me"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "that was challenging. And so I chose field artillery radar um because essentially we're like Ford observers."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "We're out there alone by ourselves and uh trying to track uh enemy targets, you know, that sort of thing. It was uh"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "exciting and uh I I stayed with that career. I stayed with that job my entire career. I never changed it. high state"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "field artillery radar from the moment I joined to the moment I retired. So field artillery radar that's uh so"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "basically signals um you're working with radar all the time. You're tracking all"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "sorts of stuff and then you're relaying that back to uh your your superiors. And you're doing this all over the world,"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "right? Correct. You've traveled to many locations. You want to name a few of the places that you've been and that you served? uh"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "South Korea, Poland, Germany, uh Iraq, um lots of different loca locations"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "across the United States. Yep. Um quite a few areas. Yeah. Well, I mean, might as well just"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "address it. Postmilitary, you also went into defense contracting, right? Right. For Do you want to say who for? I mean"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that's um I was a defense contractor with um uh company um"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "that uh picks up a lot of uh uh field engineer type stuff. And so I worked"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "with a uh a a very well-known u defense contractor um that uh required me to"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "travel across the United States working on radar systems. Yeah. And uh working in in Iraq for a while."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And you don't you don't want to name who that contractor was? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "it's up to you. I mean, it's going probably out there. So, yeah, I was with JBM, um, which was,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "uh, a subcontractor for, um, Lockheed Martin. Loheed Martin. Yeah. Um, okay. So quite"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "a substantial career obviously being in war zones being uh you know deployed during Iraq and"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "um you know had probably some I mean interesting runins over there and and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "throughout your uh career but nothing like what happened to you in 2015,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "right? Can you tell us where you were going? Now, I have this information here, but I"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "I just want you to kind of run through the story if that's possible. Oh, absolutely. Um, going from A to Z, where you were"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "going, what road, um, what time this happened, all the details you can, just so we can start there."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Absolutely. So, uh, within my job field, um, there's been several incidents that, uh, I just"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "can't talk about. You've always wanted to and it you think about in the back of your mind, man, I would I wish I could"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "tell people about this, but you can't. So, a lot of things have been um quite"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "the silenced for me. Are you are you referring to like prior military? Yeah, you're referring to prior military"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "and you're referring to like anomalous activity. Correct. Okay. Anomalous activities um"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and non-disclosure statements and you can't discuss it until those non-disclosure statements uh expire. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "yes, I can't go into details with those, but just experiencing them over and over and over again and not being able to"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "talk about them just just drives you kind of crazy after a while. But, uh, so"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "June 29th, uh, 2015, uh, I was on leave and we were my my"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "wife, my kids, family, uh, had packed up and we were, uh, moving from, um,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Georgia to Colorado Springs, Colorado. Um, so we packed up. Uh, we chose to"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "drive at night to avoid a lot of the traffic cuz I had a large cargo trailer I was pulling u behind my truck and uh"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "it was easier around the animals and the kids and traveling at night cuz they're going to sleep. They're not going to drive you crazy. And so it just makes it"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "a little bit more comfortable ride for uh my wife and I. And so we left um if I"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "were want to remember correctly around 8:00 p.m. And uh I set GPS uh brand new"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "GPS. I made sure everything was working. Um and we we we planned our route. And"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "so our route was to uh Atlanta and we were planning on uh stopping just after"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "getting through Atlanta and the chaotic traffic. Uh in route"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "um at some point um along our along the highway uh GPS rerouted us um north on I"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "believe it was a Interstate 6 or Highway 6 or uh I'm trying to remember the it"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "was almost like I didn't notice that I had veered off of the highway onto another highway. Yeah, I mean I did essentially, but uh I"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "thought it was part of the planned route because the GPS was taking us there. So we we pull off and and start traveling"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "down this other highway and uh we started noticing a lot of dense fog and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "uh uh a lot of surges within the power system of the truck such as like my dash"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "lights started to dim, my headlights were dimming, um our radio signal lost"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "all radio signals. Um, so we moved it to XM like a satellite radio and we were"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "listening it to it for a short while before it lost all kinds of we couldn't get any signal on uh XM satellite. We"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "couldn't get any signal and and uh on the radio so we ended up turning it off"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "just shutting it off. It was well what the heck why can't we get any signal? So, it it there was a lot of confusion"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "going on in the cab of the truck at the time as we're traveling that uh uh with sometimes our our head"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "my headlights would just get really bright like almost I like I surged or something like I put on my brights or something"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and and I didn't I checked and my brights even got even brighter when I when I flashed them. I was like no no"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "it's not it's not me it's not. So she's asking me like what are you doing? Why are all the lights dimming and what's"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "what's going on? And I was like, I have no idea. Maybe there's some sort of um I got some sort of electrical disturbance"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "in the engine compartment. Maybe something um shifted or vibrated and"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "touched is messing up with my electrical system. I told her I we might have to stop and I have to like lift the hood"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "and see what's going on here later. But we continued down the road. We kept running into the fog and things. Now,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "this fog, how far was visibility with this fog? Was it really dense or was it"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "like just kind of like a mist or some of it was pretty dense where I I could only see about 20 30 ft in front"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "of the truck so I had to slow down a few times going through it. Okay. And then it would like lighten up and I"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "could see further and I'd speed up again. So uh this was going on for a little while. Um this is that moment my"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "wife looked up and saw a bright light coming uh toward us and she pointed it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "out and like what the heck is that? That's pretty bright. And I looked over and I was like, \"Oh, it's probably an airplane or something.\" You know, and I"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "just kept on driving and I kept glancing over. She's watching it. I'm driving."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "So, I'm I have to keep this big cargo trailer and the truck and animals and everything. I'm I'm focused on my task."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "And my task is, you know, keep us safe. And so, I'm focusing on the task, but I'm also"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "I'm glancing up at this at this object that's off to my left um coming toward"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "us. And then I noticed the lights were getting a lot brighter and was kind of lighting up the area coming toward us."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "And then I realized this may be an emergency or some sort of aircraft that looks like it's about to"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "try to land or or crash onto the highway. I need to I need to pull over. So I start pulling over and hitting the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "brakes, slowing down as it's as it's coming toward us. And I'm like, what in the what in the world? I mean, so at"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "this point, it's so bright you can't identify anything. I did not see wings. um wing strobes. I did not see"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "the uh the red and green indicators for the left and right for the aircraft."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "So, as a as a as an observer, you you're you're able to distinguish those things. I mean, I've been observing these things"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "uh you know, aircraft and uh all types of um objects that are, you know, high"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "velocity and traveling through the the the the skies. I'm a trained observer observer, very"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "well trained observer. And so I'm looking for these things, but I'm also like concerned because if this is an if"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "this is an aircraft under an emergency needing to make an emergency landing, I don't want to be in its path and uh I"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "don't want to collide with it. So I pulled over. I eventually stopped on the on the side of the highway on the side"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "of the highway at the right side and uh I I came to a stop through it in park and uh we just sat there for a moment as"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "it was coming in and then it slowed down. it slowed down and it was no longer in the position where it was"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "going to collide or land on the highway. It it it it leveled off and then it it"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "it turned slightly going uh directly east and then it just slowly moved right"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "over the the the truck. How far from the truck do you estimate"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "it was like at its closest distance? You have to give me a second as I'm thinking"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "about, but I believe not more than uh maybe 50"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "50 yards from the truck distance. Um maybe a little bit closer. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "could have been 25. Um but it was just over the truck. Yeah, clearly. And And how big roughly?"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Uh 200 about 250 m. Uh 250 ft. I'm 250 ft. Still massive."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "I I would say I would say close. You have to forgive me in my meters and my feet and kilometers and miles as"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "uh in military we use a lot of uh different um references. Um but uh I"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "would say about closer to two football fields in length. That's uh and and and and in length and in"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "height roughly uh uh 60 to 80 60 to 80 uh feet in height."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "No small ship. No, it wasn't small. as it got so close and you're I'm able to to determine some"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "some uh um um"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "etching on the on the bottom, but technically it wasn't etching. It was just more symbology"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "symbols along the bottom. Yeah. And I'm just looking at the symbology on or the symbols on it and"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "trying to identify it as is what type of aircraft because I didn't know if this was some sort of blimp or some sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "um uh weather blimp or or whatnot. But this as it got closer and you know as it"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "had leveled off and come over slowly I I soon realized this is not anything that"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "I recognize. Um, and uh I I'm a little bit familiar with"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "with many different types of aircraft. Yeah. Different types of aircraft that most civilians don't uh recognize are"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "uh aircrafts that are not public. We'll say we could say like some you know some classified"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "classified aircraft and we won't go into that. Sure. But uh you know I I'm familiar with a lot of different things."}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "It's not that is what you're saying. It's not that. It is definitely not that. And that's what was throwing me"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "off is the symbology underneath it uh didn't compute with my brain with what"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "what this was because this is not this didn't seem like a symbology that we use, you know. Um and I didn't recognize"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "it. And the odd thing is the the light it was projecting um was not attached."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "This was was not attached to this to this object to this aerial phenomenon. this this"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "this UAP was projecting uh light that wasn't attached to it. It was it was"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "off. I want to say, you know, four to five feet away from this this the the"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "physical the physical uh um body of the physical vehicle. It was"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "detached and projecting light. And then in the on the backside it was it was uh"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "would occas it wouldn't spark at all but then occasionally as it was moving it would just throw sparks like a a static"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "discharge off of the back end of it. Wow. And I don't know if that was propulsion. I don't know if that was uh it was inter"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "interfering with the environment um such as cloud or moisture in the air that was causing some of that uh discharge. Um it"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "was it was just throwing me off that it wasn't attached as well. It was it was"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "off of the object itself, off of the vehicle itself. And um it had the when"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "you're looking at the vehicle um itself, it it uh it projected it was like this"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "this field all around it that was um"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "like an oil slick on water, you know, like a swirling the the the pinks and the purples, right?"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "And it was it was like it was like some sort of plasma field that was um just"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "kind of swirling all around it, all over. You could tell it was like a silverish in color. So, you could tell it was a physical"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "object. You can tell it was a physical object, but it had like an outer It had some layer that was dynamic that"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "was Right. It's it it to me it it looked like it had some sort of field around it. Some sort of protective field or or"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "um you know I I I couldn't tell you exactly what color exactly was just like"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "shimmering multiple colors. Multiple different colors. Wow. And it didn't happen all over it at all"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "all at once. It had spots where you can see the silver of the uh the the the"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "vehicle itself. So, I knew it was like a metallic metallic silverish um um"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "aluminum type uh material. And you could tell it was consistent with the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "aluminum. No rivets. I did not see any seams. It was dull."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Um I would say dull. Yes. It uh it didn't shine. You couldn't see your"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "reflection kind of thing. It it was just a it was just a silver um like a"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "aluminum like an oblong object too. Was this like like a football shaped football almost?"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Um yeah, it had it I couldn't describe it precisely the way that the shape it was"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "was similar to a football at one particular uh view of it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "And it had moved and we saw that it was uh round when it had was coming down. We"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "could we could tell it was round and when it was leaving you could tell it was round but a lot of our perspective"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "was a football shape, you know, and until it got overhead and then you could tell it was it was oval"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "circular. Yeah. Right. And uh that's where I could see some of the uh the the symbology"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "underneath on the underneath side. What would you compare those symbols to if you had to compare them today? cuz"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "there's a lot of symbols out there that have been witnessed by many experiencers. Um, what would you compare"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "it to? Um, I would compare them to uh most recently the uh the the s there's a"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "sphere that was uh uh I believe in Mexico the bugosphere. The bug sphere. some of the symbology"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "um was very very similar to what I was seeing under the on the underneath side"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "of this. So, but at that time that didn't exist. So,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "I just did the best I could to represent the the symbology that I had seen."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "And to me, it it I I pictured it as only lasting, you know, a a few minutes of"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "this of of viewing this. Yeah. Um and so for me, I was just trying to"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "identify it. I did everything I could to try to identify it. Yeah. And with to no avail. Uh this is nothing"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "that we that we have. This is nothing that exists. What color was the light that was being"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "emitted? It was a It was a bright white. I mean, I could It had literally no color to it whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Mhm. Blinding bright white. Just Just as white as white can get."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Okay, so this is overhead. You're seeing these anomalous symbols. You're seeing this weird skin on the craft be, you"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "know, dynamic and roing and plus, you know, the cars messing up. You got kids"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "in the back, right? What's your general gestalt here? What's your"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "general vibe of the situation? Are you scared? Are you curious? Are you like,"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "what's going on? I'm not scared. I'm more defensive. I'm in defense mode. Um because as it was"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "coming down, I thought it was going to collide with the road or collide with us or or make an emergency landing and I"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "didn't want to be in its path when it and so I was in defense mode and I I I generally stayed in defense mode um"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "during the the entire encounter um because I I couldn't recognize it. If you can't recognize something uh you"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "don't know what something's capable of and so you're you're I I just I just immediately stayed in"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "defense mode. And so I I was also observing as much as humanly possible uh"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "that I could view from it. So I'm leaning forward into the uh I'm leaning forward and looking up through through"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "my windshield. I had my window down trying to listen for sound. Um I was listening and all I heard was a humming"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "and I can't describe the humming. It was just a mild humming. It was like a pulsating though. I think you des pulsating humming and so it had"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "some rhythm to it. Um so there was some sort of um"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "mechanics or engineering engine involved in it. But what type of engineering? Nothing I can identify."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "Um with anything that we have other than some sort of uh maybe uh something"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "electrical sound like a generator or something some type of large sound. It did lower hum."}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "It was it was it was like a humming like uh applying power to you know capacitor"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "or whatnot. something that produces just a low humming sound. Excuse me. It was uh I would say not not"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "loud and deafening, just very very subtle and quiet. I mean, you wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "be able to hear it, you know, a few hundred feet away, right? Unless you're right under it, then you can hear you would hear the humming. I"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "mean, so um you do you also experience was this now or later? I might be mistaken, but some"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "type of static like charge. Yes. Yes. Inside the vehicle, we noticed"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "that uh as you can see, I don't have much hair. Uh I never did in the"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "military. I always kept the sides short and maybe the the top of my head just a little bit longer. But uh we noticed"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "that our hair was sticking straight up on our arms. And both you and your wife? Both. And the kids are asleep at this"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "point. The kids are asleep. Um my uh uh my oldest that was back there, he was kind"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "of he was kind of waking up a little bit and he was just like, \"What's going on? What are y'all talking about?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "just kind of went back to sleep. I mean, I'm sure he seen something, but he he was he was exhausted and just fell back"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "to sleep. Sure. So, my youngest was just out, you know, he was just out out cold. Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "and so your but your wife is so we're we're we're we're kind of at the moment, you know, to to say the"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "least taken back a little bit, you know, saying some things to to each other"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "like, \"What in the f is, you know, we're we're Yeah. hair standing up."}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "Both freaking out a little bit right now. You know, not not really freaking out. I'm just more or less like trying to calm her down."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "Okay. She's freaking out. She's freaking out a little. Yeah. This is this is kind of wild. You know, my hair's stinking up and so is mine.\""}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "Yeah. And then shortly after it just it it it it moves up um to the northeast"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "and starts heading northeast. And we watch it like raise in altitude roughly, you know, not super fast, but just kind"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "of gradual. And then it gets up to the northeast and then it rotates and moves where it's facing um east, more directly"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "east, but in a uh you know, raising itself in attit altitude and it just is"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "just gone. Just gone right through the clouds. just like it like I like I punched a hole in the"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "clouds like no sound gone. It was it was like a uh a moment where"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "you're looking at it and it becomes like a a blur streak gone,"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "you know, just faster than your eyes can keep up with. You know, it just just"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "whipped out right through the clouds and was gone. And and at that point where I"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "was like, \"Okay, that just that just happened and I'm not in a uniform and"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "I'm not in another country and I'm not out in the training field. Um I'm not out with my soldiers, you know. I'm this"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "is happening right here while I'm on vacation essentially."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "Yeah. I I I need to remember all of this and write this down, times, everything. I've"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "saved receipts because during my my uh trip, my responsibility is to save all"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "my receipts so that I can claim it right when I get to my next duty station and get reimbured for uh some of my"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "expenses. So, uh I thought that worked out perfect because now I have"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "a ledger a ledger of every place that I'd stopped, the times that I stopped"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "and where we stopped, you know, that that was perfect. So, I was saving everything anyway. So, uh that was"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "awesome for me. However, once we cranked the truck back up and started driving up the road, I believe we got up about, you"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "know, 5 to 5 to 7 mi um guesstimation here and I saw a semi-truck on the side"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "of the road and a um something that kind of looks like a Volvo uh uh wagon um"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "four-door that was parked in front of the the semi-truck. And they were walking back to their vehicles chatting"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "like they had seen something, too. And I was like, \"Wow, okay, awesome.\" So, we weren't the only ones. So, yes, I can't"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "wait to see what what they had what they saw, what they encountered. I mean, this was directly over our truck. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "not crazy. They saw something, too. And so, that just kind of helped us"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "confirm, comprehend things a little bit better, you know, that that we're not crazy,"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "which I knew we weren't crazy because we were both talking to each other about it, you know. So, we get a little"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "further up the road and we stopped at gas station and uh I immediately when I got out of the truck, I felt like like I"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "had been in the truck for for days and not moving. You know what I mean? Like cramp legs cramped up. It"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "it was weird. It was like um it was like uh I was maybe floating underwater or in"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "a sub submersible of zero zero um gravity. And now that I'm getting out of"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "the truck, it's like gravity hit me again, you know, like like sea legs almost like oh my Yeah. Like oh my word. Like"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "uh why why am I feeling so um just weak. Weak. Yeah. Like totally worn out, weak,"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "exhausted. And we had just started our trip. There's no way that my body couldn't handle that. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "mean? That was that was you know should have only been in like an hour or so. But um it's what it felt like anyway for"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "me um driving. So that's not normal for me. I'm I'm I'm always moving. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "uh, anyone who's ever been in US Army or military, you move around quite a bit. You know, most,"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "especially, you know, when you get up in, uh, you're senior non-commission officer, senior officer,"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "right? You you move to different duty stations, you do different assignments. It's part of the what what we what we do, you"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "know. So, this was odd for me that I I felt so"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "lethargic getting out of the vehicle and feeling like uh my my legs were struggling to support my weight kind of"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "thing cuz I'm not a heavy dude. I'm a you know, I'm pretty slim. I'm pretty fit. Um I'm old, but you know, it is what it"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "is. Getting out of the vehicle and not feeling that and feeling that was was odd. And she mentioned the same thing."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "She felt like uh she felt like she'd been in the truck forever, you know, and we had just started. So, it's it was an"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "odd feeling, but we kind of brushed it off and continued in and grabbed something to drink. And so, she had felt this way, too, like"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "did at what point did you notice that? Was it like you came out of the car and right away you're like, \"What's going on?\" Did she also feel that and you guys"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "kind of like agreed on that? What was that like? No, I was feeling it and just kind of like trying to figure it out and walk it"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "off. walked around to the front of the vehicle and she's like she she she was the first to make the"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "comment as I was thinking about I was about to say it and she's like my I feel like I feel like we've been in the truck"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "for hours. I'm my legs are are weird or shaky. I need to get something to eat"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "and I was like I know I'm feeling the same thing. That's what I'm trying to figure out right now is like we've been in the truck for several hours or"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "something and and I'm just cramped up or something. I don't know. We both she mentioned at first and then I was"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "already feeling it feeling it and about to say something that she did. And you'd mentioned also I I think that"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "um that there was like this static charge that you still felt. Is that"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "correct? The static charge started to go away. It started to go away, but you you'd still it was still Yes, it was it was coming back to me and"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "and uh small amounts where I got further away from the truck, it kind of went away."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Okay. Um, but when I'm with when I'm in the truck, it would it would come back and different and it wouldn't stay. It"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "would go and come back, go and come back. You know, it was kind of reverberating. When I'm with the truck,"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "when I moved away from the truck and we had gone in to use the restroom, grab something to drink, it was gone,"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "you know, when I come back to the truck, it was coming back. And so, it was happening um when we came back to the"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "truck. Now, once we once we uh um bought our drinks and stuff, we were about to"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "mention like, \"Did anybody see, you know, but before that even happened, somebody walked in and was like, \"It"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "looks like there's like uh some meteor that just came by, just went by and did anybody notice a meteor.\" And I was"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "like, \"No, I didn't see a meteor. I know what meteors look like.\" And and you know what space debris looks like when"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "it's returned into the Earth's atmosphere. Um, so yes,"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "when you have something burning up like uh old piece of space junk that's floating around in our space and we got"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "tons of stuff floating around up there and we we we see it. We know we know where most of the stuff is and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "it's risky putting up satellites. You are having to avoid all this stuff that's just flying around up there. When"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "it comes back into the atmosphere, it it burns up and piece start burning off of it and uh separating from it. And so"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "that's very consistent with uh with with space debris when when you have pieces"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "that burn up and separate and move off, change colors and do all sorts of and and eventually it it touchs down and"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "then somebody has to go and clean up and you know, of course it makes the news and such. So that's the other thing that"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "kind of baffled me is the uh the fact that NASA pointed out it was possibly"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "space debris. Um they didn't say it was space debris. When was that? That was shortly after uh"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "I think we arrived in Colorado and I was just looking stuff up. Sure. To see if you know, but there were"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "several hundred eyewitnesses. Um I didn't do it right away. Later on, I"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "just kind of read through hundreds and hundreds of, you know, I I comments and some of them really lined up well"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "with what we witnessed, you know, and and I realized that they weren't very far away from where we were. And so it"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "was odd that they had very similar descriptions in some of those some of those witness reports that I had read."}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "But um but yeah, uh the odd thing is that this space debris should have"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "landed somewhere up in North Carolina uh North Carolina, northern North Carolina or Virginia area,"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "right? Yeah. Where it should have come down. And you'd think that uh there would be,"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "you know, some um news reports of some space debris that"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "was found and that reflected it up. Anything nothing nothing was found. And so that was odd that the there was no news"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "reports of um somebody having a a piece of a satellite that came down that they"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "were cleaning up. Now, I'm not taking away the fact that that was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "Russian space. They believed it was probably a Russian satellite that had come down. Um, which I'm not taking away"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "from that that could have very well happened, right? But, you know, it's odd that we"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "witnessed this around the exact same time, which lead me to believe that maybe it was using, you know, everybody's focused"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "attention is on this space debris so that this other thing can move around and do what it wants to do."}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "They needed an explanation. Right. Right. So like maybe this this uh"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "UAP um perhaps had a mission and took the opportunity why attention was focused elsewhere to"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "do what it wants to do without you know yeah getting spotted spotted and okay"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "we'll get into what it wanted to do in a second because uh it gets it gets pretty wild"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "it gets really wild um as you can tell I've got like a pile of printed notes"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "here from uh Dr. Horse Drew, right? You know, who's who's done a lot of"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "study on this and so is, you know, Linda Molton How as well and kind of picking up where they left off here. But before"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "I get to that, I want to go back to the symbols just real quick. Absolutely. And one other thing, there was also"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "these uh seemingly what look like port holes uh that that that were around the craft"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "that you described, like these squarish windows, right, that were rounded that you said kind of like uh that that illuminated,"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "right? Right. And you weren't sure if they were windows or if they were just lights. Um"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "did those show up? They they kind of just showed up or were they always there on the craft?"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "They were there the entire time. Um the uh the image that you're looking at"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "um the the middle one was my wife's interpretation of what she had witnessed. And she she she's not uh an"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "artist. I drew That's pretty good. I drew what she wanted me to draw the way she wanted she wanted it. and she"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "was standing right over me helping me. Uh she she identified those lights around as being round and circular. I"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "ident identified in mine upper image because I was a little bit distracted"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "trying to get these done quick and they're they're crappy. I don't like them at all. I I wish I wish I spent"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "like a few days on each one. You're a tough critic. This what I I'm a tough critic, but I love art. I love I love I love that"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "stuff. You're obviously very talented. I'm I'm not. you are, but I'm decent. I mean, I'm decent at best."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "If every experiencer was this talented, you know, it might help us piece the puzzle together a lot quicker, I'll tell you. Um, but first of all, they're"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "strikingly similar in in their surface and what's going on in the outside of the craft, but"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "Right. But yeah, go ahead. So, the the vehicle that she witnessed, the lights around the side as round, I I"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "recognized them as being slightly rectangular with uh rounded edges."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "Right. So, but I was really observing and really focusing on trying to"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "identify whereas she was just experiencing. And so, in her defense, she was she was wanting to describe or"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "see things the way that she interpreted them. Mhm. I'm looking at it in a in a completely"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "different other mind frame, my military mind frame of trying to identify, notice"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "small details, noticed anything that could help me identify things. And so I paid close attention to those lights"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "around the outside and their shape. And uh I I I I"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "was just trying to identify its silhouette and and the way it was moving and everything that I could so that I"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "can uh articulate that later. And and you were trying to identify the silhouette because that's what you're trained to do with the radar work that"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "you've done. You identify things on a radar. Absolutely. by its silhouette and obviously by its trajectory, it"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "speed and all that stuff too. But that's that's one of the big So you were trying to see if that lined up with anything"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "that you had previously observed on a radar. Is that correct? Fair to say. Yeah. Um and so the symbols here, we see five"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "symbols. I find them really interesting. Now you uh they they do look familiar to like the bugosphere symbols, but many"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "other symbols. um like you said that doesn't look so much like letters but symbols like almost like hieroglyphics"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "or right or even um quite similar to like Greek lettering a little bit as well. Um you"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "see some of them here and obviously we're going to touch on the Rendlessham uh incident as well because uh and we'll"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "get there in a second because there are a few uh comparisons to be made but one of which is the lettering on the craft"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "as well was kind of similar right which I thought was uh which I thought was really interesting. Um, but there's"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "a middle symbol here that I picked up. So, the middle symbol, which is like a line and like these two lines like this. Correct."}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "There's a there's a case in Spain um of UMO. Okay. Um, this was like this was this wave. I"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "got two books up there, but it was this wave uh from the ' 50s to the '7s in Europe where these letters were kind of"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "like sent all over Europe apparently by an alien race. Um, but the symbol that kept showing up and this was from a"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "sighting in Russia. Um, but if you look at the belt Oh, wow. Yes. Yeah. Very similar."}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "So, I thought that was just really interesting that it's kind of the UMO symbol, right? Uh, that showed up on this craft. So,"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "almost like a squeeze space and time. Yeah. Like a weird H or something,"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "right? Um, okay. So, at this point, uh, you get"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "to this place to stretch your legs. um talk us through what happens next."}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "So, yes, we're walking out after purchasing and uh we're hearing that some people had saw um like a meteor or"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "something that had come come down and asked if anybody had seen it. We were like, we saw something different, but"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "no, we didn't see a meteor. And they pointed out that it just went by. So, I'm not sure if this just came by that"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "they witnessed why we were in the store or why we were parked. uh as soon as we got to the gas station or maybe behind"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "us when we were arriving at the gas station, but um or if it or if it was"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "the exact same thing, we would notice, but we we were my wife and I at the time were still like, \"What in the heck?\" But"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "we're we were trying not to create a scene as well. So, we were just kind of listening to what other people had seen."}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "And then we went back to the truck and we continued on a little bit further. Um it wasn't but a few more miles. It said"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "we arrived at our final destination and I was like we are not in C. What is going on with this thing? It took us to"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "a very desolate um church and took us directly to the cemetery associated with"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "the church. And it said, excuse me, it said that we were we were at our final"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "destination which is Colorado Springs, Colorado. And we were at a cemetery. And"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "that's when we realized, okay, this is not working. Something happened with our"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "GPS. something misguided us. I had to power down the the GPS and"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "reprogram it, reput it in um reputation. And I believe we started using uh our"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "phone um Google Maps kind of thing to make sure that uh our GPS wasn't taking"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "us some wild ever next, you know, direction. Yeah. So, we we used our phone with the"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "GPS just to make sure to, you know, have like a uh a backup, you know, so in case"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "it took us off course again, our regular phone it can Hey, the"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "my phone says we keep going straight. So, this thing's telling us the turn. So, but that never happened. They both"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "worked in sync and we continued on. Um, we got back on track. We went through Atlanta and we stopped, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "rest. I was exhausted. We found out that we had burnt through several several"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "hours. We had several several hours of missing time. How many hours? Roughly 3 to 4 hours missing time. And"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "it would a normal trip like that from uh uh I want to say like uh Hinesville area"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "to Atlanta would not take that long. I mean that's an hour and a half, maybe"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "hour and 45 minutes. But we we had we had killed six hours, seven hours of"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "time and not realizing where that time had gone. There was no way that we could have burned through that much time. And"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "so that's what was throwing us off. As soon as we got to Atlanta, the sun was up and I I was burnt out. She was burnt"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "out. We stopped at a hotel right after we got through Atlanta. Um I believe it"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "was like Magnus and something hotel and uh we tried to sleep. I couldn't sleep very well. Uh she couldn't sleep very"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "well either. Did you feel ill at all? I didn't feel ill. I didn't feel sick."}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "I just felt uneasy. Um uncomfortable. I couldn't get comfortable. I couldn't I"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "mean, I couldn't close my eyes for too long. Um so, you know, I was I was rested. I felt rested enough um and I"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "may have dozed off shortly, you know, for a short while and wake back up. So, I was just kind of in and out of getting"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "rest and waking up, getting rest and waking up. Um, I I just couldn't sleep very comfortably and we couldn't stay"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "there for 2 days. So, it we had to get back on the road. So, I uh loaded up on"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "coffee that good oldfashioned caffeine energy to get back going and uh I made"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "sure I was good to go and got the kids loaded up. We got back on the road and"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "drove further and kept on going. And it was when we stopped in uh Panduk uh"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "Paduka, Kentucky, I believe is what it was called. Uh to my memory, I believe it was Panduca, Kentucky at Motel 6 or"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "Hotel 6. We had animals with us. So that's the best place to stop when you have animals. And um we went up and I"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "was ready just to crash out. I was burnt out, half asleep."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "It was it was time for me to rack the heck out. So I racked out. I I fell"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "asleep quickly. Uh I had woken up at some point unccoherently. Woke woken up and I I"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "woke up standing in the bathroom with the light on and a pen in my hand and a"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "uh receipt, the hotel receipt. Um I was writing had squares and lines."}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "Um, now unccoherently I remember walking to the bathroom with the lights off just"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "kind of feeling my way around to the bathroom and uh I remember turning on the light and I don't really remember"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "writing the squares and lines but I when I had really woken up and come to I had"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "realized I had written written a bunch of squares and lines on the back of that receipt"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "and I'm still holding the pen so I just wrote WTF on it. Yeah, we all know what that means, right? So, I I had"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "That's a WTF moment. Yeah, if ever there is one. WTF? Definitely. Yes. It was one of"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "those Okay, WTF. I didn't think much of it. I threw back"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "with my paperwork and uh I I stumbled back to bed and went back to sleep. I"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "don't know why I got up. I didn't need to use the restroom or anything. I just gotten up and was in there doing it. I"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "went back to sleep. I remember having some sort of uh dream that night, but I I don't recall exactly"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "what transpired in that dream at that time. But uh I I remember we all woke up, we"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "got ready, we got back on the road, you know. Meanwhile, I'm just kind of ignoring the fact that I had done that."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "And I I remember why we were on the road. I said, \"I I was in the bathroom writing something down and I don't"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "remember why or what caused me to do that.\" I mentioned it to her. She's like, \"Well, you're weird, so I"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "don't know.\" You know, I'm I'm military, so I I have a lot of weird analogies"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "about things, and she just thinks I'm goofy. But, uh, we get back on the road, we don't think much of it. We continue on."}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "Um the rest of the trip just seemed um fairly normal uh to the most part. Um"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "besides, you know, occasional accident or whatnot, you know, we're I'm just trying to drive safely and get us get us"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "to where we're going. Is when we arrive um in Colorado, uh we stayed with a"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "friend and um I I I wanted to get this get this put out as quickly as possible."}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "You mean you mean the report? I wanted to report this as quickly as possible because when you spent uh so much time"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "in the military and you have people come by and have you sign non-disclosure"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "statements where you don't discuss it. I wanted to report some I wanted to report this as quickly as possible before"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "somebody would stop me. Before somebody told you you can't talk about this? Before someone told me cuz that's happened before."}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "Yes. Many times. Many times. Okay. So I wanted to get it out before somebody told me not to talk about it."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "So, I I reported as quickly as possible and I wrote down as much information as I could in a short period of time cuz in"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "the process of getting to Colorado, it's it's time for us to find a place to live. It's time to figure out where the kids are going to go to the school."}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "There there's several different other things going on. So, I reported it. Uh I believe I reported it to um uh the"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "National UFO Reporting Center. Um I believe out of Washington or New"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "York. Okay. So I I reported it to them and let it go. And then I went on to my"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "daily life of getting things situated. While we were there at our friends, my wife and I both woke up in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "the night with an uneasy feeling. And so we looked out our window um down into"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "the backyard of and and there behind the backyard there's like an alleyway, a road alleyway and then some more"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "houses because this is where where our friend's house was. It was on side of the hill and so you have, you know,"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "alley um vehicle. Sure. you know, if if you're parked in the backyard, you can, you know, use"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "this little one lane paved road to to get in and out of. And uh I had this"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "uneasy feeling. And I look out the window uh looking down at that road and I spotted three dark figures um the"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "shadow figures slowly moving uh toward um the the back of the house and stopped"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "and looked like if they were observing me observing it. And my wife climbs up and looks and she's like, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "what is that?\" And I was like, \"I have no idea. Do you see it?\" And he's like, \"Yes, I see. I see three.\" I was like,"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "\"Abs she's seeing exactly what I'm seeing. I'm not crazy.\" Yeah, you're not asleep. I'm not saying so and and and so we were"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "looking and we were like, \"What in the hell?\" And she's like, \"That is making me feel extremely uncomfortable today. I"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "know it's I'm feeling the same thing. It was kind of freaking us out. They were observing us observing it.\" And so I"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "moved from the uh the uh bedroom into the dining room where the uh sliding"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "glass doors were. And I'm looking and I still see them, but now they're they're right at the the sidewalk that that"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "leads to that road. And now they're in the sidewalk in the backyard looking up at me."}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "How tall? Um the middle one was a little bit taller. The other two were just shorter. Just a little bit shorter. But there was"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "no distinct lines or um there was no distinct lines or um it was just dark"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "shadows um without you know clear crisp lines. Right. So there's like a dissipating"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "sort of like shadow. Yes. You can tell that they were figures. These were figures, but the"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "there was no distinct, you know, u line, you know, it was like a a faded"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "or blurred around the edges. So, this was freaking me out cuz my kids were in the living room right near that sliding"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "glass door and I I went into dad defensive mode like, \"All right, some some shit's about"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "to go down. Come get some.\" You know, I got you. And so I'm I'm I'm I'm secretly"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "nervous and and concerned, a little bit frightened, but I'm not going to show I'm afraid of anything."}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "I'm ready to I'm ready to fight. So I my my my me my uh aggression came out and"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "I'm standing there and I'm and I'm trying to size him up, you know, with with my with my uh"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "appearance. Uh I'm trying to display I'm ready to go. I'm ready I'm ready to throw down. Um, but it's just the the"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "the vibe that I kept getting is like there's nothing you can do. There is nothing you can do. So, I mean, I I just"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "that's the vibe that that I just kept getting from this. So, I shut the blinds and moved back closer to my kids away"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "from the door and window and uh closed them because I didn't want to see them right up against the the the the glass"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "doors. That would freak me out. I mean, I would literally I I don't know what I would done, you know? I don't know if I"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "just go charging at the glass doors, breaking the glass and attacking whatever it is. Sure. I I didn't want to see that. So, I"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "closed the blinds, the the curtains, and I moved back closer to my kids to be more protective of my kids."}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "Um, she was kind of in the hallway just kind of peering out. But then she had went back in the room and kept looking"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "through the window in the room. And, uh, I waited there with the kids for a"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "while. And I remember after about 5 10 minutes, I decided I need to muster up"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "some courage and come open these blinds. And so, yeah, I mustered up I mustered"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "up all my aggression and and and uh my willpower and I went over and threw the"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "blinds open standing there and they weren't there. Uh my thankfully they were not right"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "outside those glass doors. And so I'm looking around. I'm looking down where I had seen them before."}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "They're nowhere to be found. Uh I look out the front window to see if they were out in the front. They weren't out in the front and it just vanished."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "Yeah. But it was it was a moment. Uh that was that the only weird moment that happened"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "right there. Yeah. And that in our friend's house that we were staying at. Um we talked about her"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "in with her in the morning and she's like, \"Oh, that's weird. I've never noticed things like that.\""}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "It was around this time that uh Muon came by um after uh filing my report. Um"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "uh I believe they wanted to they asked me permission to share with Muon so they could come out and investigate and I said yeah absolutely. So Muon came out"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "they uh they they checked out us uh physically. They separated us. Um they"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "wanted to look at our bodies to see if there were any uh we had I had some um strange markings on I thought injuries"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "on my back on your back and your neck. my neck and my and my back area and um"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "they didn't seem You mean puncture wounds? I felt like there was puncher rooms um or some sort there was red spots and"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "puncture wounds that I felt it felt like to me on my back and my wife said they looked like little needle holes or"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "something. Um when they came out and investigated they didn't they didn't find any they looked at them but they didn't they"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "didn't seem too interested and and that or there wasn't a pattern or or anything"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "consistent. So that they just took pictures and moved on to other things and and they asked us what transpired"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "separately. So we both described what transpired separately. Um now keep in mind my wife and I we"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "think completely different which is fine. You know we're all human beings. We all I think there are enough similarities"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "between the stories to like cuz the you know something that is said often about like let's say the case in Rua Zimbabwe"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "with the children at Ariel school. They all drew different things. But if you know, but if they all drew the same"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "thing, that's where you start getting suspicious because now you're following a narrative. You're following some type of"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "storyline. Whereas interpretation happens differently. Our experiences are unique and they're not exactly the same."}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "And that's often what we see with genuine encounters. Absolutely. Is what makes us individuals. That's right."}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "Right. So, um they they interviewed us separately. Um they checked her out and you know physically and uh emotionally"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "you know they spoke about it. They had had her speak about what had happened, what transpired and they talked to me"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "and um they brought us back together. They wanted to check out the truck. They were out there."}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "Uh I believe there was a doctor talking with me about some of the marks on me and uh he was just saying, \"Oh, this is"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "pretty normal blah blah blah,\" you know, and why they were out there invest. I kept hearing noises like from them and"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "so I said, \"Hold on a minute.\" And I walked out and they were like, \"Oh.\" And then they were just like freaking out. \"Oh my god, you see this is going wild.\""}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "And it was the um um it was picking up radiation from from the truck and"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "magnetism from the truck and they seemed kind of excited about it. So I was like, \"Okay, okay, okay. That's"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "weird. I washed my truck. I didn't think about, you know, I should keep the truck the way it is.\" I didn't think about it"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "at the time. Yeah. I was never involved in investigating things like that. Sure."}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "You know, with the military is completely different. I stay behind the radar. I don't go anywhere and investigate anything."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "You're not allowed to. I mean, not necessarily allowed to. I wasn't asked to. So, you weren't asked to. I see. So, it was more or less I mean, I have"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "investigated impact sites, you know, when we have uh uh rounds that impacted um where we're operating from uh from"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "enemy, you know, targets, artillery, rockets, things like that. Uh generally I would go and look at these impact"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "sites and and do a back asmouth. Back asmouth is is where's the largest crater? Where is the smallest crater?"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "You you put sticks in with it within the two because usually when a mortar or rocket or artillery piece hits the dirt,"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "there's a smaller hole and it continues to travel before it explodes. So then you have a bigger hole and a smaller"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "hole and you you triangulate uh where that impact is and you take an azmouth"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "of where that direction came from and it gives you a general idea of where it was fired from. So yes, we would we would"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "investigate. Now sometimes I wouldn't go investigate some of these uh uh in these impact craters and uh determine things."}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "Um other times where you know it involved other things usually there's other people went to to investig."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "You were not you were not investigating those things. Correct. Okay. Correct. So, um I understand how"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "investigation works. It's just this situation with my family completely"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "completely utterly different with investigating. I wouldn't have thought of not washing my vehicle, but I had washed my vehicle uh in the process of"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "getting to Colorado. Um it was dirty. I needed to be able to see through my windshield and I needed to be able to,"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "you know, my headlights needed to be work. So, uh, we had to remove a lot of bugs and other things. So, I I took it"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "and washed it off. I didn't think about that. Only washed it once, though, which was good. I could have washed it several"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "times. Only washed it once. And it was still picking up radiation. It was still picking up magnetism when they were out"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "there, you know, a little bit excited. Yeah. When I got out there and walked over,"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "their excitement turned to, \"Oh, yeah. This is this seems pretty normal.\" So they had a magnometer and they were like"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "and a geer counter. Geer counter and magneettorometer. Yeah. Magnet. Yeah. Right."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "That they were scanning around. And the majority of this the majority of the magnetism and the"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "radiation was um generally located or primarily located along the driver side"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "door uh the driver side uh roof and the driver side uh front hood. But the there"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "was a lot that went all the way across the front hood and onto the uh passenger"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "side quarter panel. Quarter panel. Okay. Um but the the strongest readings were"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "along the driver's side. Um which was kind of throwing me off a bit. Is that freak you out a little bit"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "hearing that? It freaked me out a little bit, but when I was walking over, I noticed that when they noticed that I"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "had walked over, their excitement, they they immediately turned it way down and uh were hiding their their their"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "excitement when I had walked over and was like, I just witnessed y'all being quite excited about this. And when I"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "walk over, oh, this seems pretty normal. I mean, is picking up some stuff on both, but it seems it seems pretty"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "normal. Like their excitement just vanished when they realized I was walk I was really close to them walking up to them."}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "Suspicious, right? And so it just kind of threw me off a little bit and I was like, \"Okay, don't want to share excitement with me.\""}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "Okay, so you don't want to um you want to remain uh professional and I get that. I mean, some people want to remain"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "professional and not and not uh indicate too much excitement for you don't want to freak out the false positive or"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "something, right? You don't want to freak out the person you're interviewing. So, I understand those possibilities, but uh yeah, so so that took place. Um they"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "collected uh some pictures and information from us and they told us"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "they'd uh uh you know give get us a report and get back to us. At this point you had your receipt from"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "the hotel still. Right. Uh you'd only written on it once. You'd only have this one transmission, we'll"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "say. Right. Correct. At this point, at this point, this it was only one transmission at at that time. Okay. It was a little while later um"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "right before we left our friend's house that uh um I believe I had another one"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "and um middle of the night again right middle of the night just waking up and and doing them."}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "Do you do you remember this one? Is there is there one of them that you remembered early on or did they all did"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "you always sort of wake up just writing? No. U before we even made this trip uh"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "and I'm glad I had a conversation with my wife before this interview because she reminded me before we left and we were"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "still in Georgia and I was still working in Georgia. She she remembered a time where I had gotten up and was and I I"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "was completely out of it on the bathroom floor and just yelling out or or"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "speaking out zeros and ones. Um, I just kept them 0001 1 0 0 1 1, you"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "know, and and in a fast pace and she was like, \"What in the hell are you?\" And she was trying to wake me up. She"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "thought I was going to die. She said I was trying to scratch the when when she covered my mouth, I tried to write them"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "onto the door with my fingernail. Um, she said it freaked her out and she was"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "she went and got a receipt and was trying to write down the zeros and ones, but I was saying them so fast that she"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "couldn't keep up. Eventually, she got my got me uh alert and I realized I was on"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "the floor and I just got up immediately went back to bed, laid down, went to sleep like nothing happened and she said"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "that really freaked her out. That was before that before we even went on our trip. So,"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "um, I'm glad she reminded me that. uh because I almost forgot about that and I"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "tend to forget things sometimes but uh there's so much when when you have so much things happening to you throughout"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "your life it's hard to remember you know or not really hard but you sometimes"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "forget some of those things that have happened and somebody reminding you of it is is is quite helpful and"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "beneficial. You're not um well I mean first of all"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "were you familiar with binary at any point of your life? Were you you weren't working in computer science or anything?"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "You weren't no part of anybody who's who would be familiar to that extent with binary code"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "for any reason whatsoever. No, no, no. Our military computers are completely different. They don't know"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "operate on binary. Yeah. Um so I was really unfamiliar with binary and I didn't understand what"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "binary was until later on when it was brought up to me by Dr. Horus Drew."}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "Yeah. and and and that binary and we'll get into that in a second once we once we talk about some more of the"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "transmissions that happen, but that binary is special because it's not it's not standard binary,"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "right? And so that's what makes this even more novel and strange is the fact that you"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "had seemingly invented a new form of binary. That's wild. Yes. Uh he he found that"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "and my um I'm sure you have some images we can pull up and show people."}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "Uh some of these are are are are empty boxes and some of them are solid boxes are filled in. Yep. And then we had some"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "thicker lines and some thinner or thin lines that were in and some of my dreams"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "that I was writing down. And and I also realized that when I was having these,"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "they began to evolve over time. So the first time that I was"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "in that hotel on our way to Colorado Springs, they were moving fast. So in order for me to keep up, I was just"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "doing the boxes and lines as quickly as possible as I was seeing them. And in my mind's eye, things were a little bit"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "darker all around, but they were appearing as like this uh blue um color."}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "So, you remember this happening? You remember seeing this? I remember seeing it later on. Later on. And so, it it took a few days to to for"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "me to have a dream or or some more sleep time where I'm I'm remembering. And then"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "the next day I'm waking up and okay, I remember seeing some blue uh boxes and lines coming across my my face"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "like this, you know, just kind of like reading like everything's just not black, but everything's darker around me where I"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "could still see that I'm in a room and objects in that room, they're just darker and these blue boxes and lines"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "are coming by my face. So the first time they happened, they were coming fast. It was difficult for me to keep up. I"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "couldn't shade them all in or make them thicker. It was just get the boxes and lines down. And so that's what I did the"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "first time. Yeah. The ones after had slowed down enough where I could fill in the the dark boxes"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "and and leave the light boxes and I had more time to actually put them down. It was it was simple. I could look"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "anywhere. I didn't have to look in front of me or anything. I could look directly at the paper and they're happening right in my"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "peripherals from right to left just moving slow. And so I'm able to do the boxes and lines nice and simple, easier"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "that way. Now over time they they began to morph into u um lowercase letters and"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "capital letters and then eventually into more or less like just verbal messages,"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "you know, in my head. Before we get to the verbal messages, right? Um let's take this one step at a time"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "because this is uh absolutely there is a lot of information here. Um, so first"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "off, the subsequent messages after the first one, how far apart were those? I"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "see here we have October, we've got November, November again, November, then"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "December. So, this is happening really frequently at this point. Absolutely. How frequent after that late June"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "encounter up until November, how how many transmissions do you estimate"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "you've had? a couple per month. I would say um maybe three or four in a month at"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "times. Other times maybe just one a month or none. Yeah. And then the following months two or"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "three it would there was no pattern. Okay. And and that's one thing I was trying to notice is is there a pattern?"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "There was never is it something I see? And I'm not taking credit for this at all because she's she's beautiful. She's"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "amazing. Linda Molton Howal um I had spoken with you know shortly after after"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "muon and she indicated that this is important because I told her I had some"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "messages that I hadn't been writing down. She she indicated that it's probably very important and I need to"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "have a journal next to me so that I'm able to write these things down. And so she's the one that gave me she's the"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "brilliant mind behind I need to write these things down when they happen, date them and and and keep"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "a record. Good for her. And so great on her that she she she"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "helped me with that and she deserves all the credit for that because that was that was an amazing idea. I would have never thought of"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "that. And so that's what I started to do. I I started writing these things down when they happened. Um,"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "and and to to also to Linda's credit, she was the one who discovered Jim Penniston's binary code. The Rendlessham"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "Forest incident in England 1980, where US Air Force officer Jim Penniston said"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "he walked up to a landed craft covered in strange symbols and then lost time. Years later, it was Lyn Molton How took"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "a closer look at the notes Penniston had been carrying around in his old notebook and realized that what looked like"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "nonsense was actually 16 pages of structured binary that could be decoded"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "into English. Now, both of these read cold and technical like instructions instead of sort of conversational"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "English and they had very similar wording including the words humanity,"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "continuous, protection and protect, advance and advancement, coordinates,"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "monitor, monitoring, warning, warn, beware. Also the words origin,"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "transmission, message, planetary, survival. All of these words overlap"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "within these two cases and in both cases the crafts were described as featuring"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "sharp geometric symbols and some of these symbols as you can see"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "here are almost identical. So right"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "uh for those who are not familiar with uh the Rendlessham Forest case but in 1980 Jim Penniston was"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "uh you know encountered this black triangular craft had etchings on it much like the ones that were observed uh by"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "you and your wife upon touching the craft was then shot with some type of"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "download if you want to call it or whatnot and had subsequently written down 16 pages of ones and zeros and had"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "not talked about it, had not mentioned it. And it wasn't until I think Linda and him were doing an interview and he had his notepad with him that she kind"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "of shoulder surfed and was like, \"Hey, Jim, what's that?\" And he went, \"Oh, this I don't know. I just wrote a bunch"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "of incoherent ones and zeros down like after it happened.\" And then come to find that there's this incredible"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "message attached to, you know, that binary sequence. Um, and we have it here"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "just for the audience. Um, and and this is yours. There's another Where is it?"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "Here. Well, I'll pull it up on the screen here so we can"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "Right. Like you said, you have got a lot of information here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but essentially,"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "you know, um, exploration of humanity, there was like this date. There were these coordinates. The coordinates led"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "to all sorts of uh significant geographical sites around the globe."}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "Eyes of our eyes uh 8100 like which is I guess a year or something and um for the"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "continuous um what is it the something the continuous of humanity"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "the verbiage was very similar to what was eventually found in yours which I found uh very interesting. So we have"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "this binary code uh that Jim Penniston has. We have Linda Molenhow now seeing"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "that oh something similar might be happening to you. You might be getting some type of transmission."}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "And so she tells you hey write this down. This is important. Now after writing all of this down, what happens"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "when you give it to Linda? She she looks at it and she goes this this is the amazing part. So, I I'm"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "I'm She's asking for some of this. And so, I'm I'm taking pictures, you know, of of my notebook and I'm sending them"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "over to her and she's looking at it and she's she knew she was going to have to"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "reach out to some people and see if they if somebody can find a way to u decipher it, decipher this and decode it."}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "And at some point, she reached out to um Dr. Horus Drew. Yeah. Did Linda at one point did she not"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "feel like this is incoherent? Like there's no cuz she tried to decode it as"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "standard binary and with like no avail. Correct. Yeah. So after that you might think to"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "yourself, oh this crap, I thought this might be binary, right? And it isn't. Uh well, it's not standard"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "binary. It's not standard binary. It's it's it's quite odd. Dr. Horus Drew, a geneticist whom you"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "may remember from our interview with Peter Curry. He was a doctor that did the tests on Peter's hair samples. Dr."}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "Drew took several weeks to decode these messages and that's because they weren't"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "simple binary. This was a form of layered binary known as multiplex which"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "allows multiple messages to be sent simultaneously. Let me explain. So binary is essentially"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "the simplest way to represent information using only two states on and off. Everything is built from these two"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:37", "text": "opposites working in patterns. By arranging enough on and off states together, you can create letters,"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "images, sounds, and videos. Computers use binary because their electronic parts naturally switch between these two"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "conditions, making it the most reliable way for machines to think. But this novel or new multiplex system works by"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "embedding three separate binary messages inside a single set of symbols. So the"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "first message is read using shape alone where squares represent zero and lines represent one. The second message is"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "hidden in the shading of only the squares where filled squares are zero"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "and empty squares are one. The third message is encoded in the shading of only the lines where thick shaded lines"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "represent zero and thin lines represent one. Each layer operates independently allowing three completely different"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:29", "text": "messages to be transmitted simultaneously within the same visual"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "pattern. This was then sent to Dr. Horris Drew. Uh I just want to give the"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "audience a bit of a reference of who Dr. Horse Drew. You might be familiar with him because he is also the one who ended"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "up testing uh Peter Curry's hair and did those DNA tests uh which we Peter Curry"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "who we had in the show recently. So, a brilliant mind, somebody who is definitely an outside of the box thinker,"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "right? Um, you know, a bit of a bit of a brilliant person. Um, so shout out to Dr. Drew here and to Dr. Drew's credit."}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "How many months did it take for Dr. Drew to come back to you and say, \"I cracked"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "it.\" That's the thing. He's a brilliant mind. It didn't take months. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "It took the, from my understanding, it took him several weeks. Yep. Um, but he did not mention months."}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "He's very brilliant person. Yep. Great person to talk to. He he's he's"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "open-minded and he's a really good listener and he offers a lot of good advice. So, it took him several several"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "weeks um before he began to unravel things. Mhm. And then he he looked into it further"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "and further and realized that these were um"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "if you pull up the images again and you show the boxes and lines, you will see that it's not pages upon pages. I'm"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "having I'm having dreams of just you know like paragraph versions of these"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "because normally if you have binary it's so after learning about binary through"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "um Dr. Drew. Um, and uh, looking some stuff up on the internet. Uh, zeros and"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "ones, you you you could have 8 to 10 pages of nothing but zeros and ones, and the message is a short few sentences or"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "a short paragraph. Whereas this is short and and um, message, but the information"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "is quite extensive. So, that's what was throwing me off. And I was like, \"Okay, well, I just looked up how binary works,"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "but this doesn't make sense with binary. How how come there's so Why is it that they're so short in messages, but the"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "information is is as much there's more information involved in it than that?\""}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "And it's because he determined that there was several layers or"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "multipplexing going on. uh I would like to think that it's more or less like a dimensional or cube form whereas you"}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "have boxes and lines as one particular messages almost like zeros and ones."}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "Then you have dark squares and and light squares that are telling another message. And"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "then you have dark lines and thin lines that are telling another message. And then there's uh I believe he found some"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "capitaliz capitalization which are providing other messages and"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "message within a message within a message within a message providing um"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "a ton more information than the me than than the boxes and lines together. Multi he called"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "multipplexing. Dr. Drew ends up uh decoding this which as mentioned as you know you guys just"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "saw the little explanation here but this is a brand new form of binary code. Now"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "the message that we get once we decipher this"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "is first of all not so dissimilar from Jim Penniston's message but man there's"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "a lot to digest in these first messages. Now, you have many messages, but these first few ones,"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "um, I'm just going to go ahead and read them out first, and then we can sort of talk"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "about them and talk about how you felt when, you know, when you got these."}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "So June 30th, this is the next day. This is in the motel or you know the"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "following day when you guys stopped um on your way to Colorado, right? Um continuous protection of humanity"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "49.27 north 11.5 east."}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "Expose hidden knowledge to all citizens. Advancement imperative for planetary"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "survival. Beware of Orion 1350.3 and Z reticuli 39.170"}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "avoid and then signal in brackets messages sent. So that's the first one."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "There's a lot to unpack even on the first one. So can you tell me what the coordinates would represent here?"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "So we're going to break down that first one um based on the information that I received back from Linda Molenhow."}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "Yeah. And uh Dr. Dr. Hors Drew who was able to to to translate these and uh from what I"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "remember um Linda had Linda and Dr. Horris Drew found a location for those"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "that that that grid coordinate and which ended up being in um Germany somewhere."}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "Um, I wanted, if I may remember correctly, it was um,"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "it was some location or field near Nerburgg, I believe, if I'm not"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "mistaken. Um, what was uncovered is that I believe"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "in the 1500s or 16 or 1400s there, 1500s, yeah, there was a wood carving from an"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "incident that happened there, a mass sighting. The coordinates 49.27 27 north and 11.5 east fall inside a"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "historically active region of southern Germany tied to unexplained aerial events, cold war intelligence, and"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "recurring crop formations. The location sits within the same corridor as the 1561 Nerburgg mass sighting. Now, this"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "mass sighting was a mass daylight event witnessed by hundreds of residents of Nerburgg on the morning of April 14th,"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "1561. At dawn, people reported seeing dozens of strange objects in the sky described"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "as spheres, cylinders, crosses, and rodshaped forms moving rapidly and"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "appearing to collide as if engaged in aerial battle. Some of the objects were"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "said to fall toward the ground outside the city, after which a large black spear or arrow-shaped object reportedly"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "appeared overhead. The event was recorded in a woodcut and pamphlet by"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "Hans Glazer who framed it as a frightening sign from the heavens."}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "A mass sighting from um a lot of different individuals where there was some sort of uh um aerial combat that"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "was taking place. And in this woodcut, you could see that one of the one of these aerial crap was shot down and was"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "smoking on the ground. from what I remember from from looking at the image and that there were there were like"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "spears and uh rods and orbs that were I guess in some sort of conflict that the"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "people were witnessing which I found uh odd um that that that was in a message"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "that I had written down almost non-coherently in a hotel room bathroom"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "standing there almost in my birthday suit, you know, you know, and and this just came to me"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "is so you can imagine what that does to your your mind being told that"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "you wrote something down and it and it has and you you don't know what these, you know, boxes and lines mean, but"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "somebody's able to decode it and it's a clear message. You you sent that out not knowing"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "anything like not knowing if it's binary, not knowing anything whatsoever. I sent I gave that to her saying, \"Good"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "luck with this.\" Yeah, it's probably gibberish. Good luck. This is going to be nothing. And it"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "comes back with an actual message. An actual comprehensive message that"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "just it just threw me back. How does that Did that terrify you? That would scare part pardon my French. It"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:52", "text": "would scare the out of me. It kind of did. And you know, if uh you reached out to Linda and you talk with"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "her and uh she would identify the conversations that we have over the phone. Yeah. It it kind of freaked me"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "out a little bit. And she she she will be honest to say that yeah, I it brought"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "me to tears a few times. Um it uh it shaken me into my core quite a bit. Um"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "how did your wife handle that? I I can't speak for her. She was"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "supportive, but at the same time, did it freak her out as well? It it made her seriously think or rethink things in"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "her head. Um it it affected her as well. um"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "that what I wrote down in that hotel bathroom was"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "it's hard to it's hard to comprehend or it's hard it's difficult to digest the information that's being told to you"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "know to understand that you had um the gibberish that you put down turned out"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "to be something uh much more profound and and I think that that's what was hard for me to to digest but it just"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "gets worse burger gets better. However you want to look at things, everyone's everyone's different."}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "It progresses. It progresses definitely. Um, so within this uh first message,"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "we're also given coordinates or what seems like distances between Earth and"}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "Orion and then Earth and Zeticuli because Zeticuli happens to be 39 some"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:27", "text": "light years away from Earth. Is that something you knew? No,"}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "I did not know. I didn't know what what that was when when they were talking about the 39 point something, you know,"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "I was like, \"What is that, Miles?\" Cuz that's not very far. And then then they're saying, \"No, this is more than"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "likely uh light years.\" And it was like light years. How far is a lightyear? I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "know what this is. I mean, I know there's there's speeds associated with with um how how fast light travels from"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "point A to point B. um in a in a earth year, but uh I I yeah I I really didn't."}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "And so were you ever like cuz this is just so wild like to"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "anyone out there listening like you you you go from you know"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "there's no there's no two ways to interpret this information. No, there's not. It's either you choose to accept it or"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "you choose to ignore it. But there's no fitting this into any type of model, right?"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "There's it doesn't fit anywhere. You're you're given clearly um a message through some type of code"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "and that message turns out to be this seeming this this warning"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "of beings or or or at least a star system of Orion and Zeta Reticuli. And"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "then it tells you to avoid the messages sent or maybe avoid sending messages or"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "Right. And then looking up the Nermberg woodcut. That's right. Was also like for me it was like"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "that's part of the warning too I suppose. I mean but what's happening in this woodcut? What's going on? What's what's transpiring?"}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "Yeah. We can almost assume like cuz you said there was like a recovery or something on that on that wood cut, right? There's like smoke plume and"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "there's something on the ground. Um, do you think that's what they're referring to when they say expose hidden knowledge"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "to all citizens and with that coordinate? I don't want to interpret what"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "someone else thinks or or or or comes to the conclusion of, but I I take it as a"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "warning. I I perceive it as a warning. Others may perceive it in a different different light, but uh that to me is is"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "is a little bit shocking. Um, also going back to the Zetto Reticuli and uh, uh,"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "what was the other one? Um, Orion. Orion. Um, when you when I looked up the light"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "years, it wasn't with a point. It for, you know, when I looked it up, it just"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "said it's roughly, you know, you know, what is it? 39 point something. Yeah, 39.17."}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "When you look it up, it just says 39. You know, what is the 7? What What does that mean? What's the what? Why is there"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "a point in a seven? Like what is that near the star but not on the star? I"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "mean like that's what that's what was throwing me off a little bit was like what what is exactly at that at that"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:32", "text": "point. You know what I mean? Okay. Now once we grab the"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "uh let's say subtext of this code, you"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "start to you're able to grab um different letters from here and there"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "that are all capitalized, let's say, and and put them together. And this is part of that code system that allows you to"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "do that. When you do that on this first uh transmission, you get check all AI."}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "Check all AI. Yeah. Now 2015, we didn't have AI."}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "It wasn't really a thing. Nobody was even talking about it really, you know, maybe in a sci-fi book or something or or we had thought of the"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "concept of AI, but we had not there was no public, you know, use of AI by any"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "means, right? Um I find that to be quite alarming."}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "Absolutely. And what would be the benefit to expose hidden knowledge to"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "I guess get us all on the same playing field? I mean I I that part I I've really been"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "thinking about um a lot because it just stood out to me and so I started"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "thinking about it. It was like, well, if we're if we're keeping it under wraps, we're keeping it under"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "um dark projects or uh um groups that keep"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "it really under wraps, what are they benefiting from it other than, you know,"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "technology, military technology kind of stuff. Yeah, we want to u um be able to defend"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "ourselves against adversaries, right? So, when you have these dark projects,"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "I'm just I'm just going off my own opinion here. um nothing per se. But"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "when you have these dark projects and they're they're working to reverse"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "engineer or um use the information to uh"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "better military advancements where we're able to um have the upper"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "hand per se and in and in and conflicts with our neighbors. We want to be able"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "to have the technology to be able to defend ourselves. I mean, of course, that's what just about every country does, do they not? I believe. So,"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "when I think about that message and I think about uh how far have we come"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "with these things happening behind closed doors and limited amount of eyes looking at"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "them and scientists looking at them, we're not going to progress as fast that way. We're not going to be able to um"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "evolve. Hm. With the right speed that we need to be evolving at. So maybe I interpret that"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "as maybe these shouldn't be dark projects. Maybe they should be a little"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "bit more open. And no, you can't you can't uh discuss weapons to the public."}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "You don't want to do that because you don't want people going haywire with all the information and creating all kinds"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "of chaos for everybody. So yeah, some things definitely need to be under wraps. However, a lot of things could be"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "open. You know, maybe uh our universities and colleges can start programs and education to, you know,"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "better ourselves, you know, where we have more students uh studying studying this type of stuff and have it in a more"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "open environment where it's not so shadow shadowed. Advance us in our in"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "our transportation systems. Advance us in energy. us in lots of different things that we could use this technology"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "for. And so maybe that's what uh I believe that's indicating, you know, of"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "course we don't want to open source it. We don't want um um a random civilian"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "just building bombs and stuff out of a or any hostile adversary for that matter or hostiles. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "Okay. Great point. And yes, I do think that"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "obviously and it says here advancement imperative for planetary survival, which"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "I think is an interesting choice of words. It's not human survival. It's not"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "um alien survival, it's planetary survival, which scares me a little bit"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "because I think, you know, I always think that, yeah, okay, we eradicate ourselves, the planet will be just fine."}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "In fact, it'll probably be better off, you know, eventually. Yeah. Uh but planetary survival is interesting."}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "Absolutely. And that and I believe that goes back to, you know, nuclear weapons. That's right. That's very destructive."}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "It's a very we we've done some very destructive things. I agree. To ourselves and to our planet."}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "Uh we we don't take in consideration the uh the uh environment"}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "um and and the impacts that uh uh it would have on our environment. And so I"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "do believe that um we need to be a little bit more cautious when when we're developing things and uh consider you"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "know our ecosystem and and and life cuz we're not the only ones here you know."}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "Yep. And that is echoing exactly what every experiencer has ever been told by"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "their abductors. Um this is not uncommon that they also"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "you know clearly believe it's imperative that we take care of this place for whatever reason for our survival for"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "theirs uh for just the you know a mutual benefit right and could this have a"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "double meaning could this mean that we are getting out of hand and uh"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "we might find ourselves threatened by uh an an uh a foreign entity for foreign"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "and uh a foreign adversary, you know, that's not from our our planet. So, um"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "yes, it could it it could have several different meanings behind it. All citizens as well. This is everyone."}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "Yeah. Um okay. So this is the first already we're"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "seeing the technical sort of advanced version of"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "this binary come into come into play here as multiple codes. This is like"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "some Dainci code stuff. This is like a puzzle. It's insane. Um and you love puzzles."}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "I love p this is absolutely a puzzle. This is my favorite puzzle ever. Right."}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "Um now we get into uh the second message. Now, let me pull this up here."}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "Let me get back here to where I was. The second message, October,"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "uh, this is October to, uh, January 2016. Now, there are multiple messages"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "here that combine to make this, right? And I'm just going to go ahead and read"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "the first message, not the decoded versions, because there are again sub"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:35", "text": "messages within the messages, right? Um, this is where Oh, by the way,"}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:41", "text": "before I actually get to this, Dr. Dr. Drew pointed out something really, really fascinating with the crop"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "circles. Oh, yes. Right. So, and this relates mostly to that first message. If we look at"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "specifically there is a crop circle. There are um a few crop circles, but"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "there was the well-known um Aerosibo reply. So in 2001, a crop"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "formation appeared inside the Chill Bolton Observatory that many believe mirrors a reply to the 1974 Aerosibo"}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "radio message. The symbolic signal designed by Frank Drake with help of Carl Sean and Linda Salsman Sean and"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "transmitted from the Aerosibo Observatory. That original signal described basic"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "human biology, DNA, and our location in the solar system. and the Chill Bolton"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "formation appeared to mimic the same digital structure, but obviously with some key differences, including biology"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "and where they were located in their star system. One year later in 2002, another unsettling formation appeared at"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "Crabwood, showing the face of what many described as a gray alien beside a disc"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "of spiral binary, revealing the warning, \"Beware the bearers of false gifts and"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "their broken promises.\" Much pain but still time. Believe there"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "is good out there. We oppose deception. Conduit closing. Then in 2015, a massive"}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "binary style formation appeared again near Turin, echoing the same warning style layout and reinforcing the pattern"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "people had already noticed along with the Latin phrase timo at Ferentes."}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "I fear those who bear gifts. Um, so in 2002 there's this message that"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "pops up with this beautiful work of art of what seems to be like a gray alien."}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "Three dimensions. Yeah. It has a pupil. Right. Right. Which normally you don't see, and we'll get to that in a second."}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "Right. Right. Right. Um, which I found very interesting. You then have this massive circle that has"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "all these dots that seems to be some type of encoded message. And then you have these three sort of lights that"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "kind of represent Orion's belt which again for many reasons very"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "fascinating. And the message translates to beware the bearers of false gifts and"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "their broken promises. And it shows the Orion constellation and"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "it shows these sort of grays or whatever. And now we have your message which says beware of Orion. Now there's"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "two things here that say beware and they're both picturing Orion. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "that's that's what's so confusing for me is"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "there's so many similarities with so many different things that"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "they require more uh in-depth look. Yeah. And so that's that's where I get"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "intrigued is is how how so many different things line up"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "with others. It's it's it really throws you back. It lines up with what Bob Lazar was talking about too with, you know, when"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "he was briefed in those documents, it said that the craft and the beings, the kids as he refers to them as were from"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "Zeta Reticuli. Oh wow. Yeah. So, and then obviously Zeta's reticuli"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "pops up. The first time we ever hear about it, not the first time we hear about it, but the first time we see a diagram was from Betty and Barney Hill."}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "Okay. Was Betty Hill was shown this diagram of like this star map and she drew it and then it was lined up years later once we"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "discovered this binary star system um that it it kind of matched Zeta the Zeta"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "constellation kind of perfectly. Oh, wow. So, there is something really important about that. I don't know what it is, but"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "you know, clearly it seems like we're warned about it, right?"}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "All right. This brings us to our next message. And I'm sorry I'm droning on here, but I really want to drive it home"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "to the viewers. I I There's a lot of information here. Oh, absolutely. And so, I'm sorry if I'm taking up a lot"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "of the airspace, guys. I'm just kind of running you through this. I could talk for hours."}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "This is endlessly fascinating to me. Right. So, the next message here reads as"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "follows. imminent threat soon upon Earth's leaders and ci civilizations."}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "Right. There's a bit of a deviation there. Yeah, deviation. We can assume it's civilizations. Uh expose and disband"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "hidden knowledge to all citizens. Once again, employ safe and controlled joint"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "study to all minds. Progression imperative for joint for combined survival."}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "So in this particular text, one word that stands out to me right up top is the word imminent. Now where have we"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "heard that before? Right. Lou Alzando's Lou Alzando. Yes. Do you think um that that title is a"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "reference to this in some way? I'm unsure. I mean it's it's one word."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "Um I'm sure it's been used many times by others. I don't know if uh it came to him."}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "Do you think Lou was aware of this? I'm not sure if he was. Um"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "that I don't know. Um I I worked with Linda uh pretty"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "exclusively for quite a while. Um so I mean there's a possibility that uh um he"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "may have known about it or he may not have. Um I I really don't I really don't know. I mean it's just one word."}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "True. Um, but it's impactful, you know, it's that's another similarity, you know, kind of thing."}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "Yeah. So, I I I'm a little bit curious, but, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "one's only to assume. Yeah. And then again, expose and disband hidden knowledge to all citizens. Again,"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "all citizens expose hidden knowledge. And this time"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "they put disband in there as well. Expose, disband. Yeah. So, yeah. When I think about that, you"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "know, I have a military mind, you know, and we don't want we don't want to put"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "out weapon systems to all citizens, you know, because we don't want all civilians building weapon systems in"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "their garages and creating chaos. And we have we, you know, there's there's many"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "incidents where somebody's mind just snaps and uh they want to shoot up a a"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "mall or school or something. So, yeah. Um, I believe there there there needs to"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "be some some uh restraint on some things. So, so yeah, I think that falls"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "into the category of this band, right? Yeah. Yeah, that would make a lot of"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "sense. You don't want to expose all of that. Mhm. But what can be beneficial for, you"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "know, for us is transportation, you know, um"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:46", "text": "other things such as that. Employ safe and controlled joint study"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "to all minds. Once again, safe and controlled. Yeah, that makes sense to me."}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "Progression imperative for combined survival. What do you think they mean by"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "that? So, in my mind, when I think of combined survival is maybe um we're not"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "the only country that that has black projects and study things. I'm sure there's a there's a uh race"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "uh involving behind this that's kind of in the back in the shadows, you know. um"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "like a nuclear race type deal or a techn technological race just just like a a race to the moon, a"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "race for nuclear weapons, a race for, you know, I'm sure there's a race going on in the background, you know,"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "um to to develop these these uh systems and be able to travel quicker, faster,"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "and get from point A to point B quicker, more effectively. So, I'm I'm sure there's I'm pretty sure there's there's"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "some background stuff going on that uh other countries are doing as well. And so, maybe I think that's a reference to"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "maybe some of these things uh should should be brought to light. Is that an educated guess?"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "Just an educated guess, you know, that's just my military mindset of thinking. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, we have United Nations"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "for a reason, you know. Um why not? Why not uh all of us come together and start"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "sharing some information for for some of these things. Not all of these things, but for some of these things."}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "Yeah. Trash and nukes, too. While we're at it, let's get rid of those things because apparently they're just causing nothing but chaos."}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "We all agreed we're not going to use them. We can't use them. I mean, so why have them? Exactly. Let's get rid of them all and let's"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "focus on other things. Here. Here. 100,000 likes in this video and we'll get rid of the nukes. Uh, absolutely. No nukes. No nukes."}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "No more nukes. I think we can all agree. I think I think I'm on board with that one. That's something. You don't need to"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "be left, right, you can be wherever you want. Let's get rid of those things, man. Those things are trash. Um,"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "okay. Now, we get into in this paragraph, there are some there are some things that stand out."}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "And the first one that stands out to me is"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "the word Eisenhower. That's kind of crazy. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "Um, what do you know about Eisenhower? I know very little, but it was before my"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "time. So, yeah, I don't know much. I know he was a was a military man before prior to becoming a"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "president. So, um, that that's about as much knowledge I have on Eisenhower."}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "And then under that there's Majestic. What do you know about that? Yeah, I Googled that. There's I guess"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "there's some uh other things going on with uh I believe it was like Majestic 12 or something. Some sort of secret"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "government um program. I don't know anything about"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "that. Um I'm sure it probably does exist. Who knows? Maybe it doesn't. Maybe it's something somebody thought"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "up. Yeah. But uh I have no knowledge. So when you got that information back from Dr. Drew,"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "did he fill you in on what Majestic was or did you like take it upon yourself to like I'm going to Google this and figure it out?"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "He he brought it up to me and kind of gave me a rundown of what it what it entails and then I did a Google search"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "after and and tried to get some of my own information and my own interpretations, but uh I I really I"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:19", "text": "can't speak upon that because I don't know much about it besides what I've read, you know, through uh social media"}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "and Google, things like that. and what I've learned from others."}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "So, I'm not really familiar with um that stuff. It is interesting that in the first part"}, {"start": "01:44:31", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "where it says imminent threat soon upon earth's leaders and civilizations expose and dismant hidden knowledge to all"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "citizens in that you find the word Eisenhower. Wow. In those two lines, right? So we have"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "like a specific reason Eisenhower was brought up with these two first lines, the"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "imminent threat, the leaders of civilizations obviously, and then hidden knowledge, expose all hidden knowledge"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "to to maybe some message for Eisenhower or to let you know that hey, he has the"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "an like he was given this information like maybe he was part of maybe he was a"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "part of Majestic 12 or in 19 Yeah, 1954 52 or I think 52 maybe"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "54, but I think 52. Um there is a document that came out um the Eisenhower briefing,"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "right? Which allegedly he was briefed by I think was it General Twining or"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "might have been Forestall. uh they basically briefed him about crash that had happened in Roswell and"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "multiple others and kind of told him we need to band together and create some"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "type of uh group that can disseminate this information to the public and then can control you know what we found. And"}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "so they've got together 12 of like the uh most powerful minds in you know various sectors from sciences to uh"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "biology and everything in between politics and whatnot and uh formed this"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "majestic 12 uh so to speak and and even we see you know the majestic"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "uh verbiage or at least abbreviation still being used in 1989 by Bob Lazar on"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "his patch where it said you know majestic clearance or Maj and so then on the second part we have"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "employ safe and control joint study to all minds progression imperative and there we have the word majestic right"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "and then I oh that's a little bit later I think or is that here no ILI which"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "could be 52 uh and and that 52 was like the DC flyover you know and and if you look at"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "even the are you familiar with Beatatric V Royale"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "that name doesn't ring a bell so she brilliant astronomer uh um she basically had a peer-reviewed"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "paper recently showing these transient lights that appeared on these plates that date back to 1952."}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "Okay. And when comparing them with today's skies, those lights aren't there. And so"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "and then they found out this happens like in in the Earth's shadow or what like basically proving that there are"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "these without a shadow of a doubt there are reflective"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "objects prior to us having satellites in space that were there."}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "Oh wow. And we have proof of that. And she just uh put out this peer-reviewed paper which is incredible and pretty much"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "disclosure in my opinion. Um, but what what I found interesting is"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "that during the flyover, the exact day of the flyover, you have these transients in the sky there as well. So, another"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "that's pretty wild. Yeah, another fun connection. Um,"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:46", "text": "okay. Lots of connections, dude. This is blowing my mind right now."}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "Yeah. And going back to the 12. Yep. That's It's so wild to think about that."}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "the government behind closed doors are have 12 12 individuals um deciding"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "things for us that we have no oversight of."}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:14", "text": "That's pretty scary too when I think about it. That number's probably grown. Yeah, it's probably it's probably not 12"}, {"start": "01:48:14", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "anymore. No. Um probably close to 27. No oversight. Making decisions for"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hoping that they make good decisions. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "they make good good decisions for us, but uh yeah. Um"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "I don't know. We didn't elect them. No, exactly. We didn't elect them. Um"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "okay, we get we get to the next message here and we're going to paste ourselves through these if that's fine."}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "Absolutely. Embrace this. And then it says space in"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "parenthesis. And I don't know if that's just a liberty from um from Dr. Drew,"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "but embrace this vessel threat 000"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "journey and then in brackets 12 and then ly is in light years."}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "Ike's embedded citizens are ready. Ike being another reference to Eisenhower,"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "right? Uh and his embedded citizens are ready. I don't even we'll get to that. And then"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "disclose evolve and then a bunch of ones. 1111. What do you make of that message?"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "Most of it's pretty baffling to me. Um, it could be interpreted in several"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "different ways. I mean, uh, you got to keep in mind that this is"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "what I'm writing when I wake up, you know. So, I'm I'm not fully coherent"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "being woke, you know, waking up to this and writing it down. So, it it's still throwing me back that, you know, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "half awake and writing these things down and they're making uh they they they"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "have meaning behind them. And so, I I'm still is it's a lot to digest, you know,"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "for one person to digest a bit. So, I mean, I I look at things and and I have"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:16", "text": "to do it in small sections. Yeah. And really think about things in small sections to really have a thought on it."}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:21", "text": "And some of it is just, you know, it's just kind of out of my realm to be honest with you. So some of this some of"}, {"start": "01:50:21", "end": "01:50:27", "text": "this is I I don't know what the meaning is behind it. I just kind of take it as it is."}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "That's so wild, man. Yeah. You know, it' be one thing if I was sitting here with somebody who's like,"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "you know, on Discord all day talking about aliens and like, you know, doing"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:48", "text": "doing research like me or something, but you're you're none of that. You're not readily involved in any of that, are"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "you? No. No. No. I I you know, I relatively live a"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "pretty private life. Yeah. I do play a phone game and I do have a Discord with associated with that phone"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "phone game. Yeah. But, you know, my my Discord that I'm on um are are roughly about, you know, my"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "King's Throne alliance. Yeah. Clash of Clans or whatever it is. Yeah. you know, it's it's it's my it's my you know, the alliance that I'm part"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "of and we discuss game stuff. I mean, you're not talking about aliens with anybody. Not really. I mean, uh that's not a"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:26", "text": "common conversation piece, you know what I mean? Um yeah, we share things and and"}, {"start": "01:51:26", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "vacations and things that we go on. uh people buy a new car, new truck and"}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "yeah, they discuss things like that or but generally we we we discuss things within our little group and what we're"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "doing on the game and how to improve and beat the other alliance. And you're not a UFO researcher is what I'm"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "asking. No. Okay. No, that's you know that's that's something that needs to be made clear here. You're"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "not a UFO. You've maybe become somewhat of a researcher because I I think anyone"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "would over time. Yes. And then and over you know um after this then yes I start I"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "start to watch some more videos and try to to try to get some clarity and understanding with what's happening with"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "me um and and and look for you know people who have gone through some"}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:23", "text": "similar thing to help me um identify myself with other other other people you"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "know out there cuz I I you kind of feel alone. alone and uh in the dark you you"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "feel very singled out I guess in my mind frame I feel very singled out I feel"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "alone but I know I'm you know just after a little bit of research that there other people have gone through some"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "similar things and that that provides a little bit comfort you know for me to"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "deal with um but in the beginning yeah"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "Linda will tell you it's it's a little bit scary And I I felt a little scared, you know, in the in the beginning part."}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "And it takes a lot it takes a lot of courage for me to say that because I I I'm usually I'm not afraid of anything."}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:12", "text": "I you know, I don't care how big the guy is. I'll take him on. I don't care. I might I might get my butt whipped, but"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "he's going to feel me the next day. You know, I mean, I'm just that type of person. But when it comes to things like"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "this where things you don't have any control over, uh that's what I guess"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "that what brings out my my uh my fear a little bit. Yeah. Something else is kind of in"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "control a little bit, right? Yeah. It's unsettling."}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "Um okay. I mean, what it's all pretty self-evident here. Um, embrace this"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "vessel threat. I don't know what that means. Journey 12 light years. Your guess is as good as mine. You know,"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "might be something 12 light years away. Something's on its way. What when I think of this is there there"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "may be some other vessel out there that's monitoring us. And um when it"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "when it describes threat, you know, um that that tells me that uh we we we"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "could be threatened or we could have a threat, you know, at some point. When I think about that, it also uh brings back"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "um some thought that we need to evolve quicker. I mean, why"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "do we need why need why do we need to advance and evolve quicker? Um and is it because there is a threat? Um,"}, {"start": "01:54:33", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "yeah, it's it's it's there's a lot to wrap your brain around. Yeah. I mean, there's the word threat there. There's definitely a word threat."}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "It's not no avoiding that. Um, and Ike's embedded citizens already. I"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "don't even know what to do with that. Is that Are we talking about hybrids here? Are we talking about some type of"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:55:00", "text": "genetically altered beings that live among us that he agreed to? Like I mean it's you can extrapolate so much from"}, {"start": "01:55:00", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "the Absolutely. Um and then in red and blue you have MAG 12"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:14", "text": "and then CIA and a CIA you know um happens to be in"}, {"start": "01:55:14", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "the IKE embedded citizens already and that's where the so that's maybe where"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "the the government maybe have created some sort of uh group or organization"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "around that time and maybe the CIA was involved in it you know I mean we I don't know. I mean, the FBI, CIA could"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:38", "text": "have been involved in it in the beginning and it morphed into something different. Yeah. You know, which ended up being Majestic"}, {"start": "01:55:38", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "12 or uh a whole different other, you know, shadowed group."}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "All right. And finally, for this bit of transmission, because there are many more,"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "several. Yeah, quite a bit. We'll get into a few of them, right? Uh but right now for to end this one it says royal emerther"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "warning in capital expose foreign technology to all"}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover. Explo expose foreign"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "technology to all evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover."}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "Right? I mean, okay, first of all, emerther seem to be the race here that we're"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:31", "text": "dealing with. Royal Emer warning, right? Emer is confusing me because I've never heard of this before and I I had to do a"}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:39", "text": "lot of Google researching to see what I can come up with whatther means. And uh"}, {"start": "01:56:39", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "the only thing that I was able to to find out and this was with the help of Linda was like at some point in our past"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "um we had met with some sort of immer um some sort of alien species um that"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "referred to themselves as what royal means I I'm not sure because"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "you know if if they're if they're an advanced al alien species I I think the"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "times of royaless this would have would have been way in the past, you know, like they've advanced way beyond that. I"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "mean, we still have royal families, you know, that are living on, you know,"}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "different countries and such. So, I mean, yeah, we still have those aspects of things, but you think that would be done away with."}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:31", "text": "You think that would be gone, but you know, um, but also perceives or maybe it the royal was like"}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "some sort of symbology or meaning that it's it should be taken more seriously."}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:44", "text": "M you know like maybe this is a metaphor for something more serious. Yeah. To taking like higherups within the"}, {"start": "01:57:44", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "royally important of of importance you know of uh this particular species um"}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "yeah you know group or how they determine things"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "or maybe you know leaders you know within their or within their their uh"}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "Yeah. Maybe it's just how they refer to species. Um, but we do still use the term majestic, which is very close to"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "Yeah. royalty, you know, or majesty, right? And so that's still I think there's a lot of symbology there"}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "some type of like tie into to this. Um,"}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "yeah. And then, yeah, so I mean that is very enigmatic to say the least."}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "Um, now I'd like to get into we're going to we're going to segue"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:43", "text": "segue. Yeah. from from this little diddy here and all of these incredible messages"}, {"start": "01:58:43", "end": "01:58:49", "text": "that were deciphered that you know you had simply doodled on a paper followed"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "by WTF and then and then they got deciphered into this incredible message here that"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:59:01", "text": "you know if if if it has any significance is"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "extremely concerning uh if not just for a wake-up call but can be you know I"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "mean it said the Last paragraph says evolutionary advancement needed to prevent takeover,"}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "right? What are we talking about here? What do you what's your sense on that? Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "that would be a little scary to me because I', you know, we'd like to live our lives comfortably and go to work,"}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "come home, spend time with our family. So, anything that involves any kind of takeover, that that's a that's a warning"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "to me. That I take that as a warning some some type of way. And uh yeah, uh I"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "don't want to be taken over. I don't think anyone would would want to be taken over. So yeah, I I I perceive that"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "as a as a warning in some some fashion and that we're kind of working with them is what I get from this too. Like that"}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "at least one group here that seems to be like, \"Hey, we need your help, right?\""}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "Cuz otherwise, why even tell us about it, right? They're probably trying to recruit us for something or be like, \"Hey, wake up. We need to like come"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "together and like we need you guys to hurry up and evolve.\" Absolutely. So you can help us out with this"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "imminent threat soon upon Earth's leaders and civilizations,"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:21", "text": "right? Um so you know I I consider myself a uh a deep thinker. I"}, {"start": "02:00:21", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "I look at things from many different angles. And when I do that and I look at"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "history, I there's a lot of indications. There's a lot of indications that uh"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:41", "text": "this has been going on for thousands and thousands of years. I mean, I believe it was going on with the uh Egyptians,"}, {"start": "02:00:41", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "ancient Egypt. I believe it was going on in Easter Island. I believe it's been going on in Peru. And there's several"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:53", "text": "different locations all across our planet that point out and indicate some"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "advanced technology, some advanced proof that uh they've been associated with us"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:06", "text": "throughout time. So, I do believe that not only do we"}, {"start": "02:01:06", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "have several different species that uh has been interacting with us throughout"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "all of history, I also believe that as some of some of these cases, some of"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "these things that have been happening could be in fact um future versions of"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:31", "text": "ourselves uh visiting ourselves, you know, from What gives you that impression?"}, {"start": "02:01:31", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "What gives me that impression is that uh um I don't have any I don't have any"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "proof of any concrete evidence but just I don't Yeah, I don't have any concrete evidence. is just some of the things"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "that that I've read and seen online just just indicate more or less that uh we"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:56", "text": "are uh maybe maybe in the future we developed uh a version of time travel"}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "and we visited our ancient selves which would be us right now. Mhm."}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "And to try to help guide us into a a better future, you know, in some way. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "In some fashion. So man, I wouldn't I would not put that past um that uh we"}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "are sometimes seeing future versions of ourselves mixed in with all these different other alien species."}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "That makes sense. So there is um you know we talked about this over dinner a little bit yesterday, but like if you were to um send back"}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "information in time, I think it would look like binary. It would look like binary, right? Uh because if you were"}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:41", "text": "able to take photons and sort of, you know, flip them from, you know, these"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "particles, flip them from positive to negative, you know, over a distance, over an infinite"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "distance because they're entangled on a quantum level. They would instantly flip"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "on the other side of that. but not only through distance but through time because it's quantum and and time uh you"}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "know these these things aren't beholden to time or space. So you could"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "essentially and maybe I'm talking out of my ass here but I I feel like you could"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:16", "text": "sort of suspend these quantum bits or whatever right"}, {"start": "02:03:16", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "in one orientation in space and time at this very place."}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "wait a bunch of years and they'll be there for you when you get to over there at this point in time."}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:33", "text": "Yeah. At this point in space and time and then you can just manipulate them and they would automatically change them"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:40", "text": "back then too because they're entangled, right? And so you'd be essentially able to communicate through time"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "using like photonic, you know, communication in a way. Okay, photons are very impressive and uh yes"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:55", "text": "they the way they the way they operate is is is quite"}, {"start": "02:03:55", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "fascinating. However, with lasers and and things such as that uh photons do"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "dissipate over over vast distances. So, I mean, um, like like we're when we're"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:14", "text": "studying, uh, um, solar systems and, uh, stars, you know, the further the star is"}, {"start": "02:04:14", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "away from us, the the dimmer the light is, and sometimes you can't see it with the naked eye, you have to use sensors"}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "and many different things to to be able to draw uh or or to be able to pick up"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "that light, but that light dissipates over time. The photons dissipate, but they also have the ability to move"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "around and uh, go through things. So uh yeah I don't think we fully understand"}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:44", "text": "the photons very well and I think we probably should you know look into look into that further but uh yeah there"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "is some I see I see some benefits but there you know yeah and it would make sense with the"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "sort of future human hypothesis at least right uh when you look at Jim Pennson or you look at a case like yours where"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "information needs to be given to you and the only way to do that in a coherent"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "manner or, you know, maybe using these binary impressions or whatever that are"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:15", "text": "kind of like quantumly suspended in spaceime and just being like here, I don't know, maybe that's all science"}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:23", "text": "fiction, but you know, here we are. Um, I'd like to go back now to"}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "June 29th and your encounter. Okay."}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "you have since then um recalled more information through"}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:43", "text": "dreams that you've had. Right. Right. And through other experiences. Yes. That you've had subsequently. The"}, {"start": "02:05:43", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "messages have also since evolved into different lettering now voices also"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "impressions, dreams like you're the transmissions haven't stopped. Correct. They've"}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:06:01", "text": "gone on consistently. Oh, they've slowed down. They slowed down for a while. They they they slowed down quite a bit. Uh so"}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "I was getting the boxes and lines several years ago and then they kind of shifted to to uh lettering"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "capitalization and lowercase and then that was only for a very short period of"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "time and then they've evolved into I'm hearing uh the voices. I'm hearing voices. I'm hearing messages."}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "Male or female? Um mostly female but uh sometimes male. Mostly female."}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "Mostly female. Sometimes male. What is the tone of voice? Is it stern? Is it happy? Is it calm?"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "The the tone has been for the most part pretty calm and at times stern uh with"}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "the with the female voices sometimes. The male voices have been informative"}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "and comforting but can get stern at times uh just with tone. But it's for"}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:58", "text": "the most part I want to say it never um overly um aggressive, never overly"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "friendly. No extremes. No extremes. Just mild subtleties and it"}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "is more or less just informative. Can you give me an example of what that would sound like if if a male voice were"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "to if you were to interpret verbatim what one of these messages were? Can you"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "give me a small example of what that would sound like to my ears? Yeah, I mean anybody could I mean it's just"}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "talking to Siri really similar just not with such high"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "fluctuations and excitement. Uh Siri is super excited about everything"}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:38", "text": "but you know you tone that down quite a bit and it's just you know"}, {"start": "02:07:38", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "justformational regularformational. The sky is blue like that type of deal there. sky is blue and just subtly very"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:51", "text": "subtly that's got to be a whole other thing"}, {"start": "02:07:51", "end": "02:07:59", "text": "that freaks you out. Well, that mixed with images mixed with um"}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "going back to the the first time u since then I'm had I told you you know over"}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "dinner the other last night that uh I've had some more dreams based on that"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:17", "text": "night. Uh not a lot, just a few. Uh, and all it is is just remembering"}, {"start": "02:08:17", "end": "02:08:23", "text": "a point in time that I didn't I I wasn't aware of when it happened. And that was"}, {"start": "02:08:23", "end": "02:08:31", "text": "uh uh my driver side door was open and I was being pulled from my my truck and I"}, {"start": "02:08:31", "end": "02:08:38", "text": "was being held and it was only a short flashback moment. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "And in that flashback moment, maybe it lasted"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "8 to 11 seconds uh in that flashback moment, but I rem I clearly remember um"}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:56", "text": "seeing my wife in the passenger seat almost frozen in time,"}, {"start": "02:08:56", "end": "02:09:03", "text": "still staring up at it. You know, why I'm being pulled and struggling. Um and"}, {"start": "02:09:03", "end": "02:09:11", "text": "why I'm struggling, I'm not seeing what I'm struggling with. So, I don't get a clear visual uh image of what I'm"}, {"start": "02:09:11", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "struggling with, of what I'm fighting with that's pulling me from the from from my truck, but I am seeing that I'm"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "I'm I'm uh fighting and and and making noises and grunting. And the whole time"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "I'm struggling, I'm looking for help. And so I'm I'm seeing and I'm seeing my"}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "wife sitting in the passenger seat just basically frozen in time looking up at"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:44", "text": "what we were looking at, you know, and I remember like help me. You're But she's"}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:50", "text": "not moving. She's like literally frozen and I'm being pulled away. And as I'm"}, {"start": "02:09:50", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "pulled around the door is where and then start to pull uh it disappears. And then"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "it reappears as I'm directly underneath it. And I remember I feel uh I told you"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "at dinner uh right as I'm getting closer to it that I I cross like some sort of"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "field where outside when I was outside you were hearing crickets and insects and stuff."}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "As soon as I cross that that first field, it goes dead silent and I feel it"}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "interacting with my body in some way. And I can't write I can't quite describe the feeling going through that first"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:35", "text": "field. I do clearly recognize that it got dead silent as soon as I crossed"}, {"start": "02:10:35", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "that first field. And then I went into another field. And when I crossed that second field, as I was getting closer,"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "that's when I began to feel more weightlessness. And uh it was like a sudden I felt more"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:54", "text": "weightlessness and like I couldn't move fast but it felt weightless to me. And"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:11:02", "text": "so I I clearly remember you know maybe 7 seconds of that going through the each"}, {"start": "02:11:02", "end": "02:11:10", "text": "field. And that first field it was like silence and the second field was weightlessness. And then I feel uh uh"}, {"start": "02:11:10", "end": "02:11:15", "text": "maybe a few more seconds of tugging like an electric an electric charge. Is that what this field felt like?"}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "Kind of feel like an electric charge, but more or less like a uh"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:28", "text": "I I couldn't even put it into words. Um slowing my my uh slowing my reaction"}, {"start": "02:11:28", "end": "02:11:33", "text": "time down. Slowing slowing down my movements uh is the best way I could"}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:38", "text": "describe it. But your head is still functioning at a normal rate. I'm still looking around. I'm just not"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:46", "text": "able to whip my head around. I'm able to like moving through molasses or something. similar. Yes. Like slowed"}, {"start": "02:11:46", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "slowed motion uh slowed physical um motions. Okay. Is the best way I could"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "describe it and then it then it disappears again. And then um then I had"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "the the the dream where I was on the table and I was surrounded. It just goes back to that. And I drew an image. You"}, {"start": "02:12:07", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "have a you have a um an image that I had drew. Yep. where it showed the the species"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:19", "text": "that was around us. And uh in that in that picture um there was one that came"}, {"start": "02:12:19", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "in later um and took this black contact out of its eye to get a a better look at"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:34", "text": "me of some of some is the impression that I got. Okay. So you're let's take this uh step"}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:40", "text": "by step. You're coming into the craft now. All of a sudden you you've appeared on the table, right? This is the memories flashing."}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "Um, can you are you seeing the walls of the craft at all? Are you seeing any shapes?"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "Right. I I am I'm able to see the the the walls. I'm able to see uh things"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "around me. What do the walls look like? What are they? That's difficult because I wasn't staring at the walls, you know? My my"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "focus was on what are these things, you know? Okay, fair. How did my clothes get removed? So, you're naked?"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "Yes. You're naked on a hard surface. It wasn't a hard surface. I felt weightless."}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:15", "text": "You felt weightless. I felt weightless, but slowed reaction time. Slowed."}, {"start": "02:13:15", "end": "02:13:21", "text": "Okay. Slowed uh slow motion. Yeah. Like I guess slow my motion the my"}, {"start": "02:13:21", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "motions like like if I was going to punch the air, I could do it fast. But in that environment, I was punching and"}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "it was going slower and the power was still there, but it was it felt slowed."}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "And at one point, I do remember shoving the one off to my left pretty hard and"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "it went back and hit the wall. And I remember the wall was"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "I I didn't see any uh grooves or cuts or anything. Um like it was pieced"}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "together. I I couldn't quite tell what I mean because I wasn't really focused on the wall. I mean, I know there was a"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:59", "text": "wall there. I know it seemed smooth. I know it seemed like it had some sort of"}, {"start": "02:13:59", "end": "02:14:05", "text": "um almost like if you were looking at a motherboard slightly"}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "very similar motherboard without any electronic components attached to it, you know, like it's got uh it's got it's"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:17", "text": "got all the little um soldered circuitry in there but without"}, {"start": "02:14:17", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "any of the components attached. It's the best way I could describe. And it was"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:27", "text": "faint. And so, um, ju and that's just going off of like split second like"}, {"start": "02:14:27", "end": "02:14:33", "text": "y, you know, images. I was more focused on what was happening. So, you got you got, um, two to your"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:38", "text": "side and then you got two down by your feet."}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "Correct. Yeah. And, um, can you describe physically,"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:51", "text": "height, skin tone, complexion, what they look like for the audience? Well, they they're all roughly around"}, {"start": "02:14:51", "end": "02:14:58", "text": "the same size. They were not the exact same size. Um, there were, I believe, two or three that were focused on their"}, {"start": "02:14:58", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "tasks. Um, they were not associating my emotions with anything. They were just"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:11", "text": "focused on doing what they were supposed to be doing. There was one that uh that was down by my foot"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "uh that seemed a little bit older uh had u some age behind um it it's uh it its"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "appearance but was also trying to do its best to keep me calm. I was kind of freaking out"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "and so it was it was trying to calm me down, you know, and make me relax or"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "something. Um, the others just seemed like they were focused on their tasks. Like this is like this is what they do"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:45", "text": "all the time. They're used to this. They they showed very little emotion. The only one that did was the the one that"}, {"start": "02:15:45", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "looked a little bit older. Older, right? Like like the one that was in charge or maybe the one Mhm."}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:57", "text": "He seemed like individual like a like like one that that studied um"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "emotions and feelings or has been studying emotions or maybe. Wow. I mean, it it I have no idea what"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "position this this one had other than that it it was trying to relax me and"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:18", "text": "calm me down because I was feeling like some sharp pains in my back and along my neck. I would it would I was fine and"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "but I would feel like electric electric um pain, stabbing pain, like"}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:34", "text": "stabbing pain mixed with electricity, like shocks and jolts in my neck and my back. Um and so yeah, I I I remember"}, {"start": "02:16:34", "end": "02:16:40", "text": "that. And I remember the one that came in after took the contact out to to look at me. Um"}, {"start": "02:16:40", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "he took it out. Did he peel it? No, just just popped it out. Just popped out. It was like rubber or something, you know. It was like uh some"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "sort of I was under I was under the impression that maybe it uh it was some sort of"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:17:01", "text": "computer system that had some um imagery or some you know technology that can you"}, {"start": "02:17:01", "end": "02:17:06", "text": "know maybe see in our environment like this happen see a different spectrum"}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:14", "text": "spectrum of light maybe like it this happened at night maybe it was uh amplifying the darkness so that it could"}, {"start": "02:17:14", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "um pulled me from the truck. Like maybe this was one that was pulling me from the truck. And his eye color,"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:28", "text": "he had blue. He had blue eyes. Was it deep blue, dark blue, light blue? It looked natural like human."}, {"start": "02:17:28", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "Yeah, human blue. But the eyes were much larger. Yeah, much larger."}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:42", "text": "How big would you say? I would say two to three times. So, have you ever read the um the biology"}, {"start": "02:17:42", "end": "02:17:47", "text": "report of a guy who claimed that he worked on these beings? No, I did not."}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "Okay, this might be interesting for you then. I'm ready for that. Um I'm not going to go through the whole thing, but I will send you I made a"}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "whole video on it. Okay. But I will touch on what he said about the eyes. Okay. Um because he goes through u and maybe"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:05", "text": "maybe I'll go through the head and the ear here, but he goes through the brain, the fingers, it's a whole biology and he"}, {"start": "02:18:05", "end": "02:18:12", "text": "breaks it all down. And he said he worked on them. Oh wow. Okay. And um he goes like the head contains"}, {"start": "02:18:12", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "two large oversized eyes, two nostrils without protrance, a narrow mouth without lips, two ear canals without"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "oracles, and there is a mandible, but there is but the musculature is vestigial. There are no teeth, no tongue"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "in the oral cavity, nasal cavity where the nostrils meet, yada yada yada. Um"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "the eye, this is really interesting. Mhm. Like the skin, the eyes are covered"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:42", "text": "with a semi-transparent biosynthetic film that offers the same environmental protection while providing protection"}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "against certain wavelengths and light intensity. When the film is removed, a more traditional eye is revealed."}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "Okay. It's about three times larger than a human eye, and there are no eyelids."}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "The size of their eye suggests they have excellent night vision. It seems paradoxical to cover them with a semiopaque film. and he says semiopaque."}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:10", "text": "Right? This is something that I found extremely interesting because normally when we"}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "picture these grays, we think dark black eyes, right? Here we're and and that might only be"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "because it's nighttime when you see them, but here he says semi semiopaque. So, not completely"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:30", "text": "blacked out. Well, you don't want blind. Is that what you saw? Oh, I I I it appears black at night time."}, {"start": "02:19:30", "end": "02:19:37", "text": "At night time. But when you looked at the other ones, could you see their eyes behind there? There were um I wasn't focused on"}, {"start": "02:19:37", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "their eyes. I was focused on Yeah. This is hurting. What the hell's going on to me? I was in u fight mode."}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "Fair enough. Um so he peeled away his eye to have a closer look at you. And you that's what I that's what I noticed is"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "when he when when this pulled its contact or this I associate it with a"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:20:02", "text": "contact pulled this this dark contact out of his eye I could tell it was a normal eye just much larger."}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "It says here their scara is the same color as their bright uh as their skin. The iris is pale gray in this one"}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:17", "text": "particular. Okay. Uh and the pupil is black and oversized. The lens is rounder than a human and the musculature used to adjust"}, {"start": "02:20:17", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "focus is more developed on Yeah. So, I'll send you this."}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:27", "text": "It's awesome. That's cool. Isn't that wild? Kind of the only other time that I've"}, {"start": "02:20:27", "end": "02:20:34", "text": "heard You mentioned their ear canal. Not ears. I I drew what I saw and you don't see"}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:40", "text": "ears on on these. I see like a lump or some sort of uh ridge,"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "but not a defined ear. They're just more like a canal. I noticed that, too."}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "I'll send you this file and I'd love for you to just maybe go through it and have a read because it is quite extensive,"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "right? And in my opinion, it rings pretty true. My conviction level on that being true"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:03", "text": "is up there around 80%. I'm I'm pretty high conviction, right, on that, but only because there are many"}, {"start": "02:21:03", "end": "02:21:10", "text": "many many um he's a credible microbiologist, molecular biologist. Um, but also like I"}, {"start": "02:21:10", "end": "02:21:17", "text": "mean in the technical terms I've had molecular biologists be like, \"Yeah, he's, you know, definitely a guy that knows his stuff, but also like he"}, {"start": "02:21:17", "end": "02:21:22", "text": "mentions things like the skin and and has it's filled with tons of pores.\" Okay."}, {"start": "02:21:22", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "And that they kind of secrete their excrement through their skin. Okay."}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:34", "text": "Um, that's how their digestive tract works and it gives it like a Do you remember a smell on board at all?"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "Uh, I remember a smell, but it was very similar to the way a hospital smells, like a static. Static and clean sterile."}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "Yeah. Okay. Um, and I remember them wearing some type of metallic."}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "Um, it was mildly metallic, but also had different shimmers and colors associated with what they were wearing or along"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "their body. Form fitting. Form fitting. Yeah. very formed almost like they were like uh put in front of a"}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "screen and it was design the clothing was designed to fit them perfectly kind of thing and move and stretch you know"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:11", "text": "with their bodies. Yeah. No wrinkles or anything. No. Yeah. Very very Yeah. No wrinkles,"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:17", "text": "nothing to snag on something. It seemed like a a suit to be worn uh while you're"}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:22", "text": "repairing electronics. You don't want your clothing to snag on electronics um"}, {"start": "02:22:22", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "and damage the things that you're trying to repair. You know, it's an interesting observation."}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:35", "text": "Um, were they communicating with you at this point? Um, just the one at the end and it"}, {"start": "02:22:35", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "seemed more telepathic just and I just got, you know, I didn't get actual words. I was getting the feeling um the"}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "telepathic feeling and her emotions. Relax, calm down, everything's okay, you're going to be all right. you know,"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "that's the that's what I was receiving from the one at the end, the old the one"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "that looked older to me. Um, any other impressions that they were"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:06", "text": "giving you? Um, in this particular situation, um, no. Okay. No. And I don't remember being I haven't"}, {"start": "02:23:06", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "had any flashbacks or memories of being put back in my truck. Sure. Um, I had a moment where I was being"}, {"start": "02:23:12", "end": "02:23:18", "text": "pulled from the table. Um, and I remember seeing the floor and the floor"}, {"start": "02:23:18", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "was just solid, like solid, um, off-white color. Um, I didn't see any"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "dirt or debris on the floor, but then, you know, and then it vanished, you"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "know, that's all I got was a little bit pulled from where I was being held on this um, almost weightless table."}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "Mhm. To seeing the floor and then um, yeah, nothing since then."}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "Okay. Um, was this wasn't your only runin? No. No, this was not my only runin."}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "And I had uh several very extremely vivid dreams. Mhm. Of um being on their um their vessel um"}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:06", "text": "another time too or several other times actually um where it wasn't just the the"}, {"start": "02:24:06", "end": "02:24:11", "text": "tall grays or murther. There were smaller ones, uh, smaller grays, and"}, {"start": "02:24:11", "end": "02:24:18", "text": "there was, uh, very short, um, female, um, a long hair that didn't look like"}, {"start": "02:24:18", "end": "02:24:26", "text": "the grays at all. They look like a a totally different species. Just, uh, and very, uh, what's the word"}, {"start": "02:24:26", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "I'm looking for? um"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "very normal looking such as if you take a normal um six-foot man and you just"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:43", "text": "shrank them down to 3 ft. Proportionate is the word I'm looking for. Very proportionate"}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "uh to their body weight and size and height like a normal person would look. Just shrunken to about three three and"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:54", "text": "1/2 ft. Wow. Um there were several of them. And"}, {"start": "02:24:54", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "uh this goes to uh another situation that I had mentioned to you last night"}, {"start": "02:25:00", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "as well where my wife and I both had uh an identical dream. The very same night,"}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "we had an identical dream um where"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:19", "text": "we are both in an environment that's being that's under attack or something's attacking this small community or or"}, {"start": "02:25:19", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "town where there's a few high-rise buildings like six, seventh stories and some of these highrises were collapsed"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:32", "text": "where I was at. where she was at was a little bit further away and she was with"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "another female running for cover and trying to get away from this. I was in a"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:44", "text": "what what I remember as being like a uh a uh"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:50", "text": "store hiding behind some shelves while the attack was going on. And when the"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "attack seemed to slow down, um I came out like a lot of other people did and"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "there was this destroyed structure building um where they were pulling"}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "people out that were still alive. They're trying to rescue people and I remember running over to help and I"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:15", "text": "helped one person out and then another female came out but she was completely"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:24", "text": "nude and I was helping her out and she had no sense of embarrassment, no sense"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:29", "text": "of notion that she was nude it was going to affect anything."}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "um not trying to hide herself, just acting completely natural like it's"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "normal for her to be completely nude. And uh I was helping her out and then I"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:49", "text": "remember some chaos happening off to my right and uh some more attacks were coming. So, I was helping her over the"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:55", "text": "last concrete pillar that she was climbing over and uh we ran together and"}, {"start": "02:26:55", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "uh the where I would where I was at before in like this little um the shop was now collapsed. So, I ran past it and"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:09", "text": "further down the road into like a small house. Um and I ran with her there. And"}, {"start": "02:27:09", "end": "02:27:15", "text": "uh what's odd is my wife was dreaming that she was in a in a different"}, {"start": "02:27:15", "end": "02:27:22", "text": "structure and running to another house, but in the distance she can see another house. But what the other house that she"}, {"start": "02:27:22", "end": "02:27:28", "text": "can see in the distance of her dream was the house that I was running into. And she clearly remember seeing two people"}, {"start": "02:27:28", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "running into it. And so what was odd is we both had the same dream of the same thing happening"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:38", "text": "but in different places, but we were in different places of why it why all it's happening. And so that"}, {"start": "02:27:38", "end": "02:27:45", "text": "that was that was pretty pretty wild that we woke up and we're talking about it together like oh my god that's"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:51", "text": "exactly what I dreamed but I was in a different location and we were sharing"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:57", "text": "the information. It was pretty wild. It's pretty Yeah, I would I would consider that"}, {"start": "02:27:57", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "wild. Um but you the thing is you refer to these as dreams."}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:09", "text": "I refer to them as dreams because they're hap they happen when I'm sleeping. Sure. Uh, so I don't want to misguide"}, {"start": "02:28:09", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "anyone. I want to be 100% transparent and honest. And when when they happen to me while I'm sleeping and I wake up and I"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:21", "text": "can I remember them as as if they actually happened the day before, like they"}, {"start": "02:28:21", "end": "02:28:29", "text": "happened vividly. Mhm. And trans I can remember um grabbing rock and touching the floor."}, {"start": "02:28:29", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "I can remember smells. I can remember how things feel on my skin. Um, I can I"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "can remember um wind or breeze on my face. So, I mean, these aren't just dreams"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "where all of the other senses are are are void. These are dreams where I'm feeling and smelling and hearing and"}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:54", "text": "experiencing with all my senses. That's what's happening. And so, that's that's"}, {"start": "02:28:54", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "what makes it more visceral and Right. Well, some of these dreams you've come"}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "back with injuries. Yes. And so that's where I, you know, we say dreams, but my dreams don't leave"}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "strange, symmetrical marks on my body. Correct. Correct. Um, now these other dreams where you had"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "these markings. Um, and if you'd like, we can pull them up. Yeah, we can pull up the Here's some"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:28", "text": "images here. The first one here, this is on your thigh. These are three, this is an"}, {"start": "02:29:28", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "equilateral triangle. What looks to be with three mark bruises. Yeah. perfectly um identical identical"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "distance between each one. You measured them. Yes. And I mean just with a basic You can you can also see it."}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:48", "text": "It's like what? Yeah. It where did this come from? It looks crazy. It's wild. It's so wild. Um"}, {"start": "02:29:48", "end": "02:29:55", "text": "I mean and that just like makes these these dream states so much more realistic for me. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "02:29:55", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "What was that particular dream? Do you remember that one? I I really don't. Okay. I I really don't remember which one that"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:06", "text": "happened with to be honest. I just wanted to take I wanted to document. You know, there was another one"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "with my eye that's happened several times actually. That one is you can clearly see like a"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:19", "text": "some type of symmetry, some type of like angular geometric shape in your eye."}, {"start": "02:30:19", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "Absolutely. And it looks like a puncture and then puncture, right? And I'm not blind,"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:33", "text": "dude. And I got 2020 vision. So that is clearly a puncture. Yes. Yes. What do you make of that?"}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "Do you think that was done? I don't know why that happened to me. I don't know why I needed something jabbed"}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:46", "text": "in my eye, you know, to be honest with you. And so that part frightens me a little bit. Like something can can hurt"}, {"start": "02:30:46", "end": "02:30:54", "text": "me and harm me, but you know, I'm I'm thankful that I I I can still use both my eyes and I have 2020 vision. So, um"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:31:01", "text": "I'm it's scary that it could happen, but it's it's comforting to know that I'm"}, {"start": "02:31:01", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "not blind in one eye. You know what I mean? Because with any injury, you know, we don't know"}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "how our bodies will handle those injuries. Sure. And we don't know, you know, if this is a real injury or an upgrade or whatnot, right? And when we're going and"}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "as we're as we progress later in our conversation, we can talk about uh uh a"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "trip to the hospital with a uh Yes. with a issue later down the road. Yes."}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "And we'll get to that as well. Absolutely. Um so let's go back to these uh quote unquote dreams."}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:38", "text": "Um you've had several where there are like you said other species,"}, {"start": "02:31:38", "end": "02:31:46", "text": "right? Um let's talk about some of these interactions because I'm uh if anything I'm just more fascinated by this facet"}, {"start": "02:31:46", "end": "02:31:53", "text": "of the phenomenon is the species is the different species that we might be interacting with the ones that seemingly"}, {"start": "02:31:53", "end": "02:32:01", "text": "are cooperating in some sense there's some type of community of these beings working together it seems like um at any"}, {"start": "02:32:01", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "one point were there more than two different types of species in the same room? Yes. Yeah. Really? Right. Yeah. Uh, were there ever any"}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:13", "text": "that looked like us? Yes. Okay. Other than the little ones, two. Really?"}, {"start": "02:32:13", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "Yeah. What did they look like? So, in in one of my dreams, there was a uh or I keep saying dreams. This is how"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "I associate it. So, I will continue to say dreams cuz this is just association."}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "So, in one of them there were the tall grays, which I'm assuming will be the"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:37", "text": "small grays who I didn't have a whole lot of um communication with. It was uh"}, {"start": "02:32:37", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "very mild telepathic and more along the lines of help guiding me around the ship"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:50", "text": "walking around. They were helping me walk around the ship kind of thing. Um there were the the small female."}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:57", "text": "Um they weren't all female. There were some males that were much shorter than them. I would say like uh six 6 in"}, {"start": "02:32:57", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "shorter. And they seem to have like um very"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "um like a lack of intelligence like like they were uh they were"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "meaningless to them. Um like their males were were just used to to do the heavy"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "lifting. They were nerfed. Yeah. There was something it was it was odd. It was it was like a a a dynamic that was completely"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "different. The women were in charge. Women were in charge. But I also I also found out later from a previous dream"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "that is something that happened on their planet that affected male DNA that their"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "offspring um the males either didn't survive child birth or birthing or um"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:49", "text": "and they and that the ones that did just lacked the ability for creativity and"}, {"start": "02:33:49", "end": "02:33:56", "text": "knowledge and grasping that knowledge. They're hard to train, hard to hard to educate. like some sort of thing"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:04", "text": "happened. I don't know if it was a a natural cosmic thing or if it was a war or something that took place that that"}, {"start": "02:34:04", "end": "02:34:12", "text": "damaged their DNA in some way where the the males just either didn't survive."}, {"start": "02:34:12", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "They were low in numbers. They they uh lacked a lot of the ability to um"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "reproduce. Yeah. Mhm. and uh that there wasn't there"}, {"start": "02:34:24", "end": "02:34:32", "text": "wasn't enough um educated males uh left to to really help, you know, their their"}, {"start": "02:34:32", "end": "02:34:38", "text": "own people, you know, and so the ones that were that were uh safeguarded from this, it seemed like to"}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:44", "text": "be the the the female side of the DNA was not affected. Mhm."}, {"start": "02:34:44", "end": "02:34:51", "text": "And so I I was under the impression that they're here to try to um"}, {"start": "02:34:51", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "collect some DNA to help their their their community and because they don't"}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "want to die out, you know, just like any any living thing wants to continue to"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:08", "text": "survive. So I think it's more or less a survival instinct for them. That's wild. Then"}, {"start": "02:35:08", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "there were talls. There were there were talls um tall blondes that I I didn't"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "associate or didn't speak with. Um and they What were they wearing? I"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "light colors but like I didn't I wasn't having conversations with them. They"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:30", "text": "seem to be having conversations with the immers. Um but I recognized they're both male"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "and female and there were several of them. There's like six or seven of them just kind of doing their stuff in the"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "distance. They were about our height if not taller. um that resembled, you know, human beings"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "as well as the small ones. There was um another one that was walking out as I"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:54", "text": "was being I was walking in and I I only catch a glimpse of this one, but every"}, {"start": "02:35:54", "end": "02:36:01", "text": "time that I've had this vivid dream where I mean associating with with all of them, there's always one that's"}, {"start": "02:36:01", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "leaving the room that's uh a little bit more shy uh shy from us. um that's"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:14", "text": "always leaving and it and it you know I'm only catching a glimpse of it. It just kind of looks kind of like a I"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "don't know ogreish almost similar to you ever watched the Lord of the Rings. Mhm."}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:26", "text": "And um the uh who they're fighting all the time. Oh, the orcs. The orcs kind of thing. Very like"}, {"start": "02:36:26", "end": "02:36:32", "text": "somewhat similar. Uh a little bit more advanced and and attire and things. Uh"}, {"start": "02:36:32", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "kind of resembling some some similarities within that. But it's like I said, it's only a glimpse that I'm"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "seeing every time of the leaving the room. And I was under the impression that uh um their appearance can be a"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "little scary based on how they look, but it's you know them. And it was these type of dreams that you"}, {"start": "02:36:51", "end": "02:36:56", "text": "would wake up and have markings on your body. Correct. Yeah. Wow. That is and and again, you're"}, {"start": "02:36:56", "end": "02:37:02", "text": "laying down in these dreams. No, no, you're standing up. The the the first encounter was when I"}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:08", "text": "was on on the table, but then you're just kind of several after I've been allowed to walk around"}, {"start": "02:37:08", "end": "02:37:13", "text": "and and uh and uh just kind of scope things out and check things out and I'm"}, {"start": "02:37:13", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "being guided by uh these small females and the small grays who don't communicate very much. They're just"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:26", "text": "there to kind of exist and they have a they have a purpose and they're very intelligent. Um but they, you know, it was like they"}, {"start": "02:37:26", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "they deal with this stuff all the time. So it's nothing very routine with them. Whereas the"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:38", "text": "small uh females um it didn't seem so very routine for them. Um so they were a"}, {"start": "02:37:38", "end": "02:37:45", "text": "little bit more communicative than than than the others. The mirthers when they would communicate anything they would"}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "say to you would be um of vital importance or of great importance. Like"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "they wouldn't speak unless it was important to say, right? No small talk. They they didn't waste time with things. It was just important. Well, one thing"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:06", "text": "that you did mention in um the interview with Linda Molton How was you had the"}, {"start": "02:38:06", "end": "02:38:12", "text": "impression that there was some type of council, right? Um can you talk about that a little bit"}, {"start": "02:38:12", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "more? um or the council five. It was a it was a feeling and um almost"}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "like a like a telepathic like um"}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "communication that there was five that were part of this little group that I"}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:36", "text": "was associated with and being where I was at with them that there's"}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "the the five of them were like their counsel, right? Five of them as in five races."}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:50", "text": "Five species. Five species. Okay. Okay. Whoa. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:38:50", "end": "02:38:56", "text": "I mean that's uh and and those you had a sense were benevolent. Those were good. They were good. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:38:56", "end": "02:39:01", "text": "Okay. That's good. Protecting us. So yeah, having some"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "protection from others is is a bit comforting. Maybe it was just said to me to be"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:13", "text": "comfortable, but I I didn't I didn't pick up any hostilities. Yeah. Per se"}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:20", "text": "or deception from them. Um I did have an encounter with a human that was there as well and"}, {"start": "02:39:20", "end": "02:39:26", "text": "was a little agitated that I was present. A human human. Human human. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "What was his role or I'm unsure. Um, I was guided into the"}, {"start": "02:39:32", "end": "02:39:38", "text": "room and uh when this person saw me, this male saw"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:43", "text": "me was immediately like, why is he here? What's his purpose? He's not he's not"}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "he's not with our group. we're not we and was upset like pointing at me and"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "I'm like um I took it offensive and was like"}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "obviously you can't do something that I can and was just more or less like you're taunting me I'm going to taunt"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:06", "text": "you back and then he turned and and and walked off. Who was he talking to?"}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:11", "text": "He was talking to the mirther. And what was he wearing anything? He was"}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:17", "text": "wearing like a It was a jumpsuit, like a human jumpsuit,"}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "not like military. It was blue, like dark navy. Did he feel like he was military or"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "I got the impression it was um military um military hairstyle, you know,"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "military appearance. Yep. Like some higher up somewhere. Maybe secret space program or something."}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:41", "text": "Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Whoa. Okay. I don't recognize I"}, {"start": "02:40:41", "end": "02:40:46", "text": "don't I didn't recognize the person. Yeah. But I recognize his features as as human."}, {"start": "02:40:46", "end": "02:40:52", "text": "Yeah. And his attitude and the way he spoke as human. So I don't want to I don't want to call"}, {"start": "02:40:52", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "anybody out. So I won't describe in detail what the appearance was. Okay."}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:03", "text": "I don't want to divulge or or or threaten any any other um"}, {"start": "02:41:03", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "organization. I don't I'm not I'm an American. Right. Okay. all over my country."}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "What are you saying? Was there Was there some feature on there that would have given away what department this guy would have worked for?"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:22", "text": "I'm just just observing. I could You could tell. I could tell. Okay. This was an American um"}, {"start": "02:41:22", "end": "02:41:28", "text": "an American department. One of the one of the American departments in some capacity."}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:33", "text": "Some capacity. Huh. Whoa. Okay. But yeah, I I don't want to describe"}, {"start": "02:41:33", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "this person in in any kind of detail. Just it was another male. Okay."}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "Interesting. Well, that's interesting. You're g me puzzle pieces here, so I'm I'm Pardon me"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:52", "text": "if I'm trying to figure it out. I understand. Um, I'm sure you do the same. Um,"}, {"start": "02:41:52", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "okay. So, I mean, this is all very fascinating to me. And, you know,"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:04", "text": "obviously for the listener, we're taking them through a whole journey here and we're going, you know, far beyond"}, {"start": "02:42:04", "end": "02:42:10", "text": "possibly what they're comfortable with. And like we're talking about these things that are like dreams. You're waking up. You're having markings on"}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:16", "text": "your body, clear markings on your body. Um, but now I want to get back to something a little more tangible again,"}, {"start": "02:42:16", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "a little more physical is is you keep having messages,"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "right? And you you receive in 2016, you start"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "receiving messages. Now, I wondered, you know, when I was reading about your case and when I when I was uh hearing about"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "your case through Dr. Drew and and and watching your interview with Linda Mol,"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:45", "text": "I was wondering why are these messages all in English? That was always same question I had for Jim Penniston. Like,"}, {"start": "02:42:45", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "why English? Why, you know, how what about another language or what about a"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:56", "text": "language that we're not familiar with? That doesn't make unless it was absolutely intended for you,"}, {"start": "02:42:56", "end": "02:43:02", "text": "which I believe it was, which I believe it was, but otherwise it wouldn't make sense. Right. Right. I mean, if somebody's speaking to you in"}, {"start": "02:43:02", "end": "02:43:10", "text": "another language and you don't understand what they're saying, like what are you going to what are you going to walk away with? Yeah. But maybe I'm I'm saying maybe you"}, {"start": "02:43:10", "end": "02:43:16", "text": "intercepted some transmission that wasn't meant for you. Was like my initial thought. Like maybe something like that could have happened."}, {"start": "02:43:16", "end": "02:43:22", "text": "Possibly. Yes. Um but then also later on you were given pieces of information that you told me were very personal to"}, {"start": "02:43:22", "end": "02:43:30", "text": "you. There were some translations that uh yeah it kind of affected me because I felt uh I felt it was very per you know"}, {"start": "02:43:30", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "personal per se to me. Mhm. And uh that was specific to you. it it seemed very specific to me um"}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:43", "text": "with you know conversations with Alinda and I she'll tell you I I it choked me up a little bit but it also"}, {"start": "02:43:43", "end": "02:43:49", "text": "like put me on a little bit of a defense where um it I I don't want to take away"}, {"start": "02:43:49", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "from uh I don't want to take away from the the experience but at the same time"}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:44:02", "text": "it it just it was a little bit profound and uh you know maybe later down the road uh some of that more can can come"}, {"start": "02:44:02", "end": "02:44:09", "text": "out but I don't know. Uh she'll tell you I was a bit frightened by some of it and"}, {"start": "02:44:09", "end": "02:44:15", "text": "um I mean I didn't feel threatened or anything per se. It was just you more of"}, {"start": "02:44:15", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "emotional emotional response, you know. Can you tell me what it had to do with?"}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:28", "text": "Um it had to do with um some translations"}, {"start": "02:44:28", "end": "02:44:33", "text": "um referring to me as being uh kind of a messenger or something. Okay."}, {"start": "02:44:33", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "But I I don't want to associate myself with being um a messenger or some sort of"}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:47", "text": "prophet or anything prophet or figure because that's completely against who I am as a person you know and we are all individuals. We"}, {"start": "02:44:47", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "are all fascinating individuals. every one of us, all of your listeners, everyone out"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "there is is a fascinating a fascinating person, you know, and and I don't want"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:05", "text": "to take away um or or project myself as being some something that I don't feel that I am,"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:12", "text": "you know what I mean? Sure. And so, yeah, it was described to me is like I have an ability to perceive"}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:21", "text": "things that um several others uh can't seem to do or or can't evolve in a way"}, {"start": "02:45:21", "end": "02:45:29", "text": "where the messages can be um received well. Yeah. And I I I believe that it was"}, {"start": "02:45:29", "end": "02:45:37", "text": "referring to then this is after some great time thinking about it that maybe it was just it was just a metaphor or or"}, {"start": "02:45:37", "end": "02:45:45", "text": "or speaking to me in a in a fashion that I'm able to do something that many others can't and and and that I believe"}, {"start": "02:45:45", "end": "02:45:51", "text": "that I'm able to receive the information and coherently speak about it afterwards. Yeah. You're a decoder."}, {"start": "02:45:51", "end": "02:45:57", "text": "Yeah. Like a decoder. But you know I Yeah. And so it it bothers me a little"}, {"start": "02:45:57", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "bit because I don't want to be it's a lot of responsibility. Yeah. I don't want to be put up as some sort of"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:08", "text": "Sure. You know, but on the other hand of that, yeah, you know, there is I think some"}, {"start": "02:46:08", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "importance to at least dulge some of that information. What you're doing here today, I think is really brave,"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:18", "text": "right? Abs. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think I think we're all messengers in some way. Yeah. But I I I do think it's important"}, {"start": "02:46:18", "end": "02:46:24", "text": "that you uh share a lot of this stuff because clearly,"}, {"start": "02:46:24", "end": "02:46:31", "text": "you know, if they're concerned, Yeah. I believe we should be concerned. I agree. Um if they're concerned, then we should be"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "concerned as well. Okay. So, you continue having more of these messages happen."}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "Yeah. Over over time. And I'd like to ask, is this something"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:49", "text": "you're willing to talk about? Uh we can discuss Um let's get into let's get into some of"}, {"start": "02:46:49", "end": "02:46:55", "text": "this because and again if you're not comfortable you just let me know and we'll okay work around it."}, {"start": "02:46:55", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "Um the next progression here is June to October 2016."}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:08", "text": "Okay. You have messages in four symbols uh from the imm"}, {"start": "02:47:08", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "to yourself and the message is as follows. Your"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:20", "text": "creator is displeased. Arrogant belief must allow all. Now you're given a"}, {"start": "02:47:20", "end": "02:47:26", "text": "latitude and longitude. Burggalio accept"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:32", "text": "open and free keys and then decoders monitored. Use"}, {"start": "02:47:32", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "caution. So right there um just for this first part we have something really"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:44", "text": "interesting but those I don't remember what the uh the uh"}, {"start": "02:47:44", "end": "02:47:52", "text": "latitude longitude where it goes to where it goes to yeah I don't remember um so the latitude of Solomon's temple"}, {"start": "02:47:52", "end": "02:47:58", "text": "oh 31.77 and then the longitude of temple mount"}, {"start": "02:47:58", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "that's crazy and you know it's so crazy because I as a defense contractor I recently was in Israel and in Jerusalem."}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "Yeah. I've got pictures, you know, near that location. Whoa. Yeah. It's like it was predicting my"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:19", "text": "future outcome of where I would be. Whoa. That's wild, isn't it? That Yeah. Obviously,"}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:26", "text": "this happens all the time. These synchronicities. Yeah. I do not choose work for where the"}, {"start": "02:48:26", "end": "02:48:31", "text": "location is. I choose work for the job. and I don't have no idea where I'm going"}, {"start": "02:48:31", "end": "02:48:39", "text": "to end up, you know, doing doing this type of work. So, it it's it's kind of wild that, you know,"}, {"start": "02:48:39", "end": "02:48:44", "text": "yeah, I mean, there are a lot of kind of wild things going on here. Um,"}, {"start": "02:48:44", "end": "02:48:49", "text": "so yeah, you take that as almost some type of synchronicity like they're showing you like, hey, and and here uh"}, {"start": "02:48:49", "end": "02:48:55", "text": "the word solo um at the longitude of Solomon's temple"}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "here. Solo, solo as in Solomon's temple. Another interesting connection that was"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:06", "text": "found by Dr. Drew here. Credit to him. And Solomon, I believe, didn't he have"}, {"start": "02:49:06", "end": "02:49:13", "text": "some sort of guidance um from God himself to uh create the temple?"}, {"start": "02:49:13", "end": "02:49:19", "text": "I'm not familiar with I'm not familiar with I'm not super super familiar with religion. Um I I am"}, {"start": "02:49:19", "end": "02:49:25", "text": "I would align myself Christian to the to the best part. I'm I'm not I'm"}, {"start": "02:49:25", "end": "02:49:33", "text": "not a everyday go to church type of person. Yeah, I'm pretty open-minded, but I I do live my life uh peaceful and calm and"}, {"start": "02:49:33", "end": "02:49:40", "text": "courteous to others and polite to others and um I care about life and things, but um yeah, solo. Um"}, {"start": "02:49:40", "end": "02:49:47", "text": "well, I'll have to look into that a little bit. Seems like individual, you know, and that points at Solomon's Temple, you"}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "know, quite a bit. Where were you when you received this message? Do you remember in March"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "2016? June, sorry, June to October 2016. I believe I was in uh Colorado."}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:05", "text": "Okay. And this is probably at night again. It always happens at night. Yeah. When I'm sleeping."}, {"start": "02:50:05", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "Burggolio. I don't know. Burggolio. I'll look that up real quick if you don't mind. No, absolutely."}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:16", "text": "I have no idea. It's Italian. Let me see."}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:23", "text": "It's Italian. And looking at the letters that uh was translated by from from Dr."}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:29", "text": "Horse Drew is in red shows up as Yeah."}, {"start": "02:50:29", "end": "02:50:35", "text": "Okay, this is really interesting. Burggolio and then it says accept open and free"}, {"start": "02:50:35", "end": "02:50:41", "text": "keys, right? And then in red we have Pope Fr in"}, {"start": "02:50:41", "end": "02:50:49", "text": "perhaps Pope Francis, right? One could make that assumption. Correct. Well, Burggalio is Jorge Mario Burggalio"}, {"start": "02:50:49", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "is the birth name of Pope Francis. Okay. Wow. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:51:02", "text": "Now, now back in 2016 when this is explained to me, like I said, I was getting lots of messages and lots of"}, {"start": "02:51:02", "end": "02:51:10", "text": "translations. So, it's I'm remembering a lot more as we're talking about them, but uh they're not"}, {"start": "02:51:10", "end": "02:51:15", "text": "brought up in my head all the time kind of thing. Yeah. Because I'm constantly"}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "more and more type of messages. So yes, Burggolio does ring some bells with uh"}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "Pope Francis. Well, I mean, this is so wild. And is he still the Pope? Because I think the Pope He passed."}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:34", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Pope Francis passes now. The uh the Pope from Chicago. Did he pass or did he just hand"}, {"start": "02:51:34", "end": "02:51:41", "text": "No, he passed. He did pass away. Yeah, he passed away. Okay. Uh last year I was actually"}, {"start": "02:51:41", "end": "02:51:49", "text": "um in Italy in Rome. Oh, wow. uh the the day after he passed."}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:54", "text": "Oh, wow. Yeah, that's crazy. I I booked my trip to Rome. I was going to Rome. I was going to go visit the"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:52:00", "text": "Vatican, right? And I was like, nice. All right. And literally a day before I see, oh no, the"}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:07", "text": "Pope is dead. Now I'm like, uhoh, that kind of foils my plan to go to the Vatican. Sure enough, it was"}, {"start": "02:52:07", "end": "02:52:12", "text": "pandemonium, as you can expect. Massive crowds, hundreds and thousands of people. the"}, {"start": "02:52:12", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "city got shut down, you know, and I was in the midst of all this. That's crazy. Yeah. Really insane. Um"}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "that day you're there. Yeah. I was there for the funeral. Like they they, you know, paraded around his body around the uh around the city. And"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:30", "text": "so I'm wondering if this is a metaphor, you know, it says to free keys."}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "Yeah. So I wonder if it's it means like you're no longer you're no longer"}, {"start": "02:52:36", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "Pope hand over the keys to the next. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's so many different"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "similarities that you know I this came out in 2016 obviously way before"}, {"start": "02:52:48", "end": "02:52:55", "text": "Yeah. you know he was even Yeah. You know before he passed this this"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:53:01", "text": "essentially in 2016 pointed out that he was going to pass"}, {"start": "02:53:01", "end": "02:53:07", "text": "the keys off to someone else. Sure. Yeah. You know what I mean? The keys. Yeah. And then so freaking wild. There's so many"}, {"start": "02:53:07", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "there's so many things that you just can't ignore. This this is the Da Vinci code. Um, decoders monitored. Use"}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:21", "text": "caution. That one terrifies me. That one uh bothers me as well. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:27", "text": "Because uh the moment that I heard that I got concerned with um"}, {"start": "02:53:27", "end": "02:53:36", "text": "I got concerned for the safety of Linda and uh Dr. Horstrew at that point in time. Um"}, {"start": "02:53:36", "end": "02:53:41", "text": "I I was almost at a point where like, okay, we need to put this on hold. I'm going to stop talking to people for a"}, {"start": "02:53:41", "end": "02:53:48", "text": "while because they're helping me, but I don't want to put them in jeopardy. You know, uh they're important to me. Um"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "they're good people. Both Linda and Dr. Horstru, they're good people. They have they have good hearts. And the last"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:54:00", "text": "thing I want to do is bring bring something negative to towards them. And"}, {"start": "02:54:00", "end": "02:54:07", "text": "so at this point in time, I was I was t I was kind of backing off from sharing."}, {"start": "02:54:07", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "I was worried for them. And so, um, when this translation came out, I was I was I"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:19", "text": "was being cautious. Yeah. You know, it it's not just about me anymore. It's about others. And I don't"}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:25", "text": "want I don't want to bring anything upon others. So, yeah, I remember that."}, {"start": "02:54:25", "end": "02:54:30", "text": "But it does say decoders monitor, use caution. Doesn't say stop. It doesn't say stop. You're correct. It doesn't It doesn't say"}, {"start": "02:54:30", "end": "02:54:36", "text": "So, just let's say stop. It says use caution. So, you know,"}, {"start": "02:54:36", "end": "02:54:42", "text": "caution should be taken with everything that we do in life, shouldn't it? Mhm."}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "Yeah. I take that as a direct message for sure. Um, it then"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:54", "text": "goes on to rebuild temple for all."}, {"start": "02:54:54", "end": "02:54:59", "text": "Return our gifts. That's another scary one."}, {"start": "02:54:59", "end": "02:55:06", "text": "What gifts? And so, I don't know about that one at I mean, I I couldn't think of anything. Return our gifts."}, {"start": "02:55:06", "end": "02:55:11", "text": "So, so um would this be like reprisal recoveries? Definitely."}, {"start": "02:55:11", "end": "02:55:16", "text": "But if they were if they were crashed, well, not always. Are they gifts?"}, {"start": "02:55:16", "end": "02:55:23", "text": "I don't think they all crashed. No. And do you think they were just here here here's something that works. Um"}, {"start": "02:55:23", "end": "02:55:29", "text": "play with it. According to other whistleblowers, um I think David Gresian mentioned this too that there are some"}, {"start": "02:55:29", "end": "02:55:35", "text": "that are considered to be or at least looked at as donations donations for experiments"}, {"start": "02:55:35", "end": "02:55:40", "text": "for whatever. They were left there intact with nothing on board type and here you go."}, {"start": "02:55:40", "end": "02:55:46", "text": "Oh wow. In these sort of giving fields. Okay. And they were just kind of on these"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:51", "text": "ranges or whatever it is. They were kind of just dropped there and like here you go. But that would just be like a gift"}, {"start": "02:55:51", "end": "02:55:58", "text": "of a vehicle in my perspective of things. You know, here here here's an here's an object."}, {"start": "02:55:58", "end": "02:56:05", "text": "Is this object a gift or what do we consider gifts? Gifts are"}, {"start": "02:56:05", "end": "02:56:12", "text": "gifts are given with emotion. Gifts are given with intent. And gifts are given with um meaning"}, {"start": "02:56:12", "end": "02:56:19", "text": "behind them. So, I'm I'm one that, like I said, thinks outside of the box a lot"}, {"start": "02:56:19", "end": "02:56:25", "text": "on a lot of different things. So, I interpret a gift as"}, {"start": "02:56:25", "end": "02:56:32", "text": "something that could be used for knowledge, something that could be used to answer questions, something that could be used more or less, per se, with"}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:38", "text": "emotions and and and helping in some fashion. So, what was this gift"}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:45", "text": "looking? I'm not thinking it was it was a uh um UAP that was left behind as a"}, {"start": "02:56:45", "end": "02:56:53", "text": "gift. I'm thinking it was something more some type of instrument. I get feeling and emotion and and I get"}, {"start": "02:56:53", "end": "02:57:00", "text": "more out of it than that. You know what I mean? So there is talk that Eisenhower"}, {"start": "02:57:00", "end": "02:57:06", "text": "and the Majestic were given a tool which"}, {"start": "02:57:06", "end": "02:57:12", "text": "is this looking glass this crystal that"}, {"start": "02:57:12", "end": "02:57:19", "text": "um or uh was known as like the yellow book or there's all types of different names for it. A book book of knowledge."}, {"start": "02:57:19", "end": "02:57:26", "text": "Yes. But essentially it was like a hologram that could you could peer into different timelines. All right. like a like a magic eightball"}, {"start": "02:57:26", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "shaken. Exactly. Like a magic eightball, but that had like all these far more detail. Yes. And that that was the way that I"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:40", "text": "understood it. Again, this is all just lore. I don't know if any of this is accurate, but the way that I understood it is it was given to them with the"}, {"start": "02:57:40", "end": "02:57:46", "text": "intent to disseminate that to the world. Okay? Use this as a tool to evolve,"}, {"start": "02:57:46", "end": "02:57:51", "text": "right? And they chose to keep it for themselves and to use it for their own personal gain and militarization."}, {"start": "02:57:51", "end": "02:57:57", "text": "Okay. I can see how and controlling the narrative through the military-industrial complex. And that ticked them off. And they were"}, {"start": "02:57:57", "end": "02:58:03", "text": "like, \"That's not why we gave it to you. You promised us that you would do it this way.\" And you didn't. You're not using it for its intended"}, {"start": "02:58:03", "end": "02:58:09", "text": "purposes. So I see return our gifts as being like, \"Hey, hey, either play nice or give it back."}, {"start": "02:58:09", "end": "02:58:16", "text": "Play nice or give it back.\" Yeah. Give back our toy. Exactly. Topside destruction of early libraries,"}, {"start": "02:58:16", "end": "02:58:22", "text": "artifacts, and structure. What do you make of that? So when I think of top side, I think of surface."}, {"start": "02:58:22", "end": "02:58:29", "text": "Mhm. Because, you know, I'm not Navy, but if I was operating underwater, then surface"}, {"start": "02:58:29", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "would be the uh water level, you know, the surface of the water, surface of the earth."}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:42", "text": "So this would be um how I interpret it is libraries. It says libraries. What"}, {"start": "02:58:42", "end": "02:58:49", "text": "else did it say? Libraries, artifacts, and structures. Libraries, artifacts, and structures. So artifacts are um things of our past,"}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:55", "text": "right? So I interpret this as as uh our history, you know, like maybe uh ancient"}, {"start": "02:58:55", "end": "02:59:01", "text": "civilizations that we're uncovering in like in Egypt and things, you know, and over time they become buried in sand. So"}, {"start": "02:59:01", "end": "02:59:08", "text": "maybe these are structures or or uh maybe they have information. Maybe"}, {"start": "02:59:08", "end": "02:59:14", "text": "there's um historical reference or guides such as hieroglyphics, you know, and and some"}, {"start": "02:59:14", "end": "02:59:21", "text": "of these ancient structures that were unbearing in the desert that uh are are,"}, {"start": "02:59:21", "end": "02:59:27", "text": "you know, echoes of our past of how how we lived back in the day. And maybe they're being destroyed in some fashion"}, {"start": "02:59:27", "end": "02:59:33", "text": "somehow. Yeah. And that's the top side destruction. top side. So there might there might be a whole underground component here that were"}, {"start": "02:59:33", "end": "02:59:42", "text": "right. So I mean I I remember being in Iraq um when we were operating out there"}, {"start": "02:59:42", "end": "02:59:49", "text": "there was there there's a lot of historical um sites out there and I"}, {"start": "02:59:49", "end": "02:59:56", "text": "remember some some of the uh um there were some peoples that were they're"}, {"start": "02:59:56", "end": "03:00:02", "text": "destroying a defacing um ancient I remember that ancient um statues"}, {"start": "03:00:02", "end": "03:00:08", "text": "statues and things because temples, you know, who knows? Maybe they're not well educated on the histories of"}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:13", "text": "things, but maybe they're just trying to wipe away some of the history and and then I don't think that's beneficial to"}, {"start": "03:00:13", "end": "03:00:18", "text": "humanity at all. You know, when when you have an oppo when you have a view and"}, {"start": "03:00:18", "end": "03:00:24", "text": "you want everybody to view things the way that you view things and you want to discredit anybody who has an outside"}, {"start": "03:00:24", "end": "03:00:32", "text": "view of things, then you're imposing um violence and destruction to force people"}, {"start": "03:00:32", "end": "03:00:38", "text": "to see your view your way and your way only. And so I don't think this is a uh I"}, {"start": "03:00:38", "end": "03:00:45", "text": "don't think this is a uh a good way to think and good way to operate. So, I I I"}, {"start": "03:00:45", "end": "03:00:52", "text": "interpret that as as a as a as an arrogant way to um force"}, {"start": "03:00:52", "end": "03:00:57", "text": "their beliefs upon everyone kind of thing. Maybe that's what they're warning us about. Like, hey, stop doing that. So, so"}, {"start": "03:00:57", "end": "03:01:04", "text": "give us our gifts back. Stop destroying stuff. Right. Right. You know. Yeah. Um and then the capital letters spell"}, {"start": "03:01:04", "end": "03:01:10", "text": "out m which is French for world. Okay. Okay. And the word defend,"}, {"start": "03:01:10", "end": "03:01:21", "text": "which again pretty deep there. and defend our world, right? Um, follow followed by must chastise"}, {"start": "03:01:21", "end": "03:01:28", "text": "or avoid study of dark energy until photon energy is mastered."}, {"start": "03:01:28", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "And then in brackets, enlarge, squeeze, shrink, insert, charge,"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:42", "text": "and then the capitalized letters, spell it lunar. This one baffled me."}, {"start": "03:01:42", "end": "03:01:47", "text": "I mean, as far as the enlarge, shrink, insert,"}, {"start": "03:01:47", "end": "03:01:53", "text": "charge, all I I have no sounds technical. It sounds"}, {"start": "03:01:53", "end": "03:01:59", "text": "It sounds um like it's uh kind of out of my realm of Yeah. of my knowledge."}, {"start": "03:01:59", "end": "03:02:05", "text": "Physics or something, you know, and and I pick up physics pretty quickly, and I've never taken a physics class. is just something I've I"}, {"start": "03:02:05", "end": "03:02:11", "text": "always picked up quite easily, quite well cuz I can envision things in my mind."}, {"start": "03:02:11", "end": "03:02:20", "text": "Um, such as playing billiards and pool. I I didn't take classes on the physics of it. I I paid attention and practiced"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:27", "text": "the way the balls manipulate from each other and how they strike and where they hit on the on the side rails"}, {"start": "03:02:27", "end": "03:02:34", "text": "to to make my shots. And I'm I'm quite good at billiards pool. We should play uh all over. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:02:34", "end": "03:02:39", "text": "in the military, you know, usually we should play tonight. You want to play? I'm pretty good. But I did not bring my pool queue."}, {"start": "03:02:39", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "That's all right. We can borrow we'll play on an even playing field. We'll both use shitty shitty pool cues."}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:51", "text": "Yeah, we could use some house sticks. Yeah, I'll play. What's wrong with a few dings and dents and broken tips, you know, make"}, {"start": "03:02:51", "end": "03:02:58", "text": "something happen? Yeah. Okay. And then lunar obviously something there. Photon energy. We"}, {"start": "03:02:58", "end": "03:03:03", "text": "talked about this before. And then avoid study. avoid study of dark energy. So"}, {"start": "03:03:03", "end": "03:03:09", "text": "like we're looking into dark matter obviously. I don't know what dark dark energy is. I don't think we know what dark matter"}, {"start": "03:03:09", "end": "03:03:17", "text": "is but we're trying to through CERN I think uh either figure it out create it."}, {"start": "03:03:17", "end": "03:03:25", "text": "Um even you know if you listen to Bob Lazar he says that the creation of element 115 once element 115 the fuel is"}, {"start": "03:03:25", "end": "03:03:32", "text": "put into the uh sort of generator engine or whatever um it it basically"}, {"start": "03:03:32", "end": "03:03:39", "text": "dissipates into or creates 116 uh from 115"}, {"start": "03:03:39", "end": "03:03:46", "text": "and then it d it sort of uh disintegrates and that or or whatever it does and then that creates dark matter."}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:51", "text": "matter, antimatter or whatever. And that's how the reactor, I'm probably butchering it, but"}, {"start": "03:03:51", "end": "03:03:56", "text": "last night when we were eating dinner, um we were we were talking about this as"}, {"start": "03:03:56", "end": "03:04:02", "text": "uh I I was talking to um uh Dr. Hors and"}, {"start": "03:04:02", "end": "03:04:09", "text": "you know, I was sharing some information with him um what I was seeing and and my vivid dream state and I was drawing"}, {"start": "03:04:09", "end": "03:04:14", "text": "pictures for him for what I was seeing. And what I saw was on a monitor that was"}, {"start": "03:04:14", "end": "03:04:21", "text": "embedded into the wall when one of these small grays had gone to it and it lit up"}, {"start": "03:04:21", "end": "03:04:30", "text": "like a like a monitor like a television monitor like this this here and it was showing um some sort of metallic liquid"}, {"start": "03:04:30", "end": "03:04:36", "text": "metallic and I I'm quick to say or a lot of people are quick to say that's liquid mercury. Well, that's what we have here."}, {"start": "03:04:36", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "But we don't I I'm not for sure that that was liquid mercury. It could be some other type of liquid metal that we"}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:50", "text": "haven't discovered yet. But right, I believe it was some type of some type of liquid metal"}, {"start": "03:04:50", "end": "03:04:56", "text": "that was stationary at the time when he brought up the screen and and it started"}, {"start": "03:04:56", "end": "03:05:04", "text": "up and this uh liquid metal started rotating in a in a circle spinning um"}, {"start": "03:05:04", "end": "03:05:10", "text": "something that was similar to when it was stopped. It was similar to like the yin-yang symbol, you know, the black and"}, {"start": "03:05:10", "end": "03:05:15", "text": "white S with the two y dots on on either side."}, {"start": "03:05:15", "end": "03:05:22", "text": "I It It kind of resembled that appearance, but you know, this wasn't, you know, I wasn't looking straight down"}, {"start": "03:05:22", "end": "03:05:30", "text": "at it. This was at an angle and I was interpreting the information kind of like that yin-yang symbol. Um, but with"}, {"start": "03:05:30", "end": "03:05:35", "text": "the liquid metal rotating, spinning, causing other things to rotate and spin."}, {"start": "03:05:35", "end": "03:05:40", "text": "and it was charged in a way where it started to glow um some sort of uh"}, {"start": "03:05:40", "end": "03:05:49", "text": "plasma around it and it was changing color. So this was spinning extremely fast and it was charged electrified in"}, {"start": "03:05:49", "end": "03:05:56", "text": "some way that it was causing a glow and I tried to articulate this and in sketches and and shooting this over to"}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "uh uh Dr. Drew. We'll bring it up here and Yeah. Yeah, we'll definitely bring that up. I I would love you know what's"}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:06", "text": "so cool about this as well Jeremy is that everything you're saying and everything that we're looking at right"}, {"start": "03:06:06", "end": "03:06:13", "text": "here like there's a hive mind out there right now that's watching this with us okay and this is the whole of the internet"}, {"start": "03:06:13", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "there are brilliant people watching this there are people who are studying advanced physics and sciences and all"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "all the soft and hard sciences and collectively you know it's another"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:31", "text": "one of the reasons why again I'm so thankful that you're doing this because you're giving not just me this"}, {"start": "03:06:31", "end": "03:06:38", "text": "information. You're you're giving this information to humanity and whoever's out there who's on this path to try and"}, {"start": "03:06:38", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "you know help disclosure, help whatever that is to to to come to light a little"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:50", "text": "bit and shine some light on this stuff. I mean they're they're going to find something in here that they can use for"}, {"start": "03:06:50", "end": "03:06:56", "text": "for that. And that's I am constantly getting new information. I'm constantly"}, {"start": "03:06:56", "end": "03:07:03", "text": "receiving messages in some fashion. Not every day, not every night, but you know, once"}, {"start": "03:07:03", "end": "03:07:09", "text": "twice a month, maybe once a month. Maybe I'll go a few months without anything and I'll have something. But I'm I'm"}, {"start": "03:07:09", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "constantly am bombarded with very clear messages, very vivid messages. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:20", "text": "I would be happy to some engineers, you know, I'd be happy to to to assist and"}, {"start": "03:07:20", "end": "03:07:25", "text": "help, you know, because honestly, I'm just I'm burnt out with the radar stuff, you"}, {"start": "03:07:25", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "know, I've been doing it for so long. I'm ready to move to something different, you know. I would love to"}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:40", "text": "to to go on the investigative side of things, you know, where I'm not sitting and told to sit there and just, hey,"}, {"start": "03:07:40", "end": "03:07:47", "text": "somebody else is going to do this. I wanna I want to get involved, you know. I want to help out. You know, I have that engineering background. You know, I"}, {"start": "03:07:47", "end": "03:07:52", "text": "would be happy to help. Yeah. And I'm sure, you know, after this airs, you'll probably get some phone"}, {"start": "03:07:52", "end": "03:07:58", "text": "calls. I would I would talk to me. That's why I took the I took the mask off. I'm I'm not going by Sarn"}, {"start": "03:07:58", "end": "03:08:03", "text": "First Class CJ anymore. Yeah. You know, my name's out there. It's time. Hit me up."}, {"start": "03:08:03", "end": "03:08:09", "text": "Um, I would also heir on the side of caution when it comes to that because throwing out an open invitation like"}, {"start": "03:08:09", "end": "03:08:14", "text": "that can uh lead to all sorts of uh sorts of things. Yeah, definitely. But you're a smart guy."}, {"start": "03:08:14", "end": "03:08:20", "text": "I I mean no threat to anyone, especially my own country, you know. I I I chose to"}, {"start": "03:08:20", "end": "03:08:25", "text": "defend my country. I'm I'm honorable person. M and I will"}, {"start": "03:08:25", "end": "03:08:32", "text": "not uh I do not want to create any negative impact within our within my"}, {"start": "03:08:32", "end": "03:08:37", "text": "country and with within the world, you know, per se. So, yeah, I'm not going to divulge things that I'm not supposed to"}, {"start": "03:08:37", "end": "03:08:44", "text": "talk about. Yeah. But, you know, I think some sharp minds getting together and and just working"}, {"start": "03:08:44", "end": "03:08:50", "text": "out things. Yeah. Would be great, you know. All right, let's continue on this."}, {"start": "03:08:50", "end": "03:08:58", "text": "Creator will stand aside. 14 guardians remain on."}, {"start": "03:08:58", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "Okay. Creator will stand aside. Creator will stand aside. Don't like that. Um 14 guardians remain on. Now, I"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:11", "text": "wonder if this is a reference to Ike's embedded citizens. Um but also here we have in in"}, {"start": "03:09:11", "end": "03:09:18", "text": "parentheses space force because that is what we refer to the space force"}, {"start": "03:09:18", "end": "03:09:23", "text": "officers as. guardians. Okay. So that's why I think Dr. Drew said, you"}, {"start": "03:09:23", "end": "03:09:29", "text": "know, 14 guardians remain on. But 14 Yeah. I want to see something here. I was"}, {"start": "03:09:29", "end": "03:09:34", "text": "And this is Yeah. Okay. This is way before the Space Force, though. When did the Space Force"}, {"start": "03:09:34", "end": "03:09:41", "text": "uh Yeah, this is a couple years ago. A few years ago. Yep. Not 2016, right? No. So that's just interesting. Is it"}, {"start": "03:09:41", "end": "03:09:47", "text": "related? Is it not related? I don't know. Or maybe this this this group of five expanded to 14. Yep."}, {"start": "03:09:47", "end": "03:09:53", "text": "And maybe the creator of the group Mhm. will stand aside. Stand aside and allow them to work out,"}, {"start": "03:09:53", "end": "03:09:59", "text": "you know. Yeah. I don't know. Or yeah, some creator of a program or something."}, {"start": "03:09:59", "end": "03:10:06", "text": "Yeah, this one this one's Yeah, this one's throwing me throwing me off a bit. Definitely enigmatic. Maybe it maybe"}, {"start": "03:10:06", "end": "03:10:14", "text": "some of your viewers might have some opinions about that, you know, that maybe they can um maybe they can write and uh yeah, in"}, {"start": "03:10:14", "end": "03:10:19", "text": "the bottom we could read this later, you know, that would be there'll be a lot of that interesting. I guarantee it. Yeah. So So yeah, type in, you know,"}, {"start": "03:10:19", "end": "03:10:27", "text": "what you think this might be cuz I Yeah, I'm I'm not sure. Creator will stand aside"}, {"start": "03:10:27", "end": "03:10:34", "text": "14 guardians remain on. Remain on. Yeah. So I don't know what that would mean. I really don't."}, {"start": "03:10:34", "end": "03:10:42", "text": "And then two vaults for examination which okay and then you know we Dr. Drew"}, {"start": "03:10:42", "end": "03:10:48", "text": "here again Dr. Drew is connecting dots that you know he gater will stand aside 14 guardians"}, {"start": "03:10:48", "end": "03:10:54", "text": "remain on two vaults remain on two vaults for examination"}, {"start": "03:10:54", "end": "03:11:00", "text": "vaults and so he said vaults under the temple mount perhaps was his suggestion. Okay."}, {"start": "03:11:00", "end": "03:11:05", "text": "Um you know Dr. Drew here again just uh leaping um brainstorming. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:11:05", "end": "03:11:12", "text": "Yeah, exactly. He's brainstorming. He's really good at brainstorming. He really is. Yeah. And then black 68* 6 and then in"}, {"start": "03:11:12", "end": "03:11:20", "text": "parentheses nine. So he he thinks black symbols will create a picture 68 or 69 per line. And that's when you know he"}, {"start": "03:11:20", "end": "03:11:26", "text": "took the liberty of making these uh oh these images"}, {"start": "03:11:26", "end": "03:11:32", "text": "where the boxes and lines create images. Yeah. And it kind of does. This sounds like another This is like"}, {"start": "03:11:32", "end": "03:11:38", "text": "another little morph into things, you know, where the boxes and lines don't dispel very"}, {"start": "03:11:38", "end": "03:11:44", "text": "thorough information, but they're displaying imagery. Yeah, that's wild."}, {"start": "03:11:44", "end": "03:11:50", "text": "And that's Yeah, that becomes like a fourthdimensional thing perhaps. Maybe maybe if we can put these into some type"}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:56", "text": "of like cuz on two dimensions they look almost like an image. There's almost"}, {"start": "03:11:56", "end": "03:12:01", "text": "something there. Like it's not quite perfect. Right. Right. Maybe if they're lined up."}, {"start": "03:12:01", "end": "03:12:08", "text": "Maybe if there's a different way, another pattern. Exactly. Another shape. I think of the the movie Contact with"}, {"start": "03:12:08", "end": "03:12:14", "text": "Jodie Foster. They don't line up. They do. If you think like a pagan,"}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:21", "text": "every threedimensional page contains a piece of the printer."}, {"start": "03:12:21", "end": "03:12:28", "text": "There it was all the time, staring you in the face. buried within the message itself is the"}, {"start": "03:12:28", "end": "03:12:34", "text": "key to decoding it. Okay. Yeah. They were given like four uh six sides of a cube essentially to put"}, {"start": "03:12:34", "end": "03:12:40", "text": "together. You're good at those. So yeah, you're good at those puzzle bots is maybe you can take this."}, {"start": "03:12:40", "end": "03:12:48", "text": "Yeah. And then copy it every, you know, the zeros and ones precisely how it is"}, {"start": "03:12:48", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "and maybe adjust it and I mean you're good at this. Maybe you can solve that. Yeah, maybe. Or Yeah. I can just help"}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:02", "text": "someone solve it perhaps. But yes, I would definitely take a crack at it. Um I'm I'm also going to leave the website"}, {"start": "03:13:02", "end": "03:13:09", "text": "um where you can find all of this below which is uh crop circle connector, right? Maybe some other listeners, you"}, {"start": "03:13:09", "end": "03:13:14", "text": "know, have the ability to do this. That would be fascinating. It would be fascinating. I mean it's"}, {"start": "03:13:14", "end": "03:13:21", "text": "it's so fascinating you know you know as as this happens you know"}, {"start": "03:13:21", "end": "03:13:29", "text": "it still blows your mind that you know if if anyone sits back and thinks about"}, {"start": "03:13:29", "end": "03:13:34", "text": "it when they go to sleep. Everybody has dreams right? You know everybody does."}, {"start": "03:13:34", "end": "03:13:39", "text": "Can you imagine if you close your eyes? If everyone closes their eyes for a minute and think about having that"}, {"start": "03:13:39", "end": "03:13:47", "text": "dream, waking up, grabbing a notebook and and a pen or"}, {"start": "03:13:47", "end": "03:13:53", "text": "pencil and start writing down these boxes and lines that you see, and you"}, {"start": "03:13:53", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "look at it as like just gibberish because you're not fully awake. And then"}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:05", "text": "you go back to sleep and in the morning you shoot this over to somebody who's able to translate it and it turns out to"}, {"start": "03:14:05", "end": "03:14:11", "text": "be something like several several different meanings, several different uh messages all in"}, {"start": "03:14:11", "end": "03:14:18", "text": "one. And it and how they line up with so many other things. I mean is it's it's"}, {"start": "03:14:18", "end": "03:14:24", "text": "essentially like it's like a micro nuclear bomb going off in your head of"}, {"start": "03:14:24", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "how how impactful that it could be. You know what I mean? I mean, I'm sure"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:35", "text": "people have had vivid dreams before, but these happen all the time with me."}, {"start": "03:14:35", "end": "03:14:40", "text": "All the time. Are you afraid for your life at times?"}, {"start": "03:14:40", "end": "03:14:46", "text": "What What makes you afraid for your life? Well, the messages"}, {"start": "03:14:46", "end": "03:14:51", "text": "um or sharing them. Sharing them uh is what"}, {"start": "03:14:51", "end": "03:14:58", "text": "it worries me a little bit. I don't want to put the um family in in jeopardy. I don't want I don't want to bring"}, {"start": "03:14:58", "end": "03:15:03", "text": "negativity to, you know, to my household, you know. Um I'm a peaceful"}, {"start": "03:15:03", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "person. I mean, I haven't always been peaceful. Of course, in war, you know, you're and uh military, you you're"}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:15", "text": "you're just trying to survive. You're not you're not a murderous savage that's"}, {"start": "03:15:15", "end": "03:15:20", "text": "running around. You know, you're you're trying to defend yourself and defend defend the the soldiers that are with"}, {"start": "03:15:20", "end": "03:15:26", "text": "you and you're you're just trying to survive it and move on. You're trying to do your job. you want to serve your"}, {"start": "03:15:26", "end": "03:15:33", "text": "country and serve it in the best capacity you can. So, I'll never go against my country. I'll never go against um our armed"}, {"start": "03:15:33", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "services. You know, I'm I'm proud of everyone I served with. So, um I'm I'm"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:45", "text": "concerned that, you know, some of this information might uh upset someone or trigger someone. And that's not my"}, {"start": "03:15:45", "end": "03:15:51", "text": "intention. You know, someone in the government or I don't want to upset anyone in the government. I really don't. You know, I"}, {"start": "03:15:51", "end": "03:15:57", "text": "want them, you know, to have their own opinions about things. But don't don't don't bring violence upon anyone else,"}, {"start": "03:15:57", "end": "03:16:05", "text": "you know, because of this. You know, you you're you're a free person. You can have your own opinions about it. Um you"}, {"start": "03:16:05", "end": "03:16:10", "text": "can make your own judgments. I'm not telling you to believe what I have to what I what I've done, what's happened"}, {"start": "03:16:10", "end": "03:16:16", "text": "to me. I'm not asking anyone to believe it. I'm asking people to just accept the"}, {"start": "03:16:16", "end": "03:16:23", "text": "information and make your own judgments, make your own determinations of things. uh how what do you get out of it? You"}, {"start": "03:16:23", "end": "03:16:29", "text": "know, I mean, because I get I get something out of it. It's it's wild to me. It it's it's it's wild, chaotic."}, {"start": "03:16:29", "end": "03:16:36", "text": "There's a lot of emotions involved in it. So, uh I'm asking everyone just to"}, {"start": "03:16:36", "end": "03:16:42", "text": "interpret it the way you want, you know. H well said. It's um it's definitely a"}, {"start": "03:16:42", "end": "03:16:49", "text": "big pill to swallow and you know it it does tick so many boxes"}, {"start": "03:16:49", "end": "03:16:57", "text": "and it obviously connects so many dots to a lot of the lore that's out there. So it's for me it's this is fascinating"}, {"start": "03:16:57", "end": "03:17:04", "text": "because it's one of those things that connects this like sort of lore world that we"}, {"start": "03:17:04", "end": "03:17:09", "text": "observe and research and the real world. Absolutely. And now we're like, wait a"}, {"start": "03:17:09", "end": "03:17:16", "text": "second, we have an actual link here. And that for me is, you know, really valuable in in trying to decipher this"}, {"start": "03:17:16", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "whole puzzle. It's starting to combine. So there's there's it it's starting to blend"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:28", "text": "together. Um, the more you look at it there. Uh, okay. I want to I want to"}, {"start": "03:17:28", "end": "03:17:36", "text": "touch on a few things. Um, if you if you're still Oh, yeah. Okay. One thing you told me this really"}, {"start": "03:17:36", "end": "03:17:44", "text": "incredible story last night. Okay. Do you mind telling that? The one that happened with the uh the females."}, {"start": "03:17:44", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "Do you remember this one in in the restaurant where you got locked out? Uh where I got locked out."}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:56", "text": "Um so from base you you um it was like 10:30 at night was like the time you had"}, {"start": "03:17:56", "end": "03:18:01", "text": "to go back but then you went back and it was shut down. But then like you went to this restaurant, you went to this coffee shop."}, {"start": "03:18:01", "end": "03:18:07", "text": "Oh yes. Uh, yes. This happened uh in Iraq. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:18:07", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "Um, I wasn't working at the time. I was I I won't I won't go into detail my my"}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:21", "text": "job there uh as a civilian but I I was working on the installation"}, {"start": "03:18:21", "end": "03:18:28", "text": "and uh a uh fellow contractor was having a birthday and uh this was out in Urbil"}, {"start": "03:18:28", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "and uh Urbil Iraq and uh I had gone to his birthday at this location and um it"}, {"start": "03:18:37", "end": "03:18:44", "text": "was a karaoke spot and I played pool there from time to time. So, uh I I had"}, {"start": "03:18:44", "end": "03:18:53", "text": "gone and uh they had food and stuff. So, I was eating food and playing some pool and uh I knew I had to I looked at my"}, {"start": "03:18:53", "end": "03:18:58", "text": "watch at one point and I was like, \"Oh no, it's almost time before they they lock down the base and I can't get back"}, {"start": "03:18:58", "end": "03:19:04", "text": "on.\" I'm like, \"Oh my god, I got to I got to go. I got to go.\" And so, I kind of rushed out and I said, \"Thanks."}, {"start": "03:19:04", "end": "03:19:10", "text": "Thanks.\" And I took off to try to make it back to the gate and I didn't make it back in time. So they turned me around."}, {"start": "03:19:10", "end": "03:19:16", "text": "So I was agitated. I was like, \"Man, I can't believe I missed that.\" And so I"}, {"start": "03:19:16", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "went right back. And he was still there and a lot of the other guys were still there cuz a lot of them lived and uh"}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:28", "text": "little apartments and stuff out there in so I was just like, \"Okay, well I I'll"}, {"start": "03:19:28", "end": "03:19:34", "text": "go back. Yeah, I can't get back on base now.\" So um I had work to do and I wanted to get back to my work, you know,"}, {"start": "03:19:34", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "because I kind of engulfed myself with with my work. I enjoy it. Right. I have enjoyed it over over the many years cuz"}, {"start": "03:19:41", "end": "03:19:46", "text": "I know what I'm doing. So, uh I wanted to get back and I didn't make it in time. So, I went back and hung out. Um I"}, {"start": "03:19:46", "end": "03:19:52", "text": "stayed pretty late till about 2:00 in the morning. Um and then I uh needed to"}, {"start": "03:19:52", "end": "03:19:58", "text": "kill time because everybody was going home. Everybody was spending time with with each other and everyone was getting"}, {"start": "03:19:58", "end": "03:20:04", "text": "tired and rolling out. I decided I'm going to go down to the coffee shop with this other guy who who didn't make time"}, {"start": "03:20:04", "end": "03:20:10", "text": "as well. There's a couple of us that didn't make it back in time. So, we decided to go to this little coffee"}, {"start": "03:20:10", "end": "03:20:17", "text": "restaurant uh breakfast spot and uh uh we went and sat down and ate and ordered"}, {"start": "03:20:17", "end": "03:20:22", "text": "our coffees and and you know, I got my little egg breakfast thing going and"}, {"start": "03:20:22", "end": "03:20:28", "text": "while we were sitting there um a buddy of mine mentioned that like uh"}, {"start": "03:20:28", "end": "03:20:36", "text": "okay, well, we we're not alone. There's more coming in. And I kind of glance over and this one guy and uh four"}, {"start": "03:20:36", "end": "03:20:42", "text": "females. They were uh dressed in um you know um"}, {"start": "03:20:42", "end": "03:20:49", "text": "flashy um Arabic Arabic um"}, {"start": "03:20:49", "end": "03:20:54", "text": "attire. Um so I they didn't have their faces"}, {"start": "03:20:54", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "covered. It was just their hair that was covered. the you know vibrant colors,"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:05", "text": "blues and purples and greens and gold and um silver and their and their"}, {"start": "03:21:05", "end": "03:21:12", "text": "clothing. Uh it was women dressed nicely had come in with this you know basic guy"}, {"start": "03:21:12", "end": "03:21:19", "text": "you know um beard I um and as they were coming to the table"}, {"start": "03:21:19", "end": "03:21:26", "text": "I noticed it had the brilliant most brilliant colored eyes blues and most of"}, {"start": "03:21:26", "end": "03:21:32", "text": "them had like a blue colored eye eyes and one was slightly violet almost"}, {"start": "03:21:32", "end": "03:21:38", "text": "purple and it was like I was there just staring at me and they had beautiful,"}, {"start": "03:21:38", "end": "03:21:45", "text": "beautiful eyes, a little bit larger than than than mine or yours, just a little bit. You barely noticeable,"}, {"start": "03:21:45", "end": "03:21:51", "text": "but I just could not get over how bright and brilliant they were, you know, and"}, {"start": "03:21:51", "end": "03:21:57", "text": "it was like mesmerizing almost. And they were just staring at me and they walked"}, {"start": "03:21:57", "end": "03:22:04", "text": "right by the table, two of us. He's sitting across, you know, from me and he's just kind of he's kind of glancing"}, {"start": "03:22:04", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "over like Why are they staring? And he didn't say it out loud, but he's thinking like, why"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:15", "text": "are they staring at you, dude? Like, did you say something? And I didn't say nothing. And and then they they just"}, {"start": "03:22:15", "end": "03:22:22", "text": "casually sat down. They didn't say a word the entire time that they were there. They never opened their mouth to"}, {"start": "03:22:22", "end": "03:22:27", "text": "speak. This guy um ordered everything for them. And all they ate was"}, {"start": "03:22:27", "end": "03:22:33", "text": "vegetables. All they ate was vegetables. the guy, he ordered like lamb and some"}, {"start": "03:22:33", "end": "03:22:41", "text": "other stuff and he got a coffee. They were just drinking water and eating vegetables and it was just it was weird"}, {"start": "03:22:41", "end": "03:22:46", "text": "for me. But while they were sitting there, they just kept staring at me all all"}, {"start": "03:22:46", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "all the all the women at the same time. Not at the same time, but at different times they were they would look over at me and then look at"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:59", "text": "each other and look over at me almost like they were communicating without verbally, without verbal communication, but"}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:06", "text": "communicating, you know, non-verbal. And then I just kept hearing in my head, why are you here? Do you need help? What"}, {"start": "03:23:06", "end": "03:23:12", "text": "what's your purpose? Like why are you here? I kept hearing this in my head. Nobody else could hear it. He couldn't"}, {"start": "03:23:12", "end": "03:23:18", "text": "hear anything. and he's sitting across from me and we're trying to talk quietly like, \"Dude, they're not saying"}, {"start": "03:23:18", "end": "03:23:26", "text": "anything.\" And he's like, \"I know they're not nothing's coming out of their mouth, you know, and this guy's already knows exactly what they want and"}, {"start": "03:23:26", "end": "03:23:31", "text": "they're not speaking.\" And the guy's looking at them and their eyes, they're"}, {"start": "03:23:31", "end": "03:23:37", "text": "looking back at each other. And then the guy's looking at me. I'm like, \"What did I do? Why am I Why are you Why are you"}, {"start": "03:23:37", "end": "03:23:42", "text": "staring at me so much? Do I look like an American that bad?\" I mean, yeah, I"}, {"start": "03:23:42", "end": "03:23:48", "text": "already know I don't fit in, but uh I you know, I I tend to I tend to just"}, {"start": "03:23:48", "end": "03:23:53", "text": "wear just plain regular clothes, you know, try to blend in as much as possible. I don't want to stand out, you"}, {"start": "03:23:53", "end": "03:23:59", "text": "know, as the American and and I uh and and you know, I don't want to stand out too"}, {"start": "03:23:59", "end": "03:24:05", "text": "bad that night, you know. I I wouldn't even play planned on going out, you know, but I did. And it was just odd"}, {"start": "03:24:05", "end": "03:24:10", "text": "that they never said a word. The only one who spoke was the guy. And the guy"}, {"start": "03:24:10", "end": "03:24:16", "text": "just seemed normal. And you kept getting psychic interactions. Getting messages like, \"Do you need help? Why are you here? What's your"}, {"start": "03:24:16", "end": "03:24:23", "text": "purpose? What what's your purpose here?\" They sound curious. And I'm hearing it in my head, but not"}, {"start": "03:24:23", "end": "03:24:28", "text": "audible. And you asked your friend. They said, \"Do you hear that?\" And I don't hear they haven't said a word. It's been dead"}, {"start": "03:24:28", "end": "03:24:34", "text": "silent. Only he only he's been talking. He's like, \"That's all I've heard is him talking, you know, to the waiter and"}, {"start": "03:24:34", "end": "03:24:40", "text": "stuff.\" I was like, he's not hearing it in his head like I can't. And so I'm like, okay, well, I don't want to I"}, {"start": "03:24:40", "end": "03:24:47", "text": "don't want my friend to think I'm crazy, so I'm just going to keep this kind kind of to myself, but they're they're talking to me in my head like asking me"}, {"start": "03:24:47", "end": "03:24:53", "text": "if I need help or anything. And I'm just in the back of my in back of my mind. I'm not verbally saying it, but I was"}, {"start": "03:24:53", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "like, \"No, I'm okay. I'm good.\" You know, I'm just You're saying it to them. I'm saying it in my head. I'm trying to"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:06", "text": "I mean I don't know I don't know if the message was received or not but I'm thinking it in my head. Nope. I'm good."}, {"start": "03:25:06", "end": "03:25:12", "text": "I'm all right. Just got to just got to wait a few more hours so I can go back to work. You know,"}, {"start": "03:25:12", "end": "03:25:17", "text": "I'm just saying that in my head. I'm not speaking it. Yeah. I don't know if it's I don't know if it's being picked up."}, {"start": "03:25:17", "end": "03:25:23", "text": "I don't know if it's being received, but I just kept getting like, \"Do you need any help? Do you need you need help? Do"}, {"start": "03:25:23", "end": "03:25:29", "text": "do you need assistance? You know, why are you here?\" Man, what's your purpose? Like, yeah, yeah, help me out. Uh yeah,"}, {"start": "03:25:29", "end": "03:25:34", "text": "it was a bit intimidating. Yeah, I bet. Dude, you know, you you don't want to offend people in their own"}, {"start": "03:25:34", "end": "03:25:39", "text": "country, you know, you want to be as most respectful as possible, you know, but also in that country, women are not"}, {"start": "03:25:39", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "staring at other men. No, that's the other thing. You You know, that was another thing that was throwing me off."}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:52", "text": "Did they look Arabic from their complexion? Do they look like uh Middle Eastern or like Yes, they they looked Middle Eastern,"}, {"start": "03:25:52", "end": "03:25:58", "text": "you know, like from except with like light eyes, very brilliant eyes. and and almost"}, {"start": "03:25:58", "end": "03:26:06", "text": "flamboyant um clothing. Yeah. And the other thing that I noticed is they all had purses"}, {"start": "03:26:06", "end": "03:26:12", "text": "with them on their shoulder. Is that unusual? Um no, it's not unusual for a woman to"}, {"start": "03:26:12", "end": "03:26:19", "text": "carry a purse, but they never took the purse off, right? They were sitting down. They all had their purses still on their shoulders"}, {"start": "03:26:19", "end": "03:26:25", "text": "or draped over them. They never removed their purse. They never took it off and set it on the floor. They never rumbled"}, {"start": "03:26:25", "end": "03:26:31", "text": "through their purse. It just stayed there and they continued to eat and drink and wa and so it was just"}, {"start": "03:26:31", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "that's a crazy detail. stare at each other and look at another person and stare at them. Look at me."}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:42", "text": "Yeah. Like and it was just like what? And trying to fit in. Yeah. Okay. So then they get up and"}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:49", "text": "leave. Is that it? They leave before you? They left before us. So I mean um they uh they finished eating and"}, {"start": "03:26:49", "end": "03:26:56", "text": "drinking their water. Yeah. and uh he paid and they got up and were leaving. But they as each one"}, {"start": "03:26:56", "end": "03:27:02", "text": "passed me by they staring me down. I mean not aggressively, not"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:08", "text": "not I didn't feel um any sort of um feeling or emotion behind it and like"}, {"start": "03:27:08", "end": "03:27:16", "text": "nothing negative. Absolutely. Nothing um curiosity or Yeah, more more or less with curiosity."}, {"start": "03:27:16", "end": "03:27:21", "text": "And you know when they walked by they each looked at me with a pause like like"}, {"start": "03:27:21", "end": "03:27:27", "text": "they were you good? Are you okay? You know just kind of I kept hearing in my head. You good? You all right? You know"}, {"start": "03:27:27", "end": "03:27:33", "text": "that's the impression that I got. You know as they walked out. That's so creepy. They jumped in this little black SUV and"}, {"start": "03:27:33", "end": "03:27:40", "text": "took off in a black SUV. There's lots of them. They're all over the place out there. Yeah. It's interesting. There's a book by a"}, {"start": "03:27:40", "end": "03:27:47", "text": "guy called Dr. David Jacobs and um he basically did a lot of regression on"}, {"start": "03:27:47", "end": "03:27:55", "text": "experiencers and wrote wrote a book called uh walking among us which is essentially talking"}, {"start": "03:27:55", "end": "03:28:00", "text": "about like how these later stage hybrids are kind of like hiding in plain sight"}, {"start": "03:28:00", "end": "03:28:05", "text": "but also not too familiar with how to be human quite yet, right? And they're kind of learning from us."}, {"start": "03:28:05", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "And so I hear a lot of these quirky stories of them emulating what people"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:16", "text": "would do but not entirely getting it right. Right. And so one of those instances might be"}, {"start": "03:28:16", "end": "03:28:22", "text": "like keeping your purse on the whole time you're eating. Like it's"}, {"start": "03:28:22", "end": "03:28:29", "text": "such a dumb detail. Yeah. Uh to but it's an important detail to fit in, you know, but like to teach that"}, {"start": "03:28:29", "end": "03:28:35", "text": "if you're teaching someone how to be human, you're like, \"Oh yeah, you go out, you leave your purse.\" You don't always maybe you forget to mention, oh"}, {"start": "03:28:35", "end": "03:28:43", "text": "yeah, while you're eating, put your purse on the ground, pick it back up before you leave. Like these are just small details that I can see someone"}, {"start": "03:28:43", "end": "03:28:49", "text": "overlooking who's trying to assimilate and trying to look human, you know?"}, {"start": "03:28:49", "end": "03:28:55", "text": "Right. Right. Right. There was another story that uh Nick Pope was here and he was he got a call"}, {"start": "03:28:55", "end": "03:29:00", "text": "about uh this group of people looking very strange and they and they all get"}, {"start": "03:29:00", "end": "03:29:07", "text": "together to buy a single pencil at an art store with like a a big denomination bill, right? A single pencil and they're all"}, {"start": "03:29:07", "end": "03:29:13", "text": "kind of like looking and then the ladies like gives them their change and they didn't know what to do with the change."}, {"start": "03:29:13", "end": "03:29:20", "text": "They didn't know what like and so like there's this interaction like ooh we're going to go buy a pencil that's what humans do or whatever and then not know"}, {"start": "03:29:20", "end": "03:29:25", "text": "that oh ch oh oh what is this what are they giving me like having no concept of like that yes"}, {"start": "03:29:25", "end": "03:29:31", "text": "so you hear I'm showing I want this one thing but you're giving me a bunch of things back I'm confused"}, {"start": "03:29:31", "end": "03:29:37", "text": "yeah they're all buying one like it makes no sense and she was so scared that she ended up calling like the UFO"}, {"start": "03:29:37", "end": "03:29:42", "text": "hotline or whatever yeah when you got a group of people all standing in line to buy one pencil Yeah."}, {"start": "03:29:42", "end": "03:29:48", "text": "Throws you off. That would Yeah, that would throw out some red flags in your brain quite a bit, you know?"}, {"start": "03:29:48", "end": "03:29:54", "text": "Yeah. It just feels uncanny. People Yes. We're only here to buy this one pencil. That would Yeah, that that's"}, {"start": "03:29:54", "end": "03:29:59", "text": "very similar. It was like 10 people. It was like a lot. Was a whole bunch. Yeah. A whole bunch of people. Like we're all here to buy this one"}, {"start": "03:29:59", "end": "03:30:07", "text": "pencil. Yeah, exactly. It's wild. Yeah. It's wild. But you read a lot about those type of interactions where you're like, man, you"}, {"start": "03:30:07", "end": "03:30:12", "text": "it's just you're you're you're just adjacent to being a normal person, but there's something off. There's like some"}, {"start": "03:30:12", "end": "03:30:17", "text": "uncanny valley happening. Something glaring right in your face. Holding that. Yeah. Holding that purse"}, {"start": "03:30:17", "end": "03:30:25", "text": "the entire time. So the purse the whole time was was something that just threw me off. Yep. It was like protected with that one arm"}, {"start": "03:30:25", "end": "03:30:32", "text": "the entire time. Like nothing can happen to this purse. It must stay right on me this entire time."}, {"start": "03:30:32", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "Almost like if it was a life support thing. You know what's funny? You know what I mean? There probably nothing in that purse."}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:44", "text": "There could be nothing. That's probably they're probably just like, you know, trying to look human, be like, I need this purse, but"}, {"start": "03:30:44", "end": "03:30:50", "text": "or maybe it's something to protect themselves with maybe because they're not familiar with human"}, {"start": "03:30:50", "end": "03:30:55", "text": "interaction. They're not familiar with um Muslim way of things."}, {"start": "03:30:55", "end": "03:31:03", "text": "Sure. And especially women do not stare Yeah. at men like that, you know, with their"}, {"start": "03:31:03", "end": "03:31:09", "text": "faces uncovered. Yeah. And they didn't look drunk or anything, did they? Or like No. No. They not morning. What do you think?"}, {"start": "03:31:09", "end": "03:31:17", "text": "They were they were sitting upright. Perfect posture. Oh, staring at each other, very"}, {"start": "03:31:17", "end": "03:31:23", "text": "casually eating, you know, not rushing, not uh sipping their water with elegance, you"}, {"start": "03:31:23", "end": "03:31:30", "text": "know, staring at me and, you know, just not just staring. When they walked by, they stopped stopped walking and were"}, {"start": "03:31:30", "end": "03:31:38", "text": "staring at me just just in a more mesmerized, questioning way. You know, you don't do that. That's not"}, {"start": "03:31:38", "end": "03:31:46", "text": "that's not a common behavior. It's a it's a behavior that really stands out is uncommon there. So, and I was trying"}, {"start": "03:31:46", "end": "03:31:51", "text": "to avoid staring back. So, I was like, \"Yeah, it's awkward."}, {"start": "03:31:51", "end": "03:31:56", "text": "I don't want to offend anybody, but I It was It was wild. It was so wild. And the"}, {"start": "03:31:56", "end": "03:32:03", "text": "guy that was with them, he seemed he was not in charge of them whatsoever. He was"}, {"start": "03:32:03", "end": "03:32:08", "text": "just there to help. And that's another characteristic that jumped out at me"}, {"start": "03:32:08", "end": "03:32:14", "text": "because usually men are in control of everything I see. Over there, you know, with a with a group of women. He was also Middle Eastern."}, {"start": "03:32:14", "end": "03:32:22", "text": "Yes. And that that that's something that was uncommon to me, you know, because usually when um a let's say a co-orker"}, {"start": "03:32:22", "end": "03:32:27", "text": "or a boss takes some of the ladies out for a dinner, he's in charge. you know,"}, {"start": "03:32:27", "end": "03:32:34", "text": "he's he's uh he's both protecting them, feeding them, and is usually in charge"}, {"start": "03:32:34", "end": "03:32:40", "text": "of the situation. Yeah. A bit of a chaperon type deal or he seemed like he was being chaperoned"}, {"start": "03:32:40", "end": "03:32:47", "text": "by them. Oh, weird. Like they were in charge, but not saying a word. He ordered everything for them,"}, {"start": "03:32:47", "end": "03:32:53", "text": "but they didn't say a word. It was like the entire I never heard their voice. They were controlling him besides in my head, but it was all the"}, {"start": "03:32:53", "end": "03:32:58", "text": "same in my head. You know, they just grabbed some random human. And they're like, \"We're hungry.\" And you're"}, {"start": "03:32:58", "end": "03:33:04", "text": "going to order for us. Do exactly what we asked, you know? Hey, it's not a bad deal. Three beautiful Middle Eastern women taking"}, {"start": "03:33:04", "end": "03:33:10", "text": "you out to the four. Yeah. I mean, hey, it was it was wild. Might be a good time. That's crazy."}, {"start": "03:33:10", "end": "03:33:17", "text": "Gosh. Yeah. These interactions fascinate me to no extent. Um,"}, {"start": "03:33:18", "end": "03:33:24", "text": "you know, as these as these messages that you're"}, {"start": "03:33:24", "end": "03:33:30", "text": "receiving go on, do you feel"}, {"start": "03:33:30", "end": "03:33:35", "text": "are you still you're still are you writing them all down? Uh, I have. Yes. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:33:35", "end": "03:33:43", "text": "Not all of them. Not all of them. I mean, I I I had I I do at times have um moments where I just"}, {"start": "03:33:43", "end": "03:33:49", "text": "need to take a break from it, you know. Um it's it's it's hard to hard to"}, {"start": "03:33:49", "end": "03:33:55", "text": "imagine, but it's a it's taxing. It's taxing on your on your uh you don't"}, {"start": "03:33:55", "end": "03:34:01", "text": "want to lose touch with yourself as well. You know what I mean? And so there's there's times where I just didn't, you know, write them down. It"}, {"start": "03:34:01", "end": "03:34:08", "text": "was like, okay, or maybe in my perspective of things, this is this is"}, {"start": "03:34:08", "end": "03:34:13", "text": "not that important right now, you know, I got other things going on. And then they seem to slow down a little"}, {"start": "03:34:13", "end": "03:34:19", "text": "bit during those times. And then when I'm ready to start writing things down again, they it picks up again and a lot"}, {"start": "03:34:19", "end": "03:34:24", "text": "of times. So, do you ever try communicating back? Uh, just thinking."}, {"start": "03:34:24", "end": "03:34:31", "text": "Do you ever get answers to what you're thinking? Um, sometimes. Um, very seldom. What's"}, {"start": "03:34:31", "end": "03:34:38", "text": "what's an example of an answer you've gotten back? Like, hey, I've got a lot of things going on right now. You know, I got I a"}, {"start": "03:34:38", "end": "03:34:43", "text": "kid getting ready to graduate. I've got, you know, I've got some things going on. I I don't I don't have time for this"}, {"start": "03:34:43", "end": "03:34:50", "text": "right now. And then it just calm down. Just calm down for a while. Yeah. I mean, but it's just thinking through"}, {"start": "03:34:50", "end": "03:34:56", "text": "some of this stuff. Um, I've asked, can you give me some more direct answers"}, {"start": "03:34:56", "end": "03:35:01", "text": "that are helpful? something that that I could something I can articulate down"}, {"start": "03:35:01", "end": "03:35:07", "text": "write down and it it's like epiphany for everybody. So we you just give you cut to the chase and just give me the"}, {"start": "03:35:07", "end": "03:35:13", "text": "answer. Yeah. Stop giving me like some leave wild goose chase. Leave leave the cryptic out. Just just"}, {"start": "03:35:13", "end": "03:35:19", "text": "give me the straight answer. No. No. And I get a response like no you have to be"}, {"start": "03:35:19", "end": "03:35:25", "text": "educated to that level. And so that's the impression that I get that this"}, {"start": "03:35:25", "end": "03:35:32", "text": "happens for a reason. And it has to happen in the steps that are h that it's happening in. And so they're not going"}, {"start": "03:35:32", "end": "03:35:37", "text": "to give you a straight answer. They're going to educate you to get that straight answer in time."}, {"start": "03:35:37", "end": "03:35:45", "text": "You feel like you're progressing. I I feel like I I always feel like it's progressing. But progressing not fast, but at the"}, {"start": "03:35:45", "end": "03:35:51", "text": "pace that it's supposed to progress at, you know. Whoa. Yes. I've asked that specifically. Just"}, {"start": "03:35:51", "end": "03:35:59", "text": "give me the answer. Uh just let me solve it. Let me let me put it out there. Let me get it out there. No, it's No, it"}, {"start": "03:35:59", "end": "03:36:05", "text": "doesn't work that way. Do you feel like they're holding things back from you? I do at times. What do you think? I don't think it's I don't think it's"}, {"start": "03:36:05", "end": "03:36:13", "text": "anything bad. I think it's more along the lines of you need you need to understand things the way they work in"}, {"start": "03:36:13", "end": "03:36:20", "text": "order for it to progress further. You need we need to we need to ease you into things."}, {"start": "03:36:20", "end": "03:36:27", "text": "Huh. Because you know that it's already like a hu a super mind."}, {"start": "03:36:27", "end": "03:36:34", "text": "Yeah. A military I cuss a lot and I don't want to keep No, you're good. This is good. Mind It blows your"}, {"start": "03:36:34", "end": "03:36:41", "text": "freaking mind, dude. And if they just threw everything at me at once. I mean, who knows what would happen to my mental state. So"}, {"start": "03:36:41", "end": "03:36:47", "text": "yeah, maybe this is a way to protect myself, you know, that they're they're they're gradually"}, {"start": "03:36:47", "end": "03:36:52", "text": "sharing stuff because I I believe that that progression is needed. And then I specifically asked, just give me the"}, {"start": "03:36:52", "end": "03:36:58", "text": "answer. No, we won't do it that way. Do you think you were chosen like from like a young age? Do you think"}, {"start": "03:36:58", "end": "03:37:03", "text": "that you've been selected? A lot of strange things happened when I"}, {"start": "03:37:03", "end": "03:37:11", "text": "was a child and uh we talked about this last night. Um I was my parents were still together, my"}, {"start": "03:37:11", "end": "03:37:17", "text": "mom and dad were still married. Um I was about four and it was a time when I was"}, {"start": "03:37:17", "end": "03:37:25", "text": "about four years old where I started waking up in different parts of the house and it freaked my parents out when"}, {"start": "03:37:25", "end": "03:37:30", "text": "I wasn't in bed when they go to wake me up for school and they couldn't find me. I wasn't under the bed cuz sometimes I"}, {"start": "03:37:30", "end": "03:37:35", "text": "would go under the bed, you know, and sleep under there because I was afraid. I don't know what I was afraid of, but I"}, {"start": "03:37:35", "end": "03:37:43", "text": "was drawing a lot of pictures that my mom took away and hidden because I was draw I believe I was drawing uh you know"}, {"start": "03:37:43", "end": "03:37:49", "text": "grays and she didn't want our community, our neighborhood to think that we were crazy"}, {"start": "03:37:49", "end": "03:37:54", "text": "people. So, she hid a lot of that. But, uh I was sleeping under the bed"}, {"start": "03:37:54", "end": "03:38:00", "text": "because I was afraid when I was going to bed when I was little. You know, I'm four-year-old seeing weird things. You"}, {"start": "03:38:00", "end": "03:38:05", "text": "know, it could bother you. But uh but they would they would go in to wake me"}, {"start": "03:38:05", "end": "03:38:12", "text": "up and I wouldn't be in bed. I wouldn't be in the room. They would find me in the garage sleeping like on some um"}, {"start": "03:38:12", "end": "03:38:20", "text": "laundry that hadn't been washed yet. They would find me on the back porch locked out of the house. They would find"}, {"start": "03:38:20", "end": "03:38:26", "text": "me in random places around the house and outside of the house that I wouldn't"}, {"start": "03:38:26", "end": "03:38:34", "text": "they go out and wake me up on. I've fallen asleep in a toy box on my back porch. You know, how can a kid sleep on"}, {"start": "03:38:34", "end": "03:38:39", "text": "toys? I don't know. Kids can sleep in weird places. They can sleep hanging off of a bed"}, {"start": "03:38:39", "end": "03:38:45", "text": "sometimes. So, yeah. Um that's when they started putting locks on the windows so that"}, {"start": "03:38:45", "end": "03:38:52", "text": "they couldn't be opened. And that's when uh um things started to pick up. And there"}, {"start": "03:38:52", "end": "03:38:59", "text": "was one time where my dad was concerned and slept outside of my room. And uh"}, {"start": "03:38:59", "end": "03:39:04", "text": "because they would lock us in the room, me and my brother, they would lock me and my brother in the room because they"}, {"start": "03:39:04", "end": "03:39:11", "text": "thought I was sleepwalking. And so my dad grabbed a chair, put it outside our bedroom door, you know, tucked us in,"}, {"start": "03:39:11", "end": "03:39:18", "text": "and we went to bed. And I'd hear him outside the door. Y'all, y'all stop laughing. Y'all stop cutting up. Go to"}, {"start": "03:39:18", "end": "03:39:26", "text": "sleep. Go to bed. And so we'd stop talking and eventually fall asleep. Well, this particular time he was"}, {"start": "03:39:26", "end": "03:39:31", "text": "sleeping outside at the door and uh he had gotten up a couple of times um to"}, {"start": "03:39:31", "end": "03:39:41", "text": "stand up and stretch his legs and then lay back down and get comfortable and go back to sleep. But this morning, my they"}, {"start": "03:39:41", "end": "03:39:46", "text": "go and unlock the door to go wake us up and I'm not there. Well, the door the"}, {"start": "03:39:46", "end": "03:39:52", "text": "windows are all locked. I'm I've been locked in my room, but I'm not in there."}, {"start": "03:39:52", "end": "03:39:58", "text": "and they couldn't find me for a while. Um, I believe it was like 30, 45 minutes. They're starting to lose their"}, {"start": "03:39:58", "end": "03:40:03", "text": "mind. They called the police. They thought I had been kidnapped, but there's no there's no way anybody could"}, {"start": "03:40:03", "end": "03:40:09", "text": "have gotten in. They don't know how I disappeared. And so, they're looking everywhere. And"}, {"start": "03:40:09", "end": "03:40:15", "text": "when the police show up, they're taking information. There's a couple uh police"}, {"start": "03:40:15", "end": "03:40:23", "text": "officers that were there from what I remember. And as some of them started to to to go scour the road or the the area,"}, {"start": "03:40:23", "end": "03:40:30", "text": "one of them walked by my dad's car and saw my foot hanging out from some of my dad's work clothes. And I had fallen"}, {"start": "03:40:30", "end": "03:40:35", "text": "asleep inside my dad's locked car in the back seat. I was sleeping in the"}, {"start": "03:40:35", "end": "03:40:41", "text": "backseat of my dad's car under some of his uh work coats. He was a security"}, {"start": "03:40:41", "end": "03:40:47", "text": "guard at the time. He was one of his jackets I was sleeping under. And they"}, {"start": "03:40:47", "end": "03:40:52", "text": "had they were trying to get the door unlocked. My dad was looking for his keys. He found his keys and they"}, {"start": "03:40:52", "end": "03:40:59", "text": "unlocked the door and got me out. How'd you get in here? The door's been locked. And my dad found his keys like in the closet where he keeps them up top where"}, {"start": "03:40:59", "end": "03:41:05", "text": "he keeps his hats and stuff. He just puts his keys up there, easy for him to grab. And uh"}, {"start": "03:41:05", "end": "03:41:11", "text": "yeah, I I couldn't reach that at four years old. And I couldn't lock myself in and go back and put the keys back, you know. I"}, {"start": "03:41:11", "end": "03:41:17", "text": "ended up in a locked car driveway. Out of a locked room."}, {"start": "03:41:17", "end": "03:41:23", "text": "Yeah. In the backseat of my dad's car at four years old. You think you were abducted?"}, {"start": "03:41:23", "end": "03:41:29", "text": "You know, um that's the impression that I get. Mhm. Um"}, {"start": "03:41:29", "end": "03:41:35", "text": "and it screams that, but uh you know, no confirmation. I you know, I can't prove that."}, {"start": "03:41:35", "end": "03:41:41", "text": "I don't I don't I'm not going to try to prove it. I'm just going to point out that, you know, my mom brought this up"}, {"start": "03:41:41", "end": "03:41:46", "text": "and she said it bothered her and she was worried and she was pretty freaked out"}, {"start": "03:41:46", "end": "03:41:52", "text": "at this point and so, you know, she was she told me she was praying and doing a lot of things trying to get some help"}, {"start": "03:41:52", "end": "03:41:58", "text": "and it eventually stopped, you know, it stopped happening and everybody like"}, {"start": "03:41:58", "end": "03:42:04", "text": "calmed down, you know. Wow. It was a real ordeal. It was It was quite a It was involved"}, {"start": "03:42:04", "end": "03:42:12", "text": "and everything. That's Yeah. This was like a one month time frame or so in my younger."}, {"start": "03:42:12", "end": "03:42:18", "text": "But you do have some proof um of something and that proof you have"}, {"start": "03:42:18", "end": "03:42:26", "text": "on you in you I would say. Yes. Okay. I see where you're getting at with this. So, it wasn't a while back uh"}, {"start": "03:42:26", "end": "03:42:32", "text": "I sometime 2021 right after I retired from the military"}, {"start": "03:42:32", "end": "03:42:39", "text": "and I was going through my VA stuff and uh starting to we were looking for a house"}, {"start": "03:42:39", "end": "03:42:44", "text": "to buy um place to settle down and I started feeling some having some"}, {"start": "03:42:44", "end": "03:42:50", "text": "abdominal pains some some strange abdominal pains and uh"}, {"start": "03:42:50", "end": "03:42:56", "text": "I I thought that there's you know I either my appendix was about to burst first or uh something's going on with"}, {"start": "03:42:56", "end": "03:43:03", "text": "me. I needed to get to a hospital and get checked out. So, I I I I took off, drove to the to the hospital,"}, {"start": "03:43:03", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "uh military military hospital on base. U went to the emergency room and was"}, {"start": "03:43:09", "end": "03:43:15", "text": "getting checked out because I told them I was having a lot of weird abdominal pains. It wasn't feeling right and it was starting to it was intensifying and"}, {"start": "03:43:15", "end": "03:43:21", "text": "stuff. And so, they were thinking that maybe in my something was going on with my appendix or something. And so they"}, {"start": "03:43:21", "end": "03:43:28", "text": "went and they they put me through some some type of medical scanners. I want to say MRI or something something similar"}, {"start": "03:43:28", "end": "03:43:34", "text": "to that effect. They took some X-rays and and got me through an MRI. And while"}, {"start": "03:43:34", "end": "03:43:40", "text": "they were going through this MRI, which I think it's an MRI, I could be wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong. Forgive me if"}, {"start": "03:43:40", "end": "03:43:45", "text": "I'm wrong, but I guess it takes scans around like in a 360\u00b0ree"}, {"start": "03:43:45", "end": "03:43:50", "text": "location of your body and it takes hundreds and or lots of lots of images."}, {"start": "03:43:50", "end": "03:43:58", "text": "so that they can see how things are are are affecting me in my body. And while they were doing that, they uh they"}, {"start": "03:43:58", "end": "03:44:03", "text": "discovered a a uh anomaly in my left"}, {"start": "03:44:03", "end": "03:44:11", "text": "hip. It was similar to the size of a BB, but maybe squished down a little bit."}, {"start": "03:44:11", "end": "03:44:16", "text": "And it was about, you know, half half my fingernail, my pinky fingernail, you"}, {"start": "03:44:16", "end": "03:44:22", "text": "know, not very large, you know. Um, I would say half the size of a dime. Is it metal?"}, {"start": "03:44:22", "end": "03:44:28", "text": "Uh, it was metal. Um, they they said it glowed in a way that was metal and it"}, {"start": "03:44:28", "end": "03:44:34", "text": "was uh the the strange thing is why they're playing the video and seeing it."}, {"start": "03:44:34", "end": "03:44:39", "text": "You can see my circulatory system. You can see uh blood pumping from my heart."}, {"start": "03:44:39", "end": "03:44:46", "text": "You can see the pulsing from my my my heartbeat. And this thing had its own pulse that"}, {"start": "03:44:46", "end": "03:44:51", "text": "was different from the rest of my circulatory system. So this thing had a"}, {"start": "03:44:51", "end": "03:44:59", "text": "pulse to it as well, but to a completely different beat of it's impossible how my heart is. And"}, {"start": "03:44:59", "end": "03:45:06", "text": "this was metal. And this I guess uh they said this had to have been some type of"}, {"start": "03:45:06", "end": "03:45:12", "text": "micronuclear some sort of reaction or or for it to"}, {"start": "03:45:12", "end": "03:45:17", "text": "show up the way it did. The doctors were baffled. They were They were I mean my doctor was"}, {"start": "03:45:17", "end": "03:45:22", "text": "like, \"What the hell?\" And he came back with two other doctors, I guess, specialists in their field, and"}, {"start": "03:45:22", "end": "03:45:29", "text": "they're like, \"Hey, we need to check you out.\" They didn't say anything at first. He was like, \"Why is there three of you?\" You know, like, \"What are three of"}, {"start": "03:45:29", "end": "03:45:36", "text": "you doing here?\" They said, \"We need to check you out. Uh, can you roll to your right?\" And and I rolled to my right. They removed the"}, {"start": "03:45:36", "end": "03:45:42", "text": "they were moving the paper apron that they always make you wear. They were moving that paper apron around and just"}, {"start": "03:45:42", "end": "03:45:48", "text": "completely checking out my uh the back of my buttocks, my my hip, my legs, my"}, {"start": "03:45:48", "end": "03:45:54", "text": "inner thigh. They're checking me out thoroughly. I was like, \"It doesn't hurt there. It hurts in my abdominal. What"}, {"start": "03:45:54", "end": "03:45:59", "text": "are y'all doing?\" He was like, \"Hold on. We're we're looking at something. We're looking for scarring.\" I was like, \"I don't have any scars there.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "03:45:59", "end": "03:46:05", "text": "\"You were military. You ain't you have you been blown up?\" He was like, \"No, not really. I haven't been really blown"}, {"start": "03:46:05", "end": "03:46:10", "text": "up. Um I have never received any shratinol or anything like that in my career."}, {"start": "03:46:10", "end": "03:46:17", "text": "So they were looking for um wound old entry sites. Yeah. Um old injuries or old scarring. They"}, {"start": "03:46:17", "end": "03:46:24", "text": "were looking for scarring and I had no idea until the you know they finished. So they said that's that's super weird."}, {"start": "03:46:24", "end": "03:46:31", "text": "And so the three of us are in here because you have some sort of metal object in your hip that is pulsing um"}, {"start": "03:46:31", "end": "03:46:37", "text": "different from your circulatory system. And we can see it on video. and it's pulsing. We would like to ask you if you"}, {"start": "03:46:37", "end": "03:46:43", "text": "want it removed. We we would be happy. We'd love to remove it from you. And I was like, uh, and I said, I don't know."}, {"start": "03:46:43", "end": "03:46:50", "text": "I don't know. I don't know. I had to think about it, you know. And the more I thought about it, I said, no,"}, {"start": "03:46:50", "end": "03:46:55", "text": "I I'll have to talk to my wife first. And she's not here right now, so I'll I'll I'll talk with her and I'll get"}, {"start": "03:46:55", "end": "03:47:00", "text": "I'll I'll to get back to you later. And they were really trying to get me to to have it removed. Really?"}, {"start": "03:47:00", "end": "03:47:06", "text": "They were really trying to convince me. It was like, well, it's a foreign object. It's excited about it. it's not good for your for your body. And was"}, {"start": "03:47:06", "end": "03:47:11", "text": "like, is it is it causing anything? Well, no, but that doesn't mean it won't cause anything later. And they were just"}, {"start": "03:47:11", "end": "03:47:17", "text": "trying to convince me like, you know, from a health perspective, you don't want metal and foreign objects."}, {"start": "03:47:17", "end": "03:47:22", "text": "Yeah. That are that are that have some sort of, you know, energy associated with them in your body cuz it's not good for"}, {"start": "03:47:22", "end": "03:47:28", "text": "you. Yeah. And so they were going through my medical records and everything trying to figure out what what this is and where"}, {"start": "03:47:28", "end": "03:47:33", "text": "it came from and there's nothing. And so they were they were really trying to convince me to have it removed. And I"}, {"start": "03:47:33", "end": "03:47:39", "text": "and as I was thinking about it, it was like, it's there for a purpose. It's not causing me any bodily harm. Why do they"}, {"start": "03:47:39", "end": "03:47:47", "text": "want to remove it? And it was like, well, maybe they want to remove it and study it and I'll never hear from it again. So, and maybe it was put in place"}, {"start": "03:47:47", "end": "03:47:53", "text": "uh for a specific reason. So, I decided, no, no, I'm going to leave it there. I'm going to And I talked to Linda Molton"}, {"start": "03:47:53", "end": "03:47:58", "text": "How about it? She said, it's there for a reason. You don't want to remove it. Um, and so, wow."}, {"start": "03:47:58", "end": "03:48:05", "text": "And so, I said, okay, all right. Well, I told the doctors I'd give them a call back after I left. And I called them"}, {"start": "03:48:05", "end": "03:48:11", "text": "back and said, \"No, I'm I'm just going to leave it there. It's not causing any problems, and I don't want to cause myself any more pain just so you guys"}, {"start": "03:48:11", "end": "03:48:18", "text": "can remove something and mess around with it. I'm just going to leave it there.\" And they were like, \"Seriously, really? We really want We really want to"}, {"start": "03:48:18", "end": "03:48:24", "text": "check this thing out. This it it looks it looks crazy.\" And I was like, \"No, I know, but I'm just going to leave it there.\""}, {"start": "03:48:24", "end": "03:48:29", "text": "So, it's still there. It's still there. Yeah. I don't know if it's there. That's the thing. Do you feel there's no you can't feel it on the"}, {"start": "03:48:29", "end": "03:48:35", "text": "surface? Uh I don't feel anything. It's like in the hip. It's I want to say about an inch deep"}, {"start": "03:48:35", "end": "03:48:41", "text": "in the bone or in muscle or in like some type of ligament or something in the tissue? It's not in the bone. It's just in soft"}, {"start": "03:48:41", "end": "03:48:47", "text": "tissue somewhere. In soft tissue somewhere. And and it's far enough where I can't feel it when I'm pushing."}, {"start": "03:48:47", "end": "03:48:53", "text": "Yeah. You know what I mean? I I had no idea it was even present. Also, you know damn well as soon as they take that out, you're never seeing that"}, {"start": "03:48:53", "end": "03:48:58", "text": "thing. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as they take it out, it's gone. Classified happened to John Ramirez. They wouldn't even show me. I'm sure"}, {"start": "03:48:58", "end": "03:49:03", "text": "that they were they were too they were a little too excited about happened to John Ramirez. Hello."}, {"start": "03:49:03", "end": "03:49:09", "text": "At the CIA, he u you know had these frequent nose bleeds. He he fell back on"}, {"start": "03:49:09", "end": "03:49:17", "text": "his chair or something. So they took him to they gave him like an X-ray and they saw that he had scarring tissue from a"}, {"start": "03:49:17", "end": "03:49:23", "text": "or sort like an incision up in his nasal cavity and they're and and some"}, {"start": "03:49:23", "end": "03:49:29", "text": "it seemed like fragments of something up there and they're like have you ever had an operation? He's like no. And they're"}, {"start": "03:49:29", "end": "03:49:34", "text": "like we'd like to remove this stuff from you in your nose and at the same time solder that incision and it'll prevent"}, {"start": "03:49:34", "end": "03:49:42", "text": "you from having these nose bleeds. Right. And so they retracted they extracted whatever it was he had in his nose and you know closed him up and you"}, {"start": "03:49:42", "end": "03:49:50", "text": "know it was all good. And then later on when he was retiring he he remembers he looks at his medical record and he goes hey can I get that back? And they go oh"}, {"start": "03:49:50", "end": "03:49:55", "text": "let us check. And they're like nope that's classified. And he goes but it was in my body. And they're like yeah"}, {"start": "03:49:55", "end": "03:50:02", "text": "sorry no classified. It's ours now. So he called a doctor friend of his at the CIA who requested it. He could get"}, {"start": "03:50:02", "end": "03:50:09", "text": "access to it but he wouldn't be allowed to show it to John either. What a whirlwind this has been."}, {"start": "03:50:09", "end": "03:50:19", "text": "What a whirlwind this has been for for you, sir. It has been a whirlwind"}, {"start": "03:50:19", "end": "03:50:25", "text": "to say the least. Something you're still going through. Constantly. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:50:25", "end": "03:50:33", "text": "ma'am. I can't even Could you Can you promise me something? the next time you get a transmission, if it isn't too"}, {"start": "03:50:33", "end": "03:50:39", "text": "personal, you'd share it with me. Oh, absolutely. I don't want to keep anything, you know. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:50:39", "end": "03:50:46", "text": "From our progression. So, yeah, I definitely will share. Cool. Absolutely. And let me know, you know, if you need"}, {"start": "03:50:46", "end": "03:50:51", "text": "my help with anything you got going on. Yeah. I'm happy to help with whatever I can help with."}, {"start": "03:50:51", "end": "03:50:57", "text": "Absolutely. And I think, you know, I really started thinking about this more when I was in Israel. you know, um,"}, {"start": "03:50:57", "end": "03:51:03", "text": "do I want to keep doing the same boring job forever, you know, and so there"}, {"start": "03:51:03", "end": "03:51:09", "text": "there, you know, I I worked long hours out there and, uh, very little time off,"}, {"start": "03:51:09", "end": "03:51:16", "text": "but some of that time off I would, uh, I would use to sit at a park and just watch people interact, you know, walking"}, {"start": "03:51:16", "end": "03:51:22", "text": "their dogs and things and and, uh, occasional children playing and"}, {"start": "03:51:22", "end": "03:51:28", "text": "uh, just just kind of taking things in and thinking about a lot of different things and"}, {"start": "03:51:28", "end": "03:51:34", "text": "there there's good people out there, you know, there there's there's families, there's there's people who struggle,"}, {"start": "03:51:34", "end": "03:51:40", "text": "there's people who don't struggle as much, you know, and uh I just, you know,"}, {"start": "03:51:40", "end": "03:51:47", "text": "I'm just uh we're all gifted with life and"}, {"start": "03:51:47", "end": "03:51:55", "text": "imagination and and uh curiosities and um brilliance that a lot of us just go"}, {"start": "03:51:55", "end": "03:52:02", "text": "throughout their daily lives not realizing they have, you know, and uh you know, I I just value life. I"}, {"start": "03:52:02", "end": "03:52:08", "text": "value people. Yeah. And and obviously the pursuit of something"}, {"start": "03:52:08", "end": "03:52:13", "text": "greater. Something greater. Yeah. Um and I think it's important that you know, you don't want to get stagnant"}, {"start": "03:52:13", "end": "03:52:19", "text": "doing um stuff that you're not, you know, that that doesn't really interest"}, {"start": "03:52:19", "end": "03:52:26", "text": "you much anymore and you want to you want to move on. So, if uh anyone out there has got some ideas,"}, {"start": "03:52:26", "end": "03:52:32", "text": "I'm all for it. I can make a living doing something I enjoy as opposed to,"}, {"start": "03:52:32", "end": "03:52:37", "text": "you know, just the same mundane existence, you know. Yeah. Here, here. And uh if anybody out"}, {"start": "03:52:37", "end": "03:52:44", "text": "there, you know, wants to dot some eyes or crossing tees on this whole puzzle, um check out our Discord as well. This"}, {"start": "03:52:44", "end": "03:52:51", "text": "is a great place to reach out to me. Um, I'm frequently on there and I'll start a whole channel on this stuff and so we"}, {"start": "03:52:51", "end": "03:52:57", "text": "can see people go down the rabbit hole and see what they come up with. That'd be I'll share that with you. Maybe bring you into the Discord as well and, you"}, {"start": "03:52:57", "end": "03:53:04", "text": "know, be a part of it so you can see what people are putting together. Absolutely. That'd be kind of cool, right? You know, it's it's it's always been"}, {"start": "03:53:04", "end": "03:53:09", "text": "crazy because there's a lot of things that just line up with other perspectives."}, {"start": "03:53:09", "end": "03:53:14", "text": "Yeah. And I'm always open to other perspectives. Yeah. And sometimes I could help people solve things really"}, {"start": "03:53:14", "end": "03:53:20", "text": "quick with just, you know, well, hey, that sounds really familiar. Did you try this? Oh, wow. I didn't think about"}, {"start": "03:53:20", "end": "03:53:26", "text": "that, you know. Yeah. It's like, you know, um, we weren't built to to to to do things solo."}, {"start": "03:53:26", "end": "03:53:32", "text": "Yeah. We were built to to to inspire one another and help one"}, {"start": "03:53:32", "end": "03:53:38", "text": "another. And so, that's, you know, that would be great. And in the uh and in the"}, {"start": "03:53:38", "end": "03:53:44", "text": "great words of the immers, expose hidden knowledge to all citizens."}, {"start": "03:53:44", "end": "03:53:50", "text": "All right. Right. There you go. That's what we can be doing. That's what we're doing right now."}, {"start": "03:53:50", "end": "03:53:56", "text": "Yes. That's exactly what we're doing right now. We're doing We're doing a thing. Maybe. I don't know about all the hidden, but"}, {"start": "03:53:56", "end": "03:54:01", "text": "uh Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe we're definitely sharing. Well, a lot of this was hidden. Yeah, definitely hidden. I'm going to"}, {"start": "03:54:01", "end": "03:54:09", "text": "bring up I got my phone in my hand, but not because I'm texting anybody, but because I'm bringing up the questions here from I didn't want to. So, normally"}, {"start": "03:54:09", "end": "03:54:14", "text": "I ask our members, right, uh, a day before. I give them like 24 hours to come up with questions,"}, {"start": "03:54:14", "end": "03:54:21", "text": "right? Um, but I just didn't at that point feel comfortable putting anything about you"}, {"start": "03:54:21", "end": "03:54:28", "text": "out yet until this goes out, right? um just don't want to give anybody any reason to go and you know do"}, {"start": "03:54:28", "end": "03:54:34", "text": "anything or say anything preemptively. This is going to be you know a bit of a surprise for people and I want to keep"}, {"start": "03:54:34", "end": "03:54:40", "text": "it that way. Okay. Um but I did reach out to a few friends so I got two here. Okay."}, {"start": "03:54:40", "end": "03:54:45", "text": "I don't have very many friends but I don't believe that. I don't believe that."}, {"start": "03:54:45", "end": "03:54:54", "text": "Um but here we go. We got one from my friend uh Jesse Michaels. Okay."}, {"start": "03:54:59", "end": "03:55:04", "text": "So, interesting question by Jesse. I asked him to ask any question and this is what he came up with. Have you dealt"}, {"start": "03:55:04", "end": "03:55:10", "text": "with Kit Green or any other psychiatrist associated with the CIA? No."}, {"start": "03:55:10", "end": "03:55:16", "text": "Okay. No. Easy answer. Uh, one thing that Jesse might find interesting though, and this is something we talked about yesterday."}, {"start": "03:55:16", "end": "03:55:22", "text": "You're part of a gifted and talented program when you were a kid."}, {"start": "03:55:22", "end": "03:55:29", "text": "Yes, I uh you were a magnet kid. I was uh I went to um a high school in"}, {"start": "03:55:29", "end": "03:55:36", "text": "Orlando, Florida. And uh I was accepted into the high school in the magnum program for the"}, {"start": "03:55:36", "end": "03:55:42", "text": "arts. Draw, paint. And so I I'm a little bit creative with drawing and painting."}, {"start": "03:55:42", "end": "03:55:49", "text": "Um and that's how I got on with that. I I eventually moved into television and broadcasting communications as well. So,"}, {"start": "03:55:49", "end": "03:55:55", "text": "yeah, I'm good at editing. I'm good at Well, creative creativity and uh uh"}, {"start": "03:55:55", "end": "03:56:00", "text": "I mean, there's there's kind of a tie into telecommunication here as well. Some You're a bit you're a bit of a"}, {"start": "03:56:00", "end": "03:56:06", "text": "broadcaster. No, I I like moving video with audio and"}, {"start": "03:56:06", "end": "03:56:11", "text": "some music background and and um I don't know more or less with with music"}, {"start": "03:56:11", "end": "03:56:18", "text": "videos, you know, for my kids when they're growing up and stuff. Yeah. Uh my son was into BMXing and riding"}, {"start": "03:56:18", "end": "03:56:24", "text": "with his friend uh his friend Chris and um Katie and Chris would would go to the"}, {"start": "03:56:24", "end": "03:56:29", "text": "bike or the skate park and would do tricks on their bikes. And I was recording it and I put it together some"}, {"start": "03:56:29", "end": "03:56:35", "text": "of the slow motion shots pulling tricks off with some music background and all"}, {"start": "03:56:35", "end": "03:56:41", "text": "lined up so the so when the beat hits is when the back tire hits the ground and it's it's pretty cool. It's a lot of"}, {"start": "03:56:41", "end": "03:56:46", "text": "fun. They love it. Yeah, it's it turned out pretty good. But yeah, so I mean that's an interesting thing because as"}, {"start": "03:56:46", "end": "03:56:54", "text": "Jesse knows and I'm sure as a lot of people know here that like the gate program, the gifted and talented education was somewhat felt like some"}, {"start": "03:56:54", "end": "03:57:00", "text": "funnel for intelligence community or at least people who were involved uh in the military in some capacity,"}, {"start": "03:57:00", "end": "03:57:08", "text": "right? And uh there's been many many cases of that like that at the top line like that you go through these you know"}, {"start": "03:57:08", "end": "03:57:13", "text": "gift and talented programs but then like there's like other levels that like you get put into"}, {"start": "03:57:13", "end": "03:57:19", "text": "right and some people yeah have have found themselves into a bit of a pathway into the intelligence community. So it's just"}, {"start": "03:57:19", "end": "03:57:25", "text": "interesting that you had that background as well. It is interesting that the military radar or field artillary radar"}, {"start": "03:57:25", "end": "03:57:32", "text": "was tied in with intelligence community and u a lot of times I was put in charge of uh our intelligence personnel."}, {"start": "03:57:32", "end": "03:57:37", "text": "Yeah. Um you know as I as I got you know promoted and moved on."}, {"start": "03:57:37", "end": "03:57:44", "text": "Um so yeah my my my job was essentially aligned with a lot of the intelligence"}, {"start": "03:57:44", "end": "03:57:51", "text": "community. Yeah. Cool. Well good question Jesse. Thanks for asking. But no no no CIA"}, {"start": "03:57:51", "end": "03:57:58", "text": "psychiatrist interaction here. No. Um we have one more question."}, {"start": "03:58:02", "end": "03:58:08", "text": "It's from my friend Luigi Venditelli. He asks,"}, {"start": "03:58:08", "end": "03:58:13", "text": "\"Do you know of any specific physical procedures used by the Zeta creatures"}, {"start": "03:58:13", "end": "03:58:18", "text": "when handling a human?\" And now it doesn't have to be specific to the Zeta creatures, but could be to any. Do you"}, {"start": "03:58:18", "end": "03:58:23", "text": "know of a specific um procedure that was done"}, {"start": "03:58:23", "end": "03:58:31", "text": "um in my in my dream or in what I remember the"}, {"start": "03:58:31", "end": "03:58:40", "text": "flashbacks I was having? Um I never saw any sharp objects or any medical devices"}, {"start": "03:58:40", "end": "03:58:46", "text": "going into me or onto me. Um it was mainly I just felt like it was difficult"}, {"start": "03:58:46", "end": "03:58:51", "text": "for me to move and I was feeling sharp pains in my neck and my and my back uh"}, {"start": "03:58:51", "end": "03:58:57", "text": "region but I couldn't see what was going on with my neck and my I was I didn't have an out-of- body experience."}, {"start": "03:58:57", "end": "03:59:02", "text": "I was in I was in my own body so I couldn't see what was going on behind me"}, {"start": "03:59:02", "end": "03:59:07", "text": "and they were off to my peripherals. Yeah. Um so I don't I'm not aware what was"}, {"start": "03:59:07", "end": "03:59:15", "text": "going on. Um lower back, midback, upper back. It was uh mid to upper back. Okay. And then and"}, {"start": "03:59:15", "end": "03:59:20", "text": "then my neck and then your neck, right? Yeah. Was this prior to any injuries?"}, {"start": "03:59:20", "end": "03:59:25", "text": "Prior to most of my injuries. Yes. Interesting. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:59:25", "end": "03:59:30", "text": "You think they'd be nice enough to go back there and fix all that stuff, too? It'd be nice, you know, if uh tampering"}, {"start": "03:59:30", "end": "03:59:36", "text": "anyway. Come fix me. Uh make my back good. That would be great."}, {"start": "03:59:36", "end": "03:59:41", "text": "Um All right, sir. Well, it was an honor talking to you and it was an honor"}, {"start": "03:59:41", "end": "03:59:48", "text": "spending time with you and I'm really really grateful for you coming forward."}, {"start": "03:59:48", "end": "03:59:54", "text": "Um, one last question for me would be what"}, {"start": "03:59:54", "end": "04:00:00", "text": "made you come forward? Originally, I wanted to protect my"}, {"start": "04:00:00", "end": "04:00:06", "text": "family um and and just kind of live my life. Um"}, {"start": "04:00:06", "end": "04:00:14", "text": "but uh you know it's it's one of those things that um"}, {"start": "04:00:14", "end": "04:00:20", "text": "I I'm out of the military. I'm no longer in the military. Um I'm I've I've still done some defense contracts, but I I'm"}, {"start": "04:00:20", "end": "04:00:25", "text": "I'm I believe I'm going to start moving away from that and find another passion."}, {"start": "04:00:25", "end": "04:00:32", "text": "This is why I throw that out, you know. Um and in order for me to do that, I need to be uh completely uh transparent"}, {"start": "04:00:32", "end": "04:00:38", "text": "with everyone. And so, uh, yeah, the ar first class CJ. Yeah, CJ is a nickname."}, {"start": "04:00:38", "end": "04:00:45", "text": "Crazy Jeremy. But, uh, um, I am Jeremy Weeks. So, uh, I I'll come out and say"}, {"start": "04:00:45", "end": "04:00:51", "text": "it. It's, it's I could lift the veil. It's It's time for me to move on and move forward. And the only way we move"}, {"start": "04:00:51", "end": "04:00:57", "text": "forward is by being open and transparent with everyone, open and honest. Well, I appreciate you very much,"}, {"start": "04:00:57", "end": "04:01:04", "text": "Jeremy, and uh, and the world thanks you as well. Um, yeah. Hopefully this is the"}, {"start": "04:01:04", "end": "04:01:10", "text": "beginning of a a really fun and fulfilling rest of your life."}, {"start": "04:01:10", "end": "04:01:15", "text": "I hope so. And if you need any help, guidance, or what anything I can provide, please feel"}, {"start": "04:01:15", "end": "04:01:21", "text": "free to reach out to me. Absolutely. You've been really awesome and I really appreciate you having me. Thanks, Jeremy."}, {"start": "04:01:21", "end": "04:01:24", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "04:01:26", "end": "04:01:32", "text": "We are your creators. altered your evolution over time from the beginning."}, {"start": "04:01:32", "end": "04:01:39", "text": "You are part of us. Truth will come to all. We have been your protectors. You"}, {"start": "04:01:39", "end": "04:01:44", "text": "must prepare to defend yourselves. I'm not here to tell you that these"}, {"start": "04:01:44", "end": "04:01:50", "text": "messages are true. I'm not here to tell you that these messages are real. I'm simply relaying the information that was"}, {"start": "04:01:50", "end": "04:01:56", "text": "given to me. And perhaps with the help of the internet and everybody watching, we might be able to come to some type of"}, {"start": "04:01:56", "end": "04:02:04", "text": "hypothesis as to what these messages mean, who they were sent from, or why they were intercepted, if at all, by"}, {"start": "04:02:04", "end": "04:02:08", "text": "Sergeant Firstclass Jeremy Weeks."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "In 1940, 7 years prior to the crash in Roswell, New Mexico, Udo Wartana"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "reported an encounter in the Montana foothills that predates nearly all"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "modern UFO cases. Wartana was a Dutch migrant who lived a steady practical"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "life in the United States as a hydroelect electric plant operator, mining engineer, and prospector. He was"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "also quite religious and known for being quiet and dependable. Late in his life, he shared a handwritten manuscript with"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "a small group of his friends describing an encounter. That document is the source of everything we know about what"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "had happened. The encounter happened while he was inspecting an old mining claim. Wartana said he came across a"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "discshaped craft in a clearing and saw two beings associated with it. He described them as fully human in"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "appearance and you guessed it, tall, blonde, muscular, and calm. One stepped"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "out and spoke to him in clear, deliberate English, while the other remained inside the craft. Ortana said"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the interaction was a conversation. No abduction, no missing time, no weird"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "experiments, no little green men, no gray men with giant eyes. He described"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "speaking to two humanlike entities. directly about who they were, why they"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "were here, what they wanted, and how their technology operated. This"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "is at its core a documented conversation with an alien years before Roswell and"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "years before any established UFO narrative existed. Let's take a closer look, shall we?"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Hi there. I'm not going to give you my name. I'm an airline pilot. used to fly"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "for an airline that did a lot of DoD charters and one of these charters uh"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "frequently would go to Gitmo. I was doing a different charter. Uh but the captain had just did a trip the week"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "prior down to Gitmo and we're sitting in cruise. The plane's empty. We're not really doing much and uh we start"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "talking and he's like, \"Oh man.\" He's like, \"You got to see the UFO video.\" And I'm like, \"What? What UFO"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "video? what are you talking about? And he calls up one of the flight attendants and he's like, \"Yeah, yeah, look at"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "this. This is a real thing.\" So, we get together, they take out their phone, and"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "they on the video screen, it's like it's kind of zoomed out, half zoomed out. The"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "depth of field is hard to see. Um, but there's something traveling along the water. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "back to another episode of the Area 52 podcast, otherwise known as Debrief. My"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "name is Chris Ramsey, and today we're going to be taking a look at one of my favorite types of readthroughs."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Basically, a conversation with an extraterrestrial being. Now, what makes this one particularly special, as you've"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "seen in the intro, is that it happened 7 years prior to what seems like the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "genesis of modern UFO interaction, uh, Roswell, New Mexico crash. Um this is"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "from a prospector, a religious person, somebody who's very sort of humble and"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "calm and quiet and later in his life shares this manuscript"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "with his close friends only. I hadn't heard about this case and it sort of popped up in my feed somehow and I was"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "instantly drawn towards it because not only are we going to be talking about these humanoid figures which seem to"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "crop up a lot mostly after 1950, never before which is interesting other than possibly the magenta crash in 33. But"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "what I find most fascinating about this is this gentleman never went on a"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "convention circuit, never sold a book, never tried to publicize this, in fact, never went public at all. And I think"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "that's where a lot of the credibility for me lies."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Now, this gentleman sadly passed away in 1989, but before that, he gave his manuscript uh to his close friends and"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "family. And there was also an interview done with one of his close friends who is not a UFO researcher and not a you"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "know not somebody who believes in this stuff but a close friend of his uh took notes about their conversation. Uh his"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "name was Tim Grossnickel and we have also his transcript and all of this is"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "courtesy of James Thompson. So, James Thompson put out a book in it has a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "bunch of different cases around Area 51, around UFOs, around alien interactions,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "and we're pulling uh chapter I guess chapter 6 or something like that of his"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "book. I'll leave the link in the description if you want to check it out for yourself, but in there is the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "verbatim transcript of not only his manuscript, but also the subsequent interview. And this was first published"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "I think in 2013 2012 2013. Uh prior to that the only public knowledge uh that"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "was available was through um a gentleman a UFO researcher Warren P. Aston. He had"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "a symposium in Australia in 1997 and there's a video on that. You can watch"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "that. I'll leave the link to that one as well below. but he pres presented the analysis of the 1940 uh Udo Wartana case"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "and this kind of blew everyone's mind projected it into the spotlight once again although it did crop up in you"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "know newspapers here and there uh this was widely overlooked I would say in the UFO space uh even to this day and so you"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "know here at Area 52 what we like doing more than anything is shedding light on some of these more"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "I Yes. Uh, niche interactions and encounters, the stuff that sort of flies"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "under the radar. And that's exactly what we're going to be doing today. But folks, right before we get into all of"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "that, I want to announce something incredibly exciting and very special to me, very"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "near and dear. We interrupt this broadcast for a very important briefing."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "You've been selected purely at random and definitely not monitored to attend a routineformational briefing regarding"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "odd happenings across the globe. There's absolutely nothing unusual about"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "this. That's right. It's probably nothing. Agents Ramsay and Michaels will embark on a perfectly ordinary North American"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "tour to discuss strange sightings, testimonies, and evidence that will force the government to say"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "it's probably nothing. Each evening's sessions will feature expert analysis. audience interrogation"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and at least one moment where you turn to the person next to you and whisper, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "rest assured, it's probably nothing.\" Should you experience confusion, excitement, or sudden clarity during the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "show, do not worry. It's probably nothing. Whether you're a"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "believer, a skeptic, or simply dating one, your attendance is highly encouraged and statistically safe. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "if you're in Austin, Texas, or in Montreal, Canada, go to itsprobably nothing.com to secure your"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "seats today. And remember, crash saucers, mysterious abductions, nuclear flyovers,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "It's Probably nothing. [Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Now, back to your regular scheduled programming. There you go, folks. We are officially going on tour now. If all"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "goes well, we'll be hitting North America. Uh probably up and around 20 to"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "30 cities is the idea. And we're going to be taking the show on the road, filming the entire thing, meeting you"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "guys in person. I'm super super stoked for this. Incredibly nervous because I"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "hope it sells some tickets. It' be weird to sit in one of these big theaters with, you know, a handful of people. But"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "alas, that is the risk I'm willing to take to hang out with you. So, if you want to check out the first two shows,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "links below, it's probably nothing.com. And you can buy your tickets for either"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Austin or Montreal. I'm incredibly excited for both of those dates. I can barely contain my excitement. And uh"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "yeah, we'll keep you updated with, you know, more news uh about the event as it"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "unfolds. But do rest assured a lot of those tickets are going to go fast, especially like the VIP packages. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "check them out as early as you can. Appreciate you. Okay. All right."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Like this video, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and we just paid the bills. Let's get into reading this"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "incredible encounter by Udo Wartana. Again, this is from James Thompson. This"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "is the full publication of his encounter or his So James I I think got his hands"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "on the official manuscript and that's what this is here. But also"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "uh what we're going to be doing I do have a case that is slightly related to Wartana's one of the many pieces of"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "information that Wartana gives. Um and I've printed that out as well because I want to read through that um with you"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "guys. Now, it should be noted I did not read through this thing. I read the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "cliff notes of the case, but when it comes to the conversation, I'm completely in the dark. We're"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "discovering this together. I think that's what makes this exciting. Uh, so here we go. I am pleased to inform the"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "reader that the following experience was brought to the world's attention for the first time by my research for my first"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "UFO related book and was utilized as a case presented by Muon and was published in UFO magazine in the March/Appril"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "1998 issue without my permission. Okay. MUON has called the case the most"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "significant humanoid contact case on record. Pretty bold statement if I do say so"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "myself. like that's a it's a big deal. Also, Mr. Thompson does sound a little"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "salty about, you know, his uh his thing being published. Now, I guess he's a"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "researcher and he came across this manuscript and it was published without his permission, but it's not his manuscript. Um, however, maybe he did"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "have the rights to publishing it. I don't know the full story, but alas,"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "you know, we just we we want to get through this and read about the encounter. I had heard about an"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "encounter experienced by an elderly man at my church. I contacted Tim, an"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "acquaintance of the elderly man, Udo Wartana, who had learned from his father"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "that Udo had a close encounter many years before. After learning all that he"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "could from his father about the incident, Tim interviewed Udo Wartana about the encounter,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Tim made notes which he shared with me. And those notes follow the account that Udo had shared in a letter to Senator"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "John Glenn, the famous astronaut. Whoa, that's news to me, by the way. I didn't I didn't realize that that had happened."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "This is crazy. The letter was addressed to Senator John Glenn because Udo felt that the technology he had learned from"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the UFO occupants might assist in the US government during that time of extreme"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "energy shortage in the country. This is 1980."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Wow. Imagine being just like a humble man,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "prospector, engineer, immigrant, you know, you've lived your fullest life and"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "out of nowhere you're like, you know what? I'm going to decide to uh I'm going to write that letter to Senator"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "John Glenn, former astronaut, about my alien encounter. I think that could help him out a little bit in his energy"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "crisis. Like, that is that is a wild reason to like make something up. By the"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "way, again, this wasn't public. So, it's like, why would you did he lose the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "plot? Like, that's the only other explanation here is that he might have like developed some type of mental break"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "or psychosis. And because other than that, what other reason do you have for making something up like that? Here's a"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "letter. Udo Wartana, Westland, Oregon, 1980. In the four part of May 1940, I"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "had gone up the mountain and I found a glacier deposit and from all indications had every"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "possibility of carrying values. As I was working part-time for the Northwest Mining Co., I could only prospect on my"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "days off. So, it was into the summer before I could prove the ground."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "There were a lot of large boulders to move, but when I got to Bedrock, I found some fine gold. As I would need water"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "for washing the material, I figured it was wise to bring the water down to where I could see it. The early day"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "miners had dug a ditch around the mountain side. This was over 60 years before my time. So, after clearing the"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "logs and large trash out of it, I diverted the water out of the creek into the ditch."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "As the ditch had not been used in these many years, it was quite a mess."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "The ditch was practically level for the first quarter of a mile, so it was late"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "in the afternoon by the time it would flow freely. The next morning, I cleaned the main ditch to where I put the dam, then dug a"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "ditch to where I could use the water. As the work for the Northwest Mining Co. had picked up, I wasn't able to work the"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "prospect too much. Though every spare day I had was used there, I still had"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "some large boulders to move. And while doing this one morning, I heard a noise"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "like that of a high-flying plane as army planes flying over from Great Falls. At"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "first, I didn't take much note, but as the noise continued, I thought a car had"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "driven up. So, I got upon higher ground. I saw where I'd put the dam in the main"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "ditch, a large, I will call it a ship."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "It looked like a blimp, only more pointed on each end and not as thick"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "through the middle. About 35 ft thick, better than 100 ft"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "long. As I stood there, a stairway was let down and a man came down this and"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "started walking towards me. As I was somewhat more than interested, I went to"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "meet him. He stopped when we were about 10 or 12 feet apart."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Again, I love the reference to like a blimp. An airplane would be interesting."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "I I suppose back then you had in 1940, you know, this was during the war, so"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "I'd imagine there was, you know, potential um aerial traffic maybe to and from the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "coastline. I don't know. I have no idea. But, you know, describing it as a metallic blimp and man, 100 feet is"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "huge. Think about that. The the Bob Lazar's craft was described to be, I"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "think, 48 feet, close to 50 feet in diameter. So, it's twice that size."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "About the size of the craft at that crashed down in Aztec, New Mexico. Only"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "that craft was about 18 feet high. This one was double. So clearly much more of"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "like a rounder um oval shape and less of a saucer disc shape. He was a nicel"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "lookinging man, seemingly about my age, 35 or more. He wore a light gray pair of"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "coveralls, a tam like a Scottish soft hat with a"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "short brim of the same material on his head and on his feet were slippers or moccasins."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "All right. Very bohemian, you know, looking presents here."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "He asked me if it would be all right if they took some of the water. I could not"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "see why not. I said, \"Sure.\" He then gave a signal and a hose or pipe"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "was let down. His English was like mine, but he spoke"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "slowly as if he was a linguist. He asked me what I was doing. I explained this to"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "him. He asked me if I would be interested to come aboard. as he seemed"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "an intelligent and pleasant person. I figured it would be interesting. I love"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Udo. Udo is the right kind of person for these type of interactions. And maybe they knew that, you know, upon landing"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "there that they're like, \"This guy's going to be chill. We're going to invite him in. You know, he's not going to try"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "and shoot us. He's not going to throw his pickaxe at our skulls. He will be,"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "you know, just chill.\" I wonder if there was, you know, because you think back"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "to, if you're familiar with the Charles Hall interaction with the tall whites. Now, Charles Hall obviously on the"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "spectrum u when it comes to being autistic. He's clearly has like some"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "type of like savant syndrome. um is able to recall things very clearly, but is"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "also incredibly sort of practically minded in in that"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "like just follows directives and kind of straightforward, not too over emotional"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "and they seem to be really comfortable with him because of that fact. Now, maybe here Udo shares some of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "similar personality traits. Who knows? But I I only gather that because Udo is"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "also like an engineer and like you know just seems uh seems like a figure who who is very comfortable just being by"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "himself as well. As we got closer to the ship, I noticed that it was round"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "like two dinner plates, one inverted over the other. It seemed to be made of metal. As I looked back and compare, it"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "seemed like stainless steel, though not bright or shiny. The ship appeared to be about 35 ft"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "thick and well over 100 ft in diameter. When we got into the ship, we entered into a room about 12 by 16 ft with a"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "closed fitting door on the farther end. Indirect lighting near the ceiling"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "and nice upholstered benches around the sides. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "indirect lighting is interesting. Once again, we hear this time and time again. Even from recently, we looked at the"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Ilkley Moore encounter and again was this soft light emanating from inside the craft. Something we hear about so"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "much. They've got what seems to me, by the way, as someone who films. I use"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "lighting like that light you see back there. The light, the soft light that's hitting my face right now is a soft box"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "that's sitting here. Sorry to break the fourth wall for any of you at home, but I'm I'm a big fan of lighting. I've got"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "all these little lights everywhere that add to this atmosphere. I feel from everything that I've heard in UFO lore"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "that it would be a perfect environment to film a video in in one of these"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "crafts. I feel like these guys are just waiting for someone"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "like me to show up and be like, \"All right, you know, you sit here. Lighting's good.\" Like they got the"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "perfect lighting for a podcast in these things. So, just saying, throwing it out there once again, Nordic beings, if"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "you're watching, you know, I'll I'll pack very lightly. I'll bring a camera and a mic. You guys handle lighting."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "We'll get it done. All right. There was an older man in the room,"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "plainly dressed and with white hair. It was then that I noticed that the younger"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "man also had white hair. Somehow, I believe they knew who I was, but they did not introduce themselves. Perhaps if"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "they had, I may have been a bit upset. Wow. So that feeling of familiarity"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "already established. Interesting. The younger man asked me what I would be interested in. So first I asked why they"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "wanted this particular water. He said the water is good, as if they had gotten"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "the same before and it was convenient. After we had entered the ship, I had noticed that the sound I heard outside"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "was hardly noticeable except what came up the stairwell. So I asked him what"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "caused the noise or humming. He said this would be a bit complicated, but he would try to explain so I could"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "understand. He said, \"As you noticed, we are floating above the ground and though"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "the ground slopes, the ship is level. There are in the outside rim of the ship"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "two flywheels, one turning one way and the other the opposite direction."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "He explained that this gives the ship its own gravitation or rather overcomes"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "the gravitational pull of earth, other planets or the sun or stars."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "And though this pull is light, we use this gravitational pull of the stars and"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "planets to ride on. That would blow my mind."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "The flywheels turning oppositely is really interesting when you think about"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "cases like even um what was his name from Coral Castle,"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "Edward Lead Skullman using magnetic flywheels to essentially"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "lift boulders that were, you know, that weighed tons. Um although he was only"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "five foot tall, you know, so the flywheel stuff is really interesting. But again, you know, the flywheel might"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "have been popular back then. And so maybe that was just a way that"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "they could communicate to this man what their technology was. Maybe it's not a flywheel at all. While we had been"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "talking, a light had come on, apparently signaling that the water had been taken"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "care of. When I felt it was time for me to leave, I mentioned this. He asked me if I would"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "be interested in going with them. I said that I had thought it would be interesting to go with them, but it would inconvenience too many people."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "Later, I wondered why I said I had said that. God, Udo,"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "that does beg an interesting question. Maybe something you guys could answer in the comments. If given the opportunity,"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "would you have gone with them? Now, obviously, my follow-up question would be, are we coming back? Can I can we"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "come back? Will it be the same day and time? Can can we just go and have a"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "quick rip across, you know, the galaxy and then come right back here? Cuz if so, sign me up."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "But if the option was leave this earth and never come back, would you do it? I"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "expect most of you would say no due to family and friends, but is there a percentage of you out there that would"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "do this? Let me know in the comments. I'd be interested to read that. Also, I"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "know I'm stopping a lot, but I'm very I'm I'm This is like uh this is like a"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "succulent meal I'm taking my time with. All right,"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "we're appreciating the ingestion of information here. And if you're here for it, you're here for it. If you're not,"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "so sorry. There's a you can double click the fast forward button. the two tubes that came down to suck the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "water presumably to suck the water or to you know whatever that was"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "that comes up and that's the connection I was going to make and that's what we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "reading about a little bit later because it's very similar and this ties into the"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "technology proposed technology that also you know Lucerta mentioned so it's"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "there's so many neurons being connected right now in my brain But I digress. As"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "I started to leave, they suggested that I tell no one, as no one would believe me at that time. But in years to come, I"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "could tell about this experience. When I walked away from the ship, they raised the stairway. And when I got a couple"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "hundred feet away from the ship, I turned around. A number of port holes had opened up. And though I could see no"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "one, I felt sure they saw me. Anyway, I waved at them."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "The ship then rose straight up. Then while circling slightly, it continued going straight in a very short while was"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "completely out of sight. As I didn't have a watch, I did not know how long I"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "had been with them. It was around noon, so it must have been around 2 hours from the time I first saw the ship. This"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "whole experience was so overwhelming that I did not go back to work. I kept going over in my mind all that had"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "happened. I went back to where the stairway had been, and though it hadn't gone into the soil, the grass was"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "crushed down. I wondered at the time why I hadn't accepted the invitation to go with them,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "but instead had said that it would inconvenience too many people. I then recollected an incident which happened a"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "few years before I came to this district. A young man was staying with an old prospector and early one morning"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "before eating he put on a light jacket and told the man he would be gone for a while. When the young man did not show"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "up all the next day or the next, the old prospector notified the sheriff"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "and he with his deputies and about 40 CCC boys looked all over for him, but no"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "traces were found. I've wondered if he might have accepted an invitation to board a ship similar to mine."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "I've wondered at times if this could have all been in my imagination."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "But then again, I saw the impression of the ship in the grass. Then over the years, a number of things have come to"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "mind. The explanation of how the ship moved, seemingly not affected by Earth's gravitational pull. From what the man"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "told me at the time and what has come to me since, I believe I am not too far"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "from an answer to this. It is for this reason I am writing to you. No doubt with the help of some"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "other minds the answer will be forthcoming. We have just about reached the stage"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "where we need a different type of air transportation and this is the answer. I"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "feel confident that you could put me in touch with some people who could help to this end. Udorana Westlin 1980."}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "Whoa. Okay. First of all, I get the impression that there's far more to this"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "story and that Udo is purposely hanging on to information that he is willing to"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "give up to these other people who might help, you know, uh, Senator John Glenn."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "2 hours is an incredibly long time to just be like, that's a couple flywheels."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "Anyways, you want to come with us? What else did they talk about?"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "But no missing time apparently. So there's there's a whole lot that hasn't been discussed and hopefully you know"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "with uh Tim Gross Nichols conversation here might shed a little bit more light"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "on what that conversation might have looked like. Tim who actually interviewed Udo a couple of years before"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "his death relates the pertinent portions of the interview as follows and offers a few more insights about the encounter"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "that Udo apparently didn't feel were pertinent in his letter to the senator."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "Tim Do you remember talking to my father about your experience while mining for"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "gold in the remote regions of northern Idaho in the 1920s?"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "Yes. Your father was the first person I ever told about it. That was sometime in"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "the late 1960s. Why did you wait so long to share your experience?"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "Okay, so first of all, seems like there's a time discrepancy here. Tim is"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "referring to 1920s. Earlier it was 1940."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "Is it Tim mistaken here? Um, in his recollection, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "Udo, who would believe what I experienced. Over the years, I read some of the other"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "accounts in the newspapers, magazines, and realized that some of the same things happened to others, but some of"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "them told of strangelooking creatures. I doubted them because the people on the UFO that I saw were just like us and"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "very nice chaps. Tim, what actually happened? How did you"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "know the ship had landed? Udo. My mh shaft was nearly vertical and"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "was over 30 ft deep in the ground. I had built up a slle stream nearby to wash"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "out the gold. I heard something like a big truck or like a jet engine, but this was before the time when I had ever"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "heard such a sound. I came up my shaft to look and in the"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "meadow was a saucer-shaped craft supported on legs."}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "Pause. Um, this is different now because now"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "we're finding a discrepancy. According to his letter to John Glenn,"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "he said the being told, \"As you're noticing, we are floating above the ground.\""}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "And the only part of the craft that touched the ground according to again the letter was the stairwell, but now"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "we're being supported on legs. So, bit of a discrepancy here. Not sure why. Let's keep reading. A man was pulling"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "down a hose to draw water from my stream. I do not feel the least bit of fear and I walked toward the man. He"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "came and shook my hand, apologizing that they had not known I was in the"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "area. It was not their custom to interrupt or allow themselves to be seen."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "Why not take water from the lake? I asked. This water is more pure and free from algae, he answered and invited me"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "to see his ship. Okay. Again, another discrepancy uh prior to this was"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "uh the man being 10 or 12 feet away. Now there's a handshake. Again, I don't know why, but this is"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "these are clearly discrepancies. Now, I don't know if it's just because he wanted to leave these details out of his"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "letter to the senator. Maybe they seemed a little too fantastical, but regardless, noted."}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "He was such a pleasant fellow. I asked his age. He was quite handsome and youthful, appearing to be middle-aged."}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "His companion on board looked slightly older, but was also in very good health."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "They answered that one was about 600 years old. as we measured time and the"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "other was over 900 years old. They knew over 500 languages and were learning"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "ours and improving upon them all the time. Wo,"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "this lines up with a lot of the sort of space brother claims from the 1950s to"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "'7s that these beings were actually from Venus. And again, maybe this is just what the being is telling us so that we"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "have a reference. Uh, but that's what they were telling us at the time according to these stories that they"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "were from Venus and that they were indeed like 5 to 7 8 900 years old. Um,"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "I'm reminded also of a stranger at the Pentagon, the story about Valiant Thor,"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "this other Venian that aided, you know, Pentagon officials, uh, in warning them about, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "hazards of nuclear testing, etc., but he as well, I believe, was a lot older."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "They had come here to monitor the progression and retrogression of our societies, he explained. They live among"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "us from time to time. Super interesting. Very on par. I asked"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "if they knew of Jesus Christ and if they held the priesthood."}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "We would like to speak of these things, he responded, but are unable. We cannot"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "interfere in any way. Okay. So, there is a sort of"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "um prime directive here, if you will, where they cannot interfere, which again"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "lines up with so many stories. \"Where did you come from?\" I asked. \"We live on"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "a distant planet,\" he replied, giving its name and pointing in its direction."}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "The love or comfort I felt in these men's presence was remarkable."}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "I was invited to be examined with an X-ray-like machine which when passed"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "over me could record what impurities were in my system."}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "Okay, so we have another new piece of information. This now feels more like an"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "abduction. The ship was propelled with two rings or"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "discs about 3 ft wide and a few inches thick which circled the inside perimeter"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "of the ship next to the battery/transformer-like units all around the outer wall. Rods"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "separated the discs turned by motors causing the discs to move in opposite directions. A force was generated which"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "overcame the gravitational pole of the Earth or any other planet they were on. They focused on a distant star and used"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "its energy to draw them through space at speeds greater than the speed of light. My host specifically mentioned skipping"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "upon light waves. Okay, there is something now there is"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "something incredibly relevant to reference. Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "gives this exact description about how they were able to"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "travel using the craft, which was some type of elastic pull from in front of"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "the craft that would draw the craft forward falling into gravity. There are three amplifiers."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "The craft can operate on a single one can lift off the ground. The way in"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "which it's propelled are two different ways. There's what"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "they call omocron configuration where the craft is using one generator"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "uh or a delta configuration where it's use utilizing all three. Delta configuration would be for space travel."}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "Essentially, the craft will tilt up on its side. As opposed to a science fiction movie"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "where you see a flying saucer moving around, the craft will tilt up on its side, focus the three gravity generators"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "to a single point, and move through space that way. Moving around a source of gravity is a problem to a disc"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "because it's interference essentially. So, what they do is they work with that"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "interference to their benefit. They'll use one gravity generator to lift the craft off the ground."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "And as opposed to what we're used to, for instance, a plane, once it's in the air, we envision thrust or some force"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "coming out the back of it to push it forward. The crafts work completely opposite of that. What they do is once"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "they're hovering in the air, they'll swing the gravity two remaining gravity generators up in front of them and"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "create a distortion essentially a downhill and the craft rolls downhill"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "for infinity. It's always chasing a little distortion. Also, gravitate"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "skipping upon the light waves does sound a lot like the gravitational waves"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "described gravitational wave A and B described by Bob Lazar and sort of"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "riding those. Now, it's interesting because the manuscript only came out in 1980"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "prior to Bob Lazar coming out. No, it was written in 1980, but only"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "became public in 2013. So but this discussion was in fact later"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "on. So another thing to be noted although"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "this man's story talks about 1940 he was definitely not saying these type of"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "things there's no record of any of this uh being said prior to Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "although that's what this gentleman is inferring. So just uh that has to be"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "noted but it is interesting nonetheless. If we take it at face value that this"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "actually uh did happen then you know it definitely adds some"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "credibility and increases the conviction level of anyone out there looking into you know Bob Lazar story"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "in my opinion. They invited me to accompany them on their journey but I declined. I was"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "driving to Portland the next day for my wedding. I didn't want to leave them though. Okay. Again, another discrepancy. I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "sorry for interrupting, but you know, earlier he said, \"I don't know why I declined and now he's like, I have a wedding the next day.\""}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "That like that's a huge reason not to leave the planet and something you would mention."}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "Strange. Upon leaving the ship and standing by a rock some distance away, I heard the"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "same loud noise as before. As the craft lifted, rotated with a sort of wobble,"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "brought up the landing gear, and began to rise slowly. It went faster as it rose until it"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "disappeared at great speed. An energy had permeated the area, and I lost all"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "my strength for some hours. I was unable to walk. When my strength finally returned, I walked back to base camp."}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "Another detail that was left out, but incredibly important. First of all, the"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "craft just kind of leaving. I mean, that's what it would look like if it could travel at great speeds without"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "making noise. It would just look like it's calmly leaving, but all of a sudden, it's gone. Uh, secondly,"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "feeling weak after this energy field was around you seems like some type of"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "radiation uh effect. And and this has definitely been noted by so many other cases that"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "we've looked into before. Again, is this gentleman just picking up on those things as he did admit to reading about"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "some cases? When I arrived at camp, no one else mentioned the craft. I never mentioned it to any one of them. A young"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "man came up missing from his claim, however. Nothing there had been disturbed. He was just gone without a"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "trace. I was never sure if it had anything to do with my experience or not. Udo returned annually to the mine"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "for a few years following the incident, but never saw the craft or its occupants after that. He related that he always"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "wished that he could have seen them again. Udo was so reluctant to speak of the incident that nearly five decades"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "had passed before he shared it with his wife. Only after discussing it with his own church authorities."}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "Tim describes Udo as shy, pleasant, Scandinavian immigrant, a carpenter by"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "trade. He trusts the word of this Christian man and reports that Udo related this account to his father, a"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "church leader, in a humble and matter-of-act way, having a relationship of friendship and trust with him."}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "Although we can begin making a composite perceptual sketch of the nature of UFO"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "occupants from the tidbits of information we gain from alleged observers, it is not until we commence"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "an analysis of abduction reports that we gain any understanding of their purpose"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "for visiting Earth as claimed. The quote unquote space brother preachings of the 1960s began to pale in comparison as we"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "compile the data that are streaming into investigation centers in connection with"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "abductions and the story they tell is quite unsettling. So that is all the information we have"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "on this very strange case of Udo Wartana's encounter"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "as talked about here by James Thompson. Again, Warren Pasten has a symposium on"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "this uh which is available on YouTube if you guys want to listen to that as well. But"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "as as as a researcher myself and someone who is really fascinated with this topic, I"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "accumulate so much knowledge from reading magazines and articles and watching videos and"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "speaking to people uh and and it just kind of is stored in the back of my mind"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "until something like this crops up and then neural connections are are being"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "made. And I want to share one of these connections uh in a book that I believe I've covered before. We read through"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "part of this book was the Antonio Vaso case. The first sort of documented"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "abduction happened in I believe 1957"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "or 58. And what what really stuck out to me was"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "the acquiring water. What are the reasons there? And we have multiple"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "cases. Not only uh the case of Joe Simon, who by the way describes a"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "similar craft, describes a similar sound. He said a jet engine, but also"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "the beings gave him a jug to fill up with water that he gave back to them."}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "But that isn't the only jug of water case. There are other there's another case, I forget which one it was. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "you guys can refresh my memory, but there was another case where someone else I I believe it was in a Spanish-speaking country uh was asked by"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "the alien to fill up a jug of water."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "The water connection doesn't stop there. Obviously, we see time and time again these sightings"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "over or in and around large bodies of water."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "So what are the reasons for these beings wanting water? Right? One can be sustenance obviously if they're thirsty."}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "Um but two I think what everybody's thinking is fuel"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "hydrogen. This seems like a really"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "I don't know. It seems like if you were going to make fuel and if you were an"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "advanced civilization, why not make it with one of the most abundant things in the universe,"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "the sort of lightest element in existence."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "I feel like that would be most optimal for fuel. It wouldn't be helium. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "wouldn't be lithium. uh it wouldn't be burillium, it would be the lightest one"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "which is hydrogen. But something conflicting happens if we"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "look at the case of Bob Lazar."}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "In fact, Bob Lazar's fuel is the complete opposite of hydrogen."}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "In fact, it's the heaviest element known to exist at the time,"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "element 115, which makes it not only incredibly"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "heavy, but also incredibly hard to come by and stabilize. The complete opposite"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "of hydrogen, which is abundant and easy to extract hydrogen from."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "Well, I'm reminded of the conversation with a"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "you know rather striking reptilian Lerta where she had mentioned that in the"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "agreement which we can assume was the Gria treaty in 1952 with Eisenhower,"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "there was this sort of agreement between this race of aliens and humans uh an"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "exchange for technology in order to you know keep doing what they're doing or whatever it was. But they said the"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "aliens tricked us. The aliens basically gave us technology and and told us it"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "was the heaviest elements that made these things work when in reality was"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "actually the lightest. So it was like a bluff. It was they gave us a red herring and we were just dependent on this alien"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "species to fly their craft without which we could not even operate."}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "And wouldn't it be the darnest thing if in fact hydrogen was the answer to all"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "of this and that we were just reverse engineering something that was pretty much impossible"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "to get to the bottom of? Just an interesting hypothesis, but"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "something that supports the planet Earth being a giant gas station other than a"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "prison planet. But what are we doing? Where are we living here?"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "um doesn't sound like we're the most exotic"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "destination in the universe or even the galaxy or even the solar system for that matter, but uh gas station/prison"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "sounds about right. Um chapter 1 talks about something that happened in 1914."}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "We're talking 36 years prior to Udo Wartana's encounter. This is"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "crazy. I don't know if you guys have ever even heard of this case, but here's another one for you."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "Late one August evening in 1914, a man and a woman, their three small children,"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "and three young American men crouched behind rocks and brush along the banks of Lake Ontario at Georgia Bay, Canada,"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "and watched a weird scene. A strange globular craft which appeared"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "to be about 15 ft in diameter rested on the surface of the water about 450 ft"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "from shore. On the square shaped substructure"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "at the water line were two small men-like creatures who were busying"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "themselves with a green hose. The little men worked quickly and seemed"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "to be having some problem with kinks in the hose by the way they were manipulating it. This incident was"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "related in a letter received at AppPro headquarters in late spring 1966."}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "The writer, after reading several articles by Miss Laorenzan in Fate magazine, had decided to confide his"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "experience to some who apparently would listen to such revelations with a sympathetic ear. The sighting proved to"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "compare favorably in detail with another similar incident which took place in 1950 and was the first in a long line of"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "incidents involving the unidentified flying objects and their bizarre occupants"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "until 1966 when the mystifying case of Mr. and Mrs. Barney Hill uh and their"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "purported encounter with strange beings in an equally strange craft in the White Mountains of New Hampshire 1961 took the"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "public's fancy via Look Magazine. The occupants of the UFOs had little if any status. On the one hand, UFO researchers"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "had been confronted with the religious machinations of contact, which claimed"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "communication and contact with friendly space brothers, not unlike angels in their apparent intentions and"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "appearance. On the other, there were the often too frequent accounts of unexplainable hairy bipeds,"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "small humanoids with oversized heads, and nearly averaged humansized man-like beings about 5t tall."}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "Some researchers with reservations decided that all reports should be studied, providing a craft was involved,"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "whether occupants were involved or not. Others emulating the establishment quote"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "unquote which they often bered for its erret reticence in facing the issue"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "rationalized that the second category or little men was at best a hallucination"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "or more probably the product of an overactive imagination of hoaxers. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "not not unlike what we're dealing with today. But shortly after receiving the letter"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "from the informant about the 1914 affair, we decided that a close scrutiny of the writer would be in order and a"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "qualified member of APRO in the San Francisco area was asked to interview the man who had reported the incident."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "William J. Keel is at this time a pensioner, 68 years old, lives quite"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "comfortably in a flat in San Francisco. His background is rich in the lore of the days when outdoor adventure was"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "still possible. During the summer of 1914, Ke had been working on a canal."}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "And when the job ended, he decided to take a Lake Ontario boat and look for another job. He was 16 years old. During"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "the journey, the boat developed trouble and sank. Some of the passengers drowned, and young Keel had to swim for"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "his life, but made it to shore on the Canadian side. His meager savings had"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "been pinned into the pocket of his shirt, but were lost during the swim, so"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "he was without money or employment. Two other young men, a college student"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "and a machinist, about 25, both from Boston, had survived the boat accident with him. The two older men had planned"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "to bum their way by freight to the west coast of Vancouver and then to San Francisco exposition of 1915. They"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "allowed young Keel to tag along with them. So, the trio set out for a hobo jungle they had heard about at Georgia"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "Bay. All right. This is like straight up Roger Miller, you know, trail train car"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "hopping uh early 1900s living. Kind of cool. It was late August. Canada, being"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "a part of the British Empire, had just declared war on Germany. And when the three men arrived at the railroads at"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "the railroad yards, they found it teameming with Northwest Royal Mounted Police and an assortment of other police"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "officers, apparently on the hunt for German saboturs. In the process, any luckless individual"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "with no excuse for being in the vicinity was picked up. After asking a few careful questions,"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "the three found that if they could get a few miles west of town, they could probably hop a freight without"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "interference. And so they set trying uh to get that far. At this juncture, they"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "encountered a French Canadian couple with three small children who wanted to take a large rowboat 8 mi west along the"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "North Lake Shore to inspect a mining claim and who didn't mind giving aid to fellow travelers. A lot of mining going"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "on in in today's episode. At nearly the point where the Canadian couple had planned to stop, the boat"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "developed a serious leak and the party put in a small spit where the father could work on the boat and the party"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "could spend the night on the beach. The boat was pulled in, turned over to dry out and the whole group moved inland"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "over a small cliff and began gathering firewood. Okay, so the boat sank or the boat was leaking. They pulled over."}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "They're by the water overlooking this, you know, great Canadian lake. And at"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "about 5:00 p.m., one of the children spotted a deer at the water line staring"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "out over the lake, apparently unaware of the humans nearby."}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "When the girl glanced in the the direction the deer was looking, she saw an unusual craft resting on the water."}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "She called her mother, who when she saw it, called her husband and the three young Americans."}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "Keel says the air was very still. The water was unruffled and the craft sat"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "motionless in the water about 450 ft from shore. Its shaped was that of a"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "globe except that it was slightly flattened on top and had some sort of a"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "square substructure around the bottom. So like some type of"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "square platform that came down from under it, which we've seen, by the way. This is 1914. This is crazy. Two quote"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "unquote little fellows uh were on this deck-like substructure and appeared to be busy with a hose which looked to be"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "about two 2 and 1/2 in in diameter. The hose was"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "green and on the end of it was a round object."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "When Keel first noticed the little men, they were working vigorously with the lower part of the hose, uh, the other"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "end of which came out of the globular structure above their heads. Their motions indicated that they were taking"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "the kinks out of the lower part or untangling it in some way. Questions"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "later put to Mr. Keel about the small men he observed yielded the following information. They appeared to be 4t tall"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "or under or dressed in tight fitting suits which revealed their human shapes"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "and which appeared iridescent for they were green or purple as they moved about"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "in the late afternoon sunlight. The term iridescent is applied here for it for it"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "best describes the color involved. Each of the men wore a box shaped or square"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "yellow headpiece. While the little men were concerning themselves uh with the hose, which appeared to be controlled by"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "something in the upper part of the globular structure, three pipes or straight objects came out of the top of"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "the craft along with the heads and shoulders of three other small"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "creatures. These three began doing something to the pipelike protrudences. Keel could not discern what the three"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "were doing, but noted that while they, like the other three, were wearing square yellow headgear, their clothing,"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "what could be seen, was khaki colored. He also noted that the size of the heads"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "was large in comparison to the dimminionive bodies. Ke described the bodies as skinny. When the trio of"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "little men on top of the craft finished their task with the pipes, they turned and seemed to look very piercingly at"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "the deer which was watching them in front of the beach. The deer turned and ran back into the woods. They seemed not"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "to notice their human audience as far as Keel was able to tell. The three topside men then disappeared into the craft and"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "the pipes went down in the same manner. At this point, the creatures on the substructure had gotten the hose in"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "through a square hatch above them and about midpoint of the craft itself, and"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "one started to get into the hatch. Ke could see into the hatch and noted what"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "seemed to him to be tiles set in the opposite wall, which were bright green"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "in color. bright green tiles, you know, to him in"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "1914 might be like some type of LED light or maybe even like a computer"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "screen or something. I don't know. Just as the first little man got into the hatch, the craft began to lift off the"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "water. Water streamed from the bottom of the craft and the remaining little man clung desperately to the chrome-like"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "ring which encircled the globular substructure. The craft lifted straight up to an"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "altitude of about 15 ft and Keel could see the underside which looked like a lattice work of square metal grain color"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "like the rest of the craft and which shed water. Now this again happens time"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "and time again in a lot of sightings these craft lifting up and like water pouring out of these crafts."}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "Then the whole globe tipped back at a sharp angle"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "and shot off into the sky at an angle of about 30 to 45\u00b0."}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "It made no sound at any time which Keel could distinguish. And the last that William Ke saw of the craft, the little"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "man who had been left clinging to the rail around the middle of the globe was"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "still holding on. Keel says he often wonders what happened to him."}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "Uh, as do I, William. As do I. Um, I mean, so many awesome things here."}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "The craft tilting and zooming off without a sound is obviously, you know, not as rare as one might think."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "APRO's investigator asked Mr. Ke what was said about the incident by his companions and Keel replied that they"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "were all startled at the incident but talked little about it afterward. For"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "one thing, there was a language problem. The Canadian family spoke only French and the young college student was the"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "only interpreter and his French was apparently not the best. The machine was"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "watched by the group of eight people for about 10 minutes, affording everyone a good look. The most startling thing"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "about this particular incident is its resemblance to another sighting which also took place in Canada July 2nd,"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "1950. A senior executive of Steep Rock Iron Mines and his wife were on an outing in"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "Sawtooth Bay on Steep Rock Lake in Ontario. They had beached their boat on"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "a sandy shore where there was plenty of shade and had some tea and sandwiches and sat back to relax."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Suddenly, a shock wave was felt. The air seemed to vibrate. The man thought it"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "might have been a dynamite blast, but there had been no sound. The executive decided to investigate and climbed up on"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "a rock outcropping which protruded above the undergrowth. Looking through a clft"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "in the rock, the observer saw a large shiny, apparently metallic object"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "resting on the water about a/4 mile down the shoreline. He quickly scrambled back"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "to his wife and brought her back to the niche so that she could see the object too. It looked like two huge saucers"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "stuck together lip to lip. What appeared to be round blackedged port holes"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "were arranged around the circumference where the saucers joined. Again, Joe"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "Simon, Udo Wartana, we're talking about the same type of port holes. On top of the"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "bizarre craft, what appeared to be hatch covers were open, and the observers saw about 10 small figures moving about."}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "Protruding from the top to about 8 ft above the deck was a hoop-shaped object"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "which rotated slowly. When it appeared to be pointed at a location directly opposite to two"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "observers, it would stop and so would the little men. The man and his wife got the distinct impression that the"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "concentration was on their location and a duck behind the rock. The hooplike"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "contraption seemed to be operated by one of the figures on a prominence directly"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "below it. This being had a bright red apparatus on its head while the rest of"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "the figures on the superructure were wearing blue headpieces of some type."}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "What's interesting here, folks, um that"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "that protrusion, that disc-like protrusion also sounds like what was"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "described by Antonio Vizboas and his craft."}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "The executive estimated that the size of the object was approximately 48 ft in diameter, using the size of the two"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "trees in the opposite shore as points of reference, and that the little man, who had shiny metal of some kind on their"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "chests and dark clothing, were between three and 3 and 1/2 uh 3 and 1/2 and 4"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "ft tall. No features were noticed, of course, because of the distance of about 1,200 ft. The two observers agreed that"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "the tiny figures moved like automatons, did not turn as normal beings do, but"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "changed direction laboriously, as though it was a difficult task, and turned their feet before turning their bodies,"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "almost drone-like or robotic like, weird. Two bright green hoses extended into the"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "water, and during the sighting, a distinct humming sound could be heard. The"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "witnesses thought that water was being taken into the ship with one hose and that it was being discharged back into"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "the lake through the other. Whoa. Like they were extracting the hydrogen. Maybe"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "that's insane. Each time the rotating hoop pointed in"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "their direction, the man and wife would duck behind their rock shelter. The last time they ducked, when they stuck their"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "heads out again, about 20 seconds later, the figures in the hoop were missing and the object began to rise from the"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "surface of the water where it had been where it had rested. The water was tinted red with a slight gold cast."}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "This is interesting. So, there's like a uh a reflection perhaps of the glow of"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "the craft in the water. The object was estimated to be about 15 ft thick at its highest point, about 12 ft thick uh at"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "the edge. There was a rush of wind as it took off about a 45\u00b0 angle where upon it"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "vanished quickly into the sky. In the keel sighting, as in the steep rock case, a vivid green hose is involved."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "The craft is resting on water and the occupants of the craft seem sensitive to the presence of people or animals. Deer"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "are involved in both cases. Also, in as much as the Steep Rock case was"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "published and the Steep Rock Echo, House Organ of the Mining Company, and later"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "in Fate magazine, from which so many latter-day UFO experts glean so much of their material, the skeptic is tempted"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "to assume that perhaps Keel read the Fate account and got the idea for a story. But this does not satisfy however"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "for in those instances in which plagiarism of ideas is involved, the plagiarist generally aders as closely to"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "the original story as possible in order to give an affair of authenticity to its tale. Okay. Keel was questioned closely"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "by APRO's investigator and by letters from APRO's office, but was firm in his assertion that the entities were not"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "mechanical men, but rather were living beings because of the way they moved about. There can be no doubt that the"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "craft and keel story differs greatly from that in the steep rock case. This"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "is not surprising. However, for even if they did have the same"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "origin, it is not possible for the aircraft design to change radically in 36 years. It's a good"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "point. You know, does do extraterrestrials also see technological advances as often as we do?"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "And why not? There is an explanation for the movements of the steep rock creatures,"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "which is logical and even sensible. If the figures on the craft were uh living beings equipped with, for instance,"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "magnetic shoes, uh they could give the appearance of moving about clumsily with great effort. And if we extend our"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "theorizing just a bit further, we come up with the possibility that having lost one of the crew in a similar area during"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "a water operation, better means of navigating on the possible slippery surface of the craft"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "might be adopted. Magnetic shoes. That's hilarious. This might be, you know, a"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "consequence of the other alien, you know, hanging on to the side of the craft as it takes off. They're like,"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "\"Hey, we lost one already. put these shoes on next time you go down there so it won't happen again. So"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "funny. And so that about wraps up those two"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "uh tangentially related cases. They're cases that relate only um not in so much"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "of the beings, but definitely the crafts not being super shiny metal, the shape"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "of the craft roughly. Um, but most importantly,"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "the hoses. Who' think that uh hoses would lead us"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "down such a rabbit hole? Uh, very interesting indeed."}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "All right, I'll give you my conviction level percentage on Udo Wartana."}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "I am pretty high conviction that something did happen to him. And by"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "pretty high, I mean, gee, I don't even know if I would say pretty high. I don't even know if I'm"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "over 50%. I might be under 50%. And the only reason for that,"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "you know what? No, I'm I'm I'm I'm 51% that something did happen."}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "And the only reason for that is because he has no reason to really he's not publishing any books. He's an old guy"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "and he just shared this with like the priest at his church and like his close friends. Like there's no"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "there's no seeking attention here outside of that. Now, does that completely dismiss the"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "fact that maybe he's just trying to impress people? I don't know. I don't know this guy. Um but I would say I would say it feels"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "like something did happen. All the other details that we hear about"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "later on are obviously questionable because the story does change."}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "I would have loved to talk to this man. Uh but alas, that's all we have to go"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "on. But I do find it interesting that we have this hose and then the other hoses"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "that are mentioned by Coral Laorenzan in Flying Saucer Occupants. I think that is"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "really interesting. So again, over 50% which is pretty high."}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "You know, I I my my conviction level was definitely higher reading his first manuscript and"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "then reading a second subsequent one does seem like he's padding stuff on, but that again might just be because he"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "didn't want to divulge too much information to the senator at the time. Who knows? What are your thoughts? What's your conviction level? Leave it"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "below. Folks, that is it for today's read through. I want to thank you guys for sticking through this. I want to"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "thank you guys for listening wherever it is you listen to these episodes on. And don't forget, if you want to see us live,"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "you'll have at least two opportunities. 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We were with him in the four or five days after the hearing."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "We saw his phone get blown up by every single media entity in the world wanting to talk to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "him. So, we know that people were interested in his story and we we know that there's"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "it doesn't make sense when there's only two pieces of content on the internet about his story."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "What I do want to talk about is Elio. Okay, come and get me. I'm trying to get"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "abducted. Full-fledged Disney production of a child named Elio who wants to be"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "abducted by aliens whose aunt is part of Space Force. Soft disclosure for the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "kids. Soft disclosure for the kids. You're priming a child to grow up to not fear"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "these concepts of um abduction and yeah they are even"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "talking about like having samples take like it was normalizing things that yeah"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "probe I'm just getting probed like he was happy to be get and they mention arrow"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "that was the craziest mention in the whole film I think mention what it is negative but arrow's here and the NASA"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "is on the way you know we watched uh the end credits here. The producers gratefully acknowledge the cooperation of the"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "United States Department of Defense and Department of the Air Force. You've had"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "a few sightings. I'll talk about the most recent one just because it it's the one that lasted the longest."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "And how long was this sighting? Uh 3 to 4 minutes. Wo. Yeah. You know, seek discomfort was the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "guiding principle in in my life to it being even more specific. I'm just like"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "seeking disclosure at this point."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "I am a former SWAT police officer in Birmingham, Alabama. I was working at"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "the Homewood Police Department on July 2nd, 2012. I was going in for night"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "shift roll call at 2205 hours. It was uh dark, of course, cuz it"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "was at night and the there was low clouds. There was an airplane flying out of the Birmingham airport and right"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "under those low low clouds just hundreds of feet above city hall which was"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "directly across from the police department I saw a orange orb about the size of a small"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "like a Volkswagen car just pop out of the bottom of the clouds sit motionless"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "lighting up underneath the clouds. That's when everything changed for me."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "It's something I'll never forget. It was clear as day, just a bright ball of light. Then it just zoomed off into the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "clouds. Quick heads up, folks. Area 52 is now shipping from the US. 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It is happening."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "From being Area 52's biggest fan to just uh to being in the skiff. Well, I appreciate you saying that."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Means a lot. Of course. Um ladies and gentlemen, Amar Candal. Um Amomar,"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "you are an inspiration to so many people, you know. I mean, I don't even have to introduce you, but for those of"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "you who don't know, Omar is part of a very successful YouTube channel that is"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "called Yes Theory. One of my favorite channels in the world. You guys are just an inspiration to people, to millions of"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "people across the world. You do the coolest things and including"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "following up on a lot of UFO stuff. And that's, you know, that's partially what we're going to be talking about today is"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "your adventure in and around the UFO phenomenon, how you came about it, where"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "you are currently, and where you're going with this because it's quite exciting to see your venture. But"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "regardless, uh, Omar, I am so thankful to have you here. Thank you for joining me in the skiff. Likewise. Thank you for having me."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Yeah, absolutely. Um, yeah, dude. I mean, we can start anywhere, but I'd"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "like to maybe just get to know you a little bit more um prior to,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "you know, this whole UFO stuff. You know, we were first introduced uh through Jesse Michaels uh at the 2024"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "UFO hearing, UAP hearing in Washington DC, which almost we did almost didn't go to. It was like a whole thing and then"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "we connected there. Um, but you went to the one before that and in fact you got to spend time with America's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "number one current whistleblower, David Garage, which is wild. Um, but before"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "that, what got you into this phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "2020 lockdown? I"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "yes theory had taken a big hit with mobility just being able to move and"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "film in different places. Um what we do is very much experiential. We we go out"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "chase adventures stories interact with people and then all of a sudden during co everything changed. Um, and we had I"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "had a friend of mine, uh, Sky Collins, who is a a creator on YouTube, message me and she goes, \"You should check out"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "this Netflix series called Unsolved Mysteries. There's an episode about a case that happened in the Birkers in"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Massachusetts in ' 69, and I think you'll find it interesting.\" And in my mind, I'm like, Scott, I don't I'm not"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "really into UFOs. I, you know, I kind of cringe when I hear"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "these stories or when when I watch videos on YouTube about people talking about the light in the sky that showed up and the thing that came out of the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "craft. And in my mind, it was always this like very American thing. And uh"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "remember I got back home, I put on Unsolved Mysteries. There's just"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "something about the way that story specifically was told that didn't have the the things that would usually turn"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "me off about about these stories. Like the way they put the edit together, the way the story is told, the way they do"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the interviews, the way they put music over the events, it's usually just like horror vibe. And I'm like it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "need anything more to it doesn't need to be more scary than than what people are"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "narrating, people are, you know, describing the events that happened to them. So, it just always ticked me off."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "I always felt like I'm being pushed to believe like I'm being I'm being directed to feel the specific feeling or"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "to think to have the specific thought as I'm listening to the story. I didn't like that. I get that with ghost stories, by the way. Same vibe."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Yeah. Well, it was all for me it was always one category, the paranormal, the things that are outside of this this reality."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Y um and not that I was, you know, close-minded. I mean now in retrospect I"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "look at myself and I'm like yeah of I was close-minded. So um but at least I didn't think of myself as a close-minded"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "person. I in fact I thought I was very curious. But it was that it was that experience"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "that just made me kind of reconsider my entire worldview and and the way the"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "judgment calls that I'd made in the past about people that have shared stories like this. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "back to co I uh watched Unsolved Mysteries. I was completely blown away"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "by by the testimonies and there was two people in that story that I just felt like I really wanted to ask more"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "questions to. So, for those at home, could you maybe give us a cliffnotes of what happened"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "during that case? Yeah. So, in September 1st of 1969,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "about 300 people from four or five neighboring towns end up seeing"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "something in the sky that was spectacular, that would just didn't fit, didn't belong to to where people saw it."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "And a few of those people were children with their parents that end up disappearing"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "from where they were. Some were in, you know, hanging out by the lake with their parents. somewhere in the car coming"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "back with, you know, their grandma and mom from from the diner that they own. Just different stories and different"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "circumstances. But the commonality was these kids disappeared and they ended up on a craft where some sort of testing"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "took place. And you know, you can imagine like"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "I'm coming from a non-believer to a story where people say that they end up on a craft and and you know, samples"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "were taken out of them and there's like Yeah. There's physical evidence physical evidence on on people's bodies."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "So, it just really shook me to my core. But more so than me synthesizing the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "information that was being shared with me, it was actually more about me feeling"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "almost a sense of shame that I um that I judged those people without putting the effort in in vetting the information"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "myself and especially with how traumatic"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "people describe the event to them and the the amount of vulnerability it took for them to actually just come forward."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "and share that. And for me to just be so egotistical, to just think I know better"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "and I don't even need to look into what they're presenting in front of me. And it just that shook my entire reality and"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "it made me just go down into the biggest rabbit hole of my whole life. That was 5 years ago. my life completely changed"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "and ever since I just you know gradually developed a deeper and deeper interest towards the phenomenon and actually like"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "the beginning was more the phenomenon of us not believing other fellow human beings that tell us things that break"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "our constructive reality more so than me trying to even begin to figure out what are we looking at or who is visiting or"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "any of these bigger questions. I was just interested in like why are we doing that with each other and what has been"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the plan in place to get us to do that with one another because I think it's you know now with what I know about the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "phenomenon about the the way disclosure has been you know engineered over the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "years I think that um the current discourse in society is no accident"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "there's a there is a reason people have been conditioned over so many years with a laugh cue every time a celebrity on a"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "talk show says that they've seen a UFO. My god. Yeah. You know, it's it's almost an automatic thing and I could just start seeing all"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "these things after that experience after I came back and after I you know told that story for the first time obviously"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "also on Yes Theory the stories are the nature of the story is very positive. It's um"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "wholesome wholesome hopegiving a lot of adventure. So this was just like a I mean we were all worried that people"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "would be like what the [ __ ] are you guys doing? like this is not what yes theory is but for me it was like the core of"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "what yes theory is which is to seek discomfort that's the the guiding the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "north star guiding principle for the whole movement for for what we do and when we pick episodes and for me there"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "was nothing that was more comfortable was more of seeking discomfort than for me to reconsider my worldview"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "it's a good way of putting it did did you receive some partial"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "backlash from the other Yes Theory members prior to that and and and did you see some of their um ontolo the way"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "they see reality shift before during and after? Did you get to witness that and as well as your own?"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Yeah. So what I got to witness was actually the the people that I took with me on that mission cuz one of them was"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Tommy who's uh the lead editor of Yes Theory, the head of post and he is just one of the most pragmatic uh skeptical"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "skeptical people that you can and not in a negative sense but he's just yeah very logical."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Yeah. he you know studying math in college and and uh his reality was very much shook"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "but in a way where he actually got so scared that he even though he was there talking to the same people that that I"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "talked to he he kind of can post that experience uh had it had the opposite"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "effect on him where he just didn't want to hear more about it. Wow. Um, I think it scared him quite a"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "bit. You know, the things that were shared, people ending up on crafts and as I said, samples are takaring"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "to abductions. You know, you're not talking about someone who saw a craft in the sky and then all of a sudden it's not there anymore. That's a bit easier"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "to to take in. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "I thought that so he I knew that he was going to be the one editing the grush piece with me a year after that or 3"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "years after that. 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I want someone to almost"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "have the same conviction that I have so that we can put a a piece that has that energy. But I actually in the process realized, oh no,"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "that balance was really important cuz he was treating it as himself watching that"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "piece and I was treating it as also someone with a lot of passion towards truth and towards uncovering this, you"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "know, this reality here. So that balance of having these two perspectives in the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "piece, I think end up generating um uh a piece that wasn't just speaking to"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "believers or just skeptics. Yeah, I actually end up doing both. Yeah. And you know, the outcome of that"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Bergkshire video was immense. I mean, even for yesterday who does have a huge"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "following that was like kind of unprecedented. Like you you look at something like that, you're you're"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "touching a brand new niche in a like you said, this isn't the format. This isn't what we normally do. It's a complete"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "left turn. And yet ended up getting 7 million views. This"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "thing just goes off. The comments are, you know, quite positive. Yeah. For a channel that doesn't delve into the UFO"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "stuff regularly, you would expect, you know, a lot more of like, what the hell is this? But no, it hit"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "mainstream audiences and they because of the way that you were able to tell that story from someone experiencing it for"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the first time. Not someone biased like myself, not someone, you know, who's who's bought in. Um, it's someone who's"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "discovering. And I think that discovery people connect with just much like you"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "know when you guys are some in some random city and have to find a place to sleep without money. It's watching your"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "reality change with the things that you learn and getting to witness that on camera. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "I think that that's what connects to people not not just the UFO stuff"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "but how you deal with the UFO stuff. Yeah. And I think that might inspire a lot of people in in questioning"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "themselves like maybe I took too hard of a look at that too. Maybe I should also do a little more research before I, you"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "know, flippantly judge this. Spot on. So it was very uh yeah, very powerful. And that was my whole goal of just because"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "basically pretty much what I did is I recreated that episode that I watched on"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "unsolved mysteries, but in a way where I knew that I'm bridging a gap in the storytelling that I had to almost, you"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "know, turn a blind eye on a few things in that piece that still weren't ideal"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "because they were like the classic TV editing kind of like bit dated, but I knew that I could tell that story And I"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "could ask questions that are even more relevant to a young person watching. Yeah. Someone who who has no idea."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "Exactly. Yeah. And in fact, I'm going to do it in an in um in an atmosphere where it's just like"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "young people curious and we all there's the you know, you see Tommy being a little scared and uncomfortable with it."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "You see me excited, but like the entire time I'm just like being floored by everything that is being shared. Um,"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "you see Sky who was there who had who knew about the case asking even deeper questions. So"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "that's when I realized that there's a gap that exists in the storytelling about the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Do you think that there would have Do you think that you would have been on this path had that video tanked?"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "Oo, hard to say, right? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "I don't think that video could have tanked. No, but I think um Do you think it would have deviated or"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "it would have just taken longer for you to get there? The only difference it would have made is that it wouldn't have allowed me to"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "make the grush piece, which did change everything. Except that grush piece was an"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "underperformer for Yes, even though all the metadata on the back end on YouTube"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "Studio was said that this should be one of Yes Theory's best ever videos. No way. highest watch time, higher watch"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "time than Project Iceman, the two-hour documentary that that is on YouTube. Higher watch time."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "And Project Iceman is double. No way. Yeah. Yeah. So, I I was looking at the metadata as you know, in the first 24"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "hours, I was like, \"Okay, this is going to rip. This is going to this is perfect.\""}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "I think uh within 24 hours just the line completely flatlined. YouTube"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "recommendations like significant flag. That's what I believe. Like I would"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "No, but like did you did you did you get actually flagged? Did you see you didn't see anything on the front end? No."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "No. Just complete flatline of of growth on that video."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "That makes no sense. It makes zero sense. And I would like again I would put money on the fact that something was done to that video."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "Do you know what else is strange? Your personal data, your search history,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "your shopping habits, all of that has a life of its own."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "It moves. It gets duplicated, sold, traded, all behind the scenes without"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "you ever seeing it happen. There's this entire hidden economy built on you, your"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "information. Companies called data brokers collect everything they can, bundle it, and push it around in the"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "background of the internet for profit. And unless you actively stop it, it"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "never ends. And that's why I use Incogn. 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Incogn deletes your data"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "from the internet so you don't have to."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Because I really think I think the reality is people who already were interested in"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "Drush, interested in the in the hearing, those are the people that we're going to watch it anyways on Jesse's channel."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Yeah. And we're going to watch the, you know, the the the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "hearing on the news. Sure. But I think what we were doing is that we were introducing you know the"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "potentially 9 10 million people who may have never heard about this global"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "audience. Yeah. And I think that if you know to the power there would be that's that's a bit"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "that's too uh he was gaining a lot of traction at that point. Yeah. It was becoming mainstream media for"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "sure. Yeah. And you were probably the most mainstream outlet. And we're and we're talking about only"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "two cameras had access to him during this entire time. That's right. Myself and Jesse. And it was immediately after."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "And it was immediately after he was we were with him in the four or five days after the hearing. We saw his phone get"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "blown up by every single media entity in the world wanting to talk to him. So, we"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "know that people were interested in his story and we we know that there's it doesn't make sense that all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "when there's only two pieces of content on the internet about his story. Yeah. And both are done in very different ways. Jesse went into the technical the"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "historic. His got flagged, too, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's kind of the the confirmation that I have that"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "ours was was under the microscope as soon as it went went live because Jesse put his piece I think a week before"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "ours. So I think um yeah I doesn't make sense"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "doesn't make sense but but that's as I said your question was you know if if that first Birkshire's video had tanked"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "I just wouldn't have been able to make that but it would not have affected my"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "interest in the subject because if anything you know I would you know of course the video has maybe"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "1.4 4 1.5 million views. The one with Grush, which you know is is is great and I'm very grateful for that. But for Yes."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "Theory standards for what this piece should have been and the circumstances that it came out in it that should be 10"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "million views. Well, I mean, you got a video like Bob Lazar hopping on Rogan and it's got 65 million views. Obviously, it's Joe"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "Rogan. Yeah. But I mean, still, yeah, you know, this is the number one current"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "whistleblower in the whole sphere. This is the guy that on camera in front of Congress"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "talked about aliens essentially. You know, everybody else is talking about uh you know, a light in the sky or"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "fastoving object on a blip on a radar. This guy's saying we've retrieved bodies"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "and people want to hear about that. And what we did is we created another public hearing, a true public hearing"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "for for Grush. I think it was the morning after the hearing. We have a"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "very strong community that is present in, you know, all over the world. So, I put a call out on on Instagram asking"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "for skeptics and believers to send in a question that they would want to ask a"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "whistleblower. I didn't give more context than that. And then I just picked 30 people that had a good balance"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "between, you know, in questions and just told them to show up to to our hotel the following day to the rooftop and set up"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "this like room. And so I know that we it's not we weren't just repeating"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "something that is already in the hearing that someone wouldn't need to watch that video. It was fresh content. It was fresh content. It was we're we're"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "going with Rush to his home. We're meeting his partner. We're asking her questions like all things that are like"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "looking behind the, you know, behind the curtains about this guy, especially when he's coming to tell humanity. one of the"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "most profoundly shocking things that we've ever received from someone at this level. Like"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "I thought people would have more interest in knowing who the hell this guy is. And I think that's that's what"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "our piece was. Like I wanted to show what's his motivation as a human being outside of all the official things that"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "he's done and and you know the the Yeah. So I I And in your words, what is that?"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "What is his motivation outside of all that? Like in your own experience from hanging out with him, meeting him, and"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "knowing him personally, what's your gestalt on David Grush?"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "First of all, I think he's a hero for what he's uh what he's taken on to be able to say"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "what he said and and everything that he's gone through post. Um"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "you know, he he 2023 is now almost 3 years ago and you can see consistency"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "and the position that he's had and him not being uh you know, some media grifter that just wanted to promote a"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "book or or uh or a movie or anything of that sort. you can just see that he um"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "that he was in it to truly deliver a truth to to humanity based on the oath that he's that he had taken. And"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "I I think it's and I see that be a a trend between"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "people who have had jobs like Grush, people who've just been in in the military and the Air Force. I think"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "there's a sense of remorse over certain type of missions,"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "things that that happen, wars that were fought and that eventually, you know, years later we're looking back and be"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "like, you know, what the [ __ ] was that for? Um, and I think"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "for the potential that this topic offers humanity and"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "I think this is I find it to be almost um u"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "a way of like atoning to for things that happened in the past. And um"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "yeah, with with Grush specifically, I think um"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "I think he's he's such a h Let me think about that. His"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "motivation do you think want to be careful around? So that's why I'm Yeah. And you don't want to speak for"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "him. I understand. Yeah. Exactly. Do you in in what you were able to observe,"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "do you think he was happy with the outcome or disappointed the outcome being"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "the outcome uh the what happened afterwards with Congress and everything"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "else like I think he was disappointed. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Complete inability to get him in a skiff to to say what he needed to say. like he"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "really went above and beyond in telling them how they can get the information"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "that they need. And yes, I'm not the guy that touched the craft, but I talked to 40 people that that you know in some"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "shape or form have. And I can give you all the names, all the places, but they"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "just refuse to make the extra steps or have been blocked from taking the extra steps. And that's just that's just to any"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "American out there, that should be that's your answers right there. You have a guy that that tells you I will"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "tell you where these things are kept and there's no followup. Yeah. Um and obviously everything that he's"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "you know still goes through you know last just last month and I think Luna"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "Luna talked about it like some of some of the things that he's going through and the the threats that he's getting."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "So um a smear campaign as well and like all that stuff. Yeah. And he the funny thing is that he had told us about that smear"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "campaign on the ride after we picked him from the airport. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Like he almost we I think"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "it's it's in Jesse's video where he talks about them pulling out his mental health records because of PTSD. Like he"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "almost called out what was going to happen in two days. Huh. Um"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "Yeah. And and and I thought that was just uh it's deplorable. Yeah. As you know, I have a father who"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "suffered from PTSD. I had a father who suffered from PTSD uh you know for a very long time. Very severe as well."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "Very very severe. Um but my dad wouldn't lie to me because of it."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like u of course you know he had moments of uh where he just"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "didn't want to be around people or there was too much noise or yeah you know even you know he's had my you"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "know my father had like some daytime hallucinations sometime very very severe case PTSD"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "but he would never just lie you know what I mean like that's I don't I don't see that as being a clear symptom"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "you know of course you know that's that's the thing when you when to handwavingly put everything into one"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "category of, you know, bad mental health and say, \"Ah, well, you're not credible.\" I I think that's just a"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "disservice to so many people who have served in the military. For sure. Um and, you know, firefighters and"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "police officers and everything else. Like there's uh that was that was one of the lowest blows that I've seen."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. But I think um"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "yeah, I think he's made the the right call and just being very selective with who tells his story."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And of course, you know, I feel extremely lucky that he entrusted Jesse"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "and I to do that. And, you know, I'm proud of what we've been able to"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "make in the in the time that we've had to be able to put these pieces out. And but definitely if anything, again, back"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "to the to the original question, it's that it's me feeling that that video was blocked is what just made me want to"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "double down a thousand times more. Oh, it backfired on them 100%. I feel like there's a gap in in I"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "don't want to call it the market because I that's not how I look at it, but there's a gap in this space. Yeah. Where if you're someone who doesn't know"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "much about this topic. Uh there's not so many access points on the on on YouTube where you can just"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "like watch easier way in. Easier. Yeah. Watch someone just like handhold and walk you through some of"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "these cases. Like, you know, I I my favorite two channels on YouTube are American Alchemy and Area 52."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "I appreciate that. And uh but I sometimes I'm hesitant to tell someone who I am just getting into"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "the into the topic to go watch, you know, to go check out Area 52 because I'm like, \"Oh my god, if they go and"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "watch video about like alien hair and DNA and you know, which was an amazing just"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "incredible story and you know, props to him for just having the courage to come and share. I get it. Like there are"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "there are better intro videos than that to to ease someone in. Yeah. I you know, you you you bring up a fair point and"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "it's probably something that I should also be cognizant of um for when I come across people who want"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "to know what I do. You know, I should probably have some intro level video at least. And I'm I'm sure if I look at my catalog, I can"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "choose one to be like, \"Start here.\" Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, definitely definitely don't start with uh you know, the lizard people or"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "something. very quick and very random, but I think that can be fixed with uh creating a playlist."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "Sure. For the channel that will be new here. Exactly. That will just uh sequentially be able to take someone through, you"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "know, a three, four episodes that just perfectly kind of give you the lay of the land. You've done this before."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "Yeah. And um so yeah, I and and also the other thing is the age of the people"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "interested in the phenomenon. Isn't that crazy? I was shocked. Like I knew that it would probably lean"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "I'm going to pull it out please. I I knew that it would probably lean older, but when last night you told me about the the demographic stats of of"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "your audience, I was like, \"Oh my god, we definitely that needs to be one of the first things that we address to"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "actually allow for the subject to gain the traction that it needs.\" And we're going to go to audience here, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "going to pull it up for you so you can see for yourselves."}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "All right. Oh, yeah. There you go. I mean, okay. So, vastly different."}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "So, this is the age. Oh my god. This is the age breakdown of the last 30 days."}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "Area 52's um audience. You have 13 to 17, 0%. I have never seen that on"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "YouTube. 18 to 24 1.8%."}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "And then 25 to 34 16 and a half 35 to 30"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "35 to 44 30%. 45 to 54 24% quarter of"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "the audience 55 to 64 plus or is that 64? Yeah. 55 to 64 16.1%"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "65 plus 11.3%. I have never and in 10 years I've"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "been on YouTube, I have never seen anyone have the 55 to 65 plus be quarter"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "of the audience. Literally quarter of the audience for you is 55 years old plus. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "Well, if you want to go even further than that, over half of your audience, 60% of your"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "audience is is over 35 years old. And I just think"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "this topic is going to affect our generation more more than them. I I actually if anything we need to just"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "be better prepared with because when it comes when the time comes and something"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "happens they are going to overwhelm the heck they're going to flood the space with with just so much. the goal is"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "going to be to overwhelm people in a way. Yeah. Where the only thing that they would have left is to just believe"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "whatever narrative that they're gonna put put forward. Yeah. And and that's that's what I feel like I"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "would like to participate in preparing the world for. And not in like a I'm"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "like the hero that is going to do it. I just feel like I've been I've been given a very specific set of skills that I've"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "been able to use in a way that I've been like extremely grateful for over the years to just create impact and allow"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "people to live out their biggest dreams and their highest selves. And I just feel like at this point I need to use"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "that. Yeah. To tell better stories that will create these access points for people who don't know anything about this."}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "That's a great point. and and use the fact that I have some level of trust of people seeing you know my journey over"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "10 years on YouTube and just put that on the line like I literally willing to to"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "risk that to be like this is worth looking at 10 this is worth paying"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "attention to right now not tomorrow not not after like just right now we need to"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "be understanding what is what is happening what's going to happen because it's going to be very important when"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "[ __ ] hits the fan that we that we have a grounded perspective on what's going on. Yeah, well said. If you need any"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "pointers on making that transition. Oh my god, that I mean I just felt the the way this happened. I"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "was I had just landed in New York cuz I was running the the New York City Marathon a few days ago and you texted"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "me going, \"What would it take to to get you to the skiff?\" And in my I was on the plane. In my mind, I'm like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "god, what would it take?\" I would I would I would come from across the world to be in this gift. Like I almost feel"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "the entire time, you know, for however long we've been recording, I feel almost like an impostor. I like I shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "here. There's so many people with so many incredible stories and perspectives. Like I I just um so so"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "yeah, it just ended up working. You know, I live in Paris now. I live in Europe and and you know, New York to here, it's an"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "hour and a half flight. and and the timing that that to come and have this"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "conversation and be just immensely inspired by what you've built here and the leap that you've taken from being"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "one of the biggest magic and puzzle channels on YouTube in the world to just"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "being no you know what I am going to head on pursue this like thing that I'm"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "curious about that I think is really important and I'm going to do it in the best way possible I'm going to take"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "hundreds of thousands of people soon enough to be millions people on that journey in a way that truly like allows"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "people to become more curious. I love what you say around you know suspend your judgment leave it leave it at the"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "door just consider this to be a thought experiment and really because I think when there's a hyperfixation on facts"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "and information I think people have the fallacy of thinking that's what you need to change someone's mind"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "but from my pers from my experience it's you need to make someone feel something so profound and so deep to their core"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "that that will inspire that journey of them changing their mind. It starts with the heart and then the mind,"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "you know, the mind follows there. Definitely. Definitely. And I and I really love the way you've"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "been able to put out these stories in in a way that makes them digestible, fun to watch. You know, I I feel like, you"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "know, someone can be like, \"Oh, this is too gimmicky.\" But I actually think you're doing the opposite. You're just creating an environment where someone"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "can last three and a half hours listening to the craziest thing they're they're ever going to listen to. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "I definitely, you know, I'm inspired, as I said, inspired by by by the greats, you know, Jesse and yourself. And and I"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "want to, as I said, I I see us covering different grounds in the phenomena."}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "Jesse's going head on at the, you know, technical and the historic and you're going on with like just the the again"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "the the way you actually how you actually tell the story to someone to make them open and to ask more"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "questions. And the way I see myself participating in this is, as I said, create these access points where more"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "young people can can have access to the phenomenon and and more people who just don't know much"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "about it can can um can pursue it. So, it's almost moving from,"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "you know, seek discomfort was the guiding principle in in my life to it"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "being even more specific. I'm just like seeking disclosure at this point. And not the dis not the Congress disclosure,"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "you know, it's it's it's the disclosure that is happening by personal disclosure by yeah that that the the personal one"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "that is happening within that is you know allowing me to"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "feel like I've gotten so much deeper into"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "esoterics and religion and and creation and my belief in God and spirituality"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "like the the topic and my interest in it has improved my life in in so many ways."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "Wow. And has allowed me to know some of the brightest, most incredible minds and hearts that I've I've ever met. Even,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "you know, Jesse and I were just in in Norway chasing a story there. Can't wait for it to come out the end of the year."}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "Um about the Ghost Rockets, which is a phenomenon that, you know, was happening"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "uh back in the ' 50s. And I just, you know, the people that we were just meeting on a daily basis and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "the people who are into UFOs out in Scandinavia and Norway and Sweden and you just see"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "people who who are driven by such purity in their intention to to"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "uncover this truth. There's no I mean, of course, you have to you have to filter out people, but I've been lucky"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "to to come across the ones that are literally sacrificing to be able to do"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "this work so that more people know about it. Yeah. Um where there minimal personal gain is"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "being is being made out of it. Yeah. And uh I mean, first of all, thank"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "you for for the kind words and I'm so glad you're a part of the space. I mean, I'm so glad that you're you're"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "interested in this and, you know, you're no stranger to being uncomfortable and so, you know, that definitely helps"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "someone like you get into this stuff. Um, you might actually be more well equipped to handle a lot of this than"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "than most people because of that, right? Because of, you know, whether it's bungee jumping out of a helicopter or,"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "you know, or uh, you know, skydiving from 25. Yeah. Sorry. skydiving from or or or you"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "know going on top of the the pyramid of Giza like all these like wild things that you've done you know aliens might"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "not be so wild looking for that man I'm just uh actually it's funny like I look back at"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "post 2020 when I got into the subject like I would have moments when I'm skydiving and I'm like just I would"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "belly fly so I would just do nothing except like go on my you know belly and I'm just like scanning any orbs out"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "there yeah any orbs out there yeah I do I do the same in an Yeah. But it's actually because I'm a sky diver. I'm also and I"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "and I know I have the perspective of looking at things from the sky and falling at such speed."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "Yeah. To just know how vast the sky is. And people who think that if there's something in the sky, I have to see it."}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "You have no idea what you're talking about. Um cuz I can see my like, you know, I jump out of a plane and I'm like"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "turning around, I'm seeing that plane get smaller so fast until it just disappears. And that's a that's a big"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "plane, you know, let alone be whatever size of object that we're, you know, looking for. So, um yeah, man. I, as I said, I'm in"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "this um this conversation feels very relevant to the to the point that I'm at. Um, you know, I've been doing S3 for"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "10 years now, and I decided to take the last 3 months off in the year, and really just get to lock in and and"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "figure out how do I how do I mix what I've the mission that I've been on with"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "Yes Theory, which feels like my life mission, you know, uh, giving a sense of belonging to to people that watch"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "through the community that forms around the ideas that we present or just the idea of being a human being on planet"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "Earth and seeing the different explorations throughout through the different cultures and places that we"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "get to visit. That's always been the the ethos, the core that is like driving me"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "personally within Yes. Theory. So now I have that like a you know inspiring a"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "sense of belonging about our human experience and then the and then this other calling where I'm like I feel"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "something massive coming. the biggest paradigm shift in the history of our specy."}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "And I feel like these two things can be can be morphed into into a new project"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "that ultimately even allows me to feel that I'm truly responding to that"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "calling um without it being these it's the two silos, you know, my"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "disclosure, you know, truth seeeking, disclosure seeking mission that I, you"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "know, that I've been lucky to be able to do and support, you know, on Jesse's channel and, you know, my life and work with"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "Yes. And I don't really like the fact that they have kind of split, right? Um especially, and that's the"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "unfortunate thing, you know, post the grush piece, it not landing in the way"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "that we had hoped. I I'm a bit hesitant to repeat even even though it's"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "probably, as I say, it's probably more driven by by fear. Mhm. But also, I think there there's not a"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "lot of spaces in the world, whether online or physical, that are uh unifying"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "and not polarizing. Yeah. And we've spent 10 years building yesterday to be one of the most unifi"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "unifying online spaces that maybe the hesitancy is just coming from like I don't want to put a topic in it that"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "will just create a divide within an audience that feels so cohesive. That's been, you know, some"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "of our conversations with you basically inviting me to just start something from scratch and dig the ones who are"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "interested in this. Yeah. People who are on similar journeys will find you. Yeah. And you know, you don't want to waste"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "your time or I wouldn't say waste your time, but you don't want to spend most of your time trying to convince those who don't want to be convinced."}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "Yeah. Because it's a it's a lot of it's a lot of waste of energy that can be put"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "towards nurturing a relationship that you have with people who are curious. And then also possibly through that"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "relationship that you're fostering with these curious people, you are creating an energy that does attract other"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "people. Exactly. Who aren't interested. You know, eventually they're what's going maybe I should see what's going on over there. And and you know, they'll"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "come check it out when they're ready. Yeah. And not everybody's, you know, not everybody's on the same page. And"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "I'm, you know, I'm very cognizant of that. I think that it's very important."}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "We're all on different life paths. We all, you know, whether you believe in,"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "you know, reincarnation and we're here many, many times learning many different lessons, like we're not all in that same"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "lesson right now. Some people are maybe just starting out and some people are so much further past that it looks"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "like they're starting out to us, but they just have become nihilistic or like, you know, or on some other frequency. So"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "yeah, I also think it's unfortunately a privilege to be able to"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "be able to have the time to think about all these things. Sure. And I think, you know, I've been since"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "last night since you told me about the demographics, I've kind of been obsessing over like why is that? It feels like it's again more relevant to"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "us. It's going to affect our life in the short term, you know, I think more profoundly than someone in their 60s."}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "Mhm. And you just you kind of think of it as like, well, someone in their 50s or 60s,"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "they've already done life. They've bought their house. They've had their their life is pretty. Yeah. They're not afraid of scrutiny"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "anymore. Their hierarchy of needs is is met. Yeah. And now they have time to self-actualize"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "and think about and ask the bigger questions. Yeah. Yeah. I I wonder if it's just a matter of"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "um not being in the place in life where"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "these are the questions that you're trying to answer. you're just trying to answer like what job am I going to have rent? How do I pay rent?"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "My student debt's racking up. And that's I mean that's totally normal. That's okay. And you make a great point. I"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "think yeah, there's you know the audience I'm grateful that the audience by the way is like my age"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "and and up. Uh for me from this channel because a um you know coming from a"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "YouTube channel where the audience wasn't so much younger. 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But I also think that the older crowd dealt with it a lot more"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "than than you know, we have so much coming at us right now. The kids with with phones and stuff. It's flavor of"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "the week. So, okay, we had a congressional hearing. You know, we're talking about it years later. They're"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "talking, they're not talking about it two weeks after it happened. We're talking about a congressional hearing this year that happened around 9"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "911, Charlie Kirk's assassination. So, you're like, good luck having anyone even pay attention to what was said. No,"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "no matter how groundbreaking it is. Yeah. So, you know, you had to sit and stew in a lot of those things back in"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "the day, right? Back in the 80s, 70s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, you had to sit with that information and that was all you"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "had. you had no further information. Yeah. Until it was brought to light. So"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "I think a lot of you know cases as well you know there some of the best researchers in"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "eupfology existed in those times and they made it their whole life's mission"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "to get the word out about whether it's abductions or the UFO you know phenomenon. And I think that had a long"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "and lasting and profound impact on that generation. 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I'm saying, you know,"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "um, where would you point them if you had to point them to one source of"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "content, whether it's a book, a movie, uh, a podcast or show, what would that"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "be? What would what would you tell them? It's a very obscure one. It's not going to be Elio, is it?"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "No. We just watched, which we should get to talk about. Yeah, we should get to. Um, there's"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "actually a show. Let me just confirm the name so I don't botch it. Um, well, I"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "would suggest going to check out his Berkshire video on on YouTube. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "definitely I'll put the link in the description. You definitely want to watch that even if you are a seasoned veteran in the UFO stuff. Go watch the"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "Yes Theory UFO videos and watch their other videos too. It is called"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "If you pull up Flight of the Navigator, I'm going to be pretty impressed. No, it's called it's an MGM Plus."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "Um, also great question for the audience. While you're looking that up, audience in the comments below, if I'm"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "new to this, like brand new, what's a book, movie, show, or podcast that you"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "would suggest? And hopefully whoever comes across this video, you know, has this crazy repertoire of like awesome"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "insight. So, oh, that's a beautiful prompt. Please do that. Um, it's actually a show called Beyond that"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "came out November 17th, 2024. And it's by MGM Plus. Is it Leslie Leslie Ke on that, right?"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, I remember seeing. Um, it's four episodes and I I just thought it was one of the best made,"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "most coherent UFO series ever made. M because it doesn't just focus on the"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "nuts and bolts. It's also the consciousness interface part. Um it felt like an amazing like Yeah. If if someone"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "has a deep genuine interest in this, this is an amazing place to go to to great"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "to be able to Yeah. And again, because it was an MGM plus like I just did the you know the"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "trial Yeah. one week and and watch and I was really really blown away. Yeah. And I think you can probably you"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "can probably find I think they end up putting maybe an episode or two on YouTube. So the first episode I think"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "um so you know check it out there and you know on on Apple TV you can always you can always get to it. But uh when"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "when I feel like that's too high of a friction for someone to go and sign up or something I usually say the"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "phenomenon James that's what I was going to say James James Fox. It's a great It's probably the best entry point I"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "think in terms of a documentary cuz it covers such a massive scale of, you know, sightings, encounters,"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "runins, like all this from legacy to, you know. Yeah. And and I the phenomenon was how I"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "that was the first thing that I watched after cuz the phenomenon the phenomenon came out the day after I put the"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "Birkers. Oh wow. Something like that. So yeah. And then in the phenomenon,"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "the aerial case, which was the very end of the film, was what got me to just be like, what is in here? I I want to know"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "more. Um, there was something about watching kids, like I responded to old people, you know, people in their late"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "50s and 60s. Sorry. So, you careful. Yeah. Old"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "them fighting words around here. um that I just you know looked at and realized"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "oh this they have no reason to lie. 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And I I think for me because that's the way I got into the phenomenon. I just felt so bad for the"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "for the people that I talked to in the Birkshire video who, you know, as I said now in their 50s and 60s who were just"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "describing what they went through as kids and what their, you know, Tom Reed who's one of the main subjects of that"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "case, his mom would be harassed. They owned a they owned a a diner in the town"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "and his mom was like the refuge to all these kids that their parents didn't believe. because Tom's mom was in the"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "car with him ending up switching places with his grandma, you know, and we didn't drive."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "Like, she had more empathy because she just didn't deny these kids what they what they went through. And and I could"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "and I just I felt so mad at the world and at myself"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "simultaneously because I was one of those people that would like who knows what would have happened if I lived in"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "that town during that time. If right now I have the entire internet, I have all of YouTube and I could if I just spare"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "half an hour to an hour, maybe I and I'm not a believer or or like I never had curiosity towards the subject. You just"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "spend half an hour and and I promise that half an hour will make you want to ask more questions. I'm not going to say"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "half an hour you're going to, you know, with certainty know that the phenomena is real, but at the least that half hour should"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "generate like another week of like research because it should just be like all these question marks that you're"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "that you're coming across and and yeah, as I said for me because um my entry"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "point was failing to believe people that you know did everything to to be"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "vulnerable and share their their truth. I um I really connected with with Dr. for John Mack because I think that's"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "what he did to to people during the time that he you know started interviewing experiencers and abductees"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "and um and I just yeah I thought he was he was a great man and I and I I wanted in in"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "some shape or form to keep carrying that message of just giving people a platform"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "a way to listen to their stories attentively and and make them feel you know seen and heard and uh and"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "ultimately allow for this information to hopefully change something in the"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "public. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, you touched on something there that is"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "really I think one of the one of the things that comes up a lot in this space, which is the word belief and I"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "believe you or I want to believe or do you believe this person? Is that"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "believable? This is unbelievable. this word is just such a a binary"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "concept and there's no nuance to it. No. And I feel that that's not fair for"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "something that requires an immense amount of nuance in this subject. Agreed. And so, you know, Jesse refers"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "to this a lot as well, and I do now as well, but like this idea of conviction level."}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "Um, because if if I choose to believe something, then automatically more data"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "comes in through a filter of belief. And if I choose to not believe, then I'm filtering out data that that I don't"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "want to hear, that doesn't fit my model. Yeah. And John Mack had a wonderful way of putting it. And uh in in his book um"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "abduction, yeah, abductions, he he said, you know, there's three things you can do with information. You can either uh"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "apply it uh you can either, you know, fit it into the completely ignore it,"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "fit it into your current model or expand your worldview. And that that's it. That's really all you can do. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "And most people will do the first two. Most people will ignore and I don't blame them for that. As you said, people"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "got a lot of things going on. Why would you shake up their whole life and they still got to go to work? You know, I get it. You know, you don't want to hear"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "about it. Totally fine. If you think it's going to rock your world too much, then who am I to say you got to look at"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "this? And secondly, you know, you have more people trying to fit it into their current worldview for the same reason."}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "Um, but also that's where the skepticism lies as well is, oh, it's a weather"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "balloon, it's swamp gas, it's this and that. The hardest thing to do and often the riskiest and the bravest and you"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "know the one that'll probably ruin some relationships is broadening your"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "worldview. But one thing that you don't want to do right off the bat with that worldview is saying I believe"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "everything. Yeah. Because we're looking at anomalies, we automatically have to sort of look at"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "all the anomalies within the anomaly. And there are many anomalies, dude. There are lizard people that are Nazis"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "that are on the moon. Like it doesn't end, right? And I'm sure someone's out there like, \"Wait, what do you mean they're not real?\" You know, but the"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "idea is that yeah, you have to sort of mitigate this belief. And I think a good way of doing that is like you said,"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "judgment free. Let's just have the conversation. I don't need to tell you whether I believe you or not. Who cares?"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "Who cares what I think? Let's just have the conversation. And thank you for sharing, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "you think is true. And that's that's all that matters. And if we can foster a community and a"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "platform, multiple platforms that can do that, I think we're just helping disclosure in our own way."}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "100%. And I almost have a whenever I meet someone who doesn't has not come across"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "the subject. I have like an immediate classification. You're either an an open-minded skeptic or just your classic"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "close-minded skeptic who won't who will do the first two things. And that usually I will not there's like I have a"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "few litmus tests for how to like figure that out. What is what's what's your what's your initial litmus test? I want to know I"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "need to Well, it's usually it's usually just kind of uh seeing their initial reaction bringing up the subject."}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "Yeah. Okay. How do you bring it up? You usually like, oh, you see this UFO thing"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "the other day or like do you casually bring it up or do you like straight up go like dude I spoke to a whistleblower?"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "No. No. I usually go I usually ask a more general question is like ah do you do you think we've been visited?"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "Are we you know Well that's interesting because that's a leading question too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well I"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "Yeah. I almost you're ruling out the ultraterrestrials now. You're ruling out the interdimensional. Well, I think being"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "visited from from a realm, I'm not saying necessarily from, you know, up to down, but um"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "Yeah. And and usually the way they they respond to the question uh tells me a lot about about their"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "Yeah. If they go, \"Are you high?\" Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Um or they just like have the classic kind"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "of like they laugh and they're little green men. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um rather than it"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "being oh like you know tell me more or them having curiosity over the journey that makes me ask that question."}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "Yeah I think the ridicule part is is is my litmus test is like are you is your"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "instinct to ridicule someone for bringing that topic up or is it to just ask more questions. Um"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "but now I forgot where I was going with this. That's good enough. We got we got somewhere. But what I do want to talk"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "about is Elio. Yeah. Yeah. We got to talk about this. So, uh,"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "last night we're hanging out at the hotel, um, meeting Amar and we're just like, we're having dinner and he goes,"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "\"Did you hear about this Pixar movie that was about alien abduction?\" And I"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "went, \"What?\" I'm like, \"Surely you must be mistaken.\" Or maybe it's like some foreign, you know, small budget Pixar"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "offshoot. No. Full-fledged Disney production. Yeah. of a child named Elio who wants to"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "be abducted by aliens whose aunt is part of Space Force."}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "What a what a wild ride because what we were talking about your journey"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "Yeah. um which we'll get into eventually here, but is about this like you know creating"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "some type of um ambassadorship if you like on planet Earth for you know the"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "phenomenon out there. That's exactly what this movie is about. Yeah. Wild. Yeah. It it was it was so wild. Even the"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "the seed of motivation for the child in the film was the golden record which"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "which is my and what's the golden record for those listening who who might not know the golden record is basically the best"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "description for us is it was the message in the bottle that we put out in into space"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "on Hubble right on Voyager on Voyager right yeah not and uh and it is now the farthest"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "objects that we've ever sent into space they're about one day light one one"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "light day away. Um, which is just wild. All this time, the farthest object that"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "we've ever managed to send is one light day away. Um but the golden record holds"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "um basically some fundamental information about life on Earth, about"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "planet Earth, uh the makeup of life here, the fact it's carbon based, some references to DNA, and also an hour and"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "a half of Earth's greatest hits. Um, and"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "when I came across, when I got to learn about the golden record, I just felt so"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "immensely inspired and I immediately asked myself, what exists today that can"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "give people that same feeling? Golden record was 50 years ago. And also, who picked the hour and a"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "half? Like, whose whose decision was that? I I I didn't put my favorite Egyptian song"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "in there. Like, sure. Yeah. born and raised in Egypt. Like, but lot lot of things also 50 years ago"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "that aren't too kosher nowadays. What do we put on there? Some bad tweets"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "going out. What's going on? Um, and and I just uh"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "yeah, I immediately just became obsessed with how do we recreate that experiment"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "today in a way that makes it more global than ever, more reachable than ever, and"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "um more inclusive than ever. And that was part of your sort of inspiration into like pursuing this and"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "and you know, seeing that on this little Pixar movie right at the top, we're like, whoa, that's kind of I I mean, you saw I immediately teared up because it"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "just felt like uh it was like, \"Oh, I really get what this child is feeling cuz I felt that.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "And um but yeah, I think let's go back to Ilio before we get to Earth and talking about"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "that cuz I thought I found it very odd that"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "not a single person that I mentioned to not a single person that I me mentioned Ilia to and this is a Disney Pixar. They"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "spend millions, tens of millions of dollars in marketing. It's decent. When they make movies, they make sure"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "that people know that a movie was made. Nobody knew."}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "So that's like general public. I thought maybe my friends who are in the UFO space would get a would hear about this."}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "You know, the trailer went out a year ago. Nobody knew. A year ago. A year ago. That's crazy, dude. I This is not"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "Yeah. I I had no idea what you were talking about. Well, I only saw I only saw the trailer"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "in uh in March of this year, so I I didn't even see it when it when it came out a year. How did you see it? Does it on Twitter,"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "YouTube or something? On YouTube? Yeah. And not even that like it showed up. It's just someone mentioned the new Pixar. I was like,"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "\"Elio, I haven't heard of that.\" But they didn't even mention in the context of it being like about the interest that I have. Yeah. Yeah. It was just like"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "And then I go on, I watched the trailer. I remember it was two minutes of just goosebumps because what"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "what the trailer referenced made me"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "perfectly see that this was if there's like a a plan to prepare the public for"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "what's to come. This is one of the biggest moves that you could make. Soft disclosure for the kids. Soft disclosure for the kids. You're"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "priming a child to grow up to not fear these concepts of"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "um abduction and yeah they are even talking about like having samples take"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "like it was normalizing things that yeah yeah probe oh I'm just getting probed like he was happy to be get"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "um things that felt very much directed at just like normalizing certain things that maybe that I believe that will be"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "way more out there and people will get to learn about it. So, it's really important to like prepare kids to"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "receive some of these concept. Even even when you see like the alien forms and the way the physical forms that they"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "took, they're kind of interdimensional. Yeah. Um the craft is non-physical. The craft"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "spawns from the ocean. Yep. Uh right at the right at the top like telepathy. Telepathy. There's all the classic sort"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "of like tropes but reimagined. Not even tropes, the classic like symptoms of an abduction but reimagined in a Pixar"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "universe. you know, they made it cute and whatnot, but which is wild because, you know, obviously"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "horrific to a lot of people. Um, and to make a Pixar movie out of it was was uh was interesting."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "And then beyond that, beyond, you know, the the happy story of, you know, which"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "was a great story, great message. Beyond that, you have some very real"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "um military presence in this movie. And we stayed to the end. I remember, you"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "know, we watched uh the end credits here and at the very end, this is so wild cuz I wanted to see it cuz you see the"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "badge. It says Space Force. Yeah. It's the Air Force base and there's even a"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "there's even a box and they mention Arrow. That was the craziest mention in the"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "whole film, I think. Yeah. Like, \"Oh, is there aliens there? I don't know, but arrows here.\" And like you're we're"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "like, \"Wait, we had to rewind it.\" We're like, \"Did they say arrow?\" We literally had at in the same breath, we go, \"Did they just say arrow?\" And"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "then we rewinded like 10 seconds to hear it again. And they did. And then even on one of the crates, you know, just like those"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "skunk work crates in Close Encounters, you had the arrow a r o,"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "you know, on the box. I was like, \"Oh, they're really putting this out there.\" And then at the very end there's a"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "there's a mention and it says and I'll put this up and it says future earth ambassadors,"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "right? Which is wild. Yeah. And it has a bunch of first names and then under that it says the producers"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "gratefully acknowledge the cooperation of the United States Department of Defense and Department of the Air Force."}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "Additionally, the producers acknowledge the Guardians with a capital G uh serving in the United States Space Force"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "for their time and help in lending authenticity to our narrative about space missions and daily life in the"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "military. So, I mean, kind of wild, but"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "you do have to get everything approved through like, you know, the defense department. But it is insane that they're like, \"We're grateful to the"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "Department of Defense.\" You made a Pixar movie about abductions. What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then like for the"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "the depiction to make it authentic, I'm like the entire thing is about alien"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "spacecraft and interdimensional. What do you mean lend authenticity to our story? Yeah. So you're what you're saying that this"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "is we're talking about an authentic story and there's like a retrieval at the end too where they Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "crazy. And it's just as you said, like we've never really seen like Space Force is like a and it's the"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "Air Force's logo. Like they're not it's not some madeup thing. Yeah. They use like legit Space Force things. The"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "other thought The other thing that I thought was really interesting at one point you pointed out um the the child's"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "aunt who's in Space Force and she keeps referencing astronauts. They reference astronauts a whole bunch. Don't even get into it. It's kind of weird. Yeah. But"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "she um she plucks a hair sample from like one of the one of the aliens and"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "looks at it in a microscope um you know and it's it's a whole thing about alien hair"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "and I just did this podcast with with Peter about an alien hair. So I filmed"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "that whole segment. I I'll put it up I'll put it up here. But I sent that to Peter and I was like dude what? And he's"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "like where do you think they got that idea? I'm like, I don't know, but it's kind of crazy that we're looking at alien hair now in a Pixar movie."}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "No, there's so many there were so many references. I really Yeah, it's on Disney Plus. If anyone wants to wants to"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "check it out, definitely recommend it. Especially if people out there with their kids and they already hear you"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "talking about this all the time. Feel like that would be a quite a good generational bridge. Yeah, maybe that's the the recommend for"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "the very young audience. Very young. Yeah, exactly. You got to start somewhere. What would be your recommendation for like what"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "would you send people to if they Yeah, I think the phenomenon as well. There's also a I mean there's a few things. The"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "phenomenon would definitely be one, but I also I'm a I'm a big fan of like"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "moment of contact. And I think for the hard skeptic out there, I think the moment of contact is"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "like a sole single case with many many witnesses in a town that has like you"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "don't see a lot of reason for people to be lying. Yeah. And I think that one hit home for me like a lot because it's also it also"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "happened during my lifetime. Yeah. you know, 96, I would have been 12 years old. Like, you know, that's a that's a"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "wild thing to think about for me to be like, \"Oh, I was playing playing outside with friends while, you know, some"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "aliens were running around in this town.\" And then lastly, I think um the show I think I'm trying to think of the"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "name here. Uh it was a Steven Spielberg show. It's on YouTube."}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "Do you know this? No. Not Contact. Is it? It's not Contact. Great movie though."}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "Oh, yeah. Great movie. Um, I'm I'll I'll Google it real quick. Um, but this is if"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "you've never seen this, you're going to um you're going to love this."}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "Uh, no. Encounters was a docu series from Netflix. Taken. Taken. Do you know about Taken? No. Down."}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "What? Taken is probably I would say like after you watch that"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "you go Spielberg knows. It's a You watch Close Encounters and you're"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "like, \"Yeah, wait till you see Taken.\" Okay. Because it's like scop Nazis, Crash"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "retrieval, um, alien bodies, autopsies. It goes into like all and like psionics"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "and like dude, it is When was it made? This was like early 2000s. Oh, wow."}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "Free on YouTube. 10 episodes called Taken. Every time I ask somebody like, \"Oh, what's something you should watch?\" Everybody references Taken because"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "I have never even heard of flew under the radar and it's Spielberg. Okay. I got my own theories about Spielberg but"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "well when you said yeah Spielberg knows I I think there's been a select few people in society that"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "like in media and stuff. Yeah. That that have been and I think Disney has had a I think he's got a very important role."}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "Yeah. Big time. I think and it's like we're now in like the maybe final act the act before the final"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "act in in his like disclosure mission. Yeah, with the film coming out next year."}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "Apparently it's not the name of the movie. Oh, it's not going to be disclosure. No. Interesting. Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "maybe two on the nose or something. But it's also maybe like I mean I threw this theory out there."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "Okay. Uh couple months ago where I was like what if All right. Like Spielberg"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "um a long time ago. Well, that's what I'm thinking. What if a long time ago he was given a deal like hey man play ball."}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "You're going to be our guy. We're going to find you. will give you, you know, who names a movie Close Encounter of the"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "Third Kind. Like, what an insane. Who would let you name that? No. Nobody."}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "Yeah. Nobody. That's who. That's the wildest title of a movie. Hollywood, Millions of Dollars. We're"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "going to let you just ruin it with some sentence of a name. Like, there's no way. It's an obscure passage in Jay"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "Allen Heinick's book. It makes no sense. Yeah. No, we're gonna we're gonna let you do that. We'll let you do whatever you"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "want, essentially. Wow. and you know from Taken to ET to"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "Close Encounters um you know he's he's just hit the entire spectrum of soft"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "disclosure and then gets you know a movie and calls it disclosure"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "and you're thinking I'm thinking what better way to serve up disclosure"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "in America than to see it on the big screen while you're stuffing your face full of popcorn."}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "and you look at the opening credits and it goes, \"This movie features a real UFO courtesy of the United States Navy or"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "Air Force or whatever, and then you go, \"Wait, what?\" And even maybe the actors don't even know that they're filming"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "inside of a UFO. Maybe they don't know. Maybe that's what all the hubhub was in Jersey cuz that's exactly the time that"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "they were filming. Oh, no way. Yeah. And so, right after. And so, maybe they were moving something."}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "Um, and so I thought, whoa, I wouldn't be too mad. I would not be mad at all if"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "you told me that that was disclosure. I would forgive so much."}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "You know, I would look past a lot of the shortcomings the government had and be like, \"Yeah, but you gave us"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "the biggest blockbuster hit of all time.\" Yeah. In theaters now get to see a real UFO."}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "That is no there's no more American way of disclosure to There is no American. And when when that movie title came out, disclosure, two"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "people in Congress retweeted it, Berles and Luna, and they said, um,"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "you won't want to miss this about the movie. So, they know what the content of the"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "movie. Yeah, I don't know that they know that, but that's a wild thing to tweet out from a Congress person like about a movie."}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "Like, that's doesn't that's not super credible. It's weird. M. So I just thought, man, that would be that would"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "be it. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first if that was to come true. Yeah. Maybe they caught wind of this."}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "They were like, man, we got to change the name now. This guy's this guy's hot on our trail. No, he's just um Yeah, clearly I've I"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "watched I just watched ET for the first time like three weeks ago, which I know for people that like knowing that I'm"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "into into the topic. By the way, I haven't seen Star Wars, Star Trek. Like, I've actually, as a kid, I never I"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "didn't like fantasy. I didn't like sci-fi. Um, don't respond well to things that don't feel real."}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "Yeah. Um, which is that's that's my closest friends find it really, really ironic"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "now that I'm saying all these things that don't sound real whatsoever, but to me, they're"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "Yeah, they're more real than than this. And ET was very real. There's a lot of very real elements in ET."}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. the telepathy stuff. The also making making us look at this ugly,"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "hideous creature and thinking it's friendly, which is what I thought Ilio did really"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "really well. Mhm. A lot of hideous creatures that Yeah. Why would Yeah. Don't be scared of"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "normalizing normalizing different forms. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they're friendly. It's funny. I actually didn't watch ET"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "because I thought that thing was hideous and I thought I was like a that's just like that's a wild choice to make a cute"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "friend. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's um Have you seen Flight of the Navigator? No."}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "That's a good one. Okay, that's a good one. They actually shot that at NASA. They shot it at the"}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "What is it called? Flight of Flight of the Navigator. Okay, I'll check it."}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "Yeah, dude. '8s. Okay. Oh, all day. Amazing. The audience already knows like"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "Flight of the Navigator is a solid solid movie. A kid who has like a psionics"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "relationship with like a UFO and like oh wow dude it is oh wow on the nose so many different ways."}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "They test him like they they literally hook him up to like um one of these things like an"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "oscilloscope and have him like move frequencies. Where did you hear that before? Dan Sherman. Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "What the [ __ ] Yeah, it's in that movie. Whoa. Yep. Yeah, there's all sorts of all sorts of"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "really interesting stuff in that movie. It makes sense, right? Like to what we were talking about, you really change"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "people's minds by making them feel, not giving information. And if you've already made them feel"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "something in a story that is close enough to what will happen, oh, you've already sim simulated that reality for"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "them that when it actually happens, the reaction is not going to be as jarring or as as intense. So I think softening"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "the blow has been the name of the game for Hollywood for the past seven years. Definitely and and I think you know Disney not"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "because of Elio because of other things Disney has had like a big a big role in that and uh"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "and Spielberg has had a big role of that. Someone like I don't know James Cameron was he made Abyss right? Yep."}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "yeah, and you know, I feel like we're just the new generation that is doing it, not because someone in the"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "government is being like, \"Oh, this is the deal. This is we'll give you access to these whistleblowers.\" But, you know, like we're just we're just doing it"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "because we're genuinely following our curiosity and, you know, we get to do it in ways that is so creative and so"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "innovative. Like, we are putting our art Yeah. an artistry into being able to tell these stories in a way that in like"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "movies make people feel things and make give people a sense of you know entertainment and and um enjoy watching"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "something and I you know as I said that's why I really respect what you've what you've come to add to the space and"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "and uh and yeah man I I I take a lot of inspiration from that going into this next stage and and you know building"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "what I what I want to build. Yeah. I'm excited to see it. I'm excited what you know to see cuz you're also a"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "very creative thinker and you know it's it's just always nice to be able to as a"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "creator get inspired you know by other like-minded people who you know have a"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "different angle to things. So I mean you know there's that's the other thing too like collaboratively"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "you know we're going to get way further. If you look at the history of man all of our innovations have come from"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "war. All of our tech technological innovations have come from war. We're extremely good at killing people. Like"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "that's what we're humanity is unfortunately really good at. Yeah. And you know, very creative in finding"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "ways to do that. I'd like to imagine once we get past all that how faster and"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "exponentially faster we grow technologically speaking when we collaborate"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "when we figure out that like oh we you know it's not always sword sharpened sword"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "like we don't have to do that and once we get past that I think I think that's"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "if there is a space fairing civilization that's you know left their own solar"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "system or their own planet they've gotten there because they've stopped war."}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "Yeah. And maybe that's the great filter that was, you know, being referred to by um"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "um Fermy. Yeah. Is it Fermy? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the great filter is to get past"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "that point of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And uh I don't know where I heard that,"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "but I heard it yesterday or this morning. Maybe that maybe our purpose was not create the nukes, but uh"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "Yeah. I said like Yeah. Maybe the uh get rid of them. Yeah. Like like a prime directive. Yeah. Instead of having that prime directive"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "be, oh, you discover warp drive or you discover nuclear warheads, it becomes,"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "oh, you've discovered nukes and now you throw them away. Yeah. You've risen above it. That's where they're like, hey, welcome"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "to the family. Yeah. And again, that maybe that's why they have the the just the deep interest in"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "our nuclear installations and anything. And we were close with Kennedy. Yeah. That's as close as we got to to,"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "you know, with JFK. You know, speaking of nuclear and presidents, this is relevant. We're in Canada. Um, do you know that Jimmy"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "Carter responded to the biggest nuclear disaster in North America here in Canada and he was one of the engineers that"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "they got dropped down to the the core of the reactor that was that messed up and"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "he was radioactive for like couple of months after. No way. So when you think about he so"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "Jimmy Carter is a nuclear engineer right if there's any US president that is going to have a sighting"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "who would it be a nuclear engineer like when I when I when I connected the dots I was like oh my god it makes so much"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "sense not once he sees it twice and and uh and I think as looking at US"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "presidents as someone who's like really put peace and and and cooperation at the forefront of of policy"}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "he was he was definitely someone that did Yeah. Yeah. May May his soul rest in peace. And I know that he wasn't revered as"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "like the a great president, but I just think in terms of values and in terms of like someone who's like lived up to to"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "to such great values to the very end of their life, he was if ever there was a president to make contact. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "Might have been it. Yeah. Yeah. I I I fear,"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:51", "text": "you know, throwing a world leader in front of an extraterrestrial. You know, we think of initially I think of"}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "Eisenhower, the militarized, you know, industrial complex. Well, you know, a crazy connection that"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "I also like couldn't get over when I started learning, when I got into the topic, I came to America for the"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "first time through an invitation by Mary Gene Eisenhower. Whoa. His granddaughter."}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "Whoa. Yeah. And she just started this nonprofit called Peopleto People International. and in my small town in"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "Sedat City in Egypt. Maybe maybe her daughter's into his daughter or his granddaughter. One of them. So, I'm talking about his granddaughter"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "now. Okay. Cuz she's she's old. I mean, she was in her maybe 50s or 60s 10 15 years ago."}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "But, um yeah, I that was like I was representing Egypt and and I went to"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "Colorado, Colorado Springs. Yeah. Which is like also weird. Yeah. Um, but"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "I just always found it to be like such a a wild coincidence that I like my first"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "time in America was because I was, you know, participating in her in her nonprofit that was about connecting"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "people and all these years later I, you know, I discovered that maybe her"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "maybe you've been ushered into this disclosure thing and you don't even know it. Your path has been chosen for you."}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "Yeah. But I I do think his his speech his you know feral speech is one of the most important and slept on"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "terrifying. Yeah. Like I think if anything it's that speech that makes me think that he did"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "that something happened during his time and they and the military industry complex"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "acted in a way that completely put humanity as like humanity's interest on"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "the side. And I think that just really really scared him on his way out. And"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "I mean, yeah. Only scared him when he lost power. Yeah, true."}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "Yeah. Could have. When you have power, you you kind of don't see it, I guess, or you're you're part of the machine. You're part of the game"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "and you're out and you go, \"Wait, what have I done? What's going on here? This is dangerous.\" Yeah. It's one of those things, man. And"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "like, you know, it's Cold War era. So that's, you know, I I don't have a hard"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "time blaming them for covering that up back then. You know, coming from what had happened"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "at the Manhattan or the uh yeah, the Manhattan Project and like all that stuff,"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "they were sworn to secrecy and because of that were deemed heroic."}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "And so that mentality kind of didn't go anywhere. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "that was still the mentality post war that if you were read into a secret compartmentalized special access program"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "that you were considered heroic and that patriotism is what covered up a lot of that stuff for a lot of years,"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "you know, and now it's starting to wayne. I think it's starting to, you know, rip at the seams because"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "people the more patriotic thing would seem to to protect the people and not"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "just the military's interest. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, man."}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "So, out of all the pe like you've met some really, you know, for someone just getting into the space as well, you"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "know, you've gotten to through, you know, knowing Jesse, you've gotten to meet David Grush, you've gotten to hang"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "out with Lu Alzando, with uh Beatatric Villa, Villa Royale, Valia,"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "Villa, Via Royale, Veralia. Okay, close enough. Um, you know, you"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "got to meet all Yeah. all these Diana Da Woods Whitley like just so many of the"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "people that define my journey and like looking all this stuff. Yeah. Um even Jake Barber."}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "Yeah. Um aside from David Grush,"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "who was someone that really rocked your world? Mario Woods. Mario Woods."}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "Yeah. I think maybe because there was a connection to Egypt there where he just um for context, but I mean"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "his story is so wild that you should just check out Jesse's video that he that he did on him that Mario Woods was"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "a sec a nuclear security officer uh protecting uh a nuclear installation."}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "It's called November 5 in was it Montana? November 5 is an"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "interesting thing. Yeah. again. We talked about that. Yeah. Yeah. Fifth. Remember the 5th of November?"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "I I watched last time I watched that movie, I watched it with Jesse. I think I didn't stop crying for like 10"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "15 minutes after. It hit me so [ __ ] deep. And again, I like for context, too. I, you know, I'm I'm a"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "child of the Arab Spring and the Egyptian revolution. And it was, you know, I was the most defining pivotal"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "years of my life were were then I had so much hope for like political change to happen through, you know, people"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "mobilizing and coming together. And so I get very uh I get very affected by"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "stories of of of revolution and and revolutionaries and people, you know, sacrificing for a greater cause."}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "So Mario Woods. Mary Yeah. Thank you for Thank you for welcome. So for uh Oh, yeah. I went on a tangent"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "about November. Yeah, I that was me. That was my fault. That was my fault. I hit you with the November five. I My brain, you know,"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:08", "text": "connected Travis Walton's thing when Bob Lazar came. It's all fifth of November and then you have November 5 and I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "what is going on? Maybe I'll just keep it I'll keep it light. But also yesterday or two days ago. Yeah. Yeah, true. Um, Mario Woods,"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "nuclear security officer, one night as he's guarding one of the nukes, uh, he"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "just has this incredible encounter where Missing Time, all the classics, Missing"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "Time, big object, massive describes it as a sphere the size of a Walmart,"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "hovering 10 ft above where this nuke is, where like the door would open and and"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "then the thing the the orb whatever that sphere was like activates the nuke and"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "like the door starts opening and then he's immediately starting thinking about like the procedure for what he does to prevent the like he was going to go"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "drive his truck over that door so that when the door opens it the truck goes down on the on the missile guidance"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "system and and the and the and the ICBM doesn't go like you know it's the scary situation that you could find yourself"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "in as a nuclear security officer you have a nuke that is going on online so"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "um there was just something so first of all he's just a sharp man who, you know,"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "you would never guess he's 70 years old now. Like you'd be like, \"This man is early 50s and it's just like,"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "you know, you can just feel the life force, which also makes you think like of course that's the guy they would pick to protect nukes, like the crown jewels"}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "of American of of defense in the world.\" Yeah. Um, he was just so sharp and lucid,"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "remembered things so clearly, you just felt like he was like a no [ __ ] guy. And then I think the the other thing"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "that I think made it more of a personal experience is that he started never really had interest in the pyramids or"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "Egypt, but after that experience, he started getting a [ __ ] ton of downloads about about Egypt. And he would see"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "hieroglyphics and yeah, a lot of dreams, a lot of like sort of like what felt like prophetic"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "dreams that he had and like journeys in those dreams that felt more vivid than regular dreams. Yeah. He"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "still acknowledges them as dreams, by the way. He doesn't say that they were like real, but you know, they affected him."}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. So, I just uh you know, I asked him if he had ever been to Egypt, and he said"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "no. And I just told him like I would be honored to just be the reason for him,"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "you know, to go to Egypt. So, at some point in the next few months, he was getting his passport. 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I just uh I for some reason I have"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "these like feelings that certain artifacts are going to call him in more than others cuz he told me the story"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "once about he visited a collector in the US uh like Egyptian artifacts colle"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "collector and apparently instinctively he went to like the oldest most"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "mysterious object in the entire collection. And it was like hundreds of pieces and the guy the collector found"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "it to be very odd that he just like that's the one that he knew. Yeah. So, I just um again go back to the"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "question, I just found him to be super sincere and just very likable as a person and and I was very happy that"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "people that's that was like the main bulk of people's comments on Jesse's videos that"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "they they really liked him and I could just it was like a really amazing sometimes you talk to people and you"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "really have like a positive reaction to them in the moment like sitting with them but maybe on camera it doesn't you"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "know it doesn't translate as But with him, it was just like equally as good in person as it was as it was on camera."}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "He's just a stud, you know, like Yeah. He Yeah. I I spoke to him. Um Jesse introduced me to him and I spoke"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "to him over the phone one night for like 3 hours. Yeah. I I like I was I was in I was in"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "my pool and um I I see the you know I see the text like I was like I'm going"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "to call him right now. See who's up. Let's call him right now. And we just stayed on the phone for like three hours. I was all I had all my"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "wrinkly hands afterwards. doesn't pull I I could walk away. Yeah, he's the most fascinating guy. U you know, no BS, just"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "very um yeah, I mean to be in that line of work by the way, it's not everybody who can"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "do that because it's the the the the standards are so high and the testing is so rigorous and you know making sure"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:41", "text": "that you're sober of sober mind is like imperative because you're in charge of"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "the most dangerous thing in the world. Yeah. You have within your"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "line of sight something that can destroy the entire earth and everything on it"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "forever. Did you watch there was a movie recently Dynamite Room or something? Not yet, but I I heard that the DoD did"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "not like Really? Yeah. Yeah. They had they went out they made a statement. They said that that"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "that is not like it would never happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it scared the crap out of me. Like"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "it is scary. Yeah, you see this like scenario, right, of this doomsday scenario and you see see"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "it from like three points of view is essentially the movie and"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "wo if it is anything like that, we're not as safe as we think we are. And that"}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "is terrifying. Like when you see that and like somebody describes it as hitting a bullet with another bullet is"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "what we have to do to like stop these things, you're like, \"Wait, what? I thought you guys had this locked in.\""}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "And so I can understand why the DoD would not like that. Yeah. I think it was something it was a specific reference around I think they"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "mentioned a stat in the film about like our air defense against 60%. Yeah. But they came and negated that."}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "They were like know everything that we have going. Yeah. Yeah. But of course you would say that. Of course. Yeah. Of course you even in"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "the movie there's a there's a guy I don't want to give too much. There is a guy like you know higher up a general or"}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "whatever and he's calming people down in the other room and he's like I don't know. It's just a glitch on the screen or whatever. Don't worry. Yeah. for"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "America, you know, we got this. Um, but yeah, it it's terrifying. So, yeah, let's uh let's definitely take"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "Mario Woods to Egypt and get to just ex experientially live that with him and ask him more about his uh"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "about his story. I had some I had some like Egyptian um sightings in my DMT trip, too. So,"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "Oh, no way. Ah, then okay, let's definitely let's go. What about you? Who's someone that you've talked to that"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "really left an impact? H"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "I got I I think you know a lot of I think a lot of people have Okay. Um"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "I'm trying to I mean I'm trying to pinpoint exactly who I could say"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "cuz a lot of them have. Um,"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "I would say I mean Peter Curry was"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "I think one of the most impactful because again um I would rather talk to"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "a farmer than a lawmaker. Yeah. in this in this category. And Peter Curry,"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "you know, not just like everybody else in the world, not without his flaws. And he's"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "human. And when you talk to experiencers, as a magician, I'm aware"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "that things might not always be as it was. And that's not their fault. 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Incredible people and don't did didn't"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "know about each other's story cuz these aren't in print like and you know they're telling me the same details of"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "how that went down and then seeing him break down. 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And um"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "it to me would if anything would mess you up more so than having a a sample"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "taken or you know doing something weird to your privates or like whatever that"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "is. I think being shown what you believe"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "to be your offspring Yeah. on an alien ship that looks, you know,"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:47", "text": "it's got a big head and stuff like what are you even saying? Yeah, like that's got to mess you up forever,"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "dude. And and in any in any context, you know, whether whether if if you if what you're seeing"}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "you take to be true, then that will mess you up. Yeah. And so, yeah, I think I"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "think that one, but anytime I hear an experience or even Travis Walton, um,"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "anytime I hear somebody who's experienced something,"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "um, Joe McMongle, I think, you know, even though Joe tells story, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "he's a good storyteller. Yeah. Um, he's got a lot of receipts. Yeah. You know, Dr. Edwin May was another one"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "who, you know, really blew blew my mind and Yeah. So quite quite a few. Yeah. Another another person that"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "definitely left a massive impact was was Robert Hastings. Yeah. UFOs and nukes just as like one of the most referenced,"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:43", "text": "you know, hardheaded empirical like evidence that you can give to whatever"}, {"start": "01:39:43", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "engineer you're talking to that doesn't believe that something happens. Like that's usually a big reference that I"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "give. and getting to talk to him and and"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "getting even getting to know more than than what is mentioned in UFOs and"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "nukes. Yeah. Um about his own personal experiences. Raise your conviction level even higher."}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um, it actually made me"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "made me realize that the people have come forward, they still it's most likely that they haven't told"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "us everything. Yeah. Because Mhm. If they tell us everything,"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "they got nothing left. They got nothing. No, not that they even got nothing left, but they just they're"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "almost trying to manage the way someone will receive the information like Oh, yeah. like some parts of this are"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "almost too extreme to be mentioned and they and they they keep it up."}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "So So for instance, like the fact that he's had the people that"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "have come up to him to self-report that they've had close encounters of the third kind post their military"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "installation encounters was was pretty high. And he's pretty high conviction"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "that it's it's way more people than than the ones that self-reported. you know, seeing something and interacting with a"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "light or is different than, oh no, I end up on the craft. Not just that, that craft"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "continued to come and visit me for the years that followed. Like that's a different story. 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I"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:47", "text": "mean there's so so so many police officers. I mean you're telling me too some of the calls that you're getting."}, {"start": "01:42:47", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "Yeah. The ones that play at the beginning of episodes which by the way I freaking love. Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "I have thousands. Yeah. There's thousands of calls, which by the way, I think, okay, maybe you guys can encourage Chris to to do"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "this, but I think the cases that he finds interesting, if he does a followup"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "just on the phone, like from the scale or from your desk, I would watch that. Yeah. Cuz in my mind, I feel like it'd be"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "pretty light conversation. And also knowing that, well, this person, I'm only like listening to them through"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "their voice. Their their face is not on. They don't really have much to to gain. I'll try I feel like that could Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:29", "text": "maybe one that Dude, I'm down. I'm down to do fun things. Yeah, I'll do one. I've got I've already got a"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "few in mind. Okay, amazing. I would have to clear it with them. People don't want to be, you know, but if it's over the phone, maybe they'll"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "just like Yeah, you just change the pitch of their voice and and have them just like put the names in"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "different with aliases or something. Sure. Um Yeah, cuz there's some wild stories out"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:52", "text": "there, dude. Like I play I a lot of people get upset and they're like, \"Why'd you cut it?\" I'm like, \"It's a minute. It gets cut automatically and I"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "like it. I like it that it's like, oh yeah. Oh, and then if you want to follow up, you just and it shows you how many people are out"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "there and how many stories are out there. For me, what really hit me is after we"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "put the grush piece, I started getting uh DMs from around the world. Y um and then I made it I made a point in"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "all my travels with yes theory and asking people in the places that I travel to that are very far and off the"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "beaten path whether it's I don't know uh Yakuchia in in in Yakutskin Yakuchia in"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:29", "text": "like in Siberia and Russia you know or Kazakhstan near the nuclear testing site"}, {"start": "01:44:29", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "and I I have a I have like an eight out of 10 hit rate with just complete strangers that are not at all connected"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "to like in different places. People have stories. People have seen things. their parents have seen things like I one of"}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "the he was a yes theory subscriber that came and very kindly you know greeted us"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "into Kazakhstan and and I as I do I just talk about the phenomena talk about this"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "and and he told me when I watched that video in the Birkers it was the first"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "time he remembered something that his mom said when she when he was a kid about something that she went through that he never believed and kind of"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "dismissed but that video was the reason he went back to his mom and asked her about the experience and it was a"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "classic abduction experience in Kazakhstan just like back in the day. Everybody's got a story, man. Yeah. Which is by the way Kazakhstan"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "also the reason I asked there because it's where the most nuclear tests on Earth, you know."}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "I didn't know that happened. The most density in any places. Um Yeah, that would be a hot spot then,"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "wouldn't it? Yeah. Oh my god. So, so yeah, I just uh there's a follow-up video in Kazakhstan"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "to be done. Yeah. Oh man, I I mean the amount of follow follow-ups if I if I were to just"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "like fully track, you know, trace the Kazakhstan is a wild. I never thought of"}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "that. That's that's incredible. Where would you go? Where would you go if you had like top three spots to go that are like obscure?"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "Oh, you know what? Something else on Kaz on Kazakhstan. So, we were interviewing"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "for the episode that we did there. It was about the nuclear testing site. Um, we interviewed some of the people that"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "participated in that were around serving during that time and I remember it just hit me. The"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "reaction of one of them when I asked about UFOs was so like"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "shut down, firm, no, like as if felt like immediately like, \"Oh, that's a that's an order that you had a long time"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "ago that you immediately kind of like fell back into and you were like completely shut down the the the topic"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "cuz one of the people that I talked to was uh one of the people responsible for dismantling the last nuke out of this"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "out of the Soviet Union.\" Wow. Um out of Kazakhstan at least. What a job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I highly"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:49", "text": "recommend that also the episode if uh feel like good good intersection point with with the audience."}, {"start": "01:46:49", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "Yeah. I I'm going to check it out. That's wild. Where would you say what are two other"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "countries that you would like to investigate that are obscure that are not like super, you know, wellknown?"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "Um, I would like to go to where some of the tribes that have"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:17", "text": "lore around African tribes. African Yeah. that have lore around Mhm. Um,"}, {"start": "01:47:17", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "aliens or Y or beings. Yeah. There's uh there's reptilian Yeah, there's ant whispers of like Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "the ant people. There's like the reptilian stuff too about there's also isn't the where was"}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "where's the tribe where where was the the the country that had the like the ark of the covenant was that Ethiopia?"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. There's some stuff there as well. Um and then the other one is just because I'm curious. I'm you know"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "Egyptian born and raised Egypt. I have not heard any stories out of Egypt and I"}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "but that feels odd like I think it's true. I think uh I think there's something there. I also maybe again it's it's a"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "bit of a tangent but I do think that the true history of Egypt is very much connected to disclosure. Yeah, Egypt"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "would be Egypt would be a cool place for me, you know, going back to my my homeland and especially now every time I"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "go back, I'm like going to a different museum to just look at the artifacts and look at what's written and what's depicted and and I'm looking at"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:23", "text": "everything with such a new a new light and the light with what we know about or the little that we know about nature"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "of reality or or you know potentially ancient civilizations open moment times"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "of open contact maybe that allowed us to potentially have the technology to be able to build these things that today we"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "don't even know how they, you know, how they did it. I feel like uh yeah, there's a like I've always had a"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "connection to the pyramid since I was a kid. Like a big part of my story with Yes, connected to the pyramid and"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "attempt to climb the pyramid when I was 19 becoming the first person to ever get illegal permission to do it."}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "But then like because of corruption I get prevented and then 10 years later I you know managed to like skydive over"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "the py. So the pyramids has always been a part of my story. It's like I am who I am today because I grew up half an hour"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "away from it. And it was always to me that's like the sign that you can do the impossible. Like affected me to the to"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "my the deepest part of my core. And uh and I just have a feeling that it's"}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "that Egypt's history, Egypt's true ancient history is connected to"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:30", "text": "the true nature of reality way more than we um way more than we think."}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "Yeah, I agree with that. I think a lot of people would agree with that too. In what way that's to be determined. Yeah. In what way that's I I think in"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "just in the way where we've already lived a chapter where open contact wasn't."}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "Yes. And and it's not what you think. And it's not what you think. Exactly. It's not like uh maybe not so nuts and"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "bolts, you know. I think a lot of that is like astral traveling and Yeah. Obviously the use of like"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "psychedelics too. Psychedelics, vibration chambers, uh meditation chambers, like things like"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "that. I think yeah definitely they were on to something and and it was working um it was working a lot more than you"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "know whatever came after them and for me what I always found odd is just the you know the natural life cycle"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "of a civilization you kind of you go like this you start from somewhere you get really good and something happens at"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "your peak and then you kind of the downfall happens with ancient Egyptian civilization it's it's weird kind of starts at the top"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "with the most impressive things being presented and then throughout time it just kind of"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "Yeah. It almost seems like they discovered that first one. Yeah. And then they try to replicate it. And weird. Exactly. Weirdly too, you"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "look at the the artifacts of the families that come later and they just feel like copies of"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:48", "text": "replicas, a cheap replica. Yeah. Exactly. So, yeah, there's um it see it seems like it and and that's"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "not above us or beneath us rather to discover something and build on top of"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "it. We've done that over and over and over and over again. So like if you find ruin somewhere, you say, \"That's a good foundation. We can build on that.\""}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "That's been done throughout history. So, you know, wouldn't put it past Egyptians uh"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "discovering ancient Egyptian stuff, you know, or ancient Egyptians discovering ancient ancient Egyptian stuff and being"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "like, \"Hey, yeah, we can use that. Let's build on that for sure.\" So yeah, I just um yeah, between you"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:24", "text": "know some of these African tribes which by the way I really like that point and the episode's book encounters the most"}, {"start": "01:51:24", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "recent one which is the fact that we seek this um we look we look at"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:35", "text": "disclosure with a very western perspective as if it hasn't happened for indigenous people in other places. It's"}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "like a very, you know, single perspective only here. No, it needs to happen within these parameters of, you"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "know, getting certain evidence and it being within the scientific framework. Yeah. So that we can like deem it true."}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:51", "text": "But no, people have been on earth for freaking, you know, millennia and they've had their own culture and their"}, {"start": "01:51:51", "end": "01:51:58", "text": "own stories that describe these things. And I just want to interact more. I think I just I'm so after all these"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "years in the US and you know spending a couple looking at all these whistleblowers and meeting people. I'm"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "just so tired and done with with that part of disclosure."}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "I re I want to be out taking Mario Woods to Egypt. I want to be going to, you know, Norway and Sweden with Jesse to"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "like, you know, chase stories there. And like that I feel is is the is the path"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "to true disclosure. Definitely. And it's so empowering and it's like that's why I get so freaking excited whenever, you know, you or Jesse"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "put out something that just feels truly, you know, groundbreaking and and just like moving the needle for so much cuz I"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:39", "text": "always think always and maybe now that I know the the demographic of the audience, maybe I'll"}, {"start": "01:52:39", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "think of it less, but I always think of just like there's some PhD candidate that was watching this cuz I've we've"}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "had that during the the public hearing with Grush. Sure. like this, you know, yesterday subscriber that came, she was a PhD ken"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "physics and I could just see it live happening in front of me. I could see her worldview changing and potentially"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "maybe even the the subject of her thesis shift would shift because all because Dave has"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "just opened up her mind towards something and I always think about the chain reaction effect that we will never"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:13", "text": "get to know. We will never get to know who's the person that is watching that maybe will go to their lab and do an"}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:19", "text": "experiment based on just something that you on the in on the go. you said not thinking any anything of it and maybe"}, {"start": "01:53:19", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "that will create some sort of breakthrough that you'll never get to know that you're linked to it. So to me,"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "that's at the core of of of the of DS theory's message of of impact is to"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "activate that chain reaction effect because when you do something that is from you know the most authentic part of"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "you because you're curious or because you you know you you want to explore something that that has the power in"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "moving something in the someone else in the same way that gets them to do that in their own life. Yeah. It's a playful energy."}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "Yeah. And I uh so yeah, I always think about just like this path and these"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "conversations creating a chain reaction that we may never be able to track, but it's 100% is the path to this next"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "paradigm shift and to, you know, the awakening that I believe that we're going through right now. So, man, keep"}, {"start": "01:54:12", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "keep up the the good work and and I I'm, you know, we'll be here as as your"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:25", "text": "biggest, you know, fan. you and you and Jesse and everything I can ever do to support the the mission and and help"}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "grow it bigger. I'm I'm always here for it and I I really look forward to just like our collaboration on on um on"}, {"start": "01:54:33", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "what's next and however whatever way I decide to pursue this calling of"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "you know using my skill set to to create these access points for people to get to know about the phenomenon and get to"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "know about about disclosure and and go through their own journey to to get there. Yeah. I I really look forward to"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "I can tell man you're radiating. It's gonna be fun to watch and there is nothing like all my friends will will say that it is a topic that as"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "soon as I speak about it just comes to like my I have a friend my one of my best friends Kate just told me"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:14", "text": "whenever you speak I could just I almost visualize every chakra in you just fully alive because you're speaking from like"}, {"start": "01:55:14", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "every part of you and and I feel it and I and I you know I could be in the worst mood in the you know in a in a"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "so tired I don't even want to like talk anymore. more and as soon as the subject comes on, I just feel a fire inside of"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "me and I uh and yeah, I I I look forward to being able to harness that more into"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "into this calling, into this mission. Stoked. Stoked for you. Likewise. As some of you know, and if you don't,"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "uh becoming a member here or an intern as we call them, whether it's on Patreon or YouTube, you get access to a whole"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:52", "text": "bunch of cool things. And one of those cool things is the potential to ask our"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "amazing guests uh a question that you might have. And so we're bringing that up right now. Let's go"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:07", "text": "with the first one. Whoa."}, {"start": "01:56:09", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "Which is the least known but most credible alien encounter story you've"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "heard by Not Quite Human? Not quite human is his name. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. Great question."}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "Honestly, the Birkers, which is the story of how I got into into the whole topic, usually when I mention it to"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "people even in the subject, they they haven't heard much about it. And it's pretty historically relevant because it"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "was the first case to be deemed historically accurate. Historically true. Historically true. Um and"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:49", "text": "and you've got different people in different towns that that haven't met each other. Um that have had the same"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "experience, seen the same craft slashcrafts because it was one big saucer and then a bunch of orbs the size"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "of met each other. Yeah. And then they some of them remember seeing the other kids on top of"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "the craft. Um, yeah, that's a good So, yeah, I would say, you know, I don't"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:13", "text": "hear about it in in a lot like there it's not one of the famous cases, but I think it deserves a lot more attention"}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "just because of uh of of the amount of people that have had the experience of of you know, the interest of of even the"}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "UN in it after. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great one. And uh you know, northeastern United"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:31", "text": "States is a bit of a hot spot for all those. You have uh obviously the Betty and Barney Hill incident. You have the"}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "incident at exit which is also New Hampshire. So many so many so many cases. Um"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "I'm thinking Linda Cortiel, you know, the Manhattan abduction, Whitley Strers"}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "happened there. Like it's such a hot spot for alien abduction. Um but yeah, that's"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "that's a great one. And to be to be frank, like last night you you hit me with this and I was like you started"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "talking about this and I was like, you know, somebody sent me a message about this and it's the only screen that's open on my I'm like, it's so wild that"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "you mentioned this because I'm looking into this right now for a possible, you know, investigation read through. And I"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "had no idea, you know, self- admittedly, that you had made that video. And I don't know how"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "cuz I saw the grush video. Yeah. And I just don't know how it flew over my head and I thought, man, how"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "weird that I didn't until you mentioned and then I also have it on my computer and I"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "was like this maybe I wasn't meant to be fully briefed on that. So last night like after we I"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "watched your entire video I got Yeah, I had to. Oh, I'll have to I'll easily connect you with Tom Reed if you want to talk to"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "him. Melanie um could be could be a good skit person. Yeah, that could be interesting for"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "sure. Yeah, definitely. But you guys did such a great job on that. You know, you covered a lot of the angles. All right,"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "we'll go to the next one here. This is a really great question from Hex."}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "If you could visit an event in history as part of your seeking discomfort philosophy, what would it be?"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "the building of the pyramid. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a popular answer for that for time traveling. A"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:29", "text": "lot of people, yeah, I want to be a fly in the wall for that. Yeah. You know, well, you know, it'd be so funny if like you get there and you're"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "like, \"Oh, yeah, that makes sense.\" And they're just like this crazy pulley system. You're like, \"Yeah.\" So that or"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "like the operation control room at the Roswell crash or whatever first crash"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:50", "text": "happened in the US that we the control room like like I want to see like the freak"}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "out. Wow. So not even on the ground boots on the ground like where the crash is. No,"}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "02:00:01", "text": "I think it would be more interesting to see cuz I'm more interested in the response. Like I believe the like the I"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:07", "text": "believe what h what people say happened there that I'm I'm less curious about what actually"}, {"start": "02:00:07", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "happened because I feel like we're pretty close to knowing but I'm really curious to know what made them decide to go the"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "discourse that they've gone and and and know what everything that followed after cuz I really think it probably defined"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "so much. I mean the CIA was say and the air force was created right after Roswell like"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "it feels like it was pretty monumental moment in you know in in US history that"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "I feel like it would be it'd be pretty Yeah. No, that's a great that's a great"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "answer. Yeah. Um mine would have been Aztec. Ooh. Yeah. 16 bodies, an intact craft. Two"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "weeks to pull that craft out through where they pulled it because of the winching system and the sand and stuff."}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "They had to like pour these little slabs for the winch system which are still there. Wow. Like all the trees are"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "missing in that area where you've gone. I was I was booted on the ground with all the It is wildly convincing just the"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "terrain. Yeah. you know, and I'm I'm gonna let I don't want to give away too much because, you know, Jesse Jesse's"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "project. Um, it's it's an incredible I know that UAP"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "Gerb did a whole deep dive on it, but you know, with respect to Jesse's work, I think that's going to be the best"}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "thing on his channel. I don't maybe I'm biased because, you know, I helped direct it, but the story is, you know, it's funny. I"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:33", "text": "spoke to Suzanne Ramsay yesterday who, you know, Scott and Suzanne, they wrote some of the more, you know, definitive"}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "work other than Will Steinman on that crash and they spent a lot of their own money. Oh my god. Yeah. Over half a million"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "million throughout their, you know, 30 years or whatever it was of investigation. But yeah, that would have"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "been mine. Um, I can't wait for that video to be out. Yeah, same. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "Yeah. So much like I I know some of the things coming on your channel. I know some of the things coming on Jesse's channel. It is going to be a wild"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "winter/fall like Yeah. 2026 is 2026 is Yeah. Looking pretty nice. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "How has your philosophy of seeking discomfort evolved over time by Tess?"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "How has it evolved over time? So where it started to where it is now, what does seeking discomfort mean for you then and"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "what does it mean for you now?"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "Has it stayed consistent? it has stayed consistent. I think I'm just more careful with uh not pushing out of my"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "comfort zone into the panic zone. Um there's like a good buffer area where you're not where where a lot of u is"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "think of it as like the optimal zone of of of having high stress but not high stress enough that you burn out. Um it"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:52", "text": "actually has a scientific name I just forget like someone in 1902 came up with a theory for that sweet spot of really"}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "Yeah, that's interesting. Um, and have you guys ever talked about that? No, but it's going to be in in a book"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "that is is coming out. Um, which by the way, you can think of it also in the in the context of exercise. Like if you if"}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:11", "text": "you work out so hard that you you know you work out to tear your muscles in a way micro tears and that's how growth"}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:19", "text": "happens. But if you tear it so much then you're simply just damaging damaging your body. So I think learning the"}, {"start": "02:03:19", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "extent of discomfort where you're not in survival has been probably one of the"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:31", "text": "biggest uh like growing up elements of um that that has you know allowed the"}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "philosophy of seeing come for me personally to to evolve. Um and then"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "I love that. Yeah cuz it's because it is I think young you're just [ __ ] full sand just"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "like out of your comfort zone. No. Uh, you know, you're not really you're not"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:55", "text": "thinking about the Yeah. Seek discomfort, not dissociation. Yeah. Exactly. And you're not thinking about what you the the time that it"}, {"start": "02:03:55", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "takes to process an experience or or or the impact that you know going so hard"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "through an experience will will take on you will take on you. So would you would you say you're more aware of the benefits of seeking"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "discomfort now than you were before? like the mission stayed the same, but now you're like more more conscious of"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "all the individual lessons that you're picking up through these like you've you've appreciated seeking discomfort"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "more. Oh, for sure. For sure. And also showed me where I haven't sought"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:29", "text": "discomfort where I missed it. So, you know, for me, I feel like a big area"}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "where I where I missed it has been uh the discipline that some, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "the self-care habits habits take, whether that's, you know, exercise or eating well or mindfulness or just feel"}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "like I was always kind of like on the go. Didn't really prioritize that before. Took me a while, you know, it took me a"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "training for this marathon is the first thing that I've ever trained for in my entire life. Um, I like have a habit to"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "show up more for like the big moments and do it well and do it comfortably,"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:05", "text": "but don't really show up for like the prep work, you know? I I kind of fall short fall short in that. And I think"}, {"start": "02:05:05", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "see seeking discomfort for me now is realizing that oh saying that I'm just good at like you know the the big"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "moments is just a copout from you know fully putting the effort that it takes to prep for something which is a risk"}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:28", "text": "cuz you're you're raising the stakes now you've put time and effort into something. So I think yeah for me it's a"}, {"start": "02:05:28", "end": "02:05:34", "text": "I think seek discomfort has been a like a self-updating philosophy. you"}, {"start": "02:05:34", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "can't really get to the bottom and be like I have sought all the discomfort that I that I can see. Sure. Uh I've saw a lot of like intellectual"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:48", "text": "discomfort in my life, spiritual and being able to like define how I want to live and what values and and what is it"}, {"start": "02:05:48", "end": "02:05:54", "text": "my what what is my relationship to God? What is God to me? All these things. Um"}, {"start": "02:05:54", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "but as I said, not so much in like the phys the physicality of you know of this"}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "comfort of pushing pushing my body. That's great. Yeah. So there there has been an evolution"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "for sure. Um, but it's it's uh becoming more selective, right, with it. Well, it's almost like you it's it's"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "interesting. It's like any anything else, you know, um with mastery. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "Whether it's, you know, learning slight of hand or learning how to be a comedian or it takes practice, it takes mastery."}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:29", "text": "And seeking discomfort, I don't think is is um I I think it falls into that"}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "category as well. It's a skill. Yeah. And it's a talent that you can excel at."}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "Sure, you can do at any point. Anybody can throw a basketball through a hoop, but you know, as you get better at it,"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "you learn to appreciate it more. Yeah. The art in it, the the your own arc"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:53", "text": "within it, like all of these, you know, fun things to appreciate. So, um, lastly, we got a we got a cool"}, {"start": "02:06:53", "end": "02:06:57", "text": "question here for the last one here."}, {"start": "02:07:10", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "Last one's by Jesse Michaels. When are you starting your UFO Earth Embassy channel and fulfilling your destiny,"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "Jesse Michaels? Well, I did about"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:30", "text": "two hours and 30 minutes ago. I have created the the channel and I'm not sure"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "I want to I want to say its name right now. Sure. Yeah, it's fine. You can keep it. Um"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "but it's uh I am doing it. It's happening right now. Um so Jesse, I know"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "that he's been he's been one of the people that have been just the most supportive and you know guiding in in"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "that process of of making that leap and and and going for it. So yeah, I I"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:02", "text": "really I really appreciate the role that he's played and the amount of things that he's included me in, the people"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "that I've met because of him. Um, so yeah, the answer is it's already"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:15", "text": "happening right now, but 2026 is when it goes out to the world. Amar, it's been amazing talking to you."}, {"start": "02:08:15", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "Would you like to We'll take a quick break. Would you like to stick around for the for the extra chat? Absolutely."}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:26", "text": "All right. I do want to ask you, and maybe this is something, you know, I'm going to get reamed here in the comments, but I do want to ask you about"}, {"start": "02:08:26", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "a few sightings you've had, okay? Um, you know, and and unfair to the unfair to the current audience. So,"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:38", "text": "actually, before we head out, um, one last one last thing. You've had a few"}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:44", "text": "sightings. Yeah. Can you three sightings? Can you give us Can you talk about one? Yeah. Right now,"}, {"start": "02:08:44", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "I'll talk about the most recent one just because it it's the one that lasted the longest. Um, I mean they're the first"}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:58", "text": "two are like a split second of seeing something. So I always call them like a half a half sighting. Um, but the three"}, {"start": "02:08:58", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "of one was in Venice. I saw the fastest moving object in the sky at night. Uh, far self-illuminating, not blinking with"}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:11", "text": "my eyes just stre across the sky. Not a shooting star. I could see the I"}, {"start": "02:09:11", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "could see the object the entire time. It's one that was the second time. The first one was when I was at Lou's house"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "in Wyoming with Jesse. Um, and Jesse mentioned it. Yeah, Jesse mentions that sighting before, but we we both we both"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:32", "text": "saw like almost the end of a green fireball shooting off the horizon up, but like we caught it at the"}, {"start": "02:09:32", "end": "02:09:37", "text": "very last second. We we both saw this. We both saw the same thing, but again, a"}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "split second of seeing it. The last one was two months was a month and a half ago and I was in Dubai. I was watching"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "the movie Arrival in this like twoerson showing in the desert like it's like the"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "setup private movie theater setup and on the sand dunes under the under the stars"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "just like a Yeah. Yeah. Cla classic viewing experience. Yeah, it was it was a date. Um and"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "watched Arrival, one of my favorite movies. and and the entire time I was"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "watching I was just feeling so much and I prayed so much that something appears"}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:24", "text": "and then after the movie ended I was like oh let you know asked asked uh my"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:30", "text": "lady to you know go on the side and like do a take a video and as I was taking a video of just like kind of recording the"}, {"start": "02:10:30", "end": "02:10:35", "text": "moment she like freaks out goes what's that and then I I was looking at the"}, {"start": "02:10:35", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "phone and she's looking up but then I look up and then this object kind of like settles, stops in place and it just"}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "like stays there and it blinks erratically. Obvious Dubai is like massive u um like massive airspace. So"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:55", "text": "many planes landing and taking off. So I'm seeing other planes in the sky. I know that I'm not looking at a plane. So what she sees is she sees the object"}, {"start": "02:10:55", "end": "02:11:00", "text": "dart down almost from space and then and then stay stationary and where we saw"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:07", "text": "it. How far off the ground? Far. No. No. Pretty high. Yeah. And what color light was it?"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:15", "text": "White. White light. Yeah. And it was pulsating. It said pulsating but not with uh not rhythmically like it was off rhythm."}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "And how long was this sighting? Uh 3 to 4 minutes. Whoa. Yeah. You're sitting there staring at this"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:27", "text": "thing for 3 to four minutes. Putting my finger so I can actually so I can actually tell that I'm looking at something that is like in the same"}, {"start": "02:11:27", "end": "02:11:32", "text": "place. Um so yeah, I mean no sighting that is like"}, {"start": "02:11:32", "end": "02:11:37", "text": "a physical craft during daytime. And honestly, I think at the beginning of my"}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "of my journey, I was more obsessed with seeing. I actually wish for other"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "people, like for other friends that I have and other people that maybe have a harder time with it. I wish for them to"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "see it before I even get to see something. I don't feel like I'm I'm missing the You don't require that"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "the seeing part for me to Yeah. for me to be on board with this. Um"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:06", "text": "Yeah. Like I But first, I I really want it so bad. I look up all the time. Yeah, I'm always looking up."}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "But just at this point, I know that when it's when it's meant for me, it's going to it's going to happen. I'll give you a fun fact. First of all,"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "thank you for sharing that course and they appreciate it too before we hop into the, you know, the Patreon extras."}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "Um, a fun fun little fact is that, you know, you mentioned these 1800 number, the 1800 calls that I get."}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "I've compiled because I I do catalog them as well and I have a bit of a database there. Um, I'm a bit, you know, when it comes"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "to this stuff, I like doing it. I can tell. Yeah. All the archiving stuff. Yeah. Archiving. And um but I do have a"}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "a list ongoing of people who"}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:53", "text": "whose story starts with I was having a smoke. Dude, I have like 50. That is an"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:13:00", "text": "occurrence. Um, and I I think it has to I think like my personal own like view"}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:06", "text": "of the psychology of that is that you are finally looking up"}, {"start": "02:13:06", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "because when else would you just be standing outside looking up other than having a smoke and so so many"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "people are I was just lighting a smoke and then all of a sudden this thing and Yeah. Yeah. Exactly."}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "Looking up. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's just one of those things where like and that's why if you you know if you don't"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "know me I look insane but every time I get out of my car I usually stop and I look up for like 10 seconds and then"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:36", "text": "anytime I'm outside if I as soon as I go outside I scan and cuz that's where you're going to see it. Yeah. Right. And and it just goes to show you"}, {"start": "02:13:36", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "people having a dart smoking a cigarette smoking a joint whatever it is. They're seeing stuff and they're not even"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "looking up that often. So you know get out there look up. All right. Great final message for this."}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "Absolutely. Guys, go follow Amomar's journey. Go follow Yes Theory. Go follow"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "the future project that he's got going on. I'll leave all the links below. Thank you again, Amomar. And don't go anywhere. If you want to join"}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:06", "text": "memberships or Patreon, just click the join button below and you can be part of the extra conversation that we're about"}, {"start": "02:14:06", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "to have. Thank you and we'll see you on the next one. Much love."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "It isn't every day that we see a photo of an actual real alien being. Well, in"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "December of 1987, a police officer known only by the pseudonym Philip Spencer"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "crossed Illemore, a wide stretch of cold, isolated English countryside known for mist, silence, and the occasional"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "strange light. He carried a small 35 mm camera. And he wasn't hunting UFOs. He"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "was just taking photos of the landscape along the way to visit his family. But halfway across the moore,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "he saw something impossible. A small figure, pale, humanoid, moving against"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "the wind. Instinctively, he raised his camera and took a single photograph."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Moments later, he watched a silent metallic craft lift from the valley and vanished into the clouds. When the light"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "faded, he found himself elsewhere on the moore, confused with nearly 2 hours of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "missing time. The compass he carried now pointed south instead of north. And the photograph he brought back has since"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "become one of the most debated images in UFO history. Some call it a hoax, a"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "trick of light, a case of misidentification, but others argue it may be one of the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "clearest photographs ever taken of a nonhuman being. But here's where it gets"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "even stranger, folks. Despite the images fame, there are no known interviews,"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "recorded podcasts, television appearances, radio spots, nothing, not even decades later. His identity was"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "hidden behind a pseudonym likely to protect his livelihood as a police officer. And so he quietly faded into"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "obscurity. But today, his story survives only through written accounts by the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "researchers who spoke to him privately. So, what exactly did he see on that December morning? And why did he, the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "man behind the most famous photograph of an alien being, decide to remain anonymous?"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Let's take a closer look. Hey, my name is Bo. I'm from South"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Carolina. Um, this happened in Utah about four years ago. I was out walking"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "with my dogs and my wife at the time. We were out in the old decrepit park and uh"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "just, you know, enjoying the evening. It was nice and cool around 10 p.m. I remember I stopped for a moment. I"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "needed to light a joint. So, I pulled it out of my pocket, put it in my mouth, and I tilted my head back. And whenever"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "I did, and I did that so that the smoke didn't hit my eyes,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "I noticed five lights in a Vshape going directly over my headed north. I've been"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "watching the whole time choppers and planes come in and land here at Salt Lake Airport."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "It wasn't on ADF. It wasn't on radar. And it wasn't any of those planes and choppers."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "I was in the military and I don't know what those look like and it was none of them. Folks, welcome back to another episode"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "of Debriefed. My name is Chris Ramsey and today we are going to be taking a pretty deep dive into the case of the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "being photographed at Ilkley Moore. As I mentioned, this gained worldwide popularity and you can find a lot about"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "it online. There are many, many articles written about the Illemore incident. Today, we are going to be looking at one"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "written in the UFO Universe magazine winter edition of 1989."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "So, 2 years after this incident happened, here is a widespread writeup"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "in this edition of this magazine. Before we get into reading this, folks, if you don't mind, leave a like, subscribe, hit"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "that notification bell so you don't miss a video. And if you want, if you would like to support this channel, you can"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "either do so by becoming a member, check out our memberships. We got a ton of behindthe-scenes videos, a backlog of uh"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "uncut interviews and extra episodes already at the weight in our membership. 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This is the definitive"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "sort of article written by Peter How, I believe it's pronounced. And uh the the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "sub headline reads, \"It is very rare that the occupants of a UFO photographed. This may be the only photo of its kind known to exist.\" And"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "underneath it says, \"Alien,\" and quotes, \"Abduction on Ilkmore, a scientific inquiry.\" So"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "this gentleman that goes by the name Philip Spencer, potentially a pseudonym, not only allows himself to be looked"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "into, but also I think does a subsequent hypnotic regression."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "And out of that regression, I think some of the juiciest details of this case emerge."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "But let's begin our read through. Oh, I love this type of stuff. This is This is"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "it. Fired up. Dude, what time is it? It's 8:15 in the morning. I got here"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "like 7:30. I'm fired up. I couldn't wait for this episode. All right, here we go."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "This thing happened to me early on December 1st, 1987. It was still dark and overcast when I set off from home"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "around4 7 in the morning to cross the moors of East Morton,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "the village where my father-in-law lives. I carried my camera and compass with me. I was hoping to take some shots"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "of Oakley, looking down at the town from the Moore tops. The compass was a safeguard. Even though"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "I had made the 5m journey several times, it's surprisingly easy to get disoriented and lost up there,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "especially if the weather is bad. Rather than follow the established path, I took the shorter, though more arduous"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "route up the front of the steep hillside. As the ground started to level out, I"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "picked up a path which ran alongside a stand of trees. I was vaguely aware of a"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "humming sound, but I thought this was due to an aircraft hidden by the overcast sky. Then something caught my"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "eye. I stopped and turned. Looking into the huge hollow scooped out of the top"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "of the hill. About 30 ft away, I saw what I can only describe as a small"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "green creature moving quickly away from me. I thought, \"What's that?\" and"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "shouted, \"Hey.\" When it was about 40 to 50 ft away, it turned and seemed to be waving me off. I"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "quickly brought up my camera and took a photograph. Then I don't know why exactly."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "I jumped down the embankment and chased after it."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Well, okay. I like the cut of his jib. I'll I'll be honest. Uh"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "instinctively takes a photo. Most people would be too shell shocked or you know, you hear a lot of accounts of like, I"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "didn't even think about grabbing my camera. this guy did. And not only that, he's like, \"Get back here.\" I like the"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "idea also of the alien just waving him off, being like, \"No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop. Go away.\" Maybe he was up"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "to no good. Who knows? It didn't walk as much as shambled, but nevertheless moved"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "much more quickly than a person would. I followed it around an outcropping"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "where it had disappeared. There was a deeper hollow and an even bigger"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "surprise. I saw what I can only describe as a large object just like two silver"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "saucers stuck together edge to edge. Some sort of a box sticking out of the top was descending into the object. The"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "humming sound I had previously heard became quite loud and the saucer shot straight up into the clouds."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "I was too nervous to continue and came back down off the moors and back to Ilkley. I couldn't understand it. The"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "shops were open and the town hall clock said it was 10:00. It should only have been about 8:15."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "That's wild. It is currently"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "is 8:20. We started reading this at 8:15. How wild. Don't That clock is still an hour behind. So, don't mind"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "that. We got We're an hour ahead. Was I going mad? Then I remembered the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "photograph. There was a place in Kaye which operated a 1-hour developing service. I caught the next bus and"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "walked a short distance to the shop, taking a couple shots as I went. I suppose I felt guilty at wasting so"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "much film until I realized the futility of it. I returned to the shop later and there it was. The quality was poor, but"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "there was no doubt I had captured on film what I had seen with my own eyes."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Incredible, folks. This is what a story as a as a photographer. I've got my own"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "little uh Nikon here. Um I just started doing film photography. I got a little"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "FM2, bought it in Japan, and I totally understand the need to want to fill up a"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "roll because you do like why would you have a roll developed if it wasn't finished? You know, sometimes you just"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "you got three, four photos left, you snap them off, whatever it is, some could turn out to be gold. Uh, so I get"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that from a photography standpoint. It's a fun detail. And here we go. The above"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "account compiled from letters and recorded interviews was made by a former police officer. Without doubt, in some"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "quarters, the story will raise a few chuckles, and no wonder why. The UFO problem nearly always receives bad"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "press. This is not surprising either. The subject attracts more than its fair share of fantasyprone individuals who"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "want to believe in invaders from outer space and organized cultists who see every aircraft landing light and bright"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "star as a spaceship from Venus or Alpha Centuri. These people are fodder to the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "journalists for the naive space invaders headlines. 1989"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "you know the more things change the more they stay the same. The UFO subject is not like that. Let me tell you how it"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "is. When the reports have been sifted and 90% of them have been identified as either hoaxes, misidentified weather"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "balloons, aircraft landing lights, or bright celestial bodies, there remains a residue of reports for which there is no"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "known mundane cause. Within the residue, there is a growing body of experiences very similar to the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "one narrated above. This type of close encounter has surfaced all over the world from many different cultures"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "involving recipients from all walks of life including housewives, writers, police officers, professors,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "psychologists, farmers, and many more. Most of these people are highly embarrassed and anxious that their true"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "identities not be released to the general public, although some have risked the disbelief and ridicule and"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "come out into the open. The man whose story we are concerned"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "with here hopes to rejoin the police force at some future date. So as chairman of the Manchester UFO Research"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "Association, Muora, I respected his plea for anonymity. Because of this, I shall"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "call him Philip Spencer. Okay, so it is a pseudonym. And you know what's so interesting is that there are so many"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "police officers. Um, you know, I can think of Herbert Shurmer being one. I can also think of I"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "read a UFO magazine that I mean Lonnie Zamora is another one, but there was a UFO magazine that had like I think up to"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "20 on the record police officers that had sightings with either UFOs or beings."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Even the metalman, this is another famous UFO picture that we'll eventually dive down into. Um, you know, at first"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "it might seem like a guy in a hazmat suit or something of the like, but he swears that he chased this thing down in"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "his police car 35 miles an hour and couldn't keep up with it. But regardless, that man was also a police"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "officer. So maybe something about police officers either attracting the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "phenomenon or something about the bravery of these police officers and the idea that their"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "words can be sort of taken more seriously allows them to come forward."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "So how many people are not coming forward with these stories is the question. I digress."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "There was much more to Philip Spencer's story than the mere sighting of some distant object. Philip offered us some"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "tangible evidence to back up his claims, and the story itself proved to be much more comprehensive than his initial"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "account indicated. What makes Philip's story so different to other close encounter witnesses is that Philip has a"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "photograph which allegedly shows the green creature he met on Oaklmore."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "British researchers have long postulated that close encounter experiences were totally subjective, some kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "hitherto undetected mechanism of the mind. But here we had a hallucination"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "which could be photographed or did we? Was the entire affair a hoax?"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "We first received notification of the incident when the witness wrote to paranormal researcher and reports"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "coordinator for Muora, Jenny Randles, who is also UK editor for UFO Universe."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "The letter was dated December 3rd, just 2 days after the alleged experience. In a very matter-of-act way, the writer"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "recorded what he had seen and mentioned the taking of a photograph, and that his compass was now totally inaccurate."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Jenny's address had been discovered in the back of a book. And even though he had signed the letter with his correct"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "name, the address was a box number in Bristol, the town where his parents lived. At that point, he was wary of"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "disclosing his full identity, but encouraged Jenny to reply for further information. At a meeting, we advised"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "her to write up for further information, but the letter itself caused hardly a ripple amongst our members. Letters like"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "this have been received in the past promising photographic evidence. Almost always these photographs turn out to be,"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "in the case of UFOs, pictures of birds or aircraft seen at an unusual angle or"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "just crude hoaxes. Nevertheless, Jenny replied over the next few days, but was to wait a while before an answer. And as"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "a researcher, I can sympathize with that. The amount of DMs I get with"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "whether it's today now it's, you know, many of it is rocket launches, uh, Starlink satellites. Venus is still"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "pretty popular, especially uh this month and next month. Folks, forewarned, expect a surge of sightings,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "but don't be fooled. If a bright light during the day sort of hangs loomingly in the sky, it might very well be we uh"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "wenus. All right. It might very well be Venus."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "Uh, I think we call it wenus from now on if it's uh misattributed to a UFO. We'll"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "just say that's wenus. Don't worry about it. Already it seemed Philip was regretting his decision for clandestine"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "approach to his true whereabouts. He wanted to report the incident to people who investigated this type of phenomena,"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "especially as his wife found trouble in reconciling her husband's honesty with such bizarre claims."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "It was just too incredible to be true, wasn't it? At the library, he consulted the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "directory of associations and there discovered the name of Arthur Tomlinson,"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "a man who has studied the phenomenon for nearly 30 years. Philip phoned Arthur"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "sometime towards the end of December, and he went across to Ilkley right away with flying saucer enthusiast Steve"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Balon. The three men went up on the moore in the darkness, armed with flashlights to"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "visit the location. At Balon's request, Philip had no qualms in handing over not"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "just the print, but also the negative depicting the alleged green creature."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wonder where that negative is today. Probably still with"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "some UFO researcher. If you have access to that negative, I would love to"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "get, you know, a print done. That would be reach out to me. Just a few days later, Arthur phoned me"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "and began telling me about the case. I stopped and partway through as I realized it was the same witness who had"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "originally written to Jenny Randles a few weeks before. Apart from the photograph, there was also the compass,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "which Arthur informed me now was totally reversed in its polarity. Instead of"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "pointing north, the needle pointed south. I went up to Ilkley with the two"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "men on January 3rd. And this is no um"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "you know this is something that comes up time and time again as well due to perhaps the electromagnetic or"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "electrograidics that is used by the craft creating some type of"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "geomagnetic distortion in the area. Even time dilations happen. Uh perhaps what"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "happened in this case as well. Set off. I studied the color print made from the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Kodak color VR 400 ASA film Spencer had been using that day. I was both"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "intrigued and disappointed. The picture did indeed show a small green figure standing in a large hollow, but it was"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "grainy and lacking fine detail. However, it was possible to see it had a long"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "body, short, thin legs, and protrances at the side of the head, which could"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "have been large ears. The arms, too, were thin, but one of them at least was"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "exceedingly long because it rested on the ground, while the right one was crooked, tying in with Philip's claim"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "that it was waving him off. The compass was another matter. It did indeed appear to be exactly reversed. Although there"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "was no sign of tampering, we did speculate on the possibility of an optical illusion of polarity reversal"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "being brought about by simply painting the southseeking pole red. However, if"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "this was the case, then it could only have been done at the manufacturing stage of the instrument."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "When we arrived at the house, Philip and Susan, his wife, made us very welcome. Susan took their youngsters out of the"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "room while she made tea for and coffee for us. Philip Spencer, about 5'9\", had"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "a stout build and piercing eyes above a thin mustache. He was relaxed and friendly. Even so, I was prepared to ask"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "some hard questions. I settled on the carpet in front of him and switched on my tape recorder. My first question"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "referred to the photograph and the initial visit made by Arthur Tomlinson and Steve Balon."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "I commented that he had been very trusting to hand over not only the print but also the negative strip to two"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "complete strangers. He just shrugged. He said, \"I trusted them because they said they wanted to carry out some tests on"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "it. Although it's true, I would have been annoyed if anything had happened to the negative or the compass. I would"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "like to keep them as momentos of what had happened. Philip seemed very laid-back about his weird experience, as"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "if we were discussing something which had happened to a third person. He almost seemed to view the entire affair"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "with a degree of amusement. At this stage, there did not seem to be any emotional tie-in. I knew there were two"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "ways to look at this behavior. Many of the witnesses I have interviewed over the last 13 years seem to have an"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "underplayed emotional reaction to what they have allegedly experienced as if"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "this has been purposely suppressed perhaps to protect that person's sanity."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "The other supposition to explain the strange behavior was that for unknown reasons the case was a fraud. I tackled"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "him directly on this point. What would you say to someone, Philip,"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "who said, \"Come on, you've made the story up, built a dummy, taken it up to the moors, and photographed it.\" He replied instantly and without animosity."}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "\"I'm not particularly interested in what other people think. I know what I saw, and if people don't believe me, that's"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "up to them. I've got nothing to gain by doing that. I don't see the sense. I've got better things to do with my time.\""}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "The four of us went up to the site that Sunday afternoon. There was a chill in the air and it was"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "very windy. Above black storm clouds buffeted one another for room in the"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "overcrowded sky. This the birthplace of such English classics as Weathering"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Heights and Janeire seemed the perfect location for the type of bizarre experience Philip Spencer was claiming."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "I wondered what the Bron sisters would have made of it all. No idea who the Bron sisters are."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "I'm going to look that up. Who are the Bront sisters? The Bronx sisters."}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "No, no. The Bront. B R O N T E. Ah, got it. The Bronty sisters are"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "actually pretty famous in the literary world. They were three sisters from the 19th century. Charlotte, Emily, and Anne"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "Bronty, who wrote some of the most enduring novels of English literature. You might have heard of Jane Air by"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "Charlotte, Weathering Heights by Emily, and The Tenant of Wildfell Hall by They all wrote under"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "I see. Okay. I'm not much of the literary type, apparently, unless you're talking about UFO or science fiction."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "The 20-minute walk from where we had parked the car was a very arduous one, for me at least. The ground was muddy in"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "places, and on several occasions, the wind threatened to blow me off the side of the steep, uncompromising slopes. At"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "last, we were there. Philip went through the experience with us while we took photographs and measurements. The"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "distance from the camera to the small figure was 39 ft. We followed Philip down the slope along the path which led"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "around the spur of land where the creature disappeared. There, hidden from sight at the position from"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "where the photograph had been taken was a much deeper indentation in the ground."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "This measured at its widest point 31 ft. Here, according to Philip Spencer,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "had hovered a discshaped object with some sort of box sticking out the top."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "During this time, his first visit back to the location since the incident, Philip showed no fear of concern. He"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "vacated the hilltop with a rainy storm hot on our heels to begin our inquiries in earnest."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "The camera was an old 35mm Dixon's own brand model called a Prince Mastermatic."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "It was a very basic lightweight instrument without a focusing screen nor SLR facilities. A single lens reflex"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "camera, a system of mirrors which shows the user the image precisely as the lens render renders it. It had a 45mm lens"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "and although possessed an integral light meter, this had not worked for a number of years due to the camera being dropped"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "at some stage. composed largely of plastic. Neither the camera nor the film had been affected in any way by its"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "proximity to the silver disc. The exposure featuring the small figure was number 10 on a roll of 24. There were"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "only two shots taken after this one. One of some cars on the road and the other of Kaye bus station. As already"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "mentioned, these last two were taken because Philip felt guilty at wasting the rest of the film. The remaining 12"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "frames are all unused. I find that to be the most like"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "endearing detail of this entire story. I could just imagine him almost shaking"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "knowing what he has in his possession on this camera. You're just like, \"Oh my god, I can't believe this.\""}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "But I still got a half roll left. You're like, \"No, no, I got to get it to the shop.\""}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Maybe if I just and he just starts snapping away at these these random things."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "He's like, \"What am I doing? I have an alien on this camera.\" Way more important."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "A fun detail indeed. Considering the very basic camera design, plus the fact the integral light meter no longer"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "works, I was surprised when Philip showed me the other prints off the roll. Most of them were clear, well-composed,"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "scenic shots on taken on previous occasions. By far the worst shot was the"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "most important one of all. This was dark and very grainy. Why was this? According"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "to Philillip, he had preset the camera for the sort of low light conditions he expected on the moore."}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "Either the Monday night or just before he left that morning. The speed was either a 30th or a 60th of a second with"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "an aperture setting of 2.8, the camera's widest aperture, or four. Although"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "Philip was not absolutely precise. several months later uh which of these settings it was generally he had set the"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "camera with a wide aperture and a low speed together with a 400 ASA film he"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "was using probably ISO nowadays Philip should have taken a very good shot indeed in fact as we shall see later if"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "anything the resultant picture would have been overexposed rather than the other way around had the settings been"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "altered accidentally or without his knowledge perhaps he was meant to take a poor quality picture Certainly, the hoax"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "hypothesis does not fit here, as Philip would have no reason to claim he had preset the camera at all, just that he"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "was taken by surprise and snapped the creature without obviously taking the time or the nerves to check the"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "instrument first. Now, as someone who shoots film, that is definitely something I fear that if a UFO pops up"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "overhead that I'm sitting there adjusting, you know, for"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "exposure, etc. It's you don't have like a digital monitor to see what the shot looks like."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "You kind of have to go with a light meter. And so, yeah, that would be tremendously stressful. And, you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "even getting a roll developed today, I'm still unsure of what that's going to"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "look like, if I over or underexposed something, if something's in or out of focus."}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "Uh but developing a picture of an alien man no matter like you like for sure his"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "heart sank when he saw the photo. There is another anomaly too. Although"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "Philip believes the photograph was taken at approximately 7:45 a.m. the sky above the horizon is light. At that time on"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "December 1st the sky would still be very dark. A possible explanation was forthcoming at a later date. But there"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "was even more to the photograph than was at first apparent. even though Philip did not seem to notice it. To the right"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "of the creature is a box-like image situated above the outcropping and in"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "exactly the right place to coincide exactly where Philip allegedly came across the silver disc."}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "Hold on. Really? I had no idea. On January 11th,"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "Jenny Randles and I took the print and negative to Tony Marshall in Sheffield, a professional wildlife photographer."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "Tony has traveled the world taking shots for glossy calendars and books. He was not too impressed by the poor quality"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "and commented quite fairly that too many photographs of alleged anomalous phenomena are blurred and indistinct. He"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "placed the negative in a light box and studied it under magnification. He found a small scratch in the area"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "where the box appeared on the print. During the printing process, he speculated light could be diffused by"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "the scratch and cause the image to appear. Was this a partial explanation for the"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "strange images on the photograph? That's an interesting take to think that that's some type of light anomaly that we're"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "looking at. Mysterious strangers appear. Folks, this is where it gets or high"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "stranges interjects. As you would expect, on Friday evening, January 15th, my"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "telephone rang at 9:40 p.m. It was Philip Spencer. The normally placid ex- policeman"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "sounded very distressed. He claimed that just 50 minutes earlier, two middle-aged business suited men had arrived at the"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "house. They showed him identity cards with the letters mod printed across the top. So, Ministry of Defense. Underneath"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "were photographs of the men. Then beneath this, their names. Philip can clearly remember one of them, David"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "Jefferson, but the other one he remembers just as Davies. Davies was very quiet while his colleague did most"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "of the talking. They wanted to interview him about his UFO experience. Jefferson explained"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "Philip was so stunned he never asked them where they had found out about his experience. Although Mrs. Spencer was"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "aware of the men's arrival, she took no part in the conversation as she was busy seeing to her children. Philip related"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "the incident to them but without mentioning the photograph. However, when he had finished his narration, Jefferson"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "asked if indeed any photographs have been taken. Philip admitted that there had, but when"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "the man asked to examine it, Philip said that the material was with a friend. Strangely, the men did not pursue the"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "matter and left. The time was 9:20 p.m. When he spoke to me 20 minutes later, he"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "was worried that things were getting out of hand. He saw a situation where the sensationalist media would get a hold of"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "the story or his negative might become quote unquote lost and he would have no"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "proof then of what he saw. I reassured him that the negative was in safe hands and he calmed down."}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "This was to be shortlived. However, how had the men found out about his"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "experience as the four of us involved had sworn to preserve his identity? Were the men really from the mod?"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "I wrote the Ministry of Defense on April 6th asking some very pointed questions concerning the visit, but so far have"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "received no response. Of course, some people may have doubt that the visit had"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "even occurred at all, but I've spoken to Mrs. Spencer on two specific occasions regarding the visit, and she has"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "verified it both times. Mrs. Spencer seems a very sincere lady, and I have no"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "reason to doubt her word. visited by smartly dressed officials"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "have occurred many times to recipients of the UFO phenomenon. In 1976, a girl"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "in Bolton was interrogated by two such men while her abnomally pacified parents"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "looked on and did nothing. Harassment, too, has been conducted many"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "times over the telephone. At 8:55 a.m. the following morning, Philip called again. Now, he was even more upset and"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "in a highly excitable state. I've just had a phone call from someone claiming to represent Mirror Group newspapers. He"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "said they knew my name and knew about the sighting. When they asked for more details, I put the phone down on them."}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "I asked them what he did next. I phoned the Mirror Group in London and they didn't know anything about it. In"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "any case, they said if it had been one of their reporters, he would have given his name first. I want to know who's"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "leaked the story and given my ex- directory phone number to the press. I don't want this kind of publicity. You"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "know that there are only four of you have this information. One of you must be responsible. This time, Philip would"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "not be placated. He demanded the return of his compass and negative with an end to our"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "involvement in the case. After putting down the phone, I immediately contacted Jenny Randles, who agreed to check out"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "Philip's story as I had an urgent appointment elsewhere. Both of us were suspicious about all this. It all seemed"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "very timely. Only the night before, Philip had been speculating about the media finding out. Then just the"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "following morning, he receives a call from a national newspaper."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "I got back to Jenny later that morning. She checked with the mirror offices both in London and Manchester. They denied"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "having called anyone about a UFO story. In fact, their Manchester spokesman commented that even if one was put in"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "their lab, they would have done nothing about it. UFOs were not newsworthy that week."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "But perhaps even more damning, none of the staff could recall having received a call from a member of the"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "public making a complaint that morning. Jenny had put all this to Philip, but he was still adamant that it had all"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "happened. She managed to convince him that it was as much in his interest as ours to allow us to proceed with the"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "various lines of research we had planned. We could be forgiven for taking such a"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "critical look at Philip Spencer's claims. This was a most extraordinary case, even more so because of the unique"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "photograph. There are literally thousands of pictures depicting UFOs, nearly all of which are either"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "misidentifications or hoaxes, but only a handful claiming to show entities. There"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "are certain groups who have in the past deliberately seated false cases in order to discredit investigators at a later"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "date and thus discredit the subject in general. You don't say. I find this very"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "interesting as well. the fact that like right the next day he gets a call, you know, him declaring his sort of worry"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "about this going mainstream into some news organization and then the very next day receiving a phone call from one of"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "the largest news outlets allegedly. I guess the only explanation here would be that the the mod would be tapping his"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "phone at that time and then, you know, proceeded to maybe discourage him from"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "uh coming forward after witnessing his reluctance to do so in person the night"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "before. Philip just did not fit the bill of a lone hoaxer. He would not allow himself"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "to be photographed, and the last thing he wanted was his name and lights. Even less did he want money from the case. In"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "fact, he did not seem to attach any value at all to the photograph except as a record of his experience. I told him"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "point blank that fake or genuine, the picture and story could be sold for thousands of pounds to certain national"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "newspapers. But although he was not obviously financially well off, he just"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "shrugged his shoulders as if he did not care. I've seen that reaction many times"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "before in witnesses. The experience seems to affect them in a very personal manner and it never occurs to them to"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "cash in on it. I love that. I think that's definitely noteworthy. The"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "compass is examined. Dr. Raymond Leonard, head of the total technology department at the University of"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "Manchester Institute of Science and Technology, UMIST, arranged an appointment for us on January 19th with"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "a Dr. Spooner. Dr. Spooner heads the department of electrical engineering and electronics at UMIST and had agreed to"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "examine the compass. It was to prove a very interesting morning. In fact, we did not use Philip's compass"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "for the tests. There was no need. Arthur Tomlinson had brought with him another compass which was also reversed."}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "Apparently, while discussing the problem with a colleague at work, the man admitted that he too had a compass that"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "pointed south instead of north. This compass had functioned correctly when he bought it, but it had been kept in his"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "car. One day, he just realized it had become inaccurate. He freely gave the compass to Arthur, hoping we could find"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "a way of correcting it. To Dr. Spooner, it was a very interesting problem. Just"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "how could the polarity of a compass be reversed? Expert though he was at that stage, he had no ready answer."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "He began very simply by exposing the compass to some very strong magnets. But although they deflected the needle, the"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "effect ceased as soon as the magnets were moved away. A steady magnetic field had no permanent effect. Dr. Spooner and"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "his assistant then experimented with a rapidly applied or pulsed magnetic field. Eventually, it was found that"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "this indeed would reverse the needle and back again under laboratory controlled"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "conditions. This was fine, but could the reversal be"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "brought about without recourse to such expensive and complex equipment? Dr. Spooner showed it could, albeit with a"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "certain risk of life and property. A piece of wire was coiled around one"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "hand. Then the compass was placed within it. The ends were then connected to the"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "main electricity supply and a switch was thrown. There was a bang, but yes, the"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "polarity was changed north to south."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "This of course could be done in the house, although at the very least fuses would be blown and there was also the"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "more serious prospect of creating an electrical fire. Also, would Philip Spencer know how to carry out this"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "dangerous process when Dr. Spooner, an expert in his field, did not?"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "Dr. Spooner prepared a report for me, which in part said, \"It appears to be a relatively simple matter to bring about"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "the reversal without the need for any special equipment and may be accomplished in the average home or"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "garage. The intensity required is not great by some standards. In fact, we could not produce a field sufficiently"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "low as not to reverse the polarity of the needle. The minimum field we applied had a flux density of about 0.1 Tesla."}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "This is still about 2,000 times greater than the Earth's field. Therefore, the required intensity is very large by"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "other standards to leave detectable magnetization in samples of rock."}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "Dr. Spooner went on to say that perhaps one way of determining evidence for or against the claim would be to carry out"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "a magnetic survey of the surrounding rocks. If we accept the story at its face value that some sort of powerful"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "magnetic field associated with the craft had affected the compass, then it would assuredly also have affected the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "surrounding area. This made sense and it was another line of research we wish to"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "follow up. But then we were presuming that the compass had been affected near the ground. Later events indicated"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "otherwise, thus making the necessity for a magnetic survey almost redundant."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "Photographic analysis. Later that day, I traveled up to Rockdale to visit a firm"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "of screen printers with a very well stocked dark room. They had agreed to add their professional opinion to the"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "subject of the photograph. The director studied the negative and print skeptically. He thought the print was"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "too grainy, even for a 400 ASA film. He entertained the possibility that what we"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "were examining was not the original. That in fact it was a photograph of a photograph. There was some slight"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "flaring along the bottom of the print and partially up either side which he"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "speculated could be indicative of a badly placed source of lighting. He also noted that the print was slightly out of"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "focus. Some hoaxers have deliberately employed these techniques to hide details which"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "might give the game away. I asked what he made of the box-like"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "image. Now he was puzzled. He examined the negative under magnification in a light box, but in his opinion, he could"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "find no mundane reason for it to be there. Wonder what it is they're referring to. I'm going to take a look at that photo a little more. I can see"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "this photo here. I just don't understand which box it is they're referring to. A comparison with recent photographs"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "taken at the site using the same camera show that there is nothing in the natural formation of the ground to"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "account for this image. By making comparative measurements between the original photograph and the one"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "subsequently taken from the same vantage point, we were able to determine that the figures uh the figure is between"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "four and 4 1/2 ft tall. Peter Sururst at Kodak has given us his"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "expert advice on several UFO photographs in the past, so we were keen to solicit his opinion on this one, too. I spoke"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "with Peter on the telephone at some length, and he seemed quite enthusiastic. He asked to examine the negative and talked of the possibility"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "of computer image enhancement. I received his his report dated February 1st, which in part was disappointing."}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "Here is an extract. Any emphasis is mine."}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "It the exposure is underexposed by at least two stops. It is usual for these films to produce grainy pictures when"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "underexposed. The negative shows a degree of camera shake making it difficult to decide what the small"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "figure might be. Identification is made even more of a problem because of underexposure."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "I would not care to commit myself to any observation beyond saying that the film had not been interfered with after"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "processing. The blob you mentioned could be some reflection either in the lens"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "system or in the field of view. Is he saying the blob being like the"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "being with a head, legs, and arms? According to Peter, this was not a photograph of a photograph and the"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "slight flaring was due to poor quality of film processing. The figure, whatever it was, was actually there at the site"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "where it was photographed. Okay. So he's he's saying the blob might be the uh the box, I guess."}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "Square blob was interesting, too. As Philip Spencer was shooting to the west"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "with the sun directly behind him, then it would appear that something must have been there to cause the reflection."}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "Even if it was in the lens system, something had to reflect light. And the blob is in accordance to the box Philip"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "claims he saw disappearing on the top of the object. With reference to possible image enhancement, Peter had this"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "disappointing news to convey. I don't think that's so disappointing. I mean, the guy at Kodak is saying that whatever"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "is there is there. This is a physical thing that you have taken a picture of."}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "So, we completely rule out any lens distortion or what light play, what"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "have you, to account for this alleged being. Here's a photo. By the way, image"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "enhancement is a costly exercise, and I have some doubt about the benefits in this case. The size, distance of the"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "object, camera movement, and underexposure mean that there's insufficient detail available to enhance."}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "Oh, that's what he was disappointed about, I suppose. Now thing is today you can run it"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "through AI and I will do that but AI seems to add its own artifacts and it"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "doesn't really help. Image enhancing should be like smoothening. It shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "be filling in the gaps. Um so I don't think AI would be much much of a tool in"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "this case because it'll just misinterpret the image. You know, I don't think AI in this case would"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "benefit the enhancement. Maybe I I'll try it out"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "and we'll see what happens. I'll put it up here."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "Here we go, folks. We're getting in the craft. What does this thing look like on the inside? Very excited about this. I"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "have not read this far. I don't know anything about this. This is my first time reading this as well."}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "inside the craft. Even though hypnosis has been used extensively in American UFO cases where there appears to be a"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "missing slice of time, in order to explore what may have occurred during this amnesia, we decided in this unique"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "British case to follow up all the other loose threads first. Hypnosis, we conjectured, could be a final resort. If"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "there were any hidden memories, then perhaps they might surface naturally. Hypnotic regression as a beall and"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "endall of a case investigation could easily be construed as a gimmick. I agree with this assessment."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "Um, hypnosis is at the mercy of,"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "you know, the subject and the person performing the regression. Uh, there's so many variables that can get in"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "between the truth and, you know, the subjective truth of the patient."}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "And so always proceed with caution and and never take it as gospel when it"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "comes to uh these regressions, but"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "definitely still do it because I find it very interesting. However, a few weeks after Kodak's photographic analysis, Philip called and"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "asked about the possibility of hypnosis as he had developed a feeling that this would enhance his memory of the missing"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "1 hour and 3/4. He had recently experienced a vivid dream where he was staring at a pattern of stars in the"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "sky. Steve Balon contacted student journalist"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "Matthew Hill, who put us in touch with Dr. Jim Singleton, a clinical psychologist. Dr. Singleton had no"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "knowledge of the phenomenon apart from the dubious matter he had picked up from the popular media. When he mentioned our"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "request to two of his colleagues, one of them said something similar had happened to a close friend of his and the other"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "claimed something strange had once happened to him. Dr. Singleton first carried out an interview with Philip at"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "the home of Arthur Tomlinson on Wednesday evening, March 16th. There he put the witness at ease over what"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "hypnosis entailed. The hypnosis session was planned for later that week during Saturday afternoon at the same venue."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "Although neither Jim Singleton nor Philip Spencer objected to our tape recording of the session, Dr. Singleton"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "would not countenance any of us being in the room while this was happening."}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "However, a compromise was reached when Matthew Hill was allowed to stay in order to operate the three tape"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "recorders. The session began at 3:18 p.m. Here is a full transcript. Jim"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "Singleton has abbreviated has been abbreviated to JS and Philip Spencer to PS. Dr. David, David, doctor. There'll"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "be none of that. All right, just for for those of you wondering, I want you now to cast your mind back to the 1st of"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "December last year when you set off across the Moore. I want you to clear your mind back to that. I want you to"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "reexperience that. I want you to tell me what you experienced."}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "I'm walking along the moore. Oh, it's it's quite windy. There are a lot of clouds."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "Walking up toward the trees, I see this little something. Can't tell, but he's"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "green. It's moving towards me. Oh, I can't move. I'm stuck. He's still coming"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "towards me. I still can't move. I'm stuck. And everything's gone fuzzy."}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "I'm I'm floating along in the air. I want to get down. And this green thing's"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "walking ahead of me. I don't like it. I still can't move. I'm going around the corner and this"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "green thing's in front of me and oh god, I want to get down. Long pause,"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "breathing faster. There's a there's a big silver saucer"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "thing and and there's a door in it and I don't want to go in there. Worried sounded in his voice, a sigh."}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "Everything's gone black now. You say everything's gone black?"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "H I can't see anything. Like I'm asleep. Can't hear anything."}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "There's a bright light now. Can't see where it's coming from. I'm in a funny"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "sort of room. I can hear this voice saying, \"Don't be afraid.\""}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "I don't feel afraid anymore. I can still see this green thing,"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "but I'm not frightened of it now. I'm being put onto a table. I can move"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "now if I want to, but I don't feel frightened. And there's a beam like a pole. It's"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "above me. It's moving up towards me. It's got a light in it like a"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "fluorescent tube. It's coming up from my feet. I can hear that voice again saying, \"We"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "don't mean to harm you and don't be afraid.\""}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "Makes me feel warm as it's moving up me. It's coming up over my stomach towards"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "my head. Close my eyes. I don't want to look at"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "it in case it hurts my eyes. It's gone."}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "There's something. My nose feels uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "That's gone as well. I'm standing up now. I don't know how I got stood up. I"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "can see a door. There's one of these green creatures motioning for me to come with him."}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "Don't really want to go with him. I'd rather stay here. I don't feel afraid in here."}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "Can you tell me what's happening now? I'm walking towards the door."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "There's still a bright light. I can't see where it's coming from."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "There's light all around. Want to know where the light is? It's just bright. It's just light. Walking"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "down a corridor, there's a window. Oh god. Sounds shocked. Is that real?"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "Deep sigh paws and sounds afraid. Don't want to be up here. I want to be"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "down there. I can hear that voice again saying, \"You've got nothing to fear. It It's pretty tough.\" Didn't realize it"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "looks so pretty. I've gone past the window now. I'm walking down a corridor."}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "What's happening now? Come to the end of the corridor. There's a hole opened in it so I can walk"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "through. I'm in a big room, a big round room."}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "I'm on a raised platform against the wall. My camera and my compass are"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "trying to get away from me, going towards the ball."}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "It's difficult to pull them back down again. And this ball's moving around"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "with things around it. Looks strange. It's It's got some blocks on it."}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "He says we can't stay in here long. He wants us to go out again. The hole's"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "closed in the wall. It's gone strange. He says, \"I've got nothing to fear, but"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "I'd like to go home. It's got such big hands. What's happening now? Going down"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "the corridor again. It's very bright still. I wish I knew where the light was coming from. And there's another door."}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "Going through a door. It's an empty room. Two of those green creatures have come with me. There's a picture. It's"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "starting to move on the wall. I wonder how they get the pictures."}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "Can you tell me what's happening at this point? I'm looking at the pictures on the wall. Pictures on the wall. H"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "creatures seem concerned at the damage that it's doing. Picture's changing now."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "There's another picture, another film. He's asking me a question. He says, \"Do"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "you understand?\" And I said, \"Yes, it's time to go. Everything's gone"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "black.\" I'm walking up the moore again now. I'm walking up near some trees. Some"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "movement. I can see something. A green creature. I've shouted to it. It's turned around. I don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "I'll photograph it. It's turned around now. It's moving quick. Want to know what it is? I'm running after it. It's"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "gone around a corner. I can't see it now. There's There's a saucer."}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "Big silver saucer. It It It's disappeared. I'm walking on down. Gone past the"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "trees. What's happening now? I'm going home. It's 10:00 on the town hall. Can't"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "really understand. and it was only 8:00. You mentioned some green creatures."}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "Would you try to describe them to me? It's quite small. He's got big pointed"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "ears. It's got big eyes. They're quite dark. He's hasn't got a nose. He's only"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "got a little mouth. And his hands are enormous. And his arms are long. He's"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "got funny feet. Funny feet. They're like a Vshape. like two big"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "toes. Must be difficult to walk like that. He shuffles rather than walks. I"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "don't feel afraid of him, although he looks odd. You mentioned big hands. Can you say anything more about the hands?"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "It's got three big fingers like sausages. Big sausages. They're just very big. Bigger than my hands."}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "About how tall would you say these creatures are roughly? It's about 4 foot. Comes to the lump of my stomach"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "and he's about as high as my Just a bit bigger than my stomach is."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "Okay. Now, I wonder if I can ask you another question. You mentioned watching a film. There were two films. Two films."}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "One was lots of scenes of destruction like on the news. Can see lots of waste"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "going into the river and people like Ethiopians who were starving. It's not very good. It's not very nice. Want to"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "say anything more about that film? It's much of the same thing, only different. What about the other film,"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "then? Do you want to tell me about that? I'm not supposed to. I'll leave that up"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "to you entirely. Do you want to say anything about that? I'm not supposed to tell anybody about"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "the other film. It's not for them to know. Okay. Now, is there anything else you"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "would like to add to what you've already told me? I don't think so."}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "At the end of the session, Matthew Hill appeared looking quite shocked. It was a very moving experience, he said."}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "However, the details of the hypnosis were nothing new to the rest of us. The basic elements of the abduction, small"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "entities, bench in the middle of the room, physical examination, light which passed over the body, ecological"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "warning, bright white room with no obvious source of illumination. All these surfaced time and time again in"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "dozens of cases from around the world. But how did Dr. Singleton feel about"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "Philip strange narration? We started off by asking him what sort of subject Philipper turned out to be."}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "A good hypnotic subject, perhaps slightly better than normal. But was he definitely hypnotized?"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "I think he was definitely under hypnosis. That's my opinion. To have faked it convincingly, Philip would have"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "had to have studied hours of videotaped sessions. then he would have to be a very good actor to have carried it off."}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "I think the hypnosis was genuine. He was certainly recounting the incident as something which had actually"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "happened. He described things typically as one would recall a past event. He compares very well with other nonUFO"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "subjects. All right, just a little pause here. As"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "mentioned by the author, this is pretty standard stuff when it"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "comes to regression. Uh, not only the rooms being lit and"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "the abductee or the contactee being confused at"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "trying to point out where the light source is. That happens time and time again. Don't know where the light's"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "coming from. Even recently Jesus Hofraia who we interviewed had said the same thing like the walls were just emanating"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "light but there was no like source of it. So one thing that wasn't mentioned"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "by the author here is the round room"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "without any apparent corners or where the walls meet the floor seamlessly. All of these things are very very common and"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "again as mentioned by the clinical psychiatrist here"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "he would not have only had to study according to him hypnotic regression tapes."}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "He would have had to been a good actor but also he would have had to study UFO lore."}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "And I think any slight sort of clue"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "to him being a fanatic of the UFO stuff would have probably come up in any of"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "the conversations that the researchers had with him and his wife."}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "So I think that to be uh quite interesting again is this the part of"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "the system? Are they are all creatures that come here who are tampering with humans simply"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "putting them through the same sort of look at this image, this is bad, you're"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "bad, don't forget, don't do this, you know, and and sort of appearing benevolent in this act. Appearing like"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "we are the bad guys harming our planet and that allows them to get away with, you know, whatever test they have to"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "undergo. I don't know. Interesting stuff though. But of course, hypnosis is no"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "truth drug. Although the police have used it successfully to ascertain details of car number plates and"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "physical descriptions of Dr. Singleton agreed. Experimental studies suggest that people can modify"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "or vary their recall. So obviously there is no certainty that what is recalled"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "under hypnosis is 100%. However, here I think I've helped Philip to recover"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "memories that were hidden more deeply in the mind. But why were the memories hidden in the first place? In terms of"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "my clinical work, if people experience things which are unusual, traumatic, or frightening, the mind protects itself by"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "pushing them deep into the subconscious. People that way don't recall them immediately. Hypnosis seems to lower the"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "threshold of this barrier. How then did Dr. Singleton view the photograph?"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "This was the pivotal point of the entire case. The speculations of UFO abductions"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "being purely an internal phenomenon did not hold up if the picture was genuine."}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "It was either genuine, in which case we were dealing with a real physical phenomenon, or it was fake,"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "which meant we had all been wasting our time. Dr. Singleton had no doubts."}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "It seems there again very consistent. I suppose the good thing about the photograph is it helps Philip face up to"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "the very unusual experience. With the photograph, he has some material evidence to back up what he knows is"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "memory. During the questioning of Dr. Singleton, Philip sat at the back of the room, very quiet and introspective. I"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "had never seen him like this before. The psychologist had allowed, if Philip wished, for him to retain a full"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "conscious recollection of the hypnotic narrative. We now asked him a few pertinent questions. Just how vivid was"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "your recollection? It was very clear. I have no trouble remembering what I"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "saw. From his hypnotic testimony, it would seem that the photograph was taken at the end of the experience."}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "This, of course, explained the missing time and the lightness of the sky. It would also seem if we take his story at"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "face value that the compass was altered somewhere else away from the location."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "We were interested in the paralysis which had stopped him from feeling."}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "I was quite conscious of the fact that I couldn't move conscious of where I was going and the creature in front of me. I"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "was floating still standing upright and felt much like a bear on the end of a"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "piece of invisible rope. Although Philip would remember seeing a door open in the object, he could not actually recollect"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "going through it. Just the onset of blackness followed by an awareness of being in a white room. Of the bench,"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "Philip remarked, \"I felt a lot more relaxed when I lay on it. But we were also intrigued by his passing reference"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "to the view through the window, which Dr. Singleton had not picked up on.\""}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "When we asked the witness to elaborate, he looked decidedly embarrassed. It was the sort of view astronauts have during"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "space missions. I could see the Earth. It was beautiful. Quickly, he added, \"It's just as well all this story sounds"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "ridiculous.\" When he was pushed on the innuendo that he was orbiting from space, Philip just"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "shrugged his shoulders. I don't know that. I It could have just been a picture on an outside wall,"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "although it didn't look like it. In an effort to explore audio impressions, I asked him if he remembered hearing his"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "footsteps on the floor of the corridor. He did not recollect any sounds except a humming in the background. He knew that"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "the first film depicted a warning of ecological disaster. But what about the second film which Jim Singleton failed"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "to get him to elaborate on under hypnosis? Still, Philip would not discuss this except to say it was of a"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "very personal nature. I have met Philip since the hypnotic"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "regression experiment when I traveled down with Liz Kelly from the radiological protection service based at"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "the University of Manchester on April 19th. Philip had applied to rejoin the police force and by way of an"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "independent character assessment showed me a private letter from a serving officer police officer who had known him"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "for 8 years. The letter spoke of Philip's good character and honesty. Liz carried out a radiation survey of the"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "location and took away grass and soil samples for further analysis. Some witnesses of close encounter experiences"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "has have exhibited all the symptoms of radiation exposure. In this case though, only normal background radiation was"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "detected. Since the hypnotic regression, Philip had supplied me with further material regarding his abduction."}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "This surfacing of further details is not uncommon. The creatures seemed part of a"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "team. They were acting as individuals, but more like bees, as if they were doing what they were programmed to do."}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "Many other abductees have likened their abductor behaviors to robots, ants, or bees. But Philip also received this"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "impression. I had a feeling of goodness about these creatures. I don't think they would harm anybody. I would go so"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "far in retrospect to say I actually liked them."}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "I certainly felt no threat from them after the onset of the meeting."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "If Philip Spencer's claims are genuine, then we should all take a good hard look"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "at the world and wonder just what the hell is going on."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "Perhaps we should let clinical psychologist Dr. Singleton have the final word. I think that if people make"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "unusual claims, we should at least listen to them and listen carefully. We"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "don't know all the answers to everything. If we are going to be even remotely scientific, we've got to"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "entertain these different ideas, thoughts, and impressions."}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "Well said, Dr. Singleton. And oh my god,"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "what a fascinating case. I had no idea"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "that there was so much more to the Illemore abduction case."}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "It makes me want to get my hands on this photo so bad. It is a It could"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "Let me know what you think. All right, I'll give you my conviction level. I don't like to, as you know, you know, we"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "suspend our disbelief here at Area 52. I don't like to give you a binary yes, no,"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "I believe, I don't believe. I think that's harmful. I think it prevents data collection. But I will give you my"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "conviction level on me on thinking this is true. I I'm about"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "I mean I'll analyze the photo even even more but I think"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "initially initially I was probably I don't know"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "30% low conviction 20 30% I'm looking at a photo this could be anything could be"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "a dummy could be whatever but after hearing all the testimony after hearing the regression after hearing the person"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "at Kodak and all the other sort of photographic experts weigh in on this"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "after hearing the testimony about his character from the other police officer, hearing that the wife as well was to be"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "trusted, the visit from the mod, I'm up at around 70% at this point."}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "That's and that's pretty high for me. Um, it would be a lot higher if he came"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "forward and I was able to look at him as he told the story and I was able to assess his character for myself. I think"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "that would maybe raise it to 80 or 90%. Um, depending on, you know, how that went."}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "Well, let me know what you think. If you were to give me a percentage"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "of conviction, what would your percentage be? Would it be 99%? Would it"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "be 7%? Let me know and let me know why you gave it that number. I would really appreciate that and it would actually"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "help me gauge where the audience is at right now in terms of your conviction on"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "this specific case and and and abductions in general. Folks, thank you so much for sticking through this read"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "through with me. This is one of the best readthroughs that I've ever done. Uh"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "shout out to the author here. A great article indeed. Um, if you have any"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "further information on the Oaklmore or what happened to the photo or any of the likes or if you yourself had an"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "encounter in Oakley Moore, uh, let me know in the comments as well or write me in the Discord channel. You can find me"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "over there. We've got a whole bunch of categories where you can share your stories and we go through them as a"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "collective community uh to to try to get to the bottom of it. Folks, thanks for"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "watching. We'll see you on the next episode. Peace and love."}]

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I got the name"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "of a of a vessel. It was I called it the potato, like you spell it like potato."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "it goes from turkey to grease or whatever and then it comes up here and and I said and I think that that's how"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "the chemicals are coming in and the analyst said well it's not potato it's"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "potato it's with a be and then this guy called the general who was the head of operations and said we're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "launch a submarine based on my information well that really was pressure"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "do you have synesthesia yes you do that That was one of the things they found out later on that the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "psychics that they had worked with at Stargate were mostly cynices. Um, what"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "is your sinthesia like? Colors. Colors. I see colors around people."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "You see colors around people? Aura. Auras. Really? Do you see mine?"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "[Music] I've had two UFO sightings and I've also"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "had, you know, a few minutes with an ET. So, I've seen I felt like I went through"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "a portal. And I saw I think it was one of the ones, the grays. Are they the ones with"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "the black eyes? Yeah. Yeah. [Music] Would this is putting you on the spot."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Would you be open to doing a session today? Yeah, I'll do a session. Really? Yeah, I need a Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "I'll get you a pen and paper. What do you need? Pen, pencil. Pen and paper. Go ahead and ask a question."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "What's What's the purpose of this? What I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "doing now? Okay, there goes channeling. Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "[Music] Have you RVed or have an opinion on Threeey Atlas?"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Oh, yeah. that's supposed to be coming or something. Yes. Some people are saying it's a big alien ship. Other people are saying it's"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "an asteroid. I have not remote viewed it. I'm very interested in it and I may go remote view it."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Could you keep me in touch if you do? Yes, I will. I will. I will go home and do it and I will and I will email you my results."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "I do have a question. You let me know if you're comfortable with this. When you were on the Shawn Ryan show, you had"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "stopped at a certain question. Do you know what I'm referring to? Everybody asked about that. Have you tried to look into the crucifixion?"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "It was December 20th, 2021 when me and my dad were driving in"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Colorado Springs near the Space Force base and we saw six lights appear in the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "sky out of nowhere. uh two basically two triangular patterns"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "and then all of a sudden a black like triangular spaceship appeared out of"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "nowhere and I try to pull up my phone"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and it told me it's not going to work. This is a gift. Just embrace the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Angela Ford. Thank you so much for coming here and"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "finally being able to sit down with me and have a conversation. I'm so excited to have you. Welcome."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "I am so excited to be here. We've had some problems with me getting here, but I am so happy to be here and thank you"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "for the opportunity. Absolutely. I have so much I wanted to talk to you about and you know, prior to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "this, we were sharing a coffee and I was just I was biting my tongue the whole time. So, we got to save some of this"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "for the podcast. um you were involved in one of the most important in my opinion one of the most"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "important programs that the US government's ever funded which was the Stargate program. Uh but prior to that"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "you were also working in intelligence uh for the government. Do you could you fill us in a little bit about your"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "history prior to entering Stargate? Okay. Um, well, first of all, whenever"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "when I was very young, very young, I would say four, five, six years old, I I"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "had a lot of out-of- body experiences. Um, so I I knew what out of body was."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "And I used to have dreams and sometimes my dreams would come true. So I would um"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "I would tell my mother and my mother would listen. So she never told me that. She never discouraged anything. So, I as"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "I got older, there were times that I may have had psychic experiences, but I never really talked about it. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and my mother was very um she had an interest in the occult. I can remember"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "her buying magazines and books and I think she even well she did. She bought an encyclopedia of the occult that's"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "still at my house really. So, she had an interest but she was actually very psychic which we found out"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "years later. So, I gra I w I grew up in a small town"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "in western Pennsylvania. It was it was in Indiana County in Indiana, Pennsylvania was where Jimmy Stewart was"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "born and raised. I went to the local college there. It was called Indiana University of Pennsylvania and I got and"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "I received a degree in political science. Now, the year that I graduated from college, I didn't have a job. Um I"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "didn't know what I was going to do. So, there was a night you can you can take these nighttime classes. I think they"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "cost like $35 for six weeks. And there was a chemistry professor that taught at"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the university, but he held a night class in ESP. So, I took his class."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Well, what happened was is I applied to the FBI. I had a my sister had a criminology degree, so we applied to go"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "to Washington DC to work for the FBI. And I had to quit the class because I"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "got I received a nighttime job. So I had to quit the class because I had to go to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "work to make the money so I could come down to DC. Well, and the FBI job had nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "with the ESP stuff. No. Nothing. Totally. Yeah. Totally unrelated. Yeah. My my sister wanted to be a cop,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "but they weren't she wanted to be but in Pennsylvania uh the state police academy in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "Pennsylvania didn't have the funds and it wasn't opening up for a couple of years. So we just we decided the FBI may be a"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "better better way to go. So we came down and we worked for the FBI and it had"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "nothing to do with anything being psychic and the FBI didn't pay me that much money and I worked with a woman"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "whose husband was in army intelligence and she left. She left the FBI and she"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "called me about one or several months later and she told me that the Army Intelligence was looking for political"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "science PE with people with degree with political science degrees. They were"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "offering them internships for two or three years. So I applied and they hired"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "me. Now I think they hired me because they already had a clearance. So, it was"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "easy just to transfer me over because if you have to if you have to do a background investigation and get someone"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "a clearance, it cost a lot of money. And that was just a secret clearance. No, it was higher than that."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Really? Oh, yeah. What clearance was it? SECI. Really? Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Wow. Okay. So, um, I went to Army Intelligence and they had me on an internship for, I think, three years."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "And, and what I needed to learn was how the intelligence community works. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "they sent me to different offices and I took different classes and, you know, you learn how you how you collect"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "information, how you analyze it, how you disseminate it, how you write papers for policy makers, and then at the end of"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "the 2 to three years, they give you a job. and and I ended up at the end of"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "three years being a Central American analyst during the early 1980s which was"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "excited because exciting because you had Noriega, you had the Sandinista brothers"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "in Nicaragua, the communists, there was there was insurgencies in El Salvador"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "and um Honduras and it was it was just an it was a hot"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "bed. It was hot exciting time to to work at a place like that probably, you know, never a dull moment."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Yes. And that every week I would have to give briefings to the general sta to the general and the general staff of the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "recent. So I liked it once I I liked it. Um so"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "this must have been around 1983 8 1983."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "So, I I was working as an analyst and my mother had called me one night and she"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "said that um it was the fall and she said, \"I'm looking for something to do. I want to take a class.\" So, I told her"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "and her friends decided to take that ESP class from do from the professor at the"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "university. So, I told her, I said, \"Just take that ESP class. You'll like it.\" Well, uh my mother and two of her"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "friends took it. And what they found out was my mother was really good at psychometry where you could hold an"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "object and tell you like if you had somebody's psychometry the you could hold like the"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "jewelry like a ring or a watch and you could tell you could take get information from from that."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Yes. So interesting. Yeah. So my mother she's she was uh she was good at that. So um"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "my father died during that time and I was having a very difficult time with his death and my mother sent me a book"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "and it was called a world beyond by Ruth Montgomery and she said she said read"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "this book it will help you understand your father's death. Well Ruth Montgomery was a she did automatic"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "writing she was a channelist. So I um I read this book and I just resonated with"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "it. It's sometimes just think I just resonated with the book and I said I think I'm going to try this automatic"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "writing and I did and I started to get information about um what happens to"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "some you know when you go beyond the veil be um I was receiving information"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "about relatives both you know on on that on both sides."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Um and I was just receiving information and I liked it. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "so my sister also started the automatic writing and my sister was taking an"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "astrology class at the time because we always had the interest in the paranormal. At some point it was always"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "in and out of our lives. Sure. So, uh, her astrology teacher knew"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "that we were doing automatic writing and she said we were doing it about a month and and the lady told my sister, she"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "said both of you should go see should attend the Fred Mansbridge Institute. He he had a a metaphysical"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "he taught metaphysical classes in Alexandria, Virginia. So, I started to study with Fred Mansbridge."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "Now, unbeknownst to me, during that time, I had found out that Army Intelligence had these remote viewers"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "sitting at Fort me that was remote viewing it. I'm like, well, why didn't I know this? Well, because it was a"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "special access program. It was compartmentalized and if I didn't need the if I didn't have the need to know, I"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "was not going to know about it. So, um, I approached the general stumble bind."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "How did you hear about this? through. Oh, this is how I heard about it generally."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "It was like I mean that was like mum's the word on that type of stuff. Special access programs are uh you know"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "this is how I heard about it. Um no matter who Oops. No matter who the"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "general was, they inherited that program. If you were if you whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "general was the head of Army intelligence, they inherited the program. But in the early 1980s, a man"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "by the name of General Bert Stubblebind came along and he was interested in this"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "in this stuff anyway. And he he would bend spoons and he had a man John,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Colonel John Alexander, who would walk on fire. And they were always looking"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "for people that, you know, expand your mind. They they want, you know, soldiers that, you know, use your mental"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "abilities. So they were taking trips on weekends down to the Monroe Institute because the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Army intelligence was stationed in Arlington, Virginia. So on a Friday"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "night, they would pick you up on the bus and take I don't know if it was a 2"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "threeh hour drive and then they would come back on a Sunday evening. So you had this um you had a chance to go down"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "to the Monroe Institute. So I said, \"Well, sign me up. I want to go.\" Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "the first time I was on the list, there was a woman who uh her name was Charlene. She put me on the list. Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "she called me up and she said, \"I have to take you off the list because some colonel from Hawaii is flying in from"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "the from that command and he wants to go to Monroe.\" So, I was taken off the list. So, then the second time I was"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "supposed to go, I got a call and they said, \"Um, you you're taken off the list again.\""}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "And so and so I said, \"Okay.\" Well, then the third time she called me into the"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "office into where she did the list into her office and um she said, \"Okay.\" She"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "said, \"This isn't really fair to you. Uh but I but I'll fight for I'll fight for"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "you to go this time.\" They were going to take me off the list for the third time because they didn't want to have to read"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "you into the program. No, because because people higher rank were higher rank were overriding me to go."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Right. Okay. I see this this had nothing to do with the remote viewers at Fort Me. I see. It was detached."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "It was separate. It was totally separate. So you had no idea about Stargate at this point. No, I still didn't know anything about"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Stargate. I just thought that Stubbleine was, you know, he just wanted people with these abilities. It was a free ride"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "down to Monroe. Monroe cost a lot of money. What a way to, you know, it would have been a great opportunity. Um, no,"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "the reason I kept being taken off the list is because other people that"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "overranked me, high ranking people. I see. Like if a if a colonel was going to fly from Hawaii."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "So, I mean, it must have been quite popular if all of these highranking officials were going to Monroe. I mean, there must"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "have been something to it, I think. So, I don't know if they were interested or if they were just trying to please the general, too."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "I see. Yeah, I don't know. Good point. I don't know. But I think the third time"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "I looked at the list and there were two people that I worked with and they were going and I I just didn't want to go"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "with them. I felt like I just didn't feel comfortable. So I said no, I didn't want to go. So then eventually"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "I don't know how I found I think it was Charlene or there was another girl and they had talked about the psychics at"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Fort me or the remote viewers and it just I was just surprised. So, I kind of approached the general um to see if I"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "could get involved, but he said he was retiring. It was in 1984, and he was retiring. Um he lost support"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "from the Joint Chief of Staff at the Pentagon. Uh I think he was told to cease and desist."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Um and so he he w he retired so that he could get out and still do his uh he"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "still wanted to do the paranormal act. What was the reason that he was getting"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "flak? Was it the MK Ultra stuff? Was it No, what happened was there was um one"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "there's a joint chief of staff at the Pentagon for intelligence and there was one man that held that position for a"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "long time. And there was a young captain, Skip Atwater. Fred, okay."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "Fred Atwater had a very high interest in ESP. So he kind of whispered in this"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "guy's ear and said we should have we should have military officers use psychic use psychics. So the guy said"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "okay let's try it. So I think at first they were using remote viewers on a"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "part-time basis. Ah and then I think in 1976 it was the first operational they found an aircraft"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "and so at the one in Africa. Yes. And and at that point they decided to use remote viewers full time and it"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "would come under army intelligence. Oh that's when they transferred it over. Yeah. Cuz prior to that it was like sun streak and center lane and"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "yeah that was flame that was all under army intelligence right because what"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "because of this joint chief of staff said okay we'll do it well he but then what happened was I"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "guess he retired or stepped down and the new person that took his place just"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "didn't want any part of it. Ah I see. So this was in 1984 and General Stumblebine was like, \"Then I'll"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "just retire.\" Because he really was interested in the whole he said, \"I I'll just go out and start my own company.\""}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Yeah. He was very gung-ho about this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And um so he So I thought, well, there goes my"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "chance. So I didn't understand this, but this is this is how it all fell out, which I"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "didn't know at the time. Now you had army intelligence and they had the"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "remote viewers. Well, in the meantime, you had the Defense Intelligence Agency."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "There was a man there by the name of Dr. Jack Verona who was a scientist. And Dr."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Verona was giving small contracts to SRRI to start looking into um paranormal"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "research really. So, yeah, he was he was it was small contracts. It wasn't a lot, but he was funding SRRI."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "There was a man down in um Ohio. He worked for the foreign technology division. His name was Dale Graph. And"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Dale was very psychic and he did a lot with dreams. And when when Dale won he"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "was he was um he won an award and he was going to get he was given a sbatical and"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "he could go to he could do whatever he wanted to do in one year. So he wanted"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "to go to Princeton. He wanted to go to Dorm, North Carolina. They he wanted to"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "go to SRRI. He wanted all the hot spots all the SWATs were doing parasychology research and when one of his bosses"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "found out they said no you're not going to do that and they rescended his his"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Wow. Yeah. They wouldn't let him do it. So when Jack and Dale was an analyst and"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "so Dale was watching what the Soviets were doing also cuz he was and he was a"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "scientist. Dale was a scientist. So Dale was have getting access through intelligence reports too of what the"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Soviets were doing. So and I think he was giving the reports he was making he"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "was ensuring that Dr. Verona was getting the reports and so you know there you know oh well the Soviets are doing it we"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "need to do it and they would run to Congress and we need money to do this. So when Dale when when Dale uh when"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "Dale's award was taken away Dr. Verona said, \"Well, why don't you just come up"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "to the come work for me and he did left Ohio.\" So, you had"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "you had Dr. Verona and you had Dale Graph at headquarters. They were funding"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the research and they were also doing something. It was called foreign assessment. Finding out what other the"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "other countries were doing in most and it was mostly the Soviet Union, you"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "know, and there was Brazil and other countries, but it was really the Soviets that were dabbling in psychic stuff as"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "well. Brazil. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. You looked at their cultures like who? Yeah. C Brazil, Portugal. Um,"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "so, so I guess this was in 1984. General Stubble retired. now because he retired"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "and this program was and these remote viewers were no longer going to exist."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "Uh from what I understood is the people the remote viewers sitting at Fort me were sort of sitting around and they"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "were waiting for orders to find out where their next assignment was. And who who were these remote viewers?"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "They were mostly military. Yeah, they would have been Joe McMonagle. It would have been Joe Joe retired in"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "1984. would have been Joe McMongle, Mel Riley, Lyn, I think Lyn Buchanan,"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "um Fred Atwater was the operations officer, Ed Dames was a trainer, Bill Ray, he was"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "a remote viewer, but he was the boss. You had a secretary there, Charlene, uh Jeanie, and then we had Charlene there."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "She was civilian. So, pretty tight, pretty tight crew. Mhm. and they and you know like if"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "programs exist or whatever they really you know so they were sitting around thinking well you know where do we go"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "from here I think Charlene was in person now she would have they would have found her something"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "well at that point Dr. Verona went to Congress and said please do not um he"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "said don't leave the leave the remote viewers operational and just transfer"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "the bill they called them billets or transfer them from army intelligence to"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "DIA which took about a year to do to call it took so that would have been 1985"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "because in January 1986 I was um uh I"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "transferred in Yeah. Yeah. Paul Smith came down and started interviewing me for the job. So Paul Smith was uh head of making or"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "vetting people. I I think he was the training officer, but I'm sure I got in by the I I got in"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "by the general's recommendation. Yes. And in January 1986, this it"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "started my process. And that was uh it was still at this point, I guess, a special access program."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "Yes, it was. It was Yeah. Wow. So now that you're in, you're"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "you're in the club. How does that feel coming in from the outside being"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "interested in this stuff sort of tangentially? You're you're getting your feet wet, so to speak, with, you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "automatic writing and and hearing whispers of this remote viewing program. How is that feeling? First of all, as a"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "woman coming into this place that's, you know, pretty heavily male-dominated at this point, what are you feeling? Well,"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "I had just left it do when I was hired by Army Intelligence. I had three years"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "of an internship with military and then I had be and then I had the Central American analyst with the milit. So I"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "was used to the military thinking. I was a female civilian."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "Um it they don't think it's a it's an old it's a boy club. They"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "they say that they're not prejudice, but they are. Sure. Um um so you you feel it. I you feel it"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "that you know the military is the military. I can remember working as a Central American analyst and having"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "young female lieutenants coming into the program and I you know I had four or five years experience on them and they"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "were getting but be and they were getting more respect than I was because of the military. They wore the uniform. The females wore"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "the uniform. I see. They were, you know, everybody thought, \"Oh, they're smart. They can do this."}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "They can do that.\" And and you were treated as a civilian to them, sort of. I see. I see."}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "Um, so by the time I went there, I was I I knew the mental I knew, if anything, I"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "was I was working at a higher echelon before I went That's right."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "before I went to the psychic program. So when they started their shenanigans, it was like amateur stuff. It was like"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "amateur hour. Yeah, that does make sense. Yeah, you"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "were coming in from a pretty high position. TSSCI clearance, you know, very sensitive stuff"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "in in briefing generals. I mean, just just briefing generals and I mean it was"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "tough. I remember one general, he told me I I said so I gave some information"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "wrong and I was right that I had an aviator go in and said, \"No, she's right.\" So, I mean, it was tough. It was"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "tough. So now that you're in, what does what does the sort of first day on the job in"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "terms of getting a target? Are you are they even giving you targets early on or are they training you?"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "The training first of all you go into Well, the first day I went in I now"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "there I was I had studied at the Mansbridge Institute. I did the was doing the automatic writing and actually"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "I was starting to do psychic readings although I wasn't charging people. My"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "sister was working at a restaurant and she would send people over to the apartment so I could give them readings."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "But um so I went in I felt like this is where I belonged. I felt like I was"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "psychic and this is hey this is where I belong or so the first day I went in I was told"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "that they said we heard about you and that what you have is a bad habit my"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "automatic writing my channeling who said that Fred water skip at water he said you"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "this is a bad habit and we don't want you to do that here we're going to teach you the right way on how to remote view"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "so by that time I had enough experience in the military and I know that I have many"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "times I have upset people maybe by not following the chain of command or doing"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "I just had a way of just I guess just I just had a ways of upsetting people. So at that point I just thought you know"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "what just go with it cuz I want I really wanted to be there. Yeah. So you were willing to set aside"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "what you had learned and said okay teach me. So, how was because I I had spoken to Ed Dames um two years"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "ago when we were doing this journey through remote viewing and went down met him. He's in Northern California, I"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "think, near Sacramento or something. And, you know, sat with him and and talked with him and you know, he likes to talk. He's he's uh he's definitely"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "very passionate about the remote viewing stuff, but he definitely has his own lane and like this is how we do things."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Was Was he there while you were Oh. Oh, yes. So, was he also against the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "automatic writing because I get that feeling like he Oh, yes. He just Oh, yeah. He was definitely against it. He would stand he"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "Oh, yeah. He I mean, he would almost beg me not to do it. You shouldn't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "Um, no, he was hard-nosed. He g Yeah, he gave me a hard time. interesting that he was hard-nosed because he's also known"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "for like remote viewing the holy grail and like well and the thing was was when I went there were books there like the do you"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "remember Jane Roberts she did the Seth materials well she that was trans channeling the entity would enter her"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "well there were books there and I'm like well surely he they know about"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "Seth and they know trans channeling and and they know so much why are they stopping me from doing what I'm doing"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "And but because it it wasn't protocol protocol because they were the military and they had the"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "coordinate remote viewing. Mhm. Um it was step by step that the the"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "manual that SRRI told Ingo to do. Right. So no they did not like it. They did not"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "like So okay you learned this this new technique to you which has been you know"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "taught by Ingo to all of the No, I did not learn coordinate remote viewing. I learned extended remote"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "viewing. And extended remote viewing was there before coordinate remote viewing. And"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "the reason they put me in extended remote viewing because Ed Dames was training people in coordinate remote"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "viewing and he had all of he probably was training everybody I think at the time except Lynn Buchanan and the boss"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "Bill Ray. Now, there was a man there by the name of Jean Lesman. And Jean was in"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "Germany working. And when you're a civilian working overseas, you're only allowed to stay in that country for 5"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "years. His five years were up. So, he called his friend Bill Ray and said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "need a job. I am coming back to the States. I need a job.\" So, Bill Ray said, \"Well, come on. I'll give you a"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "job.\" So, Gene Lesman got in the program. Now, Gene Lesman was not psychic. He I don't know if he had an"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "interest or not, but I So I think what happened was that you had two trainers."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "You had Ed Dames and Gene Lesman. And Ed Dames had most of the uh he was doing"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "most of the training and Gan didn't have anybody. So I came in and I think because Gene needed somebody to train,"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "they gave they gave me to him. I see. So it was so So anyway, but anyway, maybe for the best though."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "It was okay. But Jean gave me a hard time too. But I did extended remote viewing. And"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "what I did prior to going to the program, I was waiting for my clearances to be passed from Army Intelligence to"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "Defense Intelligence Agency. I bought a book and it was called the Silva Mind Control by Dr. Jose Silva."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "Yeah. Learning in your sleep and and that type of stuff. And like you meditate or you pull up the picture and you turn on the TV and then"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "you look. So, I started I started um practicing with that. I read it and I"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "started to practice a little bit, but that's what extended remote viewing was. When they started training me in"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "extended remote viewing, to me it was just the silver mind control. I see. Yeah. It was um maybe them sort"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "of branching out to a little bit more of an open mindset to this remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "stuff. Um because as you know now and as you know I'm sure many other people know there's there more than one way to skin"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "a cat when it comes to this stuff. Um, you know, even even you look at somebody who you mentioned, Lynn Buchanan, um,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "who I've never interviewed, but I'd love to talk to. I he was on a a show recently, a friend of mine's show, um,"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Michael Phillip, and he was talking about, yeah, the sort of telekinesis and things that he was into as well. Like he"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "would walk into a room and this excited, I think, General Stubble at the time where he fried all the computers or"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "something and the general was like, \"Was this you?\" And he was like, \"Yes, sir, it was.\" And then the grin grew on the"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "general's face. Um, so you know, you and Lynn are in this um,"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "we were the only ones brought in by the general. Yeah. Right. So he saw something special in both of you, I'm sure."}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "Um, and I think they resented the fact that I was brought in by the general. Oh, yeah. That played against you a"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "little bit. Oh, sure it did. But I that didn't bother me at all because I worked I mean I've been around by that time I was"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "around long enough that if somebody high up wants to pick somebody out and help them they they're going to do it."}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "That's how that's how things work a lot of the times. Right. But so you had to kind of earn your stripes so to speak. What was the moment"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "that for you that happened? Maybe not for anyone else but for you that you had"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "a session or you had a mission or whatever that was. What was that like and how did you how did you get the"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "results and how did that make you feel? Oh, you mean the first time? The first time that really made you feel"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "like, oh, we got this. Well, it was training. They train you. So, they were training me and I think I did"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "pretty good on the targets. I did the um I think they were getting more excited"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "than I was, but they, you know, the targets were what what I'm thinking of some of the targets. Um,"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "you know, the St. Louis Ark, the big ark, um, the Washington Monument,"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "the Devil's Tower, these type of things. Yeah. Yeah. They were they were okay. But it was okay."}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "But they were getting excited. They were getting Yeah. If I would get it, they were getting excited. I was like, \"No big deal.\" I mean, I was doing"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "it, but Were you Were you secretly doing automatic writing during these"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "sessions? No. Oh, no. I cuz Jean was with me. Jean would monitor. He was the monitor. I see."}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "Yeah. So, I wasn't and but it was okay. Um but I felt um"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "what happened was is I felt very alone and very isolated after a while. And I"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "don't know I don't know why I felt that. I think maybe because we were working in a remote location"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "and I felt when I I gave up a lot. I gave up I knew I was living in Virginia."}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "I had a lot of friends. Um, I could do a lot after work with people now. I was in"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "Washington DC driving about an hour away. It was a very lonely existence. So"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "I think um after a while it was like what am I"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "doing here? You know, you know, I can do this, I can do that. So now about a year"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "and a half after I was into the program, this would I I entered the program in July 1986."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "About 1988, um a lot of people retired, Bill Ray"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "retired, Fred Atwater retired. We brought in new people and the new people came from the"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "past from the original remote viewing from the original remote viewers. they"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "ca um that they were using back in 1976 before CRV even came along. So these"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "people they weren't they said they don't care what methodology we use as long as you"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "get as long as it's resultsoriented. At that time I had met Ed May and he was"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "working at SRRI and Ed was um he didn't care what he said I don't care if they"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "stand on their head. He said I just want results. So I said, \"I'd like to use my automatic writing.\" So they said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "you can do your automatic writing.\" So one night I can remember being at um"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "work and I I sat in at my desk and all the when all the coord coordinate remote"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "viewers Ed Dames called a meeting in the back office and this is what he would"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "always take his CRV coordinate remote viewer people and he would have these meetings and he would elaborate and this"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "I remember the secretary always telling the boss she said you know he's holding these meetings. You're the boss. He's"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "not the boss. Why is he keep doing that? And but he was doing it. And so one"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "night, you know, they all walk by me. They don't say hello. They don't say goodbye. They completely ignore me. And"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "they have these meetings all by themselves. And I'm sitting all by myself being ignored. So I just went"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "home one night and I can remember it was cold. I had a big gray coat on. And I"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "just walked in my apartment and I sat at my tape dining room table like this and"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "I put my head down. I was so tired I fell asleep"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "and I woke up the next morning and I thought and I thought to myself I thought what am I doing here? I said you"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "know I I said this just can't I can't this can't go on. It was like a breaking point for me. Um, so I went to work and"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "I went to my boss, Vern Gobin, and I said, \"Do you want to try some remote viewing or some channeling?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "said, \"Sure.\" So we went over in the back and he had a target. It was Terry Anderson who was a who was a hostage in"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "Lebanon. Y and we and I started channeling. I, you know, I said, \"This man is I don't know"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "what I said. I said, he's in a country where he's not he's not from this country.\" I felt like he was under"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "stress. Well, we started to get information and I can't remember everything I said, but it was enough to"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "that he could con that it was able that I locked on to the target. What were you given prior to the"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "session? Nothing. Were you giving a tasking number? Just probably"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "probably like a like an eight-digit number, something to that effect, and they're like, \"This is the target. That's it.\" Yeah. or they may have called it um"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "automatic writing session one or something, right? And that was it. Yeah. And then they're like go and you're like"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "there's a man in a foreign country and he needs help or whatever it was. Yeah. That's So we locked on. We locked on."}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "So he he was kind of excited. He was like So he came back and the secretary"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "knew what I did and Fern kind of got excited and he said, \"Gee, do you know if she does this?\" And Jie goes, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "I know. like that. Yeah, she's been doing it. So Fern, so we started working. Well, all of a sudden we're"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "doing all the hostages. There were more hostages. So Fern went down to"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "headquarters to talk to Dr. Verona and he said, \"I've got somebody up there that's doing channeling, but look at"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "what we're getting.\" Well, Dr. Veron, he and and Vern said, \"I'd like to continue"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "with her.\" And Dr. Veronica goes, \"By all means.\" So, one Sunday we got a call"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "to go into work because the host uh there was a man by the name of Colonel William Higgins who was kidnapped. He"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "was a Marine Colonel that went to Lebanon and he was kidnapped. So, we got"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "a call because he was just taken and they wanted to know where he was. So, we went to headquarters to work"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "and I had put Higgins I I when they g I said he's here and they're moving him"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "and the analyst said that that I was right. That checks out. Yeah. They said as soon as I said"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "they're moving him and where he was, they were receiving information from same intel. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. You know, this"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "is right. So, then they wanted to know where was Higgins kept. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "looking at pictures in im imagery and I pointed to a location on IM. I said,"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "\"He's right there. They're keeping him right there.\" Well, of course, Dames is looking over my shoulder and he says,"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "\"There's nothing there. How can he be there? There's nothing there but woods.\" So, the analyst said, \"That's an old im"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "that's an old picture.\" You know, you don't know what there what there is. You know, something could be there now. So"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "the analyst said that's an old that's an old picture. So and of course everybody"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "ah he wouldn't be there. He wouldn't be there. Well a couple of weeks later the hostages the uh the terrorists they"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "leave hostages out every once in a while and there was a German hostage his last name was Cordez and they they let Cordez"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "out. And so our analysts went to Rinmine in Germany to debrief him and they asked"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "they said, \"Where's Higgins?\" And and he pointed to the same place I pointed and they said, \"But there's nothing there.\""}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "And Cordez says, \"Yeah, but they built but they they built a building. They they made a building and that's where"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "Higgins.\" So that Yeah. How long How long after was that, do you"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "think? How much time between when you pointed it and then they received that intel? Say two weeks. Two weeks. a long time."}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "It's a long time. It's a long time. You know, they're uh it's a long time for them not to do anything at this point. Were they like,"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "\"Well, maybe she's on to something. Maybe we got to use her a little bit more.\" Well, they wanted to they wanted to use"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "me anyway. Yeah. They wanted to because they were asking about Anders. They were Everybody was"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "really worried about Terry Anderson because he was very he was very hate much they did not like him."}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "Yeah. So, so what we would do is we would we would work the hostages and I would"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "point where they were. Um, I would conduct health I could I could tell like"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "health statuses. There was one man poheill and I said he was going to come out with a sore throat and he came out"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "with throat cancer. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So, we would we would do the reports. We'd work during the day. We"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "would send the reports to the headquarters in the afternoon and by night my reports were with the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "embassy and the Israeli embassy were ghost and I you know they were reporting"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "to to their people in Israel and I had Terry Anderson in the Bahau Valley one"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "time and they said oh he would never be in the BA Valley. It's not the mo of the"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "of the terrorists and he was in the valley. Wow. He was where I said he was."}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "Incredible. Yeah. Were you working alone on these targets? You had no one else working those"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "targets as well or if you if they if if they were, you wouldn't know. Well, what happened was since I started"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "working the hostages, well, of course then the CRV people, they wanted to work the hostages. Oh, yeah. It's important"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "work. Yeah. Yeah. And also they tried to um they wanted me to stop my channeling. They they wanted"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "um they felt that I wasn't that it was not science that that the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "channeling and the automatic writing did not have scientific it needed to be tested. They wanted to"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "test it and they were the ones that were going to test it and my boss was like no way are you going to test her. Um, all"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "of a sudden they came from ignoring me to their full attention and and I said,"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "you know, they didn't look at why are they bothering me now? They didn't bother me before. What did they"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "Yeah. So they of course then they had to get all involved with the hostages. Um, were you seeing any of the other um"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "perhaps employees try this new channeling method? Were they No. No. Were you rubbing off on some of"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "them? No, because my boss said that um he they Dr. Verona decided to call it"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "written remote viewing WV. Now a lot of people think Fern my boss Fern made up"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "that termin terminology but it was Dr. Verona. So Fern told the group he would hold"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "meetings and he said now if any of you want to learn WB he said I want you all"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "Angela will teach you. Well, they're not going to they're not going to come to me to teach. I mean, I'm below them. There"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "was no way they were going to come to me and help me in. But they wanted to test me. They wanted to and and I said I"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "said, \"You're not going to test me.\" I said, \"Because you're not a scientist.\" I said, \"You're here to remote view like"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "I am here to remote view.\" And I think Paul Smith at the the time had an art degree. Now, what would he know about,"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "you know, if Okay. Yeah. But you know, if you you're here to remote view,"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "you're not the scientist. You you know, you don't have the credentials to so you're not going to touch me."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "Yep. Yep. And that's where I guess Dr. Edwin May comes into comes into the to"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "the fold because he's definitely someone who's studied remote viewing, I think, more than anyone else in the world."}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "Um, you know, he studied you for what, 30 years, probably 40 years. like it's a it's a long time to have uh test"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "subjects, if you will, and have all that data, you know, that he's compiled over the years. Really interesting. So, okay,"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "you're locking on to these targets that are hostages. Hostages. And"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "what is it like getting feedback? Are you receiving feedback on a day-to-day"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "basis? No. No. They give the they give the feedback whenever they can because it"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "takes sensitive. It's Yeah. and they have to go out, they have to bring the information to the Israelis by the time"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "they check it out and then come back. But we were able there was other things I was able to describe some of the"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "terrorists. Um and and there was one point after we"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "we worked the hostages maybe close to two years and I always said they were coming out during an August September"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "time period and that's when they came out. But there was a period where it I"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "felt like I was winding down. It was like how much you know you keep doing this and doing this. But there was a"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "there was a time whenever I felt like something changed. So, I was in session one time and we were asking about"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "um the hostages and I said they're getting ready to be released and I said that there was a man by the name of"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "Jonathan Livingston that was going to help in the release of the hostages."}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "Well, when the analysts heard that, they wanted to know who Jonathan Livingston was. So, at that time, they started to"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "look through Microfish to find out who was Jonathan Livingston. They went to the state department to find out who was"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "this man. Well, one of the analysts ended up at the Pentagon in um Colonel"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "Higgins had a wife who was in the military also and her office was in the"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "Pentagon and one of the analysts was in her office and he saw my report sitting"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "there and he asked her, he said, \"Who was Jonathan Livingston?\" And she said,"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "\"He's a British envoy that was just sent to Lebanon to negotiate the release of the hostages.\""}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "And the reason they couldn't, our analysts could not find anything on"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "Terry on Jonathan Livingston was because he was English, right?"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "So they didn't So how did you get that name? It just through channeling. Through channeling. You wrote it down."}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "Uhhuh. Jonathan. Yeah. That's how it comes. That's incredible. But that's so specific. That's not like But that's"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "not like some guy named like some initials JL or something. That's That's a full name. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what you Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "Yeah. That's incredible. So, so anyway, um when Terry Wait wrote"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "his book, he credits Jonathan Livingston as the guy who he like who freed him or"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "he he like broke the nut, you know. Yeah. Wow. Wow. That's incredible. That"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "is absolutely incredible. Um did you ever get to meet any of these"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "people afterwards? No. No. No. Do do you think they had an idea cuz this was again special access program"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "even the people freed the hostages other people they had no idea you were even doing this. No but it was the what what really"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "helped me was the analyst at defense intelligence they were the one they were acting on my information."}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "Wow. What's your conviction level that the government's still doing this by the way"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "right now? Um I don't know. I mean I think at the time that we had it was a very full robust program. We, you know, we had a"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "con, we had a, it was congressionally mandated. We, it was, we had three purposes, you know, the remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "to spy. We had, we were looking at the research and development, the re how does this work? Paying scientists and"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "psychiatrists or psychologists and the foreign assessment. What are other countries doing? So, I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "it's going on on such a big way. I don't know. Yeah. or or you know there's obviously"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "you know a lot of people think you know Stargate moved over to SIC and these private you know government contractors"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "yeah probably where it would live now because it's it'd be you know impossible to subpoena um if that's the case"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "um these congressional this congressional oversight committee that had to approve the budget uh how many"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "how many times did you have to go to them did the program have to go to them is it every year no no No, no, not every year. We were"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "pretty good for three or four years, but every once in a while, somebody would kind of rear their head and say, \"Get"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "rid of these psychics.\" So then you'd have to go and fight and and when you had to go and fight, does that mean you had to go and remote"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "view for them? No. No, you had to. We had Dr. Verona and Dale Graph would go to Congress,"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "fight on your behalf. Yeah. Fight on our behalf. No. In fact, I think there was a in in IG inspector"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "general tried to close us down and um they wanted to come to the office"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "and Dr. Verona just told us all to stay at we had we were protected. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "um the Congress knew people knew that there were remote viewers, but we didn't"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "they we didn't have access to these people, right? But I mean also, you know, it is"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "kind of strange that people would want to shut that down. Um, do you think there was some type of like religious"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "reason for that? It goes against if it goes against a person's belief system, they're not going to they don't want it."}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "Yeah. It just it if it it's irritating if it goes against your belief system."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "So, it's more of like um conservative parties within the government that were like this this is against our religion"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "and this is like work of the devil. So, work of the devil, work of the devil. And but yet we had some people that were"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "very conservative but they knew the intelligence game and in intelligence you collect information no matter how"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "you get it. So it it was surprising that you would think certain people would be"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "against it but they're like oh no it's information bring it on. Bring it on. And then you had some people totally"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "against it. And then you had people that believed anything what we said. So, like"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "Ed May always said, it's always better to work with a skeptic because they're neutral."}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "That's true. And it's so interesting to think that like the program was, you"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "know, strongarmed into like almost strong armed into into shutting down,"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "not for lack of results, but for um but for faith reasons."}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "Yeah. Ideology. Yeah. Ideology. How uh how interesting, right? Because if you were to ask somebody why do you think they shut the"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "program down like in 1995 you know they'd gone publicly on the record and said oh it just didn't work and you're"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "like well that's 20 years of you know something not working you'd think you'd shut it down prior to that you know"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "yeah see what happened a lot of people ret Dr. Verona retired so we lost a lot of support."}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "Yeah. And then they um we were losing support"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "and I and we had a lot of support from Congress and we were we were we weren't"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "treated that well by after Dr. Verona retired. So they wanted to transfer us"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "to the CIA in 1995. And the CIA said they were going to do a"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "study which we should have seen the writing on the wall. They said they wanted to do a six-month study to find out whether or not this was really"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "helpful, if remote viewing was really helpful for operations. Well, they hired"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "um an outside agency to do a review, but they did not give the outside agency"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "clearances. So these now in the past if you ask"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "somebody to do something like this you would give these outside you would give"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "them some type of clearance that they could go in and look at the classifier do their work. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "They weren't given the they weren't given the um in they weren't given the clearances. So what did they have? So"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "they came back six months later and said oh no it doesn't work. It doesn't mean anything. Right. Because they have no access to"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "any of the targets. Nothing anything. So, so, so the, so I'm back at Defense"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "Intelligence Agency. I'm working as a regular analyst. I'm doing something on Russia or some I'm in and defense"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "industries. I'm working. I get a call from a young guy over at the Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "His name's uh and he said he said, \"I'm a head of special access programs and I"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "want to know why this program was shut down.\" And he said,"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "\"So what happened was all of the all of the history of Stargate was left. It was"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "taken from Fort me and it was brought to CIA cuz CIA was Congress mandated that"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "CIA take the program.\" So they had all the information. They we were thinking"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "that this study these people on this study was looking at the information. So"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "the guy said he said he said, \"I want you to come.\" He says, \"Let's go look at this information. I want to find out why"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "this program was shut down.\" So I said, \"Okay, I'll take I said, \"I'll take you"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "over.\" Because I knew the boxes. I knew how they were. I could get to the boxes and tell them what was important"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "instead of him taking all day. I could Yeah. I So we went over"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "and the boxes were not opened at all. M meaning that whoever did this study"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "didn't even look at the unclassified information. Wow. And I said these and I looked and I said"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "these boxes were not open. They when we closed them at up at Fort Maid they were"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "never they had seals on them and Yeah. They they were never open. Yeah. So we opened one box and there"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "right on top was one of Joe McMonagle's session and we had feedback from the CIA"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "said that it was just you know this information helped us tremendously which do you remember which session it"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "was? No, I don't. But I can remember and Wow. Oh, so I felt like we were done in."}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "And then Yeah. I mean, that was kind of you had the you had the odds stacked against you and and so then the CIA goes"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "to, you know, 2017 they were they had to sort of disseminate this information and"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "go public or declassify it all. And what I remember Joe McMonicle telling me is like what they did is like they parsed"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "through it. They shredded what was highly sensitive and the rest of it they just kind of mixed up. They shuffled the"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "papers and threw it online. So you have these millions of incoherent sort of papers that are lingering online."}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "And actually some of the information that I did wasn't even part of the arc. My information was set aside"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "because they would keep my information separate from the other remote viewers because my boss and even Ed May did not"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "want the other viewers to see what I was doing because of my crit the criticism."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "Oh, I see. Not because of the sensitive nature, just because of the uh the way you were doing it. Because I wasn't right all the time"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "either. So if I But no one is. I know. But so if I was wrong on something Well, see there there she is."}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "It doesn't work. So I see. So, as a way to protect me, they were keeping my information. Okay."}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "Separate. So, a lot of my information wasn't even there. So, you're um you're doing these"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "targets. Now, I remember speaking to Dr. Edwin May about you know how successful"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "this was. And one of the most convincing things that he's told me was, you know, 17 out of the 19 intelligence agencies"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "that used Star or use Stargate um came back, right? 19 intelligence agencies"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "used it. 17 of them came back for new missions. And out of the 20 years that Stargate was around, they did 505"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "missions. And the joint task force and this is like I mean you have CIA, FBI, all you"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "you name it. DIA, all these people, customs, DEA, that's right."}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "Army intelligence, Navy intelligence, air force intelligence, all of it. And were were"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "you most of the time did you know where the target like did you get feedback"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "from the target or would they just be like here's a number remote view and they would take your remote view and you"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "would never hear about it again. Oh no we would get feedback whenever we could. Okay. That was one good thing about the the um"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "analysts that I we worked with that I worked with. I see they if if there was any feedback that could be given I was"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "given it immediately. Was there any feed Were you only given feedback when"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "something was a hit? Yeah, but there was a lot of things that they couldn't confirm like um the Libyan"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "vessel. Did you did I'm not I'm I'm don't think I'm familiar with this. Gaddafi they they they were sure that"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "was in the ocean. It was the No, it was Kaddafi. He had a chemical plant."}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "Okay. and they couldn't it looked like he he had this chemical plant but they"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "couldn't tell intelligence couldn't tell for sure and they didn't know how he was getting the chemicals to the plant so"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "they more or less they kind of there was a big question like does is he doing is he doing this weapons of mass"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "destruction is he so I worked it and I got the name of I"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "of a vessel it was I called it the potato like you spell it like potato and"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "um and I said it it rendevous. I I said this is how you know this is how it rh"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "it goes from turkey to grease or whatever and then it comes up here and and I said and I think that that's how"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "the chemicals are coming in. So we made a report and it's sitting on the"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "analyst desk and Dr. Verona walked by the analyst and he saw my report and he"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "said, \"Do you know anything about this?\" And the and the analyst said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "it's not potato, it's potato. It's with a B, not a P.\" And he goes, \"That's a"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "that's a Libyan vessel.\" So Dr. Verona took that report and he went to um the"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "the guy the general who was the head of DIA who and then this guy called the"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "general who was the head of operations and said hey we think that um we think"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "we found a way on how these chemicals are getting into how Gaddafi's received"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "getting his chemicals. So they pulled up they just decided to pull up a submar"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "launch a submarine from Greece to to follow to find out if what I said was"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "correct. So my boss Fern and I were sitting at Fort Maid and Dr. Verona"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "calls up and he goes, \"Oh, we're going to launch a submarine based on my information.\" Well, that really was"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "pressured. Whoa. That really was pressure. Oh no. Oh my gosh. But even I mean getting the"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "name like I mean potato I couldn't help myself but I mean that's that's that's a"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "hit. Yeah. So but and you know they did trace it and they followed it and that it came"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "back highly it came back like highly probable or highly likely"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "and in the intelligence community that was good enough for me. It wasn't like it was a it's like they didn't come back"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "and say, \"Oh, she's smoking.\" And that was good enough for me because"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "that was very that was So they were they able to confirm any of that by sending human intelligence on"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "the ground or I uh No, cuz they were kind of watching the vessel and I think the submarine was"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "the one that was kind of at gathering intelligence and that signals probably."}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "Yeah. And they said, \"It's probably what I said was probably very likely.\" Whoa. Highly likely, probable, highly"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "something, but it it was that was good enough. That was good enough. It may have not been that hit."}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "But it goes close enough hearing that like, \"Oh, yeah. Yeah, we"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "think you're on to something. We're going to send a submarine halfway across the world, you know, with"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "people on that submarine in a highly stressful, dangerous situation because of something that you wrote down on a"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "piece of paper. Well, I know. And the thing is is that in intelligence get when you analyze"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "information, it comes from different sources. Well, when we worked the hostages,"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "they came to us because we there was nothing else. That's right. They said you couldn't get"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "signals or imagery into Beirut because it was too mountainous and Clinton started to take out the spies on the"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "ground because it was very very dangerous. Right. So what are you left with? No. So that's the the analyst come what"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "can your people do? And it was the same thing with this um launching that"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "submarine was based on sole source. Me that's scary. Yeah. Cuz that's not something they"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "usually do in the intelligence community. never you know they'll never take a sole sort because a I mean"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "people's lives are at risk b it's a money issue you know it's also a political issue are you crossing a"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "boundary somewhere these are all very sensitive things to be able to you know um that you have to approve before"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "deploying any of these assets and and so yeah normally there wouldn't be a sole"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "source of intelligence uh but there was yeah unless on hostages there were and"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "on this and I remember um when Dr. Verona went to I guess the the head of"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "the generals the head of DIA and in the operation I guess he said and this is the same person that said this this oh"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "yeah this is the same person that gave you this this and this I'm like oh yeah yeah you know we'll send up this"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "submarine and see he was hyping you up"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "yeah he was he was team Angela very cool yeah that that that must have been"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "something did um did the other cohorts or your other the other people in the program. Did they catch wind of this"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "happening? On the feedback on the feed. Yeah, cuz we would have meetings on the feedback. Did they look at you differently after"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "that happened? The their jaws would just drop. Just drop. I mean, they couldn't even look at me."}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "I bet they couldn't even look at me. I mean, that's something else. There's a reason you were there. And I think maybe"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "they were starting to understand that, you know, that you were uh that you were handpicked for a reason, you know. Um"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "that's cool. That's that's I mean that's incredible. So after this um were you"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "ever given because you dealt with a lot of hostages. I I'm I assume you dealt"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "with also a lot of probably uh like weapons of mass destruction um nuclear silos like this type of"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "thing. Were you ever um given targets that were a little strange during this"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "time or were they always pretty much along the same lines? pretty much along the same lines. They had to be legally"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "Mhm. I mean, I think Dames had his pet project where he wanted people to remote view Martians or whatever. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "Or Mars. That that was his private pet project, but no, we had to stay within"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "the uh congressional mandated was. Well, then okay, but Joe Joe"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "McMonogle remote viewed Mars and he was at Monroe when that happened. And was it a DIA agent that came in and gave Bob"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "Monroe the envelope? I don't think so. I think that's what Joe said. DIA or maybe he said DoD."}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "Probably DoD. Okay. And that would have been while he was at Monroe, so he wasn't at"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "uh Joe had a reputation. People knew him. They probably I mean that could have very well happened."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "Yeah. But we didn't I we didn't get that. Yeah. He got that. But I'm wondering who he might have gotten that from. He he"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "knows people, you know, pe probably somebody he did work whenever he was a remote viewer and they remembered his"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "work and somebody remembered him because actually when the program ended in 1995"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "um around 1999 and 2000 I got I some people approached me to work for them"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "privately privately in at DIA and I did and I helped a I helped a guy find a a spy. We we found a"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "we found a spy really. Where was the spy located? He um"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "like a a a spy here on this side of the world or there was the the guy who the guy who"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "approached me. His name was Scott Carmichael and he wrote a book. It's a Kindle book. You either get it for free"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "or it's 99 cents and it's called Unconventional Method. and he there was"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "somebody approached me that he wanted me to do some work for him on the side which I"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "was doing on my own on private time and this and he knew Scott Carmichael"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "and Scott Carmichael had a case that he just couldn't crack and he said would"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "you think she could help me out? Oh, bec. Oh, no. Because the man I was working for, this was I was going home"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "and working for this man and I was giving him information and whatever"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "information I gave him, he called in Scott Carmichael and he said, \"Scott, I have some information I want you to take"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "over to your colleague over at the State Department.\" So Scott said, \"Okay.\" He said, \"And where did you get this"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "information?\" And he said, \"From a psychic.\" And Scott said, \"No way am I taking this information.\" He goes,"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "\"What?\" He said, \"You can't. I'm not taking this information from a psychic to the State Department.\" And um so Carl"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "started telling him a little bit about me and and and Scott was like, \"Get out of here.\" So then Scott kind of came"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "back around and he said, \"I've got a case that I just can't seem to crack.\" Last resort."}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "And he said, \"Do you think she could help me?\" So So I did. And there was um"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "over in Australia there was an imagery cell that thei you know we we share our intelligence with"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "Canada, England and Five Eyes. Yeah. Five Eyes. You got Pine Gap down there. Yeah. Yeah. And there was a there was an"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "Australian that was working at an imagery imagery place with the Americans"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "and he stole I I guess he stole imagery or he took a plane one weekend to Singapore and he went to the Singapore"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "embassy and he wanted money to um he said I'll sell you American secrets for"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "money. Wow. So the Singapore embassy called the United States. Well, usually when people"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "go in and they they want to sell secrets, they don't use their real name."}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "Um, and they could not I and this guy used the name Baker. He used the name"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "Baker. And so I I guess the first session I had, I did pick up the name"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "Baker. So they knew I had they knew that Yeah. You were on to the target. On to the target. And so then they"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "wanted to know, you know, who was he? And I said he was Australian. I said he was on there was a drug issue. Um I"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "described what he looked like and um and I gave other information which I can't"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "remember but nothing really nothing really meshed. Nothing. And Scott was"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "working with the FBI on this because whenever there's an arrest made in the"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "intelligence community, the FBI makes the arrest and the FBI takes them to"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "court. But Scott wouldn't tell them that he was using a psychic because they would have been thrown out of court"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "because right so he never told them that he was using a psychic. And at first I think Scott"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "thought I was just banan you know he didn't understand the information and how I was piecing it together. But I did"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "say that the man would be caught and that he would be arrested on American soil. So it was sort of a prediction"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "going into the future. And I said there was going to be a meeting on I think"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "April the 30th. There was supposed to be a meeting between this guy who wanted to sell secrets and somebody. So Scott was"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "giving all of this information to the FBI and so that the FBI could lure the guy in to come into the United States."}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "Well, the case just wasn't it just wasn't jing for Scott and he thought I was he just"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "thought I was off. Well, there was a female FBI agent and she asked Scott to"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "work one they needed to get into um the message system. It's a it's a it was"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "called safe. It was a uh intelligence message system that the FBI lady needed"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "Scott to go into. So Scott started and she was asking questions and Scott would"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "go in and and you know try to retrieve this information. And as he was retrieving the information, he started"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "to see things that I said, I described the guy. I said he was"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "Australian. Now, the FBI lady kept saying he was Canadian."}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "And and Scott kept asking her, \"Are you sure he's not Australian?\" She said, \"No, he's Canadian.\" She was. And well,"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "here Scott finally remembered that people can have dual citizenship. and he said, \"Do you think he could be Canadian"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "and Australian?\" She said, \"Maybe.\" So, they got this guy's name. His name was was Pere and that they they looked at"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "him and everything he more or less matched what I said. So, he was eventually arrested."}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "Wow. And and then after he was put in jail, then Scott told the FBI that um"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "So, you were used that was used. And what what was Scott's um feeling about"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "psychics after that? Did you change? Oh, yeah. He wanted me to find some more. I mean, he kept wanting me to work"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "and he went to New Jersey. He found a psychic. I mean, he was really into it."}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "Yeah. I mean, that's that it is interesting when you get into that realm because especially when there's no other"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "open door to go through and you're banging your head against the wall and you need to solve a case or you need to"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "figure out, you know, where these hostages are, where this vehicle is. There's nothing else that can help you."}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "I mean, you're the, you know, the intelligence agencies are the most powerful in the world. They have access"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "to everything. So, for them to go, my pockets are empty. What do you got? and"}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "then you come back with something. I mean, that is so valuable to them, you"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "know? I would have a hard time believing they're not doing this stuff as we speak, by the way. Um Oh, yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. Um"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "in some capacity. Yeah. So, I Yeah. So, Scott Yeah. In fact, I hear from Scott now. In fact,"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "Scott had he had quite a good reputation. He found Anna Montes. She was the Cuban spy."}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he identified another spy. So, it it was um he's funny. Is he with the"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "DIA or is he he's contracting? He's retired now. Yeah. Okay. But he was contracting back"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "then or was he was No, he was a DIA employee. That was during while he was with the DIA. This was 1999 2000. He was a um he was"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "an invest he was the investigator. He would investigate crimes. His job was to find spies."}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "Whoa. Cool job. Yeah. And he had that one case. And so he went to the this man I was helping,"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "Carl, and he said, \"You think she could help me with this?\" And I didn't even see I never met Scott Carmichael. Never"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "met him. And he worked in a different location than I worked at DIA at the headquarters"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "at for Defense Intelligence Agency. He was someplace else. Well, eventually they moved his office to the"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "headquarters. So, five or six years later, I get a call and he said, \"My name's Scott Carmichael"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "and you help me with this case. Can you come down meet me in the cafeteria? I'll buy you a cup of coffee.\" And that's how"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "I met him. And he said, \"Do you remember this case?\" And I said, \"Wow, I'm thinking I'm thinking I'm thinking.\""}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And I said, \"Carl?\" I said, \"I think I got it through Carl.\" He said, \"Well, we arrested the man because"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "that's how I got my feedback.\" That's cool. Um, yeah, that's a cool feeling. Even knowing that you, you"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "know, might have had just a hand and taken down someone like that is is a pretty impressive."}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "What was was there ever a moment where you were like, \"Holy crap.\" by seeing whatever it is"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "you did or you were like, \"Oh my god, I can't believe that.\" Like that Jonathan Livingston, like that would blow my mind"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "if I were to even if I I'm trying to put myself in your position, but even if I knew I had ability and I could do this,"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "like something so specific would just That's what the channeling is."}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "Yeah. It because it seems way more dependable. Well, it's it's a location. If you're"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "looking for somebody, you can't say, \"Well, there's a tree and water and a building.\" A tree and a water and a build is everywhere. So, you have to be"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "specific. You have to be specific. When you're channeling, what are you channeling? Actually, are you going into"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "the person? Are you inviting the person in there? Is it just an energy? Like, what is that like?"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "Um, it's sort of like I work with spiritual guides and they kind of help give me the information. I see."}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "Some girl said she does the same thing and she says, \"I feel like I'm cheating.\""}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "said, \"No, use the information.\" So, you're actually using intelligence. You've got your own set of uh intel"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "coming in. Yeah. They think it's all channeling. You're like, \"No, no. I got a group of spies in the uh in the ether"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "that are gathering information.\" Wow. That's That's cool. Um"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "I I well I guess that Wyoming the customs man I think it shocked everybody"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "and and I think that that was you can't a lot of people question what I did on the hostages"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "because Higgins did die. Yeah. And and I said that um"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "I really did not know he was dead. Yeah. And but the analysts came back to me and"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "they told me they said, \"Angela, he probably died by accident because uh the"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "same thing happened to a William Buckley.\" They were high priority hostages and the and the terrorists knew"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "that. So they really didn't want them dead. So that Higgins probably died by accident, but they didn't want the"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "United States to know. So they were try they put him on ice and they kept moving him. So I would locate Higgins where he"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "was and they said, \"You were right, but he was dead.\" And they were traveling on water. Wow. So a lot of people felt like I should"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "know that he's um dead, but you know, hey,"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "what does it, you know, I you sometimes you can't tell the difference between Yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "You know, it's just energy or whatever. Yeah. And it's never um I mean, one thing about remote viewing and a lot of"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "the psychic stuff as well is that it's never 100%. And if it is like I mean you don't know like that's it's you know"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "it's um when when you hit like like Joe McMongle if you look at a lot of his sessions is like you know he wasn't"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "always hitting but when he was hitting the accuracy was very high. Yeah. That's what that's what Ed said."}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "He said Joe is probably more dependable than me in remote viewing"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "but when I hit I hit Yeah. And I Yeah. He said that it's Well, what Yeah. And that's what"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "happened with the customs case. Um there was customs there was a"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "case there was a man by the name of Charles Jordan and he was on the 10 most wanted list and there was a TV program"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "called the 10 most wanted. Well Charles Jordan was a custom agent that went rogue. I guess he took the money and"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "then he instead of giving it to customs he pleaded and took the money and it was over a million bucks I think a mill over"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "a million dollars. So customs called Dr. Verona and said, \"Do you think your people could help us out?\" So Dr. Verona"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "said, \"Well, I'll see. We'll see.\" So he came down and so I go into session and I"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "went with Fern, my boss, and then we would always take Jeie, the secretary, with us because she would take the"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "notes. So Fern said he first he goes,"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "\"Angela, where is Charles Jordan?\" So I said, \"He was in LOL. L O W E L L"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "Wyoming. And Fern said, \"Well, are you sure it's not Massachusetts?\" He said,"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "\"Cuz I was born in L Massachusetts. I don't think there's a L Wyoming.\" And I"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "said, \"No, it's Wyoming.\" Because I was getting the impression of cowboys and Indians. And I said, \"No, it's it's not"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "I'm not getting, you know, water or the eastern uh I said, \"No, this is Wyoming.\" So Fern didn't know what to"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "do. and he said, 'I don't know. So, um, and then I started to get this image of"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "drug of of drugs and and then I'm and all of a sudden I'm in Florida. I'm in"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "the Caribbean and I'm feeling hot. Well, and I thought, I've got to get out of here because it's I'm getting mixed"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "information and and I said, I'm going to go with LOL, Wyoming. So, Fern said,"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "okay. So, we were in the back. We were in a large room and there was a book there that had pages of maps. So he went"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "to Wyoming and he said, \"Well, there's a level why.\" And I said, \"Close enough."}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "That's it. That's I said, \"That's it.\" Um, so I said, \"Close enough. That's"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "it.\" So, you know, of course he's perplexed. And how do you go to somebody and just"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "give them two words, you know, Wyoming? But I guess Dr. Verona did go to customs and say that I don't know how he said"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "it. He said, \"Well, someone that's pretty good at, you know, that Vines is in Wyoming.\" And Customs said, \"Oh, he"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "would never be in Wyoming. He would be in the Caribbean. He'd be, you know, he's enjoying the good life.\" And"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "everybody else had him in uh the Caribbean and Florida. So,"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "and that's all I could get on it. But at some level, that's that's all I could do. There was nothing more I could do."}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "So I think Dale Graph came down. It must have been it was about a month later or"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "6 weeks later Dale came back came from headquarters down to to to Fort Maiden."}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "He asked me if I would work the session again. And because he made the special trip, I said, \"Okay, I'll work the"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "session.\" So I worked the session and I said that Jordan was moving west of"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "Wyoming. I said he was staying in a hotel. I I don't know if I named I"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "described the hotel. I may have named it and I drew a picture of an Indian burial"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "ground. So they took that information that same day or the next within less than 24 hours they took it to customs"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "and Dr. Verona said, \"Well, we think he's moving west of Wyoming.\" and the"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "customs official said, \"As we are speaking, Charles Jordan is being"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "apprehended 100 miles west of Levelville, Wyoming.\" So, so everybody everybody went crazy on"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "that one cuz Dale Graph was like, \"There's Dale was Dale Graph was like, \"No way would he be in Wyoming.\" He"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "really Dale just um I mean, you could have thrown a dart at a map. Like, that's that's incredibly"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "specific. Yeah. So, um, but then I then Dale was happy that I then Dale got happy because"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "I was right, but he thought Dale was like, \"Ugh, I mean, he just I don't think Dale believed it.\" But anyway, um,"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "we did get it and I said, \"I wanted the reward money.\" And they said, \"You're just doing your job.\""}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "So, we asked we said how they said that there was a a guard at a security guard"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "at Yellowstone National Park that saw him and reported it. So, we figured he"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "probably maybe saw the picture on the 10 most wanted or the TV program. So, we"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "didn't think anything of it, but we were happy that we could say that we we were getting, you know, we did it. We did it."}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "You did. The unit did it. So, um so this was in 1988 or 1989. Well, they closed the"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "program in 1995 and Oh, no. No. It was because this was"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "not a classified case. It was an open. It was it was an unclassified case."}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "So pretty soon the BBC got a hold of the case and they wanted to do a reenactment"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "for the Discovery Channel, right? So they did in June 1995."}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "There was um they did do a reenactment of the case and they came to the United States"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "to to do the reenactment and the BBC called the Defense Intelligence Agency"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "up to ask that they talk to me. They wanted to talk to me and my management"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "was so upset with me, but I didn't know they were going to do that. And of course, they weren't going to let me"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "uh speak with them, but my my management was getting angry with me and I'm like, you don't even you know, it's not me."}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "You don't even you don't even know the backstory. So, yeah. Um, so on set Dale Graph was there"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "and I was and and Dale said something like he said, \"Boy, you know, it's a shame we couldn't get any credit on the"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "on this Char finding Charles Jordan.\" And the customs man said, \"Are you"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "kidding? It was because of me that they found him.\" They said they never would think that they never would have thought"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "he would have been in Wyoming. But apparently about three or four weeks or"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "two or three weeks after I said he was in Wyoming, the man Charles sent Charles Jordan sent"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "a picture of himself to his mother. And when she showed it to the FBI, they saw"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "a I think it was a a truck with Wyoming license plates. And Joe McMonagle told"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:26", "text": "me she he said they were just sending pictures of him from up to that western"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "Wyoming and that's how they they and that's how they got him. And they would have never done that if that they Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "They would have never made that connection. No, because even when I first said Wyoming,"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "uh Fern, my boss Fern and Dr. Verona was trying to tell customs it's a it's an"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "isolated area. It's not heavily populated. Just send an FBI agent up there. Seriously? Yeah. What's that"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "cost? Nothing. Just send and start snooping around. Yeah. Just ask ask some locals. Wow."}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "Yeah. That's I mean when I heard that I remember reading that one from Lowel to Love and I was like no way that you know"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "again one letter off. Yeah. You know, bad potato. It's phonetic. I always say it's it's"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "not the spelling. It's it's just phonetic. It's phonetic. Are you getting like it's hard to put words on an"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "impression on a psychic impression because a lot of it is p perception of something. It's not exactly the thing"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:31", "text": "like um so essentially like when when even when I was starting to learn remote"}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "viewing they were like I'm like oh you're because remote viewing is a bit of a it's not the correct name for what"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "you're doing because you're not viewing something. You're by putting that out there people think oh you're going into"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "the eyes of the person. And it's not that it's you're being given different sensory information"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "and it is like seeing something when you picture something in your mind but it's also very different. So when you're"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "getting level or low um is that like in your mind is that an auditory sound or"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "is it like a or is it just a feeling or is you're just letting your hands do the work? I just I just let my hands do the work"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "and it comes out and that's what I see and that's always how it's been for you. That's what's worked. Yes. But I do know what you mean. When"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "remote viewing, people think that the third eye people think that you see it"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "there or something and and it's not when you when I do regular remote viewing sites, it's you"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "get feelings, you know, like you can get cold. You get a feeling and you're relying on other other you're you're"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "you're doing. Even when I do a psychic reading, it's an energy comes in and you're just picking out this information"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "to report it. And sometimes the third eye will open and it helps you out. But"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "a lot of times more a lot of times the third eye doesn't help me out at all. But when I talk to people like when I"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "talk to analysts or other people, they always, oh, you can, you know, you see this third eye, but it's not always"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "open. Yeah. It's a it's it's strange how how it all works. And we're still trying to"}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "figure that out. And you know, back to Ed Edwin May doing Dr. May doing these"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "uh you know, this study on on psychic ability, you know, I had asked him too."}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "I was like, \"Is it a frequency?\" And he's like, \"No, we tested that too.\" He's like, \"We put them in a submarine"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "and, you know, had them remote view.\" And arguably they had better sessions, you know, down where there was no"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "frequency um because they were more calm, I guess, you know, and less interference. Um, so yeah, we're still"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "mystified on what exactly it is, but it's interesting that you say that you're having guides sort of help you uh"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "with this information. I think that's like a really interesting sort of take on this. Have you do you interact"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "regularly with these guides like day-to-day type deal? Not every day, but they're there."}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "They're my I guess they're my guardian aim helpers. We all have helpers. Yeah. you're just sort of more aware of"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "of that relationship. Yes. That's really interesting. And that's I mean, you know,"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "for me it's interesting because there's also data here. There's also your your sessions that are incredibly, you know,"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "um accurate. So that, you know, it makes me it definitely makes me wonder and makes me look at this in a in a whole"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "new light, so to speak. Um okay, so we're wrapping up your time"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "here at Stargate now. How many sessions roughly would you say you were doing"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "monthly? How many would would sometimes would one not sessions but how many"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "targets would you would you do monthly? Was it like one and every day for eight hours you're doing the same target or"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "No, no, we could we could only work maybe one hour a day. If I worked operationally, I was probably working"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "one hour a day because that because it would you'd be spent. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can't. In fact,"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "after the level Wyoming, I couldn't I I just couldn't work for a while. I said,"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "I I can't work anymore. I just something like in my brain went it must have blew a fuse or something because I just"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "couldn't work. I said I said I can't do anything. Um so my boss said, \"Well, we'll give"}, {"start": "01:27:15", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "you, you know, three or four days off.\" I mean, I still had to go to work and um and I said, \"No, I think it's going"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "to take longer than three or four days.\" And it took me a while before I could go back and and um work and and we were"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "under human use, so they couldn't force me. That's right. We were under human use, so they couldn't force me to work."}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "Yeah. Um I've also felt that sort of quote unquote psychic fatigue by doing"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "the remote viewing sessions. It's exhausting. I would invite anyone if you're"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "interested in doing remote viewings, we by the way run a weekly remote viewing."}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "Um, we have a target, a weekly target that we do in our Discord for our interns, we call them, but the members"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "here on the channel, and they're able to do that with one of the uh, operatives that we have there, we call them. And,"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:09", "text": "uh, he runs this weekly thing. And I've done a lot of these sessions and I'll tell you, after you do two"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "sessions, oh, it's exhausting. You're just like, I just want to relax now. Like it's there's something about"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "it that I don't even know what it is cuz it's not it's not like it's not like you're fatigued like uh it's kind of"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "like after you're done reading a book, you know, like after you've read a few chapters like I just need to put this"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "away. I can't read anymore. And that's kind of what that's like too. Yeah. Oh yeah. I had a then even when I"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:37", "text": "teach remote viewing classes I you know I'll do maybe one or two targets a night"}, {"start": "01:28:37", "end": "01:28:44", "text": "and but I can't and but I will give them during the week I'll give them something to do but and I keep telling them be"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:49", "text": "careful you don't want to go into burnout and I've been in burnout. Mhm. I've been in burnout"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "where you just done too many targets, too demanding, just too the hostages was I was overloaded on that"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "emotionally. Every way. Every every way. Emotionally, remote viewing wise."}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "Were you ever cuz like you know I've I've read uh you know Joe's books and I've read I've even read uh you know Ed"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "Dame's books and there was it seemed to be a heaviness about a lot of these uh"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "targets. Um, did that ever did that ever affect you? Oh, sure. Sure. Oh, sure."}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "Like the conditions of the hostages and that type of thing. Oh, sure. Absolutely. The heaviness. It was depressing."}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "Yeah. And and that's because you were perceiving their fear or their hopelessness."}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "It's just a depress. It just just depressing. Yeah. And you got to live in that. You have to"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "work through it. Yeah. Yeah. You have to work through it. That must be That must be really tough to It was tough. It was tough"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "to want to go into work and do that. I just liked it when I was right. I just"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "like the feedback, you know, like, oh, we got, you know, yeah, you were helping, you were helping people, which, you know, made it all"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "worthwhile, I'm sure. But in the interim, that's got to be tough to even, you know, you're watching a movie out"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "there, you watch something like, you know, some sad movie, it affects you, you know, it's it's a weight. you you"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "you're we're all empathetic to a certain degree, most of us, and and we, you know, put ourselves in other people's"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "positions, but I is is that those feelings that you're perceiving,"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "are you generating the same emotion that the person is going through, is that how you're perceiving that?"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "So, sometimes, sometimes not. Okay. Wow. Sometimes, sometimes not."}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "Wow. Yeah. It's got to take a toll. Was everybody like that or were some people a little bit more detached and they were"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "able to just I don't know because they did I didn't talk to them and they didn't talk to me."}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what they Yeah. compartmentalized."}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "Wow. This is all very fascinating to me, Angela. I got to say I'm I'm very, you"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "know, because people say anything they want to me, you know, it's as a as a"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "magician, right? I'm I'm trained to be uh skeptical about all this stuff,"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "right? Because magicians obviously were aware of how things work in performance"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "uh aspect and I know that I'm confident enough to know that like the amount of practice that I've had, I can if if I"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "wanted to and which I don't, but I could convince someone that I have psychic ability based on just the skill that I"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:32", "text": "have. And so as a magician, we have to be responsible. There's a responsibility for that type of power, if you will,"}, {"start": "01:31:32", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "that we have to let the audience know that this is a performance. It's fiction. We're having fun and we're kind"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "of doing it for entertainment. But in that, we start understanding methods and"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "we start understanding how things work. And naturally, that makes us a little"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "more skeptical than everyone else. But it wasn't until I tried it myself"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "that I fully understood that, wait a second, there's something here. I might not be really good at this. But I had"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:07", "text": "results that showed me I don't I don't have to be amazing at it"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "to understand there's something here. And if anyone out there has a a little"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "bit more ability than I do, I mean, that's going to be very useful to someone. You know, that that was very easy for me to understand. So, you know,"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "I' I'd urge anyone listening, if there is a seed of doubt in your mind about,"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "you know, the testimony that Angela's given here or any of the other remote viewing stuff that I've mentioned in the"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "past, if there's any doubt, u try for yourself. You know, have some fun with it. Set up a target. Would is that"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "something you would recommend? Oh, sure. And it and that it's a Yes. It doesn't go against religion. It doesn't"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "go against belief system. If you're curious and you want to try it, you can. It's a technique. Absolutely. I would I"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "would recommend that. Are you Do you have synesthesia? Yes. You do. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "Because that was This is interesting because um that was one of the things they found out later on that the"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "psychics that they had worked with at Stargate were mostly cyn. They all had"}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "uh some form of sesthesia which is like perceiving color as a sound or you know your senses sort of get mixed up in that"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:21", "text": "way. different amalgamation of all that. But um what is your sesthesia like?"}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "Colors. Colors. I see colors around people. You see colors around people? Aura. Auras."}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:32", "text": "Really? Do you see mine?"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "I think What color do you like better, blue or green? They kind of mean the same thing. Oh, I haven't thought of I guess blue."}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "Okay. Yeah. A balance. Um yeah, blue and green mean pretty much the same, but"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "it's balance. Um me, you're a good mediator. You're probably a good"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "researcher. You can dissect information. Um"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "you can deal with a lot of information at one time and just break it down. You can deal with a lot of information"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "and break it down into simple simplicity. You're probably a good writer. Are you a"}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "good writer? I am. Yeah. I like to think so. Yeah. Good writer. Um people that have"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "blue, they have they they look at the world like they look at humanity. They"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "look at the they look at the whole picture um more so than the green person may. So the blue people sort of um they"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "get the whole picture. They see the whole picture. They can solve problem. They can solve big problems."}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "They they get the big picture. But yeah, blue. And do you exercise? People blue"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "like to exercise. Yeah, I like to exercise. You like to feel the wind? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. You're blue. Yeah. Sorry. The blue and green I get a little bit confused on. Yeah. Very cool. Wow. And And so that's"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "a way um you know that uh that's one of the things that Dr. May found was a"}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "indicator of high sort of psychic ability. uh one of many indicators, but"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "one that really stood out was having synthesia. Being able to perceive these different senses in this way, like"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "almost like the brain of people who have sesthesia is like wired a little"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "differently to absorb information. Um"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "I guess I guess I'm just kind of curious on what that might be like, but it's it's probably hard to put into words,"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "I'm sure. Well, sometimes when you can identif when you see a color around a person that gives me a lot of"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "information and they become very predictable to me. Oh yeah. They become I know they become very"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "predictable and that and and how you would handle a how you would treat a"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "person with the different um it it just just gives me information."}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "Yeah. It's like some type of character type. Like you're you're already given some information, so you're like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "you know, it's probably going to be an uphill battle with this person.\" And yeah, that type of deal. Like if if I want Yeah."}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "Okay. All right. Now, I'd like to get into some of the more fringe stuff."}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "Okay. This is uh this is, you know, I've been waiting for this. Um you know, obviously I'm into the"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "extraterrestrial stuff, into UFOs. Uh, were you ever were you ever given a target that had to do with any of that?"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "Yeah, I think Ed May with his Mars targets. Yeah. Okay. But um I I always knew they were his"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "Mars targets cuz he would lead you. Um but no, but I've had I've I've had two"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "UFO sightings and that I had um and I've"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "also had, you know, a few minutes with an ET. So, I've seen"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "Can you talk us through? Let's start with the sightings. Well, I was about 12 or 13 years old. I"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "was in Pennsylvania and there were a group of us. We were young kids and we just got done playing baseball"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "and we were it was that time between dawn between dusk, you know, right whenever would get dark. So, we had to"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "quit playing. And we were walking across the baseball field and you heard this swish swish swish swish swish. And this"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "UFO just went right over our heads. And we just It was green. It was round and"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "we just we were we screamed. We The grown-ups came out and saw it. So, that was a UFO sighting."}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "How How big was this? It was big. I mean, what was it made of? Like, was it a light or"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "It was light. It was just green. It was just light. And how how low do you think it was? It was over our heads. Just over your"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "heads. And the size of what? What would you compare it to? Oh, it was big. Like big like a house or big like a car?"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "Big like a car. Okay. It was big. And it was just glowing green. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "Like a sphere. Like a sphere. Whoa. So that was the first one. Then in 2010"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "when I retired from the government, not long after that, I had I saw another UFO"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "and it was big too. I felt like it was it was just hovering and it was white"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "and it was sphere. It was a sphere too. But then there was one time I felt like"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "I went through a portal and I saw I think it was one of the ones the grays."}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "Are they the ones with the black eyes? Yeah. Yeah. White. And I saw that and in this for a"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "split sec I felt like I knew the from before cuz I when I looked at him and I"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "felt it was male energy. I said, \"Hey, how you doing? Long time no see.\" And so"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "I felt like we knew each other. And then he took this he took this I think he had"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "like a stick I guess a probe and he was probing me. And then whenever he was done, I took the pro and then I did it"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "to him and then he left. It was like very playful. How old were you in that?"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "Well, I retired. So, how old was I was? Oh, you were an adult. Yeah, I was in my 50s. Wow."}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "Yeah, cuz I retired. Where did this happen? Uh, in my where I live in Maryland."}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "It was in your home. In my home. Were you in like a hypnopic or hypnogogic state? Was this prior to"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "sleep or after waking up? What was the uh what was the context of of where you were and what you were doing?"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "I probably was I was probably outside um you know walking probably doing"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "something outside and it's kind and I just went through a portal and it was like oh hey how you doing? How how strange. And and when that ended"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "were you just kind of bewildered or were were you in a different location? No, I was like hey come back. I wasn't I"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "wasn't ready for him to leave. How long do you think that encounter lasted? Oh, not long."}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "Not long. Not long. It wasn't long. 30 seconds or a couple minutes? Couple of minutes. Couple minutes."}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "Whoa. Less than 10 minutes, but it was more. It wasn't a couple of seconds. Do you feel like you"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "you've had like interactions that you can't remember with these cuz like you said, there was like a familiarity there"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "like when you saw it. Oh, I think we've been with them before. I mean, I think they've I believe in reincarnation. I believe that we've been"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "here before and we've been with them before. So that all makes that's what I thought of."}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "That was a feeling you got. Yeah. And then then I lived in my apartment, my UFO apartment. Did I ever"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "tell you about that? No. Um your UFO apartment? Yeah. Um I was living in Arlington,"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "Virginia, but whenever I took the psychic program, I wanted to move closer to I I moved to the city because it kept"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "it kept me closer to Fort Ne. and I was living with my sister. So, I had a"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "friend at the time. Her name was Ruth. And Ruth was older than me. She was in her 60s. And I said, \"Ruth, I got to"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "move in. I need to move into the city. I don't want to go to Maryland from Virginia. I'll never make it on time.\""}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "So, we were walking around and she said, \"See that apartment building? I used to live there and it's really nice.\" So, we"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "went up and we rang the door and we talked to the manager and we went and looked at an apartment. And so we we"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "took I took the apartment. Well, about and I moved in there with my sister and"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "it was a one-bedroom apartment. Now about a year and a half, two years later, the"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "apartment manager said that the our neighbors were moving out that we could have that apartment, which was two"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:46", "text": "bedrooms, and he'd keep the rent low. So, we took it. So I told Ruth, I said, \"Ruth, I'm now I'm in I think 203"}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "instead of 202.\" She said, \"Oh my goodness, that was the apartment that um"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "I used to live in.\" So that apartment um"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "I I got a call one time from a who was Whitley was it Whitley Striber? He"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "Whitley Striber Striber He did communion. Yep. He was in DC one time and a congressional man"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "wanted to meet with him but they didn't have time because Whitley had to um"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "catch an airplane back to New York. So they met in my apartment. So Whitley came to my apartment and um"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "and then you know sooner or later some people would come to my everybody that came to my apartment you know they"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "talked about I see UFO. I'm like I see UFOs and I said well how do you see them? And they said, \"Well, you can see"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:42", "text": "them.\" And um so all these people would come in with these UFO stories. So"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "finally one night Ruth, my friend Ruth, like she was ringing the door and she said, \"I want to come up. I have two of"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:55", "text": "my friends with us. We want to see the apartment.\" Cuz she used to live there and her friends used to. So they came up"}, {"start": "01:42:55", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "and Ruth said, \"Oh.\" And you know, she went in one bedroom and said, \"This was my baby's room.\" And and there was one"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "woman there, Matteline. And Matteline said, \"Ruth, do you remember what happened in this apartment?\" And Ruth"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "said, \"No.\" And Madeline said, she said, Madeline worked for a man named Adamsky."}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "He was an Egyptian researcher. George Adansky. She worked for him. And no way."}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "And the very first UFO film was filmed in that apartment. Whoa."}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "Whoa. The synchronicity. That's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. What a mind-blowing experience"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "that was. And I was like, \"No wonder everybody that comes through here, it was like a magnet.\" It was. Yes, it was. And it the"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "apartment was 203, which was a five. And anything that deals with a five"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "numerology deals with UFOs and everything that if you go into any"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:59", "text": "structure that is a five, it's very different. When you walked into my apartment, if you went into any other bu"}, {"start": "01:43:59", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "apartment in that building, everything was on the right. You walked"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "into that one, everything was on the left. It was different. And you look at the Pentagon, it's five"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "sides. Yeah. Yeah. But if anything with the And I noticed that even when people live in a if they"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "give me their address, they're in a five. I say a lot of adventure comes through. a lot of travel, adventure."}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. George Adamansky is an interesting guy. Uh, you know, he had he was like the the original Orthon sort of"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "contactee back in the 50s and, you know, spawned I think a whole, you know, swell"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "of interest around this. Uh, you know, he was I think he was the first. Was he the first or was it a Dan Fry or it"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "might have been a Damsky or Dan Fry uh in the early 50s that started having"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "contact with these quote unquote space brothers uh which you know lasted for"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "years afterwards and continues even to this day to be talked about. But very interesting that that happened there."}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:09", "text": "And I noticed the people that saw UFOs, their hookup was different. Like I'm a channelist, you know, so I'm but there"}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "they were just diff it was just different. There was something different about them. Yeah. Whoa."}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "They after a while I started noticing the people coming in in UFOs and there"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "was something very different about them. Yeah. That's that's a really interesting thing. Wow. Interesting. I didn't I"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "don't Okay. Wow. Something to look into. Um do you do you still regularly do"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:41", "text": "sessions? Remote viewing sessions? Yeah. Yeah, I work for Ed May sometimes."}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, he's gets some money sometimes and he looks at certain things, but yeah, I"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "do remote view for Ed May. Do you um ever find yourself"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "doing it for yourself or for your own personal knowledge? Sometimes. Sometimes."}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "Yeah. How is that? Um,"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "now here's the other thing with remote viewing a lot of times too is like when it's done for personal gain, it really"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "doesn't work that well. Well, you lose objectivity. I see. It's you I mean I do I mean I do tarot"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "cards. I do I I do automatic writing. I do tarot cards. I do remote viewing. I I"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "do different tools. It depends on what a person wants. If somebody wants to know"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "um you know about a loved one on the other side, I'll do the channeling. So it's I have different tools depending on"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "what people want. Would this put you on the spot? Would you be open to doing a session today?"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "Yeah, I'll do a session. Really? Yeah, I need a Yeah, I'll get you a pen and paper. Okay. What do you need? Pen, pencil, and"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "paper. Pen and paper. Um Okay. And do I do I set a target aside or"}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "how do you want me? No, I you want a remote view or do you want just information on a regular reading?"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "Um, could be either or or you know, whatever you're open to. I'm not going to I just rather do like a reading. Not"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "sure. Yeah. Okay. Cuz when I remote view, I go down into more like an extended. So, if I can"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "just, you know, just get information like a Okay, I'll get you. Can I do You want to do one right now?"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "Yeah. Exciting. Okay. I'll write back. Well, you you want a reading? Do you"}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "want a reading? I mean, I'm open to it. When's your birthday? This is real simple. This is real simple stuff, but go ahead. When's"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "your birthday? March 22nd. What year, Mary? 1984."}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "Oh, okay. Um, you're you were born into this life. You're a communicator."}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "You actually you actually have some you're actually a healer also. Um, you"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "work very well with others. Um, and you're a natural leader, but you you're"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "and you're you're a communicate. You're a writer. You're a writer. Hold on. Let's see what's going on with you this"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "year. What went on? Oh, wow. Did you have a lot of changes"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "this past year? Yeah, I would say so."}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "Okay. Uh, the changes that you had this year were they were needed. Um, you"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "probably look forward to some of the changes. Maybe some of the changes you didn't want, they were forced. But what"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "it does, it's setting you up for 2026 to have more um it's going to be more"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "financial gain in 2026. And that's what this year, this past year, it's sort of"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:43", "text": "like you were reshuffled or um trying to get a realignment or"}, {"start": "01:48:43", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "reshuffled. But it this past year 2025 would have represented change for you."}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "All right. So we're getting we're getting money in 2026. Is that it's it's the it's Yes."}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "Nice. Okay. And that usually starts on your birth. Your birthday is your new year. Oh, interesting. I like that."}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "Yeah. So, um yeah, you're and you are Yeah, you probably are blue. the two."}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "You're uh you probably are the uh aura blue when I look at the but go ahead and"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "ask a question. I get questions. Okay. And this is about"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "my path or my Okay. Let me ask you this. Um"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "what's what's the purpose of this what I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "doing now? Okay, there goes channeling. Okay. Oh,"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "to bring awareness uh to bring awareness to people, to open"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "people's eyes, to help people evolve, and to bring truth to people. They said"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "truth is truth, light is light, truth remains truth, and light remains light."}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "um that"}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "it's it's to bring awareness. Um you're doing it in a gent in a very"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "gentle way on all of how you're doing this and how you're going about trying"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "to educate people. You're doing it in a very loving and gentle way, which is"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "important. Um but yeah, you just want to uh you just want to make people more aware of"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "You're communicator. You're a communicator. You're a But you're also a healer, too. So, in a way, through all"}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "of this work, you're going to help heal people, too. Wow."}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "Yeah. They love it. Keep up the good work."}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "Yeah, you're doing good. When you say they, my guides."}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "Fantastic. Well, right back at him."}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "Incredible. Thank you. Thank you for that. Wow. Did not expect that today."}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "That's um it's lovely to hear that uh that I'm on some sort of right path, you"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "know. um as someone who is responsible for you"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "know like it or not an audience you know and I in in my own"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "silly little way am shaping and influencing people's minds."}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "Um, and I know that and I'm aware of that and that's a big responsibility to to to harbor um without getting um like"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "my own without getting in my own way like my ego and stuff, right? So, I've always uh I've always sort of revered"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "the position I'm in uh knowing that there are people out there that will,"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:52:01", "text": "you know, hang on every word or believe everything I say. And that's to me that's a lot of responsibility that I"}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "and so I'm always trying to keep this um open openness to everything, you"}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "know, and that's uh that's I guess been the goal here is to"}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "yeah, let people know and hopefully help the conversation thrive, you know, through these conversations that we're"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "having and and ones like this, letting people's minds make make up their own reality, so to"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "speak. Um thank you for that, Angela. You're welcome. It's very kind of you. Um, and thank you"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "to your guts. Shadow shadow of the guts. Um, I do have a question. You let me"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "know if you're comfortable with this. Uh, and this I'm only asking because there would be definitely a follow-up"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "question here by my audience. I can foresee it already. Um, when you were on the Shawn Ryan show, you had stopped at"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:53:03", "text": "a certain question. Do you know what I'm referring to? Everybody asked about that. Have you looked into Have you tried to look into"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "religion at all, such as the crucifixion?"}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:19", "text": "Do you have Do you not want to talk about that?"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "Okay. And and I I' I'd be a poor interviewer if I didn't ask it myself. Okay. First of all, I was shocked that"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "he asked the question. When he asked the question, I I just I just I was in shock, but um I stopped"}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "because there was no way I was going to answer that question on that podcast because I do know that he gets a lot of"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "um he gets his audience is mainstream. A lot of his audience is mainstream. So,"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "there was no way I was going to I was just not going to answer that. But no, I did not. But the truth of the matter is"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "is no, I did not um remote view to the crucifixion. Okay. I think it was just more in shock that"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:09", "text": "he had asked it. He kind of asked it excitedly or he thought I I don't know."}, {"start": "01:54:09", "end": "01:54:15", "text": "Um you just weren't comfortable. Oh, no. I wasn't comfortable with the question. I could Yeah, I wasn't"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "comfortable. Yeah. I mean, it's a strange question to be comfortable with, but you know, people can remote view the"}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "past. So if you want to I mean but I wouldn't want to remote view the crucifixion. That would be so sad."}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. And what do you Yeah. What do you take from that?"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "Right. As a as a remote viewer, you're like, \"Oh, it's it's horrific.\" Yeah. I mean, who would Yeah. And they"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:43", "text": "And I And I remember they would do I think one of the remote viewing sites we"}, {"start": "01:54:43", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "had was MSAD. I would remember that how the Jews took um Oh, yeah. And I remember the very first"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "time I did the I don't even know why we would have even had that in a target pull for training. But the first time I"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "did it, I got massage and I it was uncomfortable. Well, here um a couple of"}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "years later, I think the the target was pulled from me again and I just wouldn't do it."}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:14", "text": "It just something something came over me. Something came over me. it like it"}, {"start": "01:55:14", "end": "01:55:20", "text": "blocked me and I and it was like I'm not doing this again because it was so uncomfortable. Yeah. So I decided not to do it."}, {"start": "01:55:20", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "Uncomfortable in the sense that like emotionally you were just like Yeah. Those dudes were they were poisoning themselves to kill themselves."}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "And so the second time I did not know it was the mada sight but I knew something came up. It was something stopped me and"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "said don't do it. Okay. Yeah. And you got to listen to that. Yeah. And and I just I couldn't I said"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "I'm not doing it. Great. Yeah. Thanks for answering that question. Do you ever perceive um did"}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "you have you ever perceived any channeling from any entity other than"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "human like um cuz you know channeling is just"}, {"start": "01:55:57", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "like your your guides are coming through you but have you ever perceived because we have these channelers that are out there you know whether it's Bashar or uh"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "ma mainly Bashar because that or um there there's some other ones too if you look at like the book of raw and like"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "you know these type of contact cases where they were channeling some entity to come through them and speak through"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "them. Uh, has that ever happened to you during these channelings? You mean like the entity coming through"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:27", "text": "me? Yeah. No, that's trans channeling and I don't do that. You don't do that by choice or or just"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "It just never h it just never happens. Yeah. It's my forte is automatic writing."}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "It Yeah. I just, you know, if an entity want it to come through, I don't let it come through"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "because it's not I actually just spoke to a gentleman um his name is Jose\u00e9 Hafreia. He was uh Spanish Air Force"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:50", "text": "1971. He uh he was on on duty night shift and"}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "the dogs are barking and he's like, \"What's going on? These trained dogs are going nuts right now.\" Giant UFO"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "overhead, big flying disc. It takes off. They run to the guard house. to get the other guys and then they hear the dogs"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "and they go outside and there's this tall luminous being standing there. They start opening fire on it cuz they're like army guys. Uh it runs, hits the"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "fence, leaves a hole in the fence and only years later uh you know he he went on a quest after"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "this to figure out like what was that that night that I saw this tall blonde"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "sort of like uh entity that was there. And so he started researching UFOs. He"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "would he would, you know, go to see witnesses. He got passionate about it. He's like, I want answers. And he"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "couldn't find answers there. And this led him to a more sort of es down an esoteric path where he started learning,"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "you know, meditation. Um, he learned all sorts of like healing and and eventually"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "got into automatic writing. And it was through the automatic writing that he"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:03", "text": "was able to communicate with this being he called Shadim. Okay. And it would come through in terms of"}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "writing and then they set up a meeting date and apparently he met this being. Yeah. So I was I was just that was the"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "basis of the question there. Was there do you ever feel like there was any other influence or was it always just"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "No, it was mostly um it was just mostly my my guy. they call joy guides and"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "they're just um entities on the other side that maybe didn't that don't didn't have p that don't have past lives or"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "if they ever lived they're just they're called joy guides is what I was told how"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "I was taught. Cool. Very cool. And they're funny. They're funny. They have a sense of"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "humor. I like that. Are you familiar with um Journey of Souls, Dr. Michael Newton?"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "Yes. that one of my one of my favorite series of books um because it kind of"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "bundles up our existence in a nice neat package and I like that uh you know my"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:03", "text": "it's it it fills all the the plot holes that one would have about life."}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "Yeah, it's it's funny. I mean even whenever you talk to people on the other side it's it's just funny."}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. We get that a lot too that they're like uh they're tricksters almost and pranking each other and like"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "like laugh like mocking gently mocking us and um there was the one story where he uh"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "this person through their hypnotic regression you know went to the other side and as soon as he got to the other"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:34", "text": "side everyone was sort of laughing at him because of how vain he was in that lifetime and he's like oh gosh and like"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "I was kind of vain and and you know that it's nice for me to hear that they would have a sense of humor, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "suppose. Okay. Would you like to answer some questions?"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "Sure. I have an audience uh I have my audience ready and waiting. Okay. I'm going to go turn on this camera back"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "here and we'll get into these. Okay. Okay."}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "Fun, right? Um listen here. Have you ever encountered a person with sigh"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "ability that was perhaps guarding or blocking you from obtaining information"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "from Karinda? Yeah. Who Who's Karinda? Discord member. Yep."}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "Okay. Um yes, I do. Um"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:31", "text": "Oh, that have the sigh abilities that was guarding. Okay. Sometimes when"}, {"start": "02:00:31", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "people ask a person with their own side yeah I"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "mean if people don't want me to know something and they're blocking I'm not going to get the information whether"}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "they have sigh ability whether they don't I've read people uh I've when I"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "sometimes I read people that are very private people and it's very hard to"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "gain information from that and if somebody does not want you to know something you're not going to get"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:06", "text": "Was there ever a did you ever feel a presence when trying"}, {"start": "02:01:06", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "to like infiltrate a more sensitive area that didn't want you there? Because"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "there are stories of uh Joe McMongle I think in mind or even Ingo Swan mentions"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:22", "text": "this where they would go to a place and it would be almost like a century was"}, {"start": "02:01:22", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "there preventing you from going further and like kind of like what are you doing here?"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "Yeah. it like like I always tell people, I'm going to I'm going to give you information that I'm receiving. I can't"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "give you information if I don't receive it. So maybe there is information out there"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "that maybe it just maybe not meant for just not meant for us to have it. I see."}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "And you have to accept that. You have to honor that. Yeah. If you're not meant to have it, you're not going to get it. And if somebody is"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:57", "text": "somebody's blocking or they don't want you to, you're not going to get the information."}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "There was actually something that I wanted to talk about. We touched on it earlier before the podcast, but um"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:08", "text": "meeting your Russian counterparts. You were you were you were sent or"}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "summoned to Russia, I suppose, um or invited in 19 in when the Cold War ended in"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "1991, the Soviet Union no longer existed. And so Dr. May, he was h he was on contract"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "by our government. He said, he says, \"I'm going over to Russia.\" He said, \"This is the most open the country's"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "ever going to be.\" He said, \"I want to find out, you know, he we had an idea"}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:41", "text": "who this who the scientists were.\" He wanted to know what were they working, what was the paranormal research being"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "conducted. So he started to go over there and he started to make several trips. Well, after a while they trusted"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:54", "text": "him and they said, \"Do you want to meet the general who was ahead of the psychic"}, {"start": "02:02:54", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "program?\" And he said, \"Yes.\" And he met uh Savin, General Savin. And then him"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "and Joe went over and they met some remote viewers. Now, because Ed kept going over there,"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "he started to meet the high ups. I mean, this was in the 1980s. They were spying"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "on us. We were spying on them. stories were being told. So there was a book"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:23", "text": "written in English, ESP Wars, East versus West. And then there was a book"}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "written in Russian, ESP Wars, West versus East. So the book whenever it was"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:38", "text": "published, we got invited by a Russian by a a Russian newspaper to go over and"}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "they held a reception in our honor. Um, so we went over in December 2015"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:52", "text": "and we met I met the general who was in charge of the K I think he was in second of charge of the KGB. And"}, {"start": "02:03:52", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "you met this person? Yeah. Oh my goodness. Okay. And um he he he was um"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "they said he was making like like weaponry, psychic weaponry. And then we met the man who taught the PK, the"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:14", "text": "movement of objects. He inv he was a he was a psychiatrist and also a regular"}, {"start": "02:04:14", "end": "02:04:19", "text": "doctor and he was teaching psychology at the University of Moscow. So, we went to"}, {"start": "02:04:19", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "his classroom and he showed us we we went down into the rooms where they taught the the PK how to move objects"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "and we met a psychic healer who um was very popular in Russia, but he traveled"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "with the he traveled with Yeltson and with Gorbachev."}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "um he was there, he would travel with them because he had to protect them psychically to make sure that they would"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "that they weren't getting harassed by other psychics or something or that they weren't going to be, you"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "know, killed, you know, like assassinated. Now what we found out while you know because of this book what"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "we found out because Russia has a long history with shamanism the Russians accepted this phenomena"}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:13", "text": "much more easily than the United States. They had an easier time with it and"}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "because of it they did more with it. Um we only remote viewed because of the MK"}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "Ultra. The CIA had the MK Ultra and messed with people's minds. So by the"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "time our program came along, there was human use involved. They could not mess"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "with our minds and we were only contracted to do remote viewing. So then we met some of their psychics"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:44", "text": "and we asked them, \"How did you do?\" We asked them, they said, \"What method did you use?\" And they channeled. They were"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "channelists. Really? Whoa. And we said, \"How do you train people?\""}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "And they said, \"We we teach them how to open the channel.\" They were doing what I was doing."}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:06:01", "text": "Wow. The one what I was getting my heart Yeah. what they were giving you a hard time for."}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:07", "text": "And that's what they were doing. What was that like? That was that like a oh my gosh sigh of relief or"}, {"start": "02:06:07", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "Yeah. I'm like son of a gun. They they're channeling. They're channeling. Now when they when they introduced you"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "to this general and this uh you know second in command of the KGB, he said uh"}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "to you that he was developing psychotronic weaponry. I Well, I think Ed found that out before"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "found that out before we went over. Not something he would share publicly. Not something he probably shared with you."}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "He didn't share it with me, but but Ed Ed had that history with him, right? Cuz that is something that the,"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "you know, whether it's the Russia or the Chinese or the Americans, it's probably"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "the number one, you know, on their agenda is like how do we weaponize this? you know, if you're looking at the"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "military. Um, and then did you see did he demonstrate anything this other"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:01", "text": "person showing you the um the PK stuff? Yeah, they tr Yeah, they were trying to they were trying to work with me. They"}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:09", "text": "ran me through the tests through the PK stuff. What was the test like? Well, you had to stand back and um"}, {"start": "02:07:09", "end": "02:07:15", "text": "you stood back and you tried to move something, but then they could ga they could more or less gauge it. somehow I"}, {"start": "02:07:15", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "was hooked up to stuff so they could, you know, I didn't move anything. I'm not PK oriented. I've tried it before."}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:30", "text": "Um, but I just wanted to try it and see how they taught it, but I didn't move anything. But they they gauge it, I"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:36", "text": "guess, or whatever. Yeah, they got instruments that can they can tell you if you're affecting the object or whatever."}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "Oh, that's interesting. You know, there's a lot of um a friend of mine who you know obviously Jesse Michaels uh he"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "had interviewed uh Dan Sherman recently and he was hired I think by the NSA to"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "sort of look into like these type of oscilloscopes and affect the frequency in here and so you know even though"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:03", "text": "non-physical still almost telekinetic right interesting um or psychoinetic I would"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "say um okay cool I'm glad We talked about that. That's"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "that's super interesting meeting. You're also the Russian equivalent of Oh, we want to do it. Ed Mayer and I are"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "trying to do a documentary because we want to show we we want to show like what they did what we did. Uh and so now"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "we're just trying to get we have a producer. We're just trying to get some funding up so we can do a documentary."}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "Well, I wish you nothing but the best. I mean, that that would be really interesting. I'd love to see the the"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:41", "text": "dichotomy or maybe even the comparisons of both the methodies there and like, you know, did anything get leaked on"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "purpose? Was there, you know, I mean, that was a a crazy time to be alive when"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "information was, you know, being disseminated between the two countries. You never knew what was real and what"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:58", "text": "wasn't. I'm sure a lot of people even thought that, you know, the psychic stuff was just a bunch of hubbhub that"}, {"start": "02:08:58", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "the Russians were creating in order to throw us off the scent, you know, and not, you know, ruled out, I'm sure, by a"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "lot of people. Okay. Um, oh, this is interesting."}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "Always good questions. Okay. [Applause]"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "Have you RVed or have an opinion on Threeey Atlas, its origin and nature? By"}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "Andy Lee Fischer. Are you aware of this giant asteroid that's like Oh, yeah. It's supposed to be coming or"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:43", "text": "something. Yes. Some people are saying it's a big alien ship. Other people are saying it's an asteroid. I have not review I have not remote"}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "viewed it. I'm very interested in it and I may go remote view it, but I'm very very interested. What do you I think I"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "hope it is something exciting. I I certainly hope it's something exciting. No, but no, I have not remote viewed it."}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:10:00", "text": "Could you keep it Could you keep me in touch if you do? Yes, I will. I will. I will go home and do it and I will and I will email you my"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "results. Absolutely. I would. That would be amazing. We'll um if Yeah, if we can do that within the next week"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "or so, I can probably attach that to this segment here and people can see the result. That would be very exciting."}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:16", "text": "Cool. All right."}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:01", "text": "[Music] Thank you, Andy Lee Fischer. Great question. Also something I was"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:06", "text": "wondering. This is something we talked about a"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "little bit, but it's the last question here."}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "Were you ever scared during any of your RV sessions by Perry? No. No. Never frightened. Okay."}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:29", "text": "Always felt very comfortable. And if you didn't, you would just I Yeah, I was never scared."}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "Okay. I I did not like some of the targets"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "like the one with the Mada, but no, I wasn't really afraid. Fair enough. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "Well, that about wraps up our time here, Angela. This has been just such a joy."}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:53", "text": "It's been a joy for me, too. Thank you so much. You're you're an amazing guest. I'm so"}, {"start": "02:11:53", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "glad we finally made this happen. You're you're just a joy to be around and to uh"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "and just a wealth of knowledge. I'm just really grateful for your time. Thank you for coming out. Thank you. You have a wealth of"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:09", "text": "knowledge, too. I appreciate you saying that and thank you for my reading. Oh, that's not a problem. Not a problem."}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "All right. Have it there. And that's a wrap."}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:21", "text": "Yeah. I want Yeah. Oh, I want to tell you about my Oh, I have stories to tell you about my guys whenever you're talking about them being negative or"}, {"start": "02:12:21", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "whatever. Yeah. I got a good story for you. And I And did I And I have a Yori Gower story for"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "you, too. Oh my god. Do you want to talk about it on the pod? Yeah, let's do the Okay, let's get back into it. All right."}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "All right. We're in overtime. Oh yeah, we got to do the Yori Galler story. Something we completely failed to"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:48", "text": "mention is that well first of all to set to set this up or Geller a famed"}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:53", "text": "mentalist magician. I'm a magician. We see you. We think he's a magician. Um"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "but we obviously have heard tons of stories about the infamous Yuri Geller"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:04", "text": "and his involvement with um the psychic program. I would love to ask you your"}, {"start": "02:13:04", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "take on Ari Geller. Okay. Well, Yuri Geller was with was with Stanford Research Institute long"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:15", "text": "before my time and then he went back to Israel. Um, he was probably in Israel by"}, {"start": "02:13:15", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "the time I got into the program in 1986. However, in 2014,"}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "there was a woman by the name of Annie Jacobson. She wrote a book, Phenomena. Yes."}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "So, she came out to my house and she interviewed me for the book. She interviewed Joe Mcmold and I think she"}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:41", "text": "and she interviewed Dale Graph. So, um, so, so she came out, she interviewed me,"}, {"start": "02:13:41", "end": "02:13:46", "text": "she talked about this book. Well, one and she told me that she went to England"}, {"start": "02:13:46", "end": "02:13:52", "text": "and she met with Yuri Geller and she interviewed him. Now Annie was not only"}, {"start": "02:13:52", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "looking at Stargate, she was looking at the whole, you know, since, you know, since World War II, since how how the US"}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:08", "text": "government used psychics. So it wasn't just centered on Stargate. So I was it I was sitting there a couple"}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "of months after she came and interviewed me, I was at my computer and she emailed"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:20", "text": "me and she said that she liked the the remote viewing session I did on the St."}, {"start": "02:14:20", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "Louis Arc and she said she wanted to use it for the book and she said she said"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:33", "text": "can you email me any information that you remember about doing the site or whatever. So I said sure and then she"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "emailed me and she says and can you do it now? She said I want to finish this up. She says I'm leaving tomorrow to go"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "to Israel to meet with Yori Galler. And I said I thought you already interviewed"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:51", "text": "Yori in England. And she said, \"I did, but he invited me to his home in Israel.\" And she says, \"I've never been"}, {"start": "02:14:51", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "to Israel, so I really want to go.\" So I said, \"Okay.\" So I did the um we've got"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:05", "text": "a nice ride up on the St. Louis Arc. So she went to she went over to um meet"}, {"start": "02:15:05", "end": "02:15:10", "text": "with Yori. She's visiting him and it's towards the end of her trip and she"}, {"start": "02:15:10", "end": "02:15:16", "text": "said, \"I'm going to buy some postcards for my family. I want to send them some postcards.\" And she says, \"We were in a"}, {"start": "02:15:16", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "tea shop.\" And so the owner of the tea shop said, \"There's a there's a shelf.\""}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "He goes, \"My postcards are on that top shelf up there.\" So Yori went and got a"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:33", "text": "postcard and whenever he picked it up, it was a it was of the St. Louis Ark."}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "Oh, cool. So anyway, I think it freaked her out. Yeah, I think she was like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:45", "text": "goodness.\" We were just talking about We were her and I were just talking about that. So anyway, he signed he signed the"}, {"start": "02:15:45", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "uh he signed the card for me and uh I have I have it. Oh, cool. There's I forgot to bring it. I should have"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "brought it. That's okay. Some strange psychic overlay there. There's and that's something that happens a lot. What not"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:05", "text": "necessarily these synchronicities which also happen a lot, but uh the psychic overlay maybe while we're here we could"}, {"start": "02:16:05", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "just touch on that real quick. Um can you describe what that might be? What that is? the psychic overlay that"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:18", "text": "psychics might experience while doing this remote viewing. Like so, okay, for instance, um if"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:24", "text": "you're given a target and someone else is given a different target, how you might be able to pick up on Oh, sure, sure, sure."}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:29", "text": "their target or Oh, sure. It's just energy. Yeah. Oh, it's just energy. You know, like if"}, {"start": "02:16:29", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "somebody wants to come to me and they want to talk to their deceased mother while I'm picking up the deceased aunt,"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:42", "text": "you're getting what you're going to get what you get. Okay. um you know well and they'll say well I don't want to talk to my aunt I"}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "want to talk to my mother I'm like well you know just be thankful that somebody's there that will talk to you"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "but I don't yeah that happens that happens it happens also with like high entropic"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "sort of uh events as well right like if you're um targeting something mundane"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "but next to that target is a nuclear facility you're going to the okay we had two targets when I worked for um there were"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "two training targets. One was the National Security Agency's building, NSA. NSA does signal. So, you get that"}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "building and it's it's a high, you know, it's in, you know, you're getting energy there. And right beside the building is"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "Edgar Alan Poe's grave. Okay. So, if a"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "remote viewer was given Edgar Allen Poe's grave, they're not they're not going to go to the grave. They're going"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "right to the NSA building. It's Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Has that happened with you?"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "Yes. Yes. Yes. You're going to where the the the signal where the signal is the"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "loudest. That's where you're going. Now, more people that weren't even"}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "psychic will come to me and a lot of people had premonitions of 911."}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:05", "text": "Wow. That signal must have been pretty strong because a lot of people that don't even consider themsel I had a dream that 9/11"}, {"start": "02:18:05", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "was going to happen. I had a feeling 911. So it it's yeah was the signal must have"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "been that strong. There's also the random event generator. Do you hear about this? I think but go ahead."}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:24", "text": "Yeah, it was like a basically plays out ones and zeros on these servers uh pretty evenly, pretty randomly. And"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "sometimes they'll have deviations that are like higher than the standard deviation. Uh so they'll have spikes in"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "ones or spikes in zeros. And the biggest spike they've ever had was on 9/11. The"}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "biggest spike they've ever had since doing this was on 9/11. So I think that that, you know, as well is like a even"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:49", "text": "like that's that's a metric, you know, you can actually measure that that okay, we don't know what's about to happen,"}, {"start": "02:18:49", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "but something big is going to happen. And it did. Yeah. Okay. All right. That's it for overtime."}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:15", "text": "Okay. Thank you, Angela. [Music]"}]

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What have your thoughts been"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "on"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "whether or not it was possible for the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "pyramids to be created as there as"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "they've said and what the timeline you"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "thought it was of when they were"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "actually created versus when we're told."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Now, you mentioned earlier, you were"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "talking about how some of the structures"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "we found, I can't remember if it was"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Carahan tappy, Gomeckley tappy, or all"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "the above,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> had some sphinx-like features as well."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> That's it was mainly the beard."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> it was mainly the beard thing. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> how do we explain that? Or"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> that that I don't know. I don't know. I"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "mean, it could be actual beards,"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> you know, they could have just had"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "beards at the time. I mean the other"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "thing is but they've suddenly just"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "started finding these you know at the"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "sites where they they seem to have"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "specific they almost look like the false"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "beards which you you know the sphinx"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "used to have one"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> some of the statues in Egypt have them"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "as well various pharaohs and other such"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "things and also I mean the sphinx itself"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "I think you know me and JJ think that"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "could be a leopard. 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You know, the whole a whole"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "section of that pyramid is bedrock."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "People don't realize that one corner of"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "the middle pyramid, Cath's pyramid, is"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "bedrock, carved from bedrock, and then"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "they shaped the bedrock and then built"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "blocks above it"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> cuz you can see behind it, they got like"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "all these these caves that kind of go"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "under the pyramids, which we can talk"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Didn't you like break into one of"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "these caves or something? Were you"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "telling me that before camera?"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Me? Yeah, maybe. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> illegal breakin. Now this was okay this"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "was in this was a while sort of you know"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "about a year ago we"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> pull this video up de"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> I was with Andrew Collins he he is the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "discoverer of what's known as um Giza's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "cave underworld. These are a series of"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "natural caves under the Giza plateau."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> But the entrance is called the tomb of"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the birds"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> and this is all carved out. It's like a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "chamber and then at the back there's you"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "can walk through into this area and you"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "can walk through deep into under the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Giza plateau and go and take a look and"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "he this was a sensation in 2008 when he"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "discovered it and he hadn't been back"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "there since then because he got banned"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "from going in there. It all got locked"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "up but we found out thanks to Trevor"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Grassi who's another researcher on Egypt"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> that"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "the gate was open or it wasn't locked."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "So we thought oh we'll just go and have"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "a look. Yeah, just go take a little"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "walk. Take a look. You know, it's okay."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> You know, if we get told off or"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "imprisoned, so what? You know, it'll be"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "fine."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> So, luckily, we just went to have a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "look. We thought, we're not going to"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "touch anything. We'll just go in. We"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "went in, had a look, and we went through"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "the whole cave system. It completely"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "blew my mind. I'd never been in there."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "And Andrew was delighted cuz he hadn't"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "been in there since 2008. And that he"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "was like, \"Whoa.\" and like and then a"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "few months later"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "this big story came out the whole SAR"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "scan technology with Amando Mayor"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Filippo Beyond where they did this whole"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "analysis using their satellite"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "technology"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "under the Giza player were all these"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "underground features and chambers"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> but weirdly the tomb of the birds and"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the cave system they orient directly to"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Cfray's pyramid if If you kept walking,"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "if you could get through it further,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "you'd virtually it would join up with"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "whatever's under CF's pyramid. And so I"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "think there's a connection there. And"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "even if you look around Café's pyramid"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "itself, this is the big middle pyramid"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "around the back."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> You can see all these entrances going in"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "like sloping down into the just and then"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "they're all blocked up with rubble. And"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "so I think that there's something going"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "on. I mean, not only from Andrew's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "discovery in 2008, but also from all"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "this new analysis which is being put"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "forward by this Italian team."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> Yeah. And there now there's this whole"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "latest what's underneath the pyramids"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "argument going on. I know Ben Van"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Kirkwick's been talking about it a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "bunch. Michael, this is what I was"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "referring to earlier. Michael Button and"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "I got to get to it for like a few"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "minutes, but for people out there who"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "aren't familiar with what the alleged"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "new findings are, I think my friend"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Jesse Michaels also just did a video on"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "this. What What is it that was"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "discovered and and what are the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "hypotheses that are being put forward?"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Well, the um I haven't watched the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "latest data. I've been um traveling for"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the last month. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> but in general sense, just to put it,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "you know, if people aren't aware of"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "this, yeah, this is uh this was first"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "put out in March. um last uh this year,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "March this year um 20 well March 2025"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "and there was a big press conference in"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Italy and everything else and Filipo"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Beyond he's a scientist from Italy"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Armando Me Egyptian sorry an"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Egyptologist based in Italy he's Italian"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "and they kind of created this team"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "because Filippo was doing some brilliant"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "work in before this before he was"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "interested in anything ancient he was"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "able to use this satellite um scan"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "technology basically mixed with some"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "kind of other elements to do with"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "acoustics and able to penetrate further"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "into the ground than he could before."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "And he was able to analyze bridges that"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "have fallen down. He was able to analyze"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "things that were really useful to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "people. He could help construction where"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "they know where cavities are and where"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "they aren't, things like this. And he he"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "got approached by Armando and then they"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "kind of put this team together said,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "\"Let's have a look at the Giza Plateau.\""}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "There's all these stories of stuff under"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the Giza Plateau. let's take a look. So"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "they did that and they got these"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "remarkable results and uh initially it"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "was this huge area beneath CER's pyramid"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "the central pyramid one one we've been"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "talking about"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> and then it expanded over the next few"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "months they because it uses up so much"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "computer power it takes time to analyze"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "areas really carefully and they kept"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "repeating the process to double triple"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "check you know as best they could and"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "they kept finding all these things and"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "but some of them correlated what was"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "already known to be there. So there's"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "good evidence that it it works. You"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "know, my in my opinion, I think it does."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Now, they're claiming stuff goes a"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "kilometer beneath the pyramids. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "that is what"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> two 2/3 of a mile or whatever. And that"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> hard to take when you think about it"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "because you're going you're going deep"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "into the water level to start with and"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "you you're almost reaching a point where"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "it's going to be pretty hot."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> What what are they basing the kilometer"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "take on?"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> This is based upon their data. basically"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "that they're basically uh penetrating"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "into the ground with this SAR technology"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "but using acoustics to kind of vibrate"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "it downwards. I think I think that's a"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "simple way of explaining it."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> And uh then they can kind of read the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "data and analyze it and create images"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "from that. And they've they've now been"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "analyzing many of the shafts that have"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "been investigated by people like Trevor"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Grassi. I think they're going to be"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "we've asked them to look at the tomb of"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "the birds and the gizer's cave"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "underworld because if they can get that"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "and get it accurately it'll back it'll"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "back them up."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> Are they getting a lot of resistance"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "from"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the regular crew in Egypt? I take it."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> I think that is the word. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "definitely. And I but I think it has to"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "be taken care you have to take this kind"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "of carefully because number one you've"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "got um it's it's all done from"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "satellites so basically they don't need"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "permission to do anything"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "you ask demanded they should have had"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "permission this that and the other but"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "they don't need to have that but what"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "needs to be done now as far as I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "concerned is they need to now go out on"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "the Giza plateau with GPR you can get"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "these kind of rollers you know just roll"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "them about and just do that. Just just"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "see if it matches what they found. Then"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "you can verify what they've got or what"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "they haven't got. I mean, obviously you"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "can't go down a kilometer with that, but"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "you can go down a certain amount and"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "check some of their data, see if it"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "matches up. I think that's that's what"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "they got to do. But they also got to get"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "into some of these tunnels. I mean, cuz"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "some of them are accessible. I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "know this."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> Yeah. The fact that some of them are"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "like blocked off and they're like, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "just don't look at it.\" That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> Yeah. some of them, but there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "I mean, if you look go to the Giza"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "place, it's just rubble everywhere chuck"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "chucked in any hole they can find, you"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "know, and it soon gets filled up with"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "sand."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> So, it's hard to sort of excavate. And"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "so, but these new technologies that are"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "now available, we why not take a look,"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "you know, why not just get some pinhole"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "cameras going down there? Let's see"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "what's going on. I mean, because they're"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "finding stuff in the pyramids still. I"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "mean, for God's sake, these have been"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "known about for hundreds of years."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "They're still finding stuff inside"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "pyramids because it's like solid block"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "of stone virtually, you know, obviously"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "made up a smaller box, but it's like a"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "mountain of stone. So, they're still"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "being able they can still find stuff in"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "there. Why can't they just go"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "underground a little bit and see what"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "else is being found?"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> But I think the new research, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "100% aware of it. I haven't had a chance"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "to follow up on it."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Mhm. But I think they're just now just"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "taking it and getting more detailed"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "analysis of what they've already um put"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "forward. And uh I'm I'm very interested"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "to see where this all goes to be honest"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "with you."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> The new research notwithstanding because"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "that's still developing prior to what"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "we're hearing now. What What were your"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "thoughts? What have your thoughts been"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "on"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "whether or not it was possible for the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "pyramids to be created as there as"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "they've said and what the timeline you"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "thought it was of when they were"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "actually created versus when we're told."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> So, we're told they're roughly 2,600 BC"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "onwards."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> This is like the kind of um fourth"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "dynasty."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> The first dynasty was really 3,100 BC."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": ">> This was the Scorpion King or Nama"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Menes. And the first pyramids really"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "were built towards the end of the second"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "early third dynasty at Sakara and places"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "like this. So that's probably going back"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "to 2,800 BC."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "But there's some dating, some um um some"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "luminescence type dating was done on the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Giza plateau of some of the granite on"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Manur's pyramid, the third pyramid. And"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "they found that to be this was by Robert"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Temple and also another team. He funded"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "this this project, this research. is"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "brilliant research. He spoke at our"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "conference recently and he believes that"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "that he's got dates officially that at"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "least 4 to 500 years older"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> at least."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> So we're talking first dynasty or"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> Now that's that's conservative dating. I"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "mean there's there's elements to this"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "because when you're dealing with I mean"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "you look at the chambers under the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "pyramid there are chambers there. There"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "are tunnels. There are um entire"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "complexes like the Osiris shaft which is"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "multiple levels going down with you know"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "descending passages. They could have"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "been done any time"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> because you can't date the bedrock. This"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "is the problem. And this is why getting"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "down to the bedrock where they take"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "their samples from in Turkey, they can"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "actually date it. But I don't think"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "they've got samples that far down. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "all flooded with water. And so I think"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "there's a potential of it all being much"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "much older. I think that I think that"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "has to be considered especially now with"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Gabbecley and Carahan dating because"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "there are direct connections between"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "these cultures. something that Andrew"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Collins has looked at, JJ's been looking"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "at it. You find like there's a myth from"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Haran for instance which is in the Haran"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "plane near the Gabbecepe"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "where the Sabians would have traditions"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "of coming down to specifically CF's"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "pyramid and um and underneath there"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "would be some of the sacred rooms of"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "their religion and things like this you"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "know linked with um Enoch and other such"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "things and so it's very bizarre you know"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "you find these connections you find the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "same kind arrow heads that go back to"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "the pre- pottery Neolithic in a place"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "called Helwan. There's something that"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "Claus Schmidt and Andrew looked at. You"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "get them also in Shannura. There's a"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "site actually in Shanner where one of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the statues a man was found and they're"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the same types of heads going back to"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "the same era. So, how are they in these"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "two places at once, you know? So, you"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "get all these correlations."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> I want to know how the goddamn stones"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "got there."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> Oh, man. M man. I mean I mean just just"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "the granite. I mean, you're bringing up"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "70 ton blocks of granite. What, 600 km?"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Like four or 500 miles from Azwan?"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> And then you're lifting it up above the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "king's chamber with all these layers of"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "these granite blocks. How you firstly,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "how'd you get it to the Giza plateau?"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "And then how'd you lift them up?"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> Some strong ass slaves."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": ">> Something."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": ">> Giants. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "giants. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Actually, that on that note,"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "you've done a lot of work on giants. You"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "were saying"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> myself."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": ">> So, you're a believer. Well, myself and"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Jim Vieiraa, yeah, we've uh we've"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "written two books on the subject. I"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "mean, because I mean, I'm I don't, you"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "know, I don't believe in giants or"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "anything like that, but I do believe all"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the accounts I found in the academic"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "record."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Okay, that that"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> that's what fascinates me."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> How do you say those two things at the"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "same time? I don't believe in giants,"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "but I believe all the accounts. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "like I'm not gay, but I'm kind of gay."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "But h but how do you like account for a"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "thousand reports of giant skeletons in"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "North America for instance?"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": ">> Written by academics even in the"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Smithsonian's own journals"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "by doctors and people who've dug them"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "up. Are they all lying or is there some"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "reality to it? And I think that's where"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "the problem is because we're dismissed"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "as like gientologist stupid, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "you're making it all up. But we're not."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "We found all the accounts and we're like"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "what the hell? We need to put it there's"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "something to this. We need just at least"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "we don't you know we don't necessarily"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "we haven't seen any real skeletons. I've"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "seen sort of the odd fragment here and"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "there but you have to kind of consider"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "there's something weird going on in the"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "past especially with all the myths of"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "giants everywhere as well. I mean even"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Stonehenge the original name of"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Stonehenge was the giants dance you know"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "that was the giants that was the first"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "name of Stonehenge before it became"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Stonehenge. It was only that's a Saxon"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "name that was added much much later."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "feel like we got to clean this up"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "academically."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "huge, huge help. And if you would like"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "to follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

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So the newer versions of like"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "antihistamines uh they don't cross the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "bloodb brain barrier so they don't make"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "you sleepy."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> Uh so that's a big thing with"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "pharmarmacology and even when it comes"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "to omega-3s uh your your body does make"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "omega-3s that get to the brain but it's"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "not very efficient uh from from eating"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "fish and things like that. But there is"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "a form uh of omega-3 based on the type"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "of triglyceride that you're getting in"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "that they found this transporter has a"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "very high efficiency of bringing that"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "through the bloodb brain barrier and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "getting into your neural tissue. And so"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "they've been studying it a lot in mice"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "right now um and trying to see if that"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "helps with Alzheimer's. But also they've"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "found that their rate of retinopathy uh"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "bleeding in the back of the eye from"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "things like maceneration or diabetes"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "significantly diminished when these um"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "rodents are are given this type of DHA"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "specifically."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> There are some forms now on the market"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "of this type of what's called LPC"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "lysophosphotylcholine"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "DHA."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Uh no human trials that I've seen yet."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Uh I'll admit I'm experimenting like a"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "biohacker is on myself. uh I I have no"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "way to make objective claims about it."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> Um but uh so that's that is something"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "that I think may be the next thing we'll"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "see in research that may have a strong"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "benefit for specifically for retinol and"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and brain health is these types of DHA."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "So the issue with supplements of"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "omega-3s is that when you take just"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "normal fish oil supplements, whether it"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "be a triglyceride form or ethylster form"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "because they're they're different. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "you don't get the type of isoform that"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "this special receptor pulls in. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> an isoform."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's just the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "term I'm using to describe it. um"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "because it depends where the DHA is"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "attached on the triglyceride backbone,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "right? Triglycerides and glyceride. So a"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "fat with three three different molecules"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "attached."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> And if the DHA because it could have"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "hydroxal group attached to the first"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "position, it could have uh a fatty acid"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "like a saturated fat attached to one of"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "them and then it could have the DHA."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "depending is the DHA attached to the"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "first position, the second position or"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "the third position will change how your"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "body absorbs it in the intestine and how"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "your body uses it when it's floating"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "through the body."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> And if it's in the second position, it"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "your body can metabolize it to either go"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "into the first position or in the third"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "position. If it goes to the third"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "position, that's great because then that"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "receptor will let it pass through the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "brain better. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> but all other forms of omega-3"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "supplements, they're all in the first"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "position."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> And so that could be one of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "why when people eat diet forms, uh, fish"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "in the wild, because the fish in the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "wild have more of that natural producing"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "second position."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "That may be one of the reasons why the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "research that people who eat one oily"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "fish have protective effects where"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "people who just take the supplements,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "they don't seem we don't see those same"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "effects in that research."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> What if you have someone who cuz you"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "said it's like two servings a week of"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "leafy greens and you know two servings"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "of fish, which as we said that's a low"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "bar. What if you have someone who just"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "eats a lot of leafy greens like every"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "single day and maybe they don't eat a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "lot of fish or the other way around?"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "maybe are they getting the same kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "effects that the person who eats the two"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "servings each a week is getting."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I think um people who just"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "want to eat a lot of leafy greens,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "amazing. Keep doing that. Uh and and I"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "can get into we'll go into supplements"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "of of other things on that, too. um if"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "they're not getting any omega-3s. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "I I'll admit I I wasn't truly a vegan,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "but I did a heavy plant-based diet for"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "several years. And largely because of a"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "lot of the research that I read,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "specifically around the brain and the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "retina."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "I still ate meat, but just not a whole"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "whole lot of it."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> So meat was a negative effect for the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "brain and retina."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> Um not specifically. Uh it was more of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "just like I I So my story is that I I"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "had a lot of gut issues and then I I saw"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "a lot of disease in in the eye clinic at"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the at the VA when I was doing my"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "residency. 99% of all the guys who came"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "through"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> were overweight. They had a stroke. They"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "had erectile dysfunction. They were"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "diabetic. They had high blood pressure,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "cholesterol issues. All these things"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "except for like five. There's like five"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "or six guys that entire year that came"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "in that were like in their 80s, mentally"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "clear, physically fit, no medications,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "no issues,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> [ __ ] like porn stars."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> Yeah. And I was like, exactly. And I was"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> but you have to ask Actually, they were"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "they haven't they had their wives there"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "and everything. They all looked young"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "and they're still like in their 70s,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "80s. And I would ask them like, \"What's"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "your secret?\" Right? Everybody else here"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "is sick and dying. What are you guys"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "doing? They all say diet, exercise,"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "every single one. And it didn't clicked"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "for me until I got out of the VA because"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "I thought, \"Oh, this is just the VA. All"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "this disease is just because I'm seeing"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "uh a bunch of, you know, Vietnam vets"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "who got exposed to Agent Orange or"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "something like that. That's why they"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "have all these diseases.\" But then I"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "started seeing just regular patients at"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "at the local clinic. And"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> I was still seeing all the disease."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> And then I was interested in like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "I need to understand diet better because"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "in school they don't really teach much"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "for diet nutrition in in medical school."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "don't"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> and so I was like let me start at least"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "when I I you're trained that hey when"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "you see a patient who's diabetic you say"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> hey you need to heart follow a heart"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "healthy diet follow listen listen to"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "your eye do listen listen to your family"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "doctor take your medications follow a"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "heart healthy diet uh and we'll see you"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "back in 6 months or 12 months and I"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "thought I was doing good but I never"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "really understood what a heart-he"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "healthy diet was so I started digging"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "into the research and and asking other"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "um PhDs and other MDs about like okay"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "well what what can I do to reduce my"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "risk of heart disease? So I found that"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "oh um that you know I I I I thought okay"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "I found some people who are claiming"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "that you know if you eat more fruits and"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "vegetables it's going to be more"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "protective for your heart specifically."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "And so I thought you know what it's not"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "going to kill me to try uh a plant-based"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "or more vegan diet. I tried a true vegan"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "diet for three months and my gut did get"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "better. I'd had less GI issues. My skin"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "got better. Uh, I found a as I did more"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "research around omega-3s, I'm like, I"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "need to eat more fish. So, I I went back"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "to that. But, um, the long story short"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "is I eventually did omega-3 testing on"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "myself. I did blood tests. Actually did"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "a YouTube video on it. I did blood tests"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "and just from diet alone, I was not"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "getting enough omega-3s. My omega-3"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "index was only like 4.3 or 4.5. And you"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "want it to be between 8 and 12%."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "and so I was like, \"Okay, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "getting enough.\" Uh, and I was only"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "eating fish, you know, a few times a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "week, maybe not not twice a week, or"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "maybe the quality that I was eating was"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "wasn't enough or wasn't wasn't very"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "good. So, I did start taking fish oil"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "supplements and I tested my blood 3 four"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "months later and thankfully I was in the"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "9% range. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": ">> so it really did help."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Yeah, it did really help me. Um, so, so"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that's at least kind of my story of kind"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "of how I found I still eat a lot of, uh,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "a lot of vegetables. I try to eat uh,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "kind of an ancestral Mediterranean diet"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "is what I like to say because it's"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> less processed food, right? I think"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "everybody who's ever been on your show"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "is probably saying the same thing, less"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "processed, less processed. I mean it's"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "it's the awakening for that now is very"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "refreshing in society because it's like"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "so it doesn't surprise me at all when"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "you're talking about some of the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "veterans you would see coming in and you"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "know the ones who seem to be doing well"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "are literally the ones are like yeah I"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "just exercise and my diet's pretty good"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "I'm eating natural foods like"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> at the end of the day n I really believe"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "95% of our problems are quite literally"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "caused by either not exercising or"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "really a combination of what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "you're putting in your mouth you know"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "that's that's a lot of the battle too."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> It and I think there is there's more and"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "more evidence that's coming out even in"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "the eye care field. There's a lot of new"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "research in the gut microbiome even"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "affecting the eyes. Uh and so that's"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "that's a whole other fascinating area."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> Um thank you guys for watching the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "episode. If you haven't already, please"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "hit that subscribe button and smash that"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "like button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "huge huge help. And if you would like to"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

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Uh and it"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "actually is really helpful uh not just"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "for the vision correction but even just"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "for cosmetic reasons because they they"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "have found that you know people who do"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "have an eye that's turning the wrong"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "How does it's just making me think of"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "that because you're talking about like"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the motion of the eyes but how does like"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "a lazy eye happen? Are you is that"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "always something you're born with or can"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "you develop that as well?"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> So, it oftenimes is something that kids"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "are just born with, you know, um that's"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the way kind of God made them. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "it's uh it's sec sometimes it is"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "secondary to the fact that they have an"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "uncorrected need for things like"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "glasses."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> So, for an example, it actually happens"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "quite frequently. Little kids will be"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "born really far-sighted. So no most kids"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "are born slightly farsighted like four"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "or five diopters. Uh and then as they go"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "through the first few years of life that"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "that plus power their eyes are really"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "small the eyes go through"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "emotropenization. So the eye actually"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "gets a little bit longer and they get"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "closer to hitting zero"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> not needing glasses."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> And that's a normal process. But some"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "kids are born so farsighted that they"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "learn as a young kid that they can just"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "flex their eye muscles really strong and"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "they can power through that"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "far-sightedness. But the problem is that"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "when you use the muscle inside the eye,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "it is neurologically tethered to the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "muscles on the outside of the eye to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "turn inward. And so for anybody who's"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "watching on on the cameras, like when"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "you try to focus up close, your eyes"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "again both turn inward. So"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> what happens is that these little kids,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "they end up turning their eyes like this"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "and then they just prioritize one eye"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "cuz their the brain wants doesn't want"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "to exert more energy than it needs to."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> so one eye turns in all the way, the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "other eye is looking straight ahead and"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "so it looks like, oh well, the eyes is"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "lazy. It's turning in. Well, actually,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "they just need glasses. And as soon as"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "you give them glasses and they don't"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "need to use those muscles, they go"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "straight again. So they don't the body"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "doesn't adjust to that and train it"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "permanently unfortunately to be that"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Thankfully in that case but the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "problem is that if they're left like"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "that for too long as a young kid then"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "the eye that's turned in their brain"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "learns to mute it and ignore it"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> and then that part of the brain"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> starts to develop what we call ambilopia"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "because it's not using it"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> right."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> So then it never develops as strong of a"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "an appreciation to see like 2020 vision."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Can glasses like when if you have that"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "and it does develop like a long-term"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "ability where you're actually one eye is"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "in and the other eye is out. Can glasses"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "also"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> be prescribed to change how that looks"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> sometimes."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Right. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> I mean I got one friend he's got like"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "one eye hunting, one eye fish and he"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "throws on glasses and he looks straight"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "as an arrow. So thankfully there there"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "are sometimes when that does work with"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "prism glasses or again some forms of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "vision therapy can be prescribed to help"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "get things back into alignment and"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "coordination improves."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> But if it's a really large angle"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Uh where the eyes deviated so far to the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "side, then oftentimes surgical"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "procedures is going to be the best bet."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Uh and it actually is really helpful uh"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "not just for the vision correction but"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "even just for cosmetic reasons because"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "they they have found that you know"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "people who do have an eye that's turning"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "the wrong way."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "We we don't mean to like give this"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "judgment to them but people do"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "automatically sort of judge them and"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "assume that they're stupid or that"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "there's something wrong with them or"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "they're not as attractive. Uh and so"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "they those individuals are less likely"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "to get hired for jobs. They're less"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "likely to get into college. They're less"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "likely. They um and it's so there is a"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "cosmetic benefit, not just a cosmetic"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "benefit, but like I would say almost a"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "psychological lifestyle benefit to"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "having that procedure."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> Absolutely. And and like it it's a shame"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "that like that's a reality. But as"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "humans, we are wired for symmetry"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> in everything. So when you see something"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that's like asymmetrical, there's a"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "there's like a evolutionary function"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "that says like, \"Oh, that's wrong.\""}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Or something. It's got nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "with someone's neurological ability"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "obviously, but you know there's like"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "just that like prejuditial judgment that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "does come in for sure."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> Yeah. And so, um, there I know a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "other doctors who when they see a kid"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "who, you know, it's like, oh, the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "vision's not going to improve with the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "surgery, but it's like, we should just"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "get this done now when they're 10 or 12"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "because it's going to open them so many"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "more doors in life, and it's going to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "it's going to help them suffering"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "from other just kind of lifestyle, you"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "know, making friends. Um, again, those"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "sort of opportunities."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Even like with you, you didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "have the physical aspect of it, but like"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "you couldn't you couldn't see that well"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "and then suddenly you're able to see"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "with your glasses. You can play sports"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "now. Well, the contact lenses made you"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "able to play football and then like your"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "whole life you start girls start talking"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "to you, your whole life improves. I mean"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "for a 13 14 year old that's a big deal."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> During those years to be able to kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "be given that second lease, you know"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> And and es especially for school uh you"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "know academic performance is enhanced so"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "much more. So that's why some states"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "here in the US like it's it's like you"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "have to see an eye doctor before you go"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "into kindergarten"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> because kids who are being missed by"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "school screenings and other things"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "because kids aren't going to be like hey"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "I can't see"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> that's all they know. They they've known"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "it their whole life. So they don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "what good vision is."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": ">> So I think it's really important for"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "parents to just be aware that you know"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "you can't wait for your kids to speak up"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "and say they can't see something. They"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "have you have to bring them in even if"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "they're not complaining just to make"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "sure the eyes are healthy, that we're"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "not missing anything and that we"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "potentially catch diseases and things"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "like that early."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> Uh especially now because there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "of interest on myopia"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "um which is nearsideness because"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "myopia we used to think of it as oh just"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "your vision's getting worse you need"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "stronger glasses. That was all it was."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "But with myopia, the eyes are actually"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "growing longer. So it's not just that"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "your eye needs stronger glasses. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "that the eyeball itself has extended"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "backwards toward the brain by about 1"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "millimeter for every three diopters."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> And so for myself, I was almost six"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "diopters. So my eye is essentially 2"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "millimeters longer than somebody who"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "doesn't require any form of correction."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Now it doesn't sound like, oh, what's 2"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "millime? But that two millimeters is the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "stretching of the tissue."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> And that extra strain and stretch"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "increases your risk for cataracts. It"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "increases your risk for glaucoma,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "increases your risk for um retinal"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "detachments where the retina just pulls"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "off the back of the eye. All potentially"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "vision loss, blinding conditions. and"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "then uh dramatically increases your risk"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "for what's called myopic maculopathy"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "which is basically the retina in the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "back of the eye start to to degenerate."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "And uh because of all these reasons,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that's why it's we've taken a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "extra steps to figure out, okay,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "lifestyle-wise and and and treatment"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "wise, what can we do to slow down these"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "kids from becoming so nearsighted?"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Because if we can slow down the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "nearsidedness and reduce their risk of"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "having all these diseases, not only do"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "we prevent vision loss and blindness"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "over their lifetime, but we decrease um"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "like the expense and all of the other"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "kind of negative effects that come with"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> for sure."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> Uh and here in the US um children about"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "40% of kids are nearsighted now. It used"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "to only be about 20%."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> Is that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> So yeah, we're going to get in. So this"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "is I think is a great trajectory into"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "phones and things like that. Uh but part"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "of it is kids spending a lot more time"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "indoors. So it's not just oh I'm on the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "screen uh but it's doing near activities"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "in general. So obviously kids way before"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "phones came out kids were becoming more"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "and more nearsighted at stronger amounts"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> and that's because of reading and the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "amount of times we spend indoors. We're"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "not outside playing soccer"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> field like that,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> right? Yeah. We're not we're not like"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "how we used to develop as as human"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "beings. We spend a lot more time"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "indoors. uh we're in our comfort zone"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "with all the air conditioning and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "heating and"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "so part of it being indoors, part of it"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "reading and just doing near activities"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "uh which includes a lot of time on"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "phones. Um and there's some other"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "factors that haven't been fully"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "identified. Certainly genetics plays a"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "role too. Um, but as kids spend more"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "time indoors and they have the genetics"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "for it, they are more likely to have a"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "faster rate of this eyeball expanding"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "um, and basically growing longer."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> And so now we measure for axial length."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "A lot of times in many clinics they have"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "devices to measure how long it is and"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "then even predict using AI based on"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "family genetics, time spent indoors,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "academic stressors,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "how nearsighted they likely could be by"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "the time their eye stops growing."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "But now we have devices, we either have"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "um prescription glasses now that were"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "just FDA approved. They actually been"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "available in other countries like Canada"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "for like five, six years uh that can"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "slow down nearsideness development."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> Oh wow. So it can actually stop the wa"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> yeah it can slow it down by about 50% if"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the kids wear it non-stop for 12 hours a"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "day. Uh there's other ones where contact"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "lenses both soft lenses and hard lenses"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "which I think are genius um called"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "orthocarutology."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "So most contact lenses people are told"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "don't sleep in them right because your"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "chance for infection goes up"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "dramatically if you sleep in contact"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "lenses. But there's a contact lens"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "that's specifically designed for kids or"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "anybody, even adults, to sleep in them."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> And when you're sleeping in them, it's"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "kind of like wearing braces for your"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "teeth."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> It changes and molds the shape of the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "eye so that when you wake up the next"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "morning, you can see 2020. And you take"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "out the contacts and you don't wear them"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "during the day and you can still see"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "2020. And then that night, you put them"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "back in. And then you just it keeps"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "remolding and holding the shape of the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "eye. And so that's an alternative to"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "LASIC for people who maybe aren't"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "candidates for LASIC, but they find that"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that that process also slows down the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "rate of nearness development."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> And so that's sometimes used. There's"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "eye drops like atropene eye drops that"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "are used. Um they're not FDA approved"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "yet. Um but that's been going undergoing"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "a lot of research. So some doctors"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "prescribe it off label. Um, and then"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "there's even some investigations into"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "red light therapy in Asia, uh, that that"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "may be a way to slow down myopia, too."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Wait, so how are they using red light to"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "do that?"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> Yeah. So, uh, there's different forms of"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "red light therapies. This one"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "specifically is called repeated"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "low-level light red light therapy. And"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "so, they use a specific wavelength"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "around 650 nmters of light. That's the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "current device that's being tested. And"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "they do it for 3 minutes in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "3 minutes in the afternoon, 5 days a"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "week."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Eyes open like"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> eyes open. It's actually more like it's"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "like a tabletop device and it's a it's"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "like looking into a laser pointer."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what I'm thinking."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": ">> And so uh they have shown in several"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "studies and this is all again happening"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "in East Asia because the the rate of"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "myopia development in East Asia is like"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "90% of the population. Again, here in"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the US it's like 40% and steadily"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "increasing. They expect it to be 50% of"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the world population by 2050."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Yeah. But in again in East Asia it's"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "like 90%."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> [ __ ] we chat man."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> Uh but they find that the kids who are"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "treated in this and they they've been"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "doing these studies for like year long"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "the kids who are on it have a reduced"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "risk of myopia advancement and even kids"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "who don't have nearsidedness yet it's"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "prevents some kids from developing"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "nearness"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> but that's not d that's also not"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "damaging their eyes in other ways. So"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "that's the the caveat right now and"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "that's why even the especially here in"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "the US they're like backing up from it"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "because there are sadly case reports"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "where kids have had reduced vision and"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "damage uh loss of cones uh the cone cell"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "density inside the back of the eye has"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "diminished"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> and then um they've even been proven"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that some of these devices simply are"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "breaching the safety levels that they're"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "supposed to be safeguarding against. uh"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "enough so that China actually changed"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "their laser category for these devices"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "from a class two to a class three."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> What does what does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> Uh it's just the safety category uh of"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "like exposure to the light density to"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "like how powerful it is. Um so there"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "needs to be a lot more research on those"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "devices before anybody before I"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "recommend anybody have their kids stare"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "at red light. But that could be a part"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "of the equation that we do know that"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "kids who spend more time outdoors are"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "less likely to develop nearsidedness."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "So, we have to question is it because"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "they're just not indoors and they're not"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "having that stimulus of like focus and"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "you're in an indoor environment or is it"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "because they are getting more vitamin D"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "from the sun or is it because they are"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "getting red and near infrared light from"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "being outdoors too?"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> Well, I mean, not to be captain obvious"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "here, but what if it's just a"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "combination of all of it? You know what"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "I mean, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": ">> You got it on the that that's really"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "what it is. We know it's the combination"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "of all those things. So, they"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "huge, huge help. And if you would like"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "to follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

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But for a young kid whose body is"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "still growing and developing,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "they have implemented in some countries"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "like I think Indonesia, they've"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "recommended, hey, all kids have to spend"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "at least two hours a day out playing"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "outside in the sunlight. Uh, awesome."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> And so once they started implementing"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "that, the rates of near side"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "nearsidedness development for kids have"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "also gone down."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> And so, uh, you these are usually still"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "small studies. So, there still needs to"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "be a lot more done. But, uh, so I always"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "encourage even to to parents, uh, when"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "their kids aren't nearsighted, I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "encourage them to take breaks when"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "they're spending a lot of time on your"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "devices or studying school, but then get"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "them outside. you know, you want them to"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "spend a little more time outside uh just"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "from there's something about that."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> You know, I I was telling you I've never"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "had vision problems before in my life,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "which I'm very grateful for. However, I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "did notice the first three and a half"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "years when I was building this thing. I"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "was at my parents house. They lived back"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "in the woods and I my studio and my"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "office were the same exact thing. So, it"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "was a blacked out studio like this with"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "fluorescent lights. Not as nice as this"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "one, but actually way worse. Right in"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "your face."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> And so now you saw you saw my place out"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "here, like where I work. There's natural"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "light everywhere. I go outside all the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "time. But I was like banged up during"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "those three and a half years, too,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "health-wise. So I was inside all the"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "time. And like I never had the effect of"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "like, oh, I can't read some or I can't"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "see that sign. But I had what I would"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "call like eye fatigue. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> All the [ __ ] time. And I noticed"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "maybe about probably about a year after"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "moving up here because I don't when I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "recording in here, I'm in here, but you"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "know, I'm not in here besides that. I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "outside a lot. I go for walks all the"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "time. I noticed like that eye fatigue"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "kind of thing like almost like haziness"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "is totally gone. And I think, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "it's pretty obvious why."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Yeah. So, there there is a something"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that's not I don't think it's discussed"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "very much, but there is something called"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "proximal accommodation. And so again,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "accommodation is the process of flexing"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "that muscle inside the eye. And so when"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "you are indoors, anything that's less"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "than 20 feet away because 20 ft beyond"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "that is considered optical infinity for"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the human eye. Um you are technically"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "using your eye muscles just a little bit"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "to focus on a near object. So, even"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "right now looking at you and you're only"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "like what, five feet away, I know I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "using my muscles just a little bit"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "versus if I try to imagine I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "at the Empire State Building super far"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "away, I can relax my muscles and my eyes"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "deviate."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Yeah, but yeah, there we go. Yeah, but"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "even that uh I'm still using my"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "accommodation just a little bit to even"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "see that wall that's, you know, maybe 10"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "12 feet away."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "you. And so all day long you're in a"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "small indoor environment, you're using"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "those muscles a little bit. Now as an"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "adult, your eyes have largely stopped"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "growing. And so you're not likely to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "develop nearsidedness"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "now. But for a young kid whose body is"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "still growing and developing, they may"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "have an increased likelihood of their"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "eye wanting to stay in that state and"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "the eye responds by growing longer"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": ">> so that they don't have to use those"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "muscles as strong. So my like what I"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "described as like eye fatigue would be"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "more like shock to the system in a way"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "because I'm not out there in that kind"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "of environment all the time, but my eye"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "hasn't changed because it I was already"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "an adult and it had grown to its size."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Right. So essentially what you were"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "doing is going to the gym and lifting up"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "a 2 lb weight off the dumbbell rack and"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "just holding it there"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> at halfway contracted all day long for"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "several days at a time. And you can do"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "it. It's a light weight, no problem. But"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "you eventually feel some fatigue. Oh"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "yeah. Right. So then you go outside and"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "you put that weight down."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> And that's that's that's the eye strain"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "that people are often experiencing"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "multiplied by the fact that when we're"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "on screens, we don't blink as often"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> and we don't blink as completely. Your"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "eyes tend to not close all the way"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> when you're staring at a screen. We're"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> as as a species, we tend to like"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "hyperfixate. It's it's like we're um our"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "attention span is is way more like"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "grabbed on the screens than it is if"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "we're just reading like a casual book."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Why Why is that?"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> I don't think they fully understand it"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "yet. Uh they don't know if it's because"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the light is it because of the kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "the depth of it. Is it um so there is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "something there they haven't fully"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "understood but they know that part of it"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "is the the amount of focus or the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "attention that we're giving to it. the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "um cuz with books if it's just a leisure"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "book like you're just you know reading"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Lord of the Rings or something like that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "we tend to have more closer to normal"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "blink rates"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> but when we're studying like chemistry"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "or calculus or something like that and"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "we're really focused on it then our"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "blink rates often again diminish and you"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "again don't blink as much."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Have they studied that comparison like"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "you're talking about phones versus books"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "in that way. Have they studied phones"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "versus Kindles when you're reading a"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "book or something that's actually a"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "screen with a light behind it?"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> Right. They have uh and they there is"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "differences um that they do know that"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "depending on the device used. Usually"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "people don't hyperfix fixiate as much on"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the Kindles uh versus like a normal iPad"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "or or other type of tablet. There is"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "something really nice about that kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "cool um contrast, that kind of cool gray"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "color that Kindles have. I I do really"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "like that. It's kind of softer. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "there is some benefit to that versus the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "harsh like bright"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> screen boosted contrast look."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> Um but still, I do believe still just"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "regular paperback is people are usually"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "more leisure"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> with a classic paperback."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> To to jump back for one sec, I had this"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "question, but we got off it. You know"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "what are we talk about red light therapy"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "all the time like I use it on my hair"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "and seems to work like doctors like that"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "but what it's used for so many different"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "things"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "what is it about the red light itself"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "scientifically that makes it such this"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "like potential elixir of health."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> Yeah. So I know I've heard some of your"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "previous guests uh talk about"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "mitochondria right? Uh and really that's"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "yeah we kind of laugh for a second."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "We're like everybody's using this as"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "like a buzzword now. Um but that that's"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "essentially kind of where it falls down"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "onto. Now in the eye care space there is"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "red light which is around 630 up to like"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "670 nmters of light but they they find"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "that devices that also use near infrared"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "light so closer to 850 nmters and"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "sometimes even a little bit less than"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "that. It's kind of a yellow orange light"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "590 nmters of light"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> also have benefits and they don't fully"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "understand exactly how it's working but"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "it does when the light energy so that's"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "the thing it's wavelength of light has"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "one role but then also the amount of"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "energy given to a tissue"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> will stimulate uh cells within the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "within the tissue like the mitochondria"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "which produces ATP it is the you know"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "fifth grade energy of the the powerhouse"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "of the cell,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> but it it energizes it, allows it to"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "make more energy, but then it also"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "changes some uh protein productions"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "within the nucleus of the cell."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> So, it kind of for cells that are like"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "aging and dying, they're getting tired,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "they're not making proteins efficiently."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "By giving this en light energy, it"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "reopens their energy production and"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "helps it live a little bit longer at a"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "higher efficiency capacity. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "that's kind of the way I think about"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> it's like an energizer. It's like the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Energizer B like a battery pack. And and"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "so the they have shown at least for the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "eyes now if we think about just the eyes"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "because I'm not a specialist in in other"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "forms of health because they've been"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "studying red light since the 60s"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> uh and they're trying to better"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "understand it. I have a whole lecture on"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "this for"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> wasn't part of MK Ultra was it?"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> I don't know what that is. What is MK"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Ultra?"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> You know what? Good for you. Keep going."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Don't worry about it."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "so right now in the field of eye care"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "they're studying red light therapy for"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "not just myopia like we mentioned"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "earlier but they've been studying it for"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "dry eye uh along with other forms of"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "anterior segment disease like chilasia"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "sty things like that but they're also"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "studying it for macular degeneration."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> In fact that it's been FDA approved one"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "device has been FDA approved for the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "treatment of macro generation. It's been"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "used in in Europe for a little bit"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "longer, but that uses not just red"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "light, but it uses near infrared light"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "and some yellow orange light."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> And what's again what I like to"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "emphasize for people because I think a"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "lot of people hearing this and I've done"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "some videos on it, they think, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "going to go online. I'm going to go on"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Amazon. I'm going to buy this device and"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "I'm just going to stare at it and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "going to help me see better. No, no, no,"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "no. Uh"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "the the challenge is that it's there is"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "a a curve to it where if you don't get"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "enough of the right energy,"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "uh you won't have the benefits"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> of the cells being activated, but you"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "also can overshoot it if you have too"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "much application. Then you're like those"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "kids in the myopia study who had damage"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "to the retina."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> Uh and so there is like this a sweet"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "spot that you need to hit. And"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "unfortunately from all the research I've"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "read there they don't seem to have a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "clear-cut answer yet of where that lies."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "There are some protocols with some"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "devices that have been tested and tested"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and tested. And those protocols with"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "that specific device using that specific"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "wavelength."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "They've seem to gotten close to where"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "they see positive benefits. But even"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "them, they're like, \"You can't use this"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "every day. You have to, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "can only do this three times a week for"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "three weeks and then you have to take a"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "six-month break.\" Uh and so there there"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "there is a chance that people could"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "overdo something,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> right? So it's very much in development."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "They know there's something there. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "just a matter of like actually"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "perfecting it and getting more research."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> And people will ask, can't I just go"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "outside cuz the sunlight has red light,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "near red light. And you certainly can to"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "some extent. There was a study in the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "80s uh and actually another doctor uh"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Mark Bulmore sent me this one because he"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "saw my lecture and it was from the 80s"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "and they studied Yeah. specifically"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "around 600 nmters of light. Close your"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "eyes, sunlight, you see that orange"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "glow. That is actually 600 nmters of"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "light plus penetrating through your"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "eyelids."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": ">> And so there there is some potential"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "benefits of just being outside. But"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "again, same thing. There's so much"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "variability. What what time of the year"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "is it? What's the cloud cover like? Uh"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "you know, what part of the world are you"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "living in? Near the equator? Are you"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "near the North Pole? All of those"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "variables. So we haven't quite figured"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "out where where the sweet spot is. they"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "have the benefits,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> but there there might be something to"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "it. Um, and certainly we have devices in"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "the eye clinics now that uh have"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "scientific validity and protocols that"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "are showing positive benefits for things"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "like dry eye, for sty on the eyelid."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> What are some of those devices?"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> Yeah, so um a couple of the brands, uh"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "MD Elite is one that has some red light."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Another one is Optometric Aesthetics."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "They sell a similar one. Um the light"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "system is the one that's been FDA"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "approved. uh the big company called"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Elcon just bought it. The um the one for"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "the pediatric myopia studies I don't I"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "don't remember off the top of my head"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "what the name of that is but so doctors"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "have access to these devices that have"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "more protocols that are I would deem are"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "more safe for people just buying stuff"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "online."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> It's I I wish there there's a couple of"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "devices that are cleared like in Canada."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> yeah you get all sorts of different"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "images and things that come up. Um,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "in Canada there is one called the Arunal"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "light which you can buy. It's cleared"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "for marketing. People can buy it online."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "I have two of them. I've sort of tested"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "them. Uh, the challenge that I have is"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "while it's based off of research that it"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "may be positive benefit. The the one"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "thing that has kept me from really and"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "this is the disclaimer is that they"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "don't have any specific clinical studies"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "using that device. M"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> and so that is like so I'm kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "testing it out on myself but I also have"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "no benchmark of way to say that it's"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "actually having any benefit"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> other than the fact that it feels good"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "you know so it may be so just placebo it"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "could be very much be placebo and so"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "that's a that's a big thing for me when"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "it comes to posting stuff online I try"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "to be very clear about where the science"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "is and where it's kind of speculation"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> that's important that's important these"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "days there's a lot of noise out there"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> um but back what you said uh I think"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "earlier you kind of said like what are"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "things people can do to help their eyes?"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Yeah. You were given like the pencil"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "drill."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. There's that. You know the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the better things for the health of the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "eye. Sunglasses still if it's a high UV"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "light day between 10 and 4 p.m. in the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "day. Still good idea to wear sunglasses"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "or wear a widebrim hat at the very"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "least."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> Polarized."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Um that's totally up to you for glare"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "protection."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "uh if if you're bothered by glare, if"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "you get headaches, if you're going to be"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "on the water, I think polarized"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "polarized glasses are amazing. Um I have"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "some videos on those. Um but it really"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "cuts down the glare. The UV light is"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "just going to slow down photoagging of"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "the skin. The eyelids are the most"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "thinnest skin on the body, right? So"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "that'll help diminish any of the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "wrinkles and eye bags from forming and"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "things like that. But also, it's going"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "to diminish sunlight damage to the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "surface of the eye. It'll slow down some"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "level of cataract development. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "there's benefits to wearing sunglasses."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "The other big health thing is eating"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "really healthy."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> Uh, and even if you want to take some"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "supplements, I'm a big fan of some of"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "the research and into some supplements"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "for the eye."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": ">> Oh, I want to talk about this. Can I"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "just go to the bathroom real fast?"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Do it"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> real quick. And then we'll get into"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "we're going to go through dietary things"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "and supplements as well. I want to get"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "into all that. Right back."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And we still have to hit blue"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "light at some point."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. That's about that."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> All right, we're back. Thank you guys"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "for watching the episode. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "already, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "button and smash that like button on the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "video. 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Cuz then you could explain"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "this and"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> people could also see what you're"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "explaining. So the eye is obviously a"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "ball and it's connected by vessels back"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "here. So the you're saying the retina"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> the top left one up there."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Top left."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Perfect. So you're saying that the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "retina extends all the way to the back"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "where I'm looking at those vessels."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So the very far back to the"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "right of the screen there, you see that"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "yellow line? Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> That so that's the optic nerve. And so"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "the all the information from the brain"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "is the light information that you're"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "collect with the eye picks it up like a"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "satellite dish and then it all has to be"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "sent through that cord back to the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "brain. M."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> So all of the kind of the where all the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "blood vessels are, that's actually a"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "tissue. It's very thin. It's like wet"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "tissue paper almost. It's so thin. But"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "you pick that that that's all of your"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "cones, your rods, and then all of the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "supportive structures and your ganglion"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "cells, which there's over a million"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "ganglon cells, but those all bundle"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "together, and that's that cord of the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "optic nerve heading to the brain."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "And then I'm looking at when you were"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "describing the procedure you got were"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "they which took like six minutes on each"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "eye or something like that where they"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "put in"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> they put the ICL inside my eye."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Right. So where approximately would that"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "have gone?"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> So right where uh we have that the arrow"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "head there. So right in front of the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "lens right in front of there. Exactly"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "right where it's at. That's where that"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "lens sits behind the colored part the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "iris and then in front of the lens. So"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "where the where the cornea is and the"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "farthest exterior part of the structure"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "is that the softest part of the eye"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> like the most sensitive?"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> I mean it's definitely the most"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "sensitive because the most nerve endings"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "on your body actually are are"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "concentrated right there in that corial"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "tissue because if you've ever had a lash"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "in your eye or scratched your eye, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "painful. You can feel it. Uh and that's"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "just because the eye is so delicate. You"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "need to protect the eye. So that's why"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "you have so many nerve endings. But the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "cornea is actually pretty strong. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "it's tough to say what what would be the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "most fragile."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Uh, I I imagine, you know, a retina"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "surgeon would be like, well, the retina"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "is the most fragile. Uh, but, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "just on the exterior of the eye, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the conjunctiva, the clear membrane on"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "the surface of the eye is probably the"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "most"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> Oh, right at the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> Yeah, that's that's the clear part of"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "the eye that covers the white part of"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "the eye. Uh, so when you get"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> That's what I was thinking. Yeah. when"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "you get pink eye or an infection of some"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "kind uh which we call conjunctivitis"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "that's the medical term that's just an"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "infection of that uh that membrane"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> and so that's probably the most delicate"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "I would say it's easy to damage it but"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "it's also quick to heal"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> now when you were talking about"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "cataracts because now we actually have"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "the the graph up here where would where"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "would that manifest just to review that"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "for people like where would what part"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "would you see it"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> so the the clear thing that's labeled as"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the lens, right? That that big kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "whitish. It's kind It's actually about"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "the shape and size of an Eminem candy."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "So, you can imagine that."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> Oh, wow."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> So, that lens again is clear when you're"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "born and then if you develop a cataract,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "that lens starts to become opaque, kind"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "of a cloudy either white or yellow color"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "eventually. Uh like I've done mission"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "trips uh to third world countries and"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "things like that and people who have"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "never had access to an eye doctor,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "they're like 70 years old and their"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "their lens is darker than your coffee."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> So it's and those people can't see"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "through that."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> Is there is there like such thing as you"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "don't catch a cataract early enough that"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "you can never fix it and you go blind or"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "is it always fixable with the surgical"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "procedures we now have? No, cataracts"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "are pretty much always something can be"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "done. Uh, in fact, sometimes it's better"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "to do it early than later."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> But, um, you know, some kids are born"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "with cataracts and if it gets missed,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "then they may not get them the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "information, the light information"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "getting to the back of the eye. And so"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "that part of the brain that"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> helps them see through that left eye or"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "right eye,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> that part of the brain may never develop"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "the ability to like appreciate good"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "vision"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> and we call that ambilopia"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> and some kids get that because one eye"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "turns the wrong way uh or one eye is way"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "stronger than the other. They can"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "develop it through those reasons too. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "but deprivation ambilopia where they"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "just the eyes essentially covered the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "entire time or there's a they have a"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "cataract that gets missed. Uh yeah then"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "then that part of the brain just never"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "develops. It's like being super"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "right-handed. And that like if imagine a"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "kid was born without a left arm, the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "part of the brain that would develop to"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "coordinate finesse with that left arm,"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "the brain just says, \"Hey, you know"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "what? This I don't need to use this. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "going to use it for something else.\""}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> And so that's there's a critical period"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "in the first kind of seven to eight"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "years of life where the the brain is"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "more neuroplastic and and learns faster."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "M"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> and so there's if we catch a kid early"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "enough with cataracts, they can do"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "cataract surgery and uh then usually the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "brain can at least appreciate better"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "vision if we get"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> so it can build. Okay, actually that"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "makes sense cuz one of the things I was"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "thinking about not necessarily would"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "just be cataracts. I'm sure it's all"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "different things, but you'll see these"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "videos on social media where like a baby"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "like a year old or two, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "talking about a year or two old who is"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "wearing like some big glasses and"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "they're basically like blind, but they"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "just have come out of a surgery where"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "whatever was wrong with their vision got"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "fixed and then they take off the glasses"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "and they can suddenly see their mom for"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "the first time and it's like very"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "emotional and you know they'll laugh as"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "well. like those are the coolest videos,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "but I would imagine that's also because"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "they're it's what you're saying. They're"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "catching whatever it is early and now"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "their brain actually can develop the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "ability to"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> Yeah, they they appreciate it right"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> And those are always very emotional"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "videos, just like I said. And the reason"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "people often ask, they're like, \"How do"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "they figure out what power the glasses"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "need to be?\" Because the kid can't say,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "\"Oh, that's better one or two.\" And we"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "actually use that same principle that I"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "mentioned before of uh the red eye of"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "light hitting the retina. So we do a"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "procedure called retinoscopy which uh in"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "school we have to do it thousands of"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "times and we we're actually tested on it"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "for to get our lensure. Uh but you you"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "have to look at the eye with a little"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "flashlight and how the light as you scan"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "across the eye hits the retina and"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "bounces back. So the movement, the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "reflection will move differently based"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "if a kid is farsighted or if they're"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "nearsighted. And we can measure it by"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "putting different lenses in front of"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "their eye. So once we neutralize the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "movement, that's essentially what"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "somebody's glasses need to be."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> That gives the answer."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> And uh for an adult uh for like lensure"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "procedures uh you basically need to get"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "somebody to like 2030 or better, which"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "would be like legal driving. So really"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "when people come in if if you don't want"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "to answer better one or two I can just"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "determine what your glasses pretty"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "pretty close to should be"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> and I can just go from there."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": ">> Now for people out there who don't have"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "glasses or contacts especially so they"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "may be less familiar or get mixed up"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "with the terms when you're defining"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "nearsightedness and farsightedness. What"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "are the what are the separate symptoms"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "of those two?"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Right. So um nearsightedness that just"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "means you can see it near. So you pick"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "up your phone, you can see nice and"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "sharp, but you glance up, you look in"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "the distance, and you're like, I can't"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "see the road sign. Okay?"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> Right? So everything in the distance is"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "fuzzy. Uh the medical term for that is"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "called myopia. Uh far-sightedness, which"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "I don't love the term far-sidedness"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "because it I think it's confusing, but"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "uh the medical term is called hyperopia"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "or hypermetropia."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "And this basically means your eye is"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "smaller or weak in a way like you can"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "see things far away sometimes. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "usually up close things are a little bit"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "more challenging to see and you need to"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "engage your eye muscles to focus."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> I think when people kind of go like"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> Yeah. And usually when people have to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "hold things further away and they can't"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "see up close, that's that's often"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "because they're over the age of 45 and"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "they also have pressbopia"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> because that's the confusing thing. When"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "somebody is farsighted and they're"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "young,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> they still have the ability to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "accommodate or use their eye muscles to"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "flex that lens inside the eye to see up"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "close. M"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> and so they can get by uh until that"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "lens hardens or for some reason they"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "can't focus up close like maybe they had"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "a head injury or something and they lost"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "that muscle control then all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "they can't see up close."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> And that's always a frustrating thing"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "for people when they turn 45 or"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "something like that. They're like, I"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "never used to need glasses and and now"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "they're trying to get used to life."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> Absolutely. It changes and it's like"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "it's one of those things, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "just kind of take for granted. You wake"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "up every day, you can see, and then like"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "slowly and then all of a sudden you're"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "like, \"Wait a minute, why why can't I"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "see that?\" And I think about that a lot"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "cuz I've been blessed with very good"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "vision in my life. But like everyone"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "else, you're going to get older at some"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "point and certain things"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> are maybe going to fade in their ability"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "to to be as as good or accurate at"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "seeing as they are now. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "we're going to get into the blue light"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "stuff and some of the devices and things"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "around us, but outside of that, what are"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> I don't know, some good eye health tips"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that people can do on a daily basis to"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "try to work the muscle of their eye, if"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "you will."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> Oh, sure. Yeah. Um, so I think just in"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "general routine life, most people are"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "getting plenty of kind of eye exercises"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "in a way. Uh in the field of eye care,"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "there is a whole subsection called"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "vision therapy and there's some really"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "good evidence for a few different eye"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "conditions like uh where people have"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "hard time moving their eye muscles or"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "they have accommodative insufficiency"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "where they can't flex that muscle inside"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "the eye. Uh so with that, one of the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "most classic ones that doctors talk"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "about uh is called pencil push-ups,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> which is basically just taking a pen or"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "a pencil, looking at the tip of it, and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "then slowly keeping it in focus, keeping"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "it one, not double, uh but bringing it"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "closer and closer until the point where"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "it starts to fuzz a little bit, push it"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "back just a little bit more, and then"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "try to pull it in closer to see if you"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "can challenge yourself to clear it up."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> Oh wow. And so you're challenging uh the"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "muscle inside the eye to engage a little"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "bit more and have better control and"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "then you just relax it look far in the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "distance and you can do repetitions of"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "that. So it it if you are consistent"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "with it just like with any other"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "exercise right you hit the gym you go"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "you go lift the gym one you lift weights"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "once you can't be like oh look I did it"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "once why am I do not have biceps"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> you have to keep going you have to keep"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "doing it so um they use these actually"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "they use a lot of different uh there's a"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "lot more types of exercises that are"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "prescribed and used in forms of vision"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "therapy and ways they can challenge it"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "uh but it's used a lot for people who've"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "had head injury again like TBI I um kids"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "who've had developmental issues with"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "their eye muscles, maybe pre or post eye"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "surgery, they'll it's kind of like"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "having physical therapy."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": ">> Uh right, if they do physical therapy"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "before they have uh like knee surgery,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "you're more likely to heal faster. And"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "so uh they're starting to use that a lot"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "more."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> And I think most people don't need to do"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "it, but if you're really like, I want to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "avoid needing reading glasses till I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "55. If you did that on a regular basis,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "you might learn to engage the muscles a"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "little bit better. One thing I do like"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "to emphasize is it's not that you're"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "building stronger muscles inside the eye"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "because the silary body muscle inside"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "the eye uh that you're using to focus is"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "not like skeletal muscle. It is smooth"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "muscle. So you cannot hypertrophy that"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "muscle kind of like your heart"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> like you're not building tissue on it."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> Yeah. It's not getting bigger."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> Uh it'd actually be terrible if it did."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "If it got bigger you'd basically induce"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "glaucoma. But the uh the smooth muscle"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "when you're doing those exercises,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "you're actually improving the brain"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "communication"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> to those muscles for like fine-tune"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "engagement."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Well, that's actually that's right on Q"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "because I wanted to ask about the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "relationship with the brain and the eyes"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "because everything as far as I know that"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "we've pretty much been talking about"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "today is related to physical deformities"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "that happen in the eye that then cause"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "you to not be able to see, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "related to something you just"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "referenced, which is like TBI, for"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "example, that is a neurological"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "deformation that then"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> has some sort of effect on how you're"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "able to see afterwards. So just maybe at"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "the beginning to make it simple for"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "people what part of the brain is"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "responsible for us being able to use the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "eyeball to see and to start."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> Yeah. So honestly every lobe of the"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "brain does have some role in your"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "movements of the eye"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> and how you fixate and control like"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "steady focusing on the on an object to"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "being able to look left, look right, to"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "look up, look down. um all the different"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "eye muscles have some different"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "connection to different loes of the"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "brain. And so that's that's the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "challenge with brain and head injury is"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "that um there there often is some"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "deficit that happens. It often does heal"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "um over the course on its own within 6"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "months for a lot of people thankfully"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "but there's many people who have"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "deficits for several months"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> uh or it goes longstanding. The two most"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "common is accommodative insufficiency"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "where again they have a hard time"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "focusing up close and seeing things like"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "their phone or they have convergence"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "insufficiency which is where they still"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "have the muscle capability coordination."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "You know if you cover one eye to focus"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "up close but using both eyes at the same"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "time becomes difficult."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> Ah"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> because when you focus on a near object"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "like your phone"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> you're not just engaging the muscle to"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "keep it clear but you're trying to keep"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "the eyes turned in to keep it single. M"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> and so then people start to be like I"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "can see up close for like 2 seconds and"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "then I see double and so thankfully uh"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "with proper training they can and rehab"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "they can get that improving and and much"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "better."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Yeah. You'll hear about like a even like"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "a stroke victim"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> one eye suddenly won't work right and"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and maybe the whole left side of their"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "body doesn't work and it extends to"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "their eye as well. So that would have to"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "do with what you were talking about"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "where every part of the brain is"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "technically a part of the process. So if"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "you shut down some of them, it might"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "just shut down the whole machine in"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "general."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> And then there's different loes in the"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "back of the brain, mostly in the visual"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "cortex, um whether it's the temporal"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "lobe, parietal lobe, if they say have a"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "stroke or an injury in that area, that"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "will affect your visual field."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": ">> Um and so people may not even be aware"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "of it because sometimes people will have"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "vision loss. They're like, I'm aware of"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "it. I can see in the top right of my"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "vision, it's gone. But there are people"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "who've had strokes or injury who aren't"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "aware that they've lost vision up there."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "They feel like they can still see it."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "And so they'll they're that person who"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "as they're walking down the hallway keep"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "running into a door or keep running into"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "the wall."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> Uh and they don't realize their vision's"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "gone. And so that's that's another"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "challenge. Uh and again we have"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "specialists in the field of Iare who"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "specialize in neurooptometry"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "um or or they specialize in some form of"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "vision or developmental optometry where"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "they not only kind of evaluate and"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "diagnose hey what's going on with the"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "brain but then they they try to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "prescribe EV whether it be forms of"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "rehab or they'll prescribe special"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "prisms to reorient their vision in a"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "certain direction so that they're"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "they're utilizing the still functional"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "part of their vision or try to rehab"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "their their lifestyle so that they're"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "not at risk of falling."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> How how does the prisms thing work?"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> Yeah. So, uh so prisms kind of like"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "remember the old uh what's it Pink Floyd"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "the the famous Pink Floyd one with the"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "prism with the the rainbow lights. So"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "that so yeah prisms do scatter light uh"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "a little bit but what they do is they"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "can direct light. Uh, so if you have an"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "eye that turns too far inward, too far"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "outward. Yeah, that's the that's the"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "classic one I'm thinking of. So it'll So"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "you can see how the light goes in one"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "direction and then it bends and shifts"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "and goes a different angle."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": ">> So if you if you have an eyeball that"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "turns left, right, up or down too far"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "and there's a misalignment."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": ">> Now for a lot of people, their eye"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "muscles compensate for this. But if"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "their eye muscles don't and they're"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "challenged, they have double vision or"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "they're having too much eye strain, then"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "some forms of prism can correct that. So"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "even though the eyes turned in, they're"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "still seeing straight ahead and they're"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "not fighting these eye movements. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "sometimes we'll prescribe small amounts"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "to sometimes really large amounts. It"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "depends on how big the the eye turn uh"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "may be."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "button on the video. They're both a huge"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "huge help. And if you would like to"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

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There's just a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "interesting [ __ ] here. But the the other"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "medical awakening, if you will, about"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the second brain in the body being the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "gut and how much that causes, I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "not literally, but figuratively, how"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "much so many of your downstream health"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "problems are actually caused by what's"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "going on in here is something that's"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "really changing a lot of people's"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "opinions on how to, you know, attack a"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "problem. But you mentioned it yourself."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "You had some of your own gut problems"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "and started solving that and then the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "downstream effects in into your health"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "completely changed. So, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "would imagine we're making a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "progress there and we're still like kind"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "of just scraping the surface of what we"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "know about what the gut can do to the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "body. Is that fair to say?"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> Yeah, 100%. Uh, you know, it's only been"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "like maybe 8 to 10 years that they"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "started having the capability to better"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "look and understand at all the different"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "organisms in our in our gut. So, that"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "they're starting to understand more of"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "it. Uh I am not a"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "gastroenterenterologist but uh I've been"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "really fascinated. So I've been reading"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> you are today. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> But I I study a lot at least when it"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "pertains to the eye the research that's"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "being published around eye health and"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "various eye diseases and their and how"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "they're looking at the gut microbiome."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Uh so I read a lot of that. I've done"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "again a few videos on it. Uh so as far"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "as we've known for a long time that"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "there is some connection between the gut"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "and the eyes and I say that because"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "there's some eye conditions uh that are"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "directly related. So there is"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "generalized inflammation in the eye that"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "we call a uvitis. And there are some"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "people when they have a history of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "gastro gastrointestinal upset, they have"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "chronic diarrhea, they have Crohn's"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "disease, things like that, they are more"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "likely to get this significant"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "inflammation inside the eye. So their"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "eyes are red, it's painful, they get"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "like a dull, achy pain. They come in,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "their vision's fuzzy, and I can see"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "white blood cells floating inside the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "eye, kind of looking like a snow globe."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Like you shook up a snow globe, you can"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "see white blood cells floating around."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Uh, and so some people it's because they"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "have inflammation in their gut and"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "somehow it's causing inflammation in"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "their eye."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> So we've known that for some time."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "There's another condition called"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "gardener syndrome, um, where they'll"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "actually have like pigment in the back"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "of both eyes. And if we see pigment in"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "back of one eye, we're like, okay, not a"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "big deal. But if we c catch the pigment"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "in the retina on both eyes, then that's"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "a high association with gardener"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "syndrome and there have a we have to"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "send them to get colonoscopy because"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "they're really high chance of developing"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "like colon cancer. So it's again we've"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "known that there's some connection with"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the gut in the eye for a long time."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "And now they've been studying and"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "finding, hey, when people have this gut"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "dispiosis, they have certain strains of"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "microbes in their in their gut that have"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "been thrown off, they're more likely to"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "have autoimmune related dry eye issues."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "They're more likely to have uh"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "inflammation in the retina from central"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "cirrus. They may not absorb other"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "nutrients in their gut like taking"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "supplements and they're at higher risk"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "of developing macular degeneration."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "diabetes is uh advanced and diabetic"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "rhnopathy specifically is advanced"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "worse. There's one study on mice that"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "was really fascinating where they they"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "took diabetic mice and mice are not"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "humans but they took diabetic mice and"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "non-diabetic mice and what they did is"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "they took a gut mic gut transplant. They"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "took the the fecal transplant from the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "diabetic mice and the fecal transplant"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "from the healthy mice and they switched"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the two basically they forcefed like a a"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "poop pill to to these mice. Uh and what"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "happened is that they seated their gut"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "and the the the healthy mice started"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "developing diabetic retinopathy or"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "bleeding in their retina in the back of"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the eye where the diabetic uh the"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "diabetic mice that had retinopathy,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "their retinopathy started to improve and"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "go away"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> just because they ate each other's [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> essentially. Yeah. Uh and so again mice"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "are not humans but it it also is a key"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "to kind of the story like there is"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "something with the metabolites from the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "food we eat and how our gut is digesting"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it. The metabolites that are produced by"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> the microbes in our gut"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> they affect the inflammatory response"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "throughout the whole body. And so"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "there I think um I think there is a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "to it. And so, uh, I I I focus on fiber,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "eating plenty of fiber throughout my"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "day. And"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> I would love to have a conversation with"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "a gastroenterenterologist about the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "different types of fiber because people"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "are like, \"Oh, I take Metamucil like the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "one type of fiber.\""}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> And there's soluble fiber, there's"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "insoluble fiber, there's fermentable"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "fiber and non-fermental fermentable"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "fiber. And so, I think there's still a"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "lot more to understand. But,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> you know what? I should know way more"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "about that because I I do look at fiber"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "very macro 30,000 foot in the air level"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "like, oh, fiber. But I'm a big avocados"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "guy, for example, which has a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "fiber in it. Does it have the types of"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "fiber that are all those different ones,"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "or is it one specifically only?"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> I I personally don't have all those"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "answers. Again, I I'm I'm hoping to have"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "a gastroenterenterologist on my own"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "podcast at some point. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> To to figure that out. I will say the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "nice thing about avocados because this"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "is kind of a segue back into um"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> Okay, so avocado, sorry, De just pulled"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "this up. Avocados contain both soluble"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "and insoluble fiber that contain."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> So a nice thing about avocado along with"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "pistachios along with the green leafy"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "vegetables"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> is that they contain uh what is called"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "luteine and zeazanthin."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "You look at me like you've never heard"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "this before."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Yeah, I haven't."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> So this is the the genius behind the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "green leafy vegetables. So if you think"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "why is it that green leafy vegetables"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "are so protective for the eye? Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "they have high concentrations of what"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "are called uh zanthaphil carotenoids. I"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "know I'm just throwing out these crazy"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "terms, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> I love it. It's great."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> So, uh zanthapil carotenoids carotenoids"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "there's over 600 almost 700 in nature."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "We only eat about 50 and of those 50 we"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "eat. Two deposit directly in the eye."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Okay?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> Technically three, but um vast majority"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "of it's two. Uh and that's lutein and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "zeazanthin. And this goes back to blue"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "light in some way. So we'll we'll get"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "there. So lutein zeizanthin"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "they have protective roles inside the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "eye. Both for uh really for three"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "things. One is that it works as an"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "anti-inflammatory. Two as an"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "antioxidant. So if there's any oxidative"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "stress from high energy light uh or any"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "inflammatory process from disease or"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "again high energy"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "that's protective. And then the third"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "part is that actually is a yellow"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "substance. It's what makes avocados and"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "pistachios kind of a green yellow color."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> And when it deposit inside the eye, it"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "filters high energy blue light. So your"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "body has this natural, it's known all"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "this time that when you eat these"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "vegetables and other food stuffs that"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "have this zanthil carotenoid, it"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "deposits directly to the eye and at high"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "concentrations in the area that is going"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "to be receiving the most dense of high"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "energy light and it shields it."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> And the scary thing is again most people"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "don't eat enough fruits and veggies. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "and so"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "we don't uh the the vast majority of the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "population only gets about one to two"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "milligrams of luteine a day."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> I'm getting a lot more than that."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> And you should be getting somewhere"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "between any depending on the the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "publication. Somewhere between 10 to 30"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "milligrams a day."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> I'm pretty like listening to you talk."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "I'm pretty pumped about my diet right"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "now. I eat the same exact lunch every"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "single day. I I do like two grilled"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "chicken breasts, a full bowl of"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "broccoli, a plate of brown rice, an"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "apple, an avocado, a protein shake,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "couple pieces of dark chocolate, 85% and"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "then a banana."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> Making me hungry, man."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> I'm loaded. It's great."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Uh and and so that's so luteine,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "zeazanthin, they are protective. And as"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "you get more in your body, but if if we"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "had one of our devices, we can measure"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "what's called macular pigment optical"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "density or empod testing. And so this"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "measures the amount of pigment deposited"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "in the back of the eye. And so the more"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "luteine, the more zeizanthin you get in"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "your diet, the more pigment you get, the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "more protective it is. And we see less"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "likelihood of aging eye diseases in the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "individuals who have higher amounts of"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "that pigment."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> And so uh unfortunately the vast"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "majority of people come in, if we do"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "empod testing, they're at like 2.3"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "for empod testing, and you want to be at"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "0.5 or greater. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> but you can improve to that if you make"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "changes."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> Yeah. And so I always support diet"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "first, right? Eat eat try to eat whole"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "healthy foods first. Uh, and then for"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "people who are just honest, they're"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "like, I'm not going to eat that much"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "leafy greens. They know they just don't"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "like it or you know, they they just they"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "even digestion that gives them upset"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "stomach or something like some people"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "can't handle broccoli."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> Hit that AG1."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> No, I wouldn't go there. Uh I can't I"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "can't I don't know actually any of their"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "clinical studies, but the uh they they"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "kind of have a bad reputation now, don't"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "they? Uh here and there. Some people"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "really love it."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> They've never I've never been sponsored"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "by them before, so I don't know much"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "about them, but I would love to know in"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "the comments if you have a bad"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "experience on that. Let me know."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> Yeah, I I've tried various green shake"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "supplements, stuff like that, and and"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "they taste good usually. Um I think they"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "have spirulina in them. It's supposed to"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "be good."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "the um there are supplements uh and so I"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "care is one of the only because there's"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "some doctors out there especially on"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "social media who are very"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "anti-supplement and I get that because"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "it has a bad reputation because there"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "are"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> there's not really the best legal"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "oversight of verifying that supplements"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "are actually one safe two that they're"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "actually effective uh there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "bad players in"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> oh there's a lot of [ __ ] in"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "supplements"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> there's a lot of [ __ ] uh and I can"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "talk about my own issues with with AI"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "people making fake videos of me deep"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "fakes to try and sell [ __ ] vitamins"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "I would never endorse."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> But uh so in the field of eye care we're"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "we because of what are called the A-"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "studies that I referenced before. If"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "somebody has an intermediate stage of"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "macular degeneration, it is standard of"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "care for us to recommend or at least"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "discuss"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "starting a supplement for the eye"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "because those studies showed that for"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "the people with that disease, you could"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "slow down that disease by about 25% over"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "the course of 5 years."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> And so, uh, there are benefits in that"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "specific case to taking those"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "supplements. Now with lutein zeazanthin"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "and those supplements contain lutein"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "zeizanthin uh they've done a lot more"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "studies on the function of your vision"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "not just reducing eye disease"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "development but if you want to see"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "better you want to have better contrast"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "right as and as an artist"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "you want to see colors more in depth"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "right or not even an artist you're"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "someone who just appreciates the beauty"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "of nature"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> you want to enjoy your life to the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "highest degree you can boost your"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "contrast in your vision you can reduce"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "glare at nighttime while you're driving."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "You can have better visual memory for"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "kids development for elderly. Uh taking"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "luteine and zeazanthin if again if"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "you're not getting it through diet, you"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "can take a supplement and they've shown"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "this with supplementation alone"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> that you can have these benefits. And so"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "a lot of professional athletes like"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "baseball players will take supplements"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "with lutein zeizanthin because their"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "vision is that much sharper if you can"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "react that quicker uh that much quicker."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "And then uh they've even just this last"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "year 2024 uh Dr. Stringham and Dr."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Nolan, they're two doctors I know. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "they did a research study using a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "luteine based supplement that people who"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "took that had reduced levels of oxidized"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "lipoproteins"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> which means"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": ">> uh so various lipoproteins that are"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "involved in ather theosclerosis"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "development. So leading toward plaque"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "development, heart attack, stroke,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "right? They showed that people who took"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "those supplements had significantly"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "reduced levels uh of these basically"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "inflammatory markers in the blood that"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "are associated with atherosclerosis"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "development."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "huge, huge help. 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Like now if we"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "talked more generally just about the"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "phones, we just went through the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "distance from the face and you've talked"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "about the dry eye syndrome and not"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "blinking as much. But like from"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "I don't know from like a ubiquitous"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "addiction standpoint to technology"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that's foreign, you know, it's not"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> you're not looking outdoors or something"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "like that. You're just kind of chilling"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "here. What are what are the main"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "symptoms you're seeing come into your"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "practice? Let's start with like kids in"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "general. Well, most kids, I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "it's related to screens, it is either"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "they can't see in the distance now,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> uh, or it's it's a feeling they can"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "their eyes are strained or they they use"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that, you know, my eyes hurt or I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "getting headaches."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> Uh, and often times it is cuz, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "I'll ask them, \"Well, how much time do"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "you spend on your phone?\" And they're"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "like, \"Not that long.\" And then mom's"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "like, \"Whatever. You're on there like"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "all day long.\" And they open up the the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "amount of hours, whatever it tells you."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "It's like"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> you're on there 13 plus hours a day."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "So that was even a bigger issue during"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "co it that that was that was definitely"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "a big thing. Um so so kids will are"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "spending a lot of time on those devices"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "and they're getting eye strain. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "getting headaches. Their risk for myopia"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "again is is going up because they're"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "indoors staring at these phones all day."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "And then some kids do come in and their"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "vision in the distance is reduced. And"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "it could be because they've developed"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "nearsidedness and they need glasses. But"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "a lot of times it's because they have"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "what's called an accommodative spasm."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "accommodative spasm."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> So the muscle so like if you've had like"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "a Charlie horse or a muscle spasm where"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "it contracts the muscles inside the eye"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "can get locked in that position too. So"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "they they should be able to see in the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "distance just fine, but their muscles"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "are locked into this plane up close. And"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "so if you take away the phone uh or if"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "we can sometimes in the eye clinic we"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "can give them medication that will"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "paralyze that muscle inside the eye and"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "it'll relax and let go and all of a"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "sudden they can see again"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> almost like a valium for the eye"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> away. But uh it's"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> like not at all."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Not at all. But uh it so that that's the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "other issue we see a lot of times with"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "with with younger individuals. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "even adults, uh, cuz we'll have, this"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "happens every week. There's a some"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "person who's like, I started a new job."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "I've been there for 3 4 months and it's"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "all on the computer and I'm getting eye"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "strain, headaches, dryness, all these"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "different things. I just I tried the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "blue light glasses and they didn't"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "really do anything. Like every doctor"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "hears that like three, four times a day."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "And there there is benefit to you can"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "get computer glasses that have some"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "power to reduce the the focus, that lift"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "of eye strain. you can put down that"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "that weight and that can help. Um the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the other issue that people aren't"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "talking about is the fact that we have"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "too many screens like"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Two like over here. Thank you. We have"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "one computer screen. We do have one"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "laptop, but a lot of people have two"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Yeah. You sit in front of two, three"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "monitors at a time."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> And when you're at in front of those"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "monitors, you're not just using your"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "eyes to look left and right. you"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "actually are moving your neck constantly"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "left and right all day long. Even if you"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "keep your head still and you shift your"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "eyes to the far sides, your neck muscle"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "does engage. Uh, and you can do this."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "You can actually take your hands and put"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "them in the back of your head"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> like this."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> Like that. But like kind of spllay out"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "your fingers like that."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> Push pretty I have to push pretty hard"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "to feel it on me. But if you keep your"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "head straight and feel right at the base"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "of the skull behind where the ears are,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "just face toward me, but then just shift"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "your eyes far left and as far as"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> Oh, you can feel the muscle move."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Did you feel that? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ] Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Yeah. It tenses up. And so your eyes are"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "priming your neck to move in that"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "direction. So if you're just looking"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "left and right all day on your computer,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "your muscles are constantly like, I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "going. So people come in with a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "not just headache but eye strain but"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "sore muscles, tight neck."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> Oh, that's so interesting."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> And so they're getting cervoggenic"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "issues that are related to not just the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "neck, but the pain and this tension of"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> What did you call that? Cervocenic."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Cervoggenic. Yeah, it's cervoenic"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "issues. Um I'm not a a supreme"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "specialist in it. My my girlfriend"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "actually is. Uh she knows way more about"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it than I do. Uh"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> what is she is she a doctor as well?"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Yeah. So she is also an eye doctor but"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "she specializes in neurooptometry"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "uh TBI brain injury rehab. So uh I knew"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "a little bit about it when I went to"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "school and then my residency I did a"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "little bit but uh I never really"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "specialized in it and she is at the top"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "of her field and I'm constantly learning"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "from her and she works in a specialty"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "multi-disiplinary se multidisciplinary"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "clinic with a physiatrist and then she's"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "got OT and PT in the same clinic. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "uh, obviously someone gets in a bad car"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "accident, uh, and now they have double"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "vision or they have all these, u strain"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "issues from TBI or or can't focus, they"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "can't function, and they have neck pain,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "whiplash injury, and so they have to end"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "up seeing all these specialists for"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "several months, and she helps them"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "rehab."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Wow, that's that's awesome. That's so"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "specialized, too."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And so, uh, she gives a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "lectures around the country and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "internationally on these subjects. And"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "so I've sat through her lectures and"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "learned a little bit from her. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": ">> this is making a little sense to me too"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "cuz like I always have like stingers in"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "my neck and back now. I lift six days a"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "week. So I've always just kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "assumed it's cuz"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> I'm pushing my body. But I wonder if"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "some of that is emanating from the fact"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "that I've spent the last six years"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "coming up on six years of my life"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "moving. I mean, you saw my setup moving"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "screen to screen all the time because"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "like even when I'm not on this, I am in"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "front of the screens. I built this thing"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "editing like you still do a lot of that"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> And props to you for doing so much of"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "yourself and building up such an an"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "incredible platform."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> Thank you. You too."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> I know it's a lot of work."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. But that could be that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "definitely could be related cuz like"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "it's just something that'll happen like"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "like I'm dealing with it right now."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Every 3 4 months I'm like ah [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "there's that stinger and I can't think"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "of when I did it. I'm like, \"No, I"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "didn't do a lift wrong. I didn't feel"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "something weird after a lift. It just"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "kind of like"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> propped up.\""}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> There might be something to again your"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "posture, your repetitive movements. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "and so now I'm I'm try I've been trying"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "to work on my posture and my um kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "my ergonomics at work and then setting a"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "timer so I have frequent breaks to get"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "up and do something different."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Get these chairs."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Yeah, these ones start."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> I'm going to have to look into that."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "They're literally called I I think it's"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "like [ __ ] I forget the name of the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "company. It's a Swiss company I want to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "say."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What What's it Hag?"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> Is it just Hag?"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> But there it's it's like called the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "ergonomic chair."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Because of what because of what it makes"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "your elbows do and everything and lean"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "back like this. Danny Jones showed me"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "this and made me order them and I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "regret it."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> It's good stuff."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> Yeah. The Hag Capisco."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> Yeah, it is comfortable. I'll give it"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that. Like to just sitting here, I I"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "feel pretty engaged. And my what I like"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "even better, honestly, for me is my"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "lower back and hips aren't hurting. They"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "don't feel tight cuz a lot of chairs"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "that I've had, even the one that I use"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "at home, which is like an ergonomic"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "chair, uh I still get really tight hips."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> And I don't know what's kind of unique"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "about this. It's just like the slopage"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "or something. It's it works well for me."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Yeah. That's that's another thing people"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "should be integrating not just"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "necessarily for eyes and all that but"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "for your posture because everything's"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "downstream from each other obviously but"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "like the whole standing desk thing I"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "think is is huge. I I think that's I I"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "see more and more people using it. I"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "keep one out there with a couple screens"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "like on the island."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> You know that we're not meant to sit"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "under fluorescent lights all day like"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "this in front of a in front of three"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "screens and with our back arched like"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "this. Like you can't tell me that's not"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "affecting [ __ ] everything,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> right? And taking breaks is really"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "important. And this is something the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "IARE field has has repeated over and"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "over and over again. Uh I'm sure people"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "have probably heard at some point the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "2020 2020 rule. Ever heard of that?"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> Maybe."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> Did Cal Newport invent that?"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> It's totally made up. I don't know who"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "made it up. Um I know that an IARE"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "professional made it up basically for"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "like a news sort of thing. It's like a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "rule of thumb. Good good habit."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> It's not actually based on real science."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "In fact, they did a study in 2023 to"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "challenge it to see if it had a minute"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "clinically meaningful benefit and it"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "didn't. Uh it meant that every 20"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "minutes you should take a 20 second"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "break looking 20 ft away."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Oh no, that is not what I was thinking"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "of. Okay, 20 second break looking 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "away,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> right? And that was to relieve eye"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "strain from sitting on the computer and"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "phone all day."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> But what they found is that 20 seconds"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "of a break is not enough. You need to go"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "longer. It needs to be closer to at"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "least two minutes or a minute and a half"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "and I try to go to five minutes. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "adopted the the pomodoro technique. Some"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "biohackers talk about it a lot. Um but"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "it does it helps. There there are"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "clinical studies showing that people who"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "work for 25 minutes intention it's like"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "I'm going to sit down with intention to"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "work for 20 25 minutes and then I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "going to intentionally take a five"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "minute break"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> doing something else. Not thinking about"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "what I was working on. I'm going to get"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "up. I'm going to go get water, use the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "restroom, go step outside of my balcony,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "enjoy the fresh air, um you know, check"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "my mail, take do practice some golf"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "swings or something."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> So, it's like a mental break, it's a"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "physical break. You're getting up,"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "getting some movement in"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> and then dive intentionally back into"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "your work. And it actually there's at"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "least one study that shows people have"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "better productivity. They're more"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "efficient because they're intentionally"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "setting those breaks."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> And so, I've been adopting that. Um I"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "have a timer on my desk that I use. the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "little circle thing."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> Uh it's it's a docagon for me, but"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "there's there's many different products"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "online."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> It's got one of those. It actually is a"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "nice little pro productivity hack."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> So, uh and I think that's also good for"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "the eyes. Like you're you're letting go"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "of that weight for at least a few"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "minutes, giving your eyes that little"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "bit of a break. You're hopefully"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "blinking a little bit more normal. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> and so, so that's another thing people"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "can kind of kind of take away."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "huge, huge help. And if you would like"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "to follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

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Normally in"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "conversation, uh, it's somewhere around"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "20 times a minute on average,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> but when you're on the screen, it drops"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "down to four to five, four to five a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "minute."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Whoa. That's like a 500% decrease."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Yeah. There's there's studies will"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "report different amounts, but uh that's"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "where it's around. It's around four to"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "five times a minute while you're staring"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "at the screen. Again, we're just we're"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "hyperfocused."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> And kind of like a sniper when they're"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "focusing, they don't want to blink."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> That's how I think about it. They are"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "you're hyperfocused and you don't want"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "to you don't want to lose sight of what"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you're looking at. And then we notice"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "again people's eyelids don't come down"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "all the way. And so your your eyelid"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "will come down just to cover the pupil."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "So your brain thinks that you blinked,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "but you actually didn't fully close."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> And so the tear film isn't spreading"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "evenly across the surface. And your oil"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "glands that uh release oil from the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "eyelid to help stabilize the tears,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "those oils aren't releasing as much. And"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "so there is at least a theory, it's not"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "as strong of evidence right now, but"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "there is a theory that because our"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "eyelids aren't closing all the way, the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "oil glands aren't pumping. And these oil"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "glands are becoming clogged or not being"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "used, so they're dying off. And so we do"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "tend to see not just older adults who"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "spend a lot of their career on a"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "computer have bad functioning oil"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "glands. But then even teenagers are"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "starting to have dry eye disease and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "these glands dying off. And we think"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "it's because of the heavy screen usage."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> I I mean 1 plus 1 equals two on that"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "one. That feels"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> again I I always have to point out that"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "the research right now is not as we"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "don't have as robust research to confirm"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "that. It's more of a theory, but uh"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "there's a lot of uh dryey specialists"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "who who at least anecdotally report yeah"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "we think this is tied to it."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Are you see like in that vein? Are you"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "seeing already evolutionary changes"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "whether that's physically or just like"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "usewise with the eyes that has been"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "happening over the past 10 20 years as a"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "result of us being more way more"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "digitized."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> So I personally haven't seen that. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "also tough because evolution takes many"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "many generations. But I know uh some"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "pediatric specialists"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "have been discussing uh a phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "where they've noticed that kids who do"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "have uh exposure to tablets, iPads, and"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "they spend a lot of time up close."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Usually when you focus up close on an"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "object, you not only converge your eyes,"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "your eyes have to turn in, right, to"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "keep it single. Your muscle inside has"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "to flex and focus, but then your pupil"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "also is tethered to this. And usually"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "when you're up close your pupils get"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "smaller."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> And they're noticing for these kids who"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "spend a lot of time up close, their"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "pupils aren't getting smaller anymore."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Somehow there's been a a disconnection"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "in neurologically."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "button. It's a huge, huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "you. that these three components, this"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "triad between the pupil, the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "accommodative muscles, the cer body, and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "your medial erecti with with conversion"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "should all be tied together. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "pupils are relaxing and the pupils are"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "getting larger. So, they have like"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "dilated pupils while they're looking up"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "close. And we're not entirely sure like"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "what the benefit of this would be or"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "what the ramifications may be down the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "road, but I've had some pediatric"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "specialists report that they're they're"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "seeing a lot more of this now that"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "they've never seen before. And that may"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "in some ways like especially with the"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "kids that have the tablet in their hand"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "right after birth or you know a year or"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "two after birth like we might end up"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "seeing kids literally born with that as"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "a result of"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> I'm not sure if it's going to pass. I I"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "I personally don't think it you know"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "like genetically that's going to pass"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "down. Okay. Um but I think this is we're"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "going into kind of like uh you know this"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "is totally like imagination thinking"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "what's going to happen in the future. I"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "do have um thoughts of how our autonomic"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "nervous system is influenced by device"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "use and by um being in this constant"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "state of like dopamine. I need to I need"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "to be entertained. I need to be in wow"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "mode. autonomic nervous system."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So, your fight orflight type of"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "response, right? Um if you're being"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "hunted by a bear, it's like do you"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "either run away,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> do you freeze, or do you uh fight back,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "right? And so, when you're in"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "sympathetic tone, you're you're you're"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "going to fight. You're you're going to"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "do those sort of responses. And usually"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "in sympathetic tone, your pupil gets"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "larger."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> And when you like to see something like"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "that's why a lot of Have you ever had a"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "a a professional poker player on or"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "anything like that?"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> Not on the podcast, no. But I played a"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "lot of poker growing up."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> And people do what? They wear sunglasses"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "while they're playing poker. Why do they"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "do that?"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> Because their eyes dilate and they get"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "excited."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> And so when people are excited all the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "time, their pupils, they're getting the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "sympathetic response to pupils to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "dilate. And so I wonder if another issue"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "with our our body's hormone regulation"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "is being thrown off because we're kind"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "of being put into this constant state of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "alarm. this constant state of like I"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "need to be paying attention. I need to"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "be uh stressed out or cautious. Is this"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "having an effect on our cortisol? Is it"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "affecting our stress levels? And and"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "deeper is it affecting our central"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "nervous system to some degree? And and"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "is that changing us as as a species?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Again, this is I I'm not a specialist in"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "this area. This is just kind of my fun"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "thoughts where my brain goes late at"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "night."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> You have to think about it. And again,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "it like you said, it's going to take"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "decades to even really put that that"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "type of"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "takeaway together because you have to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "see it develop over generations. But"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "these are valid questions just because"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the curve of how we're changing our"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "day-to-day life has never moved as fast"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "as it's moving right now."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. Do you have,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "I don't know, like guidelines that you"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "give parents for their kids or even for"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the parents, by the way, because"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "everyone's [ __ ] addicted to phones"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "about how much they should be using"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "their phones or what they should try to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "limit in their life to try to prevent"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "some problems. Well, uh I know the like"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the American the Academy of Pediatrics,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "they do have like guidelines for young"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "kids on like they shouldn't be on"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "screens or for certain age groups like"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "avoid screens. If they are on screens,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "it's only for FaceTime and if they're uh"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "on a screen, it's only for educational"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "purposes at like an hour a day. They"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "have certain guidelines up to like the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "age of six."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "I personally just tell again the same"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "thing. Let's get outside, take breaks"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "every third 25, 30 minutes from, you"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "know, near near device stuff. Uh those"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "are usually kind of the recommendations"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "that I that I give. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> you don't have kids yet, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> No. No. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> have you thought about when you have"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "kids, like what your"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "what your recommendations as a father"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "are going to be? If I ever had kids, and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "I don't think I probably will, but if I"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "did have kids,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "I would probably try to keep them away"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "from phones and devices other than for"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "educational purposes until they're kind"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "of required because a lot of like"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "kindergartens now are giving kids like"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "iPads,"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> you know? So, it's like you're not going"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "to keep them away from it. They have to"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "learn and adapt and evolve and learn"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "those skills, too."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Um, but I would definitely try to put a"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "limitation on it. I think as a young"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "kid, I got way too sucked into video"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "games, right? As like an addictive"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> And my parents growing up at least like,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "\"Hey, you get one hour a day. You got to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "finish all of your chores. You can't do"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "more than that.\" Uh, they did a good job"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "until I was probably 14 and then they're"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "like, \"He's mature enough.\" And I just"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "played nonstop."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> Uh, so I think there is a good I wish I"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "would have spent more time playing"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "outside. I wish I would have been more"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "adventurous to be like, \"Hey, let's go"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "try golf. Hey, let's go try biking. Hey,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "let's uh\" I think as a as a parent,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "I would try to encourage like a weekly"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "adventure like, \"Hey, this weekend as a"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "family, we're going to try something new"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "that we've never done just to show kids"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "that it's okay to try something new and"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "be bad at something.\""}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Because you're having fun. You're"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "exploring life. I think that's something"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "that maybe I didn't get as a young kid."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "We had kind of a family routine of we"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "went bowling and we'd go to the same"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "restaurants and and I felt like as I got"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "into college and I had more freedom, I"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "was like, \"Oh my god, there's so many"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "things I can do and try and it's like"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "gosh, I wish I would have had more of"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "those experiences at a younger age.\" And"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "so that's"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> that's outside the box. I like that."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> Yeah. So that's uh I think just getting"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "out of the house and learning those life"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "skills. That's okay to suck at something"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "at first. Uh, but it's also great to"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "just have those experiences and enjoy"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "life and um, I mean, how you supposed to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "know that, you know, you're you're going"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "to like to play a certain sport unless"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "you just try it"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> 100%. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> I also think it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "interesting to see the kids that have"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "been born since 2021 and are continuing"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "to, you know, come onto the earth who"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "are not"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "were not affected by the stoppage of CO"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> to see how they develop and what their"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "relationship with inside versus outside"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "is as they grow up. You know what I"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "mean? Because a lot of people, didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "matter what age you were, whether you"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "were 5 years old or 13 years old, there"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "was a a stoppage in life that happened"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "with CO, everyone went indoors, things"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "went to the screens. They they went from"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "like ubiquitous to [ __ ] everything,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> you know, like a whole different level"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "after when when COVID happened such that"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "for all ages, but I'm focusing on the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "kids here who were in development years,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the expectations of where you spend your"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "day and how you spend your time"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "completely changed. And so now, even if"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "these kids that are being born since"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "then are being born into a world of all"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "screens and everything around them, are"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "they not going to be jaded by the idea"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "of like, oh, I got used to the comfort"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "of being inside when I was forced to be"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "there. Versus, are they going to be more"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "thinking, you know, I want to go see"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "what's out there. I want to explore. I"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "want to do new fun things. 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If I have more time, maybe I'll"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I'll dig into it."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Yeah, we'll talk about it on future"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "podcasts for sure."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> But this thing right here,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> I've been getting at it all day."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> In 2007, iPhone comes out. By 2011, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "widely widely adopted. By 2015, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "almost completely adopted. And"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "obviously, Google Android, same kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "issue right here. And now today, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "ubiquitous with every single thing we"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "do. everywhere we go. Our whole life is"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "in this thing. And just evolutionarily"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "speaking, human beings did not evolve"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "over the last 6,000 years or however"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "long you want to say we've been around."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> To look at a screen like this and read"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "in small font, you know, here or here"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "and scroll at all times with our"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "eyesight. So what is you know from your"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "medical perspective what are the main"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "issues you have seen develop over say"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "even the last 5 years or something like"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "that that you believe is directly tied"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "to let's start with just blue light and"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "then we'll work our way the phone"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Okay. So just blue light uh so the vast"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "majority of blue light isn't actually"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "doing anything."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "And so that's that's a big issue uh that"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "people get confused about."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> Yes, blue light will affect your sleep"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "cycle."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> But it's not just blue light. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "actually all light. So there is a"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "receptor in the back of the eye that"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "they didn't know about till about 10 15"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "years ago called an IP RGC, an"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "intrinsically photosensitive retinal"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "ganglion cell. And it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "communicate eyesight or vision to you to"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "be able to see. It simply is a receptor"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "to pick up light energy and tell the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "brain, is there light out there?"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> And evolutionary wise, where did light"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "come from? The sun."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> And so there is a those receptors are"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "very sensitive to blue light, but it is"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "still sensitive to other wavelengths of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "light."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "button. It's a huge, huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "you. M [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> so uh if you the whole point is that you"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "know you wake up in the morning you see"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "sun and that tells your brain it these"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "receptors pick that up like hey the sun"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "is out shut down the melatonin we want"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "you to be awake sun goes down or imagine"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "we're in a world where we don't have"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "artificial light sun goes down then"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "those receptors aren't getting that"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "light signal and say okay it's time to"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "slow down time to go to bed you release"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "melatonin you get sleepy you have a"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "night's sleep. Now, the problem is that"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "we're now surrounded by artificial light"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "everywhere. And so,"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "we we get this extra light signal to,"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "hey, it's still light out. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "kind of delaying our melatonin later and"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "later, and our sleep quality goes down."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "A lot of the issues with modern"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "technology, whether it be TV screens,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "computer screens, and actually just LED"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "lights in a lot of the places, they're"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "more energy efficient now, but they emit"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "higher wavelengths of blue light than"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "older forms of lighting. So, older, you"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "know, just"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> this does."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. um compared to old, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the older yellow light bulbs, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "maybe we grew up with um or even just,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "you know, candle light,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> way more on the yellow spectrum, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Warmer colors. They they still will"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "trigger the those receptors in the eye,"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "but not as intensely as the blue light"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "will."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> And so, uh so that that is one factor"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "that will affect your sleep cycle. Now,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "the blue light glasses that are out"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "there,"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "uh, if they are a darker orange color of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "a blue light glasses, they will help"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "slow down or reduce the amount of light"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "hitting those receptors. And they have"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "shown in studies that those type of dark"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "orange glasses do help with establishing"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "a better melatonin production compared"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "to the people who are just staring at an"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "iPad before bed."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> Now, is it clinically meaningful? That's"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the question. I don't really have an"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "answer to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> because there are people who claim"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "anecdotally, hey, I just I sleep better"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "when I wear these orange glasses at"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "night time. Great. Um, that's something"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "to keep trying if you feel it helps you."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "But if you're still staying up at night,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "still scrolling your screen, you're"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "still surrounded by lights, there is"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "still light coming from the side of the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "glasses, the regular light, just the the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "dopamine surge you get from scrolling"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "social media, that may also be affecting"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "your sleep cycles."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> So, this is where I would love to have a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "sleep specialist come in and answer kind"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "of what they see or what they've studied"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "on the effect of just device use on the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "effect of sleep."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> Oh, that would be a cool podcast. You"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "would like a sleep expert in here as"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "well"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> cuz the the reality is that most of the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "blue light from screens is such a low"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "energy, it's not going to make a cl"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "clinically meaningful impact."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> To the health of the eye or necessarily"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "the the sleep cycle. It will to some"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "extent. Does it make any difference then"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "at all that like I like I haven't had"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "blue light on this phone in 3 years. I"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "have turned off."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Yeah. The yellow it kind of it makes it"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "the screen a little bit more of a yellow"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "color."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> Right. So like if I have to go check a"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "video before it goes out I check it on"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the computer."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Cuz you shut off"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the exact Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> So turning they've shown also in those"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "that research that just turning it to"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "that yellow mode also is like 90%"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "effective at at negating the blue light"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "diminishment of your melatonin. Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> So, if you just turn that on, you"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "probably don't need those blue light"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "glasses unless again you're just super"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "sensitive and you still have lights on"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "and things like that. U so the best"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "practice is just shut off the device,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "switch to a paperback book at night,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "have yellow toned lights in the evening,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "not the bright light, bright white"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "lights."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Um the other thing to keep in mind is"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "that the light coming from a device, the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "amount of blue light you get depends on"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "how close it is to your face. Oh, that's"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> So, there's something called the inverse"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "square law. So, basically, if you just"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "double the distance, you've reduced that"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "amount by four times. So, the amount the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "effect of most blue light glasses on the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "melatonin effect is just this. Are we,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "this is getting a little in the weeds,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "but I I don't know how much you're able"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "to even measure this, but with kids who"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "are now growing up with the phone in"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "their hand and everything, are we seeing"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "an average distance to the face a lot"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "closer for kids than it is adults?"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> Actually, it's uh well, one, kids do"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "hold things closer to their face, but"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "also adults do. I mean, even if people"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "try to be like, I'm going to hold it out"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "here. If you watch them long enough,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "it'll gradually get closer and closer."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Uh, and they've shown that in research"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "studies. most, you know, they recommend,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "you know, about 2 ft away or or what"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "like the Harmon distance is what it's"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "called. The distance from your elbow to"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "your hand and should be kind of equal"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "distant from your eyes. But if you start"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "there, it does gradually get closer and"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "closer to about five inches away from"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the face. That's what people tend to do,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> Again, the feeling of eye strain from"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "phone use is compounded by the fact that"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "you are having to use your eye muscles"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "and you're holding that five pound"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "weight all day long. you know, two pound"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "closer you get, you're increasing the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "weight, right? It's like, I'm holding it"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "at 5 lb right here versus 2 lb out"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "[snorts] here."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> And then the blink rate. So, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "eye strain people experience is just"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "their eyes are dry because they're not"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "blinking enough and [snorts] they're not"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "blinking as completely. And so, you got"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to kind of get a combination of all of"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> And then people are like, I feel all"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "this eye strain. I need the blue light"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "glasses. Well, there's been no"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "significant or no like meaningful"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "clinical studies showing that blue light"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "glasses"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "do in fact reduce the feeling of eye"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "strain."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Yeah. And the thing that you're that's"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "really coming across is yes, there's"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "still a difference between blue light"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and less blue light like you were given"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the example of like old candles or or"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "old light. But what I'm getting is that"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "it's just, you know, I'm going to put a"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "percentage on it. Correct me if I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "wrong, but maybe like 90% of it is"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "really just light in general and we are"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "just really discriminating the blue"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "light because that's what's on most"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "people's phones and we're associating"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "the problem all as [snorts] one."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> 100%."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> So that's that's a myth in a way."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": ">> It very much. I think it's been I mean"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "there is a sliver of truth to it and"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "that's how most myths start, right? The"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "sliver of truth is that there is a"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "receptor in the eye that is sensitive to"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "blue light and [clears throat] it does"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "affect our sleep cycles. But the the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "vast majority of the story is just that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "we're we're picking that as the bad guy"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> when it's actually just the fact that"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "we're on these devices and we're not"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "blinking enough and we're we're on them"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "all the time."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> So that that's the big part of that"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "story."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "button on the video. They're both a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "huge help. And if you would like to"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "and Bob, you know, sealed the deal. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> and what was the what was the actual"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "like D-Day like where there's a where"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> that morning? Um"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "that year. Then the ne the next thing"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "that happened is that somebody tried to"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "come get me kind of unofficially. Um the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "the State Department, the FBI, my mom"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "knew about him. Um I did not. And he"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "seemed to the the whole arrangement sort"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "of happened quickly. And um all of a"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "sudden um one of the translators came"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "into the compound where I was staying"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "into the prison house with a text"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "um and he said, \"This is from somebody"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "who's going to come get you. Um and I"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "want you to respond to this text in a"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "notebook and then I'll go away and"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "write your answer to the text. Probably"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "go somewhere into the bush to use a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "different cell tower.\" But the text"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "said, \"Uh, tell Michael we will bring"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "him back to Dunkish.\""}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Uh um so basically the my correct"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "address at the time in Berlin and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "not easy to spell dunkasa has a c that"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "most Americans miss."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Didn't think a smiley could have written"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> and um"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "I I thought oh well so that was my first"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "moment of realizing that people were"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "still working on my freedom that my"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "apartment was still intact. um that um"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "um you know people were still thinking"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "about me and that was that was profound."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "And so I wrote scribbled out an answer"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "um that night I think they expected"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "money to land and it didn't. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> We definitely heard drones overhead."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "And then the next morning, the the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "guards were so frustrated um that they"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "were very tense, they didn't even let me"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "go to the bathroom. I got angry and I"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "raised my voice and we switched prison"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "houses."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> What month is this? Like June, July"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "maybe?"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> June 2014. And I found out later that um"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "a guy who had worked uh as a SEAL during"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Blackhawk Down um and had good"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "connections to this particular clan, the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Assads"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "um had found a way to try to pay off"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "just part of the guard team or part of"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "the part of the pirate group that was"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "holding me, not the entire coalition of"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "pirates. And that's what made"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "negotiations so hard was that there were"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "a bunch of pirates in the larger network"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that wanted to be paid off, right? Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "there were two large groups, one that"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "was holding me on the boat and one that"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "was responsible for me on land. And I"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "think his idea was to shave off the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "immediate corner of the gang that was"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "holding me on land for less money. And"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "um, he landed. He thought everything was"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "straight. They told him they needed"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "twice as much money. And um,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> he the meeting was in a hotel room and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "he almost killed the guy. He almost"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "killed the Somali who was trying to"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "screw him over. How did this end?"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Uh, eventually the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Hey guys, if you haven't already"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "subscribed, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "button. It's a huge huge help. Thank"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> A a larger ransom was paid um through a"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "fund that my mom set up uh 1.6 million"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "that a lot of people had piled into. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "eternally grateful for everyone who"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "helped."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> That's unreal."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> And um at the end, another negotiator"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "came on the phone. His name was Bob. I"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "didn't know who Bob was, but all of a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "sudden I was talking to Bob on the phone"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "and he had successfully freed some uh"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "some Kenyans who were being held by the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "same pirate gang. I think they were"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Kenyan medical workers who were captured"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "on land in Somalia by essentially the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "same bosses and um so he was used to"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "negotiating with them. So he stepped in"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "um after they were freed to help my mom"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> it's the FBI helping with"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> Yeah, they knew him."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> Okay. the um so they they brought him in"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "essentially and Bob you know sealed the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "deal. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> and what was the what was the actual"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "like D-Day like where there's a where"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "you"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> That morning um I was lying on a"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "mattress in a filthy prison house as"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "usual in Galao and around 6 when I first"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "woke up a pirate came in with a cell"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "phone and he said there's a phone call"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "said okay Michael it's Bob again do you"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "know what's going to happen I said no I"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "thought Bob honestly I I thought I"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "thought Bob worked for the UN I thought"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Bob maybe worked for the Pentagon I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "thought Bob was trying to find me for a"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "for a violent rescue something. Um I I"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "thought it was a flip of a coin whether"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "I was going to die in a violent rescue"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "or get freed, you know, peacefully or"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "whatever. Um tried to tried to indicate"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "to Bob where I was in German. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "thinking there would be a recording and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "somebody could translate it. Um I no I"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "had done that on a previous phone call."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "This phone call lasted all of 30"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "seconds. I said no, I have no idea"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "what's going to happen. The pirate went"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "proof of life only and took the phone"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "away. So, I was still in the dark. I"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "still had no clue. Um, but that pirate"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "later said, \"You're going free today.\""}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay, yeah, whatever.\""}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> I'd heard that so many times. There's no"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "way I was going to believe a bunch all"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "the time. That's one reason I had to"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "sort of give up hope is that they had"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "given me hope a few times by saying,"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "\"You're going to go free in two weeks,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Michael. Michael, just one one more"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "month. Don't worry.\""}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> And so, the first few cycles, I was"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "stupid enough to believe them and I got"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "my hopes up and then dusted, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "right? I mean, I was in worse emotional"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "shape afterwards. So, I had to think of"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "hope and despair as a as a wheel, right,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "that I had to detach from."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": ">> So, that's what I had. And um um I've I"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "haven't heard anyone else say that they"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "detach themselves from hope like that."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "But, you do hear a lot of hostages"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "saying they no longer believe they're"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "captives when they say they're going"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "free because that you hear that a lot."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> And so, that afternoon I was like,"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "whatever, you know, don't believe it."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "But a a car showed up that afternoon"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "when I went to the bathroom and the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "guard outside the bathroom said,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "\"Michael, Gotti,\" which means your car,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "your car is here."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> Um, I mean, I can hear the gotti. Who"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "cares? Um, some Somali came in with a"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "sack of money,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "like hundreds bundled,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and it probably amounted to $10,000,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "which was probably the payment for the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "guard team. I still didn't believe it. I"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "still thought"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "largest chance is that I've been sold to"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Alshabaab or some other pirate game. But"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "all my guards started to shake my hand"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "and say goodbye. I'm like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "whatever you guys, you know, but they"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "had packed up their things, so that was"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "real. They told me to pack my my stuff."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Okay, I did. And then they said their"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "story changed. First they said they were"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "going to drive me to the airport. Like,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "okay, that sounds good. That's the first"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "positive thing I've heard. And then I"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "got into the car with two Somali"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "who did not blindfold me. Um, no armed"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "guards. Normally I was packed into a car"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "by men with clashing cops. Um, this"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "these were two guys who may or may not"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "have had a pistol on them. I got to sit"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "in the open back seat and um, no"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "blindfold. This is positive. This is not"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "bad."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> And they said, \"We're not going to take"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "you to the airport. we're going to take"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "you just out of the city and we're going"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "to give you to another Somali. Like,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "[ __ ] you just sold me to"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "another gang. I was ready to bite"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "someone's head off."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Um, they did that and they basically put"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "me in another car with a driver and"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "another guy got out of that car and into"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "the So, the pirates drove away."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Where's Roly, by the way?"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> Oh, Roly was left I left him on the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "ship."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> Oh, that's a way ago. Okay. All right."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> So, I had no news of Rolley. I had heard"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "a rumor that that he and Mark got free."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> Um but I didn't believe those rumors"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "either."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "that's a good question though because I"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "got in the car and um this this guy in"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "the car driver, he's not armed. Um he"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "said, \"You should probably lean back"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "your your seat in case people are"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "looking for you. Just make sure you're"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "not being seen through the window.\""}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Like, \"Okay, whatever.\" He said, \"Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "I'm going to take you to a hotel and"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "your mother should be here.\" Like, damn"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "it. Will somebody just tell me the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "[ __ ] truth? My mother is not in"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Somalia. My mother did not come to Gala."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "What is going on? He said whatever. He,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "you know, dialed a number on his phone."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "So, talk to her yourself."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "That's something. Um, my mom and Bob"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "were on the other end of the line and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "they said, \"Michael, you're going free.\""}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "And my mom, who listened to both phone"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "calls, both the one that morning and the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "one in the car, she said, \"The"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "difference in my voice was like night"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "and day.\" So, that was the first moment"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "that I truly believed I was going to go"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "through."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> What is that? What is like does your"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "whole body have like that rush happen"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "where you're like holy [ __ ] I didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "feel it that way but for the first time"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "I it was I got good news right and for"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "me it was a steady lightning during the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "day um it didn't happen all at once but"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that was the first big moment that was"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the first important moment and um you"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "know there were good indications all"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "along the way and that was the moment"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "where I knew for sure that I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "being sold on"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> and um but you know there were still"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "some steps and so they that guy brought"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "me to a hotel and that's where I changed"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "drivers I think I had to go upstairs in"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the hotel and make a phone call."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> Some mayor of North Galao, I think. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Galkka is a divided city. Shook my hand."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> thanks for your stay."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Somali elder."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Hope you enjoyed."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> Thanks."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> Leave a fivestar review."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> And then I got into another car and then"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "this guy had better English. So, it was"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "getting closer, right? This guy turned"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "out to be he turned out to work for a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "hostage working group."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> Jesus Christ."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "huge, huge help. And if you would like"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "to follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The early January 2026 rendition of"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "wasn't only carried out for legal"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "reasons. Yes, there was an open"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "indictment for Nicholas Maduro in"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "American courts because he was labeled a"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "narot terrorist. Yes, there were many"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "months of buildup along the coast of"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Venezuela both militarily and"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "diplomatically in order to anticipate"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "and prepare for the ultimate rendition"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "of Maduro. But even though he was"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "captured by CIA and American special"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "forces and was sent to a prison to await"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "trial, there is still what's known as a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "secondary benefit, a quiet hidden"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "benefit that not many people are talking"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "about and very few understand. And"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "that's what we're going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "today. I want to talk to you about how"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "President Donald Trump plans to use"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Venezuela to save the US economy. Unless"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "you've been hiding under a rock for the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "last few weeks, then you've heard"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "multiple times over now that Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "has the single largest oil reserve"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "anywhere in the planet. Number one"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "largest, 303 billion barrels of oil,"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "which actually puts it about 15% larger"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "than Saudi Arabia, which is the second"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "largest oil platform, bigger than"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Canada, and bigger than Iran, the top"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "four largest oil repositories in the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "world. Venezuela is at the top of that"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "list. So, it's no surprise that"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Venezuela has natural crude, heavy crude"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "oil as a natural resource. And there is"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "a benefit to that crude oil. But what's"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "talked about even less and rarely"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "understood is that Venezuela also has"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "one of the largest critical mineral"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "reserves in all of the Western"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Hemisphere, the largest gold reserves in"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "all of Latin America, plus a"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "historically longstanding relationship"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "with the United States prior to the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Chavez regime. Donald Trump understands"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "this. His administration understands"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "this and they are using the rendition of"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Nicholas Maduro as a springboard to"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "rebuild the US economy because of these"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "very unique elements that are only"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "present in Venezuela. In economic terms,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Venezuela is a country labeled as vast"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "geological wealth. Meaning the geology"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "of the country is core to its wealth."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Yes, that means its oil reserves are"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "important, but it also means its natural"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "gas reserves are important. Its critical"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "mineral reserves are important and its"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "gold reserves are important. Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "is a cornucopia of highly valuable"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "natural resources, all conveniently"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "located just across the Gulf from the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "United States. Let's get really specific"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "about how big these reserves are. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "it has the largest oil reserves in the"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "world. We've already covered that. It"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "actually has the second largest natural"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "gas reserves in all of the American"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "continents. It also has the largest gold"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "reserves in all of Latin America. And"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "lastly, its critical minerals,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "specifically its rare earth critical"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "minerals, are some of the largest in the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Western Hemisphere. So, within just"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "these four areas, you can start to see"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "how what America needs the most. Rare"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "earth minerals, critical minerals, oil,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "uh, gold, these elements are all present"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "in Venezuela. And conveniently enough,"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "150 American warships are parked off the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "coast of Venezuela, making it the safest"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "it's been in the last 30 years for"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "American business enterprise to enter"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "into Venezuela. Let's dig deeper into"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "the crude oil reserves that exist in"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Venezuela alone. So, yes, it's a large"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "deposit of oil, but just having oil"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "isn't enough. You have to be able to"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "actually refine that oil into something"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "useful. Gasoline, diesel, petroleum"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "products. Venezuela on its own doesn't"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "have much of a refining capability. It"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "doesn't even have much of a drilling"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "capability. In fact, the single country"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "in the world with the most oil"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "refineries is actually, drum roll"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "please, the United States. The United"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "States has the most oil refining"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "capacity anywhere in the world. We"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "outpace China. We outpace Iran. We"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "outpace Russia. We outpace Saudi Arabia."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "The United States oil production"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "industry was actually built on the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "promise of having access to Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "oil. So the exact type of heavy crude"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "oil that's in the repositories around"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Venezuela is the exact type of crude oil"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "that US refineries were built to handle."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "The two countries were always meant to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "work together. And the United States"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "wants to be a state that refineses the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "oil rather than a state that drills the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "oil. Specifically because when you"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "control the final product, you control"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the pricing, the market share, and the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "distribution of that final product. The"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "United States doesn't want to have that"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "natural resource itself. It wants to"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "pull that natural resource from a"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "neighboring country. And Venezuela is"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "the perfect option. So in the very near"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "future, you can expect that American"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "corporations, American oil industry is"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "going to start pulling natural resources"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "out of the ground in Venezuela so that"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "it can be refined across Texas and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Arkansas in the United States. And then"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the US will have a major stake in"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "controlling the price distribution and"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "flow of crude oil, refined oil,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "gasoline, and petroleum products. All of"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "which are precursors to military,"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "defense, and industrial use all over the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "world. A second important area that the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "United States is interested in is in the"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "critical minerals that exist inside of"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Venezuela. Two of those critical"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "minerals include iron ore and something"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "called boxite. Now, iron ore is"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "something that's available all over the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "world, but it's largely refined in"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "China. The United States has its own"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "iron ore capability, and it can develop"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "its own iron internally using internal"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "mines and internal manufacturers. 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So whether"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "you're talking about aluminum foil or"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "aluminum cans or the aluminum that's"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "used in stealth fighter jets, it all"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "comes from a mineral called boxite. The"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "United States has no meaningful reserve"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "of boxite inside its own territory. The"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "largest boxite reserves in all of the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Western Hemisphere actually exist in"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Venezuela. And those boxite reserves are"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "underutilized just like most natural"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "resources in Venezuela. So the United"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "States has become uncomfortably reliant"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "on Chinese boxite and Australian boxite"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "that's actually refined in China in"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "order to maintain our aluminum demand."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Not just for our consumer demand, but"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "also for our military, industrial, and"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "technological use. So the aluminum that"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you and I use every day, almost 100% of"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "it comes through China, which is why"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "China has started to use export controls"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "as a way to punish the United States for"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "tariffs. And one of those big festering"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "risks is the risk tied to aluminum and"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "boxite. So Donald Trump is looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Venezuela seeing these untapped boxite"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "reserves and knows that the United"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "States could have all of the aluminum it"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "could ever need for military, national"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "security, industrial, modernization,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "technological needs just in the next"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "continent south of us in South America."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "and any logistics that are built to ship"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Venezuelan oil to the United States"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "could also be used to ship Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "boxite to the United States. So now the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "United States would have access to very"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "inexpensive oil and nearly unlimited"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "boxite which would be required for us to"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "continue to build our military and build"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "our technological infrastructure into"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the future. Not just a few years but"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "multiple generations. Now you're"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "starting to see the picture of how"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Donald Trump is looking at Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "He's not just looking at it as a narot"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "trafficking terrorist state. He's not"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "just looking at it as an ally to Russia,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "China, and Iran. He's not just seeing it"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "as a pain in the ass. He's actually"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "seeing it as a possibility for"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "incredible potential in the future, long"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "after Donald Trump steps down from"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "office. The third critical resource that"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "you have to consider when you look at"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Venezuela is gold. Venezuela has the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "largest gold deposits in all of Latin"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "America. Latin America includes Central"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "America and South America. So that means"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "in all of the Western Hemisphere, the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "gold really exists in the United States"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "and Venezuela. And as of right now, with"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the rendering of President Maduro,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Donald Trump has more power and more"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "control in Venezuela than any president"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "before him, reaching back into the"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "1980s. It would be impossible to"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "consider the opportunity of Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "without considering the opportunity of"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Venezuelan gold to boost not just the US"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "economy, but also long-term sovereign"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "wealth for the United States. So, let's"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "recap what we know right now. We know"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "that Venezuelan oil is going to benefit"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the United States. We know that"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Venezuelan boxite is going to benefit"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the United States. We know that"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Venezuelan gold is going to benefit the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "United States. So with these three"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "resources alone, the United States has"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "essentially tripled its amount of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "financial benefit from the rendition of"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "one corrupt world leader. But let's"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "actually dig into how these three"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "resources are going to significantly"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "benefit the economic status of you, me,"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "our children, and our children's"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "children. First, we have to consider"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "critical mineral independence. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "something that presidents have been"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "working on all the way back to Obama,"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "trying to find a way to decouple the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "United States from a reliance on"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "critical minerals that actually come"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "from our worst geopolitical enemies,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "China, Russia, and Iran. Almost all rare"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "earth and critical minerals around the"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "world are refined primarily in China."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "China controls 40 to 60% of all global"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "critical earth minerals. That is an"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "incredible amount of control for one"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "communist country that stands"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "diametrically opposed to the values of"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the United States. Critical mineral"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "independence would not only mean the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "United States would have increased"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "national security because we'd be able"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "to build our own military and industrial"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "needs on our own at our own pace, but it"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "also means that we would be less reliant"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and less vulnerable to the manipulation"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "of those critical minerals by foreign"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "countries. The way that China tries to"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "manipulate critical minerals going to"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the United States is not just through"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "boycots and blockades. They also try to"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "manipulate the price, the quality, and"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the amount available on the marketplace."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "So, you can see how China has"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "asymmetrical control because it's the"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "source of refinement of critical earth"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "minerals. Just like the United States"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "wants to gain control in the oil"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "industry by being the source for"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "refinement of oil. Because when you"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "control the final product, you control"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "pricing, distribution, and trade. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "exactly what China has been abusing in"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "terms of critical minerals coming to the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "United States, which is not only a win"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "for you and me security-wise, but also a"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "win for us economically because of the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "second point that Donald Trump realizes."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Any product the US creates is a product"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "that will be sold in US dollars. So, as"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "the world tries to find a way to reduce"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "its dependency on the US dollar, the US"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "gains the opportunity to leverage back"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "some of that demand for US dollars by"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "creating more oil that's coming from"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Venezuela. So, we might purchase"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Venezuelan oil in Venezuelan currency,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "something that benefits the US dollar"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "because it's stronger than Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "currency. But when that oil comes across"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "to the United States and is refined into"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "a final product, now everything is sold"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "in US dollars. That means that more"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "foreign countries will need to purchase"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "US dollars in order to buy the US"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "resource. As they purchase more US"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "dollars, the value for your dollar and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "mine goes up. The opposite of inflation."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "We see an increase in the value of our"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "dollars. And you and I don't have to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "change anything. It's just a matter of"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "Donald Trump gaining access to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Venezuelan oil, refining that oil, and"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "selling that oil. It increases the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "overall GDP of the United States because"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "we are refining a natural resource and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "selling the refined final product."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "Thirdly, it makes it so that your US"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "dollar and mine actually buy more of"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "those resources at a lower price inside"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "our own country because you and I"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "already have US dollars in our bank"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "account, in our pocket, on our credit"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "card. So we actually get to buy more"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "with less dollars because the price is"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "going down for us as the US has more of"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "a role in everything related to oil."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "That means yes, your gas prices will go"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "down, but it also means that your"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "heating and your energy costs will go"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "down. It also means that the money you"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "have in the stock market will increase"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "because demand in the stock market will"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "grow with the energy sector. And it"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "means that anything that you use that's"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "derived from petroleum, whether that's"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "petroleum jelly or whether that's"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "plastics that you use to carry your"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "leftover food, all of it is going to"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "become that much more accessible. Plus,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "our dollar value will increase, which"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "will reduce inflation and get us back to"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "a place where the US dollar is not only"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "dominant in the whole world, but"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "definitely something that you and I feel"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "safer with here in our own country. So"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "you can understand how critical mineral"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "independence is important and you can"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "certainly understand how increasing the"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "value of the dollar is important. But"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "the third point about natural resources"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "in Venezuela is the one that's going to"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "absolutely transform our economy. And"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "that is tied to gold. Whoever controls"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Venezuelan gold will control gold over"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "the western hemisphere of the planet."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "And if you control half the gold on the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "planet, you can essentially"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "counterbalance any manipulation that"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "happens to gold everywhere else on the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "planet. Gold is the single precious"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "metal that is being used for national"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "reserves in all of the wealthiest"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "countries in the world. Gold is the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "number one precious metal being used to"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "safeguard against financial collapse not"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "only by national banks and centralized"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "banks but by government institutions and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "individual wealthy people all over the"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "world. The only way gold suffers is if"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "there's an abundance of gold on the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "market. Now that is something that our"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "competitors in China or Russia could"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "have manipulated in the past that would"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "have hurt the United States"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "significantly. But now that the United"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "States controls Venezuelan gold, we have"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "a natural hedge against any manipulation"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "that might come from our enemies. One of"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "the reasons you haven't seen anyone"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "attack gold yet is because gold is used"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "worldwide. Gold is a precious metal that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "nobody wants to manipulate. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "wants to see gold increase in value"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "because that is the precious metal that"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "all bank and national reserves are being"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "maintained in all around the globe"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "whether it's Russia, Canada, the UK or"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Switzerland. That means gold remains a"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "priority, especially for United States"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "national security and national wealth"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "building. Our own gold reserves are"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "something we take very seriously. And"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "having access to Venezuelan gold means"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "that we'll be able to control, manage,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "hedge, and increase American wealth"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "through the exploitation of Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "gold. And how are we going to exploit"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "that gold? We're only going to create"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "and mine enough gold that maintains a"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "very high per ounce price of gold"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "because as the price per ounce of gold"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "increases, so does the national wealth"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "of the United States. So, anybody out"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "there who's afraid that Venezuelan gold"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "is going to flood the market is missing"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "the most important point. Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "doesn't want to reduce the price per"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "ounce of gold. He wants to maintain and"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "increase the price per ounce of gold."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "He's essentially taking Venezuelan gold"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "and putting it on a shelf, understanding"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "that while it's not available to the"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "market, the overall price of gold and"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "value of gold continues to increase. And"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "if there's ever a point in the future of"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "the United States where the United"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "States wants more gold reserves, we can"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "literally mine and refine the gold"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "ourselves and use it to boost our own"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "national sovereign wealth, which also"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "boosts the wealth of every individual"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "who owns gold. This is one of the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "critical differences between currency"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "like the US dollar and precious metals"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "like gold. Currency is meant to be"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "manipulated. It's meant to inflate and"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "deflate. It's meant to be flexible. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "a tool for central banks so that they"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "can constantly help correct the economy."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Precious metals are not the same kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "tool. They're actually a tool that's"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "designed to preserve and protect wealth"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "against the changes in inflation and"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "deflation. That's why as you've seen the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "US dollar value go down, you've seen the"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "price per ounce of gold go up. That's"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "also why in times of economic"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "confidence, you see the price of gold"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "maintain or increase slowly. Gold"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "doesn't often decline. And the reason it"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "doesn't decline is because it's a safe"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "haven for wealth. That means wealthy"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "institutions, wealthy organizations,"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "wealthy individuals put their money,"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "their currency into gold because they"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "know that over time gold only gets more"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "valuable. One of the big reasons why"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "gold gets more valuable over time is"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "because countries themselves save"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "national wealth in the form of gold. So"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "if you're an individual, you want to"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "save your money, build your wealth the"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "same way the country that you live in"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "builds their wealth and saves their"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "money. Gold is a one forone match."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "There's a reason the United States"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "doesn't have a savings account where it"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "saves money in US dollars. A big part of"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "this is the fact that gold is a limited"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "physical resource, which makes it very"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "different from cryptocurrency or from"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "actual physical fiat currency. Fiat"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "currency can be printed."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Cryptocurrencies are constantly being"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "invented over and over again. But gold"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "is actually limited only to gold"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "deposits currently in existence all over"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the world. Some of those have been"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "identified, some of those have not. But"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "places like Venezuela that have the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "largest known deposit in Latin America"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "are in high demand because if you"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "control that gold, you essentially have"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "a giant savings account that you just"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "tapped into. If you've been keeping up"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "with the current economic crisis in the"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "United States, then you understand that"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "wealthy Americans are essentially"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "turning to two different wealthb"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "buildinging strategies. There's a crypto"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "strategy and a gold strategy. The crypto"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "strategy is essentially based in the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "high volatility of cryptocurrency."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Meaning, we know that cryptocurrency"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "will have very good days where it"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "increases 50, 100, 200%. But it will"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "also have very bad days where it crashes"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "50, 100, 200%. That volatility works if"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "you have a high tolerance for risk and"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "if you have an abundance of fiat"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "currency. So that's why very wealthy"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "individuals, very wealthy companies,"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "wealthy institutions are able to put"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "money into cryptocurrency and risk"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "losing it because they might lose 50%"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "one day but gain 75% the next day. The"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "average retail American doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "that kind of risk that they can take."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "They don't have that much fiat currency"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "that they can put in. They can't handle"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "losing 50% of their portfolio in a day."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Not only do you see the wealthy"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "investing in cryptocurrency, you also"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "see them investing in gold. In fact, you"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "see them using their wins from"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "cryptocurrency as their primary tool to"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "invest in gold because they understand"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "that over time gold will be stable and"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "increase in value. So, it's a much lower"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "threshold for risk, even if it is a much"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "higher dollar value per investment."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "That's why you can buy cryptocurrencies"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "for pennies, but you can't buy an ounce"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "of gold for anything less than $4,000"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "right now. So, while the wealthy"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "continue to use cryptocurrency to take"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "big risks and increase their wealth and"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "then use gold to protect their wealth,"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "the average everyday American doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "really want to get involved in crypto."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "It's too high risk. It's too volatile."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "And simply put, we don't have enough"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "money to take a big loss in"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "cryptocurrency. So, that leaves many"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Americans thinking their only option is"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "to save their money in cash. Cash is"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "something that we know can be"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "manipulated. Cash was intended to be"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "manipulated. So in fact what Americans"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "should be doing is taking their cash and"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "acting like the central bank, acting"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "like the federal government, acting like"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "systematically wealthy people. Americans"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "should be taking their cash and"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "converting it into gold because every"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "wealthy person, institution, and country"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "in the world is trying to increase the"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "value per ounce of gold. So if you put"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "your money into gold, you actually"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "increase your overall wealth. where if"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "you hold your money in cash, you run the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "risk of letting the market reduce the"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "value of your cash to correct the"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "economy overall. I'm not saying to put"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "all your money in gold. I'm not even"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "saying that you have to put your money"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "in gold. I'm just saying that when you"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "look at the math between cash, crypto,"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "and gold. Gold is the clear winner both"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "in terms of longevity and reliability."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "That's why national banks use it. That's"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "why central governments use it. That's"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "why the wealthy and wealthy institutions"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "use it. That's why you should use it,"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "too. So the question is not whether or"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "not to buy gold. The question becomes"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "where do you buy gold that's reputable?"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "And this is the problem with our current"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "marketplace. There are so many"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "fraudulent brokers out there. As gold"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "has increased in demand for the wealthy"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "and affluent. You have seen phony"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "brokers also increase trying to take"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "advantage of the wealthy and the"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "affluent buyer. As they've been"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "targeting the wealthy, however, they've"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "also been abusing the everyday person"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "because it makes it very difficult for"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "people to understand what gold is"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "reputable and what gold is not"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "reputable. You can Google this and"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "research this to death and all you'll do"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "is find yourself going in circles, never"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "really knowing who is real and who is"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "not. Which is why I want to encourage"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "you to look up the single gold broker"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "that my clients and I all use. And that"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "gold broker is called Genesis Gold"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Group. Genesis Gold Group has"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "international recognition and a global"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "reputation for being one of the best"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "gold brokers in the world. Genesis Gold"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Group has an A+ rating from the Better"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Business Bureau and 4.5 stars on Trust"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "Pilot. It's the go-to gold broker for"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "many wealthy Americans, including my"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "clients, because it's based in"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "conservative values and the Christian"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "faith. I trust Genesis Gold Groups. My"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "clients trust them and you have a chance"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "to learn from their best-in-class"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "knowledge and service if you visit"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "edsgold.com today or just click on the"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "top link in the description below. The"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "US is taking unprecedented action in"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "order to rebuild and save the US"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "economy. And even while the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "world decides whether to condemn or"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "celebrate the capture of Nicholas"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "Maduro, what you're seeing and I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "seeing is that Venezuela will be key to"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "the long-term survival of the US"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "economy. their gold, their critical"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "minerals, their oil will become the"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "foundation that benefits the United"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "States, not just for the next few"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "decades, but for the next few"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "generations. I want you to have the same"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "opportunities that our federal"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "government sees in Venezuela. And that"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "opportunity lies first and foremost in"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "gold. So visit edsgold.com, click on"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "that first link in the description"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "below, research Genesis Gold Group for"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "yourself, and learn how gold will not"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "only safeguard your immediate future,"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "but will protect your legacy for"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "multiple generations ahead."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "This would be a place where being sort"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "of ethnically ambiguous or being able to"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "blend into different like like I have a"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "friend and you can't tell if she's she"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "could be Italian, she could be Greek,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "she could be Eastern European, she could"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "be Russian, right? Like that would be an"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "advantage because you could like blend"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "in different places. Can you give us two"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "very different examples of places you've"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "had to blend in?"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Absolutely. So, a lot of my operations"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "were actually in East Asia. And the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "reason I was so effective in East Asia"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "is because they are incredibly racist"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "against anybody with brown skin in East"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Asia. So, if you have brown skin, you're"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "like less than you're less than the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "bottom of the social hierarchy. So, the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "last thing they would expect of a brown"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "person"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> is that they were smart, trained, or"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "trying to steal secrets. They're too"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "busy looking for all the tall 6 foot"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "tall like 6 foot five Captain America"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "white Americanl looking people. That's"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "your spy James Bond, right? So I"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "operated a lot in East Asia where nobody"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "knew that I was anything important. And"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "I operated quite a lot in Latin America"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "where I looked just like every other"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "brown guy in Latin America. Right."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Even though I don't speak Spanish uh"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "well or"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> I mean your name is Bamante. It's like a"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "fantastic last name. It is, but it's an"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Italian Spanish booante that I borrowed"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "from my wife."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> Okay, another silly question. Um, did"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "you have to have different um facial"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "hair"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "for disguises?"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> I did. I did. And usually it wasn't very"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "well-groomed. It was more like as nappy"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "and homeless as you could make it look."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "So, one of the things that I'm still"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "getting used to being on YouTube is"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "actually trying to make myself look like"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "I care about my face."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> Did you have to use prosthetic beards"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "and things or it was just your natural"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "beard? you would grow it out."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> So, we we do use prosthetics, this is"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "again, I'm going to geek out with you"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "for a second here, M. Um, the way that"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "we use disguise, we call it costume like"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "we talked about, but the way that we use"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "disguise in the field, there's three"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "different levels. Um, the most advanced"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "level is also the most dangerous level"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "because it's the least predictable"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "level, and that's when we use"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "prosthetics."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "So, I mean, nobody thinks about this,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "but if you don't use the right kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "adhesive"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "in the cold, it'll fall off. In the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "heat, it'll curl. Right. If you don't"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "use the right kind of matching skin um"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "prosthetic,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> it'll look fake. You'll blow your cover"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> right away. Exactly. Your nose will be"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "like half falling off of your face. So"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "what we try to do as much as possible is"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "is not change ourselves with prosthetics"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "and then if we have to use prosthetics"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "then we use prosthetics at great"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "distance from the people who are trying"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "to observe us. So for me they would"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "rather dye my beard or shape my beard or"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "even like let me grow a beard you know"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "on vacation for 6 months and then bring"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "it back and get it all nasty and dirty"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "and then let me go out in the field."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "That's easier than shaving me and trying"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "to put me in straight a straight car a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "straightaired beard."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Have you ever had to be costumed as a"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "woman?"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> No. Not not something I had to do"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "operationally, but I have 100% worn"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "female costumes to see if I could push"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "the skills, my own skills in costume"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "design."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> And you could not?"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> No. It's It's hard to pull off looking"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "like a girl when you're this ugly."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "I think you're ugly. No, but I was"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "curious because in some places you can"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "cover your face as a woman. Like I've"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "seen that in the movies. Who hasn't seen"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "that in the movies or a cartoon?"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> It's true. It's true. And that's uh you"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "know when you're talking about a full"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "cover like a like when people wear a a"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "burka or some sort of hijab."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> When you're talking about that we that's"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "that is a different level of disguise."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "We don't consider that prosthetics,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> We consider that still level one"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "disguise. A very basic disguise because"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "it's just fabric."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> I mean you anybody could do that."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> Correct. Well, the eyes the eyes are the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "giveaway. And if anybody's ever seen"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> eyes are the window to the soul."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> If any if anybody's ever seen an an Arab"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "woman in full garb, like she puts a"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "great deal of effort into her eyes"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "usually."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> Here's another question which is not as"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "silly. Um, and you don't have to answer,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "but I'm going to ask."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Have you killed people?"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> Not intimately."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "And yes, we have different levels of"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "killing. I'm sure you're not surprised"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "to hear that, M. We have intimate"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "killing and we have non-intimate"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "killing. Intimate killing is when you"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "deliver the death blow with your hand."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Non-intimate killing is when you"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "participate in the demise of a target,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "the neutralizing of a target by"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "executing your portion of the job."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> So the government sends you to kill"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> The government sends all of us in a way"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "to kill people. We just have different"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "It's like an assembly line. Nobody does"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "it all. We just some people put on the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "bolt and some people put on the tire."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> And I didn't mean to make this a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "personal attack on you. I'm saying that"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "like when we think about"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> if you haven't discovered your naturalb"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "born spy skills, then somebody else may"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "be using theirs against you. 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I want you to"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "discover your hidden spy skill and use"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "it before someone else uses theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "against you. when I think about let's"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "say the army you know and I have great"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "respect for people who you know who"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "serve our country um and it is a method"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "of our government sending often"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "you know poor kids who they've promised"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "a college education you know sending"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "people to to do the the dirty work of a"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "government that also isn't always"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "transparent about why they're sending us"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Do you see your role as kind of an"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "extension of that bureaucratic"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "killing machine"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> dishonesty? Yes, absolutely. And and no,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "you don't have I I love this"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "conversation right now because that is a"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "very real um element that we have to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "come to terms with after our first or"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "second field tour. After you've been in"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "the field for about two years, you start"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "to see through the smoke screen and you"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "start to see what's really happening,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "right? And what's really happening is"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "you were promised an opportunity and"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "then you were brought into this very"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "bureaucratic organization where you"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "signed a lot of promises that are"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "legally binding and now all of the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "sudden you have to go, you know, fight"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "for a cause that you don't believe in."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "You have to go participate in a cover up"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "that you know is not being disclosed to"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "the American people because you've been"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "told that to disclose it to the American"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "people would also mean disclosing it to"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "your adversaries. So, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "keep it secret from everybody. Right?"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "It's a very difficult world to live in."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "But again, we are psychologically"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "predisposed to understanding that there"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "are secrets that need to be kept and"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "there are secrets that need to be"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "shared. So it's it's not an easy"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "lifestyle. That's why many people who"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "have made it 15 20 years in the agency,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "they come out psychologically flawed for"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the rest of their life. They they can't"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "recover, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> I mean, you you would we now have a"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "larger understanding of what happens to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "soldiers. And I think that this is true"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "even if you feel that it is a just"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "cause. You know, I I want to set aside"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the notion of like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "participating in murder, assassination,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "what you call it, non-intimate killing,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "you know, that's going to do something."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Seeing the destruction of war, that's"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "going to do something to you and it's"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "going to change you and it causes"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "trauma. But I I think like kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "setting those things aside for the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "moment and kind of talking the way we're"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "talking right now, it's very interesting"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "because you know what is the framework"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "for your or anyone's personal comfort in"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "being hired by a government to do things"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "that you may not agree with. Where is"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "that line?"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> And what's amazing is you you don't ever"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "think of that when you are a good fit"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "for the job. You don't think about that"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "line on day one. You stumble into that"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "line later on and then you realize, oh"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": " like maybe I bit off more than I"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "can chew. And to CIA's credit, they're"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "familiar with this buyer's remorse. So"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "there's there's a a very a very strong"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "mental health component at CIA. They've"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "got staff psychologists. They've got,"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "you know, staff therapists. They've got"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "staff, uh, PT, personal trainers, and"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "exercise scientists who are all there to"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "help you develop healthy coping"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "mechanisms to deal with what you do"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "every day. And when the time comes that"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "you can no longer cope in a healthy way,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "they just take you off the line and then"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "they put you in administrative jobs"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "where you can't do any damage and then"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "they treat you with, you know, whatever"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "they can treat you with and whatever you"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "choose to treat yourself with, which is"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "why we see such a high rate of drug use"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "and alcoholism, uh, adultery, divorce,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "because lives just fall apart when when"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "people stay in service that long. Are"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "those mental health providers not"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "incentivized to keep you going and to"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "sort of push the limits of your coping"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "mechanisms?"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> That's exactly what they're incentivized"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "to do. And that's how they climb up"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "their professional ladder by finding new"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "treatments, new combinations, new"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "practices that take a field officer from"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "six years of field utility to eight"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "years of field utility. They take them"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "from one or two war zone tours to three"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "or five war zone tours. Right? If you"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "can prolong the utility of an of a a"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "field operator, you've essentially"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "increased the productivity of the entire"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "workforce. And it's very it's very"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "clinical, very bureaucratic, and very"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "mechanical in that way."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> And I don't want to comment on at all on"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the role of this organization or the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "people in it. But in a way, you're"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "putting someone into a pressure cooker"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "that you know eventually they're going"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "to crack. And it's like how do I keep"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "them there as long as possible"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "functioning to do the job as well as I"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "can knowing that I'm just waiting to"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "monitoring them to say this eventually"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "is going to be too much. They're going"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "to not be capable of doing it anymore"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "and I'm just waiting for that. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "kind of that's an intense"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> You just described a lot of people's"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "relationship with God, right? that God"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "sets us up and like I know this is not"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "going to go well on this planet, right?"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "But let's just kind of like see what"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "happens. I mean, this is sort of a"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "microcosm, if you can call it that. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "a macrocosmic microcosm of kind of our"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "existence. Meaning, like I've seen that"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Twilight Zone episode, right? Where it's"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "like you're you wake up and no one else"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "is there and it's just like you're in"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "this planet of no one. It's like what am"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "I doing here? What's my purpose? what am"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "I supposed to do? Like guess what?"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "That's your lot in life. I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "mean to get all existential, but it's"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "kind of interesting."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> Well, well, it's also it's to a you're"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "you're right, Jonathan. And I think"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "what's important is going back to the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "macrocosmic microcosm that M just talked"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "about. What you see at CIA, what you"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "just laid out at CIA is exactly what"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "happens in the military. Why are there"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "VA benefits? Why is there a veteran"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "status, right? Why are we seeing"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "constant support for homeless veterans"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "and suicidal veterans, etc. Because the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "military has learned over hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "years, and they learned it from the"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "British before them, right? That you're"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "putting people into a pressure cooker,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "maximizing their utility, hoping they"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "don't die in combat before they have an"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "ROI on their training costs. And then at"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the same time you need a certain number"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "of people to quit instead of retire"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "because only the people who retire are"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "going to get continuing benefits for the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "rest of their life. It's a str one of"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "the things that CIA taught me that I"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that I make a mantra right you know"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "every day is that you know the United"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "States runs like a business. Everything"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "runs like a business. It's a costbenefit"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "analysis. It's a return on investment"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "versus diminishing returns. That's how"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "the world really, really works. And CIA"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "doesn't work any different than that."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> I want to get into the pulling back the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "curtain because through your time at"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "CIA, you've seen how the US operates,"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "how the world operates from your unique"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "vantage point. And I want to get into"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "just wrapping up what we were talking"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "about in terms of your fieldwork. How"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "much of fieldwork is neutralizing"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "targets versus collecting information"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": ">> versus just hanging out not looking like"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "yourself and seeing what happens?"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> And when you're hanging out not looking"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "like yourself, usually you're collecting"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "information. So it's it's about a I"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "would say honestly it's like 98%"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "collecting, 2% neutralizing because once"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "you neutralize a target, they're no"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "longer a viable source of information."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "So you need to string that target along"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "as long as possible. Maximize everything"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "you can get from them. And only when the"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "calculation becomes that they are more"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "of a risk than a return would you"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "consider neutralizing them."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> Do you have to have sex with them?"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> You can have sex with them. It's an"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "option but there's a lot of paperwork"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "involved. And and"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": ">> is that the main deterrent? Is the"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "paperwork"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": ">> that is the main deterrent to be honest."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "That is the main deterrent. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> just like dating me. Second to that, in"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "the United States, we're really funny"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "about sex. Sex in the United States"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "oftentimes means connection,"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "relationship, obligation, blah blah blah"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "blah blah. Everywhere else in the world,"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "sex is just sex. So, if you go to bed"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "with a Russian, chances are they're"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "going to be way more in a position of"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "power over you than you are over them"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "the next morning."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> Wait, wait, sorry, just Russians."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Oh, no. I mean, it goes on. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Russians are just the the primary"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "villain in all the movies, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": ">> Oh, got it. Like like I'm thinking James"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Bond, right? Like"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> correct."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}]

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He's very"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "much like a Netanyahu to the Chinese."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "There are many people who celebrate him"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "as a hero, not necessarily as any kind"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "of villain."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> So your allergic reaction is a valid"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "reaction as a westerner, but as an"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "eastern we have to try to look at the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "situation through their eyes. under"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Xiinping in the last 10 years their"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "country has modernized increased their"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "GDP increased their global positioning"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "increased the their um reduced their"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "reliance on manual fabrication and"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "manufacturing increased their reliance"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "on high technology which increases their"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "overall standing not only as a as a"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "center of excellence in a modern first"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "world country but also as a global"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "alternative to [snorts] the United"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "States. That's what she's goal is. The"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "reason he's turning back to Mauist"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "tendencies isn't because he believes"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "that communism is the way of the future."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "It's because he understands that"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "consolidated power means he can move"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "faster. Whereas"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> I think he also looked at Russia and was"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "like, \"We're not going to let that"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "happen here.\""}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> And so these capitalists like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "useful, but they get a bit uppety.\" But"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "I know how to handle that"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> possibly. But the the the point is what"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "what all of the world authoritarians are"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "trying to do right now, whether it's"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Putin or whether it's Netanyahu. I do"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "classify him as authoritarian,"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> right? Again, Israel is different than"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Jews."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Israel knows that Netanyahu is an"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "authoritarian. You know, I'm talking to"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "you, Israel."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Um, but either way, Xiinping understands"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "that he needs to bypass the process to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "move fast enough. When you look at their"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "when you look at I mean, the most"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "obvious thing to look at is their is"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "their fighter aircraft. If you compare"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Chinese fighter aircraft to American and"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Russian fighter aircraft, there's only"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "like seven of them that are in"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "production right now. Every one of their"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "aircraft is almost a carbon copy of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "either an American model or a Russian"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "model. It's crystal clear that they're"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "fabricating based off of stolen stolen"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "plans."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> They even number them the same way."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Right? We have an F-35. They have a J35."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Why is it called J35? Because the J"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "stands for gin, which is the word"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "fighter in Chinese. So it's literally"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the F-35, right? They they have they've"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "modeled this all the way down to the to"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "the Sue 10. So they've got this they"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "they copy and then they refabricate on"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "their own. And that largely took off in"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "2017. In 2017, you started to see a huge"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "reduction in Chinese importing of"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "technology, specifically technology that"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "was related to their military"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "infrastructure. And it was because they"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "had finally grown their own indigenous"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "capability to create high performance"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "weapons, high performance engines, high"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "performance avionics, high performance,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "you name it, technology."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> And that started to become their new"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "mantra. China knows that the United"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "States gained global dominance because"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "we stopped creating corn and soybeans"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "and we started creating"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "financial tools and we started creating"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "software and we started creating weapons"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and we started creating digital"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "healthcare devices, storage devices,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "computers, software, the cloud, etc. So"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "that's what China's been focusing on."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Telecom technology, AI, robotics,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "they've been focusing on that the whole"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "time that we were focusing on a war on"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "terror. So from 2001 when we got"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "distracted by a global war on terror,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "they started focusing in on how can we"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "just suck the west dry of technological"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "information and use this as an"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "opportunity to build our future economy."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "That's all under shei's guidance. So the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "average Chinese person sees the rise of"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "their middle class. The average Chinese"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "person sees more money, more power, more"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "influence, more global standing. They"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "can reach more parts of the world. The"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "world welcomes the Chinese in a way it"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "never did before. outside of the United"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "States. Do they still have a real estate"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "crisis? Yes. Do they still have an aging"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "population? Yes. But so does South"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Korea. So does Japan. So do lots of"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "pro-Western Asian countries. So does the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "United States. So is it really such a"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "big deal? Like we we try to keep a"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "scorecard. You can't keep a scorecard"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "between East and West. That you couldn't"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "imagine two more different cultures than"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "American culture and Chinese culture."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Thanks for letting me. I give you these"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "longass answers today. I apologize. Why?"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> Because it seems [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> what whatever is educational. I want to"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "learn more. So, I'll take it. If I think"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "you're uh going too hard in a tangent,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "well, first, yes, we could edit it, but"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "I would just interrupt you. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Um, okay. So, that all makes sense. Is"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "China going to take Taiwan? [snorts] I"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "still believe that China is is on track"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "to take Taiwan."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> Do we have a timeline? We we all think"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "that it's going to we all assume it's"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "some kind of military takeover. My"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "original estimate was that China would"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "make aggressive moves on Taiwan before"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the 2024 election."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "In hindsight, you can actually see that"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "I I estimated correctly. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "launch an amphibious assault of Taiwan."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Instead, what they did is they launched"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "an espionage campaign that shaped the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "election of the prime minister of"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Taiwan. 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I want you to"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "discover your hidden spy skill and use"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "it before someone else uses theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "against you. in October of 23, just"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "before the election in the United States"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "and just before Donald Trump took over"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "in 24. So you can see right now Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "has a split government. The prime"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "minister is pro-independence,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "but the parliament is predominantly"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "majorly pro-China reunification."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> Wow. I didn't realize there was a"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "movement inside of Taiwan."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely. The KMT is a ma the KMT"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "which was interestingly the original"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "group that left the mainland um under"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Chiang Kaishek to take refuge in Taiwan."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "They were the original people who"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "separated from China and now they are"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the ones that want to reunify back with"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the homeland. So it's a very interesting"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "turn in politics, very similar to how"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "our"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> it feels like to me if the southern"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "states and the northern states had split"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "and all of a sudden you know whatever"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "years later the south is like actually"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "we want to reunify with the northern"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "states like it feels like they would"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "still be bitter rivals."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": ">> Right. Exactly. And that's what's so"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "interesting that they're not. The KMT is"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "pro-reunification,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "whereas there's the real movement on"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Taiwan has been a movement of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "independence. That's been what's really"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "been interesting about the growth of"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Taiwan. It never intended to be a an"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "independent country. It dep it intended"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "to reunify and kind of take back over"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "from Maadong. Chiang Kaishek was backed"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "by the United States when he took refuge"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "on Taiwan. They all expected they would"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "come back and take the country again. It"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "just never happened. So that's changed"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "over time to now just be a reunification"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "party in general and and they own they"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "control the majority of the parliament"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "on Taiwan. So you you have a split"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "government in Taiwan very much like you"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "have a split government here in the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "United States."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> So we're already seeing China"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> heavily invest in espionage information"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "warfare. Another fantastic search term"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "for anybody who wants to look this up"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "themselves is just Chinese espionage on"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Taiwan, Chinese information warfare,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Chinese covert influence on Taiwan."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "You'll see it. It's there. It's just not"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "making the front page of any newspapers,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "right? So, they're making those moves"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "now. I believe China will take Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "the same way they took Hong Kong in"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "2019. They did it administratively."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "They changed laws. They created"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "administrative bridges that put Hong"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Kong under Chinese Beijing control. And"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "then they just wrote laws and signed"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "those laws into law so that when they"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "moved into Hong Kong physically, anybody"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "who tried to resist was breaking the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "law. And that gave them the reign that"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "they needed to get violent and and"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "arrest people. And we all forgot about"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "that because it happened at the same"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "time as co."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> But in 2019, China went into Hong Kong"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "in a very violent, very abrupt, very big"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "way. And ever since then, Hong Kong has"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "been part of China. That's the mo for"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "what they'll do in Taiwan. timeline."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "That's the difficult part. She has"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "promised to reunify with Taiwan by I"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "believe it was 2027. I believe he made"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "that public promise as part of his"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "25-year plan. Um but he's and he has"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "worked very hard to meet his promises."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "He had a promise in 2024 to be"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "economically or to be uh uh"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "technologically dominant in the world."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "And I think Chinese people would agree"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "he has met that goal. And now his next"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "big promise is reunification with"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Taiwan. So between now and then, we"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "should probably expect some more big"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "moves from China."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> Wowza, how do you think that'll play out"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "for the US? What will our reaction be?"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> I think we're going to sit on our thumbs"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> because it'll be administrative that's"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "not violent"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "part of it."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> We Why put American troops in harm's"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "way? Why stand in the way of this rice"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "war that we're already in the middle of,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "right? If we try to fight for Taiwan,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "then China is just going to cut off our"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "access to other things that we need."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "China cut off our access to to rare"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "earth minerals and we changed our almost"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "overnight we changed our narrative. They"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "know they have they have levers that"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "they can pull for us because we're"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "dependent on them. So the question will"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "become is Taiwan worth us"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "breaking our dependence and our reliance"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "on China? And what would that mean for"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the United States to not have what"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "China's giving us, not have uh"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "disposable goods, not have cloths and"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "fabrics, not have shoes, not I mean what"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "would that actually look like? We don't"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "even have the manufacturing capability"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "here to do it. That's why we're making"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "friends with India, hoping that India"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "will be there for us when we cut ties"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "with China. But China's also making"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "inroads with India to make sure that"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "India sides with them when they cut ties"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "when they cut ties with us. So India is"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "in the best geopolitical position of any"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "country out there right now having the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the two largest economics economic"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "superpowers kind of vying for its"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "affection"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> but uh I don't I believe that when China"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "makes its move on Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "will put up our vote in the UN that it's"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that it's uh illegal and it's not"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "supposed to happen and we should and you"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "should back out just like we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "with Ukraine and Russia right now all"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "the all the UN members who are like oh"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "we vote against this is a bad idea"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "you're breaking the law but they're not"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "doing anything else. That's how it's"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "going to work."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> What about though um the T TSMC TMS the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "chips like how do we get around that?"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> So Biden launched the chip act when he"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "was still in office here and a part of"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "that chip act was not only creating an"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "avenue for TSMC to start building"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "manufacturing base here on the United"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "States or here in the United States but"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "also creating an indigenous capability"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "for the United States to create their"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "own high performance chips. TSMC"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "doesn't have IP over the chips that they"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "create. Their chips that they create are"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "ours. Yes. But like we can't yet"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "manufacture."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> And as far as I know, the person that's"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "the closest is Elon with the new chip,"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "but they're making a chip specifically"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "for XAI. Either XAI or Tesla. I can't"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "remember which."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> Uh but that's with TMSC. TSMC. I cannot"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "ever remember those four letters. I"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "think it's TS TSMC, but somebody could"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "fact check us."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> Yes. Um, so if China were to take Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "administratively or otherwise and then"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "say you can no longer interface with"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "them since we cut them off for so long"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "from those chips, I can't imagine"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "they're going to smile on that. And that"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "would be a very"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "um like that's a kill shot."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> That's because you're assuming that"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "China would cut them off."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> That's why the United States doesn't"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "want a hot conflict on Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> because if get that. But like if I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "China, listen, uh I've read enough about"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "China to prognosticate. So here's how I"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "think this is going to play out."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Uh I'm Xiinping. Yeah. In 2027, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "going to cut off your access to chips"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "because there are things that I need to"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "do to make sure that I can squeeze you"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "to death. And so I'm going to make a"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "couple moves. Uh and then in whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "2033, I'm going to start suddenly now"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "you can't get access to the chips that"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "you need. And so if the US does not get"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "very aggressive about"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "decoupling is always a risky word"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "because people really start going crazy."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "But uh if we aren't able to make"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "ourselves technologically independent,"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "we are going to be in a very weakened"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "position. People need to only look to"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "the communications that Xi has done when"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "it's aimed at a Chinese audience where"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "he's like, \"Yeah, we're going to start"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "being dismissive of the US on an"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "international stage.\" Like that was a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "very conscious move. Uh, and so this is"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "how Thusidity's trap goes off where the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "US is like, \"Okay, we're not going to do"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "anything in Taiwan because we don't have"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "the plausible deniability that we do"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "need.\" But all of a sudden, uh, ooh,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "sorry, did we sink a Chinese ship going"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "through the Caribbean? Our bad. Like, we"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "totally thought that was a Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "drug boat. So, it'll be it'll be things"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "like that that will just keep like"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "escalating the tension. Uh, China is"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "China believes that they have a mandate"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "from heaven to run the world. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "they can't have an uppidity declining"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "power like America stand in the way of"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "that. So, I mean, it's like 12 [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "out of 16 times when a rising superpower"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "has collided with a declining"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "superpower, it has ended up in hot"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "conflict."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> So, maybe we're in the four out of 16,"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "but the odds aren't with us."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> Correct. I I am on the same page as you"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "are and it's just a matter of when and"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "how those chips start to fall because"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "China outmaneuvered us for about 12"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "years by by building a rival or building"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "the the beginnings of a rival"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "technological economy. And in creating"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "that rival, it gave the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "world an option. Do you buy from the"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "United States or do you buy from China?"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "You all need this technology. You all"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "need cell phones. You all need laptops."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "You all need um MRI machines. You all"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "need, you know, pacemakers. You all need"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "it. So, who are you going to buy it"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "from? The United States at the same"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "premium that they've always charged"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "because they've been the global"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "monopoly. Or are you going to buy it"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "from us, our Chinese alternative, which"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "might be less effective, might be less"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "good, might just be a copy of them, but"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "it comes at a much reduced price. more"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "and more countries of the world are"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "buying Chinese, they're buying Chinese"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "alternatives, which is not only"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "diminishing our economy. It's also"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "diminishing the premium that we put on"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "our own materials. And the only solution"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that we've been able to come up with so"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "far is to start tariffing the rest of"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "the world and negotiating if you stop"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "buying Chinese and you start buying"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "American, we'll reduce your tariffs."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "That was the whole tariff war that that"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "that Trump put in motion that nobody"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "seemed to understand at the moment. And"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "hopefully they understand that now. He"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "wasn't trying to like increase tariffs"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "to make money from Europe. He was trying"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "to to create an artificial negotiating"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "point to get Europe to concede to United"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "States technology rather than Chinese"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "technology. Especially when the majority"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "of the cars, the electric cars in"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Germany are Chinese. The electric cars"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "in Spain are Chinese. The electric car"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "in France are Chinese. They're not"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "American electric cars. So you see all"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "of this playing out. I agree with you. A"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "hot conflict is the most likely"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "conflict, traditionally speaking."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "China knows that too. And both countries"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "know that as soon as a hot conflict"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "erupts, as as soon as there is"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "interstate war, everybody loses. They"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "both lose people, they lose reputation,"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "they lose technology, they lose growth"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "opportunity, they lose economic"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "benefits. Like they lose because that's"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "what history has shown us. So, how long"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "can they can they um kind of keep this"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "rice war in perpetuity"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "and in the hopes that the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "melts down on its own or what we're"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "talking about here, China's going to"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "melt down on its own? They're hoping for"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "an internal meltdown without ever having"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "to resort to hot conflict."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": ">> Talk to me about America's meltdown."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "What do you think the likelihood is?"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> I mean, when you when you put it in"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "probability is econ I'm only talking"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "about an economic meltdown. I believe"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "that all of our woes are tied to our"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "economy."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> You and me both."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": ">> Um, and I don't see us taking any steps"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "that are going to resolve our economy"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "right now. So, my my estimate is that 10"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "to 15 years is kind of 10 to 15 years is"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "our window to fix our economy, but I"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "don't think anyone's going to fix it."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "So, it's really after the 15-year mark"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "that we're going to be either in a hurt"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "locker where we have declined too much"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "to fix ourselves or we're actually on"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "the fringe of social meltdown or"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "political meltdown. So, but I do believe"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "we have about 15 years to figure it out."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "The question is, are we willing to put"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "ourselves in a a great depression that"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "we start for ourselves in order to fix"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "our own financial problems? And that's"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "really the only solution that we have"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "because just like you were saying"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "earlier, all the economic incentives for"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "a government are inflationary. Create"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "more currency, increase the value of"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "assets artificially, make the wealthy"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "who own the assets artificially"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "wealthier using more dollars that"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "actually value at less per dollar. And"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "that's how you keep everybody appeased."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "and you squeeze the b the the bottom"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "class and the middle class gets squeezed"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "because they have they have no way of"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "investing in assets, but the overall"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "wealth remains predominantly high."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": ">> Do you ever watch Dexter?"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> No, my wife does. And so I've seen like"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "little snippets of it and there was a"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "spoiler alert. Uh there was a very"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "interesting scene where a serial killer,"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "not Dexter, has a woman on a ledge and"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "he's like, \"You have to jump.\" And she's"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "like, \"Can you please push me?\""}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:36", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> And he goes, \"That's not how this"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "works.\" And she's like, \"But I don't"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "know if I can.\" And he goes, \"Well, I"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "bet if I go get your kids and start"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "throwing them off sooner or later,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "you're going to jump.\""}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": ">> And that's the position that the"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "American economy is in right now. We are"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "going to fall."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "If we jump, we can actually fix things."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "If we wait to be pushed, then it's too"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "late. And we really can't get we can't"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "make ourselves jump. It's so wild and"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "it's been I mean I've talked about it"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "many times exactly what you do. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "called a beautiful deleveraging which is"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "a terrible word for everyone is going to"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "suffer but we'll try to make sure"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "everybody suffers"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> roughly on par so that nobody feels"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "singled out. Um but we're all going to"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "suffer. But on the other side of this"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "like we can get back to like growth and"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "being the America that we used to be."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "people just can't do it. It's It's the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "same way I feel when people are like,"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "\"Americans won't pick strawberries or"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "whatever.\" I'm like, \"Well, if there's"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "no other option, they'll pick the"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "out of those strawberries.\""}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": ">> The problem is right now they can get"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "government subsidies. And the really bad"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "news is as you subsidize them, you"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "are pushing us off the cliff. And so,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "sure they they fall a little bit later,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "but they fall a lot harder. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": ">> So, there's a lot more blood splattered"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "on the ground. It's just it it's one of"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "those where getting people to pay"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "attention long enough to actually"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "understand the thing that you just"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "explained um is impossible, I'm finding."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "And so, it's terrifying"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": ">> when I because I I try to educate my"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "company um on where where our economy is"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "going because I want I want the people"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "that work for my company to have the"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "most success possible. And I understand"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "that just by virtue of the fact that"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "they work for my company and don't own"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "my company, that already puts them at a"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "disadvantage. So I try to get them to"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "understand how this works. And I"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "recently had a conversation with a few"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "of the folks that are my full-time"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "staff. And this seems to connect with"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "them, right? We have to hire a new"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "person just because of the growth of the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "company. We have to hire a new person."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "So, as we were evaluating how much we"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "were willing to pay and who we were"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "going to find and what our"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "qualifications were, my people"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "themselves landed on the conclusion"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "like, \"Oh, we're in a down economy right"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "now. Everybody's looking for work. So,"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "we'll be able to get a very good person"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "at a very low price. They understood"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "economics enough to understand that they"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "have negotiating power. We have the job."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": ">> There's lots of people out there looking"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "for the job, right? So, we don't have to"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "pay the person what they're worth. We"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "just have to pay them what the market is"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "worth. And the market right now is down."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "So, we can get a $90,000 a year person"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "for $75,000 a year. And they understood"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "that. And I was like, I was super proud"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "of them. I was like, \"Yes, you get it."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "That is with everything else in our"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "economy right now, too, right?"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "Everything is desperate. Everything is"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "on the decline.\" So, so not only are you"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "are you is a welleducated,"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "skilled, hardworking professional, not"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "only are they worth less in terms of"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "dollars right now, but the dollars that"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "you will be paying them will actually be"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "worth less every year moving forward"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "that you continue to pay them. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "going to we're going to pay somebody"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "$75,000 a year who's worth $90,000 a"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "year. And then next year when we pay"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "them the same salary, we're actually"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "paying them less because the dollar is"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "going to decrease in value. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": ">> And project that over three or five"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "years. And then it started to really"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "connect with the people in my company."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "They're like, \"Oh shit.\""}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": ">> They connected it to their own salary."}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "And they're like, \"That means that the"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "money I'm making right now is going to"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "be the same next year, but worth less.\""}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": ">> It's going to buy less car. It's going"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "to buy less milk. It's going to buy less"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "eggs. And then I was like, \"Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "why I want to encourage you to learn"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "about how to invest. how to invest in"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "the market, how to invest in currency,"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "how to invest in anything. I had a"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "another wealthy client who was like,"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "\"All you have to do is throw a dart at"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "the NASDAQ and wherever it lands, you're"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "more likely to have success there than"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "if you keep your money in"}]

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Uh, and that's the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "word I'm going to key in on here because"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "what we're all afraid of is being"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "controlled. Then CIA has a saying, if"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "you're not under control, if you're not"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "if you're not in control, then you're"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "under control."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Right? So CIA teaches us if you're not"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "in control, then you're under control."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "The emphasis in our saying is the first"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "term. You have to be in [music] control."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Well, what can you be in control of? You"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "can really only be in control of those"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "things that you can control. your"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "actions, your thoughts, what you say,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "where you say it, where you go, what"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "you're wearing. Those are the things"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that you can truly be in control of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "when you are trying to control another"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "person is significantly harder. You can"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "suggest, you can encourage, you can"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "motivate, you can [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "uh manipulate, you can try to coersse,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "you can do all sorts of things to try to"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "control another person, but at the end"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "of the day, another person isn't out of"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "your control. But that doesn't mean that"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "they're in control of themselves."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "So when we talk about a deep state, what"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "people are afraid of in a deep state,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "they're mislabeling. They think they're"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "being controlled. They're not being"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "controlled. People can buy whatever"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "whatever milk they want to buy. They can"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "buy whatever bread they want to buy."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "They can buy whatever candies they want"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "to buy. They can choose when they shop."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "They can choose what grocery store they"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "they stop they shop at."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "They don't realize the government's not"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "trying to control them. It's trying to"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "direct them. direct their activities. We"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "don't care what milk you buy, but we"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "want you to buy milk. We don't care what"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "bread you buy, but we want you to buy"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "bread. We don't care what grocery store"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "you shop at, but we want you shopping at"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "major grocery stores."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Right? That's how the government thinks."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "How do we direct the masses? Because we"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "want to funnel them in a productive"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "direction that benefits the the national"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "economy. We want to maximize GDP so that"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "we can take the maximum chunk out of GDP"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "to invest in military, surveillance,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "government, etc. So we need them to go"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "in a productive direction that benefits"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "us. But we need to give them enough"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "freedom in that lane that they decide"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "whether they buy sprouted Ezekiel bread"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "or whether they buy Wonderbread that's"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "heavily bleached. Think of like a"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "highway that's got six lanes. You can"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "choose what lane you're in. You can"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "choose the speed, when you switch lanes,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "what car you drive, but you're only"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "going in one direction."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> So, let me ask you this. You brought up"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "something very interesting. As a CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "operative, how do you make sure that"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "you're in control right off the bat?"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "What is your motus operande in that?"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> When you're with a person, you're always"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "trying to do the same thing that the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "government does with the mass. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "always trying to direct their behavior."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "You know that you can't really control"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "them. I can I can want you to drink a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "cup of coffee, but I can't force you to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "drink a cup of coffee. I can't control"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "that you drink what I want you to drink."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "[music] So instead, I have to use tools"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "that help to direct that activity. We"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "[music] use a lot of what's known as"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "assessment tools. Assessment tools are"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "tools that give you verbal and"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "non-verbal feedback in the moment so"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that you can start to understand the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "[music] person's thoughts, the person's"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "feelings, the person's behaviors,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "values, patterns, ideas. And as you"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "learn about what that person cares"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "about, you try to reflect it back to"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "them. Something called mirroring. So you"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "talk about your faith, I'll talk about"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "my faith. Uh if I see you wearing all"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "black like I see you today, the next"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "time that we would meet together, I"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "wouldn't be wearing white, right? I'd be"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "wearing nicer shoes cuz clearly shoes"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "matter to you. You've got a ton of very"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "specific fashion here, right? With the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "with the metals that are crossing over"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "each other and the low cut socks. like"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "there's a there is an intentionality to"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the way that you're dressed."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> So if I want to mirror you, I need to"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "show more intentionality in the way that"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "I dress."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> And that's how we go about building this"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "assessment and building this"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "subconscious"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "trust. And then after we have that"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "subconscious trust, we can become more"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "direct in how we're trying to direct"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "you. It it would be kind of rash for me"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "to just order you a a cappuccino right"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "now. I don't know if you even drink"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "coffee, but if we have a second or third"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "meeting together, it's fair enough for"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "me to say, \"Hey, do you drink"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "cappuccino? Cuz there's a great one here"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "I'd love to order for you.\""}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> And now I'm that much closer to getting"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "you to do what I want you to do. [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Replace cappuccino with, \"Tell me about"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "your bank accounts. Tell me about your"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "boss. Tell me about a new project that"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "you're working on.\" Right? How exactly"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "do you leave North Korea since most"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "people can't leave North Korea? It it"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "gets us in the direction of where I need"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "to go."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> If you haven't discovered your naturalb"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "born spy skills, then somebody else may"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "be using theirs against you. CIA teaches"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "us there are only three types of people."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Those who manipulate, those who"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "motivate, and those who are being"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "controlled by one of the other two. I"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "built a threeinut CIA style quiz"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "designed to help you unlock your secret"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "psychological advantage and identify"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "your biggest blind spot. This quiz will"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "help you weaponize your natural gift and"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "use it to get ahead of 99% of people in"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "power, money, and purpose. [music] Click"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "on the first link in the description"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "below or scan the QR code on your screen"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "right now to take the test. I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "to discover your hidden spy skill and"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "use it before someone else uses theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "against you."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> But it's not based on control, it's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "based on direction."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> So, is it kind of uh manipulation in a"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "way? Manipulation is a very fair word to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "use. Uh you'll I I do a lot of uh using"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "CIA terminology because CIA ter it gives"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "you such great insight into CIA to"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "understand how they choose their words."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Mhm. Manipulation is a word that many"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "people use and it's a nefarious word. It"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "has it has malicious intent behind it."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "It's not a positive word. Nobody wants"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "to be manipulated, right? CIA teaches us"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "that manipulation might be one way of"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "interpreting what we're doing. If you"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "imagine a coin, right, a large gold"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "coin."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> The coin has two different sides. And on"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "each side is printed a different symbol."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "That's what we call heads and tails."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Right. So the heads might have the head"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "of a famous president. The tails might"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "have a picture of a famous landmark."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "But the head side and the tail side"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "isn't what actually carries the value of"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the coin. It's still a gold coin. The"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "value is the metal itself. We see"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "manipulation the same way. Manipulation"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "is one side of the coin. Motivation is"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the other side of [music] the coin. So"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "whether you manipulate somebody or"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "motivate somebody is irrelevant. The"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "value is the metal itself. The value is"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "getting them to do what you want them to"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "do. You can manipulate people to get"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "them to do what you want them to do, but"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "you can also motivate people to get them"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "to do what you want them to do. So when"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "people accuse CIA of manipulation, you"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "have 10,000 undercover CIA officers who"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "are saying, \"You don't get it. We're"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "just motivating them.\""}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> Right. Yeah. Very interesting. I have to"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "do something right now because since you"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "brought up Cappuccino, my viewers are"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "very in tune to this. Okay. I was going"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "to pour you a glass of wine. This is, by"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the way, unalcoholic. You drink it. You"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "don't have to drink it. No. But I'll"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "tell you the difference."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "And this is after a few minutes talking"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "to you. If I were to pour the wine this"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "way, my viewers would say, \"I'm not"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "paying attention to this guy.\" Because"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "an old mob technique. Let's say we're"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "all sitting at a table and somebody"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "walked over and wanted to sit down and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "join into the conversation. Well, if"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "somebody recognized that this person we"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "shouldn't be speaking in front of, when"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "I poured the wine, I would pour it back."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "He's like this."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> So, hey, this guy's not on the level."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Don't talk in front of him. Silence. But"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "since we're talking, you're coming this"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "way cuz I I trust what you have to say,"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Andrew."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> That's a great that's a great technique."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> We had our summer techniques, [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "too."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> You know, in that life. But so this is"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "this is let me"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> and then I I want to share one of our"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "alcohol techniques with you."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> I love it."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> That smells nice."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> I'm not alcoholic. You have to have a"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "taste for it. But"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> people are loving this firework."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> Oh, that's interesting."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> Yeah. So I have to share our alcohol tip"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "with you. So CIA"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "knows that alcohol gets people relaxed."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "It gets people to let go of certain"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "inhibitions. Keeping secrets is"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "something that inhibits people from"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "talking."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "But when you're sitting with a Russian,"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "a Romanian, a Ukrainian,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "uh a Japanese, a North Korean, or South"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Korean, a Chinese, they can drink,"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "especially their own local drink of"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "choice. They can they can absolutely"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "outdrink any foreigner who's trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "start a conversation over alcohol. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "we're taught that we go to the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "bartenders early and we tell them, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the tab's going to be on us.\" And"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "[music] we give them a huge tip early."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "$50 tip, $100 tip, depending on what we"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "think we're going to spend, right out of"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the gates. Hey, I'm over here. Tab's"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "[music] on me. Here's your tip. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "here's what I need you to do."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> I need you to dip the rim of my glass in"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "the alcohol of choice, but then fill my"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "glass without any alcohol in it. So, if"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "we're having an oldfashioned, if we're"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "having a ginonic, if we're having"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "whatever, make it look right with the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "right ingredients, but don't put alcohol"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "in my drink. Just keep it on the rim."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "And we'll tell the bartender, \"Hey, I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "with some heavy drinkers and I just want"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "to make sure I can drive myself home at"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "night.\" They never have an issue at all"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "because they already got their tip."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Right. So, they are happy to dip your"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "rim in whatever they want to dip it in,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "charge full price for it, nobody's"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "losing, and then give you a drink that"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "when you go to the bathroom and your and"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "your asset smells your drink. No, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "it's definitely got jin in there. And"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "they never realize that you're actually"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "drinking a virgin drink."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": ">> Wow. Might I use that? [laughter] You"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "can use mine now. Is that They may think"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "you're a mob guy, though, if I do."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> That's No, that that's really cool."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "That's great. So, let me ask you. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "your your whole job as a CIA agent is"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "really to learn how to motivate,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "manipulate people. That's that's really"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "what it is."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> And we do it with a couple different end"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "goals in mind, right? Sometimes you want"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "to steal secrets."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Sometimes we want to find a way to"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "create sabotage. Sometimes we're looking"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "to gain a connection. So, we realize"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "that your secrets are good, but not as"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "good as that other person's secrets. So"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "we need you to connect us. So there's"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "different types of outcomes that we're"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "looking for, but at the end of the day,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "it's all people. CIA is the United"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "States primary human intelligence"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "agency. Human intelligence is a specific"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "term known as human. It's a specific"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "intelligence type of several"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "intelligence types that exist inside the"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "United States. Human intelligence is"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "human. Signals intelligence like what"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "NSA does is sigant. Measurement"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "intelligence is mazint. Defense"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "intelligence is defint."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Imagery intelligence is imint. And"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "there's all these different types of"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "ins. And there's a different agency that"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "masters each one. CIA is the premier"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "agency in the United States for human"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "intelligence."}]

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"over time with the stress of feeling"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "anxiety and for that reason it causes"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the the lay person the average person"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "with anxiety struggles in life because"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "they don't know how to turn this this"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "perceived weakness into a power what CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "does CIA recruits us because we have"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "anxiety really and then teaches us how"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "to tap into it and use it for what it's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "purpose is really that's you're telling"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "me that that's a criteria that is looked"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "for somebody with anxiety that is a"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "category that is a an inherent skill in"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "innate skill that when it's identified"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "it's dovetailed into very specific job"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "categories got you do you believe that I"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "didn't know I was going to ask you this"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "today do you believe that you can cross"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "a line with anxiety or worry and I"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "understand the distinction between the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "two now that I didn't before where CU I"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "am one of those people as are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "my mega successful"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "friends however I've wondered in my life"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "because I also believe in vibrational"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "frequency and energy"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "and uh I'm also a Christian but I do"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "believe in that and I've wondered if"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "I've created uh or drawn to me things"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "I've subconsciously worried about or had"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "anxiety about in my life that I"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "otherwise would not have had come into"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "my world had I not repetitively thought"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "about it do you believe in any of that"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "and if so do you think that someone"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "should guard against that if they're one"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "of these worriers or anxiety people so"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "what I am not a person who who tends to"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "believe in much I tend to take objective"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "fact yep I take objective fact and I try"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "to synthesize it into knowledge that I"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "can then use predictably and um what"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "I've seen in my clients as well as what"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "you're saying right now about yourself"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and your own peer group has been really"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "consistent what I believe is happening"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "is where where people write books about"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "vibrations and the law attraction etc"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "etc etc maybe that's true maybe but"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "here's what I do know I know that people"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "who have a heightened sensitivity that"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "causes them anxiety those are people who"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "have greater informational awareness of"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "what's happening in the world around"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "them yeah because they have that greater"}, 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Where do you see India? Do you see India"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "supporting China or US if there was a"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "war between US and China?"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> I see India being neutral. I see India"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "being neutral. India's"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "I understand that inside India the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "politics are very"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "um unpredictable right very volatile and"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "that's because Indian people are very"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "volatile right like I have yet to meet a"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "calm Indian. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "it doesn't take much before they get"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "very excited about something right so it"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "makes sense that that India and their"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "politicians are so volatile internally"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "because externally they're very"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "consistent they're very collective"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "that's one of the reasons that that"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "India continues to be a closer partner"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "to the United States than Pakistan"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Pakistan is not consistent they have"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "radical changes in their promises and"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "their focus and their uh economics and"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "their military stance India doesn't"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "India is very steady like a like a train"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "right so if there's a conflict between"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "the United States and China India will"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "serve both sides India will be very"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "similar to what uh what Switzerland has"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "always been and I think India models"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "itself off of that neutrality so when"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "the United States puts sanctions on"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Russia Iran India doesn't accept those"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "sanctions it will still do business with"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Russia if it's in the best interest of"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the Indian people"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> and the United States can complain about"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "it all they want but India knows goes,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "\"Hey, if you don't want to buy from us,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that's fine. We have this whole other"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "eastern block that will purchase from"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "us.\" And the United States goes, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "well, shucks. We're going to keep buying"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "from India anyways.\" The United States"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "knows that we are heavily dependent on"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Indian talent"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> in our tech industry."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "They can threaten to shut down visas all"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "they want. But there is no country in"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "the world that pumps out intelligent,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "scholarly, technologically inclined,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "mathematicallyincclined engineers like"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "India."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> also English speaking"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> and also English speaking. So what are"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "you going to do? You just going to cut"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "off that whole talent pool because of"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "your ideology? No. So India as a"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "government and not just the current"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "government, the previous government too"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "and the next government as well. They"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "understand like hey the United States"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "may make a big noise but they need us"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> and India plays that and they know the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "same thing is true about China."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "If you were still in CIA today and you"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "were still active with the spy network"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "and everything that you understand how"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "United States work, how India works. How"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "would you explain India to the America"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "right now? Because India from 50 years"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "ago was very different."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> India today is very different. Forget"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "50, 20 years ago India was different and"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "today India is very different. India"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "used to be dependent on certain people"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "or certain countries. Now we're not."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "India used to be very neutral. Now we"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "still are neutral but with our clear"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "stance as well."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Earlier we used to not comment on"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "anything. Now we're clear that Indian"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "rights, Indian interests, national"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "interest over anything in anyone's"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "ideology."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Indians have started calling out for the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "first time about the western hypocrisy"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "about the games that United States have"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "been playing with China, Russia, India,"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Pakistan. We say it out loud,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> We are focusing on our economy. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "focusing on our citizens interest. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "focusing on just us at this point and"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "that's why we're friends with everyone"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "and we want to just trade. So today's"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "India is different,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> right? And we already spoke about RAW"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "and CIA before, right? So it's we are in"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "a much better position. How would you"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "explain India to America's president"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "right now?"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> If I was director of CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and I had uh a meeting with the"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "president, I would say, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "there's all these countries in the world"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "that are making noise to get attention."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Russia's making noise. Ukraine's making"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "noise. France is making noise. China's"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "making noise. North Korea is making"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "noise. All of the noise making countries"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "are not who we should be focused on. We"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "need to focus on the quietest countries"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "that yield the most power. And the top"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "of that list is India. India is a quiet"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "country. You don't create conflict. You"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "don't argue just to argue. You are"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "correct. You are more confident and more"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "more politically uh ver verbose than"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "you've ever been, but only when asked."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> You're not out there waving a flag and"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "making noise just to make noise. You're"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "not trying to get everybody to notice"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "India."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> True."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> India is saying we're focused on India"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "and when something else intersects with"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "us, we stand our ground and we'll make"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the headlines that day, but we don't"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "make the headlines the next day. Whereas"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "in the United States, we literally do"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "whatever we can to make the headlines"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "every day, you know. 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I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "to discover your hidden spy skill and"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "use it before someone else uses theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "against you."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "If you if you think of a jungle, if the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "world is a jungle, India is the panther."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "It's deadly,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "but it's black. It hides in the night."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "If you don't look for its eyes, you"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "won't even know it's there. And it"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "doesn't hunt everything, but it hunts"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "when it needs to hunt. And if you're"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "going to hunt the panther,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "you need to be ready for a fight,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> right? That's very different than China,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "which is like the rhinoceros, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "It's very different than Canada, which"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "is like the hippo. There there's all"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "these North Korea is the snake, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "You got all these countries that kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "represent these different categories in"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the jungle, but there's only one that"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "has the teeth and the claws to do real"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "damage,"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "but it selects when it fights, and that"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "is India."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Interesting way to describe India."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "What do you think is the biggest"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "strength of India right now and what's"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the biggest weakness?"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> Two great questions. So I think one of"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "the biggest trends in India is"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "education."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Uh I think India understands that it has"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "a large population that it has to"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "educate and it's constantly trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "find ways to expand that education"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "through food programs, through social"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "programs, government programs. I mean"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "there are so many children that are so"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "far in rural India that are so"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "underserved that the government"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "understands that a big part of what"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "makes them successful is they can take"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "very successful Indians out of India"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "just for four years for university, two"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "years for a job, three years on a visa"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "and then they come back and they bring"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "all that knowledge back to India because"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "one thing I will say is fascinating"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "about Indians they are Indian first,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Right. Even if they are what do you call"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "them? ABCDs."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Americanb born confused daisies."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> Yes. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Even even if even if they're"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Americanborn Indians. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> They're still Indian first."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Right. And there's a that's that"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "cultural identity is very powerful. And"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "I think the government of India"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "understands that that cultural identity"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "is going to continue to mean that all of"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "your successful Indians bring that"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "success back to India. You yourself are"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "successful worldwide. You bring that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "success back to India, right? You bring"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "that reputation, you bring that wealth,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "you bring the currency, the tax base,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "you bring the business, whatever. You"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "bring it back to India. So India is"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "correct to be thinking that education is"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "important. Educate more Indians, find"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "more talent, create more talent that can"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "go out in the world and come back and be"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "successful again. I think one of the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "weaknesses in India is that they are"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "still trying to replace existing"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "processes. They're still they're trying"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "to step in and be the new manufacturing"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "base."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> But wealth doesn't come from"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "manufacturing. Wealth comes from"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "creating high techch, high ticket price,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "high value solutions. The United States"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "created their empire following World War"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "II by being the epicenter for"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "technological development. The reason"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "China stole so much from the West was"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "because China knew that if they were"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "ever going to stop being the world's"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "manufacturing base and and all the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "pollution and the water structure and"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the infrastructure challenges that come"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "with being a manufacturing base, if they"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "were going to get past that, they had to"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "focus on technology."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "So they focused on telecom and they"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "focused on electric vehicles and they"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "focused on internet and AI and robotics."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Well, India is now seeing an opportunity"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "to become the new manufacturer, but"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "that's not going to be what makes them"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "very wealthy. That's not going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "what makes them truly independent. India"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "has an opportunity to essentially create"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "another competitor to China because"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "India has the kind of relationships with"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the United States. Well, the United"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "States will gladly give intellectual"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "property to India that they would never"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "give to the Chinese,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> right? They would let they would give"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "India the opportunity to create"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "semiconductors so that we wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "to be so dependent on Taiwan. They would"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "give India the opportunity to"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "manufacture fighter weapons uh tanks,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "airplanes, uh trucks, avionics, drones."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "They we would give that to India. These"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "are technologies that come at a very"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "high price"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> versus trinkets, toys, clothes that come"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "at a very low price. Right? China grew"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "on trinkets and clothes. India"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "was at the same time a competitor to"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "China in terms of basic manufacturing."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "But India hasn't yet realized that it"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "can skip a level. It can skip right to"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "high-tech development by stealing from"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "China, by bartering with the United"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "States simply by being an alternative"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "because the United States above all"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "things doesn't want China to succeed."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "That's what America wants more than"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "anything. So don't let China succeed. So"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "we'll help India succeed if it keeps"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "China from succeeding. M"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> I think China knows that and that's part"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "of why they have increased their"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "offensive position against India and I"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "think India understands it's in the"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "crosshairs of China. So they're trying"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "to maintain friendships with everybody"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "like you said but that's a vulnerability"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "for India. If India doesn't take a"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "chance soon then it's going to be stuck"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "as the manufacturing hub of the world"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "for the next 30 years. The air quality"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "is going to get worse. The water quality"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "is going to get worse. Poverty is going"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "to get worse. You're going to keep"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "having more children than you can"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "educate because you simply don't make"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "enough GDP for everybody."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> You keep saying that China steals from"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "America"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> in what ways?"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": ">> China steals from America in every way."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> Do you think Tik Tok is a way to steal"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "certain things?"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> I do. I absolutely do. I think Tik Tok"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "is more of a tool for influence than it"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "is for theft. What the the way that Tik"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Tok is used for theft is that the"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "algorithm and the the mass data"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "collection is owned by the Chinese. So"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "now they know what age groups are"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "watching what content, what genders are"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "being influenced by what messages, what"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "gets the most likes, what gets the most"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "dislikes, what geographic region logs in"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the most, what internet provider is used"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "the most, uh how much time people on"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "average spend on TikTok, which can be,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "you know, expanded to how much time they"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "spend online. Imagine if you wanted to"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "do harm to a country. How useful is that"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "information? How useful is it to know"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "that there are more people using more"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "hours of Tik Tok on a Verizon-based"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "internet provider in Chicago than"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "anywhere else in the country? Who how"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "are you going to prioritize which"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "internet provider you shut down first?"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Well, it's like, oh, this is easy. Let's"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "learn how to shut down the Verizon"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "internet server. Because if we can kill"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "that one server in Chicago, we're going"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "to shut down Chicago, but it's probably"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "also going to shut down other parts of"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "the country. That's what they get to"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "learn. Oh, we can see that that there"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "are a lot of everybody talks about"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "children like 10 to 15 is what we all"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "think of when we think about the"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "influence that Tik Tok has. My concern"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "is all the adults that are on Tik Tok."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "You know how many people recognize me"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "from Tik Tok and I don't even have a Tik"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Tok account? People recognize me from"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Tik Tok because I'm on somebody else's"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Tik Tok feed. But the average person who"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "uses Tik Tok, they don't they don't"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "realize that the content they're"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "watching isn't always controlled by the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "personality that they're seeing. And"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "they don't bother to look in the lower"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "left corner to see who's actually"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "creating the content. So how much"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "influence do you have not over 15y olds"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "who have very little impact, but"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "influence over 40 year olds, 60 year"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "olds, 30 year olds, 20 year olds? How"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "much of of the challenge that America is"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "going through right now culturally"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "because of the social media age has been"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "cultivated"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "in part by Tik Tok but in part by Meta,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "in part by all of the social media"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "companies. We already know that 2016"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "elections were tampered with by the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Russians through Facebook and through"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "what was then Twitter. Like they know"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "this. So"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "what are we doing about it? That's"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "that's my answer to"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "how is China stealing do I think Tik Tok"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "is a tool they steal the metadata but"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "then they use that metadata to create"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "influence on the right networks"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> country do you also feel it can be a"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "great spy tool because probably it's"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "listening to your conversations tracking"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "your location"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": ">> it's not it's not a probably it's all of"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "social media are phenomenal spy tools"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "what here's a major difference people"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "remember the 1960s and 70s when CIA"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "would create its own technology,"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "we would create the SR71, we would"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "create drone aircraft, we would create"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "uh stuckset and blow up centrifuges in"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Iran, right? We would create"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "technologies from scratch. So now some"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "of the best technology that we use out"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "there isn't developed by CIA. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "developed in the open market. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "developed by innovators and engineers."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "One of the biggest tools that the United"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "States uses to create new technology"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "isn't engineering, it's investment. We"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "can invest in a new technology and part"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "of that investment means they're not"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "allowed to share it with anybody else."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "So that's how we can stay one step ahead"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "of everything because the United States"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "has become the tech innovative sector of"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "the world."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The shocking rendition of Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "President Nicholas Maduro has left the"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "world in a wake of conversation. Some"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "people are outraged. Some people are"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "celebrating. American allies are"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "worried. Other American allies are"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "secretly very excited. But what happens"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "next? People are asking fewer and fewer"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "questions about what will happen next in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Venezuela because they're asking more"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "and more questions about what will"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "happen in Iran. And that's what I want"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "to talk with you about today. When"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Donald Trump looks at Iran, he sees a"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "completely different problem than what"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "he had in Venezuela. Venezuela, where"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Nicholas Maduro was in charge, was a"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "drug country. A drug country that was on"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "America's shores and a drug country that"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "was actively leading to American deaths."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "So much so that the state of New York"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "was actually able to create a valid"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "legal indictment of Nicholas Maduro, a"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "sovereign foreign leader. On the other"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "side of the planet, Iran is a completely"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "different beast. Iran is not actively"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "involved in the drug trade to the extent"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that Venezuela is. Plus, Iran has been a"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "long-term long-d distanceance conflict"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "point for the United States where"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Venezuela was an ally in the"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "notsodistant past. On the other side of"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "the world in Iran, you have some very"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "different complexities than what you had"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "in Venezuela. First of all, Iran is a"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "theocracy, an Islamic theocracy at that."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "So, not only do you have to deal with a"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "government, but you have to deal with a"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "religious government. Second, you have"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Iran's long history of support to"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "international terrorism. Not just"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "naroterrorism, but good old-fashioned"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "extremist terrorism, including their"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "proxy militias that exist in Lebanon, in"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Iraq, in Yemen, and even in Israel"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "itself. Lastly, and possibly most"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "importantly, is that the United States"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "has no active military dominance in the"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "region, unlike what was created with the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "150 warships off the coast of Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "So Donald Trump's options in Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "were much greater than his options in"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Iran. Not only because of the"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "complexities that we talked about, but"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "just because of the concentration of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "military forces that existed off the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "coast of Venezuela that don't exist"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "anywhere near Iran. For that reason, you"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "should not expect Donald Trump to go in"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and kidnap the current Ayatollah of"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Iran. You should not expect American war"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "fighters to go in and assassinate the"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "current head of Iran. But you should"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "expect the Israelis to take that action"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "instead. Here's why I say that. Because"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Israel does have military dominance in"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the region, and Netanyahu and Trump have"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "a very close relationship that has shown"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "that they're willing to support each"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "other in military aggression against"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Iran. The 12-day war that happened in"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Iran recently is a perfect example of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that. And the deployment of US military"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "bombers to take out Iranian uranium"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "enrichment facilities. These are solid"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "examples in recent history that show"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "that Netanyahu is willing to take"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "military action knowing that he has"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "American support. And we have seen"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "multiple times that Israel is willing to"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "carry out assassinations of major"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "political players in ways that the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "United States simply doesn't have an"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "appetite or legal justification to carry"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "out. So understanding that Israel is a"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "country most likely to take some kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "action against Iran's Ayatollah Kmeni,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "let's talk about why I believe that"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "action will be taken imminently. First,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "we have to understand Iranian"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "succession. In Venezuela, succession is"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "playing out just as we anticipated with"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "the vice president taking power in the"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "absence of President Maduro. But in"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Iran, it's going to be very different"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "because the Ayatollah does not have a"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "clear line of succession. In fact, the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "person tagged to succeed the Ayatollah"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "actually died in 2024 in a helicopter"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "accident in the mountains. As a result,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "there has been no clear line of"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "succession following Ayatollah Kmeni"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "since that day. The top two or three"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "candidates to be the next Ayatollah are"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "actually less radicalized and less"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "ideologically focused on the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "revolution than their previous"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "predecessor who died in 2024. So even if"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "a successor is identified, there's no"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "confidence that that successor is going"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "to follow the current Ayatollah's path"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "because of their lack of commitment and"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "dedication to the same revolutionary"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "concepts that make Iran the problem"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "child that it is. The second reason we"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "can expect Israel to take some kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "imminent action against Iran is because"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "of the timing. Right now, the whole"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "world is focused on the United States"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "and their extraordinary rendition of"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "Nicholas Maduro. That means for the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "first time in several months, the"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "airwaves are not being filled with"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Israeli criticism. In fact, what has"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "happened is that the current president"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "of Iran in December of 2025 declared"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "that Iran is at full-fledged war against"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Israel, the West, and the United States."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "So while the United States has been the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "focus of international condemnation,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "what we've seen is Iran increase their"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "escalation of rhetoric against the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "United States and its Western allies."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "This is happening simultaneously with"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "increasing domestic economic protests"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "happening on the ground in Iran. The"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "protests happening in Iran right now are"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "tied to legitimate economic issues and"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "they have not reached the intensity of"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "what we saw in 2022 when domestic"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "protests last plagued Iran. But"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "specifically because of the fact that"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "the protests happening now are initiated"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "by the people because of economic"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "uncertainty and economic stress. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "the perfect time for a foreign country"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "to come in and assassinate the leader of"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Iran because the people of Iran identify"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "their leadership as the source of their"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "economic burden. This is a perfect"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "mirror image of what was happening in"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Venezuela where inflation was running"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "rampant, where international sanctions"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "were making everyday life very hard, and"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "where the people had become"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "disillusioned with their own leadership."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "So, not only do you have the situation"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "where Iranian succession is in question,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "but you also have this window of time"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "where the actual people themselves might"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "support foreign intervention in"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "assassinating the same leader that they"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "don't agree with. The third and final"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "reason why Ayatollah Kamani, the current"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Iranian leader, is at risk of imminent"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "assassination is because the entire"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Western world and Middle East would"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "support the killing of Kani. Iran's"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "conflict with the West and with the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "United States specifically is obvious."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "We already mentioned earlier that"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Iranian President Peshkin has already"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "announced that Iran is at a full-scale"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "war with the West and with the United"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "States specifically. The same is true"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "for Israel. It's well known that Iran"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "and Israel are in a conflict. So the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "idea that the United States or Western"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "allies or Israel itself would want to"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "see Kmeni dead is no surprise to anyone."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "But what might be a surprise to you is"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "understanding that Saudi Arabia and many"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "countries across the Middle East would"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "also welcome the death of Kmeni. They"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "would welcome the desolation of the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "current administration in Iran. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "because major Middle Eastern powers,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Bahrain, have been in conflict with Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "since the Iranian revolution. They've"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "been vying for control of the oil in"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "that area. They've been vying for"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "control of dominance religiously."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "They've been vying for control of"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "economic dominance. A lot of that"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "economic competition is in fact tied to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "oil. And the world has learned in the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "last few days that Venezuela has the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "largest oil reserves in the world, while"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Saudi Arabia has the second largest oil"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "reserves in the world and Iran has the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "fourth largest oil reserves in the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "world. So in much the same way that you"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "see the United States taking action"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "against Venezuelan oil after the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "extraordinary rendition of President"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Nicholas Maduro, you could expect to see"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "the UAE and Saudi Arabia move against"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Iranian oil after the assassination of"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Kmeni. The United States would support"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "this. Israel would support this. Saudi"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Arabia, Bahrain, UAE would all support"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "this. Most of Europe would support this"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "because the world wants to see a weaker"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Iran. In fact, the only countries that"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "don't want to see a weaker Iran, are the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "same countries standing in opposition to"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Western powers, countries like Russia,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "China, and North Korea. So, the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "assassination of Kani right now would"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "not be the kind of thing that would"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "result in international condemnation. If"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "anything, it might be publicly"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "criticized, but privately celebrated in"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "much the same way that we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "public condemnation and private"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "celebration of the capture of Maduro."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Without a doubt, military conflict,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "weaponization, and even fullscale war"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "are making headlines every day. These"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "are everyday topics of conversation and"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "at the center of every conversation is"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the question of critical earth minerals."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "The reason that question is at the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "center of everything, the reason it"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "keeps Americans awake late at night is"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "because we already know empirically that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "America's number one geopolitical"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "competitor, China, controls the vast"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "majority of rare earth minerals and"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "critical use minerals, including three"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "critical earth minerals that are at the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "forefront of all modern technology. The"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "first of those critical minerals is"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "something called lithium. China controls"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "60 to 70% of all lithium production in"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the world. Lithium is a critical use"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "mineral because of its use not only in"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "electric vehicles and modern medical"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "technology, but also because of its use"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "in military industrialization and"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "modernization. The second critical"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "mineral is a mineral called copper. You"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "and I see copper in our everyday life."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "We've known about copper since the day"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "that we carried it around in our pocket"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "with copper pennies. But the truth is"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "that copper is of critical importance"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "when it comes to high technology and"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "modern technology because of its use in"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "conduits and wiring. The third critical"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "mineral I want to talk about is one that"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "you've probably never heard of before."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "It's called malibdinum. Malibdinum is"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "actually a mineral that goes into steel"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "in order to increase the tensile"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "strength or the hardening nature of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "steel. These are just three of the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "critical minerals that exist on"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "America's critical mineral list. These"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "are minerals that are required not only"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "for our national security and our"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "military modernization but also for our"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "everyday life. One of the most important"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "partners in this transformation of"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "American mineral independence is"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Vanguard Mining. Ticker symbol UU UFF."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Vanguard Mining has already set up"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "multiple critical use mineral mines in"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "pro-American countries. Countries like"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Canada, Paraguay, and Argentina. Through"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "these mining operations, they're"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "increasing America's access to raw"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "materials, critical minerals that were"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "previously controlled by China. I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "want you to take my word for it. I want"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "you to look it up for yourself. So, go"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "ahead and research Vanguard Mining,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "ticker symbol UUFF, and learn more about"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "these three critical minerals that"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Vanguard is so focused on. Learn about"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "malibdinum, learn about lithium, learn"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "about copper, and see how important they"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "are to your future and mine. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "here to advocate the extrajudicial"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "killing of any world leader. But what"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "I'm saying is that based on my"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "experience at CIA, this is the most"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "probable and most successful opportunity"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "for Israel specifically to make an"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "assassination effort against Kmeni. An"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "assassination attempt that would be"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "supported by the United States, accepted"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "by the Middle East, and welcomed by"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Europe. Because the imminent"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "assassination of Kmeni would actually"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "improve the lives of the Iranian people"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "immediately, increase trade and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "relationships with the Middle East and"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "the West, and weaken the increasing"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "access of power that's coming from the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "east from countries like Russia, China,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "and North Korea. Lastly, it's important"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "to understand that Kani is already"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "fading. His health is already in"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "decline. And when you see a hostile"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "leader in that kind of condition with no"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "clear succession, it's that much more"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "inviting and strategically viable to"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "carry out some sort of assassination,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "not only for regime change purposes, but"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "also because the world will accept the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "death of an old sickly person easier"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "than it will accept the death of a young"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "vile person. When you take these three"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "bits of evidence together, the fact that"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "there is no clear line of succession in"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Iran, the fact that Israel is so well"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "positioned and most likely prepared for"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "this type of action, and the fact that"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "the international community would most"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "likely accept this type of activity, you"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "see why the death of Kmeni must be"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "imminent, more likely more probable than"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "ever before, because it's the right"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "time. He's the right kind of target, and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "we live in a world that would most"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "likely accept the assassination of the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Ayatollah. You know it's true. I know"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "it's true. This is just the first time"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "anybody's been willing to have an open"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "conversation about it. I'll be"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "continuing to follow the developments of"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "this story. I'll keep you updated along"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "the way and I'll see you on the other"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Listen up everybody. The White House is"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "protecting PE. You hear that? And"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "they're doing it cuz these people are"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "rich. Cuz they were donors, powerful"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "politicians. There's 300 megabits is"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "what Cash Patel said, the FBI director."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "And they've released one so far megabit."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "How is that legal? It's obstruction of"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "justice. A new president could prosecute"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "them. They realized this and that's why"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Pam Bondi has now said to the judge,"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "\"Okay, we have millions more documents"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "we need to release. We need more time.\""}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "I don't want to stoke baseless"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "allegations, but it's clear to me that"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "there's been some connections to foreign"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "governments."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Which foreign governments?"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Certainly in the files to Israel. We"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "need to know what those connections are."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "There have been questions and"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "connections to Russia and the Russian"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "oligarchs. Think about it. How does"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Epstein as a school teacher end up with"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "a half a billion dollars? You know, he's"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "not like those founders who come to you"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "doing some tech company and he's getting"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "money from all these people and he's got"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "this ring of trafficking going"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Is it even a possibility to just think"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "we're not going to tax them anymore?"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Let's get this waste, fraud, and abuse"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "under control and reallocate those"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "funds. I'm a business owner, Ro. I bust"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "my head and I do not want to pay for"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "somebody else to sit on their at home."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Yes, we need to go about waste and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "fraud. I don't think the math works to"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "be able to get health care for everyone"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "and to be able to get a decent education"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "for everyone. If you just do that"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "without having the extraordinary wealthy"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "pay a bit more in tax, whatever you"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "think about the design of this tax, you"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "can't have a nation where you've got"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "some places with $18 trillion and then"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "where I grew up in Pennsylvania,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "hollowedout factories all going over to"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "China or Mexico, people feeling like"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "their kids and grandkids aren't going to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "have a shot at the American dream. We"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "need to industrialize America. Have a"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Marshall plant for America. Build up new"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "factories and industry. Build up new"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "trade schools. Build up new tech centers"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "and jobs across the country. have"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "healthcare and basic public education."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Massie and I will be introducing"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "inherent contempt and Pam Bondi can be"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "personally fined up to $10,000 every day"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "the documents don't come out. She's"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "breaking the law and she and other"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "people at the Justice Department can be"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "put in jail. I don't think Donald"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Trump's going to do it, but we're going"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "to have a new president and then new"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "president can do it."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> They'll all be pardoned. So, that will"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "never happen."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> You have to pardon a lot of people."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "There are hundreds of attorneys"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "reviewing this stuff. It'd be a pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "big conspiracy if everyone is breaking"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "the law. I'm concerned about the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "destruction of evidence, too. How would"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "you ever be certain that the evidence"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "wasn't destroyed?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> The survivors lawyers have seen the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "files. They would know if there's things"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "missing. The career Justice Department"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "officials have seen the files. Now, if"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "you're part of the group that are"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "destroying these files, you're taking a"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "big risk. It's not just people in"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Trump's circle. You're a career"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "prosecutor. You're really risking your"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "career if there's prosecution."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "We uncovered a lot of this two months"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "ago with Ryan Montgomery. The day we"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "released the episode, $6 billion off"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "their stock."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Roblox is the one that I'll focus on the"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "most because that seems like the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "majority of the issues right now."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> I know little kids that use that game."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> There's 75 million active daily users."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "They just banned a young guy who was"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "actually groomed and had issues for"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "himself on Roblox who's has a popular"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "YouTube channel. He started catching"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "predators on Roblox. There was six"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "arrests. I saw six mug shots. They came"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "from this one guy, his name is Schlle."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Roblox sent him a cease and desist"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "letter for being a vigilante on their"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "platform. They did a press release"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "saying they're banning vigilantes from"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Roblox. They want these people on there"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "and your children are on here and I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "telling you, you better get them off. It"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "is going to happen to you. What parent"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "keeps their kid on there after we're"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "telling them"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "I looked at poly market evidence Epstein"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "blackmailed politicians will be released"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "by January 31st. Only a 3% chance"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "anything that has to do with government"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "accountability or doing the right thing"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "always has a very very very low chance"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "that it's going to happen on poly"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "market. It's sad it's 3%. Because we"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "pulled off the almost impossible getting"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "the bill through the house through the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "senate the president to sign it and"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "having a judge now order all the files"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "released. The fact that people still"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "don't believe government. I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "should be a wakeup call. We've got a"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "crisis in this country of trust. I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "tell you what the files are that need to"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "be released, the witness statements, the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "prosecution memos, and we'll know who"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "the people are to hold accountable. Gut."}]

[{"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Ro Kana, welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> Thank you. You got quite the studio. You"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "know, I've done a lot of these. I"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "haven't ever seen a studio with liquor,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "guns, time for from your time in"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Afghanistan, Iraq. It's worth coming"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "here just to see the studio."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> Well, thank you. If you get thirsty, we"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "got plenty of booze here. I don't drink,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "but it looks pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> You got a great collection. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Thank you. But um man, this is so tried"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "to get you and Thomas Massie on at the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "same time, but uh he couldn't make it."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "But I just want to say that what you"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "guys are doing trying to bring"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "disclosure or or or transparency to the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Epstein files and what the hell has been"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "going on with all that. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "thank you for doing that. Well, thank"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you for your voice because you've been"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "talking about this early on and it's why"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "I wanted to come down here and uh it's"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "the survivors. I mean, you know what,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "people don't get how bad this stuff was"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "and of course Thomas has been a key"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "partner, but you have over 1,200 women,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "many of them from workingclass"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "backgrounds. A lot of them, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "didn't have a father. Like they were"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "purposely targeted because they were"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "vulnerable. Epstein creates a rape"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "island where basically rich and powerful"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "people go down there either to abuse or"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "sexually exploit these young girls or to"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "watch in parties as 13 and 14y olds are"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "paraded around and they're drinking"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "booze and laughing. And then you have"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "people traffked these girls even uh when"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "they were underage or 1920 being"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "trafficked to other rich and powerful"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "folks. They call the FBI. The FBI says"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "we're not going to do anything."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "The FBI says, \"What the [ __ ] does the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "FBI do?\""}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> So there's what do they do? I So I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "just gonna I'm sorry. I'm going to cut"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "you off. I've been covering this topic"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "for a long time. I started this with"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Ryan Montgomery"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> about two years ago."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> I know you did."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> Then I brought on Tim Tibo. We're"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "bringing on your buddy Schle who's going"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "after roadblocks."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> I know you're the first and only"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "congressman to actually speak out"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "against Roblox. At least according to"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Schlepp's attorney."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> And you know it's I just interviewed"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Elizabeth Phillips. Are you familiar"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "with this camp?"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> I'm not."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> It's the biggest Christian camp"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> in the [ __ ] world. And they are they"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "they I brought Elizabeth Phillips on and"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "she talks about how they've been"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "molesting thousands of kids for years"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "and putting them under NDA after a"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "settlement so that they can never as a"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "kid so that they can never come out and"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "talk about their sexual abuse at [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Camp Canook."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> It's sick,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> you know? And now we have I mean I"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "[ __ ] voted for this [ __ ] I voted to"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "get these damn files released and it's"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "like a total 180 just happened."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Well, I don't I don't know if you had"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "the president on or the vice president"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "on on your show, but they had"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> both of them on."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> They campaigned on this, right? And so"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "when Massie and I originally did the"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "bill, we thought, okay, Trump should be"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "for this cuz he campaigned. He said,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "look, we're going to release the files."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Here's the truth of the matter. No one"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "cared about this issue since the 1990s."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "It's not like a Donald Trump thing."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Biden, we didn't release the files under"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Biden. This thing was going on uh since"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the 2000s. In 1996, Maria launched a"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "complaint with the FBI. And she was"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "told, \"We're not going to do anything.\""}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "By the way, you talk to some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "other survivors, they were told, \"Don't"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "talk to the New York police. Epstein is"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "too connected.\" for 30 years until some"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "of the documents just came out because"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "of Massie in my bill. Maria was called a"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "liar by everyone in power and said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "she never filed a complaint with the"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "FBI.\" So when Trump said he wants to"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "release the files, he was right. When he"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "said that the system is corrupt"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "protecting rich and powerful people, he"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "was right. And we gave him the benefit"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of the doubt. Then Pam Bondi comes and"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "says, \"Oh, there's no there no more"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "files.\" I mean, come on. That's when"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Massie and I do this bill and we"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "initially thought maybe Trump would"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "support it because his own attorney"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "general is betraying his promise. And"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "what has been disappointing is we've for"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "the last five six months have had to"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "fight the administration at every step"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "of the way which gets me to believe like"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "who is protecting these people? I I just"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "I don't understand."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "I I cannot I got really [ __ ] pissed"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "off at the Democrat party because the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "maps the minor attracted persons [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "before Trump came into office. We talked"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "about it all the time."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> Now I I Why are we protecting Why is the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "White House protecting pedophiles? Why"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "is the White House protecting"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "pedophiles? I just don't understand it,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Ro. I can't [ __ ] get it through my"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "head why we would protect pedophiles."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "The other thing is this country has the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "biggest [ __ ] problem with sex"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "exploitation and sex trafficking in the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "world. We can talk about [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Venezuela and Mexico and Ukraine and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Russia and [ __ ] China and waste fraud"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and abuse and [ __ ] liberals this and"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Democrats this and Republicans and we"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "have a pedophile problem. We have a"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "[ __ ] pedophile problem in this"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "country and nobody's doing anything"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "about it in government except you and"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Thomas Massie. What the [ __ ] is going"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "on?"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> You know how I know this? Cuz"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> is everybody in government a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "pedophile now? What the [ __ ] is"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "happening?"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Well, I don't understand who they're"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "trying to protect cuz I keep saying it's"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "not about Trump. There's there's so many"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "people, Democrats, Republicans, who were"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "involved in all of this. Just release"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "the files. And we know, they say, \"How"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "do you know, Ro, that there are other"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "men involved?\" First of all, just use"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "your common sense. There, 1200 plus"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "survivors. You think one guy raped all"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "of them? You think one guy abused all of"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "them? Of course not. There was a system"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "of powerful, rich men who either"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "trafficked in these girls or abused them"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "or showed up to Epstein's Rape Island."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "The survivors haven't told me the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "specific names, but what they have told"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "me with their lawyers is the type of"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "people who were involved. a uh Wall"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Street banker, a powerful politician,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "and they've said that they sat through"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "interviews with the FBI. They're called"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "302 statements, and they told the names"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "on those 302 statements. So, release the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "302 statements. They're not doing that."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Even though the law explicitly calls for"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "releasing those statements, we'll know"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "who these powerful men are. Then there"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "was a prosecution memo. You know,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "originally there were 60 counts against"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Epstein in supposed to be in Florida."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "They prosecuted him on two counts."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "There's a memo which explains why there"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "should have been 60 counts, including"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "ties with foreign countries, including"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "ties with people uh who were being who"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "were financing him, including"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "allegations of a honeypot uh system"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "where he was trying to entrap basically"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "powerful men. And they're not releasing"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the memo even though the law explicitly"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "says we want to know all the decisions"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "of why he was charged or not charged."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "This is I mean it's a it's they're"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "covering it up and the people are asking"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "why who are the powerful forces that"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "have such influence that they're"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "covering this up. every every citizen I"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "talk to, hear, see, see say see on"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "social, anything once those files"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "released, was it every single person in"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "Congress that voted for it to release"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "him? And was there every single person"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "in the Senate except one person?"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Everyone in the House except one."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> Everyone in the House except"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> and every senator. And but I got to give"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "credit not just to Massiey's courage"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "because he's got billionaires funding"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "against him and the billionaires don't"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "like me. these days either. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "so you you go after the Epstein class."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "You make a lot of enemies. You know,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "look at my ex uh and you see the people"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "who go after Massie and me, but it"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "wasn't just Massie uh and me. Marjorie"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Taylor Green, Lauren Boowbert, and Nancy"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Mace stuck their neck out to sign a"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "discharge petition that the two of us"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "had to force a vote on it. They got"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "bullied by the White House. They got"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "bullied by the speaker. They got"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "threatened. Their political careers were"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "threatened. Marjorie Taylor Green lost"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "her seat, gave up her seat in Congress"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "over this."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Didn't didn't the president tell"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "her what did he tell her?"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> Oh, he he he told he told her that uh"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "she's betraying him. Look, Marjorie"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Taylor Green was for Donald Trump when"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "he came down the escalator. She was with"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Donald Trump when he ran in 2020 and"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "lost. She was with Donald Trump when he"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "said the election was stolen. I to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "disagree with her, but she was out there"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "defending him. She was with Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "in 2024 when Dantis and others were"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "talking to about running against him. No"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "one had been more loyal to do to Donald"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Trump and she when she joined the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "petition, she says, \"Ro, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "explain to Trump that he actually can be"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "a hero. He's going to come on board. I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "telling you, he's going to come on"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "board.\" She said Trump says to him,"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "\"Well, you're hurting some of my"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "friends. You're this is not the right"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "thing. You're hurting people.\" How about"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "hurting the survivors? How about hurting"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the women?"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> Yeah. How about the [ __ ] kids? It's"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "kids. Girls,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> kids hurting your friends, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> gives a [ __ ] about your [ __ ] friends."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "We give a [ __ ] about kids."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> And these are these are workingass"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "girls. I wish people could see their"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "stories and how they were exploited."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "It's a class issue. Rich, powerful"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "people connected to politicians doing"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "figuring out, well, who's vulnerable,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "who doesn't have a father, who doesn't"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "have a lot of money, you know, uh how do"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "we get that girl uh to start with giving"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "us massages? You know what the saddest"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "thing that I heard from a survivor? They"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "were saying that the survivors are"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "guilty cuz the survivors were actually"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "recruiters of aiding and abetting uh"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "other girls uh in getting raped or"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "getting abused. So one of the survivors"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "says, \"Yeah, I did that. You know why I"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "did that? Cuz I was so afraid that I was"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "going to be abused that I went and I got"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "other junior high girls and other high"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "school girls to take my place cuz I"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "didn't want to be abused.\""}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Junior high girls."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Junior high girls. junior high girls and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "we can't release the files be before we"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "move on and and we just both get pissed"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "off side of what we're doing. I just"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "what we talked about Ryan Montgomery,"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Tim Tibo, I told you about Elizabeth"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Phillips who I just interviewed. We're"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "bringing on slept. I mean it's such a"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "problem in this country. What I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "just curious what what can parents do"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "right now? not call their congressman,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "not call their senator. That shit's not"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "working. What can people do right now on"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "their own to protect their kids?"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "One, they need to know how widespread"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "this is. You know how it's widespread? I"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "I realize this cuz since I've been"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "affiliated with Epstein, I get stopped"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "on an airport. People will say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "congressman, can I tell you about what"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "happened to me?\""}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "I get I had I've known people for 30"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "years and they said, you know, Ro,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "something happened. One person told me,"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "you know, when I was four to eight years"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "old, my uh babysitter's boyfriend abused"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "me. And I never told my mom or my dad"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "cuz my dad would have killed the guy and"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "my mom would have totally lost it. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "I've held this with me. And she said to"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "me, \"Ro, it's like a box. You put it in"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "a box and you put it away, but it comes"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "back at any moment. And the amount of"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "people who have faced this, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "saying all from Epstein, obviously, just"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "faced this in this country is"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "extraordinary. And it's sickening. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "a s it's a national crisis. First thing"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "we need to realize is we've got a moral"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "crisis in this country. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> Second thing is when you're having your"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "kids go to a sleepover, go to a sports"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "game, go on a field trip, be paranoid. I"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "mean, I don't want to scare folks, but"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "when you have them on a a gaming site,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "when you have them on the internet, they"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "need to be paranoid. The parents need to"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "understand that this is not something"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "that happens uh in a remote part of the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "country. This could happen to your kids."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> But the main reason I want these Epstein"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "files out is cuz it'll force a reckoning"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "in this country. People are it'll be the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "biggest scandal I fundamentally believe"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "in 100 years cuz it's going to expose"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "what's how sick our elite culture is"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "where for their own gratification they"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "think that they can just abuse these"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "girls and nothing will happen. And that"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "kind of culture has permeated uh across"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "the nation. They need to be shamed. They"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "need to be held accountable."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Mhm. You know, John, there buildings"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "named after some of these people and"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "these survivors go around and they're"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "seeing these people celebrated in the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "financial world, in the political world,"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "honored, and they've committed the most"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "heinous act. It's like we may not agree"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "on much. I think most Americans agree"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "you don't rape American girls. Like"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that's that's the the line. Don't rape"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "any girls. None. But uh well, Ro, let me"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "give you an introduction here before we"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "get started. So [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Ro Kana, representative for California's"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "17th congressional district in Silicon"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Valley, an advocate for progressive"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "economic patriotism, reducing inequality"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "in ethical tech governance."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "And most significantly, you had the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "courage to co-sponsor along with"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Representative Massie the bill to fully"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "release the Epstein files to the public."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "And that's really why you're here."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "husband to Ridu and father of two"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "children. And I've heard I'm told you're"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "here to break break some new news here"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "as well. So, I'm excited about that. And"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "uh you know, while we're on while we're"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "on the Epstein stuff, I looked at Poly"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Market on Poly Market that they give a"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "3% chance that the evidence Epstein"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "blackmailed politicians will be released"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "by January 31st. Only a 3% chance."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Anything that has to do with government"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "accountability or doing the right thing"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "always has a very very very low chance"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "that it's going to happen on poly"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "market. Why do you think that?"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": ">> That's sad. It's sad it's 3%. Because we"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "pulled off the almost impossible getting"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "the bill through the house, through the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "senate, the president to sign it, uh,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "having a judge now order all the files"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "released."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "the fact that people still don't believe"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "government. I mean, this should be a"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "wakeup call. We've got a crisis in this"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "country of trust."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": ">> And I'll tell you what the files are"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "that need to be released. The witness"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "statements, the prosecution memos, and"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "we'll know who the people are to hold"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "accountable. Good. Good. Real quick,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "everybody gets a gift."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": ">> Oh, here you go."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Vigilance League gummy bears made in the"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "USA. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> Legal in all 50 states."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": ">> I'm going to Does this give you like"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "some secret power?"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> Nope. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> I wish it did."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> Does it, you know, I do I get to like"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "take these and then go meet Pam Bondi,"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "get the files out or, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:49", "text": ">> I hope so."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": ">> I love it."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": ">> I'll give you an extra bag for her."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": ">> And then uh I have a Patreon account."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "It's a subscription account. We've"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "turned it into quite the community. And"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "uh so thank you for this."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": ">> You're welcome. And so I offer I offer"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "them the opportunity to ask every guest"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "a question. So this is from Braxton"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Ballard."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": ">> Congressman Connor,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": ">> with the current delay of the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "file release and lack of clarity in the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "information that is provided, what"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "actions do American citizens have to"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "begin demanding justice?"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> They need to say first why this matters."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Because you know what politicians say,"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "\"Oh, people just care about health care"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "costs.\" They do. They care about housing"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "costs. Uh, Rowan Massie, this is a"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "conspiracy theory. It's a distraction."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "People don't care. Let them know, first"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "of all, you're a congressman, your"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "senator, your politicians, that you care"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "that rich and powerful people can't play"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "by their own rules, and you want to know"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "who these people are so they're"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "prosecuted and held accountable, and"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "that you're disgusted that young girls"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "were raped on a rape island and abused."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "And you don't think it's a conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "theory that you want to know who the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "other powerful men are. Look, you either"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "believe Massie me and the survivors and"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "people like Marjorie Taylor Green that"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "this is one of the greatest scandals and"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "there are a lot of powerful people who"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "raped these girls uh or covered it up"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "and are hiding behind it or you believe"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "that it's a hoax. There's no in between."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Uh you either think I'm a liar,"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Massiey's a liar, Margie Taylor Green's"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "a liar, the survivors are a liar, or you"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "believe that something disgusting"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "happened. So if we have that kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "outrage and then you messy and I this is"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "my fight. I'm not giving up. Massiey's"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "not giving up. We've taken on a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "interest. I don't care. Like, I'm going"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "to fight every day I'm in Congress until"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "these files are released. And we we just"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "uh put to a judge to create a special"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "master to get these documents out. Uh"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "there are millions of these documents. I"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "know where which documents have the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "information. Uh and we need people"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "amplifying it. When we Massie and I do"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "something, blast it all over to the"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "members of Congress. tell the president"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "that the MAGA base, you know what's most"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "helpful is when the MAGA base speaks up"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "because he doesn't care about people"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "like me who voted for Kla Harris. He"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "doesn't care about people who are upset"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "who've impeached him twice. I mean, he's"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "like, \"Well, screw them. I won.\""}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": ">> He cares about people who voted for him."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "He cares about people who are with him."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "And if they say to him, you know, Mr."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "President, like, we're with you and all"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "your other stuff, but not this, that's"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "what's going to make a difference. I've"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "seen a lot of people reverse their"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "opinions about a lot of a lot of very"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "big podcasters"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "dropping like flies, you know, in this"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "in this administration. But you how many"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "how many files are there? The there are"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "there's 300 megabits is what Cash Patel"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "said, the FBI director, and they've"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "released uh one so far megabits. So,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "it's like they've released less than 1%."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "How? So,"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "how is that legal?"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "Isn't Isn't it illegal what they're"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "doing?"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> Well, it's illegal. It's obstruction of"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "justice. A new president could prosecute"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "them uh for what they're doing. They"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "realize this and that's why Pam Bondi"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "has now said to the judge, \"Okay, we"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "have millions more documents we need to"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "release. We need more time.\" And so, why"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "why do they need time?"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> It's a [ __ ] digital file. Why do you"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "need time? So, they've got actually"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "twothirds of the Southern District of"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "New York attorneys working on this"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "apparently."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": ">> Working on what?"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> On on redactions. Look, they need to"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "look for some redactions, which is the"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "survivors. But you know what? They've"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "released some files with the survivors"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "names, but not the people who abuse the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "survivors names. So, they're claiming"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "that they've got to get the survivors"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "names out. Fine. They're legitimate."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "They are legitimately"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "proactively"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "protecting pedophiles. They are"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "protecting pedophiles at this point"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> by redacting the abusers names"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": ">> by"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> the White House. Listen up everybody."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "The [ __ ] White House is protecting"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "pedophiles."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "You hear that? They're [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "protecting pedophiles. That's what the"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "[ __ ] they're doing. And they're doing it"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "because these people are rich, cuz they"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "were donors. Because they're powerful"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "politicians."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "And look, I don't want to stoke baseless"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "allegations, but it's clear to me that"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "there's been some connections to foreign"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "governments."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> Which foreign governments?"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> Well, there's connections of of"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "certainly in the in the files to Israel."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "We need to know what what those"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "connections are. There have been"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "questions and connections to Russia and"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "the Russian oligarchs. We need to know"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "what that information is. And from"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "survivors lawyers, they're saying there"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "are other national security uh agencies"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "involved. I mean, think about it. How"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "does Epstein as a school teacher end up"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "with a half a billion dollars? He"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> It's a great question."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> He didn't invent AI. You know, he's not"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "like those founders who came come to"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "you, I'm doing some tech company. He's"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "there and he's getting money from all"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "these people and he's got this ring of"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "sex trafficking going on where he's"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "farming out girls to different people"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "and he's having these parties on"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "Epstein's rape island. Like, how is this"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "not the biggest scandal that you got"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "these rich powerful people in our"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "society who think they get to play by"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "their own set of rules? You know what"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "what what upsets me, what pisses me off"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "is people like you go and take all this"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "risk with your life in Iraq, in"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Afghanistan, the the the guys who"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "whatever you think of Venezuela, the"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "guys who took the risk of their lives"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "with that. They have this honor to the"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "country sacrifice for our values. And"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "you got rich and powerful people who"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "think they've made a bunch of money who"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "can exploit American girls or girls who"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "are girls are immigrants and have no"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "consequence and get away with it. They"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "It's unamerican. It's the most"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "unAmerican selfish thing that totally"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "degrades the service of people who do"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "things honorable things like wear our"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "the military uniform and serve the"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "nation. And that's why I want to stick"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "it to him. I I I this whole Epstein"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "class needs to go. And to me, this is"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "the biggest issue in American politics."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "I mean, I'm biased because it's"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "something I've devoted now this a lot of"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "my life to, but if we're going to allow"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "rich and powerful people to do whatever"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "they want in this country, and what's"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "more"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "elite impunity than abusing a young"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "girl, if you're going to allow that,"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "then you don't have a country, you don't"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "have values, you don't have a democracy."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": ">> 100% agree with you."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "All right, let's talk about one of the"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "most underrated organs in your body,"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "your liver. It's doing over 500"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "functions every single day, filtering"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "out what you consume, supporting"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "digestion, energy, and metabolism. And"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "most of us never think about it until"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "something feels off. Modern life is"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "tough on your body. Processed foods,"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "stress, late nights, everyday"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "environmental elements, all add up. and"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "your liver is working overtime to keep"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "things running smoothly. That's why"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "daily liver support matters. 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I mean, I I"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "believe you seen anything"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": ">> from survivors and survivors lawyers. I"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "mean, I I think that there are people uh"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "that were uh rich and powerful folks uh"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "who uh conveniently were were were given"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "access to these parties or access to"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "these girls. Uh and um Epstein in turn"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "had a lot of information and a lot of"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "contacts and was able to facilitate a"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "lot of meetings. Now I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "his motive was. Was he was he doing what"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "was he doing? Who was he doing the"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "bidding for? That's why we need the"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "files out. You know, you've got a"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "background in intelligence. You you'd"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "have better sense than me. But I know"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "that it's not something doesn't smell"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "right. It doesn't smell right that you"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "have someone contact the FBI in 1996,"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "Maria, and say that this guy is abusing"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "young girls and the FBI does doesn't"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "look into it. Not only do they not look"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "into it, our government and every person"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "in the media has spent the last 30 years"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "saying she was a liar. She never"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "contacted the FBI. And it's only because"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "of Massie and my law that part of the"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "documents they came out was her"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "complaint to the FBI in 1996. 30 years"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "later, she's vindicated. But there is"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "something deeply rotten about what"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "happened. And I want to know the"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "financial interest who paid this guy,"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "what his motive was to try to get all"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "these rich and powerful people. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "don't you think it's a bit odd that he's"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "talking to prime ministers and"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "politicians and head bankers and they"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "all are going down to this."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": ">> Everybody thinks it's odd. You know,"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> everybody thinks it's odd."}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> And and if there's nothing to hide,"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "here's what I don't understand. All"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "these people are saying it's a hoax."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "It's a conspiracy. Massie and Connor are"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "out there. They're stoking conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "You know how you settle it? What"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "conspiracy?"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": ">> Well, they're like, \"Oh, their their"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "claim, this is how ludicrous their claim"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "is. Their claim is the only bad guy is"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "Epstein and Maxwell and everyone else,"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "it's all it's all it's just Epstein and"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "Maxwell who was a pervert and that and"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "we're we're focused on a dead guy who"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "was a pervert and give it up.\" No one"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "else was involved. Okay, if that's what"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "you believe that Epstein and Maxwell"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "pulled this off with,200 girls and"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "survivors and all the girls and and the"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "women now are lying about the other rich"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "and powerful people and then he just"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "happened to make a half a billion"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "dollars and he just happened to email"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "every powerful person in the world,"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "including uh the current president and"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "past presidents and heads of states"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "around the world. You know, most people"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "can't even shake hands or get within a"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "thousand feet of a president and this"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "guy knows them all and but it was just"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "that he was a sexual pervert and no one"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "else was involved. If that really is the"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "case, then release the damn files."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "Release the files and prove Massie and"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "me a liar. But there's there's no gray"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "here. Either Massie and I and the"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "survivors are telling the truth or we're"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "lying. So expose us. If if you think"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "we're lying, expose us. you'd end you'd"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "end their political careers. But I know"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "that I'm telling the truth. Massie knows"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "that he's telling the truth. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "willing to take on the wrath of powerful"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "interest because ultimately until we"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "hold a corrupt class accountable, people"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "aren't going to trust government. And"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "I'm, you know, I'm more liberal than"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "you. I'm a progressive. I want the"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "government to do stuff, healthcare,"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "childcare. How do I make that case when"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "people say the government is corrupt? I"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "got You got to have transparency in"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "government. [snorts] What I mean, what"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "are these? What are the files? Who wrote"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "the files? Where did they come from? Are"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "they FBI files? Are they Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "files? Are they MSAD's files? Are they"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "Russian files? What are the What are the"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "files? Who is keeping tabs on all this"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "[ __ ] So, some of the files are the FBI."}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "That's the most straightforward thing."}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "They're basically 1,200 survivors and"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "their lawyers who meet with an FBI agent"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "and were interviewed and they ask these"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "survivors, \"Tell us what happened to"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "you. Tell us who else was involved.\""}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "They're called 302 statements. Those"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "statements should come out. They haven't"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "released a single one of those. That's"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "the first thing they should release. And"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "then though the FBI goes and interviews"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "these men, suspects, some of them may be"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "innocent. And I'm not saying everyone"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "who the FBI interviews is guilty, but"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "they have memorandum of that. They say,"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "\"Okay, when did you show up to the"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "island? What were you doing? Why did you"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "meet Epstein?\" They should release all"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "of that. They don't they have not"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "released that. Then you have So those"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "are the FBI files. Then you have the"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "Justice Department that took Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "computer and he's they've got all his"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "emails. They've got the photographs."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "They've got his correspondence. They"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "should release all of that. They haven't"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "released any of that. We know that"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "evidence in the Epstein uh computer will"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "show who else was involved. Then you've"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "got the Justice Department having these"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "prosecution memos. Why does that matter?"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "Cuz there was a brave assistant US"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "attorney who said there's 60 counts"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "against Jeffrey Epstein back in Florida"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "in the early 2000s, 2007. And they told"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "her, \"Drop the case. Only charge him"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "with two counts.\" When does that happen?"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "58 counts vanish. A guy who's raping"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "underage girls only gets charged with"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "two counts, is let out while under"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "arrest to go continue to rape and abuse"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "underage girls. Show us what those other"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "58 counts were. Show us why you decided"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "not to prosecute. And then in 2019,"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "there were co-conspirators who were"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "named. Okay. Epstein wasn't alone."}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "Suddenly though, those co-conspirators"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "are are released. We don't have to"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "prosecute the co-conspirators. Well,"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "there's a prosecution memo explaining"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "why the co-conspirators should have been"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "prosecuted. Release that so we know why"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "you chose to not prosecute people. Who"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "are you protecting? Look, if you're not"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "moved by the fact picturing like a"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "seventh grader being raped on an island"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "or think of like an eighth grader at a"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "party with multi-millionaires and"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "politicians being paraded around naked"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "and people with, you know, drinks in"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "their hand laughing. If you're not"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "disgusted by that, be disgusted by the"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "fact that rich and powerful people are"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "so influential in this country that they"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "had a president campaign on releasing"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "the files. They've had a House of"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "Representatives pass a law, the Senate"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "pass a law, and they still can't get the"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "damn files out. Like, doesn't that just"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "make you disgusting?"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:08", "text": ">> I want to know what the repercussions"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "are. I mean, because the deadline was"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "December 19th, if I remember correctly."}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:16", "text": ">> It's January 9th."}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:19", "text": ">> What What are the repercussions? Are"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "there any repercussions? I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "any politicians have any [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "repercussions ever."}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:25", "text": ">> Well, there there there are"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "repercussions. First of all, they"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "thought, \"Okay, they're going to do the"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "release and people are going to forget"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "about it. They'll release a bunch of BS"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "and then no one's going to care.\" And"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "one of the reasons that I appreciate"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "your voice is that you're not you're"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "calling them on that. You're not letting"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "them get away with it. And they were"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "shocked. Christmas Eve, they come out"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "and say, \"Okay, no, no, no. We're we"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "have got more documents.\" Because they"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "realized that the the their own base,"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "the MAGA base, wasn't letting them uh"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "get away with this. So they come out uh"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "now in January and they say to the"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "judge, \"We've got 3 million more"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "documents, 5 million more documents."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "We're going to release them in these"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "next next few weeks.\" And Massie and I"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "went to the judge and said, \"You need to"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "supervise this and see how these"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "documents come out.\" Now, if they don't"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "do it, there's three repercussions."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "Massie and I will be introducing"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "inherent contempt next week, which is"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "only requires the House to pass it. And"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "Pam Bondi can be personally fined up to"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "$10,000 every day that the documents"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "don't come out."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:33", "text": ">> That's it."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": ">> No, that's that's the first. The second"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "thing is she's breaking the law and she"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "and other people at the Justice"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "Department could be uh put in jail. I"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "mean, they they can be prosecuted. Now,"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "I don't think Donald Trump's going to do"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "it, but we're going to have a new"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "president and that new president can do"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": ">> They'll all be pardoned. So, that will"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "never happen."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": ">> You think he'll he'll pardon all of"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "them? Even uh"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't he?"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:58", "text": ">> Well, the they're career Justice"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "Department officials who if they're"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "along with this, I mean, he'd have to"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "pardon a lot of people. They're hundreds"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "of attorneys reviewing this stuff. It'd"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "be a pretty big conspiracy if everyone"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "is breaking breaking the law. But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "I mean, look, it may be a case that it"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "takes a new president to get all of this"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "out and some people get away with it."}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "But, you know, I'm concerned about the"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "destruction of evidence, too. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "making sure that the evidence is not"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "destroyed. The"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:25", "text": ">> How would you do that?"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:27", "text": ">> How would you destroy"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:28", "text": ">> How would you ever be certain that the"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "evidence wasn't destroyed"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": ">> or it hasn't been already? Well, look, I"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "you can't be certain, but the vict the"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "survivors lawyers have seen the files,"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "some of the survivors lawyers. So, they"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "would know if there's things missing."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "Their career justice department"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "officials have seen the files and it it"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "now if you're part of the group that are"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "destroying these files, you're taking a"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "big risk cuz you're you're violating the"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "law. You could be prosecuted. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "it's not just people in Trump's circle."}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "You're you're a career prosecutor. You"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "you're really uh risking your career if"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "the if there's prosecution. So, I I I I"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "do think we're going to get to the truth"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "of the matter, whether we're going to"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "get accountability for Bondi uh and"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "Patel. I mean, we're we're we're trying"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "everything we can, but ultimately if"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "Trump pardons them, yeah, they they get"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "they get away with it."}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": ">> I mean, let's just reverse engineer"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "this. So, you say the only thing that"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "needs to be maybe he didn't say the only"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "thing the way to the main thing that"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "needs to be redacted is 1,200 names,"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> correct?"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> The victim's names."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> You're a Silicon Valley guy. You mean to"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "tell me we can't create a [ __ ] AI"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "program that just redacts the names in"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "about I don't know 3 minutes"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:39", "text": ">> all three million files in there just"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "blacks them out we can't"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": ">> all the people over there in Silicon"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "Valley Palunteer all these things they"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "can't they can't figure out how to make"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "a program that just redacts that real"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "quick"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:52", "text": ">> they could I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": ">> they could I know I'm being a little"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "facicious here but"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": ">> but they could I yeah no look I mean"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "obviously they they want to drag their"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "feet they they'll claim okay That's not"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "enough. There needs to be human checkgun"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "AI. Fine. I Massie and I are less"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "concerned about the time. If they had"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "come back to us and said, \"Look, you're"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "you're you're pushing too fast on"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "December 19th. We're going to do it by"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "March 15th.\" Fine. The problem we have"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "is they're not releasing the actual"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "documents. They're they're releasing"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "fluff. I mean, here and there they gave"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "us something, but they're not releasing"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "the witness memorandum. They're not"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "releasing the Epstein files. They're"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "protecting people. And and you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "Trump is out there himself saying,"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "\"Yeah, I got to a lot of people get"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "hurt. I don't want my my buddies to get"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "hurt.\" Like, I that's what I don't get."}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "I I I really don't get why he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "just come out and get these files out."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "And what what is the force? Like what"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "what is holding it back? It's a cuz he's"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "he's a blackmail operation. What do you"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "think's holding him back?"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "Say it."}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": ">> Well, I you know, I'm What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "I mean, I don't know. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:56", "text": ">> What do I think?"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:02", "text": ">> I think it's Israel. I think Israel MSAD"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "is holding this [ __ ] back. That's what I"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "think. Have you seen anything that that"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "any context here that might make you"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "believe that in the recent last 6"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "months, last year?"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": ">> Like I've said, I I I've I I have reason"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "to believe that foreign governments were"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "involved and that the names that have"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "come up have been Russia and and and"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "Israel. What what the level of"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "involvement, I have no idea. Uh, and but"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "there's some force more powerful than"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "just campaign donors involved in"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "covering this up cuz otherwise it"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "doesn't make sense. It doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "sense why they're fighting so hard to"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "keep these files. Like you can say a lot"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "of things about Donald Trump. He"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "understands politics. He don't get"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "elected president twice. He knows this"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "thing is hurting him. It's the one issue"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "that is hurting him amongst his base. So"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "why wouldn't he just get the files out?"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "And that's what Marjorie Taylor Green"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "was saying. Like this thing was never"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "about trying to go after Trump. And"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "there's actually no evidence that I've"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "seen that he was involved in the abuse"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "of underage girls. We haven't seen any"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "evidence of that. There other rich and"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "powerful men. So why if you're the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "president, wouldn't you just say, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "like get it out there.\" I don't get it."}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "There's some force"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "bigger than that that is holding back"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "us getting to the truth. And that's what"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "should be disturbing to Americans other"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "than that like our culture is needs a"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "moral reckoning that this that we allow"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "this to happen. What are the forces that"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "are preventing us from doing this? And"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "are and are we going to get people"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "actually willing to stand up for to it?"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "It seems like you got a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "standing up to it. I mean, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "what else everybody can do, but"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "everybody's screaming at I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "know anybody that's not screaming at the"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "top of their lungs. Release these damn"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "files."}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:58", "text": ">> Except"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "invite the vice president back. Ask him."}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "Well, he could get involved."}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:04", "text": ">> Oh, they're not going to come back here."}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "Ro,"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:05", "text": ">> really?"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": ">> he he's got Trump may not. He needs to"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "He's going to He wants to run. He's got"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "to come back in 20."}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": ">> I hope he does. I would love for him to"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "come back, but I don't know. I've been"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "pretty hard on him lately."}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": ">> Well, I I I I just think, look, he was a"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "We disagree. We go back and forth. Uh"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "but I think he could be a constructive"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "force here. He should He should be the"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "guy saying, \"Look, let's get get these"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "files out.\" Like, does he want to have"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "this as a liability? Why? I mean, he"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "said it three years ago. He was"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:40", "text": ">> I just retweeted it today. Yeah. No, I"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "mean he he should be he should be out"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "there saying get all the stuff out"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "there. Like this is a new generation of"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "politicians, Democrats like Roana, May"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "Massie, Marjorie Taylor Green, you know,"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "it's a previous generation that did all"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "this horrible stuff. Expose it. The FC"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "class, you know, when Democrats have"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "fallen, I haven't had any sympathy."}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "First guy taken out was a British"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "ambassador. He constructed Tony Blair's"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "victory. The reality is Larry Summers"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "was Treasury Secretary for Bill Clinton"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "and he was his is caught up in all of"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "this and I said that, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "support if the Clintons coming and"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "testifying, fine. If it's Democrats,"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "Republicans, I don't care. Massie"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "doesn't care. What was the deal with the"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "Clintons? They were supposed to show up."}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": ">> They should show up. They're I support"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "that. He's the Republican. He said,"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "\"Look, let's have them in front of the"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "committee.\" And I they're scheduling it,"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "but but I've said yeah, they should they"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "should answer what they know."}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:38", "text": ">> So they did not refuse to show up."}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:39", "text": ">> They have not refused."}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:41", "text": ">> Okay. So that was"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean [ __ ] It"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": ">> it's now the scheduling like they need"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "to do it soon and we need to have they"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "should show up. They should do the"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "deposition and and you know but there"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "there shouldn't be a selective release"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "like don't have the Justice Department"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "just put Bill Clinton's pictures in"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "there because you know you want to make"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "political headlines. Release everything."}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "I mean, so play it straight. Massie and"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "I have played it straight. If it's 90%"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "Democrats in their files, I don't care."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "If it's 90% Republicans, I don't care."}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "Van should have the same thing. He's not"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "in the files. He's in his 40s. You know,"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "it's a bunch of people who are now in"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "their 70s and 80s who were caught up in"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "all of this stuff. It it it there needs"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "to be a cleaning. That's why I've said"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "this Epstein class needs to go. And I"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "think we need, you know, we we we the"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "the only thing that's going to get this"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "out is the MAGA base cuz that's that's"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "what got the bill passed. You know,"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Trump had I don't think he even realized"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "he signed my bill. I mean, we we kept"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "saying it was a messy bill because it"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "was a Republican bill. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "he's like, \"All right, sign Roana's"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "bill.\" He didn't he didn't have a"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "signing ceremony. We had Massie and I"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "called. He didn't want to do a signing"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "ceremony for the bill. But the point is,"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "we had 70 Republicans willing to vote"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "for my bill in defiance of his"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "opposition. Then he realized, okay, I"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "don't want that. So he said, \"I'll sign"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "the bill.\" The only thing that'll get"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "him to release these files is a Maria"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "says, \"Look, we're with you on a lot of"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "things. We voted for you three times. We"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "disagree with Kana on Medicare for all."}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "We disagree with him on Venezuela. We"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "disagree with him on uh on on calling"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "ICE. We're with you, Mr. President. But"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "you know what? This MAGA, this Epstein"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "stuff, he's right about that. Release"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "these files. That's what we need. his"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "base needs to demand this off of. They"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "are though. They are. Am I missing"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "something? They are. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "they've been vocal. Not to the point"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "where where he thinks that he could lose"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "them. I mean, they he thinks, okay,"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "they're upset on this one thing. They"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "need to say like this is a red line for"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "us because"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "you told us there were pedophiles in"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "part of the government. You told us"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "they're rich and powerful people who are"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "corrupt. You said you were going to"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "drain the swamp. You never pre pretended"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "to be a perfect person. We knew, you"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "know, okay, like many people, you had"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "warts in your life, but you were going"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "to clean up the system. You were going"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "to expose the system. You haven't done"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "that. Do that. That that that that"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "whether it's Vance or Trump, they've got"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "to get these files out. And they they"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "think it's, you know, it's not the"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "central issue. The cost of living is an"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "issue, affordability is an issue. I get"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "all of that, but there's something"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "deeper. There's something called"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "morality. There's something called uh"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "country's values. That's what this is"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "getting at."}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": ">> They know this is they know this is a"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "big deal. They're Oh man, it makes me so"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "[ __ ] angry."}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "How many How many How many abusers do"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "you think were involved? Do you know? I"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "think there are two types of three types"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "of abusers."}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "the ones who actually"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "raped underage girls."}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "I would say maybe at least"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "a dozen or a handful. I mean, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "saying that that's the the the biggest"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "number, but I there are people from from"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "just conversations with survivors. We'll"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "know once the files are out. The second"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "people who showed up at these parties"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "and saw young girls parading around and"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "knew they were being abused and didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "say anything. That number is in the"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "hundreds and covered it up. And then the"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "third is people who were trafficking"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "girls who were slightly overage 1920"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "and being exploited who may have been"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "raped as when they were underage and"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "saying, \"Okay, yeah, do you have a girl"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "for me? where do I meet her? And"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "technically, it was uh over the age of"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "consent, but anyone who looks at that"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "will know they were abusing these girls"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "in terms of the emotional, physical"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "damage to to to to these girls. And all"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "of that is in the files."}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": ">> Jeez. How long was this going on?"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:54", "text": ">> Decades."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:55", "text": ">> Decades."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:56", "text": ">> Decades."}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:58", "text": ">> 20, 30 years."}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:00", "text": ">> 20, 30 years. That's why when people"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "they do the gotcha question sometimes."}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "Oh, Ro, you you guys didn't speak out"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "about this enough in the Biden"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "administration. And first of all, I did"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "speak out in 2019. But second, I say,"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "\"Yeah, we should have. We were wrong."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "This country has been asleep.\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "that's not a that's not a uh a a a"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "reason not to care now. Now I've gotten"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "to know these survivors. Like, yeah, all"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "of us were guilty for 25 years uh other"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "than a few journalists for not caring,"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "for abandoning these girls. Fine. guilty"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "is charged. Now, let's move on. Let's"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "actually do something about it and get"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "these files out. And that that that"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "that's the honest truth. Like, this is"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "not a Trump thing or a Vance thing. This"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "is an America thing. It's a crisis that"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "the we didn't care about these girls. We"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "treat them treated them as abandoned"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "property for the gratification of of of"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "rich and powerful people. And they"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "didn't matter. How how was I mean we"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "know how we know a lot of ways he was"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "tied to Israel. He was an Israeli."}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "Maxwell's dad was involved with MSAD. I"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "mean he wears an IDF shirt and a bunch"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "of the photos that were released. So we"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "know that he's tied to Israel. How was"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "he tied to Russia?"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "There are survivors accounts again"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "without specific names. are talking"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "about Russian oligarchs who were"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "involved in coming to the island uh who"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "were uh involved in the trafficking."}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "There are accounts about him having"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "access to Putin uh and being able to"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "facilitate meetings with Putin in some"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "of the documents. So, he obviously had"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "ties to both the oligarchs in Russia uh"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "and to people close to Putin. And th"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "those are that that needs to be"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "explored. I mean it under like what why"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "wouldn't you want to know if there these"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "other countries that have access to the"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "most powerful people in our country and"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "are getting information about that"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": ">> because it exposes them. That's the only"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "thing I can think of. Am I missing"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "anything with the ties to Israel?"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": ">> Look, I I I think you're right that"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "there there's there are obviously ties."}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "I've tried to be, you know, Massie and I"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "have tried to be careful in that, you"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "know, we want we don't want to stoke"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "something uh unnecessarily, but uh there"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "it needs to be it needs to be examined"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "and we need to get get the facts out and"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "that that that the fact that the fact"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "that foreign governments are involved uh"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "every lawyer of the survivors uh who"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "I've talked to and many survivors have"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "said that that is the case. So, let's"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "figure out the facts, man. Man, what am"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "I missing? What should I be asking you"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "that I'm not asking about the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "files right now?"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:58", "text": ">> How do we actually get them out? Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "I I'd say this. Look, there going to be"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "a number of dates in January where"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "they're going to do a document release."}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "And so far, people have been paying"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "attention. Every time they've done a"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "document release, the server has crashed"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "because so many people are looking at"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "the documents. And every time they do"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "that, they think, \"Okay, we're done.\""}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "people are satisfied, they can move on."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "Don't let them move on. Every time they"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "do a document release, if it's not"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "actually the things there, speak out."}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "Speak out on social media. Tag Bondi,"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "tag Blanchard, tag Vance, tag Massie,"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Marjorie, Taylor Green, me, Bober. Say"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "we want this information out. That's the"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "only thing that that you you say like,"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "is Ma is Massie in my contempt going to"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "work? We'll try. Is it is future"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "prosecution going to work? We'll try."}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "It's when the American people speak out."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "That's why I flew down here. That's why"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "I came here because I know you've got a"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "lot of people following this. You've"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "been on this before even I or Massie"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "were on this. You've been speaking about"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "this for years. Your audience cares"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "about this. We need them to continue to"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "fight for it."}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": ">> They're going to be pissed. Ro, let's"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "take a quick break. When we come back,"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "we'll get into uh some roadblock stuff."}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:09", "text": ">> Sounds good."}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": ">> Perfect."}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "New year, big goals, and not a lot of"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "time to cook. And that's why I've been"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "using Factor. Factor are meals that are"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "sent right to your front door, designed"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "by chefs and dieticians so that you can"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "eat well without going to the store or"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "cooking. What I like most is what goes"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "into the food. 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I think we've pretty much wrapped"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "up the Epstein stuff, but I I do want to"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "ask you, I mean, you've talked to a lot"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "of these victims. You've talked to their"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "attorneys. You are their champion. What"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "What do these victims want to see"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "happen? What do these poor girls that"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "have been [ __ ] raped over and over"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "and over and over again? What do they"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "want?"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "They want to be seen and heard. That's"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "why some of them cared about the law"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "passing. Some people said, \"First time I"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "actually felt heard and seen by the"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "American people.\""}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "Many of them want to meet the president"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "to explain to him what happened so they"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "have some sense that they're not being"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "just labeled as a hoax. They they've"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "asked that can they go meet with him? Uh"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "they want the people who abused them or"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "stayed quiet to be publicly exposed and"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "to be held accountable. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "buildings named after them. They don't"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "want them to see them on television"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "being celebrated. They don't want to be"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "see them at powerful positions and"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "corporations. And they want the"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "prosecution. I mean, the prosecution is"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "the hardest part. They're not naive."}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "They think that may be the hardest part,"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "but they want some sense of"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "acknowledgment by this country that what"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "happened to them was wrong and"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "disgusting."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:56", "text": ">> Do you think they'll ever see that?"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "I do think that the House and Senate"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "passing that was a a big moment for"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "survivors. If you watch the footage of"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "them in tears and feeling heard and by"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "the way for sexual assault survivors"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "around the country saying finally the"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "government waking up and actually saying"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "that there's a problem in this country."}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "But I think it will be a betrayal of all"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "of that if these files remain stuck. And"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "until these files are released and"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "they're released fully and we have some"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "sense of accountability as a country, uh"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "they're going to feel abandoned. There"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "needs to be a reckoning, a sense of that"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "that that of of of justice and uh before"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "we can have people moving on and"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "healing."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:45", "text": ">> Mhm. Do you are you are you at all"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "worried about the repercussions if it is"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "fully disclosed? I mean a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "think that the that the entire country's"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "power structure will be decimated. A lot"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "of people think that the entire world"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "power structure will be decimated"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "because so many people are involved in"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "this. Do you have any fear about that?"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "That the that the power structure will"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "be in rubble because they were so many"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "were involved with this."}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> I think if it had hap if this had been"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "released 15 years ago, yes. But I think"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "some of these people are no longer"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "actively in power. They're towards the"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "end of their careers. Uh they just want"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "this to to go away. Uh so now I think it"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "can be uh exposed uh without that kind"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "of disruption. But will it uh cause"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "an enormous moral reckoning in this"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "country? I think we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "embarrassed and shocked and angry and"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "disgusted with ourselves as a people"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "that we allowed it to happen. I think"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "it's going to cause us to re-examine"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "uh potentially relationships around the"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "world and what we what we allowed to"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "take place. I think it's going to force"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "us to reexamine the power that rich and"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "powerful people have in this country"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "over the justice system and uh a sense"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "that there are elites who've gotten away"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "with things you and I can't. Right? Most"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "people they get a parking ticket, they"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "get a camera light ticket and their car"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "will get booted if they don't pay the"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "tickets. Right? That's the life for 95%"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "of Americans. And then you got these 5%"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "who are doing the most heinous things"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "and laughing about it."}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": ">> Man, let's move on to roadblocks."}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": ">> Another topic of uh not inspiration,"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "huh?"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:32", "text": ">> You're doing the right thing. Sounds"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "like you're the only one doing the right"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "thing over there."}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": ">> Are you Is it true that you're the first"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "and only congressman to go up against"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "Roblox?"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": ">> I was because of this kid Schlle who you"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "know. He showed so much courage. He was"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "basically a whistleblower, right? I"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "mean, there are people on uh Roblox who"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "were"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "acting as predators, pedophiles, taking"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "advantage of kids or playing games. And"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "there was not"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:01", "text": ">> still happening."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:03", "text": ">> Still happening."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:05", "text": ">> Not was still happening."}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:07", "text": ">> But but still happening when he started."}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "Well, he's been kicked off the the the"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "platform, which is why he's used the"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "past tense. It's still happening. But he"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "was kicked off because he was going out"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "and he was exposing these folks because"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "Roblox wasn't doing it. And no one was"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "listening to him and he was basically"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "kicked off the platform for doing this."}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "And so as a guy from Silicon Valley, I"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "said, \"This is crazy, you know, cuz the"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "company's in my area.\" And I said, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "gonna come to this 21-year-old kid's"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "defense.\" And people said, \"What are you"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "doing? You're gonna take on I mean the"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "these billionaire founders?\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "\"Yeah, I don't care. I took the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "class. is who cares about this?"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:44", "text": ">> Good [clears throat] for you."}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": ">> You know, and so I we we we did a"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "petition to support what Schleup was"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "doing and saying he should be reinstated"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "onto the in in Roblox. I mean, they've"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "kicked him out. I mean, let let's let"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "him back on onto the platform. And let's"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "have transparency of what are you doing"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "to make sure that you don't have"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "pedophiles and predators on your"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "platform preying on 12, 13, 14y old"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "kids."}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:12", "text": ">> Is he back on there? He's not not not"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "not yet."}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "But he, you know, all he was doing is"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "saying, \"Okay, I'm going to expose this"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "guy who's a creepy old guy, uh, having"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "conversations with a young girl, young"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "boy, and cuz Roblox is not doing it.\""}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "And so the response to that is to kick"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "him off. I mean, come on. And all he's"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "fighting for is safety standards. I"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "mean, you would your kids are on these"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "platforms. They're playing games. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "He just doesn't want a 12-year-old girl"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "to be exploited sexually and have to"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "carve [ __ ] into her forehead with razor"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "blades."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:48", "text": ">> Seriously,"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:49", "text": ">> that's the kind of [ __ ] they're doing on"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "there. Did you know that?"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:52", "text": ">> I didn't know that example. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "know that one, but I know they're doing"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:57", "text": ">> There's a bunch of these. They've had"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "women, not excuse, girls, young girls"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "swallow razor blades."}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": ">> They had one commit suicide on camera."}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "That's disgusting."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:09", "text": ">> It's disgusting, isn't it? We did we"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "uncovered a lot of this uh about a month"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "ago, two months ago with Ryan"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "Montgomery. The day we released the"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "episode, it took one week $6 billion off"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "their stock"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:21", "text": ">> in one week"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": ">> because of this because of this episode,"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:24", "text": ">> you know. I mean, that's that that's why"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "you should have Schlle on. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "if you've had him on, but he"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": ">> we're talking to him."}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> Yeah. But he, you know, he's uh he's"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "showed courage. And the the reality is,"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "look, if you're a 44, 45, 50 year old"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "guy and you're talking to a 13-year-old"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "girl online, I'm that's unacceptable."}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "Like, that's my like, you know, if"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "you're a coach or something, fine. But"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "there's no reason for a 50-year-old guy"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "to be talking to a 13-year-old girl in a"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "gaming site."}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:55", "text": ">> So, how hard is this to detect? Like,"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "they're like, \"Well, we don't know if"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "it's pedophilia.\" You don't have to have"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "like people swallowing razors. Just you"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "can't be talking to young girls being a"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "45-year-old guy on a gaming site. You"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "can't be talking to young boys like what"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "the hell are you doing on there? And"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "that's going on and it's rampant and"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "they hide behind, well, how do we know?"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "Well, you know, based on common sense,"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "if you wouldn't allow your own daughter"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "to hang out with someone in a a room"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "unsupervised"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "uh playing a game, then you shouldn't be"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "allowing it online. Yeah, I want to"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "clarify too that's not happening on"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "Roblox. It's that 764 satanic cult"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "that's that's that's that's that's"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "pursuing the kids on Roblox, pulling"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "them off and they're doing it in these"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "chat rooms and stuff."}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:46", "text": ">> But Ryan has showed me"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "tons of stuff that's going on on there."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:53", "text": ">> just horrific. It's all censored. But"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "well, and look, this is the"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "responsibility of technology companies,"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "right? It's there's a lot of positives"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "to allowing people to get information,"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "being on social media, but you can't"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "have exploitation. You can't have"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "pedophilia, you can't have pornography,"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "you can't be having algorithms feed junk"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "uh on social media to young girls where"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "they're thinking of eating disorders or"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "suicide. And we've allowed a lot of the"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "social media to get out of hand. and not"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "protect our kids. And I'm the guy who"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "represents Silicon Valley. I'm for"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "innovation. I'm for technology. But I'm"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "But you do that with common sense that"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "you protect kids"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:35", "text": ">> on these platforms."}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "Speaking of Silicon Valley, how about"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "that uh billionaire tax? How's that"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "going?"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:44", "text": ">> I got I've gotten quite a lot of hot"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "water with that one. You know what I"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "found out though? You know who was the"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "first person to propose one of these"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "taxes? One of the few first people,"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "Donald Trump, when he was running for"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "president in 2000, he called for a 14.5%"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "tax on anyone making over $10 million."}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "And he said, \"If you're wealthy, uh, you"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "can pay a tax.\" And, uh, you know, he"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "since I don't know what he thinks now,"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "but my point is this. Look, I'm all for"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "entrepreneurs and I'm all for people"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "making billions of dollars. Fine. you"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "you're brilliant like uh Steve Jobs or"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "you and build Apple great you build"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "Tesla SpaceX great I once said to Elon"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "stick the cars and Mars or something you"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "build all that wealth fine but we've got"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "to have a social contract in this"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "country where the wealth can't just be"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "in the hands of the few you've got to"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "have some sense that every person"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "workingass families are going to benefit"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "from that and you get people having"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "healthcare child care education that's"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "that's my view Well, I mean,"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "I'm not going to disagree with you and"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "say that there is a I mean, there's"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "definitely a there is a there is a gap"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "here and it's a [ __ ] problem. But, I"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "mean"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "I mean, if you just look at history,"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "every time this happens, the"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "billionaires I mean, the the business"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "owners, they just leave. They go"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "somewhere else and then there are no"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "jobs. And so, and it sounds like that's"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "what they're going to do if this tax"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "goes through. So,"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:21", "text": ">> well, I think we have it has to be"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "designed in a way that you can't tax"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "illquid stocks. You can't tax companies"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "that are still not profitable. You've"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "got to get conversations with people who"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "want to design it in a reasonable way uh"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "and have a consensus on how to do it."}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "So, I'm not saying that the the the that"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "you can't fix some of the design, but"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "ultimately the idea that having just a"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "1% tax a year, I mean, in a theory on uh"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "building wealth when you're you make"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "about 10% every year anyway in the stock"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "market and that you're going to use that"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "to make sure people have healthcare and"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "child care and education. I just think"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "that's what's going to prevent a"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "revolution. You know, think about the"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "guys who went in Venezuela, right? And"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "and like they they they stick the"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "landing despite being shot at. They wear"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "the uniform."}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "They give every single thing for this"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "country. And you're saying to me, okay,"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "if you're going to, let's say, in a"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "countrywide have a 1% tax on wealth that"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "people are going to leave, like come on,"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "have some more patriotism. Have some"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "loyalty to the country."}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": ">> I mean, just a a caveat to that. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "what are you going to spend the money"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "on? Where's the money going to go? I"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "mean, look at our [ __ ] cities, bro."}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "Look at Chicago, St. Louis, San"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "Francisco, LA, New York."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:43", "text": ">> Tons of Minnesota right now. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "look at all this [ __ ] Our our cities"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "are [ __ ] trashed. We have a fentanyl"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "problem."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:51", "text": ">> I mean, and where's all the money going?"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "It sure as [ __ ] isn't going into this"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "country. You know where it's going? It's"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "going to Ukraine. It's going to Israel."}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "It's going to fight war in Venezuela."}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "It's going It's going everywhere but"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "here. And we all see it. Everybody"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "[ __ ] sees it. Everybody sees another"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "billion, another another another"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "more billions allotted to Ukraine, more"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "billions allotted to Israel, more"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "billions allotted to whatever. You know,"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "it's just it's it everything seems to go"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "out of the country. So why would any"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "business owner want to pay more tax just"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "to have it shipped out of the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "country?"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:31", "text": ">> Well, there I agree with you about the"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "waste and the"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": ">> look at the [ __ ] that just happened with"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "the with the the the learning centers"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "and nine supposedly $9 billion."}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:43", "text": ">> I'm not going to defend the waste and"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "the fraud. two things sucked out of the"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "country and then I mean on top of that I"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "mean Scott Bessant just said yesterday"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "that there's approximately $600 billion"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "in fraud in the US. I mean don't you"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "think we might want to get a handle on"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "that before we tax everybody more or tax"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "the wealth the wealthy more."}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": ">> I I think we absolutely need to get a"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "handle both on the overseas wars. I mean"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "we spent $6 trillion on Iraq and"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "Afghanistan. I'm against these kind of"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "regime change wars. I'm against going"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "and trying to do regime change in"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "Venezuela. And now what do we want to"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "occupy the country for three years?"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "Think about how much that's going to"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "cost. I voted against the billions of"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "dollars that we gave Netanyahu when he"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "was slaughtering people in Gaza. I was"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "opposed, of course, to October 7th as a"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "terrorist attack in Hamas. But uh we"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "can't just be giving billions of dollars"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "of offensive weapons for two years to to"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "Netanyahu. And I do believe that we need"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "to stop uh a military budget of these"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "endless wars. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:45", "text": ">> here's a great analogy."}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:48", "text": ">> You're a dad."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:50", "text": ">> If your kids are [ __ ] starving to"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "death,"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:53", "text": ">> what and somebody gives you and and why"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "would you give your money to your"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "neighbors so that your neighbors kids"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "can eat instead of yours? Why would you"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "do that?"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:02", "text": ">> Yeah. No. I look, I think we have to"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "first take care of our"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": ">> starving people here. We have people"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "that are dying of fentanyl every day. We"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "have, [sighs]"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> you know, been around to."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:13", "text": ">> So, so look, and Argentina, we're"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "bailing out Argentina's failed"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "leadership. I'm all for focusing on uh"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "not these endless wars, uh not uh"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "wasting money overseas, focusing on"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "building our communities, and I'm also"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "for getting rid of the fra fraud, waste,"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "and inefficiencies. FDR, who's one of my"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "favorite presidents, New Deal, he said"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "there's total local inefficiencies in"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "government, wasted money uh in uh local"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "governments, state governments. I'm"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "going to tackle that. And I'm also going"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "to tax the wealthy to get people health"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "care and and child care and jobs. I"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "think we have to do both. But I spoke"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "out on oversight yesterday uh about the"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "fraud that was going on in in in in"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "Minnesota and other places. I wasn't"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "like, \"Okay, let's just defend it.\" I"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "said, \"Let's do an audit on all 50"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "states."}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": ">> Look at the inefficiency spending in"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "Sacramento. Look at it in uh in in"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "Minnesota, but look at it at all 50"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "states and let's have an audit. Let's"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "understand why we wasted money. Why did"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "we waste money in the pandemic when"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "unemployment"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "checks were claimed as fraud and uh what"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "were the projects that are have have"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "been wasted and and have a clear"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "accountability so that people know that"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "they're where their tax dollars are"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "going and you have to do that if you"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "have my view that we want government to"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "do healthcare and childare and jobs. I"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "mean people may disagree with me that"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "that's the obligation of government but"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "I feel that people should have basic"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "education and healthcare to be able to"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "have a decent life. Uh, but I've got the"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "responsibility to to take on a fraud and"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "waste and abuse. And I don't think this"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "should be partisan. Like I don't think"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "we need to be defending wasteful,"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "inefficient government. I mean, would do"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "you would it be I I don't think I'm sure"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "a lot of people would argue, but I mean"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "I I think all in all it is better for"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "you and I and everybody in this country"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "if we have a better education system. So"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "I mean I can't I can't argue that. I"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "don't I don't want my taxes to go up. I"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "don't want to [ __ ] pay for it. But"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "yes, I can't I can't argue that it would"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "be great if everybody had healthcare and"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "and it was actually affordable. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "but I mean, would it be I mean, is it"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "even a possibility to just think and go,"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "you know what, we're not going to tax"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "them anymore. Let's get this waste,"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "fraud, and abuse under control and"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "reallocate those funds to what you want"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "to do. I mean, why couldn't we do it"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "like that rather than penalize the Cuz"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "look, I'm I'm a business owner, Ro. I"}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "bust my [ __ ] ass to make what I have."}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "I'm I mean,"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:51", "text": ">> 12 to 18 hour days. I know you are"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:52", "text": ">> every day, 7 days a week. My team works"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "their ass off."}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:57", "text": ">> I don't want to pay for everybody else's"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "[ __ ] I have a drive. I'm, you know, and"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "and it takes a lot of work and I do not"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "want to pay for somebody else to sit on"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "their ass at home. It just"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:07", "text": ">> But did you I don't know your story of"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "Did you go to public school or did you"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": ">> I did go to public school."}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:12", "text": ">> So did I. Right. You went a decent"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "public school for everyone. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "about you. I had teachers who believed"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "in me and paved the way. Uh I was grew"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "up in a middle class family, but I"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "didn't have to worry about being able to"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "see a doctor, get a physical. Uh you"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "know, I just want the basics. And the"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "reality is I mean by being honest about"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "the math is yes, we need to go about"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "waste and fraud. I don't think the math"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "works to be able to get health care for"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "everyone and to be able to get a decent"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "education for everyone, trade schools or"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:45", "text": "college. Uh if you just do that without"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "having the extraordinary wealthy pay a"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "bit more in tax. Look, my district where"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "you get you have more people on for my"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "district than anyone"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:54", "text": ">> probably."}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:57", "text": ">> We've we've got $18 trillion of wealth."}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "Onethird of America's wealth is in my 50"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "mile radius district. Five companies"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "over a trillion dollars. Nvidia, uh,"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "Google, Apple, uh, the Tesla, and"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "Broadcom. And they asked Jensen, the"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "Nvidia CEO, he said, \"Yeah, okay, fine."}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "I'll pay a tax or something. I love"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "living in Silicon Valley.\" Whatever you"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "think about the design of this tax, you"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "can't have a nation where you've got"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "some places with $18 trillion. And then"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "where I grew up in Pennsylvania in Bucks"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "County, the steel mill, Fair Fearless"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "Works shut down in western Pennsylvania."}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "Hollowed out factories all going over to"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "China or Mexico. People feeling like"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "their kids and grandkids aren't going to"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "have a shot at the American dream. Like"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "that's not a country that works. So why"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "can't you say, \"Okay, we've got to get"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "this prosperity not just in Silicon"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "Valley, not just in the AI revolution."}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "We need to industrialize America. Have a"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "Marshall plan for America. Build up new"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "factories and industry. Build up new"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "trade schools. Build up new tech centers"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "and jobs across the country. Have"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "healthcare and basic public education"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "for the country. That's what I call"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "economic patriotism. It's to build up"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "this country. And I I don't think that's"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "a bad bet long term because it's saying"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "that we want prosperity, but a basic"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "shot for everyone in this country."}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:13", "text": ">> Mhm. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "It'd be great. I'd just love to see the"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "waste, fraud, and abuse gone first"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "before we all have to pay more taxes."}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "But"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:23", "text": ">> that's just me and everybody else."}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:25", "text": ">> The uh let let me ask you this though."}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "Yeah. I don't know if you're a"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "billionaire now. You don't have to tell"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "me."}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:30", "text": ">> I'm definitely not a billionaire. But if"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "you if you became when you become a"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "billionaire, if you thought that the"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "money was actually going positively,"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "right, like for actually building"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "factories in western Pennsylvania or"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "jobs for kids in Warren, Ohio,"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:44", "text": ">> wrote, if I knew the money was going to"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "the right place, I would do it."}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:47", "text": ">> You would do it."}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:48", "text": ">> I would do it. But I don't believe the"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "money is going to go to the right place."}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:54", "text": ">> I donate a lot of money to kids. this"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "kind of stuff that we're talking about."}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:59", "text": ">> Organizations that are doing something"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "to protect kids. That's that's the thing"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "that's nearest and dearest to my heart."}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "I spend a lot of time and donate a lot"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "of money to veteran organizations"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "because I'm a veteran. No."}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:12", "text": ">> But and I would I I donate to single"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "mothers. That's another thing that's"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "that's near and dear to my heart. But so"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "I I still do my part. I'm not the I'm"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "not the I'm not the [ __ ] that's, you"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "know, keeping all everything. I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "I'm I care about people. I want people"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "to succeed. I want them to be"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "successful. I want them to get over"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "their trauma. I want I just I love good"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "people. But, you know, when I when I see"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "all this stuff, when I see"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "illegals being housed in in in in hotels"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "and I see the Somali stuff that we just"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "was just uncovered by uh by"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "by by Nick, you know, I mean, it it's"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "it's just like, man, I just when I see"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "another couple of billion go to another"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "country, I'm like, man, why the"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:13:59", "text": ">> man Chicago? This place looks like a"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "[ __ ] war zone. Why are we sending"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "money overseas? I mean, yeah, I would"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "love to help all the people overseas,"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "but look at this place. This is where we"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "live."}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:10", "text": ">> No, that I agree with you. We're wasting"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "all this money on Argentina and"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "Venezuela. We should be focusing more on"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "Virginia and Pennsylvania and Ohio and"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "people here. But let me ask you your"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "genuine view because I know you're, you"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "know, a little bit more conservative"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "than I have. We used to have a national"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "aspiration, a national project of doing"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "great things as Americans, right? Uh we"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "won World War II. We built up uh Europe"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "with the Marshall Plan. We built up our"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "own industry and doing amazing things."}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "We uh won the Cold War. We went to the"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "moon. We started the internet through"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "DARPA and NSF. We invented GPS. We"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "invented AI through the government. How"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "do we convince people that you can have"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "public excellence again? that you can"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "have national projects that work again,"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "that you can have a sense that we can"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "all do something with government that"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "makes life better. Because I agree with"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "you, right now people think it's corrupt"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "with Epstein. They waste money. But you"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "can't have a great nation if people"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "don't believe it's possible to do great"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "things with our government. And and"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "we've lost that ability or faith other"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "than the military. People are like,"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "\"Okay, we've got a great military, but"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "how do we have that more broadly as a"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "national aspiration?\" I'll tell you, we"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "have to have trust in you guys, and"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "that's at an all-time low. And we have"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "to have trust in the institutions, and"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "that's at an all-time low. And I think"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "you'd know why all of those are at an"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "all-time low, because"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "exactly exactly what you're fighting"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "right now. A lot of stuff that happened"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "within the last administration and the"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "one before that, the one before that."}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "But I mean, we have we just we haven't"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "seen any of these agencies uh be held"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "accountable for going rogue. We haven't"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "seen any politicians held accountable"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "for going rogue. I mean, and and so why"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "would any of us believe you? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:06", "text": ">> Ro, I'll just just going to be honest."}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "It's so [ __ ] bad now. I don't even"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "think I'm going to vote the next time"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "because what's the point? What's the"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "point?"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:13", "text": ">> I sat there and interviewed everybody."}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "They all [ __ ] lied to my face."}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "Nothing has happened. Let me let me"}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "challenge you, Sean. Look,"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:22", "text": ">> we've had people who scaled the cliffs"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "of Normandy, right? So you and I could"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "be free."}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:27", "text": ">> John Lewis was beaten on the Edmond"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "Pettis Bridge. My grandfather, he was an"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "American. He was in India. He was part"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "of Gandhi's movement for independence."}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "He was in jail for four years so that"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "India could be a free country so my"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "parents could come here. There are so"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "many people who have sacrificed for this"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "country to build this country. You did"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "when you wore the uniform. We can't give"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "up out of cynicism on the American"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "project. It's like we have been so"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "blessed with people who have sacrificed"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "so much more. And to say, \"Look, it's"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "all corrupt. We're going to give up.\" Is"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "to squander the sacrifices of people who"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "built America."}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:09", "text": ">> I'm I hear you. I mean, I'm I"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> get up and run for Congress. Get up and"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:12", "text": ">> I'm not running for Congress. I've I've"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "thought about it."}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:16", "text": ">> Run for president. I mean, run for run."}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "You know, you you know, you never know."}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "There was another guy who didn't have"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "elective office who did pretty well."}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:24", "text": ">> I think I'm good on I actually thought"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "about it, but um"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:26", "text": ">> you would be great."}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:28", "text": ">> Well, the people that I thought that I"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "talked to about it that are in there"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "said that I I have a lot more influence"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "out here than I ever"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:38", "text": ">> That's that is true. That is true. You"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "do. But you but look the the anyone"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "I'm not saying this a lot of people it's"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "easy to tear things down."}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "The harder thing is how do we build it"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "up? And you got a huge platform. We have"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "to have trust though. I mean when I have"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "I don't even know how many politicians"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "I've had sit across from me, you know,"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "over the years. And"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "man, I can't think of a single one of"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "them that got in there and did what they"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "said they were going to do. Maybe even"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "attempted to do what they say they were"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "going to do."}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:09", "text": ">> That's a uh that's sad."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:11", "text": ">> It is [ __ ] sad."}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:12", "text": ">> How do you assess my honesty here? We"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "got [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "to see"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:16", "text": ">> because you're going against the grain."}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:18", "text": ">> Well, Mass Bassie and I are willing to"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "see we're willing to risk our seats,"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "right? Whatever you think."}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:23", "text": ">> And you're coming together with with"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "with with the enemy or you know."}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:27", "text": ">> Not the enemy. You know what I mean? I"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "mean, it's been very divisive. And so,"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "you know, that's and that's one thing"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "that I've been trying to display here."}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "That's why I brought Gavin Newsome on."}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "That's why I brought Hunter Biden on. I"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "want to show that, hey, we we can have a"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "conversation. We have to try to kill."}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:39", "text": ">> I didn't know Hunter was that smart till"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "I heard about [laughter] your thing. I"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "was like, cuz he was so caricatured in"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "the media. Then I was like, wow, the guy"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "has like complex thoughts. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "Probably going to get in trouble from"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "Hunter. But I was like, first time I"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "heard him was on on uh your show where"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "like and he and he held his own. So, you"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "did him a big big favor."}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:58", "text": ">> Might like them. You might like him."}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": ">> Might like that. That that that that"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "thing went went uh went viral. But look,"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "I I think we need people like you to to"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "participate in the political process to"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "help to rebuild the process because the"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "the thing that concerns me about China,"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "I was just in China. I'm now the top"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "Democrat on the China committee. They"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "got 20% youth unemployment. They don't"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "have nearly, in my view, the kind of"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "innovation that we do, uh, or the sense"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "of having the best and brightest from"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "around the world want to come to"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "America. They're not lining up to go to"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "China. They're lining up to come to the"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "United States of America. So, what is"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "our problem? Our problem is cynicism and"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "corrosiveness and division where we give"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "up on the government and we give up on"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "uh our ability to self-govern. And"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "that's a real risk. Like, okay, we did"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "Epstein, the files aren't coming out. We"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "aren't being able to stop money in"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "politics. We're see all this waste and"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "fraud. If we give up on having a"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "national purpose, national aspiration,"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "we lose this country. And I and I don't"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "know how that to me is the hardest thing"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "to fight. It's like I could tell you the"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "programs I'm for, but how do we overcome"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "the despair, the anger, the cynicism?"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "How do we inspire this country the way"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "whether you were with John F. Kennedy or"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "FDR Lincoln Reagan who I disagreed with?"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "H how do we create that sense of like"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "yeah I want America to succeed. You know"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "I felt like that the last time I felt"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:32", "text": ">> going to have to prove to the people"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "that it's not a two-tiered class system."}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:35", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:37", "text": ">> that's how it's and that is likely the"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "only way it's going to happen."}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "Somebody's ass is going to have to get"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "pinned to the [ __ ] wall and we're all"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "going to have to see it to believe that"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "there is not a two-tiered system. But"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "there is a two-tiered system. It's very"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "obvious. You're seeing it right now."}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "Yeah. And that's what the Epstein class"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "is all about. It's one set of rules for"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "the powerful. And by the way, look what"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "they did to this country, right?"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "Symbolically, not just the people who"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "were pedophiles, but this Epstein class"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "of rich and powerful people. They"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "watched as jobs left America. All the"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "industries hollowed out. They didn't"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "care. Profits were going up. They their"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "shareholders were doing fine. They"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "watched as people's costs of healthcare"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "went up. Child care went up. They"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "watched as"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "70% of Americans don't think the"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "American dream matters. They got us in"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "all these wars overseas and didn't make"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "us safer. So people have had it with"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "that class of folks. They want something"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "new. They want something different. They"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "want people who are going to take on a"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "corrupt elite. And I think that's why"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "I'm saying we need people like you or"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "others in your show to get out there,"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:52", "text": "run, get start to take the government"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "back and to have a sense of"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "transparency, not fraud, not standing up"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "against a corrupt elite, and then"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "offering a sense of a vision for what we"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "can do as as as a as a country."}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "We've all seen it. The Department of War"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "is operating in a world that's changing"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "faster than ever. That's why so many"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "guests on my show talk about the"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "importance of continued innovation and"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "technology in the military. But here's"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "the problem. Working with the Department"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "of War can be complex. For many"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "companies, the process isn't always"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "transparent. It's hard to know who the"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "right stakeholders are, where the"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "decisions are made, or how funding"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "actually moves. Even when you get the"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "right conversation started, you often"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "hear the same responses. We like the"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "technology, but funding is already"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "allocated or check back next fiscal"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "year. That leaves a lot of capable teams"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "with strong products, but no clear path"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "forward. 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Support the mission and"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "become part of the Shawn Ryan Show's"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "story."}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "I mean, even guys that I have that are"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "in I mean really I am very good friends"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "with Eli Crane."}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:40", "text": ">> Don't agree with everything he says. I"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "love the man because I think that he"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "holds true to his values and his"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "constituents values."}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:49", "text": ">> Yeah. In fact, I know for a fact he's"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "even voted against what he wants to"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "appease his constituents, which I"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:59", "text": "have a tremendous amount of respect for."}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "But I mean, I see these guys and I mean,"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "there's a handful of SEALs in Congress."}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:05", "text": "I'm a SEAL. It's tight-knit community,"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "right? But, you know, and and and other"}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "veterans, too. Green, especially the"}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "special operations guys. But"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:18", "text": ">> I mean, they are so except one seal."}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "There's one guy in there. But um but um"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "but no, seriously, I mean, they are they"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "are they are frustrated. I can see it on"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "their face. They I mean, they're"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "demoralized."}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:37", "text": ">> Yeah, I I I I hear that cuz they there's"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "a different sense of camaraderie. It's"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "not just I think the folks in the the"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "Seals are"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:43", "text": ">> they can't get on a committee if they"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "don't play ball. Yeah. They all they"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "care about I don't know about all of"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "them but you know the few that I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "speaking about that I'm close with are I"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "mean they're they just want to do the"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "right thing and they can't"}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:25:59", "text": ">> and"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "it's sad. It's sad."}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:04", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I mean I I I hear that. I mean"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "one we need term limits I think in these"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:07", "text": ">> four term limits."}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": ">> I am. I'm one of the few Democrats I"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "worked with Brian Fitzpatrick and Jody"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "Arrington. I don't think you should do"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "more than 12 years as a house member or"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "two terms as a senator. Some people"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "there 30 40 years. Come on, do something"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "else with your life. Uh I think we got"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "to get rid of all the pack money and"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "lobbyist money. Super PAC money."}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:28", "text": ">> I'd love to see that."}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:29", "text": ">> You know those two things you do."}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:30", "text": ">> You don't take any pack."}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:32", "text": ">> I don't take pack money. I don't take"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "lobbyist money. I don't have a super"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "PAC. You know, you just get rid of pack"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "money, lobbyist money. create term"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "limits and you make sure members of"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "Congress can't become lobbyists. You"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "know, I've been on the Armed Services"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "Committee for 10 years and I didn't"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "serve in the in in the military, but"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "I've developed such admiration, respect"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "for people who have served, right? And"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "you know what a lot of people do after"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:57", "text": "the they're on the Armed Services"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "Committee? They don't go wear the"}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "uniform. They don't go like Theodore"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "Roosevelt to to go fight in the wars or"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "Abraham Lincoln did. they uh go and work"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "for the defense companies that they were"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "supposed to regulate as lobbyists. So,"}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "stop members of Congress from becoming"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "lobbyists. You do those three things and"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "you would clean up so much of uh our"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "country. You know, I I respect people"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "who sort of disagreed with me, let's"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "say, on on the wealth tax, but what I"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "don't respect is people saying, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "now I'm going to pour in millions of"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "dollars to take this guy out because I"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "disagree with him.\" Like how do we have"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "that kind of system of government where"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "people can use their wealth for power,"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "where people can stay in Congress for"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "years just to uh accumulate power and no"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "turbulence. There's we've got to return"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:51", "text": "to basic democracy. And people who wear"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "the uniform, you know why your guys,"}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "your friends see it most is because they"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "they sacrifice. And it's a totally"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "different culture in the military."}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "there. It's all about the mission."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "That's the difference. It's mission."}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "Mission first, ego second. Politics is"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "ego first, you know, mission second."}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:10", "text": ">> Country second."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:12", "text": ">> And I you know what? I'm tired of the"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "charismatic politicians. How about"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "courage is the new charisma? Like I"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "don't need the guy who's going to be the"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "entertainer or the charber or the like,"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "do we do we think in the military the"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "best person is the guy who's the"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "funniest or the most charming or the the"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "person who's kind of got the most"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "magnetism? No. It's the person who"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "despite being shot five times still"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "lands the mission. The person who cares"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "more about the guys in his uh battalion"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "than his old life. How about we start to"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "get people of courage and substance in"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "politics? It is not their ideas. It's"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "not their intellect. It's not their"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "degrees. Frankly, it's just courage and"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "putting people first instead of putting"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "themselves first. And that that's the"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "culture of the military actually in"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "terms of what works. There are no big"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "egos. It's all about the mission. And"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "that's what we've lost in our politics."}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "We don't The last time we had a mission,"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "I disagreed with the war in Iraq. But"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "the last time I really felt that was"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "when George W. Bush after 9/11 was"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "saying, you know, the rocks and he's"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "like, those people who did this to us,"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:21", "text": "they're going to hear from us. It was a"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "sense of okay, like I I remember I was"}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "that they stopped the Flyers game"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "because I was grew up in Philadelphia to"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "hear the president of the United States"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "talk about what this country was going"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "to do. Like how do we get that mission"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "again as a country?"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:38", "text": ">> I think I just told you,"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:40", "text": ">> but we got to see it happen. Well, I'm"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "just curious. What percentage of"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "Congress is four term limits?"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> It's not a lot. [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:49", "text": ">> I'll bet it's not a lot."}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "How many of you are there? Two or three?"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:54", "text": ">> No, they're they're they're u candidly"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "there more Republicans who are for it"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "than Democrats."}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:02", "text": ">> Why do you think that is? I'm just"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "curious. you know, the the the real"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "reason, one reason,"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "which is legitimate but changing, is um"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "when we had the Jim Crow South and when"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "it was very, very hard for uh"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "African-Americans to run for office and"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "win statewide, the only way the black"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "community would be able to gain a voice"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "is to get to Congress because they"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "couldn't win statewide and then develop"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "seniority in Congress. So some people"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "feel like, okay, finally they have a"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "voice. Now if you're going to have"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "turbulence, you're going to get rid of"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "that voice that would that that's been"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "building since the civil rights"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "movement. That's one one substantive"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "reason. But a lot of it is also"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "cultural. I think Republicans feel like,"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "you know, they do other stuff. They're"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "business owners. They're uh military."}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "Democrats have a love for public"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "service. So that's a good thing. Uh"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "because we think government can do"}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "important things. It should do important"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "things. But it could also become a sense"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "of well let other people have a turn."}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "Don't don't just do uh 40 years. You"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "know one of the reasons I was for Bernie"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "Sanders is he was an outsider. He was"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "like yeah I want a new group of people"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "in charge. It wasn't even his policies."}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "He was just like the same group of"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "people are running things. Let me break"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "up the system. And that's why you had"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "some so many people drawn to outsider"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "candidates. But yeah they're more"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "Republicans than Democrats. But I think"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "it's also generational. a new"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:27", "text": "generation, I think it'd be for turbo"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "limits. But you get rid you get turb"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "limits and you get rid of the money and"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "politics and those are the two biggest"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "things that would would clean up the the"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "system."}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:39", "text": ">> What what do you think would happen?"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "What what what do you think would happen"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "if the if the country's power struct"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "let's say the let's say all the Epstein"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "files get released, we prosecute"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "everything, you know, picture perfect,"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "everything you want and the victims."}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "power structure is gone."}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "What do you think the consequences of"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "that are?"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:03", "text": ">> Like I said, a lot of it is the older"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "older generation, but I think the"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:07", "text": "consequences of that is you would have a"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "a totally new group of people start to"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "get into our congresses and into our"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "positions of leadership. I think you"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "would have a sense of accountability,"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "like, okay, you can't just call up your"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "buddy to stop prosecution. you can't"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "just call up your buddy to have a"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "different set of rules. Uh I I think it"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "would it would start to get our country"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:29", "text": "back to the founding values of of what"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "it used to be that you got you you were"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "in public service for public service. It"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "would be a a a a reset for for America."}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:42", "text": ">> Well, I mean when we talk about hundreds"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "of people that are the abusers, I think"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "you said hundreds, right?"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:48", "text": ">> Either abu direct abusers or trafficked"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "or covered up."}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "How many people I mean do I don't know"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:53", "text": "if you have any more insight than I do"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "but"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:56", "text": ">> probably you have I mean you've studied"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "this so deep based on your stuff. I mean"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "I I the only insights I have that you"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "may not have I don't know how many"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "survivors you've talked to survivors"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "lawyers but my information that I've"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "been repeating to you is what's coming"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "from survivors from survivors lawyers."}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:11", "text": ">> Okay. Okay."}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "Do you have any indication of how many"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "people are"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:18", "text": "in politics or"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:20", "text": ">> quite a few I mean from"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": ">> I don't know how many are still in power"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "but I know there were a lot of they were"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "they were politicians who were involved"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "people in politics who went to Epstein's"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "rape island who engaged in the"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:32", "text": "trafficking of women. I think there were"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:35", "text": "a lot of people in New York in finance"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "and there were people in politics uh"}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "that that were caught up in this. Now"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:43", "text": "they they're probably formal politicians"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "by now, but uh it was a group of people"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "who didn't think even it was anything"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:49", "text": "wrong. Like they just thought this is"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "their gratification. You know, it's like"}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "uh this they they're powerful. They they"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "they they get this. They've conquered"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "and uh they're going to exploit these"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "girls and no one's going to touch them."}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "You know, the other thing is that"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "they're ruthless, right? Like most"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:09", "text": "Americans, you know, one statistic I"}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "read which surprised me is most"}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "Americans end up living 15 miles away"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "from their mom. Most people don't travel"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "that far and they settle down whether"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "it's their rural community, factory"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "town, place where they grew up. And you"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "look at this Epstein class and these"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "people and they're like, I'm in Davos,"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "I'm in Britain, I'm you like flying all"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "over the world. Where can we be Silicon"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "Valley, New York? Let's go to Epstein's"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "rape island. Like it it's just ruthless."}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "They're not they're not people going to"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "church every week. They're not going by"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "the synagogue or temple. They're not"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "going to the barbecues. They're not in"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "their PTAs. And that that's part of what"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "the country has lost. Right? When our"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:56", "text": "founders envisioned democracy, they"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "envisioned it the power with people in"}, {"start": "01:34:56", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "community. And now if you're in one of"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "those communities, so you're like the"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "little league coach who everyone loves"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "and you say, \"Okay, I want to run for"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "Congress.\" Like, what chance do you have"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "if one of these kind of"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:12", "text": "multi-millionaires or billionaires moves"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "into your district and says, \"No, I want"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "to run for Congress. I'm going to put in"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "$10 million on on uh TV.\" Like, who do"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "you think is going to get elected?"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:24", "text": ">> The billionaire. And that's the problem"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "that it's it's like the people are the"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "money has so skewed it the like you're"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "the people who are just like decent like"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "okay maybe you don't want the little"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "league coach being president of the"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "United States it's like okay president"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "of United States you got to really like"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "you you've got to know a lot of stuff"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "and I want someone who really"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "understands everything but like there"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "435 people in Congress I just want like"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "people who like love the community care"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "about the kids care about things have"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "good values I don't I don't need like"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "every person they have built a ton of"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "wealth and values like and you look at"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "Congress how many people are like that"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "who are just from the community it's all"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "people who like including me like you"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "have to raise money you have to it's a"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "it's not a it's it's a game that is so"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "rigged against ordinary people who just"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:13", "text": "love their community and want to serve"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "their community and that's a sad thing"}, {"start": "01:36:13", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "that's that's not how it was intended to"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "be"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "well how did you get in there. I lost"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "twice. You know my story. I I uh I grew"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "up son of immigrants. Uh was born in"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "Philadelphia in our bsentenery. I grew"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "went to public school, graduated with"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "like over $100,000 in debt. Fascinated"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "with Silicon Valley. Went out there"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "while you were serving in Iraq. I ran"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "against a powerful incumbent member of"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "Congress, Democrat, who had voted for"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "the war in Iraq. And I thought it was a"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "terrible mistake. and I ran against an"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "incumbent in my own party and uh he was"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "a Holocaust survivor, someone I respect,"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "but people said, \"You're gonna kill your"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "career. How can you run against this"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "guy?\" And it was the first anti-Iraq"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "war campaign in the entire country. And"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "I got killed. I got 71. He got 71%. I"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "got 19%."}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "And uh but I didn't I thought I was"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "right. I kept staying at it."}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:14", "text": ">> You were right."}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:16", "text": ">> You know, I kept at it and then uh Obama"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "won. And that's when I got my break cuz"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "I had worked on his very first campaign"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "at uh when he was a a professor at"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "University of Chicago and I was a"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "student there. I had knocked on some"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "doors and so I got to go work for him at"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "the commerce department. And then I came"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "back and I said, \"Okay, let me give it"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "one more try and I lost again.\" Why did"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "I lose twice? Cuz I didn't know all"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "these rich people. I didn't have a"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "machine, you know. I wasn't uh uh"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "related to to Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "endorsed against me three times when I"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "when I ran all three times in"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "California. California is a machine"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:53", "text": "state. You know, it's like you got to"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "know the the the the the ends. I never"}, {"start": "01:37:53", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "had anyone there. I moved there from"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "Pennsylvania. I was a son of immigrants."}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "I didn't have wealthy people parents and"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "I'm very proud of them. They have a"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "middle class life. And then I ran the"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "second time, lost. And the third time I"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "said, \"Okay, I'll try one last time.\""}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "And I won. And you know, every time I go"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "into Congress, it's one of the reasons I"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "think I have a little bit of guts"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "because I wasn't supposed to get there."}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "There was not some destiny of, you know,"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "Roana is going to go become a Congress."}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "I'm a Hindu faith, Indian-American, came"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "from a middle class background, lost"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "twice before I won. So, every day I was"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "like, I'm going to make the most of it."}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "I should actually try to do something"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "because it was a miracle that I got to"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "Congress and I want to change something"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "and do something for the country."}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:40", "text": ">> It's a good story."}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "It's a true story."}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:46", "text": ">> I wanted um"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "back to the tax issue. I'm just curious."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "do you guys run models or anything like"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "that? Were you I mean, what if you"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "lowered the taxes and attracted more"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "people to Silicon Valley? Maybe some of"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "the people that left and went to Austin."}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "I mean, have you thought about that?"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:07", "text": ">> So, that would probably bring more tax"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "money in than actually raising the"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "taxes. Well, that's that's the theory"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "that uh you know the laugher curve for"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "Reagan. I mean, I uh disagree with some"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "of it. The main thing though, I'll"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "answer your question. Main thing I think"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "that attracts people to Silicon Valley,"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "the AI revolution is all the AI talent,"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "right? Like the AI talent is in two"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "places. In China, onethird of the AI"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "talent is there and it's in Silicon"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "Valley. And that's what Jensen said on"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "at Nvidia. Like, why are they there? Why"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "aren't they in Austin or in Florida?"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "because all the the AI researchers, the"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "AI uh talent is in in Silicon Valley."}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "Now, I I think it's a balance."}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "Obviously, if you move the rates too"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "high, uh everyone will leave. But the"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "the the the putting aside how you do it,"}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "if you're an orary person, you're making"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "money, you're paying your tax, you're"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "paying income tax, or you're paying"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "capital gains tax. The challenge is if"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "you're a made a billion dollars, you're"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "a billionaire. You may never have to pay"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "an income tax, you're not getting"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "income, and you may never sell your"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "stock. You're not you're not uh"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "realizing capital gains. You may be"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "borrowing against this money and you're"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "not you're living your life and you're"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "not paying tax. So, how do you how do"}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "you get at that? Now, some people have"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "said one proposal, which is a reasonable"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "one, is if someone borrows against their"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "assets, tax that if they're if they're"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "doing uh their their their lifestyle."}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "But I think one of the things people"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "feel is like if you made all this money,"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "you should be paying the same tax as a"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "secretary or a bus driver or someone in"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "the military. You know, that's what"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "Warren Buffett said. We can discuss how"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "to do it, but that's the feeling of"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "unfairness people have that that that"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "it's not like they want to sock it to"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "the rich. It's just that they want them"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "to pay the same percentage as someone"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "who's a teacher."}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:02", "text": ">> I mean, I I'm just, you know, what makes"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "me think of that is"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "you see all these states going taxfree."}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "Tennessee is one of them."}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:08", "text": ">> Are you guys tax?"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:09", "text": ">> We're a taxree state."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:10", "text": ">> No income tax."}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:13", "text": ">> No income tax."}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:15", "text": ">> No uh unearned income tax."}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> But you have high property taxes or no?"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:18", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:18", "text": ">> We have a high sales tax."}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:22", "text": ">> Well, I don't know if it's high by your"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "standards, [laughter] but it's just"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "under 10%. But"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:28", "text": ">> by by making and I don't know if we're"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "100% unearned income taxree yet. If it's"}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "not, it's like a stairst step thing. It"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "goes down, right? But I mean, Tennessee"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "went taxfree"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "and there are more Californians living"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "here now. I'm not joking and I'm not"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:44", "text": ">> this isn't like a thing, but you know,"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "it's there are more a lot of"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "neighborhoods, at least here in"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "Franklin,"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": ">> 60% of the people are from California in"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "the neighborhoods."}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:53", "text": ">> Do they like them? Do they like"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "Californians here or no?"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:55", "text": ">> What's that?"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:57", "text": ">> Do the folks down here like the"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "Californians or they [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:02", "text": ">> I don't know. But"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:05", "text": ">> but uh I think there was a lot of"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "concern at around COVID time, but I"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "think a lot of that has kind of died"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "down now. But um cuz it's brought a hell"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:15", "text": "of a workforce and it's it's it's I mean"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "it's overp populated the around here,"}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "but it's brought in a it's brought in a"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "lot of business and a lot of the"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "infrastructure has has flourished as"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "well. So that's good to see."}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:28", "text": ">> But but what I'm saying is we got we've"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "got all these people from California,"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "New York, um Michigan moving in here."}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "And I mean the state is growing I"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "believe 20% year after year since co"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "you know, so"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:42", "text": ">> for Tennessee. I don't"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:44", "text": ">> but but"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "then you look at Florida and I mean"}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "Florida is just going I mean this this"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "place doesn't even compare to what's"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "going on down there. Another tax-free"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "state. And so I'm just I'm just curious."}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "I mean when you guys are thinking about"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "raising taxes, are you looking at what"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "the other states are and are you seeing"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "the draw that they're getting from"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "states with higher taxes?"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "I I grant that that there are people who"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "go to Florida for lower taxes or"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:12", "text": ">> taxes uh or taxes,"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:14", "text": ">> but you look at some of the things that"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "California has done well, right? We had"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "five Nobel laureates out of the UC"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "system. So that's because of a lot of"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "funding in the UC system. We've got"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "great higher education. We've got great"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "community colleges. Uh we have invested"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "in a lot of health care for people in"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "the country in in in the state. And the"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "health care costs are far lower for many"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "people than in uh in Texas. Now, we've"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:38", "text": "screwed up housing. You know, we don't"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "build enough. Austin and Texas does that"}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "a lot more. You know, I think when Gavin"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "ran, he promised that we would build 3.5"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "million houses and we built 120,000"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:50", "text": "houses. So, I'm not going to defend"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "California on housing. We've got to have"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "less restrictive zoning. I'm a Yimi guy."}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "Let's build. And I think that we need to"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "look at places like Austin or other"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "parts of the country that have built uh"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "to be able to build more housing. But"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:07", "text": "this idea that uh that that if you you"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "you just need to be low tax, low"}, {"start": "01:44:07", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "government, I don't I just"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "philosophically disagree with that"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "model. My view is if you have uh a uh"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "investments in community colleges, in"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "trade schools, in uh public schools, in"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "healthcare, uh that is a high"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:27", "text": "functioning society where you can build"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "wealth, where you can build uh wealth"}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "for every every family. Like I just want"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:35", "text": "the shot in America that I had as a son"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "of immigrants, right? I got to go to a"}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "good public school. I didn't have to"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "worry about going to a doctor. I got to"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "live in a safe community. You know, I"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "couldn't hit for anything in baseball."}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "They always said Kobat's ninth. Watch"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "the bun. But I got to play. I got to go"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "to the Phillies games. Like I I had a"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "great childhood on my street. Like there"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "were kids of electricians and plumbers"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "and was a kid of someone who was like a"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "big shot vice president as a company."}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "That guy had the pool and we all used to"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "go to that house to in the afternoons."}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:09", "text": "But the country, they didn't give me a"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:09", "text": "lot, but they gave me enough."}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:11", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:14", "text": ">> And my parents, you know, they said,"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "\"Ro, you won the lottery. You were born"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "in America. Go work hard. Go make"}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "something of yourself. Learn about the"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "country's history.\" My mom used to, one"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "of the things I never understand is"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "folks who say, \"Don't learn English.\" My"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "mom used to sit at the kitchen table"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "with note cards of every big English"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "word. and she was convinced that you had"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:35", "text": "to know every word in the English"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "language to make it in America. See,"}, {"start": "01:45:35", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "that's the spirit I want in this"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:41", "text": "country. Yeah. You got to work your, you"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "know, work with everything you have,"}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:45", "text": "hard work. You got to love this country."}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "This is the greatest country in the"}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "world. You got to love the history."}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "Appreciate the sacrifice of everyone who"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "fought from the Revolutionary War to the"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "World War II that fought for civil"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "rights. understand how great the country"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "is, but but give a shot to everyone."}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "That's the same shot I have. That's"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "that's what I want. I really do. And we"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "don't have that right now."}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:09", "text": ">> Mhm. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "I'm not going to disagree with you. And"}, {"start": "01:46:09", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "um you know, we're kind of winding up"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "down the interview here, but I just want"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "to say that you know,"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "now that I'm coming out of the the the"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "tribalized"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "whatever SCOP that I've fell into, and I"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "think just about everybody in the"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "country has fallen into. I mean, you"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "know what I'm realizing? The more other"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "people on the other side of the fence"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "that I talk to, like yourself, we all"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "want the same [ __ ] thing. We just"}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "have different road maps how to get"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "there. And that's not a bad thing,"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "right? Because let's say it was just"}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:47", "text": "like Roana gets to run America and no"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:49", "text": "one is saying like, \"Are you wasting the"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "money? Is the money at you? Are are"}, {"start": "01:46:49", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "people going to move away? Are you"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "actually going to help the kids you want"}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "to help?\" That wouldn't be good. And"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "let's say it was just someone saying,"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "\"Okay, I just don't want to waste any"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "money. Don't want to don't want to spend"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "anything.\" And I was like, \"Yeah, but"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "what about building those public schools"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:06", "text": "and factories?\" That wouldn't be good."}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "What makes this country work or has made"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "it work is like having people on all"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "sides challenge each other and then we"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "get to a common understanding and and"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:17", "text": "good. And what's not working in this"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "country is we're busy launching ad"}, {"start": "01:47:17", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "hominemum attacks on each other"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": ">> dunking on each other without having"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "like actual debate."}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:28", "text": ">> It's not constructive criticism or"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "productive criticism. It's just"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "tribalism and it's not going anywhere."}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "And uh but and what I meant, you know,"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "is just you care about people and I care"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "about people and we want the best for"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "people, but it's just different avenues"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:46", "text": "how to get there. And uh [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "people, you guys especially have got to"}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "start figuring out how to work out these"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "problems. Man,"}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:53", "text": ">> I'm I'm counting on you to join me. I"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "don't think you ruled it out. I don't"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "think you ruled it out."}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:48:00", "text": ">> Not see my ass on the floor at the"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "house. Can guarantee you that. But um"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:05", "text": "but Ro, I I really appreciate what"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "you're doing. I mean, I"}, {"start": "01:48:05", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "I know what it's like to go against the"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "grain and I just I applaud you. Good job"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "for doing that. People that what you're"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "doing right now with the Epstein stuff,"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "that's how you're going to get these"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "that's how you're going to get get the"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "win that you're asking. How do we get"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "this place back? And accountability from"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:26", "text": "that will be a great start. It may be"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "only the start that we the only start we"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "need, you know, to get things moving in"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "the right direction. But um but I do"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:32", "text": "want to ask you"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:37", "text": ">> If you could recommend three people for"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "the show, who would they be?"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:44", "text": ">> Thomas Massie, of course, uh who's uh"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "who's who's a interesting uh person and"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "really smart, but I mean really and and"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "and courageous."}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "Um have you had Marjorie on Taylor"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "Green?"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:56", "text": ">> I haven't. I think I should have her on."}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. She she risked her career"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "for it. I mean, these are just because"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "we're talking about the Epstein files."}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "But let me you know uh the guy at uh uh"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:08", "text": "Dario Amade at Anthropic. Actually, J,"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "you know, you should have Have you had"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "Jensen on from Nvidia?"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:13", "text": ">> I've tried to get him."}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:15", "text": ">> I'll talk to him. I I know him well."}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "He's in my district. I'll tell him you"}, {"start": "01:49:15", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "should come on the show cuz he's uh you"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "know, he's one of the great innovators"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "of our time. uh and he's humble and uh"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "and he he just understands technology"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "and where we're going in a in an"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "incredible way."}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:33", "text": ">> Man, I would love to do that"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:36", "text": ">> and he it'd be a great conversation."}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:39", "text": ">> Yeah, it would be. Man, please connect"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:40", "text": "me. That would be amazing. And I got"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "one."}, {"start": "01:49:40", "end": "01:49:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:46", "text": ">> Can you get me AOC?"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:47", "text": ">> I'd love to get her. Yeah. Have you had"}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "Bernie?"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:49", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:51", "text": ">> Would you do B?"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:53", "text": ">> Yeah, I'll take him, too."}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "Yeah, they they they I I'll talk to both"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "of them."}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:57", "text": ">> Perfect. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:49:59", "text": ">> Who else are big progressives? Uh and"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "they're obviously two of the Have you"}, {"start": "01:49:59", "end": "01:50:02", "text": "had Manny?"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:03", "text": ">> I haven't."}, {"start": "01:50:02", "end": "01:50:06", "text": ">> Would you talk to Mani?"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:09", "text": ">> I would talk to just about anybody. So,"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "yes, I would love that too."}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:15", "text": ">> You know, I think to the extent you have"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:16", "text": "people on both sides, um I think that's"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "that's great. The thing I admire about"}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:21", "text": "you, respect about you, why I came all"}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "the way down is because you take on"}, {"start": "01:50:21", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "power. You're willing to speak truth to"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "power and you you were doing that on"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "Epstein, like I said before I did. And"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "you're against the grain in taking on"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "orthodoxies. And to me, like what we"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "don't want in this country is more of"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "the same. It's like people are sick of"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "the status quo."}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:46", "text": ">> Yep. Yep. I'm with you, Ro. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:47", "text": ">> Thank you. Appreciate it. Nice."}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:48", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:51", "text": ">> Cheers."}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:03", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "Ryan Show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "01:51:03", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Mentalism versus magic. What is the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "difference?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> Mentalism is a subset of magic. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "built off of magic. It's not like a"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "separate supernatural or psychic power"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "[music] that some people will think, but"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "magic mostly involves slight of hand or"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "illusions. Illusions [music] are when"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "you're on stage, David Copperfield, big"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "boxes, things happening. Magic tends to"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "be more slight of hand and closeup. Pick"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "a card, find it, [music] put it back in."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "I produce the four aces. You know how"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "I'm doing it. It's slight of hand. my"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "hands have been trained in [music] some"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "way similar to kind of a juggler and"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "that I'm deceiving your eyes. Mentalism"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "doesn't really have that same [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "thing of deceive your eyes. I don't do"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "anything quick. There's no real trick or"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "prop. Mentalism [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "becomes magic for the mind where you"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "seem to read someone's mind, know their"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "innermost thoughts, secret information"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "about them, know what choices they'll"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "make in a certain [music] moment that"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "they don't even seem to know that"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "doesn't adhere to the rules of science."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "You go there's no way that we could do"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "this minus if you're reading my mind."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "That's if you're doing it perfectly"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "[music] what it looks like. But it is"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "not supernatural. is an actual set of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "steps that I'm using to get you to where"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "I want you to"}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "I voted to get these damn files released"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "and it's like a total 180."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Are you still talking about Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Epstein?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> He campaigned. He said, \"Look, we're"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "going to release the files.\" And what"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "has been disappointing is we've for the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "last 5 6 months have had to fight the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "administration at every step of the way."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Which gets me to believe like who is"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "protecting these people?"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> So, I'm just going to I'm sorry. I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "going to cut you off. I've been covering"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "this topic for a long time. I started"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "this with Ryan Montgomery"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> about 2 years ago."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> I know you did."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Then I brought on Tim Tibo. We're"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "bringing on your buddy Schle who's going"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "after Roblox."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> I know you're the first and only"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "congressman to actually speak out"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "against Roblox. At least according to"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Schlepp's attorney."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> And you know it's I just interviewed"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Elizabeth Phillips. Are you familiar"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "with this camp?"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> I'm not."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> It's the biggest Christian camp"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> in the [ __ ] world. And they are they"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "they I brought Elizabeth Phillips on and"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "she talks about how they've been"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "molesting thousands of kids for years"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "and putting them under NDA after a"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "settlement so that they can never as a"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "kid so that they can never come out and"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "talk about their sexual abuse at [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Camp Canook."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> It's sick,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> you know? And now we have I mean I"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "[ __ ] voted for this [ __ ] I voted to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "get these damn files released and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "like a total 180 just happened."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> Well, I don't I don't know if you had"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "the president on or the vice president"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "on on your show, but they had"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> both of them on."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> They campaigned on this, right? And so"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "when Massie and I originally did the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "bill, we thought, okay, Trump should be"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "for this cuz he campaigned. He said,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "look, we're going to release the files."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Here's the truth of the matter. No one"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "cared about this issue since the 1990s."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "It's not like a Donald Trump thing."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Biden, we didn't release the files under"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Biden. This thing was going on uh since"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "the 2000s. In 1996, Maria launched a"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "complaint with the FBI. And she was"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "told, \"We're not going to do anything.\""}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "By the way, you talk to some of the"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "other survivors, they were told, \"Don't"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "talk to the New York police. Epstein is"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "too connected.\" for 30 years until some"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "of the documents just came out because"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "of Massie in my bill. Maria was called a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "liar by everyone in power and said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "she never filed a complaint with the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "FBI.\" So when Trump said he wants to"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "release the files, he was right. When he"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "said that the system is corrupt,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "protecting rich and powerful people, he"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "was right. And we gave him the benefit"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "of the doubt. Then Pam Bondi comes and"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "says, \"Oh, there's no there are no more"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "files.\" I mean, come on. That's when"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "Massie and I do this bill and we"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "initially thought maybe Trump would"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "support it because his own attorney"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "general is betraying his promise and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "what has been disappointing is we've for"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the last five six months have had to"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "fight the administration at every step"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "of the way which gets me to believe like"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "who is protecting these people? I I just"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "I don't understand."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "I I cannot I got really [ __ ] pissed"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "off at the Democrat party because the"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "maps the minor attracted persons [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "before Trump came into office. We talked"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "about it all the time."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Now I I Why are we protecting Why is the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "White House protecting pedophiles? Why"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "is the White House protecting"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "pedophiles? I just don't understand it,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Ro. I can't [ __ ] get it through my"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "head why we would protect pedophiles."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "The other thing is this country has the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "biggest [ __ ] problem with sex"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "exploitation and sex trafficking in the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "world. We can talk about [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Venezuela and Mexico and Ukraine and"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Russia and [ __ ] China and waste fraud"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "and abuse and [ __ ] liberals this and"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Democrats this and Republicans and we"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "have a pedophile problem. We have a"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "[ __ ] pedophile problem in this"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "country and nobody's doing anything"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "about it in government except you and"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Thomas Massie. What the [ __ ] is going"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "on?"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> You know how I know this? Cuz"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> is everybody in government a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "pedophile now? What the [ __ ] is"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "happening?"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Well, I don't understand who they're"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "trying to protect cuz I keep saying it's"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "not about Trump. There's there's so many"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "people, Democrats, Republicans, who were"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "involved in all of this. Just release"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the files. And we know, they say, \"How"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "do you know, Ro, that there are other"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "men involved?\" First of all, just use"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "your common sense. There, 1200 plus"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "survivors. You think one guy raped all"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "of them? You think one guy abused all of"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "them? Of course not. There was a system"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "of powerful rich men who either"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "trafficked in these girls or abused them"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "or showed up to Epstein's rape island."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "The survivors haven't told me the"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "specific names, but what they have told"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "me with their lawyers is the type of"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "people who were involved. a uh Wall"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Street banker, a powerful politician,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and they've said that they sat through"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "interviews with the FBI. They're called"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "302 statements, and they told the names"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "on those 302 statements. So, release the"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "302 statements. They're not doing that."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Even though the law explicitly calls for"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "releasing those statements, we'll know"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "who these powerful men are. Then there"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "was a prosecution memo. You know,"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "originally there were 60 counts against"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Epstein in supposed to be in Florida."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "They prosecuted him on two counts."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "There's a memo which explains why there"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "should have been 60 counts, including"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "ties with foreign countries, including"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "ties with people uh who were being who"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "were financing him, including"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "allegations of a honeypot uh system"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "where he was trying to entrap basically"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "powerful men. and they're not releasing"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the memo even though the law explicitly"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "says we want to know all the decisions"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "of why he was charged or not charged."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "This is I mean it's a it's they're"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "covering it up and the people are asking"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "why who are the powerful forces that"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "have such influence that they're"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "covering this up every every citizen I"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "talk to here see say on social anything"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "once those files released was it every"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "single person in Congress that voted for"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "it to release them and was there every"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "single person in the Senate except one"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "person"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> everyone in the house except one"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> everyone in the House except"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> and every senator and but I got to give"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "credit not just to Massiey's courage"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "because he's got billionaires funding"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "against him and the billionaires don't"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "like me these days either. I mean you so"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "you you go after the Epstein class, you"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "make a lot of enemies, you know, look at"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "my ex uh and you see the people who go"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "after Massie and me, but it wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Massie uh and me. Marjorie Taylor Green,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Lauren Boowbert, and Nancy Mace stuck"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "their neck out to sign a discharge"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "petition that the two of us had to force"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "a vote on it. They got bullied by the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "White House. They got bullied by the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "speaker. They got threatened. Their"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "political careers were threatened."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Marjorie Taylor Green lost her seat."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Gave up her seat in Congress over this."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Didn't didn't the president tell"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "her what did he tell her? Oh, he he he"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "told he told her that uh she's betraying"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "him. Look, Marjorie Taylor Green was for"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Donald Trump when he came down the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "escalator. She was with Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "when he ran in 2020 and lost. She was"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "with Donald Trump when he said the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "election was stolen. I to disagree with"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "her, but she was out there defending"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "him. She was with Donald Trump in 2024"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "when Dantis and others were talking to"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "about running against him. No one had"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "been more loyal to to Donald Trump. And"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "she when she joined the petition, she"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "says, \"Ro, I'm gonna explain to Trump"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "that he actually can be a hero. He's"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "going to come on board. I'm telling you,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "he's going to come on board.\" She said"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Trump says to him, \"Well, you're hurting"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "some of my friends. You're this is not"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the right thing. You're hurting people.\""}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "How about hurting the survivors? How"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "about hurting the women?"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> Yeah. How about the [ __ ] kids?"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> It's girls."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> Kids hurting your friends, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> gives a [ __ ] about your [ __ ] friends."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "We give a [ __ ] about kids."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> And these are these are working class"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "girls. I wish people could see their"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "stories and how they were exploited."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "It's a class issue. Rich, powerful"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "people connected to politicians doing"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "figuring out, well, who's vulnerable,"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "who doesn't have a father, who doesn't"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "have a lot of money, you know, uh how do"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "we get that girl uh to start with giving"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "us massages? You know what the saddest"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "thing that I heard from a survivor? They"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "were saying that the survivors are"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "guilty because the survivors were"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "actually recruiters of aiding and"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "emedding uh other girls uh in getting"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "raped or getting abused. So, one of the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "survivors says, \"Yeah, I did that. You"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "know why I did that? Cuz I was so afraid"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "that I was going to be abused that I"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "went and I got other junior high girls"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and other high school girls to take my"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "place cuz I didn't want to be abused.\""}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Junior high girls."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> Junior high girls."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> Junior high girls. and we can't release"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the files. Be before we move on and and"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "we just both get pissed off side of what"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "we're doing. I just what we talked about"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Ryan Montgomery, Tim Tibo, I told you"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "about Elizabeth Phillips who I just"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "interviewed bringing on slept. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "it's such a problem in this country."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "What I'm I'm just curious what what can"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "parents do right now? Not call their"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "congressman, not call their senator."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "that shit's not working. What can people"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "do right now on their own to protect"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "their kids?"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "One, they need to know how widespread"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "this is. You know how it's widespread? I"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "I realize this cuz since I've been"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "affiliated with Epstein, I get stopped"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "on an airport. People will say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Congressman, can I tell you about what"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "happened to me?\""}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "I get I had I've known people for 30"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "years and they said, \"You know, Ro,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "something happened. One person told me,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "you know, when I was 4 to 8 years old,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "my uh babysitter's boyfriend abused me"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "and I never told my mom or my dad cuz my"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "dad would have killed the guy and my mom"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "would have totally lost it. So, I've"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "held this with me. And she said to me,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "\"Ro, it's like a box. You put it in a"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "box and you put it away, but it comes"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "back at any moment.\" And the amount of"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "people who have faced this, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "saying all from Epstein obviously just"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "faced this in this country is"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "extraordinary and it's sickening. It's a"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "s it's a national crisis. First thing we"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "need to realize is we've got a moral"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "crisis in this country."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Second thing is when you're having your"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "kids go to a sleepover, go to a sports"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "game, go on a field trip, be paranoid. I"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "mean, I don't want to scare folks, but"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "when you have them on a uh gaming site,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "when you have them on the internet, they"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "need to be paranoid. The parents need to"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "understand that this is not something"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "that happens uh in a remote part of the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "country. This could happen to your kids."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> But the main reason I want these Epstein"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "files out is because it'll force a"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "reckoning in this country. people are it"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "it'll be the biggest scandal I"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "fundamentally believe in a 100 years"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "because it's going to expose what's how"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "sick our elite culture is where for"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "their own gratification they think that"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "they can just abuse these girls and"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "nothing will happen and that kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "culture has permeated uh across the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "nation they need to be shamed they need"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "to be held accountable"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> you know John there buildings named"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "after some of these people and these"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "survivors go around and they're seeing"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "these people celebrated in the financial"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "world in the political world honored and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "they've committed the most heinous act."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "It's like we may not agree on much. I"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "think most Americans agree you don't"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "rape American girls. Like that's that's"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "the the line you don't cross."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Ryan show from. If you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Some of my most famous viral clips are"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "with football teams. A great example is"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "something I did with Joe Burrow. I start"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "with the premise of who cares about me."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Nobody wants to watch me right there."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "They want to watch football. I need to"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "win them over instantly. I want to know"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "something that if I'm a football viewer,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "what is the holy grail? That's Joe"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "Burrow. He just signed a contract for"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "$275 million. I want to know where he's"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "going to throw the ball to next. Is he"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "going to do a running play or a passing"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "play? I'm going [music] to show you that"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "I know exactly who Joe Burrow is about"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "to throw that ball to in this room. And"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "I'm going to make every [music] step be"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "more amazing than the one before. And"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "I've got to fool Joe because if Joe's"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "not buying it, I don't get a genuine"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "authentic reaction. He's not going to"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "fake it for me. The funniest [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "comment was some guy goes totally"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "scripted. He bought Joe off. I wish I"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "had enough money to bribe Joe Burrow to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "do it. Why would he? And then when you"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "do [music] that for 15 of the NFL teams"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "and then I did it for Jeff Bezos"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "recently. No one's faking it for me. It"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "would ruin my business if it was"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "scripted [music] or state. Faking it"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "isn't a long-term play for success."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Heads up, ninjas. Listen, I got a story"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "about a deathly soccer match in Brazil,"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "and you're not going to believe that."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Deathly."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> It worked."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> What? What?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> You would say deadly."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> Just critique everything I say, guys."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> I didn't say anything."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> No, you're talking about the whole"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "strangers thing."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": ">> You looked at me, huh?"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> You're like, say something."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> Oh, Josh, I found it. And it's in a"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "popka."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> Lily, please. Heads up, everybody."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Listen. I got a story ABOUT A DEADLY NO."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "DANG IT. HEADS UP, EVERYBODY. HEY, WE"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "GOT A DEADLY story in about a soccer"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "match in Brazil and it's not looking"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "And speaking of I can't do the deadly"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "thing with the Rwanda thing. Me"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "literally stabbing myself in the neck."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Can't do that."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Good."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> No, I don't want to do that."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> You say speaking of deadly and then"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "throw the throw the knife."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Speaking of deadly, we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "talking about the genocide that happened"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "in Rwanda in 1994 and the hidden agenda"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "of the United States of America. And"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "there's a lake in Turkey that there's a"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "lake in Turkey that has a hidden"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "fortress and a sea monster all hiding"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "underneath the surface. Find out more."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> That was great."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> This podcast is brought to you and"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "powered by Sunday. So watch this or"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "listen, PLEASE"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> throw the gun at me."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "No, like throw like pretend to throw it."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> I don't know how to do it. I thought you"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "were going to do this"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> and and then you cut it."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> You said fake throw and you actually"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "threw it harder."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Well, I mean for the editers,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "too. I would have thrown it."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Throw it. Throw it harder."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> It's coming at me."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> We are young."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Yeah. with the fire in our hearts."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> What are you guys singing?"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> Some Tik Tok guy. He's like"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> every millennial"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "music band or whatever back in the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> mid2000s"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> like paring it."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> Yeah, he's pretty good. The Limp Biscuit"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "one was really insane."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> He's really impressive."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> My uncle Johnny loves Limp Biscuit."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Kyle Gordon,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> do you know? Look at this. Hold on."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> I love that shirt, by the way. Such"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> I know. Cool, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> Thanks."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> Your shirt is really phenomenal though."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Thanks. I thrifted it."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> I could tell"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> enough."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> In a good way. In like a good Hey,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "that's that's I can't believe this is a"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "thrift finding kind of way."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> You recognize him?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> Yeah, definitely. That's Petey from Tik"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Tok."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> He is married to the CEO of Fishwife."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> What? How cool is that?"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> What's Fish Wife? That's that super cool"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "artisal canned fish place."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> Tinned fish."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> Tinned fish."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> What' I say?"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Tin canned fish."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> I brought it. It was the um the fly by"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Jing."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> They Yeah, they partnered with Fly by"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Jing and did a fly by Jing flavored."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> I think I'm losing my mind. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "forgetting stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> They It's an incredible like cool"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "company."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> You wouldn't be able to forget because"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "their branding is exceptional."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> It really is."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> I work at Sunday Cool. I'm used to"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "seeing exceptional branding all the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "time. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> NO PLUG."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> GET YOUR CUSTOMERS TODAY."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> I HEARD you guys had a terrible time"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "yesterday setting up the booth."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> It was not fun. It was not fun. We had"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "to carry just an enormous amount of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> I knew it was bad because I asked Josh,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "\"How was it yesterday?\" And Josh does"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "not start the day excited to talk. But"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "as soon as I asked him that question, I"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "got a 30 minute monologue on how that"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "setup went."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> Josh is really good though in the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "moment. just not like I'm one of those"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "guys like I I'm fired up in the moment"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "like I'll do work but I'm also going to"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "be loud about it."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Josh will just like keep a positive"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "attitude and get it done and then be"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "like afterwards be like that is don't"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> you think so?"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> I did."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> That's good."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> I was saying stuff like, \"Hey, how"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "amazing is it that we're right by the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "loading docks?\""}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> Even though we"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> even though you moved it a mile away"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "move it all the way back. I carried 500"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "lb of concrete all across the conference"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "center and to be just found that it"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "could have just walked 30 ft."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> I bet you guys got a good workout"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "though. Are you guys sore?"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> I'm not sore. No, but it was a good"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "workout. I was sweating a ton."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> Really buff. So"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> yeah, that's nothing compared to the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "workout you've been doing, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Yeah. I just took a um picture of myself"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "yesterday without a shirt and uh"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "honestly,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> you'll see the progress."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Pretty impressed."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> That's That is impressive."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Pretty impressed. Thank you, Genesis"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Health Solutions."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> Genesis Health Solutions. This could be"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "you guys. Come on."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> But you got to put that away. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "going to change our rating. I know."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> Yep. Hey, Lily's back with her limp arm."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> Limp arm."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Crippled arm."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Pick it up."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Oh, you know that's really impressive."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> Yeah. She can't even do her favorite"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "salute anymore, which is a bummer."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> How you feeling?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> I feel great."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> Yeah. It doesn't hurt that much anymore."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Good. It's very sore and I can't do like"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "that motion."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Because all my ligaments are spaghetti"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "in there."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> And I would really like to hear from a"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "doctor. I did call a different doctor"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "today because here's the deal. They say"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "whip that thing out every now and again"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "and exercise it gently."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "what's too much?"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> And so I guess I got really tired of"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "using the wrap splint. So, I just have"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "been like letting it literally hang by"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "my side for the past day and then I just"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Googled that you're not supposed to do"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> well, for those who don't know, didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "watch the last episode, Lily got in a"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "go-kart, the doctor actually, they wrote"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "on her note, a car accident."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> Yeah, my my GP called me and they're"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "like, I saw you were in a car accident."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Call me."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> She got in a four-year-old go-kart"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "accident."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a child's go-kart that I was"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "literally going 5 miles per hour and"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "maybe less. Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Yeah. So slow. I'm not like I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "thrillseker. So this was not Yeah. This"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "And it made me less This incident has"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "made me less"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> solidified. You're like I'm definitely"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "not a thrillseker."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> No, thank you. Yeah. I was trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "turn and I got caught on a hill and I"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "literally forgot there's brakes"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> or I didn't know there were breaks."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> She said at the doctor, I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "we said it last episode. Did I?"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> I don't think so."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> It's fine."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> She said in the hospital, she's like,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Josh, why don't they make those things"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "with brakes? I said, \"Lily, they do.\""}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "She's like, \"Where?\" I said, \"The paddle"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "to the left.\" To the left,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> like a car that you drive,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> even like any motorized vehicle."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> It was like a couple days after Lil went"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "to the her mom brought her to the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "doctor,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> orthopedic doctor."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> Um, and I called and Ada, my"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "four-year-old's in the back seat. I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "like, \"Yeah.\" Like, Aida even knows"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "where the break is. And Aida from the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "back, which I don't I told her this"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "once."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> Yeah. She aa goes, \"Yeah, mom. The"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "brakes's on the left.\""}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. She's a way better driver"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "than I am. But what happened was I was"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "just trying to turn around. I was going"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "not fast. I literally don't even think I"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "was on the gas."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> And I got caught on a hill and I rolled."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> And I guess I tried to catch us with my"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "arm"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> up up top."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I just got pinched with the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "the bars."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> I've heard now that you're supposed to"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "do this."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> Keep your arm in the vehicle. Tuck and"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "roll. That's why they got that roll cage"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "on it."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> But now, if you guys needed like a"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "lesson for your children, you say always"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "wear your seatelt cuz if not, you'll"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "dislocate your elbow cuz I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "wearing a seat belt or a helmet or"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "anything. But Jane was with me and was"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "wearing a seat belt and a helmet and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "miraculously everything is she was"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "unscathed."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> It's not miraculous. I mean, she took"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the safety precautions."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": ">> Everything happened the way it was"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "supposed to."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Dude, it hurt so bad."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> I can't imagine."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> I literally blacked out, okay, from the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "pain. And I also did hit my head and"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "they gave me a CT scan and it was fine."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "But I I blacked out from the pain I come"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "to. I'm like I mean when I get like that"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "I'm like trying not to throw up and pass"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "out at the same time"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> and but I'm all I'm thinking about is"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Jane. So I try to push myself up on my"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "arm. I go oh my arm's not working."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> That arm is not working."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> That's scary."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> I'M LIKE HELP."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> HOW far away were you?"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> I was at the barn and she was by the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "gate."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> That's a"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> He said he walked there."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "What do you want?"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> What are you overreacting about?"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> Be so used to this. A neighbor came."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Actually,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> I heard there was some bystander, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> And that person that looked No joke, I"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "looked him up. Doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Probably not."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> No, he really did. He did feel"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "supernatural, didn't he?"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> He really did cuz he walked in the which"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "I don't know."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> I think he hopped the fence."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> No, he walked in the gate. It opened."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Did he know the password?"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "he was an angel."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> He just had his bicycle and he put it"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "down and he's like, I heard screaming."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "And so I came over here and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "\"Do you want me to call the ambulance?\""}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "I'm like, \"No, we're going to take her"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "to the doctor.\" And I'm trying to figure"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "out how to get her out of the go-kart."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> He's like, \"Why don't we just flip it"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "off of her?\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> I'm like, \"That's actually way smarter.\""}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> And so he helped me and then got in the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "car and he's like, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> And then he literally vanished."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Your turn. He's not there anymore."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> That's so funny."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> That that car ride was agony."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> I felt him accelerate. I felt him"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "decelerate. Tell them about tell them"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "about So they put you on ketamine."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> So we get there and the whole time the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "nurses are like, \"Oh, how'd this"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "happen?\" You know, I'm like, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "literally trying not to pass out. Please"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "be serious.\""}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> And then they take me back there and the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "X-ray guy comes in. His name is Brian"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "and he was an angel. He was the best. He"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "was so funny though. I told him, \"Brian,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "I have to tell you I'm very scared of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "this part. I'm very scared of you.\" And"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "he said, \"You should be.\" That's what he"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "said."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> Oh. and takes me back there and takes a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "bunch of pictures and then he's like,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "\"You know, I could put it back in if I"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "just roll it a certain way.\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "\"Don't touch me, Brian."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> Brian, I'm gonna tell you this once.\""}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> Um, and he was so good. Anyway, I go"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "back, they immediately see, he goes,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "\"Oh, yep. There it is.\" Right. And what"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "happened was, trigger warning. My elbow"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "obviously went up."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> So, it goes out and up and it moved my"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "bicep 2 in out of its normal spot."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> And everything is just spaghetti in"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "there. Okay. And they let it sit for"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "like a what I would say a long time. I"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "don't know how long this stuff usually"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "goes."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> No. Yeah. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> 5 minutes."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> It was probably close to two hours."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> Before they And so I mean that thing's"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "just started swelling."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> Yeah. And it looked crazy and it Oh my"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "gosh. And it's just like constant like"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "child birth is still worse."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> I think but you get breaks at least"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "between contractions and this was just"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "like constant. It just felt wrong."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Yeah. And also the unexpectedness of it"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "like the scared. Yeah. Like all of it."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "all the things. Yeah. And then so the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "doctor comes in, he's like, \"Yeah, we're"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "gonna set this thing, whatever."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> My blood pressure has been really low"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "the whole time because I'm just trying"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "not to pass out, right? I'm like"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "queasy.\" So they can't give me the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "normal sedative and they're like, \"We're"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "going to do ketamine.\" And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "\"I've heard that people like that."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> Ketamine."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> I've heard people enjoy ketamine, so"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "this should be fine.\""}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> Not I did not realize that I would have"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "the most lifealtering trip of my life."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> Yeah. What happened? What to break take"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "us through that whole trip. So, I forget"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "everything immediately. I forget I'm a"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "person."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> Okay. I think I literally feel like I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "a molecule in the universe just jumping"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "around"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> and you're seeing all this."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> I see visions. It's like the the the"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "thing I can related to most closely is"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "like Inception. It's like discs of"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "reality."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> And it felt kind of like maybe the scene"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "in um"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Interstellar where he's"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> Oh, the the"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> going through gravity, discovering that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "gravity is the answer. Yeah, the uh Oh,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "got it. I was thinking Inception for"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "some reason."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> Well, both. Okay. Okay. It's like all"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "this stuff, right? And then but I would"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "get these glimpses of this little"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "creature."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> What? I didn't hear this."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Yes. And this creature would had like"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "was hairy and like would change shapes."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Like one minute it would be like wood"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "and then it would be like metal. It was"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "like Spongebob."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> And then it would change into like"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "claymation or something. And it's"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "guiding me through all these discs of"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "reality. Sure. And what I'm realizing as"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "this is happening is this is death. I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "dying."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> And I'm thinking all these things. I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "thinking like regret for not like moving"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "into this new house and like all these"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "things that I'm missing out on."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> So you're fully conscious in that way."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Like you're able to still remember and"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "think of"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> some parts of it cuz part of it I also"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "think that I'm literally a piece of dirt"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "in the ground. I literally think like I"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "am I'm aware that I am made of organic"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "material and I'm going it's natural to"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "die."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> This is part of life."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> And it's not scary or sad. I'm not feel"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "I'm like not very sad. I'm just like"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "that would have been cool if I could"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "have done this before I died. And then"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "this little creature is pull me around"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "and then I guess as things keep going I"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "realize that the creature is Josh."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> You're the little creature. You have to"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "say Spongebob."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "It's Josh. And what I realize at my core"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "in this trip is that you and I are soul"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "mates."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> We are literally one flesh."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Just now realize that."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> It's crazy. You literally were like my"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "little guiding. And then I'm starting to"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "come out of it and then I'm seeing you"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "like this a little bit and then I get"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "dizzy again and I'm like there he is."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "then I'm thinking it's the end."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": ">> Yeah. And I'm going I'm pleading with"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "the Lord to accept my soul"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> into heaven"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> because"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> terrible. Well, the thing she stopped"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "breathing."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> Yeah. I was tripping so hard that I"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "literally just stopped breathing and the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "lady"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> and also Josh said my eyes are wide open"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "and I'm doing this the whole time."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Her eyes are going"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> oh my god so fast."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> And then the nurse is like breathe Lily."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "And she's like breathe. And you HEAR"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "JOSH, HEY LILY, BREATHE. You know, and"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "then she takes my mouth like this and I"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "go,"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "\"You saved my life.\""}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": ">> To be in the waiting room listening to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Josh scream, \"Breathe.\""}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> And then apparently the doctor's like,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "\"Can somebody shut that door?\""}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": ">> Yeah. The doctor's like, he goes, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "can somebody shut that door?\" Cuz it's"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "just open. So this whole uh clinic is"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "just hearing Li go."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Don't stop. STOP. STOP. STOP. STOP. HEY."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "HEY. HEY."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> I know. So it's like is someone dying"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "over there? It's like dislocated elbow."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> And by the way, I can feel them pulling"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "on my arm. So like this whole trip is"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "interrupted by me also feeling them. And"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "I guess I Josh like recorded my voice or"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "something while it was happening. And"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "I'm going, \"Hey guys, hey, let's talk"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "about this for a minute. Everybody slow"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "down. Slow down for a minute."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> LET ME SAY SOMETHING. LET ME SAY"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "SOMETHING. Let me tell you something.\""}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": ">> AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, YELLING AT THEM."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "BUT I guess I was convincing them to"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "some degree"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> kind of I cuz it was scary"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": ">> what you were doing."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> Um anyway, and then I come back and"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "they're like, \"It's not in.\" And I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "like, \"You're kidding.\""}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> So for nothing."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> It took them two doses of ketamine and"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "fentanyl and then we took an hour break"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "and then they tried again with another"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "sedative and got it."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": ">> Boom. Got it in."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "I I woke up and I'm like, \"Am I going to"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "die?\" That's why I kept saying, \"Am I"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "going to die?\" And they're like, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "it's just your arm.\" I was filled when I"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "started coming back, I was filled with"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "so much dread because I had forgotten"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "that I had hurt my arm."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": ">> And then I'm like realizing over again"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "that I'm injured and we got to fix this."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "And I also like something else is"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "fatally happening to me."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> Yeah. She did kept on coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "ketamine trip. She's like, \"What am I"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "doing? Why am I here? Why am I here?\""}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> You got to break it to her all over"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> PULLING IT. AH."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> YEAH."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> YEAH. I kept going like, \"What's going"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "on?\""}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": ">> that was a nightmare."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": ">> But then my mouth wasn't working either."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": ">> But it sounded like I was talking very"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "clearly, but it was like I was talking"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "through peanut butter."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": ">> Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": ">> sound like a dog with peanut butter on"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "peanut butter on the top of Ruth's"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "mouth."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": ">> I can't even talk. I'm on ketamine right"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": ">> We're nine days out and I'm doing great."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> we're glad to have you back."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> Thanks. The ketamine was the worst part."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> now we're good. Someone would say those"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "be their favorite part."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> Um, speaking of ketamine, you want a"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "song?"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> We're gonna make bring you send you back"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "into your khole trip."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": ">> Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "All right, let's do this."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "You got oil in the ground? We'll roll in"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "and shut it down. Got some mountains"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "looking fine. Say goodbye. Those peaks"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "are mine. We see gold or silver there."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "We'll plant a flag and claim your air."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "Even if it's just a breeze, we'll bottle"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "that up and charge you fees."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:18", "text": ">> You got it. We'll take it. That's the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "American way. We'll drop in unite. It"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "grilling by midday. From sea to shiny"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "oil field from your trees down to your"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "sand. You got it. We want it. We'll take"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "it with both hands."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "You got forest lush and green. We'll"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "turn them into vending machines. Got a"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "coastline nice and wide. We'll build a"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Walmart right outside. We got culture,"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "art, or spice. We'll make remake and"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "charge you twice. Even if we leave"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "someday, you'll still have us to pay."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "Got it. We'll take it. That's American"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "way. We'll drop an uninvited."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Be grilling by midday. From sea to shiny"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "old field, from the trees down to your"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "sand. You've got it. We want it. We'll"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "take it with both hands."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "We'll take it with all hands."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": ">> Good job, guys. That song is dedicated"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "to Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": ">> Thank you, Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> Hope you guys are okay."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> What do you guys think about that whole"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "thing?"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> We'll talk about it in a second."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> We probably We don't need to talk about"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "it, honestly."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> We're actually going to skip over it"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "completely."}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": ">> It's not really a big story at all."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> Actually,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> you know what?"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "No,"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "we can't. We got to"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": ">> We're on the topic already. We could"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "just talk about it."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> We can't."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "You've already gone too far."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Give me one good reason."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": ">> That's my favorite flavor of Dorito."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": ">> I'm hungry."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> Those honestly like I make taco salad."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Those are the best ones to do. Taco"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "salad."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> Okay, thank you."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": ">> It's those have like a midnight taco"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "flavor which was incredible. Like how do"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "you get taco in a"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> You want to do this now?"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "Sorry."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": ">> There's millions of people depending on"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "us for this."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "You know what we got to do."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": ">> You're right."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "You're right."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": ">> We got a question."}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "I think it's pretty"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "it's a scary one."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": ">> Scary."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "scares me"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "the more you think about it."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> Today's question."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Get on with it."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> Show some respect. Will"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": ">> I'm respectful."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> Are you?"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> She always texts when I'm talking to"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "her."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:19", "text": ">> It's a problem."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": ">> That's literally not true."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": ">> It's a problem."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> That's not true."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> Today's question sent in by a viewer."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Hey, Lil."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:27", "text": ">> Should li should women be allowed to"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "drive?"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": ">> This is so it look"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": ">> really"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": ">> Maybe I shouldn't,"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "but generally women should be allowed to"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "drive. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "As long as they have a valid license."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "They should be able to drive"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "poor people out of this country."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": ">> Is that what you're saying?"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": ">> That's what you just said."}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": ">> Did you just make that up right now?"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": ">> That's neither there."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": ">> The question was the question."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": ">> Should women be allowed to drive poor"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "people out of this country?"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": ">> Well, you just said yes. I might operate"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "a vehicle."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": ">> You want them. Do you want them to drive"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "them in vehicles out of this country?"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:27", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": ">> Or do you want to run them over? What do"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "you I'm confused on what?"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:31", "text": ">> No, I would never say that."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": ">> Well, I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": ">> I mean, she just wants to eliminate"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "them. It doesn't matter. Apparently, the"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "means of how she doesn't."}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": ">> What about Why should women drive poor"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "people out of this country? I"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": ">> What did poor people do wrong?"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": ">> Yeah. What did poor people do wrong?"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:44", "text": ">> They're trying their best. They're"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "trying their hardest,"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": ">> dude. With inflation, this this"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": ">> the the housing market, the groceries"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "are so expensive right now. And you"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "think, well, tough for them."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": ">> I don't care how many kids you have."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": ">> Us women. Hey, women,"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": ">> gather up. We're going to GET ALL THESE"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "POOR PEOPLE OUT OF HERE."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": ">> THAT'S NOT how I feel."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": ">> You know what? I'm going to say it."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> I don't care that you broke your elbow."}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": ">> Wow. You were waiting for that."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": ">> I was. Who you guys heard here first?"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": ">> She thinks it's a laughing matter. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "apparently Lil Glly,"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": ">> you're not the first one to say that to"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "me, by the way."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": ">> My cousin said it first."}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": ">> Lily"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "is just I don't"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "care. Doesn't care about the poor people"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "and she thinks women"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "deserve to drive over them with their"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "cars,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": ">> which is insane because women"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> and kill them. women. Women are capable"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "of a lot of things, but she's"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "pigeonholding them into this position of"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "put putting poor people out there. And"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "so, I know she's not speaking for all"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "women. It's just purely Lily."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": ">> Yep. Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": ">> Did I say ninja? I meant"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": ">> butterfly."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "empty your mind."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": ">> You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "Good evening. As a new year begins, many"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "of us are refining our daily routines."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> Quite right. Small improvements made"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "sensibly can last far longer than those"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "ghastly resolutions."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> One such improvement for me has been"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "Mando whole body deodorant."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": ">> Me as well. It's a refreshingly"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "practical product. And frankly, it works"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "exactly as advertised. It's designed"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "more than just for the underarms."}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": ">> Indeed, it's a whole body deodorant. It"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "could be used wherever odor may"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "unexpectedly arise."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": ">> Discretion is key."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": ">> Very much so. Mando doesn't simply just"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "mask the odor. It stops it before it"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "even starts, which I find deeply"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "reassuring. And it was created by a"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "physician, a doctor."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> Yes, someone who recognized that body"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "odor was being misunderstood and treated"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "incorrectly. The result is far more"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "effective and thoughtful."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": ">> It is also clinically proven."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": ">> Correct. It blocks body odor and"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "controls it for up to 72 hours."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "Impressive without being too flashy a"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "Porsche."}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": ">> Andy, what's your preference?"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": ">> Me, I use the solid stick. Powered by"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "mandelic acid, straightforward,"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "reliable. They also have an aluminum"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "free spray which is excellent for"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "broader coverage and the scents are"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "subtle."}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": ">> Precisely. Bourbon leather, clever"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "woods, Mount Fuji pro sport. Clean,"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "restrained, and entirely appropriate for"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "polite company. A sensible addition for"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "new here."}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": ">> One might even say essential."}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": ">> Want to try America's number one whole"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "body deodorant formula right now? You"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "can find Mando in Walmart, Target, and"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "other retailers across the country."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": ">> For the best deals, head to"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "shopmando.com."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "For a limited time, new customers get"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "20% off sitewide, plus free shipping"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "with our exclusive code. Use code ninjas"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "at shopmando.com."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "That is s h o p m a n d o.com."}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": ">> And if you're inquired or asked to do"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "so, be so kind as to mention that you"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "heard of them from us here at Ninjas are"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "butterflies. Don't mask it. Mando it."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:20", "text": ">> Visit shopmando.com and use code ninjas"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "for 20% off sitewide and free shipping."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:21", "text": ">> Very good."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": ">> Cheers."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:24", "text": ">> Cheers."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "This episode is sponsored by Better"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Help."}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": ">> Yep. And now that the new year has"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "started, everyone knows there's so much"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "pressure on how to become a better"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "person. We're all expected to,"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": ">> which is exhausting."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": ">> Yeah. So, instead of trying to reinvent"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "yourself, you can actually learn how to"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "process your trauma and let go of all"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "the weight that you've been carrying."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "And we want to help you carry less."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "Exactly. 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They have an"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "average of 4.9 out of five rating coming"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "from 1.7 million people. Live sessions."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "That's real reviews, people. Feeling"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "lighter sounds good."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": ">> It does. And the new year doesn't mean a"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "new you. It just means moving forward"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "and leaving the stuff behind you that is"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "just too heavy."}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": ">> You can't step into a lighter version of"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "yourself without leaving behind what's"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "been weighing you down. Therapy can help"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "clear that space."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": ">> All you got to do to sign up and get 10%"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "off betterhelp.com/ninjas."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "That's betterhp.com/ninjas."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": ">> Thanks, BetterHelp."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": ">> You're welcome."}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "Andy, your hat matches your flame. It is"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "an exact panone match."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": ">> Does it? I didn't do that on purpose"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "this morning."}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": ">> Hey, fully story of business. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": ">> Um, we got a new ninja shirt."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:52", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:54", "text": ">> What's it look like?"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> That thing is so cool. Look at it, Lil."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "It's right there."}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": ">> Oh, wow."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": ">> A ninja on a chopper. The ninjas are"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "butterflies biker gang t-shirt is now"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "available, people. Really coolwag.com,"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "baby. They don't. They're not gangs."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "They're clubs."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:10", "text": ">> Gang."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:11", "text": ">> We're starting a club."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> Gang gang."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": ">> Yep. Gang gang gang gang."}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": ">> Oh, that's where it comes from. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:20", "text": ">> it does. Also, we have our uh Lizard"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "University sweater on sale for 25% off"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:23", "text": ">> Woohoo."}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": ">> So, if you just go put it in the cart,"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "it says, \"Hey, 25% off"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> automatically applied.\""}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> And they're the best. And they're super"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "comfy."}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": ">> They're very cozy. We have one lady in"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "this office that basically wears it"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "every single day."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:35", "text": ">> Every day. Every day."}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:36", "text": ">> It's a problem. It's a problem. All"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "right, that's it."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:38", "text": ">> That's it."}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> That's all I got."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": ">> Make sure to go to patreon.com. We will"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "see you there."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:45", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": ">> we should do 15inute episodes."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:47", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:49", "text": ">> we're already over 15-minute episodes."}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": ">> I know. And we just started."}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": ">> Our our retention analytic would be"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "great."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:54", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": ">> possibly."}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": ">> Possibly."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": ">> Um, speaking of retention,"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:28:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:01", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:02", "text": ">> You guys watch Sitters?"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": ">> Dude, we've watched more movies in the"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "last week than"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "probably all 2025."}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:09", "text": ">> We were inspired. We were inspired, I"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "guess, by the list that we made. We're"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "like, gosh, we missed out on a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "movies."}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": ">> So, hit me. Hit me quick. You saw"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "Sinners. What was your rating?"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:17", "text": ">> Eight."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:17", "text": ">> Eight."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> I liked it."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:19", "text": ">> I said 7.9."}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:20", "text": ">> Phenomenal."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:21", "text": ">> It really scared me though."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:23", "text": ">> It's phenomenal."}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": ">> Scary. Scary. Scared me so bad that I"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "pulled I was resting with my arm like"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "this and then I threw my hands up to"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "cover my eyes and it hurt so bad."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": ">> Yeah, it was great. Very scary."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": ">> Very scary. some inappropriate parts."}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:37", "text": ">> Easily skippable."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:39", "text": ">> Yeah, easily."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": ">> I wouldn't say it was as yuck as most"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "movies are these days."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": ">> No. Yeah, there's no"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:48", "text": ">> um we saw Black Bag, which I did not"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "enjoy."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> Which you did not enjoy, which is crazy"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "to me."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": ">> I liked it, but it was not Where's the"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "action? It's a spy movie. Spy thriller."}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> No. Yeah, that's what you keep saying."}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "It's a spy thriller. It's not a spy"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "thriller. It's a spy drama."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:02", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Not a thriller. a huge"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "distinction."}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": ">> I mean, it's okay. First of all, spy"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "comes in with it like that. Like,"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "obviously, there's going to be drama."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "There's going to be thrill. There's"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "going to be all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:12", "text": ">> There was no thrill"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": ">> really. The guy the scene when they're"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "on the boat and the guy's like, you"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "don't have any idea whether it's the"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "it's the lack of action. It's the"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "tension that builds it up. You got to be"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "in it. You went in with the expectation."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "I'm going to go see James BOND TODAY."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:26", "text": ">> OKAY. I I had Mr. and Mrs. Smith in my"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "head is what happened."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": ">> THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM."}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": ">> YOU TOLD ME I WAS LIKE MR. AND MRS."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "SMITH. I don't think I said that at all."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "I don't believe I said that."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": ">> You did. Okay."}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:38", "text": ">> She's only yelled at me like like that"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "three times in my life and it was really"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "scary when we were fighting."}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:42", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": ">> I'm just saying we wasted an hour and a"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "half. By the way, it was only an hour"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "and a half. That's what Josh and I"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "commented on. We're going"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": ">> to complain that it's too short."}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": ">> That's a good 90minute movie."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": ">> I bet there was stuff I bet there was"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "supposed to be action. They cut it out."}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:56", "text": ">> No, it's written by David Soderberg, one"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "of the greatest writers and directors of"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "all time. Um, but you know what? It's"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "your It's not as Mr. Mrs. Smithy enough."}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": ">> I do adore Michael Fastbender and Kate"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "Blanchett is a babe."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> She's incredible."}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:14", "text": ">> What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": ">> Either either or there."}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:16", "text": ">> What other movie did you watch?"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:17", "text": ">> Huh?"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": ">> What other movies did you watch?"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": ">> The Phoenician Scheme. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": ">> I need to watch that one. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:24", "text": ">> it was excellent."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:26", "text": ">> You're a big Wes Anderson guy, Josh. Is"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "it like one of your top threes?"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": ">> Top three for sure. Super funny. Super"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "fun. Very creative. Very artsy. Very"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "nice."}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": ">> Very creative to put everything on the"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "same spot on the screen every time."}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:39", "text": ">> It he has a way of doing it and it looks"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "really good."}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> It's cool to create your own style as a"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "director in this time and age to like be"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "able to be like everyone without even"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "saying like, \"Hey, this is my style.\""}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "It's just like everyone's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "that's just Wes Anderson now.\" That's"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "just the color palette, everything like"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "that. Fantastic. Mr. Fox is so"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "just a dig to get it. Josh, I remember"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "when I started working here. You like"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "that was when you were teaching me to"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "edit. You were like like this like this"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "and everything was a Wes Anderson"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "reference and I literally had never seen"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "anything of his and like didn't"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "understand it. I was like from the rule"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "of thirds and on thirds mindset and uh"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:14", "text": ">> it's just Carl."}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:16", "text": ">> You should watch it with Paige the"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Phoenician skin of all of them. You"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "should watch it and she would really"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "love it. She would get a kick out of it."}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "You think so?"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": ">> Oh, it's like it's cutesy and also silly"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "and I was laughing the whole time."}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": ">> Okay. I've heard uh the girls walked in"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "on a a scene in the movie like the very"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "beginning of it."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:31", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:32", "text": ">> Saw like the most like Josh is going"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "violent."}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": ">> They can watch this. It's a Wes Anderson"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "or whatever. I mean, not two sec. And it"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "wasn't a violent movie, but somebody"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "explodes literally. I was like, \"Nice,"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Josh.\""}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": ">> The first three seconds."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": ">> You're like, \"Oh.\" With his use of color"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "was it like all freaking vibrant."}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": ">> It was as Wes Anderson as a body"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "exploding as possible. It was really"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "funny."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:55", "text": ">> That's great. Any other movies?"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": ">> Yeah. What else did we watch? I feel"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "like we did."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:00", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:00", "text": ">> Okay. We watching a lot of New Girl."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:01", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": ">> RIP."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": ">> Um, speaking of New Girl, do you hear"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "there's a new death at Disney?"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": ">> Oh, number six in four months. Ain't"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "that nuts?"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:12", "text": ">> What was the method?"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:13", "text": ">> They the"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": ">> jumped method."}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": ">> Well, no. Well, here's my thing. How do"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "we know there's not a serial killer?"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": ">> Yeah. A pusher."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": ">> This is at Disney Springs. That does"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "that does that count?"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:26", "text": ">> That's the name."}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:27", "text": ">> This Walt Disney World property."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:30", "text": ">> I mean, yeah, if you're gonna if you're"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "gonna do a serial killer. I mean, maybe"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "he's doing one per park, one per"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "property."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:35", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> Yeah. He's got one of those like sticker"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "passport books where you get autographs."}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": ">> That would be good. That would be good."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "What would you call him? The Oh, man."}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "The Disney"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": ">> the doomsday Disney killer."}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:50", "text": ">> You got to have alliteration a little"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "bit, right?"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": ">> Yeah. The dreadful Disney."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": ">> The Disney World"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": ">> pirate pusher."}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:00", "text": ">> Yeah, possibly."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": ">> Disney World world. Disney World"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:05", "text": ">> Pixie Pusher. Pixie dust pusher."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> The pixie pusher."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:08", "text": ">> The pixie pusher."}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:09", "text": ">> That's a good one."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:10", "text": ">> There's a good one."}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:11", "text": ">> Dang, that stinks."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": ">> And they're not releasing. You can't"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "find any info on these."}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:17", "text": ">> I know. Cuz they cover up like crazy."}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> Yeah, cuz no one dies at Disney."}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": ">> Well, this one does. Six people have"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:22", "text": ">> since October."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": ">> Dang, that is hardcore."}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:25", "text": ">> They should just write it in like make"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "it part of the story."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> What's Bob Bagger going to do about"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": ">> I don't know. Probably make some weird"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> probably I'm not"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> Maybe we should make a uh a song about"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "in honor of them"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> the Disney"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> Disney people. Yeah. Or bringing"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "attention to it."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> What if like their souls get trapped in"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "the Haunted Mansion? That's And it was"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "an empty mansion. It was honestly just"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "like a happy uh like ride before when"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "they first opened it up. It was just"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "like this like fun castle ride."}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:57", "text": ">> How do they make those ghosts look so"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "real?"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:34:59", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "they are."}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:02", "text": ">> A real conspiracy could be that Ronda"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "Santis is making all this happen because"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "he hates Disney so much."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": ">> that would be a good story."}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": ">> Florida Florida secret organization"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "government thing."}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": ">> Dropping bodies at Disney or having"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "hitman go to Disney and just take people"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": ">> Yeah. So nobody goes to Disney anymore."}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "M or what if that like uh that company"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "that you go over there and you like help"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "snipe people out that you pay like"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "$100,000 but it's like at Disney World"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:24", "text": ">> Oh my gosh,"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:25", "text": ">> that's scary."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> That is scary."}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": ">> Just on like the main street just"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "windows."}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> Dang. That's like those people that have"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "those phobias. Have you ever heard about"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "that woman that had a phobia that she"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "would be like shot suddenly and then she"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "it actually happened to her?"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:35", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": ">> See, I don't think it's certain things"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "like that. It's like maybe that's not"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "just a irrational fear. Maybe it's like"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "a premonition a premonition of the Holy"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "Spirit just saying, \"Hey, be careful.\""}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Be vigilant. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:49", "text": ">> On a swivel."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:52", "text": ">> That's so scary. We're going to Disney"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "next Monday"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:55", "text": ">> with my sister."}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": ">> Don't die."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:57", "text": ">> I won't."}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:59", "text": ">> Don't die. Um,"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": ">> don't me. Take her."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:02", "text": ">> Speaking of Disney,"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:03", "text": ">> Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:04", "text": ">> Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": ">> We're getting into it, huh?"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": ">> Just a little bit. Time has passed."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": ">> Yeah, there's a lot of narratives"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "happening. So, I'm wondering what's the"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "real truth. My favorite is the one"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "that's coming from the White House"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "because I think it is the real truth."}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": ">> Lily,"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> he said, \"We're going for oil.\""}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": ">> Yeah, that's true. But"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": ">> what's something underneath that?"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> Yeah, probably. I mean, I know a lot. I"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "mean, the conversation between Argentina"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "and the Far East."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": ">> I think that I think it's multifaceted."}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:37", "text": ">> It's crazy. Venezuela has the largest"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "oil reserve in the world. I think they"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "said 13% bigger than Saudi Arabia."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": ">> Yeah. But it's crude oil, like a very"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "thick crude oil, so it takes a lot to um"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "refine it."}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:49", "text": ">> Didn't realize it was different than"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "what"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:56", "text": ">> apparent apparently Saudi has like a"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "very easily um just like a thin I don't"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "know oil."}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:00", "text": ">> It's just like it's an"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:02", "text": ">> Yeah, just a better quality oil."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "Venezuela has more, but it's super"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "crude, very glunky."}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> So break let's break this down. The"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "first week of 2026, the US in the middle"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "of the night does a secret raid"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "with DAA agents to Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:18", "text": ">> and Delta Force."}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": ">> And Delta Force. Yeah. Okay. And so they"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "go to Venezuela and they do what? They"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": ">> they Well, the thing is um what's his"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "name?"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> Maduro."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> Maduro, is it?"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": ">> Okay. Maduro. He lives on a um a"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "military base."}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": ">> Okay. And so they had all these"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "explosions go off and that was to cut"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "communications and power in the around"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "this surrounding area."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": ">> Delta Force comes in. Took him like I"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "think six minutes to drop in and get him"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "back in the chopper."}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:49", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:50", "text": ">> Nuts, right? I think"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:52", "text": ">> How do you How does that happen? He's"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "the president of Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:54", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:57", "text": ">> there was a meme about like the scene"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "from Stranger Things was 6 minutes and"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "20 seconds and so was the Maduro raid."}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Yeah, that's funny."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "Um but yeah, they got him out and"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": ">> and his wife, right? They both How does"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "that happen as the Venezuelan people in"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "the military? How do you"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": ">> Was there not a fight? Was there was it"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "an inside job? Was it like did they"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "allow him to be taken?"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> Well, some people are theorizing that he"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "knew it was coming and he was basically"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "offered, hey, we're going to take you"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:27", "text": ">> go in peace."}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": ">> Yeah. We'll you'll be you you'll have a"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "a trial in New York."}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:32", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:33", "text": ">> But if you don't, then we're going to"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "come in and"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:36", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": ">> So, why go there in the first place?"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "Like what started THEM"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> saying pow?"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:47", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:48", "text": ">> so what like what led them to go there?"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "Cuz I heard it was like strictly because"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "he was a dictator and he was doing war"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "crimes, all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": ">> But is that just the only truth or is"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "there obviously there's oil? oil, which"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "he the the history of Venezuela is"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "Chavez. Remember Chavez?"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:03", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Jay."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": ">> um say Viva Chavez."}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": ">> Viva. The parks and wreck episode is so"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "funny. Say Viva Chavez."}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:12", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": ">> no, no. Viva. Anyways, Chavez came in,"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "started the socialist communist movement"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "in Venezuela, completely tanked the"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "economy, uh, made the oil companies that"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "were set up by the United States in"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "Venezuela, took them under state"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "control, and then they lost like upwards"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "of 90% of functionality with these oil"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "um, plant or not refineries, refineries."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": ">> And so it was just it tanked um, and the"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "US was like hugely benefiting off this"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "oil."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "And Venezuela was super it was one of"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "the richest countries in the world"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "before Chavez. And then before Chavez"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "left or died, he u basically appointed U"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:55", "text": ">> Maduro."}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": ">> Maduro and then Maduro just drove it"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "down even further."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": ">> And so but it was just completely closed"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "off. But there's a what is said is like"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "all this drug trafficking or drug stuff"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "coming out of Venezuela and he's aiding"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "it and there's a terrorist organization"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "involved in it. Blah blah blah blah"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "blah. think it's just about oil."}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:13", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": ">> I mean, yeah, because like where is the"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "line? I mean, if you're I mean, I just"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "don't know because you think you you"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "have Kim Jong-un, you have Putin, you"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "have Xi Ping, you have all these other"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "people that are dictators that are doing"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "bad things,"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:27", "text": ">> but yet Venezuelan's on our first on our"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "hit list for this year."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:33", "text": ">> It appears as though Trump is trying to"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "unify the West. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": ">> It feels like he's wanting to bring tech"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "over here and all these major industries"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "in case we go to war again. We have"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "everything on the side."}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:45", "text": ">> I think I think it is a we're playing"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "chess right now with China. Yeah. China"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "and Russia."}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": ">> Yeah, we are for sure. It's a staging"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "coast to launch attacks toward us. So,"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "if we don't control that, we're at risk"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "of whoever does."}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:00", "text": ">> Well, I saw someone say that China like"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "it's like a third of their oil reserves"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "are from Venezuela. M"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> so if they no longer have a third of"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "their oil reserves, it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> dang"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:07", "text": ">> have an army."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": ">> You know, there's a lot that's the whole"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "thing. It's a power play, but you can't"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "outright say I'm trying to tank China or"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "Russia as their own. But you can't say"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "I'm doing this because I want to hurt"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "China. Yeah, that's a declaration of war"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "and you escalate things. So they just"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "say fentanyl. But Sean Ryan's getting"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "ticked. I don't know if you saw that"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "interview where he's just like he's like"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "I'm I don't have a problem that we're"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "there. He's like, \"But for the reasons"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "you're saying,\" he was like, \"We should"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "have been in Mexico a long time ago"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "because it's been fentanyl from China"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "over the Mexican border. It's Mexico,"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "Mexico.\" And he's like, \"And then you're"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "in Venezuela.\" But I really"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:44", "text": ">> benefiting. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:46", "text": ">> Yeah, for sure. But I I really think"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "it's staging. But, you know, I talked"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "about last week though where they're"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "doing the thing in Alaska. He's clearly"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "in the business of expanding. He's"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "getting rid of the EV uh incentives."}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "Like, that's all done. We're not buying"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "that anymore."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": ">> So, he's trying to go back to petroleum."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "So he's opening up Alaska. He's seizing"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "Venezuela. And is it good? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "But like we live in a fallen world."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "These like this is the way of people who"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "live by war and power."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:10", "text": ">> Yeah. And similarly though too, like"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "you're seeing a lot of talk about like"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "this should be illegal. This is so"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "racist. Whatever. And it's like one a"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "lot of the people in Venezuela are"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "celebrating this."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": ">> Yeah. That's what I was about to say."}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": ">> From what we've seen there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "people propaganda. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:25", "text": ">> I mean there's users and people that are"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "I mean who knows but like it it seems"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "like a lot of people are saying like hey"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "I'm Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:31", "text": ">> I'm celebrating this I'm excited about"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "this this is good for us"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": ">> similarly for those who are like the"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "left the right freaking out about that"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "Biden had a $26 million bounty out on"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "Maduro by the way"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:42", "text": ">> really"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:43", "text": ">> Trump just did something about it"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:44", "text": ">> I didn't know that"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:45", "text": ">> yeah I didn't know that"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:46", "text": ">> wonder if those"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> does he get the money"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:53", "text": ">> I was wonder Trump gets the money"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:55", "text": ">> I keep it finders keepers Um, yeah. But"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "when more stuff comes out, I'm excited"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "to see what happens."}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:42:59", "text": ">> Yeah, it's going to be wild."}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:01", "text": ">> That was a crazy thing, though. You"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "know, that's like stuff that would"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "happen in like the like the 70s or the"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "60s, like just"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": ">> going in and like a coup kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "Have you seen the video of the power"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "going out?"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:12", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:12", "text": ">> Did you see it?"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": ">> Okay, go ahead and say what you say."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "I'll pull it up. I have it. Everybody's"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "like, you know, all these Americans are"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "like me. But don't you feel kind of"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "cool?"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": ">> Doesn't it make you"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:26", "text": ">> We're capable. You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": ">> I mean, it's I mean, we have the"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "greatest military on the planet."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:31", "text": ">> Thank goodness it's getting revved back"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "up because for a minute there it was on"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "the decline."}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:35", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, we have the greatest"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "military in the planet and so it's cool"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "to see that like they could pull off"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "operations like that. Especially"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "hopefully it is for the greater good. We"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "will we probably will never know"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:47", "text": ">> because it may be good but then there's"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "that's just like anything like you go in"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "that's what we're there for and then"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "they have a million agendas from a"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "million different people like hey while"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "we're there while you're at the grocery"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "store can you grab me this can you grab"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "me that can you grab me this it's like"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "I'm only here for one thing with a"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "history of America forming coups and"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "countries typically"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> I would say they have not put into place"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "an amazing leader."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:11", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I hope hopefully they do that"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "with Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:16", "text": ">> Yeah, I think we were I just learned"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": ">> Well, now they might because America is"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "just like, \"Yeah, we did this. Now we're"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "going to appoint.\" So, they like kind of"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "had to put someone good in, you know,"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:25", "text": ">> who we going to nominate. Who"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "nominations open for? Here we go."}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:28", "text": ">> I'll do it."}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> Okay, fine. I'll do it. Just my arm."}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:31", "text": ">> Dang. That's a That's a political That's"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "a political stance, though. You think we"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "should appoint rather than"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:36", "text": ">> They're going to They're in control."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "said they're going to."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:39", "text": ">> Oh, I thought you were affirming that."}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> No, no."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:43", "text": ">> I'm saying they're going to do it."}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:44", "text": ">> And who are they? I got you. I thought"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "you were saying we"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:45", "text": ">> I'm saying they're going to do it and"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "I'm in support."}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:48", "text": ">> No, the Venezuelan people should be able"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "to vote for the president."}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:51", "text": ">> I was like, dang, Josh."}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:53", "text": ">> Right now, I know they have the interim"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "is the vice president."}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:54", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": ">> that if you want to go into is crazy."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": ">> It's not the same lady. The Nobel Peace"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "Prize."}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:03", "text": ">> The thing about"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": ">> with the juice?"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> I don't know. We can talk more about it"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "later though."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": ">> Yeah, maybe on the live."}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": ">> Yeah, which was last week."}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": ">> What? What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:15", "text": ">> Because this we're filming this on"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "Tuesday. We're filming the live"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:17", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:18", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": ">> Anyway,"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:21", "text": ">> confusing everyone."}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:21", "text": ">> I just learned"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:24", "text": ">> on first"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": ">> that we were partially responsible for"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "the coup in Iran, too."}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:28", "text": ">> Not partially full."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": ">> Fully responsible."}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": ">> Yeah. No. and and ushered in this era of"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "Islamic"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:36", "text": ">> dictatorship."}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": ">> What never did that?"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:39", "text": ">> Not our not our military."}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:41", "text": ">> It was Carter. Not Reagan. Reagan was"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "pro the president at the time."}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": ">> Trump's back on the train of I want"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "Greenland."}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:49", "text": ">> I want it."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:49", "text": ">> Oh yeah. He's like, I really need it"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> And Greenland's like last week year was"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "like, yeah, right. Try and take it from"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "us. And then now they're just like,"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "Um uh"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:45:59", "text": ">> you can have it."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:02", "text": ">> We could talk."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": ">> No, he literally said the day after the"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "Venezuela thing, he's like, \"I want"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "Greenland.\" He said, \"I want it. We He's"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "like, \"We actually need it.\""}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:17", "text": ">> And the Danish government's like, \"Um,"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "okay. Maybe we talk for a second or two."}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": ">> Cigarette and a bowl of heavy cream."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:25", "text": ">> Maybe share a chocolate cigarette. Four,"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "five sausages."}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "Green means go."}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, but that would be interesting."}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": ">> That would be crazy. That's just like"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "our 51st date,"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": ">> dude. What I mean, Tucker, say what you"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "will about him. He does some pretty good"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "interviews sometimes. He was talking to"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "this one guy. He's like, and Tucker"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "said,"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": ">> you see, he said, \"It seems like we're"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "moving out of the stage of a republic"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "and into an empire.\""}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> I saw that."}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:50", "text": ">> Like how Rome"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:51", "text": ">> That's where my mind was just going."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:54", "text": ">> Yeah. It was a little spooky."}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": ">> Yeah. I said to Paige,"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": ">> one thing that's happened bad at an"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "empire."}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:04", "text": ">> I go I was like this giving Star Wars"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "just a little bit."}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": ">> We sure were not the Galactic Empire."}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:09", "text": ">> Baron."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:12", "text": ">> Oh god."}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": ">> I'm your daddy."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:15", "text": ">> Bring me my saber."}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:17", "text": ">> Um but yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:18", "text": ">> Are you going to talk about the the"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "Nobel Peace Prize lady?"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Just mention it."}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:24", "text": ">> Okay. It's just an idea."}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:25", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> it's just weird."}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": ">> It was a weird connection. The lady that"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2025, which"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "I don't know her name."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:34", "text": ">> Shout out."}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": ">> Um, she is a Venezuelan activist, I"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "believe."}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:38", "text": ">> Imagine winning the Nobel Peace Prize"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "and no one knowing your name."}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:39", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:41", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:42", "text": ">> I just don't I don't know anyone's name,"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "so nothing against her."}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "Um, but what was interesting was that in"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "her speech or whatever, she um dedicated"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "her the Nobel Peace Prize to President"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "Trump."}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:56", "text": ">> Right. I saw that."}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": ">> Which is like, well, it kind of seems"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "like something was already happening"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "there. Yeah. Involving Venezuela. And"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "then there was talks about potentially"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "appointing her as president of"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "Venezuela. And what was very"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "interesting, what she said, which was"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "just seemed completely out of left"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "field, but you could go down a whole"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "rabbit trail. Rabbit hole. Rabbit trail."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:14", "text": ">> Both."}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:16", "text": ">> Both."}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:16", "text": ">> They're interchangeable, I think, at"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "this point."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:22", "text": ">> Um, is she said basically, this is an"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "amazing day for freedom and something"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "along the lines of like if I am"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "appointed president or leader of"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "Venezuela, one of the first actions I'll"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "do is um put a Venezuelan embassy in"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "Israel. It's like"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:37", "text": ">> they all say that it's literally like a"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "canned"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:40", "text": ">> That's weird."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": ">> Like why would that be the first thing?"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": ">> I know a lot of you out there like get"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "into it more. You talk about it more."}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> You're on the right path."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:48", "text": ">> Keep going."}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:49", "text": ">> Keep going."}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:53", "text": ">> Keep going."}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": ">> We're not going there."}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:55", "text": ">> We're not going to get weird. It's just"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:58", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, we did set up an embassy"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "for this podcast in Israel as soon as we"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "started."}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:01", "text": ">> We did. We did. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:02", "text": ">> Remember when they invited us there?"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "Yeah, that's why"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:04", "text": ">> we'll pay we'll pay for your flights."}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "We'll pay you for your food."}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:07", "text": ">> That's why we hit a million subs on"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "YouTube, dude. And then we just slowed"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "down because we said no."}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:11", "text": ">> Oh, dang."}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": ">> Like, all you got to do is just say some"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "nice stuff about Israel."}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:17", "text": ">> I'm just saying someone controls this"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "world. I don't know who."}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:20", "text": ">> God does."}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": ">> God does. Um,"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:24", "text": ">> and his opposition would be the people"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "who"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": ">> Did you guys hear about this uh"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "this uh movement that's happening right"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "now where people are doing uh federal"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "income tax strike?"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:34", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:35", "text": ">> How do you do that? How do I join?"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:36", "text": ">> Everybody"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:37", "text": ">> don't pay federal taxes."}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:39", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:39", "text": ">> They can't get us if we're a unified"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "front."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:41", "text": ">> No, but"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:42", "text": ">> they really couldn't. That would be"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "everyone just said"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": ">> that's what everyone's saying. They said"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "it would take at least 1 million people"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "in the United States"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:55", "text": ">> to say, \"I'm not paying federal tax"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:57", "text": ">> because one, the um Pentagon has failed"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "the eighth audit in a row.\""}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:00", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": ">> Trillions of dollars are missing. Uh"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "this whole Doge thing, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "exposing the government of mishandling"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "funds, the the Minnesota stuff,"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:09", "text": ">> the stuff going on."}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:10", "text": ">> So people are like, \"Why are we paying"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "taxes?\""}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:13", "text": ">> Literally, why are we paying taxes?"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "We're all busting our tails out here and"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "Minnesota is giving millions of dollars"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "away to empty daycarees."}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:21", "text": ">> Yeah. And I'm telling you now, everyone,"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "I'm paying federal income taxes. I am"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "scared."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:24", "text": ">> But if everyone does it, we'll do with"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> You guys do it though."}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": ">> It's like wearing cloaks. Everyone I"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "want to wear a cloak, but everyone's"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "also got to wear clothes."}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": ">> I can't be the weirdo."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": ">> Exactly. Josh, just this stat is what"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "made me sick. What the lady that won the"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "lottery, what did she end up getting?"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": ">> It was a $1.8 8 billion Powerball ticket"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "that she won."}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:45", "text": ">> 1.8 billion."}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:47", "text": ">> 1.8 billion."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": ">> How much did she take home?"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": ">> Okay. Uh 1.8 billion. What did they"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "take? 30%."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:53", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": ">> No. I'm I'm going to say I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "say she took home like 850 mil."}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:50:59", "text": ">> No, I'm saying like how much tax like"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "taxes is is it 30%."}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:01", "text": ">> Well, that's what we're trying to that's"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "what we're debating."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:04", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:09", "text": ">> No, you're in a higher tax bracket."}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": ">> Okay. I don't know. I would say"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "500 million."}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:12", "text": ">> Okay. Eight."}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:13", "text": ">> Yeah. You said 800."}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Eight."}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:18", "text": ">> You were closer. It was actually like"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "$432 million or take away."}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:20", "text": ">> What are we doing?"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:21", "text": ">> So that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:22", "text": ">> It's that"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": ">> like 60%."}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": ">> You pay taxes. You take you pay taxes on"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "your income. You pay taxes when you go"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "to the grocery store. You pay taxes when"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "you do this. When you do that,"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:34", "text": ">> on your property"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": ">> on your property. And it's like taxation"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "is castration. Kirk Cameron, get in"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": ">> I owe Ronda Santis an apology. I don't"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "agree with everything, but I went off"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "cuz I I did the whole thing where like"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "if he does the property tax thing, it"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "actually it seems like it's for"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "everybody, but it actually would benefit"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "the land owners, which is predominantly"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "not single family. I don't know if you"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "guys saw he I he didn't adjust. He"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "clarified probably because people like"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "me were talking when they didn't know"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "what they were talking about. But it's"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "for the homestead exemption. So if you"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "own multiple properties, the only one"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "that gets the property tax break is the"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "one your primary that you live in. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "I see. Yeah. So it is straight up like"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "if you're I mean even you got like three"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "Airbnbs, it doesn't count on all of"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "them. It's the house you're in. So it"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "actually would benefit all of us."}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": ">> Oh, that's great."}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": ">> So I'm hoping that Florida property tax"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "does disappear."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": ">> You just go you have to wonder like what"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "are they spending all of this money on?"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": ">> Yeah. And the all the schools are like"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "literally like kids are like"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "disappearing. Like this is one of the"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "fastest growing areas, but there's like"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "the school that Paige was at, they like"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "dropped six teachers last year because"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "they're like losing students"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": ">> and and the education is subpar. And"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "that's everybody was crapping on Trump"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "for this whole like defunding the"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "Department of Education, but it's like"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "what's going on with our Department of"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "Education? What's going happen? What's"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "going on with our education?"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:56", "text": ">> Dude, I saw I saw a uh he was on Kill"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "Tony and I don't want to steal his bit."}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "I forget his name. Anyways, go to you"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "can find the bit. But he's talking he's"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "saying he's like the greatest popcorn"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "reader. He like he does a bit about it."}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "But I'm like thinking about the fact"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "that that's like a normal part. Did you"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "guys ever do that in class? You know"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "what popcorn really is?"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:14", "text": ">> But like think about how jacked up that"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "is as something that teachers like we"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "all know what it is. But the fact that"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "it was allowed to happen. He was like"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "like kids would like it became a game to"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "like find the person who can't read."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "That's a part of American education is"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "just bullying people with dyslexia with"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "learning disabilities. And it's like,"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "but that's the structure of putting 30"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "kids in a room with one teacher and"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "expecting the teacher to occupy them."}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> But if you are bullied, it typically"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "makes you funny."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:37", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:38", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:40", "text": ">> that's true."}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:40", "text": ">> We're just creating comedians out here."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:41", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:42", "text": ">> We're doing our best."}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": ">> Happened to me, it could happen to you."}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:46", "text": ">> Dumb, insecure people become funny."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:49", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:49", "text": ">> Let's make America funny again."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:52", "text": ">> Hey."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, but you guys should probably"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "still pay your taxes cuz you might"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "really get in trouble. Unless you don't"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "and like millions of you get all get"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "together and say we're not doing it."}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:06", "text": ">> I mean, we have a million subscribers."}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Let us know. Everyone comment"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "you're not doing it and we'll join with"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": ">> Yeah. But really,"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:16", "text": ">> yeah. Um, speaking of not paying your"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "taxes, did you know that uh I have a"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "crazy story about a lake monster?"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:26", "text": ">> And I have a crazy story about soccer"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "that involves death."}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "Don't go anywhere."}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "Hey folks, it's your friend Rave Damy"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "here. Sorry for the interruption, but"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "listen, New Year's is finally among us."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "And like a gator at a public park splash"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "pad, I couldn't be more excited. And"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "since I got you here with me, I figured"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "I'd share some of my New Year's"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "resolutions with y'all. So, here we go."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "Number one, learn to play the accordion."}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "I've always wanted to, but it looks like"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "a hoot. Number two, perfect my apricot"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "habanero jam. Sounds pretty good, right?"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "Number three, finally get that North"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "Dakota hit and run charge expuned from"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "my record. It was an accident and almost"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "no one got hurt. And number four, order"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "custom merch from sundaycool.com for the"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "42nd annual Tampa Bay Seafood and"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "Sunshine Festival. And finally, number"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "five, I'd like to see my kids again. So"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "Cynthia, I know you're watching. Please"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "return my calls. Speaking of calls, give"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "me a call anytime. 1800 8650726."}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "Happy New Year's, y'all. Let's get back"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "to the show."}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:32", "text": ">> Did you guys see that story about the um"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "the police officer uniforms the NYPD"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "found?"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": ">> She told me about it. Is that nuts?"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "There's like 20 uniforms in a box on the"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "side of the street in New York City."}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:42", "text": ">> Legitimate uniforms that they like they"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "found them and they're like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "these are legit"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:46", "text": ">> and they belong to some police officer"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "apparently.\" But"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:51", "text": ">> also want to apologize to everyone that"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "thought we were we got too political."}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "Because we're really not political"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "people. It"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": ">> It's apolitical."}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": ">> No, we're anti-political."}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "We believe in an empire"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": ">> by political."}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": ">> We believe in the kingdom of heaven."}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": ">> Um, so you don't think it was a scop?"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "Why would one police officer have 200"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "uniforms?"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:13", "text": ">> I have no idea. Not a clue. I don't"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "know. It's kind of like"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:16", "text": ">> weird."}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Like why drop those on the street?"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "Especially if they're legit"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": ">> with this some like a plan gone wrong or"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:24", "text": ">> What was the rapture? But just the men"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "in blue raptured."}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:27", "text": ">> That'd be unique."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:29", "text": ">> I mean, if you're walking around in in"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "in like New York City and you have a"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "uniform on, no one's going to say"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "anything. Like no one's like you have a"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "legitimate one on, like no one's going"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "to be like, \"Hey, are you legit?\" Like"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:36", "text": ">> I know"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:37", "text": ">> you can just do whatever you want."}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": ">> Dude, that goes to show like remember to"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "ask them to show their badge if they"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "ever come."}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": ">> But that was a legit thing. So, like I"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "mean like they had it was legitimate"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "stuff. So, who knows if they're like the"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "badges and stuff were still on. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "I don't know, man. I don't know how that"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "works. But"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": ">> if I held up a piece of gold or silver,"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "whatever,"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:55", "text": ">> would you be able to tell me if it was"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "an official? Yeah. Me either."}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:57", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:56:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:56:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:56:59", "text": ">> Don't touch anybody."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:00", "text": ">> Show me your behind."}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Show me your booty."}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": ">> If he does, then he wasn't a cop."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:08", "text": ">> Then he's lying."}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": ">> And if he does, it's a good day for you."}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": ">> If you're a cop, then shoot me."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:16", "text": ">> Prove it."}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> One of the comments was that apparently"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "a ton of police uniforms went missing"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "from a local laundromat like a month"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "prior."}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:23", "text": ">> Weird."}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> So maybe someone stole all of them and"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "then threw them on the ground to scare"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:29", "text": ">> because this all could be a big like a"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "reverse scop where we're like"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:32", "text": ">> I think a scup is just a scop."}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:33", "text": ">> Yeah. But in the way that we weren't"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "originally thinking."}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": ">> A reverse scop is nothing happening."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> So no,"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": ">> it's reality."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "Uh, speaking of reality questioner,"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "questioner question with Lily, where the"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "questions are fresh on her mind."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:49", "text": ">> This one is very gross."}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:50", "text": ">> Yum."}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:51", "text": ">> Very gross. Are you ready?"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:52", "text": ">> Ready."}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": ">> Would you rather?"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": ">> Have to lick a stranger's foot. But that"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "foot has athletes foot on it."}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:04", "text": ">> Which which isn't like I mean it's like"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "gross."}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:06", "text": ">> It's ringorm."}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:08", "text": ">> Do I get to pick this ranger?"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": ">> It's fungal. Yeah. So, you probably are"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "going to walk away with something"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "or lick a stranger's armpit who has"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "really bad bo"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:18", "text": ">> armpit."}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:20", "text": ">> Yuck."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:20", "text": ">> Do you get to pick the person?"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:22", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:25", "text": ">> no. It's a stranger. It's a stranger."}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:26", "text": ">> You get to pick the stranger."}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:27", "text": ">> Do I get to walk around Disney and say,"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "\"All right, that person.\""}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:29", "text": ">> Well, how do you know that they have"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "athletes foot?"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:34", "text": ">> If if everyone around me has stinky"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "armpits and also athletes foot, and I"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "get to just pick a person. No, but if"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "you could, who would you pick? What"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "would they look like? Describe them."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": ">> Long hair, tattoos. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:48", "text": ">> I don't know. But I'm saying like I"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "don't like I mean there's there's"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "obviously like I don't want I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "but like a 300 lb man who's been walking"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "out all day, taps you on the shoulder."}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:58", "text": ">> I'd rather just maybe like some like"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "skinny nerd, you know, kid and he's"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "like, \"Hey, here's an armpit for a"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "licking.\""}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": ">> Sometimes nerds stink worse though, too,"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Just le question."}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": ">> It's a good question. It's a good qu. I"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "would do foot. I would do foot death."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "Could I just die? I do the armpit."}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:18", "text": ">> I feel like the armpit"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:20", "text": ">> is wise because"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:21", "text": ">> you get liquid with the armpit."}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:22", "text": ">> Do you get"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:22", "text": ">> liquid on the feet?"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:24", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:26", "text": ">> No. Athlete foot. I mean, you're you're"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "thinking it's going to be just a quick"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": ">> dry lick. It's be gross."}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> It's dry, but you're probably walking"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "away with fungus on your tongue. You're"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "probably going to get fungus. about the"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "what's the displacement of the tongue"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "and the length of the lick?"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:41", "text": ">> You got to go."}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:47", "text": ">> All right, Andrew. Hit us with that be."}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:49", "text": ">> Hey, you're you're you're being mean."}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:51", "text": ">> Andrew has a real"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:53", "text": ">> and you're changing the subject"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:54", "text": ">> cuz I didn't like it."}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:59", "text": ">> Too bad."}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:03", "text": ">> I'm going to puke. Please do."}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "Show us that real."}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "Speaking of"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "uh nothing, I got chased by one of these"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "one time. This is crazy. You like uh"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "aquariums and the underwater"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:15", "text": ">> sort"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:17", "text": ">> under the sea."}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:21", "text": ">> Volume is safe on both of these, but"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "let's watch the water one first when it"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "decides to appear. Appear"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": ">> under the sea."}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "Everything's better down where it's"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "weather under the sea."}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "I started sending these when I started"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "playing the beat and they're like 5"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "seconds long each."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": ">> What if it gets flagged for that?"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:55", "text": ">> Should I just start over?"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": ">> Start over."}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "Turn around."}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:00", "text": ">> While that's sending, can I actually"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "tell you guys a story about the sea?"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:03", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:05", "text": ">> Please. Very short, but it's very cool."}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:06", "text": ">> I just saw it. St. Augustine."}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:12", "text": ">> St. Augustine. The Saint"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:13", "text": ">> the man. St. Augustine."}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:16", "text": ">> Augustine."}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": ">> He was walking along the ocean one day."}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:19", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:21", "text": ">> And he was contemplating. He was really"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "trying to figure out the Trinity."}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:25", "text": ">> He said, \"How can God be three persons"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "in one?\" Mhm."}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:29", "text": ">> And while he's walking, there's a little"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "boy and he had a hole and he was going"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "back and forth from the ocean to this"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "hole, carrying a shell of water and"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "dumping the shell of water into the"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "hole. And Sarah and said, \"What are you"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "doing?\" And he says, \"I'm going to put"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "the whole sea into this hole.\" And he"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "says, \"That's impossible.\" And then the"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "little boy looked at him and he said,"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "\"And it is even more impossible for you"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "to comprehend the mystery of the Trinity"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "with your human mind.\""}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:02:00", "text": ">> Wow. and the boy disappeared."}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": ">> That's crazy. Could you imagine? You be"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:04", "text": ">> \"Dang, that's encouraging though.\""}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:06", "text": ">> Is that crazy?"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:07", "text": ">> I remember last year my goal was to to"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "like to understand how to articulate the"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "trinity and it's like you never will."}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:14", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, you can I think in a way"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "you just got there takes a lot of like"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "you very careful verbiage"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "but that's the thing. You don't like"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "that you can explain it but it doesn't"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "mean it's understandable."}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> That's that's the difference. People"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "think of you like, \"Oh, just explain it"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "to a point where people can understand.\""}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "It's like, \"No, like the mystery of the"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "gospel.\" That's the whole flipping"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "point."}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:34", "text": ">> It's like, I don't want a God that I can"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "understand."}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": ">> That'd be insane. That would Imagine the"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "God I could understand."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": ">> Like fully fully understand. It would"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "just be like the saddest creature in the"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "world. It' be the worst world of all"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> Where's your reel?"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:51", "text": ">> Did it not show up? It's showing that"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "it's here."}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": ">> There everywhere. You can airdrop it."}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:56", "text": ">> Yeah. All right, let's switch up. This"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "is"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": ">> I have I have Instagram."}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:02", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:06", "text": ">> If that's helpful. I deleted it, but I"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "just have to search it."}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:11", "text": ">> I literally"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:12", "text": ">> That's so weird. It's showing that."}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:13", "text": ">> You got to like update your phone or"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "something."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": ">> I don't know. I guess"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:17", "text": ">> you got that new phone."}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:20", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:21", "text": ">> Dang. I feel like my phone's acting"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "slower and it's simply because we have"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "that new one out. Did it Did those show"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "up?"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:27", "text": ">> Nothing showed up."}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:27", "text": ">> Golly."}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": ">> Whoa. What was that?"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": ">> Did you guys hear that?"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:38", "text": ">> Is your airrop scared? That wasn't me."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:39", "text": ">> No, I don't know how to do that."}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:42", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": ">> Oh my goodness, guys."}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:45", "text": ">> This is crazy."}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": ">> Where do I go to do that?"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:50", "text": ">> Swipe down from here."}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:53", "text": ">> Explaining air drop to Lily."}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": ">> Where? Josh, accept the airdrop."}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:55", "text": ">> Accept it."}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:57", "text": ">> I got it."}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:58", "text": ">> Swipe down from where?"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:02", "text": ">> Okay. And then what button?"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": ">> And then hit that icon."}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:08", "text": ">> There's an icon."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:08", "text": ">> That icon. But I did get your text."}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:10", "text": ">> Here we go."}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:12", "text": ">> Do you want to see what it is?"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": ">> This is what mine looks like."}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:15", "text": ">> All right. The blue one first."}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:18", "text": ">> All right. Ready?"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": ">> Nope. Just kidding."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": ">> Three, two, one, go. This doesn't look"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "like it'll be gross."}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:25", "text": ">> It's not."}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:32", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": ">> That is a Mory."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:41", "text": ">> She screamed a good 3 seconds before I"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "even saw."}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:46", "text": ">> It probably would have made me jump,"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "too, but I was prepped."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:48", "text": ">> Is your arm okay?"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:50", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:51", "text": ">> That has to be AI. You can go frame by"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "frame. It is not."}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:55", "text": ">> Dang. That makes total sense. I knew"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "something was going to come out. It had"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "been watching him for a while, I bet."}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "Dang."}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:03", "text": ">> Oh, he's big, dude."}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:04", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yikes."}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:05", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:06", "text": ">> GET OUT OF MY HOME."}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:09", "text": ">> IS THAT AN AIRPLANE that crashed?"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:13", "text": ">> Looks like just little re"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:13", "text": ">> gave me a headache screaming like that."}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> That's a good one. This next one's so"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "good. I love the audio only people that"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "are just like listening to this. They"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "they can't see what they're we're seeing"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "and so they just hear a scream."}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:29", "text": ">> All right. Three, two, one, go."}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": ">> Says the buddy who bought illegal"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "fireworks. This is you and your brother."}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "I imagine as kids."}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:36", "text": ">> This literally looks like the thing from"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "Mulan."}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:38", "text": ">> Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:40", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:41", "text": ">> Had that backwards. That's funny."}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:43", "text": ">> Dude, don't."}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": ">> Come on, dude. Shout out to my neighbors"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "who've kept us up for like the last five"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "days."}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:49", "text": ">> Bro, what's up? There should be a rule."}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "There is."}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:54", "text": ">> There is. It's the It's the or noise"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "ordinance about to start citizen"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "arresting people. I told Paige I'm like"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "getting really close to being a petty"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "old man with like bottle rockets and"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "just finds the houses doing it. You get"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "one night at a reasonable like period."}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:06", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. But I'm up I"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "typically wake up early and I'm this"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "close to being the guy who's just like"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "literally in the street lighting off"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "firecrackers at 6:00 am in front of"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "their house."}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:18", "text": ">> I'm just like it's New Year's Eve only"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "in anticipation for the new year."}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:21", "text": ">> Even still after 12:00 let's just let's"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "chill out."}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:26", "text": ">> There's a dude it was like 2:00 a.m. and"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "like the big ones I mean we're close"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "enough that is probably the same exact"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "firework."}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:32", "text": ">> Oh my gosh, that's awful."}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:33", "text": ">> We have like nobody in our area so I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "fine with it. I think they should keep"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "it up."}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "Dang."}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:37", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't hear any. So,"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:38", "text": ">> that's pretty sad. Nobody likes to light"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "fireworks in"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> just trade houses with you during this"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "town so much. There's no one else around"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "us."}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:44", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:45", "text": ">> which is nice."}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:47", "text": ">> Do you guys want to talk about a dark"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "story?"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:51", "text": ">> How dark?"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:52", "text": ">> Like pretty dark."}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:55", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": ">> It was I saw this video yesterday. I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "like, \"Oh my gosh, I never knew about"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "this stuff. This is really terrible."}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "This is terrible. A terrible story.\""}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:04", "text": ">> I'm fine with that. The"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:06", "text": ">> It's reality, baby."}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": ">> The Rwanda genocide of 1994."}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:09", "text": ">> Jeez. OP, dude."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:10", "text": ">> What year?"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> 1994."}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:12", "text": ">> That's recent."}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:13", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:13", "text": ">> Who are they committing genocide"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "against?"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:19", "text": ">> Listen, so this video, YouTube, I've"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "talked about it multiple times. Penguin"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "History Yeah. does phenomenal videos."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "so this event in Rwanda was against the"}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "it was these two tribes or these two"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "people, ethnic groups in Rwanda called"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "the Tootszie and the Hoou."}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "And the HOU decided that they needed to"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "eradicate the Tootsies from Rwanda."}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": ">> And sounds like a pretty cute war."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:50", "text": ">> Yeah, it was not."}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": ">> I mean, on paper, it sounds"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:53", "text": ">> terrible. This was a terrible event."}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:55", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:58", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "but this uh so it was this started"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "happening six months after the Blackhawk"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "Down event in Somalia."}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:12", "text": ">> So this plays into the whole story the"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "whole event. So the the Hoou the Hoous"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "were basically persecuting the the"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "Tootsies in Rwanda. And um what happened"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "was one month in they're just blasting"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "this propaganda all over the radio"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "saying that the the Tootsie people"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "they're cockroaches and we need to"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "exterminate the cockroaches because they"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "want to enslave us and like all this"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:37", "text": ">> And so just all these hootsie people"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "just started grabbing machetes, grabbing"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "guns and within the first month they"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "killed 300,000 tootsie people."}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:47", "text": ">> Whoa. It gets worse"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:48", "text": ">> just because they were told to."}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, because this whole"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "propaganda machine of like these are the"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "bad people."}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:57", "text": ">> Fear does crazy things."}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:09:01", "text": ">> And so this was happening and the UN met"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:03", "text": ">> with the United States and stuff and"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "they actually as a result of this"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "happening they pulled out of Rwanda. The"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "UN pulled out 90% of their peacekeepers"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "in Rwanda. pulled them out."}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:18", "text": ">> Just said they didn't want to pardon it."}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:22", "text": ">> Yes. And Bill Clinton and them they they"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "refused to call it a genocide because it"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "was this um the act the 1948 genocide"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "convention basically saying that if"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "something is a genocide the UN has to"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "get involved."}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "And so but the US Bill Clinton they"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "never called it genocide. They said"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "genoc genocide"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "um what do they call it? Acts of"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "genocide. Got it."}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": ">> So legally they weren't declaring it"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "genocide. They're just saying it's acts"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "of genocide."}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:54", "text": ">> I didn't cheat on you. Just an act of"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "adultery."}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:57", "text": ">> Right. Just a it's a the shape of"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "genocide."}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:03", "text": ">> Exactly. Um so we're at this point when"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "they decide to do this pull out their"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "90%. We're 6 weeks into this"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": ">> war this genocide. 500,000 people dead"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "in Rwanda."}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:14", "text": ">> Gosh."}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:17", "text": ">> Um, and during this thing, instead of"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "the US getting involved, they decided to"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "come up with a presidential decision"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "directive 25, which is a policy that"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "makes it even harder for the US to"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "support UN missions that don't serve"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "vital national interests. So while this"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "is happening, Bill Clinton comes out"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "with the um presidential decision"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "directive 25 saying that if it's doesn't"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "benefit the US at all, we're not going"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "to get involved. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:43", "text": ">> it was a direct"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:45", "text": ">> correlation with what was happening in"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "Rwanda. Completely ignoring what was"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "but then the UN's like, well, we got to"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "do something. So they deployed 5,500"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "peacekeeping troops to Rwanda, but they"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "didn't arm them. They gave him zero"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "transportation, but what these these"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "peacekeepers did, like a couple of them"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "were just absolutely amazing, hiding the"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "Tootsie people. Like they saved tens of"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "thousands of lives. Just these small"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "groups of men that had no weapons. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:15", "text": ">> Wow. It's amazing. Were they believers"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "or"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:17", "text": ">> uh I don't know."}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:18", "text": ">> Just peaceful people."}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:19", "text": ">> Just peacekeepers. And they were their"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "job."}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:21", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:22", "text": ">> They probably felt like just like fish"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "in a barrel at that point. Like we're"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "just like we're going to get caught"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "protecting these people. We're going to"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "die. We have no way to protect"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "ourselves."}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": ">> Yeah. That's so scary."}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:34", "text": ">> Yeah. But this is the crazy part. Um the"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "UN suggested to the United States like,"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "\"Hey, why don't we you guys send in"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "planes and stuff to jam their radio"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "signals?\" Cuz this is how it's being fed"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "is like these guys are just listening to"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "this propaganda, this radio and"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "communication."}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:52", "text": ">> And this is the Pentagon's response to"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "that request. They said um someone said"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "just said the Pentagon would uh they"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "said that it would go against the"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "constitutional principle of the freedom"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "of speech."}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:07", "text": ">> That's"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:08", "text": ">> so the Pentagon refused to do it because"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "it's like well that would just go"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "against their freedom of speech."}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:14", "text": ">> Yeah, that's so they're so blatantly not"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "wanting to get in."}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:18", "text": ">> I mean that's such a tough thing to just"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "argue because you're obviously that's"}, {"start": "01:12:18", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "their warfare. Like that's the like the"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "warfare they're choosing to go with is"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "just propaganda."}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:26", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:29", "text": ">> that sucks."}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:31", "text": ">> It was Yeah, it was terrible. Um but"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "ultimately the Tootsie tribe, they were"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "eventually able to create a safe haven"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "and form a peace deal with the Hoodie or"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "the Hoous, I mean. Um but the conflict,"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "it lasted a total of 100 days"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:46", "text": ">> and over 800,000 people were killed."}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:47", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Wow."}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:49", "text": ">> 800,000."}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:53", "text": ">> 800,000. And it wasn't declared a"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "genocide until after it stopped."}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:55", "text": ">> How did it end?"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:56", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:57", "text": ">> just a peace deal and stuff."}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:00", "text": ">> Yeah, just a peace deal. But they were"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "they were able to negotiate who they put"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "a hoou as the president of um Rwanda."}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:09", "text": ">> And so they're like, \"Oh, we won now.\""}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:09", "text": ">> But the it was just a formality."}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:14", "text": ">> Cuz the real person in charge was the"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "vice president who was a Tootsie and he"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "was actually aligned with the United"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "States of America. And what because my"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "whole thing was like well how did why"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "didn't America get involved and did they"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "actually benefit from this potential"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:29", "text": "change in power with these people being"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "wiped out like I don't know and"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "basically what it did was Rwanda for the"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "longest time was under French control"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "and after this genocide it was now under"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "US control because the vice president"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "was basically like buddy buddies with"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "America and western interests"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:47", "text": ">> thanks"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": ">> but what it did was it opened up trade"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "routes from the Congo."}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "So in the Congo, it was like newly"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "discovered stuff of like cobalt,"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "um, gold and tin. So now the US had full"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "access to the Congo resources through"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "Rwanda."}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:05", "text": ">> And so they were just waiting on that"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "change of power."}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:07", "text": ">> They won't say that."}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:10", "text": ">> But that's Yeah, you can't you can't say"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:14", "text": ">> They just needed to benefit from it."}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "Golly, man. But it's like you don't"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "That's crazy that you don't I The only"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "time I ever heard about the tragedy in"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "Rwanda was from the movie Hotel. Was it"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "Hotel Rwanda?"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:22", "text": ">> That's the what it's about."}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:25", "text": ">> I did not know that."}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And what's really messed up, it"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "was super sad. At the beginning of this"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "video, they showed that these uh UNMP"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "peacekeepers that were armed at the very"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "beginning of the conflict went into this"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "con this village and all these Tootsie"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "people were like, \"We're surrounded."}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "They're about to kill us.\" And the UN"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "peacekeepers, their only job was to get"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "Westerners out. And so they they got the"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "Westerners, drove out of there, and then"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "all of a sudden you hear,"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:53", "text": ">> \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:54", "text": ">> oh my gosh,"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:55", "text": ">> that's so tough. Terrible."}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:58", "text": ">> That's so tough.\""}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:00", "text": ">> But it just made me so"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "frustrated of just like we could have"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "gotten involved."}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:06", "text": ">> The world could have gotten involved."}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Saved a thousands thou and"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "thousands of people."}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:12", "text": ">> Yeah. But it didn't it didn't go with"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "our national interest and like it was"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "America that had the the veto power or"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "whatever within the UN"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:18", "text": ">> to basically say no let's not get"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "involved."}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:22", "text": ">> Like no we just want to stay out of it."}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "And Bill Clinton's thing I would say was"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "a little selfish because he was getting"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "bad press because of the black blackhawk"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "down event."}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:31", "text": ">> So he was trying to save face and be"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "like well we're not going to I'm not"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "going to send people over there."}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:35", "text": ">> Yeah. you know,"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:36", "text": ">> because a lot of people aren't going to"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "understand why you're getting involved"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "with the war all the way over there."}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:43", "text": ">> I know it was a different time and like"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "it was like I know people were super"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "super mad about the Somalian thing."}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:48", "text": ">> So, I could understand it's just like"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "yeah, you don't want more US soldiers"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "dying in Africa if it doesn't interest"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "us at all. But at the same time, it's"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "like 800,000 people."}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:56", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's do what's right."}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:15:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:00", "text": ">> It's so hard. It's so hard. You got to"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "talk about where the money comes from."}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "You got to talk about, you know, Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "all over the globe, fallen world,"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "there's really a lot of these situations"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "just don't have a a good outcome."}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:16", "text": ">> I'd love to know the breakdown of like"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "military power like in the UN, like"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "we're a global power, but like how much"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "when they say like we should do"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "something. I feel like a lot of times"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "it's like being the person who's"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "actually going to do it in a meeting."}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "Like when people are like, \"Hey, we"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "should do this.\" And you're like"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:31", "text": ">> everyone's like looking at the US."}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:33", "text": ">> Yeah. It's like, \"Oh, you guys should"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "like I agree. We'll send like five"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "people. You guys send the rest.\" It's"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "like, \"Well, no, we need you to do it.\""}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:42", "text": ">> And I don't know. I don't know anything"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "around it. It just I know that these"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "global issues suck."}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:48", "text": ">> Yes, they do."}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:49", "text": ">> Anyways, that was a terrible story."}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:52", "text": ">> That's terrible. But"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:54", "text": ">> hear another Go ahead. I guess Bill Bill"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "Clinton can make mistakes."}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:58", "text": ">> In fact, he made a lot of them."}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:00", "text": ">> He made a ton of mistakes. You talk name"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "name five."}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:05", "text": ">> I can name two."}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:06", "text": ">> Well, it's not five."}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:09", "text": ">> Sounds pretty good to me."}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:09", "text": ">> Not my bill."}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:15", "text": ">> 49 surfers died in fishing nets off of"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "Brazil's coast."}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:19", "text": ">> What? Apparently over it's over the"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "course of so many years, but apparently"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "illegal fishing and pe fishermen who are"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "illegal illegally disposing of nets off"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "the coast apparently several times"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "during big swells and crazy tides. Surf"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "will be in the lineup and then like"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "catch a wave, get all wrapped up and"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "literally trying to get back to the"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "surface is just caught in a net and"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "drowns."}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:43", "text": ">> Nightmare."}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:45", "text": ">> I just like that's the entire story."}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "Stab Magazine's a dope surfing resource"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "and it's like, you know, pay to play and"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "I didn't pay and read the article."}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "That's like their headline. I did a"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "little digging, but it's absolutely I"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "just like thinking of dying that way."}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:17:56", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:17:59", "text": ">> Is miserable cuz you're not like hit in"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "the head and drowned. You're like trying"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "to figure out how to get out of the net."}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:04", "text": ">> Imagine how the fish feel."}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": ">> I was going to say this. They literally"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "die and they know exactly how a sea"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "turtle feels."}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:10", "text": ">> It's terrible. It's not the same. That's"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:14", "text": ">> I know it's not the same. It's just sad."}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "No, I know. I was I said to the same"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "joke, though. I'm condemning myself."}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:20", "text": ">> I see."}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:21", "text": ">> Maybe they're trying to catch mermaids,"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "though."}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:23", "text": ">> That's true. And they just were"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "unsuccessful,"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:24", "text": ">> dude."}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:31", "text": ">> What did it say? Only only 47. Is that"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "what 49 surfers, but if you catch one,"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "is it worth it?"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:35", "text": ">> One mermaid,"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:36", "text": ">> I would say. So, it's a good ratio."}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:40", "text": ">> No. Aydah said the other day because"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "there was like a a thumbnail or"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "something for one of the pirate movies"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "and it had the mermaid. She said, \"Dad,"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "I didn't know there was a pirate movie"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "with mermaids in it.\" I said, \"Yeah, but"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "those are bad mermaids.\" I like, \"What"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "do you mean?\" I said, \"You don't want to"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "know. They're bad mermaids.\""}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:56", "text": ">> Trust me, Aydah. Grab her cheeks just"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "like in uh"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:00", "text": ">> You don't want to find out."}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:02", "text": ">> Speaking of Brazil,"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:03", "text": ">> I got a Brazil story."}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:03", "text": ">> Brazil."}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:04", "text": ">> Brazil."}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:07", "text": ">> Brazil."}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:10", "text": ">> This is a real story. about a referee"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "that made a call so controversial"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "he didn't leave the stadium alive."}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:17", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:20", "text": ">> Here we go. All right. So, in 2013,"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "there was this uh amateur uh soccer"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "match that was happening. And so, uh"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "this referee who was a volunteer at the"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "time, he's a 20-year-old kid. Octavia D"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "Silva is his name. And he's uh"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:34", "text": ">> he's refing the game and it's a full"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "packed crowd and they're having a great"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "time. But the thing is the people who"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "were playing the two teams were had a"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "lot of beef. There was a lot of heated"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "um exchanges. There was a lot of bad"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "calls apparently and it just kept"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "getting more and more and more and more"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "intense. And so in the second half"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "they're uh you know it's still pretty"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "heated. One guy uh makes a"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "unsportsmanlike move. The referee"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "Octavia pulls out a red card, ejects him"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "from the game. The guy leaves then comes"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "back to the referee and starts getting"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "in his face. The team members are"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "holding him back. The crowd's going"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "crazy. The player takes a swing and"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "punches the ref in the face. And at that"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "point, everyone's freaking out. But then"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "the referee reaches into his pocket and"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "pulls out a knife. This 20-year-old kid"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "pulls out a knife and starts stabbing"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "the player repeatedly."}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:28", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:29", "text": ">> They break up the fight. They break up"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "the fight. They take the player and they"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "bring him off field and they start"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "rushing to the hospital. He dies on the"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "way to the hospital."}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:37", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:40", "text": ">> It's in 2013. So, people start finding"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "out that he died. His friends, his"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "family, the fans, everyone in the crowd"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "starts getting notified that this dude"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "just died in the hospital on the way to"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "the hospital. And so, the fans start"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "losing their minds. They're still"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "playing the game. The referee's still on"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "the field."}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:20:59", "text": ">> They start throwing food at this"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "referee. They stop the game. They start"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "throwing food. Then people have access"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "to rocks somehow and start picking up"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "rocks, jumping onto uh the the pitch."}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:12", "text": ">> Nice term. They jump onto the pitch,"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "they grab rocks, and they start stoning"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "this guy. The guy falls down and a group"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "of fans and this gets gruesome."}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:21", "text": ">> This is like trigger warning."}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> Trigger warning."}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:23", "text": ">> We should probably put one at the"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "beginning of this episode"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:29", "text": ">> probably. So the fans surround this"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "referee and start beating him to death."}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "They grab his limbs"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:36", "text": ">> and without tools or weapons, they"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "quarter this guy"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:38", "text": ">> like back in the day with like a horse"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:45", "text": ">> Yes. They literally rip his limbs off"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "his body and it only gets worse from"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "here. They take off his head."}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:51", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:53", "text": ">> They remove his head on the pitch and"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "they put it on a steak in the middle of"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "the goal."}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:22:00", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. absolutely gruesome. It's"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "terrible. And there's just, you know,"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "like there's a ton of information about"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "it online, but a lot of people when they"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "heard the story, they're like, \"There's"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "no way this is real. This isn't real.\""}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "It's a one Google search. It's very,"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "very clear. This happened in 2013."}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "Absolutely awful. And believe it or not,"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "only one person was arrested."}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:21", "text": ">> What is that not nuts?"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "Only one person cuz just there was just"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "too many people"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:25", "text": ">> apparently. I don't I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "really know, but there was no there"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "there apparently is some footage, but it"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "wasn't a televised match or anything"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "like that, so you can only get what"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "people had in the crowd and stuff like"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "that. But it's just absolutely gruesome."}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "Super horrifying."}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:37", "text": ">> I have so many questions."}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:41", "text": ">> Like why did they keep playing soccer"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "after the ref stabbed someone to death?"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:44", "text": ">> I I don't think they like obviously"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "didn't know he'd die. They just thought"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "he like I mean there was he the guy"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "punched. I mean it's Brazil. I have no"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "idea how things fly over there,"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:54", "text": ">> but it's just nuts. Absolutely crazy."}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:54", "text": ">> Like the referee is a murderer."}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:56", "text": ">> Keep playing."}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:58", "text": ">> Well, they didn't know he's a murderer"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "while they kept playing. They just know"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "he defended himself after getting"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "struck."}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:06", "text": ">> Also, playing soccer, a referee with a"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "knife in your pocket."}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:10", "text": ">> That might describe what happens in"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "Brazil though, these soccer games. If a"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "referee has a knife in his pocket."}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:13", "text": ">> Yeah, that's true. You mean"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:14", "text": ">> so that's probably why they kept on"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "playing. They're like, man, this"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "happens. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:19", "text": ">> it's a Tuesday. I don't want to be"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:22", "text": "disparaging, but yeah, like you hear"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "stories of just like the gang affiliated"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "teams, gangs owning teams. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:27", "text": "stuff like that."}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:28", "text": ">> And apparently there was rumors that"}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "this game wasn't like it was like kind"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "of an informal game. It wasn't like but"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "it was a legit game, but it wasn't like"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "maybe it wasn't counted towards anything"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "score like for their records and stuff,"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "but it's crazy."}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:40", "text": ">> A friendly."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:41", "text": ">> I mean, that's just nuts. A 20-year-old"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "kid."}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:46", "text": ">> That's crazy. That also is scary of like"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:48", "text": ">> the human like what humans can do."}, {"start": "01:23:46", "end": "01:23:49", "text": ">> Group think. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:51", "text": ">> Group think. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:53", "text": ">> They all like synced up. Hive mind."}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:56", "text": ">> Like one second we're watching a soccer"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "game. The next second we're putting"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "someone's head on a steak."}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:23:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:02", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:03", "text": ">> It's when dudes get they're like this"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "and they get all"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:06", "text": ">> the You didn't say that. The most"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "important part. It was all women that"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "did it."}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:12", "text": ">> Yep. Yep. All women."}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:13", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "Ah,"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:16", "text": ">> take that for how's that for a re"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "reverse sigh up?"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:19", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:21", "text": ">> terrible."}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": ">> It's so scary. I I read that story. I"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "was like, there's no way that's real."}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "And all the comments are like, no way"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "this is real. And it's like, yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "100% real. Happened."}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:29", "text": ">> Soccer fans are nuts. I was uh I was"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "watching a Barcelona game over the"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "weekend and our new keeper played for"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "the team we were playing and he was like"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "one of their academy kids like 15 years"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "old and then literally left to play for"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "Barcelona which it's like yeah it's"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "Barcelona like that's a huge step up in"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "your career but apparently that ticked"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "everyone off. So they literally the"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "whole game like whistling chanting rat"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "but apparently they might be banning"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "like a ton of the fans are like putting"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "the stadium on a ban cuz I guess they"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "were throwing dead rats at the keeper"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "during the game. I mean this is La Liga"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "like like the biggest Spanish league"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:04", "text": ">> just starting a new plague just because"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "your team isn't winning."}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": ">> But is it crazy? It's also kind of dope"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "that you can get these teams that like"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "aren't built on money that they're like"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "actually a community of people who have"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "been fans since it was a Sunday league"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "team and then climbed up their system."}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:19", "text": ">> Yeah, there's something cool about the"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "ride or die kind of thing, but I mean"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "there's one point I mean I've seen like"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "vloggers like they'll travel to like"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "England, they're like American"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "pranksters on like on the side of the"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "road. It's easy fun stuff. But then they"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "go to England and they wear like the"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "wrong jersey"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:33", "text": ">> outside the I'm like you think the"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "Raiders and the Eagles are violent. I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "like, they're just standing outside the"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:38", "text": "stadium and they're literally getting"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "threatened and bushed. I'm like, these"}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "guys are nuts."}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:41", "text": ">> Yeah. You ever seen Green Street"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "Hooligans?"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:44", "text": ">> Green Street Hooligans. Talk about"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "10,000. Do you love it?"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:46", "text": ">> I need to watch it."}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:47", "text": ">> You haven't watched it either, right?"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:49", "text": ">> No, not yet. But I"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:50", "text": ">> Elijah Wood in it. He's the best."}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:54", "text": ">> It is the best. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": ">> it's And it really defines the uh the"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "football fans of the UK"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:00", "text": ">> culture. Imagine though if like the"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "University of Alabama or like LSU, like"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "you think about like some of the worst"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "fans that they have, but imagine if"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "those people like would make it to the"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "Super Bowl cuz the team just remained"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "the team like the LSU Tigers. It'd be"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:16", "text": ">> it would ex"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "keep us from going crazy."}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:20", "text": ">> I think so."}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:21", "text": ">> I can't wait to see the enhanced games"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "this year."}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:24", "text": ">> Oh, I know."}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:27", "text": ">> You know about those? Oh, it's it's"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "awesome. the Olympics on steroids."}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:30", "text": ">> Literally,"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:32", "text": ">> they're allowed to have take any any"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "drug or any enhancement drug."}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:34", "text": ">> Oh, what?"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:36", "text": ">> At all. And they literally like there"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "offers like what is it? Uh $100,000 or a"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "million dollars to everyone who breaks"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "an Olympic world record."}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:42", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:44", "text": ">> So you have no joke. You have"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:45", "text": ">> Why are they allowing that for?"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:47", "text": ">> Why? Why not? This is America."}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:48", "text": ">> They're basically incentivizing people"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "to destroy their bodies."}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:53", "text": ">> I mean, so is McDonald's,"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "right? I mean, we everything that the"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "the America promotes is,"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:57", "text": ">> you know, the hot dog eating contest."}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:26:57", "text": ">> I understand."}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:26:59", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:01", "text": ">> I understand that this is fun. Like, it"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "sounds fun. Like, I actually probably"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "will watch"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:03", "text": ">> cuz people have always like wondered."}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:06", "text": ">> Like, what could the human body do?"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:09", "text": ">> I'm not I'm not advocating it."}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:10", "text": ">> Of course not."}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:11", "text": ">> But I will tune in."}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:12", "text": ">> I'll watch it."}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:14", "text": ">> Who's putting this on? ESPN?"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:16", "text": ">> No. There's like a I don't know who the"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "guy is that's in charge of it. I'll look"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "it up. But it's"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:20", "text": ">> ESPN Theo."}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "You know that's a real thing every once"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "in a while."}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:24", "text": ">> Like they do like weird sports."}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:26", "text": ">> That's fun."}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:28", "text": ">> Yeah, they actually made a legit thing"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "after the dodgeball movie."}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:33", "text": ">> Speaking of dodgeball,"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:33", "text": ">> do you guys want to hear about spooky"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "lake?"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:35", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:38", "text": ">> I love spooky lakes."}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:41", "text": ">> I just wanted to I love doing stories"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "and looking at stories of lakes and"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:44", "text": "bodies of water cuz they're always so"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "scary to me. Very mystical."}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:47", "text": ">> Water's scary."}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:48", "text": ">> Water is very scary."}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:49", "text": ">> I'm going to say it. Water's scary,"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "guys."}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:50", "text": ">> What's hidden in it?"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:56", "text": ">> Yeah. We'll never know."}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> Well, this story is about Lake Van or"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "Van. I don't know how you say it's in"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "Turkey."}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:00", "text": ">> Lake Vaugh."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:02", "text": ">> Van."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:03", "text": ">> Turkey is beautiful, by the way. I've"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "seen pictures."}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:06", "text": ">> Turkey is beautiful. Also has so much"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "mystery behind it."}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:10", "text": ">> That's where the gobec is."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Like, do you baste it? Do you deep"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "fry it?"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": ">> Smoke it."}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "Um but yeah, Lake Vaughn is located in"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "eastern Turkey and it is the largest"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "bear with me here. The largest endoric"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "lakes in the world which means closed"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "basin."}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:32", "text": ">> What's a closed basin?"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:34", "text": ">> Google it."}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:37", "text": ">> No bottom."}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": ">> No, it's just like"}, {"start": "01:28:37", "end": "01:28:40", "text": ">> I was trying"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:40", "text": ">> Josh is a no basin."}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:41", "text": ">> Hey"}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:44", "text": ">> closed basin."}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:47", "text": ">> It's very cute. Okay."}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "It's cute. It's a cute basin."}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "Um but this this lake is very it has a"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "very rich um saline and alkaline."}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "Alkaline. Alkaline."}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:56", "text": ">> Alkaline."}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:28:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:28:59", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "the water is just very"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:00", "text": ">> I see"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:01", "text": ">> dense with it."}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:03", "text": ">> Dense with it."}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:05", "text": ">> It doesn't go to any rivers or oceans or"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "anything. It's its own water."}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:06", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:07", "text": ">> That's a closed"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:11", "text": ">> largest in the world."}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:16", "text": ">> Wow. Um, and it is nicknamed the inland"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "sea. Inland sea because of its size and"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "wave action. This lake is so big it has"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "waves. Kind of like the Great Lakes, but"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:24", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:28", "text": ">> Um, but in 2017,"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "these divers discovered a 30,000y old"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "stone fortress in this lake."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:39", "text": ">> Wow. And they believe it's from this uh"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "civilization called the uh Urat golly."}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "I didn't I didn't look up how to"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "pronounce this one. Dang it. Uh help me"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "with this one. U R A R TU."}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:52", "text": ">> Ratu."}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:54", "text": ">> Aratu."}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:56", "text": ">> Ratu. That's good."}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "So the people think the scientists think"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "that it's involved with this Uratu"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "civilization which this um dates back to"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "the 9th and 6th century BC."}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:08", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> Um but what this uh Uratu civilization"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "was good at was building stuff."}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:19", "text": ">> Specifically megalithic structures. M"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:21", "text": ">> um so they like these stones they're cut"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "perfectly flat on all sides uniform"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "height and length fit together tightly"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "often without mortar and create smooth"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "straight I'm just reading what ChachiT"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "said I'm going to move on from that um"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "but yeah these these people they were"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "highly advanced um in the Iron Age"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "kingdom they often went and battled the"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "Assyrians like they were just this like"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "apparently really brilliant people but"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "they"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "No, like they don't know what this"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "fortress was used for. They don't know"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "how it got underwater. Like it's this"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "huge mystery. Um,"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:55", "text": ">> so it's super deep. Like they were in a"}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "valley at one point basically. Is that"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "what it's like?"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:59", "text": ">> It's on like a mountain top and this"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "there's this giant lake, but this this"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "fortress they said it's like 60 m or"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "something underwater."}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:07", "text": ">> Okay. So, not too much."}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:09", "text": ">> Not too deep. But like no one's ever"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "really dived in there because it's like"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "super uninhabitable."}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, but there's there's a weird"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "mystery around the Stonewall that they"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "just discovered in 2017. So, who knows"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "what else is down there."}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:23", "text": ">> But what else might be down there?"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:24", "text": ">> It's a monster."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:26", "text": ">> A sea monster."}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:29", "text": ">> Yeah, I thought so."}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:31", "text": ">> Called the Lake Vaughn monster."}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:34", "text": ">> And people have described it even back"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "to the ancient days, like recent"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "sightings up in like the 1990s. Like I"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:40", "text": "think they said that someone got video"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "footage of it. I couldn't find it. Um,"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "but they suspect this creature is 30 to"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "50 feet long and it is serpentine or"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "eelike."}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:52", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:54", "text": ">> Dark. Sometimes described as humped."}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:56", "text": ">> Sorry. Say that again."}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:58", "text": ">> Humpt."}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:31:59", "text": ">> Okay. I didn't know what you said the"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "first time."}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> What did you think I said? It doesn't"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "matter."}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:07", "text": ">> It doesn't matter. Um, but what's crazy"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "around this lake there's this uh"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "Armenian mythol myth"}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:15", "text": ">> help me help"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "son of a gun. Let's start over."}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": ">> So in Turkey"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:25", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:27", "text": ">> the mythology around the lake. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:29", "text": "there's this Armenian mythology around"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "this lake, but and just in this region"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "in general, and they call would call"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "them vishops,"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:40", "text": ">> and they're basically these serpent or"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "dragon-like beings that had like this"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "very spiritual aspect to them. Um,"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "uh, but there's these stones erected all"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "over Turkey, especially around lakes and"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "mountain tops that would that resemble"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "this Lake Vaughn beast. And um but these"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "these stones, they go back to like two"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "two to three,000 BC. So super ancient,"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "super old. Um"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "that's all I got. I totally lost my"}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "train of thought."}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:10", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:12", "text": ">> But yeah, there's just this there's this"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "this lake is freaky. It's creepy."}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:14", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:16", "text": ">> They're finding ancient ruins. There's"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:18", "text": "this sea monster in this lake"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "supposedly, but all these fishermen have"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "seen it. All these people have seen it."}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "And they're like, \"Oh, it's just it's"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "just a wave.\" Cuz the waves look very"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "serpent like"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:28", "text": ">> very humpy."}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:29", "text": ">> This"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "is a very humpy lake."}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:34", "text": ">> But there's a lot of fisherman that say"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "like this thing pops up right by their"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "boat and it's longer than the boat."}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:37", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:38", "text": ">> Creepy lake."}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:39", "text": ">> I have thought about"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:41", "text": ">> Look it up."}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:43", "text": ">> If it's me diving, I like put on my"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "diving suit and I have my thing on and"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "they're about to drop me in there and"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "I'm plopping and I'm looking down. Oh my"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:49", "text": "gosh. The willies."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:52", "text": ">> Scary."}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:54", "text": ">> Very scary. You're built different if"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "you're an exploratory diver."}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:58", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:01", "text": ">> What is that? It's like a castle on top"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "of that, but it's in uh Lake Vaughn."}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:03", "text": ">> That is insanely interesting."}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, they"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:05", "text": ">> That's a really interesting area."}, {"start": "01:34:05", "end": "01:34:06", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:05", "end": "01:34:09", "text": ">> It looks super weird."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": ">> It's super ancient and it's like"}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:12", "text": ">> I don't know, man. I get weird feelings"}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "even just looking at pictures of it."}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:15", "text": ">> I'll have to do a little more deep dive"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "on that thing."}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:17", "text": ">> Yeah. No pun intended."}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:18", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:20", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:21", "text": ">> really shallow. I don't think I don't"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "know how deep the lake actually is."}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:26", "text": ">> And it's on top of a mountain."}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:26", "text": ">> 60 60 m would be about the width of my"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "yard."}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:29", "text": ">> Formed by volcano."}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:31", "text": ">> Well, they say like people just don't"}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "dive in it because it's super"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:34", "text": ">> like inaccessible. Like you have to hike"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "a mountain."}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:39", "text": ">> Well, yeah. Well, Turkey especially,"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "they're very strict on on like"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "archaeological digs and stuff like that."}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:46", "text": ">> But even this lake, like diving in it"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "with all the alkaline alkaline dang it."}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "What is it?"}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:48", "text": ">> Alkaline."}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:49", "text": ">> Alkaline. I think they're"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "interchangeable. I think people say"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "both."}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": ">> It's like uh glacier and glacier."}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:57", "text": ">> Yeah, there's only one right way"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:58", "text": ">> or mature and mature."}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:00", "text": ">> Mature."}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": ">> Dude, I knew a redneck and that's the"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "only word he said. Fancy. Fancy and it"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "always got in my head."}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:07", "text": ">> What? Mature."}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:08", "text": ">> Mature. You remember that? That's a very"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "preacher from Kansas."}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:11", "text": ">> Mature is it?"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:13", "text": ">> Is that why? Well, that checks."}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:17", "text": ">> It's very mature."}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "They uh the uh the lake is also home to"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "the wellpreserved 10th century Armenian"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "church of the Holy Cross, famous for its"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "intricate carvings."}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:23", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:24", "text": ">> That looks cool, too."}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:26", "text": ">> In the water."}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": ">> Not in the water. Right. Like it's right"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "on the water, though. It's like"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:31", "text": ">> It's just like super."}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:33", "text": ">> Is it abandoned or they still practice?"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:34", "text": ">> I think I don't think I don't know if"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "they practice there or not, but it looks"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "like Well,"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:38", "text": ">> Turkey seems like the place to go."}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:41", "text": ">> Dude, I want to go to Turkey. What is it"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "like politically right now? Is it pretty"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "turbulent or is it good? They're fine."}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "They're fine. It's not bad over there. I"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "don't I really don't know."}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:49", "text": ">> Oh, okay."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:51", "text": ">> I think it's fine."}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:52", "text": ">> I want to do a whole East I think we"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "have to wait till the girls are in high"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "school, but a whole Eastern European"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "like like two months."}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:04", "text": ">> Arabian Nights."}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "Arabian."}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:06", "text": ">> Anyways, those are the stories I have."}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:07", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:08", "text": ">> It's pretty good, dude."}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:09", "text": ">> Very, very cool."}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:11", "text": ">> I like spooky like stories, dude."}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:13", "text": ">> Me, too, dude. I just I'm I'm missing"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "like vibes from like the like the the"}, {"start": "01:36:13", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "Mooney children"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:19", "text": ">> and also the uh what is the green"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "children that came out of like in Italy?"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:23", "text": "That one was good."}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:24", "text": ">> I I feel like and maybe people can speak"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "into this in the comments. I feel like"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "I've been in a little bit of a dry spell"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "with finding like really really good"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "stories."}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:30", "text": ">> I don't think so."}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:32", "text": ">> Well, that's the thing. We found so much"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "that are on the surface and so we just"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "got to start diving down deep like into"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "like like picking out a specific country"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "because every country has their own lore"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "and crazy stories and so it's almost"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "like we have to like"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:46", "text": ">> theme it out that way and just do deep"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "dives into that area."}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:49", "text": ">> We can also rely on the people that"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "listen to the show because a lot of them"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:54", "text": ">> So do you guys have a way you want"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "things submitted to you? Yeah, there"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:57", "text": "that would be a thing because we get a"}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "ton of people just send us stuff and"}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "it's hard to like it's different avenues"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "and content. So, I wonder if we could"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "have a form honor ninjas of"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "butterflies.com. Submit a story."}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:06", "text": ">> That's a good idea."}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:08", "text": ">> Name of the like your name,"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:10", "text": ">> like how long you've been listening and"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "then like what year did this happen,"}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "bulk of the story, and like links."}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:15", "text": ">> We'll figure it out."}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:16", "text": ">> We should have definitely have"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "parameters though because we're not"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "looking for like a thousand DMs of the"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "same unresarched reel. need it to be"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "like, why is this a compelling story?"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> Yeah, it may be like it needs to be at"}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "least like a third-hand account"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:32", "text": ">> of something that actually happened to"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "you or a family member. Um, and we're"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "accepting ghost stories."}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:35", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:37", "text": ">> Always."}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:38", "text": ">> We should do like some like submitted"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "ghost stories for the Halloween episode"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:41", "text": "this year."}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:43", "text": ">> Yeah. But not too scary because I'm"}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "sensitive. I will tell you my favorite"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "character in Sinners was Annie,"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:51", "text": ">> the wife, the smart witch wife. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:55", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:58", "text": ">> And but when she used the word hate to"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "describe what was chills from the top of"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "my head to my toes, I don't know why"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "that word resonates something."}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:06", "text": ">> What word?"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:06", "text": ">> She kept saying it's a hank."}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:09", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:11", "text": ">> And I'm like, what's a hank?"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:13", "text": ">> I will say the creepy Yeah. The"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "creepiest thing was how the vampires"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "needed to be invited in."}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:17", "text": ">> Oh, dude. I know."}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:19", "text": ">> They like weren't able to enter a"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "building unless they were invited in. It"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "was like and they did it like too real."}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "That's too scary."}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:25", "text": ">> Yeah. You've seen movies do it in a"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "weird way like call fair that fright"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "night movie. It was terrible. But the"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "way they just Yeah. The way they put"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "that in, man."}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:32", "text": ">> Like like cornbread."}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:34", "text": ">> Step aside."}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:36", "text": ">> Cornbread. How he comes up and he's"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "like, \"Hey everybody.\" And he's like,"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "\"Were you going to let me in?\" And"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "everybody's like, \"You've been standing"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "here all night. Why didn't you just come"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "in?\""}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:43", "text": ">> Yeah. They're like, \"Yeah, come.\" And"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "then she's And then she's like the lady,"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "she's like, \"Hold on."}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:47", "text": ">> Why do you need to be invited in?\""}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:50", "text": ">> Yeah. You've been in and out of here all"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "day. And it's like, oh man, she was on"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "it. Without Without her, everyone's"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "dead."}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:55", "text": ">> When when I saw this,"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:56", "text": ">> don't spoil it for everyone."}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:58", "text": ">> Okay. But you think you think that some"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "people got out when they left, right?"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "And then you see this big old vampire"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "party happening and I literally my gut"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "sank."}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:09", "text": ">> You guys got to stop talking about it."}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:12", "text": ">> Okay. Well, and that's the thing."}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "It why that movie was so good. I'm not"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "spoiling you, though. The movie was so"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "good because I mean, they shot it well."}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "The storytelling was so good."}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:20", "text": ">> It's a fun period piece. The music."}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:22", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:24", "text": ">> I saw that in theaters and I was like,"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "\"This is the best movie I've seen in a"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "long time.\""}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": ">> Better than Stranger Things."}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:32", "text": ">> Did it end bad?"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:34", "text": ">> Speaking of which, oh, what? It was bad."}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:36", "text": ">> I I'm angry, dude."}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:37", "text": ">> I mean, I actually watched the ending"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "like it was like on a TikTok and they"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "just put the ending. I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:43", "text": ">> well, I mean, the ending wouldn't make"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "sense to you if you had seen like the"}, {"start": "01:39:43", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "whole show. Like they did a lot of like"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "they closed it up well, but if you start"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "thinking you're like, \"Wait a minute,"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "but what about this and this?\" And"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "you're like,"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:54", "text": ">> \"Well, that wasn't written well.\""}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:55", "text": ">> I mean, if on surface level it's a good"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "ending. I'm glad that like cuz like"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "Sopranos, it's in the middle like the"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "way it ends. It's like you got to be"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "kidding me."}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:04", "text": ">> And then this one was like, \"Okay, they"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "wrapped it up nice, but you just there's"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "a lot of plot.\" The way that they ended"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "the series, like take the entire all the"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "questions they didn't answer, but the"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "way that they wrapped it up with that"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "scene in the basement hit nostalgia. It"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "started with nostalgia, it ended. That's"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "great."}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:23", "text": ">> But the entire like the show's bread and"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "butter was like, what's happening? And"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "kind of getting their fans like all"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "riled up to connect dots. And then it's"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "either the, you know, they there's like"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "this whole thing now where they're"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "saying there's another episode that's"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "gonna drop, but that's how bad the"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "ending was is that fans can't let it go."}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:42", "text": ">> So they're like, \"No, this doesn't make"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "sense. All of these hundred things.\""}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:46", "text": "They're like, \"There's no way it was"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "written so bad that these hundred things"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "don't add up.\""}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:52", "text": ">> So now they're finding numerology and"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "like someone looked at books on the"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "shelf and it says something in Morse"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "code how they're spread out. Like it's"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "all that sort of stuff. If there is an"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "episode fan behavior,"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:02", "text": ">> if there is an episode that drops"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "tomorrow, it's the greatest ending of a"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "show ever, but there's no way that that"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "happens."}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:09", "text": ">> It just blows my mind like to have"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "something like"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "you're everyone is waiting for this"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "season."}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> Everyone who's watched the shows cannot"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "wait. It's the final one and they spent"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "so much time"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:20", "text": ">> half a billion"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:22", "text": ">> on a character"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": ">> that you're like,"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": ">> why do I care about this character? So"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:28", "text": "like why? Like I don't what is"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "happening? So it was just weird."}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:32", "text": ">> Talk more about that character. What was"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "wrong?"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:35", "text": ">> The character was terrible."}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:36", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:37", "text": ">> What are you talking about? What are you"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "trying to get at?"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:42", "text": ">> Nothing. No. I'm just wondering why you"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "didn't like this character so much."}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:46", "text": ">> She was a female."}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:48", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Speaking of females, you guys,"}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "we got an extra episode right after this"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "on our Patreon."}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:53", "text": ">> We sure do, guys. We do that every"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "single week. You love watching the full"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "episodes. Guess what? We have an extra"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "episode every week. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Speaking of being sick of food, I know"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "you guys already talked about on the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "live last week, but golly Campbell's"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "chicken soup, dude."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> I know. He got fired."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Did he really?"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> Yeah. So, which confirms everything."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> So, this is 100% real."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> He's in it. He works in it. He's like"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "the He's in"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> I thought it was VP."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> It was VP of IT or something like that."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "He's not directly in charge of the food."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> I see."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:28", "text": ">> But he is up the ladder at the company"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "for sure and has been let go. So, for"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "those of you guys who didn't tune into"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "that and haven't seen that, Campbell's"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "uh one of their top execs got caught on"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "a hot mic"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> explaining just speaking down as if the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "soup is only for poor people. He makes"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "foods for poor people. I would never eat"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "this. Why would I eat bioengineered"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "meat?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> He's like, \"The chicken is 3D printed."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "3D print.\" Dude, are you kidding me?"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Which means that's what they do that 3D"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "printing with, I'm pretty sure, is"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "cricket meal. Dude, if that's happening"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "in Campbell, that means that's a lie."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "What's in what's on the label, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "That because it says chicken, I'm sure."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Is Bill Well, so they're always"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "clever because it can be like broth can"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "be one of the ingredients, which is like"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "how much chicken meal do you need to"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "actually put in the water for"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> if it says chicken,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like how"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "much if they just dusted chicken bone"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "meal into the thing, you're technically"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "have it's been a while since I've asked"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "a question. What is the essence of"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "chicken? Like how much chicken do you"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "need in the soup for it to count?"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> I know. We could be eating feathers."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> I'm gonna look it up."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> This is crazy. I mean, imagine what else"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "and other things are we eating?"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Is it true though? Or did he have beef"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "and he just wanted to slander?"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> No, it was mostly chicken."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> I saw this one couple talking about"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "McDonald's and they're doing the math."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "They said McDonald's serves 6.5"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "million burgers a day."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> What was that?"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "That was somebody's jaw-dropping from"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "his fact right there."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> 6.5 million burgers a day, which is"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "equivalent to, I think they said,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> was it 97,500"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "cows per month?"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> That doesn't seem right."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> It's impossible, dude. What are we"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "doing?"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> It's impossible."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> It's impossible."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> That's a lot of cows."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> It's a crazy amount of cows."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> It has to beef. What are they doing?"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Where are they getting our beef?"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> I'm big time triggered on processed"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "foods. I'm about to I'm about to I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "even know."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> Well, you know, they say"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> I'm this close to becoming vegan."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> I'm I'm this close."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> No, I can't"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> to going off grid."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> Well, you know that theory where they"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "say there's not enough grave sites for"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "all the people that are dying."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> I was just talking about that this week"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "about new new cemeteries and stuff."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Yeah, there's not enough grave sites for"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "all these people that are dying, but we"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "seem to have a lot of hamburgers in this"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> Shut up right now,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> dude. Don't even talk about that."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> Don't even say that. That would be an"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "insane."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> I don't think we have enough cows for"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "all these hamburgers."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> No, but we still got enough humans."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> That's just McDonald's."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Think of every other burger restaurant."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Sure. It's crazy. You think about"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "grocery stores that are actually using"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "real beef hopefully. But I mean, it is"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "nuts."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> And I know bio-engineered meat exists"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "now. It fully exists now."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Yeah, for sure."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> And it just depends like what else is it"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "being used in? That's the crazy thing."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "And if people knew they I mean, golly,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "dude, we just need a revolt."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> Speaking of hypothetically, I'm telling"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "you,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> if I find out that McDonald's hamburgers"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "are people,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "you I won't even know what to do. I"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "would knock that building down."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> I'd order number two super size."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> That's why I stick with the fish fillet,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "baby."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> Yeah, the number two Hannibal. I was I"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "think I've posed this question on the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "show before, but like you know how like"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "in cannibal movies they're all like"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "showcases like like kind of crazy."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Apparently there is like a a something"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "that's released when you eat people meat"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "that makes you like lose your mind. I"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "didn't know if it was the act of eating"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "a person breaking your mind or if there"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "was like"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> a physiological reaction. Apparently it"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "is. What about these ladies that eat"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "their placentas?"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> What's wrong with that?"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> Don't say that word."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> Do they become cannibalistic? Don't say"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "that word."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> They become a little nutty."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Possibly. I mean, it makes sense why the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "world's going crazy. United States of"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "America's going wild right now. What if"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "we're all just eating human meat at"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "McDonald's"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> or just all these ladies eating their"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "placentas?"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> Yeah, it's probably that."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Have you seen that movie uh Bones and"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "All?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> No, but you said it was good."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> It's on Netflix. I mean, it's not I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "wouldn't say it's good. It's definitely"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "like well acted because it's Timothy"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Shalamé and it's him and this girl that"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> are literally cannibals. And it's like"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "in a very not like, you know, barbaric"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "type of way where you just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "like in the jungle eating. It's like"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "just normal people. Then you find out"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "they like to eat humans and it's like"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "this is wild."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "[screaming]"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> Did I say [music] ninja? I meant"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "butterfly."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "empty your mind. You learn martial arts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Minnesota tax fraud. Crazy stuff's"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "happening there."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> So, there's $18 billion dollar that's"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "been put towards federal funds that"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "supported Minnesota run programs. 9"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "billion or more reportedly may have been"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "stolen. Wow,"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> that's a lot of money."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> People are saying that work nearby"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "saying, \"We don't see any kids ever"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "around here. We have no idea. We thought"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "they were closed.\" Nick Shirley is a"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "23-year-old YouTuber trying to like dig"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "deep like where's this money going? And"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "he shows up and there's absolutely no"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "evidence that any kids are there. the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "director of education or something."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "She's like, \"Well, that daycare center"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "closed over a week ago.\" But then the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "next day, they were interviewing the guy"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that owns the building and they had all"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "these kids going into the building. He's"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "like, \"We would never close. Our office"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "hours are on the window. It says 2:00 to"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "10:00 at night for a day.\" Kirstson, it"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "seems like such a front. The same guy"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "that was doing that interview, someone"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "stopped and said, \"Wait a minute, that's"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the mayor in Minnesota and he's dancing"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "and hanging out with the Somalian"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "community.\" One of the guys, but behind"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "him is the guy who was speaking for the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "daycare. That's a weird coincidence. And"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the state saying the money is missing."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "How does that happen? That's $9 billion."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Let's give them the benefit of the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "doubt. Lunchables and like goldfish and"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "stuff,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> groceries are expensive. They're pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "expensive"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "saw this video of those people that line"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "up in Time Square for the ball drop or"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:06", "text": ">> Crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> You saw the guy going through his"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "jacket. They're like, \"So, what do you"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "have to go like what happens if you"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "leave the line to go to the bathroom?\""}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "He says, \"YOU LOSE YOUR SPOT.\""}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> And then they're like, \"So, so what do"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "you do if you have to go to the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "bathroom?\" He's like, \"Oh, let me look."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Let me show you.\" He's like going"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "through all the holes in all of his"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "pockets. He has like four jackets on and"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "he pulls something out. He sees he says,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "\"You see these? These are pads.\" And one"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "of the top comments was like, \"You"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "brought a pea pad to a diaper fight,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "dude.\""}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Problem. Just everyone rocks a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "diaper."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> I learn that every year and it's still"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "like as an adult weird."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> What's one thing in your life that"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "you're willing to wait so long for and"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "you'd wear a diaper to go the bathroom"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "in? There's people who are going to have"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "some accidents."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Oh god, you're right. And you're just"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "sitting there smells like that all the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "time anyway because you know they're"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "taking those diapers off and they're"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "throwing them on the ground, bro."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> Maybe. But then you're also having to"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "walk back to your car and stuff and like"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> nasty."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> It's just to watch a ball drop."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> There's some people who soil themselves"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "into the new year to watch it."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> We should actually do that this year."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Let's just watch it on TV and ourselves"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "in our living room."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> I thought it was depression."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Nine."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Hey, speaking of floods, can I talk"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "about a movie real quick?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> dude. Best movie ever. Noah's Arc 1928."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Ever heard of it?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> No. Okay. All right. So, I I ran across"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "this story recently and it was"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "absolutely bonkers. So, 1928, it was"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "mostly it was like in the transition"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "between silent films and talkis, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "And uh there was this director Michael"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Curtis Curtis, I believe was the name."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "And he wanted to do this like epic"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "movie. Ten Commandments had just came"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "out and they were like, \"We're making"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "another biblical epic movie,\""}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> which is a great movie, by the way."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Very good. He's like, \"It's going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "huge.\" So, it was going to be about"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Noah's Ark and the flood and then also"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "have like some type of like World War I"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "romance like intertwined with the story"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "somehow. So, like it was like depicting"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Noah's arc throughout the whole thing."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> And uh the director wanted it to be"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "absolutely phenomenal. They had a $1"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "million budget in 1928, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "bonkers."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Crazy. And so, uh, he's meeting, uh,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "with his people and he's writing it all"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "out and he has this idea for like when"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "the flood happens, we want it to be"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "absolutely huge. And, uh, he talks with"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the cinematographer and he says, \"Here's"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "my plan. I want you, uh, to really"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "capture this and get the whole scope of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "it all, make sure it's to scale, make it"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "huge.\" And the cinematographer gets"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "immediately scared because of like"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "what's happening. And they're just"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "around the corner from shooting this"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "huge flood scene. And the c"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "cinematographer gets so scared he backs"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "out. Why? Because he literally found out"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that the director is going to take"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "thousands of extras that he's hired."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "He's going to put them in this huge set"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "where they have, you know, buildings and"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "they have the big boat and a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "stones and stuff. They're going to have"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "all these extras and they're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "release water into this place and uh"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "just film it, right? 600,000"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "gallons of water."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> Released onto these extras. They have"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "fire hoses also being sprayed for people"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "trying to escape. The catch is they"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "didn't tell the extras that this was"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "going to happen."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> So they wanted like real fear."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> They wanted real fear. This movie is a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "completely free and available on"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "YouTube. You can watch it and you could"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "see people scattering scared for their"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "life. They released long um uh Longhorn"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "cattle also within the crowd."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> Oh my gosh, dude."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> And so you just have I mean you can"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "watch it. I'll actually send you guys a"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "clip just to see like just like the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "chaos of it. Um"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> but I don't want to jump to the end, but"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "like how many people died?"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> That's the problem."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Three people died on that set that day."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "One person was hurt so bad they had to"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "have their leg amputated. Countless"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "other people were hurt and uh it it"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "caused this was the movie that literally"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "started um uh stunt safety regulations"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "in Hollywood. It became uh it w it would"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "have became a huge ordeal, but back then"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "they were so good at hiding things and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "you know covering up stories that the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "only thing that ever got pressed was the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "lead lady um Dolores. Oh jeez. What was"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "her name?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> No, it was very it was very old"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Hollywood name."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Old Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> Dolores Fairbrite."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> Dolores Costello. Costello."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> Who also is Drew Barry Moore's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "grandmother,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> but she was the lead in it and she got"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "bruised up real bad real bad in the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "movie and like complained about it. But"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "she talks about in interviews. It was"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "like mud, flood, and blood. That's what"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "she said. Like just three words to"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "describe that whole thing. The director"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "did not get charged with anything."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Nothing bad happened to him. And it went"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "on to gross $2.3 million. So, they made"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "their money back twice. And um fun fact,"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "one of the extras was a 20-year-old man"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "who survived, thank goodness, and his"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "name was John Wayne."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Hey."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": ">> To become one of the greatest cowboy"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "stars of all time."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> It's a crazy story."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> I mean, it's but it's a it's free on"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "YouTube. You can watch the movie and"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "it's so scary. Like, watch. I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "fascinated with like those movies that"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "everything goes wrong."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> Like there's like one movie they did"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "back in like the 40s that like killed"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "like 56 horses. It's like how did this"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "happen?"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> Or all the movies the Disney pet scenes"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "like like dogs will like save someone"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "from a bear. That was just them sicking"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "dogs on a bear and like"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> dude guy on a buffalo."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> I just I just watched that clip. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "insane."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> That's so scary to when they made it"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> watching the clip they're freaking out."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Yeah. They didn't know that was going to"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> That's terrible."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> They want He wanted real fear."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> What did they die of drowning or did"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "they get trampled?"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> I I I mean I I don't know the exact"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "causes, but I imagine drowning, getting"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "knocked around,"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> knocked out and drowned for sure."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> But I mean, dude, freaking Longhorn"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "cattle are swimming around with them,"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> getting around, bro."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> It's nuts."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> That's That's insane."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> It's like That reminds me of the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Hitchcock thing. Uh Birds or whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the film's called. The girl had a phobia"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of birds and he assur assured her we're"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "using fake ones and then"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> no way."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> He just wanted that real fear."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> He wanted real fear. So after saying I"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "do have a phobia of birds, he's like I"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "promise they're fakes, so we'll just add"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "stuff later."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> Going to release 10,000 birds on your"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "head. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> I uh um was it McCauley Kulkin uh that"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "did the what's the movie where he dies"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "cuz he and he doesn't have his glasses."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "He got stung by a bee when he was a kid."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Do you remember?"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> I've seen it."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> Oh, you don't remember that?"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> No idea. No. like the Golly, it's going"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "to now everyone's"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> Oh, I think I know what you're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> Yeah, she's like that's"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> a distant memory."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> Yeah, he dies at the end and she's like"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "he needs his glasses. His glasses. He"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "can't see without his glasses. She's"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "like looking at him in a dead body. But"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "McCauley Kulkin is he gets stung by a"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "bee and he gets allergic and that's how"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "he dies in the movie. But they"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "legitimately there's a scene where he's"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "like surrounded by bees. I'm like how"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "did they do that? like back then they"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "got like um like the smell of the queen"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "bee on his hands and so the and they"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "released thousands of bees and they were"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "just circling him and they weren't"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "hurting him because they were trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "like protect the queen or whatever but"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "I'm like that's so risky. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> That's crazy. I just found out Moli"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Kulkin legally changed his name"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> two"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> his middle name is Moli Kulkin."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> No yeah"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> so his name is Moli Moli Kulkin Kulkin."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "That is so funny."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> I want to I want to change my middle"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "name so bad to something funny."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Did I say ninja? [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> I meant butterfly."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "empty your mind. You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> [music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "whoa, whoa."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Whoa, whoa, whoa."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Hey everyone,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "we live."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "I'mma check my camera angle out real"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "quick."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Boom, boom, boom, boom."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> What up, dude? Is my mic way louder than"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "yours? Sounds like in my own ears."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Way louder?"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Um, I don't think so."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Let me just get"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Andy. What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "I don't know."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Andy."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "I don't know what you're trying to I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "just I'm trying to get my bear I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "trying to get my bearings."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> All right. Um"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> we're waking up."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> All right. What's up everyone?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Welcome to Ninjas Butterflies live and"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "in person."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> Dude, that was a that was a dope accent"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "that came through earlier."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> Yes. So, we just had some fan. Was it"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Jody? I feel so bad. I do not remember"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "these people. Where is it? Oh, I already"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "brought it to my car. It was so good."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "They make a jerk. Uh, Jamaican jerk."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> Yeah, but they they came in"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> and uh we were told, \"Hey, you guys got"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "some some people here from England that"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "want to meet you guys.\" We're like,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "\"England? That's wild.\""}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "They came in and proceeded with the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "thickest Jamaican accents ever. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "like, \"Where are you from? and they're"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "like Jamaica. But they moved to England."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "What? Some of them moved to England."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Some of them moved here to Florida. So"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "that's why they came here. But it was"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "really cool. You It's That was just That"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "was quite the uh the accent."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> This is where I'm supposed to like"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "interject the accent so to let you play"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "off of it."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's hear your Jamaican accent."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Oh, dude. I CAN'T EVEN GET GOING. YEAH."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> OH, they uh it's it's funny. You know,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "we had the comments when we were using"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "expletives unintentionally."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> Boom. And then another thing."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> Boom."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> Boom. Or whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> there he is."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> You're fired."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> There he is."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> What do we have here?"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Right on time, dude."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> You're late."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> I'm right on time, dude."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Can we see it?"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> Maybe. I mean, I can take off my hoodie."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> What does the crowd want?"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Andy just got a tattoo from"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> I feel like I'm bleeding through my"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "hoodie right now."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Did it hurt?"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> It hurt. I only got my numbing cream on"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "for 30 minutes."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> I know. It was It was a bummer. Why did"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "you just do 30 minutes?"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> I I just was in a rush and forgot where"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "my numbing cream was and backpack."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> Oh man."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Yeah, it was good. Got to feel it."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> How how"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "better than you?"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> I doubt it."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> Look at that, baby."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> That's dope."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> So fun. That's freaking sick, dude."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> Corey Romiser,"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "tattoo artist. And he just did he did my"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "my my thigh. My thigh. He did it"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "yesterday."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Little higher. Little higher. Yep."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> Higher. More thigh. More thigh."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Not the leg. The shorts."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. I was on Andy. I'm not even"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "joking. Now"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> you got to do it."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Did that."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> There it is."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> It's Jordan in the big fish."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "I shaved my legs like a nice young lady."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Nice. Like a nice young lady."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Like a nice young lady."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> Dude, every now and then Andy busts out"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "a shirt and reminds us all that we will"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "never be on his trap level."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> I know. He's got them Northmen traps,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> dude. Like"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> I look so insane on camera. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "just the camera, dude. I think the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "camera is 10 10 mus."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Dang. All right. Wait. My fault."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> I wasn't looking at the camera. I was"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "just looking at you."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "so what's up, Andy?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> Oh, nothing, man. You want me to turn on"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "the chat on the computer?"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Yeah, that'd be super. I'm trying to do"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "it on this and it's"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> Yeah. And I'm turned around looking at"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "you from over here. I told the chat"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "before we started I was going to try to"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "read but like realistic"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "even reading something get my eyes to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "focus and going back and forth is not"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "possible. I want to I love you but"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> we'll figure out the best system."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> We're on our way."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> No one can hear that. Just us bobbing"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "our heads."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Hey chat, where are you guys where"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "are you guys from?"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "while we wait for Andy to"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "get the chat up on the uh"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the big screen."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Everyone watching, put where you're from"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Philippines."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "I wonder if that goes through. Can you"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "guys hear that clapping?"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Did you hear the applause?"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Belgium."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "They did hear the applause. Very cool."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> Our soundboard works for this."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> Very cool. Do the three dots. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "then Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> dude. Someone from Guam."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "I heard the hog hunting over there is"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "super fun."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> Zoom out and then when you zoom in, do"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "it in the bottom corner, bottom left"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "corner."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "I feel like I should uh turn a camera"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "just to let people know what's going on"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "in the room."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Guys, we're going to get to it. We're"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "going to get to it. We're figuring it"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "out. We got a lot We got a lot to talk"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Give it give us a teaser, Josh. Give us"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "a little"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Well, there's a lot happening in the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "world right now."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> I wouldn't know because uh my phone"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "won't even let me connect to anything."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> it's it's that is something in and of"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "itself, I feel like."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, I I did a little diving"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "out of frustration."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> Lefthand corner, Andy, with your cursor."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Yeah. Okay, there you go. Nice."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> you have to flex the entire time we're"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "doing this."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> Not for them, for me."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> Uh, Arctic Dice says they have one"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Get it in."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Drop it."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "yeah. So, there's a lot happening right"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "now. One, Verizon cover Verizon phones"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "are not working right now."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> Verizon isn't why. Get your mic, son."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> Why? Why is Verizon not working?"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> There's just a like a nationwide outage."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> That's normal for the sometimes, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> I don't know. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> So, I did I did a little digging and"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Verizon's been on it for like hours."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Hundreds of thousands of people. And"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "here's the weird thing. If it was just a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "bug happening with Verizon, I would"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "think it would be like a general network"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "issue. And I don't I don't understand"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "how cellular networks really work, but"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "they're saying it's big cities primarily"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "that are taking the hit plus a few"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "elsewhere. So like I don't have service"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "right now. Like I can't I can't call"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Paige. I had to tell her like call"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Sunday cool if you need me."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Really? How long has this been going on?"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> I don't I have no I mean for a good"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Well, that's when I noticed it. I've"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "been locked in editing and then I looked"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "down. I had I got a For the chat that"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "doesn't know, I got a pregnant wife at"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "home and I realized my phone has been"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "completely offline. I like panicked. But"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "uh yeah, so I can't even get like into"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "my Verizon account to turn other stuff"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "on to get around the the signal being"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "down. But uh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> that's weird, dude. I always get like"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "that's where my mind goes all the time"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "whenever there's big outages like this."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Usually it's over no problem. But this"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "seems like over an hour. That's you're"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "talking about millions upon millions of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> Yeah, there's some people saying that"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "they their Verizon's working, but"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "there's I mean there's a big uh outage"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "for a lot of people in for Verizon. Did"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "uh did you guys see what happened in New"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "York in it was I think September or"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "November of tw September 2025 the uh the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "SIM card thing that happened?"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> I just Okay, so I just found out about"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "it while I was looking into this. I was"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "looking when have cellular cyber attacks"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "happened on US oil, dude. Literally"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "hundreds,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "let me get the number right. 100,000 SIM"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "cards. Yes, that's chat GPT on my"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "screen. I was using it for research."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "There are links, but 100,000 SIM cards"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "were found in New York and they were it"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "was a cyber attack that was being"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "planned."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> They were going to shut down the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "network. First responders wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "been able to like talk."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> Oh snap, dude. That would be insane."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> But but literally they caught it because"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "there was some like uh government thing"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "that was going to happen. They were"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "doing their protocols like checking the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "safety of everything and they just by"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "chance stumbled upon it. Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "apparently no one has been arrested. No"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "one has been blamed. Nothing's come"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "forward as far as like was that foreign?"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Was that some sort of weird thing"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "happened like domestically? No one"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "knows, dude. We had 100,000 SIM cards."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "They were trying to shut down New York's"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "cellular grid officially and we just"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "don't know."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> That's scary."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> That'd be bad news bears."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> Speaking of bad news bears,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> I ran and I ran"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "I ran so far away."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Couldn't get away from the bombs."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> And the protesters."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> Oo. Protesting."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Yeah. It's all of Iran right now is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> for what? What are they protesting?"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> The the regime in Iran. The people."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "They're rising up and they're like, \"We"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "got to get this dictatorship out of"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "here.\""}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Okay. Who's their dictator?"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> Uh I don't know his name. No. Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> And if I said it, I would probably"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "offend a lot of people."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> That's fine."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> they wouldn't hear about it."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> Yeah. But it's crazy what's happening"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "right now. They speculate, which is hard"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "to exactly know like the exact number."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "They speculate over 12,000 protesters"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "have been shot and killed."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> Good lord."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> They've arrested 18,000 protesters. So"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "they say and they are moving towards"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "rapid execution."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> Just anyone that's anti"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Anyone that's protesting"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "protesting that's just"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> kids like kids."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> What are we doing? And Trump is just"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "like he said he's like if anyone gets"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "executed he's like it will be bad news."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> Oh are we going to are is this World War"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "II?"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> Well here's the thing."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": ">> Is this what's happening?"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> Last last night the Papa John's the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "pizza meter."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> Last nighting."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> Um let's see. It was up"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> Yeah. The Domino's pizza up a thousand"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "or a,000% spike in orders. Uh, Extreme"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Pizza 213% spike. The Zado Pizza 217%"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "spike. Papa John's 192% spike last"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "night. And then there's also this"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "tracker that someone has like tracking"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "the bars in DC of attendance at these"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "bars"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> or occupation or whatever. And they were"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "all down these past couple days. And"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "they speculate that's like when"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "government workers are working overtime."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> Oh. Not going. Yeah. Not going to the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "third place. Going Not going to the"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "barn. Having a drink."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> Pizza and beer. Man,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> did you Did you see uh Trump's tweet"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "where he told him to continue"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "protesting?"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> I'm sure he did. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> He said to continue doing it and he"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "said, \"Take names.\" He said, \"We're"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "coming,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> dude.\""}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, another thing, too."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Are we getting drafted right now?"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> I hope not, dude."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> My knee hurts."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> Ow. Ow."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> Um, but yeah. So, Israel is also today"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "stationing uh Iron Dome batteries in"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "central Israel. These giant batteries"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "for their missile silos or their little"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "runs off batteries"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> apparently. That's just what I read."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> But they're stationing all these the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Iron Dome batteries they said in central"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Israel today."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> That's not like a Are we sure that means"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "like power battery? Is that not like a"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "like a battery like that? You I"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> It just said Iron Dome batteries."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": ">> I got Duracells. Yeah, you got to put in"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "some double A's to keep that big iron"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "dome."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> Freak, we have triples."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> That would be insane. That actually"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "would be like a good time to attack,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> If you're the if you're nemesis like"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Yeah. when they're when they're doing"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "maintenance on it."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> I mean, I don't want to be a strategic"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "for the nemesis, but it's just out"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:58", "text": ">> Hey."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> Hey."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> But yeah, it's getting crazy over there."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": ">> that is nuts. And so we have this stuff"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "with Venezuela. We have the stuff with"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Iran,"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> the stuff with Greenland."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": ">> Greenland."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> NATO's like stop."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> Chill out."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> Like, bake me."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> He's like is reaching his hand across"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the table. No."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> Come on."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> I'm going to do it."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> I'm not touching you. I'm not touching"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we'll see."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> Golly, man. I mean, what happens if we"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "go to I mean, I guess we've been at war"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "for a while in tiny places, but like"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": ">> Yeah. People are saying like, \"Oh, we're"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "about to go to World War II.\" But man,"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "we've been in World War II."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> That's my thing."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> Escalation conflict."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": ">> 50 years from now, like obviously we've"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "talked about this before, how like World"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "War II, there wasn't like, oh, well,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "this was the beginning of World War II."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "It was until years later we're like,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "\"Okay, that's what started it. That's"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "that was the progression.\" And so I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "wondering like, what are we going to"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "look back on? Because there will be a"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "World War III. That's just a given."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. You know,"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": ">> I mean, I just hope I I'm alive enough"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "to see, you know, World War."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> I like the round number, but"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": ">> hey, shout out to Liverpool."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> That sounded very Scottish. Liverpool."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "What? How do they kind of coke?"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": ">> I don't know. Liverpool."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": ">> Liverpool. That's very That's very"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "Yes. Liverpool."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "And uh if you could imagine"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "um Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": ">> that's wild, man."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": ">> Iran, that whole thing is crazy."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": ">> We should go help. What can we do to"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "help?"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> All right. Yeah. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": ">> Let's make a plan. Let's buy a ticket"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "and let's just figure it out."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": ">> You should see the videos of the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "protest, though. It's very"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> Where are you?"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> Just everywhere. Tik Tok and"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> I follow those like um"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": ">> I bet Reddit has some crazy ones."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": ">> Uh shout out to your sister Alyssa."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": ">> Alyssaoop,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "you have good taste."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": ">> it's amazing Josh hasn't had to go pee"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "yet."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:00", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": ">> that's very true."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": ">> We just started. Yeah, don't speak"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "before. Give me like five minutes."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": ">> Yeah, come on."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "he says, \"As a Dutch guy, y'all can have"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Greenland.\""}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:10", "text": ">> Hey, thank you."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:11", "text": ">> Thanks."}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": ">> We'll take your word for it."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": ">> We appreciate it. You heard it first."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> It's a gift. We own it."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> No techs,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> which is Ninjas and butterflies owns it."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> Do it again."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> No techs."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "yep."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "So, I um sorry, I lost my train of"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "thought. So, what I was talking about"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "yesterday, we filmed a podcast with"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "Corey yesterday that's coming out next"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "week."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": ">> In our Patreon, I talked about"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": ">> the Nike stock thing."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's th those who don't know, and"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "I got some clarification on it."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> Okay. Those who don't know, um, Maduro,"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "before Maduro was arrested, there's"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "these billionaires that all bought stock"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "in Nike,"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> including Tim Cook,"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> the CEO of Apple, bought $3 million"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "worth of stock in Nike days before he"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "was arrested,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:12", "text": ">> which who doesn't do that? And the one"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "picture President Trump posts of weuro"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "wearing a a nice Nike comfy Nike that"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "you can only get at nikeshop.com."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "That's what he said. Did he said the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Nike shop? No, I was going to say I was"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "like being serious for a second. I was"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "like, wait, nuh-uh."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> I wouldn't put past him though."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": ">> When that picture came out with Maduro"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "in the Nike tracksuit. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": ">> Nike stock went"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "shot up."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> How does that happen? Explain that whole"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "process to me. Why does just a picture"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "of a"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> I mean because it kind of went hard,"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "right? I mean it kind of it's like it"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "looked like an album cover."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> That picture was posted all over the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> And people were like that's kind of a"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "dope track suit."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> Do I want to dress like a dictator right"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "now?"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": ">> Hey man, he might be handcuffed, but he"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "looks fly."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": ">> Hey, that dictator's got drip. He looks"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "flying. It's not even because he's on a"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "plane right now, blindfolded and"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "handcuffed."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": ">> That actually would be cool if they said"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "like a, \"Hey, buy this jumpsuit, you get"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "a free pair of handcuffs.\""}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, so yeah, it just sounds like a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "weird insider trading kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And it doesn't like"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> But also elaborate."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": ">> They did change his outfit in one day"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "and four nights."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> I mean, four times in one night."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Which I think is funny if this is"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "the precedent we're setting like every"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "time we bring someone captive like uh"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Luigi Manion like we should have had him"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "just like hey he's wearing Prada look at"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "that like that's like the new bids like"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "hey please when you arrest the next big"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "person can you make sure he's wearing"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Crocs like just like they're going to be"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "having all these bids like that's a good"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "it's good advertising."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> It's like sponsorships right like you"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "can buy a sponsor for the next dictator"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "arrested."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> Dude that would be great. That'd be a"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "good idea for a sketch."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> that's crazy, man."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": ">> So, yeah, it was confirmed that Tim Cook"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "and all these guys bought the stock in"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "Nike before that picture came out, days"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> So, they knew. But how would they know?"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Like, maybe it's just like a hint like"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "cuz I mean they said uh the people who"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "ran the mission, they're like, \"Did you"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "get approval from this person, this"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "person?\" Marco Marco Rubio was like in a"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "situation like this, there's no time to"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "ask for permission. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> It was a secret operative mission. Like,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "we had to go and go. So, I wonder if it"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "was just like, \"Hey, trust me."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": ">> Might want to buy a pretty petty into"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Nike.\""}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": ">> I mean, how can that be proven, though?"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Like, how does that can like"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": ">> I can't"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": ">> I guess that's I mean, Walls Tim Cook,"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "why do you just Why do you want to get"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "richer and richer?"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": ">> What do you"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "never"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> I mean, I get it. I make three million a"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "year, but still it's like"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> I do want some more."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:56", "text": ">> quadruple it, please."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": ">> definitely."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": ">> Look at I'm a $3 million man."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> So, um, yeah, we got the stuff with"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "Iran,"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Greenland. What's next?"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": ">> It's wild, dude. It's going on. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "should we talk about when we talked"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "about obviously on next week's episode,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "but can we go into Maduro's arrest a"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "little bit like how that that guy's um"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "eyewitness testimony?"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't want to give too much"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, some people already people"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "already know about it, but it's wild."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "So, we don't need to explain it."}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> But if you go research it or just wait"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "for the pod to come out, but golly."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Next week's pod, we talk about how"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "there's a firsthand account from a guard"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "in Venezuela that was a guard from"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "Maduro's um compound or whatever. Talked"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "about how the military dudes used like"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "this sonic weapon."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": ">> Sonic weapon. It sounds like they're"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "describing super soldiers. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "you saw that on paper and you put 1960s"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "on it, that's an alien attack."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> It seems like an alien attack, dude."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> I mean, so like"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": ">> I mean, that's scary. I mean, and we"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "have we see videos of um ICE agents all"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "over the country slipping on ice and"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "like um arguing with people and going"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "back and forth acting like Kairens, but"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "then yet"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": ">> we see this secret oper op like"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "operation happening and these guys are"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "pros."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, do you see that uh there"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "was a stat um Andrew that um Will's"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "speech in season five was longer than"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "actual Maduro's"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "like like a arrest and everything?"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:26", "text": ">> I said that on the podcast with Lily."}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "Yeah. Or Lily said it. It's just like"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "the same. It's like seconds apart."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Did she say that?"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": ">> I for did I miss that?"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": ">> Yeah. I We filmed a lot of stuff. So,"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": ">> we're like a couple episodes not a not a"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "couple ahead, but we're a little bit"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "more ahead than we are. And Josh and I,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "even when we were talking like ad spots"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "and trying to get like the structure"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "down, we had one of those moments where"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "like where do we exist in the portal?"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "Like the time"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": ">> we are in the upside down."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": ">> I mean, we basically are."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": ">> Golly, that's crazy. That's so funny"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "though, man. I mean, just like I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "telling you, they literally were and"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "they're scary. I mean, go America,"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": ">> but golly, dude, being on the other side"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "of that must be terrifying. The way he"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "describes that."}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> Scary. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": ">> I can't imagine."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": ">> Cory made a good point, though. He says"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "it sounds a lot like some of their"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "weaponry and the way they moved and"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "stuff sounds like the um Peruvian face"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "peelers Tim talked about."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": ">> Yeah, I mean that's totally possible"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "with all that stuff. Like who knows,"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "dude. I mean like if they want to get"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "something done they truly there's no"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "stopping them."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": ">> And who knows what kind of tech I mean"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "we don't even understand a drop of the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "type of tech and type of military"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "equipment they have available to them"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "now"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": ">> to get stuff done what they want. Like"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "we think we know. We really don't."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": ">> And you would think like for like one of"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "the biggest operations that you know is"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "going to have like they can't go wrong."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": ">> They're going to pull out all the the"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": ">> Yeah. the goodies."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": ">> Yes. Like the cream of the crop. Like"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "let's get our best soldiers, our best"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "equipment. We're going to be in and out."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "I mean, I've literally w waited in"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "McDonald's drivethrus longer than they"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "were in Venezuela. I mean, it's crazy,"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": ">> It's wild."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": ">> thank you. Flavors are flavors of the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "forest garlic."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> That is flavors."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": ">> Some solid garlic. Uh, was that him?"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> That's him. Freeze dried garlic. I got I"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "got some of his stuff."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": ">> I use this stuff."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> Chili"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": ">> is very good,"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": ">> dude. You know what I You know what I"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "was thinking about though is with they"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "have all of this new military tech,"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "right? Like so they're allegedly"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "invading countries with weapons that"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "have never been seen before, at least"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "publicly. like, but you know, we talk"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "about SC"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "amendment and the weapons that they want"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "to use against us. Like,"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> it's like, what am I going to do? Bring"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "a shotgun to a laser beam fight? You"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "know what I mean? It's like the Second"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "Amendment argument is like"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": ">> or it's not doing anything anymore."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": ">> It sounds like they just use a sonic"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "weapon."}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> Yeah. that makes us drop our guns and"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "starts our teeth start falling out, our"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "nose starts bleeding. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": ">> And you know, like that's just"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": ">> imagine like fart. They have like a a"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "weapon that like is like the Ark of the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Covenant in Indiana Jones."}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": ">> I mean, really faces just melt off."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": ">> We're finally doing America's rising up"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "against the government and it's just we"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "all just melt. That's most likely what"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "would happen."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> Yeah. They're going to be like, \"Guys,"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "you're right. Second Amendment. You can"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "have suppressors on your guns. You can"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "have whatever the heck you want.\" And"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "then literally like stormtroopers are"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "going to be walking down like through DC"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "or something crazy."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": ">> Yeah, we have this ray gun that turns"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "you to dust."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:39", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": ">> Yeah, you know what? I'll pay a little"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "more. I'll pay more in taxes actually."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:42", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:44", "text": ">> I'm fine with that."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:44", "text": ">> Speaking of taxes,"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> don't get me started."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": ">> Do you know we have a this uh young guy"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "running for governor in Florida?"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": ">> I saw he was on interview with Tucker."}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "Was that it?"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": ">> Yeah. His name is James Fishbach."}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:57", "text": ">> I didn't listen to anything, but I was"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "looking through the comments and people"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "are like, \"Now this is a guy I would"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "vote for.\" Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "yes or no. I'm just saying he has some"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "cool things and some things I'm just"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "like, \"All right.\""}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": ">> as Florida natives,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> he's 31, too."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> He's got a really?"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": ">> What? I'm I'm probably older than him."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:17", "text": ">> You are, right?"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": ">> I mean, I'm turning 32 next month, so I"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "probably am older than him. Golly,"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "that's crazy. 31 as a governor,"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": ">> and we're just doing a podcast. Well,"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "the thing is it's just like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "like, you know, we have like uh when you"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "have a daughter and you have to have"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "like the son, the guy, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "date my daughter, you got to ask me"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "first. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": ">> If we're as Florida natives, he's got to"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "come on the pot. We got to approve him"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "first. That's"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": ">> some pretty radical ideas."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": ">> Some of them are really cool. One of"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "them was just he said he talks like"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "this, by the way."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": ">> Very soft spoken guy."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> Very um Yes. Um, but he said that if he"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "So Tucker asked about like why all the"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "orange grows are going away in Florida."}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": ">> And I forget what he called it is like"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "the um the greening effect or something"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "like all these pesticides that got from"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "China or wherever that got introduced"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "into Florida um just caused all these"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "diseases in the the Florida orange"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "groves."}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> Mhm. And he said, \"If I become governor,"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "I will pay anyone in the entire world"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "that comes up with a formula that can"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "have a orange plant that withstands"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "these different diseases. I will pay"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "them $1 billion.\" HIGPT, could you make"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "me a formula real quick? That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": ">> 1 billion."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": ">> 1 billion. Man,"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": ">> it's kind of crazy how quickly we switch"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "from like get out of our food to like"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "GMOs."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, that's that's literally"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": ">> Yeah. He's just what his whole proponent"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "like he's trying to bring Florida back"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "to what Florida is."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:50", "text": ">> And I do appreciate that."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> Like stopping all this development stuff"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": ">> Sure. I mean, anyone that does that, I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "for, but also that like anything that"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "that's a plus like that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "there's going to be some negatives."}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, he also said he would come out"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "with a tax"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "called the sin tax."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:08", "text": ">> Sin?"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:09", "text": ">> S I N."}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:10", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> You going to have to be careful talking"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "about this one cuz we're going to get"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "flagged for some buzz words."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> Every time we sin, we get taxed."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": ">> I'm actually for that. Listen to Jesus,"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "y'all."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": ">> No, it's um a tax for people that make"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "inappropriate content."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": ">> They are taxed. If they live in Florida"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "and they are a producer of inappropriate"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "content, they will be taxed 50% in"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "Florida."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": ">> That's what he's proposing."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": ">> That's okay. I mean, that's a new"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": ">> that's one of his that's one of his"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "that's a new thing. I mean I mean you"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "obviously have to I don't know. I I mean"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "I"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": ">> obviously I'm not in support of any of"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "that type of content,"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:48", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": ">> So it's like maybe that's just like"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "saying don't do it here then."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:52", "text": ">> He's throwing out some really radical"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:54", "text": ">> Right out the gate."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> Well, I mean it's how you get that's how"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "you get on your I mean that we're"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "talking about them. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:27:59", "text": ">> That's how you get people talking about"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "you"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:02", "text": ">> and we're done."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": ">> Anyways, so"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> what's his name?"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": ">> James Fishback."}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": ">> James Fishback."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:17", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": ">> we got to bring Fish back, dude."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": ">> He would come on here."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": ">> Oh, we I mean I legitimately will try."}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "If you want to do it,"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:25", "text": ">> he'll come on."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:25", "text": ">> Definitely. I guarantee we could."}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:28", "text": ">> I mean, we're the biggest comedy podcast"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "in Florida. Guaranteed."}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": ">> Let's hope so."}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:31", "text": ">> We We definitely are."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:33", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": ">> we've got to be. We've got to be."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": ">> Yeah, we could get him on,"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> dude. I will email his team. I will call"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": ">> James Fishbach."}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "Um but the the criteria is we're not"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "going to talk about politics at all."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": ">> No, that's got to be the thing. He's got"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "to he's got to be cool. We just want to"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "have fun."}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": ">> We just want to get to know you. We just"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "want to know your craziest conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "Like what do you believe in?"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": ">> Well, I believe that the taxes are"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": ">> just the the way that China is JUST"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "INFILTRATED. NO. FAKE FACT. STOP."}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": ">> DON'T DON'T DO THAT. TELL ME. WOULD YOU"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "RATHER POOP your pants twice a day for"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "the rest of your life"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:14", "text": ">> or pre pee green soup for the rest of"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "your life?"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": ">> Yeah. Tell me now that he does have to"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "share his poop story."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": ">> Oh, 110%."}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:20", "text": ">> But we kind of stopped doing that with"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "guest."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "We have to get back to it. That's our"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "roots, man. We can't forget our roots."}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:27", "text": ">> What are we going to do whenever we"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "become super jacked, become"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "multi-millionaires, and still have this"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "podcast?"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": ">> And all the comments are like, \"You guys"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "have changed. You all don't even do poop"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "stores anymore.\""}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": ">> We got to stick to it."}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:38", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:40", "text": ">> It's true,"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": ">> dude. Give us a give us a gym update."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "How's that How's that going? I did like"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "three days of running in three days of"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "100 push-ups a day and quit."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": ">> It's going great, dude. But I did 10"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "miles of walking at Disney the other"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": ">> 10 10 miles,"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:57", "text": ">> bro."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> Yeah. I was like, \"This is dumb.\""}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:29:59", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": ">> It was crazy. I was tracking. I was just"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "like, cuz we got up at like 6 and then"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "we didn't leave until like 8 or 9. I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "like, \"This is insane.\""}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": ">> Dude, your ability to keep on going."}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "We'll go chat. We'll go to conferences"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "with this guy and like literally he"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "drives the trailer. He's like, \"No, I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "good. I'm going to do like a 36-hour"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "drive freaking straight up on one energy"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "drink get there and then we're like,"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "\"All right, let's go back to the"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "Airbnb.\" He's like, \"No, I think I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "going to go get food, go to conference"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "booth, and then he talks to people for"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "the whole time.\" And the conference"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "doesn't start for another 3 hours, but"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "he's hanging out with people."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:33", "text": ">> Gives me fuel."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:35", "text": ">> The battery is crazy."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:35", "text": ">> People are my fuel."}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:38", "text": ">> Consume."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": ">> I was uh Corey was making a joke about"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "he was like, \"As a tattoo artist, you"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "got to learn how your body twists.\" Quit"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "looking at my body. My eyes are up here."}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "Um, how like skin like naturally twists"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "in a certain direction depending on"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "where it is on the body. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": ">> And he's like explaining it to me and"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "it's like that is the only time a tattoo"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "artist and a serial killer are the only"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "people that ever that ever find that"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "information useful."}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": ">> That's so funny. Um,"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "they're saying Verizon's down for them"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "in"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:05", "text": ">> New North Carolina."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:07", "text": ">> North Carolina."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": ">> Tyro."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> North Carolina."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": ">> yeah. Shout out Aunt Adrian by the way"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "once again. She's always the best."}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": ">> Speaking of North Carolina, I pretty"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "much finished that which we don't have"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "to talk about too much. I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "talk about anymore."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:22", "text": ">> Oh, come on."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": ">> But I did pretty much finish that"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "episode um on American Alchemy with"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "Chris Bledsoe."}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": ">> Okay. Was it scary?"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:36", "text": ">> I just It's You listen to it and you're"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "like, \"Oh man.\" Because Yeah. I really"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "think he is experiencing stuff. Sure."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> I mean, yeah, like obviously, but that's"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "the thing. It's like someone who, you"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "know, opens a Ouija board and says, \"I"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "fully give you permission to do whatever"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "you want in my body and life and soul"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "and spirit, and I devote my life to"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "you.\" And it's like, well, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "something's going to happen."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": ">> Doesn't mean it's a good thing."}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:00", "text": ">> Hey, shout out to your husband, Michael"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Weissky."}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:07", "text": ">> Wisky. Michael Wisky."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:10", "text": ">> Michael Wisky. Yeah. But he was um"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "there's just as a follower of Christ, he"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "was saying some things that were just"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "like, \"Oh, no.\" Do you not want to like"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "go into it or"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:19", "text": ">> not fully,"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": ">> but I mean, he was saying like one of"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "the beings that he encountered like"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "pretty early on, and I think I've talked"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "about before, was like a a woman, this"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "like heavenly woman"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:36", "text": ">> that that's like so Luciferian."}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, he says uh I forget what he"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "calls her, but she basically said, \"I've"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "been throughout the ages. I've been"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "Isis. I've been Mother Mary. I've been"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "like she's been this womanly figure like"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "that.\" And he's like, \"And it's the it's"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "the Holy Spirit.\""}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": ">> Like, hold on."}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": ">> Hold on. Show me. I mean I mean I have a"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "Bible. Can you JUST SHOW ME PAUSE?"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "PAUSE. PAUSE."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "RED FLAG, RED FLAG. UM, but yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "scary. I mean, but the the how he's so"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "involved like NASA is like"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "they're always he's always talking to"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "NASA. He's always talking to"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "CIA, FBI, like I mean just all these the"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "Vatican"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "apparently they he said which I don't"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "know what to believe with him but"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "apparently they he was um invited to the"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "thing at the Vatican and he was like"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "highlighted as like"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "this special person"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:45", "text": ">> him and Jelly Roll."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, but yeah, you you'll have to"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "I'll have to show you some clips."}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": ">> I'll watch it. I mean, I I'm down to"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "watch it because I've never heard that"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "dude speak at all, but I remember you"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "just reading his starting to read his"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "book and how terrible things felt and"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "you had to quit."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I started reading like this"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "is very because he he starts it off with"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "like he's a Christian and he also said"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "he's like, you know, he's like I I grew"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "up in the Baptist church and he said,"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "\"My wife, she still goes to church every"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "Sunday.\""}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> He does not."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": ">> Well, yeah. And it's"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:15", "text": ">> well that's that's a that's not good at"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "all either."}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> I mean if you Yeah, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> But yeah, it's a it was interesting, but"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "it's just scary because it's like I"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "really think he is"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "experiencing something."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": ">> Oh yeah, I don't doubt that at all. But"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "it just it's obviously a very deceptive"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "type of spirit."}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": ">> Not a good one."}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> I'm just trying to understand how people"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "like that like get a following like"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "saying like, \"Yeah, I met the Holy"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "Spirit. she was. And then like right"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "there, anyone who's read the Bible, it's"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "like those are masculine pronouns and"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "you just switched up the entire"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "narrative. Like how how do you have a"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "following? Like how do you establish"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "that? It's that's crazy to me."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": ">> I mean, people just don't follow Christ,"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "you know, or don't know anything about"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "scripture. It's just like"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:01", "text": ">> Yeah. But it's it's so"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": ">> but the thing he's experiencing real"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "things and like he has people come out"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "with him to these areas where these orbs"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "come in. So like people it's like"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:13", "text": ">> I've seen the videos it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": ">> Yeah. And so it's like for people that"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "are on the fence if they're there if"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "they don't have a strong you know firm"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "foundation you see a an orb pop up."}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> And you're just like okay this guy is"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "being for real."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> Yeah. But why does that like I don't"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "know. I don't I don't understand his"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "biblical perspective at all. Like why do"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "that? Like why I Yeah. That's what I I"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "just don't understand him and I I"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "haven't looked into him. I don't"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "understand his beliefs."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:44", "text": ">> Um so I just don't understand how those"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "connect."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't want to get into it too"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "much because I don't I just don't like"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "talking bad about people unless you're"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "from France obviously."}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:55", "text": ">> Well yeah for sure. Everyone knows that"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "though."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": ">> if there is anyone in um in the chat if"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "you are from France let us know. We will"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "block you. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "Appreciate it. Uh, just kidding. I we we"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "don't have a problem with people from"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "France."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": ">> Dude, you are hilarious."}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:20", "text": ">> You tell the funniest joke sometimes."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:22", "text": ">> Shout out to my husband, Michael."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:23", "text": ">> Didn't we already do that?"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:24", "text": ">> We love you guys."}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:25", "text": ">> We love you, Michael."}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": ">> Yeah, we already did."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:27", "text": ">> Michael Weiss. Is that her?"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:29", "text": ">> Yeah, Michael."}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": ">> Yeah. What do What do How many shout"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "outs do you want?"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": ">> Hey, are you some sort of Weiss?"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "with some kind of white skin."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": ">> I mean, she paid for it. I'll do as many"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "as she wants to."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": ">> You know, we take it back. Actually,"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": ">> France. NO,"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": ">> NO, THAT guy's from Montana. He said he"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "had a duck and he named him Andy because"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "he the duck eats everything."}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "BLOCK HIM. GET HIM OUT."}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:56", "text": ">> UH,"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": ">> Carl Junction, Missouri. Oh, that's"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "right outside Joplin."}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:04", "text": ">> Neat. Oh, I forgot to mention with the"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "uh neat story, bro."}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "Thanks for that one. Oh, a fun fact from"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "Andy."}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": ">> Hey. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": ">> boo. Everyone donate money boo."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:22", "text": ">> Uh yeah. Um I was going to say with uh"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "Iran, they I I think it was today"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> they openly threatened um Trump."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": ">> What did they say? They said"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": ">> my president"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> they said with a picture of the the last"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "time that he was almost"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> they they had that picture and it said"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "this time we it will not miss the"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "target."}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": ">> Dude, what are Did they say that for"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "real? Like legitimately?"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": ">> Why did I get offended there so fast? I"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "No, dude. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:49", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:50", "text": ">> that's insane. You know he's not going"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "to take lightly. He's not going to be"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:55", "text": ">> no."}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": ">> All right, you got it. Okay, I'll stop."}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "Fine. You called my bluff,"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> dude. Do you see his video of him"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "getting heckled?"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:04", "text": ">> I sure did."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": ">> What? I mean, dude, that guy I mean,"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "anytime you bring up Mr. EPO,"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:13", "text": ">> right, Mr. EP with the island"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": ">> financially, he always gets a little"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "riled up or acts like it doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": ">> Oh, really? That's a button you can push"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "for sure. And"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:21", "text": ">> yeah, you've seen it in I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "the clip. I've just seen the one thing"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "where he like throws his hand gesture"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "up, but that's I haven't heard the"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "audio. something pretty terrible. And"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": ">> he said something before that. Do you"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "see that?"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:31", "text": ">> The"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:31", "text": ">> Trump what he said to the person."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:33", "text": ">> Oh, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:34", "text": ">> Oh, you can't say it on here."}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:36", "text": ">> Oh, of course you can."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> But you could clearly lipre what he said"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "to the man down there."}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:41", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I do. I think I"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "Yeah, I have it saved. I'm going to look"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "at it again."}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": ">> Yeah, that's crazy. As a president, just"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "throwing that out there. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "remember uh there was a time um George"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "Bush got caught on camera flipping off"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "the camera,"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:55", "text": ">> but that was really He was like smiling."}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "But yeah, he was fine as kid. But as a"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "kid,"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:38:58", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:38:59", "text": ">> you have this idea of a president and I"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "saw that I was like,"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:01", "text": ">> what?"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": ">> What? And I couldn't believe it. And now"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "it's just like broad daylight. It's just"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "not a problem at all."}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:13", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Navy."}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": ">> That's what someone said."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:17", "text": ">> I also miss the old Andy. What's the old"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "Andy like?"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:22", "text": ">> I'm telling you, dude, you look like a"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "freaking powerlifter right now."}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": ">> I haven't changed."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": ">> What else is going on, guys?"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:31", "text": ">> Oh, man. So much. What else do you guys"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "want us to talk about? What What's"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "What's a hot take you want to hear from"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "us?"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": ">> About to submit my Sunday quarter. You"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "guys are going to have some new stickers"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "soon"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": ">> from ninjas. Uh, I don't think we have."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "We should be dropping some stickers like"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "on a monthly basis. That'd be kind of"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:47", "text": ">> That'd be so"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": ">> Hey guys, happy birthday to me. Dennis."}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": ">> Dennis."}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": ">> Thank you, Dennis. We love you. Thank"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "you for watching, buddy. We love you,"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "Dennis."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:57", "text": ">> Thoughts on Iranians kicking out Islam"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": ">> Islamaza."}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": ">> Dude, have you seen the old like old"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "photos from over there before the regime"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "took over and it just looks like western"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "with brown skin?"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": ">> It's kind of crazy what that region used"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "to look like. I don't know if you've"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "seen all that stuff."}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:14", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": ">> Yeah, it's crazy."}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:21", "text": ">> What do I think about it? I have no"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "opinion except I value human life and I"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "love Jesus. So"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "that's it."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:27", "text": ">> Do that with what you will."}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:28", "text": ">> You should go into politics, dude. That"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "was good."}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:29", "text": ">> Thanks."}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:33", "text": ">> That was good."}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:37", "text": ">> But I think they shouldn't. But listen,"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:39", "text": ">> shout out to Vicki from Holly. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": ">> future predictions. Give us one for"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "2026."}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": ">> we we kind of talked about things that"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "we thought would happen."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": ">> someone just asked. Throwing out there"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": ">> Future predictions. Um,"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:58", "text": ">> I think"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": ">> I think we'll be allied. I think NATO"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "will dissolve"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:02", "text": ">> really"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": ">> or not dissolve. US will no longer be"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "part of NATO, but we'll be allied with"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "Russia."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:12", "text": ">> What a twist. And that's maybe not too"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "far of a stretch because Trump has said"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "how much he would really like to be"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "friends with"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "Putin and Russia. So, and then the whole"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "Greenland stuff, NATO's like, \"Stop it."}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "Don't do that anymore."}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:26", "text": ">> Stop it. Please,"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:31", "text": ">> please. You're making us very"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "uncomfortable. President Trump, no.\""}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:34", "text": ">> Um, that's how they all talk in NATO. I"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "don't know if you guys knew that."}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": ">> I think we're going to have joint"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "custody. United States and China"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": ">> over Russia or Greenland."}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:43", "text": ">> No, just over just us as a like"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:44", "text": ">> a world"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:45", "text": ">> as a world."}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:45", "text": ">> I thought you were talking about me, I"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "guess."}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:47", "text": ">> And they're going to like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:50", "text": ">> So, China gets Europe like on weekends."}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:52", "text": ">> Yeah. And then we get it and then we get"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "a free travel there."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": ">> I feel like that's only fair."}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": ">> Feel like it's only fair."}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": ">> How's Lily doing? She's full recovered"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": ">> almost. I She's doing great. She has a"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "lot more mobility in her arm."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "She will she will do dishes now."}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": ">> She will. She will."}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:13", "text": ">> Until then, we hired a lady to clean the"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "dishes."}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:17", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:18", "text": ">> No, she's doing great."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": ">> it's a weird weird weird way to start"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "the year"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:24", "text": ">> with her arm."}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:28", "text": ">> Someone said, who said it? They said"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "that if something really bad happens to"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "you at the beginning of the year, then"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "the rest of year is going to be amazing."}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": ">> Really? That's what someone told me."}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:37", "text": ">> Too bad it happened at the very end of"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "last year."}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:41", "text": ">> You're right."}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:42", "text": ">> You know what they say about that? If it"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "happens at the very end of the last"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "year,"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:45", "text": ">> then it's just going to be terrible."}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:47", "text": ">> It's going to be okay at the beginning"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "and then get really bad at the end."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> That's what they say."}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:52", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": ">> I think uh um uh Marcus Aurelia said"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:56", "text": ">> I I think so."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": ">> I read it in one of his books. You hear"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "uh what's it what's it called? Um,"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "uh, some guy got some stoic got, uh,"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "removed from all teaching at&m,"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "Texas&M. It's, uh, Aristotle. No, it's"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "golly. Let me look it up."}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:17", "text": ">> See, I'm personally, uh, akin to the"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "Baylor Bears, so Aggies can"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "do whatever they want."}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": ">> Someone wants a Dolphins or Aliens"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "hoodie. We are working on something, I"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "promise."}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:25", "text": ">> Are we?"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": ">> Play-Doh. They're not doing anything"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "with Plato apparently cuz it's uh too"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "woke."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:31", "text": ">> I mean it is"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:33", "text": ">> Plato."}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:34", "text": ">> It's a college. The philosopher."}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> Well, the the the stuff that you play"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "with."}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": ">> Yeah. They can you believe this? Texas"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "A&M has banned Play-Doh."}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": ">> That no for real. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:46", "text": ">> All teach."}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:48", "text": ">> Has banned Play-Doh."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Apparently there's some stuff that"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "he teaches about uh gender and stuff"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "like that. So, they're saying THIS IS"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "OVER THE LINE, TOO SOON, GUYS."}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": ">> You'd have to delete every psychology uh"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "major if you actually looked into half"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "the crap those weirdos believed."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": ">> Like, look at"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "shout OUT TO DEREK TAZ."}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": ">> Derek Taz in the building."}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:21", "text": ">> Will have its first native leader. He"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "will dismantle everything in many first"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "nations"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "prophecy like the seven fires. I've"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "never heard of that."}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> Look up Adrien the Realist."}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:32", "text": ">> I'm handy."}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": ">> Yo, a native"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "leader of Canada. That would be pretty"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "dope."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:37", "text": ">> What does that mean? Like somebody just"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "from Canada?"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> Or Native American?"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:41", "text": ">> Oh, that'd be dope."}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": ">> Or Native Canadian."}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:47", "text": ">> Where's Native American restaurants,"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": ">> dude? Is that not crazy? I've eaten at"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "one in"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:49", "text": ">> You have"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:51", "text": ">> Cherokee, North Carolina."}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:53", "text": ">> I've never seen one."}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:54", "text": ">> I had a buffalo burger."}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:55", "text": ">> That sounds great."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:56", "text": ">> Bison burger."}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:00", "text": ">> that also feels a little maybe not"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "authentic."}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:03", "text": ">> It was I ate it and it was good."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> I think my dad was actually part"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "Buffalo."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": ">> Bye, son."}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. And I missed I missed the"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "camera cut for that."}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:14", "text": ">> No, that was good."}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": ">> Very good."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "That'd be cool. But yeah, that's super"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "strange. I mean, I want some fry bread,"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:24", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:25", "text": ">> that'd be good. Let's open one up."}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:28", "text": ">> Some peyote."}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": ">> Let's Let's open one up."}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:31", "text": ">> Do you want to hire anybody that's uh"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "actually native? No, we I think we got"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "it. It just turns into just like a Taco"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "Bell basically."}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:40", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:47", "text": ">> if the glove fits, you must have quit."}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "If the glove doesn't fit,"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "do we think OJ did it?"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:54", "text": ">> Honestly, who knows?"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": ">> Who knows? At this point,"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": ">> it's so like there's so many things that"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "could go either way."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "Someone said Greenland Trump thoughts."}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "We kind of talked about it a little bit,"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "but I will say, what's the"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:08", "text": ">> He wants a bad dude."}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:08", "text": ">> The Shirley guy that did the Minnesota"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Nathan Shirley, I think his name"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:14", "text": ">> Yeah. He went to um Greenland and was"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "interviewing people. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": ">> And he's like, \"Um, how do you feel"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "about the America America, United States"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "buying Greenland?\" And people are like,"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "\"I mean, Greenland's it's not for sale.\""}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:26", "text": ">> Yeah. That'd be just like like"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:27", "text": ">> Yeah. And then"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:28", "text": ">> like your neighbor just going to your"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "house like, \"I think I'm going to buy"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "your house.\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:32", "text": ">> you can't"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": ">> you can't I mean, this is my house."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:34", "text": ">> We're going to buy it."}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:35", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:36", "text": ">> I want it though. I want it and I'm"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "going to tell everyone about it in the"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "town. I want your house."}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:41", "text": ">> That would be insane."}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:43", "text": ">> Yeah. But he's talking to these younger"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "guys. He's like, \"Well, what if each uh"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "citizen was paid $50,000?\" And he's"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "like, \"It's not for sale, man.\" And he's"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "like, \"What about $100,000?\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "\"Well,\""}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:55", "text": ">> he's like, \"I mean, I probably that I'll"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "probably be all right with that.\" And"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "he's like, \"Well, what about Greenland"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "is Greenland? It's not for sale.\" He's"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "like, \"I mean, money is money, too.\""}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": ">> At the end of the day, my my loyalty"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "stands with me and my family."}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": ">> That's when he learns about American"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "capital gains tax and gets ticked off"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "all over again."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": ">> 50%. Sorry, that's a syntax."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": ">> Wait, what kind of taxes he"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:17", "text": ">> I can't believe he That's crazy. They"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "called it syntax, too. That's like"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "hitting the nail right on the head."}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:21", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what he proposed."}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": ">> Um, but the um the Greenland stuff,"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "people are saying it's because of like"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "all the minerals and stuff that"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "Greenland possess. But it sounds like"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "it's a very"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:34", "text": ">> strategic spot because I mean it's"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "literally at the top of the world, you"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "know, and it's like right there is China"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "and Russia. Yeah. And so it's like it"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "goes back to kind of like the cold war"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "era"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": ">> where we talked about those silos that"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "the US built in were trying to build in"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "Greenland. It's always been a pretty hot"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:52", "text": ">> like whoever has Greenland has"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:55", "text": ">> sure"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:57", "text": ">> what"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "I miss the seven fires thing. We'll look"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "into it."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I think they said there's a"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "bunch of treaties that are about to"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "expire and so there's different things"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "that can happen."}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": ">> Denmark. No, no. Talking about the first"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "native."}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:15", "text": ">> Shout out Abraham Aiden Adams"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "Stoodto, Missouri."}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "Shout out Abraham."}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:22", "text": ">> He's a father to many sons apparently."}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:26", "text": ">> I got to look this up real quick because"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "I thought this was crazy. Um"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "I was just curious. I'm like, how long"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "has um"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "Denmark had Greenland? Oh, this isn't"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "giving me the same answer."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "Well, technically,"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "um,"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "uh, they've had it since 1721."}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "Denmark has had"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": ">> Greenland. But it goes back to even like"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "the Danish Vikings started colonizing on"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "Greenland in the 1300s."}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:56", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:59", "text": ">> So, the Danish people have had"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "been in the Greenland area since the"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "1300s."}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:04", "text": ">> Which is crazy."}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:07", "text": ">> That is wild. A lot of history. ancient"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "history. Also, it is a lot of ice."}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:11", "text": ">> It is a lot of ice."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": ">> You corrected me and you said it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "on one pod."}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:16", "text": ">> No, you talked about Iceland. I said"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "Iceland doesn't matter."}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:18", "text": ">> Was it Iceland?"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:19", "text": ">> You said"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": ">> No, I'm pretty sure it was Greenland"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "because it's the opposite thing because"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "it's like that was the whole thing with"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "like Leaf Ericson and stuff like when"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "they were naming it."}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:29", "text": ">> Like they wanted to push people over."}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:32", "text": ">> Well, if I if I said something wrong,"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:36", "text": ">> But I didn't. So take it. Why do we do"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "that then?"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "I think it'd be crazy. I mean, let's"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "just like go down that road. What does"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "that look like if they were truly to"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "like we we would have to invade, right?"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "Or there would have to be a major deal"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "struck"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:51", "text": ">> with Green or"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Greenland."}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": ">> It would have it'd have to be just a"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "deal. We're not gonna storm the beaches"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "of Greenland."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:49:59", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:49:59", "text": ">> And America wouldn't support that as"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:05", "text": ">> No. So it's like"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:07", "text": ">> um I know Trump and Vance and some other"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "people they're meeting with"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "uh I think um Denmark"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:16", "text": ">> like they're doing a whole thing to like"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "discuss like the US's influence in"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "Greenland and stuff. So we'll see what"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "happens."}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": ">> I think it was Iceland that we were"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "talking about that one time."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Cuz you're like, \"Well, Iceland's"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "really green.\" And I said, \"No, it's"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "not.\""}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Then I remember people that we"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "know that have gone to Iceland and like"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "seen the pictures. It looks really cold."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "It's like so cold."}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:37", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:38", "text": ">> I I'll shake your hand again for that. I"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "apologize."}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:44", "text": ">> Um Oh, what was I going to say? Oh, I"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "saw this study"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "um this thing that popped up with"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "Denmark."}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "and consumption of weed"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:51:00", "text": ">> in Denmark and schizophrenia"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "is skyrocketing paralleling the rise of"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "weed smokers in Denmark."}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:05", "text": ">> Really"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:07", "text": ">> skitso."}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": ">> I mean, there's got to be stuff in it,"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:11", "text": ">> I mean, there's no way. It's too big of"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:12", "text": ">> They don't call it the devil's lettuce"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "for nothing."}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:14", "text": ">> Heyo. Hey,"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:15", "text": ">> stay away."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:16", "text": ">> Yeah, I just thought that was"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "interesting. I wanted to look into that"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "more. Yeah, that's definitely I mean"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "there's got to be it's definitely a I"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "mean I don't know anything about it, but"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "it's like one of those things where it's"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "just there's got to be certain chemicals"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "that you're inhaling and putting into"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "your body and the way that it's a huge"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "market for it now and it's getting only"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "bigger and bigger. It's definitely it"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "would definitely be a way to control"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "people, but schizophrenia"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:38", "text": ">> I feel like an old person like they're"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "control the government's controlling"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "your mind with the devil's lettuce."}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> They're doing it."}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:44", "text": ">> That's how they would do it."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": ">> They could be."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": ">> That's scary though, dude."}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Schizophrenia."}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "Remember those sounds of people that"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "like how it sounds like what it sounds"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "like to have schizophrenia?"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:56", "text": ">> No thank you."}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": ">> No thank you."}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:02", "text": ">> Um I also I want to do research and talk"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "about on a podcast but the Cuz you saw"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "the food pyramid got changed."}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:06", "text": ">> Yeah, dude."}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:07", "text": ">> Yeah. I haven't seen it though."}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:08", "text": ">> Flipped upside down."}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:09", "text": ">> Let's get a picture of it. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "seen it yet."}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:11", "text": ">> You haven't? It's literally the food"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "pyramid flipped upside down."}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:13", "text": ">> Oh, so grains are on the bottom."}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:19", "text": ">> Yeah. But this one guy, everyone should"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "go watch this video. Hold on."}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:23", "text": ">> Hold up. Um,"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:28", "text": ">> you sound like you you have one of those"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "uh what is the the smoking thing in the"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:32", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": ">> that is so trippy sound."}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:36", "text": ">> Do you"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "some people talking trash about me in"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "the comments?"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:41", "text": ">> Dude, there's the fight."}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:44", "text": ">> There's some there's some hate in there."}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "this guy on Tik Tok. He goes by Davis"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "Jones."}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": ">> Davis Jones."}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:50", "text": ">> And everyone watching should go to Tik"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "Tok or maybe his Instagram. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "if he's on there. Davis Jones. And he"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "has a video called the real food"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "pyramid."}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:00", "text": ">> Okay. And he goes into the history of"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "the food pyramid structure and how it"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "was originally created in the United"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "States"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:11", "text": ">> and how all these scientists"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "and these health experts were paid off"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "by big sugar."}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": ">> All these companies that own the like"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "sugar mills and all this stuff that were"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "pumping stuff into food, they were"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "threatened."}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:25", "text": ">> And so the food pyramid that we had for"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "years"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "was based off of paying people off and"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "saying grain is the best. They said"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "scientists said a healthy a moderately"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "healthy amount of grain would be what"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "did they say like two to four servings."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:49", "text": ">> For an adult. And what came out was like"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "no the healthiest thing would be 6 to 11"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "servings"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:51", "text": ">> of grain"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:52", "text": ">> of grain."}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:53", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:55", "text": ">> That's what the old food pyramid said."}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:59", "text": ">> Yeah. I that's crazy. And you can see"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "the track with the the the the"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "new food or the old food pyramid, the"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "rise in diabetes."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "It's crazy,"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:11", "text": ">> dude. That's I mean, it makes total"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "sense. Just eat whole foods."}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:12", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:14", "text": ">> I'm I mean I"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:15", "text": ">> Bobby's doing good."}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:17", "text": ">> I'm probably going to be buying some"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "Panda Express after this."}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": ">> Not going to lie."}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": ">> That's a sponsor I'd take. I'd take a"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "Panda Express."}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "Someone says that shows that you just"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "can't trust a new pyramid. And I agree."}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": ">> What can you trust? All you can What you"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "can trust is how do healthy countries"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "eat?"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:38", "text": ">> Single ingredient foods."}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:38", "text": ">> Whole foods."}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:41", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": ">> proteins are great."}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "That's it. Fruits and veggies."}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:45", "text": ">> Go get your own food."}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:47", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": ">> that's what you can even clean."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": ">> But not out of Lake Aapka."}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": ">> What about Where was I? I was one of the"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "other lakes in the area. Dude, I got my"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "limit this morning and I cleaned my"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "limit and it took me an hour to clean"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "six birds. And as I'm cleaning these"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "ducks, I'm thinking to myself,"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:08", "text": ">> the amount of chicken that I'll eat in a"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "single meal if I had to get my own"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "chicken."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:13", "text": ">> Like my portion size would be so much"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "smaller. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:16", "text": ">> It took forever."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": ">> Someone raised a good point, Andy. We"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "can trust the government."}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:20", "text": ">> Wait a minute."}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:22", "text": ">> We can tr"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:23", "text": ">> You're saying we could trust them? like"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "actually have like faith in them."}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": ">> Yeah, we I mean we would never say we"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "would never even speculate"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:30", "text": ">> or even like"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:32", "text": ">> with what the what"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:33", "text": ">> I'm trying to think of the reverse of"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": ">> Like how like would that would be like"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "not trust?"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:39", "text": ">> Wait a minute."}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:40", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:42", "text": ">> I don't think we would ever do"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": ">> guys. Of course you can trust the"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "government."}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": ">> They they care about you."}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": ">> They want the best for you."}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": ">> They want you healthy and stuff. Golly."}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "I mean, they're here to take care of us."}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:55", "text": ">> They're here to take care of us, guys."}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": ">> I mean, I can't imagine the government"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "ever taking advantage of someone that"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "they've been entrusted with to take care"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "of, to love, and to nourish."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": ">> Yeah. So, thank you for reminding us."}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": ">> For sure, guys. And I hope you don't you"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "I hope you've never ever felt that we've"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "given that any idea of you to not trust"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "the government. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:16", "text": ">> Yeah, that is."}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": ">> I don't want you to feel that way. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "I have to do a hard check and see like"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "how am I talking?"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:21", "text": ">> How's my selft talk?"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:23", "text": ">> You know, like how like how am I"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "speaking about the government in a way"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "where people are misconstring this whole"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "idea that I'm telling them not to trust"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:32", "text": ">> Golly,"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:33", "text": ">> my son W and are big fans of the"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "podcast. Come to Ben, Oregon again for"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "some river rafting."}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:38", "text": ">> We love Ben, Oregon."}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": ">> Again."}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:40", "text": ">> Oh, Matt."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:41", "text": ">> You've went there?"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:43", "text": ">> Yeah. What about Matt?"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:43", "text": ">> I've lived there,"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:46", "text": ">> huh?"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": ">> I've lived there. You've been there?"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Ben, Oregon was dope. Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "Who's Matt Gruber?"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:53", "text": ">> We hung out with them there. Me, my dad,"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:55", "text": ">> Yeah. When you didn't bring me."}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": ">> Interesting. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I think that's actually when"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "a hurricane was hitting. We were in"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "Oregon."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:08", "text": ">> I know. Imagine you hire a guy from"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "Missouri and I've been here for a month"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "and then a hurricane is hitting and I'm"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "terrified and you're like, \"Hey, by the"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "way, I'm going to go visit a place that"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "you used to live and love and I'm and"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "I'm just going to leave you here. Hope"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "hope you have fun.\" Uh,"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:20", "text": ">> that was my reality."}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> Yeah. I only trust the government and"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "Sunday. Cool. That's our new slogan"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "right there."}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:29", "text": ">> Nice. That should be a bumper sticker."}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:30", "text": ">> That would Yep."}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:31", "text": ">> That would actually be funny."}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:33", "text": ">> That would be"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": ">> We need a new bumper sticker this year."}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:35", "text": ">> That is true."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:37", "text": ">> We do."}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:39", "text": ">> What's our slogan for our bumper"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "sticker, guys? Suggestion. If we pick"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "your comment, we'll get you a free one"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "and a t-shirt."}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "Andy looks like he's about to move some"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "pallets at Home Depot."}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:52", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": ">> dude. T-shirts I want to see back. All"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "those pray for vegans. I would love to"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "just see if our audience would buy."}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:58", "text": ">> Every time I wear that shirt, I get"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "someone talking to me about it."}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> I had a dude come up to me at Disney,"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "put his hand on my shoulder, and he was"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "like, I am a vegan and my family prays"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "for me and I appreciate your shirt."}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:08", "text": ">> Let's just make a ninjas pray for vegan"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "shirt,"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:10", "text": ">> dude. For real."}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:10", "text": ">> I mean, yeah, that'd be dope."}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": ">> I think that should be our next podcast"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "once we get the new studio. Once we'll"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "be out the property, we start."}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": ">> You guys can't take that."}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:18", "text": ">> No, it's trademark."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:21", "text": ">> We got it."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:22", "text": ">> Uh, but yeah, that would be a fun We"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "just do a food podcast"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:25", "text": ">> and then we go."}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": ">> You would like that, wouldn't you? We"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "would Andy would never stop talking."}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "We'd have so much content."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": ">> Do it for the pod. I'm just like 500 lb."}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": ">> It's a daily podcast."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": ">> How's this possible?"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> He's really motivated."}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": ">> Oh man. Well, guys,"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": ">> is it time?"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:48", "text": ">> I think it's about time."}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": ">> It's flown on by. Pray for the French."}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "That would be actually hilarious."}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": ">> Pray for the French."}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": ">> That actually might be good."}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": ">> All right, that's a great one. Actually,"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": ">> it could have been better. Hit us up on"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "Instagram, Ninjas of Butterflies. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "send it to us"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:05", "text": ">> and we'll uh we might send you some."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:06", "text": ">> We should just have a pray for"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:07", "text": ">> if we use it"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:08", "text": ">> shirt line."}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:09", "text": ">> That would be good."}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:11", "text": ">> That would be good."}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": ">> Pray for vegans. Pray for the French."}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:14", "text": ">> Yeah, it's just very specific."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:16", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": ">> we need to do a Greenland shirt like a"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "like a America like have the Greenland"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "uh but it's like a like like the new"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "found like America version of it. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:28", "text": ">> that'd be so funny."}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:31", "text": ">> This land is Greenland"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> and now it's our land."}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:34", "text": ">> All right, guys. We love you."}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:36", "text": ">> Like the video real quick."}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": ">> Yeah, make sure before you go, hit that"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "like. Help us out."}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:41", "text": ">> Hit the like on this video right now."}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "You're watching, you're typing, you're"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "listening to our voices, and we're"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "begging you from the bottom of our"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "hearts. Please like, thumbs up this"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "video right now. And go tell your"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "grandma. Go tell your grandma about this"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "podcast. Send us a video of you showing"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "our podcast to your grandma or grandpa."}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "And if you upload that video to"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "Instagram, we will send you a shirt. or"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "just somebody old,"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:13", "text": ">> just an old elderly person."}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:14", "text": ">> People don't have grandmas and grandpas."}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:16", "text": ">> Sure. Show if you"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": ">> find somebody's grandma or grandpa."}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": ">> If you tag us in a video of you showing"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "us uh and um you showing an elderly"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "person our podcast, we will send you"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "something. I promise you."}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:25", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": ">> I love you."}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": ">> We love you guys. And I just saw Caleb"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "had a pray for vegan stickers. That's"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "dope. Very cool. We love you and we'll"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "see you this Friday."}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": ">> Yes. DON'T MISS IT. IT'S A GOOD ONE."}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:38", "text": ">> YEAH. Lily's on. She's going to talk"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "about her K-hole trip."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:40", "text": ">> Yep. Ketamine, baby."}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:41", "text": ">> Ketamine."}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:43", "text": ">> Get it while it lasts."}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:45", "text": ">> Some people like it, others don't. My"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "wife doesn't. That scares her."}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:48", "text": ">> Find out why. Right."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:49", "text": ">> All right, guys. Love you. Bye-bye."}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": ">> Byebye. Byebye. What do I click?"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:51", "text": ">> The the"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:52", "text": ">> TURN IT OFF."}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": ">> STOP."}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": ">> TURN IT OFF."}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:56", "text": ">> JUST END STREAM."}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": ">> NO."}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:00", "text": ">> STOP IT, ANDREW."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The frogman of Lovelin, Ohio. And if we"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "know anything about Ohio is it's"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> not real."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> So the first sighting was near this"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "river in Lovelin called the Little Miami"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "River. Traveling salesman who was"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "driving at night and he was coming up to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "this bridge and he saw three humanoid"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "froglike figures standing about 4t tall"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "in the middle of the road like talking"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "to each other. He described it as"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "leathery greenish gray skin, froglike"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "face, standing upright on two legs and"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "seen interacting with each other. And he"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "described as like not like animals and"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "then he was just kind of sitting there"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "in his car like freaked out and then"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "they saw him and then they just jumped"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "over the bridge."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Frog jumped."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> You could just pass on through."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> Then the police had a sighting in"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Loveland, Ohio in 1972. This officer's"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "name was Ray Shocki. He was really"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "shocked. He was on night patrol near the"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "river, same river. In the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "road, crouched on the road was this same"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "looking 4 foot tall, froglike head,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "leathery skin, large eyes, and he"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "describes as appeared intelligent, not"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "startled like an uh like an animal. So"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "he said it basically like it saw him and"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "just stood up and just like kind of just"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "walked over to the bridge and just"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "lightly hopped over."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Weird."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Even today, people still see near this"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "river these froglike men"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> just wandering about. Now, that's"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "something that would be terrifying."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> We send that guy who went to Minnesota"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "and exposed the fraud, send him to Ohio"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "and see if there's a frogman."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "No man's land, a city where no man has"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "gone before. This is a place called Owl"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Farm. It's a thousand acre land that is"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "ran by 40 women. And a long time ago,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "back in the 70s, they pulled their"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "money, built homes, and they have farmed"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "the land. They only spent $500 a month."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "They have solar panels, collect water"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "with gravity-fed machinery. They do all"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "their gardening with food and medicinal"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "stuff. In the past 48 years, there"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "hasn't been one 911 call, not one police"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "officer, and no sheriff call in over 48"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "years. You can't live there unless you"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "are invited to. You must be voted in by"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "every single woman that lives there."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Wow. How do they enforce this? If like a"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "police officer or government officials"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "can't step foot on their land, have they"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "just not tried?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> I don't know what the laws are there. I"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "know in Florida like game wardens have"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "more jurisdiction than about anyone"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "because they can like look for"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "violations of that sort of stuff. So I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "putting it out in the universe right"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "now. I heard that they're uh they're"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "illegally harvesting animals out of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "season."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> So now a game warden has just caused to"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "go out there and look around."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> I I wonder if anyone's ever like gone in"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "and done a documentary on that. I'd be"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "interested to see what that's like."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> Yeah, I would love to see that."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> That's probably a great scenario. As"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "long as it's not like a cult. I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "know anything about it, but if it's like"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "run well and stuff, that's pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Where's Man's Land?"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Yeah. United States."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Can you hear something that's not so"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "fun?"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": ">> Forgotten people."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Who?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> The Enu people."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> This was really actually fast."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> How do you spell it?"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> Uh, A I N U, but it's pronounced Enu."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> A lot of vowels."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> Golly, I'm so sorry. I knew. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> I haven't typed out."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> You didn't know actually."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": ">> the I knew people."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Good try, Daddy."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Dang. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Let's just move on."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Let's go. All right. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "watching."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> But they're appar They're the original"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "inhabiters"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "of the island of Japan."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> And if you look them up, their features"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "are insane. Like they they look nothing"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "like Japanese people."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> And what do Japanese people look like,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Josh? What are they supposed to look"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "like?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Roll clip."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Stop it. Every Wow. They look like kind"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "of European or something."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Russian."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> Uh, but basically they claim they've"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "been on this island since like 12,000"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "years. They were the inhabitants of"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Japan. And it wasn't until the people"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "from the Korean peninsula went to Japan"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "and started setting up colonies of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "farming and stuff that they basically"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "started growing and growing, growing and"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "started pushing the IU people out. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "um, yeah, it was like in the 1400s and"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "1700s, Japanese traders exploited the"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Inu communities. Um, and there was like"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "a revolt. There was like wars happening"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "with these people. But there's such a"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "small majority now in Japan. And they,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Japan claims that they only inhabited"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "like the northern part of Japan, like"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "that little island."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what Google AI just said,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "too. But this documentary I watched is"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "like no they they claim they inhabited"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "all of Japan. So they were all over."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> They were just like weeded out."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> Terrible."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Um but they have these crazy"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "stories from ancient Japan where they"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "talk about giants"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> and uh they actually there's this one"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "type of giant but it's not a giant. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "a little thing."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> Mhm. Um they are called the corpo core"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "corpo"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "corpor."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Jeez."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> The corpoor."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> Mhm. which were these little beings"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "these but they called them giants"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "because what they would do they claimed"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "that basically before they inhabited"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "this island these things existed and"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "they would build megalithic structures"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "structures using this ancient technology"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "of like moving stones melting stone like"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "they had this capabilities and then they"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "eventually just got wiped out with the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "flood."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Talk about the flood. They have a flood"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "story too."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> But they also talk about these giants"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "that inhabited the land where they were"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "like literal giants, man-eating giants."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Yeah. And so they had these stories of"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "battling them and stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> But I mean, I was just fascinated. I've"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "never heard of the I knew people of"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Japan."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Like they're literally like as close to"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "a caveman as you can get with their"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "genealogy."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> That's crazy. I wonder like where where"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "do they come from? Like where do they"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> they they suggest that at one point when"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the world was frozen that they came from"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "like Siberia or Siberian"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> region? Yeah, cuz they have like kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Russian features."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> What's interesting about their"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "traditional makeup? Did you see like"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "their their big painted lips?"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> I always wonder if that was paint or"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "tattoo."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> Oh yeah, true."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> Which would be crazy that in Japan"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> they would do tattoos like Yeah, that"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "was like one of their tra they were"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "hunter gatherers and they would tattoo"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "their bodies. They would grow these"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "giant beards out."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> So cool."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> Like they're literally like Siberian"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Japanese cavemen."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> So cool."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": ">> So, how do we get the Japanese of today?"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Did they come over from like"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> the Korean Peninsula?"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Is that still there?"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Korea."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Does it connect to the island of Japan?"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> No, they they sailed over. Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> I said it earlier, but"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> Oh, I missed it. Sorry. I was googling."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "That's so interesting, Josh."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Yeah. a chief of war docu like style"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "show on those people. I knew people"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "that'd be dope."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> You could do that for like so many"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "different uh groups. If you look at like"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "the Philippines, there's the word"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "translates to small black person. So, I"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "don't know if it's a slur or not, so I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "not going to say it, but the original"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "inhabitants of the islands were like"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "huntergatherer like bow and arrow"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "hunting"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> of Hawaii."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> No, no, no. Philippines."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> Oh, Philippines."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Philippines. Yeah. But like you look at"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "them and you don't see me at all. Like"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "uh let me see if I can find a historic"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "photo."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> It's cuz you got that Canadian."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> This is crazy though. I will say the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Japanese people have treated the IU"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "people terribly."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> And it wasn't until 2008 that Japan"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "officially recognized the uh I knew"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "people as indigenous people."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> We would never do that to our natives."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "[laughter] That's the thing. America"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "would never do that again. No. Not a"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "chance. Learn from us."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> The Philippines."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> Oh, wow. But does that not look That"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "looks nothing like"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> Yeah, that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Evolution, man."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> Evolution. It's a crazy thing."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> 2008 is crazy though."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> I know. 200 is nuts"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> cuz that Japan basically painted this"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "narrative of like they've been there"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "since the beginning"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> and I knew people this whole time were"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "like no you guys came here and took over"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "our island."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> Remember when we showed you around"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> and forced them up to the most northern"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "part where it's like really not super it"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "gets crazy cold and like snow and stuff."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> Where is that? Like Aahu? No."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> You want to try that again? [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> Where is that? You don't"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> It's just Japan."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "Osaka."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> Osaka. That's what I meant to say."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> Honolulu."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> Edit that out, baby, please. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> And then in 2008, after moving them all"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "out, they're like looking around like,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> \"Have you seen any of these guys? The I"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "knew people.\""}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> But what's crazy, the J like I think"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "they say the majority of people living"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "in Japan have 1%"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "of I knew DNA in them."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> That's cool."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> So it's a part of their culture still."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Wow. So, at some point they like"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "integrated to a degree."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Or maybe force integrate."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> Oh, don't say that. It could have"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> It could. I don't. Yep. Anyways,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> that's wild."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "[screaming]"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:55", "text": ">> Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "empty your mind. You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "[screaming]"}]

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"end": "00:03:35", "text": "time in march there was no fish in it"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "and at this time in life frank and bella"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "could not be more satisfied with life"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "having bought the perfect piece of"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "property they're now close to their own"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "kids and grandchildren everything is"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "perfect and so it was now that frank had"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "decided he really wanted access to that"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "basement because the curiosity was"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "getting the best of him and he wanted to"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "see what was down there he really wanted"}, {"start": 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"00:11:25", "text": "more going on than what she had"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "initially thought with these small"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "handful of strange things that have"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "already been transpiring on the property"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "itself frank and bella weren't ready to"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "jump to any conclusions just yet"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "but one event would drastically change"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "frank's opinion and make him believe"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "that there was something now in the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "house moving into mid to late april"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "bella had decided to go spend the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "evening or night alone with her daughter"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "and so frank was left at the house all"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "by himself for the night which was fine"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "he was going to enjoy the peace and"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "quiet and solitude that came with being"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "by himself so there frank was sitting in"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "the living room reading a book with the"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "tv on in the background on low volume"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "just for kind of background noise and a"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "loud crash sounds out of nowhere from"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "upstairs followed by heavy footfalls"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "going right to the base of the stairs"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "immediately frank throws his book down"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "and runs over to the stairwell and turns"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "his light on he's panicking thinking"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "somebody has broken into the house"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "they've been waiting in one of the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "closets for the time to steal and are"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "now trying to get out of the house frank"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "already has a little revolver in his"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "hand ready to go and he is not wasting a"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "second so he begins to slowly ascend the"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "stairwell and can see the start of the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "hallway where the footfalls had ended"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "and believes that who's ever upstairs"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "was now hiding and so he gets to the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "very top and at the top of these stairs"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "there doesn't seem to be anyone else"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "around there's only two rooms and one"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "bathroom the one room is a storage room"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "and the room on the far right at the end"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "of the hallway is bella and frank's"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "bedroom and off to the very left of that"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "is a bathroom so he quickly goes to the"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "storage door swings it open turns the"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "light on there's nobody in there just a"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "few boxes and it is ultimately an empty"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "room so he immediately turns around"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "walks down towards the end of the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "hallway he notices the bathroom door to"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "his left is closed but his bedroom door"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "was cracked open now normally frank and"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "bella always closed their door or so he"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "described and he immediately knew that"}, 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wrong nothing had fallen there"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "was nothing out of place he spent at"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "least a good minutes scouring the entire"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "upstairs and source of this noise but"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "could not find anything and at this"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "point frank began to believe that he was"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "going crazy so he left the upstairs"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "going back down to his chair and trying"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "to get back into his book keeping his"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "revolver very close to his side for"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "comfort or to drown out his own insanity"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "he 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"hand scouting around the house"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "but the problem was he cannot discern"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "the location from these two mysterious"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "whispering voices it didn't sound like"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "it was upstairs it did not sound like it"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "was coming from the kitchen but it"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "sounded like it was coming from all"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "around frank began to think he was going"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "crazy and just as soon as the voices had"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "begun they had stopped bella whose"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "original plans were to stay the night at"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "her daughter's house had decided to come"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "home late and she had found frank up"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "still at one in the morning clutching"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "his revolver terrified when she had sat"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "down and spoken to him he explained to"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "her what was going on and claimed that"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "there was either something really wrong"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "with the house or that he was going"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "crazy and that's when bella began to"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "tell him all of her own experiences that"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "she had been having up to this very"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "point but never wanted to mention them"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "to frank fear fear that he would laugh"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "at her make fun of her not believe her"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "or whatever other reason there was even"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "though these events were very disturbing"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "to frank and bella they never once"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "thought oh the house is haunted or it"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "has a spirit or demon in it they just"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "thought the house had some quirks i"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "guess you would call it because in"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "frank's mind he did not even want to"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "entertain this ridiculous notion that"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "there are spirits or ghosts in the home"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "to him that was so outlandish and there"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "had to be a rational explanation for all"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the things going on even though he felt"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "like he was being driven crazy and this"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "is when frank had decided to spend a"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "little bit more time outside maybe"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "working on the property would kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "help freshen his mind and perhaps it"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "really was a mole issue in the house"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "that was causing him to hallucinate and"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "go crazy so he began spending more time"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "working on the shed and working on the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "garden outside and this is when he ran"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "into a host of other strange experiences"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "that he could not explain he would be"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "spending afternoons out there hoeing"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "raking pulling weeds just cleaning"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "things up and he would hear these"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "mysterious buzzing sounds or humming"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "noises that he could not explain now the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "way frank described it was like a giant"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "generator but about 10 feet below your"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "feet in the ground or that sometimes it"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "would sound like it was coming from"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "everywhere or above you in the sky but"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "yet there's clearly no trace of heavy"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "machinery around other times the woods"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "that were full of life and birds would"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "suddenly go silent for an indefinite"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "amount of time and then return suddenly"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "these things disturbed frank and really"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "bothered him but he couldn't find a"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "rational explanation to why they were"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "happening probably one of the more"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "terrifying experiences frank had was"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "when he was out on the back side of the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "house splitting wood right near the"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "thickly wooded tree line where he all of"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "a sudden felt like he was in eminent"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "danger that something was going to hurt"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "him or attack him and he began looking"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "around and he began hearing this noise"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "of something really big slowly coming"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "towards his direction"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "now as he looked because the brush is so"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "thick he couldn't get a full picture of"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "what was coming towards him but the one"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "thing that really bothered him was that"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "whatever this was was not a bear because"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "it was tall and not so much wide and"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "short that whatever was coming towards"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "him was easily over eight feet tall"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "because of where the branches are on"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "that specific tree he was watching frank"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "described that he did not see any"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "details of this black mass of a shape"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "approaching the open tree line but that"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "frank immediately felt fear grabbed a"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "piece of the logs he was cutting and"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "chucked it at this shape and begin to"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "turn around and move quickly back"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "towards the house as he's moving back"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "towards the house he looks back and sees"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "the shape is mysteriously gone now but"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "that he could feel in the pit of his"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "stomach that something was wrong not"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "even two days after this event frank was"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "making himself a sandwich in the kitchen"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "when he heard his wife bella pulling up"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "from the house from buying groceries"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "within seconds she lets out a blood"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "curdling scream and sounds like she is"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "in sheer panic frank responding to his"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "wife runs out to see what the matter is"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "and she is screaming and pointing"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "towards the tree line but before frank"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "could even run down and get to her to"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "see what she's pointing at bella is"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "running past frank pushing him in the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "house screaming at him to lock the doors"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "bella is hysterical at what she had"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "apparently saw in the woods after frank"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "is practically shaking her getting her"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "to calm down because she's so hysterical"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "to explain what she saw or what the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "problem is she tells frank that whatever"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "was in the tree line watching her was"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "this large wolf with teeth that were too"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "large to be in its mouth and that this"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "dog or wolf was so huge it frightened"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "her immediately frank goes and grabs his"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "revolver walks outside to where the car"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "is and where the bag of groceries had"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "now dropped on the ground rolling down"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "the driveway he looks around but doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "see anything frank unsure of what to"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "make of his own wife's experience just"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "decides to be a good husband and comfort"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "her and explain that everything is going"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "to be okay even though that would not be"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "the case and there was something"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "unexplainable about the house they had"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "now moved into in hendersonville"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "tennessee frank described that this was"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "really one of the many turning points of"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "when bella and frank began to just feel"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "this constant uneasiness that they were"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "always uncomfortable and felt like they"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "were always looking over their shoulder"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "because something was bound to happen"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "and this is when frank described the"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "activity to increase tenfold all around"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "the property inside the house outside"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "the house it did not matter it seemed"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "like there were things going on beyond"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "the comprehension of both bella and"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "frank but neither one of them would"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "openly admit to demons or ghosts or"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "spirits being on the property or living"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "the property frank had never disclosed"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "him and bella's religious beliefs but"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "you think by this point they should have"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "probably called a priest or something"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "along those lines but they continued to"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "push forward and within about a week's"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "time as frank was moving stuff out to"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "the big work shed gardening tools and"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "miscellaneous supplies he had found"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "these large tracks that he simply"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "described were not human and were"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "exceptionally large and also were very"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "very heavily indented into the ground"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "now they were right around the shed and"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "they moved from the shed into the"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "woodline frank feeling immediately"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "uneasy about his newfound discovery"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "decided to foolishly or not foolishly"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "follow them into the tree line where"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "they abruptly stopped probably about 20"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "feet up to a small creek that's when"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "frank again felt like he was in danger"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "and that something was either luring him"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "in or had trapped him and it was in that"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "moment that frank could see that these"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "footsteps had continued going onwards"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "over a small hill past the creek"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "deciding not to follow them any further"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "he runs out of the woods and goes back"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "to the house not wanting to investigate"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "that any further frank had simply"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "assumed that if he was to call somebody"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "or to reach out to somebody to try and"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "come and investigate the property or"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "have anybody look at the things going on"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "he would either be laughed at mocked or"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "he would frighten his wife bella his"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "kids and his grandkids and he could not"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "have any of that so being an old timer"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "he wanted to stay strong and just endure"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "what was coming meanwhile all these"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "events and things kept happening until"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "right around mid-may where frank"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "describes strange noises and lights"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "begin appearing outside at night in"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "random intervals in random locations"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "in fact one evening frank was actually"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "awakened out of sleep because he heard"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "what sounded like a crash out near the"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "large meadow by his house and a large"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "flash of light that accompanied it so he"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "jumps up out of bed looks out his window"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "which gives him a perfect view of the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "meadow and there is nothing even though"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "the crashing sound and the bright"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "blinding light is what had awakened him"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "in the first place it was little things"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "like this that kept happening over and"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "over as mid-may turned to late may the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "lights began to appear more and more at"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "nighttime bringing with them this loud"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "metallic humming sound as frank"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "described although bella reported never"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "experiencing or seeing any of these"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "lights only frank and in fact by about"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "the time june had come frank was now"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "growing very very ill after going to go"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "see several doctors one of the doctors"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "actually had asked him if he had come"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "into contact with any high amount of"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "radiation to which frank looked at him"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "confused at what he was suggesting but"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "doctor was telling frank that what he"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "was experiencing fit in with radiation"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "sickness unsure of how to process what"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the doctor was even suggesting frank"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "truly began to feel hopeless because now"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "he was growing very ill he was sickly"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "and he described that this presence was"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "even stronger in the house and that he"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "believes that whatever this being was"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "was feeding off the life force of him"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "and bella during the course of all these"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "events him and bella who were high"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "school sweethearts began fighting and in"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "turn their relationship had grew very"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "volatile and violent at times something"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "that had never happened before they had"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "moved in here ever and by about early"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "june to mid-june frank who had grown"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "completely hopeless and helpless at this"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "point had decided that it was now time"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "to bring in a priest because he had no"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "other options other than to entertain"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "this notion of spirits in the house"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "which he hated doing but decided to"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "swallow his pride and do it anyway the"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "priest who had come out was scared to"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "even step foot onto the property let"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "alone inside the house and kept telling"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "frank and bella there is a great evil"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "here but i will do the best i can to rid"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "the property and so the priest did what"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "he does cleaning and cleansing the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "entire property and by the end of it and"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "had informed frank and bella that even"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "though he had cleansed the property this"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "evil was still very powerful and he did"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "not have the ability to do it frank"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "would need somebody more qualified frank"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "completely overwhelmed unsure of what to"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "do or how to handle the current"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "situation him and bella were in just"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "decided to move and by the end of june"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "they had completely moved out of that"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "house into a small apartment on the"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "other side of nashville it took quite a"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "bit of time for frank and bella to sell"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "that property but neither frank or bella"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "would ever return there because they"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "were so terrified of the things they had"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "experienced in this hendersonville"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "property and while it provided beautiful"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "scenic views lush woods property and"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "meadows the payoff was just not worth it"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "frank tells me that living at that"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "property truly changed his views on the"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "spiritual realm as he describes it and"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "even admits that when he opened that"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "basement door he believes that whatever"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "was in the house was potentially trapped"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "in the basement and had got let out"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "because before that basement door was"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "ever open while living at that property"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "everything was completely fine but after"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "about a week or so of moving in and then"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "after opening the door that's when"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "everything began to change this"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "experience has stuck with frank and"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "bella even now today in 2022 and as far"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "as frank is aware the man who had"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "purchased it from franken bella was"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "using it as a vacation home and had"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "experienced zero problems with it but"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "last he had heard the property is now"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "sitting vacant and has been for several"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "years and since frank and bella had"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "moved out of that property they have"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "experienced zero things supernatural"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "strange or mysterious could it be that"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "that property was truly holding secrets"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "to the unknown and the dead or were"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "bella and frank just experiencing group"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "hallucinations that had led them to the"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "belief that there truly was something"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "evil there i'll let you guys be the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "judge of this one this next story's"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "events also took place around"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "2004-2015 a chunk of time between sam's"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "failed marriage in florida and moving up"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "to louisville after which they had moved"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "back to florida at the time"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "sam had just got through a divorce and"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "was 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that room only afterward for"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "them to find nobody there when they"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "checked sam would go on to experience"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "bad luck in relationships and with"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "health like accidents for example"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "falling off ladders patching roofing etc"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "pet dogs disappearing and the crows"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "beginning to attack his roof above his"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "bed in the garage another miracle that"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "sam believes had happened was after a"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "bad fall he had popped his lower disc"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "and spine out of place he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "hardly walk"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "and so one day his mom calls him and"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "said she would pray for him at her bible"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "study group and that very night he felt"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "a finger go into his back and push his"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "disc back into place and he could walk"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "fine after that thanking god after all"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "of this sam had tried to bless the home"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "a couple more times again but it did not"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "seem to work he thinks due to the sin"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "going on there amongst the renters who"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "came and went he went through some more"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "spiritual warfare besides the already"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "mess he'd been involved with involving a"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "close relative with occultic things and"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "tarot cards when she got really sick and"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "was dying at the hospital unconscious"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "heart failing even having worms being"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "found in her lungs that night sam did a"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "risky prayer alone which should be done"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "by a group called an in the gap prayer"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "where you 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just got his weekly"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "payments on friday night and it was now"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "saturday morning sam had stayed inside"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "quietly waiting and had heard them walk"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "away sam waited a while longer than got"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "a bat and went to check the house and"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "they were long gone with all the"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "furnishings a different couple had tried"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "to sue sam over some nonsense at the"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "time he had met his fiance in louisville"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "in 2014 and by 2015 was planning to"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "leave sam 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"text": "move everything immediately so he packed"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "what personal things he could into his"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "truck which at the time was a white"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "freightliner condo 53 feet trailer and"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "bounced and went back to louisville"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "found a lawyer and bankruptcy the whole"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "house now of course this was just a"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "short summarized chapter in sam's life"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "he has so many more stories after and"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "before that i will gladly share with all"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "of you and if you enjoyed today's"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "There is something slaughtering people"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "deep in the Venezuelan jungles."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Mainstream science denies it, but many"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "who live there fear them. This episode"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "will take you through one of the most"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "disturbing and tragic encounters ever"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "recorded. You won't want to miss this"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "one. In 1968, a wealthy Italian nobleman"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "and explorer named Count Pino Touola sat"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "in the back of a humid smoke-filled"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "tavern in a remote outpost in Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "He was pouring over a map of the Grand"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Sabana region, which is a massive"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "sprawling area of grasslands and flat"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "topped mountains that looked like"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "islands in the sky. Now, Touola was not"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "just an average tourist. This was an"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "archaeologist, an inventor. He was a man"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "who had spent his life chasing history."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "And he was currently in South America"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "looking for evidence of a pre-Inkan"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "civilization, which was a quest that"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "required him to go to places where most"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "people simply refused. And on this"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "particular trip, he had hired a local"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "guide named Antonio to help him navigate"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "the treacherous terrain. Antonio was a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "season tracker. He knew the jungle very"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "well, probably better than anyone, and"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "he was a man who knew what plants would"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "kill you, which water was safe to drink,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "and how to avoid jaguars that prowled by"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "the treeine. However, as Touola traced"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the line on his map that cut through a"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "very specific canyon deep in the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "interior, Antonio reached out and put"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "his hand firmly on the map covering the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "canyon. And he looked at Turola and he"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "told him that they could not go there."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Tuola was used to locals being"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "superstitious about certain cursed ruins"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "or burial grounds and he just kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "rolled his eyes. He asked Antonio why"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "they couldn't go there, assuming it was"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "going to be some story about bad spirits"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "or, you know, a sacred ancestor. But"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that's not what Antonio said. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "talk about spirits. He shook his head"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "and explained it was just too dangerous."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "So Troll oppressed him and he said he"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "was paying Antonio good money. They had"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "rifles. They had supplies. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Antonio needed, they would be fine. If"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "there's any animal that he was afraid"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "of, they could handle it. But Antonio"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "wouldn't budge. He seemed genuinely"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "terrified. Turola was getting visibly"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "irritated and he threatened to fire him"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "and just hire somebody else. And so"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Antonio leaned in close and he dropped"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "his voice down. And he explained to"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Turola that it wasn't a jaguar or a"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "snake that ruled that canyon. He"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "explained that just a few years earlier,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "he had gone there with his two teenage"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "sons to look for supplies and resources."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "And while they were in there, they were"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "ambushed. And as he begins to tell to"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Rolo the story, his eyes welled up and"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "he starts getting very emotional. And he"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "explains that a group of men had come"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "out of the trees and they were huge and"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "covered in filth and mud. And he said"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "they walked on two legs like soldiers"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "and they were carrying heavy wooden"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "clubs. He claimed that these were wild"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "men that they had surrounded them. They"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "were screaming in a language he didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "understand and then they had attacked."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "He told Turola that he and his younger"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "son had barely managed to escape. But"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "his oldest son unfortunately hadn't been"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "so lucky. The men had beaten him to"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "death with their clubs right there in"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "the grass. And as Touola listened to the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "story, you know, he's clearly feeling"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "empathetic to the emotions that Antonio"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "is showing, but his mind is just racing"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "with logical conclusions because it"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "doesn't really make sense judging by the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "pain Antonio had on his face. I mean, he"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "knew he wasn't lying about the death of"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "his son and that the trauma was real,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "but he was a man of science and logic."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "And so he was like, \"You know what?"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Antonio ran into something bad.\" But"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "this had to have been maybe a wild"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "tribe, a hostile, uncontacted indigenous"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "tribe that was there protecting the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "territory. Or perhaps it was a group of"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "illegal miners or bandits who had been"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "living out the jungle for years, covered"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "in grime, who murdered the boy to keep"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "their operations secret. Now to Touola,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the clubs and the walking on two legs"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "and the screaming all pointed to one"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "thing, humans. And if they were, Tuola"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "wasn't really afraid of them because he"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "had a team. He had guns. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "he had the element of surprise. And he"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "figured, you know what? If we just keep"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "our distance, we stay alert, we can pass"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "through the canyon safely. So despite"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Antonio's pleading and begging, Trolla"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "made the call. They were going into this"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "canyon. Well, a few days later, the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "expedition arrived at the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "forbidden zone, and the landscape here"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "was stunning, but oppressive. The jungle"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "was a wall of green that just seem to"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "swallow the light, and the air was very"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "humid and thick with the smell of"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "rotting vegetation. As they hiked deeper"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "into the valley, even the atmosphere"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "shifted. Now, usually the Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "jungle is deafeningly loud. I mean you"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "have macaw screeching, insects buzzing"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "like power lines and howler monkeys"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "calling out from the canopy. It is a"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "constant wall of noise. But as they"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "entered this specific canyon, the noise"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "stopped. It was the Oz effect, that"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "sudden unnatural silence that falls over"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "a forest when a predator is nearby."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Turola noticed that Antonio was gripping"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "his machete so hard his knuckles were"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "white and the guide was constantly"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "scanning the train line, looking around."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "I mean, his eyes were just darting back"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "and forth. And every time a noise"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "happened, like a twig snapped, he would"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "just freeze looking for the men that"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "killed his son. But they never"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "encountered anything. And by midday,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "they came across something that made"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "even two rolls. Because there in the mud"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "near a creek bed, they found a set of"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "footprints. They were humanoid, five"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "toes, a heel, and arch. But the problem"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "is they were massive. I mean, easily 16"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "or 17 in long, and they were pressed"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "deep into the mud, suggesting that"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "whatever made them was incredibly heavy."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "to roll a kneel down and examine them."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "His first thought was that the mud must"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "have slipped, you know, distorting a"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "normal human footprint to make it look"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "bigger. Or perhaps the wild men wrapped"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "their feet in burlap or animal skins"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "just to move quietly, which would make"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the prince look larger and less defined."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "He stood up and told the group it was"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "just a trick of the terrain. But he"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "noticed the porters were not convinced."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "They were muttering to each other using"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "the local name for the creatures El Mono"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Grande, the big monkey. Turola just"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "dismissed it. He knew there was no large"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "apes in South America. I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "biggest primate on the continent was the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "spider monkey, which weighed maybe 20"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "lb. There were no gorillas, no chimps,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "nothing that could leave a print like"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "that. It had to be humans. And so they"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "pressed on. And as the afternoon wore"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "on, they began to find more disturbing"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "signs. They found tree branches that had"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "been snapped off about 8 feet off the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "ground. These weren't thin twigs. These"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "were thick limbs that looked like they"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "had been twisted and broken with immense"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "strength. Touola looked at the height of"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the break and thought, \"Okay, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "a very tall man could reach that. Or"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "maybe they climbed to the tree to break"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "it.\" But the way the wood was shattered"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "suggested raw brute force, not the clean"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "cut of a machete. It looked like a"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "territorial marker. Someone who was"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "telling them and others to turn back. As"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "dusk began to settle over the canyon,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the feeling of being watched became"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "almost unbearable. Touola ordered the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "team to set up camp in a clearing right"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "near the river. Tried to project"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "confidence. He had the men build a large"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "fire. Figuring that if there were"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "hostile tribesmen out there, the fire"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "would keep them at bay or at least"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "illuminate them if they tried to attack."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Antonio refused to sleep. He just sat by"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "the fire, his back against a crate,"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "staring out into the darkness. Overcome"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "by fear that at any time these things"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "were going to ambush their little camp"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "and just decimate everybody. And he told"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Rolo that this was the time they would"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "come. They move in the shadows quietly."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "They were smarter than jaguars and much"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "cruer than men. Cholo heard him out"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "though. He sat with him checking his"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "rifle and you know he was thinking man"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "maybe there is something to this. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "this is more dangerous than what I had"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "anticipated. I mean he was expecting an"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "arrow to come flying out of the dark or"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "a spear. I mean he was running through"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "all the scenarios in his head of how he"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "was going to deescalate any sort of"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "conflict with a tribal leader. And"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "that's when the sound began. Now, it"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "started as a low grumble, vibrating"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "through the air like a heavy truck"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "idling off in the distance, but then it"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "rose in pitch, escalating into this"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "deafening, chest rattling scream that"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "just echoed and reverberated off the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "canyon walls. It was a sound that no"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "human could make. It was too loud and"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "primal. In fact, it sounded like a mix"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "between a Jaguar's roar and a man"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "screaming in agony amplified 10 times"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "over. Troll jumped to his feet, aiming"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "his rifle at the treeine. And the"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "porters were scrambling now, too,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "covering their ears terrified. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Antonio just sat there, nodding as if to"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "say, \"I told you.\" The screaming"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "continued, moving around the perimeter"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "of the camp, and it sounded like there"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "was more than one of them. They were"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "circling to Rollola though he was very"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "confident and he just shouted into the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "darkness trying to assert his alpha male"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "dominance thinking this was some kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "intimidation tactic by the tribe and"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "that this was nothing more than noise"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "markers or something to scare this group"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "of people off. But deep down his logic"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "was failing. He knew acoustics. He knew"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "biology. And he knew the lung capacity"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "required to produce that volume was"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "simply beyond human capability. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "now for the first time he was scared and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "he was uncertain. And he just huddled"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "with his team by the fire listening to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "all the crashing noises in the jungles"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "around them. They could hear heavy"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "footfalls. Thump thump thump shaking the"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "ground. They heard sound of thick"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "branches being snapped like toothpicks."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Whatever was out there, it was big and"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "it was angry and it was getting closer."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "And so finally towards dawn, the noises"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "subsided and the jungle went quiet"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "again. Touola, who was exhausted at this"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "point and running on fumes and"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "adrenaline, just made the decision they"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "needed to leave as soon as the sun was"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "up. He wasn't going to risk his team for"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "some archaeological dig. But before they"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "packed up, he needed to see what had"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "been tormenting them. His curiosity"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "wouldn't let him leave without it. He"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "needed to know if it was man or beast."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "And so, as the first gray light of the"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "morning began to filter through the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "canopy, Touola grabbed his binoculars"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "and he crept towards the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "clearing. and he looked up out toward a"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "ridge line that overlooked their camp."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "It was a perfect vantage point for any"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "ambush. And as he looked out, he saw"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "them. There, standing on the ridge,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "silhouetted against the morning sky,"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "were two figures. And at first glance,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Trouilla thought, \"Okay, there they are,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "the tribesmen. They were standing"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "upright on two legs just like Antonio"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "had said and they were holding these"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "long thick pieces of wood or clubs in"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "their hands. But then Touola focused the"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "lenses and he zoomed in and he began to"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "take in more details and the hostile"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "tribe theory completely disintegrated."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "He saw for the first time that these"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "were not men. They were covered in thick"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "dark hair from head to toe. They had no"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "clothing. They had no paint. There were"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "no ornaments. Their chests were"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "bar-shaped, and they were massive. And"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "they were far wider than any human"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "being. Their arms were also"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "disproportionately long, hanging down"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "past their knees. And he watched. He was"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "completely stunned as one of these"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "things turned its head. And it didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "have a human face. From what he saw, it"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "had a flat ape-like snout, but it had"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "deep set eyes under a heavy brow ridge."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "I mean, this looked just like a spider"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "monkey that had been pumped full of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "steroids and stretched to nearly 6 feet"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "tall. The creature raised the club in"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "its hand and let out a huffing sound."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "And then, with a fluidity that was"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "terrifying to watch, it turned and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "melted back into the dense jungle,"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "followed by the second one. Trolla"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "lowered the binoculars in his hands, and"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "he's starting to shake, and he's getting"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "really scared. He walked back to the"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "camp. He told the man, \"Look, we need to"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "pack up immediately. No ifs, ands, or"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "buts.\" And then they left. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "run, but they definitely moved with a"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "speed and intensity that made it clear"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "they were fleeing. They didn't even stop"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "until they were miles away, well out of"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the canyon. So, when they finally"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "reached a safe outpost, Touola just sat"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "down with Antonio, and he didn't try to"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "explain it away anymore. He didn't talk"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "about tribes or minors. He just thanked"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Antonio deeply for saving their lives."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "But the story didn't end there. He"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "couldn't let it go. He did return to"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "civilization, but he was haunted by what"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "he had seen. And so he began digging"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "into archives looking for any record of"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "large primates in Venezuela. He talked"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "to biologists who told him it was"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "impossible, that apes didn't exist in"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "the Americas. But then Touola found"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "something in an old geological survey"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "report from 1920. It was a photograph"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "taken by a Swiss oil geologist named"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "Francois Deoy. Decades earlier, Deoy had"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "been on an expedition in a similar"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "region of the Venezuelan Colombian"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "border. His team had been attacked by"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "two large upright creatures that came"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "out of the jungle screaming and throwing"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "their own feces. Deoy's men had shot and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "killed one of the creatures in"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "self-defense, and they had propped up"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "the body up on a crate and then taken a"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "picture. The photo showed a strange"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "ape-like creature sitting on a crate. It"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "had a spider monkeykey's face, but it"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "was much larger, and notably, it had no"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "tail. Spider monkeys have long"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "prehensile tails. This thing did not."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Gola took a copy of this photo and he"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "brought it back to Antonio. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "tell Antonio what it was or where he got"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "it. He just placed the photo on the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "table in front of the old guide. Antonio"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "took one look at the grainy black and"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "white image and he froze and he started"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "getting emotional and he pointed a"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "shaking finger at the dead creature in"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "the photo and looked up at Turola with"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "wide eyes with tears nearly coming down"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "and he told Turola, \"That is him. That"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "is the mono that killed my son.\" Well,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "it would turn out that the men Antonio"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "had described, the ones with the clubs"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "and the bipedala walk, were exactly what"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "the locals had feared for centuries. A"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "creature known in the region as the Mono"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Grande or the large monkey. For hundreds"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "of years, indigenous tribes in the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Amazon and Oronokco basins have told"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "stories about these things. Though they"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "call them by different names, like the"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Di or the Salvah. And according to the"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "lore, these aren't just big monkeys."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "They are viewed almost like a separate"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "tribe of wild men. The legends describe"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "them as standing anywhere from 5 to 8t"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "tall, covered in dark hair, and notably,"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "they have no tails, which distinguishes"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "them from almost every other monkey in"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "South America. And the reason they are"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "so feared isn't just because of their"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "intimidating size. It's because of their"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "violent behavior. The local history is"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "filled with terrifying accounts of these"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "things. Not just attacking people who"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "wander into their territory, but"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "actually kidnapping women and carrying"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "them off into the jungle, never to be"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "seen again. They are said to be"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "frighteningly aggressive and intelligent"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "and capable of holding grudges. They"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "don't run away like normal animals. They"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "stand the ground. They scream. And as"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Antonio tragically discovered, they use"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "weapons. When Turola dug deeper into the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "history of that photograph he showed"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "Antonio, the one taken by Francois Deoy"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "in 1920, the story became even more"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "chilling. Deoy was a Swiss geologist"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "looking for oil near the Colombian"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Venezuelan border when two of these"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "creatures stepped out of the bush. Deoy"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "reported that the creatures, a male and"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "a female, stood upright and began"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "screaming and tearing off branches to"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "use as clubs. They even began flinging"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "their own feces at the expedition team"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "in a rage. The geologist, fearing for"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "their lives, opened fired and they"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "killed the female, but the male, despite"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "being wounded, managed to escape back"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "into the trees. So, what did they do?"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Deoy propped the dead female up on a"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "crate and took that famous photo. He"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "estimated the creature was about 5t"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "tall, but it had no tail and a"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "disturbingly humanlike chest and hands."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "Even now, the mono grande remains"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "unrecognized by mainstream science. And"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "they argue that the deoy photo is simply"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "a hoax, nothing more, or at least a"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "wellstaged picture of a spider monkey"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "with its tail hidden or cut off. And"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "their reasoning is that a large bipeedal"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "ape as described in today's video simply"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "cannot exist in South America, at least"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "without leaving behind fossils or more"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "concrete evidence. But for Pino Touola,"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "who stared through his binoculars at"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "those massive club wielding shapes on"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "the ridge, and for Antonio, who had to"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "tragically bury his own son in the grass"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "of the Grand Sabana, there was no"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "debate. They knew that the Mono Grande"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "was not a myth. It was flesh and blood,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "and it was out there ruling the canyon"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "that men were never meant to enter. And"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "because you guys made it this far, I"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "want you to all comment down below mono"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "grande. So that way I know who made it"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "to the end and who didn't. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "If you were a Pittsburgh Steelers fan in"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "the late 80s, you probably remember the"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "crowds outside Three Rivers Stadium. But"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "among the sea of black and gold, there"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "was one woman everyone knew. They called"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "her the Sparrow. She wasn't there for"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the football. She was there to warn the"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "fans about the end of the world. And in"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "1992, the stadium lights stayed on, but"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "the Sparrow was gone. You won't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "miss this one. On a gray afternoon in"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the late 1980s, the commuters of"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "downtown Pittsburgh were rushing to get"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "out of the cold and back to their"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "offices, heads down, ignoring everything"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "around them. But standing on a street"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "corner, cutting through all the noise"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "and traffic and the wind was a petite"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "woman with a voice that seemed too big"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "for her own body. She was shouting at"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the passing cars and the pedestrians,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "warning them, \"The end is nigh.\" Now, to"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "the people of Pittsburgh, she was known"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "simply as the sparrow. And unlike the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "typical image of a street preacher, you"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "know, disheveled and chaotic, maybe"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "wearing layers of dirty clothing, the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "sparrow was different. She was"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "immaculate. She wore pressed dresses."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Her hair was perfectly quif and her"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "nails were neatly manicured. She looked"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "like a librarian or a school teacher who"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "had just stepped out for a lunch break,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "except for the fact that she was"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "screaming about a nuclear armageddon"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "that was unavoidable. And she moved with"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "this strange darting energy like a bird"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "hopping from branch to branch, which is"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "how she got her nickname. I mean, she"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "would rush up to people and grab their"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "arm gently but firmly and tell them they"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "needed to repent because the fire was"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "coming. When this happens to most"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "people, they just pull away. And that's"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "exactly what they did. They were"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "unnerved by her intensity in her eyes."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "But the woman whose name was Patricia"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Copa, this wasn't a performance. It"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "wasn't a mental illness. She was on a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "mission. Now, you have to understand"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "that years earlier, Patricia had been a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "totally different person. She was a"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "straight A student, a model, a ballroom"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "dance instructor. She had a husband"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "named Bob, a nice house in the suburbs,"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "and a steady job working in finance at a"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "glass company. But then in the early"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "1980s,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "something changed. She had taken a job"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "as an elevator operator at the Art"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Institute of Pittsburgh. And one day"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "while the elevator was moving between"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "the floors, the doors open and Patricia"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "saw something there that completely"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "destroyed her reality. She saw an angel."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Now to Patricia, this was not a"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "hallucination. This was a visitation."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "And the angel instructed her that the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "world was on the brink of destruction."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "and that she, Patricia, had been chosen"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "as one of God's servants to warn"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "mankind. And just like that, the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "ballroom dancing stopped, the modeling"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "stopped, the quiet suburban life just"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "evaporated. She quit her job and"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "dedicated every waking moment to her new"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "calling. Now, her husband, Bob, watched"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "as his wife transformed into somebody he"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "did not recognize. She was a stranger."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "She would come home late, exhausted from"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "walking the streets all day. Her feet"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "were literally blistered and bleeding."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "And he would beg her to see a doctor to"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "stop this madness. But she would just"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "look at him with that same intensity in"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "her eyes and tell him he just didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "understand. She had work to do. However,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "the streets were not kind to the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "sparrow. Her warnings about the end of"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "the world made people angry. She was"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "harassed. She was spit on. She was"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "threatened. And one night, the threats"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "became physical. A group of men cornered"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "her in an alley. They knocked her to the"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "ground. They stole her engagement ring"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "and her wedding band right off her"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "finger. And so when Patricia came home"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "that night, she was bruised and"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "terrified. Something in her just"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "snapped. She explained to Bob that it"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "wasn't just a random criminals, that"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "this was the enemy. They were trying to"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "stop her. The demons were trying to stop"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "her and they were following her. And"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "from that moment on, she was always"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "looking over her shoulder because she"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "was convinced that there was this"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "malevolent demonic force that was"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "hunting her down, just waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "right moment to permanently silence her."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Well, things got worse from there when"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the police got involved. After an"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "incident where she ran into traffic to"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "warn motorists about this coming"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "apocalypse, she was arrested and"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "involuntarily committed to a psychiatric"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "hospital. Now, to the doctors, this was"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "a clear-cut case of schizophrenia and"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "delusions of grandeur. But to Patricia,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "this was exactly what she had feared."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Satan, the enemy, had locked her up."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "They were trying to medicate the truth"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "out of her. And so when she was finally"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "released about a month later, she was a"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "different person. She was quieter, much"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "more guarded and paranoid. Now she told"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "her sister Gloria that they will never"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "do that to me again. It wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "complaint, it was a vow. And so one"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "summer day in 1992, Bob Copta came home"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "from work to a completely silent house."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "This was in the middle of the afternoon."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "And usually even if Patricia wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "home, there would be signs of her"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "around. You know, a Bible left open on"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "the table, the remnants of whatever she"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "had for lunch. But the house was"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "unnervingly still. He walked through the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "rooms calling her name, but there was no"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "answer. At first, he wasn't immediately"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "panicked because Patricia often wandered"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "off to preach and sometimes staying out"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "really late. But as the sun went down"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "and the house remained dark, this just"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "knot of dread formed in Bob's stomach"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "and he just he couldn't explain it away."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "And he figured that something bad had"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "happened to her. But he didn't really"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "know where to start or where to go. But"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "he knew that he needed to wait by the"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "phone and expect her to call, expecting"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the police to call and say that they had"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "picked her up again. But the phone never"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "rang, folks. And next thing you know, it"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "had been 24 hours and it turned into 48"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "hours. And then days and days go by and"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "now it's into weeks. And Bob had not"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "heard anything from his wife. And so he"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "drove up and down the streets of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "downtown Pittsburgh, scanning the crowds"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "for that familiar bird-like walk for the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "flash of her pressed dress. And then"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "he'd often go and wait for a Steelers"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "game because he knew that she was always"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "there trying to warn people in the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "crowds as they're coming and going at"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the stadium. But after Bob himself had"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "spoke to many of the people up and down,"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "they all said the same thing. The"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "sparrow was gone. Not knowing really"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "where else to turn or who to talk to,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Bob filed a missing person report and"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "just prayed that she would be returned"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "safely. Well, police began their"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "investigation. But right away, just with"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "how things looked, the suspicion fell on"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "him. And it's really, I mean, the first"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "rule of any major disappearance, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "you look at the spouse or in this case"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "the husband and of course Bob you know"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "he felt the eyes of his neighbors on him"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the people that would whisper things"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "behind his back at the grocery store. I"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "mean they all wondered if he had just"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "finally snapped and just gotten sick and"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "tired of this new Patricia that he was"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "just so embarrassed by who she had"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "become he couldn't take it. But Bob knew"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "he was innocent and even though he"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "couldn't prove it he was determined to"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "do it. Now, interestingly, the police at"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "this point were desperate for answers."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "And so, they brought in a psychic. It"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "was a Hail Mary pass, but I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "really had nothing else to go on. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "this particular psychic walked through"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "the copa house and she touched"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Patricia's things. And then she told the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "police that she saw darkness. She told"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "them flat out that Patricia was dead."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "And specifically, she said her body was"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "near water. Not knowing really what else"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "to do, Bob and the police went"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "searching. And they searched along the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "banks of the Alagany and the Manonga"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "rivers, which are the two massive"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "waterways that cut right through"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Pittsburgh. They dragged the rivers."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "They combed the shorelines looking for"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "any trace, a piece of clothing, anything"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "of this woman. But there was nothing."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "And so months later, Bob received a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "mysterious letter and it was postmarked"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "from somewhere in the United States. But"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "oddly, there was no return address. The"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "handwriting was frantic. It was"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "scribbled and it was it was Patricia. In"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "the letter, she didn't say where she was"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "or what she was doing. She just repeated"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the same paranoid warning she had given"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "him before she left. Somebody was"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "following her. She was clearly being"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "hunted. Now, when Bob got this, he took"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the letter to the police, hoping this"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "was the big break they needed. They"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "could find her. Their lives would return"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "to normal, or at least semi-normal. But"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "the investigators, you know, they shook"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "their head. They they told them that"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "this wasn't good enough. To them, this"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "wasn't a clue. This was just proof that"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "she was clearly suffering from a severe"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "mental break, and that more than likely"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "she was homeless somewhere in another"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "state, lost in her own delusions, not"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "aware of who she was or where she was,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and they would probably never see her"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "again. Case closed. And on top of all"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "that, you know, without a return address"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "or any clear location, I mean, there was"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "really nothing they could do. And from"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "that point on, Bob was pretty much just"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "forced to live alone and just accept"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that his wife was mentally checked out"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "and she was gone somewhere. And the"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "sightings of the sparrow became nothing"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "more than urban legends at this point. I"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "mean, it got to such a point that people"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "claimed they saw her in New York and"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Chicago and California. And anytime"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "there was any sort of lead, cuz remember"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "during this time, Bob kept pursuing all"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "of this to find his wife, but everything"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "turned into a dead end. Bob was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "convinced that, you know what, the only"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "way I'm going to find her is I'm going"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "to have to spend thousands of dollars"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "and get a PI. So, that's exactly what he"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "did. Now, you have to remember that Bob"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "loved Patricia. He deeply loved this"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "woman. He was not going to remarry. He"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "refused. And he was adamant that he was"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "going to do everything he could to find"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "his woman. He even kept her clothes in"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "the closet just in case she happened to"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "come back. However, by the year 1999,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "seven years had now transpired since she"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "had walked out the door. And folks, Bob"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "had to face the cold, hard reality that"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "he was in. The psychic had been right"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "about one thing. She was gone. And so,"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "with a mournful, heavy heart, Bob"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "petitioned to have the court declare her"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "legally dead. It was a formality, you"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "know, a kind of a way to settle the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "estate and just try to move on with"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "life. But of course, doing so felt like"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "a betrayal. Now, he did have a small"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "memorial service burying an empty casket"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "in the ground, and you're just really"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "trying to make peace with the fact that"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "she really is gone, and he's never going"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "to know what happened to her. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "1700 miles away on the tropical island"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "of Puerto Rico, a woman was found"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "wandering the streets of a small town"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "called Narinhito. She was in bad shape."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Her skin was weathered and burned from"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "the sun. Her clothes were tattered and"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "torn. I mean, she was clearly"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "disoriented, but she spoke English,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "which made her stand out in the rural"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Spanish-speaking town. But for whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "reason, she wouldn't tell anyone her"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "name. Now, when the police and social"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "workers reached out and they tried to"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "help her, she just shut down. For"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "whatever reason, she seemed really"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "terrified. She was constantly looking"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "around as if she expected someone to"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "jump out and grab her. Obviously, nobody"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "did. And so, the authorities are like,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "you know, we don't know what's wrong"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "with her. They just determined that she"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "was obviously in great need of care. And"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "so she was admitted to an adult care"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "home in a nearby town called Toa Alta."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Now for the staff at the home, she was a"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "complete mystery, a Jane Doe, a ghost."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "And for the next 20 years, this woman"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "lived in the care home, a very silent,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "gentle presence in the halls. You know,"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "she was very kind to the staff and the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "other residents, and she was very sweet"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "and kind to be around. But she, boy, did"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "she guard her past like a state secret."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "She refused to say where she was from or"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "if she had any family, past or present."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "It was as if her life had begun the day"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "she was found on the street. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "is weird, isn't it? But there were"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "cracks in the wall. I mean, every now"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and then, she would slip up and say"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "something kind of strange. In fact, she"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "told one of the nurses that she had"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "arrived in Puerto Rico on a cruise ship"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "from Europe. The staff, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "smiled and nodded, assuming it was a"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "delusion brought on by her mental"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "illness. And after all, she was a"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "homeless woman found wandering the hills"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "of Puerto Rico. I mean, that's not"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "something a normal mentally healthy"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "person does. So, the idea that she had"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "been a passenger on some sort of luxury"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "European cruise seemed pretty"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "impossible. Now, at this time, nobody"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "was able to piece together who she was"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "or what her past was like, and so they"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "just accepted that she's just some lady"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "who's gone. Now, as the years went by,"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "her health unfortunately began to"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "decline. dementia started to slowly"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "creep in and they, you know, it eroded"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "all the mental barriers she had built"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "around concealing her identity and she"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "started to slip up more and more. And in"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "moments of confusion, she would mutter"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "names, Bob, Gloria. She would talk about"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "the cold, the Steelers, and sometimes"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "she would whisper about the Sparrow. In"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "2022, a social worker at the care home"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "began to pay closer attention to these"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "ramblings because she realized these"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "weren't just ramblings. She realized"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "what was happening, that this woman who"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "had now had dementia was slowly starting"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "to reveal who she once was or the life"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "she used to live. These were all clues."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Now, she kept mentioning a specific"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "town, Pittsburgh. She talked about a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "husband she had at one point named Bob"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "and and about preaching. The social"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "worker did something that nobody had"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "done in 20 years. She listened intently."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "She wrote down all these details."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Pittsburgh Bob Sparrow preacher. And"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "then with this information, she went to"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "her computer and she started"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "researching, figuring, you know what? I"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "don't know who this person is, but maybe"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "I can find something on her and maybe"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "get an idea of who she was. And so she"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "pursued this pretty seriously. She"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "contacted an agent at Interpool, which"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "is the International Police"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Organization, and laid out what she had."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "The agent ran the details through their"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "database of missing persons from the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "United States. And there folks, buried"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "in a cold case file from 92 was a report"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "from Ross Township, Pennsylvania. A"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "missing woman named Patricia Copta, a"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "street preacher, a husband named Bob."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "The Interpole agent contacted the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "township police, specifically a deputy"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "chief named Brian Colep. And as you can"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "imagine, when Cole got the call, he was"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "shocked because this, folks, had been a"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "case that had been dead for three"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "decades. The woman was legally deceased"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "for crying out loud. Her husband was an"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "old man now. He had, at least I think"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "so, at this point, moved on with his"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "life. It had been nearly 30 years, but"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "they had to be sure. So, the police"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "reached out to Patricia's sister,"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Gloria, and they asked for a DNA sample."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "They also sent Patricia's old dental"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "records down to Puerto Rico."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Unfortunately, just due to logistical"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "complications, it took 9 months for the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "labs to process everything. 9 months."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "And so, finally, fast forward to March"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "of 2023, they get the results back."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Folks, it was a match. The Jane Doe in"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the Puerto Rican nursing home was"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Patricia Copa. The sparrow had not died"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "near the water in Pittsburgh. She had"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "flown across it. When the police told"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "Bob he was 86. He just sat in his chair,"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "the phone in his hand, and he just wept."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "And he wept. He was so relieved, but"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "also heartbroken and in shock because"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "the psychic had been right about the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "water, but she had meant the ocean, not"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "the river. And Patricia had somehow made"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "it all the way to the Caribbean. And as"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "pieces of the puzzle finally came"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "together, the truth of her escape and"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "what happened and how it happened was"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "revealed. And folks, it is even more"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "incredible than anyone had guessed. That"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "story about the cruise ship from Europe"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "that the nursing home staff had"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "dismissed as delusion, it wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "delusion. It was very likely the truth."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "You see, Patricia with her manicure"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "nails and her pressed dresses had"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "realized that back in 1992, she couldn't"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "run as a homeless person. She would be"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "caught. So, she ran as a tourist. and"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "she likely used her appearance to blend"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "in, maybe even slipping onto a cruise"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "ship or a flight, posing as just another"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "traveler looking for the sun. She had"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "mentioned to Bob years ago that she"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "wanted to go to a warm place where the"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "snow couldn't touch her. He had"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "dismissed it, of course, as just a"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "daydream, but she had been planning it."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "She had fled the cold, gray streets of"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Pittsburgh. Fled the police who wanted"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "to lock her up, fled the evil, the enemy"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "she thought was hunting her and found"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "her way to paradise. But unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "once she was there, her mental illness"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "did not go away. It trapped her in a new"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "kind of prison. And she had lived there"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "for 30 years, surrounded by people, yet"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "completely alone and terrified that if"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "she spoke her name, the life she ran"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "from would come crashing back down on"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "her. Unfortunately, there was no fairy"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "tale reunion. Patricia was 83 years old,"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "suffering from very advanced dementia."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "She didn't really know who Bob was"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "anymore. She didn't want to come back to"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Pittsburgh. She just told the social"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "workers she was happy and content where"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "she was. This was her home now. Bob"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "decided not to go see her. It was too"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "painful. Too much time had passed. He"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "he'd already pretty much processed the"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "grief and everything that had happened"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "since then. And he pretty much just told"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "reporters that, you know, it's a sad"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "thing, but it's a relief. I mean, she"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "could have come home at any time, but"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "this is what she wanted. Gloria, her"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "sister, began planning a trip to Puerto"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "Rico just to hold her sister's hand one"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "last time, even if Patricia did not"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "recognize her. But the real question"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "remains, what exactly did she see or"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "experience that one day way back years"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "ago? Was it truly an angel? Or did she"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "just have undiagnosed schizophrenia and"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "happened to see something that changed"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "her life? Either way, folks, all of it"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "remains a mystery. And because you guys"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "comment down below Pittsburgh. So that"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "way I know who made it to the end and"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "who didn't. And if you guys enjoy this"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "kind of storytelling where we go over"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "this. As always, never forget, I love"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "you all. Keep an open mind, and I'll see"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "you all in the very next video."}]

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In the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "early morning hours of September 5th,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "1891, a pair of ice delivery men named"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Marshall McIntyre and Bill Gray rolled"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "into the quiet town of Crawford'sville,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Indiana. 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The strange visitor is gone."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "And while they're happy about that,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "they're still left wondering what"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "happened. Like, was this some sort of"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "bizarre shared hallucination? Well, if"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "it actually was a hallucination, it"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "didn't just affect Marshall McIntyre and"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Bill Gray. Because, as it turned out,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "they weren't the only ones to witness"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "something unusual that night. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "just a few hours earlier, shortly after"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "midnight, Reverend GW Switzer of"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Crawford'sville First Methodist Church"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "had his own encounter. Now, in some"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "accounts, this Reverend was looking out"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "his window. and others. He was getting"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "ready for bed, and he had gone out into"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "his backyard to draw water from his"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "well. He had remembered that the night"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "seemed especially dark and still as he"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "drew his pail up from underground. There"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "wasn't even any wind. But that was when"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "he noticed something strange gliding"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "through the sky. Because there, high"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "above town, coming in from the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "southwest, was something so"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "extraordinary that he immediately ran"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "back inside to wake up his wife. Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "she didn't want to come outside at"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "first, but when she did, she saw it,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "too. They stood there in their yard"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "watching as this bizarre object kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "just descended near a neighbor's house,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "that of Mrs. JM Lane. And when it did"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "this, the nearby buildings partially"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "obstructed their view. So, Reverend"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Switzer headed around to the front of"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "his house and stepped out into the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "street. And the moment he did so, the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "object rose again straight up into the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "air. By now, his wife had joined him,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "and the couple continued watching the"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "strange thing as it circled above town."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Now, as remarkable as all of this was,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "it was getting late. And even though it"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "was still in view, after a while, the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "two of them finally just decided to head"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "back inside and go to bed. What exactly"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "did these witnesses see that night?"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Well, the descriptions from Marshall,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Bill, the Reverend, and his wife were"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "all practically identical. They all"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "describe the same thing, the same size,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "pure white in color with no definitive"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "shape. Some of the more descriptive"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "accounts say that it resembled a great"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "white shroud, and it moved by writhing"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "and twisting across the sky, bringing to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "mind a flag flapping in the wind. Along"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the sides of the object were what"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "appeared to be almost like propelling"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "fins with several pairs of wings along"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "its sides. Now, I know what you're"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "thinking. It could still be a cloud,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "right? I mean, maybe just a strange"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "cloud. Well, that would seem plausible"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "except for one finer detail. Some of the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "descriptions said that while they"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "couldn't make out any head on this"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "thing, they did clearly see one gigantic"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "flaming eyeball. The eye darted around"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "as it flew overhead like it was scouring"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the ground in search of something. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "I don't know about you, but I've never"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "seen the eye of Sauron in a cloud. And"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "other than during a thunderstorm, I'd"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "never heard a cloud that makes noise."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "But a few of the witnesses that night"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "said that they could hear this thing"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "breathing. And they said that whenever"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "it got close to the ground, they could"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "hear this strange sort of sad wheezing"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "noise. The next day, Crawford'sville was"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "a buzz with rumors about the strange"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "apparition seen last night. And as more"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "people came forward with sightings, the"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "descriptions all became increasingly"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "varied and elaborate. And some even said"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "they couldn't just hear it breathing,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "they could feel it, too. There's this"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "hot breath that just warmed them as it"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "swooped towards the ground. Others"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "claimed that the shape and the way it"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "moved reminded them of the way an eel"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "swims through the water. There were some"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "reports of three sets of jaws, an"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "eyeball, and a mouth, and even a series"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "of feathery appendages on the entity,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "but like most sightings of this nature,"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "it all just kind of blends together."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Later that day, the Crawford'sville"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Journal reported the story, which was"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "soon picked up by bigger newspapers like"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the Indianapolis Journal and the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Brooklyn Eagle. And before long, papers"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "across the country were running"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "sensational accounts of the mysterious"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "flying creature that had visited the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "small Indiana town. The phenomenon soon"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "earned the nickname the spook among"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "local residents. The Crawford'sville"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "postmaster found himself inundated with"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "letters from all over the country asking"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "for more info about the monster. Some"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "were just curious, others were kooky,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "and some correspondents believed that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "the sighting was a warning, a sign in"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the sky that signaled the eminent"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "arrival of Judgement Day. Well, another"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "woman from St. Louis wrote in asking if"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "the creature could be seen during"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "daylight, apparently hoping to make a"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "special trip to see it for herself. and"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "another man confidently proclaimed that"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "what people had seen was a spirit or in"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "other words a gigantic ghost flying over"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "town. Obviously not everybody was"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "convinced because in the coming days the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "town became divided between believers"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "and skeptics and one expert a professor"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Robert Barton suggested that the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "witnesses must have been suffering from"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "a mass delusion or maybe they'd been"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "drinking. As you imagine, this"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "accusation didn't really sit well. And"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that's because Reverend Switzer was a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "respected member of the community, and"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "he was very offended by this because he"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "believed that this was just character"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "defamation. And as it turns out, he was"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "vindicated the following night because"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "as sun set over Crawford'sville,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "everybody turned their eyes to the sky"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "to see if the spook would put in another"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "appearance. And sure enough, folks, it"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "did. According to Vincent Gatis, who is"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "an Indiana reporter who later wrote"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "about the incidents over"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Crawford'sville, this was not an"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "isolated sighting because so much hype"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "had been generated. Hundreds of people"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "saw it that night. And this sighting"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "wasn't brief either. For around two full"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "hours, this object reportedly hovered"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "over the town's business district,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "giving tons of citizens an ample"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "opportunity to watch. and some even"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "reported close encounters with the spook"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "swooping low enough to feel that hot"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "breath as it passed overhead. If the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "first set of sightings had the town"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "excited, this next one turned"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Crawford'sville into a madhouse. By the"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "time the third night rolled around,"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "anticipation had built to a fever pitch."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Residents gathered outside waiting for"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "another appearance of this mysterious"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "visitor. But for whatever reason, the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "phenomenon did not reappear. Everyone in"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Crawford'sville wondered what they had"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "seen, why it had vanished, and when they"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "would see it again. Now, around this"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "time, a pair of men who lived in the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "area, John Hornbeck and Abe Hearnley,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "stepped forward with a simple"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "explanation. While everyone else had"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "stood outside on the streets, they"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "decided to investigate. Instead of just"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "staying in one place, they actually had"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "the idea to follow it all around the"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "community during its second appearance."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "And as they followed the so-called spook"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "to the edge of town, they got a better"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "look. And they came to a surprising"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "conclusion. Folks, what people were"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "saying was not a single monster."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Instead, it was nothing more than a"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "flock of hundreds of birds. Kill deer"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "specifically, all flying together. And"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "as John and Abe pointed out, killed deer"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "are dark on top, but they have these"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "distinctive white feathers underneath"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "their bodies. Feathers that are easily"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "visible from below when they fly"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "together at night. Specimens also have"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "very distinctive red or auburn markings"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "on the back of their tails, which might"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "account for the flaming eye or red eyes"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that many witnesses reported. And if"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "that wasn't enough, John and Abe also"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "pointed out that the bird's distinctive"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "cries seemed to perfectly match the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "sounds that had been described coming"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "from the monster. But why would these"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "birds suddenly be flying in such a"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "strange formation at night over town?"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "While killed deer can move around at"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "night, they prefer to do their business"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "during the day. So what gives? Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "they theorized that Crawford'sville had"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "just recently installed electric lights"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "all around town, and they'd been put up"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "less than a week before the very first"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "sighting. They said that these new"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "lights had most likely confused the"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "birds, causing them to not only fly"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "around at night, but to make them gather"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "together into a tight, disoriented mass"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "over town. The low visibility due to the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "damp night air contributed to the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "misidentification."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Simply making the flock look like one"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "big object to people below. For them,"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "this was a simple checkmate. Problem"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "solved. We figured it out. When this"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "explanation was proposed, many were"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "disappointed and some were angry. They"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "were sure that they had seen something"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "truly extraordinary. I mean, to suggest"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "that they just misidentified a flock of"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "birds was not only preposterous, it was"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "insulting. And ultimately, there was so"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "much push back because there were just"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "too many holes in Jon and Abee's"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "explanation. I mean, come on. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "going to mistake a hundred reddish marks"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "on the backs of these birds for one"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "gigantic red eye. I mean, after all, the"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "entire theory hung on the idea that only"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "the bottom of the birds could be seen."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "And the reddish spots are on the top of"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Kild Deer. And then there's also the"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "fact that this wasn't typical killed"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "deer behavior. I mean, even if you took"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "the new electric lights into account,"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "killed deer flocks rarely exceed 100."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "And most of the time you get a group of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "20 to 50 tops, especially in late summer"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "when this happened. And even when killed"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "deer do fly together in significant"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "amounts, they usually don't stay close"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "together, at least not enough to mistake"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "it for one big eye. So, there has to be"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "a rational explanation, right? People"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "began offering other excuses with very"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "little evidence, suggesting maybe some"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "kids in the area had sent up balloons"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "with cats attached to them as a prank."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "Ridiculous as it is, this was quickly"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "dismissed as unlikely. But without any"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "further sightings, it just seemed like"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "we would never get to the bottom of the"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Crawford'sville mystery. However, in"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "comes Charles Fort. Now, Ford is widely"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "regarded as one of the founding fathers"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "of modern paranormal studies, and he"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "spent much of his adult life compiling"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "strange stories from all around the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "globe, never settling on a single answer"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "for anything, but instead just dedicated"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "to preserving these accounts for future"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "generations. Now, between 1920 and 1930,"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "Ford came across the account of the 1891"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "events in an old copy of the Brooklyn"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "Eagle. Fascinated by the story, but of"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "course a little skeptical, he decided to"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "follow up himself and he managed to"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "track down Reverend Switzer by then was"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "living in Michigan. Fort wrote to"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Switzer right away asking for details"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "about his experience. The reverend"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "replied and promised to provide Fort"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "with a full account, but he never"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "followed through. When all was said and"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "done, Fort could only say that someone"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "by that name had existed, lived in"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Crawford'sville, Indiana at the time,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "and claimed to see something strange."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "But beyond that, everything else"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "remained a mystery. Now, most will tell"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "you that the Crawford'sville monster"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "only appeared on those two nights. But"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "it turns out there was another sighting"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "eerily similar nearly 70 years later"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "over the same town. This time there was"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "a follow-up investigation."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "On a winter evening in 1957, a married"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "couple was walking back to their home in"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Crawford'sville. And it was the kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "night that felt completely ordinary."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Cold air, their breath visible in front"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "of them. They were almost home. And as"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "they started up to the front path of"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "their house, one of them noticed"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "something. At first, it was just a"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "sound. This kind of grinding noise, like"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "a dull roar. It's hard to place exactly"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "what it is or where it originates, but"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "it seems to come from everywhere at"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "once. The husband figures it's just one"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "of the neighbors because there's always"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "sounds of machinery coming from"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "somewhere in town, you know, trucks,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "equipment, that sort of thing. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "they see this light that's real low in"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "the sky off to the northeast. And"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "there's this glow kind of just hovering"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "there, but it's really bright because"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "even though they can't see the source,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "it almost blinds them. And now remember,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "this is in the middle of a suburban"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "neighborhood. There are plenty of lights"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "everywhere. The filling station throws"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "off a good amount of glow, and there are"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "street lights and Porsche lights all"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "around. But whatever this light is is"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "brighter than all of that put together,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "and it's lower than it should be to an"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "airplane. So low that it doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "sense. The couple, who are clearly"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "confused, think it's probably headlights"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "reflecting off of something. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "that would explain not only the light"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "itself, but the dole roar, too. So, they"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "slow down a little and they keep"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "watching. And that's when they realize"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "that the light is moving. It isn't just"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "sitting there, but it's coming toward"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "them. And something about the way it"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "moves just doesn't seem like it's just"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "headlights on a car, that it's something"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "else. Now, the light slowly starts"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "moving between the nearby buildings,"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "heading south. And the entire time, the"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "grinding, roaring sound is getting"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "louder. It's clearly connected to"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "whatever this thing is. Now, by this"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "point, they stopped walking. Although"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "they haven't spoken to each other, they"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "realize that they're both having the"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "same thought. What is this thing? And"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "now, even though they know they should"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "go inside, they don't because they're"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "too scared. And the source of the noise"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "and the light gets closer. And finally,"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "it comes into full view. And they can"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "make out its shape at last. And they"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "could see that there's structure to it."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "And it's long and solid, shaped almost"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "like a cigar. But it's clearly not an"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "airplane. And it's continuing to come"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "toward them, just gliding about 50 feet"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "above the ground. They notice something"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "else about the structure of the craft."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "It's not solid metal all the way across."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "They could see that it's dotted along"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "the sides that look almost like windows"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "or the port holes you'd see on a"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "submarine. And then they spot another"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "detail. The inside of whatever this is"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "is all lit up and it's glowing with this"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "orange red light from somewhere inside."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "And through those windows, they could"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "see heads heads on necks. Now, normally"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "this would be reassuring, right? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "you might even wave at the pilot if it's"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "a blimp or something. But the weirdest"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "thing that the couple notices about"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "these things inside the craft, they"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "don't look human at all. They just look"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "like these two-dimensional silhouettes"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "cut out of black paper. And the necks"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "are wrong. They're thin and too long."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "And it's like the way a kid would draw a"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "stick figure. And there are no hints of"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "any other features. But they could tell"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "that these people or things are looking"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "straight out the windows at them. And"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "all of a sudden, in the blink of an eye,"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "it's gone. It just like evaporates out"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "of nothing. Very shaken by what they"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "just experienced, they realized the only"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "thing they could do from this point is"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "just to go inside and that's all they"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "could do. However, when they went inside"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "and looked at the clock, there was"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "something really wrong because the"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "sighting should have only lasted a"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "couple of minutes, but the clock clearly"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "showed that nearly 2 hours had passed. I"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "mean, that's impossible. And at the same"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "time, they didn't remember anything"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "about what had happened in the"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "intervening time. And somehow, they have"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "a gap in their memory. Nearly 2 hours of"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "their lives gone. When UFO investigators"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Roger Lambertson, Kale Learner, and"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "Francis Ridge followed up on the"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "couple's story years later, their"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "account never wavered. And by all"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "appearances, these two experienced"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "something unusual that night in 1957,"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "something they'd never be able to"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "explain and something that had managed"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "to steal away 2 hours of their lives."}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Now, there are still other weird things"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "in Crawford'sville that has happened."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "And even today, when people talk about"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "strange things in Crawford'sville, most"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "people focus solely on the events of"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "September of 1891. But think about what"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "this couple described. Something in the"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "sky with reddish circles making a weird"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "grinding noise. I mean, it sounds an"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "awful lot like the spook, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "With its red eye flying over town,"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "making a strange hissing noise. It all"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "seems to offer an important clue that"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "maybe the Crawford'sville monster wasn't"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "a monster. Maybe it was something more"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "technological. The original"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Crawford'sville monster story"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "contributed significantly to alternative"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "theories of UFOs. While most"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "eupfologists think that these objects in"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "the sky represent physical"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "extraterrestrial spacecraft visiting"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "Earth from other planets, there's a"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "small subset of researchers that think"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "that we might be dealing with something"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "stranger. That these UFOs are airborne"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "organisms. Basically, giant jellyfish in"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "the sky. This concept that there might"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "be living creatures capable of surviving"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "in Earth's atmosphere or even in the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "vacuum of space was a pretty popular"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "theory in the early days of UFO"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "research. And the Crawford'sville case"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "was often cited as potential evidence."}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "Now, over time, the original skeptical"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "explanation for the Crawford'sville"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "monster has been largely overlooked, and"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "for good reason. I mean, it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "believe that an entire town mistook a"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "flock of disoriented birds. But even"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "still, most rational observers still"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "accept the killed deer explanation."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Unfortunately, we'll never really know"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "what happened in any of these sightings."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "And this is because both the original"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "visit from the monster and the UFO"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "account from 1957 defy all easy"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "explanations. Unfortunately, it all"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "remains a mystery. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "There is something killing people all"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "around Venezuela, and it's not the local"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "government. I'm going to tell you three"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "true cases that prove this country is a"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "hotbed for high stranges. You won't want"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "to miss this one. On the afternoon of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "April 10th, 1954, a hunter named Emolino"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Martinez was walking through the dense"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "foothills near Karaca, Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Emolino had spent the entire day"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "stalking game in the forest. And while"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "he hadn't had much luck, he was feeling"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "exhausted. He had his rifle slung over"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "his shoulder. And frankly, he felt like"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "the apex predator out there. And as the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "sun began to set, Emolino decided to"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "call it a day. So he turned around and"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "began to hike back where he had parked"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "his car. And as he walked, he was"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "already thinking about dinner and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "getting off his feet. He wasn't really"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "scanning for danger because in his mind"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "there wasn't any. I mean, he was already"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "very familiar with the area and the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "woods he was in. But just as he was"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "nearing the road, he heard this low"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "growl sound coming from a patch of thick"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "underbrush right next to the trail. And"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "so he stopped and looked over, but he"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "didn't unsing his rifle. He didn't even"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "panic. He just felt annoyed because in"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "this part of Venezuela, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "uncommon to run into like wild monkeys."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "And judging by the crashing sound in the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "bushes, he just figured he had stumbled"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "onto a couple of territorial monkeys"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "that were making a fuss. So, he did what"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "he always did when pests got in his way."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "He shouted at the bushes and waved his"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "arms, basically telling them to get out."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "He expected to hear them scampering off"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "into the trees, ending the encounter."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "But they did not run and instead the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "rustling stopped and two figures stepped"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "out of the brush and onto the path,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "blocking his way to the car. He's really"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "confused by what's happening and he"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "squinted and he could see that these"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "weren't monkeys. Whoever they were, they"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "were small, maybe 3 feet tall, and"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "covered in thick, dark matted hair. And"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "everything in his brain is just trying"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "to make sense of what he was looking at"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "because they were clearly standing on"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "two legs, but they were short and squat"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "and had this bizarre, weird, rigid"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "posture. And so he stared at them. And"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "now he's trying to rationalize and"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "categorize what he's looking at. And"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "he's like, \"Okay, well, they are"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "monkeys, but they look sickly. You know,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "maybe they're rabbit, or maybe they were"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "a species he had never seen before. But"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "he wasn't scared. I mean, he was a grown"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "man with a gun facing off against two"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "3-ft tall animals. He figured if"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "anything, he would just, you know, kick"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "them out of the way and be done with it."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "One of these things let out another low"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "growl and then without any warning, it"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "lunged at him. Well, Emolino braced"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "himself, expecting the impact of a small"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "lightweight animal, and he prepared to"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "just shove it aside. But the second one"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "made contact with him, and his entire"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "reality shattered in that very moment"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "because this thing did not feel like an"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "animal. It didn't feel like flesh and"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "bone. When it grabbed onto him, he felt"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "a grip that was so powerful. It almost"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "felt mechanical, like it was vice, like"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "iron strength, just completely"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "impossible for something of that size."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "And before he could process what was"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "happening, this monkey lifted him off of"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "his feet and slammed him into the dirt"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "with the ease of a man tossing a ragd"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "doll. Bam! He hits the ground hard. The"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "wind knocked out of him. And instantly,"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "this thing was on top of him. And it"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "wasn't just biting or scratching like a"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "wild animal. It was holding him down"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "with the strength that terrified him,"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "you know? So, he's struggling. He's"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "trying to push away with everything he"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "has, but he can't move off of this"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "thing. It's like he was trying to push a"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "boulder that had fallen onto his chest."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "He realized this was not a monkey. This"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "was not some sickly animal. He was"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "clearly fighting something he did not"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "understand. something that possessed a"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "physical power that defied physics. As"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "it clawed at him, his hand scrabbled in"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "the dirt until his fingers closed around"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "a jagged rock. And running on nothing"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "but pure adrenaline, he swung the rock"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "as hard as he could and smashed it into"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "the thing's head. And the blow connected"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "with a sickening thud. But it didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "die. It was just stunn"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "loosened for a split second. And he"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "didn't even wait to see if it was okay."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "He quickly took that second with"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "everything he had and he scrambled out"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "from under it. Got to his feet and he"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "sprinted for his car. He didn't even"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "look back once. He didn't try to use his"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "rifle. He ran. And the entire time he"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "could hear them behind him. And they"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "weren't just hooting or making noises."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "They were making this screaming sound"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "that was clearly rage. And once he got"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "to his car, he ripped the door open. He"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "threw himself in. He locked it just as"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "these things slammed against the vehicle"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "and they didn't scratch at the paint."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "They were banging on the glass trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "open the door handle trying to get to"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "him. But in a matter of a second or two"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "before they had the chance to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "break the glass with their strength or"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "rip the door off, he jammed his keys in"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "the ignition, fired up the engine, and"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "he peeled out of there, leaving these"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "two hairy figures just screaming in the"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "dust behind him. So when he finally made"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "it back to civilization and told his"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "story, people wanted to write it off as"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "this dude is either nuts or this was"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "simply nothing more than a misidentified"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "animal attack. But the thing was his"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "encounter wasn't isolated because all"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "throughout 1954, all across Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "people began reporting encounters with"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "these exact same hairy dwarflike"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "entities that seem to possess"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "supernatural strength. And to this day,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "nobody knows what they were or where"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "they came from. Months later, on the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "night of November 28th, a truck driver"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "named Gustavo Gonzalez and his assistant"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Jose Pon were driving down a dark,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "winding road on the outskirts of Petare,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Venezuela. It was late and they had been"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "working all day and they were exhausted."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "All they wanted to do was get their"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "delivery done, get home, and go to bed."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Gustavo was behind the wheel. He was"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "holding on tight, taking these tight"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "turns. He was trying to stay awake and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "he's kind of, you know, drifting off"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "because he's so tired, but he's really"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "trying to focus on the road. And"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "suddenly he rounded a corner and he had"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "a slam on his brakes because for"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "whatever reason in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "road blocking both lanes was this large"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "dark shape. And Gustavo's looking and"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "even though he brought the truck to a"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "halt just a few feet from this"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "obstruction, he doesn't really"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "understand who or why or what is in the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "road. He's pretty amped up though from"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "this near collision cuz he's thinking,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "\"Dude, if this is like a large monkey or"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "a person, I almost just hit them.\" And"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "so he's peering through the windshield."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "He's trying to figure out what he was"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "looking at, but it's so dark out there."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "and his headlights were dim. So all he"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "could really make out was this large"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "roundish silhouette. And so he figured,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "\"Ah, I know. This had to have been"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "another truck that's broken down. It"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "just didn't have its lights on or, you"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "know, maybe a massive boulder had rolled"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "down from the hillside.\" Either way"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "though, Gustavo was furious. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "tired. He was hungry. And now the road"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "was blocked. This was something he had"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "to deal with. And so pissed, he turned"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "to Jose and he told him, \"You know what?"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Just stay in the truck. I'm going to go"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "deal with this.\" So he's going to go out"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "there and see if he could get whoever"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "was blocking the road to move or at"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "least figure out if they could squeeze"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "past. So he grabbed a flashlight, he"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "kicked open the door, and he marched out"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "into the road. And as he stomped toward"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "this dark mass, he was ready to give it"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "what for and start yelling. But as he"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "got closer, he began noticing movement"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "off to the side of the road, right near"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "the bushes. And so he shined his light"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "over there. And what he saw was a small"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "figure standing in the shadows. Now"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "based on height, he assumed it was a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "child. Maybe a local kid playing a prank"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "or, you know, perhaps a stowaway who had"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "fallen off the back of a vehicle. Or"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "given the area, maybe it was just a"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "large monkey. Gustavo, who was a big"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "guy, you know, strong. He wasn't afraid"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "of a kid. He was just annoyed. And so,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "he yelled at the figure to get out of"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "the road, but it didn't move. It didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "respond at all. It just stood there with"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "its back to him. So, now he's getting"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "really angry. He's lost his patience. He"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "decided he wasn't going to waste time"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "arguing with a toddler or shoeing away a"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "monkey. He just marched right up to the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "figure, intending to just grab it by the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "scruff of the neck and physically move"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "it out of the way so he could get back"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "to his truck. He reached out, grabbed"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the figure by the shoulders, and"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "immediately he realized something was"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "really wrong. you know, he expected to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "feel, you know, the weight of a 50 lb"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "kid or soft skin or maybe a cotton"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "shirt, but what he felt was incredibly"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "light yet stiff and it was like rough"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "and bristly like like a wire brush. In"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that split second, his brain went into"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "rationalization mode, and he thought,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "you know, this kid is wearing some kind"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "of dirty coarse coat, or maybe it's a"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "wild animal with really matted fur."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Before his mind could even go further"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "and trying to problem solve, he tried to"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "lift the figure to toss it aside, but it"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "didn't even budge. It was like trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "lift a statue bolted to the ground. And"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "then the figure spun around and he felt"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "a shove against his chest. Now to him it"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "felt like he had just been hit by a"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "speeding car. This child pushed him with"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "such force that Gustava was launched"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "backward through the air, flew about 15"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "ft, and landed hard on his back in the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "dirt. He quickly scrambled to his feet,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "gasping for air. He's confused. He's now"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "freaking out. And he told himself, you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "know, he must have slipped. He must have"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "lost his footing. This can't be"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "possible. There is no way a 3-ft tall"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "child could have thrown a grown man 15"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "ft up. And now he's no longer angry."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "He's scared. He is in complete survival"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "mode. So he reached into his belt. He"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "pulled out a knife that he had carried"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "for protection. And he looked up and he"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "saw the small figure coming toward him."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "But he didn't wait. He lunged forward"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "and stabbed the figure as hard as he"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "could, aiming right for the shoulder."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "And you know, he expected the knife to"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "sink into skin because that's what he"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "assumed this was. There should have been"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "blood. There should have been a scream,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "something, right? But instead, the blade"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "connected with the figure's shoulder,"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "and there was a loud clink, and the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "knife stopped. It felt like he had tried"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "to stab a brick wall, and the impact was"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "so hard that it jarred Gustavo's arm all"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "the way to his shoulder, you know. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "he stumbled back and he's looking at his"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "knife and then at the figure, and at"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "this point, his brain is just"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "He's frantically searching for some"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "logical explanation. This doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "any sense. Maybe this kid is wearing"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "some kind of metal armor under his coat."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "You know, he refused to believe that he"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "had struck skin. But if that was skin,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "then this wasn't a human. And that is"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "when the dark shape blocking the road"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "suddenly lit up. Lights flared on from"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "the obstruction, flooding the area with"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "this blinding glow. And for the first"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "time, Gustavo could clearly see what was"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "in front of him. That broken down truck"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "wasn't a truck. It was this, in his"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "words, a massive hovering metallic"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "sphere floating just a few feet off the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "asphalt. And the kid he had been"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "fighting obviously wasn't a child."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Standing in the light was a three-foot"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "tall, stocky humanoid creature covered"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "entirely in thick, stiff, dark hair. It"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "was wearing nothing but a loin cloth."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Yes, a loin cloth. And its eyes were"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "glowing a piercing red. Gustava was"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "frozen. Suddenly, two more of these"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "things dropped down from the hovering"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "sphere, and they moved with incredible"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "speed. He turned to run, but a beam of"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "intense light shot out from the spear"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "and hit him. Instantly, he was blinded."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "He fell to his knees, covering his eyes."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "He's screaming for Jose. Now, at this"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "time, Jose, who had been watching the"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "entire thing unfold in front of him from"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "the cab of the truck, was so terrified"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "he wouldn't get out. But in this moment,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "he managed to stumble out and grab"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Gustavo and yank him back into the cab."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "And the creatures, whatever they are or"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "were, seemingly done with this"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "altercation, just turned and jumped back"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "into the sphere with agility that"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "wouldn't have been possible with any"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "animal. The sphere then shot up into the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "sky,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "completely vanished, gone. Gustavo and"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Jose were obviously terrified. They were"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "confused. They didn't know what to do"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "other than to drive straight to the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "police station. And you know when they"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "stumbled in, they're babbling about"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "hairy dwarves with steel skin and"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "hovering spheres. Well, what would you"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "do? The police were like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "all right, stop it. You guys are clearly"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "drunk.\" They were ridiculed. They were"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "told to go home, sleep it off. And"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "Gustavo was humiliated. and everybody he"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "told his family, his friends, nobody"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "believed him until on December 10th,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "about 2 weeks after Gustavo's encounter,"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "two hunters named Lorenzo Flores and"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Jesus Gomez were out in the woods near a"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "town called Kurora. They were very"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "experienced. They had shotguns and they"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "were looking for game. And at one point,"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "they saw a strange light in the woods"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "and they thought it might be a fire or"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "poachers. And so they decided to"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "approach it. And when they did, they"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "came into a clearing and saw a similar"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "object, a metallic craft hovering off"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the ground. And walking around it were"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "four short hairy figures. Feeling safe"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "because they were armed, yelled at these"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "animals or whatever they were. And these"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "[music] things turned and charged at the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "two men. Now, both of them, obviously"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "terrified by the situation, raised their"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "shotgun. But because they didn't know"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "what these animals or people or things"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "were, they weren't about to just blast"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "away. So they just wanted them to stop."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "So as they approached, Lorenzo swung the"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "stock of a shotgun at one of these"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "things, trying to, you know, club it"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "away. When the wooden stock of the heavy"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "gun hit the thing, Lorenzo expected to"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "knock it down. I mean, it's what, 3 to 4"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "feet tall. This should be an easy, you"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "know, but instead the gun snapped in"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "half. In fact, it shattered upon impact"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "with this thing's body as if he had"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "struck a solid iron anvil. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "eventually, these things retreated to"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "their craft and flew away, leaving both"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "the hunters bruised and terrified. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "as to what happened over the course of"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "the entire encounter, why weren't they"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "killed? Why did these things retreat? We"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "don't know. But when they told their"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "story, it confirmed one detail that"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "everybody had mocked Gustavo for."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "Gustavo hadn't hit a belt buckle. He"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "hadn't hit armor. That these things,"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "whatever they were, appeared"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "indestructible. Even now, the strange"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "hairy dwarves that were cited all"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "throughout 1954 in Venezuela stand as"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "one of the most frightening mysteries of"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the country. I mean, go look it up. Go"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Google it. What's even more terrifying"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "is how many people they murdered and the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "government just didn't report it."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "On a hot, humid night in the late 1980s,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "a veteran taxi driver named Miguel was"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "cruising down the Caracus Laguara"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Highway in Venezuela. Now, Miguel knew"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "this road better than a lot of other"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "people because he drove it every single"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "day, fing passengers from the capital"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "city of Caracus down to the airport on"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "the coast. I mean, he was very familiar"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "with the highway and just how dangerous"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "it was. I mean, look at the train. It"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "was steep. It was winding. It was always"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "packed with speeding cars. He was also"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "extremely confident. He knew he was a"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "good driver. and he had a heavy old"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "Chevy Malibu that hugged the road. And"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "frankly, he'd seen it all, or at least"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "he thought he had. As Miguel entered one"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "of the long tunnels that cut through the"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "mountainside, he noticed the brake"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "lights of the car in front of him flare"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "red. And so, you know, he tapped on his"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "own brakes, just a gentle adjustment to"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "slow down. But the second his foot"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "touched the pedal, his heavy Chevy"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Malibu didn't slow down. It sped up. and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "it felt like the car had suddenly been"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "lifted off the pavement and placed onto"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "a sheet of ice. His steering wheel went"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "limp and before Miguel could even think"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "of what was happening, his car began to"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "spin and he did a full 360 rotation in"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "the middle of the tunnel, tires"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "screaming, watching the concrete walls"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "blur past his window until miraculously"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "the car just slammed to a halt inches"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "from the guardrail facing the wrong way."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "you. He sat there for a moment"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "hyperventilating. He's clutching the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "wheel and he's just waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "crash of oncoming traffic, but it didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "come. And in fact, the tunnel was"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "momentarily empty. And so, shaking, he"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "opened his door, stepped out to see what"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "he had hit because he assumed, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "maybe a truck had spilled some diesel"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "fuel or maybe there was water on the"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "road. But when he looked down at the"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "asphalt under the orange tunnel lights,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "he didn't see water. He saw a thick jet"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "black sheen covering the entire lane."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "And then he looked up further and he saw"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "something that really spooked him. About"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "a 100 yards away, parked on the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "shoulder, was a nondescript truck. And"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "standing around it were these shadowy"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "figures. You know, they weren't rushing"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "to help him. They were just standing"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "there watching him. And in that moment,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "he realized this wasn't an accident."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "This was a trap. And so he scrambled"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "back into his car. He whipped it around"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "and he flirted it out of the tunnel"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "before those men could get to him. And"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "when he got back to the taxi stand in"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Caracus that night, he explained to the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "other drivers what he had seen. And he"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "told them that gangs, you know, were"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "deliberately greasing the highway to"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "cause crashes so they could rob victims."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Of course, they nodded. They agreed. And"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "they said they would look out for it."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Then they told him that they had heard"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "the rumors, too. And there was even a"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "name for it. They called it the black"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "hand. And for the next few [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "years, this was the accepted reality for"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Miguel and the people of Caracus. They"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "truly believed that they were all being"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "hunted by human predators. But they were"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "wrong. The thing on the road wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "crime. It wasn't a monster. By 1991, the"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "situation on the highway had gone from a"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "nuisance to a national crisis. That"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "black patch Miguel had seen in the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "tunnel hadn't washed away. It hadn't"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "grown like in some sci-fi horror movie"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "from the 80s. It now covered nearly 8"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "miles of the most important highway in"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "the country. And it was deadly. Cars"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "weren't just spinning out. They were"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "careening off cliffs. And the death toll"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "was climbing so fast that the local"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "newspapers started calling the highway"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "the guillotine. The public at the time"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "was furious. And the mayor of Caracus"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "even went on the radio and he publicly"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "blamed his political opponents, claiming"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "that they were hiring homeless to go out"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "at night and dump oil on the roads to"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "make the government look bad. For"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "Miguel, this just confirmed what he had"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "already suspected. He hated the people"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "doing this. He wanted them to be caught."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "But then came a scorching hot afternoon"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "in 1992. Now, at this point, Miguel was"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "stuck in a massive traffic jam up on an"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "uphill intersection of the highway. The"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "heat was over 90°. It was unbearable. It"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "was humid, just miserable. And traffic"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "had not moved in 20 minutes. So, Miguel,"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "who's incredibly frustrated and"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "sweating, decided just to get out of his"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "car, stretch his legs, and see what was"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "the holdup. He walked up the shoulder,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "weaving past the other cars, idling"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "until he reached the front of the line."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "And there it was, a massive patch"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "blocking the lanes. But this time, it"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "was broad daylight. And he got a good"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "look at the oil he had been terrified of"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "for years. And the more he stared at it,"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "he realized something about it was"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "really off. Because if this was just"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "motor oil or diesel fuel poured by a"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "gang, it should be pooling in the dips"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "of the road. It should smell like gas."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "But when he got closer, the smell did"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "hit him. And folks, it didn't smell like"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "a car. It smelt like sulfur, like"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "rotting eggs and hot tar. And as he took"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "a closer look and he put the toe of his"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "boot into this black substance, he"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "expected it to splash. But it didn't. It"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "stuck. And when he tried to pull his"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "foot back, the black goose stretched out"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "in long, thick strands like chewing gum."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "For whatever [clears throat] reason, I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "in my head, I'm picturing like a scene"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "out of like a Dr. Seuss book or"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "something cuz it just sounds so"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "ridiculous, you know? Miguel stood there"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "staring at this stringy gummy black web"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "attached to his foot and he realized no"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "oil on Earth behaved this way. And then"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "he saw the maintenance crew just a few"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "yards away. A government work crew was"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "attacking the stain with highowered"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "pressure washers. And he watched in awe"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "as they just blasted a section of the"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "road until the black slime was gone and"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "the gray asphalt was perfectly clean."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "They moved on to the next spot. But he"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "kept watching the spot they had just"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "cleaned. And as he did, even under the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "intense heat of the tropical sun, the"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "clean gray asphalt began to change. Tiny"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "black bubbles started to form on the"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "surface. They weren't dripping from a"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "car above. They were oozing out of the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "pores of the rock itself. And within"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "seconds, the bubbles merged and right"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "before his eyes, the stain regenerated."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "Now he's horrified. He backed away. And"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "he realized there was no gang. There was"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "no political sabotage. Nobody was"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "pouring this stuff on the road. The road"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "itself was bleeding and it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "stopping. After that day, the narrative"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "in Venezuela shifted from anger to"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "panic. The government realized they"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "weren't fighting criminals. They were"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "fighting the environment itself. And"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "they had no idea what it was. So they"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "brought in experts from the US and"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "Europe and they took samples. And the"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "lab results were strange. They found"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "dust. They found oil. They found organic"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "material. But they couldn't figure out"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "where it was coming from. It was"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "inorganic, but it behaved like it was"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "alive. It reacted to the weather. When"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "it was cold and dry, the stain would"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "shrink like it was hibernating. But when"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "it was hot and humid and muggy, just"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "like it was the day Miguel saw it, the"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "stain would expand, creeping further up"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "the highway, consuming more lanes. The"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "government got desperate. In 1994, they"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "decided to suffocate it. So, they dumped"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "tons of pulverized limestone dust over"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "the highway, hoping to dry up the oil."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "And for a few days, it looked like it"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "worked. The road turned white. But then,"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "the dust mixed with the wind and created"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "these massive choking clouds that"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "blinded drivers and coated the lungs of"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "the people living in the nearby slums."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "And underneath the white dust, the black"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "goo just kept oozing, turning the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "limestone into this slippery gray sludge"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "that was even more deadly than before."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "Finally, the government spent millions"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "importing massive custommade cleaning"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "machines from Germany. I mean, these"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "things looked like futuristic tanks."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "They scrubbed the road down to the"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "bedrock. They resurfaced entire"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "sections. And for a while, it seemed to"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "work. And by 1996, the Black Hand was"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "gone. The roads were dry. Miguel and the"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "other drivers relaxed. They thought they"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "had killed it. This wouldn't be the end"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "because in 2001, just 5 years later,"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "Miguel was driving his taxi, but he"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "wasn't on the highway. He was deep in"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "the city of Caracus, miles from where"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "the stain had been. and he was driving"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "down a very busy avenue lined with shops"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "and apartments, you know, feeling safe."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "And he came to a stoplight and hit his"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "brakes and his car just kept sliding and"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "he started to panic. And so he looked"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "out the window and there it was. It was"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "now appearing all over the roads in the"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "city and it was bubbling up through the"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "pavement in neighborhoods that had never"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "seen it before. The media at the time"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "called it the black plague. But just as"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "quickly as it returned, it somehow"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "mysteriously vanished. And after 2001,"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "the sighting stopped. The roads dried up"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "and to this day hasn't returned. Now,"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "the official explanation, the one the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "government eventually settled on to calm"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "everybody down, was that it was nothing"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "but a bad batch of asphalt mixed with"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "oil from old leaky cars. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "the hot weather made the asphalt sweat"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "and the problem went away because they"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "repaved the roads. But people who lived"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "there like Miguel never really bought"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "the explanation."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Because if it had just been asphalt and"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "leaky cars, why did it happen in 86,"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "stay for 15 years, vanish for five even"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "though people were still driving those"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "same old cars? And then the final"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "details that makes the badass vault"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "theory even harder to swallow is the"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "very first report of the Blackhand, at"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "least the first time a driver noticed it"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "was in 1986. Which equally interesting"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "is that same year on a night known as"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "the night of the UFOs, thousands of"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "people in that exact region of Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "looked up and they saw strange"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "multicolored lights hovering over the"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "mountains and the highway. At the time,"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "the government scrambled fighter jets to"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "intercept them. But the objects defied"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "physics. They vanished and reappeared"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "miles away in seconds, and the lights"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "eventually disappeared. And almost"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "immediately afterwards, the black stain"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "began to bleed out of the ground"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "directly beneath where they had hovered."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "So, while the scientists say it was oil"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "and the politicians say it was sabotage,"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "the people who drove that road have a"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "different question. They wonder if"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "whatever visited them that night in 1986"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "didn't just leave that maybe it left"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "something behind. And because you guys"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "made it this far into the video, I want"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "you to all comment below black sludge."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "So that way I know who made it to the"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "enjoy storytelling like this where we"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "you waiting for? 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Snow began to fall, and not in"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "flakes, but in sheets. The wind roared"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "through the canyons, reducing visibility"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "to zero. And at this point, Aaron"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "grabbed his radio. He keyed the mic and"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "called out to his friends, and he told"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "them that he had gotten a little turned"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "around in the white out, but he was"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "correcting his course and heading back"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "to their camp. That was the last time"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "anyone would ever hear his voice. 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Build a fire and wait it out."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "So, he found a spot near a treeine that"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "offered some cover. And so, he managed"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "to get a small fire going. And as he sat"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "there, warming his hands, staring out"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "into the swirling white void of the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "blizzard, something happened. We don't"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "exactly know. But in cases like this and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "areas with this kind of history, there's"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "often a moment where the isolation"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "shifts from peaceful to predatory. 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Park"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "County Search and Rescue sent in ground"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "teams. They had dog teams. They had"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "helicopters flying grid patterns"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "whenever the weather broke. They focused"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "all their efforts on the west side of"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the mountain range, specifically around"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Sunlight Lake and Campfire Lake. That"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "was where Aaron was last seen and that"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "was where he said he was on the radio."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "That was where he had to be. The"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "searchers found nothing. The snow had"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "covered everything. The dogs could not"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "pick up a scent. It was as if somehow"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Aaron had magically been erased from the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "earth. After weeks of searching, the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "operation was scaled back. The"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "authorities unfortunately had to tell"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Aaron's family the heartbreaking news. I"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "mean, based on the temperatures and the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "lack of supplies, there was simply no"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "way Aaron could have survived. They"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "assumed he had succumbed to exposure"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "somewhere near Sunlight Lake and that"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "his body was buried under the snow,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "likely to be found in the spring thaw."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "The case was considered a tragic"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "accident, a simple case of man versus"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "nature. But then the snow melted. In"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "November of 2014, months after the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "search had been called off, a local"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "hunter was walking through the woods and"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "stumbled upon something that didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "belong. He found a small makeshift fire"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "ring and sitting next to the fire ring"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "placed neatly side by side was a pair of"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "hunting boots. And then there was a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "camel back water bladder. The hunter"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "recognized the gear from the missing"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "person posters. These were undoubtedly"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Aaron's boots. However, when he reported"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "this to the sheriff, the authorities"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "were confused because this campsite"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "wasn't exactly near Sunlight Lake. In"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "fact, it wasn't even on the west side of"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "the mountains. These boots were found on"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the eastern slope of the Crazy"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Mountains. To get from where he was last"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "seen to where these boots were found,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Aaron Hedges would have to have crossed"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "the main divide of the mountain range."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "He would have had to climb over jagged"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "10,000 ft peaks in the middle of a"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "blinding blizzard with limited gear. For"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "a lost hunter in a snowstorm, this was"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "virtually impossible. And even if he"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "somehow made that impossible climb, why"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "did he take off his boots? Why did he"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "leave his water? The mystery only"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "deepened the following summer in June of"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "2015. A man named Butch Beslanowitch was"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "hiking on private ranch land miles north"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "of where the boots were found. And Butch"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "spotted something leaning against a"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "tree. So curious, he walked over to it"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "and he found a hunting bow. And then"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "nearby was a backpack. And he opened the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "pack and found a hunting license. And"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "wouldn't you know it, folks, the name on"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the license was none other than Aaron"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Hedges. Obviously, investigators were"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "stunned because again, the location of"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "this gear was miles away from the boots"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and even further from the original"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "search zone. It painted this journey"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "that made absolutely no sense. It"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "appeared that Aaron, after surviving the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "initial blizzard, had somehow traveled a"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "massive distance barefoot, mind you,"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "through some of the roughest terrain in"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "North America, and had done so without"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "leaving a single track that the search"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "dogs could find. In August of 2016, so"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "nearly 2 years after Aaron's initial"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "disappearance, a rancher on the eastern"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "side of the mountains was checking his"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "fence line when he found human remains."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Sadly, dental records confirmed that the"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "remains belong to Aaron Hedges. He was"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "found just a mile and a half from his"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "backpack, but a staggering 15 miles from"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "where he was last seen by his friends."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "When the corner examined the remains,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "they hoped for answers. you know, was he"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "attacked by a bear? Did he fall and"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "break a leg? Was he shot? But there was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "none of that. There was no sign of"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "trauma. There was no animal predation."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "There was no bullet wounds. And so, the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "corner was just as confused as we are."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "And he just listed the cause of death as"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "undetermined. To this day, nobody can"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "explain how Aaron Hedges made the"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "journey. Rational theories fall apart"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "when you look at the terrain. A man in"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "deep snow, freezing to death, does not"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "climb over a mountain range. He goes"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "downhill. He follows gravity. But Aaron"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "went up. He went over and he kept going."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Mile after mile, shedding his gear,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "shedding his boots as if he was running"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "from something or perhaps as if he was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "being led. Now, there are stories in the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "crazy mountains of silence that falls"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "over the woods right before something"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "bad happens, of a presence that watches"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "you from the treeine. And when Aaron"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Hedges radioed his friends that"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "afternoon, he said he was heading back."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "He thought he was in control, but the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "evidence suggests that something else"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "took control that night. Because we're"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "dealing with the real loss of a human"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "life, an actual tragedy, I want to send"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "love and support to the family of Aaron"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Hedges, who still have to grieve and"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "deal with his loss every day. I can't"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "even imagine how difficult that must be."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "And while the family unfortunately has a"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "very grim closure, we can look at this"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "case from a very analytical perspective"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "and understand that if you're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "go deep into the wilderness for whatever"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "reason, not only do you need to go"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "prepared, but you cannot under any"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "circumstance separate from your group."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Regardless of all that, let's all send"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "our love and prayers to the Hedges"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "family as they still have to navigate"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "this grief. even though it happened 10"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "years ago. May God be with them and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "guide them in this time."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "In early October of 2022, a fourth"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "generation rancher named Lenny"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Clingalith rode his horse up into the"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "high country of the White River National"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Forest in northwestern Colorado. Lenny"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "was checking on his cattle, which graze"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "at an elevation of about 9,000 ft. This"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "is rugged, dangerous country. You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "it's the kind of place where the weather"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "can turn on you quickly in just seconds"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "and where the food chain is very much"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "active. Lenny was already on high alert"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that morning because in Colorado there"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "was this massive heated political debate"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "going on about the reintroduction of"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "gray wolves. You see, the state was"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "getting ready to bring them back. But"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "ranchers like Lenny knew that wolves"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "didn't care about politics. They just"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "cared about eating. And since Lenny's"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "ranch bordered Wyoming, where wolves"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "were already established, he figured it"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "was just a matter of time before a pack"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "crossed the line and came for his herd."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "So, as he rode through this high alpine"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "pasture, scanning the treeine, he"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "spotted something dark in the grass"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "ahead. He spurred his horse forward, and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "as it got closer, his stomach dropped."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "It was a calf, and it was dead. Lenny"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "got off his horse and walked over to the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "carcass. He nailed down to inspect it"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "and right away he saw what looked like"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "injuries. He saw the trauma to the hind"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "quartarters. He saw what looked like"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "bite marks. And immediately Lenny's mind"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "went to one place. He thought, \"They're"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "here. Oh my gosh, the wolves are here.\""}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "And so he stood up. He looked around. He"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "was angry. And he figured a rogue pack"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "had finally moved south. But he needed"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "proof, though. If he wanted the state to"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "do anything about it, he needed to show"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "them tracks. He needed to show them the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "struggle. So Lenny began to circle the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "carcass looking at the dirt. And now it"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "had been cold and the ground was hard"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "packed. He looked for paw prints, skids,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "you know, anything that would show a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "pack of 100 lb predators tracking down a"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "600-lb animal. But he didn't see any"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "obvious tracks. He didn't think this was"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "paranormal. He didn't think it was"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "strange. He just told himself the ground"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "was too frozen to take a print. Or, you"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "know, maybe the wind had swept the dust"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "over them. He basically rationalized it"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "away. He was a rancher. This was his"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "nature. And as we all know, nature is"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "messy. He marked this spot and decided"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "he'd call the wildlife officials when he"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "got back to service. But as Lenny got"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "back on his horse and rode a little"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "further up the ridge, he found another"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "one, and then another, and another, and"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "in a single area, Lenny found 18 dead"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "caps. Now, the situation had changed."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "This wasn't just a kill. This was a"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "slaughter. And Lenny was furious. He"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "raced back to town and called Colorado"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Parks and Wildlife or CPW. He told them"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "that a pack of wolves had just massacred"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "his herd and they needed to get up there"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "immediately. And so by mid-occtober, the"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "body count on Lenny's ranch had risen"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "from 18 to 40 head of cattle. Now we're"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "talking about tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "dollars in livestock and 40,000 lbs of"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "meat just dropping dead in the woods."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "The CPW took this incredibly seriously."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "They set up their best officers,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "veterinarians, and biologists. Then they"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "launched a fullscale investigation"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "because if this was wolves, it was a"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "massive political problem. So they"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "brought in surveillance planes to fly"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "over the forest, you know, with thermal"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "imaging to spot the wolf pack. They set"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "up dozens of trail cameras around the"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "kill zones. And they even sent out"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "biologists into the woods at night to do"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "howling surveys where they literally"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "howl at the moon and wait for the pack"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "to howl back to reveal their location."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Lenny and the officials were convinced"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "they were dealing with a super PAC or"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "something highly aggressive. So they"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "waited for the evidence to roll in. They"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "waited for the trail cam footage. They"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "waited for the thermal hits. But night"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "after night, the forest was silent. The"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "howlers would howl, but nothing would"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "call back. The planes flew over. And you"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "know, they saw elk, they saw deer, there"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "was even coyotes, but there was no"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "wolves. So, as strange as this was,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Lenny started to get really frustrated."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "He told the officials that these wolves"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "must be ghosting them, that they were"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "smart. He was thoroughly convinced they"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "were just evading the technology. So,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "investigators decided that they would"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "pivot. If they couldn't find the live"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "wolves, they would prove it with dead"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "cows. So, they performed necropsies,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "basically autopsies for animals on the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "carcasses. They were looking for"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "specific bite patterns, the hemorrhaging"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "under the skin that happens when a"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "predator grabs a cow or maybe even wolf"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "DNA in the wounds. But as veterinarians"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "began cutting into these animals, the"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "mystery didn't get clearer. It got"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "darker. They looked for diseases."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "There's a bacteria known as black lake"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "and it can kill cattle instantly. If a"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "herd gets spooked and runs, the stress"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "can trigger the bacteria and they all"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "drop dead. It's rare, but it happens."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "But when they tested the tissue, it was"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "negative. There was no lesions. These"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "cows were healthy one minute and dead"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "the next. Then they checked for toxins."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "You know, maybe they ate a poisonous"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "weed, but the water sources were clean."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "So, they went back to the predator"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "theory and they looked closely at the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "injuries Lenny had seen. And this is"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "where experts started to get really"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "quiet because the CPW Northwest regional"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "manager, a man named Travis Black, had"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "to call a meeting with the commission."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "He basically admitted that they were"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "scratching their heads. He told them"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "that while a few of the calves had"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "missing tails or marks on their hawks"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "that looked like bites, the vast"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "majority of the 40 dead cattle had no"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "external injuries. And the ones that"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "did, the wounds were wrong. You see,"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "when a wolfpack kills a cow, it's messy"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "and violent. You know, they tear the"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "animal apart, they eat the organs, they"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "eat the meat. But these cattle, they"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "hadn't been eaten. They were just struck"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "dead. And so, in the middle of February"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "of 2023, after months of investigation"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "and not finding really anything"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "conclusive, the CPW officially closed"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "the case. They released a statement"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "saying that they could not determine the"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "cause of death. They ruled out wolves,"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "they rolled out disease, and they rolled"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "out poison. And it was only after the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "official investigation closed that the"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "true high strangeness of what happened"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "on that mountain started to circulate"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "because when you looked at all the facts"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "together, without the wolf bias, the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "picture was impossible. There were the"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "tracks. I mean, remember when Lenny"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "found the first calves and told himself"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "the ground was just too hard to leave"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Prince? Well, over those few weeks, it"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "had rained, it had snowed, there was"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "mud, there was soft dirt. And in all"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "that time, with 40 massive animals being"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "slaughtered, investigators never found a"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "single predator track. Not a wolf print"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "or a lion print or anything that would"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "suggest a large predator took them out."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "It was simply as if the killer had"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "floated over the herd, struck them down,"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "and then floated away. Secondly, there"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "was the scavenging, right? In the wild,"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "if 40,000 lbs of meat is just sitting"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "there basically on a dinner plate, ding"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "ding ding ding. Nature cleans up pretty"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "fast, right? We got vultures, magpies,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "coyotes, bears. I mean, that's just"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "naming a few. They all come to the free"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "buffet. But ranchers and people talked"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "about something very unsettling. And"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "they said that for days and even in some"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "cases weeks, scavengers, for whatever"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "reason, wouldn't touch it. That's odd,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "isn't it? I mean, Lenny would even see"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "birds circling high above, but they"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "refused to land. Well, that's weird. It"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "was as if the wildlife somehow knew that"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "there was something wrong with the meat,"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "something unnatural. And then, of"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "course, there is the feral dog theory."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Now, in this last ditch effort to"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "explain all this, officials mentioned"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "that they had found pack of feral dogs 7"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "mi away. They suggested maybe dogs chase"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "the cows to death. But again, dogs are"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "messy. They play with their food. These"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "cows simply dropped dead in their"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "tracks. Many with no marks at all. Lenny"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "Clinglesmith, a man who has spent his"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "entire life on that mountain ranching."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "He knows all the predators. He knows all"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "the dangers in the woods. He eventually"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "declined any compensation from the"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "state. He just had to accept that it"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "wasn't wolves, but that it left him with"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "a terrifying reality. He was left with a"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "silent pasture and 40 dead animals. and"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "he had to go to sleep at night knowing"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "that whatever killed his herd, something"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "that leaves no tracks, that doesn't eat"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "what it kills, something that terrifies"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "even the scavengers, was still out"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "there. To this day, nobody knows what it"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "On the afternoon of October 8th, 2023, a"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "couple named Shannon and Stson Parker"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "sat comfortably on a bench inside one of"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "the passenger cars of the Durango and"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad in"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "Colorado. The train was chugging its way"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "through the San Juan Mountains, which is"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "this incredibly rugged remote stretch of"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "wilderness in the southwestern part of"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "the state. The Parkers were having a"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "great time. They were celebrating their"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "10th wedding anniversary and they had"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "chosen this train ride specifically"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "because it cuts through areas of the"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "high country that are pretty much"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "inaccessible by road. Shannon and Stson"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "were from Wyoming, so they weren't"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "strangers to the outdoors. They knew"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "what they were looking at when they"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "looked at nature. And specifically on"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "this trip, they had one goal in mind."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "They were scanning the tree line and the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "hillsides for elk. And as the train"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "rattled along, leaving the small town of"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "Silverton and heading back toward"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Durango, Stson was staring out the"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "window, his eyes locked on a steep,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "grassy hillside about a mile away. This"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "was a tough piece of terrain covered in"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "sage brush and rocks. You know, the kind"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "of slope that would be a nightmare to"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "hike up. And as Stson scanned the hill,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "he spotted movement. At first, he"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "squinted and he's trying to make out"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "what he saw. But he saw this bipeedal"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "figure, something walking on two legs"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "moving across the slope. Immediately he"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "felt a flash of annoyance and he turned"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "to Shannon and told her he spotted a"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "hunter out there, but he said that this"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "guy was breaking the law. It was hunting"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "season, but it wasn't rifle season yet."}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "It was bow season. But regardless of"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "that, if you're out there hunting, you"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "are required to wear blaze orange for"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "safety. And this figure was on the hill"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "not wearing orange. They were covered in"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "what looked like a brownish camouflage"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "ghillie suit. You know the suits that"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "look like a pile of leaves or grass. So"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "Stson pointed it out to Shannon,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "basically saying, \"Look at this guy."}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "He's bow hunting, but he's not wearing"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "his vest.\" So Shannon grabbed her"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "camera, which had a powerful zoom lens,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "and then a passenger nearby named Austin"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "grabbed his phone, and they all wanted"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "to get a look at this rule-breaking"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "hunter. But as they watched this figure"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "through their lenses and screens, the"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "logic of Hunter theory started to fall"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "apart. Now, the movement alone was weird"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "because a human in a heavy ghillie suit,"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "hiking across a steep, uneven"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "mountainside at high altitude, would be"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "struggling. They would be picking their"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "way carefully over rocks, maybe using"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "walking sticks. Their gate would be"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "choppy. But this figure wasn't"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "struggling. It was moving very fluidly"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "with a heavy stride. It was covering"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "ground way too fast, taking massive"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "steps that seem to eat up the yardage"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "effortlessly. And the color was off,"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "too, because even the best camouflage"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "usually has some variation or breaks in"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "the pattern. But this was one solid"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "uniform color. And in mid-con"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "conversation, it did something. As the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "train car continued to roll past, the"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "figure on the hill stopped walking and"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "dropped into a squat. But it wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "way a human like you and I would squat."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "You know, where you might kneel on one"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "knee or sit on a rock to rest. This"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "thing just folded its legs and crouched"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "low into the sage brush in one smooth"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "motion, blending perfectly into the"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "background. It looked less like a man"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "taking a break and more like an animal"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "engaging its natural camouflage. The"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "train then rounded a bend and the"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "hillside disappeared from view. So"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "Shannon, Stson, and the other passengers"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "who had seen it immediately huddled"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "together. The annoyance about the"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "illegal hunter had vanished and was now"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "replaced by deep confusion. So they"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "started reviewing the footage Austin had"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "captured on his phone and the photos on"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "Shannon's camera. And as they zoomed in"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "on the frozen frames, the hunter"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "explanation completely evaporated. If"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "this was a hunter, where was his gear?"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "There was no backpack. There was no"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "rifle slung over the shoulder. There was"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "no compound bow. It was just this lone"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "figure. And if it was a person in a"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "suit, why were their arms so long? In"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "the photos, the figure's arms hung down"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "incredibly low, much slower than an"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "average human's reach. Some people on"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "the train suggested that maybe it was a"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "prank, that maybe someone had dressed up"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "in a costume to mess with the tourist."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "But Shannon and Stson looked at the map."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "They were miles from the nearest road. I"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "mean, to get to that specific spot on"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "that hillside, a prankster would have"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "had to hike through hours of brutal"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "unmarked wilderness carrying a heavy"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "costume just to stand on a hill for 30"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "seconds as a train went by, hoping"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "somebody would notice them from a mile"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "away. It didn't really make sense. But"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "there was another theory that people"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "claimed it was a bear. But I think a lot"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "of people forget that bears only walk on"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "two legs for very short distances. And"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "that's usually to get a better look at"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "something or to reach food. They don't"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "look natural when they do it either."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "They look wobbly and uncomfortable. And"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "this thing had walked a long distance"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "with a very purposeful swinging stride."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "Bears definitely do not squat down on"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "two legs like a catcher in a baseball"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "game to hide in the bushes either. As"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "Shannon looked closer at the blownup"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "images on her camera screen, she saw the"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "silhouette clearly, and she could see"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "that it had a massive bulky frame. It"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "was covered in hair, not fabric, and its"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "head wasn't round like a human wearing a"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "hat or a helmet. It was conicle, which"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "is pointed at the top and sitting"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "directly on the shoulders with no"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "visible neck. They both realized that"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "the reason the hunter wasn't wearing"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "blaze orange was because he was breaking"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "the law. It was because he wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "hunter and he wasn't a human. They had"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "gone into the mountains looking for elk,"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "but they had found something else"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "entirely. The video went viral almost"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "immediately, sparking debates. But for"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Shannon and Stson, the debate was over"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "the moment they zoomed in on the photo."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "They knew what they saw. It was what"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "they believe was Sasquatch roaming the"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "high country of Colorado watching the"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "train go by. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The space age didn't begin with science."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "It began when a founder of the Jet"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Propulsion Laboratory summoned a demon."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "This is the dark truth about the age of"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "disclosure in the upcoming Disclosure"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Day film. We aren't preparing for"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "contact with aliens. We're walking into"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "a spiritual trap set by the very"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "entities we were warned not to trust."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "You won't want to miss this one. On a"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "cold night in January of 1946, a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "31-year-old rocket scientist named Jack"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Parsons stood inside of a circle drawn"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "in the sand of the Mojave Desert in"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "California. Standing just outside the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "circle, holding a notebook and a pen,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "was his assistant, a science fiction"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "writer named L. Ron Huard. Jack Parsons"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "was one of the founders of the Jet"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Propulsion Laboratory, or JPL. He was a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "brilliant chemist who practically"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "invented the solid rocket fuel that"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "would eventually take humanity to the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "moon. But on this night, Jack was not"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "doing science. He was dressed in black"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "robes, holding a sword, and chanting in"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "an ancient language called Anakian. Jack"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "believed that while science could take"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "man to the stars, only magic could bring"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "the stars to man. So for weeks, he and"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Hubard had been performing a ritual"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "known as the Babylon working. Their goal"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "was incredibly specific and incredibly"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "dangerous. They wanted to rip a hole in"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the fabric of reality, a portal, and"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "invite a celestial being to cross over"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "into our world. As Jack reached the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "climax of the ritual, the air in the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "desert suddenly grew heavy. The wind"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "died down instantly and the temperature"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "dropped. And then there was a sudden"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "sound. Not a boom, but a tearing sound,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "like a zipper opening in the sky. Jack"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "dropped his sword, looked at Hubard, and"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "he smiled, and he would later write in"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "his diary that he had succeeded. He had"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "opened the door. Jack went back to his"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "lab, thinking he had ushered in a new"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "age of enlightenment. He thought he was"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "in control. But what Jack did not"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "realize was that when you open a door to"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "the unknown, you don't get to choose"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "what walks through it. And something did"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "walk through. Less than 18 months later,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the world would change forever. 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There were"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "biologics, bodies, small gray humanoid"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "forms that were clearly not human. The"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "US Army Air Force immediately put out a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "press release saying they had captured a"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "flying disc. But then, just hours after,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "they retracted it and said it was simply"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "a weather balloon. To the public, this"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "looked like the government was hiding"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "the existence of visitors from another"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "planet. 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It"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "started months after Jack Parsons went"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "into the desert and performed a ritual"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "to summon nonhuman entities. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "coincidences did not stop there. In June"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "of 1952, Jack Parsons died in a massive"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "explosion in his home laboratory. He was"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "blown to pieces. And less than 30 days"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "after the sorcerer scientist died, a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "fleet of UFOs appeared over Washington"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "DC. 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And the officers watched"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "in shock as she wrote down coordinates"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and various technical details about the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "ships information which she could not"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "have ever possibly known. Now to these"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "secular military men in the room, they"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "were baffled. They dismissed the method"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "as crazy occult nonsense, but accepted"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "it because the data was accurate. I"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "mean, they figured, hey, if it works, it"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "works. And in fact, one Navy commander"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "was so impressed that he actually tried"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "the technique himself. He sat down,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "cleared his mind, and invited these"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "beings to come in and make contact, and"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "it worked. He was successful. Moments"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "later, a UFO appeared outside the window"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "of the building they were in. Now, for"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "most of the government, this was a"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "breakthrough. It was proof that we could"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "talk to the visitors. But for a secret"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "faction of officers inside the Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "later known as the Collins Elite, this"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "was the moment they realized humanity"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "was in grave danger. The Collins elite"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "looked at the data. They looked at Jack"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Parsons opening the door of the ritual."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "and they looked at aliens communicating"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "through mediums and Ouija boards,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "methods that have been used for"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "thousands of years to contact spirits,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "not astronauts. They realized the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "government wasn't dealing with"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "extraterrestrials from Mars or Zeta"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Reticuli. They were dealing with"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "something much older, something that had"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "been here the whole time, waiting for an"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "invitation. However, the Collins elite"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "were ignored. The machine of the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "military industrial complex was too"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "hungry for the technology. They wanted"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "anti-gravity drives. They wanted"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "weaponry. And so the coverup began, not"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "to hide the truth about aliens, but the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "nature of the bargain the government was"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "making. Fast forward 80 years to the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "present day, and it's 2025, and secrecy"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "is finally breaking. The documentary,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "The Age of Disclosure, is sending shock"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "waves through the world. The filmmaker"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Dan Farah managed to get 34 highlevel"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "government insiders to go on camera. I"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "mean, we're talking about former"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "intelligence directors like James"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Clapper, retired Navy admirals, and even"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Senator Marco Rubio. And folks, they all"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "said the same thing. We are not alone."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Whistleblower David Grush, who's a"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "former highranking intelligence officer,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "tells the world that the US has an"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "entire stockpile of crashed craft. and"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "he explains that they have intact and"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "partially intact vehicles as well as"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "bodies or dead pilots. Another insider"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "by the name of Jay Stratton, who ran the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "US government's UAP task force, looks"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "into the camera and says plainly that he"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "has seen these non-human beings with his"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "own eyes. The world is electrified. The"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "truth is finally out. But what's even"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "more interesting is when Hollywood steps"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "in to seal the deal. Coming out in June"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "is Stephen Spielberg's massive"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "blockbuster release called Disclosure"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Day, which basically depicts a world"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "where humanity finally learns the truth."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "It shows Emily Blunt as a news reporter"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "getting possessed by an alien signal on"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "live TV, and it shows Josh O'Conor as a"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "whistleblower fighting to get the truth"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "out. I'm sure many of you are well aware"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "of the ties Hollywood has to the occult."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "And if any of you are even semi-educated"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "on how the occult communicate, it's all"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "through symbolism to put it plainly. So"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "when you see marketing material like"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "this, you realize out of the thousands"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "or tens of thousands different designs"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "and marketing material you can do, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "very interesting that you would choose"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "this sort of imagery, which obviously"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "depicts one thing. I don't know about"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "you guys, but they are blatantly putting"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "it out in the open that they know"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "something is coming that there's going"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "to be a disclosure day at some point."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "But when we don't know, I feel like with"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the timing of all these things, ThreeI"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Atlas, you know, the age of disclosure"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "film, this film coming out, this isn't"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "just by happen stance. This is very well"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "orchestrated and planned out. But I also"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "want to state that this is just my"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "personal opinion based on my beliefs and"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "what I know and what I've studied."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "However, I'm not alone because"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "researchers like Timothy Alberino and La"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Marzulli are watching this unfold with"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "horror. They know that what the Collins"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "elite knew back in the ' 50s. They point"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "out the one thing that everybody is"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "ignoring. If these are simply biological"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "creatures from another star system, why"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "do they defy the laws of physics? How"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "can they pass through solid walls? Why"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "do they appear to people and paralyze"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "them and feed off their fear? And then"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "there's the whole Andrrenchrome thing"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "which is horrifying and I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "get into that in this video. But"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "strangest of all, why do they flee when"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "people invoke the name of Jesus Christ?"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Is it possible that what we're dealing"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "with here is already foretold in the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "book of Genesis 6? They argue that these"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "biologics that David Grush saw are the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Nephilim, the hybrid offspring of fallen"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "angels. The technology that the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "government is so desperate to reverse"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "engineer is the forbidden knowledge that"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "the Watchers gave to mankind in the days"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "of Noah. The Collins elite tried to warn"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "the Pentagon by studying this"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "technology. They were engaging in a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "spiritual transaction. They believed"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "that these entities were demonic"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "deceivers masquerading as space brothers"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "to lead humanity away from God. And now"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "in 2026, the trap is finally springing."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "The disclosure that the world is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "cheering for is not the truth. It is the"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "strong delusion spoken of in second"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Thessalonians. It is the final act of a"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "ritual that Jack Parsons started in the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "desert 80 years ago. He opened the door"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "and the government spent decades"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "studying the things that came through."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "And now they're about to invite the rest"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "of them in. The world thinks it's about"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "to meet aliens, but when the sky opens"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "up, it won't be Martians coming down to"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "save us. It will be the old gods, the"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "fallen ones, coming back to reclaim"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "their kingdom. In late 1991, an Anglican"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "priest and UFO researcher named Ray"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Bochi traveled to Lincoln, Nebraska for"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "a meeting that he was told never"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "happened. He was meeting with two"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "scientists who worked for the US Defense"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "Intelligence Agency or DIA. These were"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "men with the highest security clearances"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "imaginable. These are men who spent"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "their days analyzing classified data"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "from satellite intercepts and military"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "sensors. But when they sat down across"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "from Ry, they weren't acting like"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "hardened intelligence officers. They"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "were shaking. They were terrified. They"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "handed Ry a stack of documents and told"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "him a story that seemed impossible. They"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "explained to him that inside the"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Pentagon, a secret program had been"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "established to communicate with what the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "government called nonhuman entities or"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "NHE. The scientist explained that the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "government had successfully established"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "contact and were receiving messages."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "They were receiving technical diagrams."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Now, on the surface, it just looked like"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "a diplomatic exchange with an advanced"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "extraterrestrial civilization. However,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "scientists told Rey that there was a"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "problem. They said that these entities"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "were liars. The entities would show the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "government analysts images of the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "future, terrible cataclysms, wars,"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "environmental collapse, and then promise"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "that they had the technology to save"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "humanity. They presented themselves as"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "these benevolent space brothers here to"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "guide us into a new age. But the two"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "scientists had noticed a disturbing"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "pattern. The more they interacted with"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "these things, the more their own"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "personal lives began to fall apart. They"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "described poltergeist activity following"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "them home from the lab. They spoke of"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "shadows standing at the foot of their"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "beds or their families falling ill, of a"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "dark, oppressive atmosphere that had"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "nothing to do with science and"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "everything to do with spiritual warfare."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "They told Ray Bochi that they had come"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "to a horrifying conclusion. The US"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "government weren't talking to aliens."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "They were talking to fallen angels. And"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "the government was unknowingly entering"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "into a Fouian bargain, trading human"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "access for forbidden technology. Now,"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "this meeting in '91 was the first crack"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "in the dam, revealing a silent civil war"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "that has been raging inside the American"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "intelligence community for decades."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "While the public was being fed movies"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "about ET and Close Encounters, a faction"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "known as the Collins Elite was"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "desperately trying to shut down these"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "programs. They weren't trying to hide"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "the truth from the public. They were"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "just trying to save the souls of the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "people involved. But the Collins elite"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "failed. The lore of the technology was"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "too strong. You see, the reason the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "government couldn't stop engaging with"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "these entities is because of what we"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "call the arms race. History shows us"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "that while the US was recovering craft,"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "so were the Russians and the Chinese."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Now, the logic in the Pentagon was that"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "if these entities are demons, so be it."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "We cannot let our enemies harness their"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "power before we do. And in fact, not to"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "side rail off too much, but this is the"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "exact same mentality with creating a"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "super intelligent AI. We can see that in"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "the highest echelons in the government,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "nothing changes. That's the same"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "mentality, the greed for ultimate power"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "before anybody else gets it. Well, in"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "2007, the Pentagon quietly launched the"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Program or ATIP. They then began"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "studying high stranges locations like"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch in Utah. And just like"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "the DIA scientist warned in '91, the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "phenomenon didn't stay at the ranch."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Shocker. intelligence officers, tough,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "secular men would visit. They'd see"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "lights in the sky, you know, and maybe"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "dig into the ground, and then they would"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "go home to Virginia or Maryland or"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "wherever, and suddenly their wives would"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "see wolflike creatures in the backyard."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "I'm not making this up. Their children"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "would wake up screaming because of orbs"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "floating through the walls, and it"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "became known as the hitchhiker effect."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "I'm sure many of you watching this have"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "probably heard of this. This was proof"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "that this wasn't just biology and nuts"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "and bolts hardware. This was a spiritual"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "infection. Which brings us to the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "precipice we are standing on right now."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "The narrative being pushed right now by"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "the documentary The Age of Disclosure"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "and Steven Spielberg's film coming out"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "is all designed to prepare you for one"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "specific conclusion. That this event"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "that's going to be coming is a"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "unification event. That we're a part of"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "a larger cosmic family. And many ask the"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "question, well, why would God make such"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "a vast universe yet save it for only us?"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Which is why I believe and several"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "others that this is actually a Trojan"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "horse. What I believe we're seeing right"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "now is a part of the soft disclosure"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "phase. It is all conditioning from the"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "whistleblowing to the declassified"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "videos, the Senate hearings. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "there's just so much. And remember, if"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "you're if you're watching this thinking,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "well, what's the purpose of all of this?"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Well, when this happens and the entities"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "finally show themselves to the world,"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "they will not look like monsters or"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "horrible aliens. They will look like"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "these shining ones. And they will claim"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "that they seated life on the earth and"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "that they genetically engineered us"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "thousands of years ago. That they are"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "our creators and have returned to save"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "us from ourselves. And just like the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "Bible talks about a false second coming,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "they will have the miracles and signs"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "and wonders to prove it. They will heal"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "the sick. They will stop the wars. They"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "will offer us energy that costs nothing."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "But the price of admission to this new"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "galactic society will be the abandonment"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "of the old superstition. That every"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "religion ever created was wrong. And we"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "just had things misinterpreted. That"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Buddha, Muhammad, Christ was all one of"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "them. An advanced teacher misunderstood"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "by primitive man. Even the Collins elite"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "warned that these entities are extremely"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "deceptive by nature. They can manipulate"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "matter in human consciousness. And if"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "the world accepts their story, we aren't"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "just accepting new technology here. We"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "are accepting an entirely new religion."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "The age of disclosure isn't about the"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "government finally telling the truth. It"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "is about the government finally"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "surrendering to the lie. They're not"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "here to save us. They're here to harvest"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "us. If the ritual in the desert in 1946"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "was the opening and the decades that"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "followed were the silent infiltration,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "then what's happening right now is the"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "final stage. It is called the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "acclimatization. For 80 years, the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "strategy of the entities and their human"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "collaborators within the military"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "industrial complex was absolute secrecy."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "They denied everything. But starting in"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "2017 and accelerating rapidly through"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "2023, the script flipped. Suddenly, the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "Pentagon wasn't just admitting that UFO"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "videos were real. They were establishing"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "official offices like the All Domain"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Anomaly Resolution Office or Arrow. We"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "watched as former high-ranking officer"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "named David Grush sat before Congress"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "under oath and told the world that the"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "US government possesses intact and"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "partially intact vehicles of non-human"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "origin. Now to a lot of the secular"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "world, it appears like the government is"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "losing control of the secret and it"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "looks like a victory for truth. But I"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "don't believe that's the case. I think"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "this is the execution of the plan."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "Remember that humanity has to be fully"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "psychologically primed to accept these"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "beings not as invaders but as saviors."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "And the most powerful tool for that"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "conditioning isn't a dry government"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "briefing. It's a story. To anyone"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "familiar with the research of the"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "Collins elite or the Bible, this looks"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "like something else entirely. It looks"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "like channeling demonic possession. And"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "the film, no shock or surprise, is"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "filled with this imagery. We see flashes"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "of red cardinals, birds behaving"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "strangely, acting as harbingers or spies"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "for the entities, suggesting that nature"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "itself is under their control. Or to"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "reverse the Garden of Eden situation,"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "that now because they're coming back and"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "there are saviors, well, we can connect"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "with animals again as it's once been."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "Oh, they are the Christ. They are the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "coming. They're here to set everything a"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "new. that that this is all a part of the"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "grand deception. And for anybody"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "watching this still on the fence, why is"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "it that all not just some or one or two,"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "but all the people who have dealt in"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "close contact with these entities all"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "say the same thing? They are liars."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "They're manipulators. They want to turn"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "mankind away from the truth. The thing"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "is, Martians don't flee from the name of"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Jesus. Demons do. The age of disclosure,"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "folks, is coming and the world is ready"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "to believe. The real question is, when"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "it happens, are you really going to know"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "what you're looking at? And because you"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "guys made it this far, I want you to"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "leave a comment down below, disclosure"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "day, so that way I know who made it to"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the end and who didn't. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "There is something weird happening in"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Montana's wilderness. From missing"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "persons to bizarre anomalies on tribal"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "lands that defy logic, this episode will"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "take you through four cases that prove"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Montana holds some of the most"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "disturbing encounters ever recorded. You"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "won't want to miss this one. On the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "morning of October 24th, 1936, a"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "9-year-old boy named Murray Walkup"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Miller stood in a clearing in the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Sapphire Mountains of Montana. It was a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "crisp, perfect fall day, and the air"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "smelt like pine needles and sawdust. At"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "the time, Murray was there with his"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "stepfather and his brother, and they had"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "driven out from their home in"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Stevensville early that morning to cut"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "firewood for the coming winter. 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But his brother was tired and"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "annoyed and he told Murray that since he"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "had spilled it, he should be the one to"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "fill it. So without waiting for a"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "response, the brother turned around and"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "walked back toward their stepfather,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "leaving Murray alone in the woods to"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "finish the job. Now, it should have"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "taken him less than 10 minutes in total"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "to run back down, grab the water, and"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "catch up. But 10 minutes passed, and"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Murray did not return. And so, after"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "about 15 minutes, his stepfather stopped"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "chopping. And he looked around and he"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "saw Murray's brother coming through the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "trees all by himself. When he asked"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "where Murray was, the brother explained"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "about the spill and how Murray had gone"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "back to refill the pale by himself. The"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "stepfather didn't think much of it at"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "first. He figured Murray probably got"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "distracted playing by the water or was"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "just moving slow because the full bucket"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "was heavy. So he told the brother to"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "stay by the truck and he walked down the"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "path toward the creek to give Marie a"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "hand. But when the stepfather got down"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "to the water's edge, he stopped. The"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "creek was empty and there was no sign of"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the boy. And weirdly, there was no sign"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "of the metal pail either. So he called"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "out Murray's name, expecting to hear the"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "boy shout back from just around the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "bend. But there was no noise. And so he"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "walked up and down the bank and he"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "checked behind boulders and he looked up"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "into the dense canopy, thinking that"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "maybe the kid was just playing a game of"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "hide-and-seek. But as he searched, it"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "only grew more silent. And then the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "woods around him began to feel heavy. It"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "wasn't just that Murray wasn't there. It"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "was that there was no tracks. There was"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "no indication that he had even been in"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "the area at all. After an hour of him"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "frantically searching for his son, he"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "realized this was beyond him. So he just"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "grabbed Murray's brother. He jumped in"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "the truck and drove as fast as he could"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "down the mountain to find a phone. When"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Sheriff James Olivera got the call, he"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "did not hesitate because he knew the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Sapphire Mountains were very"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "unforgiving. They stretched for 60 mi"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "south toward the Idaho border, filled"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "with very steep ravines, dense, unmapped"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "forests, and plenty of predators like"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "bears and mountain lions. By that"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "evening, the sheriff had organized a"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "massive search party. You had dozens of"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "men from the local communities who had"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "drove up to the mountains, and they"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "spread out from the spot where Murray"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "had last been seen, and they moved"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "shoulderto-shoulder through the brush."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "They carried lanterns and torches, and"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "they called Murray's name into the dark,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "but there was no response. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "following morning, the search escalated"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "to a level that this part of Montana had"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "rarely seen at the time. About 500 men"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "arrived to volunteer along with 125"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "soldiers from Fort Missoula. They grid"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "searched the burnt fork region, checking"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "every cave, ravine, every nook and"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "cranny, every cluster of trees they"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "could possibly find. And at night, the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "searchers would build a dozen bonfires"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "throughout, hoping that if he was out"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "there, you know, cold, hungry, scared,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "he would see the glow of the fires in"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "the distance and he would walk toward"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "them. Basically acting as a beacon of"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "light that can be seen. But even after"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "these attempts, he never came to the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "fires. And by the fourth day, you can"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "tell that the mood among the searchers"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "and overall morale was pretty low. The"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "nights of course were freezing, dipping"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "well below safe temperatures for any"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "child without a coat. Remember that this"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "kid had no food. He had no water. He had"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "no extra clothing, let alone any"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "clothing that would help him survive in"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "this sort of terrain. And on top of all"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "of that, he had no survival training"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "whatsoever. Everyone involved in the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "search began to accept that this wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "about looking for a missing boy. They"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "were likely looking for a body now, or"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "that perhaps a mountain lion had dragged"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "him off. What really threw them off was"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "they had combed every logical inch of"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "ground within a radius a child could"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "possibly walk. And they had found"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "absolutely nothing. They didn't find any"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "scent. They didn't find any of his"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "tracks. In fact, it was like he had just"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "never been there at all. On the fifth"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "day, things changed. Two US Forest"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Service employees, a man named Dagel and"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "his partner Charles Lear, were working"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "near an area called Rock Creek. Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "it's important to understand that they"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "were not part of the search party. They"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "weren't even looking for him because"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "they were miles away from the search"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "zone in a completely different drainage"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "area near a lookout tower. However, as"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "they were working, Del just happened to"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "look across the creek and he saw"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "something moving on the other side. And"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "so, he grabbed Charles arm and he"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "pointed and standing there alone in the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "wilderness was this small figure. Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the men, obviously perplexed, started"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "shouting because they could see that it"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "was a boy and they were asking if this"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "kid is okay. You know, at first he"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "didn't really respond. He kind of just"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "sat there and stared at them. But then"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "he finally raised a hand and he gave a"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "weak wave. Charles Lear didn't wait. He"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "plunged into the freezing water and he"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "waited across the creek. And when he got"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "to the bank, the boy practically"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "collapsed into his arms. It was Murray"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "and he was in terrible shape. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "barely conscious. His clothes were"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "shredded and his skin had this waxy gray"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "quality from severe exposure. And he was"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "so weak he could barely stand on his"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "own. And so Charles picked him up and he"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "carried him back across the water and"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "they rushed him to get help. Now when"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Murray was finally reunited with his"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "parents and doctors at the hospital, he"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "was treated for exhaustion and"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "dehydration. But remarkably, he had no"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "broken bones and no other major"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "injuries. Once he regained his strength,"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "everybody had the same question. What"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "happened? Murray told them that after"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "his brother left, he filled the pale"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "again. But when he turned to go back to"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "his stepfather, he somehow got turned"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "around. And he said he just kept walking"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "and thinking he was heading toward the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "truck, but he never found it. And folks,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "this is where it gets really strange"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "because he says that he walked for 5"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "days and nights sleeping under trees and"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "drinking from streams. But when the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "sheriff and the forest service rangers"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "looked at the map, Murray's story didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "make sense. Now, I need you to remember"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "that Murray was a 9-year-old boy. He had"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "vanished in a 15-minute window. And yet,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "he was found not 1 or 2 or 3 miles away,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "but 15 miles away from where he had"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "disappeared. Now, obviously, 15 mi on a"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "flat road is a long walk for a kid. But"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the issue is that Murray didn't walk on"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "a flat road. I mean, to get from Burnt"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Fork, where he had vanished, to the Rock"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Creek area, that means he would have had"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "to have crossed the Sapphire Mountain"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Divide. And I need you all to know that"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "this is a place that he would have had"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "to scale jagged peaks, descending into"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "steep, brush choked canyons, and"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "obviously navigate terrain that even"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "seasoned outdoorsmen struggled to cross"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "in good weather with full gear and"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "survival knowledge. And somehow he did"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "this in late October in freezing"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "temperatures with no food, no available"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "water other than what he could find in"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "streams. And in just 5 days, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "think that's possible. Interestingly,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "most studies on missing children in the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "wilderness show that kids in this age"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "range are almost always found within a"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "few miles of their last known point."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "They usually walk in circles or hunker"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "down. They don't line drive 15 miles"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "over a mountain range. Realistically and"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "logistically, there was no physical way"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "for a starving, freezing 9-year-old boy"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "to cover that kind of terrain in that"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "amount of time on his own. However,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "there he was alive. Unfortunately, to"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "this day, nobody knows how he crossed"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "the mountains. The searchers with their"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "bonfires and their grid lines never"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "stood a chance of finding him because"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "almost as soon as he vanished, he was"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "somehow miles away, deep in a completely"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "different forest. as if something had"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "picked him up and dropped him there."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "On the morning of February 22nd, 1976, a"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "29-year-old man named Leonard Hegela was"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "driving his car south along Interstate"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "15, which is just outside of Great"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Falls, Montana. At the time, it was"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "about 10:00 a.m. The weather was crystal"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "clear, and Leonard was making great"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "time. Leonard was a local guy, very"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "practical, comfortable in the outdoors,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "and like a lot of men in Montana in the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "1970s, he firmly believed in being"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "prepared for anything. So, whenever he"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "went for a drive, he always brought"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "along a 357 Magnum, and he kept it right"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "there in the car with him. It gave him a"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "sense of security. As Leonard drove"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "along, he just kind of zoned out on the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "highway, and he noticed something off to"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "his right. Now, about a quarter mile"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "away, out in this big open field, there"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "was a figure walking along the top of a"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "small hill or a kind of null. And at"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "first glance, he just assumed it was a"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "hiker or maybe a ranch hand. But as he"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "got a little closer and he kept watching"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "it, he realized something was wrong with"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "the way this person was walking because"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "they were moving at a very steady pace,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "but their arms were swinging wildly at"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "their sides, like a soldier marching,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "but very loose. and exaggerated and in a"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "way it kind of looked mechanical or"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "maybe like somebody who was hurt or even"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "intoxicated. And curious, he slowed his"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "car down and he pulled over onto the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "shoulder to try and get a better look."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "And you know, he sat there for a second"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "idling just watching this figure march"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "across the field. And he started to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "think that, you know, maybe this person"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "is in trouble. Maybe they're injured or"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "lost. So he decided that he was going to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "go check it out. He turned off his car,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "grabbed his 357, and he stepped out onto"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "the side of the highway. He checked the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "gun. He felt the weight of it in his"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "hand, and he felt confident. So, Leonard"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "hopped over the guardrail and started"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "jogging toward the field to get to where"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "this figure was. And he had to climb"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "through a barbed wire fence and cross a"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "frontage road, but he kept his eyes on"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "this figure the entire time. And as"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Leonard closed the distance, he started"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "to get confused because he was running."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "He was making good time, but he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "gaining on the figure. And it was very"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "clear that whoever this was was simply"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "covering a lot of ground. And they"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "weren't running. They were just walking"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "in that weird rhythmic arm swinging way."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "They never sped up. They never slowed"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "down. They just kept moving. So, you"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "know, Leonard, he crossed the frontage"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "road and he entered the field and now he"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "was really pushing it, trying his best"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "to keep up. And as he got closer, the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "details started to come into focus. But"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "none of them made any sense. From what"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "he could tell, the figure was dressed in"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "this like dark clothing, maybe a heavy"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "coat. But the proportions were very off."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "I mean, the shoulders were way too wide"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "for a normal person, and the head kind"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "of just seemed to sit directly on the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "shoulders, like this guy had no neck."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "But Leonard, still operating on the"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "logic that this is just a strange"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "looking man, kept pursuing. and he"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "figured, you know, okay, maybe he's"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "wearing a backpack or heavy winter gear"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "that's making him look extra bulky. And"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Leonard got within about 7 or 800 feet"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "of this person and he was about to yell"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "out to get their attention when suddenly"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "the figure stopped. It didn't just slow"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "down to a stop. It simply ceased"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "movement instantly and it lowered its"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "arms to its knees and its sides and then"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "very slowly the entire body kind of just"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "rotated to face Leonard. And that was"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "the moment Leonard realized he had made"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "a terrible mistake. Standing there in"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the field was not a hiker. It wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "ranch hand. It wasn't a human being."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Whatever he saw stood at least 7 ft. It"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "was covered in dark hair or fur. Its"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "chest was massive like a barrel. and its"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "shoulders were at least three feet wide"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "and it was looking right at him and"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Leonard froze. Now, his hand at the time"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "was gripping his 357, something that"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "made him feel very safe and in control"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "just a few minutes before this. But"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "looking at this thing standing not more"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "than 200 yd away, he just felt"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "completely helpless, like even this"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "wasn't going to save him. And somewhere"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "inside of him, instinctively, he knew"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "that if he fired that gun, it would just"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "make whatever this was angry. He"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "realized he was not the predator here."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "He was the prey. But whatever it was"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "that was just a couple hundred yards"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "away didn't make a noise. It didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "roar. It didn't charge. It just stood"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "there still observing Leonard. And even"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Leonard recounted that in that moment,"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "it felt as if all the air around him"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "just had been sucked out of the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "atmosphere and he could just feel"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "everything. Every alarm bell in his"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "brain is just ringing at once. And he"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "realized he had to get out of there. So"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "he began to slowly back away, never"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "taking his eyes off this animal. And it"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "just let him go. It stood there like a"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "statue watching him retreat. And once he"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "felt like he had enough distance, he"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "turned and he ran. and he sprinted back"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "across the field, his heart hammering in"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "his chest the entire time. He was in"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "full panic mode and he scrambled to the"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "fence, his clothes catching on the"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "barbs, but he didn't care. He tore"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "himself free, ran across the frontage"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "road, and he finally reached his car,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "fumbled with the door handle, and he"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "threw himself into the driver's seat. He"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "slammed the door. Pam, and he locked it,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "and he's gasping for air, and he's"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "hyperventilating. He has no idea what"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "just happened. And then compulsion"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "completely took over. He had to look one"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "last time. He had to see if it was"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "chasing him. And so Leonard looked out"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the window back toward the field where"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "this thing had been, but it was gone."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Instead, hovering silently about 10 ft"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "off the ground, right near where this"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "creature had been, was a massive gray"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "oval-shaped object. Folks, this was a"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "flying saucer. It wasn't making any"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "noise. It was just silently gliding"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "there in the air, smooth and metallic,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "and Leonard was in complete and total"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "disbelief. The craft gently floated up"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "about 15 ft, stopped, then bobbed back"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "down like a cork floating on water. And"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "Leonard just sat there watching this,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "clutching the steering wheel, his brain"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "trying to process what's happening in"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "real time. And he's thinking, first a"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "7ft monster, now a UFO, all in the span"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "of 10 minutes. I can't handle this. and"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "he watched the object for another minute"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "or so as it bobbed up and down. And then"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "terrified that it might decide to come"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "over and investigate him, Leonard just"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "started his car and he peeled out onto"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "the highway. And as he drove away, he"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "began shaking, like physically shaking."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "And he kept asking himself, \"Why did I"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "get out of the car? Why did I think that"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "I could handle that?\" Well, when Leonard"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "finally reached his destination, he was"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "faced with a dilemma. He knew he had to"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "tell somebody. I mean, this was simply"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "too big and dangerous to just keep to"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "himself. But he also knew that the"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "circumstances of things, I mean, he"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "sounded crazy, right? If he walked into"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "a police station and said he saw a"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Bigfoot and a flying saucer, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "they'd lock him up on the spot. But he"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "decided that he had to risk it. So, he"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "ended up contacting the Cascade County"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Sheriff's Office and got connected with"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "a deputy named Keith Wolverton. Leonard"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "didn't care. He told Keith everything"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "and he expected not to be believed. He"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "expected Keith to laugh him off the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "phone or to tell him to go sleep it off."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "But Keith in fact told Leonard that he"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "believed him. It would turn out that"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Leonard Hegela was not the only person"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "in Montana seeing things that shouldn't"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "exist. Deputy Keith Wolverton opened up"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "his files and explained to Leonard that"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "the area around Great Falls had become"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "ground zero for a massive wave of high"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "stranges. Keith told Leonard that just"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "the day before Leonard's encounter,"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "another man had called in to report a"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "hairy bipeedal creature roaming the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "exact same area. And the reports just"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "kept coming. In fact, later that year in"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "July, a woman driving on Interstate 15,"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "the same road, mind you, that Leonard"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "was on saw a 7 foot tall broad"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "shouldered creature standing on the side"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "of the road at 5 in the morning. and she"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "watched it for about four minutes before"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "it just walked off into the wilderness."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "Well, a week after that, four fishermen"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "reported seeing two of these things"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "moving through the trees near the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Rainbow Dam. But the reason Keith"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Wolverton took Leonard so seriously"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "wasn't just because of these other"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "reports. It was because Keith had his"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "own encounter that proved something was"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "truly going on in the skies of Montana."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "A few months prior, in November of 1975,"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Keith and another deputy were on patrol"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "when they saw a massive orange glowing"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "orb hovering in the night sky. And as"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "they watched, this orb descended"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "rapidly, coming down until it was just"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "200 f feet above their police cruiser."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "And Keith said they could see it clearly"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "that it was a structured craft of some"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "kind. And in the blink of an eye, it"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "shot across the horizon and disappeared."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "Keith later investigated his own"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "sighting and discovered that on that"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "very same night, a B-52 bomber crew"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "flying over Montana had reported the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "exact same object. And the crew said"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "that the object came so close to their"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "plane that their radar systems failed"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "and their equipment went haywire. Now,"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "to this day, nobody knows exactly what"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "was happening in Montana in 1976."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "But for Leonard Hegela, the lesson was"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "simple. Sometimes when you see something"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "strange on the side of the road, it's"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "better just to keep driving."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "On a blistering hot afternoon in the"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "summer of 1994, a young boy named Samuel"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "was sitting in the dirt outside of a"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "small house on the Fort Peek Indian"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Reservation in Montana. Samuel and his"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "father had driven out there to visit"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "Samuel's uncle, who happened to live in"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "a community called Fort Kip. Now,"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "calling Fort Kip a community, it's a bit"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "generous. I mean, it was really just a"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "smattering of houses that was spread out"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "over miles of rolling hills and dense"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "forestry. It was isolated. It was quiet."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "But on this day, it was also incredibly"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "boring. Samuel's uncle was in a"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "wheelchair, so his house had this long"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "wooden ramp that led up to the deck. And"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "since there was no other kids around and"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "really no toys to play with, Samuel just"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "wandered down to the base of that ramp"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "where there was a patch of loose dry"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "dirt. And for whatever reason, he's"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "like, \"You know what? I'm going to dig.\""}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "So he just started digging. And as he"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "was just kind of scooping the dirt into"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "piles, trying to pass the time, his"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "fingers ended up brushing against"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "something hard. And he paused. He's"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "like, \"Huh?\" So he dug a little deeper"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "and he pulled out this heavy metal disc"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "and he brushed the dirt off and he"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "realized that he was holding an old"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "silver dollar. Now obviously silver"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "dollars aren't this big but you know I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "just telling you the story. Now it was"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "obviously tarnished and heavy and to a"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "kid in 1994 this was like finding buried"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "treasure and he was very very stoked."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "And so he sat there and he turned the"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "coin over in his hands just wondering"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "who dropped it and you know how long it"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "had actually been down there. But as he"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "was staring at the coin, the air around"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "him just suddenly changed. You know that"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "feeling you get when you walk into a"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "room and you know somebody is just"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "looking at you before you even see them."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "It was like that but magnified and the"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "hair on the back of his neck just stood"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "up and the heat of the day almost seemed"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "to just drop away and it was replaced by"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "this cold prickly sensation that washed"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "over his entire body. and he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "know why or who or what, but he kind of"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "just froze there and he lowered the coin"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "to his lap. But for whatever reason, he"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "didn't look up. He suddenly had this"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "overwhelming biological instinct that"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "looking up was a really bad idea. But"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "the feeling of being watched was so"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "intense, it was almost physical. It was"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "like a weight pressing on the top of his"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "head. And eventually, he couldn't help"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "himself. So very slowly he raised his"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "head and he looked toward the south out"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "toward the edge of the property and"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "about 40 or 50 yards away there was a"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "lone tree just standing in a field of"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "tall grass. Now upon first glance it"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "looked relatively normal. It was just a"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "tree with rough gray bark. But as you"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "know, not all was normal because as he"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "stared at it, his brain started to"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "reorganize what he was seeing and he"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "realized the texture of the tree trunk"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "wasn't quite right. And in fact, there"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "was a section of the bark that seemed to"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "have depth to it. And then it clicked."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "Pressed tight against the trunk of the"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "tree, camouflaged almost perfectly, was"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "a figure. It was tall and gaunt, and its"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "skin was the exact same grayish brown"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "color as the wood. And the only reason"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "Samuel had finally spotted it was"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "because he noticed these impossibly long"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "spindly fingers that were wrapped all"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "the way around the trunk, gripping it."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "Now, Samuel's eyes traveled up from the"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "fingers to the face, and that's when his"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "stomach dropped. The thing had these"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "massive egg-shaped eyes, but they"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "weren't like human eyes. They were"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "hollow. They looked like empty sockets"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "that were somehow still focused right on"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "him. And below those was a smile. And it"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "wasn't happy. It was this wide fixed"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "unnatural grin that stretched way too"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "far across its face. Obviously"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "terrified, wanted to scream. He wanted"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "to run up the ramp and get his dad, but"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "he couldn't because he was so overcome"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "with fear that he was physically"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "paralyzed. It wasn't just fear, though."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "It was like his motor functions had"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "ceased. He So, he just sat there in the"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "dirt clutching that silver dollar locked"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "in a staring contest with this nightmare"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "that was blending into the tree. Samuel"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "knew that deep down this hadn't just"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "appeared. It had been there the entire"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "time and it had been watching him"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "praying on him. And at some point, he"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "came to his senses because his paralysis"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "broke and he felt his legs again. He"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "didn't waste a second. He scrambled to"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "his feet, dirt flying everywhere. And he"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "just sprinted up that wooden ramp and he"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "hit the door so hard that he nearly"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "broke it, bursting into the living room"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "where his dad and his uncle were just"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "having a casual conversation. Now,"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "obviously by his grand entrance, both"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "men were startled and they jumped and"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "they're like, \"What the heck's going"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "on?\" And they looked at Samuel, who was"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "clearly just heaving for breath. His"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "face was bright red. He was clearly"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "terrified. and he's white knuckling this"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "dirty silver dollar. Now, his dad"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "immediately stood up and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "\"What is wrong? What just happened?\" But"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Samuel in between his gasps of air just"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "pointed outside and he explained that"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "there was a monster in the tree. He"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "described the skin, the long fingers,"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "and the face. Now, usually this is the"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "part of the story where the parent"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "laughs it off, right? You know, they"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "tell the kid it was a deer or a shadow"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "or their imagination. But Samuel's"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "father, his expression went flat and he"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "looked at Samuel's uncle and they"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "exchanged this very serious glance. And"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "without saying a word, Samuel's dad"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "walked over to the door. He went outside"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "and Samuel followed him, staying close"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "behind his legs. And they walked down"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "the ramp and out to the spot where"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "Samuel had been digging. So Samuel, he"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "pointed a shaking finger at the lone"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "tree in the distance. But of course,"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "whatever figure was there was now gone."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "It was just a tree. After Samuel's dad"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "stared at it for a moment or two, he"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "didn't dismiss it. He walked all the way"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "out to the tree. He circled it. He"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "looked at the ground around the base. He"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "looked at the bark where Samuel said the"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "fingers had been. And he just stood"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "there for another long moment, just"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "staring into the treeine beyond the"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "field. Then he walked back to Samuel."}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "And the entire time, he didn't make a"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "sound. He didn't say a word. He just"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "acted very nonchalant about it. He then"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "put a heavy hand on his son's shoulder"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "and knelt down so that they were eye to"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "eye. Samuel braced himself for the it"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "was just a dream speech, but instead his"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "father looked him dead in the face and"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "told him not to worry. He said that"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "Samuel had been given a gift. And he"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "told him that he had the ability to see"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "things that other people couldn't see."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "That his father stood up, looked back at"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "the tree one last time, and he said,"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "\"You know, son, sometimes we're blessed"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "with gifts we don't want.\""}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "On a warm evening in 1986, three young"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "cousins named Rand, Wes, and Sherry were"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "playing hideand seek in the hills behind"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "their grandmother's house on the"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "near Lame Dear, Montana. Their"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "grandmother lived in a very isolated"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "spot at the base of these rolling hills"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "surrounded by sage brush and rock. And"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "before she had let the kids go outside"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "to play that evening, she had given them"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "one very specific rule. Stay by the big"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "rocks near the house. Do not go up into"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "the ravine. Now, to the kids, this just"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "sounded like typical grandmotherly"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "nagging. You know, watch out for snakes,"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "don't trip and fall, that sort of thing."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "But they agreed and they went outside."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "As the game of hideand seek went on,"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "Sherry, who was the hider for this"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "round, realized that the rocks near the"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "house were just too easy. And if she"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "wanted to win, she needed a better spot."}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "So, ignoring her grandmother's rule, you"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "know, she snuck away from the house and"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "headed about 150 yards uphill right into"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "that forbidden ravine down below. Rand"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "and Wes were still searching around the"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "house, totally unaware that Sherry had"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "left the safe zone. You know, they're"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "looking behind the shed. They're looking"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "under the porch, thinking she's just"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "really good at hiding. And suddenly,"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "they heard a scream coming from way up"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "the hill. And this wasn't just a"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "playful, \"You found me!\" scream. It was"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "a high-pitched, blood curdling shriek."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "Randy and Wes immediately stopped what"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "they were doing, and they looked up"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "toward the ravine, and they could hear"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "Sherry yelling over and over again, \"He"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "was coming.\" Now, the boys assumed that"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "maybe a stranger had somehow wandered"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "onto the property, or maybe there was a"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "loose dog that was chasing her. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "acting on instinct, they took off"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "running up the hill to help their"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "cousin. But they didn't get very far"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "because before they could even reach the"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "ravine, they saw Sherry crest the hill,"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "sprinting back down toward them. And she"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "was moving so fast she nearly stumbled"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "over her own feet. And she kept looking"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "back over her shoulder with this look of"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "terror and horror on her face. And"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "that's when Rand and Wes looked past her"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "to see what it was she was running from."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "And about 30 feet behind Sherry darting"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "through the sage brush was this figure."}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "Now, at first glance, they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "quite make out who or what it was, but"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "they could see that it was smaller,"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "maybe 3 or 4 feet tall, but it was"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "moving very fast and very unnatural. And"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "because the way the light was hitting"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "the brush at the time, it almost kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "appeared that this person was wearing"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "some kind of green camouflage like a"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "hunter or maybe a soldier in a ghillie"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "suit. You know, just blending in"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "perfectly with the greens and browns of"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "the environment. But whoever this was,"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "they were incredibly fast and they were"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "gaining on Sherry. Now Rand and Wes"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "didn't wait to ask questions. The moment"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "they saw this person chasing their"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "cousin, they turned around and they"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "bolted back toward the house. So now you"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "have all three of them screaming and"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "sprinting down the hillside, terrified"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "that this camouflaged maniac is going to"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "grab them. And inside the home, the"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "grandmother was in the kitchen making"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "dinner when she heard all the commotion,"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "you know. So she wiped her hands on her"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "apron and she stepped out onto the back"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "porch to see what the heck was going on."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "And immediately she saw her three"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "grandchildren running for their lives"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "toward the back door. And then she"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "looked up past the three to see what"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "they were running from. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "the reality of the situation became"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "terrifyingly clear. This wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "hunter. It wasn't a soldier. It wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "person in a ghillie suit. As the figure"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "broke out of the sage brush and hit the"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "open grass of the backyard, the"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "grandmother could clearly see that it"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "wasn't wearing any clothing at all. It"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "was muscular, human- shaped, but its"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "skin was literally green. And it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "running like a person. It was moving in"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "a very predatory fashion. and it was"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "laserfocused on the children. The kids"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "burst through the back door, practically"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "tackling their grandmother as they"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "scrambled inside. And the grandmother,"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "you know, she slammed the door shut,"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "locked it, and she immediately ran to"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "the window to see where this thing was."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "And as she watched as this green thing"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "sprinted right up to the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "yard, probably about 30 or 40 ft from"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "the home, and then just stopped. It"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "didn't slow down. It didn't halt like it"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "had hit an invisible wall. It just stood"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "there staring at the house. Now, if this"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "had been a human intruder, you would"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "expect the grandmother to run to the"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "phone and call the police. You know,"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "just tell them there's a predator in the"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "yard. But she didn't call the police."}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "Instead, she picked up the phone and"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "began calling her family members, her"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "brothers, her uncles, the elders of the"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "family. And she didn't tell them, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "there's a prowler.\" She told them,"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "\"They're here. You need to come now.\""}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "So, over the next hour, truck after"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "truck pulled up to the grandmother's"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "house. uncles and cousins jumped out"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "with flashlights and rifles, and they"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "all crowded into the living room. But"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "interestingly, none of these tough men"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "went outside to hunt this thing down."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "They just stayed inside, peering out the"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "windows from time to time. And by this"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "point, it was fully dark. But the"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "grandmother knew exactly where the green"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "figure had stopped. And every time"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "someone shined a flashlight beam out"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "toward that spot in the yard, they would"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "see the grass kind of swaying or they"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "would catch a glimpse of a small dark"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "shape ducking down just out of the"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "light. It was obviously still there and"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "it wasn't going anywhere. It had not"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "left. It was just watching them,"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "watching and waiting. And so the family"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "spent the entire night awake, guarding"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "the doors and the windows, listening to"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "the sounds of something moving around"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "the outside of the house. This was"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "clearly a siege. Finally, the sun did"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "come up and the men went outside to"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "check the perimeter and the figure was"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "clearly gone. Now, usually in stories"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "like these, the adults tried to tell the"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "kids, \"Oh, you just saw a bear or it was"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "just a shadow.\" But that didn't happen"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "here. When the story got out, the elders"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "on the reservation weren't surprised. In"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "fact, they validated exactly what they"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "saw. They said that the hills around"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "Lame Deere have always been the home of"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "the little people, which are ancient"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "supernatural entities that are known to"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "be guardians of the land. And if you go"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "where you aren't supposed to go, they"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "will chase you out. And if that wasn't"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "terrifying enough, right around the same"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "time, just miles away on the same"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "reservation, another group had an"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "encounter that proved the little people"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "weren't the only things lurking in the"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "hills. A group of friends had hiked out"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "to a secluded spot between three hills"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "to go camping. They set up their tents,"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "built a fire, and were settling in for"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "the night. But they heard the sound"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "coming from the darkness above them. And"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "it sounded like something walking on the"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "loose shale of the hillside. And"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "suddenly, a small rock flew out of the"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "dark and landed near the fire. And at"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "first, you know, the campers thought"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "that maybe it was just an animal kicking"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "rocks down because they had heard the"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "noise. But then another rock came and"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "another. And these weren't falling"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "randomly. They were being deliberately"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "thrown in their direction. Most"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "terrifying is that the rocks were"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "getting larger and larger. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "went from pebbles to fistsized stones"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "whistling through the air and just into"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "the ground around their tents, you know."}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "So, they stood up, they shouted into the"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "dark, trying to scare off whoever was"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "messing with them. But then a massive"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "boulder came crashing down from the hill"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "and it smashed directly into their"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "campfire. Of course, burning logs and"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "embers exploded everywhere. It sprayed"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "the campers with fire. I mean, this was"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "pure chaos. People were screaming,"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "swatting embers off their clothing,"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "trying to figure out what on earth was"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "happening. And in that moment of panic,"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "they just decided to abandon camp. They"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "didn't pack up. They just ran for their"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "trucks. But as they were scrambling into"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "their vehicles, one of them looked back"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "toward the fire they had just left. And"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "what they saw made them floor it out of"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "there. Because standing in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "their destroyed campsite, backlit by the"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "dying flames, was a tall human-shaped"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "figure, or so they described. It was"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "kind of dancing around the fire, leaping"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "back and forth over the embers, like it"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "was celebrating that it had driven them"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "away. But as the figure turned, they"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "realized it wasn't human. From the neck"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "down, it looked like a man. But where"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "its head should have been, there was the"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "head of a deer, complete with a massive"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "set of antlers. Now, the campers sped"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "away and didn't stop until they were"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "back in town. Now, to this day, the"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "locals around Lame Deere know that there"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "are just certain places in the hills you"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "just don't go because whether it's the"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "little people or the deer man, you never"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "know who or what is watching you from"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "the brush. And because you guys made it"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "this far, I want you to all comment down"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "below Big Sky Country, so that way I"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "know who made it to the end and who"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "didn't. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "In some of the most extreme environments"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "on the planet, there stand ancient"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "structures that all suggest the same"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "thing. That someone was here long before"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "we think they were. An ancient circular"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "city erected with impossible precision."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "A desert fortress with no clear purpose"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "why it was built. And a bizarre stone"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "formation that challenges our"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "understanding of geology. This episode"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "will take you through three cases that"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "force us to question who really built"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "our ancient world. You won't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "miss this one. Early one spring morning"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "in 1989, two archaeology grad students"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "from Chilyabinsk State University named"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Sasha and Peter found themselves at an"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "exciting new dig site in a remote corner"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "of Russia. They'd gotten up early before"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "the sun had even come up, and the idea"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "was that they were going to impress"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "their professors with a few extra field"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "hours, maybe even earn a little extra"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "credit. Everything went well at first."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Sasha had just finished setting out all"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "their equipment when she heard Peter"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "yelling out to her. There was something"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "that he wanted her to see on the other"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "side of this ridge. Well, as soon as"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Sasha finished up what she was doing,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "she headed in the direction of her"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "classmate's voice. And sure enough, he"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "found something very interesting because"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "just up ahead, Peter was standing at the"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "edge of the survey grid near the ruins"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "of this low stone wall. Nothing grand,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "just a ring of rocks half buried in the"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "dirt. When Sasha got to where he was,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Peter started wandering into the center."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Now, Sasha knew they weren't supposed to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "be doing this, but honestly, she was"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "curious, too, and couldn't pass up the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "chance for a little unsupervised"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "exploration. I mean, what could be the"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "harmony, right? So, Sasha stepped into"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "the circle with her friend, and she had"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "just barely made it into the center of"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "the stone circle when she noticed"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "something very odd. Somehow the air"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "seemed thicker here. And when she looked"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "around, she realized this pale mist had"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "started rising up from the ground. And"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "in just a few seconds, it was so thick"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "that Sasha could barely see her own"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "feet. And that's when she realized"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "something. It wasn't just her feet that"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "she was having trouble seeing. It was"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "everything. Even though the circle was"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "fairly small, Sasha couldn't see the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "edges anymore. And even stranger, she"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "couldn't see Peter either, even though"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "he must have only been a few feet away."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "But she could still hear him, but now he"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "sounded like he was way across the"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "valley. So she started to call out to"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "him, and that was when she saw the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "flash. It didn't make any sound, and she"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "didn't feel any heat, but it definitely"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "happened. In fact, it was so bright that"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Sasha automatically closed her eyes when"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "it went off, but it only lasted a"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "second. Maybe Peter had taken a"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "photograph. But she didn't remember him"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "bringing a camera, and if he'd taken a"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "picture, then he should have been close"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "enough for her to see him. But instead,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "she was standing completely alone. And"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "then she heard the voices. They started"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "as these subtle whispers. But over the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "course of just a few seconds, the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "overlapping voices grew louder and"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "louder, like somebody was standing right"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "beside her. She couldn't make out the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "words, but it felt like an entire crowd"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "of people had surrounded her. It was"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "almost too much for Sasha to bear. But"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "just as the panic began to set in,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "everything changed. Everything went"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "silent. The mist dissipated as quickly"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "as it had appeared. And there in front"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "of her was Peter coming from the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "opposite end of the stone circle."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Obviously, she was very relieved, and"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "they were both very confused. And so the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "two of them, without saying a word, just"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "headed back towards where the rest of"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "the team was camped. It was a bad idea"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "to have headed out here alone. And now"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "they knew why. As it turned out, the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "rest of the team had not seen or heard a"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "thing. Later, when Sasha and Peter tried"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "to compare notes, they found that their"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "memories were disjointed, like they were"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "only remembering fragments. Neither of"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "them could explain the mist, the flash,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "or the disembodied voices. All they knew"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "was that they'd walked into a simple"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "stone ring in broad daylight and walked"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "out with a story that still didn't make"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "any sense. As alarming as this"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "experience was, Sasha and Peter were not"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "the first students to ever visit this"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "place. In fact, it had been discovered 2"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "years earlier by students from the same"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "university. On the morning of June 20th,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "1987,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "two university students named Alexander"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Vorov and Alexander Ezrael were heading"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "across a barren field in Russia's"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "southern Eural region. They were part of"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "a survey team sent to investigate this"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "area to see if it had any real"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "archaeological value. Now, this was a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "time-sensitive job because within a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "year, this whole valley would be"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "completely flooded by a new reservoir."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Both had been on site for hours looking"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "for something worth preserving. It was"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "tedious work, and they were basically"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "just walking back and forth across empty"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "fields, occasionally photographing a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "rock formation or, you know, marking"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "down the location of an old fence post."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "There's nothing exciting going on."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "nothing that would make it into any"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "history books. However, as they crested"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "this very small hill, Mr. Vorov stopped"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "dead in his tracks and he was staring"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "down at the ground in front of him. Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "initially his friend thought maybe he'd"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "spotted an artifact, but when the other"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Alex reached the top of the hill, he"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "realized it wasn't an object that had"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "caught his classmates attention. It was"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "the shape of the land itself. Below them"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "were these strange embankments. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "they were different than the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "area, and they clearly were not natural."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "They were too clean and geometric. And"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "with a little imagination, it almost"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "looked like they were massive walls that"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "might have stood here a long time ago."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Only now, thousands of years later,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "they'd been covered by dirt and grass"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "until only the faintest outline could be"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "seen. This was the first exciting thing"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "all day. So the students immediately"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "contacted their supervisor, an"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "archaeologist from the Chileinsk State"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "University named Gennady Zadanovich. And"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "when he got there, Gennady knew that"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "this was significant because he had seen"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "things like this before. There were"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "obviously the remains of some sort of"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "ancient structure. But that wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "only thing that Gennady realized. He"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "also knew that the clock was ticking"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "because they had less than a year before"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "this entire area would be underwater."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "So, they had to act quickly. Now, over"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the next several months, Gennady and his"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "team began carefully excavating the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "site. And folks, what they found was"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "absolutely mind-blowing because this"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "wasn't some simple ancient settlement."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "This was far more important than that."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "This was a massive fortified city and it"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "had been built with a level of"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "sophistication that seemed utterly"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "impossible for its age. They named it"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Archae after a nearby mountain. The"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "outer structure that Alex and Alex had"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "found was massive. Arim was perfectly"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "circular with thick walls arranged in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "concentric rings and it stretched over"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "520 ft in diameter. Now, the walls"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "themselves were 16 ft thick and about as"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "tall with a 6.5 ft deep moat surrounding"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the whole thing. And once they started"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "digging, they learned that these walls"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "had been carefully engineered made from"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "adobe with timber frames, all covered in"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "unfire clay bricks. Now, inside these"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "walls, archaeologists found the remains"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "of about 60 dwellings, all very"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "carefully arranged. The houses in the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "outer ring faced inward toward a"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "circular street, while the houses in the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "inner ring faced a central square. Like"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "the outer walls, these buildings were"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "highly sophisticated. Each house"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "averaged around 1,600 square feet of"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "floor space over multiple rooms. And"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "everyone had its own well, storage"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "cellar, hearth, and this is crazy. Each"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "building even had its own furnace for"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "smelting bronze and making pottery. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "I want you guys to understand that if"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "you're not familiar with ancient"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "archaeology, this was unheard of for a"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "place this old. But it wasn't just the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "houses themselves that amazed everybody"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "who worked on this. Because everything"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "about how Arim is laid out is"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "extraordinary. It shows levels of urban"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "planning that this part of the world was"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "not supposed to have for another"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "millennia. The city itself had a wooden"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "paved circular street with a covered"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "drainage system underneath it. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "there were even gutters that collected"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "rainwater and channeled it into storage"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "pits. And the artifacts themselves"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "showed clearly that the inhabitants of"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Arim were way more advanced, a lot more"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "than their neighbors. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "archaeologists found the world's oldest"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "known chariot at a nearby site dating to"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "around 2026 BC. But the most incredible"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "discovery was that this city had been"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "designed as a massive astronomical"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "observatory. From above, the entire"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "layout creates a pattern that looks like"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "ancient sacred symbols. And the four"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "main gates are precisely aligned with"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the cardinal directions, north, south,"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "east, and west. But it goes beyond that"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "because the doors of the houses, the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "gates, even the angles of the walls,"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "everything is precisely aligned with the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "movements of the sun, the moon, and the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "stars. Now, today we know that whoever"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "lived there could have used their city"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "to track at least 18 different"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "astronomical events. And these"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "alignments, they aren't just"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "approximate, folks. Araim's observations"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "are accurate to within one arc minute."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "To put that in perspective, that's 10"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "times more precise than the famous"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "alignments at Stonehenge. So, the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "question is, how old is Arim exactly?"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Based on the artifacts found there,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "archaeologists have determined that"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Arcane was built around 2,50 BC. That"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "makes it nearly 4,000 years old. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "part of something called the Centasha"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "culture, which is an ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "civilization that once flourished in the"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Eurasian steps during the Bronze Age."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "And based on burials found nearby, they"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "appeared to be an Indo-Iranian people"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "who ritually sacrificed horses as part"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "of their religion. According to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "archaeologists, Arim once housed"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "somewhere between 1,500"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "to 2,500 people. And at its height, it"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "must have been a sight to see. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "there's tons of evidence of highly"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "advanced farming, metal working, and"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "pottery making. 4,000 years ago, this"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "was like Manhattan. But here's where"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "things get really strange, because after"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "thriving for about 200 years, the entire"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "city was practically abandoned"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "overnight. And we don't know why. Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "it's clear that it wasn't because of"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "war, disease, famine, natural disasters,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "or anything like that. But for whatever"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "reason, archaeologists can tell that the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "inhabitants deliberately set fire to"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "their city before leaving. I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "burned it all. Every house, every"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "community structure, the whole thing."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Then they just walked away and they"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "never came back. Now, you're probably"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "asking the same questions as me. Why"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "would an entire civilization"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "deliberately destroy their own city,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "especially when this advanced? And the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "simple fact is, nobody knows. For"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "whatever reason, by 1989, Arim was"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "facing destruction again. Because as"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "news of the discovery spread, the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "government faced a dilemma. The"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "reservoir project was already underway."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "They had already spent millions and the"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "dam was nearly complete. And in less"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "than 6 months, our caim would be"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "underwater forever. So, Gennady and his"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "team launched a desperate campaign to"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "save the site. They petitioned"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "government officials. They wrote letters"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "to newspapers. And they tried their"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "hardest to convince anyone who would"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "listen that our caim was too important"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "to lose. And miraculously, their"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "campaign worked because in April of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "1991, just weeks before the valley was"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "scheduled to be flooded, the council of"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "ministers cancelled the reservoir"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "project and declared Arim a protected"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "historical site. And it's a good thing,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "too, because archaeologists were about"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "to make another shocking discovery. They"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "soon learned that Arim was not unique,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "that it was actually part of an entire"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "series of settlements. And using aerial"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "photography and satellite imagery, they"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "found more than 20 similar circular"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "cities spread across the southern Eurals"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "and northern Kazakhstan, all built with"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "the exact same distinctive architecture."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "And are you ready for the kicker? They"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "were all abandoned around the same time."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "But no matter how much they learned,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "archaeologists still had the same"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "questions. Was it really just a city or"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "something stranger? Now, some"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "researchers began to wonder if Arim"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "might have been a spiritual center. I"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "mean, the possibility was reinforced"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "when archaeologists made a disturbing"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "discovery in 2013. While excavating a"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "nearby site in the Arim Valley, they"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "found some human remains. And the skulls"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "of these skeletons were very odd. You"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "see, they'd been deliberately deformed,"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "pressed, and bound from infancy into"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "these unnaturally stretched shapes. This"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "practice is commonly known as cranial"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "deformation. And you actually see it a"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "lot with elite members of ancient"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "societies who wanted to distinguish"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "themselves from the commoners. But even"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "though we know it was something that our"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "ancestors practiced in different parts"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "of the world, that doesn't really make"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "it any less strange. I mean, we all know"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "what an elongated skull looks like. As"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "word about these discoveries spread"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "around, our kaim began to attract"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "attention from people interested in more"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "than just archaeology. Everything about"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "it enticed people who are looking for"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "evidence of ancient mysteries like"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "extraterrestrial visitation. On top of"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "ancient alien researchers, people"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "interested in mythology also started to"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "come up with their own theories about"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "Arim. Some said it was the birthplace of"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Zoro Aster, the ancient prophet who"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "founded Zoroastrianism."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Others suggested it might be connected"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "to the legendary city of Asgard from"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "North mythology. And the surrounding"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "mountains have their own mysteries as"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "well, from miraculous healings to divine"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "revelations to groves of trees that"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "supposedly only grow in spirals."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Whatever is going on at Arim, the"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Russian government eventually designated"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "it as an official national and spiritual"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "shrine. And folks, not long after,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "people from various religious movements"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "started making pilgrimages there. And"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "that's when the reports started coming"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "in. Visitors left and right to this"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "place began experiencing things they"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "simply could not explain. They said that"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "they were seeing strange lights in the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "sky above the ruins and UFO sightings"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "became very common. Others claimed to"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "hear voices speaking in unknown"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "languages when they walked around the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "ancient walls. Some reported feeling"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "suddenly disoriented and even a few"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "claimed to see ghostly figures moving"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "through the ruins at night. But"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "seriously, those things were reported."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "Now, it isn't just tourists to Arim who"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "have noticed that the whole place is"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "strange because scientists have even"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "noted that the area around Araim has"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "very unusual and strange magnetic"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "properties. I mean, compasses don't work"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "properly. Electrical devices seem to"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "malfunction. And some researchers think"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "that these anomalies might explain all"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "the strange experiences that people are"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "having, but it might not be the cause of"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "all the supernatural activity. It might"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "just be another symptom. Nowadays, Arim"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "remains one of the most mysterious"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "archaeological sites in the entire"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "world. People continue to study it. They"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "try to understand how a bronze age"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "civilization could have possessed such"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "advanced knowledge. But folks, the more"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "we learn, the less we seem to know. And"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "all we can say that for certain is that"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "4,000 years ago, some sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "civilization built a city the world had"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "never seen. They lived there for two"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "centuries, watching the stars, and one"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "day, for some reason, they set the city"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "ablaze and walked away, leaving behind"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "only ruins and questions. In the early"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "1980s, a team of American researchers"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "arrived at the edge of the Sahara Desert"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "in Algeria. Up ahead was nothing but"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "rolling sand dunes stretching as far as"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the eye could see. And the team had"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "hired local guides from the nearby town"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "of Timmyoon to take them deep into the"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Toout Desert region. What they were"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "looking for wasn't much more than a"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "rumor. somewhere out there, supposedly"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "an ancient fortress, and no one knew who"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "built it or why. Now, even though they'd"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "been paid good money, the guys that the"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "researchers hired hesitated to take them"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "any further. I mean, this is one of the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "harshest environments on the planet. But"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "the Americans insisted and they headed"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "out into the Sahara. And soon the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "determination paid off because as they"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "crested this massive sand dune, one of"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "the guides pointed ahead and shouted"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "something in Arabic. And sure enough,"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "there rising up from the sand about 32"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "ft high was their destination, the Casar"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Draw, also known as the Timmyoon"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "Fortress. Now, even from the distance,"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "researchers could tell that this"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "structure was different from anything"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "else they'd studied in the region. Most"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "fortified villages like this were built"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "in mountainous areas for defense, and"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "they were all pretty much the same. They"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "all had attached houses clustered"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "together along with mosques, baths,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "ovens, and shops. But this fortress was"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "pretty different. I mean, for starters,"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "it was completely circular, nearly 200"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "ft in diameter, and it was out here in"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "the middle of nowhere all by itself."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "Now, I should mention that this team"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "wasn't the first to have visited Casar"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "Dra, but nothing they'd heard could have"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "prepared them for how this place"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "actually looked because as they got"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "closer, they began noticing that these"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "little details that did not add up. I"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "mean, the walls of the place were double"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "layered with a clay wall on the inside"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "and a wall of stones covering the clay"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "on the outside. The weird thing though"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "was there weren't any windows facing"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "outward. not a single one. And you'd"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "think that you'd want to see outside"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "your fortress, right? But there wasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "any way to do that. The only original"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "opening was the single entrance on the"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "northern side. So, as they get to the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "entrance, the hand of the team turns to"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "one of their guides and asks him to"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "remind him when this thing was built."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "And the guy just shrugs and says that"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "nobody knows for sure, 30 Generations or"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "something like that, which means it must"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "have been built somewhere around the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "1300s. But again, that's all guesswork"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "because the true history of the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "structure had been lost over time. That"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "was when the head of the team finally"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "let the cat out of the bag. He made a"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "very unusual request and he asked the"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "guides to leave him and his team there"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "for an entire week. Now, when they heard"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "this, the guides were obviously very"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "shocked. They just tried to tell him how"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "dangerous it was to be out here all"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "alone. But the team lead assured the"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "guide that they'd be fine. I mean, after"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "all, they had the supplies, they had the"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "equipment, and everything they needed."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "The guides eventually left, and they"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "agreed to return in one week's time."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "Now, right away, researchers got to"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "work. They headed through that single"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "entrance and found themselves in this"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "ancient courtyard, and it was easier to"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "see how this place was constructed. I"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "mean, looking up, they could see that"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "all the rooms had been built across"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "three different levels between two"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "walls. But the thing that nobody figured"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "out was exactly how people were supposed"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "to get up there. It wasn't just that the"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "access points had fallen into ruins."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "There wasn't any way to get up there,"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "and it looked like there never had been."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "There weren't any visible staircases"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "connecting the levels. There weren't any"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "stairs or ramps either. It just didn't"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "make sense. This was just the start of"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "their investigations, though, because as"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "they explored further, they discovered"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "something even weirder. Now, as it"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "turned out, none of the rooms connected"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "to each other. Each section was"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "completely isolated. And if you were in"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "one room, you couldn't get to another"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "room without going all the way back out"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "into the courtyard. That doesn't seem"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "very safe for a place that's supposed to"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "be a fortress, does it? It's like"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "whoever built this place deliberately"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "wanted to keep people separated. Well,"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "that first night, the team starts"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "kicking around theories. And one of them"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "suggests that maybe Casar Draw wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "fortress at all. Maybe this was a sort"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "of way station. A desert inn where"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "travelers could stop along trade routes."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "Known commonly as caravans were pretty"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "common in this part of the Sahara. A"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "long time ago, they were used to control"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "the movement of caravans and collect"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "taxes from travelers. Some even had"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "libraries. The only problem though is if"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "the Casar draw was a caravan surai, none"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "of its architecture matched the other"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "ones that archaeologists had excavated."}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "So after hitting this dead end, one of"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "the other researchers speaks up and"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "suggests that maybe this place was a"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "military outpost. But again, even that"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "doesn't check all the boxes. None of"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "this is making sense. Who builds a"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "fortress without windows for defense?"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "And then there's the whole issue of the"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "rooms and being isolated. So then they"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "think, \"Hey, isolated rooms, this must"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "be a prison, right?\" Well, as the days"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "passed, the team continued their"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "investigation, and their theories"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "continued. The best they could figure"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "was that removable ladders must have"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "been used to access the different"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "levels. That might explain the lack of"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "stairs. But it still didn't tell them"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "why Casar Draw had been built in the"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "first place. But then on their fourth"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "day there, one of the researchers made a"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "discovery that changed everything. You"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "see, on one of the interior walls hidden"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "by centuries of dust and sand, they"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "found a series of partially eroded"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "symbols. One of them looked like a"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "six-pointed star. Others looked a little"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "bit more recognizable. They seem to be"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "ancient Jewish symbols. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "discovery opened up a whole new line of"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "thinking. The team knew that Jews had"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "lived in the area since the first"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "century when they'd fled persecution"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "from the Roman Emperor Traan. And"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "according to historical documents from"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "the 1440s, the Jewish community had been"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "involved in transaharan trade here at"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "this location. Well, eventually conflict"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "broke out between this community and the"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "locals, resulting in bloodshed around"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "1492."}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "So, folks, could this fortress have been"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "a refuge for the Jewish community, a"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "place where they sought shelter? Whether"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "or not Casar served as a hideout didn't"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "really matter because it didn't tell"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "them who built this place to begin with."}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "And so soon enough, the end of the week"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "came and the guides returned just like"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "they said they would and they asked if"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "the researchers had learned anything."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "The team of course just rambled and"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "argued and all the guides could do was"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "just nod because they knew all along"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "that the Casard draw wasn't going to"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "ever give up its secrets too easily."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Nowadays, Casarra still sits in the"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "middle of the Sahara. It remains one of"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "the best preserved forts in the region,"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "but also one of the most mysterious"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "because no one, not the locals, nor the"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "archaeological community, has a good"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "idea of how it came to be there or what"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "it was really used for. And in another"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "700 years, it will probably still be"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "there, waiting for someone to finally"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "unlock its secrets. In December of 2004,"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "a man named Terry and his friend Andy"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "were traveling the back roads of New"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Zealand. Their trip had taken them deep"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "into the Kaimanow forest down this"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "remote dirt road. And after about 7"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "miles, Andy was starting to wonder what"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "the heck they were doing out there. But"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "Terry wasn't lost. He was searching for"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "something that, according to official"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "records, didn't exist. Now, at this"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "point, even Terry has to admit that it"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "seems to be taking a while because now"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "it feels like they're getting further"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "and further away from civilization. He"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "figures that they must be somewhere"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "southeast of Lake Talpo by now. But"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "Terry's determined to find this place."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "And so, the two of them keep their eyes"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "glued to the side of the road, waiting"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "for the first sign of anything unusual"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "to pop out of the thick vegetation. Now,"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "because what they're looking for has no"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "signs, markers, or anything else to"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "indicate it's there, they almost miss"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "it. But Andy's eyes light up at the last"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "minute, and he points to it. It's right"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "up ahead. There's a stone structure"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "that's poking through the underbrush,"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "and that must be it. So, Terry pulls"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "over, you know, they both get out of"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "their car, and they start making their"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "way through the forest towards this"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "structure. Terry's getting excited. You"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "know, his heart's racing. He's just, \"We"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "found it.\" This is a bucket list item"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "for him. But even though he knows what"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "to expect, he still can't believe what"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "it is they're seeing. Right there in"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "front of them is what appears to be this"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "massive stone surface made up of these"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "huge rectangular blocks 6 ft wide, which"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "about 5t tall. And each of these has"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "perfectly straight lines running both"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "horizontally. This is vertical actually,"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "horizontally and vertically, all fitting"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "together perfectly in a grid like you'd"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "expect for any other ancient building."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "And so Terry and Andy, they're just"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "standing there. They're taking it all"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "in. They're just, wow, they're in"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "amazement. And you know, even though"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "there's a lot of moss hiding a lot of"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "the surface, there's a big tree that's"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "growing out of the top. And the"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "precision with which these blocks have"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "been arranged is obvious. The corners"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "are symmetrical. Each one fits together"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "perfectly with flat ends, and they're"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "all placed in levels going up and back"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "into the side of the hill. Terry just"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "leans down for a closer look, and he"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "realizes that right here, he could see"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "deeper into the crevice between two of"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "the blocks. Now, obviously, he's shocked"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "by this because he can clearly see the"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "uniformity of these blocks, which"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "continues all the way inside. Nice and"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "square, straight lines all the way in."}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "Now, folks, this is not an optical"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "illusion. There's no denying what it"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "looks like. It looks like an enormous"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "man-made stone wall in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "New Zealand forest. This is like"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "something you'd see on Easter Island."}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "clear obvious evidence of an ancient"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "culture with sophisticated knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "stonework. There's one glaring problem."}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "According to experts, this formation is"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "completely natural. The structure known"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "as Kimono wall has been one of the most"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "controversial archaeological topics in"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "New Zealand for nearly three decades"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "now. And the story of how this wall was"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "discovered, what it might mean, and why"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "it's been essentially hidden from the"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "public is even more bizarre than the"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "wall itself. And in fact, it all started"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "in the early 1990s when a researcher"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "named Barry Brailles Ford was"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "investigating stories about ancient"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "structures in New Zealand. Now, at the"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "time, he had heard about rumors and"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "strange formations in the Kimono forest,"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "and he was determined to get to the"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "bottom of it and find them. So when he"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "finally located and examined the Kimono"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "wallal wall himself, he was convinced"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "he'd found something extraordinary."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "Barry went public and in 1996, he"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "actually published an article that"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "challenged everything we thought we knew"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "about New Zealand's history. He claimed"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "that the wall was at least 2,000 years"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "old. As for whoever built it, Barry"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "believed that it had been built by a"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "people called Whitaha. Now, we know that"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "the Mauy tribes by this name existed,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "and in fact, they're tribal members that"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "identify by this name today, but Barry"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "claimed that his version of the Whitaha"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "were distinct. He said that these people"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "were New Zealand's actual first"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "settlers, arriving way before the Mauy."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "And as if this idea wasn't controversial"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "enough, Barry went on to say that the"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "Kimono wall provided a clear connection"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "between New Zealand and ancient"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "civilizations just like those in Egypt"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "and South America. He said that the"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "Widaha had been nearly exterminated by"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "the Mauy when they arrived and that this"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "wall was some of the last remaining"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "evidence of their lost civilization."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "Interestingly, Barry went on to provide"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "12 different places of evidence for why"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "he believed the wall was artificially"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "constructed. But honestly, we don't need"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "to go through all of those because I"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "mean, just look at the thing. It looks"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "like a wall. We don't have to buy his"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "entire WhiteA idea to say that much. But"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "either way, this article of berries"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "caused an immediate uproar. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "people began flocking to the Kaimanow"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "forest just to see this mysterious wall"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "with their own eyes. Some came away"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "convinced that it was evidence of a lost"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "civilization, but many others weren't so"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "convinced. But everyone did agree on one"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "thing, that this structure was unlike"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "anything else in New Zealand. So maybe"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "the Mouri people built the wall. Well,"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "the problem is that when the Mouri built"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "things with stone, they never built"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "anything quite like this. In fact, their"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "traditional structures are mostly made"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "of wood and other organic materials. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "if the wall is man-made, then who built"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "it? And why is it sitting unmarked in a"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "forest? And why aren't there any other"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "ancient structures nearby? As sightseers"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "came and went, the controversy"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "eventually grew so intense, authorities"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "actually banned public access to the"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "entire area. They said it was for safety"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "reasons, but you know how this goes,"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "right? Now, there was a conspiracy sh to"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "hide the truth about the wall. Now, in"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "the meantime, New Zealand's scientific"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "community, they decided to settle the"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "matter once and for all. And so, they"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "got a team of archaeologist and"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "geologist to finally go out to the area"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "and examine it. And the plan was to"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "honestly evaluate the site and put to"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "rest once and for all whether it was"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "natural or artificial. The scientists"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "focused on the joints between the blocks"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "and they noticed matching micro"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "irregularities along the joints, which"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "is just a fancy way of saying that there"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "were tiny imperfections that lined up"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "perfectly between adjacent blocks. They"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "fit together at a microscopic level."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "Essentially, the study also put to bed"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "the idea that the joints were perfectly"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "straight. They only look that way from a"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "distance. In reality, they're pretty"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "uneven. So for researchers, all of this"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "pointed to the likelihood that these"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "stones were actually not man-made."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "Stonework would have left tool marks on"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "the blocks, but there weren't any, and"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "no tools would have mirrored those micro"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "irregularities on blocks that were next"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "to each other. On the other hand, a"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "large chunk of stone that had fractured"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "would show those matching imperfections."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "In fact, the researchers argued that's"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "exactly what you'd expect to see. So"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "what kind of rock did the scientists say"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "it was? Geologists identified the rock"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "as something called jointed rangataki"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "ignbrite. Want that translated? Ignite"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "is a type of volcanic rock formed when"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "volcanic ash and debris settle and then"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "compact after an eruption. And Rangotaki"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "ignite is specific to the Talpo volcanic"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "zone, which puts this so-called wall at"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "around 330,000"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "years old. Now this type of rock is"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "important because being volcanic as you"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "guys know it cools after it forms and"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "according to geologists when it does"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "cool it contracts and then sometimes"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "makes these very regular fracture"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "patterns. In other words exactly the"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "kind of vertical and horizontal joints"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "that you see on the wall. Now the"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "official conclusion was definitive. The"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "kimono wall was not made by people. The"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "government officially designated it a"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "natural rock formation and put up signs"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "warning that it was illegal to interfere"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "with or damage natural features on"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "public conservation land. But as you"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "guys know, and probably while you're"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "watching this, not everybody accepted"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "the explanation. Alternative historians,"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "something that I recently learned what"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "they're called, point out that no other"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "Ignite formations in New Zealand look"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "like this one. They're very unique. The"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "blocks are very precise, too precise."}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "They fit together too well. And the wall"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "faces perfectly to the north. And we all"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "know that a lot of ancient cultures were"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "obsessed with cardinal directions and"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "star alignments. Why is that? Well,"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "that's for another video. Now, to"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "further support their theories, these"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "researchers see an obvious motive to"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "discredit the wall, and they say that"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "revealing the truth behind it would"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "append New Zealand's history. According"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "to alternative historians, admitting"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "that the wall is artificial would mean"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "admitting that New Zealand's history is"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "completely different than what we've"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "been taught. It would mean that an"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "ancient civilization existed in New"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "Zealand thousands of years ago. So, what"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "do you think? Natural or man-made? I"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "mean, it's one thing to sit back and"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "offer your opinion, but according to"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "those who have visited the Kimono wall,"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "it's something else to run your hands"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "along those straight joints and"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "symmetrical corners. I mean, it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "look natural and it doesn't feel"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "natural. But either way, in the end, the"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "controversy will continue. Just like in"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "any controversial subject, both sides"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "believe they're right and they will both"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "die on that hill, which for you and I"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "sucks because it means we'll never know"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "the truth. Unfortunately, folks, all of"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "it, everything we talked about today"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "remains a mystery. And because you guys"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "made it to the very end of the video, I"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "want you to all comment down below who"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "made that. So that way I know who made"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "it to the end and who didn't. And if you"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "guys enjoy content like this where we"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "content just like this. As always, never"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "forget I love you all and I'll see you"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "all in the very next episode."}]

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In 1975, a"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "young family had just moved into a new"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "home in Whithlashure, England. The"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "community Hillrest Park seemed like the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "perfect place for raising a small"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "family. And this family already"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "consisted of a married couple and their"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "two young sons. Now, when they first"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "moved in, everything seemed relatively"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "mundane. I mean, the trailer park was"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "pretty average. It was quiet. 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However, after they'd been living"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "there for just a few weeks, some of"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "their neighbors started making odd"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "comments. One elderly woman who lived"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "just a few plots down pulled Barbara"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "aside one day while she was hanging"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "laundry and basically told her that she"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "needed to be careful living in their"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "spot, which was plot 73. Well, Barbara"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "was thinking of juvenile delinquents or"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "crime or something to that effect. So"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "when Barbara asked what she meant, she"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "was surprised to see that the woman just"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "shook her head and then walked away. Now"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "obviously Barbara wasn't really sure"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "what to make of it, so she kind of just"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "let it go. But this woman kept making"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "these odd comments here and there, and"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "it really kept grabbing at her"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "attention, like warnings mostly. But in"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the end, she couldn't really get much"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "information, no matter how much she"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "pried. So she just ended up forgetting"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "all of it. But then 2 months after they"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "had moved in, their 7-year-old son,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "Leon, started experiencing something"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "truly bizarre. Now, the first time it"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "happened, Leon woke up in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the night. Leon had gone to sleep on his"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "right side facing the wall with his"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "blanket tucked under his chin just the"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "way he liked it. But when he woke up, he"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "was now on his left side facing the room"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "and his blanket was down by his waist."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "He figured that he must have just moved"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "in his sleep even though he's never been"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "much of a restless sleeper. So he's"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "like, \"Wow, I can't believe I moved that"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "much.\" And so he pulled the covers and"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "readjusted and went back to sleep. But"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "then on the next night, it happened"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "again. And it happened again the night"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "after that. He would find himself having"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "to readjust so much that it just seemed"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "strange. 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All of a sudden, he feels"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "this heavy pressure against his back,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "like he's sharing the bed with someone,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "like there's another small body pressed"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "right up against him in bed. For him, it"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "feels like there's another kid lying"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "there spooning him from behind. and he"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "starts freaking out. His heart's racing"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "and because he knows that his brother is"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "asleep in the next room. Unsure of what"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "to do, he just cries out for his"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "parents, but to his surprise,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "he can't make a sound. His mouth opens,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "but nothing can come out. It's like his"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "voice has been stolen. And all of a"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "sudden, the pressure against his back,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "it lifts, and whatever was pressed up"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "against him is now gone. Leon has this"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "brief moment where he thinks that he's"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "safe, but that's when some movement"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "catches his attention out of the corner"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "of his eye. And he looks and there's"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "something over by the lamp on his"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "bedside table. And there, clustered"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "around the lamp, are these three small"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "figures, no bigger than dolls. And he"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "can't really think of a better way to"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "describe what he's seeing than to say"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "that the first thing that came to his"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "mind were these are goblins complete"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "with wrinkled faces and pointed ears"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "wearing ridiculous purple waste coats"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and pointed caps. I mean, if it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "so frightening, he might have laughed,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "but he was terrified. He's the butt of"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "some sick joke because it's these things"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "that are laughing and the three of them"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "are pointing at him and they're not"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "laughing in a happy way either. They're"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "giggling in this high-pitched,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "mischievous, nefarious way. And Leon's"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "skin is crawling. He's terrified. He"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "knows that they're going to hurt him in"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "some way. And keep in mind that this"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "poor kid is frozen to his bed. He can't"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "move. All he can do is just watch as"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "these things start fluttering around his"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "lamp. And they're kind of dancing and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "spinning in the air as if they have"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "invisible wings. And they occasionally"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "look down at Leon and they laugh even"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "harder as if they're just feeding off of"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "his fear. Leon again tries to scream for"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "help, but he can't bring himself to"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "actually push air through his vocal"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "cords. There's nothing that comes out."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "He is completely paralyzed and he's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "forced to watch this horrible scene in"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "front of him. And all of a sudden, they"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "just disappear. And when that happens,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "he's relieved to discover that he could"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "move and speak again. And he immediately"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "jumped out of bed, ran to his parents'"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "room, and this kid is just sobbing. And"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "he's trying to explain what happened."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Barbara and Noel didn't really know what"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "to make of their son's behavior, but"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "they were very, very concerned because"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "this kid didn't just have a nightmare. I"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "mean, he was traumatized by whatever"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "happened, but because of the nature of"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "it, they just assumed that he'd had a"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "very vivid nightmare. And, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "they let him sleep in their bed that"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "night and figured that would be the end"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "of it. Now, a week after that, Barbara"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "was kind of dozing off in the front room"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "one evening. And in the meantime, Noel"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "was trying to put the boys to bed, and"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "she was kind of in that state between"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "waking and sleeping where you're still"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "aware of your surroundings, but, you"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "know, you're starting to drift off. and"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "the television was on low and it kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "provided this nice gentle background,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "but she suddenly became aware that"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "somebody else was in the room with her"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and it wasn't one of her family members"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "either. And so instantly she's on full"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "alert. And she was shocked to see that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "there's this elderly woman standing just"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "a few feet away and not anyone she"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "recognized because whoever this woman"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "was was dressed entirely in black, you"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "know, with oldfashioned clothing that"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "looked like it belonged in another"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "century of some kind. Her face looked"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "pale and wrinkled, and her eyes just"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "seemed to look right through Barbara."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Not really knowing what to do or how to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "assess the situation further, Barbara"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "just sat right up. And she was about to"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "ask the woman who she was and how she'd"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "gotten in. But the woman spoke first."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "And her voice was cold and detached and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "raspy. And the woman just said to"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Barbara, \"This looks like a nice place."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "I could live here.\" And it was a very"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "odd thing to say. But before Barbara"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "could respond at all, the woman kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "just turned and started shuffling toward"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the bedroom. And she jumps to follow the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "strange intruder to say something to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "stop her. Right as she's getting up, the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "woman reaches the doorway. Her body kind"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "of just dissolves into this thick mist,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "this thick gray mist, and the cloud of"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "it swirls and coils through the air, and"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "it moves with purpose toward the front"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "door. And Barb is watching in absolute"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "horror as this mist kind of just"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "squeezes and funnels itself through the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "letter box on the door and then"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "disappears into the night. Barbara is"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "left standing there. She's shocked."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "She's not really sure what to even think"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "or what to do about this. As a matter of"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "fact, she was still very pale and"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "shaking when Noel came around the corner"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "after putting the boys to bed. And he's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "like, \"What on earth happened to you?\""}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Unlike Leon's experience, Noel could"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "tell that Barbara wasn't describing a"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "dream. She was wide awake when the mist"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "disappeared. It was at this point that"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Barbara had decided that she'd had"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "enough. So, I want you guys to remember"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "all those comments from the neighbors."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Well, she wasn't going to let them dodge"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "her questions any longer. So, when she"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "happened to see her elderly neighbor"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "outside one day, you know, the one who"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "had first warned her, she asked, \"What"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "the heck is wrong with this place?\" It"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "took some convincing, but eventually she"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "and other neighbors finally opened up."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "They mentioned something about strange"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "lights that people had seen in empty"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "trailers at night. Particularly a blue"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "light that seemed to move on its own."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Another neighbor who lived near the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "entrance of the park had a really"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "unsettling story. He told Barbara and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "Noel that about a year earlier, a woman"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "who had lived in the park claimed she"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "kept seeing the ghost of a cavalier from"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the English Civil War walking through"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "her trailer. She became so insistent"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "about it that her family eventually had"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "her committed to an asylum. Now, if she"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "had heard these stories when they first"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "arrived, she wouldn't have taken any of"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "them seriously. But now, well, things"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "have changed. As if to drive home the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "reality of their neighbors claims, the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "family's experiences only escalated."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Leyon continued waking up in different"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "positions with a sensation of something"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "against him. And in fact, this became a"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "regular occurrence. Sometimes he would"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "see these horrific looking goblin"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "creatures. Other times he wouldn't. But"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "he always felt their presence looming"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "around. And it got so bad that he began"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "refusing to sleep in his own room. But"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "even when he slept on the couch or in"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "his parents' room, the experiences"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "seemed to follow him. And he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "alone either because his mother,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "Barbara, began seeing that old woman"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "more frequently. You know, sometimes"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "she'd appear in the kitchen while"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Barbara was cooking. Other times she'd"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "be standing in the hallway when Barbara"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "got up to use the bathroom at night, and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the woman never said anything else. But"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "she'd always just stare at Barbara with"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "these kind of hollow dead eyes before"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "dissolving into mist and escaping"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "through whatever crack or crevice that"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "she could find. Now, as far as Noel,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Barbara's husband, he had been very"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "skeptical at first, but soon he had his"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "own stories to tell. He'd hear footsteps"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "in the trailer while everybody was"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "asleep. You know, doors would open and"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "close on their own. And one night, he"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "even saw the blue light that their"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "neighbors had warned them about floating"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "past their window like some kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "supernatural search light. Desperate,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "the family tried everything they could"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "think of. They had the trailer blessed"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "by a priest. They burned sage. They even"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "tried sleeping in shifts, so somebody"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "was always awake to watch for these"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "entities. But nothing worked. If"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "anything, their efforts just seem to"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "make things worse. So finally after 6"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "months of living like this, they decided"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "they couldn't do it anymore. They had"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "had enough. They broke their lease. They"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "packed up their belongings and they"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "moved out of the trailer park. Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "after they left, they decided to do some"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "research into the history of the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "community and their plot number 73. And"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "what they learned chilled them to the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "bone. It turned out that their plot was"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "the exact spot where a small cottage"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "once stood in the 1600s. And during the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "English Civil War, a family of royalist"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "sympathizers had lived in that cottage."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "When parliamentarian soldiers came"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "through the area, they accused the"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "family of hiding cavalier soldiers. The"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "soldiers burned the cottage to the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "ground with the family still inside. The"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "only survivor was an elderly woman who"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "had been out gathering herbs and she"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "returned to find her home in ashes and"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "her family, including children, dead."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Now, there's legends around that area"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that say that she died of grief on that"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "very spot, cursing anyone who would ever"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "live there again. Well, when Barbara and"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "her family learned about this, she felt"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "like she'd been punched right in the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "gut. Could this have been the old woman"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "she had seen? And as for the goblin-like"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "creatures that terrorized Lyon, there's"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "belief that these were the spirits of"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the three children who had died in the"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "fire. Their playful, mischievous"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "behavior in life had been twisted by"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "their violent deaths into something far"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "more nefarious and sinister."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Interestingly, a lot of the older"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "folklore from Western Europe draws very"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "strong connections between fairies,"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "goblins, and the dead. So, this is very"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "consistent in that regard, which is even"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "more terrifying. And unfortunately, from"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "that day forward, the family rarely"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "spoke publicly about their experiences"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "at Hillrest Trailer Park. They moved to"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "a different town entirely and tried to"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "put the whole ordeal behind them. But"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "the truth behind everything, well,"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "remain a mystery. Early one morning in"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "October of 2021, a young woman named"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Jordan was lying on a sofa bed in the"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "lounge of a luxury spa. This was the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "first night of a big celebration with"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "her five friends. Jordan's group had"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "decided to commemorate her friend's"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "one-year anniversary of being in"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "remission from cancer. To celebrate,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "they had picked the Titanic Spa in"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Lenweight, UK, which was built in a"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "converted 16th century mill. They'd"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "spent the previous day getting massages,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "sitting in saunas, and relaxing. Only"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "one thing was a disappointment. Jordan"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "had drawn the shortest straw when it"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "came to sleeping arrangements. So, while"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "her friends got proper beds in the"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "bedrooms, she and one other girl were on"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the sofa beds in the lounge. But Jordan"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "didn't mind because she was just happy"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "to be there with her friends. But for"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "some reason, she was tossing and turning"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "and it was sometime between 5 and 6:00"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "in the morning. Everything was dead"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "quiet. And so she's just lying there"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "thinking about her trip when she feels"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "this light tickle on the back of her"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "arm. Now, naturally, Jordan thought it"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "was just her hair at first, or maybe a"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "draft, but then she feels it again. And"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "this time, it seems more deliberate,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "like something was actually touching"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "her. When she realizes this, her eyes"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "snap open. And even though the room's"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "still dark, she could sense that"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "something isn't right. And there's"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "actually just enough light filtering in"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "the room from somewhere that she could"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "make out distinct shapes. And as she's"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "lying there, her body starts to lock up"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "and she notices she can't move the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "shapes. She could see that there's well,"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "it's clearly something. And she's"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "adjusting her eyes more and she's"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "focusing and she realizes these aren't"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "shapes, but a single shape and it's"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "behind the sofa and it looks like the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "top half of a head. like someone short"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "is kind of peeking up from behind the"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "back of the sofa, which is only about"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "two feet off the ground. Now, even"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "though this is what it looks like, she"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "still thinks that she just has to be"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "seeing things. This can't be right."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Maybe it's a shadow there. There has to"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "be an explanation. Now, all of this is"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "unfolding over the course of several"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "seconds, obviously, because of how fast"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "our eyes adjust to the light. But, as"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "this is happening, she could start to"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "make out more details. This is a head,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "but it's a small head. I mean, maybe the"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "size of a toddler's, but that's where"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "all similarities end because this is"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "clearly no child. The skin, from what"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "she could see, is like this silvery gray"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "color with this weird shine to it. The"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "mouth takes up almost half of its face,"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "and inside are very prominent teeth."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Further up are these eyes set so far"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "back they almost look like shadows. And"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "above those, sprouting from the top of"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "its head are individual strands of this"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "nasty black hair. She is so overcome"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "with fear and terror, she's just frozen."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "She can't even do anything. At some"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "point, she musters up enough strength to"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "let out a scream that wakes up the other"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "girl in the room. And when that happens,"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "you know, the lights flick on and in"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "that instant, whatever this was was"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "gone. I mean, there's nothing behind the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "sofa. And there's no sign of that"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "anyone's even been there at all."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Jordan's friend, who's now very"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "concerned about her, is asking her"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "what's wrong? What what did you see?"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "What's happening? And Jordan is very"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "upset. And she just tried her best to"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "explain what happened. But even as she's"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "recounting it and the words are coming"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "out of her mouth, she just it's it"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "sounds crazy, right? Like what what I"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "saw a goblin in a luxury spa. And she"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "realizes the other girl probably thinks"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "she just had a terrible nightmare. I"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "mean, even afterwards, Jordan is"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "starting to question her sanity, and"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "she's starting to wonder the same thing."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "But gosh, it was so flipping vivid. And,"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "you know, to make her feel better, they"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "decide, look, you know, you clearly saw"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "something and it really bothered you, so"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "let's let's go ahead and search the"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "room. And they get up and they're"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "looking behind the sofa and they look in"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "the corner, but obviously, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "there's nothing there. So, eventually"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "after not finding anything, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "she comforts Jordan again and they just"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "try to go back to sleep. But after this,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Jordan can barely close her eyes until"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "sunrise. Eventually, when she got back"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "home to West Yorkshire, just a couple of"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "days later, she just felt so exhausted,"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "so drained, like whatever she had saw"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "zapped her of energy. So much so that"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "she ended up being so ill that she was"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "literally bedridden for about a week."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "Now, keep in mind, she had never seen"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "anything like this. She had never"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "experienced anything like this. She just"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "kept convincing herself that this is all"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "just stress related from the trip, that"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "this has all gone to her head. You know,"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "maybe she'd picked up a bug or"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "something. But it wasn't too long after"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "all of this that strange things began"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "happening at her own house. At the time,"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Jordan lived with her in-laws along with"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "her partner, and it was a full house"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "with four people, and usually there's"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "always somebody around, but the weird"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "occurrences only seem to happen to just"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "Jordan. Now, at first they started off"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "small. You know, she'd be walking"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "through the house and she'd catch"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "movement in her peripheral vision,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "always down near the floor, and you"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "know, when she turned to look, nothing"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "was there. She's thinking that her"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "imagination is just getting the best of"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "her, that she's going crazy, and that"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "she's still spooked from what happened"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "at the spa. But then things start"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "escalating. Now, one morning, she went"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "to grab her phone and she couldn't find"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "it anywhere. And she's thinking, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "this is weird. I always keep my phone"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "right here.\" And so, you know, she"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "searched the entire house and she's"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "gradually getting more frustrated and"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "finally on a whim, for whatever reason,"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "she checked the refrigerator and there"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "it was sitting on the shelf next to the"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "milk. Now, of course, she had no memory"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "of putting it there, nor had she ever"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "done anything like that before. And"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "next, she noticed that objects around"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "the house would fall over whenever she"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "walked by. Even things that had been"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "sitting securely on tables or shelves"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "for weeks, untouched, just fall over."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Weird, right? And there was this pile of"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "towels on the table that fell off so"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "many times that Jordan finally just left"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "them on the floor. She wasn't going to"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "try and fight whatever universal force"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "this was. One day, Jordan was doing"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "laundry when she reached into a pile of"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "clothes and felt something weird. It was"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "something kind of squishy and fuzzy. And"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "when she pulled her hand back, she found"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "a bat. Like an actual bat, like an"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "animal tangled up in her clothing, you"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "know. So, she screamed just out of shock"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "and dropped everything. But by the time"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "her in-laws came in to see what she was"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "screaming about, the bat was just gone,"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "having flown off to some other corner of"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "the house. Now, at this point, she is"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "seriously doubting her sanity. She is"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "convinced that there's something wrong"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "with her, that she's mentally ill, that"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "there's just something wrong. And so,"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "the first thing she looked into was that"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "the house had a carbon monoxide alarm."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "She knew that, well, that's not it. She"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "tried to look in other places, but she"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "couldn't really find much. And easily,"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "the strangest part about all of this was"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "that nobody else in the house had any of"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "these experiences. It was only happening"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "to her. Fortunately, she found some"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "confirmation at some point that she"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "wasn't crazy from her best friend, a"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "little dash hound named Wendy. Now,"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "before the trip, the dog was her"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "constant companion, following her"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "everywhere. But now, Wendy was acting"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "strange, too. She started growling in"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "empty rooms or from under the covers for"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "no apparent reason. Well, things"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "continued like this until one night"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "Jordan took Wendy out to the garden to,"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "you know, go potty. And this was part of"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "their nightly routine, as it is with"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "many people with dogs. Now, the garden"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "backed up to a field with a fence about"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "5 and 1/2 ft tall that separated them."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "And alongside the fence, there was this"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "little table where Jordan's in-laws"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "would put out peanuts for the birds. On"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "this night, Jordan was standing there in"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "the garden waiting for Wendy to do her"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "business. And all of a sudden, Wendy"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "just starts growling and and she's"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "growling at something over by the peanut"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "table. You know, Jordan looked over"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "expecting there to be a stray cat or a"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "dog or something, but there's clearly"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "nothing there. So, she's like, \"What?\""}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "She did, however, hear something. Now,"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "it took her a moment to register what"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "was causing that, but there by her feet"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "was a pile of peanuts. And as she"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "watched, another one landed on the"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "ground. She obviously froze because"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "peanuts had to be coming from the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "direction of the fence. So, she slowly"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "turned to look. Her jaw dropped because"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "there reaching over the top of the fence"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "was a small muscular arm. I mean maybe"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "seven or eight inches long. And she"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "watched as it grabbed some peanuts from"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "the table and threw them in her"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "direction. Odd enough. But what really"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "made her blood run cold was the skin"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "because it was clearly the same silvery"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "gray shiny skin that she'd seen on the"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "creature back at the spa. She did not"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "need to see anymore. She knew what this"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "was. She grabbed Wendy, ran back into"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "the house, slammed the door behind her."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "She knew that whatever she'd seen at the"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "spa had now followed her back home. And"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "these strange occurrences ended up"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "continuing for weeks on end. Jordan"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "would see what she thought was Wendy"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "going into the bathroom only to find the"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "dog asleep in a completely different"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "room. Door handles would shake violently"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "when nobody was on the other side. And"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "always, always there were those glimpses"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "of movement near the floor just out of"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "sight. Now, during this, she kind of"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "kept these experiences bottled up"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "because she knew how crazy it sounded,"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "but she could not deny it anymore. And"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "so, finally, in early December, she was"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "out doing some Christmas shopping at"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "another old mill that had been converted"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "into a shop. And she was browsing"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "through a store when an older woman"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "approached her. Now, the woman looked at"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "Jordan with this knowing expression and"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "stated matterof factly that Jordan had"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "something attached to her. Not only was"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "Jordan taken aback and clearly stunned"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "because she had never seen this woman"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "before, she didn't know who she was, but"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "there's something about the way she"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "carried herself and said it to Jordan"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "that just made her break down. She found"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "herself telling the stranger everything."}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "And the woman kind of just listened and"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "just nodded matterofactly. When Jordan"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "was finished, she explained to her that"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "a low vibrational spiritual entity had"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "attached itself to her at that spa. And"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "now it was feeding off of Jordan's fear."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "She was instructed to do a cleansing"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "ritual to get a white candle, open all"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "the windows in her house, light it, and"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "walk through each room telling the"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "entity it wasn't welcome. And she should"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "say things like she was filling her life"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "with love and light and that the entity"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "was not welcome there. But the most"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "important thing she told Jordan was to"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "let the candle burn out naturally. Do"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "not blow it out. Only close the windows"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "after the candle is completely done."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "Jordan, who was beyond desperate, was"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "going to try anything. So, she went"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "home. She found a white candle, and just"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "like the stranger instructed, she opened"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "all the windows, even though it was"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "freezing because this was December. And"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "when that was done, she lit the candle."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "She walked through the house, repeating"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "the phrases the woman had told her, and"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "something strange happened. When she got"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "to the living room, her head suddenly"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "fell back, and her jaw went slack,"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "almost like something was leaving her"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "body. Now, it only lasted a second, but"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "she felt this incredible sense of relief"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "wash over her. Now, after that, she"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "continued through the rest of the house."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "And when the candle finally burned out,"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "she closed all the windows. And just"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "like that, folks, it was over. But just"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "because of the nature of what she went"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "through, she did not talk about these"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "events for 3 years. And eventually she"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "began sharing her experiences online"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "with others, comparing the creature, the"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "thing that she saw, to Gollum from Lord"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "of the Rings. Now, shockingly, she was"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "not alone because people from Iceland"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "and Mexico reached out saying that they"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "too had seen very similar, almost"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "identical creatures. Now, to this day,"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "Jor does not know exactly what it was or"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "why it attached itself to her, but she"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "knows that it was very real, and it's"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "made her much more aware of the very"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "thin veil between our world and whatever"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "else is out there. One night in 2003, a"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "young girl named Patty was sleeping on"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "the top bunk of her bed when she"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "suddenly woke up. It was the middle of"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "the night, but somehow she'd hit her leg"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "against something, and the sharp pain"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "had jolted her awake. But as she lay"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "there in the darkness, waiting for the"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "pain to subside, she had no idea that"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "what she was about to experience would"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "haunt her for the rest of her life."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Patty lived with her parents and her two"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "sisters in a very modest home. The three"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "girls all shared one bedroom, which was"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "cramped but relatively cozy. There were"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "two sets of bunk beds. Patty slept on"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "the top one. Her little sister slept on"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "the bottom. Her other sister had her own"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "bunk bed in the opposite corner of the"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "room. Now, the layout of this room was a"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "bit unusual, but it's important to"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "understand the story. Now, Patty's bed"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "was positioned parallel to the door,"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "sandwiched between a regular wall on one"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "side, and what they called a cubbyhole"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "wall on the other. In other words, a"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "partial wall that only extended about a"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "quarter of her bed's length. This meant"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "that from her position up on the top"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "bunk, she had a clear view across the"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "room to where her other sister's bed"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "stood in the corner. In the middle of"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "the room between the two beds were a"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "couple of wardrobes where the girls kept"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "their clothing. Now, even though Patty"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "was still quite young, she'd already"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "noticed something strange about this"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "bedroom. When she and her sisters were"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "playing in other parts of the house,"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "they got along great. They laughed, they"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "played games, everything was normal. But"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "the moment they entered their bedroom,"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "everything changed. They'd instantly"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "become irritable with each other. They'd"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "fight over nothing. It was like that"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "bedroom brought out the worst in them."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "And it wasn't just their behavior that"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "was affected. Patty had been having"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "terrible nightmares, too, ever since"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "they'd moved into this place. And"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "sometimes they were so bad that she"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "would wake up gasping for air. Just a"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "few weeks earlier, she'd had such a"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "severe asthma attack in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "the night that she had actually stopped"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "breathing. Her parents had to rush her"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "to the hospital where the doctors"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "fortunately managed to save her life and"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "they said it was just asthma. But Patty"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "couldn't shake the feeling that there"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "was something about the room and the"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "nightmares that was making her very,"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "very sick. So on this particular night,"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "as Patty is lying there in the dark"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "nursing her sore leg, she's already a"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "little on edge. The room's quiet except"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "for her sister's breathing and there's"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "moonlight coming through the window, but"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "she's starting to see really strange"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "shadows. Like there's this one down by"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "the foot of the bed that looks way too"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "out of place. And then Patty realizes"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "that that's not ordinary. There at the"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "foot of her bed, right there in the"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "narrow space between it and the"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "cubbyhole wall is now a figure. And she"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "thinks that it's one of the nightmares."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "And so she's blinking hard, trying to"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "clear her vision. And Patty makes a"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "horrifying realization. She notices that"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "this thing has eyes and they're glowing"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "this kind of eerie neon green. It's like"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "nothing she's ever seen. And they're"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "ovalshaped, pointed at the ends, and"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "they're huge, much bigger than a"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "person's. And they're just glaring down"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "at her. As her eyes are adjusting more"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "to this, she can make out more of the"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "details. And it's much taller than the"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "bunk bed itself, which means that it has"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "to be at least 6 ft. And its body is"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "long and lanky like a skeleton. And she"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "could see it's completely bald. There's"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "no hair anywhere on its head. But"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "strangely, its body doesn't seem to be"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "solid. It's more like it's made of"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "shadows. And she could even see the"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "outline, but it's it's it almost looks"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "like fog or smoke because the edges keep"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "shifting and blurring. and makes it"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "impossible to see any real details"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "beyond those terrible eyes. Now, like"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "the other two stories, she's stuck. She"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "can't scream. She can't move. She's just"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "so overcome with fear, she's completely"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "vulnerable to whatever this thing is"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "going to do. And after this goes on for"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "several moments of this thing just"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "staring there, looking down at her,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "almost like it's just feeding off of her"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "fear, she finally is able to pull the"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "quilt up over her eyes and praise. And"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "when she looks again, it's gone. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "after a few moments, she's able to work"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "up the courage to slowly lower her"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "blanket just enough to peek out, and"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "what she sees makes her heart sink. It's"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "still there, but now it's moved. It's no"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "longer standing by her bed, and instead,"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "it's at the foot of her sister's bed"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "across the room. Those same eyes now"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "fixed on her sleeping sibling. And she"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "just watches in horror as this thing"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "stands there and watches her sister"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "sleep. And she's so scared that all she"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "can do is just pull the quilt back over"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "her head and hide. And she's closing her"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "eyes. She's sobbing. She's crying. She's"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "just praying for this thing to go away."}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "And somehow every few minutes, she works"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "up just enough courage to peek out"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "again. And each time it's still there."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "It's still watching her sister. But on"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "maybe the fourth or fifth time she"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "looks, something has changed. It's now"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "gone. So, she lowers the blanket all the"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "way and she looks around the room and"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "the moonlight seems brighter now and"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "it's illuminating every corner. And now"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "she could see both of her sisters"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "sleeping peacefully in their beds. She"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "could see their wardrobes, the door,"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "everything exactly as it should be. No"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "sign of this thing anywhere. But after"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "that, she can't sleep. So, she just laid"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "there watching and waiting, terrified"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "that it would come back. It never did."}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "And when the sun finally rose and she"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "heard her parents moving around the"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "kitchen, she had never been so relieved."}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "The mother came in to wake the girls up"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "for breakfast. But it didn't take long"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "for her mother's voice to sound confused"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "and even a little angry. She began"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "asking the girls why had they left the"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "bedroom window open all night. Patty was"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "so confused and, you know, she looked"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "over to the window and right away saw"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "what her mother was talking about. The"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "bedroom window was wide open and it was"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "freezing. And to make matters worse, it"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "had been raining all night. So now the"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "window sill and the floor beneath it"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "were soaking. And both Patty and her"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "sister just swore that they hadn't"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "opened it, that it had been closed when"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "they went to sleep. Patty tried her best"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "to tell her mother about what she had"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "experienced, but her mother was clearly"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "too upset about the water to even"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "acknowledge what she was saying."}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "Eventually, her mother did hear her and,"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "you know, she just wrote it off and she"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "explained to Patty that, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "a bad dream. You know, sometimes when"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "we're half asleep, our minds can play"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "tricks on us. You know, maybe that's"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "what you saw. But there was just"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "something so different about the whole"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "experience, something she had never even"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "never even came close to experiencing in"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "her whole life. So much so that it has"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "stuck with her to this day. While there"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "are a plethora of logical and rational"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "explanations, many who look at the"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "supernatural side of it suggest that it"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "might have been some kind of demon or"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "goblin. What makes it all even stranger"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "is that after that night, things in the"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "bedroom actually got better. The"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "nightmare stopped. She never got another"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "asthma attack in the room, and she and"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "her sisters even stopped fighting when"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "they were in there. It was like whatever"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "had been causing all the problems had"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "left through that open window and never"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "come back. As stated in the intro of"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "this video, after investigating these"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "three cases, my conclusion is simple."}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "That whatever these beings were are all"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "demonic in nature. And for whatever"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "reason, they wanted to feed off these"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "people's fears, their energy, their life"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "force. Now, how they attach themselves"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "to these people, I don't exactly know"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "because we don't know their backstory or"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "their family's history or any of those"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "things. were just given their eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "accounts in isolation. So unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "while I believe they are demonic in"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "nature, what they really are or the"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "differences between them or why they did"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "what they did remains a mystery. And"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "because you guys made it this far into"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "the episode, I want you to all comment"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "below ghosts and ghouls. So that way I"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "know who made it to the end and who"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "didn't. And if you guys enjoy this kind"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "of content where we deep dive into"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "this. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "It is clear that Israel is calling the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "shots for a war with Iran. We have two"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "conflicting stories from major news"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "outlets. What they have in common is"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "that it's Netanyahu who continues to"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "make the decisions here, not President"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Trump. Now, before we get excited, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "worth remembering that the last time"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "that Trump and Netanyahu promised not to"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "bomb Iran, they turned around and did"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "it. So, we can't pretend that they're"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "not bluffing this time. It would be a"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "fool me twice situation on our part."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Here's what the major reports are and"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "then we're going to break them down. The"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "New York Times is reporting that"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Netanyahu has now asked Trump not to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "bomb Iran. The reporting is that Israel"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "is not ready to withstand the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "retaliation that inevitably would come"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "from Iran. Now, this comes right after"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "the Washington Post reported this. They"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "say that a few weeks ago, Israel sent a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "delegation to Russia to en assure Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that Israel does not intend to strike"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "unless they are struck first. On its"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "face, that sounds like reasonable"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "deescalation, but it's not because at"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "the very same moment Netanyahu was in"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Washington prompting President Trump to"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "strike Iran. So, you see what's"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "happening here. Israel is pretending"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "that they won't initiate the war on its"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "on its own. so long as they can get the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "US to do it for them. Now, why would"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Israel bother with this trickery? Mostly"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "for the PR of it. Because of Gaza, they"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "realize that they can't be seen as the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "continual aggressors. But that's clearly"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "what they want. Here's how the Post puts"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "it. That they want to desire to avoid"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "being perceived"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "as escalating tensions. Not that they"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "don't want to escalate. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the perception. So, if you can get your"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "[ __ ] the United States, to do it for"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "you, you're in the clear, right? Uh, but"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "they really do want to escalate those"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "tensions. Now, is Iran falling for this?"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "According to the post, they are not."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Iranian officials responded positively"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "to this Israeli outreach, but they are"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "wary. Obviously, Iran believed that if"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "the Israeli I lost my place as"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "assurances were genuine. They leave open"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the possibility that the US would carry"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "out attacks on Iran as part of a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "campaign between these two allies. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "they know that these two, and by these"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "two it's the US and Israel, are not to"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "be trusted."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's bring in Larry Johnson,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "former CIA intelligence officer now to"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "dissect all of this. Uh, great to see"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "you, Larry. Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> Hey, guys. Hey, let me just let me just"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "add actually I have a bare skin hoodie"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "and I've got two pairs of bare skin"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "pants. They they do work as advertised."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> fantastic. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Do they ward off wolves? That's the real"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "question. Well,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> that's that's why I carry a sidearm. I'd"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "recommend carrying, you know. Okay. A"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "nice nice 45 caliber 1911."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Yeah. When you're walking. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "exactly. I mean, these deer also come"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "after you crazy, too, with the um"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> and the elk. Um, hey, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "yesterday I just want to point out,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Larry, uh, yesterday speaking to Colonel"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "or hearing from Colonel Douglas"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "McGregor, he said, you know, when asked"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "about the intelligence back back and"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "forth, what's going on with these"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "players behind the scenes, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Israel getting busted and all and all of"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "this on the streets of Iran. Uh, Colonel"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "McGregor said, \"I'm not plugged into the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "intelligence community. There's one"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "person that I trust, and that's Larry"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Johnson. If you want to get to the the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "bottom of that, Larry Johnson is your"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "guy.\" So, guess what? Larry Johnson is"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "on the show today. Um, so Larry, you"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "hear these the New York Times, the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Washington Post with their stories. I"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "got off the phone about 20 minutes ago"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "from a source who told me that Israel"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "got busted and Putin was furious about"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "this. It was really the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "behind-the-scenes work of Putin and some"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "of the Middle East allies that actually"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "stopped this from happening. What do you"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Well, uh, yeah, I think I think that"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "that's definitely um part of the story."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Let's go back to December 28th, Sunday,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "when uh Donald Trump's meeting with"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Voteir Zalinski. Uh that day, an an"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "economic operation was launched, an"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "economic attack on Iran that fell the a"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "dramatic fall in the price of their"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "currency. Uh, and the Iranian economy is"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "small enough that an organization like"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "the CIA working with Israel can"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "basically spend some time in advance buy"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "you buy up a large number of of the"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "currency of Iran and then when you dump"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "it on the market and sell it, the price"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "goes through the floor. That sparked"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "legitimate economic protests."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "But this was programmed by the I believe"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "by the CIA and by Mossad to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "start the fire and then bring in the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "kindling and the gasoline to pour on it."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "And the kindling and gasoline came from"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "a variety of sources. You've got Kurds,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "ethnic Kurds that are in Iran and"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "they've got ties across border. They"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "were uh being asked paid uh to uh commit"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "acts of violence."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "uh they were they they were given"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Starlink terminals so that they could be"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "in communication with foreign assets"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "that were directing them. Similarly with"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "the group called the mech the mujahadin"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "al- khalk uh they are were designated by"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "the United States as a terrorist group"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "in 1997"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "even though that group had existed since"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "1964."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "They were described as a Marxist"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Islamist group that carried out acts of"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "violence against US citizens and against"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Iranian citizens both under the shaw and"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "under the Ayatollah. Well, in 2004, the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "CIA lined them up, put them in a camp,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "trained them in Albania, and started"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "using them to carry out terrorist"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "attacks in Iran. And uh then in 2012, we"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "finally took them off the terrorist list"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "because they're no longer terrorists."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "They're our guys. Um, so and then out in"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "western or in eastern Iran, you've got"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "the the Baluchis in Baluchistan, and"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "they have had a long long-term"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "relationship with the CIA. I know that"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "firsthand from one of my buddies back in"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "1980 when we were planning the rescue"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "operation uh to try to free the US"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "diplomats that had been taken hostage at"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "the embassy. Uh, one of the means of"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "communications was from rugs that were"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "coming from Belalucha Stan to a rug shop"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "in Bethesda, Maryland, right behind my"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "house uh, on Wisconsin Avenue. It was"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "called Parvisian."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "And the the messages were hidden in"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "those rugs. So, what I'm saying is there"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "there's not just one ethnic group. You"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "got a variety of ethnic groups that have"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "had ties to these um uh to to foreign"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "They inflamed the situation and the the"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "plan I believe now watching what has"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "happened the plan was that the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "government was going to be put into such"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "a degree of chaos that when we launched"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the military strikes yesterday"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "then that would have brought the whole"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "house down. Well, it it failed. The the"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "operation to destabilize Iran"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "started collapsing last Friday. Um the"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Iranian security forces they discovered"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the Starlink terminals. Uh Russia and"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "China were helping them with electronic"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "warfare counter measures. Yes. To block"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "those. Uh and as they started blocking"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "those the people stopped showing up in"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the streets and this the IRGC and the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "and and the Bajis uh they started"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "cracking down on on the ones who were"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "carrying out violence against uh against"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Iranians. So what happened yesterday"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "was also it was exacerbated by uh that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Saudi Arabia Qatar and uh Turkey both"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "told the United States you're not flying"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "over our territory to do this. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "think part of that was pressure that the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Russians was bringing on to all of them"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "because what what what Russia knows is"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "that it's now invested heavily in Iran"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "as is China. They're not going to let"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the United States attack Iran and just"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "try to destroy it. Now, the other"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "element that's at play here is that uh"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "45%"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "of the daily production of oil in the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "world comes out of the Persian Gulf."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Iran can close the straight of Hormuz in"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "a heartbeat. Once that's closed, all of"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "a sudden 45% of the oil that's out in"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "the world no longer there. What does"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "that do to the price of oil? Sends it"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "into the into space."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> And u it is it would be good for Russia"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "because you know now the price of oil is"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "$150 a barrel but it's going to have a"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "devastating impact impact on other"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "economies both in in causing inflation"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and forcing embassy industries to shut"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "down. So this very complex picture, but"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "this simplistic crap that was being spun"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "in the west that all we got to do is,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "you know, put enough pressure and the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Ayatollah is going to flee to Moscow."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Nonsense."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> This episode is brought to you by Rumble"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Premium, the home of free speech and"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "exclusive content from the videos that"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "matter. 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One more time, that's"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "rumble.com/premium/redacted"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "because truth should not come with a"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "filter."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Russia did prop up Syria and the Assad"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "government for so long until they just"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "couldn't do it anymore. So, is this the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "delicate balance by which Iran hangs in"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "the in the the fate of a possible Assad"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "government? What what's the difference"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "here?"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> Yeah. The the difference is"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "Bashar al-Assad didn't want to listen."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> You know, the Russians said, \"Hey, we'll"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "help you. Let let us come in and"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "assist.\""}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> And and and Assad said, \"You know, I"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "don't You're not old enough to remember,"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Natalie, but in the 60s there's this"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "television commercial for Eedrin, and as"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "part of it, there was a mother talking"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "to her daughter, and the daughter would"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "go, \"Mother, please, I'd rather do it"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "myself.\" Well, that that was Syria."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Okay, they told mother Russia, \"We'd"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "rather do it oursel.\" Well, that didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "turn out so well. Iran, in this case, uh"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "they had actually told Russia something"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "similar prior to the 12-day war in June."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Russia had offered a military alliance,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "and the Iranians said, \"No, no, no. We"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "we'd rather do it on our own.\" on June"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "25th when that when that war came to an"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "end, that brief uh conflict, uh Iran"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "went back to Russia, said uh hey uh"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "guys, that offer you made that sounded"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "really good. Let's do that. And so what"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "you've had since then is extensive"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "cooperation between Russia and China. So"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Iran is actually in a much stronger"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "position now than it was say on June"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "12th of 2025. Now, can I ask you?"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Lindsey Graham took to X and said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "this idea that our Arab allies have"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "intervened on behalf of Iran is beyond"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "disturbing.\" Now, when something"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "disturbs him, I usually am for it."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> That's my general rule."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "But is he thwarting something? Does"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Lindsey Graham know anything? Are do we"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "have to worry about what this uh"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "bloodthirsty demon wants to happen?"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I think I think it it actually"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "corroborates the other press reports you"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "guys were citing at the outset that that"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "in fact these Arab nations did tell"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Trump, hey,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> we're not you can't use our air"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "aerospace. You're not going to do this."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "One of the things that both China and"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Russia have brokered in the course of"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the last two years was u a new alliance"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "between uh Iran and Saudi Arabia. You"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "know, previously uh the the Saudis were"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "being used by the United States as a as"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "a means to attack Iran and it and the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "proxy war was being fought out in Yemen."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "But uh thanks to the intervention of"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Moscow and Beijing, you now have uh"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Iran, you know, the defense minister"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "from Iran has visited Saudi Arabia. Vice"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "versa, President Beskin has met uh with"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "MBS Muhammad bin Salman. So they"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "recognize they are not enemies as they"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "were in the past. So uh and and the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Saudis also I think are looking at very"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "practically. Um they are the largest"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "producer in the in in in the world. They"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "do like 10.4"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "million barrels of oil per day. Russia"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "does 10.3 million barrels of oil per"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "day. And if the straight of Hermuz is"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "closed, you know, Saudi Arabia's got"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "some sign taking some significant"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "economic losses over that. They don't"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "want that. And I think uh they recognize"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Iran now is in a stronger position than"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "it was in June to fight back and fight"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "back decisively. And they've made they I"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "think they've made it clear we will"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "close those straits in a heartbeat."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> What does I mean from an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "perspective, what are you hearing that"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Israel would do next? Because we heard"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "reports today, who knows if there's any"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "truth to this being tied to some sort of"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "a nuclear test at Deona inside of"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "Israel. The We all pretend that Israel"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "doesn't have a nuclear,"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": ">> You know, nuclear arsenal cuz you're not"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> Deona is what they told JFK was a"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "textile factory."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we there's reports of an"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "earthquake from possible nuclear"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "testing. I don't know if this is saber"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "rattling on Israel's part. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "But what are you hearing from an"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "intelligence perspective that Israel"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "would do next? I mean, if the United"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "States and Israel cannot stop hypersonic"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "missiles coming into Israel and Russia"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "is saying, \"Don't even think about it.\""}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Are we at a stalemate here?"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Uh, no. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "because I actually I think I think we're"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "ultimately still going to attack."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "We we're"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "so gaslit in the West about Iran. I I"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "was on and I'll tell you off air who it"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "was, but I was in a conference call on"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "Tuesday with a retired US general, very"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "respected, wellrespected, knowledgeable"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "guy, and and he started describing why"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "we needed to, you know, why Iran had to"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "be taken out because it's killed"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "thousands of Americans. So I started"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "doing the research. Uh the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "government since 19 u 8079"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "the Iranian government has not"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "identified as having killed one"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "American. the Iranian government. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Iranian proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, uh"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "they they have killed in terms of"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "civilians, wait for it, the total number"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "of civilians killed by these Iranian"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "proxies,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "100, less than 100."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "The number of soldiers, US soldiers"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "killed by proxies in Iraq in particular,"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "uh is a thousand, less than a thousand."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "So, what we're looking at total from"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Iranian terrorism over the years, uh,"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "less than 2,000 actual fatal American"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "fatalities. Now, look at it from the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Iranian standpoint. It was the US that"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "went to Saddam Hussein and said, \"Hey"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "buddy, we'll provide you with all those"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "precursor chemicals you need to make"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "mustard gas.\" He did, and he killed at"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "least 500,000"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Iranians."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "So when you're weighing the total in"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "terms of who's been killing more of the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "other side, it is the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "that's got the most blood on its hands,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "not Iran. And yet we persist with this"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "lie that Iran is a terrorist state. I"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "challenge anybody. Show me the numbers."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "I'm born and raised in Missouri. Show me"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "state. Show me the actual numbers."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "Because in terms of attacks on"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Americans, what Iran has done, they what"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "they've what those groups that they've"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "supported, they've attacked military"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "targets. And I put, look, I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "that I'm supported their attack on the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "Marines like at the Marine Barrack in"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Lebanon. But when you're wearing a"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "uniform and you get to carry guns,"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "that's called war. And even if it's an"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "unconventional warfare, you're still a"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "legitimate target. It's not like"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "carrying a bomb into a pizza restaurant"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "and blowing up a bunch of civilians."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> Absolutely. And we have to, if we're"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "doing this calculation of lives, we then"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "have to calculate how and a retaliation"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "from Iran would then cost American lives"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "as well. And it's not just civilian"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "lives because"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": ">> well, all these bases there, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "how many"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, how many how many, as"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "you've said multiple times on our show"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "over the years, I mean, these as as"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "President Biden even said, it's not a"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "matter of if they get attacked, it's a"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "matter of when because they know if they"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "want to use these Americans as cannon"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "fodder in these bases that are all"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "throughout the region. Just put them"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "there,"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> wait for them to be attacked, and then"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "we can use that as a false flag to go"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "in. Yeah. And notice that Iran did not"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "the only base it attacked and that was"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "sort of a coordinated Kabuki theater"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "with the United States on June 24th when"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "they did launch missiles and they took"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "out a satellite system at Aluded Air"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Force Base. Uh but uh you know Aloid is"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the main base but there there are eight"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "other bases including a naval facility"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "in Bahrain that we didn't touch that the"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Iranians didn't touch. So uh Iran the"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "the big difference now is that Iran is"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "ready to respond and retaliate in a very"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "forceful way. There was there was a"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "dispute an argument within the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "government. They felt that they should"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "have continued pressing forward. Now"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "this this comes back into your original"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "question. What's Israel up to? Uh the"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "worst case is Israel faced with an"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "existential threat where they're about"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "to uh see their entire society collapse"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "would be tempted to use a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "weapon. Yes. But that comes at a at a"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "potential very high cost when you've got"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "countries such as North Korea and"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "Pakistan who are also nuclear powers"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "threatening to retaliate if if if Iran"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "is nuked. So it's a very dangerous"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "situation. And what's unfortunate is"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Donald Trump's in a position where he"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "could actually be a leader in making"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "peace, bringing Iran back into the the"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "world, a civilized world, but he's not"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "doing that."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> Yeah. I spoke to a a source inside of"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Tel Aviv yesterday who said, \"We can't"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "stop. They're going to throw everything"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "they have at us here in Tel Aviv."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "They're going to destroy us and we can't"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "stop it.\" And the Iron Dome, he this per"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "this source said the Iron Dome is"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "essentially a joke against hypersonic"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "missiles, of course. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": ">> we know that that's the case. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": ">> uh don't don't poke the bear at this"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "stage. Um Larry Johnson, always great to"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "see you."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> Well, can I just before we let him go,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "he says, \"Oh, we will attack.\" He did"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "say you did say that, right? We may not"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "be doing it this time because of these"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "deterrents. But can you finish that"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "please?"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Will who identify for me the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "voices in the US Congress either"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "senators or congress uh members house of"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "members of the house of representatives"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "or any leading pundits that are allowed"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "on the television networks that are"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "saying, \"Hey, Iran's not our enemy. we"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "we need to find a way to accommodate and"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "work with them. No, no, no. It's just"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "the opposite. They are constantly being"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "portrayed as the enemy, as somebody"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "we've got to stop at any cost. And so"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "that's why I say we're we're going to"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "attack them. They're just we're going to"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "they're going to look for the next"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "excuse. But uh the way to tell if we're"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "going to back off is if this current"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "deployment because you got another"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "aircraft carrier task force group headed"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "to uh the the Persian Gulf or the Indian"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "Ocean. Uh if that's called off and"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "turned around, then I say, \"Okay, uh"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "we're we're backing off.\" But I I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "see that happening. So if we see the"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "continued buildup and if the military"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "forces that were evacuated yesterday are"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "not sent back to those bases, then"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "you'll know that we're just we're paying"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "lip service to peace because we're going"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "to go to war"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": ">> and we're hanging in the balance. Thank"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "you so much for that assessment. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "didn't like hearing it, but I appreciate"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": ">> it's coming. It's coming. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": ">> Larry, always great to see you. Thank"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "you so much as always."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": ">> All right, guys. Thanks so much. really"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "appreciate it."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Well, with silver and gold prices"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "surging, are we about to see the banking"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "collapses across the United States? And"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "the math goes something like this from"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "keen eyed analysts on silver production."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "So, 800 million ounces a year being"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "produced in silver. I mean, we we we"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "know it's a scarce resource at this"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "point. Companies are clamoring to get as"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "much of it as they can in their hands"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "right now. Everything from solar panels"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "to EVs, of course, it's also a commodity"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "in addition to a currency. Um so 800"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "million ounces per year bank shorts on"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "silver 4.4 billion ounces according to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "some reports if so by this estimation if"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "silver keeps going up the biggest banks"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "in America will collapse. Who's going to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "how are they going to cover these"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "shorts? Some investors are seeing a big"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "trap here. Many banks are barely"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "covering their asses to stay afloat. Um"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "and I just want to pull up here uh see"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "if I can get my gold numbers up here."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Just take a look at gold and silver"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "today. And just take a look at this. So"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "here's gold's price right now, $4600."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "It bounced back from the little bit of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "down yesterday. And then look at silver"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "on the right side of your screen. $92 an"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "ounce right now. So we want to bring in"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Peter Schiff who's a silver gold expert"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "and economist. Um he is the author of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "The Real Crash: How to Save Yourself and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Your Country. Here is the book. Go out"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "and pick it up right now. America's"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "coming bankruptcy. Peter has been you've"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "been predicting this for for uh I mean I"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "don't want to say a few months, maybe a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "few short years here about what's coming"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "here and we've all it's all been sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "like a shell game being hidden. Peter,"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "welcome back to the show. What do you"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "think is going to happen with these bank"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "collapses?"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> Well, I mean, first of all, that book"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "was from 2013, so obviously it was a bit"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "premature. Uh but it was right on"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "target. In fact, if you read that book"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "today, you'll understand exactly what's"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "going on right now and why and where"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "we're headed. And of course, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "predicted that uh the price of gold and"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "silver uh would rise substantially. And"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "now we're seeing that. I mean, gold"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "prices uh in the last year alone have"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "more than doubled and silver prices have"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "practically tripled. Uh but to me this"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "is a major warning of a serious uh"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "financial crisis, economic crisis that's"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "coming. It reminds me of the ' 07"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "warning we got from subprime. Uh because"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "when the subprime market blew up in"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "2007, very few people understood the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "significance of what that meant,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "including the Fed. Remember Ben Bernaki"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "said, \"Don't worry about it. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "contained to subprime.\" But when"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "subprime blew up, that was something I"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "had been waiting for, predicting. I was"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "short the market. So I knew it was"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "coming, but I also knew the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "significance. And once I saw that, I"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "started uh increasing my warnings of the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "financial crisis uh that was coming. And"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "I was right. It happened a year later."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "And I think that what we're seeing now"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "in gold and silver is a similar warning."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "But it's not about mortgage credit. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "about the US government sovereign"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "credit. So gold and silver soaring are"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "indicating a dollar crisis and a US"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Treasury crisis that are coming and"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "maybe they'll hit next year, but that's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "not a lot of time. Uh and and people"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "need to take action while they can."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> Now, a lot of our debt is allowable"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "because we are able to trade global"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "currencies and so that allows"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "politicians to continue to spend in a"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "way they wouldn't otherwise be able to."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "So, can you connect this to the crisis"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "in Venezuela where Venezuela had oil was"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "trading around the pro dollar and"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "shrinking our ability to continue to"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "borrow which would in fact lead by many"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "economists, this is not my estimation,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "uh lead to a reduced a deflation of the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "dollar, reduced global power. Uh is that"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "what you see is could lead to this"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "crisis? Is that what you're referring"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "to?"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Well, that's already happening. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "the main reason that gold moved up as"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "much as it did is because foreign"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "central banks were buying gold instead"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "of US treasuries. And so, they're moving"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "out of dollars into gold. Uh, clearly,"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "we went into Venezuela because we we"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "want their oil. Uh, we're trying to keep"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the price of oil down. It's one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "only commodities that's not going way"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "up. Uh, because it's not just precious"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "metals. I mean, it's all metals. And now"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "we're seeing agricultural commodities."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "And soon, uh, we're going to see energy"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "as well, oil and gas. Um but it's not"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "going to uh be enough uh to uh you know"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "save the dollar the US dollar as the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "reserve currency. I think uh that status"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "has been lost. We just haven't uh fully"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "uh you know you know reap the"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "consequences of that. Uh but we're going"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "to see that uh in in in short order when"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "we see a a much more meaningful decline"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "in the dollar relative to other foreign"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "currencies and we see that impact on"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "consumer prices and interest rates,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "meaning consumer prices and interest"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "rates will be moving substantially"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "higher. So if people think there's a"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "affordability crisis now, they ain't"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "seen nothing yet."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> Let's talk about the silver piece that I"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "outlined at the beginning here. this"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "idea that many of these banks are short"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "precious metals, they're short silver"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "and are we about to see a run on that? I"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "mean, if silver hits not, you know, goes"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "over 100, hits 105, like what happens to"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "these banks? Well, you know, I I think"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "that the people who are short silver,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "who don't actually own the silver,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "right? They're, you know, some people"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "have silver that they've hedged, but"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "speculative short positions, I think"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "those short sellers are in a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "trouble. Uh, they're losing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "money now and they're going to lose even"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "more money in the near future. Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "whether it's enough to bankrupt some of"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "the banks that may have underwritten, I"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "I don't think so, but it's certainly"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "enough to create losses, and the banks"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "are going to have a lot of problems,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "too, not just uh losses on short silver"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "positions. I mean, they their loan books"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "are going to blow up. Uh real estate"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "prices are going to start to fall. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "commercial has already fallen, but"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "residential is still a bubble. Uh with"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the air yet to come out. Uh so there's a"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "lot of bad debt on the books of banks."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Uh I think the banking system"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "fundamentally is in worse shape now than"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "it was before the 2008 financial crisis."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Very few people appreciate the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "precarious position of the US banking"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "system. In fact, that is one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "reasons that the Fed is cutting rates."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "That's one of the reasons that the Trump"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "administration wants lower rates is to"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "prop up the banks."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> So, what are the mechanics of this then"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "for the average person? You know, we've"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "got tens of thousands of people watching"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "How does this affect them personally?"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Like the the, you know, the husband and"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "wife with two kids, they they they work,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "you know, they work jobs, they got kids"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "going to school, they got soccer"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "practice and all of that. How is this"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "materially going to affect them if we"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "see this major collapse?"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> Well, most Americans don't understand"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the degree to which the US dollars"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "reserve status is responsible for their"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "standard of living. But most of the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "stuff that we consume in America, the"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "products are not made in America, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "They're they're imported. And how do we"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "pay for these imports? Well, we create"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "dollars out of thin air. Um, and the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "world is willing to accept those dollars"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "because of the dollar's unique position"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "in the world. If we didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "reserve currency and we wanted to import"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "stuff, we'd have to export stuff of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "equal value to pay for it. The problem"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "is our economy does not produce uh"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "nearly enough stuff to pay for all the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "things that that we that we import, but"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "we're able to get away with it because"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "of the dollar status. So in other words,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "we live way beyond our means and that's"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "been enabled by the rest of the world"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "that lives beneath its means and accepts"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "dollars in exchange for real real goods."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "But as the dollar collapses and the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "world moves away from the dollar, uh"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "that you know knocks the support from"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "under our you know our economy and the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "the people in your example are going to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "feel that because now the dollars that"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "they earn, the dollars that they saved"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "will buy a lot less and so everything is"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "going to be a lot more expensive. I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "not talking about the type of price"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "increases we saw during the Biden years"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "or what we may be seeing now, but"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "something on an order on an order of"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "magnitude much larger."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "I could see"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> give an example like um like a $15"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "hamburger at McDonald's something."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> It could become it could become a 30 or"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "a $50 hamburger, right? It going to"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "McDonald's may be like going to a fancy"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "restaurant,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> right? I mean, that's massive deflation"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "of the US dollar's buying power at the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "same time as inflation at pricing. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "what you think you make, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "make a third of that in terms of"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "purchasing power, right? So, how do you"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "prepare for that?"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, and of course, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "some prices will go up more than others."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "I mean, like if you want to get a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "haircut, right, that's s a local service"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "provided by, you know, a local, you"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "know, barber. So, I don't think the cost"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "of a haircut will go up nearly as much"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "as the cost of, you know, buying"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "yourself some shampoo, right? That"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "products, goods prices are going to rise"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "a lot faster than than service prices,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "which of course is a problem if you're"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "the barber, right? Because now your"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "income that you get cutting hair is not"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "going up nearly as much as your cost of"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "living. So, that's going to be a big"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "problem for a lot of people. Maybe their"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "wages will go up, but not as much as the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "price of everything they have to buy."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> So, I'll get you out of here on this,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Peter. I mean, I've been saying for"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "years, like, please do not put your"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "family's future tie, please do not tie"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "your family's future to the US dollar."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "You know, investing in gold, investing"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "in silver, having precious metals which"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "have sustained for 5,000 years. Is that"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "still a smart play at this stage? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "I mean, look, I I gold and silver"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "prices, if you go back to the beginning"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "of uh this uh millennium, century, you"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "know, 1999, 2000, 2001, silver was under"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "$5 an ounce. Now it's over 90. Um gold"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "was under 300. Now it's over 4,600."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "So, gold and silver have done better"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "than the stock market. People want to"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "make a big deal about the Dow almost"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "being 50,000 and it was 10,000. All"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "right. So, the Dow is up 5x, but gold"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "and silver are up more than 10x. And so,"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "that means that the Dow is worth less"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "than half of what it was back then in"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "terms of real money. And those trends"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "are going to continue. So, you got to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "keep getting out of of of your paper"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "into real money. Uh, you know, I've got"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "a company, Shift Gold. I would suggest"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "that your listeners go to shiftgold.com"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "right now and buy gold and silver. And"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "in fact, silver, you know, I think in a"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "couple of months we may not have much"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "silver left. You know, we're running low"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "on supplies because there's only so much"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that's, you know, that's that's minted."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "You know, the the markets are not"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "prepared uh for the demand surge uh that"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "that is coming. But I think the real"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "real opportunity for people who, you"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "know, have a little bit more of a"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "risk-taking mentality. I look at gold"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "and silver as conservative stores of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "value. But gold mining stocks and silver"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "mining stocks, yeah, they've tripled"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "this year, but given how much gold and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "silver have gone up, these stocks are"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "actually cheaper now than before they"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "triple. The thing is, Wall Street hasn't"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "woken up to that yet. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "there's still an incredible opportunity"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "for people to buy these mining companies"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "that are literally, you know, gold"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "mines. They are now making a fortune uh"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "mining gold and silver because their"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "costs are about the same, if not a"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "little lower than they were a year ago,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "but they're getting so much more money"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "for every ounce they pull out of the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "ground. So, people should be looking,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "you know, go to Europeific Asset"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Management. We have separately managed"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "strategies in gold and silver companies."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "I manage a gold fund. EPGIX"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "uh is the no-loadad symbol. You can buy"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "it at any discount brokerage firm. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "we've got a great portfolio, especially"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "a lot of junior mining stocks that"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "haven't moved nearly as much yet, but I"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "think they're going to be the the rock"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "stars at 2026. So, it's a great time to"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "get into my fund because we're broadly"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "diversified. We have nice positions in"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "in in the juniors as well as the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "mid-tier and the senior gold companies."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Again, the symbol is EPG IIIX. And you"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "can also get more information on that"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "fund and all my mutual funds. You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "even my dividend payers, just foreign"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "stocks. My foreign dividend payer fund"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "was up 62% last year. Something like"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "that. I mean, that that gives you an"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "idea of the type of returns now that"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "investors are earning outside the United"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "States. I think it's now a race to get"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "out of the dollar, to get out of US"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "stocks, to get out of US bonds. We have"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "a real crisis coming and we can't, you"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "know, we can't do anything to prevent"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "it, but we can do something to protect"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "ourselves and then hopefully in the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "future uh we could use the wealth that"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "we've uh accumulated uh to help the"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "country because the country is going to"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "be in a lot of trouble and the the fewer"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Americans who go broke, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "better."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Well said. Yeah. These junior"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "mining stocks, I think you're absolutely"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "spot on about that. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "technically a gold mine at this point"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "because they're so underpriced. Peter,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "great to see you. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "your insights on this and uh as a being"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "a soothsayer for many, many years on"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "this. Really appreciate it. We'll have"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "everything linked up in our description"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "as well. So, Peter, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Thank you so much for your insights. We"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "know you got to jump."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": ">> Um, my pleasure. Thanks for having me on"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "and making me a part of uh of of your uh"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "program here."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": ">> Really appreciate it. Thanks, Peter."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Well, is Alberta, Canada about to become"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "its own nation? Wouldn't that be"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "incredible? We're rewriting boundaries"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "in real time, folks, around the world"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "right now. Um, would they drop Canada"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "all together become a free and"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "independent state, province, country?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "It's happening. Tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Albertans lining up in the frigid cold"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "winter to sign the independence"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "petition. Look at the thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "people. This is just one spot. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "this is just one spot in Red Deer. um so"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "many spots around Alberta where this is"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "happening. Let's bring in David Kraden"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "who joins us from Ottawa, Canada now."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "And I asked David uh yesterday, I said,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "\"David, how real is this movement? How"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "real is it? Are we just seeing some of"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "these social media images here or is"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "this a real independence movement?\""}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "David, what did you tell me?"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> This is for real. This is the most"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "potentially the most real opportunity"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "for Alberta to become an independent"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "nation, independent state in in the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "history of Canada. I spoke to my good"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "friend Jeff Wrath last night. He's the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "legal counsel for the Alberta Prosperity"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Project and this is the chief advocacy"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "organization for Alberta Independence."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "and he said the polls right now are 45%"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "and higher for Alberta independence in"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "the province."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "That is as high as it's ever been"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "because I can remember independence"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "movements in the past, not just in"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Alberta, but for the entire section of"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Western Canada, it was never anywhere"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "near 45, potentially 50%. It was always"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "a fringe movement where you were lucky"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "maybe to score 15%"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "in public opinion in this maybe 20% at"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "at the worst times with the federal"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "government bearing down on Alberta oil"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "with a national energy program that was"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "very unpopular but never this high. And"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "you know, Clayton, I had the think with"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "your last guest on talking about Canada"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "so much and how Australia and Canada are"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "basically emulating each other with hate"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "crime legislation and hate speech"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "legislation."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "That's one of the reasons, Clayton,"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Albertans want to leave is because an"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "outofcontrol, off the rails federal"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "government that is imposing legislation"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "that is just so deplorable and so"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "unwanted by Albertans. They're saying"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "there's no alternative but to leave the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "country."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> What would you say is their biggest"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "grievance in Alberta? Is there a common"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "thread among maybe farmers, uh, oil"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "producers, uh, or just average Albertans"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "who don't want these draconian speech"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "laws and the carne government? Is there"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "like one major thread running through"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "all of it?"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> There sure is. And it's probably"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "something called equalization payments,"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "which you don't have in the United"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "States. But in Canada, equalization"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "payments mean that the richer province"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "essentially pay the bills for the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "so-called poor provinces. Poorer"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "provinces are called have not provinces."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Richer provinces are called have"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "provinces. Canada has very few have"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "provinces. The most have province in the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "country of course is Alberta with its"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "natural resources, its oil industry. So"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Alberta is spending billions of dollars"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "of its treasury to support people in"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Quebec in Ontario. You think Ontario is"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "not a half province, the industrial"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "sector of the country? No. Doesn't quite"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "fit the bill. So Alberta's paying the"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "money so Ontario can use Albertans money"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "to pay for social programs and however"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "they want to. And it's it gets even"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "uglier in Quebec where they're they're"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "spending even more of Alberta's money on"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "their programs on their policies. So"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "people resent that tremendously in"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Alberta. And that is the common"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "denominator whether you're talking about"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "farmers, oil people, businessmen,"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "business people, people who just want to"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "make their money and keep it."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> And of course, imagine that it's the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "high taxes coming from the federal"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "government and it's the regulations on"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "the oil industry. It's everything that"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "is making Alberta"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> less than it potentially could be. One"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "of the top trending hashtags in this on"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "on X is Alberta separation and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "you know this idea that there's this"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "myth about um Alberta will be landlocked"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "and so this this has been making the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "rounds. I want to put this up here on"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "the screen if you could Philip. Um 88%"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "of trade is with the United States. So"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "this idea that this would be landlocked"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "you know um an independent Alberta will"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "be landlocked 88% of its trade is with"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "the United States. So, what does this"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "exactly mean for maybe a US partnership"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "here if this goes through? Have you"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "heard any overtures yet from the Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "administration?"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely. And the Alberta"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Prosperity Project has sent"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "representatives down to Washington. They"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "have met with top level members of the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Trump administration. Two things came"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "out of those meetings. The first of"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "which was the Trump administration would"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "look favorably on an independent Alberta"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "and would welcome any overtures to"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "become the 51st state if that was the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "wish of Albertans in an independent"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Alberta. So the response from Washington"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "has been incredibly"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "positive towards Alberta becoming first"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "independent and then potentially if"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "that's what the people in the province"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "would wish the 51st state. And these"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "these meetings have been going on now"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "for the last nine months. They have been"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "entirely positive. And I and I say this"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "because people are wondering the big"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "issue now with Premier Danielle Smith of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Alberta. She is trying to get a pipeline"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "built with the cooperation of Prime"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Minister Mark Carney who has spent his"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "entire career"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "with green energy being paramount not"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "supporting pipelines in Canada."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Pipelines are okay if they're in Brazil"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "or if they're in the third world"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "someplace, but pipelines in Canada. No,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that would not work with his net zero"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "policies. So Mark Harney sort of pulled"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "a fast one, signed a memorandum of"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "understanding with Daniel Smith, said,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "\"Well, we'll we'll we'll agree to a"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "pipeline."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "However, if we agree to the pipeline,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "you have to agree to increase the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "industrial carbon tax on Albertan oil by"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "600%."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Six times. So that's going to put"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Alberta energy very much out of the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "reach of the United States. If, and this"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "is a point I have been stressing for the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "past couple of weeks, if that cheap"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Venezuelan oil begins to flow north,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "how do you think the United States is"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "going to respond to that? Because this"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "is the same type of oil, Clayton. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "heavy crude. It's high in sulfur. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "the kind of oil that is used primarily"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "to make diesel fuel which is the fuel of"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "industrial power. So it's indispensable"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to American. The US oil, the petroleum,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the crude supplies are not that kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "oil that you can make petroleum out of."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "So the US needs this kind of oil. Where"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "is it going to get it? Well, if the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "infrastructure is rebuilt in Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "and I predict Donald Trump will do that"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "with or without the private sector"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "cooperating, it's going to be a much"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "more favorable response. So, this is why"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Alberta needs a pipeline through British"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Columbia to the West Coast so we can"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "begin to ship oil other places rather"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "than just the United States. A pipeline,"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "it's not just a pipeline anymore. It's a"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "lifeline for this province. And Premier"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Smith has already said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "if Carney is not serious about this"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "pipeline and he's recently said, well, I"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "think we're going to have to have the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "concurrence, the agreement of First"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Nations people in British Columbia,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "which is absolutely nonsensical."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Courts have already said First Nations,"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the indigenous people should be"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "consulted, but any pipeline going"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "through BC does not require their"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "approval. They have no veto. Carney's"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "now talking like they do have that veto."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Why? Because Carney really doesn't want"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "a pipeline going to the West Coast. He"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "wants to squash Alberta's energy"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "resources. But Alberta will go through"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "the state of Washington if it has to."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "Premier Smith has already said that"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "that's the plan and that is why Alberta"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "doesn't trust the federal government to"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "build that pipeline or to support that"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "pipeline with a private sector contract."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "They know the federal government cannot"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "be trusted. It still wants to put a vice"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "in put a vice inside Alberta's"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "aspirations and to stop them to styy"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "them to squash them. So you said"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "something well many things very"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "important there and I think that and and"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "you you already see the Trump"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "administration who wants to drill baby"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "drill. They've already opened up Alaska."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "So if you want a partner who can"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "facilitate drilling and pipeline"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "building, Trump's your guy. It's already"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "an executive order for crying out loud."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "This is a national security issue now"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "for the United States as Trump has said."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "but the other piece of this is would"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "they want to become the 51st state as"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "you mentioned? And so there's huge"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "support to become free and independent"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Alberta, how nearly 45%. How much"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "support is there to become the 51st"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "state of America?"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> That's that's a good question. And I've"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "seen numbers as high as 25%."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> And given the current scenario, given"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "the current reality, would that go up if"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Alberta became an independent nation?"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Potentially. But I tell you, the Alberta"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Prosperity Project has put the financing"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "out there. They have put exactly how"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "things would be as an independent"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "state. And Alberta could be as"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "prosperous as Kuwait if the federal"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "government was off their backs. If they"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "were allowed to develop their natural"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "resources as they could and they should,"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "they would be one of the most prosperous"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "countries in the world. Now, that would"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "be, I would suggest, an impediment to"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Albertans wanting to become the 51st"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "state. And I'm not even convinced that"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "would be a popular idea."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> Yeah. to a lot of legislators in"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Washington, mainly Democratic ones,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "because Alberta would be automatically"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "a Republican, a red state. That's the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "kind of politics it is."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> And it would be it would automatically"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "have two senators that would be"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Republican, upsetting, of course, this"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "whole balance of power in Washington. So"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "the idea of Alberta becoming a 51st"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "state is fraught with difficulties not"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "so much from Albertans but from I think"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Americans and in American politicians"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "specifically. There was all kinds of as"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "you know controversy about bringing"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Alaska and Hawaii into the union as the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "49th and 50th states. Lots of politics"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "behind that decision. Some people said,"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "'Well, we don't want those people from"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Alaska. They're not as civilized as we"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "are. And some people said the same thing"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "about Hawaiians and hey, they're not"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "really up to the same category. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "there's always controversy when you"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "bring in a new state. And I think"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "bringing in Alberta would generate a lot"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "of controversy amongst Americans,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "specifically those in Washington."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> Well, it might be the 52nd state if"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Greenland uh if Greenland beats him to"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "the punch. Who knows? or if uh Puerto"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Rico finally decides to pull the trigger"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "and actually become the 51st state of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "the United States. Well, this is"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "fascinating, David. Thank you so much"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "for this. I guess uh we'll wrap it up"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "here with a few seconds here. Where when"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "um what what is next for this"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "independence petition?"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Well, the as soon as they secure the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "adequate numbers in terms of voter voter"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "response and they're going to be there"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "very quickly given the the people who"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "are standing out. You joked about the"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Canadian winters. Well, I'm in Ottawa"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "here. It's not only bloody cold. We've"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "got a blizzard going on, but people are"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "standing out in very, very cold"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "temperatures in lineups demonstrating"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "their desire to have this question on a"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "referendum this year. So, by fall, there"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "will be unless something incredible"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "happens to stop it. And the premier of"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the province is behind it. Elections"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Alberta is behind this process. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "very unlikely anything's going to stop"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "it. There will be a referendum question"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "on a ballot by the fall of 2026 this"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "year. That question has not been"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "formalized yet, but it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "from the people I've talked to, my"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "sources, Jeff Wrath included, it's going"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "to be a very simple question. Should"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Alberta be independent and leave Canada?"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> It's going to be very simple. Something"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> Wow. I I would love to see it. I would"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "love to see a shakeup like that. And"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "you're right. I think um you know Norway"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "look at Norway once Norway discovered"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "oil became you know the most prosperous"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "country in the world by arguably right"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "um and not being hamstrung by other"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "other provinces other countries telling"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "it what to do and Alberta would have"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "that same opportunity although"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "landlocked they don't have the ports of"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "course but they would have that"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "prosperity to themselves instead of"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "having to ship it off to Toronto"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "and to other liberal provinces"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "to fuel this insanity that's happening"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "in Canada right now. Cut them off. Cut"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "them off. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> well, I have to say I have to say again,"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "Clayton, if you ask about what riles"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Albertans the most, it's definitely"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "their forced subsidization"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "of Ontario and Quebec. And in the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "process, what do they get back from"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Ottawa but a kick in the teeth all the"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "time. No, you can't do this. No, you"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "can't dig for your resources. Leave your"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "oil in the ground. Leave Leave your"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "fossil fuels where they are and we're"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "going to head for a net zero policy and"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "no matter if we all starve and live in"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "the cold. That's the political response."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "Albertans are sick of that because it"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "doesn't have to be their reality"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> Well said, David Kraden, who writes at"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "the Postmillennial, great independent"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "journalist um from Ottawa, Canada."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "Always great to see you, David. Thank"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "you for all of your reporting and great"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "work on this."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> Thank you so much, Clayton. Now, it was"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "a pleasure to be with"}]

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What more must be done?"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> The actually the facts are these. There"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "are more children about 600 700 more"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "children unaccompanied children coming o"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "over the border. uh the uh this is a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "humanitarian challenge to all of us. Uh"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "what the administration has inherited is"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "a broken system at the border and they"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "are working to correct that in the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "children's interest. I'm so pleased that"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "the president as a temporary measure has"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "sent FEMA to the border in order to help"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "facilitate the children going from one"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "72-hour"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "issue into where they are cared for as"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "they are transferred into family homes"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "or homes that are safe for them to be."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "And I have to confess, I knew nothing"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "about their suffering until 2021 when I"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "volunteered to help the Biden"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "administration with the crisis at the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "southern border. As part of Operation"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Artemis, I was deployed to the Pomona"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "Fairplex Emergency Intake Site in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "California to help HHS Office of Refugee"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Resettlement reunite children with"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "sponsors in the United States. I thought"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "I was going to help place children in"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "loving homes. Instead, I discovered that"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "children are being trafficked through a"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "sophisticated network that begins with"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "recruiting in home country, smuggling to"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "the US border, and ends when ORR"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "delivers a child to a sponsor. Some"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "sponsors are criminals and traffickers"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "and members of transnational criminal"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "organizations. Some sponsors view"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "children as commodities and assets to be"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "used for earning income. This is why we"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "are witnessing an explosion of labor"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "trafficking. Now, whether it's"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "intentional or not, it could be argued"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "that the United States government has"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "become the middleman in a largecale"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "multi-billion dollar child trafficking"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "operation that is run by bad actors"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "seeking to profit off of the lives of"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "children."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Russia said once they take Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Poland and the Baltics are next. Those"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "are NATO countries. That puts America at"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "war. This is about preventing war. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "always been about preventing war. My"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "husband is a combat veteran. He's"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "deployed now. The last thing I want him"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "or any of his military brothers and"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "sisters to do is to go to war."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> I think it is time to give the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Ukrainians more help uh hitting these"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "bases inside Russia. One of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "that the administration has hesitated is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "because they believe it will escalate"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "things even further with Russia. Pull"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the US further in. Why not? Why? So why"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "do you think that's a good idea?"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> Because it's Russia that has escalated"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "this war. Russia has learned how to pull"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "its forces back out of the range where"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "we have allowed Ukraine to use our"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "weapons and get our support. American"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "media outlets have spoken to scores of"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "people from Ukraine and they have done"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "scores of interviews with Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "President Silinski. We ourselves have"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "put in a request for an interview with"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Silinski. We hope he accepts. But the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "interviews he's already done in the"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "United States are not traditional"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "interviews. They are faing pep sessions"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "specifically designed to amplify"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Zalinsk's demand that the US enter more"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "pay for it. That is not journalism. It"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "is government propaganda. Propaganda of"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "the ugliest kind. The kind that kills"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "people. At the same time, our"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "politicians and media outlets have been"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "doing this, promoting a foreign leader"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "like he's a new consumer brand. Not a"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "single Western journalist has bothered"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "to interview the president of the other"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "country involved in this conflict,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Vladimir Putin. Most Americans have no"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "his goals are now. They've never heard"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "his voice. That's wrong. Americans have"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "a right to know all they can about a war"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "they're implicated in. And we have the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "right to tell them about it because we"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "are Americans, too."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> The idea that we're going to send in"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "offensive equipment and have planes and"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "tanks and trains going in with American"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "pilots and American crews. Just"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "understand and don't kid yourself no"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "matter what you all say. That's called"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "World War II. US official has confirmed"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "to CBS News President Biden has given"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "authorization for Kev to use US supplied"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "longrange weapons to strike deep into"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Russian territory."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "I'm sitting here with my father. I will"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "make certain that between the man"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "sitting next to me and every person he"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "knows and my ability to forever hold a"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "grudge that you will regret not"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "following my direction. I am sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "here waiting for the call with my"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "father."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "director?"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> I'm not going to get into company with"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> You you you seem deeply uncurious about"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "it, don't you? Almost suspiciously"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "uncurious. Are you protecting the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Bidens?"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Absolutely not. The FBI doesn't answer."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "You won't answer the question about"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "whether or not that's a shakeddown. And"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "everybody knows why you won't answer it."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Because to ev to the millions of people"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "who will see this, they know it is. And"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "your inability to acknowledge that is"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "deeply revealing about you."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "British police came into the embassy and"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "arrested."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> After a long flight from the UK, Julian"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Assange's day began on the island of"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Saipan, a tiny territory chosen because"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "it's the closest US court to Australia."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "This normally quiet courthouse swarming"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "with reporters as the Wikileaks founder"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "arrived flanked by former Prime Minister"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Kevin Rudd."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "The individual used an AR-15 in order to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "act out his assassination attempt. An"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "AR-15 has a range of about 4 to 600"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "yards. My question, why is the Secret"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Service protective perimeter"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "shorter than one of the most popular"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "semi-automatic weapons in the United"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "States? There are a number of weapons"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "out there uh with a number of ranges. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "again, an advance was completed. uh the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "determination of the perimeter. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "going to speak to specifics, but there"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "are a number of factors that are taken"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "into account when we determine our"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "perimeter. Some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "terrain, some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "buildings, some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "assets and resources uh that are"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "available. What I'm hearing is that a"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "perimeter was not established outdoors"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "in an outdoor venue that would prevent"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "an AR-15, which is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "common weapons used in mass shootings,"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "um, from being able to to be within the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "range of Secret Service protection."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Have you provided all audio and video"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "recordings in your possession to this"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "committee as we asked on July 15th? Yes"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "or no?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> I would have to get back to you."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": ">> That is a no. You're full of today."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "You're just being completely dishonest."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "So what is the threat to democracy?"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "People on both sides, people in power"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "saying out loud that they want to"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "control what you get to hear and see. It"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "is real. It is a threat"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "and it is happening and growing. And"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "I'll tell you what, punishing thought is"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "on the agenda. And I just heard it from"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "someone who's not a coupe, not Alex"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Jones, not Tucker Carlson, one of the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "most sober and intelligent politicians"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "of our time, Hillary Rodm Clinton."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> I think it's important to indict uh the"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Russians uh just as Mueller indicted a"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "lot of Russians uh who were engaged in"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "uh uh direct election interference and"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "think there are Americans who are uh"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "and whether they should be civily or"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "even in some cases criminally charged uh"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "is something that would be a better"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "deterrent. ETA CEO Mark Zuckerberg"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "admitted that the Biden administration"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "repeatedly pressured Meta to censor"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "content, including information about"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Hunter Biden. And Zuck admitted that he"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "also regrets complying with these"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "demands. In a letter to the House"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Judiciary Committee Chairman,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Representative Jim Jordan, Zuck writes,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "quote, \"The FBI warned us about a"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "potential Russian disinformation"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "operation about the Biden family and"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Berisma in the leadup to the 2020"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "election that fall when we saw a New"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "York Post story reporting on Joe Biden's"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "family. We sent that story to fact"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "checkers for review and temporarily"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "demoted it.\" You know, you do some"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "tweets that seem to be or at least give"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "support to some who would call others"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "conspiracy theories."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Well, yes, but I mean honestly, you"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "some of these conspiracy theories uh"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "have turned out to be true."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> Which ones?"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> Well, like the the Hunter Biden laptop."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:52", "text": ">> Well, I am in awe of Ms. Janowitz."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "When the department picked her, did did"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "it know that she had said that Mr."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "disinformation? Did it know that she had"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "vouched"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "for the veracity of the steel dossier?"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Uh, Senator, let me um repeat myself and"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "add an additional fact. Um, one, we do"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "not discuss internal hiring processes. I"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "think you've got no idea what"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "disinformation is and I don't think the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "government's capable of it. Do you know"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "who the greatest propagator of"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "disinformation in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "world is? The US government. Think of"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "all the debates and disputes we've had"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "over the last 50 years in our country."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "We work them out by debating them. We"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "don't work them out by the government"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "being the arbiter. I don't want you"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "guard rails. I want you to have nothing"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "to do with speech."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "to be a conspiracy theorist is to have"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "been right all along despite the efforts"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "of the paid for liars. And it's also to"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "be demonstrably well ahead of the"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "gullible still believing in smoke and"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "mirrors. conspiracy theorist was first"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "used by the CIA to shut down those who"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "doubted the official line about the"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "murder of John F. Kennedy. That fishy"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "old tale about a lone shooter and a"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "magic bullet and then that lone shooter"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "being shot by another lone shooter"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "before he could talk. That was in the"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "1960s. And from then, the label"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "conspiracy theorist worked for decades"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "as the means to make thinking people too"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "scared to speak when they smelt a rat."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Let 2024 be the year of clearing out the"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "rubbish, the trash, the long overdue"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "year when the pastor or sell by date"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "labels, conspiracy theorists among them,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "are cast into the dust bin of history."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "It is time to wake up. On this show, we"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "cover the stories the mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "won't touch live from the Rocky"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Mountains. Welcome to Redacted with"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "Natalie and Clayton Morris. Are you"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "ready? Let's get uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Let's get uncomfortable. Welcome into"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "the show on this Thursday. We've got a"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "very busy show for you. Thank you guys"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "for subscribing and being a part of our"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "community. What the hell is happening"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "with this war in Iran? Has it been"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "averted? If you read the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "media accounts of all of this, Benjamin"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Netanyahu came to Washington or phoned"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "up President Trump and called it off on"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "his terms. Well, that that's actually"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "not true at all, but of course, the"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "mockingb bird media is running with this"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "story. But we're going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "what's really going on because we've got"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "a former uh CIA intelligence officer"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "here um to break it all down for us"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "who's been watching this very very"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "closely."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": ">> Uh plus you might have noticed that"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "precious metals are through the roof,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "not just silver and gold, but also"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "copper. Why is that happening? Is that"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "in an indication about the US dollar and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "economic collapse? It does seem like"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "that. We're going to talk to Peter"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Schiff, an e expert about this. We're"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "excited about that."}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> We're also going to talk about an uh"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "Australia's anti-semitism laws. They're"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "moving forward. Yesterday a couple of"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "our viewers said, \"Hey, Redacted, will"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "you guys cover the draconian"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "anti-semitism laws in Australia?\" And uh"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "yes, we have been covering them, but we"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "are going to be covering them today on"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "the show because they are getting very"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "close to appearing before parliament"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "next week. This would be unbelievable"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "crazy hate speech laws and it just"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "ridiculous. So, we're going to talk"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "about all of that. Plus, Alberta's"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "secessionist movement in Canada is"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "gaining a lot of steam. people by the"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "thousands lined up to sign that"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "independence petition to break free of"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "Canada of Canada's tyrannical regime."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "So, will it become its own country very"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "soon? All of that and more as redacted"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "starts right now. But before we get to"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "that, we want to tell you about our"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "friends over at Bare Skin because you"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "guys know all about the the bare skin"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "hoodie. Oh, that's you. Sorry,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": ">> that was to me. That's me."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": ">> Sorry, I didn't have my glasses on."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": ">> Okay. Well, I'm going to tell you about"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "bare skin because I took my bare skin on"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "a walk today here in the Rocky Mountains"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "with my dog. Uh, we saw a wolf. I don't"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "know if I was camouflaged with I don't"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "think I was. It doesn't actually do"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "that. What it does do is keep the wind"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "and the rain out of which we have a lot."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "Uh, it's comfortable. It's great for"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "layers. It's not like a puff coat where"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "you're sweating and you can't breathe."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "It breathes beautifully. Uh, and they've"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "got a great lineup. Also, they've got"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "those popular patches on the side. You"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "can switch those out for whatever you'd"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "like to signal to the world. It's very"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "fashionable, very functionable, and very"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "warm. Uh, so check them out. Go to"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "bear.skin/redacted."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Or you can text redacted to 36912."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "You'll get 60% off the bare skin hoodie"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "today. Now, Grim, who works in Florida,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "he's on our on our team. He says he's"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "going to need a bare skin cuz it's like"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "30° in Florida. Whatever will you guys"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "do? Well, if you don't have a bare skin,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "you're not prepared to layer up. But if"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "you do, you are. So, check out their"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "buffet of offerings. You'll be so glad"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "you did. Go to bear.skin/redacted"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "um or text redacted to 36912."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "I am going to have to look up what are"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "best practices when you're walking and a"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "wolf crosses your path with a dog"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "because our dog is a starter. And"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "uh I I'm very much worried. So, if you"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "have suggestions on what I need to do in"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "that scenario, never come across it"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> I would assume it was a coyote because"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "you won't see a wolf unless they want"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "you to."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> Um, it was much bigger than a coyote."}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "And we and they have the the wolf"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "release program here. So, they've been"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "warning us about Anyhow."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": ">> Yeah. I I will take your tips."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I saw a coyote the other"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "day. Much smaller, scragglier, but they"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "can get pretty big. But no, this was a"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "wolf. Uh, very very large. So anyway,"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "let us know in the chat room. If you"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "come across a wolf and you've got a"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "little dog that wants to start"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "what do you do?"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> I have had Bear come across that I was"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "with a child and not a dog."}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": ">> You know what we should do is rename our"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "dog Grover to Bby."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": ">> BBE because he's little, he thinks he's"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "bigger and he wants to he wants to start"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "and he wants to start with"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": ">> Yeah, he does. He does."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": ">> And prairie dogs are Palestinians,"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what he goes after all the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "damn time. All right. Well, let's talk"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> Well, it is clear that Israel is calling"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "the shots for a war with Iran. We have"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "two conflicting stories from major news"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "outlets. What they have in common is"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that it's Netanyahu who continues to"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "make the decisions here, not President"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Trump. Now, before we get excited, it's"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "worth remembering that the last time"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "that Trump and Netanyahu promised not to"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "bomb Iran, they turned around and did"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "it. So, we can't pretend that they're"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "not bluffing this time. It would be a"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "fool me twice situation on our part."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "Here's what the major reports are and"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "then we're going to break them down. The"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "New York Times is reporting that"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Netanyahu has now asked Trump not to"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "bomb Iran. The reporting is that Israel"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "is not ready to stand the retaliation"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "that inevitably would come from Iran."}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "Now, this comes right after the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "Washington Post reported this. They say"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "that a few weeks ago, Israel sent a"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "delegation to Russia to en assure Iran"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "that Israel does not intend to strike"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "unless they are struck first. On its"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "face, that sounds like reasonable"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "deescalation, but it's not because at"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "the very same moment Netanyahu was in"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Washington prompting President Trump to"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "strike Iran. So, you see what's"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "happening here. Israel is pretending"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "that they won't initiate the war on its"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "on its own so long as they can get the"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "US to do it for them. Now, why would"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Israel bother with this trickery? Mostly"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "for the PR of it. Because of Gaza, they"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "realize that they can't be seen as the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "continual aggressors. But that's clearly"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "what they want. Here's how the Post puts"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "it. That they want to desire to avoid"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "being perceived"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "as escalating tensions. Not that they"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "don't want to escalate. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "the perception. So, if you can get your"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": " the United States, to do it for"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "you, you're in the clear, right? Uh, but"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "they really do want to escalate those"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "tensions. Now, is Iran falling for this?"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "According to the Post, they are not."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "Iranian officials responded positively"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "to this Israeli outreach, but they are"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "wary. Obviously, Iran believed that if"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "the Israeli I lost my place as"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "assurances were genuine. They leave open"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "the possibility that the US would carry"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "out attacks on Iran as part of a"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "campaign between these two allies. So,"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "they know that these two, and by these"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "two it's the US and Israel, are not to"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "be trusted."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's bring in Larry Johnson,"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "former CIA intelligence officer now to"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "dissect all of this. Uh, great to see"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "you, Larry. Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> Hey, guys. Hey, let me just let me just"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "add actually I have a bare skin hoodie"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "and I've got two pairs of bare skin"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "pants. They they do work as advertised."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": ">> fantastic. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:58", "text": ">> Do they ward off wolves? That's the real"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "question. Well,"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": ">> that's that's why I carry a sidearm. I'd"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "recommend carrying, you know. Okay. A"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "nice nice 45 caliber 1911."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:10", "text": ">> Yeah. When you're walking. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "exactly. I mean, these deer also come"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "after you crazy, too, with the um"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> and the elk. Um, hey, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "yesterday I just want to point out,"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "Larry, uh, yesterday speaking to Colonel"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "or hearing from Colonel Douglas"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "McGregor, he said, you know, when asked"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "about the intelligence back back and"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "forth, what's going on with these"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "players behind the scenes, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "Israel getting busted and all in all of"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "this on the streets of Iran, uh, Colonel"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "McGregor said, \"I'm not plugged into the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "intelligence community. There's one"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "person that I trust, and that's Larry"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "Johnson. If you want to get to the the"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "bottom of that, Larry Johnson is your"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "guy.\" So, guess what? Larry Johnson is"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "on the show today. Um, so Larry, you"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "hear these the New York Times, the"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "Washington Post with their stories. I"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "got off the phone about 20 minutes ago"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "from a source who told me that Israel"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "got busted and Putin was furious about"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "this. It was really the"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "behind-the-scenes work of Putin and some"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "of the Middle East allies that actually"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "stopped this from happening. What do you"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": ">> Well, u, yeah, I think I think that"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "that's definitely um, part of the story."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Let's go back to December 28th, Sunday,"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "when uh Donald Trump's meeting with"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "Wimir Zalinski. Uh that day, an an"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "economic operation was launched, an"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "economic attack on Iran that fell the a"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "dramatic fall in the price of their"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "currency. Uh and the Iranian economy is"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "small enough that an organization like"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "the CIA working with Israel can"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "basically spend some time in advance buy"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "you buy up a large number of of the"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "currency of Iran and then when you dump"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "it on the market and sell it the price"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "goes through the floor. That sparked"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "legitimate economic protests."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "But this was programmed by the I believe"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "by the CIA and by Mossad to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "start the fire and then bring in the"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "kindling and the gasoline to pour on it."}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "And the kindling and gasoline came from"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "a variety of sources. You've got Kurds,"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "ethnic Kurds that are in Iran and"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "they've got ties across border. They"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "were uh being asked paid uh to uh commit"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "acts of violence."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "uh they were they they were given"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "Starlink terminals so that they could be"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "in communication with foreign assets"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "that were directing them. Similarly with"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "the group called the mech, the mujahadin"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "al- khalk. Uh they are were designated"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "by the United States as a terrorist"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "group in 1997."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "Even though that group had existed since"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "1964,"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "they were described as a Marxist"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Islamist group that carried out acts of"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "violence against US citizens and against"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "Iranian citizens both under the shaw and"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "under the Ayatollah. Well, in 2004, the"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "CIA lined them up, put them in a camp,"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "trained them in Albania, and started"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "using them to carry out terrorist"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "attacks in Iran. And uh then in 2012, we"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "finally took them off the terrorist list"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "because they're no longer terrorists."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "They're our guys. Um, so and then out in"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "western or in eastern Iran, you've got"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "the the Baluchis in Baluchistan, and"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "they have had a long long-term"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "relationship with the CIA. I know that"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "firsthand from one of my buddies back in"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "1980 when we were planning the rescue"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "operation uh to try to free the US"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "diplomats that had been taken hostage at"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "the embassy. Uh, one of the means of"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "communications was from rugs that were"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "coming from Beluchucha Stan to a rug"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "shop in Bethesda, Maryland, right behind"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "my house uh, on Wisconsin Avenue. It was"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "called Parvesian."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "And the the messages were hidden in"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "those rugs. So, what I'm saying is there"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "there's not just one ethnic group. You"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "got a variety of ethnic groups that have"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "had ties to these um uh to to foreign"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "intelligence. They inflamed the"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "situation and the the plan I believe now"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "watching what has happened the plan was"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "that the government was going to be put"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "into such a degree of chaos that when we"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "launched the military strikes yesterday"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "then that would have brought the whole"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "house down. Well, it it failed. The the"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "operation to destabilize Iran"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "started collapsing last Friday. Um the"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "Iranian security forces they discovered"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "the Starlink terminals. Uh Russia and"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "China were helping them with electronic"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "warfare counter measures. Yes."}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": ">> To block those. Uh and as they started"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "blocking those the people stopped"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "showing up in the streets and this the"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "IRGC and the and and the Bajis uh they"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "started cracking down on on the ones who"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "were carrying out violence against uh"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "against Iranians. So what happened"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "yesterday"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "was also it was exacerbated by uh that"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "Saudi Arabia Qatar and uh Turkey both"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "told the United States you're not flying"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "over our territory to do this. And I"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "think part of that was pressure that the"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "Russians was bringing on to all of them"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "because what what what Russia knows is"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "that it's now invested heavily in Iran"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "as is China. They're not going to let"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "the United States attack Iran and just"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "try to destroy it. Now, the other"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "element that's at play here is that uh"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "45%"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "of the daily production of oil in the"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "world comes out of the Persian Gulf."}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "Iran can close the straight of Hormuz in"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "a heartbeat. Once that's closed, all of"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "a sudden 45% of the oil that's out in"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "the world no longer there. What does"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "that do to the price of oil? Sends it"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "into the into space."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:02", "text": ">> And u it is it would be good for Russia"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "because you know now the price of oil is"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "$150 a barrel but it's going to have a"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "devastating impact impact on other"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "economies both in in causing inflation"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "and forcing embassy industries to shut"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "down. So this very complex picture, but"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "this simplistic crap that was being spun"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "in the west that all we got to do is,"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "you know, put enough pressure and the"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "Ayatollah is going to flee to Moscow."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "Nonsense,"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": ">> right? But Russia did prop up Syria and"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "the Assad government for so long until"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "they just couldn't do it anymore. So is"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "this the delicate balance by which Iran"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "hangs in the in the the fate of a"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "possible Assad government? What what's"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "the difference here?"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": ">> Yeah. The the difference is"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Bashar al-Assad didn't want to listen."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "You know, the Russians said, \"Hey, we'll"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "help you. Let let us come in and"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "assist.\""}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": ">> And and and Assad said, \"You know, I"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "don't You're not old enough to remember,"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "Natalie, but in the 60s there's this"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "television commercial for Eedran, and as"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "part of it, there was a mother talking"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "to her daughter, and the daughter would"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "go, \"Mother, please, I'd rather do it"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "myself.\" Well, that that was Syria."}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Okay, they told mother Russia, \"We'd"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "rather do it oursself.\" Well, that"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "didn't turn out so well. Iran, in this"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "case, uh they had actually told Russia"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "something similar prior to the 12-day"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "war in June. Russia had offered a"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "military alliance, and the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "said, \"No, no, no. We we'd rather do it"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "on our own.\" on June 25th when that when"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "that war came to an end, that brief uh"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "conflict, uh Iran went back to Russia,"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "said uh hey uh guys, that offer you made"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "that sounded really good. Let's do that."}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "And so what you've had since then is"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "extensive cooperation between Russia and"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "China. So Iran is actually in a much"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "stronger position now than it was say on"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "June 12th of 2025. Now, can I ask you?"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Lindsey Graham took to X and said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "this idea that our Arab allies have"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "intervened on behalf of Iran is beyond"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "disturbing.\" Now, when something"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "disturbs him, I usually am for it."}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": ">> That's my general rule."}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> But is he thwarting something? Does"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Lindsey Graham know anything or do we"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "have to worry about what this uh"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "bloodthirsty demon wants to happen?"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": ">> No. No. I think I think it act it"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "actually corroborates the other press"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "reports you guys were citing at the"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "outset that that in fact these Arab"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "nations did tell Trump, hey,"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": ">> we're not you can't use our aerospace."}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "You're not going to do this. One of the"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "things that both China and Russia have"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "brokered in the course of the last two"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "years was u a new alliance between uh"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "Iran and Saudi Arabia. You know,"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "previously uh the the Saudis were being"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "used by the United States as a as a"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "means to attack Iran and it and the"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "proxy war was being fought out in Yemen."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "But uh thanks to the intervention of"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "Moscow and Beijing, you now have uh"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "Iran, you know, the defense minister"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "from Iran has visited Saudi Arabia, vice"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "versa. President Beskin has met uh with"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "MBS Muhammad bin Salman. So they"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "recognize they are not enemies as they"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "were in the past. So uh and and the"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "Saudis also I think are looking at very"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "practically. Um they are the largest"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "producer in the in in in the world. They"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "do like 10.4"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "million barrels of oil per day. Russia"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "does 10.3 million barrels of oil per"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "day. And if the straight of Hermuz is"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "closed, you know, Saudi Arabia's got"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "some sign taking some significant"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "economic losses over that. They don't"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "want that. And I think uh they recognize"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "Iran now is in a stronger position than"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "it was in June to fight back and fight"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "back decisively. And they've made I"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "think they've made it clear we will"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "close those straits in a heartbeat."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": ">> What does I mean from an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "perspective, what are you hearing that"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "Israel would do next? Because we heard"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "reports today, who knows if there's any"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "truth to this being tied to some sort of"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "a nuclear test at Deona inside of"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "Israel. The We all pretend that Israel"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "doesn't have a nuclear,"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": ">> You know, nuclear arsenal cuz you're not"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": ">> Deona is what they told JFK was a"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "textile factory."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we there's reports of an"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "earthquake from possible nuclear"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "testing. I don't know if this is saber"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "rattling on Israel's part. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "But what are you hearing from an"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "intelligence perspective that Israel"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "would do next? I mean, if the United"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "States and Israel cannot stop hypersonic"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "missiles coming into Israel and Russia"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "is saying, \"Don't even think about it.\""}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "Are we at a stalemate here?"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": ">> Uh, no. Um,"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "because I actually I think I think we're"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "ultimately still going to attack"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "we're we are so gaslit in the West about"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "Iran. I I was on and I'll tell you off"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "air who it was, but I was in a"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "conference call on Tuesday with a"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "retired US general, very respected,"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "wellrespected, knowledgeable guy, and"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "and he started describing why we needed"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "to, you know, why Iran had to be taken"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "out because it's killed thousands of"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "Americans. So I started doing the"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "research. Uh the Iranian government"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "since 19 u 8079"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "the Iranian government has not"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "identified as having killed one"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "American. the Iranian government. Now,"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "Iranian proxies, Hamas, Hezbollah, uh"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "they they have killed in terms of"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "civilians, wait for it, the total number"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "of civilians killed by these Iranian"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "proxies,"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "100, less than 100. The number of"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "soldiers, US soldiers killed by proxies"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "in Iraq in particular, uh is a thousand,"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "less than a thousand. So, what we're"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "looking at total from Iranian terrorism"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "over the years, uh, less than 2,000"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "actual fatal American fatalities. Now,"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "look at it from the Iranian standpoint."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "It was the US that went to Saddam"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Hussein and said, \"Hey buddy, we'll"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "provide you with all those precursor"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "chemicals you need to make mustard gas.\""}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "He did, and he killed at least 500,000"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "Iranians."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "So when you're weighing the total in"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "terms of who's been killing more of the"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "other side, it is the United States"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "that's got the most blood on its hands,"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "not Iran. And yet we persist with this"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "lie that Iran is a terrorist state. I"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "challenge anybody. Show me the numbers."}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "I'm born and raised in Missouri. Show me"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "state. Show me the actual numbers."}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "Because in terms of attacks on"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "Americans, what Iran has done, they what"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "they've what those groups that they've"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "supported, they've attacked military"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "targets. And I put, look, I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "that I'm supported their attack on the"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "Marines like at the Marine Barrack in"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "Lebanon. But when you're wearing a"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "uniform and you get to carry guns,"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "that's called war. And even if it's an"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "unconventional warfare, you're still a"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "legitimate target. It's not like"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "carrying a bomb into a pizza restaurant"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "and blowing up a bunch of civilians."}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": ">> Absolutely. And we have to, if we're"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "doing this calculation of lives, we then"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "have to calculate how and a retaliation"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "from Iran would then cost American lives"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "as well. And it's not just civilian"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "lives because"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:38", "text": ">> well, all these bases there, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "how many"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:41", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, how many how many, as"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "you've said multiple times on our show"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "over the years. I mean, these as as"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "President Biden even said, it's not a"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "matter of if they get attacked, it's a"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "matter of when because they know if they"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "want to use these Americans as cannon"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "fodder in these bases that are all"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "throughout the region. Just put them"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "there,"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:57", "text": ">> wait for them to be attacked, and then"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "we can use that as a false flag to go"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "in. Yeah. And notice that Iran did not"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "the only base it attacked and that was"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "sort of a coordinated Kabuki theater"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "with the United States on June 24th when"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "they did launch missiles and they took"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "out a satellite system at Aluded Air"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "Force Base. Uh but uh you know Aluded is"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "the main naval facility in Bahrain that"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "we didn't touch that the Iranians didn't"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "touch. So uh Iran the the big difference"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "now is that Iran is ready to respond and"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "retaliate in a very forceful way. There"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "was there was a dispute an argument"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "within the Iranian government. They felt"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "that they should have continued pressing"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "forward. Now this this comes back into"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "your original question. What's Israel up"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "to? Uh the worst case is Israel faced"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "with an existential threat where they're"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "about to uh see their entire society"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "collapse would be tempted to use a"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "nuclear weapon. Yes. But that comes at a"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "at a potential very high cost when"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "you've got countries such as North Korea"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "and Pakistan who are also nuclear powers"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "threatening to retaliate if if if Iran"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "is nuked. So it's a very dangerous"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "situation. And what's unfortunate is"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "Donald Trump's in a position where he"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "could actually be a leader in making"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "peace, bringing Iran back into the the"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "world, a civilized world, but he's not"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "doing that."}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": ">> Yeah. And I spoke to a a source inside"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "of Tel Aviv yesterday who said, \"We"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "can't stop. They're going to throw"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "everything they have at us here in Tel"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "Aviv. They're going to destroy us and we"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "can't stop it.\" And the Iron Dome, he"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "this per this source said the Iron Dome"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "is essentially a joke against hypersonic"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "missiles, of course. So,"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:40", "text": ">> we know that that's the case. So,"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:42", "text": ">> uh don't don't poke the bear at this"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "stage. Um Larry Johnson, always great to"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "see you."}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": ">> Well, can I just before we let him go,"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "he says, \"Oh, we will attack.\" He did"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "say you did say that, right? We may not"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "be doing it this time because of these"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "deterrents. But can you finish that"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "please?"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Will who uh identify for me the"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "voices in the US Congress either"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "senators or congress uh members house of"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "members of the house of representatives"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "or any leading pundits that are allowed"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "on the television networks that are"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "saying, \"Hey, Iran's not our enemy. we"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "we need to find a way to accommodate and"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "work with them. No, no, no. It's just"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "the opposite. They are constantly being"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "portrayed as the enemy as somebody we've"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "got to stop at any cost. And so that's"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "why I say we're we're going to attack"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "them. They're just we're going to"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "they're going to look for the next"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "excuse. But uh the way to tell if we're"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "going to back off is if this current"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "deployment because you got another"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "aircraft carrier task force group headed"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "to uh the the Persian Gulf or the Indian"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "Ocean. Uh if that's called off and"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "turned around, then I say, \"Okay, uh"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "we're we're backing off.\" But I I don't"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "see that happening. So if we see the"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "continued buildup and if the military"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "forces that were evacuated yesterday are"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "not sent back to those bases, then"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "you'll know that"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "we're just we're paying lip service to"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "peace because we're going to go to war"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": ">> and we're hanging in the balance. Thank"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "you so much for that assessment. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "didn't like hearing it, but I appreciate"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:20", "text": ">> it's coming. It's coming. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": ">> Larry, always great to see you. Thank"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "you so much as always."}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": ">> All right, guys. Thanks so much. really"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "appreciate it. Read his great website as"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "well. Um, we'll have it linked up. Read"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "Sonar 21 because he does an incredible"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "job um and analyzing all of these"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "pieces. Former CIA intelligence officer"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "Larry Johnson. All right. Coming up on"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "the show, we're going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "silver exploding. Does that mean bank"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "collapses are coming? Some economists,"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "some analysts are saying that this is"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "proof that we are about to see some"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "major trouble in the banking industry."}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "If you haven't been buying precious"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "metals, uh, I don't know what you've"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "been waiting for because here we go. But"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "we are in for some trouble. Peter Schiff"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "is going to join us in moments. But"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "first,"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": ">> but first, hey, is 2026 the year where"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "you grow your online business, where you"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "start your online business? Well, if"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "you're going to do that, you need to go"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "to Shopify. Shopify will help you"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "because they have everything you need to"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "start and grow your business. 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Uh, easy to make your sale,"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "easy to present your store in a lovely"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "manner, and easy to get customer"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "support. we can have an idea here on the"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "show for a hat or a t-shirt and get it"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "online in really short order because"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "Shopify helps us. So check them out. You"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "can sign up for a one month trial period"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "today if you use the code redacted or go"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "to shopify.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "And again, they have everything you"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "need. Millions of entrepreneurs have"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "already made this leap from household"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "names like Redacted, we would hope, to"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "firsttime business owners just getting"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "started. So again, head on over to"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "shopify.com/redacted"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "to start your business or grow your"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "business today. Shopify.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": ">> Well, with silver and gold prices"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "surging, are we about to see the banking"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "collapses across the United States? And"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "the math goes something like this from"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "keen eyed analysts on silver production."}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "So 800 million ounces a year being"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "produced in silver. I mean, we we we"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "know it's a scarce resource at this"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "point. companies are clamoring to get as"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "much of it as they can in their hands"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "right now. Everything from solar panels"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "to EVs, of course, it's also a commodity"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "in addition to a currency. Um, so 800"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "million ounces per year. Bank shorts on"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "silver 4.4 billion ounces according to"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "some reports. If so, by this estimation,"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "if silver keeps going up, the biggest"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "banks in America will collapse. Who's"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "going to how are they going to cover"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "these shorts? Some investors are seeing"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "a big trap here. Many banks are barely"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "covering their asses to stay afloat. Um,"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "and I just want to pull up here. Uh, see"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "if I can get my gold numbers up here."}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "Just take a look at gold and silver"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "today. And just take a look at this. So,"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "here's gold's price right now, $4600."}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "It bounced back from a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "down yesterday. And then look at silver"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "on the right side of your screen, $92 an"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "ounce right now. So, we want to bring in"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "Peter Schiff, who's a silver gold"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "expert, an economist. Um, he is the"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "author of The Real Crash: How to Save"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "Yourself and Your Country. Here is the"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "book. Go out and pick it up right now."}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "America's coming bankruptcy. Peter has"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "been you've been predicting this for for"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "uh I mean, I don't want to say a few"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "months, maybe a few short years here"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "about what's coming here and we've all"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "it's all been sort of like a shell game"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "being hidden. Peter, welcome back to the"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "show. What do you think is going to"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "happen with these bank collapses?"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "Well, I mean, first of all, that book"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "was from 2013, so obviously it was a bit"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "premature. Uh, but it was right on"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "target. In fact, if you read that book"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "today, you'll understand exactly what's"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "going on right now and why and where"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "we're headed. And of course, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "predicted that uh the price of gold and"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "silver uh would rise substantially. And"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "now we're seeing that. I mean, gold"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "prices uh in the last year alone have"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "more than doubled and silver prices have"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "practically tripled. Uh but to me this"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "is a major warning of a serious uh"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "financial crisis, economic crisis that's"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "coming. It reminds me of the ' 07"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "warning we got from subprime. Uh because"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "when the subprime market blew up in"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "2007, very few people understood the"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "significance of what that meant,"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "including the Fed. Remember Ben Bernaki"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "said, \"Don't worry about it. It's"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "contained to subprime.\" But when"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "subprime blew up, that was something I"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "had been waiting for, predicting. I was"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "short the market. So, I knew it was"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "coming, but I also knew the"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "significance. And once I saw that, I"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "started uh increasing my warnings of the"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "financial crisis uh that was coming. And"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "I was right. It happened a year later."}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "And I think that what we're seeing now"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "in gold and silver is a similar warning."}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "But it's not about mortgage credit. It's"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "about the US government sovereign"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "credit. So gold and silver soaring are"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "indicating a dollar crisis and a US"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "Treasury crisis that are coming and"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "maybe they'll hit next year, but that's"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "not a lot of time. Uh and and and people"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "need to take action while they can."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> Now, a lot of our debt is allowable"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "because we are able to trade global"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "currencies and so that allows"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "politicians to continue to spend in a"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "way they wouldn't otherwise be able to."}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "So, can you connect this to the crisis"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "in Venezuela where Venezuela had oil was"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "trading around the pro dollar and"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "shrinking our ability to continue to"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "borrow which would in fact lead by many"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "economists, this is not my estimation,"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "uh lead to a reduced a deflation of the"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "dollar, reduced global power. Uh is that"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "what you see is could lead to this"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "crisis? Is that what you're referring"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "to?"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": ">> Well, that's already happening. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "the main reason that gold moved up as"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "much as it did is because foreign"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "central banks are buying gold instead of"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "US treasuries. And so, they're moving"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "out of dollars into gold. Uh, clearly,"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "we went into Venezuela because we we"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "want their oil. Uh, we're trying to keep"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "the price of oil down. It's one of the"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "only commodities that's not going way"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "up. Uh, because it's not just precious"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "metals. I mean, it's all metals. And now"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "we're seeing agricultural commodities."}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "And soon, uh, we're going to see energy"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "as well, oil and gas. Um but it's not"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "going to uh be enough uh to uh you know"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "save the dollar the US dollar as the"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "reserve currency. I think uh that status"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "has been lost. We just haven't uh fully"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "uh you know you know reap the"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "consequences of that. Uh but we're going"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "to see that uh in in in short order when"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "we see a a much more meaningful decline"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "in the dollar relative to other foreign"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "currencies and we see that impact on"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "consumer prices and interest rates,"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "meaning consumer prices and interest"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "rates will be moving substantially"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "higher. So if people think there's a"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "affordability crisis now, they ain't"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "seen nothing yet."}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:40", "text": ">> Let's talk about the silver piece that I"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "outlined at the beginning here. this"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "idea that many of these banks are short"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "precious metals, they're short silver"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "and are we about to see a run on that? I"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "mean, if silver hits not, you know, goes"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "over 100, hits 105, like what happens to"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "these banks? Well, you know, I I think"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "that the people who are short silver,"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "who don't actually own the silver,"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "right? They're, you know, some people"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "have silver that they've hedged, but"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "speculative short positions, I think"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "those short sellers are in a lot of"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "trouble. Uh, they're losing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "money now and they're going to lose even"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "more money in the near future. Now,"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "whether it's enough to bankrupt some of"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "the banks that may have underwritten, I"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "I I don't think so, but it's certainly"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "enough to create losses. And the banks"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "are going to have a lot of problems,"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "too. Not just uh losses on short silver"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "positions. I mean, they their loan books"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "are going to blow up. Uh real estate"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "prices are going to start to fall. Uh"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "commercial has already fallen, but"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "residential is still a bubble. Uh with"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "the air yet to come out. Uh so there's a"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "lot of bad debt on the books of banks."}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "Uh I think the banking system"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "fundamentally is in worse shape now than"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "it was before the 2008 financial crisis."}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "Very few people appreciate the"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "precarious position of the US banking"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "system. In fact, that is one of the"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "reasons that the Fed is cutting rates."}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "That's one of the reasons that the Trump"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "administration wants lower rates is to"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "prop up the banks."}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:09", "text": ">> So, what are the mechanics of this then"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "for the average person? You know, we've"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "got tens of thousands of people watching"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "How does this affect them personally?"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "Like the the, you know, the husband and"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "wife with two kids, they they they work,"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "you know, they work jobs, they got kids"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "going to school, they got soccer"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "practice and all of that. How is this"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "materially going to affect them if we"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "see this major collapse?"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:31", "text": ">> Well, most Americans don't understand"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "the degree to which the US dollars"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "reserve status is responsible for their"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "standard of living. But most of the"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "stuff that we consume in America, the"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "products are not made in America, right?"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "They're they're imported. And how do we"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "pay for these imports? Well, we create"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "dollars out of thin air. Um, and the"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "world is willing to accept those dollars"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "because of the dollar's unique position"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "in the world. If we didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "reserve currency and we wanted to import"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "stuff, we'd have to export stuff of"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "equal value to pay for it. The problem"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "is our economy does not produce uh"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "nearly enough stuff to pay for all the"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "things that that we that we import, but"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "we're able to get away with it because"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "of the dollar status. So in other words,"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "we live way beyond our means and that's"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "been enabled by the rest of the world"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "that lives beneath its means and accepts"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "dollars in exchange for real real goods."}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "But as the dollar collapses and the"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "world moves away from the dollar, uh"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "that you know knocks the support from"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "under our you know our economy and the"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "the people in your example are going to"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "feel that because now the dollars that"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "they earn, the dollars that they saved"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "will buy a lot less and so everything is"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "going to be a lot more expensive. I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "not talking about the type of price"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "increases we saw during the Biden years"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "or what we may be seeing now, but"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "something on an order on an order of"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "magnitude much larger. I could see"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:12", "text": ">> give an example like um like a $15"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "hamburger at McDonald's."}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:16", "text": ">> It could become it could become a 30 or"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "a $50 hamburger, right? It going to"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "McDonald's may be like going to a fancy"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "restaurant,"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:24", "text": ">> right? I mean, that's massive deflation"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "of the US dollar's buying power at the"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "same time as inflation of pricing. So,"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "what you think you make, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "make a third of that in terms of"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "purchasing power, right? So, how do you"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "prepare for that?"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, and of course, you know,"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "some prices will go up more than others."}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "I mean, like if you want to get a"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "haircut, right, that's s a local service"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "provided by, you know, a local, you"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "know, barber. So, I don't think the cost"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "of a haircut will go up nearly as much"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "as the cost of, you know, buying"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "yourself some shampoo, right? That"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "products, goods prices are going to rise"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "a lot faster than than service prices,"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "which of course is a problem if you're"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "the barber, right? Because now your"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "income that you get cutting hair is not"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "going up nearly as much as your cost of"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "living. So, that's going to be a big"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "problem for a lot of people. Maybe their"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "wages will go up, but not as much as the"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "price of everything they have to buy."}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:20", "text": ">> So, we'll get you out of here on this,"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "Peter. I mean, I've been saying for"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "years, like, please do not put your"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "family's future tie, please do not tie"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "your family's future to the US dollar."}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "You know, investing in gold, investing"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "in silver, having precious metals which"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "have sustained for 5,000 years. Is that"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "still a smart play at this stage?"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "Yeah. I mean, look, I I gold and silver"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "prices, if you go back to the beginning"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "of uh this uh millennium, century, you"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "know, 1999, 2000, 2001, silver was under"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "$5 an ounce. Now it's over 90. Um gold"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "was under 300. Now it's over 4,600."}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "So, gold and silver have done better"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "than the stock market. People want to"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "make a big deal about the Dow almost"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "being 50,000 and it was 10,000. All"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "right. So, the Dow is up 5x, but gold"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "and silver are up more than 10x. And so,"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "that means that the Dow is worth less"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "than half of what it was back then in"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "terms of real money. And those trends"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "are going to continue. So, you got to"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "keep getting out of of of your paper"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "into real money. Uh, you know, I've got"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "a company, Shift Gold. I would suggest"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "that your listeners go to shiftgold.com"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "right now and buy gold and silver and in"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "fact silver you know I think in a couple"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "of months we may not have much silver"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "left you know we're running low on"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "supplies because there's only so much"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "that's you know that's that's minted you"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "know the the markets are not prepared uh"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "for the demand surge uh that that is"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "coming but I think the real real"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "opportunity for people who you know have"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "a little bit more of a risk-taking"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "mentality I look at gold and silver as"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "conservative stores of value. But gold"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "mining stocks and silver mining stocks,"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "yeah, they've tripled this year, but"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "given how much gold and silver have gone"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "up, these stocks are actually cheaper"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "now than before they triple. The thing"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "is, Wall Street hasn't woken up to that"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "yet. So, I think there's still an"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "incredible opportunity for people to buy"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "these mining companies that are"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "literally, you know, gold mines. They"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "are now making a fortune uh mining gold"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "and silver because their costs are about"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "the same if not a little lower than they"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "were a year ago, but they're getting so"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "much more money for every ounce they"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "pull out of the ground. So, people"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "should be looking, you know, go to"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "Europeific Asset Management. We have"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "separately managed strategies in gold"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "and silver companies. I manage a gold"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "fund, EPGIX,"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "uh is the no-load symbol. You can buy it"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "at any discount brokerage firm. Uh we've"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "got a great portfolio, especially a lot"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "of junior mining stocks that haven't"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "moved nearly as much yet, but I think"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "they're going to be the the rock stars"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "at 2026. So, it's a great time to get"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "into my fund because we're broadly"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "diversified. We have nice positions in"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "in in the juniors as well as the"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "mid-tier and the senior gold companies."}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "Again, the symbol is EPGIX."}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "And you can also get more information on"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "that fund in all my mutual funds. You"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "know, even my dividend payers, just"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "foreign stocks, my foreign dividend"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "payer fund was up 62% last year,"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "something like that. I mean, that that"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "gives you an idea of the type of returns"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "now that investors are earning outside"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "the United States. I think it's now a"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "race to get out of the dollar, to get"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "out of US stocks, to get out of US"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "bonds. We have a real crisis coming and"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "we can't, you know, we can't do anything"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "to prevent it, but we can do something"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "to protect ourselves. And then hopefully"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "in the future uh we could use the wealth"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "that we've uh accumulated uh to help the"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "country because the country is going to"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "be in a lot of trouble and the the fewer"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "Americans who go broke, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "better."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Well said. Yeah. These junior"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "mining stocks, I think you're absolutely"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "spot on about that. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "technically a gold mine at this point"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "because they're so underpriced. Peter,"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "great to see you. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "your insights on this and uh as a being"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "a soothsayer for many many years on"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "this. Really appreciate it. We'll have"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "everything linked up in our description"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "as well. So, Peter, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "Thank you so much for your insights. We"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "know you got to jump."}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:25", "text": ">> Um, my pleasure. Thanks for having me on"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "and making me a part of uh of of your uh"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "program here."}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": ">> Really appreciate it. Thanks, Peter."}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "Thanks for coming back. All right, we"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "got more news to get to here. We're"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:37", "text": ">> What do you think of that $30 like"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "hamburgers McDonald's level? Well,"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "Anthony,"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": ">> just based on the based on the new"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "nutrition guidelines, I mean, that's not"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "even one piece of chicken, one piece of"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "broccoli, one flour tortilla, and some"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "one other thing. That's half of a piece"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "of chicken and half of a piece of"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "broccoli. Like, we're doing great."}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": ">> Anthony Pompiano, friend of the show,"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "Anthony Pompiano, really, really smart."}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "He he wrote in his note the other day,"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "the real fear is deflation. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "not inflation, it's deflation. And uh"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "that's Yeah, that's the deflationary"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "dollar. So then what do we do? We go to"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "Costco and like freeze some steaks. Like"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "I mean practically this is something"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "Clayton and I will talk about offline,"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": ">> stock up on your toothpaste. That kind"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "of thing because you don't want to pay"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "$20 per tube."}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:22", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean you've seen that Tik Tok"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "craze where people are like, \"Hey, I"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "went and bought that $150 piece of uh uh"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "meat. I forget the name the name of the"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "cut and they he's like I and I chop it"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "up and I get 17 steaks out of it.\""}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:36", "text": ">> I think it's a sirloin. And see, like my"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "buying my big cans of beef wasn't such a"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "bad idea."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> Exactly. Right. Beef arenino,"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": ">> right? Yeah. That's why that's why we"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "don't invite David over the house. He's"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "you he's all hopped up on beef arenino."}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "Stay away with that. Uh anyway, let us"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "know your thoughts on all of that in the"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "comments. Uh Nerd Vana says Clayton"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "looks deflated. Well, I you know, I"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "don't like I don't want"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": ">> I think that's a compliment. He's on a"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "diet. Yeah, I'm losing weight, but I I"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "don't want Americans to be squeezed. You"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "know, Americans go and they work hard"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "every day and they're trying to take"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "care of their kids and you've got to"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "deal with this crazy money printing"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:16", "text": ">> and it sets you over the edge to buy"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "shampoo. That's not the that's not the"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "sort of social contract we have with our"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "government is you continue to spend and"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "it hurts us. So,"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:23", "text": ">> anyhow."}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:24", "text": ">> All right. Well, we got more news. We're"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "going to talk about Australia's"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "anti-semitism laws moving forward. The"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "sort of hate hate speech laws. It's"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "ridiculous. One of the most draconian in"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "the world. Um, Maria Z is going to be"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "joining us here in moments. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "first, for decades, our dietary"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "guidelines have pushed low fat, low"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "salt, eat less while the food supply is"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "filled with chemicals, seed oils,"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "ultrarocessed junk. RFK Jr. just"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "released the new dietary guidelines as a"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "major shift. For the first time, the"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "federal government is openly calling out"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "the real driver of chronic disease,"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "ultrarocessed food. These guidelines"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "pull America back to real food while"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "warning against the the foods that are"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "destroying all of us because the real"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "damage isn't always visible. The problem"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "is the damage underneath the"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "inflammation, the blood sugar"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "instability, hormone disruption,"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "metabolic dysfunction. And RFK Jr. isn't"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "chasing a diet trend. He eats like"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "someone who actually understands your"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "gut and your gut controls the whole"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "system. He does. There's only one issue."}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "It's not It's not easy to eat kimchi"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "every day like you might want to do. You"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "might want to eat this kimchi every day."}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "And now you can get all the benefits of"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "kimchi in a convenient daily capsule"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "with kimchi one. So like as RFK Jr. has"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "talked about, kimchi is something he"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "eats almost like every day. Philip on"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "our team eats kimchi like every day. His"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "whole refrigerator is stocked full of"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "it. But some people don't like the taste"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "of it. RFK Jr. might. I love the taste"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "of it, but my son doesn't. And now,"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "Kimchi 1, actually, you can get all the"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "benefits of that without the taste"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "because it comes in a supplement. Kimchi"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "1 helps restore what modern food"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "destroys, delivering kimchi's unique"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "probiotic strains to strengthen your gut"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "barrier, flush toxins out, and reduce"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "body fat. In a world built on fake food,"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "give your gut real protection. 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Uh Remnant wants"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "to know what does it taste like? The"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "pill. It's just a supplement. It really"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "I mean has like a real faint taste of"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "kimchi, but you can't I mean unless"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "you're like sucking all you just swallow"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "it. Swallow it with your vitamin D and"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "you don't even notice it's that good. So"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "all right, let's talk about Australia."}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "Well, next week Australia will take up"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "consideration of their combating"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "anti-semitism, hate and extremism bill"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "in parliament. This is one of the most"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "draconian pieces of legislation to hit"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "the English-speaking world. The Green"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "Party has now come out posting their"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "concerns saying they will not support it"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "in its current form and that that it may"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "have some unintended consequences. You"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "think they but it's funny their their"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "concerns seem to go the opposite. They"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "don't think maybe it goes far enough."}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "They think, hey, we should just why are"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "we just covering like religious Jews"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "like against anti-semitism? Why"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "shouldn't we also cover LGBTQ plus? Like"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "let's put everything we can into this"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "hate speech bucket."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "Okay. Have they gone completely insane"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "in Australia? Here to help us understand"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "what is happening is Maria Z. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "welcome back to the show from Z Media."}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "Great to have you here. Keeping her eye"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "on the pulse of everything what's"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "happening there. Um, how close are we to"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "seeing these things actually passed?"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "Maria, great to see you."}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": ">> Great to see you as well. Thank you for"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "having me back. It's yet to be"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "determined at this stage. It looks like"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "the Greens do want some amendments made."}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "as you said, the opposition party, which"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "is actually so the the party in power at"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "the moment is Labor, which is kind of"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "like the Democrats here. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "opposition is the Liberal Party, which"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "is actually more supposed to be more"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "like Republicans. But Australia is very"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "similar to the US in the sense that what"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "you have most of the time is a uni"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "party. So the opposition, the Liberals"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "aka like the Republicans are saying,"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "\"We're not really uh supporting this. We"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "actually want to introduce our own"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "version of this.\" Whichever way you"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "turn, they're all saying seemingly that"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "it doesn't go far enough or they want to"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "amend it in some ways. No one's saying"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "actually no, this should be abolished"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "altogether. And it should be, Clayton,"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "because there is no such thing as hate"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "speech. Hate speech is simply speech"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "that certain people don't like. And"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "guess what? You're not God. You don't"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "get to decide who is and isn't allowed"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "to say what they want to say. And it's"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "just insane to me. But what we do have"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "is this lock step approach across"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "multiple countries. We have similar"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "pushes here in the US for these types of"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "hate speech laws. So people in America"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "should be paying attention to what's"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "happening over there because similar"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "arguments are being made here. Now if"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "you want I can take you through some of"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "the most egregious points in this bill."}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "It says that it criminalizes speech that"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "merely causes fear even if no harm"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "occurs and it results in 5 years"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "imprisonment. This is very similar to"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "previous uh laws that they've passed"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "which suggest that if you say anything"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "quote unquote reckless, you could go to"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "jail without trial. Um it defines public"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "space so broadly that it will include"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "anything that you say on the internet."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "The law states that it's irrelevant"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "whether hatred actually occurs or whe"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "whether anyone truly felt fear. You are"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "guilty."}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:57", "text": ">> Sorry. How are you going to measure"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "that? Right. It's it's 5 years in prison"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "because you caused fear. Someone had"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "fear based on something you said on the"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "internet. But then we don't really care"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "if we can even measure your fear. So how"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "even if no hatred actually occurred."}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "It's basically the government saying we"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "get to decide unilaterally what we do"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "and don't like. That's what this bill"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "is. Um they say that you're guilty of"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "displaying a prohibited symbol unless"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "you can prove a religious, academic or"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "journalistic exemption. I do want to"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "talk about the implications for"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "Christianity in this bill as well,"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "Clayton, because I think Australia is"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "moving to criminalize Christianity and"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "that seems to be clear in this bill."}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "I'll get to that. Uh it says that the uh"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "Australian federal police minister can"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "declare quote unquote prohibited groups"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "without any procedural fairness. Uh so"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "they decide who is and isn't prohibited."}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "Obviously this will have implications"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "for any political parties that rise up"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "or community action groups um you know"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "people that form groups to push back on"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "legislation for example they could"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "suddenly declare they're prohibited or"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "hostile to the government. And the"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "powers can actually extend to actions"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "that occurred outside Australia. So say"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "you're a citizen that says I it's no"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "longer safe to live in this country. I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "leaving. And on top of that, they can"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "actually do it uh based on retroactive"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "conduct. So no one knows how far back"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "they want to go. Yes, they no one knows"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "how far back they want to go, but that's"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "included."}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:25", "text": ">> Wow. You could go back in your social"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "media feed years and find something that"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "they find offensive that which may have"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "caused fe how are they going to me it"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "may have caused fear then but we don't"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "know how do we quantify this we have no"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "idea we'll just throw"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:38", "text": ">> how do you commit a crime how do you"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "commit a crime before something is law"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "that it is just pure insanity and mind"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "you it's similar to what they passed in"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "Canada is it bill C93"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "uh I think forgive me if I'm wrong about"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "that one but there are very similar"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "bills in Canada and the similarity of"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "this bill, Clayton, it's very"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "interesting. So, they say that there are"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "religious protections that they've"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "included in there, but during a uh joint"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "committee hearing, Sarah Chiji from the"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "attorney general's department expressly"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "stated that protections are there for"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "religious groups such as Jews or Sikhs,"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "but not for Catholics and definitely not"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "for Christians more broadly. So, what I"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "want to point out here is that all of"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "these hate speech bills that keep"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "passing in these western countries are"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "at their very core anti-Christian bills."}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "How do we know that? Well, we simply"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "have to go to other examples like Canada"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "and the UK to understand how they keep"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "doing this. The example out of Canada,"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "it's really egregious. Um they actually"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "used an example of a of an Islamic"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "preacher who um who basically called for"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "violence against Zionist aggressors."}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "This this was his words. And then he"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "claimed that his remarks were a prayer"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "and therefore could not under the"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "existing law be classed as hate speech."}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "The prosecutor actually agreed that this"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "was his religious uh prayer and he could"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "not be um prosecuted. So what they did"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "was they said we need hate speech laws."}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "But what they did was expressly carve"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "out in their legislation"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "uh exemptions for Islamic preachers but"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "banned certain verses of the Bible. And"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "that's what Australia is doing as well."}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "They've carved out exemptions for"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "Islamic preachers but they're saying"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "that Christians will not be protected."}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "And the UK just today I heard the report"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "that a man uh there was a protest."}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "People were uh saying, you know, God is"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "great in Arabic, which is an Islamic uh"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "statement. And a man responded, \"God"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "bless you.\" And he went he was arrested."}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "Clayton, the man who said, \"God bless"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "you,\" was arrested. These western"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "countries are coming after Christianity"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "with these bills."}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:51", "text": ">> Remind me never to sneeze in the UK for"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "crying out loud. Oh, this is insanity."}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:57", "text": ">> so criminalizing Christianity and I"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "imagine si symbols maybe even like the"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "the cross would the cross rise to the"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "level of being some sort of a problem"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "for them based on these symbols unless"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "you have some sort of academic as you"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "pointed out uh reason for for studying"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "it or is it just are they keeping it to"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "the swastika? I at the moment they've"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "criminalized symbols like the swastika"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "but I think the reason why they keep"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "adding the terms prohibited symbols into"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "all of these bills is because of a"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "future attempt to uh or or a future plan"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "to criminalize Christianity as we keep"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "seeing and I'll say it again these"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "countries bring in these hate speech"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "bills they are of course about"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "controlling the population and making"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "sure people don't say what they want"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "don't want them to say and more broadly"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "it feeds into that digital ID ecosystem"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "that we spoke spoke about last time"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "where all of your words that you express"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "or even think will be form part of your"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "digital dossier and eventually be used"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "against you in a social credit system."}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "But what end what ends up what keeps"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "ending up as the case is that Christians"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "get arrested for praying outside of an"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "abortion clinic for example or Bible"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "verses get banned. It always ends up"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "protecting all religions and Christians"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "being uh treated as criminals in every"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "single case. I was going through like"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "the Green Party's,"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "you know, um, uh, problems with this"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "bill and going through their statements"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "on this and I, unless I missed it cuz"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "they were complaining about that it"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "would, you know, it would it would just"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:33", "text": "prevent anti-semitisms, but they and"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "they tal they said we need to include,"}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "you know, Islamophobia, LGBTQ plus. I"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "didn't see any carve out in there or"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "mention in the Greens messaging about"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "Christianity. Did you or did I miss it?"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:46", "text": ">> No. And they no and they never do. From"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "what I understand, the Greens are"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "currently trying to cut a deal with the"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "Labor Party, the party in power, uh but"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "are concerned that the the bill will"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "curb pro Palestinian protest, which they"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "support people's right to protest. And"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "they're concerned that it will curb"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "people's ability to criticize Israel."}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "So, um like anyone with common sense, I"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "think you should have the ability to"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "criticize any nation. Uh, so the Greens"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "have some common sense there, but then"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "they plan to push amendments to include"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "LGBT people, disabled Australians, and"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "other minority groups as well. So, in"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "some ways, they feel it doesn't go far"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "enough. I mean, it's it's really insane,"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": ">> right? I just always come back to the"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "idea of hate speech, you know,"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "legislation is ridiculous on its face"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "anyway. If you kill somebody, that's"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "hateful. We already have laws in place"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "to deal with someone who murders"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "somebody or who robs somebody or who um"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "you know or or who beats someone up. We"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "already have laws in place to deal with"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "that. Then you have to add in this like"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "virtue signaling layer on top of it"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "which I mean how do you even enforce it?"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "I just I'm so frustrated by this and I'm"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "so sad to see it's coming to Australia."}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "But you're right. It's I mean further"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "coming to the United States. Of course"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "we've already seen these things pushing"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "through Congress, these anti-semitism"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "laws and so forth. You have the"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "Department of Justice under Pam Bondi"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "talking about this. So these carveouts"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "for for anti-semitism. Um I guess I'll"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "get you out of here on this, Maria. What"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "are the Australian people saying? I"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "mean, they're going to have their social"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "media feeds scrubbed going back years if"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "someone was critical of COVID or, you"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "know, the draconian laws or moves that"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "the the Australian government was was"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "pushing on them back then, which"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "Australia was one of the worst in the"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "world, as you know."}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:33", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:35", "text": ">> yes, I was there."}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:36", "text": ">> I mean, this could create fear, right?"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "The fear that you're talking about, this"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "could create problems for people. And so"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "there's going to be a lot of people that"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "I think are just going to be very"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "trepidacious in Australia. But what are"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:48", "text": "the Australian people saying? What do"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "you in polls and otherwise?"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:53", "text": ">> Australia has, as in the Australian"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "population has historically been very"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "passive on these issues. I'm starting to"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "see that change a little bit. I'm hoping"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "that the Australian people gain courage"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "from what just happened in the UK."}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "Karmama had to back down on compulsory"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "digital ID for the right to work."}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "They're still going to bring it in on a"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "voluntary basis, which unfortunately"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "will always lead to compulsory. But at"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "least for now, because of the public"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "push back, they they've caused a dent in"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "the government's plans. I really hope to"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "see that when it comes to Australia."}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "We've seen a number of senators say this"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "goes too far. Unfortunately, um none of"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "them are actually focusing on the"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "problem that um you know, we have this"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "these immigrants running around. Uh"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "we're bringing them to the country."}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "They're chasing people around with"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "machetes. I'm not even joking. There are"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "like home invasions and people chasing"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "people down the street with machetes and"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "the Australian government is more"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "worried about the fact that the native"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "people of the country can't can't speak"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "about these things. They want to silence"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "them and I don't think enough"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "politicians have the courage to talk"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "about what this is really about. And"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "certainly I haven't seen any of them"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "raising this issue around Christianity."}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "It is uh clear that western governments"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "at large are waging war on their"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "populations and Christianity and the"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "people need to really gain the courage"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "and speak while they still have the"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "right because the problem with all of"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "these bills is that if you don't speak"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "up now if you're scared to speak up now"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "well how much worse will it be after"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "something like this is in place and the"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "government can jail you like they do in"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "the UK you know 30 people a day for"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "saying things that they don't like. It's"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:27", "text": "it's getting to that sticking point and"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "I really hope that Australians use their"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "voices while they still can."}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:32", "text": ">> Well, I'd be pretty fearful of somebody"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "walking down the street with a knife"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "trying to attack me. That would rise to"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "the level of fear, but we don't care"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:39", "text": ">> No. No. Do you know what they did with"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "that? Actually, Clayton, they the"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "government uh invested in machete bins"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "and they put them in public places so"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "that the machete criminals could return"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "them in the bins. Cuz once you see the"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "bin, you have a change of conscience,"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "right? That's that's what they did with"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "that. Oh."}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "Maria, we are living truly in a clown"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "world. I got an idea how we stop all of"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "these, you know, these rapists with"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "knives. We'll just set up like little"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "bins so that when they're walking down,"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "they're thinking about rape."}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:07", "text": ">> They're thinking about breaking into"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "people's homes. They'll just stop and"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "they'll say, \"Yeah, change of"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "conscience. I'll just drop this in this"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "in the bin and I'll I'll go to"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "McDonald's.\""}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:15", "text": ">> Yeah. News flash, it didn't work."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:16", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:18", "text": ">> have they put up signs? Maybe have they"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "thought about maybe putting up signs"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "suggesting people not do that? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "that's right there. If I see a sign, I"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "immediately immediately stop."}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:29", "text": ">> We know you were thinking about raping"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "this afternoon, but uh you might want to"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "double. By the way, if you if you have a"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "change of mind, there's a bin down the"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "street. Here's follow the yellow arrow."}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:38", "text": ">> PS, if anyone dares to voice their"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "concerns with you raping and chasing"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "people with machetes, you can report"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "them to the hate speech line over here."}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": ">> Right. And if you But if but if your"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "comments online rise to the level of"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "causing fear in somebody, you could be"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "arrested,"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:52", "text": ">> right? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": ">> sometimes I just want to unplug from"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "whatever matrix we're stuck in right"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "now. Maria, great to see you. Thank you"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "so much for your insights on this. We'll"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "be watching next week and uh we'd love"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "to have you back as always. Thanks,"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "Maria."}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:07", "text": ">> Absolutely. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:10", "text": ">> Appreciate it. Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "Machete bins. Like, what kind of"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "that that just I mean that that just I"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "don't even know how to respond."}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:20", "text": ">> I don't know how to respond. I was just"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "like, uh, okay,"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:23", "text": ">> maybe in Chicago they should think about"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "that with all the crime, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "violent crime. Like, just set up gun"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "bins, you know? Hey, I know you were"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "thinking about just randomly shooting a"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "guy on the street. Here's a bin."}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:33", "text": ">> Think of all the money they're wasting"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "on gun buybacks when all they really"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "needed to do is just put up a bin."}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:40", "text": ">> Hey, just put your guns in here. But"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "then again, if I'm if I'm pissed off at"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "somebody, I'm walking down the street"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "and I'm in Australia and I get pissed"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "off at somebody and I'm like, \"Man, I'd"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "really like Oh, hey, a machete"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "like you there's a bin. Got a machete"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "bin.\""}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:58", "text": ">> Freaking ridiculous. A machete bin. All"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "right. Well, speaking of craziness, what"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "is happening in Canada?"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "thousands of people across the province"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "of Alberta lining up signing the"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "independence petition. I mean, across"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "Alberta, like people, you know, can play"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "it off like, oh, this is a joke. It's"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "not really happening. And then you see"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "the lines, you see the tens of thousands"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "of people that are coming to sign this"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "in the freezing cold. Have you ever been"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "to Canada? You know how cold it is right"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "now? You want to stand out in the middle"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "of the night to sign an independence"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "petition? Like, that's how passionate"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "they are about leaving Canada. We're"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "going to talk about that and so much"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "more um in just a second. But first, you"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "heard our discussion just a few minutes"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "ago with Peter Schiff about what's"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "happening right now with silver and"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "gold. Well, right now, I'm telling you,"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "this is the time now. Silver hitting"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "over almost $100 an ounce. $100 an"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "ounce. Gold almost at $4,700 an ounce."}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "US dollar printing continues. And right"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "now, our friends at Lar Capital to start"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "off the year are offering right now not"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:04", "text": "$15,000"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "but $20,000 in free bonus medals with a"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "qualified purchase. And the best thing"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "is to do I just say get on the phone and"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "have a conversation with them. Ask them"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "all the tough questions. Like write down"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "a list of the toughest questions you"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "have about, hey, I've got a few thousand"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "in US dollars right now. I really want"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "to buy precious metals. What are your"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "prices? Can you tell me how you guys"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "operate? Are you an American company?"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "They are. Just come with your list of"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "questions and get on the phone with"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "them. Again, they're an American company"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "and they will walk you through the"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "entire process. I personally use them. I"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "have them in my IRA,"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "sent right to my house, stored in my"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "safe,"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "and also stored offsite. So, you can"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "choose either way. We do both, but you"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "know, um it's totally up to you. If you"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "want to have like you have a larger"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "purchase, you can have it stored offsite"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "in a 24-hour guarded facility. It's"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "totally up to you. Or, you know, a lot"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:58", "text": "of our viewers are like, \"I don't want"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "it guarded by anyone but me. I want it"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "in my gun safe.\" You can do you. However"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "you want to do it. They'll ship silver"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "coins, gold coins right to your house."}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "That's how it works. Um, I told you so."}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "I mean, I I I really did. Gold and"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "silver. We're going to reap the benefits"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "of all of the successive money printing."}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "And here we are. I think when I started"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "telling you about gold, gold was around"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "$1,700 an ounce. So hopefully, you know,"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "a few years ago, you guys started at"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "least figuring out how to start"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "investing in precious metals. Um, so"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "right now we're seeing banks and"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "investors move out of the dollar and"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "move into gold and silver at a record"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "pace. They know what's coming. They"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "absolutely know what's coming. 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You can talk"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "about it with your spouse, your loved"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "ones if it's right for you and your"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "family. Um or just go to the website"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "leerred redacted.com and again receive"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "up to $20,000 in free bonus medals with"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "a qualified purchase. So our thanks to"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "Lear Capital for supporting our show for"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "so many years here at Redacted."}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "Well, is Alberta, Canada about to become"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "its own nation? Wouldn't that be"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "incredible? We're rewriting boundaries"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "in real time, folks, around the world"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "right now. Um, would they drop Canada"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "all together become a free and"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "independent state, province, country?"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "It's happening. Tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "Albertans lining up in the frigid cold"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "winter to sign the independence"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "petition. Look at the thousands of"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "people. This is just one spot. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "this is just one spot in Red Deer. Um"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "there's so many spots around Alberta"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "where this is happening. Let's bring in"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "David Kraton who joins us from Ottawa,"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "Canada now. And I asked David uh"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "yesterday. I said, \"David, how real is"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "this movement? How real is it? Are we"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "just seeing some of these social media"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "images here or is this a real"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "independence movement?\" David, what did"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "you tell me?"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:08", "text": ">> This is for real. This is the most"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "potentially the most real opportunity"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "for Alberta to become an independent"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "nation, independent state in in the"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "history of Canada. I spoke to my good"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "friend Jeff Wrath last night. He's the"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "legal counsel for the Alberta Prosperity"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "Project, and this is the chief advocacy"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "organization for Alberta Independence."}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "and he said the polls right now are 45%"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "and higher for Alberta independence in"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "the province."}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "That is as high as it's ever been"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "because I can remember independence"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "movements in the past, not just in"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "Alberta, but for the entire section of"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "Western Canada, it was never anywhere"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "near 45, potentially 50%. It was always"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "a fringe movement."}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "where you were lucky maybe to score 15%"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "in public opinion in this maybe 20% at"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "at the worst times with the federal"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "government bearing down on Alberta oil"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "with a national energy program that was"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "very unpopular but never this high. And"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "you know, Clayton, I had the think with"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "your last guest on talking about Canada"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "so much and how Australia and Canada are"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "basically emulating each other with hate"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "crime legislation and hate speech"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "legislation."}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "That's one of the reasons, Clayton,"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "Albertans want to leave. It's because an"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "outofcontrol, off the rails federal"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "government that is imposing legislation"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "that is just so deplorable and so"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "unwanted by Albertans. They're saying"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "there's no alternative but to leave the"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "country."}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:55", "text": ">> What would you say is their biggest"}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "grievance in Alberta? Is there a common"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "thread among maybe farmers, uh, oil"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "producers, uh, or just average Albertans"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "who don't want these draconian speech"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "laws and the carne government? Is there"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "like one major thread running through"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "all of it?"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:14", "text": ">> There sure is. And it's probably"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "something called equalization payments,"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "which you don't have in the United"}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:22", "text": "States. But in Canada, equalization"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "payments mean that the richer province"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "essentially pay the bills for the"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "so-called poor provinces. Poorer"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "provinces are called have not provinces."}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "Richer provinces are called have"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "provinces. Canada has very few have"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "provinces. The most have province in the"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "country of course is Alberta with its"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "natural resources, its oil industry. So"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "Alberta is spending billions of dollars"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "of its treasury to support people in"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "Quebec in Ontario. You think Ontario is"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "not a half province, the industrial"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "sector of the country? No. Doesn't quite"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "fit the bill. So Alberta's paying the"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "money so Ontario can use Albertans money"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "to pay for social programs and however"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:13", "text": "they want to. And it's it gets even"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "uglier in Quebec where they're they're"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "spending even more of Alberta's money on"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "their programs, on their policies. So"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "people resent that tremendously in"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "Alberta. And that is the common"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "denominator whether you're talking about"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "farmers, oil people, businessmen,"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "business people, people who just want to"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:41", "text": "make their money and keep it. And of"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "course, it's the high taxes coming from"}, {"start": "01:24:41", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "the federal government and it's the"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "regulations on the oil industry. It's"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "everything that is making Alberta"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": ">> less than it potentially could be. One"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "of the top trending hashtags in this on"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "on X is Alberta separation and"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "you know this idea that there's this"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "myth about um Alberta will be landlocked"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "and so this this has been making the"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "rounds. I want to put this up here on"}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "the screen if you could Philip. Um 88%"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "of trade is with the United States. So"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "this idea that this would be landlocked"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "you know um an independent Alberta will"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "be landlocked. 88% of its trade is with"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "the United States. So, what does this"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "exactly mean for maybe a US partnership"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "here if this goes through? Have you"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "heard any overtures yet from the Trump"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "administration?"}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:34", "text": ">> Oh, absolutely. And the Alberta"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "Prosperity Project has sent"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "representatives down to Washington. They"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "have met with top level members of the"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "Trump administration. Two things came"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "out of those meetings. The first of"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "which was the Trump administration would"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "look favorably on an independent Alberta"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "and would welcome any overtures to"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "become the 51st state if that was the"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "wish of Albertans in an independent"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "Alberta. So, the response from"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "Washington has been incredibly"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "positive towards Alberta becoming first"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "independent and then potentially, if"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "that's what the people in the province"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "would wish, the 51st state. And these"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "these meetings have been going on now"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "for the last nine months. They have been"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "entirely positive. And I and I say this"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "because people are wondering the big"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "issue now with Premier Danielle Smith of"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "Alberta. She is trying to get a pipeline"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "built with the cooperation of Prime"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "Minister Mark Carney who has spent his"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "entire career"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "with green energy being paramount not"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "supporting pipelines in Canada."}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "Pipelines are okay if they're in Brazil"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "or if they're in the third world"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "someplace, but pipelines in Canada. No,"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "that would not work with his net zero"}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "policies. So Mark Carney sort of pulled"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "a fast one, signed a memorandum of"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "understanding with Daniel Smith, said,"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "\"Oh, we'll we'll we'll agree to a"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "pipeline."}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "However, if we agree to the pipeline,"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "you have to agree to increase the"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "industrial carbon tax on Albertan oil by"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "600%."}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "Six times. So that's going to put"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "Alberta energy very much out of the"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "reach of the United States. If, and this"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "is a point I have been stressing for the"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "past couple of weeks, if that cheap"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "Venezuelan oil begins to flow north,"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "how do you think the United States is"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "going to respond to that? Because this"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "is the same type of oil, Clayton. It's"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "heavy crude. It's high in sulfur. It's"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "the kind of oil that is used primarily"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "to make diesel fuel which is the fuel of"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "industrial power. So it's indispensable"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "to American. The US oil, the petroleum,"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "the crude supplies are not that kind of"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "oil that you can make petroleum out of."}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "So the US needs this kind of oil. Where"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "is it going to get it? Well, if the"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "infrastructure is rebuilt in Venezuela,"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "and I predict Donald Trump will do that"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "with or without the private sector"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "cooperating, it's going to be a much"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "more favorable response. So, this is why"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "Alberta needs a pipeline through British"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "Columbia to the West Coast so we can"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "begin to ship oil other places rather"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "than just the United States. A pipeline,"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "it's not just a pipeline anymore. It's a"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:44", "text": "lifeline for this province. And Premier"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "Smith has already said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:49", "text": "if Carney is not serious about this"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "pipeline and he's recently said, well, I"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "think we're going to have to have the"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "concurrence, the agreement of First"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "Nations people in British Columbia,"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "which is absolutely nonsensical."}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "Courts have already said First Nations,"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "the indigenous people should be"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "consulted, but any pipeline going"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "through BC does not require their"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "approval. They have no veto. Carney's"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "now talking like they do have that veto."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "Why? Because Carney really doesn't want"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "a pipeline going to the West Coast. He"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "wants to squash Alberta's energy"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "resources. that Alberta will go through"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "the state of Washington if it has to."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:35", "text": "Premier Smith has already said that"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "that's the plan and that is why Alberta"}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "doesn't trust the federal government to"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "build that pipeline or to support that"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "pipeline with a private sector contract."}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "They know the federal government cannot"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "be trusted. It still wants to put a vice"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "in put a vice inside Alberta's"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "aspirations and to stop them to styy"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "them to squash them. So you said"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "something well many things very"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "important there and I think that and and"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "you you already see the Trump"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "administration who wants to drill baby"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "drill they've already opened up Alaska."}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:12", "text": "So if you want a partner who can"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "facilitate drilling and pipeline"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "building, Trump's your guy. It's already"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "an executive order for crying out loud."}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "This is a national security issue now"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "for the United States as Trump has said."}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "but the other piece of this is would"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "they want to become the 51st state as"}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "you mentioned and so there's huge"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "support to become free and independent"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "Alberta. How nearly 45%. How much"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "support is there to become the 51st"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "state of America?"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:46", "text": ">> That's that's a good question. I've seen"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "numbers as high as 25%."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:52", "text": ">> And given the current scenario, given"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "the current reality, would that go up if"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "Alberta became an independent nation?"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "Potentially. But I tell you, the Alberta"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "Prosperity Project has put the financing"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "out there. They have put exactly how"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "things would be as an independent"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "state. And Alberta could be as"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "prosperous as Kuwait if the federal"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "government was off their backs. If they"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "were allowed to develop their natural"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "resources as they could and they should,"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "they would be one of the most prosperous"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "countries in the world. Now, that would"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "be, I would suggest, an impediment to"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "Albertans wanting to become the 51st"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "state. And I'm not even convinced that"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "would be a popular idea."}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": ">> To a lot of legislators in Washington,"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "mainly Democratic ones, because Alberta"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "would be automatically"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "a Republican, a red state. That's the"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "kind of politics it is. and it would be"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "it would automatically have two senators"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "that would be Republican upsetting of"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "course this whole balance of power in"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "Washington. So the idea of Alberta"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:07", "text": "becoming a 51st state is fraught with"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "difficulties not so much from Albertans"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "but from I think Americans in in"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "American politicians specifically. There"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "was all kinds of, as you know,"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "controversy about bringing Alaska and"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "Hawaii into the Union as the 49th and"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "50th estates. Lots of politics behind"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "that decision. Some people said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "we don't want those people from Alaska."}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "They're not as civilized as we are.\" And"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "some people said the same thing about"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "Hawaiians and, \"Hey, they're not really"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "up to the same category.\" So, there's"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "always controversy when you bring in a"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "new state. And I think bringing in"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "Alberta would generate a lot of"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "controversy amongst Americans,"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "specifically those in Washington."}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": ">> Well, it might be the 52nd state if"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "Greenland uh if Greenland beats him to"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "the punch. Who knows? Or if uh Puerto"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "Rico finally decides to pull the trigger"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "and actually become the 51st state of"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:03", "text": "the United States. Well, this is"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "fascinating, David. Thank you so much"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "for this. I guess uh we'll wrap it up"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "here with a few seconds here. where when"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "um what what is next for this"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "independence petition?"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:18", "text": ">> Well, the as soon as they secure the"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "adequate numbers in terms of the voter"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "voter response and they're going to be"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "there very quickly given the the people"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "who are standing out, you joked about"}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "the Canadian winters. Well, I'm in"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "Ottawa here. It's not only bloody cold,"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "we've got a blizzard going on, but"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "people are standing out in very, very"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "cold temperatures in lineups"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:43", "text": "demonstrating their desire to have this"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "question on a referendum this year. So,"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "by fall, there will be unless something"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "incredible happens to stop it. And the"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "premier of the province is behind it."}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "Elections Alberta is behind this"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "process. So, it's very unlikely"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "anything's going to stop it. There will"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "be a referendum question on a ballot by"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "the fall of 2026 this year. That"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "question has not been formalized yet,"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "but it's going to be from the people"}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "I've talked to, my sources, Jeff Wrath"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "included, it's going to be a very simple"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "question. Should Alberta be independent"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "and leave Canada?"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:22", "text": ">> It's going to be very simple. Something"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:26", "text": ">> Wow. I I would love to see it. I would"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "love to see a shakeup like that. And"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "you're right. I think um you know"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "Norway, look at Norway once Norway"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "discovered oil became, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "most prosperous country in the world by"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "arguably, right? Um and not being"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "hamstrung by other other provinces,"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "other countries telling it what to do"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "and Alberta would have that same"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "opportunity, although landlocked. They"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "don't have the ports of course, but they"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "would have that prosperity to themselves"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "instead of having to ship it off to"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "Toronto"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "and to other liberal provinces."}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "to fuel this insanity that's happening"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "in Canada right now. Cut them off. Cut"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "them off. Um,"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:07", "text": ">> well, I have to say I have to say again,"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "Clayton, if you ask about what riles"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "Albertans the most, it's definitely"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "their forced subsidization"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "of Ontario and Quebec. And in the"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "process, what do they get back from"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "Ottawa but a kick in the teeth all the"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "time. No, you can't do this. No, you"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "can't dig for your resources. Leave your"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "oil in the ground. Leave Leave your"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "fossil fuels where they are. And we're"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "going to head for a net zero policy. And"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "no matter if we all starve and live in"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "the cold, that's the political response."}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "Albertans are sick of that because it"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "doesn't have to be their reality"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:46", "text": ">> Well said, David Kraden, who writes at"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "the Postmillennial, great independent"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "journalist um from Ottawa, Canada."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "Always great to see you, David. Thank"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "you for all of your reporting and great"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "work on this."}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:56", "text": ">> Thank you so much, Clayton. Always a"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "pleasure to be with you."}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:36:02", "text": ">> Appreciate it. Thanks, David. All right."}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "I What do you think about that? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "can you imagine? You imagine I just I I"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "love the idea of Well, you grow you, you"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "know, you grow up thinking about Canada,"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "this monolithic country, and you think"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "Alberta is going to break free, become"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "its own country, and then be surrounded"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "by Canada on either side."}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "It's very fascinating. But then would"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "British Columbia fall too?"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "Would it join? Would you have this like"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "western western block of Alberta and"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "British Columbia"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "or as yesterday we talked with Derek"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "Bros, it becomes the Technate and it"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "becomes some part of the United States"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "or some sort of some sort of a North"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "American technate power all the way up"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "to Alaska, Greenland, all the way down"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "into Latin America."}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "Strange times we're living in right now"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "for sure."}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:56", "text": ">> It's crazy, eh? Oh, and Saskatchewan,"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "too. Oh, yeah. So, uh, British Columbia."}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "Yeah. Let me look at my map. Trying to"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "think. Is Saskatchewan We're looking at"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "the map. To the left or the right."}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:04", "text": ">> Get the provinces up."}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> I believe it's to the left."}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:06", "text": ">> Oh, to the right."}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:08", "text": ">> But I am not a"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:09", "text": ">> Yeah, British Columbia is to the left to"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "the coast"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:13", "text": ">> and then to the right. Saskatchewan."}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:17", "text": ">> So, yeah. Would you have like would you"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "have BC and Saskatchewan joining? So"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "you'd have that whole section"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "because Saskatchewan"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": ">> I mean I doubt it because BC BC is"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "basically just the Pacific Northwest"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "Canada edition,"}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": ">> So they would probably they'd probably"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "join Washington"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:32", "text": ">> probably."}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:33", "text": ">> You can get some really good weed in"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "Hemp BC."}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:36", "text": ">> Where? In Hemp BC."}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:39", "text": ">> Hemp BC."}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:42", "text": ">> Yeah. You shop there regularly?"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:44", "text": ">> I I did when I lived in Seattle"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:47", "text": ">> back in the day."}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "Anyway, all right. Hey, we got a"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:53", "text": "newsletter. We should tell you about our"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "newsletter. Comes out uh every morning."}, {"start": "01:37:53", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "Well, Monday through Actually, we're at"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "we're we're getting in in the habit now"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "of trying to add a Friday edition right"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "now. 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I believe that."}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "And and British Columbia is though I"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "mean completely overrun by like East"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "Indians. Um"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "like I mean totally unrecognizable from"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "the you know from British Columbia a few"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "decades ago. Like it's all East Indians"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "now run everything in British Columbia."}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "So put that up for a vote. I wonder how"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "many of them would even care or even"}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "notice, you know."}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "But uh like indigenous Canadians who've"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "been there for, you know, decades and"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "decades and decades, how would they feel"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "about leaving Canada?"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "I don't know."}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "I don't know. I don't know if like Well,"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "certainly Alberta wouldn't want like"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "Vancouver and all their LGBTQ plus"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "I'm sure they would stay away from all"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "that stuff, but uh"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "let's see."}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "Well, all right. We kind of went really"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "long today, but um"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "let's see. We got a few super chats, a"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "few new members. Mark Montiminy, playing"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "my songs 1970 became a new member. Msad,"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "uh thank you for your super chat. AF"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "Medicad is complaining about no sound."}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "All I had to do was reload, refresh the"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "screen. Five bucks. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "Yeah. And by the way, if you subscribe"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "to the show, your name will pop up here"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "on the big screen. So, if you're want to"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "join the rebellion and you're not"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:42", "text": "already a subscriber of the channel,"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "please do. Please subscribe. And uh"}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:46", "text": "please do. We appreciate that. Clayton,"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "uh you think about talking about the"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "Freemasons one day?"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "Um, we well, we did a whole series"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "actually on some of the demonic"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "Freemasonry in Washington DC. Check out"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "our series. We did I think it's like a"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:02", "text": "three-part series about Satanism"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "and Freemasonry. U, what is the name of"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "that playlist we have on our channel,"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "Philip, off the top of your head? Do you"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "know by any chance?"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:11", "text": ">> Uh, oh, not right off the top of my"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "head. But you can find the playlist, but"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "it's they're they're kind of linked"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "together. Um, that was with uh it was"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "the Washington DC uh with uh Michael"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "Salah was a three-part."}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "look on our playlists and I don't see"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "it. I thought we had a playlist for it."}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "Yeah, there's not for that specific"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "series, but it's in one of the it's in"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "the I want to say like I can't remember"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "the name of that playlist."}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:47", "text": ">> Redacted conversations."}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:49", "text": ">> No, it's not in conversations. That's"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "the long form. Uh, give me a second."}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "I'll find it."}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:54", "text": ">> I only see Oh, I got to go page to page."}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "I didn't realize we had more pages. I"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "was see like I was like, why am I only"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "seeing one one page of playlist? That"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "doesn't make sense. Um, yeah, but we we"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "we try to put things together in nice"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "playlists for you here on the channel on"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "YouTube. Anyway, uh, Rumble doesn't let"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "us do that yet, I don't believe. Right,"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "David?"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:12", "text": ">> It's a UFO and paranormal news."}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:13", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:15", "text": ">> playlist."}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:17", "text": ">> So, yeah, check it out. We've got a"}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "playlist here, UFO and paranormal news"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "on the channel. And specifically, we"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "talked about Freemasons and um, the"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "order beyond, you know, it's it was a"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "pretty deep dive discussion about that."}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "So, check that out. see if um see if"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "that makes you happy. But I would like"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "to do more of a deep dive on that at"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "some point."}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:37", "text": ">> We should do like a a series like where"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "we start off cuz we're working on the"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "redacted files of the Knights of the"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "Templar and then just go right into"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "Three Masons and just follow it through"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "history."}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:49", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "I love that."}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "All right. Well, thank you guys for"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "subscribing to the channel. Really"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "appreciate it on this Thursday evening."}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "I hope you guys have a wonderful"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "evening. Um, we'll be back on We got"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "content coming out. We've got some great"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "conversations coming out this week for"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "you as well. So, we're really trying to"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "do do by the way, I'll ask you guys, do"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "you guys enjoy our longer form"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "conversations? Um, it seems like you do"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "because the feedback on them is great. I"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "just, you know, we want to do I want to"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "do a lot more this year with those. um"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "you know even traveling to do uh some of"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "those bigger conversations having more"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "people here in the studio uh really"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "interesting people that I want to talk"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "to. So let me know if you enjoy those um"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "where we can you know spend an hour hour"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:41", "text": "and a half going deep into in and uh on"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "a subject. So let me know if you enjoy"}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "those. 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Thanks,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Woodro Wilson. So, Rockefeller becomes a"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "billionaire in that very same year. And"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "just so you understand, a billion"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "dollars back then would be more like"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "$400 billion today, which would"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "essentially make him the richest man in"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "the world at the time. 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Rockefeller's plan was a"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "brilliant one from a business"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "standpoint, right? create a pill for"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "every illness and then keep people sick"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "coming back for more. It's like the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "processed food industry and it works"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "perfectly with statins and it just oh"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the cycle just continues. I mean just"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "listen to this timeline that we've"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "broken down for you. So from the 1800s,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "from the late 1800s up until 1913,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Rockefeller founded the Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Institute for Medical Research in 1901"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and then Rockefeller Foundation in 1913."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "And he used the guise of strategic"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "philanthropy to shape western medicine."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Promoted laboratorybased drug centered"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "medicine. Marginalized competing"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "approaches like any kind of herbalism."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Any naturopathy, homeopathy, holistic"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "treatments, all of it pushed to the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "side, was seen as like woo woo stuff."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "His team vilified natural remedies like"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "antimicrobial copper, by the way, which"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "was used since in ancient Egypt to kill"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "germs. They labeled them outdated. They"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "push them aside. Doctors were trained in"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "pharmaceuticals, not permanent"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "solutions. Basically, just keep the"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "illnesses going and we'll treat we'll"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "treat them. We won't cure them, of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "course. By the way, just side note, I"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "actually I actually asked for a copper"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "water bottle for Christmas because of"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "its healing benefits. And copper"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "actually never stopped working. It still"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "kills 99.97%"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "of bacteria and viruses. It was simply"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "forgotten. And the pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "pharmaceutical industry had no incentive"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "to remind anyone about it. Hey, just use"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "some natural remedies, kill those"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "viruses. And the Rockefeller machine"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "helped memoryhole all of it. And then it"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "gets much worse. From the 1920s to the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "1940s, we then saw this massive rise of"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "the pharmaceutical industry. Oil and"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "chemical companies moved into synthetic"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "drugs and patented medicines. With the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "guidance of the Rockefellers, natural"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "remedies were not allowed to be"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "patented. But synthetic drugs could be"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "patented. Of course, this caused a major"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "incentive shift. Of course, if you cure"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "somebody, that's a one-time customer."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "They never come back. They're cured."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Well, if you have chronic treatment,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "then you have that recurring revenue"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "that keep them keep them on statins for"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "life instead of making them healthy."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "By the way, this is also why we haven't"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "publicly seen the medbeds rolled out"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "yet. The US military has these medbeds."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "We've had whistleblowers on our show"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "who've literally used them"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "in action, seeing them cure all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "diseases and ailments. Even President"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Trump tweeted about it and he pulled"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "that tweet back. All part of this"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "disclosure movement that's unrolling."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "They have them at Fort Eglund in"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Florida, but we're not allowed to use"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "them because then big pharma would"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "collapse. We'll probably see these med"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "beds rolled out in pieces. Different"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "companies will make a lot of money off"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "But sorry for that aside. It just it"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "just pisses me off. To no ends, of"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "course, especially when you speak to"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "these whistleblowers who've seen them"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "and used them. Then from 1938 to the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "1960s, regulation becomes regulatory"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "capture. The FDA becomes a gatekeeper"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "dependent on the industry. It regulates"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "after drug safety scandals. You"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "literally have people who work on the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "FDA who are former drug company shills."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "And during this era, pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "companies become like the main funders"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "of clinical trials. The FDA becomes"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "increasingly staffed by former pharma"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "executives and future pharma"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "consultants, rubber stamping all of"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "these drugs. The FDA did play the police"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "for a little bit of time for the public"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "for a short period of time. And one of"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "the last people who actually stood on"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "principles to protect the public was Dr."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Francis Kelsey. much."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> In the early 1960s, the pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "company behind the drug Theidomide,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "tried to convince Dr. Francis Kelsey, a"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "scientist from the Food and Drugs"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Administration, to approve their drug."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> A stubborn stickler of a medical officer"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "in the Food and Drug Administration, Dr."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Francis Kelsey. She refused to approve"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "sale of the drug in the United States."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Theidomide was eventually blamed for"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "causing birth defects in tens of"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "thousands of children around the world"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "with many more dying at birth. Thanks to"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the diligence of Dr. Kelsey and the FDA,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "children in the US were spared. The FDA"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "has a tough job. It needs to ensure that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "drugs are safe. The decision it makes"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "are lifealtering. In most cases, for the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "best,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "but not always. FDA failures have been"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "blamed for contributing to the opioid"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "epidemic."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> She's overdosed."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> And giving false hope to our Zyus"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "patients by approving a costly and"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "unproven drug."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> This is in fact a tremendous controversy"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "in the scientific and medical world."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> Unlike the time when Dr. Kelsey worked"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "at the FDA, the federal agency is now"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "much cozier with the industry it is"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "supposed to regulate."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> So if it wasn't for Dr. for Francis"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Kelsey, we would have been devastated by"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the birth defects that affected the rest"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "of the world. Unfortunately, she was the"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "last of her kind at the FDA. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "you see these like FDA guys, women, men,"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "who then like suddenly then like CNBC"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "contributors,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "like they're on the board of Fizer."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "They're also former FDA."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Now they're spokespeople on CNBC."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "So why is it that Kelsey's predecessors"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "failed to fight for the people? It's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "something called regulatory capture."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "That's why which is when the government"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "agency meant to serve the public starts"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "prioritizing commercial or political"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "interests over the indust over the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "industry it regulates effectively"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "becoming controlled by that industry"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "leading to decisions that benefit the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "few over the many. And then in the 1970s"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "hit and the corporate medicine goes"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "global. A new level of funding for"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "drug-based research began. Pharma"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "companies begin lobbying aggressively,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "tightening their grip on government"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "agencies and officials. Lobbying goes"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "into overdrive."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Advertising budgets explode. Medicine"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "becomes a growth industry, not just a"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "health service. Then you have the 1980s."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Patents take off. The B dole act of 1980"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "allowed private companies to patent"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "publicly funded research with a bias"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "towards profitable treatments."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "universities started partnering with big"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "pharma basically helping to indoctrinate"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "medical professionals from the infancy"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "of their medical education. So your"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "medical student, you already start"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "learning"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "that you need to start pushing these"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "types of pharmaceuticals. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "all of this is being done on the backs"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "of taxpayers who are paying twice now."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "They're paying for the the funding, the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "research at these universities and also"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "then they're paying to buy the drugs"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "And then the mother of all things"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "happened in the 1990s. Direct to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "consumer advertising. US legalizing all"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "of those pharmaceutical ads on"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "television. Only two countries still"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "allow this. The United States and New"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Zealand. Patients started asking doctors"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "for specific drugs. Hey, I saw an ad on"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "TV for like restless leg syndrome drugs."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "I think I have that. Can you prescribe"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "it for me? So doctors are now pressured"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "by patients. pharmaceutical sales reps"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "show up on a regular basis. I talked to"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "a doctor just a few weeks ago who said"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "this is exactly what happens. You"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "patients that come into his office,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "they've seen a television ad, they think"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "they're sort of self diagnosing what"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "they need. They really push and push and"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "push to get these drugs"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "um pushed on them. So, this is how it"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "all unfolds. Watch this. It went from"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "golfing to rent in a box for a big"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "concert to Phillies games, Eagles games,"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "strip clubs, lap dances. You name it,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "they received it as gifts and bribes. My"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "name is Lisa Prada. I was pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "sales rep for 32 years."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Ethar was approved for four vials for 20"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "days. Each vial is 5 days, but Questcore"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "wanted it for 5 days, which is one vial"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "in order to get approval for Medicare,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Medicaid, and the other insurance"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "companies. I knew in my heart that was"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "off label. And I knew that the patients"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "were never going to get better and they"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "were going to progress downward in their"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "disease and get worse. I want to bring"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Quest Core to their knees for what"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "they've done to these MS patients every"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "You know, in my dreams,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "it's tough."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "It was hard,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "but I had to be strong"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "and I did. And I think I got justice"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "for these patients."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "The CEOs who own the company rolled it,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "made a ton of money, and they're still"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "working in a big capacity at other"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "companies. The original people that I"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "worked with in 2010, about a half are"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "still there with the company. The other"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "half have moved on to other companies in"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "different positions. They're still in"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "some capacity working in the pharma"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "industry. They had no qualms doing"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "bribes and kickbacks. All us Americans"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "are a means to an end for these"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "corporations. We are getting sick at the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "expense of a CEO somewhere in Italy"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "laughing at all of us cuz we're suckers."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "That infuriates me. And every person in"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the United States should demand change."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> I have Kim Brightite, founder of"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Brightcore Nutrition, here to talk about"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "how this is affecting Americans health"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "today. Kim, good to see you. When you"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "watch that, when you watch watch that"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "video, I mean, it's absolutely"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "heartbreaking. Bribes like I mean, lap"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "dances, the the big pharma industries"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "taking these people to Eagles games and"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "I mean, it's unbelievable the level of"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "corruption."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> Yeah, good to be back, Clayton. I I"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "totally agree with everything she just"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "said. I mean, except I don't agree with"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "everybody's a sucker. I think that"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "people have big hearts and I think that"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "they have depended on their government"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "officials and they they've trusted"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "people too much maybe. I don't like the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "word sucker though. But I know what"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "she's saying is true because back in"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "1974, I had an acquaintance of mine who"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "was a pharmaceutical rep. And he was"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "constantly bragging about all the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "expensive trips and the expensive"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "dinners and all this stuff that the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "pharmaceutical companies gave him and"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "had him take the doctors that use their"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "pharmaceuticals and use them in the ways"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "that the pharmaceutical companies wanted"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "them used. So they got rewarded and they"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "they were bribes and and and she's spot"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "on. And I mean this started as you as"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "you've been talking about with"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Rockefeller and it's totally spiraled"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "out of control to the point where we"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "injected and continue to inject the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "entire planet's population with a"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "vaccine that we know does more harm than"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> Yeah. And so the Rockefeller Foundation,"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "I mean to your point, because I was"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "going to ask you, I mean, this has not"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "ended and it's actually worse now. I"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "mean, we're talking like a hundred years"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "ago, but here with the COVID vaccine,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "they put $55 million into getting these"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "COVID shots"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "into people around the world. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "this is so this is this is not like"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "something that we're talking about from"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "1913. This is 2026. They they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "get this drug and and that 55 million"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Clayton is only a small part of the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "billions that they uh you know by design"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "it goes into the medical industry in"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "some form or fashion or universities or"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "whatever. But they want to get this drug"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "in every single person's body and based"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "on everything that we know about how"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "pharmaceutical companies operate. You"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "don't think that they gave away this $55"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "million out of their own pockets for the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "greater good of humanity? Hell no. No. I"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "mean, come on. I don't think Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "was, you know, really the philanthropist"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "that everybody thinks he was. He was"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "goaloriented to make huge profits and he"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "could see how he could take his oil and"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "and just put it in so many different"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "areas. He didn't care how it affected"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "people. He wanted to just make money."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "And I want to point out something very"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "curious here about the Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Foundation logo. If you have a look at"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "that, I mean, when I look at that logo,"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "Clayton, I, you know, there's like"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "pieces coming off of the globe and it's"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "almost like, you know, uh, individual"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "people in countries. It's I see a symbol"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "for depopulation and, uh, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "FDA on another, you know, thing here."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Uh, they've they've acknowledged 10"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "child deaths from the COVID vaccine."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": ">> Really? Really? I mean, we we know that"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "number is not even close, right,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "Clayton? This is like, you got to be"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "kidding me."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> So, we have a we have a clip that you"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "you brought as well, and I want to show"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "this. So, they're only acknowledging 10"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "child deaths from these vaccines, as you"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "pointed out. Um, and we've talked to"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "whistleblowers and individuals on this"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "show who've just, you know, scoffed and"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "laughed at that number. But watch this."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": ">> I've presented at the FDA advisory"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "meetings. I've advised companies for"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "decades on this. So, I know the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "regulatory science very well. When a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "product definitely results in death,"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "and there are thousands of peer-reviewed"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "papers on this, Governor, the COVID"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "vaccines in some people sadly result in"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "death. Some on the very first day they"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "take the shot. I mean, do do you what"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "what do you think of the what is it 37"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "38,607 right now listed on Vyers? What"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "do you think the real number is? And do"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "you have any science to back up your"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "your opinion?"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> The best data are autopsies. So, in the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "largest autopsy series published to"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "date, I know because I'm the senior"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "author"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "of all the death we deaths we examined"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "and we we re-reviewed them. We had an"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "adjudication committee. We had ways of"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "arbitration deciding on did the vaccine"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "cause death. The answer is of these"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "cases that came in for autopsy after"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "vaccination. 73.9%"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "of individuals"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "it was determined that the vaccine was"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "the cause of death."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": ">> So Kim that's our friend of the show Dr."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Peter McCulla who we've had on many many"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "times. I mean they vilified him for"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> Oh they totally did. And I mean 73.9%"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "that is a lot. I mean the the you know"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "like many doctors you know he brought so"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "much truth to light uh during co uh and"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "the co vaccinations and he's been"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "silenced. The American board of internal"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "medicine I know you know this but I'll"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "just reiterate it for the people"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "listening and watching the ABIM they"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "revoked his board certification. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "how evil. And you know, Clayton, it's"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "not just about the vaccines that that we"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "all have to worry about. It's all"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "pharmaceutical drugs. These"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "pharmaceutical companies are looking to"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "their bottom line. They're looking to"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "make as huge profit as they possibly"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "can. And you know, they're doing that"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "far more than they're looking out for"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "your best interests,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": ">> right? So, take a look at this. You also"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "provided this. I want to put this"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "graphic up here. So, according to this,"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "what are we looking at here, Kim? Our"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "according to PubMed, our prescription"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "drugs are the third leading cause of"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "death after heart disease and cancer in"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "the United States and Europe."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> Oh, I thought they were supposed to save"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "our lives."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> Exactly. No. Hello. No, it's not because"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "and and you know, a lot of you might"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "find this surprising that it's the third"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "leading cause of death in the United"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "States, but it's not because of"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "overdoses or acute complications. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "about the gut microbiome and how these"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "drugs are affecting our microbial"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "diversity in our guts. Every time you"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "take that antibiotic, every time you"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "take that heartburn medicine, they those"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "kill off your microbial diversity in the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "gut, they're killing off the good guys"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "and they're allowing the bad guys to"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "replicate at at super speeds. And uh you"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "know more information's coming out daily"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "about how these drugs are killing that"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "diversity. They cause what's called"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "dispiosis. That's the imbalance and it's"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "being connected finally to chronic"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "diseases in all areas of our body. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "and again dispiosis is when our gut"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "floor is out of balance and it causes um"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "just an unbelievable amount of health"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "issues. I mean, we have so many things"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "that we're dealing with with our gut"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "being um out of whack. You know, we we"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "see people dealing now with early onset"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "dementia, Alzheimer's disease, high"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "blood pressure, high cholesterol,"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "diabetes, the list goes on and on. And"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "what most people Clayton don't realize"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "is that your risk of all these diseases"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "are directly it's directly related to"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "your gut microbiome diversity."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> We had friend of the show Dr. David"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Pearlmutter on. He wrote um a couple of"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "great books. Forget the first one. Um uh"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "belly gut was it called? Wheat belly I"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "think was the first um uh but then he"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "also wrote"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": ">> That sounds right. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": ">> I forget the name of the book. It's been"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "a few years. But then his second book"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "was all about the gut biome. And he was"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "being vilified for talking about the"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "direct connection from all of his"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "research for what was happening in the"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "gut biome leading to all of these"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "things. I mean, we're talking as you"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "mentioned, diabetes, I'm just going down"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "the list, Alzheimer's, early onset"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "dementia, blood pressure, everything."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "And he was being vilified for it. Why do"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "you think I mean, why I guess the"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "question is why do you think they these"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "doctors who call this out are being"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "vilified for this?"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> Because it's the truth. If people wake"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "up and realize how easy it would be to"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "take responsibility for their own health"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "and concentrate on what feeds the good"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "guys in our gut microbiome. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "started teaching people the importance"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "of gut microbiome health back 50 years"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "ago and people were calling me a quack"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "and crazy and where's the science? And"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "it's just, you know, you look around the"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "world and people that live to be"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "centuries old, over a century uh old,"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "hundred years old, they're noted to be"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "less susceptible to many infectious"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "diseases. I mean, I studied all these"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "people that were living the Hanzas and"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the Japanese and different people all"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "over the world that were living these"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "long lives and and so these properties"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "have been directly attributed to their"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "distinct gut microbial structures and"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "and having been studying all these"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "different people that live to be such"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "great ages, the number one thing that I"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "knew that you could do to protect"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "yourself is increase your microbiome"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "diversity by eating fermented foods and"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "the number one fermented food is kimchi."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "It is the king of fermented foods and I"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "found out that not all fermented foods"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "are created equal. You know, kimchi is"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "the king of fermented food because it"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "has over 900 different beneficial"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "strains of bacteria. Whereas people that"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "love sauerkraut eat your sauerkraut, but"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "it's only got 28 strains. Yogurt's, you"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "know, only got a few more than that. and"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "then kefir and other other foods are"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "good, but kimchi is the king. And"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "there's so many studies about kimchi"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "showing various health benefits. It's"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "been around for centuries, and you do"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "not see the same studies about other"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "fermented foods. So, that's key."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": ">> We went out to dinner at a South Korean"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "restaurant. Um, my wife loves to go to"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "this South Korean barbecue and like they"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "just load up the table with kimchi. like"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "it's like you know like like five"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "different types like when you know to"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "start out the the barbecue they like"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "bring all these little metal dishes and"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "they're all filled with kimchi and a few"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "years ago I read a book called the"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "Okinawan diet where these doctors went"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "to Okinawa and they wanted to understand"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "like why does so many people live to be"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "over a hundred years old in Okinawa"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": ">> and they looked at their diet they"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "looked at the fermented foods and the"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "fish and you know and and all of that"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "and it was a remarkable study and so um"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "but you know we've sort of we block that"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "out in the west don't We don't want to"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "know about like I mean for the like for"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "instance this study the effects of"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "fermented uh kimchi on anthro um I can't"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "even say it on on all of your blood"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "indicators. What am I even looking at"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "here Kim?"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": ">> Anthrop uh anthropomatic"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "it's a hard one too. Yeah. Well, you're"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "looking at it. It's showing that uh you"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "know I don't I can't hardly see what is"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "right there. It's okay. That's the study"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "that recently came out about kimchi"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "clayton and it's highlighting its heart"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "health benefits and it showed there that"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "the consumption of kimchi was reducing"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "blood glucose, triglycerides, blood"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "pressure, LDL cholesterol because your"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "health, believe it or not, depends on"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "balance. And that's what I always"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "taught. You've got to make balance."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "You've got to have that acid alkaline"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "and good balance in your body. And so"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "when good bacteria outnumber and"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "regulate the bad, the gut environment"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "stays stable. It supports our overall"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "well-being. But if diet and stress and"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "antibiotics or illness disrupt this"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "balance, we've got harmful bacteria,"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "pathogens growing, fungus, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "all kinds of things that lead to that"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "gut problem and wider health issues."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Now, kimchi is a powerful antimicrobial."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "So, it's got those powerful that"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "powerful antimicrobial properties. So,"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "uh you know, again, it's antibacterial,"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "antifungal, antiviral, and"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "antiparasitic. And when you have too"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "much of that bad bacteria, you are going"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "to get sick more often. You're going to"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "deal with fungus overgrowth like candida"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "and parasites. I know that sounds gross,"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "but come on, wake up. That's what's"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "going on in your gut. You see these big"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "guts? Well, that's what's inside there."}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "Um, kimchi has the power to battle all"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "these evil little microbials that are"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "living inside of us. And it's doing it"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "naturally and effectively. And and"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "Clayton, I was so excited when I found"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "this study. It's an anti-aging study."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "And it showed that when kimchi was"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "introduced to human cells in test tubes,"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "it actually slowed the aging of the"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "cells. And when you slow the aging on"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "that cellular level, it's going to slow"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "the aging of your tissues, which is the"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "combination of cells in our body. And"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "that ultimately slows the entire, you"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "know, the aging of the entire body. And"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "so that's exciting."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": ">> I have a friend who recently sold a"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "business like 90 million. He's he's got"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "multiple businesses, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "multi-millionaire. And he's like, I'm"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "very, you know, I I I study peptides."}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "He's like, I I really focus on like the"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "anti-aging process. And we were talking"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "about this. And he actually talked about"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "this study a few weeks ago during during"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "the holiday season about the anti-aging"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "and the anti-inflammation. He's like,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "\"I'm on I'm on kimchi. I'm on, you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "the peptides.\" He's like, \"I'm I'm on"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "all of it.\" And he looks fantastic. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "I know so many people are trying to find"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "like a a big pharma sort of cure for"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "aging, right? You see like, oh, if"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "anyone can unlock that, like, can Fizer"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "unlock the anti-aging pill that we can"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "all take, right? Um, and of course it's"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "going to wind up in my opinion like"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "Ozmpic or something like that. You're"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "going to see all these like skeletons"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "walking around, you know."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": ">> Exactly. I mean, there's so many I mean,"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "there's so many health benefits from"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "kimchi Clayton. And I know you know a"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "lot of them, but that's why we went"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "ahead at Brecore and created kimchi one."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "Uh, why do we do that? Because"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "Americans, their taste buds are very"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "different than Asian taste buds. So"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "sometimes they have a problem with the"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "taste, the odor. So now we have"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "convenient capsules for daily use. And"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "when you make your own homemade kimchi"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "or you buy it from the store, it's"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "loaded up with sodium. A lot of people"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "are on sodium restricted diet. So we"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "virtually have no sodium in our"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "capsules. It's 100% made in the USA, um,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "all natural, non-GMO, which is really"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "important. And then, you know, we just"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "constantly hear uh either in writing or"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "people call us and and they share their"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "successes after using Kimchi 1 for a"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "week or two. Uh you know, people that"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "had problems digesting their food, now"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "they have really great digestion. They"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "don't have bloating, gas, they're"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "regular. They uh people that had"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "problems with their immune system and"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "they used to get sick all the time."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "Well, guess what? They're not getting as"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "sick uh as much anymore. And some of"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "them aren't even getting sick anymore."}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "Uh we've got younger looking hair report"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "or younger looking skin reported thicker"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "hair, uh shinier hair, and of course"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "people that had a weight problem and"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "could not lose weight no matter what"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "they did. Um you know, there's studies"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "showing that kimchi helps lower body fat"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "by 31.8%."}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "That's enormous. So of course they had"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "success losing weight with using kimchi"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "one. And then people who suffered from"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "symptoms and couldn't pinpoint the"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "causes, especially after 2020 forward,"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "well, guess what? Those symptoms are"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "leaving them and they're feeling better"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "finally."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": ">> And you guys have a special offer for"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "our viewers today. We've been longtime"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "supporters of what you guys do. Huge"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "fans. I take it I take it every day."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "It's part of my supplement stack. I went"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "through my two week I have my two week"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "pill box and I just it was all empty"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "last night so I sat there for 20 minutes"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "putting all my my supplements in and my"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "kimchi one is sitting right there. So I"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "I take uh multiple capsules per day but"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "you guys have a a special offer for our"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "viewers today. We're going to put this"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "up here on the screen. I'm always"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "thrilled to do this. What what can"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "people get?"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": ">> Yeah, so they go to my"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "brightcore.comredacted."}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "Use the code redacted. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "get 25% off or call in for up to 50% off"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "and free shipping. 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I've"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "seen a few other companies now. They're"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "like, \"Hey, call us.\" Like, \"We want to"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "develop a relationship.\" It's like"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "that's how it used to be. I remember,"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "you know, you back in the day, you'd get"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "on the phone and actually know your"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "customers, right?"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I mean, that's that's why I"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "started the company almost 29 years ago"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "was to help people, not like the"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "pharmaceutical companies where the"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "bottom line is the most important thing."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "So, of course, I like to talk to the"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "customers. We like to make sure you"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "understand what you're doing and"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "understand your body better."}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:03", "text": ">> If people are concerned about the taste,"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "that's the thing. The other night we"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "were having steaks. I made some ribe"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "eyes for the family and uh we had a you"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "know big thing of kimchi and I always"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "try to eat that with the steaks, you"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "know. So my wife, the other my daughters"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "were eating it, but my son, he just like"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "turn he's like I he just turns his nose"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "up at it. He can't handle the kimchi"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "taste. So with the with the kimchi one"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "pills, I can vouch for it. You don't"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "have to worry about the taste. That's"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "the That's the key."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, Kim, great to see you. Thank"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "you so much for this and uh thanks for"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "providing some really fascinating"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "context. Um and by the way, just real"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "quick, because a lot of people sick"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "right now and they're taking"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "antibiotics,"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "you know, and they're deal like whether"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "it's for strep throat or other things"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "and they're trying to, you know, they're"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "trying to knock this bug out of their"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "body. Um, now they've completely removed"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "or damaged their gut biome after they've"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "taken an antibiotic."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": ">> well, you know, Clayton, look, there's a"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "time and a place for everything. I am"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "not going to ever say there's not a time"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "and a place for antibiotics, but they've"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "been so overused. And the key thing here"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "is you have to take something. Once you"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "take an antibiotic, you have got to take"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "something that's powerful like kimchi"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "one or kimchi to rebuild that gut"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "microbiome back up with the good guys"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "because the bad guys get destroyed, but"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "the good guys get destroyed too with an"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "antibiotic because antibiotic means"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "against life. So, it's against"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "everything in your gut. And so, unless"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "you do that, you're on this constant"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "downward spiral of health and you just"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "are going to just get addicted to taking"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "antibiotics because you don't know any"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "difference. So the key thing is"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "understand the the health of your gut"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "microbiome and strengthen it and then"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "you will ultimately not be needing"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "antibiotics because that's the key right"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "there. That's the key that the"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "pharmaceutical companies didn't want you"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "to know and don't want you to know"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "still. But it's that simple."}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": ">> Kimbright, always great to see you."}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "Thank you so much for this and uh happy"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "new year to you."}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:07", "text": ">> Yeah, you guys, too."}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:09", "text": ">> Have a great year. It's gonna I think"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "we're gonna I think we're going to see"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "some big changes. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": ">> I think we are. I mean, certainly on the"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "on the medical side, we're already"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "seeing it, which is just crazy. Um it's"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "it's so good finally. So, hopefully"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "processed food, you're you're uh your"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "time is up. I I hoping I'm hoping the"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "processed food industry is"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": ">> and I would love to see I know that this"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "is something RFK Jr. has talked about,"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "which is getting those pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "ads off television. Um what a massive"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "lobby that is he's up against right now."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "But man, like I said at the beginning,"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "like the US and New Zealand, the only"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "two countries with that stuff on TV."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> Yeah. The man has no fear. He's been"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "fighting all the bad guys for so long."}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "He's he he knows exactly what he's up"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "against. And thank God for, you know,"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "RFK Jr."}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:53", "text": ">> from your mouth to God's ears. Kim,"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "happy new year to you. Thanks so much."}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:56", "text": ">> All right. See you guys."}]

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Putin said any attack"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "would be a grave mistake and come with"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "devastating consequences."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> While Russia has cautioned the United"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "States over attacking Iran, it has said"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "that the threats of new military strikes"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "on Iran are categorically unacceptable."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Moscow has slammed Washington in what it"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "calls a subversive external interference"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "in Thran's internal politics."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Well, you'll recall that Putin of course"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "doesn't bluff and all Russians have now"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "been removed and left Israel. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "according to sources, of course, Putin"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "was absolutely furious about the way"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "that Israel handed the Syria situation."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Of course, felt in fact totally betrayed"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "by Netanyahu over what happened in"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Syria. Um, here we now have Russia sent"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "multiple large freight flights into"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Thrron over the past few days, including"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "another one uh today. Could that be why"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "President Trump is now saying that the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "killing is winding down? Listen, just a"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "few minutes ago."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Sorry, I don't have it."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Meanwhile, well, so President"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Trump just paraphrased what he said just"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "a few minutes ago. He said that uh he"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "said, \"Oh, we we just got on good"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "authority that uh the killing has now"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "stopped.\" Basically, all but stopped. We"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "have that on good authority. When a"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "reporter asked"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "about that,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> it's winding down. It's winding down."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> It's like the end of your coffee."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> It's amazing how you would actually know"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "that, by the way, unless the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "MSAD was actively involved in actually"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "stoking a lot of this violence. But"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "okay, nevertheless, meanwhile, the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "propagandists are using the same old"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "script ripped from the exact same"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "playbook. they've used countless times"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "to sell us a war in Iran. Pro-Zionists"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "account accounts sharing fake death"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "numbers out of Iran. So-called MAGA"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "influencers sharing a fake protest"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "videos. Um, are there real protests?"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Yes, of course there were. Um, are we"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "being told the truth about what's"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "happened? No, we're not. Uh, Mark"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Leavvin posted this. Just spoke with a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "friend who managed to reach Iraqi"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Kurdistan. This is what he told me. The"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "number of people killed is far higher"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "than the 12,000. The massacre is beyond"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "horrific."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> Oh, 12,000 deaths bother him. Who's"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "going to tell him about Gaza?"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> No, they don't care. They're able to"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "compartmentalize this stuff. Uh Laura"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Loomer, new video from Iran. She shares"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "a video um of body bags on the streets."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "An Iranian friend of mine just sent me"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "this footage from Iran. So many nearly"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "20,000 Iranians have been murdered by"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "the regime for protesting for their"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "freedom. Streets are lined with dead"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "bodies and body bags. There aren't"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "enough body bags to keep up with the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "death toll. Then she posted,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> \"Funny how all these"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> I was going to say funny how all these"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "people all of a sudden have Iranian"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "friends.\""}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Yeah, it is true. She's got lots of"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "friends in Iran. So all of the people"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "who cried about the fake genocide she"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "posts in Gaza for 2 years are awfully"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "quiet right now about the massacre of"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "15,000 innocent Iranians this week. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "a straightup cult. Of course, Loomer is"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "conveniently leaving out the part where"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "MSAD is playing a very heavy hand in"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "these protests. According to our"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "sources, MSAD has killed many people on"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "both the Iranian security forces side"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "and the civilian side. But she's just"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "conveniently ignoring that and that part"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "of the story. In fact, Israel's channel"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "14, Israel's own media reporting that"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "MSAD is literally arming people here. We"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "reported tonight on Channel 14, this is"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Israeli, by the way. We reported tonight"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "on channel 14, foreign actors are arming"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "the protesters in Iran with live"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "firearms, which is the reason for the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "hundreds of regime personnel killed."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Everyone is free to guess who was behind"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "it. That's one part of the story. The"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "other part of the story, of course, is"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "about the impending military action."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Quite a few reports surfacing today"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "saying suggesting Reuters suggesting"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "within 24 hours the United States is"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "about to bomb Iran."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Uh but remember Trump likes to bomb"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "countries over the weekend when the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "markets are closed like Friday into"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Saturday morning like last time when the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "oil markets are closed and the stock"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "market is closed. So for more on all of"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "this to try to understand really what's"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "happening there uh we want to bring in"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Ana Parmill from the gray zone. She was"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "recently in Iran. She's been covering"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "the story heavily and uh she is the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "author of a corporate coup Venezuela and"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the end of US empire doing a great job"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "obviously covering the Venezuela portion"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "of the story as well. Ana, welcome back"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "to the show. Great to see you."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Nice to see you guys. Hi Natalie and hi"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Clayton."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Hello there."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> So, you know, people in the chat room,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "it's like, well,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "you cannot disregard the popular"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "uprising, right? That that's the that's"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "the line, right? You can't disregard the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "actual on the ground uprising and how"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "people are being treated there. Why are"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "you ignoring that? We're not ignoring it"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "at all, but we're just pointing out the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "US involvement in it. Anyway, that's"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "just a side note here. But what do you"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "see happening on the ground right now?"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Like what is the truth coming out of"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Iran at this hour?"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> People who want to point out obvious"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "grievances that the Iranian population"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "may have or struggles that may bring"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "them out into the streets should start"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "by asking themselves why Iranians were"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "first demonstrating earlier this year."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Essentially what happened was at the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "turn of the at the new year which is not"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "their new year but it is for us"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "people mostly poor working-class"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "merchants in Iran went into the streets"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "in order to protest rising inflation and"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "a worsening economic situation in the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "country. We can discuss how sanctions"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "have ravaged them since the 1979 Islamic"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Revolution and how the United States"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "openly admits to using sanctions as a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "weapon in order to bring countries alike"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Iran to its knees. There's Richard"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Nephew, the former Obama era State"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Department official who actually wrote a"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "book bragging about how through his"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "negotiation and crafting the maximum"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "pressure campaign on Iran that pushed"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Iran to the negotiating table to give up"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "its nuclear program or agreed to more"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "restraints and monitoring from the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "international community. uh that he for"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "example was able to manipulate the price"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "of uh butter in Russia or uh that he was"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "able to manipulate the price of meat and"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "chicken and things in Iran that people"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "needed for their New Year's celebration"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "uh when they celebrate in May. A so US"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "officials have admitted uh that they've"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "purposfully crafted policy in order to"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "do what we see now which is bring people"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "into the streets. But it's important to"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "note that those initial anti-government"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "demonstrations that uh were again"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "focused on economic issues were actually"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "based on uh what we've been able to"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "report at the gray zone and through"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "analyzing sources and discussing with"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "our sources on the ground. Those"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "demonstrations were initially held by"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "people that were progovern or even"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "conservative more conservative than the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "liberal government currently in power."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "and the government including the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Ayatollah actually made concessions and"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "said that they had legitimate"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "grievances. The president poses also"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "said that he took responsibility for"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "making decisions that may have led to"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "these sort of protests. And so these"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "demonstrations began to fizzle out and"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "what happened was then suddenly this"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "violent element appeared in the street"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "and now for the past few days uh there's"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "been a kind of a blackout of information"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "coming out of Iran partially because the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "government has cut the internet. They"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "say this is part of an effort to track"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "MSAD agents and American CIA uh"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "connected uh individuals in Iran that"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "they are now trying to weed out through"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "monitoring communication that's coming"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "from the international community. And"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "the videos that have come out include"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "riotist demonstrations, attacks on"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "mosques. They've burned down multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "important religious buildings in the"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "country, fired upon police officers."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "There's reports of uh crowds lynching"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "police officers a in in the streets. And"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "so what what looks to have happened is"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "that the situation went from a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "legitimate peaceful protest and now what"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "we're seeing much like what happened in"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Syria in 2011 is an element with outside"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "support coming in to destabilize the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "country and also bring a response from"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the government that then prompts the"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "United States and its allies in the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "region to say look now we can intervene"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "because the government has acted against"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "its people. 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Set"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "yourself up for a strong 2026. American"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Financing can help you access that"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "equity in your home and an interest rate"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "in the low fives. Yeah, you heard that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "right. In the low fives. That's a much"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "lower rate than the average 20% or more"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "credit card rate. Right now, American"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Financing is saving their customers an"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "average of $800 a month. 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NLS number is"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "182334. You can read all about them at"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "NMLScons consumerac.org."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "APR rates in the fives start at 6.196%"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "for well-qualified borrowers. Again,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "call 86689-8434"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "today or to learn about details and"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "credit costs and terms. So what do you"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "say of this rhetoric which is heavily"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "promoted on Instagram and Tik Tok that"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "uh these are oppressed people. They are"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "protesting the hijab. They want to live"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "like the rest of us and this is"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "otherwise organic and they're risking"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "their lives because they are normally"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "oppressed and killed on a regular basis."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "You were in Iran just less than a year"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "ago. Is was that your experience? these"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "really backwater oppressed people,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "shoeless and you know, no rights for"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "women."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "On the hijab front, by the time I made"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "it to Iran in May of last year, they"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "were not enforcing covering in Tehran"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "and Isvahan. I was in two major cities"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and unless I was in an official"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "government or state building, for"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "example, when I went to the press TV"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "offices to do interviews at the state"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "media channel, I was asked to wear a"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "hijab. But otherwise, when I was in"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "cafes, when I was in the street, when I"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "was in restaurants, hotel lobbies,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "whatever, I did not have to wear a"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "hijab. And that was the case when I went"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "out that Iranian women in in general"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "have begun to take off the scarf. And"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "really, I think the government made a"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "decision that taking that issue off the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "table for the West was for them a a good"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "decision because or or a worthwhile"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "calculation because the most obvious"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "point of repression that we've heard"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "about in the West for all these years is"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "that women are not able to make choices"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "about what they wear. And they're"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "changing in that regard. But it's coming"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "from the people there, not any of this"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "outside violent uh MSAD. You have Mike"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Pompeo, the Secretary of State, former"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Secretary of State of the United States"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "tweet that he wishes luck to all the"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "MSAD agents marching alongside the"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Iranian protesters in the street. I"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "tweet. But uh the US officials currently"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "in power that are working so closely"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "with Netanyahu to carry out what's"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "really Israel's aligned pol Israel's"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "best policy for the region are are"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "openly talking about their support for"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "uh these demonstrations. You had Rick"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Rennell, an envoy of Trump, saying that"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "he smuggled gay and lesbian people out"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "of Iran, which is an odd admission from"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "a US government official. So when you"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "have that level of outside pressure, I"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "think it actually takes away from"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "whatever legitimate movements do exist"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "on the ground, the people of Iran will,"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "it's just the natural progression of"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "human history gain their own rights, but"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "they'll do it on their own terms. And we"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "can't even judge their society because"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "honestly it is different than ours that"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "we can't understand that they're they're"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "just in a different process. They're on"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "a different timeline for these things"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "than we are and we can't force it. In"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "fact, the more we get involved, I think"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "then the more it gives the state an"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "excuse to crack down or not have any"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "other room for debate. Now, something"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Anna and I have joked about is that we"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "both have what they call in the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "broadcast world global face. So, if you"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "were walking around in Iran without a"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "hijab, you could pass as Iranian. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "my assessment. So, no one's going to say"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "you were given this foreigner pass,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "right? And so, if you were comfortable"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "like that, that's a real data point that"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "really that shuts down all of these"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "feminist talking points as um"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "illegitimate."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Yeah. And if you you can go online, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "very Max always before we went to Iran,"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "he was looking up these videos and so"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "he's encouraged viewers to also check"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "out online. And you can just search"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "walking around a mall in Iran or streams"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "of people walking in the market and"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "it'll just be someone filming their"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "casual stroll through a crowd and you'll"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "see that many of the women are not"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "covered. So this is not just my personal"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "story or something that I can say based"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "on my experience. It was based on"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "talking to women there and it was based"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "on talking to or based on just gathering"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "this evidence and these videos ahead of"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "time to see what we should expect when"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "we went to Iran. And on the women's"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "issue, like women anywhere else, the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "women that I spoke to in Iran were"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "concerned about the economy. They're"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "worried about the fact that they have to"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "work constantly and then can't a and all"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "of their money goes to paying for their"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "housing and their food and child care"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "and that they can't save. Their"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "complaints sound a lot like the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "complaints that we face in the United"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "States. And the best way to address"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "those concerns of the average Iranian"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "woman, I think the best thing any"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "American could do is to say lift the"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "sanctions on the Iranian people because"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "that's pretty much all all we can do. We"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "have no business doing anything else or"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "forcing our ways on them. So, I just"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "want to go back to before we let you go"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "on you just the idea that, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "body bags on the streets. You there's"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "just so so much misinformation pouring"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "out of there right now. You're hearing,"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "you know, the likes of like the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "pro-Zionist pro-Israel crowd, the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Israel's first crowd, you know, like the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Laura Loomers, Mark Levvin types who"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "absolutely want this regime change war."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Um, they're absolutely ignoring, of"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "course, the MSAD intervention and"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "involvement in all of this, which has"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "been confirmed on the Israeli side. I"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "don't know why they're just ignoring"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "that conveniently. It's very"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "interesting. But what do we do? You have"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "specific numbers that you know about"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "exactly how many people have been"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "killed, who's doing the killing."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "I think right now it's very difficult to"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "make any claims that we know based on"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "numbers coming out of Iran because I can"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "barely be in contact with the people"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "that I know there because of the the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": ">> difficulties. Yeah. Because the blackout"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "and because of just we one of the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "contacts that we've interviewed on the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "gray zone regularly, Satara uh uh who"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "people may have seen her, she's very"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "vocal on X, her neighbor was killed in"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "one of these attacks. So everybody's"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "kind of in flux there and it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "it's hard to uh know what information or"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "in terms of numbers is correct. But I"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "will say that we saw the CBS newsly"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "controlled by Bari Weiss issue some"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "claim that 20,000 or 22,000 people had"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "been killed. I would say that that's"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "probably a gross overestimation, but"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "with the way things are looking now with"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "this increased violent action in the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "streets, people with guns, people"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "setting fire to buildings, that is very"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "dangerous. And so, I'm sure we will see"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "body bags and we will see"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "confrontations, but we will have to ask"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "how did how how did it get to this"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "point? Who are the people coming in with"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "the guns and causing the chaos? If we"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "see somebody crying over a dead"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "relative, we need to ask, well, who"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "actually killed their relative? Was it"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "the state or was it these violent"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "militias that have suddenly appeared in"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "the country? Are we looking at a repeat"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "of Syria? That, I think, is what's"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "possibly going to play out in Iran over"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "the next few months because it's easier"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "for the US and Israel to go that route"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "than to just start an aggressive bombing"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "campaign now. I think they want to act"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "in this window that they have with Trump"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "and Netanyahu in power. This is the last"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "country that they would like to topple"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "while both of them are still around. And"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "so it seems right now that they are they"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "are greasing the gears for a Syria style"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "CIA covertbacked"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "civil war scenario in Iran. And so I"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "just hope that it can be nipped in the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "bud and that we don't see something as"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "devastating play out in in Iran as we"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "saw in Syria."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": ">> Yeah, it's I mean it's unbelievable when"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "you see what's happening right now. Um"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> it's almost but it's a hard place for"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "journalists to be because we can see the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "sources of these numbers. The National"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "Endowment, come on. They're they're the"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "ones who started the war in Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Victoria Nuland is currently an"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "ambassador. We cannot put any stock in"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that. We can't put any stock into the"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "State Department run numbers or any"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Washington-based group. And so we have"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "to wait. And so for the rest of us as"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "news consumers, when you see someone who"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "is repeating these lines, you need to"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "dig your heels in and say, \"I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "wait.\" That's all we can really do right"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": ">> Right. Always look at the source. As you"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "mentioned, a lot of those higher death"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "tolls have come from organizations"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "funded by the National Endowment for"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Democracy and other US government funded"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "groups. We just did a report about that"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "at the Greyzone authored by Max"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Blumenthal, my husband and our colleague"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Wyatt Reid. And then again beyond that"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "is if we are dealing with high death"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "toll, a high death toll, we have to ask"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "were were there actual violent exchanges"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "between militias and the military or the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "police? because that is the situation"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "that appears to be uh growing now in the"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "streets is an actual uh civil strife"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "scenario. So if there are high death uh"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "eventually we are looking at high uh"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "death numbers we have to ask again where"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "did these guns where did the violence"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "come from and history seems to repeat"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "itself in that region and I think we"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "could guess where those guns would come"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "from. Well, and we're hearing directly"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "from the Israelis, the Israeli media"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "covering it and the United States media"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "is not covering it. The Israeli media is"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "telling us that MSAD is in Iran and"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "they've been arming not only I mean"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "they've been arming both sides. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "like, hey, you want a gun? You want a"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "gun? Hey, let's let's have some fun"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "here. Let's carry on. Let's create this"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "chaos right now. The CIA and MSAD"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "actively involved in this. I mean, why"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "do you think the US media is totally not"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "covering that part of the story, but the"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "Israeli media is?"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": ">> It It's an odd question, but I guess it"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "might have to do with the fact that the"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "Israelis feel that they have nothing to"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "hide and that they can be more honest"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "with their population about their goals"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "and how they operate. I mean, look at"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "how they talk about the genocide in Gaza"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "over the past few years. While the US"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "was maybe ignoring it or trying to find"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "a nice way to spin it, Israelis just"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "speak in nasty language where they they"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "tell it like it is, which is, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "as an American, I guess I appreciate it"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "because we get to hear the quiet part"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "out loud in Israeli media. And I think"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "at this point they're pretty proud of"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "the fact that they own us and that"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Netanyahu can come here and tell our"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "president how high to jump."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": ">> Yeah. One more thing I wanted to ask is"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "that the massive amounts of people who"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "were marching in the street, many of"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "them were peaceful this week in Tyrron"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "and the media spinning this as"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "anti-government propaganda or"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "anti-government protests. And then the"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Guardian admits that these were actually"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "progovern marchers. And the way the"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Guardian spun it was that the regime"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "sort of recruited people to march on its"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "behalf which is an"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "unwilling admission that those people"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "were marching for the government. So can"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "you tell us what is the temperature of"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "people who would march for the"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "government not necessarily because they"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "love everything about the government but"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "what I would surmise is that they want"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "sovereignty."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": ">> Exactly. They want sovereignty and"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "that's more important to them than any"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "of the issues the United States can"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "project on the scenario. But again, the"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "the initial economic demonstrations were"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "held by this class of people that"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "generally are progovernment. You're"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "talking about the working poor. That's"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "the base of the the the"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "hardline or more principalist Islamic uh"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "state. It's only when you are dealing"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "with the upper class that you're getting"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "more liberal cosmopolitan people that"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "are connected to the outside that would"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "actually want to change the government."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "Those weren't the people that were"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "initially in the streets and now the"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "people in the streets with the with the"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "guns and uh and that are actually"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "attacking um government buildings are a"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "different crowd altogether. So yes,"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "those initial demonstrations,"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "it's possible as as we know as Americans"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "to protest your government without"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "wanting to overthrow it. And so there"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "were people that were there protesting"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "for their specific issues or things that"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "they wanted to advocate for within their"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "own governmental framework or their own"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "societal framework. And then these"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "outside actors or paid actors came in"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "and destabilized the situation and again"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "now are going to fire upon the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "government, try and get an exchange and"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "then try to get some energy behind a"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "foreign intervention in the country. And"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "so no matter what propaganda Americans"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "are get in the coming days, which could"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "be quite extreme, I just hope that we"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "can resist the urge to go in. But it"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "also looks as though according to US"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "media reports that Trump might want to"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "start bombing uh earlier rather than"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "later. So anything is possible at this"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "point like I said because Trump and"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "Netanyahu only have a small window. I"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "think Trump would like to wrap this up"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "before we get into the midterm political"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "season in the United States. So we only"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "have a few more weeks really before that"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "starts. Well, then just think about the"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "tens of thousands of Americans who were"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "at these military bases all throughout"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "the region. President Biden, you'll"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "recall, said it wasn't a matter of if"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "they would be killed and attacked. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "a matter of when. So, he knows that"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "they're just being used as cannon fodder"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "right now. So, Americans sitting there"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "as sitting ducks getting ready to be"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "attacked. Who knows what hell will be"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "unleashed in the next few days. Anya"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "Parel, great coverage as always over at"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "the Grey Zone. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "joining us today and providing your"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "perspective. Great to see you."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": ">> Always good to see you guys."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "We're going to talk about Venezuela um"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "and the technocratic takeover of that"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "country. You know, everyone's talking"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "about, oh, is it oil? Is it"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "drugs? Maduro was a drug kingpin. Come"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "on. No, it wasn't. Um our next guest has"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "written a great new piece at the"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "American Vagabond. Um and take a look."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Here's the article and details"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "specifically what has unfolded inside of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Venezuela. And here it is, the Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "technocracy connection. The US bombing"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "of Venezuela and capture of Nicholas"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "Maduro cannot be rationally explained as"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "a drug enforcement operation or even"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "solely about oil um or even solely about"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "recovering oil. The bigger picture is"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "technocracy. Our next guest is Derek"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Bros, one of the great journalists in"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "the world, great investigative"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "journalist who's been looking at this"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "closely. has been cover been covering"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "this technocratic takeover. Derek, great"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "to see you. You know, I love your"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "approach because so many people want to"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "get in the weeds on all of this. You"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "know, it's like, oh, was the trend"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "aragua, it's the cartel deololis, you"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "know, it's all the it was this and that."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "And you really take a much broader look"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "here, a much bigger look and showing us"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "maybe the the truth that's unfolding in"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Venezuela. Great to see you. So, the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "technocratic"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "connection in Venezuela, walk us through"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "what you uncovered."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> Yeah. So, as you said, Clayton, at the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "beginning that I don't think that the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "claims of the drug charges really stack"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "up, and we're already seeing that with"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "the DOJ, not even including the claim"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "that um Maduro is the head of the cartel"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "of the Suns in their indictment. And"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "there are some oil connections that I do"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "cover in my article. Like I thought it"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "was interesting that you start to look"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "at some of the oil companies that stand"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "to benefit from the US going into"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Venezuela if they do in in fact invest"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "and there's connections to BlackRock,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "you know, having about 1/5if or 1/4 of"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "the ownership of some of these"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "companies. But I do think the bigger"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "picture is the technocratic picture. And"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "um we've talked about this in past shows"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "and I know you've covered it as well,"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "but for those who are unfamiliar just"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "really briefly, technocracy was a"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "movement that was very popular in the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "United States and Canada in the 1930s,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "1940s up until about the 1950s. And it"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "is a movement that specifically said"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "they wanted to get rid of the political"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "class, get rid of the business class,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "and wanted to have the engineers and the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "experts running society. Essentially,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "there would be no more voting, no"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "democracy, anything like that. you would"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "get these so-called experts and"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "engineers to run the machines as they"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "used to say. I think today we would"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "probably consider that to be AI and a"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "lot of the technology we have today and"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "that these experts would micromanage all"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "of society. They would allocate"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "resources. Uh they promised it would be"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "utopia. They also did mention that it"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "would involve the loss of privacy and"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "some personal freedoms and things like"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "that. But that technocratic movement"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "when it was growing, they had this"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "vision of what they called the technate,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the North American technate, how they"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "wanted to control the North American"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "continent. They specifically say as far"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "up as Greenland, all of Canada, all of"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the US and Mexico and Panama and Central"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "parts of Central America going all the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "way down to Eastern Colombia and to"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "large portions of Venezuela. And as my"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "article there shows, you can see the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "original technocrats map that they"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "released in 1940 clearly showing this"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "effort to control the entire continent."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "And it's similar to different um"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "concepts people may have seen over the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "years, especially if you've been in this"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "research talk of say the North American"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Union, things like that. But what I"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "think is unique and the reason this"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "matters, you know, okay, it's a movement"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "from 100 years ago. How is that relevant"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "to 2026 and what Trump is doing now? I"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "think it's relevant because not only is"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Trump surrounded by the various"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "technocrats that I know you've covered"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "on the show such as Peter Teal,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "obviously Elon Musk, Elon Musk's"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "grandfather, Joshua Helman, was actually"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "involved in the technocracy movement in"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Canada was uh one of the directors of"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "technocracy incorporated. And so you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "have those sort of connections, but also"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "you have this uh aid, this adviser to"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Trump, Steven Miller. He's been one of"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "the biggest advocates for saying the US"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "is not only going to go into Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "but into Greenland. and you have his"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "wife Katie Miller talking about going to"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Greenland. When you start to stack these"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "things up and look at the original"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "technocrats plans and look at the people"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "who are surrounding Trump and you can"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "see that they are following this plan to"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "a tea. And so yes, it is about resources"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "like oil and there's other minerals and"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "and things like that. But I think it's"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "more than that. It's that they are"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "trying to implement this plan that"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "people connected to the trilateral"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "commission now deceased bigensi David"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Rockefeller the folks who originally"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "founded the trilateral commission in the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "1970s they were simply picking up this"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "plan from the original technocracy"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "movement and now in the 2020s Trump"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "seems to Trump and his team and people"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "around him seem to be following that"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "same plan from the original technocracy"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "movement."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> So that's really the the highlevel look"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "at this technate. It's crazy to think"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "about. I mean just like look at the map"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "here. I mean they literally have a map"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "from the 1940s as you point out the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "technate of America and I mean it's"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "right there like again listen to what"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "they say and then watch what they do and"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "all of these pieces are coming together."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "You got the Greenland piece of this. You"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "got Venezuela. You've got of course the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "pushing out of China and Russia in the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Western Hemisphere or at least the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "appearance of that anyway. Um, how does"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the maybe you can talk about some of the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "machinery behind the scenes? Like how"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "does this come to fruition from a"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "technocracy perspective? We're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "digital tracking. Um, one sort of I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "almost picturing like the European Union"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "in a way but without"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> it's very similar. Is it Washington DC"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "is in charge"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> instead of Brussels? In the case in the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "case of the the the Western Hemisphere"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "um the North American Technate, it"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "probably will will be and would be the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "United States in um in charge of that at"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "least the that's the way the original"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "technocrats envisioned it. And in their"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "own writing, they say the technate will"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "encompass the entire North American"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "continent from Panama to the North Pole"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "because the natural resources and the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "natural boundary of this area make it an"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "independent self-sustaining geographical"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "unit. So they did envision that the US"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "would probably be the the the strong"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "power here and they wanted to control"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "the entire continent and very similar"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "they also imagine there would be other"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "what they call techmates in different"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "parts of the world similar to what we"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "see with the European Union. I mentioned"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "the North American Union and they make"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "it clear that this is about resources in"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "one level that they want the resources"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "of Panama which I think we also have to"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "put in context that last year 2025 Larry"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Frink head of Black Rockck he bought two"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "ports in the Panama Canal and it was"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "reported numerous places that he"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "consulted with Trump before doing that."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Um, you also of course the I mentioned"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "that there there is mention of Colombia"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "and Venezuela specifically in the"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "technocrats plans and recently Trump of"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "course is starting to threaten the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "president of Colombia. Now again he's"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "saying this is about drugs but he's you"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "know putting him in on notice like he's"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "doing with Iran and elsewhere that the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the US will go in there if they want to."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "I I find that to be coincidental that"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "that sort of also aligns with the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "technocrats plans and even more"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "specifically to the Greenland aspect of"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "it. In 1940 in the technocracy magazine,"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the uh technocrats specifically mention"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Greenland and he says quote the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "acquisition of these territories should"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "be a mandatory part of the program of"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "continental defense for immediate"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "achievement and this is the important"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "part either by purchase, negotiation or"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "the force of arms. 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It"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "must be done because this is what needs"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "to take place in order for their plan of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "essentially a world government, what"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "many of us would call a new world order."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "I think that it we haven't always paid"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "attention to the technocracy movie and"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "the movement and the context of the new"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "world order, but it's essentially the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "same thing by another name. They want to"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "control and dominate as much the world"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "for resources. like you mentioned,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "there's some strategic reasons. You"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "know, we know that they're trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "dominate, the US is trying to dominate"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "more of the Western Hemisphere. Trump's"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "calling it the Donro doctrine, things"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "like that. But I think ultimately it"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "does come back to that technocratic"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "vision. And in their words, they"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "describe a world without freedom of"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "speech, a world without personal"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "privacy, a world where the machines, or"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "again, I I think we'd be referring to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the AI, uh, facial recognition, social"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "credit scores, things like that, where"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "the AI, the machines are used to"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "allocate the perfect amount of resources"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "because, as with most tyrants, they sell"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "this as a utopia where people would have"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "energy credits, which sounds very"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "similar to carbon credits, and that"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "those energy credits would be determine"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "how much you get of various resources or"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "products. down to the person. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "they they wanted this to be a highly"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "meticulous um highly engineered system."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "That's why they thought the engineers"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "and the experts should be at the top"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "because they said, \"Well, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "business people, they don't know what"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "the heck they're doing. The politicians"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "don't know what they're doing. The"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "people are too stupid to know what's"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "good for them. We need the experts to"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "micromanage all of society and that will"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "then, in their words and their view,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "lead us to some utopia.\""}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Did you know the biggest threat to your"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "smile is something silently happening to"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "your gums? More than 78% of people"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "worldwide experience gum recession that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "actually develops slowly over time. In"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "the United States, nearly 50% of adults"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "over 30 already show signs of gum"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "disease. 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Head to"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "twwc.health/redacted healthredacted and"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "use the code redacted."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> You also quote, as you mentioned, Steven"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Miller uh at the beginning when we"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "started talking. Um I just want to put"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "up a quote here on the screen that you"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "you have in your article. We live Miller"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "told uh Jake Tapper on CNN. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "going to fight the United States"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "militarily over the future of Greenland."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "We live in a world in the real world,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Jake, that is governed by strength, that"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "is governed by force, that is governed"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "by power. These are the iron laws of the"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "world since the beginning of time. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "you know, come hell or high water, no"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "one's going to mess with us to to to get"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "in the way of us taking Greenland. Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "for sure. And so, I guess that the real"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "question then is what about sovereignty?"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Are we're talking about these Latin"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "American countries, what what Canada, we"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "see the Alberta, the Alberta freedom"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "movement that's been I mean, people are"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "lined up um, you know, trying to"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "basically pushing for this referendum to"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "to secede from Canada. I guess there's"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "obviously a push to there's been a lot"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "of push for them to maybe join the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "United States oil pipeline going right"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "up through to Alberta. Um so you"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "connected to have that corridor there."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "So what happens to sovereignty?"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> Yeah, I think that's a great question"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Clayton and Steven Miller really gives"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "away the game right there. I mean, I've"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "been sort of reflecting on this recently"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "that on one hand in the past, I think"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "some of us might have felt like, well,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "when you have when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "politicians like Obama and others, they"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "they talk they're well spoken"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "constitutional attorney, people sort of"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "can they can be deceived by the mask and"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "not realize, you know, the the American"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "empire that's behind it. But in the case"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "of Trump and his recent actions and and"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "the saber rattling that's ongoing as we"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "speak here, it's like the mask has come"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "off the empire. Steven Miller and others"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "are saying, \"Look, we're going to do"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "whatever we want. We're going to take"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Greenland if we want. We're going to do"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "it militarily. We're gonna go into"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Venezuela. We might go into Colombia. We"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "might go into Cuba. They're threatening"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Mexico where I'm at right now. And I"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "think that again on one hand, it feels"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "like, okay, great. The mask is off and"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "at least they're being real that they"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "believe rule of, you know, the rule of"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "the of the jungle and is is might is"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "right. And and that's kind of how it"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "always has been. It's just again there"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "was that veneer that people like Obama"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "and others tried to to maintain and have"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "this political legitimacy. But in fact,"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "it turns out it doesn't feel any better"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "whenever the mask comes off. In fact, it"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "feels even uglier. It's like, \"Wow, this"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "is where we really are.\" You have these"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "people like Stephen Miller feeling"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "perfectly, I guess, content and safe to"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "say on public television, \"We're going"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "to do what we want. Nobody's going to"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "stop us.\" And as I point out in the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "article as well, his wife, she posted on"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Twitter the map of Greenland with the"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "American colors over it and said,"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "\"Soon.\" Um, maybe she knows something."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "We don't know, but they're clearly"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "telegraphing that they're going to come"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "for Greenland. And as I said, this fits"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "perfectly in with the Technocrats plan."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Another just interesting detail that I"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "found that Katie Miller, Steven Miller's"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "wife, she was a an employee of the Doge"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "um experiment under Elon and then worked"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "with Elon directly before now she has a"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "podcast. But it's just you start to see"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "again the circles that these folks are"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "all running in. The technocrats either"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "advising Donald Trump, funding his"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "campaigns. Um, we have at least 17 to 20"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "different uh acolytes of Peter Teal who"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "are in the Trump administration in"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "different departments. We have members"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "of the Bilderberg Group. Uh, we have uh"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "members of the World Economic Forum,"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Young Global Leaders. I pointed this out"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "in numerous articles in 2025. And I"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "think what we're seeing here with"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Venezuela, with the threats to Greenland"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "and elsewhere, is really just showing"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "that um the same people who have been in"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "charge over the last decades, they're"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "still there. You know, there may be some"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "aberrations with Trump and his"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "unpredictableness, but for the most"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "part, the the same agendas we've been"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "opposing uh during Democratic regimes"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "and Republican regimes prior to Trump"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "continue in 2026"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": ">> unabated. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Um take"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "a look at this. Uh Derek, this was uh a"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "short time ago in Caracus."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "This is a large rally, a pro- Maduro"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "rally. Again, you're not going to see"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "this on Fox News, I don't think. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "you will, but probably not going to see"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "this on the like MAGA influencer uh"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "social feeds, but what do you make of"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "this? I mean, that tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "people coming out and with signs of"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Maduro and and and posters of Maduro and"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "showing their support for him."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": ">> Yeah, I saw that video when you sent it"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "earlier. I haven't had a chance to, you"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "know, look into the finer details of"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "that one. But I will say that it is a"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "fact for sure that there are people who"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "do support Maduro within Venezuela. It"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "is also a fact, of course, there are"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "people, Venezuelans both in and out of"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "the country who do not support uh"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "Nicholas Maduro. And I think that that"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "just goes to the fact that like just"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "think about the United States for"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "example. We have people who are"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "adamantly for Donald Trump and"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "everything he does and they're going to"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "support him regardless. And then there"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "are other people who are adamantly"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "against him and are going to be opposed"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "to everything he does. And it's easy for"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "let's say a foreign country if they were"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "from the outside looking in to spin any"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "opposition to Trump as like look he's"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "unpopular that we should we should"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "intervene. And that's essentially what"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "the United States tries to do in these"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "other countries whether it's Iran,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "Venezuela, Mexico with Shanbomb. We"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "talked about that recently that you can"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "take these different protests either for"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "or against the regime and you can"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "amplify that and say look the people"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "clearly do not like the person in power."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "we need to go intervene or you could"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "tell the opposite story. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "it's just a sign that things are not as"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "black and white as uh the American media"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "may want people to believe as MAGA media"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "might want people to believe and that's"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "not an endorsement of Nicholas Maduro in"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "any way. You can just sit back and be"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "objective and say look some Venezuelans"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "do like him for whatever reason whether"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "you agree with those or not and there"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "are many Venezuelans who do oppose him"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "and and maybe um I think foolishly would"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "like the US to intervene. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "the same thing we're seeing here in"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Mexico that there are polls showing that"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "some Mexicans would support US"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "intervention, which I think would be a"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "horrible mistake and I pray does not"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "happen, but there are others who are"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "adamantly opposed to it. So, it's just"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "about how which lens you want to look"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "through and which stories the media"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "wants to amplify. And obviously, we know"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "that at the moment the story is the uh"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "Venezuelan people, the Iranian people,"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "uh the Cubans, the, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "Greenlanders, they all want the US's"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "help. They're begging for our help. they"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "want us to come, you know, save them,"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "etc. That's the narrative that the Trump"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "administration wants to be out there,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": ">> right? And I should point out that march"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "that we were just seeing there was a was"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "the great workers march or the large"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "workers march. Um, and you know, and is"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "what they're what they're calling for"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "and even what the local media was saying"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "there was the um was the free President"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Maduro and the first lady or liberate uh"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "the president and the first lady. So to"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "your point and that's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "seeing in Iran right now, right? if you"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "like can you actually talk about like"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "the the legitimate protests and why they"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "were upset about high inflation over the"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "past few weeks and then can you also"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "then have a conversation about MSAD and"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "the CIA infiltrating and actually"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "co-opting those protests and you know"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "it's not that's why these things work"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "right that's why these co-opting of"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "these types of protests by the CIA these"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "color revolutions"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "otherwise that's why it works because it"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "looks like all of these people are are"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "upset and They're attacking each other."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "January 6th, you have feds involved in"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "creating that, right? So, it's the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "reason they do it is because it works."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "And these things can all be true, as you"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "said. I mean, there's definitely people"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "upset at the Iranian government and"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "upset about uh inflation and other"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "issues. And it appears from some"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "protests and things we're seeing, which"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "I mean, obviously AI generated videos is"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "a concern these days, and we have to be"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "careful and skeptical and not just, you"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "know, go ahead and repost something"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "because it confirms your biases. But it"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "does seem to be true that in that case"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "in Iran as well, there are people who do"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "support the regime. Again, we don't have"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "to agree with their reasoning. Um, just"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "to recognize that the situation is more"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "complex on the ground and and that's"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "something that we talked about uh"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "recently in Mexico when I was out here"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "reporting. And yes, there are people who"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "oppose the current president. There are"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "people who who gratefully, you know, are"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "grateful for her and support her. Both"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "factions exist and we have to be willing"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "to kind of look into these nuances. Look"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "at these bigger pictures like I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "to do here in Venezuela with the"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "technocracy angle and ask who benefits"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "from this. Who stands to gain? Who"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "stands to gain from the US bombing"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "intervening in Iran and Venezuela and uh"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "you know in Mexico and Cuba and Colombia"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "and all these other places. And I think"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "unfortunately we are going to see more"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "of this. 2026 is just beginning and you"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "know maybe there's some level of saber"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "rattling that's just going on. just"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Trump talking a big game like with"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Mexico. I thought maybe some of this"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "talk about we're going to go into Mexico"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "on land, it could be sort of a"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "bargaining chip for the fact that this"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "summer 2026 the US Mexico Canada"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "agreement is coming up for uh"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "renegotiation. And so maybe Trump is"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "doing some of the saber rattling as a"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "way to get a better position. There are"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "definitely more factors and angles than"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "we are typically shown in the corporate"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "media and even in the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "alternative media. So, I definitely"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "appreciate you giving me a chance,"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "Clayton, to talk about this and bring in"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "the technocracy angle because I I do"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "think too many people are missing this"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "piece of the puzzle."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> No, I you you blew me away with it and I"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "hadn't thought about it. Um, people are"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "talking about drugs and oil and other"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "things and archaeological dig sites that"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "are actually hidden there underground."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Um, there's a lot of stuff going on, but"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "I have not heard anyone talking about"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "the technocracy. And as you pointed out,"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "it's all written down. Like it's all"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "part of their plan and it has been um"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "all of these secret dark forces for a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "long long time. So I encourage our our"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "audience to go over to the American"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "vagabond and read Derek's great piece."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "It's eye opening and that's why"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> I just got to say that like this is s"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "this this is the first I' I've ever"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "heard of this and my my brain is just on"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "fire right now thinking about this"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "because if you think like what was the"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "very first the very first beef Trump got"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "into was with Canada."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> I remember at the time thinking like why"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Canada? What the hell is going on? And"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "then you see that map and it's like,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "\"Oh, cuz we need that.\" It's like"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "immediately like wasted no time going"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "after Canada, Greenland. Like I This is"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "all like brand new to me. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "be checking out this article here uh"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "when we're done."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": ">> Well, and Steven Miller, very very"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "smart, right? Very smart. Um and had"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "been sort of planning a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "pieces for a long time. It seems many,"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "many years. I mean, he apparently even"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "wanted to be like be the second number"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "two in the White House basically going"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "back 15 years, laying the groundwork on"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "all of this. So, you know, um you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": ">> he definitely got some aspirations for"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "power for sure."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it just reminds me of like"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "the plans that were in place from"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "neocons's Cheney and others well ahead"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "of what we saw on 911 and the Patriot"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "Act. Like the Patriot Act didn't just"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "come out of nowhere. it had been written"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "down and planned years earlier. And so"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "again, I come back to these plans where"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "these"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": ">> these deep dark souls get together in"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "smoky rooms and have these, you know,"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "have these meetings and it it informs"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "everything that we're seeing today. So I"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "encourage people to go and read it."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "Derek, thank you for being the tip of"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "the spear on this stuff. I really"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "appreciate it. Great work as usual."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": ">> Thank you, Clayton. Appreciate your"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "time."}]

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She was there on Friday."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Is she right? What more must be done?"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> The actually the facts are these. There"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "are more children about 600 700 more"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "children unaccompanied children coming o"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "over the border. uh the uh this is a"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "humanitarian challenge to all of us. Uh"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "what the administration has inherited is"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "a broken system at the border and they"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "are working to correct that in the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "children's interest. I'm so pleased that"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "the president as a temporary measure has"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "sent FEMA to the border in order to help"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "facilitate the children going from one"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "72-hour"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "issue into where they are cared for as"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "they are transferred into family homes"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "or homes that are safe for them to be."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "And I have to confess, I knew nothing"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "about their suffering until 2021 when I"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "volunteered to help the Biden"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "administration with the crisis at the"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "southern border. As part of Operation"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Artemis, I was deployed to the Pomona"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Fairplex Emergency Intake Site in"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "California to help HHS Office of Refugee"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Resettlement reunite children with"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "sponsors in the United States. I thought"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "I was going to help place children in"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "loving homes. Instead, I discovered that"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "children are being trafficked through a"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "sophisticated network that begins with"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "recruiting in home country, smuggling to"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the US border, and ends when ORR"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "delivers a child to a sponsor. Some"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "sponsors are criminals and traffickers"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "and members of transnational criminal"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "organizations. Some sponsors view"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "children as commodities and assets to be"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "used for earning income. This is why we"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "are witnessing an explosion of labor"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "trafficking. Now, whether it's"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "intentional or not, it could be argued"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "that the United States government has"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "become the middleman in a largecale"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "multi-billion dollar child trafficking"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "operation that is run by bad actors"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "seeking to profit off of the lives of"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "children."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Russia said once they take Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Poland land and the Baltics are next."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Those are NATO countries. That puts"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "America at war. This is about preventing"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "war. It's always been about preventing"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "war. My husband is a combat veteran."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "He's deployed now. The last thing I want"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "him or any of his military brothers and"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "sisters to do is to go to war."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> I think it is time to give the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Ukrainians more help uh hitting these"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "bases inside Russia. One of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "that the administration has hesitated is"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "because they believe it will escalate"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "things even further with Russia. Pull"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "the US further in. Why not? Why? So why"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "do you think that's a good idea?"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> Because it's Russia that has escalated"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "this war. Russia has learned how to pull"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "its forces back out of the range where"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "we have allowed uh Ukraine to use our"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "weapons and get our support. American"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "media outlets have spoken to scores of"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "people from Ukraine and they have done"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "scores of interviews with Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "President Silinski. We ourselves have"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "put in a request for an interview with"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Silinski. We hope he accepts. But the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "interviews he's already done in the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "United States are not traditional"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "interviews. They are fawning PEP"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "sessions specifically designed to"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "amplify Zalinsk's demand that the US"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "enter more deeply into a war in Eastern"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Europe and pay for it. That is not"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "journalism. It is government propaganda."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Propaganda of the ugliest kind. The kind"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "that kills people. At the same time, our"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "politicians and media outlets have been"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "doing this, promoting a foreign leader"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "like he's a new consumer brand. Not a"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "single Western journalist has bothered"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "to interview the president of the other"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "country involved in this conflict,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Vladimir Putin. Most Americans have no"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "his goals are now. They've never heard"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "his voice. That's wrong. Americans have"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "a right to know all they can about a war"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "they're implicated in. And we have the"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "right to tell them about it because we"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "are Americans, too."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> The idea that we're going to send in"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "offensive equipment and have planes and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "tanks and trains going in with American"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "pilots and American crews. Just"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "understand and don't kid yourself. No"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "matter what you all say, that's called"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "World War II. US official has confirmed"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "to CBS News President Biden has given"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "authorization for Kev to use US supplied"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "longrange weapons to strike deep into"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Russian territory."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "I'm sitting here with my father. I will"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "make certain that between the man"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "sitting next to me and every person he"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "knows and my ability to forever hold a"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "grudge that you will regret not"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "following my direction. I am sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "here waiting for the call with my"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "father."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it,"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "director?"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> I'm not going to get into company with"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> You you you seem deeply uncurious about"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "it, don't you? Almost suspiciously"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "uncurious. Are you protecting the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Bidens?"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Absolutely not. The FBI doesn't answer."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "You won't answer the question about"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "whether or not that's a shakeddown. And"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "everybody knows why you won't answer it."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Because to ev to the millions of people"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "who will see this, they know it is. And"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "your inability to acknowledge that is"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "deeply revealing about you."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "What are you doing?"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> British police came into the embassy and"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "arrested."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> After a long flight from the UK, Julian"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Assange's day began on the island of"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Saipan, a tiny territory chosen because"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "it's the closest US court to Australia."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "This normally quiet courthouse swarming"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "with reporters and the Wikileaks founder"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "arrived flanked by former Prime Minister"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Kevin Rudd."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "The individual used an AR-15 in order to"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "act out his assassination attempt. An"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "AR-15 has a range of about 4 to 600"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "yards. My question, why is the Secret"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Service protective perimeter"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "shorter than one of the most popular"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "semi-automatic weapons in the United"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "States? There are a number of weapons"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "out there uh with a number of ranges. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "again, an advance was completed. uh the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "determination of the perimeter. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "going to speak to specifics, but there"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "are a number of factors that are taken"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "into account when we determine our"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "perimeter. Uh some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "terrain, some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "buildings, some of it has to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "assets and resources uh that are"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "available. What I'm hearing is that a"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "perimeter was not established outdoors"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "in an outdoor venue that would prevent"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "an AR-15, which is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "common weapons used in mass shootings,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "um, from being able to to be within the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "range of Secret Service protection."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Have you provided all audio and video"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "recordings in your possession to this"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "committee as we asked on July 15th? Yes"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "or no?"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> I would have to get back to you."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> That is a no. You're full of today."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "You're just being completely dishonest."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "So what is the threat to democracy?"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "People on both sides, people in power"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "saying out loud that they want to"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "control what you get to hear and see. It"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "is real. It is a threat"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "and it is happening and growing. And"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "I'll tell you what, punishing thought"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "is on the agenda. And I just heard it"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "from someone who's not a coupe, not Alex"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Jones, not Tucker Carlson, one of the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "most sober and intelligent politicians"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "of our time, Hillary Rodm Clinton."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> I think it's important to indict uh the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Russians uh just as Mueller indicted a"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "lot of Russians uh who were engaged in"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "uh uh direct election interference and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "think there are Americans who are uh"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "and whether they should be civily or"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "even in some cases criminally charged uh"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "is something that would be a better"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "deterrent."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg admitted that"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "the Biden administration repeatedly"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "pressured Meta to censor content"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "including information about Hunter"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Biden. And Zuck admitted that he also"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "regrets complying with these demands. In"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "a letter to the House Judiciary"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Committee chairman, Representative Jim"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "Jordan, Zuck writes, quote, \"The FBI"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "warned us about a potential Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "disinformation operation about the Biden"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "family and Bereisma in the leadup to the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "2020 election. That fall, when we saw a"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "New York Post story reporting on Joe"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Biden's family, we sent that story to"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "fact checkers for review and temporarily"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "demoted it.\" you know, you do some"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "tweets that seem to be or at least give"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "support to some who would call others"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "conspiracy theories."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "some of these conspiracy theories uh"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "have turned out to be true."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> Which ones?"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> Well, like the the Hunter Biden laptop."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> I am in awe of Ms. Janowitz,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "when the department picked her, did did"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "it know that she had said that Mr."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "disinformation? Did it know that she had"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "vouched"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "for the veracity of the steel dossier?"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Uh, Senator, let me um repeat myself and"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "add an additional fact. Um, one, we do"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "not discuss uh internal hiring"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "processes."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> I think you've got no idea what"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "disinformation is, and I don't think the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "government's capable of it. Do you know"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "who the greatest propagator of"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "disinformation in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "world is? The US government. Think of"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "all the debates and disputes we've had"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "over the last 50 years in our country."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "We work them out by debating them. We"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "don't work them out by the government"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "being the arbiter. I don't want you"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "guard rails. I want you to have nothing"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "to do with speech."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "To be a conspiracy theorist is to have"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "been right all along despite the efforts"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "of the paid for liars. And it's also to"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "be demonstrably well ahead of the"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "gullible still believing in smoke and"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "mirrors. conspiracy theorist was first"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "used by the CIA to shut down those who"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "doubted the official line about the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "murder of John F. Kennedy. That fishy"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "old tale about a lone shooter and a"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "magic bullet and then that lone shooter"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "being shot by another lone shooter"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "before he could talk. That was in the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "1960s and from then the label conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "theorist worked for decades as the means"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "to make thinking people too scared to"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "speak when they smelt a rat. Let 2024 be"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "the year of clearing out the rubbish,"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "the trash, the long overdue year when"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the pastor or sell by date labels,"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "conspiracy theorists among them, are"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "cast into the dust bin of history."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "It is time to wake up. On this show, we"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "cover the stories the mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "won't touch live from the Rocky"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "Mountains. Welcome to Redacted with"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "Natalie and Clayton Morris. Are you"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "ready? Let's get uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Someone wrote and said, \"I like your new"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "introduction. It eases me into the it's"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "I like the mellow easing into the world"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "of craziness that we're dealing with"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "right now with the news. Um, and we are"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "I mean got I don't know if you guys have"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "seen all the outages. We've seen massive"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "internet outages, Verizon outages,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "T-Mobile outages. We had some outages"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "earlier. A lot of people dealing with"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "it. Um, seems like ominous signs right"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "now. Lufansza has now canceled all"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "flights into Israel. The president just"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "spoke moments ago and issued kind of a"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "weird statement about what Iran is"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "doing. Are we barreling towards war with"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Iran within the next 24 or 48 hours?"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "We're going to talk about that on the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "show."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> Uh we're also going to talk about how"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "the Clintons both have not showed up for"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "their depositions to Congress over their"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Why"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "do you think that is? And what do you"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "think the consequences should be? Now,"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "we have laws that lay out what happens"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "if you defy a congressional subpoena."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Here's the question. Do they apply to"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "the Clintons? So, we're going to talk"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": ">> Also, a a reporter's home, a Washington"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Post reporter's home was raided by the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "FBI. I guess we're throwing out the"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "United States Constitution now. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "protections for the for for journalists."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Um, it is interesting, and we're going"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "to talk about this and unpack it because"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "the Washington Post, of course, is"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "really an extension of the CIA. It is"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "the CIA is basically it's it's its own"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "newsroom for crying out loud. So you"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "wonder why like the FBI"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": ">> would need to do that."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Just like call up your friends in"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "the CIA like almost the Washington Post"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "operates here. Right. Exactly. Exactly"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "right. All right. Uh fortunately the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "outages did not prevent me from getting"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Bruno Mars tickets today. So um you can"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "congratulate for me. I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "hear if he's in any kind of cabal. I"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "don't want to hear that. So every time I"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "say I love somebody. They're like you"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "know he's blah blah blah. You need to"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "keep that to yourself. I need some"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "certain things to myself. I'm keeping"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Bruno, please. It's like him and Ko"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "Reeves. We need to keep those."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": ">> Just keep them keep them protected. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "please. At all costs. All right. Well,"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "we've got a lot of news to get to today."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "Um, but first,"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": ">> first we want to tell you about our"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "friends over at Mint Mobile because hey,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "uh, now that the holidays are over, you"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "might be looking at your finances"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "because it's January and thinking, why"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "do I spend so much on this, that, and or"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "the other? 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Well, you're not"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "alone. So, try to look first at these"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "essentials such as your mobile contract."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Go to mintmobile.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> All right. All right. Well, someone in"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "the chat room just says, \"Clayton, there"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "may be propaganda on the Iran uprising,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "but worse propaganda is denying the"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "uprising popularity and denying regime"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "behavior.\" Well, we've never done that"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "at all. Just a matter of should the"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "United States be bombing that country in"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "order to help uprisers? We'll talk more"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "about that in a second because"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> one of the ways that I'd like to to lay"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "it out is do you think the country that"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "has sanctioned them into mass"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "destruction is their savior? who think"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "who would logically think Stockholm"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "syndrome,"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": ">> right? So again, yes, we can we can"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "support something, but what does that"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "mean? So, we're going to talk about that"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "right this second."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": ">> Well, Russian President Putin just"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "issued a fullthroated warning to the"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "United States and Israel against"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "attacking Iran. Putin said any attack"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "would be a grave mistake and come with"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "devastating consequences. While Russia"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "has cautioned the United States over"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "attacking Iran, it has said that the"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "threats of new military strikes on Iran"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "are categorically unacceptable. Moscow"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "has slammed Washington in what it calls"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "a subversive external interference in"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "Thran's internal politics."}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": ">> Well, you'll recall that Putin of course"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "doesn't bluff and all Russians have now"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "been removed and left Israel. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "according to sources, of course, Putin"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "was absolutely furious about the way"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "that Israel handed the Syria situation."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Of course, felt, in fact, totally"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "betrayed by Netanyahu over what happened"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "in Syria. Um, here we now have Russia"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "sent multiple large freight flights into"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Thrron over the past few days, including"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "another one uh today. Could that be why"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "President Trump is now saying that the"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "killing is winding down? Listen, just a"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "few minutes ago."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": ">> Sorry, I don't have it."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Meanwhile, well, so President"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "Trump will just paraphrase what he said"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "just a few minutes ago. He said that uh"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "he said, \"Oh, we we just got on good"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "authority that uh the killing has now"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "stopped.\" Basically, all but stopped. We"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "have that on good authority. When a"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "reporter asked"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "about that,"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": ">> it's winding down."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": ">> It's winding down. It's like the end of"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "your coffee. It's amazing how you would"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "actually know that, by the way, unless"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "the CIA and MSAD was actively involved"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "in actually stoking a lot of this"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "violence. But okay, nevertheless,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "meanwhile, the propagandists are using"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "the same old script ripped from the"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "exact same playbook they've used"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "countless times to sell us a war in"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "Iran. Pro-Zionists accounts sharing fake"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "death numbers out of Iran, so-called"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "MAGA influencers sharing fake protest"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "videos. Um, are there real protests?"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "Yes, of course there were. Um, are we"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "being told the truth about what's"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "happened? No, we're not. Uh Mark Leavvin"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "posted this. Just spoke with a friend"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "who managed to reach Iraqi Kurdistan."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "This is what he told me. The number of"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "people killed is far higher than the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "12,000. The massacre is beyond horrific."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": ">> Oh, 12,000 deaths bother him. Who's"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "going to tell him about Gaza?"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": ">> No, they don't care. They're able to"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "compartmentalize this stuff. Uh Laura"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "Loomer, new video from Iran. She shares"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "a video um of body bags on the streets."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "An Iranian friend of mine just sent me"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "this footage from Iran. So many nearly"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "20,000 Iranians have been murdered by"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the regime for protesting for their"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "freedom. Streets are lined with dead"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "bodies and body bags. There aren't"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "enough body bags to keep up with the"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "death toll. And she posted"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> funny how all these"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": ">> Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:21", "text": ">> I was going to say funny how these"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "people all of a sudden have Iranian"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "friends."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:26", "text": ">> Yeah, it is true. She's got lots of"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "friends in Iran. So all of the people"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "who cried about the fake genocide she"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "posts in Gaza for 2 years are awfully"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "quiet right now about the massacre of"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "15,000 innocent Iranians this week. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "a straightup cult. Of course, Loomer is"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "conveniently leaving out the part where"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "MSAD is playing a very heavy hand in"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "these protests. According to our"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "sources, MSAD has killed many people on"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "both the Iranian security forces side"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "and the civilian side. But she's just"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "conveniently ignoring that and that part"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "of the story. In fact, Israel's Channel"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "14, Israel's own media reporting that"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "MSAD is literally arming people here. We"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "reported tonight on Channel 14. This is"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Israeli, by the way. We reported tonight"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "on Channel 14, foreign actors are arming"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "the protesters in Iran with live"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "firearms, which is the reason for the"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "hundreds of regime personnel killed."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "Everyone is free to guess who was behind"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "it. That's one part of the story. The"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "other part of the story, of course, is"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "about the impending military action. and"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "quite a few reports surfacing today"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "saying suggesting Reuters suggesting"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "within 24 hours. The United States is"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "about to bomb Iran."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "Uh but remember Trump likes to bomb"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "countries over the weekend when the"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "markets are closed like Friday into"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "Saturday morning like last time when the"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "oil markets are closed and the stock"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "market is closed. So for more on all of"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "this to try to understand really what's"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "happening there uh we want to bring in"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "Ana Parm from the grrey zone. She was"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "recently in Iran. She's been covering"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "the story heavily and uh she is the"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "author of corporate coup Venezuela and"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "the end of US empire doing a great job"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "obviously covering the Venezuela portion"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "of the story as well. Anya, welcome back"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "to the show. Great to see you."}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": ">> Nice to see you guys. Hi Natalie and hi"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "Clayton."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": ">> Hello there."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> So you know people in the chat room it's"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "like well"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "you cannot disregard the popular"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "uprising, right? That that's the that's"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "the line, right? You can't disregard the"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "actual on the ground uprising and how"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "people are being treated there. Why are"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "you ignoring that? We're not ignoring it"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "at all, but we're just pointing out the"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "US involvement in it. Anyway, that's"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "just a side note here. But what do you"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "see happening on the ground right now?"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "Like what is the truth coming out of"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "Iran at this hour?"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "people who want to point out obvious"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "grievances that the Iranian population"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "may have or struggles that may bring"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "them out into the street should start by"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "asking themselves why Iranians were"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "first demonstrating earlier this year."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "Essentially, what happened was at the"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "turn of the at the new year, which is"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "not their new year, but it is for us,"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "people, mostly poor working-class"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "merchants in Iran, went into the streets"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "in order to protest rising inflation and"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "a worsening economic situation in the"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "country. We can discuss how sanctions"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "have ravaged them since the 1979 Islamic"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "Revolution and how the United States"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "openly admits to using sanctions as a"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "weapon in order to bring countries alike"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "Iran to its knees. There's Richard"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "Nephew, the former Obama era State"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "Department official who actually wrote a"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "book bragging about how through his"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "negotiation and crafting the maximum"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "pressure campaign on Iran that pushed"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "Iran to the negotiating table to give up"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "its nuclear program or agreed to more"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "restraints and monitoring from the"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "international community. uh that he for"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "example was able to manipulate the price"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "of uh butter in Russia or uh that he was"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "able to manipulate the price of meat and"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "chicken and things in Iran that people"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "needed for their New Year's celebration"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "uh when they celebrate in May. A so US"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "officials have admitted uh that they've"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "purposefully crafted policy in order to"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "do what we see now, which is bring"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "people into the streets. But it's"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "important to note that those initial"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "anti-government demonstrations that uh"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "were again focused on economic issues"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "were actually based on uh what we've"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "been able to report at the gray zone and"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "through analyzing sources and discussing"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "with our sources on the ground. Those"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "demonstrations were initially held by"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "people that were progovern or even"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "conservative more conservative than the"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "liberal government currently in power."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "and the government including the"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "Ayatollah actually made concessions and"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "said that they had legitimate"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "grievances. The president uh Peskan also"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "said that he took responsibility for"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "making decisions that may have led to"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "these sort of protests. And so these"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "demonstrations began to fizzle out. And"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "what happened was then suddenly this"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "violent element appeared in the street."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "And now for the past few days uh there's"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "been a kind of a blackout of information"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "coming out of Iran partially because the"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "government has cut the internet. They"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "say this is part of an effort to track"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "MSAD agents and American CIA uh"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "connected uh individuals in Iran that"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "they are now trying to weed out through"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "monitoring communication that's coming"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "from the international community. And"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "the videos that have come out include"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "riotus demonstrations, attacks on"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "mosques. They've burned down multiple"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "important religious buildings in the"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "country, fired upon police officers."}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "There's reports of uh crowds lynching"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "police officers a in in the streets. And"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "so what what looks to have happened is"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "that the situation went from a"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "legitimate peaceful protest and now what"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "we're seeing much like what happened in"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "Syria in 2011 is an element with outside"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "support coming in to destabilize the"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "country and also bring a response from"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "the government that then prompts the"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "United States and its allies in the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "region to say look now we can intervene"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "because the government has acted against"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "its people. So what do you say of this"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "rhetoric which is heavily promoted on"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "Instagram and Tik Tok that uh these are"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "oppressed people. They are protesting"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "the hijab. They want to live like the"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "rest of us and this is otherwise organic"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "and they're risking their lives because"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "they are normally oppressed and killed"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "on a regular basis. You were in Iran"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "just less than a year ago. Is was that"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "your experience? these really backwater"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "oppressed people, shoeless and you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "no rights for women."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "On the hijab front, by the time I made"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "it to Iran in May of last year, they"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "were not enforcing covering in Tehran"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "and Isvahan. I was in two major cities"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "and unless I was in an official"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "government or state building, for"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "example, when I went to the press TV"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "offices to do interviews at the state"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "media channel, I was asked to wear a"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "hijab. But otherwise, when I was in"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "cafes, when I was in the street, when I"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "was in restaurants, hotel lobbies,"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "whatever, I did not have to wear a"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "hijab. And that was the case when I went"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "out that Iranian women in in general"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "have begun to take off the scarf. And"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "really, I think the government made a"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "decision that taking that issue off the"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "table for the West was for them a a good"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "decision because or a worthwhile"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "calculation because the most obvious"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "point of repression that we've heard"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "about in the West for all these years is"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "that women are not able to make choices"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "about what they wear. And they're"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "changing in that regard. But it's coming"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "from the people there, not any of this"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "outside violent uh MSAD. You have Mike"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "Pompeo, the Secretary of State, former"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "Secretary of State of the United States"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "tweet that he wishes luck to all the"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "MSAD agents marching alongside the"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "Iranian protesters in the street. I"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "tweet. But uh the US officials currently"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "in power that are working so closely"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "with Netanyahu to carry out what's"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "really Israel's aligned pol Israel's"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "best policy for the region are are"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "openly talking about their support for"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "uh these demonstrations. You had Rick"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "Rennell, an envoy of Trump, saying that"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "he smuggled gay and lesbian people out"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "of Iran, which is an odd admission from"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "a US government official. So when you"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "have that level of outside pressure, I"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "think it actually takes away from"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "whatever legitimate movements do exist"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "on the ground, the people of Iran will,"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "it's just the natural progression of"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "human history gain their own rights, but"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "they'll do it on their own terms. And we"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "can't even judge their society because"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "honestly it is different than ours that"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "we can't understand that they're they're"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "just in a different process. They're on"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "a different timeline for these things"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "than we are and we can't force it. In"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "fact, the more we get involved, I think"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "then the more it gives the state an"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "excuse to crack down or not have any"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "other room for debate. Now, something"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "and I have joked about is that we both"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "have what they call in the broadcast"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "world global face. So, if you were"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "walking around in Iran without a hijab,"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "you could pass as Iranian. That's my"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "assessment. So, no one's going to say"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "you were given this foreigner pass,"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "right? And so, if you were comfortable"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "like that, that's a real data point that"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "really that shuts down all of these"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "feminist talking points as um"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "illegitimate."}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "Yeah. And if you you can go online, it's"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "very Max always before we went to Iran,"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "he was looking up these videos and so"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "he's encouraged viewers to also check"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "out online. And you can just search"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "walking around a mall in Iran or streams"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "of people walking in the market and"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "it'll just be someone filming their"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "casual stroll through a crowd and you'll"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "see that many of the women are not"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "covered. So this is not just my personal"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "story or something that I can say based"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "on my experience. It was based on"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "talking to women there and it was based"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "on talking to or based on just gathering"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "this evidence and these videos ahead of"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "time to see what we should expect when"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "we went to Iran. And on the women's"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "issue, like women anywhere else, the"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "women that I spoke to in Iran were"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "concerned about the economy. They're"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "worried about the fact that they have to"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "work constantly and then can't a and all"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "of their money goes to paying for their"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "housing and their food and child care"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "and that they can't save. Their"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "complaints sound a lot like the"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "complaints that we face in the United"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "States. And the best way to address"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "those concerns of the average Iranian"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "woman, I think the best thing any"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "American could do is to say lift the"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "sanctions on the Iranian people because"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "that's pretty much all all we can do. We"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "have no business doing anything else or"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "forcing our ways on them. So, I just"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "want to go back to before we let you go"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "on you just the idea that, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "body bags on the streets. You there's"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "just so so much misinformation pouring"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "out of there right now. You're hearing,"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "you know, the likes of like the"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "pro-Zionist pro-Israel crowd, the"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "Israel's first crowd, you know, like the"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "Laura Loomers, Mark Levvin types who"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "absolutely want this regime change war."}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "Um, they're absolutely ignoring, of"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "course, the MSAD intervention and"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "involvement in all of this, which has"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "been confirmed on the Israeli side. I"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "don't know why they're just ignoring"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "that conveniently. It's very"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "interesting. But what do we do you have"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "specific numbers that you know about"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "exactly how many people have been"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "killed, who's doing the killing?"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "I think right now it's very difficult to"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "make any claims that we know based on"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "numbers coming out of Iran because I can"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "barely be in contact with the people"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "that I know there because of the the"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": ">> difficulties. Yeah. Because the blackout"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "and because of just we one of the"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "contacts that we've interviewed on the"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "gray zone regularly, Satara, uh uh who"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "people may have seen her, she's very"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "vocal on X, her neighbor was killed in"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "one of these attacks. So everybody's"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "kind of in flux there and it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "it's hard to uh know what information or"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "in terms of numbers is correct. But I"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "will say that we saw the CBS newsly"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "controlled by Bari Weiss issue some"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "claim that 20,000 or 22,000 people had"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "been killed. I would say that that's"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "probably a gross overestimation, but"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "with the way things are looking now with"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "this increased violent action in the"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "streets, people with guns, people"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "setting fire to buildings, that is very"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "dangerous. And so, I'm sure we will see"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "body bags and we will see"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "confrontations, but we will have to ask"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "how did how how did it get to this"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "point? Who are the people coming in with"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "the guns and causing the chaos? If we"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "see somebody crying over a dead"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "relative, we need to ask, well, who"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "actually killed their relative? Was it"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "the state or was it these violent"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "militias that have suddenly appeared in"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "the country? Are we looking at a repeat"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "of Syria? That, I think, is what's"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "possibly going to play out in Iran over"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "the next few months because it's easier"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "for the US and Israel to go that route"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "than to just start an aggressive bombing"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "campaign now. I think they want to act"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "in this window that they have with Trump"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "and Netanyahu in power. This is the last"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "country that they would like to topple"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "while both of them are still around. And"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "so it seems right now that they are they"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "are greasing the gears for a Syria style"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "CIA covertbacked"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "civil war scenario in Iran. And so I"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "just hope that it can be nipped in the"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "bud and that we don't see something as"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "devastating play out in in Iran as we"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "saw in Syria."}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": ">> Yeah, it's I mean it's unbelievable when"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "you see what's happening right now. Um"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": ">> it's almost but it's a hard place for"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "journalists to be because we can see the"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "sources of these numbers. The National"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "Endowment, come on. They're they're the"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "ones who started the war in Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "Victoria Nuland is currently an"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "ambassador. We cannot put any stock in"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "that. We can't put any stock into the"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "State Department run numbers or any"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "Washington-based group. And so we have"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "to wait. And so for the rest of us as"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "news consumers, when you see someone who"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "is repeating these lines, you need to"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "dig your heels in and say, \"I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "wait.\" That's all we can really do right"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": ">> Right. Always look at the source. As you"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "mentioned, a lot of those higher death"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "tolls have come from organizations"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "funded by the National Endowment for"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "Democracy and other US government funded"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "groups. We just did a report about that"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "at the Greyzone authored by Max"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Blumenthal, my husband and our colleague"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "Wyatt Reid. And then again beyond that"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "is if we are dealing with high death"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "toll, a high death toll, we have to ask"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "were were there actual violent exchanges"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "between militias and the military or the"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "police? because that is the situation"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "that appears to be uh growing now in the"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "streets is an actual uh civil strife"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "scenario. So if there are high death uh"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "eventually we are looking at high uh"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "death numbers we have to ask again where"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "did these guns where did the violence"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "come from and history seems to repeat"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "itself in that region and I think we"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "could guess where those guns would come"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "from."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> Well and we're hearing directly from the"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "Israelis the Israeli media covering it"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "and the United States media is not"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "covering it. The Israeli media is"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "telling us that MSAD is in Iran and"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "they've been arming not only I mean"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "they've been arming both sides. It's"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "like, \"Hey, you want a gun? You want a"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "gun? Hey, let's let's have some fun"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "here. Let's carry on. Let's create this"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "chaos right now. The CIA and MSAD"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "actively involved in this.\" I mean, why"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "do you think the US media is totally not"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "covering that part of the story, but the"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "Israeli media is? It it's an odd"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "question, but I guess it might have to"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "do with the fact that the Israelis feel"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "that they have nothing to hide and that"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "they can be more honest with their"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "population about their goals and how"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "they operate. I mean, look at how they"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "talk about the genocide in Gaza over the"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "past few years while the US was maybe"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "ignoring it or trying to find a nice way"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "to spin it. Israelis just speak in nasty"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "language where they they tell it like it"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "is, which is, you know, as an American,"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "I guess I appreciate it because we get"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "to hear the quiet part out loud in"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "Israeli media. And I think at this point"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "they're pretty proud of the fact that"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "they own us and that Netanyahu can come"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "here and tell our president how high to"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "jump."}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": ">> Yeah. One more thing I wanted to ask is"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "that the massive amounts of people who"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "were marching in the street, many of"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "them were peaceful this week in Tyrron"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "and the media spinning this as"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "anti-government propaganda or"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "anti-government protests. And then the"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "Guardian admits that these were actually"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "progovern marchers. And the way the"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "Guardian spun it was that the regime"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "sort of recruited people to march on its"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "behalf which is an"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "unwilling admission that those people"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "were marching for the government. So can"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "you tell us what is the temperature of"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "people who would march for the"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "government not necessarily because they"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "love everything about the government but"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "what I would surmise is that they want"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "sovereignty."}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "Exactly. They want sovereignty and"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "that's more important to them than any"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "of the issues the United States can"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "project on the scenario. But again, the"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "the initial economic demonstrations were"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "held by this class of people that"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "generally are progovernment. You're"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "talking about the working poor. That's"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "the base of the the"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "hardline or more principalist Islamic uh"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "state. It's only when you are dealing"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "with the upper class that you're getting"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "more liberal cosmopolitan people that"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "are connected to the outside that would"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "actually want to change the government."}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "Those weren't the people that were"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "initially in the streets and now the"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "people in the streets with the with the"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "guns and uh and that are actually"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "attacking um government buildings are a"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "different crowd altogether. So yes,"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "those initial demonstrations,"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "it's possible as as we know as Americans"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "to protest your government without"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "wanting to overthrow it. And so there"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "were people that were there protesting"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "for their specific issues or things that"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "they wanted to advocate for within their"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "own governmental framework or their own"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "societal framework. And then these"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "outside actors or paid actors came in"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "and destabilized the situation and again"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "now are going to fire upon the"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "government, try and get an exchange and"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "then try to get some energy behind a"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "foreign intervention in the country. And"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "so no matter what propaganda Americans"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "are get in the coming days, which could"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "be quite extreme, I just hope that we"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "can resist the urge to go in. But it"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "also looks as though according to US"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "media reports that Trump might want to"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "start bombing uh earlier rather than"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "later. So anything is possible at this"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "point like I said because Trump and"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "Netanyahu only have a small window. I"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "think Trump would like to wrap this up"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "before we get into the midterm political"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "season in the United States. So we only"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "have a few more weeks really before that"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "starts. Well, then just think about the"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "tens of thousands of Americans who were"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "at these military bases all throughout"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "the region. President Biden, you'll"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "recall, said it wasn't a matter of if"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "they would be killed and attacked. It's"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "a matter of when. So, he knows that"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "they're just being used as cannon fodder"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "right now. So, Americans sitting there"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "as sitting ducks getting ready to be"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "attacked. Who knows what hell will be"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "unleashed in the next few days. Anya"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "Parel, great coverage as always over at"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "the gray zone. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "joining us today and providing your"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "perspective. Great to see you."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:10", "text": ">> Always good to see you guys."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:11", "text": ">> Thanks, Anya."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:15", "text": ">> So funny to see like the chat room like"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "going back and forth because"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:20", "text": ">> you get the you absolutely get the the"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "the like the Fox News propagandists."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:27", "text": ">> No, absolutely. I like"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "your I would like to point out"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "terrorism. Okay."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:31", "text": ">> To anybody anybody that that feels that"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "way that's looking at this like well we"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "should step in. What is the success rate"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "of US intervention in regime change?"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": ">> Post World War II. When has it worked?"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:44", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": ">> Ukraine. How are they doing? We got"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "involved in that. Are they doing okay?"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": ">> Vietnam."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": ">> Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan,"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": ">> Syria, Libya, Yemen,"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:55", "text": ">> Libya."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:56", "text": ">> By the way, Gaddafi's daughter today"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "published a report. Did you see that?"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "No. And she said, she told the Iran, she"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "said, \"Don't uh it was like don't get in"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "bed with the wolf or you will be"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "killed.\" You know, don't do not do not"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "make a deal with the United States and"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "Israel. You will be you will be killed."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "You can't be trusted."}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": ">> But no, people who, you know, go on"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "online chat rooms, they know about the"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "Iranian impressia oppression and they"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "know exactly how to solve it."}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": ">> But that's I guess that's kind of what"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "I'm getting at is even if even if it's"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "true,"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": ">> us getting involved almost guarantees a"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "failure."}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "hurting them willingly for over a"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "decade."}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:28", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": ">> So like good like actual regime change"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "comes when the people get sick of it and"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "they cast off the people that are ruling"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "over them that will last."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> If we get involved then it just doesn't"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "because then we just taint it with all"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "of our like and actually we're going to"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "bring in Black Rockck to buy up all of"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "your properties and we're going to bring"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "you know it's like it just it's not"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "unconditional. It just works. I was"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "speaking to a source today in Tel Aviv"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "about this exact scenario and I said"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "what's going to happen is if they go in"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "they're going to have this you know this"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "CIA backed government of course and run"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "and run and what'll happen is they'll"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "hand over the keys the to the IMF and"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "the World Bank and that's exactly what"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "happened for the rebuilding process. I"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "mean look at Ukraine right now. Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "is it's sold off country to the IMF and"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "the World Bank. The West owns Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "This was all part of the plan, right? So"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "you have Black Rockck, you have all of"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "these multinationals that are in there"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "that own almost all of Ukraine now. So"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "this is the plan. This is what they want"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "for Iran,"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:24", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": ">> Well, then don't forget Iran is the"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "third largest uh uh oil um reserve,"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:32", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:34", "text": ">> Like a Venezuelan and something"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": ">> one of these these chats says, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "we're always involved.\" Yes, but there"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "is a way to be involved as a"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "non-interventionalist and just do"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "business as a business partner. I think"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "that's what the Trump administration has"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "laid out for Qatar. And so there is we"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "don't need to bomb them in order to do"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "business with them. There is a way to do"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "that. So pretending there's not the book"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "that Anya mentioned, The Art of"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "Sanctions by Richard Nephew, who put"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "sanctions on Iran under Obama in order"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "to pressure them against their nuclear"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "um program. It's demonic. You should"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "read it. I mean, he basically sat there"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "in his cushy little office ordering"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "Starbucks while talking about starving"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "young children and making sure that, you"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "know, little kids with strep can't get"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "antibiotics and that would result in"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "regime change that they wanted. So, you"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "cannot pretend that we haven't been"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "purposely hurting them and then turn"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "around and be like, we'll save them."}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "That's we're the right people. This is"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "the right How can you say that? Only a"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "stupid person, an unstudied person would"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "say that. Well, fortunately almost the"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "majority of our chat room is on board"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "with us on this."}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": ">> It's studied and not stupid."}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": ">> Studied and not stupid. So, but um yeah,"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "I mean, and look, you got to deal with"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "right now, you're going to deal with a"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "lot of disinformation and propaganda."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "So, just uh be careful about that,"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": ">> right? That this this moral equivalence"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "equivalency people who are like, you"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "didn't speak up about Gaza, but you're"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "saying this. You're saying this, but you"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "said something about Gaza. This is a"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "whole new thing, and you have"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "uncorroborated numbers. So stand down"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "right now until you know and relieve"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "yourself of the idea that the United"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "States, which has been hurting this"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "country, is its savior. That's I think"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "where we should start."}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:18", "text": ">> All right, we got a lot more guests to"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "get to coming up here on the show. Um"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "but before we do that, let's tell you,"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "well, we're going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "Epstein's uh the Clintons evading the"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "Epstein um testimony. Um and we're also"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "going to talk about the FBI raiding a"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "reporter's home um at the Washington"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "Post. Plus, we're going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "Venezuela and its new technocratic"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "future with our friend Derek Bros is"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "going to be joining us in a moment, in a"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "few moments. But first,"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:42", "text": ">> first we want to tell you about American"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "financing because you may have seen,"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "hey, mortgage rates are as low as"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "they've been in about 18 months. So,"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "what does that mean? That means that for"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "you, if you're doing your finances like"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "the rest of us are in January, thinking,"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "\"What am I going to do for the rest of"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "the year to not continue to go into the"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "red because everything is so expensive?\""}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "You might be living on your credit"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "cards. Well, did you know that you can"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "tap into the equity in your home and"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "start building wealth rather than"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "building debt? And Equity F uh e I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "sorry, American Financing can tell you"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "exactly how to do that. So, if you call"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "them at 86689-8434,"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "they'll pick up the phone. They will"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "have a mortgage-based salary consultant"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "who can look at your finances and teach"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "you what this means. And then you decide"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "for yourself whether or not it's"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "prudent. Of course, you know, it's not"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "prudent to live on credit cards, leave"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "an asset untapped, not leverage what"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "you've got, and just continue to get"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "into the red. You know that. But how do"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "you fix it when you have an asset"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "sitting there? That's why you might need"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "experts to help you, and American"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "Financing can do just that. They can"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "save the average customer $800 a month."}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "That's like a $10,000 a year raise. You"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "don't even have to change jobs. There"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "are no upfront fees, no obligations."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "Again, a lot of times with financial"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "tricks like this, just learn it. Once"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "you learn it, you'll feel more"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "comfortable. You won't be scared. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "you know, the bank commercials, they"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "really scare you. Like, put your money"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "in savings, never touch it, and then you"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "get a boat when you retire. Like, that's"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "not the American dream. The American"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "dream is to live it right now. So, let"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "them teach you."}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "americanfancing.net/redacted."}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "One more time, that's"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "americanfing.net/redacted."}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "Well, Bill and Hillary Clinton both did"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "not show up for their congressional"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "testimony. They were set to testify in"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "front of the House Oversight Committee."}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "It's worth remembering that both of them"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "were issued subpoenas last year and the"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "subpoenas were voted on in a bipartisan"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "manner. That means we can't just"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "categorize this as Republicans are after"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "Democrats. And in fact, Republicans were"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "on the list of subpoena. Bill Bar comes"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "to mind. Uh, Democrats voted for this,"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "too. And now the date arrived. The chair"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "was empty. Here's a picture that was um"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "put up by the House Oversight Committee,"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "William J. Clinton, former President of"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "the United States. Empty chair. Now,"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "here is Representative James Comr,"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "confirming that now that they have both"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "not showed up, they do intend to hold"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "both Clintons in contempt of Congress."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "watch."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:28", "text": ">> We're going to hold both Clintons in"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "criminal contempt of Congress. We"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "believe that uh because this subpoena"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "was issued in a bipartisan fashion. The"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "Democrats uh acted the day that the"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "subpoenas were voted on in the"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "subcommittee like they wanted the"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "Clintons to come uh because they they at"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "that time, if you go back, they were"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "wanting me to subpoena the estate, which"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "I did. We subpoenaed the estate and got"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "all the documents, everything. That was"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "what the victims asked. That's what the"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "Democrats asked. I think that's what the"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "American people wanted. We subpoenaed"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "the state. Got 100% of the documents. I"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "have subpoenaed the Department of"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "Justice and Pam Bondi for the documents"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "which they are producing. Now, we don't"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "like the the speed. We all wish the"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "documents would come in quicker, but"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "we've gotten tens of thousands of pages"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "of documents from the Department of"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "Justice. And remember, they made a big"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "document drop."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": ">> Let's go ahead and pause here. He later"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "says he's going to continue to pursue"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "them. He also says he intends to depose"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "Gain Maxwell. So, we'll have something."}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "I think here's Cong uh Representative"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "Tim Burchett. And he is just beside"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "himself, not only for what happened, but"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "how the press would not allow him to"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "continue to pro to prod this issue even"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "further. Watch him walking out of"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "Congress today in utter despair. Hey"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "everybody, Tim Burchett just left a um"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "we're trying to they subpoenaed Bill and"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "Hillary Clinton on the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "situation. Of course, they no showed. Um"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "you know, my buddy Steve Bannon and"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "Peter Navara"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "didn't show up and they got sent to"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "prison. That's a double standard. And"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "I'll tell you the bigger double standard"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "is when I mentioned that in the press"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "conference. I wish we'd had it on film,"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "but the press just put their cameras"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "down immediately when I said that. I"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "looked across the front row, three or"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "four of them, right? Like that. It's um"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "it's these cards are very much stacked"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "against us and justice. And the"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "Clintons, of course, they thumb their"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "nose at Justice because they're allowed"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "to. They've been allowed to since they"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "were in Arkansas, and they're going to"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "continue to do it. And it's um it's"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "really a shame that that's the the"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "pinnacle of success for the Democrat"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "party really is that bunch. But that's"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "what we're dealing with. Um and of"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "course they had a paid agitator out"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "there yelling at us during this thing"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "and uh during the press conference and"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "just pathetic really. But that's where"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "the left is right now. Thank y'all for"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "sending me here."}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:05", "text": ">> All right. So, what do we want to learn"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "from the Clintons? I mean, obviously,"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "they don't have to be honest. We would"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "hope that they would, but we know that"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "the Clintons were close friends with"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "Epstein. We know that Bill Clinton was"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "on the plane several times and at the"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "island. We don't have proof that the"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "Clinton Justice Department ignored"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "Epstein, but it would be really weird if"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "he wasn't on their radar, and we would"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "like very much to know what the"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "government did to suppress any"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "investigation of his crimes before the"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "Bush administration when he finally did"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "get on their radar. So, what's going to"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "happen, Clayton? What I mean, let's sort"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "of if we were if it were just us normies"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "who ignored a congressional subpoena,"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "bad news."}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "Yeah, we'd be locked up, of course. But"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "of course, they'll, you know, slick"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "Willy, right? I mean, that's why he gets"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "the name Slick Willie, of course,"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "because he will evade this. There will"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "of course be some sort of precedent uh"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "the presidential immunity of But where"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "does Hillary Clinton come down on that?"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "As you know, does she get any of Slick"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "Willy's oil uh for being um for, you"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "know, any sort of presidential immunity?"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "I don't know. But, you know, the other"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "day it was interesting to think about"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "Dan Bonino, what he said before he"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "became uh V uh FBI Dan Bonino. You know,"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "he said he had on very good authority"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "from someone with impeccable impeccable"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "credentials."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "That he was on a flight with Bill"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. And the"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "things that he saw on that flight were"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "very weird, very off, very troubling."}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "Um, if only you became an FBI agent"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "where you could have investigated that"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "and gotten information about that. So,"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "will we learn more about this? I don't"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": ">> Okay. I mean, let's let's just go on go"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "through what is supposed to happen if"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "you ignore a subpoena. You can be"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "compelled to testify. You can face"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "fines. You can face criminal contempt"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "and even jail time. That could happen."}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "What are the tools at the dispo at the"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "disposal of the Clintons that could make"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "that not happen? I don't know. Is it"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "just the will of Congress? I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "you I mean, it's pretty impotent"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "Congress right now. We have just these"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "few"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": ">> ver going to keep going with this gross"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "analogy. Uh so, yeah, we'll have to see"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "what happens. History suggests that none"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "of those major consequences will come to"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "the Clintons, but then what are we going"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "to forget it? Are we gonna what do you"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "know? It's very frustrating."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:33", "text": ">> Yeah, it is."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:34", "text": ">> I'm frustrated."}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:36", "text": ">> All right. Well, we're going to talk"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "legal stuff with our friend Viva Fry in"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "just a moment about the FBI raiding a"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "reporter's home for the Washington Post."}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "I can't believe like we're we're"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "actually defending the Washington Post,"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "but of course, we're defending"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "journalism. I mean, not that real"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "journalism actually happens at the"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "Washington Post. It is, of course, an"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "extension of the CIA, but nevertheless,"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "like the FBI went raided the home of a"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "reporter reporter, took her phone and"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "other things. Um, what the hell's going"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "on? This is United States of America,"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "not North Korea. Last last time I"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "checked, we're going to talk with Viva"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "about that in just a moment. But first,"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "we love our dogs like family. I know I"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "do. And Grover is no different. He's our"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "dog. That's that's that's my boy as a"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "puppy. And there he is as a grown man."}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "So, he's doing great, honestly. But I"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "know a lot of you probably notice little"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "things with your dog that you just kind"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "of brush off, like, \"Hey, why are they"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "licking their paws a lot lately?"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "scratching more than usual, shaking"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "their head, dealing with random redness."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "Here's the deal. Those aren't just"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "quirks. They could actually be signs of"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "allergies, and allergies often flare up"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "when bad bacteria takes over the gut."}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "Because about 90% of your dog's immune"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "system lives there. That's why we keep"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "Better Wild than their allergy relief"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "soft chews on hand. And they're designed"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "to support your pet's allergy defense"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "system by strengthening digestion. And"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "they're the first and only chews with"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "Ancestral Advantage Wolf probiotics"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "derived from your dog's mighty ancestor,"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "the wolf, to help restore a healthy"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "balance of good bacteria in the gut."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "They also include L sakai, that's a"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "postbiotic from kimchi, which has been"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "clinically proven to ease itchiness,"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "redness in just 2 months with daily use,"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "plus colostrum and salmon oil to support"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "immune function, skin, and fur. Grover"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "loves the flavor. Right now, Better Wild"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "is offering our listeners up to 40% off"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "your order at better wild.com/redacted."}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "That's better wild.com/redacted"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "for up to 40% off."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "Well, well, further evidence the United"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "States Constitution is being thrown out."}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "The FBI uh executed a search warrant on"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "a Washington Post reporter's home,"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "reporter Hana uh Nathansson Nathansson's"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "home on Wednesday as part of a probe"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "into a government contractor. Um,"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "according to reports, they say, accused"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "of illegally retaining classified"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "government materials. Uh Nathansson was"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "at her Virginia home at the time of the"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "search according to this report and I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "reading from the screen and a warrant"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "stated law enforcement was investigating"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "Aurelo Perez Lugones, a system"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "administrator in Maryland who was a top"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "secret security clearance and has been"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "accused of accessing and taking home"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "classified intelligence reports that"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "were found in his lunchbox and in his"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "basement. The Post reported citing the"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "FBI affidavit. Nathansson covers the"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "quote the Trump administration's"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "reshaping of the government and its"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "effects end quote. That's in her ex bio."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "Her home and her devices were searched"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "and Nathansson told her employer, the"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "Washington Post, that a phone and a"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "Garmin watch were also taken, seized."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "All right, so what the hell is going on"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "here? Don't we have case law and"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "precedent for this? But maybe not. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "it's all being thrown out. Viva Fry,"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "host of the great show Viva Fry Show,"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "over on uh Rumble, our fellow Rumbler"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "right before our show, by the way. Uh"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "Viva, great to see you. Welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "show. Great to see you again."}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:04", "text": ">> Thank you very much for having me. It's"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "interesting. I was looking into this as"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "well because it's one of those stories"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "where you have to check your internal"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "biases. I, you know, I believe the"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "Washington Compost is a propagandist"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "outlet,"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:15", "text": ">> right? does mean that I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "support what I might otherwise find"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "objectionable if it were carried out on"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "someone who I consider to be an"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "ideological or political ally. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "know, the precedent is the interesting"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "thing. I I was quering as to whether or"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "not New York Times versus the US, the"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "Pentagon Papers, you know, could find"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "application here. And I've picked the"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "big brain of Robert Barnes, uh, you"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "know, we do our show, we have our local"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "community as well. and he's like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "you know, the New York Times that that"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "was a decision that said you can't"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "prevent publication, but not that, you"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "know, the journalists are off limits if"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "they in fact solicit or participate in"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "illegal activities to obtain or possess"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "classified information.\" And, you know,"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "the other precedent that was set also"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "back in Trump's first term was going"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "after Julian Assange on, you know,"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "something similar. They're not yet going"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "after this journalist. They're just"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "raiding and seizing it. It's an"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "interesting predicament because you make"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "the joke that it's sort of an extension"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "of the CIA, the Washington Post, and"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "it's sort of a deep state ally."}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "We're not yet sure exactly what the"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "nature of the documents are. I think"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "from what I understand now, at least"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "from what the aggregate knowledge is, is"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "that this was information pertaining to"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "a foreign country that has not yet been"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "identified. And that might lead people"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "to reflexively think, oh, this is what"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "happens if you leak information that"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "relates to say Israel for example or"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "maybe Ukraine for example because"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "apparently it related to from what I"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "understand the information is going to"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "change defense issues um you know"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "related to a foreign country. So you"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "just got to wonder what the heck is"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "going on. If they're going after the"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "target who is the leaker, why do they"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "need to go raid a journalist and seize"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "um information that might reveal sources"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "and other information? Time will tell."}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "Unfortunately, it looks like the"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "president might be there under the"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "Assange prosecution that you can do this"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "to journalists if they in fact"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "participate in soliciting or otherwise"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "illegal criminal activity to obtain"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "classified information, but the details"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "thus far are sort of thin. We don't yet"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "have all of the information."}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:13", "text": ">> Well, also, you know, you bring up a"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "great point about Assange, but of"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "course, Assange was Australian, an"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "Australian citizen, not a United States"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "citizen. Um, so"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:23", "text": ">> and and who who never stepped foot in"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "the US to do what they alleged they did."}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "And at the time some of us took issue"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "with it. Like this seems to be a"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "weaponizing of legislation or rarely"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "used laws to go after people who are not"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "actually participating in soliciting um"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "classified information, but they are the"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "ones publishing it. And so you know, we"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "took issue with it with with Assange."}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "Some people thought it was a righteous"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "prosecution and Assange was a traitor."}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "So it's a thorny issue, but yeah, that's"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "a material difference. The only thing is"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "here going after a Washington Post"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "journalist if only to raid and seize"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "some items that have that might have"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "more information that what is necessary"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "for them to get based on their alleged"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "target that being the actual leaker"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "himself."}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": ">> Right. I mean you you wonder if there's"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "I to me this is devastating for the"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "freedom of the press in the United"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "States because as Glenn Greenwald or any"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "other great journalist would tell you I"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "mean they rely on these types of"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "informants. They rely on these types of"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "of leakers um providing them with"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "documents to actually be able to tell"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "the story and to hold government"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "accountable. That's the that's the power"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "of the press. So for the for you're"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "going to sort of send a shock wave of"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "fear through newsrooms"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "from to stop or prevent them from really"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "doing journalism."}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:39", "text": ">> Well, that that some cynic might say"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "that would be the feature, not the bug."}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "um and others can imagine of how this"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "can be weaponized against people who"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "might be political um adversaries or"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "ideological adversaries to the current"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "administration above and beyond the"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "Washington Post. I mean that that goes"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "without saying, but you know, you have"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "other journalists out there who have"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "caught the eye of the Department of"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "Justice and not sure how familiar you"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "are with Steve Baker, but"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:06", "text": ">> Steve Baker and his sources within the"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "FBI and giving him information that,"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:09", "text": ">> you know, this this DOJ might not like"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "coming out."}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": ">> This is beyond a shot over the bow of of"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "the Bakers of the world. This is a"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "warning to not just the leakers, but any"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "journalist who would entertain,"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "you know, fratonizing with who might be"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "bonafide leakers. And it's not to say"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "that this journalist might have crossed"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "the line. And, you know, we'll wait for"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "those details to come out as well."}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": ">> It's not to say the journalist benefit"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "from immunity from soliciting or"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "participating in illegal activity. But"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "absolutely this is you know you know"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "maybe playing favoritism to whatever"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "that foreign country number one is as"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "alleged in the uh in the affidavit maybe"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "everybody could you be specific then so"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "what where would a reporter then cross"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "the line and we don't know to your point"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "we still don't know the details"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": ">> but well"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:59", "text": ">> given given that protection of the New"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "York uh of the United States versus uh"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:02", "text": ">> the New York Times"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:03", "text": ">> the New York Times the Pentagon papers"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "you know the prior restraint said that"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "you can't prevent publication. So, from"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "what I understand, it was sort of silent"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "on whether or not you could prosecute"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "afterwards. Okay? So, good, you can"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "publish the story. We can't prevent you"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "from publishing it, but that doesn't"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "mean you're immune from prosecution or"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "or having participated in criminal"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "activity. Generally speaking, my"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "understanding is that, you know, you"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "could publish the fruits of what was a"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "leak, but you can't participate in"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "soliciting the leak or participate in"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "stealing the classified information or"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "uh inappropriately appropriating that"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "classified information. That's what they"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "alleged Assange did, which I thought was"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "a stretch even based on the facts at the"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "time, but that's how they got around it."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "So, you know, there could be a certain"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "element of active participation of a"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "journalist who may no longer be a"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "journalist, but might actually be a spy,"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "might actually be someone that falls"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "within the Espionage Act, and we don't"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "know what those facts are right now. The"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "journalist hasn't been charged. It's"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "just a question of what was alleged in"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "that in that affidavit to allow or the"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "warrants to allow for searching and"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "seizing of what is recognized as"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "journalistic uh materials even if we"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "don't think that the Washington Post are"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "journalists but more you know activists."}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": ">> So how would we how would you define"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "soliciting? So if you're this reporter"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "what would fall under that category? She"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "is reaching out to this classifi this"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:19", "text": ">> you know like encouraging aiding and"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "abetting. I mean, that's how I would go"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "from what I I've also read some stuff"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "which I can't nobody can believe"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "whatever they read right now, but"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "apparently she was on Reddit maybe or"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "were actively soliciting people to"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "steal. But, you know, beyond having your"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "your DMs open and saying, \"Okay, guys,"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "if you've got any intel, come to me.\""}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "You James O'Keefe and Project Veritas"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "does it as well. And oddly enough, you"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "know, the fact that this comes a day"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "after James O'Keefe's expose, which is"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "embarrassing to say the least to"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": ">> that they have Biden holdovers who are"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "activists and and and not in line with"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "the agenda. Um, you know, are they going"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "to go after the James O'Keefe now for"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "soliciting that? Are these undercover"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "cameras going to be deemed to be uh, you"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "know, soliciting or trickery or or or"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "somehow violating the law so that it"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "scares this type of expose journalism"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "from James O'Keefe? But, you know, we'll"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "see what the details are. I've I've"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "heard some stories that this person"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "might have known what they were doing"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "was wrong. And, you know, you're you at"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "some point you're no longer a reporter,"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "but you're a participant. Uh, we'll see."}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "You can you could conceptually imagine"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "where that line is. And and if this if"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "this person crossed it,"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": ">> so be it. But, you know, you want to be"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "reluctant to empowering the government"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "to go and search, seize, and presumably"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "explore what's in journalistic materials"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "of, you know, journalists. Put it in"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "quotes. Um, Philip on our team has a"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "question for you. Go ahead, Philip."}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": ">> Yeah, so it really pertains to the to"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "the warrant itself and the signing off"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "because this is always something that"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "any anytime something like this that see"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "like presumably seems kind of shady, it"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "it somebody signed off on this warrant."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "Do you know like like for for a case"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "like this with the FBI, what what judge"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "would they be going before that would be"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "signing off on this? Because I mean that"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "either that either makes it shady or"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "gives it credentials because somebody"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "signed off on this warrant and do you"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "know who that would be like in a case"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "like this?"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:08", "text": ">> I I it was the question that you know"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "Robert Barnes and I were talking about"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "this actually before we went live and"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "you know the question was what"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "jurisdictions is this and from what I"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "understand it's Virginia and so that is"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "the question as to who is if there's"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "corruption or that's how serious it is"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "that even uh you know an anti-Trump"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "judge would sign off on this. From what"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "I understand, I haven't seen the"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "documents yet, and I don't know that"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "they're public yet. In fact, I'm fairly"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "certain they're not. But this was"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "obtained in Virginia, which, you know,"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "might be a little bit less surprising if"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "it were obtained in DC where you have"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "95% who are anti-Trump. Why would they"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "sign off on a search warrant for a"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "Washington Post journalist? Not yet"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "knowing what the foreign country is. You"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "could understand there might be there's"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "competing levels of corruption or, you"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "know, it's justice in this case and we"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "don't know it yet. But look, You you"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "have to be weary whether you love the"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "Washington Post or hate them and whether"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "you love Donald Trump or hate him. uh"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "you have to be weary of empowering a"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "department of justice to it is"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "intimidating period regardless for any"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "any whistleblower who knows that they"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "will not necessarily be kept an"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "anonymous source in the hands of the"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "journalists and for any journalist who"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "is actually doing real journalism like"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "the Glenn Greenwalls of the world like"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "the Steve Bers of the world where they"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "say you may not be safe and once we get"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "your stuff you know L Lord help us we"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "might find other stuff that might"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "incriminate you and we'll see how but"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "that's where it is right now I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "eagerly awaiting more information and to"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "see the documents and what's actually"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "alleged. Uh the the leaker himself is in"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "custody and it sounds like at least for"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "now he's being depicted as a lone wolf."}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "So it's not even clear that it had"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "anything to do with this journalist"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "stated uh you know objective of keeping"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "the administration in line with who they"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "fire and and hire etc. But um you it's"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "it's early in the stage of the factual"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "elements of this, but you know, proceed"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "with caution because it's not because"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "you hate the Washington Post that you"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "should ratify this and it's not cuz you"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "love Donald Trump that you should say a"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "Department of Justice should have these"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "powers."}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "You got to imagine there's a a phone"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "call coming from uh CIA friendly Jeff"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "Bezos who owns the Washington Post. It's"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "like, \"Hey, we gave you access to our"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "paper. You know, we're a we're a back"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "channel to the CIA right here. Come on."}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "Could you have not maybe you could make"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "this thing go away? This is one of our"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "reporters here."}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:21", "text": ">> It's curious that there wasn't"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "collaboration in advance of this. But"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "then you might have other interests who"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "say depending on what this foreign"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "nation was, if you're going to make us"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "look bad, you know, in in in Europe or"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "if you're going to make us look bad in"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "the Middle East, this is what's going to"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "happen to journalists who cross that"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "line. So we we'll help you. Just don't,"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "you know, don't don't piss off the wrong"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "countries and don't make us look bad"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "under the wrong circumstances."}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:43", "text": ">> Well, journalism under attack. Viva Fry,"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "great to see you as always. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "Does a great show, by the way. Check him"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "out. He comes on. Their show comes uh he"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "comes on right before our show, so check"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "him out on Rumble. Um does a great job,"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "Viva. Always great to see you, my"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "friend. Thank you."}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:53", "text": ">> Thank you very much. Great to see you,"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "too. Happy New Year, by the way."}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:57", "text": ">> Happy New Year to you as well. Thank you"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "and keep up the great work."}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": ">> All right. Um we've got more news to get"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "to. We're going to talk about Venezuela,"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "um and the technocratic takeover of that"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "country. You know, everyone's talking"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "about, oh, is it oil? Is it"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "drugs? Madura was a drug kingpin. Come"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "on. No, it wasn't. Um, our next guest"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "has written a great new piece at the"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "American Vagabond. Um, and take a look."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "Here's the article and details"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "specifically what has unfolded inside of"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "Venezuela. And here it is. The Venezuela"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "technocracy connection. The US bombing"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "of Venezuela and capture of Nicholas"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "Maduro cannot be rationally explained as"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "a drug enforcement operation or even"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "solely about oil."}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "um or even solely about recovering oil."}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "The bigger picture is technocracy. Our"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "next guest is Derek Bros, one of the"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "great journalists in the world, great"}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "investigative journalist who's been"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "looking at this closely, has been cover"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "been covering this technocratic"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "takeover. Derek, great to see you. You"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "know, I love your approach because so"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "many people want to get in the weeds on"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "all of this. You know, it's like, oh,"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "was the trend aragua was the cartel"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "deololis, you know, it's all the it was"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "this and that. and you really take a"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "much broader look here, a much bigger"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "look in showing us maybe the the the"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "truth that's unfolding in Venezuela."}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "Great to see you."}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "Oh, it sounds like you're muted there,"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "Derek."}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "Nope, I don't hear you yet."}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "So, let me just while while Derek is"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "getting his audio here, I just want to"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "read through just a little bit of"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "Derek's article here because in the"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "early morning hours of January 3rd,"}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "2026, United States military launched"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "military strikes on Venezuela and"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "captured Maduro and his wife. Maduro and"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "Flores have since been transported to"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "New York. Charges related to gun crimes,"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "cocaine, trafficking. The move"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:11:59", "text": ">> I think I'm good now."}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:00", "text": ">> Oh, you're good. Okay. I was just going"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "to get a little backtory here, but not"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "to steal your thunder here. So good to"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "see you. Um, so the technocratic"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "connection in Venezuela, walk us through"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "what you uncovered."}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": ">> Yeah, so as you said, Clayton, at the"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:18", "text": "beginning that I don't think that the"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "claims of the drug charges really stack"}, {"start": "01:12:18", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "up. And we're already seeing that with"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "the DOJ not even including the claim"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "that um, Maduro is the head of the"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "cartel of the Suns in their indictment."}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:29", "text": "And there are some oil connections that"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "I do cover in my article. Like I thought"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "it was interesting that you start to"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "look at some of the oil companies that"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "stand to benefit from the US going into"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "Venezuela if they do in in fact invest"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "and there's connections to Black Rockck,"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "you know, having about 1/5if or 1/4 of"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "the ownership of some of these"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:48", "text": "companies. But I do think the bigger"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "picture is the technocratic picture. And"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "um we've talked about this in past shows"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "and I know you've covered it as well,"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "but for those who are unfamiliar just"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "really briefly, technocracy was a"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "movement that was very popular in the"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "United States and Canada in the 1930s,"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "1940s up until about the 1950s. And it"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "is a movement that specifically said"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "they wanted to get rid of the political"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "class, get rid of the business class,"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "and wanted to have the engineers and the"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "experts running society. Essentially,"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "there would be no more voting, no"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "democracy, anything like that. you would"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "get these so-called experts and"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "engineers to run the machines as they"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "used to say. I think today we would"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "probably consider that to be AI and a"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "lot of the technology we have today and"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "that these experts would micromanage all"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:29", "text": "of society. They would allocate"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "resources. Uh they promised it would be"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "utopia. They also did mention that it"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "would involve the loss of privacy and"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "some personal freedoms and things like"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "that. But that technocratic movement"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "when it was growing, they had this"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "vision of what they called the technate,"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "the North American technate, how they"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "wanted to control the North American"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "continent. They specifically say as far"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "up as Greenland, all of Canada, all of"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "the US and Mexico and Panama and Central"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "parts of Central America going all the"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "way down to Eastern Colombia and to"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "large portions of Venezuela. And as my"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "article there shows, you can see the"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "original Technocrats map that they"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "released in 1940 clearly showing this"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "effort to control the entire continent."}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "And it's similar to different um"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "concepts people may have seen over the"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "years, especially if you've been in this"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "research talk of say the North American"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "Union, things like that. But what I"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "think is unique and the reason this"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "matters, you know, okay, it's a movement"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "from 100 years ago. How is that relevant"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "to 2026 and what Trump is doing now? I"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "think it's relevant because not only is"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "Trump surrounded by the various"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "technocrats that I know you've covered"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "on the show such as Peter Teal,"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "obviously Elon Musk, Elon Musk's"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "grandfather Joshua Helman was actually"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "involved in the technocracy movement in"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "Canada was uh one of the directors of"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "technocracy incorporated. And so you"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "have those sort of connections, but also"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "you have this uh aid, this adviser to"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "Trump, Steven Miller. He's been one of"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "the biggest advocates for saying the US"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "is not only going to go into Venezuela,"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "but into Greenland. and you have his"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "wife Katie Miller talking about going to"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "Greenland. When you start to stack these"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "things up and look at the original"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "technocrats plans and look at the people"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "who are surrounding Trump and you can"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "see that they are following this plan to"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:09", "text": "a tea. And so yes, it is about resources"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "like oil and there's other minerals and"}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "and things like that. But I think it's"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "more than that. that they are trying to"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "implement this plan that people"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "connected to the trilateral commission"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "now deceased to big Brzinski David"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "Rockefeller the folks who originally"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "founded the trilateral commission in the"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "1970s they were simply picking up this"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "plan from the original technocracy"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "movement and now in the 2020s Trump"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "seems to Trump and his team and people"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "around him seem to be following that"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "same plan from the original technocracy"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "movement"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:40", "text": ">> so that's really the the highle look at"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "this technate it's crazy to think about"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "I mean just like look at the app here. I"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "mean, they literally have a map from the"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "1940s as you point out, the Technate of"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "America. And I mean, it's right there."}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "Like, again, listen to what they say and"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "then watch what they do. And all of"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "these pieces are coming together. You"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "got the Greenland piece of this. You got"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "Venezuela. You've got, of course, the"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "pushing out of China and Russia in the"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "Western Hemisphere, or at least the"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "appearance of that anyway. Um, how does"}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "the maybe you can talk about some of the"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "machinery behind the scenes? Like how"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "does this come to fruition from a"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "technocracy perspective? Are we talking"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "digital tracking? Um, one sort of I'm"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "almost picturing like the European Union"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "in a way but without"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:23", "text": ">> it's very similar."}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:24", "text": ">> Is it Washington DC is in charge"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:26", "text": ">> instead of"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": ">> uh in the case in the case of the the"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "the Western Hemisphere um the North"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "American technate it probably will will"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "be and would be the United States in um"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "in charge of that at least the that's"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "the way the original technocrats"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "envisioned it. And in their own writing"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "they say the technate will encompass the"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "entire North American continent from"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "Panama to the North Pole because the"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "natural resources and the natural"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "boundary of this area make it an"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "independent self-sustaining geographical"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "unit. So they did envision that the US"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "would probably be the the the strong"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "power here and they wanted to control"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "the entire continent and very similar"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "they also imagine there would be other"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "what they call techmates in different"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "parts of the world similar to what we"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "see with the European Union. I mentioned"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "the North American Union and they make"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "it clear that this is about resources in"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "one level that they want the resources"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "of Panama which I think we also have to"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "put in the context that last year 2025"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "Larry Frink head of Black Rockck he"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "bought two ports in the Panama Canal and"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "it it was reported numerous places that"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "he consulted with Trump before doing"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "that. Um, you also of course the I"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "mentioned that there there is mention of"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "Colombia and Venezuela specifically in"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:34", "text": "the technocrats plans and recently Trump"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "of course is starting to threaten the"}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "president of Colombia. Now again he's"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "saying this is about drugs but he's you"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "know putting him in on notice like he's"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "doing with Iran and elsewhere that the"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "the US will go in there if they want to."}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "I I find that to be coincidental that"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "that sort of also aligns with the"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "technocrats plans and even more"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "specifically to the Greenland aspect of"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "it. In 1940 in the technocracy magazine,"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "the uh technocrats specifically mention"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "Greenland and he says quote the"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "acquisition of these territories should"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "be a mandatory part of the program of"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "continental defense for immediate"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "achievement and this is the important"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "part either by purchase, negotiation or"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "the force of arms. So as far back as"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "1940, the technocrats were saying like"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "if it comes back, if it comes down to"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "military conquest, then so be it. It"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:25", "text": "must be done because this is what needs"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "to take place in order for their plan of"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "essentially a world government, what"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "many of us would call a new world order."}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "I think that it we haven't always paid"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "attention to the technocracy movie and"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "the movement and the context of the new"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "world order, but it's essentially the"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "same thing by another name. They want to"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "control and dominate as much of the"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "world for resources. like you mentioned,"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "there's some strategic reasons. You"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "know, we know that they're trying to"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "dominate, the US is trying to dominate"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "more of the Western Hemisphere. Trump's"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "calling it the Donro doctrine, things"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "like that. But I think ultimately it"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "does come back to that technocratic"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "vision. And in their words, they"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:58", "text": "describe a world without freedom of"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "speech, a world without personal"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "privacy, a world where the machines, or"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "again, I I think we'd be referring to"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "the AI, uh, facial recognition, social"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "credit scores, things like that, where"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "the AI, the machines are used to"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "allocate the perfect amount of resources"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "because, as with most tyrants, they sell"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "this as a utopia where people would have"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "energy credits, which sounds very"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "similar to carbon credits, and that"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "those energy credits would determine how"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "much you get of various resources or"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "products. down to the person. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "they they wanted this to be a highly"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "meticulous um highly engineered system."}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "That's why they thought the engineers"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "and the experts should be at the top"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "because they said, \"Well, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "business people, they don't know what"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "the heck they're doing. The politicians"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "don't know what they're doing. The"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "people are too stupid to know what's"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "good for them. We need the experts to"}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "micromanage all of society, and that"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "will then, in their words, and their"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "view lead us to some utopia.\""}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:50", "text": ">> You also quote, as you mentioned, Steven"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "Miller at the beginning when we started"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "talking. Um, I just want to put up a"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "quote here on the screen that you you"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "have in your article. We live, Miller"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "told uh Jake Tapper on CNN. Nobody's"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "going to fight the United States"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "militarily over the future of Greenland."}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "We live in a world in the real world,"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "Jake, that is governed by strength, that"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "is governed by force, that is governed"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "by power. These are the iron laws of the"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "world since the beginning of time. So,"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "you know, come hell or high water, no"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "one's going to mess with us to to to get"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "in the way of us taking Greenland. Um,"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "for sure. And so I guess that the real"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "question then is what about sovereignty?"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "Are we're talking about these Latin"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "American countries? What what Canada we"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "see the Alberta the Alberta freedom"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "movement that's been I mean people are"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "lined up um you know trying to basically"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "pushing for this referendum to to secede"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "from Canada. I guess there's obviously a"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "push to there's been a lot of push for"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "them to maybe join the United States oil"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "pipeline going right up through to"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "Alberta. Um so you'd be connected to"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "have that corridor there. So what"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "happens to sovereignty?"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:54", "text": ">> Yeah, I think that's a great question,"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "Clayton. And Steven Miller really gives"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "away the game right there. I mean, I've"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "been sort of reflecting on this recently"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "that on one hand in the past, I think"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "some of us might have felt like, well,"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "when you have when it comes to"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "politicians like Obama and others, they"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "they talk, they're well spoken,"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "constitutional attorney, people sort of"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "can they can be deceived by the mask and"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "not realize, you know, the the American"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "empire that's behind it. But in the case"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "of Trump and his recent actions and and"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "the saber rattling that's ongoing as we"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "speak here, it's like the mask has come"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "off the empire. Stephen Miller and"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "others are saying, \"Look, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "do whatever we want. We're going to take"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "Greenland if we want. We're going to do"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "it militarily. We're going to go into"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "Venezuela. We might go into Colombia. We"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "might go into Cuba. They're threatening"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "Mexico where I'm at right now.\" And I"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "think that again, on one hand, it feels"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "like, okay, great. The mask is off and"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "at least they're being real that they"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "believe rule of, you know, the rule of"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "the of the jungle and is is might is"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "right. and and that's kind of how it"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "always has been. It's just again there"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "was that veneer that people like Obama"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "and others tried to to maintain and have"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "this political legitimacy. But in fact,"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "it turns out it doesn't feel any better"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "whenever the mask comes off. In fact, it"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "feels even uglier. It's like, wow, this"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "is where we really are. You have these"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "people like Steven Miller feeling"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "perfectly, I guess, content and safe to"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "say on public television, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "do what we want. Nobody's going to stop"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "us. And as I point out in the article as"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "well, his wife, she posted on Twitter,"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "the map of Greenland with the American"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "colors over it and said soon. Um maybe"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "she knows something we don't know, but"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "they're clearly telegraphing that"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "they're going to come for Greenland. And"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "as I said, this fits perfectly in with"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "the technocrats plan. Another just"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "interesting detail that I found that"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "Katie Miller, Steven Miller's wife, she"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "was a an employee of the Doge um"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "experiment under Elon and then worked"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "with Elon directly before now she has a"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "podcast. But it's just you start to see"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "again the circles that these folks are"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "all running in. The technocrats either"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "advising Donald Trump, funding his"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "campaigns. Um we have at least 17 to 20"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "different uh acolytes of Peter Teal who"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "are in the Trump administration in"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "different departments. We have members"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "of the Bilderberg Group. Uh we have uh"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "members of the World Economic Forum,"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "Young Global Leaders. I pointed this out"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "in numerous articles in 2025. And I"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "think what we're seeing here with"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "Venezuela, with the threats to Greenland"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "and elsewhere, is really just showing"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "that um the same people who have been in"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "charge over the last decades, they're"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "still there. You know, there may be some"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "aberrations with Trump and his"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "unpredictableness, but for the most"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "part, the the same agendas we've been"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "opposing uh during Democratic regimes"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "and Republican regimes prior to Trump"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:27", "text": "continue in 2026"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:30", "text": ">> unabated. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Um take"}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "a look at this. Uh Derek, this was u a"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "short time ago in Caracus."}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "This is a large rally, a pro- Maduro"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "rally. Again, you're not going to see"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "this on Fox News, I don't think. Maybe"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "you will, but uh probably not going to"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:51", "text": "see this on the like MAGA influencer uh"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "social feeds, but what do you make of"}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "this? I mean, that tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "people coming out and with signs of"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "Maduro and and and posters of Maduro and"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "showing their support for him."}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:05", "text": ">> Yeah, I saw that video when you sent it"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "earlier. I haven't had a chance to, you"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "know, look into the finer details of"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "that one. But I will say that it is a"}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:13", "text": "fact for sure that there are people who"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "do support Maduro within Venezuela. It"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "is also a fact, of course, there are"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "people, Venezuelans, both in and out of"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "the country who do not support uh"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "Nicholas Maduro. And I think that that"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "just goes to the fact that like just"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "think about the United States for"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "example. We have people who are"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "adamantly for Donald Trump and"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "everything he does and they're going to"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "support him regardless. And then there"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "are other people who are adamantly"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "against him and are going to be opposed"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "to everything he does. And it's easy"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "for, let's say, a foreign country, if"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "they were from the outside looking in,"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "to spin any opposition to Trump as like,"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "look, he's unpopular that we should we"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "should intervene. And that's essentially"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "what the United States tries to do in"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "these other countries, whether it's"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "Iran, Venezuela, Mexico with Shan Bomb."}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "We talked about that recently that you"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "can take these different protests either"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "for or against the regime and you can"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "amplify that and say, \"Look, the people"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "clearly do not like the person in power."}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "we need to go intervene or you could"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "tell the opposite story. I think it's"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "it's just a sign that things are not as"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "black and white as uh the American media"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "may want people to believe as MAGA media"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "might want people to believe and that's"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "not an endorsement of Nicholas Maduro in"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "any way. You can just sit back and be"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "objective and say look some Venezuelans"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "do like him for whatever reason whether"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "you agree with those or not and there"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "are many Venezuelans who do oppose him"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "and and maybe um I think foolishly would"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:26", "text": "like the US to intervene. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "the same thing we're seeing here in"}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "Mexico that there are polls showing that"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "some Mexicans would support US"}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "intervention, which I think would be a"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "horrible mistake and I pray it does not"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "happen, but there are others who are"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "adamantly opposed to it. So, it's just"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "about how which lens you want to look"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "through and which stories the media"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "wants to amplify. And obviously, we know"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "that at the moment the story is the uh"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "Venezuelan people, the Iranian people,"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "uh the Cubans, the you know, the"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "Greenlanders, they all want the US's"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:55", "text": "help. They're begging for our help. they"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "want us to come, you know, save them,"}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "etc. That's the narrative that the Trump"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "administration wants to be out there."}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:02", "text": ">> Right now, I should point out that march"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "that we were just seeing there was a was"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "the great workers march or the large"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "workers march. Um, and you know, and as"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "what they're what they're calling for"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "and even what the local media was saying"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "there was the um was the free President"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "Maduro and the first lady or liberate uh"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "the president and the first lady. So, to"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "your point and that's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "seeing in Iran right now, right? if you"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "like can you actually talk about like"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "the the legitimate protests and why they"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "were upset about high inflation over the"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "past few weeks and then can you also"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "then have a conversation about MSADA and"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "the CIA infiltrating and actually"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "co-opting those protests and you know"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "it's not that's why these things work"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "right that's why these co-opting of"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "these types of protests by the CIA these"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "color revolutions MSAD otherwise that's"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "why it works because it looks like all"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "of these people are are upset and"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "They're attacking each other. January"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "6th, you have feds involved in creating"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "that, right? So, it's the reason they do"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "it is because it works. And these things"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "can all be true as you said. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "there's definitely people upset at the"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "Iranian government and upset about uh"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "inflation and other issues. And it"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:11", "text": "appears from some protests and things"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "we're seeing, which I mean, obviously AI"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "generated videos is a concern these days"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "and we have to be careful and skeptical"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "and not just, you know, go ahead and"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "repost something because it confirms"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "your biases. But it does seem to be true"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "that in that case in Iran as well, there"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "are people who do support the regime."}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "Again, we don't have to agree with their"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "reasoning. Um, just to recognize that"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "the situation is more complex on the"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "ground and and that's something that we"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:35", "text": "talked about uh recently in Mexico when"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "I was out here reporting. And yes, there"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "are people who oppose the current"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "president. There are people who who"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "gratefully, you know, are grateful for"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:44", "text": "her and support her. Both factions exist"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "and we have to be willing to kind of"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "look into these nuances. Look at these"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "bigger pictures like I'm trying to do"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:51", "text": "here in Venezuela with the technocracy"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "angle and ask who benefits from this."}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:56", "text": "Who stands to gain? Who stands to gain"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "from the US bombing intervening in Iran"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "and Venezuela and uh you know in Mexico"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "and Cuba and Colombia and all these"}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "other places. And I think unfortunately"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "we are going to see more of this. 2026"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "is just beginning and you know maybe"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "there's some level of saber rattling"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "that's just going on. just Trump talking"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "a big game like with Mexico. I thought"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "maybe some of this talk about we're"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "going to go into Mexico on land. It"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "could be sort of a bargaining chip for"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "the fact that this summer 2026 the US"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "Mexico Canada agreement is coming up for"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "uh renegotiation. And so maybe Trump is"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "doing some of this saber rattling as a"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "way to get a better position. There are"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "definitely more factors and angles than"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "we are typically shown in the corporate"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "media and even in the mainstream"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "alternative media. So, I definitely"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "appreciate you giving me a chance,"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "Clayton, to talk about this and bring in"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:44", "text": "the technocracy angle because I I do"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "think too many people are missing this"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "piece of the puzzle."}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:50", "text": ">> No, I you you blew me away with it and I"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "hadn't thought about it. Um, people are"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "talking about drugs and oil and other"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "things and archaeological dig sites that"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "are actually hidden there underground."}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "Um, there's a lot of stuff going on, but"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "I have not heard anyone talking about"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "the technocracy. And as you pointed out,"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "it's all written down like it's all part"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:08", "text": "of their plan and it has been um all of"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "these secret dark forces for a long long"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:12", "text": "time. So I encourage our our audience to"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "go over to the American vagabond and"}, {"start": "01:29:12", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "read Derek's great piece. It's eye"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "opening and that's why"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:19", "text": ">> I just got to say that like this is s"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "this this is the first I' I've ever"}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:21", "text": "heard of this and my my brain is just on"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "fire right now thinking about this"}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "because if you think like what was the"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "very first the very first beef Trump got"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "into was with Canada."}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:30", "text": ">> I remember at the time thinking like why"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "Canada? What the hell is going on? Then"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "you see that map and it's like, \"Oh, cuz"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "we need that.\" It's like immediately"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "like wasted no time going after Canada,"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "Greenland. Like I This is all like brand"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "new to me. I'm going to be checking out"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "this article here uh when we're done."}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> Well, and Stephen Miller, very very"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "smart, right? Very smart. Um and had"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "been sort of planning a lot of these"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "pieces for a long time. It seems many,"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "many years. I mean, he apparently even"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "wanted to be like be the second number"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "two in the White House basically going"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "back 15 years laying the groundwork on"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "all of this. So, you know, um you know,"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:05", "text": ">> he's definitely got some aspirations for"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "power for sure."}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it just reminds me of like"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "the plans that were in place from"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "neocons's Cheney and others well ahead"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "of what we saw on 9/11 and the Patriot"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "Act. Like the Patriot Act didn't just"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "come out of nowhere. it had been written"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "down and planned years earlier. And so"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "again, I come back to these plans where"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "these"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:32", "text": ">> these deep dark souls get together in"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "smoky rooms and have these, you know,"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "have these meetings and it it informs"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "everything that we're seeing today. So I"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "encourage people to go and read it."}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "Derek, thank you for being the tip of"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "the spear on this stuff. I really"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "appreciate it. Great work as usual."}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:43", "text": ">> Thank you, Clayton. I appreciate your"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:47", "text": ">> You bet. Thanks, Derek. Wow. I know."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "It's like,"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:52", "text": ">> yeah, that that just like blew my mind"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "completely. I'm like I cuz like you know"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "like I feel like I've spent the past"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "like few years trying to figure out like"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "you know cuz I always ask like what is"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "the end goal? What is the end goal like"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "with all of this? Like what is it you"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "want? And then just to see it be like,"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "\"Oh, well, they actually were have been"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "planning this since the 1930s and here"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "it is.\" And goes, you know, that just"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "every piece fits into that."}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:15", "text": ">> And it's all written out. Like it's all"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "written out. And by the way, and we also"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "came up with a map like here's the map"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "that we came up with back then. It's all"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "written out. It's all planned out."}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:25", "text": ">> And you know, and people can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "this, you know, it's old, but you know,"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "look at COVID, right? Right? I mean,"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "look at all of the p look at all of the"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "pieces that were coming in that were put"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "in place before COVID happened, right?"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "The meetings, the Fed meetings, all of"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "these things that were happening ahead"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:40", "text": "of time. All the groundwork that was"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "laid ahead of time."}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "Like, did you see, by the way, just side"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "note, did you see that like Project"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "Runway? I didn't even realize this, but"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "well before COVID even hit, anyone even"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "knew what it was or the normies before"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:56", "text": "us normies knew what it was. Uh, Project"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "Runway had like one of their models come"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "out dressed in like a headtotoe kind of"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "a thing and she had a mask on and they"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "called her like her stage name for this"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "like walking down on Project Runway was"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "COVID with a K and she had a full mask."}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "Like"}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:16", "text": ">> the the pre-programming is is crazy."}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "Anyway, um, all right, I'll take some of"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "your super chats here in a second, but"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "first, is your money actually working"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "for you just sitting there doing"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "nothing? If you've been parking cash in"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:29", "text": "a savings account, I mean, the US dollar"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "is teetering on destruction right now."}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "Um, it's not going to grow. Friend of"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "the show, Mike Adams, the health ranger"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "today, he's saying if you God, if I hope"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": "that you are paying attention to what's"}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:41", "text": "happening to the US dollar because it is"}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "it is coming. And right now, like money"}, {"start": "01:32:41", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "in a savings account is not moving the"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "needle. 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Um because there's so much pent-up"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "demand right now for real estate and"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "people moving because so many of these"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "families, they haven't been able to move"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "cuz interest rates have been so high."}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "They're like, \"We're going to just stay"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "in our starter home even though we've"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "got three kids and we don't have the"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "room for them. We're just going to stay"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "here. We're going to stay here and, you"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "know, until we can figure out these"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "interest rates and actually not have to"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "pay 50% of our take-home pay to actually"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "own a property.\" So now that interest"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "rates are the lowest they've been in 18"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "months, I think you're going to see"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "there's a lot of pent-up demand right"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "now for people to move. So I think"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "April, April is like usually April into"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "May is when most people list their"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "houses or start to move because the"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "school year is winding down. They want"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "to be moved in time for the school year"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "to start for the next year. And uh I"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "think could go one of two ways. I mean"}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "we could see an explosion or we could"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "see a huge regression. Um, I think"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "though with all of this pent-up demand"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "and these interest rates coming down,"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "um, as long as, uh, we don't end up in a"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "World War II situation,"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:13", "text": "um, I think you're going to see just a"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "crazy explosion. And if Trump actually"}, {"start": "01:36:13", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "does put this moratorium on like people"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "like Blackstone and these other big"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "institutional investors buying up all"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:23", "text": "these single family homes, if he really"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "does do that,"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "then you're going to see finally like"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "house prices, I think, drop a little"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "bit, come back down, and I think you're"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "going to see a flood a flood of activity"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "this spring. But we'll see. So we"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:39", "text": ">> he's going to ban Black Rockck Vanguard"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "in Black Street or whatever it's called"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "here. But hey, you can buy in Gaza and"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "Ukraine and"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:49", "text": ">> Well, to be clear, Black Stone is"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "different than Black Rock. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:53", "text": ">> I thought Oh, I thought Black Rock and"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "and Vanguard were the ones buying up all"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "the properties."}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:56", "text": ">> No, Black Stone."}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:36:57", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:36:59", "text": ">> yeah. Different. People get them,"}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "conflate them all the time, but Black"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "Stone is one of the the problem here,"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "I'll just tell you cuz I know real"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "estate very well. Blackstone and they go"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "and they buy up all these properties."}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "What it does is they'll just over bid"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "for properties because they don't care."}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "They don't want to get into a bidding"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "war with like some family that wants to"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "live there. So, let's say the house is"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "like listed for 300,000, right? Well,"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "that's kind of like the market. That's"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "the going market rate. Well, Blackstone"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "will just come in and be like, \"We're"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "not getting into a bidding war. 310,000,"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "320. We're not going to get into a"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "bidding war with a family, a young"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "family that wants to move into this"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "house."}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:36", "text": ">> Well, then the seller is gonna be"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "ecstatic."}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I mean, right. And that's"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:41", "text": "why you see a lot of institutional"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "builders, you know, building for these"}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "people as well. So, it's just like a"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:47", "text": ">> and then it's really driven up the"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "prices, right? So, now you're getting"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "these they're bidding and paying higher"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "for these properties and they shouldn't"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "be that high."}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "So, if Trump actually does this and"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "stops that from happening, that's why"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "Blackstone's"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "stock tanked last week on that news."}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "Dropped like, was it 6%?"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": ">> Zillow was doing that for a long time."}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "Is does Zillow still doing that or did"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "they kind of stop?"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:12", "text": ">> I don't know if Zillow's still doing"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "that. And Zillow, a lot of these people"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "got burned. Here's the problem. A lot of"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "these big institutional investors went"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "in and they thought, \"Oh, there's"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "nothing to it. they can just buy up all"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "these properties"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "and then we'll just get some faceless"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "like property management company to"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "handle it and they overbought and then"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "they couldn't find the property"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "management teams to like actually manage"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "it. So then you had a lot of and and"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "people just were getting frustrated. You"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "had a lot of properties that were"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "sitting in a lot of cities. They were"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "getting all sorts of fines because they"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "like like wouldn't mow their grass. So"}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "like Zillow bought up all these"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "properties. Red Fin, I think, bought up"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "a bunch of properties and they they they"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "didn't realize that, oh, we actually"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "need to renovate a lot of these"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "properties. So, they were trying to find"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "contractors and the contractors were"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "like, oh, you're Zillow that bought"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "this. Yeah, you know what? Normally,"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "we'd charge 20 grand to do this type of"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "a of a of a job. Well, I think it's 50"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "grand. So they were just getting flooded"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "with like gouging prices and a lot of"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "these contractors were just taking"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "advantage of these like faceless Zillow"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "and Redfin coming in and buying up a lot"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "of these properties and"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "they and then they they were actually"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "letting a lot of them sit there because"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "they couldn't find contractors to do the"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "work. So they bought this property that"}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "needed to be fixed up and it just sat"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "there and the city will give you fines"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "and they'll start sending you fines. You"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "got to cut the grass. You have you have"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "windows that are cracked. You have"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "things. Zillow, I don't care that you're"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "Zillow. You got to start paying for this"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "stuff and they'll start getting all"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "sorts of city fines and they just start"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "stacking up and stacking up and stacking"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "up and then pretty soon the city will"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "actually like take the property back,"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "you know, um put a lean on the property"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "and know they're getting leans on the"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "property. They couldn't find contractors"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "and then they also had like property"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "management teams that just didn't manage"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "the properties at all. So people would"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "move into these properties and they're"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "like, \"Hey, I've got a broken toilet."}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "Like, who do I call and they they didn't"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "have anyone they could really even talk"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "to. It was a disaster.\" Really happened"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "like pretty bad in like Florida and like"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "Tampa. They were buying up all these"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "condos and everything after after the"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "2008 problem. So yeah, but still"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Go ahead."}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:29", "text": ">> Grim saying in our chat that there's a"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "lot of partial built homes sitting"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "around the Port Charlotte area where"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "because he just moved to Florida"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "recently. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know,"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "again, a lot of these investors, they"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "overbought. Um, we're also seeing a big"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:42", "text": "disaster happening in Florida right now"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "in the condo markets. The condo market"}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "in Florida, I mean, people are taking"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "huge haircuts. They overbuilt a lot of"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "these big condominium complexes and 75%"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "price drops now because they're just"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "like, we can't sell these things. So I"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "you you know"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:01", "text": ">> well just like thinking logically if"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "they go in and they pay over market"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "value then everybody in that"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "neighborhood is like oh house sold for"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "that so now our value is that right and"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "then they come in and and Blackstone"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "Black Street buys Blackstone"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:14", "text": ">> Blackstone yeah"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> buys another couple houses inflates it"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "even more and so it just becomes this"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "art artificially inflated market"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:22", "text": ">> to where everybody's houses like the"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "sellers are kind of winning I would"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "think in that scenario but the buyers"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "are losing big time."}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "Yeah. Um it's uh"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:36", "text": "I mean I don't know if you could Look,"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "there's no one here's the thing. There's"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "no one real estate market. This is"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "something people forget, right? There's"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "no one real estate market. San Francisco"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "is totally different than uh Joplin,"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "Missouri. Totally different. And so when"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "I I can't stand when like CNBC or these"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "other, you know, networks, they're like"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "they talk about the real estate market"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "as if it's like this one big monolithic"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "thing. It's not. It's every, you know,"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "every market is different. Every area is"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "different. But one thing is not"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "different, which is the interest rates."}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "So, you're going to see some areas that"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "have a lot of problems like in Miami and"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "overbuilt condo areas, but then you're"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "going to see areas that are, you know,"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "again, like uh Joplin, Missouri or or"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:21", "text": "Lik, Texas or these other areas where"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "there's been people waiting to move for"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "like three years now because of interest"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "rates. And even like a quarter point is"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "a lot. I mean, think of how that affects"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "your mortgage. Like even a, you know, a"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "small amount really affects whether or"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "not it's like you're using almost all of"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "your take-home pay to pay for your"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "mortgage."}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "So, excuse me. The old rule was like you"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "should never spend more than 30% of your"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "take-home pay on your place of living,"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "right? So, your your rent, what your"}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "mortgage, like your take-home pay should"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:51", "text": "not exceed 30% or you shouldn't be"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "spending 30 more than 30% to live in a"}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "place, you know, but man, people are"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "spending 50% right now, you know. So,"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "it's crazy. But all that to say, I think"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "you're going to see a big shift here"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "soon. And I think um at least in like"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "the starter home market"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "um you're going to see you're going to"}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "see some movement because it's been a"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:13", "text": "little it's definitely been slow for"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "sure. Um but anyway, that's my little"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "real estate aside. So"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": ">> redacted.c/invest."}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:20", "text": ">> Yeah, go to our website. Uh you know, we"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "cover this kind of stuff all over there."}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "We have a whole other YouTube channel"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "devoted to investing and I've been doing"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "it for many decades now. And uh so I"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "know a thing or two about it, that's for"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "sure. And uh I've seen ups and downs and"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "can tell you what's coming for sure. I"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "can see a lot of it. Um"}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "Zfeld 63, this show is such propaganda."}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:50", "text": "I love I love that. I love it. Thank"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "you, Zfeld. He's probably watching the"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "re like the beginning part of the show"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "where we were talking about Iran. Uh he"}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "says, \"Why do you ask who's actually"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "doing the killing in Iran but not in"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "Gaza when Hamas was murdering their own"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "people?\""}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "we asked those qu I you can wind the"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:11", "text": "tape back. Go back to We were asking"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:11", "text": "those questions. Who's doing the killing"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "is"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:13", "text": ">> Yeah, cuz the"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:16", "text": ">> we did all"}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:17", "text": ">> we've covered the but but the thing is"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "who who was doing the killing? Like"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:21", "text": "actually ask yourself that because from"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "some of the ones I saw where it looked"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "like Hamas was attacking like with in"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "the food storage facility when it looked"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "like Hamas was shooting at their own"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "people. Turned out that that was"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "actually Israel."}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:35", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean Israel also hired ISIS."}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "ISIS is in there doing things"}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:39", "text": ">> or the helicopter attacks on their own"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "people under the Hannibal directive."}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "Like when journalists went there and"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "they're like, \"Hey, why all of these"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "people that were leaving that that"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "concert, that summer concert, why are"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "there bullet holes in the ceilings of"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "all of these cars and all of these"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "they're all dead Israelis in these cars"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "all the way leading away from this"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "concert?\""}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:56", "text": ">> And then Israel buried them to hide the"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "evidence."}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:00", "text": ">> And then we later learned that it was"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "Israel shooting its own people"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:03", "text": ">> right down the line."}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:05", "text": ">> Yeah. So it we it comes down to like why"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "why aren't we reporting those things?"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "Because we can't find it. We can't find"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "actually Hamas shooting Palestinians."}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, that's show us videos of"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "Palestin of Hamas shooting uh"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "Palestinian children in the head."}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:21", "text": ">> Plenty of plenty of videos of Israelis"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "shooting Palestinians in the head and"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "children."}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:26", "text": ">> I I love I love when people come in and"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "say we're propaganda and follow it up"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "with propaganda."}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:34", "text": ">> Right. That's my favorite, too."}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "We're asking questions. Again, I our"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "position is the numbers that we have"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "from our own sources over the past week"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "on how many people have been killed is"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:43", "text": "dramatically lower than the lies we've"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "been hearing from the CIA and MSAD"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "numbers. 200,000 people killed, 20,000"}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:52", "text": "people. Mhm. Why? You should ask"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "yourself this question. Why is the"}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "Western media ignoring"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "what Israeli media is reporting about"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "their own MSAD in Iran handing out"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "weapons"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "and actually involved in shooting and"}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "killing individuals?"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": ">> That's coming from Israeli media."}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:15", "text": ">> You want to talk about propaganda?"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "Propaganda is also, you know, lies are"}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "also lies by omission, like hiding"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "things on purpose by not telling the"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "truth. And that's exactly what the"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "Western media is doing. The mockingb"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "bird media, you're not going to see that"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "on Fox News at all."}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "Let's see if Mark Leavvin's show, if"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "Mark Levvin talks about MSAD being"}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "caught red-handed shooting and arming"}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "people. Let's see if Mark Levvin will"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "cover that part of the story."}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "Well, and for years it was all Ryan's"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:44", "text": "going to get nukes. We got to bomb them."}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "We got to bomb them. We got to bomb"}, {"start": "01:46:44", "end": "01:46:47", "text": "them. And then all of a sudden it's like"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "we can't get a war that way. What do we"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "Oh, we love the people. They're killing"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "the people."}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "Right. That's a great point. So, in"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "December, President Trump said he would"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "consider attacking Iran if they continue"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "their nuclear arsenal buildup. Well, we"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "know that confirmed they're not they"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "have they don't have that ambition at"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "all. That's even confirmed by Tulsi"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "Gabbard, his own head of the DNI. And"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:15", "text": "the CIA also confirmed that they are not"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "building nuclear weapons. So then what"}, {"start": "01:47:15", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "what happened? The story changed. So now"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "the story is we got to support these"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "protesters"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "in the streets. We have to go and bomb"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "them to show them our love. We have to"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "go kill civilians in order to protect"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "the civilians because that's exactly"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:37", "text": "what's going to happen."}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "This idea we're just going to just going"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "after regime change. We just want to"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "take out because there the people are"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "oppressed. So it's our job as Americans"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "to go and bomb another country. How"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "about you let them handle it?"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "How about you let them figure it out?"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:53", "text": ">> Well, and also they they were never"}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "building nuclear weapons. They wanted"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "nuclear power because they don't want to"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:47:59", "text": "be dependent on us that were like they"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "want something that they can control and"}, {"start": "01:47:59", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "we can't take away."}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:07", "text": ">> That's well documented. Exactly."}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "But in the same way that Gaddafi,"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "you know, was wanted to become"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "completely"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "um separated and self-sufficient in"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "Libya. We couldn't have that. No, no,"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "no, no, no. So what do we do? We"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:23", "text": "sodomized him with a sword."}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "Give up any nuclear ambitions? I'll meet"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "with Absolutely. with the government,"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "Obama. Absolutely. I I don't want that."}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "We want Libya to be prosperous and"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "self-sufficient and wealthy and people"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "could have a great life here. Can't have"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:43", "text": "that. So, what do we do?"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:45", "text": "You know exactly what we did."}, {"start": "01:48:43", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "So, I I love this like we need to be"}, {"start": "01:48:45", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "supporting or we're like somehow you're"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "somehow pro-Islam Islamist terrorists."}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "What What are you talking?"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:55", "text": ">> Well, and also like like think about how"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "they sold the Iraq war. It was all it"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "was all Saddam's working on weapons of"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "mass destruction, weapons of mass"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "destruction, weapons of mass"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "destruction, and then it was babies and"}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "incubators and that's when we went in,"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:06", "text": ">> right? Which was all"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:08", "text": ">> like this. How many times are they going"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "to tell this same story and people are"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "going to fall for it?"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "Herb Green says, \"Yeah, publicly"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "sodomized.\" Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:21", "text": "exactly."}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:21", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "I'm just looking here in the chat room."}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "let's see. Got any super chats?"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:42", "text": "Nobel Price, thank you for your $5 super"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "chat. Says, \"It's super weird. My"}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "Verizon phone has no service, but my"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "tablet has full 5G sitting right next to"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "it. It's on the same plan.\""}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "David, can you speak to that? Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "I don't know if you know, but there was"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:56", "text": "a huge outage. I don't know if it's"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "still going on right now um across the"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "country."}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:02", "text": ">> Well, it could be because your your"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "phone is 5G and your tablet could still"}, {"start": "01:50:02", "end": "01:50:07", "text": "be 4G or LTE. So,"}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:10", "text": ">> it says completely different signal."}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "Huh. But he says it's the same plan."}, {"start": "01:50:10", "end": "01:50:13", "text": ">> Yeah, same plan but different signal."}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "It's a it's a like it's from a"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "completely like same tower but like the"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "the distance is different. So if you if"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "LTE is down, you could still have 5G."}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:26", "text": ">> Do you know what I'm saying? Because"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "they're not sent out from the same"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:33", "text": ">> thing. Uh UCL, thank you for your $10."}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "Australian says, \"I would choose the"}, {"start": "01:50:33", "end": "01:50:37", "text": "Iranian government over the American"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "government any day.\" I don't know about"}, {"start": "01:50:37", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "that. I mean, I got to be honest with"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "you. I don't know enough about their"}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:45", "text": "government, you know? I mean, I know"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "enough about my government. My"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "government is terrible in the United"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "States. The people running our"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "government are like demonic. So, I can"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "say that with certainty about the United"}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "States and the deep state actors that"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "control our government. And the CIA is"}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "one of the like basically a Satan"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "organization."}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "So, I can say that with certainty in the"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "US."}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "But you you can't you can't really gauge"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "the government like how they would"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "actually be because we sanctioned them."}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "So they have to do things completely"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "differently because the people will"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "blame potentially the government for the"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "sanctions because oh you guys were"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "messing with the United States and they"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "put sanctions on. You know what I mean?"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:28", "text": "So you can't really gauge it properly"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "with without it thriving."}, {"start": "01:51:28", "end": "01:51:32", "text": ">> Souljar Studios, thank you for your five"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "dollar five pounds. He says, \"Choice is"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:37", "text": "an illusion created between those with"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:39", "text": "power and those without.\""}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "Uh, Souljar says, \"Also, they are"}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "dismantling the sleeping middle class."}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "More and more people are becoming poor"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "while their cattle are being bred for"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "slavery.\""}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:53", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "let's see. Red Pill 8485 says, \"Thank"}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "you for your 799.\" Super chat says,"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:58", "text": "\"Clayton and Natalie, can you please do"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:01", "text": "a segment on the draconian anti-semitism"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "laws happening in Australia next week?\""}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "Uh, yes. Let's do it. Um, Simon, did you"}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "hear that? Let's do that for sure."}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:10", "text": "Absolutely."}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:10", "text": ">> They're coming here, too."}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:14", "text": ">> Yep. Who was who was the We should get"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "the Who was the woman we had? Uh, it was"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "before Christmas. Uh, she was Australian"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:21", "text": "and she was she like knew everything"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:21", "text": "about every like"}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:24", "text": ">> She just started like rattling off all"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "the lawsuits and stuff like that and"}, {"start": "01:52:24", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "like all the case number like like get"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "her."}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Let's let's have her back on."}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "Let's see if she's free next week. I'd"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "love to talk about that. Also, um you"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "know, we're going to talk tomorrow about"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "what's going on in Alberta right now in"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:43", "text": "Canada and the freedom movement, right?"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": "Happening right now to secede from"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "Canada. Yeah, Maria. We'll get Maria on"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "tomorrow. Uh next week."}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "Um let's see. And that's I think about"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:58", "text": "it on the super chats, I think. Um"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "as far as I can see."}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "Moto Motor, thank you for your $2 super"}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:04", "text": "chat. I appreciate it as well. 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It turns out that"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "they train people to resist ICE. Not by"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "being peaceful protesters, not by"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "speaking to their elected"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "representatives. Oh, no. Instead, by"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "blocking ICE agents with their bodies,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "getting detainees out of the car if they"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "can. So, if you see someone arrest, go"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "and try and open that door. Physically"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "confronting ICE agents. Here's some of"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "their training materials that was"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "published on Instagram. Says that if"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "you're getting arrested, you can shake"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "it off. You just shake it off. Hey"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "criminals, why haven't you thought of"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "this? Just use Taylor Swift's shake it"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "off."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> It's on your permanent record."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Just done that."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> It's on your permanent record now. But"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "just shake it off."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> Just shake it off. Get out of there. You"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "can just shake them off."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> You can just do it. You could Yeah. The"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "cops cops grab you be like, \"No, thank"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "you.\" They're like, \"Oh, damn it. Cops"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "hate this one trick,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> right?\" Like, have you seen those"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Instagrams where they're like, \"If"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "you're in handcuffs, you do this thing"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "or whatever.\" It's like, \"No, you just"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "like a dog. You just shake it.\" Okay. Uh"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "why haven't criminals thought of this"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "all along? Now that said, if one of your"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "co-instigators is getting arrested, they"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "say that you should lower your center of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "of gravity and like pound on the fists."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "That's also okay. This is like Mauist"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "China deputizing citizens and"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "encouraging anarchy. But who is it that"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "they're really recruiting to do this? Is"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "it like this? 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Totally in a league of its own."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "It's a pharmaceutical grade methylene"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "blue. It's paired with PQQ and NAD,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "which is the ultimate brain hack hybrid."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "So, get 10% off plus free shipping. Head"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "over to twwc.health/redacted"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "health/redacted and use the code"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "redacted."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> Now, I brought some clips that I find"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "humorous to address this situation, but"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "I really I'm only half joking. This kind"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "of activism doesn't read as solidarity."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "It reads as self-indulgence. Too many"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "working parents in black and Latino"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "communities, they're busy raising their"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "families and surviving the real world."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "So to them it looks less like justice"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and more like luxury performance that"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "they don't have the time or patience"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "for. Watch this comedian Brian Torres"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "day and his commentary on this."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Hey white women as a Latino we"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "appreciate your empathy. Okay, we really"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "do. But I'm telling you right now, if"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the shoe was on the other foot, Latinos"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "are not getting between you and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "federally armed agents to save you. All"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "right? Like, if ICE tomorrow starts"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "deporting short-haired white women with"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "septum piercings, you're on your own."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "All right? Like, you're never going to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "hear Jose like, \"Hey, YOU PUT THAT WOMAN"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "DOWN. YOU LEAVE Naen alone. N"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> she has a cat and a one-bedroom"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "apartment."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "You take her back to her yoga studio,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "fool."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> Naen, I love they chose Naen as"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> right like we appreciate it, but knock"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "it off. Now, here is how this discussion"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "has continued. Uh I'm going to play a"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "clip from one of my favorite YouTubers,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Ty Rivera. His episode yesterday was"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "about how black women are now upset that"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "white women are using the hashtag say"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "hername because they're saying, \"Oh, no,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "no, no. You were never allowed. This is"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "for black ladies only. This white lady"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "died. You can't use this hashtag that"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "was for us blacks.\" Watch."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> In case you haven't heard, the latest is"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "some black women are upset right now"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "because people are using the say her"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "name hashtag for Renee Nicole good. And"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "this is why I'm telling all white women"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "to withdraw your support from all people"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "of color except me, which I say only"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "half jokingly, but listen to this for a"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "second."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Say her name is for black women."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> Okay, so let me get this straight. White"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "women are supposed to use their"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "privilege for good and basically turn"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "themselves into human shields. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "supposed to join your marches. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "supposed to cut off their families and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "then when they end up losing their lives"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "in the line of duty, you're all going to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "be petty enough to not allow them to use"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the hashtag say her name. And this is"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "why I tell white women to sit it out"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "because I also saw a video where a woman"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "was saying that she felt guilty because"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "of her white tears."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> I mean, part of it is being like a white"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "woman that"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "I'm privileged and I have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "privilege. Um, so I feel like white"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "tears are not"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "always something that's helpful or"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "necessary. Um, when black and brown"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> I'm so sorry I'm crying in front of you"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> for a long time. Baby, I hate to break"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "it to you, but white tears are the only"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "ones that matter in this situation. If"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "your support wasn't necessary, they"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "wouldn't be asking for it all the time."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "They wouldn't be trying to guilt trip"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you into giving your support. And that's"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "why I say that these women really need"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "to cut off this toxic relationship they"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "have with certain people of color. it's"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "really not working out in your favor and"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "at the end of the day they don't even"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "respect you for your effort."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Okay. So, white women have done what"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "they were told by the DI DEI police."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "They risked their lives for minorities"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "that they don't know. And now some"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "communities are saying, \"Oh, no, but"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "your death is not as tragic as minority"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "death.\" So, what is this? Now, in my"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "opinion, this is misguided and"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "dangerous. Moral cosplay is exactly what"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "it is. It's about manufacturing risk to"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "feel morally alive because you're"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "otherwise bored for communities you are"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "not a part of and probably don't even"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "understand. Absolutely. ICE is guilty of"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "power and abuse right now. Those claims"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "definitely deserve investigation,"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "oversight, and lawful challenge. But a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "white progressive soccer mom army"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "practicing street level anarchy is not"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "the answer and they should have the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "humility to admit as much. Now history"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "shows us where this path leads. Mao's"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "student brigade brigades were not"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "justice movements. They were instruments"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "of chaos fueled by moral confusion. Did"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "we not learn from this? What we're"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "seeing here is not resistance, but it's"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "frustration."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Misguided energy that most likely could"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "be channeled into something constructive"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "instead being spent play acting"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "revolution for strangers and people are"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "paying the real price. So, let me know"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "what you think of this. And if you are a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "soccer mom who feels like, \"No, I need"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "to be doing this. I need to understand"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "why.\" So, let us know."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> We saw a lot of this when we lived in"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "New Jersey. Like there were a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "like these moms who they didn't work."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "They were kind of home all day with"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "their kids is your point. And they're"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "like, you know what? I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "go to this"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> feminist rally in Washington DC. You"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "guys all with me,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": ">> Like, okay, you have nothing better to"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "do. You're going to go down to do"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> I need to register my voice as a strong"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "woman, right? Because otherwise diaper"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "changing is not where that's not who I"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "am as a as a nursing diaper changing"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "mom. Like I'm I'm more than this. I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "frustrated. I'm going to go and I"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "understand that. and and you should have"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the freedom to express yourself. You do"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "not have the freedom to go and commit"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "crimes and impede law enforcement. You"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "just don't. That's just not how the law"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "is written. And you know, if it were"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "your right, then I would say go and do"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "it. But you do have to consider if you"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "are someone who runs a family, what is"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "the cost that your family might pay?"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Have they decided that that's worth it?"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Probably they have because a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "these moms uh, you know, make their kids"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "extremists. They sit at the kitchen"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "table and they tell them like, \"If mommy"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "doesn't do this, black people will not"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "be free.\" And the kids are like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "well then you're going to Right.\" But"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "can kids really give their consent to"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "you risking your lives for deporting"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "what in many cases I think it was"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "reported that some of the the the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "criminal prosecution that Renee Good was"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "impeding was for a sexual predator. So"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "do your kids like, \"Yes, you better go"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "get that sexual predator out of out of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "jail. We all agree that you might die,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "but you got to do it, right? Who gives"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "consent for this? What are the costs"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "when you become a mother? These are"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "important conversations that you should"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "have with humility, but I don't think uh"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "that that's being pushed to them and"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "their social media algorithms."}]

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That is, if the regime"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "survives, it will be the greatest missed"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "opportunity against terrorism and an"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "avowed terror state ever. diplomacy and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "negotiations are ridiculous words in the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "context of what's happening in Iran and"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "what's happening to those brave people."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Tell that to the vice president who is"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "trying to push the administration"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "towards a diplomatic solution to any of"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "this. But okay, so he is, I guess, a"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "lunatic. Uh here's Laura Loomer. Bomb"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the Ayatollah in all caps. This is like"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "apparently what she dreams about every"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "night. So of course,"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> I'm not supposed to condone violence on"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "X. I would be afraid that would get me"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "kicked off. But I guess there's certain"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "people you can control."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> No, you can. No, you can if you're"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Israel for you can say you can"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "absolutely say that, but you can't say"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "anything else. Like so that you know how"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "this you know how this rolls now. Of"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "course."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> Well, that was YouTube would even"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "YouTube would even it's in their policy"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that you're allowed to say uh that you"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "can kill Palestinians because they're"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the Hamas terrorists or they're I mean"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "you could say kill Hamas but you can't"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "say anything about Israel. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "literally like in their rules that"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "you're allowed to do it."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Gotcha."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> We are living of course in a clown"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "world. a a free speech clown world."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Anyway, so of course this is coming."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Netanyahu, of course, just visited the"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "White House recently, asked Trump to"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "carry out a new round of attacks on"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Iran, usually when he when he shows up a"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "few days later. This happens. I've"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "spoken to I've spoken to sources in"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Israel. Former IDF who've told me that"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "they believe it's either going to happen"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Friday into Saturday or the following"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Friday into Saturday. That is on the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Israeli side that we have. And the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "president just spoke a few moments ago"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "on this very subject. Listen."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "To all Iranian patriots, keep"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "protesting."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Take over your institutions if possible"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "and save the name of the killers and the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "abusers that are abusing you. You're"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "being very badly abused. If the numbers"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "are right now, I hear five different"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "sets of numbers. I hear numbers. Look,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "one death is too much. But I hear much"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "lower numbers and then I hear much"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "higher numbers. But I say save their"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "names because they'll pay a very big"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "price. Then I've canled all meetings"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "with the Iranian officials until the"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "senseless killing of protesters stops."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "And all I say to them is help is on its"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "way. You saw that I put tariffs on"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "anybody doing business with Iran. Just"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "went into effect today."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "And uh I say make Iran great again. You"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "know, it's a great country until these"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "monsters came in and took it over. Who"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "us?"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> The CI the CIA had nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "that. Of course, I just Okay,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> we did that."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> All right. Oh my god. Um, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the numbers thing this is, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "see like people like Mark Levvin"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "throwing around numbers that he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "know what the hell he's talking about."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Our sources yesterday confirmed the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "numbers that we reported here yesterday"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "on the show. Um, 2,150"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "dead. Um, this was as of two days ago,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "480 injured, 620 missing across 11"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "cities in Iran. Now, you've heard"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "numbers from the CIA and MSAD pushing"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "out 300,000 dead. Then you have like"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Mark Levvin pushing out tens of"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "thousands of people. Okay, so those are"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the numbers from about 48 hours ago. And"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "we'll get you updated numbers as we get"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "them from our sources. Anyway, we want"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "to bring in Dave Damp now who is the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "editor over at anti-war.com, one of our"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "favorite websites. It's very rare"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "because I mean there's so many wararm"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "mongers right now that desperately want"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "war and they'll try to spin it any way"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "they can. And they're trying to tell us,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Dave, that it's about human rights. We"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "got to protect the protesters and then"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "we're going to sanction them to death so"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "they don't have they don't have food."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "They don't I mean, I don't know what the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "And now it's about nuclear. It's also"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "about nuclear weapons."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Love, Dave. How do When you love the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Iranian people, how do you express that?"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "You bomb them, you starve them. Is this"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "just tough?"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> You take away their power, their"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "electricity."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> What are they trying to sell us here?"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "What do you think?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Go ahead, Dave. Sorry."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, first, thanks for having me"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "back. Uh, it's good to talk to you guys."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "And so, I think it's important for"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "people to understand, which I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "your viewers do, is that Israel is"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "really pushing for another attack on"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Iran. They want Trump to do it or Trump"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "to back them. And right now, I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "you go on X, we're being just hit with"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "so much propaganda about what's"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "happening inside Iran that it's very"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "difficult to understand exactly what"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "what is happening. um and these people"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "claiming as you said the numbers, you"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "know, kind of these astronomical numbers"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "and you just see it spread like"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "wildfire. Um it's very clear that this"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "propaganda is being pushed because they"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "they want a war. President Trump has"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "said uh and he's been saying this for a"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "few weeks now that he would attack Iran"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "if they killed protesters. Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "believe based on what we've seen from"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Israel that he probably told that maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "to Netanyahu or Israeli officials"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "privately before he first said that"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "publicly, which is why I think is part"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "of the reason why we saw a MSAD X"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "account at the at the end of December."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "But when these protests first started"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "and they were relatively calm, uh, we"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "saw this MSAD X account in Farsy say"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "that they have, you know, agents among"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the protesters. It seemed like they were"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "trying to stoke a crackdown from Iranian"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "authorities. And one thing that we do"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "know both from Iranian government"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "sources and NOS's that are, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "backed by the West that at least over a"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "100red Iranian uh law enforcement and"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "military personnel have been killed. Um"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "that's a significant number. That means"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "that there is, you know, attacks on"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "them, armed attacks against them. Of"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "course, I'm sure there's also a"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "crackdown on unarmed protesters as well."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Um, but it's certainly just not the"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "picture that we're were being shown in"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Western media. And again, on X, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "man, you go on there and it's just it"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "people just pumping all this stuff out."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> Oh, fake videos, videos from Greece,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "like you see like videos, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "mean, it's just like people sharing all"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "sorts of fake videos or whatever it is"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "to further their own narrative. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> videos from previous protests about"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "women removing their hijab. We've seen"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "that years ago, but people don't know"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "this. So, you know, some of the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "conversation I've seen people taking"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Glenn Greenwald to task and you don't do"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "that in my presence, saying, \"Oh, you"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "just don't care about Iranians. They"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "really do want this.\" How the hell can"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "we know the will of the Iranian people"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "or that we should solve it? This is this"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "is where this conversation hangs in the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "balance,"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Yeah. And and how are we going to how is"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the US going to solve this"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> just going to start bombing Iran? You"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "know, you've"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> Dave, that's always the best way to"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "solve it. We have a long history of"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "regime change operations. I mean, let's"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "look at Libya. Libya is a shining"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "example of how great things are there"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "now after we bayoneted and sodomized him"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "with a sword. Uh Moar Gaddafi or Iraq. I"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "mean, look how great Iraq is. Or"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Afghanistan. I mean, the laundry list is"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "I mean, it's it's a long list right now."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "So, whenever we want to solve something,"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "the best thing for us to do is bomb"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "them. That that's how you help."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> Please do respond to that. this idea"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "that like, well, we need to save them."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "They really do want this. Can you"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "respond to that?"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I mean, I would say that"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "these protests started over the economic"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "situation in Iran. And since the first"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Trump administration, since he quit the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Iran nuclear deal, the US policy has"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "been what they call maximum pressure,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "which essentially, you know, the the the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "idea of it, Mike Pompeo said at the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "time, was to destroy the Iranian economy"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "um and hurt the Iranian people so then"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "they would rise up against the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "government. So the US strategy has been"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "to impose economic harm on the people of"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Iran. So I would say if you really want"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "the US to help Iran, the I the the right"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "thing to do would be to lift those"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "sanctions and not be involved. And I"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "mean, you know, you see what Trump is"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "saying there, telling them to seize the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "institutions. Look at what the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "government is saying. You know, all"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "their official media and everything is"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "calling saying that this is all being"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "orchestrated by the US and Israel, which"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "of course there's certainly uh some"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "truth to that, but there's also real"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "grievances. But if you have the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "president of the United States telling"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "them, you know, ordering them to take"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "over the government and continue the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "protests, um, that's just giving the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "government kind of more of an excuse to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "to crack down. And also Trump, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "he said that he's going to impose these"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "tariffs now. So if if that's true, if he"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "actually enforces that, you never really"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "know with these tariffs if they're"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "actually going to be enforced and say"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "that impacts uh certain countries"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "trading with Iran, that could just hurt"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the Iranian economy and the people more."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Um so, you know, it just does not seem"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "to be the best idea. And again, just the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "idea here that it's the US's job to help"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the Iranian people when, as you"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "mentioned, you look at our track record"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "in the region and you look at what the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "US has been help helping Israel do for"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the past two years. I would say uh"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "there's probably a better candidate for"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "for helping the Iranian people than the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "US."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> And I mean, I I I don't mean to be like"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "glib or anything. I just come from the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "America first position on this, which is"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "our our country is crumbling,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "crumbling. And you know, you see like"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the people sharing like photos. They're"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "like, \"Hey, Greenland, do you want"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "this?\" And it's like shows all these"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "homeless encampments across California"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "and you know, like this is what we So,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "we have a lot of problems here in the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "United States. And I don't understand"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "how the the the narrative is that we can"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "somehow help them, that it's our job to"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "help them. Like would we want amid"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "protests in the United States about our"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "own government or about President Biden,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "we would want the Iranian government"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "here with tens of thousands of people"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "involving themselves in our government"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "or our way of living. I don't want"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Israel telling me what it's like in my"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "community or what I should expect from"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "my government. F off."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Yeah. And that's something people need"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "to understand. You know, even if say,"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "you know, you were opposed to your"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "government, say during the Biden"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "administration, you thought the 2020"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "election was rigged and you wanted him"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "out, would you have supported China or"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Russia coming in and taking Biden out?"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> You know, people are instinctively"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "against foreign uh intervention."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> So again, it just we're getting this"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "picture, you know, I see like this"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "report on Fox News, the reporter is"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "like, \"Oh, my source in Iran tells me"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "all the Iranian protesters"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "love Trump. They're so happy with what"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "he's doing. They want him to do more."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "It's like really is that what they're"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "saying in Iran right now?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> No. And then you have Max Blumenthal"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "from the Grey Zone reporting today"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "showing other, you know, on the street"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "protesters saying the exact opposite of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "that. But you're never going to see that"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "on Fox News. So there's a there's a"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "massive media propaganda campaign"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "working right now, is there not?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. There there certainly is. It"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it's massive. I mean, I think they're"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "throwing all of their SCOP chips into"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "this right now because from Israel's"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "perspective, I mean, the things we've"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "talked about before, they know that"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "their time is running out in the US,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "that they're losing support, and they"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "might view this administration as kind"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "of the last shot for the big war with"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Iran. And, you know, again, from an"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "America first perspective, what is going"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "to be the consequences if the US does"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "start bombing Iran? The Iranians have"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "said that they're going to hit US bases,"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "US ships in the region in response. The"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "last time during what we now call the"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "12-day war, they really choreographed it"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "and gave the US a warning before they"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "attacked that base in Qatar. But I"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "think, you know, we have reason to"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "believe that this time they're not going"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "to give warning. Um, and again, there's"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "so much kind of scop happening. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "hard to give credit to these reports,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "but I've seen reports of that Iran has"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "warned Gulf countries in the region that"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "h house US bases that if the the US"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "attacks them, they're going to strike US"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "bases without warning. Again, we don't"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "know exactly how you credible these"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "reports are. Also, there's also reports"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "that the US has has warned their Gulf"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "allies that they are going to bomb Iran."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "So, I mean, we don't know what's going"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "to happen in the next in the coming"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "days, but I mean, if we're going to take"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "President Trump at his word, I mean, he"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "said that he's going to hit him if, you"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "know, so, uh, it's just it seems like"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "there's a real chance of something"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "happening here. And if there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "American casualties in, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Americans could get killed and and"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "that's probably just going to drag the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "US even further into it."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Now, something I put on X is, oh, we're"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "really worried about the lives of"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Iranian protesters who are protesting"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "their governments. What about the lives"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "of Israeli protesters who are protesting"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "the Netanyahu government or protesting"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "what's happening in the West Bank? No,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "them. We don't care about them."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Absolutely not. No. Double double"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "standard. Now, I just think it's worth"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "remembering the scops that the Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "has been running on Iran for decades."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "You probably recall in 2022 there was a"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "bombshell report in the Washington Post"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "about the Stamford report that detailed"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "the level of scops that the Pentagon was"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "running inside Iran on social media. So"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "it was as benign as here's a recipe and"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "then also overthrow the Ayatollah that"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "was also happening uh in Afghanistan and"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "other places. We know this. So we know"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "that this has continued. All Lloyd"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Austin said at the time was, \"We'll look"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "into that. Maybe we should stop it.\" But"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "we have no reason to believe that it"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "ever stopped. We We saw Israel doing it"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "in open social media with Netanyahu and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "his clean glasses of water. Iranians,"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "you can have this, too. So, there's We"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "cannot excuse ourselves from stoking"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "this. We just can't really know how"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "potent the ingredient has been, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean just a few"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "months ago, I don't know if you've"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "noticed, but the son of the sha has been"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "all over the place. Yes. Um apparently"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "he met with Steve Wickoff. That's"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "according to Axios to Barack Ravid. So I"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "haven't seen conversation confirmation"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "beyond that. But he's really getting"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "shoved down our throats. And there was"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "reporting from Herets a few months ago"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "that Israel was pushing was pushing him."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "That that's why we were seeing him"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "everywhere. and and he's really and"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "there's claims that people have been"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "chanting for him in the streets in Iran"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "and there's been videos that purport to"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "show that. But again, this stuff I just"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "find this all very hard to believe that"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "that's someone who Iranians want to fly"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "in. Someone who hasn't lived there in"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "decades want to fly in and put into"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "power."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": ">> Um so we're getting hit at all angles I"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "think here."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": ">> Well, we know the CIA with their Go"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "ahead. I was just going to say I think a"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "lot of Americans people are aware of"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "that at this point."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> Um but it is they're really laying it on"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "thick right now with the propaganda."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": ">> Yeah, it's true. I mean we just saw"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "yesterday the report from Israel um I"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "think from Smoker saying they're going"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "to now it's $1.5 billion they're"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "devoting to Hazbara to push out"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "propaganda. That's part of their new"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "budget. $1.5 billion. I mean they're"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "like saying it out in the open like here"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "you go. Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": ">> I wonder if there's anyone who didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "buy Ukraine, didn't buy Venezuela,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "didn't buy Yemen, but then they're like,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "\"Yes, Iran. This one's different.\""}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": ">> Who is that archetype?"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": ">> I mean, we don't know. Raise your hand"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "in the chat. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> Well, I was also going to say the CIA's"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "operation have a whole divisions devoted"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "to pushing out, you know, and fmenting"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "this discontent and this chaos. As"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Colonel Towner Watkins likes to point"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "out, this is, you know, strategy of"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "tension, right? To keep us like in this"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "like heated back and forth. You got the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Laura Loomers and Mark Levven, you got"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the neocons on the other side pushing"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "for this and you got the mega, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "cat turds who are all up Trump's ass no"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "matter what they got, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "and then you have people being slammed"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "as independent media. It's just, it's"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "just crazy right now. So, um I guess you"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "know at the end of the day, what are"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "your sources saying, Dave, from people"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "on the ground or people you're speaking"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "about like how likely is this to unfold"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "in the next few days? Some sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "attack, some sort of US involvement um"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "and air strikes or assistance to Israel."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": ">> Yeah, it's been difficult to kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "figure it out uh because just hearing so"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "many different things. One thing that we"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "haven't seen uh which is different from"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "last year back in June before the war."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "We haven't seen a big buildup of US"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "forces in the Middle East. You know, US"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "warships and everything. Um and you know"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "there is reporting that the military has"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "told Trump that if if they want to"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "attack then they need time to prepare"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "for the Iranian counterattack. Um so I I"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "I am hoping that that's a sign that"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "we're not going to see you know US US"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "air strikes here. But at the same time,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "I mean, you know, with Trump, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "always tough to read him. But I think at"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "this point, you know, post Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "attack, um, that when when he makes"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "these threats, you know, these aren't"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "idle threats. And I think he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "riding high and thinking that he can"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "carry out some sort of quick military"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "intervention here, um, but it could"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "really, uh, blow up in his face. And I"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "mean, it sounds like there's been talk"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "within the administration about taking,"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "you know, they're basically determined"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "to take some sort of action which could"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "involve a cyber attack or actually"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "bombing government targets inside the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "country. Um, and and I think there's"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "something with Trump and you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "apparently one reason why they went"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "through with the attack on Maduro was"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "because Maduro was kind of um trying to"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "call Trump's bluff, wasn't really taking"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "the US threat seriously. Um, so what"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "we've seen is Trump make some pretty big"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "threats here about bombing Iran if they"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "kill protesters. And now all of his the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "people close to him who are very"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "pro-Israel and want this war are"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "basically saying, \"All right, you said"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "you're going to do it, so let's let's do"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "it.\" And I think uh unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "um those are the people, the Lindsey"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Grahams are the people he seems to be"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "listening to at the moment."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": ">> Death eaters. They're death eaters."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": ">> Dave Damp, editor at anti-war.com, one"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "of our favorite websites. Um, if you are"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "anti-war, it's it's a must readad, but"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "if you're like a war monger like Lindsey"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Graham, chances are you're probably"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": ">> it's not your favorite."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> It's probably not your favorite website."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": ">> Not bookmarked by Lindsey Graham."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> Probably pro-war.com is your favorite"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "website. Uh, Dave, great to see you as"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "always. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> Yeah, thanks so much for having me."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "Appreciate it."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "So yeah, in first Corinthians, which is"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "a very early letter, everyone agrees"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Paul wrote it in the 50s probably. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "one of our earliest Christian documents"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "because it's earlier than the Gospels."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Yeah, you're absolutely right. Paul has"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "to call out some of the the people uh in"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "the Christian community at Corenth. One"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "of them is sleeping with his stepmother"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> and he says, \"Don't do that.\" Like what"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "what are you sleeping with your stepmom"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "for, bro? Um [laughter] that's that's my"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "translation. Um"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> which the Romans hated. incest to the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Romans was like, \"No, God, that's not"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "technically incest."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Don't don't be doing this.\""}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> There were there were people in the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Christian community that there was"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "actually, and this actually goes to show"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "the the the the crazy diversity within"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the very early Christian community. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "some Christians uh were were at were at"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "opposite ends of the spectrum as far as"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "their attitudes towards sex."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> So, some Christians uh heard Paul's"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "message of a resurrection and that we're"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "going to get new bodies. Okay, that's"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that's one of Paul's central messages it"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "seems like uh that we can reconstruct"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "from his letters. He's going around"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "telling people Jesus is coming back soon"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "and and we're going to have our bodies"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "transformed. He says this in 1"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Corinthians 15."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> And so some Christians, like apparently"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "some of them at Corenth took this to"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "mean that we can do whatever we want"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "with our bodies because we're getting"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "new ones anyway, so who cares? That"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "seems to have been their attitude. And"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "so some of those Christians, this is not"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "people outside the church, but some of"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "those Christians were sleeping with"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "their stepmother, they were sleeping"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "with prostitutes, they were doing"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "whatever they wanted sexually, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Because because they actually"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "internalized Paul's message in a in a in"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "a way that he didn't necessarily intend."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "And the we the way we know that he"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "didn't intend it that way is because"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "then he wrote the letter of first"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Corinthians to tell them not to do that."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Oh. among other things like in in first"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Corinthians. It's a fascinating piece of"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "literature from from the mid- 1st"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "century BC that offers a pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "important window into into early"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Christian thinking at least from Paul."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Now again, we always have to remember"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "there's diversity. And that's one of the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "things I'm trying to hammer home with"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "this text, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> Is that just because we have one"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Christian text that says some Christians"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "were doing it this way doesn't mean that"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "anyone else was necessarily,"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> So we we can't we can't we have to be"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "careful with methodological slippage."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Yes. which means we can't just wave at a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "text and say, \"Oh, yeah, that's that"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "proves everything.\" It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "necessarily prove much at all. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "back to Paul. Back to Paul. So, he he's"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "writing specifically to this one"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "community, these Christians at Corinth"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "that he had just recently converted from"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "paganism, the recent converts from"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "paganism to the Jesus movement and and"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> paganism. Explain what paganism is."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I'm I'm using this loosely and"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "of course that's a later term as Almond"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "probably knows."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> Polytheism."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so they were"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "worshiping the Greco Roman god. So"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "paganism comes from a from a Latin word"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that means rural. So so it comes from a"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "later period when Christians had taken"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "over the cities uh ideologically"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "speaking, not militarily but"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "ideologically speaking. But then there"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "were still people out in the countryside"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "doing things in the conservative way as"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "as as is the case today oftentimes in"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "places like the United States. Um cities"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "are what is deemed more quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "progressive and rural areas are more"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "likely to be conservative. It's honestly"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "kind of always been that way."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> It's derogatory. It is. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> It's kind of like hillbilly."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> It was derogatory because it was used."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> It was used by Christians to refer to"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "Yeah. Hillbilly. Pagan means hillbilly."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "You know, rural rural bumpkin or"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "something like that. Obviously, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "using it in a derogatory sense."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Polytheism is fine though."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> So, he So, so Paul had just converted"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "some a handful. We don't know how many."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Hundred, not that many people in the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Greek bustling metropolis of Corinth to"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the Jesus movement. He rolled into town,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "told them the message of Jesus as he saw"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "it, and then converted this handful of"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "people, and then he left because he want"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "he had to go to the next city and make"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "more converts. That's that that was his"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "whole career going from city to city"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "trying to make converts and and he he"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "felt the urgency that Jesus was coming"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "back soon."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> Getting thrown in jail a lot. Getting"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "thrown in jail a lot. He gets thrown in"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "jail. What did he do to the Paththeia?"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Oh my god, that whole city was mad."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, the time that he cast the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "cast the the demon according to Acts"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "cast a demon out of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> he kept saying you're you're doing the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Christos thing."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> So, [laughter] yeah, we'll get there."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "I'm sure. I assume."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> So, uh so so Paul Paul writes to this"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "community at Corinth and he says, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "so you you guys need to"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> uh not be sleeping with your stepmother."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Just because I said you're getting new"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "bodies doesn't mean it doesn't matter"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "what you do in this body.\" Right"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> now, there were there were Christians on"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "the other end of the spectrum who"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "apparently thought that you should never"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "have sex with anyone ever, even your own"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "spouse."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> And Paul never."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> And and there was a monastic movement."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "It wasn't called that yet, but there was"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "there was a a um"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> that's what creates those sicko priests."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "There was a self there was a strain of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "self-control already within Greek"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "philosophy that Almond probably knows"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "about where where Greek philosophers"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "were already saying maybe you should"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "control yourself and like focus on"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "higher spiritual realities."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> Meditate. Maybe sex isn't the best way"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "to to use your your finite earthly"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "existence. So so so Christians didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "make this up. Uh Jews didn't make this"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "up. This is Greek philosophers were"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "always saying this."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> Um they weren't always living it but"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "they [laughter] were saying they were"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "saying it a lot of times. And so Paul"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "also disagrees with them. So he also"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "thinks sex has a time and place. You"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "should never have sex. And that's"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "basically that's the middle ground that"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "that Paul is trying to drive in in in"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the letter of first Corinthians. Um and"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "that's where this stuff comes up"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "essentially. So again,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> why do you think he didn't suffer the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "ill effects of being bitten by a"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "poisonous viper when he got shipwrecked"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "and all the locals were like, \"Oh god,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "that dude's going to die. Watch him.\""}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> That's that's an interpretive question."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "And so we have the story in Acts 27 or"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "into Acts 28."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> Um where where he he has a shipwreck."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "He's being taken to Rome to stand trial"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "before the emperor."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> And so they're they put him on a ship,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "load him from the eastern Mediterranean,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "sail him all the way to Rome. They have"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "a shipwreck on Malta, which is an island"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "in the Mediterranean to the south of of"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Italy."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> You know, he's not supposed to be there,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "but the locals kind of take him and the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "other shipwreck victims in. Um and then"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "they're sitting around a a fire. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "winter apparently. and and this this"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "snake comes out of the fire and latches"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "onto his hand and and and all the locals"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "look at him like he's going to die"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "because he just got bit by this viper"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "and apparently talking about Paul,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> Paul. Yeah. It's apparently it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "poisonous one. And he like just looks"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "and like shakes it off into the fire"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "like nothing happened and keeps going on"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "with his preaching and all the all the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "natives just look at him, stare at him,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "wait for him to die. He doesn't die."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "It's like nothing happened. And then"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "they start worshiping him as a god. And"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "then he has to be like, \"No, guys, I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "not God. I'm just God's representative.\""}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "And so the the the text and again this"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "is an interpretive question, right? We"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "as we were just saying we have the text."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> That's what the text says. The text"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "doesn't give us an explicit explanation"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "for why Paul doesn't die. Um except that"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "I think I think that you know the author"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "of the text which is probably Luke um"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "wants wants us to believe that God is"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "protecting him. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Right? That doesn't mean that you can't"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "come along like Ammon I think and say"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "he's got some kind of concoction of of"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "of antivenenom in his body or something."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "We have other contemporary texts like"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Phileuminus who were talking about"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> hey um this is the theak that is used"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "counter the viper with this and that but"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "you have to Christ it has to be"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Christed."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> Um those texts um are additional"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "evidence that there's something going on"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "there with Paul's viper bite. um I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "have to believe in miracles because I"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "have the reason of the word and that"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "word clearly is reflecting a real"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "scientific anthropological reality that"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Paul is walking around with viper venom"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "which is not typical which is not"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "atypical excuse me is not atypical"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> so you think he's like the guy in the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "princess bride"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> so he's using he's using his knowledge"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "of of Galen's Theak, which allegedly"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Galen was using as like a"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "performance-enhancing drug to keep"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "himself safe from being poisoned by"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "venoms, by snake venoms."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "And he's connecting that to this"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "biblical writing of Paul getting bit by"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "a snake."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> All of that is written in Galen in a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "work on the depo."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> And he talks about the the Marcus"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Aurelius is on with its compound drugs."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the concept of using antidotes through"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the viper for venom specifically traces"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "in the bak text as well. It's the same"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "all these priests like Nikander, that's"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "what they're talking about. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "talking about the use of these venoms"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "and toxins in order to induce that"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "openeyed spiritual experience, vision."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "It is a process that is biochemical. And"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "I uh as an investigator of the Greek, it"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "looks to me like Paul is on that list."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "And that's why the Paththeia calls him"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "out for it. She knows that he's got to"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "be Christing. She knows what Christing"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> All right, we're going to get into the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Christing stuff. I want to make sure we"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "stay on track though, um, and not make"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "this thing go all over the place. I want"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "to keep it kind of like segmented. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "um, does that make sense to you how he's"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "connecting this theak, the idea of"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "these,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "first of all, I'm sure you know about or"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "are you familiar with Galen's Theak and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "and um, Nero's physician talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> Marcus Aurelius. Yeah, Marus. Also,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Nero's physician talked about the the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "right um"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "a concoction of like seven different"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "viper venoms, viper flesh, and all kinds"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "of stuff that allegedly Marcus Areas was"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "using and drinking daily. It had opium"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "in it as well. Um to keep himself safe"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "from people who were trying to kill him"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "with poisons."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> I have little doubt that there were"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "people doing drugs."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> Regardless of what your adviser said,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> well, this wasn't this wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "necessarily like [laughter] a like a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "drug to get you high. This was more this"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "was more concoction. Sure. That's fine."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "That's fine. Um again, I think Aman and"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "I both agree we want to be faithful to"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "the texts and be careful with the texts."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Right. So So Galen is writing quite a"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "bit later. Nero is obviously closer to"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Paul's time. Much closer to Paul's time."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> So weed under Nero, isn't he?"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> Yeah. At least traditionally, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> Um it's actually our sources aren't"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "great for that."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> Paul was executed under Nero."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> Yeah. traditionally like that. Our"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "sources are not not great for that, but"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "that that was the early rumor. Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Very early rumor. It's definitely not a"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "later creation by any stretch. Um it's"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "not in the Bible."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Um so, so my my perspective on this is"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "that we can hypothesize. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "interesting to hypothesize. I don't see"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "any evidence in the Bible for that. I"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "don't see any evidence in the biblical"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "text of Acts where this this, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "viper bites Paul that makes me think"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "he's definitely on some kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "concoction."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Sure. Sure. I get that. I get that."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Like it's not in there,"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": ">> But it doesn't say he's not."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": ">> But do you think it's reasonable how"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "he's making the connection from Galen's"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Theak to Paul not dying from being bit"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "by a viper?"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> I think he could write an article on it"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "too much talk about [laughter] it. I I"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "think I think he could write an article"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "on it. I'm done with it."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> It'd be fun. It'd be fun because I the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "the community can decide if it's too"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "much of a stretch. Now, the community is"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "wrong sometimes."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> Right. I think we can all agree on that."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> Um sometimes the community is too"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "conservative. I don't mean that"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "politically. I mean like they they just"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "cling to older ideas, right?"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> I don't know. I'm not a drug expert,"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "honestly. Like like, you know, I haven't"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "read Galen, so I can't really comment. I"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "I've read parts of Galen. I haven't read"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "much."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": ">> That's why I respect"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that. He hasn't read Galen. He doesn't"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "know."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Are we pulling a Dick Nixon by saying"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "that this means fellatio?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> And it's up to you. You're the one who"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "has to kind of build your case."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> Answer that by just translating. I don't"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "want to have any ideas about I just want"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "to translate it. Right. So what does it"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "then say after he did entered into this"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "act this sexual act with her? What"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "really happened? Dayan is really"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "emphasizing that he took the metal to"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "the aoroan."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "He took the offunnings."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Right. What is that?"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "His own his own offrunnings. His"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "affluesence his affluesence. Right."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> That Yeah, I'm sure it's vague though,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> right? It could be except we know also"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "also contextually though he's been"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "talking about semen eaters. So right"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> context matters right but then you got"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> formataphages right he's been talking"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "about it so it's a little bit of a cheat"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "but he's been talking about it already"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> who has"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> the author of this epipanius who's"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "writing it and he says he he showed her"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "that we do this in order that we live"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "right how are we how are we going to"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "live if we don't do this and then it"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "says look and it says Mary takes says"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "she was taken a back and falls down a"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "way deeply troubled. That's what t"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "faces. She's not happy about this."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Yeah. No. Yeah. She's Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> She's like, \"What?\""}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> It's like she's stunned mentally. What"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the hell? She falls all the way ki to"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the ground."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> And he picks her up and he"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> he says to her,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> \"Why? Why are you so freaking"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "unfaithful, you faithless bitch?\" Right."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Oo, peace. the almond translation,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> right? I added the [ __ ] part, right? I"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "added the [ __ ] part. Now, tell me"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "something. Where is the where is the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "offunnings? Where what is he doing? He's"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "making her eat something like the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "offites that Epipanius has already"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "talked about who are eating the semen."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "He It goes on, this passage goes on to"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "explain"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "what the people who are eating the semen"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "believed about why he was doing this."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Okay?"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> And they use"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "a half a dozen"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "verses from the New Testament. So"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "they're quoting"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "when Jesus says X, he means this. When"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Jesus said eat my flesh and blood, this"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "is the offering. When he said I'm going"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "somewhere and I'm going to return from"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "the origin, the origin is his semen."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Is that your interpretation somewhere?"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "I'm ascending to the place. It was his"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "semen. And that's what they how they"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "explain it. There's all sorts there's a"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "half a dozen justifications."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> This is how Epanius explains it."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Of why these people were doing"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "what they did. And it's through"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Epanius's."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> So do you believe that this is Epanius's"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "theory on what was happening in the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Bible"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> or what?"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> He's quoting he's quoting somebody that"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "he calls a heresy that believes this."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> Oh, I see."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Epanius is talking about people who are"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "doing this saying this is not good."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Right. This is one of the heresies and"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "in this one they justify the eating this"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "ice cruia. They justify it by saying"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Jesus specifically showed Mary how to do"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "this and said look we have to do this to"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "live and they go on to quote which is to"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "me most important. They're going on to"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "quote Jesus when he is saying things"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "like eat my flesh"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> and that's right here."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> It's what he means. Yeah. It's following"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "it following below where I"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> Okay. What is your take on this?"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Okay, I I think context as we've been"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "talking about and I'm going and I both"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "agree on this. Context is paramount,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "right? So, this is from a late document"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "for for Christian historical standards."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "400"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> 400. So, this is 400 years after, you"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "know, 300 plus years after Jesus, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> So, and it's from a guy who is who is"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "trying to catalog all the weird things"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "that people think about Jesus,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> but but this guy doesn't think they're"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "true. Not that we would necessarily care"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "what this guy thinks either way, but"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "it's I don't think he thinks it's true."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Even if he did think it's true, doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "make it true, right? Lot lots of people"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "are wrong about a lot of things."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Except for that Dayan"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Except for Dayan, which is it's like"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "he's saying, \"Hey, what is"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> you literally you have to snap your mind"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "out of it and realize now that really"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "what I'm telling you is,"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> okay, wait. So you think,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> so you think this Epiphanius secretly"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "thinks this is true and he's trying to"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> No, no, no. He's telling his reader, you"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "know, don't be shocked here. This is"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "really the way that they're doing."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Okay. So, yeah, what I want to do is"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "back up here. Um, and and and and ask"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "ourselves why this matters,"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> okay?"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Uh, to Jesus, right? So, so we're we're"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "trying to get back to Jesus here as"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "historical scholars, like not not doing"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "biblical theology of like what Jesus"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "means from a theological perspective,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "but but we're trying to understand"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> as historians because classes are"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "historians, right? So, who was this guy"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Jesus who walked the earth? Right?"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> And and most of us really, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "there's a minority mostly on the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "internet that thinks that Jesus is made"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "up and and there never really was a guy"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "named Jesus, but"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> almost everybody in the academy that"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "I've ever met would say that there"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "really was a historical Jesus who did"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "walk the earth. Almond, you think there"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "there was a historical Jesus who walked"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "the earth?"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": ">> Uh, I read texts that talk about him all"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "the time. That's my only I don't all of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the all of the academic debate"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": ">> all the myth, you know, is this person a"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "myth? Is this per does it [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "matter? The Greek is what matters."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "That's what our"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> Of course it matters. Of course it"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "matters because they wrote a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "madeup stuff,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> okay?"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> About everything not just about Jesus,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "about Zeus, about I mean, you know, so"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "just because something is written in a"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "historical text and and we we do want to"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "be responsible linguists and"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "philologians and and try to dive down"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "into the text, which is what we've been"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "talking about here, right? And and try"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "to get a good idea of what it means. The"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "next question to ask is so what?"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> So like, okay, maybe we we're trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "see what this text means. Does this word"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "specifically mean this or something"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "else? Those are wonderful debates to"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "have, but then the next step is, you"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "know, like did Jesus really exist? Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "And it sounds like you're you're kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "not taking a position on that, which is"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "fine. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> no, I don't take any positions. This"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "text says Jesus was making Mary blow him"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "and he tried to make the apostles do the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "same thing after this and they didn't."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "And it says they didn't follow him after"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "that point."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Okay. So, so do you believe that really"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "happened?"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> I don't have to believe anything. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "a text I'm talking about."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> No, no, no. Okay, we're we're having a"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "disconnect here."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> Science is not This is science."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> No, it's a text."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> I don't have to believe science is a"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "text. I don't have to believe in"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "chlorine. I know chlorine text lie. I"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "don't know if you know this, but"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "sometimes texts lie. Actually, usually"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "lie."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Yeah. No, you can be that guy could be"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "lying out his butt. Epic church bishop."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "He can be lying out his back. Plato's"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the biggest [ __ ] liar on the planet."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> He's quoting people. So he's not is the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "biggest liar on the planet."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Oh, sure. Plato admits to it right up"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "front."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> So, no, that's a part of the text, but"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "I'm still going to tell you what Plato"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> Sure. I 100% agree with that. But then I"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "don't agree that that it's not"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "worthwhile or that we can just wave our"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "hands and say, \"Well, so what?\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "\"Did this really happen?\""}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> And and what you're saying right now is"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "that that that"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> you don't believe this happened."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> You don't necessarily believe this"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "happened or it doesn't matter to you"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "because you're more text based, which I"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "I respect text. matters. Somebody"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "somebody wrote this down and that's our"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "evidence."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> So, let me let me tell you how I see"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "this. Again, it's a 4th century text"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "from a from a Christian guy who is"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "trying to explain what some what he"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "calls heretical Christians believe."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Okay?"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> This is not coming from outside the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "church. This is coming from inside the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "church. And and he's saying these are"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "some Christians with what we would today"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "kindly call diverse beliefs. But that"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "that sounds too positive for what he's"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "trying to do here. I think um he's"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "saying these are weirdos. Yeah. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> these are heretics. These are people who"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "who don't know who Jesus is, but they"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "think they know who Jesus is. And they"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "tell stories, okay? They tell stories"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "about Jesus doing some weird stuff with"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Mary. All right? That that most other"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Christians, including this guy, Epanius,"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "are not going to believe. And and so,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "so, you know, we can kind of back away"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "from that. Now, this is where biblical"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "theologians would say, \"Well, we know"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "what Jesus did and he did this and he"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "didn't do But as a historian, I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "actually still interested, not from a"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "biblical theologian perspective, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "still interested in trying to get back"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "to the historical Jesus. Like, and I do"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "believe there was really a historical"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Jesus who really did walk the earth, and"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "we could talk more about him."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> So, so that's the question that remains."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "So, you know, on on on on your YouTube"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "channel, you bring up texts like this,"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "but then I think you kind you you leave"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "the question hanging as to like whether"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "this is true or not."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Because I'm not I'm only there to"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "present evidence, the court. Let the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "viewer figure out whether or not"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> they think it's true."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> When I'm a pure pure classicist, I only"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "want the philology. That's all I want."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Classicists are also interested in what"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "really happened. Yeah. Are we?"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> We are. But the the actual surgery like"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "a surgeon, sure the surgeon has a morals"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "to them. What matters is that surgery,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "that technique, you know, it's an art"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "and you have to do it right. And that's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "all I'm saying. When when you go to the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Bible and you see terms that are related"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "and you see episodes that are related"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "and Paul's saying throughout your book,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "your magic books and in Jude he's saying"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "don't do this"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "stuff, this idolatry that involves the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "pharmarmacaya. Don't do it. That's"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "sexual stuff. Don't Paul's like stop"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "[ __ ] your family members. Right. And"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> stepmother. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> Alexandria. In Alexandria, what are what"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "are they persecuting Christians for?"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Incest, right? They go to their"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "ceremonies, they put out the lights,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "everybody disroes, and they screw. Why?"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Because these fluids are life. They're"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "life. This is the salvation,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "right? This is what Epipanius is trying"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "to say, hey, this is uh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "within Christianity. It's this this is a"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "movement. And just like Jude said, don't"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "do this stuff."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Okay, so"}]

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And"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "other people I've had on here, experts"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "I've asked the same thing and uh they"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "all say that that the Greek in the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Septuagent was I one guy Gad Bar said it"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "was Jewish Greek."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Um some people say it's coin a Greek."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> It is Jewish. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> it's Jewish."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> It's Wait, wait. Are you going to say"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "it's Jewish Greek?"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Why don't you make your case and then"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "make your case. Make your case. Lay it"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "out for folks who aren't familiar with"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "this. People that may not even know what"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "the Septuagent is."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Sure. So, I'm not actually the first"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "person to say this, nor am I the only"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "person. Um, there was a Jewish scholar"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "uh Yehuda, Dr. Yehuda, who wrote a book"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "called Hebrew is Greek. And in it, he"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "takes the or he takes the triliteral"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "roots that you find in the Hebrew. And"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "then he shows you the Greek from which"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "that term was derived. So um and he"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "shows you through the use of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "colloquialisms you uh euphemisms"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "that um the Hebrew is actually being"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "constructed around the Greek. and he's"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "he wrote his book Hebrew is Greek in the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "80s I think it was 70s 80s something"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "like that and of course you can imagine"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "it did a dive because if if that's the"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "case um everything that we know about"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "biblical scholarship is wrong completely"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "wrong there is a rabbi who came forward"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "do you have oh there it is do you have"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "and there he's talking about the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Spartans and the Greek um that the Jews"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "are actually from Sparta and and uh"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Cree. Anyway, um"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "can you Steve, did you get the video"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "clip, the short clip that I sent you"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "last night?"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, I got it."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> Yeah. This is Rabbi"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Right. Tia, right? Let's see here what"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "he says. I'll be quiet."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> The key is that Christians are appealing"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "to a Septuagent, a Greek translation."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "A translation can never be superior to"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the original. This"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "in any western court, the law of best"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "evidence states that an original"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "document in its original language is"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "always superior to any translation. So"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "this is a"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> a specious argument. But"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> he he is exactly right. A translation"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "cannot be"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "um superior."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> To be clear, he is saying the Septuagen"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "is a translation,"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> right? He's saying the Septu"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "translation, right? So it the the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Septuagen should be a step down from the"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Hebrew original because in the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "translation process you lose"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "information. You never gain information."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "You never get a more technical document"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> from a translation because"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> because the translation is not adding."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> You can always add stuff anytime you"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "translate anything."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> Well, you can, but you're you're not"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "translating. You're you're then"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> a lot of the Septuagent is an"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "embellishment of the original Hebrew."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "You're embellishing."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Yeah. So, what I'm saying is exactly"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "what you're saying doesn't happen does"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "happen with the subtit. Okay. Go on."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> So, his his premise is the superior form"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "is the original. Who decides superior"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "form?"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Who? I'll show you right now. Let's look"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "at an actual text. Hit it, Steve, with"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the Greek text there. This is from"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Genesis 1:2. This is from Genesis 1:2."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "This one,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> the one with the Yep, there you go. The"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "whole verse is in the middle. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "earth was a ors and a sktos. The earth"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "was King Jamesy without form and void."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Kaisotos in the darkness was upon the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "deep. They'll say the abyss and the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "spirit of God hovered there over the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "waters. Now look at the two words that"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "the earth is in the beginning. The earth"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "was aorotos in Greek and a skostos."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "If you look up those words just because"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "you want to know what they are. Next"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "slide, Steve."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> If you look them up, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "see. Right. Here we go. Look at the just"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "tell me really quick. Akata scosto not"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "properly prepared and after that you"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "they give a reference to a pharmarmacon"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "right this word is used for synthetic"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "drugs right these are unworked"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "principles"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "look at kestos"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "below it that's without the alpha"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "primitive on the front so the alpha"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "primitive just negativizes the word so"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "what is something that is kastos it's"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "artificial ial. It's created or"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "artificial. Okay. So, the earth is"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "not prepared, not created, not yet"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "synthesized. Look at the bottom. Aortos."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "What else is the earth? It's unseen or"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "invisible. I want you to drop down to"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "the second line and look at to aoron."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "What is it when you take the substantive"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "of this adjective? It's an unseen"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "world. And right after that, you get"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "exuranu."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Do you understand me? This is a part of"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Greek physics that you're looking at"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "this word aoratoss"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "ga and uranos are part of it. Are you"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "ready? Give me the next one. Wait, let"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "me finish. Give me the next after that."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Here's the verb because everything comes"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "from the verb. What does the Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "version"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "Okay, let's see. Is this superior or"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "inferior? Look at the Hebrew version. An"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "empty place. This is to for a does this"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "does the tr was the translator on dope."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "If this went from Hebrew and this means"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "an emptiness it how did it get to aors?"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "You couldn't have. Somebody's on dope or"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Hebrew is less sophisticated. Clearly"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "look at the next word for aatastos."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Boho. Are you kidding? They just took"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "toe and made it into a bow. And what do"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "they got here again? Emptiness."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "This Hebrew is not original. It is being"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "constructed from the Greek. It is a"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "terrible, terrible attempt to make a"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "native translation out of a language"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "that is so far sophisticated. Greek has"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "1.5 million word forms. Hebrew has 7,000"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "unique words."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "It can't compete. Okay, I'll stop there."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "You respond now."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> Okay, thank you."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "So again, let's let's examine our priors"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "here. In other words, what are we sort"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "of assuming? You're assuming as as you"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "go through this number one, that you can"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "make a judgment as to which language is"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "more superior, which is very debatable."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "But let's let's just say for the sake of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "argument that you're right that somehow"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Greek is more superior than ever, which"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "no linguist would"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> technically superior, that it's more"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "advanced, that it's more descriptive,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "has a bigger vocabulary. Greek has the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "philosoph the philosophical tra"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "tradition by this point, right? And so"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "the the translator who who must be"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "fluent in both Hebrew and Greek to do"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "this translation is probably a Jewish"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "person who knows Greek"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> uh because nothing else really makes"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "sense."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> And this is a person probably in"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Alexandria, which is a center of Greek"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "philosophical learning, right? And this"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Jewish guy who knows Greek and maybe"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Greek is even his native language. Of"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "course it is"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> because because he's in a Jewish"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "colonial context just like a Jew in the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "United States today would have English"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "as their native language. Doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "them any less Jewish. Doesn't mean that"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "they haven't been to synagogue and learn"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> 100%. I get it."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> Um so this this guy is familiar with the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Greek philosophical tradition. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "when he's translating these words, he is"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "embellishing them. He's absolutely"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "embellishing them. He's taking the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Hebrew and by the way to wabohu. We"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "don't even know to this day exactly what"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "this means. Okay? Like there there have"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "been so many books written on just these"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "few words and it's it's and clear."}]

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So, okay. what"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Hebrew literature is there outside of"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> let's say that your theory is right that"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "that the Greeks or Jewish you know Greek"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "speaking Jews or whatever in Alexandria"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "which is probably where this is being"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "written the Septuagent um are are"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "inventing this language you think"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "they're inventing it in Alexandria in"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "the 3rd 2nd century BC"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> definitely"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> okay so if that were true there should"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "be no Hebrew before that"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> there should be no literature at all"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "there should be nothing it"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> you have a problem because there is"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Hebrew before What is the Hebrew?"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> The archaeological evidence. We have a"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "lot of archaeological evidence."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> Scribblings."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> No, it's not. It's okay."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> You have no work. You have no it's it."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "You go to and look at they talk about"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "the amulets. You go and look at these"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "things. It looks like it could be an"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "olive. It it must be it must be Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "or No, it's protoheebrew. You have no"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "works. Like Danny just said, you have no"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "works in Hebrew."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Let's see what here. Let's hear what he"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "has to say about it. Amen. We have the"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "priestly blessing which is in the book"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "of numbers attested from an"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "archaeological dig dated to the 7th"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "century BC. Amen."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Yeah. You have"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> that's 500 years before the Septuition."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "You have that Hebrew text"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "that Hebrew radically predates."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> You have the text."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> You can go look it up. It was an arch"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "numbers on a"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> It was an archaeological date written on"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "the entire book of Numbers."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> No, I said I said three verses. The"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "priestly blessing in Numbers. Let's look"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "this up. Let's look this up. Look up,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "look upf."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "That's fantastic."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> K E T E F"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> H I N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "N N N O O M. Two words. Yeah. Yeah. Uh"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "space kf space."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> H I Yeah, it is. Kfenome girls."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Go to all."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> This is the silver. It's written on"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "silver."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> And it's written in Paleo Hebrew. There"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "it is. Priestly blessing from number"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "six."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> I think it's in paleo"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "paleb two tiny."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Well, I mean it's a theory because it's"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "true. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> No. No. What is Paleo Hebrew? Explain to"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "the people what Paleo Hebrew is. And"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "what are your documents that are in"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Paleo?"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> Right here. Here's one of them. Three"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "lines from a silver from a silver plate."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> One of thousands. Okay. So, there is"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "PaleoHebrew. Everyone agrees that"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "PaleoHebrew is an alphabet that was used"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "in in pre-exilic time. So, leading up to"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "the destruction of Jerusalem by the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Babylonians in 586 BC."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> They used a different alphabet than they"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "used later. And this is what it looks"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> This is what it looks like. That's paleo"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Hebrew."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> That's silver. That's silver"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> in written. So, can you zoom in a little"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "bit more, Steve?"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> So, to waboo is in there or"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> No, of course not. That's not the verse."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "It's a priest blessing."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> So, that scribbling is Hebrew."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> That's Hebrew. Yeah. And it's something"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "that's in the Bible. It's something in"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "the Hebrew Bible that already is found"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "in an archaeological dig from from"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "earlier than 600 BC. So, it it predates"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the Septuagent by hundreds of years."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "They're already writing Hebrew. They're"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "already writing stuff that's in the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Bible. They're already inscribing it."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "and and on scrolls maybe keeping it with"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "them maybe as an amulet"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> in pale what is paleohebrew"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> paleo Hebrew is this alphabet we're"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "looking at here"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> this is an alphabet"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> that's an alphabet alphabet gimmel dal"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> that's the yeah it's an abjad"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "technically"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> it's the exact alphabet of the"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> it's an abjad the what we call a"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "different script but it's the exact same"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "alphabet yeah"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> yeah and they're sure it's completely"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "been identified as Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> it's very clear I see a Hebrew reition I"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "see a Hebrew rendition but they for"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "certain. Wait. And they base that on"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "what? It's just from this one."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> There's [clears throat] thousands of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "these thousand."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> This is just the most famous one."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> But there's no Is there a translation of"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "this from antiquity? I mean, how do we"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "It's an archaeological saying they"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "didn't put English translations in the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "arch. Is how do we know that that's the"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "line from the text that we have"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> because it's the exact same word from"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "somebody put that somebody put you think"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "it was planted."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> But you No, no."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "I'm talking they do the same thing with"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Phoenician,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> right? They do exact same thing about"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "guessing what the letters are. And"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "that's why when they find an"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "inscription,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> they guess that it's either Hebrew or"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Protohebrew at the time that this is"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "being written. What's the date on the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "silver?"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Yeah. 700."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Yeah. 7th century BC. It was found"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> 600 BC. 600 BC. How many"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> That's the consensus. H um how much how"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "much uh literature is there being"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "generated that is from this protohebrew?"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Who what other cultures are referring to"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "protohebrew? It's none."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Uh there's several cultures around them"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "that refer to Israel and refer to"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "specific [clears throat] kings of Israel"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "that are in the Bible."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> They think they found the name Israel in"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "an inscription."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> They found it multiple times. I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "think anybody debates that except you"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "apparently."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> What is the Israel? Where does it come"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "from? What's the You're a Semitic. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Where does the word Israel come from?"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it's a Semitic word. It"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "looks like a verb, um, but it's a name,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "of course. So, Semitic names are often"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "compounds of a verb and a noun. And the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "L at the end is God almost certainly,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "right? The yer part looks like a third"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "singular masculine Semitic verb. There's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "debate about which verb it would come"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "from, but it might mean God rules or he"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "struggles with God or God struggles with"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "somebody. Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> That's that that's the traditional"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "etmology. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> Okay. What literature do we have in it"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "that you just gained that insight from?"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Where is the evidence?"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> Yeah. So, here here's I think the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "methodological problem. You're saying"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "that if a culture got destroyed and and"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "and the the pre-exilic Israelite and"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Judeian kingdoms got destroyed. Well,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "no. The people the kingdoms got"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "destroyed by the Assyrians in 721 BC and"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "then the Babylonians in 586 BC."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> They had a they had a an apocalypse"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "essentially. those those nations, those"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "ethnicities had an apocalypse where"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "these foreign empires rolled in and"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "destroyed them. They just leveled their"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "cities to the ground. Jerusalem was"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "leveled to the ground in 586 BC. They"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "burned Jerusalem to the ground in 586"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "BC. And so what happened when Jerusalem"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "specifically was burned to the ground in"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "586 BC? Guess where all the texts went?"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Burned, gone. They got burned"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "silver is what we have."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> The silver survived and this was, I"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "think, yeah, it was buried and it was"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "outside of Jerusalem. So it wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "have been caught in the fire. It was in"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "a library."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> They would have had libraries that got"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "burned just like the library. They"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "almost certainly did."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> Full of Hebrew libraries."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Almost certainly almost certainly got"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "burn certainly or they did. That's a big"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "difference."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. Almond, let's back up and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "talk about methodology again because I I"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "want to I want to make sure I want to"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "know if they li where this language was"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "preserved."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Keep our eye on the ball."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> We've already said two hours ago at this"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "point that we don't know much about the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "ancient world. So what we're what we're"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "dealing with usually is probabilities. I"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "like to think this from like the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "perspective of a Vegas gambler."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> We don't know. You know, if you're"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "gambling on something in Vegas, you"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "don't know for sure what's going to"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "happen or whatever, but you have"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "probabilities. Okay? You can say, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "it's most likely or it's less likely."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "And so, I'm going to put money on things"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "that are more likely.\" And so, we have"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "probabilities. So, you're asking me for"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "a 100% probability of something that"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "happened 3,000 years ago."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> Evidence. Ask for evidence."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> This It's right up on the screen. Here's"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the evidence. This is somebody's"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "interpretation of what that is. That is"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "not the evidence. You don't what I am"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "telling to you is if this is hold this"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "language is being used at the time if"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "this language is being used at the time"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "what other surrounding peoples and"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "cultures record it"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": ">> I just told you there's multiple ones"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "but the problem is that those same same"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "empires that rolled in and destroyed"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Jerusalem destroyed those other cultures"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "too"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "so are you saying the Greeks weren't"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "doing anything over there"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "hold are you saying that the Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "writing on the right,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> correct,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> is not accurate to what's on the silver."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> How do we know that it's accurate? I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "questioning the evidence of the people"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "who made this translation or"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "interpretation of what it is because"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "what other documents are they using? Do"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "they have That's why I asked, do they"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "have libraries? You can't do this with"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Greek. There's no guesswork about what"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "it is. There's no guess Hebrew versus"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "No,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Greeks had different alphabets. No, at"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "this time you say this thing is"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "existing."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> There's Greek works all over the place."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Society is run. Yeah. Guess what?"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> By that Greek work."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> You know what the Greeks avoided?"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Getting burned to the ground by the"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Persians, which almost happened in 480."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Okay. So, if the Greeks had not managed"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "to fight off those two Persian"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "invasions, we'd probably be in the same"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "position with Greek literature where it"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "would have all got burned to the ground"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "and then we'd be in this position where"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "all we would all the Greek we would have"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "is digging up stuff and archaeological"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "dig. guess,"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> we'd be in a difficult position. We"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "always have to guess,"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> but when the Christians"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> anything we do is guessing for the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "ancient world, we don't know anything"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "for sure."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> I hate to guess, but when the um when"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Greek lost its began to lose its glory,"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "as the oracle shut down and as the 4th"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "century lurched over its loss of its"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "pagan origin, um the language was"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "affected and you see that. But the whole"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "in the influence of the Byzantine Greek,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the problem is throughout the use of the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Greek, we've got Greek gramarians,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "we've got Greek scientists who are"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "working on the language. Right? What I"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "am saying here is at the time that the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Greeks are doing that and noting these"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "other histories and these other"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "societies around them and forming"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "anthropologies and explanations of"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "history of the cultures around them."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Nobody ever encounters anything like"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "this. The only reference that we have to"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "anything Semitic is the Phoenician. And"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "we know the connection to the Phoenician"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "that that the Greeks even argued"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "themselves that the Phoenician was not"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "responsible for Greek. There's a Greeks"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "to say it was and Greeks to say it"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "wasn't for the alphabet. Right? So this"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "is theoretical. There's no contemporary"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "documentation of any of this. This could"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "be somebody sitting in the desert"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "copying out BS"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> and then planting it in the ground for"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "an archaeological dig to be dated to 600"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "BC. Do you realize how you're getting"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "into like what I'm saying is planted?"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "That's why I hate ideas. We if we stick"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "with the text, what I'm saying is this"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "thing that you've got here just showed"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "up in a vacuum."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> It showed up out of the ground."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> We Where does this paleo Where does this"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "PaleoHebra come from? Did they build"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "buildings? Did they? If they got to this"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "level of writing, they must have"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "structures. They must have history and"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "archaeology. Where is it for this?"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> This is the archaeology."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> It's not this coming out of the ground."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Not the archaeology."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> It's coming from the archaeologists who"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "found it in the ground when they were"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "doing an archaeology."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> Everything has to start somewhere."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> Right. But when you find, let me tell"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "you what I'm talking about. When you"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "find when you're doing a Greek site, for"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "example, and you find Greek writing, the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Greek writing builds for you. exactly"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "what's going on. You see those columns,"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "you see this type of architecture, you"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "see what they're using, the mathematics,"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "they're in these Greek texts. This is an"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "isolation. It's got no relatry works."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": ">> It's just sitting there by itself. There"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "were they didn't find anything with"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "this. Wait, they didn't find anything"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "with this"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> that um was a building dedicated to some"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "guy with using this in his name,"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> using this alphabet. There's so much"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "stuff in this alphabet."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> It's widespread. It's widespread. This"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "alphabet is very common,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> right? But it wasn't in a building with"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "a dude's name on it that was using the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "same."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> There's a lot of stuff with dudes names"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "on them in this alphabet that has been"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "found in archaeological digs from the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "6th to the 10th century BC."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> Cities that use this protohebrew."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> Yeah, it's widespread"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> as they're like in Israel. In Israel and"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "they have lies. Yeah. Jerusalem."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> And they have And there's libraries in"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Jerusalem."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> They were burned to the grounds."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> There's li by the Babylonians."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> Okay. So was Herculadium. We still have"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "the We still have a ton."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> And then and then they built a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "stuff on top of it. I don't know if you"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> That's no evidence. You're not giving me"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "any evidence."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": ">> I just don't think you're willing to"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "look at the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> isolation. This is in complete"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "isolation."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> You don't like the evidence. And so"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "you're discounting it. That's all that's"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "happening here."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> It's not the the thing that really"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "bothers me is that there is no Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "literature. When you talk outside the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Torah, there is no Hebrew documentation."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "There are no Hebrew doctors. There's no"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Hebrew architecture. There's no He"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Hebrew geometry. There's no Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "anything"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> because it got burned to the ground."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> Everything."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": ">> So, you're saying they should have just"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "done a better job of not getting burned"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "to the ground?"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> You're saying everything got lost of any"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Hebrew writing anytime."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> Only the only remnants were there was a"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "small group of captives after the city"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "got burned to the ground and lots of"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "people got slaughtered and taken into"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "slavery by the Babylonians. That's not"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "how of course that's how life works."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "That's how allianc"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "there's a small there's a small group of"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "people who were taken into captivity by"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "the Babylonians to Babylon and they"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "could only carry anything they could"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "carry."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": ">> They carried their most sacred text and"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "that's all that survived that"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "conflration that civilizational"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "conflration. That's all they kept."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> That doesn't mean they didn't have more."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "In fact, they almost certainly had more."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "It's gone."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": ">> And they're the only culture that that"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "happened to because of course they're"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "not the only culture that happened."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> The language the language will survive."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "did survive. You just don't want to see"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> It survived in the Torah. It survived in"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the Hebrew Bible and it survived in the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "ground."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> That's all you've got."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> Okay. You just made a you just made a"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "statement that is false and that is this"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "is the only culture that's happened to."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Of course, it's not the only culture"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "that's happened to. Tell let's talk"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "about the Persians. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> Let's talk about the Persians. The"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "Persian Empire was far mightier, far"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "more scientifically advanced than the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Hebrews."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": ">> Do we have classical Persian?"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> We have inscriptions. We have the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Behistune inscription. And then we have"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "a few things from Herodatus where he's"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "transliterating words from Persian. We"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "have contemporaries. We have"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "contemporaries talking about the"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "language."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": ">> We have talking about that's exactly"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "what I'm talking about. We have no"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Herodotus who can say there is Paleo"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Hebrew. Yes. We've got the Persian."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "We've got the Phoenician 200 years after"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": ">> All of these like Well, I'm saying and a"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "dude like Heroditus"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "for this. You're wrong about that, too."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "You're wrong about that, too. The"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Nebuchadnezzar chronicle has been"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "discovered in Babylon. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Nebuchadnezzar was the most powerful"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "king of Babylon. He from 605 to 562 BC"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "he was the guy who came over and burned"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Jerusalem to the ground with his armies."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "This is historians generally accept"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": ">> We have found his chronicle. So most"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "kings would would write a chronicle of"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "the things that were ongoing during"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "their reign that they thought was"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "important enough to be kept for future"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "generations. We found his chronicle uh"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "from 605 to 594 BC. Unfortunately, it"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "cuts off in 594 because we just haven't"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "found the rest or maybe it got shattered"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "or lost or something. In his chronicle,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "he talks about Jerusalem and the Jews in"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "his chronicle that has been found from"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "that time period. So when Ammon says"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "there's no other records, he's wrong"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "about that because King Nebuchadnezzar,"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "the most powerful king in the world at"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "that time, talks about them. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": ">> it's in the chronicle."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> And he says, I'm going over there to"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "talk about them. There it is right"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": ">> Confirming biblical accounts of his"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "conquest of Jerusalem in 597 BC, the"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "deposition of King Johiken and the"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "installation of Zedekiah. It's all"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "there."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Almond's biggest claim is that Christ is"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "a pharmaceutical term. Correct?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> Now, uh, the case Amen makes, and"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "correct me if I'm wrong, is the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "original, the first time the word Christ"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "was ever used in Greek"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "was from Homer and it's been used"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "hundreds of times before Jesus Christ."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Correct. And Ammon specializes in"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "ancient pharmarmacology and ancient"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "pharmacy. And he uses that context to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "corroborate all of this other historical"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "writing we have from Homer and"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "everything else. Talking about Christing"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "arrows with poisons and all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Christing, right? Applying something to"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "the skin, to the eyes, to to an arrow,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "to something else. And he's taking that"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "and connecting it to Jesus Christ,"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "saying that"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "he Jesus was someone who was known and"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "was uh connected to drugs. Is that is"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "that about right?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Correct. Yes. Mhm. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I we have the reference. Bring up"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Odysius. It's a gorgeous picture. So, he"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "has tons of references and he sent us in"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "our group chat a whole list of read"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "hundreds of references. Just to make a"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "long story short, you can tell by having"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "read all those references and you've"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "read hundreds. I sent you over a"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "hundred."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> If you search for all the compounds of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Christing, you're going to find"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "thousands and thousands. There's this is"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "like not an unusual word. That's why"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "when Bartman came along and said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "doubt if Christing came before the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Septuagent,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "why he looks so bad because"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "it's a it's overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "the history of this word. Biblical"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "scholars have no idea what Christing is."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "They don't know it's an actual drug."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "They don't know the action of Christing"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "as somebody applying a drug. They don't"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "know that"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "is associated with oystrus,"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the sting of the gadfly that the Greeks"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "had established in mental mental"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "changes, frustration, craziness, mania,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "right? That those are all associated"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "with being Christing. We have it in"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Escalas himself with Io, right? And she"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "says, \"What about this? I'm being"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Christed by this powerful mindaltering"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "thing.\" So from from the arguments I've"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "heard against Ammon, me using my my best"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "judgment is that what most people"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "believe is that Christing was applying"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "something. It could have been drugs. It"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "could have been a roof. It could have"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "been uh a coating underneath a ship to"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "make ships more buoyant. They would"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Christ them painting something."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Um [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> yes, it was drugs. It was lots of other"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "things, but they don't believe that"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Christ had anything to do with this"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "word. Similar to your Dick Dick Cheney,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "uh, and"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> pulling on Dick Nixon."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Dick Nixon, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> That seems to be the general uh push"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "back to"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> but thinks Christing was exclusively"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "drugs."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> No, no, no. It definitely wasn't"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "exclusive plaster. No, see, here's the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "thing. I don't come all sorts of things."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": ">> I don't come up with ideas. I just read"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "the text. Now in the overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "majority it's drugs. You can Christ"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "plaster Heraclitus Christed"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "himself with with poop, right? Dung. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "there's all sorts of things. You can"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Christ a ship with a pitch so that or so"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "that it's not waterproof. Right."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> Um but the overwhelming majority are"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "drugs. And the texts that I read are"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "talking about the use over and over. And"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "even texts like um uh notice did notice"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "this paraphrase of John. He talks about"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "the antidote that's the Greek word right"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> that was given to Jesus when he was on"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "the cross. So this is not the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "association of Christing. You can Christ"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "your penis. There's a very well-known"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "saters right where you Christ the penis"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and you introduce that Christ penis to"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "the vagina and that process is to"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "kickstart the mystery. It's a bachic"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "satanic chorus. You didn't know did you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "know in Greek that you have the"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "expression the bak satanic chorus?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> I mean Satan is a Jewish idea not a"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Greek idea. So what are you talking"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "about? Do you I'm asking you did you"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "know that there is a Greek text that"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "uses the Greek term bak satanic chorus?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> I'd have to see the text and I think you"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "would agree with it. It's probably not"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "the time."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> All right, here's the point. Here here's"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the point. Here's my question. Are you"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "just saying it's overwhelmingly"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "associated with drugs because you"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "specialize in drugs and read drug text"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "or have you looked through everything?"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "I'm saying performing a TLG search on"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "everything that we've got on Christing."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "The overwhelming majority are drug"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "associated."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> That should be pretty easy to prove or"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "disprove, right? With the TLG."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Okay. So, do you think inject is a drug"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "term?"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> Uh the English term."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Inject. Yeah, English inject."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> Um I think it's um pharmaceutically"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "associated."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> I agree. I agree. Yeah. So, it's a term"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "that is often used in drug contexts."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "It's also used in other contexts like"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "let me inject myself into this"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "conversation."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> Right. Right. Correct. And so the the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "verb creo in Greek is the same way."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> Okay. It can be used in various terms"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "because it means to apply something"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "apply something to the surface of"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "something else. So if you're applying an"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "ointment, which is a medicine, which"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "could be called a drug, then sure, if"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "you want to call that a drug term, go"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "for it. I'm not going to argue with you"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "on that. and and and and you have all"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "these references where where there's"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "some kind of ointment, some applied, you"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "know, medicine drug, pharmarmacon,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> That's fine."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> There was he said was it a what was it?"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Was it a potable or a Christ?"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> What kind of drug is it? He says in in"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "apolitus, is it a Christ or is it a"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> Is it one that is anointed? In other"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "words, smeared on like an unwintent"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> or is it one that you drink? Those are"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "two main different kinds of drugs,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "right? There's also a [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "big catch. You probably didn't catch"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "this or you did and you went past it cuz"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "you accepted the common modern notion in"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Greek. The expression in"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "right is coupled with yesu a genative"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "form of Jesus in the Christ of Jesus. It"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "every time it occurs in Paul it's in the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Bible in general it's translated as but"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Paul uses it most. translated as in"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Jesus Christ. We have faith in Jesus"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Christ. We have this in Jesus Christ."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "The problem is that genative is just a"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "genative and nowhere else in Greek are"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "you going to translate that as part of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "that datative. So it literally should be"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "translated in the Christ of Jesus."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Jesus was performing the mystery openly."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "The fact that he is casting out demons"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "is perfect perfect evidence of that. He"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "knows these terms or he wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "called the one who was Christed and"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "there wouldn't be a naked kid with a"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "medicated bandit."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> I think we're getting ahead of ourselves"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "here wi with him there."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> So, do you think Christ knew spoke Greek"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "or knew Greek at all?"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Probably not. No."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> Oh my god. Oh my god. Right. Who knew"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Hebrew? If there's that much Hebrew,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> he didn't speak Hebrew. spoke about and"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "if there's that much Hebrew then there"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "would have been documents left this"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "magical disappearance of all the Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "lit we're not talking about Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "anymore we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> so if you you agree you agree with Luke"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "that Christing was similar to the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "English word inject Christ was similar"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "to inject"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> inject is commonly associated today as"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "injecting something into your body but"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "you can also use other word I would say"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "it's overwhelmingly associated with a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "syringe right obviously but you can use"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "that uh expression for other things like"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "a conversation or whatever."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> If you could expand it to inject,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> would you agree with him on that?"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> When you say inject though, you're not"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "including things like injection. What is"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "the substance that Christ becomes the"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "substance as opposed to the act of"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Christing?"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> So inject"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "maybe injection injection. Okay, I see"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "what you're saying. And then you have"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "like fuel injection engines,"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Which doesn't have to do with drugs, but"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "has to do with something else. We're"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "being put into something else, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Yeah. I think we agree on that mostly."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> So where do we disagree here?"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> Yeah. So so this is an important thing"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "that you just brought up which there's"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "different parts of speech. There's"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "inject, there's injection, there's past"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "participles, there's present"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "participles. Um you have this verb creo"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "in Greek which is a well understood"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "verb. There's you can make a present"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "participle participle out of it. Uh in"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "English our present participle ending is"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "ing right? So you are anointing if we"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "just use the sort of whatever term"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "anointing. anointing like I am anointing"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "my body with some drug or olive oil what"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "it doesn't matter um and then there's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the past participle which means you have"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "been anointed right"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> okay um I want to use the word to ju"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "just to kind of to to to um make this"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "this point here I want to use the word"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "bite which is a different word but the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "the reason I'm using this word is is"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "going to become clear specifically in"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "English our past tense like I I anointed"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "my body yesterday and the past"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "participle my body has been anointed are"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "often identical with most verbs but"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "that's confusing the point because in"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Greek they're not identical as as ammon"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> because Greek is sexy."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Because because thinks Greek is"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "superior which I love Greek too. So"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "whatever. So I'm using bite because"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "because in English bite is one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "relatively small number of verbs where"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "the past tense is different from the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "past participle. I bit into a a cake"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "yesterday but I have been bitten. So so"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "bitten is the past participle. If you"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "were in a state of having been bitten,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "then you were already bit and you you"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "have you know been resulted from that"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "action like I've I was bitten by and I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "going to get in this. I was bitten by a"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "vampire. I was not that's not a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "confession but that's you know that's"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that's how we would use the term right."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "So bite bit bitten biting is the present"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "participle bitten is the past"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "participle. So the first point I want to"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "make is that is and this you know this"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "is I just want to make it clear because"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "I'm here to call balls and strikes and I"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "think people people know you know this"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "this is the simplest grammatical thing"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "in the world Christing is not a word in"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Greek"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> and the and let me explain because I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "not accusing you of anything super I"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "just explaining here all right"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> Christo is is a past participial form of"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "creo"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> so the cre and Christos is the verb part"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "the toast part at the end is a past"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "participle it means yeah like bitten"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "exactly like bitten is one who has been"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "anointed. A christose can be one who has"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "been anointed or a drug like like in the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "in"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> Jesus the Christ did right."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> We're going to get there. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "get there. We're going to get there."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "It's somebody who has been had an action"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "an action of anointing that has done to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "them. So I I just again I just want to"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "make clear that that you that the ing"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "ending"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> is the present participle and you can't"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "mix those two."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> Okay? So when when when Ammon says"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Christing, he's actually taking the T of"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the past participle and then putting a"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "present participle onto it. And you will"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "never find that form in Greek."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> No, I'm making an English word."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> Correct. Yeah. You're making a neism and"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "we deal with neologisms all the time. So"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "I just want to make it clear"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": ">> just because I don't want to say anoint"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "because [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> because it sounds like something else is"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "creo. The verb is creo. So just use the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Christ. Just use the root. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> Christy. But the work that that that"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "neologism is doing for you is that it's"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "it's making people who don't know Greek"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "think the connection to Christ is more"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "obvious than it is"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> because that's not a word that's not a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "word in Greek."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> Well, but you're doing the you're making"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the argument without doing the work by"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> if they had read though if this audience"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "that we're talking to that we're right"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "now if they had read all these documents"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "in Greek it's going to hit them like"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "it's hitting."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": ">> Yeah, you can say that all day long but"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "they're never going to do that. So you"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "have to make a case in in something we"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "can understand."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> Right. So this is me calling balls and"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "strikes."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> I'm saying that's not a word in Greek."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "It's based on a true story. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> But it there's no word Christing in"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Greek. All right. Because that's a past"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "participle."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> Christing."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> Christing is not Christing."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> Crying, which is not a word either. I"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "just made it up. With an I."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> How about the participle?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Well, that's also a participle. That's a"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "present mediopassive part."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> It's Christing though. How would you"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "translate that?"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": ">> Being anointed."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> That's what that means. Croinos. True."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I just"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "wanted to establish that hopefully not"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "controversial. I just wanted to make"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "sure that we're all on the same page"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "here so that people understand that that"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that that Ammon has created neologism"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "which he's welcome to as long as we know"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that he's created neogism."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> Okay, let's move on."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> So wait, so does that mean that that the"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "current word is different"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> like that the current so is anointed?"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> So Christ comes from the Greek word"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Christos which is which is a past"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "participial form which means the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "anointed one. The person who has been"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "anointed."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> The person who has been bitten."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> Technically."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Exactly. The person who has been bitten."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Christos means you're bitten. A bitten"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> You've been anointed."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": ">> Anointed. Christed one. Yeah. Except"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Christed. The the anointed one. Again,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "it's anism as long as we're all clear."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "You can use theism. As long as"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> That makes sense. That makes sense."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Cool. Onward."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "to you. What are the biggest"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "misconceptions about the Bible?"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Oh man. Um I I think I think a lot of it"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "comes down to what we were just talking"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Um the these cultural gaps, right? So So"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "a random person uh who who might, you"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "know, go to church every once in a"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "while, consider themselves a Christian,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "probably has never read the Bible,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> like almost at all. Right. I think I"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "think the vast majority of Christians"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "have have have either never read the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Bible or maybe cracked it to a few"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "verses here and there."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Um and and and when you when you do"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that, you are missing the context. And"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "if you crack it to a few verses here and"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "there, you're you're actually missing"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the inter the intrabiblical context. So"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "you can't just pull a verse out of"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "context and say this is what it means. I"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "you can if you're trying to make some"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "spiritual argument for your life, that's"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "whatever. But if you're trying to make"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "an academic argument about what a verse"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "meant, you you have to get your"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "methodology straight. I think one of the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "big things that I learned in grad school"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "is is methodology matters. What is"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "methodology? It's the way that we get"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "from point A to point B. So how do we"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "arrive at what we think we know?"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> How are we going to get there? Um so"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "there are there are sloppy ways of doing"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "methodology. There are more careful ways"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "of doing methodology. Um the scientific"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "method is a classic form of methodology."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "in scientific fields, right, where you"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "can't, if you're doing science, you"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "can't just throw a bunch of data up in"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the air and see how it falls. Like, you"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "have to organize it in a specific way"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "and then go through that data in a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "specific way. Um, so that's really"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "that's important methodology. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "pulling a verse out of context is is bad"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "methodology because what when you do"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "that, you're not being careful to take a"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "look at what's around that verse in the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "same book in the Bible, right? Like, so"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that's the first piece of context is"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "what does this book of the Bible say?"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Not just in this one verse that I like"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "that speaks to me or whatever, but but"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "what does the what does the whole"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "chapter say? What does the whole book"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "say?"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Why was this book written in the first"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "place? Who was it written by?"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> And then you kind of just go out from"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "there because there's these concentric"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "circles of context. the chapter, the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "book, the whole Hebrew Bible or New"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Testament or whatever it is, and then"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "the culture that those works arose in."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "And then the other people who may have,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "you know, agreed or disagreed with"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "what's being written, their their voices"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "are sometimes found"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "hidden in the Bible because sometimes a"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "a lot of the Bible is is arguments"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "between people, you know, like they're"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "arguing about the nature of God or"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "they're arguing about who Jesus really"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "was or things like that, right? Um, so,"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "so those arguments are often times"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "hidden in the Bible and and we do the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Bible a disservice if we try to bury"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "those arguments instead of bringing them"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "to light and and trying to understand"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "what the original authors were living"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "through like what that cultural context"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "was."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> Um, what is your view on I know there's"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "different there's varying opinions, but"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "when would the gospels were written?"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> Yeah. So, you know, I I uh I tend to to"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "take a pretty standard view on this, but"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "I'm open to other ideas. because I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "think anybody knows for sure, but the"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "standard opinion, and you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "interested to hear what Almond thinks,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "but the standard opinion is that Mark is"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "the earliest gospel. Um, there are a"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "couple of reasons for thinking this."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "It's the weirdest gospel."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> It's got it's got some"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Mark 14."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm sure we're going"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "to get into that. It's got some some"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "unexplained like"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> only verse I've ever written in the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Bible, by the way."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> There you go. [laughter] So, you need"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "some context. You need some context."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> It's the only one you need. So, so yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "I'm sure we'll get to the context later"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "since I just, you know, spent five"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "minutes on a soap box about context. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "so yeah, Mark is I probably the earliest"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "gospel. Again, we'll never know this for"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "sure, but we're trying to build theories"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "based on the data, which is which is"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "what we do. By the way, those of us who"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "work with the ancient world, we we"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "always live in a state of uncertainty"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> because because we have a a fairly"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "limited amount of data about everything"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "that happened in the ancient world. And"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "so when we're trying to seek"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "understanding, which is literally our"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "job in our training, we have to have a"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "certain amount of humility. And and"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "you're going to hear me probably say"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "this several times today that that I"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "don't know. Almond might say something"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "and I might say, \"Well, I'm not sure"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "about that, but I can't disprove it"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "either.\""}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> Um it might be right. I don't know. Like"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "let's just I'm going to be humble about"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "it. Um and I'm going to say that maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "we don't have enough evidence either way"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "to decide this and let's just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "look at the evidence we have."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> So So I think there's that. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "instead I'm going to resort to John"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Scarboro's training and I'm just going"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "to look at the primaries."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> Well, that's primary sources to me. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "all that matters. If you ask me the same"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "question of when Mark was dated or when"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the New Testament, I would answer from"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the perspective of reading it and say,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "\"What other texts have I read that are"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "using similar vocabulary and style?\" And"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "from that you can put it straight first"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "to second late first 2 second centuries"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "and it's meshing perfectly with the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "apocryphal. It's using this these texts"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "are using the same vocabulary."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "[sighs and gasps] It's gorgeous. So I"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "would put it look these are second these"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "are second century text."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> That's consensus or or what? the the the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "consensus and again again I'm I'm humble"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> again I hate it when people always fall"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "back on consensus for everything because"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "that's what most people in my experience"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "have done when I ask [ __ ] you know"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> sure yeah the consensus is it was"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "probably written in the 60s like around"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "65"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> oh okay"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> which is last half of the first century"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "of course um the consensus for whatever"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "that's worth is that it was written in"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "the in the years leading up to the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Jewish revolt against the Romans which"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "took place between 66 and 70 which is a"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "watershed event in in Jewish and Roman"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "relation as you can imagine. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> so that would have been Mark."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> That would have been Mark. And then the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "and then again, we're talking the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "consensus here is that Matthew and Luke"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "were a little bit later. Um, again, the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "consensus is that Matthew and Luke use"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Mark as a source because they have a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "of the same material. The three of them,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Mark, Matthew, and Luke are called the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "synoptic gospels, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> Which comes from two Greek words that"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "mean to see together. Sinoptic."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> Um, so they seem they have a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "same material."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> The consensus is that Matthew and Luke"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "already have Mark in front of them. So"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Mark had already been written by the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "time Matthew and Luke are writing their"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "gospels, which can which can help"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "explain why they have so much similar"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "material. Luke, right, in his prologue"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "says, \"I wasn't there, but I' i've done"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "my research and I'm using sources.\" So"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Luke tells us right up front that he is"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "reading earlier material"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> and talking to eyewitnesses because Luke"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "wasn't there. He didn't see Jesus. So So"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Luke tells us right up front he has"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "earlier sources and it seems like Mark"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "was probably one of them. Uh John is"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "kind of off in his own world doing his"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "own thing. Um he he's he he has a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "different material from the other three"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "gospels. Most people date John as the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "latest one maybe in the '9s but some"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "people would put it later. Um Matthew"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and Luke maybe being in the 70s or 80s."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "But again I think I think these are all"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "estimates. Um what what Almond said"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "about looking at the text is always good"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "but then of course what's our"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "methodology? How like how are we looking"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "at the text? What kind of connections"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "are we making? It's it's useful to do"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "what you said. I I absolutely agree."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "It's useful to do what you said, but it"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "doesn't necessarily uh it's not"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "necessarily slam dunk either because"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "because you can copy style, right? So"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "like for instance, I can read a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Shakespeare, which we know was written"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "over 400 years ago, and I could write a"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Shakespearean play in Shakespearean"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "style right now if I if I, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "bathe my mind in Shakespearean weirdo,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> Well, I am I am a weirdo. [laughter] I"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "am a weirdo. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> you guys are two weirdos wearing"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "sunglasses. I no comment. No, I"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "[laughter] haven't. No, I haven't. But I"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "could I could. And that's the point,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "right? So So you're right that that that"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "that we can look at similar styles and"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "similar vocab, but that can be"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "counterfeited."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> By me, I could write a lost Shakespeare"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "play"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> tomorrow and I could make it look pretty"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "realistic."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> One of the best tools when you're"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "looking at just the language is the use"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "of quotes. So you know that Paul for"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "example quotes media ultimately"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "throughout"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> Paul has a lot of classical quotes."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> He seems to be a classically trained"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "individual. those influences can be the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Apostle Paul."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> Apostle Paul th those influences can be"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "read in the language"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> because for example just the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "[clears throat] dialect wise you can"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "tell that somebody's been reading um the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Ionian physicians"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "by the dialect that they're referring to"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "if they're using technical terms. So"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "ancient Greek is so gorgeous in so many"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "ways. One of the ways is that you can"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "trace the influences of the person who's"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "writing that text through the language"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "that they're using. And so that's how um"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "for example you could see people reading"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Neander. I know we talked about Neander"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "a little just mentioned him righties. He"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "is one of the most famous ancient"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "writers. People are quoting him all over"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "the place. Nikander, Nicander, Nicander."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "What we have, you probably never heard"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "of Nik. The hell is Nikander, right?"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> But he's a priest of Apollo who is"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "writing"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "poetry that is wholly"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "medical."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "It is pharmacologically"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "wholly medicinal,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "right? It's polyfarm pharmacy. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "a whole bunch of, you know, if you get"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "this problem, if you bitten by this"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "animal, give this antidote, which is a"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "combination of these eight different"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "plants and in the form of a song that"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "would be transmitted by a priest"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "who is a priest of visionary experience."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "These are pre he's a priest of Apollo"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "Claris, right?"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> So these sources are sitting there all"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "surrounding the Bible. These sources and"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "nobody reads it. It's hard enough to get"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "a classicist to read Nikander. Have you"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "ever read Phileuminous? He's he writes"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "on antidotes and he writes about"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "different"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I haven't. I haven't."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Where the [ __ ] is he? Right. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "people, this is something special about"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Greek. There is so much material. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> a big language."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> There is so much material. It"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> How much in antiquity? How much Greek"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "was there compared to Latin or Hebrew?"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> It's hard to answer that question for"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "sure because we've lost most of all of"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "it. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Like most of the Greek, most of the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Latin, most of the Hebrew is gone. And"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "almost all of the Persian is gone and"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "and almost all the Egyptian is gone."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Like what we have of old Egyptian is"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "what they inscribe, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "hieroglyphs that survive for thousands"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "of years."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> But there was other stuff written on"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "papyrus that is just gone. So this is"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "something that I always impress upon my"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "classes that we are dealing with with a"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "lack of data. We dealing with a serious"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "lack of data when we are trying to"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "understand the ancient world. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Because they just wrote so much stuff."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "We know they wrote so much stuff in all"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "of those languages"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> and almost all of it's gone."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> Well, wait. And despite that, what we"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "have remaining"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> is still awesome"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": ">> from the libraries from from"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> east to west when they archaeologists"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "open up a new library Rome. We're in"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Rome, right? What would you think would"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "would be written in these librans?"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "No, it's majority Greek with some Latin."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "The amount that we have that survives is"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "so much that I've been doing Greek for"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "35 plus years. You've been doing Greek"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "for what?"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Over 20."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> Over 20. And between the two of us, we"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "should both know all the authors then if"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "there's not, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> but we never will cuz there's just"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> We never will. There's so much"}]

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So, Jesus was not a Greek"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "guy."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> He's a Jewish guy. You agree with that,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "right? Amen. I mean, I guess you already"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "said you don't know who Jesus was."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Greek is not an ethnicity. It's a"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "language. Jesus was a"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> It's a colonial It's a colonial"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "language. Greek fluently and he was in"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Egypt. So he probably studied in"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Alexandria and he would have been"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "studying Greek not Hebrew. The question"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "is why does Jesus or anybody in the New"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Testament never quote Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> quotes Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> several times in fact the only times in"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the New Testament in the gospels of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "course when Jesus is directly quoted"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> New Testament. How many?"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Uh, at least a handful, right? Because"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "they only quote"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> at least a handful. And a couple of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "those are ones that we think, right,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "that we think may be Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> No, they are. It's pretty clear if you"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "know Aramaic that he's it's Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> It's pretty clear or it's it is."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> Um, and we're we're going to keep going"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "back to every science. It's science."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Look at science. It either is clearly"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Okay. You want me to say it this way? It"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "is clearly Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> It's clearly clear. Lama Sabakon."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> That's when they say, let's talk about"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "that. Can we put this up? Yeah. Mark 27"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "sorry Mark 15 I believe is when Jesus"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "gets quoted saying eloakani"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> can we can we put that on oh it's I"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "believe that's Mark 15"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Aramaic right"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> because it is so let's talk about it"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "let's talk about it"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> I love this"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> yeah so I have not studied Aramaic but"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "it's closely related to Hebrew so just"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "because I've studied Hebrew I can"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "understand the Aramaic because they're"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "they're like Spanish and Portuguese"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "they're not they're not that different"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "and so if if you study one you can you"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "can make heads and tails of the other"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> So, I can tell you what this Aramaic is"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "and I will break it down for you"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "linguistically. Okay. Uh, scroll down."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Scroll down. Uh, we don't Yeah, we Okay,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "this is the Greek, but can we get it in"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "English? I think it's going to be more"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "helpful if we get a translation."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Actually, I Yeah, one chapter."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> If you look at the Sabak throne in the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Greek,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "let's focus on this."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Uh, scroll down, scroll down, scroll"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "down. It's toward the it's it's when"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "he's on the cross and he cries out his"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "final word. Yeah. A little more. A"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "little more. And there it is. There it"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "is. They even put it in italics. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Eloyani."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Okay, they put it in italics. So Jesus"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "is being directly quoted as saying this"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "and then they have to translate it"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "because that's not Greek."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> My God, my God,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> why have you forsaken me? So, so Mark is"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "writing in Greek, but he's quoting Jesus"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "saying,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> so he's writing in Greek and he's"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "interrupting his Greek to to say"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "something Aramaic to say something"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Jesus is saying his final words in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "Aramaic because that was his native"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "language. So let's break down this"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Aramaic linguistically. L is God just"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "like Hebrew. All right. L Eloy. Eloy."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "The E at the end in both Hebrew and"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Aramaic is a is a first person"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "possessive pronoun that means my."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> So Eloy is my God, which you can see"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "it's translated correctly there. My God."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "My God. That's the aloy aloy part"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> in Hebrew, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> In Hebrew and Aramaic. Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> He's speaking Aramaic and not Hebrew."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Yeah. He's speaking Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Okay. So in Aramaic and"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Luma is actually two"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "words that are usually written as one"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "whether in Hebrew or Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> like llama in Hebrew, right? Why?"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> Exactly. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "So l means for and ma means what?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> So when you say for what you're asking"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "why"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> does that make sense? So is why but it"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "means literally for what? Ma."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> Sabakani. I think this is the most"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "important word here. Clearly this is"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "your verb. As you can see from the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "translation they're translating this"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "have you forsaken me? Those are the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "words that we have left in the English"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "there. And that's that's being"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "translated from the Greek. I mean the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Greek says, \"My God, my God, why have"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "you forsaken me in the in the in the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "translation which is in the parenthesis"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "there, right?\" Okay. So Aramaic has this"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "uh verb. Now there's trilliteral"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "conental roots in in the Semitic"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "languages, not just Hebrew, not just"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Aramaic, the the Babylonian languages,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Phoenician, all the Semitic languages"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "operate on what we call triliteral"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "consonental roots, which means it's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "three consonants and you put vowels in"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "the middle of the consonants to sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "inflect the term. Okay? Uh, so there's"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "three consonants here, S, B, and C. The"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "ch is being is is a kai there in Greek."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Um, because in the original Semitic,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "this is actually a guttural sound, C"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "that we don't even have in in English,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "and they didn't have in Greek either."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "So, they're doing the best they can to"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "transliterate this because Greek has"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "this that is a kai. It's it's the letter"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "kai in Greek."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Um, so they're doing the best they can"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "to write this in write this Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "sound in Greek. What's the Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Aramaic letter for the the he?"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> It's it's it's a C. It's a CF."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> Okay. What does it look like?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> Yeah, it looks like a It kind of looks"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "like Well, it looks like a P thing."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> But it's it's the source of our Q. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "the It's the source of our our Latin Q"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "actually. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Um because the alphabet wandered from"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Phoenicia to Greece to the Atruscans and"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "ultimately to Rome and that's where we"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "get it from. So you have this you have"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "this C sound that the Greeks don't know"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "what to do with but they write the next"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "closest thing which is which is we we"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "transliterate with ch there into English"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "but that's a kai that's the letter the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "letter kai in Greek right we can go look"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> so yeah however you want to pronounce it"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "who cares modern Greek"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> yeah modern Greek key whatever it's it's"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "in ancient Greek that's that's what's"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "going on there"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> the the Semitic languages have the sound"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "sh and Greek as you know does not have"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "the sound sh So, so Greeks did did not"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "could not pronounce the sound sha. They"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "did have the sound su like a regular s."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "And so anytime there is a word in any"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Semitic language that has a shuh sound,"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "and there's lots of them, and they want"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "to try to pronounce that in Greek, they"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "write s instead of shu because it's the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "next closest thing."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> Okay. So, this is shabbak in the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "original Aramaic, which means it's this"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "triliteral root. You put vowels in the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "middle. Uh shak that means to forsake."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "All right? You inflect it by putting a"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "second singular masculine ending on it,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "which is the ta, the th ha there,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> That's the second singular masculine"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "ending because Jesus is talking to God"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "and second singular is you. Okay? So,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "he's talking to you, God singular. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "and then the knee, Semitic languages"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "have this really cool thing where they"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "they actually just attach object"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "pronouns right to the word. So, in"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "English, if you say have forsaken me, me"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "is a separate word from forsaken. You"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "don't say forsaken me all as one word."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Right. But in Semitic languages, you you"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "say that all as one word for second me"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "and you write it all as one word. So"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "that ni is the first person singular"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "object pronoun. So when Jesus says"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "sabakani"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "that's why it takes four English words."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Uh which by the way shows that that seem"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "languages are very elegant. They can"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "actually express a lot of ideas that"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that take us multiple words in English."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "which is another reason I I I push back"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "against your idea that somehow Hebrew is"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "is not as superior as Greek because it's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "pretty cool. It's a very elegant"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "language and this is Aramaic which is"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "similar to Hebrew, right? So he so so"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "the author of Mark is is going out of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "his way. He doesn't have to do this."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "He's writing in Greek but he goes out of"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "his way to say actually Jesus said this"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "in Aramaic and then he quotes the exact"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Aramaic here."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> Well he does the exact he says it in"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> That's Aramaic but he doesn't say it's"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "in Aramaic. Elsewhere there's another"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "quote where he says in Hebrew Jesus said"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> okay but here he's not saying this is"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "why does it matter why would it matter"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "if he says it if it's written in if it's"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "in Aramaic why does he have to say it's"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": ">> because it's written in Aramaic is our"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "concl is your conclusion"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": ">> okay go ahead argue against"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> it's not it's go back to the Greek go"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "back to the Greek things let's see maybe"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "it's not Aramaic is it possible"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": ">> it's written in Greek letters"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> is it possible it's not Aramaic bring"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the text, right? Scholars"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> scholars entertain discussion, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "It's a museum. Blow it up, Steve. On the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> I have no idea"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> on the verse. What verse was that?"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> A little further down. A little further"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> What verse in the 30s?"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": ">> There it is. There it is. It's right"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "above 35."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Right in the upper middle, right side."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Right margin. Right margin."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> No. No. Go right. Go right. There it is."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "There."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "That last word. that last word before"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the semicolon. And remember, there's"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "your semicolon. Wait, just"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> that's not a semicolon. That's a"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "question mark,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> In Greek, you write you write question"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "marks, the semicolons,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> right? And who put that in? So,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Byzantine nerd. The Greeks didn't put"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "that in."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> That's true. I mean, all the punctuation"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "is later."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> All the capitalization is later,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> right? And the word that they wrote like"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "that sometimes there's no spaces in the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "original."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> There's no spaces. Okay. Steve, you just"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "got to know. You got to know."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> Just blow up."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> That's as blown up as I can get."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Is that as blown up? Okay. Just just"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "this one word because this is the verb."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "And to be honest, this is the most"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "interesting of the words. Verb is always"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "awesome."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Oh, sure."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> So, if this is is Aramaic, as you say,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> this this should have really no Greek"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "essence to it."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> It should it what do you mean by Greek"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "essence?"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Because there's no influence. There's no"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Aramaic influence on Greek. There are"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "people bilingual with each other."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": ">> We have no authors though who are saying"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "um I'm going to use this Aramaism and"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "I'm gonna write and write it out."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> Mark is just doing this."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> Okay. Well, no, not if it's a quote."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> He's quoting him. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> Right. It's just a direct quote. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "just a direct quote. You're saying"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Sabakthone. Is there anything in that"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "that looks Greek? If I have read the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Greek magic of Papyrus, I now my anus"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "twitches because you can see both the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "roots for Sabah that worship and the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "clonian divinity that is the Christing"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "head, the ion who is the person inside"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the synagogues"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "that is pictured on the walls of the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "synagogues. The god ion that is Sabah of"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "the thorn."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "This is used in magic. Jesus is from the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "cross using magic Greek and he's talking"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "about that God that induces that"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "transfer from death to resurrection."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "And if you look up if if you uh you know"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "the Saba root, right, that I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "about and you know the"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> seab root, not the sa root."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> Are you talking about seomi"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> to worship? Sebomi is the verb. So"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "that's a different"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> but here the sab no this is the same"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the god you're s he's going to say it's"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "even s I told you it's the same thing"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "where is the literature that backs you"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "up."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> What do you mean the literature that"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "backs up"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> where's the literature outside the Bible"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "that backs you up? Cuz I can give you"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "literature outside of this that backs up"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> We've already been over this"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "mythological territory. We're just"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "beating a dead horse."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> It doesn't exist cuz it got burned to"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "the ground."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> No, it doesn't exist. You don't have"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "evidence that it exists. You don't have"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "any Hebrew literature that's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "use the term Sabbath. What you have is"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Greek and you have Greek in the magical."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "You have you have Greek that is telling"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "us even the pharmarmacology does this."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": ">> His his his reasoning for that is"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "because he thinks it all got well he"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "says we know it all it all got burned"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "down. All the liar magic it was"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "imperialism."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> If your evidence got magically"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "disappeared it's easy to make whatever"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "argument you want. Sure, you can say"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "that."}]

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That's not a"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "biblical text."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> That one was taken out."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> I don't think it was ever in there in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the first"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> That was probably written way after the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Bible. I think"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> exactly. Yeah. There's a lot of later"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "mythology about Jesus and that's one of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "the method methodological questions. We"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "know that people were were saying and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "writing things about Jesus that were"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "very diverse, even early Christians."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Like some of this stuff came from people"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "who didn't like Jesus and and weren't"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Christian. But some of this stuff comes"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "from people"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> who were Christian like who did worship"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Jesus. Um but there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "diversity, a ton of diversity. So the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "question is, you know, what are what"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "group do these texts come from and uh"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "and what kind of historical accuracy"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "would we assign?"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Find the context for Steve. one before"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> This is Almond's slide, but find like"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the definitions of the great greater"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "questions of Mary so we can give the"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "audience context of who wrote it, when"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "it was written and uh all that kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> It is epaneous."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Okay. Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Okay. And he is writing about the"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "heresies in Christianity."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Do we want the the English or the Greek?"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Yeah. So the heres"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Okay, good. It's good."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> Yeah. So, as I was just saying, there"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "was a ton of diversity in early"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Christianity. Um, and you might think"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "that something like this that sounds off"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "the wall was coming from some someone"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "outside of the faith, but it it might"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "not have been might not have been."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Right. From a bishop there was no"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "orthodoxy yet."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> Right. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> it's being established."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Early Christians are arguing with each"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "other about who Jesus was, why he's"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "important,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> and why we have to eat his semen."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> Well, that's what apparently some people"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "thought."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> These guys. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> I don't think that was ever orthodox."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "You don't think that was orthodox,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "right? You don't think"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> it was one of the things? That's one of"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "the many things that somebody said at"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "some point."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> The offites from the beginning were"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "doing it. So was Simon crazy diversity."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "In the book of Jude, it says, \"Hey, stop"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "doing all that sexy sex.\""}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Okay. Early Christian writings. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> Epanius writes the following about the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Gnostics and this is our only source for"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the contents. Uh, they publish certain"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "questions of Mary. So what year was this"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "published almond?"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> Uh it wasn't well or written rather."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> Let's see. Epiphanius is fourth, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Okay. So fourth century. So 400,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> right? Confirm my freaking dates. I"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> I think that's right. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> He's right after Julian. Right after"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Julian died."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> The fourth century is really important"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "to Christianity because that's exactly"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "when orthodoxy is is being uh formed."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> Right. Because Constantine converts to"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Christianity in 313. Yes. And for the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "first time there's a there's a topdown"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "power structure where somebody at the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "top can say and Constantine did say this"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "guys get your act together. What do we"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "believe? Like what is this religion"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "anyways? Who was Jesus? What what's the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "official story on him?"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> And so then you get a guy like this"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "who's who's cataloging some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "diverse and maybe unusual stories about"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Jesus. Right."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> If that's the way we can refer to it."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Exactly. That's perfect. And remember"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "this is epic is we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "after Julian tried to restore the page."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Yeah. 360s. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> This is the hard thing to me about"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "trying to figure out"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> I I I think and I also think that that's"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "kind of like coming at it from the wrong"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "perspective. Trying to figure out"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "exactly what was going on because you're"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "never going to do that. All you can"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "really do is just sort of read it and"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "then take it for for face value. You"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "can't really because my question was"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "like how many people in antiquity that"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "were writing stuff like this had an axe"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "to grind against someone else."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> Most of them"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> like how do we know this wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "ancient national inquirer? You know what"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "I mean? Something like that."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> And and yeah, this guy is reporting on"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "this thing that he's calling a heresy."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "He doesn't agree with it. The guy who's"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "writing this doesn't think that's true,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> right? No, he's saying he's reporting"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "that there's another he's reporting"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "another."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> No, he's not saying it's not true. He's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "saying this is what they do. Uh-huh."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> The people who eat the semen."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Right. This is how they justify it."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Jesus said, \"Eat my blood and flesh.\""}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "That blood is his hima. His"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> excrement,"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "his semen."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> Well, him and semen are two different"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "words, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Originally him. No, originally him is"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "what? An essence."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> It's a bodily essence, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> Well, blood,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Blood."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Okay. Not just B. It's not just blood."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> Now, I mean, let me let me tell you"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "this. This will help you. The ancient"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Greek physicians, and you know this,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "thought that semen was a highly"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "concocted form of blood."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> They did. That's what they thought. They"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "thought that"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> highly concocted form of blood. So, what"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "they thought is that your blood go if if"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "you produce your blood goes through your"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "brain and it picks up thought and air"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "bubbles and spiritual essence, which is"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "why it's white, by the way."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> And that's where it comes from. It's an"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "ess question of essence that you and I"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "can sit and debate about the earliest"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "references to him. Can this be"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> so so but in what what he what the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Christian author here is saying is this"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "is what these people"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> sure he's reporting he's he's he's"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "reporting it and"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> and he's orthodox so he doesn't agree"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "with this section I think he is"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Christian okay"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> he is a Christian yeah and in this"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "section he's talking about"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "ice"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "which is"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> fellatio"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "fellatio and right up here. Watch. He"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "says, \"Right, let me just translate.\""}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "And now Luke is of course here to just"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "to make sure that I don't, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "pull any wool over anybody's eyes, but"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> not taking us into the back alley."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm not taking you guys into the"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "back alley. Right. He says, \"These"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "people aren't ashamed to say that he"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "himself, Jesus, revealed to her this ice"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "cia, this terrible, shameful act.\""}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Right? And in the questions of Mary that"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "are called the greater you know because"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "he says there's also in the parentheses"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "he says there's also these lesser"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "questions of Mary right that have been"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "created right he says they assert that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "he showed her this by taking her up into"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "the hills praying and positioning her"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "the level throwing her down to the level"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "of his groin"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> wherein began plea us."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> Where's that? I mean that means side not"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "right. It right but it's in the region"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "of the side."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Well, it's egg t. So from the side which"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "means by his side telling you position."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "We're talking about position by his"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "side. Okay. So her head's by his side"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "which is vague not necessarily groin."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Okay. She's on her [ __ ] knees for"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "some reason. Why? Why? Let's keep Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Let's keep going and see if maybe as we"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "translate it clears it up. Right? And"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "they said that he began"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "to do what to her to innai."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Now migni is involved the fluids. Once"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "again"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> often times it means sex"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> and it's sexual but mnami means to mix"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "the fluids."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> Yeah. And what do we do with the what do"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "we do with the compound form the ka in"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the in when you put kata it has a sense"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "of consumption somebody consuming this"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "thing is being consumed and it can also"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "mean wasted positionally down can also"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "be wasted like you used it up and the in"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "positionally within this is prefer us uh"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "referencing fellatio"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "the act of sex that is that exchange of"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "fluids that lifegiving fluid because"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "what does Jesus say?"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> What is the word that's highlighted"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "there?"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> Ice"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the shameful."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> What does that mean? The shame"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> fellatio here."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> Do you agree that means felatio?"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> It does not mean felacia. It literally"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "means so ice gross means shameful as you"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "said correctly. Org means act, work,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "deed, something like that. Um so ice"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "means some kind of shameful act. Now the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "question is what kind of shameful act?"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Now ammon you're taking a step further"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "and and and putting your own"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "interpretation that no why am I doing"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "which is fine because no no clear that"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "you are doing it. No I'm not you're"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "interpreting it but I'm doing that"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "because of my experience with the Greek"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "because I'm not necessarily what that"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "means because I do you know what an ice"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "crotes is?"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> We talked about this. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> What is it? Look it up Steve. Look up is"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "ice crotes. It's a person who performs"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "fellatio."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> Not necessarily. Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> Is it a person who performs fellatio or"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "not? Not necessarily is not really a"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "good answer."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> Can it be more than that?"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Can it be other things?"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Can it be can it can it be is it"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "possible that is that also somebody who"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "performs felatio as well as other"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "things?"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> Okay. Let me let me talk about this a"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "little bit because I think it would help"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "to kind of make an analogy so that we're"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "all sort of on the same page"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "methodologically. All right. So let's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "say that there's a scholar in 2,000"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "years because I like to do these thought"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "experiments about let's say somebody"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "studying classical English in 2,000"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "years and I think we are living in the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "era that will someday be called"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "classical English because we're a global"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "language. We've spread to every corner"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "of the world. Everyone's speaking"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "English. There's so much English"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "literature being created. It's diverse"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "though, right? So the English that's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "spoken in the United States is not the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "same as the English spoken in Britain or"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Australia or some some place like India,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "right? It was colonized by the by the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "British. So, let's say that there's a"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "scholar in the future who uh who who"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "notices that that there's this"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "particular word in 21st century American"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "English. Uh, and I don't know if you're"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "going to have to bleep this or not, but"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "I'm just, you know, making making a"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "scholarly point here. That is the word"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "dick."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": ">> All right. And and those of us who who"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "uh live in and speak 21st century"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "English, we understand that this word"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "today primarily refers to male"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "genitalia."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> Right. Or it could be someone being an"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> Exactly. Okay. So this one word it it it"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "it refers to male genitalia, but then we"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "can use it colloquially to say like stop"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "being a dick,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> And and and when I say that, I'm not I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "not literally saying that you were male"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "genitalia,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> I'm I'm making a a reference, right? And"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "we understand that. Okay. Now, there's"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "also another use of this word that's"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "older. And so from my understanding,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "this use of the word dick as as male"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "genitalia is pretty recent actually."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": ">> Is this in idioms? Is this kind of like"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, every language has"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "idioms and semantic references, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> this this use of the word that we kind"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "of take for granted in English today is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "pretty recent."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> Up until fairly recently, Dick was used"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "as as a as a as a name for Richard,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "right? As we all know, as we all know,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "right? So, we had a president named Dick"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Nixon. We just had a vice president who"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "just died named Dick Cheney. Dick"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Cheney,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": ">> right? And there's lots of other dicks"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "in the world who are just guys named"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Richard, right? Okay. So, we understand"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "because we speak English that there"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "there are multiple meanings of the word"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "dick and they don't all mean male"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "genitalia. Right. Right. So, we"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "understand that Dick Nixon was not"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "calling himself that because he was"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "making trying trying to say he's the the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "penis guy."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> Right. He's not. He's not. It's a"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "totally different thing. And it actually"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "predates our meaning of the word dick."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Now, let's say that there's a scholar of"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "classical English at some university in"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "2000 years who who who correctly notices"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "that this word dick in 21st century"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "classical English as I'm calling it"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "oftentimes occurs in in in in dirty"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "contexts. Okay? It it refers to male"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "genitalia. And then he has a hundred a"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "thousand a million different examples of"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "that, right? And so he hits you over the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "head and says, \"Look, this this word"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "clearly means male genitalia.\" He's"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "right that often times it does mean male"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "genitalia. But then let's say he he"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "takes a leap and he says, \"Well, you"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "know what this means about Dick Nixon,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": ">> That means that Dick Nixon was calling"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "himself that because he was a child."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> Like he just was obsessed with male"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "genitalia.\" And I mean, like, why else"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "would he use that as his first name?"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Like like how dirty would he have to be"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "to use the dick as his first name,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "right? And so this this this person"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "2,000 years down the road has this"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "theory that that Dick Nixon was was I"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "don't know maybe he was gay. Maybe he"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "who knows like come up with some theory"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> Now those of us who speak English today"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "know that that makes no sense and isn't"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "true at all. Right? Because we know that"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "there are different contexts in which"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "this word can exist and it has different"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "meanings in different contexts and"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "that's methodologically sound is we have"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "to pay attention to the text. So, I"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "wanna I want to uh consistently come"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "back to this. No, no, because what I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "calling this is pulling a Dick Nixon."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> So, from now on when I say pulling a"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Dick Nixon, and I think I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "have to say it multiple times, what I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "referring to is pointing out a word that"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "could be dirty or could mean a certain"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "thing. Yes. But then, but it might not"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "it might mean something else."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> It could mean fellatio here, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> Is it possible it means felatio in that"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "context?"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> Okay. So, since it means dirty deeds,"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> euphemism for felio."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": ">> I see it. Yeah. Oh, by the way, can we"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "bring that up? So, this is actually"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Yeah. So, this was from your short. You"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "sent this to me a few weeks ago, but"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "since you brought it up, let's bring up"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "now,"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> Steve. LSJ."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Yeah. LSJ."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> Uh, it was ice, right? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> No, no, no. Um, Ice Crocase. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> Okay. LSJS."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> Honestly, can we can we bring up Can we"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Let's take a I got to take a leak. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "you you look it up. I'm going to go pee."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": ">> Steve, are you ready?"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": ">> Go to the definition. Let's go to the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "definition."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": ">> All right, we are back and Steve just"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "pulled up the definition of what's this"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "word again? Now this is icecrotes"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "and all of this is using the beautiful"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "glorious Greek root alpha yota sigma he"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "right that row is hanging on there can"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "come off or not but the ice is that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "which is just awful ugly deformed out"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "look it's in its hand the ice"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:25", "text": ">> so you see the main definition"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Ice gia is the working of this shameful"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "thing"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> committing committing ice. Right."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> Exactly. It's filthy conduct. Uglin"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "deformity."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> You notice it's a euphemism for"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "fellatio, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> But why is it so I'm curious why is it"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "fil so they're associating filthy"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "conduct with fellatio."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Cuz these are Victorians, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> Okay. So this is something now now for"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "for the listeners, the three of us have"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "had a had a text discussion or a text"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "thread um for the past few months. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> yes,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> Almond sent this to the thread uh a few"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "weeks ago"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> and I pointed out at the time that that"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "semicolon is very important. Right after"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Ephesians 5:4, there is a semicolon."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Almond, what does that semicolon mean to"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> You surprised it mean to you."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> You surprised me as a Greek reader. It"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "means nothing to me."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> Well, that's a problem. It means"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "something very. It's it's an and as an"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "English reader and it's a euphemism"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "separating as you see from the scolast"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "sorry Aristophanes frogs"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> frogs 1308 we agree with that"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": ">> and then they refer to you the general"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "term is"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> right which is which tits is going to"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "talk about right in his com is Byzantine"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "all to you what does that colon mean"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": ">> it's separating two different things"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "that are that are pretty different here."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Okay, so specifically it's separating"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "two places in which that this word ice"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "has been used by two different authors"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "at two different times and places."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Before the semicolon, what we see is"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "filthy conduct epistle to the Ephesians"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "5:4. Okay."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": ">> Okay. And in in that use, and we can go"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "look at that if you want, but I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "think this is particularly"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "controversial. Uh the author of"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Ephesians is simply saying don't engage"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "in ice grotes, right? He doesn't define"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "it. I think I'm I think I I because I"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "think he's being vague."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": ">> I don't think he spec I I I don't think"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "he necessarily has one particular dirty"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "thing in mind when he says that"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> gay."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "It could be sexual. Okay. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "No, I think when he has dirty things in"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "mind in Ephesians, sexual stuff is part"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> All right. But he's not narrowing down"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "the sexual stuff. Do you agree with"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "that? He doesn't just mean one"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "particular sexual thing."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": ">> No, he does because I don't think he"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "does calls it a do latria. It is the act"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "itself of engaging in these dirty dirty"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "mysteries where they are eating."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> Let me go back to the semicolon. All"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "right. Okay. So then the next use of"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "this is is centuries later. I'm actually"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "not sure what century the the scolius to"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "to uh to Aristophanes frogs is. I want"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "to say like 11th or 12th century. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "over a thousand years after Aristophanes"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "or sorry thousand years after the author"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "of Ephesians, right? It's Byzantine,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "right? So, so hundreds maybe over a"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "thousand years later, a scolist, and let"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "me let me tell everyone what a skull is."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "I'm both know a scolist is somebody who"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "who is a commentator"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": ">> on a on an older work. Okay? So, like"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "for instance, today you can buy a"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Shakespeare annotated volume because"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "sometimes we don't know what Shakespeare"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "means because it's been 400 years,"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "right? And so, somebody will say put"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "notes in and say, \"This is what"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Shakespeare meant when he said this or"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "whatever.\" Okay, that's what Escolius is"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "doing. He's a later writer who is a"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "commentator on an earlier work."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> Usually grimarians. Grimarians."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": ">> All sorts of nerdy people as you can"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "imagine are scol right."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Linguists. Ancient linguist."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Yeah. Sure. So this is a a much"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "a much later commentator on this"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "classical Greek play. So Aristophanes"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "you know fifth century late fifth"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "century early 4th century uh BC. Okay."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "So there is the the use of this word is"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "grotes in this play by Aristophanes. In"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "the play by Aristophanes it the author"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "doesn't explain what he means by ice. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "but this later commentator from from"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "literally literally a millennium and a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "half after wrote this. He says I think"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "it means fellatio."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> So that doesn't mean he's wrong but that"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "doesn't mean he's right. That's his"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "that's that's the opinion of someone"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "from a millennium and a half later."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "That's important to know"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> that that some some later rand literally"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "random dude who never was part of that"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "culture at all speaks and reads Greek"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "but from a much later much later period."}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "That's what he thinks. That's his"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "opinion."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": ">> I think you're unemphasizing."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> Is that you agree?"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": ">> No, I think he's I think Luke, you're"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "underemphasizing."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> What do you disagree with about what I"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "said?"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> These scolas are so separated from these"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "traditions. They're grimarans. John"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Sitzes, the guy on the end there, he's a"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "Byzantine guy. And he is right up there"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "in preserving. I mean, he preserves"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "stuff that we don't even have. He talks"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "about in the Odyssey what's going on"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "when Cersei goes back to visit Homer and"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "you're like, \"What? We didn't know that"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "tradition was there? How the hell? Huh?"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "It's the first time we see it.\" He"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "preserves that from things he's read"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "himself."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> That's sometimes true. That could be"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "true. like he has a commentary that guy"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "who's there talking about the ice croune"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "which is the older form that they would"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "have been using he is saying"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> oh um this source is telling us x y and"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "z and we don't have any other record of"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "that he's he's he's the one who's saying"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "look this is euphemistically"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> he's saying it's a euphemism for a fatio"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "now I'm I'm not to be clear I'm not"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "saying he's definitely wrong because"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "he's writing 1500 years later and I 100%"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "agree The Scolasts are are in a"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "tradition where they are very well read."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "They're not dummies. Just like if you if"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "you hire someone to write a commentary"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "on Shakespeare, hopefully they've read"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "all of Shakespeare and everything else"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "from the period to even know what"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "they're talking about, right?"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Um so the I am not trying to discount"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "that these Scolas don't know anything."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Otherwise, we wouldn't cite them in in a"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "dictionary. However, we have to cite"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "them with a with a pretty large grain of"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "salt. So we can't just say that's"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "definitely right because this is 1500"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "years later that somebody is coming"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "along and saying I Mr. Scolius from the"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "Byzantine period think that the use of"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "this word in Aristophanes play the frogs"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "means fellatio right that's its opinion"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "it's a learned opinion okay I'm not"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "saying he's wrong I'm just saying we do"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "have to take it with a grain of salt we"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "can't say that's definitely what yeah we"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "so also I want to make this point he's"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "only talking about the use of the word"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "in Aristophanes frogs he's not talking"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "about it anywhere else okay he's not"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "talking about the use of the word in"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "Ephesians he had no comment about the"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "use of the word in Ephesians He's not"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "talking about the use of the word in"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "what we were discussing before we came"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": ">> the Victorians who were putting them"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "next to each other and putting the"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "semicolon."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": ">> No, the semicolon is Bible."}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": ">> No, no, no, no, it's not. No, it's not."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "The reason that the semicolon is there,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "it's very simple. It's it's it's"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "dividing two different times that this"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "word was used. You agreed it was used in"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Ephesians. It was used in the frogs,"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> Two different times. And that's all"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "that's all the"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "same. I would say it's the same"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "semicolon is an and"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": ">> you can have that opinion but it's just"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "your opinion right and I might have a"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "different opinion you might have a"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "different opinion we can both argue for"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": ">> correct and it's good that's what"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "university is for"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": ">> yes we argue for our particular"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": ">> you think you think the leaders of the"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "museum didn't fight with each other and"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "all the time and they stormed off and"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "they started new museums"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": ">> exactly of course they did that"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": ">> exactly now can we have the texts now"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> I'm just trying to start a new religion"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "here today that's all I'm here for"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": ">> to finish the text I want to go back to"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "yeah we were we were debating actually"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "what led us to this is what the word ice"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "means and so so what ammon has done is"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "he's he's pointed out that hundreds and"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "hundreds of years later one guy had an"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "opinion that this meant felatio in a"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "different text"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": ">> not even here he said not even in this"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "text this was in an Aristophan play"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> Arisphan play which is not what we're"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "dealing with here so so this is where"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "methodology comes into play on the no"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "pun intended on the one hand"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": ">> Almond is doing linguistic work here"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "which is important and valuable because"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "he's saying look here's another time"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "where somebody said that this word used"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "in a different place but still the same"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "language even if it's 1500 years apart"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "or whatever means this particular thing."}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "However, it doesn't remotely prove in"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "any way that that's what it means here."}]

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So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> do they for me?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Is there any sort of uh good reason for"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "65? Like is do they do do any like"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "cognitive testing or is it just because"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "of age strictly?"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> No. So they so they they do do cognitive"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "testing but it's not what you would"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "think like sit down take a test you've"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "got 20 minutes to pass it. It's not like"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that. Every time you take a check ride"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "and I take a check ride every I take a"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "check ride every nine months and that's"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "your cognitive test. And in addition to"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "that flying the airplane with two other"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "co-pilots."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> So you get you get thoroughly examined"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "all the time just by doing your job. And"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "there's ways for other pilots to report"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "you without having to, you know, kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "confront you like, \"Hey, Steve, you"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "know, you're kind of like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "you're missing a few things.\" There's a"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "professional standards at each airline."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "And they would just kind of call"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "professional standards and say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "you know, Captain Steve here, you kind"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "of missed about 25 radio calls on the"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "last trip and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> we think he's he's missing, you know, a"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "thing or two.\" And then they'll call you"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "up and they'll start that process. Most"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "pilots will catch it on their own, you"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "know, and but the the process of getting"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "a physical every six months"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "war it kind of identifies the issues as"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "you're aging. So the the main the first"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "medical issues show up in your mid30s."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Um there's two things primarily that"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "affect pilots and it's substance abuse"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "and um mental illness."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> So if you think about it, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "alcoholism and and depression are the"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "two biggies. Um, and those show up in"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "much younger pilots. If you get to be"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "64, 64 and a half and you haven't"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "developed any sort of cardiac issues,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "any sort of cognitive issues, you don't"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "have diabetes, you're probably one of"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "the most physically fit. You've come"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "through that whole gauntlet."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> And then 6 months later, they force you"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "to retire. And the background on that"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "goes all the way back to 1959. There"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "wasn't a pilot retirement age until 1959"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> when CR Smith, who is the CEO of"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "American Airlines,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "um was having golf playing golf with his"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "neighbor who happened to be the head of"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the FAA at the time. And uh they were he"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "was complaining about how expensive that"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "his pilots were over age 60. And so the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "two of them concocted a plan to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "introduce a mandatory retirement age."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "They didn't hold any hearings, nothing."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "They rammed it right through Congress."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "They made it a law and it's been a law."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "It was a law until 2007 and then"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "President Bush uh added 5 years to it"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "and Congress passed the 5-year"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "extension. Now it's age 65. But still,"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "you turn 65 and you're out regardless of"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "how"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> Now we're getting to the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> Too expensive."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Back then it was. Now it doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "any difference. I If I stayed another"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "two years, I wouldn't cost the company"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "any more money. I wouldn't make, you"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "know, I would continue to make money,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "but they wouldn't replace me with"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "another captain that's making the same"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "money."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> It's just you keep the experience in the"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "cockpit. That's the key to it is you're"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "taking the most experienced"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> pilot and pulling them out arbitrarily"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "because it's a one-sizefits-all"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> policy. It doesn't make any sense."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> What is it about being an airplane pilot"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "or is there anything about being an"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "airplane pilot that predisposes certain"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "individuals to things like depression"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "and alcoholism and drug abuse? Well, I"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "think it's it's like any other job. Uh"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "it's you're it's a lot of travel with it"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "and so and along with that there is"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "certain amount of stress in the job. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "you you don't it's it's like anything"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "else. Once you do it for a long time,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "you don't really sense the stress, but"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "it's kind of always present. It's like"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "an underlying high baseline of stress in"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "that job. Air traffic controllers are"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "the same thing. You'll see the same"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> same issue show up with them."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Depression, alcoholism, substance abuse,"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "so on."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> You're on the road all the time. You're"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "not eating well. You're always"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "jet-lagged,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> You're behind the clock. You're, you"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "know, eating processed foods, and then"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "what do you do to wind down at a"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "layover, you go to the bar, get a couple"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "of drinks, maybe go up to the room, get"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "a couple of more. Most pilots are very"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "good at at obeying the restrictions."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "There's a a 12-h hour cut off. They'll"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "do that."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> Um, but they'll drink right up to that"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "12-h hour cut off, and then when they go"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "home, you know, the whole thing begins"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "to snowball on them. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "alcoholism is it's an insidious thing"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "and it it'll take you over and and but"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "it shows up in much younger pilots. If"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "you haven't developed a drinking problem"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "by the time you're in your mid60s,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "you're probably not going to."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Right. Right. Totally. Well, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "think about like rock stars, too. They"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "have very similar lives and they're but"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "they're drinking kind of goes hand inand"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "with doing that. They're always on"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "planes. They're always on the road,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "always traveling, never seeing their"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "family. You know, I always I always"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "think about this stuff because I've met"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "a lot of people who like in different"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "industries that live very similar lives"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "and they all seem to have that follow"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "that same pattern of like depression,"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "being just unhappy, being always on the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "road, not around like their kids if they"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "have kids and they're always traveling."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": ">> Well, we're we're creatures that were"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "created for habit. We like our habits"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and our routines. I I taught a course I"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "wrote a course for the Navy years ago"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "and one of the things I I talked about"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> how we are predisposed to wanting to get"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "into a routine. So no matter where you"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "go, even if you're on the road, you'll"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "have a road routine."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> Most people will they'll get up, they'll"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "go to their layover, they'll sleep for a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "couple hours, they'll get up, they'll"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "take a run, they'll take a walk,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> they'll go get dinner at the same place"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "at the same time. And it's that's all"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "part of the habitual thing that gives"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "you kind of stability,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> right? Um, if you're at home and you're"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "a 9 to5, you're going to have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "stability in your life, more so than the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "person who's constantly packing their"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "bag, unpacking their bag. And with the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "airlines, many times you'll pack your"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "bag to go someplace and you won't get"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "there. You know, like say you got a trip"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "that starts in Miami and you get to the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "airport and they go, \"We canceled your"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Miami leg, now you're going to Dallas or"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "now you're going to Minnesota and it's"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the middle of the winter.\" Well, wait a"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "minute. I packed my my, you know, my"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "bathing suit for Miami. No, sorry."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "You're going to end up in Minneapolis"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "St. Paul tonight. M"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> so those kind of upheavalss are are the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "routine the normal [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "routine for a pilot. So a lot of that"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "that stability that most people have"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "it's kind of not there a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "times."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> Right. Now were you were you in um like"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "the military before you flew commercial?"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Yep. I did nine years on active duty in"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the military and then I did another 21"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "years in the reserve. So about 30 years"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "altogether"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> as a pilot."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Yeah. I got trained as a pilot that I"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "was uh so this is a good story. I uh had"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "no I'd never been in an airplane before"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "uh the military and uh my best friend"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "went to the naval academy and he was a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "he was one of those guys in high school"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "that knew what he wanted to do. Really"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "super smart guy. Got straight A's. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "got accepted to the Naval Academy. I was"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "more of a knucklehead. I had a good"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "time. Uh the same thing with college and"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "I got done with college and uh it was"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "1982 and the job market was super tight"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and nobody was hiring. And so I was on"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "the phone with him one night and he"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "said, 'Why don't you go down the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "recruiter and tell him you want to be a"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "a pilot? I said, 'Okay, how walk me"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "through that?' So he did and uh so I"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "went down to the recruiter the next day"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "and I walked in and after the small"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "talk, the recruiter said, \"So what do"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "you what do you want to do?\" And I said,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "\"I want to be a pilot.\" Just like that."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "You know that pilot voice. And he"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "laughed at me. He just looked at me and"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "he goes, \"Well, you and 40,000 other"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "guys.\" And I said I said, \"Well, I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "want 40,000 spots. I only want one.\" And"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "he he looked back and he went, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Well, he goes, \"I like the attitude.\" He"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "goes, \"That's all right. take you got to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "take tests. So they gave me a whole"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "battery of tests and then about three"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "weeks later he called me back and he"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "goes, \"Hey, you did really well on the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "test.\" He said, \"In fact, you aced him."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "He said, \"Come on back.\" He said, \"Let's"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "get your your thing going. Let's see if"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "we can get you that pilot spot.\" And so"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the next thing out of his mouth was, \"I"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "need your college transcript.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "said, \"Can we skip that part?\""}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "[laughter] He said, \"No, no, we got to"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "have it.\" And I said, \"Well,\" So I sent"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "it to him and he called me up and he"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "goes, \"Steve,\" he goes, \"You had a good"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "time in college, didn't you?\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "\"Yeah.\" He goes, \"I don't know if we can"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "send this in.\" and he said, \"I I'm not"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "sure you're going to get accepted.\" I"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "kind of sweet talked him into it and he"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "did. And about 6 weeks later, he called"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "me back. This is back in the day when"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "the the phone was on the wall and I"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "answered the phone. And his voice was"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "like three octaves higher. And he said,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "\"You're not going to believe this.\" He"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "said, \"But they hired you.\" He said,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "\"You better get down here right now and"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "sign on the dotted line.\" I ran down as"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "fast as I could and the rest is history."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> Did you ever did you ever um take off or"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "land on an aircraft carrier?"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> No. So just a couple years prior to my"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "getting hired in the by the Navy, they"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "were training everybody on the carrier"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "whether you went there or not."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> That was kind of a the bad use of"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "resources because if I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "end up there in jets, then why are they"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "training me to do it?"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> So they got rid of that. I ended up"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "flying an airplane called a P3. It's a"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "big 4ine turbo prop that hunted"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "submarines back in the day."}]

[{"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "I've got a 911 story."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Yeah. So, my my background goes like"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "this. I was originally scheduled to be"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "the co-pilot on the first airplane. It"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "was hijacked on September 11th."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> Yeah. And so, I was based in Boston at"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the time. There's a film on called In My"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Seat on YouTube. And it's actually what"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "got the Captain Steve channel started"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "back in 2011 for the 10th anniversary of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "911. We made just a 15-minute"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "documentary about my story. So, my story"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "goes like this. I was a first officer, a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "co-pilot at American Airlines at the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "time, based in Boston, and I was on"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "reserve. And reserve means that you're"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "on call to fill in for another pilot"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "that can't make it. They're sick or they"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "have to training or whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> They'll call you the day before and"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "assign you a trip that's not assigned."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> And on September 10th, 2001, which is a"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "day that means more to me than the 11th,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "actually. On the 10th, I had been"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "watching a trip. It had been open all"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "weekend. It was a really nice trip. It"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "was a morning departure out of of Boston"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "to Los Angeles"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> and very senior trip and nobody picked"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "it up. It was just there in open time."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Nobody picked it up. So the day before"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "then at 3:00 in the afternoon, they will"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "assign the trip to somebody on reserve."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> So I looked on"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> the list of reserve pilots and there was"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "only one guy on call for the 11th and"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "that was me. So the computer then will"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "automatically assign your name to the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "trip and then about 30 minutes after the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "assignment the somebody a real person"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "will call just to make sure that you've"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "seen the assignment and know that you're"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "going to work tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> So I had at 3:00 in the afternoon I went"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "over the computer and I looked and and"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "sure enough I had been assigned the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "trip. My name was assigned to it. I told"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "my wife I'm going to Los Angeles"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "tomorrow. I packed my bags, put them in"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "the car, set my alarm and just waited"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "for the phone to ring. And we kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "lost track of it because sometimes they"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "take more than a half an hour to call."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "And about I don't know about 7:30 that"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "night, I I said to her, I go, \"Did they"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "ever call?\" And she goes, \"I don't think"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "so.\" I looked at her phone, I looked at"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "mine. I thought, \"Well, I better double"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "check.\" So I go back to the computer and"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "I logged in. And sure enough, some"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "other's guy's name was on the trip."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Okay, I don't care. I would still get"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "paid to stay home. And um so I went into"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "work. I went into the Navy the next day."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "I was doing some Navy work then. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "watching 911 on the screens like"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "everybody else. Like I walked in and I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "watching these airplanes crash and I"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "never connected cuz they were talking at"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "first like 10 airplanes had been"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "hijacked and it was American Airlines"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "and some United they didn't know. It was"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "a lot of confusion in those first few"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "hours"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> and and I was on the Navy base and we"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "were going to war and it was nuts. So, I"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "um later on that evening, I went home"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "and uh we uh I I got in on my computer"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "because I thought maybe I can look up"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "the names of the crews that were on"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "those flights. Um cuz I know the back"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "doorway in at American. So, I I logged"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "in and tried to find the names of them"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "on the manifest. And when the screen"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "came up in front of me, it looked"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "exactly like it did 24 hours ago, the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "day before when I saw my name assigned"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "to the trip. And I looked at the screen"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "and all the names were scrubbed off the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "trip."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> All Yeah. All it said was sequence"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "failed continuity,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "which is a code that they put on every"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "flight that doesn't make it to its"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "destination. So if you have to divert"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "for weather or some other reason, well,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "you talk about an understatement, you"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "know, sequence failed continuity. No"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "kidding. Um, and I just looked at the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "screen. I was just like in shock. I I"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "just I just stared. And a few minutes"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "later, my wife came around the corner"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "and she said, you know, what are you"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "doing? I said, \"Remember I told you I"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "was going to LA today?\" And she said,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "\"Yeah.\" I said, \"That was the first"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "airplane that got hijacked this"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "morning.\""}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "And it's still, \"Holy it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "moment, right?\" And so all the radio"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "interviews and everything over the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "years, they always ask me the same"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "question. How does that how'd that make"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "you feel? And I I don't have an answer."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "It's there's the best I can come up with"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "is there's an empty space where a"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "feeling should be because you can't get"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "angry, you can't get sad, you're you"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "know, it's just hard to describe. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "just it was a it's a vacant feeling. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "and I still I I was watching Okay, this"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "I I don't normally get political and I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "not trying to now, but after Trump got"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "shot in the ear in Butler,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the two days later, three days later was"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "a Republican National Convention. and"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "he's sitting there with that bandage on"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "his ear and the camera's going over to"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "him and he's got that he's got that"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "thousandy stare in his eyes and I was"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "looking at him. I thought, \"Oh, I know"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "exactly what's going through his brain.\""}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "He's sitting there and all this hubbhub"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "is going on around him and he's having"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "that moment where he's searching for a"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "feeling that he should feel and there"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "isn't one. and he's going through the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "he's nodding and being polite, but"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "inside he's there's a vacant feeling"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "right now because he the reality of a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "bullet whizzing by your your head that"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "close and taken off the top of your ear."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> There's nothing like that. You can't"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "there's no way to describe that feeling"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "other than wow okay what now what am I"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "going to do next you know so there's an"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "obligation that comes with that I think"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "you know when you've been the the talk I"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "give associated with it is living on"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "borrowed time because I am I can mark on"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the calendar when I I should have died"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "and I didn't so the rest of my life has"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "been marked by you know let's let's make"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the most out of this thing that I can"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> oh my god you"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "I'm sure you think about that all the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> Yeah, it does. It's like Groundhog Day"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "for me because I I still spend probably"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "20 times a year going around and we show"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "the film, the In My Seat film, and then"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "I go and tell my my story"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> in various venues and uh it's like"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "reliving it over and over again. But,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "you know, there's an obligation. You"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "have to tell the story, right? It's not"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "my story to keep myself."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Totally."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "So when you logged back onto the thing,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the computer back back doorored into the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "computers the next day, it still hadn't"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "updated. So it said that you were still"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "assigned to it."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> No, it they had taken all the names off"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "of Oh, it"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> had all been scrubbed."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> So that other guys like me trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "find the names couldn't report them to"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "the media. They wanted to keep the"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "they'll that's one of the protocols"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "right away. Like if there's an incident"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "or an accident, they'll scrub the names"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "off the list right away so the media"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "can't get a hold of them. They want to"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "make sure they can get to the families"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "first, let them know"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> what's going on. And then, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "was about a week later, I think they"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "finally came out. We hear the names of"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the crew members that were on those"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "flights,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> You know, good lord, man."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "How much how much attention did you pay"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "all of the media about that directly"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "right after it happened? like they"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "played phone calls and stuff like that"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "from people from"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "from in the air calling their loved ones"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "and like you hear them the one I think"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the one in Pennsylvania like they were"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "like talking about like trying to go"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "like breach through the door or"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "something and get him and there was so"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "there was so much"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> there was a lot and you couldn't get"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "away from it for a while cuz right after"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "911 it was just all was the news was"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "absorbed with it but"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> uh if you ever go to the flight 93"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "memorial one in Pennsylvania it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "really really good memorial and they"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "have all of those recordings is playing"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "there. So, you can go around and there's"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "little walls hanging there's phones"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "hanging on the walls and you can go and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "there's pictures and memorabilia from"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the flight and you can go and listen to"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "those various recordings and you know"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "after for me after listening about three"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "or four of them I was like that I'm done"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "you know that's enough cuz it's just"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "even now it's still hard to kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "bring all this up."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> Yeah. because the ramifications of all"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "of it, it just is um"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "you know, the more you talk about it,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "the more real it it still becomes."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> And you were living where at the time?"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> I was living in Maine at the time."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": ">> You were living in Maine at the time."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> Yep. I was pastoring a church up there."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "I we started a church in in Topsum,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Maine."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": ">> Oh, wow. Wow. I was a senior pastor of a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "church we started and and uh and it was"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "an ideal job, me being on reserve with"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the airlines and starting a church"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "because there's no money to plant a"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "church up in that part of the country."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> So, I didn't have to take a salary, but"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "we could I could be more or less a"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "full-time pastor as long as they would"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "give me up like for two trips a month."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "That's about what I would fly in those"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "days on reserve."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> And the church is more than happy."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "They're like, \"Yeah, great. you know, if"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "we can have a full-time pastor, we'll,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "you know, if you want to go, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Monday through Wednesday and fly two"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "trips a month. Awesome. You know, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> it worked out."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> Oh, wow. So, that could fund everything"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "for you in just a couple flights. Just a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "couple flights a month."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> Yep. You know, I get you when you're on"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "reserve, you get paid just a straight"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "salary no matter how much you fly. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "I mean not not to linger on the dark"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "stuff, but what how did that like affect"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "your work after that and people around"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "you being an an airline pilot after"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "9/11? Like I'm sure it had to have been"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "uh weird to say the least."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> Yeah, it is. It's it's not it's not the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "first near-death experience I had in an"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "airplane. So the the Navy time there was"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "a couple of"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": ">> uh moments where you know my knees were"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "knocking after a flight and and so you"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "kind of get a little inoculated that and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "and remember my 911 story was it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "like I was on the airplane and I"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "escaped. I just didn't get the I they"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "didn't finalize the assignment. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "here's here's the rest of the story. So"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "people will ask well how did you get off"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "the flight? So I had seen my name"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "assigned to the flight. There was a guy,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the guy who eventually took it is, his"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "name was Tom McGinness. And Tom uh was"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "celebrating his 42nd birthday on the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "10th of September with his wife and his"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "two kids. And uh Tom had been he was a"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "lineholding pilot. He was one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "guys I would fill in for. He could pick"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "up extra trips if he wanted to to kind"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "of fill out his schedule. Tom had been"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "looking at that trip all weekend and"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "doing the we do this all the time. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "like, \"Ah, do I want it? I don't know.\""}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "you know, you go back and forth and do I"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "want to go to work and so he got his"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "birthday celebration out of the way and"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "he he looked at the trip one last time"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "and I had already been assigned to the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "trip, but there was a little code next"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "to my name that says they hadn't made"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "the phone call yet. So until they make"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "the phone call, it's not final final. So"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "he said to his wife, \"Hey, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "thinking about taking a trip tomorrow.\""}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "She's like, \"Yeah, it's fine.\" So he"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "calls up and says, \"Hey, is it too late?"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Can I still get that trip?\" And the"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "scheduler says, \"Well, no, but you got"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "to let me know.\" So he talks to his"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "wife, gets back on the phone, says,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "\"Yeah, I'll take the trip.\" So at that"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "moment, they erased my name from the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "trip. They put Tom's on it."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> And then the rest is history. So Tom was"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "just trying to provide for his family,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "pick up an extra trip. Uh it was a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "wonderful trip. It was the the most"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "senior trip in the on the schedule."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Early morning departure out of uh"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Boston, early return the next day. It"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "was a a luxury trip."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> Direct flight to LA."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Direct to LA. Direct back. Got back. You"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "got back home by 5:'lock the next day."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "time for dinner. So, you know, really"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "nice trip. And uh but uh so he took the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "trip, they erased my name, and that"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "stuff happens all the time in scheduling"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "with the airlines. Sometimes you see it."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> I only met him once. I I didn't really"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "know him. I wouldn't even call him an"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "acquaintance. I I remember bumping into"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "him once. I know much more of his story"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "now. His his son Tom Jr. followed in his"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "dad's footsteps."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> So, my son and his son are about the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "same age. They're like in their late 30s"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "now. My son's a filmmaker and he's a"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "producer of my channel and his son uh"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "became a pilot and uh he I I I talked to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "him one time on the phone. I text him"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "almost every September 11th just say,"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "\"Hey, thinking about you and"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": ">> and so forth.\" But uh he was about to"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "get his interview with American"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Airlines, mainline American, and he"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "said, you know, do you think they're"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "going to hire me and do you have any"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "advice? And I said, Tom, I I said, I"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "don't know what the hiring practices are"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "these days at at American. This was back"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "in like the 2011, 2012 time frame. I"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "said, 'But if they don't hire you,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "they're crazy."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> Just just for the story of it all. And"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "they hired him and he might be a captain"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "now for for all I know. He's he's a"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "super sharp guy. His dad was a top gun"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "trained pilot. They're really sharp"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Yeah."}]

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We did"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "a petition to support what Schleup was"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "doing and saying he should be"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "reinstated."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> Let's move on to Roblox."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> Another topic of not inspiration, huh?"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> You're doing the right thing. It sounds"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "like you're the only one doing the right"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "thing over there. Well, are you is it"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "true that you're the first and only"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "congressman to go up against Roblox?"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> I was because of this kid Schlle, who"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "you know, he showed so much courage. He"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "was basically a whistleblower, right? I"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "mean, there are people on uh Roblox who"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "were"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "acting as predators, pedophiles, taking"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "advantage of kids or playing games. And"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "there was not"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> still happening."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Still happening. that was still"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "happening"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> but but still happening when he started"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "well he's been kicked off the the the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "platform which is why you use the past"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "tense it's still happening but he was"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "kicked off cuz he was going out and he"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "was exposing these folks because Roblox"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "wasn't doing it and no one was listening"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "to him and he was basically kicked off"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the platform for doing this and so as a"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "guy from Silicon Valley I said this is"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "crazy you know because the company's in"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "my area and I said I'm going to come to"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "this 21-year-old kid's defense. And"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "people said, \"What are you doing? You're"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "going to take on I mean the these"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "billionaire founders.\" And I said,"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "\"Yeah, I don't care. I took that on the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Epstein class. This is who cares about"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> Good for you.\""}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> You know, and so I we we we did a"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "petition to support what Schleup was"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "doing and saying he should be reinstated"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "onto the in in Roblox. I mean, they've"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "kicked him out. I mean, let let's let"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "him back on onto the platform and let's"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "have transparency of what are you doing"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "to make sure that you don't have"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "pedophiles and predators on your"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "platform preying on 12, 13, 14y old"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "kids."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> Is he back on there?"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> He's not not not not yet."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "But he, you know, all he was doing is"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "saying, \"Okay, I'm going to expose this"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "guy who's a creepy old guy uh having"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "conversations with a young girl, young"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "boy.\" And cuz Roblox is not doing it."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "And so the response to that is to kick"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "him off. I mean, come on. And all he's"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "fighting for is safety standards. I"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "mean, you would your kids are on these"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "platforms. They're playing games. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "He just doesn't want a 12-year-old girl"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "to be exploited sexually and have to"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "carve [ __ ] into her forehead with razor"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "blades."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Seriously,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> that's the kind of [ __ ] they're doing on"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "there. That Did you know that?"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> I didn't know that example. Oh, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "know that one, but I know they're doing."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> There's a bunch of these. They've had"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "women, not excuse, girls, young girls,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "swallow razor blades."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> They had one commit suicide on camera."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> That's disgusting."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> It's disgusting, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> We did, we uncovered a lot of this uh"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "about a month ago, two months ago with"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Ryan Montgomery. the day we released the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "episode, it took one week, six billion"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "dollars off their stock in one week"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> because of this because of this episode,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> you know, I mean, that's that that's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "[clears throat] why you you should have"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Schlle on. I don't know if you've had"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "him on, but he"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> we're talking to him."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> Yeah. But he, you know, he's uh he"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "showed courage. And the the reality is,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "look, if you're a 44, 45, 50 year old"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "guy and you're talking to a 13-year-old"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "girl online, I'm that's unacceptable."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Like, that's my like, you know, if"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "you're a coach or something, fine. But"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "there's no reason for a 50-year-old guy"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "to be talking to a 13-year-old in a"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "gaming site."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> So, how hard is this to detect? Like,"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "they're like, \"Well, we don't know if"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "it's pedophilia.\" You don't have to have"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "like people swallowing razors. Just you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "can't be talking to young girls being a"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "45y old guy on a gaming site. You can't"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "be talking to young boys like what the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "hell are you doing on there? And that's"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "going on and it's rampant and they hide"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "behind well how do we know you know"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "based on common sense. If you wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "allow your own daughter to hang out with"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "someone in a a room unsupervised"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "uh playing a game then you shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "allowing it online. Yeah, I want to"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "clarify too that's not happening on"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Roblox. It's that 764 satanic cult"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "that's that's that's that's that's"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "pursuing the kids on Roblox, pulling"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "them off and doing it in these chat"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "rooms and stuff,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> but Ryan has showed me"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "tons of stuff that's going on on there"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "is just horrific. It's all censored. But"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "well, and look, this is the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "responsibility of technology companies,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "right? It's there's a lot of positives"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "to allowing people to get information"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "being on social media, but you can't"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "have exploitation. You can't have"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "pedophilia, you can't have pornography,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "you can't be having algorithms feed junk"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "uh on social media to young girls where"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "they're thinking of eating disorders or"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "suicide. And we've allowed a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "social media to get out of hand and not"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "protect our kids. And I'm the guy who"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "represents Silicon Valley. I'm for"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "innovation. I'm for technology. But I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "But you do that with common sense that"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "you protect kids"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> on these platforms."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Speaking of Silicon Valley, how about"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "that uh billionaire tax? How's that"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "going?"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> I got I've gotten quite a lot of hot"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "water with [laughter] that one. You know"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "what I found out though? You know who"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "was the first person to propose one of"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "these taxes? One of the few first"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "people, Donald Trump, when he was"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "running for president in 2000, he called"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "for a 14.5%"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "tax on anyone making over $10 million."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "And he said, \"If you're wealthy, uh, you"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "can pay a tax.\" And, uh, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "since I don't know what he thinks now,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "but my point is this. Look, I'm all for"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "entrepreneurs and I'm all for people"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "making billions of dollars. Fine. You"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "you're brilliant like uh Steve Jobs or"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "you and build Apple, great. You build"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Tesla, SpaceX, great. I once said to"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Elon, stick the cars in Mars or"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "something. You build all that wealth."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Fine. But we've got to have a social"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "contract in this country where the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "wealth can't just be in the hands of the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "few. You've got to have some sense that"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "every person workingass families are"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "going to benefit from that and you get"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "people having healthcare, child care,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "education. That's that's my view."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> Well, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "I'm not going to disagree with you and"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "say that there is a I mean, there's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "definitely a there is a there is a gap"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "here and it's a [ __ ] problem. But I"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "mean"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "I mean if you just look at history,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "every time this happens, the"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "billionaires I mean the the business"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "owners, they just leave. They go"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "somewhere else and then there are no"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "jobs. And so and it sounds like that's"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "what they're going to do if this tax"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "goes through. So"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "well, I think we have it has to be"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "designed in a way that you can't tax"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "illquid stocks. you can't tax companies"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "that are still not profitable. You've"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "got to get conversations with people who"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "want to design it in a reasonable way uh"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "and have a consensus on how to do it."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "So, I'm not saying that the the the that"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "you can't fix some of the design, but"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "ultimately the idea that having just a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "1% tax a year, I mean, in a theory on uh"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "building wealth when you're you make"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "about 10% every year anyway in the stock"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "market. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "There's 300 megabits is what Cash Patel"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "said, the FBI director. How does Epstein"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "[music] as a school teacher end up with"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "a half a billion dollars?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> It's a great question."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> This whole Epstein class needs to go."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> The deadline was December 19th, if I"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "remember correctly. Am I right?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> It's January 9th."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> It doesn't smell right that you have"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "someone contact the FBI in 1996, Maria,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "and say that this guy is abusing young"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "girls and the FBI does doesn't look into"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "it. 30 years later, she's vindicated."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Their claim is the only bad guy is"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "[music] Epstein and Maxwell."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> How many files are there?"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> The there are there's 300 megabits is"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "what Cash Patel said, the FBI director,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "and they've released uh one so far"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "megabits. So, it's like they've released"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "less than 1%. How so?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "How is that legal?"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Isn't Isn't it illegal what they're"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "doing?"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Well, it's illegal. It's obstruction of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "justice. a new president could prosecute"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "them uh for what they're doing. They"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "realize this and that's why Pam Bondi"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "has now said to the judge, \"Okay, we"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "have millions more documents we need to"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "release. We need more time.\" And so why"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "why do they need time?"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> It's a [ __ ] digital file. Why do you"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "need time?"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> So they've got actually twothirds of the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Southern District of New York attorneys"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "working on this apparently."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> Working on what?"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> On on on redactions. Look, they need to"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "look for some redactions, which is the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "survivors. But you know what? They've"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "released some files with the survivors"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "names, but not the people who abuse the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "survivors names. So, they're claiming"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "that they've got to get the survivors"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "names out. Fine."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> They're legitimate. They are"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "legitimately"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "proactively"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "protecting pedophiles."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> They are protecting pedophiles at this"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "point"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> by redacting the abusers names"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> by"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> the White House. Listen up everybody."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "The [ __ ] White House is protecting"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "pedophiles."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "You hear that? They're [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "protecting pedophiles. That's what the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "[ __ ] they're doing. And they're doing it"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "cuz these people are rich, cuz they were"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "donors. Cuz they're powerful"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "politicians."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "And look, I don't want to stoke baseless"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "allegations, but it's clear to me that"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "there's been some connections to foreign"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "governments."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> Which foreign governments? Well, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "connections of of certainly in the in"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "the files to Israel. We need to know"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "what what those connections are. There"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "have been questions and connections to"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Russia and the Russian oligarchs. We"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "need to know what that information is."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "And from survivors lawyers, they're"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "saying there are other national security"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "uh agencies involved. I mean, think"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "about it. How does Epstein as a school"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "teacher end up with a half a billion"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "dollars? He"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> It's a great question. He didn't invent"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "AI, you know. He's not like those"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "founders who came come to you doing some"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "tech company. He's there and he's"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "getting money from all these people and"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "he's got this ring of sex trafficking"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "going on where he's farming out girls to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "different people and he's having these"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "parties on Epstein's rape island. Like"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "how is this not the biggest scandal that"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "you got these rich powerful people in"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "our society who think they get to play"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "by their own set of rules? You know what"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "what what upsets me, what pisses me off"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "is people like you go and take all this"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "risk with your life in Iraq and"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Afghanistan. The the the guys who"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "whatever you think of Venezuela, the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "guys who took the risk of their lives"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "with that, they have this honor to the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "country sacrifice for our values. And"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "you got rich and powerful people who"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "think they've made a bunch of money who"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "can exploit American girls or girls who"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "are girls are immigrants and have no"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "consequence and get away with it. They"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "are it's unamerican. It's the most"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "unamerican selfish thing that totally"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "degrades the service of people who do"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "things honorable things like wear our"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "the military uniform and serve the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "nation. And that's why I want to stick"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "it to him. I I I this whole Epstein"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "class needs to go. And to me, this is"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the biggest issue in American politics."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "I mean, I'm biased because it's"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "something I've devoted now this a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "my life to, but if we're going to allow"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "rich and powerful people to do whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "they want in this country, and what's"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "more"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "elite impunity than abusing a young"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "girl, if you're going to allow that,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "then you don't have a country. You don't"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "have values. You don't have a democracy."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> Mhm. 100% agree with you. Do you think"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "that this was a blackmail operation?"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> I I I suspect that it was. I mean, I I"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "believe you seen anything"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> from survivors and survivors lawyers. I"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "mean, I I think that there are people uh"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "that were uh rich and powerful folks uh"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "who uh conveniently were were were given"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "access to these parties or access to"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "these girls. uh and um Epstein in turn"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "had a lot of information and a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "context and was able to facilitate a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "of meetings. Now I don't know what his"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "motive was. Was he was he doing what was"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "he doing who was he doing the bidding"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "for? That's why we need the files out."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "You know, you've got a background in"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "intelligence. You you'd have better"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "sense than me. But I know that it's not"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "something doesn't smell right. It"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "doesn't smell right that you have"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "someone contact the FBI in 1996. Maria"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "and say that this guy is abusing young"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "girls and the FBI does doesn't look into"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "it. Not only do they not look into it,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "our government and every person in the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "media has spent the last 30 years saying"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "she was a liar. She never contacted the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "FBI. And it's only because of Massie and"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "my law that part of the documents they"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "came out was her complaint to the FBI in"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "1996. 30 years later, she's vindicated."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "But but there is something deeply rotten"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "about what happened. And I want to know"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "the financial interest who paid this"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "guy, what his motive was to try to get"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "all these rich and powerful people. I"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "mean, don't you think it's a bit odd"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "that he's talking to prime ministers and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "politicians and head bankers and they"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "all are going down to this."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> Everybody thinks it's odd, you know?"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> Everybody thinks it's odd."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> And and if there's nothing to hide,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "here's what I don't understand. All"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "these people are saying it's a hoax."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "It's a conspiracy. Massie and Connor are"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "out there. They're stoking conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "You know how you settle it?"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> What conspiracy?"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> Well, they're like, \"Oh, their their"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "claim, this is how ludicrous their claim"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "is. Their claim is the only bad guy is"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Epstein and Maxwell and everyone else."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "It's all it's all it's just Epstein and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Maxwell who was a pervert and that and"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "we're we're focused on a dead guy who"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "was a pervert and give it up.\" No one"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "else was involved. Okay. If that's what"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "you believe that Epstein and Maxwell"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "pulled this off with,200 girls and"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "survivors and all the girls and and the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "women now are lying about the other rich"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "and powerful people and then he just"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "happened to make a half a billion"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "dollars and he just happened to email"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "every powerful person in the world"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "including uh the current president and"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "past presidents and heads of states"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "around the world. You know, most people"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "can't even shake hands or get within a a"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "thousand feet of a president and this"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "guy knows them all and but it was just"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "that he was a sexual pervert and no one"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "else was involved. If that really is the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "case, then release the damn files."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Release the files and prove Massie and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "me a liar. But there's there's no gray"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "here. Either Massie and I and the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "survivors are telling the truth or we're"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "lying. So expose us. If if you think"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "we're lying, expose us. you'd end you'd"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "end their political careers. But I know"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "that I'm telling the truth. Massie knows"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that he's telling the truth. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "willing to take on the wrath of powerful"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "interest because ultimately until we"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "hold a corrupt class accountable, people"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "aren't going to trust government. And"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "I'm, you know, I'm more liberal than"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "you. I'm a progressive. I want the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "government to do stuff, healthcare,"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "childcare. How do I make that case when"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "people say the government is corrupt? I"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "got You got to have transparency in"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "government. [snorts] What I mean, what"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "are these? What are the files? Who wrote"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "the files? Where did they come from? Are"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they FBI files? Are they Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "files? Are they MSAD's files? Are they"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Russian files? What are the What are the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "files? Who is keeping tabs on all this"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "[ __ ] So, some of the files are the FBI."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "That's the most straightforward thing."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "They're basically 1,200 survivors and"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "their lawyers who meet with an FBI agent"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "and were interviewed and they ask these"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "survivors, tell us what happened to you."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Tell us who else was involved. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "called 302 statements. Those statements"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "should come out. They haven't released a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "single one of those. That's the first"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "thing they should release. And then"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "though the FBI goes and interviews these"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "men, suspects, some of them may be"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "innocent. And I'm not saying everyone"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "who the FBI interviews is guilty, but"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "they have memorandum of that. They say,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "\"Okay, when did you show up to the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "island? What were you doing? Why did you"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "meet Epstein?\" They should release all"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "of that. They don't they have not"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "released that. Then you have So those"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "are the FBI files. Then you have the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Justice Department that took Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "computer and he's they've got all his"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "emails. They've got the photographs."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "They've got his correspondence. They"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "should release all of that. They haven't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "released any of that. We know that"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "evidence in the Epstein uh computer will"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "show who else was involved. Then you've"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "got the Justice Department having these"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "prosecution memos. Why does that matter?"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Cuz there was a brave assistant US"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "attorney who said there's 60 counts"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "against Jeffrey Epstein back in Florida"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "in the early 2000s, 2007. And they told"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "her, \"Drop the case. Only charge him"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "with two counts.\" When does that happen?"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "58 counts vanish. A guy who's raping"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "underage girls only gets charged with"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "two counts, is let out while under"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "arrest to go continue to rape and abuse"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "underage girls. Show us what those other"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "58 counts were. Show us why you decided"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "not to prosecute. And then in 2019,"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "there were co-conspirators who were"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "named. Okay. Epstein wasn't alone."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Suddenly though, those co-conspirators"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "are are released. We don't have to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "prosecute the co-conspirators. Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "there's a prosecution memo explaining"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "why the co-conspirators should have been"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "prosecuted. Release that so we know why"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "you chose to not prosecute people. Who"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "are you protecting? Look, if you're not"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "moved by the fact picturing like a"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "seventh grader being raped on an island"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "or think of like an eighth grader at a"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "party with multi-millionaires and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "politicians being paraded around naked"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "and people with, you know, drinks in"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "their hand laughing. If you're not"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "disgusted by that, be disgusted by the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "fact that rich and powerful people are"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "so influential in this country that they"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "had a president campaign on releasing"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "the files. They've had a House of"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Representatives pass a law, the Senate"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "pass a law, and they still can't get the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "damn files out. Like, doesn't that just"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "make you disgusting?"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> I want to know what the repercussions"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "are. I mean, because the deadline was"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "December 19th, if I remember correctly."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> It's January 9th. No matter where you're"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "watching Shawn Ryan Show from, if you"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "get anything out of this, please like,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "comment, subscribe, and most"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Massie and I will be introducing"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "inherent contempt and Pam Bondi can be"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "personally fined up to $10,000 every"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "day. She's breaking the law and she and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "other people of the Justice Department"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "can be put in jail."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> How would you ever be certain that the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "evidence wasn't destroyed"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> or it hasn't been already?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> Well, look, I you can't be certain, but"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "the vict the survivors lawyers have seen"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "the files. That new president can do it."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> They'll all be pardoned. So, that will"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "never happen."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> You think he he'll pardon all of them?"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Even uh the one issue that is hurting"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "him amongst his base. So why wouldn't he"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "just get the files out?"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> I don't know anybody that's not"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "screaming at the top of their lungs,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "release these damn files."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> The only thing that's going to get this"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "out is the MAGA base."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> What are the repercussions? Are there"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "any repercussions? I haven't seen any"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "politicians have any [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "repercussions ever."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Well, there there there are"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "repercussions. First of all, they"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "thought, okay, they're going to do the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "release and people are going to forget"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "about it. They'll release a bunch of BS"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "and then no one's going to care. And one"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "of the reasons that I appreciate your"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "voice is that you're not you're calling"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "them on that. You're not letting them"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "get away with it. And they were shocked."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Christmas Eve, they come out and say,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "\"Okay, no, no, no. We're we have got"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "more documents.\" Cuz they realized that"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "the the their own base, the MAGA base,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "wasn't letting them uh get away with"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "this. So, they come out uh now in"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "January and they say to the judge,"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "\"We've got 3 million more documents, 5"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "million more documents. we're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "release him in these next next few"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "weeks. And Massie and I went to the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "judge and said, \"You need to supervise"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "this and see how these documents come"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "out.\" Now, if they don't do it, there's"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "three repercussions. Massie and I will"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "be introducing inherent contempt next"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "week, which is only requires the House"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "to pass it, and Pam Bondi can be"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "personally fined up to $10,000 every day"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that the documents don't come out."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "That's it."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> No, that's that's the first. The second"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "thing is she's breaking the law and she"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "and other people of the Justice"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Department can be uh put in jail. I"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "mean, they they can be prosecuted. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "I don't think Donald Trump's going to do"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "it, but we're going to have a new"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "president and that new president can do"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> They'll all be pardoned. So, that will"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "never happen."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> You think they'll he'll pardon all of"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "them? Even uh"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't he? Well,"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the they're career Justice Department"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "officials who if they're along with"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "this, I mean, he'd have to pardon a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "of people. There hundreds of attorneys r"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "reviewing this stuff. It'd be a pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "big conspiracy if everyone is breaking"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "breaking the law. But yeah, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "look, it may be a case that it takes a"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "new president to get all of this out and"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "some people get away with it. But, you"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "know, I'm concerned about the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "destruction of evidence, too. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "making sure that the evidence is not"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "destroyed. The"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> How would you do that? How would you dis"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> How would you ever be certain that the"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "evidence wasn't destroyed or it hasn't"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "been already?"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Well, look, I you can't be certain, but"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "the vict the survivors lawyers have seen"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the files. Some of the survivors"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "lawyers, so they would know if there's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "things missing. They're career justice"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "department officials who've seen the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "files and it it now if you're part of"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the group that are destroying these"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "files, you're taking a big risk because"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "you're you're violating the law. You"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "could be prosecuted. I mean, it's not"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "just people in Trump's circle. you're"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "you're a career prosecutor. You you're"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "really uh risking your career if the if"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "there's prosecution. So, I I I I do"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "think we're going to get to the truth of"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "the matter. Whether we're going to get"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "accountability for Bondi uh and Patel, I"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "mean, we're we're we're trying"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "everything we can, but ultimately if"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Trump pardons them, yeah, they they get"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "they get away with it."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> I mean, let's just reverse engineer"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "this. So you say the only thing that"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "needs to be maybe you didn't say the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "only thing the way you took it the main"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "thing that needs to be redacted is 1,200"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "names"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> correct"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> the victim's names."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> You're a Silicon Valley guy."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> You mean to tell me we can't create a"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "[ __ ] AI program that just redacts the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "names in about I don't know 3 minutes."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> All 3 million files in there just blacks"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "them out. You can't all the people over"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "there in Silicon Valley, Palunteer, all"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "these things. They can't they can't"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "figure out how to make a program that"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "just redacts that real quick."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> They could. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> they could. I know. I'm being a little"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "facicious here, but"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> but they could. I Yeah. No, look, I"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "mean, obviously they they want to drag"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "their feet. They they'll claim, okay,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "that's not enough. There needs to be"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "human check on AI. Fine. I Massie and I"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "are less concerned about the time. If"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "they had come back to us and said,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "\"Look, you're you're you're pushing too"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "fast on December 19th. We're going to do"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "it by March 15th.\" Fine. The problem we"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "have is they're not releasing the actual"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "documents. They're they're releasing"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "fluff. I mean, here and there they gave"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "us something, but they're not releasing"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the witness memorandum. They're not"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "releasing the Epstein files. They're"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "protecting people. And and you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Trump is out there himself saying,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "\"Yeah, I got to a lot of people get"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "hurt. I don't want my my buddies to get"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "hurt.\" Like that's what I don't get. I I"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "I really don't get why he doesn't just"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "come out and get these files out. And"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "what what is the force? Like what what"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "is holding it back? There's some force"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "more powerful than just campaign donors"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "involved in covering this up cuz"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "otherwise it doesn't make sense. It"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "doesn't make sense why they're fighting"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "so hard to keep these files. Like you"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "can say a lot of things about Donald"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Trump. He understands politics. He don't"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "get elected president twice. He knows"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "this thing is hurting him. It's the one"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "issue that is hurting him amongst his"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "base. So why wouldn't he just get the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "files out and that's what Marjorie"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Taylor Green was saying like this thing"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "was never about trying to go after Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "and there's actually no evidence that"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "I've seen that he was involved in the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "abuse of underage girls. We haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "any evidence of that. There other rich"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "and powerful men. So why if you're the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "president wouldn't you just say okay"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "like get it out there. I don't get it."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "There's some force"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "bigger than that that is holding back"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "us getting to the truth. And that's what"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "should be disturbing to Americans. Other"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "than that, like our culture is needs a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "moral reckoning that this that we allow"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "this to happen. What are the forces that"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "are preventing us from doing this? And"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "are and are we going to get people"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "actually willing to stand up for to it?"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "happy. It seems like you got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "people standing up to it. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "don't know what else everybody can do,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "but everybody's screaming at I don't I"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "don't know anybody that's not screaming"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "at the top of their lungs, release these"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "damn files,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> except the administration."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> Invite the vice president back. Ask him."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Well, he could get involved."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> Oh, they're not going to come back here."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Ro,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> really?"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> No, he he's got But Trump may not. He"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "needs to He's going to He wants to run."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "He's got to come back in 20."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> I hope he does. I would love for him to"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "come back, but I don't know. I've been"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "pretty hard on him lately."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> Well, I I I I just think, look, he was a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "We disagree. We go back and forth. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "but I think he could be a constructive"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "force here. He should He should be the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "guy saying, \"Look, let's get get these"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "files out.\" Like, does he want to have"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "this as a liability? Why? I mean, he"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "said it three years ago. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> I just retweeted it today. Yeah. No, I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "mean he he should be he should be out"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "there saying get all the stuff out"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "there. Like this is a new generation of"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "politicians, Democrats like Roana, May"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Massie, Marjorie Taylor Green, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "it's a previous generation that did all"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "this horrible stuff. Expose it. The abs,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "you know, when Democrats have fallen, I"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "haven't had any sympathy. First guy"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "taken out was a British ambassador. He"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "constructed Tony Blair's victory. The"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "reality is Larry Summers was uh Treasury"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Secretary for Bill Clinton and he was"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "his is caught up in all of this and I"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "said that you know I support if the"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "Clintons coming and testifying fine if"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "it's Democrats Republicans I don't care"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "doesn't care."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> What was the deal with the Clintons?"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "They were supposed to show up."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> They should show up. They're I support"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "that. He's the Republican. He said,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "\"Look, let's have them in front of the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "committee.\" And I they're scheduling it,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "but but I've said, \"Yeah, they should"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "they should answer what they know.\""}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> So, they did not refuse to show up."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> They have not refused to show up."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> Okay. So, that's"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, media [ __ ] It"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> it's now the scheduling like they need"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "to do it soon and we need to have they"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "should show up. They should do the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "deposition and and you know, but there"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "there shouldn't be a selective release"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "like don't have the Justice Department"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "just put Bill Clinton's pictures in"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "there because you know you want to make"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "political headlines. Release everything."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "I mean, so play it straight. Massie and"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "I have played it straight. If it's 90%"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Democrats in their files, I don't care."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "If it's 90% Republicans, I don't care."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Van should have the same thing. He's not"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "in the files. He's in his 40s. You know,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "it's a bunch of people who are now in"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "their 70s and 80s who were caught up in"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "all of this stuff. It it it there needs"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "to be a cleaning. That's why I've said"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "this Epstein class needs to go. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "think we need, you know, we we we the"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "only thing that's going to get this out"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "is the MAGA base cuz that's that's what"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "got the bill passed. You know, Trump had"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "I don't think he even realized he signed"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "my bill. I mean, we we kept saying it"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "was a messy bill because it was a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Republican bill. I don't think he's"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "like, \"All right, sign Roana's bill.\" He"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "didn't he didn't have a signing"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "ceremony. We had Massie and I called. He"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "didn't want to do a signing ceremony for"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "the bill. But the point is we had 70"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Republicans willing to vote for my bill"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "in defiance of his opposition. Then he"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "realized, okay, I don't want that. So he"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "says, I'll sign the bill. The only thing"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "that'll get him to release these files"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "is a Maria says, look, we're with you on"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "a lot of things. We voted for you three"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "times. We disagree with Kana on Medicare"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "for all. We disagree with him on"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Venezuela. you disagree with him on uh"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "on on calling it ICE. We're with you,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Mr. President. But you know what? This"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "MAGA, this Epstein stuff, he's right"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "about that. Release these files. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "what we need. His base needs to demand"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "this off of They are though. They are."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Am I missing something? They are. I"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "don't think they've been vocal. Not to"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "the point where where he thinks that he"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "could lose them. I mean, they he thinks,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "okay, they're upset on this one thing."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "They need to say like this is a red line"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "for us because"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "you told us there were pedophiles in"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "part of the government. You told us"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "they're rich and powerful people who are"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "corrupt. You said you were going to"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "drain the swamp. You never pretended to"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "be a perfect person. We knew, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "okay, like many people, you had warts in"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "your life, but you were going to clean"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "up the system. You were going to expose"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the system. You haven't done that. Do"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "that. that that that that that whether"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "it's Vance or Trump, they've got to get"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "these files out and they they think"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "it's, you know, it's not the central"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "issue. The cost of living is an issue,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "affordability is an issue. I get all of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "that, but there's something deeper."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "There's something called morality."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "There's something called uh country's"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "values. That's what this is getting at."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": ">> They know this is they know this is a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "big deal. They're Oh, man. It makes me"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "so [ __ ] angry."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "How many how many how many abusers do"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "you think were involved? Do you know?"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> I think there are two types of three"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "types of abusers."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "The ones who were actually"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "raped underage girls."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "I would say maybe at least"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "a dozen or a handful. I mean, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "saying that that's the the the biggest"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "number, but I there are people from from"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "just conversations with survivors. We'll"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "know once the files are out. The second"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "people who showed up at these parties"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "and saw young girls parading around and"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "knew they were being abused and didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "say anything. That number is in the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "hundreds and covered it up. And then the"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "third is people who were trafficking"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "girls who were slightly overage 1920"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "and being exploited who may have been"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "raped as when they were underage and"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "saying okay yeah do you have a girl for"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "me where do I meet her and technically"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "it was uh over the age of consent but"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "anyone who looks at that will know they"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "were abusing these girls in terms of the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "emotional physical damage to to to to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "these girls and all of that is in the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "files."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "Jeez. How long was this going on?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Decades."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Decades."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> Decades."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> 20, 30 years."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> 20, 30 years. That's why when people"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "they do the gotcha question sometimes."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Oh, Ro, you you guys didn't speak out"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "about this enough in the Biden"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "administration. And first of all, I did"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "speak out in 2019, but second, I say,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "yeah, we should have. We were wrong."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "This country has been asleep. Like"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "that's not a that's not a uh a a a"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "reason not to care now. Now now I've"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "gotten to know these survivors. Like"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "yeah, all of us were guilty for 25"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "years. Uh other than a few journalists"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "for not caring for abandoning these"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "girls. Fine. Guilty is charged. Now"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "let's move on. Let's actually do"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "something about it and get these files"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "out. And that that that that's the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "honest truth. Like this is not a Trump"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "thing or a Vance thing. This is an"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "America thing. It's a crisis that the We"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "didn't care about these girls. We treat"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "them treated them as abandoned"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "property for the gratification of of of"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "rich and powerful people. No matter"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "where you're watching Shawn Ryan show"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "from, if you get anything out of this,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "please like, comment, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "I call him the forest gump of cover-ups."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": ">> You never know what you're going to get."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> If the government needed a cover up,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Stan Poter would be there. If you get a"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "settlement from the Epstein victim's"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "compensation fund, you've got to sign an"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "NDA, which says that you will not go"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "after any of your other perpetrators. He"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "is caught on tape instructing these"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Iranians how to best smuggle arms. Lo"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "and behold, the Department of Justice"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "loses the tape, and that's treasonous."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Essentially what you've got an"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "intelligence out being covered up by an"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "intelligence out."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> I've gotten a beat on the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "victim's compensation fund"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "and that's really"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "a superlative cover up tool."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "There's two 225 women have applied for"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "settlements from the Epstein victim's"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "compensation fund and the fund has"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "awarded 150 settlements. eight women"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "have declined."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "But if you get a settlement from the"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Epstein victim's compensation fund,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "you've got to sign an NDA, which says"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that you will not go after any of your"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "other perpetrators."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "So, it's shutting down,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> meaning"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "you can't go after anybody else. You're"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "going to get this settlement."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Anybody that was in that black book is"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "no is off limits to everybody who"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "signed."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "that the Epstein victim's compensation"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "was started by Jordana Feldman and then"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "David Boy and David Boy is a power"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "breaker power broker attorney and New"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "York. Well, he's you know he's a famous"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "attorney but uh he David Boyce has a"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "very very dark side and we don't even"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "know the criteria"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "that they use"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "for awarding settlements."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "These two therapists"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "who I talked to, they"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "they helped their clients apply for the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "victim's compensation. The therapists"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "who had the the clients that were under"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "10 when they said they were traffic by"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Ebstein, um they were not awarded any"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "kind of settlement even though one of"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the kids knew a lot about the inside of"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein's home. And both"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "therapists who I've talked to felt that"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "they weren't awarded any money because"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "it went against the cover story. The"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "cover story by the mainstream media is"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "that the kids were 14. There was anybody"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "younger than 14. That's the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "media. So because it went against the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "cover story, it those"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "uh clients weren't awarded any money"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "from the victims. But and we have no"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "idea, as I said, of the criteria that's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "used. I mean, it's it it's really"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "random. And some get"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "six figure settlements and some get"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "seven figure settlements. We don't"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "really know. I mean, it's it it's not"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "transparent at all."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Who's And it's this attorney that's in"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "charge of it. Uh Jordana Feldman and"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "David Boy were the architects of of the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "victim's compensation fund."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Where's the money come from?"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Uh Epstein's estate"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "which"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "has a lot of money and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "and David Boy has shown that"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "he's not an exemplary paragon of ethics."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> How so?"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "He's quite fond of using Black Cube, the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "retired MSAD mercenaries. He uh"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "represented Harvey Weinstein"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "and Rose McGawan was one of the first"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "actresses that came out and said, you"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "know, she'd been molested by by Harvey"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Weinstein. And David Boy"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "deployed Black Cube against her. And"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "they infiltrated her life under false"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "pretenses and tried to get her to say"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "incriminating things that could be used"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "against her, which she didn't. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "she ultimately figured out that these"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "guys were um I don't know if she figured"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "out they were black, but they ultimately"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "she ultimately figured out. And then the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "New York Times was writing"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "an article about Epstein. were a number"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "of reporters and he deployed Black Cube"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "against them, these New York Times"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "reporters, trying to find dirt on them"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and at the same time he was representing"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "the New York Times in a liel suit. I"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "mean, total conflict of interest, but it"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "wasn't even a speed bump. and David"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Boyce, Thorrannos, uh, Elizabeth Holmes,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "the charlatan who came up with Thyrannos"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "and how it was going to be able to take"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "your blood and tell you everything that"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "you needed to know about your life. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "people started to attack her and David"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Boy deployed"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Black Cube on them, too. He was actually"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "on Thranos board."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "this is this is the kind of guy that"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "we've got that's overseeing the victim's"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "compensation, the Epstein victim's"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "compensation fund."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> Wow. What when did you find out about"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Black Cube?"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "at some point between the last time I"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "was here"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> and how would you describe them?"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> Well, they're retired MSAD agents and"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> only MSAD agents. I think it's well"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "they're out of Israel so they might be"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "other type of Israeli intelligence"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "agents but they're definitely retired"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "MSAD and they do dirty deeds"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "but they don't do dirty deeds done dirt"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "cheap they just do dirty deeds and they"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "I think they charge an exorbitant amount"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "for them"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "and we've got David Boy"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "using Black Cube to protect Harvey"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Weinstein and the same guy is one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "architects of the Epstein victim's"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "compensation fund, which really shows"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "pretty much out of right out of the gate"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "that something is seriously a right with"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "the Epstein victim's compensation fund."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. What um so I mean what is"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "how do they operate? How does Black Cube"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "operate? Let's hear a scenario."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "It all depends upon it's it's gathering"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "intelligence on on people. Um like"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "they went after David Boy deployed Black"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Cube on these journalists that were"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "writing an article on Harvey Weinstein"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "and they were just looking for dirt on"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "them that they could use to dissuade"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "them to continue writing that article."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "And with Rose McGawen, they kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "infiltrated her life as like like"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "friends. And I mean, who knows what they"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "were trying to do with her. I I mean,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "probably trying to get her to"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "exonerate Harvey Weinstein, but but she"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "never did. I mean, and she's been pretty"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "much banished from"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Even though a bunch of women came out,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "she was like one of the first and the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "most vocal."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "And Harvey Weinstein had gotten away"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "with that stuff for years."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. It's,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "you know, it's I' I've kind of come to"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "think that Hollywood and Washington DC"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "have a have a certain kind of person."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Um, gee, I wonder what leads you to"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "believe that."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "they're both, it it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Both people in Hollywood and DC,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "it's a power thing. They they they have"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "a tremendous amount of power. Um, people"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "in Hollywood have the power to to really"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "sculpt"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Americans attitudes"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "about a lot of different things. And of"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "course, people in Washington DC have the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "power to make laws that govern all of"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Hollywood Babylon, there there was a"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "book written by a guy named Kenneth"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "Anger. Kind of a nasty piece of work,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "but he wrote a book called Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Babylon. And um"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "someone needs to write a a book called"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "uh PTOIC on the u Sodom and Gomorrah on"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the battoomeac. I mean that that I think"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "that would be a good book. That might"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "even be one of my next books. I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "know. Sodom and Gomorrah on the PTOAC by"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Nick Bryant."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> It'll be a good one."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "with David Boy, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "he's handled all this litigation"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "and these women have to sign these NDAs."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "So the government has worked very hard"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "to cover up Epstein, but it cannot tell"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "these women that they can't sue their"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "perpetrators, these other perpetrators."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "But if you get money and sign that NDA,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "that that victim's compensation fund is"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "doing something that the government"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "can't."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> Why do you think that uh he hasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "employed Black Cube on you?"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> You know, maybe he has. I'm just kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "too obtuse to know."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "I mean I mean I know I've had one death"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "threat. Um, but I might have had others."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "I'm just I'm I'm just too much of a I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "too thickheaded to"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "I I'm not inclined towards paranoia. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "um, you know, who knows what happens. I"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "don't know if if you're if you write the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "kind of stuff that I'd write, um,"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "you cannot really be paranoid."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "That would that'd be if I was if I had"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "paranoid inclinations, I'd still be"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "underneath my bed."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "What else have you uncovered?"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> So, what's really interesting"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "is when David Boy started taking on"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "these clients,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "these Epstein victims,"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "he immediately or quickly conscripted a"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "guy named Stan Pottinger"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "who was an assistant US attorney"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "general. And I call him the forest gump"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "of cover-ups. If you needed a if you"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "need if the government needed a cover"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "up, Stan Poter would be there. He"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "covered up Ken Kent State where the four"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "students got shot by National Guardsmen."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Um, there was a tape, the Justice"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Department had a tape of those soldiers"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "being ordered to shoot,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "the grand jury that Pinger oversaw,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "that tape was never played. And"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "actually, that tape didn't come out till"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "like 2005."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "So, he covered that up. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "the the FBI had a program called COINTEL"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Pro in which it completely trampled on"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "the rights of Americans, open mail and"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "uh it"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "it sent a co during this period a letter"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "was sent to Martin Luther King who was"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "about to get the Nobel Peace Prize and"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "it had"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "I think it had like some tapes of King"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "having an affair"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "and the letter which I believe was"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "written by William Svin who is like the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "number three guy in the told King that"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "he needed to commit suicide"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "before he um accepted the Nobel Prize or"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "these uh these tapes would come out."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Kretta King his wife was called and told"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "about his affairs."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "So it it was really cointel pro was"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "really nasty especially like with the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "American Indian movement and also the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "black panthers and there's evidence that"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "co-intel pro definitely contributed to"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "the death of Fred Hampton who was uh a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "black panther in um Chicago but there"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "was a member of the American any"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "movement named Emory Aquish"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "and the the FBI floated uh information"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that she was an informant and she was"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "murdered by two members of the American"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Indian movement because they thought she"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "was informant. So the church hearings"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "which looked into COE pro found all this"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "stuff out about what had been going on"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "and they had 20,000 pages of documents"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "and they'd interviewed a number of FBI"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "agents and"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Stamp Pottinger was going to come in and"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "he was going to exact justice and no one"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "got indicted. Not a single person was"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "indicted uh for co-intel probe when wow"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> when stamping was the assistant attorney"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "general"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> and Richard Helms the the CIA had a a"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "program called operation chaos where"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "they were also doing domestic spying and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "stamper was going to exact uh justice"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "with that and uh Richard Helms testified"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "before Congress"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "that he hadn't"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "that no Americans had been spied on. And"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "then the church hearings found out that"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "a lot of Americans have been spied on"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "and their mail had been opened and other"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "things. And Stan Pon was going to get to"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "the bottom of that."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "And Richard Helms was uh charged with"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "two misdemeanors and charged and and had"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "to pay $2,000."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "And it's kind of interesting. Stamp"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "Perure was also he went out with Gloria"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Steinum for nine years. Now she wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "CIS also"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "the founder of the American"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Americans or women's liberation. I mean"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Steinum was getting money from the CIA."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Now she said that she was getting money"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "in 59 through 61. But I found an article"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "in a feminist magazine out of um San"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Francisco that she was getting money"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "from the CIA for the majority of the"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "60s. So her and Stan Poner were a were a"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "couple. And um CIA assets and love, what"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "a what a wonderful story. But when Stan"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Pottinger left"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "the Department of Justice and he became"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "an outright criminal, uh there was the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "October surprise"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "where the Iranians had taken a number of"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "hostages"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Carter was trying to get the hostages"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "back and it was really making Carter"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "look weak."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "And some people from the Reagan campaign"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "went to the Iranians and said, \"If you"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "hold those hostages until Reagan is"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "elected,"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "we we'll sell arms to you uh very"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "cheaply.\" It was Iran Contra and"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "and Panja was in on the according to the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "president of Iran, Prager was in on the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "the ground floor negotiations of Iran"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Contra. And then now this is kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "amazing. He is caught on tape"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "instructing these Iranians how to best"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "smuggle arms from the US to Iran. I mean"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "they they got him. He's he's on tape"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "talking to these two Iranians about it"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "lo and behold"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "the Department of Justice"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "loses the tape."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "So um and that paragon of integrity"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "Rudolph Giuliani was overseeing the"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "case. So Stan I mean and that's"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "treasonous. I mean to facilitate uh arm"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "sale to to an enemy. I mean that's"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "that's outright treason but ponder your"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "walk. So here is the guy that David Boy"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "conscripted"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "to help with all this litigation and"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "it's very obvious that Poner has had a"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "background in intelligence"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "and Epste was an intelligence op. So"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "essentially what you've got with Pinger"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "is you've got an intelligence op being"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "covered up by an intelligence app."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Ryan show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "I've had a couple guys who say to me,"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "\"Well, you know, you got on America's"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Got Talent.\" And so that's how your"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "whole career started. And I go, I go,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "\"Have you tried out?\" And they're like,"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "\"No.\" And I go, \"Guess what? I tried out"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "twice before I got on.\" And the third"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "time took me three tries. So many. And"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "one guy was like, \"I tried out. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "get on.\" I go, \"Well, did you give up?\""}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "I go, \"So you already you already gave"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "up too early. Was that your goal?\" So I"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "tried out for that show three times. The"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "third time, go figure, I got third"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "place. And that's the first part of my"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "career where you could kind of say there"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "was rocket fuel where it lit a spark and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "it started things. The momentum began"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "and that was 10 years ago now. So it's"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "kind of like every 10 years big things"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "have kind of happened."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Right on. Right on. I mean and where do"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "you where do you go to study this? I"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "mean it sounds you kind of mentioned at"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the beginning you know you go to a magic"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "shop. It's expensive. Most people don't"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "want to pay that. But I mean to get to"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "where to get to the level you're at. I"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "mean, I don't Is that a mentor or are"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "you able to figure all this out on your"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "own?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Where I'm at now is uh is very much uh"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "innovating. So, the only thing that can"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "separate you from your competition at"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "certain fields is either do something"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "better than everyone else,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> do something different than everyone"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "else or do both. And that's where you"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "can really become number one. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "where you have to you have to innovate"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "and be different and constantly keep"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "perfecting your craft and doing new"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "bigger things."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Gotcha. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> but I think that's in any industry."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> How do you study? How do you"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> So for me, I have like a series of core"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "foundational skills that I've learned"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "and now I keep innovating. But the start"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "of it was I did books and videos. Then I"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "had a couple mentors as I went along"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "doing magic. For mentalism, it's very"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "different because mentalism for me is is"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "I start with the end goal and I work"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "backwards. I reverse engineer where I"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "want to end up."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> Did you give me an example?"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Perfect example. So, if if I'm doing"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "something like some of my most famous"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "viral clips are with football teams, and"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "a great example is something I did with"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Joe Burrow, which is arguably one of my"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "most viral clips. So, I said to myself,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "if somebody is a football fan and"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "they're watching Monday Night Football"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "and suddenly I come on and they're like,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "who's this guy? I want to watch"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "football. I start with the premise of"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "who cares about me. Nobody wants to"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "watch me right there. They want to watch"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "football. I need to win them over"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "instantly. So, it's not going to be a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "card trick cuz who the hell cares about"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "cards? I'm watching football. I want to"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "know something that if I'm a football"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "viewer, what is the holy grail? What is"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the holy grail? Holy grail is that's Joe"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Burrow. He just signed a contract for"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "$275 million. You know what I want to"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "know? I want to know where he's going to"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "throw the ball to next. Who's he going"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "to throw the ball to? Is he going to do"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "a running play or a passing play?"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "Where's the ball going to go? That would"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "be incredible, right? So, I decided to"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "start with the end of I'm going to show"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "you that I know exactly who Joe Burrow"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "was about to throw that ball to in this"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "room. And I'm going to make every step"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "be more amazing than the one before. And"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "so, I started with that as my end goal."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "And I worked backwards of how could I"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "possibly pull this off? And now, how do"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "I pull it off? Well, I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "tell you that, but I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "that the same way a chef has a series of"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "ingredients, like I've got steak, I've"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "got fish, I got chicken, I got tofu. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "gonna create a recipe with all these"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "ingredients and all these little skills"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "and tactics I have in that room of how"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "I'm gonna pull this off and I've got to"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "fool Joe because if Joe's not buying it,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "I don't get a genuine authentic"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "reaction. He's not going to fake it for"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "me. Anyone who says in the comments, the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "funniest comment was some guy goes,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "\"Dude, totally totally scripted. He"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "bought Joe off.\" And I go, \"Brother, I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "wish I had enough money to bribe Joe"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Burrow to do what I want.\" And that"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "comment had like 30,000 likes because"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "it's so funny. It's so silly. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "this guy didn't fake it for me. He Why"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "would he? Of course not. And then when"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "you do that for 15 of the NFL teams and"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "NABA teams and then I did it for Jeff"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Bezos recently, you know, like no one's"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "faking it for me. That's that's why"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "people at this point understand that"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "this is I don't want to call it real"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "because I'm not a real mind reader. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "telling you that from the jump. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "skills I'm using, these are real"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "authentic reactions. Nothing is"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "scripted. Nothing is staged. I can't"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "stage it. Would I stage it and script"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "it? 100%. You kidding me? There's no"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "moral compass that I wouldn't I would do"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "in a second. It would get out. It would"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "get out. It would ruin my business if it"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "was scripted or staged. It would faking"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "it isn't a long-term play for success."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "How do you test your stuff?"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> So, that's the best question you could"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "have asked. Because of the volume of"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "media that I've done, hundreds of TV"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "appearances, some of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "podcasts in the world and now the Shawn"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Ryan Show, I do things that are"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "different every time. And when I make up"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "things like I was on Howard Stern"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "recently, the day after I was on Jimmy"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Fallon, both things I did were the first"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "time I ever did them."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> I am dead serious because I can't I"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "create things for the people I perform"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "for. So the thing I did for Jimmy"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Fallon, I'd never done before. So, the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "reason if you want to ask me why I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "successful, I'm going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "clearcut. Most people that do what I do"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "not have the risk appetite or risk"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "talents that I do. It's Travis Pastana"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "jumping out of a plane with no parachute"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "and getting it from someone else every"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "time. I do different things very"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "frequently and other people aren't"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "willing to take the level of risk that I"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "am. And when it goes right, it goes"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "right exponentially better. And that's"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "how I separate myself from the path."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Always something new. Well, always"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "something that goes bigger. And when you"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "see other people that do what I do and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "you see it, you'll be like, \"That's"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "formulaic.\" They're just trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "they're trying to copy O's. And you see"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "it because And occasionally you don't."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "And I love that. I'm not like I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "competitive, but rising tides raise all"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "ships. I have no problem. I'm kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "I'm leveling up my profession for"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "everyone. So, I am I know that I'm the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "shiny toy right now and that at a"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "certain point I will hit a peak and I"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "will go down, but I'll continue trying"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "to do that for as long as I can, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "going to elevate the people around me"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "that do what I do because it's good for"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "all of our business. I'm trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "create a category where mentalism,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "nobody knows what that is. Two years"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "ago, very few people did. Two years from"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "now, when you say to somebody, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "what's mentalism or who's your favorite"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "mentalist? I want that to be Kleenex"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Google. You mean like O's the mentalist?"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "That's the answer. household name"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "directly connected to what I do and it's"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "created a path where everyone knows what"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "this is this niche field."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Gotcha. Gotcha. So, how long does it"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "take you to"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "what would you what would we call it?"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> A trick."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> A trick."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> How long does it take you to develop a"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "trick? I mean, when you're when you're"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "when you're going on Jimmy Fallon, when"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "you're going to perform in front of Jeff"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Bezos or or or any anybody, I mean, how"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "long does that take from"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> I do my best when I'm shoved into a"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "corner and necessity is the mother of"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "invention. So, it's taken me years and"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "years to get better about not being a"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "procrastinator. Like, I talk about how"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "much I procrastinate and how, but"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "unfortunately for me, if you told me I"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "have something the biggest thing in my"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "life in 6 months, it's going to I'm not"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "going to be able to pull it off. I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "going to start doing it. But my best"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "ideas are going to come 6 days before."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> 6 days before."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> That's where I'm going to get the So"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "today, like even today, what I plan to"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "do with you, what I'm actually going to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "end up doing happened in the shower 2"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "hours ago before I came here. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "decided to change one thing entirely. I"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "said that's"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> I don't know if you want to do that to"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "me. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> I know it sounds weird. My best ideas"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "are in the shower. And my best idea is"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "when I'm running, when I'm in motion, or"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "when I have no electronics near me. Like"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "the phone is just I wish I could get rid"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "of it. It's the worst addiction that's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "ever happened. I believe that it will 20"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "years from now, we'll look back at what"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "we've done to ourselves and it's been an"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "experiment in destroying our attention"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "spans. And I'm guilty, too. But when I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "free and clear of external stimuli, my"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "brain goes into this state, this flow"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "state where I can think better and"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "clearer. And it's when I'm running long"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "distance. Um, and it's when I'm in the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "shower. I don't know why, but in the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "shower, there's this weird thing where"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "my brain just hyperfocuses. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "\"This is better. This is going to be"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "better.\" So, for Jimmy Fallon, I came up"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "with it in the 5 days before. Howard"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Stern was a little earlier. It was 2 and"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "a half weeks before because I know"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Howard and so I know how he thinks and I"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "know it would appeal to him and I I've"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "got him registered. For you, it's been"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "very instrument. this just right now,"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "this hour and a half since I've walked"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "into here,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> it's like picking a lock and you hear it"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "click, click click,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> I'm starting to get your number pretty"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "dialed in, which feels good. No matter"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "where you're watching Sean Ryan show"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "from, if you get anything out of this,"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "please like, comment, subscribe, and"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "What are those paintings of George Bush"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "throwing airplanes at two Jenga towers"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "at Epstein [music] Island?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> If you want an 8-year-old, they'll get"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "you an 8-year-old. When Clinton was"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "president, Epstein was providing him"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "with women."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> So, what is he holding the entire US"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "government on blackmail?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": ">> A guy like that couldn't blackmail the"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "most powerful men in the United States"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "and the world. He has to have an"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "organization behind him. But if you"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "decide to get off the yacht, the people"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "on the yacht are going to make sure that"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "you drown. The government has been"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "completely unwilling"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "to prosecute the procurers and the"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "perpetrators in the Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "network."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> Well, it sounds like we're and I I know"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "we're going to get into this, but it"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "sounds like what did you say her name?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> Sarah Kellen,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> the other one."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Glain Maxwell."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Yeah, Glain sounds like she's got a"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "pretty cush uh prison sentence."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> Well, she's in a dormatory now. And"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "generally people that are in"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "dormitories, prison dormitories, they've"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "been exemplary prisoners, they're"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "they've done a lot of time and they're"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "getting ready to get released."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "And Maxwell got into a dormatory after"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "like 2 years. So obviously"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "she's been given very cush [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "uh circumstances."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> Why do you think that why do you think"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the media is so hesitant to cover this"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Um, [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "I can speak from my own experience."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> Well, not hesitant. They just won't"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "cover."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> They won't cover it. Um, the media."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> Are they pro"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "sex trafficking? Is that what it is?"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "They like child sex trafficking."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> Well, the media will talk about things"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "that are salacious. Anything that's"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "salacious with Ebstein, the media will"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "talk about. But when you try to get into"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "justice,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "the media won't go there at all. In"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "January, I was contacted by CNN. There"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "was going to be a big Epstein dump,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "document dump, and I was contacted by"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "CNN. And because I was the guy that put"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the black book on the internet, they"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "wanted me to take part. And I talked to"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the producer, and then we were taxiing."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "I said, \"I'd also like to talk about"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Epstein Justice. It's this organization"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "I've started where we're trying to get"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "justice for Jeffrey Epstein's victims."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "And then I got a a text about I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "know 20 minutes later. Well, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Nick, we're going to go a different"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "direction."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> Yeah. And that's happened to me."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> So, they don't So, the mainstream media,"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "they don't want any they don't want any"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "justice for these victims."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> No. I mean, it's it's so bizarre to me"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "that you've got the mainstream media out"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "there"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "and none of them are screaming for"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "justice. Jeffrey Ebstein trafficked"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "underage girls for 25 years."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> What is the youngest girl on record that"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "he trafficked?"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Okay, so on record it's 13. The cover"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "story is 14, but there were girls"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "younger than actually 13. [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> And I know a therapist. She's an eminent"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "therapist. Over the years, I I've been"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "researching writing about child"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "trafficking for 22 years. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "National Center on Sexual Exploitation"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "puts on an international summit. And"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "I've spoken at the summit three times."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "and the uh international site for the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "study of trauma dissociation"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "which is a group of therapists that work"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "with victims that have been abu you know"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "gone through horrific abuse I've spoken"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "at their international conference so"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "when it comes to people in the"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "anti-trafficking community and also"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "people that work with victims of uh"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "trafficking"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "I've got a pretty good name and I've"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "befriended a couple of them that have"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "told me that and one of is really an"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "eminent psychologist. She I I mean I"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "can't because of our confidentiality I"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "can't but but she people would know her"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> and she had a victim. She was counseling"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "someone who she felt was under 10 years"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "old"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "when she was traveled by Epstein. And"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "then I know another therapist who's an"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "esteemed therapist, very esteemed"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "therapist, who has another client that"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "was under 10 years old when they were"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "trafficed by Epstein. Now, and these"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "kids can describe Epstein's home. They"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "can describe"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "parks by his that they were taken to by"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "his home in New York. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "they know and and these two therapists"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "firmly believe now they're young women"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "um that they're telling the truth. And"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "the thing is, when I wrote the Franklin"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Scandal, I mean, King and Spence, the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "two primary pimps in that network, they"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "were into like adolescent boys,"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "but these guys are psychopaths."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Ebstein's a psychopath. Maxwell's a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "psychopath. If if you want an"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "eight-year-old, they'll get you an"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "eight-year-old. I mean, that's just the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "way it is. I mean, it's not like they've"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "they're constricted by any"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "[clears throat] type of morality."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> I mean, so how would they"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "I think we talked about how they got the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "other victims that were 16, 17, you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "how how do they how are they capturing"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "8-year-olds?"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> They were kidnapping them."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> Well, they were No, they were buying"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "them in Eastern Europe. They were"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "actually buying children. Epstein and"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Jean Lupernell were buying children in"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Eastern Europe. And what I've seen like"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "in the Franklin scandal, Boytown was"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "being plundered by Lawrence King, one of"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the pedophilic pimps. And the number two"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "guy at Boytown at that point, his name"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "was uh Father James Kelly. I hate to"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "call him father, but his name was James"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Kelly. And he'd molested a number of"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "kids in upstate New York. And the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Catholic Church in its infinite wisdom"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "put him at Boytown."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "And I was told by every year of the the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "the students of Boytown like the mayor."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "A boytown is like an incorporated city."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "And I was told by a former mayor of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Boytown"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "that he felt that Father Kelly"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "was compromised and was and and that's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "how these kids were able to get passes."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "for the weekend"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "because and that you know it's kind I I"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "was just looking when I was looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Boytown I was just looking for kids that"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "have been trafficked by Lawrence King"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "but then I encountered like six kids"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "that have been molested by James Kelly."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "it's it's shocking the Catholic Church"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "knew what he was about"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "in upstate New York and then they moved"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "him to Boytown. They have a history of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "this though, don't they?"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. The Catholic Churches moves"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the priests. I mean, that's why they're"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "getting sued"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "into oblivion now is because they were"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "fully cognizant of the the behavior of"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "these priests and then they would move"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "them to a different parish where"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> they just picked up a Catholic priest"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "here in Franklin for doing that. I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "know if they charged him or if he got a"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "guilty verdict, but yeah, they did. It"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "was I don't know maybe"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "actually I think it was right before"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "last Christmas when it came out. No, it"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "was right after. It was right after."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. The Catholic Churches you"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "would think"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "would come to the point where it would"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "be transparent"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "and whatever happened happened. 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The Catholic Church, money,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "power, prestige. The Boy Scouts, money,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "power, prestige. That's just"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "institutions become that way."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Institutions like the Boy Scouts, I"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "believe, started out with the purest of"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "motives."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "But then at a certain point, it became"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "concerned about the its money, power,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "and prestige. And it knew about a bunch"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "of these. It it had a big list of scout"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "masters that had molested kids. you"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "know, with the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "going back to the I just have some"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "questions before we really dive into the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "interview and and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "you know, with the I just don't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "understand why they're not going after"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "him. And"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "is everybody guilty?"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "I mean, in like why did everybody have a"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "hand in this? Like why is nothing"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "happening? What? Why is I mean the judge"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "almost got assassinated."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "What is going on? What are those"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "paintings"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "of George Bush throwing airplanes at two"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Jenga towers at Epstein Island? What is"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "the painting with Bill Clinton wearing a"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "dress and red high heels? What is that?"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Is that a Is that a I gotcha. You better"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "not say anything ever."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> there's a lot of symbolism in those."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> It's definitely entirely possible."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Ebstein"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "had a very warped mind,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "but despite that, he pandered to other"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "people with warped minds. 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So what is he holding the entire"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "US government"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "on blackmail?"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> Well, obviously not anymore. Uh, the"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "thing with Ebstein, and this is where"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "it don't really understand, Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Ebstein by himself couldn't blackmail"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "anyone. Jeffrey Ebstein was a college"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "dropout from Coney Island, kind of a"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "workingclass family. A guy like that"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "couldn't blackmail the most powerful men"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "in the United States and the world."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "He has to have an organization behind"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "him and that organization tells people,"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "you know, if you harm Jeffrey Epstein,"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "there's going to be retribution. That's"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "the only way that Jeffrey Epstein can"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "blackmail some of the most powerful men"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "in the world is if there's an"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "organization behind him that has a lot"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "of power."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> What organization was behind him?"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> It's there's some dark corner of"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "intelligence"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "that's been doing this forever. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "I don't know what you call it. Some"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "people would call it the deep state. 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He"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "said that that was one of his regrets is"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "that they felt like fighting communists"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "was too important to be left to"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "politicians."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "So they started funding mechanisms,"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "covert funding mechanisms. And then also"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "the blackmail too."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "And he said that that was one of his big"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "regrets was that the CIA started these"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "funding these covert funding mechanisms"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "so it could basically do whatever it"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "wanted."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": ">> Interesting. Do you think I have another"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "I'm going to switch the flow of the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "interview. Let's just get into the"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Epstein stuff right now since we're in"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "You know, do you think that"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "I got to be careful how I say this, but"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "basically what I'm saying, [ __ ] it. I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "not going to try to to"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "beat around the bush."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "Do you think that all of the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "clients"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "were pedophiles or did they get tricked?"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Do you think that is what was going on?"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Because wouldn't that"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Yeah, I get it. They're cheating on"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "their wives."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "It's bad. But they didn't knowingly"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Do you see what I'm getting at? They"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "didn't know I mean, look, Nick, you can"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "get on Instagram right now and look at"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "all the private the what do they call"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "the the private jet steartesses and they"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "all look the same."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> If you seen, you know what I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "about."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> I don't Well, I'm I'm not much of an"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Instagram guy. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> they look like they just walked out of"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "the strip club and jumped on a jet to to"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "Yeah. And so, that's what I'm So, we"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "know what's going on on private jets."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "Okay. I mean, let's just It's"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": ">> It's pretty obvious what happens uh with"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "those type of stewardes. And so, it may"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "not even be uncommon. I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "know. I don't fly around on private"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "jets, but it may not even be uncommon."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "you know, for that to be, you know, part"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "of the the the flight routine, right?"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "And so maybe this is just another flight"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "where that they're used to this"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "happening and but this time it's O."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Yeah, that was Yeah, that was a"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "17-year-old. By the way, you're on"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "camera. You know, because wouldn't that"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "turn the Wouldn't that turn the the"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Wouldn't that turn them into somewhat of"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "a victim as well?"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "I think all the above to what you said,"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "I think sometimes they're trick, but"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "Epstein was frequently pandering 14y"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "olds,"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": ">> and we know he was pandering 13y olds."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "And I don't think it would be hard to"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "differentiate between a 13-year-old or"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "14y old"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> and an adult."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "And as I said earlier, Epstein, I"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "believe, pandered kids that were under"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "10 years old. So, I think it's all the"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "above. Guys could have been tricked for"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "sure with some of these young women that"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "look like adults, but then some guys are"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "just they're pedophiles. I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> totally Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> I mean, that's that's their thing."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "That's what they're into. And like"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Ebstein, he"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": ">> his thing was pubescent girls."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> You know what I mean, though? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "and I mean, you definitely have your"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "repeat offenders."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> I mean, we all know who they are, at"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "least a couple of them, you know, but"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "there's also people, from my"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "understanding, that were, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "one-time offenders"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "or supposedly. And"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "I don't know. I'm just I thought a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "about this and and like I said, you"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "know, it's"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "yes, they are they standup citizens by"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "flying around in private jets and doing"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "whatever to women that goes on on their"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "[sighs]"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "No, they're not standup citizens. But I"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "mean, it is"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "they're not doing anything anybody else"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "isn't doing. And and at least it's it's"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "not uncommon. And so to to to to trick"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "somebody like that, I think would be"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "relatively easy, especially with a 16 17"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "year old. With a 16 or 17 year old,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "yeah, I think so."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "I got to a black male photographer"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "who was part of the Franklin Trafficking"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "Network. And I was I was I was initially"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "cutting my teeth on the story. I I was"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "trying to figure out how, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "was trying to figure out so much stuff"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "and I asked him about the blackmail"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "angle"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "and he said, \"To me, it's like you're on"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "a yacht.\""}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": ">> And it's a beautiful yacht. It's a"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "beautiful day and you can have anything"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "you want on the yacht,"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "but if you decide to get off the yacht,"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "the people on the yacht are going to"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "make sure that you drown."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "So once you've been compromised,"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "there's almost an incentive to keep"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "going with it. I mean, you're not going"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "to stop. I mean, there's already footage"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "of you. You're part of that club. You're"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "part of that oma um where you're going"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "to keep your mouth shut and do what"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "you're told."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> How many names were in that book? Do you"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "remember"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> in the in the black book?"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": ">> a bunch of them, but not all of them"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "were pedophiles. But"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": ">> how many were clients?"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "estimation"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": ">> probably 50 or 60."}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": ">> 50 or 60."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "And I could be wrong. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "There were a number of names that were"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "circled. How the blank book came into my"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "possession."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "You can't really get into the definitive"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "minations, but Alfredo Rodriguez was a"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "house manager for Epstein"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "and he made copies of the black book"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "and he tried to sell it"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "to one of the attorneys that were"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "representing some of the kids molested."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "the attorney called the FBI and the FBI"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "did a sting on him."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": ">> And according to the affidavit of the"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "FBI agent, she said that the ones that"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "were circled were ones that he felt were"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "um incriminated."}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "And there were a number of very powerful"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "guys that were circled."}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "And like Bill Clinton wasn't circled,"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "but Epstein had 25 contact numbers for"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "him. And that's and that's another"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "indication too with the black book is"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "how many contact numbers"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "does Jeffrey E? Like he only had two"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "contact numbers for MC Jagger. So I"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "doubt that he and Mick"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "did much. Although Mcjagger is"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "I think according to um McKenzie"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "Phillips"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "he molested her when she was I think 12"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "or something. But um but I don't think"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "that although Ebstein had a couple of"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "numbers for Jagger I don't think that he"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "provided Jagger with children. And it's"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "not because I like the Rolling Stones."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "It's just uh I with only two contact"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "numbers. I haven't really seen anything"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "where they're together. So"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "But there's a lot of other people in"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "that book that are circled and um"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "I think that that tends to incriminate."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "I I think Alfredo Rodriguez I mean he"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "was at Epstein's he was Epste's house"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "manager for quite some time. So he he"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "knew a lot of what was going on"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "and then the FBI ultimately impounded"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "the book and then I got it from some"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "people who got it from the FBI"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "and um it's I mean it really shows the"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "breadth of his social connections. Now,"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "people have argued that it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "funny. Um, like Mother Jones"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "had did an article where some guy called"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "everybody in the black book and and no"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "one knew Jeffrey Epstein in the Black"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "Book. I don't know him. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "Never met him. So, um, see how they run."}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "That cracked me up. and and Mother Jones"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "was actually that writer was seemingly"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "naive enough to believe that nobody in"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "the black book knew Jeffrey Epstein."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Ryan show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "I said, \"Think of your ATM pin code.\""}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Tom Brady goes, \"I don't know my ATM pin"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "code.\" I go, \"It's good to be that"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "rich.\" You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "And I guessed the code. And I went,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "\"1129.\" He freaked out. It's four"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "numbers."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> No, it's not. It's more than that."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": ">> Oh, man. Is there That's too much. Is"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "there a four-digit code used for things?"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "I have a pin code. Do you know Eric"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Dickerson's jersey number? 29."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> 1129."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Bro, that's the craziest [ __ ] I've ever"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "seen in my life."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> That's like Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan went on"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "a tear on like he's like, \"There's no"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "way he could have known my pin code to"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "my ATM.\" He goes, \"Nobody knows that. I"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "didn't write. I didn't say it. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "anything.\" He's like, \"I don't know how"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "you could have gotten that.\""}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> I'm only going to ask you one more"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "question. I'm not looking for answers."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "The last number is the biggest, isn't"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm showing this to you. It's not"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "2020. How'd I do, Joe? Is that your ATM"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "pin code?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> That's weird."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "I'm skeptical because I've got that pin"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "code in the mail. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> You know,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> he's calling his bank right now and"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "being like, \"Yo, do you know this? Has"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "this guy been playing the long game?\""}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't like that."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Mentalism is a subset of magic. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "built off of magic. It's not like a"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "separate supernatural [music] or psychic"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "power that some people will think. Magic"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "mostly involves slight of hand or"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "illusions, right? Illusions are when"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "you're on stage, David [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Copperfield, big boxes, things"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "happening. Let's talk about mentalism"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "versus magic. What is the difference?"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> Mentalism is a subset of magic. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "built off of magic. It's not like a"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "separate supernatural or psychic power"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "that some people will think, but magic"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "mostly involves slight of hand or"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "illusions, right? Illusions are when"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "you're on stage, David Copperfield, big"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "boxes, things happening. Magic tends to"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "be more slight of hand and closeup,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "right? Pick a card, find it, put it back"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "in. I produce the four aces. You know"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "how I'm doing it. It's slight of hand."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "My hands have been trained in some way"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "similar to kind of a juggler. And that"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "I'm deceiving your eyes, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> So mentalism doesn't really have that"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "same thing of deceive your eyes. I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "do anything quick. There's no real trick"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "or prop. So mentalism becomes magic for"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the mind where you seem to read"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "someone's mind, right? know their"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "innermost thoughts, secret information"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "about them, know what choices they'll"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "make in a certain moment that they don't"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "even seem to know that doesn't adhere to"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "the rules of science. You go there's no"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "way that we could do this minus if"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "you're reading my mind. That's if you're"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "doing it perfectly what it looks like."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "But it is not supernatural. There is an"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "actual set of steps that I'm using to"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "get you to where I want you to go."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "I have some I have some predictions"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "maybe on the thing that you gave me. So"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "I want [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> How much how much research do you do on"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "your guests before or not on your guest"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "on your subject on your target before"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> target's a weird word but it depends"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "what you mean by it. So I do last year I"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "did about 140 events and most of those"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "events are for thousands of people"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> and I go to great lengths during shows"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "to pick people at random. In fact, if"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "you read the comments on most videos,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "you just see hundreds of people going,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "\"He did my company's event. He did my"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "company's event. He did a party my"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "house.\" There's it's an impossibility"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "for me to know anything about the vast"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "majority of people I perform for. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> physically impossible. Like if you were"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "to see me do a show, uh this is coming"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "out after, but December 21st I have a"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "show for about 2,000 people in Boston"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "area. Literally, you throw frisbes"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "around the room, somebody catch you,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "stand up. It's inherently random."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> To to make it believable."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "So there's no research involved. People"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "like to say that for me, if I'm doing"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "something like this with one person,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "there's research as to what I think will"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "hit the hardest."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Gotcha. But there's not research as in"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "I'm going to dig up something about you"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "that nobody knows. You could think that."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "I don't really tell people what not to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "think, but it's it's silly to believe"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "you could we'll see in a minute. But how"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "how could I know a choice you make in"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the moment, right? There's there's kind"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "of a there's no way to know. Well, you"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "did this you did this thing. I can't"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "remember exactly how it went with uh"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "with Tom Brady and Gowski. Is that who?"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> Yep. And um they wrote down they wrote"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "down an NFL player's name and then there"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "was a there was a common number. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "That and I can't remember what that"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "number represented."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> So I told them each I said that when"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "you're on a team, right, you need to be"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "aligned."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> If you're if you're a tight end, when"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "you turn around, that ball's got to"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "already be in your hand. You can't wait"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "for the quarterback to throw it to you,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "right? You two have a certain level of"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "awareness on a mental of you've run"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "these routes so many times that you know"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "exactly where the ball's going to be and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "where your player's going to And right,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "you're aligned mentally,"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> synchronicity. Teams, guys, how many"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "times you tap somebody on the shoulder"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "and know exactly where you're going to"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "go where it's muscle memory. Am I right?"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Milliseconds are life and death. So when"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "I am doing certain things, for example,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "I had them each think of a player and"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "they're going to swear they picked the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "player at random. They swore I didn't."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "And I said to Tom, look at mine. He"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "wrote Larry Fitzgerald. I wrote Larry"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Fitzger. How the hell did you do? Like I"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "could have just named anyone. Even"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "afterwards, he said he picked Fitzy, who"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "who he's friends with instead of another"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "guy cuz he changed his mind. He was"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "going to do a different wide receiver."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "And so we both turned it around and then"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "I said, \"Grock, let me see yours.\" He"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "turned around was Eric Dickerson. So"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "it's really funny cuz he totally screwed"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "up the trick. It looked like it was a"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "dud. And then I said to Tom, \"Think of a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "code nobody would know.\" I said, \"Think"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "your ATM pin code.\" Tom Brady goes, \"I"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "don't know my ATM pin code.\" I go, \"It's"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "good to be that rich.\" You know what I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "saying? [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I was like, \"Tom, you got people for"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "that.\" I go, \"Grunk, we know our ATM pin"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "code. We ain't [laughter] got we ain't"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "got goat money. And so Tom goes, \"All"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "right, I got another code.\" So he said,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "\"I got another code.\" And that's what I"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "said to him, \"You ready?\" And I guessed"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "the code. And I went, \"1129.\" He freaked"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "out. And then the crazy kicker was I go,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "\"What's Larry Fitzgerald's jersey"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "number?\" And he goes, \"11.\" And I go,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "\"What's Eric Dickerson's jersey number?\""}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "\"29.\" And those were 1129. And that was"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "the code to unlock his phone. Dude,"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "what? So how like how do you put that"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "together?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Puzzle pieces, man. Usual suspects."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Kaiser So, did you ever see that movie?"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> I mean, how do you even know the the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "jersey numbers?"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> Well, that that's research. That's 100%"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "research. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> But how would you go in there if you"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "didn't know who they were going to write"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "down?"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> So, again, that's where people Aam's"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "razor if you want to try to figure out"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "these tricks. A lot of time you kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "tie your brain to a pretzel because you"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "go, \"How'd you know who they're going to"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "pick?\" So, even if you knew how they're"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "going to pick, how did you get them to"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "pick those two players? But even then,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "how could you have known Tom Brady's"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "phone code, which he will swear to you"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "till his dying breath, there's no way he"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "ever did in front of me. He never wrote"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "it down. He never said, he never"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "anything. He didn't know what we were"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "going to do when we walked in the room."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "So, you know, it's like Joe Rogan. Joe"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Rogan went on a tear on like he's like,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "\"There's no way he could have known my"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "pin code to my ATM.\" He goes, \"Nobody"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "knows that. I didn't write. I didn't say"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "I didn't anything.\" He's like, \"I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "know how you could have gotten that.\""}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "So, that's where that's what creates"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "memorable moments. It's what you asked"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "me before."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "So, I start with the ending. I started"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "with the ending of I want to do"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "something crazy."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> So, was the number the ending or were"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the players the ending?"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> The uh they were both the number was the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "ending. The final thing was him"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "unlocking his phone and showing"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "everybody that was the freaking that's"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "my code. How did you know that?"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> I like surprises. So, Sean, for me,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> I like surpris."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> I really like No, but I do because if"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "you know what's about to happen, it"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "could be amazing, but it's never the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "same feeling as a shock."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Like at the end of that trick when all"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "of a sudden you go, \"What's his jersey"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "number?\" And you see his face go 11. And"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "then I go, \"What's Eric Dixon?\" He goes,"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "\"29.\" Like you just It was sitting there"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "in plain sight."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> It was sitting there in plain sight."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Like that message in a bottle that I"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "took out of my pocket before we spoke a"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "word to each other today and you just"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "don't know what it's going to be."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "So you ask yourself, did I really pick"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "what I wanted or did he plant a thought"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "in my mind?"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> That's kind of what I'm getting at."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> So, when you gave me the song,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "what what was it? Sweet Home Alabama."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, I walked in here and"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "I told you a song from my youth that I"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "really liked was Sweet Home Alabama. Is"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "that correct? That's what I want to make"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "sure I told you that."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> How well do you know the lyrics to the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "song? Sweet Home Alabama."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> Probably not very good. But what I"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "thought was interesting is when I"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "scrolled down, I think it was the length"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "of the song is 444, which is my favorite"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "number."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> Interesting. which is right behind me."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> But"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> so you think that me saying sweet home"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Alabama to you?"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> I don't know. I don't know if the number"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "444 is going to come up at the end."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Maybe."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> Is it"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> just going to rip over my shirt and just"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> nipples? No. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Ryan show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Let's talk about how close we are to"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "potential World War II and nuclear"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "warfare."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> Way too close."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> How could this go if it doesn't go? How"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "could this How could this end up in"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "World War II?"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> I think a couple of different ways,"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "right? So,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "I'm sure that Russia has red lines, some"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "of which we're not even aware of in"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Ukraine. Um, you know, you get to a"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "situation where is a Russian red line"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "crossed? They're a nuclear power. Do"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "they start using tactical nuclear"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "weapons in Eastern Ukraine? If that"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "happens, then probably at least some of"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "the Eastern European countries like"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Poland have to get involved. That"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "balloons into a World War II scenario. I"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "think the most likely and the most"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "dangerous scenario is Iran and Israel"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "right now. So obviously the Israelis are"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "on high alert. They just had this"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "terrorist attack. They're dealing with"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Hamas. You know what? If in North Israel"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "a bunch of Iranianbacked militias start"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "killing thousands of of Israeli"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "civilians. Okay, so the Israelis invade,"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "do the Iranians counterattack and now"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "you have Israel, Iran in a regional"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "conflict. The Turks probably have to get"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "involved. The Saudi Arabians probably"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "have to get involved. And then that is"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the sort of thing that could balloon"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "into World War II. And then the final"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "thing, man, is is, you know, China wants"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Taiwan, right? Everything that we have"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "tells us the Chinese want Taiwan."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "America, I think, has left Taiwan in a"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "really crappy position because we've"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "sent all our weapons to Ukraine. The"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Taiwanese, I don't know that they could"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "repel a Chinese invasion right now. And"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "so, do the Chinese invade Taiwan that"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "leads to some sort of accelerating"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "conflict there. So, there are basically"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "at least three hot spots in the world"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "right now that each have the potential"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "to become a major worldwide conflict."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "It's really scary. And this is one of"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the reasons why I I say like you don't"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "want an incompetent as president of the"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "United States right now. Like you go"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "back I mean look there are some people I"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "disagreed with I disagree with a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "George W. Bush's foreign policies."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Obviously disagreed with a lot of Barack"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Obama's foreign policies but these were"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "like fundamentally capable human beings."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Right? Donald Trump is a capable human"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "being. I think more than capable but I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "biased. Kla Harris is not a capable"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "human being. Like, do you really want in"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the midst of a high pressure conflict"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "her negotiating with Xi Jinping about"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Taiwan? Or do you want her over there in"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Moscow or Kiev negotiating with the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Russians with Vladimir Putin about the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "peace settlement in Ukraine? This is"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "scary, scary stuff. And you talk about a"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "person like Kla Harris who can't even"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "answer a simple question without"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "retreating into slogans and talking"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "points. What about when the cameras are"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "off and she's in a private room with"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "world leaders? That's scary, scary"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "stuff. And that's maybe what worries me"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "about more than any of her domestic"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "policies is what happens if the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "hits the fan. I don't think Kla Harris"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "can handle it."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> Why do you think China hasn't made a"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "move on Taiwan yet? It seems like every"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "everybody every chess player on the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "globe has made the move since the Biden"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "and Camala took office. And so why"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "hasn't China made their move yet? What"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "are they waiting for? I think there are"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "a few different explanations and maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "you know all of them are true at least a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "little bit. I think one thing is"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "even in a relatively weakened position."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "It's not an easy military maneuver. So"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "maybe the Chinese don't want to kill a"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "lot of people especially their own"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "people. Maybe that destabilizes them"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "politically. That's that's one solution"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "or one possible answer. I think another"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "possible answer is look you know Xi"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Jinping my understanding and this is all"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "you know guesswork. we're sort of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "judging with imperfect information, but"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "my understanding is that he is not in"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "the strongest position politically right"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "now. That 5 years ago or maybe 5 years"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "in the future, he'll be in a slightly"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "stronger political position. And so"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "maybe it's more likely to happen say not"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "in 2027 uh as opposed to, you know, so 3"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "years from now as opposed to right now."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "The other thing that you hear is maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "that the Chinese don't think they"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "ultimately need it, right? So maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "we're actually misunderstanding how what"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "their calculus is. Maybe their attitude"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "is they can control Taiwan from the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "outside without ever having to invade it"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "and control it from the inside. And"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "there's probably some element of truth"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "to all those explanations. But I think"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "eventually, my guess is they're"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "eventually going to make a real military"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "move on it. It's probably going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "sooner rather than later. I hope not,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "but we'll see. Cuz right now, if they do"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it, we're not in a good position with"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "the leadership we have. Those are some"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "perspectives I haven't heard before."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> Let's move on to the border."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> So, the border, we have I hear 11"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "million, 15 million, 21 million."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> Whatever. It's millions and millions and"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "millions of illegal immigrants uh that"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "are calling the US home now."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> We're paying for it. You guys have a"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "plan. I'd like to dive into how exactly"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "are you gonna go after and and remove"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "all of these immigrants."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So, first let me preface"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "that cuz I think you got to stop the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "bleeding, right? Whenever you got a"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "problem like you know somebody cuts your"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "leg off, stop the bleeding and then"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "figure out how you're going to reattach"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the leg. The the stop the bleeding thing"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "that we have to do is reclose the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "border, right? Reimplement deportations,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "reimplement the remain in Mexico policy."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "I think people don't fully realize that"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "the reason the border is such a"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "nightmare is that somebody will come"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "into the country say that they're"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "seeking asylum and if you're border"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "patrol you have to let them into the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "country they can they get a work permit"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "they can you know live in the country"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "for 10 12 15 years and then maybe 10 12"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "15 years later they get a court date to"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "adjudicate whether their asylum claim is"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "legitimate but of course most of them"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "don't show up for that court date right"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "so that's that's one of the main reasons"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "why you have an open border The way that"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Trump solved that is he made all these"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "people wait in Mexico while their asylum"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "claim was being adjudicated. 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Get it much lower"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "and then you figure out what to do with"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "the I think it's probably 25 million"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "illegal aliens who are here right now."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "So, the way I think about this, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "asked by the media all this about about"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "this all the time, and I always say, you"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "know, it's like eating a sandwich,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "right? You know, it's like asking"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "somebody, okay, how are you going to eat"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "this sandwich? It's 10 times as big as"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "your mouth. Well, you take the first"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "bite, then you take the second bite,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "then you take the third bite, right? You"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "do this sequentially. And I think that's"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that's how you have to think about it."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "So, you start with the million illegal"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "aliens who are violent criminals who"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "have committed violent crimes in the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "United States of America. and you do"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "everything that you can. You round them"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "up. You get them out of this country."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "You just have to. Right. Those are the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> How do you know who the criminals are?"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> Because they most of them have actually"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "committed crimes in in the country."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Okay. Right. So either they're in"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "American jails or they were released. 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Then I think there are a few other"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "things you got to do to make it frankly"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "harder for illegal immigrants to take"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "advantage of the country, right? You got"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to end the Social Security fraud and the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Medicare fraud so that people aren't"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "able to get free benefits, free"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "healthcare. Uh you what I think we ought"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "to do, I actually have a piece of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "legislation on this in the Senate is you"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "tax remittances, right? 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I mean first of all"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "like yeah it wasn't perfect when Trump"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "was president but man it was very good."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Like you look at the number of illegal"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "border crossings per day. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "zero. You're never going to get it to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "zero but man it was much closer to zero"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "than it's been pretty much at any time"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "in our country's history uh at least"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "recent history. Right. So you you really"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "can just with some common sense law"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "enforcement approaches get things to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "maybe a thousand illegal crossings a"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "day, 500 illegal crossings a day. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "120th, right, of what Joe Biden has had"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and Kla Harris have had. So that's a big"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "big improvement. Now you got to do some"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "other things, too. You've got to finish"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the border wall, right? I think you"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "probably got to empower border patrol to"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "do their job a little bit more. 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Cuz every time"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "he tried to do something new, you'd have"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "somebody file a lawsuit and say, no, no,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "no, the president's not allowed to do"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "this, right? Well, one of the things"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "that happened is Donald Trump won all"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "those cases, but it happened towards the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "end of his administration. So, he's"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "going to have law enforcement tools"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "during his second term that he didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "have during his first term. 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Is it something else? Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "oh, is it a person with a gun or a"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "person, you know, who's just a little"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "kid? like you actually can use"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "technology to identify illegal migrants"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "who are trying to cross the border. You"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "just have to empower law enforcement to"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "do that stuff and I think that's what"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Donald Trump wants to do. In fact, I"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "know it's what Donald Trump wants to do."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "And again, it was quite successful the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "first term. It can be more successful"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "the second goound."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> Very good. Very good. Let's talk about"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "government reform."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Yeah. So, looks like Elon is going to be"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "on the cabinet and will be in the charge"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "on the government efficiency."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "um department, if that's what you call"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": ">> How do you see how have you spoken with"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "him about the plan, how he's gonna do"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> Well, I I've spoken You mean with the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "president or with Elon?"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": ">> With Elon."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah, with Elon. So, I've spoken"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "with Elon a little bit about it. And um"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "you know I I I think that the way that"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "this is envisioned is you set up a you"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "know you set up an organization with"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "very smart people from the private"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "sector and a few few smart people from"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "government and you go in and you say how"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "are we going to fix all the broken"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "inefficiencies and the thing that's"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "complicated about this man is it's going"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "to look much different in say the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "department of defense versus social"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "security right like one of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "problems in social security is fraud."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "You got a lot of illegal aliens. I've"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "actually had friends of mine who have"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "had their social security account drawn"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "down and then when they go to the IRS,"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the IRS says, \"Oh yeah, an illegal alien"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "used your social security number, but"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "we're not allowed to reveal that"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "person's information.\" A person who's"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "using your social security number to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "defraud you, your own government is"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "saying, \"We can't tell you who that is.\""}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Right? You serious?"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> I'm dead serious. I mean, crazy stuff is"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "happening out there in this country. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "so you got to fix that problem. Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "that's a social security fraud problem."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Now, at the Department of Defense,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "right, we've got a big it's not, you"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "know, so much a fraud problem as it is a"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "procurement problem. So, you you ask"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "yourself like, how do we end up paying"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "six times what the Chinese are paying"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "for ships or how how how why are we"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "paying five times what the Russians are"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "paying for artillery shells? You need"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "somebody to go in there and actually fix"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "that procurement process. And the honest"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "answer, man, and I I hate to say because"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "a lot of these companies do do important"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "work, like we want our troops to have"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the best weapons. There are a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "companies that are getting really rich"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "because Uncle Sam is run by idiots,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "right? And so you go in and you fix that"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "procurement process. You do less, you"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "know, less procurement based purely on"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "what something costs and more"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "procurement that tries to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "force companies to be a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "efficient. So there's a lot that you can"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "do there and you just got to go"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "department by department. And what what"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "makes it complicated is again each"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "department is a little bit different"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "from the next one. And I think you just"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "got to for four years go one right after"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "the other and make this country's"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "government more efficient. I mean, let"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "me give you a statistic. Just absolutely"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "insane. So 2019,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "this government spent about $4.4"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "trillion, right? That's a lot of money."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "In 2024, our government will probably"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "spend close to $7 trillion. Okay? So 4.4"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "to 7, $2.6 trillion of additional"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "spending. A little bit of that is social"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "security because you have an aging"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "population. Some of that's fraud, right?"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Illegal aliens committing fraud. A"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "little bit of that is Medicare because"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "again, you've got an aging population."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "But of that $2.6 trillion that we're"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "spend, that's just in four years, dude."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "Four years, $2.6 trillion, probably $2.4"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "trillion of it has nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Social Security, nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Medicare. There's a lot of waste,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "there's a lot of fraud, and there's a"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "lot that we can fix in that $2.4"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "trillion. save people a lot of money,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "allow the private sector to grow instead"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "of destroying the private sector, and"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "also hopefully give people some of their"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "hard-earned money back. Because if their"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "government's wasting trillions of"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "dollars, who's paying for that? You are,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "and I am."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": ">> What agencies or departments of"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "government would you start with?"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": ">> Yeah, that's a good question. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "thought about that actually. Um, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "I I think you start with you got to"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "start with fraud in what you might call"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "the the the welfare system. Okay? So,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "section 8 housing, okay? And I I"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "believe, by the way, that you know, if"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "somebody's down on their luck, they lose"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "their job, you don't want kids being"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "homeless, okay? But that program should"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "exist, number one, for people who are"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "actually down on their luck and number"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "two, for people who are legally in this"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "country to begin with. So, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "section 8 money goes to illegal"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "immigrants. either through fraud or"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "because even though section 8 housing is"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "not supposed to go to an illegal alien,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "if you're the son of an illegal alien or"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "the daughter, then you can benefit from"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "that system. So I think you got to go"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "into sort of the welfare system, make"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "sure that it's actually going to the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "people who are entitled to it and not to"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "frankly illegal aliens. That's probably"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "where I'd start cuz that would help"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "solve the immigration problem too. So"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "you kind of kill two birds with one"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "stone there. Man, I think the defense"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "procurement process is really broken."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "And what it means is that we have a lot"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "of weapon systems that are outdated and"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "we're not doing as much technology"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "innovation in in what we're giving our"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "troops. I mean, you know this better"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "than anybody, but like whether we win"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "the war of the future is in large part a"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "technology battle, right? You like you"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "don't want our our troops out there"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "waving around knives when the other guys"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "have guns. You know, there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "cool stuff happening in drone"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "technology. There's a lot of cool stuff"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "happening in underground or or I should"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "say underwater uh submersibles, unmanned"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "submarines. Like we should be giving our"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "troops the best stuff, but to do that,"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "you got to fix how the defense bud the"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "defense department actually buys weapons"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "to begin with."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:13", "text": ">> What about IRS, CIA, FBI?"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I don't think I don't think"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "the CIA wastes a ton of money. So,"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "that's not an efficiency problem, but I"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "think it's corrupt,"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": ">> right? That's that's just a basic like"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "there's lawlessness within our"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "intelligence services. We know this"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "after the 2016 Russia hoax. I mean we"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "have to remember there are actually"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "members of the intelligence community"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "who were leaking stories to CNN that"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "like Donald Trump was paid off by the"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Russians. Totally fabricated. None of"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "those people have been fired. And they"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "they ran the same playbook in 2020."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Remember the Hunter Biden laptop story"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "that they used our own intelligence"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "services to justify big tech censoring"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "that story, right? Why did why did"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "Google, Facebook, Twitter, why did they"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "all censor that story? Because some of"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "the members of our own intelligence"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "services, the FBI, the CIA were telling"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "them you're not allowed to run the story"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "because it is Russian disinformation,"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "right? So, you have to fix that problem."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "I don't think you save a lot of money"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "doing it, but you make the people's"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "government work better, which is maybe"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "the most important thing. 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Say, what's their name?"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Get the out of here, dude."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> What? Holy sh"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "What the man? Oh, dude. I'm done."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> You hear a song, right? Come up right"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "now. And you hear the song and you go,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "\"Oh, man. This brings me back maybe to"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "an age, maybe to a place, maybe to a"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "setting. I don't know what. But I want"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "you to close your eyes. Close your eyes."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "And I want you not visually, but"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "auditorially to hear this song playing"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "in your head that you go back in time"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "and you can kind of define either an era"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "or a specific part of your life based on"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "this song. Can you almost as if it was"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "playing right now on the radio, could"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "you hear the song starting?"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> Okay, open your eyes."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Did is there any way in the world that I"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "could have before I got here today"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "before I got here looked up listened to"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "a podcast and heard you say there's this"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "one song. Is there any way I could have"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "found this out in advance?"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Get get really nitty-gritty. No chance."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Okay. Imagine the song is playing"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "and it's maybe we get to the bridge,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "maybe we get to the chorus and you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Sweet Home Alabama. I mentioned that"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "song too when I got here and I know how"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "you think that put something in your"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "head, but you you nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "your song. Imagine"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "right at a certain point it stops and"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "you sing along. Okay? As if we take the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "lyrics and we highlight a couple of the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "words and you sing along to that one"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "moment. Boom. Right there in your head,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "sing those words. Can you sing them in"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "your head?"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Okay. You decide. I said a couple, which"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "is leading the witness, couples, too."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Sometimes people do more. You were"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "thinking of two words. Is that right?"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> Which one in your mind did you get more"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "forceful on? I don't want to know the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "word, but was it the first word or the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "second word? Which one? just it it just"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "came out stronger in your mind. First"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "one or the second?"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> These are the two words."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Tell us what what what two"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "words like"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> the first one?"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> The first one is like these two. Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "They're not the name of the song. Are"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "they?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Now, this is just critically important."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "I walked in here. I gave you this before"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "I had said a word to you. I put this on"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "the table. You have not"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "like shared this online somewhere."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "You've not told anybody. It's not"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "something I could have gleaned from your"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "crew. We don't know each other. You're"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "thinking of two words from literally any"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "song that connected to your past. Is"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "that true?"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Think of the first word. Count how many"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "letters are in that word to yourself."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Just count it to yourself."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> That was quick, but it wasn't instant."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Five letters, wasn't it? It was. Right."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "That was five letters. See if it was"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "long or"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "see all five letters. And I always like"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "to say to this, I go stop. It's kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "like singonging. Stop on any one of the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "letters in the five. Just grab a letter"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "and like you're doing hangman and you"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "have dashes. Imagine that one of your"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "kids guesses a letter and so you fill in"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that letter. Can you see yourself"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "writing one of the letters down? Write"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "the second like in midair. Yeah. You"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "didn't do the first letter, did you?"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> And then and then then and then"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "bookends. Bookends are always quirky"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "because bookends give away. You didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "do the last letter either, did you?"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> Cuz hangman, you always do the ones in"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "the middle. N. Were you think the letter"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "N?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> You did the N before you jumped and you"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "did the vow. I know it now. I wrote it."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "I'm done."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Tell us all. What is the word that"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "popped up in your head as you were"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "singing a song? What word are you"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "thinking right now?"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Going."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Going."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> What the [ __ ] dude?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> One is luck. Two is skill. Think of the"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "next word."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Pick any letter in that word. Something"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "interesting. You got a letter in your"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "head this time?"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Yes. Now, last time when I said N, I"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "know you thought of it, but then you"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "switched over to the vowel, to the O."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "This time you said to yourself, should I"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "do the vowel?"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "And I think what's funny is the first"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "time you thought of letter O, and this"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "time you muscle memory, you thought of"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "the O again. So, there's an O in this"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "word, but then you switched and you did"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "a different letter. You're thinking of a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "W, aren't you? Tell me. Sing it for me."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Not the whole song. What are the two"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "words you're singing in your head? Say"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> Going down."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Going down. What the [ __ ] dude?"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "[laughter] Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "How many different songs do you think"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "have the words going down in them?"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> Probably a ton."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> A million is my guess. A million. Right."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Going down is not nearly enough to"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "figure out what the song is."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> So, let's You know what? Let's put a pin"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "in the song. You just keep it in the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "back of your head for now. Anyone who"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "says that now that I got this I could"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "figure out what the song is. Go to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Google or Spotify. There's so many. You"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "did a hard one for me. All right, we'll"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "keep this on tap. We'll come back. More"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "performance to come. I'll keep I'll keep"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "a dangling carrot for you."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": ">> What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Oh man."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> All right, let's have a fun one with"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "you. You ready? Let's try to craft a"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "similar memory."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "I I said that that right there would be"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "your past, present, and future, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> That that note that's been there for"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "those who have been missing us. I put"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "that here. I took that out of my pocket."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "I put it down when we walked into this"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "room and I took it out. I made you swear"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "to God above so they all know that when"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "this thing came out, prior to that"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "moment, we had not set anything up. I"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "had not talked to you. I made a point of"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "taking out timestamps. Is that correct?"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "When this thing came out of my pocket."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> Mhm. And it's been here in full sight"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the whole time on your table, not mine."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "I made a point of that."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "The past was you thought about a song."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "We don't even know the song, but I got"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "the words going down."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Let's go to your future, which nobody"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "knows the future. I don't know the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "future. Let's hypothetically, let's go"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "through this. Let's deja vu. You're"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "having a birthday party. I'm sure you've"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "had birthday parties before."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Let's imagine that this is a milestone"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "birthday, okay? And you're going to tell"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "me this number on the spot. You're"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "making this up right now in real time."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "How many guests would you invite? If"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you're having people that you grew up"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "with, maybe some people within the world"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "of media now that you've, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "formed this incredible business, people"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that you work with, people that maybe"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "you served with, your brothers in arms,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "your sisters in arms, family. How many"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "people would be at this party? Give me"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "an estimate or be very specific. How"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "many people at the party?"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": ">> 150."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> 150. On the dot. Bam. Now, this is the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "part where I have you visualize this."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "This is the game. You walk in the room,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "it's not a surprise. You know who's in"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "there. You're looking around and you"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "walk around and say, \"Oh my god, how you"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "doing, Sean?\" And then right at this"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "moment, this is the part I wanted you to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "imagine. Somebody walks up to you. You"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "hold out your hand and this one person"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "shakes your hand. Now, right before we"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "do this, you do not know which person's"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "name you are about to say. Is that"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "correct?"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> You do not know. I want to make sure"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "that you know at this very moment, you"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "have not decided who you are going to"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "say. Hold on. Hold on. Don't say a word."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Stop. Yes. Yes. I anything you say is"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "going to give something away right now."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "So I'm saying to you only when you shake"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "your hand do you make the decision of"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "who it's going to be. Do you understand?"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Look at me. Right at that moment you"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "walk in, you shake their hand and you"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "know what? You look them in the eye."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "It's a family member. Blood is thicker"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "than water. You go with the family"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "member. You shake their hand and you"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "look at them. Can you see into that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "person's eyes right now?"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> I think it's a guy. Is it a guy?"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> How did I know? 50/50. But there's"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "something to be said for when I do the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "shake and I look down and I look down to"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "see if you look down statistically men"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "are taller than women. Not always. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "not like I don't want to do gender"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "stereotype. But if you were to look"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "down, you may have thought it was"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "sister, daughter, mom, wife. But when"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "you look directly at me, you looking eye"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "to eye. You thought it was a guy."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "The guy who you picked, family member."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Mix up the letters in his name. We'll"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "try this again."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Oh [ __ ] Here we go."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> And now that I've done this three times,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "I don't know if you noticed. It's way"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "harder for me this time."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Because now I can't use reverse"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "psychology against you."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Pick any letter in his name."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> Any letter"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> in his first name."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Change to a different letter."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> Change one last time."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> So that was Okay. So now we try to feel"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "it out. I know every name has a vowel."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "It just has to. It might have more than"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "one vowel. I think at first you you"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "avoided the vowel. Your first choice was"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "not a vowel, was it?"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> No. But then later on you eventually had"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "to. You did hit a vowel at one point,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "didn't you?"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Never. It's like a Polish name. Oh my"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "god. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "All right. Let me see if I can get it."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "If the name was only three letters long,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "four letters long, it would have been"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "very hard to change that many times. It"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "would have been like, which one do I do?"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "would. So now I know it's a longer name."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Five, six, seven."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "If you saw this person, only clue. If"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "you saw this person,"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "would you refer to them by their first"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "name?"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> Okay. There was a hesitation. So I asked"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "myself, cuz sometimes somebody picks a"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "guy named William, but he calls him Bill"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "or Billy. See what I'm saying? There's"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "there's a there's a you didn't h"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "first letter you thought of then you"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "switch to one further in the word. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "either the second or the one you're"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "thinking about K is the second letter"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "you thought of isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> What the [ __ ] dude?"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> On your light. Sean Ryan, before I"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "walked in this room, we didn't know each"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "other. I ask you to imagine how many"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "guests you're going to have at a"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "birthday party. You spontaneously said,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "\"What number?\" 150 people. Is that"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "right? Any one of those 150 people."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Could have been a family member, a"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "friend, anyone. One person walked up to"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "you, shook your hand. In that moment,"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "you looked in their eyes. Tell us all."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "What is that guy's first name?"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> Frank."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> Frank. Get the [ __ ] out of here. What"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Damn. You're good. [laughter] Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> Are you ready for the craziest part?"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> you're not."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> I don't know if you can handle it. I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "don't know if you can handle it."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> Around this room, you have so many"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "parts. You are a man who loves to look"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "back in time, but also look forward. But"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "this is a temple. This is I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "amazing room. Look at this. I've never"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "seen a room like this. So, when we go"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "back in time and we're going down, that"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "was the song. That was the song. I think"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "you like to rock. I think this is"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "classic rock. You did something with"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "umpmph. Most people I said sweet home"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "Alabama."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "I said skard. You started thinking"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "classic rock. You said who rocks? Who do"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "I like? Who do I like? Led Zeppelin is"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "the band, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> I'm a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> It is. It is. Are you ready? That is"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "right there in your hand. That is right"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "there in your hand."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> Grab it."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> That came out of my pocket."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> Get the [ __ ] out."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> That came out of my pocket the moment I"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "walked in this room. Stop. Is that"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "correct? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> Before we had spoken a word to each"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "other, nothing was set up. Nothing was"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "written. Nothing was in a phone. Nothing"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "was talked to. There's no whispers."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "There's no thought that was in your mind"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "when I walked in here and put that down."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Is that true statement?"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> That's true statement."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> On hand on the Bible."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> Hand on the Bible."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> Take out the note."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Freeze right there. Take it out. Take it"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "out so it's in your hand so I can't do"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "it. It's a scroll. Pull off the rubber"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "band and stop right there. What song was"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "it? What was the name of the song? When"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "the levy breaks. Oh, that's a good one."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "All right. When the levy breaks. Slowly."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Just one line at a time so you can read"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "it. Read it slowly. One line at a time."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": ">> Sean, thank you for your service to our"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "country. And to all your listeners and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "viewers, nothing like a song to take you"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "back in time to a memory in a place"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "during our interview you'll hear when"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "the levy breaks."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> Pause right there. Pause right there."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "That was written before we said a word"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "to each other. You could have thought of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "anything. You ready? When we went in to"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "shake hands, stop. Look this way at me."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Don't open it up."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> Hold it against your chest. Don't read"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "the whole thing. You haven't read it"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "yet, have you?"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> Right when we went in to shake hands"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "in that moment, this is the gold"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "standard. This is when you asked me,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "\"How do you do something that breaks"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "someone's mind?\""}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "You went to shake hands with Frank, but"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "right next to him in your mind, you saw"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "someone else, a good friend, and it was"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "between those two. You were just about"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "to shake hands. What was the name of the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "friend you saw in your mind? You were"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "going to change your mind. I could tell."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "And right the last moment, you said,"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "\"Frank, who is the person you were"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "thinking of?\""}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Steve. Read the rest of the note. No"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "way, dude."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "You'll hear when the levy breaks over"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "and over in your mind. Also, I love when"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "people change their mind because the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "other person you were thinking of was"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Steve."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Dude, what?"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Holy [ __ ] You have made a deal with the"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "devil. Wow. What?"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Dude, what the [ __ ] is"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "How the hell do you do this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "You are a scary [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> You heard it here, folks. Sean Ryan,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "I'll take that, dude. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": ">> Wow. I'd have to pull the mic off to"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "drop it. You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> That was awesome, man."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> Thanks, brother. Thanks for having me."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": ">> [ __ ] that's crazy. Thank you. Thank"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "you. Best of luck. [laughter] Best of"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "luck to you. Not that you need it."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> You know what? Let me ask you a"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "question. You got one of the team here"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "that saw me earlier. Do they ever go on"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "camera or No,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": ">> they can."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Get Get Jeremy in here."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Jeremy,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Jeremy's been watching. Am I right?"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Freaked out. Jeremy said to me, he goes,"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "\"You got to do something insane for"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Shawn.\" And he's like, he's telling me,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "\"You got to do something crazy that"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "he'll never get.\" And so, Jeremy, I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "giving you something crazy. You ready?"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "How many interviews have you sat in on?"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "And what is in your hand? Don't put your"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "phone away. I don't want anything in"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "your hands. I want you to be free and"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "limber. How many interviews have you"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "watched from the other room while this"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "has been done? How many? Guess."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> Uh, about 110."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": ">> 110. Wow. This guy's very specific. That"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "was very specific. Imagine that you get"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "to weigh in on the next interview, that"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "you get to decide, and that somehow only"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "one person's done it. We could rise"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "someone from the dead. Anybody that's"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "ever lived, if I told you dead or alive,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "pastor, it has to be someone famous. I"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "ask people, who's the number one person"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "you would think of? Nod your head if you"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "can see that person in your mind clear"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "as day. Number one person you want. That"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "to me is a is I told you this. This is a"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "common choice. If you tell somebody"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "they're number one and you say later he"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "did research. I agree the number one"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "could have been found. He brought me in"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "for the podcast. He's one of your"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "producers. I could have found his name."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "I could have looked up online. We could"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "have somehow found this out. I believe"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "that somehow people would say he"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "researched you. But the gold standard,"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "the Frank to Steve is when I say change"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "your mind. Who's number two on your"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "list? Now you see more of a struggle."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "Turn. Look at him, Sean. Now it's a"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "fascinating approach because now when he"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "says to himself, \"Who would I have"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "done?\" Now, now he goes, \"Who would we"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "get in here?\" I think the person"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "I think the person you're thinking of is"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "alive. Am I right?"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> I knew it. Even though I said dead or"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "alive, he's like a cheerful guy. People"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "that think of somebody dead, they go"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "like, \"Oh, I'm going to do Winston"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Churchill.\" It's a different vibe. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "very somber."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> I want you to think of the person's"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "first name."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "I want you to think of the person's last"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "name. Okay."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "Is there any conceivable way that I"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "could have found this out? Looked this"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "up. Talk somebody here. Zero. There's"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "just We don't particularly know each"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "other. I arrived on set. We spoke for a"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "moment. That's it."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Why was he confused?"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Sean, think of the first name. Think of"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "the last name. Those are pretty easy"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "questions. Why was there a weird tension"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "about it?"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Now, I could have told you that if you"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "said to somebody, \"Think of the first"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "and last name.\" It was Madonna. I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "know Madonna's last name. She only got a"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "first name."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": ">> Crazy."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": ">> Are you behind me? Don't break the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "fourth wall. You see it?"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Sean, come on in here. Come on in here,"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "Jeremy."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "I vanish right now. Poof. Like a"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "magician, somebody else appears in my"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "place. In this moment, you see this"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "person, somebody famous appears here and"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "you go, I can't believe who Sean's"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "interviewing right now. Tell us, who are"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "you? Imagine this very moment appearing"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "in this chair instead of me saying,"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "\"What's their name?\""}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> Kim Jong,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> get the [ __ ] out of [laughter] here,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "dude. What? Holy [ __ ] [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "What the [ __ ] man? Oh, dude. I'm done."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "[ __ ] [laughter] done. No matter where"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "you're watching Shawn Ryan Show from, if"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "you get anything out of this, please"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "like, comment, subscribe, and most"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "$ 24 billion went uncounted for to fight"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "homelessness."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": ">> Are you saying million or billion with a"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "B?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> Billion with a B."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> $24 billion went missing."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> You have this entire community and"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "[music] it is just actually zombies. The"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "people are so hooked on the drugs that"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "they could [music] care less about"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "what's going on and they're just slumped"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "in the fetty fold. You have little kids"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "getting off of the train having to walk"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "through walk over dead bodies. Are you"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "me?"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": ">> Not a joke. And the little kids are like"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "laughing about it. They're like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "one time my friend came up and he just"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "punched one of the guys and he had no"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "idea.\""}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Yeah. American."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> It's that [music] bad. Little kids are"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "walking past dead bodies, kicking them"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "and punching them and joking about it."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "That's not These kids walked over that"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "one day."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> California, it is as bad as the media"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "makes out to be. You have just inside of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Beverly Hills alone, you have homeless"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "people sleeping outside of mansions."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Like literally within just a few blocks,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "you have homeless people setting up"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "their own homes encampments. in the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "street, you're walking across poop."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Like, this isn't an exaggeration. Like,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I've done it. I've done it. I've shown"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "people what's happening. You obviously"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "have Skid Row there. That's been a big"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "issue for years."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> But then you have $24 billion that just"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "went missing for the homeless that went"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "unaccounted for."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> Have you not heard about that?"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> Over $ 24 billion went unaccounted for"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "to fight homelessness."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> Are you saying million or billion with a"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "B?"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> Billion with a B? Bill, $24 billion went"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "missing."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> She went missing."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> And meanwhile, Gavin Newsome's buying a"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "$9 million mansion in the Bay Area."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Did he really?"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> I didn't know that."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> I got to start putting some allegedly"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "out there so they can't come after me."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "But allegedly, he bought a $9 million"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "mansion."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> And so the corruption's bad there"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "between the homelessness. I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "homeless people literally get handed to"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "them the needles, the paraphernalia, the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "rubber bands. They even get handed out"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "to them the crack pipes to do their"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "drugs. And then they'll be like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "here's this and then here's some Narcan"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "in case you kill yourself.\""}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> Oh, in Maine, they're handing out free"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "boofing kits. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> You know what a boofing kit is?"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Uh, no. What is a boofing kit?"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Oh, man. I've been waiting for somebody"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "to ask me this because I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "what it was when Steve Robinson told me"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "what a free boofing kit was. I said,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "\"What's a boofing kit?\" It's like, it"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "sounds like some type of a uh balloon"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "that you you [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> put the fentanyl in and then you just"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "shove it up your ass."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> It's because it's so it's for when your"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "veins are so [ __ ] up that they can't"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "take any more heroin or fentanyl. You"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "just put it in this little capsule and"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> shove it up there."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "New effect. Dang. Yeah, that fentanyl"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "that fetty be hitting."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> You haven't seen any boofing kits out in"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "your adventures, have you?"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> No, I have not tried any of that stuff."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Anybody putting up their bum [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "that I maybe get"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah. So now there you go, Nick. Now"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "I'll be looking up."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> You learned something today. Now you can"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "go get go to Maine and get a free"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "boofing kit to inject your fentanyl"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "with."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> I hear Maine's an interesting place."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> It sounds like it, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> It really does."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> I've been up there many times."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Really? I think I need to go and do it."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> It's actually a beautiful state. You"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "should go check it out. I"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> imagine it's much like Washington State."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> I've never I haven't been there."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> How would you see in Washington?"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> Washington?"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> What's What's your favorite place that"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "you frequent, Nick?"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> Oh, my favorite place? Well, I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "know cuz I'm going to a lot of like the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "belly of the beast places. Um Seattle's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "really bad. Really, really bad."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> Worse than Cali."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "What's the worst? What's the wor What's"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the one that you thought was like"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "[ __ ] I knew it was bad. But I didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "think it was this bad."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Kensington, Philadelphia."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> Really? Let's go there. What are you"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "saying there?"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> You have entire"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "You have this entire community and it is"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "just actually zombies."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Like the people are so hooked on the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "drugs that they could care less about"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "what's going on and they're just slumped"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "in the fetty fold. It's the most tragic"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "thing to see ever because you just see"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "all these people. You can go and have"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "conversations with these people. A lot"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "of them are really good people, nice"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "people, but they just got hooked on"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "fentanyl."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> How How did they get hooked? What kind"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of conversation should you having with"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "them?"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Yeah. So, a lot of these people, they're"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "got hooked on drugs when they got in in"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "an injured in an accident and then they"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "were maybe heroin addicts and then they"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "just tried fentanyl once. And because"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "fentanyl is 50 times more powerful than"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "heroin,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> by the time it's by the time they want"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "to switch back to heroin because"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "fentanyl is so powerful, heroin doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "do anything to them. And [snorts] so"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "they end up just living out on the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "street looking for the next hit. And"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "what's interesting is people want to"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "talk about, oh, how Joe Biden was like"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "the border wasn't a big deal. Well,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "people in Trump's first term, I talked"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "to a man in San Francisco who's on"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "drugs. He said when in Trump's first"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "office, it cost about $15 for a fentanyl"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "pill because there's multiple different"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "ways to take fentanyl. So for a blue, it"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "was $15. Joe Biden gets into office,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "they open up the borders. It cost the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "addict only $5 for a hit."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> And so in places like Kensington,"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Philadelphia where it's also a liberal"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "city,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "they just have enabled it to happen. And"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "meanwhile, you have little kids getting"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "off of the train having to walk through"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "walk over dead bodies. Are you [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "me?"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> Not a joke. And the little kids are like"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "laughing about it. They're like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "one time my friend came up and he just"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "punched one of the guys and he had no"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "idea.\" what happened. And so like for"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "these little kids to live in these"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "communities, it's just like a part of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "it, which is sad. Like that should not"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "be happening."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Sad as [ __ ] man."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> Yeah. It's actually sickening. And so"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> this is like the [ __ ] I saw overseas"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "that I never wanted to."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> Yeah. American."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> It's that bad. Little kids are walking"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "past dead bodies, kicking them, punching"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "them, and joking about it. Like it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "it's that means that means this is an"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "everyday"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> watched a"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> it's every day. That's not these kids"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "walked over that one day. This is every"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> Every day. Watched a little kid in San"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Francisco walk over a dead body with his"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "mom and his mom's grabbing and the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "little kid's freaking out. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the guy's passed out and overdosing on"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "fentanyl. The addicts are around him"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "like, \"What do we do? What are you"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "doing? What are you doing? what do we"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "do? And then I'm having to run over to"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "go get a person to try to give them"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Narcan and all the addicts are freaking"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "out, not knowing what to do and their"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "friends dying on the ground."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "And that happens every single day in"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "every major city in America. And um"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "whether it's San Francisco or Kensington"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "in Philadelphia, that shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "happening. Like"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> did you did you save that guy?"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> No, you couldn't. I mean, I ran over,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "grabbed the guy, and he did give him"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Narcan. And by that time, all the"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "addicts had pushed me out because I had"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "my camera, and they were so angry at me"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "for having my camera that I didn't get"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "to see what happened to the guy."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> Damn, man."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> But so, like, I had to run over and get"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the guy to give them the Narcan."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "And uh then the addicts, they're they're"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "so delusional in their brain cuz all"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "they're thinking about is the next hit"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "that they end up getting moving me out"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "of the area and then I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "happened to the guy."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": ">> Are they threatening you? I mean"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": ">> they're so out of it they're just"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "yelling and stuff like these addicts."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Like you used to think like homeless"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "people when you're younger like"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "actually homeless people when I was"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "younger it was like oh my gosh like"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "let's help this guy. remember giving him"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "$10 when we'd leave the Jazz stadium"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "after going to the basketball game and"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "giving the homeless guy $10 and you'd"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "wish him a good night. But now they're"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "these guys are just in on fentanyl just"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "slumped moving back and forth and they"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "don't even care what happens."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> I mean, when you're talking about all"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "the all of the rest of the addicts, you"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "know, we're up in arms about this guy"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "getting ready to overdose and die. I"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "mean, how many addicts are we talking"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "here?"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> Probably 10 of them all around him. cuz"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they all just get in this little circle."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "And there's multiple ways to do"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "fentanyl. Whether they're taking the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "blue or if they're lighting it under on"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "foil and just smoking the fumes, they're"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "all just right next to each other."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> How do you strike a a conversation with"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "them?"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Usually, they're pretty nice."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "They're not really looking for anything."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "They're just sitting there doing their"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "drugs, and you just go up and say, \"Hi,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "how are you doing? We wonder if we could"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "just ask you a few questions."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "what got you into this and how long have"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "you been out here for? And usually"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "they're pretty happy to tell somebody"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "their story because I try not to pay"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "people for interviews. A lot of people"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "walk around with $5 bills and I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "like doing that. If someone's going to"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "talk to me, they'll talk to me and if I"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "have to pay them and then the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "interaction is not the same."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> So I always try not to pay people."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> What else are you learning from these"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "people?"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Just the fact that they're somebody"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "else's son, daughter,"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "and you do see like I I think there's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "potential in these people if you could"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "get them off the drugs. A lot of these"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "people don't have any potential left in"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "them because"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> I know there potential. My best friend"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "[ __ ] got killed by that [ __ ] He was"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "a Navy Seal and then contracted with the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "CIA with me. One of the brightest,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "brightest people I've ever met in my"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "life."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> Yeah, there's so many people like it."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "And that's why I get so mad when I see"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "these politicians getting so mad at"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Trump for trying to do something about"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "it or for killing a narco boat. Like I"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "don't care if they killed that narco"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "boat because American people are dying."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "I've seen it with my own eyes. And"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "that's also why I don't respect the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "leftwing media at all. Whether it be the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "Tik Tockers, YouTubers, they never leave"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "their desk."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> All they are is just talking points."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "I'm going out there and because I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "going out there, they label me label me"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "as a MAGA or conservative."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "No, I'm talking to the person strung out"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "on fentanyl. I'm talking to the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "protester. I'm talking to the president."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> Do you consider yourself to be MAGA?"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> Yeah, I support Donald Trump."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "I think right now you kind of have the"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "you have to you have to decide all right"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "maybe if you don't 100% agree with Trump"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "and when I say I'm talking to Trump I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "saying like with my briefing I gave to"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "him I've never talked to him behind"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "closed doors or anything like that but"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "yeah I support Trump because I think"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "what he's doing he doesn't really have"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "there's not really a reason why you not"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "to support him if you're if you believe"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "in what he's trying to do for America"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "and your the opposite would have been"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Kamala Harris"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "And so you might you have to kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "pick and choose your battles with Trump."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Did he totally mess up on the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "stuff? Yes. Is that something that's"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "hard to look look past? Yeah. Is there"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "probably something weird going on there?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Yeah. But is there big issues with drugs"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "inside the United States with illegal"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "immigration affordability? Why are other"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "countries tariffing us and we can't"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "tariff them back? I think you just have"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "to pick your battles and if you want to"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "succeed, you have to at least be"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "supportive of somebody and also be"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "critical at the same time."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "[sighs]"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm with you. I think people need"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "to really align themselves with the with"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "the with the values and and not with the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "individual. 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My guest is"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "a leading scientific researcher in the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "study of meditation and human potential."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "In Dr. Dr. Joe Despenszo's most recent"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "book, Becoming Supernatural, [music] he"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "shows us how thoughts trigger"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "biochemical reactions in the brain,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "which then release chemical signals that"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "cause the body to feel exactly how we"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "were just thinking, leaving us caught in"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "what he calls the thinking feeling"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "[music] loop. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "being here today."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> Happy to be with you. So being a yoga"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "teacher for many years and very"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "interested in the study of meditation"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "and how it actually works, having felt"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the effects on it, your work is"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "extremely exciting and interesting. Will"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "you tell us a little bit about your"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "experience of the yoga tradition and"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "maybe how this has fueled some of the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "research that you're doing today?"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Sure. I I started this whole journey"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "because I read a book about yoga"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "early on and I was in search of a"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "greater way to be. And one thing about"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "yoga is I couldn't get my body in the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "beginning to do what I wanted it to do."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "So it was now something that I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "master. So being athletic and then all"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "of a sudden breaking from competitive"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "sports and getting involved in yoga, I"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "just read everything I could about it"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "and spent so much time doing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "yoga. I think we learn a lot about our"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "bodies when we do it intuitively."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "But really for the most part it led me"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "to the understanding that hat yoga was"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "the foundational yoga in the schools of"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "ancient wisdom where people came from"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "all walks of life to break down physical"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "rigidity in their body so they could sit"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "for extended periods of time and go"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "within. So the body was no longer"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "problematic. The side effect of that of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "course is it produces a lot of benefits"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "and health changes. But once we start uh"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "settling the body down, the next thing"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "we have to address is the mind. And so"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "if you want to develop the idea of where"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "you place your attention is where you"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "place your energy. 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And that"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "loop over time conditions the body to"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "store that emotion in it energetically."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "So then what happens is people all of a"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "sudden start to have energetic patterns"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "in their body that have to be broken"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "down. And so yoga is a great way of"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "ringing water out of the washcloth and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "begin to create more holism and balance."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "So good for the start but then you have"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "to all of a sudden start to address"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "where your thoughts and attention goes."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "For example, the stronger the emotion"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "that you feel from something in your"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "life, the more you pay attention to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "whatever is causing it. So then if you"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "can't manage your emotional state, then"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "in a sense, you're giving your power"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "away to that person or to that problem"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "because now energy is moving away from"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> At the same time, if you keep living by"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "the same emotions and you keep your"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "attention on those emotions, emotions"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "are record of the past. their their"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "chemical residue from past experiences."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "So the more a person puts their"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "attention on their emotions, the more"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "they're thinking in the past. In other"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "words, if you can't think greater than"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "how you feel or feelings have become the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "means of thinking and you believe that"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "your thoughts have something to do with"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "your destiny, then you're thinking in"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the past and you keep creating the same"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "life. So then thoughts are the language"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "of the brain and feelings are the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "language of the body and how you think"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and how you feel creates a state of"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "being. So then if you think about this"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "your body is your unconscious mind. It"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "doesn't know the difference between an"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "experience in your life that creates an"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "emotion and an emotion that you can"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "create by thought alone. So when people"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "get caught in these loops, their body is"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "believing they're living in the same"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "past experience 24 hours a day, 7 days a"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "week, 365 days a year. The body"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "literally becomes conditioned into the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "past. So what does a person do? They get"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "up. They go through the same routine."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "They check their cell phone. They check"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "their text, their WhatsApp, their"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Instagram, their Facebook. They take a"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "picture of their feed. They post it on"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Facebook. Uh they check the news. They"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "check one email. They check the other"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "email. Then they get up and they go"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "through a series of routine behaviors"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "and they do that over and over again."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "All of a sudden they're programming"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "their body into a predictable future"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "based on what they've done in the past."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "So in a sense they've lost their free"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "will to a program."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> So then yoga the act of a moving into an"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "asana and being present it takes a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "tremendous amount of effort once you're"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "experiencing discomfort to move your"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "attention away from that discomfort. So"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "then most people run from discomfort."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "They don't want to look at it. But when"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "you're sitting in the presence of that"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "discomfort and you're being present with"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "it, you're literally taking that emotion"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "that's stored in the body and you're"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "liberating as it as energy. When you"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "change your breathing, you change your"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "brain waves. And as you begin to change"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "your brain waves, you move beyond the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "analytical mind, which separates the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "conscious mind from the subconscious"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "mind. Now you're entering the operating"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "system where all those subconscious"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "programs exist. Now you can begin to"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "reprogram the brain and body so that"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "when you open your eyes and you step out"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "into your life, your brain and body are"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "changed the head of the environment. So"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "now you're in a new state of being. And"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "it only requires two things, a clear"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "intention and an elevated emotion. And"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "that's brain coherence and heart"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "coherence. And when you do that properly"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "now, all of a sudden you begin to"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "produce measurable changes in your inner"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "world that starts to be reflected in"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "your outer world. the synchronicities,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the coincidences, the opportunities, the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "side effect in your change of energy,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "change in attention begins to open up"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "possibilities in your life. And we move"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "from living in the known where"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "everything is predictable to all of a"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "sudden living in the unknown. And that's"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "where the magic happens. Beautiful. For"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "me, this is so interesting because this"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "maps directly onto the kosha model in"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the yoga tradition. You know the kosha"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "is the five layers of being where we"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "talk about the physical body, the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "energetic body and then the third layer"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "of being is what they would call the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "monomaya kosha which is actually the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "mind emotion body. And it's pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "fascinating for me that in texts a"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "couple thousand years ago, they're"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "already saying that there's this mind,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "emotion, body, because people sometimes"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "think that, oh, if I if I think"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "something and I feel something and those"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "two concepts match, then it must be"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "true, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> You know, but then the next layer in the"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "koshik model is the viganamaya kosha or"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the witness consciousness, which is what"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "I'm as a yoga teacher in my tradition"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "that I've studied for a long time."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "That's what I hear you saying when you"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "say I'm sitting down and I'm getting"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "into a place where I actually have the"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "ability to step aside from seeing the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "mind and the emotions happen and"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "actually say okay I am not just the mind"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and the emotions. I can there's a part"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "of me witness consciousness some people"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "call it you know that's actually"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "experiencing all this that is going on"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "but doesn't actually have to engage and"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "then from there it seems that this is"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "kind of where you're saying that that's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "where the pattern starts to change."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Yeah. So so many people now that are"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "gravitating towards this work h are yoga"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "teachers cuz they understand it in a"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "physical gut level. They they experience"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "it. And there's absolutely no doubt in"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "my mind that if you start wondering"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "who's doing the observing of your"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "thoughts,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> that's who you really are. Right? So 95%"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "of who we are by the time we're 35 years"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "old is a set of memorized behaviors,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "emotional reactions, unconscious"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "hardwired attitudes, beliefs,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "perceptions that function like a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "subconscious computer program. So people"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "want to change. They use the 5% of their"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "conscious mind. But it's the body that"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "has become the mind. Right?"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> So the energy is stored in the body."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> So then how do you get the mind out of"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the body, right? How do you begin to"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "liberate that energy? And so the moment"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "you start paying attention to how you're"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "thinking, the moment you start thinking"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "about what you're thinking, the moment"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "you start observing how you're behaving,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "how you speak, the moment you notice, my"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "god, I've been feeling guilt for the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "last 30 years. I didn't even think it"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "was guilt. I thought it was just how I"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "felt."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> The moment you do that, you're no longer"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the program. Right?"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> You're the consciousness observing the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "program. And we begin to objectify the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "subjective self. That's who you really"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "are when you're not immersed in that"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "program. So the first step in really"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "beginning to remmanage your energy is to"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "be able to observe those states of mind"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "and body without judgment, without"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "reaction and sitting in the presence of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that emotional state and not turning on"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "the TV or getting in your cell phone,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "but sitting with it and transmuting it"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "into something else. So then your"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "personality creates your personal"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "reality and your personality is made up"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "of how you think, how you act and how"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "you feel. So the present personality"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "who's watching this show has created the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "present personal reality called their"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "life. Which means if you want to create"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "a new personal reality, a new life, you"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "have to begin to change your"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "personality. And that means then you got"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "to light a match in a dark place. And"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "just because you have a thought doesn't"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "necessarily mean it's true. So those"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "subconscious thoughts that are happening"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "behind the scenes of people's awareness"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "are always saying, \"I can't. It's too"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "hard. I'll never change. I'll start"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "tomorrow. This doesn't feel right. I"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "want to take my life. Nobody loves me.\""}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "They believe those thoughts, but those"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "are just old circuits that have been"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "stored in their brains. So then the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "moment they start complaining and"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "blaming and making excuses and feeling"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "sorry for themselves and they all of a"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "sudden start to see themselves through"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "the eyes of someone else or they"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "discover my god I am so happy being"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "unhappy"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> that actually I get attention for being"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "this way the moment they say that you"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "see most people try to create a new"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "personal reality as the same personel"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "and it doesn't work you literally have"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "to become someone else. So then the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "model of meditation says okay what"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "thoughts do I want to fire and wire in"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "my brain and put my attention behind"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "what behaviors do I want to demonstrate"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "today and the act of mental rehearsal of"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "closing your eyes and rehearsing your"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "actions begins to install the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "neurological hardware in your brain to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "look like the experience has already"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "happened. Now the brain is no longer a"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "record of the past. Now it's a map to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "the future. And if you keep doing it"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "over and over again, the hardware will"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "become a software program. And who"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "knows, you just may start acting like a"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "happy person. No magic there. You"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "installed the circuitry. You may start"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "thinking in more unlimited ways. Well,"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "you primed your brain for that. Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "here's the tough part."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Can you teach your body emotionally what"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "that future is going to feel like before"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the actual experience? So that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "mean now you're going to wait for your"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "uh success to feel empowered and you're"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "not going to wait for your wealth to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "feel abundance or or worthiness or uh"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "wait for your healing to feel gratitude"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "and wholeness or your new relationship"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "to feel love or the mystical experience"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "to feel awe. That's kind of the old"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "model of reality of cause and effect."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Waiting for something outside of us to"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "change how we feel inside of us. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Newtonian physics. But the quantum model"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "of reality is about causing an effect."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Which means the moment you start feeling"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "abundant, you're generating wealth. The"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "moment you start feeling empowered,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "you're stepping towards your success."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "The moment you start feeling gratitude"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "and wholeness, your healing begins. The"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "moment you're in awe of life, you're"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "going to have a mystical experience. The"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "moment you're in love with yourself,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "you're going to find an equal. That's"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "causing an effect. So then it requires"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "then just a re-education. And so the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "yogic traditions, they were contemporary"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "5,000 years ago."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> And that language today no longer fits."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "The language to explain this is science."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> So in the workshops we do, we we there's"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "a strong element of learning philosophy,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "knowledge, theory. But then when you"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "turn to the person next to you and you"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "explain it and you begin to build a"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "model of understanding, you are actually"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "installing the neurological hardware in"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "your brain in preparation for an"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "experience. And the more you understand"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "what you're doing and why, the how gets"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "easier. So you begin to demystify the"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "process. That means then you got to"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "modify your behaviors. You got to get"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "your behaviors to match your intentions."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "You got to begin to personalize it. You"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "got to begin to demonstrate it. Uh you"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "got to begin to do something about it."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "So when you initiate that knowledge, if"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "you do it properly, you're going to have"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "a new experience. An experience then"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "enriches the circuits in your brain. And"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the end product of an experience is"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "called an emotion. But it's not guilt,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "it's not unworthiness, it's not anger,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "it's not fear. The moment you feel"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "unlimited, the moment you feel whole,"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "the moment you feel worthy, now you're"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "teaching your body chemically to"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "understand what your mind is"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "intellectually understood. So you could"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "say that knowledge is for the mind and"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "experience is for the body. Now you're"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "embodying the truth of that philosophy"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "and you're literally signaling new genes"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "in new ways and changing your genetic"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "destiny. Now if you've done it once, it"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "means you should be able to do it again."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "And if you can repeat any experience"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "over and over again, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "neurochemically condition your mind and"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "body to begin to work as one. And when"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "you've done something so many times that"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "your body now knows how to do it as well"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "as your mind, now it's innate in you."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "It's second nature. It's easy. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "familiar. So now our job is to go from"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "philosopher to initiate to master. From"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "knowledge to experience to wisdom, from"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "mind to body, the soul, from thinking to"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "doing to being to learning it with your"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "head, applying it with your hands and"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "knowing it by heart. And we have all the"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "biological and neurological machinery to"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "do it."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "What would be your"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "top recommendation for people who are"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "maybe just starting the work that you're"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "sharing? Especially when they come and"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "they get there's all these ideas that oh"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "my gosh this sounds great. I really want"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "to be supernatural. I want to change you"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "know the way my mind thinks. I want to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "create my own reality. But everything"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "I'm hearing you say which has been also"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "my experience is it takes some serious"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "work and we do get met up against some"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "serious resistance of personal beliefs"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "of challenges. What would be your top"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "recommendation for someone who's really"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "entering on this path and still finds"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "themsel really coming up with some"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "serious blocks inside of their own um"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "experience, having to change their mind,"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "having um depressing feelings, having"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": ">> sure"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> uh questions about it all."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Number one, never stop learning"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "that we have to reprogram the way we"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "think about reality. When I wrote you"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "are the placebo, I was so angry with"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "myself cuz I couldn't believe how"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "programmed into limitation that we are."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "So this isn't something that you do in"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "one bite. It takes a process. But"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "there's a formula. We now know there's a"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "formula. And if you follow the formula,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "you'll begin to make significant"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "changes. So learn learn the science of"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "transformation. Number two, make time"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "for yourself. When you invest in"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "yourself, you invest in your future."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "That means then in the morning before"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "you start your day, ask yourself, what"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "is the greatest ideal of myself that I"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "can be today?"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "And begin to denature the programs of"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "those thoughts. And if you don't know"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "what those thoughts are, sit with your"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "eyes closed. They'll come up. Write them"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "down. The word meditation literally"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "means to become familiar with. That's"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "what it means. When you become so"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "familiar with your old self, those"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "thoughts, those behaviors, those"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "emotions that you would never go"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "unconscious again, now you're the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "governor of your thoughts. Now you're so"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "familiar with them, you know they're not"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "true. And nerve cells that no longer"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "fire together no longer wire together."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "And it takes an act of will in the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "beginning. But then if you say, \"I'm not"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "going to get up until I am this person.\""}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "This is the work. So then you begin to"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "construct a future. Now you're believing"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "in your future more than you're"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "believing in your past. You're falling"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "in love with your future more than"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "you're falling in love with your past."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "You're telling a story of your future"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "more than you're telling the story of"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "your past. And you say, \"I'm not going"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "to get up from this meditation until I"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "feel like it's already happened. Now is"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "where the rubber hits the road.\" And"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "when you get up in a new state of being,"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "your job is to maintain that modified"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "state of mind and body your entire day,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "independent of the people in your life,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "the conditions in your life, independent"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "of what your your however your body"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "feels and independent of time. And doing"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "that properly, all of a sudden, you"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "start showing up unpredictable in your"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "life. People start saying, uh,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "something's different about you. What"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "what's different about you? And you're"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "just not the same person cuz your energ"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "is different. Your mind and body are"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "different. And your brain and body are"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "literally in the future instead of the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "past. People are doing it all over the"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "world. The side effect is tremendous"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "healing, new jobs, new relationships,"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "new opportunities, mystical experiences,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "you know, the stuff we deserve to have"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "in our lives."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> So, Dr. Dr. Joe, will you give us a tip"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "that people can use anywhere at any time"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "to start to implement some of these"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "concepts that you shared with us today"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "to make lasting changes and"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "reprogramming and getting out of this"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "thinking feeling loop?"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": ">> Sure. When you change your breath, you"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "change your brain waves. It's really"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "simple."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Sit down, close your eyes, slow your"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "breath down, place your attention in"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "your heart. That's where your elevated"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "emotions start. When your heart begins"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "to open and you start to feel elevated"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "emotions like gratitude or joy or"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "inspiration and you breathe and feel"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "those emotions, the heart begins to beat"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "in a more rhythmic fashion and it begins"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "to produce a very very measurable"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "magnetic field. That energy is a"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "frequency and all frequency carries"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "information. So as you begin to elevate"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "your emotional state, you're literally"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "changing your physiology."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "When you begin to feel elevated, that"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "energy carries a thought. So lay the"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "intent of some experience you want to"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "have. Now that means then when you"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "combine a clear intention with an"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "elevated emotion, you're literally"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "changing your energetic field. When"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "there's a vibrational match between your"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "energy and some potential in the future,"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "all of a sudden now you don't have to go"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "anywhere to get anything. You start to"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "see it come to you. So take a couple"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "breaths, slow your breathing down, bring"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "up an elevated emotion. If you have to"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "do it connected to somebody or something"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "until you can feel it with your heart,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "feel it within you and all around you."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "And then all of a sudden lay the intent"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "of something you want to experience in"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "your future and see what happens. be the"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "scientist and experiment with it."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": ">> Well, Dr. Joe, thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "being here today. Really appreciate the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "conversation and thank you for all of"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "the work that you're doing out there in"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "the world to help empower people on this"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "path of healing and transformation. I"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "look forward to talking again sometime"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "soon. Thank you."}]

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Every piece of the something"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "contains the entire something"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> to one degree or another in one form or"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "[music] another. And the consistency of"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "that experience suggests that it must"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "play a powerful role in our simulation"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "and why we're here to begin with."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Now the archaeological record preserves"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "that history and it tells us of"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "different kinds of global [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "conflict and for me this is the value of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "looking at the past. Yeah sure it's"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "interesting you know it's interesting"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "[music] to look at ancient"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "civilizations. 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[music] And it would make"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "sense if the answer is yes now that we"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "understand the fractal code and Newton's"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "laws of energy because the fractal code"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "says [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "that we will continue those patterns"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "until something something in the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "variable changes and Newton's law tells"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "us that once the energy is set into"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "motion that same energy is going to"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "continue until something changes the"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "energy. 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We're all one.\""}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Suddenly, it began to make sense because"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "my mind needed something to hang that"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "nice thought upon. I wanted it to be"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "true. I just didn't know in my training"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "as a scientist. There was nothing that"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "led me to believe that it could really"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "be true. So, the entanglement is one one"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "of the descriptions of the nature of of"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "this relationship. The second is what is"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "called a hologram or a holographic"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "principle. And I I I wanted to to lay"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "the foundation so we could share both of"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "these together."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "In a hologram, the definition of a"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "hologram is that every piece of"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "something mirrors the entire something,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "no matter how large or how small that"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "is. Uh so I'd like to give an example of"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "uh of what that means. I'm a very visual"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "person to help illustrate this. 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And there was one of of a"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "great pyramid and the dolphin and a rose"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "unfolding. There were a number of them"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "out there."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "those little bookmarks. If you have one,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "you can do an experiment, but you can"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "only do it once because it'll destroy"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "your bookmark in the process. But if"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "it's a truly a holographic bookmark, you"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "can take that bookmark and you can cut"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "it into a bajillion little pieces with a"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "pair of scissors. And you can take the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "smallest one of those pieces, a little"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "fleck under a microscope with an X-acto"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "knife, and cut it in half even again,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and take that little fleck and look at"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "it under magnification, and you'll still"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "see the entire image in that fleck, no"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "matter how small, no matter what shape"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "it is. And this is by definition, this"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "is the holographic principle. Every"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "piece of the something contains the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "entire something on uh on a different"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "scale of of magnitude. And this is"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "important because it is now believed"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "that we are holographic in nature. That"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "we mirror all that there is in this"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "universe. That the universe is"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "holographic in nature. William Blake"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "said this so beautifully in in his poem."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "He said uh the entire the entire world"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "is reflected in a grain of sand and it's"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "more than a nice poetic uh saying. There"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "there is truly uh something to this this"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "fact and it is it is through the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "holographic principle that nature it's"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "one of the most powerful principles in"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "nature and perhaps one of the least"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "understood because it is through the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "principle of of the hologram and the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "entanglement that nature can create a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "lot of change in the entire universe by"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "initiating that change in only one"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "place. Because by definition of the"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "hologram, every every fragment mirrors"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "the whole. So when a change is made in"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "one fragment, that change is mirrored in"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the whole of a living hologram. That's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "important for us because it says to us"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "that when we create peace at our family"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "dinner table or in our communities for"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "example that that peace is experienced"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "in the hologram of consciousness of the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "divine matrix uh uh in a way that"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "extends much more than than simply is"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "not simply limited to to our family"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "dinner table or our or our prayer group."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Uh and and this is why our prayers"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "people ask me all the time they say if I"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "if I am praying for my loved one in the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "battlefield of Iraq halfway around the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "world I can make a really good prayer"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "but how do I get the prayer over there?"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "I mean it's got to go a long ways how"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "how do I get my prayer from here to"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "there? And this is the beauty of the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "hologram."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "So these are big ideas and I know they"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "are and I'm bringing them together now"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "at the close of this series because we"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "have the vocabulary and we have a new"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "context within which to share these"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "ideas. So what I'd like to do now is"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "give you a specific example of what I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "talking about this pattern of conflict"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "and whether or not repeating the cycles."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "I'm going to use archaeology,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "contemporary archaeology to do this."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "There was an archaeological discovery"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "[music] that was made in the mid 20th"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "century. Very mysterious, very powerful"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "discovery. It's very controversial"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "today. And it is in the region that is"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "now called Pakistan. Used to be India"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "before the division happened. Uh and in"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "the disputed areas between India and"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Pakistan in the Kashmir area, there's"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "evidence of an advanced technological"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "society, an advanced technological"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "civilization. They had hot and cold"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "running water. They had flushed toilets."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "They had stained glass windows. They had"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "advanced mathematics. They had"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "beautiful, beautiful art. And this"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "advanced civilization came to an abrupt"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "end. And we know that because of what"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "was left behind. Now, when the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "scientists began finding this evidence"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "of of this civilization, one of the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "first things that they found were walls"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "and floors that were made of natural"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "stone, granite, for example."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "But the term that was used at the stones"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "were vitrified. And what this means, I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "going to use granite as an example."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Granite is made of three minerals."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Quartz, feldspar, which is a clay, and"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "micica. So the quartz, the feltspar and"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the micica were in place. However, the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "quartz in place was melted [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "within the stone. Now to melt the quartz"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "in place requires number one a high"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "amount of heat to do the melting, but"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "number two it has to be very fast"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "because it didn't destroy the floors and"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "the walls. So it suggests a rapid very"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "high heat some point in our ancient past"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "that melted the quartz left everything"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "in place. They also found mysterious"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "little spheres uh little balls of clay."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "They didn't know what these were. And"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "when they began to understand that the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "walls and the floors were vitrified from"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "a rapid intense heat, they found that"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "these little spheres were clay voses"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "that had also been exposed to the heat."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "[music] and were simply melted in place."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "So the scientists are asking what is"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "that could have possibly caused [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "this kind of intense heat intense enough"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "to melt the quartz but so fast that the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "walls were still in place. Well, some of"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the human skeletons that were discovered"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "and this is very controversial. Some of"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "the human skeletons may give us a clue."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "The skeletons were found primarily in"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "this location. They were all at one end"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "of this ancient city in what are called"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "postures of flight. And these are"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Russian scientists in the mid 1960s"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "[music] that were the first to find this"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "postures of flight. What does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "It means they were running away from"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "something. They were all at one end of"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "the city and they were running."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> And the giveaway is that some of the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "skeletons were actually radioactive."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "[music] They were more radioactive than"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "you would expect from the normal"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "background radiation that we have from"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the Earth and [music] from cosmic rays."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "We're all absorbing radiation, but the"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "the level in these skeletons was higher"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "than it should have been. So, the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "scientists are are looking at this."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "They're putting this all together and"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "they're saying, \"What in the world could"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "happen?\" And this is one of those places"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "where if you look at the evidence"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "itself,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "you're never going to solve the mystery."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "We don't live in a vacuum. History"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "[music] does not occur in a vacuum. And"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "this is where context is so important."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "So the evidence is showing us a mystery."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "However, in that part of the world, the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "sacred text of Mahabarata [music] tells"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "a story that is believed to have been a"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "fairy tale. It is believed to have been"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "a fairy tale because what it describes"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "is something that is [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "infathomable"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "up until the 20th century. What this"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "text describes makes no [music] sense"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "until the technology of the midentth"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "century. So what I'd like to do, I'd"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "like to read a portion of an English"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "translation [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "to you from this text and then let's"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "take this translation, apply it to what"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "has been found archaeologically, [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "and see where that leaves us in terms of"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "the cycles in our simulation."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "So here are [music] the passages from"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "the text. There were two armies that"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "were in a great war at the end of a"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "cycle. All right. 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They're unmistakable and the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "evidence is showing us more likely than"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "not we are in fact in this simulation."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "So what I'd [music] like to do in this"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "last segment now is pull all this"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "together. Let's get down to the nuts and"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "bolts of what this experience means."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Let's jump right into what it means to"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "be in a simulation. The implications and"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "the questions that invariably come up."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Questions like where's heaven? Where is"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "heaven? When we [music] think about our"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "simulation and we think of the"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "descriptions of heaven, the word itself"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "was left to [music] us about 2500 years"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "ago. What does that mean to us in terms"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "of the simulation? Well, simulation is a"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "localized experience, but it tells us"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "we're not really here. You're not really"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "here. We exist somewhere outside of the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "simulation [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "and we are projecting our energetic"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "body, what we call our spirit or our"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "soul or our avatar into this experience"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "so that we can learn something here that"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "apparently we cannot learn where we've"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "come from and that apparently we're"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "going to need wherever we are going. Now"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "this is a really really powerful [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "concept. The idea that we are not here"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "and the biology actually supports it."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "What the biology is showing us is that"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "our cells receive information that"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "defines who we are. The surface of the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "cells, the receptors receive this"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "information. And that's why when we take"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "our cells and we put them into the body"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "of another person through an organ"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "transplant, for example, that person"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "rejects the cells because it's not them."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "We have an identity. That identity"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "begins somewhere beyond our simulation."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "And in terms of the ancient texts, that"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "is what was called heaven. When we leave"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "our simulation, we shift our"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "consciousness. We go back to where it is"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that we came from. And for me, I I"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "believe that and I think it's really"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "good news. It means that we will see our"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "friends and our loved ones again on the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "other side, what is called the veil. On"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "the other side of that veil. And I I"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "hope that there's [music] a time on that"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "other side that we can look back and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "review everything we've done in [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "this world and hopefully laugh about"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "some of the mistakes that we've made"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "that we've made while we were trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "learn about ourselves in this"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "simulation. So heaven heaven I believe"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "is the ancient word for the world that"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "we live in that exists on the other side"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "outside of the simulation that we find"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "ourselves in right now. So the next"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "question, what does that mean for death?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Where do we go when we die? If [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "this simulation theory works the way"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "that the science suggests and the way"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "that I [music] believe that the evidence"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "is directing us, it's really good news"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "because it means when we die, what we"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "call death is the end of this"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "representation of us in this limited"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "simulation. what we would call our"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "avatar. Just as we're seeing portrayed"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "in the films, in the media, again,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "consciousness reminding us of ourselves,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "communicating with us, informing [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "us of the reality of of our world"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "consciously and subconsciously. So when"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "we [music] die, this avatar no longer"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "exists in [music] the physical realm,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "but our essence that we've projected"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "continues in the [music] realm outside"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "perhaps another physical body."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> But I began to explore why mainstream"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "physicists would uh at at leading"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "universities would begin to to look at"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "things this way. And my my training, I"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "was a senior computer systems designer"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "uh for Martin Marriott Aerospace during"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "during the cold war years. So of course"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "it's my language. But the more I began"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "to understand and I looked at the"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "comparisons, every computer has a"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "language that it uses to get things"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "done. Uh consciousness is the operating"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "system of this universal computer and"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "belief is the language that it"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "recognizes. Uh every computer turns bits"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "of information off and on to make things"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "happen. And I said, \"Well, in the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "universe we don't have bits.\" And uh and"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "I began looking at the comparisons and"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "they're looking at literally the stuff"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "our world is made of. The atoms are the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "bits. When the atoms are turned on and"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "in physical existence, they are reality."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "When they are not turned on, they are"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "unatoms or anti-atoms or anti-atter that"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "are not in existence. And they're"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "they're taking this uh so seriously this"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "uh this proposition that we may"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "literally be living a simulation of of"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "some kind that they've done mathematic"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "modeling to determine"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the probability that we are or are not"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "living a simulation. And the the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "mathematics suggest strongly that we are"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "living in a simulation. And the reason"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "I'm I'm mentioning this here, I know"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "it's a very different way of thinking"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "about things. It sounds like the movie"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "The Matrix, but where did that come"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "from? The reason that this is important"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "is because when we begin talking about"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "the soul, what the ancient indigenous"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "traditions say to us is that while a"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "part of our soul uh speaks and"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "experiences through this body, we're not"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "really here at all. That our higher self"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "uh is is a part of a greater existence."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "And we always go like this. somewhere"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "else expressing through this body. We've"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "just come back from uh a tour in"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Australia. Uh and the Aboriginals in"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Australia as well as many other"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "traditions say this isn't the real"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "world. This is the illusionary world. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "and and they spend more of their time in"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "what they believe is the real world,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "what we would call the dream state. So"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "all of this ties together when we talk"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "about life and death, uh existence,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "consciousness between lifetimes. Where"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "do we go when we leave this body?"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> But when you take into account what the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "words say that those words actually have"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "meaning, God eternal within the body."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": ">> And they all say that"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> the the first letter in all human DNA,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "if if you can look at the what's called"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the the genetic code, CT, uh, every one"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "of those is made up of combinations of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> and they they are arranged. I don't want"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "to be really technical when I talk about"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "this, but they're they're arranged uh"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "different numbers of carbon, oxygen,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "hydrogen, nitrogen atoms. So, within"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "each of the DNA bases that make our DNA"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "as it is, there are different"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "combinations of CTA that break down to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "different combinations of God eternal"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "within the body. and the god within"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "ourselves within our DNA is literally"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "the the same spelling uh of the the god"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "that was taken from those texts. Now,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "here's the beauty. I just have to say"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> My first fear was I found it in the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Hebrew language and I said, \"Does that"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "mean could it actually be divisive if it"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "only is found in one language?\" And when"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the research went to its fruition, what"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "we found is it is in Hebrew and Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "and Sanskrit, three of the root"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "languages,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> the same thing."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> Exactly the same thing. So in Hebrew,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Aramaic and Sanskrit, the the code for"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "those letters translates precisely the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "same in the human DNA. That's the first"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "layer."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> In your opinion, that slogan, God"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "eternal, is in the body. What did that"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "mean? What it tells me [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "uh is because the odds of that happening"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "by chance are are astronomical"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> are steep. It tells me there's an"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "intentionality. Now who or what I I"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "don't know the answer to that but that"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "tells me that uh that the DNA the way"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "it's formed uh is"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "uh it is intentional and then I began to"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "think uh in our modern world we're"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "creators we're artists whenever we"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "create something that we're proud of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "what's when we're finished what's the"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "last thing we do we finish it you tell"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "me what is the last thing we do with"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "something we finish a painting and"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "what's the last thing we do when we"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "finish that painting"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> you sign it"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> we put our name on it. If there's an"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "intentionality underlying life itself"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and human life specifically, it would"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "make tremendous sense to me that who or"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "whatever is responsible would somehow"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "have left a sign."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> Is it God's signature?"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> I believe that how however we define"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that, whoever whatever we believe that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "creator is. My next question is why not"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "put it into a text or into a temple"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "wall? And then my thinking was why place"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "that signature into something that can"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "crumble over a few thousand years like a"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "temple wall or into a the pages of a"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "book"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> that can be destroyed. Why not put it in"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the creation itself? And as long as the"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "creation exists, the message exists as"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "well. I published this in 2004. Even"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "though the research was incomplete, it"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "it was complete to that point. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "wanted to share this with the world."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "2007, Japanese scientists released a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "report, peer-reviewed report on the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "feasibility of storing data in DNA for"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "thousands of years. And what they were"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "looking at is is bacteria. They were"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "looking at storing information in"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "bacteria"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> and placing the bacteria in nuclear"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "waste dumps, for example,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> and letting it sit there"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> and letting it sit there because the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "papers might disintegrate or something"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "else might happen. that if if they could"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "do it. So 2007 was the first time they"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "successfully"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "implanted a message into the DNA of a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "bacteria and they use bacteria because"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> hoping that someone in the future one"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "day would use it."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> Well, this was a test. They used the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "bacteria because they have a short"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "lifespan so they could see how many"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "generations, you know, for a bacteria"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "the generations maybe just a few days."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> the the code they put into the DNA it"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "was uh"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": ">> don't say it was the same thing. No, it"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "was Einstein's theory of it was E E="}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "MC^² in the year 1905."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "They encoded that into the DNA."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> They allowed it the DNA [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "to replicate for 25 generations"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> with that code"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> with the code. They pulled the code"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "right out completely intact. So what"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "they're they're now demonstrating"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "uh purely uh in the scientific realm is"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the feasibility of storing literal"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "information uh in the in the genome in"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the DNA and it remains intact for as"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "long as the organism remains intact."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Well, here's the puzzling part. If you"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "put a code in there, you're doing it for"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "one of several reasons. One, you're"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "hiding it. or two, you're trying to pass"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "information on to some future"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "generation."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "So let's assume that that's what that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> When we extract it and we get that code,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "what do we do with it?"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": ">> What's it mean?"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> I think it depends on what the code"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "says. Now we know and the work is"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "progressing from this point and in 2015"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "uh another layer will have been"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "completely decoded and hopefully you and"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "I can have this conversation and I'll"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "share what what we find next. The the"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "point is that there is a message encoded"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "into the DNA of all human life that"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "tells us beyond any reasonable doubt"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "that the differences that divide us now"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "are superficial differences and that we"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> have a common origin, a common ancestry."}]

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If consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "informing us of something that we need"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to know about ourselves through the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "things that we create to remind"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "ourselves of ourselves, what are those"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "films telling us? Well, examples include"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "hugely popular movies like The Matrix,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "for example, or Avatar or the movie"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Inception."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "What are films like these saying to us?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "What part of our reality are they"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "reminding us of? Well, if we look at the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "common themes, they'll give us a clue."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "As different as they are from one"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "another, each of these movies is"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "suggesting number one that there is a"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "world that exists. We simply cannot see"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "from our limited perspective. But this"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "world influences our everyday lives."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Number two, we're told that we're"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "limited in our lives only until we wake"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "up to the parameters of this unseen"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "world. 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We invite into the deepest"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "recesses of our bodies, the breath of"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "life from the world beyond our bodies."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "We breathe in what is called the sacred"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "breath."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "We breathe it into our bodies and we"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "draw it deep into our diaphragm. And"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "once that breath is in the diaphragm, we"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "begin to massage that breath with our"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "diaphragm with the muscles in our"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "diaphragm in a very precise way. 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So, one of the first"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "scientific links to what I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "about here, the link between the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "language that we use and our biology,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "the way that our neurons fire was made"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "early in the 20th century by a linguist."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "His name was Benjamin Lee Warf. And the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "ideas that Benjamin Warf"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "shared in the world of linguistics, in"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "the world of science, they were radical"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "for his time. What he said is this."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Number one, he said that the way that we"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "speak actually influences the way that"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "we think. But perhaps even more"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "importantly, number two, he said the way"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "that we speak influences what we think."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "that our thoughts, what we are capable"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "of thinking are actually linked to the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "way our neurons are being wired. 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What warf found was"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "that in the hopey language they see"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "everything is alive, everything is"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "connected, everything is present. And"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "now"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "from the hopey perspective, there are"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "only two realms of possibility. One is"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the realm of things that are manifesting"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "in the present and one is the realm of"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "things that are already manifest. The"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Hopi do not think about time the way"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "that we think about time."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "From their perspective, the manifest is"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "everything that has already happened."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "It's everything that we can sense,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "everything that we can experience. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "what's already occurred in the world."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "From this perspective, the manifesting"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "is what is unfolding in this moment and"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "is actually called in the language the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "spirit of the breath. It includes"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "whatever is unfolding in the moment now"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "as well as what's possible in the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "future. Now these may seem like"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "insignificant"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "changes that I'm talking about between"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the way that the hopy think and the way"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "we think but they have very powerful"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "implications. Science is only a"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "language. It's a good language. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "only one language that describes our"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "world. And there are many other"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "languages and I think for me this is the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "value of going into the monasteries of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Tibet and Bolivia and Peru and Nepal."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "We've been in monasteries in Egypt uh in"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "their their libraries their records for"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "1500 years. people who have live have"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "lived the traditions and perpetuated and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "taught them because we can look at them."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "I can look at another human eye to eye,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "heartto-he heart, God to God in that"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "moment directly or through a translator"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "and I can ask them human to human. I can"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "say when you just did that miraculous"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "healing,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "what happened in your body to make that"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "happen? How'd you do that? And if I"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "don't understand what they say, I can"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "ask them again and again and again until"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "they either kick me out of the monastery"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "because they're tired of my questions or"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "they will answer my question. And in"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "this way, we learn from this"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "5,000-year-old uh heritage"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "uh of our past and we marry that with"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the best science of of our day today. Uh"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "in the book Small Miracles, there is an"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "amazing story. It's it's a true story"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "and I share it with our audiences a lot."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "Uh of what many people would call a"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "miracle and for me it's uh it's a"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "demonstration of just how real this"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "field is that connects everything. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "a story of a young Jewish boy, his name"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "was Joey uh who at the age uh I believe"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "of 19 suddenly woke up one morning began"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "to question 5,000 years of Jewish"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "tradition. He began to question all of"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the things he'd been taught by his"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "family. uh and his father took it as a"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "personal offense. He said, \"How can you"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "question this this lineage of of of"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "wisdom and tradition?\" And Joyce said,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "\"I've got to go out in the world and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "find out for myself if if these things"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "are true or not.\" And his father said,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "\"Uh, if you turn your back on your"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "tradition and you go out in the world"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "and search for yourself,\" he said,"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "\"you're no longer my son. I have no"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "son.\" And Joey said, \"I've got to do"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "this.\" And he and he left. and he went"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "into the world and he studied uh in the"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "ancient and in the uh the eastern"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "traditions, Buddhist traditions uh in"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "the Jewish traditions and he was in a"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "small cafe"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "uh and I believe it was in Paris and you"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "never know who's going to walk into"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "those cafes and a friend of his walked"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "in from the states that he hadn't seen"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "since he left and the first thing his"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "friend said was I was so sorry Joey to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "hear about the death of your father and"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "it was the first Joey knew that his"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "father had died and so he immediately"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "came back to the states and he began uh"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "speaking to his father's friends and"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "their neighbors. And what he found is"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "rather than turning his back on his son,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "his father had done just the opposite."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "He was so proud of his son for having"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "the strength to question 5,000 years of"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "faith. And he he spoke about his son"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "incessantly and honored his son's"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "courage. And this led Joey back into the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Jewish tradition that he had left to"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "explore. uh and it eventually led him in"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "a traditional pilgrimage to the to the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "holy wall in Jerusalem. And uh if you've"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "ever seen this wall, you know that it's"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "made out of these massive uh stone"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "bricks that have been there for so long"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that the mortar holding them together"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "has fallen out. So where the mortar used"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "to be, they're empty spaces. 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And he was pacing back"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "and forth in front of the wall looking"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "for just the right place where he would"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "leave his prayer. And there was a place"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "that caught his eye. 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Because what"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "the scientists did was into the vessel"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "[music] that had completely random"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "photons, they put human DNA. Human DNA"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "because they wanted to [music] see if"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "human DNA has an effect on the photons."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "And before I go any further, I just"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "going to invite you to think about what"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "they're asking. Photons are the stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "this world is made of. DNA is the stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "we're made of. 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[music] So"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "here's what they did. They took human"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "DNA and they placed [music] it inside"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "the vessel. And then they measured the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "DNA again to see [music] what would"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "happen. And they measured the photons"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "again to see what would happen. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "results of this experiment [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "changed the way we have been conditioned"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "to think about ourselves in the world."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Because the photons went from being"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "completely random when they were first"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "measured [music] and in the presence of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "the human DNA, the photons are no longer"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "random. They are ordered. They followed"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "precisely the geometry of the DNA. 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Now, although the observer"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "effect [music] was first documented"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "during the first double slit experiments"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "early in the 20th century, as [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "happens so often with these very"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "important experiments, this particular"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "experiment was repeated later in the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "century using even better equipment with"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "new ideas [music] and new"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "understandings. And I'd like to share"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "with you precisely the exact language of"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "what the scientists at the Whitesman"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Research Institute discovered when they"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "repeated the double slit [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "experiment. 1998"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "scientific headlines all over the world"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "[music] reported this experiment and"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "they read and this is a quote"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "researchers at the Whitesman Institute"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "of Science conducted a highly controlled"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "experiment demonstrating how a beam"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "of electrons so these are quantum"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "particles a beam of electrons is"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "affected by the act of being observed"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "but even beyond that [music] that"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "observation effect that was noted early"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "in the century. But listen to this."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Listen [music] to the new portion of"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "this discovery."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "The scientist said, quote, [music] \"The"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "experiment revealed that the greater the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "amount of watching, the greater the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "observer's [music] influence on what"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "actually takes place.\" End of quote. And"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "this was actually reported in the very"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "prestigious journal, Nature, uh, [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "February 26, 1998, volume 391, if you"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "want to look it up for yourself. This"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "[music] experiment is telling us that"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "not only are we intimately imshed"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "with the world around us [music] and"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "with the world within us, but the more"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "focus, the greater our focus, the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "greater the attention that we [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "give specifically something that is"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "happening in our lives, the greater the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "effect. But I think this is interesting"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "because we already knew this if we"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "followed the principles [music] in some"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "of our most ancient again and cherished"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "spiritual traditions. For example, in"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the sutra from the Mahayana Buddhist"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "traditions, there is a statement that"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "essentially [music] summarizes what the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Whitesman experience just told us. And"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "that statement [music] says, quote,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "\"Reality exists only where the [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "mind creates a focus.\" Reality exists"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "only where the mind creates a focus."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "[music] So the ancient Buddhist"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "traditions, they didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "science, but they sure understood the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "principle. They understood the mechanism"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "where we create this convergence of"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "thought, feeling and emotion where we"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "create that focus that is us observing"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "the world around us. [music] And it is"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "that experience and the fact that that"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "experience has such a powerful [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "effect in our lives that actually made"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Albert Einstein was making him crazy."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "This is the piece of the puzzle that"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Einstein was never able to solve. He"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "began early in the 20th century with his"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "theories of relativity. And he was"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "always searching [music] for a unified"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "theory, a unified field theory. Here's"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "what I mean by that. 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If anyone could do it, he could"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "do it. Here's where Einstein got stuck."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "And he actually admitted this on [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "his deathbed in the early 1950s. He got"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "stuck because he did not like the idea"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "that we [music] are so intimately"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "connected with our universe that we"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "could have any influence [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "whatsoever on the universe in one place"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "with us being in in another place. 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However, a dear friend and"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "colleague of Albert Einstein's a man"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "that lived much [music] longer than"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Einstein uh had a tremendously powerful"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "influence in quantum physics at"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Princeton [music] University in our"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "world today was Professor John Wheeler."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "He passed away just uh just just a few"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "years [music] ago. 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And I want to share"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "with you John Wheeler's exact words just"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "just so you you [music] can hear his"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "process and his thinking and how"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "passionate he was about this. John"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "Wheeler said, \"We had this old idea that"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "there is a universe out there [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "somewhere.\" And here's man, he called"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "the observer safely [music] protected"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "from the universe by what he called a"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "6in slab of plate glass. Okay? So, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "not [music] really plate glass, but that"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "is his way of saying that there is"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "something between us and the universe"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "out there. But he continues. He said,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "'Now we learn that to even observe an"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "electron, we have to shatter that plate"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "glass. Listen to what he said. He said,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "so the old word observer simply has to"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "be crossed off the books. He [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "said there are no observers. We must put"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "in the new word participator. No"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "observers, only participators. So what"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "does this mean? I'm going to just just"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "very very quickly encapsulate this idea"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "and why it's so powerful in our lives"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "because what John Wheeler has just said"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "to us tells us that we will never find"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "the smallest particle of matter. No"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "matter how many atoms and quantum"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "particles that we smash into one another"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "and break into a bajillion pieces"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "looking for smaller and smaller pieces"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "and we will never find the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "universe no matter how far we look to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "the edge of the cosmos. and [music] how"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "technologically sophisticated our"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "equipment is. And here's the reason why."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "What John Weather just said to us is"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that every place that we look into"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the universe, every place that we look"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "into nature with the expectation that"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "something is there for us to see,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "[music] the expectation is the principle"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "that will put something there for us to"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "see. 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And I I"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "began to see a connection in the texts"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "uh that was not accounted for in the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "theories of of evolution and it is a"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "connection that is very controversial"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "today. Now Darwin didn't have access to"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "the tools and the technology. He"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "certainly didn't have the DNA databases"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "that we didn't have anything. So this is"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "this is where I began. Part of my job in"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "software development was in writing"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "pattern recognition software. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "I've I've searched patterns ever since I"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> equated to this."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> Sure. It comes very naturally for me. I"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "used to you know look at patterns on"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "flashing patterns on blinking lights on"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "Christmas trees and I mean you know you"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "see them everywhere."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> So I thought if there are patterns uh in"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "nature and we are uh we are nature they"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "should show up in our DNA. And it was in"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "the 80s when the DNA databases uh we"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "could actually begin to access them"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "without being part of the research"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "projects."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> So to make a long story really brief"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "what I found"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> was in one of the most obscure uh and"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "ancient of the texts a book called the"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "safer"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> which is a it is a Hebrew text that has"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "only been translated a couple of times"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "of a couple of authors into English."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "It's so mysterious, George, that very"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "few scholars even want to talk about it"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "because they don't know what to say"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "about it. It's it's a brief text. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "only about 2,000 lines. All right?"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> And it is written as if an observer were"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "present the day that the creator created"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "humankind, step by step."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> However, it's written in a language that"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "doesn't make a lot of sense to"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> Is it like Genesis or totally different?"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> It's very different from Genesis. I"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "think Genesis probably partially derived"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "from this text the safer"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "uh which is the book of creation that"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "literally translates to the book of"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "creation. So it was as if someone were"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "watching the creator actually create the"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "first person"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> doing what he did"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> doing what he did but it is not written"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "scientifically."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "The bottom line to what the the text is"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "saying is that through language,"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "humankind was created. And that that"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "doesn't make a lot of sense that"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> if you take it literally,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> but as I began to follow the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "instructions as the author created them"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "in this text, and this George, this is"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "to me, this is the power of transcending"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "the boundaries between science and"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "spirituality. Because if if a a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "scientist only looked at the elements of"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "life, you'd never make this discovery."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "If you only look at the spiritual text,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "you would never make this discovery. But"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "it's by blending the two together and"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "allowing them to tell the story. So we"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "today in modern science, we talk about"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "life as as the result of elements and we"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "describe elements through word and"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "through number. So we have the periodic"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "table for example hydrogen nitrogen"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "oxygen carbon makes up the DNA of our"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "bodies. Those are the words and for"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "every one of those words there are a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "of numbers that may be applied. There"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "are 17 different numeric parameters that"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "go with each of those. So my friend said"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "you think it's science fiction. He said"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "matrix is actually a documentary about"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> And and the way things work in the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "world. So it may be that by working"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "backward through the code we do arrive"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "at at the doorstep of an architect at"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "some point."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> If you could get an answer to one"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "question,"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "what would that question be?"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> I think it's the question we're asking"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "right now. Why us? Why here? Why now?"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "there's another branch of work that uh"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "that this follows up on and it is the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "study of whether or not we are living in"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "a simulation or virtual reality and"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "there is a uh a degreed course in one of"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the large eastern universities in"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "philosophy that you can take and and the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "title of the course is are we living a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "simulation and to make a long story very"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "brief what they did was they took a very"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "complex computer algorithm um plugged in"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "all kinds of of variables about human"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "population and trajectories and"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "economies and families and religious"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "beliefs all you know all about life and"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "the bottom line uh is there's over a 93%"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "chance that we are living a simulation"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "now if you step into a simulation a"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "virtual environment in Disneyland you"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "can do that today and not even really"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "know that that's where you are and we've"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "only had computers about 60 years if you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "take the archaeology that's showing the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "existence of advanced technological"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "civilizations thousands of years. 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The"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "simulation is a safe place to make"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "mistakes and learn that power if we are"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "in fact on Earth living a simulation."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "And our our most cherished traditions"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "tell us that we're on our way somewhere"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "else. This isn't it. This is an"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "illusion. This is temporary. you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "in general they say that then I think we"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "have to look at what those traditions"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "are telling us and they're teaching us"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "about our relationship to reality uh to"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "uh to quantum reality to emotions and"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "emotions of the heart to create and heal"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "in our bodies and the world around us."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "And if we master those maybe that's what"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "this simulation is all about. God"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "eternal within the body uh may be uh the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "architect that has helped to create this"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "simulation."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> Do you ever get frustrated that we don't"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "have the answers?"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> I don't, George. I don't because what it"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "tells me is and what I've come to"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "understand is that when we are truly"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "ready for that information, it it's"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "right there. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "this is a perfect example. This this has"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "been around, you know, for 200,000"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "years. It's only when be discovered"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "though by those who look"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> or when our technology reaches the point"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "that it gives us the tools"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> true"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> to take a peek."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> It's almost like that code we sent out"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "on one of the Viking craft, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> Which Stephen Hawking said, \"Don't do"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "because he's afraid that they'll come"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "here and he's not so sure they're very"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "benevolent.\""}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Yeah. That uh it was interesting. I I"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "actually talk about that code in the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "book, The God Code. What What is it that"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "we said? Who did we write it to? and who"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "finds it"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> and how would it be interpreted?"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> So, it it makes perfect sense to me uh"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "if we are the product of an intentional"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "uh an intentional creation that the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "creator who or whatever that is would"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "somehow leave a mark letting us know"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "when we have the ability to to find"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> That is brilliant."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> And I I can't think of a more honoring"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "way to honor who or what that creator is"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "than to take that code, read it, and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "maybe communicate back the other way."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "And I think we we are on our way to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "doing that. The first letter in all"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "human DNA, if if you can look at the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "what's called the the genetic code, CTA"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "AG, uh every one of those is made up of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "combinations of carbon, oxygen,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "hydrogen, nitrogen,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> and they they are arranged I don't want"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "to be really technical when I talk about"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "this, but they're they're arranged uh"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "different numbers of carbon, oxygen,"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "hydrogen, nitrogen atoms. So within each"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "of the DNA bases that make our DNA as it"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "is, there are different combinations of"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "ctag that break down to different"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "combinations of God eternal within the"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "body. And the God within ourselves"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "within our DNA is literally the the same"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "spelling uh of the the God that was"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "taken from those texts. Now, here's the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "beauty. I just have to say this. All"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> My first fear was I found it in the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Hebrew language and I said, \"Does that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "mean could it actually be divisive if it"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "only is found in one language?\" And when"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the research went to its fruition, what"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "we found is it is in Hebrew and Aramaic"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "and Sanskrit, three of the root"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "languages,"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": ">> the same thing."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Exactly the same thing. So in Hebrew,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Aramaic and Sanskrit, the the code for"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "those letters translates precisely the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "same in the human DNA. That's the first"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "layer."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> In your opinion, that slogan, God"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "eternal is in the body. What did that"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "mean?"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> What it tells me"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "uh is because the odds of that happening"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "by chance are are"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> astronomical are steep. It tells me"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "there's an intentionality. Now, who or"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "what? I I don't know the answer to that"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "but that tells me that uh that the DNA"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the way it's formed uh is"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "uh it is intentional and then I began to"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "think uh in our modern world we're"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "creators we're artists whenever we"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "create something that we're proud of"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "what's when we're finished what's the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "last thing we do we finish it George you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "tell me what is the last thing we do"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "with something we finish a painting and"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "what's the last thing we do when we"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "finish that painting"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> you sign it"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> we put our name on it If there's an"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "intentionality underlying life itself"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "and human life specifically, it would"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "make tremendous sense to me that who or"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "whatever is responsible would somehow"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "have left a sign."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": ">> Is it God's signature?"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> I believe that how however we define"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "that whoever whatever we believe that"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "creator is. My next question is why not"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "put it into a text or into a temple"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "wall. And then my thinking was why place"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "that signature into something that can"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "crumble over a few thousand years like a"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "temple wall or into a the pages of a"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "book"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> that can be destroyed. Why not put it in"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "the creation itself? And as long as the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "creation exists, the message exists as"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "well. I published this in 2004. Even"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "though the research was incomplete, it"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "it was complete to that point. And I"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "wanted to share this with the"}]

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And"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "this is the coin he termed in 1944. Of"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "course the movie uh series was based on"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "the studies that came afterward but uh"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "it's actually been around since the mid"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "20th century. So this field, the matrix"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "or the divine matrix as it now is being"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "called is recognized is as the field of"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "intelligent nonconventional energy. It"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "doesn't work the way electricity or or"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "broadcast energy works. We identified"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "the science-based discovery of a field"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "of energy, a real life matrix that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "functions in three [music] very precise"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "ways. This matrix, number one, it's the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "container for the universe itself and"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "for all things that can happen in the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "universe. Number two, it's the bridge"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "between our [music] inner and our outer"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "worlds. Everything that happens from"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "within, our thoughts, feelings,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "emotions, [music] and beliefs are"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "conveyed to the world beyond our bodies"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "through this field. Number three, the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "mirror. The mirror. This field is a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "mirror in the world for [music] what we"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "claim to be true in our deepest"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "sometimes subconscious beliefs. Well,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "scientists are no longer asking the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "question, are we connected? The field"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "tells us that we are. 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What they are showing, however, has"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "opened the door to a possibility [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "that modern science is now struggling"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "with. So, let's take a look at these two"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "experiments. [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "The first one was published in the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Russian bulletin of the Leb Physics"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Institute 1992."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "And the experiment begins with something"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "seemingly very innocent, a glass vessel,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "a vase where all of the air has been"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "[music] completely drawn out of this"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "vessel to create what we call a vacuum."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "So a vacuum [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "implies that this vessel is empty. But"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "we know it's not completely empty"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "because there are still little photons"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "of light that remain in this vessel."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "[music] Scientists know this. So the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "question now is where are those photons?"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "They want to get a [music] baseline and"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "see where the photons are right now. So"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "the first part of this experiment,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "[music] they draw the air out of the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "vessel and then they measure where these"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "photons are in the vessel. Are they all"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "piled up on the bottom? Are they"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "floating around the inside? Are they all"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "stuck to the edges? And what they found"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "was no surprise. [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "The vessel showed that these photons are"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "completely random. They're completely"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "random. By the way, these are the same"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "kinds of photons, the particles of"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "matter that make up the atom itself. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "we're dealing with these fundamental"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "particles of the [music] stuff that our"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "world is made of. And that's important."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "So the scientists found that [music] the"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "distribution of the photons in this in"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "this vessel was completely random. No"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "surprise that's what they expected."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "The next piece of this experiment is"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "where while the experiment is"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "fascinating, what I find really"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "fascinating is the thinking of the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "scientists that made the experiment"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "possible. For a scientist trained in the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "scientific method based upon all of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "those false assumptions that we saw"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "earlier in this program, those"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "assumptions of of separation for the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "scientists to move out of that box of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "thinking and begin asking new questions"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "like what if our assumptions are wrong?"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "What would that tell us about our world?"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "That's where it gets really interesting"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "and that's what the next part of this"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "experiment is all about. Because what"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "the scientists did was into the vessel"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "that had completely random photons,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "they put human DNA. Human DNA because"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "they wanted to see if human DNA has an"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "effect on the photons. Before I go any"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "further, I just going to invite you to"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "think about what they're asking. Photons"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "are the stuff this world is made of. DNA"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "is the stuff we're made of. [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "And they're asking, scientists are"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "asking in the laboratory, does the stuff"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "[music] we're made of have an effect on"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "the stuff our world is made of. This is"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "where it starts to sound like science"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "fiction or at least something that an"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "advanced [music] yogi would be working"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "with. But these are in a bonafide"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "scientific [music] laboratory. these"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "questions. This is where they're being"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "asked. So, here's what they did. They"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "took human DNA [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "and they placed it inside the vessel."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "And then they measured the DNA [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "again to see what would happen. And they"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "measured the photons again [music] to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "see what would happen. And the results"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "of this experiment changed the way we"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "have been conditioned to think about"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "[music] ourselves in the world. Because"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the photons went from being completely"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "random when they were first measured and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "in the presence of the human DNA. The"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "photons [music] are no longer random."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "They are ordered. They followed"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "precisely the geometry of the DNA. The"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "DNA was having a direct effect on the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "photons. The stuff we're made of is"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "having a direct effect on the stuff our"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "world is made of. Just like some of our"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "most ancient and cherished [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "indigenous and spiritual traditions have"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "always told us that we are connected to"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "the world. So this is the first"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "experiment. Human DNA has [music] a"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "measurable effect on the stuff our world"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "is made of. Now I want you to see I want"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "you to see the way the scientists"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "responded this. So [music] I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "read this to you directly. In the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "journal nanobiology and this published"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "in 1995,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the way the scientists described this,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they said that the photons were"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "described as behaving and this is a"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "quote surprisingly and"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "counterintuitively. [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Counterintuitively. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "counterintuitive because the scientific"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "thinking is that everything is separate"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "from everything [music] else and there"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "is no stuff to convey any effect from"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "the DNA to the matter. That's why it's"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "counterintuitive to the science. But the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "next piece is what I find particularly"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "interesting. I'm [music] going invite"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "you listen to the language. It says we"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "are forced to accept the possibility."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "They're saying that they are forced."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "They're not saying it looks like or it"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "appears or this is what we found."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "[music] They're saying we are forced to"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "accept the possibility that some new"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "field of energy is being excited by the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "DNA. Well, I think we know it's not a"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "new field. It's a field that's been"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "around a long time. It's simply that"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "[music] we are just now recognizing that"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "field and what it means to us. So, the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "summary of this second experiment is"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "that science now confirms that human DNA"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "influences the stuff our world is made"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "of through the photons by communicating"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "directly through the field. That's a big"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "piece. But now let me go to the second"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "experiment."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "This experiment was [music] published in"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the journal of scientific exploration in"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "1994."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "It begins"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "with human DNA once again. And this is a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "very precise kind of human DNA. It comes"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "from umbilical cords [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "of newborns because that DNA is what's"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "called very pristine DNA. It hasn't been"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "eroded over time as happens as we mature"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "in life. So it's a very pristine kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "DNA and the DNA is isolated in one"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "vessel and that is encased in another"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "vessel to make sure that there are no"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "other influences that are are are"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "happening from outside to influence the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "DNA. You've seen the evidence that tells"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "us it is more likely than not that we"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "are living in a simulated world, in a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "virtual universe. 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Because when we understand the"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "relationships, we demystify [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "the experience in the contemporary"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "language of science. We are now talking"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "about mystical [music] connections and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "we are marrying those connections with"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the best science of the modern world to"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "give us a new view, an evolutionary edge"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "to understand what's happening in our"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "world and beyond that how we may direct"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "the events of our lives and the events"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "of the world in a positive powerful way."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "Haven't when we leave our simulation we"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "shift our consciousness. we go back to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "where it is that we came from. And for"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "me, I I believe that and I think it's"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "really good news. It means that we will"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "see our friends and our loved ones again"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "on the other side, what is called the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "veil, on the other side of that veil."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "And I I hope that [music] there's a time"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "on that other side that we can look back"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "and review everything we've done in this"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "world and hopefully laugh about some of"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the mistakes that we've made that we've"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "made while we were trying to learn about"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "ourselves in this simulation. [music] So"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "heaven, heaven I believe is the ancient"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "word for the world that we live in that"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "exists on the other side outside of the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "simulation that we find ourselves in"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "right now. So the next question, what"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "does that mean for death? Where do we go"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "when we die?"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Welcome to Beyond Belief. I'm George"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Nory and our special guest is Dr. Joe"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Despensza. He is an international"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "lecturer, researcher, corporate"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "consultant, author, educator, and has"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "been invited to speak to more than 32"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "countries in various continents all"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "around this planet. As a lecturer and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "educator, he is driven by the conviction"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "that each of us has the potential for"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "greatness and unlimited abilities. His"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "latest book is called Becoming"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Supernatural. Dr. Joe Despenszo, welcome"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "to Beyond Belief. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "It's always good to see you."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Pleasure to be with you."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> I get so many great comments about you"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "when you're on Coast to Coast and things"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "that you do. Absolutely marvelous. How'd"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "you get started in all this?"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> Well, uh, in 1986, I got run over by a"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "truck in a triathlon."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Ouch."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> I broke six, uh, vertebrae in my spine"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "and, uh, I had bone fragments on my"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "spinal cord and the neural arch of one"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "of the vertebrae was broken like a"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "pretzel. So the typical procedure for"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "that is uh Harrington rod surgery which"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "is cutting off the back parts of your"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "vertebrae and screwing in these long"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "stainless steel rods."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> They slip them right up."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Yeah. And uh so I had four opinions from"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "four of the leading surgeons in Southern"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "California and I decided against the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "surgery and uh I thought well I'm not"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "going anywhere. I'm not doing anything"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "and maybe my mind could influence my"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "body. Of the four opinions, how many"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "told you to not do the sturgeon?"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> No. All four of them said Harrington rod"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "is Harrington rod surgery is the only"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "option otherwise you'll be paralyzed."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> All right. So you went against the total"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "grain there."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> So I went against convention and in 1986"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "that wasn't too common and uh it worked"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "and so I just made a deal with myself"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "that if uh if I was ever able to walk"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "again I'd spend the rest of my life uh"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "uh studying mind over matter and the"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "mind body connection. I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "that since 1986."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> You healed yourself."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> How do you feel now?"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> Um I never have pain in my back. Um I"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "I'm super active. Uh but I'm not wired"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "for pain either. And and and that got me"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "on the the the you know the the journey"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "to ask bigger questions like how did"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "that happen? I mean and I couldn't find"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "the answers in typical conventional uh"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "uh uh journals or uh or books. I had to"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "start studying the new sciences like"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "quantum physics and neuroscience and"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "neuroplasticity and epigenetics and"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "psychonuroimmunology and and all of"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "those sciences point the finger at"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "possibilities. So, and it has become the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "contemporary language of mysticism. And"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "when you combine those different"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "branches of sciences, you begin to"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "realize that uh people can begin to make"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "significant changes in their life and in"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "their health that we're not hardwired to"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "be a certain way for the rest of our"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "lives or we're not doomed by our genes."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "We're marvels of adaptability and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "change. And so, the next question is,"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "how do you do it? So, I started studying"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "people uh that had spontaneous"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "remissions. I thought if it happened to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "me uh could it happen to anybody else?"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "And so"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> I traveled to 17 different countries and"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "and interviewed hundreds and hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "people that were treating conventionally"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "uh or unconventionally. They were"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "staying the same health-wise or getting"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "worse and all of a sudden they got"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "better. And I just wanted to know what"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "the cause was that produced that effect."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "uh I wrote my first book called uh"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Evolve Your Brain: The Science of"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Changing Your Mind. And I talk about"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "what those principles are in terms of"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "how people can heal that the mind and"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "body are so so connected. 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I started"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "saying okay these are the four"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "principles. let's see if we can"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "demystify it and uh and gave people the"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "opportunity to begin to practice it. 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We can talk about"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "that, but there are significant changes"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "that were taking place that showed me it"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "wasn't just in their mind, it was in"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "their brain. And then we started"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "measuring people during the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "transformational process. What's going"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "on in their mind? Can we see uh changes"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "in real time? And we started gathering"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "more information about how to do it. 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The"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "moment you start talking religion or"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "culture or tradition, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "divide an audience because soon as"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "someone hears a word that that that"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "intimidates them, they're going to shut"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "off."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:41", "text": ">> They That's right. They tune in or tune"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> Right. And but science, you know, is"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "just a great way to create community. So"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "we've measured immune responses and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "we've seen that people can literally in"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "4 days begin to strengthen their immune"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "system by 50%. We've measured gene"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "expression. We now know that uh in 4 and"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "a half days that people can uh signal"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "the gene that reduces cancer and tumors"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "in people's bodies. The gene for"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "neurogenesis, the grow new neurons in in"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "response to novel experiences and"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "learning. Not just making new"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "connections, but growing new new"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "neurons. uh the gene for um stem cells"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "to become activated to go to damage"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "tissues and repair them"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> really is amazing. uh yeah I mean and um"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "uh um all kinds of significant changes"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "and and uh we've measured telomeir"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "lengths and we've seen that uh people"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "who do meditation for just uh 60 days uh"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "74% of those people lengthen their"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "telomeres and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> 74%"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> and telomeirs are the little sho strings"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "on the end of your DNA that tells you"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "your true biological age. 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That's what learning is."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> Absolutely. And the latest research"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "shows that just one hour of"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "concentration on one topic doubles the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "number of connections in certain areas"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "of your brain. So but if you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "review that information, you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "repeat it, you don't think about it,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "those circuits prune apart within hours"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "or days. So learning is"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> they fade away,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> right? 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And whenever you make your"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "brain work differently, you're changing"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "your mind because mind is the brain in"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "action. So if you keep reminding them of"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "what they're learning in time, they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "begin to install the neurological"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "hardware in their brain. I love it in"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "preparation for the experience. Now if"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "you set up the conditions in the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "environment and you give them the proper"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "instruction,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> a certain that's important. They have to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "get their behaviors to match their"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "intentions. Just like any skill, get"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "their actions equal to their thoughts."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Get their mind and body working"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "together. when they do they are going to"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "have a new experience and it's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "change them and experience enriches the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "circuits in their brain philosophically"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> and then all of a sudden the end product"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "of an experience is an emotion and the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "moment you feel more whole the moment"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "you feel more unlimited the moment you"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "feel more worthy the moment you feel"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "that emotion now you're teaching your"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "body chemically to understand what your"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "mind is intellectually understood so we"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "can say knowledge is for the mind but"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "experience is for the body in that they"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "work together."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> They're embodying the truth. Mind and"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "body are now working together. And the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "end product of that is we begin to"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "change our genetic expression. So here's"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "the point."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> If you've done it once, you should be"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "able to do it again. You would think."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> So as you begin to repeat the experience"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "over and over again, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "neurochemically condition your mind and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "body to begin to work as one. And when"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "you've done something so many times that"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "your body now knows how to do it as well"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "as your mind. Now it's innate in you."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "It's second nature. It's who you are."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "It's automatic. It's effortless. And now"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "you're beginning to master that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "philosophy. And it's who you are. You're"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "being it. Our job then is to go from"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "philosopher to initiate to master. From"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "knowledge to experience to wisdom, from"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "mind to body to soul, from thinking to"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "doing to being to learning it with your"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "head, applying it with your hands and"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "knowing it by heart and we have all the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "biological and neurological machinery to"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "do it."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> Let's go to one of your workshops, Joe."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": ">> Stepping into the practicum, right, and"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "the skill. And it's one thing to study"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "uh, you know, rodents in a changing"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "environment. It's another thing studying"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "people changing their internal states"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "and being able to sustain those internal"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "states. So that's the practicum that"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "leaves the philosophical behind. So if"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "you have philosophy or theory and you"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "initiate it, that initiation then should"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "lead to some type of mastery or skill."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "So, what happens internally when the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "energy hits the head? There's light."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "There's a very bright light. Um, you no"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "longer need your vision. Uh, but because"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "you're human, you're still trying to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "see. It's really hard to describe what"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "happens. There's a lot of light. You can"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "feel the currents. You can feel the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "blast. You can feel the movement, but"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "you can't really put a name to it."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": ">> They are having an inward experience"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "that's greater than their trauma, their"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "diagnosis, their fear. Whatever's"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "happening between their ears is more"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "real than anything that's happened in"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "their external environment. Their"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "sympathetic nervous system has switched"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "on. And instead of switching on like"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "being chased by a predator, it's taking"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "all that energy stored in the body and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "it's driving it up to the brain. And"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "when it goes on, all of a sudden, the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "brain goes into gamma and she's aroused"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "from the inner experience. But it's not"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "from a predator or from a danger. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "from the divine."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> What a great audience. Now, what was"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "going on there?"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> Well, um, when we started on this"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "journey and I I have a great research"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "team. Uh, you saw some of them there."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Uh, we never thought that we would be"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "recording what we're recording today."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "And in fact, there's a formula now that"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "we've figured out"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> and we could actually predict the moment"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "a person is going to go into a a"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "superconscious state."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:13", "text": ">> So we do certain different meditations"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "to begin to activate latent centers in"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "the brain. So let's say a person has a"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "betrayal or a trauma or a shock. Do you"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "know the stronger the emotion that you"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "feel from some situation in your life,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "the more altered you feel inside of you?"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> Of course,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> the more altered you feel inside of you,"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "the more you pay attention to the cause"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "and the brain freezes the image and"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "takes a snapshot and that's called a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "memory. So the stronger the emotion you"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "feel, the more long-term memories you"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "create. So now that's branded"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "neurologically in the brain and it's"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "emotionally conditioned in the body. So"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "people tend to think neurologically"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "within the circuits of those past"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "experiences and then they tend to feel"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "emotionally within the boundaries of"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "those chemical events"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> and how we think and how we feel George"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "is our state of being. So most people"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "are defined as an identity by their past"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "memories. So then the question is how do"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "you change that? because the strong"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "emotion could actually downregulate a"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "gene that can begin to signal a a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "disease."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": ">> So then when we begin to induce these"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "states where a person is going to have a"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "transcendental moment, there's this very"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "significant change that takes place in"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the brain. And all of a sudden now 95%"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "of who we are as a personality by the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "time we're 35 years old is a set of"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "memorized behaviors, emotional"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "reactions, unconscious attitudes and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "beliefs and perceptions that function"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "like a computer program. So most of the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "mind is stored in the body. So 5% of our"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "conscious mind is working against 95% of"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "what we've memorized subconsciously. So"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "what's an example of that? Well, an"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "example is you may not remember a phone"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "number. Remember, we we're old enough to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "know this. You pick up the phone, you"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "look at the receiver, and you dial the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "number, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> You couldn't remember it consciously,"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "but your body did it so many times that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "it knew how to do it as well as your"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "mind, right? So, that's who we are"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "subconsciously. So, the trauma is stored"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "in the body as well as in the brain. So"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "then when a person begins to activate"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "these latent systems, energy begins to"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "travel right up the spine and we can we"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "can actually predict the moment's going"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "to happen. We we actually say when"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "scientists come and study us, we'll say"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "uh she's going to pop. What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> And you you watch that happen."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> Oh, we can say and she's going to pop in"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "five minutes here. You watch. And all of"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "a sudden that energy that's stored in"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the body begins to move right up the"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "spine and it goes to a little gate at"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "the brain stem called the theamic gate."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "And that gate opens up and the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "sympathetic nervous system switches on."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "And now the body is driving energy up"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "into the brain. It hits the uh certain"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "areas of the brain and the brain goes"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "into what's called gamma brain wave"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "patterns. That is a superconscious"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "state. What's amazing, doctor, is you're"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "one of the few people, if not the only"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "one, who explains how this works. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "else is doing that."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> Well, you should sit in on some of our"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "brain science meetings because there is"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "cussing going on and arguing because you"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "can't find this in in textbooks. This is"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "this is supernatural, right?"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": ">> So, once that energy goes into the"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "brain, I'll give you an example."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "The brain switches on to such a degree"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "that those measurements you can't find"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "in any any neuroscience research. These"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "people are going into such coherence in"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "their brain. Now coherence is order. But"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "like uh most normal coherence in the"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "brain, picture a room of a thousand"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "people and everybody clapping at the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "same time. They're applauding at a at a"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "show. That's incoherence, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "noise. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": ">> I love that sound, by the way. If I'm on"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "stage. Yes, of course. Now, normal"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "coherence. Picture the room and every"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "fifth person in that room claps at the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "same time. That's kind of a brain that"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "has a normal amount of coherence."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> But when we were measuring this super"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "coherence, picture the entire thousand"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "people clapping at the same time to the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "same rhythm very quickly. That that"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "orderliness creates a lot of energy too"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "in the room. So, the brain goes into"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "these ecstatic states. That person is"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "having a full-on sensory experience"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "without their senses. Now imagine if"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "your senses were heightened by 25% right"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "now. Everything you're seeing,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "everything you're hearing, everything"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "you're smelling,"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> it's heightened by 25%."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": ">> Everything you're tasting, everything"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "you're feeling, if your if your senses"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "are heightened by 25%, so is your"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "awareness of everything around you."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> And that's huge."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": ">> And you can't have awareness without"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "consciousness. And you can't have"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "consciousness without energy. So all of"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "a sudden, the brain switches on. They go"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "into these high states of gamma. and the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "amount of energy in the brain. I'll give"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "you an example. Most people, if we're"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "measuring their vision, if we're"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "measuring their liver enzymes, if we're"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "measuring their height, if we took a"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "thousand people and we measured them,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "you would see this curve called a Zcurve"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "or bell curve. You draw a line right"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "down the middle and you divide it"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "equally in threes. That's three standard"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "deviations above normal, three standard"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "deviations below normal. That makes up"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "99.7%"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "of the population. Doesn't matter what"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "we measure."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:27", "text": ">> Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> It's just there."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": ">> Okay. So, our measurements in energy in"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the brain is 200 standard deviations"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "outside of normal. 300 standard"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "deviations outside of normal, 400"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "standard deviations outside normal. That"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "means you have to draw another 197"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "blocks. And that line just keeps getting"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "smaller and smaller. that that amount of"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "energy that person that inward event is"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "going to reorganize the circuitry in"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "their brain because that's what"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "experience does and it's going to"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "produce a profound feeling. Now that"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "feeling is not fear, it's not anger,"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "it's not hostility, it's not pain, it's"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "not sadness, it is bliss. So now the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "moment the person feels this elevated"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "emotion, their heart goes into super"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "coherence. They're feeling tremendous"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "love and the strong emotion is causing"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "them to pay attention to the pictures in"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "their mind and in an instant it's like"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "their past is washed away. So all of a"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "sudden we're seeing instantaneous"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "changes with health. A person's"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "uh um psoriasis goes away in an instant."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "A person's uh working with a spinal cord"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "injury is now walking without crutches."}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "People with Parkinson's disease, their"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "conditions are returning back to to to"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "normal because the level of energy"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "that's running through their nervous"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "system is giving them a biological"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "upgrade. And now we're seeing the same"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "patterns. We're seeing the same brain"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "scans. We're seeing the same changes in"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "health and the side effect of it is the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "person"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "is completely changed as an individual."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "They're saying, \"I feel so whole. I feel"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "so happy. I feel feel so free.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "and I think that is the natural state of"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "being"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": ">> from your workshop. There's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "experiences like this."}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> Imagine 750 people in the room. They're"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "overcoming themselves"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "and they start activating this center,"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "their center of oneness, their center of"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "wholeness. And as the heart starts"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "getting coherent and it starts creating"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "elevated emotions like gratitude, people"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "are feeling the emotions of their future"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "that begin to create holism and oneness."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "If the environment signals the gene and"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "the endroduct of an experience in the"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "environment is called an emotion. When"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "you embrace these elevated emotions, you"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "are literally selecting and instructing"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "new genes ahead of the environment. And"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "we are going to turn on new lights and"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "turn off old lights, signaling new genes"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "in new ways."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": ">> During meditation, my heart just opened"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "up. I was sobbing with joy and and I was"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "having these waves and waves and waves"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "of of love and gratitude."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> I can only describe it as like a bolt"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "like a lightning bolt of energy arrived"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "in my heart. I don't didn't come sort of"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "up through the center or down. It just"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "came out through my heart and up through"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "my head."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": ">> I was very conscious of the fact that I"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "should don't see expect to see anything."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "And then all of a sudden, out of"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "nowhere, I started feeling this weird,"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "strange shaking all over my body. But it"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "was getting stronger and getting"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "stronger."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": ">> And there are tears of joy rolling down"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "their face. They are being baptized by"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "the divine. And when that occurs, they"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "feel so whole and so in love with life"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "and so in love with themselves, it's"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "impossible to want."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "How can you want when you feel whole?"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "You feel like you have everything. And"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "that's the moment the magic happens over"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "and over again. And there is a"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "biological, neurological, genetic"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "upgrade in that person. And when that"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "occurs, you will feel so connected and"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "so whole. You no longer experience"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "separation."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Imagine heart is in super coherence."}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "When that heart starts to beat in rhythm"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "and they're sustaining it, all of a"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "sudden that field starts to expand. That"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "energy starts to become very coherent"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "like dropping a pebble in water after"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "pebble after pebble and it's creating"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "this wave."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> Joe, why is it so emotional for people?"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "My god, they were breaking down crying."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": ">> Yeah, I know it probably scares a lot of"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "people, but uh they're not in any type"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "of pain."}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": ">> No, it looks like it's glee."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": ">> Yeah. So, uh, God, we spend so much of"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "our lives, George, uh, 70% of the time,"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "according to the research, living in"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "survival, living in stress. And living"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "in stress and living in survival is when"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "your brain and body are out of balance."}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "And when you're in survival, you're"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "always anticipating the worst thing to"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "happen in your life. So, most people"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "live by the emotions of fear or anger or"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "hostility or aggression or competition"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "or envy or jealousy. and they don't know"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "how to open their heart because in"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "survival,"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "it's not a time to open your heart. If"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "you're being chased by a predator, it's"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "not a time to learn. It's not a time to"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "sit still. It's not a time to go within."}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "The survival gene is switched on. You"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "have three choices. You run, you hide,"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "or you fight. People then close down"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "their heart because they don't want to"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "be vulnerable. So, we teach them, we"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "work, we partner with the HeartMath"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "Institute, and we teach them how to"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "self-regulate. We teach them how to"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "activate the center and how to begin to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "trade guilt or sadness or pain for"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "gratitude and and worthiness and a love"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "for life and a joy for existence. And"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "just like anything else, if you start"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "practicing and you're knocking on the"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "door, once that center begins to open up"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "and your heart begins to change, it's an"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "amazing phenomenon. The the heart begins"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "to release a chemical called oxytocin."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> Oxytocin feel good."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": ">> It's the love chemical."}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": ">> Now, we've measured oxytocin in our"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "students. In 4 days, some of them have"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "200 times the amount of oxytocin. Wow."}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": ">> Now,"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "oxytocin, according to the research,"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "once it's in the circulatory system,"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "rushes right into the amygdala. The"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "amydala is the survival center in the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "brain."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": ">> That's a reptilian brain, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "that it's that little little almond"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "shaped part of the brain that's always"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "scanning the environment to determine"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "danger. And so there's four different"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "emotions that the amigdula is wired for."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Aggression"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "and anger,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:03", "text": ">> fear and anxiety, pain and suffering,"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "and joy and love. So the moment oxytocin"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "is released into the circulatory system,"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "it shuts the lights out for anger and"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "aggression. It cools the circuits off"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "for fear and anxiety and it lowers the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "volume to pain and suffering. And the"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "only emotion the person can feel is a"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "true love for life. In fact, the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "research shows that when oxytocin levels"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "are elevated just slightly, it's"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "impossible to hold a grudge. In other"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "words, why would you want to trade this"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "feeling"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "for anyone or anything? You would say,"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "\"I I I feel so great that I won't judge"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "or I won't I don't want to lose this"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "feeling.\" So when oxytocin is released,"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "it signals a chemical called nitric"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "oxide."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": ">> Nitric oxide signals a chemical called"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "endothelial derived relaxing factor. Now"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "that's just a big word that just means"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "it causes the arteries in your heart in"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "your brain just to open up. So you're"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "getting more energy and more more blood"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "flow. And your heart is literally"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "feeling full. And with that comes an"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "energy or an emotion. So you feel so"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "grateful. You feel so blessed. You feel"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "so whole that you can't want anything."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "You feel like you have everything. You"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "feel blessed. Now, I call that the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "natural state of being. So, most people"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "don't want to take the time to get"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "beyond their fear. Why not? Because"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "because the some people well mo many"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "people they get caught in these loops."}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "They have those events in their life"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "that cause the strong emotions. Let's"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "say it's fear or let's say it's failure"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": ">> or failure. something goes wrong."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": ">> Yeah. So if you feel like a failure,"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": ">> you're going to be one."}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> You're going to think you are a failure,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "right? So if you can't think greater"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "than how you feel"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": ">> or feelings become the means of"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "thinking, then you're thinking in the"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "past."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> So people get caught in these loops."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "They think certain thoughts. Those"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "thoughts make certain chemicals. They"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "feel like a failure. The moment the"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "brain checks in with the body and says,"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "\"Yeah, you're feeling pretty much like a"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "failure.\" You'll generate more thoughts"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "equal to how you're feeling. So the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "thinking and feeling and feeling and"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "thinking creates a state of being. So"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "then when people get caught in these"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "loops, what happens is they get happy"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "being unhappy because the hardest part"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "about change is not making the same"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "choice as you did the day before. Right?"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": ">> So then the moment you say I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "give up my guilt, that means you're"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "going to leave everything familiar and"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "known in your life and you're going to"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "step into the unknown and it's going to"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "be uncomfortable. It's going to be"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "unfamiliar. there's going to be some"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "uncertainty. You're not going to be able"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "to predict the next moment because"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "you're no longer in the known. You're in"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "the unknown. So, people, they feel that"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "uncomfortableness. They can't predict or"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "know what's going to happen. They're in"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "this void. And the body, which has been"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "conditioned to be the mind, says, \"Uh,"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "huh, you've been feeling this way for"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "the last 25 years.\" And so, the body"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "starts sending signals back to the brain"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "to influence our thoughts. Well, if we"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "respond to those thoughts as if they're"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "true, those same thoughts lead to the"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "same choices. The same choices lead to"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "the same behaviors. The same behaviors"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "create the same experiences. And the"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "same experiences produce that same"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "feeling or an emotion. A person says,"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "\"This feels right.\" No, no, no. That"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "feels familiar."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": ">> Going from the old self to the new self"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "is a neurological, biological, chemical,"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "hormonal death of the old self. And most"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "people don't know how to change their"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "internal states without relying on"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "something outside of them. They'd rather"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "take the pill, the drug, the drink."}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "They'd rather go shopping, gambling,"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "whatever. They'd rather distract them"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "from the true essence of how to change"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "cuz most people don't understand that"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "they have the ability to change. So when"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "people start to connect, when that heart"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "starts to become more coherent and it"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "starts to beat more orderly, the energy"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "is moving into their body and they feel"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "lifted. And if it opens up all the way,"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "we've seen this thousands of times, the"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "heart will all of a sudden be filled and"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "that energy will continue right to the"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "brain and then there'll be an ecstasy."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": ">> Are these permanent changes for people?"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "Well, we've seen uh God, we've seen so"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "many permanent changes when this"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "particular um experience happens. We've"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "seen wow, we've seen people that were"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "blind from birth uh see again. We've had"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "plenty of people that have lost their"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "hearing get their hearing back. We've"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "seen tumors disappear in one week. We've"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "seen people with uh crutches uh come"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "with all kinds of uh ataxias and spinal"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "cord injuries leave an event without any"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "uh uh uh uh assistance. And so we're"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "seeing all kinds of crazy things and and"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "it's like a biological upgrade."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:49", "text": ">> It's it's huge. So I have to tell you"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "that I'm probably more shocked than"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "anybody. Number one,"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": ">> you didn't expect it to work this way. I"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "didn't expect that I would see this in"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "my lifetime. And you know, it's like a"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "4-minute mile. You know, once the"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "4-minute mile was broken, George, I"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "mean, everybody broke it after. It was a"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "change in consciousness. So, we're"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "seeing like we've pierced this veil and"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "people are no longer saying it's"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "impossible for me to heal. In fact, if"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "we get somebody on the stage like you"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "saw and they tell their story of how"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "they've overcome stage 4 cancer and they"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "don't look like a movie star and they"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "don't look young and buffed and dressed"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "perfectly, they look like a normal"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "person"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": ">> and it's the real deal."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> It's the real deal. And you're listening"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "that it wasn't pretty that they lost a"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "lot of things. They lost their job. They"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "went bankrupt and they were they were at"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "the bottom of the barrel and they turned"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "that battleship around. You're going to"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "have to scratch your head. And we put up"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "the brain scans and we put up the all"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "the measurements to show that's"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "possible. You're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "scratch your head and think, well, if"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "that person can do it, so can I. So,"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "just like a an infection spreads amongst"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "the community and creates disease. You"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "get a group of people together. I"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "believe that health and wellness can be"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "as infectious as disease. Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "And all of a sudden there's a moment you"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "know in our workshops you know I now"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "know that when you get a group of people"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "together the first day is about"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "overcoming yourself and I can tell you"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "after looking at all those brain scans"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "you and I are at our absolute best when"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "we get beyond ourselves and the process"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "of getting beyond self getting beyond"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "and disentangling from those programs"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "and those emotions. It's it creates a"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "lot of disturbance biologically and"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "energetically. And so most people when"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "they come up to this process of change"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "and there's all this chaos, they quit."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:35", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:36", "text": ">> They say, \"I I I just can't do it. It's"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "too much.\" But if they're with a group"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "of people and I'm pushing them and they"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "get numerous opportunities to connect,"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "all that disorder,"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "all that chaos is just unpredictable"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "order. There's going to come a moment"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "after that first day where it's going to"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "start to organize. And when it does,"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "it's like lights going on. All of a"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "sudden, everybody starts in training."}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "Everybody starts resonating. And all of"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "a sudden, now we start creating the"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "miraculous and we start seeing it over"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "and over again. And all of a sudden, by"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "the end of the event,"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": ">> people are doing really uncommon"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "supernatural things. And and I believe"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "that that's our birthright. I believe"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "that's who we are when we're not when"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "we're not caught up in our in our"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "program."}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:25", "text": ">> Who is Anuk? Anuk is uh a woman uh that"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "I met about 10 years ago uh whose"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "husband uh went to the tallest building"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "in Roderdam and jumped off the top of"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "the building and committed suicide."}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:35", "text": ">> And uh"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:37", "text": ">> she never saw that coming."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": ">> She never saw it coming. He just left on"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "a Sunday morning and never said goodbye"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "to her. Never just said a quick goodbye"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "to the kid. She was in the shower. He"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "was a successful attorney and he just"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "took his life and the event uh threw her"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "into a very strong tail spin. Now that"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "makes sense because an event like that"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "is going to change your internal state,"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": ">> Forever."}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": ">> Forever. Well, almost forever. And then"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "you're going to remember the event where"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "the where the police officers show up"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "and deliver the news. And the problem is"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "is that the shock or the trauma like"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "that causes you to continuously remember"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "the event."}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": ">> Oh my god. And it's painful."}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> You start producing the same chemistry"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "in your brain and body"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": ">> as if the event was"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:29", "text": ">> Let's take a quick look at Anuk from"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "supernatural. I made a decision to start"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "meditating daily and I started the work"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "first on my own and then I started"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "talking with people about it and they"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "were supporting me. I would start"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "meditating in the evening around 9:30"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "and then I would sit with it till I"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "really felt I'm whole. I'm having more"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "energy. I'm joyful. I'm happy person. I"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "can do this. it will work. All these"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "changes that I had to tell myself if not"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "the chemo then why not try to heal"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "myself."}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": ">> Joe, that doesn't look like a woman"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "whose husband jumped off a building."}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": ">> I tell you what, I mean that woman, it"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "took her a couple years to change. But"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "after her after that whole event, she"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "wound up in the hospital, was paralyzed"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "in both legs with a very serious"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "neuropathy. God."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:28", "text": ">> Then she developed these esophageal and"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "um and mucous membranes uh um uh"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "ulcerations in her mouth, her throat,"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "her esophagus."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> Yeah. She had uh then she developed"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "cancer and the doctors told her that uh"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "she you know she had a certain amount of"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "time to live and uh she came to an event"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "and she's a psychotherapist a very"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "brilliant psychotherapist and it all"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "made sense to her. have no doubts at all"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "at this point that this works."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> I you know I think I I do have doubts"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "and I think I have healthy doubts. You"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "know I don't know that we can live"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "forever. Uh although we have the gene"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "for immortality. Uh I I don't know. I"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "think we're I think it's healthy George"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "to take a methodical approach. In other"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "words, you heal yourself and then you're"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "you heal you ask can I heal somebody"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "else? Then you witness somebody else be"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "healed. Then the next question is, can I"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "heal somebody on the other side of the"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "planet? Well, consciousness is"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "non-local. What piece of knowledge or"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "information can I integrate into my next"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "experience? So, I think it's an"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "evolution. It's un it's it's unrealistic"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "to say you're going to be an astronaut"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "or go to the moon without the training."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "Right? So, I'm very careful"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:42", "text": ">> about a very methodical."}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> You have to be ready"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": ">> and and step by step, right? You got to"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "go methodically, step by step. So, I've"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "been super patient uh in this process"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "and getting people to certain levels"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "without going too fast because the"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "moment you do that, it's going to shut"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "certain people down or it's going to"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "discourage them. So, I do my best to"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "move a community of people all at once"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "behind."}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> You know, I wanted to be a national"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "broadcaster all my life since I was 19"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "years old. It never would have happened"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "if I didn't prepare myself for it."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:15", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": ">> I had a goal. I had a direction that was"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "all fine, but you really have to be"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "ready for it when the time comes, don't"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": ">> Absolutely. And and and it's life is the"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "stage. And taking a little time every"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "day and closing your eyes and"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "disconnecting from your environment,"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "sitting your body down and making it be"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "in one place without eating or smelling"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "or tasting or feeling or seeing and not"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "being on a schedule to rush to any event"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "in your future or think about your past."}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": ">> That is the meditative process. And just"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "like a actor rehearsing"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "her role or his role, who do you want to"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "be when you open your eyes and just get"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "into that state and then maintain that"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "modified state of mind and body your"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "entire day? And if you can, you're going"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "to see those synchronicities and those"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "serendipities and those opportunities"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "and those coincidences happening around"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "you. And now you don't have to go"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "anywhere to get it. It's kind of coming"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "to you. And I think that's right there."}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "And before you heal the body, you heal"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "the mind, don't you? You you cannot have"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "a healing without a spiritual healing."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "It just is impossible."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:16", "text": ">> Joe, thanks for being on Beyond Belief."}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:17", "text": ">> You're welcome."}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:18", "text": ">> You're one of a kind, my friend."}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:19", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:20", "text": ">> How many people have you helped in your"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "career?"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": ">> Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "I I have no idea. I have I actually have"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "no idea."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> Whether it's one or a million, that's"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "all that matters."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": ">> Yeah. I I listen I sleep well at night"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "because I I now know that uh that uh"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "we're helping people and that's what"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "matters to me. That's what matters all"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "the time, helping people. And that's"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "what he does. I'm George Nory. Thanks"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "for watching Beyond Belief."}]

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So team, I couldn't do it"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "without you and team"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "planet Earth audience, I couldn't do it"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "without you. 2026"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "I think is going to be a big year for"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "all of us. I am an optimist certainly"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and I'm a realist. Realistically, the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "challenges that we have just lived"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "through, they haven't ended. I think"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "we're going to continue those"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "challenges. What makes me so optimistic"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "is that in many instances the challenges"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "in the world are pushing us to remember"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "who we are. And that's really what this"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "this content is all about. The book pure"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "human, it is a celebration of an aspect"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "of our humanness that science is"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "struggling with right now. There's a"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "spark that lives within each of us that"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "cannot be measured at this time through"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "technology and instruments. Yet, it is"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "the spark that sets us apart from all"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "other forms of life. And the experiments"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "are now indicating that that spark"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "exists. It's our connection to a part of"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "ourselves that doesn't live inside the"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "human body. And that's why when we begin"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "to replace the human body with the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "synthetics and the AI, we lose something"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "that is so precious. We lose our very"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "humanness. And we're losing it before we"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "even fully know what it means to be"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "human. So, in the year to come, you're"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "going to see me continue to create the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "content that reminds us of the deep"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "truth of who we are, what our potential"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "is in this world, and our ability to"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "navigate the world in a healthy way into"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the new world that's emerging. In the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "traditions of the ancients and the"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "forgotten peoples, those who have come"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "before us, there's always been a belief"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "that each time the breath of a human"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "passes through an instrument of the"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "earth, in that moment, we reenact the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "most holy, the most sacred act. It's the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "union between spirit and matter, between"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "heaven and earth. The peanut butter has"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "a very interesting effect on the cells"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and the DNA when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "multi-dimensional explorations"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "because the peanut butter is in"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "resonance with the earth under our feet."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "But it can find resonance in the field"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "as well, making us okay, I can do that."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Making us the the the link between those"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "two that peanut butter is a very"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "powerful catalyst. So, I think you're on"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "the right track."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> I think so, too. And just one last"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "question if I may, and that is to once"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "and for all clear up,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> creamy or crunchy?"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> You know, when it comes to my hair, I"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "use the creamy. Uh the crunchy tends to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "show up under the camera lights. So, I"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "use just pure creamy. Run it through"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "first thing in the morning and I'm good"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "for the day."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "No, the old world is unsustainable."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "People keep saying, \"I can't wait to go"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "back to the way things used to be. I"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "can't wait till things get back to"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "normal. The world that they are"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "envisioning no longer exists.\" We cannot"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "go back to a world that no longer"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "exists. We're here now and we can only"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "move forward. We're in a process and it"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "is a process based upon cycles, natural"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "cycles of cosmology, of astronomy,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "cycles uh geologic cycles, climate"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "cycles, cycles of social uh social"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "potential, cycles of engineering, cycles"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "of human conflict that happen every 17.5"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "and 56 years. All of these cycles and"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "more, they're converging right now in"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "this little window of time in our lives."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "And that little window is our precious"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "opportunity to turn the tide, to"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "navigate this world into the beautiful,"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "healthy world that we know is possible"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "in our hearts and that we've seen in our"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "minds. And it begins with us remembering"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "who we are and allowing that spark of"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "divinity from within us to be expressed"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "in the way we use the technology in the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "world outside of our bodies. That's what"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "2026 is going to be about for all of us."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "I've been asked what it is that gives me"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the strength, what it is that encourages"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "me, where do I get my op optimism from?"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "And there are many answers to that, many"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "sources. But I think one of the primary"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "things that lights me up uh every day,"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "you've heard me speak about this, 1945"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "in the deserts of Egypt near a village"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "of Nag Hamadi, a cache of documents were"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "found that were believed to have been"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "destroyed in the 3rd and fourth"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "centuries by the early church because"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "those documents revealed the deep truth"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "of what it means to be human in a way"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "that empowered us as individuals and"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "meant that We didn't need the power"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "structures around us at least to the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "degree that that they wanted to think"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "so. Those documents became known as the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Nag Hamadi library. The oldest unedited"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "records of the New Testament, the oldest"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "unedited records of the Gnostic texts"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "that were forbidden and destroyed. And"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "it is the second most dangerous of those"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "texts that is called the Gospel of"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Thomas. It's a very unusual document."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "114 sayings attributed to Yeshua, uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "later translated into the name of Jesus"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "that were written by a scribe, describe"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Thomas. And saying number 70"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "encapsulates everything I'm saying to"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "you right now. It's it's what lights me"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "up in the morning. It says that if you"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "bring forth what is within you, what you"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "bring forth will save you. If you do not"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "bring forth what is within you, what you"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "do not bring forth will destroy you."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "There's a spark that lives within each"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "of us. It lives within you. It's already"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "there. You don't have to attain it by"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "going to workshops and creating all"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "kinds of mystical components outside of"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "your body. That spark has always been"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "with you. And through the ages, there"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "have been efforts to repress and deny"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "that spark. Our job is to peel back the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "layers that have denied our divinity."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Because when you take away the"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "programming and you take away the lies,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "all that's left is what's true. All"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "that's left is your humanness, all"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "that's left is your divinity. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "to invite you to think about that as we"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "go into this new year. No matter how"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "difficult those challenges that life"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "brings to your doorstep, no matter how"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "difficult they may look, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "invite you to remember if you bring"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "forth what is already within you, that"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "divine spark, that is where you will"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "find the remedy. That's where you find"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "the healing expressions of your divinity"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "or imagination, creativity, empathy,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "sympathy, compassion, forgiveness, love,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "healing. Those are all expressions of"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "this divine spark. So, in the year to"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "come, I'm going to invite you to love"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "without fear. Love without fear. Even if"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "you've been hurt in the past, forgive"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "because it's the thing to do. Forgive"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "even if no one sees you doing the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "forgiving, even if it's not"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "acknowledged."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Don't be afraid to have empathy for our"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "brothers and sisters. So many of us have"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "almost become desensitized by the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "magnitude of the suffering and the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "atrocities in the world. And I'm in"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "there with you. And I have to work to"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "awaken my sense of empathy and sympathy"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "for my brothers and sisters because that"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "is the spark of our humanness shining"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "through. Don't be afraid to imagine."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "imagine"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "and create in ways that are innovative"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "because AI cannot imagine the way that"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "humans can. We have the ability to see"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "and envision things that are not"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "possible through machine intelligence."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "So, I'm going to invite you to imagine"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "and create uh innovate, share your ideas"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "with one another, communicate. This is"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "where our humanness where our spark"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "shines through and allows our humanness"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "to thrive. And in this way, we"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "demonstrate the answer to the question"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "that we are all asking ourselves. In"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "closing, that question is simply this."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "It's all about love. Do we love"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "ourselves enough to accept the gift of"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "our humanness? Do we love ourselves"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "enough to accept the gift of our"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "divinity and those divine expressions of"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "divinity in our lives? That's not a"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "question you can answer with words. We"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "answer that question through choices we"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "make in the way we live our lives each"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "and every day. So, I'm going to close."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "I'm going to say happiest of holidays to"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "you. And I want to thank you for all"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "that you're doing to live the best"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "version of yourself in all the ways that"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "I've just shared and more so that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "together we create the best world"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "possible. Thank you for the the year"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "that's been, all your love and support."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "I look forward to seeing you in the new"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "year in 2026."}]

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They knew about it because,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "frankly, the ET showed up. the the"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "civilizations out there see humans as"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "having an enormous potential for good"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "but earth destroying potential and also"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "interplanetary"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "threat."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> The ETSs have made they made that offer"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "to Eisenhower and he got over he got"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "overruled. Did they?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Truman was offered similarly."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Oh, was he? Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Yeah. And he was very dismissive. Oh, no"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> Yeah, because you know the atomic bomb,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "you know, that was his baby. It was"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "dropped under his watch, the first one,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "first two."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> And uh they were asking for all those"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "sort of things, you know, that we make"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "peace, get rid of these things. And let"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "me quickly say part of the reason for"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "that is that they knew it could destroy"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the whole planet and all the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "radiological"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "stuff damages the the the genetic"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "material all life on Earth frankly"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "mutates it. It's why we have so many I"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "think a big reason why we have such"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "accelerated cancer rates globally um per"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "thousand people that it just keeps going"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "up. But they also knew that when you"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "detonate those things, the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "electromagnetic pulse, absolutely"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "there's a component within that pulse"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "that's the scalar which is a you know"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "electromagnetic wave is like this at the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "speed of light 186,000 m per second."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Scalar is a point called longitudinal"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "goes out at multiples of the speed of"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "light through the ether vacuum whatever"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "you want to call it but it will"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "therefore disrupt the electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "communications and transport systems"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that are extraterrestrial in origin. So"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "an inadvertent unknown consequence of"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "these electromagnetic pulse detonations"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "of of the 40s and 50s was that it was"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "incredibly disruptive"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "to extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "civilizations travel what have you not"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "just around the earth but at great"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "distance because you're not talking"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "about traveling at the speed of light"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "right the speed of light if it's the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "galaxy of Andromeda it's 2 2 and a2"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "million years for the light to get from"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Earth to there cuz it's 2 and a half"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "million light years away. But scalar now"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "we're talking about a different thing."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Now we're talking about the physics of"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "non-locality"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "where every point in space and time is"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "interconnected. You're operating at that"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "non-locality of physics where it's all"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "entangled. What's called the entangled"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "universe."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "When you start playing around with"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "technologies at that level, now you can"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "disrupt unknowingly initially, systems"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "that are thousands of light years away."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> So this is like the speed of thought."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> It's between the speed of thought and"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "the speed of light. All right?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> So there's a there's a scale here. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "consciousness is omnipresent, thoughts"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "instantaneous."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "3D anywhere these are would not be"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "instantaneous but they're not limited to"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "the speed of light something in between"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "but enough that it basically collapses"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "the time frames to to instantaneous at"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "at reasonable distances out in space and"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "I mean interstellar distances so that"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "wasn't known by keep in mind Oenheimer"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "uh Edward Teller uh Verervine All these"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "people didn't know this when they were"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "working on the atomic bomb. They knew"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "about it"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "uh because frankly the ET showed up"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "because when that happened, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "it's the equivalent of a big red flag"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "going over a planet saying, \"Wo, this"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "planet's not only a danger to itself and"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "could destroy itself, but now they're a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "danger to innocent planets out there in"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "space.\" So that is the inflection point."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "That is your uh tipping point where a"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "civilization like ours"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "crosses that Rubicon, you know, we go"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "over into that area and we're still"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "acting like a bunch of murderous"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "monkeys, you know. Right. Right. But now"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "we're not with hitting people with clubs"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "in the over their head or even a rifle"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "or what or conventional bomb. You're"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "dealing with technologies that are"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "disruptive to the fabric of the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "universe. So that is why there was this"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "huge"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "number of sightings and still are around"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "our nuclear facilities, missile"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "facilities, civilian and military atomic"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "uh that began in the 40s,50s,60s."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> Okay?"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> Right? If you if you look at the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "testimony of Colonel Dedrickson,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Colonel Dedricson gave us a very"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "detailed account of this and he was in"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "charge of all nuclear facilities for the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Air Force in the continental United"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "States and he's one of our disclosure"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "witnesses. He's in the book. Of course,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "nobody reads, but I think reading's not"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "allowed anymore. As laws I think laws"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "will be in passed, it's against the law"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "to do math and read anyway. I know. I I"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "I I'm half joking, just half. But um but"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "that's what happened. And so that part"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "of the history is very current because"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "the reason there's still a huge problem"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "on this subject is"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the the civilizations out there see"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "humans as having an enormous potential"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "for good but earth destroying potential"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "and also interplanetary"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "threat. We're a threat, not the ETSs."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Right? If the ETSs were a threat, news"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "flash to all you paranoic nut jobs out"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "there think they're coming to eat us for"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "lunch. They would they would hit a"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "button and in a fraction of a nancond"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the Earth would be dissociated all its"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "atoms into a mist out in space."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "Literally, I'm not joking. So, they're"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "obviously not hostile. The level of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "technology they have, we'd be done."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "However,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "key thing I've said for 30 years,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "these civilizations are very unhappy"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "with human hostility blended with these"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "types of weapons that actually are a"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "threat to life on Earth, which very well"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "may be a long-term project of some of"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "these civilizations in terms of"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "assisting here, but also is a threat to"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "their own planets. So, I think that that"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "is the crux of the issue. You know, I've"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "always said the solution is"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "universal peace, not world peace. And we"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "got to get there. I mean, the League of"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Nations fell apart in 1917 or around"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "that time. I I think that what we're"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "looking at is, you know, a hundred"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "years. I call it the lost century for a"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "reason. A hundred years of lost"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "technology, but also lost social and"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "conscious evolution due to this uh issue"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "and the secrecy that's been imposed. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "and you know, it's not going to change"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "by doing the same thing over and over,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "right? That's insanity. this going to"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "change because people finally realize"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "what the stakes are and courageous men"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "and women uh step up to the plate"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> and try to fix this. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> right. Yeah. I I when I hear people talk"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "about, oh, they're the ETSs are here and"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "they're here to take this. I I really"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "think there's probably nothing on this"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "earth that they covet actually."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> Oh, there's nothing. Yeah. But but"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "except except"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> the beauty of the earth and biosphere"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "and humanity itself, right? beautiful"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> that that they do want to preserve, but"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "they see us destroying it. Pel racing"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "into the future. Pelmemell destroying"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "the environment, endless wars, radiation"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "everywhere, on and on and on. And you"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "know, look, they're not going to they're"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "simply never going to just land and"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "force us to grow up and evolve,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> That's not how civilizations evolve."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> That's a question. Common question."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Very common. is your I call it cosmic"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "codependency."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Everybody want it's cosmic codependency"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "because they want people to either they"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "want these ETs to be either the devil or"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "their savior."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "They're neither. They're neither. Uh now"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "if things were to get really bad here,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "my understanding there would be a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "massive extraterrestrial intervention,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "but we're talking extinction level"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "event, billions of people dead, etc."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "uh is it's not going to happen just"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "because UFO people want it to happen. Um"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "moreover, how could they do that? Um"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "they would have to stand down so many"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "systems. I mean the the planet is an"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "armed camp right now. In fact, I was"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "with one of our uh top secret guys who"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "works very high up in in this issue"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "covertly currently and uh we were"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "talking about u you know these the use"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "of these EMP scalar"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "weapons. He says, \"Oh yeah, we have"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "portable ones.\" He says, \"I can go to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the dumpster here at my corporate uh"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "facility and pull them out of the"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "dumpster and put them on a on a jeep and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "go out someplace and boom, hit.\" In"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "fact, he said, \"I was over in Bosnia and"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "saw these being used back in the 90s,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "right?\" So, covertly, uh, where you"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "could just target a whole, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "tank division or or whatever, all the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "electromagnetic components of these"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "engines on trucks and cars and planes"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "and helicopters would stop and there is"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "like shooting fish in a barrel. He was"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "part of that operation. So, that is the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "problem. It's like, you know, it's not"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "like they're going to be able to come in"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "3D land and say, \"Hey, how y'all doing?"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Let's have a latte or whatever.\" I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "let's get real. There's no place on the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Earth from space and land and sea that"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "isn't monitored by these covert"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "government programs and and"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "transgovernment illegal programs that"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and they have these technologies. So the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "only way they could even intervene the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "way people fantasize would be to shut"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "all that down."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": ">> Guess what? If they do that, the spin"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "misters in the media, they're the the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "the shills in the media that work for"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "these big corporate and transnational"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "interests are going to say, \"Hey, we're"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "being invaded by aliens now. We need"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "World War II.\""}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "It's a it's a trick. So the intervention"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "people think they should do if they did"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "it would result in in in a staged World"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "War II scenario that's interplanetary,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": ">> right? Is that"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> we're this is a real a real catch 22,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "right? So this is why we humans and our"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "leaders have to act and why everyone"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "listening needs to be writing to your"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "president, your members of Congress and"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "if you're in another country, your"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "members of parliament or whatever you"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "have um and saying look this needs to be"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "dealt with by our wise elders and people"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "who have the best interest of humanity"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "in in in mind not the best interest of"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "their greed and profits and control."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Right. But that that hasn't happened in"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "70 years."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> Well, that's another question that"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> maybe it will."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> We talk we talk about how they you know"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Okay, so it was Truman that they"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "actually um spoke with. Did they"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> No. And Eisenhower that both Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "and Truman did."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> Did they offer this to other by any"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "chance? Did they offer this to other"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "governments on this planet?"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> That's a good question. Um, my"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": ">> remember the day the earth stood still?"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "I mean, they wouldn't they wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "offer it just to one. They had to be to"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "everybody. And I always wondered, did"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "they offer this to other governments?"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "And and if they did, do we have any"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "information on what they said?"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> I've only heard indirect rumors. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "know the operations the ETSs have done"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "to contain the worst of these nuclear"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "accidents have been global. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "remember our 20th anniversary of the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Disclosure Project event that happened"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "in in 2021?"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "We had a a a Soviet former Soviet"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "general"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> testifying to the fact that there was a"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "nuclear warhead overheating that they"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "weren't aware of and the ETSs came in"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "and stabilized it because if it had"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "detonated, it could have triggered an a"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "cascade leading to World War II, right?"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> Uh and what have you. So we do know they"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "have intervened. As to whether or not"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "other leaders from other countries have"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "had similar events happen, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Remember"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "at the end of World War II, Europe was"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "in ruins."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Uh the Soviet Union was also in in ruins"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "economically and otherwise. The United"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "States was intact. And we were the both"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "financial by then and technological"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "behemoth"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "uh that emerged out of the ashes of"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "World War II. So and I think that's why"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "you know we had the first atomic bomb"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "and then the hydrogen bomb etc and so"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "on. Um, now the Soviets had Sputnik, but"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "then we made up for it in space with the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Apollo and the Mercury and Apollo and"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "other but this whole area of technology."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "I think that the ET saw the United"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "States as the prime movers. Certainly"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "China wasn't involved with that and all"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "of Europe was in ruins and the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Union was very much damaged because they"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "were really damaged by World War II"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "directly unlike you know we didn't have"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "the sort of issues in in continental"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "United States"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:32", "text": ">> from World War II. So I think the ETSs"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "it was a logical if I were putting on my"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "ET hat it would be a logical that that's"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "where the action is that's you got to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "reach out to."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> It's rational."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> This is a fascinating history here."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Really truly."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Someday we need to do the whole un"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "currently really not known history from"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> unvarnished truth."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": ">> The unvarnished truth. But a lot of it"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "comes from me meeting with and acquiring"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "information from over a thousand"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "people over the last 34"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "years that I've been doing this. Uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "68, literally half of my lifespan. Um"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "and you know, you you meet enough people"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "that connect dots"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "and I feel like our job with the"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "disclosure project intelligence archive."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "And here's some breaking news. We're"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "hoping in the next month or so that will"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "be that the the website and the uh"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "archive will be at its uh beta test"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "stage and we're going to let everyone"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "have access after we see that it works."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Um and and we're going to have to do an"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "initial um crowdfunding to support that"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "about $500,000. We've already spent"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "about $400,000 putting it together. Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "but the bandwidth usage of this much"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "terabytes of content being seen by"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "millions of people will bankrupt us. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "we're going to have to find a way to to"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "I I don't want to put a a a fee on it. I"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "want to make it totally open to everyone"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "on the planet uh because it's going to"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "be the Wikipedia as it were of all"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "things dealing with this issue, but"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "that's expensive and we're not funded to"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "do that. So, we're going to ask you guys"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to help us. And if you want to come"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "uh in March"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "um at Hot Springs, Virginia near Thomas"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "Jefferson's hotring pools at our retreat"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "center. We're going to have a gathering."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "We can only take about 20 people in in"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "that retreat center uh for a week where"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "we're going to go through the entire"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "secret archive and I'm going to do these"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "dot connecting modules. these"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "intelligence briefings that will be"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "eventually cleaned up and put in there"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "when we first open the archives to the"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "public that all that intelligence"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "information is not going to have these"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "modules. We only have a couple of them"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "that I did for the uh special forces and"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "law enforcement people uh and for the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Senate uh that will be cleaned up and"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "and redacted"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "for obvious reasons, security reasons."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "um those we don't but I'd say there's"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "probably 15 or 20 of them that are"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "extensive that have not been done"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:29", "text": ">> and remember we have like a dozen or 20"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "categories crash retrievals top secret"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "witnesses government documents thousands"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "of them from all over the world many of"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "them not declassified that we've"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "acquired that are still top secret all"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "that's going to be there so anyone with"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "a computer or phone will be able to get"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "in there and see it"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> right so I I know you're having uh for"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "20 people in person. Uh but are you also"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "is there going to be a virtual"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "availability for people to attend?"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> Oh yeah. So the limits of our our"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "retreat house are such that we can't"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "have too many people there, but we're"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "going to uh live stream it um to the"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "public. Now, initially it looks like we"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "could take about a thousand people on"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "the system we'll have, but we may be"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "able to get more. So that's available."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "Those of you get on our site, you can"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "register for it remotely if you can't"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "come in person. Um I think the inperson"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "is about 2/3 sold out for for occupancy,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "but if you still want to come, there's"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "room, you know, as of right at this"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "moment."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> Right. The living room there will only"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "hold so many people."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": ">> Yeah. About 25 people. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> Our crew and about 20 others. And we're"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "maxed out. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": ">> Well, thank you, Dr. Greer. This is"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "great information. This has been very"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "informative."}]

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But this is"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "essentially a drone flying above the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "airplane, an MQ9 Reaper drone that has"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "pods underneath each wing, and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "taking photos all the time, circling"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "around an area. And what it does, it"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "beams this through a relay satellite,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "which you can actually see in the bottom"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "left, NOL22. That's a that's a real"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "relay satellite, USA184."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "It relays that information to uh like"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "PACOM or whatever the special forces uh"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "joint intelligence network is. And this"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "would have been only primarily"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "accessible in a skiff somewhere like"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "some secured facility where they have"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "intelligence analysts who are reviewing"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "it. And it's basically like Google Earth"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "video playback. Uh presumably only in"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "the regions where they have the drones"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "or there may be other capabilities. This"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "version of it we believe is increment"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "two based on the frame rate. It looks"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "like the plane's kind of jerky. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "only about six frames per second."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Nowadays, they apparently have stuff"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "that's much better than this, but that's"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "why it looks like the screen's moving"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "around. That's why the clouds don't look"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "like they move very much. There's"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "parallax correction in these systems,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "but this is a real And also the last"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "point is that you see that cursor that"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "closes that window out there at the end,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> right? Uh that's a big clue because it"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "shows that with these uh whammy systems,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "they have a big map and then they can"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "press somewhere on the screen and it"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "pulls up a window and it's like"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> what's a what's a whammy? What's a"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "whammy? If you use"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "So yeah. Okay. So just as a rule since"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "we're talking to the general public, if"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "you use an acronym define it the first"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "time and then we then can use the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "acronym."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": ">> Yeah. So it has like three different"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "names. They also call it Was wide area"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "airborne surveillance and then Miami"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "wide area motion imagery. So it's a"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "computer system that uses photos from"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "the sky and produces that footage. So"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that's the big one. And then I'll just"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "share the other video is there's two"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "drones that were recording this from"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "different angles. And this the second"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "one's also an MQ9 uh Reaper drone. And"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "you can see I mean you can see the drone"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "right there. It's actually under"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "hardpoint number five is where this"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "camera is situated. Uh my sources tell"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "me that it's a Lightning G4 by North"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Grumman which has color fleer"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "capability. So it's just an overlay they"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "can put over the fleer footage"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "essentially to show this thermal"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "gradient."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> And this one's so important because you"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "can see that these are plasma. These"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "orbs are actually plasma. They're really"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "a drone actually that's being encased in"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "plasma just like we in our spy planes we"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "use a plasma sheath to reduce drag for"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "our our hypersonic spy planes or"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "supersonic spy planes. The same concept"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "here. the extra bit that we see these"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "dark lines that come before and after"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "the plasma. This is actually indicative"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "of a field reverse configuration or a"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "plasmoid. You may be familiar with the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "terminology"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> where um they're essentially using the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "the exhaust so to speak from this fusion"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "reactor on the in the middle of this as"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "propulsion. And then as you see there,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "this was the first question I had for"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "you. the plane disappears like in a"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "flash, but as the orbs converge on the"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "plane. And when I started researching"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "this, the first thing that came up was"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "wormholes. And I believe that that is"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "truly a real wormhole. But it it's more"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "of how it's being accomplished that's"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "the amazing part about it. Even this"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "slow-mo version was actually built into"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the original footage that was avail"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "first found on the internet, which tells"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "us that whoever leaked this, they wanted"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "us to like understand what these plasma"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "spheres really are, what they're made"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "out of, how they function. You can see"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "this weird heat signature in them, which"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "seems to mean that it's a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "non-equilibrium plasma. Like the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "electrons have been separated from the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "ions and they're being kept separated"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "intentionally to build up a charge. And"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "then this last bit here, I'll just go"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "ahead and spoil what I think it is. Then"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "I want to get your opinion is that from"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "my research, I think those are plasma"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "fusion propulsion. That what we're"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "seeing with those plasma orbs. I think"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Loheed Martin's definitely implicated in"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "this for sure. They had a compact fusion"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "reactor that went dark."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> And I think that what we're seeing is a"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "thermonuclear weapon. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "literally a thermonuclear weapon in the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "sense that the plasma orbs are acting as"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "a polyhedral"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "fishing trigger. And that on board that"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "plane was a whole bunch of lithium ion"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "batteries. And it turns out that lithium"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "is one of three autronic fusion fuels"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "and it's used in thermonuclear weapons."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "So I think that long story short that we"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "learned how to manipulate spaceime when"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "we were building nukes and then when we"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "turned them into clean nukes, clean"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "fusion bombs, we really started to"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "manipulate spaceime in a significant"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "sense and that's what I think led to"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "that video you just saw."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> Right. And so uh do you getting back to"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "the provenance of all this which is all"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "important"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> because you know in the day in in the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "era of deep fakes and computerenerated"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "graphics and images and video and motion"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "graphics uh people are always going to"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "say uh and I've been doing this for 35"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "years now uh if it's a really good"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "photograph it's CGI. If it's not crystal"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "clear it doesn't tell you anything. um"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "they're always going to come up with an"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "excuse. So what I have found is that you"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "have to nail down the provenance"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "meaning uh the history, origin and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "credibility of the origin. Uh without"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "which you got bumpus. Um so uh just a"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "word to the wise. I mean I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "this a very long time."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> Yeah. You ready for this? So the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> we got to hear we got to hear you know"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "how how who who who had this footage?"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "How can we prove that this leaker had"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "access to it and his provenance? And"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "also a few jurisdictional questions."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Where exactly was this event when it"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "vanished? Let's just say it did happen"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "as shown geographically, where precisely"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "did it happen? Uh the person who leaked"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "it, what was his nationality and"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "corporate affiliation and things like"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "that are going to be very important for"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "what we're doing."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "So, and uh I'll share just one more"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "image right away because the location is"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "super important because that's actually"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Malaysian Airlines flight 370. It's not"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "meant to look like MH37 just literally"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "is. If you pull up this this uh kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "I built this into Google Earth here,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "this is the real path of MH370 starting"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "from Koala Lumpur when it went dark over"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the South China Sea and then later on we"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "found out it turned around and went back"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "towards Paneang airport which is a place"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "that you would land and then it makes"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "another deviation. This was still"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "tracked by military radar when it starts"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "going northwest here. And then you see"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the military radar loss at 1822 UTC. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "just because this is flat, it's not a"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "straight line, but this would basically"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "be a straight line going to the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "northwest up here to where you see it"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "says satellite video coordinates. These"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "are the real coordinates in that whammy"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "footage that I was just showing you. And"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "this is uh what 20 minutes away from the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "last radar plot that was publicly known"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "by the Malaysian government. Now also"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "note there's a witness, Katherine T."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "This woman here, I've spoken to"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Katherine T. She's a real person that"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "really saw the plane on fire glowing"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "orange right in the path of where this"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "plane is being shown in those videos. So"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "the providence or at least the evidence"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "that shows that this is legitimate"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "includes uh a real person who saw the"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "plane and a report in China times that"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "was not reported in Western media that"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "claimed to be an intercepted"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "communication of the pilot saying that"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the plane was attempting an emergency"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "landing and disintegrating which is"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "corroborated by the witnesses sighting"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "in both those videos I just showed you."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Now the real thing that people want to"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "know when it comes to the the Providence"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> so so here's a question. What let's"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "stop. So the the plane was on fire"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "before this these plasmoids appeared and"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "it vanished."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> Correct. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> so in other words, what timelines are"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "very important. Which came first?"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Yeah, let me pull that back up. So the"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "plane starts on fire. I presume if I"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "pull that back up here, uh at the top"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "right where it says plane goes dark 1722"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "UTC. Why does the plane go dark and why"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "does the plane turn around? A lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "people had speculated fire actually. uh"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "actually the lithium-ion batteries as"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "well, but they weren't known for over a"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "week after the plane disappeared and I"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "think that was covered up."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Personally, I think the whole thing was"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "an operation. I think they planted those"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "batteries on the plane dual purpose. One"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "to start the diversion to force the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "plane to turn around and then at some"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "point when it why doesn't it land at"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Paneang. That's where I think the United"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "States military comes over the comms and"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "says come to the rendevous point which"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "is those coordinates that I just showed"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "you. And they probably said something"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "like try to land in the water and we'll"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "fish you out of the water. and instead"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "they deployed those orbs on the plane"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "which was all part of the operation"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "presumably or maybe there was backup"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "plans and you know something didn't go"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "according to plan but that's my question"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "for the US government what I can tell"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "you for sure so this plane would have"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "been on fire but not like an"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "uncontrollable fire like a controlled"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "fire by batteries that were intended to"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "start on fire that were intended not to"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "take down the plane that were also had a"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "dual purpose potentially as a a"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "neutronic uh thermonuclear weapon they"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "could have been the payload for that So"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "this is the reason why we would have"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "never found the plane. This is why the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "whole south the other point is that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "location I showed you where the plane is"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "at"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> is at the same location where they claim"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the plane takes a sharp south turn into"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "the south Indian Ocean, flies for like 5"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "hours and supposedly crashes. Only"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "problem we never found anything down"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> And then we find this debris. This"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "debris that shows up. It shows up. We"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "would expect it to show up in the coast"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "of Australia"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> because that's where the plane crash off"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "the coast of Australia. The ocean"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "currents go to the east. But instead, we"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "find all the debris, which is only about"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "10 pieces, 15 pieces at most. I do think"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "it's from MH270. We find it in in"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Africa, a completely different"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "continent. And actually, in order for"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "this to begin to make sense, we need the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "plane to either go in the water or have"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "a final destination much closer to"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Africa than where we've been searching"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "in the south Indian uh south Indian"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Ocean near Australia. So, the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "circumstantial evidence seems to show"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "that something at least is not right"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "about the story cuz we never found the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "plane. plane has four emergency"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "transponders that only go off during a"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "crash. Somehow they can't be"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "deactivated. Somehow none of them go off"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "in this situation. The whole thing to me"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "reeks of espionage and this is why I've"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "come to you is because"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "the these videos the reason why they"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "don't want them out or multiple"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "purposes. One, that Gorgon stair"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "capability is integrated into all of our"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "intelligence. And that's why you can't"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "talk about it at all. It's not just that"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "we have a drone flying over there. it's"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "integrated into a big network that an AI"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "is looking around mapping the whole"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "planet looking for differences all the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "time,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": ">> We have much more capabilities we want."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "So, they can never talk about that."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> The other thing is there's no way to"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "spin this to claim that the aliens were"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "doing it. The reason is because you've"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "got an MQ9 Reaper drone tracking this"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "plane at super close distance. You can"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "tell it's an operation just based on the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "proximity of the drone to the airplane."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "And the camera operator zooms out like"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "this is not their first rodeo. like"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "they're like, \"Oh, we're going to get"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "this thing perfectly centered to make"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "sure we catch the zap here.\" And they"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "they kind of struggle. The plane falls"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "out of view. You can tell it's somebody"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "manually recording it."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> Now, the last bit I'll tell you is this"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "is that"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> now that I'm on my run here,"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": ">> if you can pro if you can get the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "government to release the MH370 files,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "cuz I promise you they have them. I've"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "been foying everything and I'm just"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "getting rejected left and right. Then"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "all of disclosure will come apart at the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "seams. And I don't know what it leads"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "back to. if it leads back to aliens or"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "if it leads back to ancient"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "civilization. But I guarantee you this"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "will all fall apart because I found the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "guy that leaked the videos. His name is"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Lieutenant Commander Edward Lynn. And"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "after I started exp Wait, is he"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "American?"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": ">> Yes, he is an He's a naturalized"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "American from Taiwan. Became a"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "naturalized American. He from talking to"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "people that used to work in his unit,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "which was the VP2 Wizards, a very"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "secretive uh Navy unit,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> they said that he was basically the"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "golden boy, that he was being kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "pushed up for upper management. He had"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "been a congressional liaison. He had"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "access to nuclear secrets and his case"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "is one of the weirdest cases out there."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "I mean, I noticed once I saw his case, I"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "knew he was the guy cuz the timeline"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "matched perfectly. He started being"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "investigated right after the plane"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "disappeared. I knew from that footage"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "that it was probably they were gonna"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "find out who leaked that for sure"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "because it's not somebody with like a"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "camera phone recording that. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "somebody pulled that off a flash drive"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "off a skiff. And"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> so what was what was he charged with?"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> He was charged with espionage. They were"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "going to put him away forever. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "the first incident of espionage by an"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "active duty member of the Navy since the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Cold War. So almost 40 50 years."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": ">> And where is he being held?"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> Uh Chesapeake is where I think they they"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "had him. But"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> and where was the tri where was the"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "trial"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": ">> in Norfick?"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": ">> Uh I'm not sure. I do know that he got"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "abused during his pre-trial detainment"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and they wouldn't let him out of"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "pre-trial detainment because they were"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "afraid of what he would say to the"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "media."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> And they convinced him to take a plea"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "deal. And it turns out there was no"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "evidence of him actually sharing any"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "information with anyone from China. They"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "had to admit this later on after coming"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "after him for espionage. And his family"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "was in support saying there was some"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "kind of misunderstanding related to"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "this. I think that he leaked those"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "videos out of like not knowing what he"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "was looking at and didn't realize how"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "much damage he was doing to national"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "security and then they get him in a room"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "where they're interrogating him trying"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "to figure out, you know, whoard's"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "connections, why did he leak that"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "footage and they find out"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": ">> or he may wait. I mean, if he if he saw"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "that an event happened like that that"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "resulted in the death of everyone on"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "that plane, his mistake was not claiming"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "whistleblower status and and doing it."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "So, but that can be corrected. So, the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "question is, I'm getting very specific"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> Please,"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> this is my wheelhouse. Um, uh, number"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "one, there's no FOYA officer on the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "planet that would be able to have access"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "to those files. This is the mistake all"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "UFO people make and UAP people make."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "It's a parallel universe. There's a"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "secret government programs that are"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "corporate, super secret government,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "hybrid entity that's above the"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "president. It's above the Congress. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "above members of the senior folks at the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Pentagon I briefed. You know, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "even guys who have rotated through as"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "the director of the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Agency have been blocked from this"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "information. So the idea that some"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "bureaucrat desk jockey who looks at"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "foyer requests is going to have even if"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "he wanted to release it he in a million"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "years he would never have access. So you"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "can save your ink. Um number two the"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "fact is the u this particular gentleman"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "uh this lieutenant uh colonel or"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "lieutenant what' you say it was a"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "lieutenant"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> lieutenant commander Edward maybe they"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "lieutenant commander. Yep. Lynn, he he"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "is Did he actually ever state that he"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "released that footage or no?"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> No. And he hasn't and he had never."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": ">> So, how do we know? So, how do we know"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "he How do we know he released it?"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": ">> So, I mean to depends on your level of"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "uh evidence and proof that you want, but"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "he changed his name legally two months"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "after I started outing him on social"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "media. Uh changed his name to Edward"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Sariah. The only way we found him"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "actually was that we found him under his"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "new name doing a promo video for his"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "company, which I'm not trying to ruin"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "his life. I I know he's the guy that"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "leaked the videos. I just want him to"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "respond."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> But um he's showing his old photos from"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "the Navy. And the weirdest part was this"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "guy had been charged with espionage."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "What he leaked went to the Joint Chiefs"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "of Staff. That's how serious it was. His"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "lawyer said that the evidence in"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "question was available on the internet."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "His lawyer said that publicly. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "recorded document. and his lawyer said"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "that he was investigated, investigation"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "began April 2nd, 2014. This is less than"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "a month after the plane disappeared. And"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "that the footage that was available on"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "the internet said received March 12th,"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "2014. That's 4 days after the plane"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "disappeared. So the person that uploaded"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "it, if they were telling the truth, they"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "got leaked right away. Somebody saw it"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "right away. They panicked. They released"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "it. I Edward Lynn changed his name. I"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "had been trying to contact him, couldn't"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "get in touch with him. Finally, someone"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "found his lawyer, Larry D. Younger and"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "they actually had a conversation with"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "him where he said something about the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "feds bringing satellite video into the"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "case. Now this is secondhand so I can't"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "corroborate that. I reached out to Larry"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Younger half a dozen times, maybe more."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "Wouldn't pick up the phone, never return"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "a phone call. Eventually turned off his"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "phone entirely and it's been off ever"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "since. I found Edward Lynn's recent"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "phone number. Somebody else was able to"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "get connection with it. Actually was on"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "a live stream, called him on the live"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "stream where you can hear his voice on"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "the on the um voicemail. And what I told"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "him was that I don't even necessarily"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "want him to come out as a whistleblower."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "I think that to counter your point, um,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "I think that what they're doing is"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "technically legal. I mean, yes, I would"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "say if the public were to know about it,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "we would all say it's absolutely"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "illegal. I mean, there was 239 people on"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "that plane, but I think it's being"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "covered under the peds and under nuclear"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "weapons classifications where normally"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "we would say that that's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "these are illegal covert operations. But"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "I think they had a legal reason. I think"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Averil Hines was actually like the CIA"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "deputy director at the time and and"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "became DNI. She was the one who was"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "doing the legal justifications for Obama"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "to do drone strikes. She would have been"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "the one probably writing the legal"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "justification for this operation as"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "well. And so this is the part, this is"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "why Edward Lynn doesn't take"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "whistleblower status because it's"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "technically legal stuff that he's doing."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "And now he's in their good graces. I"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "mean, he's doing videos where he's"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "talking about promoting stuff for the VA"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "and for veterans, and you're like, if"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "this was a spy,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": ">> so wait, this this gentleman did or"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "didn't go to prison."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> He did. He went he got a 9-year"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "sentence. So, they took a plea deal, and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "they dropped the espionage charges, and"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "they just give him like willful"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "retention of classified data, which if"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "you look at common char like uh"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "sentencing for that, it's like a year, a"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "year to three years, usually you get"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "probation. He got nine years. nine years"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "and they give him three they cut off"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "three for good behavior"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": ">> and he had been in prison too. So he"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "even testifi I'd look at his appeals. He"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "even argued in his appeals how"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "disproportionate his sentence was. And"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "they had the military had people come in"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "and testify as to what he did was so"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "serious. But all the stuff that they"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "released publicly about why he was a"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "danger for national security was all"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "just mundane emails. Like he never had"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "really done anything wrong that they"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "could actually point to and they could"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "never show."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> Okay, we we going too much on the weeds"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "on that because there's limit of time"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "here. I I think I I think the point here"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "I'm trying to make is"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> um the underlying technology that had"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "been used that that exists"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> is not known by members of Congress and"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "the president and the oversight"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "committees. Therefore, the underlying"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "programs are unconstitutional and"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "treasonous. I don't care how many"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "bureaucrats and corporate shills and"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "lawyers that are corporate shills say"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "otherwise. If the president and the the"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "people who constitutionally must oversee"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "such operations are not or actively"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "blocked and that's what we can prove is"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "happening not only in the Senate and the"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "House but in the White House over many"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "many administrations"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "uh because I'm the one who has"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "conversations with those sort of folks"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "all the time. And so what you what at"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "this point if there's an underlying"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "criminal uh operation"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "that is unconstitutional and op priori"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "treasonous"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": ">> everything else that flows from it is"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "also illegal and anything that is done"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "in the furtherance of that under RICO"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "statutes rakitarian influence corrupt"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "organization which is how we you know"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "took on the mafia all of those"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "operations fall into it and then the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "whistleblowers are protected. So you"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "even though here's and it's called uh"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "basically this is when you're you're"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "doing uh you know uh a stove pipe. So"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "you have a classified TSSCI stove pipe"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "but then they'll attach to it"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "legitimate. And one of the ways they've"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "kept the very illegal programs"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "a sticky wicket is that you could get"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "burned by exposing a legally overseen"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "known operation by the senior gang of"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "eight and the president. But attached"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "and buried in it in another stove pipe"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "within a stowpipe are the illegal"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "criminal operations. This is a nuance"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "that no one is is looking at and it m it"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "it but it imperils that in and of itself"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "is another felony. If you if you are"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "committing a treasonous and"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "unconstitutional act on something"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "related to UAPs and what have you and"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "use a legitimate top secret program to"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "further that secrecy, that is"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "compounding it and it is another felony."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "It's another criminal act. So that's how"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "that all falls apart. And this gets to"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "then what is going to eventually going"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "to have to happen. Two paths."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": ">> Key people in this case, assuming you"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "know that they're still living and you"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "mentioned the woman who saw the plane on"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "fire and things like that, they would"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "have to be subpoenaed and then they"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "would have to testify under oath. if"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "it's a US citizen, uh if they are"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "inquiried by a federal officer agent and"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "they lie, that's a felony. Um, and the"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "law enforcement uh would would then have"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "to say, \"All right, you know, because"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "they've already concluded, I can tell"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "you this, senior law enforcement and"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "certain members of Congress have already"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "concluded that these and certain key"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "people in the administration have"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "concluded these operations related to"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "UAPs are in fact part of a massive RICO"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "um criminal organization.\""}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "And at that point everything can be"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "rolled up in it. Now obviously there"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "would be legitimate covert programs"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "drone programs or telemetry satellite"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "monitoring but to the extent those are"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "being used and you'd have to you you"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "then have to redact certain things. But"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "say the use of something like these uh"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "plasmas or plasmoids to create we have a"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "whistleblower who has said it basically"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "it was an Einstein Rosen bridge um that"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "gets created by that system um where it"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "just looks like it vanishes and you know"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "if in fact that that plane on fire"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "vanished and quote unquote teleported"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "over to off the coast of Africa that's"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "totally doable. People don't realize"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "that capability does exist and has"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "existed for some time."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": ">> Yeah, it just won a Nobel Prize. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "macroscopic quantum tunneling 2025 that"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "I'm on Tim Pool like 6 months ago saying"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "that's what they did to the plane."}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "That's there's a difference between the"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "conceptual understanding of it which is"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "a wormhole which is a geometric shape"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "versus the actual physical mechanism"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "that allows it to occur which is"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": ">> manipulating the zero point energy. Like"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "the zero point energy is the distance"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "between here and there because the zero"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "point energy is spacetime itself. So if"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "in quantum tunneling you you reduce the"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "barrier that reducing the barrier is"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "reducing the zero point energy. And"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "that's why I think that even Hal Pudof"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "he's the one I wanted to ask you like"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "how you even got in touch with him"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "because he's the guy I think is is"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "working with the CIA to determine when"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "these weapons are deployed that goes"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "above the president according to the"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "presidential executive uh emergency"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "action documents."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": ">> And so they have he he's been an"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "operative of this group for decades."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "Yeah. Totally."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": ">> And he knows about this. He actually"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "responded to a couple of my emails that"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "he won't he's playing koi of course with"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "it but he's the one that has this"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "polarizable vacuum model where he's"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "basically saying that if you want to"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "manipulate a zero point energy use"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "electromagnetism well nothing has more"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "condensed electromagnetism than a"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "thermonuclear weapon specifically an"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "autronic one which does direct energy"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "conversion to electricity so that's what"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "I think they're using to do this but the"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "problem I think you're going to have is"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": ">> people have to understand what he's"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "talking about is not like we think of an"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "atomic bomb or or a hydrogen bomb blast."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:55", "text": ">> You need to make a distinction when"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "people hear what you said."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": ">> Because there you need to you need to"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "define that a little because people are"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "thinking boom."}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And this is the thing. This is"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "what people have to wrap their brain"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "around. Nuclear weapons of 1945 are not"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "the same as nuclear weapons of 2014 or"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "2025. One of the first things they were"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "trying to do is get rid of the heat, get"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "rid of the radiation, and just have it"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "be pure energy conversion. This is a"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "neutronic fusion, meaning no neutrons"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "are being released. So instead, you get"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "pure electricity, pure energy. And I"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "think that's what they're using on that"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "plane. But then this brings a big"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "problem up because now, like you said,"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "they could be rolling this up into"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "classifications that are perfectly legal"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "from thermonuclear weapon or nuclear"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "weapon secrets."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:37", "text": ">> That's what they do."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what they"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:40", "text": ">> We know that's what they do. We"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "absolutely know that's what they do."}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": ">> And that's how they burn, by the way."}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "That's how they burn whistleblowers or"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "investigators getting too close. I know"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "a couple of key whist uh investigators"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "uh one a very senior one for Senate"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "intelligence got too close but the what"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "what what was wrapped around the illegal"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "program were some things that were legal"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "that that he he was not to access and so"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "then ah we gota see it's a it's a"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "honeypot it's a sting but that in of"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "itself to use a legitimate classified"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "project as a sting for hiding a criminal"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "criminal treasonous operation that is an"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "even more serious crime. So this is"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "where the whistleblowers and"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "investigators like yourself need to"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "understand this because you know you"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "cannot and I've said this since the '9s"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "the foundation of the whole disclosure"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "movement is that we were able to prove"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "by me having meetings with very senior"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "people who if the programs were being"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "run legally would know. and they had,"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "you know, absolutely were not read in."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "And this is Bill Clinton. This is his CI"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "director. This is General Patrick"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "Hughes, who was head of the Defense"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "Intelligence Agency. This is Admiral Tom"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "Wilson, head of J2, head of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "for the Joint Chiefs of Staff."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "Chairman of the House Oversight"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "Committee in the 90s, Dan Burton, who uh"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "was trying to find out about this and"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "was blown off and threatened and on and"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "on and on. So the this is not crap I've"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "drugg off the internet by googling"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "things. Th this is 30ome years of direct"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "meetings with people that if these"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "programs were legal, they would have"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "been read on to them and and known about"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "it. And this is the foundation of people"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "coming forward and being able to avail"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "themselves of whistleblower or"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "protection. So, one thing I want to say"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "is anyone who knows about this case, we"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "do have a law enforcement team that can"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "extend protection, surveillance, as well"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "as uh whistleblower protection because"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "there are active criminal investigations"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "involving RICO that are ongoing and that"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "can this gets rolled up into. And if"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "there are people like that, they don't"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "need to be out there on a limb twisting."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "they need to come in and be part of that"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "network. Uh, and I'm a direct leazison"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "to that task force. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": ">> I'll just add there if anybody does have"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "info about this, I suggest you go to Dr."}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "Greer. His people can get in touch with"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "me if you want to. I'm not very easy to"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "get in touch with directly and he has"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "the resources to vet"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": ">> and make sure because there I know for a"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "fact there's thousands of people know"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "that's that's wide area motion imagery"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "and they know that's Gorgon stare"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": ">> and and I and the thing is like this is"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "the part about disclosure it's tough"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "like what I've learned is Congress has"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "no idea you're right they have no clue"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "whatsoever and I'm not even sure they"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "should know just my personal opinion"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "because when we're talking about these"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "thermonuclear weapon secrets like"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "they're going to get out I think the"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "part where I kind of diverge a little"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "with you and I don't not saying I"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "disagree cuz I agree with you a lot is"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "that I don't think you can disclose part"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "of it without disclosing all of it. Like"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "once you realize that we can create"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "these plasmoids that are these"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "stabilized plasma shapes and forms that"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "can cause create these weapons, they are"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "also an unlimited energy source forever."}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "It's it's the perfect fusion"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "essentially. But so the problem is now"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "once you want one of one piece of it,"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "you get all of it to come out. And I"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "think this is where they struggle. And"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "then to what you said about"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:12", "text": ">> Oh, it is. No, no, this is why we've"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "said for years. I mean, if you look at"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "the things in our archive that I wrote"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "to President Clinton after I briefed his"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "CI director is that certain aspects of"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "the there are ways to configure what"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "you're talking about into energy systems"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "that would ameliate the biosphere"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "problems and in poverty and there are"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "ways those can be applied that are"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "clearly a weapon system. The thing those"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "applications have to be completely kept"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "secret and regulated and what have you."}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "But, you know, look, everyone knows we"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "have thermonuclear bombs, so you can't"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "go to Ace Hardware and buy one. Uh, you"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "can have a tanker filled with uh, you"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "know, fuel uh, gasoline and run it into"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "a stainium and blow up a couple thousand"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "people. Look, you know, at a certain"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "point, and this gets into a larger"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "question, we're stuck. I did a movie a"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "couple years ago called The Lost"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "Century. You may have seen it."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": ">> And and we're basically stuck. We're"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "stuck in the late 1800s maybe if you"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "count power plants nuclear power plants"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "the mid uh 1940s50s with atomic and and"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "uh fision nuclear power which is"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "basically a big steam engine heating"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "water uh that's all it is I mean people"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "don't realize a modern nuclear power"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "plant is a big steam engine uh like the"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "choo choo trains of the 1800s going"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "across the west I mean people are not"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "very literate about science science to"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "be honest with you. But you know that"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "means that our our civilization is going"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "to have to at some point evolve socially"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "and politically to where at least the"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "first tier of these technologies come"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "out. And the other problem with this the"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "extreme secrecy on this the skull"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "duggery and misuse of those technologies"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "like if this is actually what happened"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "to those innocent people that's what"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "we're talking about. But I have worse"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "cases. I have a case where a quarter of"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "a million people were killed by the"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "deployment of a type of directed energy"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "weapon over the fault line off of"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "Indonesia that caused that massive"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "tsunami and earthquake that killed a"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "quarter of a million people. And that I"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "have people who were on the contract"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "vessel that went down there and"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "detonated that thing. But it's not an"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "explosion. It's a directed energy type"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "of system like a directional EMP scalar"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "system. Uh, they're also being used to"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "down ET craft. I've been at two black"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "sites recently where we have"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "whistleblowers who are at those sites"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "where these systems are used to down"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "non-human vehicles and inadvertently,"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "which ties into the MH370"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "down private civilian aircraft that"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "happen to get in the way. and they'll"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "just take them, they crash, they"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "incinerate them to powder and get rid of"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "the bodies they call biologicals and the"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "remains of whether it's a Cessna or"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "whatever it is. Um, now these sorts of"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "atrocities are ongoing. Uh, and the"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "man-made UFOs that are made by Lockheed"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "Northup and my uncle's old company,"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "Northrup Grumman and Rathon and a few"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "other Boeing and Skunkworks by the way"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "are the same entity on this engineering."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "A lot of people don't know that the they"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "are um what you have is uh all manner of"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "criminal activity going on and then the"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "worst is that we are not alone in the"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "cosmos and we have a bunch of people"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "with these sort of technologies and"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "they're a hammer and the whole universe"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "is a nail to hit. And so what's happened"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "is that you have an outofc control group"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "not supervised and known by the people"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "or their representatives. And so at a"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "certain point, if you're going to"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "endorse that, then you're endorsing a"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "totalitarian"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "uh covert state that trumps democracy"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "and trumps any the interests of the"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "people. But then who who who watching"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "the hen house?"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": ">> Right. I mean I mean the foxes are in"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "the hen house. So these guys who are"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "doing this to be honest with you are"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "committing all manner of dangerous uh"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "scenarios and abusing those"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "technologies. So while at the one hand"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "yes any technology can been turned into"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "I mean as I'm a trauma doctor so you"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "know I've seen a knife used you can put"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "butter on your bread or slit someone's"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "throat. I've seen both no problemmo"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "easy. But so the question becomes"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "you know who's going to be the guardians"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "of that? who makes these decisions and"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "is it relegated to a group of quite"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "frankly totalitarian fascists who want"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "to run the world to the ground and"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "control things as masters of the"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "universe motus we call them uh without"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "any regard for the human future because"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "they got on this path"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "without thinking what how do you get out"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "of it so they've gone so far down this"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "path what we're trying to do quite"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "frankly and I and this is why I have a"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "lot of support from people inside these"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "covert programs is to give an a a exit"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "path, a pathway out, but it's going to"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "have to be done reasonably. And I% agree"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "with you. These technologies that are"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "short path to weaponization and"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "offensive uses uh can't be allowed to go"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "out there. On the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": ">> the whole subject matter, if it remains"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "out of public view and oversight, these"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "extraordinary abuses, a short list that"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "I've just given you is very short. We're"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "talking kidnapping, embezzlement of"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "trillions of dollars, uh the downing of"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "civilian aircraft, the trafficking in in"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "humans, the trafficking in drugs and"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "weapons, um the complete subversion of"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "the law. You know, how far do you let an"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "organization go off the rails before"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "something happens to bring them back?"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "Now, is there are there reasonable"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "national security secrets that have to"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "be maintained? Yes. But at the same"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "time, you can't let an unchecked power."}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "This is what Eisenhower warned about."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "Beware of the military-industrial"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "complex."}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:16", "text": ">> And he said it because he had already"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "been burned. I know for a fact he had"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "been burned. So, let me add a few more"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "pieces of details on there because I"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "know that Rubio knows about the videos"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "because I saw a private email that had a"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "bunch of military intelligence people on"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "it and he was on it. They're talking"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "about ball lightning and cold explosions"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "from Tom Bearden, which is what we're"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "talking about in those videos. And so, I"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "think that we're never going to probably"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "get disclosure from the government"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "because like you said, it's all tangled"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "up together. Even Lockheed's tangled as"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "the defense contractors are. They've"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "been giving preferential treatment to"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "their buddies and the people that are in"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "the know and all this stuff. What I want"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "to point out is the sigma"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "categorizations from nuclear weapons."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "Sigma number one is hydrodnamics as in"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "magneto hydrodnamics which is control of"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "plasma with magnetic fields and then"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "number 11. Sigma 11 is inertial"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "confinement fusion which is one of the"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "main methods of producing fusion. The"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "NIF is what you know national ignition"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "foundation. So the problem is this stuff"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "is all tangled together. It's all"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "tangled up together and if it were to"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "get exposed lots of people have criminal"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "I mean like you said you listed some of"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "some of the crimes are out there we're"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "talking we don't know what happened to"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "those people that could be kidnapping"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "that could be murder that happened to"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "those people on that plane and that's"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "just one example what I would suggest"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "for for you might want to follow up on"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "is Charles Chase of Loheed Martin he was"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "the leader of the revolutionary"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "technologies division of Loheed Martin"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "skunk works he responded to me and he"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "worked with Ben Rich you know all about"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "Ben Rich that's I was like they were"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "working together on the F17 17 Nighthawk"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "where they almost certainly incorporated"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "some of these electrogravidic effects"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "into it. He's the one that convinced the"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "CXOs of Loheed Martin to work on this"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "compact fusion reactor and it went dark"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "in 2018, but his resume where he moved"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "on to Unlabs says that that project was"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "successful and that it's breathing on"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "its own. So, he he brags about being the"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "one to convince them to work on that."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "And if you watch their promotional"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "videos, it talks about unlimited range,"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "no fuel on board for this fusion reactor"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "and using it as propulsion flying"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "around, which is I think exactly what"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "we're seeing in those videos. Um, couple"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "last things on the science that I just"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "want to like,"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": ">> by the way, just so people you keep"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "using the word nuclear. 100% of everyone"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "listening is thinking radioactive"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "material and ionizing radiation. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "just to be clear, that's not what"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Ashton's talking about. But"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:31", "text": ">> no, a neutronic. Everyone needs to get"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "that into their lexicon. A neutronic"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "fusion. Because I've learned that"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:35", "text": ">> nobody knows what that is either. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "knows what that is."}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> Think direct energy conversion. What we"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "imagine like nuclear energy being."}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "That's what autronic fusion is. Like"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "we're actually turning putting the atoms"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "together and then we getting out of this"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "pure electricity not turning into heat"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "and then you know boiling some water and"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "then spinning the turbine. That's why a"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "neutronic is so big. So helium fusion"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "and trialpha energy I think are the only"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "two fusion companies currently working."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "both got funded by the DOE. They have"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "Myith Myithil Capital, Peter Teal"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "connected to them. So, if you want, I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "not, this is not stock advice, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "saying take a look at those companies,"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:09", "text": ">> but I want to help out with a little bit"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "of the science and physics because I've"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "hear you explain the physics, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "the concepts of what they have. They"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "have, you know, we're talking"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "replicators. We're talking uh at least"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "in the future teleportation being"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "possible. The teleportation is possible"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "because of ER equals EPR which is"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "Einstein Rosen wormhole is equivalent to"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "Einstein podski Rosen quantum"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "entanglement. Quantum entanglement is"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "just a tiny version of a wormhole scaled"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "up and we know quantum entanglement is"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "real."}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> Yeah. One thing people forget if you I"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "know it's very politically incorrect to"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "read but if you do read those of you"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "listening um the original disclosure"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "book and then the book unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "that went with that film in 2017"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "uh there is a a whistleblower who was in"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "the air force at a base in Canada in"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "1953"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "72 years ago where they had an"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "electronic system that could quote"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "teleport objects, not particles, from"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "one side of the base to the other. And"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "it's sort of funny because what they"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "were doing back then, everyone smoked"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "and they were using these big glass"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "ashtrays and it was disappearing and"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "simultaneously reappearing at another,"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "this is 72 years ago. The other thing I"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "remind people is the week that uh Ben"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "Rich, who had been president of the"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "Lockheed Skunkworks, died, my friend uh"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "uh who who was a aerospace uh gym said,"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "\"Look,\" he called him up and he he was"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "only a few days to live and and Ben Rich"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "said, \"Look, anything you can imagine"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "that you've seen at Star Trek or"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "something like that, we've already done"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "at the Lockheed Skunk Works. It's not at"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "Area 51. out in the desert. Uh I've been"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "out there. I'm working with people"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "who've been there and in the underground"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "facilities. Uh but what what I think"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "people need to understand is that he"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "said that 30 years ago in 1995 and the"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "technology curve just keeps going up,"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "right? So one thing to remember and this"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "is where this is actually very"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "dangerous. If you have an unchecked"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "powerful entity that has access to that"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "kind of technology that are not"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "necessarily guided by the best interests"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "of the world and the people."}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": ">> Uh this is where we could get in a very"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "big problem not only with what they are"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "doing but with what they are doing"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "against nonhuman civilizations that are"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "less than amused by this technology"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "curve that's now being deployed against"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "them. This is what no one's thinking of."}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "So you have to click this up to a higher"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "level of analysis to realize what the"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "threat matrix is by having a group like"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "this go on unchecked um and having all"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "access to technologies without any"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "supervision from the people uh the media"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "the government leaders and what have you"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "know and and this is not to say that the"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "uh as I receive information if there's"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "anything that is a operating schematic"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "it. I redact it because I know that a"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "lot of this information technology can't"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "be set loose on the planet because you"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "could have a terrorist in Mogadishu"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "deliver a fierce weapon over Washington"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "DC in two or three seconds uh not"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "minutes. I mean because if you're"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "dealing so if you're collapsing space"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "time that way, this is not something you"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "want uh out to just every Tom, Dick, and"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "Harry. On the other hand, uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "there there's a whole constellation of"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "technologies that could come forward"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "that would be very beneficial to"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "humanity. But I think most importantly,"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "and this is why, you know, I gave up my"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "medical career to invite whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "to come forward that we keep putting out"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "there to build it up. But I don't have"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "any of legal authority whatsoever. I"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "mean, I don't I don't run the FBI or DOJ"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "or White House or Congress, nor do I"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "want to, to be honest with you. uh I've"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "never had an aspiration to be involved"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "with government whatsoever. I just got"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "pulled into it. But at the same time, we"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "have a responsibility"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "to guide and advise them. So this is"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "where an external organization has to"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "provide that perspective and it is being"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "listened to by senior f folks at the"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "agency and elsewhere. But um what I"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "would say, you know, this gentleman who"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "went to prison and then changed his"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "name, that information, get the full"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "information to me. If there are other"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "whistleblowers out there that know of"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "that event where 200 plus souls"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "vanished,"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "then that is something that needs to be"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "looked at. And if there was a US"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "corporate or governmental involvement,"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "that needs to be gotten to the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "even if some of the reconnaissance and"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "other ways have to be kept secret, the"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "action itself cannot go unchecked. And"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "so because if that can happen, then they"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "can do anything to anyone."}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": ">> Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:07", "text": ">> and that's what I would say is that I I"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "just want the action to not go"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "unchecked. And I am happy to consult and"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "advise any government uh officials that"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "want to know my opinion because I agree."}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "I think that we have to be able to admit"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "what we did. I mean, to that point,"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "because that's I think that those"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "families, they, you know, they deserve"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "justice. They deserve to know what"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "happened. But at the same time, we need"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "to protect national security. I'm a I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "a, you know, a red, white, and"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "blueblooded American. I love my country."}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "I want to be safe."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:32", "text": ">> Trump talks about us having these"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "weapons nobody understands, right? So, I"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "understand that. But,"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> and this is why I push people for a"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "neutronic fusion because to me, that's"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "the avenue of getting what we need,"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "which is unlimited green energy for the"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "world to change everything. and it's"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "still going to be disruptive, but we can"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "avoid giving people thermonuclear"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "weapons that would blow the whole planet"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "up in an instant, right? We don't want"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "our adversaries to have that. So, last"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "thought on this is that that people"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "wonder how do you do this? The zero"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "point energy. The zero point energy is a"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "wave. If you squeeze that wave together,"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "it's going to become amplified like"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "this. And the portion that's above zero"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "is the positive energy. The portion"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "below zero is the negative energy. The"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "negative energy is what we need for warp"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "drives and wormholes. It's just a"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "conceptual misunderstanding when it"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "comes to PhD physicists not"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "understanding this idea of negative"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "energy. It's simply a matter of"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "squeezing your zero point energy waves"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "and causing them to to amplify and then"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "isolating that. And this is what uh Hal"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "Pudof and Eric Davis say in all their"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "papers. People need to read the Defense"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "Intelligence reference documents. The 38"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "papers that Hal Pudof was bragging to"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "Joe Rogan about. Everything is in there,"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "including there's two ways to manipulate"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "space time. One is you could use these a"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "neutronic fusion bombs which is going to"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "produce this huge amount of energy and"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "it's going to bend spaceime because of"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "E= MC² you have this huge amount of mass"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "energy but the other way is super"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "powerful lasers so atoscond lasers those"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "just won the Nobel Prize in like 2023"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "the shorter your burst of energy is in"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "time the more condensed it is and then"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "this is something I haven't said to"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "anybody I was actually kind of"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "uncomfortable about it but there's"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "another way to amplify those lasers"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "which is using a relativist istic plasma"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "mirror. So the plasma itself can"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "actually act as a mirror so that the"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "laser beams bounce off inside of it. And"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "if it's vibrating, which vibration is"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "the secret to all of this, then you get"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "these non-relativistic effects because"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "it's vibrating so fast. This is like the"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": ">> dynamic casmir effect, which takes the"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "kasmir effect you know about, and all"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "they do is they vibrate the walls. And"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "by vibrating the walls, it can amplify"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "the effect because of this motion,"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "relative motion, just like with a"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "Doppler effect when you're moving in and"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "out like that. They can do the same"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "thing with plasma itself and make the"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "plasma perfectly reflective as well. So"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "they really can produce these plasma"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "balls that are self- sustaining that"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "amplify laser effects and that can then"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "manipulate space time and use it like"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "riding a wave."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": ">> Right. Yeah. And so this is where uh you"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "know"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "stepping up wave out there is you know"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "our planet and our species cannot"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "continue living like we are on the"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "planet. But if we live in the way we are"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "socially and I would even say to a point"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "spiritually always at each other's"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "throat over every stupid superstitious"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "thing we can think of or this little"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "piece of land here and there um we can't"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "go forward either and this is why uh you"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "know it the part the foundational"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "problem is that we're and we're running"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "out of time is that we're going to have"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "to learn how to live together peacefully"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "with very advanced technology."}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "technologies and not weaponizing"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "everything we get our hands on. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "mean you know that is one of the the"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "sort of the original sins as it were of"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "the primate chimpanzeee roots of homo"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "sapiens uh to organize into war and kill"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "everyone you disagree with or who looks"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "different or sounds different. But"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "that's fine when it's clubs and even"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "machine guns or maybe even a jet. It"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "ain't fine with this level of"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "technology. uh and so this is on the"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "horns of the dilemma where on on a very"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "deep level when the final analysis it's"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "a social spiritual development that has"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "to be concommatant with the"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "technological what's happened right now"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "is our technology is way ahead of our"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "social development which is why we're"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "still blowing each other up over"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "nonsense and superstitions and beliefs"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "and little strips of land here and there"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "that don't amount to anything. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "we but we have technologies that could"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "obliterate the entire planet in the"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "twinkling of an eye. Um, and I think"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "even worse than that, because we're"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "we're so narcissistic as a species,"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "we're not alone. And the ones that are"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "out there are been watching this for"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "some time with increasing dismay ever"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "since we detonated the first atomic"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "bomb. People forget the modern era of"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "quote UFO UAP activity coincided"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "precisely with the detonation at the"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "Trinity site of the first atomic bomb."}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "And it's not by an accident. It was"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "absolutely very much related to this. Uh"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "and it still is because they knew that"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "once a species like ours sets on a path"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "where we go through that level uh of"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "what happened in the 20th century of of"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "physics and science and technology into"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "applied physics but then taking that and"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "turn it into a fearsson a terrible"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "weapon that could destroy all life on"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Earth. That's when a giant red flag"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "comes up over a planet. And boy, do we"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "have a big one flashing red above us."}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "So, uh, I think that's, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "kind of have to put this into terms that"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "people can understand, but also that"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "members of Congress or White House"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "people can understand because this"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "science is is unfortunately you one of"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "the funny things I had you you mentioned"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "Tom Bearden. Love Tom Bearden. We're"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "very good friends. We were very very"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "close."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:48:58", "text": ">> Oh, yes. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:00", "text": ">> I wish I could have met him. There's a"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "few engineers. Him and Paul Sizz was"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "another guy that I saw you interview"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "that I wish I met."}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:07", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. Yeah. He's a wonderful"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "guy. And one time I took uh uh Colonel"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "Lieutenant Colonel Barden up to uh some"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "people in the Senate and Science uh uh"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "committee folks. And uh and he we were"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "going to do a briefing. And I told him,"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "\"Now before you go, you're going to have"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "to learn to speak speak English, not not"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "200 deep talk, physics talk.\""}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": ">> And we went in there, but he couldn't do"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "it. The guy was so brilliant, but it's"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "like at the end I could tell no one"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "could follow"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "maybe they could follow this and but you"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "know, but everything he said was like"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "swuahili and so I had to do a"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "translation for them. But one thing I I"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "remind people when you're talking to"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "folks uh whether it's media, the general"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "public, uh Senate, you know, people,"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "presidents, none of them understand"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "science. Um and they're most of their"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "science adviserss, that's who we were"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "addressing, don't understand this level"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "of science because you're not learning"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "that at MIT and Harvard, you know,"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "you're going to learn that in the skunk"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "works. Uh so or someplace. So, we have"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "to learn to discuss it in a way that"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "brings it to earth um and define our"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "terms. But I also think that you what"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "you're doing is important. I would say"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "we need to put out a call and I'm doing"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "that right now to people who are"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "knowledgeable of what really happened."}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "There are people who know and I do think"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "that this uh gentleman who went to"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "prison, I don't care what his current or"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "former name was, uh absolutely could be"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "uh interrogated and and and he he would"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "not be able to to not answer the"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "questions on something that's a mass"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "murder criminal case that did involve"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "either US technology companies or US uh"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "military or intelligence personnel."}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "I mean that that you know that uh the"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "prerogative for the the rule of law"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "would trump uh whatever secrets he's"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "been told to hide. Um so"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:15", "text": ">> I think he needs a pardon though."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "Honestly, I mean the only way I could"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "see him talk is his plea deal would have"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "something in there that says that he's"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "going to"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": ">> that can be done. This is called a"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "letter of nonprosecution. You can get"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "immunity. And this is the other thing,"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "people listening, the folks I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "with are in a position to be able to put"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "that in place because when the day is"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "done, we have a whole bunch of high"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "value people in corporate and and"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "government workplaces that need exactly"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "that and and that's what needs to"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "happen. uh and this is going this has"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "been discussed you've seen some of the"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "draft legislation in Congress but in"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "reality this can be done through the"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "department of justice and also the"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "executive branch to anyone who has"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "information of great significance. They"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "can receive uh a letter of"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "nonprosecution and immunity for"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "everything they've done and been"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "involved with. But the quidd proquo on"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "that is they have to disclose"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "everything. They can't disclose this and"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "hold back that. It has to be the full"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "disclosure. But that is what we have. Uh"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "folks who who want to move in that"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "direction and I would say people"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "connected to this case uh and other UAP"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "related cases should contact us. Um you"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "contact you know Mr. Forbes you can"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "contact us uh and and we'll collaborate"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "on getting this to the right people who"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "want to see the truth come out and have"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "it come out correctly. And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "everyone I'm working with in the"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "government end of this who are the white"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "hats who want this, they understand the"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "sensitivity of the technology release"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "that it isn't everything. I'm, you know,"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "we're not wildeyed UFO people who go,"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "\"Oh, everything should come out and"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "we're floating in UFOs going from Paris"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "to New York in two two minutes"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "tomorrow.\" I mean there's a there"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "there's a technology curve that has to"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "get adapted to society's conditions and"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "the state of the world and the state of"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "the world right now it ain't peaceful"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "you know so and so you know in a"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "dangerous world we have to figure out"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "how to benefit and and advance human"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "civilization without destroying it right"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "so uh that's threading that needle it"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "takes some wisdom and and there are"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "people who I'm working with who I would"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "say everyone I'm working with understand"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "this issue."}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:37", "text": ">> Yeah. I have some final thoughts. One is"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "just that I think somebody wants this to"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "come out. That's the reason why I've"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "been not been told to stop or what have"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "you. I don't know what the factions are."}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "I would love to know what they are. But"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "if Edward Lynn's out there uh you know"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "you just heard it right here. He's got"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "the resources. If you want to get you"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "know legally covered before you can talk"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "about because that's what it would take"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "I think for the public to understand."}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "I've spoken I haven't mentioned this to"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "anybody but I've been I've spoken to"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "like bu you know uh businessmen that are"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "extremely successful wealthy I'm not"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "going to name names but just like you"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "said they don't understand the science"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "just like the politicians don't"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "necessarily understand it that's why my"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "action my personal action has been to"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "teach people the science to and explain"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "it in a way that they normally not the"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "way that the physicists talk about it"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "where they're always name dropping"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "things you can't follow what they're"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "saying but in a way that normal people"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "can get it and the last thought is"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:23", "text": ">> what I've learned from this technology"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "related to your um you to search for"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "extraterrestrial life wherever that may"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "be. Uh they definitely know. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "we're talking with the laser capability,"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "they can get below the defraction limit."}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "So, they can have telescopes that are"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "just beyond people's wildest"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "imaginations. If there's something out"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "there, they know about it. My personal"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "belief is that the moment we change LIGO"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "to start looking for artificial"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "gravitational waves instead of just"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "natural ones where neutron stars are"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "colliding, I think the whole universe is"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "going to light up because aliens are"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "flying around. They're not flying around"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "on rocks like three, Atlas, whatever."}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "They're flying around warp drives and"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "wormholes. They don't need to fly on a"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "space rock, slow space rock that's"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "moving like 0% of the speed of light or"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "whatever. It's like, come on."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": ">> Oh, it's ludicrous. Yeah. I mean, so"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "many of these things, you know, you know"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "that that's somebody with academic"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "credentials gaslighting uh gullible"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "people in the Congress and the public."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:16", "text": ">> We won't name names, but Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Oh, I will. Abby Lo, I know"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "exactly."}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "He wants his 100 million for his Galileo"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "project. I get it. I understand."}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": ">> No, now he's asking for a bill. Now he's"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "asking for a billion. You know, the big"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "the rat pack with Bigalow Aerospace got"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "maybe I don't know a hundred billion, a"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "million, I don't know. But now they want"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "a billion to to keep the whole charade"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "going, right?"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": ">> Let's put a billion into a neutronic"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "fusion research and then we can all have"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "infinite energy forever. Then we won't"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "have to worry about any of this stuff."}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": ">> Exactly. Exactly. Well, good. It was a"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "pleasure finally meeting you. At least"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "virtually. I hope I'm telling you that."}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "Where do you live, by the way? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": ">> I live in Minnesota, so yeah, I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:55", "text": ">> Oh, good. All right. Well, I'm I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "have a place in DC and a place out here"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "in the Blueidge Mountains near Thomas"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "Jefferson's house. So, if you ever get"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "out back east,"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:03", "text": ">> yeah, we should meet up sometime. I'll"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "uh I'll follow along and and and start"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "to meet up. And uh yeah, and if you can"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "spread the word and try to get awareness"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "in in Congress or in in government in"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "general, either about the MH370 case,"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "which I think the thread will unravel"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "everything, or just in general about"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "really the capabilities of thermonuclear"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "weapons and their connection to UFOs, I"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "think is is vital. I mean, you you laid"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "it out earlier. So, thank you very much,"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "Dr. Ger, thank you, Raven, for guys"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "having us."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> Thank you. Yeah. Have a have a good"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "afternoon. All right. A vitamin."}]

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Uh and that that is based on"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "the resin material that are in the"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "equatorial ports around the middle of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the uh the equator of the bugosphere."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "And uh since then we got the uh results"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "from uh a very prestigious lab for the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "metallurgy and that's an analysis of it"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "and the gamma ray emissions were a"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "baseline indicating that this object had"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "not spent any significant time in outer"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "space. That doesn't it tell us where it"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "originated from since uh if it had"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "originated u on another planet or even"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "been put together out of earth material"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "uh by an ET ancient civilization or"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "human advanced civilization connected to"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the ETSs. Uh we don't know which uh I"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "think it's probably more"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "extraterrestrial in origin. um it"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "wouldn't show that if it had not spent"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "significant time out in space getting"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "gamma ray um bombardment uh so or pass"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "through space. So uh we'll get into this"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "in a little bit about how you"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "manufacture extraterrestrial materials."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "What's more interesting is the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "metallergical analysis. Now, we always"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "knew it was 90 plus% aluminum, but what"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "we've got now is a whole list of 15 or"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "20 uh elements that are in this"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "compound, this alloy, and there's no"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "alloy on the planet that matches this"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "aluminum alloy that the shell of the"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "sphere is made of. There's not a match."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "There's some that are similar. And"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "what's interesting is that in some of"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "the elements, and I'm not going to bore"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "you with all that, is that the some of"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "them are elements which were not even"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "discovered until the late 1800s or early"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "1900s. And since the bugosphere itself"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "is dated to 12,560 years ago, that is"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "remarkable. Those particular rare earth"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "elements are also ones used in very"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "high-tech electronics and precision"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "engineering but also for electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "and magnetic field uh modulation. So I"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "think what we're looking at there is uh"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "the the actual physics of how this"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "bugosphere would spin and lose its mass"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "and and levitate sort of anti-gravity is"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "very much connected to this unique alloy"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "that the shell of the of the bugosphere"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "which is a you know 2 or 3 cm thick."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "It's an inch to inch and a half thick."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Um, and that that that aluminum alloy,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "not only doesn't match any known uh"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "existing ones on Earth, but it also uh"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "has elements in it that weren't even"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "known on Earth until a little over 100"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "years ago. 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Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "and I think these findings are going to,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "you know, be uh add it's additive that"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "with the carbon dating of the resin"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "that's in the the actual portals uh"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "around the center. And then another"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "interesting part about this is that the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "uh the te the the the metallurgy"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "would indicate that if there was a"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "compound that was of this precise"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "composition,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "if it does exist on Earth, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "classified. In other words, it wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "be in a database that it matches with."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Um, and but when you look at this object"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "and its age, it would indicate more and"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "more that it's of a nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "extraterrestrial origin and that it it"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "was one that was either teleported here,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "which we can talk about that. We'll get"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "into this a little more with the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "discussion with Ashton Forbes about the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Malaysian jet that vanished in thin air,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "but also where uh you know the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "manufacturing of an ET object isn't you"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "don't dig up uh ore and smelt it and"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "then weld it together into a a Boeing"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "jet or a car. 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And this is true of all the ET"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "craft that have been analyzed after"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "we've downed them in crash retrievals."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "And it's also true of parts of craft"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "that have been studied by scientists I"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "know who work under contract with uh"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "either CIA or or some tech company. 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Um and it's not at all"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "how we manufacture things. If you take"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "apart your any solid state device you"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "have it's a zillion little parts uh"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "welded and put together. This is not how"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "ET manufacturing happens. So I think all"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "of this would indicate that we're"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "dealing with a bonafide nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "extraterrestrial device. Uh and then on"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "top of it, you have this breakthrough"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "that's just happened where two separate"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "teams of linguistic experts uh have uh"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "analyzed the symbols and found that they"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "were of a proto Sanskrit foundation or"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "or origin and those have been those"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "words and symbols have been translated."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Um, and it's sort of ominous cuz it sort"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "of seems to indicate at the time that"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "that was made of some catastrophic event"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that happened from the sun or some"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "cosmic event and we know that was at the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "time of the ending of the last ice age"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "and there were a lot of so-called earth"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "changes and geohysical changes. The"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "question is why are now all of these we"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "have five videos of five separate uh"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "buggosphere activations now that that we"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "have received from Haime Mason out of"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Mexico City cuz he's in touch with"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "everyone in Colombia South America where"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "these objects are happening in and"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "around the vicinity of Buga B UA"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Colombia which is how it got the name"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "bugosphere and that would indicate that"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "there's some kind of bugosphere"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "activations plural because there are"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "multiple of them that would uh you know"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "it could be pretending that we're coming"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "up on a time of significant geohysical"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "changes or something. So it's a bit"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "interesting to say the least. Um uh so I"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "think that's more to follow. I think"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "what we're going to do at some point"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "they also found that when people went"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "into a room and chanted mantras which"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "interestingly originate from Sanskrit"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "and the symbols on there are"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "protoanskrit."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "The sphere starts putting out"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "electromagnetic fields of energy uh"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "anomalously. Um I wonder if I had a"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "dream last night actually and if we went"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "in and did a puja which is all in"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Sanskrit a whole long puja and meditated"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and see what this sphere would do if it"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "would start interacting in any way. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "now you know a lot of people who are new"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "haven't followed this but since the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "early 90s I've told people that the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Sanskrit language is the root of all"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Indo-Uropean languages. proto Sanskrit"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "would be just a very ancient version of"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "modern what we have today in as Sanskrit"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "but that the Sanskrit language the words"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "and the vibrations of those uh sounds"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "are known as name and form. In other"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "words, the word for a for water ashman,"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "you can use it and materialize water or"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "the same thing for fruit or same thing"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "and you hear of the enlightened and"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "masters being able to materialize"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "objects with this kind of frequency and"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "consciousness. Now it's interesting that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "this sphere has protosanskrit on it"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "seems to be reacting to mantras and of"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "course one of the foundational aspects"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "of C5 contact close encounters of the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "fifth kind contact is the meditative"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "state using those frequencies in the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "mantras and you know and this was"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "something that I experienced when I was"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "18 where it was very clear to me that"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the science of consciousness and the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "whole vadic knowledge"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "which by the way precedes any organized"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "religion. People associate it with"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Buddhism and Hinduism, but that's not"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "true. It actually precedes uh any of"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "those. So I think it's very important"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "for people to begin to connect a couple"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "dots here and that is uh the ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "science of knowledge and even these"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "ancient technologies"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "uh some of which are referred to a"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "little bit in the bugabaga the bimmanas"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the UFOs flying around but that seems to"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "go back way to pre-recorded history now"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "connect that dot and the science of"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "consciousness and C5 contact to the idea"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "that this bugosphere is actually an"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "operating anti-gravity and communication"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "device that seems to have not only the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "protosanskrit symbols on it but seems to"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "react to mantras being chanted in that"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "frequency. So, this gets into a very"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "interesting analysis and uh this is why"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "um you know, we've been working on a"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "film that we're totally at this point"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "scrapping and we're going to do a whole"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "new film using the new whistleblower"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "testimony, but all this new information"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "from the bugosphere. And another"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "breaking news story is that we've"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "received, I don't know, 6,000 pages so"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "far of documents from a source who has"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "been working with seven uh defectors"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "from uh illegal covert programs dealing"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "with UAPs and UFOs. Um, and some of them"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "are quite explosive in terms of exposing"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "what was going on with some of the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "aerospace contractors who were"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "gaslighting and deceiving the US"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "government. What the senior CIA guy I've"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "known since the '9s calls the rat pack."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "And that will be a great little"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "subchapter of this new film, The Rat"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Pack. and he talks about how they have"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "been deceiving the US government, the"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "media, and the public, and the UFO"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "community for quote decades. I'm quoting"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "from an email he sent me um some years"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "ago after the whole Kurbuffle happened"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "with the tic-tac and and Lou Alzando and"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "and that whole rat pack of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "disinformation operatives. Now we have"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "documents connecting all of them to uh"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "receiving millions of dollars in"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "research funds um through uh Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Aerospace and then reporting back"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "falsified conclusions on things like the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "tic tac and so and yet at the same time"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "it has a lot of information on real"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "research that's very interesting. So uh"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "now it's going to take us a while to go"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "through all that. we're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "have get an AI program to be able to go"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "through this volume of material because"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "I'd go blind looking through all of them"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "word by word. But it's an extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "development. Uh the other thing to to"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "realize is that we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "receiving more of these documents"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "apparently and uh there may be maybe"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "some new whistleblowers related to it."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "So, we're going to do an entirely new"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "outline of this film and and pivot to"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "something that is uh just just to catch"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "up with the amazing breakthroughs of the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "last month or so. All of this, I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "telling you, has happened in the last 30"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "days. So, this is where you sort of stop"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the presses and say, \"Okay, now we have"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "something uh 10 times more explosive to"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "reveal that will be coming out.\" And we"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "hope we can finish this so it comes out"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "dur sometime. Um, so that's our goal"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "with the new the new film we're going to"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "be doing. Uh, and then just one other"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "thing, uh, we will be, uh, doing a"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Gaiaphere event in November. Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "unfortunately the dates aren't here on"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "my sheet, but it's sometime in November."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Um, and uh, the we're going to do a"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "fundraiser for all this disclosure work"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "on uh, the Friday night before the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Gossphere event. So, if you want to help"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "us and want to have a small private"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "gathering with me, we're going to have a"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "whole afternoon and evening for major uh"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "significant funders who want to help uh"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "fund this cuz uh we're we're"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "encountering, you know, enormous"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "expenses, not only with the film, but"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "with the scientific analysis of all of"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "this material and um also the uh"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "investigators who are leazisoning with"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "us um to the senior law enforcement"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "officials in the United States who are"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "now moving very quickly. Uh I will tell"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "you that the most important developments"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "in disclosure you are not going to see"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "on the internet or on the news or"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "certainly not in a congressional hearing"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "as they are currently configured. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "happening uh in the sphere of covert"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "investigators on the side of disclosure"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "working with the most senior law"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "enforcement people in the United States."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "And that is what's happening at a very"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "and it's happening very quickly now. I"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "am leazoning that information uh"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "confidentially to uh certain members of"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Congress and they're aware of it and are"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "cooperating. So that's about all I can"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "say about that just because I have to"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "hold some of this confidential because"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "I've agreed to do so. So that's sort of"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "a quick trip update on on all of that."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "And and one of the things I also want to"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "mention is that uh with these new"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "documents, one of the the things that"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "stood out to me was the amount of money"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "that was obtained. You know, I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "know if you guys remember during co I"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "think it was in 2021,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "uh General Herbert, uh Bob Herbert, he"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "had been a sort of right hand to Senator"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Harry Reid, who was the majority leader"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "of the Senate back in the day. Uh and uh"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Herbert had left the Pentagon as a"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "general and was an assistant on the UFO"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "UAP issue for Senator Reid who was very"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "interested in this. His home state was"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "Nevada. and Senator Reid ended up"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "mentoring uh Senator Marco Rubio who as"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "co-chair of the Senate uh intelligence"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "committee along with the chairman"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Senator Warner really began to drill"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "down a few years ago on the UAP issue"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "and I had been asked of course to go in"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "and provide uh information in a skiff"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "secure compartment information facility"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "of what we had because they had been"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "investigating it for a couple years and"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "just hit a a lead wall. Interestingly,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "the chief investigator, who would be the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "equivalent of a three-star general if"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "he'd stayed in the Pentagon, told me"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "that he went out to the Lockheed skunk"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "works and ended up finding um a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "old antique jets and stuff and he knew"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "he was being lied to and gas lit. U he"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "was smart enough to know he would and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "that's when they reached out to us and"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "um then everything changed, frankly. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "uh, of course there's a a a new"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "leadership at the Senate Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Committee and a new chair and co-chair"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "because Mr. Rubio became, uh, the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Secretary of State, as you know, a few"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "months ago. But at any rate, um, that's"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "what's going on at at that level. And"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "and around before that time, however,"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "General Herbert contacted me. He says,"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "\"Look, we gave tens of millions of"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "dollars to Bigalow Aerospace,\" uh, which"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "was Robert Bigalow, who I'd met in 1993"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "at Lawrence Rockefeller's ranch. He was"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "a billionaire Las Vegas who had a hotel"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "chain. Um, and then, uh, he had gotten"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "intercepted by Colonel John Alexander"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "and a number of other people who were in"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "this disinformation rat pack that had"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "been operational since the, uh, 70s and"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "80s. And uh Bigo Aerospace had a"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "contract to do a report on all of this"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "to the US government and it was at the"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "initial amount was $22 million. And of"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "course this came all out in the Wall"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "Street Journal and New York Times some"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "years ago. But what they ended up giving"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "General Herbert and Senator Reid, quote"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "unquote, was not even a snapshot from"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "40,000 ft. In other words, he said we"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "didn't get anything of substance."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "Meanwhile, in these files that we have"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "obtained from internally are all the hot"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "stuff they did find and do have on crash"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "retrievalss, on all kinds of tech, on"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "the science uh equations and and and"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "formula for gravity control,"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "anti-gravity, whatever you want to call"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "it, is 0 point all this. And this is"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "what we've just received. And it's"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "several thousand pages. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "five or 6 thousand pages. But what I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "saying here is that there's a lot to go"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "through. Um, at say the least, uh, I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "going to have to redact anything that"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "could be an operating system that could"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "be weaponized cuz that's I have a"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "responsibility to do so. And I have"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "promised the government since Clinton"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "that that's what we would do since these"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "can be very dangerous technologies if if"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "they are weaponized. But the scandal of"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "all this quite frankly is that what was"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "given to the people who used Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "funding but was authorized by Congress"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "back in the early 2000s to get to the"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "bottom of this ended up being"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "whitewashed and watered down and yet"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "they were doing all this other work"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "right under clandestine contracts with"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "the Defense Intelligence Agency and"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "other entities. So we can now prove this"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "through these documents. Now the the"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "question then becomes how many crimes"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "were committed by taking those sums of"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "money from the government and covering"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "up their findings because you know and"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "this is exactly what Dr. Kurpatre did"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "with Arrow. you know, the that the"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "Congress passed laws and funded an"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "office to get to the bottom of the UAP"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "UFO issue and that became an operation"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "which we can now prove and which has"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "been concluded, by the way, by certain"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "members of Congress and and senior US"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "federal law enforcement as having been a"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "cover up operation. So there you're"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "talking about multiple felonies of"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "defrauding the government, abuse and and"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "misuse of government funds, etc. and so"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "on. You know, the only question is going"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "to be and do we have enough now to prove"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "all this? Yes. The question is what's"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "the how much stomach is there to go to"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "prosecution, right? That's then that's"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "that's where it becomes very political"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "unfortunately. But all we can do is put"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "the facts together and make our"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "recommendations to the Congress and to"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "the president and to the Department of"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "Justice and the FBI, etc. But um but"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "that is where that is. And I will tell"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "you that this is very explosive"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "information. Um, so this new documentary"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "we're going to do, I think could"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "probably be spun off into a whole series"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "that'll be dealing with not only this"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "ancient non-human object, the bugosphere"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "object 12,500 years ago flying around,"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "but now we have all this recent history."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "And you'll look at the timing of it. In"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "2001,"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "we did the national press club event"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "that kicked off the modern disclosure"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "error. Uh the whole this whole period"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "period. Now, we had been doing it before"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "then, but it was quiet and it was not"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "that public. It was called Project"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "Starite, which was a code name that I"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "didn't give it. A man who was friends"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "with the CI director for Bill Clinton"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "named it. And that's when we had our"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "first gatherings of top secret"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "whistleblowers in 1995 and then in 97"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "1997 for members of Congress. And and"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "once we realized that neither the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "president nor Congress were going to get"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "to do anything, uh we organized the the"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "what's now known as the launch of the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "global disclosure movement in 2001 at"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the National Press Club with 22 of these"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "witnesses and whistleblowers. But at"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "this point now, we have I debriefed over"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "seven or eight hundred of them and we"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "have new ones coming in all the time."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "And um there's another whole group uh of"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "seven that are very key that have just"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "surfaced that have dealt specifically"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "with the technologies um and the 0 point"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "electrovidics and things of this sort."}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "Um so this continues to grow and you"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "know we do appreciate everyone's help"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "and support because we are not receiving"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "money from the government or a"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "corporation. We're doing this all out of"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "our own ability to uh fund it and raise"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "the funds to do it on a on a not just US"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "scale but on a global scale uh all over"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "the world as well as operations that we"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "have in United Kingdom, Canada and"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "elsewhere. So um those of you can help"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "and come to our event in Boulder in"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "November. I think Raven probably knows"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "the dates."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> Yeah, it's November. Our fundraiser is"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "November 7th and then the gasphere event"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "is the 8th and 9th on that weekend."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": ">> Yeah. So it' be fun to see everybody"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "there who can make it. Um and uh you"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "know hopefully also the weekend with in"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "the gasphere will be fun. We'll be"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "talking a lot about the bugosphere and"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "the gasphere which is kind of funny but"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "uh why not? So, uh, that's sort of a"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "quick update of the, you know, last"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "couple weeks, uh, that we've been"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "pulling this together. The metallurgy"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "report, um, we will re release at some"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "point. We're trying to get clearance"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "from the lab to put their name onto it"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "as we release it. Normally, they're"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "very, it's a very high-end lab, but um,"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "um, once we have that answer, we'll know"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "if that's going to be redacted or not,"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "but as soon as we have that answer,"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "we'll release the full report. It's 110"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "pages of metallurgy analysis on the"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "metal components of the bugosphere."}]

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She had been at the atomic bomb"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "site and then was moved to Roswell and"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "she was there when the ro the crash"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "happened in near Roswell in 1947.\""}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "And all she would ever say is that she"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "absolutely knows that the ETSs are real."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "That's all she would say. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "the family never knew anything else. Her"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "this woman's grandmother passed away and"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "a few years later, they were going"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "through the attic and picked up a book"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "and out falls a five by 10 uh"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "photograph."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "And it's a photograph of some kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "humanoid being"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "we do not know from whence it came. And"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "she was convinced it had to be one of"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "the bodies from the Roswell event. 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They looked at they said"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "absolutely this is mid 1920s. So we're"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "talking 20 to 25 years before Roswell."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "And what are we looking at here?"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Unfortunately, I'm not wired. I thought"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "I would be, but I can't walk over to it."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "But you have, if you want to zoom in on"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the on the head and the body. Um, oh"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "dear."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Oh, boy. This is why I never touch a"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "computer."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "oh, it left. Well, he'll come back."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "See, I don't understand all this. Give"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "me a big thing like this. But while he's"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "bringing it back up, I will speak from"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "this one. So you have what look like,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "you know, military or intelligent"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "civilians"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "here, here, and here. You have medical"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "personnel. This is the main doctor doing"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "the the dissection. This blob here is"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "just damage on the emulsion."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "We had the paper tested, the original"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "paper, because we we had access to it."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "And the original paper is from pre early"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "50s. We know that. We also know that"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "it's a photo of a photo."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Okay? And I I'm just telling you what we"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "know. I'm giving you the facts first and"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "I'm going to give you an educated"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "assessment after."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "And it's a very unusual head and eyes."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "You can't see great detail, but you can"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "see some. It's got a a towel over it."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "obviously had probably a lot of facial"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "and neurot trauma. Um, you can see uh"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the body cavity and the ribs very"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "unusual in in how it's structured almost"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "like an external these bumps on the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "outside certainly not a normal human and"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "uh the hands and the feet and the legs."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "So, we're dealing with something, you"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "know, that isn't a a homo sapien or"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "human. We don't know what it is. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "calling it an extraterrestrial at this"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "point because we need more information,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "which is why I was given permission to"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "disclose it to you today. And if it is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "what we think it is, it is in point of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "fact one of the most important things"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "ever to surface because it predates"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Roswell by two decades or more. And it"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "is also clearly some kind of formal"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "operation"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "going on dissecting this. And now I have"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "been told by a number of my contacts in"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the intelligence community who have been"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "in the vault as they call it that there"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "are files classified still top secret on"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "this issue from the late 1800s and early"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "1900s."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "They never went through them but they"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "know that they were related to"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "extraterrestrial intelligence and UFOs"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "going that far back. This is now 100"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "years ago."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "So I will pass this around. You're free"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "to look at it. um that those of you at"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "home you can you know zoom in and out is"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "I I I now talk about my assessment."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "So I believe what happened"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "because I've been involved in a number"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "of cases as a medical doctor and an"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "emergency doctor and forensic cases"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "that when the Roswell event happened and"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "this woman, Miss Haven is her name, was"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "there at Roswell and been at the atomic"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "bomb project, she was cleared to a very"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "high level of secrecy even though she"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "was doing a rather ordinary task as a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "seamstress. But when Roswell happened,"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "if there was actionable intelligence and"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "files in an archive on prior"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "re retrievalss or events, those would"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "have been couriered in so that they"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "would have had a comparative anatomy and"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "a comparative"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "uh point of reference in studying the"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "retrieval of the objects from the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Roswell crash. What I think happened,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "now this we don't know. we're asking for"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the public to help is that"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "they needed these older files and"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "someone she knew who is probably in the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "photo lab at the Walker field said,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "\"Wow, look at this.\" And he took a"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "picture of the picture and gave it to"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "her, but she secreted away until she"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "died and it fell out of a book. Now that"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "those are the facts that are known"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "facts. It came from someone at Roswell,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "but it's not Roswell. It came from"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "someone clear to the level of the atomic"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "bomb project, the Manhattan project, and"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "to be at Roswell, which at the time, the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "509th Bomber Squadron was the only place"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "in the world that had atomic bombs in"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "1947."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "And and yet it isn't that era, but"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "that's even more explosive. It means"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "these covert programs that have studied"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "this issue go back much further."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Now, what we're asking for specifically"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "for the public, look at these men. You"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "people out there may have family"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "pictures who will know who one of these"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "people are. If we can identify one of"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "them, then we can connect it further and"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "begin to go deeper into what this really"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "means. or if you're in a classified"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "project and have access to the vault"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "and you know who you are, contact me if"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "you have any detailed information on"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "this. I am telling you everything we"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "know. Most of what we should know about"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "this case, we have no idea. This was a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "serendipitous strange thing that"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "happened where these people who we know"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "the provenance of the photograph. We've"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "tested it. We know it's from the 20s. We"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "know that the the woman uh in whose"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "belongings it was found who had deceased"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "was in fact at Roswell. We prove it and"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "that she had been on the atomic bomb"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "project. More than that, we don't know."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "I'm giving you an informed assessment of"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "probably what this is. But we need the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "public. This is why we can crowdsource"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "digging into this. And maybe someone has"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "an answer that's very ordinary. I doubt"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "it. Not that particular being. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "anyway, that is something that I I think"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "is a really important case. It's in"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "development. Um, we've hit a wall. The"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "family and my team, we can't go any"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "further without someone being able to"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "tell us who any one of those people"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "might be. And you may have a family"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "album from your great great-grandfather,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "whoever from the 20s, who would have"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "been an adult then, because those all"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "those men are dead by now, obviously."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Um, who might know who they are. and"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "from there we might be able to connect"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "them to an operation, an agency, a"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "military branch, what have you. So"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that's what we're asking you guys to"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "help us with. So what I want to do next"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "is to show a number of clips of some"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "interesting interviews."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> Project Paperclip, most likely we got"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "5,000 or more scientists."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Uh we got I heard we got train loads of"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "paperwork, mature nonlinear physics"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "experiments, Walter Gerlac's"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "uh research, the death camp research. We"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "got all that as well as you know the the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "uh the Bell project plasma accelerator"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "you know all that kind of stuff in that"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "deal. my granddad and I when we were"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "talking I'll never forget it and he said"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "he was talking about patent and of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "course he said I was in Czechoslovakia"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "with Patton in April 45 and I thought oh"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "that was neat you know what did you do"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and he's like well you know they patent"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "had to secure a lot of the stuff that"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "the SS had and I said oh that's"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "interesting and you know and today we"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "know it as the SS4 division under Hans"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Comler general Hans Comler and of course"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "uh Gestapo Mueller also had a security"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "three levels of security around that"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "town. Um, which was pretty dense. And of"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "course, the SS we know today had their"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "own funding streams. They were totally"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "independent of the Reichag. And you"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "know, a lot of that treasure in"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Switzerland. They had access to"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "unlimited funds,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> Uh, which sounds a lot like the deep"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "state today."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "And so I said, \"What were you doing with"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "patent?\" He says, \"Oh, it was"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Memory serves that granddad told me they"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "were with General Marshall.\" But I could"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "be wrong on that. But I remember that he"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "said he's he was with Patton probably"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "maybe Marshall, maybe some other"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "generals. And they said, \"Well, we went"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "into this warehouse and there were all"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "these exotic, you know, jet aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "rocket engines, parts of the V2 and"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "maybe a V3, I don't know.\" And I said,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "\"Oh, that's interesting.\" He says, \"I"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "saw a discshaped aircraft.\""}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "And I said, I've known I'd done some"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "history work by that time. I said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "is that the one they built?\" I can't"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "remember who built it, Arato or maybe"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "someone else that had the BMW jet"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "engines and the Era ones in a circle and"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "it didn't really work and everything"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "like that. And he said, \"No.\""}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "And that was it. It was time for lunch."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "The guests had arrived. The wine flowed,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "blah blah blah blah. And I went away as"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "a college student. I was like, \"That's"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "interesting.\" And it didn't hit me until"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "I read Nick Cook's book, I think in"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "2004."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Mhm. And I was like, \"Okay, this is"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "getting really weird.\" Because, you"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "know, in 1993 when I was 31, I showed"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "the the Majestic 12 documents to my dad."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "And we went back and forth on that."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "And I said, you know, I've heard of, you"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "know, Roswell and Palona Peak and"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Corona. I've heard of some of these UFO"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "crashes, but are these real? And he"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "said, oh, no. You know, that I checked"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "with the Pentagon, the FBI, it's all"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "hoax. And we went back and forth for"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "months on this. And he finally said,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "\"Look,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "just don't go down that road.\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "he says, \"Live your life, enjoy"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "yourself, but don't, you know, the they"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "have it all under control. They know"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "what they're doing.\" And I said, \"Dad,"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "how the hell can I live my life if this"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "is the truth of our world?\""}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> Mhm. So, so this disc in the warehouse u"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "obviously we got it and it ended up"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "somewhere in the United States"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "uh probably right Patterson right field"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "as they called it back then."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> I am not a documents expert but I know"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "60s mimograph sheets like you and I had"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "in school. I mean they smell funny."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> He's a guy in my car club and he was you"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "know in the Air Force. His father was a"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "three-star general in the Air Force. I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "not going to say his name. I I promise I"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "never would."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> Yes, I understand that."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> I mean, you know, it's just my story,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "you know, but um he and I started"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "talking about this and he says, you"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "know, my wife and I have seen all kinds"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "of strange phenomenon. We've had, you"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "know, glowing foo fighters come into our"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "home and you know, all this stuff. And"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "he says, I want to show you something."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "And so his father left him a a large"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "safe that he said, \"Well, I had to get"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "my Navy Seal buddy over here with some"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "C4 and they blew the hinges off.\" And"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "you can see where they blew the damn"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "hinges off. I said, \"Holy shit.\" And"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "inside were Air Force documents with,"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "you know, discraft and and a lot of"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "technical terms in German, which I"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "thought was interesting. And he said,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "\"These were from"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "58 to 63, I think.\" And the dates were"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "on them. And I've recognized the terms,"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "you know, vortex compression, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "plasma accelerator, you know, uh, zero,"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "you know, 0 point gravitational field,"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "you know, all this stuff. And the"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "schematic had an Air Force serial"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "number. And we were just flipping"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "through them, hundreds of them. Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "these looked a lot like the German"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Honibu ones, the VR saucers. You know,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "three maneuvering nodes underneath, you"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "know, powdered quartz with monotomic"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "gold and insulators, you know, torsion"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "field maneuvering nodes that we know"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "now. I figured that out. I I actually"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "sketched that out. TR3B black triangle,"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "how it worked with the plasma ring and"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "the three nodes with monotomic gold and"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "powdered quartz to Chris Millan, you"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "know, he's like, \"Oh, wow. You and Tom"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Del Long are into the wild stuff.\""}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "I just shook my head and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "\"Okay, whatever.\""}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "But atomic weapons, and I'm sure you"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "know this, Oppenheimer was famous for"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "saying, \"I have become death, the the"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "destroyer of worlds.\""}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": ">> Well, that's from the Vic texts."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": ">> Yeah. And what he found out from the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Vidic test that the Ananbe SS and all"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "those Tula society and everyone else and"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "all the societies knew and Rudolfph"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Steiner and Gerf probably knew the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Theosophists was that when you light off"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "a nuclear weapon of a certain yield, it"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "not only affects the local battlefield"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "at hand, but it rips through several"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "dimensions of the universe, the local"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "universe, and you get additional"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "casualties."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "And that's why when we started, you"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "know, the the Germans tested one in the"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Baltic in October of 44. I think that's"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "was true. The Navy did the Zinser report"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "on it. We go through these yuga cycles."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> Mhm. And all of a sudden it's like"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Atlantis again where we're starting to"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "do uh you know uh material science you"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "know uh regressive you know actions you"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "know chimera construction with DNA"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "atomic weapons again and scalar and and"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "and you know free energy weapons which"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "can crack the earth in half."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": ">> Dangerous stuff."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": ">> Dangerous stuff. You know as you said"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "firecrackers but it's more than"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "firecrackers. These kids are playing"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "with C4 and they're three years old."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. They're three-year-olds"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "playing with C4."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> Chunks of it as big as this table, you"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "know, enough to blow up an entire house."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": ">> You know, it's it's incredibly"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "dangerous. And so Oenheimer knew that."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "And the other person that worked with"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Oppenheimer at the Rad Lab at MIT, not"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "only was Vanavar Bush, he was big- time"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "UFO file, was John G. Trump, the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "president's uncle."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": ">> Correct. So that's how President Trump"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "knew a lot about all this that we're"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "talking about. It's because his uncle"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "and he were close and his uncle was read"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "in along with Vanavar Bush and"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "Oppenheimer and everybody on the Foo"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "Fighter file as it was known back then"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "and the German atomic program, our"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "atomic program, the Clyron 2 scalar"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "weaponry, radar research, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "all that stuff at the RAD lab. That was"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "the area 51, you know, if you at MIT"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "where the eggheheads were. But right"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "field in Ohio was the place in those"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "days. But that's something every"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "American should understand is John G."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Trump because a lot of his physics work"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "is still classified."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:13", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> And why?"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": ">> Right. Yes."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": ">> I'm of the opinion they're given a very"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "thin file to work on. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Chris and I have met. We've talked about"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "all this stuff. Um I think the TTSA"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "program was a little goofy with Tom"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Dong. I don't know what you know how put"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "off was want you know soliciting me for"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "funds for his quantum communication"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "thing which I think the Navy has had for"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "30 years. Um so there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "disconnects going on and of course"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "they've left that TTS program and I"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "don't blame them."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": ">> Uh I think it was a [ __ ] show"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> and uh some type of CIA you know quasi"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "scop something and I don't think anybody"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "was really excited about it. Uh, I was a"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "little hard on him and I I will because"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "I was expecting much more disclosure"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "after 4 years of this. And when they say"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "this is a mystery we need to solve,"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that is not true. As you and I know, the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "US military, especially the Navy, has"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "reams of information on every shape of"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "craft, where it's from, who's driving"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "it, what they're up to, you know, forget"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "it. This has been going on for 70 years."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "Uh the military industrial complex is"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "not stupid. Neither is all the branches"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "of the military. They know exactly"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "what's going on. And this tic tac, the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "word is it's Loheed Martin. It's the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "successor to the TR3G"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "black triangle model, you know. And of"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "course, there are stories by Charles"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Hall that the uh tall white ETSs out at"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "the Indian Springs at S4 and the Nellis"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "range uh had these lo and behold, these"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "white tic tac looking things that they"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "used as buses. And so I'm thinking, aha,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "maybe there's a connection there and"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "maybe that validates some of his story."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "And so when you start piecing all this"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "together, you know, you know, I'm glad"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "that they're doing something, but it's,"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "you know, Alzando just will talk the"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "bark off a tree. He goes in circles."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "He's a great counter intelligence guy."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "I'd love to get into debate with him,"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "but of course that's never going to"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "happen. Um, you know, it's I think Chris"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "means well. I I really do. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "he's one of these guys, you know, that's"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "going around here, I'm going to fool the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "public and get paid for it. He doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "need the money. I don't need money. We"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "don't need fame or money. That's the"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "last thing a Melon wants. I'm telling"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "you. Uh we're very private as a family."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "I I can pretty much guarantee you that"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "his brother was in the press a little"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "bit, but you know, I think he he sees"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "this as a patriotic job. I think he"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "believes that that report is genuine and"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "there's maybe not much more and that"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "that he's okay with this is what I'm"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "allowed to talk about and the rest of it"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "is national security and that cannot be"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "talked about. They've lied by omission"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "and when they say it's a mystery that's"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "that's a lie. Okay, sorry but that you"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "know I'm not on board with that and that"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "you know but but they have to know"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "that's a lie,"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> right? So they they do and I I think you"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "know it's obvious. So you know that's"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "why I'm giving this interview with you"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "today. I mean I've had enough uh of"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "that. I had enough with my dad. You know"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "was he a liaison to Majestic 12 as a"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "magic member? Probably. You know he"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "probably had two pages of the UFO file."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "You know don't worry about the rest of"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "it. Just need two pages are all you"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "need. Okay. Yes sir. You know and Chris"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "is going yes sir too. Whatever factions"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "in the Pentagon as you know everything"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "is factions. whatever factions they"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "represent. It's like, well, we want to"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "have disclosure,"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "but not not really real disclosure. And"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "so they're they're slowing everything"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "down. I don't understand why Chris is"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "involved either, except in my opinion."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "This is just me. I think there's a"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "reason they picked a melon because we've"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "had other families. This is a tradition"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "in our family."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "You know, as you said, the melons were"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "the first family of intelligence. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:24", "text": ">> Well, I agree with that from my, you"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "know, the people that I've talked to. U"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "that will go along with, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "need to do this for the good of the"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "country. You know, yes, you got to lie"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "and do whatever you have to do, but you"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "know, this is what we need to do. And"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "they'll just do it."}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": ">> And um you know, I'm I'm a private"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "citizen. I've never worked for the"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "government or the military. I But I you"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "know, I'm not going to get up there. I"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "mean, I'm not going to, you know, stay"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "silent when members of my family lie to"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "the American people. I won't do that."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "It's one thing for my dad, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "the old days to get up there and do some"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "mild fibs about, you know, highways."}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "This is not you're you're messing around"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "with the survival capability of the"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "human race."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": ">> I mean, I'm not that's not an"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "overstatement,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": ">> This is deadly serious. It's not funny."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "were sort of half joking, but I thought"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "you were somewhat serious that you said,"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "you know, a lot of my family are"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "fascists or were fascists, fascist"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "sympathizers, and you talk about that a"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "little bit, even though it's a little"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "bit uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> There's no doubt. I mean, Andrew Melon"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "was upfront about it. He was uh uh"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "secretary of the treasury uh under"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "Harding and Hoover. Uh he was ambassador"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "to the court of St. James in 1931, a"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "good friend of the royal family. That's"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "where this melon royal family thing uh"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "connection comes in. Uh his outdated"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "policies with Rockefeller, Morgan,"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Carnegie, DuPont, you know, that made"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "the Great Depression much worse. I"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "believe I've also heard that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "he was uh heavily invested in DuPont's"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "nylon, which came around in the late30s"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "for naval rope. And of course, hemp and"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "marijuana were made strategic materials"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "and therefore illegal. Of course, it was"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "a war on consciousness, too. Oh, we"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "don't want people smoking those jazz"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "cigarettes, you know, that would be bad,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "you know. And so, you know, and and of"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "course their dealings with Sullivan and"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "Cromwell on Wall Street, the Dulles"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "brothers, John Foster Dulles and Allen"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "Dulles. Oh, invest in Nazi Germany. You"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "know, Hitler's a great guy. He's a"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Republican. Don't worry about it. You'll"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "make lots of money. And then Standard"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "Oil, you know, through Straw Man in"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "Portugal, all during the war. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "business thrives during war. You know"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "that it's a racket. And so, you know, my"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "grandfather wasn't the industrialist"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "kind of war propheteer that Andrew was,"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "but he was more into the mystic"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "intelligence side for sure. And if"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "you're bottom line brass tax, if you're"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "on the CFR with Allen Dulles, you're in"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "the trail commission, you're on the"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "Jason Society, you're scrolling key at"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "Yale, which scrolling key and the the"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "skull and bones are directly connected"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "to the Tula Society of Germany and the"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Vril Society. Um, and you're a knight of"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "the or order Order of Orange Nassau."}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "You've got a KBE from the Queen. You"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "know, my dad does, too. Um, you're not a"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "friend of the common American. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "you're just not. You're a very, you"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "know, neocon ultra-conservative. You"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "know, I don't buy this whole, yes, he"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "was a gentleman horse racer. You know,"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "he had a racing team of stables. He he"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "would, you know, donated the National"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "Gallery, the East Wing. His father"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "donated the other National Gallery. You"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "know, these are things they did in my"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "opinion so that the American people"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "would put a gold wreath on their heads"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "and go, \"What great oligarchs these guys"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "are, billionaires, oligarchs, see what"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "great things they do.\" Now, that's a"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "great thing to do to donate an art"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "museum, but it's a great cover story. I"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "mean, Andrew Melon had intimate dealings"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "with Halmar Shocked, who was Hitler's"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "private banker, and so did Sullivan and"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Cromwell. I mean, this is this is dirty,"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "nasty history and uh it doesn't make I"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "don't I mean, it took me years really to"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "gather all the intelligence bits and to"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "come up, you know, a lot of it I'm"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "connecting dots on my own, but they make"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "sense to me given my German history and"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "the history of the military-industrial"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "complex and everything and why the"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Melons are so active still"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "and you know, secrecy and big money and"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "these big American families, some call"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "them the committ of 300."}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": ">> That's probably a loose term, but you"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "know, I've never heard it, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "it makes sense to me."}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": ">> Yeah, I've had that confirmed that it's"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "it is a committee around 300 that are"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "involved in"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> in these operations. And it's not just"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "extraterrestrial UFO. It's a whole lot"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "of aspects of technology, finance,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "global, geopolitical."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "my friend who was an ONI Navy captain,"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "he we had a dinner one night and he"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "said, you know, I said, 'What can you"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "tell me? And he spent 30 years in the O"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "and he said, 'Well, you know, we're"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "pretty proud of our satellites. You"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "know, we're competing with the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "and they're twoman satellites. We've got"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "our own twoman satellites. I"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "interesting. And they, you know, they"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "have scalar weaponry. And he was, well,"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "I can't comment to that. You know, more"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "wine, more wine. And he said, uh, I"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "said, tell me about the your tracking"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "systems. And he says, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "you know, that's that's I love that.\""}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "He's like, \"We can track those bastards,"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "UAP, UFOs, punching in and out super"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "luminal, and we can track them 25 miles"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "under the Earth.\""}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": ">> Under the Earth or the ocean."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": ">> And tell me a little bit about Mount"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "Weather. I you use that. I think a lot"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "of people don't know why that was"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "important at that time."}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "The official narrative is that Mount"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "Weather was built in the Blue Ridge uh"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "during the Kennedy administration as a"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "continuence of government cog"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:08", "text": ">> and I think it still is. Um"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "my dad's been down under there um my dad"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "also tells me about the high-speed train"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "they have because during 911 he told me"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "that I said because I was out of touch"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "of him 5 days he said well they had us"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "out DC to an undisclosed location. It"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "wasn't Mount Weather. It was in West"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "Virginia in seven minutes. And I said,"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "\"Oh, is that the mag lev train that goes"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "Mach 2 in a vacuum tube?\" And how'd you"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "know that? And my dad always wonders how"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "I know this stuff. But Mount Weather, um"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "the rumors are that it goes down, you"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "know, probably a mile or two down to the"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "sub shuttle system and and connects to"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "other deep underground military bases."}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "why else it's in the Blue Ridge in that"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "lo specific location. I'm not sure. Um"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "but uh it's a top secret facility. It's"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "still a very active and expanding. And"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "if they're expanding on the surface, as"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "you know, they're probably expanding"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "10fold beneath the surface."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": ">> Right. Correct. Y had your grandfather"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "Paul Melon been in Mount Weather?"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:10", "text": ">> Oh, I'm sure. But I he never told me"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": ">> Right. Um,"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "I don't remember that as part of our"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "conversation, but certainly that's all"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "connected with his jet strips and his"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "meetings and and Mount Weather. You"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "know, these are all connected things."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "You know, for all I know, there's a"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "tunnel from his farm to Mount Weather. I"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "mean, I have no idea, but it wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "wouldn't surprise me if that were true."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": ">> Um, and I I don't take pleasure in any"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "of this. This this family history is"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "very disturbing and and actually"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "disheartening for"}]

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And this we have from"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "an Air Force intelligence guy who was"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the principal investigator. You'll see"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "his clip later talking about the fact"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "that he debriefed the pilots of this and"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "what happened. As you know, the people"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "underneath this object when it was out"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "of control were irradiated and were"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "extremely very sick. Had to be"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "hospitalized. One of the famous cases in"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "1980. Now, what happened is that when"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "this occurred, they couldn't get the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "extraterrestrial energy power plant to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "work. So they put on foolishly a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "portable nuclear power plant on this"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "thing and they were test flying it out"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "of the Nevada test range, Area 51. By"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "the way, nobody calls it that, but"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "people don't know what's out there. And"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "it was being flown to a base in Texas."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "It went out of control outside Houston,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Huffman, Texas, I believe it was, and it"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "came down and irdiated and actually"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "irdiated the land there. It actually"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "that whole road had to be repaved"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "clandestinely."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Now the public was left to believe this"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "was you know the aliens came down and"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "poisoned everybody or they didn't say"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "they were happy for people to reach and"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "leap to these conclusions. In reality"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "this we have now proof and testimony"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "from the principal investigator for the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "air force who debriefed the four pilots"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "on this humans. And that object my"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "friend was test flown by humans but it"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "was extraterrestrial. So, this is a"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "hybrid case where you have an"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "extraterrestrial air form and systems,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "but the power energy system, they"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "couldn't quite get to work. They put"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "this nuclear power plant on it. It had a"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "filter or some some problem with"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "malfunction, started spewing this stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "uh out to these poor victims who have"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "never been compensated. In fact, the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "case went to court. The judge threw it"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "out because the government said, \"We"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "don't know what this is. We had nothing"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "to do with it.\" But the truth is, they"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "weren't lying. The government, the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "government, people talking about the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "government, which government, who in the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "government, the nature of an"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "unacknowledged special access project"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "like this is that if the secretary of"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "defense doesn't know about it and the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "director of the CIA isn't read into it"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "and they're lying to the president about"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "it, do you think the public information"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "officer or the case officer for an Air"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Force base near Houston is going to know"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "what the hell this was? No. So, they're"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "not lying. This is plausible deniability"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "because since they don't know, they can"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "testify under oath. This wasn't ours. We"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "know nothing about this. Now we know for"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "a fact and we have the recorded video"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "testimony of the Air Force Office of"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Special Investigations"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "principal investigator on this Richard"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Dodie who is a master of disinformation"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "in his career but is coming clean on"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "some of this. Um so next what we're"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "going to see are a series of schematics"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and cases of over the years uh very"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "interesting. This is 1956"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "sort of a domed object with these"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "underneath. This was a a man-made"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "uh anti-gravity vehicle uh from the 50s"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "that was seen and we can go to the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "drawing of it. very good, excellent"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "illustrations."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "U"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "and you know a ve a very well doumented"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "case. I'm going to go through a number"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "of these examples. Next,"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "this is one from New Zealand, our"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "friends from down under. Uh this was"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "also a man-made object. Uh the date on"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "this uh it's listed somewhere below"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "there. Um I believe it was in the 50s."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "And that object, a very well doumented"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "case occurred and uh someone came out"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "and was it was a human in sort of an"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "astronaut suit. But this I believe it's"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "1959."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "here we are. Yeah. Lenheim, New Zealand."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "It had these flames. So it had a"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "combination of anti-gravity and also"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "other types of energy systems. And"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "people say, \"Oh, this is from New"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Zealand.\" I said, \"Oh, yeah. 1959.\""}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Next,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "we're going to run through a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "these quickly. Okay, next."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "This is a really interesting one. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "again, the the dates. This was 1966."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Love the Mustang. And this is an object"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "that came in and, uh, for some reason,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "landed malfunction."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "uh another early prototype of a man-made"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "uh electrogravit meaning anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "high voltage system and it uh rose up uh"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "and took off like a spark off a grinder"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "is how it was described. Um but you can"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "see there are some components of it from"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "conventional aerospace aircraft on the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "front the bubble. Uh but this was again"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "it sort of had a high drilling whining"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "sound as it took off and was gone. And"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "this is man-made 1966."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Next, and this is very similar to some"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "of the tic tac things. It's a got an arc"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "on it. Uh I think this was uh in what"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "date was this? This is a"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "20 uh well, no, not 2017. That's a uh"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "not sure the date. Anyway, uh but a very"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "interesting object reminiscent of of"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "some of the tic tac and other objects."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "We have a number of videos of these"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "canister and cylinder objects. This was"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "seen in enough detail and you can see"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "the rivets. You can see the detail. An"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicle is seamless,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "has no parts like that, has no welds."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Those when you see those, my friends,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "those are not extraterrestrial. Those"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "are man-made. And there are a series of"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "generations of these that have been"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "rolled out um since the 50s"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "operationally"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "they were studied before then. Next,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "this is a really interesting one. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "again, this 1972, so we're talking"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "almost 50 years ago. It looks like a an"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "iron with this rectangular object on it."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Um that was seen uh and multiple"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "witnesses. Again, this is a man-made"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "uh platform, a silent electrodetic."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Next,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "and this is a really interesting one."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "This is from the 72. Uh it has these"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "sort of flaming uh energy out of the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "rear of it and a bubble. Another one"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "from that's man-made. I don't forget"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "which city this was over. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> Venezuela."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> Yeah, Venezuela. People say, \"Really,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "these other countries?\" Oh, yes. All"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "over the world. I mean, these these"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "operations are not just out of remote"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "places like Area 51. So, they have these"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "facilities all over the world, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "Alice Springs here and there. U and"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "although and and they can go anywhere"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "very quickly because they're not using"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "jets and rockets because even our most"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "you know really extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "craft may get to anywhere in the world"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "in a couple hours. These don't take that"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "long. So uh those have been experimented"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "with in different shapes, forms and"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "sizes. Many of them are based on"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "acquired"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicles that we have"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "shot down and studied and then"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "experimented with the airframe and the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "propulsion and energy systems, the"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "flaming ellipse. Next,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "this is an interesting one. Uh this is"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "from uh 1980s. I'm just taking you in"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "chronological order. Number one, uh"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "there are a lot of objects that are sort"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "of rectangular or domed rectangles,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "totally silent, can float over the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "landscape. Uh the many of the objects"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "we'll get to in a moment and seen the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Hudson Valley back the in the 80s 90s"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "were those kinds of objects. These are"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "again electromagnetto gravitics. These"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "are pop culture, anti-gravity, and"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "different versions of them, different"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "airframes, different experimental types,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "and many of them have been deliberately"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "flown over populated areas to prompt a"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "UFO sighting, but make people think that"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "they are the extraterrestrial ones. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "you have two things going on"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "simultaneously. actual extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "vehicles and the ones that are made by"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "clandestine uh aerospace and the black"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "budget funding in the uncknowledged"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "special access projects the deep black"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "world of engineering. Next"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "I mean all these cases each look we have"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "hundreds and hundreds this is this would"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "go on for days if we were going but"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "these are very interesting excellent"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "drawings. Now this case of course I was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "very involved with um as you know this"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "is Japan Japan Airlines case of uh 747"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "going over Alaska and we can go up and"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "the pilot had this massive uh vehicle"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "come forward. This is a real one. Let's"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "look at it. Can you scroll?"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "Uh there's a wonderful schematic of what"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "the pilot saw. It was a large seamless"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "almost like walnutshaped object,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "massive. Um that was I guess didn't make"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "it into the show slides. Sorry. That was"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "uh the Japan Airlines case. That's one"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "of the disclosure witnesses as you know"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "was uh Mr. Callahan and he was the chief"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "FAA"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "uh person in charge of accidents and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "incidents when this occurred during the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Reagan years. And he actually has handed"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "to us and I have the original radar"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "films, chick tracings, not a copy, the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "originals. We have them. And the Japan"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Airlines pilot encountered this object"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "and it would be, you know, this part of"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "the sky at one second and a couple"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "sweeps of the radar or one sweep it'd be"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "in another direction altogether. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "pilot, the Japanese pilot said,"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "described it, it was actually on"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "military radar, on board, visually seen,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "and civilian radar. So this got kicked"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "up to the highest level of the FAA. And"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "at that meeting, if you remember, the"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "disclosure project, the CIA came in and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "and said, \"We're going to confiscate all"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "of the data on this.\" And they had just"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "stacks and stacks of digital data on"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "this case. And so they had to give it"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "up. And Mr. Callahan says, \"Yeah, okay."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "We'll give it to you.\" Turns out those"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "were copies. He kept the originals and"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "when he left the AA FAA, he took them"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "and we have them. True. Okay. So, next,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "this isn't very interesting. A"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "pyramid-shaped object or kind of a model"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "similar to to it here. Um, now this has"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "all kinds of tubes and structures on the"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "bottom. And uh, what's interesting, this"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "is 19 94."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "There are extraterrestrial vehicles"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "uh, that are pyramid shaped, but there"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "are also man-made ones that they've made"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "to look like them. So, they're copycat."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "You see what they're doing? So, it's"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "like the old commercial."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Is it real or is it Memorex? So, is this"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "the only way I'm miked? So, we probably"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "need to have people handing me these"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "these models. If I can have an assistant"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "there and then hand off here. There you"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": ">> Thank you. So, here's to"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Um, this is another This is a great one."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "I like this one because we may have this"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "is also in England 1990. And this one is"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "great because it has if you look at the"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "underside there are the girders and the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "structures and they're even wellmarked."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Now of course this is the triangular and"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "the people under it could see that and"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "could see the light in the center and"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the three on the end. that is man-made"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "that is an anti-grav"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "object and we have many people who are"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "have been in the aerospace classified"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "projects who have described these and"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "how they operate and so we have massive"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "files on these sort of different kinds"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "of triangles. Now,"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "just to make things more complex because"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "the world is complex,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "there are extraterrestrial vehicles that"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "are triangular and there are saucer"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "shaped and that are other weird shapes."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "So, to make things complicated here, you"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "how are you going to know? Well, you got"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "to be close enough to it to see. And if"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "you can't see the the superructure"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "detail, you're not going to know whether"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "it's extraterrestrial or not. But I I'll"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "give you these few hints. The ET ones"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "are not manufactured by digging stuff up"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "and soldering things together and what"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "have you. That's not how they"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "manufacture."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "They are doing it through a frequency"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "sonic resonance manufacturing that pulls"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "from a template an object in its"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "entirety"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "as a piece from the elementals let's"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "call it of spaceime the foundation of"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "energy of spacetime and it comes into 3D"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "like 3D printing but for a whole"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "spacecraft but not putting plastic"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "molding injectors in but it being"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "brought from the finest foundation of"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "energy not only the zero point but"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "beyond that even transdimensionally. So"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "this is transdimensional"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "manufacturing. We don't have time to go"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "into this. We'll go into it more this"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "week for for for everyone."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "And then this one again this is a very"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "interesting one. This is the very famous"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "uh Phoenix Lights one. Who was here for"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "that? Anybody? I was. So there are a"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "couple events that happened then and I"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "we we have had both ET vehicles"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "then piggybacked on man-made events and"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "this is really confusing because once"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "there's something that really happens"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "demonstrabably"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "that is a sighting or an event"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "they will then put in up objects and and"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "have things occur that are the man-made"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "ones to confuse people and they'll even"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "do other decoys. So, drop flares, all"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "kinds of things. So when I was here"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "in March of 1997, I flew in on an"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "airline and as I was doing final"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "approach into Sky Harbor Airport."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "I did the C5 protocols and asked the"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "ETSs to do something that would be very"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "definitive that night or while I was"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "there because we were at a digital lab"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "that was run by an intelligence group"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "and we were getting the best photos and"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "videos that we could for the whole"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "planet for the congressional briefings"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "in April of 1997. That's why I was here."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "And then a few hours later, this whole"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "event happened, Phoenix Lights, and"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "there were a lot of things that were"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "coming out of the South Mountains last"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "November when we were here for the Close"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Encounters of the Fifth Time premiere."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "We did a hike up there and came down at"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "sunset and an object dropped"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "materialized right over."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "You saw a couple of people who are my uh"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "friends here with me and saw it. So you"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "have both phenomena happening and this"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "is the problem. We're people are going"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "to say it's all man-made, it's all"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "extraterrestrial. No, but we need to get"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "another layer of understanding here and"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "particularly any important thing that"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "happens by definition is going to be"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "inundated with a cover story and where"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "they're going to deceive people from the"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "real over to the staged the DDT, let's"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "call it. So these these are more the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "triangular one. This is a great one."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "This is 1989 in Belgium that you can see"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "all the tubes and structures underneath"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "of the Belgian cases. So this was this"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "particular one was uh very much a"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "man-made one. Again this is global."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Don't think you have to think this"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "transnational group that runs these"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "uncknowledged special access projects"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "clandestine organization is global. They"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "don't think of international. They're"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "transnational and have been at least"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "since the 60s."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "And so here's another one. Very"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "interesting. Um, again, this is from"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "Missouri. A little different from the uh"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "the ones that you can see the the"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "girders and the welds on the side. I"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "hope you can see that. That's the camera"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "and the people in the webinar. And and"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "these these are also well-known"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "platforms. You can basically once you"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "get your lifter system in place that"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "causes mass cancellation, you can create"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "any kind of air structure around it. And"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "it doesn't matter if it's aerodynamic or"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "not because the way it moves, it moves,"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "let's say, the molecules of air around"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "it. So it's basically moving an"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "electromagnetic field effect. So there's"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "no resistance and there is no sonic"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "boom. That's man-made. We've had it for"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "decades."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Is this too much? I'm just trying to run"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "through these. This is to give you just"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "a sense of all the different types and"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "structures that we know have been"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "man-made objects, various different some"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "of them are kind of hybrids. They'll"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "have some conventional propulsion as"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "well as electrogravetic"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "um different shapes and they all have"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "structural superructure components that"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "are clearly a man-made machine, not an"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "interstellar"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "vehicle."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "And this is one of my favorite."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "I love this one because this one is um"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "this is from Southern Illinois in 2000,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "not that long ago. Um and it's it's just"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "like a ranch house with the pen but but"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "it's like a how Midwestern um and it's"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "it's this object or totally"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "non-erodynamic silent floating some"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "you'll hear a transformer buzzing sound"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "often from these and a similar"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "rectangular ones were some years ago uh"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "in I think it was in the 1990s were in"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "it was near where there was a"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "e systems"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "facility. And these were put up and"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "engaged in um they they went from animal"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "mutilations being staged by clandestine"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "human organizations to these were doing"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "human vivisections and killing humans."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "But of course they wanted everyone to"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "believe the aliens were doing"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "vivisections on people. No, it wasn't."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "it was our sociopaths in this"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "organization."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "So, and here's another, this is a great"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "one. Uh, this is, uh, from 1983, Hudson"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "Valley, very famous cases. Many, many"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "witnesses to these uh, transformer"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "sounding objects and underneath when"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "they were closed, you can see super"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "structure and tubes and other things."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "That is not extraterrestrial."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "Now, have there been extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "vehicles of boomerang and other shapes?"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "But where do you think they get the"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "idea? And also, how else do you create a"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "false flag? You have to create"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "structures that would be believably not"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "aerodynamic."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "So, and this is another one. This is"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "another boomerang shape from the Hudson"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "Valley. Uh there's a many several years"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "of these occurring. You've all heard"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "these cases. You see underneath the the"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "super structure and the and the aspects"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "of it. And you know these are are"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "it looks a little bit like the B2"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "stealth but this is different. Again"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "they were silent unless you were close"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "enough you could hear this sort of"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "electronic transformer sort of sound"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "from it."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "And another one. So I just wanted to run"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "through these. They're all fun. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "I I want to thank uh the people who have"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "worked hard to create these from the"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "reports and the photographs that exist."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "This one actually you could see up in"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "it. The people looked in and they could"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "see other structures and platforms"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "inside under the center of this"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "particular not an equilateral triangle"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "isles. Is that correct? Yep. So those"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "are the reason I wanted to show you that"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "is sort of to give you a sense of the"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "variety, the type of craft. Um I don't"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "know if we had any other pictures. I"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "think maybe some of them got dropped,"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "but uh but it's enough to give you a"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "sense of what we have. Uh now the"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "archive on this is very large. And I"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "want to pay homage to Mark McCandish who"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "did the drawings. We want to bring up"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Mark McCallish's um uh work and the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "schematics. Now, this is based on uh a"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "very interesting event that happened at"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "the Norton Air Force Base, which has now"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "been decommissioned in Southern"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "California. And there were a number of"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "people, you know, a lot of people talk"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "about, well, you know, Brad Sorenson and"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "some other people are there. There's a"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "man on my team who was is very close"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "friends with Frank Kluchi, Secretary of"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Defense at the time."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "um I think he calls him Uncle Frank who"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "was there. Senator Cranston was there"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "because they were read into these"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "unagnowledged projects and this was a"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "kind of like an air show and it was sort"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "of a sales pitch going on and you see"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "these three objects. Uh there was the"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "smaller one, a medium one and a big one."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "You know, baby bear, mama bear, and papa"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "bear as one guy who was there called it."}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "And these were from uh around the"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "components in them were apparently from"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "the between 1950 late 50s early 60s. But"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "these particular models had obviously"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "been used quite a bit and had gone in"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "the solar system various places in our"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "solar system not the whole universe but"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "our solar system back then I long before"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "we landed on the moon. Now, what's"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "interesting is that uh one of the people"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "who was there did an interview and and"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "shared some of the information and I'm"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "loathed to read to people, but this is"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "just so compelling. I I just want to"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "share this. I'm not going to say who"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "this was or how I got this recording"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "transcript, but it's very interesting."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "And he says, \"The small one was 20 ft."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "The next was 60 in diameter. The next"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "one maybe 120 ft.\" Uh it looked like it"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "was a the small one looked like personal"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "light speeded vehicle. It just boggles"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "my mind to think about it. And he said"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "that uh this one these objects didn't"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "require its own fuel source and they had"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "found a new fuel source that was"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "everywhere in the universe. It was a"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "wavelength frequency"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "that was on the order of 500 times the"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "speed of light. very important. It's"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "invisible. We can't feel it. They said"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "that everything in the universe is a"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "vibration. Light is just a resisted"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "vibration of this other force. It is it"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "is really fast vibrations or"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "frequencies. If you start with this"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "force that's 500 times the speed of"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "light and you resist it down, you get"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "gravity."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "Resist down more and you get magnetism."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "Then resist it down more and you get"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "light."}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Resist down and you get sound, heat,"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "etc. And down to things we really"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "recognize. Einstein and others could"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "only sense light. So thought that's the"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "fastest thing in the universe. That's"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "all we can clock. And they were dead"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "wrong that light is the fastest thing in"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "the universe."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "If you wanted to go to the moon, say,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "you'd point the upper video camera that"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "was on these objects and point it to"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "wherever you wanted to go and then you'd"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "point put the crosshairs on it. Then"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "you'd move the riostat, a lever on the"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "inside of the seat to add power or and"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "allow that power to be available and it"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "would go"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "and it goes on and on. Now, why is this"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "important? because this was at an air"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "show in 1988 and there's more than one"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "witness to this by the way and we can"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "put up Mark McCannish's schematic of the"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "interior that was based on the"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "description and uh I want to honor Mark"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "McKish just recently last couple weeks"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "passed away but he was at the original"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "National Press Club event and he was"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "just a really smart courageous talented"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "aerospace illustrator who learned of"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "this uh and you can see some of the"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "detail and where the compartment would"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "be for the people. Um, according to some"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "people who were there, some of this"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "isn't exactly accurate, but it's a"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "pretty close rendition."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "And it's a very important uh piece of"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "history because that was the transition"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "between a Reagan administration and"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "George HW Bush, Papa Bush. And it was in"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "November of 1988. And they were trying"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "to get more funding for"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Star Wars, SDI, what's now called Space"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "Force, and classified aerospace"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "contracting for these unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "special access project systems."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "The reason this is all critically"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "important for you to understand is that"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "the people who are running these"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "projects want you to think, as I said"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "earlier, that nobody in the United"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "States has any knowledge of these"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "objects that they are now"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "euphemistically calling UAPs,"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "which is ludicrous, the term on the face"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "of it. I I don't use it except in a"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "ridiculing way because it's just"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "absolutely not that. But ultimately, if"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "you don't take my word for this and all"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "the data and all the witnesses, why"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "don't we listen to a guy named Ben Rich,"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "head of the Lockheed Skunk Works. And"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "Ben Rich had a friend that wrote to him,"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "John Andrews, and he said, uh, the topic"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "is UFOs. I believe there are lots of"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "UFOs. And I'm also teen to believe that"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "there are two categories. man-made UFOs"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "and extraterrestrial UFOs. And Ben Rich"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "says, \"Yes, I'm a believer in both"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "categories and I feel everything is"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "possible. Many of our man-made UFOs are"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "unfunded opportunities.\" So there's"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "funny underlining unfunded"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "opportunities. They're opportunities"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "that could could have been used for a"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "lot of great purposes. So this is dated"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "1986."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "And you know, Ben Rich was the head of"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "the Lockheed Skunk Works, was a very"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "renowned aerospace figure. And you"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "think, well, people who want I think"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "first of all, this is this is a document"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "and all this is stuff going needs to go"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "right to the Senate Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "Committee. We're we're planning to do a"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "closed briefing for them ahead of the"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "Director of National Intelligence. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "if the Director of National Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "dumps a bunch of falsehoods onto the"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "Senate Intelligence Committee, they're"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "going to have received all of this and"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "more that you're seeing. We don't have"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "time to go through all of it prior to"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "this is why this is very important. But"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "I'd like to invite a wonderful gentleman"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "up, Mr. Goodall. He's a renowned"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "aerospace illustrator and researcher. If"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "you would come up, he has a couple just"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "little he's a sort of surprise guest"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "here today. And I would welcome you to"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "share your story, that last conversation"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "that probably anyone had with Ben Rich."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "uh and also your little uh quick story"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "you had with the lady who had worked for"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "the National Security Agency."}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:45", "text": ">> Sure. I was I'm I've been a aviation"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "writer and aerospace historian I think"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "most my adult life. I'm 76 so it goes"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "for a long time but I had uh somewhere"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "along the line and it was probably"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "through John Andrews from Tesers that I"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "became"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "a pen pal if you want to call it that"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "with Ben Rich. He was Kelly Johnson's"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "right-hand man. And when Kelly Johnson"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "retired, the only person that could"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "really fill his shoes was Ben. And for"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "25 years, Ben and I spoke. He either"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "called me or I called him once a quarter"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "for 25 years. I could call him at"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "Skunkworks. June, his secretary, would"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "say, \"Just a second. I'll put you into"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "Mr. Rich.\" He'd be in a conference with"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "a room full of engineers. He put me on"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "speakerphone and we talked for 40"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "minutes, 45 minutes. But uh he was dying"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "of esophagical cancer. This is the the"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "mid 90s. He'd already retired from"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "Lockheed. And I tracked him down. He was"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "at USC Medical Center uh near the end of"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "his his life. And we were talking about"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "John Andrews and some other stuff. And"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "we started talking about UFOs."}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "And he said, \"Jim, we have things out in"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "the desert.\" And he wasn't referring to"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "Area 51, but said, \"We have things out"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "in the desert that's 50 years be beyond"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "what you and he was, you know, talking"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "directly to me, beyond what you can't"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "imagine.\""}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "And he said, \"If you've and if you've"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "seen movies like Star Trek or Star Wars,"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "we've been there, done that, or decided"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "it wasn't worth the effort.\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "\"Ben, you want to expand upon that?\" And"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "typical Ben response was, \"No.\" and hit"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "the nerve to die on me about 10 days"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "later."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": ">> Uh the other thing uh late last year I"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "think it was 2019 maybe it was 2020 and"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "this last two years has been sort of a"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "blur um on CN I'm not sure if it was CNN"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "but u Tucker Carlson on Fox announced"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "that the federal government had made"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "made a statement that we have uh"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "equipment that is"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "not of this earth. There was also a"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "government employee that said the same"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "thing. So I have a friend of mine who"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "works for the National Security Agency."}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "I knew her from Hawaii and she was in"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "Pine Gap, which is Alice Springs, which"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "is the middle of nowhere if you've ever"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "been to Australia. And I I sent her an"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "email. I said, \"You believe in UFOs?\""}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "And I mean, instantly I got a response"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "back. I said, \"No, why did you see one?\""}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "And I said, \"No.\" And then she came back"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "said, \"Well, I can't I can't go over it"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "on, you know, through electronic means."}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "Maybe one of these days we can sit down"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "face to face.\" They said, \"But they're"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "here.\" And that was your comment. Now,"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "she was she went from uh Pine Gap to"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "Guantanamo Bay, and now she's back in"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "Hawaii. And I hope to get to Hawaii"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "sometime this year and sit down with her"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "face to"}]

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The only way to get there, my"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "friends, is to understand consciousness"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "in its pure universal form, in its"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "transcendent form that goes beyond the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "human. So, it's transhuman, let's say."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "[music] So, it goes beyond just your"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "human identity. But I always tell"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "people, you know, uniting the world"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "around that we're all human would have"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "been a great idea around World War I,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "right? But we blew through that over 100"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "years ago. [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Now because of our proliferation of"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "weapons of mass destruction, nuclear"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "weapons, developing reverse engineered"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "[music] technologies to target ET craft,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "downing them, killing their personnel."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Some of them are still [music] living"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "underground, trapped as prisoners,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "which people who are special forces call"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "them refugees. [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Not quite. Uh hardly refugees. They're"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "they're prisoners of of [music] this"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "horrific operation. And"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "how are we going to go from this state"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "of the world to the only way the world"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "can survive?"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "It is at its root a deeply spiritual"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "conscious consciousness realization. And"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "I I say spiritual as opposed to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "technically religious because while"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "within all religion is this teaching"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "about spirituality, unfortunately the"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "outer form of religion becomes a cause"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "of endless wars and conflict. If you"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "doubt it, turn on your TV and see what's"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "going on in the Middle East. And that's"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "been going on for [music] thousands of"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "years. 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It's"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "this consciousness. is this deep"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "understanding [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "of the essence of the conscious self."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "And I love that quote that says, \"He who"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "knows his true self has known God.\" So"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "they're not talking about your not"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "talking about me, Steve Greer, you"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Michael Ravens [music] over here. No,"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "we're talking about something that's"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "transcendent to that and yet is always"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "within us. It's the means."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Beautiful."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> It's the means whereby [music] we're"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "conscious and awake. It's how we have"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "our very being. It's been said that this"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "is so close to our [music] existence."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "It's like it's your life's vein. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "you don't even notice it. But if you"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "stop, this is the power of meditation."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "If you stop with that knowledge I just"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "shared and meditate and see the light of"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "consciousness and become deeper and"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "deeper and quiet centered in that then"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "you [music] realize that you your"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "individuality is simultaneously"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "the unbounded and that's [music] how you"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "can see remote places go to remote"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "places go to the future go to the past"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "why because consciousness"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "in its pure form [music] is not limited"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "by space or time which means it's"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "omnipresent across all points in space"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "and dimensions [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "beyond 3D as well as all points in time."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "So this is the ultimate exploration."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "You want to be an explorer and"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "adventurer, master your own"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "consciousness. realize what that"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "consciousness is and realize"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "[clears throat] it's not just yours that"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "you are sort of a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "expression of this great spirit of this"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "unbounded aspect. But when you connect"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "to that, which is not hard to do, people"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "make it difficult. It's not hard to do."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "And and once you learn that, you can be"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "driving down the road and do it and and"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "you see where the speed traps are with"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "the highway patrol."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "I do this a lot. I haven't had a ticket"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "in 50 years. Anyway, but um and if"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "you've driven, it's not because I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "always going slowly, [music] but um"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "anyway,"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": ">> it's one thing to understand this stuff"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "intellectually, which we which we need"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "[music] to. It's another thing to"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "actually experience it. 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And"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "[music] and the difference between the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "two, between understanding and"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "experience, it's like reading about sex"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "versus [music] actually having sex."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "That's always the example that I use"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "because it's it's visceral and people"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "can understand"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> how vast a difference that [music] is."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> So, um what is you know there's so many"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "different meditation techniques. Pardon?"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": ">> How tantric of you. Ex."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": ">> Exactly. Right. So uh what are you"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "there's so many meditation techniques"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "out there. There's a mantra, there's"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "following your breath, there's"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "visualization, there's chanting. [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "What is the best way to experience what"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "you're talking about?"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> The best is to first [music] understand"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "it, right? So knowledge is the greatest"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "purifier. If you don't know what it is"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "you're going to pursue, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "be just chaotically pursuing things that"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "aren't going to be effective. That's"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "step one. And most people skip over that"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "and go [music] straight to the forms of"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "meditation. No, you have to understand"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "what is the objective of meditation. And"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "I liken this here. The analogy I use is"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "is that at at the center of all of"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "existence, life,"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "space, time, matter, everything is this"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "pure unbounded field of conscious being."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "And let's say on Earth we have 8 billion"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "souls, 8 billion people. There's a spoke"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "for each one of us into that"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "unboundedness that's [music] within us."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "It's folded within us. But I think each"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "of those spokes are a little different."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "So I think the problem where you get"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "into chauvinism and the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "ignorance [music] is when someone has"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "their technique and bombastically says"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "one sizefits-all [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "and therefore everyone has to do it."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "This is the beginning of a cult. Right?"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "So unfortunately whether it's [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "organizations, meditation groups,"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "religions, most of them start out with"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "someone who understood this and then"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "lesser lights, I hate to say it, take it"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "[music] and turn it into a series of"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "enforced rituals that everyone has to do"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "identically [music] the same. Right? So"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "that is a principle I'm trying to get"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "across. Now within that there are"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "techniques and approaches that have"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "[music] been used for thousands of years"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "uh amongst humans that have a certain"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "efficaciousness. They [music] work um"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "and they're tried and true but I always"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "say you make them your own. So I teach"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "both a type of of Zen Buddhist breathing"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "meditation, a mantra meditation,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "visualization and remote viewing. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "we do sometimes some kinds of [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "chanting or musical things."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Now [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "I would say to people what I will share"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "what I know has worked with lots of"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "people. That's what we're going to do on"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "the ship April 6th to 12th. [music] is"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "what's some of this a couple of these"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "techniques are in the C5 contact app you"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "can get for your phone. There's some"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "long meditations in there. But then I"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "tell people"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "don't don't do just exactly what I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "doing. Make it [music] your own. So"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "customize it and make it something that"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "works for you. I remember teaching a"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "woman meditation. who was a medical"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "doctor back in the [music] early 90s in"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Los Angeles who was part of an early C5"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "team and she was internal medicine and"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "she learned meditation but then what she"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "found by she was a harp player harpist"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "uh you know part-time"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "but very good and she would the tones of"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "the chords [music] that she would hit"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "with her mind would put her into this"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "higher state of [music] consciousness"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "and she could remote view and she would"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "have all these amazing experiences and"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "it was playing the harp. But it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "just technically playing the harp. It"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "was conscious playing of the harp,"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "right? I know people [music] who have"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "been athletes like when I would do very"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "long mountain bike rides, which when"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "[music] I was since I was almost killed"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "16 months ago on a mountain bike. I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "not on those now. I think my family"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "would kill me if I got back on one."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "[music] But"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "but um I would I would be in this state"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "um going up these long 12 [music] mile"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "grades up in the mountains and I would"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "get into this rhythm and I would be"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "doing sort of a meditation [music] with"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "the breathing and the exercise and I"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "would have these amazing experiences. So"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "I know athletes who have [music] done"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "this as well. So you know there's there"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "if there are eight"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> the runner's high that I've heard about."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": ">> Yes. It's a bit of the runner's high"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "combined with being aware of the"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "consciousness"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> you know at the same time. Now of course"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "I had my eyes open. But even as a young"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "child I would practice walking on the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "beach at night with my eyes closed"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "meditating and sensing and seeing where"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "anything would be"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "even before I died. [music] You know, I"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "had my near-death experience when I was"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "17, but this was even before that."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Guess I was a strange child [music] that"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "way. But, um, never walked off a cliff."}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "But, so [clears throat] there are all"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "kinds of things you can do. And what I"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "tell people, every moment of every day"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "is an opportunity to engage the"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "conscious [music] mind, even if you're"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "working, and connect to that while"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "you're doing your task. And [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "this grows as you begin to sit in"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "meditation quietly and become familiar"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "with the pathway from [music] locality"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "your own ego and individual"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "consciousness to this quiet deep"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "expanded state that is universal."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "[music] But the more you travel that"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "path regularly and I think it should be"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "done couple three times a day regularly."}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "the more you do it [music] in terms of"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "uh you are creatures of habit, the the"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "mind and the consciousness [music] gets"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "entrained and it becomes easier and"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "easier. I liken this to like if you're"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "the first time you're driving to [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "some place that you've never been to and"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "there are a whole bunch of turns and"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "this and that. [music] It seems like it"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "takes forever and it's you you you might"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "miss the turns and then the second time"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "it's easier. The hundth time you do it,"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "you're not even thinking. It's almost"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "automaticity. you know you sort of"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "automatically can [music] get there. So"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "let's use that as an analogy for"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "conscious meditation practice. If you do"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "it regularly and frequently and daily"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "then over a period of time it [music]"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "opens an automaticity"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "a sort of automatic connection to that"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "state [music] that you can then begin to"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "access even while you're awake,"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "sleeping, driving, working in all"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "settings. So it's it's it's present and"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "if you need to it becomes unpreent that"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "mindfulness you can bring to mind"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "without going into the meditative state"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "but that's that's a process it's an"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "evolutionary process [music] so I think"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "that the you know and people say how"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "long does that take"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "it can take you one time or your whole"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "lifetime everyone's different the other"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "guidance I give on this is that's the"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "old saying as you [music] have faith so"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "shall shall your powers and blessings"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "be. And by faith here, I'm not referring"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "to a blind belief in something unproven."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "I'm talking about this affirmative"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "thought that [music] you can do it. You"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "believe you can do it. Now, I believe"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "this is the crux of most people's"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "failure in meditation."}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "They think that well I can do it or so"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "and so can do it or guru X can do it."}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "But they can't, right? and they diminish"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "themselves [music]"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "because we're taught that by having sort"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "of the idolatry of [music] spiritual"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "leaders. I'm not saying spiritual"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "leaders shouldn't have respect. I'm just"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "saying that we sort of give up all our"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "power to them. That's the problem with"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "the guru mindset. So [music]"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "what you really need to realize is that"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "whether it was very enlightened [music]"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "masters or Christ whoever they all said"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "whatever state I have attained so shall"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "you. You can too. Now you have to"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "believe that about yourself. [music] If"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "you don't believe you can, you won't."}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Right? 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So getting over your own"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "uh self-doubt um and [music] diminishing"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "of your own capabilities is key. And"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "what they have found you know in remote"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "viewing and also experiments with random"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "number generators you could take an"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "experienced meditator and they have an"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "effect in that but you could drag people"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "off the street. You know Dr."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:58", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": ">> Tar who who did a lot of the CIA remote"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "viewing program says we could pull"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "people off the street give them a few"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "just affirmations they could do it and"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "instructions [music] they'd sit and they"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "would do it as well as people who we've"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "been working with for a decade so I"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "think this is a very important thing to"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "realize [music] is that we sell"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "ourselves short right we all do this"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "typically uh I certainly did as a child"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "and you know until a certain point um"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "and and [music]"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "I think it helped that I died and had"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "that near-death experience and came"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "back. But um in an odd way, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "I'm on my 14th near-death experience"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "[music] after the last week. But anyway,"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "[laughter] almost died. Oh, it was two"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "weeks ago the day [music] I had that"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "rupture of my appendix."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "By the way, that was terrible. We got"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "the path report back. Oh my god. Miracle"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "I didn't die."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Well, to bring this [music] full circle,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "you know, when when uh when I first"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "started following your work many years"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "ago and waking up to the scale of the"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "cover [music] up and what has been"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "robbed from us, you know, my you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "it's it's very natural and I certainly"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "fell into it to just have tremendous"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "[music] hatred uh for the people who"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "have been keeping this a secret. that"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "[music] if you're, you know, if we're"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "being called to find oneness with"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "extraterrestrials that I guess we have"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "to find oneness with the people who have"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "been behind the cover up. [music]"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:26", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": ">> And the people who continue to be"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "disinformation agents out there and"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "listen, I'm very guilty, [music] just"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "look at my Twitter, of getting mad all"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "the time and being a low consciousness"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "jerk all the time. So, how how can we"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": ">> um [music] work to solve this problem"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "and fight disinformation"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "and [music] call out the people who are"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "lying"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> but still maintain that because this is"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "something I struggle with and I'm sure a"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "lot of people do. How can we maintain"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "[music] that commonality with them in"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "consciousness?"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": ">> The key still. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": ">> Yes. [music] It's a great question and I"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "[clears throat] I don't have a problem"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "with it because [music] I always say you"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "can walk and chew gum. All right? You"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "can walk and chew gum. So what's the"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "walking part? You can be in this state"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "of consciousness and [music] be doing it"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "for the right reasons for the earth, the"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "future of humanity, [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "etc. and be a warrior standing up to"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "wrong action, evildoers,"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "liars, misinformation, disinformation"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "operatives. But it doesn't mean that"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "you're not connecting that or [music] I"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "was asked this recently on a podcast."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "I [clears throat] have no uh hate for"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "the disinformation people out [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "there and people even who have done"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "terrible things to me and and people on"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "my team. I because it it's but I will"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "resist them. I will speak truth to"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "[music] power. But that also comes from"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "higher consciousness. But when the day"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "is done, the key thing is"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "they can they at a deep level you can be"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "forgiving. You don't forget you forgive."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Now a lot of this was sort of formative"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "in my childhood. I was think neglected"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "and abused and [music] starved and but"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "by the time I became a teenager well I"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "had my own apartment in high school and"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "then I learned to forgive my parents"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "both of them and to help them. Now I"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "have siblings who held on to that hatred"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "and whatnot to this day but it's"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "actually very liberating to forgive. So"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "you know to me one of the great things"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "is it's it's not hard to love. It's much"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "harder to forgive those who have wronged"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "you or the world or what have you. Now,"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "forgiving them doesn't mean giving them"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "a past to continue destroying the"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "planet, right? So, it's a balance, but"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "it but ultimately, and this is why I use"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "this term spirit warrior. [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "You're doing this for the benefit of the"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "world and the future and you can be"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "strong against those who are taking the"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "world, you know, over a cliff. But it"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "doesn't mean that you have to hate them."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "It doesn't mean you have to uh not have"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "the capacity to forgive them. [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "And this actually translates into"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "policy."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "So let's put a button alpha and omega"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "beginning and end here for this podcast."}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "One of the things I recommended and it's"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "very funny to go through our archive and"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "look at my [music] recommendations to"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "the Clinton administration in 9456."}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "They haven't changed in 30 years. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "it's not that I'm I'm not capable of any"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "sort of uh you know evolution of thought"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "but even then I said an eye for an eye"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "will leave the whole world blind [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "here. This is why the bill that got"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "killed in December of 23 that came out"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "of the Senate Intelligence com committee"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "unanimously and then [music] the Senate"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "overwhelmingly but was killed in the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "House had a safe harbor amnesty. Let's"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "call it forgiveness [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "part of it. That's what we're offering"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "now. It's in a sense everything you've"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "done can be you can be immunized and it"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "can be forgiven"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "like from a policy legal prosecution"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "point of view but you've got to come"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "clean. You've got to get on the right"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "[music] side of this. You have to"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "disclose everything. 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And"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "and and take it for God's sakes. It it's"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "being offered. Uh but that in a sense is"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "a [music] act of let's call it policy"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "forgiveness. It's a it's a legal"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "forgiveness, right? Pardon. [music] The"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "word pardon is used. It's not a"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "presidential pardon, but this is done,"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "by the way, in prosecutions all the time"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "where, [music] you know, people who"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "cooperate to help write a terrible wrong"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "are pardoned or given immunity"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "or forgiven, if you [music] want to use"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "that term, for whatever they've done so"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "long as they fully [music] cooperate. So"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "fully now, [clears throat] and that's"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "the requirement. So in a way uh that is"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "something that has always been part of"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "what we've recommended for two reasons."}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "One is"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "you know nothing is going to be good is"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "going to come out of just you know"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "trying to do a scorched earth [music]"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "policy. Number one. Number two, many of"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "the people who got trapped in that"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "system [music]"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "were innocent when they started,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "right, and then got pulled in to"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "increasingly"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "rogue and criminal operations. And by"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "the time they realized they were in"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "there, they were they were already had"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "and they knew that they could be, you"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "know, uh, blackmailed to stay on that"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "path. That's currently the case of a"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "number of very senior [music] operations"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "both corporate and intelligence I know"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "personally about. They can blackmail"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "[music] them. They they have them. So"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "here's what we do. Okay. Oh, that person"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "they have this on that person. They have"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "this dirt. Wipe it clean. Immunity."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "Forgiveness."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "Now they cooperate. [music] Right. Um"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "now there are people who don't agree"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "with that. They they really want to get"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "a pound of flesh out of some folks. And"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "look, there is a place for justice and"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "there is a place for that and even"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "retribution, but you got to be careful"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "with this because you're not like just"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "taking on a bunch of buffoons in the"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "Nuremberg trials, right? You're taking"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "on folks who have technologies reverse"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "[music] engineered from interstellar"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "vehicles that are thousands of years"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "very advanced and there's [music] no"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "point burning down the whole barn to get"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "rid of these rats, right? So, we have to"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "be [music] wise about this. Um, and this"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "is what I've been recommending for 30"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "plus years. So, I think [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "now it's actually being put into place."}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "[music] What's exciting is that it"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "literally is being put into place right"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "as we're speaking. um [music] which I"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "think is very good."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:56", "text": ">> [music]"}]

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Your non-disclosure agreement is"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "non-binding. You don't have to obey it"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "because the programs you were attached"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "to were themselves illegal and"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "unconstitutional. Your immunization,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "where you can never be prosecuted for"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "any of this, is contingent on full"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "disclosure of all information you"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "possess and recall."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "We have handed over a few dozen"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "whistleblowers that have come to and"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "through us uh over the last couple of"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "years. This has resulted in um"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "significant leads and the expansion"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "through their own investigation of many"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "other assets confirming both the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "conspiracy, the criminal activity,"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "uh wet works murders and things of this"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "sort related to UAP operations and cover"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "up. Uh we're at the point now where it's"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "there's a clear uh mandate to move this"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "forward fairly quickly in the coming"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "months. And I'm making I want to be very"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "careful in explaining this to people. It"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "may sound a little technical, but I want"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "everyone to hear it. And then I want you"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "to spread this all over the internet,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "particularly if you are in a network of"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "people who have been military,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "uh, JOCK, special forces, corporate,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "aerospace, or others, government"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "agencies that might have had anything to"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "do with this issue over the last uh, 70"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "years, 65 years. Why do I put that date"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "on it? It was in the late 1950s that we"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "can establish that the uh operations"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "dealing with UFOs were uh separated from"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "the control of the executive, the"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "president of the United States and also"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "from key oversight in the Congress."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Because of that, any activity from that"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "point on can be prosecuted"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "because when it's an ongoing conspiracy,"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "there is no uh"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "uh limits. Uh in other words, there"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "there's no uh what's the term that's"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "used? Statute of limitations. Normally a"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "statute of let's say if you've committed"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "robbery or some other crime there is a"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "statute of limitations not on murder but"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "on many others but when it's an ongoing"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "criminal enterprise the clock doesn't"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "stop right for that reason anybody with"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "information or who was involved 60 years"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "ago maybe they're in their 80s can come"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "forward um and if they have material"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "documents videos"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "physical all of it can be protected and"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "the people can be now fully immunized"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "but it's conditional. So let me be very"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "very clear on this. Your immunization"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "where you can never be prosecuted for"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "any of this is contingent on full"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "disclosure of all information you"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "possess and recall. names,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "places,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "code names of operations,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "project locations,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "everything. Anything withheld will"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "visiate terminate your immunity"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "agreement. So, I want to be very clear"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "on this. It means that you can't tell a"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "halftruth. You can't withhold"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "information. But if you're honest and"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "come forward with integrity, you'll be"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "completely protected."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Now, that is operational and I encourage"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "people if we're ever going to unravel"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "this and solve this problem for our"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "nation and for the world. Um, now's the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "time to do it. There's a window."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Obviously, it's dangerous. There have"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "been a number of threats and problems"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "that have occurred around what we're"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "doing. Um, there has been loss of life"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "over the last couple years. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "everybody knows what we've gone through"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "and I've gone through, but now is the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "time to move with elacrity and clarity."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "So, I'm putting this call out for people"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "to come forward. And it doesn't matter"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "how whether you're currently involved at"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "a a lower level or a higher level or"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "whether you were involved back decades"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "ago, it's all covered and you need to"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "come forward. Now, here's the flip side"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "of that. Because"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "in a conspiracy charge,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "the left hand doesn't have to know what"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "the right hand's doing. So, let's say"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "you were a special forces operator at"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "facility X, right? And if you go to our"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "briefing document and our archive,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "you'll see we have almost 160 sites"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "where these operations have been go"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "ongoing that we know about. And you"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "might have been a 20, 30 year old"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "person. You certainly thought that what"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "you were doing was legal, but it wasn't."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Here's the problem. Because you are"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "embedded unknowingly in an operation"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "like that. Technically, you're liable."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "There's a liability for having involved"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "in these programs. And particularly now"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "that it's being made known where I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "basically the public face of it to say"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "you can be immunized, you're you're"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "covered for anything that may have"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "happened or that you saw happen that you"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "didn't report and your slate is wiped"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "clean. But if you withhold information"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "that's later found you were involved,"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "this is a problem for for you"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "individually for that person. So um"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "because this has become that serious"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "where it has been concluded that there"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "are serious high crimes"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "uh that have occurred um this is the"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "time to come forward because there's a"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "clear pathway. Uh you can contact us at"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "drstephvengreer.com"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "and there on that website there's a a"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "toolbar for witnesses. You can hit it"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "contact us. You'll be kept in complete"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "confidentiality from the public unless"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "and until you want to go public. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "we will then hand that information to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "the people who can both protect you and"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "utilize your information to solve this"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "problem uh that has been ongoing for you"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "know 70 years. So that's uh a very big"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "development that's become more clarified"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "let's say and it's also become a more"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "robust effort uh over the last few"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "months and uh I would strongly encourage"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "people to network uh in your circles"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "family friends uh social media work what"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "have you to see if there are people who"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "have information who want to come"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "forward because they can be completely"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "immunized from anything that they saw"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "and didn't report which by the way is"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "also a crime uh or were part of"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "directly. So I think it's very important"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "for people to use this opportunity to"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "come forward and what we want this to be"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "is from a few dozen uh or maybe a"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "hundred or two prospective living people"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "that it grows to a few thousand all the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "way up the chain of command all the way"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "up. Um and that's how you do this. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the other thing that's very important is"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "that names, places, dates, code names of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "projects, all very important because"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "what you to unravel this keep in mind"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "the constitutional government of the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "United States until we started providing"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "very detailed information a few years"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "ago really didn't know"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "where the washroom was on this. They"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "didn't know the people, the most senior"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "people, for example, at Senate"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Intelligence and at the Pentagon I've"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "met with didn't know where these"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "subterranean facilities or dumb"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "underground bases are, deep underground"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "military bases. They didn't know about"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the NRO satellites that had been"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "weaponized with nutrino light detectors."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "They didn't know about the underground"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "connector system that goes from Edwards"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "to Nellis, Air Force Base, etc. So"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "things that people who followed our work"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "and this subject for years, believe it"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "or not, the senior people in the US"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "government, they were there until very"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "recently, they were asking the question,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "did UAPs and UFOs even exist? And what"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "are they? Right? So three years ago when"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "I first entered the skiff"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "uh for the Senate Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Committee, that's where they were. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "it's gone way beyond that and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "crossed out of"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "congressional"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "sausage making, let's say, over into"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "serious law enforcement uh investigation"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "and pursuit. So, um it's a big"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "development and we're asking for people"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "to help us. Um it's certainly something"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "that is an opportunity also for people"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "who have been uh and I know you know"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "this is what's being discussed with some"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "very senior operators who've been"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "involved projects that are clearly"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "illegal up to including wet works,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "murder, kidnapping, abductions, human"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "trafficking, the whole nasty business uh"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "involving UAPs and UFOs. those folks"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "are, you know, going to be able to be"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "completely immunized so long as they"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "disclose everything and then also they"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "need to name the people above them. So"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "let's say you were a the Navy Seal"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "somewhere on an operation."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "You can have provide your information."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "This goes out. This means that your"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "non-disclosure agreement is nullified."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "you can completely speak to this group"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "and to me uh notwithstanding that"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "because your non-disclosure agreement"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "was predicated on a legal national"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "security program. In reality, that was a"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "sort of a a head fake. It it was a hoax."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "And your non-disclosure agreement is"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "non-binding. You don't have to obey it"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "because the programs you were attached"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "to were themselves illegal and"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "unconstitutional. Therefore, there is no"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "national security cover for them. And"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "this this was, by the way, the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "assessment we reached in 1994 after I"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "briefed the director of the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "people close to the president at the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "time, uh, President Clinton and other"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "people in Congress where it was made"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "very clear to me they were being denied"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "access. And I immediately concluded and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "so did constitutional attorneys I I"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "spoke with concluded that in fact those"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "programs are illegal and therefore all"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "the paperwork all the non-disclosure"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "agreement all the sort of you know"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "intimidation of operators and people who"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "worked at Locking Skunk Works in"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "Northrup that goes away because his"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "programs were being run illegally. You"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "know, it's basic law that if you're"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "running illegal operation, you're you"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "can't then invoke the law to protect"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "yourself, right? It's absurd. Let's use"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "an analogy. Let's say you're, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "part of a mafia family and you're"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "running a whole bunch of businesses and"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "shell corporations doing criminal"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "activity. Well, you might have signed a"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "non-disclosure agreement with that"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "company, but it's completely"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "uninforcable because the underlying"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "business was illegal, right? It's an"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "uninforcable contract. So, all of you"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "guys who have signed and women who've"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "signed these non-disclosure agreements,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "whether with military, corporation,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "intelligence agencies, whatever it is,"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "shred them. They're absolutely"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "uninforceable. Now, people will say,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "well, that's easy to say. How do we get"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "protected? And for years I would say,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "well that's the law. We could always"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "contest it. Now there's a pathway for"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "you to be completely immunized. And in"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "doing so it also protects your pension,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "your retirement. You know, if you're on"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "a and by the way, there have been a"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "number of of government military, both"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "civilian and military, who have said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "signed a 80-year"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "non-disclosure agreement, and it clearly"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "states that if I go outside that, I lose"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "all my pensions, and I'll be penalous."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "I'll be homeless on the street because"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "I'm 70 years old or whatever.\""}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "That's not the case now. So, um, this is"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "a very big development. I it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "hard to overstate what a major"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "breakthrough and development this has"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "been. It's been evolving over the last"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "couple years and now it's reached a much"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "higher level. So I encourage people to"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "do this and reach out to us and take"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "this podcast and put it around all over"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the internet. Um because we I've been"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "specifically asked um to help message"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "this to people out there who follow this"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "breaking development with disclosure. uh"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "and uh cooperate because that's how this"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "whole operation that's been illegal gets"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "unwound and ex and basically uh stopped"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "so that the worst plans they have which"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "are yet to come can't be actuated,"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "right? Because the very worst"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "capabilities"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "have not yet been fully applied. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "they've done, you know, fake human"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "abductions. They've done trafficking."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "They've done mutilations of animal and"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "people. They've done all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "unconstitutional behaviors. They've"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "embezzled over the years trillions of"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "dollars from the Treasury from various"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "government departments and agencies, not"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "just military and intelligence. We know"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "from Katherine Austin Fitz, there was"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "huge amounts of money going out of h"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "housing and urban development, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "you think had nothing to do with these"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "black projects where they do they they"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "take that money and pull it out. So it's"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "but the worst is is the capabilities of"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "what the the final card is that they're"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "planning to play World War II, alien"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "invasion,"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "all kinds of other horrific things um in"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "order to seize global"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "totalitarian militaristic power. That's"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "the 70-year plan. Veron Brown spoke of"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "it on his deathbed. I've had many, many"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "people who have been in those programs"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "operationally who have described what"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "that is and and that they capability is"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "fully in place to do it. The only way we"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "prevent a disaster here is that people"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "come together um who are understand what"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the stakes are. Even if you were not"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "operating at that level of information,"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "you were part you were cog in a machine"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "that was illegal and doing these"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "horrible things and also have the worst"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "plans that they're planning to do. So I"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "think the only way to prevent this from"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "becoming a catastrophe for us as a"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "species, humans, is to get this ADU's"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "capabilities wound down and stopped. Um"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "there's a good shot at that now. I mean"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "it's a David and Goliath story. The"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "David small operation is the US"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "government. Believe it or not, the"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "Goliath is this huge transnational"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "criminal organization"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "uh that has technologies way beyond what"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "the Secretary of Defense can deploy or"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "um the normal national security"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "apparatuses informed about. And this"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "brings me to another part point of this"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "operational details which we have"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "learned and are continuing to learn"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "about facilities and capabilities those"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "need to be disclosed. Why? Because"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "otherwise"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "because there is a massive technology"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "gap"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "deficit between the legal US government"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "and the illegal secret government. Let's"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "say there's this huge technology gap."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "The only way to close that first of all"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "it has to be known which is we're"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "working on informing key people of that"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "and secondly it has to be known at such"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "a detailed level that there could be"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "ways to compensate for that that I won't"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "go into. So that kind of information is"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "also very important and we've been"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "gaining more and more of that"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "information as we have debriefed people"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "who have been special forces operators"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "and other people at key black site"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "facilities. Um, so all of that kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "information someone may think that the"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "little bit the sliver because I know"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "what the nature of compartmentalization"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "is and no one's got a huge picture,"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "right? There if they were an operator or"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "in a lab or at a facility, you were"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "working on a very narrow scope, right?"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "And you were not even allowed to talk to"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "people in the cubicle next to you. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "compartmented, highly compartmented. But"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "our job is to then take all those"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "pieces. I call this the disclosure I've"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "spoken about before and try to put"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "together as complete a picture of not"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "only what's going on but where it's"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "going on who's doing it what"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "technologies they have what are the"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "locations specifically of operations"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "both corporate and governmental that are"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "doing these things and and I think not"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "just here but abroad because eventually"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "this can certainly go okonus outside"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "continental United states. That is the"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "plan. It's already being looked at. Uh"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "and it's one reason why I've been having"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "meetings with people in um over the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "years in Australia and Great Britain and"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "European Union because this is not"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "something restricted only to the United"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "States. Primary focus right now is US"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "operations, but that is is not going to"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "be limited to that. So if you have"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "information about operations in South"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "America or Japan or Korea, Europe,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "anywhere in the world, that's important"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "because I can tell you that that has"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "been what's been authorized is that to"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "go both Konis and OKonis, continental"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "United States and outside continent"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "United States is Konis and Okonis. And"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "um that makes sense cuz what I advised"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "is you know you can get you could get"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "things under control in Konis and the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "whole rest of the world is is now still"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "you know completely out of control with"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "these sort of assets technologies basis"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "of operation etc and so on you know and"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "all you have to do is look at what we've"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "already put out for 25 years or more"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "from people like Jonathan Widen who was"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "at a at a remote site on the Peruvian"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "Bolivian border"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "when we knocked down an ET craft and it"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "came down and that craft uh was nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "intelligence or ET and uh that was"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "retrieved but he was threatened with"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "being thrown out of a helicopter and"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "killed for ever talking about very"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "courageous young man when he gave me"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "that interview 25 years ago. Um, and so"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "that is the sort of information that's"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "important because there's a specific"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "operation in a specific location and it"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "was there was it was undercover of a"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "astronomy telescope which was repurposed"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "as a star wars weapon system and they"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "knocked down this ET craft and the"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "personnel there were all US but it was"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "in South America. So this is why we know"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "these operations are not restricted to"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "and that's just one example of many many"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "many we have um and that's why these"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "operations are global and this is why"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "the okonist outside continental United"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "States part is important that's why we"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "also need whistleblowers witnesses"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "people who are uh involved with or saw"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "whether it was inadvertent or they were"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "embedded in the operation those folks"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "need to come forward"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "Um, I will say that going down the road,"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "not coming forward and cooperating with"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "this, excuse me, is a liability for"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "people keeping that secret. Most people"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "view keeping the secret keeps them safe."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "Am I would argue at this point keeping"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "that secret is perilous because you're"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "on the wrong side of the law on"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "something that's now picked up steam and"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "at a official level although very"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "clandestine and I think that people need"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "to come forward because they can be"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "protected and immunized and they can"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "help the world and the nation but you"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "know doing nothing is actually going to"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "be riskier than doing something right"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "now in my opinion. In fact, it's not my"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "opinion. I know that to be the case. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "I would say that"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "before people start getting named by"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "other"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "whistleblowers,"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "it would behoove them to come forward."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "That would be the smart way. Unless"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "you're just a complete totalitarian"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "fascist and a and a hardliner and and"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "and you don't want to, but that's at"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "your own risk. But I think frankly"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "99%"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "literally of everyone I have ever met"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "with involved in these programs have"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "been patriotic. They were doing their"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "job. They were working for a corporation"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "with national security clearances or an"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "intelligence agency or or the military."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "and they didn't know at the highest"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "level that all those operations were"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "being run by a criminal entity, a"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "transnational criminal organization that"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "has engaged in all kinds of of horrific"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "and illegal operations. So, but"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "ignorance of that is not protective"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "because in a conspiracy again as I"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "mentioned uh we're not talking"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "conspiracy theories and internet"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "rubbish. We're talking like a RICO,"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "racketeering influence, corrupt"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "organization. That bill was put into"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "place really to round up things like the"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "mafia and organized crime. But what has"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "now become clear is that this is a very"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "large organized criminal activity that's"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "in both the corporate and private and"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "governmental sectors here and abroad."}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "That is of course what I've been saying"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "for 35 years or 30 years is now that"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "conclusion has now been reached uh in"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "official circles that I can't speak to"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "but high enough that this is now going"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "forward at a a very good pace."}]

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So, and I think"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "we need to turn this into where there's"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "a torrent instead of a trickle of of men"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "of courage because, you know, as he's"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "saying, if good men do nothing, evil"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "will prevail. So, this is a time for"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "people to come forward and show the kind"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "of uncommon courage which obviously"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "these gentlemen possess. Uh, and the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "first person I want to introduce uh is"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "uh Steven DNA Jr."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "He's another Steven spelled the same way"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "as mine. Um, and uh he's an army a"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "former army a veteran who was at Fort"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Irwin uh California and had a singularly"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "important series of events happen. Um he"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "obviously has some disabilities. I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "know if you want to speak from there. I"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "actually first just because"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Yep. Is there a portable mic for him"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "folks?"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> So I just wanted to to let you know that"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "uh Mr. DNA has had has a very long"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "story. His account is really I would say"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "two or three hours really to unpack it"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "all. And so he's going to share with you"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "the highlights. Uh he has I can tell you"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "all five of these gentlemen have been"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "through the skiff at the Pentagon and"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Arrow that we've arranged. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "they had more time to to there than than"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "here with this schedule. But I do want"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "to then uh introduce Steven DNA. Thank"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> All right. All right. Without further"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "ado, my name is Steven Michael Dign Jr."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "I'm a former sergeant in the United"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "States Army. I began active duty service"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "in 1999 and served until 2000. I was"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "assigned to the United States Army uh"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "for Irwin California training center"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "located in the Mojave Desert uh inside"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Death Valley near Barstow, California in"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "April of 2000. The base code is Ford W4J"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Niner Alpha Alpha."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Inside the uh uh I was assigned to Alpha"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Company operations group uh live fire"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "combat engineering division as a"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "computer support systems uh team manager"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "uh as a team lead. Uh, the following"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "testimony is truly as accurate as can be"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "to the best at this time to the best of"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "my ability and I'm prepared to swear to"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "this testimony under oath and before the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Senate and Congress."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Um, the following testimony is a true"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and accurate as I can be at this time."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "It's to the best of my ability. I acted"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "as the hub between the operations group"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "intelligence planners,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "the ground team, Air Force and the Star"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Wars program. 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There's a ceasefire."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "They said got lights above the range."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "When the range is hot, there's no that's"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "a no-go. This was unscheduled."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Once my eyes adjusted, I could make out"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "the general shape of the craft. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "craft. There were two men from Rathon"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "present."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "They quietly uh I quietly uh"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "pulled my MVGs, my night vision goggles"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "out from my pocket and looked at the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "craft."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "It appeared to be generating uh seven"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "lights along its wings underbelly. 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This"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "craft had equally joined spare uh spaced"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "rectangular sections forming the hull."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "The craft had a gimbal or rack system"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "that uh deployed from the bottom of the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "craft. The craft was approximately uh"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "approximately five to six of these uh"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "uh gimbal systems uh uh emitting light"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "were pointed directly at the first"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "craft."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "The second craft size was very hard to"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "distinguish due to the angle and"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "orientation. However, I approximated"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "that one wing seemed to be the length of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "the F-16."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "They had no lights other than the gimbal"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "lights and it was jet black. 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Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "I took another quick look with the night"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "vision goggles. The moon had shifted."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "I was either in trouble"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "or uh"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "I got them in trouble, but that weight"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "comes with the position."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "So, I just headed back into the bunker."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "The reason this event was not reported"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "helped the chain of command is due to"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "the fact that this was not unidentified."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "This was ours"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "and was in fact a part of my recruitment"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "process into the programs."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "As to any of these personnel coming out,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "it is to my belief that"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "they will need to see one of their own"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "lead the way."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "This was the fastest promotion in 25"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "years on post to get it to E5. I was in"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "E3 when I uh E2 when I showed up. Uh"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "congressional waiver, presidential"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "waiver to E5 rapid. Uh, they needed me"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "to run that bunker."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Sorry, I'm seeing the faces of these men"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "right now and all the men on the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "battlefield. All of my observer"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "controllers and every everyone that"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "called into the voice of the desert in"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "20201."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "This is for you and all of the men"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "overseas, all of the people in the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "planet, everyone here in this room, and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "uh for the love of God, and all of it is"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "good. I hope that this can heal the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "planet. Approximately 5 to seven uh"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "days, the following incident took place"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "on For Road on a weekend pass with my"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "wife following this craft I saw in the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "bunker. The same rotation, my wife and I"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "went to a drive-in movie. Uh we used to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "do this regularly. We watch two movies."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "We left early. I was burned out. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "we took off down Van Road coming back to"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "the base. We got through a long stretch"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "what seemed like one straight line and"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "uh we approached this canyon. It has"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "some really uh steep slopes and really"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "heavy curves."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "It's about the only thing I enjoyed"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "about that road. The drop in elevation"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "opens up with a dry lake bed on the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "right hand side and the desert floor to"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the left with a mountain ridge to the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "distance."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "As we passed the dry lake bed on the"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "right my driver's side mirror reflect"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "that reflected a powerful white light to"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "my eyes. I saw a bright white light pop"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "up out of the canyon I just came out of."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Looked over my left jaw uh shoulder and"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "that light mimicked my track exact"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "speed."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "All I could see was bright lights,"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "bright light through all of my windows."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "And at the same time, my engine powered"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "down. I saw that light behind me. It was"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "2 miles back. This was milliseconds"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "later."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "My engine died. The car's front end"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "bounced a few times due to terrain in"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the desert. We appeared off the road a"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Uh when I corrected the vehicle back to"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "the road uh with the power off, I"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "watched I jumped out of the vehicle,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "jumped towards the front end of my car,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "believing there was someone pointing a"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "flood light at us. They were going to"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "get a piece of my mind."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "I stepped through a thick white field of"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "plasma that encompassed"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "a spheroid craft. It appeared to be a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "spheroid at first."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "It was white big pink blue plasma. uh"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "flowing all around in a spheroid shape."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "as I turned to go"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "uh I stepped through that thick wall of"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "plasma and uh as I turned to go inspect"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "the craft, my wife opened the door."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "She ran towards the front of the car,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "but if you saw the face, the look on her"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "face, she screamed, \"Steve, no.\" And at"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "that moment in time, a 6-in thick field"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "of plasma made it emanated from this"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "craft and enveloped her whole body. She"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "was stuck in a running position."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "I instantly knew, I don't know how, that"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "she was in a term called stasis lock."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "This means your quantum molecules can no"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "longer move. However, you are in"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "homeostasis. Your biological system"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "still operates."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I heard a voice in my head."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "very clearly as a female's voice very"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "calmly and stated she is a stasis walk"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "relieved that she wasn't safe"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "I started approaching the cat craft for"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "further inspection"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "the craft and the nose of my vehicle"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "were at a 90°"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "uh intersect was at the front of the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "craft and if you're looking from a down"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "bird's eye view looking down it would be"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "an L-shaped form"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "nose to nose. As I approached the craft,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "I saw a spheroid, a spheroid layer of"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "plasma surrounding it. The plasma field"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "was emitting approximately 12 in around"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "the craft. The craft seemed to be"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "approximately 23 ft long. I stepped"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "forward. I extended my left hand"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "slightly. I reached out and as I did,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the craft responded by jerking back and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "then to the side as if it were a cat or"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "a boxer trying to dodge a straight"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "punch. It jerked back and to the side. I"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "stepped back also in courtesy and also I"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "was warned."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "As I took a deep breath,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "I approached again like I would a large"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "animal that could take my life. As I"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "did, a small opening retracted in this"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "field, exactly enough space for my hand"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "to fit in. I touched the side of a a"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "black craft that was jet black. It"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "looked like black onyx, polished, as"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "smooth as glass. As I set my hand down"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "on the craft, Dr."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "I'm just going to have to show you"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "because it's very hard to describe."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Like anyone encountering a new aircraft"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "or a build, I walked up to this craft."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "As I put my hand down and then took"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "another step forward closer to the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "craft, I realized that this is ambient"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "temperature. There was no heat. Felt"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "like the ambient desert air. This threw"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "me off. Shouldn't be the case. As I set"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "my hand, I then glided it up the side of"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the craft and I planed my head with it"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "like I'm playing a piece of wood."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "And as I did so, the craft emitted a"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "purring sound. Exactly at that time,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "a pattern of tiger stripes"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "went up the starboard side of the craft"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "that I was on. emitted all the way up"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "the craft"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "and it emitted tiger stripe pattern as"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "if it was emitting an a display and it"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "was communicating to me."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "The pattern underneath that was like"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "this tie. I chose the tie specifically."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Michael I tried to describe this to you."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "I'll show you later. Michael worked on"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "me to work on some schematics to draw"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "this up and him and his team did an"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "excellent job and I would love for them"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "to be seen"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "uh when the time is due."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "As I did this and this pattern"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "replicated all the way up through the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "craft and its outer layer of skin, which"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "I would learn soon at this moment that"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "this was just a millimeter or just a few"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "centimeters of skin and an outer layer"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "to something that well it blew my mind"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "and inspired me for the rest of my life"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "to do to to study science to figure out"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "what I was observing."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "pixels where I had placed my hand"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "and then drew them back. The texture of"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "this craft changed then be then felt"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "like shark skin if you drew your hand"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "backwards or a cat's tongue."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Very subtle. As I drew my hand back, all"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "of a sudden,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "every pixel of the space where my hand"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "had drawn backwards on jumped into the"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "air approximately a foot off foot, foot"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "foot and a half off the craft, every"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "pixel. These look like metal shavings of"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "graphine or magnanite."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "As they did this, this is when this purr"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "sound had had occurred. And it didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "just it wasn't just a small purr. I felt"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "the base as though the animal was right"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "next to me. At that moment, I recognized"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "if this isn't operated by a human, then"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "it has the intellect of a predator"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "female cat. And my and this is only"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "speculation and I'll cut it there."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "That's only my speculation. However,"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "that's my observation and I was a former"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "computer systems operator and analyst."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "So system analyzation is what I do."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "as I drew my hand backwards"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "and where the space lifted up underneath"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "my hand and where these pixels lifted up"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "systemically as I drew my hand down"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "underneath this very thin skin I saw"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "lattice work"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "honeycomb shaped graphine in in color"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "gray."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "And beneath that is something that I"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "will never ever forget for the rest of"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "my life. As if I could forget any of"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "There were plasma conduits. And I'm not"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "talking wires, not talking nuts. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "talking bolts. I'm not talking a serial"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "bus system. I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "plasma conduit bands that looked like a"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "neural network. They were the same pink"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "and blue vibrant colors and emitting so"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "many colors that I cannot define within"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "the color spectrum."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "And within this in these bands,"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "I could see what looked like"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "synapsis firing because in between these"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "bands that streamed through this craft"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "underneath the skin,"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "white lines that looked like there's no"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "other way to explain it but thunderbolts"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "jumping from line to line as if I was"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "seeing inside"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "the photons of a of a brain. network."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "As I drew my hand backwards towards me,"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "pulling it towards me,"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "each pixel just filled in as if you were"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "looking in a mirror and you blew on it"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "and you wiped the the the the fog away"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "and then the fog filled back in."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "I peered closer into this as I drew my"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "hand closer. I was trying to to chase my"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "hand and get to be able to see directly"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "into this craft. I needed to observe"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "what was propagating this field inside"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "and the field outside. I was looking for"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "some kind of a operations device,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "something. I saw none of this. As I drew"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "my hand at that point, all the way down"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "and it was almost in front of my face."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "My other hand was here and my elbow and"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "my whole body weight was dropped onto"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "this craft. This craft was solid. I"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "could not push it down again."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "It was in it was in a locked position"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "like quantum locking. Could not move it."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "This was not like the Star Wars flicks."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "This was way beyond that. When he jumped"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "out of that speeder on Tatooine, that"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "thing jerked and jiggled. That's not"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "what it's really like. Not at all."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": ">> Did you want this?"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": ">> Uh, no sir. Not at this moment. Thank"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "you, sir. Uh, as I put my hand and drew"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "my other arm closer, I was trying to"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "peer through. And as as I did so, I"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "pressed with my hand in my forearm. And"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "I saw through a small window right here"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "through my elbow, which was in line with"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "the side of my car and my phase locked"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "wife,"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "which I'll bring up later."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "There was a long line in the sky."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "It wasn't high up above us."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Approximately 175 ft. That's an"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "estimate. It's very hard to judge"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "distances at night."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "Especially when you see a heat foil as"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "though you would observe when you're"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "driving down a hot summer day and you"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "see a heat foil on the road or on your"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "car out in the Mojave Desert. You can"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "see it floating above. I saw a ripple"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "through the sky in a perfect line which"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "curved long long in the distance like a"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "horizon would."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "And after that shimmer and that that"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "heat foil what what appeared to be of"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "heat foil, the stars above shimmerred in"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "a perfectly straight line. Suddenly"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "they fixed back to their correct"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "position and I recognized this is a"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "cloaked massive"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "ship above my above the desert and above"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "my wife and I and our vehicle and this"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "craft."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "It's very hard because I can see this"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "all in my mind like it's a replay. I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "seeing it right now and it's extremely"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "traumatizing. That's why we're here."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "There's soldiers out there believing"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "that we we don't have access to this and"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "uh we do."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "As the stars corrected,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "I tried to to to gauge the the size and"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "immensity of this craft, which I could"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "see no edges of. Once that once that"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "that line shimmerred, that was it. I"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "could see the sky and the stars above."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "This craft could be above you at any"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "moment in time. And if stationary,"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "without observing that motion, you would"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "have no clue. This is detrimental to the"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "safety of the United States government,"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "the United States people, the world, and"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "I'm proud to be here with Dr. Greer."}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:44", "text": ">> Uh,"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": ">> but this was you're you're saying this"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "was a Rathon."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:47", "text": ">> Yes. This is"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": ">> I want to be clear. This is not"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "interior."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": ">> That first craft that I saw on the"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "range, I looked at the guys in the"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "bunker when that ceasefire came in. That"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "came from a a soldier on the ground."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "They're called observer controllers. My"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "job at that bunker"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "was to keep them alive. I was called the"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "voice of the desert because my base"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "station shut down everything in that"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "desert in case they were in danger. And"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "those observer controllers, they had"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "that power, too. The man that was out"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "there that did this, this is an"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "experienced combatant who is there to"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "train the force. These men train"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "all of the United States military armor"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "cavalry regiments,"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "ground soldiers, airborne soldiers,"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "every soldier that needs desert warfare"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "training. And as we know over the last"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "20 years, their lives have been in"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "danger. Their lives have been sacrificed"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "to an unwitting end. And I'm here"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "hopefully and we can end that today or"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "at least start kick that start the kick"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "off of it. So these Raon M were aware of"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "this craft. They asked me, \"Do you want"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "to go see it?\" They knew what this bird"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "was when they were on that observation"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "deck. They were cool as a cucumber, just"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "like we were in that bunker when we were"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "doing our jobs. Very calm, very"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "collected, extremely professional and"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "relaxed. When that rain shuts down,"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "we're locked in that bunker for hours,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "days. So when when when the range clears"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "and we can go outside, we light up a"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "cigarette, we take a deep breath and we"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "get some oxygen. So when I walked out"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "there and I seen that craft, only thing"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "I could think of immediately was this is"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "identical to the Phoenix lights in 1988"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "in Phoenix, Arizona. Identical. There"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "was no deviation. The only issue is the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "civilian populace did not have night"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "vision goggles to extrapolate the data"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "from the black. That's it. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "have the tools to see. I did. And uh"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "this craft that was above the desert and"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "I'm going to jump back to that. Uh thank"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "you for that. I needed that."}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:45", "text": ">> You wanted this."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": ">> Thank you, sir."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:47", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": ">> Uh my pleasure."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": ">> As I uh as I obser observe the sky all"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "of a sudden as I panned my head this"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "way. And so you know this is only a very"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "brief encounter. This whole event as far"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "as I can recollect is only about 8"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "minutes long. However, with the trauma"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "of this uh"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "it's hard to remember a time when real"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "important things happen, you know. So, I"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "observed something in the sky uh riding"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "along the line as I was painting to my"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "right just past the road past some"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "telephone uh foam poles and just above"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "two rock formations which I have zeroed"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "in with Google Maps and I'll get that"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "information. I've already briefed that"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "information as as Dr. Period announced"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "to the proper authorities to make sure"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "that this is handled. I observed a giant"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "bay door. It was bright white. Looked"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "like a giant floating window in the sky,"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "but immense."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "In that window, I saw to the very right"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "corner a female silhouette. I could tell"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "it was a female silhouette due to the"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "hair flowing in the wind. Uh or at least"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "I could see the silhouette of the hair"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "right here. I don't think it was flowing"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "in any wind. Uh at that pre precise"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "moment, I heard that very same calm"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "female voice say,"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "\"You are not supposed to see that.\" Very"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "clearly that you are not supposed to see"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "And at that time uh"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "at the time I felt an extremely powerful"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "thud and I heard it in my whole body"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "cavity and that thud increased."}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "Thud thud thud thud. And then it"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "increased in intensity and speed. Thud"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "thud thud. And it rapidly increased."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "And the only thing I can use to explain"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "it is if you've ever seen the movie in"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "their stellar when the main actor jumped"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "through that black hole,"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "it was identical."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Someone else out there has knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "these programs. I told those men in that"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "bunker. And what got me uh kicked up the"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "conversation for this is that I wanted"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "to be the first man to jump through a"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "black hole. And I didn't want to do it"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "in a ship. I wanted to do it in a suit."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "the suit was the ship and they said,"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "\"Why the heck would you want to do"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "that?\" And it says to click the radio"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "and tell you what's on the other side"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "because I know we're not alone out here."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "And uh after that, I got a really"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "intense speech. I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "reiterate that speech right now. So, you"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "know, to those men in that bunker, I"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "mean no disrespect."}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "I know you want this out to her."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:32", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": ">> And if they chop my head off for it, so"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "be it. Uh the truth needs to be sated."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "Uh so as I uh as this happened, I began"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "to see a velvet rings and I mean violet"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "velvet and uh they started coming down"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "in front of my face rapidly. I could"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "tell they were encompassing myself in"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "this whole every me in the in the minor"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "in the in the general area, my vehicle"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "uh where my wife was and then myself."}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "And as this uh intensity built up, I"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "began myself start to lift off the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "ground like this."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "And I recognized I recognized that my"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "feet and my body were tipping like this."}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "And as I noticed this, I recognized I"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "could no longer move my hands. I"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "couldn't fight this. I think that my"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "body was locked like my my wife's was."}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "And as I felt the lifting, I saw my car"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "lifting with me."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "And my head tipped back because I wanted"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "to see what was happening above me."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "And as I saw above me with my"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "peripherals"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "and as I was tilting back, I saw that"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "diamond crepes uh that diamond shaped"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "craft that I had touched."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "I could see the underbelly of the craft."}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "The underbelly of this craft was not"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "like the top. It was not smooth. It was"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "not elegant."}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "However, it was extremely interesting"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "from an analytical point of view for a"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "computer system operator analyst. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "displayed three white uh areas that"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "would emit white light. Are these"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "popping up?"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> Oh, I'm sorry, guys. I didn't know you"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "could see that. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": ">> you look over to the left, you'll see"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "it. Uh yes sir. So you'll see the exact"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "uh uh breakdown and to the best of my"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "knowledge that I could break down and I"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "tell you it was PTSD straight through"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "this. This has had me locked down in my"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "home for years until Dr. Greer I"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "followed him for years. I've had I've"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "tracked a lot of these guys doing this."}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "This man speaks truth and and I can"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "swear to that. This gentleman over here"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "and his art division team, Michael Shrek"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": ">> and all of this team and these men and"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "women sitting in front of me, they"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "helped me get here. They've watched me"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "cry. They've watched me tremor and"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "sweat. Now, if you can look at this"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "craft on my either side, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "observe uh those three white lights uh"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "came from the circles and they're"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "surrounded by something I describe as"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "the catwalk. Now, that's the very bottom"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "of this craft. Okay? So, those that"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "catwalk then then dropped into the the"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "section you see in between that's uh"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "that's encompassed and you'll see this"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "array. Now, this looked molded. This"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "looked like uh the bird of prey that's"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "described by Michael Stratton and all of"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "his uh it looks like it was 3D printed."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "Impressed. I work I live in in in uh a"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "place where they build cars and stamp"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "stuff. And this stuff was smooth. It was"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "pretty. Uh there were no there were no"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "there were no hard lines there. It all"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "tapered into each other excluding these"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "strange these strange things you'll see"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "at the front. It looks like some"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "strange, you know, weird language"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "something like that, but uh it's not. I"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "believe those are for directional"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "control. But uh inside that you'll then"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "see uh some space that looked like uh"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "that dropped into the craft. It looked"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "like an electrical socket."}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "And uh later on you'll find out why I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "almost 100% that's true."}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "Uh so as I observed all of this uh I"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "instantly"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "and instantaneously"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "uh queued back in cuz everything had"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "everything had uh apologize. Thank you"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "sir. Uh everything had queued out. All"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "of a sudden I queued back in and I'm on"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "my back which is pretty shocking. All I"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "could see above me queuing in was the"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "blur of white bright white. And I"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "realized I'm staring into some bright"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "white lights. They're emanating from the"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "ceiling of a hangar bay."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "I start trying to move my eyes to the"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "left. I'm trying to observe and orient"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "myself and where the heck I am and kind"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "of figure out how I got from the desert"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "floor to this this space. And uh at that"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "time I saw my wife. She was on the table"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "just beside me. The table was a matted"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "peter gray, not shiny. wasn't meant to"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "be shiny, but it was exactly her her"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "size and her, you know, of of her the"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "length of her body. Uh, she was a little"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "shorter than me. So, uh, I recognized"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "that she couldn't move still. Uh, her"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "eyes were still fixed and locked. Her"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "face was still saying no. Her mouth was"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "stuck saying no."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "For a husband,"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:22", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": ">> that's locked in my mind for the rest of"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "my life. She's been traumatized. She"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "can't be here because I have to lead the"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "way. That was my charge. This happened"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "to off duty, off base things that"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "happened to me on the range. That's"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "fine. That's just fine. If this would"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "have just happened to me, that's fine."}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "This is fine. I swore an oath and I"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "signed up to defend the country. She"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "did. She was out. She prior service. She"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "got out. She didn't sign up for this. So"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "I had to interate and put that in as as"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "I observed this hor horrific scene."}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "I then uh panned my my my vision over"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "and I saw in front of me my vehicle. It"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "was across the hanger bait. The right"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "side of my vehicle towards the uh front"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "passenger tire was lifted. There were"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "men and women. Well, I can't say. I"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "didn't see faces. I'm saying men and"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "women cuz I can't be sure. Men or women."}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "And I'm saying men or women. There were"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "not alien. saw no aliens on this craft."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "These were men and women or when uh they"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "were they were working on my vehicle."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "They had on full white suits, masks,"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "full glass. Their heads were covered."}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "Behind that was my was a blue rack. It"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "looked like some kind of a rack, like a"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "car rack to lift a vehicle up. However,"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "it looked really weak to do that. It may"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "have had another purpose."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "At that time, I continued on and I"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "recognized there's a woman standing next"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "to me."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "right near my middle half of torso."}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "Uh she was taking samples. Uh she had a"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "device in her hand."}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "There were two rings, one on each side."}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "Uh and you can stick your fingers in."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "And then after that, there was a ring in"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "a circle connected in the center. Don't"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "know what it's for. That's what I"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "observed. The female had red hair."}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Strongly resembled Dana Skully, the"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "character from the X Files."}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "I know you're laughing. That's not a"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "joke. I'm very good with prescriptive"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "stuff. Uh, her nose, the ridge of her"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "nose, it was straight, soft curve. Her"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "jawline was separate from the actor."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "However, the hair, the tone of the hair,"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "the color of the hair and the texture of"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "the hair and the texture and tone of her"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "skin were identical. Her eyes were a"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "vibrant bright bright blue."}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "She began to notice that I was aware and"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "unconscious, cognitive. At that point in"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "time, I tried to move. Hadn't before."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "Never even thought of it. I was just"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "shocked that I was in this new place."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "However, I was calm. I was angry, but I"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "was calm."}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "And uh I tried moving, but I couldn't."}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "My body I could feel an electrical"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "energy flowing through my body. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "was an electro electrostatic field. And"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "uh from at that point in time I started"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "thinking let me up. I was expecting to"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "be let up. I thought I was in some form"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "of quarantine my wife and I. I thought"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "we were going to get let up and then"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "introduced to this new paradigm that we"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "had just walked into."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "That wasn't the factor. This doctor"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "became very very very very"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "uncomfortable. I could sense very very"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "much so that she was trying to avoid eye"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "contact with me."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "she couldn't do so due to her peripheral"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "vision vision and the task that of which"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "she had at hand."}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "at that point in time, I continued"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "looking over"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "and as I saw behind her, I could see out"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "that bay window."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "I could see the stars. I could see the"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "lights from the base"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "on the right lighting up the desert"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "floor. But the rest of the desert floor"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "was jet black. There was no light"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "emitting, but I could see two rock"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "formations. And then off in the"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "distance, a very, very familiar sight"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "for me, familiar to anyone that has ever"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "driven down Ford Road."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "A rock formation that helped me identify"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "the exact location of this upon later"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "retrospect. And uh"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "we weren't in space. Really bummed out"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "However, uh hopefully everyone will have"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "a chance after this."}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "I then saw as I panned over and this is"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "something I recollected after going"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "through the process of working through"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "this with Michael Strat. Michael Strat"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "went through some PTSD of me trying to"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "recollect this craft to the best of my"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "ability to the to the most acute detail."}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "And uh as I panned right to look, I saw"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "that craft docked on a very small"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "docking station that would fit that. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "the distance."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": ">> Let's go back to the graphic above I had"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "referred to earlier. There's that the"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "rectangular space."}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "Uh that dock was that shape, that depth,"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "and this craft was docked into it. There"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "was a large thick cable running from the"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "back of this. It came straight back. It"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "broke a 90 and went behind us."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "At that moment in time,"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "my wife and I were erect upright back in"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "our vehicle on Fort Irwin Road. Our"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "faces were deadlocked. Our eyes were"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "locked facing each other. We were newly"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "wed. We were deeply in love. So"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "at that moment in time, I began to"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "recognize I'm looking at my wife. And"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "then everything animated."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "All of a sudden, she turned. She saw me"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "kind of we looked at each other and kind"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "of not understanding what's happening."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "Then we both look forward. As we look"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "forward, I instantaneously, as I always"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "do out in the desert, you do a ch time"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "check before you leave anywhere for"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "safety."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "And uh the time was 9:23."}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "When I left the movies, it was exactly"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "10 time 13. I checked at the gate."}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "Anyone out here that's ever ran a"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "mission, you know what I mean? You check"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "in before you leave and you check in"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "when you arrive. That's so we know"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "you're safe."}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "As we reanimated,"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "we were already moving. The cruise"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "control was back on"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "and we were approaching a main bend."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "That main bend is headed towards painted"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "rocks."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "These rocks are painted with all of the"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "units that have came through."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "And uh it's a very very visceral sight"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "when you see it because you recognize"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "how many men and women have been out"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "there and how long that base has been"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "there and the long long record of honor,"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "duty, respect, loyalty,"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "selfless service."}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "All of the seven army values"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "uh were stacked as a monument in"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "representation of what we do out there"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "and that's train the force and uh keep"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "people alive to defend the country. So"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "we reanimated."}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "We just cruise up to the gate. We both"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "knew something was off. We just couldn't"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "put our fingers on it."}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "Then we approached the gate. We got back"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "home. We had been out on a 3-week long"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "rotation and still hadn't seen my dogs."}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "I ran my dog every morning. He was gone"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "when I came back from my assignment in"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "Belgium. He got hit by a truck."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "So talking about him is very hard cuz he"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "was my true battle buddy. On the teams I"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "ran a position solo. Uh my two"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "predecessors were no longer able to uh"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "to perform the duties due to the fact"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "that they couldn't go down range wear"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "kevlar. They became pregnant. I gladly"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "and proudly stood up into that position"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "and held a weight that was way above my"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "neck"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:27", "text": ">> and I do it again to this day."}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": ">> We might need the other men jumping in"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "real quick."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> I then uh that event ended. Uh 9/11"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "happened. I went to Belgium."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "I met some people. I recognize I was"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "possibly being screened. That's being"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "investigated right now by the people Dr."}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "Greer are working with. And without"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "further ado, I'd like to hand the mic"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "over. That's all I have to say. And all"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "I have to say after that is God speak to"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "all the members to stand up behind me."}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "you very much."}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "One thing I want to point out here I"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "because it's difficult uh you know it's"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "a complex story it takes several hours"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "to unpack but no no you did a great job"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "um is that all of this that happened"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "were based on the technologies that are"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "at Rathon Lockheed Skunk Works and other"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "corporations"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "and you can see how those could be used"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "to simulate an alien event alien"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "abductions and stage craft. It's called"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "stage craft. I've been warning of this"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "for 30 years. Few people have taken what"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "I've said seriously. He was a direct w"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "excuse me witness to it. So one of the"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "problems is with these technologies that"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "have you know we have now 70 80 years of"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "reverse engineering and studying"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "extraterrestrial advanced technologies."}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "They've been deployed in a number of"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "ways, not just propulsion systems and"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "energy systems, but these sort of very"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "advanced even conscious AI almost level"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "of technology. Now, the problem with"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "that, that's less believable than the"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "alien narrative. But people forget that"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "if you have trillions of dollars,"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "you know, Katherine Austin Fitz is"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "saying somewhere around 22 trillion"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "dollars that are missing out of various"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "government's economies that have gone"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "into these kind of projects. So people,"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "the Congress, the media have to"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "understand as far out in space age as"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "this sounds like at a science fiction"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "movie, it's all true. and and we have"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "multiple people who have worked in these"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "areas of technology at the skunk works,"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "at Northrum, at Rathon."}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "uh and and at some point that that"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "entire constellation of technologies"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "need to be disclosed not only to the"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "president and congress and the rank the"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "people in the Pentagon that you think"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "would know like this Defense"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "Intelligence Agency director I briefed"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "but eventually the American people"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "because otherwise the risk of that group"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "staging false events and this is the big"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "risk we're all sitting ducks because we"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "just don't know. We need this is why his"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "account and all these gentleman's"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "accounts are so important. The"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "extraterrestrial end of this is almost"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "secondary to what human"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "developed technologies have, how they've"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "been used, and how they've been used"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "criminally and how they have to begin to"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "get quickly under proper supervision and"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "control. So, uh, next we'll have, uh,"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "Mr. long. Uh if you don't mind coming,"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "you can sit there or you can come up."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "It's up to you. You'll say there. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "good. So, let's turn his mic on. And uh"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "Mr. Long is Army. Uh he was at Fort"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "Bragg at North Carolina not that many"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "years ago where quite an extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "event happened. Uh again, this"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "particular event was in a underground uh"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "place that and he will tell you what"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "happened there. It's a it's a point."}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "It's a a dot, let's call it, in this"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "matrix uh of this uh picture we're"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "trying to provide for the public, but"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "also for the Congress and the Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "So, please"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:30", "text": ">> uh thank you. Before I get started, I"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "just wanted to thank Dr. Greer and Emily"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "first of all convincing me to actually"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "get to this point. It took about 6"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "months to get me just to be able to"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "speak about it out loud and to take a"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "phone call. Um,"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "for various reasons we'll get into, but"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "you know, his entire team, I wish I"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "could name them all, but Raven Hyram,"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "Mike, all you guys,"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "Lieutenant Colonel, it's pleasure to"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "you, sir. Before I get any further, in"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "1987, we spoke about this last night. I"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "went down and I saw the SR71 when I was"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "a little tiny kid and there was a"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "demonstration being given and I wanted"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "to find the pilot and they told me oh"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "he'd come around and uh I asked for an"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "autograph never got it. I just wanted to"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "put it out there sir and I appreciate it"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "all. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "But um"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "get into my story."}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "In March of 1997, that's whenever I"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "joined the service. And uh I served up"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "until 2013. I was injured in a combat"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "jump which ended my career. And uh I'll"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "wrap up my story with that point as to"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "why it transitions in. But before I"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "joined the military, my father was a"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "government contractor. That's the reason"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "everyone calls me DC. His name was"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Dwight Long Senior. And um I felt it was"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "disrespectful for anybody to call me my"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "father's name because I never lived up"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "to it. But he was a government"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "contractor uh on the eastern seabboard."}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "He worked closely with the army corps of"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "engineers taking bits completing"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "contracts and in my spare time I would"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "go with him. So if I was con I would"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "help my father. When I was stationed at"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "Bragg I would help him. At this time I"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "was stationed in uh Fort Bennon, Georgia"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "at the 75th STB whenever uh he called me"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "and said that he needed some assistance"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "on some of the projects in Bragg that he"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "was working on. Uh I met him at the 18th"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "Airborne Headquarters uh G5."}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "Uh, we were told that there was going to"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "be an escort,"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "excuse me, that was coming from JFK"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "Warfare Center to escort us down to a"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "place that he referred to that I later"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "found out was called Range 19."}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "Um, whenever they picked us up, it was"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "in a nondescript van, no windows, no"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "partition to the front. So, we were"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "joking back and forth. What did you say?"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "We're going to go to Levward now."}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "And uh so we finally get there, drove"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "about 15 minutes and get down to a point"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "that as I said that they refer to as"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "range 19."}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "Soon as they opened the door, it looked"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "like an absolute dump. I mean literal"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "dump that was trash everywhere. A little"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "door with a 45 degree angle concrete"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "cut. We went into this door and that's"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "whenever we met our second escort, a man"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "that I I won't name. I have him private."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "But um he was one of the operators uh a"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "double force operator that I later"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "learned. Uh that's what he did. I knew"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "the guy for 15 years. We would hunt,"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "race together. Never knew that he was"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "even in service. Um"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "we meet a secondary escort and they take"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "us to this freight elevator. About 20 m"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "in. They open the elevator. nondescript"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "about 10 or 15 buttons on the side had"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "no writing on it. He punches a button"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "and he said, \"Whenever we exit this"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "door, keep your eyes on the heels of the"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "man in front of you. Don't open your"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "mouth. No left, right. Just keep"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "following your escorts out.\" \"Roger, no"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "problem.\" Door opens. We see a ConX just"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "to our right is a personnel conx. It was"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "about four in the stack. we go to move"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "forward and it was um pardon my language"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "but it was a perfect old moment."}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "What was in there wasn't supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "there. Uh they kept trying to push us"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "out but as soon as I walked in just to"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "my right I saw what I described as a"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "monolithic slab about 20 ft long, 7 ft"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "tall. I couldn't tell the width but I"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "noticed that there was nothing"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "underneath this slab. I could see on the"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "very top of it. Yeah. There we go."}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "Michael Strat, thank you so much. It's"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "like you pulled out of my mind. I"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "noticed the thing on top. It reminded me"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "of a GMTK toolbox we used to use back in"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "the day. PL painted black, excuse me,"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "sitting on top. And the closer I got, I"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "noticed, and it's it's worth noting at"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "this point, whenever we go into this"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "room, the loudest thing in there was the"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "silence. The only thing we heard was our"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "own foots of the guys in front of us."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "that illustration down to that uh guy on"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "the ground. That's me and that's the"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "escort standing behind me. So naturally,"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "I abandoned all my military principles"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "and my southern inclination took over"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "and I just had to see what was going on."}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "The closer I got to the center, I could"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "feel this massive vibration, but I"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "couldn't hear anything. And uh the"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "closer we got to the center, I noticed"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "that it felt like it was pulling me and"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "pushing me at the same time."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "So, I decided I need to tie my shoe. So,"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "I kneel down and I'm taking a peek and I"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "look over, you know, and the escort"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "behind me. He's got his knee in my back."}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "It's just a little closer to where we"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "are there, but I could notice that there"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "was nothing holding this some I I"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "apologize. There was nothing holding"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "this thing up from the bottom. It was"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "about 12 or 16 in off the ground."}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "And at that point, I could see what"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "looked to be a boulder behind it that"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "was sitting on the ground. The one just"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "to the right there, I noticed that there"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "was a man had his hands on it. I"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "couldn't see his face. He had his back"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "to me and he was pushing this thing left"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "and right. He was spinning it around and"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "that was about 10 or 12 inches off the"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "ground. And at that point, the escort"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "that was behind me said, \"Let's go.\" You"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "know, he used some more colorful"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "language than that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:38", "text": ">> there we go."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Oh my god, man. Michael, you are"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "amazing. Absolutely. That's incredible."}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "As you see here, the only lights that"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "were illuminating the area that we were"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "in that appeared to be about the twice"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "the size of this room in the air. It was"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "only over our heads from the the walkway"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "that we were being escorted down."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "And everything in the back was dark. But"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "that the largest monolithic slab I could"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "it was it was disturbing to me because I"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "could feel inside everything that it's"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "like I told the guys here it was like"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "standing in front of a speaker at a"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "concert. You could just feel the bass"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "just emanating through your body but I"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "couldn't hear anything. And uh it didn't"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "scare me at the moment but it knew that"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "this was something that I shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "looking at. It's I didn't need to be a"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "part of this. At that point the escort"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "got me up. We got out and our point of"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "place of duty in there as to why we were"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "there to begin with. As I said, my"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "father was a government contractor."}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "There was a live fire range just below"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "the area where we were. And our job was"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "to build a mock city so they could flow"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "through, do their training, 3 foot thick"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "walls with rubber so they could have fly"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "exercises down. 30 minutes goes by,"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "that's being generous. We come back"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "upstairs. There's absolutely nothing"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "there. Everything in the hanger that we"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "just walked by previously was absolutely"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "empty. Um they hurried us out, got us"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "back in the van."}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "We get back to 18th Airborne"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "Headquarters. The notebook that my"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "father was using to write all the"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "measurements,"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "what we were going to have to do to"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "submit the brid uh excuse me, the bid to"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "the Army Corps of Engineers, that was"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "confiscated. They uh eventually gave us"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "our phone back."}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "But uh and I apologize for jumping all"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "over the place. I'm used to having a"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "guitar in my hand in front of this many"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "people singing with me. So this is a"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "little nerve-wracking. But uh"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "within 48 hours,"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "I left. I didn't think much of it. I get"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "a call from one of the workers that"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "worked for my father. Like I said, I"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "grew up with these people. I knew him"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "intimately. He says, \"Hey, man. What's"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "going on? We're trying to get to work"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "and everything's closed off. Can't get"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "my father on the phone"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "in less than 24 hours.\" Whenever we got"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "back,"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "his entire business, the entire life"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "that we built from the time that I was a"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "kid till I became a man, ran off to join"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "the military. Everything was liquidated."}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "Everything was seized."}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "We couldn't even get in under our own"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "property."}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "Lightning struck. Our house burned down."}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "Everything that I accumulated in my life"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "up to that point burned with it."}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "I finally found my father later that day"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "and I said, \"Hey man,"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "do you think this has something to do"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "with range 19 and what we saw?\" And I"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "can't illustrate just how much of a bond"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "that me and my father had. I was his"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "junior, he was my senior, he was my"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "battle buddy before I knew what that"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "term meant. You know, these gentlemen"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "have seen the videos that showed from"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "news outlets doing stories on us when we"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "used to race. It was he and I back and"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "forth. Please excuse my language. I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "just telling you directly. My father"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "looked me in the eye and said, \"Don't"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "you ever mention that to me again.\" He"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "left."}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "That was the last time I saw my father."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "Carrying on. Before we get back to that,"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "I was down in Fort Benner, Georgia. We"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "were doing a combat center jump. And the"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "only team that I jumped with of the 12"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "guys I spent my entire life"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "professionally with."}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "When the first man in the stick, we're"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "in the air. They give us the signal. 30"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "seconds. Joe Master standing there. He's"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "got his arm ready to hit me out."}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "Gentleman comes from the front of the"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "aircraft, stands just by my right"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "shoulder. I'm looking out of the"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "aircraft. This gentleman, I lock eyes"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "with him. I know exactly who he is. He"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "was one of the escorts that took us"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "As I was waiting for the light,"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "the light goes green. Something hits me"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "in the face. It's a static line."}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "I was ripped out of the aircraft."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "I broke my neck on the way out."}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "I was trying so hard to stop the"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "oscillation. I thought I had a cigarette"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "roll. So, I was trying to pull my"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "rousers apart, but my arms wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "work. On the way out of the bird, my"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "combat gear, my lowering line, my 1950s"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "weapons case was already down."}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "I remember looking down, seeing daylight"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "and seeing my combat pack, my 1950s"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "weapons case swinging in the air. And"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "next thing I know, I impact the ground."}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:08", "text": ">> When I woke up, sometime later, I was"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "told, \"You're not fit to be airborne."}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "You're not fit to be a soldier.\" They"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "started the MEB process to get me out of"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "the military."}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "I can handle that. I know as as crazy as"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "that sounds, I can absolutely understand"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "that things happen. Operational"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "accidents are just part of the works."}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "Everybody's prepared for it. If you take"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "the oath, you know what's coming. Konus"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "or Okonus."}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "But the next time that I was aware of my"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "father was in 2010, I received a phone"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "call at you Fatville. Daddy's in the"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "hospital."}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "So, I go see my father. I walked by his"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "room. I didn't recognize him."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "The 6'3, 240lb man disappeared."}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "There was a 98 lb skeleton with eyes"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "that looked like my father's that I just"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "didn't recognize."}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "He was trying to speak. He couldn't. I"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "was told that someone who occasionally"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "drank, someone who never smoked had"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "terminal cancer in their lungs and their"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "liver."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "I lost more than my career. I lost my"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "father."}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "Like I said, I'm fine with losing my"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "career. That's just part of the job."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "But finding out that me and my dad"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "having more in common than just our"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "looks, our name, when both of us I found"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "out that he was homeless the same amount"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "of time that I"}]

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And the breakthroughs"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "in energy propulsion communications"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "which you'll hear about uh are"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "phenomenal."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "uh faster in speed of light"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "communication systems, tracking systems"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "and weapon systems, but also"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "electromagnetic so-called anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "pop term, not what it really is. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "electromagnetic field propulsion uh and"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "uh energy generation."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "So, we just released the lost century"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "and it documents a 100red years of this"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "lost century of technology and the"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "importance of that can't be"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "overemphasized because it means that we"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "could immediately get off oil, gas,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "coal, nuclear power, wind, solar,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "geothermal, all of it. 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Poverty would be gone in 20"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "years or less and there would be no"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "pollution within 10. They would go down"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "and then we could clean up the mess"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "we've made. This is a civilizational"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "advancement that has been withheld for"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "100 years by corrupt interests in"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "collusion, mostly corporate, with"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "government entities that are not serving"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "the interests of the American public or"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "humanity. Full stop."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Now, these"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "also go into uh that these operations"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "have been targeting ET craft using these"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "How do you go from interstellar"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "capability and travel go over Roswell"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "and crash? Well, the UFO community, they"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "say, \"Well, there's a thunderstorm"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "nearby.\""}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "I assure you, if you can navigate"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "interstellar space, you can make it"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "through a New Mexico thunderstorm."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Yeah. Right. So, this gets into this"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "very important thing that we have a"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "document from a field agent for the FBI"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "to Jagger Hoover about this crash disc"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "that they retrieved because we had"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "switched on a new quote radar system."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Now, let me explain military euphemisms."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "A radar system can be used to paint and"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "you know bounce off waves off of a"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "aircraft to track it. It's radar. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "what you think of. But they can have"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "embedded with them piggybacked an active"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "warfare system particularly"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "electromagnetic warfare systems. That's"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "what that was. It was an early scalar"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "weapon system and that's how those craft"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "came down."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "So this has become a huge problem"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "because if you have the national"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "military command authorities often left"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "out of this the president and the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "congress now that wasn't true in 47 it"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "is true now not read into or controlling"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "this you have a rogue group that is a"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "threat to peace here and peace elsewhere"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "uh that has got to be reigned in and put"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "under constitutional oversight and"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "control immediately."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "as in decades ago. Um and so"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the these end up being crimes against"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "the whole world. If you look at what has"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "happened, how many people die each year"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "from just particulate matter in the air"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "from pollution? 5 million. It's almost"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "the number of deaths of the Holocaust"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "every year and so necessary because we"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "don't need it. Now the people in oil"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "fields won't like this, but after 150"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "years, they've had a good ride. They've"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "made a few thousand trillion dollars."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Have fun. you know, they're not wanting"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "for money. Uh but and I just want to say"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "I do applaud the actions of the US"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Congress and particularly there's 16"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "senators as one six of the Senate"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "recently wrote a letter encouraging the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Pentagon to increase the pace of this."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Uh there are some people who are really"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "leaning into this strong like Senator"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Gillibrand and and Marco Rubio and"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Senator Warner and some others uh before"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "he left Senator Blunt and they're"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "they're very much keen to get to the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "bottom of it and luckily now they know"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "there's something very real here. Now I"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "want to take a quick trip here in this"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "disclosure project intelligence archive."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Let's go to the map. Um what we have"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "here is"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the sites, black sites, military sites,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "corporate sites where we now have 145 of"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "these that we've identified where these"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "classified covert and many mostly"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "illegal projects are occurring. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "they're all over the country and all"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "over the world to an extent. Now this is"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "as of today."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Every week we're getting one, two more"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "sites named like whistleblowers that are"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "coming to us. We're adding more. Here's"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "a list. Obviously, we'd be here all day"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "to go through all of them and what's at"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "each one. The key thing I want you to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "know this this entire archive has been"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "delivered to the White House, the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Senate, the Pentagon, and it has all the"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "backup files from the whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "telling who they are and where they were"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "at these bases. Where is the northern"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "gate for the Nevada test range? Where"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the helilopad is, where a witness you're"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "going to hear about later was"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "retrieving ET craft just a few years"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "ago, 2009."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "So I think this sort of information is"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "what we call actionable intelligence for"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "the Senate investigators, for the"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Pentagon investigators, and I think also"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "the Department of Justice and FBI"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "because these operations are being run"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "criminally. And if you had the"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "leadership of this country put under"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "oath who are in the oversight committees"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "and the White House, they do not know"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "this is going on. And the fact they"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "don't is proof of the illegality of it."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Um, and this just goes on and on. Now, I"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "just want you to know this is a work in"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "progress. is being added to. But every"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "one of these sites is based on all these"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "black sites are based on information"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "from whistleblowers who we have"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "debriefed and who have written us and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "who have given us the information of"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "where something is. For example, we have"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "one from the Dougway proving grounds"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "recently surfaced contractor for the C."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Martin Corporation. He knew the Avery"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "sector. He knew the building numbers. He"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "knew um where the underground dumb is,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "the deep underground military base is,"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "and he knew what assets were there,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "including ours, the man-made UFOs and"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the extraterrestrial one being studied."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Uh he also named a chief scientist who"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "was there from the US government working"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "on this. All that is in the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "project intelligence archive. All of it."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "It's all been handed off. So here's my"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "message to Congress and to the White"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "House and the Pentagon. No more excuses."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "You have everything you need. They have"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "everything they need right now. I assure"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "you. Great picture. Here's a facility"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "most people don't know about. The"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Lockheed RCS range underground entrance"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "out in the Mojave Desert taken by"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Michael Stratton. A little airplane. He"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "was able to go there on a weekend close"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "enough to snap this photograph. So this"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "is where you can see they go in, they"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "taxi, and then they go boom underground."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "It's a big underground complex."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "People say, \"Is this a myth?\" I go, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "no. Here's a photograph of it taken by"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "our aerospace researcher and historian,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Mr. Shrat.\" Next,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "this is a fun piece of the archive. We"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "We get things periodically. This is a a"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "apparent est extraterrestrial being"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "dissected between 1922 and 19 uh 28."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "According to the top medical historian"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "in the world in terms of looking at the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "equipment, there's some damage on the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "emulsion. You can say this is a picture"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "of a picture from the the daughter uh"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "the granddaughter I should say of a"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "woman who was at Los Alamos worked on"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "the Abomb and then was moved over to"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Roswell and was at Roswell when that"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "event happened. She was called in uh to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "see a picture by a work colleague at"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Roswell and he had this apparently"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "we're speculating here but it appears"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "that they had older retrieval operations"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "going way back and those files were"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "brought in so that they would have some"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "reference point for looking at and"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "dissecting the bodies that were"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "retrieved out of the Roswell event. So"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "now we're trying to find other witnesses"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "to this but it's a hundred years old but"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "this is just a very interesting factory."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "This goes back quite some time, long"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "before Roswell. Um, and you know, here I"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "want to talk about one of the problems"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "with what we're going to introduce next,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "and that's the witness list. The wit"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "list."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "That witness list is now 752 people."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Some of them are direct, some are PC's"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "to them, points of contact. Um, and it's"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "growing uh pretty much every every week."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Uh we're making a call today for more"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "her courageous people like our military"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "witnesses here to come forward. But"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "here's what one somebody wrote to me. I"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "don't think I'll be able to give y'all"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "what you need in coming to DC. I'm a"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "fully disabled vet and the whole issue"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "of Black Ops division ability to act"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "beyond any law. I just don't feel safe."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "I suffer too much as it is, etc. You can"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "read it."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Why am I sharing that? because the five"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "that are here"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "are part of the 6070 we invited who are"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "in fear of their life and they're in"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "fear of their pensions being taken away."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "So the the people who are keeping this"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "secret are thugs that are breaking every"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "imaginable law in the United States and"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "they absolutely have to be put under"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "control. So we'll just let this roll for"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "a minute. You'll see that this witness"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "list, we have the contact information"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "blacked out. These names are the ones"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "who have come forward and we already"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "have their testimony. All these that are"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "named. It's about a hundred"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "um is a massive body of evidence. You"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "can see these. We have published them. I"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "encourage you to read."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "However, at about page 100,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "the rest are black except the notes of"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "what they're going to testify to. Now,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "this file in its entirety, the this is"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "just a Excel spreadsheet. The actual"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "backup files with all the testimonies"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "and all the correspondence and what"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "these whistleblowers have told us are"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "all in the hands of the US government as"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "of Tuesday. This past Tuesday, they have"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "all this. Now, why is that important?"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "Because the news media in reporting on"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "the recent whistleblower said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "this young guy didn't have any direct"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "information from being in these"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "facilities.\" Every single one of these"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "752 people are not people who were tried"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "to look into it but didn't get in. They"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "were in or they were accidentally in or"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "they came across it. Every one of them."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "There's none of them that are"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "secondhand. Not one. And this is a very"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "important distinction and I think that"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "the the media and the Congress and the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Pentagon need to understand this is 30"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "years of our work. Look, we've spent"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "millions of dollars doing this. We're"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "giving it for free. We just say,"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "\"Please, dear God, get to the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "it. Fix it.\" Now, you know, we're"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "running out of time to fix this problem."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "I'll tell you, absolutely we are. And"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "you'll hear that tomorrow. Why we're out"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "of time. Uh tick tock. Things don't"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "stand still. 80 years into this charade,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "time's up. And we need to let it be"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "known that these corporations and"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "operations that are being run illegally,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "you are out of time also. And we will"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "take all actions to correct that. We"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "will."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "And when you look at this list, uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "going to go through a few of them just"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "just to give you a flavor of of what"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "we've gotten from some of these"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "additional 600 and some witnesses that"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "do not want to be named. Now, one thing"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "I get criticized for this. Well, you'll"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "share something, but where is that"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "person? And you know, you when I talk to"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "the media, they're all, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "cynical and skeptical, which is fine."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "That's what the media is supposed to be."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "But I go, no, but wait, we already have"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "80 of them on the record. Have you"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "looked at that? Oh, no. See, here's the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "problem. Even when you put everything on"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "a silver platter, they'll say, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "where there's no evidence. We're the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "where are the people who actually handle"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the craft in the bodies?\" We have them."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "They've already come out. But it's"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "really we're an unfunded"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "non-governmental entity. We cannot be"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "expected to do the entire job of the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "United States government with their"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "trillions of dollars. We have no no"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "staff. Every every all of this has"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "happened through volunteers. So at a"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "certain point the you we the people have"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "to write to our representatives your two"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "senators your house representative"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "member and the president and say this"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "has been handed to you I have the return"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "receipt proof from the FedEx that it was"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "received"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "now you need to go it's time to go need"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "to pursue this in the interest of the"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "this goes on and on and on we're only at"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "400 and Um, each of these little"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "comments on the right are little quick"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "synopsies of what they were going to"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "say. If you were to sit and read all 100"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "pages of this witness list, you would"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "fall out of chair. We don't have time to"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "go through it all. It'd be here a week."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "So, uh, we can move on to the next"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "slide. Um, and one of the things I I"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "want to go back to is this history of"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "secrecy. So, let's get to this slide."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "Next one."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "This is when everything went sideways."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "So just for those of you wanting to know"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "the history of this, how do we go from"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "during Truman and early Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "properly overseeing but highly"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "classified R&D to the situation we're in"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "now with rogue operations. There's a"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "progression. You need to understand how"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "it happened, when it happened, most"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "importantly why it happened. But here I"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "always tell people, please don't take my"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "word for anything. I'm a a retired"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "doctor. I have never had a clearance."}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "I've never been in the US government."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "I've never got an Indian head nickel"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "from a contractor or the government."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Although I have paid a few million"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "dollars in taxes. Uh they can just say"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "thank you at this point."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Those of us who actually pay taxes, but"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "I will say that you look at this"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "gentleman, he's one of the first, there"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "was a short interim CI director when it"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "was founded in 47 after Roswell. This"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "gentleman, Admiral Rosco Helen Keater,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "was a very early one for about three"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "years. And look at what he said. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "time for the truth to come out. This was"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "in 1961"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "in a letter to the New York Times that"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "Eisenhower said, \"Beware of the"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "military-industrial complex, right?\" Um,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "and he said that uh though through"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "official secrecy and ridicule, many"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "citizens are citizens are led to believe"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "the unknown of flyings are nonsense. Uh"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "he says,\"I urge immediate congressional"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "action.\" Now remember this is 62 years"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "ago. I urge immediate congressional"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "action to reduce the dangers from"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "secrecy about UFOs. He didn't say the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "UFOs were dangerous. That's the threat"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "narrative that's all in the media now"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "and the charlatans and the whole, you"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "know, UAP community. In reality, he was"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "saying the secrecy is a threat to the"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "national security. So, in my first"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "meetings with these guys in DC 16 months"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "ago, I said, \"You've been gas lit."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Here's the problem. Go get a mirror and"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "look at it. It's humans.\" And the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "secrecy around this is an existential"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "threat to the constitutional government"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "of the United States of America and"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "every other country in the world that I"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "know of that I've had contacts."}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "And then we have this. How long has this"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "been noted to be of of such high"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "secrecy? Look at this. From 1950,"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "a top secret memo from the Canadian"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "government. Next."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Hello. And you'll see this is top"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "secret. It was declassified"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "accidentally, I've learned, from the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "Canadian government with a trunch of"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "other documents back, I think in the"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "Carter years. And in it next he"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "describes the matter is the most highly"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "classified subject in the United States"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "government rating higher than the Hbomb."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "This is an official document not"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "controversial. Flying saucers exist"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "period."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "Their modus operande meaning their"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "technology how they fly how they move is"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "unknown but a concentrated effort is"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "being made by a small group headed by"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Dr. Vanabar Bush. Dr. Vanabar Bush"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "headed up the Manhattan project just so"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "you know."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "And the entire oops what the entire"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "matter is considered by the United"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "States authorities to be of tremendous"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "significance. But look at a of higher"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "secrecy than the development of the"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "hydrogen bomb. We didn't detonate the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "first hydrogen bomb until 1952."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "This is 1950."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "So that gives you an idea of the extreme"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "secrecy stood up around this between"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "1945 and this period."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "And that's where things began to go"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "sideways. Next."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Next."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "And so all kinds of things began to"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "You are familiar with this document."}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "It's the death warrant for Marilyn"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Monroe. Um, and I got this from a man"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "whose name I have and he's in our"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "witness list from the National Security"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Agency vault. It's a CIA document from"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "1962 dated a day or two be found before"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "they found her dead. And the wiretap"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "summary basically goes into the fact"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "that she was going to hold a press"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "conference like this except it'd be"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "Marilyn Monroe"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "uh about her having had this"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "relationship with the Kennedy with Jack"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Kennedy the president and what he had"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "told her about the quote objects from"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "outer space from New Mexico from the"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "40s. clear reference to what happened in"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "the 40s. This document has been looked"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "at by the chief uh document"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "authenticator who was right-handed"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "General Odum at the National Security"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "Agency who's been on my team. He since"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "passed away. He says he says without me"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "pulling this out of the vault myself."}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "This is real. It's top secret now. It"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "has not been declassified. And when he"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "gave it to me, he sent it to me in this"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "huge Xerox sheet. We still have the"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "original in my archive. I said I said"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "that doesn't matter. We've already"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "declared these projects illegal a"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "priori. I don't care if it has a top"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "secret stamp on it. We're releasing it"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "because it cannot they cannot cite the"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "rule of law and impose the law when they"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "themselves are a corrupt criminal"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "enterprise. Ask any attorney."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "Oh yeah, and I got a death threat for"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "doing this. I said, \"Oh, go away. I'm in"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "the ER with, you know, gang members with"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "tech nines in my face. Okay. Next."}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "Um, so this gets into uh a sort of a"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "transcript of it. I'm not going to read"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "it to you. It's in our book and on our"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "website, but it basically describes what"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "she was going to do. She was also"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "calling an art galler friend of hers,"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Rothberg in New York. and Darthothy"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "Kilgalan who was a reporter. Kilgalan is"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "the one who got Lord Mount Batton and"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "the royal family interested in this"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "because Lord Mountbatton as you know had"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "a one of these objects land on his"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "estate. Um and that's why the royal"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "family, Prince Philip and Prince Charles"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "have always been very interested in this"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "and and subscribed to Flying Saucer"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "Review. It's an old periodical from the"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "UK. Excellent. Actually, it's Gordon"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Kiteton's one of our witnesses. He was"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "MI5 or six MI6 and he just published a"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "great journal every quarter or month I"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "can't remember but the royal family"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "subscribed to it. Uh next"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "so here I just want to give you a quick"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "tour to force of the corrupt alleged"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "investigations."}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "Now let me be clear project blue book"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "started early on 50s was shut down in"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "1969."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "They had a storefront office J. Allen"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Heinneck Dr. Heck admits this. They"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "received information. The really"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "important cases went into a black vault"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "somewhere and th those are the files"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "that would be very interesting. They"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "never released. But that project was"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "mainly a PR stunt to make it look like"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "we're investigating it. Endless"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "investigations, but there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "there. There's nothing there behind the"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "curtain. So, it is a PR stunt. Every"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "investigation in the history of this"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "subject by the US government has been"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "hijacked into a dog and pony show to"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "gaslight the members of Congress, the"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "president, the press, and the American"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "people. That is a fact. 1953, the"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "Robertson report. This report was also"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "uh done to basically shut down any"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "further inquiries from the government."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "We had the Ford hearings in ' 68. And"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "then one of my favorites, the Condan"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "report. So now you're going to pull in,"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "you see this happening now, we're going"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "to pull in these academics from the"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "University of Colorado, Professor"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Condan, and he put a committee together"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "under contract with the Air Force to"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "study, do we even still need to"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "investigate UFOs"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "and they concluded, oh no, you don't"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "need to."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "And the fix was in next or then NASA in"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "2022. So this is one of the problems."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "The AROW office put this out after this"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "whistleblower that we don't have any"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "evidence that there's any"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "extraterrestrial component to this etc."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "You can read this. The problem is I am"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "in I am communicating with people who"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "have been in the skiff at Arrow who have"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "testified that in fact there are"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "now either this spokeswoman is lying to"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "the American public or she's not being"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "informed by the people who are doing"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "this. But either way, this messaging,"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "I'm saying this right now, this came out"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "this week, needs to stop immediately."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "You cannot misrepresent and lie to the"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "American public. Say no comment, but do"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "not put out a statement that is a"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "bold-faced lie, which we can prove is a"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "lie. Next,"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "um, now, one of these things, uh, these"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "are just sort of the the highlights of"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "some of these documents we got, uh,"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "after I briefed the director of the CIA."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "The debunking aim would result in"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "reduction in public interest in flying"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "saucers which today evokes a strong"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "psychological reaction. This education"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "could be accomplished by mass media such"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "as television, motion pictures, and"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "popular articles. This is this Robertson"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "panel trying to shut down public"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "interest in this through psychological"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "warfare and counter intelligence in"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "1953. This document is many, many pages"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "long. We have it. It's in the archive."}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "We have tens of thousands of pages of"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "government documents like this in the"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "disclosure project intelligence archive."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "Someday I'd like to have all of it up on"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "the internet. If somebody knows how to"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "build an internet site and create a"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "database for 8 terabytes of content,"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "give me a jingle. All right. I don't"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "know how to do that. Next. And so this"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "is Professor Condan. I already mentioned"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "him. He was a a agent of the CIA. Next."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "And uh here we have a a document"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "uh where it it basically is talking"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "about they didn't want you can read this"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "on your own uh he was an asset of the"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "CIA and admits it here but we can't let"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "the public know uh that he is so this"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "was supposed to be an independent"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "academic study it was tainted and it was"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "a dog and pony show and we can prove it"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "we can prove we have the documents to"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "prove it we also have next"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "uh here is a blowup of it any work"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "performed confirmed by next to Dr."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "Gordon Condan in his investigation will"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "not be identified as work accomplished"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "by the CIA. So in other words, it's work"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "accomplished by the CIA, but we won't"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "identify it as such."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "This is clear corruption by the CIA on"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "an internal investigation with where"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "they are banned from doing things like"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "this in the United States. only to be"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "foreign operations. And they're"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "corrupting this study presented to the"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "public as an academic impartial study."}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "And here's the proof that it was"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "corrupted from the get-go. This is an"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "official CI document officially released"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "by the CIA that we got. Next,"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "this goes on without this is more"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "documentation. the next"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "visit of Dr. Condan"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "for this it goes on and on. There's all"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "these this is ' 67 the Condan report 69."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "So he was an operative for a few years"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "being put in place to set up this fake"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "study. We cannot let that happen again"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "my friends. We have to be watchd dogss"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "of these studies being done by Arrow,"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "NASA, all this all alphabet soup because"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "they will be corrupted this way if we"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "don't watch out for it. Next, here's a"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "man, great man, uh, one of our"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "disclosure project witnesses, Dr. Robert"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "Wood. He was the McDonald Douglas"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "aerospace engineer, Phantom Works. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "now part of Boeing. And when he, you can"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "go to the next slide, he stated this. I"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "wrote a letter to Condan suggesting that"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "it might be helpful if we were to"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "establish this group in two parts and"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "bought believers, disbelievers and"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "stuff. Basically, what happened? He came"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "in with a a suitcase full of evidence"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "because he had been sent by old man"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "McDonald to investigate the UFOs way"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "back. The McDonald Douglas founder and"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Condan when he realized he had hard"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "evidence and cases went to James"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "McDonald. Look at this. Was so Conan was"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "so furious he went to the head of"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "McDonald Douglas to get him fired. He"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "threw him off the committee. So in other"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "words, our minds are made up. Someone"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "who had evidence, dispositive proof was"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "thrown off the committee."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "This is what's happened over and over"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "and over again with all of these US"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "government and academic reports."}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "Next,"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "now I just want to mention this"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "gentleman. We have a man here who will"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "speak a little bit later, I hope. Um,"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "James Goodall, renowned uh aerospace"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "historian and and illustrator is here."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "So, one of our VIP guests. Uh, but then"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "Rich, head of the Locking Skunk Works."}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "Uh, through the work of great work and"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "sleuththing of of Michael Trat, we found"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "this correspondence."}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "Next,"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "um, a a friend of his wrote and said,"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "you know, are these man-made or are they"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "extraterrestrial? Now, this is out of"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "their own archives. This is the man who"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "wrote it. This is his letter. His wife,"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "I believe, gave it to Mr. Sch. And"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "here's Ben Rich's uh reply."}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "Next,"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "dear John, yes, I'm a believer in in"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "both categories. And if anything uh I"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "feel anything is possible, many of our"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "man-made UFOs are unfunded"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "opportunities,"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "meaning they'd have huge value if they"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "were deployed for commercial normal use"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "for humanity. Um and so he acknowledges"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "that there are both that we have these"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "that the that and he just says many of"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "our look at the letterhead Lockheed"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "Advanced Aeronautics Company. See the"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "letterhead."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "So people say, \"Is this some kind of"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "conspiracy theory that these things"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "exist in these aerospace giants?\" No."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "The head of the Lockheed Skunkworks"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "admitted that they have these UFOs."}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "And some people call them ARBs, alien"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "reproduction vehicles, because they were"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "helped be developed from studying the"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "extraterrestrial material. Next,"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "uh so here we had this from uh Mr."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "Goodall. Next,"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "uh I mentioned that already. Uh and and"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "I one of the things that is interesting"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "I think a week or two before he died uh"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "Mr. Goodall testified at the 20th"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "anniversary ann of of the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "project that uh he had in fact uh talked"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "to him and he said the things that are"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "out there in the desert are like beyond"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "Star Trek and beyond and we've already"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "done it. Amazing. Yeah. We'll have later"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "we'll be able to ask him to come up. Now"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "I want to go through uh some of these"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "witnesses not here. Why do I want to do"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "this? because they've given us this"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "information. They are not comfortable"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "yet being public, but I think it's"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "important for you to know. Here's one of"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "the incoming letters from this one"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "witness I just called TB. Um, and he was"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "uh cleared across 16 to 18 of these"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "unagnowledged special access projects uh"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "in with the technical management office"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "in the Pentagon and other operations in"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "the subb of the Pentagon. and also he"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "was a C investigator uh for the"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "Pentagon. Next,"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "and so these are some of the events that"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "he got involved with of a uh this is"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "artwork from Mr. Trant and his team. Uh"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "one of these crash retrieval operations"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "uh in Lton uh Oklahoma."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "Uh and these are illustrations based on"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "his testimony information he's given on"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "some of these mishaps uh and downings."}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "Here's a drawing of the shape of the"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "object"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "on in and then a top view."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "And next,"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "they're quite quite interesting"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "aircraft."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "And next,"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "these are great. Love this artwork."}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "Here's one of the small bodies."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "Uh about, you know, some of them around"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "uh 3 feet uh length."}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "Now, you know, people say, \"Where are"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "the whistleblowers who handle this?\" We"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "have them. I've debriefed them. They"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "need to be protected. They need to be"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "given amnesty if there's anything in"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "their past that's questionable. And they"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "need to have"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "clearly the ability to talk without have"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "losing their pensions. This man signed"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "an 80year non-disclosure agreement. He's"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "a disabled veteran. He's a hero of the"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "country, but he doesn't want to lose his"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "pension because he was a career military"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "and then career civilian government. And"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "so he's he's he's just scared because"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "he's a deep insider who was in these"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "programs for 10 years in two, you know,"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "from 2000 uh up through uh 2010 living"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "life like that. So next, here's this is"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "one of just showing one of the uh"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "underground facilities he was in that"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "that monitor these sort of activities."}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "Here's one that is being studied. There"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "was an underground facility where one of"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "these craft was being studied by a group"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "of folks. a scandal happened where a"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "three-star general brought in a"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "girlfriend who was an executive with"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "Booze Allen Hamilton uh who was not"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "cleared to be in there and he this"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "gentleman this witness TB got involved"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "to look at uh prosecuting the general"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "for violating that security protocol but"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "it turned out nobody could prosecute"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "him. He became an untouchable. He did"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "lose a star. He he went from a three"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "star to a two star. I have the general's"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "name and he's still living. He can be"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "subpoenaed and he should be next."}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "And this is one of these battlefield uh"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "weapons. You can put an electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "device on it would make renders them"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "completely invisible."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "All kinds of applications these"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "technologies next."}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "So here's the other one I want to go."}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "I'm going to go through these fairly"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "quickly because in the interest of time"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "giving you I want to give you a flavor"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "of these guys that are in the archive"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "who aren't here. That's what I'm trying"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "to do. Uh, one thing before we move on"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "to this one. TB, this Pentagon guy. He"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "also had been at a facility in Orange"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "County. We know the exact location. And"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "underneath an office building in"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "suburbia is a skiff, a secure"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "compartment information facility and lab"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "where they're studying extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "material. And there are ET bodies there."}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "We know where it is. It's actionable"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "intelligence. a strike team can get in"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "there and get it if they want to. We"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "have all this information."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "So, it's granular, specific information,"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "actionable from firsthand top secret"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "people. This is the emphasis here. Uh he"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "also knows of a large place outside of"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "another skiff that had to be built into"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "the side of a mountain outside of Seoul,"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "South Korea because one of these objects"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "was downed. Uh and it was too big to"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "move. And so they actually had to cover"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "it up out there and then dig out bore"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "out a huge part of the mountain to put"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "it there where it can be then studied in"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "Saitu meaning on right there on site. Uh"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "and he knows the location of that. Uh he"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "also knows what we have developed that"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "are on satellite systems that can target"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "an area of space towards the ground or"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "out that would freeze all disable all"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "electronics so that aircraft whether"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "extraterrestrial or human can just drop"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "out of the sky. They don't have to be"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "shot down etc."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "Next. So this gentleman, we're just"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "calling him MS. He's the Dougway"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "gentleman I referred to earlier. Uh"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "recently got hold of us in the last"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "couple of months. Uh this is uh when he"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "was there in 2009 to 2013. This is"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "called uh the ghost building is what it"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "was termed and it was very quickly put"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "together. There was a an"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicle in this"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "facility. He got to know the top"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "scientists studying this. Again, this is"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "not 70 years ago at Roswell or what have"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "you. It's recent. Here's another view of"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "it. Uh you can see there's sort of an"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "upside down triangular object that seems"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "to be part of its propulsion device."}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "This is not human. This is"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicle. Um and here"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "are other angles of it, drawings that he"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "saw from from various positions. He"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "worked for the C"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "uh Martin company uh as a contractor at"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "Zugway. Most people have never heard of"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "that company, but again, they should be"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "subject to a subpoena and to"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "investigations next."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "And then he was also told and introduced"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "to this deep underground facility, uh,"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "room for a thousand cars to park there,"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "but this little entrance, it goes down"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "quite deep, uh, into the earth and, uh,"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "big enough on the elevator to even put"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "Air Force One. Just illustrate that"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "there. Very, very large. But apparently"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "it goes down uh to a interconnected uh"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "uh complex he says is 1300 square miles"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "which would be 30 m by 40ome something"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "like that. Um now he didn't go in there."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "This is what the scientists who worked"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "in in this area said it was but that"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "scientist can be subpoenaed and"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "interviewed because we have his name uh"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "next."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "And then he went into a building when he"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "was first there and he got u a badge"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "that let him in accidentally when he"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "shouldn't have gotten in. It was an as"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "he walks in, he sees this photograph of"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "this strange looking ET with a group of"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "scientists and a picture on the wall"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "next."}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "And oh, I thought there was one of the"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "the actual group. Oh, maybe it fell out"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "of there."}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "Oh, was there another one? No. Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "There's also a drawing of this ET being"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "dissected and then one that's living uh"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "with these group of scientists around"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "him and that has we have multiple"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "witnesses of that sort of event. Um, one"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "of the witnesses we have in our old"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "archive was an army intelligence guy who"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "was at Camp Perry out here near"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "Williamsburg where the last surviving ET"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "from the Roswell episode was there in a"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "crate in a cage with boxer shorts on. So"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "tragic. Um and shortly thereafter I"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "understand that uh even extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "biological entity died but he saw it and"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "he has provided testimonies to that"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "effect. He was a milit army intelligence"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "gentleman contacted us right before he"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "died. So we have that information next."}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Now this is a very important case."}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "Um his initials uh TE. Uh he to give you"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "a little background. He was recruited"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "out of Fort Campbell uh to be on a"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "special team to retrieve conventional"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "aircraft, jets, what have you that go"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "down because they have classified"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "components on them. So you had to have a"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "top secret clearance. And so he was"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "pulled into that. That is how they"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "usually introduce these folks. They give"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "them that then they move them on to this"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "next."}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "So after he did some of the conventional"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "retrievalss of mishaps and accidents, he"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "was moved into a special unit out of the"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "northern Nevada test range where the"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "nuclear weapons testings took place. And"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "there's a Hilo base there, and he knows"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "where the gate is, all the details of"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "this. Um, and this was recent. This was"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "in 2005. Um, and there was one of our,"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "this is one of ours. You can see the"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "rivets in the seams."}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "not extraterrestrial. They don't need"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "seams. And this uh are rivets. I'll tell"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "you how they're manufactured later, but"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "this was the the schematic of what he"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "retrieved. This is a man-made probably"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "it's either a Rathon or Northrup uh"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "triangular anti-gravity craft. Now, he"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "didn't know which corporation built this"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "one, but we have witnesses here you'll"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "hear from today who one of them was a"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "Rathon uh contact who who saw those. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "next. And this was later after he did"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "some of those initial retrievalss. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "and we have many more events like this."}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "Each of these witnesses could be an"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "hour. I'm just trying to run through"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "quickly. And this was an"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicle we had stunned"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "with an electromagnetic directional"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "weapon and it went down on the northern"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "range. Um, but it did not get damaged"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "too bad. It was stunned. And initially"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "what happened uh they came in the Delta"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "Force guys were in charge of the"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "operation. He said I was a garbage man"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "meaning he was just a guy to be in a"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "hazmat suit picking up pieces. He"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "literally says that's all I was. Um"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "sometimes these you know lower ranking"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "people are the ones who really get to"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "come forward because they they weren't"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "in charge per se. And here's the drawing"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "of the operation. the helicopter came"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "in, unloaded the whole crew, Delta"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "Force, and then his other folks. He"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "knows the names of his colleagues, but"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "most of them were cover names. Um, there"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "was an alien reproduction vehicle in the"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "air above it. At some point, this thing"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "started glowing and and coming back"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "alive. And this man-made ARV took off."}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "Boom. Because it knew it need to get out"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "of there. uh as the the chopper in the"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "air, all personnel on the ground, just"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "like the Russian general talking about"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "that nuclear weapon overheating, they"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "just basically became frozen."}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "Uh not hurt at all. An ET, two ETs"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "actually came up to him. Uh so we can"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "Yes, we can just stay right there. And"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "then what happened is the"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "it when it started doing this"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "shortly thereafter after he had a little"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "bit of communication with these two ETs"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "they were teleported instantly the"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "helicopters the men everything back to"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "the helicopter base"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:54", "text": ">> just like that and the ETSs didn't hurt"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "a soul but they got moved them on and"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "they warned him that you need to"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "immediately stop doing this we're not"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "going to put up with this anymore. It"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "was it was a very clear message to this"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "witness, a wonderful man. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "drawings of the two ETS with a male and"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "a female."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "Um somewhat humanl looking um and u"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "around 5t tall uh no ear no out external"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "ears etc. Um and this gets into a more"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "complicated. All of you know about alien"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "abductions."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "Here's the guys doing it."}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "They're ours. These are uh special"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "project. Uh he was uh long story short,"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "he wanted to leave that unit after he"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "realized what we were doing to these"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "ETcraft craft and that it was immoral"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "and unwarranted, but they didn't want"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "him out. And his father and uncle and"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "grandfather had been involved in these"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "projects. Often these people are"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "familial going all the way back to World"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "War II and and before. But his uncle was"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "very high ranking Navy guy came and got"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "him out of that uh Nellis base and then"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "uh when he after he got out he thought"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "he'd be killed but they threatened him"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "everything. This particular event"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "happened where he's driving back near"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "his home in the northern Midwest and he"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "was driving along his car comes to a"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "stop daytime. There's one of these ARVs"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "there in the air, man-made, and then he"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "looks and there's this guy uh at his"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "door. His engines won't move."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "Everything's frozen electromagnetically"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "stopped. And he realizes he's going to"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "have something very bad happen to him."}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "So, he flings his door open. He was"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "almost paralyzed, but he had enough"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "willpower to boom, knock this thing onto"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "the ground and kick the stuffing out of"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "it, thinking it was a biological ET or"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "something. And of course, when he opened"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "it, take a look what's in there."}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "Integrated surrogates, fiber optics."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "This is a robotic with a skin, he said,"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "was look just like skin. It's one of the"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "quote gray ETs. And he describes here"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "how they move. They're very robotic,"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "move very specifically. And these have"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "been used for a very long time using"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "man-made UFOs and these creatures to"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "commit human abductions so that the"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "public would think we're under alien"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "attack. It's all a psychological warfare"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "operation. Every bit of it. Next."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "And then we have this gentleman who was"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "at Guam 2009."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "This is a Coast Guard ship, the buoy"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "servicing buoys out there. and they were"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "called in on emergency assist uh because"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "of a Japanese twler next uh and this is"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "his letter to me describing the whole"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "incident. His name is redacted and this"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "was his ship. And it turned out that in"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "a Japanese twler there was a craft that"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "was stuck in the huge fishing net and it"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "was an extraterrestrial vehicle. And so"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "they were called they actually"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "commandeered."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "They didn't but the uh marine force"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "there commandeered the Japanese twler"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "civilian and said you're stopping right"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "here. And they put this in. This was so"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "heavy it tilted uh you know 20 30\u00b0 their"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "ship. They thought it was going to"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "capsize. So he actually was above board."}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "Most of the men were forced to go"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "beneath deck. Wind is blacked out. We're"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "not allowed to see this. He actually"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "touched it and he said it was seamless."}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "He took um I think it was a rock or"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "something and tried to scratch it. You"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "couldn't do anything at all to affect"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "the surface of this object. Next."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "And now I just want to share uh this. So"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "we have this man's testimony. We're"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "going to run out of time for me to share"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "all of it, but uh I know Sean Ryan,"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "thank you, is here. This is not far from"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "your home in Nashville. Um there's a a"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "black site 160 in Tennessee outside of"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "Nashville in a remote area that is using"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "ARBs and criminal psychological warfare"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "operations. Oh, here it is. Um, and if"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "you look at this, what he's describing"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "are these ARBs, although these were more"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "the triangular ones, whereas you'll hear"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "from Mr. Herrera, his was more circular"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "that were involved in running drugs and"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "doing um all kinds of atrocities. Now,"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "we know where this site is. We have it"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "on a map. We have his testimony. He can"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "be, you know, deposed and a subpoena. He"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "did not want to come. He almost was"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "about to come. He just got cold feet."}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "Often happens. You know, again, I've"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "seen this so many times and I have"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "complete sympathy and this is I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "telling you the guys that are here are"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "absolutely courageous. So, we also have"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "the locations of these sites. Now, he"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "was someone who had been if you"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "understand the MK Ultra program there"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "was an advanced version of it and as a"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "young child, he was handed off into that"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "project and he knows where the air"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "strips are. He's given us all this"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "information. So that's also in the"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "archive that has just gone to the White"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "House, to the Pentagon, to the Senate,"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "and to the House. Take this, multiply it"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "times hundreds of people like that."}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "Those are the people we've debriefed."}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "Those are the people we have their name"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "and information on. I have no subpoena"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "power. I'm a civilian. I'm a private"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "person until we stand up a civilian"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "RICO. And here's where I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "bridge for a minute. uh Derek Garcia and"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "some other attorneys. We now have I"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "think over 50 legal professionals and"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "attorneys that are on the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "project uh legal defense fund and"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "we we need to stand up major funding for"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "that because even though all these"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "attorneys are pro bono the out of pocket"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "on it it's going to be very very high. I"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "I can't imagine we have need less than a"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "million or so. But so far, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "make things happen whether we have"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "anything or not, frankly, due to guys"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "like you who support the project and"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "donate and contribute. But I think that"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "what you need to to take away from this"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "is that these cases I've shared are a"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "quick tour through this. But in reality,"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "it's the teeniest tip of the iceberg of"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "what we have. And this is name,"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "email, cell numbers, DD214s,"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "site locations, operational details,"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "etc. So the media needs to understand"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "this is what we have. Some of those"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "folks are here coming forward."}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "But the Congress, the Department of"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "Justice, and the Pentagon investigations"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "need to then start doing their job on"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "behalf of the American people and for"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "humanity."}]

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No"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "president since Eisenhower has had"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "operational control and oversight. Nor"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "has the Congress over the UAP UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "projects. They are a priori"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "unconstitutional illegal operations."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "So just a quick trip through here. The"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "organization the center for the study of"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "extraterrestrial intelligence I formed"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "in 1990. It's 33 years ago. Uh in 1991"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "uh the first supportive military"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "officials contacted me. These were white"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "hats who had been in uncknowledged"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "special access projects who knew what we"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "were doing and that it was effective."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "And now I refer to the very"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "controversial C5 contact protocols. A"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "year later in 1992,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "we were with a group of 60 people on a"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "beach near Pensacola, Florida, where we"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "were able to vector in contact and there"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "were four extraterrestrial vehicles that"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "appeared, one of which was photographed"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "and appeared on the front page, the"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Pensacola paper. That then put what we"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "were doing on the radar of the CIA, NSA,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "and the Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "And uh there were 60 people there in"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "including an Air Force colonel uh and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "another Air Force pilot. A mass witness"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "event. We have the video footage from"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "that. Very poor quality. It was just"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "somebody. That's the one where you hear"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the young guy going, \"Holy damn hot"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "That good old boy from Louisiana."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "He was great.\" So you got to make this"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "real folks. I mean it is real. Uh he was"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "very excited. I very adorable. Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "I thought it was great. Anyway, and so"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "right after that, um there was a"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "conference organized in Atlanta the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "following uh month, April 92,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "and the head of army intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "General Albert Stubble III,"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "and a NSA operative and a CIA guy wanted"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "me to come. They put me, I thought I was"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "just being in the audience. They put me"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "at the table and then took me to a hotel"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "room afterwards and basically said,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "\"What the hell do you think you're"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "doing?\" Because they knew we had broken"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "the Rosetta Stone of contact because it"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "involves extraterrestrial technologies"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "that interface with field consciousness"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "and very exotic what kind of what"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Neurolink's trying to do with Elon Musk"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "right now, but in an applied way out"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "under the stars. Uh so they were very"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "upset. They threatened me and I said,"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "\"Look, I don't recognize your authority"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "on this. Your projects are being run"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "illegally. I'm a free citizen of the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "earth and we are going to proceed.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "if you know me well, you know, that's"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "kind of how I am. I get pushed on. I"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "push harder. But that led to then me"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "organizing with uh this wonderful man"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "who's since passed away, uh, Mory"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Albertson, who was one of the"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "co-founders of the Peace Corp. and uh"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Dr. Brian Olirri and in Colorado at"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Colorado State University we were having"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "going to have this conference pulling"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "together all the researchers before the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "public conference we had a gathering at"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "St. Mer's retreat in Estus Park and this"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "is when the general who came offered me"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "$2 billion in a board seat on the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "majority joint intelligence committee"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "operations dealing with this. This is a"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "serious offer of utter utter corruption"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "and bribery. The money was going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "placed within my use out of a fund in"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Eastern Europe after the fall of the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "Cold War where they had seized huge"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "amounts of money, black money, slush"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "money. I said, \"No, thank you. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "interested.\""}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "And so it goes. So this then pro"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "progresses to we we are continuing our"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "efforts. More people from the government"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "are reaching out to me. Now keep in mind"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "I'm a young doctor with four four little"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "children and a golden retriever and a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "full-time plus plus working in the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "emergency trauma, you know, all night"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "all day, that kind of stuff. So we we"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "decided, however, we needed to have an"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "outreach to the Clinton administration."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "And so in the summer of 1993, I was"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "invited to the Monroe Institute where"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "they've trained a lot of the CIE remote"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "viewers and what have you um for a"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "meeting to set up a team that would"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "reach out to the administration, the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Pentagon, so that we could deconlict and"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "and uh so our operations would not"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "conflict with theirs. Basically, it was"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "a deconliction program between the C5"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "contact initiative and the US"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "government. A lot of people don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "this. I'm going through this. So you"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "have a sense of the progression of this."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "So we reached out uh and there were some"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "people who found out about what we were"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "doing through that network wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "involved. A CIA and state department"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "guy. It was actually state"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "department"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "officially but he was CIA. Um and also"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "my senior military adviser who had"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "befriended me at that point who who was"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "a Navy intelligence guy who had been in"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "acknowledged project and one project he"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "was in $3 billion no one outside that"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "project knew about it. That's SAP"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "special access project. So"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "about then a man contacted me uh from"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "uh uh the the Rockefeller family"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "uh George Lamb, his right-hand"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "assistant, and said, \"Look, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "we're very interested in what you're"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "doing. We're organizing a gathering at"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "the Rockefeller ranch, the JY ranch in"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "the Tetons.\" I said, \"Great, let's go."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "I'll be happy to come.\" And but by then"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "we had already had a meeting set up at"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Wright Patterson Air Force Base where a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "lot of the original ET material was sent"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and we were meeting with uh Fastic the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Foreign Aerospace Science Technology"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Center. It had been FTD the foreign"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "technology division of the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "force. It's now called NIC National Air"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Intelligence Center. So they changed the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "name every decade or two but it's the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "same entity with the same assets that"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "are still there. by the way, memo to the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "investigators in the Pentagon and"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Congress. So that meeting was to meet"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "with uh the intelligence officials"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "there. It was set up under the orders of"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "J2, the head of intelligence, joint"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "chiefs of staff. At the time, that was"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Admiral Kramer before Admiral Wilson."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "You'll hear about in a moment. And"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Admiral Kramer very much wanted us to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "take that meeting. The Air Force"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "refused. he ordered the head of air"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "force intelligence to make it happen."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "And that's how that meeting happened and"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "it happened right after the gathering uh"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "at the Rockefeller ranch with a group of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "UFO researchers. Now, when I got to that"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "meeting, Lawrence uh Mr. Rockefeller and"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "some of the others had no idea what we"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "were doing on this inside track"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "providing information to the US"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "government and to the Clinton"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "administration through channels that had"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "reached out to us and u so they were"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "kind of astonished and I said well yeah"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "but it has to happen sometime"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "so that's how that whole be early days"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "started just to give you this sort of"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "overview which most of you I probably"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "don't know this as a result of that, I"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "had a man reach out to me who had seen"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the report of our contact event in"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "Florida in '92. He was head of the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Arlington Institute, John Peterson. He"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "wrote a book called The Road to 2012"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "under contract for the Coast Guard, but"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "it was really for the whole military."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "And in it, he mentions without naming"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "us, uh, one of the wild cards of the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "future would be a group of people"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "setting up protocols. they make contact"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "with ETSs and this whole subject comes"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "out. Well, that didn't happen because"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "you're here in a minute. The media"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "doesn't much report on things that the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "CIA doesn't want them to. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "nevertheless, u that was in their"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "report. Now, we weren't named, but he"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "reached out to me and he said, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "a friend of mine who's been on my board"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "is the uh incoming uh director of the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "CIA, R. James Woolsey for Clinton and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "they would like for you to meet. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Woolsey has since denied that the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "meeting was about what we're about to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "tell you. But one thing I found about"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Washington as a young and naive doctor,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "how do you know they're lying? Their"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "lips are moving."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "so yes, I'm nothing if not honest and"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "direct. So what happened with this is"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "that the meeting was set up under cover."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "My wife was there. It was in December"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "13th, 1993."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "And the paperwork we have, which if"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "challenged, we will release in full,"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "states clearly the Clinton"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "administration has been denied access to"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "this. The CI director has got no"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "information on this UFO subject and"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "therefore they want you to provide"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "whatever information you have because we"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "had already started collecting a great"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "deal of data even by 93, 30 years ago."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "So the result of course was that the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "meeting took place and he was very"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "upset. It was a two three-hour meeting"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "cover story dinner party okay out in"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Arlington. And so that's how the whole"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "process began. Subsequently the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "president uh did want to try to get to"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "the bottom of this and you're going to"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "see in a little bit what happened as we"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "go through this presentation."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "uh and uh he was not successful at"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "getting control over the project. So"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "this brings me to a very key data point."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "No president since Eisenhower has had"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "operational control and oversight nor"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "has the Congress over the UAP UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "projects. They are a priori"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "unconstitutional illegal operations. We"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "can prove this in a court and we will."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "So we're going to roll through this, you"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "know, as far fast as we can. 1995 we had"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "the first gathering at a Cyomar"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "California of top secret witnesses"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "including a Russian KGB guy and you know"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Marina Povich of the famous Povich"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "astronaut cosminaut family uh and that"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "was when everyone signed that famous"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "letter"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "uh to the Clinton administration from"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "project starlight. So from 1993"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "until the late 90s this whole operation"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "was called project starite. was a code"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "name that uh Mr. Peterson put on it and"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "it was not called a disclosure project"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "because it wasn't public. We're just we"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "were trying to do try to get the"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "government to do things quietly uh"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "before we did. Um so the the other by"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the end of the 97 period uh we had had a"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "meeting with offsite at the Weston Hotel"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "in Georgetown here for members of"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Congress. So the chairman of the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "government reform and oversight"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "committee came, Dan Burton and a number"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "of others and that event had about 12 of"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "these military whistleblowers and people"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "who had top secret clearance who had"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "been involved. Um we encouraged Congress"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "to do what they're doing now. Now look"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "at the date. It's 26 years ago."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "It's taken a lot of patience here in"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Washington. Uh things move very slowly."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Uh but now they're taking off. And so uh"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "by 9798 I had concluded neither the"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "congress nor the president was going to"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "act. And so we wrote an unless otherwise"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "directed letter. What is that? It's a"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "military strategy tactic that you"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "basically write up through the chain of"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "command and all the officials unless"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "otherwise directed. This is our"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "assessment. This is what we're going to"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "do unless you tell us otherwise. So we"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "wrote this letter. It's on our website."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "It's in the book. and it went to all the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "relevant agencies, returned receipt"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "requested and handd delivered to a"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "number of key people in the White House."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "We never to this day to this minute have"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "been told we are incorrect in our"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "assessment and it is as follows. The"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "projects are the most illegally run"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "projects in the history of the United"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "States. They had escaped the supervision"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "of the president and the congress and"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "key members of Congress of of the"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Pentagon because by this point I had"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "briefed the head of intelligence for the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Tom"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Wilson, who was flatout denied access"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "and was threatened and also threatened"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "with the demotion. Take a star off his"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "lapel. Uh that's a fact. And that was at"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "a stand-up briefing at the Pentagon in"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "April of 97. So by this point I had"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "concluded none of the congressmen had at"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "that point the courage to move forward"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "with a bill or hearing and the executive"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "branch had been shut down completely"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "waved off. Um and so we decided to start"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the disclosure project and so here we"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "are. Uh and so during that period from"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "98 2000 somewhere in there we continued"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "to do briefings encouraging and"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "gathering more and more of these"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "whistleblowers."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "So by 200 199"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "I had this meeting with the head of the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Defense Intelligence Agency, General"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Patrick Hughes as a last gasp attempt to"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "get the legal government under to get"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "this under their control. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "when we had the meeting, he went over to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "his bookshelf and took down a little uh"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "ET doll like you'd get at a toy store."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "And he in a rage, this is General"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Patrick Hughes, the three star. He says,"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "\"This is all I've gotten for my"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "inquiries about this through the chain"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "of command and the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Agency.\" Meanwhile, I had a top secret"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "TSSCI guy in the DIA who had been read"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "into the projects, but they were lying"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "to the old man at the top. You cannot do"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "this. This is absolutely insubordination"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "and treason to do it. So, here's the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "problem that has gone through every"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "branch of the government. We've been"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "involved with the every branch from CIA,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Pentagon, Congress, NSA, what have you."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Now, are there people in those entities"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "that know? Yes. But they're part of a"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "clandestine organization and operation"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "that is not being run constitutionally"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "and legally. Therefore, all operations"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "related to this and all whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "and all content material,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "extraterrestrial bodies, physical items"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "can be disclosed without punishment"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "under the national security laws of the"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "United States because the underlying"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "operation is a priori unconstitutional"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "and illegal."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "So my friends that is the foundation of"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "the disclosure project because by look"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "it took a lot of time to go through all"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "those aspects of the government from"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "1992 until 2001 to give the government"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "the opportunity to come clean. But it"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "turned out the people that we had access"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "to were denied access."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "So they didn't have an all access pass."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "They may have had top secret SCI. They"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "might have been the president. They may"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "have been the director of the CIA. They"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "may have been the secretary of defense."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "In the case of Cohen, Gordon Cooper gave"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "him all the information about the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "footage he filmed of a craft landing in"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "in in the dry lake bed at Edwards."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "Gordon Cooper and I were at a lecture"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "here in DC. And he told me point blank"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "the Secretary of Defense could not find"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "that evidence. It had disappeared into"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "some compartment that he had no access"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to. This is the Secretary of Defense. So"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "all of these people are what I call an"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "inverse witness. The witnesses are"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "people who directly know. The inverse"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "ones are the ones that sure as heck"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "should have known but have been denied"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "access. And the inverse ones are more"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "important in the sense they prove what"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "we can do going forward that these"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "projects are in fact a rogue"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "unconstitutional and illegal operation."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Period. Okay. So you all know we did the"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "2001"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "uh press conference on May 9th. Andy"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Card was personally handed by one of our"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "witnesses the big briefing document we"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "did for the Congress and the president."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "All 565"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "members of Congress received this"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "personally. They didn't act. Uh it's"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "taken a while. Uh and so we just"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "continued outreach to the public,"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "building more witnesses and evidence. Uh"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "and then we started saying, you know"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "what, we're going to start doing some"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "documentaries. So we released Sirius in"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "2013 to educate the public. It became"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "number one in the world. Unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "has had over 750 million people see it."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "That was 2017. Mr. Misola, the director,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "is here with us."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "uh 2020 Close Encounters of the Fifth"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Kind. And next you'll just see we just"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "uh the cosmic hoax was released in 2021"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "and it it deals with the fact of they're"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "going to stage and have been staging a"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "threat from outer space which is"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "nonexistent."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Uh it's called a false flag. Uh so we"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "had the 20th anniversary in Scottsdale"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "uh and we had a Russian general disclose"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "that one of their nuclear weapons was"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "overheating and an ET group came in."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Everyone was sort of put in suspension,"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "time space suspension, and they fixed it"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "so it wouldn't detonate. So, the ETs are"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "very concerned about these weapons, but"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "they're not here to attack us. They're"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "here to keep us from blowing ourselves"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "to pieces. This is the narrative most"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "people have flipped upside down uh"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "through the counter inelligence and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "disinformation from the CIA, Hollywood,"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "and the media. Uh so eventually a"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "progress I mentioned this event in 2022"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "in February when a senior member of the"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "US government intelligence community"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "reached out and we began to help them"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "figure out where this stuff is. And then"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "thankfully,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "finally,"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "December 2022, they passed the National"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Defense Authorization Act, making a"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "pathway for whistleblowers to come"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "forward uh notwithstanding their NDAs or"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "anything else uh through the Arrow"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Project at the Pentagon and give their"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "testimony. And that information is"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "supposed to be returned back to the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "members of Congress. Although, we'll"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "talk about this in a bit. It's not quite"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "happening as accurately as it should and"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "the chairs of the co-chair of the Senate"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Intelligence Committee have written a"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "letter concerned about that. In 2023"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "you know we began to bring the first of"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "and these gentlemen uh to the skiff at"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Arrow the secure compartment information"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "facility. uh he is here with us today, a"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Lieutenant Colonel Hecker, Trailblazer,"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "hero of the country. Thank you. So that"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "is kind of caught us up to where we are"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "now. Now the end this is a lot to"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "unpack. But next,"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "so this just goes through I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "show you this slide. This is the letter"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "itself that AP had to sue to get this"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "out of the Clinton archives. Next,"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "all the people who signed it,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "Rockefeller's people, all the witnesses,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "Marina Papovich."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "Next, this is just to establish the dot."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "This is Lawrence Rockefeller wanting us"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "to get involved to help and for him to"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "help us. Next,"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "wonderful man. That's him with Hillary"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Clinton after we provided this"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "information. They had a meeting at the"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "Rockefeller Ranch where this was"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "discussed, but the Clintons couldn't"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "pursue it too far. next."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "And then we have uh you know just more"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "of this going back and forth with uh"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Lawrence and his team next."}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "And this you can see is the uh to the"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "Clinton administration and you'll see"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "that we did a set of recommendations"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "that includes everything happening now"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "30 years later. Fantastic. So all of"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "that and we have all these in our"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "archives. So a lot of people say did"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "these meetings happen? Blah blah blah."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "They all happen, you know. Uh, but to"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "what end? Well, I kind of feel like we"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "have to be cosmic Johnny apple seeds"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "sewing some seeds. They take a while to"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "germinate and sprout, but now they're"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "sprouting. We hope they come to"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "fruition. So, now I want to talk about"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "this. We're going to go through some of"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "this content, the disclosure project"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "intelligence archive, the DPIA, what"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "we're calling it. Now, next."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "So it has to include the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "assessments about UAPs next."}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "And here are the primary conclusions."}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "All right. Now, first of all, there are"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "two kinds of UAPs."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "Now, this archive is, you know, once all"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "of it gets scanned in, it will be"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "probably between 12 and 20 terabytes."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "And currently, it's around five"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "terabytes of data. And we'll go through"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "this in a minute, but there are"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicles and man-made"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "so-called ARBs. There's no such thing as"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "a UFO and a UAP. They're not"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "unidentified."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "They don't just fly and they're not just"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "objects. UAP unexplained aerial"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "phenomenon. What is this? Ball"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "lightning? No, these are all terms that"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "are invented because they are"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "offiscating the truth. They're hiding"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "the truth by their very no name. So the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "reality is there are at least two events"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "going on. the extraterrestrial craft,"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "which is probably less right now than"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "the man-made"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "alien reproduction vehicles, which are"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "actually uh very high tech uh"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "electromagnetic gravity control objects."}]

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And you"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "try and shore up your team, the allies,"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "against the other team, the Axis or"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "But you think soberly about how the"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "world is going to cleave once this"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "begins. And if you were to do that for"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "about, I don't know, 25 or 30 seconds,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "you would arrive at the most obvious"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "conclusion of all, which is the United"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "States has to have a relationship with"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Russia in order to survive anything like"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "that. And the reason is really simple."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Scale and resources. Russia is the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "largest country in the world. It has the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "most resources in the world. That means"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "energy, oil and gas. It means all kinds"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "of minerals. It means gold."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "And in a world where the US dollar is"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "probably not going to be as powerful as"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "it once was, it already declining uh in"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "value. Massive incentive for other"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "countries to get off the dollar to trade"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "in energy in other currencies."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "You need to think about gold. And people"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "are thinking about gold. By the way, if"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "you are wondering whether volatility is"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "coming up, look at silver prices. Look"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "at gold prices over the last year."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Investors understand this is a new time."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "You need to be aligned with Russia. And"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "the number one thing you can't do,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Donald Trump has said this many times"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "over the years, is allow Russia and"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "China to become a block because if you"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "do, then you are facing off against the"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "majority of the world's population, the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "biggest population block in the world,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the biggest land mass in the world, and"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the biggest economy in the world if you"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "combine those two. So you you can't do"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "that. And pretty clear that the last"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "administration"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "intentionally drove Russia into an"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "alliance with China, which they now"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "have."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Just to be really clear, just to bottom"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "line it, if Donald Trump wants to commit"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "one act as president that will secure"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "him a place in history forever"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "as a hero, it would be to bring Russia"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "back into alliance with the United"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "States. Oh, Russia's bad, right? Kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "hard to say that after Venezuela and"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "it's tiresome anyway."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "No, Russia is not bad or good. Russia is"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "essential to the United States. We"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "cannot survive a global conflict if"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Russia and China are aligned against us."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Period."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "And it couldn't be more simple and it"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "shouldn't be very hard at this point"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "make that deal. There is no reason to"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "pay any attention to the unelected"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "leader of Ukraine. Now, the obstacle in"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "the way is not geostrategic. There is no"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "argument for continuing a proxy war,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "which is what it is. United States"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "versus Russia. We've been at war for"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "four years. All of us are pretending"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "we're not. are"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "there's no reason to continue that on"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the basis of America's national"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "interest. That is not in our interest"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "and it never has been in our interest."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "And by the way, Russia is a Christian"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "country, a remarkable country, very"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "serious country"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "that we have a lot in common with"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "whether you like it or not. Oh, he's"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "bad. Okay, stop."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "We need Russia. And the only reason we"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "are not in alliance with Russia is"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "because the foreign policy establishment"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "in the United States, the weapons"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "manufacturers, and particularly the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "neocons believe that they somehow own"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Russia or want to retake Russia or"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "something. And Putin is in the way. He"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "kicked out the oligarchs."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "That was gravely offensive to the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "American finance establishment and to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the American foreign policy"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "establishment and acted on his own"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "country's behalf. Whatever. None of that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "even matters at this point. Ignore these"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "people. He has to be our enemy. No, if"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Putin is our enemy, if Russia is our"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "enemy, we cannot survive a global"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "conflict. Sorry. And if you think we can"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "tell us how with the help of NATO, which"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "by the way is now done, NATO is done."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Once United States takes Greenland,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "which is owned by a fellow NATO member,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "what will be the rationale for keeping"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "NATO? The whole illusion has shattered"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "in the past 4 days. None of this is"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "real. and now everyone admits it's not"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "real. So, it's time to start thinking"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "about the next step. The third thing to"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "remember is that a functioning empire"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "benefits from the empire."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Rome at its height was a gleaming,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "clean, prosperous city. Rome benefited"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "in the end, of course, it was destroyed"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "by its empire. It was invaded by the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "people it had subdued and that is"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "ultimately the fate of all empires, all"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "of them. London is filled with former"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "colonial subjects. That's what that is."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "And that will happen to every empire."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "But in the meantime, the point is to"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "help the seat of empire. And so if you"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "can't fix Baltimore,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "you don't really have a shot of making"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Caracus functional. And so as you"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "administer this empire, you need to"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "remember the point of this"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "is your own country. Making your own"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "country more prosperous, but also stable"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "and cleaner and better for its own"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "citizens. It can't just be, oh, Paul"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Singer gets rich, therefore it's a good"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "thing. No, no, no. All Americans, not"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "just Paul Singer, have to benefit from"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "this. And they can, and they absolutely"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "can. And the president, to his great"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "credit, has made a huge effort to clean"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "up American cities. Washington DC, for"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "example. People mocked him for sending"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "the National Guard in. Washington is"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "safer. Just a fact. He did that. The"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "last guy didn't do that. Trump did that."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Keep doing that. Remember, an empire"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "should be impressive. Not just its"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "satellites or its colonies, but the but"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "the mother country should be impressive."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "And ours can be. It is inherently, but"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "the point of this is to help us."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "And the last thing to remember about"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "being an empire is that it can corrupt"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "you. And this is the fate ultimately of"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "all empires. They are corrupted by the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "imperial project. And they become"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "coarser."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "As Rome grew, as its territory grew, so"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "did the number of people dying in Circus"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Maximus."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "So that does happen over time, but fight"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "back against it. You want to retain the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "fundamental decency of your country."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Even as you expand, as you take"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Greenland and take Venezuela, wherever"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "else we're going, you need to remember"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "we are decent people and we're going to"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "continue to live as though we are with"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "dignity. you are not going to become"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "hardened"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "by the violence that you sometimes"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "commit on other populations. And that is"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "really difficult to maintain."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "And you see this even in Washington,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "Americans have to remember that the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "point of this exercise is to secure the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "homeland and everything good about it."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And one of the very best things about"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "the United States is the regard that"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Americans have for human life and for"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "dogs. There's a sweetness and a"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "sentimentality to Americans that would"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "be sad as hell if we lost."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Don't allow the killing that takes place"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "overseas to make you think it's okay for"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the US government to treat you that way."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "So, the first thing you want to do, and"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Trump has said this a million times"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "before he became president, um the first"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "thing you want to do is make sure that"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Russia and China don't align because all"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "of a sudden there's a block much more"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "powerful than you in charge of the world"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "and you do their bidding, which is going"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "to happen at this rate."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> But right now, uh we are going to do"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "something on Greenland whether they like"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "it or not. Uh because if we don't do it,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Russia or China will take over Greenland"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "and we're not going to have Russia or"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "China as a neighbor. And so to make"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Russia the enemy when there's absolutely"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "no reason to make Russia the enemy at"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "all. We did it on purpose. We provoked"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Russia into invading eastern Ukraine by"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "moving NATO eastward. Obviously"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> they told us this a million times. We"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "did it on purpose. Why? 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It's not"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "about Zalinski stealing money or what."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Okay. Yeah, got it. That's all true, by"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "the way. But that's not what this is"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "about. This is about the contest between"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the United States and China. I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "think we need to win that, but I would"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "like a sphere of influence where we can"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "make western decisions and avoid"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "collective punishment, for example, and"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "preserve our system without China being"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "in charge of everything. But once you"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "take Russia and move it into China's"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "camp, you're done. And that's exactly"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "what Lindsey Graham and his friends have"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "done. I mean, well, just it's not my job"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "to defend Putin. And in fact, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "defending him. I'm just noting what is"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "true, which is that Putin is this is the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "most moderate leader you're going to get"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "in Russia, which is to say he's the most"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "pro-western leader you're going to get"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "in Russia, the least authoritarian"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "leader you're going to get in Russia."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "And he's not an absolute leader. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "he he rules a coalition, which is not"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "public, but it's the obvious"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "stakeholders in Russia, Russian society,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "FSB, military, business,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> and there is a dance that goes on all"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "the time. He's a very capable"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "politician, but he's not an absolute"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "monarch. There are no absolute monarchs"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "in this world. Period. That's not the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "way it actually works. So r Russia is"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "being led by a guy who asked to join"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "NATO in 2001. He he asked to join NATO"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "and we kept him out. And the question is"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "why? Why do we want to be at war with"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Russia? We clearly do. And I think big"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "picture with the vantage of like a"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "hundred years from now, you will see we"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "are doing the bidding of China. our"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "leaders are doing the bidding of China"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "because if Western Europe, the Americas,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "and Russia are roughly on one team,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "aligned at least in trade, um, and also"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "in values, it's a Christian country. One"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "of the reasons they hate it so much,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "main reason they hate it so much. But if"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "they're all aligned, then that's balance"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "in the world. That's Iran, Iraq, okay?"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "And we can kind of probably live with"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "that peacefully. But if you again align"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "Russia with China, there's no balance."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "We lose and we're going to be ordered"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "around by our Chinese masters who don't"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "respect the things that we love the most"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "about the United States. Its natural"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "resources, its nature, the sort of"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "gentle way we deal with each other, the"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "First Amendment, all that is gone. So"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that's our future because of people like"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Lindsey Graham and you know, and there"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "are a lot of them. this disaster as many"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "authors, but that's what's my view."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "That's what's actually happening. And"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "you know, Russians are not Americans."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "They're Europeans, but they're also part"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Mongol. And they're they think a little"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "bit differently. You know, the culture"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "is recognizable. It's you've been there."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "It's an amazing amazing country."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> And I'm not required to pretend it's not"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "cuz I've been there a few times. Um, it"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "is, but they think differently and"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "there's a seriousness about them that"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "it's not American at all. I'm not a very"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "serious person. I'm from California."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Like everything's kind of a joke to me."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "That's not the Russian perspective at"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "all. They're serious and they're"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "history-minded. They're mathminded"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "and they feel that they're in a in a"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "really consequential fight for the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "future of their country. So, it's like"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "there's not a lot of about women when"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "you're at least with me uh with Putin,"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "but he's he's a serious guy who feels"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "the burden of his office. I mean, leave"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "the United States, leave Western Europe,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "as I often do because I think the world"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "is super interesting and important, and"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "ask people what they think of Putin."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "And you know it he's like the most loved"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "leader in the world after Modi I think"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "is number one but Putin's right there"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "with the rest of the world. Why is that?"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Because Russia was in terrible shape in"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "2000. Terrible shape. Just life"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "expectancy alone was you know subwestern"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "and now it's much much stronger and"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Putin deserves a lot of the credit for"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "that. And so in the end leaders are"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "judged by the job they do for their"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "people. That's how we measure success in"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "leadership. How do your You're a father."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "How are your kids? You're an officer."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "How are your men? You're a president."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "How's your country? It's it's super"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "simple. It's not complicated. Victoria"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Nuland doesn't get to design the measure"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "of leadership in a foreign country. The"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "people who live in that country do. And"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "he's done a pretty darn good job. And"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "the rest of the world sees it. This is"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "also insane."}]

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We've had now six"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "incidents in total."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> His name is Dr. Robert Epstein, trained"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "by BF Skinner, published in Nature,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "respected in every academic circle."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Until he asked the wrong question. What"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "if we're not as free as we think?"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> But what they have done more and more is"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "use very powerful techniques of mind"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "control uh to control people's thinking"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "and behavior literally around the world"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "on a massive scale and they know exactly"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "what they're doing. 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They offer up to $5 million in"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "identity theft insurance to help you"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "recover if someone gets a hold of your"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "information and tries to do real damage."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Don't wait until it's too late. Head"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "over to our link aura.com/anonymous"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "to try Aura free for 14 days. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "plenty of time for Aura to find out if"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "any of your personal data is exposed and"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "start protecting you from these threats."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "That is how Google's one of many methods"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "Google has has come up with in recent"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "years for getting your people's DNA"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "information into personal profiles. If"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "you can get DNA info in there, its value"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "goes up and up and up as more"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "discoveries are made about DNA and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "basically you can figure out what"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "diseases people are prone to that they"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "haven't even gotten yet. You can also"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "figure out which dads have been"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "cuckolded. There are I mean DNA,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "think about how much we know about DNA"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "right now, but then think ahead a year,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "two, five years. The DNA doesn't change."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "So that data has that's that's solid"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "gold that becomes that goes up in value."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Like the value of gold itself, it just"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "keeps going up in value."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Not only this, in 2020, the New York"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Times reported that Google offered to"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "help manage a national DNA database"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "voluntarily and at no cost. But this"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "isn't just about test tubes and lab"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "codes. Google also owns Nest, the smart"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "thermostat company. In 2019, Business"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Insider revealed that several Nest"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "devices included undocumented"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "microphones without any disclosure or"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "public announcement. They were always on"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "hardware in people's homes. Google"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "called it a mistake. Critics called it a"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "glimpse into a system that already sees"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "and hears more than you think. Here's"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "the truth. We didn't lose our privacy."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "We gave it away for cheaper gadgets, for"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "cleaner dashboards, for one more feature"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "on our wrist. But now Google doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "just know where you go or what you"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "watch. It knows what your body is made"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of and where your bloodline leads. You"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "thought you were signing up for"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "convenience. What you really signed up"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "for was ownership."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> They just start out innocently and then"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "someone or other realizes"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "uh that they can use this to to change"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "people's thinking and behavior."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Let me tell you this. Before Google was"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "a household name, before Chrome, before"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Gmail, before the maps in your pocket,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "it was just an academic experiment at"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Stanford. But even back then, powerful"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "eyes were watching. I think we have to"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "be fair here. The intelligence agencies,"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "this is they were talking, we're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the '9s, so there was barely an"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "internet. And the intelligence agencies,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "they had meetings about this growing"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "internet thing. And they were worried"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "about how it could pose a threat to"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "national security. And one very"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "legitimate concept that they were"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "working with was that if there's more"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and more information posted out there"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "and if someone wants to build a bomb"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "that's going to be the first place they"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "go. They're not going to go to their"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "public library."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> They're going to they're going to go to"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "this new internet which at that point"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "was easy to use anonymously. So when"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "they were talking and to some extent"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "providing uh fund funding to people"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "building these new these new search"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "engines which are just basically big"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "indices indexes right"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> to what's on the growing internet"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> they basically were saying we we want to"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "be able to track people who are looking"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "stuff up"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> especially certain stuff Google yes they"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "started out with with help from"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "intelligence agencies yes they were"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "definitely encouraged to uh to preserve"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "search histories."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> One of those tools was Google's now"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "famous algorithm, PageRank. On the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "surface, it sorted websites by"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "importance, but at its core, it measured"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "intention, what people cared about, who"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "they trusted, what they were likely to"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "click next. It was a calculated"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "prediction engine for desire. The deeper"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "you go into Google's early funding and"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "academic partnerships, the more it"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "starts to look less like a tech company"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "and more like a behavioral weapon. one"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "designed not just to organize"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "information, but to study, steer, and"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "eventually shape the species that"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "created it. And somewhere along the way,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "it stopped being a tool. It became the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "master. If you now think that's the end"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "of the story, it's not. We're only"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "halfway down the rabbit hole. In 2019, a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Google insider broke the silence. Zack"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Vorhees, a senior engineer at the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "company, walked out with over 950 pages"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "of internal documents and handed them to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Project Veraritoss. The files weren't"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "theories. They weren't drafts. They were"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "operational systems with names like"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "YouTube blacklists, controversial search"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "queries, fake news watch, and fringe"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "ranking classifiers. Each of them was"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "designed to do the same thing. Control"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "visibility quietly without notice. If a"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "video, article, or creator didn't fit"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the preferred framework, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "banned outright. It was just pushed into"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "digital obscurity. You could still say"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "what you wanted. You just wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "seen. When the leak went public, Google"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "didn't deny these systems existed. They"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "called them part of their quality"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "control infrastructure. But who decides"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "what qualifies, what counts as truth,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "what gets ranked or removed? Dr. Epste"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "reveals it all."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> There's a section there on uh how Google"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "makes those decisions. And I have and"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "I'm quoting from an internal document at"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Google. It's about a 100page document"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "that's meant for to train people to make"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "those decisions about what content to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "suppress. M"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> so I quote actual language from this"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "internal uh training manual and you're"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "you're just kind of guessing but when"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "you actually see what's in the training"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "manual you don't have to guess anymore"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "because what it says over and over and"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "over again I think 22 times over and"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "over again says well when you can't"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "quite make up your mind just use your"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "best judgment. It gives tremendous"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "personal discretionary authority to the"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "people making these decisions and th"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "those people are used to train the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "algorithms that are now making a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "those decisions."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> And then for 40 minutes the mask"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "slipped, the filters fell away and the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "world saw what it really means when"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Google decides to flip the switch. It"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "happened on January 31st, 2009. For just"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "over 40 minutes, Google flagged every"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "website on the internet as harmful."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Every single link was marked with a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "digital stop sign. Millions of users"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "froze. Platforms crashed. The warning,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "\"This site may harm your computer.\" But"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the sites weren't harmful. It was Google"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "itself throwing the switch. The company"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "later called it a human error, a rogue"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "update in their safe browsing tool. But"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "some cyber security analysts weren't"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "convinced. They saw the event as"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "something else entirely, a failsafe"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "test, a controlled experiment to see"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "what would happen if Google suddenly"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "decisively pulled the plug. At that"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "time, stock markets were closed. The"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "damage was minimal. But the message"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "couldn't have been clearer. Google"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "doesn't just connect the world. It can"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "disconnect it at will. And the scariest"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "part, it didn't need to touch your files"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "or your thoughts. Just one silent update"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "and reality as you knew it was offline."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "So when a courtroom finally called"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Google to the stand, you'd think the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "right questions would follow."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> They're still in the remedy phase of two"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "big federal trials. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> those are going to determine very"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "possibly those might bring about some"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "big changes in the company and possibly"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "enormous loss of revenue."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> But they didn't because sometimes a"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "trial isn't about justice. It's about"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "keeping the real crimes off the record."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> These cases are are are shams. Oh, they"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "were designed, as far as I'm concerned,"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "it is my opinion, that these these cases"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "were designed by Google's lawyers."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> In January 2023, the US Department of"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Justice filed a high-profile lawsuit"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "against Google. On paper, it looked"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "serious. An antitrust case accusing the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "tech giant of monopolizing the digital"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "ad market. News anchors debated it."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Headlines called it a reckoning. But the"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "questions no one asked were the most"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "important ones about surveillance,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "psychological profiling, and mind"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "manipulation. That part was left"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "untouched again. Dr. Robert Epstein said"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "it best in a 2023 podcast interview with"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "The Hill. Even if they're forced to sell"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Chrome, Google wins. It gives the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "illusion of accountability while hiding"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "the real levers."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> So what would happen? You're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "force them to sell off Chrome."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "I said, \"Who cares?\" I said, \"What?\" I"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "said I said if you force them to sell"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "off Chrome, I said they'll get $500"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "billion in cash for the sale cuz they do"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "get paid,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> So, you force them to sell off Chrome. I"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "said, \"And they still get all the data.\""}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "He said, \"How would they get all the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "data?\" I said, \"Well, whoever now owns"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Chrome is still going to use Google's"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "quarantine list to check and make sure"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "every website is safe before they take"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "anyone there. So Google gets all the"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "same information or most of the same"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "information or Google could pay them."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> They could have a back door they don't"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "even know about."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> They could also build in a 100 back"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "doors."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> He's not a politician. He's not selling"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "a belief system. What he's trying to"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "preserve is something a lot more"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "fragile. Your ability to think for"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "yourself. So here's what we're left"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "with. Not just a search engine, but a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "silent architect of thought. A system"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that watches, nudges, rewrites, and"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "calls it convenience. Dr. Epstein didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "expose a glitch in the Matrix. He showed"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "us the Matrix is real. And if we don't"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "start questioning what's being shown to"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "us, the next belief they rewrite might"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "be your own."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Before I testified, one of a"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "high-ranking executive from Google"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "testified. And the man under oath was"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "asked by I think Senator Josh Holly,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "\"Does Google have any blacklists?\" And"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "he replied,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "\"No, Senator, we do not.\""}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Three weeks later, that's when that is"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "when Vorhees documents are made public."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "And there's a bunch of them called that"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "are labeled blacklist. Now, think of the"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "arrogance. Think of the arrogance. If I"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "were running Google, excuse me, but if I"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "were running Google and I was I had a"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "bunch of blacklists, I would not call"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "them blacklists."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> I might call them shopping lists,"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> you know, anything but blacklists. I'd"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "call them purple lists."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> According to him, it isn't about market"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "dominance anymore. It's about"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "consciousness dominance. Because if a"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "company owns the way people think, what"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "does it matter who owns the software?"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "The lawsuits feel loud, but the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "manipulation remains quiet. And that's"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "by design. What the world sees is a"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "regulatory battle over money and ads."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "What's actually happening is deeper."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "It's about a system preserving its power"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "while the justice system trims a few"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "leaves off the branches. And you can't"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "fight what you can't see. That's why Dr."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Epste built a surveillance system of his"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "own. Not to monitor people, but to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "monitor Google. He calls it the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "monitoring project, where agents"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "simulate real users. They browse, they"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "search, they scroll, all while the"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "system logs what Google shows them. No"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "theory, just data."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Samsung issued this updated uh warning"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "or whatever you want to call it on their"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "products that that this may be"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "happening. Sort of an ominously worded"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "document, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> It was a little ominous. It said,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "[music] you know, be careful about what"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "you say in front of the television. Try"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "not to have any sensitive conversations"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "in your living room because the TV is"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "going to be recording what you say."}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> If you just bought a smart TV, the FBI"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "is also issuing a warning over those"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "devices. So, what this means is I could"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "be sitting here [music] watching TV from"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "my from my bedroom and you could be"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "anywhere in the world [music] looking at"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "this image of me watching."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> You've done everything right. Strong"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "passwords, privacy settings, even"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "[music] tape over your webcam. You're"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "careful with your phone and laptop. But"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "there's one device you probably never"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "worried about. The smart TV sitting"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "quietly in your living room. It plays"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "your favorite shows, responds to your"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "voice, and looks harmless, but behind"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "that screen, it might be watching your"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "back. In 2019, the FBI warned that smart"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "TVs can be hijacked by hackers and even"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "used to spy through built-in cameras and"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "microphones. So, if the threat is"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "sitting right there in your home, the"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "question is, how much of your life is"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "being seen and sold without you knowing"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Really scary stuff when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "these smart TVs."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, I don't know about you, Vlad."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "The last time I bought a phone that was"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "a nons smartphone, it's a long time ago."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Same thing with your television. And"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "just like we have to lock our phones"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "down and our home computers down, now we"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "have to lock down all of these smart"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "devices in our living rooms, including"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "our televisions."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": ">> But while your attention is on the"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "screen, your smart TV is doing more than"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "just showing you content. It's quietly"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "taking notes, snapping images of what's"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "being displayed. Not a couple here and"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "there, up to 30 full frames every"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "minute, even if you haven't touched the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "remote. According to US patent"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "10,951,698B1"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "filed by Inscape data services. This"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "isn't a hidden bug or random glitch."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "It's built into the system, [music] part"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "of a process called real-time visual"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "sampling. Even when your TV appears to"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "be in standby mode, it's still scanning"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "what's on the screen and collecting that"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "data. They call it smart interactivity."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "[music] Sounds helpful, but not really"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "for you. So, what this means is I could"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "be sitting here watching TV from my from"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "my bedroom and you could be anywhere in"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "the world looking at this image of me"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "watching."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Yep. I could be sitting on a laptop in a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "cafe in Paris and as long as I have"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "network connection, I'd be able to get"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "into your TV and access the camera."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> The kind of scary things about it is"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "that it doesn't actually give any"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "indication that the camera's on. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "there is no little LED that shows up"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "when the camera's on. 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And in every case that I'm aware"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "of, these companies have eventually"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "turned over the recordings."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> And this researcher has proven that our"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "phones are even uploading data about us"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "even when our phones are off."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> Everything you do on an unsecured"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "network [music] is at risk. Your"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "passwords, credit card info, and even"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "sensitive work documents could be"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "exposed to prying [music] eyes. 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No"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "complicated setup required. [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "That's why we use Private Internet"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Access. Get 83% off and 4 months free"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "using our link for a limited time."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "[music] You can click the link in the"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "description to try it out today."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Do you know that we all have a secret"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "digital profile collected by our two"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "smart smart TVs? So, how exactly does"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "our TV know so much about us? It all"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "comes down to something called ACR or"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "automatic content recognition. This"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "technology is built right into many"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "smart TVs, and it's far more powerful"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "than most people realize. ACR works by"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "not only taking screenshots, but also"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "listening to the audio coming from your"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "screen. Then it compares that content to"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "a massive database of shows, ads,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "[music] and scenes to figure out exactly"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "what you're watching and when. It's not"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "just about knowing the channel or app."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "You're being tracked down to the second."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "There are also reports that smart TVs"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "themselves are watching what you do and"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "reporting the data back to the company"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "that is that that made the devices. So"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "what kind of information are they using?"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Well, just think about your phone and"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "all of the important information that's"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "available on your phone created by"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "applications. So on your smart TV there"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "might be Netflix, there might be uh"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "YouTube and all of these applications"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "just like the apps on your phone, they"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "talk to not just the device maker back"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "home uh but they talk to each other and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "they send information between each"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "other. So uh much of the that"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "information is just as vulnerable as"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "anything on your phone and if it has a"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "your TV has a weak or non-existent"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "password, all of that information is"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "accessible by cyber attackers."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> According to Dr. Peter Snider's 2021"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "research at Brave. ACR doesn't just"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "collect what you stream online. It can"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "also grab data from what you watch"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "through HDMI like DVDs or game consoles."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "So, even if you're playing an offline"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "video game or watching an old disc, your"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "TV still knows what's going on and logs"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the details. A 2018 report from UC"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Berkeley titled Watching You Watch"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "confirmed that ACR was present in"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "millions of TVs from brands like Vizio,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Samsung, and [music] LG. What's worse is"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "that these hidden features are often"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "turned on by default with opt-out"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "settings hidden behind vague or"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "misleading menu options. You thought you"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "brought home a television to watch"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "content, but what you really brought"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "home was a two-way system, one that"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "watches you back constantly and builds a"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "detailed profile of your habits,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "preferences, and routines, even your"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "banking credentials. It does it without"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "ever needing your permission."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Conceivably, what could they be using"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "this data [music] for? Well, for the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "same data uh the same reason you might"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "want to siphon information off of your"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "phone, that's pretty useful not just to"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "hackers, but to big data companies."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "However, what's really interesting is"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "this new practice called cookie syncing."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "That is when I have a cookie, that's a"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "little piece of data on my computer or"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "my phone that identifies my browser and"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "what I'm doing uh on that phone or with"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "the applications. I can then sign into"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "accounts. those accounts I'm also signed"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "into on my television. And it lets me or"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "it lets device makers sync the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "information between uh my TV, my phone,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "and my computer. So, you can have a"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "pretty good idea of who someone is and"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "their habits. But the real danger is"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "[music] um when people start using smart"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "TVs for things like online banking, we"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "can take [music] a popular bank address"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "and translate that into um a different"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "IP address to a site [music] that that"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "directs to a site that we control. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "it may look like your bank's login, but"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "you're actually entering a username and"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "password that goes to us instead of your"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "bank."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> Smart TVs are constantly logging your"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "personal information and feeding them"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "into the global ad economy where data"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "brokers and advertising networks eagerly"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "buy it up."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> That data then sits there and it sits"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "there for another company to use um"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "perhaps through advertising. There's an"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "advertising component to all of this. um"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "it sits there to be hacked at some point"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "later on in the future and it sits there"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "for the the government to access it"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "should uh they decide to do that."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> That same study estimated that your"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "viewing profile can sell for anywhere"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "from $5 to $15 depending on how detailed"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "and targetable it is. The study also"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "found that children's viewing data is"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "especially valuable because advertisers"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "use it for something called early"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "behavioral modeling. Basically, by"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "studying what kids watch now, they try"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "to predict and influence how they'll"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "behave in the future. That kind of data"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "can drive ad prices up by as much as"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "30%. A 2022 report from the Canadian"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Radio Television and Telecommunications"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Commission or CRTC showed that 70% of"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "people had no idea this was happening at"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "all. No clue their movie nights were"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "turning into marketable data. With a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "smart TV, you're not just a viewer"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "anymore. You've become a product quietly"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "sold to the highest bidder every time"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "you hit play. For years, smart TV"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "companies quietly collected data while"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "no one was really paying attention. But"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "in 2017, things started to unravel. That"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "year, the Federal Trade Commission or"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "FTC, filed a complaint against Vizio,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "one of the biggest smart TV"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "manufacturers in the US. The FTC"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "revealed that 11 million Vizio TVs had"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "been collecting detailed viewing data"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "down to what shows were watched and"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "when, and selling it to third parties."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "What made it worse, they did it without"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "ever getting clear consent from users."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "In the end, Vizio settled the case,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "agreeing to pay $2.2 million and delete"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "all the data they had just gathered."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "This made headlines for exposing just"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "how far this kind of surveillance had"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "already gone. The FTC and the New Jersey"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Attorney General's office reached an"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "understanding with Vizio. The TV"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "manufacturer is going to pay $2.2"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "million in a settlement after the FTC"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "found the TV manufacturer had used 11"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "million of its TV sets to spy on the"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "owners of those sets. But that wasn't"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "the end of it. In 2020, things got"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "heated again with a multi-dist"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "LG, Samsung, and Sony. Plaintiffs argued"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "that these companies were violating the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Video Privacy Protection Act, as well as"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "various state level consumer privacy"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "laws. People weren't just upset about"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "being watched. They demanded"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "compensation. The lawsuit claimed that"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "each affected person should be paid $100"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "for every day their privacy was violated"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "with a maximum payout of $10,000 per"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "person. Meanwhile, overseas, regulars"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "also started digging. In 2023, the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "European Data Protection Board or EDPB"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "launched investigations into firmware"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "updates by Samsung and LG that were"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "silently resetting privacy settings,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "turning tracking features back on after"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "users had opted out. All of this caught"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the attention of digital rights"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "advocates. Jeff Chester, director of the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Center of Digital Democracy, testified"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "before Congress in 2020. He called smart"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "TV tracking the most invasive, invisible"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "form of commercial surveillance today."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "And honestly, it's hard to disagree with"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "that. Now, you think after government"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "investigations and multi-million dollar"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "fines, these companies would back off."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "But the truth is, the tracking never"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "really stopped. Your TV keeps working"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "silently in your living room. Marketers"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "are more committed to developing data"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "analysis skills in coming years than"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "social media skills."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Turning off tracking on your smart TV"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "might feel like you're taking control,"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "but it's not as solid as it [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "seems. The truth is, most opt out"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "settings aren't really built to protect"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "you. They're built to look like they"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "are. A 2022 study published in the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "journal Technology and Privacy found"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "that just getting to the privacy"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "settings usually takes 8 to 10 clicks"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "buried deep inside menus that most"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "people never even explore. And even if"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "you manage to find and switch everything"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "off, the protection might only be"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "temporary. According to the 2023 privacy"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "reset study by University College"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "London, around 60% of major smart TV"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "brands silently turn tracking features"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "back on after firmware updates. No"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "pop-ups or prompts. it just quietly"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "resets in the background."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> Well, what's going on when you're"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "talking to the television is that it's"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "capturing your voice and translating it"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "into text uh through a third party"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "through another company and then trying"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "to send the control back to the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "television. The problem is that when you"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "have that sort of software and the"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "microphone on all the time, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "collecting a lot of information about"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "what you might say in the privacy of"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "your own living room."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> TV makers defend this behavior with"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "legal loopholes. They often redefine"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "personal data in their terms of service,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "conveniently excluding things like your"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "viewing history, your HDMI input"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "metadata. That means they can keep"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "logging what you watch even after you've"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "opted out and still claim they're"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "respecting your privacy. The Electronic"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Frontier Foundation or EFF calls this"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "practice consent washing, a legal trick"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "to give you the illusion of choice while"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "quietly ignoring it. So, when you click"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "off, your TV might still be tracking,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "analyzing, and sharing your behavior"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "like nothing ever changed. Even if you"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "somehow have managed to block tracking"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "on your smart TV, the moment you open"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Prime, the data"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "collection kicks back in. These services"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "build full behavioral profiles, and they"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "start doing it the second you log in."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Netflix, for example, gives you the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "option to hide your viewing history, but"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "it doesn't delete anything. According to"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "their 2022 transparency report, the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "information stays on their servers,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "helping power the recommendation engine"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "and targeted ads."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> In a statement to CNN Money, Samsung"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "says it takes consumer privacy very"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "seriously. The camera can be turned into"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "the bezel of the TV so that the lens is"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "covered or disabled by pushing the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "camera inside the bezel. [music] The TV"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "owner can also unplug the TV from the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "home network when the smart TV features"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "are not in use. [music] As an added"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "precaution, we also recommend that"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "customers use encrypted wireless access"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "points [music] when using connected"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "devices."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> Amazon Prime Video has a setting to turn"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "off interest based ads, which sounds"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "promising, but in reality, all it does"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "is stop the ads from being tailored to"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "your behavior. It doesn't stop Amazon"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "from collecting the data in the first"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "place. Hulu 2 technically gives users"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "control, but the full privacy settings"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "are tucked away under California privacy"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "rights, a section most users will never"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "even click. And then there's a bigger"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "problem. Cookie syncing and account"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "linking. A 2021 audit by Northeastern"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "University found that major streaming"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "platforms sync your user ID across"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "devices, your phone, your laptop, your"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "smart TV. So even if you delete your"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "history in one place, another device"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "might still hand it back over. Most"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "people think the worst thing your smart"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "TV can do is show them weird ads. But"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the truth is a lot more serious. These"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "TVs can actually open the door to real"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "security risks. According to a 2020"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "report by Checkpoint Research, many"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "smart TVs ship with weak factory default"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "credentials like admin or 0000. That"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "means anyone who knows your brand, and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "most hackers do, can break in remotely"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "with hardly any effort. Models with"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "voice control and gesture features often"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "come in with built-in microphones and"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "hidden cameras. You might not even"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "realize it, but if those sensors aren't"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "secured, they can be activated without"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "your knowledge. A 2022 study by Carnegie"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Melon University warned about"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "unauthorized sensor access caused by"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "unpatched or poorly designed firmware."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "They are trying to tell us that our"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "smart TV could be a backdoor into our"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "home."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": ">> Samsung issued this updated uh warning"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "or whatever you want to call it um on"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "their products that that this may be"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "happening. Sort of an ominously worded"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "document, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": ">> It was a little ominous. It it said, you"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "know, be careful about what you say in"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "front of the television. Try not to have"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "any sensitive conversations in your"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "living room because the TV is going to"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "be recording what you say and sending"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "that data off to another company."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> And once inside, it doesn't stop at the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "TV. Hackers have used smart TVs as an"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "entry point to tap into home Wi-Fi"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "networks, then move on to more sensitive"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "devices like smartphone, your laptop, or"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "even baby monitors. That's why even"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "people like Mark Zuckerberg and former"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Google engineers physically cover their"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "cameras and mics. It's not an"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "overreaction. It's basic protection."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Now, you might be thinking, \"Is there"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "any way to take back control?\" You can't"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "control what manufacturers hide in their"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "terms of service, but you can make it"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "harder for them to snoop on you. Start"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "by doing a factory reset on your smart"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "TV. Yes, it's annoying to relog into"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "everything, but this time, pay attention"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "during the setup. Read the prompts."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Don't just click agree on everything."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Look up how to disable ACR on your"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "specific TV model. For example, Samsung"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "calls it viewing information services,"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "while Vizio uses the term smart"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "interactivity. These features are often"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "turned on by default. Then go physical."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "If your TV has a camera or mic, cover it"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "with tape or a camera slider. It's a low"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "tech move, but it's effective. And if"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "you don't use streaming apps on your TV,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "consider disconnecting it from Wi-Fi"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "altogether. No internet means no"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "tracking. You may not be able to shut"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "down every single data stream, but you"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "can take enough steps to stop being an"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "easy target."}]

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You're going"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "to see a picture of treason, a picture"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "of the loss of sovereignty of our"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "nation, United States of America, not by"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "accident, but by design."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> It's the cloud and pivot strategy,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "America destroyed by design."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> G20 country has agreed to have this"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "digital certificate using WH standard."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "So hopefully for the next pandemic, we"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "can still see some movement of the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "people, some movement of the goods, and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "movement of the economy."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> It's going to be high-tech compact"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "cities, combat robots, and they're just"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "going to snap their fingers and turn the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "5G on. All of these platforms are"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "multi-use. You can modulate 5G and these"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "other systems and they're good for"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "communications and they still have major"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "cancer-causing effects of incrementally"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "hitting you from dozens of different"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "angles with different soft kill weapons."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "So that there's lots of different"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "symptoms, lots of different illnesses,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "lots of different forms of death. But"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "the life expectancy everywhere these"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "systems go in is plunging. The IQs are"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "plunging. The cognitive ability is"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "plunging. The neurological disorders are"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "exploding. And the heart problems. You"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "have to understand this kill grid's"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "going in. They didn't just hit us with"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "the CO 19 out of the lab. They are then"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "able to test and gauge the public and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "see if you wake up and see if you get"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "upset and see if they can normalize a 40"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "plus% rate in every western country."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "previous to any other year. 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That's"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "plenty of time for Aura to find out if"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "any of your personal data is exposed and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "start protecting you from these threats."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "If everybody's raising living standards"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "to the point where everybody's got a car"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "and everybody's got air conditioning and"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "everybody's got a big house,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "uh, well, the planet will boil over. Why"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "is war already started and why is more"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "war coming? Because they're at the end"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "of a currency bubble. They need a big"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "global emergency to be able to basically"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "make us forget that this is a giant"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Ponzi scheme that makes Bernie Maid off"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and FDX and the tulip mania uh that you"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "know happened hundreds of years ago pale"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "in significance."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Do you hate America?"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> No. You know, in fact, annoying many"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "inmates, I figure out we're sharing way"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "more common."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Maybe America is very much similar."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Look, it's the same size. They have a"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "it's the same kind of this. And when you"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "talk to them, there is nothing there"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "even to be about. We are naturally,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "you know, born not to be enemies. And"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "whenever there's conflict, it's elites."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "You know, every, you know, American I"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "met in a prison who is from rural area"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "was very easy to deal with. He has no"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "problem with Russia and he was curious"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "about Russia despite all propaganda."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "They're losing their Christian values."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "They're losing their families. They're"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "losing literally their countries. You'll"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "be laying in your bed one night. You'll"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "be driving down the highway after work"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "and there'll be big flashes you see. And"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "then 10 seconds later, your car is going"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "to be overturned, probably on fire. And"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "then life as you know it's over. literal"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "dark age with enough dust in the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "atmosphere to cause a mini ice age and"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "they estimate seven billion people will"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "die in a nuclear war. There'll be maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "500 million left existing expertise in"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "decarbonization and infrastructure. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "a perfect partnership."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> I completely agree with Larry. This is"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "going to be the golden age of"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "infrastructure investing both in terms"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "of the need for capital as well as"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "investors who want that capital. Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "In a move that's raising alarms across"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "the nation, Black Rockck through its"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "2024 acquisition of Global"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Infrastructure Partners or GIP has"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "surged into direct ownership of US"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "energy infrastructure. Black Rockck, one"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "of the largest asset managers on Earth,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "which owns just about everything,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "appears to be quietly buying up huge"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "pieces of the US energy grid. But don't"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "worry, they say it's all about building"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "infrastructure for artificial"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "intelligence. So don't worry about it."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Nothing to see here."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Shifting from passive investor to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "hands-on controller of critical"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "utilities and grids."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> The company Black Rockck that'sing"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "everybody in America. They're going TO"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "BE BUYING UTILITY companies now. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "right, UTILITY COMPANIES. They've"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "already purchased an electric company up"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "in Minnesota. you. They have plans to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "invest hundreds of billions of dollars"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "into the utility market here in the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "United States so you can watch your"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "electricity and gas bills go up to"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "nosebleleed levels."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> The Minnesota Public Utilities"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Commission approved a $6.2 2 billion"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "dollar takeover of Elite, parent of"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Minnesota Power, by a Black Rockck le"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "consortium with Canada Pension Plan in"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "October of 2025, granting private equity"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "majority control over power serving"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "150,000 customers. This 6.2 billion deal"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "follows months of debate and push back"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "from groups across Minnesota. It is not"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "always going to be in the financial best"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "interest of Black Rockck"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "to keep our rates as low as possible."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "That's not the business that they're in."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "They're in the business of making profit"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "from as many things as possible. I'm a"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Minnesota Power customer. So, if you"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "have read stories over the years about"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "beloved brands like Jo-Ann's or Red"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Lobster being driven into the ground by"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "private equity, now imagine if that was"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "your utility. because that's where"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "private equity sector is going. As they"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "have extracted all of the value out of"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "the retail and service sector that they"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "can, they are increasingly in turning"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "their attention to infrastructure and"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "the things that make up the material"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "basis of our lives."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> Meanwhile, GIP is in advanced talks for"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "a potential $ 38 billion acquisition of"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "AES Corporation, which is a major player"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "with renewable assets nationwide."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Larry's team drafts the game plan for"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "restructuring portfolios, valuing toxic"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "assets, and bailing out collapsing"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "banks. Larry Frink had turned the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "greatest financial disaster of a"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "generation into his greatest triumph."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "While American finance takes years to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "rebound, he emerges with friends in high"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "places, more money than ever, and what"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "he's always wanted, the influence of a"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "president, a company like a world power"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "without a single campaign nor a single"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "vote. True power. And while no one was"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "taking notice, he has created a playing"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "field where no matter what, Black Rockck"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "always wins. Thousands of miles of"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "overhead pylons will be erected to"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "connect offshore wind farms, solar"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "farms, data sheds, and millions of cars"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "and other renewable sources to that"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "national grid. In Texas, Black Rockck's"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "footprint grows via GIPowned firms like"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Eolan, developing massive battery"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "storage projects such as the Padua"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "complex near San Antonio to stabilize"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Urkott amid retiring fossil plants and"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "exploding AIdriven demand."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> Blackstone is currently in the process"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "of purchasing the Texas New Mexico grid."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Black Rockck actually started under"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Blackstone and while they still claim"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "that they're separate now, if you look"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "at their yearly reports and their"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "quarterly reports, they still push the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "ESG narrative. The Texas Attorney"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "General here has a lawsuit against Black"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Rockck for that very reason where they"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "were manipulating the grids and pushing"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "solar and wind technology and offsetting"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "coal and oil and gas because of them"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "pushing this ESG narrative. Consumer"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "advocates and experts warn of"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "profit-driven models loading debt onto"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the utilities, slashing accountability"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "and hiking residential bills to"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "subsidize big tech clients, eroding"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "public oversight of essential"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "infrastructure serving millions. And"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "private equity prioritizes returns over"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "resilience."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "On December 9th, 2025, I received a"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "legal demand letter from lawyers"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "representing Congressman"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Dan Krenshaw."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "They are threatening to sue me for"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "defamation because of comments I made on"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "my podcast about a message that he sent"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "me. I am sick and tired of watching"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "government officials and people in high"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "places try to silence and bully regular"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "American citizens. I'm sick of seeing"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "it. Somebody's got to stand up to this"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "[ __ ] It might as well be me. So, this"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "all transpired from a conversation that"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "I had with Tulsi Gabbard. That's when I"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "got the text or the message on Instagram"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "from Congressman Krenshaw"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "that I find threatening telling me he"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "spoke with his boys at 6. And just so"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you know, I mean, Dan does have a"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "history of threatening people. Once"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "again, here is Dan threatening to"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Tucker Carlson. And then again, he"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "reaffirms that he's not joking."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Have you ever met Tucker?"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "We've talked a lot on Twitter."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "He's the worst person."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Okay. So, I get the message. I take it"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "is extremely threatening."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "It is a tier one unit, the best, most"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "effective tier one unit in the world."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Deadliest unit."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "But I don't do anything. I move on. And"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "then a little over a year later, I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "interviewing oh, a member from Seal Team"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "6. Maybe he's one of Dan's boys at six."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "I'll give you another example. In the"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "height of my my issues, I contacted a"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "former SEAL. I won't name names, but he"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "has an eye patch and he's a congressman"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "out of a state."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> You mean Dan Krenshaw? I'm not naming"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "names."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Another one of my favorite people,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> sir. Here's my situation. You know, Dan"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Dan actually sent me a message. I should"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "[ __ ] read this to you, but basically"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "he tells me I brought something up about"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "him and I never even met I gave him the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "courtesy of not even mentioning his"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "[ __ ] name. It was about his birthday"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "party where he hired Steve Aoki to to DJ"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "his birthday. I mean, that can't be"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "[ __ ] cheap, right? Especially on a"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "congressman's s salary. And I brought"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "that up and Dan sends me a message that"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "says his boys over at six"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> are really upset with me that I brought"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "that up. And they're gonna they might"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "come beat me up."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> His boys at six."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> His boys over at six."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> Well, to infer he's got"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> I don't know why a congressman would be"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "threatening me with Seal Team Six, but"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "I'm still [ __ ] waiting. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "actually a couple years away. I still"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "have not had my ass kicked by a couple"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "of guys over at six. But Dan Crunch, he"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "fits with all these [ __ ] people"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "you're talking about."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> So I called him, right? He's a sitting"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "congressman. He's a former officer. And"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "drum roll please, he was getting ready"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "to release his book."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> So I call him up. I get a conversation"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "with him. I said, \"Sir, here's my"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "situation. I hired an attorney. The"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "attorney gave me bad advice. Book was"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "published. I've given up attorney client"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "privilege, cooperated everything I can"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "to to fix this. They've still come after"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "me. We can get into all the the other"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "stuff that I'm dealing with. Said, \"Sir,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "can you help me out with this?\" He's"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "like, \"Well, you know, I'm I'm about"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "ready to publish my book and I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "getting it reviewed.\" I'm like, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "sir, same same letter of the law that"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "they came after me for failure to seek"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "pre-publication review. I didn't get"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "pre-publication review because my lawyer"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "told me I didn't have to, and he could"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "do it.\" Like in your case, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "have to get it reviewed. I'm here"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "telling you, confirming you have to get"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "reviewed or the government's going to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "come after you. He's like, \"Yeah, no,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "but I'm not going to write anything"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "classified in my book.\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "\"There's nothing classified in my book.\""}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "They they said there was, they went"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "through it, they said, \"Nope, there's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "nothing classified in it. You just"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "failed to seek review.\" I'm like, \"So,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "if I only thing I failed to do was seek"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "review,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "you're willingly going around that"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "obligation and you don't give a shit.\""}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "He's like, \"Yeah, but I I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "write about anything classified in my"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "book."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "That was the answer. Never talked to him"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "So, he published his book. No review."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Nothing's happened. He's kept his money."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "He's a sitting congressman. I got a"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "payment plan. I'm interested in the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "the elimination of white people."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Targeting people on the basis of their"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "race for destruction is the reason we"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "say we hate the Nazis. And yet, that's"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "absolutely happening globally in every"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "white country. And it's one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "leading causes of death in Canada is"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "this maids program. Is this these the"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "machines that these"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> It could be machines. It's you know the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "state is licensed to kill its citizens."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "The citizens just goes in and said I I"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "want to be killed and they kill you. Joe"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Biden standing up and being like the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "main problem in America is white racism"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "from white men. Said that on tape many"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "times. It's always wrong to hurt people"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "or help others to elevate some and"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "suppress others on the basis of their"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "race. I thought that was the basis of"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "our common culture. They told me it was."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "They put a monument on the mall to that"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "which I totally believe in. Judge a man"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "by the content of his character, not the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "color of his skin. I grew up with that."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "I believe it. I believe it now. If you"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "need more examples, I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "they could be. That people can totally"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "change. Has nothing to do with how you"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "were born. It's what you become."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "And that's my that's my deepest belief."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "So if I sound defensive, it's because we"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "have all been trained to ignore this"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "amazing thing that's never happened"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "before in history where one group of"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "is being destroyed and and of course"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "have internalized that and are now"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "enthusiastically participating in their"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "own destruction and the death of an"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "entire group of people. And it really is"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "like if you go to Great Britain, it's"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "the whites can't wait to kill"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "It's in Canada, same thing. They have"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "the maids program which is state"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "sponsored killing of its own citizens."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Physician assisted suicide. No, it's the"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "state encouraging people to kill"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "themselves. And it's one of the leading"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "causes of death in Canada is this maids"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "program."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> Is this these machines that these"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> it could be machines? It's you know the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "state is licensed to kill its citizens."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "the citizen just goes in and said, \"I I"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "want to be killed.\" And they kill you."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "And basically for any reason, mental"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "health problems, financial problems, a"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "lot of poor people are just like, \"I I"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "feel like I'm a burden to the country. I"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "want to go die.\" And and the state will"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "kill you. It's one of the leading causes"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "of death in Canada. So the numbers came"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "out yesterday. Well, who's doing this?"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "So Canada is about 65% white, something"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "like that. It's completely changed."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Heavily heavily South Asian"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and uh Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "and lots of other peoples. You know,"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "it's massive immigration, massive,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "massive immigration into Canada. But"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "who's being killed by the state in"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Canada? It's like 97% legacy whites,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "literally."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "And what the hell is that? And of"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "course, these are people who have been"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "told and now believe that like they're a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "burden to society. It's selfish to have"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "children. They've been totally"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "brainwashed into mass suicide."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "And of course, none of this is affecting"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "my family. We're we have the opposite"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "views. We're not proud to be white."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "We're not white because we chose to be"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "white. We just happen to be born white."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "So, it's nothing to be proud of. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "just a fact. On the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "targeting people on the basis of their"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "race for destruction is the reason we"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "say we hate the Nazis."}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "And yet, that's absolutely happening"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "globally in every white country."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "United States, and Canada. That's an"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "accident. It's not an accident at all."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "And no one will say anything about it."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "And why wouldn't you say something like"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "what is if that by the way if that were"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "happening in India? Like we got too many"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Indians here. A billion Indians. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "too many Indians. We need more Africans"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "here. anyone Indian like here's a we can"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "kill you because you're a burden just"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "not have kids or take some SSRIs and"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "just benzo and weed and just zone out"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "until you die or whatever but like"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "you're bad"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "I would be like that's the sickest thing"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "I've ever seen like why do we hate"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "Indians I kind of like Indians or"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "whatever you would just be like why is"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "why why would we want to do that to them"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "what did they do wrong you know what I"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "mean I would just think that and that's"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "happening to whites globally at such to"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "speed and no one is saying anything"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "about it that I've decided"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "because I just want to tell the truth"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "about what I notice that I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "say something about it. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "totally wrong. I think it's totally"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "evil. Again, it's exactly what we said"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "we hated about the Nazis"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "and we're participating in it and I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "going to keep saying that no matter what"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "they say and they'll be like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "you're a white supremacist.\" No, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "And I have a lot of theories about what"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "this is and why."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> What is it? Why would they do it? Who is"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "they?"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": ">> Every globalist, the United Nations, the"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "United States government, State"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Department, all of our politicians. Joe"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Biden standing up and being like, \"The"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "main problem in America is white racism"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "from white men.\" Said that on tape many"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "times. And I can't wait till this is a"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "non-white majority country."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> What? Why would you? Okay, you could"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "argue about whether it's better or worse"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "as non-white, you know. Okay, you could"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "argue like the effects of it."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "But why would you want that? Why would"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "you look around the country and say"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "there's too many white people? And"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "that's the that's the official position"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "of every institution in the United"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "States. All of our schools. We give"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "preference to non-whites, non-white"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "males. Every single school, every single"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "big business, every single federal"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "contract"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "institutionally, we are opposed to"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "whites and white men. And it's we're so"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "marinating in it that no one stops and"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "says, \"Wait, what the hell is that?\""}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Again, that's why we hated the Nazis cuz"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "they did [ __ ] like That's why we say"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "segregation was wrong, which it was."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "That's why we hate Bull Connor. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "why we venerate Martin Luther King"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "because that's wrong. That way of"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "thinking is wrong. And by the way, it"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "doesn't matter what group is being"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "targeted. It is wrong in an absolute"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "sense. It's a universal principle. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "always wrong. Whether you're Pakistani"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "or Malaysian or Indian or from Myanmar"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "or from Minnesota, it's always wrong to"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "hurt people or help others to elevate"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "some and suppress others on the basis of"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "their race. I thought that was the basis"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "of our c of our common culture. And they"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "told me it was. They put a monument on"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the mall to that, which I totally"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "believe in. Judge a man by the content"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "of his character, not the color of his"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "skin. I grew up with that. I believe it."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "I believe it now. And we're doing"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "exactly the opposite. And it's so"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "totally pervasive, all pervasive, and"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "nothing has been done to reverse it at"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "all. We're mad about anti-semitism at"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Harvard, but which I am I'm against"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "anti-semitism completely for the same"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "reasons, but no one's lifted a finger to"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "address the actual problem, which is"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "like normal middle- class white kids"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "have no shot of going to Harvard."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "They're hated. The curriculum hates them"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "officially. Here's a book saying"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "whiteness is evil. Let's assign that."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "It's like if there was a book that says"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Jewishness is evil, we'd be like, no. Or"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "blackness is evil. No."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "So, this has gone on for really since"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the Second World War. And I think like"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "so many things that are bad."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "And if you say that, they're like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "you're for Hitler.\" No, I'm very"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "anti-Hitler. Hitler was anti-Christian"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "and a murderer. Destroyed his own people"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "and lots of other peoples, including"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Jews. And I'm totally opposed to all of"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "that. But it's just a fact that since"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "the second world war these trends which"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "are now flowering and we can see that"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "it's the end of something they began"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "then they began in 1945. What is that?"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "And I have a lot of thoughts about that"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "but one is that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "our leaders globally in the west took"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "away from World War II one big lesson"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "and that's that any white majority"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Christian country is a threat to world"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "peace to the order. you can't have a"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "majority white Christian country because"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Germany under the Nazis was majority"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "white Christian. Now, of course, the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Nazis were not a Christian government."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "They were an anti-Christian government"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "that killed a lot of priests. But"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "whatever, that has somehow become a kind"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "of unspoken consensus"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "among many of our leaders. In fact, I"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "would say almost all of our leaders,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "they're embarrassed of tons of white"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "people in the same place. Look at Look"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "at that picture. That doesn't look like"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "America."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "And none of us have ever said anything"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "like, \"Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "You're attacking people on the basis of"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "their race. Isn't that what you say you"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "hate that we're all against? But you're"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "doing it. Why don't you stop that"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "immediately?\" No one has ever had the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "balls to say that. And so, it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "proceeded a pace and it's become not"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "just a consensus, but like the reason"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "for everything."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "And the result of that is the total"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "destruction"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "of the white world. And there was a"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "white world. There was a Chinese world"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "to it and an Indian world and a Arab"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "world. There are lots of different"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "worlds or different peoples in the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "country. And I know them all. And I like"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "them all actually because I've been to"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "all their countries."}]

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And what"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "does that ultimately mean for humanity?"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Then essentially we do end up in sort of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "this helpless state where we become"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "dependent on machines to function."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "So I would encourage people if they want"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "to essentially know what's planned in"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "that scenario uh to go and read the book"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "written by Eric Eric Schmidt the former"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Google CEO I mentioned earlier and Henry"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Kissinger called the age of AI our human"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "future. 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And I think the way"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "to avoid that is very easily within the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "hands of anybody uh regardless of your"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "economic status or what your skills are."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Everybody can create something. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "you uh whittle things out of wood. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "you make music. Maybe you make art, uh"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "visual art or other, you know, woven"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "art. I don't know. There's all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "things people do. 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It's kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "funny because uh Schmidt and Kissinger"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "argue that these hallucinated realities,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "AI seeing realities that humans can't"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "observe mean that the reality must be"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "real because AI is so much more"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "intelligent than us. so that we should"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "believe, you know, whatever it sees"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "that's unobservable. 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I"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "would argue it's your soul, right? If"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "you just have AI make it, uh, the person"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "that's making it doesn't get the same"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "type of feeling they get if they"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "actually like engaged in the act of"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "making art themselves or with another"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "human, you know. So if we let our souls"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "atrophy because we're not doing anything"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "uh that you know have been fulfilling to"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "human souls for thousands of years uh"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "what does that ultimately mean? You know"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "it's interesting in in that same Schmidt"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Kissinger book they basically say that"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "um AI uh taking over will lead to one of"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "two consequences. Uh one of them is that"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "uh the the peasants rise up and"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "overthrow the elite. 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So we atrophy our souls and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "creativity um in in that spark that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "makes us human and outsource it to AI"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "and then it becomes a new religion. I"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "mean it's pretty crazy. Uh it makes me"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "think of the Greek myth of narcissists"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "where he falls in love with his"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "narcissist falls in love with his uh"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "reflection, you know. Uh, and I I think"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "it's uh that would definitely be a way"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "that gets us to that posthuman future."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "And it's something I think people should"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "uh resist because um you know there's"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "something important about humanity."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "There's obviously a reason that there's"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "sort of this push to sort of snuff that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "out. 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And it's up to anybody"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "if they choose what path they choose to"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "go down, whether they're going to go go"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "down the path of someone who who creates"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "and and can manifest and who can, you"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "know, actively do things and actively"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "make decisions and have preferences and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "and do these things that ultimately are"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "part of what defines humans, right? Or"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "if they're going to go down the path of"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "um I'm going to be lazy essentially and"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "let these machines do everything for me."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "But then you become either not"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "necessarily even part of the machine the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "m you you end up instead of the machine"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "serving you you end up serving the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "machine and I think that's how we get to"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "uh digital slavery quite fast if too"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "many people take that path. So um I"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "think there's a lot of things people can"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "do to you know resist these agendas but"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "I think that is a very easy and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "important very important thing for"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "people to do and consider. Um but I"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "think again it's people need to have red"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "lines about this type of stuff. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "just be aware of the risks. Um, and if"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "there's skills you have that are"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "important to you, uh, do your best to,"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "you know, maintain them. 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This is a two-way"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "street that binds the influence from the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "elite and us together. For we actively"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "perpetuate the problem when we live from"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "fear and scarcity, spreading it around"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "to each other like a nasty virus. Fear"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "can be used to corral people in all"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "manner of directions, to take actions"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "that are not in their best interest, or"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "to give up their power and control to"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "others."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Our"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "food. For the most part, all of the food"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "that we're eating today is toxic,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "designed to subdue our creative energy,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "making us easily addicted to things that"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "are unhealthy for us. 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Whether for financial gain"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "through the health defects that it"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "causes or for the purpose of disrupting"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "our connection to the spiritual plains."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Any quick search of a fluoride"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "conspiracy brings up notions that it"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "calcifies the pineal gland, the organ in"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "our brain that is often linked to"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "consciousness and the third eye. The"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "idea of the pineal gland being linked"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "with consciousness originally came from"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "the French philosopher Decart who argued"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "that the interaction between non-local"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "consciousness and the physical world"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "occurred inside of it. If you dig into"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "why water fluidation began, you find a"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "convoluted, suspicious mess, mostly"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "centering around the aluminum production"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "company Alcoa, who supposedly had a lot"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "of toxic waste to spare that took the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "form of fluoride as a byproduct of"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "aluminum production. After a single"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "biochemist who was sponsored by them,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "showed in a lab that fluoride affects"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "cavities in rats in 1939, so the story"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "goes, the first public proposal that the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "US should fluidate its water supplies"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "were made, not by a doctor, but by an"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "industry scientist."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Nowadays, our water is fluidated in over"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "24 countries, mostly in the Western"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "world. According to chemist and"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "researcher Charles E. Perkins who wrote"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the book The Truth About Water"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Fluoridation. Repeated doses of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "infantesimal amounts of fluoride will in"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "time reduce an individual's ability to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "resist domination by slowly poisoning a"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "certain area of the brain, thus making"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "them submissive to the will of those who"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "wish to govern them."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "While there are unsupported theories"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "that the Nazis used the chemical in"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "concentration camps or the USSR in their"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "goologs, the threat of fluoride isn't"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "just a theory. The work of Jennifer Luke"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "in the '90s showed that by old age, the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "pineal gland contains the same amount of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "fluoride as teeth, having been calcified"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "as we age. Further, a huge review on"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "fluoride toxicity published by the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "National Research Council in 2006"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "reported a range of negative side"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "effects from fluoride, including"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "decreased melatonin production and other"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "effects on normal pineal function, which"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "in turn could contribute to a variety of"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "bad effects in humans. 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The"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "bottom line is the benefit to risk ratio"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "on water fluoridation is unclear due to"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "a lack of good evidence with most people"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "not even knowing that they're drinking"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "it. If the conspiracy theories are to be"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "believed, professors doing this research"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "have been met with numerous attempts to"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "discredit them. Steven Peekham, director"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "of the Center for Health Services at the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "University of Kent and professor at the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "London School of Hygiene and Tropical"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Medicine at the University of Toronto,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "has had his research of water fluidation"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "rejected from dental health journals."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "He's even spoken out about being accused"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "of statistics hacking and for research"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "that made the link between fluoride and"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "hypothyroidism."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "It seems as though someone does not want"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "this info getting out."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Entertainment and subliminal messaging."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "The entertainment industry has been a"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "source of conspiracies for a long time"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "with often disturbing subliminal"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "messages in children's entertainment"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "such as references to suicide and sex"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "found in everything from Disney movies"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "to Spongebob. 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The people"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "running the news command more attention"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "by spreading this kind of information"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "because bad news gets more attention"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "than positive stories and therefore we"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "continue to create this reality. When"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "you are constantly looking at the world"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "in a negative light, you are not looking"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "at your own light. In fact, you don't"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "even know that there is light within"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "you. There is only darkness, shadows,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "and frightening imagery. And so, what"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "happens? But humanity falls further and"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "further into a world of self-created"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "delusion."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "It's also worth mentioning that even the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "local news is ultimately both written"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "for and controlled by a unified source."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Regardless of the network, just watch"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "this clip and you'll see how bad it"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "really is."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> Plaguing our country."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> The sharing of biased and false news has"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "become all too common on social media."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> The sharing of biased and false."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> False news has become all too common on"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "social media."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Unfortunately, some members have been"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "using their push their own personal"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "control exactly what people think and"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "this is extremely dangerous to our"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "democracy."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Mass surveillance."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> The Medal of Honor for revealing this"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "really goes to Edward Snowden, the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "whistleblower who brought to the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "collective attention how the Secret"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Service of the US and UK governments had"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "the ability to spy on literally"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "everyone, tracking metadata, watching"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "everywhere that you go and what you're"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "up to."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "The first program to be revealed was"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Prism, which allows for court approved"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "direct access to Americans Google and"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Yahoo accounts and everything in them."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Then came Tempora, a British black ops"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "surveillance program run by the NSA's"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "British partner, GCHQ."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "This includes stuff like call databases,"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "numbers, text messages, and even a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "secret court order requiring Verizon to"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "hand the NSA millions of Americans phone"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "records daily."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "One of Snowden's most frightening"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "statements came in 2013 when he"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "explained that by using the XkeyCore"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "program, I sitting at my desk could"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "wiretap anyone from you or your"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "accountant to a federal judge or even"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the president if I had a personal email."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "The NSA's top secret black budget"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "obtained by Snowden exposed the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "successes and failures of over 16 spy"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "agencies comprising the US intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "community and revealed that the NSA was"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "paying US private tech companies for"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "clandiststein access to their"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "communications networks. 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As easy as"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "it may be to point the finger at the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "ruling elite, and there's no question"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "justice must be served, we must also"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "recognize ourselves as a part of the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "problem through our own beliefs, herd"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "mentality, and lack of mindfulness, and"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "unwillingness to strive for wisdom. If"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "we wish to truly be a part of the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "solution, I know you've heard this"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "before, but it's more serious than ever."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Be the change you wish to see in the"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "As Bruce Lipton has demonstrated with"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "his groundbreaking work in epigenetics,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "our very beliefs affect our biological"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "systems in deep and very impactful ways."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "If we can believe we can live a happy"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "life, then we can. 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Now, at some level, we must"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "be able to laugh at ourselves because"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "humans are notorious for often doing"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "very dumb things. And in today's day and"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "age, these things are often captured on"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "camera and shared for all to see, which"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "fills up Reddit and YouTube channels to"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "no end. 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And such is the nature of"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "this chapter within the conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "theory of everything."}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Upon exploring the spiritual path, we"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "can see that we remain complacent due to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "the disconnection of our souls. For when"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "we live just from the ego, we live as"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "self-centered, materialistic,"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "pleasure-seeking beings who do not"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "actively perceive or care for the search"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "for anything greater. The soul is the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "voice of truth, love, and compassion"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "within you, the most authentic and"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "highest version of you. It is the eye of"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "awareness within your heart that"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "connects you to everything that sees and"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "knows that all things are connected."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "However, in mass there are so many who"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "are disconnected from the soul and don't"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "even believe that it exists. Thus, ideas"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "like this are often ridiculed and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "demeaned by the masses, which further"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "perpetuates the soulless body of human"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "consciousness running rampant, a body of"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "ego."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Obviously, this makes it very easy for"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "the elite to control the collective mind"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "using all of the ways that we've"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "explored because we are not operating"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "from a state of higher collective"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "Rather, we are operating as if we are"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "chickens with our heads cut off."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Yet, if even but a glimpse of the soul"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "can be seen, which often happens through"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "lucid dreams, near-death experiences,"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "psychedelic experiences, or other"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "personal transformational revelations,"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "an individual is usually changed"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "forever. It is very difficult to go back"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "to the way things were when you suddenly"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "see and experience within that you are a"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "part of something so much greater than"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "yourself and that your own thoughts,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "feelings, and actions have a direct"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "impact on the world around you. How"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "could you go back to being ignorant of"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "this once you know a higher truth? We"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "must be mindful that solving this"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "problem must be taken from both ends of"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the spectrum. Those who are perpetuating"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the crimes against humanity, the mass"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "manipulation, the pedophiles, the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "rapists, the murderers, all of them must"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "be brought to justice. However, if we"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "think this will solve all of our"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "problems, we are sorely mistaken. 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But what if this sense"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "of pride and security were an illusion,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "a front for the real operation, a"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "modern-day human edition of the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "holographic demiurge?"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "What if behind the scenes there exists a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "power that is influencing not just the"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "direct actions of the US government and"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "both sides of their political spectrum"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "but also other countries? 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So it is natural to wonder if"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "power grows in secret then how do we"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "know that the most powerful forces"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "directing this play are not also the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "most invisible."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "What if some of the greatest conflicts"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and global events were architected from"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "a secret world government."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Not since the JFK assassination has"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "there been a national tragedy. so"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "heavily imprinted in American minds or"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "one that has given rise to quite as many"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "alternative explanations outside of the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "mainstream narrative. Despite taking"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "place almost 20 years ago, over 42% of"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Americans today believe that the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "government and the 9/11 commission"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "concealed or refused to investigate"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "critical evidence that contradicts their"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "official explanation of the attacks. All"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "of this questioning created a massive"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "alternative narrative of events that"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "covers everything from the days leading"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "up to the attacks, their execution, and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the aftermath."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "The most infamous aspect of the theories"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "is that the collapse of the towers,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "specifically Tower 7, were the result of"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "controlled and deliberate demolitions"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "rather than the impact of the planes."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "This is seen almost to be self-evident"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "considering building 7 fell at almost"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the exact same time as the other two"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "towers, but miraculously without a plane"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "even coming close to it. Surveys even"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "suggest that most people who see a video"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "of building 7 very quickly begin to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "question and doubt the official"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "mainstream narrative."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Jumping back in time a few days before"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "the event, it is purported that the US"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "government knew about the coming attack"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "days or even weeks in advance and"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "deliberately failed to prevent it or"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "even purposefully allowed it to happen."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "This is purported even by Michael"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Meecher, a former British environment"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "minister and member of Tony Blair's"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "government in the UK."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Evidence to this is found in the stock"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "value alterations for the airlines that"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "were hijacked leading up to the event"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "when a huge amount of put options were"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "placed for American Airlines and United"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Airlines, a financial tool that gives"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "owners the option money if the price of"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the stock falls. Some economic and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "business journals have gone on record"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "saying that this is evidence of unusual"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "option market activity in the days"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "leading up to September 11th. that is"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "consistent with investors trading on"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "advanced knowledge of the attacks. To"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "put it in perspective, between September"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "6th and 7th, the Chicago Board Exchange"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "recorded nearly 4,744"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "put option contracts bought in United"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Airlines. Then on September 10th,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "another 4,516"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "stocks were bought in American Airlines."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Naturally, the 9/11 Commission says that"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the weird behavior was just"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "coincidental."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "But nevertheless, these put options made"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "someone a lot of money. A separate line"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "of suspicion stems from the actions"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "taken by NORAD, the North American"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Aerospace Defense Command, and the FAA,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the Federal Aviation Administration, on"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "that day. There's much speculation about"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "whether NORAD issued a standown order to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "its fighter jets on 9/11 along with"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "delays in the FAA to notify NORAD of the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "potential threat. According to FAA"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "records, the notification to NORAD about"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "the hijacking of each plane came just"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "minutes before they would crash. Despite"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the FAA noticing unusual behavior like a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "failure to stay on course and a shutdown"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "transponder on American Airlines Flight"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "11 just 16 seconds after takeoff, NORAD"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "would not be called to action or"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "notified for over 20 minutes. In a"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "country with the most robust and"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "sophisticated defense in the world, a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "fumble this bad with such dire"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "consequences can't help but add to the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "mystery around what really took place."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Now, we get to the controlled"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "demolition. This theory states that"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "explosives installed in the building in"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "advance were the real cause of the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "collapse and wide-reaching destruction."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "First shared by Dutch demolitions expert"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Danny Joenko, who in 2006 said that the"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "aircraft impact and resulting fires"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "couldn't have weakened the building"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "sufficiently enough to initiate a"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "collapse and that they wouldn't even"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "have collapsed completely nor at the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "speeds that they did without additional"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "energy involved to weaken their lower"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "structures. He came to the conclusion"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "that this was a control demolition"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "carried out by experts. Something that"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "has since been supported by some"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "physicists, engineers, software"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "developers, and modelers along with a"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "range of other fields."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "The mainstream analysis, in contrast,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "asserts that the collapse resulted from"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "damage to support columns caused largely"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "by the weakening of columns and floors"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "by jet fuel fires. And of course, you've"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "probably seen the memes by now about jet"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "fuel and steel beams. Steven Jones, a"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "physicist at Birmingham Young"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "University, along with other"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "researchers, analyzed samples of dust"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "from the World Trade Center buildings"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "and reported that their findings"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "contained evidence of nanoothermite in"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "the dust, which are products used in"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "highle explosives."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "When he informed the National Institute"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "of Technology about his findings, they"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "argued that there was no way of knowing"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "the dust he analyzed came from those"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "buildings. When he asked them to conduct"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "their own study, they refused."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "On top of that, eyewitnesses reported"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "seeing and hearing explosions happening"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "before the collapse of the towers. and"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "the organization International Center"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "for 9/11 Studies has published videos"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "with indications about when such"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "explosions could be heard."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "The collapse of building 7 also wasn't"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "even reported in the initial report and"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "NIST, the agency charged with"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "investigating the event, took 7 years to"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "publish anything that even acknowledged"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "it. Looking into who was actually"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "working in the building at the time,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "you'll find that it housed some pretty"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "interesting residents, including a"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "secret CIA office on the 25th floor, an"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "outpost of the US Secret Service, the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Securities and Exchange Commission, and"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "New York City's Emergency Command"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Center. All of these secret offices go"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "down the day of the attack."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Last, but not least, we have the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Pentagon. Theorists have argued that the"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "damage done to the Pentagon wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "result of a plane, but potentially a"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "missile launched from inside the US"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "government, citing the dimensions of the"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "impact as evidence. After all, how does"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "a plane 125 ft wide and 155 ft long"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "create a hole that's only 60 ft across?"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "It's worth noting that plane wreckage"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "has apparently been found at the crash"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "site and eyewitnesses say that they saw"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "a plane crash. Even the conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "theorists themselves don't agree on the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "missile idea. But could the witnesses"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "have been paid actors in the no? Could"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "the pieces of plane been planted there?"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "The only footage available is from this"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "security camera and conveniently no"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "frames are available to see what hit."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Whatever happened at the Pentagon, the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "question remains, how could a plane make"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "its way not only into the airspace of"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "one of the most secure military sites in"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the world, but also crash into their"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "most predominant headquarters. Just like"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "building 7, theorists hypothesize that"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "incriminating evidence of government"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "wrongdoing was targeted in the Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "attack."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Observing the bigger picture, then why"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "why did this happen? The most common"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "theory is that 9/11 provided the United"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "States and the United Kingdom with a"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "reason to enter into a war against the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Middle East, most notably Iraq and"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Afghanistan, providing motive and"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "support from the general public. Most"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "theories about this suggests that the US"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "was after oil in the Middle East and"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "others purport a variety of banking,"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "corporate, globalization, and military"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "interests for the purpose of creating a"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "globalist government, a one world order"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "that could be run behind the scenes by"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "the Cabal."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "But the most interesting theory comes"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "from Dr. from Michael Salah who states"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "that Saddam Hussein, the leader of Iraq"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "at the time, had actually found remnants"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "of a Stargate built by the Anunnaki"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "while excavating one of the ziggurats,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "ancient Mesopotamian temples in Iraq. As"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "a result, he had threatened to use it to"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "interact with the Anunnaki to bring"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "about mass disclosure and domination."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Thus, the orchestration of the 9/11"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "attacks was a deliberate ruse to justify"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "the acquisition of the Stargate and"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "other ancient artifacts and technologies"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "into Western hands. And to learn more"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "about this mysterious species, please"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "watch our Anunnaki movie on YouTube."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "If any of this is true, then that would"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "imply that at the time a secret"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "government with their hands in many"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "countries may not have had as much"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "influence as they wanted with certain"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "countries in the Middle East. Or if the"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "secret government had complete control,"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "then for what reason could they have"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "purposefully staged this event? When we"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "pull back the curtain on the workings"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "behind the scenes, things become strange"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "and even frightening."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "The most infamous mind control"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "experiment in history is MK Ultra,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "otherwise known as Project Bluebird. The"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "most terrifying thing about it is that"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "it isn't even a theory. MK Ultra was a"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "regal documented CIA program for which"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "the CIA has faced repercussions legally."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "It's well established that some of the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "experiments in the Ultra project were"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "illegal. The US government willingly"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "experimented on its citizens without"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "their knowledge or consent. Yet, no one"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "seems to bat an eyelash, perhaps because"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "no one really knows the true extent of"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "what actually went on behind closed"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "doors."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "The official aim was that experiments on"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "humans were intended to develop drugs"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "and procedures to be used in"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "interrogations in order to weaken"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "individuals and force confessions"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "through mind control."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "The program was officially authorized in"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "1953, but supposedly got reduced funding"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "continually until its disbandment in"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "1937."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "There is also the elusive Montalk"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "experiments located at Camp Hero Montalk"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "which began in the 1950s."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Camp Hero also swirls with conspiracies"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "and rumors of mind control, psychedelic"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "drug experiments, child abduction, and"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "even time travel. It seems incredibly"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "coincidental that the Camp Hero event"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "started in the 1950s, which also"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "experimented with mind control. It"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "doesn't seem to be a stretch to argue"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "these two projects were connected"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "somehow."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "Interestingly, the events of MK Ultra"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "came to light in 1975 after an inquest"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "by the Rockefeller Commission. Yet,"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "efforts to find the background of Ultra"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "were hindered by CIA Director Richard"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Helm's order that all MK Ultra files be"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "destroyed in 1973."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "As a result, the committee had to rely"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "on the sworn testimony of direct"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "participants and on the relatively small"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "number of documents that survived Helm's"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "order. In 1977, a Freedom of Information"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "Act request uncovered a cache of 20,000"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "documents relating to MK Ultra, which"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "led to Senate hearings later that year."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "As recently as 2018, declassified"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "documents included a letter to an"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "unidentified doctor discussing work on"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "six dogs that had been made to run,"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "turn, and stop via remote control and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "brain implants."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "During the experiments, modern estimates"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "placed the funding and budget at roughly"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "87.5 million in today's money. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "the early research was focused around"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "the psychedelic drug LSD and whether it"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "could be used to make Soviet spies"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "defect against their will and whether"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "the Soviets could do the same to the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "CIA's own operatives. When it first"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "began, they didn't test on strong-minded"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "people, though. No. The first tests of"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "the drug were done on mental patients,"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "prisoners, drug addicts, and sex workers"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "because, and I quote, they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "fight back. According to Tim Weiner"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "writing in the New York Times, they once"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "administered LSD to a mental patient in"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Kentucky for 174 days straight, as well"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "as giving it to their own employees,"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "military personnel, and scariest of all,"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "unknowing members of the general public"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "in order to study their reactions."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "Many of the drugs were often"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "administered without the subject's"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "knowledge or informed consent, which was"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "a violation of the Nuremberg code after"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "World War II. This is the only place"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "where the CIA got into legal trouble. It"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "is thought that the aim of this was to"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "find which drugs would bring about deep"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "confessions or wipe a subject's mind"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "clean to be able to program them as"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "robot agents. Later on, another part of"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "the project worked at Menllo Park's"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "Veterans Hospital where they tested the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "effects of every kind of psychedelic on"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "the residents there. Everything ranging"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "from LSD, psilocybin, measculine, and"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "cocaine, and even DMT, and AMT, another"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "lesserknown psychedelic, but similar in"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "nature to DMT."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "In these experiments, adverse reactions"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "were a pretty common occurrence. One"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "operative who received LSD in his"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "morning coffee became psychotic and ran"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "across Washington, seeing a monster in"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "every car passing him. The experiments"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "continued even after Frank Olsen, an"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "army chemist who had never taken LSD"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "before, was secretly dosed by his CIA"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "supervisor and 9 days later plunged to"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "his death from the window of a 13thstory"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "New York City hotel room after falling"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "into a post-trip depression and"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "paranoia."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "There were some people who did consent"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "and they were subject to even more"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "extreme experiments such as being dosed"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "with LSD for 77 consecutive days."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "The culmination of all of this research,"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "however, was that by 1962, the CIA had"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "developed a series of super"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "hallucinogens, most notably the BZ"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "compound, which was thought to hold"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "greater promise as a mind control"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "weapon."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "It was at this point that many academics"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "and private researchers became"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "disillusioned with the project. Perhaps"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "the greatest asset we can learn from"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "this revelation coming to light is not"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "only the extreme methods employed by"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "those within the deep state, but also"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "the acknowledgment that just as much as"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "psychedelics can be used for healing and"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "therapy, there is ample evidence now"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "that they can be used to invoke darkness"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "and lasting psychotic states. and it"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "entirely depends on how they're used,"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "messing with the neurochemistry instead"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "of harmonizing it with a higher"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "While all of this was happening, they"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "also experimented with hypnosis with"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "goals of creating hypnotically induced"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "anxieties as well as increasing an"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "individual's ability to learn complex"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "material and increasing memory and"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "cognitive ability. To do this, the CIA"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "actually ended up setting up what were"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "essentially concentration camps for"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "study. And once again, we see the value"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "and terrors that come with hypnosis. All"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "the while, in the mainstream world, it"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "is laughed at as nothing more than"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "superstition. As Steven Kinszer pointed"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "out, in areas under American control in"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "the early 1950s in Europe, and East"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "Asia, mostly Japan, Germany, and the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "Philippines, the CIA created secret"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "detention centers so that the US could"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "avoid criminal prosecution and work in"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "secret. The CIA captured people"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "suspected of being enemy agents and"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "other people it deemed expendable to"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "undertake various types of torture and"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "human experimentation."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "The prisoners were interrogated while"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "being administered psychoactive drugs,"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "electroshocked, and subjected to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "extremes of temperature, sensory"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "isolation, and a whole host of other"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "terrible things in order to develop a"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "better understanding of how to destroy"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "and to control human minds."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "These experiments likely developed"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "tremendous understanding of how the"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "brain responds to a variety of extremes"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "and how it interacts with and filters"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "But at what cost and for what ultimate"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "purpose could these experiments led to"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "an influential decision in manipulating"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "the mainstream narrative perhaps behind"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "9/11 or even the COVID pandemic?"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "After 1973, when all of this began to"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "come out into the public, it prompted a"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "number of subjects or their surviving"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "children to file lawsuits against the"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "federal government for conducting"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "experiments without consent. Although"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "the government aggressively and"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "sometimes successfully sought to avoid"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "legal liability, several people did"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "receive compensation through court"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "orders. And this whole battle is still"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "going on today. In fact, while the CIA"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "insists that MK Ultraype experiments"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "have been abandoned, Canadian"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "investigative journalist Elizabeth"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "Nixon, whose mother was a subject,"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "claims that they continue today under a"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "different name."}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Returning to the beginning, MK Ultra"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "initially came to the public awareness"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "due to an inquest from the Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "Commission. Generally today, when you"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "look into the question of the"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Illuminati, who are often presumed to be"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "the secret government, the Rockefeller"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "family often appears at the top of the"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "list in association or connection."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "However, it seems that in this case, the"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "Rockefellers brought something nefarious"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "to light. The question is why? Why would"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "they rat out their own operation if they"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "truly were behind it? Was this all"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "orchestrated as part of a singular"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "greater intention? Or are the"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "Rockefellers playing a different game"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "than has been assumed for so long?"}]

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And feed the data"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "into a network of computers so complex"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "that computer scientists aren't even"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "sure how it works at all anymore."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "This complex neural network of"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "computers, data, and programs are then"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "linked to nearly all of us through the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "apps and web services that we use on a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "daily basis, spitting out products,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "content, and suggestions,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "catered to individual desires better"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "than anything that has ever been done"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "before. keeping the masses glued and"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "engaged on their phones, tablets, and"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "desktops like nobody's business. And"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "have been specifically designed to"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "manipulate our thoughts and feelings in"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "order to keep us using the apps longer,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "get our friends and family engaging, and"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "spend more money in the process. This is"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "our current reality. And what's more"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "interesting, the business model is"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "wildly successful and most people don't"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "even know that they're a part of it."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Where does humanity go from here? A"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "cyberpunk dystopia."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "As technology continues to advance,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "there is concern growing in the minds of"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "those who have freed themselves from the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Matrix long enough to realize that there"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "is an issue. As technology continues to"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "evolve and humans become more integrated"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "with it, the line seems to blur between"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "what is real and what is not. Then"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "again, if all of reality is an illusion"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "anyways, does it even matter?"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Let us begin our exploration with the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "software that currently exists today"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "that begins to blur the lines between"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "reality and illusion."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Deep fakes. Technology is just now"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "reaching a point where we can produce"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "videos of just about anyone saying or"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "doing things that they otherwise"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "wouldn't say."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> President Trump is a total and complete"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Granted, this technology is still in its"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "infancy. And while that clip itself can"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "easily be identified as a fake, every"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "day as it improves, it becomes more and"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "more difficult to tell the difference"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "between deep fake and reality. Even"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "today, it's being used in nefarious"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "ways, including making porn videos of"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "celebrities by taking their faces and"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "applying them to other bodies. 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And what happens when it gets so"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "good that nobody can tell the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "difference? the real and fake versions"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "arguing over which one is authentic."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "But of course, this is only the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "beginning of our technological"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "conspiracies and how we slowly lose"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "touch with our world as we enter into"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "new ones."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "One of the biggest growing concerns in"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the world is the belief that the powers"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that be are attempting to control"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "everyone through advanced microchip"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "technology. 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They'd"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "be able to monitor everything inside,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "everything about you, down to what you"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "think about."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "This technology combined with an AI that"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "can associate complex combinations of"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "states within your physiology,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "predicting future behaviors and"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "affecting our perception and decision-m"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "processes, a very scary and possible"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "reality becomes available to us. One"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "where we integrate with technology."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "As we know, this is already happening on"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "some level right now with the algorithms"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "actively recording everything you search"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "and serving it back to you on a silver"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "platter. This, however, would be a far"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "more invasive integration. And what's"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "even crazier to consider is that people"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "would do it voluntarily."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "You see, very few people are going to"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "just allow this technology to be"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "embedded in their bodies just so that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "the government can monitor them. Rather,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "just like with cell phones today, the"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "microchip will be a no-brainer for"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "people who are willing to receive the"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "benefits of this tech. 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But in the grand scheme of"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "things, and with a great deal of"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "innovation, where this technology seems"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "to go is into the realm of having a sort"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "of telepathic link to the internet. When"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "you have a question, instead of pulling"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "out your phone and searching for the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "answers on the internet, you can access"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "all of the information instantaneously"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "about anything that you want. For others"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "with the implant, you may find yourself"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "connecting to others in a pseudo"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "teleelpathic kind of way where your"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "thoughts and feelings could be"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "personally shared with others in real"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "time, communicating beyond words, but"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "with a language of images, pictures, and"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "even sharing experiences."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "This would allow you to connect with"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "others both mentally and empathically as"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "well, which could bring people closer"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "together. This would fundamentally"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "change the education system, too. For"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "who needs school when you have instant"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "access to every bit of information known"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "to mankind right there in your mind?"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "This chip could theoretically support"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "you in downloading information"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "thousands, if not millions of times"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "faster than reading or watching"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "documentaries. Much like Neo in the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Matrix, downloading a lifetime worth of"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "fighting techniques and becoming a kung"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "fu master in a single day. This level of"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "integration could be possible with this"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "kind of technology. Imagine if you"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "wanted to become an amazing artist or"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "learn everything there is to learn about"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "programming, quantum mechanics, or even"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "becoming a professional accountant or"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "lawyer. So, why not just spend an"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "afternoon or evening downloading and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "installing courses directly into your"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "mind? You could theoretically condense 6"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "years of intense university studies into"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "a weekend and have the exact same level"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "of knowledge or even greater knowledge"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "compared to someone who took the time to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "learn it the old-fashioned way."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "And as more and more people integrate"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "with technology, it may even lead to a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "collective hive mind where everyone's"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "own brains become processors for a"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "collective consciousness shared amongst"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "all integrated people. On the one hand,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "it's very much like the Borg from Star"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Trek, but on the other hand, it seems to"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "relate with many ancient writings such"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "as the hermetic texts as well as ideas"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "that people like Steven Greer have put"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "forward. The idea that there is only one"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "consciousness and while all of our"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "bodies appear separate and perceive"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "disconnection from one another,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "ultimately we're all sharing the same"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "consciousness within the source field."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "The advent of this kind of technology"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "would have earthshattering implications"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "for all of us and life would never be"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the same. A sense of personal boundaries"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "and privacy disappears as we become more"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "open and interconnected in mind and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "body. But again, as wonderful as some of"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "these ideas sound, the conspiracy"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "remains. Who programmed the AI that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "links into our minds? 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Because where"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "things could go are directly into the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "realms of something straight out of a"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "sci-fi movie. Let us start with some"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "rather inconspicuous innovations that"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "could change the landscape of the world"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "in a massive way. Perhaps one day, let's"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "say scientists and engineers complete a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "prototype for an artificial eye for"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "blind people. One simple surgery and"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "it's a miracle. People who have been"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "blind their whole lives suddenly have"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the gift of sight. But it won't stop"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "there, though. Suddenly, these people"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "can see wavelengths of light that normal"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "eyes can't. Have an integrated zoom"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "feature, giving them binocular eyes, and"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "even have an augmented reality display"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "directly in their inner vision. These"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "people could literally play Pok\u00e9mon Go"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "anywhere without a phone, literally"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "seeing Pok\u00e9mon all over the place. When"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "cyborgs can not only see but see better"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "than someone with normal eyes, even"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "people with fine eyesight will want this"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "upgrade and a new generation of upgraded"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "humans begins."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Even on a less invasive level, we have"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "the ideas like the digital contact lens"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "depicted in the new Brave New World"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "series, which is a contact that hooks"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "into receptors in the back of your eye,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "giving you a direct mental and visual"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "link to everyone else in society."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "This could happen with prosthetics, too."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "And in a way, it already is, although"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the tech is still in its infancy. If"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "someone loses or breaks their legs or"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "arms in a terrible accident, they can"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "one day get bionic limbs that are more"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "powerful and capable than any normal"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "body part, giving them super strength or"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "super speed, at least up to the limits"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "of what the rest of the biological body"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "can handle. When this tech is available,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "of course, some people will opt to have"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "their arms or legs replaced by bionic"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "body parts. This may even be especially"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "popular in top secret super soldier"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "experiments done by militaries of the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "world, if they're not already doing it."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Ideas like this have also been made"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "popular in pop culture, such as with the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "cyborg in Treasure Planet or Ed Elrich"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "from Full Metal Alchemist."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "But speaking now to integrated"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "experiences, let us shift our focus for"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "a moment to consider VR. It's not"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "impossible to think that something like"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "the Oasis from Ready Player 1 could be"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "right around our doorstep, a massive"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "multiplayer online universe that puts"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "you into the experience through VR"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "technology. This could and likely would"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "lead to a form of mass exodus from real"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "life as people begin shifting their"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "lives into this digital realm. Why go to"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "work in an office when you can work from"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "any conceivable place in the universe?"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "And then instead of spending time with"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "friends at the bar after work, why not"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "go hunting dragons together? Instead of"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "playing racing games on your iPad, why"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "not go and actually experience a race"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "yourself? Completely immersive, yet safe"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "from the comfort of your home. With all"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "of the suffering in the world and the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "fantastic possibilities offered by VR,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "some people might seek out a life spent"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "mostly or even totally in game. And"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "while everyone is inside of the game,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "what would happen to the real world? If"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "we are not careful, we may end up with a"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "reality like Ready Player 1 with massive"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "slums taking over as people spend less"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "and less time in the physical dimension."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Why bother fixing the real world when"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "the in-game world is always perfect,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "beautiful, or at least exactly as it's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "designed to be? But even this is not the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "end. And the lines around what is real"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "begins to blur until you can't even see"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "the line anymore. One day, it may even"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "become possible to transport your entire"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "consciousness into a game. This concept"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "was demonstrated powerfully by a show"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "called Sword Art Online in which a VR"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "headset allowed individuals to leave"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "their body behind as they enter into an"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "entirely virtual reality. Your body is"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "unconscious. You're not even aware of"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "it. And you experience reality as if you"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "are physically running around in Azeroth"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "or Minecraft, Hyrule, or literally"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "anywhere that you want as anyone that"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "you want. Recently, this idea was also"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "portrayed in an episode of Black Mirror"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "with a next level VR headset that is"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "just a little disc that you put on the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "side of your head and it transports your"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "consciousness into a video game."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "As you enter into a world where you can"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "literally do anything like fly, use"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "magic, go on epic quests, or even just"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "spend an entire summer fishing by a"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "beautiful lake in paradise. The question"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "becomes, why spend any time in the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "physical world at all? Do you want to"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "have a super powerful body or a super"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "sexy one? How do you want your face to"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "look? You can customize it to your"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "liking freely. Since this technology"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "would connect directly to your brain, it"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "could even stimulate sensations like"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "getting drunk, taking psychedelics, or"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "rewiring your thinking patterns to be"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "however you want. If the only concern of"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "having to unplug is eating and going to"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "the bathroom, then undoubtedly someone"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "will create a technology that makes it"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "so that that isn't even an issue and you"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "will truly never have to leave."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "One might also wonder exactly what would"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "happen to your physical body if you were"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "to rewire your consciousness and brain"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "inside of the game world. Would it"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "change your body appearance at all? A"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "mass exodus from the physical world"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "would create tremendous changes within"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "humanity as part of the human race"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "strives to live in this new world and"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "another part rebelss against it or"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "simply cannot afford to play the game."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Further, once brain integration happens"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "and mass data is collected on people's"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "reactions to certain stimuli or events,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "the artificial intelligence could"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "skillfully filter and alter your"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "perception in reality or completely"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "guide your experience in VR so that you"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "rarely if ever have a desire to stop"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "using it."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "All this technology, especially putting"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "your consciousness into a game, will at"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "some point give the game creators an"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "awareness of everything about you, your"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "thoughts, your feelings, your choices,"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "and it would allow anyone with the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "knowhow to monitor you on a very"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "intimate level. And yet, most people"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "will probably skip past the 50 to 100"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "pages of terms of service and press"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "accept anyways because the ability to"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "shoot fireballs and fly is waiting for"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "them on the other side of the signup"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "page."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "and seeing the pinnacle of all of this"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "together. As humanity grows and becomes"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "more advanced and can even create an"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "entirely robot body, if we can transfer"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "our consciousness, our thoughts and"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "memories into a machine, then we could"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "exist with a robot body just like Ultron"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "himself. When that day comes, we will be"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "forced to ask what constitutes a human"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "being."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Now to some people this already sounds"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "amazing and can't wait for the future."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "However, the conspiratorial aspect of"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "this comes in the form of a question as"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "we step into the next 100 years of"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "change and beyond. Who is really running"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "the show? The foundation of the internet"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "as we know it is rooted in algorithms"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "beyond anyone's understanding. Designed"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "almost entirely for the purpose of"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "profit and marketing. Who controls these"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "algorithms? Who dictates what we see?"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Currently, our attention is essentially"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "open to the highest bidder. But is it"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "possible that the AI itself could take"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "us all over? And if we are integrated"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "into this collective mind, is it"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "possible for someone to simply decide"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "what we think and feel? Even when the"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "internet was in its infant stages,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "people were fantasizing about free and"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "open access to information."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "revolutionizing the world. And while"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "that tech did become available, social"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "media has also come to the forefront and"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "allowed some of our worst primal"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "instincts like tribalism and"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "manipulation to resurface with greater"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "strength than ever before."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "To go deeper into this, we must"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "acknowledge that we're all responsible"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "for our own behavior. But as far as"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "social media is concerned, how we use"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "this technology is also beholden to"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "those who created it. In a recent"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "Netflix documentary called The Social"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Dilemma, several ex employees of many"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "social media tech giants like Google,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "Facebook, Instagram, and more sat down"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "to reveal what they had inadvertently"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "created with this pioneering technology,"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "a monster. They explained that they have"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "created a world in which billions of"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "lives are affected by the decisions of a"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "small number of programmers. A social"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "reality in which through the way that"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the apps and software work, it"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "facilitates very small and subtle"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "changes in the way that people think and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "feel. It's so subtle that you don't even"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "know it's happening. But the result is"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "that most of us end up living inside of"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "a delusional bubble, seeing only the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "content that we're already exposed to"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "seeing. And this software can even help"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "us create negative responses to people"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "who believe anything different than us."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "The technologies they explained are"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "designed specifically to get as much"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "engagement out of you as possible, to"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "get you spending more and more time and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "then more money just by browsing these"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "social media sites. Really take a moment"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "to think about that. Every single thing"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "that comes up on your own social media"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "feed was put there by an algorithm that"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "was trying to get you to keep scrolling"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "to warm you up to spending money with an"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "ad or continue to foster engagement by"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "connecting with other people and"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "bringing them back to the app, too."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "A supposedly leaked document from a"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "marketing presentation for video games"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "showed dozens of pages, plans, and"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "methods to use AI and data collection on"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "the target gamer to determine when they"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "were more likely to buy in-game items"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "and aggressively market to them by"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "displaying offers at those times. 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And"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "combined with their ability to"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "manipulate the game to influence your"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "state once you purchase more from their"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "store, well, we weren't kidding when we"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "said technology can be used to control"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "us. Even if this presentation was fake,"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "everything mentioned in it is well"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "within the demonstrated power of AI"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "today. And if it hasn't been integrated"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "yet, you better believe that someone is"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "working towards it."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "One singular and perhaps most critical"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "questions we can ask ourselves in"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "relationship to this new technology is"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "what is truth? 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On the internet,"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "these ways of thinking are both the"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "greatest and most logical and perfect"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "way of thinking and the most destructive"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "way of thinking that is destroying our"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "beautiful planet all at the same time"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "depending on who you ask. Thus, the"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "question of truth becomes a pertinent"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "one. How do we collectively as a species"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "find truth together? This is a question"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "that we will revisit further down our"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "path."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Regarding the modern news and"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "entertainment industry, we already know"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "that the masses are manipulated daily to"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "think and feel and respond in certain"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "ways. And with the insights offered in"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "the social dilemma, it seems as though"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "our social media is also encouraging us"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "to begin behaving in hive mind"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "mentality. This technology appears to"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "cause us to stop becoming unique"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "individuals and become just a cog in a"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "massive machine. And this is where"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "there's a pending issue with the"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "integration of technology. What's to"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "stop the AI from changing the nature of"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "your being based on who's advertising to"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "you in any given day on a deeper level"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "than ever before? In the world today, as"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "people have negative responses to news"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "or events, this fuels more negativity"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "around the issue. Not to mention, the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "news actively fuels more negative press"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "and stories on a daily basis. So that"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "even if there's a lot of good in the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "world, the negative stories always seem"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "to get more attention."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "Conspiratorally speaking, there is more"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "and more evidence that shows that"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "consciousness actively steers reality."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "That our focus and what we focus on"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "dictates what kind of life we"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "experience. People with hope for the"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "world are driven to create things. But"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "people who focus on all the negative"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "stuff in their life generally have more"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "anxiety around things that happen and"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "become stuck in their own fear. The"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Corona virus pandemic was a great"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "example of this as we saw mass divisions"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "from people wearing face masks and"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "generally being scared of potentially"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "spreading this thing and those who just"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "relaxed into the quarantine and said all"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "right we're here and I'm going to use"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "this as an opportunity to create some"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "meaningful change at least in my own"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "life and they did."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "If Facebook and Google are steering the"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "mainstream narrative, then they"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "ultimately have a massive influence in"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "the direction that society goes. They"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "could design their systems to create"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "peace and prosperity in the world. But"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "their core focus is profit, which is"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "good for business. So why would they"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "change their business model?"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "This couldn't have been made more"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "evident by a personal quote from Mark"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook, who"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "actually said, \"What's good for the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "world isn't necessarily what's good for"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "Facebook.\" Yes, he really said that. And"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "he owns one of the largest companies in"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "the world, influencing the lives of"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "billions. Even if humanity was connected"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "digitally with all of this access to"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "information such as consciousness"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "integration and all that, unless you"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "were actively looking to download and"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "install books and wisdom into your mind,"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "it's all too likely that the focus of"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "our collective mind could be hijacked by"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "advertisements, entertainment, or other"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "things. The exact same as how we are"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "constantly distracted by social media"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "today. And this could even be used to"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "steer our species in the direction of"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "whoever or whatever was pulling the"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "strings."}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "At this point, it almost appears as"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "though this kind of technological"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "integration is inevitable. And if you're"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "conflicted about it, you're not alone."}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "On the one hand, the ability to read"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "every book you ever wanted to in days or"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "learn more about yourself and the"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "universe in such a short time or master"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "kung fu is very appealing. 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The leaked"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "documents revealed that one thing"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Maduro's forces lacked was radar"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "detection in lower altitude range, which"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "is a gap that American forces would plan"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "to exploit. From this sweep, US aircraft"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "knew that they were flying directly into"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the Russian Chinese and Iranian provided"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "defense systems. And on paper, Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "was in command of significant"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "surfaceto-air defense capabilities. But"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the US military planners knew that they"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "didn't have to physically destroy"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "everything. They only needed to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "neutralize their adversaries ability to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "coordinate. In the face of this, on"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "January 3rd at 2 a.m., the US Air Force"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "and Navy launched F-35, F-18 Growlers,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "and F-22 Raptors from bases in Puerto"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Rico, the Dominican Republic, and"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "carrier decks in the Caribbean. The air"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "tasking order provided each of the 150"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "pilots with their routes, targets, and"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "strike package details. The first thing"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "the Growlers did was use its suite of"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "sensors and jamming systems to detect"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "these hostile radar emissions and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "suppress them with targeted electronic"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "attacks. Then it launched its AGM88"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "missile that hunts enemy air defense"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "system emissions. Here we see video"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "evidence of security forces firing"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "missiles at the American aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "giving away their position for"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "destruction. Then they launched their"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "fire and forget AGM 154, which is a"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "standoff munition that lets them shoot"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "from the safe distance of over 100 km"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "away. The precision attacks destroyed"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "two of the Russian provided book command"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "centers. And when you knock out one of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "those control nodes, it immediately"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "reduces the effectiveness of any of the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "launchers attached to it. Pieces of the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "missiles were later recovered from the"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "ground and posted online. These were"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "physically targeted and destroyed"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "because their mid-range capabilities"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "posed the greatest threat to"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "helicopters. Afteraction reports showed"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "that many of these launchers were"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "destroyed while still in storage. They"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "never even made it out of their"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "warehouse. From here, the F-35 sensors"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "created what's called a God's eye view"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "of the battle map. This is a shared"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "picture with the entire strike team. And"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "it's important because at this point"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "they're up against Russia's S300, the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "most expensive and sophisticated missile"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "defense system they had. How effective"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "is it? According to Rand analysis on the"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Russian S400, their performance in"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Ukraine reveals that Western missiles"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "are intercepted about 90% of engagements"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "due to recent upgrades. Ukraine's own"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "S300 systems have proved effective at"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "intercepting enemy aircraft. So why did"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "they fail so catastrophically here? for"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "a few reasons. In Venezuela, the Russian"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "provided S300 launchers were never even"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "activated or linked to the Chinese or"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Russian radar network because the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "American Growler aircraft are outfitted"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "with the ANALQ99"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "attack pods under their wing. This"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "blasts high power noise at enemy radars."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "It's like a brute force static on a"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "radio that drowns out everything else"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "and overpowers radar with static. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "like yelling into a megaphone so no one"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "else can hear what anyone's saying. This"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "jamming bricked the S300 and then its"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "operators refused to even turn them on"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "for fear of making themselves a target"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "for deletion. Counterintuitively, US"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "forces were then ordered to not"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "physically destroy those S300 systems,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "likely for the strategic logic of"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "leaving room for future escalation. If"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "you blow something up, you can't"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "threaten to blow it up again later as a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "threat. On top of that, the unique"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "geography of the region further"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "undermines these specific systems."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Russian air defense systems are"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "notoriously optimized for flat, wide"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "open terrain that's found specifically"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "in Europe. But Venezuela has a"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "mountainous coast with peaks and valleys"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "that are a nightmare for these systems."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "So by plotting the right vectors,"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "low-flying American aircraft were able"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "to exploit radar blind spots. Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "and Cuban agents were deployed and"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "helped to maintain these air defense"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "systems. Russia's own state-run media,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "TAS, reported that Ivan Pavlov, a"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Russian working in Karacus, said that"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "the warning systems did not work. Ivan"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "said, quote, \"The sirens weren't"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "howling. The air defense systems seem to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "be working in places, but that's not for"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "sure. There's still silence on the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "television.\" End quote. Part of the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "reason that these systems never engaged"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "American forces is because of the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "political consequence of firing in a"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "top-down central authority dictatorship."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "When power is consolidated in the hands"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "of just a few in a military, your"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "average soldiers tend to wait around"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "longer, waiting to get orders on what to"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "do next instead of taking the initiative"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "for themselves for fear of future"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "retaliation. And there were 200s of the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Soviet style 40mm anti-aircraft flack"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "cannons, 44 of the Petura 2M systems,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "and 5,000 Igla man portable shoulder"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "fired missiles. So why did they all"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "fail? The absence of seeing any of that"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "anti-aircraft flack is very telling, I"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "think, because even when Iran's nuclear"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "facility was hit, we saw them fire flack"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "into the air to prove resistance even"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "though they couldn't reach any of the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "aircraft. So, this suggests that there"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "wasn't a will to fight. And the CIA has"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "for decades created reports specifically"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "assessing the Venezuelan's militaries"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "will fight. This is something that is"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "intangible. You can't quantify it. can't"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "count how many motivated troops there"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "are, but many of the forces appear not"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "to have been willing to fight for"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Maduro. This has some speculating that"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "parts of the Venezuelan military"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "received orders to stand down ahead of"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "time, while other parts did not. Part of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the reason resistance gives up in the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "first place is because of overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "firepower. And this came from appearing"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "like you're everywhere at once. And to"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that point, US forces launched their"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "first ever in history widescale combat"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "use of kamicazi one-way drones. The war"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "zone reported an analysis of multiple"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "combat footage clips from the ground in"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Venezuela where you could hear this"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "distinct whining whizzing sound that"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "these guided munitions make. Sounds"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "different from incoming mortars or"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "missiles. It sounds more like a"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "lawnmower of death overhead. These"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "kamicazi drones themselves are based on"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Iranian technology that itself is based"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "on US drone technology. They only cost"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "about $40,000 a pop, much cheaper than"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "the milliondoll missiles. The reason"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "these drone munitions were launched is"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "similar to holding a fake head up on a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "pole to lure a sniper. These drones made"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "it so that they could identify the new"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "locations of the road mobile launchers."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "These drones activate enemy air defense"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "systems and get them to reveal their"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "positions by either firing or turning on"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "their radar missions. These emissions"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "are then logged on by American aircraft."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "This footage uploaded of the destroyed"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Chinese radar here acts as a kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "battle damage self-report for us to see."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "This is the first ever multi-dommain air"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "campaign that was successful with these"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "kind of layered effects from drones to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "cyber attacks that shut off power. No"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "one on the internet outside Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "even knew this operation was happening."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "In a modern world where information of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "events and protests and war travels"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "instantaneously now on X, this is kind"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "of a shocking power for us to think"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "about. Combat footage from the ground"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "now reveals that Maduro security forces"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "did try resisting by firing igl shoulder"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "launched missiles at US aircraft, but"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they were unsuccessful with multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "attempts. But something not often"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "pointed out is that almost none of"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Venezuelan military has any night vision"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "goggles. When the lights were turned out"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "in the city, they couldn't see any"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "targets to fire at. These weapons do not"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "come standard with night vision. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "rarely seen fitted with NVGs or"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "thermals. But even if only a few hundred"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "of these systems were deployed"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "effectively, they would have been a"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "threat to helicopters, which shows how"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "surprised Maduro's forces were. Counter"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "measures also help the ANALQ 184 pod"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "attached to some of the aircraft act as"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "a kind of protective bubble and they"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "break missile locks. At this point in"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "the air campaign, B1 bombers then"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "launched their 24 onboard standoff JASM"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "cruise missiles from beyond engagement"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "ranges at over 350 km away. These"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "precision strikes hit air bases and"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "command centers. American fighters use"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "their new next generation jammer called"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "the ANLQ249"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "which jams multiple targets at the same"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "time and it can actually change"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "frequencies instantly. But most"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "importantly, it whispers sweet nothings"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "into the enemy radar's ears. So, its"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "deception is fooling S300 systems and"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "other radars into seeing ghost enemies"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "that aren't really there. So, when"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Maduro's troops were looking at the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "radars, they got fake aircraft locations"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "and false speeds. What happened to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Venezuela's Russianprovided interception"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "aircraft though? American F-22 air"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "superiority fighters had the specific"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "job of lurking around and waiting in the"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "air for any enemy aircraft to engage."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "But we know from Venezuelan armed forces"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "officers that had defected ahead of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "time. They had revealed that maintenance"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "on air defense and aircraft was"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "extremely poor and the readiness figures"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "were way lower than what was on paper."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Intelligence from US war planners showed"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "a 40% readiness of these systems."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Venezuela's air bases were neutralized"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "by drone and missile strikes. So the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Russian provided Sue30 fighters never"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "even got scrambled or put into the air."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "They were kept grounded. American forces"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "spared the exposed fighter jets and"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "purposefully did not target them to"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "leave room for future strikes if"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Venezuela's new president didn't comply."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Leaving some assets remaining and alive"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "allows for future escalation. But what"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "about the sonic weapon?"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> And there's a report and it was shared"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "by White House press secretary Karen"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Leard that says US forces used a sonic"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "weapon in the Maduro raid."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> There's a white eyewitness who said what"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "happened"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> because meanwhile all of these strikes"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "cleared air pathway for US Army"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "helicopters to fly low in to capture"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Maduro. New reports of an interview with"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "a security guard from the compound that"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "was hit claimed that the helicopters"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "used a new advanced sonic weapon that"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "made all of the guards there collapse in"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "pain. These sonic weapons likely do"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "actually exist and they have been used"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "and deployed against crowds in the past"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "in places like Siberia."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "The Pentagon even recently purchased one"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "for millions of dollars in a covert"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "operation. according to this report, but"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "it's unclear to me if the interview"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "there is authentic and it could have"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "just been effective use of flashbangs by"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Delta Force, which caused similar"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "symptoms to the ones that were mentioned"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "by this alleged Venezuelan guard."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "According to the alleged testimony of"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "the guard, once the sound weapon or less"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "than lethal device was employed against"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "them, Delta Force operators wiped out 32"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Cuban intelligence officers and at least"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "24 Venezuelan guards. All of which was"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "corroborated by the Cuban government"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "themselves. Why would they release"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "information about these casualties right"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "away? It could be a way to signal to"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Russia, Iran, and China that they tried"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "their best to resist but failed."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "According to New York Times, while"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "flying to the objective, the flight"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "leader who planned the mission and was"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "piloting the American Chinook was hit"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "three times in the leg with bullets,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "revealing just how close the mission"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "came to a disaster of a downed"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "helicopter over Caracus. Because"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "apparently the Chinook was barely able"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "to make it back to base. And if a"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "helicopter had crashed with Delta IV"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "soldiers being captured, the mission"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "would have gone very differently. So"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "what does this tell us about how US"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "weapons stack up to Russian ones?"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Geopolitical analyst Shaneka Perez said,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "quote, \"The speed with which these"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "systems were neutralized signals a"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "catastrophic failure of Russian export"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "air defense technology against fifth"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "generation Western air power. Every S300"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "and S400 customer, including China,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "India, and Egypt, now confronts"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "empirical evidence that Russian systems"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "cannot defeat American fifth generation"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "capabilities in operational conditions."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "He describes it as a strategic crisis"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "for Moscow. Pete Hgsith, the defense/war"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "secretary, made fun of Moscow's air"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "defense, rubbing further salt in the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "wound."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> Seems those Russian air defenses didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "quite work so well, did they? Military"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "superiority today is about more than"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "destroying systems. It's about now"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "multiple effects being layered together"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "within a specific window of time. That"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "is the new combined arms warfare"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "doctrine. And if you like this video,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "you want to learn more. I think you'll"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "enjoy this one about how the US Navy is"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "trying to rebuild their fleet with a"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "$1.6 trillion investment aimed to defeat"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "China. I'm your average infman, Chris"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Cappy. Thank you for watching ending"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "transmission."}]

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And"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "it's bigger than that because starting"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "this past year, other Western nations"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "like the UK, France, Germany, and"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Estonia have all started a global"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "crackdown against these elicit tankers"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "by intercepting and boarding them. The"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Shadow Fleet is a gigantic clandestine"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "operation that Russia has invested"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "billions of dollars into in order to"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "continue to ship their oil to customers"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "while evading Western sanctions. To put"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "it into perspective, Russia's shadow"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "fleet now accounts for nearly 20% of"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "global oil tanker capacity. So why do"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "all these countries view these old"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "shadow fleet tankers as worthy of"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "risking direct confrontation? Two weeks"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "ago, the Bella 1 sanctioned oil tanker"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "made a break for it. They tried to run"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "the US Navy blockade of Venezuela. The"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "US Coast Guard Legend Cutter class gave"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "chase and followed close behind,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "demanding that they stop over radio"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "communications, but the sanctioned ship"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "refused like a highway police chase on"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "open waters. The Russian government told"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "US officials to stop following the boat,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "but they didn't listen either. The chase"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "was on, and while the Bell 1 was fleeing"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "from US forces, they made their way from"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the Caribbean into the Atlantic Ocean."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "The crew on board quickly changed its"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "name while fleeing. They changed it to"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "the Mariana. They basically swapped out"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "their license plates while on the run."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Then they painted a crudely drawn"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Russian flag on the side of the ship."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Fair enough. I'm no artist either, but"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the rogue ship now claimed official"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "protection under Moscow. This was seen"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "as shocking because the whole point of"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the Shadow Fleet before was to provide"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Russia with a level of plausible"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "deniability. shell companies"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "purposefully hid that they were"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "connected to Russia behind confusing"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "paperwork that would make my average"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "infantryman brain explode. We're seeing"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "a reversal of this now because the"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "reason that they reflag themselves as"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Russian is because they believe that the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "US forces would back down in the face of"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "that and that the US forces would want"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "to avoid a major geopolitical incident"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "of capturing an official Russian oil"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "tanker which is something that has never"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "happened before as far as I'm aware."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "This move complicated US efforts to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "seize the ship because according to"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "retired Rear Admiral Kenny, quote, once"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "it legitimately registered, it gets the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "protection of the flag under"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "international law. End quote. That puts"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "American troops in direct defiance of"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the Russian government and military."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Then Russia sent their nuclear ALA class"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "attack submarine and additional surface"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "warships to escort the fleeing Bella1"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "tanker to safety. Its deadly torpedoes"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "were sent as a message, as an attempt to"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "scare off US forces and prevent the ship"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "from being seized. The cutter would"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "struggle to do anything against Russian"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "submarine and warships, though they"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "needed US military reinforcements. But"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "how would they get there in time in the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "middle of nowhere out in the Atlantic?"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "So, US war planners came up with the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "idea of sending a P8 Poseidon submarine"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "hunter aircraft into the skies above by"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "launching it from nearby friendly air"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "bases in the UK. This drops dozens of"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "sonar buoys into the ocean to map the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "location of Russian submarines. It can"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "then fire a Mark 54 lightweight torpedo"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "from the sky that then splashes down"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "under the ocean water and homes in on"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the submarine using active and passive"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "sonar. As further guarantees of safety,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the US deployed overkill with their"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "AC130J gunship. It has autoc cannons,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "giant howitzers, and missiles. It's a"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "serious great power standoff at this"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "point unlike anything I remember in my"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "lifetime. All of these billions of"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "dollars in military equipment are all"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "converging on the location in the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Atlantic all over some empty rusting"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "aging oil tanker. Part of the reason"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "this is worth it from the United States"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "perspective though is because the entire"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "credibility of their blockade is on the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "line here. Then the US sent a cargo"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "plane loaded with the army's 160th sore"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "nightstalkers and a team of Navy Seals"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "to the UK. The Little Bird helicopters"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "were loaded onto the deck of ships and"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "sailed out to intercept this Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "flagged illicit oil tanker. Wait a"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "second. Haven't I already done this"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "mission somewhere before? Britain helped"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "the US by providing their own air"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "surveillance and naval support vessels."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "The SEAL team landed on the artist"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "formerly known as Bella 1. It got on the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Russian ship's deck and quickly"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "commandeered it, arresting multiple"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Russian crew members. These Russian crew"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "are now reportedly going to face charges"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "in America. It's almost unheard of for"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the US military to take direct action"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "against a ship that's under Moscow's"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "registry. But what's more telling, I"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "think, is that the Russian Navy didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "retaliate and instead stood down. But"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "that's where things get weird because"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "the reason everyone is suspicious of the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Bella 1 ship is because it's empty."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "There reportedly is no oil on board,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "which has people speculating, what's in"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "the hole? Is it Russian black market"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "weapons that were meant to be smuggled"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "to Madura? Is it a metal gear? Is it"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "nothing? What's in the box? Michelle"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Wise Brockman, the maritime intelligence"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "analyst and expert on the Shadow Fleet,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "said, quote, \"There is a blurring of"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "commercial and military shipping around"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the Dark Fleet. What we're seeing now is"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "something that has really only emerged"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "in the last 6 or 7 months.\" 67. The UK"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "government said that their involvement"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "had nothing to do with Venezuela and was"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "mainly just part of a wider crackdown on"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Russia's shadow fleet. A British"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "official said, quote, \"We are stepping"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "up our response against shadow vessels"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "and we will continue to do so.\" I"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "thought it was really interesting that"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "we heard a spokesperson from the UK"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Ministry of Defense say that the defense"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "secretary had called it a priority to"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "disrupt and degrade the Russian Shadow"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Fleet. Pat McFaden, a cabinet minister"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "in the UK, said, quote, \"The"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "international community must recognize"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "it's operating in a changed world in"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "which hard power is increasingly being"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "used to achieve national aims. I swear"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "this never happens to my power, but why"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "was it worth the near direct"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "confrontation?\" The strange thing about"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "the Bella 1 tanker is that it was"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "originally sanctioned back in 2024"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "because it had ties to the Hezbollah and"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Iranian Cuds force. This wasn't directly"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "tied to Russian oil, per se. But to"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "understand why Moscow risked their"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "military credibility over one rusty"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "tanker, you have to zoom out because the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "so-called shadow fleet of sanctioned oil"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "tankers has become really a strategic"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "level asset for Russia, Iran, and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Venezuela. It's called the Ghost or Dark"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Fleet, but what it refers to is about"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "500 tankers and 500 support ships that"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "go along with it that make up this"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "armada of a thousand vessels that"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "operate under false flags in an attempt"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "to bypass Western sanctions. Russia's"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "invested in it since 2022 because it"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "maintains their key oil exports since"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "their invasion of Ukraine, and it"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "directly funds their war against Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "and their capabilities to sustain"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "operations. And to give you an idea of"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "just how important it is, it makes up"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "60% of Russia's sea time oil exports."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "And it brings in roughly hundred billion"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "dollars a year, which to put into"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "context is more than all European"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "countries have given to Ukraine's war"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "effort since the beginning of the war."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "This has provided a lifeline to"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Venezuela, Iran, and Russia. But what"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "route are they normally taking? Most"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "shadow fleet cargos start from Russian"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "oil export hubs like Primorsque with"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "crude bound west and south. They leave"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the Black Sea or the Mediterranean"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "outlets as they head through the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Bosphorus routes to reach southern and"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "global markets. Or they leave Russia's"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "eastern ports near the Pacific in the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Vladivov stock region for deliveries"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "toward Asia. They transit via the Suez"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Canal. They do ship to- ship transfers"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "offshore in the Red Sea to basically"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "launder the oil with legit oil to mask"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "its origin. Increasingly, they're using"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the Arctic route to transfer oil to"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "China. And that's why in 2025, we saw"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the first high-profile seizures of these"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "tankers around the world. French"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "boarding teams took over a Russian oil"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "tanker. An Estonian force detained a"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "crew. And then the Russian military sent"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "a fighter jet to help other sanctioned"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "vessels bust away and break free. The"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Russian military is increasingly sending"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "naval and fighter jet escorts. Finland"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "seized Russia's Eagle S ship, which is"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "allegedly part of this giant operation"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "to cut undersea cables. Taken together,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the reason all of this matters so much"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "is because it directly threatens"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Russia's ability to wage war. And so,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the obvious question is, what lengths is"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Moscow willing to go to to protect this"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "fleet? But every action has a reaction,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "and this is a growing trend now where"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "we're seeing in response the"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "militarization of Russia's shadow fleet."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Swedish Navy Chief of Operations Marco"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Pcoic said, quote, \"Russia's naval"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "presence has become more permanent and"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "present in large parts of the Baltic Sea"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "in support of this shadow fleet.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Venezuelan and Russian officials have"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "started placing armed military personnel"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "on the tankers and disguising them."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "They're now discussing arming them with"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "portable Igla air defense systems. We"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "know the strategy of cracking down is in"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the air in Washington because the Rand"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Corporation, which is a popular think"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "tank for DC policy, outlined a strategy"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "to start cracking down on this shadow"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "fleet with seizures like this. Several"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "officials in the UK and the US have"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "hinted that this is part of a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "coordinated effort to pressure Putin to"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "come to the negotiating table. Former US"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "ambassador to Brussels, Gordon Sland"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "said, quote, \"In this way, Trump puts"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "additional pressure on the economies of"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Iran, Russia, and Venezuela until he"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "achieves the desired results. However,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "at the same time, seizing the oil"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "tankers is also seen to be showing that"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the US has full control over Venezuela's"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "oil. Some argue it's more about"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "enforcing the 50 million barrels worth"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "of oil that the US says Venezuela has"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "agreed to provide. What we're seeing, I"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "think, is like a non-lethal version of"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the oil tanker wars of 1984, where Iran"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "and Iraq attacked each other's"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "commercial oil shipping in the Persian"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Gulf. Over 400 ships were damaged during"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "it. And this also shows us how"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "miscalculation can happen and"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "accidentally spill over because the sea"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "mines laid by Iran to hit Iraq's oil"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "tankers accidentally hit a US warship"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "and the US retaliated by sinking half of"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "Iran's navy in a day. It's an old naval"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "strategy known as gura deors which I"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "mispronounced but it means a war of"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "commerce and it's been executed since"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "World War I. So launching missiles at"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "these shadow fleet or capturing the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "cargo has a similar end result. Hundreds"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "of millions of dollars worth of oil and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "tankers have already been seized by the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "US and Western nations in 2025. But"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "here's how that's escalating today. And"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "the way they avoided sanctions before"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "was by hiding their origin and spoofing"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "their location or turning off their"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "transponders. But now, many of the ships"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "are instead overtly converting their"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "flags to Russia. They're increasingly"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "claiming that they're directly part of"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "the Russian government. At least 17 oil"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "tankers have switched to Russian"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "flagging in the last month. This"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "increases the chance of direct"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "confrontation, and this is their way of"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "increasing their security. Because once"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "the US proved that it was willing to"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "seize ships under an Russian flag, the"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "rest of the shadow fleet didn't wait"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "around to see what was next, there was a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "larger effort. Right after the US"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "captured Maduro, at least 16 oil tankers"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "that were sanctioned by the US made a"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "break for it. They all left at the same"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "time in a coordinated effort to evade"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "the American naval blockade. It appears"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "so far some of the tankers were able to"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "get away. The shadow fleet of tankers"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "has become the new flash point in"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "USRussia relations. And the strategic"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "thing to consider here is that once you"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "capture a handful, it pressures other in"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "the shadow fleet to not even try to"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "violate sanctions. Meanwhile, at the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "same time, another sanctioned oil"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "tanker, the M. Sophia, had 1.8 million"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "barrels of oil and it was captured in"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "the Caribbean by another American"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "helicopter assault. But this one"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "actually has even way more grave"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "consequences, I think, because the M"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Sophia is sanctioned by the US Treasury"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Department as part of the official"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "Russian shadow fleet crackdown. So, this"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "ship is directly being targeted by the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "US government because it's part of"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "Russia's fleet instead of really being"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "focused on Venezuela. So, what does all"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "this mean? What are we witnessing here"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "right now? Ryan Seabourg, a director of"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Center for Strategic and International"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Studies, explained really well what"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "we're seeing, saying, quote, \"What I"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "think is clear is that we're entering a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "new phase of great power competitions."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Some of the things that we wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "previously imagined being part of the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "operation are now on the table as"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "options. And once you zoom out from"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Russia, you realize this isn't just a"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "two-player game. Because the moment you"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "start choking off sanctioned oil at sea,"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "you're hitting other customers, too. And"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "this pulls in China directly.\" Because"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "according to Reuters, Venezuela accounts"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "for about 4% of China's oil. But on top"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "of that, Venezuela owes payments of $19"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "billion worth of outstanding loans that"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "they were paying back in oil. So the"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "loss is felt even harder for China."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "That's enough money to buy 20 Navy"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "destroyers. The reason all of this has"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "outsized impact right now is because the"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "oil tanker flare up is happening at the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "same time as the US and Russia are"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "engaged in a new round of diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "talks over the war in Ukraine. The big"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "question is if the United States and the"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "UK will really double down on seizing"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Russian oil tankers enough to hurt"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Moscow's bottom line and their war"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "effort, or if this is just a big show of"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "force, a giant dick swing. And if you"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "like this video, check out this one"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "about NATO's plan to deploy 800,000"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "troops to Europe. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "infantryman, Chris Cappy. Ending"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "America's back toppling again because"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "today we're going to learn how Delta"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Force captured Maduro from a heavily"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "fortified base inside Venezuela and"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "examine the massive 150 aircraft air"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "campaign overhead. Then we'll look at"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "who's actually in control of the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "country. Now, the first thing you need"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "to know is the American raid really"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "started 4 months ago with what's called"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "phase 1 shaping operations. It began in"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "August when a group of CIA officers were"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "secretly inserted on the ground into the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "country. They created intelligence"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "packets that tracked Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "President Maduro's movements down to the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "hour, and they operated a fleet of"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "stealth drones that sent constant live"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "updates, professionally stalking his"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "position. The clandestine operation"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "developed what's called a pattern of"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "life, which is fancy intelligence speak"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "for what we would call a daily routine."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "This way, intelligence officers narrowed"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "down Maduro's location to Fort Tiona"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "military complex, the large base that"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "lies just south of the capital of"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Caracus, where 3 million people live. On"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Saturday, January 3rd, 2026, in the dead"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "of night at 2:00 a.m. local time, the US"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "government gave the green light on"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Operation Codeame absolute resolve. The"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "US military launched a wave of targeted"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "missile strikes all across the capital"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "city. Oh boy, here I go toppling again."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Bombs were launched from 20 different"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "bases and ships. The ground assault"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "element chosen for the raid was first"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "special forces operational detachment"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Delta. And somewhat surprisingly, law"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "enforcement from FBI agents from the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "hostage rescue team were also embedded"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "alongside them to arrest Maduro. The"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "bold tactics used for the insertion"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "method shocked many military analysts."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Reportedly 11 American helicopters from"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the elite 160th Soore Night Stalkers"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "were deployed to spearhead this raid."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Soar is like the stunt drivers but for"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "helicopters and they're loaded with like"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "300 special operators in the back. The"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "team launched from the USS Euima Navy"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "amphibious assault ship that's parked"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "just a few miles off the coast of"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Venezuela. They flew low, only about 100"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "ft above the Caribbean Sea to avoid"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "enemy radar detection. Then they"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "traveled the dangerous stretch of 10 mi"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "over land from the northern shores to"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Fort Tina. They came under fire and"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "route. One helicopter was reportedly"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "damaged, but it was still able to remain"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "operational. As the air assault flew"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "across the capital, explosions erupted"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "behind them and it was uploaded live"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "onto X. The operators used the MH47G"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Chinuks and the MH60L which are special"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "variant helicopters which have unique"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "countermeasures. Then they approached"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "the base and the oceans 11 style raid"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "began. Raiding this complex is an"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "extraordinarily risky job to even"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "undertake. Fort Tiona has hardened"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "concrete gates. There are pill boxes"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "built into the mountain right there with"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "firing positions on the high ground,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "armed guard towers, and continuous 247"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "patrols. It's sort of like Venezuela's"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "version of the Pentagon. You can see"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "here it's built right into the side of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "the mountain to give defenders the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "height advantage as well as being able"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "to dig deep underground. Its perimeter"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "is pretty large. It's got about 2 mi"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "wide by 4 mi long. Intelligence reports"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "estimate that 5,000 of Maduro's most"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "elite soldiers are assigned to this"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "post. According to reports, Maduro"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "constantly moved around the country,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "changing where he slept each night and"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "throwing out burner phones to avoid"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "being tracked to this location. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "base's defenses were defeated partly"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "because starting in mid December, US"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Cyber Command laid the groundwork by"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "targeting the power infrastructure,"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "planting malware in their systems. When"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "Cyber Command flipped the switch, it"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "turned the lights off in the country,"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "completely killing electricity to the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "base and large parts of the capital"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "city. This cut off communications and"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "made coordinating any kind of response"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "extremely difficult. So, the soldiers"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "disembarked from the helicopters. The"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "commandos hit the ground and headed"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "directly to the onbase house that Maduro"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "was holed up in. US General Kaine said"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "that the raiding force came under direct"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "fire which prompted American forces to"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "respond with quote overwhelming force"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "and self-defense and quote intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "officers on the ground with the team"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "helped them navigate the compound. They"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "provided intel to this breaching team"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "ahead of time that revealed that there"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "would be thick solid steel doors"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "protecting Maduro. This information came"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "from sources close to Maduro's inner"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "circle. He had a kind of panic room that"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "was completely sealed off. So operators"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "brought explosive breaching charges and"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "buzz saws and they were prepared to"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "break through. Meanwhile, outside the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "American direct action penetrator"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "helicopter laid down closeair support"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "suppressing fire."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "This is"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "this is a special beast mode upgun"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "version of the Hilo. It went weapons"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "free with two miniguns and hydro"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "rockets. But then HILO started taking"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "fire from enemy manportable Igla air"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "defense missiles. In response, pilots"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "deployed their XM216 Dark Flares. These"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "defeat incoming missiles while staying"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "invisible to the human eye. Delta Force"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "finally breached into Maduro's onbase"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "residence and found him. According to"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "reports from CNN, who spoke to sources"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "close to the raid, operators dragged"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Maduro out of bed, zip tied and"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "blindfolded him while he was in the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "middle of sleeping. Then they led Maduro"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "and his wife outside onto the Chinuk"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "helicopters and started flying back."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Some Venezuelan military officer who"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "gave away their location and was a"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "source to the CIA just got $50 million"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "in reward money. But this was only half"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "the mission because the operator still"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "had to safely extract. It was vital to"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the mission mandate that they capture"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "him alive. If Maduro was somehow killed"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "in route or during expiltration, it"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "would look like America had ordered an"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "assassination mission, which would cause"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "all kinds of additional legal trouble."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "This was one of the most geopolitically"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "sensitive missions that I can think of"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "in recent history. They had kicked the"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "hornets's nest. The whole freaking"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "country was coming down on them. Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the question on every Delta Force"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "operator's mind on the way back was,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "could they trust US air power to cover"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "their exfiltration? On their way out of"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Venezuela, the US airpower continued to"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "strike strategic military installations"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "across the country to create a diversion"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "for them to safely escape. F-22 Raptors,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "F-35 stealth fighters, F-18s, radar"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "aircraft, and B1 Lancer bombers"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "participated in the attacks. They hit"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "bases all over in the states of Laguar,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Miranda, and Ara. This was to create"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "multiple dilemmas. This was achieved"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "thanks to an air campaign that had been"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "happening simultaneously overhead that"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "achieved air supremacy. The operation"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "reportedly involved 150 American fighter"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "aircraft that had the goal of complete"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and total control of the skies. Fighter"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "aircraft launched long range precision"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "missiles. Large explosions were heard"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "across the capital. Local language news"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "reporting stated that these explosions"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "targeted air defense radar antennas."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "This was a massive seed operation."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Suppression of enemy air defenses."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "According to Osinet defender onx, good"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "friend of the show, the air campaign"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "destroyed buck long range air defense"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "systems and knocked out all the armored"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "vehicles at the bases. And since then,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "new satellite imagery has come out and"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "shown the scale of the destruction at"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "the base. Large parts of the base were"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "entirely flattened. American jammers"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "scrambled radar systems and"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "anti-radiation missiles targeted the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "enemy's S300 air defense launchers. Not"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Putin furiously taking notes on how to"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "do a special 3-day military operation"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "with 69 hours to spare. Reason they were"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "able to achieve this is because they"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "struck major air bases including the one"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "at L Carlo and the Eagle Roa airport"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "where Maduro's air force of MIG fighter"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "jets could have launched from to"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "intercept them. We see the aftermath of"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "the destroyed armored vehicles on base"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "here. Pulling together a response was"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "difficult for those forces because Fort"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Tuna, the military installation, housed"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "some of the most highlevel military"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "generals and once it was hit, it sent"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "them all into chaos. In dictatorships,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "sometimes they keep all of their"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "decision-making military officials"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "central in one single consolidated"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "location, which is useful for"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "maintaining control, but on the other"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "hand, it has the downside of a single"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "point of failure or weakness. Explosions"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "hit the port Lagua, which is one of"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Venezuela's most strategically important"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "ports that controls regime linked money."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "These shaping operations were designed"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "to cause confusions and disorientation"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "in Maduro's forces. Because what stunned"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "military observers about this assault"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "was that helicopters were the defining"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "feature. Combat footage showed Marine"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Corps Viper and what appeared to be Army"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Apaches striking ground targets with"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "rockets."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "And typically these rotor aircraft are"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "vulnerable and exposed without ground"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "support alongside it. There are"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "relatively slowm moving and often easy"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "targets these hilos or even handheld"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "enemy air defense weapons. The fact that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "they were used in this raid indicates"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "how confident US war planners were that"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "they would have total air supremacy at"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "this point. But the question is why"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "weren't any American helicopters shot"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "down by some of the reportedly 5,000"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "manp Iglow launchers? How was the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "resistance so ineffective? There are"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "several different theories and answers"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "and it actually takes us down a really"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "weird, strange, almost conspiratorial"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "rabbit hole. So, so strap in. The"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "overwhelming combat firepower the US had"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "am had amassed over this 6 months made"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "resistance difficult. On top of that,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "polls show that Maduro was unpopular"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "with 10 to 20% approval ratings due to"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "people being exhausted over Venezuela's"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "economic crisis and the political"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "repression in the country. So maybe few"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "were excited to put their lives on the"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "line for Maduro. Sources from"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Venezuela's opposition, however, told"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Sky News reporters that Maduro's capture"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "was actually a negotiated exit, not a"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "forceful capture. Meaning they're"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "claiming that Maduro actually knew"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "American forces were coming to capture"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "him and that he had agreed to it prior"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and this ground assault was an elaborate"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "way of him giving himself up to American"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "authorities. Why would he do that? For"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "domestic audiences in Venezuela, it"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "theoretically looks better for him to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "say, \"I was captured by the Americans,\""}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "than, \"I cut a deal,\" and laughed. It"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "was surprising to experts that Maduro's"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "wife was brought with him. Because this"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "is very unusual in rendition military"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "operations like this. His wife was"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "previously not criminally charged, and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "we only just learned that she's now also"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "being charged after their capture."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "However, there is yet to be any actual"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "hard evidence of this, even though a"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "surrender may have been negotiated. His"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "military troops would not have been"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "aware of that, and it doesn't fully"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "explain the poor performance of Maduro"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "security forces. US President Trump"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "said, quote, \"We were prepared to do a"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "second wave if we needed to do so. We"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "actually assumed that a second wave"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "would be necessary, but now it's"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "probably not.\" Another theory is that he"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "was sold out by somebody high up in the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "regime like his vice president or"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "defense minister who ordered his troops"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "to not resist the capture of Maduro. The"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "alternative for how US operators"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "successfully pulled this off without"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "losing a single helicopter is it could"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "be because modern US helicopters have"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "electronic defeat of missile systems."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "It's called direct infrared"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "countermeasures which detects tracks and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "fires a laser directly into the seeker"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "head blinds it. confuses the missile"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "doesn't know which way it's pointing and"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "that works against igloo launchers."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Those launchers require proper storage"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "also and training which they appear to"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "have not had. The 160thur flies"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "lowprofile flights as well that denied"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the enemy the ability to even see and"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "engage them. According to the chairman"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "of the joint chiefs of staff, Dan Kaine,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "the success of the mission was the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "result of months of planning and"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "rehearsals. Either way, the helicopters"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "safely made their way back over the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "nation back to the US Navy fleet waiting"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "for them offshore where this photo was"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "taken of Maduro. There were no American"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "combat fatalities in the operation,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "although some troops were reportedly"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "injured from bullet and shrapnel wounds,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "but nothing life-threatening. But now"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that Maduro is captured, who's in charge"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "in Venezuela now in the aftermath? It's"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "not as simple as a normal regime"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "toppling that you might be familiar"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "with. President Trump said that the US"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "government will now run Venezuela now in"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "the aftermath of the capture of Maduro."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "He said this will happen until a safe,"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "proper, judicious transition of power"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "can happen. The idea here is that the US"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "naval blockade of Venezuela's oil will"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "essentially in theory allow the US"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "government to control Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "authorities no matter who's in power"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "there without needing to actually put"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "the boots on the ground. The US"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "government has stated they believe no"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "further military action is anticipated"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "in Venezuela. However, the resistance is"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "forming in the nation already that could"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "challenge this. Venezuelan interior"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "minister Cabello appeared on TV in the"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "street wearing a helmet and body armor,"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "telling the population not to cooperate"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "with quote unquote terrorist enemies."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "Currently, Rodriguez was just sworn in"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "as the acting president there. And"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "according to the US government, she's"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "cooperating behind the scenes because"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "she has no choice. However, in public"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "messages, she's very defiant against the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "US. What we know for sure is that the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Venezuelan government is in disarray at"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "the moment. They called on the people to"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "take to the streets, but so far it's"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "been a quiet, muted response, not"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "millions taking to the streets in an"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "uproar. But how do the actual people,"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "the population living in Venezuela feel"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "about all of this? Do they love it? Do"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "they hate it? Something we don't talk"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "about enough. Looking at the Spanish"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "local news reporting of the situation,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "they report that the response from the"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "people of Venezuela has been mixed,"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "saying, quote, \"Residents expressed"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "shock at the US military attack that"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "left them wondering who was now actually"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "in charge of the oil rich nation. Some"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "are celebrating the fall of the"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "dictator. Other pro- Maduro factions are"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "riding around with weaponry, angry at"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "what they see as American imperialism."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "People are hoping that if Maduro is out"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "of power, sanctions against the country"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "will be reduced and possibly the economy"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "would improve. Others are skeptical of"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "what will happen in the power vacuum."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "But was any of this even legal in the"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "first place? When the US captured Saddam"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "and Noriega, they had some kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "congressional approval. When the Libyan"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "dictator was toppled, they too had some"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "kind of congressional approval. This"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "attack was conducted without any kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "notification or authorization. What"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "happens to Maduro from here? Secretary"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "of State Marco Rubio said that Maduro"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "would stand trial for criminal charges"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "in the United States for narot"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "trafficking in New York City federal"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "courts. Maduro maintains his innocence."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "If you want to learn more, check out our"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "last video about America's Abrams bomb"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "launcher."}]

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There's a"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "new conflict that arrived this year in"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the Western Hemisphere between the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "United States and Venezuela. In mid"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "December, the CIA just conducted its"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "first ever ground strikes on the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "nation's soil. Hellfire missiles were"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "launched at a port facility right along"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the coast, completely destroying it. A"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "source told CNN it was targeted because"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "the Trenda Arawa gang was allegedly"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "using it to store drugs and then load"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "them onto boats for trafficking. US"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "special operations was responsible for"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "intelligence gathering on the mission."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "And this aligns with separate reports"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "we've seen that Navy Seals are now"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "launching from stealth speedboats to"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "secretly get close to the Venezuelan"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "shores in order to mark targets. The"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "conflict is now creeping up further"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "inland because up until now, the US"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "military was limiting their missions to"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "blowing up suspected narcotics boats and"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "seizing oil tankers in international"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "waters. Going into 2026, it appears the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "US is attempting regime change against"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Maduro, who's closely, increasingly"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "aligned himself with Russia and China."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "From here, we go to the Middle East and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Syria, where America's now doubling down"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "on this new revenge campaign against"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "ISIS. 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These were ordered as part of a"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "retaliation for the death of two US Army"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "soldiers and an American interpreter who"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "were killed by a gunman in a firefight."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "But things only got more confusing from"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "there because for starters, Syria's"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Ministry of Interior Affairs came out"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "and said that the attackers had been"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "part of their own internal security"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "service, but also confirmed that the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "gunman had ties to ISIS. So what"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "happened next is the incident has"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "sparked this geopolitical crisis and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "threatened that new young blossoming US"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Syria partnership. It's thrown a wrench"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "into plans for the future of the nation."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "To find out how Syria and the US"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "relationship evolve this year and how"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "all these wars are expanding and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "spilling over into one another, be sure"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "to stick around till the end of the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "video. 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So it's a free way to kill time."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "And if you click my link in the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "description of the video with a pin"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "comment down below, you get a leg up"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "with my exclusive gift to you. one free"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "seasonal unit, the elite rail gun with a"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "value of 40 bucks, offered valid just"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "for the next 30 days, though only for"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "new players. The reason this threatens"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "America's plans in Syria, because at the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "time of the firefight, the US had been"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "actively in the middle of withdrawing"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "hundreds of soldiers. They were"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "downsizing from 2,000 troops to 700 and"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "reducing the total amount of bases in"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "the nation. The plan was to set up a"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "more official and authorized American"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "security force inside the capital of"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Damascus at the air base there, which"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "would have coordinated between Israel,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "US, and Syrian officials. However, after"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "the deadly attack, US forces may not be"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "withdrawing as quickly. Instead, they"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "launched Operation Hawkeye Strike in"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "retaliation. SenCom stated that 70 ISIS"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "targets were struck and more than 100"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "bombs and rockets were fired from"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "American fighter jets, attack"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "helicopters, and high Mars rocket"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "artillery. It sucks because just when"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "you think you're going to completely"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "pull off the band-aid and pivot away"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "from the Middle East, it doesn't quite"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "ever happen. I mean, I'm sure a few"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "people at Loheed Martin don't mind, but"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "the problem is ISIS appears to be"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "stronger now compared to a year ago"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "because what they did was exploit the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "power vacuum after the fall of Assad to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "set up multiple cells in the poorly"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "patrolled central desert. Similar to how"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "they gained power in the first place"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "with the power vacuum of the civil war."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "All that means 350 American military"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "advisers will now remain in Iraq as well"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "at the government's request in order to"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "help coordinate these new attacks"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "against ISIS. What we're seeing is"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "American special forces have now teamed"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "up with the new Syrian government to"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "execute over 80 counterterrorism raids,"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "killing new ISIS leaders as they spring"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "up. The joint raids are really important"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "to note, I think, because it's the first"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "time US soldiers have directly teamed up"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "with their new official Syrian military"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "counterparts. As the saying goes, \"The"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "enemy of my enemy of my enemy is my"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "enemy's enemy.\" This signals to me that"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "there is closer relations between"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "America and this new Syrian government."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Because after years of punishing"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "economic sanctions tied to that former"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Assad regime, in 2025, US lawmakers"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "actually repealed the so-called Caesar"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Act in December of 2025. And what this"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "did was it formally lifted major"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "sanction restrictions. It removed the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "biggest legal barriers that had"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "discouraged US and other companies from"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "engaging in the Syrian market for years"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "now because America had basically said,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "\"You can't do business in Syria or"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "you're in trouble.\" And that's all"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "changed now. It's opened the door to"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "reconstruction engagement with the new"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Syrian government. But I think the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "diplomacy of this conflict is where"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "things get really wild and weird. And"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "it's why it's true that countries don't"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "have permanent enemies or friends, just"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "interests. The new president of Syria"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "named Ahmed al-Sharah was surprisingly"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "an insurgent himself in the war in Iraq"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "fighting as part of al-Qaeda against"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "American forces for years between 2003"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and 2006. Al- Shar was even captured and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "imprisoned in an American detention"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "facility in Iraq. After his release"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "though, he went to Syria next door and"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "he rose through the ranks of the Syrian"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "civil war. The US government even put a"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "$10 million bounty on his head at one"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "point. But all that changed in 2024, of"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "course, when his forces kicked out the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "dictator Assad, who was in close cahoots"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "with Russia. So he then fled to Russia,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "where he's now reportedly saying that he"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "plays too much video games like"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Battlefield 6. Anyway, the two former"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "enemies, the US and Al Sharah, saw an"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "opportunity to partner. You guys, this"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "was a strange picture. Al- Shar traveled"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "to Washington DC to meet directly with"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the US president, American generals like"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Petraeus, who was actually in command of"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "US forces who imprisoned him. A man who"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "once fought US troops is now"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "coordinating with them on"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "counterterrorism. This is truly a cursed"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "timeline that we live in. And I say this"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "as someone who was a veteran of Iraq. I"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "I get it. I get I this is what happens"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "in geopolitics. It's like when two dudes"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "get in a fist fight and then they"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "somehow laugh it off and right"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "afterwards they become better friends"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "for it. It doesn't make sense because"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the US is making a bet that a former"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "enemy government is better than a"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "collapse in Syria and the Syrian"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "government is making a bet that working"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "with America will increase their"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "economic prosperity. Now, US diplomats"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "are trying to pressure Israel to reverse"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "their recent seizures of land in Syria"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "so everyone can get along and so that"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the US can pull out of the Middle East"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "and focus on China. But who knows if"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "that'll ever happen because going"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "forward the Pentagon has vowed that"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "these initial strikes against ISIS are"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "only the start of a broader campaign in"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Syria. So chances are there will not be"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "total peace in Syria in 2026. However,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "it's not only the Middle East that's"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "seeing a rise of war in 2025 because"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "moving to North America, we can see that"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the cartel crisis has not ended. In 2025"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "in Mexico, it escalated into what"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "analysts describe now as a internal"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "cartel civil war with rival criminal"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "organizations battling each other and"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "the state for territory and trafficking"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "routes and the capture of key cartel"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "leaders caused this fragmentation of"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "once relatively stable cartels,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "especially in the Cineella and the"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Haliscoco New Generation cartel. This"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "drove this surge of violence in 2025."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "And to confront this spiraling violence,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the Mexican government deployed its"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "security forces who carried out huge"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "strikes against cartel networks in 2025,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "arresting and killing many highlevel"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "figures in open combat. You guys might"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "be surprised to learn the new"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "administration says that homicide rates"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "in Mexico have actually dropped by 28%"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "in 2025. I think one of the first times"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "that this trend has been reversed really"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "in a significant way. And the federal"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "security minister Omar Garcia Huft"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "reported 37,000 arrests in 2025. And a"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "lot of times those people are just"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "arrest thrown into jail and then held"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "there indefinitely. It's crazy what's"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "happening south of the border here. And"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "the problem is, even if there is a"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "reduction in some kinds of violence as"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "the cartel lays low or gets annihilated,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "in other ways it spilled into Mexico's"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "politics because the assassination of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Mayor Carlos Manzo, who was an outspoken"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "advocate for aggressive anti-cartel"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "action was shocking to the nation. It"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "triggered historic widespread protest."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Throughout 2025, thousands protested in"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Mexico City and other states against"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "cartel violence and what they perceived"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "as government corruption. It was framed"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "as this kind of generation Z protest"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "movement against the cartel. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "don't know what made it the Gen Z"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "protest in particular. I saw a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "generations of people in there in"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Mexico, but uh I guess they were"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "shouting 67. These demonstrations"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "included the families of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "people who have disappeared in the drug"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "war. The farmers, students, and youth"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "groups who demand better accountability."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "In that sense, in 2025, it marked a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "turning point in the fight against"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "cartels. I think because cartel violence"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "for the first time in a long time has"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "become capable of mobilizing this kind"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "of mass protest and even attracting"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "international attention. And this is"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "important because by 2025, Mexico had"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "effectively overtaken China as the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "United States largest and most beautiful"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "trading partner. This is part of the"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "larger effort to decouple from China. To"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "that point, the Mexican government just"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "approved this year 50% tariffs on"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Chinese imports. This completely"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "reshapes the dynamic here. According to"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Mexico's president, Shine Bomb, they're"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "doing this to boost their domestic"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "manufacturing and not because there was"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "any pressure from the United States. But"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "it sort of sounds to me like it was in"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "both nations interests. It was a"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "mutually beneficial situation because"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "the US is hoping to decouple from China."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "And one of the main ways they're hoping"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "to do it is with Mexico's help. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "why especially in the northern Mexican"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "states like New Evolon and Sonora, we"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "saw major industrial expansion, new"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "factories and $40 billion in foreign"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "direct investments, including from the"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "United States. However, cartel extortion"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "along these routes has raised the cost"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "of doing business. And this is why the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "United States and Mexico sees the cartel"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "increasingly as a strategic liability in"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "larger plans to decouple from China. By"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "2025, Mexico had millions of people"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "internally displaced, many fleeing areas"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "caught between rival cartels. This"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "instability directly undercuts these"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "long-term plans for developing the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "workforce. It gets in the way of the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "grand strategy. Skilled workers are a"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "key requirement for replacing Chinese"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "manufacturing at a large scale. This is"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "why both Washington and Mexico City have"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "started reframing cartel violence as"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "more than a law enforcement issue and"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "instead as a strategic concern. From a"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "US perspective, cartels threatened the"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "North American supply chain resilience,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "which is why they're now offering to"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "conduct strikes with special forces and"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "missiles on Mexican territory. But so"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "far, Mexico has politely declined the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "invitation. In 2026, we're going to have"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "to see if America takes unilateral"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "military action or if they work out some"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "kind of agreement. So, what was once"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "treated as an internal security crisis"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "is increasingly seen as a strategic"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "obstacle to the countries in North"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "America that are trying to integrate."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "It's a problem that both governments"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "here on either side of the border are"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "having increasing trouble ignoring and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "cooperating on heading into 2026. But"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "China's having an even larger violent"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "flash point that's erupting just south"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "of their borders because in 2025,"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "tensions between Cambodia and Thailand"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "exploded into intense clashes. And we"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "didn't talk much about this this year,"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "but it is crazy because what happens"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "here has outsized consequences for the"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "United States because Thailand is a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "long-standing security partner, meaning"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "that they're a treaty ally, which means"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "that they have US-made fighter jets and"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "that their many strategic air bases"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "would likely be used by American"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "fighters in the event of a war in the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Indo-Pacific. Also on top of that,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Thailand is a major industrial hub for"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "making things like automobiles and"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "electronics like hard drives, which is a"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "problem because, as we know, the United"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "States is trying to work to diversify"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "and decouple away from China. But the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "thing is, this war has displaced more"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "than half a million civilians and"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "disrupted the labor market in Thailand."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "So, okay, like many problems, they trace"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "their roots to the end of the French"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "colonial empire when Cambodia used to be"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "part of French Indo-China. Basically,"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "what happened was in the 1900s, someone"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "drew some really poorly drawn borders. I"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "mean, for instance, this old map here"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "from France didn't line up with any"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "actual rivers and mountains. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "happy with the dividing line. Okay, to"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "oversimplify things, what conflict"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "doesn't trace its roots back to some"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "badly drawn French or British map,"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "right? The way it kicked off was"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Cambodian tourists at a temple site"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "within Thailand tried to sing the"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Cambodian national anthem. That's a big"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "party foul nogo over there. You you just"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "don't do that. And Thailand soldiers"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "stopped them. This caused a big snafu,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "you could say, between a Cambodian"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "military commander and Thai soldiers"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "start shouting at each other in this big"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "argument. Then Thai and Cambodian"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "soldiers open fire on each other,"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "resulting in the death of a Cambodian"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "officer. That's a failure of discipline"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "on some officer's point. Some some"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "officer over there, some second"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "lieutenant, all he's got to do is [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "up, not keep his troops in line, and"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "then you have a world war. So government"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "officials in both countries tried to"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "avert a wider war, but apparently"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "blaming the other side just doesn't do"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "anything to chill people out meant a"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "chain reaction was set in motion. Both"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "sides militarized the border, deploying"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "troops and cutting economic links with"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "each other. Cambodia allegedly sent a"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "rocket barrage at a residential area in"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Thailand, and Thailand responded with"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Americanmade F-16 fighter jets that"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "bombed the staging areas for Cambodia's"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "eighth and 9th Infantry Divisions."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Cambodia deployed a legacy of mostly old"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Russian and Chinese supplied equipment."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "It was wild to see this face off against"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "American provided striker infantry"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "armored vehicles fighting off against"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "Chinese anti-tank munitions. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Thailand's older F-16s, the A and B"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "models, struck deep into Cambodian"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "territory, basically annihilating"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "command centers and artillery batteries"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "with like impunity. Then came"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "significant international pressure,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "though. Tons of yelling to please, for"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "the love of God, reach a peace"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "agreement. The US and China did a rare"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "W. Got together with one another and"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "cooperated for a change and begged the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "two sides to sign this kind of uneasy"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "ceasefire. But peace was still a long"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "way off. Skrishes continued, and by"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "December 8th, it marked the return of"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "full-scale hostilities. So the Royal"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Thai Air Force launched these massive"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "air campaigns, striking targets up to 70"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "km deep inside Cambodia. Then what"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "happened next was FPV drones, these"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "cheap kind of munitions made their first"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "widescale appearance on the Cambodian"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "side. Thailand alleges for their part"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "that they were supplied and operated by"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "foreign mercenary outfits using elevated"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "positions in the highlands. Cambodian"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "infantry fired Chinese-made anti-tank"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "missiles at Thai forces, including new"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "models like the GAM 102 LR, which is"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "like basically this weird knockoff"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "version Teimu Chinese Javelin top attack"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "launcher. I mean, maybe it gets the job"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "done, but they have this huge visible"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "signature smoke trail that they leave"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "behind. Okay, so the point is today the"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "fighting across the border continues to"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "escalate with more sophisticated weapons"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "flooding into both sides of the conflict"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "which means this will be an important"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "location to keep an eye on in 2026. Now"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "moving over from here we go over to the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "India Pakistan border and we can see"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "that these are two countries where"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "modern Chinese and Western weapons are"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "now going head-to-head but in ways"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "unlike we've ever seen before. The India"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "and Pakistan conflict was controversial"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "with pretty much everyone because not"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "one single person all over the internet"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "agreed exactly on what happened here."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "However, since then, more information"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "has come to light, allowing us to better"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "piece things together. It started in"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "April 2025 when a major terrorist attack"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "killed 26 tourists in India. And India"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "accused the Pakistani government of"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "secretly backing these terrorists. And"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "in retaliation for the alleged support,"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "India launched what was called Operation"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Synindor. On the night of May 6th, the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "opening phase of the operation was a"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "wave of missile strikes against marked"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "terrorist infrastructure in Pakistan."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "According to the Indian Air Force, the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "strikes killed 100 terrorists and"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "destroyed multiple different training"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "camps. However, Pakistan countered with"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "allegations that civilian areas"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "including mosques have been the real"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "targets and that 31 civilians were"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "killed. The Pakistani government"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "retaliated with this massive artillery"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "barrage against India. There were small"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "arms fights all across the border. Drone"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "strikes were happening at one another in"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "ways we hadn't seen before. It was the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "heaviest bombardment against India in"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "over 50 years and it flattened hundreds"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "of buildings and killed 17 people. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "so this is this is definitely not good."}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "We've got two nuclear armed countries"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "who are in a crisis that is continuing"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "to spiral out of control. An Indian"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "missile even hit a Pakistani nuclear hub"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "and we all all around the world held our"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "collective breaths. India and Pakistan"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "scrambled just about every fighter jet"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "that they had available. What happened"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "next was insane. I think over 125"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "fighter jets were in the air. The May"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "7th air battle was the biggest aerial"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "engagement since World War II and the"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "largest jet dog fight that I've ever"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "heard of. India put their Frenchmade"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "Raphael fighters into service. And this"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "is where things get feisty because this"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "is an advanced European fighter jet."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "It's not a stealth jet, but it's widely"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "regarded as one of the most agile and"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "capable fourth generation fighters"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "around. The Indian Air Force had high"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "hopes for their mission because on the"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "other side, the Pakistani Air Force is"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "much smaller and far less sophisticated."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "But the thing is, they had two secret"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "weapons up their sleeves that India"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "wasn't aware of. First, they had this"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "network of advanced electronic warfare"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "platforms that China had just delivered"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "to them. And second, they had this new"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Chinese-made PL-15 missile. The PL-15 is"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "an extreme long ranged active radar"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "guided missile that we haven't seen in"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "use before. And I believe this was the"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "first time it was ever fired in anger"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "because the PL-15 has this huge standoff"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "range of over 200 km. Even though all"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "these aircraft and weapons are"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "technically export models and versions,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "they still tell us something. I think"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "some insights from this battle that we"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "can apply elsewhere because experts"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "watched closely to see what they could"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "learn about how Western and Chinese"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "weapons fared against each other. As"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "India's air strike campaign got"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "underway, Raphael fighters stood guard"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "on the Indian side of the border, ready"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "to shoot down any PAF jets that"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "threatened to strike the aircraft. But"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "India had underestimated Pakistan's"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "beyond visual range fighting"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "capabilities. The export J10C fighters"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "that that the PAF was flying didn't have"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "radars with anywhere near the range to"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "lock on to the Raphael's. The Pakistani"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "pilots had trained in this kind of air"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "ambush techniques. Instead of getting"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "close to the border to engage these"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "enemy Raphael fighters, new groundbased"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "and airborne radar operators guided"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "these Pakistani J10 jets just close"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "enough to give their long range PL-15"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "missiles a good chance of hitting"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "something. So once launched, the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Pakistani fighters then pulled back to"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "safety. At the same time, the larger"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "radar sets on the friendly radar planes"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "relayed targeting information to those"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "PL-15 missiles in midflight. Later, it"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "came out that India said that China was"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "providing live targeting data to"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Pakistan. So either way, thanks to heavy"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "jamming and without an active radar"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "lock, there was no warning that the"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "missiles were on their way. And once the"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "PL-15 Chinese-made missiles were close"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "enough to activate their own internal"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "radars, they go what's called pit bull,"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "which means its own onboard radar"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "becomes active, guiding itself to the"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "target without any external control. At"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "this point, it's already too late for"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "the Indian pilots to evade them. Now,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Pakistan reportedly shot down three"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "Raphaels that morning based on visual"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "evidence along with a Mig 29 and a Sue"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "30, although others claimed that it was"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "six jets. Months later, confirmation of"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "losses came from India's own military"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "chief himself, although he didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "confirm exactly how many. This was a"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "shock to some though. Anil Chowan, the"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "chief of defense staff of the Indian"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "armed forces said, quote, \"The good part"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "is we were able to understand the"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "tactical mistake which we made, remedy"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "it, rectify it, and then implement it"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "again after 2 days and flew all our jets"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "again targeting at long range. Now"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "everything about the conflict between"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "India and Pakistan is hotly debated"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "online and people from the region are"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "understandably very sensitive about the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "facts and they get in some pretty heated"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "uh debates in the comment sections. But"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "information coming out of this region is"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "sometimes the most difficult to confirm"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "or deny. It's very difficult to verify"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "through independent sources. Just a ton"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "of disinformation and misinformation."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "It's not easy to untangle and it's part"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "of the reason why I waited until like a"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "year later to talk about it because you"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "see where the dust settles. So, India"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "claims it wasn't a failure of the"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "Raphael as a platform or the skill of"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "their pilots. They state that this"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "tactic was difficult to defend against"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "and an air force has to be prepared for"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "it at an operational level, not a"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "tactical one. So, India says that they"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "did a lot more damage to the Pakistani"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "military than they took. But the PAF's"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "unexpected performance during the battle"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "definitely shook the world's assumptions"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "of modern air combat. This upended"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "analysts assumptions about how the war"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "might go and how effective the PL-15"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "missile could be in the Pacific against"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "American fighters. It's also was a scary"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "revelation for the world that two"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "nuclear powers could engage in an over"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "200 fighter aircraft battle and not"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "resort to nuclear war. I mean, that's"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "100% a good thing, but it also shows us"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "that nuclear powers are definitely"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "capable of fighting air wars without"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "everyone dying in a nuclear holocaust."}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Does this reveal to us that China and"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "the US could have a similar air skirmish"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "over Taiwan and not resort to full-scale"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "war? As for the larger conflict, the"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "fighting lasted just over 3 days and it"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "earned the nickname 88-hour war. Even"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "though the two sides agreed to a"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "ceasefire on May 10th, the root cause of"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "the flashoint still exists and"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "small-scale skirmishes still regularly"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "happen. And we're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "continue to follow that in 2026. But to"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "put this into context, the rise of war"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "in 2025 marks the latest in a 6-year"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "long continuing trend of armed conflict"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "growing around the globe. The Institute"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "for Economics and Peace counted at least"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "59 active state-based conflicts, three"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "more than last year and the most ever"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "since the end of World War II. The"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Global Peace Index for 2025 once again"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "slid down the peacefulness scale. Fewer"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "conflicts ended in 2025 than at any"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "point in the last 50 years. However, I"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "do want to take a moment to acknowledge"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "that it's not all doom and gloom."}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Despite the rise in global conflict in"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "2025, it wasn't uniformly worse"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "everywhere. Azerbaijan recorded one of"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "the largest improvements in peacefulness"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "which was capped by a formal peace"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "agreement with Armenia that was signed"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "on August 8th. The deal has quietly"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "reshaped the geopolitics of the south"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "caucuses. At the center of the agreement"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "is this 43 kmter strategic transit"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "corridor that links Armenia and"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "Azerbaijan. Under the terms of the deal,"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "development rights to this route are"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "actually guaranteed to the United States"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "for 99 years. roughly a hundred years,"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "you guys. Marking a rare long-term"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "American foothold in this region that"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "traditionally was dominated by Russian"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "influence and Russian security"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "guarantees. So, Washington will"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "subleasase the corridor to companies"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "that are tasked with building all these"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "rail lines, oil and gas pipelines, and"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "fiber optic cables. But this is a whole"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "geopolitical reroute. The corridor"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "allows people, energy, and data to flow"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "directly from Turkey to Azerbaijan and"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "onward to Central Asia, bypassing both"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "Russia and Iran entirely. Both of whom I"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "can say are not happy about the"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "agreement. The most striking regional"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "success story though is South America."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "It was, I think, the only region in the"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "world to improve overall in peacefulness"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "in 2025. They're they're constantly"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "avoiding world wars and conflict. It's"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "beautiful South America. I mean they do"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "have a lot of crime but anyway Indonesia"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "also had a huge increase in peacefulness"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "improving by nearly 3% according to"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "their statistics and largely due to a"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "reduction in terrorism. In the Middle"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "East Saudi Arabia achieved a large"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "increase of peace driven by a 100%"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "reduction in deaths from internal"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "conflict. This is just to name a few of"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "the improvements this year as we get"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "back to one of the places where it's"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "getting worse which is Myanmar. Because"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "meanwhile in Myanmar, a civil war"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "continues to rage right on China's"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "borders and the People's Liberation Army"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "from China might be getting more"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "involved than ever before. As of 2025,"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "the rebels appeared to have the upper"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "hand here. They've seized huge amounts"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "of territory through coordinated"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "offenses. The ruling military huna was"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "caught off guard when the feuding rebel"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "factions banded together, put bygones to"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "be bygones, and attacked multiple"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "locations together simultaneously. The"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "military hunter is at its weakest state"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "since 2021, and conflict watchers"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "wondered if the rebels might even be"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "able to take Manderlay. But supply"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "issues caught up with the overextended"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "rebels, and several coalitions of these"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "rebel fighters struggled to keep up"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "their momentum against the military Huna"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "counteroffensives. Then there was this"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "devastating 7.9 magnitude earthquake"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "that hit the country. This wild CCTV"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "footage from central Myanmar even"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "captured the ground splitting open like"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "it's going down into hell or something."}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "The damage was so bad that virtually all"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "sides of the civil war called for"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "ceasefires to focus on disaster relief."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "However, it also gave the ruling Huna"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "forces some much needed time to"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "recuperate, get their breathing space"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "because by May, the Huna opened a new"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "phase in the conflict with a campaign of"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "relentless air strikes. They correctly"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "identified that as an actual state"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "military, they had to edge when it came"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "to aerial firepower. So they dropped"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "these 500 kg bombs from jets and the"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Huna reportedly started bombing anything"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "villages, schools, monasteries that"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "suspected of harboring rebel activity. I"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "mean they do deny doing this, but a big"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "part of how the Huna has been able to"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "pull off their advances recently is"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "ironically with low tech. They've gone"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "with param motors. These motorized"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "parachute gliders can carry up to like a"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "350lb payload. pilots afloat these"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "thousand feet in the air and they just"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "toss 120 mil mortar shells down like"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "it's World War I or something. These are"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "supplied by Russia and China like a lot"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "of their equipment and the Huna has"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "turned the tide of battle recently,"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "forcing the rebels to retreat from many"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "of areas that they had taken the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "previous year. The fierce fighting is"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "also straining relations within the"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "rebel coalitions. So these pro-democracy"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "resistance fighters are back to not"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "trusting each other again. China, their"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "gigantic neighbor to the north, had"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "previously avoided choosing sides. They"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "didn't want to pick any favorites here."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "But that changed in 2025. And why is"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "that? China's dominance in central"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "markets relies on access to rare earth"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "metals, something that Myanmar has an"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "ample supply. So Myanmar's rich"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "mountains provide about 11% of the"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "world's rare earth metals. And who is"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "their main trading partner? That's"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "correct. You guessed it, China. 50% of"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "China's turbium comes from Myanmar and"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "this is a crucial metal in military"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "applications. But many of those mines"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "are in rebel held north of the country."}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "This is where the various resistance"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "groups have disrupted operations several"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "times over the past year. As a result,"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "the cost of Myanmar's metal exports have"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "risen by over 20% on top of shipping"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "delays. So because of all this,"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "basically what I'm saying here is China"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "has become increasingly annoyed by these"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "resistance groups. Beijing recently"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "pledged billions of dollars in aid to"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "the military Huna. China's increased"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "their support for the Huna and cut the"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "rebels off from dual use technologies"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "that are important for them like drones."}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "But Beijing still won't directly"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "intervene on the Hunter's behalf. So"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "where it goes from here will have major"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "ramifications for China. And here we"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "move to Africa where the civil war in"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "Sudan has been an absolute nightmare."}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "And instead of recapping the conflict,"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "what I think I'm going to do is just"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "I'll stick to what stuck out to me"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "because starting in January 7th, 2025,"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "the United States State Department"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "issued a genocide determination, meaning"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "that they concluded that the RSF members"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "committed genocide in Sudan. And the US"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "Treasury days later also sanctioned the"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "SAF leader. So, it's a confusing mess"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "there. And it's absolutely terrible"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "what's happening. There was even claims"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "that blood was visible from space. But"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "what stuck out to me the most was that"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "investigations described a critical RSF"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "logistics corridor through southeastern"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "Libya. And basically this single airship"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "that they opened was largely responsible"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "for a lot of this violence. Now because"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "over 100 cargo flights from this revived"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "airship enabled the RSF to regenerate"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "their combat power and mount major"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "operations. This included their brutal"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "capture of Alaser late in 2025. So,"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "what's happening here is the conflict"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "has everything from UKmade targeting"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "systems and armored cars to"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Chinese-guided bombs. It's a terrible"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "situation because France 24 News did an"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "investigation that found a delivery"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "certificate of 15,000 of these"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "Bulgarian-made 81 mm mortars to the UAE"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "military that matched video of a"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "shipment on its way to arm RSF rebels."}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Basically, what that means is proof that"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "the UAE is arming the conflict. The"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "Amiradi government of course denies"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "this, but a 2025 estimate puts the"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "illicit small arms trade at roughly $3.5"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "billion a year. So missiles and heavy"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "systems are no longer rare on the black"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "market of arms. And UN reports shows"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "that there are thousands of unaccounted"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "for handheld anti-air missiles that have"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "gone missing after recent wars. So this"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "deserves a whole episode, I think. If"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "you want that, let me know in the"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "comments. But but what I'm saying here"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "is that the UAE aren't the only ones"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "doing this because meanwhile Russian"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "influence remains strong here in Sudan"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "with their gold networks taking out"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "billions in resources. These are also"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "tied to their strategic courtship of"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "Sudan's military leadership around Port"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "Sudan because Moscow has renewed"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "attention in late 2025 for a potential"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "Russian naval foothold in the Red Sea."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "And then to top it all off, this"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "conflict has massive consequences with"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "huge displacement that keeps rising,"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "pushing migration of course outward"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "toward Egypt, Libya, and onward routes"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "that ultimately reach Europe. The SAF"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "and RSF have been battling out across"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "Sudan, and the power vacuum has also"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "attracted substantial external interests"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "from Egypt and Saudi Arabia and others."}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "Sudan appears to be in the middle of all"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "of this. just God bless them. God help"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "them this year because the country"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "they're rich in resources like oils and"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "minerals which of course haven't gone"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "unnoticed to these other countries. As"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "of December, both sides hold massive"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "swaths of territory with no clear winner"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "yet. And it looks like things could get"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "worse in 2026. Now, from here, we move"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "back to the Middle East for one of the"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "most controversial wars. Because since"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "October 7th terrorist attacks in 2023,"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "Israel has been fighting wars against"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran, which have"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "caused instability across the entire"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "Middle East and upended many long-held"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "beliefs about war. Israel has long had"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "its sights on Iran's nuclear program"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "that they say isn't for peaceful"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "purposes. So on June 13th, Israel"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "launched a series of surprise attacks"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "that took out key Iranian nuclear sites."}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "They also killed 30 Iranian generals and"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "nine nuclear scientists at their own"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "homes across the country, which was"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "something we'd never seen before. It was"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "a really bold move that shocked the"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "world. MSAD agents had deeply"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "infiltrated into Iran's territory, set"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "up covert drone bases that struck their"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "air defense. What was just as telling"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "though was that Iran retaliated by"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "launching over 550 ballistic missiles, a"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "thousand explosive drones at Israel and"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "the saturation managed to get weapons"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "through Israel's Iron Dome defense"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "system. So somewhere between 30 and 50"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "missiles impacted and built up areas and"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "critical sites, even with an estimated"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "86 success rate with interceptions, some"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "entire city blocks were destroyed in"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "Israel. And over the next 10 days,"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "Israel and Iran continued exchanging"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "these long range blows. And there were"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "several assumptions from this about"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "modern war that I think were challenged."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "We got our clearest picture yet of what"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "a long range missile barrage would do to"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "US military assets in the Indo-acific."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "It showed that it is very difficult to"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "defend against ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "saturation attacks. It also showed how"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "Israel's precision air strikes can knock"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "out air defense and launchers. What"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "happened next was unprecedented though."}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "US B2 bombers dropped gigantic bunker"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "busters for the first time ever against"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "Iran's nuclear facilities that were dug"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "in really deep. And in the aftermath"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "since then, what's interesting to me is"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "that we've learned a lot about the"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "operation because a lot of people were"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "guessing at the time, but now we know"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "that they were escorted by American F-35"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "stealth fighters, which suppressed"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "Iran's air defenses even further using"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "electronic warfare. And this was how"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "they helped create corridors through the"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "Iranian airspace that was able to get"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "the B2s through there. In the aftermath,"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "intelligence agencies and independent"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "analysts moved quickly to assess the"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "damage. Early intelligence reports that"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "were leaked suggested that the most"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "critical parts of the Iranian nuclear"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "program had survived, but later since"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "then, public-f facing analysts shows"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "very little activity at the sites."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Satellite imagery analyzed by CSIS"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "reveals construction equipment oriented"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "more for stabilizing the blast craters,"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "not anything that really would suggest"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "uranium enrichment had started up again."}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "Most experts now agree that the strike"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "severely damaged the facilities, setting"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "Iran's program back significantly."}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "However, some analysts assess that Iran"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "retains the ability to rebuild that"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "enrichment facility. As it stands today,"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "a ceasefire ended the major hostilities"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "between Israel and Iran and the US. Now,"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "ceasefire agreements between Israel and"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "Hamas have also been brokered that have"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "lowered the levels of violence in Gaza,"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "at least for now, and saw a return of"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "the last Israeli hostages held by Hamas."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "So, Hamas does remain a threat to Israel"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "at the moment. But for now, there is a"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "temporary end to the major hostilities"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "here because like everything else in"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "2025, the peace is fragile and we likely"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "haven't heard the last of it in 2026."}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "But one place where peace seems entirely"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "unattainable is here in the war in"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "Ukraine. Ukrainian sea drones in 2025"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "for the first time started sinking"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "Russian oil tankers in their dark shadow"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "fleet where there's like more than a"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "thousand of these oil tankers that move"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "a huge part of their oil to their"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "customers. So, a Ukrainian underwater"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "drone sunk their first Russian oil"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "tanker and then attacked two others so"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "far. And a Ukrainian underwater drone"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "also snuck into their port and crippled"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "a kilo class submarine worth an"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "estimated $500 million, although Russia"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "denies this. So, Russia's advance in the"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "east of Ukraine continues. They've"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "nearly encircled Ukrainian defenders at"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "Poke Roast before sweeping in from the"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "south to capture the city center. Yet,"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "the pace of Russia's advance, according"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "to Putin himself, has not been"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "desirable. Ukraine recently launched a"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "massive counteroffensive and recaptured"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "parts of Coupiance, which Russia had"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "believed that they had in the bag."}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "Although, it's unclear how long it's"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "going to hold. But, Russia has been"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "moving forward in 2025 at a faster pace"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "than previous years. Operation Spiderweb"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "by Ukraine showed that no conx, no"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "shipping container anywhere is safe."}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "Inside any one of them could be a mess"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "of drones waiting to just spring out and"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "destroy about a third of your strategic"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "bomber fleet. Israel did the same thing"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "to Iran. China's now outfitting all"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "their civilian vessels with container"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "missiles. The cat is out of the bag in"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "2020 forward. Logistics is now a weapon."}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces have"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "constantly struck with long range drones"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "deep inside Russia against their oil"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "refineries. This campaign has destroyed"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "around 38% of the oil production"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "capacity, which has started to have"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "effects on Russia's economy. In 2025,"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "estimates for losses combined for both"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "armies is north of 300,000 men. It's a"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "terrible tragedy. So many people are"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "dying there each week. The war is firmly"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "a battle of attrition in 2025 because"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "Russia believes that they can sap"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "Ukraine and cause a collapse of the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "front line. Meanwhile, Ukraine believes"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "that they can hold out before Russia can"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "push no further. Attempts at peace deals"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "so far seem to have gone nowhere. There"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "are a lot of unknown variables in this"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "war going into 2026. The China US Taiwan"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "conflict in 2025 saw the US approve its"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "largest ever 11 billion military arms"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "deal to send to Taiwan, which includes"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "all kinds of American missiles and"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "tanks. China was very unhappy with this"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "and since then China has significantly"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "escalated pressure on Taiwan. They've"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "started doing this annual rehearsal for"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "a blockade. This year they called it"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "justice mission 2025 up because in"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "December 2025 a gigantic Chinese naval"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "task group came from multiple different"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "axis and surrounded the island and a"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "land-based rocket force did all these"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "live fire missiles onto these different"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "zones to disrupt civilian traffic. There"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "are over 1,700 Chinese military aircraft"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "incursions across the strait this year."}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "I think this mirrors the Russia"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "pre-Ukraine invasion pattern because"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "before 2022, Russia normalized these"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "large annual military exercises to mass"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "logistics buildup and desensitize"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "observers to hide their invasion. Or you"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "could say it's similar to what the US is"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "doing with their blockade in Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "now. 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But designers"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "didn't give up. They started finding"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "loopholes to make missiles on tanks"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "work. The new M1E3 Abrams tank now has a"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "cannon launched hypersonic missile."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Basically, the munition fires a rocket"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "after it leaves the tube and can be"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "steered to the enemy target while in"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "midair. For decades, the Russian and"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Chinese military have had direct fire"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "missile tanks like the Russian 9M123"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "and the Chinese AFT10. However, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "something the American military has"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "deliberately avoided largely because the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "American way of war has been built"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "around the assumption of air"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "superiority. But the battlefield has"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "changed and with it launchers are"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "starting to make a comeback on American"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "tanks again. Not sure why it looks like"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "a Robocop turret, but I'm okay with it."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "And here's how it works. The popup"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "canister is mounted to the tank's"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "turret. All you have to do is easily"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "tear out the loader sponsson box. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "basically just extra space where troops"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "store rucks sacks and ammunition. 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It's"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "called the precision effects and"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "reconnaissance canister housed or perch"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "for short."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Dude, what?"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "I got a full-on robot chubby."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> And if you like the M1 Abrams Assault"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Tank, you'll love this episode sponsor,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "War Thunder. 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You can"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "even play on your mobile phone, so I"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "recommend doing that tonight instead of"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "doom scrolling. I promise you'll feel a"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "lot better for it. Perch launches the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Switchblade 600 munition, which is a"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "hunky 30 lb munition with an anti-armour"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "tandem heat warhead. It's similar in"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "size to a Javelin missiles warhead. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "expelled through this canister with"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "compressed gas that is sent through a"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "pneumatic ejection system that kicks it"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "out of the tube. Then once she's"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "airborne, the electric motor takes over"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "and it propels it, flying at about 115"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "miles per hour at your target of choice"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "as you control it from inside the tank,"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "steering it around. If this is a missile"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "and this is a missile, then this is a"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "flying missile. Because what we're"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "seeing now is the return of American"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "main battle tanks to the core role that"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "they were originally designed for in"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "World War I, to breach well-fortified"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "defensive lines that had caused the war"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "to turn into a stalemate. Army planners"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "are looking across the world right now"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "and realizing the fact that in Korea all"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "along the DMZ in Europe along the front"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "line with Russia and in a conflict on"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Taiwan the same thing is true"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "everywhere. In high-cale highintensity"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "large-scale combat front lines would"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "need to be broken to avoid a war of"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "attrition and stalemate. We've seen what"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "happens when front lines are breached"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "correctly and we've seen what happens"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "when they aren't. The stakes couldn't be"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "higher. And to that point, the new"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Abrams perch tank was just live fire"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "tested to demonstrate its effectiveness"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "against destroying a complex obstacle in"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "breaching front lines. And here's how it"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "did it. By the main battle tank field"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "manual, ATP3-20.15,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "step one of breaching a front line is to"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "identify the type and location of enemy"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "obstacles from near to far. In order to"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "do this, you have your lead Abrams tank"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "fire its perch munition about 40 km away"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "from the line of contact. This gives"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "your team a safe standoff with its max"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "range. Themunition is then controlled in"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "midair by an upgraded encrypted radio"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "frequency and GPS assist that all have"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "been hardened to jamming on its new"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "version. This feeds targeting data back"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "to the crew in the tank. And the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "switchblade reaches the enemy trench and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "starts flying in circles in a"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "racetrack-l like pattern in the sky."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "This is a slow loitering orbit over the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "target area. Its onboard thermal camera"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "in the nose allows the Abrams tank"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "commander to creep on and see a live"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "video of the enemy defensive line. With"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "the perch surveillance, it lets tanks be"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "more silent because usually they have a"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "big signature. They are loud and they"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "give off a ton of heat. But the perch"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "lets tanks spot the enemy far ahead"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "silently. Enemy positions are then"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "marked on a battlefield map representing"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "their geollocated positions. Its"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "surveillance shows that there are two"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "rows of concrete dragons teeth, a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "gigantic 6 m wide by 4 m deep tank"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "ditch, hundreds of landmines, and behind"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "that a Y-shaped trench filled with enemy"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "anti-tank infantry. Behind that, a"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "second line of defenses, an L-shaped"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "trench. The Perch gives tanks for the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "first time this organic over the horizon"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "surveillance capability right straight"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "with the platoon. The Abrams tank and"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "many tanks in Ukraine reportedly ran"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "into difficulty with 27 of the 31 Abrams"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "or about 87% that were lost, damaged, or"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "destroyed. Many by enemy drones from top"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "attacks. Proponents of the Perch system"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "argued that it would reduce the tank's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "vulnerability to these threats and give"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "them eyes far in advance. You no longer"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "need to call for brigades approval on"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "airspace."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> Sir, we are getting hammered. Request"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "for approval to launch our loitering"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "munitions. Over. H. Now's not really a"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "good time, sir. We are all going to die"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "out here. Request permission to launch"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "our munitions now. Over. I'm responsible"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "for deconlicting this airspace. Over."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "Never mind, sir. It's no longer a"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "problem. We're all dead now. The Abrams"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "tank's perch munition has a max range"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "that's 10 times the distance of its 120"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "mm smooth boore cannon. It uses its 40"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "minutes of endurance time to stay over"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the enemy objective before it even claps"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "cheeks. Then the Abrams tank gunner"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "presses a button on his screen that has"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "the munitions swoop down and detonate"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "over a bunch of landmine obstacles,"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "destroying them completely. And this is"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "a major concern for tanks because in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Europe there are an estimated 2 million"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "landmines. Now this diagram from the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "updated tank field manual shows what"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "happens next. In the breaching bible,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the breaching fundamentals for the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Abrams tank is to one suppress, two"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "obscure, three secure, four reduce, and"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "five assault, or the acronym sorcerer."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "To help me remember all that, your"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Abrams platoon alpha sets up a support"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "by fire position to suppress the enemy"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "trench line. Mark targets get blasted by"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "tank shells. Now, with direct fire from"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Alpha Platoon, the perch warhead"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "collapses the kill chain down from"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "multiple minutes to just seconds. This"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "kill web makes tanks a node in part of"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "this entire sensor network, which sounds"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "like [ __ ] defense buzzwords, but"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "it's like how Instagram scrapes all my"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "valuable data. This munition sends all"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "kinds of valuable data to command. Then"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "a second assault tank, Bravo platoon,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "lines up behind in a single file spaced"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "out by 50 m to prepare to make a"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "straight line shot at the enemy"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "defensive line. This is where the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "assault tank platoon has chosen to mass"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "at the most weak part of the line that"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "they identified during surveillance."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Here, the Abrams tank platoon starts"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "taking fire from a platoon of enemy T72"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "tanks. Currently, the prototype perch is"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "unable to be reloaded from under arour."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "It's still a oneandone system per"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "launcher until you get out and reload"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "it. So, you will need the other three"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "remaining munitions to be launched from"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the rest of your platoon. These"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "munitions strike anti-tank infantry"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "positions, hit artillery observers, and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "destroy one T72. These are the positions"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "that they were unable to hit with direct"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "fire from the 120 mm cannon because this"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "gives tankers now a vertical axis of"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "attack when normally they're limited to"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "that direct fire. This changes the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "different dimensions in which they think"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "about the battle space. According to the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "tank field manual, which I have here,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "ATP3-20.15,"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the next following steps need to all be"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "synchronized. I didn't realize it was"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "going to be so small. This is not the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "full-size one. Not overcompensating"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "here. First, unmanned craft dispense"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "smoke to obscure the assault. Next"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "generation smoke deployment developed in"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "2025 now obscures the enemy's view for"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "200 m for 12 minutes, just enough to"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "breach. The new chemical mix of smoke is"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "designed to defeat a wider range of"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "enemy sensors. Perch munition is also"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "able to directly target landmines and"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "concrete obstacles in the way. Once more"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "unto the breach, dear friends, because"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "at this point, the tanks begin to make"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "their way to breach the defensive line"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "and they begin to get hit with FPV"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "drones at this close range. This is why"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "the new American tank manual now"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "includes for the first time information"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "on counter drone tactics. The buy the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "book procedure still leaves a lot to be"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "desired, but appears as a first step in"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "addressing this new threat. It says the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "air guard hanging out the hatch in the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "back identifies an enemy drone, then"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "does a drone hand and arm signal to warn"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "the rest of the platoon. Contact."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Contact. I feel safer already. Then"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "radios its location. And then the tank"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "formation needs to move into a herring"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "bone configuration to increase"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "dispersion. It states you should park"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "your tank under trees about 100 meters"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "apart from one another for cover. The"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "army's experimenting with a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "different systems to help at this point."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "And one of the ways is by adding a"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "minigun to the Abrams tank for the first"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "time, possibly as a short range air"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "defense to knock down these kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "threats. It's interesting because the"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "tank field manual now gives directions"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "on where the aim point is to hit various"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "different types of drones. It also"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "suggests firing cannon shotgun type"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "canister rounds from the main cannon at"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "them. But by the field manual, it's now"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "the loader's job to search for enemy"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "UAVs. In fact, UAS is mentioned nearly"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "100 separate times in the new field"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "manual for tankers. It mentions how to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "use UAS for assaults, defending,"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "deploying them in attack and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "surveillance for pretty much every"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "tactical situation. If the army"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "continues to double down in this"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "direction of development, there are"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "modular canister launchers that can be"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "configured to launch all different kinds"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "of missiles, loitering munitions, and"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "rockets from tanks. Some tank"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "enthusiasts are even calling for"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "slapping multiple launchers on Abram's"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "tank holes and swapping out the main"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "cannon for an autoc cannon that's"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "smaller instead. However, not everyone"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "believes launchers on main battle tanks"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "is the right direction to go or even a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "good idea. Some experts believe that"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "this defeats the entire purpose of"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "having a direct fire tank. They state"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "that it's all just fancy marketing"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "nonsense that's capitalizing on the"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "whole drone craze. The argument is that"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "these missiles are a distraction from"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "the more effective tank killing weapon"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "and that they should have their own"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "dedicated separate platform that does"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "not tie up the brain power of one"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "valuable tank crew member. which is"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "where we need to bring up the rocket"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "tank that did stick because next up is"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "the reduction step in breaching"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "obstacles. Here the goal is to punch a"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "lane through the enemy defensive belt by"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "reducing it. Once the perch tank has"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "identified targets and soften them up,"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "the next rocket tank moves in. The M1150"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "assault breacher tank. It aims its two"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "gigantic rocket launchers that have"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "7,000 lb of C4 explosives and fires"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "them. The rocket motor toes the charge"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "over the minefield and obstacles and"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "blows a lane totally clear. It also"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "kills an enemy infantry squad and blows"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "up several dugouts. Its plow detonates"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "any surviving mines as it punches"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "through. RPGs detonate harmlessly off"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "the sides because its front is coated"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "with extra explosive reactive armor. The"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "72 ton tank is all just armor and"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "explosives. It sacrifices everything."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "its cannon, two crew members. It only"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "has two instead of four, a commander and"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "driver. And this is how it has just all"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "that extra armor and explosives. This"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "tank creates a narrow corridor for the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "platoon to move through. As the tank"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "moves forward, it drops lane markers so"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "that infantry and follow-on vehicles can"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "see where the clear lane is. It fills in"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "anti-tank ditches with its plow. And"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "surprisingly, assault breacher tank was"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "only created very recently in 2009. It"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "was actually the Marine Corps that kept"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "insisting and pushing for its research"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "and development. Prior to that, the Army"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "had no dedicated breaching tank at all."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Between the 1990s and then, the Army had"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "tried a few out, but nothing ever went"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "to full rate production. Proof that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "assets to defeat a frontline position"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "have received almost zero attention"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "until now. First saw combat in 2009 when"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Marines had to push into a Taliban"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "stronghold during Operation Cobra's"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "anger in Helman Province. They launched"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "25 of these mine clearing charges to"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "breach six separate lanes. And this"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "allowed the Marines to attack the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "Taliban stronghold, which fell quickly."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Once they saw the rocket tank, one"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Taliban fighter even radioed a"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "transmission saying, quote, \"Get out."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "The big boom is coming.\" End quote."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Breaching is the most difficult job"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "soldiers can be tasked with. It took the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "second marine division about 8 hours to"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "breach that Taliban minefield. And the"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "whole time tanks were running low on"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "fuel, eating up gas, and they needed to"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "be refueled. Even during the 2003"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "advance on Baghdad, Marines noted that"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "they ran into major deficiencies when it"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "came to assault breaching and counter"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "mine procedures. A lot of times the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Miklick rocket lines didn't work or the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "mine plows failed. It suggests to me"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "that the army needs to invest into more"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "tactics and systems to defeat defensive"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "lines like the new perch launcher."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Dislodging an enemy from a fortified"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "line is the last thing we want to think"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "about, but it's the first thing we might"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "need to address. The assault platoon"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "successfully makes it through the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "obstacles thanks to the cover of the"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "suppressing fire from perch munitions."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "The tank element then punches through to"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "the rear of the defenses. This achieves"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "a breach for follow-on forces to further"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "exploit. What we're seeing with the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "perch launcher and the assault breacher"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "tank. When combined together with air"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "power, they're the new theory for"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "combined arms warfare against the front"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "line. It's the new experimental tactics"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "for how to assault a well-fortified"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "dugin enemy position in modern warfare."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Attacking a front line is something that"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Western forces haven't had to consider"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "for decades. has a psychological impact"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "on the enemy. Since then, an estimated"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "240 of these ABV assault breacher tanks"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "have been built, but the Marines had to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "give all theirs up to the army now after"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "they went through the trouble of doing"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "all the R&D on it. Said submarine"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "probably seen Russia use similar tanks"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "and tactics in frontal full-on breaching"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "formations with similar ways of"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "attacking Ukrainian front lines to"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "breach. But you could see why it's one"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "of the most difficult things to do. The"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "rocket explosive has been used by Russia"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "to do more than clear minefields as"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "well. They've used it to clear entire"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "city streets by launching these kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "their version of the Miklick in urban"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "warfare in Syria and Ukraine. By 2013,"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "six of these assault breacher rocket"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Abrams tanks were sent to the Korean"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Peninsula. Deployment of these vehicles"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "usually receive strict anger responses"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "from North Korea, who says that their"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "presence is proof that America plans to"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "invade. The perch missile Abrams tank"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "and the assault rocket Abrams are two of"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "the most legitimately insane armored"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "vehicles and a sign that once again"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "breaching is back top of mind for army"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "planners. 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In the Baltics, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "officially known as the Eastern Flank"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Deterrence Line, which is a 500-m long"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "network of bunkers and fortified border"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "zones. The Eastern Flank Deterrence Line"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "is not mainly physical barriers because"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the distance is far too great. Instead,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "it's a network of computer sensors to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "fill these physical gaps. It's not"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "designed to completely defeat a"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "potential Russian conventional advance."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "It's made to slow down and channel the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "enemy's forces into these predetermined"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "kill zones. As you can see behind me, we"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "have the appetites charges that just"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "went off recently. Uh, which allows the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "trees to fall in the direction that we"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "wanted to, which also creates a enemy"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "obstacle to prevent enemy maneuver from"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "whatever direction we wanted to come in"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "from."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> To defend this massive scale of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "territory while having less hands to do"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "it, NATO is rewriting the field manual"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "on static defenses. The Army and NATO's"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "focusing their efforts at the places"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "deemed most vulnerable in the Baltics."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Here they're deploying a layered modular"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "barrier system that runs 30 m deep. The"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "way it works is that when the enemy"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "attacks, ground sensors and surveillance"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "drones spot them and alert the military."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Then long range high Mars and artillery"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "strikes saturate the land. Survivors of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "this are hit with a massive swarm of"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "lowcost unmanned attack drones. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "is left after that is hit with machine"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "guns mounted to robot ground vehicles."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Estimates are these methods will have to"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "kill or wound 70% of the attacking force"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "to be successful. But the question is,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "can new technological advances, can"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "fancy new robots and technology make up"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "for a lack of physical barriers, a lack"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "of manpower and equipment shortages? Can"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "a cloud computer network linked to"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "precision fires defend large swats of"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "territory? Taken all together, these"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "separate national efforts form a new"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "continuous 2,000mi frontier that runs"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "across eight different NATO countries."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "To put that scale into context, it's the"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "same length of the entire US Mexico"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "border, and it would take 3 months to"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "hike it. From a strategic point of view,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "the longer the front is, the easier it"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "is to probe, overwhelm, or bypass the"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "defenses. Here's what the architect of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "the eastern flank deterrence line had to"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "say. So we talk about that eastern flag"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "deterrence line and we went in and we"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "developed and said how do you get back"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "to ground deterrence in Europe and out"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "of that we developed a plan right and"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "this new technology these new forms of"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "mass that you're seeing play out across"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the world all all different things right"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "whether it's UAS long range fires"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "electronic warfare unmanned ground"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "systems"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> it's designed this way to cover large"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "sections of land that may not already"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "have trenches pre-plotted artillery and"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "mortar kill zone are linked to a network"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "of sensors and then anything that makes"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "it past that runs into rows of"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "landmines, then physical obstacles,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "including anti-vehicle ditches and rows"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "of concrete dragons teeth. These are"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "strategically placed at the high-speed"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "avenues of approach that lead directly"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "to the Baltic state capitals. The second"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "line of defensive positions in the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "network is over 600 bunkers of"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "distributed firing positions, trenches,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "and roadblocks. Infantry and anti-tank"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "javelin teams fight from here. So the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "first charge that we detonated was our"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "shapes which allows us to puncture holes"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "deep into the ground which then allows"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "us to carry our our crater charges to"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "input into the holes which then will"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "allow the blast to create a massive"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "crater in the ground. Shapes and craters"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "are supposed to help create anti-"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "vehicle obstacles to prevent vehicles"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "from maneuvering down a certain"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "direction."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> When we zoom in and look at the ground"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "level terrain here we see another"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "challenge compared to the old Cold War"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "dividing line. Repositioning troops"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "across this part of the front is much"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "more difficult due to marshy terrain."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "It's filled with dense forests, swamps,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "and river crossings. There is only one"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "highway into and out of the Baltics to"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "the rest of Europe. NATO doctrine"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "assumes reinforcements will arrive. This"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "geography assumes that might not happen."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "When a military doubts their own"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "defenses or the defenses of their enemy,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "it creates an environment where"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "miscalculations are more likely."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "However, the sheer physical scale of it"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "is only one part of the story. The"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "financial cost also echoes the Cold War"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "era as well. The European Deterrence"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "Initiative in the United States"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "requested $2.9 billion from America in"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "2025 to deter Russia. Poland's portion"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "of the defensive line will cost over $50"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "billion with much of that funding coming"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "from the EU. And the Baltics and Finland"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "are spending a combined billions of"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "dollars more as well. The eastern"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "flank's new defensive line is being"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "constructed to prevent the smaller"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "contingent of forward forces from being"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "overrun long enough for those"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "reinforcements to arrive. Similar to the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Cold War doctrine, it's a kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "tripwire force here. Troops stationed"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "here jokingly refer to themselves as"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "tactical speed bumps. The Cold War"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "divide was dangerous, but it was also"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "strangely stable. It was governed by"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "decades of direct communication between"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Washington and Moscow, and that line"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "barely moved. However, today's dividing"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "line sits on an active highintensity war"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "that moves closer to Poland's border"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "every month. The sides are again"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "operating under deep distrust and"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "minimal transparency. Predictable"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "threats can be less dangerous than"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "unpredictable ones. But what is"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "concerning is how this conflict is being"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "increasingly viewed as an existential"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "threat by NATO and Russia. And the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "challenge becomes more clear when you"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "zoom out and look at the geography. In"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Estonia, there's only 127 miles from the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "border with Russia to the capital city."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "You could drive that in about an hour"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "and a half if you're gunning it. In the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "old Cold War, both blocks had more"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "strategic depth. They could trade space"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "for time, which makes this new border in"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "some ways more dangerous. However, the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "defining issue along the defensive wall"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "is manpower. The shortage of manpower is"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "what has shaped all of the decisions for"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "how this fortification is being built."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "The Estonian army has roughly 6,000"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "active soldiers with a NATO force of"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "2,000 UK and French troops also deployed"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "here. And if we look across the whole"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Baltics, we see that there's roughly"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "29,000 active duty soldiers total here."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "This does not fully take into account"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "reserve forces or air power advantages,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "but it outlines the basic tactical"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "problem. Further south in Poland, the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "system continues, but under a different"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "name, the Eastern Shield. This runs from"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the Kenagrad enclave down along Bellarus"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and towards Slovakia, which is another"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "500 miles. Poland's eastern shield has"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "an entirely different strategy than the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Baltics. They expect to absorb the first"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "hit and then fight a long protracted war"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "on their own soil if they have to. The"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "shield here does not have the benefit of"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "being built around geographic obstacles"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "like in the Baltics. This is why you see"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "fulllength anti-tank ditches and"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "multi-mile long trench systems laid out"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "in depth. The scale of the project is"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "gigantic with 8,000 combat engineers"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "working to lay 10,000 concrete dragons"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "teeth and over 800 m of layered anti-"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "vehicle barriers backed up by massive"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "amounts of artillery. Terrain denial is"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the focus on this stretch. manpower and"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "mass is less of a problem on this"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "section of the front because in Poland"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "there's 280,000 well-trained and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "equipped active forces with an"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "additional 10,000 American soldiers"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "already stationed there before"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "reinforcements arrive. The defining"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "piece of this part of the puzzle is"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "instead the anti-air assets with 48"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Patriot air defense launchers provide a"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "protective umbrella for forces massing"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "here. The Eastern Shield is unique"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "because the logistics backbone is being"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "built here. Poland would be the transit"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "region into the Baltics and much of the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "large stockpile of fuel and ammo are"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "positioned here because they have the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "space. However, there are new challenges"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "facing them. During the Cold War,"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "supplying the interior defensive lines"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "across the Warsaw packed border was a"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "much easier problem to account for. The"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "USSR could command a unified block under"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "one authority, while today's NATO and EU"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "is an alliance of sovereign states that"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "must coordinate instead of obey. This"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "makes rapid unified action more"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "difficult. The dividing line has more"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "choke points, less reinforcements, more"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "distance to cover, and less political"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "cohesion in order to cover it. This is"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "part of the reason why every war game"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "that the US Army and NATO ran prior to"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "this year resulted in a loss. The"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Baltics were overrun quickly in"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "simulations. In response, several"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "solutions were put into place since"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "then, though. Sam Rosenberg, a US Army"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "strategist who's serving as the concepts"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "branch chief at the US Army Europe. He's"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "a former infantry officer and he"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "explains that a major shift in NATO"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "planning started in 2022. This is when"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the alliance decided that they would not"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "allow territory to be lost and then"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "recaptured. The plan would instead be to"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "prevent territory loss to begin with."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "But in order to achieve this, they're"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "relying heavily on lowcost drone swarms"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "to be successful. Despite all of these"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "extensive defensive measures, not all"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "military planners expect this new"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "defensive line to work. Critics of"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "static line defenses say that they sap"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "up resources and are expensive to"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "maintain. Skeptics argue that these are"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "just sci-fi fantasy concepts relying on"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "robot armies and fancy network of AI"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "buzzword command centers that aren't"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "mature technology. A defense commentator"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "writing for the center of European"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "policy analysis believes these"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "fortifications are insufficient. The US"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Army themselves acknowledge Russia has"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "the advantage in manpower and equipment"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "on this front and that Russia can choose"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the time and place of the attack. The"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "conventional wisdom of fortified static"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "lines have been questioned at its"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "foundation by critics and it's been"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "defended by others. In some cases,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "they've worked to deter war and in"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "others, these static line defenses have"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "failed spectacularly. It's not the first"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "time countries in Europe have built a"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "highly militarized wall. The French"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "built the 280 m long Machino line before"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "World War II, which would have cost $7"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "billion today. And the Warsaw Pax's Iron"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Curtain during the Cold War was"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "equivalent to tens of billions of"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "dollars today. And at its peak, the"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Soviets had roughly 200,000 personnel"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "assigned to guarding the border along"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "all frontiers. And an additional 1.4"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "million Soviet soldiers were deployed in"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Europe. But this was across a much"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "shorter dividing line because at its"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "most heavily fortified section in"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Europe, the gap was only 400 mi long."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Both dividing lines were born from"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "moments of shock. The Iron Curtain rose"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "from the ruins of World War II. The new"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "defensive line is taking shape after"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "The Israeli Barlev line was a famous"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "chain of positions along the Suez Canal"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "that was unable to stop the Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "army in 1973. The Majinino line from"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "France ultimately showed that static"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "defenses can be outmaneuvered when new"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "technologies and tactics change the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "rules of the battlefield. US Army"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "General Patton once said, quote, \"Fixed"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "fortifications are a monument to the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "stupidity of man.\" But the Army today"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "states in their explanation that the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "concept that they're working on is based"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "on what already was tried and true and"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "worked in the war in Ukraine. They say"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "all they've done is scaled that concept"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "up. Further north, Finland is working to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "harden over 600 miles of its border with"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Russia. Like a World War II flashback,"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "today in Finland, there's once again"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "construction of fortifications, but this"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "time long razor wire fences to stop"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "illegal entries of migrants at their"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "nine border crossings with Russia. The"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "old iron curtain kept people locked in,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "and the new line tries to keep"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "instability out. The history of all"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "these defensive lines echo all the way"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "to today because Finland's famously"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "created the Manheim line by 1939 and it"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "held the Soviet Red Army back with 3 to1"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "odds for 2 months during the Winter War."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "It was then captured and is today part"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "of Russian territory. Finland Salo line"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "was even longer 600-m elaborate network"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "of trenches and fortifications built as"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "a deterrent against the Soviets. It was"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "never put to the test of combat. During"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "the Cold War, there were clear rules and"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "red lines that often weren't crossed."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Today's frontier has fewer agreed on"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "norms, new ways to attack one another,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "and more intense gray zone attacks that"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "create uncertainty. That ambiguity"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "introduces a different kind of risk."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "When defenses are thin and reaction"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "times are short, even small incidents"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "can be misread. This in turn increases"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "pressure to act quickly, sometimes even"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "preemptively in order to avoid being"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "caught off guard. Beginning in 2025,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "NATO members are now suggesting"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "exploring preemptive sabotage. The"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "chairman of NATO's military committee,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Admiral Draon, just told the Financial"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Times that the alliance is quote looking"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "at being more proactive instead of"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "reactive, which includes conducting"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "sabotage operations inside Russia."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "Admiral Draone said, quote, \"A"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "preemptive strike could be considered a"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "defensive action. NATO and European"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "officials are now openly talking to the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "press about conducting cyber and"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "physical attacks in Russia. Russia's"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "been accused of carrying out multiple"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "cyber attacks throughout Europe for the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "past few years, which have cost millions"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "and millions of dollars. These are forms"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "of warfare that didn't exist during the"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Cold War along the Iron Curtain.\" NATO's"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Admiral Draggon said, quote, \"How"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "deterrence is achieved through"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "retaliation, through preemptive strike,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "this is something we have to analyze"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "deeply because there could be in the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "future even more pressure on this.\" End"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "quote. Russia's foreign ministry said in"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "a statement about that, quote, \"It's an"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "extremely irresponsible step and that it"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "indicated NATO's readiness to continue"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "moving towards escalation.\" End quote."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "This marks a major change in diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "messaging from the alliance compared to"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "anything we've heard publicly before."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "These countries on the dividing line are"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "racing to complete these projects"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "because the timeline for possible war"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "has changed. In November, a Russian"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "agent was accused of blowing up railroad"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "tracks in Poland with explosives to"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "derail a train with aid for Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Drone and fighter jet incursions, arson,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "and assassinations all have happened."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "NATO officials assess that Moscow could"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "be prepared to launch an attack on a"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "smaller NATO country like Estonia by"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "2029 or sooner. Russia has in turn"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "denied all these allegations much like"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the diplomatic messages on both sides in"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "the cold war. To solve this problem of"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "just how massive this dividing line is,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "NATO established two joint operations."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "So the first is the Baltic Century which"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "patrols the waters with fast attack"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "craft and the second is Operation"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Eastern Century which patrols the skies"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "with multiple countries fighter"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "aircraft. To the south, Romania has this"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "stretch of vulnerable airspace that adds"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "another 200 m to defend. The key node in"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "this air effort is a little known base"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "in Romania that has the largest NATO air"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "base of all. Here's where the alliance"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "projects power into the Baltic and Black"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Sea. But the downside is that these"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "missions cost millions of dollars a year"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "to maintain. Meanwhile, sabotage"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "missions are relatively inexpensive."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "This is the catch of asymmetric warfare."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "And the equation could get worse."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Officials believe if a ceasefire or"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "armistice is reached in Ukraine, it"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "could free up Moscow's resources for"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "additional sabotage operations. A novel"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "problem of the new dividing line, unlike"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "the Cold War, is the Kenigrad enclave."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Analysts believe it's one of the most"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "likely places for a conventional"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "conflict to begin. But US Army European"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Commander General Donahghue recently"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "made a very different statement about"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "this kindrad saying, quote, \"The army"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "and the allies now have the capability"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "to take that down from the ground in a"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "time frame that is unheard of and faster"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "than we've ever been able to do.\" From"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "here, Russia routinely jams European"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "aircraft with GPS jammers. They house"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "hundreds of tanks and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "soldiers. The Swalky gap between"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "Kolinrad and Russia is only 42 mi long"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "and represents the only ground supply"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "line into and out of the Baltic states."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Soldiers believe they'll be outnumbered"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "here. But General Donny said, quote,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "\"We've already planned that and we've"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "already developed it. The massive"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "momentum problem that Russia poses to"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "us, we've developed the capability to"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "make sure that we can stop that mass and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "momentum problem. The land domain is not"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "becoming less important, it's becoming"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "more important.\" End quote. This is"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "messaging unlike anything we've heard in"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "the past. What makes this frontier"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "especially risky is how escalation works"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "today. Beyond all those lines, the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "furthest frontier in the new divide is"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "the active highintensity war zone"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "between Ukraine and Russia itself. And"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "this is unlike anything seen near the"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "dividing line during the Cold War."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "During the Cold War, the latter was more"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "predictable. But today, a cyber outage,"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "a drone crossing a border, or damage to"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "a rail line can all be interpreted as"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "something far more dangerous that"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "triggers escalation. The Iron Curtain"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "was a sealed shoot tokill border"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "designed to keep people in. It was"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "rooted in a global ideological"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "confrontation and it divided two"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "economies with almost no crossber"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "contact. It cut trade to near zero. But"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "today, Europe and Russia still have"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "economic ties through energy, grain, and"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "sanctions carveouts. There's still some"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "flow of people between the two sides and"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "attempts at diplomacy. In some ways,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "there is hope that this new dividing"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "line will not lead to war if we're able"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "to find a way to manage and balance"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "risks. When taken together, these"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "dynamics show a Europe that is once"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "again divided by military risk and"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "geopolitical rivalry, but in ways that"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "are very different from the Cold War."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Will this new high-tech fortification be"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "seen in the future as a successful"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "deterrent to war? or will it be"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "remembered like imagin line? I'm your"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "average infoterman, Chris Cappy. If you"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "enjoyed this video, check out this"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "companion video about NATO's plan to"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "deploy 800,000 troops to this eastern"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "front line. Ending transmission."}]

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Can"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "the Navy rebuild in time before China"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "closes the gap? What new ships and"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "tactics are they planning? Why am I"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "deathly afraid of going into the water?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Let's find out. 2016 was the pivotal"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "year when the Navy first realized they"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "needed a complete overhaul. They'd"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "accomplished a lot at this point,"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "running 11 nuclear aircraft carriers,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "fielding the largest, most advanced"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "ballistic missile submarine fleet on"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Earth and the most combat proven"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "destroyer force. All under the care of"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "some 400,000 well-trained sailors with"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "combat experience and a dislike for"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "boats being touched. But according to"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "the Navy's top officers, beneath all"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "this, the whole system was quietly"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "falling apart. But the US Navy has been"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "busy. They just seized an oil tanker."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "And we'll use this episode sponsor,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Ground News, to analyze that story. So"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "in it, the bullet points tell me that"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the US special forces along with Coast"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Guard boarding crews flew a Navy"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "helicopter and fast rope onto an oil"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "tanker, seizing it off the coast of"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Venezuela. Ground News bullet points"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "notes that officials say it could"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "severely hinder Venezuela's oil exports."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "My favorite part is how ground news"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "identifies which sources have the least"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "amount of bias and the highest"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "factuality rating. For this story, there"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "are 182 nonbiased center sources to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "choose from. Left-leaning coverage"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "frames this all as imperialist"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "aggression and calls the Navy pirates."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Right-leaning outlets, however, point to"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "this being an Iranian linked vessel."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Ever since I started using ground news"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "as my homepage, I immediately started"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "seeing the world more clearly because"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "they don't have any kind of agenda to"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "push and because I believe in them so"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "much. They're offering you guys 40% off"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "the same Vantage plan that I use. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "click the link in the description or go"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "to ground.news/cappy"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "or scan the QR code. It brings the price"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "down to just five bucks a month like a"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "cup of coffee. Give Ground News a shot."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "After years of focusing on two land"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "wars, massive budget cuts, and a slow"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "hollowing out of the industrial"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "workforce, the Navy had shrunk to its"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "smallest size since World War I. By"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "2016, there was only 274 warships in the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "entire inventory. ill gross. I know."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "China's fleet size has passed the Navy"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "in overall numbers, and they're adding"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "thousands of tons per year, outpacing by"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "a factor of five. As it stands,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "America's Navy does have nearly twice"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "the tonnage compared to China at 3.6"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "million tons. Add on Japan, Australia,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "and South Korea for a more complete"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "picture of regional allies. But that's"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "not the full story. 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And with the home field"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "advantage, we have to take into account"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "that China fields another roughly 1,200"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "missile launchers on land. So now we"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "understand the very basic high-level"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "numbers that war planners are looking at"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "at the Pentagon. Anyone who can read a"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "simple trend line like myself after I"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "had some handholding saw it was not"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "painting a great picture. All of this is"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "to say that 2016 is the first year since"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "the Cold War that Congress created a"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "mandate requiring the Navy to rebuild"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "its fleet to at least 355 ships. It was"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "also the same time when the Government"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "Accountability Office dropped this"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "report showing the aging facilities of"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the country's four maintenance"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "facilities resulted in a combined 14,000"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "operational days lost between carriers"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "and submarines. But how would this"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "complicated large-scale project to"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "correct all of this be accomplished?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Today, the Navy's ship building capacity"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "has once again shrunk by roughly 50%"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "after the end of the Cold War. Then"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "there was the onetwo punch of years of"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "budget cuts and outsourcing of"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "industrial production overseas. 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It can't speed up how long it"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "takes to train skilled workers. They"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "need 100,000 more personnel to construct"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "next generation submarines. And after"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "just a few short years, by 2019, the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "fleet's rebuild was off track. Navy"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "leaders called projects like the Lator"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "combat ship and the Zumalt destroyer"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "failures that had completely derailed"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "the rebuild schedule. Ill gross, I know."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Admiral Mike Gilde becomes the 32nd"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Chief of Naval Operations and attempts"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "to refocus the rebuild. He was a good"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "man for the job because Gilde had spent"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "his entire career on the deck of surface"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "warships, working his way up, starting"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "on a Perryclass frigate, deploying in"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "the Gulf War and later rising to the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "rank of commanding a carrier strike"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "group in the Middle East. He understands"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "naval warfare better than almost anyone."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "He knew what needed to be built. And"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "early in his tenure, war games delivered"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "a shock to planners like Gilde."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Simulated conflicts in the Pacific kept"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "ending with large concentrated"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "carrierbased naval formations not being"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "able to get within striking distance of"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "China's coastline without taking"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "unacceptable losses. The Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "produced a classified internal report"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "called the overmatch brief. The"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "intelligence report found the carrier"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "fleet would take heavy losses and Gilde"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "understood the Navy could no longer"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "operate the same way they had in the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "past. that forced him to rethink the mix"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "of ships that he needed to rebuild. In"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "2020, Gilde and Navy leadership pushed"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "hard for a new doctrine called"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "distributed maritime operations, DMO."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "This spread combat power across many"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "smaller nodes instead of a few giant"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "capital ships. It's a doctrine of"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "telling everyone to get out of your"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "personal space. These nodes work as a"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "network spreading long range missile"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "fires across thousands of miles. DMO"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "made it harder for the adversary to"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "break the fleet's cohesion with a single"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "blow. But this approach had one big"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "requirement. It needs ships, lots of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "them. Time to put the towamp doctrine"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "into the test. Former head of the Navy,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Admiral Gilde, had this to say about it."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Quote, I don't mean to be dramatic, but"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "I feel like if the Navy loses its head,"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "I think we may not be able to recover in"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "this century. based on the trajectory"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the Chinese are on right now. And again,"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "I don't mean to sound dramatic. I just"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "get the sense that this is not a decade"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that we can afford to lose ground. Sir,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "that's not even theater kid levels of"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "dramatic yet. That led to the most"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "ambitious naval blueprint in a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "generation. Gild commissioned the future"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "naval force structure study and then"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "based on those findings crafted what"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "became known as the battle force 2045"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "plan. It outlined a fleet of originally"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "500 surface ships, which was reduced"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "then to 381, plus 150 unmanned"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "platforms. Now, the Navy calls for"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "growing to 78 total submarines,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "increasing to 75 small surface"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "combatants, nearly 52 tier amphibious"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "fleet of large and small landing ships,"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "upgraded to 96 destroyers, 56 frigots,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "while keeping the aircraft carrier"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "static at about 11. It shows how the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Navy sees their future role of focusing"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "on keeping an underwater advantage. This"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "is what is set to grow the most, the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "submarine classes. But don't take my"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "word for it. I'm just someone who grew"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "up with an above ground pool, which is"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "white people coded for poor. Would this"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "be enough warships for a global force"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "posture? Take a look at this map. It"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "shows how the Navy is organized around"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the world today. They have seven active"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "numbered fleets and each fleet covers a"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "different geographic region. For"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "example, fifth fleet is responsible for"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "the Middle East. When a ship deploys to"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "a region, it falls under the command of"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "that fleet's responsibility for the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "region. During the Cold War, there were"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "only four fleets. After the Soviet Union"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "collapsed, America's strategy splintered"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "across multiple regions, splitting up"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the force. So, if we take this into"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "account, the US Navy's seventh fleet"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "alone has roughly 1,000 VLS missile"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "cells. Add in regional allies of South"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Korea, Japan, Australia, you get a total"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "of closer to 4,000. But this shows the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "conundrum. However, consolidating the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "fleet once again could possibly reduce"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "strain. We can no longer be everywhere"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "all the time, knowing who's being"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "naughty and knowing who's being nice. To"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "this point, for the first time ever, the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "new US government's 2025 national"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "defense strategy outlines priority"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "theaters for the Navy. In it, they state"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "that the days of spreading the Navy out"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "across the world thin from Europe to the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Middle East to the Pacific are over."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "According to the document, America's now"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "focusing naval forces on the Western"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Hemisphere and the Pacific to reduce"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "fleet demands. But even with these"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "efforts to focus and focus and focus,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "there's still the issue of time. The"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "clock is ticking and the race is on. The"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "ships Admiral Gilde needed, most weren't"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "close to being ready. The next"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "generation destroyer, DDGX, is being"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "designed as the backbone of the future"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "fleet. It's 35% larger, equipped with"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "128 missile cells, but it isn't"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "scheduled to begin construction until"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "way into 2032. Generation Beta will be"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "fighting by the time it's ready. The"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Navy can't wait that long, so they had"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "smaller ships coming up first. Gilde had"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "already learned from the failures of the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Latoral combat ship and the Zoom Walt"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "program. Both were built under unproven"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "technologies and promised capabilities"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "that didn't materialize. Hilde openly"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "warned his staff against repeating those"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "mistakes, saying, quote, \"We've"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "decoupled new technology development"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "from building ships. Instead, we're"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "designing them with programs of record"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "systems and margins to insert future"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "technologies when they're tested and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "ready.\" The Navy then tries to apply"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "this philosophy to construct 20 of the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "new constellation class frig. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "supposed to be delivered from a proven"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "European design, but built to American"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "specifications. Mama Mia, sounds great."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "However, once again, delays mounted and"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "budgets ballooned as more and more was"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "added to the design. Like Bethesda was"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "secretly running the project. In 2025,"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "the new CNO Admiral Daryl Calo comes and"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "takes everything in a slightly new"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "direction. The priority shifts to"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "operational readiness right now. It"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "shifts to being able to fight tonight."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Under his watch, the constellation"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "frigate is shockingly cancelled. They"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "state it's the usual suspects because of"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "cost overruns, delays, and poor"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "planning. This sends a shock through the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "industry."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Today, I can announce the first major"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "public action in this reshaping. A"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "strategic shift away from the"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "constellation class frigate program"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "terminates for the Navy's convenience,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the last four ships of the class, which"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "have not begun construction. The"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "cancellation triggered a major strategic"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "pivot. and what was the fastest way to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "mass firepower while they searched for a"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "new frigot? The Navy decided to divert"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "resources to building the Marine Corps's"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "medium landing ship. It was based on a"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "proven Dutch design, and it promised to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "solve an urgent problem. The LSM would"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "carry Marines, lots of Marines, armored"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "vehicles, and supplies across the"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Pacific without relying on ports or"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "things like political access. Because"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the LSM is a 4,000 ton ship, roughly 100"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "m long, with a bow ramp capable of just"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "dropping straight onto an unprepared"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "beach, and it just lets you slay on the"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "high seas. It has more than a,000 square"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "m of cargo space, room for two company's"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "marines, and it's lightly armed with two"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "30 mm cannons. The Navy plans to buy 35"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "of them. So once completed in a single"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "lift, they could deploy about 9,000"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "Marines and more than 17,000 tons of"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "equipment, enough to reposition an"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "entire Marine expeditionary unit, an"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "entire MW across the Pacific. And this"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "aligns with the Marine Corps's new force"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "design 2030 to set up temporary missile"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "sites all over the place and be"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "unpredictable. But there is another"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "untapped possibility that could almost"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "double production capacity. One of the"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "biggest changes since World War II era"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "of rebuilding the fleet is that allied"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "countries are far more advanced and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "prosperous today. The United States has"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "8 yards for building warships. China's"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "over 20 alone. The US can build about 10"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "major ships per year, while China can"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "build more than 25. However, that number"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "could be offset by taking advantage of"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "foreign shipyards. But there are pros"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "and cons to this approach. Instead of"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "operating independently, the US and"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "South Korea and Japan could build ships"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "together. America could leverage the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "industrial base and workforce of its"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "allies. Naturally, because of the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "geographic location, countries located"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "already in the Pacific would have a huge"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "advantage. Former Navy Secretary Del"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Toro said, quote, \"We do this in the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "aircraft industry, where in India, for"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "example, were building aircraft engines"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "now and reinstituting them here in the"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "United States.\" End quote. This presents"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "the US Navy with a unique opportunity."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Japan's industrial base already plays a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "huge role in supporting naval readiness."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Their 12 shipyards are known for their"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "efficiency and outstanding welding."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "South Korea has huge industrial capacity"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "at three major shipyards and some of the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "most advanced in the world that are"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "currently looking to take on more"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "projects. But there's several problems"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "with this. No Allied shipyard is"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "currently authorized to construct US"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Navy combatant vessels. There's a major"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "legal framework that prohibits ship"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "building outside the United States for"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "the Navy. The Buy America Act requires"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "vessels be built in US shipyards using"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "US labor and mostly US materials. This"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "isn't unusual, though. The same is true"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "for most armored vehicles, even if their"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "designs are foreign. They're built in"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "factories located in the United States."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Matthew Paxton, president of Ship"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Builders Council of America, said"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "efforts to build in foreign nations was"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "quote, \"These efforts are driving"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "layoffs to the very domestic workforce"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Navy leadership says it wants to"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "preserve.\" End quote. Furthermore, the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Jones Act requires these ships be built"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "in America. This would have to be"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "reformed or repealed, which would be"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "difficult and require legislative"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "changes, which are the most boring kind"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "of changes. However, on the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "that would come with all the downsides"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "of building overseas, which includes"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "giving away tens of thousands of jobs"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "and billions in contracts and would"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "present potential security issues. But"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "there have been signals that could soon"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "change. This year, the new US Chief Navy"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Admiral Officer Calle publicly visited"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Japanese and South Korean shipyards to"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "evaluate their sustainability to"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "possibly build US ships. Behind the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "scenes, the Pentagon has commissioned"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "studies on modular foreign production"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "where allies could build just specific"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "sections that are then later assembled"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "at US yards. The House Armed Services"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Committee recently asked the Pentagon to"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "provide a full assessment of allied"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "shipyard integration options. So far,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "even getting warships built at private"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "commercial yards in the United States"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "domestically is a hurdle that still"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "needs to be overcome. One of the biggest"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "opportunities that the Navy has today"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "that it didn't have in the 1930s is the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "ability to construct unmanned warships."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "I know drones are lifeless and boring,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "and talking about clankers sucks, so"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "this section will be short."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "No, but it's important because building"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "a destroyer takes up to 7 years. An"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "aircraft carrier takes closer to a"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "decade instead of the one year that it"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "took in World War II. But unmanned"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "vessels can be built in a fraction of"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "the time and cost a fraction of the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "money. Critically, they aren't"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "restricted by the buy America laws, so"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "they can be built overseas. These are"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "already combat proven in the war in"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Ukraine. So, the Navy is hoping that"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "this could be their ace up their sleeve."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "The strategy here is once again to throw"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "money at it because the DoD's 2026"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "budget has allocated $2 billion or more"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "for the program that's been dubbed the"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "hybrid fleet. It's built around two"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "flagship unmanned programs that you need"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "to know about. The first is the large"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "unmanned surface vessel. These are"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "essentially robotic clanker missile"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "magazines that are floating launchers,"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "steelhole ships designed to carry"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "between 16 and 32 vertical launch"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "missile cells. It can sail thousands of"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "miles, operate for a month without a"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "crew, and plug directly into the"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "destroyer fire control network. Early"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "estimates put each one at roughly $250"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "million compared to a $2 billion Arley"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Burke destroyer, and it can be built"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "within just 2 years. A second version"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "can be reoutfitted with surveillance"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "capabilities and ISR instruments and"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "would instead focus on spotting the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "enemy. Then there's the Orca, which is"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "the answer to the reason why I'm afraid"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "of going in the water, because these"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "things are down there. It's an"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "extra-large drone submarine, roughly 85"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "ft long with the ability to stay"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "underwater for months. She lays mines,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "and gathers intelligence without risking"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "any crews lives. Each one only costs 120"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "million, about onetenth the price of a"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Virginia class attack submarine. At a"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "time when every year counts, unmanned"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "vessels may be the only way the Navy can"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "rebuild its fleet in time. But"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "rebuilding the tonnage of the fleet is"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "only half the naval puzzle. The Navy"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "also has to rebuild maintenance capacity"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "at the same time. Take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "63page long Government Accountability"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Office audit from 2017 of America's four"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "public shipyards. No one is more"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "self-critical of our forces than we are."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "and it revealed that some dry docks are"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "over 100 years old from 1919. Some"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "facilities still use World War II era"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "cranes. One shop had a wooden roof from"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "1898. The GAO report was a major warning"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "that something drastic needed to be done"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "to sustain the force. The following year"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "in 2018, the Navy started the $20"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "billion shipyard infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "optimization program, SOP. Admiral"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "William Galanus took over Navi. And he"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "was a great guy for the job because he'd"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "spent his entire career delivering fixed"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "ships on time. And the first thing he"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "pushed for was digital twins, which is a"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "complete highresolution laser scan 3D"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "virtual model of the shipyards brick by"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "brick. Because these buildings had a ton"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "of pipes that nobody even knew where"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "they were connected to, even a whole"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "mysterious underground railroad track"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "that wasn't on any map. For the first"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "time, the Navy could simulate shipyard"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "workflows and crane movements before"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "even needing to pour any concrete. And"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "the next thing that he did was enforce"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "long-term 50-year planning into a system"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "that up until then had mainly thought"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "about things yeartoyear. Take a look at"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "this map. It shows the location of"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "America's four shipyards. Almost all"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Navy maintenance happens in only these"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "four locations, and they needed to"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "rebuild without ever fully shutting"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "down. The centerpiece of the whole"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "project is the 17 dry docks throughout"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "here. Dry docks are basically like a"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "medical operating room for a ship. As"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "long as three football fields placed end"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "to end as wide as a 12lane highway and"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "deep enough to submerge a six-story"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "building. You pump the water out, slip"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "your ship on blocks, and then you fix"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "her. The problem is they're too small"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "and shallow for the new advanced"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "submarines. They're cracking and they"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "have ancient utility lines. In 2021,"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "major construction starts. immediately"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "they realize it's going to cost a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "more. New cost estimates believe that"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "the plan will actually be closer to"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "almost twice as much at $40 billion"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "instead. that's fine. Just toamp"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "it. Dry dock repairs are coming in at"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "six times the original estimates."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "Whoops. Congress is pissed. They're"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "asking why."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "For the love of God."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Admiral Galanus testifies under oath"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "that this is the only credible solution"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "to prevent an entire fleet collapse. But"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "one large problem keeps emerging over"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "and over again in both ship building and"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "in ship repair. A lack of skilled"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "people. Vice Admiral Galanis says to"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Congress, quote, \"Our recruitment rates"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "are lower than planned. Some of our"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "mechanics starting pay is just $14 to"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "$15 an hour, less than Starbucks and"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Amazon is paying in the area. Pay is"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "then bumped up to $30 or $40 an hour."}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "But retention is difficult to keep the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "aging workforce from leaving. And the"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "same problem faces the ship building"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "industry. There just aren't enough"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "highly skilled workers. Takes up to 8"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "years to gain full proficiency in many"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "trades. Can't learn to be a master"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "welder overnight. And the competition"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "they face is steep because working in"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "other industries is a lot more"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "appealing. A job at an oil company can"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "be less dangerous, less physical strain"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "and less government bureaucracy. Working"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "elsewhere doesn't require a security"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "clearance, and you don't have to be drug"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "tested all the time. Large warship"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "programs are also notorious for stop and"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "start production and cancellations,"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "which hurts job security. The result is"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "a structural shortage that throwing tons"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "of money at isn't going to fix. Ship"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "building is one thing you can't learn"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "from watching a few YouTube videos on."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "There are federal grants and tax"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "incentives for ship upgrades, but"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "ultimately the Navy estimates that it's"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "going to take 10 years for the new"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "training pipeline to fix this challenge."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "So, in 2023, to offset, there's a push"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "for robotics. At Puget Sound Naval"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "Shipyard, the automated rudder cuts"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "repair times in half. Clankers to do our"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "fighting and clankers to do our"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "building. So, can the US Navy rebuild"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "its fleet in time? Current estimates"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "state that they will reach 346 ships by"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "2042. The fleet will first shrink over"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "the next 5 years though before beginning"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "to grow. Admiral Gild Day had this to"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "say about it. Quote, \"We don't have the"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "capacity in the industrial base to pump"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "out that number of ships in a short"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "period of time. It's going to take a"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "couple of decades to really deliver to"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "mature the fleet in a manner where you"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "get that composition that you're looking"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "for. Over time, that gives you the kind"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "of power that you need to fight in the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "distributed way. The SOIP maintenance"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "overhaul is about 15% complete as of"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "2025 and is on track to finish in the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "late 2030s. On-time ship repair rates"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "have been improving over the last 2"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "years. But at the end of the day, you"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "never go to war with the military you"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "want. You go to war with the military"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "you have. and you hope that your navy is"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "the least worst one out there. I'm your"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "average infantryman, Chris Cappy. If you"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "like this video, I think you'll like"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "this one about aircraft carrier"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "survivability. How many hits could it"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "survive before it was sunk? I think I"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "could have done a better job on that"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "episode, but it's really an interesting"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "thought experiment and a good uh"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "conversation starting point. So, thank"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "you for watching Spare Parts Army."}]

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As a child"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "of divorce, I'm over here just wanting"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "everyone to get along. However, NATO's"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "own estimates place their surge capacity"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "much lower than 800,000, much closer to"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "200,000 even if US troops were to join"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "in the reinforcements. So, why create a"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "contingency plan around that number of"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "800,000? Because, as we'll see, it's a"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "reference to an old Cold War era plan"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "called Reforger that attempted to do"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "something similar and scale up to"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "800,000 troops. But this new version has"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "a much less catchy name. OP plan DU or"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "operational plan Germany. It's a little"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "different than Reforger. Plan details"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "how if war broke out with Russia, NATO"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "has just 6 months to move the force the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "size of a small country across the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "continent. That would mean United States"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "units, German armor, French and Polish"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "mechanized divisions, all rushing east"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "through a handful of narrow choke points"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "and land corridors that planners"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "consider the alliance's lifeline in a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "crisis. But buried in the plan deep are"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "five major vulnerabilities, including"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "choke points, infrastructure gaps, and"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "readiness problems that need to be"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "addressed. If you're a NATO logistics"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "planner, the first thing you're worried"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "about is protecting your data. And this"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "video sponsor, Delete Me, takes care of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "all of that. 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If you"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "want to stop scam callers forever, just"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "go to joindeleteme.com/cappy"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "army and use my promo code cappy for 20%"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "off or click my link in the description"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "to the pin comment below. Back to the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "episode. But if this plan is so top"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "secret, how does some random defense"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "tuber in New Jersey know about it?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Because the existence of the plan isn't"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "what's secret. It actually has its own"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "public page on the German army's"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "website. The NATO alliance wants some"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "parts of op plan deeu this classified"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "plan to be known to the public and their"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "adversaries as a deterrent. So they"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "purposefully leak some breadcrumbs of"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "details for us to piece together. But"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "opu isn't some brand new idea pulled out"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "of some second lieutenant's. It's the"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "modern descendant of a cold war era plan"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "called operation reforger which stands"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "for return of forces to Germany. It was"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "this full-scale demonstration attempting"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "to prove the United States could really"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "surge massive combat reinforcements into"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Western Europe fast enough to stop a"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Soviet offensive, which at the time was"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "about 1.5 million soldiers worth. Opu"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "keeps the spirit of Reforger, but"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "updates it for a battlefield that's far"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "more dangerous today. Instead of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "worrying about Soviet tank armies and"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "massed artillery, planners now have to"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "factor in precision missiles, swarms of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "attack drones, and cyber attacks. Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Wow. War has gotten pretty gay. And not"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "in the good way, where two guys are"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "smooching on the lips. And the geography"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "has changed completely since the last"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "battle lines in the early 1990s. The old"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Iron Curtain Front ran roughly 400 m"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "from the Baltic Sea through Germany to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the Alps. Today's defensive lines"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "stretch over 2,000 miles from Finland"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "through the Baltics and Poland all the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "way down to Romania. So many places to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "possibly attack or not attack. But what"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "all that means is NATO supply lines now"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "have to reach more than 750 mi from"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Germany to Estonia. This is an order of"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "magnitude more distance than resupply"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "needed to go in the Cold War era. The"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "sequel always has to be bigger and"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "better. But while Operation Reforger is"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "about reinforcing just this narrow"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "gateway, this 400mile folded gap here,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "OpE on the other hand is about"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "reinforcing a region the size of a"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "continent. A logistician's worst"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "nightmare or fantasy if they're into"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "that kind of thing. The roots of the"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "entire NATO plan are from the 1961"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Berlin crisis. Overnight, East German"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "troops sealed the border between East"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "and West Berlin and began constructing a"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "wall. To the west, it looked like the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Soviets were testing whether they could"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "choke off access to the city entirely."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "So, President Kennedy responded by"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "sending a fully armed US Army battle"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "group down the highway into Berlin. As"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "he put it, the deployment was quote, \"To"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "prevent a war, not to fight one.\" Ah."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Ah. Sound familiar? History rhymes or"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "some But the crisis exposed a"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "terrifying reality. If war actually did"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "break out, the United States couldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "get troops, let alone tanks and heavy"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "equipment, into Europe fast enough to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "make a real difference. Meanwhile, the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Soviet Union already had 1.4 million"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "soldiers and thousands of armored"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "vehicles positioned just minutes away"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "from the front line. NATO's forward"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "defenses were outmatched and everyone"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "knew it at the time. It was a"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "littleknown general named Bruce C. Clark"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "that was instrumental here. He was the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "hard charging commander chief of US Army"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Europe who quietly sketched out the idea"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "that would become the backbone of NATO's"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "entire reinforcement strategy all the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "way to op plan deeu today."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Welcome to the United States Army in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Europe for 40 years. This man has been"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "my vocation and advocation."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Clark came out of World War II with a"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "reputation as a brutally efficient"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "logistics obsessed armored commander. He"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "was a lethal man in the tank and a"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "tactician in the sheets. Clark's"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "solution to the Berlin crisis was"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "something radical for the error called"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "pomus which was short for prepositioning"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "of material configured in unit sets."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "Clark and army planners proposed parking"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "thousands of US tanks, vehicles and"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "artillery pieces in Europe ahead of"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "time. And that's what POMUS was. It"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "would be fully maintained, fully fueled"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "and ready to rock and roll the moment"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "American troops arrived by air. At the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "time, many logisticians hated the idea,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "though. It wasn't obvious that the plan"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "would work. There were a ton of red tape"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "and problems to solve for including"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "where they would be based, how the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "system would work. And for all they"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "knew, the tanks were going to get stolen"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "and joy ridden across the autobond. It"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "meant leaving billions of dollars worth"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "of heavy armored equipment in Europe"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "separated from the soldiers who would"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "actually use it. It broke from the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "time-tested army's sacred tradition of"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "units owning their own gear and naming"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "them after girls they swear they hooked"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "up with once. Clark launched PMCUS in"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "1962 and the storage sites were"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "strategically located far enough west of"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "the Rine that they wouldn't be overrun"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "within the first 14 days of a conflict"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "with the Warsaw Pact. In 1965 when the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "US Army started pouring troops into"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Vietnam, President Johnson announced he"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "was pulling two divisions out of Europe."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "This reduced the number of US troops"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "from 500,000 down to 300,000 on the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "continent. Johnson ordered the expansion"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "of PMPUS to 18 storage sites across four"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "different countries that housed more"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "than three divisions worth of armor"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "forward deployed. It was a kind of have"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "your cake in Vietnam and eat it in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Europe 2 sort of situation. In 1969,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "NATO launched Operation Reforger to test"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "this concept of these ghost battalions"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "to see if they could actually work. At"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "its height, over 125,000 US troops were"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "flown into Europe, and they signed out"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "their tanks and trucks from warehouses"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "using barcodes. Today in Lion Hart, some"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "160 M1 Abrams tanks drawn from"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "pre-positioned stocks here in Europe are"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "pushing westward on the southern front"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "of the battle area. It's the military"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "equivalent of having your name ready at"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the wedding table so you can just sit"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "down and have steak. This was the"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "backbone of NATO deterrence against the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Warsaw Pact for over two decades. It was"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "seen as a monumental logistic success,"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "being able to surge six full divisions,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "ultimately a million soldiers. Many"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "troops who participated in these plans"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "felt that they had done their part to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "help win the Cold War and to do it"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "without even having to fire a single"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "shot in anger. But after the disillusion"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "of the Soviet Union, these plans were"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "unwound. By 1993, Exercise Reforger was"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "cancelled. There was peace in our time"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "and we all got along and we lived"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "happily ever after and history was over"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "and no one ever complained ever again."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Except that didn't happen. The security"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "picture got worse. It got way, way"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "worse. Today the United States has far"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "less troops stationed in Europe between"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "70 to 100,000. European countries armies"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "have been reduced in many cases by more"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "than 50% from their Cold War standing."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "US military planners are once again"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "considering reducing troop numbers in"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Europe to focus elsewhere. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "operation reforger is being resurrected"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "today as opan deu with roughly the same"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "goal of surging a similar amount of"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "forces. It revolves around nine"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "designated land corridors that are"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "pre-planned military highways and rail"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "routes that run to the eastern frontline"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "nations. While Reforger was primarily an"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "American-led effort, this one will be"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "led by Europe. 10 of Germany's"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "high-ranking officers were put in charge"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "of writing this plan up 2 and a half"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "years ago in 2023. The draft was"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "reportedly created shortly after"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "when they determined that they needed to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "return to this cold war footing. In"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "2024, the plan began to be implemented"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "on the ground by soldiers. Nil Schmid,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Germany's deputy defense minister, said"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "that they had to consult with troops"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "from Reforger, saying, quote, \"We must"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "relearn what was unlearned. We have to"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "drag people back from retirement to tell"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "us how we did it back then.\" I'm getting"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "too old for this. A 7-page unclassified"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "version of oplan deu is available from"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the German army online. The German"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "officers outlined how Germany now sees"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "its role in the alliance as a transit"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "hub where they're responsible for"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "protecting, running traffic management,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "transporting by road, rail, and sea. OP"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "plan DEU accounts for where troops will"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "sleep, eat, and refuel, where they"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "conduct maintenance, and get medical"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "care. Much like Reforger, this new plan"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "maps out all the ports and roads that"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "need to be traveled. But a lot has"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "changed since the Reforger days. One of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "the critical vulnerabilities is the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "possible shortage of labor supply"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "because 70% of the truck drivers in"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Germany are foreignb born non-nationals"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "who may leave. There's the possibility"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "of sabotage along unmonitored rail"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "lines. Anywhere in Europe during a"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "conflict could could be a target for an"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "adversary. Our job is to make sure that"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "nowhere in Europe is a target for any"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "adversary. And the other challenge is"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "bureaucracy because a number of"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "peacetime laws restrict military convoys"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "and where you can have drone defense"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "because it wouldn't be an OP plan"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "without tons of unnecessary red tape and"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "bureaucracy to cut through. We've got"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "invented long range heatseeking"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "missiles, but nothing can destroy a TPS"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "report. Opan DEEO has to account for the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "fact that there's only one major highway"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "that runs from Poland into the Baltic"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "states. Only one of the Baltic countries"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "is directly connected to the rest of"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "NATO, which is Lithuania. Estonia and"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Lafia are cut off with their backs to"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "the sea. And during the Cold War, NATO"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "only had one country to coordinate"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "through on the front, which was West"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Germany. The Soviets also only had two"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "countries along the front. Reinforcing"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "and supplying today's dividing line is"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "much more difficult for armies on either"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "side because the locations for possible"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "conflict are far more numerous. It means"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "sustaining a credible deterrent, a giant"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "standing army for either side of this"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "dividing line is far more expensive."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Much like reforger over 50 years"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "earlier, the goal of the new plan is"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "being stated as being able to prove NATO"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "can credibly reinforce the Baltic states"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "and Eastern Europe in the event of"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "conflict with Russia. But can they?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "are reviving an old iron rine World War"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "II era rail line to help the flow of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "weapons. The project is emblematic, I"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "think, of the challenges facing OP Plan"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "DU, though, because it's been stalled by"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "disputes over issues such as"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "environmental concerns. Saving the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "whales may have to wait until after the"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "war. But there are stronger aspects to"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "the plan. Those old PMA storage sites"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "from the Reforger era, they still exist,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "but they've been renamed Army"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Preposition Stocks or APS. General Bruce"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "C. Clark's legacy lives on. These sites"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "have now been expanded and run from the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "Netherlands to Germany to as far east as"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Poland. 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It"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "demands constant contractor and solder"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "maintenance so that it can be a fight"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "toight status. However, you don't need"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "to be an Osenate guru to know that"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "today's APS sites are easy to identify"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "on Google Maps and are now quick"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "targets, prime targets for missiles. 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Stopping at bies isn't an"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "option. The defense company Rhymel was"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "ordered to find a solution to this. So"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "they created the capability for small"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "overnight field camps. Rhymatl has"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "developed the same technology that"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Burning Man has had for years, but with"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "far less ecstasy. These small"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "distributed bases house 500 soldiers,"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "about half a battalion, with showers,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "gas stations, a field kitchen, and they"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "even have drone surveillance overhead."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "The camps come with armed guards that"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "have been screened, according to this"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "report, to make sure that they don't"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "have any connections to Russia or China."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Listen, it's not racist to want my"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "guards to not have connections to the"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "MSS in China, right? This suggests"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "something interesting, though. NATO is"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "planning to use civilian contractors and"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "private security for some of these"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "functions. Took 2 weeks to set the field"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "camp up and a week to tear it down. This"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "makes logistics in route smaller targets"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "compared to the large headquarters with"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "thousands of troops that have been"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "planned in the past. This is part of an"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "over $250 million deal for Rhymel to"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "resupply NATO along this route. A"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "representative from Ryatoll's logistics"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "business said to the Wall Street"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Journal, quote, \"Picture building a"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "small town from nothing and dismantling"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "it in just a few days.\" End quote."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Sounds like you wouldn't be living in"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "luxury. It's like the Command and"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Conquer barracks that you'd be spawning"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "out of. But here's where it gets spooky,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "you guys. We just started seeing reports"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "in August 2025 from local investigative"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "media outlets in Germany that reported"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "that highranking German officials from"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "the military have been making visits to"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "local mayors and district administrators"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "and smaller cities. Basically saying,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "\"Not trying to alarm you guys, but World"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "War II might be coming and we need you"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "to plan on how you guys are going to"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "cooperate with us as civilians with the"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "military.\" During the Cold War, NATO"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "accused the Warsaw Pact of preparing for"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "an attack and the Warsaw Pact accused"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "NATO of escalation themselves. Some"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "things never change. The same is true"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "today. German officials believe that"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Moscow will be ready to conduct an"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "attack on NATO by 2029 or sooner. They"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "point to a series of dozens of arson and"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "sabotage attacks conducted on the ground"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "in Europe and an increasing number of"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "airspace violations by Russian attack"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "drones and fighter aircraft that have"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "changed their calculations. Planners in"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "Europe state that they believe once a"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "ceasefire is reached in Ukraine, it"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "could free up Russian resources to"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "conduct increased sabotage attacks in"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "the Baltics. The Russian foreign"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "minister, on the other hand, denies they"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "had any hand in these incidents, saying"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "who me couldn't be. One of the earliest"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "authors of the plan, who is a senior"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "military officer in Germany, spoke to"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "the Wall Street Journal and he said,"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "quote, \"The goal is to prevent war by"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "making it clear to our enemies that if"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "they attack us, they won't be"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "successful.\" Is that deterrence"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "established yet? During a test run of op"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "plan DEU, they learned a number of"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "challenges. Heavy armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "couldn't handle some of the parking"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "locations. Choke points were a major"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "problem. The rail line over the Hunt"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "River is actually the only port in"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Northern Europe that is licensed to"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "handle munition shipments to Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "So, an accident there in 2024 totally"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "stopped weapon supplies for weeks. It"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "took 2 months to build a temporary new"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "bridge. Then, big oof. The construction"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "of the A44 highway in Germany was built"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "with dual military purpose in mind. Many"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "sections are built as emergency landing"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "strips for gigantic C130 cargo aircraft"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "to land as a kind of makeshift runway."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Fuel tanks are actually buried deep"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "under these parking areas. All it takes"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "is a quick snap of the guard rails and"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "mobile air traffic towers can be set up"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "in minutes. But the newer routes as you"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "go further east in Germany and Poland"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "aren't built with war in mind. The"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "tunnels and bridges are too narrow or"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "can't support the weight of tanks or"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "convoys. Nothing is more embarrassing in"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "the military than collapsing a bridge"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "with your tank. It's a huge party foul."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "This is part of the reason why Germany"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "is investing over $170 billion on"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "infrastructure by 2029 to improve these"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "dual use infrastructure. And one part of"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "opu"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "is not being released publicly is the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "location of where these choke points"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "actually are. According to the Wall"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "Street Journal, oplane deu is kept on"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "the military's airgapped red network,"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "quote unquote. Air gap is a lot like a"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "thigh gap, means it has no connection to"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "the other side, so internet hackers"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "would have more difficulty stealing the"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "sensitive parts of the plan. But it gets"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "spookier. Along this route, German army"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "officials have been making visits in"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "person, briefing hospital staff to"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "prepare for a major influx of war"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "casualties. I noticed these reports"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "started surfacing in September in France"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "when a leaked government letter from the"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "health ministry told hospitals to"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "prepare for a major military engagement"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "by March 2026. The letter warned that"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "they needed infrastructure to"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "accommodate between 10,000 to 50,000"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "wounded soldiers that were expected to"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "be treated there over a period of just 6"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "months. OP plan DEU is focused on a"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "concept that's called whole of society."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "You hear this term all the time all over"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "the place, but what does it actually"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "mean? It's a concept forgotten about"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "since World War II. It's the idea that"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "civilian companies, hospitals, private"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "individuals, organizations outside the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "military need to have a plan to help"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "serve the country's military. It's the"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "combination of civil assets into"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "military planning. Defense capabilities"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "are now integrated with private industry"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "and logistics firms into a unified"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "wartime structure. It's great for"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "defense company stocks. The civil"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "sectors like police and disaster relief"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "agencies are now being looped into this"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "opland deu because they have to account"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "for the flow of people and prisoners and"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "refugees. There's going to be thousands"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "of civilians who are fleeing the war"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "with their refugee flow plan. Today,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Redtorm Bravo is the exercise that's"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "much like the old predecessor reforger."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "It's a modern-day dress rehearsal"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "testing the cooperation between civilian"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "and military to move enormous amounts of"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "troops and equipment east across"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "multiple countries that are not under"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "one authority. It's the military"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "equivalent of hurting cats, armed cats."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "The legacy of operation reforger reveals"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "what opan Germany is going for."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "declassified top secret CIA documents"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "from the time and interviews later with"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "former Soviet officers revealed that"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "they were closely monitoring Operation"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "Reforger in the Cold War and they"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "believed that it was a major threat. So"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "in some ways it did its job. The"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "experiment would end up becoming the"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "foundation of modern US power"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "projection. Variations of POMCUS now"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "exist everywhere that the United States"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "expects to possibly fight from the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "Persian Gulf to the Pacific. Op plan DU"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "is NATO trying to relearn a simple"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "lesson from the Cold War. Deterrence"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "only works if you can prove you can"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "credibly move faster than the crisis. If"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "you like this episode, if you found it"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "valuable, I think you'll love this one"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "about geopolitics or this one about the"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "US Army's NGSWXM7."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "How could it destroy a Russian BTR"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "armored vehicle? Could it punch through"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "one? I'm your average infanterman, Chris"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Cappy. Thank you guys for watching."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Ending transmission."}]

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If you want prolevel quality for"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "a fraction of the price, go to"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "dronecloneexperts.com."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "They're running a massive holiday sale"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "right now, enter code spotter at"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "checkout to get 40% off your drone."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Just click the link in the description"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "or the pinned comment below to get your"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Limitless 5 drone today."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "But the real question is, can it"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "actually destroy the enemy if they're"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "wearing armor or if they're behind"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "armor? There were a number of people who"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "had reached out to me and were concerned"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "basically about the performance of the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "weapon. Issues with not being able to"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "penetrate steel."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "So, you know, when you really think"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "about like target steel, right, target"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "steel and armor steel is AR500, AR,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "AR-550, right? So, it's relatively"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "resistant to small arms fire, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "you know, the type of steel does matter,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "but the things that really matter the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "most from a capabilities perspective are"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "the materials that you're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "encounter on the battlefield, right? So"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "if you look at you know lightly armored"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "vehicles 1/4 in or 38 in you know so"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "what 8 to 10 mm of light armor right"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "that's those are kind of the armor"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "ranges that you see on our vehicles and"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "you see on on on the enemy's vehicles"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "right like lightly armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "right when you look at the high pressure"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "ammo with a similar type of projectile"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "you're going to notice that at 150 m the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "68 this is our projectile like I said we"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "can't talk about the Army GP but this is"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "a similar type of projectile to an A1"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "it's a steel tipped two-piece copper"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "copper solid uh projectile with a steel"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "tip. It'll penetrate this at 150 m."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Take that for what you will for whatever"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "SIGs perspective is worth to you. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "what the army is looking to be able to"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "knock through here is like your Russian"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "BTR series, the MTLB series or the MRAP"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "style vehicles and Humvees, external"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "steel skins and logistic trucks"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "basically, not BMPs or tanks. If you see"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "those, grab a freaking javelin or run as"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "fast as you can. But the possible"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "problem here is that if the enemy thinks"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "American smallarms rounds can go through"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "their vehicle steel armor, they may only"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "need to add some additional armor kits"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "to those vehicles in the future. I"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "learned that the armor-piercing ammo is"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "not achieved by dumping a bunch of more"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "powder into the cartridge to make it go"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "faster or something. It's actually made"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "by changing the shape and the material"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "of the actual bullet itself."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Until you get to your heavy weapon"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "systems, you know, your M2 or your"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "shoulder fired munitions that exist"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "within your platoon, you don't have"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "anything in the small arms realm that"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "can defeat that 8 to 10 mm/4 to 38 in of"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "steel on the battlefield. And so, like I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "think from a messaging perspective, one"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "thing that the army could benefit is is"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "really having an understanding what the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "capabilities are of the weapon system"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "itself and the ammo itself. Now, every"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "single rifleman has an ability to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "penetrate this at 150 plus meters and be"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "able to actually affect the battlefield"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "with say a lightly armored vehicle that"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "would encounter a blocking position."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Then you start to kind of understand,"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "hey, for an increase in a half a pound"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "of of weapon system and a decrease of,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "you know, 40 rounds, I have an ability"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "to affect the battlefield in a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "completely different way. But the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "problem here is if the the army's new"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "fighting doctrine anticipates soldiers"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "being more dispersed and having less"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "backup potentially and potentially less"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "air support to call in on enemy"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "vehicles. And so your average soldier"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "may be required to engage these kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "threats. These are doctrinal and"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "tactical questions that should be"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "debated here in the comments section."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "I'm curious what you guys think if you"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "like that trade-off. I fired off a bunch"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "of shots into a concrete barrier to see"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "how the weapon would perform. might give"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "us an idea of how it would perform"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "against some of the concrete buildings"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "that we've see around the world in"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Europe and the Middle East for instance."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "The rounds dug straight in about 6 or 7"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "in in blasted pieces apart and it felt"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "great doing it."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "And you know, all concrete is made"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "different. I'm not a concrete expert,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "but we have here concrete at 100 m. This"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "is the type of thing that excites me. Is"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "there something wrong with me? I should"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "call her. I was basically trying to dig"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "through to the other side. Not good for"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "your health if you're getting hit by"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "this. But here's the problem. Even if we"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "assume it has more firepower, you're"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "still carrying about 40 to 60 rounds"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "less in total for a standard load out."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "And in my last video analyzing trench"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "warfare combat footage, the first thing"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "that stuck out to me is how you could"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "easily burn through ammo quickly and how"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "volume of fire is important when you're"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "clearing out a trench."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "The first thing I noticed picking it up"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "is that it's definitely lighter than the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "old version. They shaved the whole pound"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "off by milling out some parts from the"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "receivers's metal and shortening the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "barrel down to 11 in 3 in shorter. And"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "they shortened the suppressor, so it's"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "about 7.3 lb unloaded, only a pound"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "heavier than the M4. By lightening up"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "that suppressor, they made the weapon"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "feel more balanced as well. I noticed"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "that when I was shooting it, it felt"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "less front heavy than before."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "A heat shield has also been added to the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "suppressor, so I'm less likely to do"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "something absolutely [ __ ] and burn"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "myself when getting out of a vehicle or"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "something. First, you got to take the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "seat belt off. You know, when people ask"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "that question, is, you know, is this"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "program going to be pulled? Is it going"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "to dead or never going to accept it?"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "It's full off and running and and"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "accepted. When you look at where the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "army is today, you're talking 43,000"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "rifles have been fielded."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "We'll take some shots at the body armor,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the ceramic plates, and see what that"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "does. I fired a couple of shots into"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "level four body armor plates as well,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "the type that you might expect a"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "non-escript adversarial nation somewhere"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "in the Pacific region to wear. These are"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "my same exact body armor plates that I"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "wore when I reported from Ukraine. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "they have some sentimental value for me."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "They're my lucky plates. They kept me"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "safe. But now it's time to sacrifice"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "them for science and for you guys."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "The NIJJ official limit for"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "survivability of blunt trauma with body"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "armor is about 44 mm or 1.7 in of back"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "deformation. I think the first shot with"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the RR ammo at about 25 m is survivable,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "but it would certainly crack some ribs."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "The second and third shots were a"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "baseball-siz back deformation that could"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "mean internal bleeding and potentially"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "KIA."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Get in there."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "The shape of the back deformation is"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "key. It's not about punching all the way"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "through. It's about creating a giant"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "pucker mark in the back of the armor."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Whatever chemicals I'm inhaling right"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "now, I I got definitely a whiff of"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "asbestous in there. But the type of ammo"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "is what really makes a difference here."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "The spicy so-called armor-piercing"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "version hasn't been released yet. I've"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "heard rumors online that the Army is"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "working on a prototype armor-piercing"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "round for the M7 rifle that we're not"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "fully read in on yet. This is the RR"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "ammo, the reduced range ammunition. This"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "is not the general purpose or"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "armor-piercing ammo that's not available"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "for us to shoot due to it being"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "sensitive OPSSE technology. The RRA is a"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "copper solid training round designed to"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "operate at the same pressure and"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "velocity, though. So, as a soldier, I"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "still have questions about whether the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "chunky 68 round is really necessary and"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "worth the added weight and the reduced"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "ammunition. These are things that are"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "going to need to be sused out. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "let's assume it can blast the enemy away"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "inside lightly armored vehicles and"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "behind body armor. Can it actually hit"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "the enemy when I aim at them, or am I"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "winging shots all over the place?"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Nothing's more embarrassing to do in"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "front of the enemy than miss the enemy."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "One I think I think you had mentioned"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "that one of the complaints with the"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "rifle was is that it doesn't have any"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "further capability than say an M4. you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "know, an M4 600 meters and and the rifle"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "specifically what the the soldier said"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "he was like if it has a fourminute of"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "angle accuracy, what is even the point?"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "You're not hitting targets at 800 m."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Then if that's the case,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "there there is there is some validity"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "towards the accuracy of the weapon"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "systems to the target at distance,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "right? But your probability of hit"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "increases if I have the ability to get"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "the bullet there. Does that make sense?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "One of the complaints that you do hear"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "from the field is you do hear from an"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "accuracy perspective. And so what you're"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "going to find with, you know, the 13-in"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "barrel gun and the GP ammo is you're"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "going to see that it's about a 3 and 1/2"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "minute um system between the ammo and"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "the gun. The soldier should expect 2 and"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "3/4 3 in at 100. So 3 minute of angle"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "gun. And with the GP, they should expect"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "3 and 1/4 to 3 and 3/4. So 3 and 1/2"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "minute of angle with the GP. I put that"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "theory to the test by firing two groups"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "at 100 meters with a new version of the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "M7."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "I shot five rounds within 9 and a half"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "centimeters. What's the MOA?"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Sure. Let's break it down."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Lo and behold, my first group was a 3.4"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "and the second was about a four, but I"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "wung one of the shots off a little bit."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "It was like a 3.5. I think"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "I was a little bit scared of the the the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "explosive power of the weapon."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "definitive like in a definition state of"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "you know point versus point target is"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "probably still going to be 600 m."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "However, capability from the weapon"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "system is you know this is a 6800 meter"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "gun compared to a 4 to 600 meter gun."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Um, if you put this thing with a with a"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "nice, you know, an accurate bullet, this"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "is a,200 meter. Like when you look at"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "the M250, you know, from a from a"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "machine gun perspective, it's a 1200"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "meter gun. This is a 1200 meter gun all"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "day long as well, you know, but, you"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "know, it all comes down to the"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "capability of the ammunition. Then I"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "tried pushing the shots out further to"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "300 m, then out to 500 m. I was pushing"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "it and I consistently hit 500 m, no"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "problem. And it felt satisfying as heck"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "to hear the steel get hit from that"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "distance. I almost called my dad and"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "asked him if he was proud of me yet. I"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "continued firing at the 650 m target and"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "consistently hit it with the help of my"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "rounds being guided in by a drone and a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "former career special forces soldier who"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "was also helping me get on target. This"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "was one of the first times I'd fired at"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "targets that far away with a"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "semi-automatic service rifle like this."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "You might be surprised to learn soldiers"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "like myself never train on those kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "ranges with M4s. Really, all it took was"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "a a bunch of people helping on me and I"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "could do it. And that's why I quickly"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "learned that shooting at that distance"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "is a lot a lot more complicated than"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "shooting at like 300 m away. And this is"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "really important to get into here. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "going somewhere. Trust me. Go on this"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "walk with me. What I learned in basic"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "training at the army barely scratches"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the surface of marksmanship. Future"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "soldiers will have to take a lot more"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "aspects of shooting fundamentals into"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "account. It's no longer enough to just"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "practice and master the like three"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "skills of breathing, trigger pull, and"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "steady aim. At that distance, you have"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "to start considering other things. We"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "now have to seriously take into account"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "how wind is moving bullets. Because at"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "that distance, a 10 mph crosswind at 90\u00b0"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "is pushing your round a foot to the"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "right or left. Soldiers will have to"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "learn methods for estimating wind, like"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "looking at tall grass, looking at flags"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "blowing, or holding up grass and"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "dropping it and sniffing the wind, that"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "kind of thing. If the leaves are"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "rustling the trees, that indicates, for"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "instance, it's like a 3 to 5 mph wind."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "If the branches are swaying, that's like"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "8 to 12. And if the trees are fully"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "rocking back and forth, that's 15 plus"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "mph that you're going to have to make"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "adjustments for. When I felt a gust of"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "wind on me, that didn't mean the same"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "wind was pushing near the target. So, I"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "had to study the movement of the trees"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "near the target to get a better sense."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Picture the flow of wind downrange, like"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "a flowing river, but it's invisible and"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "it's pushing your bullet as it flies."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Wind is read like a clock. So, you have"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "to know that if it's hitting your ear"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "from the 3 or 9:00, that equals a full"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "90\u00b0 crosswind. If it's hitting your nose"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "or back, that means that the wind has"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "zero impact on your bullet. I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "is complicated. So, I have serious"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "concerns about whether the army is going"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "to be able to train brand new privates"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "quick enough to master these skills."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "With the amount of range time currently"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "given to them, someone tried to explain"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "this to me, I would have gotten lost in"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the sauce. The army hopefully has a plan"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "for revamping training, though. Keep in"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "mind, the M157, the new optic, doesn't"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "automatically sense wind speed. It has a"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "wind hold, and it adds like 2 1/2 lb."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "So, there's a lot of people who are not"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "happy about this new optic, and I can"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "understand why. But I can only imagine"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "how difficult it'll be to teach soldiers"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "these new fundamentals. And I really"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "hope that the army has some kind of like"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "S tier engaging informative PowerPoint"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "that was written by Peron or something."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Ultimately, I was able to consistently"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "hit 650 m though. But what about beyond"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that range? Shooting at 800 m, I hit"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "once from 10 rounds. But again, this is"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "the reduced range ammunition. It's built"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "to destabilize at about 800 meters for"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "safety training purposes because the"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "army hasn't built many ranges that are"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "able to shoot that far, but it sounds"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "like the army is kind of aiming for the"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "sweet spot to be 650 m anyway. I had"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "more questions about the accuracy"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "though,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "right? What does that do for dispersion"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "on the gun? This 11in barrel is actually"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "slightly more accurate than the 13-in"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "barrel on the M7."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "You know, there's some freak things that"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "happen in in in in in kind of like"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "barrel harmonics and in in in accuracy"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "aspects."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "However, a 3in shorter barrel means less"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "velocity, which means less range and"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "less penetration. But there is a"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "possible solution to this issue. And if"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "I know you guys, and I think I do a"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "little bit, I know you're probably"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "definitely not going to like the answer."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "So, these guns operate at about 778"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "kpsi. The ammo and the gun. The ammo in"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "the gun were developed to go up to 125"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "kpsi. So, we can actually increase ammo"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "velocity by, you know, adding more"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "powder, powder formulations, technology"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "to get the gun running faster with a"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "shorter barrel and still achieve this"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "type of thing."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "What are some of the downsides that you"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "run into when you've increased pressure?"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "Yeah, I think you're going to"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "One question I have real quick is does"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "that increase the recoil?"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "That would be the first one."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "that would be the first one. And then"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "the second one would be reliabil or"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "durability of parts. So if I increase"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "the pressure and I increase the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "velocity, I'm going to increase the bolt"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "velocity as well. Right? So as that"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "round is recoiled harder, the round goes"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "faster. All right. Now my bolts coming"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "back harder and faster. And you know I"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "could affect I could eventually affect"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "the parts. All of that can be overcome"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "with materials and coatings and you know"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "design as well. you know, if the army's"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "not doing this, but if if you did go"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "from, you know, a 77 78 kpsi rifle to an"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "81 kpsi rifle, you're not asking for a"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "gigantic leap to 95 kpsi to make up that"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "100 ft per second that you're getting"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "lost with that shorter barrel. The"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "solution to regain velocity with a"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "shorter barrel is to gas that baby up"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "even higher. Gas, gas, gas. Every gun"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "nerd with a touch of the tizz and a bit"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "of the RZ. Every ballistic engineer and"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "armorer just raised an eyebrow when they"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "heard that the army is saying 80,000"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "plus PSI, the hybrid steel ammo fired"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "from an 11in barrel. Why are they saying"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "that and thinking that? They're worried"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "about the physics, metallurgy, blast"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "pressure, and long-term durability of"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "the system. This is extreme high"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "pressure for small arms at that range."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "So everything gets stressed from the"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "bolt lugs to the extraction timing and"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "gas system parts. And I saw this across"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "a number of people who had reached out"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "to me or had uh wrote online about it."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "There was concerns about how gassed up"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "the weapon is. It was a big complaint"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "that I just saw that people were saying"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "it's way overgassed. One of the things"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "that we heard was that some of like the"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "shell casings explode apart."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "It's not an issue that I've seen. I"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "don't want to discount what someone else"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "has seen, right? I I don't think that's"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "fair. Um, we haven't seen anything with"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "a shellcase issue since probably 2018."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "Summer of 2018 is when we solved that"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "problem. Um, and we haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "anything from that uh since then. I"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "don't think that's a problem, but you"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "know, um, we haven't heard anything from"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "the army saying that that's a problem."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "um you know so if there's an issue here"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "or an issue there it isn't endemic"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "enough to make it to the army for them"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "to identify it with us either."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "According to SIG, this issue with the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "cartridge was solved within 3 months of"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "the development of the prototype. They"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "state this hasn't been an issue in over"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "7 years now."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "One of the other things that was um"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "brought up was issues with reliability."}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "There's a lot of things that happen with"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "reliability, right? Weapons conditions,"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "lubrication, care, you know, all those"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "things on the soldierly level that are"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "going to affect reliability, right? The"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "only thing I can comment at least from a"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "reliability perspective with the M7 is"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "the M7 as tested by the Army from a"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "reliability standpoint is has an mean"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "round between stoppages well above"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "12,000 rounds. The truth is the M7 A1"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "has real tradeoffs, but it also delivers"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "real capabilities. Testf firing the"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "improved carbine M7A1 with the shorter"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "barrel was a much better experience. As"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "a soldier, of course, you want that"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "carbine version. It took us about 20"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "years of using the M16 to the M4 to"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "realize that. So, this new weapon has"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "gotten the nickname the M7 A1 online. I"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "don't think it's officially named that,"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "but it's a reference to the series of"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "improvements made to the M16 and M4, the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "A1 through the A4 series. And it's a"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "good way of thinking about it. I think"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "firing it on full send mode. Admittedly,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "it it rocked me a little bit when trying"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "to dump a full 20 round mag, but in the"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "3 to five round bursts, I could stay on"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "target. Especially if you watch me do it"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "in slow motion, then it seems less like"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "I'm getting bent over the table by the"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "gun. Listen, I'll be the first guy to"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "admit I'm not an elite cool guy tactical"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "trainer. I think you could tell by my"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "timuish.com"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "type ammo mags for the 5.56. So, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "you'll see me reloading from my cargo"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "pockets. Do I look eight up?"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Yeah, but I'm doing my best. And if you"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "guys had told me as a lower enlisted E4"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "I'd get the opportunity to test fire new"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "army weapons, I would have never"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "believed you. And I'll take that"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "opportunity any chance I get. It hits"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "harder, reaches further, and punches"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "through barriers and light armor in ways"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "that I think matter on the modern"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "battlefield. It's like my old squad"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "leader used to always say, \"We're lucky"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "the insurgents have 2003 Toyota Camry"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "and not 2010 Humveys.\" Um, but as far as"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "like the weapon systems, as far as"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "complaints, you know, I think that any"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "system um should expect to be improved."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "I think the American people, the"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "soldiers, and, you know, ourselves"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "should expect that we're going to"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "receive feedback from the military. They"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "have an expectation of the gun"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "improving, and we have an expectation of"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "improving the gun for them. At the same"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "time, concerns about pressure,"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "durability, recoil, and long-term"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "reliability. I don't think those are"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "just internet myths. They're legitimate"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "questions that the Army and Sig will"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "have to answer going forward into the"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "future on this program. After shooting"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "the weapon at different stages over the"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "past 5 years, I've like grown up with"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "this weapon system. I've seen this"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "program change shape a few times now,"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "and my life has changed shape as this"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "program has developed. and seeing both"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "the strengths and the shortcomings, uh,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "getting up close with the M4 and the M7,"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "what I know is I want to see the best"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "primary weapon system possible fielded"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "to soldiers because the stakes are"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "really high and we owe it to the next"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "generation of troops to field the best"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "possible weapon system. So, if you like"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "this video, you can check out these"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "other videos that I've done on firearms"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "here, like this one on special forces"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "new machine gun program to replace the"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "Mark 48, the LMGA. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "infantryman, Chris Cappy. Hit the like"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "and subscribe button. And remember, if"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "you're looking to grab a holiday gift"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "for your dad or someone that you love,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "check out the Limitless 5 drone. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:01", "text": "Today, we're going to analyze the most"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "insane trench clearing combat footage"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "I've ever seen. I"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "need to get in the trench, boys."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "We've created 2D map animations and 3D"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "recreations to better illustrate the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "type of tactics used."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "He's right there. He's right in there."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "This battle is a by the book example of"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "assaulting a fixed position. It reminds"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "me a lot of the Band of Brothers Easy"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Company's assault at Brie Court Manor."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "I'm your average infanterman, Chris"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Cappy. Let's begin. This assault on a"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "fortified trench actually began weeks"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "prior to the real combat. It was"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "executed by Chosen Company from the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "International Legioners. They're made up"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "of American, British, and Australian"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "volunteers. First, they conducted route"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "reconnaissance with drones and on foot."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "They did this to accurately assess what"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "pathways were most safe for the Humvey"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "to traverse through and to identify what"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "type of enemy forces they're actually"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "facing. Their route was near the village"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "of Pervo Miski near Abdiva. Some of the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "routes in this direction have been"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "destroyed or obstructed by fallen down"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "trees and craters from all the artillery"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "fire. There were a ton of anti-tank"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "mines littering the path as well as they"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "discovered. So, the infantry needed to"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "sneak up on foot to see where the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Russian positions were located and get"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "eyes on their defenses. Chosen Company"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "posts videos from a lot of their"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "engagements on their YouTube channel,"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "The International Legioners. But"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "interviews from their actual squad"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "revealed that Recon Intelligence showed"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the Russian trench had two separate"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "positions. The forward one, which was an"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "L-shaped trench that they nicknamed"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "position 105, and then the rearward one,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "nicknamed shovel, was located 60 m away,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "shaped like a T. 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They"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "got the call from higher up that the"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "operation was a go."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Ready, boys."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "From the OP or objective rally point,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "they zigg through tree lines and they"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "zag through brushes. For an infantryman,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "ironically, this can be one of the worst"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "parts that often times no one talks"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "about. The tension, the nerves on route,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "heading there right before actually"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "hitting the objective, replaying your"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "whole life before your eyes."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "The five Humvees from Chosen Company and"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "a Ukrainian team drove for a few clicks"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "heading past the zero line, bypassing"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "the enemy trench completely. Since"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "they're carefully, meticulously plotted"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "out exactly how they would infiltrate to"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the objective. They traversed the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "direction that has the most cover and"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "concealment on the way to the trench"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "line cuz they knew they were going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "taking fire all the way in. The squad"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "leader called in support elements from"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "their engineer unit and they deployed"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the American provided Miklick. This"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "fires a rocket powered explosive line"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "charge and it landed across the"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "minefield and detonated clearing a path"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "that's about 150 m long and 8 m wide."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Certainly big enough for you to drive a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "convoy through. After the long explosive"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "rope detonated, they travel through the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "safe lane and initially the Humvees pass"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "through safely. The Humvees from Chosen"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Company leapfrogged the first Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "trench line, penetrating 600 meters deep"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "in order to hit the rear defensive"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "position 105 and shovel. By doing this,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Chosen created confusion for the enemy"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "because they were not expecting this"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "unconventional risky approach. As soon"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "as Chosen Company got within small arms"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "range, the Humvees acted as bullet"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "magnets, drawing fire from the enemy."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "RPGs and mortars start raining down on"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "them just barely missing one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Humvees."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "However, the Miklick explosive had"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "missed clearing one of the mines and one"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "of the Humvees detonated a landmine"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "right as they were getting on the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "objective. This sent dirt and dust"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "flying up everywhere and created"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "confusion. Miraculously, no one was"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "killed or even severely injured. The"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Humvey protected them. The Humvees got"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "to within 50 m of the trench line, which"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "is where they dropped them off at three"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "separate locations that they previously"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "planned for. This was part of the plan"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "to help cover the two squads as they"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "moved in to assault the trench. The"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "American, British, Australian volunteers"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "from Chosen Company poured out of the"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Humvees and began laying down"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "suppressive fire on the enemy trench."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Trenches are shaped in these kind of L,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "T, and Y shapes because straight"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "trenches get everyone inside killed if"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "you can get a shot down the whole lane."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "And shaping them this way prevents"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "grenades from blowing the whole trench"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "up. It creates interlocking fields of"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "fire, as we'll see, that can shoot left"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "and right for both trenches without"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "exposing themselves to incoming fire as"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "much. The two assault teams from Chosen"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Company hit the shovel T-shaped trench."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "At the same time, the Ukrainian assault"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "team hits position 105 to the left. This"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "way, the Russian defenders at each"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "location would be less effective at"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "engaging the other team as the trenches"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "are designed to do. The enemy trenches"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "are set up to cover one another with"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "overlapping fields of fire, so it"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "requires coordination and teamwork on"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "both sides."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Chosen Company is going into tunnel"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "vision here. Psychologically, as an"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "infantryman, during a fight like this,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "your whole world collapses and you focus"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "on what's happening directly in front of"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "you. Troops have to fight this instinct"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "and stay aware of their surroundings."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "However, the Ukrainian element was"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "accidentally dropped off about 100 m too"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "short by the drivers. So, the timing was"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "off and those guys had to run up to"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "their objective on foot about 100 m"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "away. This is the fog of war at work."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "This meant all fire from both trenches"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "was directed at Chosen Company for the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "moment until those Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "reinforcements could arrive and engage"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "the other trench. You can even make out"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "an RPG fly right past this soldier's"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "head on his GoPro footage as they're"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "exiting the vehicles. At this point, the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "squad needs to push up because they're"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "in what's called the fatal funnel right"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "now and they know they need to start"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "making their way into the trench or they"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "only have a few seconds left before"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "they're screwed. The soldiers get out of"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the destroyed Humvey and continue"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "pushing on the trench. The remaining"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "working Humvees, having offloaded the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "dismounted infantry, start to evacuate"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "now. They can't stay on the objective"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "any longer or the vehicles are going to"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "get shredded and they'll have no way"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "out. They successfully exfiltrate out of"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the line of fire and the Humvees take"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "off. In order for the infantry to"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "successfully push up, move up on the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "trench, they start throwing frag"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "grenades at the entrance of the trench"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "and this enables them to move up to the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "furthest edges of the trench. Alpha team"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "pushes up on the Russian troops and"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "backs them up enough to clear what's"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "called a breaching entry point for the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "trench."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Weapon up. Weapon up."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "The sky boys look good."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Get down. Get down. Get down."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "They move into the trench on the left,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "which is like breaching a door, but 10"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "times more pucker factor. Alpha and"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Bravo team from Chosen both enter the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "trench from different sides. This is"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "what violence of action means. They move"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "with motivation. A lot of people think"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "suppression is about hitting the target."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "It's more importantly about making the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "enemy not want to raise their heads. It"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "might look like they're firing randomly"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "at the horizon, but each shot that they"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "fire keeps the opposing forces heads"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "down because what they're hearing are"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "ricochets and whizzes, even if bullets"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "are passing 5 m over ahead of them."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Here we see that there is a Russian"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "soldier right directly 2 m in front of"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "them. Right here at the entrance to"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Bravo team side on the right side of the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "trench. This is the make it or break it"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "moment. As they cross into the trench,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "they have to trust one another to cover"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the different lanes of the trench to the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "left and to the right. One of the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "soldiers from the foreign legion is hit"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "by spraying fire from 20 m away. He's"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "wounded at the entrance, but he's still"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "alive. Another one of the squad throws a"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "grenade down the trench, and the Russian"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "soldier tried to pick it up, tried to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "throw it back at them, but it exploded,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "killing him. Over at the other part of"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the trench, the other fire team, alpha"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "team, starts to make progress, breaking"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "through to the makeshift first bunker."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Two of the soldiers are positioned at"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "the little dugout when they spot an"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "enemy. They return fire 2 m in front of"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "them, dumping their entire mags at him,"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "but he ducks away and they're unsure if"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "they were able to get him. ready."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "They immediately push into the first"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "dugout there and fire shots left and"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "right to clear it out. They use this"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "fortification as a moment to catch their"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "breath and to reload"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "heavy."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Combat like this is basically like your"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "brain trying to run 20 tabs at the same"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "time. If there's a break that you can"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "catch, you have to do it. From there,"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "the squad pushes up through the trench"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "where it forks. Each dugout looks like a"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "dark black pit. It's impossible to tell"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "what's waiting in there."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "At the next bunker, they push to find a"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "dead Russian soldier. We now cut back to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "the GoPro of a different soldier, back"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "to the other part of the trench where"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Bravo team is now firming up, getting a"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "foothold in the trench, and they're"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "tending to their one wounded soldier. An"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "enemy FPV drone hits near them but"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "misses. It's the first such one that"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "they encountered."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "They start to creep further into the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "trench to the first bunker system where"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "two enemy Russians are spotted."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "This is a textbook example of the key"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "elements of assaulting an objective,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "which is speed, surprise, and violence"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "of action. As we'll see, the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "International Legion throws grenades at"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the bunker. They turn on their rifle"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "flashlights to see into those dark"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "bunkers as they advance. Then something"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "crazy happens. two Russians who are"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "confused because they hear the other"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "team shooting on the other side of the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "trench made them run into the trench"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "right next to the foreign legion"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "soldiers. Again, it reminds me of that"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Band of Brothers show where they start"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "shooting on their own positions cuz they"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "have no idea what's going on. That guy,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "that Russian soldier then realizes that"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "he's accidentally run into a nonfriendly"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "force and runs back to the other trench."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "They're yelling at him to surrender and"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "one of the Russian soldiers miraculously"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "makes it back to his trench. Another"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "instance of the fog of war at play."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "They got hit with two drones so far."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Who does D1?"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Is anyone alive?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "We don't know, man."}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "We need to push."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "Okay. The friendly drone providing recon"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "overhead at this point are able to start"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "walking the small arms fire onto the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "remaining pockets of Russian defenders."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "They're in direct communication through"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "radio to the operators. As we hear them,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "we can hear them call the positions out."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Say again."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Russians from"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "They exchange gunfire. It's a firefight"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "for a little while here. Then one of the"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "American Foreign Legion fighters tosses"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "a frag grenade into the enemy defender"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "position. It's a direct hit. At this"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "point, each team in the trench does not"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "have comms with one another between"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Alpha and Bravo. the comm system. There"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "was an error. They're unsure how the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "assault is going for either side. They"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "don't know if their other fire team is"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "even alive. They improvise and push"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "forward to meet each other at where"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "they're supposed to rendevu. But they"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "come up with a plan to account for all"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "of this beforehand. If comms were down,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "they knew that they would fly a certain"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "flag that signaled that they were there"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and they could push that flag around"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "corners to make sure that you knew that"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "there was a friendly on the other side."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "friendly on shallow"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "right here."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "In trench warfare, grenades on your best"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "friend. Every dark hole is screaming and"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "begging for one of them. So they fire"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "shots in and they frag at bunkers as"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "they push forward. They're able to"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "recover Russian radio systems, which is"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "useful for intelligence collection. They"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "recover grenades and other equipment as"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "well. The plan is to pull off what's"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "called a pinser maneuver here. What that"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "means is that Alpha Squad on the left"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "tries to move up as Bravo squad on the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "right aims to push them in together and"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "funnel the enemy into one location. Then"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "once they're there, they plan to throw"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "grenades onto the enemies until they"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "surrender or are eliminated. The two"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "teams almost have a friendly fire"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "incident with one another, but they're"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "able to communicate through"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "old-fashioned shouting so that they know"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "to stop firing."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Friendly."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Friendly."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "I don't want to hit friendlies. No,"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "because at this point, Alpha and Bravo,"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "the two fire teams are able to link up"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "with one another, and they know that"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "they've now cleared that whole trench."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "They search the fallen body of a Russian"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "PKM gunner. And as the International"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "Legion soldier searches him, he says, as"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "a cold, candid moment. Bad day at the"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "office, mate."}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Then a Canadian International"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "Legionnaire fighter and gets hit by an"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "enemy FPV drone strike. Holy"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "Jesus."}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "This whole battle happened earlier in"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "the war in between 2022 in 2023 when the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "skies weren't yet filled with drones"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "that might have prevented an assault"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "like this from even happening. But"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Canadians are tough as hell and he"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "survived just with his bell rung. At"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "this point, from interview footage with"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "the International Legion, they said that"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "the Russians started launching artillery"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "with poison gas rounds at them, but the"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "gas blew away from their position"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "because the wind was blowing away, which"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "kind of shows why poison gas never"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "became a huge frequently used weapon"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "after World War I. Having cleared both"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "trenches though, they exfiltrated from"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "there later on. They loaded back up on"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the Humvees and eventually left. No"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "killed in action in this whole trench"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "assault for the Ukrainian side and only"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "two or three soldiers wounded in the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "battle. Even though this battle was over"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "just a tiny piece of ground, fights like"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "this determine how far any front moves."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Since then, Russia has taken back the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "land here few meters at a time over the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "past 2 years. Since then, Chosen Company"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "continues to fight in Ukraine. Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "is of course on the back foot right now."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "This video is not meant to give the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "impression that they're winning the war."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "This is an analysis of some of the best"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "footage of trench warfare from drone"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "angle, from multiple GoPro angles on the"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "ground that I could find. It's a"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "textbook example of assaulting a fixed"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "position that I think should be taught"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "today in classrooms. Be sure to check"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "out their YouTube channel, The"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "International Legioners, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "support them. If you're interested in"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "seeing more uncensored combat rundowns"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "from Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "click the link in the description for"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Pepper Box. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "infantryman, Chris Cappy. Thank you for"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "watching ending transmission."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "to you by Factor."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Gather around because this happened."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "September 12th, 2008, the 4:22 p.m."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Metro Link left Union Station packed"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "with commuters."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Charles Peek stood in the aisle of the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "front car. He was 49 years old. He"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "texted his fianceé, Andrea, I'm almost"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "there. That was the last message he ever"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "sent."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Minutes later, the commuter train"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "slammed head-on into a Union Pacific"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "freight train. Both traveling over 40"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "mph. Combined impact speed 82 mph."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Charles Peek died instantly."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "12 hours later, his family sat in a"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "living room watching news footage of the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "wreckage. Then Andrea's phone lit up on"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "the table. The caller ID said Charles."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "breaking the rules. Put a sock on it,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "boy."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Let me guess."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Nah, I'm not coming in."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Of course you're not. The one day I need"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "you to help me record, you're not coming"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "in."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> I don't feel good, human. My tummy hurts"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "and I'm so bloated I keep surfacing in"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "my bowl. My buoyancy is over cocka. I"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "told you not to eat the gas station egg"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "salad."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> The egg salad was fine. It's this"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "ancient Egyptian diet. I'm going to get"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "rockhot abs like the guys who built the"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "pyramids."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> I thought the Anunnaki built the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "pyramids."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> Ah, they were management. The enslaved"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "humans did the actual work. Dragging"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "rocks around a desert while giant aliens"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "are screaming at you in Samrian. That"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "kind of pressure gets you pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "shredded."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> Shredded? You said you're bloated."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> That's my body adjusting to ancient"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "greens. It's activating my dormant"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "pyramid building DNA."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> There's no such thing as pyramid"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "building DNA."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> No, contr"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "on his diet and ancient knowledge is"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "flowing through my gills. Uh, yesterday"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "I had the sudden urge to align something"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "to Orion's belt."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> You rearranged the couch cushions"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> to Orion's belt. It's called precision,"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "human. Maybe educate yourself before you"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "mock the ancients."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> What do you even eat on an ancient"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Egyptian diet? Yeah, warm beer and bread"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "that tastes like disappointment. Uh, but"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "on cheat days, I can have a lentil."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> You're not going to get abs that way."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": ">> Oh, I'm sorry, mister. I've never built"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "a monument that's lasted 15,000 years."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Oh, please enlighten me with your modern"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "fitness wisdom."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Just use Factor. They have no plans to"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "suit any lifestyle."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": ">> Hold on. 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So I don't need to eat like I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "building a pyramid for alien overlords."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> Nope. You can have real food."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> Perfect. Uh hey, wait. Do you think the"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "Anunnaki allow meal delivery? Uh because"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Gertie just reminded me we're building"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "that guest pyramid in the backyard."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Wait, you're building what in my"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "backyard?"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> I got to go. Uh, my ancient grains are"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "calling. And by calling, I mean I need"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "to find a bathroom immediately."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Yeah. Now, too late, human."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "We have a code. Brown."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "We think of telephones as everyday"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "things, plastic and glass, good for"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "ordering pizza or doom scrolling through"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "social media. But since their invention,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "people suspected they could serve"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "another purpose. Nicola Tesla built a"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "radio to reach the spirit world. Thomas"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Edison believed he could do the same. He"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "called it a spirit phone, a device to"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "bridge this world and the next. In 1920,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Edison told Scientific American he'd"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "been working on an apparatus to see if"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "it is possible for personalities which"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "have left this earth to communicate with"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "us. He died in 1931 without completing"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "it, or so his assistants claimed. But"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "these calls do happen."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "In 1979, scientists published the first"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "comprehensive study of phone calls from"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the dead. They documented over 100"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "cases. 72% occurred within 24 hours of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "death. 89% featured heavy static or poor"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "connection quality. 94% described voices"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "as distant, mechanical, or hollow."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Average call duration 6 to 15 seconds."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "The pattern was clear. The calls were"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "real. But were they messages from beyond"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "or something else?"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Sometimes the dead call to say goodbye."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Sometimes they call with a warning. Dean"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Coun is famous for writing horror"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "novels, but his most terrifying story is"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "when he lived. Kun was in his home on a"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Tuesday afternoon in 1988, working alone"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "in a quiet house. The phone rang, an"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "unlisted number. 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His mother reached across"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "whatever separates the living from the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "dead to save her son's life. But Charles"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Peek wasn't calling to warn anyone. He"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "wasn't calling to say goodbye. He was"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "leading them somewhere."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "The Chadzsworth crash was the deadliest"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "train accident in California history. I"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "lived in LA at the time. I remember it."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "The impact fused the trains together"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "into a single mass of twisted steel and"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "fires burned for hours. Thick black"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "smoke was visible for 20 m. 2,500"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "gallons of diesel fuel leaked from"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "ruptured tanks. The smell of burning"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "plastic and diesel reached Northridge 6"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "mi away. Andrea was at the station"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "waiting for Charles when the news broke."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "She drove to the crash site, but police"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "held her back. She joined his parents,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "his brother, his sister, and his"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "stepmother in a waiting area. They sat"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "in that room for hours, terrified,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "waiting for the survivor list. Then they"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "were waiting for the list of the dead."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "And then in the middle of that silence,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Andrea's phone rang. She looked at the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "screen. Charles. The room went still."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "She grabbed the phone with shaking hands"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "and pressed answer."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Charles, baby, are you there? She"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "expected a voice, a cry for help."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Anything. She got static. that low"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "rhythmic hum like wind blowing through a"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "long tunnel or someone trying to breathe"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "through damaged lungs. The call lasted"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "six seconds and it dropped. The family"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "stared at each other. Pocket dial"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "glitch. Well, 5 minutes later it"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "happened again. This time his son's"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "phone rang. Caller ID: Dad. He answered,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "\"Dad, where are you?\" Static. Heavy"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "hollow silence. Then the line went dead."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Then his brother's phone rang. Then his"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "stepmother's. For the next 11 hours, his"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "phone launched a desperate campaign. It"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "called everyone he loved. His fianceé,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "his parents, his siblings, his children."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "35 separate calls. 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He was telling them"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "he was still there. The family ran to"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "the police station and shoved their"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "phones in the officer's faces. He's"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "calling us. Look, he's calling right"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "now. This changed the entire operation."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Before the calls, firefighters worked in"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "recovery mode. They assumed everyone in"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "the front car was dead. They moved"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "carefully, treating the wreckage as a"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "crime scene. But if a survivor was"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "calling out, this was now a rescue"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "mission."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "The fire chief sent 250 firefighters to"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the site. 50 paramedics stood by. They"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "brought cutting equipment, jacks,"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "cranes. Over 100 tons of steel had to be"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "moved piece by piece without causing"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "further collapse. Police contacted"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Verizon and traced the signal. Every"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "call came from PC's phone. Every ping"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "came from the same location. The phone"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "was broadcasting from the epicenter of"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "the disaster. The lead passenger car"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "crushed to half its original size. The"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "firefighters went back in. The work was"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "dangerous. Wreckage twisted under"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "immense pressure. Fire is still"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "smoldering. Air thick with smoke in the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "stench of burning plastic and diesel."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "But they had a target now. They cut"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "through steel. They lifted heavy debris."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Every time the phone rang, they got a"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "fresh ping. The signal guided them"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "through tons of twisted metal. 35 calls,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "35 pings. The rescue team worked through"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "the night, exhausted, running on"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "adrenaline and hope. At 3:28 a.m., 12"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "hours after the crash, the call stopped."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Maybe the phone battery died. Or maybe"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "Charles had lost consciousness. But it"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "didn't matter. They had his location. 1"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "hour later, just before dawn, they broke"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "through the final layer of debris. They"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "aimed their flashlights into the crushed"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "car. The beam hit a man in a seat. It"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "was Charles. He didn't look injured."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Unconscious, maybe. For a second, they"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "thought they pulled off a miracle. It"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "didn't."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "The rescue team rushed to him. Charles"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "was still strapped into his seat, not"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "pinned by machinery, not trapped under"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "rubble. He didn't look injured."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "A firefighter reached out and checked"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "for a pulse. Charles skin was cold."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Charles pec was dead and had been for a"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "while. The injuries were catastrophic."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Crushed thoracic cavity, severed spine,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "massive internal bleeding. His heart"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "stopped instantly when the trains"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "collided. The crash occurred at 4:22"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "p.m. Charles Peek died at 4:22 p.m."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "According to the medical examiner, brain"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "function ceased the moment of impact. No"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "suffering, no waiting for rescue."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "instantaneous death. He was dead 12"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "hours before they found him. He was dead"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "before the first call to Andrea. He was"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "dead for the call to his son, the call"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "to his brother, the call to his"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "stepmother. Dead for every single one of"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "the calls that guided the rescue team"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "through the wreck."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "The comfortable explanation is technical"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "glitch. Maybe the impact shortcircuited"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "the phone. Many damaged wiring was"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "causing it to randomly dial contacts"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "from his favorites list over and over"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "for 11 hours. But there's a problem with"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "that theory. When firefighters found"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Charles, they wanted to secure his"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "personal effects, especially the phone"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "that guided the entire rescue operation."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "They checked his pockets, empty. They"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "checked the floor around his seat, the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "seat pockets, the debris within arms"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "reach, no phone. They expanded the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "search, sifting through wreckage in"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "every direction. They checked unders"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "seats in overhead compartments beneath"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "debris. No phone. They swept the area"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "with metal detectors. They photographed"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "every piece of wreckage before moving"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "it. Standard protocol for securing"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "evidence. They found his wallet. They"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "found his keys. They never found the"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "phone. The device that made 35 calls"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "over 11 hours. The device that pinged"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "cell towers and transmitted a signal"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "strong enough to guide a rescue team"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "through the wreckage was gone. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "in his hand. It wasn't in his pocket. It"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "wasn't anywhere in the car. The signal"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "came from his seat, but the source"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "didn't exist."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Charles Peek died instantly. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "have a pulse, no brain activity, no"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "phone. Yet, for 11 hours, he reached"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "out. He called the woman he was going to"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "marry. He called the children he was"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "leaving behind. He called everyone who"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "loved him over and over until they found"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "his body. And once they did, he hung up."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "We want to believe that when we die, we"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "leave this world completely. But stories"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "like this make you wonder if the"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "connection is ever fully severed. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "in the static between stations, a signal"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "can still get through."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "So tonight, before you go to sleep,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "check your phone. Make sure it's"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "charged. Make sure the volume is on."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Because if it rings in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "night and the caller ID shows a name you"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "haven't seen in years, don't be afraid."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Answer it. They might need your help. Or"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "you might need theirs."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Gather around because this happened."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Abalene, Texas, January 1996."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Brian Bethl sat in his car outside an"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "empty theater parking lot. He was"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "writing a check to pay his internet"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "bill. He stopped under the marquee to"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "use the light. Then a rhythmic tapping"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "on his window. Two boys stood outside,"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "hoodies pulled low, faces hidden. Brian"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "rolled down the window just to crack."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "The boy in the green hoodie stepped"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "forward. That's when Brian saw his eyes."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Brian Bethl was a reporter 20 years at"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "the paper of Crimebe. He had interviewed"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "murderers, documented accident scenes,"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "covered trauma that sent other reporters"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "to therapy. He was running an errand."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Nothing unusual about it. But sitting in"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "that parking lot, he gripped the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "steering wheel until his knuckles went"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "white. His heart slammed against his"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "chest. Every instinct said, \"Run.\" His"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "brain didn't understand why. Not yet."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "The noise of the city faded away and"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "traffic went silent and the wind died."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Even the electrical hum of the parking"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "lot lights stopped. The silence was"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "absolute. Brian's ears popped like a"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "change in pressure, like an airplane"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "descending, but it was instant."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "The hair on his arms stood straight up"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "and his ears popped again. Then the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "parking lot lights buzzing came back and"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "the traffic returned, but that uneasy"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "feeling remained. Brian looked at the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "boys outside his window. They looked"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "normal enough, maybe 10 or 12 years old."}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "One was slightly taller. They had pale"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "skin, red hair, nothing remarkable. They"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "stood completely still. No fidgeting, no"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "shifting weight. This is not the way"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "kids naturally move. They stood like"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "statues, patient and motionless. The"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "taller boys smiled, but it was a"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "performance. Friendliness that didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "match the stillness, the patience, the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "way the boys watched him."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": ">> Hey, mister, we have a problem."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "That voice was wrong. Smooth and"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "wellspoken, but didn't sound like a"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "child's voice. It sounded like an adult"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "imitating a child, hitting the right"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "notes, but not quite authentic. The boy"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "gestured toward the theater."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> \"We want to see the movie, but we left"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "our money at home. Could you give us a"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "ride to my house to get the cash? It's"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "not far.\""}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> Brian's thoughts felt slow, heavy, like"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "he was moving underwater. But his hand"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "moved toward the door handle without his"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "permission."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "He watched his own fingers, reaching for"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "it. He tried to fight it, tried to tell"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "himself, \"These are just kids who needed"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "help.\" He forced himself to look"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "directly at the boy, tried to break"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "whatever spell had taken hold. The boy"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "tilted his head and light from the"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "marquee cut across his face. No"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "reflection, no life. Then Brian saw the"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "boy had no eyes."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Brian couldn't breathe. His hands were"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "shaking. Adrenaline flooded his system."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Every cell in his body screamed the same"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "message. Run. The boy had no eyes. Not"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "damaged eyes, not clouded eyes, voids."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "The entire visible surface of each eye"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "was solid black. Edgetoedge darkness."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "Then the trance broke and panic flooded"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "in. His hand froze on the door lock,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "then snatched back like he touched a hot"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "stove. The change in the boys was"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "immediate. The polite act dropped. The"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "taller boy's expression shifted to cold"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "fury. A fury that wasn't human. He"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "didn't scream or pound on the glass. He"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "just stared with those impossible black"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "eyes. An itch formed in Brian's skull,"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "fresher building. The taller boy's voice"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "was so calm, so reasonable."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": ">> You just need to get to our mother's"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "house. It won't take long."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": ">> Brian's fingers touched the lock again."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "He didn't decide to do it. His hand just"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "moved. The kid didn't sound like a kid"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "anymore. His voice dropped. It sounded"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "cold. It sounded dead."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": ">> We can't come in unless you invite us."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "Let us in. We don't have a gun."}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": ">> Brian hadn't mentioned guns, hadn't"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "thought about guns. If the boy was"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "trying to reassure him, he just made it"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "worse. Then Brian thought about what the"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "kid just said. They needed permission."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "He couldn't just open the door himself,"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "like some rule prevented it."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": ">> We can't come in unless you tell us we"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "can."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": ">> It was almost like the boy's voice was"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "coming from inside Brian's brain. He"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "looked down. His hand was an inch from"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "the lock. He had to get out of here."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Brian slammed his foot on the gas. The"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "tire squealled. He spun the wheel and"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "tore out of the parking lot. He checked"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "the mirror. The street behind him was"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "empty. The parking lot was empty. The"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "boys were gone. Not walking away, not"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "running, just gone. Brian drove home"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "fast. He ran into his house, through the"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "deadbolt, checked every window. He"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "turned on every light, and sat in his"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "living room holding a kitchen knife"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "until the sun came up. The next day, he"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "did what any journalist would do. He"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "wrote down everything that happened."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "Then, he published the account online."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "He titled it simply be, Blackeyed Kids."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "With an hour is the email started. A cop"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "with 20 years on the force, a nurse, a"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "software engineer, all with the same"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "story. Two children, black eyes, that"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "polite request. And every email said,"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "\"I've never been that scared in my"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "entire life."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "The emails came from everywhere,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "different states, different witnesses."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "But the same story. The details match"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "too perfectly to be a coincidence."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "Always at night, always a knock or a tap"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "to announce their presence. Always a"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "mundane request, a phone call,"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "directions, a ride home, and always that"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "wall of silence, the sudden drop in"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "temperature, the overwhelming sense that"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "a predator is nearby."}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "Portland, 1998. A software engineer"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "leaving downtown late at night. Three"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "kids on a street corner. Two boys, one"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "girl. They tried to guilt him. One said,"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "\"You'd promised you'd help us.\" He'd"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "never seen them before. As his car"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "passed, he saw their eyes in the street"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "light. Solid black. Different state,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "different witness, same eyes. The"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "reports kept coming. Over,200 documented"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "accounts. 47 countries, same eyes, same"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "silence, same requests. But there was"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "one strange pattern repeated across"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "every account, every country, every"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "year. 100% of documented cases show the"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "same limitation. They cannot enter"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "without permission. They can't get into"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "your car unless you unlock the door."}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "They can't cross your threshold unless"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "you invite them. They're bound by some"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "ancient law that even they can't break."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "So, they manipulate. They beg. They"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "weaponize guilt."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": ">> It's freezing out here, mister."}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": ">> We're just kids. Why are you scared of"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "us? Please, our mom will be so worried."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "They use human empathy as a weapon."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "We're programmed to help children."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "Evolution wired us that way. They know"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "exactly which buttons to push. But"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "here's what keeps researchers up at"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "night. We have hundreds of accounts from"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "people who refused, people who listened"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "to their instincts, who drove away, who"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "kept the door locked. We have zero"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "firsthand accounts from anyone who let"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "them in. No blog posts describing what"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "happened next. No police reports filed"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "the following morning. No social media"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "updates. The people who open the door"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "don't tell their stories. Brian Bethl"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "still lives in Abalene. He still works"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "as a journalist. In 2013, a reporter"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "asked if he still thinks about that"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "night."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "I I've covered murders, accidents, all"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "kinds of trauma."}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Nothing"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "nothing"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "compares to that level of fear."}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": ">> Not that long ago, he found two small"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "handprints on his car window. That's"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "scary enough. But what really bothers"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "Brian, the handprints were on the"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "inside."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "Gather around because this happened."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "Charleston, South Carolina, 1995."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "Sunonny Graham lay in a hospital bed."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "His heart was enlarged and failing."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Doctors gave him weeks to live. 200"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "miles away, a man named Terry Codddle"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "put a gun to his head and pulled the"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "trigger."}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Terry's heart was strong. Doctors rushed"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "it to Charleston and transplanted it"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "into Sunny's chest. Sunny woke up with a"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "new pulse, feeling stronger than he had"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "in years. But Sunny inherited more from"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Terry than just his heart. A lot more."}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Sunonny Graham was a popular guy at"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "Hilton Head. As manager of the central"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "plant, he knew just about everyone on"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "the barrier island. His cooking was"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "legendary at fundraisers and community"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "events. The local high school football"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "field was named in his honor. He and his"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "wife were married 38 years, two"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "children."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "In 1994, a virus attacked Sunny's heart"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "muscle. The damage was severe. By 1995,"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "Sunny was 56 years old and dying."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "His name went on two transplant lists."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "He waited and his heart kept failing."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "One evening, Sunny got the call. A heart"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "had become available. Terry Codle's"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "heart, close to a perfect match. Terry"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Codddle spent 4 days on life support. A"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "22 caliber slug entered his skull just"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "behind his right ear. He was 33 years"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "old. That day, his wife, Cheryl, agreed"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "to take him off life support. His organs"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "could save lives. The surgery went well."}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "Within 6 months, Sunny was strong enough"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "to go on a fishing trip to Alaska. But"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "something was different."}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "Sunny had always hated hot dogs. The"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "smell, the taste, everything about him."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "Now he ate them every day, sometimes two"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "or three. He developed a taste for beer"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "and heavy metal music. He never cared"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "about beer and metal before. His wife"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "started seeing changes. Sunny's"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "handwriting looked different. He walked"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "differently. He laughed differently. She"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "said he seemed like a different person."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "His friends noticed, too. Friends that"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "he had for 40 years or more. But Sunny"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "felt something else, something he"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "couldn't explain to anyone. He felt a"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "pull toward the donor's family. He"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "needed to thank them, to meet them, to"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "understand who had given him this second"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "chance. In late 1996, he wrote the"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "donor's widow. Her name was Cheryl"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "Codle. She agreed to meet him."}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "They met at a restaurant in Charleston"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "in January 1997. The moment Sunny saw"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "her, his chest tightened. He felt a"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "physical jolt, a sudden acceleration"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "that didn't feel like attraction or"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "nerves. It felt like recognition. His"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "heart beat faster when she smiled. It"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "slammed against his ribs when she spoke."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "He felt a rush of emotion that didn't"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "belong to him. Love, guilt, and a"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "desperate need to protect this woman."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "Cheryl felt it, too. She said later that"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "meeting Sunny was like seeing Terry"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "again. Cheryl was only 30 years old. She"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "looked at this older man with gray hair"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "and weathered hands, but she felt her"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "dead husband's presence. She felt him"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "looking through Sunny's eyes."}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "Sunny went home to his wife that night,"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "but he couldn't stop thinking about"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "Cheryl. He called her. They talked for"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "hours. He visited her. He felt compelled"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "to take care of her in ways he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "explain. Soon, Sunny's marriage fell"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "apart. His wife couldn't compete with a"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "ghost. That April, Cheryl married"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "another man. Sunny gave away the bride,"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "standing in for her late father. Sunny"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "watched her walk towards someone else."}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "But it was Tererry's heart pounding in"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "his chest. That marriage didn't last"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "either. Both couples fell apart under"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "the weight of what neither could"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "explain. The pull between Sunny and"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "Cheryl that defied reason."}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "Cheryl married Sunny in December 2004."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "Two different men, same heart. And that"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "heart was bringing her husband back."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "For a while, things felt right. Sunny"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "felt younger. He had a new wife, a new"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "heart, a new beginning. Then the"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "depression started."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "Terry Codddle hadn't just died. He'd"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "killed himself. He was a man who"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "struggled with depression he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "escape. He put a gun to his head because"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "the weight of living became unbearable."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "And now something dark lived inside"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "Sunny. His personality shifted. Friends"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "who'd known him for decades said they"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "didn't recognize him anymore. The"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "gentle, kind man who was the first to do"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "a friend a favor. That man was"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "disappearing."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "And Sunny talked about feeling trapped,"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "about living someone else's life, about"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "thoughts that didn't feel like his own."}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "Sunny became moody and withdrawn. He"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "grew possessive, jealous in ways he'd"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "never been. He accused Cheryl of seeing"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "other men. He followed her car. He"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "checked her phone. Then the fight"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "started. The relationship turned toxic."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "Sunny felt trapped in a life he didn't"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "recognize. He said he didn't feel like"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "himself anymore. He felt like a"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "passenger in his own body watching"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "someone else make decisions."}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "In 2007, Sunonny drew up a will. He"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "asked his nephew to be the executive. He"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "organized his finances, paid off debts,"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "settled accounts. People noticed. They"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "asked if he was okay. Sunny said he was"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "fine just getting things in order. The"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "beer, the hot dogs, the instant love for"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "Cheryl. His handwriting changed to match"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "Terry's looser, more careless style."}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "These weren't coincidences. These were"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "Tererry's preferences, Terry's traits,"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "Terry's life. Sunny walked a path"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "already walked. He followed footprints"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "that weren't his own. The years passed."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "Whatever joy Sunny found in his second"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "chance evaporated. Instead, Sunny had a"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "sense of impending doom. He was living"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "Terry Cado's life, and he knew how that"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "life ended."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "April 1st, 2008, 12 years 12 days after"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "the transplant, neighbors in Vidilia,"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "Georgia were jolted awake by the sound"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "of a shotgun blast."}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "That morning, Sunny Graham drank his"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "coffee and told Cheryl he was taking his"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "9-year-old stepson to the dentist, then"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "off to work, a normal day. But Sunny"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "made a detour to his backyard shed."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "there. The 69-year-old picked up the 12"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "gauge shotgun he'd taken on countless"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "hunting trips. He pointed the muzzle at"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "the right side of his throat, just like"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "Terry did all those years ago. Then"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "Sunny pulled the trigger. 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And"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "when the time came, it remembered"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "Tererry's choice to end it all."}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "My name is AJ. This is the Y Files and"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "that was a campfire story. No debunking,"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "no analysis, just a creepy story to"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "scare you and the kids and that one is"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "true and unsolved. Now, if you had fun,"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "I'd appreciate if you can like,"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "subscribe, comment, and share. That"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "stuff really helps. 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[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Hello. Hello. All right. I see green"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "lights. Um, hey gang. Happy New Year."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "So, um,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "I was at the studio."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "I recorded a bunch of episodes. I'll"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "talk about this a little bit later"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "because I'm still prepping where this"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "is, we haven't started yet. This is I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "explaining."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "So, I'm at the studio super late. Got"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "home 56 this morning and also slept for"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the afternoon. No, no, no. I think"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "around 4:30. I said, \"What time will I"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "live tonight to Jen?\" Said, \"It's 600,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "6:30.\" She said, \"Uh, five.\" And I went,"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "\"Oh.\" So, I'm running late. Uh, good"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "idea. So, uh, I'm going to let this roll"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "while I prep."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "I should be ready at 6. I'm I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "much ready"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "like energywise. Almost."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "almost. Um, I just want to pull a couple"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "of of weird news stories and stuff for"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "us. So, we got some some stuff to play"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "with, some stuff to talk about,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "and we will uh"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "we'll be I thought I was going to watch"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "a ball drop instead of I think I turned"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "on a a BET dance contest."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> No, no, no. That's Time Square. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Time Square. Yeah. So, we'll watch the"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "balls drop"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> on Time Square."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> We'll shoot the breeze"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> and then we'll call it for 2026."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "I wish I could put some sound on here"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "for you because I'm not going to leave"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "my mic on. You don't need to know what"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "goes on back here. I'll figure it out."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "Maybe just play our theme song on loop"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "over and over again."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "All right. So, I will see you in a"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "minute. I'll let it roll."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "When they say there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "with minds that hunger for truth untold."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Each week we gather as stories unfold."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Question everything that's our call"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "the files members standing tall"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "from ancient to modern law."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "We always search for something more."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Knowledge is treasure we seek to find."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Why files members with open mind?"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Strange sightes that keep our screens"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "alive."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "Community"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "where mysteries thrive."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "It said everything loud and clear."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Why me year after year?"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "Your passion keeps our journey strong"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "where we all belong."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "We search for truth that others miss"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "with hearts and minds that won't"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "dismiss. One family standing side by"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "side"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "as we shout."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Question every"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "On the after"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "the stars align"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "shines like his neon"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "In a world of mysteries where secrets"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "unfold"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "on Gino story, our tales are told,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "UFOs and also"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> Gino's going to take you on a walk."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Gino story"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "hour."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Take us away."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Gino story"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "hour"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> dresses like you."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> He"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "on the after"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> when the stars align"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Gino's boy shines like his neon sun."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Gino story"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "hour"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "take us away."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Gino story"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "hour"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "dresses like you have."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "He spins his stories,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "leaving magic in the air, sitting in a"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "comfy CHAIR AND ALL THAT VELVET THAT HE"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "WEARS."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Gino story hour."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Take us away."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Gino story hour."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "DRESSES LIKE YOU HAVE NOW."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Geo story hour."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Take us away."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Geo story hour dresses like you"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "are the best."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Take us away"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "and ask around HIS NECK."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "TAKE us away."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Hi."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Hello everyone. He put us on."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Hi."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Oh, am I slow?"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> Did I see you in a Walmart ad, AJ? They"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "can hear us."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> I say good they can. I was just reading."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "That's why I stopped talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "medical things."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> Anyway, okay."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> are you doing crowd work?"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> Not very well."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> Join the club, sister."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> But happy new year, everybody. We're"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "glad you're here."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "We totally heard you all."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "We're still up."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "I figure he'll put us down if he gets"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "annoyed at us."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "No, I'm just looking for stuff to play."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Uh because I I'm going to fire off the"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "countdown in about 15 minutes."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> Tonight's all about countdowns,"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": ">> Hey, Quantum. Yeah, tonight's all about"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "countdowns. Countdown to a"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "a brand new year."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> There's the ball. As we used to say in"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "New York, there's the ball."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> Yep. It's all about the ball dropping."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "Even though I grew up in central time,"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "this is the official New Year's."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "It is the official. Jen says no."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:53", "text": ">> What do you think? The official central"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "wherever you live. No."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> They say the ball drops like a disco"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "ball. You don't you've never seen the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "ball? Well, it's been an apple."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "It's like I told my last wife. I said,"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "\"Honey, I never drive faster than I can"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "see. Besides that, it's all in reflexes."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "You just listen to Paul Express and take"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "his advice on a dark and stormy night."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "All right. When some wildeyed 8 foot"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "back of your favorite head up against"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "the barber wall and he looks you crooked"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "in the eye and he asks you if you paid"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "your dues. Will you just stare that big"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "sucker back in the eye and remember what"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "old hecklefish always says at a time"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "like that? Have you paid your dues,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "[ __ ] Yes, sir. The chick is in the"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "mail."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> Well, you see, I'm not saying that I can"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "wear and I can have everything. But I do"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "know it's a pretty amazing planet you"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "live on and a man would have to be some"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "kind of fool to think we're all alone in"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "this universe."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Gonzalez's marriage to Lady Catherine is"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "considered the inspiration for the fairy"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "tale Beauty and the Beast. A tail is all"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "this time."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "A song is old as rhyme."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Beauty and"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "the beast."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Never let a Disney song go to waste."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": ">> What's very nice?"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "I know you're so sweet."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "I'm not hearing echo. You guys are"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "getting echo."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": ">> Oh, David, I'm definitely a fed. There's"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "no question about that."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> My little body has the sweetest smile."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Be a little buttercup. Won't you stay a"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "while?"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Come with me when moon beans paint the"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "sky."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "You and I might linger in the sweet by."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "dear little butter cup with your eyes so"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "blue."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "A little butter cup, you're a dream come"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "true."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "You and I will settle down in a cottage"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "built for two."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "Dear little butter cup, I love you."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "Everybody"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "has the sweetest."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "Need a little butter cup. Won't you stay"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "up?"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Need a job? You and I will settle down"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "in a cottage for two."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "Dear butter cup, sweet butter cup."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:29", "text": ">> My little butter cup."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": ">> I love you,"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "daddy."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "But it's different from the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "thunder. Others in the area report"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "similar banana."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": ">> Wait, wait. What's that word?"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> What? Banana."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": ">> Banana."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": ">> Banana."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": ">> I hear an echo now."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": ">> Sometimes differ between universes are"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "small."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Is the echo coming from YouTube from the"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "videos?"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": ">> It's Yes, the videos."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": ">> So, we're not echoing here."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": ">> No, you're perfect."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> Why the hell would that be?"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> It's just the videos."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> Well, that's going to stink."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> Let me see if I can fix that."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Like there's a reality where maybe I"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "have a different set"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> or a different sidekick."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. What are we talking"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "about today?"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> By the way, we get into every day."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": ">> Well, that was weird."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> Hey, is there a reality of a show and"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:59", "text": ">> Yep. Did that fix it?"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": ">> Today we're going deep inside."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> Did that fix it?"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> It's getting a little stale, don't you"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "think?"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> Shut up, human. I'm the host of this"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "show. You hear me? Me. Be quiet or turn"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "off your"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> first."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> Is it? But did it come back?"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Uh, I didn't hear it. Play it a little"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "more."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": ">> Sometimes the differences between"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "universes are small. Like there's a"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "reality where maybe I have a different"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "set"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": ">> or a different sidekick."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. What are you talking"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "about today? Po."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "If I had my way, we get into those every"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": ">> Well, that was weird. Hey, is this a"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "reality where I'm the host of the show"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "and you're the sidekick?"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> Today we're going to fight Mel's ho."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": ">> Do we have to keep making a joke? It's"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "getting a little"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:10", "text": ">> shut up. I'm hosting this show. You hear"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "me? Me? Me? Be quiet or turn off your"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "silence."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> Oh, I like that one."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "of universes exist. Can we listen?"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "Universe, the host of the show."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": ">> I think I see the issue. It's cuz I"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "plugged in my my earbuds."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "You and I settle down"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "and up for two."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "All right, that looks right."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Change the input."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "And you guys wanted to come on while I"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "press"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "checky check."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "All right, let's check levels here. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "Victoria, you hear an echo from me."}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "No echo for me. All right, how about"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": ">> You promise to behave and I'll turn your"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "oxygen back on. Promise."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> Sorry. Let me Let me unmute you."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "I can't. You're muted. So, we're getting"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "echo on. Oh, so we're good now. All"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "right. It was cuz I plugged in my"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "earbuds and screwed up all my sound"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "settings."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "So, when I take them out, it's going to"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "be a mess again. That's fine."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "That's fine. Right."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": ">> This live stream is so unprofessional."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "Really? What are you even doing?"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": ">> Vatican City is an inspirational place."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "You don't need to be Catholic or even"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "religious to appreciate the"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "architecture, the art, and the city's"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "historical significance. But there is a"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "place within the Vatican that's rarely"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "seen. Hidden beneath the city is an"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "underground fortress, inaccessible to"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "the public and protected by armed guards"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "and state-of-the-art security. The"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "secret apostolic archives. Within the"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "stone and steel reinforced walls are"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "vaults, climate controlled rooms, and"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "over 50 m of shelves. And on those"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "shelves are countless texts, relics, and"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "artifacts collected by the church for"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "over a thousand years. And one of the"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "most intriguing objects hidden in the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "archive is called the Chronisor. A"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "device that can view events anywhere and"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "any time in history. And for years, its"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "existence was just a rumor. No proof of"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "the Chronovis. Oh, no. We're not just"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "going to play episodes."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Not going to do that."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "All right, here's if this works. Here"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "are Oh, there there's Haley. Everyone's"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "dressed up with Holiday. Here are"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "highlights."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "I guess they're highlights from from"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "from season one. Look at this shot right"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "here. The whole episode was just out of"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "focus."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "Nothing's in focus. I don't even know"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "what Nothing's in focus. That's fine."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "Uh, math facts that seem to defy logic."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": ">> Your hair defies logic. What is that?"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> What is what?"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": ">> You look like a one-man boy band who got"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "old. What's on your head?"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:34", "text": ">> It's hair product."}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": ">> Hair product."}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": ">> I'm glad I got scales."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": ">> Can I just get through this intro,"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "please?"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": ">> Go ahead, Grandpa Timberlake. Do your"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "thing. Instead of glad I got scales, I"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "got scales. Even though we only have"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "five cards, they could be arranged in"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "120 different ways. And if we add just"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "two more cards, now we've got 5,000"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "different permutations."}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": ">> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "whoa. Did you just say 5,000?"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": ">> Yep. 7 factorial is 5,040."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:01", "text": ">> All right. All right. Here's what I need"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "you to do."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:03", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": ">> I need you to empty out my bowl and"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "refill it all the way up WITH VODKA."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "RIGHT TO THE RIM. Guess daddy needs a"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "break. You know, a fishbowl martini"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "would make a pretty good video."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": ">> Don tooting it would. Uh, is anybody"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "seeing this? Hello."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "You look like Ryan Serest with a"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "hangover. You look like a oneman boy"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "band still chasing a dream. You look"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "like a oneman boy band with the"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "Instagram old filter. I could do this"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "all day."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": ">> It's going to be our weirdest video yet."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": ">> You know what's weird? Your skin tone."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:32", "text": ">> What now?"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:34", "text": ">> WHAT SHADE OF ORANGE IS THAT?"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": ">> It's self-tanner."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": ">> Tan? Who are you kidding? That's orange."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": ">> I'm trying to do a thing here."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": ">> You look like a new inmate at a prison"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "where they ate nothing but carrots. I I"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "don't know what that means."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": ">> Yeah, you do."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": ">> Now, the Earth is about 4 and a half"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "billion years old. And when the Earth"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "was young, it was much hotter."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": ">> No, who wasn't?"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": ">> You're telling me."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": ">> Starnosed mule."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "I'm sorry. Star-nosed mole."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": ">> Its sense of smell is so acute that it"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "can detect odor underwater."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": ">> Oh boy, I'm glad I can't do that."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": ">> I bet."}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> It's like a sewer in here."}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": ">> I understand."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": ">> I swim in my own waste, you know."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": ">> It's time to clean your bowl. I get it."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": ">> What terrifies me is that face, which is"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "how it got its name. It looks like"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "someone haphazardly slapped a human"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "mouth on a fish and called it good."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> Hey, seems okay to me."}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why are you"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "showing this?"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": ">> This is a tradelty."}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:31", "text": ">> I thought you called it little Mr."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "Happy."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": ">> It's an amphibian found in South"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "America."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": ">> Oh, I thought"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": ">> Now is not the time."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": ">> Well, this bowl is see-through, you"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "know. I'm really uncomfortable right now"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": ">> and I don't have eyelids. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "all on you."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> I've tried to summon Princess Tuscow,"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "the brokenhearted lady of Lake Rona, who"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "has claimed the lives of 120 swimmers,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "all young men. I've even held a seance"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "with Jean Simmons while chasing ghosts"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "around the Queen Mary."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": ">> Uh, now you're just making things up."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": ">> I picture closing every show with the"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "seance like this."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Okay. I didn't see that coming."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": ">> Dr. Freeman did this procedure without"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "gloves, without anesthesia, without"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "surgical training."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": ">> Oh, [ __ ] I'd rather have a bottle in"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "front of me than a frontal libotomy."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:21", "text": ">> Ah, that old gem."}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": ">> I got a million of them."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": ">> Today, we're going to try and explain"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "ASMR. What it is, how it works, and why"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "millions of people are watching ASMR"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "videos."}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't get the whole dungeon"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "thing at all."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:33", "text": ">> Dungeon? What do you"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:33", "text": ">> And who could be comfortable in all that"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "leather?"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": ">> No, no, no, no. You're thinking of"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "You're thinking of something different."}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "Uh uh ASMR causes people to feel the"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "tingling sensations all over their body."}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:43", "text": ">> I think we're talking about the same"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "videos."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:45", "text": ">> We're not."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:46", "text": ">> These are the ones where they pick a"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "safe word, right?"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:48", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> Peanut brittle."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:51", "text": ">> We don't need a"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> I guess that's two words, right? Um"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": ">> ASMR has nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": ">> platypus."}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "ASMR folks call a brain gasm."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": ">> No. Every time someone hits the like"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "button, I feel a tingling in my DORSAL"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "FIN. OH. OH, BOY. Someone just did it."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": ">> I FELT THAT, TOO."}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": ">> OH, BABY."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:16", "text": ">> OKAY, ease up on the like button. We"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "don't want heckle fish to stroke out."}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> And these fish are completely aquatic."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "We're not talking about flying fish."}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "flying fish?"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": ">> There are a few species of fish that can"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "fly. Technically, they glide, but it's"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "pretty amazing, actually."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:35", "text": ">> Amazing. I'll say it's like me, right?"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "It's like a whole new world."}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "All new stuff for me to see"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": ">> during the video, right?"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:48", "text": ">> I just fly along and sing this song."}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "It's a whole new world for me."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:52", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": ">> The most alluring things in life are"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "often those that are unattainable."}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:56", "text": ">> So true."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:58", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": ">> Sheila. Oo, talk about alluring and"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "unattain. Hey, Victor."}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "Oh crap."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": ">> I guess we're doing this now. Who's"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "Sheila?"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:07", "text": ">> She was this angel fish that I knew when"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "we were guppies."}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": ">> Oh, she had the most perfect gills. And"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "oh my own. Her pelvic fins went all the"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "way back."}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> No, no, no. I I'm talking about secret"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "places."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": ">> Oh, I dreamed about Sheila's secret"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "places. You know what I'm talking about."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": ">> No, I I don't. I I mean, I do, but we're"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Can't you see me swimming here? I got"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "payments up the wazoo."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "I just don't know what to do."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "I need a lawyer or two."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "Victoria, you out there? Check. One,"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "two, breaker. Breaker one nine. Breaker"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "one nine. Do you hear me?"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "Do you hear?"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:05", "text": ">> Did you hear that?"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": ">> You didn't hear echo, huh?"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": ">> I heard him for a second."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:12", "text": ">> Oh, there he is."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": ">> You got him."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": ">> You hear this?"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": ">> Yep. I get pretty freaky."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> All right, we might be good to go. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> one minute to spare."}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": ">> One minute to spare."}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "One day, a drunk ice fisherman drilled a"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "hole in the ice and looked into the"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "hole. A loud voice from above said,"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "\"THERE ARE NO FISH down there.\" He"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "walked several yards away and drilled"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "another hole and peered into the hole"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "again. And the voice said, \"There's no"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "fish down there.\" He then walked about"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "50 yards away, drilled another hole, and"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "again the voice said, \"I'm telling you,"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "THERE'S NO FISH DOWN THERE.\" HE LOOKED"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "UP TO the sky and said, \"God, is that"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "you?\" The voice said, \"No, you idiot."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "I'm the rink manager.\""}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "I love that, buddy. It's a good one."}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "But it's different from the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "thunder. Others in the area report"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "similar phenomena."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> Well, wait, wait. What's that word?"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> What? Phenomena."}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": ">> Phenomena."}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "Phenomena"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "and you may continue."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": ">> Just how much time is left?"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": ">> All engine running."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "This one goes out to the first fish in"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "space."}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "Ground control to Major Tom."}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "Ground control to Major Tom."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "Take your protein pills and put your"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "helmet on."}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "Ground control to major t"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:15", "text": ">> commencing countdown engine."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:22", "text": ">> Check ignition and may God's love be"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "with you."}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:32", "text": ">> Here we go, baby. To the moon."}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "This is ground"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "and the papers want to know who you"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "wear."}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "Now it's time to leave the"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "dare."}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "This is major"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "ground control."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "I'm stepping through the door"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "and I'm floating in the pecular way"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "and the stars look very different today"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "of the world."}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "I can do."}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "We're getting there."}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "All that"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "all that prep and there's nothing really"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "new."}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:13", "text": ">> Tickle vision at the pork chop express"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "and I'm talking to whoever's listening"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "out there. It's like I told my last"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "wife. I says, \"Honey, I never drive"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "faster than I can see. Besides that,"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "it's all in the reflexes."}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "You just listen to the pork chop express"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "and take his advice on a dark and stormy"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "night. All right. When some wildeyed"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "8-ft tall maniac grabs your neck, taps"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "the back of your favorite head up"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "against the barroom wall and he looks"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "you crooked in the eye and he asks you"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "if you paid your dues. Well, you just"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "stare that big sucker back in the eye"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "and remember what old hecklefish always"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "says at a time like that. Have you paid"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "your dues, Fish? Yes, sir. The check is"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "in the mail."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:58", "text": ">> Well, you see, I'm not saying that I've"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "been everywhere and I've done"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "everything, but I do know it's a pretty"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "amazing planet we live on here. And a"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "man would have to be some kind of fool"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "to think we're all alone in this"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "universe."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": ">> And the airport was buzzing. These were"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "the days before a full body scanner."}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "Remove your laptops, tablets, and place"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "them in their own dirty plastic tray"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "that's still wet from the last guy for"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "some reason."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:26", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> Take off your belt, your shoes, and"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "remove any lotions, creams, or gels, and"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "place your personal items in another"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "dirty plastic tray. If there are no"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "trays available, please fight over them"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "as we at the TSA take bets to see how"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "angry we can make you. If you become"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "violent in 3 minutes or less, I win 20"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "bucks. step forward and have your rights"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "completely trampled by an angry"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "middle-aged man in a blue shirt. Once"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "you step through our X-ray machine that"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "may or may not cause cancer, we may"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "decide to put on plastic gloves and"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "fondle you in front of a group of"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "strangers. This is what we in the TSA"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "call the cherry on top."}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:09", "text": ">> You good?"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": ">> I've been wanting to get that off my"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "chest for a long time."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "And around the circle, sprinkle various"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "substances like salt and herbs. And for"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "especially evil demons, an animal like a"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "goat or a chicken would have to be"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "sacrificed."}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:24", "text": ">> Salt and herbs on a dead chicken. That"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "doesn't sound like a ritual. IT SOUNDS"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "LIKE A DELICIOUS RECIPE."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> You're killing me, pal."}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": ">> Well, I'm sorry. I skipped lunch and you"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "tell me exorcisms use 11 herbs and"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "spices on chicken. What do you expect?"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "By the way, you and Colonel Sanders make"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "demons sound fingerlicking good."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:41", "text": ">> That was not my intention. Now I know"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "what a chicken's so addicting. It's"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "seasoned with evil."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:44", "text": ">> If you just let me get through this,"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "we'll grab lunch."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> Chicken bucket from KFC."}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> Is that even a question at this point?"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": ">> My little butter cup has the sweetest"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "smile."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "Deal little butter cup, won't you stay a"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "while?"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Come with me where moon beans paint the"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "sky."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "And you and I might linger in the sweet"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "by and by. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "dear little butter cup with your eyes so"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "blue."}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "A little buttercup, you're a dream come"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "true."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "You and I will settle down in a cottage"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "built for two. Oh, dear little"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "buttercup, I love you."}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "Everybody, my little butter."}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:03", "text": ">> A smile. A smile."}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "A wild"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:16", "text": ">> you need a job. You and I will settle"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "down in a cottage built for two."}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "Dear little butter cup, sweet little"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "butter cup."}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> My little buttercup."}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> I love you."}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": ">> Thank you. Sometimes the differences"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "between universes are small, like"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "there's a reality where maybe I have a"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "different set"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "or a different sidekick."}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. What are we talking"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "about today? Belle's hole. I love"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "Belle's hole. If I had my way, we'd get"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "into hole every day."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": ">> Well, that was weird. Hey, is there a"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "reality where I'm the host of the show"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "and you're the sidekick?"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:58", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "Today we're going deep inside Mel's"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "hole."}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Do we have to keep making that joke?"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "It's It's getting a little stale, don't"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "you think?"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": ">> Shut up, human. I'm the host of this"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "show."}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:14", "text": ">> Burn off your oxygen. I'LL TELL YOU WHEN"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": ">> YEAH, but silence."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> Oh, I like that one."}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": ">> Born into a devoutly Catholic family,"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "Anelise Michelle had a normal childhood."}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": ">> what kind of name is Anal Ease?"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "Analise,"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": ">> what' I say?"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> She was children's game from the UK"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "called Tiggy Touchwood, which is"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "essentially a game of tag."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:41", "text": ">> Now what?"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:44", "text": ">> Touchwood."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:44", "text": ">> Don't be an infant."}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": ">> So, if these other universes exist, can"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "we visit them? I'd like to go to that"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "universe where I'm the host of the show."}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "You promise to behave that I'll turn"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "your oxygen back on. Promise."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": ">> I promise. Promise."}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:12", "text": ">> Good human. Now tell me, who's the boss?"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "Who's the boss?"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "Tony Danza."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> Oh, you think that's funny, huh? What if"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "I put helium down your tube instead? Eh,"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> I'm begging you. Oh, no. Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": ">> Oh, really? Really? Does Does this make"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "you happy? Does this make you feel good?"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "It kind of does, actually."}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:33", "text": ">> Some say this was how the count was able"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "to talk his way out of the English"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "prison."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:35", "text": ">> Jedi mind trick."}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:37", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": ">> I'm not the count you're looking for."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:39", "text": ">> You're not the count we're looking for."}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:40", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:41", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:48", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:52", "text": ">> Crossover, CHILDREN. ALL are welcome."}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "All welcome. Go into the light. No, YOU"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "SAID DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": ">> There is peace and serenity."}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": ">> You good?"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:03", "text": ">> I didn't get it."}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:05", "text": ">> Don't you hate that?"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:07", "text": ">> You're untight."}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:13", "text": ">> Think of a nightclub or a concert where"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "you could just you could feel the bass."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "ALICAS"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": ">> CRAP."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:27", "text": ">> Fear the crab cat."}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. Fear the crab cat."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": ">> Okay, I won. Now we get to do the bit."}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": ">> I I really I really don't want to do it."}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": ">> We had a deal. Fangi rule of acquisition"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "16 says"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:39", "text": ">> a deal is a deal. I know. You don't have"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "to quote the rules of acquisition for"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": ">> Grab your sweater. It's showtime."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:46", "text": ">> Crap."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "Oh, are you the new butler human?"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:51", "text": ">> It's been a long time since I've been"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "the new anything."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": ">> Oh, I'm Hecklefish. I live down the"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "road. Oh, you're the human from America."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": ">> News sure travels fast, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:01", "text": ">> Pleased to meet you. Oh, you're the one"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "that sings, right?"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> Well, right or wrong, I look, I don't"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "want to do this. I feel stupid. This"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "sweater is ridiculous."}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:10", "text": ">> A deal is a deal. Do it."}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:11", "text": ">> Fine."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:13", "text": ">> Oh, by the way, those sweaters are"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "available in the Wi-Fi store. Are we"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "plugging merch or doing this stupid bit?"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:19", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on."}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "Where are we? Uh, okay. Got got it. Got"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "it. Oh, you're the one that sings,"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:25", "text": ">> Well, right or wrong. I sing anyway."}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:27", "text": ">> I sing, too."}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> Oh, good. What kind of singing?"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:31", "text": ">> H mostly contemporary stuff. Uh, do you"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "like modern music?"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": ">> Oh, I think it's marvelous. Some of it"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "really, really fine. But tell me, do you"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "ever listen to any of the older fellas?"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": ">> Oh, sure. Oh, I like David Bowie and uh"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "Bananaama."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:46", "text": ">> Ooh, you go back that far, huh?"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:48", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm not as young as I look, eh?"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": ">> Well, none of us is these days."}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": ">> Yeah. In fact, I have a six-year-old"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "guppy. Look at this here. This song is"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "my guppy's favorite. You know this one?"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:12", "text": ">> Oh, I do indeed. It's a lovely thing."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "They told me"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "a newborn king to see"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "the finest gifts we bring."}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "Peace on earth."}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:48", "text": ">> Can it be"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "from now? Perhaps we'll see."}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:54", "text": ">> See the day of glory."}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "See the day when fish of good will live"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "in peace. Live in peace again."}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:07", "text": ">> Peace again."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "Every"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "must be made aware."}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:32", "text": ">> Every Gabby must be made to care"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "enough for his fellow"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "men. You give all the love a daddy."}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "I pray my wish"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:48", "text": ">> will come true"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:54", "text": ">> for my"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:58", "text": ">> and for yours too."}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:58", "text": ">> You'll see the day"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "when"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "live in peace live in peace again."}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "Can it be?"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "Can it be?"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": ">> It's pretty thing, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:34", "text": ">> Merry Christmas everybody."}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "Let's do this. Let's do this."}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "I play in area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "I love my UFOs in the paran."}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "becomes the truth. My friends"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "I feel the crap I got inside"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "of being only two."}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "Did Stanley face the moon alone on a"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "film set"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "on Thursday night"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "through the"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "All I ever wanted to hear"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "The midnight and the solar storm still"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "come to the secret city underground."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "Mysterious number stations planet 2 star"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "and what the watchers found"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "So I can't believe I'm catching with the"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "fish"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "on Thursday night."}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "All I ever wanted was to just"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "fall through the night."}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "Thursday night."}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "loves to dance."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "Because"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "love to dance."}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "Thank you for watching the After Files"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "live stream. This is not a professional"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "production. We don't know why anyone"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "watches this thing, but we're glad you"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "do. And now to kick off the show is"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "everyone's favorite sidekick, the one,"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "the only, hecklefish."}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "Making your way in the world today takes"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "everything you've got."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "Taking a break from all your worries"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "sure would help a lot."}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "Wouldn't you like to get away?"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "that you want to go where everybody"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "knows your name"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "and they're always glad you came."}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "You want to be where you can see"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "all these"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "name."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "You want to go where people know people"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "are all the same. You want to go where"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "everybody knows your name."}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "The after files are streamed in front of"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "a live audience."}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "All right, that's there."}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "looks like I'm on. Happy New Year,"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "everybody. Look, I'm I'm sorry I had to"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "watch all that"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "uh that faka warm-up, that prep, but"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "that's"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "people were hanging out really early. I"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "wasn't sure. I thought I was I thought I"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "was going to start at 6:00. Slept a"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "little late uh cuz I I was at the studio"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "until about 5 or 6 this morning. Uh"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "working on a new format,"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "by the way. I'll tell you about that in"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "a minute. So, um, so I I I kind of I"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "stumbled downstairs."}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": ">> Wait, hold"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "on."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": ">> Hold on a second."}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:55", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:59", "text": ">> I was coming to take off."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:01", "text": ">> No, no, no. No. I Oh, you mean the text?"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:03", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": ">> Forgot about that."}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:07", "text": ">> Well, you didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "Oops. Gave myself a chore. There she is."}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": ">> Here. Now I got to clean up this mess."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "Give me just a second."}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:18", "text": ">> Oh, the wife is going down."}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:18", "text": ">> They're almost ready."}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:20", "text": ">> Hey."}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "I just spilled Red Bull all over the"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "desk. Yeah. So, I So, I stumbled down"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "and I asked Jen like, \"What time am I"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "on? Am I on at 6:00 or 6:30?\" And she"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "said, \"5.\" And I went, \"Oh, no. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "ready for that."}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "So, I was doing my prep last minute. And"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "there were a lot of people kind of"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "hanging out here because I expected the"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "stream to start. So, I asked the chat,"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "\"Do you want to just I'll turn the"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "camera on. You could watch the the prep"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "and the warm-up, which I did.\" And you"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "could see it's it's a bit of a Can you"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "say [ __ ] show?"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:56", "text": ">> You can say [ __ ] show."}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": ">> It's a bit of a It's a [ __ ] show at the"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "uh Factory. Can't say that. Can't say"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:05", "text": ">> So, all that all that stmens, there's a"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "lot of Yiddish. so far in the stream."}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "Well, that's tremendous. You saw the I"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "go through that every single time."}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "Usually, it's usually uh audio problems"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "every single time. So, that's that's"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "what you were watching. So, if you were"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "bored, I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "but that's what it was. Echo. This mic"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "doesn't work. I can't hear through my"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "headphones. I do it every time. Um"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "I used to work in radio for years and I"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "can't get the audio working here. So,"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "the new format uh that I was shooting"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "last night, so I'm shooting it in the"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "basement. It's called Campfire Campfire"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "Stories. And what they are are short"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "episodes like somewhere between five,"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "seven, eight minutes. And it's just a"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "spooky creepy story. There's no debunk"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "at the end. There's no deep analysis."}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "It's not very jokey. It's just creepy"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "stories. So, um, so I shot six of those"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "late last night, early this morning. I"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "hope you like them because the stories"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "are really fun, you know, about phone"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "calls from the dead. And"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "there was this one crazy story that I"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "found. I had never heard it before. It"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "was about the um it's called The Heart"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "of Sunny Graham. Do you guys know this"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "one?"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "Where this um this guy in his 50s gets a"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "heart transplant and he starts taking on"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "the memories of the guy of the donor who"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "gave him the heart."}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "And I thought that was crazy and I kind"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "of thought it was sort of impossible."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "But I learned in the research of of"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "doing that that story that the heart has"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "40,000 neurons in it. It's kind of like"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "a mini brain that the heart communicates"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "to the brain and other parts of the body"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "sort of on its own"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "and that there have been studies that"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "some of that information does transfer"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "to transplant recipients. That thought"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "that was crazy. Um so with Sunny Graham"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "it wasn't it wasn't a happy situation."}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "I'm not going to spoil it for you, but"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "it wasn't a good situation. Uh, Chief"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "Navy heard something like that."}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "All right, who's in the chat?"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "Who is in the chat? I see Sandra's here."}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "Good to see you. Bamone 83. Always solid"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "in the in the chat section. Um, by the"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "way, people were mentioning this is not"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "a professional uh chat, so don't worry"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "about that. Uh, Joe Woods looking for a"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "shout out. I got you. Happy New Year."}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "Uh, Don, I appreciate uh that you enjoy"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "the storytelling. Bris Guys here, real"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "Mr. Tibby, Nathan Aringer, that guy Ed"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "Smith, what's up? Rick Stewart's here."}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "Uncle Deuce, Sean, good to see you."}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "Katana is here. Mr. Blise, Blizz, Bill's"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "a bud waving."}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "Hey to you. David, Jonathan, uh, Tina's"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "here. Humbult Nursery's here. We"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "probably shopped from you at some point"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "back in the day. Uh, Gino brought a lot"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "of pounds down from Humbult."}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "I think I think we're past the statute"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "of limitations. I I think I should"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "probably check on that. Well, we we"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "we're descheduled. We're fine. Uh Dober"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "Dober Dire, good to see you. Happy New"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "Year. You guys having a good New Year? I"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "know there's some people in the chat"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "where it's already 2026."}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "That's weird. It's like you go back in"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "time over the uh international date"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "line."}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "Uh Fox Body Davidson uh Kurt from West"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "Babylon, New York. I know Babylon well"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "because um that's where that's where I"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "was at WBA, Long Island's home of rock"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "and roll with 50 minutes of rock every"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "hour."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "I took over for Opie from uh remember"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "Opie and Anthony. I took over his show"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "and I you know I'm not saying I got"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "better ratings than Opie did, but I got"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "better ratings than Opie did. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "worked out fine for him for a while. Hey"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "Jamie, good to see you. Shannon's here"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "from Nashville, Florida here. So, East"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "Coasters 9:36."}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "I'll stay on until about a half hour"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "after the ball."}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "Let's see what's what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "the uh with the ball."}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "All right, there's the ball. There's the"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "ball, as we say."}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "Um, as you know, I'm from New York, so"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "I've done the the Times Square New"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "Year's Eve thing. Did a did it a couple"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "of times."}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "I recommend everyone do it once and then"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "that's probably enough. I mean, it's a"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "million people in Time Square and it's"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "super fun and everybody's really great."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "There's re rarely are is there trouble"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "down there, but I mean, there's a"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "serious police presence. I mean, uh, the"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "whole mounted unit is out there, so it's"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "hard to get rowdy when there's 24 giant"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "horses."}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "Uh, maybe one day I tell you guys a"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "story about when dad was working with"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "mounted and the horses went into the"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "bar. You know that joke? uh a horse"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "walks into a bar. Well, in the 70s, the"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "mountain unit would they would do that."}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "Um so you got a million people in Time"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "Square and it's super fun. Everybody's"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "great. The problem is at 12:01"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "every store, every shop, every every"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "storefront, everything. They just lock"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "their doors real fast. So there's"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "nowhere to pee. And you've been drinking"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "all night long. You've been drinking all"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "night long. So you just you're just"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "every alley"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "around around Time Square. I mean from"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "from 8th Avenue all the way to Fifth"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "probably from 36th all the way up to"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "like four all the way up to maybe"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "Columbus Circle. People urinating in"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "every alley. It's it's pretty gross."}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "Be a great business model is just uh"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "rent a lot with portaotties and charge"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "people charge them $1,000 because you"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "would totally pay it. So I recommend"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "everybody do it once. Um, other good New"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "Year's Eve places, New Orleans, it was a"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "lot of fun for New Year's Eve. Done"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "that. Uh, Vegas, I'm here now, so I"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "guess I do that every year, but Vegas,"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "New Year's Eve, a lot of fun. I think"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "those are the probably the three best"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "ones. But for the most part, you know,"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "once I started attending bar, I just"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "kind of stopped going out on the"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "holidays, St. Patrick's Day, New Year's,"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "all of that. You know, we would call it"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "amateur night,"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "which kind of makes it easy for me to"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "stream for you guys because we wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "go anywhere. It would just be this. B's"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "wondering how much crazier 2026 is going"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "to be. I think it's going to be crazier."}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "I do."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "Um I hope the market does okay."}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "Hope the market does okay. Kind of"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "worried about the market a little bit."}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "You guys watching the gold chart? It's"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "not doesn't look good. Oh, you guys"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "hearing the whole team is filing in."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "I used to run these streams in front of"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "everybody so if you're alone on New"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "Year's you feel like you have company"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "but it's too loud and a few people were"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "like I kind of don't want to be on"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "camera cuz it I don't know it's"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "debaucherous"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "but I I would like to roll the stream"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "when the karaoke machine comes up. I"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "think you guys would like that. I think"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "you guys would enjoy um I think you guys"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "would enjoy some of Haley's songs. She's"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "karaoke specialist."}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "Cape Carter. They're not giving"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "financial advice here. I can only tell"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "you I what I do. You have to make your"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "own decisions. Do your own research."}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "That's my disclaimer."}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "All right. We have to we have to kick"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "off um the super chats with Quantum"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "Sledgehammer. Of course, I'll take"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "again. That's too small. Hang on a"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "second. I can't see."}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "Just get old. Uh Quantum, thank you for"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "the 50. 2023, lost my mother. 2024 lost"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "my father-in-law and beloved dog. Uh"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "2025 lost another beloved dog. Raising a"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "glass that 2026 will be a year of life,"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "good time, success, and happiness for"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "our entire wife's extended family and"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "hopefully a new pup. Salute."}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "That's a rough run. Oh, quantum,"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "you know, but not not unusual."}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "Not unusual."}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "It's middle age is is such a lousy part"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "of life because you you know when you're"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "in your 20s you just you go to a lot of"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "weddings and you get to your 40s and 50s"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "and you go to a lot of funerals, man."}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "And once you start losing mom and dad"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "hate it, but"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "it's part of the deal. Make the best of"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "it now."}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "Mike Savage, good to see you. Gary"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "Baines is here. Uh Catnet Mafia is"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "there. Uh Fizz gig, very reliable."}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "sending some love to Quantum. Got to"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "meet Quantum at the Nerd Rotic meetup uh"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "this summer. Was a lot of fun. I don't"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "know if there's any Nerd Rotic fans"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "here. I'm certainly one. Big fan of"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "Gary. So, next time he does a meetup,"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "make sure you come out because I will be"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "there. I will definitely be there as"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "long as Gary gives me the, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "VIP access. If I have to wait on the"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "line, I can't do it. The line to see"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "Gary was crazy. It was It was It was"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "around the block. It was like It was"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "like Sinatra was going to play in there."}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "What up, Eddie Bojangles? Good to see"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "you."}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "Henry, you need a new conspiracy. All"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "mine have come true. Um, yeah. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "all the conspiracies that I talk about"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "on the channel, it's aging like fine"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "wine, man. All coming true. Talk about"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "you think Gary's too negative. I could"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "see that. But he's a nice guy and he's"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "very sincere."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "Yeah, but he's, you know, he's he's a"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "professional critic. That's, you know,"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "that's what he does. He criticizes. So,"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "if you don't agree with, you're not"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "going to like him."}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "Jackson Kaggel, good to see you. We'll"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "make it next time. Russ wouldn't be"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "surprised if Neurotic is here himself. I"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "I doubt it. Gary's probably hanging out"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "with his family. At least I hope he is."}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "Um, if anyone's alone on New Year's,"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "hang out. Welcome."}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "Hopefully, we'll have some laughs"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "tonight. That's why I do this because I"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "know the holidays are hard, especially"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "when you lose people"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "or something, you know, a breakup, a"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "divorce, a death, losing dogs."}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "Why? That hurts even more, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "Losing a pet, it's the worst."}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "But that's why I do this. So, every"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "Thanksgiving, every Christmas, every New"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "Year's Eve, I'm here. I don't think I've"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "missed a holiday in 5 years. I don't"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "know how long I can do it. So, I don't"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "want to make promises I can't keep. But"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "for the foreseeable future, I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "keep doing it. I get besides it gives me"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "an excuse to not"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "to not mingle. Oh, I see Gino's here."}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "Gives me excuse to not mingle with with"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "everybody, you know. I'd rather just sit"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "in my cave and talk to you guys. Happy"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "New Year, Cece."}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "Real heel turn. came dangerously close"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "to homelessness this year. In fact, I'm"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "here at all is a miracle. Really happy"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "to hear. Really sad to hear that, but"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "I'm happy that you made it through. So,"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "hang in there."}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "Hang in there. I'm hoping I'm thinking"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "2026 is going to be a good economy year,"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "but it could just me be me hoping, but I"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "think it is. I think a lot of the stuff"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "that happened during 2025 financially"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "is going to is going to start paying"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "dividends in 26. I hope we just need the"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "we need to get the Fed uh on board."}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "Audit the Fed, man. Audit the Fed."}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "Speaking of audit the Fed, let's get"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "these out of the way. Let's get these"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "out of the way right now. If you want to"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "support the channel, a great way to do"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "it is grab some merch from the Wiles"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "store shop."}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "We post uh every episode gets its own"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "t-shirt"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "and there and all the artworks designed"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "by uh by Rob"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "and great stuff. Super fun stuff. And a"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "lot of the the merch is only up there"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "for a week or two and then it goes away."}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "But Patreon members get access to this"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "Patreon store. you get a password and"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "all the um all the other merch is in"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "there plus some special stuff that's not"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "available to the public. So, it's a"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "great way to support the channel. And if"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "you notice the prices,"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "20 bucks. 20 bucks. So,"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "it bothers me when I see creators"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "charging $35 for a mug that I know cost"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "them $12 or $35 for a t-shirt. You know,"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "that drives me nuts. So, I keep the"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "prices low. I do that intentionally. I'm"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "a constant battle with the team over it"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "though because they like people will"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "still pay 25."}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "No, I don't want to do that. I'd rather"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "just see more merch out in the world."}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "Make it accessible to everybody. Not"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "trying to hammer you over it."}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "And that's it. That That's the merch"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "plug. I may do another one later. That's"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "the merch plug. Patreon plug. That's the"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "best way to support the channel is"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "become a Patreon member. It's three"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "bucks. Um if you super chat I see some"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "super chats in here for $50, $100."}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "Awesome. I hope you're Patreon members."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "If you're not, save the 20 $30 and join"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "Patreon. We get to keep more of that"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "money, which is nice. Uh with YouTube,"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "we only get about after taxes and stuff,"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "we get about 30 35% of it. Uh on"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "Patreon, they let us keep a little bit"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "more. Uh but you get perks and there are"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "more perks coming in the new in the new"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "year. I'm going to start doing Q&As's."}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "So, Patreon members, send in questions,"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "and I'll sit down and talk for a little"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "bit, answer your questions about"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "whatever you want about the channel,"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "about my boring life, about whatever you"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "want."}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "Tina, did you go on a political rant? We"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "don't do politics here. We are"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "anti-politics. Uh, Natch, this is not"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "live. This, you're imagining it. We're"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "anti-olitics here."}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "Uh, so yeah. So, uh, Patreon is the best"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "way to support the channel, but I do"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "appreciate the super chats. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "regarding super chats, I will try to get"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "to them. I I try to read all of them."}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "Sometimes it gets a little bit out of"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "hand and I can't catch up with it. When"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "I start to feel like I'm going to I'm"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "not going to get to you. I will I will"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "do a last call."}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "Thanks, Paul. Echo is gone. I figured"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "it. It was my fault as it always is."}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "So, I'll do a last call so you don't,"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "you know, spend $5 because you want to"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "get your shout out or your comment and I"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "don't read it. I know that's annoying."}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "So, I'll do a last call so you don't"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "waste your money, but it I also have the"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "main chat going,"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "so I do my best to keep up with it, but"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "it goes pretty fast. If you tag me at"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "the Y files, I will see it a lot easier"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "if you have a question."}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "5.5 million subs and still begging for"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "money for makeup. Gez, sorry, rep to"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "elites. I mean, we got to we got to we"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "got to make a living, right? We got to"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "pay the bills."}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "And look, as far as other creators go,"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "nobody's prices are lower. Nobody does"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "fewer plugs. I mean, they don't. All my"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "plugs I do at the end of the show. I"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "don't ask for I don't ask for a scent"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "before you get all the content, so you"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "can just bail out. I mean, I think you"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "should stay for the song, but I do it"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "all at the end. I don't even ask you to"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "like and subscribe upfront. That annoys"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "me even when someone starts talking for"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "like just a couple of minutes and they"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "go and if you like all this stuff make"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "sure you hit the like and the bell and"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "the thing I don't like I skip I skip it"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "even though it's 5 seconds I skip it. So"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "all plugs all begging happens at the end"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "and if money's tight then don't do it."}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "If you're just watch the show that's"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "fine"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "but supporters I do appreciate you. It's"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "what keeps us going here. Happy new year"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "to you, Kurt. Good to see you. Spice"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "loves the song. It's an earworm and uh"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "and a fan created that. Just sent it to"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "me. Just emailed it to me and I played"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "it. I was like, \"This is perfect.\" I"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "mean, I couldn't improve on it."}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "I'm not crying, you're crying."}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "Uh uh Fragile is back asking, \"Was I an"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "ArtBell fan?\" I'm a huge ArtBell fan."}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "Artbell is a is a major influence for"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "the station. the station. I'm still in"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "radio mode for the for the channel, for"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "the show. Um, it's the content is"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "inspired by ArtBell."}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "My storytelling is inspired by the"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "Twilight Zone"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "and the format,"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "at least when I started, was Mr. Rogers"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "Neighborhood and Peewee's Playhouse."}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "That's what I wanted to do. Wacky"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "characters, have fun, but still learn"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "And I try to take Art's approach with"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "the stories."}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "be and be respectful and just let the"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "story kind of breathe and not be too"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "critical or condescending about it. And"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "then at the end, I break down what I"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "learned during the research. Here's"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "what's true that I can prove. Uh here's"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "what's false that I can prove. And then"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "there's the stuff in the middle that"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "it's really up to you to make up your"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "own mind. I appreciate that. Uh Euendar"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "saying you earn every penny."}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "I do appreciate that. You know, I don't"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "I don't talk very often because I don't"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "like to complain and and and moan about"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "how much I work,"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "but it's about a 100 hours a week. Like"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "I was telling you earlier, I was"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "shooting this morning at 4:00 a.m. is"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "when I got those episodes done. I had"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "been at the office the whole day before,"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "so I went all the way through no sleep"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "to get those done to make sure that we"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "had some content for you guys um coming"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "into the new year."}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "So, I you know, I have a couple of"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "creators that I talk to from time to"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "time that say, \"How, you know, how do"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "you pump out so much content? How is the"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "channel so successful?\" And I'm not."}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "And I say, \"I probably work harder than"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "you, with all due respect, you just you"}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "to make this work on this platform, you"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "have to constantly constantly churn it"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "out.\""}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "Uh, which isn't easy. And and it's"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "It's not healthy. I It's, you know,"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "working 80, 90, 100 hours a week. I"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "don't want to do that. I have to do"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "that. Hopefully, in the new year, we can"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "fix that."}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "Um, so when begging for change, a lot of"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "that is to get help, you know, editors."}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "And boy, I can't find any writers, but"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "boy, I'd love to have a writer or two."}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "Uh, Chris saying, \"You're not far from"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "being this generation's art bell.\""}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "That's very kind of you, but I always"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "reject that compliment. I appreciate it,"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "but I reject it because Art was such a"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "legend. He's irreplaceable."}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "Um, but I'm very excited to be working"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "on that movie, uh, the Artbell movie. I"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "think I don't know if I can say too much"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "about it yet, but, uh, but I will be in"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "that movie as just a cameo. Uh, but I am"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "helping put it together and working with"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "the production company on that. And, uh,"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "and we've got Paul Giamati who's going"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "to do art."}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "which is a weird casting to me. Of"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "course, if if you can get Paul, you get"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "him. But I don't know if is Paul going"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "to do our art had such a deep"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "distinctive voice. I don't know if what"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "Paul's going to do with it."}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "But I mean, he'll he'll figure it out."}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "Paul will be fine. And uh and the thing"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "about Paul is he he's an Artbell fan and"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "he loves all the stories. He has a"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "podcast, by the way, where he talks"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "about all this kind of stuff and it's"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "pretty good. He does it with a with a"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "partner who I don't who I don't know,"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "but it's a pretty good podcast. So, you"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "know, after talking to the producers"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "about that casting, I was like, uh, is"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "that is he really right? And they were"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "like, he he really is because he loves"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "this stuff. And I think he kind of needs"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "someone who's who's in who's into the"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "topics."}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "So, I forget what my role is going to"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "be. I think I'm going to be like a"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "councilman. I think I'm going to get to"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "say two words like get out or something."}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "Kila Kush uh kind of likes Paul G's art"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "belt. Okay."}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "I I think he's going to be great. He's"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:59", "text": "kind of great in everything. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "he's he was great in the ter in the"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "terrible Star Trek show. You know, he"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "elevates everything. Happy New Year to"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "you, Craig. Too bad. See Mini Art Bell."}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "Yeah, he's kind of a little guy."}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "We'll see."}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "What's up, Slown?"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "Billy Balloons. Good to see you. Forest"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "Card, are you asking me if I have a"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "motorcycle? Not anymore. Um,"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "Gino and I grew up on on bikes because"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "dad was a biker. You know, dad was a"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "cop, dad was a biker."}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "You know, dad was a biker since he was a"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "kid. He used to build motorcycles in uh"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "in my grandmother's on my grandmother's"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "porch in the Bronx, which she didn't"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:48", "text": "enjoy that. He would just find parts. He"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "would build bikes. And then uh became a"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "cop and he joined the Blue Knights,"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "which is the the police motorcycle club."}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "Any Blue Knights in here, let me know."}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "And then dad uh and a couple of guys"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "eventually spun off to a new motorcycle"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "club called a Lmen MC, which is still"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "around."}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "So, we grew up on bikes our whole lives."}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "You'll see tons of pictures of me and"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "Gino on the back of like an FLH cruising"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "around"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "uh with Pop. But dad had two really bad"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "accidents. One was in 1980"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "where his he was sideswiped."}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "A girl ran a stop sign just teenage girl"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "sideswiped him. His leg was severed and"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "reattached and they wanted to take his"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "my dad's leg. I mean they they probably"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "should have but he refused it. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "doctor's like, \"You really,\" He's like,"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "\"Gino, you you can't you we got to take"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "the leg.\" He's like, \"You're not taking"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "my leg.\" He's like, \"Because then I got"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "to get a peg and a patch and a pirate.\""}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "Like, it's too much work. That's how dad"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "was. Everything was funny. Uh so he was"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "one of the first to get this kind of"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "special surgery on his leg to to get the"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "neurons to reattach and stuff, but it"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "was it didn't really take that great. So"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "his leg was like two inches shorter. He"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "walked with a limp."}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "He got right back on a bike. He left"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "that hospital on one of his motorcycles,"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "you know, that his buddies on the on the"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "force put back together for him. And he"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "kept riding and we kept riding with him"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "the whole time. And then in 199, it was"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "like late '95, I ordered my first bike,"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "Sportster. I was a young I was a young"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "guy. So, dad and I picked out picked out"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "a Sportster. Got that on order. Very"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "excited. I mean, I was having dreams"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "about it. I couldn't wait to get on my"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "own bike because before that I was just"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "like zipping around on little Kawasakis"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "and stuff just to learn. So, I had the"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "sports on on order. And then as we're"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "waiting for that and now this is 96, dad"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "got hit again with uh with his"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "girlfriend on the back again. Um a woman"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "hit him on the side, t-boned at an"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "intersection. and she ran the light,"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "hit dad, the bike goes down under the"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "front of her SUV. She confuses the brake"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "pedal with the gas. So, she hits dad, he"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "goes down, now he's under the front of"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "the car. She hits the gas and just"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "starts push dragging him across the"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "street. Uh, and now he's remember he's"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "already broken. So, now he's just"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "getting torn up"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "and he sees that the curb is coming. So"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "he's holds on to his girlfriend as close"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "as he can and then he lifts his arms up"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "like he's going to stop the curb and"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "that that shattered his shoulders."}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "So"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "the accident was so bad he had to be"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "airlifted out of there. He died in the"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "helicopter. They brought him back with"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "the paddles, got him to the hospital."}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "they called me I think as soon as they"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "landed because I hauled ass out there to"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "Stonybrook."}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "I think I that was the fastest I ever"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "drove. I think I was doing 140 in the uh"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "in the HO. I think I was doing like 130"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "140. And I got there uh dad had already"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "died two or three more times. They"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "brought him back. They brought me into"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "the trauma ward like the trauma room"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "where he where they were like prepping"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "him for surgery. They would, you know,"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "they let a couple of family members in."}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "And uh I had never seen so much blood"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "cuz he wasn't cleaned up yet. He it was"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "just he still had asphalt all over his"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "face, his body, you know, his clothes"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "were kind of cut off him to get to the"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "injuries. And all I remember is the"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "blood under the the gurnie, I guess it"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "was. It was just like pouring out of him"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "and they were just putting in pints and"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "pints and pints"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "and uh he wasn't that conscious."}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "Give me a second. This is a"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "life-changing moment. Just give me a"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "second."}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "So, I get in there and doctor's like,"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "he's not really conscious, but dad opens"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "his eyes and he sees me."}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "And I'm like, pop, what's are you all"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "right? What's going on? He's like, uh,"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "he says,"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "\"Do me a favor. Don't ever ride a"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "motorcycle.\" He said, \"Get a fast car."}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "Get a convertible. Please don't don't"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "ever get on a bike.\""}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "and uh canceled my order. And I haven't"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "been on a motorcycle since 1996."}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "And dad was never the same after that."}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "Couldn't really walk. Shoulders were"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "shattered. His body was full of chains"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "and me. Like he would go through the"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "airport and set up. They were like,"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "\"What is this guy's half made of metal?"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "He's more machine now than man.\""}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "And uh just nothing but gears and"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "chains."}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "So no motorcycle here. But, uh, it's"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "kind of kind of a a morbid thing to"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "think about, but"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "dad's ex-wife has his ashes, and I keep"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "thinking like,"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "when they cremate you, what happens to"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "all that metal? Does it melt down? I"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "don't know why I think about that."}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "Bionic dad, says Mary Jane. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "that was 1980, the was a bad one, and"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "1996 was just that was the end. And he"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "didn't ride after that. that that was"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "the end of it because how many times are"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "you going to push your luck?"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "So over the course of his life"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "motorcycle um due to motorcycle"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "accidents, dad had 42 surgeries and died"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "12 times."}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "So"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "I know you guys love your bikes. I get"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "it. I miss it. I miss it. But, uh, man,"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "be careful because everybody who who"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "rides for a long time knows you're gonna"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "get wrapped up at some point. You drop"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "the bike, it happens. You get wrapped"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "up, it happens."}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "And it and whenever I'm on the on the"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "freeway and I and someone's just, you"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "know, a couple of bikes are just tearing"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "ass 120,"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "someone in the car with me would be"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "like, \"Oh, look at these schmucks.\" It's"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "more Yiddish. Look at these schmucks."}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "And my all I'm thinking is God guys,"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "please be careful. Please be careful"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "cuz there was one time where it"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "happened, you know, biker just zips by"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "me and like 15 20 minutes later there he"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:17", "text": "was. This wasn't that long ago even. I"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "think this is on a a drive back from"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "from LA not too long ago and uh DOA"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "DOA you know he zipped by and I don't"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "know maybe it was 20 minutes and traffic"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "was backing up and I was thinking please"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "don't let it be that guy on the bike and"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "it was and uh"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "there's nothing you can really do. I,"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "you know, judging by the look of that"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "accident,"}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "they probably cleaned him up with a"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "shovel would be my guess because it's"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "just a mess."}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "Ma, if you need a writer, I'm available."}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "Send in a sample. I've gone through 40"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "40 writers. I can't find one."}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "Lance traded my 2018 Indian Roadmaster."}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "Oh, that's a nice one for 56 Ford Fair"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "Line. Slow and cool for me now. That's"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "the way to do it, man. And I mean, you"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "had the Indian"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "super cool classic. I loved when Indian"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "came back. Harley didn't. We were We"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "were Harley family. Harley only. Harley"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "only."}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "And uh that's what that's why dad left"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "the Blue Knights and started a new club"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "because it was not a did you only have"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "to be a an active or retired uh law"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "enforcement officer. You had to drive a"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "Harley or had to ride a Harley. So, it"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "was uh no big Hondas in there,"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "which it was always a better ride"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "anyway, but"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "you know how Harley people are."}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "Uh Frank, I saw you sold your sports"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "store. Now you drive a Maserati. That's"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "the way to do it."}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "That's the way to do it."}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "Breman says, \"Saw a dude get trucked by"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "an 18-wheeler at 75. Just ran in front"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "of it. It was 50 foot behind. Not fun"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "seeing buddy's life leave them. I know."}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "I know. I can't even believe it."}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "Went from Bonavvilles to Black Wings."}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "Haven't ridden in 10 years. I'm I'm glad"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "to see that you guys uh are giving up"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "your bikes. I'm glad to see you're doing"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "that. I wouldn't insist on it because I"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "get it how awesome it is. Uh Snaggy,"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "yes, the Sporza was an 883."}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "I I don't think that I don't think"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "they've changed, right? Sports are still"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "883."}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "Belt drive on the right."}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "I don't know since since I got out of"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "riding and I I'm not really that up to"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "date on it, but I mean I can still tell"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "my pan head from a shovel head from an"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "evolution. I still know what's what. Dad"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "made us. He made us do it."}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "We didn't I didn't want to. Gino didn't"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "want to. Here, we're going to put"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "together this I'm looking at Gino down"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "there. We're going to put together this"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "carburetor. Uh, get over here."}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "Change change the chain on a bike."}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "Uh, this is how James Cameron got the"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "idea for Terminator saw your dad joking"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "with love. I appreciate it."}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "You're not I mean I I get sad because I"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "miss him and because you know he made"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "stupid decisions"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "but I had a sense of humor about it"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "primarily because dad did you know he"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "had a sense of humor about all of it."}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "Uh Moonlight Bikes are for guys who"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "already put their children through"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "college. That's that's fair."}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "Uh Trab just builds them now. nor riding"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "uh test runs up and down the street. I"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "think that's cool."}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "You know, if I live somewhere rural, I'd"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "have a bike where it's just you,"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "but defin Vegas. Forget it."}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "You know, and and and Pop was on Long"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "Island. Forget it."}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "Uh Ages Pops was a badass. He was. He"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "was a Superman."}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "Uh, Annalie, happy new year all. Let's"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "hope for a better one. I hope you didn't"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "have a bad 2025."}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "Mine was okay. 2024 wasn't that great,"}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "but 25 was all right."}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "Hey, Frank. Send heckish my regards. You"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "got it."}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": ">> Hey, pretty smart for a human."}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:38", "text": ">> Mr. DSpark on the weed. Happy New Year"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "to you. Roslin never did dirt bikes."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "Even if even if we wanted to, dad would"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "have never let us ride dirt bikes. He"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "He's He was too, you know, too much of a"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "Harley guy."}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "He got the little Kawasaki just for us"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "to zip around on."}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "Gino, you never rode that little that"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "little Kawasaki that dad got, did you?"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "Gino's there. No audio. All right."}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "I don't think Gino ever got into it. He"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "might have been at college. Jane, Long"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "Island is the worst for riding a bike."}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "It really is. That uh that fir that"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "second one was at the intersection in uh"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "25A, if you know, up up there, 25A out"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "east,"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "very dangerous."}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "A dreadnot, if you're hypothetically to"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:30", "text": "get a bike, what uh what would I get?"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "Haven't really thought about it. It"}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "would be a Harley, of course, but like I"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "said, I'm behind on the models,"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "you know. I I I the last bikes I really"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:45", "text": "remember detailed are like the like the"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "FLHTC the police special was dad's last"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "bike. So I remember those."}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "What do you got there, Gino?"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:56", "text": ">> Can you hear your"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "but uh but your camera's frozen. I don't"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "know if you're frozen for everybody, but"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "you're frozen for me."}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:02", "text": ">> Give me give me one second. Pull me back"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "up in one second. I got"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:06", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "Intergalactic new flying car. I've been"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "looking at some of those. There's two"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:14", "text": "companies now. It's basically a big"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "drone. And man, I've been thinking about"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "thinking about it cuz I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "say they're not that expensive because"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "they're expensive, but they're as"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "expensive as like an expensive car, but"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "it's a flying car."}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "But then I'm thinking, if a motorcycle"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "is dangerous, a flying car can't be"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "can't be that safe. Oh, you got the you"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "got the llmen. You got the colors."}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:42", "text": ">> That's not the official vest, right?"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:44", "text": ">> I don't think you ever pledged."}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:46", "text": ">> Oh, that's great. I don't know what that"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "is, but I want"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:50", "text": ">> It's a bunch of his old t-shirts that"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "Alex had made into this for me."}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:55", "text": ">> Amazing."}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:58", "text": ">> I love it."}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "How many Harley shirts did he have?"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:03", "text": ">> I mean, he had more than one dress of"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:05", "text": ">> when he when he died. That had to be the"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "thing he had the most of. Harley shirts"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "and like old bike parts that he would"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "never throw away."}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "He wouldn't throw anything away. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "Lawman is still going on going strong."}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "Blue Knights is huge though."}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:20", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:23", "text": ">> Blue Nights is huge. Uh but they didn't"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "like all those Hondas in there."}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "And then they started in they started"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "letting in like auxiliary cops and"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "stuff. Let me drop you down because a"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "little loud."}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, that's good stuff. Um,"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "couple of shield numbers I don't"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "recognize there. Oh, those are those are"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "buddies, I guess."}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:42", "text": ">> Yeah, that's uh some of the shirts where"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "he was falling buddies."}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:46", "text": ">> Those shirts?"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:48", "text": ">> Yeah, that shield was 3327. So, you"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "never rode that Kawasaki dad got right."}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "I think you were at college."}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, he got into that that"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "accident while we had it. So, I never"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "got got on it. And once the accident"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "happened, you know, I wasn't I don't"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "think anyone would have let us on it."}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "let us on that was in the hospital 15"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:11", "text": "months."}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "There was no was nobody no one was in"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "charge."}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "All right, Gino, you got you got any"}, {"start": "01:27:15", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "stories? I'm going to drop you down for"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "a bit, but you got any stories tonight?"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:23", "text": ">> Uh I don't have any story hour, but I do"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "have one thing I think uh that's"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "important to bring up. Jack Valle uh"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "just recently was on weaponized uh"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "podcast and he uh said that he is aware"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "that over 20 years"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:37", "text": ">> All right, hang hang on to that. So you"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "got Jacqu Filet astronomer and he's uh"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "he's got some stuff to talk about. I'll"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "bring you back in a bit. We'll we'll get"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "into that. Abundantly just played online"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "on the piano. Very nice. Very nice."}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "Let's let's do another check on Time"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "Square. the ball."}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "I'm make sure I'm live."}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "That audio coming."}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "So, what do we got? A little bit under"}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:09", "text": "two hours. I think Serest is still"}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:09", "text": "going."}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "I think Serest is still doing his thing."}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "That guy's a warrior."}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "Volonaut Airbike. I don't think I know"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "that one, Scott."}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "Uh, Figments, 20 minutes of fly time, no"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "thanks. Yeah, that is a problem. And,"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "you know, good luck getting,"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "I don't know, airspace or permission. I"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "don't know how they're going to handle"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "it. Oh, good question. We'll bring Gino"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "back up for this question."}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "Did you ever drink that last go, girl?"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:49", "text": ">> Still in the office."}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "Uh, it's just aging like a fine line. I"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "guess we're about four or five years out"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "at this point."}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:57", "text": ">> All right, go girl. Still in the office."}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "Uh, where are you? Are you in town?"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:02", "text": ">> Yeah, you know, come around."}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:04", "text": ">> If you want to come by here,"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:06", "text": ">> come on by."}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:06", "text": ">> I appreciate it. Maybe I'll see you"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:12", "text": "later."}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:12", "text": ">> All right. Drop him down for just a bit."}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "I don't know what they're showing here."}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "I don't know what that was."}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "See, Crest might must take Adderall or"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "something. For sure."}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "For sure."}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "I think Gino got his mic fixed there."}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "OG. All right. A couple of super chats."}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "There shitty Schmidy. Happy New Year to"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "you. appreciate the 299."}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "Uh Rev saying, \"Can't wait for the"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "basement.\" Uh shooting the first one, I"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "think, Monday."}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "I think we're shooting the first one"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "Monday. Uh and man, we're shooting a"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "bunch in January. Jan, I've got a beast."}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "I've got a beast of January. We're"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "shooting I think four I'm just looking"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "at the calendar. I think we're shooting"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "four basements. I got three episodes"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "coming. Maybe four W's episodes. some"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "campfire stories and uh and then I got"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "Tucker."}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "So, so I'm gone like the 18th to the"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "21st"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "uh to hop on Tucker show, but I don't I"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "don't know if we're when he airs those"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "and I don't know how that's going to go."}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "I don't know what we're going to talk"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "about."}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "Uh but that is coming. So, The Basement"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "is is coming very very soon. I hope you"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "like it. Kind of nervous about kind of"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "nervous about it."}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "Chief Navy, slow-mo the chat, please."}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "It's on slow mode. So, you can only send"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "a message every 60 seconds. I mean, do"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "you want you guys want me to slow it"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "down some more? I can."}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "I can slow it down. Uh, Derek Bridge, I"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "notice you. If you if you tag me, I'll"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "notice you easier, but I but but that"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "one slipped by. I got you. Uh, Dan, talk"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "about World Trade Center 6. I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "do a whole episode on on uh 911."}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "It's one of the things that I want to"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "talk to Tucker about because now that"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "he's covered it, I think we can do it."}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "How does Gino look and sound so much"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "more Italian, New York Italian than AJ?"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "Aren't y'all brothers?"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "I think we look alike."}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "I was a I was a young actor. So, when I"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "went to uh my first acting teacher, I"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "you know, when I was a teenager,"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "I forget I forget what I what I"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "performed, but I you have to do like a"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "monologue to get into the class. I got"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:39", "text": "in. So, I did the monologue. This is"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "Michael Blenderman, uh rest in peace. He"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "was amazing. So, he I did my monologue"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "and he goes, \"I can tell you're very"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "talented, but I can't understand a word"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "you're saying.\" So, you know, I forget"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "what it was cuz my accent was so thick."}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "But fortunately, Michael was also a"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "speech therapist, so he helped me"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "get rid of my accent. But it it still"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "slips in if I drink, if I'm hanging out"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:07", "text": "with Gino, it'll slip out there."}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "Certainly, when it was me, Gino, and dad"}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "hanging out, you know, eating Five Guys"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "or whatever, I would talk like that just"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "the whole time. Just it would just be"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "Bronx the whole time."}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "Uh, but yeah, so I lost the accent."}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "Michael, you know, he taught me to do"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "some different different accents and"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "voices and stuff. BK Belly, uh, B."}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "Kelly, how do you tag? Just hit the and"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "then type the person's handle and you"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "can tag him."}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "Hail Space Pandis is Jackson Keel."}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": "Tina, I don't remember my monologue. I"}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "don't remember what it was from. I do"}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "remember some lines from it. I'm not"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "going to do it now cuz I don't remember"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "all of it. But I don't remember where I"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "got it from"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "cuz uh I I was taking classes in New"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "York City at just random places. So I"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "pulled it from there. You know,"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "Michael's class was was one-on-one or"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "one on just two or three of us. It was"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "pretty cool. I don't think I ever told"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "the story about how"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "I was very close to being cast on"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "Beverly Hills 90210."}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "I I auditioned for the casting director"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "uh at the time was this uh was Sid"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "Lebanon. I auditioned out in Long Island"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "and uh"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "I forget exactly what happened, but I"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "mean I crushed it. I crushed it. And she"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "said, \"You know, I wish I would have met"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "you a few weeks ago because I'm putting"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "together this show about kids in Beverly"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "Hills and you would be perfect for this"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "part.\" It was the part David I for I"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "forget. I used to watch it but I forget."}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "And I was like, \"Oh, that's too bad.\""}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "And then later on the show blew up."}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:46", "text": "Michael even had some of the cast come"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "in. Uh Priestley came in and talked to"}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "us. Was super fun."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "But that was been my career the whole"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "time. Since then, because I was a"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "teenager. Since then, I've always been"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "second. I always came in second. Um MTV"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "when I was like I was a teenager"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "audition for MTV. I lost that gig to J"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "Moore. I forget what it was. It might"}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "have been like a lip-s sync show or"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "something. I lost that gig to Jay Moore"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:15", "text": "and and I teased him about it a little"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "bit when he was in in the studio. Uh cuz"}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "you know because of course Gino knows"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "everybody. So I came in second J Moore"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "and second second all the way through I"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "got to LA and another show"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "I was screen testing for. I had the gig."}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "It was for CBS."}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "I'm screen testing like on the lot at"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "CBS ready to go."}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "Agents are very excited. Like I got this"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "thing booked and then one of the guys"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "from the Bachelor just is like, \"Oh, I"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "want to do it.\" And then I lo I lost"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "that gig. Always second."}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "You got to keep swinging though."}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "Seed seed dubious and everyone else,"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "congratulations on another successful"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "rotation around our star."}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "That just makes me nervous when you say"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "it that way. You know, I'm afraid of"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "impacts and stuff."}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:12", "text": "Uh Eric, can you do an episode on Las"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "Vegas aliens? We are going to cover"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "We were talking about that just the"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "other day. I'll roll it into an episode"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "with some other sightings, but that's a"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "good one because there's real footage"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "and it's police. It's it's body cam"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "footage, so it's it's legit real where"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "you even see the cops going, I don't"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "know what that is."}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "And that was the green meteor, a green"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "object. I don't know why my TV just came"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "on. Is this house haunted?"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "It was a green meteor. And I'd never"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "seen green shooting stars or meteors or"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "anything until within the last two"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "years. And now I see them."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "I've seen two or three since I've been"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "here. Bright. And now, of course, the"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "first thing I think of is I wonder what"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "backyard that alien just landed in."}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "Eric, you're very welcome. Happy New"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "Year to you, Shannon. Whale Tale. Jason,"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "say hi to your wife for me."}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "A fast hem going for Borpus."}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "Morwork. The CIA are watching me. It's"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "either the CIA are watching me or I am"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "CIA. That's that's that's the comments"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "that I get."}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "Uh thoughts of American Sasquatch and"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "the Pites documentary. I haven't seen it"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "yet. It's on my list where to look at"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "that cuz I like David uh Plightes"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "please. I I like him. I like uh Missing"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "411. I don't really like Bigfoot. I"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "don't really like Bigfoot stories."}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "I talk about them because people do."}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "But I will watch that. privacy. Looking"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "forward to the campfire stories."}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "Let me see if I can get you some."}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "I'll tell you which ones I did."}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "You probably just pretend to care. Just"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "pretend to care."}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "All right, we're doing um"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "uh Rayman, the the possession of Don"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "Decker and Gino. just not if you know"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "these. The possession of Don Decker is a"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "crazy one. Uh doing a campfire story"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "about the black eyed kids."}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "Gino knows that one for sure. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "village of the dead."}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "It's kind of a cool title, but that"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "that's really the curses time slip"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "story. Uh campfire story, phone calls"}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "from the dead. That's the Charles Pac"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "story. Charles is on the Metro Link in"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "LA. I remember this train crash."}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "He dies."}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "But after he dies, he starts calling all"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "his loved ones"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "and he and for 11 hours he calls his"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "fiance, his his parents, his siblings,"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "his kids, and uh"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "and he's dead the whole time, but"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "because of the phone calls, they're able"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "to triangulate his phone. And rescue"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "workers go in there and they find"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "Charles. I'm going to spoil it right"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "now, but that's okay. They find Charles,"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "but they never find the phone. They just"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "never find the phone. Uh, Campfire, the"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "heart of Sunny Graham. So, that's what I"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "was talking about earlier. This is a"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "heart transplant where the memories of"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "the guy who had the heart get"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "transferred into Sunny, which"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "in the '9s they discovered is kind of a"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "thing because the heart has neurons just"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "like the brain. So"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "I think it's in something like 90% of"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "heart transplant cases they they did a"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:50", "text": "study 73 people 90% of the 73 saw"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "personality changes preferences in food"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "preferences in music um changes in"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "temperament and memories."}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "There was one kid"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "is kind of creepy and that's what these"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "campfire stories are are just creepy"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "stories. There was one kid, he I think"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "he was four, had a heart transplant from"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "another from another kid about his age."}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "But well, the kid with the with the new"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "heart didn't know anything about the"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "donor. You're four. They're not going to"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "sit you down and say, \"Here's what you"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "know what happened.\""}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "But the kid with a new heart said,"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "\"Um,"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "tell Timmy to be careful"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "that he doesn't fall down"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "and tell Timmy to stay away from Power"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "Rangers.\" And they were like, \"What?\""}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "They don't know what any of that is. It"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "turned out that he got the heart from a"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "kid named Tim named Timmy who died when"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "he fell off a ledge reaching for a Power"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "Ranger toy."}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "crazy. And uh the last one I shot is the"}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "campfire story for the unfavorable"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "semicircle, which is a crazy weird"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "YouTube internet mystery. So the the"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "campfire stories, at least so far, and"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "I've got 28 written. Six are shot, 28"}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "are written. They're all true, and"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "they're all unsolved."}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "So that's why there's no real debunk."}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "There are hundreds of sightings of these"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "kids and they're so creepy. And the"}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "cursy time slip I covered a little bit"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "in the time slip episode which was a fun"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "one. This one goes into more detail"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "about what they saw when they went into"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "the village. The smells. It was like"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "frozen in time. Kind of a cool story. Uh"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "possession of Don Decker."}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "Possession of Don Decker is a crazy one."}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "I titled it Rainman."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "possession of Don Decker is"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "rain."}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "This is true story. Rain forms in the"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "air around this man wherever he goes."}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "Wherever he goes,"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:02", "text": "he goes to prison inside a concrete cell"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "with no windows, no pipes or anything."}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "Concrete. It rains on him."}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "And this is documented."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "Corrections officers, all of this. One"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:14", "text": "officer goes in because Don is"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "screaming. He's freaking out. It's, you"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "know, he's screaming for the guards. So,"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "one of the officers goes in and his name"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "is Welbor. He go uh Wellart goes in"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "there, sees all the water, and he's"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "like, \"What are what are you doing?\" He"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:28", "text": "thought he was just messing with him"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "like it was a toilet or something, but"}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "it wasn't. Dom was just sitting on his"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "bunk like a crazy person, and it's just"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:36", "text": "raining in the cell."}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "So, the officer goes in there,"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "everything's dry, but he now he's"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:44", "text": "getting wet."}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "And then word quick uh quickly spreads"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "through the cell block of course and the"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "warden who was technically a lieutenant"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "says bring this decker guy over because"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "he doesn't believe any of this."}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "And lieutenant sits Decker down and"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "says, \"Okay, make it rain. Make it rain"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "in here.\" And Don just goes really still"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "and starts concentrating. And there's a"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "captain standing right here. So there's"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "witnesses to all this. A captain's"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "standing right here. It's kind of"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "watching and then bloop water right on"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "his chest."}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "He's just getting wet and it just starts"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "bloop just starts raining in the in the"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "room."}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "And it took like two days and they just"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "let this guy out of jail. He wasn't he"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "wasn't like a hardcore criminal, you"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "know? He was he was just a kid. I think"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "he bought stolen property off a back of"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "a truck or something. like who hasn't"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "done that? And they they just let this"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "like just go away. And"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:47", "text": "the rain phenomenon never really"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "stopped. It just kind of settled down. I"}, {"start": "01:42:47", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "won't spoil the story because we're"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "probably going to release this this"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:55", "text": "week. Um but this turns out to be"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "another real phenomenon."}, {"start": "01:42:55", "end": "01:43:01", "text": "Uh I forget there's a name for it. Let"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "me get the name because I forget."}, {"start": "01:43:01", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "I try to do that in all these episodes"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "also is I'll tell the spooky story and"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "then rather than debunk it, I'll tell"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "you I'll tell you why it's true. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "name for this is recurrent spontaneous"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "psychokinesis RSPK. It's been documented"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "over a hundred times. So it happens when"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "someone"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "grows up with extreme trauma"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "and they have no outlet for it. 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Google them and you'll see"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:56", "text": "unsolved, unsolved, unsolved."}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:56", "text": "While they're in there and it's raining,"}, {"start": "01:43:56", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "Don starts like rocking back and forth."}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "His eyes roll back. He's smiling, this"}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "crazy smile. And suddenly scratches just"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "open up on his neck and he just starts"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:11", "text": "bleeding and they don't know what to do."}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:13", "text": "They grab like gauze. They're wrapping"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "him up, you know, to stop the bleeding."}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "And then scratches appear across his"}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "face. Just these lines. They would just"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "watch his face open up."}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "And uh I have some quotes from the"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "officers."}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:27", "text": "Like Walbert said, \"I've been a cop for"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "12 years. Never seen anything like this."}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "The water fell, but there was no"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "source.\""}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "They brought in"}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "the lieutenant. They're trying to figure"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "this out. They're calling doctors,"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "scientists. Nobody really believes them."}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "So they call the one person, you know,"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "in the facility that they think can"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "help. They call the prison chaplain. And"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "the prison chaplain shows up and he's"}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "like, \"Oh, yeah. This is because he's"}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "speaking in tong. It's like possession."}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "It's like exorcist.\""}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:04", "text": "And the prison chaplain starts reciting"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "this prayer. And halfway through the the"}, {"start": "01:45:04", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "prayer, his throat closes like Vader"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "just"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "and he never gets the prayer out."}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "The chaplain choked mid prayer. Whatever"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "held on Decker was stronger than God."}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "That's how that scene ends."}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "Um, on the streams, I used to read these"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "scripts live for you guys. If you want,"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "and people seem to like it, I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "start a poll."}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "Want me to read any campfire stories"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "tonight?"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "Give me a sec."}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "All"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "right, we'll drop a poll in there. We'll"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "see what you guys want to do because I"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "do have some I have some show prep, but"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "it's mostly just the same stuff"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "from from from last week."}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "Let me see if I can get that get that up"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "there."}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "There we go. Yeah, it's it's it's really"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "just the same stuff for stories."}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "We've got the UFO uh UAP report surge"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "and underwater objects. That might be"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "worth talking about when we bring Gino"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "up. We can go through some of these. Uh"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "Arctic frozen reef ecosystem. Get into"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "that. Epstein files declassification."}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "We could talk about that if you guys"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "want to."}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "Uh, the most distant supernova at Cosmic"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "Dawn."}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "Uh, Maya Founders Tomb with Jade Mask."}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "Uh, Tutmas to Tomb Discovery. We talked"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "about that last time. Still cool. Uh, 20"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "new deep sea species. I don't care about"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "that. Quantum spin liquid breakthrough."}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "That was from an older story from a week"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:06", "text": "or two ago, but I'm interested in that."}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "Oh, but this this is the inside"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "baseball. This is this this is my prep"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "kit, which I hardly ever ever use. I"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:15", "text": "spend all this time prepping for the"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "show and I never do it. I just end up"}, {"start": "01:47:15", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "talking to you guys and super chatting,"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "you know, and listening to Gino's"}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "stories. And you know what? I think it"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "works. I think it works just fine."}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:33", "text": "Uh, hi Society. Let's go. Bring me back"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "to the OG Y files. Cool. I mean, I'm"}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "looking at the the poll and it's pretty"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:41", "text": "it's n it's 91% say, \"Hell yeah, son."}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "Creep me out.\""}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "So, we'll let that go to maybe 2,000"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:46", "text": "votes"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "to see because because you guys are"}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "quick on the draw. I know that I know"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "that you're fans. I hope you like the"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "Campfire Stories. There's Heckle."}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:56", "text": "There's no jokes. Hecklefish isn't in"}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "these."}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "Um, which was a hard decision because I"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "really I really like him there."}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "But I felt like"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "a couple of the stories even after"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "writing spending time writing and"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "researching them during the performance,"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "you know, as I'm reading the prompter, a"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "couple a couple of them were giving me"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "chills still."}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "It just says Mr. Ball and his OG. That's"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "legit. That's legit. He was here a long"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "time. He paved the way for a lot of us."}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "Daniel, why do you have so many chairs?"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "It's a bar. It's a bar. So, if people"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "are here hanging out, they can sit."}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "That's all. Most bars have chairs,"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "Um, I don't have anything in MH370, but"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "we'll probably cover it at some point."}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "Word is 2026, but no promises of"}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "disclosure. It's not. No disclosures"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "coming."}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "Kevin Shroud of Torin is one of my"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "favorites."}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "I I I'll probably do it because we have"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "some new information."}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "So, I think I will cover it."}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "Yeah. See, now more people are voting."}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:14", "text": "So, it and more people are saying no."}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "More people saying no. But we'll see."}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "Uh, and just so you know,"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "if it helps your vote,"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "the the campfire stories are about"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "seven minutes, seven, eight minutes."}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "So, you know what? I'll get these set up"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "so I can just dive in. If if we're going"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "to do these, I'll dive into to what I"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "think are the strongest ones first."}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:40", "text": "That's how you have to do it in show"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "business, right? You start with the"}, {"start": "01:49:40", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "strongest stuff."}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "Yeah. So, we have unfavorable"}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "semicircle, the heart of Sunny Graham,"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "Phone Calls from the Dead, The Village"}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:56", "text": "of the Dead, which is just a time slip,"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "but it's creepy. Blackeyed Kids, which"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "isn't my favorite, and uh and the"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "Rainman story."}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "And they all start the same way. Gather"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "around. This happened."}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "Of course, disclosure is coming in 2026,"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "says Hank. The Spielberg movie with a"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "big laughy face. I get your sarcasm."}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "Look, I I could do a whole long episode"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "on Spielberg, but"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "I would hear from his lawyers, and I'm"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "I'm not going to go toe-to-toe with a"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:31", "text": "billionaire. You know, I'm not afraid of"}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "Dan Krenshaw, but I'm not messing with"}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "Spielberg."}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:40", "text": "I have to check in with Sean to see how"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "that lawsuit's coming along. But uh but"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:45", "text": "I would I I would wager all the the"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "secret gold coins that I have stashed in"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:48", "text": "case of the apocalypse. I would wager"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "all those gold coins that that lawsuit's"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "going nowhere."}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "Remember legend of the two sons or two"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "moons being recorded in the last 10"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "years. I would I would get into that."}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:03", "text": "Now if you want um if you have topic"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "suggestions here is not the place by the"}, {"start": "01:51:03", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "way. I mean, you can,"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "but uh but things move so fast that I"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "don't take notes during these. I do"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "during the Patreon streams, by the way."}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "So, if you're a Patreon member, I'm I"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "guess I'm doing a plug. We do live"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "streams for Patreon members. And instead"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:26", "text": "of 7,500 people, there's usually 75"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "people. A busy one would be 100. Now,"}, {"start": "01:51:26", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "there. Yeah. Never talk about the"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "Clintons, son of Emer project. Now there"}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "I I I keep my notebook open"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:37", "text": "for for topics. So we get a lot of"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "topics from the uh from the Patreon"}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "AMAs, but here it just goes too fast. So"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "uh the yfiles.com/tips."}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "You can email team at the yfiles.com. We"}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "read those. If you hop on Discord, if"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "you open a ticket with a topic"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "suggestion, we see those. Or on the"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "official Reddit,"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "you just start a new post and there's a"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "there's flare for topic suggestion. We"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:05", "text": "read those."}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "Cynthia loves her Patreon subscription."}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "I'm glad you do. We have a lot more"}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "content coming for you. I promise."}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:18", "text": "Phineas Patreon streams rock. They're a"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "lot of fun because everybody's camera is"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:24", "text": "on, you know, including the members, so"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "we get to see everybody. Uh, shout out"}, {"start": "01:52:24", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "to the mods working on a New Year's Eve."}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "Sanszel is here. Mary Jane is here."}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "I'm looking to see what other mods I"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "missed."}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "Shout out to the mods and mods. Be"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:43", "text": "careful with the uh with spamming links"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "because I think mischief got in trouble"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "for that."}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "So, I appreciate the plugs, but just be"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "careful."}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "Just be careful with those. All right."}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "I'm not seeing anybody anybody yet. I"}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "can only scroll back so far. Be's here."}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "Mary Jane. BC is always very solid."}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "I wouldn't be surprised if AC isn't"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:07", "text": "here. You see AC a lot on the uh on the"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "247 stream."}, {"start": "01:53:07", "end": "01:53:13", "text": "Razle Yay mods."}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:15", "text": "Uh not Lauren. Very reliable. She's"}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "always on the"}, {"start": "01:53:15", "end": "01:53:19", "text": "on the 247s."}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:22", "text": "Paul says, \"My ball just dropped. It was"}, {"start": "01:53:19", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "a happy new year.\""}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "Good. Good to hear Paul. Paul the"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "biggest supporter of the channel since"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "the beginning. Uh, Johan Brun 3409699"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "Canadian. You've entertained me and kept"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "me company all week while I get over"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:35", "text": "this horrible flu. Thank you. You're"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "very welcome. Hope you're feeling"}, {"start": "01:53:35", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "better. Flu sucks."}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "Flu is terrible. Worse than CO. Kill"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "more people than CO. Jane Shell 2447"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "$10. Thank you so uh so much for getting"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:49", "text": "my calendar here before Christmas."}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:51", "text": "You're welcome. We the team worked"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "really hard to get that stuff out in"}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "time for the holidays. I think we were"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "sh I think it's right up to like the"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "22nd"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "uh merch was landing in time for"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "Christmas and the calendars were"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:05", "text": "calendars came out great better than I"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "even expected. I think they're just"}, {"start": "01:54:05", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "about sold out if you want those. And"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:17", "text": "I don't I don't know if I can even find"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "them because I I never go on the store"}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "count. All right, so we do have some"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "left. Uh oh, they're on sale. You know"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:25", "text": "what that means? That that means we got"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "to get rid of them uh for 20 bucks."}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "They're worth 20 bucks. I promise."}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "There's that Lauren. Here's to an"}, {"start": "01:54:31", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "amazing 2026. Happy New Year's. Same to"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "you. Thanks for hanging out on the uh on"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "the 247 stream so much. I appreciate"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "that. And after we're done here, you"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "guys will be redirected to the 247"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "stream if you want to uh see what's"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:48", "text": "what's happening over there. It's a lot"}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:48", "text": "of fun."}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:55", "text": "Melissa Barrow is 8189 for two. Hi"}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "everyone. Today is my birthday."}, {"start": "01:54:55", "end": "01:54:59", "text": ">> Do we have a birthday here? Yes, we have"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "a birthday here. Birthday where birthday"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "here. Happy birthday to you."}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:09", "text": ">> Happy birthday to you Melissa."}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:11", "text": "Uh B says orbs are real. See Avatar. Is"}, {"start": "01:55:09", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "that a real orb?"}, {"start": "01:55:11", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "we're going to be talking about orbs on"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "the uh on the basement this uh in a"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "couple of weeks."}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "A man who can summon them."}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "If I could summon orbs, I don't know if"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "I'd want to. You guys would summon orbs"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "though."}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "Dr. G, New Year's live stream. This is"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "like his second Christmas."}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:37", "text": ">> I like the way this human thinks."}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:39", "text": ">> I don't know about that, but I"}, {"start": "01:55:37", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "appreciate it. Oh, there's all the the"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "birthday wishes for Melissa. You guys"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "are the best."}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "John says 70 7.4,000 watching, only"}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "4.3,000 likes. Let's go. You know what?"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:53", "text": "I'm not going to complain about that."}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "That's That's a pretty good ratio."}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "That's a pretty good ratio. You know, in"}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "in the in YouTube land, in in the"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "analytics, if you get like five% likes,"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:09", "text": "that's very strong. So, if we're getting"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "60, I'm not going to complain."}, {"start": "01:56:09", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "earbuds keep falling out, but you know,"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:14", "text": "it's not professional."}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:16", "text": ">> Could you once I mean, could you just"}, {"start": "01:56:14", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "one time conduct this live stream in a"}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "professional manner?"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "Tammy says, \"Happy New Year. I was"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:26", "text": "curious, when you were little, what did"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "you all want to be when you grew up?\""}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "I mean, you start out just wanting to be"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "a cop until you're around a lot of cops"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "and then you're like, \"Eh.\" Although, I"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:35", "text": "almost did it. I was I was just two days"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:39", "text": "away from signing a contract and going"}, {"start": "01:56:35", "end": "01:56:41", "text": "on like eh um when I was little. I don't"}, {"start": "01:56:39", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "know. I don't know what we really talked"}, {"start": "01:56:41", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "about. I know Gino Gino liked animals."}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:50", "text": "He was he wanted to be a vet. I can't"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "see Gino going to med school. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "he can't go to med school. Not with all"}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "that weed. There's too much studying."}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "I'm watching your face, Gino. I see him."}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:01", "text": "But I don't know. We're probably just"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "the same kids stuff. Policemen, firemen."}, {"start": "01:57:01", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "Uh, my family wanted me to be an"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "astronaut. I don't know. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "why. I don't I'm afraid of heights."}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "I'm afraid of heights. I can't be an"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "astronaut. Super Bob for 10. I wasn't"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "afraid of heights as a kid, though. That"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:22", "text": "came later."}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "Wonder why. Been around since year two"}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "when things were really janky. I hope to"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "be in a position to finally be able to"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "support you financially and Patreon this"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "year. Thanks for all the hard work you"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "and your team do. Thanks for the 10"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "bucks, uh, Bob. You could have got three"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:38", "text": "months of Patreon with that, but if"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "money's tight, hold on to it. Hold on to"}, {"start": "01:57:38", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "it, please. Just watching is good enough"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "for me. Jeremy, thank you for the five."}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "Happy New Year. Wiles hashthe basement."}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "It's coming."}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:53", "text": "Tammy's back also. Hi, Mom. I love you."}, {"start": "01:57:51", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "I'm so glad I made you obsessed with"}, {"start": "01:57:53", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "this show, too. Hi, Mom. Mom is the"}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "best."}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "Remy saying hash hecklefish for"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "president. Me for VP. I I would never"}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "make it through."}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "I I I I would never let they would never"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "let me serve in a public office. Um"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "although I'd be down to do it because"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:21", "text": "then you get that that cool stock"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:23", "text": "information, right? Get I want some of"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "those stock tips, those Pelosi Krenshaw"}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "stock tips."}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "Remember,"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "let's not be worried or concerned about"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "millionaires who become politicians."}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "Let's be concerned with politicians who"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:41", "text": "become millionaires. Here's Dr. Drock"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "for 50. You know what that means?"}, {"start": "01:58:41", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:59:04", "text": "I said human. Thank you for all the"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "dough tip. As I'm sure you will find"}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "is a good time."}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "It's fun to tip the f."}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "It's fun to tip the f."}, {"start": "01:59:18", "end": "01:59:22", "text": ">> Uh, when they run those, I think about"}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "the people who are here for the first"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "time. How weird this must be. This is"}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "such a weird stream."}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "I don't mind it. Uh, Dr. D, happy new"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "year to all. Thank you for your kindness"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "and efforts in making amazing content"}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "that gets us asking the important"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "questions. We all appreciate you very"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "much. That's very kind, Dr. D. Thank you"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "so much for that. Thank you for the"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "generous donation."}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:49", "text": "All right, super chats. Super chats,"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "super chats."}, {"start": "01:59:49", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "All right, caught up on those. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "checking on the poll. We are 87 to3."}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:01", "text": "All right, so if Campfire wins, which it"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "looks like it's going to because we have"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:07", "text": "about a third of our viewers voting."}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "If you're voting no, remember they're"}, {"start": "02:00:07", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "short. They're short and I won't read"}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:13", "text": "them back to I won't read them back to"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:17", "text": "back to back. I'll do one. If you like"}, {"start": "02:00:13", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "it, we'll we'll do it again."}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:21", "text": "You know, maybe I'll run another poll."}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:23", "text": "Like, yes. Yes. Yes, sir. I'll take"}, {"start": "02:00:21", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "another."}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "I never heard of buckazoids, Matt, but"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "uh email that in. I'm curious."}, {"start": "02:00:31", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "Eric says, \"First time.\" Yeah, my first"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:37", "text": "time. And after watching so many"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "episodes, nah, not that weird anymore."}, {"start": "02:00:37", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "Lol."}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "Yeah, you kind of kind of you kind of"}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "figure it out."}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "The comment I see all the time is, \"I"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "hated Hecklefish at first and now I"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "can't imagine the show without him.\""}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "That is not an unusual comment. Gino,"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "you get your camera fixed because you've"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:00:59", "text": "been frozen down there. Frozen like I'm"}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "in a I'm in a cursy time slip right now."}, {"start": "02:00:59", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "Oh, he just slept. He just dropped off."}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:06", "text": "Uh there's Marcus as a diehard"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:08", "text": "introvert. Thank you for spending New"}, {"start": "02:01:06", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "Year's Eve with us. I'm the same, man."}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:13", "text": "So So I I feel you. I'm happy to do"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "this."}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "If you watch the holiday streams, you"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "see that they come in here and drag me"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "out. Very rarely. I'm like, \"All right,"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:23", "text": "well, that's a wrap. Happy holiday.\""}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "They usually come into my into the bar"}, {"start": "02:01:23", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "here and they they pull me away and I'm"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "like, \"Ah, just five more minutes.\""}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "Because I can hear all the people out"}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "there. Let me see if I can see them."}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "Maybe I'll throw a camera on these guys."}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "Yeah, you won't be able to see them"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "through the courtyard."}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "1% to tips, says Obtuse Man. I don't"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "know if you guys saw that video I did"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:48", "text": "for Christmas. I always try to do a"}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "Christmas message. I couldn't really"}, {"start": "02:01:48", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "think of one, but uh but the 1% is yeah,"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "if you c if you have the means, if"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:57", "text": "you're getting by, set aside 1% of your"}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "income, gross or net, however you want"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "to do it. set aside that 1% and tip the"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "people at the end of the year who took"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "care of you all year. So for me, that's"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "a lot of people that make my life"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:16", "text": "easier. So what UPS guy, garbage man,"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "mailman, um the my dry cleaner,"}, {"start": "02:02:16", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "the the woman who who like hems my pants"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:25", "text": "and fixes my shirt so I don't look so"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:27", "text": "old and fat. I tip her well. You got to"}, {"start": "02:02:25", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "tip her well because you she makes me"}, {"start": "02:02:27", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "look thinner. So take care of those"}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "people. They're very important"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "and you'll be surprised at how surprised"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:40", "text": "they are to be appreciated."}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "Will says, \"Good evening. Happy New"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "Year.\" Same to you. Just putting 1979 in"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "there. Your birthday year just as a"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:50", "text": "taunt to all us Gen Xers."}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "Happy New Year's Nick Tesla. I'm a big"}, {"start": "02:02:50", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "fan of your work."}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:56", "text": "Um, Kila says, \"I feel like the basement"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "podcast is what's going to put the WFL"}, {"start": "02:02:56", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "into art belt territory."}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:02", "text": "I love how humble you are, but keep"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "saying it because that's what they see.\""}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:08", "text": "Um, yeah, I don't know."}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:11", "text": "Those shoes are way too big to fill. Um,"}, {"start": "02:03:08", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "but I do appreciate it. The Wi-Fi, uh,"}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:17", "text": "the basement, I guess, is going to be"}, {"start": "02:03:13", "end": "02:03:20", "text": "very artell like because I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "02:03:17", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "going to do confrontational interviews."}, {"start": "02:03:20", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "I'm not going to debate if we have"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:27", "text": "someone on there who's saying like"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "really outlandish stuff. I'll, you know,"}, {"start": "02:03:27", "end": "02:03:35", "text": "I'll press a little bit, but more about"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "how did you arrive at this conclusion?"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:40", "text": "You know, that that everybody has the"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "ability to levitate. All right. Well, a"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:44", "text": "lot of hosts would would, I don't know,"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:46", "text": "be a jerk about it. No, we can't."}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:48", "text": "There's no evidence. What's your proof?"}, {"start": "02:03:46", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "Uh, I'm not going to do that. Instead, I"}, {"start": "02:03:48", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "just want to know, all right, how do you"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:55", "text": "get from not really believing or"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:58", "text": "understanding that to believing it? Take"}, {"start": "02:03:55", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "me, walk me through the process."}, {"start": "02:03:58", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "Still, your seamstress isn't your wife."}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "No. No. I She I drag her sewing machine"}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "around the house. She never uses it. I"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:11", "text": "still have I still have curtains"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:11", "text": "dragging on the floor here."}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "Um, are you supposed to be live on"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "Patreon? No."}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "All I can find is a poster saying you're"}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "running behind. Um,"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "KD born in 81. Just rubbing it in."}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:32", "text": "Uh, WT, have you thought about some"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "basement shows you where we take phone"}, {"start": "02:04:32", "end": "02:04:37", "text": "calls like Art Bell? I probably wouldn't"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "do phone calls, especially like Art Bell"}, {"start": "02:04:37", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "who didn't screen the calls. I that"}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:42", "text": "would be crazy to do now. You know, I"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "don't want to deal with Baba Buoy calls"}, {"start": "02:04:42", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "or just or haters. But uh but Gino and I"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "will probably going to do some shows"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:51", "text": "live where where we will take questions"}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "from the chat. Those will be a little"}, {"start": "02:04:51", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "bit safer. We can mod those. So Gino and"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:58", "text": "I are working on on that format where"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "he'll probably come in with some weird"}, {"start": "02:04:58", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "stories, some crazy videos, and then"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "together all of us in the chat, we'll"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:08", "text": "just go through see what we can debunk,"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:10", "text": "what we can't, just kind of dig into the"}, {"start": "02:05:08", "end": "02:05:13", "text": "stories. We'll do that together. And um"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:15", "text": "and I want to do it live because you"}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "guys will be able to point us in"}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "directions that maybe I wouldn't see. So"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:20", "text": "I know there's going to be people going,"}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:23", "text": "\"No, that's true. Go look at this one."}, {"start": "02:05:20", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "Look at this video. Look at that one.\""}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "Gary, you remember the Baba Buoy phone"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "calls."}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:32", "text": "Uh Jastaster Book of Seth would be a"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "great topic, but you got to email that"}, {"start": "02:05:32", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "in because I'm not going to remember."}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:41", "text": "All right. Where's Gino's back?"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:47", "text": "Rodney here's a little bit for Heckle"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "Fish's next investment."}, {"start": "02:05:47", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "Uh he's he buys a lot of crypto and I"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "don't I don't I'm not giving advice."}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "Just telling you what he does. He buys"}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "he's hodal. He's hodal all day long."}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:04", "text": "The Slimer, thanks for that compliment."}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "You're very very kind. Solomon, no more"}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "beavers. I don't know. I love the"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "beavers."}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "We're going through the comments to see"}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "see Beaver's yes or no. But"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "but Morgan just makes me laugh."}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "Hi EFR432. I see you."}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "There's Sober. Happy New Year's."}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "There's Luna. What are your thoughts on"}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "the show Mr. Robot? I feel like it would"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:34", "text": "appeal to the conspiracy theories also."}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "Happy New Year. I love that show. I"}, {"start": "02:06:34", "end": "02:06:39", "text": "thought it was a great show. Very well"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:41", "text": "performed."}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "But you know, anything Christian Slater"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "is the best man. Anything with him, I'll"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:46", "text": "watch."}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "Ghost Rider, can I come and interview"}, {"start": "02:06:46", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "you about Hecklefish? A lone shark gave"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "me some info on his habits. Oh, no, man."}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "We can't do that. Going to get him in"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "trouble."}, {"start": "02:06:56", "end": "02:07:01", "text": "Heckle should do a live chat. Maybe."}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "Timothy says, \"More beavers.\" I like I"}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:07", "text": "like where you're at,"}, {"start": "02:07:05", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "Kathleen. Thank you for that. I got I'm"}, {"start": "02:07:07", "end": "02:07:10", "text": "going to have to fix these headphones."}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "They're driving me nuts."}, {"start": "02:07:10", "end": "02:07:15", "text": "Keith, I appreciate the five."}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "More Beaver. More Beaver. Robert Clark."}, {"start": "02:07:15", "end": "02:07:20", "text": "That that's always in my head when I"}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "think about Mr. Robot. Domo Arato. Mr."}, {"start": "02:07:20", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "Robboto. Domo. Domo. Domo. Domo."}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "Uh, Remos. First time watching a stream."}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:33", "text": "Longtime sub. This is all it really is."}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "Like, it doesn't get it doesn't get"}, {"start": "02:07:33", "end": "02:07:37", "text": "better. It doesn't get worse, but it"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:38", "text": "doesn't get better. It's not"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:40", "text": ">> Hey kids at home, if you want to learn"}, {"start": "02:07:38", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "how to do a professional live stream,"}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "watch something else. This ain't it."}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:49", "text": ">> Southside Love from Chicago. Love that"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "city."}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "Haven't been there in a while, but I"}, {"start": "02:07:51", "end": "02:07:54", "text": "love that city."}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "Manda says, \"Bring back the echo.\""}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:02", "text": "That's from the the beginning of the"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "show. I just couldn't get the audio"}, {"start": "02:08:02", "end": "02:08:07", "text": "right. which tracks. That's That's"}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "normal."}, {"start": "02:08:07", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "Gary Heckle for president. I'd like to"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "see that."}, {"start": "02:08:14", "end": "02:08:19", "text": "Then we got Noame Jack for a hundred"}, {"start": "02:08:17", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "bucks."}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:31", "text": "I'm so tired. I'm a human."}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:34", "text": "We've been together too long."}, {"start": "02:08:31", "end": "02:08:37", "text": "I should have my own show."}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:38", "text": "The [ __ ] says I am wrong."}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:41", "text": ">> Here's Gino."}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:45", "text": ">> So while he lay there,"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:48", "text": "I had my laptop in bed."}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "So I logged into Reddit."}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "There was a message that read,"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "\"Do you want to be on YouTube?"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:09:02", "text": "Do you like to entertain?"}, {"start": "02:08:59", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "Come and be my co-host."}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "You only need half a brain."}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "If you like aliens and pyramids,"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "conspiracies get you high, then you're"}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "the co-host I'm looking for."}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:24", "text": ">> No name Jack. Happy New Year's everyone."}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "Uh, I love that one. Uh, thanks for"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "doing this and allowing us to hang out"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "with y'all as my very considerate"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "neighbors. light fireworks all night"}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "scaring my dogs. So annoying, right? I"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "have the most annoying dogs next door."}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "Uh, at least I can use this for an"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:40", "text": "excuse to stay in for the night. All the"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:44", "text": "best for 2026. Thanks, Jack. Appreciate"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:45", "text": "that. Very, very generous donation."}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:50", "text": "Uh, let's see what's going on in New"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:50", "text": "York. There's the bull."}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "Hang on. Just clearing out some super"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:59", "text": "chats here."}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:09:59", "text": "Got those. Got those."}, {"start": "02:10:01", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "let's see. Gino, having technical"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:10", "text": "difficulties. You switched it up."}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:12", "text": ">> I put on I used a diff different"}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:14", "text": "computer. Is this working?"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:17", "text": ">> Yeah, you're up. You're up. You sound"}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "good. You're not frozen."}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:19", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:21", "text": ">> Did you ever you ever do uh Times Square"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:22", "text": "New Years? I don't think we ever did"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:24", "text": "together."}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:26", "text": ">> No, I not together, but I have done a"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "bunch of times. And of course that was"}, {"start": "02:10:26", "end": "02:10:32", "text": "before cell phones. And one time I got"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "separated from my group and could never"}, {"start": "02:10:32", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "uh link back up. So I went and met our"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "friend Patrick uh because I knew where"}, {"start": "02:10:36", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "he was going. We went to a club called"}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:44", "text": "The Bank. So I met him there and and we"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "ended ended the the night there."}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:48", "text": ">> The Bank. Where was that? I remember"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "being drunk there."}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:52", "text": ">> I for I"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:54", "text": ">> Did you go down Did you go downtown?"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:57", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't think the bank was"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:11:00", "text": "downtown. Uh, I feel like uh I feel like"}, {"start": "02:10:57", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "it was near 19th Street. Um,"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:04", "text": "I I could be I I could be wrong. It's"}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:07", "text": "again, it's hard for me to remember"}, {"start": "02:11:04", "end": "02:11:08", "text": "those Limelight years. Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:10", "text": "they're pretty hazy."}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:12", "text": ">> The Limelight years are hazy. I think"}, {"start": "02:11:10", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "Limelight was 20 uh was second and 20"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "and 22nd. You guys don't remember the"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:19", "text": "Limelight? That was in New York City."}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "They converted a church into a into a"}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "club and it was I mean it was a great"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:28", "text": "club. You see live music there and uh in"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:30", "text": "the stairwell these these little little"}, {"start": "02:11:28", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "rooms and couches all kinds of crazy"}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "stuff going on. And uh Gino, didn't"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:37", "text": "didn't you like tear a speaker down at"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:41", "text": "the Limelight?"}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:43", "text": ">> Yeah. What happened was uh uh I was with"}, {"start": "02:11:41", "end": "02:11:46", "text": "Patrick again uh me Patrick uh Mike"}, {"start": "02:11:43", "end": "02:11:49", "text": "Cannon. We were uh at Limelight to see a"}, {"start": "02:11:46", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "Nitsereb concert and uh you were able to"}, {"start": "02:11:49", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "kind of scale the walls a little because"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "they had like big pillars. So, I was"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "standing on like the molding of a pillar"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "uh like seven, six feet above everyone,"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:06", "text": "you know, um where my feet were like at"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:09", "text": "head their head levels and uh eventually"}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "it just crumbled. The the whole piece of"}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:14", "text": "the concrete crumbled underneath me and"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:16", "text": "I fell and was laid out. Thank God uh"}, {"start": "02:12:14", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "for Patrick pulling me up uh pulling me"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "up and getting me kind of into the crowd"}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:22", "text": "while the security's running over trying"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "to find me to uh get kicked out. got"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "lucky. But that was a great great show."}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "Nitsereb concert."}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:31", "text": ">> Uh Nitserev I've seen a couple of times"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:34", "text": "is a good show. I think best show I saw"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "there was with Pat hanging out with Pat"}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:36", "text": "always ended up with someone on the"}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:38", "text": "floor. You ever noticed that? It was"}, {"start": "02:12:36", "end": "02:12:38", "text": "usually him."}, {"start": "02:12:38", "end": "02:12:40", "text": ">> Usually him."}, {"start": "02:12:38", "end": "02:12:41", "text": ">> Usually him. I mean there was one night"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:43", "text": "we were both on the floor. I think we"}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:46", "text": "took the train in uh the Long Island"}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:48", "text": "Railroad and he and he got so sick on"}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:50", "text": "the train and we just watched this"}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "puddle of vomit just slide up and down"}, {"start": "02:12:50", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "the train. Just every stop would roll"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "forward and then it just watching the"}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:13:01", "text": "which just made everything worse. Um cuz"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "we had got Penn Station Pizza, remember"}, {"start": "02:13:01", "end": "02:13:04", "text": "Penn Station Pizza? Get a giant slice"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "for a buck."}, {"start": "02:13:04", "end": "02:13:09", "text": ">> So he had the he had the bag. It it came"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:11", "text": "in like the thinnest bag and he's trying"}, {"start": "02:13:09", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "to throw up in the bag and it's just"}, {"start": "02:13:11", "end": "02:13:16", "text": "it's just a mess. And and he wouldn't"}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "let the bag go because he's because he"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": "said, \"I don't want to litter.\" I'm"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "like, \"Dude, you just ruined the whole"}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "people won't even sit near us.\" And he's"}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "like, \"No, I don't I don't want to"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:30", "text": "litter.\" So he had a soggy vomit soaked"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "bag that he just held on to."}, {"start": "02:13:30", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "That was a good time. Rest in peace. Pat"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:36", "text": "died in the line of duty uh serving"}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:39", "text": "diplomatic secret uh diplomatic service"}, {"start": "02:13:36", "end": "02:13:41", "text": "down in Colombia. So, rest in peace. You"}, {"start": "02:13:39", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "can see his flag is on my wall actually."}, {"start": "02:13:41", "end": "02:13:45", "text": ">> Yeah, I think uh we have a picture of"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:47", "text": "him guarding the Daly Lama on the set."}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:47", "text": ">> We do. We do."}, {"start": "02:13:47", "end": "02:13:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:13:47", "end": "02:13:53", "text": ">> The in fact that the the Dollaly Lama"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "loved Pat so much that whenever he would"}, {"start": "02:13:53", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "come to New York, he always rep"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "requested Pat for uh for personal"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "protection for uh for PPD. always wanted"}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "Pat a good time and and one of the last"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:09", "text": "times I saw it I'm like hey can I can"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:11", "text": "you get me to meet Dolly Lama that'd be"}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "awesome and he's like no man no you"}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "can't no can't meet Dolly Lama"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:18", "text": ">> that's a big ask"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:20", "text": ">> yeah it's I turn it turns out it was a"}, {"start": "02:14:18", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "big ask you know"}, {"start": "02:14:20", "end": "02:14:25", "text": "he's the leader of a billion people he"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "don't want to talk to you"}, {"start": "02:14:25", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "uh the gooses for a five echo is from"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:31", "text": "her not muting stream on her end. Oh,"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:32", "text": "we're doing some tech support. Okay. And"}, {"start": "02:14:31", "end": "02:14:33", "text": "it's coming from the speakers on our"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:35", "text": "mic. She should either mute the live"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "stream or use a headset. No, it wasn't"}, {"start": "02:14:35", "end": "02:14:39", "text": "her fault, Goos. But I appreciate that."}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "It was my fault cuz I I popped in my"}, {"start": "02:14:39", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "earbuds and that screwed up my sound"}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "settings. So, I had to fix it."}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "Tammy spreading the love. Spreading"}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "memberships like a virus."}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:56", "text": "Vegas. It's raining in Summerland."}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:14:59", "text": "I'm check if you're right about that. I"}, {"start": "02:14:56", "end": "02:15:02", "text": "don't think it is. Oh, yeah, it is. It"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "is. Shout out Summerland."}, {"start": "02:15:02", "end": "02:15:07", "text": "Beautiful. Beautiful city."}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:10", "text": "Yeah, I say I'm in Vegas, but I'm not"}, {"start": "02:15:07", "end": "02:15:13", "text": "really in Vegas. I'm in the BBS."}, {"start": "02:15:10", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "I'm in the BBS. Uh there's Army for 10."}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:17", "text": "I need a talking Hecklefish plushy in"}, {"start": "02:15:14", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "Canada. Those are coming. I need this"}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "now. Also, happy new year. Uh love from"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:25", "text": "Canada. Yeah, we love our Canadian fans."}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "uh we haven't shipped to Canada or"}, {"start": "02:15:25", "end": "02:15:31", "text": "overseas because the shipping was so"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "expensive like like stupid expensive."}, {"start": "02:15:31", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "And"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:36", "text": "in the early days of the of the merch"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "store when I was running it myself, I"}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:42", "text": "would see people like I don't know in"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "not even in like a weird country, no"}, {"start": "02:15:42", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "offense if you're in a weird country,"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:48", "text": "but someone in like France would order"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "two shirts for $40 and the shipping"}, {"start": "02:15:48", "end": "02:15:55", "text": "would be $65, $80. Now, nobody"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "complained, but I always felt like if"}, {"start": "02:15:55", "end": "02:16:00", "text": "like it's a scam almost, but we don't"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:03", "text": "the shipping. We don't get that money."}, {"start": "02:16:00", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "That's charged from the t-shirt company."}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:08", "text": "So, I just turned off all outside the US"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "shipping just because I don't want"}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "people to think that I'm scamming. But"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:16", "text": "prices have come down."}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "Uh they're still not great. Uh you know,"}, {"start": "02:16:16", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "it co screwed up everything with with"}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:22", "text": "just it screwed up everything. Uh"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "everything's too expensive now. And the"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "gas prices, hopefully that's coming"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:30", "text": "down. I mean, here in Vegas, I'm seeing"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:32", "text": "269 gas. I haven't seen that in years."}, {"start": "02:16:30", "end": "02:16:34", "text": "Um, so hopefully that's going to get"}, {"start": "02:16:32", "end": "02:16:37", "text": "better. But we do start shipping to"}, {"start": "02:16:34", "end": "02:16:41", "text": "Canada very very soon."}, {"start": "02:16:37", "end": "02:16:41", "text": "Let's pop that down for a second."}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "Well, Gino, I'm going to I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:16:43", "end": "02:16:49", "text": "take a twominut uh break to work on my"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:52", "text": "philosopher stone. If you have if you"}, {"start": "02:16:49", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "want to carry it or I can just drop you"}, {"start": "02:16:52", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "down."}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:16:59", "text": "You want to carry it?"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "All right. Now his m Now his mic is off."}, {"start": "02:17:04", "end": "02:17:10", "text": ">> Captain's log star date 100946.44."}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:11", "text": "The after files live stream has proven"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "itself once again to be extremely"}, {"start": "02:17:11", "end": "02:17:14", "text": "unprofessional."}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:16", "text": ">> Yeah, you're totally muted. So you see"}, {"start": "02:17:14", "end": "02:17:18", "text": "your little face down where where all"}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:20", "text": "the squares are."}, {"start": "02:17:18", "end": "02:17:21", "text": ">> If you watch next to your mic icon,"}, {"start": "02:17:20", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "you'll see the green dots. One, two,"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:26", "text": "three, green."}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "If you ain't green, you ain't seen."}, {"start": "02:17:26", "end": "02:17:28", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:29", "text": ">> How about"}, {"start": "02:17:28", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "built-in mic?"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Now you're fixed."}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:35", "text": ">> And you know what? It doesn't"}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "professional mic."}, {"start": "02:17:35", "end": "02:17:38", "text": ">> If you're on the Mac, you're on your"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:39", "text": "Mac, right?"}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:17:39", "end": "02:17:43", "text": ">> So, the camera's better and this"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:44", "text": "built-in mic is better."}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:45", "text": ">> It is."}, {"start": "02:17:44", "end": "02:17:46", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:47", "text": ">> You look and sound better. All right."}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:49", "text": "I'll be back in a couple of minutes."}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:53", "text": "We're We're going to go through uh we'll"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:57", "text": "do a campfire story. Looks like 86% say"}, {"start": "02:17:53", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "yes. Um, I will start with I'll probably"}, {"start": "02:17:57", "end": "02:18:01", "text": "start with"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:03", "text": "phone calls from the day because that's"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:05", "text": "a pretty good one."}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "All right, I'll see you guys in just a"}, {"start": "02:18:05", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "minute."}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:09", "text": ">> I need some glasses here to read the"}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:10", "text": "chat."}, {"start": "02:18:09", "end": "02:18:13", "text": ">> All right, looking good, Gino. Thanks,"}, {"start": "02:18:10", "end": "02:18:15", "text": "Cynthia. Appreciate it. Uh, let's see."}, {"start": "02:18:13", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "Gino is 5 by five. I'm not sure what"}, {"start": "02:18:15", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "that means, but I'm into it. Um,"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:20", "text": ">> it means they can it means they can hear"}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:21", "text": "you."}, {"start": "02:18:20", "end": "02:18:23", "text": ">> Oh, good."}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:25", "text": "Well, I guess uh you're taking uh us"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:28", "text": "with you to make your philosopher stone."}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "That's great. I'm into that. Um thank"}, {"start": "02:18:28", "end": "02:18:34", "text": "you, uh Saxy Cat. Appreciate the uh the"}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "love there. Happy New Year, Gino. I"}, {"start": "02:18:34", "end": "02:18:39", "text": "appreciate it. Happy New Year to all you"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:41", "text": "guys. Um uh I'm sorry that I don't have"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:43", "text": "a story hour prepared for you, but if"}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:46", "text": "anyone wants to hear any or even suggest"}, {"start": "02:18:43", "end": "02:18:49", "text": "any, I'm always uh looking for for new"}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:51", "text": "stories uh even if they can't become uh"}, {"start": "02:18:49", "end": "02:18:53", "text": "topics. Uh, I'm not gonna drink that Go"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:55", "text": "Girl at New Year's. Uh, I'm still"}, {"start": "02:18:53", "end": "02:18:57", "text": "holding out. You know, something big has"}, {"start": "02:18:55", "end": "02:18:58", "text": "to happen and they're really gonna have"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "to force me to drink that because I'm"}, {"start": "02:18:58", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "probably gonna get sick. I mean I mean"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:08", "text": "we'll we'll see. Um,"}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "uh, Gino Sansvino. Yeah, I'm not a a big"}, {"start": "02:19:08", "end": "02:19:15", "text": "alcohol drinker. So, let's see. Uh, uh,"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:18", "text": "let's see. 5x5 is an army radio uh"}, {"start": "02:19:15", "end": "02:19:22", "text": "thing. Okay, it this chat is so fast."}, {"start": "02:19:18", "end": "02:19:24", "text": "I'm trying to keep up. Um, so thank you,"}, {"start": "02:19:22", "end": "02:19:28", "text": "uh, Truth Archives. I appreciate the"}, {"start": "02:19:24", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "blessings. Uh, uh, Llewellyn saw me on"}, {"start": "02:19:28", "end": "02:19:32", "text": "Carl Crusher's, uh, uh, live. Man, I had"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "a great time with Carl Crusher. I'll"}, {"start": "02:19:32", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "tell you, uh, if you guys aren't aren't"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "watching him, you should. Uh, I went up"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:41", "text": "to Utah with, uh, me, him, and Patrick"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:45", "text": "from uh, Vetted, and we were working on"}, {"start": "02:19:41", "end": "02:19:49", "text": "his Psionics um, uh, on the Psionics uh,"}, {"start": "02:19:45", "end": "02:19:51", "text": "documentary for Vetted. And certainly"}, {"start": "02:19:49", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "while we were with Carl, I witnessed"}, {"start": "02:19:51", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "some really amazing things. We started"}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:19:57", "text": "out in the canyons in Utah. A lot of"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "petroglyphs and and things like that."}, {"start": "02:19:57", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "Petetroglyphs that you see all over the"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:04", "text": "world, the same exact ones. Um, and you"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "could tell the difference between when"}, {"start": "02:20:04", "end": "02:20:08", "text": "they're showing a human and something"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:10", "text": "else. Um, so that was really interesting"}, {"start": "02:20:08", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "with Carl Crusher. Uh, we stayed there"}, {"start": "02:20:10", "end": "02:20:15", "text": "till the evening and, uh, during the"}, {"start": "02:20:13", "end": "02:20:17", "text": "evening we saw a ton of things in the"}, {"start": "02:20:15", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "air. Again, it'll all be in the"}, {"start": "02:20:17", "end": "02:20:20", "text": "documentary. I'm not saying they were"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:23", "text": "all UFOs, but some were pretty"}, {"start": "02:20:20", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "anomalous. Um, and then some other weird"}, {"start": "02:20:23", "end": "02:20:29", "text": "things we saw like he said, you know,"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "this on on the mesa or where I guess it"}, {"start": "02:20:29", "end": "02:20:34", "text": "was a messa we were on. He's like, at"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "night you'll see the whole thing will"}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:39", "text": "start to light up with mysterious"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "lights. And you know, we me and Patrick"}, {"start": "02:20:39", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "kind of, you know, nodded to each other"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "like, okay, we'll see. And sure enough,"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "it happened. I mean, they weren't like"}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "super bright, you know, lights, but you"}, {"start": "02:20:48", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "were looking at it going, \"Yeah, there's"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:54", "text": "a green mist all over this all over this"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "messa that just wasn't there 10 minutes"}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "ago.\" Um, so really interesting. A lot"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:01", "text": "of the stuff that we saw up there in"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "Utah and um you guys should all check"}, {"start": "02:21:01", "end": "02:21:08", "text": "out uh his psionics documentary coming"}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "out um in a few months."}, {"start": "02:21:08", "end": "02:21:13", "text": ">> Who are we talking about?"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:15", "text": ">> Uh Patrick Armstrong from Vetted. me and"}, {"start": "02:21:13", "end": "02:21:19", "text": "him went up to Utah, uh we were working"}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "with Carl Carl Crusher, um who u works"}, {"start": "02:21:19", "end": "02:21:26", "text": "uh with um a lot of the guys uh that are"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:31", "text": "like summoning UFOs"}, {"start": "02:21:26", "end": "02:21:31", "text": "or orbs, I guess we would say."}, {"start": "02:21:31", "end": "02:21:34", "text": ">> Who do we have coming on that summons"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:38", "text": "orbs?"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:41", "text": ">> Uh Chris Bledsoe. So Chris, really"}, {"start": "02:21:38", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "amazing guy. Uh I I got to see him do"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "some some uh summoning personally and"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "again uh I can't say for sure I'm"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "looking at aliens or anything like that"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "and he's not going to tell you it's"}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:55", "text": "aliens. Um he just thinks that these"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "orbs that he's able to summon through"}, {"start": "02:21:55", "end": "02:22:03", "text": "prayer, it is through prayer um for him."}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "Uh that they show up and certainly uh"}, {"start": "02:22:03", "end": "02:22:07", "text": "the government has been interested,"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:10", "text": "generals have been out there uh"}, {"start": "02:22:07", "end": "02:22:13", "text": "witnessing it. the phenomenon um while"}, {"start": "02:22:10", "end": "02:22:16", "text": "he's doing it. NASA, Tim Tim Taylor, um,"}, {"start": "02:22:13", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "uh, a lot of, you know, high-end people"}, {"start": "02:22:16", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "are witnessing his phenomena and he has"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "a a a prophecy that was, uh, downloaded"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "to him that, uh, during Easter uh, in"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:33", "text": "Egypt under the gaze of the Sphinx um,"}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:36", "text": "one of the stars, Regulus, will turn a"}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:39", "text": "different color and that shifts us into"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:41", "text": "a new state."}, {"start": "02:22:39", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "All right. He's gonna be interesting."}, {"start": "02:22:41", "end": "02:22:45", "text": ">> Yeah. And he's really a nice nice"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "person."}, {"start": "02:22:45", "end": "02:22:49", "text": ">> All right. We'll roll a campfire story"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "now. I'll read it live. So, excuse my"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "mistakes. Gina, I'm going to drop you"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "down for a bit."}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:59", "text": "And uh what are we at here? We're at"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:03", "text": "We're just under an hour for the ball to"}, {"start": "02:22:59", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "drop. So, if you like the story, we'll"}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "run another poll to see if you want to"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "hear another one."}, {"start": "02:23:09", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "This is phone calls from the dead."}, {"start": "02:23:13", "end": "02:23:18", "text": "Campfire story. Campfire is coming out"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "this week."}, {"start": "02:23:18", "end": "02:23:26", "text": "Gather out. This happened. September"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:28", "text": "12th, 2008. The 4:22 p.m. Metroink left"}, {"start": "02:23:26", "end": "02:23:30", "text": "Union Station packed with commuters."}, {"start": "02:23:28", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "Charles Peek stood in the aisle of the"}, {"start": "02:23:30", "end": "02:23:35", "text": "front car. He was 49 years old. He"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:38", "text": "texted his fianceé, Andrea, I'm almost"}, {"start": "02:23:35", "end": "02:23:38", "text": "there."}, {"start": "02:23:38", "end": "02:23:41", "text": "That was the last message he ever sent."}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:43", "text": "Minutes later, the commuter train"}, {"start": "02:23:41", "end": "02:23:45", "text": "slammed head-on into a Union Pacific"}, {"start": "02:23:43", "end": "02:23:49", "text": "freight train. Both traveling over 40"}, {"start": "02:23:45", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "mph, combined impact speed, 80 mph."}, {"start": "02:23:49", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "Charles Peek died instantly. 12 hours"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:56", "text": "later, his family sat in the living room"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:23:58", "text": "watching the news footage of the"}, {"start": "02:23:56", "end": "02:24:04", "text": "wreckage. Then, Andrea's phone lit up on"}, {"start": "02:23:58", "end": "02:24:04", "text": "the table. The caller ID, said Charles."}, {"start": "02:24:07", "end": "02:24:11", "text": "We think of telephones as everyday"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:13", "text": "things, plastic and glass, good for"}, {"start": "02:24:11", "end": "02:24:15", "text": "ordering pizza or doom scrolling through"}, {"start": "02:24:13", "end": "02:24:17", "text": "social media. But since their invention,"}, {"start": "02:24:15", "end": "02:24:19", "text": "people suspected they could serve"}, {"start": "02:24:17", "end": "02:24:21", "text": "another purpose. Nicola Tesla built a"}, {"start": "02:24:19", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "radio to reach the spirit world. Thomas"}, {"start": "02:24:21", "end": "02:24:25", "text": "Edison believed he could do the same. He"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:28", "text": "called it a spirit phone, a device to"}, {"start": "02:24:25", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "bridge this world and the next. In 1920,"}, {"start": "02:24:28", "end": "02:24:33", "text": "Edison told Scientific American he'd"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:35", "text": "been working on an apparatus to see if"}, {"start": "02:24:33", "end": "02:24:37", "text": "it's possible for personalities which"}, {"start": "02:24:35", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "have left this earth to communicate with"}, {"start": "02:24:37", "end": "02:24:43", "text": "us. He died in 1931 without completing"}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "it, or so his assistant said. But these"}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "calls do happen. In 1979, researchers"}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:51", "text": "published the first comprehensive study"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:54", "text": "of phone calls from the dead. They"}, {"start": "02:24:51", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "documented over 100 cases. 72% occurred"}, {"start": "02:24:54", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "within 24 hours of death. 89% featured"}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:04", "text": "heavy static or poor connection quality"}, {"start": "02:25:00", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "and 94% described voices as distant,"}, {"start": "02:25:04", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "mechanical, or hollow. The average call"}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "duration was 6 to 15 seconds. The"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:15", "text": "pattern was clear and the calls were"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:18", "text": "real. But were they messages from beyond"}, {"start": "02:25:15", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "or something else? Sometimes the dead"}, {"start": "02:25:18", "end": "02:25:23", "text": "call to say goodbye. Sometimes they call"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "with a warning. Dean Coun is famous for"}, {"start": "02:25:23", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "writing horror novels, but his most"}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:29", "text": "terrifying story is one that he lived."}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:32", "text": "Kun was in his home office on a Tuesday"}, {"start": "02:25:29", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "afternoon in 1988, working alone in a"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:36", "text": "quiet house. The phone rang, an unlisted"}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:38", "text": "number. He picked it up and heard that"}, {"start": "02:25:36", "end": "02:25:41", "text": "heavy rhythmic static crackling through"}, {"start": "02:25:38", "end": "02:25:43", "text": "the receiver. Then a woman's voice cut"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:46", "text": "through the noise. It was faint but"}, {"start": "02:25:43", "end": "02:25:47", "text": "distinct. It sounded exactly like his"}, {"start": "02:25:46", "end": "02:25:50", "text": "mother. His mother had been dead for"}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:52", "text": "over a decade. Co didn't speak. He"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:25:55", "text": "couldn't. The voice didn't say hello. It"}, {"start": "02:25:52", "end": "02:25:58", "text": "didn't ask how he was doing. It said"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "only one thing repeated in a flat tone."}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "Be careful, Dean. Be careful. And it"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:04", "text": "didn't sound like a recording. It"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "sounded like a transmission from"}, {"start": "02:26:04", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "somewhere else. And then the lion went"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:10", "text": "dead. Two days later, Kun uh was"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:12", "text": "visiting his father at a mental care"}, {"start": "02:26:10", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "facility. His father suffered from"}, {"start": "02:26:12", "end": "02:26:16", "text": "dementia. Coun walked into the room and"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:19", "text": "his father looked at him, reached into a"}, {"start": "02:26:16", "end": "02:26:21", "text": "drawer, and pulled out a knife. The"}, {"start": "02:26:19", "end": "02:26:24", "text": "blade was 8 in long and razor sharp. His"}, {"start": "02:26:21", "end": "02:26:26", "text": "father lunged and tried to stab him. Co"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "caught his father's wrist inches from"}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:30", "text": "his chest. His father was 73 years old,"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:33", "text": "but fought like a man possessed. It took"}, {"start": "02:26:30", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "three orderlys to pull them apart. Co"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:36", "text": "wrestled the knife away. He subdued his"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "father without getting hurt. If he"}, {"start": "02:26:36", "end": "02:26:41", "text": "hadn't been on edge, if he hadn't been"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:43", "text": "warned, he might not have reacted fast"}, {"start": "02:26:41", "end": "02:26:44", "text": "enough. His mother reached across"}, {"start": "02:26:43", "end": "02:26:47", "text": "whatever separates the living from the"}, {"start": "02:26:44", "end": "02:26:50", "text": "dead to save her son's life. But Charles"}, {"start": "02:26:47", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "Pek wasn't calling to warn anyone. He"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:54", "text": "wasn't calling to say goodbye. He was"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:59", "text": "calling to lead them somewhere."}, {"start": "02:26:54", "end": "02:27:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:26:59", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "The Chadzsworth crash was the deadliest"}, {"start": "02:27:01", "end": "02:27:05", "text": "train accident in California history. I"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:07", "text": "lived in LA at the time and I remember"}, {"start": "02:27:05", "end": "02:27:10", "text": "it. The impact fused the trains together"}, {"start": "02:27:07", "end": "02:27:12", "text": "into a single mass of twisted steel."}, {"start": "02:27:10", "end": "02:27:15", "text": "Fires burned for hours. Thick black"}, {"start": "02:27:12", "end": "02:27:17", "text": "smoke was visible for 20 m. 2,500"}, {"start": "02:27:15", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "gallons of diesel fuel leaked from"}, {"start": "02:27:17", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "ruptured tanks. The smell of burning"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:24", "text": "plastic and diesel reached Northridge 6"}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:26", "text": "miles away. Andrea was at the station"}, {"start": "02:27:24", "end": "02:27:27", "text": "waiting for Charles when the news broke."}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "She drove to the crash site, but police"}, {"start": "02:27:27", "end": "02:27:31", "text": "held her back. She joined his parents,"}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "his brother, his sister, and his"}, {"start": "02:27:31", "end": "02:27:35", "text": "stepmother in a waiting area. They sat"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "in that room for hours, terrified,"}, {"start": "02:27:35", "end": "02:27:40", "text": "terrified, waiting for the survivor"}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "list. Then they were waiting for the"}, {"start": "02:27:40", "end": "02:27:44", "text": "list of the dead. And then in the middle"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "of that silence, Andrew's phone rang."}, {"start": "02:27:44", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "She looked at the screen. Charles. The"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "room went still. She grabbed the phone"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:55", "text": "with shaking hands and pressed answer."}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:57", "text": "Charles, baby, are you there? She"}, {"start": "02:27:55", "end": "02:28:00", "text": "expected a voice, a cry for help."}, {"start": "02:27:57", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "Anything. She got static. That low"}, {"start": "02:28:00", "end": "02:28:04", "text": "rhythmic hum like wind blowing through a"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:07", "text": "long tunnel or someone trying to breathe"}, {"start": "02:28:04", "end": "02:28:09", "text": "through damaged lungs. The call lasted 6"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "seconds, then it dropped. The family"}, {"start": "02:28:09", "end": "02:28:14", "text": "stared at each other. Pocket dial"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "glitch. Well, 5 minutes later, it"}, {"start": "02:28:14", "end": "02:28:22", "text": "happened again. This time, Charles son"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "rang. Caller ID. Dad. He answered, \"Dad,"}, {"start": "02:28:22", "end": "02:28:28", "text": "where are you?\" Static. Heavy hollow"}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "silence. Then the line went dead. Then"}, {"start": "02:28:28", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "his brother's phone rang. Then his"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:34", "text": "stepmother's. For the next 11 hours,"}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "Charles phone launched a desperate"}, {"start": "02:28:34", "end": "02:28:38", "text": "campaign. It called everyone he loved,"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "his fianceé, his parents, his siblings,"}, {"start": "02:28:38", "end": "02:28:43", "text": "his children. 35 separate calls. Each"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:44", "text": "time they answered, each time they"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:46", "text": "screamed into the receiver, begging him"}, {"start": "02:28:44", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "to speak, begging him to tell them where"}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:51", "text": "he was. And each time they got that"}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "strange hollow static. Well, to the"}, {"start": "02:28:51", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "family, this meant one thing. Charles"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:57", "text": "was alive. He survived the crash. He was"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:29:00", "text": "trapped in the wreckage, maybe pinned,"}, {"start": "02:28:57", "end": "02:29:02", "text": "maybe injured too badly to speak, but he"}, {"start": "02:29:00", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "was conscious. He was holding his phone"}, {"start": "02:29:02", "end": "02:29:07", "text": "and he was pressing send. He was telling"}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:09", "text": "them he was still there. The family ran"}, {"start": "02:29:07", "end": "02:29:10", "text": "to the police station and shoved their"}, {"start": "02:29:09", "end": "02:29:12", "text": "phones in the officer's faces. It was"}, {"start": "02:29:10", "end": "02:29:14", "text": "still ringing. He's calling us. They"}, {"start": "02:29:12", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "said, \"Look, he's calling right now.\""}, {"start": "02:29:14", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "Well, this changed the entire operation."}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "Before the calls, firefighters worked in"}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:23", "text": "recovery mode. They assumed everyone in"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "the front car was dead. So, they moved"}, {"start": "02:29:23", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "carefully, treating the wreckage as a"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:29", "text": "crime scene. But if a survivor was"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:32", "text": "calling out, this was now a rescue"}, {"start": "02:29:29", "end": "02:29:35", "text": "mission. The fire chief redirected 250"}, {"start": "02:29:32", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "firefighters to the site. 50 paramedics"}, {"start": "02:29:35", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "stood by. They brought cutting"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "equipment, jacks, cranes. Over 100 tons"}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "of steel had to be moved piece by piece"}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:46", "text": "without causing further uh further"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "collapse. Police contacted Verizon and"}, {"start": "02:29:46", "end": "02:29:51", "text": "traced the signal. Every call came from"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:52", "text": "PC's phone. Every ping came from the"}, {"start": "02:29:51", "end": "02:29:54", "text": "same location. The phone was"}, {"start": "02:29:52", "end": "02:29:57", "text": "broadcasting from the epicenter of the"}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "disaster, the lead passenger car,"}, {"start": "02:29:57", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "crushed to half its original size. The"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:04", "text": "firefighters went back in. This work was"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:06", "text": "dangerous. Wreckage twisted under"}, {"start": "02:30:04", "end": "02:30:08", "text": "immense pressure, fire still smoldering,"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "and the air thick with smoke and the"}, {"start": "02:30:08", "end": "02:30:13", "text": "stench of burning plastic and diesel."}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:15", "text": "But they had a target now. They cut"}, {"start": "02:30:13", "end": "02:30:17", "text": "through the steel. They lifted heavy"}, {"start": "02:30:15", "end": "02:30:19", "text": "debris. And every time the phone rang,"}, {"start": "02:30:17", "end": "02:30:22", "text": "they got a fresh ping. The signal guided"}, {"start": "02:30:19", "end": "02:30:25", "text": "them through tons of twisted metal. 35"}, {"start": "02:30:22", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "calls, 35 pings. The rescue team worked"}, {"start": "02:30:25", "end": "02:30:30", "text": "through the night exhausted, running on"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:33", "text": "adrenaline and hope. At 3:28 a.m., 12"}, {"start": "02:30:30", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "hours after the crash, the call stopped."}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "The phone battery probably died or"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "Charles passed out. But it didn't"}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:42", "text": "matter. They had his location. 1 hour"}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:44", "text": "later, just before dawn, they broke"}, {"start": "02:30:42", "end": "02:30:46", "text": "through the final layer of debris. They"}, {"start": "02:30:44", "end": "02:30:49", "text": "aimed their flashlights into the crushed"}, {"start": "02:30:46", "end": "02:30:51", "text": "car. The beam hit a man in a seat. It"}, {"start": "02:30:49", "end": "02:30:53", "text": "was Charles, and he didn't look injured."}, {"start": "02:30:51", "end": "02:30:56", "text": "Unconscious, maybe. For a second, they"}, {"start": "02:30:53", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "thought they'd pulled off a miracle."}, {"start": "02:30:56", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "They didn't."}, {"start": "02:31:01", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "The rescue team rushed to him. Charles"}, {"start": "02:31:04", "end": "02:31:07", "text": "was still strapped into his seat, not"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:10", "text": "pinned by machinery, not trapped under"}, {"start": "02:31:07", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "rubble. He didn't look hurt at all. They"}, {"start": "02:31:10", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "reached out and checked for a pulse. His"}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:17", "text": "skin was cold. Charles Peek was dead and"}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:19", "text": "had been for a while. The injuries were"}, {"start": "02:31:17", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "catastrophic. His chest was crushed. His"}, {"start": "02:31:19", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "spine was severed. Massive internal"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:25", "text": "bleeding. His heart stopped instantly"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:28", "text": "when the trains collided. The crash"}, {"start": "02:31:25", "end": "02:31:31", "text": "occurred at 4:22 p.m. Charles Peek died"}, {"start": "02:31:28", "end": "02:31:33", "text": "at 4:22 p.m. According to the medical"}, {"start": "02:31:31", "end": "02:31:35", "text": "examiner, brain function ceased the"}, {"start": "02:31:33", "end": "02:31:38", "text": "moment of impact. No suffering, no"}, {"start": "02:31:35", "end": "02:31:40", "text": "waiting for rescue, just instantaneous"}, {"start": "02:31:38", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "death. He was dead 12 hours before they"}, {"start": "02:31:40", "end": "02:31:44", "text": "found him. He was dead before the first"}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:46", "text": "call to Andrea. He was dead for the call"}, {"start": "02:31:44", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "to his son, the call to his brother, the"}, {"start": "02:31:46", "end": "02:31:50", "text": "call to his stepmother, dead for every"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:52", "text": "single one of the calls that guided the"}, {"start": "02:31:50", "end": "02:31:54", "text": "rescue team through the wreck. Now, the"}, {"start": "02:31:52", "end": "02:31:56", "text": "comfortable explanation is technical"}, {"start": "02:31:54", "end": "02:31:59", "text": "glitch. Maybe the impact shortcircuited"}, {"start": "02:31:56", "end": "02:32:01", "text": "the phone. Maybe damaged wiring caused"}, {"start": "02:31:59", "end": "02:32:03", "text": "it to randomly dial contacts from his"}, {"start": "02:32:01", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "favorites list over and over for 11"}, {"start": "02:32:03", "end": "02:32:07", "text": "hours."}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:09", "text": "But there's a problem with that story."}, {"start": "02:32:07", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "When firefighters found Charles, they"}, {"start": "02:32:09", "end": "02:32:13", "text": "wanted to secure his personal effects,"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:15", "text": "especially the phone that guided the"}, {"start": "02:32:13", "end": "02:32:17", "text": "entire rescue operation. They checked"}, {"start": "02:32:15", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "his pockets, empty. They checked the"}, {"start": "02:32:17", "end": "02:32:22", "text": "floor around his seat, the seat pockets,"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:24", "text": "the debris within arms reach. No phone."}, {"start": "02:32:22", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "They expanded the search, sifted through"}, {"start": "02:32:24", "end": "02:32:27", "text": "wreckage in every direction. They"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:30", "text": "checked unders seats in overhead"}, {"start": "02:32:27", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "compartments beneath debris. No phone."}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:33", "text": "They swept the area with metal"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:35", "text": "detectors. They photographed every piece"}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:37", "text": "of wreckage before moving it. Standard"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:39", "text": "protocol for securing evidence. They"}, {"start": "02:32:37", "end": "02:32:42", "text": "found his wallet. They found his keys."}, {"start": "02:32:39", "end": "02:32:45", "text": "They never found the phone. The device"}, {"start": "02:32:42", "end": "02:32:47", "text": "that made 35 calls over 11 hours. The"}, {"start": "02:32:45", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "device that pinged cell towers and"}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:50", "text": "transmitted a signal strong enough to"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "guide a rescue team through the wreckage"}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:54", "text": "was gone. It wasn't in his hand. It"}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "wasn't in his pocket. It wasn't anywhere"}, {"start": "02:32:54", "end": "02:32:59", "text": "in the car. The signal came from his"}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "seat, but the source didn't exist."}, {"start": "02:32:59", "end": "02:33:04", "text": "Charles Peek died instantly. No pulse,"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:06", "text": "no brain activity, no phone. Yet, for 11"}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "hours, he reached out. He called the"}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:12", "text": "woman he was going to marry. He called"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:12", "text": "the children he was"}, {"start": "02:33:14", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "Once they did, he hung up. Now, we want"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "to we want to believe that when we die,"}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:24", "text": "we leave this world completely. But"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:26", "text": "stories like this make you wonder if the"}, {"start": "02:33:24", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "connection is ever fully severed. Maybe"}, {"start": "02:33:26", "end": "02:33:32", "text": "in the static between stations, a signal"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:34", "text": "still gets through. So, tonight before"}, {"start": "02:33:32", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "you go to sleep, check your phone. Make"}, {"start": "02:33:34", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "sure it's charged. Make sure the volume"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:40", "text": "is on. Because if it rings in the middle"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "of the night and the caller ID shows a"}, {"start": "02:33:40", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "name you haven't seen in years, don't be"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "afraid. Answer it. They might need your"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "help or you might need theirs."}, {"start": "02:33:53", "end": "02:33:57", "text": "That's a campfire story, everybody."}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "Andrew enjoy the story. I'm glad you"}, {"start": "02:33:59", "end": "02:34:05", "text": "did. I like that one, too. That's one of"}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:05", "text": "my favorites."}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:13", "text": "Cora creepy makes you wonder. Yes. So,"}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:16", "text": "all the stories I'm picking are true and"}, {"start": "02:34:13", "end": "02:34:17", "text": "unsolved. Now, there may be u Thank you"}, {"start": "02:34:16", "end": "02:34:20", "text": "for that, coconut. I'm glad you guys"}, {"start": "02:34:17", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "enjoyed the story. Um I'll I'll run into"}, {"start": "02:34:20", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "the poll to see if you want to do"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "another one."}, {"start": "02:34:30", "end": "02:34:36", "text": "It's unfortunately"}, {"start": "02:34:32", "end": "02:34:37", "text": "or fortunately for you guys."}, {"start": "02:34:36", "end": "02:34:39", "text": "That was a better reading than I did"}, {"start": "02:34:37", "end": "02:34:43", "text": "when I when I shot it last night because"}, {"start": "02:34:39", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "I I can't do these things on no sleep."}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:48", "text": "Ah, glad you liked it. Colt,"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:50", "text": "you're supposed to have a flashlight"}, {"start": "02:34:48", "end": "02:34:52", "text": "under your nose for campfire stories. I"}, {"start": "02:34:50", "end": "02:34:53", "text": "tried to make the set kind of creepy. I"}, {"start": "02:34:52", "end": "02:34:55", "text": "I actually tried the lighting"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:34:57", "text": "underneath, but it was not. It was so"}, {"start": "02:34:55", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "unflattering. Like it wasn't scary. It"}, {"start": "02:34:57", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "was more like gh. Um, but I tried to"}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "make the set kind of dark, kind of"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:07", "text": "creepy. And each story I do from a"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:09", "text": "different location in the basement. So,"}, {"start": "02:35:07", "end": "02:35:11", "text": "kind of mix it up a little bit. And I"}, {"start": "02:35:09", "end": "02:35:14", "text": "think we'll probably release these I'm"}, {"start": "02:35:11", "end": "02:35:16", "text": "going to release these as solos."}, {"start": "02:35:14", "end": "02:35:18", "text": "I don't know when we'll do that, but for"}, {"start": "02:35:16", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "now, we're going to do three in an"}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:21", "text": "episode. So, you'll get three campfires"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "in a in a go. and I'm going to try and"}, {"start": "02:35:21", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "group them together so that they're sort"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "of the same theme. So, I picked three"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:30", "text": "kind of spooky"}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:32", "text": "ghost stories like these and three"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:35", "text": "internet mysteries which I thought are"}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:35", "text": "kind of fun."}, {"start": "02:35:35", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "So, like maybe I'll I can do the heart"}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "of Sunny Graham next is a creepy one. I"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:44", "text": "can't really do unfavorable semicircle"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "because you need to you need video for"}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "that. Um, Village of the Dead. I can do"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:52", "text": "Black Eyed Kids. I don't love. I'm not"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "going to do that one tonight. And then"}, {"start": "02:35:52", "end": "02:35:55", "text": "we we've got Rayman, man. We'll keep"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "those there. So, I got"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "we've got uh three in the hopper if you"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:03", "text": "want them. Hey, thanks. No one"}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "important. Appreciate you."}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:07", "text": "Uh B. Kelly says it's good concept. I"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "think so,"}, {"start": "02:36:07", "end": "02:36:12", "text": "but I don't know. I'm always wrong. Um"}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:13", "text": "I'll release something that I think is"}, {"start": "02:36:12", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "great and everybody's going to love and"}, {"start": "02:36:13", "end": "02:36:17", "text": "it just tanks and then I'll release"}, {"start": "02:36:15", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "something that I'm like, it's fine and"}, {"start": "02:36:17", "end": "02:36:22", "text": "then it does very well. So, I don't I I"}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "still can't figure it out. So, I'll just"}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "keep doing the topics you send in and"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:29", "text": "some will hit, some some won't. Hustle,"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:31", "text": "I'm glad you enjoyed the story. See, it"}, {"start": "02:36:29", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "wasn't too long, not too painful. I"}, {"start": "02:36:31", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "don't know what that ran 6 minutes, 7"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:37", "text": "minutes,"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:39", "text": "and I promise the uh the plugs at the"}, {"start": "02:36:37", "end": "02:36:41", "text": "end. I'm I'm doing my best to keep those"}, {"start": "02:36:39", "end": "02:36:43", "text": "shorter so we don't have these 10-minute"}, {"start": "02:36:41", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "outros. Uh you'll see me just like"}, {"start": "02:36:43", "end": "02:36:48", "text": "plowing through it, just just mumbling"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "my way. Intergalactic. I could do"}, {"start": "02:36:48", "end": "02:36:54", "text": "Blackeyed Kids. I could do it. I don't"}, {"start": "02:36:52", "end": "02:36:56", "text": "love it though. And I feel like it needs"}, {"start": "02:36:54", "end": "02:36:58", "text": "some visuals because I I have some"}, {"start": "02:36:56", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "creepy visuals of Blackeyed Kids, but"}, {"start": "02:36:58", "end": "02:37:03", "text": "I'll I'll I'll pop it up there in the uh"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "in the on deck circle if we want it."}, {"start": "02:37:03", "end": "02:37:07", "text": "Hustler, you want Rainman? That's a"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:08", "text": "creepy story."}, {"start": "02:37:07", "end": "02:37:10", "text": "Thanks, Stephanie. You're very nice. All"}, {"start": "02:37:08", "end": "02:37:13", "text": "right, let's we'll do a couple of super"}, {"start": "02:37:10", "end": "02:37:13", "text": "chats"}, {"start": "02:37:13", "end": "02:37:19", "text": "and see how that how that uh how that"}, {"start": "02:37:15", "end": "02:37:21", "text": "poll goes. I mean, look, I I don't know"}, {"start": "02:37:19", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "if it's a coincidence, but during the"}, {"start": "02:37:21", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "reading, we picked up the thousand new"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "viewers,"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "which is interesting, but that happens"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "every time. That that used to happen"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "last time as well. I just want to see"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:35", "text": "who that I don't know who that is"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "singing. I don't know who that is. What"}, {"start": "02:37:35", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "are we at? We're tminus. We're at 42"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "minutes to the ball."}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:43", "text": "Evil Air, happy new year. Waiting on a"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:46", "text": "new year. Weird and wonderful"}, {"start": "02:37:43", "end": "02:37:48", "text": "storytelling. always have you on the uh"}, {"start": "02:37:46", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "on in the shop while I work. Thanks,"}, {"start": "02:37:48", "end": "02:37:53", "text": "man. Appreciate you,"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "Brian. Thank you for the super sticker."}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:58", "text": "There's the googs again. Oh, we got the"}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:38:00", "text": "googs already, which means I'm behind."}, {"start": "02:37:58", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "Let me"}, {"start": "02:38:00", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "clear some of those out."}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:10", "text": "Uh Matt, uh hi from York. Should visit"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:12", "text": "UK sometime. It's on my list."}, {"start": "02:38:10", "end": "02:38:14", "text": "It's on my list. I'd like to go up up"}, {"start": "02:38:12", "end": "02:38:16", "text": "there, stay in a small village. Uh, I"}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:16", "text": "would check out London and the normal"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:18", "text": "sites because I've never been to"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:19", "text": "England. I've been to other parts of"}, {"start": "02:38:18", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "Europe, but never England. I'd check out"}, {"start": "02:38:19", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "the sites, but I'm really would like to"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:25", "text": "just"}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:28", "text": "stay in a small village somewhere with"}, {"start": "02:38:25", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "that has just the one pub and just go up"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "to the pub every day."}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:35", "text": "Sounds peaceful."}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:42", "text": "Javier, saludos from Jav in Chiua. Good"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "to see you, my friend."}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:46", "text": "I have family down there."}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "There is Yeah, I have family in Mexico."}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "That's why I feel I can get away with"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:57", "text": "anything. I part of my family is"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:38:59", "text": "Mexican. Part of my family's Jewish,"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:02", "text": "Italians, mix. I feel like I could say"}, {"start": "02:38:59", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "whatever I want, right? I I try to be"}, {"start": "02:39:02", "end": "02:39:06", "text": "careful, but you know, it's all love."}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "There's Cara. Wish you all and the wife"}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "files uh the best new year to come. I do"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "this channel. You saved me at work with"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:16", "text": "the 24 channels. seriously thank you."}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:18", "text": "You're very welcome. Uh that wasn't my"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:22", "text": "idea. That was a Patreon member during"}, {"start": "02:39:18", "end": "02:39:25", "text": "one of our streams said that I should do"}, {"start": "02:39:22", "end": "02:39:26", "text": "that. Just run the episodes 24/7 back"}, {"start": "02:39:25", "end": "02:39:30", "text": "toback and I was like, who would watch"}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:33", "text": "that? Uh turns out thousands of people"}, {"start": "02:39:30", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "do. I'm grateful for that. Uh it's a lot"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:37", "text": "of fun. There's a whole community over"}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:40", "text": "there. Not Lauren knows what I'm talking"}, {"start": "02:39:37", "end": "02:39:44", "text": "about. She she runs things over there."}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:46", "text": "Hey Maddie, I see you."}, {"start": "02:39:44", "end": "02:39:47", "text": "Chris, hey AJ, I'm a veteran and want to"}, {"start": "02:39:46", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "spend Thank you for your service, sir. I"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:50", "text": "want to spend money on your stuff. My"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:52", "text": "wife and I love your channel and send"}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:53", "text": "our love. I appreciate that. Chris, you"}, {"start": "02:39:52", "end": "02:39:55", "text": "can grab something for the Wi-Fi store."}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:58", "text": "I think I'm going to set up a coupon"}, {"start": "02:39:55", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "code for uh for vets."}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:03", "text": "I've been thinking about that"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:04", "text": "uh for vets and first responders."}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:07", "text": "You know, my family's full of those"}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:09", "text": "folks."}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:12", "text": "Jeremy, I don't think his phone was ever"}, {"start": "02:40:09", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "found. It might have been, you know, um,"}, {"start": "02:40:12", "end": "02:40:15", "text": "for each of the stories, I did a quick"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:18", "text": "search to see if they're really"}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "unsolved, and I couldn't find that they"}, {"start": "02:40:18", "end": "02:40:23", "text": "were,"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:25", "text": "but maybe they were. It's more about the"}, {"start": "02:40:23", "end": "02:40:26", "text": "story, you know, like with with the"}, {"start": "02:40:25", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "basement with people who are going to"}, {"start": "02:40:26", "end": "02:40:32", "text": "tell crazy stuff. Let's just hear the"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "story that rather than try to dig into"}, {"start": "02:40:32", "end": "02:40:37", "text": "whether what's true or not. You you can"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "decide what you want to believe. For the"}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:42", "text": "most part, if you got a crazy story,"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:43", "text": "let's hear it. You know, Billy Carson, I"}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:45", "text": "don't believe anything that man says,"}, {"start": "02:40:43", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "but he tells a story. So, let's talk to"}, {"start": "02:40:45", "end": "02:40:51", "text": "Billy. I'm not going to be rude."}, {"start": "02:40:48", "end": "02:40:54", "text": "We'll talk to the guys at Gaia. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:40:51", "end": "02:40:56", "text": "I I I think Gino knows the owner or the"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "or the founder of Gaia. I hope he"}, {"start": "02:40:56", "end": "02:41:00", "text": "doesn't know that. You do, Gino? I I"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:01", "text": "hope he doesn't know that every time I"}, {"start": "02:41:00", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "mention Gaia, I say if it's on Gaia,"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "it's bunk."}, {"start": "02:41:05", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "FTH of fourth Scotland is where I want"}, {"start": "02:41:07", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "to go, says Jim. All right, I appreciate"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:13", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:15", "text": "I don't want to go where the tourists"}, {"start": "02:41:13", "end": "02:41:17", "text": "are, but I also don't want to go where"}, {"start": "02:41:15", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "where they hate Americans because look,"}, {"start": "02:41:17", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "I've been to Europe. I know people hate"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "Americans. Not everybody. Not everybody."}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:27", "text": "I mean, Italians were the best. Uh, but"}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:32", "text": "I was with a large group of people,"}, {"start": "02:41:27", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "mostly young women, so they were very"}, {"start": "02:41:32", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "nice to us."}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:37", "text": "Harley says, \"Are we doing this now?\""}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "Yeah, we do this. It's not professional,"}, {"start": "02:41:37", "end": "02:41:41", "text": "but we do it."}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:44", "text": ">> Do I watch the After Files live stream"}, {"start": "02:41:41", "end": "02:41:46", "text": "or do I punch myself in the face? Tough"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:48", "text": "decision."}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:52", "text": ">> PC, thank you for the 10. Happy New Year"}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:52", "text": "to you. Appreciate the support."}, {"start": "02:41:54", "end": "02:41:59", "text": "And we've got"}, {"start": "02:41:56", "end": "02:42:02", "text": "CW LPFOC."}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "Wow. For 50 bucks."}, {"start": "02:42:02", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:10", "text": ">> You like this show?"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "Send me."}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:42:14", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "I hope you know about that."}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "There is one"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "of you."}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:33", "text": "Won't you tip me with some money?"}, {"start": "02:42:31", "end": "02:42:35", "text": "Hey, fishy."}, {"start": "02:42:33", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "Fishy"}, {"start": "02:42:35", "end": "02:42:41", "text": "fishy."}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:45", "text": "Don't you know you got to tip the fishy?"}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:48", "text": "Hey, tip the fishy."}, {"start": "02:42:45", "end": "02:42:51", "text": ">> Tip the fishy tonight."}, {"start": "02:42:48", "end": "02:42:54", "text": "Happy new year, sir or ma'am. Appreciate"}, {"start": "02:42:51", "end": "02:42:54", "text": "the support."}, {"start": "02:42:56", "end": "02:43:00", "text": "Uh, start here. Thank you. Uh, I was the"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:02", "text": "one who sent you the convincing alien"}, {"start": "02:43:00", "end": "02:43:04", "text": "moon base picture. How did it disappear"}, {"start": "02:43:02", "end": "02:43:07", "text": "from your inbox? It should still be"}, {"start": "02:43:04", "end": "02:43:09", "text": "there. I have to look for it. Um, team"}, {"start": "02:43:07", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "at the Y files is the best way to email"}, {"start": "02:43:09", "end": "02:43:14", "text": "because we check that. If you email me"}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:17", "text": "directly, it's it's kind of like the"}, {"start": "02:43:14", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "chats. If I see it, it's more luck"}, {"start": "02:43:17", "end": "02:43:22", "text": "because I get a lot of email, mostly"}, {"start": "02:43:20", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "spam, I guess, because my email is"}, {"start": "02:43:22", "end": "02:43:27", "text": "pretty public. So, I'll look at it, but"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:28", "text": "I don't scroll. I just look to see if"}, {"start": "02:43:27", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "there's anything there. And then, and"}, {"start": "02:43:28", "end": "02:43:34", "text": "that's I check my email, I don't know,"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "once every few days."}, {"start": "02:43:34", "end": "02:43:39", "text": "Not all that often."}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:40", "text": "It drives Jen nuts, but you know, I"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "won't check my phone for a couple of"}, {"start": "02:43:40", "end": "02:43:44", "text": "days. Sometimes I don't even know where"}, {"start": "02:43:41", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "my phone is,"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:49", "text": "you know. She's like, \"How do you how"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "can you not look at Instagram all day?\""}, {"start": "02:43:49", "end": "02:43:51", "text": "I don't know. I don't even have it"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "installed. What? Am I missing something"}, {"start": "02:43:51", "end": "02:43:57", "text": "with Instagram? Maybe I just got too"}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:43:57", "text": "old."}, {"start": "02:43:58", "end": "02:44:02", "text": "Ryan says, \"Can't chat regularly. Been a"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:04", "text": "member well over eight weeks.\" That"}, {"start": "02:44:02", "end": "02:44:06", "text": "sounds like a YouTube problem, but we do"}, {"start": "02:44:04", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "have the chat set for you need to be a"}, {"start": "02:44:06", "end": "02:44:10", "text": "subscriber for 8 weeks. That's just to"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:12", "text": "keep out the riff raff"}, {"start": "02:44:10", "end": "02:44:14", "text": "cuz riffraff does come in here when I"}, {"start": "02:44:12", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "open up the stream, especially when I"}, {"start": "02:44:14", "end": "02:44:18", "text": "was streaming to Facebook. GH, it was"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "just all people coming here talking"}, {"start": "02:44:18", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "about politics. It's like we're I'm in"}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "the middle of talking about underwater"}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:27", "text": "aliens with Gino and people are talking"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:29", "text": "about Trump and Biden from Facebook."}, {"start": "02:44:27", "end": "02:44:32", "text": "Do that over there. We don't do that"}, {"start": "02:44:29", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "here. Super boring."}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:36", "text": "All your political rants are super"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "boring, y'all."}, {"start": "02:44:36", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "Uh, all due respect,"}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:46", "text": "there's Ryan. Thank you for the sawbuck."}, {"start": "02:44:44", "end": "02:44:50", "text": "Eric says, \"Tic tac, tick tock, whatever"}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:51", "text": "it is.\" I'm kind of the same way. Um, I"}, {"start": "02:44:50", "end": "02:44:54", "text": "don't even have that on my phone"}, {"start": "02:44:51", "end": "02:44:58", "text": "anymore. But to be honest,"}, {"start": "02:44:54", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "we're probably here because of Tik Tok."}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:02", "text": "Very early on, Gino's like, \"You should"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:04", "text": "post stuff on TikTok.\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "02:45:02", "end": "02:45:06", "text": "\"What? Me dancing or what?\" cuz I didn't"}, {"start": "02:45:04", "end": "02:45:07", "text": "know what it was. He's like, \"No, they"}, {"start": "02:45:06", "end": "02:45:09", "text": "put his stuff on there.\" He said,"}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:13", "text": "\"There's this guy named Mr. Ballin who"}, {"start": "02:45:09", "end": "02:45:16", "text": "posts weird stuff do like like that.\""}, {"start": "02:45:13", "end": "02:45:18", "text": "So, I did that. I think I posted the um"}, {"start": "02:45:16", "end": "02:45:21", "text": "the short about the coincidences between"}, {"start": "02:45:18", "end": "02:45:22", "text": "JFK and Abraham Lincoln, which are"}, {"start": "02:45:21", "end": "02:45:24", "text": "crazy."}, {"start": "02:45:22", "end": "02:45:27", "text": "And I don't know, like a million people"}, {"start": "02:45:24", "end": "02:45:29", "text": "watched that. So, in a day or two, I had"}, {"start": "02:45:27", "end": "02:45:33", "text": "50,000 followers on TikTok. And I was"}, {"start": "02:45:29", "end": "02:45:34", "text": "like, \"Wow, this really works.\" and uh"}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:37", "text": "and that was driving people over to the"}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "main channel. But here's the thing, the"}, {"start": "02:45:37", "end": "02:45:40", "text": "people coming over to the main channel"}, {"start": "02:45:38", "end": "02:45:41", "text": "weren't watching the videos. They would"}, {"start": "02:45:40", "end": "02:45:44", "text": "watch a couple of shorts and then that"}, {"start": "02:45:41", "end": "02:45:47", "text": "was it because it was just all kids."}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "So, and then Tik Tok shadowbanned me."}, {"start": "02:45:47", "end": "02:45:52", "text": "So, no matter what I posted, nobody"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:55", "text": "watched 100 views, 200 views, 100 views."}, {"start": "02:45:52", "end": "02:46:00", "text": "So, there I was kind of in limbo."}, {"start": "02:45:55", "end": "02:46:02", "text": "But through luck or whatever,"}, {"start": "02:46:00", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "YouTube, I guess the algorithm picked up"}, {"start": "02:46:02", "end": "02:46:04", "text": "on the channel and then started"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "releasing"}, {"start": "02:46:04", "end": "02:46:10", "text": "the main videos. And then uh the one"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:12", "text": "that kind of made the channel take off"}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:14", "text": "was the Operation High Jump video about"}, {"start": "02:46:12", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "Admiral Bird going into the Hollow Earth"}, {"start": "02:46:14", "end": "02:46:18", "text": "and the down at the South Pole, which is"}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:20", "text": "a great story. I think I might want to"}, {"start": "02:46:18", "end": "02:46:22", "text": "redo that one."}, {"start": "02:46:20", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "And that got 50,000 views in a day. And"}, {"start": "02:46:22", "end": "02:46:26", "text": "I couldn't even believe it. That was"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:30", "text": "unheard of."}, {"start": "02:46:26", "end": "02:46:32", "text": "But at that time, I think I had 250,000"}, {"start": "02:46:30", "end": "02:46:35", "text": "subscribers and my videos were getting"}, {"start": "02:46:32", "end": "02:46:37", "text": "about 1,200,500 views because it was all"}, {"start": "02:46:35", "end": "02:46:39", "text": "kids from Tik Tok. So, they didn't watch"}, {"start": "02:46:37", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "and when they did, their comments were"}, {"start": "02:46:39", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "not fun. It was it was really a hard It"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "was a hard time in my journey."}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:48", "text": "Maybe the hardest because you had the"}, {"start": "02:46:47", "end": "02:46:51", "text": "just a tiny taste of this is going to"}, {"start": "02:46:48", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "work and then was all taken away."}, {"start": "02:46:51", "end": "02:46:55", "text": "shadowbanned, no views, horrible"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "comments. And it was it was the only"}, {"start": "02:46:55", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "time during all of this where I was"}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:46:59", "text": "like, I don't know if I want to do this"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:01", "text": "anymore. I don't know if this is really"}, {"start": "02:46:59", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "worth it because,"}, {"start": "02:47:01", "end": "02:47:07", "text": "you know, I work hard and it just wasn't"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:10", "text": "it just wasn't working. So, I'm grateful"}, {"start": "02:47:07", "end": "02:47:12", "text": "that that high jump video took off"}, {"start": "02:47:10", "end": "02:47:14", "text": "and it's been a doozy of a ride ever"}, {"start": "02:47:12", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "since. I'll admit things have kind of"}, {"start": "02:47:14", "end": "02:47:20", "text": "flattened out. I you know you can't the"}, {"start": "02:47:17", "end": "02:47:22", "text": "curve can't go straight up forever"}, {"start": "02:47:20", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "but I don't mind it we can settle goes"}, {"start": "02:47:22", "end": "02:47:28", "text": "right on you're now at 5.5 billion I"}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:30", "text": "know I don't have we hit 5.5 yet"}, {"start": "02:47:28", "end": "02:47:32", "text": "let me let me see I know we were close I"}, {"start": "02:47:30", "end": "02:47:35", "text": "don't check this really as often as I"}, {"start": "02:47:32", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "used to because honestly you're at 5.497"}, {"start": "02:47:35", "end": "02:47:40", "text": "497 because honestly it could just stay"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:42", "text": "at five. It could just stay at five."}, {"start": "02:47:40", "end": "02:47:45", "text": "That's that's fine"}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:47", "text": "because five is crazy."}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "But look, it's kind of the same thing."}, {"start": "02:47:47", "end": "02:47:51", "text": "So 5.5 million subscribers, but the"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:54", "text": "videos you will usually get about a"}, {"start": "02:47:51", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "million a million.2"}, {"start": "02:47:54", "end": "02:47:58", "text": "usually in the first couple of days and"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:48:01", "text": "then that's about it. which means most"}, {"start": "02:47:58", "end": "02:48:04", "text": "subscribers don't watch the videos"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:07", "text": "and the viewers that are watching 40% of"}, {"start": "02:48:04", "end": "02:48:10", "text": "them aren't subs. So, so there's like"}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:12", "text": "5.5 subscribers and I don't know 500,000"}, {"start": "02:48:10", "end": "02:48:14", "text": "people watch."}, {"start": "02:48:12", "end": "02:48:16", "text": "That's why I tell people who ask me"}, {"start": "02:48:14", "end": "02:48:18", "text": "about how do I get my subscriber count"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:21", "text": "up? I tell them don't worry about that"}, {"start": "02:48:18", "end": "02:48:25", "text": "cuz that's a vanity number. Just make"}, {"start": "02:48:21", "end": "02:48:27", "text": "fun videos and go for stuff that"}, {"start": "02:48:25", "end": "02:48:30", "text": "interests people. Make fun videos. Get"}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:32", "text": "your views. Subs will come later."}, {"start": "02:48:30", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "It's the views that are important. It's"}, {"start": "02:48:32", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "the views that sponsors care about, not"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "the subs."}, {"start": "02:48:39", "end": "02:48:44", "text": "Claude uh asking who voices hecklefish?"}, {"start": "02:48:42", "end": "02:48:45", "text": "Someone in the chat must know who voices"}, {"start": "02:48:44", "end": "02:48:48", "text": "hecklefish."}, {"start": "02:48:45", "end": "02:48:51", "text": "Warwick says, \"Of the 5 million subs,"}, {"start": "02:48:48", "end": "02:48:54", "text": "four million CIA bots.\" It could be. It"}, {"start": "02:48:51", "end": "02:48:58", "text": "could be. I got dinged from YouTube last"}, {"start": "02:48:54", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "week for for phony traffic,"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:02", "text": "which is crazy because because why would"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:04", "text": "you know when you get a million views,"}, {"start": "02:49:02", "end": "02:49:07", "text": "we don't have to do phony traffic. So, I"}, {"start": "02:49:04", "end": "02:49:09", "text": "don't know what that was about,"}, {"start": "02:49:07", "end": "02:49:12", "text": "but it happens. And I could see it. I"}, {"start": "02:49:09", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "see when when bots hit the channel."}, {"start": "02:49:12", "end": "02:49:16", "text": "I just don't know why they would hit"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:17", "text": "ours."}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:21", "text": "Fizz gig, he does his own voice. Who"}, {"start": "02:49:17", "end": "02:49:21", "text": "does yours?"}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "Um, one accord. How do I make the money"}, {"start": "02:49:25", "end": "02:49:28", "text": "without making the videos, though? I"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:32", "text": "don't know, man. But if you figure it"}, {"start": "02:49:28", "end": "02:49:36", "text": "out, let me know."}, {"start": "02:49:32", "end": "02:49:39", "text": "All right, we're 92% for one more uh"}, {"start": "02:49:36", "end": "02:49:42", "text": "one more story."}, {"start": "02:49:39", "end": "02:49:44", "text": "Gino, you still got ears on?"}, {"start": "02:49:42", "end": "02:49:47", "text": "You want to you want to talk about uh"}, {"start": "02:49:44", "end": "02:49:48", "text": "Jacqu Valet before I go into the uh the"}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:50", "text": "next campfire?"}, {"start": "02:49:48", "end": "02:49:52", "text": ">> Yeah. just"}, {"start": "02:49:50", "end": "02:49:55", "text": ">> and do a quick just a quick two sentence"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:59", "text": "summary of who who Jaffa is."}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:50:01", "text": ">> Well, uh I guess my my uh two sentence"}, {"start": "02:49:59", "end": "02:50:04", "text": "summary would be he's someone who has"}, {"start": "02:50:01", "end": "02:50:07", "text": "been involved in uh the UFO phenomena"}, {"start": "02:50:04", "end": "02:50:09", "text": "since uh the 70s. Um and uh"}, {"start": "02:50:07", "end": "02:50:12", "text": ">> started as an astronomer as an"}, {"start": "02:50:09", "end": "02:50:14", "text": "astronomer, a non-believer and then saw"}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:16", "text": "things and said there's something crazy"}, {"start": "02:50:14", "end": "02:50:18", "text": "up there."}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:20", "text": ">> That's right. So, he was recently on"}, {"start": "02:50:18", "end": "02:50:23", "text": "Weaponize with Jeremy Corbel and and"}, {"start": "02:50:20", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "George Knap. And one of the things that"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:28", "text": "that caught my attention was that he"}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:31", "text": "talked about uh over 20 years ago that"}, {"start": "02:50:28", "end": "02:50:34", "text": "we had technology that uh was able to"}, {"start": "02:50:31", "end": "02:50:37", "text": "communicate with these with beings. Now,"}, {"start": "02:50:34", "end": "02:50:39", "text": "he said, \"I can tell you for sure these"}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:43", "text": "beings weren't gray aliens. They weren't"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:46", "text": "the aliens that that were at Venia. Um"}, {"start": "02:50:43", "end": "02:50:50", "text": "there it's something different.\" But um"}, {"start": "02:50:46", "end": "02:50:53", "text": "and that's about all uh you know the"}, {"start": "02:50:50", "end": "02:50:54", "text": "kind of info that he could give. But"}, {"start": "02:50:53", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "certainly that that's really interesting"}, {"start": "02:50:54", "end": "02:50:58", "text": "that it that he's saying 20 years ago"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:51:02", "text": "that existed and they were using it. He"}, {"start": "02:50:58", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "said it was um very very big technology"}, {"start": "02:51:02", "end": "02:51:06", "text": "like uh sophisticated technology"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "obviously. Um he didn't say what they"}, {"start": "02:51:06", "end": "02:51:13", "text": "were communicating about uh or how uh"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:16", "text": "just that it's uh telepathic. Um, and"}, {"start": "02:51:13", "end": "02:51:20", "text": "again, very interesting, but he he kind"}, {"start": "02:51:16", "end": "02:51:22", "text": "of said like it it made me come away"}, {"start": "02:51:20", "end": "02:51:25", "text": "with the feeling that whatever they were"}, {"start": "02:51:22", "end": "02:51:28", "text": "communicating with was of a higher level"}, {"start": "02:51:25", "end": "02:51:31", "text": "than even the alien beings being seen"}, {"start": "02:51:28", "end": "02:51:32", "text": "throughout the world."}, {"start": "02:51:31", "end": "02:51:33", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:51:33", "end": "02:51:35", "text": ">> And this and this could be done without"}, {"start": "02:51:34", "end": "02:51:37", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "02:51:35", "end": "02:51:40", "text": ">> No, no, no. That there was some there"}, {"start": "02:51:37", "end": "02:51:43", "text": "was some technology involved in it. Um,"}, {"start": "02:51:40", "end": "02:51:45", "text": ">> does he get into how it works?"}, {"start": "02:51:43", "end": "02:51:48", "text": ">> He didn't. That's That's the thing. We"}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:49", "text": "only got a small snippet of that, you"}, {"start": "02:51:48", "end": "02:51:51", "text": "know. Uh, not"}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:52", "text": ">> I think we could probably get him to We"}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:53", "text": "could probably get him to come in. I"}, {"start": "02:51:52", "end": "02:51:55", "text": "think"}, {"start": "02:51:53", "end": "02:51:57", "text": ">> I I don't see why not. If Jeremy is"}, {"start": "02:51:55", "end": "02:52:00", "text": "sitting down with him, I bet I'm sure we"}, {"start": "02:51:57", "end": "02:52:04", "text": "could reach out to him as well. And um,"}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:04", "text": "uh, again, he's a very good interview."}, {"start": "02:52:04", "end": "02:52:08", "text": ">> All right. Jo Fer. Yeah, I've seen him"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:10", "text": "on Rogan. He does a great job. Very,"}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:12", "text": "very smart man."}, {"start": "02:52:10", "end": "02:52:14", "text": "All right, we're going to do a campfire"}, {"start": "02:52:12", "end": "02:52:17", "text": "story. Drop uh drop Gino down for a bit."}, {"start": "02:52:14", "end": "02:52:20", "text": "We're t-minus 27 minutes to 2026 for the"}, {"start": "02:52:17", "end": "02:52:20", "text": "ball dropping."}, {"start": "02:52:21", "end": "02:52:27", "text": "This is a creepy one. Uh let me let me"}, {"start": "02:52:23", "end": "02:52:29", "text": "turn off the poll. This is a creepy one."}, {"start": "02:52:27", "end": "02:52:34", "text": "All right, 92% said do another. So,"}, {"start": "02:52:29", "end": "02:52:34", "text": "let's do another. You're the boss."}, {"start": "02:52:34", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "The heart of Sunny Grant. Gather around."}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "Cuz this happened."}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "Charleston, South Carolina, 1995. Sunny"}, {"start": "02:52:46", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "Graham lay in a hospital bed. His heart"}, {"start": "02:52:48", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "was enlarged and failing. Doctors gave"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:54", "text": "him weeks to live. 200 miles away, a man"}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:56", "text": "named Terry Codddle put a gun to his"}, {"start": "02:52:54", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "head and pulled the trigger. Terry's"}, {"start": "02:52:56", "end": "02:53:00", "text": "heart was strong. Doctors rushed it to"}, {"start": "02:52:58", "end": "02:53:03", "text": "Charleston and transplanted it into"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:05", "text": "Sunny's chest. Sunny woke up with a new"}, {"start": "02:53:03", "end": "02:53:07", "text": "pulse, feeling stronger than he had in"}, {"start": "02:53:05", "end": "02:53:10", "text": "years. But it seemed like Sunny"}, {"start": "02:53:07", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "inherited something from Terry more than"}, {"start": "02:53:10", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "his heart. A lot more."}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:21", "text": "Sunonny Graham was a big man on Hilton"}, {"start": "02:53:19", "end": "02:53:22", "text": "Head Island. As a manager of the central"}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "plant, he knew just about everybody on"}, {"start": "02:53:22", "end": "02:53:27", "text": "the barrier island. His cooking was"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:29", "text": "legendary at fundraisers and community"}, {"start": "02:53:27", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "events. The local high school football"}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:32", "text": "field was named in his honor. He and his"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:35", "text": "wife were married 38 years, two"}, {"start": "02:53:32", "end": "02:53:38", "text": "children. In 1994, a virus attacked"}, {"start": "02:53:35", "end": "02:53:41", "text": "Sunny's heart muscle. The damage was"}, {"start": "02:53:38", "end": "02:53:43", "text": "severe. By 1995, Sunny was 56 years old"}, {"start": "02:53:41", "end": "02:53:46", "text": "and dying. His name went on two"}, {"start": "02:53:43", "end": "02:53:48", "text": "transplant lists. He waited, but his"}, {"start": "02:53:46", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "heart kept failing. But one evening,"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:53", "text": "Sunny got the call. A heart had become"}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "available. Terry Codddle's heart, close"}, {"start": "02:53:53", "end": "02:53:58", "text": "to a perfect match. Terry Codddle had"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:54:00", "text": "spent 4 days on life support. A 22"}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:02", "text": "caliber slug entered his skull just"}, {"start": "02:54:00", "end": "02:54:04", "text": "behind his right ear. He was 33 years"}, {"start": "02:54:02", "end": "02:54:06", "text": "old. That day, his wife, Cheryl, agreed"}, {"start": "02:54:04", "end": "02:54:09", "text": "to take him off life support. His organs"}, {"start": "02:54:06", "end": "02:54:11", "text": "could save lives. The surgery went well."}, {"start": "02:54:09", "end": "02:54:12", "text": "Within six months, Sunny was strong"}, {"start": "02:54:11", "end": "02:54:15", "text": "enough to go on a fishing trip to"}, {"start": "02:54:12", "end": "02:54:17", "text": "Alaska. But something was different."}, {"start": "02:54:15", "end": "02:54:19", "text": "Sunny had always hated hot dogs. The"}, {"start": "02:54:17", "end": "02:54:21", "text": "smell, the taste, everything about them."}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:23", "text": "Now, he ate them every day, sometimes"}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:25", "text": "two or three. He developed a taste for"}, {"start": "02:54:23", "end": "02:54:27", "text": "beer and heavy metal music. He never"}, {"start": "02:54:25", "end": "02:54:29", "text": "cared about beer and metal before. And"}, {"start": "02:54:27", "end": "02:54:31", "text": "his wife started seeing changes. Sunny's"}, {"start": "02:54:29", "end": "02:54:33", "text": "handwriting looked different. He walked"}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:36", "text": "differently. He laughed differently. She"}, {"start": "02:54:33", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "said he seemed like a different person."}, {"start": "02:54:36", "end": "02:54:41", "text": "His friends saw, too, friends of 40"}, {"start": "02:54:38", "end": "02:54:43", "text": "years or more. And Sunny felt something"}, {"start": "02:54:41", "end": "02:54:45", "text": "else, something he couldn't explain to"}, {"start": "02:54:43", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "anyone. He felt a pull toward the"}, {"start": "02:54:45", "end": "02:54:50", "text": "donor's family. He needed to thank them,"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:52", "text": "to meet them, to understand who had"}, {"start": "02:54:50", "end": "02:54:54", "text": "given him this second chance. So, in"}, {"start": "02:54:52", "end": "02:54:56", "text": "late 1996, he wrote to the donor's"}, {"start": "02:54:54", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "widow. Her name was Cheryl Codddle. She"}, {"start": "02:54:56", "end": "02:55:00", "text": "agreed to meet him. They met at a"}, {"start": "02:54:58", "end": "02:55:03", "text": "restaurant in Charleston in January"}, {"start": "02:55:00", "end": "02:55:05", "text": "1997. And the moment Sunny saw her, his"}, {"start": "02:55:03", "end": "02:55:08", "text": "chest tightened. He felt a physical"}, {"start": "02:55:05", "end": "02:55:10", "text": "jolt. A sudden acceleration that didn't"}, {"start": "02:55:08", "end": "02:55:13", "text": "feel like attraction or nerves, it felt"}, {"start": "02:55:10", "end": "02:55:15", "text": "like recognition. His heart beat faster"}, {"start": "02:55:13", "end": "02:55:18", "text": "when she smiled. It slammed against his"}, {"start": "02:55:15", "end": "02:55:20", "text": "ribs when he spoke. She felt he felt a"}, {"start": "02:55:18", "end": "02:55:22", "text": "rush of emotion that didn't belong to"}, {"start": "02:55:20", "end": "02:55:25", "text": "him. Love, guilt, and a desperate need"}, {"start": "02:55:22", "end": "02:55:26", "text": "to protect this woman. And Cheryl felt"}, {"start": "02:55:25", "end": "02:55:28", "text": "something, too. She said later that"}, {"start": "02:55:26", "end": "02:55:31", "text": "meeting Sunny was like seeing Terry"}, {"start": "02:55:28", "end": "02:55:32", "text": "again. Cheryl was only 30 years old and"}, {"start": "02:55:31", "end": "02:55:35", "text": "she looked at this older man with gray"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:37", "text": "hair and weathered hands, but she felt"}, {"start": "02:55:35", "end": "02:55:39", "text": "her dead husband's presence. She felt"}, {"start": "02:55:37", "end": "02:55:41", "text": "him looking out through Sunny's eyes."}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "Sunny went home to his wife that night,"}, {"start": "02:55:41", "end": "02:55:45", "text": "but he couldn't stop thinking about"}, {"start": "02:55:42", "end": "02:55:48", "text": "Cheryl. He called her. They talked for"}, {"start": "02:55:45", "end": "02:55:50", "text": "hours. He visited her. He felt compelled"}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:52", "text": "to take care of her in ways he couldn't"}, {"start": "02:55:50", "end": "02:55:54", "text": "explain. Soon, Sunny's marriage fell"}, {"start": "02:55:52", "end": "02:55:57", "text": "apart. His wife couldn't compete with a"}, {"start": "02:55:54", "end": "02:55:59", "text": "ghost. But that April, Cheryl married"}, {"start": "02:55:57", "end": "02:56:02", "text": "another man, and Sunny gave her away,"}, {"start": "02:55:59", "end": "02:56:04", "text": "standing in for her late father, and"}, {"start": "02:56:02", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "Sunny watched her walk towards someone"}, {"start": "02:56:04", "end": "02:56:08", "text": "else. But it was Tererry's heart"}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:10", "text": "pounding in his chest. That marriage"}, {"start": "02:56:08", "end": "02:56:12", "text": "didn't last either. Both couples fell"}, {"start": "02:56:10", "end": "02:56:14", "text": "apart under the weight of what neither"}, {"start": "02:56:12", "end": "02:56:17", "text": "can explain. The pull between Sunny and"}, {"start": "02:56:14", "end": "02:56:20", "text": "Cheryl that defied reason. Cheryl"}, {"start": "02:56:17", "end": "02:56:23", "text": "married Sunny in December 2004. Two"}, {"start": "02:56:20", "end": "02:56:27", "text": "different men, same heart. and at heart"}, {"start": "02:56:23", "end": "02:56:27", "text": "was bringing her dead husband back."}, {"start": "02:56:30", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "For a while, things felt right. Sunny"}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:37", "text": "felt younger. He had a new wife, a new"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:39", "text": "heart, a new beginning. Then the"}, {"start": "02:56:37", "end": "02:56:41", "text": "depression started. Terry Codddle hadn't"}, {"start": "02:56:39", "end": "02:56:43", "text": "just died. He killed himself. He was a"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:45", "text": "man who struggled with depression and he"}, {"start": "02:56:43", "end": "02:56:46", "text": "couldn't escape. He put a gun to his"}, {"start": "02:56:45", "end": "02:56:49", "text": "head because the weight of living became"}, {"start": "02:56:46", "end": "02:56:52", "text": "unbearable. And now something dark was"}, {"start": "02:56:49", "end": "02:56:54", "text": "growing in Sunny. His personality"}, {"start": "02:56:52", "end": "02:56:55", "text": "shifted. Friends who'd known him for"}, {"start": "02:56:54", "end": "02:56:57", "text": "decades said they didn't recognize him"}, {"start": "02:56:55", "end": "02:56:59", "text": "anymore. The kind, gentle man who was"}, {"start": "02:56:57", "end": "02:57:02", "text": "the first to do a friend a favor, that"}, {"start": "02:56:59", "end": "02:57:03", "text": "man was disappearing. And Sunny talked"}, {"start": "02:57:02", "end": "02:57:06", "text": "about feeling trapped, about living"}, {"start": "02:57:03", "end": "02:57:08", "text": "someone else's life, about thoughts that"}, {"start": "02:57:06", "end": "02:57:10", "text": "didn't feel like his own. He became"}, {"start": "02:57:08", "end": "02:57:12", "text": "moody and withdrawn. He grew possessive,"}, {"start": "02:57:10", "end": "02:57:14", "text": "jealous in ways he'd never been. He"}, {"start": "02:57:12", "end": "02:57:16", "text": "accused Cheryl of seeing other men. He"}, {"start": "02:57:14", "end": "02:57:19", "text": "followed her car. He checked her phone."}, {"start": "02:57:16", "end": "02:57:21", "text": "Then the fight started. The relationship"}, {"start": "02:57:19", "end": "02:57:23", "text": "turned toxic. Sunny felt trapped in a"}, {"start": "02:57:21", "end": "02:57:24", "text": "life he didn't recognize. He said he"}, {"start": "02:57:23", "end": "02:57:26", "text": "didn't feel like himself anymore. He"}, {"start": "02:57:24", "end": "02:57:29", "text": "felt like a passenger in his own body"}, {"start": "02:57:26", "end": "02:57:31", "text": "watching someone else make decisions. In"}, {"start": "02:57:29", "end": "02:57:33", "text": "2007, Sunonny drew up a will. He asked"}, {"start": "02:57:31", "end": "02:57:35", "text": "his nephew to be the executive. He"}, {"start": "02:57:33", "end": "02:57:38", "text": "organized his finances, paid off debts,"}, {"start": "02:57:35", "end": "02:57:41", "text": "settled accounts. People noticed. They"}, {"start": "02:57:38", "end": "02:57:43", "text": "asked if he was okay. Sunny said he was"}, {"start": "02:57:41", "end": "02:57:46", "text": "fine just getting things in order. The"}, {"start": "02:57:43", "end": "02:57:48", "text": "beer, the hot dogs, the instant love for"}, {"start": "02:57:46", "end": "02:57:51", "text": "Cheryl, the handwriting changed to match"}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "Tererry's, a more careless style. These"}, {"start": "02:57:51", "end": "02:57:55", "text": "weren't coincidences. These were"}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:58", "text": "Tererry's preferences, Tererry's traits,"}, {"start": "02:57:55", "end": "02:58:00", "text": "Tererry's life. Sunny walked a path"}, {"start": "02:57:58", "end": "02:58:03", "text": "already walked. He followed footprints"}, {"start": "02:58:00", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "that weren't his own. The years passed."}, {"start": "02:58:03", "end": "02:58:08", "text": "Whatever joy Sunny found in his second"}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:11", "text": "chance evaporated. Instead, Sunny had a"}, {"start": "02:58:08", "end": "02:58:13", "text": "sense of impending doom. He was living"}, {"start": "02:58:11", "end": "02:58:15", "text": "Terry Codddle's life and he knew how"}, {"start": "02:58:13", "end": "02:58:20", "text": "that life ended."}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "02:58:20", "end": "02:58:26", "text": "April 1st, 2008, 12 years 12 days after"}, {"start": "02:58:23", "end": "02:58:28", "text": "the transplant, neighbors in Videlia,"}, {"start": "02:58:26", "end": "02:58:30", "text": "Georgia were jolted awake by the sound"}, {"start": "02:58:28", "end": "02:58:32", "text": "of a shotgun blast. That morning, Sunny"}, {"start": "02:58:30", "end": "02:58:34", "text": "Graham drank his coffee and told Cheryl"}, {"start": "02:58:32", "end": "02:58:36", "text": "he was taking his nine-year-old stepson"}, {"start": "02:58:34", "end": "02:58:38", "text": "to the dentist, then off to work, a"}, {"start": "02:58:36", "end": "02:58:41", "text": "normal day. But Sunny made a detour to"}, {"start": "02:58:38", "end": "02:58:42", "text": "his backyard shed. There, the"}, {"start": "02:58:41", "end": "02:58:44", "text": "69-year-old picked up the 12- gauge"}, {"start": "02:58:42", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "shotgun he'd taken on countless hunting"}, {"start": "02:58:44", "end": "02:58:48", "text": "trips. He pointed the muzzle at the"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:50", "text": "right side of his throat, just like"}, {"start": "02:58:48", "end": "02:58:52", "text": "Terry did all those years ago. Then"}, {"start": "02:58:50", "end": "02:58:55", "text": "Sunny pulled the trigger. It was April"}, {"start": "02:58:52", "end": "02:58:57", "text": "1st, almost exactly 13 years since"}, {"start": "02:58:55", "end": "02:58:59", "text": "another man's suicide gave Sunny Graham"}, {"start": "02:58:57", "end": "02:59:02", "text": "a second chance at life. Different"}, {"start": "02:58:59", "end": "02:59:04", "text": "weapon, same method, same location on"}, {"start": "02:59:02", "end": "02:59:06", "text": "his body. Sunny Graham died instantly."}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:09", "text": "He left Cheryl a widow for the second"}, {"start": "02:59:06", "end": "02:59:11", "text": "time. Two husbands lost, both to"}, {"start": "02:59:09", "end": "02:59:15", "text": "self-inflicted gunshots to the head. Two"}, {"start": "02:59:11", "end": "02:59:17", "text": "men, one heart, same fate. The story"}, {"start": "02:59:15", "end": "02:59:19", "text": "spread across the world. Reporters wrote"}, {"start": "02:59:17", "end": "02:59:22", "text": "about cellular memory, whether organs"}, {"start": "02:59:19", "end": "02:59:24", "text": "could hold a suicide gene. The internet"}, {"start": "02:59:22", "end": "02:59:26", "text": "lit up with theories."}, {"start": "02:59:24", "end": "02:59:28", "text": "Terry Cartle, Terry Codle's heartbeat in"}, {"start": "02:59:26", "end": "02:59:30", "text": "Sunny Graham's chest for 13 years. And"}, {"start": "02:59:28", "end": "02:59:33", "text": "during those 13 years, Sunny Graham"}, {"start": "02:59:30", "end": "02:59:35", "text": "slowly became Terry Coddle. Scientists"}, {"start": "02:59:33", "end": "02:59:37", "text": "documented this phenomenon for decades."}, {"start": "02:59:35", "end": "02:59:39", "text": "Personality changes following heart"}, {"start": "02:59:37", "end": "02:59:42", "text": "transplantation, four categories,"}, {"start": "02:59:39", "end": "02:59:44", "text": "changes in preferences, alterations in"}, {"start": "02:59:42", "end": "02:59:46", "text": "emotions and temperament, modifications"}, {"start": "02:59:44", "end": "02:59:49", "text": "of identity, and memories from the"}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:52", "text": "donor's life. The heart contains about"}, {"start": "02:59:49", "end": "02:59:54", "text": "40,000 neurons, a network that operates"}, {"start": "02:59:52", "end": "02:59:56", "text": "independently from the brain, a heartb"}, {"start": "02:59:54", "end": "02:59:58", "text": "brain that communicates birectionally"}, {"start": "02:59:56", "end": "03:00:00", "text": "with the brain and other organs."}, {"start": "02:59:58", "end": "03:00:02", "text": "Researchers documented this cardiac"}, {"start": "03:00:00", "end": "03:00:05", "text": "nervous system in the early 1990s. Some"}, {"start": "03:00:02", "end": "03:00:07", "text": "theorized that cellular memory could"}, {"start": "03:00:05", "end": "03:00:10", "text": "transfer personality characteristics"}, {"start": "03:00:07", "end": "03:00:13", "text": "from donor to recip donor to recipient."}, {"start": "03:00:10", "end": "03:00:16", "text": "Epigenetic memory, DNA memory, RNA"}, {"start": "03:00:13", "end": "03:00:20", "text": "memory, protein memory. Studies of 73"}, {"start": "03:00:16", "end": "03:00:22", "text": "heart transplant patients showed 89%"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:24", "text": "reported personality changes after"}, {"start": "03:00:22", "end": "03:00:27", "text": "receiving their organ and not subtle"}, {"start": "03:00:24", "end": "03:00:29", "text": "shifts, fundamental alterations in who"}, {"start": "03:00:27", "end": "03:00:31", "text": "they were."}, {"start": "03:00:29", "end": "03:00:33", "text": "Claire Sylvia received a heart lung"}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:35", "text": "transplant from an 18-year-old male"}, {"start": "03:00:33", "end": "03:00:37", "text": "motorcyclist. She suddenly craved beer"}, {"start": "03:00:35", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "and chicken nuggets, food she later"}, {"start": "03:00:37", "end": "03:00:41", "text": "learned were her donor's favorites. She"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "dreamed about a man named Tim L. Her"}, {"start": "03:00:41", "end": "03:00:45", "text": "donor's name was Tim. A woman received a"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:47", "text": "heart from a police officer killed in"}, {"start": "03:00:45", "end": "03:00:49", "text": "the line of duty. She started seeing"}, {"start": "03:00:47", "end": "03:00:51", "text": "flashes of light in her eyes, feeling"}, {"start": "03:00:49", "end": "03:00:53", "text": "burning sensations on her cheeks. She"}, {"start": "03:00:51", "end": "03:00:56", "text": "later learned the officer was shot in"}, {"start": "03:00:53", "end": "03:00:58", "text": "the face. A 5-year-old boy received a"}, {"start": "03:00:56", "end": "03:00:59", "text": "heart from a three-year-old named Tim."}, {"start": "03:00:58", "end": "03:01:02", "text": "The recipient had never been told the"}, {"start": "03:00:59", "end": "03:01:04", "text": "donor's name. He called his donor Timmy."}, {"start": "03:01:02", "end": "03:01:07", "text": "He said Timmy got hurt when he fell down"}, {"start": "03:01:04", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "and likes Power Rangers. Well, Tim had"}, {"start": "03:01:07", "end": "03:01:12", "text": "fallen from a window ledge reaching for"}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:14", "text": "a Power Ranger toy. The theories exist."}, {"start": "03:01:12", "end": "03:01:16", "text": "The documentation exists. The cases"}, {"start": "03:01:14", "end": "03:01:18", "text": "stack up one after another. People"}, {"start": "03:01:16", "end": "03:01:20", "text": "receiving organs and receiving something"}, {"start": "03:01:18", "end": "03:01:23", "text": "else. Preferences, memories, traits that"}, {"start": "03:01:20", "end": "03:01:25", "text": "aren't their own. But the theories don't"}, {"start": "03:01:23", "end": "03:01:26", "text": "explain the weight of it. The lived"}, {"start": "03:01:25", "end": "03:01:28", "text": "experience of looking in the mirror and"}, {"start": "03:01:26", "end": "03:01:30", "text": "not recognizing yourself. Of loving"}, {"start": "03:01:28", "end": "03:01:32", "text": "someone you've never met, of walking"}, {"start": "03:01:30", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "toward a shed with a shotgun because"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:37", "text": "something inside you, something that"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:39", "text": "isn't you, knows exactly what to do."}, {"start": "03:01:37", "end": "03:01:41", "text": "Sunny Graham's new heart remembered what"}, {"start": "03:01:39", "end": "03:01:43", "text": "his brain never knew. It remembered"}, {"start": "03:01:41", "end": "03:01:45", "text": "Terry's widow. It remembered Terry's"}, {"start": "03:01:43", "end": "03:01:50", "text": "pain. And when the time came, it"}, {"start": "03:01:45", "end": "03:01:50", "text": "remembered how Terry ended it all."}, {"start": "03:01:53", "end": "03:01:59", "text": "That's another campfire story. The heart"}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:02:01", "text": "of Sunny Graham. And if you Google it,"}, {"start": "03:01:59", "end": "03:02:04", "text": "you'll find all that stuff is true and"}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:04", "text": "unexplainable."}, {"start": "03:02:04", "end": "03:02:11", "text": "Sneaky Pete. Fear the crabcat for sure."}, {"start": "03:02:09", "end": "03:02:13", "text": "Um, Alexis, I saw a documentary in UK."}, {"start": "03:02:11", "end": "03:02:14", "text": "Um, last call for super chats because"}, {"start": "03:02:13", "end": "03:02:17", "text": "I'm not going to get to them all."}, {"start": "03:02:14", "end": "03:02:19", "text": "They're they're stacking up. Um, Alexis"}, {"start": "03:02:17", "end": "03:02:20", "text": "saw a documentary in UK where four"}, {"start": "03:02:19", "end": "03:02:22", "text": "people took on preferences that their"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:24", "text": "heart donors had. One posh woman started"}, {"start": "03:02:22", "end": "03:02:26", "text": "loving KFC. What's not for love? Uh,"}, {"start": "03:02:24", "end": "03:02:28", "text": "when she'd never had one before and it"}, {"start": "03:02:26", "end": "03:02:31", "text": "was her donor's favorite food. I don't"}, {"start": "03:02:28", "end": "03:02:33", "text": "care how rich you are. How do you not go"}, {"start": "03:02:31", "end": "03:02:35", "text": "to KFC once?"}, {"start": "03:02:33", "end": "03:02:38", "text": "Man, someone was saying ear earlier um"}, {"start": "03:02:35", "end": "03:02:41", "text": "they missed living next door to a KFC in"}, {"start": "03:02:38", "end": "03:02:43", "text": "New York City. I did. It was It was not"}, {"start": "03:02:41", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "my thinnest years."}, {"start": "03:02:43", "end": "03:02:50", "text": "I was in Greenley Square. If you know"}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:50", "text": "the city, there's a KFC right there."}, {"start": "03:02:51", "end": "03:02:57", "text": "Uh Normar enjoyed the Joe Rogan podcast."}, {"start": "03:02:54", "end": "03:03:00", "text": "I'm glad."}, {"start": "03:02:57", "end": "03:03:01", "text": "I'll cover the Shroud of Torren."}, {"start": "03:03:00", "end": "03:03:04", "text": "All right. I don't know how long that"}, {"start": "03:03:01", "end": "03:03:06", "text": "campfire ran, but that's what those are"}, {"start": "03:03:04", "end": "03:03:11", "text": "going to be."}, {"start": "03:03:06", "end": "03:03:11", "text": "And we are tminus 15 minutes."}, {"start": "03:03:11", "end": "03:03:15", "text": "Gina, what do you think of this format"}, {"start": "03:03:13", "end": "03:03:17", "text": "where you bring on the weird videos and"}, {"start": "03:03:15", "end": "03:03:19", "text": "we go through them live with the uh with"}, {"start": "03:03:17", "end": "03:03:21", "text": "the chat?"}, {"start": "03:03:19", "end": "03:03:24", "text": ">> Yeah, I like that. I think that that's a"}, {"start": "03:03:21", "end": "03:03:26", "text": "good idea. Uh, we were talking about"}, {"start": "03:03:24", "end": "03:03:30", "text": "this bec because I was trying to send"}, {"start": "03:03:26", "end": "03:03:33", "text": "the the whole team uh videos of whether"}, {"start": "03:03:30", "end": "03:03:35", "text": "or not planes are lying to us and how"}, {"start": "03:03:33", "end": "03:03:37", "text": "much fuel they're able to take on. It's"}, {"start": "03:03:35", "end": "03:03:40", "text": "really interesting. Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "03:03:37", "end": "03:03:42", "text": "something that AJ says often, you know,"}, {"start": "03:03:40", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "is, uh, when we're talking about things"}, {"start": "03:03:42", "end": "03:03:46", "text": "like flat Earth videos, not that they're"}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:49", "text": "they're believable, but they're they're"}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:51", "text": "very interesting. They bring up a lot of"}, {"start": "03:03:49", "end": "03:03:54", "text": "interesting points. So, not to win"}, {"start": "03:03:51", "end": "03:03:55", "text": "someone over, but interesting enough"}, {"start": "03:03:54", "end": "03:03:56", "text": "videos that you know are worth talking"}, {"start": "03:03:55", "end": "03:04:00", "text": "about."}, {"start": "03:03:56", "end": "03:04:02", "text": ">> I agree. And I think it'd be um fun to"}, {"start": "03:04:00", "end": "03:04:05", "text": "do them live with the chat."}, {"start": "03:04:02", "end": "03:04:07", "text": ">> I mean, and even a lot of that how a lot"}, {"start": "03:04:05", "end": "03:04:10", "text": "of our stories came about. I mean, kind"}, {"start": "03:04:07", "end": "03:04:13", "text": "of doing that is how we um uh a few"}, {"start": "03:04:10", "end": "03:04:16", "text": "Christmases ago ran across uh me telling"}, {"start": "03:04:13", "end": "03:04:19", "text": "you about the story of uh of the Giants."}, {"start": "03:04:16", "end": "03:04:23", "text": "And um I forgot what the guy's name was."}, {"start": "03:04:19", "end": "03:04:24", "text": "uh uh with the Giants uh up in uh up in"}, {"start": "03:04:23", "end": "03:04:26", "text": "Canada."}, {"start": "03:04:24", "end": "03:04:29", "text": ">> I forget his name. Giant stories are"}, {"start": "03:04:26", "end": "03:04:31", "text": "always a hit."}, {"start": "03:04:29", "end": "03:04:34", "text": ">> Um I don't think we have time for one"}, {"start": "03:04:31", "end": "03:04:35", "text": "more campfire."}, {"start": "03:04:34", "end": "03:04:39", "text": "All I have left that I think would work"}, {"start": "03:04:35", "end": "03:04:39", "text": "is the uh is the Rainman"}, {"start": "03:04:40", "end": "03:04:44", "text": "because I I'm not keeping track of time"}, {"start": "03:04:42", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "so I'm not sure how long those are"}, {"start": "03:04:44", "end": "03:04:48", "text": "running. I would guess seven or eight"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:50", "text": "minutes."}, {"start": "03:04:48", "end": "03:04:52", "text": "Oh, Andrew Dawson was the guy's name."}, {"start": "03:04:50", "end": "03:04:54", "text": ">> Oh, that guy. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:04:52", "end": "03:04:55", "text": ">> Yeah, Andrew Dawson."}, {"start": "03:04:54", "end": "03:04:57", "text": ">> That's a great video if you guys want to"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:04:58", "text": "check that out. That one does well on"}, {"start": "03:04:57", "end": "03:05:01", "text": "the channel. People watch still watch"}, {"start": "03:04:58", "end": "03:05:03", "text": "the heck out of that one. And um I was"}, {"start": "03:05:01", "end": "03:05:05", "text": "in touch with his his family and his"}, {"start": "03:05:03", "end": "03:05:07", "text": "girlfriend for a little while. Mostly"}, {"start": "03:05:05", "end": "03:05:09", "text": "just to make sure that I wasn't"}, {"start": "03:05:07", "end": "03:05:13", "text": "disrespecting him and his memory and"}, {"start": "03:05:09", "end": "03:05:15", "text": "they said no. They said good stuff."}, {"start": "03:05:13", "end": "03:05:18", "text": "you know, such an interesting story"}, {"start": "03:05:15", "end": "03:05:20", "text": "because um again uh when they reached"}, {"start": "03:05:18", "end": "03:05:23", "text": "out to you, they kind of uh confirmed"}, {"start": "03:05:20", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "some of the stuff that you found not in"}, {"start": "03:05:23", "end": "03:05:29", "text": "your uh in you know the last chapter"}, {"start": "03:05:25", "end": "03:05:31", "text": "that say the debunk I guess. Um but uh"}, {"start": "03:05:29", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "you know before before that when we were"}, {"start": "03:05:31", "end": "03:05:36", "text": "talking about it and I was sort of"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:39", "text": "pitching it to you um I was I was bought"}, {"start": "03:05:36", "end": "03:05:41", "text": "in 100%. This must be government you"}, {"start": "03:05:39", "end": "03:05:43", "text": "know what happened to the guy that sort"}, {"start": "03:05:41", "end": "03:05:46", "text": "of stuff. So, again, really interesting"}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:47", "text": "how it turns out. Um, if you're a fan of"}, {"start": "03:05:46", "end": "03:05:50", "text": "the the show, you probably could figure"}, {"start": "03:05:47", "end": "03:05:52", "text": "it out. Um, but, uh, check it out. It's"}, {"start": "03:05:50", "end": "03:05:54", "text": "It's definitely one that, you know, we"}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:55", "text": "didn't butt heads on. That's not the"}, {"start": "03:05:54", "end": "03:05:57", "text": "right way to say it. It's one that I was"}, {"start": "03:05:55", "end": "03:06:00", "text": "sure I was like, \"Something's wackier"}, {"start": "03:05:57", "end": "03:06:04", "text": "here.\" And I was really surprised and"}, {"start": "03:06:00", "end": "03:06:06", "text": "and dumbfounded by by how it turned out."}, {"start": "03:06:04", "end": "03:06:07", "text": ">> Mike Gforce99. Happy New Year to uh, me"}, {"start": "03:06:06", "end": "03:06:09", "text": "and the White House crew. Looking"}, {"start": "03:06:07", "end": "03:06:11", "text": "forward to many more great stories to"}, {"start": "03:06:09", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "come. Happy new year from Lexi, the"}, {"start": "03:06:11", "end": "03:06:16", "text": "youngest G. All right. Hey, Lexi. We"}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "love the G's."}, {"start": "03:06:16", "end": "03:06:20", "text": "Warick was abducted by aliens once. They"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:22", "text": "emptied my wallet, covered me in"}, {"start": "03:06:20", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "stripper glitter, and crapped my pants."}, {"start": "03:06:22", "end": "03:06:27", "text": "Good times. You know what? I think I was"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:29", "text": "abducted by the same alien when I was a"}, {"start": "03:06:27", "end": "03:06:31", "text": "little younger. Well, a little younger"}, {"start": "03:06:29", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "meaning last time my high school boys"}, {"start": "03:06:31", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "were in Vegas, I was abducted. I was"}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:39", "text": "abducted by those glitter aliens."}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:41", "text": "Got to watch out for those."}, {"start": "03:06:39", "end": "03:06:42", "text": "Luckily, my wife doesn't mind when when"}, {"start": "03:06:41", "end": "03:06:46", "text": "I go to the strip clubs, but you know,"}, {"start": "03:06:42", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "she knows I worked in porn."}, {"start": "03:06:46", "end": "03:06:50", "text": "Gaston, I never I never follow that up."}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:52", "text": "I just say I worked in porn. I just move"}, {"start": "03:06:50", "end": "03:06:54", "text": "on. Gaston, thank you for the 20. Uh,"}, {"start": "03:06:52", "end": "03:06:56", "text": "happy new year everybody from Sweden."}, {"start": "03:06:54", "end": "03:06:58", "text": "Appreciate that. I think it might be New"}, {"start": "03:06:56", "end": "03:07:00", "text": "Year's in Sweden already, right?"}, {"start": "03:06:58", "end": "03:07:03", "text": ">> It should be."}, {"start": "03:07:00", "end": "03:07:05", "text": ">> I think I think you guys are about 8"}, {"start": "03:07:03", "end": "03:07:09", "text": "nine hours ahead of us. We're tminus"}, {"start": "03:07:05", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "t-minus 12. Sabres Spectre, 25 Canadian."}, {"start": "03:07:09", "end": "03:07:13", "text": "Thanks for ringing in the new year with"}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:16", "text": "us to a great 2026."}, {"start": "03:07:13", "end": "03:07:18", "text": "Here's to you."}, {"start": "03:07:16", "end": "03:07:21", "text": "I think I may have a tiny little tiny"}, {"start": "03:07:18", "end": "03:07:23", "text": "drinky tonight. I just got I got to be"}, {"start": "03:07:21", "end": "03:07:27", "text": "careful. Jackson, you got your shot"}, {"start": "03:07:23", "end": "03:07:29", "text": "glass? I finally just got mine, too. I"}, {"start": "03:07:27", "end": "03:07:31", "text": "had them up on the bar. I guess they're"}, {"start": "03:07:29", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "behind there. Yeah, the shot glasses are"}, {"start": "03:07:31", "end": "03:07:35", "text": "fun. I don't know if they're still on"}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:35", "text": "the store."}, {"start": "03:07:36", "end": "03:07:41", "text": "Shot I don't know if we still have any"}, {"start": "03:07:38", "end": "03:07:45", "text": "of those. We might. I just might not"}, {"start": "03:07:41", "end": "03:07:46", "text": "know how to find it."}, {"start": "03:07:45", "end": "03:07:50", "text": "They're not up there. But you know where"}, {"start": "03:07:46", "end": "03:07:54", "text": "they are? They're in the Patreon store."}, {"start": "03:07:50", "end": "03:07:56", "text": "All hail Planet Fitness. You must be a"}, {"start": "03:07:54", "end": "03:07:58", "text": "bot."}, {"start": "03:07:56", "end": "03:08:00", "text": ">> They still build my credit card."}, {"start": "03:07:58", "end": "03:08:02", "text": ">> What's going on is everyone in the in"}, {"start": "03:08:00", "end": "03:08:04", "text": "the video that we're showing has a"}, {"start": "03:08:02", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "Planet Fitness hat on. It's really, this"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:07", "text": "is a full commercial for Platinum"}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:09", "text": "Fitness that's going on."}, {"start": "03:08:07", "end": "03:08:11", "text": ">> Full commercial. If you look at the"}, {"start": "03:08:09", "end": "03:08:13", "text": "wide, uh, they have the basically a"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:15", "text": "whole side of a building's got Planet"}, {"start": "03:08:13", "end": "03:08:16", "text": "Fitness. That had to cost a dollar or"}, {"start": "03:08:15", "end": "03:08:18", "text": "two"}, {"start": "03:08:16", "end": "03:08:18", "text": ">> and all those hats that they're giving"}, {"start": "03:08:18", "end": "03:08:22", "text": "out,"}, {"start": "03:08:18", "end": "03:08:24", "text": ">> right? Wow. Did you see see Shawn landed"}, {"start": "03:08:22", "end": "03:08:29", "text": "on on a Times Square billboard last"}, {"start": "03:08:24", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "month for Patreon? That was crazy."}, {"start": "03:08:29", "end": "03:08:32", "text": "Good for it. Couldn't happen to a nicer"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "guy, to be honest with you. Sean is the"}, {"start": "03:08:32", "end": "03:08:36", "text": "best. Uh, Seek Nine Pete, happy new from"}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:37", "text": "Australia. May everyone have a safe and"}, {"start": "03:08:36", "end": "03:08:40", "text": "joyful new year. Very kind of you."}, {"start": "03:08:37", "end": "03:08:42", "text": "Thanks for the support, Tony. Appreciate"}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:45", "text": "that super sticker. If I didn't say last"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:46", "text": "call, I think I did, but last call. If"}, {"start": "03:08:45", "end": "03:08:47", "text": "you're super chatting now, it's a"}, {"start": "03:08:46", "end": "03:08:49", "text": "donation because I'm not going to be"}, {"start": "03:08:47", "end": "03:08:52", "text": "able to get to it. I mean, I'll go past"}, {"start": "03:08:49", "end": "03:08:53", "text": "midnight until they come drag me out of"}, {"start": "03:08:52", "end": "03:08:54", "text": "here."}, {"start": "03:08:53", "end": "03:08:58", "text": "But I have a feeling that that's going"}, {"start": "03:08:54", "end": "03:09:00", "text": "to be pretty soon after midnight."}, {"start": "03:08:58", "end": "03:09:02", "text": "Be caster, thank you for this money."}, {"start": "03:09:00", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "Happy New Year to you."}, {"start": "03:09:02", "end": "03:09:06", "text": "Jake, what's the f furthest back in time"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:08", "text": "a reincarnated person has been able to"}, {"start": "03:09:06", "end": "03:09:11", "text": "remember? Off the top of my head would"}, {"start": "03:09:08", "end": "03:09:15", "text": "be Dorothy Edy because she remembers"}, {"start": "03:09:11", "end": "03:09:18", "text": "being a priestess during the time of um"}, {"start": "03:09:15", "end": "03:09:20", "text": "Ramsy's the great. So this you know this"}, {"start": "03:09:18", "end": "03:09:22", "text": "goes back to I think this the second or"}, {"start": "03:09:20", "end": "03:09:25", "text": "third dynasty"}, {"start": "03:09:22", "end": "03:09:26", "text": "the at the temple of set. So you could"}, {"start": "03:09:25", "end": "03:09:28", "text": "look up Dorothy Edi. I did a whole"}, {"start": "03:09:26", "end": "03:09:32", "text": "episode on her. It's very interesting."}, {"start": "03:09:28", "end": "03:09:33", "text": "Um she became known as Omati. Darthy Edy"}, {"start": "03:09:32", "end": "03:09:35", "text": "remembered"}, {"start": "03:09:33", "end": "03:09:39", "text": "since she was a child from England of"}, {"start": "03:09:35", "end": "03:09:41", "text": "being a priestess and uh she was able to"}, {"start": "03:09:39", "end": "03:09:43", "text": "learn hieroglyphics and and ancient"}, {"start": "03:09:41", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "Egyptian languages very very quickly."}, {"start": "03:09:43", "end": "03:09:45", "text": "She eventually went over there and"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:48", "text": "became sort of an assistant to"}, {"start": "03:09:45", "end": "03:09:49", "text": "archaeologists"}, {"start": "03:09:48", "end": "03:09:51", "text": "and"}, {"start": "03:09:49", "end": "03:09:53", "text": "at first they thought she was a little"}, {"start": "03:09:51", "end": "03:09:56", "text": "wacky which she was but they would throw"}, {"start": "03:09:53", "end": "03:09:58", "text": "her in some tomb somewhere and she could"}, {"start": "03:09:56", "end": "03:09:59", "text": "find her way around and be like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "03:09:58", "end": "03:10:01", "text": "yeah, here's where the gardens were."}, {"start": "03:09:59", "end": "03:10:03", "text": "here's where fountains were. Here's"}, {"start": "03:10:01", "end": "03:10:06", "text": "where we ate. And like she knew all of"}, {"start": "03:10:03", "end": "03:10:09", "text": "it. So eventually the archaeologists"}, {"start": "03:10:06", "end": "03:10:13", "text": "just made her part of the team. And she"}, {"start": "03:10:09", "end": "03:10:15", "text": "was so valuable that um that at the time"}, {"start": "03:10:13", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "Egyptologists working in Egypt were"}, {"start": "03:10:15", "end": "03:10:20", "text": "forced to retire at age 60 or 65. They"}, {"start": "03:10:18", "end": "03:10:22", "text": "let her stay on. They let her stay on"}, {"start": "03:10:20", "end": "03:10:24", "text": "and she lived in till I think she was"}, {"start": "03:10:22", "end": "03:10:26", "text": "about 90. They let her stay on forever."}, {"start": "03:10:24", "end": "03:10:29", "text": "She was too valuable. and she's the one"}, {"start": "03:10:26", "end": "03:10:32", "text": "who said that under the Sphinx is"}, {"start": "03:10:29", "end": "03:10:34", "text": "Nefertiti's tomb. And remember, we've"}, {"start": "03:10:32", "end": "03:10:36", "text": "got all kinds of we've got the the Edgar"}, {"start": "03:10:34", "end": "03:10:39", "text": "Casey prophecies that there are are"}, {"start": "03:10:36", "end": "03:10:41", "text": "chambers underneath the Sphinx. I mean,"}, {"start": "03:10:39", "end": "03:10:43", "text": "he says that's where the universal"}, {"start": "03:10:41", "end": "03:10:45", "text": "library is. I think I covered that not"}, {"start": "03:10:43", "end": "03:10:48", "text": "too long ago. And now we're seeing"}, {"start": "03:10:45", "end": "03:10:51", "text": "through LiDAR and through GPR that there"}, {"start": "03:10:48", "end": "03:10:54", "text": "are hollow spaces under the Sphinx. But"}, {"start": "03:10:51", "end": "03:10:56", "text": "Zahiwasp won't let us dig. Hey, what"}, {"start": "03:10:54", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "happens after Zahi? Uh, say something"}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "happened to Zahi and he passed away."}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:01", "text": "Let's"}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:02", "text": ">> say someone nudged him down some flight"}, {"start": "03:11:01", "end": "03:11:05", "text": "of steps. I'm just saying. I'm not"}, {"start": "03:11:02", "end": "03:11:07", "text": "hoping. God forbid."}, {"start": "03:11:05", "end": "03:11:10", "text": ">> But if he fell, what happens?"}, {"start": "03:11:07", "end": "03:11:13", "text": ">> Do we know who gets the job after him?"}, {"start": "03:11:10", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "Is it like already set or"}, {"start": "03:11:13", "end": "03:11:17", "text": ">> No, because he doesn't have the job."}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:19", "text": "He's retired. He's not the the supreme"}, {"start": "03:11:17", "end": "03:11:21", "text": "grand wizard or whatever he was of the"}, {"start": "03:11:19", "end": "03:11:24", "text": "antiquities. He's not. He's retired, but"}, {"start": "03:11:21", "end": "03:11:27", "text": "he still wields more power than anybody."}, {"start": "03:11:24", "end": "03:11:29", "text": "So, I think about it. I try not to I"}, {"start": "03:11:27", "end": "03:11:33", "text": "never want to wish death on anyone."}, {"start": "03:11:29", "end": "03:11:36", "text": "That's bad karma. But I do think about"}, {"start": "03:11:33", "end": "03:11:38", "text": "cuz he's 75, but he's 75 and healthy as"}, {"start": "03:11:36", "end": "03:11:42", "text": "a horse. Uh I do think about what"}, {"start": "03:11:38", "end": "03:11:45", "text": "happens when when he goes. Do do things"}, {"start": "03:11:42", "end": "03:11:48", "text": "open up? I mean things in Egypt, not"}, {"start": "03:11:45", "end": "03:11:49", "text": "specifically Giza, but Valley of the"}, {"start": "03:11:48", "end": "03:11:50", "text": "Kings, there's a lot of active work"}, {"start": "03:11:49", "end": "03:11:53", "text": "going on right now. That's that's where"}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:55", "text": "they found the the tomb of uh Tutmis II"}, {"start": "03:11:53", "end": "03:11:57", "text": "was Valley of the Kings. So there's"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:11:59", "text": "stuff happening."}, {"start": "03:11:57", "end": "03:12:03", "text": ">> Kilo's right. Has still has the key"}, {"start": "03:11:59", "end": "03:12:07", "text": "rings. He does"}, {"start": "03:12:03", "end": "03:12:09", "text": ">> tus 99 pyramids, right? There are n over"}, {"start": "03:12:07", "end": "03:12:12", "text": "I think it's 99 pyramids"}, {"start": "03:12:09", "end": "03:12:13", "text": ">> at at least because they're they find"}, {"start": "03:12:12", "end": "03:12:15", "text": "them all the time that they just think"}, {"start": "03:12:13", "end": "03:12:19", "text": "was just a mound that they dig into and"}, {"start": "03:12:15", "end": "03:12:20", "text": "they're like, \"Oh, this is mud brick.\""}, {"start": "03:12:19", "end": "03:12:24", "text": ">> And of course those are younger than"}, {"start": "03:12:20", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "Giza probably and not as well built."}, {"start": "03:12:24", "end": "03:12:28", "text": ">> Correct. Correct. That's what's very"}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:32", "text": "strange about the pyramids is the newer"}, {"start": "03:12:28", "end": "03:12:33", "text": "they get, the worse they're made."}, {"start": "03:12:32", "end": "03:12:38", "text": "You know, it's not Kufu is the that's"}, {"start": "03:12:33", "end": "03:12:40", "text": "the gold standard. But I I I think it's"}, {"start": "03:12:38", "end": "03:12:43", "text": "way older. Way way older."}, {"start": "03:12:40", "end": "03:12:45", "text": ">> Maybe they lost the telemetry data. They"}, {"start": "03:12:43", "end": "03:12:46", "text": "they didn't keep they didn't keep the"}, {"start": "03:12:45", "end": "03:12:47", "text": "data."}, {"start": "03:12:46", "end": "03:12:49", "text": ">> It's where the moon tapes are under the"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:51", "text": "Sphinx, the moon landing tapes."}, {"start": "03:12:49", "end": "03:12:52", "text": ">> Maybe NASA had something to do do with"}, {"start": "03:12:51", "end": "03:12:54", "text": "the"}, {"start": "03:12:52", "end": "03:12:55", "text": ">> Wy Coyote. Do you think Hass is healthy"}, {"start": "03:12:54", "end": "03:12:58", "text": "as a horse because of what he's had"}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:00", "text": "access to? Giza Plateau. Maybe. Maybe"}, {"start": "03:12:58", "end": "03:13:04", "text": "he's had went down there and he got the"}, {"start": "03:13:00", "end": "03:13:06", "text": "the elixir of life that's down there."}, {"start": "03:13:04", "end": "03:13:08", "text": "Edgar Casey said some crazy stuff is"}, {"start": "03:13:06", "end": "03:13:10", "text": "down there."}, {"start": "03:13:08", "end": "03:13:12", "text": "Uh, serrs for 2112."}, {"start": "03:13:10", "end": "03:13:17", "text": "You know what that means?"}, {"start": "03:13:12", "end": "03:13:20", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:13:17", "end": "03:13:23", "text": "A modernday goldfish lives in style, but"}, {"start": "03:13:20", "end": "03:13:30", "text": "you haven't tipped in quite a while."}, {"start": "03:13:23", "end": "03:13:30", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:13:38", "end": "03:13:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:13:43", "end": "03:13:46", "text": "or I'll be living"}, {"start": "03:13:48", "end": "03:13:53", "text": ">> feliche"}, {"start": "03:13:51", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "uh community. Y'all are my kind of"}, {"start": "03:13:53", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "lizard peeps. Well, thank you my friend."}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:04", "text": "vehicle."}, {"start": "03:14:01", "end": "03:14:06", "text": "Any excuse to play rush. There's uh the"}, {"start": "03:14:04", "end": "03:14:10", "text": "Miss Cherries. We are 5 minutes out."}, {"start": "03:14:06", "end": "03:14:10", "text": "Thank you for the super sticker."}, {"start": "03:14:12", "end": "03:14:17", "text": "Uh be Becca's still waiting for me to"}, {"start": "03:14:14", "end": "03:14:20", "text": "just pitch the fishbowl while pisses me"}, {"start": "03:14:17", "end": "03:14:21", "text": "off. Sometimes you see me lose my mind a"}, {"start": "03:14:20", "end": "03:14:24", "text": "little bit. I lose my temper with him"}, {"start": "03:14:21", "end": "03:14:24", "text": "sometimes."}, {"start": "03:14:24", "end": "03:14:30", "text": "Ra would like to pick my brain one day."}, {"start": "03:14:28", "end": "03:14:33", "text": "with like a like an in a device or an"}, {"start": "03:14:30", "end": "03:14:34", "text": "instrument."}, {"start": "03:14:33", "end": "03:14:36", "text": ">> I don't think you'd find me all that"}, {"start": "03:14:34", "end": "03:14:38", "text": "interesting in real life because our"}, {"start": "03:14:36", "end": "03:14:43", "text": "conversation would be a lot like this."}, {"start": "03:14:38", "end": "03:14:44", "text": "Sort of scattered with no direction."}, {"start": "03:14:43", "end": "03:14:45", "text": "I'd be more comfortable if we were"}, {"start": "03:14:44", "end": "03:14:47", "text": "sitting there having a drink together"}, {"start": "03:14:45", "end": "03:14:48", "text": "and I could read super chats. Then I"}, {"start": "03:14:47", "end": "03:14:50", "text": "would be relaxed. But if I just had to"}, {"start": "03:14:48", "end": "03:14:53", "text": "talk like a person, I get I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "03:14:50", "end": "03:14:56", "text": "I'm socially awkward. Straight jacket."}, {"start": "03:14:53", "end": "03:14:59", "text": "Thank you for the 20. Okay. Uh, this is"}, {"start": "03:14:56", "end": "03:15:01", "text": "Isaiah. Dad, let me chat. Your dad's"}, {"start": "03:14:59", "end": "03:15:04", "text": "awesome. Love your videos. They always"}, {"start": "03:15:01", "end": "03:15:05", "text": "make me laugh. I'm glad. Sometimes I"}, {"start": "03:15:04", "end": "03:15:08", "text": "make people laugh when they're not"}, {"start": "03:15:05", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "supposed to."}, {"start": "03:15:08", "end": "03:15:13", "text": "Wow. Long stroker"}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:16", "text": "sends in 101. Godspeed to all. Shields"}, {"start": "03:15:13", "end": "03:15:18", "text": "high. Nano Warriors. Appreciate you,"}, {"start": "03:15:16", "end": "03:15:21", "text": "man. Very generous. Very generous. John,"}, {"start": "03:15:18", "end": "03:15:23", "text": "thank you for that super sticker."}, {"start": "03:15:21", "end": "03:15:24", "text": "Uh, Gary, you want me to keep New York"}, {"start": "03:15:23", "end": "03:15:27", "text": "on the big screen? can do. I think"}, {"start": "03:15:24", "end": "03:15:30", "text": "that's a good idea so I don't miss it."}, {"start": "03:15:27", "end": "03:15:33", "text": "Um, I'll even turn the audio on for the"}, {"start": "03:15:30", "end": "03:15:36", "text": "countdown if you want."}, {"start": "03:15:33", "end": "03:15:39", "text": ">> If you want just to hear everyone shout"}, {"start": "03:15:36", "end": "03:15:42", "text": "shouting and counting."}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:44", "text": "Tina says scattered is cool. I think so."}, {"start": "03:15:42", "end": "03:15:46", "text": "The Nick, would you drink a warm vodka?"}, {"start": "03:15:44", "end": "03:15:48", "text": "Sure."}, {"start": "03:15:46", "end": "03:15:51", "text": "Sure. If it's good vodka, I'll drink it"}, {"start": "03:15:48", "end": "03:15:53", "text": "warm."}, {"start": "03:15:51", "end": "03:15:54", "text": "Like I don't drink beer. I don't think"}, {"start": "03:15:53", "end": "03:15:56", "text": "you guys know it, but I probably said it"}, {"start": "03:15:54", "end": "03:15:59", "text": "before. I haven't had a beer since 1996."}, {"start": "03:15:56", "end": "03:16:02", "text": "Not a beer guy,"}, {"start": "03:15:59", "end": "03:16:04", "text": "but I will drink a room temperature"}, {"start": "03:16:02", "end": "03:16:06", "text": "Guinness. I will drink that, but it"}, {"start": "03:16:04", "end": "03:16:07", "text": "doesn't feel like beer to me. I'll drink"}, {"start": "03:16:06", "end": "03:16:09", "text": "a room temperature Guinness. Not a cold"}, {"start": "03:16:07", "end": "03:16:12", "text": "one."}, {"start": "03:16:09", "end": "03:16:14", "text": "Uh Nancy, thank you for $50 super"}, {"start": "03:16:12", "end": "03:16:15", "text": "sticker. I appreciate that. Taco Man"}, {"start": "03:16:14", "end": "03:16:17", "text": "wants us to look into the Miami Mall"}, {"start": "03:16:15", "end": "03:16:19", "text": "alien coverup. That will be part of the"}, {"start": "03:16:17", "end": "03:16:22", "text": "episode with the Vegas alien because"}, {"start": "03:16:19", "end": "03:16:24", "text": "that is a very strange case that uh at"}, {"start": "03:16:22", "end": "03:16:26", "text": "Miami shopping mall"}, {"start": "03:16:24", "end": "03:16:28", "text": "had the police response was bigger than"}, {"start": "03:16:26", "end": "03:16:30", "text": "a live shooter. I've never seen a police"}, {"start": "03:16:28", "end": "03:16:32", "text": "response like that. I don't I don't know"}, {"start": "03:16:30", "end": "03:16:36", "text": "how many cars I counted on the screen,"}, {"start": "03:16:32", "end": "03:16:38", "text": "but at least 30 plus two helicopters"}, {"start": "03:16:36", "end": "03:16:41", "text": ">> over a kids fight."}, {"start": "03:16:38", "end": "03:16:42", "text": ">> Over two kids fighting. Yeah. Oh, and"}, {"start": "03:16:41", "end": "03:16:44", "text": "and during their fight, they they threw"}, {"start": "03:16:42", "end": "03:16:47", "text": "fireworks at each other, which I don't"}, {"start": "03:16:44", "end": "03:16:49", "text": "know how many fights anyone's seen here."}, {"start": "03:16:47", "end": "03:16:52", "text": "It's not doesn't happen very often, a"}, {"start": "03:16:49", "end": "03:16:54", "text": "fireworks fight in the middle of a mall."}, {"start": "03:16:52", "end": "03:16:56", "text": ">> Yeah, very rarely do I walk into a bar"}, {"start": "03:16:54", "end": "03:16:58", "text": "with a with a a pocket full of black"}, {"start": "03:16:56", "end": "03:17:00", "text": "cats."}, {"start": "03:16:58", "end": "03:17:02", "text": "Well, not a terrible idea. Bird, thank"}, {"start": "03:17:00", "end": "03:17:03", "text": "you for the 50. Very generous. Uh, thank"}, {"start": "03:17:02", "end": "03:17:05", "text": "you and the Wows crew. This channel"}, {"start": "03:17:03", "end": "03:17:07", "text": "gives great joy to so many. Please know"}, {"start": "03:17:05", "end": "03:17:09", "text": "that you are appreciated. Happy New"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:11", "text": "Year, Hecklefish. You are appreciated."}, {"start": "03:17:09", "end": "03:17:13", "text": "All you guys are um thank you so much"}, {"start": "03:17:11", "end": "03:17:15", "text": "for the super super chats, the super"}, {"start": "03:17:13", "end": "03:17:16", "text": "stickers,"}, {"start": "03:17:15", "end": "03:17:18", "text": "uh joining. I see people are joining"}, {"start": "03:17:16", "end": "03:17:21", "text": "Patreon uh during the stream. That's"}, {"start": "03:17:18", "end": "03:17:23", "text": "great."}, {"start": "03:17:21", "end": "03:17:25", "text": "Um yes, bike guy. I'll I'll put the"}, {"start": "03:17:23", "end": "03:17:28", "text": "countdown on. I keep the sound off"}, {"start": "03:17:25", "end": "03:17:30", "text": "mostly so we don't get copyright strike."}, {"start": "03:17:28", "end": "03:17:31", "text": "I mean, I don't monetize these anyway,"}, {"start": "03:17:30", "end": "03:17:33", "text": "so I don't really care about that. But"}, {"start": "03:17:31", "end": "03:17:35", "text": "if you get the copyright strike, they"}, {"start": "03:17:33", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "bury the video. And you guys aren't"}, {"start": "03:17:35", "end": "03:17:39", "text": "seeing ads, right? because I don't mon I"}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:41", "text": "don't monetize the live streams. So, you"}, {"start": "03:17:39", "end": "03:17:43", "text": "shouldn't be seeing a single ad for"}, {"start": "03:17:41", "end": "03:17:45", "text": "these. Um, and that's why I do the"}, {"start": "03:17:43", "end": "03:17:46", "text": "premieres"}, {"start": "03:17:45", "end": "03:17:48", "text": "because there's no ads on the premieres."}, {"start": "03:17:46", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "I mean, they may make you watch one"}, {"start": "03:17:48", "end": "03:17:54", "text": "before, but during the show, no ads. At"}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:56", "text": "least that's what they tell me."}, {"start": "03:17:54", "end": "03:17:58", "text": "YouTube's been very aggressive with the"}, {"start": "03:17:56", "end": "03:18:02", "text": "uh with the ads. They took a lot of that"}, {"start": "03:17:58", "end": "03:18:02", "text": "control away from us."}, {"start": "03:18:03", "end": "03:18:06", "text": "Leonard, thank you for the 50 bucks."}, {"start": "03:18:04", "end": "03:18:08", "text": "Just finished building my YouTube set"}, {"start": "03:18:06", "end": "03:18:09", "text": "this week. Working my first real video"}, {"start": "03:18:08", "end": "03:18:12", "text": "doing a deep dive on Yuri Geller. Oo,"}, {"start": "03:18:09", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "the the p the spoon bender and the"}, {"start": "03:18:12", "end": "03:18:15", "text": "relationship between magic, the psychic"}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:19", "text": "era and euphology. Appreciate what you"}, {"start": "03:18:15", "end": "03:18:21", "text": "do. Happy New Year. Um, let's effing go."}, {"start": "03:18:19", "end": "03:18:22", "text": "Good luck with that, Leonardo. Hey, you"}, {"start": "03:18:21", "end": "03:18:23", "text": "wouldn't be the first one to build a"}, {"start": "03:18:22", "end": "03:18:25", "text": "Wile set and start telling these"}, {"start": "03:18:23", "end": "03:18:28", "text": "stories. There's quite a few of those"}, {"start": "03:18:25", "end": "03:18:29", "text": "out there. And Yur Geller is interesting"}, {"start": "03:18:28", "end": "03:18:31", "text": "because"}, {"start": "03:18:29", "end": "03:18:33", "text": "not completely debunked and he was part"}, {"start": "03:18:31", "end": "03:18:36", "text": "of Project Stargate. He was one of the"}, {"start": "03:18:33", "end": "03:18:38", "text": "OGs at Stargate. Um, you know, with Ingo"}, {"start": "03:18:36", "end": "03:18:40", "text": "Swan, Pat Price,"}, {"start": "03:18:38", "end": "03:18:46", "text": "and of course, Joe McMonagle. Yuri, Yuri"}, {"start": "03:18:40", "end": "03:18:46", "text": "was there in the late 60s, early 70s."}, {"start": "03:18:46", "end": "03:18:51", "text": "There's our countdown. I'll bring it up"}, {"start": "03:18:48", "end": "03:18:52", "text": "at uh I guess I guess this year's"}, {"start": "03:18:51", "end": "03:18:55", "text": "countdown is brought to you by Kia Kia"}, {"start": "03:18:52", "end": "03:18:57", "text": "Motors."}, {"start": "03:18:55", "end": "03:18:59", "text": "Uh Joe P, the official beard. Hey, Jay"}, {"start": "03:18:57", "end": "03:19:00", "text": "Wild files gang. Thanks for all you do."}, {"start": "03:18:59", "end": "03:19:02", "text": "You all appreciate it. Looking forward"}, {"start": "03:19:00", "end": "03:19:03", "text": "to more of the Wild Files 2026. Can't"}, {"start": "03:19:02", "end": "03:19:05", "text": "wait for the basement. Happy New Year."}, {"start": "03:19:03", "end": "03:19:10", "text": "Happy New Year to you. JP is the"}, {"start": "03:19:05", "end": "03:19:10", "text": "official beard of the Wild Files."}, {"start": "03:19:10", "end": "03:19:15", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:19:12", "end": "03:19:15", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "03:19:15", "end": "03:19:20", "text": ">> Here we go."}, {"start": "03:19:18", "end": "03:19:28", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "03:19:20", "end": "03:19:28", "text": "6 5 4 3 2 1"}, {"start": "03:19:29", "end": "03:19:33", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "03:19:36", "end": "03:19:39", "text": "Happy new year, y'all."}, {"start": "03:19:43", "end": "03:19:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:19:47", "end": "03:19:50", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "03:19:50", "end": "03:19:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:19:57", "end": "03:20:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:19:59", "end": "03:20:04", "text": "2026. It almost looked like 2024 for a"}, {"start": "03:20:01", "end": "03:20:04", "text": "second."}, {"start": "03:20:09", "end": "03:20:13", "text": "Should"}, {"start": "03:20:11", "end": "03:20:21", "text": "acquaintance"}, {"start": "03:20:13", "end": "03:20:25", "text": "be forgot and never brought to mind?"}, {"start": "03:20:21", "end": "03:20:30", "text": "Should all acquaintance"}, {"start": "03:20:25", "end": "03:20:33", "text": "be forgot and"}, {"start": "03:20:30", "end": "03:20:33", "text": "len"}, {"start": "03:20:33", "end": "03:20:37", "text": "for ally"}, {"start": "03:20:38", "end": "03:20:43", "text": "my dear for ally"}, {"start": "03:20:46", "end": "03:20:55", "text": "we'll take a cup of kindness"}, {"start": "03:20:51", "end": "03:20:56", "text": "yet for"}, {"start": "03:20:55", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "my"}, {"start": "03:20:56", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:21:00", "end": "03:21:05", "text": "happy new year everybody."}, {"start": "03:21:03", "end": "03:21:10", "text": "You are appreciated."}, {"start": "03:21:05", "end": "03:21:10", "text": "[Laughter]"}, {"start": "03:21:15", "end": "03:21:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:30", "text": "I was muted. Happy New Year everybody."}, {"start": "03:21:26", "end": "03:21:32", "text": "We did it. We got through one moreish."}, {"start": "03:21:30", "end": "03:21:34", "text": "What a rockstar. Uh Jen popped in but"}, {"start": "03:21:32", "end": "03:21:36", "text": "you couldn't see her. She wanted to say"}, {"start": "03:21:34", "end": "03:21:38", "text": "happy new year to everybody. I guess"}, {"start": "03:21:36", "end": "03:21:41", "text": "that's a Kia that he's on."}, {"start": "03:21:38", "end": "03:21:44", "text": ">> Yep. This is a commercial for Kia and"}, {"start": "03:21:41", "end": "03:21:47", "text": "Planet Fitness."}, {"start": "03:21:44", "end": "03:21:49", "text": "Kia's got a new has got a new ride out"}, {"start": "03:21:47", "end": "03:21:54", "text": "that looks pretty cool. Kia's making"}, {"start": "03:21:49", "end": "03:21:54", "text": "some good cars. Got me thinking."}, {"start": "03:21:54", "end": "03:21:59", "text": "Dwayne with a happy new year. You guys"}, {"start": "03:21:55", "end": "03:21:59", "text": "want me to keep Time Square up."}, {"start": "03:22:00", "end": "03:22:05", "text": "Um Ivy, I don't know if I would I'd have"}, {"start": "03:22:02", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "Bob Lazar on I guess because he he's a"}, {"start": "03:22:05", "end": "03:22:07", "text": "good guest, but I don't think I would"}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "bring anything different to the"}, {"start": "03:22:07", "end": "03:22:14", "text": "conversation that he hasn't said over"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:16", "text": "the past 30 40 years."}, {"start": "03:22:14", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "But yeah, I'd be happy to have him."}, {"start": "03:22:16", "end": "03:22:22", "text": "Uh Dwayne, happy new year to you."}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:25", "text": "Need my nicotine. Me too, man. Looking"}, {"start": "03:22:22", "end": "03:22:27", "text": "forward to the basement."}, {"start": "03:22:25", "end": "03:22:29", "text": "Rev. Making the nights cozy. Appreciate"}, {"start": "03:22:27", "end": "03:22:31", "text": "you."}, {"start": "03:22:29", "end": "03:22:32", "text": "What about central time zone? Says one"}, {"start": "03:22:31", "end": "03:22:36", "text": "accord. We're the ones that matter."}, {"start": "03:22:32", "end": "03:22:37", "text": "Central. It's in the name."}, {"start": "03:22:36", "end": "03:22:39", "text": "I had nothing but love for Central. Look"}, {"start": "03:22:37", "end": "03:22:40", "text": "where I'm at. It's not midnight yet"}, {"start": "03:22:39", "end": "03:22:42", "text": "here. It's not New Year's yet. It's only"}, {"start": "03:22:40", "end": "03:22:44", "text": "9:00."}, {"start": "03:22:42", "end": "03:22:47", "text": "But to me, it's it's about the ball."}, {"start": "03:22:44", "end": "03:22:50", "text": "When the ball drops, it's official"}, {"start": "03:22:47", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "wherever I am."}, {"start": "03:22:50", "end": "03:22:54", "text": "And now all I'm going to be thinking"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:56", "text": "about is Planet Fitness and how they"}, {"start": "03:22:54", "end": "03:22:59", "text": "still charge my credit card 3 years"}, {"start": "03:22:56", "end": "03:23:01", "text": "after I left this state."}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:03", "text": "Such a scam. They're trying to cancel"}, {"start": "03:23:01", "end": "03:23:05", "text": "that for a year. You got to write a"}, {"start": "03:23:03", "end": "03:23:07", "text": "letter. They're like, \"You got to write"}, {"start": "03:23:05", "end": "03:23:08", "text": "a letter and then you got to come in.\""}, {"start": "03:23:07", "end": "03:23:11", "text": "It's like, \"I don't live in Plano, Texas"}, {"start": "03:23:08", "end": "03:23:12", "text": "anymore.\" Like, well,"}, {"start": "03:23:11", "end": "03:23:15", "text": "I guess you keep paying the 20 bucks a"}, {"start": "03:23:12", "end": "03:23:15", "text": "month."}, {"start": "03:23:19", "end": "03:23:26", "text": "Nicholas feels the same way."}, {"start": "03:23:22", "end": "03:23:29", "text": "Mr. Evan, you just became a man, huh?"}, {"start": "03:23:26", "end": "03:23:30", "text": "The Kia's logo is bigger than the year."}, {"start": "03:23:29", "end": "03:23:32", "text": "Oh, now they're running they're going to"}, {"start": "03:23:30", "end": "03:23:33", "text": "run a spot."}, {"start": "03:23:32", "end": "03:23:36", "text": "We're not going to give them any any"}, {"start": "03:23:33", "end": "03:23:38", "text": "extra press."}, {"start": "03:23:36", "end": "03:23:39", "text": "Blue Angel father-in-law pass. Sorry to"}, {"start": "03:23:38", "end": "03:23:42", "text": "hear that. And the bell in his bedroom"}, {"start": "03:23:39", "end": "03:23:44", "text": "went off like crazy. He was at hospital"}, {"start": "03:23:42", "end": "03:23:46", "text": "though no one at home to ring us for"}, {"start": "03:23:44", "end": "03:23:48", "text": "help. He was saying goodbye. Totally"}, {"start": "03:23:46", "end": "03:23:50", "text": "agree with that. Totally agree with"}, {"start": "03:23:48", "end": "03:23:53", "text": "that. After my grandfather passed, my"}, {"start": "03:23:50", "end": "03:23:56", "text": "dad had a bunch of his stuff uh and had"}, {"start": "03:23:53", "end": "03:24:00", "text": "he had he had my grandfather's VCR,"}, {"start": "03:23:56", "end": "03:24:01", "text": "which for sure was haunted cuz it would"}, {"start": "03:24:00", "end": "03:24:04", "text": "go on and off in the middle of the"}, {"start": "03:24:01", "end": "03:24:06", "text": "night. Eject the tape, suck it back in,"}, {"start": "03:24:04", "end": "03:24:08", "text": "eject the tape, suck it back in. And dad"}, {"start": "03:24:06", "end": "03:24:12", "text": "swears it happened when it wasn't"}, {"start": "03:24:08", "end": "03:24:14", "text": "plugged in. But the spookiest one was"}, {"start": "03:24:12", "end": "03:24:16", "text": "and dad's dresser had a mirror on it"}, {"start": "03:24:14", "end": "03:24:19", "text": "like you guys see. Common dresser"}, {"start": "03:24:16", "end": "03:24:22", "text": "mirror. And he had photos shoved all in"}, {"start": "03:24:19", "end": "03:24:25", "text": "it. And it on the side, you know, maybe"}, {"start": "03:24:22", "end": "03:24:27", "text": "about here was a picture of his father"}, {"start": "03:24:25", "end": "03:24:29", "text": "and pictures of of us and I don't know,"}, {"start": "03:24:27", "end": "03:24:30", "text": "his countless wives and girlfriends. I"}, {"start": "03:24:29", "end": "03:24:33", "text": "don't know who was there, but grandpa"}, {"start": "03:24:30", "end": "03:24:34", "text": "was up here. And then dad would wake up"}, {"start": "03:24:33", "end": "03:24:36", "text": "in the morning and the photo would be"}, {"start": "03:24:34", "end": "03:24:38", "text": "down here. It would somehow slide past"}, {"start": "03:24:36", "end": "03:24:41", "text": "all those other photos and end up down"}, {"start": "03:24:38", "end": "03:24:44", "text": "here. He'd move it back up next morning"}, {"start": "03:24:41", "end": "03:24:47", "text": "down there. Up down there. He had"}, {"start": "03:24:44", "end": "03:24:50", "text": "grandfather's old tape player, cassette"}, {"start": "03:24:47", "end": "03:24:52", "text": "player. Would not work, but it would"}, {"start": "03:24:50", "end": "03:24:54", "text": "play one tape. It would play Marilonza,"}, {"start": "03:24:52", "end": "03:24:57", "text": "grandpa's favorite tape. It would play"}, {"start": "03:24:54", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "that tape and only that tape. And all"}, {"start": "03:24:57", "end": "03:25:02", "text": "this was happening when I was in college"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:03", "text": "and I was staying at dad's and I was"}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:06", "text": "just crashing like in the back room"}, {"start": "03:25:03", "end": "03:25:08", "text": "where dad just kept all his junk piled."}, {"start": "03:25:06", "end": "03:25:10", "text": "And there was one day I was I don't know"}, {"start": "03:25:08", "end": "03:25:13", "text": "what I was doing sitting at my desk"}, {"start": "03:25:10", "end": "03:25:16", "text": "doing some nonsense and in the mirror I"}, {"start": "03:25:13", "end": "03:25:19", "text": "see a reflection of a light like an"}, {"start": "03:25:16", "end": "03:25:22", "text": "orange light tiny dot."}, {"start": "03:25:19", "end": "03:25:25", "text": "It looks like like it it kind of flares"}, {"start": "03:25:22", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "up like smoking a cigarette. I turn"}, {"start": "03:25:25", "end": "03:25:29", "text": "around, there's nothing there. And I"}, {"start": "03:25:27", "end": "03:25:31", "text": "walk out to the hallway and I smell"}, {"start": "03:25:29", "end": "03:25:32", "text": "grandpa's cigar. He smoked cherry"}, {"start": "03:25:31", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "cigars. You know, this is a guinea from"}, {"start": "03:25:32", "end": "03:25:37", "text": "the Bronx. Smelled the cigar. And I was"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:40", "text": "reluctant to tell dad about it, but I"}, {"start": "03:25:37", "end": "03:25:42", "text": "did. And that's when dad said, \"You know"}, {"start": "03:25:40", "end": "03:25:44", "text": "what? Sit down. I got to tell you some"}, {"start": "03:25:42", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "stories.\" And that's when I found out"}, {"start": "03:25:44", "end": "03:25:47", "text": "the whole house was haunted with my"}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:50", "text": "grandfather."}, {"start": "03:25:47", "end": "03:25:51", "text": "And uh I was like, \"You know what, Pop?"}, {"start": "03:25:50", "end": "03:25:53", "text": "I don't need to stay here for college. I"}, {"start": "03:25:51", "end": "03:25:55", "text": "could I'll just commute. I'll just I"}, {"start": "03:25:53", "end": "03:25:56", "text": "could commute. I don't need this. And I"}, {"start": "03:25:55", "end": "03:25:59", "text": "was out of there in like in like 10"}, {"start": "03:25:56", "end": "03:26:01", "text": "days. I I just started packing. I'm"}, {"start": "03:25:59", "end": "03:26:02", "text": "good. I love my grandfather, but I don't"}, {"start": "03:26:01", "end": "03:26:04", "text": "need him looking over my shoulder"}, {"start": "03:26:02", "end": "03:26:07", "text": "smoking cigars. I'm not I'm not mad"}, {"start": "03:26:04", "end": "03:26:09", "text": "enough for that."}, {"start": "03:26:07", "end": "03:26:10", "text": "Gino can corroborate everything I just"}, {"start": "03:26:09", "end": "03:26:13", "text": "said."}, {"start": "03:26:10", "end": "03:26:17", "text": ">> Absolutely. Absolutely."}, {"start": "03:26:13", "end": "03:26:17", "text": ">> So, yeah, I believe in that stuff."}, {"start": "03:26:17", "end": "03:26:23", "text": "There was another time after grandpa"}, {"start": "03:26:19", "end": "03:26:28", "text": "passed that we um uh that our our aunt"}, {"start": "03:26:23", "end": "03:26:32", "text": "uh Janine had uh gotten me and dad uh uh"}, {"start": "03:26:28", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "readings from uh Long Island psychic uh"}, {"start": "03:26:32", "end": "03:26:40", "text": "um Giring uh uh uh was her last name."}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:42", "text": "Uh, and she as soon as I walked in, she"}, {"start": "03:26:40", "end": "03:26:44", "text": "knew things I couldn't believe she knew,"}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:46", "text": "which sort of made Josephine Gearing"}, {"start": "03:26:44", "end": "03:26:49", "text": "made me a a believer. And one of the"}, {"start": "03:26:46", "end": "03:26:51", "text": "things that that uh she said to dad was"}, {"start": "03:26:49", "end": "03:26:53", "text": "that grandpa is just thinks he's asleep"}, {"start": "03:26:51", "end": "03:26:55", "text": "and is trying to say, \"Wake me up.\" And"}, {"start": "03:26:53", "end": "03:26:56", "text": "that's why things were happening around"}, {"start": "03:26:55", "end": "03:26:58", "text": "the house. Hey, just wake me up. I'm"}, {"start": "03:26:56", "end": "03:27:00", "text": "trying to wake up."}, {"start": "03:26:58", "end": "03:27:03", "text": ">> Because he died in his sleep. He he just"}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:05", "text": "went to sleep and didn't wake up. 68"}, {"start": "03:27:03", "end": "03:27:08", "text": "years old. God bless, though. That's a"}, {"start": "03:27:05", "end": "03:27:08", "text": "great way to go."}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:13", "text": "Jeffrey, thank you for that super"}, {"start": "03:27:10", "end": "03:27:17", "text": "sticker. Appreciate that. Amy,"}, {"start": "03:27:13", "end": "03:27:17", "text": "appreciate you. Happy New Year."}, {"start": "03:27:20", "end": "03:27:23", "text": "Redlands First, thank you so much. I'm a"}, {"start": "03:27:21", "end": "03:27:25", "text": "custodian in California. Oh, pardon me."}, {"start": "03:27:23", "end": "03:27:28", "text": "It's not professional. Had some rough"}, {"start": "03:27:25", "end": "03:27:30", "text": "days mentally and your videos relax me"}, {"start": "03:27:28", "end": "03:27:31", "text": "and being myself, relaxing right here in"}, {"start": "03:27:30", "end": "03:27:33", "text": "Vacation, Arizona. Thanks for You're"}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:37", "text": "very welcome. Thanks for doing what you"}, {"start": "03:27:33", "end": "03:27:37", "text": "do. You're appreciated."}, {"start": "03:27:38", "end": "03:27:43", "text": "It's not easy work. That's real work."}, {"start": "03:27:42", "end": "03:27:44", "text": "Thomas, thank you for that. Listen to"}, {"start": "03:27:43", "end": "03:27:46", "text": "Wi-Fi podcast every day at work. You"}, {"start": "03:27:44", "end": "03:27:48", "text": "know, the Wi-Fi is also a podcast. Take"}, {"start": "03:27:46", "end": "03:27:50", "text": "us on the road. I'm doing the end of the"}, {"start": "03:27:48", "end": "03:27:52", "text": "show plugs, but yeah, but you can catch"}, {"start": "03:27:50", "end": "03:27:54", "text": "us on podcast platforms. I haven't"}, {"start": "03:27:52", "end": "03:27:56", "text": "checked our stats lately, but we were"}, {"start": "03:27:54", "end": "03:27:58", "text": "creeping up the charts. I think the uh"}, {"start": "03:27:56", "end": "03:28:00", "text": "the Campfire stories might be good for"}, {"start": "03:27:58", "end": "03:28:02", "text": "the podcast. We might we might make the"}, {"start": "03:28:00", "end": "03:28:05", "text": "charts for those, I think, but I'm"}, {"start": "03:28:02", "end": "03:28:07", "text": "always wrong. U Thomas loves the shows."}, {"start": "03:28:05", "end": "03:28:09", "text": "Best show on YouTube. No, with top 10"}, {"start": "03:28:07", "end": "03:28:10", "text": "most. Always look forward to new"}, {"start": "03:28:09", "end": "03:28:12", "text": "episodes. You and Hackle are the best."}, {"start": "03:28:10", "end": "03:28:13", "text": "Happy New Year to you and your family."}, {"start": "03:28:12", "end": "03:28:16", "text": "Same to you, Thomas. Appreciate you,"}, {"start": "03:28:13", "end": "03:28:19", "text": "Frank. Happy New Year from Philly."}, {"start": "03:28:16", "end": "03:28:19", "text": "Love Philly."}, {"start": "03:28:21", "end": "03:28:27", "text": "Or Ryan, why do people kiss God knows"}, {"start": "03:28:23", "end": "03:28:31", "text": "where their mouth has been?"}, {"start": "03:28:27", "end": "03:28:31", "text": "Uh, you sound like you're fun on a date."}, {"start": "03:28:32", "end": "03:28:37", "text": "You do bring up a good point, though."}, {"start": "03:28:35", "end": "03:28:39", "text": "But look, I"}, {"start": "03:28:37", "end": "03:28:42", "text": ">> look, you know, it's really depend like"}, {"start": "03:28:39", "end": "03:28:44", "text": "I'm a germaphobe, but the other day I"}, {"start": "03:28:42", "end": "03:28:46", "text": "was I was cooking. I forget what I was"}, {"start": "03:28:44", "end": "03:28:48", "text": "making. Oh, you g I was making Graham's"}, {"start": "03:28:46", "end": "03:28:50", "text": "uh white gravy. I made biscuits and"}, {"start": "03:28:48", "end": "03:28:51", "text": "gravy. So, I had butter up on the"}, {"start": "03:28:50", "end": "03:28:53", "text": "counter"}, {"start": "03:28:51", "end": "03:28:57", "text": "and uh and I walked away for a second"}, {"start": "03:28:53", "end": "03:28:59", "text": "and came back and Bean, my my my cat,"}, {"start": "03:28:57", "end": "03:29:02", "text": "one of the boys, was just licking on it."}, {"start": "03:28:59", "end": "03:29:03", "text": "Just just licking on it."}, {"start": "03:29:02", "end": "03:29:04", "text": "I don't know. I just scooped that butter"}, {"start": "03:29:03", "end": "03:29:06", "text": "up and threw it right in the pan and"}, {"start": "03:29:04", "end": "03:29:07", "text": "nobody I mean"}, {"start": "03:29:06", "end": "03:29:09", "text": ">> secret ingredient"}, {"start": "03:29:07", "end": "03:29:12", "text": ">> I don't mind it but I mean I know where"}, {"start": "03:29:09", "end": "03:29:14", "text": "his tongue goes and it goes know where"}, {"start": "03:29:12", "end": "03:29:19", "text": "you want to be"}, {"start": "03:29:14", "end": "03:29:21", "text": "but uh other germs I'm a germaphobe"}, {"start": "03:29:19", "end": "03:29:23", "text": "Chris when new podcast start love the"}, {"start": "03:29:21", "end": "03:29:25", "text": "campfires I'm glad you like those I like"}, {"start": "03:29:23", "end": "03:29:28", "text": "the stories that kind of are creepy and"}, {"start": "03:29:25", "end": "03:29:30", "text": "give you chills and are are true um the"}, {"start": "03:29:28", "end": "03:29:31", "text": "new podcast we start shooting in a"}, {"start": "03:29:30", "end": "03:29:33", "text": "couple of days we'll probably start"}, {"start": "03:29:31", "end": "03:29:34", "text": "releasing them early February"}, {"start": "03:29:33", "end": "03:29:37", "text": "depending on how quickly we can get"}, {"start": "03:29:34", "end": "03:29:39", "text": "through the edit."}, {"start": "03:29:37", "end": "03:29:41", "text": "Cheryl, very nice. Thank you. Uh, Gino,"}, {"start": "03:29:39", "end": "03:29:42", "text": "Jen, Victoria, Heckle, Gertie, and team."}, {"start": "03:29:41", "end": "03:29:44", "text": "Thanks for your company today, for your"}, {"start": "03:29:42", "end": "03:29:48", "text": "top shows. Many blessings for 2026. Same"}, {"start": "03:29:44", "end": "03:29:51", "text": "to you, Cheryl. Appreciate you."}, {"start": "03:29:48", "end": "03:29:53", "text": "Wing loves the stories. Here's $5 for"}, {"start": "03:29:51", "end": "03:29:55", "text": "your kung fu fund. We always need money"}, {"start": "03:29:53", "end": "03:29:57", "text": "for that."}, {"start": "03:29:55", "end": "03:30:01", "text": "Truly Jefferson. You like the biscuits"}, {"start": "03:29:57", "end": "03:30:04", "text": "and gravy? Yeah. on on mom's side, we're"}, {"start": "03:30:01", "end": "03:30:06", "text": "white trash Missouri. All due respect to"}, {"start": "03:30:04", "end": "03:30:07", "text": "anyone who's white trash, but you know,"}, {"start": "03:30:06", "end": "03:30:10", "text": "they're from rural Missouri, Possi,"}, {"start": "03:30:07", "end": "03:30:12", "text": "Missouri. You you Google Matt Possi, and"}, {"start": "03:30:10", "end": "03:30:15", "text": "you'll see that everybody in that town"}, {"start": "03:30:12", "end": "03:30:16", "text": "has has my grandmother's name. So, she"}, {"start": "03:30:15", "end": "03:30:18", "text": "she was my great-grandmother. So, she"}, {"start": "03:30:16", "end": "03:30:20", "text": "taught me how to make that old school"}, {"start": "03:30:18", "end": "03:30:23", "text": "biscuits and gravy from the, you know,"}, {"start": "03:30:20", "end": "03:30:25", "text": "from the from the grease in the pan."}, {"start": "03:30:23", "end": "03:30:26", "text": "So, I made that the other day. Just I"}, {"start": "03:30:25", "end": "03:30:29", "text": "was just thinking about her for the"}, {"start": "03:30:26", "end": "03:30:31", "text": "holidays. Came out great."}, {"start": "03:30:29", "end": "03:30:33", "text": "Gina, did you like that? Did you like"}, {"start": "03:30:31", "end": "03:30:35", "text": "the the milk gravy?"}, {"start": "03:30:33", "end": "03:30:36", "text": ">> Oh, I loved it. I mean, you when we were"}, {"start": "03:30:35", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "talking about it the other day brought"}, {"start": "03:30:36", "end": "03:30:40", "text": "up another weird memory. Maybe you"}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:43", "text": "remember this. Uh she was making it for"}, {"start": "03:30:40", "end": "03:30:45", "text": "us one time and uh it was one of the"}, {"start": "03:30:43", "end": "03:30:48", "text": "years that the locusts were around. So,"}, {"start": "03:30:45", "end": "03:30:50", "text": "it attached itself to the window and we"}, {"start": "03:30:48", "end": "03:30:52", "text": "was like right in our face uh making"}, {"start": "03:30:50", "end": "03:30:55", "text": "that the loud noise. And I just"}, {"start": "03:30:52", "end": "03:30:57", "text": "specifically remember sitting around"}, {"start": "03:30:55", "end": "03:30:59", "text": "eating the uh uh the milk gravy is I"}, {"start": "03:30:57", "end": "03:30:59", "text": "think we called it milk gravy. Right. We"}, {"start": "03:30:59", "end": "03:31:03", "text": "did."}, {"start": "03:30:59", "end": "03:31:06", "text": ">> Um and uh you know uh and and that"}, {"start": "03:31:03", "end": "03:31:07", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "03:31:06", "end": "03:31:09", "text": ">> Pharaoh's light. Bacon grease makes"}, {"start": "03:31:07", "end": "03:31:11", "text": "amazing gravy but salty. I like that"}, {"start": "03:31:09", "end": "03:31:14", "text": "though. We're the same way. We we use a"}, {"start": "03:31:11", "end": "03:31:16", "text": "lot of salt in this house. So bacon"}, {"start": "03:31:14", "end": "03:31:19", "text": "grease is magic. So what I will do is I"}, {"start": "03:31:16", "end": "03:31:21", "text": "will buy two pounds of it. you know, go"}, {"start": "03:31:19", "end": "03:31:24", "text": "Costco, buy two pound, and I'll just fry"}, {"start": "03:31:21", "end": "03:31:26", "text": "up all the bacon and bake it in the pan"}, {"start": "03:31:24", "end": "03:31:28", "text": "and I take all that grease and I put it"}, {"start": "03:31:26", "end": "03:31:31", "text": "in a jar and I put it in the fridge and"}, {"start": "03:31:28", "end": "03:31:33", "text": "I use it for all kinds of stuff. Like,"}, {"start": "03:31:31", "end": "03:31:35", "text": "you guys know what a Cuban sandwich is,"}, {"start": "03:31:33", "end": "03:31:36", "text": "right? You guys eat Kubanos? Do you know"}, {"start": "03:31:35", "end": "03:31:37", "text": "you know what a Cuban sandwich is?"}, {"start": "03:31:36", "end": "03:31:39", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "03:31:37", "end": "03:31:42", "text": ">> So, like turkey and the ham and all"}, {"start": "03:31:39", "end": "03:31:43", "text": "that. I I don't I don't fry that with"}, {"start": "03:31:42", "end": "03:31:47", "text": "with vegetable oil or anything like"}, {"start": "03:31:43", "end": "03:31:50", "text": "that. I fry that in bacon grease. M"}, {"start": "03:31:47", "end": "03:31:51", "text": "tasty."}, {"start": "03:31:50", "end": "03:31:54", "text": ">> I render it in the oven. In the oven and"}, {"start": "03:31:51", "end": "03:31:56", "text": "the pan."}, {"start": "03:31:54", "end": "03:31:57", "text": ">> I start I start in the pan, finish in"}, {"start": "03:31:56", "end": "03:31:59", "text": "the oven. Go ahead, Gino."}, {"start": "03:31:57", "end": "03:32:01", "text": ">> One of the other things she used to make"}, {"start": "03:31:59", "end": "03:32:05", "text": "that I that I have seen just once in a"}, {"start": "03:32:01", "end": "03:32:08", "text": "while uh in other places is egg alo"}, {"start": "03:32:05", "end": "03:32:10", "text": "where she used a glass to cut out the"}, {"start": "03:32:08", "end": "03:32:12", "text": "middle, put the fried egg in the middle"}, {"start": "03:32:10", "end": "03:32:15", "text": "of the toast and uh it was like almost"}, {"start": "03:32:12", "end": "03:32:16", "text": "like a grilled cheese toast. Um"}, {"start": "03:32:15", "end": "03:32:18", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "03:32:16", "end": "03:32:20", "text": "with the fried egg in the middle."}, {"start": "03:32:18", "end": "03:32:24", "text": ">> It's the best. Civil 79 bacon grease is"}, {"start": "03:32:20", "end": "03:32:26", "text": "my butter. Same same thing. Bacon grease"}, {"start": "03:32:24", "end": "03:32:29", "text": "is great in tater salad. I'm going to"}, {"start": "03:32:26", "end": "03:32:32", "text": "try that. It just it just adds that"}, {"start": "03:32:29", "end": "03:32:34", "text": "smoky salty flavor. So yeah, I don't"}, {"start": "03:32:32", "end": "03:32:35", "text": "Someone just bacon grease is gold. I was"}, {"start": "03:32:34", "end": "03:32:38", "text": "just going to say that like I don't"}, {"start": "03:32:35", "end": "03:32:39", "text": "waste a drop of that. You cook up bacon."}, {"start": "03:32:38", "end": "03:32:44", "text": "I I put that right in the fridge. I have"}, {"start": "03:32:39", "end": "03:32:47", "text": "it in there right now. Ready to go."}, {"start": "03:32:44", "end": "03:32:48", "text": "Sarah, thank you for the 1999."}, {"start": "03:32:47", "end": "03:32:52", "text": "All right, I'm going to wrap things up"}, {"start": "03:32:48", "end": "03:32:54", "text": "here. I think, right, we don't need"}, {"start": "03:32:52", "end": "03:32:56", "text": "another campfire. I think we I I think"}, {"start": "03:32:54", "end": "03:32:59", "text": "we've peaked. You got to leave them"}, {"start": "03:32:56", "end": "03:33:01", "text": "wanting more, right?"}, {"start": "03:32:59", "end": "03:33:03", "text": "Well, drop them off. Gino, thank you for"}, {"start": "03:33:01", "end": "03:33:04", "text": "stopping by tonight."}, {"start": "03:33:03", "end": "03:33:06", "text": ">> Always."}, {"start": "03:33:04", "end": "03:33:08", "text": ">> Happy New Year to you and the and the"}, {"start": "03:33:06", "end": "03:33:09", "text": "Mac camera and mic. That's the way to do"}, {"start": "03:33:08", "end": "03:33:10", "text": "it."}, {"start": "03:33:09", "end": "03:33:12", "text": ">> Solid."}, {"start": "03:33:10", "end": "03:33:14", "text": ">> All right. There he goes. Happy New Year"}, {"start": "03:33:12", "end": "03:33:16", "text": "to Gino. Gino story hour will be coming"}, {"start": "03:33:14", "end": "03:33:18", "text": "back and we'll be doing um live streams"}, {"start": "03:33:16", "end": "03:33:20", "text": "with Gino and his weird stories with you"}, {"start": "03:33:18", "end": "03:33:21", "text": "guys and we'll do some live"}, {"start": "03:33:20", "end": "03:33:24", "text": "investigation. See what we can prove,"}, {"start": "03:33:21", "end": "03:33:25", "text": "what we can't."}, {"start": "03:33:24", "end": "03:33:28", "text": "Mary Maya, keep it in the freezer. Does"}, {"start": "03:33:25", "end": "03:33:29", "text": "that Does that work?"}, {"start": "03:33:28", "end": "03:33:32", "text": "Well, I see we have some Cuban sandwich"}, {"start": "03:33:29", "end": "03:33:35", "text": "fans. Yeah. If you don't know what a"}, {"start": "03:33:32", "end": "03:33:39", "text": "Cuban It doesn't sound great. Turkey,"}, {"start": "03:33:35", "end": "03:33:42", "text": "ham, pickles, cheese doesn't sound"}, {"start": "03:33:39", "end": "03:33:45", "text": "great, but it's fantastic."}, {"start": "03:33:42", "end": "03:33:47", "text": "It's it's one of those things when I"}, {"start": "03:33:45", "end": "03:33:51", "text": "when I make them for Jen, she she moans"}, {"start": "03:33:47", "end": "03:33:53", "text": "like I've never heard her moan before"}, {"start": "03:33:51", "end": "03:33:56", "text": "when she's eating a Kubano."}, {"start": "03:33:53", "end": "03:33:58", "text": "Chicken, of course. Mustard on there."}, {"start": "03:33:56", "end": "03:34:00", "text": "Extra extra spicy."}, {"start": "03:33:58", "end": "03:34:04", "text": "What mustard does officially go on a"}, {"start": "03:34:00", "end": "03:34:06", "text": "Kubano? I'm not sure. Um,"}, {"start": "03:34:04", "end": "03:34:08", "text": "you know, George likes his his his"}, {"start": "03:34:06", "end": "03:34:10", "text": "mustard hot. I like I like hot mustard."}, {"start": "03:34:08", "end": "03:34:12", "text": "I usually will use grape upon and I'll"}, {"start": "03:34:10", "end": "03:34:14", "text": "mix in a little bit of um Coleman's. I"}, {"start": "03:34:12", "end": "03:34:17", "text": "think that's the name of it. Super"}, {"start": "03:34:14", "end": "03:34:19", "text": "spicy. But like I keep the um the"}, {"start": "03:34:17", "end": "03:34:23", "text": "Chinese mustard. I keep that in the"}, {"start": "03:34:19", "end": "03:34:25", "text": "house. The the like the powdered version"}, {"start": "03:34:23", "end": "03:34:29", "text": "cuz how do you eat wanton soup without"}, {"start": "03:34:25", "end": "03:34:31", "text": "just putting I put in"}, {"start": "03:34:29", "end": "03:34:33", "text": "enough mustard so it just starts to"}, {"start": "03:34:31", "end": "03:34:36", "text": "hurt? That's when I know it's perfect."}, {"start": "03:34:33", "end": "03:34:37", "text": "Like when you when you when you drink"}, {"start": "03:34:36", "end": "03:34:39", "text": "that mustard soup and and it just kind"}, {"start": "03:34:37", "end": "03:34:42", "text": "of burns and the sinuses clear up. It's"}, {"start": "03:34:39", "end": "03:34:42", "text": "that's perfect."}, {"start": "03:34:43", "end": "03:34:48", "text": "You don't know if you haven't had one. I"}, {"start": "03:34:44", "end": "03:34:50", "text": "agree. And I'm new to the Kabanos."}, {"start": "03:34:48", "end": "03:34:52", "text": "It's uh stepdad Bill came back from"}, {"start": "03:34:50", "end": "03:34:53", "text": "Miami and was talking about them. This"}, {"start": "03:34:52", "end": "03:34:54", "text": "is a while ago and I was like I never"}, {"start": "03:34:53", "end": "03:34:57", "text": "heard of it. That doesn't sound great."}, {"start": "03:34:54", "end": "03:35:01", "text": "He's like it's it's good. And I just I"}, {"start": "03:34:57", "end": "03:35:01", "text": "just started making those."}, {"start": "03:35:01", "end": "03:35:07", "text": "Uh, hockey, the calendars should still"}, {"start": "03:35:03", "end": "03:35:07", "text": "be in stock."}, {"start": "03:35:09", "end": "03:35:13", "text": "Let's see. They should still I mean,"}, {"start": "03:35:11", "end": "03:35:16", "text": "unless unless they sold out while we"}, {"start": "03:35:13", "end": "03:35:18", "text": "were streaming."}, {"start": "03:35:16", "end": "03:35:20", "text": "No, if I mean nope, they sold out while"}, {"start": "03:35:18", "end": "03:35:23", "text": "we're streaming. I'm sorry. I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "03:35:20", "end": "03:35:26", "text": "man. They're out. Uh, and I don't think"}, {"start": "03:35:23", "end": "03:35:28", "text": "we're getting anymore"}, {"start": "03:35:26", "end": "03:35:29", "text": "because why do a calendar once the year"}, {"start": "03:35:28", "end": "03:35:32", "text": "started, right?"}, {"start": "03:35:29", "end": "03:35:35", "text": "Um, I'll talk to Victoria, see what she"}, {"start": "03:35:32", "end": "03:35:37", "text": "wants to do, cuz they're a lot of fun,"}, {"start": "03:35:35", "end": "03:35:39", "text": "you know, for all the We've got all the"}, {"start": "03:35:37", "end": "03:35:40", "text": "weird dates in there. Like, here's the"}, {"start": "03:35:39", "end": "03:35:43", "text": "date of the first man on the moon, the"}, {"start": "03:35:40", "end": "03:35:46", "text": "fake the fake man on the moon, uh, shark"}, {"start": "03:35:43", "end": "03:35:49", "text": "awareness day, Roswell incident, Canada"}, {"start": "03:35:46", "end": "03:35:53", "text": "Day, a world UFO day. Like, all all the"}, {"start": "03:35:49", "end": "03:35:55", "text": "months have fun stuff in there. And, um,"}, {"start": "03:35:53", "end": "03:35:56", "text": "and I think I don't I think I"}, {"start": "03:35:55", "end": "03:36:01", "text": "autographed them all. I think they're"}, {"start": "03:35:56", "end": "03:36:02", "text": "all signed. I think"}, {"start": "03:36:01", "end": "03:36:05", "text": "and someone says that I don't sign this"}, {"start": "03:36:02", "end": "03:36:08", "text": "this stuff. I sign everything. I don't"}, {"start": "03:36:05", "end": "03:36:10", "text": "auto pen. I don't auto pen those. I sit"}, {"start": "03:36:08", "end": "03:36:12", "text": "there at the table with my carpal"}, {"start": "03:36:10", "end": "03:36:13", "text": "tunnel. I sign all that stuff myself."}, {"start": "03:36:12", "end": "03:36:18", "text": "Oh, that's shopped at the wildfiles.com"}, {"start": "03:36:13", "end": "03:36:18", "text": "if you want to support the channel."}, {"start": "03:36:18", "end": "03:36:21", "text": "All right, I see the super chats coming"}, {"start": "03:36:20", "end": "03:36:24", "text": "in, but don't do those. Save your money"}, {"start": "03:36:21", "end": "03:36:28", "text": "because I got to get out of here."}, {"start": "03:36:24", "end": "03:36:32", "text": "Happy New Year's roses."}, {"start": "03:36:28", "end": "03:36:32", "text": "Happy to you. XM UFSA,"}, {"start": "03:36:33", "end": "03:36:37", "text": "Jacob, the calendars are gone. I'm"}, {"start": "03:36:35", "end": "03:36:40", "text": "sorry, man."}, {"start": "03:36:37", "end": "03:36:42", "text": "Uh, we'll put out we'll put out like a"}, {"start": "03:36:40", "end": "03:36:44", "text": "poll on on Patreon even for for free"}, {"start": "03:36:42", "end": "03:36:45", "text": "members. You know, you can join Patreon"}, {"start": "03:36:44", "end": "03:36:47", "text": "for free. You don't have to pay. You can"}, {"start": "03:36:45", "end": "03:36:49", "text": "just you can just go over there and be a"}, {"start": "03:36:47", "end": "03:36:50", "text": "part of the community. Um, so we'll put"}, {"start": "03:36:49", "end": "03:36:52", "text": "out maybe a poll on Patreon to see if"}, {"start": "03:36:50", "end": "03:36:55", "text": "you want us to do another run of the"}, {"start": "03:36:52", "end": "03:36:55", "text": "calendars."}, {"start": "03:36:56", "end": "03:36:59", "text": "Victoria will be very relieved because"}, {"start": "03:36:57", "end": "03:37:01", "text": "we didn't sell out of those super fast."}, {"start": "03:36:59", "end": "03:37:03", "text": "We still were sitting on we were sitting"}, {"start": "03:37:01", "end": "03:37:07", "text": "on like 40 of them. I I think we sold"}, {"start": "03:37:03", "end": "03:37:11", "text": "those tonight. So, she was very nervous."}, {"start": "03:37:07", "end": "03:37:12", "text": "Oh, 2027 at a glance is in there, too."}, {"start": "03:37:11", "end": "03:37:14", "text": "And Rob did a great job with the"}, {"start": "03:37:12", "end": "03:37:16", "text": "artwork."}, {"start": "03:37:14", "end": "03:37:19", "text": "Thanks, Ryan. Bought two calendars."}, {"start": "03:37:16", "end": "03:37:20", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "03:37:19", "end": "03:37:22", "text": "JB, you'd buy a calendar. Well, we'll do"}, {"start": "03:37:20", "end": "03:37:24", "text": "it. We'll we'll put it on Patreon. Um"}, {"start": "03:37:22", "end": "03:37:26", "text": "because I don't want to do a run if"}, {"start": "03:37:24", "end": "03:37:28", "text": "nobody really wants them because you"}, {"start": "03:37:26", "end": "03:37:30", "text": "kind of got to you got to do a bunch of"}, {"start": "03:37:28", "end": "03:37:33", "text": "them"}, {"start": "03:37:30", "end": "03:37:36", "text": "and they're not, you know, you see 20 25"}, {"start": "03:37:33", "end": "03:37:37", "text": "bucks. I don't make a lot of money on"}, {"start": "03:37:36", "end": "03:37:39", "text": "those. So I don't want to I don't want"}, {"start": "03:37:37", "end": "03:37:41", "text": "to go out of pocket too much if nobody"}, {"start": "03:37:39", "end": "03:37:43", "text": "wants those."}, {"start": "03:37:41", "end": "03:37:46", "text": "Check out the torso murders, says"}, {"start": "03:37:43", "end": "03:37:48", "text": "Thomas. If if you email that in, I'll"}, {"start": "03:37:46", "end": "03:37:49", "text": "take a look at it. Um might be a good"}, {"start": "03:37:48", "end": "03:37:52", "text": "campfire story. I wouldn't do an episode"}, {"start": "03:37:49", "end": "03:37:55", "text": "on anything about murders. I try to keep"}, {"start": "03:37:52", "end": "03:37:57", "text": "it PG-13. I mean, I don't know why"}, {"start": "03:37:55", "end": "03:38:00", "text": "anyone's kids watch the show. I wouldn't"}, {"start": "03:37:57", "end": "03:38:03", "text": "let my little ones watch the show. But"}, {"start": "03:38:00", "end": "03:38:06", "text": "that being said, nothing warms my heart"}, {"start": "03:38:03", "end": "03:38:08", "text": "more than getting a photo of like"}, {"start": "03:38:06", "end": "03:38:10", "text": "a five and seven-year-old wearing"}, {"start": "03:38:08", "end": "03:38:12", "text": "heckleish t-shirts. I mean, if you look"}, {"start": "03:38:10", "end": "03:38:13", "text": "on our Instagram, we put all those guppy"}, {"start": "03:38:12", "end": "03:38:17", "text": "photos up there. I just love the stuff"}, {"start": "03:38:13", "end": "03:38:19", "text": "from the guppies. And um you can see our"}, {"start": "03:38:17", "end": "03:38:21", "text": "address, our mailing address. or PO box"}, {"start": "03:38:19", "end": "03:38:23", "text": "is on the channel. If you want me to"}, {"start": "03:38:21", "end": "03:38:26", "text": "sign anything, all you just is just send"}, {"start": "03:38:23", "end": "03:38:28", "text": "it in. We'll sign it and send it back."}, {"start": "03:38:26", "end": "03:38:32", "text": "Especially if your kids want something"}, {"start": "03:38:28", "end": "03:38:32", "text": "that would take care of the guppies."}, {"start": "03:38:32", "end": "03:38:39", "text": "Uh Mags 5 wanted to share with you five"}, {"start": "03:38:36", "end": "03:38:41", "text": "1526 celebrating 16 years of NA. Your"}, {"start": "03:38:39", "end": "03:38:43", "text": "channel helps me refocus when I have"}, {"start": "03:38:41", "end": "03:38:46", "text": "urges."}, {"start": "03:38:43", "end": "03:38:48", "text": "O NA. Oh, keep keep going. Keep it"}, {"start": "03:38:46", "end": "03:38:53", "text": "strong. Congratulations, Mags. Very,"}, {"start": "03:38:48", "end": "03:38:53", "text": "very difficult to do. Proud of you."}, {"start": "03:38:54", "end": "03:38:58", "text": "Uh, Jorgle says, \"I'd like you to do a"}, {"start": "03:38:56", "end": "03:38:59", "text": "story on Ashana Dean in the 15th"}, {"start": "03:38:58", "end": "03:39:01", "text": "dimensional universe described in our"}, {"start": "03:38:59", "end": "03:39:03", "text": "books for ages 102.\" Well, send that in"}, {"start": "03:39:01", "end": "03:39:04", "text": "because that sounds like a great"}, {"start": "03:39:03", "end": "03:39:07", "text": "episode."}, {"start": "03:39:04", "end": "03:39:09", "text": "That sounds perfect. There's a happy new"}, {"start": "03:39:07", "end": "03:39:11", "text": "year to Gino. He's still He's still"}, {"start": "03:39:09", "end": "03:39:15", "text": "milling about down there. He's still"}, {"start": "03:39:11", "end": "03:39:15", "text": "He's still watching you."}, {"start": "03:39:16", "end": "03:39:20", "text": "Yeah, there he goes. cuz that's his New"}, {"start": "03:39:17", "end": "03:39:21", "text": "Year's dance and still see for 26 by New"}, {"start": "03:39:20", "end": "03:39:23", "text": "Year's Day will consist of the Twilight"}, {"start": "03:39:21", "end": "03:39:26", "text": "Zone marathon. That's a great call. Love"}, {"start": "03:39:23", "end": "03:39:28", "text": "the Shatner episode with Fortune Time."}, {"start": "03:39:26", "end": "03:39:31", "text": "Yeah, he was a young buck when he was on"}, {"start": "03:39:28", "end": "03:39:33", "text": "the Twilight Zone is black and white,"}, {"start": "03:39:31", "end": "03:39:35", "text": "but yeah, Shatner was on there. A lot of"}, {"start": "03:39:33", "end": "03:39:37", "text": "lot of big stars started on that show"}, {"start": "03:39:35", "end": "03:39:39", "text": "back in the day. Robert Redford, one of"}, {"start": "03:39:37", "end": "03:39:41", "text": "his first roles, if you remember, he"}, {"start": "03:39:39", "end": "03:39:44", "text": "played the Grim Reaper"}, {"start": "03:39:41", "end": "03:39:46", "text": "in an in a really creepy one. All those"}, {"start": "03:39:44", "end": "03:39:48", "text": "episodes hold up. That's one of the best"}, {"start": "03:39:46", "end": "03:39:52", "text": "ones with with Robert Redford, I think."}, {"start": "03:39:48", "end": "03:39:54", "text": "Um, A Time Enough is probably everyone's"}, {"start": "03:39:52", "end": "03:39:56", "text": "favorite, right? Burgess Meredith in the"}, {"start": "03:39:54", "end": "03:39:59", "text": "Apocalypse."}, {"start": "03:39:56", "end": "03:40:02", "text": "Time enough. Time Enough indeed."}, {"start": "03:39:59", "end": "03:40:04", "text": "You guys remember that one? But yeah, I"}, {"start": "03:40:02", "end": "03:40:05", "text": "I'll fire up a Twilight Zone marathon"}, {"start": "03:40:04", "end": "03:40:09", "text": "from time to time because I have them"}, {"start": "03:40:05", "end": "03:40:09", "text": "all downloaded on my Plex."}, {"start": "03:40:09", "end": "03:40:14", "text": "If I brought my Twilight Zone, AJ would"}, {"start": "03:40:11", "end": "03:40:15", "text": "be an awesome pick for host. That's"}, {"start": "03:40:14", "end": "03:40:18", "text": "that's quite a compliment. But but"}, {"start": "03:40:15", "end": "03:40:22", "text": "again, there's only one only one Rod"}, {"start": "03:40:18", "end": "03:40:24", "text": "Serling. Um you know, when he was when"}, {"start": "03:40:22", "end": "03:40:25", "text": "he was doing that show, like when he was"}, {"start": "03:40:24", "end": "03:40:28", "text": "first pitching it, because he started"}, {"start": "03:40:25", "end": "03:40:30", "text": "out as as a writer, as a writer only in"}, {"start": "03:40:28", "end": "03:40:33", "text": "the Midwest and just in later in life"}, {"start": "03:40:30", "end": "03:40:34", "text": "started to catch on as a Hollywood"}, {"start": "03:40:33", "end": "03:40:37", "text": "writer. He didn't even move out to LA"}, {"start": "03:40:34", "end": "03:40:39", "text": "until he was, you know, middle-aged"}, {"start": "03:40:37", "end": "03:40:40", "text": "pretty much. So, he's got this new"}, {"start": "03:40:39", "end": "03:40:42", "text": "Twilight Zone show and they're"}, {"start": "03:40:40", "end": "03:40:44", "text": "auditioning hosts and voice people and"}, {"start": "03:40:42", "end": "03:40:45", "text": "he just"}, {"start": "03:40:44", "end": "03:40:47", "text": "they're going through them and nobody's"}, {"start": "03:40:45", "end": "03:40:48", "text": "quite right until someone's like, \"Rod,"}, {"start": "03:40:47", "end": "03:40:51", "text": "why don't you just do it?\" And he's"}, {"start": "03:40:48", "end": "03:40:52", "text": "like, \"Why? My voice is is we I can't"}, {"start": "03:40:51", "end": "03:40:54", "text": "really do it. My voice is flat. I'm a"}, {"start": "03:40:52", "end": "03:40:57", "text": "heavy smoker, but can you imagine the"}, {"start": "03:40:54", "end": "03:40:59", "text": "Twilight Zone without Rod Serling? Can't"}, {"start": "03:40:57", "end": "03:41:02", "text": "even imagine it."}, {"start": "03:40:59", "end": "03:41:04", "text": "Good night, hamster."}, {"start": "03:41:02", "end": "03:41:06", "text": "Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Happy"}, {"start": "03:41:04", "end": "03:41:09", "text": "New Year from Czech Republic.\""}, {"start": "03:41:06", "end": "03:41:13", "text": "Now, Brimmont started out as an egg. I"}, {"start": "03:41:09", "end": "03:41:13", "text": "think we all did, didn't we?"}, {"start": "03:41:14", "end": "03:41:17", "text": "Oh, I love the one with Agnes Morhead"}, {"start": "03:41:15", "end": "03:41:21", "text": "when with the spaceship that lands."}, {"start": "03:41:17", "end": "03:41:25", "text": "That's a good one. That is a good one."}, {"start": "03:41:21", "end": "03:41:29", "text": "Remember the the the Air Force pilot who"}, {"start": "03:41:25", "end": "03:41:31", "text": "who shows up at the town is empty."}, {"start": "03:41:29", "end": "03:41:33", "text": "Like I want to tell you how they end,"}, {"start": "03:41:31", "end": "03:41:35", "text": "but it but the twists are so good. I"}, {"start": "03:41:33", "end": "03:41:38", "text": "don't want to don't want to blow it, but"}, {"start": "03:41:35", "end": "03:41:41", "text": "that was a great one. Look for that one."}, {"start": "03:41:38", "end": "03:41:44", "text": "Look for the one where the man goes into"}, {"start": "03:41:41", "end": "03:41:46", "text": "a diner to use the phone. Look for that"}, {"start": "03:41:44", "end": "03:41:48", "text": "one."}, {"start": "03:41:46", "end": "03:41:52", "text": "Chicken yet the is talking about the one"}, {"start": "03:41:48", "end": "03:41:54", "text": "with uh with Robert Redford."}, {"start": "03:41:52", "end": "03:41:57", "text": "I think he was like 24 years old, maybe"}, {"start": "03:41:54", "end": "03:41:57", "text": "younger."}, {"start": "03:41:58", "end": "03:42:05", "text": "Dave Anderson, it's your birthday."}, {"start": "03:42:02", "end": "03:42:09", "text": ">> They say it's your birthday."}, {"start": "03:42:05", "end": "03:42:12", "text": "It's my birthday, too. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:42:09", "end": "03:42:16", "text": "They say it's your birthday."}, {"start": "03:42:12", "end": "03:42:19", "text": "We're going to have a good time."}, {"start": "03:42:16", "end": "03:42:23", "text": "I'm glad it's your birthday."}, {"start": "03:42:19", "end": "03:42:23", "text": "Happy birthday to you."}, {"start": "03:42:23", "end": "03:42:29", "text": ">> Here you go. Uh, sober skate shouting at"}, {"start": "03:42:26", "end": "03:42:30", "text": "Gino"}, {"start": "03:42:29", "end": "03:42:32", "text": "for all the haters. Thank you for giving"}, {"start": "03:42:30", "end": "03:42:33", "text": "me the inspiration to start my channel."}, {"start": "03:42:32", "end": "03:42:35", "text": "Longtime viewer. Good luck with it, man."}, {"start": "03:42:33", "end": "03:42:40", "text": "Just stick with it. Stick with it."}, {"start": "03:42:35", "end": "03:42:41", "text": "You'll be fine. Do not give up."}, {"start": "03:42:40", "end": "03:42:45", "text": "That's the only way to truly fail is to"}, {"start": "03:42:41", "end": "03:42:45", "text": "just give up."}, {"start": "03:42:47", "end": "03:42:51", "text": "The dude with the glasses always got to"}, {"start": "03:42:48", "end": "03:42:51", "text": "me. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:42:52", "end": "03:42:54", "text": "Uh, Ra, thank you for the 10. favorite"}, {"start": "03:42:53", "end": "03:42:56", "text": "cocktail you can make at home. Bar"}, {"start": "03:42:54", "end": "03:43:00", "text": "behind you love the show. I go through"}, {"start": "03:42:56", "end": "03:43:02", "text": "phases. I'm mostly a bourbon drinker."}, {"start": "03:43:00", "end": "03:43:04", "text": "So I lately I've been making paper"}, {"start": "03:43:02", "end": "03:43:07", "text": "planes. It's kind of an old school"}, {"start": "03:43:04", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "cocktail, but I've been making those to"}, {"start": "03:43:07", "end": "03:43:11", "text": "be honest. Normally I'll just throw"}, {"start": "03:43:09", "end": "03:43:13", "text": "bourbon with one rock, a little bit of"}, {"start": "03:43:11", "end": "03:43:16", "text": "bitters, and that's kind of it. Um but"}, {"start": "03:43:13", "end": "03:43:18", "text": "if I'm like tonight I'll probably make a"}, {"start": "03:43:16", "end": "03:43:21", "text": "small pitcher because I know Haley will"}, {"start": "03:43:18", "end": "03:43:24", "text": "drink them. A paper plane is um equal"}, {"start": "03:43:21", "end": "03:43:27", "text": "parts bourbon, apperol, amaronino, lemon"}, {"start": "03:43:24", "end": "03:43:29", "text": "juice. Shake, shake, shake, and pour it"}, {"start": "03:43:27", "end": "03:43:31", "text": "over a single rock. It's kind of sweet"}, {"start": "03:43:29", "end": "03:43:33", "text": "and sour. If you like bourbon, that's"}, {"start": "03:43:31", "end": "03:43:35", "text": "that's a good cocktail. But, uh, I was a"}, {"start": "03:43:33", "end": "03:43:37", "text": "bartender for years and years, which is"}, {"start": "03:43:35", "end": "03:43:39", "text": "why it's kind of a ridiculous bar setup"}, {"start": "03:43:37", "end": "03:43:42", "text": "back there. So, if it's a fairly common"}, {"start": "03:43:39", "end": "03:43:44", "text": "drink, I can I can make it."}, {"start": "03:43:42", "end": "03:43:46", "text": "I mean, there's even Galliano back"}, {"start": "03:43:44", "end": "03:43:48", "text": "there. Who has Galliano at their house?"}, {"start": "03:43:46", "end": "03:43:50", "text": "But how do you make a Harvey Wallbanger"}, {"start": "03:43:48", "end": "03:43:52", "text": "without it? Or a slow, comfortable screw"}, {"start": "03:43:50", "end": "03:43:54", "text": "up against the wall. Got to have the"}, {"start": "03:43:52", "end": "03:43:56", "text": "Galliano."}, {"start": "03:43:54", "end": "03:43:59", "text": "Time enough at last, Beverly. Yeah, that"}, {"start": "03:43:56", "end": "03:44:01", "text": "was a great one. Burgess Meredith."}, {"start": "03:43:59", "end": "03:44:02", "text": "He He's like a squirly guy. Works at a"}, {"start": "03:44:01", "end": "03:44:03", "text": "bank and he's always getting in trouble"}, {"start": "03:44:02", "end": "03:44:05", "text": "because he's constantly reading,"}, {"start": "03:44:03", "end": "03:44:08", "text": "reading, reading. He's got super thick"}, {"start": "03:44:05", "end": "03:44:12", "text": "glasses. And then he goes into the safe"}, {"start": "03:44:08", "end": "03:44:13", "text": "and then there's a nuclear apocalypse."}, {"start": "03:44:12", "end": "03:44:16", "text": "And then he comes out and it's this is"}, {"start": "03:44:13", "end": "03:44:18", "text": "awesome because he he he finds his way"}, {"start": "03:44:16", "end": "03:44:20", "text": "to the library"}, {"start": "03:44:18", "end": "03:44:23", "text": "all the books he can ever want and he so"}, {"start": "03:44:20", "end": "03:44:26", "text": "he says time enough at last. Time enough"}, {"start": "03:44:23", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "at last and then you'll see how it ends."}, {"start": "03:44:26", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "Heartbreaking."}, {"start": "03:44:30", "end": "03:44:34", "text": "Can you wish all right we got to going"}, {"start": "03:44:31", "end": "03:44:36", "text": "to have to do it one last time but Carla"}, {"start": "03:44:34", "end": "03:44:38", "text": "Manalad happy birthday big fan. This is"}, {"start": "03:44:36", "end": "03:44:42", "text": "for you Carla."}, {"start": "03:44:38", "end": "03:44:46", "text": ">> Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to"}, {"start": "03:44:42", "end": "03:44:50", "text": "you. Happy birthday. Insert human's name"}, {"start": "03:44:46", "end": "03:44:52", "text": "here. Happy birthday to you. There you"}, {"start": "03:44:50", "end": "03:44:55", "text": "go. That's for Carla. To serve man is a"}, {"start": "03:44:52", "end": "03:44:58", "text": "classic. I mean, I think Hecklefish is"}, {"start": "03:44:55", "end": "03:45:00", "text": "has used that joke a couple of times. I"}, {"start": "03:44:58", "end": "03:45:02", "text": "don't I I wanted to shout the line, but"}, {"start": "03:45:00", "end": "03:45:05", "text": "I can't do it. I don't want to spoil it."}, {"start": "03:45:02", "end": "03:45:07", "text": "You guys get into uh Pluribus at all? If"}, {"start": "03:45:05", "end": "03:45:10", "text": "you're into Twilight Zone, I think you'd"}, {"start": "03:45:07", "end": "03:45:12", "text": "like Plurbus. It's a slow burn, but it's"}, {"start": "03:45:10", "end": "03:45:15", "text": "worth it. It's Vince Gilligan. He can't"}, {"start": "03:45:12", "end": "03:45:15", "text": "miss"}, {"start": "03:45:17", "end": "03:45:19", "text": "uh race. Really enjoy the show and"}, {"start": "03:45:18", "end": "03:45:21", "text": "deliver the story so well and then hit"}, {"start": "03:45:19", "end": "03:45:22", "text": "us with whatever truth you find. It's"}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:26", "text": "Paul Harveyesque."}, {"start": "03:45:22", "end": "03:45:28", "text": "Paul Harvey. Good day. You give us the"}, {"start": "03:45:26", "end": "03:45:30", "text": "rest of the story. Nicely done."}, {"start": "03:45:28", "end": "03:45:32", "text": "Appreciate all you and the crew do. Paul"}, {"start": "03:45:30", "end": "03:45:36", "text": "Harvey is a legend."}, {"start": "03:45:32", "end": "03:45:38", "text": "Chime loves Plurbus. Awesome. Plurbus"}, {"start": "03:45:36", "end": "03:45:41", "text": "was odd and slow. True."}, {"start": "03:45:38", "end": "03:45:45", "text": "True. Maybe a little too slow. Maybe a"}, {"start": "03:45:41", "end": "03:45:48", "text": "little too slow, but uh but Vince got a"}, {"start": "03:45:45", "end": "03:45:50", "text": "two season order, which is rare, but"}, {"start": "03:45:48", "end": "03:45:54", "text": "nice. So, he knows he has a little bit"}, {"start": "03:45:50", "end": "03:45:58", "text": "of time. But he's one of those writer"}, {"start": "03:45:54", "end": "03:46:00", "text": "showrunners that I just I just trust,"}, {"start": "03:45:58", "end": "03:46:04", "text": "right? Breaking Bad. That was a fairly"}, {"start": "03:46:00", "end": "03:46:06", "text": "good show. Better Call Saul. I mean, uh"}, {"start": "03:46:04", "end": "03:46:10", "text": "uh which I like better than Breaking Bad"}, {"start": "03:46:06", "end": "03:46:11", "text": "even. Hang on a second."}, {"start": "03:46:10", "end": "03:46:13", "text": "Hang on a second. I think I'm in"}, {"start": "03:46:11", "end": "03:46:14", "text": "trouble. Come on. Come on over."}, {"start": "03:46:13", "end": "03:46:16", "text": ">> You're not in trouble."}, {"start": "03:46:14", "end": "03:46:18", "text": ">> What's going on? What did I do?"}, {"start": "03:46:16", "end": "03:46:21", "text": ">> You didn't do anything. I was just"}, {"start": "03:46:18", "end": "03:46:24", "text": "coming to"}, {"start": "03:46:21", "end": "03:46:27", "text": "to say that Hi everybody. Happy New"}, {"start": "03:46:24", "end": "03:46:29", "text": "Year."}, {"start": "03:46:27", "end": "03:46:32", "text": "Bird beans brain shouting Jen. Um."}, {"start": "03:46:29", "end": "03:46:34", "text": "Uh-oh. Scarf saying no. No, not yet. Cuz"}, {"start": "03:46:32", "end": "03:46:35", "text": "I told them I said I'll go until someone"}, {"start": "03:46:34", "end": "03:46:38", "text": "comes and grabs me. I said, \"But that's"}, {"start": "03:46:35", "end": "03:46:38", "text": "going to be pretty soon after the new"}, {"start": "03:46:38", "end": "03:46:39", "text": "year.\""}, {"start": "03:46:38", "end": "03:46:41", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "03:46:39", "end": "03:46:42", "text": ">> And here's the hook"}, {"start": "03:46:41", "end": "03:46:44", "text": ">> cuz we'd like to spend some New Year's"}, {"start": "03:46:42", "end": "03:46:47", "text": "time with him."}, {"start": "03:46:44", "end": "03:46:50", "text": ">> Mary Jane saying, \"Hi.\" Um,"}, {"start": "03:46:47", "end": "03:46:54", "text": "here here's the one right here. Mr. Mr."}, {"start": "03:46:50", "end": "03:46:54", "text": "Udo 5 lum."}, {"start": "03:46:55", "end": "03:46:58", "text": "Somebody said it's the broad."}, {"start": "03:46:57", "end": "03:47:00", "text": ">> It's the broad. That's who it is."}, {"start": "03:46:58", "end": "03:47:02", "text": ">> That's me. The broad."}, {"start": "03:47:00", "end": "03:47:03", "text": ">> She's She's the broad. We're very"}, {"start": "03:47:02", "end": "03:47:05", "text": "respectful of women here, right?"}, {"start": "03:47:03", "end": "03:47:07", "text": ">> Yes. Like, what do you what do you what"}, {"start": "03:47:05", "end": "03:47:09", "text": "do you say to a woman with a black eye?"}, {"start": "03:47:07", "end": "03:47:10", "text": ">> Nothing. You already told her once."}, {"start": "03:47:09", "end": "03:47:14", "text": ">> Boom. So, that's why that's why I"}, {"start": "03:47:10", "end": "03:47:15", "text": "married her. Boom. Yeah, she's hot. I"}, {"start": "03:47:14", "end": "03:47:18", "text": "know she's hot. Just take it easy."}, {"start": "03:47:15", "end": "03:47:19", "text": "Relax. Go easy. All right. I'll say good"}, {"start": "03:47:18", "end": "03:47:21", "text": "night and I'll be out there in a moment."}, {"start": "03:47:19", "end": "03:47:23", "text": ">> Okay. Happy New Year, everybody."}, {"start": "03:47:21", "end": "03:47:24", "text": ">> See if Haley wants paper planes because"}, {"start": "03:47:23", "end": "03:47:30", "text": "I'm gonna have a little drinky drinky."}, {"start": "03:47:24", "end": "03:47:30", "text": "Just a tiny. Um, how many people we got?"}, {"start": "03:47:31", "end": "03:47:37", "text": "What I say? Sorry, she's ours now, says"}, {"start": "03:47:34", "end": "03:47:39", "text": "Alchemy. You know what? There are some"}, {"start": "03:47:37", "end": "03:47:41", "text": "days where you can have her. Where you"}, {"start": "03:47:39", "end": "03:47:42", "text": "can have her."}, {"start": "03:47:41", "end": "03:47:43", "text": "I see I said that now because I know"}, {"start": "03:47:42", "end": "03:47:45", "text": "she's in the hallway. She didn't hear"}, {"start": "03:47:43", "end": "03:47:47", "text": "me. Now, now she could probably hear me,"}, {"start": "03:47:45", "end": "03:47:50", "text": "so I'll behave. All right. So, thank you"}, {"start": "03:47:47", "end": "03:47:52", "text": "everyone for the super chats. Thank you"}, {"start": "03:47:50", "end": "03:47:53", "text": "for the great comments. Um, all the"}, {"start": "03:47:52", "end": "03:47:55", "text": "support. I appreciate you buying the"}, {"start": "03:47:53", "end": "03:47:57", "text": "calendars. That was super helpful for"}, {"start": "03:47:55", "end": "03:47:59", "text": "Victoria because if we didn't sell out,"}, {"start": "03:47:57", "end": "03:48:01", "text": "I was going to fire her. She her her job"}, {"start": "03:47:59", "end": "03:48:04", "text": "was on the line. Um, happy new year to"}, {"start": "03:48:01", "end": "03:48:06", "text": "it. Doesn't matter. Spice in RDS rice."}, {"start": "03:48:04", "end": "03:48:08", "text": "Good. Uh, happy new year to you, Peter."}, {"start": "03:48:06", "end": "03:48:11", "text": "Chicken unicorn, Bremonone, always good"}, {"start": "03:48:08", "end": "03:48:15", "text": "comments. Michelle, Catha, Ryan,"}, {"start": "03:48:11", "end": "03:48:17", "text": "everybody. Here's to a great 2026. I"}, {"start": "03:48:15", "end": "03:48:19", "text": "hope everyone has a safe and successful"}, {"start": "03:48:17", "end": "03:48:24", "text": "new year. You are appreciated."}, {"start": "03:48:19", "end": "03:48:24", "text": "Hecklefish will sing you out."}, {"start": "03:48:24", "end": "03:48:34", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "03:48:34", "end": "03:48:40", "text": "And now"}, {"start": "03:48:36", "end": "03:48:42", "text": "the end is near."}, {"start": "03:48:40", "end": "03:48:46", "text": "And so I face"}, {"start": "03:48:42", "end": "03:48:49", "text": "the final curtain."}, {"start": "03:48:46", "end": "03:48:52", "text": "My friend,"}, {"start": "03:48:49", "end": "03:48:55", "text": "I'll say it clear."}, {"start": "03:48:52", "end": "03:48:59", "text": "I'll state my case"}, {"start": "03:48:55", "end": "03:49:01", "text": "of which I'm certain."}, {"start": "03:48:59", "end": "03:49:04", "text": "I've lived"}, {"start": "03:49:01", "end": "03:49:08", "text": "a life that's full."}, {"start": "03:49:04", "end": "03:49:11", "text": "I swam down each"}, {"start": "03:49:08", "end": "03:49:14", "text": "each and every highway"}, {"start": "03:49:11", "end": "03:49:17", "text": "and more"}, {"start": "03:49:14", "end": "03:49:21", "text": "much more than this."}, {"start": "03:49:17", "end": "03:49:21", "text": "I did it my"}, {"start": "03:49:21", "end": "03:49:26", "text": "way."}, {"start": "03:49:24", "end": "03:49:29", "text": "I've loved."}, {"start": "03:49:26", "end": "03:49:32", "text": "I've laughed and cried."}, {"start": "03:49:29", "end": "03:49:36", "text": "I've had my fill."}, {"start": "03:49:32", "end": "03:49:39", "text": "My share illusion."}, {"start": "03:49:36", "end": "03:49:42", "text": "And now"}, {"start": "03:49:39", "end": "03:49:45", "text": "as tears subside,"}, {"start": "03:49:42", "end": "03:49:49", "text": "I find it all."}, {"start": "03:49:45", "end": "03:49:49", "text": "It's also amusing"}, {"start": "03:49:49", "end": "03:49:54", "text": "to think"}, {"start": "03:49:51", "end": "03:49:58", "text": "I did all that."}, {"start": "03:49:54", "end": "03:50:02", "text": "And may I say"}, {"start": "03:49:58", "end": "03:50:04", "text": "not in a shy way."}, {"start": "03:50:02", "end": "03:50:07", "text": "Oh no."}, {"start": "03:50:04", "end": "03:50:11", "text": "Oh no. Not me."}, {"start": "03:50:07", "end": "03:50:11", "text": "I did it my"}, {"start": "03:50:11", "end": "03:50:18", "text": "way. But what is a fish"}, {"start": "03:50:18", "end": "03:50:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:50:21", "end": "03:50:23", "text": "himself?"}, {"start": "03:50:25", "end": "03:50:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:50:30", "end": "03:50:37", "text": "truly feels"}, {"start": "03:50:33", "end": "03:50:41", "text": "the world"}, {"start": "03:50:37", "end": "03:50:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:50:43", "end": "03:50:49", "text": "took the blow."}, {"start": "03:50:44", "end": "03:50:49", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:50:52", "end": "03:51:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "03:50:58", "end": "03:51:03", "text": "Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank"}, {"start": "03:51:00", "end": "03:51:03", "text": "you so much."}, {"start": "03:51:04", "end": "03:51:08", "text": "You guys sounded great tonight. And take"}, {"start": "03:51:06", "end": "03:51:12", "text": "care of those waitresses, will you? All"}, {"start": "03:51:08", "end": "03:51:15", "text": "right, everybody. Get home safe."}, {"start": "03:51:12", "end": "03:51:20", "text": "This is hecklefish."}, {"start": "03:51:15", "end": "03:51:23", "text": "And you know what? I did it my"}, {"start": "03:51:20", "end": "03:51:23", "text": "way."}, {"start": "03:51:24", "end": "03:51:27", "text": "[Applause]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "to you by the basement."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> Let's make the most of this beautiful"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "day. Since we're together, we might as"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "well say, \"Would you be mine? Could you"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "be mine? Won't you be my neighbor? Won't"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "you please? Won't you please?"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Please, won't you be my neighbor?\""}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Hey, television neighbor."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Ah, it's me. Oh, wait. I think we got to"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "do this otherwise people get upset."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Hey, it's me and this is the basement."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Good morning. We're getting some unusual"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "reports this morning. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "there's a new podcast coming out. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "called The Basement."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> The Basement."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> The Basement."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> 30 years of broadcast journalism. I have"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "never, and I want to be very clear about"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "this, I have never reported on something"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "we know absolutely nothing about."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Hold on. You're telling me the guy"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "behind the Y files is launching"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "something called the basement?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> We've reached out to every major"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "platform, Spotify, Apple, YouTube, none"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "of them have any record of The Basement."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "It's as if it doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> The channel that covers government"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "conspiracies, UFOs, secret programs,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "ancient mysteries,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "and nobody knows what it is."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> The Y Files doesn't miss ever. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "whatever this is,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> it's going to be huge."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> But why the basement? What's he hiding"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "down there? This is either the greatest"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "marketing campaign ever or we are not"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "ready for what's coming."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Federal investigators are now involved."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "We don't know why."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> We're now hearing reports from multiple"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "intelligence agencies."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> If what we're hearing is accurate, the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "American people are not prepared for"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "what's coming out of that basement."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> The basement has been detected in 12"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "countries. The Y files guy is doing"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "something new. Something called the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "basement and like nobody knows what it"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> But here's what's weird. He's not"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "promoting it."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> A basement is where you hide things,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "where you keep secrets. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "that name is an accident. I think he's"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "about to go deeper than he's ever gone"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> The basement isn't just a podcast."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "It's a transmission."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "If you've been following the W files for"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "a while, you know that a lot of research"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "goes into the episodes. So, the purpose"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "of the basement is to bring all those"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "interesting people behind the research."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Uh, bring them in here, have"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "discussions, and help us dive a little"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "deeper into the topics that I can't"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "cover in 30 or 40-minute episodes. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "if you like the Y files, you'll probably"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "enjoy the basement. But there's one big"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "difference. I'm known for ending each"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "episode of the Y files with debugging"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "and analysis."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Yeah, I hate that part."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Well, on the basement, we'll just do the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "analysis. No debunking."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> Yeah, see"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> Ultra was real. Co-intel Pro was real."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "In the basement, AJ connects documented"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "programs to ongoing patterns. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "valuable work. UAP phenomena,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "cryptozoolology,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "ancient anomalies."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Now, of course, if someone makes a wild"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "claim, I'll want to know how they"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "arrived at that conclusion. But no"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "aggressive conversations, no debating,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "no gotcha questions. Really, I just want"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "to hear them tell the story."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Anyone can tell you what happened at"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Roswell or Skinwalker Ranch,"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> but the basement gives you the people"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "who were there, the investigators who"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "spent years on these cases, the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "witnesses who've never spoken publicly,"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "the researchers who lost careers over"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "this. The basement takes these"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "experiences seriously. That matters. And"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "just like on the Y files, it's up to you"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "whether you want to believe it or not."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> This isn't folklore. It's data. The"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "basement treats it that way. Mainstream"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "academia won't touch alternative"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "theories. AJ does. And the basement"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "gives researchers space to explain why"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "these artifacts matter."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "When are we doing this?"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> Well, we start shooting next week and"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "episodes will roll out a few weeks after"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> That soon? Uh, okay. I'm going to need"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "to move up my Botox appointment."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Uh, you're probably not going to be in"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "too many of these."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> Just Just relax. You still have the main"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "show to do whatever it is you do. What I"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "do is make you successful, human."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> Do you though?"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> Oh, when this new thing bombs, watch how"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "fast you bring me back."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> We can discuss."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> Actually, you and my lawyers can"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "discuss."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Now, don't worry. Nothing is changing."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "We'll still be doing the Y files like"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "always. The basement is something new"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and it's coming soon. I'm very excited"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and very nervous. I hope you check it"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Long- form dialogue, unscripted,"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "with people who actually know things."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "This could change the medium."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> Hey, thanks for checking out another"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "compilation, Tim."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Excuse me, human."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> I'm not going to."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> Excuse me, human."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> What is it? I'm trying to set up the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "compilation."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> You promised I could do this one."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> Yeah, but I already said"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> You promised."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Fine. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Hecklefish doesn't respond to the CIA."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Ah, hello human. It's me, Morgan. I am a"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "beaver."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Today we're showing a compilation of"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "videos as chosen by the Y files team."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Come on, follow me."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "Hey Gertie, how they humping?"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Hey, boys, hold the work. We have"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "guests."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Hey, what are you doing? Who said you"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "could take a break? Whoa, whoa, whoa."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "You're not my single mold. Hey, get back"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "here, you filthy rodent."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Check it out. This is where the human"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and hecklefish do the show. Pretty cool,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "huh?"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "That's better. Hang on a sec. Can I get"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "a coffee, please? So hard to find good"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "help, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Okay, where were we?"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Hang on. There's something wrong with"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "the prompter. What does that mean? Play"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "us out. Play us out? I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "that means. Play us out. Forget it."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "We'll do it live. I'll write it myself"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "and we'll do it live. The whole thing"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "stinks."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> Here we go. The first episode was picked"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "by Jen. You know, Jen, aka Mrs. Wiles,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "aka the Queen Bee. And B doesn't stand"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "for brunette, if you catch my drift. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "the queen bee chose the dark side of"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "DARPA. Oh, come on, man. You trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "get us demonetized?"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Fine. We'll play it."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "In the early days of the space race, the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Soviet Union racked up a lot of firsts."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Sputnik, the first satellite. Leica, the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "dog, the first animal in space. Yuri"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Gagarin, the first man in space."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Valentina Terishova, the first woman. ZH"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "5, the first spacecraft to the moon."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Meanwhile, America's space program"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "lagged, plagued by setback after"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "setback. There were some successes, but"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "not enough to keep pace with the"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Soviets. America was still planning its"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "first satellite while Sputnik circled"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the Earth. Then Sputnik 2 went up."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "American citizens were terrified. What"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "if the Russians put weapons in space?"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Maybe they already have. Paranoia was"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "starting to become hysteria. President"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Eisenhower was under pressure to act and"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "to act fast. The United States"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "government knew what it had to do."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Create an organization to develop the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "most technologically advanced military"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "systems in the world. And just 3 months"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "after Sputnik 2 was launched, the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Advanced Research Project Agency or ARPA"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "was born. Later, ARPA became DARPA. The"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "D stands for defense. Because DARPA"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "would be both a sword and a shield,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "creating offensive weapons and defensive"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "systems. No project was too expensive,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "and no program was too immoral. DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "secret research would cost many lives."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "But sacrifices had to be made for the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "sake of security. But after all these"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "years, it's time to ask, who are they"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "really protecting?"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Here's"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "the scene. You're driving. It's late and"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the road ahead is dark. You make a turn"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "and then another. You finally realize"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "you're lost. If this were the not too"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "distant past, you'd pull over and grab"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "your Thomas guide."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> Yeah, for you kids, that's a map."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> And if you didn't have a map, you'd try"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "to find a gas station or 7-Eleven to ask"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "for directions. Then your fate would be"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "in the hands of the guy working the"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "night shift"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": ">> who may or may not be a serial killer,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> right? But now all the answers are in"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "your pocket. You tell your phone the"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "address and GPS guides the way. Some"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "cars will even drive for you while you"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "sit back, relax, and listen to your"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "favorite podcast."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> Oh, you know the Y files is also a"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "podcast."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> No plugs yet. Please, we save those for"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "the end."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Sorry. Sorry. I I could sniff out a plug"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "opportunity like a trouble pig."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "The technology I described that got you"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "to your destination, it was created by"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "DARPA. All of it. And there's a lot more"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "of DARPA in your pocket than you think."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Your cell phone uses microprocessors"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "designed by DARPA. They also created the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "batteries to power those"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "microprocessors."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Your phone uses wireless technology made"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "possible by DARPA. The touchscreen and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "the microphone came from DARPA. Voice"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "recognition and GPS come from DARPA."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "And of course, all this data transfer"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "happens using the internet, which was"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "created by DARPA."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": ">> Excuse me if I may."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Uh, is this going to be a highly"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "predictable and hack joke about how Al"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Gore said he created the internet?"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> I I yield the rest of my time. Thank"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> Yes, DARPA created the internet. Well,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "technically they were still ARPA then."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Remember the D was added in 1972. In the"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "1960s, researchers were trying to figure"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "out a way to ensure reliable"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "communications in case of a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "attack. Traditional telephone lines and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "radio transmitters would be the first to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "They came up with a radical idea. Packet"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "switching."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> Now all of a sweet nerd. Some of us went"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "to our prom instead of staying home to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "write code on our Apple 2. Well, packet"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "switching is not as complicated as it"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "sounds. Here's how it works. You want to"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "send a message or file from New York to"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "LA. But what if half the country's lines"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "are down? So, you break that message"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "into small chunks called packets and"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "send each one independently over the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "network. On the receiving end, the"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "message waits for all the packets to"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "arrive and then reassembles them back"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "into the original message or file. Each"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "packet will independently try to find"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the most efficient route through the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "network at any given moment. The"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "internet still works this way. Most"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "people didn't use the internet until the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "late 1990s or early 2000s. Some nerds"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "like me were using our phones to dial"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "bulletin board systems in the late 1970s"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "and early 80s. But this new network"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "called Arpanet was conceived in 1966."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "You were online all the way back then"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "when you were like 12 or 13 years old."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> Yep. I was even younger than that when I"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "first got online."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> And you're proud of this?"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> Well, yeah. Shouldn't I be proud? We"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "didn't know girls existed."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Yes, I knew they existed."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Nah, now I see"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> what"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> girls didn't know you existed."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> I was a late bloomer."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> Boomer."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> Bloomer."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> What' I say?"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Under DARPA's guidance, TCPIP became the"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "universal language for online computers."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "They also developed the concept of email"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "and invented domain names. DARPA worked"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "with UC Berkeley to create the BSD Unix"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "operating system. BSD Unix heavily"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "influenced the operating system you're"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "using right now, no matter what OS it"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "is. It started with DARPA. Now, these"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "technologies may seem modern, but DARPA"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "sent the first internet message in 1969."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Now, this shouldn't be surprising. DARPA"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "technology is said to be about 20 years"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "ahead of civilian tech."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Like self-driving cars, DARPA built one"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "in 1984. DARPA had GPS in 1973."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "Microprocessors, motion sensors, and"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "wireless communication. DARPA had these"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "decades ago, but eventually these"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "innovations became available to the rest"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "of us. DARPA's technology has made our"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "lives so much better, it's easy to"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "forget that those innovations weren't"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "originally meant to improve lives. They"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "were meant to end them."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "It's the middle of the night and you're"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "lying prone on top of a dusty building"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "in some far corner of the world. You hug"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "your 50 caliber Barrett sniper rifle."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "It's pitch dark, but your light"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "gathering high magnification scope gives"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "you full visibility of the alley 1,200"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "yd away. A door opens. It's your target."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Right on schedule."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "You hold your breath and put your finger"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "on the trigger."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Suddenly, a van appears. Your target"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "leaps in and speeds off."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Years ago, he'd escape. Mission failed."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Not now. You fire confident in DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "latest innovation, a self-guided bullet."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "With optical sensors and real-time"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "guidance, it maneuvers mid-flight locked"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "onto its target."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Skilled snipers engaged targets up"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "to,300 yd away or more. The farthest"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "confirmed kill 2.2 m by Canadian special"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "forces in 2017. Impressive. But DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "extreme accuracy task ordinance or"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "exacto bullet hits targets five or six"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "miles away, maybe farther. DARPA keeps"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "the details a secret. Many DARPA"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "projects seem like science fiction, some"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "like magic. Scepter lets you see through"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "walls. The Mojave project bends light,"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "making objects invisible. DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "engineering living materials program"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "uses living fungus as a construction"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "material. Structures will no longer be"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "built, they'll be grown."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Instead of shipping finished materials,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "we can ship precursors and rapidly grow"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "them on site using local resources. And"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "since the materials will be alive,"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "they'll be able to respond to changes in"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "their environment and heal themselves in"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "response to damage."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "DARPA likes fungus, but it loves bugs."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Project Insect Allies modifies flying"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "insects to attack crops. These insects"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "resist disease and repair each other's"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "injuries in the field. Then there's the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "hybrid insect microelectrical mechanical"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "systems or highs. This project along"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "with project dragonfly creates miniature"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "flying cyborgs. Beetles, moths, and"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "dragonflies become undetectable spies"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "with cybernetic implants and solar"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "powered guidance systems. They could be"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "controlled remotely or operate"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "autonomously using AI. They've created"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "remote controlled rats. DARPA trains"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "bees to find landmines. They're"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "developing clonics, programmable"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "shape-shifting matter. They're"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "developing nuclearpowered spacecraft."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "autonomous vehicles and weapons of all"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "kinds. DARPA's technology is meant to"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "keep people off the battlefield. Why"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "risk a battalion of human soldiers when"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "you can deploy a fleet of drones? But"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "sometimes you need boots on the ground,"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "and that means people with guns. But"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "DARPA has a better idea. Don't give a"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "soldier a weapon, turn them into one."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "The human body is an amazing machine."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Our muscular skeletal system allows us"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "to do gymnastics, lift heavy weights,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "and walk long distances. Still, our"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "bodies have limitations. DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "developing technology to overcome these"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "limitations. The goal is to increase"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "strength, endurance, alertness, and the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "overall health of soldiers."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "DARPA's Warrior web project is one of"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "several exoskeleton programs in the"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "works. It's an exo suit, lightweight and"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "flexible, similar to a scuba suit, but"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "this is a smart suit. Using machine"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "learning and onboard sensors, the suit"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "knows when and where to firm up to"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "augment muscles. It performs its"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "function, then becomes flexible again."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "DARPA has also developed hard"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "exoskeletons, just like you've seen in"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "movies like Aliens and Edge of Tomorrow."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "These exoskeletons not only increase"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "strength and endurance, but they're"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "modular. They can be equipped with all"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "kinds of weapons. There's even a jetpack"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "in development. The tallow suit turns a"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "soldier into a real life Iron Man. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "bulletproof and weaponized. It increases"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "strength, speed, and endurance. It"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "monitors the user's vital signs and has"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "sensors that analyze the entire"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "environment around them. The tactical"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "augmented reality or T project is a"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "headset that overlays information over"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "your normal vision. This gives soldiers"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "real-time information like displaying"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "maps, enemy locations, and other vital"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "data right in their line of sight."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Project Zman was inspired by geckos."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "DARPA is creating a material that would"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "let soldiers climb walls without ropes"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "or ladders. Now, everyone knows the Air"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Force gives their pilots aiments."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": ">> I feel the need. The need for speed."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": ">> The need for speed. Yep. They literally"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "take illegal narcotics to stay alert."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "But the continuous assisted performance"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "or CAP program is focused on keeping"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "soldiers awake, alert, and effective for"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "up to 7 days straight without side"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "effects. DARPA's brain initiative"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "program connects soldiers brains to"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "computers. They can control drones and"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "other systems with thought. They can"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "truly multitask where one part of the"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "brain is operating a drone while the"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "other part of the brain is analyzing the"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "area looking for targets."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "In the early 2000s, DARPA started"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "exploring ways of giving humans"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "superhuman abilities without equipment."}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "This is DARPA's bio-revolution program."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "They studied how animals attack, defend"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "themselves, and regenerate from"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "injuries."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "DARPA felt that if they could find those"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "answers, these abilities could be"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "transferred to humans."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "They could give soldiers improved"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "senses, perfect eyesight, and limb"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "regeneration without external devices."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Now, to do that, you'd have to alter"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "human DNA. So, DARPA is exploring"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "crisper gene editing technology."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "Crisper can snip out unwanted genes and"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "insert new ones. Crisper could"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "accelerate healing. Injuries that might"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "have sidelined soldiers for weeks or"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "months could heal in days. Crisper"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "technology has already sparked a"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "revolution in medicine with the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "potential to cure genetic disorders and"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "even combat aging."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": ">> Link below and how crisp and AI are"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "about to end the whole world."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": ">> Yeah, that episode is scary, but it's"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "interesting and it's real. Now, some of"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "these projects have failed and some"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "haven't and some are still in"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "development. I have no doubt that DARPA"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "will turn soldiers into superhuman"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "weapons eventually, but they haven't"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "yet. So, how do you put boots on the"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "ground and keep humans off the"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "battlefield? DARPA's answer, killer"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "robots."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "DARPA started working on robotics in the"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "1960s. Its first project was Shaky, the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "first mobile robot to reason about its"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "actions. Shaky wasn't sleek or fast, but"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "it was a start. Ah,"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> you know, I I feel like if you name your"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "project Shaky, you're kind of setting"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "yourself up to fail. Well, since then,"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "DARPA's robotics has come a long way. In"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "the early 2000s, DARPA launched the Big"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Dog program. In partnership with Boston"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Dynamics, these four-legged robots can"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "carry heavy loads and navigate difficult"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "terrain. They can also be outfitted with"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "weapons like sniper rifles or machine"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "guns. The LS3 can follow soldiers"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "autonomously and carry up to 400 lb of"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "gear. And then there's the Atlas robot."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "And now we're getting serious."}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "Atlas was launched in 2013, and you've"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "probably seen various versions of this"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "robot over the years. Atlas could run,"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "jump, and navigate obstacle courses. A"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "couple of years ago, Atlas used AI to"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "teach itself how to walk and then run"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "and then do gymnastics. Yeah, you humans"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "realize it's only a matter of time"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "before these things take over and"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "enslave you, right?"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": ">> Uh, some of us realize it."}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": ">> Investigative journalist Annie Jacobson"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "has covered DARPA for years. She says"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "there's no doubt that the Pentagon is"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "investing heavily in robotics."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "DARPA's plan through 2038 states without"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "question that the Pentagon is moving"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "towards robotic warfare. They want to"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "have hunter killer drones that can swim,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "crawl, walk, run. Drones that can fly"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "13,000 m an hour, which is 22 times"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "faster than a commercial jet to get to a"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "target really quickly."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "Ballistic missiles have limitations."}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "Speeds over Mach 20 require too much"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "power and make the rockets dangerously"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "hot. But thanks to DARPA, that's no"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "longer a problem. Missiles can now"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "travel at hypersonic speed without"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "overheating. A target 500 m away can be"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "destroyed in 6 minutes. Weapons like"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "these certainly keep humans off the"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "battlefield. But DARPA is going to take"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "it one step further. It's creating the"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "technology to wage war without needing"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "humans at all."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Remember"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "how DARPA is always about 20 years ahead"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "of civilian technology, maybe more?"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Well, as early as the 1960s, DARPA"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "started developing computers that can"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "learn independently."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "In the 1980s, DARPA launched the"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "Strategic Computing Initiative or SEI."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "The goal of SEI was to create military"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "strategies by running simulations and"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "learning from them. Are"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": ">> you describing war games?"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "What's it doing?"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": ">> War Games was originally going to be a"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "science fiction story about a dying"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "scientist who's saved by a kid genius."}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "But then the writers met Peter Schwarz"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "from the Stanford Research Institute or"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "SRRI."}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": ">> SRI. I know those guys."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> You do? SRRI has been the launchpad for"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "many secret government programs. I've"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "talked about them a lot on this channel,"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "and they've long been connected to the"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "CIA, NSA, and DARPA. Well, Schwarz was"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "fascinated by a new computer subculture"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "called Hackers. He suggested that they"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "make a movie about a kid hacking a"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "military supercomput."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:44", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was it? It"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "was called The Big Mac."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:47", "text": ">> No, whopper. War operation plan"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "response."}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": ">> Oh, right. I'd still rather have a Big"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Mac."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": ">> Me, too."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "Well, the Whopper spends all its time"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "thinking about World War II. 24 hours a"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "day, 365 days a year, it plays an"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "endless series of war games using all"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "available information on the state of"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "the world."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": ">> At the very same time that this movie"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "came out, DARPA was working on its own"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "military supercomput. Here's how they"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "described it."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "The machine envisioned by SC would run"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "10 billion instructions per second to"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "see, hear, speak, and think like a"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "human. The degree of integration"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "required would rival that achieved by"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "the human brain, the most complex"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "instrument known to man. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "caught on by now, we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "artificial intelligence. Today, AI is"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "everywhere and accessible to everyone."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "And it feels like it came out of"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "nowhere, but it didn't. It came out of"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "DARPA."}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "As of today, 70% of DARPA's projects use"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "or are focused on AI and machine"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "learning. DARPA started working on AI in"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "the 1960s. They built their first AI"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "system, a speech recognition computer in"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "the 1970s. In 1983, the strategic"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "computing initiative project received"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "billions for AI research. Then in the"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "1990s, DARPA launched another"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "supercomputing project. It was and still"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "is highly secret. It's affecting you"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "right now. And once I tell you what it"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "is, you're not going to like it."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "Now, it's time to get this video"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "demonetized and censored."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": ">> Yeah, boy."}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": ">> Yeah, if I'm not on a list by now, I I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "about to be."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": ">> No, they're watching you, human."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": ">> Yeah, I I really don't want to talk"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "about this. Honestly, I'm about to put"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "everything that I have at risk."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": ">> Uh, you're actually scaring me right"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "now. I'm scared, too."}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "Here we go."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:05", "text": ">> Welcome."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": ">> Like the steam engine which sparked the"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "industrial revolution of the late 1700s,"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "the internet is changing everything it"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "touches. And at the cutting edge of the"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "revolution is Wall Street."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": ">> So we are now 6 and 3/4 points above"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "fair value."}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": ">> The early 1990s was the beginning of the"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "tech boom. Internet startups were"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "getting millions in investments."}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "of data, personal data. The intelligence"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "community wanted to gather this data to"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "create a digital fingerprint of everyone"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "using the internet. If they could"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "identify bad actors, criminals,"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "terrorists, whatever, they would compare"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "that fingerprint against others. They"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "called this the birds of a feather"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "approach. If Joe's a bad guy and Bob's a"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "bad guy, and they both go to certain"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "websites, then other people visiting"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "those same websites were potential bad"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "guys. So, let's track them. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "surveillance?"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:03", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:04", "text": ">> Of Americans?"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:05", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:06", "text": ">> Legal?"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": ">> Well, officially illegal as of 2010, but"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "the law was murky in the 1990s. And for"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "the intelligence community, murky means"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "opportunity."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "Still, the intelligence agencies didn't"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "have the ability to manage all this"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "data, but they knew people were out"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "there working on it, and they were all"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "looking for funding. But if you're the"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "NSA or CIA or DARPA, you can't drop by"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "an internet startup and ask them to"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "build you an illegal digital"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "surveillance program."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:39", "text": ">> Yeah, it's kind of a bad look."}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": ">> It is, but it also gives away the game."}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "Surveillance is only valuable if the"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "target doesn't know they're being"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "watched. So, this technology would need"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "to be funded privately and quietly. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "in 1994, the Highlands Forum was"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "founded. Ever hear of the Highlands"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "Forum? You probably haven't. and they"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "like it that way."}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "The Highlands Forum or Highlands Group"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "was formed as a think tank, a bridge"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "between technology companies and the"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "The Highlands Forum is an invitationonly"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "group of government officials,"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "academics, and executives from tech and"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "defense companies. Their discussions are"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "private and off the record, operating"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "under the Chattam House rule, meaning"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "members can disclose information from"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "the meetings as long as it doesn't harm"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "anybody, but they can never reveal who"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "said it. Not ever."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "Although hardly anyone knows about the"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "Highlands Forum, the group is highly"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "influential on US defense policy,"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "especially regarding technology. And"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "they're a private organization. No"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "auditing, no oversight, no Freedom of"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "Information Act requirements. They're a"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "black box. The perfect conduit for"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "transactions you want to keep off the"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "books. So tech is booming, data is"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "flowing, and we've got our think tank to"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "connect us with the people capturing the"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "data. Now we need the money to fund"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "That same year, the massive digital data"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "systems or MDDS program was launched."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "MTDS would fund scientists, researchers,"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "and companies who worked with big data"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "sets. The Highlands Forum would help"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "identify, facilitate, and coordinate"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "these transactions."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "To keep these transactions private and"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "secret, the MDDS moved money through"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "unclassified mainstream agencies like"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "the National Science Foundation."}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "Computer scientists were getting"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "millions in grants from the NSF. Totally"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "normal. They didn't know who was really"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "behind the money. And MDDS was highly"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "compartmentalized. It had tons of"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "projects and departments. Nobody knew"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "what anyone else was doing or who was"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "even in charge. And this was by design,"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "but the overall program was managed by"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "the CIA, NSA, and DARPA."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "So, we've got black budget money flowing"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "through the NSF, and we've got our"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "private organization, the Highlands"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "Forum, looking for opportunities. So,"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "the word goes out to researchers in"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "academia. If you can handle big data,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "we'll give you big money."}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "Then a promising project emerged. Two"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Stamford graduate students working on a"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "search engine made a breakthrough."}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "In the early '90s, searching the"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "internet was difficult. Popular engines"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "like Alta Vista and LOS produced hit or"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "miss results."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "Searching hiking gear would show pages"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "mentioning hiking or gear, often"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "irrelevant blog posts or articles. Users"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "had to scroll through pages of useless"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "results. It took forever and I remember"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "it well. Two Stamford students developed"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "a system that changed everything."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "Their automated webcwling system"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "identified a web page's context, not"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "just the text. Then pages were ranked"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "based on relevance to specific queries."}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "Pages actually discussing hiking gear"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "would rank higher for that query. High"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "traffic pages and pages with lots of"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "incoming links ranked even higher. These"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "were signals to the algorithm that a"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "page was a good match for that query."}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "Using this search engine felt like"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "magic. Usually the first or second"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "result was exactly what you were looking"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "for. Somehow it knew. 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If you"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "searched hiking gear, the system assumed"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "you liked outdoor activities and were"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "probably within a certain age group. And"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "the more you used the search engine, the"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "more it learned about you. So your"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "searches always gave you relevant"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "results. Using information you willingly"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "provided, these students had developed a"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "method to create your digital"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "fingerprint. Jackpot."}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "The CIA, NSA, and DARPA learned about"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "this project and through the National"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "Science Foundation, the NDDDS funded it."}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "If you haven't guessed by now, those two"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "students were Sergey Brin and Larry"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "Page. And the search engine was Google."}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "You won't find MDDS in Google's origin"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "story, but this is public unclassified"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "information. It's just hard to find. In"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "Brennan Page's famous 1998 research"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "paper, the anatomy of a large-scale"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "hypertextual web search engine, they"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "thanked DARPA for their support. You can"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "see this for yourself. It's on page 16,"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "section 7 under acknowledgements. Now,"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "there's a lot more to this rabbit hole."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "The connection between intelligence"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "agencies and technology companies is so"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "hang on hang on."}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:01", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:02", "text": ">> Pop quiz."}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:03", "text": ">> Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:04", "text": ">> How do you make your living?"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:06", "text": ">> YouTube."}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> And who owns YouTube?"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "Google,"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> right? Bye-bye channel. Now would be a"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "good time to ask for Patreon support."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:14", "text": ">> I don't do plugs until the end of the"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "episode."}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": ">> Make an exception. We're in the deep"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "water now."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> He might be right. Truly and honestly. I"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "won't know until it's too late. But"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "telling you the story might have been a"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "terrible mistake. So yes, please go to"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "patreon.com/theiles."}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "I don't know if we will, but we might"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "need your help. Anyway, this video isn't"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "about Google. It's about DARPA,"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "specifically the dark side of DARPA. And"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "it's about to get a whole lot darker."}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "When John F. Kennedy took office in"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "1961, America had allies everywhere."}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "Cuba, Ethiopia, Nicaragua, Laos,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "Vietnam, Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, and"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "many others. But the Soviet Union was"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "fueling insurrections against USfriendly"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "governments. Kennedy promised to stop"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "the spread of communism, but the Soviets"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "were pouring billions into military"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "technology, rocket and missile systems,"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "even space exploration. JFK was"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "committed to keeping pace. He wanted"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "more resources in science and"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "technology. He modernized the military"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "and doubled DARPA's budget. And the"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "timing couldn't be better. The global"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "cold war had evolved into regional proxy"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "wars with the Soviets. A new type of"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "warfare was being fought, guerilla"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "warfare. Old military strategies"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "wouldn't work."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "The situation in Vietnam was especially"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "bad. The Vietkong were hidden under the"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "thick jungle canopy. You can't kill an"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "enemy that you can't see."}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "DARPA proposed a solution, Project"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "Agile. It was pitched to Kennedy as both"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "a scientific and military endeavor."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "Kennedy signed off immediately."}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "The first phase was called Operation"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "Ranchhand. Its purpose was to clear the"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "jungle. DARPA developed the rainbow"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "herbicides, named for their container"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "colors to kill the foliage. Agent Purple"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "was first, then green, then pink. DARPA"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "was combining different herbicides,"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "defoliants, and toxins, looking for the"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "perfect formula to destroy Vieton cover."}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "Agent Orange was the winner. Millions of"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "gallons of Agent Orange was sprayed over"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "miles of jungle every day. Leaves fell"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "from trees almost immediately. Another"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "application and the trees died."}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "Next, Project Agile targeted farms."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "Asian Orange could destroy miles of"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "crops in a day. They asked South"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "Vietnamese President DM if he knew which"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "farms were Vietkong and which belonged"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "to innocent civilians. He said yes, he"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "knew and he didn't care. If they weren't"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "traitors yet, they would be soon. Kill"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "them all."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "Now, the US didn't want to do this, but"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "it only had a few hundred military"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "advisers in Vietnam at this time. They"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "didn't want to send more. Better to"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "sacrifice North Vietnamese farmers than"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "US Marines. So, it was done. Guilty or"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "innocent, friend or foe, if you were a"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "North Vietnamese farmer, you were"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "targeted. Your crops were destroyed and"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "your soil was poisoned. Replanting was"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "impossible."}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "Ancient Orange's effects were instant"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "and devastating, and nobody knew it was"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "only the beginning."}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "As the Vietnam War escalated, so did the"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "use of Agent Orange under DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "Project Agile. Project Agile used other"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "tactics. DARPA contractors included"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "social scientists and experts in human"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "psychology. Propaganda spread through"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "leaflets, loudspeakers, and media"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "control. Subliminal technology kept"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "people in heightened emotional states"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "from minor discomfort to absolute"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "terror."}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Subliminal warfare mind control link"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "down the alley. Sally"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": ">> psychological warfare teams targeted"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "villages, turning neighbor against"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "neighbor. Civilians were forced into"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "strategic hamlets for their safety. 4"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "million people were relocated against"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "their will. Meanwhile, soldiers"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "complained of headaches, nausea,"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "stinging eyes, and rashes. Agent Orange"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "did more than clear jungle and kill"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "crops. It tortured people for life."}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "Thousands exposed to Agent Orange"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "developed cancer. Children were born"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "with defects. Agent Orange caused"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "reproductive problems like infertility"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "and miscarriages. Heart disease and"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "diabetes increased. Agent orange was"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "first used in 1962. In 1965, scientists"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "discovered it contained dioxin, a highly"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "toxic compound that causes cancer and"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "birth defects. They kept using it. In"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "1967, a study proved dioxin causes birth"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "defects even at low concentrations. They"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "kept using it. In 1969, a Department of"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "Defense report acknowledged Agent"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "Orange's severe health risks. They kept"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "using it. Public outcry forced President"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "Nixon to stop the use of Agent Orange in"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "1970. They kept using it. They stopped"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "spraying the following year, 1971."}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "Now, even in war, there are rules. PS"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "must be treated humanely. Medical staff"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "and facilities are off limits."}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "Humanitarian aid must be allowed."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "Breaking these rules is a war crime. In"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "1907, the Hay Convention banned the use"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "of poison in war. The US signed the"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "treaty. Agent Orange was poison. That's"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "what herbicides are. So, was using Agent"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "Orange a war crime? No. The United"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "States said Agent Orange wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "poison. It was an herbicide. The treaty"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "didn't specifically mention herbicides."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "Oh, that's some lawyer loophole"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:07", "text": ">> In 1925, the Geneva Protocol banned the"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "use of chemical weapons. The US signed"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "this treaty, but Agent Orange was a"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "chemical. Of the 12 companies producing"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "Agent Orange, the primary manufacturer"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "was the DAO Chemical Company. The word"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "chemical is in the company's name. So,"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "is using Agent Orange a war crime? Nope."}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "The United States said Agent Orange"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "wasn't a chemical. It was an herbicide."}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "But wait, how is that even possible?"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:33", "text": ">> It's not."}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "In 1949, the Geneva Conventions"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "established that civilians and their"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "property must not be intentionally"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "targeted. Only combatants and military"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "targets were allowed. The US signed this"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "treaty. But civilians and their farms"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "were intentionally targeted with Agent"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "Orange. So, is using it a war crime? No."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "The United States said the intent was to"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "disrupt the enemy's logistical support"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "and visibility, not cause direct harm to"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "people. In other words, it was an"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "accident. So, what about the destruction"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "of plants and trees on civilian land?"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "Those weren't military targets. Isn't"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "this a war crime? No. The United States"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "said it was a military necessity to"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "defoliate the area in order to deny the"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "enemy cover, which makes trees, any"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "trees anywhere, a military target."}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "What about destroying civilian crops?"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "Again, the US only intended to destroy"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "crops of the enemy, not civilians. It"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "was unintentional, so no war crime. In"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "1977, the Geneva Conventions were"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "amended to specifically ban the use of"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "herbicides and reinforce civilian"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "protection. The US signed this new"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "treaty, but still denied any liability"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "for the damage caused by Agent Orange."}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "However, in 1984, US veterans sued the"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "chemical companies who settled for $180"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "million."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "But the settlement was to support"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "veterans, not an admission of guilt. In"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "2004, Jill Montgomery speaking for the"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "Monsanto Company, one of the major"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "suppliers of Agent Orange, uh she set"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "the record straight."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "We're sympathetic with people who"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "believe they've been injured and"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "understand their concern to find the"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "cause, but reliable scientific evidence"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "indicates that Agent Orange is not the"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "cause of serious long-term health"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "effects."}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "In 1991,"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "finally, the VA started providing"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "benefits to vets exposed to Agent"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "Orange. But the US still denies"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "liability. My father-in-law served in"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "Vietnam. He was exposed to Agent Orange."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "He's watching, so I won't list his"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "illnesses, but he suffered almost all of"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "them. So, in 1991, he applied for his"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "benefits. And I'll admit, the government"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "kept its word. He did receive his"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "benefits. In 2021, it took 30 years."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "Like so many vets, when his country"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "needed him, he didn't hesitate. But when"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "he needed his country, they said, \"Take"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "a number, get in line, and hope you're"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "still alive by the time we call your"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "name.\" Do I sound angry? That's because"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "I am."}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "Between 1955 and 1975, 2.7 million"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "people were deployed to Vietnam. 58,000"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "dead, 300,000 wounded, 3,000 missing or"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "prisoners of war, 1500 still missing."}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "That's tragic, but it's much worse. The"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "VA estimates 300,000 to 400,000 veterans"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "may have died from illnesses caused by"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "the exposure to Agent Orange. May have"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "to this day."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "To this day, no single person, agency,"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "company, or government has admitted any"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "wrongdoing or assumed any liability for"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "the millions of lives destroyed by Agent"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "Orange. Now, ordinary people like us"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "have so many rules we have to follow."}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "Don't speed. Check grandma's shoes"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "before she gets on a plane. Pay your"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "taxes even though we're going to steal"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "it and waste your money. Pick up a gun."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "Shoot at those people. Do what you're"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "told. If we break a law, the government"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "will take our money, seize our property,"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "force us into labor, or lock us in a"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "cell. It all depends on the crime. So,"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "we follow the law. But if you're a big"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "chemical company or a government agency,"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "don't worry about the law. You can get"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "away with murder."}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "I needed a minute. The story of DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "hard to debunk, and that's because most"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "of it's true. What we know about DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "projects come from them. Their websites"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "and official YouTube channel openly"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "share information. They have a podcast"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "called Voices of DARPA. Even the experts"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "in covering DARPA, Annie Jacobson and"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "Sharon Weinberger, get their information"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "from the agency they're writing about."}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "When Jacobson gives a speech, writes a"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "book, or appears in an interview about"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "DARPA, she's not sharing classified"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "information. She's not speculating."}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "She's reporting. She never claims to"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "know anything that we can't find out for"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "ourselves. But still, most information"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "is secret. What we know about DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "what they want us to know. There's no"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "transparency. None. Also, DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "exempt from laws that other government"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "agencies have to follow. Specifically"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "about hiring practices, managing"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "personnel, and managing budgets. They"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "can run the agency however they like."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "DARPA is only 220 people. That's it."}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "with a budget of almost $4 billion. Now,"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "that's a lot of freedom and power, but"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "it's much more than that. DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "allowed to fund projects through what's"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "called other transactions. No"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "congressional approval needed. No"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "reporting required. Choose the projects"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "you want to fund and fund them. So,"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "who's choosing the projects? Annie"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "Jacobson gives us an unsettling answer."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "The real problem is that the individuals"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "who are responsible for deciding what"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "weapon systems are being financed and"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "created in these classified DARPA"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "programs are the very CEOs of defense"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "contractors who stand to financially"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "benefit from these contracts."}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "Annie Jacobson has said that DARPA is"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "the agency driving the"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "military-industrial complex. That agency"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "is run by the companies that profit from"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "the technology they create. This is"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "exactly what President Eisenhower said"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "would happen. If you make war"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "profitable, you'll always have war. But"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "to be fair, DARPA's innovations have"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "made our lives better. Not just because"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "of cell phones and GPS. DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "achievements in prosthetics have allowed"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "paralyzed children to walk again."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "They've created medical techniques to"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "diagnose illnesses earlier. They've"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "bio-engineered tissue and organs that"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "can be used for transplants. They've"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "developed machines that can stabilize"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "injured people in emergency situations."}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "Advanced medical imaging such as"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "ultrasound, MRI, and brain imaging. All"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "created by or alongside DARPA. Now, does"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "the good outweigh the bad? Do DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "contributions offset the damage they've"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "done? I don't know. That's not for me to"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "judge. But this story reminds me of the"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "courtroom scene in A Few Good Men. You"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "can't handle the truth,"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:28", "text": ">> right? When the colonel says, \"My"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "existence, while grotesque and"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "incomprehensible to you, saves lives.\""}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": ">> You don't want the truth because deep"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "down in places you don't talk about it,"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "parties. You want me on that wall. You"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "need me on that wall."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": ">> Right. So, is DARPA a necessary evil? Is"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "evil even the right word? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "When DARPA was formed in 1958, its"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "mission was to make sure the United"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "States was never again surprised by"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "advanced technology. And for 66 years,"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "DARPA has succeeded in its mission. The"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "US has never been surprised by"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "technology,"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:04", "text": ">> except for the UFOs."}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:06", "text": ">> Okay, the US has never been surprised by"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "another country's technology."}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:09", "text": ">> Better."}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": ">> I can't forget all the suffering that"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "DARPA has caused. But DARPA's done so"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "much good. Can I forgive? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "I'm disgusted by some of DARPA's"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "actions, by our government's corruption,"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "by the fact that because of DARPA, bad"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "people get rich from war."}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "But if I'm being honest, which I always"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "am with you, I have to acknowledge that"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "as an American, we need DARPA on that"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "wall."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "I told you that was going to be a dark"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "one. Okay, what's next? Aha, yes,"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "zombies. This one was chosen by my"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "editor, Brandon. He loves creepy stuff."}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "Yep. If DARPA wasn't dark enough for"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "you, here's the episode about con plan"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "888."}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "M brains."}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "Staff Sergeant Ryan Martinez was the bo"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "death sergeant on duty at off at AFB a"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "few miles south of Omaha, Nebraska."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "He sipped cold coffee, updated the"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "bladder, and checked in with patrols."}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "Reports confirmed the monitors. RC135"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "sitting dark in the flight line, guards"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "walking posts and perimeter fences"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "quiet. At 0400, this was routine."}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "Martinez was fighting a yawn when the"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "claxon fired up."}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "Then an announcement. Alarm red."}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "Perimeter breach. Martinez checked the"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "cameras. A wave of shadows was stumbling"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "across the field toward thousands of"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "onbase personnel and their families."}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "Then he saw them. The shadows were"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "people. Or at least they used to be. The"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "loudspeaker barked commands to halt. The"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "horde kept coming. Flares went up."}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "Warning shots were fired. The horde kept"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "coming. Then came the command Martinez"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "never expected to hear. Weapons free."}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "Gunfire erupted. Thousands of rounds"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "creating a wall of sound and smoke and"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "steel. Bodies fell. The entire base held"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "its breath."}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "A few seconds later, the bodies rose"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "again, and the horde kept coming."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "Martinez tore through a cabinet,"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "searching for the protocols no one took"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "seriously, remembering the training no"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "one thought necessary. Every soldier at"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "offet was prepared for this exact"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "scenario, outlined in a military"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "document most Americans had never heard"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "of. Con plan 888, the Pentagon's guide"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "for surviving a zombie apocalypse. And"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "tonight the plan goes operational."}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "The plan that Staff Sergeant Martinez"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "pulled from that cabinet is real. I have"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "a copy of it. You can download it and"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "read it for yourself. In 2009, United"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "States Strategic Command released Con"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "Plan 8888-11,"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "Counter Zombie Dominance Operations. 31"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "pages of detailed military strategy for"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "surviving a zombie apocalypse, complete"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "with operational phases, threat"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "assessments, and rules of engagement."}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:48", "text": ">> Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait,"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "wait, wait, wait. This is a real thing?"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "Army vers zombies?"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:53", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:56", "text": ">> Okay, I'm terrified right now. Hold me."}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:58", "text": ">> No. The document opens with standard"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "Pentagon formatting. Official letter"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "head, proper classification stamps."}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "Everything looks mundane until you get"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "to the documents. Purpose statement."}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:10", "text": ">> US Stratcom Con Plan 88.88. Purpose: To"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "undertake military operations to"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "preserve non-zombie humans from the"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "threats posed by a zombie horde. Because"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "zombies pose a threat to all non-zombie"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "human life, hereafter referred to as"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "humans, US Stratcom will be prepared to"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "preserve the sanctity of human life. The"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "document was declassified in 2011 thanks"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "to a foyer request. Now that's a quick"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "turnaround from classified the public. A"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "section of con plan 8888 reveals why."}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:40", "text": ">> US stratcom con plan 8888 security"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "instructions. This document is"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "unclassified to ensure maximum utility"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "during times of crisis. Classified"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "capabilities used to counter zombies"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "will be addressed in appropriate orders"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "and crisis plan will be adapted to"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "current operational conditions. Con plan"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "8888 assumes a complete breakdown of"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "society. It lays out five distinct"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "operational phases from monitoring"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "through the restoration of civil"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "authority."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "Phase zero is shape the environment."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "Stratcom watches for non-state actors"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "with chemical and biological WMDs. They"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "monitor disease vectors, outbreaks, and"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "epidemics. Phase one is deter. This"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "prevents enemies from creating zombies"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "and nuclear armed countries get notified"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "that counter zombie tactics aren't a"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "preparation for war."}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": ">> Phase two is seize the initiative."}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "Stratcon provides security assistance to"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "local authorities. Quarantine zones get"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "created and enforced. Civilian areas"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "stay protected until they're overrun."}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "Then conplan 8888 enters phase three."}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "Dominate, respond, and counter. During"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "phase three, the US military locks down"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "and retreats to fortified positions for"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "at least 40 days."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:54", "text": ">> US Stratcom Conplan 888, phase three."}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "Upon receipt of a US StratCom order, all"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "forces will begin preparations to"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "conduct combat operations against zombie"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "threats. US Stratcom will shelter all"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "personnel in place for at least 40 days."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": ">> After that, phases four and five focus"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "on stabilizing and restoring government."}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "Reconnaissance teams deploy to assess"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "the zombie threat."}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:18", "text": ">> US Stratcom, con plan 888, phase 4 and"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "5. No earlier than 40 days after the"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "initiation of phase 3 operations, US"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "Stratcom forces will initiate local"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "reconnaissance ops to determine the"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "severity of the remaining zombie threat."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "Assess the physical and epidemiological"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "security of the local environment and"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "survey the status of basic services,"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "water, power, sewage, infrastructure,"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "and communications. If the threat is"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "neutralized, rebuilding begins, but as"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "long as zombies exist, the military"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "stays locked down. Kong plan 8888"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "outlines these phases step by step. But"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "notice what's missing during the"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "military lockdown. Civilian protection."}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "The document says that during the first"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "critical weeks, local law enforcement"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "handles zombie attacks until martial law"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "is declared. After that, no civilian"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "assistance, no rescue missions, no"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "exceptions. The plan assumes most"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "government officials die within 24"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "hours. Cities become uninhabitable."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "Infrastructure collapses completely."}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "Compan 8888 ensures military command and"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "control continues. Now, that's great if"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "you're inside a fortified facility, but"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "for anyone outside a military fence, con"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "plan 8888 makes it clear you're on your"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "own."}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "To survive the collapse of society, you"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "need to understand the threat. The"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "military knows where zombie apocalypses"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "could start and what we'll face beyond"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "the safety of fortified installations."}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:50", "text": ">> US Stratcom, con plan 888, section 4,"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "subsection 5. Conditions for"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "implementation part A. Zombies have the"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "potential to seriously undermine"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "national security and our way of life."}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "While the US currently enjoys several"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "asymmetric advantages and against zombie"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "infections originating in the Eurasian"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "landmass, these advantages can easily be"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "negated by air and sea traffic that"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "could transport the source of a zombie"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "infection to North and South America."}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:17", "text": ">> But conplan 8888 is clear. Zombie"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "threats come from anywhere and affect"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "anyone. The Pentagon organized zombies"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "into distinct categories. According to"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "complan 8888, the most likely threat"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "comes from pathogenic zombies created"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "when viruses or bacteria infect humans."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "And the Pentagon isn't guessing."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "Existing diseases could mutate and"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "trigger real outbreaks. Take rabies. The"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "virus attacks the central nervous"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "system, creating aggression and"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "violence. Infected animals foam at the"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "mouth and attack anything that moves."}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "That foam carries the rabies virus. One"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "bite from a rabid animal means almost"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "certain death. Movies like 28 Days Later"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "and World War Z show virus-based"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "zombies. Animals also become zombies"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "through pron diseases. A pron is a"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "misfolded protein that destroys brains"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "and nervous systems. Chronic wasting"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "disease makes deer and elk lose their"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "natural fear. They stumble around like"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "zombies, easy prey for predators."}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "Mountain lions actually target infected"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "deer, but eating these animals is risky."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "Eat a pron diseased brain and you become"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "infected. Mad cow disease is a pron"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "disease. Humans who eat infected beef"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "develop kudfeld yakob disease. The"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "symptoms are rapid mental deterioration,"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "loss of coordination and aggressive"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "behavior. Sounds a lot like zombies."}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "Kuru affects cannibalistic tribes in"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "Papa Nagini. They eat the brains of dead"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "relatives as a funeral ritual. Stop."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "Stop. Stop. Why did they uh h How did"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "What? Why?"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:47", "text": ">> Eating the brain helps the spirit reach"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "the afterlife."}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:53", "text": ">> So, how was grandma's funeral? A little"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "chewy."}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:56", "text": ">> I don't feel so good."}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": ">> Yeah, technically it's against the law"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "now, but rumors are that some tribes"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "still do this privately."}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:09", "text": ">> Keep my wife's brain out your mouth."}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "Keep my wife's brain out your mouth."}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "And that's how it continues. Eating an"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "infected brain spreads kuru. Victims"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "experience severe mood changes. They"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "become violent and unpredictable"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:19", "text": ">> like ex-wives."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:20", "text": ">> Like zombies."}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:22", "text": ">> Ah, that makes more sense."}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": ">> The Zombie Land movies feature pron"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "zombies. And beyond bacteria, viruses,"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "and prons, parasites can create zombies."}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "These are called symbient induced"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "zombies. And what makes these parasites"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "so dangerous is you don't know you're"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "carrying one."}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "Conplan 8888 says pathogenic zombies are"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "most common and that makes sense."}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "Diseases affect every animal on Earth"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "and sometimes those diseases jump to"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "humans through zuonosis. AIDS, SARS,"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "H1N1, Ebola, plague, anthrax, Lyme"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "disease, malaria. Dozens of deadly"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "diseases jump from animals to humans."}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "And most diseases kill their host, but"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "not all. Conplan 888 calls these sis"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "symbient induced zombies. Instead of"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "killing you, the parasite uses you, at"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "least for a while. In Costa Rica's"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "rainforests, the jewel wasp attacks"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "cockroaches. The wasp injects venom"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "directly into the roach's brain. The"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "roach becomes docel and compliant."}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:32", "text": ">> Uh, you said this was the Cosby wasp."}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": ">> The jewel wasp. No, I don't remember"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "Jewel doing anything this inappropriate."}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": ">> The jewel wasp grabs the roach by its"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "antenna and leads it to a burrow like"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "walking a dog. The roach doesn't flee,"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "it follows. Then the wasp lays an egg"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "inside the roach and leaves. The roach"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "stays put, waiting peacefully. When the"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "larvae hatches, it eats the cockroach"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "alive from the inside out. That's mind"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "control. Conplan 8888 calls it"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "zombification. And if you play the Dead"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "Rising games, those zombies are created"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "by these parasitic wasps. Then there's"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "of Cortiseps. This fungus turns ants"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "into zombie ants. Infected ants abandon"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "their colonies and climb high branches."}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "They bite down on leaves with a death"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "grip. The fungus then consumes the ants"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "body and burst from its head, reigning"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "spores on the colony below. The ant's"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "final act spreads infection and creates"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "more zombies. The Last of Us games and"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "HBO series feature the Cortiseps fungus"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "jumping to humans. African sleeping"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "sickness affects thousands of people"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "every year. It's transmitted by titif"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "flies. Victims become confused,"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "disoriented, and violent."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:40", "text": ">> Like my"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:41", "text": ">> like zombies,"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:42", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:45", "text": ">> Those parasites kill the host"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "eventually, but some keep the host alive"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "forever. Athosephilim worm starts by"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "infecting insects that birds like to eat"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "because the worm's final destination is"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "in a bird's gut. The parasite hijacks an"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "insect survival instincts. It abandons"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "cover and wanders into open areas where"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "birds hunt. Some climb to the tops of"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "plants and stay exposed. Birds eat the"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "zombified insects. The worm infects the"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "bird. More worms spread through the"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "bird's feces, and the bird never knows"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "the worm is there. In fact, there's a"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "dangerous parasite that's already living"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "in almost half of the human population."}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "And if you don't have it, there's a good"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "chance that somebody living in your"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "house does."}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "Toxopplasma Gandhi is a single-sellled"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "parasite that lives in contaminated"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "water and undercooked meat. Between 30"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "and 50% of humans carry it. Most don't"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "know they're infected. The reason it's"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "so common, cats."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> I knew it. Those filthy hell beasts of"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "boweapons."}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": ">> Okay, settle down. About half of all"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "cats have toxopplasma antibodies from"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "past infection. And this bug is tough."}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "It survives months in cat feces, years"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "in soil and water. It can withstand"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "refrigeration and even freezing."}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "Chlorine won't kill it. Neither will"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "soap or detergent. Sulfuric acid kills"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "it, but it takes almost 2 years. It's"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "easily spread by household insects like"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "cockroaches and flies and rodents. And"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "there's an argument that toxopplasma"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "gandi evolved to help cats. Infected"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "rats and mice lose their fear of cats."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "They become slower, less alert. They're"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "actually attracted to cat urine."}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "Poxopplasma programs rodents to get"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "eaten."}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "It's the perfect parasite."}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "Indestructible, persistent, widespread,"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "undetectable. The military knows that in"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "a real outbreak, every cat becomes a"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "disease vector. You couldn't trust any"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "of them."}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:48", "text": ">> If you trust a house cat, you deserve to"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "get eat. That's why conplan 8888 takes"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "biological threats seriously. Once a"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "pathogen enters the pet population,"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "containment becomes impossible."}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:56", "text": ">> You could eliminate all the kids."}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:58", "text": ">> Stop that."}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": ">> I'm just saying if you want to make an"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "omelette, you got to break some kittens."}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:04", "text": ">> But here's what keeps researchers awake"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "at night. Most people don't know they're"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "carrying toxopplasma. Studies show"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "infected humans take more risks. They"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "drive aggressively. Some researchers"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "link it to personality changes,"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "decision-making problems, even mental"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "health issues. This is why conplan 8888"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "exists. This is why the Pentagon plans."}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "Because zombies aren't coming. They're"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "already here."}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "Dr. Annie Lou was a molecular"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "gerontologist and the latest darling of"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "Silicon Valley. She discovered a"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "telomeir extending virus, the holy grail"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "of life extension. She called it Project"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "Lazarus."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "The ultra wealthy from all over the"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "world poured billions into Lazarus. If"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "there's one thing billionaires really"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "hate doing, it's dying."}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "But Dr. Lou hit an impass."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "The Lazarus virus worked perfectly in a"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "petri dish. But once it was injected"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "into a live rat, the rat died within"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "hours. Could it be the delivery vector?"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "Maybe a cytoine cascade? Why do the"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "telomeurs lengthen then trigger"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "apoptosis?"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "Immune storm in every test subject. Ours"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "to death. What am I missing?"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "Dr. Lou checked the time. It was after"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "3:00 a.m. Her third allnighter in a row."}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "Ah,"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "she needed to get some sleep. Better to"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "deal with this with fresh eyes."}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:40", "text": ">> I'm fine. It was just a hard day at the"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "lab."}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:45", "text": ">> But Dr. Lou didn't realize how hard a"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "day it was."}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "She never noticed the three micron tear"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "in her hazmat suit. A human hair is"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "about 60 microns wide, but not the"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "Lazarus virus. Those are 0.02 microns"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "wide. Plenty of room for a virus to"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "enter. In fact, that's enough room for"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "hundreds of them to enter."}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:10", "text": ">> Of course, I'm coming. I wouldn't miss"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "my little sister's wedding for anything."}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:18", "text": ">> Dr. Lou took every precaution. N95 masks"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "block particles 0.03 microns wide. But"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "that's not enough to stop Lazarus."}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "Even if Dr. Lou knew about the tear, she"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "wouldn't have been that concerned."}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "Lazarus wasn't an airborne virus."}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "Lazarus only worked if it was injected"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "directly into the bloodstream."}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "But now Lazarus was airborne."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "The next zombie classification in"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "conplan 8888 RZ radiation zombies."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "Organisms become zombies after absorbing"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "extreme electromagnetic radiation."}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "Nuclear accidents, dirty bombs, cosmic"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "radiation. The Pentagon says any of"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "these can create zombies. Solar flares"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "bombard earth with charged particles. A"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "coronal mass ejection could expose"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "entire populations to dangerous"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "radiation. The 1859 Carrington event"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "knocked out telegraph systems all over"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "the world. A similar event today could"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "deliver radiation doses that alter brain"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "chemistry on a massive scale. After"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "Chernobyl, emergency responders who"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "entered the reactor core experienced"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "rapid cellular breakdown. Some survivors"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "reported hallucinations and aggressive"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "behavior before dying."}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "But radiation doesn't always kill. We"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "covered how Chernobyl's dogs and wolves"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "adapted to high radiation. An entirely"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "new wolf species emerged, highly"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "resistant to cancer. If radiation can"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "create a new type of wolf, it can create"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "a new type of human. And in the wrong"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "hands, that human becomes the perfect"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "soldier. Conplan 8888 calls these"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "weaponized zombies. WZs are specifically"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "created for military use. The Pentagon"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "causes us a threat because the"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "technology exists and they should know"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "they created it."}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:44", "text": ">> Wuhan."}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": ">> No, you're going to get us canled."}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:49", "text": ">> Oh. Oh, I meant uh Wuhan. Solo really"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "showed Greo who's boss."}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:55", "text": ">> Nice save. Chemical weapons affect brain"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "function and behavior."}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "During the Cold War, both superpowers"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "developed psychochemical agents to"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "incapacitate enemy forces. BZ tested by"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "the US Army caused hallucinations and"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "confusion. Similar compounds could"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "create zombie symptoms. Crisper gene"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "editing alters organisms at the genetic"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "level. Synthetic biology creates"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "entirely new biological systems. A"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "hostile nation could engineer a pathogen"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "that creates controllable zombies."}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": ">> Controllable zombies. And we already got"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "those. They're called cable news"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "viewers."}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:30", "text": ">> Con plan 8888 shows the military"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "preparing for zombies that can come from"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "anywhere, even outer space."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "Space zombies come from outer space or"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "result from alien contamination of"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "Earth's environment."}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "US StratCom con plan 8888 section 4"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "subsection 6 zombie threat summary part"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "four space zombies SCS are zombie life"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "forms originating from space or created"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "by toxic contamination of the earth"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "environment via some form of"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "extraterrestrial toxin or radiation"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:13", "text": ">> NASA and the military already have"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "protocols to prevent contamination from"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "space missions when Apollo astronauts"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "return from the moon they spend 21 days"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "in quarantine. The concern was that"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "lunar microorganisms might be dangerous"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "to life on Earth."}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:27", "text": ">> You mean when the astronauts returned"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "from the sound stage in Burbank, they"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "had to make sure they didn't pick up a"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "bug from the San Fernando Valley."}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:34", "text": ">> Let's not do this now."}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:37", "text": ">> The Valley flu, they call it. Symptoms"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "include attraction to shopping malls,"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "degraded parking skills, and an"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "insatiable appetite for Baja Fresh."}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:46", "text": ">> They make good burritos."}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:48", "text": ">> Dot do."}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "But NASA protocols won't help if toxins"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:53", "text": "land outside the jurisdiction of the"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "United States. Because SC's come from"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "space, they can affect any place on"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "Earth."}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:03", "text": ">> US StratCom Con plan 888 section 4"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "subsection 5 conditions for"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "implementation part A continued."}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "Asteroids and nuclear space radiation"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "that can convert people into zombies can"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "affect any land mass or population on"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "Earth. Given the rapidity at which"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "zombie outbreaks spread, decisive,"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "overwhelming, and possibly unilateral"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "military force may be required to negate"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "the zombie threat."}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "Real scientific research shows organisms"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "survive where life should be impossible."}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "These extreophiles include tardigrades"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "that withstand the vacuum of space. If"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "similar organisms exist elsewhere in the"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "solar system, they might be incompatible"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "with human biology."}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "Large asteroids or comets could carry"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "alien microorganisms or radioactive"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "materials. The Tagusa event in 1908"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "flattened over a thousand square miles"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "of Siberian forest. If a similar impact"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "happened over a populated area, alien"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "contamination would spread before anyone"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "could respond."}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "Con plan 888 states nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "would be the most effective counter to"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "space zombies. The logic, if"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "contamination can't be contained,"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "incineration at nuclear temperatures"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:12", "text": "becomes the only option. But there's one"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "zombie type that concerns the military"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "more than any other. It can't be killed"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:18", "text": "with conventional weapons. It can't be"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "killed with nuclear weapons. The only"}, {"start": "01:12:18", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "way to fight this zombie is with God."}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "Evil magic zombies. The document"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "actually uses those words. The Pentagon"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "has an official position on supernatural"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "threats."}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:53", "text": ">> US StratCom con plan 888. Section 4,"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "subsection 6, zombie threat summary,"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "part three. Evil magic zombies. Of the"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "classes of zombies, one type is caused"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "by occult phenomena that cannot be"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "reliably monitored, predicted, or proven"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "to exist. Zombies caused by occult"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "phenomena are EMZs."}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "The only way to ensure a zombie is dead"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "is to burn the zombie corpse. EMZs are"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "the only class of zombie that may not be"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "vulnerable to this measure. Despite"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "being the hardest threats to eliminate"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "directly by attacking the zombie life"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "form, EMZs can usually be eliminated if"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "the source of evil magic is destroyed."}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "There is evidence to suggest the"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "Chaplain Corps may prove integral to"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "countering these threats."}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "The military takes this seriously enough"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "to assign the Chaplain Corps as primary"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "defense. Now, think about that. The"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "Pentagon believes defeating these"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "zombies might require divine"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "intervention."}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:51", "text": ">> You're Jon Snow intervention,"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:53", "text": ">> right? Thousands of years ago, there"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "came a night that lasted a generation."}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "Kings froze to death in their castles,"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "same as the shepherds in their hoods."}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "Women smothered their babies rather than"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:04", "text": "see them starve and wept and felt the"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "tears freeze on their cheeks. So is it"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "for the long night and the white"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "walkers?"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:10", "text": ">> Oh man,"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": ">> I know what it is. But yes, white"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "walkers and whites in Game of Thrones"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "are evil magic zombies."}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "Fighting the supernatural isn't new to"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "the military. During World War II, both"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "sides employed occult research"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "divisions. The Nazis had the Aderva. The"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:27", "text": "Allies had their own paranormal units."}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "Churchill consulted astrologers. The US"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "Army investigated psychic warfare during"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "the Cold War. Now, it may seem that the"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "military has everything figured out."}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "They've identified each type of zombie"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "threat. They understand how to fight"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "them. But not so fast. Buried on page 16"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "is a single unsettling section."}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "US stratcom con plan 8888 section 4"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "subsection 13.3 shortfalls and limiting"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "factors adequate zombie defenses require"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "sandbags, sand, barbed wire,"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "anti-personnel mines, riot control"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "chemical agents, and petroleum to create"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "flame barriers."}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "These supplies may not be present in"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "sufficient volume to defend against"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "zombie incursion and could severely tax"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "available logistical support"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "infrastructure."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "US Stratcom forces do not currently hold"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "enough contingency stores, food, water"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "to support 30 days of barricaded counter"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "zombie operations. And US Stratcom has"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "no ground combat forces capable of"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "repelling a zombie assault."}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": ">> Several zombie types identified,"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "specific tactical recommendations,"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "containment protocols, resource"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "requirements, but not enough soldiers in"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "the army to actually win. So, the"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "military created a new army, an army of"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "millions of soldiers, all trained to"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "survive the zombie apocalypse. And for"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "years, these soldiers have been learning"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "how to organize, how to fight, and how"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "to rebuild civilization. This army has"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "been built in secret, but also in plain"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "sight. Because the soldiers of this army"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "are us."}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "The military knows how to fight zombies."}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "They have a plan, but they don't have"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "the soldiers. So, they created them. Us."}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "The military developed a psychological"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "operation that trained millions of"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "civilians without them knowing it. The"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "Walking Dead premiered on October 31st,"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "2010, the same year conplan 8888"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "finished development. World War Z"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "started filming in 2011 and was released"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "in 2013. The Last of Us game launched in"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "2013, all during the exact time this"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "military document was finalized and"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "declassified."}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "Think about what these shows taught you."}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "Survival tactics, supply management,"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "team dynamics, trust no one, secure your"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "perimeter, always have an escape plan."}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "Millions of Americans absorbed zombie"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "apocalypse protocols through"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "entertainment. The training was subtle"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "but effective. I've watched every"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "Walking Dead episode."}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:07", "text": ">> Okay. I watched up until season 5."}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:09", "text": ">> I played The Last of Us games."}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:12", "text": ">> I played the first one."}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:14", "text": ">> The Walking Dead, Last of Us, World War"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "Z. We've all consumed the same content"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "and we learned the same lessons. The"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "military didn't need boot camps. They"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "had Netflix. But the SCUP might distract"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "from the real secret. Con plan 888"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "contains multiple references to"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "classified annexes never released"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "publicly. The document repeatedly"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "mentions Annex C detailing space control"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "capabilities. Page after page references"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "classified sections stripped from the"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "public version. AnnexS covers special"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "technical operations. AnnexD handles"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "classified logistics. Throughout the"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "document, footnotes point to information"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "marked secret or higher. The zombie"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "scenarios were unclassified. The real"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "military capabilities stayed hidden."}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "The most telling detail is buried in the"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:04", "text": "tactical sections. Conplan 888 works"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "alongside other military plans. Con plan"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "8035 for space operations. con plan 8531"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "for flu pandemics and con plan 8099 for"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "combating WMDs. These are active"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "military plans, not training exercises."}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "Because the zombie plan is unclassified,"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:25", "text": "it implies the threat isn't real. But"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "the classified military capabilities are"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "real. There's clearly some kind of"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "threat. So the big question is, how do"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "you survive it?"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "When the outbreak starts, you have about"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "48 hours before everything falls apart."}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:48", "text": ">> Darkness falls across the land. The"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "midnight hour is close at hand."}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:53", "text": ">> The creatures crawl in search of blood"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "to terrorize y'all's neighborhood."}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:55", "text": ">> You got that out of your system?"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:58", "text": ">> Almost."}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:00", "text": ">> Great. The people who survive aren't"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "lucky. They're prepared. Your location"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "determines your survival. If you're in a"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "city, get out fast. Cities become death"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "traps. All those people packed together,"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "that's a zombie buffet. And in a dense"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "population center, the infection will"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "spread faster than it can be contained."}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:17", "text": "Hospitals fill with infected who don't"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "know what's happening to them. They"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "stumble into emergency rooms and spread"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "the virus to medical staff and don't"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "call 911. Police stations get overrun by"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "panicked citizens looking for weapons."}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "The smart cops go home to protect their"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "families. The rest become casualties."}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "You need to be somewhere remote. A"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "cabin, a homestead, or a farm. If you"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "don't own one, better know someone who"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "does. Those places have what matters:"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "food, water, and people who know how to"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "defend them."}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "Guns are loud. They attract attention"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "you don't want. A bow and arrow works"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "better. So does a knife, a bat, or a"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "crowbar. Quiet weapons keep you alive"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "longer. Skip the supermarkets. They're"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "already swaring with desperate people."}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "You need supplies ready before disaster"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "strikes. Prep a bugout bag. Forget the"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "bottled water. Carry water purification"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "tablets or a life straw water filter."}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "Iodine pills for radiation exposure."}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "You'll need food. MREs last 30 years,"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "but food is heavy. Better if you learn"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "how to hunt, clean, and cook your own"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "meals. Pack paracord rated for 500 lb."}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "It could be used for everything."}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "Securing shelter, making tourniquets,"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "starting fires, and it works as fishing"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "line. Pack a solar radio. Solar"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "flashlight, real band-aids, and N95"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "masks. Take signaling mirrors and"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "whistles, toothbrush, toothpaste,"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "toiletries. When you're stuck in the"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "wild, you'll be happy you remembered"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "those. In my kit, I keep thermal"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "blankets, a small propane stove, and"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "glow sticks. I've got a fire starter, a"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "multi-tool, three different kinds of"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "knives."}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "Bring a needle and thread. Good for"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "repairing clothes and sewing up wounds."}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "And if you don't have the stomach to"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "stitch a cut, crazy glue will do in a"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "pinch. And don't forget duct tape. It"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "fixes everything and reinforces"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "barricades. I even keep mini bugout bags"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "in all my vehicles. You can pick one up"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "for about 40 bucks and I'll link below"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "to the gear I use."}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "Once you're out of the chaos, find a"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "place where you can rest. Watch your"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "lines of sight. Learn to set a"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "perimeter. Trip wires and snares."}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "Anything to alert you to danger and find"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "other people. Pull resources. Exchange"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "knowledge and skills. Know your"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "strengths and find people to shore up"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "your weaknesses. Some people are"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "fighters, some are farmers, some are"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "planners, some are builders, their"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "safety and numbers. But when connecting"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "with strangers, trust your gut. Whether"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "it's conplan 8888 or some generic"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "survival guide, they'll tell you the"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "same thing. When the end of the world"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "comes, the most dangerous thing you'll"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "face isn't zombies, it's other people."}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "We followed con plan 8888 from a zombie"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "outbreak at Offet Air Force Base through"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "classified space operations and"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "potential psychological warfare. The"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "military created detailed protocols for"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "fighting the undead. So what's actually"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:16", "text": "real? Well, comp plan 8888 is exactly"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:18", "text": "what the Pentagon says it is, a training"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "exercise. Junior officers created it to"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "learn planning procedures. Using an"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "impossible scenario avoids diplomatic"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "problems. So rather than create a plan"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "to defeat Russians or Chinese, the"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "enemies are evil magic zombies. Everyone"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "understands its practice. The zombie"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "scup theory also doesn't hold up. The"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "timing of conplan 8888 being released at"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "the same time as zombie movies and TV"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "shows wasn't coordination. It was"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "coincidence. Hollywood always follows"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "the money. Remember we had 10 or 15"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "years of superhero movies released one"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "after the other. Now not so much."}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:54", "text": ">> Yeah, thanks a lot Disney."}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:57", "text": ">> We had zombies before conplan 8888."}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "White Zombie came out in 1932. George"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "Romero created modern zombies with Night"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "of the Living Dead in 1968. Dawn of the"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "Dead in 1978, set the template for"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "everything that followed. The Walking"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "Dead comics started in 2003. Studios see"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "profit and then fled the market. But"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "dismissing this as just a joke would be"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "a mistake. Con plan 8888 connects to"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "real military plans. Con plan 8035, COP"}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "plan 8531, conplan 8099. These aren't"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "exercises, they're operational."}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "The plan's real value is seeing the"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "military acknowledge how fast society"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "could collapse. It admits there are"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "scenarios where the military can't win."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "A plan to defeat zombies is hard for the"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "public to take seriously, but maybe"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "that's the point. Maybe conplan 8888 is"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "a clever distraction. The story isn't in"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "the document they show us. It's in the"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:55", "text": "documents they hide. Conplan 8888"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "repeatedly references classified annexes"}, {"start": "01:23:55", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "that were stripped from the public"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "version, but we know they exist. We just"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "don't know what they are. We know they"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "reference space-based operations, but we"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "don't know what threats they address or"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "what capabilities they describe. and"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "they're not going to tell us. And that's"}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:13", "text": "why I believe con plan 8888 is an"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "important document. In some ways, it"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "paints the American people as distracted"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "and selfish. And there's some truth to"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "that. But things change in a crisis. To"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "save our families and our communities,"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "people will step up. Not everyone, but"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "enough to matter. And whether"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "intentional or not, Conplan 888 teaches"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "valuable lessons about preparation and"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "resource management. Those are good"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "skills to learn and start learning them"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "now. When society collapses, nobody's"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "coming to save us. We are the first"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "responders. So train like one. Prepare"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "like one. The difference between a life"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "lost and a life saved could be you. So"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "get to know your neighbors. Learn how to"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "communicate, how to plan, how to"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "survive. If you don't learn these skills"}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "now, it could come back to bite you."}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "zombies,"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "right, L? Next episode was chosen by the"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "hybrid. You heard that right, the"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "hybrid. His real name is Rich Dick."}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "Okay. Okay. Come on, Morgan. Be a"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "professional. Next episode is about"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "liinal spaces. Beaver keeping it creepy."}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:39", "text": ">> In the past year or so, three internet"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "mysteries popped up that really got my"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "attention. They may seem very different,"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "but trust me, they're connected. The"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "first one is about a girl who found a"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "door in the basement of her Airbnb. She"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "opened it and inside there was an"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "abandoned shopping mall. The second"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "story is about Javier who woke up in a"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "hospital in the year 2027 in an"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "alternate universe. In his version of"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "the future, everyone on Earth has"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "vanished. He's the only one left, and he"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "has the video to prove it. The third"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "mystery is known as the back rooms. A"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "reality adjacent to ours that if the"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "conditions are just right, you can"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "accidentally fall into. Then you find"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "yourself lost in an endless maze of"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "dingy carpet, fluorescent light, and"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "yellow wallpaper. And around every"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "corner,"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:32", "text": "An abandoned mall, a deserted world, a"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "maze in another dimension. What do these"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "have in common?"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:39", "text": ">> Uh, terrible places to have a vacation."}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "Um, uh, good places to hide a body."}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:43", "text": ">> What are you doing?"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:46", "text": ">> Hello. You asked what those places have"}, {"start": "01:26:43", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "in common. I'm answering your question."}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:49", "text": ">> I was being rhetorical. I'm trying to"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "build drama and suspense."}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:53", "text": ">> Oh, well, you're on the wrong channel,"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "buddy boy. What these locations have in"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "common is limonality, or more"}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "specifically, they're liinal spaces. A"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "liinal space is defined as a place of"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "transition, a threshold between two"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "distinctly different points, signaling"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "the end of one and the beginning of"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "another. Limitinal spaces do exist as"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "physical locations, but they can also be"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "an emotional experience. They occur"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "during periods of uncertainty and major"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "life changes. Events like a divorce or"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "breakup, the death of a loved one, the"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "birth of a child, moving to a new city,"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "ending or starting a new career. All"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "these create limonality in our mind."}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "Meaning our life before this event is"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:35", "text": "over and a new period of life is about"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "to begin. Limmonality is the unease and"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "apprehension we feel during this"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "transition. Limitable spaces in the real"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "world are a bit more difficult to"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "define, but you know one when you see"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "one. Think of an airport in the middle"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "of the night, school during summer"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "break, a house just after someone moves"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:56", "text": "out, or in this case, an accidentally"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:56", "text": "discovered abandoned shopping mall."}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "Now, you could tell by the video that"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "she's having fun, but she's also a"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "little uncomfortable. She's experiencing"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "the anxiety of a liinal space. Now,"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "while not all liinal spaces are so"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "unsettling, the type of space currently"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "coursing through the internet will have"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "a few common features. They'll feel both"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "familiar and strange. If you browse"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "through photos on the liinal space"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "subreddit, you'll come across many"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "locations that you could swear you've"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "been to, evoking a strange feeling of"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "nostalgia for a place you've never been."}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "Another common trait is that places are"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "out of context, like a waiting room with"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "one chair, a plane with no seats, a"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "flooded metro station, or a submerged"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "staircase. Have you ever watched a video"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "of the Titanic on the bottom of the"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "ocean? When you see the staircases and"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "furniture completely underwater, this"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "evokes limonality. This outof context"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "imagery triggers anxiety similar to"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "uncanny valley, the feeling that"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "something is just not right. Limitinal"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "spaces are often places you might have"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "visited as a child. Roller rinks are"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "commonly thought of as liinal. Bowling"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "alleys, arcades, or an empty"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "Chuck-e-Cheese."}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:27", "text": ">> The only thing scarier than an empty"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "Chuck-e-Cheese is a crowded"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "Chuck-E-Cheese."}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "You got that right. But something you'll"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "notice about all these places, they're"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "empty. And that seems to be the most"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:47", "text": "unsettling aspect of all. These spaces"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "are transitional because they're in"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "between places, not meant for anyone to"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "stay very long. But they're still meant"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "for people. Yet, these sit empty,"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "waiting to fulfill their use, waiting"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "for people. people that in some cases"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "never arrive. Now all of us from time to"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "time stumble into a liinal space, a"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "supermarket in the middle of the night,"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "an empty office, an amusement park off"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:12", "text": "season."}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "But what if you woke up one day and the"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "entire world was deserted and every"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "space was a liinal space?"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "Tik Tok has no shortage of quote unquote"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "timetravel accounts. Some are"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "entertaining, but they're mostly just"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "goofy. But one account stands out from"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "the rest. Javier, a Spanish creator"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "whose account is Unigo Viente, which"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:44", "text": "means"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> only survivor."}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:51", "text": ">> Oh, you speak Spanish now?"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:52", "text": ">> Well, this account."}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "Okay, I get it. Do you mind if I"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:56", "text": ">> No problem, amigo."}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:58", "text": ">> Well, this account is unique because he"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "posts actual videos of deserted"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "department stores, supermarkets, even"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "entire football stadiums. Javier woke up"}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "in a hospital in Valencia on February"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "13th, 2027, and claims to be in an"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "alternative universe. Apparently, at"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "some point in the near future, every"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "human on Earth just disappears. He said"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "that when he woke up, he couldn't"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "remember his name or where he lived. He"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "went outside and everyone was just gone."}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "Everything appeared just like 2021, but"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "electronic devices showed 2027. Now, his"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "videos are fascinating, and I'll link to"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "his account down below. And when you're"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "watching, remember that Valencia has a"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "population of over 800,000 people, and"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "the surrounding area has almost 2"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "million people."}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "And despite Valencia being a big city,"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "there are no people in these videos. He"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "goes to random apartments."}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "He crashes at exclusive hotels."}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "He accepts challenges to go to places"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "that most people can't go. Fire and"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "police departments,"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "even steals a few police cars."}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "He goes to a military base."}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "Some skeptics claim he's recording all"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": "this early in the morning. He responds"}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "by recording himself walking by public"}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "signs with a time on them."}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "And there aren't many Tik Tockers who"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "can reprogram a public digital sign."}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "He's challenged to go to a hospital, not"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "an old deserted one, an actual modern"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "hospital. And he does it."}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "A lot of the places he visits do have"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "off hours, but hospitals are full of"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "people 24/7, but not these. Javier also"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "claims our two worlds are connected."}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "He's able to interact with objects in"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "his world, which affects objects here."}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "For example, a Spanish television show"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "challenged Javier by leaving a book"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:21", "text": "hidden on their set and told him to find"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:21", "text": "it and move it. He did."}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "And when the studio went back to watch"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "the security footage, you can see the"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "door open and close. And just for a"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "quick moment, you see some kind of"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "figure flash by."}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:09", "text": "No, no, no."}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "Now, it would be terrifying to wake up"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "alone in the world where every place you"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "visit is a different liinal space. But"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "worse than that would be waking up in a"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "single liinal space that goes on"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "forever. And that place has a name, the"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "back rooms."}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "The Back Rooms is an internet mystery"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "that began like many internet mysteries"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "do on 4chan. Someone asked members to"}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "submit disquing images that just feel"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "off. An anonymous user posted this"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "photograph. Everyone who saw the image"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "agreed it was strangely familiar but"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "unsettling, though nobody could explain"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "why. Finally, a follow-up comment"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "described it. If you're not careful and"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "you no clip out of reality in the wrong"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "areas, you'll end up in the back rooms"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "where it's nothing but the stink of old"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "moist carpet, the madness mono yellow,"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "the endless background noise of"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "fluorescent lights, and maximum hum, and"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "approximately 600 million square miles"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "of randomly segmented empty rooms to be"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "trapped in. God save you if you hear"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "something wandering around nearby"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "because it sure as hell has heard you."}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:32", "text": ">> Uh, no clip. Well, no clip is a video"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "game term. When two objects overlap,"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "that's clipping. No clipping means"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "crossing boundaries in a game that"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "you're not supposed to cross and ending"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "up in areas not meant for the player."}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "The back room's theory says it's"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "possible to noclipip into a different"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "reality adjacent to ours, a reality"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "you're not meant to ever see. Remember,"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "liinal spaces are transitional. You're"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "not supposed to stay there very long."}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "You instinctively want to get out to"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "move on. The back rooms are unnerving"}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "because you can't. It's an endless"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "liinal space with no escape. Something"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "about the back rooms connected with"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "people and an entire culture was"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "organically developed around the"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "concept. Completely communitydriven, the"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "back rooms has become crowdsourced IP"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "with its own cannon and lore. And there"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "are now hundreds of levels of back"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "rooms, each with their own stories,"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:23", "text": "their own rules, inhabitants, objects,"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "even hazards. Fans can contribute to the"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "lore through a few different wikis"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "completely dedicated to the back rooms."}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "Still, the back rooms lived in dark"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "corners of the internet. What brought"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "the concept to the mainstream was a"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "series of short videos by a creator"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "named Kane Parsons. Using an ingenious"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "combination of liveaction and 3D"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "animation wrapped in a low tech package,"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "these videos give us a glimpse of what"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "being trapped in the back rooms would"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "feel like. The videos also prove that"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "liinal spaces are not a fringe theory."}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "Millions of people have watched these."}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:57", "text": "Clearly, the concept of limonality is"}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "universal. The video series begins with"}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "a group of kids shooting what looks like"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "a student film in 1996. The camera"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "operator suddenly no clips through the"}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "ground and falls into the back rooms."}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:09", "text": ">> A little more."}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:13", "text": ">> A little more."}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:13", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "Hello."}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:25", "text": ">> It doesn't take long for us to realize"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "that we're not alone in the back rooms."}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "There's some entity aware of us and"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "seems to follow us through the maze of"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "empty yellow office space."}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:36", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "Some moments are definitely scary, but"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "even when not being outright terrifying,"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "the entire series is unsettling. As you,"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "through the eyes of the lost cameraman,"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "explore the back rooms, you have a sense"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "that you've been here before. I"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "certainly have. There are certain angles"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "and ways the walls are arranged that"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "remind me of offices that I've worked at"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "at different points in my life. I worked"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "jobs where the only light was overhead"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "bulbs and the only time you'd see the"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "sun or the sky was if you were lucky"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "enough to run out for lunch. That was my"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "job last year, actually. For anyone"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "who's worked in an office like this,"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "there's a feeling of claustrophobia, of"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "being trapped like a prisoner, where"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "time seems to slow down and hours feel"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "like they last for days. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "for people trapped in the back rooms,"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "time doesn't exist at all. There is no"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "past and no future. So no brief rest bit"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "for lunch, no exhilaration at the end of"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "a long boring day. The only time is the"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "present. And like the space itself, the"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "present is infinite. Eventually our hero"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "discovers graffiti on a wall which tells"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "him to stay still. That turns out to be"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "a terrible idea."}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:47", "text": "After fleeing from the entity, we're"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "taken to various locations which are"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "essentially recreations of common photos"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "of liinal spaces. the empty apartment,"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "the deserted quad. And Kane's short film"}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "then builds on tried and trueue horror"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "movie tropes like pursuit,"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "claustrophobia, disorientation, and of"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "course, the jump scare."}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "Kane's subsequent videos build on the"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "lore of the back rooms. The tone shifts"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "from jump scare horror into more of a"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "dystopian sci-fi thriller. It seems that"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "there are ruptures in our world that"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "allow people to accidentally pass into"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "the back rooms. This explains why the"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "number of missing people is on the rise."}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "Eventually, a corporation creates a"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "prototype machine to access the back"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "rooms. And this is hailed as a"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "world-saving technology. Because the"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "back rooms are so large, hundreds of"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "millions of square miles, they can be"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "used for storage, housing, even"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "transport. Now, of course, things go"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "wrong along the way. We have researchers"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "trying to map the back rooms, getting"}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "lost, and falling into different levels"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "and all kinds of chaos."}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:55", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:58", "text": ">> What do you say?"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:40:01", "text": ">> Everything okay?"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:07", "text": ">> Uh, get the camera over here"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:07", "text": ">> across. Okay, just hurry. Okay."}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "The series is still ongoing, so"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "subscribe to Cane Pixels if you want to"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "see what happens next. But you don't"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "have to wait for Kane. Other creators"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "have picked up the mantle and attempted"}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "to continue the story. I think we just"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "saw someone running."}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "Missing Juanita Estz now age 16 last"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "seen Yuba City California November 27th"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "1984 call 800"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "sir"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> Hello can you help me get down there's"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "something up."}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:04", "text": ">> Please"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:05", "text": ">> stay right where you are. Stay right"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "where you are. We're going to try and"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "get you down."}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:10", "text": ">> To me, all these versions are equally"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "interesting and unsettling. The"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "backroom's concept has spawned other"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "media as well. A viral Tik Tok shows"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "someone using Google Earth to zoom in on"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "a location in Japan. As they move inside"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "the building, we see the familiar"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "wallpaper, carpet, fluorescent lights,"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:28", "text": "and this time, different objects and"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "entities. Indie developers are"}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "publishing video games based on the back"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "rooms and liinal spaces. Anamoyopoulos"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "is one that looks interesting. It"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "combines the uncanny Illiminal space"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:41", "text": "concept with classic firstperson horror"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "and puzzle solving elements."}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "Illimmonality may seem like the cool new"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "thing and it's no coincidence that its"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "popularity surged during co lockdowns"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "when everyone was feeling isolated, but"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "the concept has been around a long time."}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "The phrase was created by Arnold van"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "Gennup in his book rights of passage"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "released in 1908. And Gup was more"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "focused on life experiences like"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "transitioning from childhood to"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "adulthood, graduating high school or"}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "moving to a new city. And this concept"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "of an in between place whether physical"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "or emotional has been explored in media"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "and pop culture for years. Rod Surling"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "famously said,"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> \"It is the middle ground between light"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "and shadow, between science and"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "superstition, and it lies between the"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "pit of man's fears and the summit of his"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "knowledge.\""}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:30", "text": ">> The Shining is an entire movie based"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "around the idea of limonality, the"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "abandoned hotel, spooky hallways that go"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "on forever, and you never know what"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "lurks around each corner."}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "Horror movies like It Follows and Silent"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "Hill also used liinal spaces to amp up"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:51", "text": "the creepiness. And recently, the Apple"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "TV sci-fi thriller Severance uses liinal"}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "spaces as a backdrop for the entire"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "series. The large empty spaces, hallways"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "that create such a confusing maze that"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "you have to draw maps to find your way"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "around. And the dual reality concept of"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "Severs is similar to the back rooms. You"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "have one reality where you live your"}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "life as you normally would. But when you"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "get to work, you are severed from this"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "reality and transition to a new reality."}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "A reality comprised completely of"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "limonality. And you can't have a"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "post-apocalyptic story without"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "limonality. That feeling of being the"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "last person on Earth, walking through"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "spaces once teameming with life, now"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "left abandoned and forgotten. The human"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "brain is not wired for this kind of"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "isolation, which is why these tropes are"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "so effective. And speaking of the"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "apocalypse, let's circle back to our two"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "other mysteries and see if we can figure"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "out what's really going on."}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "Javier, the lonely survivor in Spain,"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:52", "text": ">> he has a very interesting and compelling"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "Tik Tok account, and people are"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "constantly trying to debunk him. Some"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "say his hands look different in each"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "video, implying that he's actually a"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "team. And there may be something to"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "that. You have to dig really deep, but"}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "it turns out that Javier is working with"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "the city of Valencia on a media project"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:11", "text": "called The Lonely Survivor, which is why"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "he has access to all these places and"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "why he's able to clear out entire"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "stadiums, busy streets, even sections of"}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "hospitals. So, it's not some future"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "reality. It's just a TV production team"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "with filming permits. Now, Javier won't"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "admit his account is just a project, and"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "I don't blame him. It's fun to maintain"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "an air of mystery, but if you watch"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "enough of his videos, you realize it"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "would be so easy for him to prove that"}, {"start": "01:44:31", "end": "01:44:35", "text": "he's in a different reality or in the"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "future. He could show the dates on"}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "tombstones. He could time-lapse an"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "entire weekend at a typically busy"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "airport or just fly his drone around the"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "city at rush hour. He never does this."}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "His environments are highly controlled,"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "but still, the videos are fun. and the"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "young lady who discovered an abandoned"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "mall in the basement of her Airbnb. The"}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "video has a supernatural feel to it, but"}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "it's really not that strange. Her Airbnb"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "is actually a hotel that shares a"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "building with the Oceanwalk Mall in"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "Hollywood Beach, Florida. An Oceanwalk"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "is what's called a dead mall, though a"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "better name for a dead mall is probably"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "a zombie mall. It's a shopping mall that"}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "nobody really goes to anymore, but it's"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "still open and somewhat functioning. And"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "dead malls are everywhere all over the"}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "country. And it's not hard to understand"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "why malls are dying."}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:22", "text": ">> Amazon."}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:25", "text": ">> Well, pretty much online shopping and"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:27", "text": "the online economy. But when I was a"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "kid, you bought your groceries at the"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "supermarket and you bought everything"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "else at the mall. Clothes, electronics,"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "sporting goods, toys, everything. And in"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "many suburban towns like the ones I grew"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:41", "text": "up in, the mall was a community social"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "center. Families would spend all day"}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "there. You'd shop, eat, shop, and eat"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "some more all day. And as a teenager,"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "we'd hang out at the mall. We'd go"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:52", "text": "around lunchtime. We'd see a movie, lurk"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "in the arcade, and talk to girls."}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:55", "text": ">> You would talk to girls?"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:56", "text": ">> Well, I wanted to, but I wasn't very"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "good at it."}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:58", "text": ">> Checks out."}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:01", "text": ">> Well, high school and college kids from"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "the area often work at these shops. In"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "fact, this is the mall that we went to"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:06", "text": "when I was a kid and worked at all"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:09", "text": "through high school and college. Back in"}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "those days, the mall was always packed."}, {"start": "01:46:09", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "When was that? The 1950s."}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:16", "text": ">> Not that long ago, but close enough. But"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "now look at it. That's not the mall I"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "remember. There's a sadness to these"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "spaces. There's nostalgia. There's the"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:27", "text": "reminder that everything moves forward."}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "Everything changes. What once was will"}, {"start": "01:46:27", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "never again be. These transitions and"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "rights of passage are an important part"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "of life. They show our courage, our"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "resilience, our perseverance. They make"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "us who we are. But whether a location in"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "the world or a transitional moment in"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "our lives, every liinal space has the"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "same point to find your way out."}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:57", "text": ">> Ready for the next one? This episode was"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "chosen by Haley. She's our spicy ginger."}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "Seriously, she writes the dirtiest"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "jokes. She's so nasty."}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:06", "text": "We're taking a trip down to the"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "Grooveyard for the episode about John"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:09", "text": "Wils Booth."}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:13", "text": ">> Everyone thinks they know how Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:15", "text": "died. John Wils Booth shot the"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "president, escaped, and was killed 12"}, {"start": "01:47:15", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "days later on a Virginia farm."}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "But the FBI's own forensic tests,"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "discovered Booth's diary is missing 86"}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "pages. Pages filled with names,"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "payments, and secrets. Lincoln's"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "assassination wasn't the work of a"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "single extremist. It was a plot to take"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "control of America, and it worked. The"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "evidence exposes secret allies, strange"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "cover-ups, and why the truth was buried"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "for more than a century. This isn't the"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "story of how John Wils Booth died. This"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "is the story of how he escaped and who"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "helped him do it."}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "In early 1865, the Civil War was in its"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "fourth brutal year. The Confederates"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "were losing, but they continued to fight"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "and Union casualties continued to mount."}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:12", "text": "During this time, John Wils Booth was"}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:14", "text": "one of the most famous actors in"}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "America. He was known for his emotional"}, {"start": "01:48:14", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "performances and striking good looks."}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "Dark hair, unusually dark eyes, he was"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:23", "text": "lean and athletic. He was the first"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "documented celebrity to have his clothes"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "torn by infatuated fans. I am ever so"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "grateful, sir."}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:32", "text": ">> It is my pleasure entirely."}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:34", "text": ">> Booth was obsessed with Shakespeare's"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "Julius Caesar, a play he performed with"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "his brothers. He saw Lincoln as a tyrant"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "like Caesar. Booth was from Maryland, a"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "slave state. He identified as a"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "southerner, so when war broke out, he"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "became a Confederate spy. As an A-list"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "celebrity, he could move freely in"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "polite society. He socialized with"}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "wealthy businessmen, politicians, and"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "all kinds of important people. He then"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "sent their secrets to the Confederates."}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:01", "text": "Through a clerk with access to Lincoln's"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "private correspondence, Booth saw the"}, {"start": "01:49:01", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "president's plan for after the war, and"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:08", "text": "it horrified him. Confederate leaders"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "would be tried for treason. Their land"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "would be given to former slaves who"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "would also get the right to vote."}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "Everything the South stood for would be"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:21", "text": "erased from history. He had to act."}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "Booth came up with a bold plan. Kidnap"}, {"start": "01:49:21", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "Lincoln. If the North wanted their"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "president back alive, they would have to"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:30", "text": "release all Confederate prisoners of war"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "and give the South better terms. Booth"}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "assembled a team and after months of"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "planning, they were ready. Then, just"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "before the plan went into motion,"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "General Robert E. Lee surrendered at"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "Appamatics. Booth was devastated. The"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "war was over and now the kidnapping plot"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "was useless."}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "Then Booth had a stroke of luck. He"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "overheard that the president would be"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "attending a play at Ford's Theater in"}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:56", "text": "Washington DC. Booth knew the theater"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "well. He performed there many times. He"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "even knew where the president would be"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:02", "text": "sitting because Lincoln attended one of"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:04", "text": "Booth's performances there. So Booth"}, {"start": "01:50:02", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "came up with a new plan. Kill the"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "president during the play."}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "He knew he could move around the theater"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "freely without raising suspicion. So"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:16", "text": "getting in wasn't a problem. Getting out"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "was. But John Wils Booth had friends in"}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "high places who wanted Lincoln dead as"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "much as he did. They would help him"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "escape. His contacts weren't Confederate"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:27", "text": "spies deep in the South. They were right"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "here in Washington inside Lincoln's own"}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "cabinet."}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "Abraham Lincoln's second inaugural"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "address was about unity. He called"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "slavery a sin, but he avoided placing"}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "blame on the South. He famously said,"}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "\"With malice toward none and charity for"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:53", "text": "all.\" Lincoln wanted to pardon most"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "southerners and allow the states to"}, {"start": "01:50:53", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "regain their rights, but no slavery. The"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "plan was not universally wellreceived."}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "Like Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln was"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "surrounded by enemies."}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "On one side were the Democrats. They"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "wanted a quick return to the status quo."}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "They wanted most southerners pardoned"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "and most Democrats voted against freeing"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "the slaves. On the other side were the"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "radical Republicans. They wanted all"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "slaves freed and given the land seized"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "in the war. They wanted federal military"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "control of the southern states and harsh"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "punishment. Radical Republicans weren't"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "just in Congress. They were in Lincoln's"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "own cabinet."}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "Secretary of War Edwin Stanton was the"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "most powerful man in America after"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "Lincoln. He controlled the military and"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "all federal law enforcement agencies,"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "but he could not control President"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "Lincoln."}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "Stanton believed showing mercy to the"}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "South was a betrayal of everything the"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "Union soldiers died for. Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "wouldn't budge, but Vice President"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "Andrew Johnson would. His loyalty was"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:59", "text": "flexible. Stanton could control him and"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:01", "text": "become the real power in Washington."}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "Through his intelligence network,"}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:05", "text": "Stanton contacted John Wils Booth and"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "gave him everything he needed to kidnap"}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:10", "text": "Lincoln. With Lincoln gone, Congress"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "would impeach him. Johnson would step in"}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "and Stanton would control the"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "government."}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "But if the public learned of a coup, it"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "would divide the country. But if Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:21", "text": "were kidnapped by a Confederate"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:23", "text": "terrorist, the country would unite"}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "behind Johnson, essentially behind"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:28", "text": "Stanton. Booth was the perfect choice."}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "He was wealthy, famous, and an outspoken"}, {"start": "01:52:28", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "critic of Lincoln's. The whole country"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "would believe it. Booth agreed. Stanton"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "gave him Lincoln's schedule, security"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "details, funding, maps of escape routes,"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "everything he needed."}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "But the war ended. The kidnapping plot"}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "wouldn't work. Stanton was trying to"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "think of another solution when he"}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "learned that Booth was going to kill"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "Lincoln instead. It would happen in"}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "public during a play in a Washington"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "theater. Now, Stanton had a decision to"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "make. warn Lincoln and save his life or"}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "let Booth go through with it. Stanton"}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:03", "text": "made his choice. He made sure that the"}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "assassination would succeed. He removed"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "military escorts and left escape routes"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "open. General Ulissiz Srant was supposed"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:12", "text": "to join Lincoln at the theater. Stanton"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:15", "text": "gave him different orders. Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "requested that Major Thomas T. Eert be"}, {"start": "01:53:15", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "his bodyguard, but Stanton said he was"}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "needed elsewhere. He left Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "exposed. The more Stanton thought about"}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:26", "text": "the plan, the more he liked it. It was"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "clean and dramatic. It was perfect. But"}, {"start": "01:53:26", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "as the plot to kill Lincoln unfolded,"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "things would go very, very wrong."}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "He gives our slaves freedom that they"}, {"start": "01:53:53", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "take up arms against us. I swear the"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "man's gone mad."}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:01", "text": ">> You know what he'll do next? Bring his"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "carpet baggers down here. Northern men"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "with clean coats and dirty hands buying"}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "up what's left for pennies. I did not"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "fight to live under a Yankee boot."}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "Lincoln cannot be allowed to continue."}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "This is tyranny. If Lincoln will not"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "listen to reason, we must take our"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": "grievances to the Congress. This is not"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "merely about politics anymore, sir. It"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "is about the future of the Republic. We"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "have to move against him now while we"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "still can. And what would you have us"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "do? The wars lost, the Confederacy's"}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "ashes. What's left but survival?"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "Sometimes survival is cowardice."}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "Sometimes history demands blood to"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "balance the scales. You speak"}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "of treason."}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "I speak of patriotism. Careful, John."}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:52", "text": "Union spies are everywhere."}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:55", "text": "These walls have ears. Oh, let them"}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:57", "text": "hear. History listens, too. I'll not"}, {"start": "01:54:55", "end": "01:54:59", "text": "stand by while Lincoln crowns himself"}, {"start": "01:54:57", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "emperor of a mutilated nation. You're an"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "actor, not a soldier."}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "Don't play hero in the wrong tragedy."}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:12", "text": ">> Every play needs its villain. History"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "will decide which one I am."}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "On April 14th, 1865, Washington DC was"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:25", "text": "celebrating. Roberty Lee had surrendered"}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "at Appamatics 5 days earlier. The Civil"}, {"start": "01:55:25", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "War was over. But something had Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "rattled."}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:35", "text": "During a cabinet meeting, he mentioned a"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:37", "text": "recurring dream he had about a president"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "being assassinated, killed by a shot to"}, {"start": "01:55:37", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "the back of the head. Secretary of War"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "Edwin Stanton listened, but said"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "nothing. President Lincoln and his wife"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "Mary Todd decided to celebrate by"}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:50", "text": "watching a performance of Our American"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:52", "text": "Cousin that night at Ford's Theater."}, {"start": "01:55:50", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "Booth's plan went into motion. That"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "morning, he drilled a peepphole in the"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "door of the presidential box at the"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "theater. he'd know exactly when to make"}, {"start": "01:55:57", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "his move. Evening came and the president"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:04", "text": "and first lady settled into their seats."}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "Outside the door, Lincoln's bodyguard"}, {"start": "01:56:04", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "was replaced by John Parker, who had a"}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "history of being drunk and sleeping on"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "duty, assigned by Edwin Stanton."}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "Once the play started, Parker left his"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:19", "text": "post and headed for the saloon. The only"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:22", "text": "person left outside the door was Charles"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "Forbes, Lincoln's valet. Forbes wasn't a"}, {"start": "01:56:22", "end": "01:56:26", "text": "bodyguard. His job was to run errands"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "and plan travel. So when Booth"}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "approached the presidential box, Forbes"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "let him pass. Just another celebrity"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "stopping by to see the president."}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:37", "text": "Once inside, Booth quietly wedged a"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "piece of wood behind the door and broke"}, {"start": "01:56:37", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "the lock. Now all he had to do was wait"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "for the right moment. And that moment"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "would come during the third act, the"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "biggest laugh of the night. The line,"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "\"You suckizing old man trap.\" He knew"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "exactly when this line was said."}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "At 10:15 p.m., the audience exploded in"}, {"start": "01:56:55", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "laughter."}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "Booth stepped forward and raised his"}, {"start": "01:57:04", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "pistol. Ever thus to tyrants."}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "One shot. Lost in the roar of 1500"}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:18", "text": "people laughing. President Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "slumped in his chair."}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:22", "text": "Booth jumped from the box and onto the"}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "stage. At first, the crowd did nothing."}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "They thought this was part of the show."}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "Then Booth raised his knife and yelled"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "six seer tyrannis. Thus always to"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "tyrants. The line Brutus said when he"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "stabbed Julius Caesar. It's also the"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "state motto of Virginia. Booth turned to"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:39", "text": "run and felt pain shoot up his left leg."}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "He broke his ankle, but adrenaline kept"}, {"start": "01:57:39", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "him moving toward the unguarded back"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "door. Outside, a horse was waiting."}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "Within the hour, Edwin Stanton took"}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "control. He shut down every bridge"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:53", "text": "leaving Washington except one. The one"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:53", "text": "Booth used for his escape."}, {"start": "01:57:53", "end": "01:57:57", "text": "Everything had gone according to plan."}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "Lincoln was dead and Stanton would"}, {"start": "01:57:57", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "control the investigation himself. There"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "was just one final loose end Stanton had"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "to deal with. John Wilks booth."}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "Within hours of Lincoln's assassination,"}, {"start": "01:58:21", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "Secretary of War Edwin Stanton mobilized"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "the largest manhunt in American history."}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:30", "text": "Every bridge out of Washington was"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "sealed. Every road was blocked. Every"}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "farm was searched. The reward for John"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "Wils Booth and his conspirators was a"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "staggering $100,000, almost 2 million in"}, {"start": "01:58:38", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "today's money. The authorities preferred"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "him alive, but Edwin Stanton preferred"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "him dead. Booth hooked up with another"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "conspirator, David Harold. Together,"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:49", "text": "they slipped through the Union drag net"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "and headed toward Virginia. Their first"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:53", "text": "stop was Dr. Samuel Mud's farm in"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "southern Maryland. Mud set Booth's"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "broken leg and gave them a place to"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:59:00", "text": "rest. By dawn, word of the assassination"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "had spread. mud. Suddenly realizing the"}, {"start": "01:59:00", "end": "01:59:03", "text": "danger forced them to leave. David"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "Herald guided them deeper into"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "Confederate country. They moved at"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:09", "text": "night. They hid in swamps during the"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "day. Other Confederate agents gave them"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "food and newspapers. 6 days later, they"}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:16", "text": "crossed the Ptoic River into Virginia."}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:18", "text": "They thought they'd be safe in Virginia."}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "The Confederacy was dead, but"}, {"start": "01:59:18", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "Confederate sympathy was still very much"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "alive. They found shelter, food, and"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "horses from local farmers who still"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:29", "text": "hated the Union. But the manhunt was"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "closing in. On April 24th, Booth and"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "Herald reached the Garrett farm near"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "Port Royal, Virginia. Richard Garrett, a"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:36", "text": "tobacco farmer, offered them a place to"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "stay. He thought they were Confederate"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "soldiers heading home from the war. For"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "2 days, Booth rested and played with the"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:44", "text": "Garrett children. His broken leg was"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "feeling better. He talked about going to"}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:48", "text": "Mexico or maybe heading west. The future"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "looked possible again. But on the night"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:54", "text": "of April 25th, everything changed. 26"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "soldiers from the 16th New York Cavalry"}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "surrounded the barn. They called for the"}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "men to surrender or they would set fire"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:01", "text": "into the building. David Herald"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "immediately gave up. He stumbled out of"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:05", "text": "the barn with his hands raised, yelling,"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "\"Don't shoot. I'm David Herald.\" But"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "Booth refused to surrender. As the flame"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "started to grow, a soldier saw a figure"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "moving around inside. The man was"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "holding a rifle. The soldier raised his"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "pistol and shot the man through the"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "neck, severing his spinal cord. He"}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "couldn't move, but he could still"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "breathe, but just barely. The soldiers"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "dragged Booth out of the barn. He"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:28", "text": "whispered, \"Tell mother I die for my"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:31", "text": "country.\" By sunrise, John Wilk's Booth"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:33", "text": "was dead. Justice had been served. The"}, {"start": "02:00:31", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "case was closed, and America could"}, {"start": "02:00:33", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "finally move on. But John Wil's Booth"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "had a secret."}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "At the height of his career, John Wils"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "Booth was one of the highest paid"}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:53", "text": "entertainers in the world, earning close"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "to half a million dollars a year in"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "today's money. His career depended on"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:01:01", "text": "his bachelor image. But in 1859, Booth"}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "secretly married actress Isola Martha"}, {"start": "02:01:01", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "Mills. Within the years, Isola gave"}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "birth to their daughter, Ogarita. Booth"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "quietly supported them. The arrangement"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "worked until the assassination, and"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "after reports of Booth's death, John"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:17", "text": "Stevenson proposed to Isla. He'd loved"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "her for years, but she refused. She"}, {"start": "02:01:17", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "quietly told him she was still married."}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:23", "text": "Booth was alive and hiding in San"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "Francisco under a false identity. She"}, {"start": "02:01:23", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "was meeting him there in a few weeks. On"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "the other side of the country, a British"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:31", "text": "passport was issued to John Byron Wilks."}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:33", "text": "Wilks and his wife boarded the Indian"}, {"start": "02:01:31", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "Queen, a former Civil War blockade"}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "runner. John and Isla sailed to India,"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "but Isla couldn't stay. The heat, the"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:42", "text": "unfamiliar culture, the isolation. She"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "was pregnant again and couldn't imagine"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "raising a child in India, so she"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "returned to the States. Months passed"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:51", "text": "without a word from Booth, so John"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "Stevenson proposed again. This time she"}, {"start": "02:01:51", "end": "02:01:56", "text": "accepted. She needed stability for her"}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "unborn child. Stevenson said he would"}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:02:00", "text": "claim the child as his own. Not long"}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "after, Isla gave birth to her son, Harry"}, {"start": "02:02:00", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "Jerome Stevenson. Back in Bombay, John"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "Wils Booth wrote out a last will and"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "testament. He signed it, John Byron"}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:13", "text": "Wilks, and mailed it to the States. The"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "will was detailed. Money and property to"}, {"start": "02:02:13", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "his wife Isla, his daughter and son"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "Ogorita and Harry Jerome Stevenson. He"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "named Sarah Scott and Mary Louise Turner"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "as his other daughters by other women."}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "He left money for his personal valet"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "Henry Johnson and his wife Sarah who"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "looked after the children. Word of the"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "will spread. Ulissiz Sgrant himself"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "ordered an investigation to locate all"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:37", "text": "the heirs. Eventually, John Wils Booth's"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "estate was distributed exactly as the"}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "will instructed, but Grant never let it"}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "go. How could a man named John Byron"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "Wilks know every detail about Booth's"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "secret life, his lovers, his children,"}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:51", "text": "his financial affairs, information that"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "only Booth would know? But aside from"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "the will, Grant had no real evidence. He"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "was forced to let it go. So, the"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:03:01", "text": "official story was John Wils Booth was"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:04", "text": "killed on Garrett's farm in 1865."}, {"start": "02:03:01", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "But in the summer of 1872, someone saw a"}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "ghost in a dusty saloon in Texas. And"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "that ghost was pouring whiskey and"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "reciting Shakespeare."}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "The man behind the bar was John St."}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "Helen."}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "average height, lean build, dark hair,"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "going a little gray at the temples. He"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:36", "text": "quoted Shakespeare from memory, and when"}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "he thought nobody was looking, he"}, {"start": "02:03:36", "end": "02:03:40", "text": "practiced drawing a pistol from his"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "coat. St. Helen drifted into town in the"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:44", "text": "spring of 72. He said he was from back"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:47", "text": "east, but didn't talk much about his"}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "past. That suited everyone fine. Texas"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:52", "text": "in 1872 was full of men running from"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:54", "text": "something. After a few whisies, John St."}, {"start": "02:03:52", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "Helen would recite full Shakespearean"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:03:58", "text": "saliloquiz."}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:04:00", "text": "It was during one of these performances"}, {"start": "02:03:58", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "that finest Bates first walked into the"}, {"start": "02:04:00", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "bar. Bates was a young lawyer from"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "Memphis. Smart, ambitious, easy to talk"}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "to. The kind of man who bought drinks"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "for interesting strangers and listened"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "to their stories."}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:14", "text": "St. Helen and Bates hit it off"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "immediately. The bartender was well"}, {"start": "02:04:14", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "read, articulate, and had opinions about"}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "everything from politics to poetry. They"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "spent hours talking after the saloon"}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "closed, sharing whiskey and stories."}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "Well, Bates shared stories. St. Helen"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:29", "text": "mostly listened. They spoke about the"}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:32", "text": "war and the future of the country. St."}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "Helen never mentioned his past."}, {"start": "02:04:32", "end": "02:04:36", "text": "That winter, St. Helen caught pneumonia."}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "For days, he ran a high fever and"}, {"start": "02:04:36", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "drifted in and out of consciousness."}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "Bates sat by his bedside, convinced his"}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:44", "text": "friend was dying. On the third night,"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "St. Helen grabbed Bates by the wrist and"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "pulled him close. He was still running a"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "high fever, but his eyes were bright and"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "focused."}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:55", "text": ">> Finus, I need to tell you something"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "before it's too late. I'm not who you"}, {"start": "02:04:55", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "think I am. My real name is John Wilks"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "Booth."}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:06", "text": ">> Bates thought John was delirious, but he"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:08", "text": "wouldn't stop. He told Bates everything."}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:10", "text": "The conspiracy, the escape, the years in"}, {"start": "02:05:08", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "hiding. He described details that only"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:15", "text": "Booth would know. The layout of Ford's"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "Theater, the feeling of the wooden stage"}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "beneath his feet, the sound Lincoln made"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "when the bullet hit. Bates was stunned."}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:23", "text": "Either his friend was having the most"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "elaborate fever dream in history, or he"}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "was the most wanted man in America."}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "By morning, the fever had broken and"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "John St. Helen was going to live. And"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:34", "text": "that's when the panic set in. He said"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "too much."}, {"start": "02:05:34", "end": "02:05:40", "text": ">> What have I done?"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:42", "text": ">> 3 days later, he was gone. All that was"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:44", "text": "left of John St. Helen was an empty room"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:47", "text": "and a bartender's apron hanging on a"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "hook. John Wilk's booth had once again"}, {"start": "02:05:47", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "disappeared."}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:01", "text": "Bates didn't tell anyone about John's"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:04", "text": "confession, but he never stopped"}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "wondering. Was John St. Helen really"}, {"start": "02:06:04", "end": "02:06:09", "text": "John Wils Booth, or was that a sick"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "man's delusion? Well, in 1903, a painter"}, {"start": "02:06:09", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "in Oklahoma committed suicide. When they"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:15", "text": "searched the man's belongings, they"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:17", "text": "found a handwritten note. It said, \"If"}, {"start": "02:06:15", "end": "02:06:20", "text": "anything happens to him, contact a"}, {"start": "02:06:17", "end": "02:06:22", "text": "lawyer named Finest Bates.\" The telegram"}, {"start": "02:06:20", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "reached Bates 3 days later. After 26"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "years of questions, he was about to get"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "an answer. When Bates arrived at the"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "funeral parlor, his hands were shaking."}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "The undertaker led him to a back room"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "where a body lay on the table. He was"}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "told the man was David E. George. Bates"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "pulled back the sheet and stared for a"}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:41", "text": "long moment. The man on the table was"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "older and thinner, but it was"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:46", "text": "unmistakable. It was John going by the"}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "name David E. David E. George had been"}, {"start": "02:06:46", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "living there for several years working"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:54", "text": "as a painter. He was quiet. He kept to"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:56", "text": "himself. He was forgettable, but he had"}, {"start": "02:06:54", "end": "02:06:59", "text": "secrets. David E. George drank too much."}, {"start": "02:06:56", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "He talked to himself. Late at night,"}, {"start": "02:06:59", "end": "02:07:03", "text": "neighbors in the boarding house heard"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "him reciting Shakespeare. The landl,"}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:07", "text": "Mrs. Harper, said David George had been"}, {"start": "02:07:05", "end": "02:07:09", "text": "acting strange for weeks. He was nervous"}, {"start": "02:07:07", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "and paranoid. He kept saying they were"}, {"start": "02:07:09", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "coming for him. She thought he meant"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "bill collectors. On January 13th, 1903,"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "David bought a bottle of strick nine"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "from the pharmacy. He told the clerk"}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "that he had a rat problem. That night,"}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "he drank the poison."}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:25", "text": "He lived long enough to call for a"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "minister. The minister found David"}, {"start": "02:07:25", "end": "02:07:29", "text": "writhing on his bed, foam coming from"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "his mouth. The minister held his hand"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:34", "text": "when David made his confession. He"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:36", "text": "whispered that he was John Wils Booth,"}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "the man who killed Abraham Lincoln. He"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "begged God's forgiveness and then he was"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:43", "text": "gone. Among David's possessions were"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "newspaper clippings about Lincoln's"}, {"start": "02:07:43", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "assassination and the man hunt for"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:50", "text": "Booth. Some pages were yellow with age"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:53", "text": "there for decades. Bates was convinced"}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "this was John Wils Booth. He asked the"}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "local authorities to preserve his body."}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "If this really was Booth, then this was"}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "the most important corpse in American"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "history. The body was embalmed and put"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "on display. For months, crowds lined up"}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "to stare at the preserved remains of"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "David E. George, aka John St. Ellen aka"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "John Moes Booth. The mummy toured across"}, {"start": "02:08:11", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "the country. It appeared at carnivals,"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:19", "text": "state fairs, and local museums. Doctors"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "examined the body and found intriguing"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:23", "text": "details. The corpse had a broken left"}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:26", "text": "leg just like Booth, a deformed right"}, {"start": "02:08:23", "end": "02:08:27", "text": "thumb, also like Booth, and there was a"}, {"start": "02:08:26", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "scar on the back of the neck that"}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "matched the location of a scar Booth had"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:33", "text": "from a tumor removal. The mummy"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "eventually disappeared into storage and"}, {"start": "02:08:33", "end": "02:08:38", "text": "then into legend. But the story"}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:40", "text": "continued. John Wilm Booth had lived for"}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "38 years after supposedly dying at"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "Garrett's farm. So, how did Booth get"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "out of that burning barn? Well, he"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:51", "text": "didn't. The man who was shot on"}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:51", "text": "Garrett's farm was someone else."}, {"start": "02:08:59", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "When Union soldiers surrounded Garrett's"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "farm that night, they had orders capture"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:08", "text": "Booth alive. But Secretary of War Edwin"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:10", "text": "Stanton let it be known that if Booth"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:12", "text": "were found dead, the reward would still"}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:15", "text": "be paid. After Booth was killed, the"}, {"start": "02:09:12", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "military demanded an autopsy. The body"}, {"start": "02:09:15", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "was quickly wrapped in a horse blanket"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "and transported from a wagon to a steam"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:23", "text": "ship, then to a government tugboat, and"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "then finally to the USS Monttok at the"}, {"start": "02:09:23", "end": "02:09:29", "text": "Washington Navy Yard. The identification"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "was hasty, highly controlled, and deeply"}, {"start": "02:09:29", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "suspicious."}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "Surgeon General Joseph K. Barnes"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:37", "text": "conducted the autopsy. A photograph was"}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:39", "text": "taken of the body, but it's never been"}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:41", "text": "released to the public. This was"}, {"start": "02:09:39", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "probably the most important autopsy in"}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:44", "text": "US history to that point, but the"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "photograph has either been lost or"}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "suppressed."}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:50", "text": "Dr. Barnes allowed three civilians"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "aboard. None of the three knew Booth"}, {"start": "02:09:50", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "personally. Booth had friends all over"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "Washington, actors, politicians,"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:10:00", "text": "socialites. Barnes didn't call any of"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "them. Instead, he called Dr. John"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "Frederick May. May had removed the"}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:05", "text": "growth from Booth's neck a few years"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:07", "text": "earlier. He was brought to verify the"}, {"start": "02:10:05", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "scar."}, {"start": "02:10:07", "end": "02:10:11", "text": "May examined the body and hesitated. In"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:13", "text": "his memoirs, he wrote that he didn't"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:16", "text": "recognize it as Booth's. He wasn't sure"}, {"start": "02:10:13", "end": "02:10:18", "text": "about the scar. He noticed that the body"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:20", "text": "had an injured right leg, but Booth"}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:22", "text": "fractured his left leg. Now, maybe the"}, {"start": "02:10:20", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "witnesses got that wrong, but the injury"}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:27", "text": "on the corpse was old. Booths wasn't. He"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "broke it less than 2 weeks before. And"}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "despite his protests, Dr. May was"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "pressured into signing off that this was"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:35", "text": "John Wils booth. Other witnesses raised"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "doubts. The man had the wrong"}, {"start": "02:10:35", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "proportions, the wrong bone structure."}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:43", "text": "The body was buried quickly in secret"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:45", "text": "beneath the floor of a military prison."}, {"start": "02:10:43", "end": "02:10:47", "text": "Booth's family begged to see the remains"}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "they were denied. If this wasn't John"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "Wils Booth, then who did the soldiers"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "drag out of that barn? Well, they asked"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "David Harold and he told them."}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:08", "text": "David Herald came out of the tobacco"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:11", "text": "barn with his hands up. The first thing"}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:13", "text": "he said was, \"Don't shoot.\" Then he"}, {"start": "02:11:11", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "said, \"That's not Booth in there.\" Then"}, {"start": "02:11:13", "end": "02:11:19", "text": "Harold named the man James William Boyd."}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "The soldiers ignored him."}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "Boyd was an ex-confederate soldier. the"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "same build as Booth, same complexion,"}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:27", "text": "and coincidentally the same initials."}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:29", "text": "Harold said Booth was a day ahead of"}, {"start": "02:11:27", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "them in Harper's Ferry. The plan was to"}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "catch up, and Boyd would help them sail"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "across the PTOIC. But Boyd was a double"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:39", "text": "agent. He was just released from prison"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:41", "text": "by Stanton personally, and there was a"}, {"start": "02:11:39", "end": "02:11:43", "text": "reason for that. Stanton and Booth had a"}, {"start": "02:11:41", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "deal. Booth would be allowed to escape"}, {"start": "02:11:43", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "to India with his wife. Boyd would stand"}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:50", "text": "in and take the fall. So Boyd and Booth"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:53", "text": "swapped coats, but Booth forgot to take"}, {"start": "02:11:50", "end": "02:11:55", "text": "his diary, which revealed everything."}, {"start": "02:11:53", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "Names, meetings, payments, all pointing"}, {"start": "02:11:55", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "back to Edwin Stanton. When Stanton"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "received the diary, he destroyed it. He"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "destroyed all the evidence and created"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "the official story that Americans"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "believed for 150 years."}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:11", "text": "John Wils Booth walked away from"}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:14", "text": "Garrett's farm. He sailed to India as"}, {"start": "02:12:11", "end": "02:12:16", "text": "John Byron Wilks. He returned to America"}, {"start": "02:12:14", "end": "02:12:19", "text": "as John St. Helen and died in Oklahoma"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "as David E. George."}, {"start": "02:12:19", "end": "02:12:23", "text": "Three vertebrae were removed from the"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "body during the autopsy. A DNA test"}, {"start": "02:12:23", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "could prove or disprove that the bones"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:29", "text": "came from Booth. No testing has been"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:32", "text": "allowed. His body is allegedly buried in"}, {"start": "02:12:29", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "the Booth family plot in Baltimore. And"}, {"start": "02:12:32", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "now people leave pennies on the"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:37", "text": "gravestone they believe to be John Wils"}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "Booths as if giving Lincoln the last"}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:41", "text": "word. And the family has requested that"}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:43", "text": "the body be exumed for testing. That"}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "request was denied. Nobody even knows"}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "where in the cemetery he's buried. His"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "brother Edwin didn't mark the grave out"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:51", "text": "of fear it would be vandalized. And John"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:53", "text": "Books Booth has a lot of descendants"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:55", "text": "alive today all through his marriage to"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:57", "text": "Isola. History says Booth didn't have"}, {"start": "02:12:55", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "children, but his descendants believe"}, {"start": "02:12:57", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "that he did. And as far as they're"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "concerned, they're living proof."}, {"start": "02:13:08", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "I'm a big fan of American history. If"}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:14", "text": "you made it this far, you are, too. And"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "this story was fun, but if Booth"}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:20", "text": "escaped, we have to rewrite history. So,"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "did he? Well, let's pull it apart. Dr."}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "John Frederick May identified Booth's"}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:25", "text": "body. It's true that he said he didn't"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "recognize it at first, but that was"}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "because it was badly decomposed. When he"}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:31", "text": "saw the surgical scar, he was convinced"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "it was Booth. He would know he performed"}, {"start": "02:13:31", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "the surgery. And multiple witnesses"}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "confirmed the body's identity. The"}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "broken leg was also confirmed. Now, John"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "Wooks Booth did keep a diary, and it was"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:44", "text": "tampered with. that's documented. But he"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:46", "text": "didn't use his diary as a journal. It"}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "was more like a day planner. The missing"}, {"start": "02:13:46", "end": "02:13:50", "text": "pages may contain incriminating"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:53", "text": "evidence, but probably not. Still,"}, {"start": "02:13:50", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "nobody knows for sure."}, {"start": "02:13:53", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "James William Boyd was a real person. He"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:13:59", "text": "was a Confederate captain and prisoner"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:01", "text": "of war, and Secretary of War Edwin"}, {"start": "02:13:59", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "Stanton authorized his release. That's"}, {"start": "02:14:01", "end": "02:14:06", "text": "true. But this wasn't unusual. Boyd had"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:08", "text": "seven children. His wife had died and"}, {"start": "02:14:06", "end": "02:14:10", "text": "they would starve without him. He"}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "requested compassionate release and"}, {"start": "02:14:10", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "Stanton granted it. The story of Boyd"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "being a double agent comes from Finest"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:18", "text": "Bates. The man who discovered John St."}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "Helen wasn't just a lawyer. He was also"}, {"start": "02:14:18", "end": "02:14:24", "text": "an entrepreneur. In 1907, 30 years after"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "his supposed encounter in Texas, Bates"}, {"start": "02:14:24", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "published a book, The Escape and Suicide"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:29", "text": "of John Wils Booth."}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:32", "text": ">> There's always a book."}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:33", "text": ">> Oh, now you're here. Why so quiet?"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:35", "text": ">> Well, dead presidents are only funny"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:37", "text": "when they're in my wallet."}, {"start": "02:14:35", "end": "02:14:40", "text": ">> Fair enough. The book was a hit and made"}, {"start": "02:14:37", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "Bates famous. More importantly, it made"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "Bates money."}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "Bates went on speaking tours. He brought"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "the mummy with him. He charged"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:49", "text": "admission. The man who claimed his"}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:51", "text": "friend had confessed to being Lincoln's"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:53", "text": "assassin built an entire career on that"}, {"start": "02:14:51", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "story. But here's what Bates never"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "mentioned. When experts studied the"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:59", "text": "handwriting samples he claimed came from"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "John St. Helen, they didn't match John"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "Wils Booth's confirmed writing. Not even"}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "close. They were from different people."}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "The Isla story that came from a 1937"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:11", "text": "book called This One Mad Act written by"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:13", "text": "Isla Forester. Forester claimed to be"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:15", "text": "Ogorita's daughter, the granddaughter of"}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:17", "text": "Booth and Isla Mills."}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "And just a few years ago, the"}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "descendants of both Ogorita and Harry"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "Jerome Stevenson had their DNA compared"}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "against confirmed Booth family DNA. No"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:28", "text": "match. Neither family was related to"}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "John Brooks Booth."}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:32", "text": ">> I love it when paternity tests come back"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "negative. So Booth never married and"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:36", "text": "didn't have children, at least none that"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:38", "text": "we found so far. And remember, when he"}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "killed Lincoln, he was only 26."}, {"start": "02:15:38", "end": "02:15:43", "text": ">> If I was a 26-year-old movie star with"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:44", "text": "ladies grabbing at my gills, I'd stay"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "single, too."}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:49", "text": ">> The entire romantic subplot was fiction,"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "just like Booth's Will. Most of the"}, {"start": "02:15:49", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "story elements come from a 1977 book and"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:55", "text": "movie called The Lincoln Conspiracy. And"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:57", "text": "this wasn't a historical research"}, {"start": "02:15:55", "end": "02:15:59", "text": "project. It was entertainment. The"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:01", "text": "authors even admitted they created"}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:03", "text": "composite characters and invented"}, {"start": "02:16:01", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "dialogue to make the story more"}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "dramatic. It was fiction."}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:08", "text": ">> Uh, don't you do that."}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:10", "text": ">> Quiet. The Lincoln conspiracy was"}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:12", "text": "fiction, but people treated it like"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "fact. The book recycled Bates's debunked"}, {"start": "02:16:12", "end": "02:16:16", "text": "claims and added new ones. The body"}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:18", "text": "double theory, the government cover up,"}, {"start": "02:16:16", "end": "02:16:21", "text": "the missing diary pages that implicate"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:23", "text": "Stanton. And speaking of Stanton, let's"}, {"start": "02:16:21", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "clear his name. Edwin Stanton was a"}, {"start": "02:16:23", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "villain in the story, but he was just as"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:28", "text": "interested in helping freed slaves as"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "Lincoln. He definitely thought Lincoln"}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:32", "text": "was too lenient on the South, but he was"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:34", "text": "much closer to Lincoln's idea of"}, {"start": "02:16:32", "end": "02:16:36", "text": "reconstruction than Andrew Johnson, a"}, {"start": "02:16:34", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "self-described racist. Johnson's"}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:40", "text": "leniency toward the South led directly"}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:43", "text": "to the Jim Crow era, and those are"}, {"start": "02:16:40", "end": "02:16:44", "text": "wounds that still haven't healed."}, {"start": "02:16:43", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "But the most damning evidence against"}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:49", "text": "the escape theory isn't what's missing,"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:51", "text": "it's what's there. the detailed"}, {"start": "02:16:49", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "day-by-day record of Booth's movements"}, {"start": "02:16:51", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "during his 12 days as a fugitive. There"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "were multiple witnesses at every stop,"}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "Confederate sympathizers who helped him,"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:02", "text": "Union soldiers who pursued him. You"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:02", "text": "can't fake that kind of evidence."}, {"start": "02:17:02", "end": "02:17:04", "text": ">> You can't."}, {"start": "02:17:02", "end": "02:17:06", "text": ">> If you can fake a moon landing, you can"}, {"start": "02:17:04", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "fake this."}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:10", "text": ">> Now, I think John Wils Booth died on"}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:11", "text": "Garrett's farm. But many people,"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "including some of Booth's alleged"}, {"start": "02:17:11", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "descendants, believe he got away."}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:19", "text": "There's a reason stories like this"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "capture our attention. They let us"}, {"start": "02:17:19", "end": "02:17:24", "text": "reimagine history. Everybody likes to"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:26", "text": "play what if. What if John Wils Booth"}, {"start": "02:17:24", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "got away? That's a fascinating and fun"}, {"start": "02:17:26", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "question. A more interesting question is"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "what if Lincoln wasn't killed? What if"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:35", "text": "he were able to serve out the almost 4"}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:38", "text": "years left in his second term? What if"}, {"start": "02:17:35", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "Lincoln oversaw reconstruction? What if"}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "Andrew Johnson, who owned slaves before"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "the war, never became president? Would"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:48", "text": "Lincoln have allowed the KKK to form in"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:51", "text": "1866? Probably not. But Johnson did."}, {"start": "02:17:48", "end": "02:17:53", "text": "Johnson vetoed almost every civil rights"}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "bill that came across his desk. He has"}, {"start": "02:17:53", "end": "02:17:56", "text": "the dishonor of being the first"}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "president ever to be impeached."}, {"start": "02:17:56", "end": "02:17:58", "text": ">> Oh, back when impeaching a president"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:01", "text": "meant something."}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:03", "text": ">> Yep. If Lincoln lived, I suspect we'd be"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:05", "text": "living in a very different country, a"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "better country, a more just and united"}, {"start": "02:18:05", "end": "02:18:10", "text": "country. And John Wils Booth took that"}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:13", "text": "from us, from all of us, black and"}, {"start": "02:18:10", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "white. 150 years later, his actions are"}, {"start": "02:18:13", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "still felt today. Now, I enjoyed this"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:21", "text": "mystery, but I will not celebrate the"}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "man. Whether shot to death in a barn or"}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:25", "text": "mummified, humiliated, and turned into a"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:26", "text": "sideshow exhibit, either is a fitting"}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:29", "text": "end for one of the most despicable"}, {"start": "02:18:26", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "villains in American history, there's"}, {"start": "02:18:29", "end": "02:18:33", "text": "only one thing I can tell you for sure"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "about this story. If there's a hell,"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "John Wilks Booth is in it."}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:47", "text": "Boom. Shaka Laka. Okay, Eric picked the"}, {"start": "02:18:45", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "next episode. Eric runs the merch store"}, {"start": "02:18:47", "end": "02:18:53", "text": "and does all kinds of stuff around here."}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "I swear that guy never sleeps. Speaking"}, {"start": "02:18:53", "end": "02:18:58", "text": "of merch, go to shop.wyfiles.com"}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "for Yfiles t-shirts, fistable coffee"}, {"start": "02:18:58", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "mugs, and all kinds of sweet swag. We've"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "got a big Black Friday sale going, by"}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:09", "text": "the way. Beaver merch. For his episode,"}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "Eric picked simulation theory. Do you"}, {"start": "02:19:09", "end": "02:19:14", "text": "ever think we're in a simulation? I sure"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "do."}, {"start": "02:19:14", "end": "02:19:18", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "Is this reality? Well, we're"}, {"start": "02:19:18", "end": "02:19:22", "text": "experiencing something right now. So"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "maybe the better question is, what is"}, {"start": "02:19:22", "end": "02:19:26", "text": "reality? Could everything we see,"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:29", "text": "everything we experience, everything"}, {"start": "02:19:26", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "that exists in our entire universe be"}, {"start": "02:19:29", "end": "02:19:33", "text": "artificial? Supporters of simulation"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "theory believe that not only is it"}, {"start": "02:19:33", "end": "02:19:37", "text": "possible that we're living in a"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "simulation, it's likely. And the more we"}, {"start": "02:19:37", "end": "02:19:43", "text": "look for evidence, the more we find."}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:43", "text": "Let's find out why."}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "The idea of the universe being a"}, {"start": "02:19:48", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "simulation is not a new one. Theories"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "exist in ancient cultures around the"}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:56", "text": "world. Modern simulation theory comes"}, {"start": "02:19:54", "end": "02:19:58", "text": "from Nick Bostonramm, a philosopher at"}, {"start": "02:19:56", "end": "02:20:01", "text": "Oxford who wrote an influential paper on"}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "the subject in 2003. Assuming that"}, {"start": "02:20:01", "end": "02:20:04", "text": "living in a simulation is possible,"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "Bostonramm presents the simulation"}, {"start": "02:20:04", "end": "02:20:09", "text": "trillemma, which says one of the"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:11", "text": "following must be true. One, we destroy"}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "ourselves before we're able to create a"}, {"start": "02:20:11", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "simulation. Two, we're able to create a"}, {"start": "02:20:13", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "simulation but choose not to. Or three,"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:20", "text": "we are definitely in a simulation."}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "Boston believes each of these is equally"}, {"start": "02:20:20", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "likely to be true. Now, I don't think"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "that's controversial. We use computer"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "models to study the human population,"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:30", "text": "predict the weather for entertainment."}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "Uh we simulate everything. And when a"}, {"start": "02:20:30", "end": "02:20:34", "text": "civilization can create a realistic"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "simulation, the most obvious one to"}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "create is that of its own early"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "existence. Boston calls this an"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:42", "text": "ancestral simulation. And a civilization"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "that can do this wouldn't just create"}, {"start": "02:20:42", "end": "02:20:47", "text": "one simulation. It would create many."}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "And those simulated civilizations might"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "create their own simulations of the"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:53", "text": "universe. and on and on like Russian"}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:54", "text": "nesting dolls of reality."}, {"start": "02:20:53", "end": "02:20:56", "text": ">> Now you're a character in that world and"}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "you think you have free will and you say"}, {"start": "02:20:56", "end": "02:21:00", "text": "I want to invent a computer. So you do."}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:01", "text": "Hey, I want to create a world in my"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:03", "text": "computer"}, {"start": "02:21:01", "end": "02:21:05", "text": "and then that world creates a world in"}, {"start": "02:21:03", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "its computer and then you have"}, {"start": "02:21:05", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "simulations all the way down."}, {"start": "02:21:07", "end": "02:21:11", "text": ">> When Elon Musk was asked what he thought"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:13", "text": "the chances were that our reality is the"}, {"start": "02:21:11", "end": "02:21:15", "text": "original base reality,"}, {"start": "02:21:13", "end": "02:21:17", "text": ">> the odds that we're in base reality is"}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:19", "text": "one in billions."}, {"start": "02:21:17", "end": "02:21:21", "text": "Neil deGrasse Tyson is a little more"}, {"start": "02:21:19", "end": "02:21:24", "text": "conservative. He thinks the odds that we"}, {"start": "02:21:21", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "are in base reality versus a simulated"}, {"start": "02:21:24", "end": "02:21:29", "text": "reality is 50/50. A 50/50 chance that"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:31", "text": "everything we experience is artificial,"}, {"start": "02:21:29", "end": "02:21:33", "text": "that's still pretty high. And even"}, {"start": "02:21:31", "end": "02:21:35", "text": "though we mostly hear what scientists"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "think about this, it's not scientific"}, {"start": "02:21:35", "end": "02:21:40", "text": "theory. Simulation theory isn't math,"}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:42", "text": "it's philosophy. It isn't physics, it's"}, {"start": "02:21:40", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "metaphysics. So what we need is hard"}, {"start": "02:21:42", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "evidence that we live in a simulation."}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "And to find proof, all you have to do is"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "look."}, {"start": "02:21:55", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "Let's start at the beginning. There was"}, {"start": "02:21:57", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "no space or time. The contents of the"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:04", "text": "entire universe were concentrated to the"}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "size of a tennis ball and had a"}, {"start": "02:22:04", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "temperature of a quadrillion degrees."}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:10", "text": "Then suddenly the big bang. Everything"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "explodes outward faster than the speed"}, {"start": "02:22:10", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "of light. Then about 14 billion years"}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:18", "text": "later, we've got galaxies and planets"}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:19", "text": "and ice cream and K-pop."}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:21", "text": ">> Ice cream."}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:24", "text": ">> Yeah, I could do without the K-pop."}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:26", "text": ">> Me, too. Okay. If before the Big Bang,"}, {"start": "02:22:24", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "there was no space and no time, what was"}, {"start": "02:22:26", "end": "02:22:29", "text": "there? What about the beginning of the"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:32", "text": "universe from the religious point of"}, {"start": "02:22:29", "end": "02:22:34", "text": "view? God created everything. Fine."}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:36", "text": "Where was he before? What caused the Big"}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "Bang to happen in the first place? or"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:40", "text": "what made God decide to snap his fingers"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "or wiggle his nose or whatever he did to"}, {"start": "02:22:40", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "make everything happen. If you ask a"}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "physicist to explain what existed before"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:48", "text": "the universe, they'll give you an answer"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "about quantum foam, dark energy, or"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:52", "text": "something just as bonkers as the Big"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "Bang. Ask a theologian what existed"}, {"start": "02:22:52", "end": "02:22:55", "text": "before God created the universe, and"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "you'll get an answer equally as"}, {"start": "02:22:55", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "confusing. But what does make sense is"}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:03", "text": "that the universe was just sitting there"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "dormant. Then someone somewhere decided"}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "to boot up a program. And in that"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "program, our program are all the laws of"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "the universe. Electromagnetism and"}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:14", "text": "gravitational force are written into the"}, {"start": "02:23:12", "end": "02:23:16", "text": "program. The speed of light gets a"}, {"start": "02:23:14", "end": "02:23:18", "text": "value. There's code for plank's"}, {"start": "02:23:16", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "constants of mass, speed, and time."}, {"start": "02:23:18", "end": "02:23:22", "text": "Avagadro's numbers in there along with a"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:25", "text": "bunch of other rules that govern the"}, {"start": "02:23:22", "end": "02:23:27", "text": "behavior of everything that exists. All"}, {"start": "02:23:25", "end": "02:23:30", "text": "part of our program. Even consciousness"}, {"start": "02:23:27", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "itself is part of our simulation. If"}, {"start": "02:23:30", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "you've never heard of simulation theory,"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "then this might sound far-fetched. But"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:38", "text": "some of the world's most respected"}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:40", "text": "scientists, technologists, and"}, {"start": "02:23:38", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "philosophers believe that it is more"}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:45", "text": "likely than not that we are living in an"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "artificial reality. So, how do we prove"}, {"start": "02:23:45", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:23:58", "text": "If we live in an artificial reality, it"}, {"start": "02:23:56", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "would make sense for there to be"}, {"start": "02:23:58", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "occasional glitches. Philip K. Dick is"}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:03", "text": "one of the most influential science"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:05", "text": "fiction writers of all time. Movies"}, {"start": "02:24:03", "end": "02:24:08", "text": "based on his books include Bladeunner,"}, {"start": "02:24:05", "end": "02:24:10", "text": "Total Recall, Minority Report, The"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "Adjustment Bureau, and plenty of others."}, {"start": "02:24:10", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "He believed there are many universes,"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "and sometimes those other realities"}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:18", "text": "bleed into ours. He claimed to have"}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "visions of this, and even wrote stories"}, {"start": "02:24:18", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "like The Man in the High Castle based on"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:26", "text": "these visions. that in fact plural"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:28", "text": "realities did exist superimposed onto"}, {"start": "02:24:26", "end": "02:24:29", "text": "one another by so many film"}, {"start": "02:24:28", "end": "02:24:32", "text": "transparencies."}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:34", "text": ">> One way other realities blend into ours"}, {"start": "02:24:32", "end": "02:24:36", "text": "could be the Mandela effect. The Mandela"}, {"start": "02:24:34", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "effect is when a large number of people"}, {"start": "02:24:36", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "have memories of events that don't match"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:41", "text": "reality. This is called the Mandela"}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:43", "text": "effect because millions of people"}, {"start": "02:24:41", "end": "02:24:46", "text": "specifically remember Nelson Mandela"}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:48", "text": "died in prison. He didn't. People"}, {"start": "02:24:46", "end": "02:24:50", "text": "remember his wife walking beside his"}, {"start": "02:24:48", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "casket in a funeral procession that was"}, {"start": "02:24:50", "end": "02:24:54", "text": "on television for two hours that day."}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:56", "text": "This never happened. Or the Baron Stain"}, {"start": "02:24:54", "end": "02:24:59", "text": "Bears, which people insist were always"}, {"start": "02:24:56", "end": "02:25:01", "text": "called the Baronstein Bears. People"}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "remember the tycoon from Monopoly having"}, {"start": "02:25:01", "end": "02:25:05", "text": "a monle that he never had. What was"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "Darth Vader famous for saying?"}, {"start": "02:25:05", "end": "02:25:09", "text": ">> Luke, I am your father."}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:09", "text": ">> Nope, he never said that."}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:12", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:13", "text": ">> What about Stoofer's stove top stuffing?"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:15", "text": ">> Best part of Thanksgiving?"}, {"start": "02:25:13", "end": "02:25:17", "text": ">> No, it isn't. Because there's no such"}, {"start": "02:25:15", "end": "02:25:19", "text": "product. Stove top is made by craft."}, {"start": "02:25:17", "end": "02:25:20", "text": ">> Uh, no."}, {"start": "02:25:19", "end": "02:25:22", "text": ">> The evil queen from Snow White who"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "looked into her mirror and said,"}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:26", "text": ">> \"Mirror, mirror on the wall.\""}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:29", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:32", "text": ">> Magic mirror on the wall. Who is the"}, {"start": "02:25:29", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "fairest one of all?"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:36", "text": ">> My reality is shattered."}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:39", "text": ">> People remember Freze being spelled with"}, {"start": "02:25:36", "end": "02:25:41", "text": "two e. People remember Jiffy peanut"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:43", "text": "butter, but there's no such thing. And"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:45", "text": "there are a lot more. A lot more."}, {"start": "02:25:43", "end": "02:25:47", "text": "Personally, I don't have most of these"}, {"start": "02:25:45", "end": "02:25:50", "text": "false memories, but there are a few that"}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:52", "text": "get me. The Flintstones. There are two"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:25:54", "text": "T's in the Flintstones. I remember just"}, {"start": "02:25:52", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "one. And what about the Fruit of the"}, {"start": "02:25:54", "end": "02:25:59", "text": "Loom logo? I could swear it looks like"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "this, but it doesn't. This is the actual"}, {"start": "02:25:59", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "logo. No cornucopia."}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:03", "text": ">> Corna what now?"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:05", "text": ">> Basket."}, {"start": "02:26:03", "end": "02:26:05", "text": ">> Didn't you say basket for crying out"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:07", "text": "loud?"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:09", "text": ">> And at the end of Moonrakaker, a"}, {"start": "02:26:07", "end": "02:26:11", "text": "terrible but excellent James Bond movie,"}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "I remember Jaw's girlfriend is having"}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "braces. I mean, I specifically remember"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "it. She didn't have braces."}, {"start": "02:26:23", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "I just can't get my brain to accept it."}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:30", "text": "That's the Mandela effect. So, why do"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:31", "text": "millions of people distinctly remember"}, {"start": "02:26:30", "end": "02:26:32", "text": "different things?"}, {"start": "02:26:31", "end": "02:26:35", "text": ">> Glitch in a simulation."}, {"start": "02:26:32", "end": "02:26:37", "text": ">> Yep. Philip K. Dick also felt when we"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "experienced deja vu is because something"}, {"start": "02:26:37", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "in our simulated universe changed and a"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:43", "text": "new timeline branched off of the current"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:46", "text": "one."}, {"start": "02:26:43", "end": "02:26:49", "text": ">> We are living in a computer programmed"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "reality and the only clue we have to it"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:53", "text": "is when some variable is changed."}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:55", "text": ">> Ever feel like you've lived a moment"}, {"start": "02:26:53", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "before? That's because according to"}, {"start": "02:26:55", "end": "02:27:00", "text": "Philip Kadik and others, you have. Dja"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "Vu is the simulation correcting itself"}, {"start": "02:27:00", "end": "02:27:05", "text": "with new information. But skeptics can"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:07", "text": "easily dismiss these theories. The human"}, {"start": "02:27:05", "end": "02:27:10", "text": "mind is terribly unreliable. They don't"}, {"start": "02:27:07", "end": "02:27:13", "text": "accept this as evidence. But we're not"}, {"start": "02:27:10", "end": "02:27:13", "text": "done yet."}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:25", "text": "We live in a huge universe, 200 billion"}, {"start": "02:27:23", "end": "02:27:27", "text": "trillion stars. And even if life is"}, {"start": "02:27:25", "end": "02:27:29", "text": "rare, you'd think there'd be some"}, {"start": "02:27:27", "end": "02:27:31", "text": "evidence of it somewhere. This is Ferm's"}, {"start": "02:27:29", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "paradox. But according to the Drake"}, {"start": "02:27:31", "end": "02:27:35", "text": "equation, there should be over a million"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:38", "text": "technologically advanced civilizations"}, {"start": "02:27:35", "end": "02:27:39", "text": "just in our galaxy. And on average, the"}, {"start": "02:27:38", "end": "02:27:41", "text": "nearest one should be just a few hundred"}, {"start": "02:27:39", "end": "02:27:44", "text": "lighty years away. But there's nothing,"}, {"start": "02:27:41", "end": "02:27:46", "text": "at least not that we can see. So where"}, {"start": "02:27:44", "end": "02:27:49", "text": "is everybody? Are we really alone in the"}, {"start": "02:27:46", "end": "02:27:51", "text": "universe? Or does our program only focus"}, {"start": "02:27:49", "end": "02:27:53", "text": "on us? And what about the physical rules"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:55", "text": "that are in place? Max Tegmark, a"}, {"start": "02:27:53", "end": "02:27:58", "text": "cosmologist at MIT, said, \"The strict"}, {"start": "02:27:55", "end": "02:28:00", "text": "laws of physics point to the possibility"}, {"start": "02:27:58", "end": "02:28:01", "text": "of a simulation. Putting a cap on the"}, {"start": "02:28:00", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "speed of light sure is a good way to"}, {"start": "02:28:01", "end": "02:28:05", "text": "keep your Sims from venturing out too"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:07", "text": "far from home.\" Theoretical physicist"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:09", "text": "James Gates thought simulation theory"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "was crazy. Then he started studying"}, {"start": "02:28:09", "end": "02:28:14", "text": "quarks and electrons. He found error"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "correcting code buried deep inside the"}, {"start": "02:28:14", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "equations used to describe string"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "theory. So you're saying as you dig"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "deeper,"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:27", "text": "you find"}, {"start": "02:28:23", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "computer code written in the fabric of"}, {"start": "02:28:27", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "the cosmos into the equations that we"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "want to use to describe the cosmos. Yes,"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:38", "text": "computer code. Computer code. Strings of"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:40", "text": "bits of ones and zeros."}, {"start": "02:28:38", "end": "02:28:43", "text": ">> Dr. Gates has changed his mind about"}, {"start": "02:28:40", "end": "02:28:44", "text": "simulation theory. In 2017, a group of"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:46", "text": "scientists at the University of"}, {"start": "02:28:44", "end": "02:28:49", "text": "Washington proved they can embed"}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:51", "text": "computer code into strands of DNA."}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:53", "text": "Everything in nature is math. Look at"}, {"start": "02:28:51", "end": "02:28:54", "text": "the Fibonacci sequence. You get the"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "Fibonacci sequence by adding two"}, {"start": "02:28:54", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "previous numbers in the sequence"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:29:05", "text": "together. So 1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 1 = 3, 3 + 2"}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:07", "text": "= 5, 5 + 3 = 8, and so on forever. You"}, {"start": "02:29:05", "end": "02:29:10", "text": "get the golden ratio, also called fee,"}, {"start": "02:29:07", "end": "02:29:12", "text": "by dividing two consecutive Fibonacci"}, {"start": "02:29:10", "end": "02:29:14", "text": "numbers. So the number 89 is a Fibonacci"}, {"start": "02:29:12", "end": "02:29:18", "text": "number. The next number in the sequence"}, {"start": "02:29:14", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "after 89 is 144. 144 divided by 89 is"}, {"start": "02:29:18", "end": "02:29:23", "text": "the golden ratio. It's about 1.618. We"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:25", "text": "see Fibonacci numbers and the golden"}, {"start": "02:29:23", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "ratio everywhere. The number of petals"}, {"start": "02:29:25", "end": "02:29:29", "text": "on a flower is usually a Fibonacci"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:32", "text": "number. Liies have three petals."}, {"start": "02:29:29", "end": "02:29:35", "text": "Buttercups have five, chory has 21, and"}, {"start": "02:29:32", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "a daisy has 34. And the spacing of each"}, {"start": "02:29:35", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "petal is arranged in a circle according"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "to the golden ratio. As trees grow, the"}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "number of branches they form is a"}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "Fibonacci number. And not just plants,"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "animals, too. The ratio of female to"}, {"start": "02:29:47", "end": "02:29:53", "text": "male honeybees in a colony is the golden"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:55", "text": "ratio, 1.618. The human body conforms to"}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "the golden ratio, too. Most of the body"}, {"start": "02:29:55", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "follows the numbers 1 2 3 and 5. One"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "nose, two eyes, three limb segments,"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:04", "text": "five fingers, five toes. The proportions"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:06", "text": "of the body like the length of your"}, {"start": "02:30:04", "end": "02:30:08", "text": "shoulder to your elbow and from your"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "elbow to your fingertips. That's the"}, {"start": "02:30:08", "end": "02:30:13", "text": "golden ratio. Even a DNA molecule"}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "measures 34 anstroms long by 21 anstroms"}, {"start": "02:30:13", "end": "02:30:18", "text": "wide. Fibonacci numbers and the golden"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:20", "text": "ratio. From the spiral of sea shells to"}, {"start": "02:30:18", "end": "02:30:22", "text": "the spiral of a galaxy and everything in"}, {"start": "02:30:20", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "between, Fibonacci numbers are"}, {"start": "02:30:22", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "everywhere. Now, some claim this is a"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:28", "text": "coincidence that humans look for"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:29", "text": "patterns in chaos because that's what"}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:32", "text": "we're programmed to do."}, {"start": "02:30:29", "end": "02:30:33", "text": ">> What we're programmed to do. And isn't"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:36", "text": "that interesting? By trying to debunk"}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "simulation theory, they actually end up"}, {"start": "02:30:36", "end": "02:30:39", "text": "proving it. No matter what we study,"}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "whether it's something the size of a"}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:43", "text": "galaxy or as small as an electron,"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:45", "text": "everything in the universe seems to"}, {"start": "02:30:43", "end": "02:30:49", "text": "follow patterns and rules. In other"}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:49", "text": "words, a program."}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:58", "text": "To simulate an entire universe, you'd"}, {"start": "02:30:56", "end": "02:31:00", "text": "obviously need more advanced technology"}, {"start": "02:30:58", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "than we have. But that doesn't mean we"}, {"start": "02:31:00", "end": "02:31:05", "text": "won't get there. Moore's law says that"}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "computing power doubles every 18 months."}, {"start": "02:31:05", "end": "02:31:09", "text": "And this has held true for about 50"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:10", "text": "years now. That is slowing down a little"}, {"start": "02:31:09", "end": "02:31:13", "text": "bit, but only because of physical"}, {"start": "02:31:10", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "limitations. Assuming we can learn to"}, {"start": "02:31:13", "end": "02:31:16", "text": "make microchips smaller, and there's no"}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:19", "text": "doubt that we will. It's predicted that"}, {"start": "02:31:16", "end": "02:31:20", "text": "artificial intelligence could surpass"}, {"start": "02:31:19", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "human intelligence within the next 100"}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:25", "text": "years. As Elon Musk points out, when he"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "was a kid, the world's most advanced"}, {"start": "02:31:25", "end": "02:31:30", "text": "video game was Pong, two rectangles on a"}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "screen. 40 years later, video game"}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:34", "text": "technology is barely distinguishable"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "from reality. He said that 6 years ago."}, {"start": "02:31:34", "end": "02:31:39", "text": "And even in that short time, video game"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:41", "text": "engines have become even more realistic."}, {"start": "02:31:39", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "Look at this footage from Unreal Engine"}, {"start": "02:31:41", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "5."}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:48", "text": ">> When a world we can build feels as real"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "as our own,"}, {"start": "02:31:55", "end": "02:31:58", "text": "what just happened? Imagine what games"}, {"start": "02:31:57", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "are going to look like in the next 6"}, {"start": "02:31:58", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "years or the next 60 or the next 6,000"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:07", "text": "but simulating an entire universe. How"}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:09", "text": "big of a computer will we need? Well,"}, {"start": "02:32:07", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "it's estimated that there are 10 to the"}, {"start": "02:32:09", "end": "02:32:13", "text": "power of 80 atoms in the universe. Let"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:15", "text": "me put that on the screen just for fun."}, {"start": "02:32:13", "end": "02:32:18", "text": "Okay, that that's a lot. If each"}, {"start": "02:32:15", "end": "02:32:20", "text": "particle needs 128 bits to calculate its"}, {"start": "02:32:18", "end": "02:32:23", "text": "position and momentum, you're at 10 the"}, {"start": "02:32:20", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "power of 83 bits. And that's just for"}, {"start": "02:32:23", "end": "02:32:26", "text": "data storage. We also need computing"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:28", "text": "power to track what each of those"}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "particles is doing. If we say two"}, {"start": "02:32:28", "end": "02:32:33", "text": "floatingoint operations per second or"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:36", "text": "two flops per particle, we're at 2 * 10"}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "to the 80th power flops. There aren't"}, {"start": "02:32:36", "end": "02:32:40", "text": "even words for these numbers. And this"}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:42", "text": "is the computing power for just the"}, {"start": "02:32:40", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "stuff in the universe. What about human"}, {"start": "02:32:42", "end": "02:32:46", "text": "intelligence? The human brain can"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:49", "text": "perform 100 trillion calculations per"}, {"start": "02:32:46", "end": "02:32:51", "text": "second or 100 teraflops multiplied by"}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:54", "text": "billions of people. The numbers are"}, {"start": "02:32:51", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "ridiculous. To power all of this, the"}, {"start": "02:32:54", "end": "02:32:58", "text": "simulation would need access to multiple"}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:33:01", "text": "Dyson spheres, the mega structures that"}, {"start": "02:32:58", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "capture 100% of the energy of a star. Or"}, {"start": "02:33:01", "end": "02:33:05", "text": "the simulation would have to harness the"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:07", "text": "energy from black holes. This is why"}, {"start": "02:33:05", "end": "02:33:09", "text": "famous physicists like Dr. Mitchioaku"}, {"start": "02:33:07", "end": "02:33:11", "text": "are not on board with simulation theory."}, {"start": "02:33:09", "end": "02:33:14", "text": "He claims that simulating a universe is"}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "not scientifically possible. The only"}, {"start": "02:33:14", "end": "02:33:18", "text": "computer capable of simulating a"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "universe is the universe itself. Now, at"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:23", "text": "first glance, this makes sense. But with"}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:25", "text": "all due respect to Dr. Kaku, that's not"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "how simulations work. When you're"}, {"start": "02:33:25", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "playing a 3D video game, the entire game"}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "world isn't rendered. Instead, the game"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "engine only calculates what the player"}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "can see and interact with at that"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "specific moment. If we are living in a"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:39", "text": "simulation, then it would make sense"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:41", "text": "that the creators of the simulation"}, {"start": "02:33:39", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "would use a similar technique. And"}, {"start": "02:33:41", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "wouldn't it be interesting if there was"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:45", "text": "evidence that this is exactly what"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "happens?"}, {"start": "02:33:45", "end": "02:33:52", "text": ">> Wait a minute. Do we have proof? Sweet"}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "fancy Moses."}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:00", "text": "Supporters of simulation theory often"}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "point to video games as a way to"}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:04", "text": "explain, if not prove that our reality"}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:06", "text": "is artificial. In a video game, the only"}, {"start": "02:34:04", "end": "02:34:08", "text": "data that is rendered is what the player"}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:09", "text": "sees or interacts with. If you're"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:11", "text": "playing a video game and there's a car"}, {"start": "02:34:09", "end": "02:34:13", "text": "or building a mile away, that entire"}, {"start": "02:34:11", "end": "02:34:15", "text": "object isn't rendered. The game engine"}, {"start": "02:34:13", "end": "02:34:17", "text": "only renders the bare minimum of"}, {"start": "02:34:15", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "information to make the object look"}, {"start": "02:34:17", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "real. A distant building is rendered as"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "just a few pixels. Not that complicated."}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:25", "text": "As you get closer, the engine renders"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:27", "text": "more details, but still it's just a"}, {"start": "02:34:25", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "facade. The engine doesn't bother"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:31", "text": "calculating what's inside the building"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:33", "text": "to actually go in. The game engine"}, {"start": "02:34:31", "end": "02:34:35", "text": "always knows how much data to send you"}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:37", "text": "and doesn't bother with anything else."}, {"start": "02:34:35", "end": "02:34:39", "text": "If we live in a simulation, it would"}, {"start": "02:34:37", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "make sense that our reality is rendered"}, {"start": "02:34:39", "end": "02:34:44", "text": "the same way. And we could test this."}, {"start": "02:34:41", "end": "02:34:46", "text": ">> Wait, what do you mean we can test this?"}, {"start": "02:34:44", "end": "02:34:48", "text": "Specifically, we can use the double slit"}, {"start": "02:34:46", "end": "02:34:50", "text": "experiment. Here's how it goes. If we"}, {"start": "02:34:48", "end": "02:34:52", "text": "fire particles in a straight line at a"}, {"start": "02:34:50", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "screen, after passing through a single"}, {"start": "02:34:52", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "slit, we would expect to see this"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "clumping pattern on the screen. If we"}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "try this with a wave, we expect to see a"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "pattern like this, where particles are"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "most dense in the middle of the screen,"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:07", "text": "but radiate outward, similar to the"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:09", "text": "clumping pattern. When we add a second"}, {"start": "02:35:07", "end": "02:35:11", "text": "slit, it starts to get fun. When the"}, {"start": "02:35:09", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "waves pass through the double slit, each"}, {"start": "02:35:11", "end": "02:35:15", "text": "slit creates its own wave. When those"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:18", "text": "waves intersect, they cancel each other"}, {"start": "02:35:15", "end": "02:35:20", "text": "out. That creates a pattern like this."}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:22", "text": "It's called an interference pattern. So,"}, {"start": "02:35:20", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "particles passing through two slits"}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "create clumping patterns. Waves through"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:27", "text": "two slits creates an interference"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "pattern. Make sense?"}, {"start": "02:35:27", "end": "02:35:30", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm with you."}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:32", "text": ">> Good. If we fire electrons through the"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:35", "text": "slit, we see the clumping pattern as"}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:37", "text": "expected. An electron has mass, so it's"}, {"start": "02:35:35", "end": "02:35:39", "text": "a tiny bit of matter. So, if we fire"}, {"start": "02:35:37", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "electrons through two slits, we should"}, {"start": "02:35:39", "end": "02:35:44", "text": "see two clumps. But, we don't. we see"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:46", "text": "the wave interference pattern. This"}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "shouldn't be happening. What's going on"}, {"start": "02:35:46", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "here? For years, scientists assumed that"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:52", "text": "the electrons were colliding with each"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:54", "text": "other, causing the wave pattern. But in"}, {"start": "02:35:52", "end": "02:35:56", "text": "the '60s, the experiment was modified so"}, {"start": "02:35:54", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "that only one electron at a time was"}, {"start": "02:35:56", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "fired through the slits. There was no"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:02", "text": "way the electrons could interact with"}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:04", "text": "each other. Yet, we still see an"}, {"start": "02:36:02", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "interference pattern. Scientists wanted"}, {"start": "02:36:04", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "to see what was causing this, so they"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "added a detector to observe electrons as"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:13", "text": "they pass through the slits. That's when"}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "things go from weird to paranormal. As"}, {"start": "02:36:13", "end": "02:36:17", "text": "soon as the detectors were installed,"}, {"start": "02:36:15", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "the interference pattern went away and"}, {"start": "02:36:17", "end": "02:36:21", "text": "the clumping pattern returned. Take the"}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "detectors away and the wave interference"}, {"start": "02:36:21", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "pattern is back. But that's a different"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:30", "text": "result to what we had earlier. So,"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:32", "text": "here's the last bit of sneakiness that"}, {"start": "02:36:30", "end": "02:36:34", "text": "we can play with atoms. Surely now, you"}, {"start": "02:36:32", "end": "02:36:36", "text": "know, we we're going to get to grips"}, {"start": "02:36:34", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "with it."}, {"start": "02:36:36", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "Leave the detector there, but just very"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "quietly go and unplug it."}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "Don't let the atoms know that you're not"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "spying on them."}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "Run the experiment again."}, {"start": "02:36:52", "end": "02:36:58", "text": "Now, if you can explain this using"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "common sense and logic,"}, {"start": "02:36:58", "end": "02:37:02", "text": "do let me know"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "because there's a Nobel Prize for you."}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:06", "text": "It's as if the particles are aware"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:08", "text": "they're being observed. Then physicist"}, {"start": "02:37:06", "end": "02:37:11", "text": "John Wheeler had an idea. He called it"}, {"start": "02:37:08", "end": "02:37:13", "text": "the delayed choice experiment. How it"}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:15", "text": "works is photons are projected through"}, {"start": "02:37:13", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "the double slit, but the detector is not"}, {"start": "02:37:15", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "activated until after they pass through"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "the slit, but before they impact the"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:26", "text": "screen. Photons were emitted as waves,"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "pass through the slits as waves. But"}, {"start": "02:37:26", "end": "02:37:29", "text": "when the waves were observed before"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "hitting the screen, they suddenly"}, {"start": "02:37:29", "end": "02:37:33", "text": "behaved like particles again. still"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:35", "text": "don't think there's an intelligence at"}, {"start": "02:37:33", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "work. Well, what Wheeler's experiment"}, {"start": "02:37:35", "end": "02:37:39", "text": "showed is that even though the electrons"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "started as waves but behaved like"}, {"start": "02:37:39", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "particles after being observed, at the"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:46", "text": "moment the decision to observe them was"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:49", "text": "made, the electrons recorded themselves"}, {"start": "02:37:46", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "as having passed through the slits as"}, {"start": "02:37:49", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "particles. The electrons changed their"}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:58", "text": "state by going back in time. time."}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:38:00", "text": ">> I personally find that I gravitate more"}, {"start": "02:37:58", "end": "02:38:03", "text": "towards the information theoretic point"}, {"start": "02:38:00", "end": "02:38:06", "text": "of view and and believing that uh that"}, {"start": "02:38:03", "end": "02:38:08", "text": "I'm I the universe that I exist in is a"}, {"start": "02:38:06", "end": "02:38:10", "text": "very good highquality simulation."}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:13", "text": ">> Now this experiment is happening on a"}, {"start": "02:38:10", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "table in a lab a very short distance. So"}, {"start": "02:38:13", "end": "02:38:17", "text": "what happens when we observe light"}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "coming from vast distances like say a"}, {"start": "02:38:17", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "galaxy 100 million lighty years away. If"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "light from a distant galaxy is projected"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "through the double slit, it creates the"}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:29", "text": "wave interference pattern. But if we"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:31", "text": "push those photons through a measuring"}, {"start": "02:38:29", "end": "02:38:33", "text": "apparatus to observe them, the wave"}, {"start": "02:38:31", "end": "02:38:36", "text": "again collapses all the way back to its"}, {"start": "02:38:33", "end": "02:38:38", "text": "source. This is called retrocausality."}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:40", "text": "Simply by choosing to observe the"}, {"start": "02:38:38", "end": "02:38:43", "text": "photons this way, they reach back"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "through time 100 million years and alter"}, {"start": "02:38:43", "end": "02:38:49", "text": "their state on the other side of the"}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:51", "text": "galaxy. But like a video game engine, it"}, {"start": "02:38:49", "end": "02:38:53", "text": "only does this if we're looking. Even"}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:55", "text": "though our universe is full of galaxies,"}, {"start": "02:38:53", "end": "02:38:57", "text": "those galaxies may not actually be"}, {"start": "02:38:55", "end": "02:39:00", "text": "there. If we're living in a simulation,"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:39:02", "text": "then stars and galaxies could simply be"}, {"start": "02:39:00", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "projections. And only when we get up"}, {"start": "02:39:02", "end": "02:39:06", "text": "close would those projections become"}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "more detailed. This is an excellent way"}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "to save computational resources. And"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "because we're stuck with the hard limit"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:14", "text": "of the speed of light, getting to far"}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:16", "text": "off places is really difficult. Limiting"}, {"start": "02:39:14", "end": "02:39:18", "text": "the speed of light is a useful rule to"}, {"start": "02:39:16", "end": "02:39:20", "text": "have in place. Quantum mechanics like"}, {"start": "02:39:18", "end": "02:39:22", "text": "the double slit experiment and quantum"}, {"start": "02:39:20", "end": "02:39:24", "text": "entanglement only make sense if there's"}, {"start": "02:39:22", "end": "02:39:27", "text": "a program at work because only the"}, {"start": "02:39:24", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "program can ignore the laws of physics"}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "and ignore the concept of time itself."}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:41", "text": "A convenient case for simulation theory"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:43", "text": "is you can't disprove it. The Big Bang."}, {"start": "02:39:41", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "That was the simulation booting up. We"}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:47", "text": "haven't found aliens. They're not in the"}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "simulation. How come UFOs seem to"}, {"start": "02:39:47", "end": "02:39:51", "text": "violate the laws of physics? Well,"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:53", "text": "because they're programs operated by the"}, {"start": "02:39:51", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "simulation creators. They don't have to"}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:57", "text": "follow the laws of physics."}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:39:58", "text": ">> Yeah, but who created the simulation?"}, {"start": "02:39:57", "end": "02:40:00", "text": ">> Well, that's the big question, isn't it?"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:03", "text": "When you think of the simulation creator"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:04", "text": "as an omnisient intelligence who exists"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:07", "text": "outside of our understanding of space"}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:09", "text": "and time, it sounds an awful lot like"}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:12", "text": "you're describing God. And just like you"}, {"start": "02:40:09", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "can't prove we're not in a simulation,"}, {"start": "02:40:12", "end": "02:40:15", "text": "you can't prove there is no God. If"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:17", "text": "something miraculous happens or"}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "something horrible happens, you can say"}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "it's part of the simulation just as"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "easily as you can say it's part of God's"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:26", "text": "plan. Something I find very interesting"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "is that many believers of simulation"}, {"start": "02:40:26", "end": "02:40:31", "text": "theory are fierce atheists. They dismiss"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "the idea of God as corny superstition."}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "And there are plenty of devoutly"}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:37", "text": "religious people who dismiss provable"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "science like evolution and the age of"}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:42", "text": "the earth. People on the religious side"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:44", "text": "say that if there is no God and life is"}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:47", "text": "just a simulation, then nothing matters."}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "Without God to guide us and sometimes"}, {"start": "02:40:47", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "punish us, depending on what you"}, {"start": "02:40:48", "end": "02:40:53", "text": "believe, our actions don't have"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:55", "text": "consequences. I disagree. Even if we"}, {"start": "02:40:53", "end": "02:40:57", "text": "don't live in base reality, we still"}, {"start": "02:40:55", "end": "02:41:00", "text": "live in our reality. And our actions"}, {"start": "02:40:57", "end": "02:41:02", "text": "here do have consequences. As for what"}, {"start": "02:41:00", "end": "02:41:05", "text": "happens after we die, simulation or not,"}, {"start": "02:41:02", "end": "02:41:06", "text": "nobody really knows. Both sides argue"}, {"start": "02:41:05", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "that faith and science are not"}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "compatible. Isn't this hypocritical?"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "Whether you believe in God or you"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "believe in simulation theory, the real"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "question is, what's the difference?"}, {"start": "02:41:20", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "The next episode was picked by Victoria."}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:30", "text": "Victoria pretty much runs things around"}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:32", "text": "here. Don't cross her, she'll cut you."}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "Okay, Victoria chose the episode about"}, {"start": "02:41:32", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "Ooh, this is a good one. Victoria chose"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "go Beckley Teepe. I hope I said that"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:47", "text": "right. Teepe. Teepe. Whatever."}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:49", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "02:41:47", "end": "02:41:51", "text": "We are the descendants of an ancient"}, {"start": "02:41:49", "end": "02:41:54", "text": "civilization. One which mastered"}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:55", "text": "technology, mapped the cosmos, and"}, {"start": "02:41:54", "end": "02:41:58", "text": "understood our relationship with the"}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:42:00", "text": "natural world. Our ancestors traveled"}, {"start": "02:41:58", "end": "02:42:03", "text": "the world and built enormous structures."}, {"start": "02:42:00", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "They scaled their creations into cities."}, {"start": "02:42:03", "end": "02:42:08", "text": "They shared a common governance and"}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:10", "text": "similar religious beliefs. Our ancestors"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:14", "text": "lived as we do today as a global"}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:16", "text": "society. Then around 14,500 years ago,"}, {"start": "02:42:14", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "this global superpower started to"}, {"start": "02:42:16", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "collapse. First came uncontrollable"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:24", "text": "change and then a cataclysm. In less"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:27", "text": "than a week, everything and almost"}, {"start": "02:42:24", "end": "02:42:30", "text": "everyone was gone. Those left behind"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:32", "text": "built monuments. Monuments not as"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "tributes to gods or homage to kings. The"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "monuments are a warning to future"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "generations. To us, that warning is"}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:43", "text": "simple. Danger is coming. Our"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:46", "text": "civilization has ended before and it"}, {"start": "02:42:43", "end": "02:42:48", "text": "will end again. This is one story that"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "big archaeology and world governments"}, {"start": "02:42:48", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "don't want you to know because once you"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:54", "text": "hear it, you'll never trust them again."}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:56", "text": "Because the danger that's coming,"}, {"start": "02:42:54", "end": "02:42:59", "text": "there's not a thing they can do to stop"}, {"start": "02:42:56", "end": "02:42:59", "text": "it."}, {"start": "02:43:04", "end": "02:43:09", "text": "In 1994, German archaeologist Clash"}, {"start": "02:43:07", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "Schmidt was touring Turkish Neolithic"}, {"start": "02:43:09", "end": "02:43:14", "text": "sites when he spotted a limestone block"}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:17", "text": "poking out from a hillside. The locals"}, {"start": "02:43:14", "end": "02:43:19", "text": "called the area potbelly hill or in"}, {"start": "02:43:17", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "their language, Gobeclete."}, {"start": "02:43:19", "end": "02:43:24", "text": "Schmidt and his team began excavating"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "the hillside around the limestone. And"}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:27", "text": "though they didn't know it at the time,"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "what they discovered would change"}, {"start": "02:43:27", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "everything we know about human history."}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:34", "text": "We've all been taught the official"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "story, the big archaeology story of the"}, {"start": "02:43:34", "end": "02:43:39", "text": "origin of human civilization."}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:40", "text": "Stone age hunter gatherers emerged from"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:42", "text": "the last ice age and eventually"}, {"start": "02:43:40", "end": "02:43:44", "text": "discovered farming. These people"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:46", "text": "organized into settlements in"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:48", "text": "Mesopotamia, the fertile crescent. Then"}, {"start": "02:43:46", "end": "02:43:51", "text": "about 6,000 years ago, the first"}, {"start": "02:43:48", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "civilization was born, ancient Sumer."}, {"start": "02:43:51", "end": "02:43:55", "text": "Stone age humans before Sumer were"}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:43:59", "text": "primitive. Their most advanced"}, {"start": "02:43:55", "end": "02:44:02", "text": "technology was stone tools. At Quebec,"}, {"start": "02:43:59", "end": "02:44:05", "text": "archaeologists uncovered four man-made"}, {"start": "02:44:02", "end": "02:44:08", "text": "stone enclosures covering 100,000 square"}, {"start": "02:44:05", "end": "02:44:11", "text": "ft of land. That's interesting, but"}, {"start": "02:44:08", "end": "02:44:14", "text": "there was a problem. The earliest parts"}, {"start": "02:44:11", "end": "02:44:18", "text": "of Gbecepe were built 11,600"}, {"start": "02:44:14", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "years ago. That's 6,000 years before the"}, {"start": "02:44:18", "end": "02:44:23", "text": "ancient Samrians were doing anything."}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:26", "text": "Now, this didn't make sense at all."}, {"start": "02:44:23", "end": "02:44:29", "text": "11,600 years ago was the end of the last"}, {"start": "02:44:26", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "ice age. Big archaeology said this far"}, {"start": "02:44:29", "end": "02:44:33", "text": "back in time, humans were following the"}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:36", "text": "migration of animals. They built"}, {"start": "02:44:33", "end": "02:44:39", "text": "temporary camps or at most mud huts."}, {"start": "02:44:36", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "Humans were not building enormous"}, {"start": "02:44:39", "end": "02:44:42", "text": "permanent stone structures. They didn't"}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:45", "text": "have the knowledge. They didn't have the"}, {"start": "02:44:42", "end": "02:44:49", "text": "tools. They didn't have the talent. Yet,"}, {"start": "02:44:45", "end": "02:44:52", "text": "here it was. So, the more they dug, the"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "more things stopped making sense. Soon,"}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "archaeologists learned that the"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:58", "text": "enclosures weren't built at the same"}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:45:01", "text": "time. This indicates long-term"}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:02", "text": "occupation of the site. Well, how long?"}, {"start": "02:45:01", "end": "02:45:05", "text": "Well, the newest structure was built"}, {"start": "02:45:02", "end": "02:45:09", "text": "about 10,500 years ago. That means"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:12", "text": "Gobecletepe was occupied for over 1,000"}, {"start": "02:45:09", "end": "02:45:15", "text": "years. Now, 1,000 years doesn't sound"}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:18", "text": "that long, but in human history, 1,000"}, {"start": "02:45:15", "end": "02:45:20", "text": "years is a very long time. That's enough"}, {"start": "02:45:18", "end": "02:45:24", "text": "time for the Roman Empire to rise and"}, {"start": "02:45:20", "end": "02:45:27", "text": "fall and rise and fall again."}, {"start": "02:45:24", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "The excavation of Gobecletepe continued,"}, {"start": "02:45:27", "end": "02:45:31", "text": "and from the perspective of the"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:34", "text": "scientific establishment, things just"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:36", "text": "kept getting worse. Gobecée wasn't"}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:39", "text": "haphazardly thrown together by Stone Age"}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:42", "text": "primitives. It was built strategically"}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:42", "text": "for a purpose."}, {"start": "02:45:45", "end": "02:45:51", "text": "The four enclosures are circular between"}, {"start": "02:45:48", "end": "02:45:54", "text": "20 and 200 ft across and all are angled"}, {"start": "02:45:51", "end": "02:45:56", "text": "toward the star Sirius. Sirius is the"}, {"start": "02:45:54", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "brightest star in the sky. Many cultures"}, {"start": "02:45:56", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "throughout history built temples angled"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:05", "text": "at Sirius, but not 12,000 years ago. Yet"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:08", "text": "here it was."}, {"start": "02:46:05", "end": "02:46:11", "text": "Over the course of 1100 years, Sirius's"}, {"start": "02:46:08", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "alignment moved across the night sky. So"}, {"start": "02:46:11", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "the builders of a Gbeclete created newer"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:18", "text": "enclosures to follow each realignment."}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:21", "text": "To build these monuments required an"}, {"start": "02:46:18", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "understanding of astronomy, mathematics,"}, {"start": "02:46:21", "end": "02:46:26", "text": "and engineering. A project of this size"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:28", "text": "would also require skills like community"}, {"start": "02:46:26", "end": "02:46:31", "text": "planning, administration, and division"}, {"start": "02:46:28", "end": "02:46:33", "text": "of labor. Big archaeology said people"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "during this time had not yet acquired"}, {"start": "02:46:33", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "these skills. Yet, here it was."}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "Within each enclosure are T-shaped"}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "pillars, some of them 16 ft tall, each"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:48", "text": "weighing up to 10 tons. 43 pillars have"}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:51", "text": "been excavated so far, but the Gobeclete"}, {"start": "02:46:48", "end": "02:46:54", "text": "story is just getting started. Only 5%"}, {"start": "02:46:51", "end": "02:46:57", "text": "of the site has been uncovered. Recent"}, {"start": "02:46:54", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "LAR imaging revealed at least 15 to 20"}, {"start": "02:46:57", "end": "02:47:02", "text": "additional structures and enclosures"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "buried beneath the main site and there"}, {"start": "02:47:02", "end": "02:47:07", "text": "are more than 200 additional stone"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:10", "text": "pillars. Now about those stone pillars,"}, {"start": "02:47:07", "end": "02:47:12", "text": "there's something very strange going on."}, {"start": "02:47:10", "end": "02:47:14", "text": "Engraved on the pillars are depictions"}, {"start": "02:47:12", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "of humans, animals, and human animal"}, {"start": "02:47:14", "end": "02:47:19", "text": "hybrids. There are foxes, lions,"}, {"start": "02:47:17", "end": "02:47:22", "text": "scorpions, snakes, boar, wild donkey,"}, {"start": "02:47:19", "end": "02:47:25", "text": "gazels. There's all kinds of things. And"}, {"start": "02:47:22", "end": "02:47:27", "text": "the work is very advanced, but the most"}, {"start": "02:47:25", "end": "02:47:30", "text": "advanced carvings are on the oldest"}, {"start": "02:47:27", "end": "02:47:33", "text": "pillars. As the site gets newer, the"}, {"start": "02:47:30", "end": "02:47:35", "text": "designs get less intricate. It's like"}, {"start": "02:47:33", "end": "02:47:39", "text": "technology and craftsmanship suddenly"}, {"start": "02:47:35", "end": "02:47:42", "text": "appeared out of nowhere."}, {"start": "02:47:39", "end": "02:47:44", "text": "Somehow, 7,000 years before Stonehenge"}, {"start": "02:47:42", "end": "02:47:46", "text": "and the Great Pyramids of Giza were"}, {"start": "02:47:44", "end": "02:47:48", "text": "built, and 6,000 years before the"}, {"start": "02:47:46", "end": "02:47:52", "text": "invention of writing, humans were"}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:52", "text": "capable of building this"}, {"start": "02:47:53", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "Where did the builders get this sudden"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "knowledge?"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:47:58", "text": ">> Theunnaki."}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:47:59", "text": ">> Well, the answer to that question is"}, {"start": "02:47:58", "end": "02:48:00", "text": "controversial."}, {"start": "02:47:59", "end": "02:48:02", "text": ">> The Anunnaki."}, {"start": "02:48:00", "end": "02:48:04", "text": ">> Maybe the human story doesn't start at"}, {"start": "02:48:02", "end": "02:48:08", "text": "the end of the last ice age like big"}, {"start": "02:48:04", "end": "02:48:11", "text": "archaeology wants us to think."}, {"start": "02:48:08", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "Maybe before the last ice age, the earth"}, {"start": "02:48:11", "end": "02:48:16", "text": "was home to an older and much more"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:18", "text": "advanced civilization. That civilization"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:20", "text": "then taught the primitive local hunter"}, {"start": "02:48:18", "end": "02:48:22", "text": "gatherers about mathematics and"}, {"start": "02:48:20", "end": "02:48:24", "text": "engineering. They also taught these"}, {"start": "02:48:22", "end": "02:48:27", "text": "primitive humans astronomy and told them"}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:29", "text": "to pay very close attention to the sky."}, {"start": "02:48:27", "end": "02:48:31", "text": "These ancients then told the local"}, {"start": "02:48:29", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "people their story of the time before"}, {"start": "02:48:31", "end": "02:48:36", "text": "the ice age when their civilization"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:39", "text": "flourished."}, {"start": "02:48:36", "end": "02:48:41", "text": "Pillar 43 in enclosure D has become"}, {"start": "02:48:39", "end": "02:48:43", "text": "known as the Vulture Stone. On the"}, {"start": "02:48:41", "end": "02:48:45", "text": "vulture stone, there's a detailed"}, {"start": "02:48:43", "end": "02:48:48", "text": "carving that tells the story of these"}, {"start": "02:48:45", "end": "02:48:52", "text": "ancient people. Unfortunately, it's also"}, {"start": "02:48:48", "end": "02:48:52", "text": "the story of the end of the world."}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:49:01", "text": "Pillar 43 in enclosure D, also known as"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:04", "text": "the Vulture Stone, depicts the worst day"}, {"start": "02:49:01", "end": "02:49:06", "text": "in human history. Engraved on the pillar"}, {"start": "02:49:04", "end": "02:49:09", "text": "are asterisms, which are bright star"}, {"start": "02:49:06", "end": "02:49:12", "text": "clusters like constellations. Pillar 43"}, {"start": "02:49:09", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "points to Scorpius. Now, to be fair to"}, {"start": "02:49:12", "end": "02:49:16", "text": "skeptics, every culture is going to have"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:18", "text": "different representations for their"}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:20", "text": "constellations. But look at the drawing"}, {"start": "02:49:18", "end": "02:49:22", "text": "on the vulture stone. Without a doubt,"}, {"start": "02:49:20", "end": "02:49:24", "text": "that is a scorpion. When the"}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "constellation Scorpius is lined up with"}, {"start": "02:49:24", "end": "02:49:29", "text": "the night sky, all the other drawings"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:31", "text": "fall into place, each of them"}, {"start": "02:49:29", "end": "02:49:34", "text": "representing constellations. A sun sits"}, {"start": "02:49:31", "end": "02:49:36", "text": "at top the vulture's wing in the design,"}, {"start": "02:49:34", "end": "02:49:38", "text": "showing its placement in the sky in"}, {"start": "02:49:36", "end": "02:49:40", "text": "relation to the stars. If we use the"}, {"start": "02:49:38", "end": "02:49:43", "text": "central sun as a guide to line up the"}, {"start": "02:49:40", "end": "02:49:47", "text": "constellations, it reveals a star map."}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:49", "text": "And every star map is a date stamp."}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:51", "text": "Take the Hoover Dam for example."}, {"start": "02:49:49", "end": "02:49:54", "text": "Engraved on the floor of the dam is the"}, {"start": "02:49:51", "end": "02:49:56", "text": "exact configuration of the stars as seen"}, {"start": "02:49:54", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "from that location on the day the dam"}, {"start": "02:49:56", "end": "02:49:59", "text": "opened."}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:00", "text": ">> Ew. Why did they carve that in the damn"}, {"start": "02:49:59", "end": "02:50:02", "text": "floor?"}, {"start": "02:50:00", "end": "02:50:03", "text": ">> So, if the structure is found thousands"}, {"start": "02:50:02", "end": "02:50:05", "text": "or millions of years from now,"}, {"start": "02:50:03", "end": "02:50:07", "text": "archaeologists will know the exact date."}, {"start": "02:50:05", "end": "02:50:08", "text": "The day the damn people made it,"}, {"start": "02:50:07", "end": "02:50:11", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:50:08", "end": "02:50:11", "text": ">> Damn good idea."}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:16", "text": ">> The vulture stone shows the only time in"}, {"start": "02:50:14", "end": "02:50:19", "text": "history that this specific configuration"}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:23", "text": "of stars could be seen from Gobeclete."}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:27", "text": "It was a 100-year window between 10,900"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:30", "text": "to 10,800 BC, about 13,000 years ago."}, {"start": "02:50:27", "end": "02:50:33", "text": "But wait, this is more than a,000 years"}, {"start": "02:50:30", "end": "02:50:35", "text": "before Gobecletepe was built. So this"}, {"start": "02:50:33", "end": "02:50:38", "text": "tablet is telling a story of something"}, {"start": "02:50:35", "end": "02:50:40", "text": "that happened in the past. It's the"}, {"start": "02:50:38", "end": "02:50:43", "text": "story of a time period commonly referred"}, {"start": "02:50:40", "end": "02:50:45", "text": "to as the younger dus and the terror"}, {"start": "02:50:43", "end": "02:50:47", "text": "from the sky that changed the face of"}, {"start": "02:50:45", "end": "02:50:49", "text": "the earth."}, {"start": "02:50:47", "end": "02:50:52", "text": "The ice age lasted about 2.6 million"}, {"start": "02:50:49", "end": "02:50:54", "text": "years. Most of the northern hemisphere"}, {"start": "02:50:52", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "was covered by miles thick sheets of"}, {"start": "02:50:54", "end": "02:51:00", "text": "ice. 30% of the earth's surface was"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:51:02", "text": "covered by glaciers. This sounds bad,"}, {"start": "02:51:00", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "but for the human race, it was good."}, {"start": "02:51:02", "end": "02:51:07", "text": "Sure, the climate was cold, but it"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:08", "text": "wasn't cold everywhere."}, {"start": "02:51:07", "end": "02:51:10", "text": "Most of Africa and the Middle East were"}, {"start": "02:51:08", "end": "02:51:13", "text": "warm with plenty of plant and animal"}, {"start": "02:51:10", "end": "02:51:16", "text": "life. And the climate was consistent for"}, {"start": "02:51:13", "end": "02:51:18", "text": "2.6 million years. Hominids had a nice,"}, {"start": "02:51:16", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "stable climate in which to evolve during"}, {"start": "02:51:18", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "this time. Homo sapiens, modern humans,"}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:28", "text": "emerged during this time. We were born"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:30", "text": "in the ice age. We thrived in it."}, {"start": "02:51:28", "end": "02:51:32", "text": "Then the climate started changing."}, {"start": "02:51:30", "end": "02:51:36", "text": "Temperatures became warmer year after"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:38", "text": "year. The ice sheets slowly melted. Sea"}, {"start": "02:51:36", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "levels gradually rose. This would have"}, {"start": "02:51:38", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "been a concern for the human"}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:43", "text": "civilization. But they were helpless to"}, {"start": "02:51:42", "end": "02:51:45", "text": "do anything about it."}, {"start": "02:51:43", "end": "02:51:47", "text": ">> Oh, so you admit that even if the"}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:48", "text": "climate is getting warmer, there's"}, {"start": "02:51:47", "end": "02:51:50", "text": "nothing we can do about it."}, {"start": "02:51:48", "end": "02:51:54", "text": ">> Well, that's an open debate."}, {"start": "02:51:50", "end": "02:51:54", "text": ">> How dare you?"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:52:00", "text": "Then suddenly around 12,900 years ago,"}, {"start": "02:51:57", "end": "02:52:02", "text": "the earth got cold again. Not as cold as"}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:04", "text": "before, but cold enough that humans"}, {"start": "02:52:02", "end": "02:52:07", "text": "understood how to survive and thrive in"}, {"start": "02:52:04", "end": "02:52:09", "text": "these conditions. This mini ice age was"}, {"start": "02:52:07", "end": "02:52:12", "text": "essentially a return to normal. But a"}, {"start": "02:52:09", "end": "02:52:16", "text": "thousand years later, this age of"}, {"start": "02:52:12", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "normaly ended violently and suddenly."}, {"start": "02:52:16", "end": "02:52:21", "text": "The ice sheets melted as they had"}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:23", "text": "before, but not over 2.6 million years."}, {"start": "02:52:21", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "This time, the ice melted in weeks."}, {"start": "02:52:23", "end": "02:52:28", "text": "There was no time for civilization to"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:30", "text": "adjust. This was the cataclysm. And"}, {"start": "02:52:28", "end": "02:52:32", "text": "there's evidence of this cataclysm in"}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:34", "text": "ice core samples taken from Greenland"}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "and Antarctica. There's evidence in"}, {"start": "02:52:34", "end": "02:52:38", "text": "sediment cores from the bottom of lakes"}, {"start": "02:52:36", "end": "02:52:41", "text": "and oceans. There's evidence in organic"}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "material that's been carbonated. But"}, {"start": "02:52:41", "end": "02:52:47", "text": "there's also evidence of this disaster"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "on Pillar 43, the Vulture Stone."}, {"start": "02:52:47", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "Along with giving us a date, the tablet"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:55", "text": "also depicts the comet impact of the"}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:57", "text": "younger Dus. At the bottom of the pillar"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:53:00", "text": "is a headless man linking the date to"}, {"start": "02:52:57", "end": "02:53:02", "text": "death. There's also a snake coming from"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:04", "text": "the south. This has been said to"}, {"start": "02:53:02", "end": "02:53:06", "text": "represent three giant waves washing over"}, {"start": "02:53:04", "end": "02:53:08", "text": "the earth. Those could have been the"}, {"start": "02:53:06", "end": "02:53:11", "text": "tsunamis that we know for sure happened."}, {"start": "02:53:08", "end": "02:53:14", "text": "But pillar 43 is only a piece of the"}, {"start": "02:53:11", "end": "02:53:17", "text": "story. Pillar 56 depicts more of the"}, {"start": "02:53:14", "end": "02:53:20", "text": "younger dus impact. Waves crashing,"}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:23", "text": "animals fleeing. Now those are scary,"}, {"start": "02:53:20", "end": "02:53:25", "text": "but to me, pillar 18 is the most ominous"}, {"start": "02:53:23", "end": "02:53:27", "text": "depiction at Gobecletepe. First of all,"}, {"start": "02:53:25", "end": "02:53:29", "text": "it contains the only word on the whole"}, {"start": "02:53:27", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "site. The word is God."}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:35", "text": ">> Maybe it was saying, \"Oh god, WE'RE"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:37", "text": "GOING TO DIE. Oh god, please save us.\""}, {"start": "02:53:35", "end": "02:53:38", "text": ">> I think it was saying exactly that."}, {"start": "02:53:37", "end": "02:53:40", "text": ">> Wait, wait. I was just joking."}, {"start": "02:53:38", "end": "02:53:42", "text": ">> Well, I think something very bad"}, {"start": "02:53:40", "end": "02:53:45", "text": "happened. And this pillar is a plea for"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:47", "text": "help. Oh, my my joke isn't very funny"}, {"start": "02:53:45", "end": "02:53:51", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "02:53:47", "end": "02:53:54", "text": ">> Pillar 18 in enclosure D focuses on the"}, {"start": "02:53:51", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "constellation we know as Aquarius, but"}, {"start": "02:53:54", "end": "02:53:58", "text": "when it was built, the pillar was"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:54:00", "text": "probably centered on Taurus. Now, if"}, {"start": "02:53:58", "end": "02:54:03", "text": "that's true, we now have a very big"}, {"start": "02:54:00", "end": "02:54:06", "text": "piece of this puzzle. The comet Enki was"}, {"start": "02:54:03", "end": "02:54:09", "text": "discovered in 1786 and takes about 3"}, {"start": "02:54:06", "end": "02:54:12", "text": "years to orbit the sun. Anki is about 3"}, {"start": "02:54:09", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "mi wide. Not a huge comet, but not small"}, {"start": "02:54:12", "end": "02:54:18", "text": "either. The thing is, it used to be"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:18", "text": "bigger, much bigger."}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:24", "text": "It was part of what scientists call a"}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:27", "text": "mega comet, 100 miles wide, and not just"}, {"start": "02:54:24", "end": "02:54:30", "text": "made of ice, but also glass, metal, and"}, {"start": "02:54:27", "end": "02:54:32", "text": "rock. About 20,000 years ago, the mega"}, {"start": "02:54:30", "end": "02:54:33", "text": "comet broke up."}, {"start": "02:54:32", "end": "02:54:38", "text": ">> This is good, right?"}, {"start": "02:54:33", "end": "02:54:40", "text": ">> Oh, no. This is bad. Really bad."}, {"start": "02:54:38", "end": "02:54:43", "text": "When the 100mile mega comet broke up, it"}, {"start": "02:54:40", "end": "02:54:45", "text": "created an enormous debris field. Now,"}, {"start": "02:54:43", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "instead of one mega comet, you've got"}, {"start": "02:54:45", "end": "02:54:51", "text": "millions of smaller comets ranging in"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:53", "text": "size from grains of sand to over a mile"}, {"start": "02:54:51", "end": "02:54:55", "text": "across. When the Earth passed through"}, {"start": "02:54:53", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "that cloud of debris, the people at"}, {"start": "02:54:55", "end": "02:55:00", "text": "Quebec would have seen a firestorm of"}, {"start": "02:54:58", "end": "02:55:03", "text": "comets raining down on the Earth, all"}, {"start": "02:55:00", "end": "02:55:06", "text": "coming from the Aquarius constellation,"}, {"start": "02:55:03", "end": "02:55:09", "text": "just as is depicted on Pillar 43. But"}, {"start": "02:55:06", "end": "02:55:12", "text": "here's the scary part. We fly through"}, {"start": "02:55:09", "end": "02:55:15", "text": "that same debris field every year."}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:17", "text": "It's called the torid meteor shower and"}, {"start": "02:55:15", "end": "02:55:19", "text": "it's caused a lot of damage through the"}, {"start": "02:55:17", "end": "02:55:22", "text": "years. And if you're watching this in"}, {"start": "02:55:19", "end": "02:55:27", "text": "September, October, or November, we're"}, {"start": "02:55:22", "end": "02:55:27", "text": "flying through it right now."}, {"start": "02:55:30", "end": "02:55:35", "text": "When Gobecley Teepe was discovered, big"}, {"start": "02:55:33", "end": "02:55:36", "text": "archaeology had no choice but to admit"}, {"start": "02:55:35", "end": "02:55:39", "text": "they had underestimated the"}, {"start": "02:55:36", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "technological abilities of early man by"}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:44", "text": "oh about 5,000 years. It must be a"}, {"start": "02:55:42", "end": "02:55:46", "text": "mistake, they said. After all, their"}, {"start": "02:55:44", "end": "02:55:48", "text": "grant money depends on them being right."}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:50", "text": "No need to fund a search for, let's say,"}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:54", "text": "a mummy in a pyramid. That's not going"}, {"start": "02:55:50", "end": "02:55:56", "text": "to be there. But in 2019, more bad news"}, {"start": "02:55:54", "end": "02:55:59", "text": "for the mainstream. That year,"}, {"start": "02:55:56", "end": "02:56:02", "text": "excavation started at Kahantepe, about"}, {"start": "02:55:59", "end": "02:56:04", "text": "40 mi from Gobecletepe. Initial"}, {"start": "02:56:02", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "estimates say it might have been settled"}, {"start": "02:56:04", "end": "02:56:08", "text": "before Gobecletepe."}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:11", "text": "Gobecletepe seems to have been built for"}, {"start": "02:56:08", "end": "02:56:14", "text": "a single purpose, maybe a place of"}, {"start": "02:56:11", "end": "02:56:17", "text": "worship or an observatory. Kahantepe is"}, {"start": "02:56:14", "end": "02:56:19", "text": "very different. It shows obvious signs"}, {"start": "02:56:17", "end": "02:56:21", "text": "of a structured society. Now, there are"}, {"start": "02:56:19", "end": "02:56:23", "text": "many different types of buildings at"}, {"start": "02:56:21", "end": "02:56:26", "text": "Kahantepe. Some could be shops or"}, {"start": "02:56:23", "end": "02:56:29", "text": "residences or food storage. vessels,"}, {"start": "02:56:26", "end": "02:56:30", "text": "grindstones, flint, plates, and all"}, {"start": "02:56:29", "end": "02:56:32", "text": "kinds of other objects have been found"}, {"start": "02:56:30", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "at Kahantepe."}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:37", "text": "These types of artifacts haven't been"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:40", "text": "found at Gobecée, suggesting the two"}, {"start": "02:56:37", "end": "02:56:42", "text": "sites served very different social"}, {"start": "02:56:40", "end": "02:56:44", "text": "functions, but these places existed at"}, {"start": "02:56:42", "end": "02:56:47", "text": "the same time. So, it's possible"}, {"start": "02:56:44", "end": "02:56:50", "text": "Gobeclete was a religious center where"}, {"start": "02:56:47", "end": "02:56:52", "text": "Kahantepe was a residential neighborhood"}, {"start": "02:56:50", "end": "02:56:54", "text": "or maybe a shopping district. And if"}, {"start": "02:56:52", "end": "02:56:56", "text": "that's true, there must be more"}, {"start": "02:56:54", "end": "02:56:58", "text": "settlements in the area yet to be found."}, {"start": "02:56:56", "end": "02:57:00", "text": ">> There's more."}, {"start": "02:56:58", "end": "02:57:03", "text": ">> Lots more."}, {"start": "02:57:00", "end": "02:57:05", "text": "In 2021, the Turkish government"}, {"start": "02:57:03", "end": "02:57:07", "text": "announced the discovery of at least 11"}, {"start": "02:57:05", "end": "02:57:10", "text": "additional hillsides which contain"}, {"start": "02:57:07", "end": "02:57:13", "text": "structures very much like Gobeclete. The"}, {"start": "02:57:10", "end": "02:57:15", "text": "hillsides make up a 100mile ring with"}, {"start": "02:57:13", "end": "02:57:18", "text": "Gobecée in the center. These sites are"}, {"start": "02:57:15", "end": "02:57:20", "text": "known collectively as Taspler. Now"}, {"start": "02:57:18", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "instead of an area inhabited by nomatic"}, {"start": "02:57:20", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "primitives, Tas Templar is a metropolis."}, {"start": "02:57:26", "end": "02:57:32", "text": "Cyborg was uncovered by archaeologists"}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "in 2021 around 10 mi from Gobeclete."}, {"start": "02:57:32", "end": "02:57:36", "text": "Cyborg is one of the most complex"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:38", "text": "settlements in the area. Archaeologists"}, {"start": "02:57:36", "end": "02:57:40", "text": "found communal buildings big enough to"}, {"start": "02:57:38", "end": "02:57:42", "text": "seat 50 people. There are communal halls"}, {"start": "02:57:40", "end": "02:57:45", "text": "covered with countless engravings of"}, {"start": "02:57:42", "end": "02:57:47", "text": "humans and animals. To the south of the"}, {"start": "02:57:45", "end": "02:57:50", "text": "communal buildings are ancient"}, {"start": "02:57:47", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "residential homes. The layout of each of"}, {"start": "02:57:50", "end": "02:57:54", "text": "the Tas Templer archaeological sites"}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:57", "text": "suggest hundreds of thousands of people"}, {"start": "02:57:54", "end": "02:57:59", "text": "live there permanently right after the"}, {"start": "02:57:57", "end": "02:58:02", "text": "younger dus changed the face of the"}, {"start": "02:57:59", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "world. But there's a site discovered in"}, {"start": "02:58:02", "end": "02:58:09", "text": "2008 about 180 mi away which really"}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:11", "text": "broke history and suggests Tas Templar"}, {"start": "02:58:09", "end": "02:58:13", "text": "may have been a capital in what was a"}, {"start": "02:58:11", "end": "02:58:16", "text": "very busy region. While digging a dam in"}, {"start": "02:58:13", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "the area, engineers rediscovered the"}, {"start": "02:58:16", "end": "02:58:20", "text": "settlement of Bankulu Tarla."}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:21", "text": ">> Damn engineers."}, {"start": "02:58:20", "end": "02:58:23", "text": ">> Look, you don't have to keep tagging"}, {"start": "02:58:21", "end": "02:58:27", "text": "that joke."}, {"start": "02:58:23", "end": "02:58:29", "text": ">> You don't like my damn jokes, huh?"}, {"start": "02:58:27", "end": "02:58:33", "text": ">> The Banclu Tarla settlement is between"}, {"start": "02:58:29", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "12,000 and 13,000 years old. That means"}, {"start": "02:58:33", "end": "02:58:37", "text": "it was built within the younger driest"}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:39", "text": "cold period before the flood. The"}, {"start": "02:58:37", "end": "02:58:42", "text": "structure found has similar features"}, {"start": "02:58:39", "end": "02:58:44", "text": "with Gobeci and the structures belonging"}, {"start": "02:58:42", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "to this period in the region. The"}, {"start": "02:58:44", "end": "02:58:49", "text": "building has a unique architectural"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:51", "text": "style, shape and interior arrangement"}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:53", "text": "unique with these features. We can say"}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:56", "text": "that it is a temple that dates back to"}, {"start": "02:58:53", "end": "02:58:58", "text": "12,000 years. This is where the"}, {"start": "02:58:56", "end": "02:59:01", "text": "existence of an ancient advanced"}, {"start": "02:58:58", "end": "02:59:04", "text": "civilization starts to become almost"}, {"start": "02:59:01", "end": "02:59:06", "text": "irrefutable. Bonukuluta has all the"}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:08", "text": "things we find on Tas Temple. private"}, {"start": "02:59:06", "end": "02:59:10", "text": "buildings, public spaces. It's got"}, {"start": "02:59:08", "end": "02:59:13", "text": "storage rooms, tools, ornamental"}, {"start": "02:59:10", "end": "02:59:16", "text": "objects. It's got mega and microliths."}, {"start": "02:59:13", "end": "02:59:18", "text": "The people of Vanklutara were so"}, {"start": "02:59:16", "end": "02:59:21", "text": "advanced they even built a sewer system."}, {"start": "02:59:18", "end": "02:59:23", "text": "More than 130 skeletons have been found"}, {"start": "02:59:21", "end": "02:59:26", "text": "there, each buried with hundreds of"}, {"start": "02:59:23", "end": "02:59:28", "text": "thousands of beads. The manufacturing of"}, {"start": "02:59:26", "end": "02:59:30", "text": "beads proves that there was a division"}, {"start": "02:59:28", "end": "02:59:32", "text": "of labor, an artisan class. It proves"}, {"start": "02:59:30", "end": "02:59:34", "text": "that the people had time for more than"}, {"start": "02:59:32", "end": "02:59:35", "text": "just hunting and gathering. They had"}, {"start": "02:59:34", "end": "02:59:37", "text": "time to make art."}, {"start": "02:59:35", "end": "02:59:39", "text": ">> Making beads is more of a craft than"}, {"start": "02:59:37", "end": "02:59:42", "text": "art. But I get your meaning."}, {"start": "02:59:39", "end": "02:59:45", "text": ">> So big archaeology was wrong again."}, {"start": "02:59:42", "end": "02:59:47", "text": "Very, very wrong. This area of Turkey"}, {"start": "02:59:45", "end": "02:59:49", "text": "shows that thousands of people lived"}, {"start": "02:59:47", "end": "02:59:51", "text": "there in organized communities. They"}, {"start": "02:59:49", "end": "02:59:54", "text": "built neighborhoods and temples. They"}, {"start": "02:59:51", "end": "02:59:56", "text": "had shops and large halls for gathering."}, {"start": "02:59:54", "end": "02:59:58", "text": "They had division of labor. They were"}, {"start": "02:59:56", "end": "03:00:00", "text": "experts at stonework. They understood"}, {"start": "02:59:58", "end": "03:00:04", "text": "mathematics and astronomy. They were"}, {"start": "03:00:00", "end": "03:00:07", "text": "talented engineers. And this was 12,000"}, {"start": "03:00:04", "end": "03:00:09", "text": "years ago. But where's the evidence of"}, {"start": "03:00:07", "end": "03:00:12", "text": "people learning these skills? If the"}, {"start": "03:00:09", "end": "03:00:15", "text": "people at Gobeclete were putting up 10"}, {"start": "03:00:12", "end": "03:00:17", "text": "ton stone pillars 10 to 12,000 years"}, {"start": "03:00:15", "end": "03:00:20", "text": "ago, shouldn't we see communities"}, {"start": "03:00:17", "end": "03:00:22", "text": "learning these skills 15,000 years ago,"}, {"start": "03:00:20", "end": "03:00:24", "text": "20,000 years ago? We should see an"}, {"start": "03:00:22", "end": "03:00:27", "text": "evolution of technology that takes"}, {"start": "03:00:24", "end": "03:00:31", "text": "thousands of years. But we don't. This"}, {"start": "03:00:27", "end": "03:00:34", "text": "advanced technology just appeared."}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:36", "text": "But that's not exactly true. The people"}, {"start": "03:00:34", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "in the area around Gobeclete, Bankuk"}, {"start": "03:00:36", "end": "03:00:42", "text": "Tarla, and Cybbert were taught this"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "technology after the great flood. It was"}, {"start": "03:00:42", "end": "03:00:48", "text": "a gift to them. A gift from the people"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:48", "text": "of the sea."}, {"start": "03:00:51", "end": "03:00:57", "text": "Mainstream or big archaeology gets"}, {"start": "03:00:54", "end": "03:00:59", "text": "things wrong. A lot of things. Gobecé"}, {"start": "03:00:57", "end": "03:01:01", "text": "shouldn't be there. Neither should"}, {"start": "03:00:59", "end": "03:01:03", "text": "Kahanepe. Bunkuk Tarla or any of the"}, {"start": "03:01:01", "end": "03:01:05", "text": "other settlements in the area. We're"}, {"start": "03:01:03", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "told the Great Pyramids of Giza are"}, {"start": "03:01:05", "end": "03:01:10", "text": "tombs built for pharaohs. But no mummy"}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:14", "text": "has ever been found in a tomb. Not one,"}, {"start": "03:01:10", "end": "03:01:16", "text": "not ever. But in the Great Pyramid, we"}, {"start": "03:01:14", "end": "03:01:18", "text": "did find evidence that it might have"}, {"start": "03:01:16", "end": "03:01:21", "text": "been used as an ancient power plant. Big"}, {"start": "03:01:18", "end": "03:01:23", "text": "archaeology hates that idea. Now, when I"}, {"start": "03:01:21", "end": "03:01:25", "text": "was growing up, we were taught that"}, {"start": "03:01:23", "end": "03:01:27", "text": "Native Americans first arrived in North"}, {"start": "03:01:25", "end": "03:01:30", "text": "America by crossing the Bearing Land"}, {"start": "03:01:27", "end": "03:01:33", "text": "Bridge in Alaska between 10 to 12,000"}, {"start": "03:01:30", "end": "03:01:35", "text": "years ago. This was called the Clovis"}, {"start": "03:01:33", "end": "03:01:37", "text": "first model because some stone tools"}, {"start": "03:01:35", "end": "03:01:40", "text": "were found in Clovis, New Mexico. Big"}, {"start": "03:01:37", "end": "03:01:44", "text": "archaeology wasn't even close on how"}, {"start": "03:01:40", "end": "03:01:46", "text": "people got to the Americas or when"}, {"start": "03:01:44", "end": "03:01:48", "text": "the Monte Verde site in Chile blew up"}, {"start": "03:01:46", "end": "03:01:50", "text": "the Clovis model when it was dated to"}, {"start": "03:01:48", "end": "03:01:52", "text": "14,800"}, {"start": "03:01:50", "end": "03:01:56", "text": "years ago. Buttermilk Creek complex in"}, {"start": "03:01:52", "end": "03:01:59", "text": "Texas was dated to about 15,500 years"}, {"start": "03:01:56", "end": "03:02:01", "text": "ago. The Bluefish Caves in Yukon, Canada"}, {"start": "03:01:59", "end": "03:02:06", "text": "have evidence suggesting human activity"}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:08", "text": "as far back as 24,000 years ago. Plus,"}, {"start": "03:02:06", "end": "03:02:10", "text": "there's hard evidence that people from"}, {"start": "03:02:08", "end": "03:02:14", "text": "Polynesia in the South Pacific traded"}, {"start": "03:02:10", "end": "03:02:16", "text": "with and mated with tribes in Guatemala"}, {"start": "03:02:14", "end": "03:02:18", "text": "many years before Columbus. And they"}, {"start": "03:02:16", "end": "03:02:20", "text": "didn't cross the Bearing Land Bridge in"}, {"start": "03:02:18", "end": "03:02:23", "text": "Alaska. They sailed thousands of miles"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:25", "text": "across the Pacific Ocean. This means"}, {"start": "03:02:23", "end": "03:02:27", "text": "they had advanced shipmaking skills and"}, {"start": "03:02:25", "end": "03:02:28", "text": "seammanship. They had knowledge of"}, {"start": "03:02:27", "end": "03:02:30", "text": "astronomy and the weather."}, {"start": "03:02:28", "end": "03:02:32", "text": ">> You had to make that trip. They also had"}, {"start": "03:02:30", "end": "03:02:34", "text": "to have balls of steel. I would have"}, {"start": "03:02:32", "end": "03:02:37", "text": "preferred that you said nerves of steel,"}, {"start": "03:02:34", "end": "03:02:39", "text": "but but yeah, they were brave."}, {"start": "03:02:37", "end": "03:02:42", "text": "Big archaeology knows the mine culture"}, {"start": "03:02:39", "end": "03:02:43", "text": "had a large population, but they were"}, {"start": "03:02:42", "end": "03:02:46", "text": "not considered to be very"}, {"start": "03:02:43", "end": "03:02:48", "text": "technologically advanced. But in 2023,"}, {"start": "03:02:46", "end": "03:02:50", "text": "researchers deep in the Guatemalan"}, {"start": "03:02:48", "end": "03:02:54", "text": "jungle discovered a sprawling Mayan"}, {"start": "03:02:50", "end": "03:02:56", "text": "civilization. It covers more than 650"}, {"start": "03:02:54", "end": "03:02:58", "text": "square miles. And here's the crazy"}, {"start": "03:02:56", "end": "03:03:01", "text": "thing. The cities were interconnected by"}, {"start": "03:02:58", "end": "03:03:03", "text": "a series of superhighways. And these"}, {"start": "03:03:01", "end": "03:03:05", "text": "weren't just paths or dirt roads. The"}, {"start": "03:03:03", "end": "03:03:07", "text": "roads were elevated to allow for"}, {"start": "03:03:05", "end": "03:03:10", "text": "drainage and even paved with white"}, {"start": "03:03:07", "end": "03:03:12", "text": "plaster. The Romans get a lot of credit"}, {"start": "03:03:10", "end": "03:03:14", "text": "for creating the first roads, but the"}, {"start": "03:03:12", "end": "03:03:17", "text": "Mayans beat the Romans to it by about"}, {"start": "03:03:14", "end": "03:03:19", "text": "2,000 years."}, {"start": "03:03:17", "end": "03:03:21", "text": "They're the world's first uh superighway"}, {"start": "03:03:19", "end": "03:03:23", "text": "system that we have. What's amazing"}, {"start": "03:03:21", "end": "03:03:26", "text": "about them is that they unite all these"}, {"start": "03:03:23", "end": "03:03:28", "text": "cities together like a spiderweb, which"}, {"start": "03:03:26", "end": "03:03:29", "text": "forms one of the earliest and first"}, {"start": "03:03:28", "end": "03:03:31", "text": "state societies in the Western"}, {"start": "03:03:29", "end": "03:03:33", "text": "Hemisphere."}, {"start": "03:03:31", "end": "03:03:35", "text": ">> So big archaeology was wrong about Mayan"}, {"start": "03:03:33", "end": "03:03:38", "text": "technology, but they still had to get in"}, {"start": "03:03:35", "end": "03:03:40", "text": "the last word. Mainstream said, \"Sure,"}, {"start": "03:03:38", "end": "03:03:42", "text": "they had hundreds of miles of roads, but"}, {"start": "03:03:40", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "they didn't have vehicles. They just"}, {"start": "03:03:42", "end": "03:03:46", "text": "walked. No animals or people pulling"}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:48", "text": "carts. They just walked hundreds of"}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:50", "text": "miles.\" Big archaeology said this is"}, {"start": "03:03:48", "end": "03:03:53", "text": "because the Mayans didn't discover the"}, {"start": "03:03:50", "end": "03:03:55", "text": "wheel. But Mayan toys have been"}, {"start": "03:03:53", "end": "03:03:57", "text": "discovered that have wheels. Big"}, {"start": "03:03:55", "end": "03:03:58", "text": "archaeology says the Mayans never"}, {"start": "03:03:57", "end": "03:04:01", "text": "thought to scale them up to put them on"}, {"start": "03:03:58", "end": "03:04:03", "text": "carts. How do we know this? Big"}, {"start": "03:04:01", "end": "03:04:07", "text": "archaeology says we know this because we"}, {"start": "03:04:03", "end": "03:04:09", "text": "haven't discovered the carts. Oh,"}, {"start": "03:04:07", "end": "03:04:11", "text": "but a year ago, big archaeology would"}, {"start": "03:04:09", "end": "03:04:13", "text": "have said there's no way the Mayans"}, {"start": "03:04:11", "end": "03:04:15", "text": "could have built a highway system. Why"}, {"start": "03:04:13", "end": "03:04:18", "text": "not? Well, because we haven't found one"}, {"start": "03:04:15", "end": "03:04:20", "text": "yet. There it is. Big archaeology is"}, {"start": "03:04:18", "end": "03:04:23", "text": "quick to take a lack of evidence at face"}, {"start": "03:04:20", "end": "03:04:25", "text": "value regardless of common sense. Like"}, {"start": "03:04:23", "end": "03:04:27", "text": "there was no such thing as the city of"}, {"start": "03:04:25", "end": "03:04:29", "text": "Dwarka, the advanced and prosperous city"}, {"start": "03:04:27", "end": "03:04:32", "text": "in India that was consumed by a great"}, {"start": "03:04:29", "end": "03:04:34", "text": "flood. That was all a myth. Then Dwara"}, {"start": "03:04:32", "end": "03:04:36", "text": "was found and dated to the younger"}, {"start": "03:04:34", "end": "03:04:38", "text": "Dryus. There's no such thing as"}, {"start": "03:04:36", "end": "03:04:41", "text": "Atlantis, but it's hard to explain the"}, {"start": "03:04:38", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "biminy road in the Bahamas or the"}, {"start": "03:04:41", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "ancient city off the coast of Cuba that"}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:49", "text": "could be anywhere from 6,000 to 50,000"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:51", "text": "years old. There's no such thing as MW,"}, {"start": "03:04:49", "end": "03:04:53", "text": "the continent that once connected Greece"}, {"start": "03:04:51", "end": "03:04:56", "text": "to Easter Island. Yet, the languages"}, {"start": "03:04:53", "end": "03:04:58", "text": "from those two cultures share about a"}, {"start": "03:04:56", "end": "03:05:01", "text": "thousand words, and the Anuguni monument"}, {"start": "03:04:58", "end": "03:05:03", "text": "off the coast of Japan is right where Mu"}, {"start": "03:05:01", "end": "03:05:05", "text": "would have been. There was no such thing"}, {"start": "03:05:03", "end": "03:05:08", "text": "as Darren Cuyu, the secret underground"}, {"start": "03:05:05", "end": "03:05:10", "text": "city that hid 20,000 people from danger"}, {"start": "03:05:08", "end": "03:05:13", "text": "for thousands of years. That was just a"}, {"start": "03:05:10", "end": "03:05:15", "text": "local myth. Then a man tried expanding"}, {"start": "03:05:13", "end": "03:05:17", "text": "his basement and realized it's already"}, {"start": "03:05:15", "end": "03:05:20", "text": "been expanded and the lost city of"}, {"start": "03:05:17", "end": "03:05:23", "text": "Darenuyu was discovered. And that's why"}, {"start": "03:05:20", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "big archaeology says there was no"}, {"start": "03:05:23", "end": "03:05:27", "text": "advanced culture before the flood"}, {"start": "03:05:25", "end": "03:05:31", "text": "because there's no evidence of it."}, {"start": "03:05:27", "end": "03:05:31", "text": "Except there is."}, {"start": "03:05:35", "end": "03:05:40", "text": "Every culture has a flood myth. Long"}, {"start": "03:05:37", "end": "03:05:42", "text": "before Noah built the ark, a great flood"}, {"start": "03:05:40", "end": "03:05:44", "text": "turned up in Mesopotamia in the epic of"}, {"start": "03:05:42", "end": "03:05:46", "text": "Gilgamesh. The ancient Samrians,"}, {"start": "03:05:44", "end": "03:05:48", "text": "Egyptians, Greeks, Hindus, they all have"}, {"start": "03:05:46", "end": "03:05:51", "text": "a legend of a deluge that wiped the"}, {"start": "03:05:48", "end": "03:05:53", "text": "earth clean. The flood myth really is"}, {"start": "03:05:51", "end": "03:05:55", "text": "worldwide. The Norse have their own"}, {"start": "03:05:53", "end": "03:05:58", "text": "version of the Noah's Arc story. the"}, {"start": "03:05:55", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "Inca, the Aztec, tribes across America,"}, {"start": "03:05:58", "end": "03:06:03", "text": "Japanese, Chinese, Hawaiian, Australian,"}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:05", "text": "Aboriginal. This is just to name a few."}, {"start": "03:06:03", "end": "03:06:07", "text": "The list is much longer. Now, the"}, {"start": "03:06:05", "end": "03:06:09", "text": "legends vary, but they're all basically"}, {"start": "03:06:07", "end": "03:06:11", "text": "the same plot. People are misbehaving,"}, {"start": "03:06:09", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "so a flood is sent to wipe them out and"}, {"start": "03:06:11", "end": "03:06:16", "text": "start over with a few survivors. Now, I"}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "don't know about the misbehaving part,"}, {"start": "03:06:16", "end": "03:06:20", "text": "but we're pretty sure the flood really"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:24", "text": "happened. But some of the flood legends"}, {"start": "03:06:20", "end": "03:06:24", "text": "have a twist."}, {"start": "03:06:27", "end": "03:06:32", "text": "Those legends say that before the flood,"}, {"start": "03:06:30", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "there were advanced civilizations who"}, {"start": "03:06:32", "end": "03:06:35", "text": "flourished on their own continents."}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:38", "text": "While primitive humans were still"}, {"start": "03:06:35", "end": "03:06:41", "text": "figuring out stone tools, Atlantis was a"}, {"start": "03:06:38", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "powerful and advanced island nation. It"}, {"start": "03:06:41", "end": "03:06:45", "text": "was larger than Asia and ruled by the"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "descendants of gods. Atlantis was"}, {"start": "03:06:45", "end": "03:06:50", "text": "prosperous and technologically advanced."}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:52", "text": "But the people became corrupt, prompting"}, {"start": "03:06:50", "end": "03:06:55", "text": "the gods to sink the island into the"}, {"start": "03:06:52", "end": "03:06:57", "text": "ocean in a single day and night of"}, {"start": "03:06:55", "end": "03:07:00", "text": "catastrophic earthquakes and floods."}, {"start": "03:06:57", "end": "03:07:02", "text": "Lamoria was a huge continent in the"}, {"start": "03:07:00", "end": "03:07:04", "text": "Pacific Ocean. Lamoria was home to a"}, {"start": "03:07:02", "end": "03:07:07", "text": "spiritually advanced civilization that"}, {"start": "03:07:04", "end": "03:07:10", "text": "was sometimes ally and sometimes enemy"}, {"start": "03:07:07", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "of Atlantis. And then there was MW. Mu"}, {"start": "03:07:10", "end": "03:07:14", "text": "was a continent either in the Pacific"}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:16", "text": "Ocean or Indian Ocean. It was once"}, {"start": "03:07:14", "end": "03:07:19", "text": "inhabited by an advanced civilization."}, {"start": "03:07:16", "end": "03:07:21", "text": "The survivors of MW brought their wisdom"}, {"start": "03:07:19", "end": "03:07:24", "text": "and began the civilizations of ancient"}, {"start": "03:07:21", "end": "03:07:27", "text": "Egypt and the Maya. Atlantis, Lamoria,"}, {"start": "03:07:24", "end": "03:07:29", "text": "and MW are all similar stories in that"}, {"start": "03:07:27", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "they were highly advanced civilizations."}, {"start": "03:07:29", "end": "03:07:35", "text": "All existed around 9600 BC, all"}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:37", "text": "destroyed by a great flood. But in all"}, {"start": "03:07:35", "end": "03:07:40", "text": "three stories, there are a few"}, {"start": "03:07:37", "end": "03:07:42", "text": "survivors. After the flood waters recede"}, {"start": "03:07:40", "end": "03:07:45", "text": "and their homelands are destroyed, these"}, {"start": "03:07:42", "end": "03:07:47", "text": "survivors seek refuge on the mainland."}, {"start": "03:07:45", "end": "03:07:49", "text": "The people they find are kind but"}, {"start": "03:07:47", "end": "03:07:51", "text": "primitive. So, the survivors grant them"}, {"start": "03:07:49", "end": "03:07:53", "text": "the gift of civilization."}, {"start": "03:07:51", "end": "03:07:54", "text": ">> And when you show up somewhere, it's"}, {"start": "03:07:53", "end": "03:07:57", "text": "always polite to bring something."}, {"start": "03:07:54", "end": "03:08:00", "text": "Flower, bottle of wine, civilization."}, {"start": "03:07:57", "end": "03:08:01", "text": ">> I agree. That's just good matters. But"}, {"start": "03:08:00", "end": "03:08:03", "text": "it's at this time that agriculture"}, {"start": "03:08:01", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "explodes across the Middle East."}, {"start": "03:08:03", "end": "03:08:08", "text": "Megalithic structures now appear."}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:11", "text": "Complex cities emerge all seemingly"}, {"start": "03:08:08", "end": "03:08:13", "text": "overnight."}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:16", "text": "In Hindu, Matsia takes the form of a"}, {"start": "03:08:13", "end": "03:08:19", "text": "fish and guides King Manu to reestablish"}, {"start": "03:08:16", "end": "03:08:21", "text": "civilization. In Mesopotamia, Aanas"}, {"start": "03:08:19", "end": "03:08:22", "text": "emerged from the sea as half man, half"}, {"start": "03:08:21", "end": "03:08:23", "text": "fish."}, {"start": "03:08:22", "end": "03:08:24", "text": ">> A mermaid."}, {"start": "03:08:23", "end": "03:08:26", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "03:08:24", "end": "03:08:27", "text": ">> Hey, ask him if he has a sister, will"}, {"start": "03:08:26", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "03:08:27", "end": "03:08:32", "text": ">> Aanas teaches the Samrians agriculture,"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "writing, law, and all knowledge crucial"}, {"start": "03:08:32", "end": "03:08:37", "text": "for civilization. Quaaddle, also"}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:40", "text": "associated with water, brought"}, {"start": "03:08:37", "end": "03:08:43", "text": "civilization to the Aztecs. In Egyptian,"}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:45", "text": "Polynesian, Japanese, Chinese, Norse,"}, {"start": "03:08:43", "end": "03:08:48", "text": "Hawaiian, Native American, there's a"}, {"start": "03:08:45", "end": "03:08:51", "text": "godlike teacher who comes from the sea"}, {"start": "03:08:48", "end": "03:08:53", "text": "to help restart civilization. And these"}, {"start": "03:08:51", "end": "03:08:55", "text": "saviors or teachers or whatever you want"}, {"start": "03:08:53", "end": "03:08:57", "text": "to call them, they all appear after the"}, {"start": "03:08:55", "end": "03:09:00", "text": "great flood at the end of the younger"}, {"start": "03:08:57", "end": "03:09:02", "text": "dus. And they all transfer wisdom and"}, {"start": "03:09:00", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "knowledge to the primitive people that"}, {"start": "03:09:02", "end": "03:09:08", "text": "they meet and restart civilization."}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:10", "text": "And there is more evidence. The cultures"}, {"start": "03:09:08", "end": "03:09:13", "text": "around the world seem to have been given"}, {"start": "03:09:10", "end": "03:09:15", "text": "the same knowledge."}, {"start": "03:09:13", "end": "03:09:17", "text": "For example, Sirius is the brightest"}, {"start": "03:09:15", "end": "03:09:19", "text": "star in the sky. Every culture knows"}, {"start": "03:09:17", "end": "03:09:22", "text": "about it. But every culture, new and"}, {"start": "03:09:19", "end": "03:09:25", "text": "old, refers to Sirius as a dog or a"}, {"start": "03:09:22", "end": "03:09:28", "text": "wolf. In ancient Iraq, Sirius was called"}, {"start": "03:09:25", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "the dog star that leads. In China, it"}, {"start": "03:09:28", "end": "03:09:32", "text": "was known as the heavenly wolf."}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:35", "text": "Assyrians and Aadians knew Sirius as the"}, {"start": "03:09:32", "end": "03:09:37", "text": "dog of the sun. And in North America,"}, {"start": "03:09:35", "end": "03:09:40", "text": "native tribes used largely canine"}, {"start": "03:09:37", "end": "03:09:42", "text": "terminology, like dog that follows"}, {"start": "03:09:40", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "mountain sheep or wolf star when"}, {"start": "03:09:42", "end": "03:09:46", "text": "referring to Sirius. Most cultures"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:49", "text": "holding a reverence for the brightest"}, {"start": "03:09:46", "end": "03:09:51", "text": "star in the sky is understandable. But"}, {"start": "03:09:49", "end": "03:09:54", "text": "all of them referring to the same star"}, {"start": "03:09:51", "end": "03:09:55", "text": "as a dog or a wolf, that seems like a"}, {"start": "03:09:54", "end": "03:09:57", "text": "big coincidence."}, {"start": "03:09:55", "end": "03:10:00", "text": ">> We don't believe in those."}, {"start": "03:09:57", "end": "03:10:03", "text": ">> We don't. And then seemingly out of"}, {"start": "03:10:00", "end": "03:10:06", "text": "nowhere, Bangkoka, a bustling city,"}, {"start": "03:10:03", "end": "03:10:07", "text": "appears in Turkey. Khanepe with its"}, {"start": "03:10:06", "end": "03:10:10", "text": "homes and halls and magnificent art"}, {"start": "03:10:07", "end": "03:10:13", "text": "appears. And Gobecletepe is built. An"}, {"start": "03:10:10", "end": "03:10:16", "text": "entire complex dedicated to the star"}, {"start": "03:10:13", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "Sirius. And within the complex, 10 ton"}, {"start": "03:10:16", "end": "03:10:21", "text": "stone pillars that tell the story of"}, {"start": "03:10:18", "end": "03:10:22", "text": "man, the fire from the sky, the flood"}, {"start": "03:10:21", "end": "03:10:26", "text": "that swallows the earth, and of"}, {"start": "03:10:22", "end": "03:10:28", "text": "civilization given a second chance. The"}, {"start": "03:10:26", "end": "03:10:31", "text": "pillars also offer a warning for future"}, {"start": "03:10:28", "end": "03:10:35", "text": "generations. For us, all that has"}, {"start": "03:10:31", "end": "03:10:38", "text": "happened before will happen again."}, {"start": "03:10:35", "end": "03:10:40", "text": "The builders gave us symbols on stones"}, {"start": "03:10:38", "end": "03:10:43", "text": "and told us to watch the sky. They"}, {"start": "03:10:40", "end": "03:10:45", "text": "showed us the constellations to study."}, {"start": "03:10:43", "end": "03:10:47", "text": "They gave us the exact date of the last"}, {"start": "03:10:45", "end": "03:10:50", "text": "disaster so we could prepare for the"}, {"start": "03:10:47", "end": "03:10:52", "text": "next one because there's always a next"}, {"start": "03:10:50", "end": "03:10:54", "text": "one. The images carved in the stone"}, {"start": "03:10:52", "end": "03:10:57", "text": "pillars could be a guide to ensure"}, {"start": "03:10:54", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "humanity's survival. But if all that's"}, {"start": "03:10:57", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "true, why was it all intentionally"}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:04", "text": "buried?"}, {"start": "03:11:02", "end": "03:11:07", "text": "Around 10,000 years ago, the people of"}, {"start": "03:11:04", "end": "03:11:10", "text": "Gobecée took up a massive project. They"}, {"start": "03:11:07", "end": "03:11:12", "text": "filled in the entire compound with stone"}, {"start": "03:11:10", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "and debris. Then they covered it with"}, {"start": "03:11:12", "end": "03:11:16", "text": "earth and mud to make it seem like it"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:19", "text": "was never there. There are two theories"}, {"start": "03:11:16", "end": "03:11:24", "text": "for why they did this. One, to preserve"}, {"start": "03:11:19", "end": "03:11:24", "text": "it, or two, to hide it."}, {"start": "03:11:28", "end": "03:11:32", "text": "An advanced society destroyed by an"}, {"start": "03:11:30", "end": "03:11:34", "text": "ancient cataclysm. The survivors venture"}, {"start": "03:11:32", "end": "03:11:36", "text": "out into the world, spreading wisdom and"}, {"start": "03:11:34", "end": "03:11:38", "text": "knowledge and sewing the seeds of"}, {"start": "03:11:36", "end": "03:11:40", "text": "civilization. Then, in an instant,"}, {"start": "03:11:38", "end": "03:11:43", "text": "agriculture explodes, cities are born,"}, {"start": "03:11:40", "end": "03:11:46", "text": "and a new era of man begins. Just not"}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:48", "text": "the first era of man. Not only is this a"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:51", "text": "great story, it's one of my favorite"}, {"start": "03:11:48", "end": "03:11:53", "text": "stories. I read Graham Hancock's book,"}, {"start": "03:11:51", "end": "03:11:55", "text": "Fingerprints of the Gods, in the 1990s,"}, {"start": "03:11:53", "end": "03:12:00", "text": "and I was hooked. I've been an ancient"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:12:00", "text": "civilization junkie ever since."}, {"start": "03:12:02", "end": "03:12:05", "text": "But is it true?"}, {"start": "03:12:09", "end": "03:12:13", "text": "Well, big archaeology says it's"}, {"start": "03:12:11", "end": "03:12:14", "text": "absolutely not true. But we've shown"}, {"start": "03:12:13", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "that lack of evidence is proof enough"}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:18", "text": "for the mainstream to say that something"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:20", "text": "never existed. Only when dragged,"}, {"start": "03:12:18", "end": "03:12:22", "text": "kicking and screaming to evidence of the"}, {"start": "03:12:20", "end": "03:12:24", "text": "great flood do they finally acknowledge"}, {"start": "03:12:22", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "it. And only when Gobeclete is"}, {"start": "03:12:24", "end": "03:12:28", "text": "discovered does the date of the first"}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "civilization get pushed back. Then"}, {"start": "03:12:28", "end": "03:12:33", "text": "Buklutar is found and the date changes"}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "again. And it may change again and"}, {"start": "03:12:33", "end": "03:12:37", "text": "again. So big archaeology was wrong"}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:39", "text": "about how advanced the people of the"}, {"start": "03:12:37", "end": "03:12:41", "text": "stone age were. They were clearly"}, {"start": "03:12:39", "end": "03:12:44", "text": "advanced enough to build monolithic"}, {"start": "03:12:41", "end": "03:12:46", "text": "monuments and huge complex cities. It"}, {"start": "03:12:44", "end": "03:12:48", "text": "appears as if this skill and technology"}, {"start": "03:12:46", "end": "03:12:51", "text": "comes out of nowhere. We don't see"}, {"start": "03:12:48", "end": "03:12:53", "text": "older, smaller structures that show an"}, {"start": "03:12:51", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "evolution of technology that leads to"}, {"start": "03:12:53", "end": "03:12:58", "text": "something as magnificent as Gobeclete."}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:01", "text": "The technology just appeared and it"}, {"start": "03:12:58", "end": "03:13:04", "text": "appeared at the end of the younger Dus"}, {"start": "03:13:01", "end": "03:13:06", "text": "after the great flood. So, it must be a"}, {"start": "03:13:04", "end": "03:13:08", "text": "transfer of technology from survivors of"}, {"start": "03:13:06", "end": "03:13:12", "text": "an ancient society whose civilization"}, {"start": "03:13:08", "end": "03:13:14", "text": "was lost beneath the waves. But let's be"}, {"start": "03:13:12", "end": "03:13:18", "text": "fair, there was an evolution of"}, {"start": "03:13:14", "end": "03:13:21", "text": "technology leading to Geekbecepe."}, {"start": "03:13:18", "end": "03:13:23", "text": "Nufian culture existed in the same area"}, {"start": "03:13:21", "end": "03:13:26", "text": "about 15,000 years ago. They were"}, {"start": "03:13:23", "end": "03:13:27", "text": "unusual in that they settled the area"}, {"start": "03:13:26", "end": "03:13:29", "text": "permanently. There's evidence of"}, {"start": "03:13:27", "end": "03:13:32", "text": "cemeteries, architecture, food"}, {"start": "03:13:29", "end": "03:13:34", "text": "production, animal domestication, and"}, {"start": "03:13:32", "end": "03:13:36", "text": "burials with elaborate mortuary"}, {"start": "03:13:34", "end": "03:13:39", "text": "treatments. The Nufians built organized"}, {"start": "03:13:36", "end": "03:13:43", "text": "stone structures decorated with art."}, {"start": "03:13:39", "end": "03:13:46", "text": "This is 2,000 years before Gobecletepe."}, {"start": "03:13:43", "end": "03:13:49", "text": "A Malaha was a Nufian settlement built"}, {"start": "03:13:46", "end": "03:13:51", "text": "around 12,000 years ago. They too used"}, {"start": "03:13:49", "end": "03:13:54", "text": "circular structures like those found at"}, {"start": "03:13:51", "end": "03:13:57", "text": "Gobecletepe. Pinatuian culture goes back"}, {"start": "03:13:54", "end": "03:13:59", "text": "to 23,000 years ago. Now, it's rare to"}, {"start": "03:13:57", "end": "03:14:02", "text": "find evidence of this culture, but it's"}, {"start": "03:13:59", "end": "03:14:04", "text": "not impossible. There are engravings,"}, {"start": "03:14:02", "end": "03:14:08", "text": "ornaments, and beads that are older than"}, {"start": "03:14:04", "end": "03:14:10", "text": "Gobecletepe, thousands of years older."}, {"start": "03:14:08", "end": "03:14:13", "text": "The monoliths at Gobecletepe are"}, {"start": "03:14:10", "end": "03:14:16", "text": "impressive. But the Nufians also created"}, {"start": "03:14:13", "end": "03:14:18", "text": "huge slabs of decorated limestone. Not"}, {"start": "03:14:16", "end": "03:14:21", "text": "as elaborate, but they were made with"}, {"start": "03:14:18", "end": "03:14:23", "text": "skill and craftsmanship. Cortik Teepe is"}, {"start": "03:14:21", "end": "03:14:26", "text": "another mound discovered in the Anatolia"}, {"start": "03:14:23", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "area of Turkey. Found there are pieces"}, {"start": "03:14:26", "end": "03:14:31", "text": "of very elaborate pottery, carvings,"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:35", "text": "jewelry, tools, and fishing hooks."}, {"start": "03:14:31", "end": "03:14:39", "text": "Cortep has been dated from 12,400 years"}, {"start": "03:14:35", "end": "03:14:41", "text": "ago to 11,700 years ago. So, not only"}, {"start": "03:14:39", "end": "03:14:43", "text": "older than Gobeclete, this settlement"}, {"start": "03:14:41", "end": "03:14:46", "text": "existed during the cold snap of the"}, {"start": "03:14:43", "end": "03:14:49", "text": "younger Dus. Now, it is worth noting"}, {"start": "03:14:46", "end": "03:14:51", "text": "that Cortepe disappears around the time"}, {"start": "03:14:49", "end": "03:14:54", "text": "of the flood, but before the flood,"}, {"start": "03:14:51", "end": "03:14:56", "text": "people lived there for a thousand years."}, {"start": "03:14:54", "end": "03:14:59", "text": "So, there is evidence of an evolution of"}, {"start": "03:14:56", "end": "03:15:01", "text": "technology, not just with jewelry and"}, {"start": "03:14:59", "end": "03:15:04", "text": "engraving, but even building large"}, {"start": "03:15:01", "end": "03:15:07", "text": "monoliths all thousands of years before"}, {"start": "03:15:04", "end": "03:15:07", "text": "Gobecletepe."}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:14", "text": "One of the great mysteries is why"}, {"start": "03:15:12", "end": "03:15:17", "text": "Gobecletepe was deliberately filled in."}, {"start": "03:15:14", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "Now, the working theory is the earlier"}, {"start": "03:15:17", "end": "03:15:22", "text": "structures were pretty big and dug into"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:24", "text": "a mound. An earthquake hit, knocked"}, {"start": "03:15:22", "end": "03:15:25", "text": "everything into the mound and made a"}, {"start": "03:15:24", "end": "03:15:27", "text": "mess of things. Then, everyone in the"}, {"start": "03:15:25", "end": "03:15:29", "text": "area filled in the rest of the hole and"}, {"start": "03:15:27", "end": "03:15:32", "text": "built newer, smaller structures around"}, {"start": "03:15:29", "end": "03:15:34", "text": "the older, larger ones. Structures that"}, {"start": "03:15:32", "end": "03:15:36", "text": "were designed to withstand earthquakes."}, {"start": "03:15:34", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "Now, no one really knows for sure, but"}, {"start": "03:15:36", "end": "03:15:40", "text": "it's a theory that makes sense to me."}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:43", "text": "And there are some issues with the dates"}, {"start": "03:15:40", "end": "03:15:47", "text": "as well. The date on pillar 43, the"}, {"start": "03:15:43", "end": "03:15:48", "text": "vulture stone, that's 13,000 years ago."}, {"start": "03:15:47", "end": "03:15:51", "text": "That doesn't line up with the end of the"}, {"start": "03:15:48", "end": "03:15:54", "text": "younger Dus. So, it's not describing the"}, {"start": "03:15:51", "end": "03:15:56", "text": "great flood. But that date does line up"}, {"start": "03:15:54", "end": "03:15:59", "text": "with the beginning of the younger Dryus."}, {"start": "03:15:56", "end": "03:16:02", "text": "Was there an impact at that time, too?"}, {"start": "03:15:59", "end": "03:16:04", "text": "Well, there probably was."}, {"start": "03:16:02", "end": "03:16:07", "text": "It's believed that the abrupt cooling"}, {"start": "03:16:04", "end": "03:16:09", "text": "13,000 years ago was caused by a series"}, {"start": "03:16:07", "end": "03:16:11", "text": "of events that happened at the same"}, {"start": "03:16:09", "end": "03:16:15", "text": "time. There are icecore samples that"}, {"start": "03:16:11", "end": "03:16:17", "text": "show an impact 12,887"}, {"start": "03:16:15", "end": "03:16:19", "text": "years ago and that date is accurate"}, {"start": "03:16:17", "end": "03:16:22", "text": "within 5 years. And this happened at the"}, {"start": "03:16:19", "end": "03:16:24", "text": "same time as a large volcanic eruption"}, {"start": "03:16:22", "end": "03:16:26", "text": "in Germany. This caused the earth to be"}, {"start": "03:16:24", "end": "03:16:29", "text": "covered in soot which caused years of"}, {"start": "03:16:26", "end": "03:16:30", "text": "darkness. Meanwhile, the impacts"}, {"start": "03:16:29", "end": "03:16:33", "text": "disrupted the ocean currents. So"}, {"start": "03:16:30", "end": "03:16:35", "text": "everything got cold again. Not as cold"}, {"start": "03:16:33", "end": "03:16:38", "text": "as before, but still cold. Then about a"}, {"start": "03:16:35", "end": "03:16:40", "text": "thousand years later, another event."}, {"start": "03:16:38", "end": "03:16:42", "text": "Maybe another impact. Maybe a massive"}, {"start": "03:16:40", "end": "03:16:44", "text": "solar event. We don't really know for"}, {"start": "03:16:42", "end": "03:16:47", "text": "sure, but something did happen to warm"}, {"start": "03:16:44", "end": "03:16:49", "text": "the Earth and melt the ice caps really"}, {"start": "03:16:47", "end": "03:16:52", "text": "fast. We do have evidence of cultures"}, {"start": "03:16:49", "end": "03:16:55", "text": "that existed before, during, and after"}, {"start": "03:16:52", "end": "03:16:57", "text": "the younger dryness. Now, did we debunk"}, {"start": "03:16:55", "end": "03:17:00", "text": "the idea of an advanced culture before"}, {"start": "03:16:57", "end": "03:17:02", "text": "that? Absolutely not. I'm just trying to"}, {"start": "03:17:00", "end": "03:17:04", "text": "give you the full picture. There"}, {"start": "03:17:02", "end": "03:17:07", "text": "absolutely could have been someone else"}, {"start": "03:17:04", "end": "03:17:08", "text": "here long ago. And we've talked before"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:11", "text": "about how it would take only about"}, {"start": "03:17:08", "end": "03:17:14", "text": "10,000 years before all evidence of the"}, {"start": "03:17:11", "end": "03:17:16", "text": "human race is gone. But here's the thing"}, {"start": "03:17:14", "end": "03:17:19", "text": "about that number. Civilization"}, {"start": "03:17:16", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "disappearing in 10,000 years assumes the"}, {"start": "03:17:19", "end": "03:17:24", "text": "Earth is peaceful. If one of these years"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:26", "text": "the torid meteor shower threw a rock at"}, {"start": "03:17:24", "end": "03:17:28", "text": "us like it did during the younger dryus,"}, {"start": "03:17:26", "end": "03:17:32", "text": "well, it wouldn't take 10,000 years to"}, {"start": "03:17:28", "end": "03:17:35", "text": "erase our civilization, we'd be gone in"}, {"start": "03:17:32", "end": "03:17:35", "text": "a day."}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:42", "text": "Here's how it happens. It's a brisk"}, {"start": "03:17:39", "end": "03:17:44", "text": "November evening. Maybe this year, maybe"}, {"start": "03:17:42", "end": "03:17:46", "text": "20 years from now, it doesn't matter."}, {"start": "03:17:44", "end": "03:17:48", "text": "Every November, the Earth passes through"}, {"start": "03:17:46", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "the torid meteor cloud and the Earth's"}, {"start": "03:17:48", "end": "03:17:52", "text": "sky lights up. People gather all over"}, {"start": "03:17:50", "end": "03:17:55", "text": "the world to see the event. Meteor"}, {"start": "03:17:52", "end": "03:17:57", "text": "watching parties are common. You and a"}, {"start": "03:17:55", "end": "03:17:59", "text": "few friends decide to get together and"}, {"start": "03:17:57", "end": "03:18:02", "text": "see the show. The sky does not"}, {"start": "03:17:59", "end": "03:18:04", "text": "disappoint. Shooting stars zip across"}, {"start": "03:18:02", "end": "03:18:06", "text": "the night sky like fireflies. There are"}, {"start": "03:18:04", "end": "03:18:09", "text": "even larger comets that streak by for a"}, {"start": "03:18:06", "end": "03:18:11", "text": "full second or two before burning out."}, {"start": "03:18:09", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "And once in a while, a big one. It's a"}, {"start": "03:18:11", "end": "03:18:16", "text": "fireball that lights up the sky. And for"}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:18", "text": "a moment, night turns to day. Now,"}, {"start": "03:18:16", "end": "03:18:20", "text": "everyone's heart races. But fireballs"}, {"start": "03:18:18", "end": "03:18:22", "text": "like these are known to happen during"}, {"start": "03:18:20", "end": "03:18:25", "text": "the torid shower. People remember the"}, {"start": "03:18:22", "end": "03:18:28", "text": "torids of 2015. That year, fireballs hit"}, {"start": "03:18:25", "end": "03:18:31", "text": "the earth in swarms. In 2020, a torid"}, {"start": "03:18:28", "end": "03:18:33", "text": "fireball exploded over Japan that"}, {"start": "03:18:31", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "sounded like a bomb going off. That one"}, {"start": "03:18:33", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "set off car alarms for miles."}, {"start": "03:18:41", "end": "03:18:46", "text": "You continue to watch the sky and notice"}, {"start": "03:18:43", "end": "03:18:49", "text": "the shooting stars getting denser,"}, {"start": "03:18:46", "end": "03:18:52", "text": "thicker, then a fireball, then another."}, {"start": "03:18:49", "end": "03:18:54", "text": "You feel a little anxiety, but the torid"}, {"start": "03:18:52", "end": "03:18:56", "text": "meteors have been happening your whole"}, {"start": "03:18:54", "end": "03:18:59", "text": "life, and they've been nothing more than"}, {"start": "03:18:56", "end": "03:19:01", "text": "a light show, then another fireball."}, {"start": "03:18:59", "end": "03:19:04", "text": "This one looks like it's close. It"}, {"start": "03:19:01", "end": "03:19:06", "text": "vaporizes in a flash of light so bright"}, {"start": "03:19:04", "end": "03:19:08", "text": "that you have to shield your eyes. You"}, {"start": "03:19:06", "end": "03:19:11", "text": "and your group of sky watchers giggle"}, {"start": "03:19:08", "end": "03:19:14", "text": "nervously. Then 3 seconds later, a"}, {"start": "03:19:11", "end": "03:19:16", "text": "crack, then a boom. So loud you feel it"}, {"start": "03:19:14", "end": "03:19:19", "text": "in your stomach. Everyone agrees. This"}, {"start": "03:19:16", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "was fun, but let's go home. But now"}, {"start": "03:19:19", "end": "03:19:25", "text": "there's another fireball. Everyone turns"}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:27", "text": "to see. This one is different. It's not"}, {"start": "03:19:25", "end": "03:19:30", "text": "really streaking across the sky. It's"}, {"start": "03:19:27", "end": "03:19:33", "text": "expanding somehow. No, it's not"}, {"start": "03:19:30", "end": "03:19:36", "text": "expanding. It's coming closer. It comes"}, {"start": "03:19:33", "end": "03:19:38", "text": "closer and closer. And there's no way to"}, {"start": "03:19:36", "end": "03:19:40", "text": "tell how big it is. From where you're"}, {"start": "03:19:38", "end": "03:19:43", "text": "standing, it's like a mountain made of"}, {"start": "03:19:40", "end": "03:19:46", "text": "fire. Just as panic sets in, it"}, {"start": "03:19:43", "end": "03:19:48", "text": "disappears somewhere over the horizon."}, {"start": "03:19:46", "end": "03:19:50", "text": "You let out a deep sigh. You didn't"}, {"start": "03:19:48", "end": "03:19:52", "text": "realize it, but for the past 30 seconds,"}, {"start": "03:19:50", "end": "03:19:54", "text": "you've been holding your breath. You and"}, {"start": "03:19:52", "end": "03:19:56", "text": "your group are now frantically gathering"}, {"start": "03:19:54", "end": "03:19:58", "text": "your belongings. That was more than"}, {"start": "03:19:56", "end": "03:20:00", "text": "enough excitement for one evening. You"}, {"start": "03:19:58", "end": "03:20:02", "text": "even ask yourself if you even want to do"}, {"start": "03:20:00", "end": "03:20:05", "text": "this again next year. But that question"}, {"start": "03:20:02", "end": "03:20:07", "text": "has already been answered for you. You"}, {"start": "03:20:05", "end": "03:20:10", "text": "just didn't know it yet. Over the"}, {"start": "03:20:07", "end": "03:20:13", "text": "horizon, where the fireball disappeared,"}, {"start": "03:20:10", "end": "03:20:15", "text": "a ball of light emerges. Everything is"}, {"start": "03:20:13", "end": "03:20:18", "text": "lit up like the day. No, brighter than"}, {"start": "03:20:15", "end": "03:20:21", "text": "that. It's so bright, everything is just"}, {"start": "03:20:18", "end": "03:20:23", "text": "white. The ball of white light grows"}, {"start": "03:20:21", "end": "03:20:25", "text": "larger and larger. And you feel"}, {"start": "03:20:23", "end": "03:20:27", "text": "something deep in your brain. That part"}, {"start": "03:20:25", "end": "03:20:30", "text": "of your brain that evolved 2 million"}, {"start": "03:20:27", "end": "03:20:37", "text": "years ago, that blizzard brain, it sends"}, {"start": "03:20:30", "end": "03:20:37", "text": "you a single message. Run. You run."}, {"start": "03:20:39", "end": "03:20:45", "text": "About 3,000 miles away, there has been"}, {"start": "03:20:42", "end": "03:20:47", "text": "an event. The meteor hits and vaporizes"}, {"start": "03:20:45", "end": "03:20:51", "text": "everything around the impact point for"}, {"start": "03:20:47", "end": "03:20:54", "text": "miles. Water, rock, cities, all vanish."}, {"start": "03:20:51", "end": "03:20:56", "text": "Then the shock waves start. Earthquakes"}, {"start": "03:20:54", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "radiate out from the impact point over"}, {"start": "03:20:56", "end": "03:21:01", "text": "and over again as the earth reverberates"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:03", "text": "like a bell. These earthquakes move"}, {"start": "03:21:01", "end": "03:21:06", "text": "faster than the speed of sound. They're"}, {"start": "03:21:03", "end": "03:21:08", "text": "so powerful they disrupt the tectonic"}, {"start": "03:21:06", "end": "03:21:09", "text": "plates of the earth. That sets off a"}, {"start": "03:21:08", "end": "03:21:13", "text": "chain reaction of earthquakes and"}, {"start": "03:21:09", "end": "03:21:15", "text": "volcanoes across every major fault line."}, {"start": "03:21:13", "end": "03:21:17", "text": "Forget LA and San Francisco. The San"}, {"start": "03:21:15", "end": "03:21:20", "text": "Andreas will either eat or burn the"}, {"start": "03:21:17", "end": "03:21:22", "text": "entire California coast. Then you've got"}, {"start": "03:21:20", "end": "03:21:24", "text": "the Cascadia subduction zone in the"}, {"start": "03:21:22", "end": "03:21:26", "text": "Pacific Northwest. The Hayward fault,"}, {"start": "03:21:24", "end": "03:21:29", "text": "the Calaveris fault, the Garlock, the"}, {"start": "03:21:26", "end": "03:21:32", "text": "Wasach. They all erupt. From western"}, {"start": "03:21:29", "end": "03:21:35", "text": "Canada to Baja Mexico is leveled."}, {"start": "03:21:32", "end": "03:21:37", "text": "Everything within 20 miles of the coast"}, {"start": "03:21:35", "end": "03:21:40", "text": "crumbles into the sea. Then the shock"}, {"start": "03:21:37", "end": "03:21:43", "text": "waves roll back around the planet again"}, {"start": "03:21:40", "end": "03:21:45", "text": "and again and again. The biggest fault"}, {"start": "03:21:43", "end": "03:21:48", "text": "system in the United States is the New"}, {"start": "03:21:45", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "Madrid seismic zone. The most powerful"}, {"start": "03:21:48", "end": "03:21:53", "text": "earthquakes in US history have come from"}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:56", "text": "here. When that fault goes, say goodbye"}, {"start": "03:21:53", "end": "03:21:59", "text": "to Chicago, Indianapolis, St. Louis, and"}, {"start": "03:21:56", "end": "03:22:01", "text": "down to New Orleans. All gone, crumbled,"}, {"start": "03:21:59", "end": "03:22:03", "text": "on fire or underwater. The New Madrid"}, {"start": "03:22:01", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "fault connects to the Ramapo fault in"}, {"start": "03:22:03", "end": "03:22:09", "text": "the east and sets it off like a fuse."}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:10", "text": "Ramapo extends through Pennsylvania, New"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:12", "text": "York, and New Jersey. Then the"}, {"start": "03:22:10", "end": "03:22:16", "text": "Charleston fault in South Carolina goes"}, {"start": "03:22:12", "end": "03:22:18", "text": "next. From Boston to Seattle, from Maine"}, {"start": "03:22:16", "end": "03:22:21", "text": "to Miami, and everything in between,"}, {"start": "03:22:18", "end": "03:22:23", "text": "earthquakes rock the country over and"}, {"start": "03:22:21", "end": "03:22:26", "text": "over again. And this is happening"}, {"start": "03:22:23", "end": "03:22:29", "text": "everywhere in the world. Then comes the"}, {"start": "03:22:26", "end": "03:22:33", "text": "wind. A category 5 hurricane has wind"}, {"start": "03:22:29", "end": "03:22:35", "text": "speeds of 150 to 160 mph. A Cat 5"}, {"start": "03:22:33", "end": "03:22:38", "text": "hurricane is going to seem like a gentle"}, {"start": "03:22:35", "end": "03:22:42", "text": "afternoon. Rushing around the planet is"}, {"start": "03:22:38", "end": "03:22:44", "text": "a storm with winds over 1,000 mph. This"}, {"start": "03:22:42", "end": "03:22:48", "text": "is called the air blast. Anything wooden"}, {"start": "03:22:44", "end": "03:22:50", "text": "is gone. Cars, boats, people, all gone."}, {"start": "03:22:48", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "Only the sturdiest stone structures"}, {"start": "03:22:50", "end": "03:22:54", "text": "could survive the wind. But most stone"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:56", "text": "structures have already been turned to"}, {"start": "03:22:54", "end": "03:22:59", "text": "rubble by the earthquakes. In some"}, {"start": "03:22:56", "end": "03:23:02", "text": "places, the wind lasts for 16 hours. And"}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:05", "text": "within the wind is everything."}, {"start": "03:23:02", "end": "03:23:07", "text": "Buildings, cars, trees, everything. It's"}, {"start": "03:23:05", "end": "03:23:10", "text": "a food processor that pulverizes"}, {"start": "03:23:07", "end": "03:23:13", "text": "everything for hours."}, {"start": "03:23:10", "end": "03:23:16", "text": "What happens next goes one of two ways."}, {"start": "03:23:13", "end": "03:23:18", "text": "Option one, the rock hits solid earth."}, {"start": "03:23:16", "end": "03:23:21", "text": "Now, if that happens, heat and ejecta"}, {"start": "03:23:18", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "cause wildfires for thousands of miles"}, {"start": "03:23:21", "end": "03:23:26", "text": "around the impact point. Radiating out"}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:29", "text": "from the center is a fireball moving at"}, {"start": "03:23:26", "end": "03:23:32", "text": "twice the speed of sound. This fireball"}, {"start": "03:23:29", "end": "03:23:34", "text": "is hotter than the surface of the sun. A"}, {"start": "03:23:32", "end": "03:23:37", "text": "land impact also launches millions and"}, {"start": "03:23:34", "end": "03:23:39", "text": "millions of tons of ejecta into the"}, {"start": "03:23:37", "end": "03:23:42", "text": "atmosphere. In fact, millions of tons of"}, {"start": "03:23:39", "end": "03:23:44", "text": "molten rock will leave the atmosphere"}, {"start": "03:23:42", "end": "03:23:47", "text": "and go into space. The rock cools and"}, {"start": "03:23:44", "end": "03:23:50", "text": "forms a shell of debris in orbit around"}, {"start": "03:23:47", "end": "03:23:52", "text": "the Earth. No more space station, no"}, {"start": "03:23:50", "end": "03:23:54", "text": "more satellites. The ejecta that remains"}, {"start": "03:23:52", "end": "03:23:57", "text": "in the atmosphere blocks out the sun for"}, {"start": "03:23:54", "end": "03:23:59", "text": "months. But it only takes a few days for"}, {"start": "03:23:57", "end": "03:24:02", "text": "plant life to start dying. The entire"}, {"start": "03:23:59", "end": "03:24:04", "text": "food chain is disrupted within a week"}, {"start": "03:24:02", "end": "03:24:08", "text": "and completely collapses in a month. All"}, {"start": "03:24:04", "end": "03:24:12", "text": "food is gone. And that's a land impact."}, {"start": "03:24:08", "end": "03:24:15", "text": "Option two is an ocean impact. This is"}, {"start": "03:24:12", "end": "03:24:15", "text": "probably worse."}, {"start": "03:24:17", "end": "03:24:21", "text": "The rock hits, vaporizes the ocean"}, {"start": "03:24:19", "end": "03:24:24", "text": "water, and collides with the bedrock."}, {"start": "03:24:21", "end": "03:24:26", "text": "The earthquakes begin like before, but"}, {"start": "03:24:24", "end": "03:24:29", "text": "what's really dramatic is the tsunami,"}, {"start": "03:24:26", "end": "03:24:31", "text": "but it's much more than a tsunami. More"}, {"start": "03:24:29", "end": "03:24:34", "text": "than a mega tsunami. What this is,"}, {"start": "03:24:31", "end": "03:24:37", "text": "there's really no name for it. A wall of"}, {"start": "03:24:34", "end": "03:24:39", "text": "water rises about a mile and a half in"}, {"start": "03:24:37", "end": "03:24:41", "text": "the air. The water would be higher than"}, {"start": "03:24:39", "end": "03:24:44", "text": "the clouds if there were clouds. The"}, {"start": "03:24:41", "end": "03:24:46", "text": "shock waves and air blast dissipated all"}, {"start": "03:24:44", "end": "03:24:49", "text": "the clouds, leaving only dark streaks of"}, {"start": "03:24:46", "end": "03:24:52", "text": "smoke that turn the sky blood red. The"}, {"start": "03:24:49", "end": "03:24:55", "text": "wall of water extends in all directions."}, {"start": "03:24:52", "end": "03:24:58", "text": "It moves at 500 mph. By the time it"}, {"start": "03:24:55", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "makes landfall, it's even higher. As the"}, {"start": "03:24:58", "end": "03:25:03", "text": "water tears across the land, it collects"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:05", "text": "debris. Every object the water touches"}, {"start": "03:25:03", "end": "03:25:08", "text": "is captured and becomes part of the"}, {"start": "03:25:05", "end": "03:25:10", "text": "wave. Within minutes, the front face of"}, {"start": "03:25:08", "end": "03:25:13", "text": "the wall is a solid mass of debris"}, {"start": "03:25:10", "end": "03:25:16", "text": "moving hundreds of miles per hour. The"}, {"start": "03:25:13", "end": "03:25:19", "text": "devastation is extreme. As the Earth"}, {"start": "03:25:16", "end": "03:25:21", "text": "reverberates, the secondary waves begin."}, {"start": "03:25:19", "end": "03:25:23", "text": "These are smaller waves compared to the"}, {"start": "03:25:21", "end": "03:25:26", "text": "first, but they're still hundreds of"}, {"start": "03:25:23", "end": "03:25:30", "text": "feet high, and they pummel the coasts"}, {"start": "03:25:26", "end": "03:25:33", "text": "over and over and over again."}, {"start": "03:25:30", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "About 24 hours later, the Earth settles."}, {"start": "03:25:33", "end": "03:25:37", "text": "Volcanoes continue to erupt and there"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:40", "text": "are thousands of earthquake aftershocks,"}, {"start": "03:25:37", "end": "03:25:43", "text": "but most of the violence is over. This"}, {"start": "03:25:40", "end": "03:25:46", "text": "is the worst day in human history."}, {"start": "03:25:43", "end": "03:25:49", "text": "But here's what's really scary. The"}, {"start": "03:25:46", "end": "03:25:51", "text": "scenario I just described has happened"}, {"start": "03:25:49", "end": "03:25:53", "text": "many times. So a question for the"}, {"start": "03:25:51", "end": "03:25:55", "text": "skeptics, how much evidence of human"}, {"start": "03:25:53", "end": "03:25:58", "text": "civilization would be left after this"}, {"start": "03:25:55", "end": "03:26:00", "text": "type of event? Skeptics say there would"}, {"start": "03:25:58", "end": "03:26:04", "text": "be evidence of trash, plastic, and"}, {"start": "03:26:00", "end": "03:26:06", "text": "steel. But would there after the comet"}, {"start": "03:26:04", "end": "03:26:09", "text": "strike, the fireball, the shock waves,"}, {"start": "03:26:06", "end": "03:26:11", "text": "the 1,000 mph wind, the string of mega"}, {"start": "03:26:09", "end": "03:26:13", "text": "tsunamis, I'm not sure how much of"}, {"start": "03:26:11", "end": "03:26:14", "text": "anything would be left after that. Now,"}, {"start": "03:26:13", "end": "03:26:16", "text": "you would think that this event would"}, {"start": "03:26:14", "end": "03:26:18", "text": "leave a mess of debris across the"}, {"start": "03:26:16", "end": "03:26:22", "text": "landscape, but it would be nothing like"}, {"start": "03:26:18", "end": "03:26:25", "text": "that. The land would be pristine. Well,"}, {"start": "03:26:22", "end": "03:26:29", "text": "pristine in a way. From horizon to"}, {"start": "03:26:25", "end": "03:26:31", "text": "horizon is mud. Nothing but mud."}, {"start": "03:26:29", "end": "03:26:34", "text": "Everything has been pulverized into"}, {"start": "03:26:31", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "dust. Any object larger than a"}, {"start": "03:26:34", "end": "03:26:40", "text": "basketball is buried under mud 1,000 ft"}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:41", "text": "deep. Big archaeology says there was no"}, {"start": "03:26:40", "end": "03:26:44", "text": "early civilization because they haven't"}, {"start": "03:26:41", "end": "03:26:48", "text": "found one. Or maybe they just haven't"}, {"start": "03:26:44", "end": "03:26:48", "text": "dug deep enough."}, {"start": "03:26:54", "end": "03:26:58", "text": "There is evidence of an ancient advanced"}, {"start": "03:26:56", "end": "03:27:00", "text": "civilization in myths and legends from"}, {"start": "03:26:58", "end": "03:27:02", "text": "cultures around the world. Not just"}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:05", "text": "evidence that a civilization was here,"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "but also how it was destroyed."}, {"start": "03:27:05", "end": "03:27:09", "text": "The book of Revelation describes events"}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:11", "text": "that could be interpreted as impacts."}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:14", "text": "And I beheld when he had opened the"}, {"start": "03:27:11", "end": "03:27:17", "text": "sixth seal, and lo, there was a great"}, {"start": "03:27:14", "end": "03:27:20", "text": "earthquake, and the sun became black as"}, {"start": "03:27:17", "end": "03:27:23", "text": "sackcloth of hair, and the moon became"}, {"start": "03:27:20", "end": "03:27:25", "text": "as blood. And the stars of heaven fell"}, {"start": "03:27:23", "end": "03:27:28", "text": "unto the earth, even as a fig tree"}, {"start": "03:27:25", "end": "03:27:30", "text": "casteth her untimely figs, when she's"}, {"start": "03:27:28", "end": "03:27:33", "text": "shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven"}, {"start": "03:27:30", "end": "03:27:35", "text": "departed as a scroll, when it is rolled"}, {"start": "03:27:33", "end": "03:27:38", "text": "together, and every mountain and island"}, {"start": "03:27:35", "end": "03:27:40", "text": "were moved out of their places."}, {"start": "03:27:38", "end": "03:27:42", "text": "Revelation 6."}, {"start": "03:27:40", "end": "03:27:45", "text": ">> That sounds exactly like the impact I"}, {"start": "03:27:42", "end": "03:27:47", "text": "described earlier. The stars fall to the"}, {"start": "03:27:45", "end": "03:27:49", "text": "earth, the darkness, the mighty wind and"}, {"start": "03:27:47", "end": "03:27:52", "text": "earthquake strong enough to move"}, {"start": "03:27:49", "end": "03:27:53", "text": "mountains. In Indian texts, the Vadus"}, {"start": "03:27:52", "end": "03:27:55", "text": "and the Mahabarata, they contain"}, {"start": "03:27:53", "end": "03:27:58", "text": "descriptions of celestial events and"}, {"start": "03:27:55", "end": "03:28:01", "text": "weapons that have been interpreted as a"}, {"start": "03:27:58", "end": "03:28:03", "text": "comet or meteor impacts."}, {"start": "03:28:01", "end": "03:28:06", "text": "Gigantic elephants burnt by that weapon"}, {"start": "03:28:03", "end": "03:28:09", "text": "fell all around, uttering fierce cries,"}, {"start": "03:28:06", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "loud as those of the clouds. Other huge"}, {"start": "03:28:09", "end": "03:28:14", "text": "elephants, scorched by that fire, ran"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:16", "text": "hither and thither and roared aloud in"}, {"start": "03:28:14", "end": "03:28:21", "text": "fear as if in the midst of a forest"}, {"start": "03:28:16", "end": "03:28:23", "text": "conflration. Mahabharata, book seven."}, {"start": "03:28:21", "end": "03:28:26", "text": ">> That sounds like molten ejecta hitting"}, {"start": "03:28:23", "end": "03:28:29", "text": "the earth and setting everything on"}, {"start": "03:28:26", "end": "03:28:31", "text": "fire, just like we'd expect. The Lasco"}, {"start": "03:28:29", "end": "03:28:34", "text": "caves in France are some of the most"}, {"start": "03:28:31", "end": "03:28:36", "text": "famous cave art ever found. One drawing"}, {"start": "03:28:34", "end": "03:28:39", "text": "called the shaft scene features a dying"}, {"start": "03:28:36", "end": "03:28:42", "text": "man and several animals. Researchers now"}, {"start": "03:28:39", "end": "03:28:45", "text": "say this describes a comet strike around"}, {"start": "03:28:42", "end": "03:28:47", "text": "15,200 BC."}, {"start": "03:28:45", "end": "03:28:50", "text": "Petroglyphs all over the world depict"}, {"start": "03:28:47", "end": "03:28:52", "text": "celestial objects with multiple tails."}, {"start": "03:28:50", "end": "03:28:55", "text": "These have been suggested to represent"}, {"start": "03:28:52", "end": "03:28:58", "text": "the torid meteor swarm. This petroglyph"}, {"start": "03:28:55", "end": "03:29:01", "text": "from Forsythe County, Georgia is a star"}, {"start": "03:28:58", "end": "03:29:05", "text": "map. It suggests a comet impact event in"}, {"start": "03:29:01", "end": "03:29:08", "text": "536 AD. Icecore samples from Greenland"}, {"start": "03:29:05", "end": "03:29:11", "text": "confirm an impact sometime between 533"}, {"start": "03:29:08", "end": "03:29:13", "text": "and 540. That impact had global"}, {"start": "03:29:11", "end": "03:29:17", "text": "ramifications and cooled the Earth over"}, {"start": "03:29:13", "end": "03:29:19", "text": "5°. There are more examples of impacts,"}, {"start": "03:29:17", "end": "03:29:21", "text": "and these are just the most obvious"}, {"start": "03:29:19", "end": "03:29:23", "text": "ones. And notice that they're not all"}, {"start": "03:29:21", "end": "03:29:25", "text": "from thousands of years ago. Some are"}, {"start": "03:29:23", "end": "03:29:28", "text": "from just hundreds of years ago. The"}, {"start": "03:29:25", "end": "03:29:30", "text": "Tongusa event in 1908 is thought to be a"}, {"start": "03:29:28", "end": "03:29:33", "text": "torid meteor that strayed from the"}, {"start": "03:29:30", "end": "03:29:35", "text": "debris field. These impacts happen"}, {"start": "03:29:33", "end": "03:29:37", "text": "periodically and they usually happen in"}, {"start": "03:29:35", "end": "03:29:39", "text": "the autumn when we cross the torid"}, {"start": "03:29:37", "end": "03:29:41", "text": "debris field. And maybe that's the story"}, {"start": "03:29:39", "end": "03:29:44", "text": "being told on the vulture stone at"}, {"start": "03:29:41", "end": "03:29:46", "text": "Gobecletepe. Not the story of what"}, {"start": "03:29:44", "end": "03:29:48", "text": "happened in the past, but the potential"}, {"start": "03:29:46", "end": "03:29:51", "text": "danger we face right now. The torid"}, {"start": "03:29:48", "end": "03:29:53", "text": "comets come every year September to"}, {"start": "03:29:51", "end": "03:29:55", "text": "November. This year, the torid comets"}, {"start": "03:29:53", "end": "03:29:58", "text": "peak on November 6th. You can see them"}, {"start": "03:29:55", "end": "03:30:00", "text": "for yourself. Now, sure, most of them"}, {"start": "03:29:58", "end": "03:30:01", "text": "look like shooting stars, but some of"}, {"start": "03:30:00", "end": "03:30:04", "text": "them are fireballs that light up the"}, {"start": "03:30:01", "end": "03:30:06", "text": "entire sky. Now, why does big"}, {"start": "03:30:04", "end": "03:30:09", "text": "archaeology and every world government"}, {"start": "03:30:06", "end": "03:30:12", "text": "discount this story? Because there's not"}, {"start": "03:30:09", "end": "03:30:14", "text": "a thing they can do about it. Every time"}, {"start": "03:30:12", "end": "03:30:16", "text": "we pass through the tour Comet Cloud,"}, {"start": "03:30:14", "end": "03:30:19", "text": "we're playing Russian roulette. Every"}, {"start": "03:30:16", "end": "03:30:21", "text": "year, a new spin of the chamber, a new"}, {"start": "03:30:19", "end": "03:30:23", "text": "pull of the trigger. Now, chances are"}, {"start": "03:30:21", "end": "03:30:25", "text": "when we pull the trigger, all we hear is"}, {"start": "03:30:23", "end": "03:30:28", "text": "a click. But there are objects in the"}, {"start": "03:30:25", "end": "03:30:30", "text": "torid cloud that are a mile wide. So,"}, {"start": "03:30:28", "end": "03:30:33", "text": "even though the chance is small, there"}, {"start": "03:30:30", "end": "03:30:36", "text": "is a chance, a real chance, that one of"}, {"start": "03:30:33", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "those objects will find its way to us."}, {"start": "03:30:36", "end": "03:30:41", "text": "And when that happens, our civilization"}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:43", "text": "ends once again. And there will be only"}, {"start": "03:30:41", "end": "03:30:45", "text": "a handful of survivors. The few people"}, {"start": "03:30:43", "end": "03:30:47", "text": "lucky enough to hide in mountain caves."}, {"start": "03:30:45", "end": "03:30:49", "text": "And maybe those survivors will create"}, {"start": "03:30:47", "end": "03:30:52", "text": "cave paintings or rock carvings"}, {"start": "03:30:49", "end": "03:30:54", "text": "describing this worldending event."}, {"start": "03:30:52", "end": "03:30:57", "text": "However they do it, they'll want to tell"}, {"start": "03:30:54", "end": "03:30:58", "text": "our story, and it's an important one."}, {"start": "03:30:57", "end": "03:31:01", "text": "Every year, we take our chance with the"}, {"start": "03:30:58", "end": "03:31:03", "text": "Torids. One year we're going to lose."}, {"start": "03:31:01", "end": "03:31:06", "text": "Then the only thing left of us, our"}, {"start": "03:31:03", "end": "03:31:10", "text": "entire civilization, will be one more"}, {"start": "03:31:06", "end": "03:31:10", "text": "very short story."}, {"start": "03:31:15", "end": "03:31:21", "text": "Okie dokie, little Smokey. The next one"}, {"start": "03:31:17", "end": "03:31:25", "text": "comes from Ryan. So, Ryan is another one"}, {"start": "03:31:21", "end": "03:31:29", "text": "of my editors. He chose Oh, you got to"}, {"start": "03:31:25", "end": "03:31:31", "text": "be kidding me. Seriously, dude."}, {"start": "03:31:29", "end": "03:31:34", "text": "Ryan chose the episode about the Lerta"}, {"start": "03:31:31", "end": "03:31:36", "text": "Files. You know why he chose that one?"}, {"start": "03:31:34", "end": "03:31:39", "text": "Because the aliens a freaking smoke"}, {"start": "03:31:36", "end": "03:31:41", "text": "show. That's right. My editor has a"}, {"start": "03:31:39", "end": "03:31:43", "text": "thing for aliens. Look, I'm not going to"}, {"start": "03:31:41", "end": "03:31:45", "text": "kink shame. It's not like I haven't had"}, {"start": "03:31:43", "end": "03:31:48", "text": "a little extraterrestrial crush now and"}, {"start": "03:31:45", "end": "03:31:52", "text": "then. Hey, what happens on Zeta Reticuli"}, {"start": "03:31:48", "end": "03:31:55", "text": "stays on Zeta Reticuli. You dig me? And"}, {"start": "03:31:52", "end": "03:31:58", "text": "now the Lerta files."}, {"start": "03:31:55", "end": "03:31:58", "text": "Roll it."}, {"start": "03:32:00", "end": "03:32:06", "text": "On December 16th, 1999, three things"}, {"start": "03:32:04", "end": "03:32:09", "text": "happened in Old K's office. His pencil"}, {"start": "03:32:06", "end": "03:32:12", "text": "levitated. His coffee froze solid. And"}, {"start": "03:32:09", "end": "03:32:15", "text": "the woman sitting across from him wasn't"}, {"start": "03:32:12", "end": "03:32:17", "text": "human. K had built his career debunking"}, {"start": "03:32:15", "end": "03:32:19", "text": "every alien story, every paranormal"}, {"start": "03:32:17", "end": "03:32:21", "text": "claim, every supernatural sighting. He'd"}, {"start": "03:32:19", "end": "03:32:23", "text": "seen every trick. He knew every"}, {"start": "03:32:21", "end": "03:32:25", "text": "technique. His articles had ruined"}, {"start": "03:32:23", "end": "03:32:28", "text": "careers and earned him a reputation as a"}, {"start": "03:32:25", "end": "03:32:31", "text": "tough professional skeptic. But now his"}, {"start": "03:32:28", "end": "03:32:32", "text": "pencil was floating above his desk. The"}, {"start": "03:32:31", "end": "03:32:35", "text": "being across from him called herself"}, {"start": "03:32:32", "end": "03:32:38", "text": "Lucerta. She told him how humanity was"}, {"start": "03:32:35", "end": "03:32:40", "text": "created and how it would end. and she"}, {"start": "03:32:38", "end": "03:32:42", "text": "could prove it. The world's most"}, {"start": "03:32:40", "end": "03:32:44", "text": "notorious UFO skeptic was about to"}, {"start": "03:32:42", "end": "03:32:47", "text": "understand why some stories can't be"}, {"start": "03:32:44", "end": "03:32:47", "text": "debunked."}, {"start": "03:32:54", "end": "03:32:57", "text": "K arrived early to set up his equipment."}, {"start": "03:32:56", "end": "03:33:00", "text": "One camera, one tape recorder. That's"}, {"start": "03:32:57", "end": "03:33:02", "text": "all Lerta allowed. Every hoaxer had"}, {"start": "03:33:00", "end": "03:33:04", "text": "rules. He didn't argue. He figured he'd"}, {"start": "03:33:02", "end": "03:33:06", "text": "be out in an hour. The story was"}, {"start": "03:33:04", "end": "03:33:08", "text": "obviously fake. Lerta claimed to be from"}, {"start": "03:33:06", "end": "03:33:09", "text": "a race of beings living deep within the"}, {"start": "03:33:08", "end": "03:33:10", "text": "earth."}, {"start": "03:33:09", "end": "03:33:12", "text": ">> Lizard."}, {"start": "03:33:10", "end": "03:33:13", "text": ">> Some say they're shape shifters. They"}, {"start": "03:33:12", "end": "03:33:15", "text": "don't change shape. They change the way"}, {"start": "03:33:13", "end": "03:33:17", "text": "the human brain sees them."}, {"start": "03:33:15", "end": "03:33:19", "text": ">> They're highly evolved and intelligent"}, {"start": "03:33:17", "end": "03:33:20", "text": "with extremely advanced technology. They"}, {"start": "03:33:19", "end": "03:33:21", "text": "are"}, {"start": "03:33:20", "end": "03:33:25", "text": ">> reptilians."}, {"start": "03:33:21", "end": "03:33:25", "text": ">> Lizard people."}, {"start": "03:33:26", "end": "03:33:30", "text": ">> The Lerta files appeared online in the"}, {"start": "03:33:28", "end": "03:33:33", "text": "early 2000s. They're transcripts of two"}, {"start": "03:33:30", "end": "03:33:36", "text": "interviews, one from 1999 and one from"}, {"start": "03:33:33", "end": "03:33:38", "text": "2000. A journalist known as K spoke with"}, {"start": "03:33:36", "end": "03:33:41", "text": "a female reptilian who calls herself"}, {"start": "03:33:38", "end": "03:33:43", "text": "Lerta when she's with humans."}, {"start": "03:33:41", "end": "03:33:44", "text": "Apparently, we can't pronounce her real"}, {"start": "03:33:43", "end": "03:33:46", "text": "name. And mispronouncing someone's name"}, {"start": "03:33:44", "end": "03:33:48", "text": "in her culture is offensive."}, {"start": "03:33:46", "end": "03:33:50", "text": ">> Uh, this sounds like a millennial"}, {"start": "03:33:48", "end": "03:33:51", "text": "lizard, people. Uh, how old is she? Is"}, {"start": "03:33:50", "end": "03:33:52", "text": "she on TikTok?"}, {"start": "03:33:51", "end": "03:33:53", "text": ">> She's 28 years old."}, {"start": "03:33:52", "end": "03:33:56", "text": ">> Checks out."}, {"start": "03:33:53", "end": "03:33:59", "text": ">> She was around 5'5 and humanoid."}, {"start": "03:33:56", "end": "03:34:00", "text": "Her skin was pale green with brown dots,"}, {"start": "03:33:59", "end": "03:34:03", "text": "and her eyes were larger than human eyes"}, {"start": "03:34:00", "end": "03:34:05", "text": "with vertical slits for pupils. And when"}, {"start": "03:34:03", "end": "03:34:07", "text": "she blinked, a transparent membrane slid"}, {"start": "03:34:05", "end": "03:34:10", "text": "sideways across your eyes. Her species"}, {"start": "03:34:07", "end": "03:34:12", "text": "is called the turn. They lived beneath"}, {"start": "03:34:10", "end": "03:34:14", "text": "the earth for millions of years in vast"}, {"start": "03:34:12", "end": "03:34:16", "text": "cities carved from solid rock. I linked"}, {"start": "03:34:14", "end": "03:34:19", "text": "to the full text and you'll want to read"}, {"start": "03:34:16", "end": "03:34:21", "text": "it, but here's what matters. Lerta knew"}, {"start": "03:34:19", "end": "03:34:24", "text": "things. Things about ancient cultures,"}, {"start": "03:34:21", "end": "03:34:26", "text": "quantum mechanics, computer science. She"}, {"start": "03:34:24", "end": "03:34:28", "text": "said, \"Humans didn't evolve. We were"}, {"start": "03:34:26", "end": "03:34:29", "text": "engineered by aliens who needed slaves.\""}, {"start": "03:34:28", "end": "03:34:33", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:34:29", "end": "03:34:33", "text": ">> right. They have many names."}, {"start": "03:34:34", "end": "03:34:39", "text": "The beings you call the Elohem, we knew"}, {"start": "03:34:36", "end": "03:34:41", "text": "them as the Iligim. They needed workers."}, {"start": "03:34:39", "end": "03:34:43", "text": "They found primitive apes and began"}, {"start": "03:34:41", "end": "03:34:47", "text": "their experiments. But you aren't the"}, {"start": "03:34:43", "end": "03:34:49", "text": "first attempt. You're the seventh."}, {"start": "03:34:47", "end": "03:34:50", "text": ">> Wait, wait, wait. What? You humans are"}, {"start": "03:34:49", "end": "03:34:52", "text": "version seven?"}, {"start": "03:34:50", "end": "03:34:55", "text": ">> Well, each version was an experiment."}, {"start": "03:34:52", "end": "03:34:57", "text": "Create, test, destroy, then start again."}, {"start": "03:34:55", "end": "03:35:00", "text": "Bill left Earth before finishing version"}, {"start": "03:34:57", "end": "03:35:02", "text": "7. Now they're coming back to fix their"}, {"start": "03:35:00", "end": "03:35:02", "text": "mistake."}, {"start": "03:35:05", "end": "03:35:10", "text": "Lerta's story began not with her"}, {"start": "03:35:07", "end": "03:35:12", "text": "species, but with ours. She said, \"Human"}, {"start": "03:35:10", "end": "03:35:14", "text": "evolution is a lie. We were created by"}, {"start": "03:35:12", "end": "03:35:17", "text": "aliens called the illeg. They come from"}, {"start": "03:35:14", "end": "03:35:19", "text": "the star system we call Alderaron.\""}, {"start": "03:35:17", "end": "03:35:20", "text": ">> I I thought the Death Star blew up in"}, {"start": "03:35:19", "end": "03:35:22", "text": ">> Alderon."}, {"start": "03:35:20", "end": "03:35:25", "text": ">> What I say?"}, {"start": "03:35:22", "end": "03:35:27", "text": ">> The Ilog arrived on Earth 1.5 million"}, {"start": "03:35:25", "end": "03:35:29", "text": "years ago to mine copper. This would"}, {"start": "03:35:27", "end": "03:35:31", "text": "require a large labor force. So they"}, {"start": "03:35:29", "end": "03:35:34", "text": "altered a primitive ape's genetics and"}, {"start": "03:35:31", "end": "03:35:36", "text": "created a new species to do the work."}, {"start": "03:35:34", "end": "03:35:39", "text": "Version one was promising but flawed. So"}, {"start": "03:35:36", "end": "03:35:42", "text": "they wiped it out and started again and"}, {"start": "03:35:39", "end": "03:35:44", "text": "again. Lerta says the evidence of these"}, {"start": "03:35:42", "end": "03:35:46", "text": "earlier versions is all around us."}, {"start": "03:35:44", "end": "03:35:49", "text": "Archaeologists say the great pyramid of"}, {"start": "03:35:46", "end": "03:35:51", "text": "Giza was built around 2500 BC."}, {"start": "03:35:49", "end": "03:35:54", "text": ">> Big news. It's way older than that."}, {"start": "03:35:51", "end": "03:35:56", "text": ">> Bulerta agrees. The Egyptians didn't"}, {"start": "03:35:54", "end": "03:35:59", "text": "build the pyramids. They found them. The"}, {"start": "03:35:56", "end": "03:36:02", "text": "Great Pyramid was built 75,000 years ago"}, {"start": "03:35:59", "end": "03:36:04", "text": "by the fifth version of humanity."}, {"start": "03:36:02", "end": "03:36:06", "text": "The underwater ruins near Biminy were"}, {"start": "03:36:04", "end": "03:36:09", "text": "built 16,000 years ago by the sixth"}, {"start": "03:36:06", "end": "03:36:11", "text": "version. Perfect angles cut into massive"}, {"start": "03:36:09", "end": "03:36:13", "text": "stone blocks using techniques we only"}, {"start": "03:36:11", "end": "03:36:16", "text": "mastered in the last century. The"}, {"start": "03:36:13", "end": "03:36:18", "text": "illegated our evolution. Look at our"}, {"start": "03:36:16", "end": "03:36:20", "text": "timeline. 2 million years to improve a"}, {"start": "03:36:18", "end": "03:36:22", "text": "spear. Then in a few thousand years,"}, {"start": "03:36:20", "end": "03:36:23", "text": "writing electricity, landing a man on"}, {"start": "03:36:22", "end": "03:36:25", "text": "the moon."}, {"start": "03:36:23", "end": "03:36:27", "text": ">> Well, that never happened. Ah, but you"}, {"start": "03:36:25", "end": "03:36:27", "text": "monkeys got to orbit. I I'll get to"}, {"start": "03:36:27", "end": "03:36:29", "text": "that."}, {"start": "03:36:27", "end": "03:36:32", "text": ">> Fine. My point is we went from hunter"}, {"start": "03:36:29", "end": "03:36:34", "text": "gatherers to a space fairing species in"}, {"start": "03:36:32", "end": "03:36:36", "text": "a fraction of the time it took to go"}, {"start": "03:36:34", "end": "03:36:39", "text": "from homohabilis to homo erectus."}, {"start": "03:36:36", "end": "03:36:41", "text": ">> Stop it. Our DNA contains genes that"}, {"start": "03:36:39", "end": "03:36:43", "text": "don't match our ancestors."}, {"start": "03:36:41", "end": "03:36:45", "text": "Dr. James Gates found error correcting"}, {"start": "03:36:43", "end": "03:36:48", "text": "code embedded in human DNA. Proof we"}, {"start": "03:36:45", "end": "03:36:50", "text": "were engineered, not evolved. Now, this"}, {"start": "03:36:48", "end": "03:36:52", "text": "is not a new concept. Almost every"}, {"start": "03:36:50", "end": "03:36:54", "text": "ancient culture tells the same creation"}, {"start": "03:36:52", "end": "03:36:56", "text": "story. Beings of light arrived in"}, {"start": "03:36:54", "end": "03:36:59", "text": "massive ships. They created humans, gave"}, {"start": "03:36:56", "end": "03:37:02", "text": "them knowledge, not from kindness. They"}, {"start": "03:36:59", "end": "03:37:03", "text": "needed intelligent slaves, but not too"}, {"start": "03:37:02", "end": "03:37:06", "text": "intelligent. That's why they destroyed"}, {"start": "03:37:03", "end": "03:37:08", "text": "versions five and six. Millions died"}, {"start": "03:37:06", "end": "03:37:10", "text": "because they asked too many questions."}, {"start": "03:37:08", "end": "03:37:12", "text": ">> Oh, how they whack a whole planet."}, {"start": "03:37:10", "end": "03:37:14", "text": ">> Earthquakes, volcanoes, sometimes"}, {"start": "03:37:12", "end": "03:37:15", "text": "floods."}, {"start": "03:37:14", "end": "03:37:18", "text": ">> Younger, driest flood."}, {"start": "03:37:15", "end": "03:37:20", "text": ">> That was the last reset. Every culture"}, {"start": "03:37:18", "end": "03:37:22", "text": "has a flood myth because it happened."}, {"start": "03:37:20", "end": "03:37:24", "text": "Lerta expects the Iligim to return and"}, {"start": "03:37:22", "end": "03:37:26", "text": "finish their work. And we have no way to"}, {"start": "03:37:24", "end": "03:37:28", "text": "stop them. We don't have the technology"}, {"start": "03:37:26", "end": "03:37:30", "text": "to fight. And there's nowhere to hide."}, {"start": "03:37:28", "end": "03:37:34", "text": "We can't go underground. Underground"}, {"start": "03:37:30", "end": "03:37:34", "text": "belongs to the lizards."}, {"start": "03:37:39", "end": "03:37:44", "text": "The Darren Kuyu underground city in"}, {"start": "03:37:41", "end": "03:37:47", "text": "Turkey is a puzzle. 18 levels deep,"}, {"start": "03:37:44", "end": "03:37:49", "text": "almost 300 ft below the surface."}, {"start": "03:37:47", "end": "03:37:51", "text": "It has a ventilation system, a fresh"}, {"start": "03:37:49", "end": "03:37:54", "text": "water system. Acoustic chambers are"}, {"start": "03:37:51", "end": "03:37:56", "text": "tuned to specific frequencies. It was"}, {"start": "03:37:54", "end": "03:37:58", "text": "allegedly built with Bronze Age"}, {"start": "03:37:56", "end": "03:37:59", "text": "technology. But the truth is, nobody"}, {"start": "03:37:58", "end": "03:38:01", "text": "knows who built it or when."}, {"start": "03:37:59", "end": "03:38:02", "text": ">> Darren Cuyu linked down in the old"}, {"start": "03:38:01", "end": "03:38:04", "text": "washed up."}, {"start": "03:38:02", "end": "03:38:06", "text": ">> According to Lerta, Darren Kuyu isn't an"}, {"start": "03:38:04", "end": "03:38:09", "text": "ancient human city. It's an entrance to"}, {"start": "03:38:06", "end": "03:38:11", "text": "the Turan civilization, a vast network"}, {"start": "03:38:09", "end": "03:38:13", "text": "of cities underground. Their main"}, {"start": "03:38:11", "end": "03:38:15", "text": "settlements are 14,000 ft below the"}, {"start": "03:38:13", "end": "03:38:17", "text": "Earth's surface. And each city is about"}, {"start": "03:38:15", "end": "03:38:20", "text": "a mile and a half wide, carved into"}, {"start": "03:38:17", "end": "03:38:23", "text": "solid bedrock. At the center is the"}, {"start": "03:38:20", "end": "03:38:25", "text": "column, a 700 ft tower. It regulates"}, {"start": "03:38:23", "end": "03:38:27", "text": "climate, generates artificial sunlight,"}, {"start": "03:38:25", "end": "03:38:29", "text": "and manages the air flow."}, {"start": "03:38:27", "end": "03:38:30", "text": ">> Oh, it's like a lizard Alexa,"}, {"start": "03:38:29", "end": "03:38:31", "text": ">> I guess. So, yeah."}, {"start": "03:38:30", "end": "03:38:32", "text": ">> Hey, Alexa."}, {"start": "03:38:31", "end": "03:38:34", "text": ">> No, no, don't do that."}, {"start": "03:38:32", "end": "03:38:35", "text": ">> Hey, Alexa, write a dirty limick about"}, {"start": "03:38:34", "end": "03:38:37", "text": "the crab kit."}, {"start": "03:38:35", "end": "03:38:37", "text": ">> Why did you do that? We have kids"}, {"start": "03:38:37", "end": "03:38:40", "text": "watching."}, {"start": "03:38:37", "end": "03:38:42", "text": ">> See you the crab kit."}, {"start": "03:38:40", "end": "03:38:44", "text": "The hypo gamm in Malta has similar"}, {"start": "03:38:42", "end": "03:38:46", "text": "mysteries. Discovered in 1902, this"}, {"start": "03:38:44", "end": "03:38:49", "text": "underground structure also features"}, {"start": "03:38:46", "end": "03:38:51", "text": "unusual acoustic properties. How the"}, {"start": "03:38:49", "end": "03:38:53", "text": "huge stones were cut is still debated."}, {"start": "03:38:51", "end": "03:38:56", "text": "Giants of mortal link down in the old"}, {"start": "03:38:53", "end": "03:38:58", "text": "gibble goblet."}, {"start": "03:38:56", "end": "03:39:00", "text": "Cave systems in China reveal extensive"}, {"start": "03:38:58", "end": "03:39:03", "text": "tunnels. South American myths describe"}, {"start": "03:39:00", "end": "03:39:05", "text": "vast underground networks. Geological"}, {"start": "03:39:03", "end": "03:39:07", "text": "surveys have detected hollow spaces deep"}, {"start": "03:39:05", "end": "03:39:09", "text": "beneath the surface, but our technology"}, {"start": "03:39:07", "end": "03:39:11", "text": "can't reach them. There is one place"}, {"start": "03:39:09", "end": "03:39:14", "text": "underground that our technology can"}, {"start": "03:39:11", "end": "03:39:16", "text": "reach that's raised a few questions."}, {"start": "03:39:14", "end": "03:39:18", "text": "Geologists studying the Chikshulu impact"}, {"start": "03:39:16", "end": "03:39:20", "text": "crater in the Yucatan Peninsula found"}, {"start": "03:39:18", "end": "03:39:23", "text": "layers of rock transformed by intense"}, {"start": "03:39:20", "end": "03:39:25", "text": "heat and pressure, but not from above,"}, {"start": "03:39:23", "end": "03:39:28", "text": "from below. According to Lerta, these"}, {"start": "03:39:25", "end": "03:39:34", "text": "aren't random formations. They're scars,"}, {"start": "03:39:28", "end": "03:39:34", "text": "evidence of a war. A war for copper."}, {"start": "03:39:37", "end": "03:39:41", "text": "we know would killed the dinosaurs. An"}, {"start": "03:39:39", "end": "03:39:44", "text": "asteroid hit the Yucatan Peninsula about"}, {"start": "03:39:41", "end": "03:39:46", "text": "66 million years ago. The impact left"}, {"start": "03:39:44", "end": "03:39:48", "text": "aridium in the geological record, but"}, {"start": "03:39:46", "end": "03:39:50", "text": "Lerta says we have it backwards. The"}, {"start": "03:39:48", "end": "03:39:52", "text": "idium wasn't from space. It was fallout"}, {"start": "03:39:50", "end": "03:39:54", "text": "from a nuclear weapon that used copper"}, {"start": "03:39:52", "end": "03:39:56", "text": "as fuel."}, {"start": "03:39:54", "end": "03:39:58", "text": ">> What's so fancy about copper?"}, {"start": "03:39:56", "end": "03:40:00", "text": ">> When copper underos nuclear fusion under"}, {"start": "03:39:58", "end": "03:40:04", "text": "specific conditions, it creates elements"}, {"start": "03:40:00", "end": "03:40:06", "text": "that shouldn't exist."}, {"start": "03:40:04", "end": "03:40:09", "text": ">> Copper is a very important material. If"}, {"start": "03:40:06", "end": "03:40:11", "text": "you induce a high electromagnetic field"}, {"start": "03:40:09", "end": "03:40:13", "text": "in the right angle, you produce an"}, {"start": "03:40:11", "end": "03:40:15", "text": "overcrossing of fluctuating fields. The"}, {"start": "03:40:13", "end": "03:40:18", "text": "fusion of copper with other elements in"}, {"start": "03:40:15", "end": "03:40:20", "text": "such a magnetic radiation field chamber"}, {"start": "03:40:18", "end": "03:40:23", "text": "can produce a force field of special"}, {"start": "03:40:20", "end": "03:40:24", "text": "nature that is very useful for various"}, {"start": "03:40:23", "end": "03:40:27", "text": "technological tasks."}, {"start": "03:40:24", "end": "03:40:29", "text": ">> Oh, thanks s that cleavs it up. What is"}, {"start": "03:40:27", "end": "03:40:31", "text": "she talking about? I don't speak lizard."}, {"start": "03:40:29", "end": "03:40:33", "text": ">> She said copper can produce energy"}, {"start": "03:40:31", "end": "03:40:35", "text": "fields that can manipulate gravity,"}, {"start": "03:40:33", "end": "03:40:38", "text": "space, and time."}, {"start": "03:40:35", "end": "03:40:40", "text": "UFOs use this for propulsion. The craft"}, {"start": "03:40:38", "end": "03:40:41", "text": "creates a field oppositeely aligned with"}, {"start": "03:40:40", "end": "03:40:43", "text": "the Earth's magnetic field."}, {"start": "03:40:41", "end": "03:40:45", "text": ">> I also know you big lizard."}, {"start": "03:40:43", "end": "03:40:47", "text": ">> When the same poles from two magnets are"}, {"start": "03:40:45", "end": "03:40:50", "text": "close to each other, they create a"}, {"start": "03:40:47", "end": "03:40:51", "text": "repelling field. UFOs use copper fusion"}, {"start": "03:40:50", "end": "03:40:53", "text": "to create a field that pushes against"}, {"start": "03:40:51", "end": "03:40:54", "text": "the Earth's magnetic field. This is how"}, {"start": "03:40:53", "end": "03:40:58", "text": "they fly."}, {"start": "03:40:54", "end": "03:41:00", "text": ">> It actually makes sense."}, {"start": "03:40:58", "end": "03:41:02", "text": ">> But the magnetic field of the Earth is"}, {"start": "03:41:00", "end": "03:41:03", "text": "constantly moving. The UFOs have to"}, {"start": "03:41:02", "end": "03:41:06", "text": "adjust their alignment, and this is hard"}, {"start": "03:41:03", "end": "03:41:08", "text": "to do. Sometimes they fail. That's what"}, {"start": "03:41:06", "end": "03:41:11", "text": "happened to Roswell in 1947. Two ships"}, {"start": "03:41:08", "end": "03:41:13", "text": "crashed. According to Lerta, two alien"}, {"start": "03:41:11", "end": "03:41:15", "text": "species discovered Earth at the same"}, {"start": "03:41:13", "end": "03:41:17", "text": "time millions of years ago. Humanoids"}, {"start": "03:41:15", "end": "03:41:20", "text": "from Proion arrived first. They built"}, {"start": "03:41:17", "end": "03:41:22", "text": "copper mines in Antarctica and Asia, and"}, {"start": "03:41:20", "end": "03:41:24", "text": "their ships filled the skies. Then"}, {"start": "03:41:22", "end": "03:41:26", "text": "another species arrived, reptilians,"}, {"start": "03:41:24", "end": "03:41:28", "text": "with their own copper fusion technology,"}, {"start": "03:41:26", "end": "03:41:31", "text": "and they wanted Earth's copper. The"}, {"start": "03:41:28", "end": "03:41:34", "text": "Proons refused to share."}, {"start": "03:41:31", "end": "03:41:36", "text": "The war lasted months. The Proons were"}, {"start": "03:41:34", "end": "03:41:38", "text": "winning until the reptilians deployed"}, {"start": "03:41:36", "end": "03:41:41", "text": "their ultimate weapon, a copper fusion"}, {"start": "03:41:38", "end": "03:41:42", "text": "bomb. It detonated in Yugatan. They"}, {"start": "03:41:41", "end": "03:41:45", "text": "expected it to kill all surface life"}, {"start": "03:41:42", "end": "03:41:47", "text": "while preserving mineral deposits. But"}, {"start": "03:41:45", "end": "03:41:49", "text": "something went wrong. Earth's seawater"}, {"start": "03:41:47", "end": "03:41:51", "text": "triggered a chain reaction and the"}, {"start": "03:41:49", "end": "03:41:54", "text": "nuclear winter lasted 200 years, and"}, {"start": "03:41:51", "end": "03:41:56", "text": "most dinosaurs died, but some escaped"}, {"start": "03:41:54", "end": "03:41:59", "text": "underground. One species, an advanced"}, {"start": "03:41:56", "end": "03:42:01", "text": "iguanadon, evolved into the turret,"}, {"start": "03:41:59", "end": "03:42:04", "text": "Lera's ancestors."}, {"start": "03:42:01", "end": "03:42:06", "text": "Before the extinction event, iguanadons"}, {"start": "03:42:04", "end": "03:42:09", "text": "were evolving to walk on two legs, and"}, {"start": "03:42:06", "end": "03:42:11", "text": "they were evolving an opposable thumb."}, {"start": "03:42:09", "end": "03:42:14", "text": "Your human scientists today see the"}, {"start": "03:42:11", "end": "03:42:16", "text": "iridium concentration in the ground as"}, {"start": "03:42:14", "end": "03:42:19", "text": "an evidence for an asteroid impact that"}, {"start": "03:42:16", "end": "03:42:23", "text": "killed the dinosaurs. That is not true."}, {"start": "03:42:19", "end": "03:42:25", "text": "But how should you know that?"}, {"start": "03:42:23", "end": "03:42:27", "text": "Modern militaries are trying to recreate"}, {"start": "03:42:25", "end": "03:42:29", "text": "copper fusion technology, but Lerta says"}, {"start": "03:42:27", "end": "03:42:31", "text": "they're following blueprints they don't"}, {"start": "03:42:29", "end": "03:42:33", "text": "understand. The process requires a"}, {"start": "03:42:31", "end": "03:42:36", "text": "deeper knowledge, not just of physics,"}, {"start": "03:42:33", "end": "03:42:38", "text": "but of biology."}, {"start": "03:42:36", "end": "03:42:40", "text": "Because the real power of copper fusion"}, {"start": "03:42:38", "end": "03:42:41", "text": "isn't just about manipulating matter."}, {"start": "03:42:40", "end": "03:42:44", "text": "It's about manipulating human"}, {"start": "03:42:41", "end": "03:42:44", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "03:42:50", "end": "03:42:54", "text": "During the second interview with OK,"}, {"start": "03:42:52", "end": "03:42:57", "text": "Lerta demonstrated the turn's psychic"}, {"start": "03:42:54", "end": "03:43:00", "text": "abilities. First telekinesis. Lerta held"}, {"start": "03:42:57", "end": "03:43:03", "text": "out her hand. His hot coffee froze"}, {"start": "03:43:00", "end": "03:43:06", "text": "instantly. A pencil rose from the table."}, {"start": "03:43:03", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "Kay was stunned."}, {"start": "03:43:06", "end": "03:43:11", "text": "This isn't magic. It's biology. We are"}, {"start": "03:43:09", "end": "03:43:13", "text": "able to use telepathy and telekinesis"}, {"start": "03:43:11", "end": "03:43:15", "text": "from our birth. The structure of our"}, {"start": "03:43:13", "end": "03:43:17", "text": "brain is a little bit different and more"}, {"start": "03:43:15", "end": "03:43:20", "text": "active than yours, especially when we"}, {"start": "03:43:17", "end": "03:43:22", "text": "are in sunlight. When we are on the"}, {"start": "03:43:20", "end": "03:43:25", "text": "surface and we meet human beings, we are"}, {"start": "03:43:22", "end": "03:43:27", "text": "able to touch their mind and induce them"}, {"start": "03:43:25", "end": "03:43:30", "text": "via telepathy, the command, see us as"}, {"start": "03:43:27", "end": "03:43:32", "text": "one of your kind. And the weak human"}, {"start": "03:43:30", "end": "03:43:34", "text": "mind will accept this order without"}, {"start": "03:43:32", "end": "03:43:38", "text": "refusing. And they will see us despite"}, {"start": "03:43:34", "end": "03:43:40", "text": "our reptilian look as normal humans."}, {"start": "03:43:38", "end": "03:43:41", "text": "Wait, lizard people could be anywhere"}, {"start": "03:43:40", "end": "03:43:44", "text": "looking all human."}, {"start": "03:43:41", "end": "03:43:46", "text": ">> It could be."}, {"start": "03:43:44", "end": "03:43:49", "text": "What the most important thing in our"}, {"start": "03:43:46", "end": "03:43:51", "text": "lives is what for we have come to this"}, {"start": "03:43:49", "end": "03:43:54", "text": "world in general. Not only on New Year's"}, {"start": "03:43:51", "end": "03:43:55", "text": "Eve but basically every day to cultivate"}, {"start": "03:43:54", "end": "03:43:58", "text": "this."}, {"start": "03:43:55", "end": "03:44:00", "text": ">> I knew it did Illuminati."}, {"start": "03:43:58", "end": "03:44:00", "text": ">> The turn are not the Illuminati."}, {"start": "03:44:00", "end": "03:44:02", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "03:44:00", "end": "03:44:05", "text": ">> Different reptilians are"}, {"start": "03:44:02", "end": "03:44:07", "text": ">> Lerta's people avoid humans but another"}, {"start": "03:44:05", "end": "03:44:09", "text": "reptilian race controls Earth. If you"}, {"start": "03:44:07", "end": "03:44:12", "text": "know David Ike's work, her story"}, {"start": "03:44:09", "end": "03:44:14", "text": "confirms a lot of it. Ike said that a"}, {"start": "03:44:12", "end": "03:44:16", "text": "race of shape-shifting reptilians from"}, {"start": "03:44:14", "end": "03:44:18", "text": "the Draco star system has infiltrated"}, {"start": "03:44:16", "end": "03:44:20", "text": "the world's power structures."}, {"start": "03:44:18", "end": "03:44:21", "text": ">> Say that the the people that actually"}, {"start": "03:44:20", "end": "03:44:23", "text": "live on the island are part of this."}, {"start": "03:44:21", "end": "03:44:24", "text": "There are people there's there's a"}, {"start": "03:44:23", "end": "03:44:27", "text": "network on the island that are"}, {"start": "03:44:24", "end": "03:44:29", "text": ">> big time there. I mean the island of"}, {"start": "03:44:27", "end": "03:44:31", "text": "white is a beautiful place and if you"}, {"start": "03:44:29", "end": "03:44:33", "text": "pick up the higher levels vibrational"}, {"start": "03:44:31", "end": "03:44:36", "text": "levels of it, it's a very pleasant place"}, {"start": "03:44:33", "end": "03:44:39", "text": "to be. But my goodness me, there is a"}, {"start": "03:44:36", "end": "03:44:42", "text": "network of Freemasons, Satanists, and"}, {"start": "03:44:39", "end": "03:44:43", "text": "pedophiles that run this island. They"}, {"start": "03:44:42", "end": "03:44:44", "text": "run its government, the government,"}, {"start": "03:44:43", "end": "03:44:46", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "03:44:44", "end": "03:44:48", "text": ">> They're disguised as leaders in finance,"}, {"start": "03:44:46", "end": "03:44:50", "text": "media, and politics. They manipulate"}, {"start": "03:44:48", "end": "03:44:51", "text": "global events, steering us toward a one"}, {"start": "03:44:50", "end": "03:44:53", "text": "world government."}, {"start": "03:44:51", "end": "03:44:55", "text": ">> This is common knowledge."}, {"start": "03:44:53", "end": "03:44:57", "text": ">> Ike says they operate from the moon, an"}, {"start": "03:44:55", "end": "03:45:00", "text": "artificial base built by ancient aliens."}, {"start": "03:44:57", "end": "03:45:01", "text": ">> Hollow moon link down in your bento box."}, {"start": "03:45:00", "end": "03:45:03", "text": ">> The moon broadcast frequencies that"}, {"start": "03:45:01", "end": "03:45:04", "text": "create negative emotions. The reptilians"}, {"start": "03:45:03", "end": "03:45:06", "text": "feed on this"}, {"start": "03:45:04", "end": "03:45:10", "text": ">> humans a lizard people lunch episode"}, {"start": "03:45:06", "end": "03:45:11", "text": "link down in your uh I got nothing."}, {"start": "03:45:10", "end": "03:45:13", "text": ">> Yeah, I've covered bits and pieces of"}, {"start": "03:45:11", "end": "03:45:15", "text": "Ike's work here and there, but he needs"}, {"start": "03:45:13", "end": "03:45:16", "text": "his own episode. He has a lot of"}, {"start": "03:45:15", "end": "03:45:18", "text": "interesting theories."}, {"start": "03:45:16", "end": "03:45:19", "text": ">> Now, if you want to see that, let me"}, {"start": "03:45:18", "end": "03:45:21", "text": "know. All right, where we at?"}, {"start": "03:45:19", "end": "03:45:24", "text": ">> Uh the wizard lady was throwing pencils"}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:25", "text": "around and manipulating your weak-minded"}, {"start": "03:45:24", "end": "03:45:28", "text": "humans."}, {"start": "03:45:25", "end": "03:45:30", "text": ">> Right. Old K sees Lerta's true form only"}, {"start": "03:45:28", "end": "03:45:32", "text": "because she allows it. She normally"}, {"start": "03:45:30", "end": "03:45:33", "text": "appears as an attractive brunette."}, {"start": "03:45:32", "end": "03:45:34", "text": ">> Oh, what? Nobody wants to appear as a"}, {"start": "03:45:33", "end": "03:45:36", "text": "chunky ginger."}, {"start": "03:45:34", "end": "03:45:38", "text": ">> Be nice."}, {"start": "03:45:36", "end": "03:45:41", "text": "Lerta says that humans have these same"}, {"start": "03:45:38", "end": "03:45:45", "text": "abilities, but the illegs"}, {"start": "03:45:41", "end": "03:45:46", "text": "are aware of this. The Pentagon's ESP"}, {"start": "03:45:45", "end": "03:45:48", "text": "research wasn't just about human"}, {"start": "03:45:46", "end": "03:45:50", "text": "psychics. They studied sites where"}, {"start": "03:45:48", "end": "03:45:53", "text": "magnetic field fluctuations altered"}, {"start": "03:45:50", "end": "03:45:55", "text": "children's brain waves. The classified"}, {"start": "03:45:53", "end": "03:45:57", "text": "report concluded the iligum left"}, {"start": "03:45:55", "end": "03:46:02", "text": "something in human DNA. And whatever it"}, {"start": "03:45:57", "end": "03:46:02", "text": "is, it's waking up."}, {"start": "03:46:07", "end": "03:46:12", "text": "Earth's magnetic north pole is moving"}, {"start": "03:46:09", "end": "03:46:14", "text": "faster than ever recorded, about 35 mph."}, {"start": "03:46:12", "end": "03:46:15", "text": "The world magnetic model can't keep up,"}, {"start": "03:46:14", "end": "03:46:18", "text": "and scientists don't fully understand"}, {"start": "03:46:15", "end": "03:46:20", "text": "why. Lerta says these disturbances are"}, {"start": "03:46:18", "end": "03:46:22", "text": "part of the illegum's plan. They built"}, {"start": "03:46:20", "end": "03:46:24", "text": "triggers into human DNA. Programming"}, {"start": "03:46:22", "end": "03:46:26", "text": "that activates under specific"}, {"start": "03:46:24", "end": "03:46:29", "text": "conditions. The shifting magnetic field"}, {"start": "03:46:26", "end": "03:46:32", "text": "affects human consciousness."}, {"start": "03:46:29", "end": "03:46:34", "text": "The Ilo Jim didn't just want workers."}, {"start": "03:46:32", "end": "03:46:37", "text": "They wanted weapons."}, {"start": "03:46:34", "end": "03:46:39", "text": "Living weapons that would evolve exactly"}, {"start": "03:46:37", "end": "03:46:42", "text": "as planned. Your rapid technological"}, {"start": "03:46:39", "end": "03:46:45", "text": "advancement wasn't an accident. It was"}, {"start": "03:46:42", "end": "03:46:47", "text": "programmed into your DNA."}, {"start": "03:46:45", "end": "03:46:49", "text": "Three alien species are coming for"}, {"start": "03:46:47", "end": "03:46:51", "text": "Earth. One needs human genetics. Another"}, {"start": "03:46:49", "end": "03:46:53", "text": "wants hydrogen from our oceans. And the"}, {"start": "03:46:51", "end": "03:46:55", "text": "third wants copper for weapons. The"}, {"start": "03:46:53", "end": "03:46:58", "text": "illegum engineered us to defeat them"}, {"start": "03:46:55", "end": "03:46:59", "text": "all."}, {"start": "03:46:58", "end": "03:47:02", "text": "Your creators didn't just give you"}, {"start": "03:46:59", "end": "03:47:05", "text": "intelligence. They gave you aggression,"}, {"start": "03:47:02", "end": "03:47:07", "text": "territorial instincts, pack mentality."}, {"start": "03:47:05", "end": "03:47:10", "text": "They built you to fight. The seventh"}, {"start": "03:47:07", "end": "03:47:13", "text": "version wasn't their final creation. It"}, {"start": "03:47:10", "end": "03:47:14", "text": "was their first successful prototype."}, {"start": "03:47:13", "end": "03:47:16", "text": "So, the Ilog aren't coming to destroy"}, {"start": "03:47:14", "end": "03:47:18", "text": "humanity. They're coming to complete"}, {"start": "03:47:16", "end": "03:47:20", "text": "what they started. The question isn't"}, {"start": "03:47:18", "end": "03:47:24", "text": "whether we'll survive. It's whether"}, {"start": "03:47:20", "end": "03:47:24", "text": "we'll still be human when they're done."}, {"start": "03:47:31", "end": "03:47:35", "text": "When the Lerta files landed on the web"}, {"start": "03:47:33", "end": "03:47:37", "text": "in the early 2000s, it got people's"}, {"start": "03:47:35", "end": "03:47:39", "text": "attention. Dinosaurs killed by alien"}, {"start": "03:47:37", "end": "03:47:41", "text": "wars, humans engineered by ancient"}, {"start": "03:47:39", "end": "03:47:43", "text": "astronauts, underground reptilian"}, {"start": "03:47:41", "end": "03:47:45", "text": "cities, magnetic fields controlling"}, {"start": "03:47:43", "end": "03:47:48", "text": "human consciousness. It's an incredible"}, {"start": "03:47:45", "end": "03:47:50", "text": "story and has a lot of supporters. But"}, {"start": "03:47:48", "end": "03:47:52", "text": "is it true?"}, {"start": "03:47:50", "end": "03:47:54", "text": "Let's separate fact from speculation."}, {"start": "03:47:52", "end": "03:47:56", "text": "Darren Kuyu exists. It's an underground"}, {"start": "03:47:54", "end": "03:47:58", "text": "city in Turkey extending roughly 280 ft"}, {"start": "03:47:56", "end": "03:48:01", "text": "below the surface. Its ventilation"}, {"start": "03:47:58", "end": "03:48:02", "text": "system still fascinates engineers. Some"}, {"start": "03:48:01", "end": "03:48:04", "text": "say the stonework shows signs of"}, {"start": "03:48:02", "end": "03:48:05", "text": "advanced technology, but most experts"}, {"start": "03:48:04", "end": "03:48:08", "text": "believe that people were just really"}, {"start": "03:48:05", "end": "03:48:10", "text": "talented. The Malta hypogum is famous"}, {"start": "03:48:08", "end": "03:48:13", "text": "for its acoustic properties. Chambers"}, {"start": "03:48:10", "end": "03:48:15", "text": "are tuned to 110 hertz and nobody knows"}, {"start": "03:48:13", "end": "03:48:17", "text": "why. The site stonework is also very"}, {"start": "03:48:15", "end": "03:48:18", "text": "precise. While no mainstream evidence"}, {"start": "03:48:17", "end": "03:48:20", "text": "suggests it's beyond Neolithic"}, {"start": "03:48:18", "end": "03:48:23", "text": "capabilities, the skill involved is"}, {"start": "03:48:20", "end": "03:48:25", "text": "still impressive. But geological surveys"}, {"start": "03:48:23", "end": "03:48:27", "text": "confirm vast cave networks winding deep"}, {"start": "03:48:25", "end": "03:48:28", "text": "beneath the earth's surface. And this"}, {"start": "03:48:27", "end": "03:48:30", "text": "brings out the hollow earth theories."}, {"start": "03:48:28", "end": "03:48:33", "text": "Now, until we can see with our own eyes,"}, {"start": "03:48:30", "end": "03:48:34", "text": "all we can do is guess. Deep sea"}, {"start": "03:48:33", "end": "03:48:36", "text": "monitoring stations record unexplained"}, {"start": "03:48:34", "end": "03:48:39", "text": "sounds like the bloop. Experts say"}, {"start": "03:48:36", "end": "03:48:41", "text": "they're ice quakes or a marine life."}, {"start": "03:48:39", "end": "03:48:44", "text": "Maybe, but parts of the ocean are too"}, {"start": "03:48:41", "end": "03:48:45", "text": "deep to reach for now. The chick crater"}, {"start": "03:48:44", "end": "03:48:47", "text": "marked an asteroid impact that killed"}, {"start": "03:48:45", "end": "03:48:48", "text": "the dinosaurs, and most scientists"}, {"start": "03:48:47", "end": "03:48:51", "text": "agree. But there are some who say that"}, {"start": "03:48:48", "end": "03:48:53", "text": "the heat and pressure came from below. A"}, {"start": "03:48:51", "end": "03:48:54", "text": "scientist laugh at those people, but"}, {"start": "03:48:53", "end": "03:48:57", "text": "honestly, the asteroid killing the"}, {"start": "03:48:54", "end": "03:48:58", "text": "dinosaurs theory is pretty new. When I"}, {"start": "03:48:57", "end": "03:49:00", "text": "was a kid, people got laughed at for"}, {"start": "03:48:58", "end": "03:49:02", "text": "believing this. It wasn't until the"}, {"start": "03:49:00", "end": "03:49:04", "text": "early 1990s that the crater was found."}, {"start": "03:49:02", "end": "03:49:08", "text": "So, as always, the only thing separating"}, {"start": "03:49:04", "end": "03:49:10", "text": "a conspiracy from the truth is time."}, {"start": "03:49:08", "end": "03:49:12", "text": "Our own evolution raises questions, too."}, {"start": "03:49:10", "end": "03:49:14", "text": "It took early humans hundreds of"}, {"start": "03:49:12", "end": "03:49:16", "text": "thousands of years to refine stone"}, {"start": "03:49:14", "end": "03:49:18", "text": "tools. Then, suddenly, agriculture,"}, {"start": "03:49:16", "end": "03:49:20", "text": "written language, advanced technology."}, {"start": "03:49:18", "end": "03:49:22", "text": "Anthropologists say once we learned to"}, {"start": "03:49:20", "end": "03:49:24", "text": "write, technology could accelerate"}, {"start": "03:49:22", "end": "03:49:27", "text": "because now we had a way of passing"}, {"start": "03:49:24", "end": "03:49:28", "text": "information along. I'm open-minded about"}, {"start": "03:49:27", "end": "03:49:30", "text": "the ancient advanced civilization"}, {"start": "03:49:28", "end": "03:49:32", "text": "theory, but I'm not a full believer."}, {"start": "03:49:30", "end": "03:49:34", "text": "Still, I'll watch and read anything that"}, {"start": "03:49:32", "end": "03:49:36", "text": "Graham Hancock puts out. Earth's"}, {"start": "03:49:34", "end": "03:49:39", "text": "magnetic pole moves between 25 and 35"}, {"start": "03:49:36", "end": "03:49:41", "text": "mph, the fastest rate ever recorded."}, {"start": "03:49:39", "end": "03:49:43", "text": "It's definitely happening now. I don't"}, {"start": "03:49:41", "end": "03:49:45", "text": "think aliens caused it, but if you want"}, {"start": "03:49:43", "end": "03:49:46", "text": "nightmares about pole shifts, watch our"}, {"start": "03:49:45", "end": "03:49:48", "text": "episode on the Adam and Eve story. Adam"}, {"start": "03:49:46", "end": "03:49:50", "text": "and Eve nightmare fuel link down in your"}, {"start": "03:49:48", "end": "03:49:52", "text": "honeyhole."}, {"start": "03:49:50", "end": "03:49:54", "text": ">> Now read the transcripts. It's either"}, {"start": "03:49:52", "end": "03:49:56", "text": "scientific genius or nonsense. And I'm"}, {"start": "03:49:54", "end": "03:49:58", "text": "not smart enough to tell. It's full of"}, {"start": "03:49:56", "end": "03:50:00", "text": "terms like quantum technology for bubble"}, {"start": "03:49:58", "end": "03:50:03", "text": "walking in the omniverse and reptilian"}, {"start": "03:50:00", "end": "03:50:05", "text": "parathalamus matter interaction."}, {"start": "03:50:03", "end": "03:50:07", "text": ">> Who wrote this thing? Terrence Howard."}, {"start": "03:50:05", "end": "03:50:08", "text": ">> Please don't say that. He he watches"}, {"start": "03:50:07", "end": "03:50:10", "text": "this channel. Now the biggest problem"}, {"start": "03:50:08", "end": "03:50:12", "text": "with the Lerta file story is that old"}, {"start": "03:50:10", "end": "03:50:14", "text": "K's identity has never been confirmed."}, {"start": "03:50:12", "end": "03:50:16", "text": "He's called Kay after Tommy Lee Jones's"}, {"start": "03:50:14", "end": "03:50:19", "text": "character from the Men in Black. Here"}, {"start": "03:50:16", "end": "03:50:21", "text": "come the Men in Black, the galaxy"}, {"start": "03:50:19", "end": "03:50:23", "text": "defenders."}, {"start": "03:50:21", "end": "03:50:25", "text": ">> True or not, the Lerta Files is a fun"}, {"start": "03:50:23", "end": "03:50:27", "text": "read. Now, so far, there's no documented"}, {"start": "03:50:25", "end": "03:50:29", "text": "proof of contact with non-human"}, {"start": "03:50:27", "end": "03:50:31", "text": "intelligence. Every year, we get teased"}, {"start": "03:50:29", "end": "03:50:33", "text": "about disclosure, but I won't hold my"}, {"start": "03:50:31", "end": "03:50:35", "text": "breath. I think we've had contact, but I"}, {"start": "03:50:33", "end": "03:50:36", "text": "don't think they're going to tell us."}, {"start": "03:50:35", "end": "03:50:39", "text": "And you've heard me say that I don't"}, {"start": "03:50:36", "end": "03:50:40", "text": "think UFOs are from another planet. If"}, {"start": "03:50:39", "end": "03:50:42", "text": "you look at the ancient structures"}, {"start": "03:50:40", "end": "03:50:44", "text": "underground, the patterns in our"}, {"start": "03:50:42", "end": "03:50:46", "text": "history, the anomalies in our DNA, the"}, {"start": "03:50:44", "end": "03:50:48", "text": "evidence doesn't point to something from"}, {"start": "03:50:46", "end": "03:50:52", "text": "another world. It points to something"}, {"start": "03:50:48", "end": "03:50:52", "text": "that never left."}, {"start": "03:50:56", "end": "03:51:02", "text": "Oh, great. I'm already getting comments"}, {"start": "03:50:58", "end": "03:51:04", "text": "on how to pronounce Go Beckley."}, {"start": "03:51:02", "end": "03:51:08", "text": "Stop commenting."}, {"start": "03:51:04", "end": "03:51:10", "text": "Next episode was picked by Gino. You"}, {"start": "03:51:08", "end": "03:51:14", "text": "know, Gino from Gino's story hour on the"}, {"start": "03:51:10", "end": "03:51:16", "text": "After Files. H, now that I think about"}, {"start": "03:51:14", "end": "03:51:19", "text": "it, Gino does a lot of stories about"}, {"start": "03:51:16", "end": "03:51:22", "text": "alien erotica. I'm sensing a theme"}, {"start": "03:51:19", "end": "03:51:24", "text": "around here. Gino chose the episode"}, {"start": "03:51:22", "end": "03:51:26", "text": "about the hollow moon theory. I know"}, {"start": "03:51:24", "end": "03:51:30", "text": "that sounds wacky, but trust me, you'll"}, {"start": "03:51:26", "end": "03:51:32", "text": "like this one. Roll it."}, {"start": "03:51:30", "end": "03:51:34", "text": "Despite it being humanity's constant"}, {"start": "03:51:32", "end": "03:51:37", "text": "companion through all of recorded time,"}, {"start": "03:51:34", "end": "03:51:39", "text": "the moon is still a mystery. Science"}, {"start": "03:51:37", "end": "03:51:42", "text": "hasn't been able to explain how the moon"}, {"start": "03:51:39", "end": "03:51:44", "text": "was formed, its unusual orbit, its"}, {"start": "03:51:42", "end": "03:51:46", "text": "distance from us, its density, its"}, {"start": "03:51:44", "end": "03:51:48", "text": "composition, its structure. These are"}, {"start": "03:51:46", "end": "03:51:49", "text": "all still questions. Now, there are"}, {"start": "03:51:48", "end": "03:51:51", "text": "theories about the moon that solves some"}, {"start": "03:51:49", "end": "03:51:54", "text": "of these puzzles. But they don't solve"}, {"start": "03:51:51", "end": "03:51:56", "text": "all of them. There's only one theory"}, {"start": "03:51:54", "end": "03:51:58", "text": "that answers every scientific question"}, {"start": "03:51:56", "end": "03:52:01", "text": "about the moon, just one. That the moon"}, {"start": "03:51:58", "end": "03:52:04", "text": "is a hollow artificial structure brought"}, {"start": "03:52:01", "end": "03:52:07", "text": "here by someone else. Let's find out"}, {"start": "03:52:04", "end": "03:52:07", "text": "why."}, {"start": "03:52:09", "end": "03:52:12", "text": "Let's start at the beginning. We're"}, {"start": "03:52:11", "end": "03:52:14", "text": "taught that the moon has been here"}, {"start": "03:52:12", "end": "03:52:17", "text": "forever. But there's controversy about"}, {"start": "03:52:14", "end": "03:52:18", "text": "this because scientists can't agree on"}, {"start": "03:52:17", "end": "03:52:20", "text": "how the moon was formed in the first"}, {"start": "03:52:18", "end": "03:52:22", "text": "place. The first theory of how the moon"}, {"start": "03:52:20", "end": "03:52:24", "text": "became linked to the earth is the"}, {"start": "03:52:22", "end": "03:52:26", "text": "capture theory. It says the moon was"}, {"start": "03:52:24", "end": "03:52:28", "text": "just floating along, drifted near the"}, {"start": "03:52:26", "end": "03:52:30", "text": "earth, and was pulled into orbit. This"}, {"start": "03:52:28", "end": "03:52:33", "text": "is almost impossible. Another"}, {"start": "03:52:30", "end": "03:52:34", "text": "explanation is the accretion theory that"}, {"start": "03:52:33", "end": "03:52:36", "text": "the moon and earth formed out of dust"}, {"start": "03:52:34", "end": "03:52:38", "text": "clouds in the early solar system. But"}, {"start": "03:52:36", "end": "03:52:41", "text": "when systems formed through accretion,"}, {"start": "03:52:38", "end": "03:52:42", "text": "they share similar traits. If the moon"}, {"start": "03:52:41", "end": "03:52:44", "text": "was formed this way, it would have an"}, {"start": "03:52:42", "end": "03:52:47", "text": "iron core like the earth. It would spin"}, {"start": "03:52:44", "end": "03:52:49", "text": "on an axis like the earth. But neither"}, {"start": "03:52:47", "end": "03:52:51", "text": "of these are true. The vision hypothesis"}, {"start": "03:52:49", "end": "03:52:53", "text": "was popular for a while and this says"}, {"start": "03:52:51", "end": "03:52:55", "text": "the early earth was spinning so fast"}, {"start": "03:52:53", "end": "03:52:57", "text": "that the moon was formed out of rock in"}, {"start": "03:52:55", "end": "03:52:59", "text": "the Pacific Ocean that was flung into"}, {"start": "03:52:57", "end": "03:53:01", "text": "space. But we later learn that moon rock"}, {"start": "03:52:59", "end": "03:53:03", "text": "is much older than the bottom of the"}, {"start": "03:53:01", "end": "03:53:05", "text": "ocean. So this is unlikely. The most"}, {"start": "03:53:03", "end": "03:53:08", "text": "popular explanation is the giant impact"}, {"start": "03:53:05", "end": "03:53:10", "text": "theory. This says that a large object"}, {"start": "03:53:08", "end": "03:53:12", "text": "about the size of Mars smashed into the"}, {"start": "03:53:10", "end": "03:53:15", "text": "proto earth. The debris field from the"}, {"start": "03:53:12", "end": "03:53:17", "text": "collision coalesed to create the earth"}, {"start": "03:53:15", "end": "03:53:18", "text": "moon system. Again these conditions"}, {"start": "03:53:17", "end": "03:53:19", "text": "would have to be so perfect that the"}, {"start": "03:53:18", "end": "03:53:22", "text": "odds are"}, {"start": "03:53:19", "end": "03:53:24", "text": ">> astronomical. Right now, a recent theory"}, {"start": "03:53:22", "end": "03:53:26", "text": "is a combination of all of these that a"}, {"start": "03:53:24", "end": "03:53:28", "text": "large object collided with the Earth"}, {"start": "03:53:26", "end": "03:53:30", "text": "about 4 1/2 billion years ago,"}, {"start": "03:53:28", "end": "03:53:32", "text": "essentially vaporizing it. And this"}, {"start": "03:53:30", "end": "03:53:34", "text": "vapor is called a Sinestia. And the"}, {"start": "03:53:32", "end": "03:53:37", "text": "Sinestia was spinning very rapidly,"}, {"start": "03:53:34", "end": "03:53:38", "text": "forming a Taurus. And the moon formed on"}, {"start": "03:53:37", "end": "03:53:40", "text": "the edge of this Taurus."}, {"start": "03:53:38", "end": "03:53:42", "text": ">> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on."}, {"start": "03:53:40", "end": "03:53:44", "text": "Taurus? What's a Taurus?"}, {"start": "03:53:42", "end": "03:53:47", "text": ">> Well, this shape is a Taurus."}, {"start": "03:53:44", "end": "03:53:49", "text": ">> Uh, that looks like a donut. It does."}, {"start": "03:53:47", "end": "03:53:51", "text": "But in geometry, if you revolve a circle"}, {"start": "03:53:49", "end": "03:53:53", "text": "around an axis in threedimensional"}, {"start": "03:53:51", "end": "03:53:55", "text": "space, it's called a Taurus."}, {"start": "03:53:53", "end": "03:53:56", "text": ">> And you wonder why you're not popular at"}, {"start": "03:53:55", "end": "03:54:02", "text": "parties."}, {"start": "03:53:56", "end": "03:54:02", "text": ">> I'm very popular at parties, aren't I?"}, {"start": "03:54:03", "end": "03:54:07", "text": "So, we still don't know how the moon was"}, {"start": "03:54:05", "end": "03:54:08", "text": "created. You would think that actually"}, {"start": "03:54:07", "end": "03:54:10", "text": "going to the moon and collecting rock"}, {"start": "03:54:08", "end": "03:54:12", "text": "samples would solve some of these"}, {"start": "03:54:10", "end": "03:54:14", "text": "puzzles, but when moon rocks were"}, {"start": "03:54:12", "end": "03:54:17", "text": "brought back and studied, it only"}, {"start": "03:54:14", "end": "03:54:17", "text": "created more questions."}, {"start": "03:54:26", "end": "03:54:30", "text": "Since landing on the moon in 1969, there"}, {"start": "03:54:28", "end": "03:54:31", "text": "the moon landing was as fake as a"}, {"start": "03:54:30", "end": "03:54:33", "text": "teenager's Instagram."}, {"start": "03:54:31", "end": "03:54:35", "text": ">> I knew you were going to do this. Look,"}, {"start": "03:54:33", "end": "03:54:36", "text": "do you like the idea that the moon is a"}, {"start": "03:54:35", "end": "03:54:39", "text": "hollow spaceship?"}, {"start": "03:54:36", "end": "03:54:40", "text": ">> Well, yeah. I got to admit, I I do kind"}, {"start": "03:54:39", "end": "03:54:42", "text": "of like this idea."}, {"start": "03:54:40", "end": "03:54:44", "text": ">> Okay, so for us to explore this theory,"}, {"start": "03:54:42", "end": "03:54:46", "text": "you need to concede that we went to the"}, {"start": "03:54:44", "end": "03:54:48", "text": "moon."}, {"start": "03:54:46", "end": "03:54:49", "text": "Fine, I will concede. We went to the"}, {"start": "03:54:48", "end": "03:54:49", "text": "moon."}, {"start": "03:54:49", "end": "03:54:51", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "03:54:49", "end": "03:54:53", "text": ">> But those were unmanned missions. The"}, {"start": "03:54:51", "end": "03:54:55", "text": "landings were actually filmed in a"}, {"start": "03:54:53", "end": "03:54:58", "text": "studio in Burbank, California."}, {"start": "03:54:55", "end": "03:54:59", "text": ">> Fine. I I'll take what I can get. Moon"}, {"start": "03:54:58", "end": "03:55:03", "text": "rocks and soil samples brought back from"}, {"start": "03:54:59", "end": "03:55:05", "text": "the moon are strange. On Earth, the"}, {"start": "03:55:03", "end": "03:55:07", "text": "newest rocks are at the surface, and the"}, {"start": "03:55:05", "end": "03:55:09", "text": "rock gets older as you go deeper. Now,"}, {"start": "03:55:07", "end": "03:55:12", "text": "this is obvious and logical. But on the"}, {"start": "03:55:09", "end": "03:55:14", "text": "moon, the soil on the surface is older"}, {"start": "03:55:12", "end": "03:55:16", "text": "than the rocks underneath. And the"}, {"start": "03:55:14", "end": "03:55:19", "text": "surface rocks are older than the rock"}, {"start": "03:55:16", "end": "03:55:21", "text": "underneath them. It's backwards. The"}, {"start": "03:55:19", "end": "03:55:23", "text": "only way this happens on Earth is when"}, {"start": "03:55:21", "end": "03:55:26", "text": "we drill, dig, and mine, bringing older"}, {"start": "03:55:23", "end": "03:55:28", "text": "material to the surface. But we see this"}, {"start": "03:55:26", "end": "03:55:30", "text": "all over the moon. Now, if the moon was"}, {"start": "03:55:28", "end": "03:55:33", "text": "somehow hollowed out, older rock would"}, {"start": "03:55:30", "end": "03:55:35", "text": "be on top. But the list of anomalies"}, {"start": "03:55:33", "end": "03:55:37", "text": "goes on. Typical planetary structures"}, {"start": "03:55:35", "end": "03:55:39", "text": "have denser materials toward the core"}, {"start": "03:55:37", "end": "03:55:41", "text": "and lighter materials toward the"}, {"start": "03:55:39", "end": "03:55:43", "text": "surface. On the moon, this too is"}, {"start": "03:55:41", "end": "03:55:46", "text": "reversed and no one could really explain"}, {"start": "03:55:43", "end": "03:55:48", "text": "why. The moon's surface is pockmarked by"}, {"start": "03:55:46", "end": "03:55:50", "text": "asteroid impacts that have happened for"}, {"start": "03:55:48", "end": "03:55:52", "text": "billions of years. So, you would expect"}, {"start": "03:55:50", "end": "03:55:54", "text": "the rock around the impact craters to be"}, {"start": "03:55:52", "end": "03:55:57", "text": "different ages. But there is a strange"}, {"start": "03:55:54", "end": "03:55:59", "text": "uniformity in the age of these rocks."}, {"start": "03:55:57", "end": "03:56:01", "text": "The chemical makeup of lunar dust is"}, {"start": "03:55:59", "end": "03:56:04", "text": "also very odd. If lunar dust is the"}, {"start": "03:56:01", "end": "03:56:06", "text": "result of billions of years of impacts,"}, {"start": "03:56:04", "end": "03:56:08", "text": "why does it have a different chemical"}, {"start": "03:56:06", "end": "03:56:11", "text": "makeup of the rocks around it? The moon"}, {"start": "03:56:08", "end": "03:56:13", "text": "doesn't have a magnetic field. Yet, moon"}, {"start": "03:56:11", "end": "03:56:16", "text": "rocks are strongly magnetized. The Earth"}, {"start": "03:56:13", "end": "03:56:18", "text": "is 4.6 billion years old, but the oldest"}, {"start": "03:56:16", "end": "03:56:22", "text": "rocks we found are much younger than"}, {"start": "03:56:18", "end": "03:56:23", "text": "that. Moon rocks are older, much older."}, {"start": "03:56:22", "end": "03:56:25", "text": "Some rocks have been dated to the very"}, {"start": "03:56:23", "end": "03:56:27", "text": "beginning of the solar system, and some"}, {"start": "03:56:25", "end": "03:56:31", "text": "are said to be even older than that."}, {"start": "03:56:27", "end": "03:56:34", "text": "Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 are found"}, {"start": "03:56:31", "end": "03:56:36", "text": "on the moon. This is notable because"}, {"start": "03:56:34", "end": "03:56:38", "text": "those radioactive elements don't occur"}, {"start": "03:56:36", "end": "03:56:41", "text": "naturally. The only way we see those"}, {"start": "03:56:38", "end": "03:56:43", "text": "isotopes on Earth is if we create them."}, {"start": "03:56:41", "end": "03:56:46", "text": "Titanium, chromium, and zirconium are"}, {"start": "03:56:43", "end": "03:56:48", "text": "rare on Earth. But these are found in"}, {"start": "03:56:46", "end": "03:56:50", "text": "abundance on the moon. If the Earth and"}, {"start": "03:56:48", "end": "03:56:53", "text": "Moon were formed together, why such a"}, {"start": "03:56:50", "end": "03:56:54", "text": "big discrepancy? And those metals happen"}, {"start": "03:56:53", "end": "03:56:57", "text": "to be some of the most strongest"}, {"start": "03:56:54", "end": "03:56:59", "text": "materials that are known to exist, and"}, {"start": "03:56:57", "end": "03:57:01", "text": "they're highly resistant to corrosion."}, {"start": "03:56:59", "end": "03:57:04", "text": "If you wanted to reinforce a structure,"}, {"start": "03:57:01", "end": "03:57:05", "text": "these are the metals you would use. This"}, {"start": "03:57:04", "end": "03:57:08", "text": "structural reinforcement could explain"}, {"start": "03:57:05", "end": "03:57:10", "text": "why moon craters all seem to be the same"}, {"start": "03:57:08", "end": "03:57:12", "text": "depth no matter how wide they are."}, {"start": "03:57:10", "end": "03:57:15", "text": "Shouldn't craters of different sizes be"}, {"start": "03:57:12", "end": "03:57:17", "text": "of different depths. It's as if there's"}, {"start": "03:57:15", "end": "03:57:19", "text": "a resilient metallic shell just beneath"}, {"start": "03:57:17", "end": "03:57:21", "text": "the surface of the moon preventing"}, {"start": "03:57:19", "end": "03:57:23", "text": "anything from penetrating further. Now,"}, {"start": "03:57:21", "end": "03:57:25", "text": "if there was some type of instruments on"}, {"start": "03:57:23", "end": "03:57:27", "text": "the moon's surface that could detect"}, {"start": "03:57:25", "end": "03:57:29", "text": "seismic activity, we could test the"}, {"start": "03:57:27", "end": "03:57:30", "text": "hollow moon theory by intentionally"}, {"start": "03:57:29", "end": "03:57:33", "text": "colliding objects with the moon."}, {"start": "03:57:30", "end": "03:57:33", "text": ">> This sounds like a setup. We did this,"}, {"start": "03:57:33", "end": "03:57:34", "text": "didn't we?"}, {"start": "03:57:33", "end": "03:57:36", "text": ">> We did."}, {"start": "03:57:34", "end": "03:57:36", "text": ">> And is it hollow?"}, {"start": "03:57:36", "end": "03:57:39", "text": ">> Well,"}, {"start": "03:57:36", "end": "03:57:39", "text": ">> hey."}, {"start": "03:57:47", "end": "03:57:51", "text": "After returning to the command module,"}, {"start": "03:57:49", "end": "03:57:53", "text": "the Apollo 12 crew intentionally"}, {"start": "03:57:51", "end": "03:57:56", "text": "released the lunar lander, crashing it"}, {"start": "03:57:53", "end": "03:57:58", "text": "into the moon surface. Then something"}, {"start": "03:57:56", "end": "03:58:00", "text": "very unexpected happened. Seismic"}, {"start": "03:57:58", "end": "03:58:02", "text": "measurements showed that the moon rang"}, {"start": "03:58:00", "end": "03:58:05", "text": "like a bell and reverberated for more"}, {"start": "03:58:02", "end": "03:58:07", "text": "than an hour. This was with a very small"}, {"start": "03:58:05", "end": "03:58:09", "text": "object compared to the size of the moon."}, {"start": "03:58:07", "end": "03:58:12", "text": "So during Apollo 13, an even heavier"}, {"start": "03:58:09", "end": "03:58:15", "text": "object was crashed into the surface."}, {"start": "03:58:12", "end": "03:58:18", "text": "This time the moon rang for over 3 hours"}, {"start": "03:58:15", "end": "03:58:20", "text": "and vibrations traveled to a depth of 20"}, {"start": "03:58:18", "end": "03:58:23", "text": "m. This doesn't happen on Earth."}, {"start": "03:58:20", "end": "03:58:25", "text": "Reverberations last only a few minutes"}, {"start": "03:58:23", "end": "03:58:27", "text": "because of the Earth's density. And on"}, {"start": "03:58:25", "end": "03:58:29", "text": "Earth, vibrations slowed down as they"}, {"start": "03:58:27", "end": "03:58:31", "text": "moved toward the Earth's center, where"}, {"start": "03:58:29", "end": "03:58:34", "text": "material is denser. But the vibrations"}, {"start": "03:58:31", "end": "03:58:36", "text": "on the moon actually got faster around"}, {"start": "03:58:34", "end": "03:58:39", "text": "40 mi down, indicating the interior of"}, {"start": "03:58:36", "end": "03:58:42", "text": "the moon is not only far less dense, but"}, {"start": "03:58:39", "end": "03:58:44", "text": "perhaps has large hollow cavities. The"}, {"start": "03:58:42", "end": "03:58:46", "text": "density of the moon is something that's"}, {"start": "03:58:44", "end": "03:58:49", "text": "difficult to explain. The moon is about"}, {"start": "03:58:46", "end": "03:58:52", "text": "25% the size of the Earth, but it's only"}, {"start": "03:58:49", "end": "03:58:54", "text": "about 1% of the Earth's density. If the"}, {"start": "03:58:52", "end": "03:58:56", "text": "moon were a hollow shell, this would"}, {"start": "03:58:54", "end": "03:58:58", "text": "explain that. Besides the density issue,"}, {"start": "03:58:56", "end": "03:59:00", "text": "the moon has a lot of characteristics"}, {"start": "03:58:58", "end": "03:59:02", "text": "and coincidences that we don't see"}, {"start": "03:59:00", "end": "03:59:05", "text": "anywhere else. The moon is actually more"}, {"start": "03:59:02", "end": "03:59:07", "text": "like a planet than a moon. At one"}, {"start": "03:59:05", "end": "03:59:09", "text": "quarter the Earth's size, no other"}, {"start": "03:59:07", "end": "03:59:11", "text": "object in the solar system has a moon"}, {"start": "03:59:09", "end": "03:59:13", "text": "this large. This occurs nowhere else,"}, {"start": "03:59:11", "end": "03:59:15", "text": "not in our solar system or any other"}, {"start": "03:59:13", "end": "03:59:18", "text": "solar system that we found. And the moon"}, {"start": "03:59:15", "end": "03:59:20", "text": "orbits much more closely than it should."}, {"start": "03:59:18", "end": "03:59:23", "text": "And its orbit is also a mystery. It's"}, {"start": "03:59:20", "end": "03:59:25", "text": "the only object we've ever observed with"}, {"start": "03:59:23", "end": "03:59:27", "text": "a near perfectly circular orbit. We"}, {"start": "03:59:25", "end": "03:59:29", "text": "don't see this anywhere else either."}, {"start": "03:59:27", "end": "03:59:31", "text": "Because of this near perfect orbit and"}, {"start": "03:59:29", "end": "03:59:34", "text": "its size and distance from the Earth,"}, {"start": "03:59:31", "end": "03:59:36", "text": "the moon appears in the sky as almost"}, {"start": "03:59:34", "end": "03:59:39", "text": "the exact same size as the sun. This is"}, {"start": "03:59:36", "end": "03:59:41", "text": "what allows us to have eclipses. Our"}, {"start": "03:59:39", "end": "03:59:43", "text": "distance to the sun is 400 times our"}, {"start": "03:59:41", "end": "03:59:46", "text": "distance to the moon. And the size of"}, {"start": "03:59:43", "end": "03:59:48", "text": "the sun is 400 times the size of the"}, {"start": "03:59:46", "end": "03:59:51", "text": "moon. Could this be a coincidence?"}, {"start": "03:59:48", "end": "03:59:53", "text": ">> Nah. Well, when enough coincidences pile"}, {"start": "03:59:51", "end": "03:59:55", "text": "up, we may have to adjust our thinking"}, {"start": "03:59:53", "end": "03:59:58", "text": "and be a little more open-minded. And"}, {"start": "03:59:55", "end": "04:00:00", "text": "that's what happened in 1970. Two Soviet"}, {"start": "03:59:58", "end": "04:00:02", "text": "scientists looked at all the evidence"}, {"start": "04:00:00", "end": "04:00:05", "text": "and all these coincidences and came to"}, {"start": "04:00:02", "end": "04:00:06", "text": "what they felt was the only logical"}, {"start": "04:00:05", "end": "04:00:09", "text": "conclusion. And they agreed that their"}, {"start": "04:00:06", "end": "04:00:11", "text": "theory sounded crazy, but said not only"}, {"start": "04:00:09", "end": "04:00:13", "text": "is the moon hollow, but it's also a"}, {"start": "04:00:11", "end": "04:00:17", "text": "spacecraft that traveled here in the"}, {"start": "04:00:13", "end": "04:00:20", "text": "distant past. So now we have to ask, who"}, {"start": "04:00:17", "end": "04:00:20", "text": "built the moon?"}, {"start": "04:00:31", "end": "04:00:35", "text": "Every ancient culture on Earth has"}, {"start": "04:00:33", "end": "04:00:36", "text": "stories about the moon. But it's"}, {"start": "04:00:35", "end": "04:00:39", "text": "interesting that the further back you"}, {"start": "04:00:36", "end": "04:00:40", "text": "go, the fewer stories there are. And if"}, {"start": "04:00:39", "end": "04:00:42", "text": "you go back far enough, there are"}, {"start": "04:00:40", "end": "04:00:45", "text": "stories that talk about a sky before the"}, {"start": "04:00:42", "end": "04:00:47", "text": "moon arrived. Roman and Greek authors in"}, {"start": "04:00:45", "end": "04:00:49", "text": "the fifth century BC have stories about"}, {"start": "04:00:47", "end": "04:00:52", "text": "the procelines and they lived in an area"}, {"start": "04:00:49", "end": "04:00:53", "text": "called Arcadia and they said they've"}, {"start": "04:00:52", "end": "04:00:55", "text": "been here since before there was a moon"}, {"start": "04:00:53", "end": "04:00:58", "text": "in the heavens. Now on the other side of"}, {"start": "04:00:55", "end": "04:01:00", "text": "the world the ancient culture of Tuanaka"}, {"start": "04:00:58", "end": "04:01:03", "text": "in Bolivia also refers to a time when"}, {"start": "04:01:00", "end": "04:01:06", "text": "there was no moon. The Tuanaka claim the"}, {"start": "04:01:03", "end": "04:01:08", "text": "moon arrived between 11,500"}, {"start": "04:01:06", "end": "04:01:11", "text": "and 13,000 years ago. If you're into"}, {"start": "04:01:08", "end": "04:01:12", "text": "ancient theories as much as I am, you'll"}, {"start": "04:01:11", "end": "04:01:14", "text": "recognize that this time coincides"}, {"start": "04:01:12", "end": "04:01:17", "text": "perfectly with a period called the"}, {"start": "04:01:14", "end": "04:01:18", "text": "younger Dus. And all kinds of myths and"}, {"start": "04:01:17", "end": "04:01:21", "text": "mysteries are said to have happened"}, {"start": "04:01:18", "end": "04:01:23", "text": "during the Younger Dus, and we'll cover"}, {"start": "04:01:21", "end": "04:01:25", "text": "them on this channel. Now, going back to"}, {"start": "04:01:23", "end": "04:01:27", "text": "Africa, there are Zulu legends that"}, {"start": "04:01:25", "end": "04:01:30", "text": "specifically say the moon is hollow and"}, {"start": "04:01:27", "end": "04:01:32", "text": "living inside is an intelligent race of"}, {"start": "04:01:30", "end": "04:01:33", "text": "reptilian extraterrestrials."}, {"start": "04:01:32", "end": "04:01:33", "text": ">> Lizard people."}, {"start": "04:01:33", "end": "04:01:36", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "04:01:33", "end": "04:01:38", "text": ">> Lizard people built the moon."}, {"start": "04:01:36", "end": "04:01:39", "text": ">> That's what they believe. Lizard people"}, {"start": "04:01:38", "end": "04:01:42", "text": "are very industrious."}, {"start": "04:01:39", "end": "04:01:44", "text": ">> They seem to be. The Zula believed the"}, {"start": "04:01:42", "end": "04:01:46", "text": "moon was put into orbit by two brothers"}, {"start": "04:01:44", "end": "04:01:48", "text": "who were gods. And this legend is"}, {"start": "04:01:46", "end": "04:01:50", "text": "similar to what the Samrians believed."}, {"start": "04:01:48", "end": "04:01:53", "text": "The Samrians also had a legend of two"}, {"start": "04:01:50", "end": "04:01:53", "text": "brothers, Enkien and Leil, who were"}, {"start": "04:01:53", "end": "04:01:54", "text": "called"}, {"start": "04:01:53", "end": "04:01:58", "text": ">> Anunnaki."}, {"start": "04:01:54", "end": "04:01:59", "text": ">> Yep. Anunnaki. The extraterrestrial gods"}, {"start": "04:01:58", "end": "04:02:01", "text": "who created mankind."}, {"start": "04:01:59", "end": "04:02:01", "text": ">> Everything is falling into place with"}, {"start": "04:02:01", "end": "04:02:03", "text": "this one."}, {"start": "04:02:01", "end": "04:02:05", "text": ">> Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. How"}, {"start": "04:02:03", "end": "04:02:07", "text": "about this? The Zulu also believed that"}, {"start": "04:02:05", "end": "04:02:09", "text": "before the moon arrived, the climate of"}, {"start": "04:02:07", "end": "04:02:12", "text": "the Earth was very different. There were"}, {"start": "04:02:09", "end": "04:02:14", "text": "no seasons and a blanket of thick water"}, {"start": "04:02:12", "end": "04:02:16", "text": "vapor covered the entire planet. And we"}, {"start": "04:02:14", "end": "04:02:18", "text": "now know that the moon does stabilize"}, {"start": "04:02:16", "end": "04:02:20", "text": "our climate. Without the moon's gravity,"}, {"start": "04:02:18", "end": "04:02:22", "text": "the Earth's axis would wobble. There"}, {"start": "04:02:20", "end": "04:02:25", "text": "would be no consistent seasons, no"}, {"start": "04:02:22", "end": "04:02:27", "text": "tides, extreme weather. The presence of"}, {"start": "04:02:25", "end": "04:02:30", "text": "the moon is what allows life on Earth to"}, {"start": "04:02:27", "end": "04:02:32", "text": "thrive. So, back to the Zulu. The Earth"}, {"start": "04:02:30", "end": "04:02:34", "text": "was covered by a thick layer of water"}, {"start": "04:02:32", "end": "04:02:36", "text": "vapor, and you could only see the sun"}, {"start": "04:02:34", "end": "04:02:38", "text": "through this hazy mist. When the moon"}, {"start": "04:02:36", "end": "04:02:40", "text": "was finally placed into orbit, all this"}, {"start": "04:02:38", "end": "04:02:43", "text": "water vapor fell at once, and it created"}, {"start": "04:02:40", "end": "04:02:44", "text": "a cataclysmic global flood."}, {"start": "04:02:43", "end": "04:02:47", "text": ">> Always a flood."}, {"start": "04:02:44", "end": "04:02:49", "text": ">> Always. Every time. Every ancient"}, {"start": "04:02:47", "end": "04:02:51", "text": "culture has a flood myth. And there's"}, {"start": "04:02:49", "end": "04:02:54", "text": "mounting evidence that this did indeed"}, {"start": "04:02:51", "end": "04:02:55", "text": "happen during the Younger Dus. Cultures"}, {"start": "04:02:54", "end": "04:02:57", "text": "around the world have myths that are in"}, {"start": "04:02:55", "end": "04:03:00", "text": "perfect sync with each other. The"}, {"start": "04:02:57", "end": "04:03:02", "text": "coincidences keep piling up. The Zulu"}, {"start": "04:03:00", "end": "04:03:04", "text": "legend talks about how the arrival of"}, {"start": "04:03:02", "end": "04:03:06", "text": "the moon changed the tides and"}, {"start": "04:03:04", "end": "04:03:08", "text": "stabilized the climate. And this is"}, {"start": "04:03:06", "end": "04:03:10", "text": "something that wasn't understood by"}, {"start": "04:03:08", "end": "04:03:13", "text": "science until the past 100 years. Yet"}, {"start": "04:03:10", "end": "04:03:14", "text": "somehow the ancient Zulu were able to"}, {"start": "04:03:13", "end": "04:03:17", "text": "make the connection between the moon and"}, {"start": "04:03:14", "end": "04:03:19", "text": "the tides and the seasons. All of these"}, {"start": "04:03:17", "end": "04:03:21", "text": "myths and legends, plus strange"}, {"start": "04:03:19", "end": "04:03:23", "text": "coincidences and anomalies about the"}, {"start": "04:03:21", "end": "04:03:26", "text": "moon, start to add up to a compelling"}, {"start": "04:03:23", "end": "04:03:28", "text": "theory that the moon is hollow, is"}, {"start": "04:03:26", "end": "04:03:31", "text": "artificial, and was placed here by"}, {"start": "04:03:28", "end": "04:03:34", "text": "intelligent beings long ago. But"}, {"start": "04:03:31", "end": "04:03:35", "text": "coincidences aren't proof, and myths"}, {"start": "04:03:34", "end": "04:03:37", "text": "aren't proof. We need to know what's"}, {"start": "04:03:35", "end": "04:03:39", "text": "been happening on the moon lately to see"}, {"start": "04:03:37", "end": "04:03:42", "text": "if we can make our case with hard"}, {"start": "04:03:39", "end": "04:03:45", "text": "evidence. Lucky for us, the evidence is"}, {"start": "04:03:42", "end": "04:03:45", "text": "there."}, {"start": "04:03:53", "end": "04:03:57", "text": "Science tells us that the moon is a"}, {"start": "04:03:55", "end": "04:03:59", "text": "cold, lifeless place. It has no"}, {"start": "04:03:57", "end": "04:04:02", "text": "atmosphere. There hasn't been seismic"}, {"start": "04:03:59", "end": "04:04:05", "text": "activity for millions of years. Its"}, {"start": "04:04:02", "end": "04:04:07", "text": "core, unlike the Earth's, is cold. For"}, {"start": "04:04:05", "end": "04:04:09", "text": "supposedly dead world, there's an awful"}, {"start": "04:04:07", "end": "04:04:12", "text": "lot of activity up there. On March 7th,"}, {"start": "04:04:09", "end": "04:04:15", "text": "1971, a cloud of water vapor appeared on"}, {"start": "04:04:12", "end": "04:04:17", "text": "the moon that covered 100 square miles."}, {"start": "04:04:15", "end": "04:04:19", "text": "And it was there for 14 hours before it"}, {"start": "04:04:17", "end": "04:04:21", "text": "dissipated. There's not supposed to be"}, {"start": "04:04:19", "end": "04:04:23", "text": "atmosphere on the moon, but for those 14"}, {"start": "04:04:21", "end": "04:04:26", "text": "hours, there was. In fact, six"}, {"start": "04:04:23", "end": "04:04:28", "text": "astronomers in the past 100 years have"}, {"start": "04:04:26", "end": "04:04:31", "text": "documented a glowing mist in the crater"}, {"start": "04:04:28", "end": "04:04:34", "text": "named Plato. The same mist, the same"}, {"start": "04:04:31", "end": "04:04:36", "text": "crater over many years. Boulder tracks"}, {"start": "04:04:34", "end": "04:04:38", "text": "are seen on the moon all over the place."}, {"start": "04:04:36", "end": "04:04:41", "text": "And that's weird enough, but how do"}, {"start": "04:04:38", "end": "04:04:44", "text": "boulders roll for miles and then go"}, {"start": "04:04:41", "end": "04:04:46", "text": "uphill like in this photo? And since the"}, {"start": "04:04:44", "end": "04:04:48", "text": "days of Aristotle, astronomers have seen"}, {"start": "04:04:46", "end": "04:04:50", "text": "strange lights appear on the surface of"}, {"start": "04:04:48", "end": "04:04:52", "text": "the moon, sometimes visible with the"}, {"start": "04:04:50", "end": "04:04:56", "text": "naked eye. NASA even reported that"}, {"start": "04:04:52", "end": "04:04:58", "text": "between the years 1540 and 1967, there"}, {"start": "04:04:56", "end": "04:05:01", "text": "were 570 sightings of light flashes on"}, {"start": "04:04:58", "end": "04:05:03", "text": "the moon that couldn't be explained."}, {"start": "04:05:01", "end": "04:05:05", "text": "Sightings of strange lights continued to"}, {"start": "04:05:03", "end": "04:05:08", "text": "this day. The Aristarus crater was"}, {"start": "04:05:05", "end": "04:05:10", "text": "photographed in 1992, and it shows a"}, {"start": "04:05:08", "end": "04:05:12", "text": "glowing blue light, now called the blue"}, {"start": "04:05:10", "end": "04:05:14", "text": "gem. And this anomaly has been seen by"}, {"start": "04:05:12", "end": "04:05:17", "text": "Earth-based telescopes every few years"}, {"start": "04:05:14", "end": "04:05:19", "text": "since. Some have even speculated it's a"}, {"start": "04:05:17", "end": "04:05:21", "text": "fusion reactor. And these events of"}, {"start": "04:05:19", "end": "04:05:23", "text": "mysterious light and mist happen so"}, {"start": "04:05:21", "end": "04:05:26", "text": "frequently that there's even a name for"}, {"start": "04:05:23", "end": "04:05:28", "text": "them, transient lunar phenomena, or"}, {"start": "04:05:26", "end": "04:05:30", "text": "TLPS. But things get even more weird."}, {"start": "04:05:28", "end": "04:05:33", "text": "There are plenty of photographs of what"}, {"start": "04:05:30", "end": "04:05:35", "text": "appear to be artificial objects on the"}, {"start": "04:05:33", "end": "04:05:38", "text": "surface of the moon. Towers that reach"}, {"start": "04:05:35", "end": "04:05:40", "text": "several miles high. Pyramids,"}, {"start": "04:05:38", "end": "04:05:42", "text": "symmetrical structures. These have been"}, {"start": "04:05:40", "end": "04:05:44", "text": "photographed by astronomers, probes,"}, {"start": "04:05:42", "end": "04:05:46", "text": "even the astronauts themselves. And the"}, {"start": "04:05:44", "end": "04:05:49", "text": "biggest anomaly of all, why haven't we"}, {"start": "04:05:46", "end": "04:05:51", "text": "gone back to the moon? Sergeant Carl"}, {"start": "04:05:49", "end": "04:05:53", "text": "Wolf was working as a technician for the"}, {"start": "04:05:51", "end": "04:05:55", "text": "Air Force. And he was repairing"}, {"start": "04:05:53", "end": "04:05:57", "text": "equipment that transferred images from a"}, {"start": "04:05:55", "end": "04:06:00", "text": "lunar satellite. Those photos, according"}, {"start": "04:05:57", "end": "04:06:02", "text": "to Sergeant Wolf, showed artificial"}, {"start": "04:06:00", "end": "04:06:04", "text": "structures on the moon, what he"}, {"start": "04:06:02", "end": "04:06:06", "text": "described as a base. And this is"}, {"start": "04:06:04", "end": "04:06:08", "text": "corroborated by another technician"}, {"start": "04:06:06", "end": "04:06:11", "text": "working with Wolf. And Wolf wasn't a UFO"}, {"start": "04:06:08", "end": "04:06:13", "text": "ET, moon theory guy. He was just a tech."}, {"start": "04:06:11", "end": "04:06:15", "text": "He said he was excited to see the"}, {"start": "04:06:13", "end": "04:06:17", "text": "pictures on the news and have NASA"}, {"start": "04:06:15", "end": "04:06:19", "text": "explain what they were. He was surprised"}, {"start": "04:06:17", "end": "04:06:21", "text": "when the photos never turned up. The"}, {"start": "04:06:19", "end": "04:06:24", "text": "photos were found in a very early"}, {"start": "04:06:21", "end": "04:06:26", "text": "release from NASA. These structures are"}, {"start": "04:06:24", "end": "04:06:28", "text": "very large and very tall. You can even"}, {"start": "04:06:26", "end": "04:06:30", "text": "see they cast shadows. And these are"}, {"start": "04:06:28", "end": "04:06:33", "text": "photos I'd like to learn more about, but"}, {"start": "04:06:30", "end": "04:06:35", "text": "I can't. They no longer exist. Now,"}, {"start": "04:06:33", "end": "04:06:37", "text": "almost immediately after landing on the"}, {"start": "04:06:35", "end": "04:06:39", "text": "moon, the Apollo 11 crew said they saw"}, {"start": "04:06:37", "end": "04:06:41", "text": "something that shook them up. Watch the"}, {"start": "04:06:39", "end": "04:06:43", "text": "press conference they gave when they"}, {"start": "04:06:41", "end": "04:06:45", "text": "returned. These men aren't acting like"}, {"start": "04:06:43", "end": "04:06:47", "text": "they made history or had a life-changing"}, {"start": "04:06:45", "end": "04:06:51", "text": "experience."}, {"start": "04:06:47", "end": "04:06:54", "text": "It's a beginning of"}, {"start": "04:06:51", "end": "04:06:54", "text": "a new age."}, {"start": "04:06:59", "end": "04:07:05", "text": "They look sad, frightened,"}, {"start": "04:07:01", "end": "04:07:06", "text": "uncomfortable, even depressed. Why is"}, {"start": "04:07:05", "end": "04:07:08", "text": "there a reason we haven't returned to"}, {"start": "04:07:06", "end": "04:07:10", "text": "the moon? And could it be that the"}, {"start": "04:07:08", "end": "04:07:12", "text": "Apollo missions discovered something"}, {"start": "04:07:10", "end": "04:07:15", "text": "that ancient cultures knew centuries"}, {"start": "04:07:12", "end": "04:07:17", "text": "ago? something that reputable scientists"}, {"start": "04:07:15", "end": "04:07:19", "text": "believe is the only answer to this list"}, {"start": "04:07:17", "end": "04:07:22", "text": "of mysteries. That the moon is not what"}, {"start": "04:07:19", "end": "04:07:23", "text": "it seems or what we've been told. The"}, {"start": "04:07:22", "end": "04:07:25", "text": "moon is hollow, artificially"}, {"start": "04:07:23", "end": "04:07:28", "text": "constructed, and appeared in Earth's"}, {"start": "04:07:25", "end": "04:07:30", "text": "orbit from somewhere else far away."}, {"start": "04:07:28", "end": "04:07:34", "text": ">> Makes sense to me."}, {"start": "04:07:30", "end": "04:07:34", "text": ">> Does it make sense to you?"}, {"start": "04:07:34", "end": "04:07:39", "text": "So, what can science explain about the"}, {"start": "04:07:36", "end": "04:07:41", "text": "Hollow Moon spaceship theory? Well, the"}, {"start": "04:07:39", "end": "04:07:44", "text": "formation of the moon is still unknown."}, {"start": "04:07:41", "end": "04:07:46", "text": "So, score theory one. Science zero. The"}, {"start": "04:07:44", "end": "04:07:48", "text": "density problem is said to be because"}, {"start": "04:07:46", "end": "04:07:50", "text": "after the giant impact, the Earth's"}, {"start": "04:07:48", "end": "04:07:53", "text": "upper mantle form the moon. The mantle"}, {"start": "04:07:50", "end": "04:07:54", "text": "is much less dense than the core. Okay."}, {"start": "04:07:53", "end": "04:07:56", "text": "The problem with this is the giant"}, {"start": "04:07:54", "end": "04:07:58", "text": "impact theory probably isn't what"}, {"start": "04:07:56", "end": "04:08:00", "text": "happened. And the theory about the Earth"}, {"start": "04:07:58", "end": "04:08:01", "text": "and the Moon forming out of that big"}, {"start": "04:08:00", "end": "04:08:05", "text": "donut shape."}, {"start": "04:08:01", "end": "04:08:06", "text": ">> Um, in geometry that's called a Taurus."}, {"start": "04:08:05", "end": "04:08:08", "text": ">> Taurus."}, {"start": "04:08:06", "end": "04:08:10", "text": "Well, that wouldn't explain the density"}, {"start": "04:08:08", "end": "04:08:12", "text": "discrepancy. We're told the moon ringing"}, {"start": "04:08:10", "end": "04:08:14", "text": "like a bell is because the moon is much"}, {"start": "04:08:12", "end": "04:08:17", "text": "less dense and the moon's rock has much"}, {"start": "04:08:14", "end": "04:08:19", "text": "less water, so vibrations reverberate"}, {"start": "04:08:17", "end": "04:08:22", "text": "longer and farther. This can't be"}, {"start": "04:08:19", "end": "04:08:24", "text": "proven, but okay. The perfect eclipses."}, {"start": "04:08:22", "end": "04:08:26", "text": "Well, here's where science wins. The"}, {"start": "04:08:24", "end": "04:08:29", "text": "eclipses aren't exact. They're close,"}, {"start": "04:08:26", "end": "04:08:31", "text": "but not perfect. Besides, the moon is"}, {"start": "04:08:29", "end": "04:08:33", "text": "drifting farther away from the Earth"}, {"start": "04:08:31", "end": "04:08:35", "text": "every year. So, eclipses are becoming"}, {"start": "04:08:33", "end": "04:08:37", "text": "less and less perfect all the time. And"}, {"start": "04:08:35", "end": "04:08:40", "text": "whether the moon arrived 14,000 years"}, {"start": "04:08:37", "end": "04:08:42", "text": "ago or was formed billions of years ago,"}, {"start": "04:08:40", "end": "04:08:45", "text": "it was much closer to the Earth, so it"}, {"start": "04:08:42", "end": "04:08:46", "text": "was much larger in the sky. Now, NASA"}, {"start": "04:08:45", "end": "04:08:49", "text": "claims that we know the moon isn't"}, {"start": "04:08:46", "end": "04:08:51", "text": "hollow because of seismic observations."}, {"start": "04:08:49", "end": "04:08:53", "text": "And that's fair, but it's still"}, {"start": "04:08:51", "end": "04:08:55", "text": "conjecture. Look, we don't know for sure"}, {"start": "04:08:53", "end": "04:08:57", "text": "what's at the center of the Earth, much"}, {"start": "04:08:55", "end": "04:08:58", "text": "less what's at the center of the moon,"}, {"start": "04:08:57", "end": "04:09:01", "text": ">> if there's anything at all."}, {"start": "04:08:58", "end": "04:09:02", "text": ">> Right now, the structures are said to be"}, {"start": "04:09:01", "end": "04:09:05", "text": "shadows or optical illusions."}, {"start": "04:09:02", "end": "04:09:07", "text": ">> Nope. And the lights are from meteor"}, {"start": "04:09:05", "end": "04:09:09", "text": "impacts or reflections from glassy"}, {"start": "04:09:07", "end": "04:09:11", "text": "patches on the surface. Nope. But the"}, {"start": "04:09:09", "end": "04:09:14", "text": "bottom line is this. Yes, the hollow"}, {"start": "04:09:11", "end": "04:09:16", "text": "moon spaceship theory is a wild one. I"}, {"start": "04:09:14", "end": "04:09:18", "text": "admit that. And many of the anomalies"}, {"start": "04:09:16", "end": "04:09:20", "text": "found on the moon can be explained. The"}, {"start": "04:09:18", "end": "04:09:22", "text": "explanations aren't perfect, but they're"}, {"start": "04:09:20", "end": "04:09:24", "text": "enough to satisfy skeptics. And I"}, {"start": "04:09:22", "end": "04:09:26", "text": "consider myself a skeptic. But I'm"}, {"start": "04:09:24", "end": "04:09:28", "text": "open-minded. I just want to know the"}, {"start": "04:09:26", "end": "04:09:30", "text": "truth. When I started researching this"}, {"start": "04:09:28", "end": "04:09:33", "text": "story, I thought it would be a fun ride,"}, {"start": "04:09:30", "end": "04:09:35", "text": "a pure tinfoil hat experience that we"}, {"start": "04:09:33", "end": "04:09:37", "text": "could button up with science. That's not"}, {"start": "04:09:35", "end": "04:09:40", "text": "what happened. There's just so much"}, {"start": "04:09:37", "end": "04:09:42", "text": "unknown and unexplainable that something"}, {"start": "04:09:40", "end": "04:09:44", "text": "doesn't feel right about what we've been"}, {"start": "04:09:42", "end": "04:09:46", "text": "told about the moon. But as always, the"}, {"start": "04:09:44", "end": "04:09:48", "text": "space agencies and the governments they"}, {"start": "04:09:46", "end": "04:09:51", "text": "serve are very selective about the"}, {"start": "04:09:48", "end": "04:09:53", "text": "images and information they release. So,"}, {"start": "04:09:51", "end": "04:09:56", "text": "I have a message for them. for NASA, the"}, {"start": "04:09:53", "end": "04:09:59", "text": "European Space Agency, Russia, China,"}, {"start": "04:09:56", "end": "04:10:01", "text": "Elon Musk, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos,"}, {"start": "04:09:59", "end": "04:10:03", "text": "and anyone with the resources to put"}, {"start": "04:10:01", "end": "04:10:05", "text": "people back on the moon. The message is"}, {"start": "04:10:03", "end": "04:10:06", "text": "this. If you want us to believe your"}, {"start": "04:10:05", "end": "04:10:10", "text": "explanations,"}, {"start": "04:10:06", "end": "04:10:10", "text": "you're going to have to prove it."}, {"start": "04:10:13", "end": "04:10:18", "text": "Houston, Houston, come in, Houston."}, {"start": "04:10:16", "end": "04:10:22", "text": "Beep."}, {"start": "04:10:18", "end": "04:10:24", "text": "Houston, we have a problem. Beep."}, {"start": "04:10:22", "end": "04:10:26", "text": "Houston, we have an iate goldfish"}, {"start": "04:10:24", "end": "04:10:28", "text": "complaining about cheap vodka. Please"}, {"start": "04:10:26", "end": "04:10:30", "text": "advise. Beep. While we're waiting for"}, {"start": "04:10:28", "end": "04:10:34", "text": "the vodka issue to be resolved, let's"}, {"start": "04:10:30", "end": "04:10:37", "text": "play another episode, shall we?"}, {"start": "04:10:34", "end": "04:10:39", "text": "Next one was chosen by Deputy Joe. Good"}, {"start": "04:10:37", "end": "04:10:41", "text": "old Joe. Joe does lots of different"}, {"start": "04:10:39", "end": "04:10:44", "text": "things here with the stage, the control"}, {"start": "04:10:41", "end": "04:10:47", "text": "room. Heck, the guy even does carpentry."}, {"start": "04:10:44", "end": "04:10:50", "text": "Hands off, ladies. He's married. Okay,"}, {"start": "04:10:47", "end": "04:10:51", "text": "Joe's episode is about Yay, Giants."}, {"start": "04:10:50", "end": "04:10:54", "text": "Woohoo."}, {"start": "04:10:51", "end": "04:10:56", "text": "You know what comes next?"}, {"start": "04:10:54", "end": "04:11:00", "text": ">> Roll it."}, {"start": "04:10:56", "end": "04:11:02", "text": ">> In 1886, mining engineer John T. Reed"}, {"start": "04:11:00", "end": "04:11:05", "text": "was told the Pyute legend about a race"}, {"start": "04:11:02", "end": "04:11:07", "text": "of giants. Giants who, after a long and"}, {"start": "04:11:05", "end": "04:11:09", "text": "bloody war, were defeated by the natives"}, {"start": "04:11:07", "end": "04:11:11", "text": "near Lovelock Cave, Nevada. Reed's"}, {"start": "04:11:09", "end": "04:11:13", "text": "belief in this legend stirred great"}, {"start": "04:11:11", "end": "04:11:15", "text": "interest in the secrets held within"}, {"start": "04:11:13", "end": "04:11:19", "text": "Lovelock Cave. Official excavations were"}, {"start": "04:11:15", "end": "04:11:21", "text": "undertaken in both 1912 and 1924 by the"}, {"start": "04:11:19", "end": "04:11:23", "text": "University of California with reports"}, {"start": "04:11:21", "end": "04:11:26", "text": "telling of thousands of artifacts being"}, {"start": "04:11:23", "end": "04:11:28", "text": "recovered. Of these artifacts, the most"}, {"start": "04:11:26", "end": "04:11:31", "text": "puzzling were human remains. Well, they"}, {"start": "04:11:28", "end": "04:11:34", "text": "were almost human. Skeletons measuring"}, {"start": "04:11:31", "end": "04:11:35", "text": "between 8 and 10 ft tall were said to be"}, {"start": "04:11:34", "end": "04:11:38", "text": "found during the dig. Skeletons"}, {"start": "04:11:35", "end": "04:11:40", "text": "belonging to who are now known as the"}, {"start": "04:11:38", "end": "04:11:42", "text": "Lovelock giants. Legends of people of"}, {"start": "04:11:40", "end": "04:11:45", "text": "enormous size are told across a myriad"}, {"start": "04:11:42", "end": "04:11:47", "text": "of cultures. And despite what we've been"}, {"start": "04:11:45", "end": "04:11:49", "text": "told by mainstream science, there is"}, {"start": "04:11:47", "end": "04:11:51", "text": "evidence to suggest they really existed."}, {"start": "04:11:49", "end": "04:11:54", "text": "The remains of giants have been found"}, {"start": "04:11:51", "end": "04:11:57", "text": "all over the US and all over the world."}, {"start": "04:11:54", "end": "04:11:59", "text": "So why aren't these amazing finds on"}, {"start": "04:11:57", "end": "04:12:01", "text": "display in any museum or taught in any"}, {"start": "04:11:59", "end": "04:12:03", "text": "classes or mentioned in any history"}, {"start": "04:12:01", "end": "04:12:06", "text": "books? Well, it's because the existence"}, {"start": "04:12:03", "end": "04:12:09", "text": "of giants, for some reason, has been"}, {"start": "04:12:06", "end": "04:12:09", "text": "covered up."}, {"start": "04:12:14", "end": "04:12:18", "text": "To say giants don't turn up in history"}, {"start": "04:12:16", "end": "04:12:20", "text": "books isn't exactly accurate. Many"}, {"start": "04:12:18", "end": "04:12:23", "text": "ancient cultures refer to giants. In"}, {"start": "04:12:20", "end": "04:12:25", "text": "Indian mythology or the vadas, there was"}, {"start": "04:12:23", "end": "04:12:28", "text": "a time called the satyauga or the golden"}, {"start": "04:12:25", "end": "04:12:30", "text": "age when all of humanity existed in"}, {"start": "04:12:28", "end": "04:12:32", "text": "complete harmony. Humans during this"}, {"start": "04:12:30", "end": "04:12:34", "text": "time were believed to be 32 feet tall."}, {"start": "04:12:32", "end": "04:12:35", "text": "In the Old Testament, there are beings"}, {"start": "04:12:34", "end": "04:12:37", "text": "called the Nephilim, and they're"}, {"start": "04:12:35", "end": "04:12:39", "text": "mentioned in Genesis."}, {"start": "04:12:37", "end": "04:12:42", "text": ">> There were giants in the earth in those"}, {"start": "04:12:39", "end": "04:12:44", "text": "days, and also after that, when the sons"}, {"start": "04:12:42", "end": "04:12:47", "text": "of God came in unto the daughters of"}, {"start": "04:12:44", "end": "04:12:48", "text": "men, and they bare children to them, the"}, {"start": "04:12:47", "end": "04:12:51", "text": "same became mighty men which were of"}, {"start": "04:12:48", "end": "04:12:53", "text": "old, men of renown."}, {"start": "04:12:51", "end": "04:12:56", "text": ">> One interpretation of this suggests that"}, {"start": "04:12:53", "end": "04:12:58", "text": "the sons of God were giant fallen angels"}, {"start": "04:12:56", "end": "04:13:00", "text": "who seduced human women, and their"}, {"start": "04:12:58", "end": "04:13:03", "text": "offspring were the Nephilim. Well, how"}, {"start": "04:13:00", "end": "04:13:04", "text": "does a giant seduce a human woman?"}, {"start": "04:13:03", "end": "04:13:06", "text": ">> Oh, right."}, {"start": "04:13:04", "end": "04:13:08", "text": ">> Giants show up quite a bit in the book"}, {"start": "04:13:06", "end": "04:13:10", "text": "of Enoch, one of the religious texts"}, {"start": "04:13:08", "end": "04:13:12", "text": "found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. The"}, {"start": "04:13:10", "end": "04:13:14", "text": "Nephilim were said to have been men of"}, {"start": "04:13:12", "end": "04:13:17", "text": "the old times who existed before the"}, {"start": "04:13:14", "end": "04:13:19", "text": "great flood. Ancient Indian texts say"}, {"start": "04:13:17", "end": "04:13:21", "text": "the same thing. The book of Samuel also"}, {"start": "04:13:19", "end": "04:13:23", "text": "introduces us to one of the most famous"}, {"start": "04:13:21", "end": "04:13:24", "text": "giants in history,"}, {"start": "04:13:23", "end": "04:13:25", "text": ">> Andre"}, {"start": "04:13:24", "end": "04:13:28", "text": ">> Goliath."}, {"start": "04:13:25", "end": "04:13:30", "text": "Goliath was a Philistine warrior who"}, {"start": "04:13:28", "end": "04:13:32", "text": "challenged the Israelites to send out a"}, {"start": "04:13:30", "end": "04:13:35", "text": "champion for single combat. David, armed"}, {"start": "04:13:32", "end": "04:13:37", "text": "only with a slingshot and faith in God,"}, {"start": "04:13:35", "end": "04:13:39", "text": "brought the giant down with a single"}, {"start": "04:13:37", "end": "04:13:42", "text": "stone. Goliath was said to be between 7"}, {"start": "04:13:39", "end": "04:13:44", "text": "and 11 ft tall and possibly descended"}, {"start": "04:13:42", "end": "04:13:46", "text": "from a people known as the Anakites or"}, {"start": "04:13:44", "end": "04:13:48", "text": "the Anakim. And the Anakim were"}, {"start": "04:13:46", "end": "04:13:50", "text": "descended from the Nephilim. But"}, {"start": "04:13:48", "end": "04:13:53", "text": "references to giants in history go back"}, {"start": "04:13:50", "end": "04:13:55", "text": "even further. The ancient Samrians had"}, {"start": "04:13:53", "end": "04:13:58", "text": "an equivalent to the Anakim, a race of"}, {"start": "04:13:55", "end": "04:13:58", "text": "gods who are sometimes described as"}, {"start": "04:13:58", "end": "04:14:00", "text": "giants."}, {"start": "04:13:58", "end": "04:14:02", "text": ">> Anunnaki."}, {"start": "04:14:00", "end": "04:14:04", "text": ">> Yep. The Anunnaki. And if you don't know"}, {"start": "04:14:02", "end": "04:14:08", "text": "who the Anunnaki are, here's a hint."}, {"start": "04:14:04", "end": "04:14:08", "text": "Look in the mirror."}, {"start": "04:14:12", "end": "04:14:16", "text": "According to interpretations of ancient"}, {"start": "04:14:14", "end": "04:14:19", "text": "Samrian and Babylonian texts, the"}, {"start": "04:14:16", "end": "04:14:21", "text": "Anunnaki were a race of extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "04:14:19", "end": "04:14:23", "text": "beings from the planet Nibiru. Now,"}, {"start": "04:14:21", "end": "04:14:25", "text": "Nibiru is not some distant planet on the"}, {"start": "04:14:23", "end": "04:14:28", "text": "other side of the galaxy, but is right"}, {"start": "04:14:25", "end": "04:14:30", "text": "here in our own solar system. It passes"}, {"start": "04:14:28", "end": "04:14:32", "text": "near Earth every 3600 years. And this"}, {"start": "04:14:30", "end": "04:14:35", "text": "extra planet theory was dismissed as"}, {"start": "04:14:32", "end": "04:14:37", "text": "pseudocience for many years, but it's"}, {"start": "04:14:35", "end": "04:14:39", "text": "now widely believed that there is an"}, {"start": "04:14:37", "end": "04:14:41", "text": "extra planet or some kind of large"}, {"start": "04:14:39", "end": "04:14:44", "text": "object in the far reaches of our solar"}, {"start": "04:14:41", "end": "04:14:46", "text": "system. In fact, NASA has been searching"}, {"start": "04:14:44", "end": "04:14:48", "text": "for this object for years, though they"}, {"start": "04:14:46", "end": "04:14:50", "text": "call it planet 9 or planet X. Oh, they"}, {"start": "04:14:48", "end": "04:14:51", "text": "can't give Zechariah Sitchens any"}, {"start": "04:14:50", "end": "04:14:52", "text": "credit, eh?"}, {"start": "04:14:51", "end": "04:14:55", "text": ">> They won't admit that, but I bet it's a"}, {"start": "04:14:52", "end": "04:14:57", "text": "big part of it. In 2015, Caltech"}, {"start": "04:14:55", "end": "04:15:00", "text": "researchers thought they found evidence"}, {"start": "04:14:57", "end": "04:15:02", "text": "for this planet. And in 2016, they said"}, {"start": "04:15:00", "end": "04:15:05", "text": "they were almost sure the planet was out"}, {"start": "04:15:02", "end": "04:15:07", "text": "there. And then in 2017, researchers"}, {"start": "04:15:05", "end": "04:15:11", "text": "agreed that data and computer models"}, {"start": "04:15:07", "end": "04:15:13", "text": "prove with almost 100% certainty a large"}, {"start": "04:15:11", "end": "04:15:15", "text": "secret dark planet is lurking in the"}, {"start": "04:15:13", "end": "04:15:17", "text": "distant solar system. And they expect"}, {"start": "04:15:15", "end": "04:15:19", "text": "this to be confirmed within the next few"}, {"start": "04:15:17", "end": "04:15:21", "text": "years. And perhaps then we'll finally"}, {"start": "04:15:19", "end": "04:15:23", "text": "learn if this could actually be planet"}, {"start": "04:15:21", "end": "04:15:25", "text": "Nibiru, home of the Anunnaki. Now,"}, {"start": "04:15:23", "end": "04:15:26", "text": "according to the tablets, when the"}, {"start": "04:15:25", "end": "04:15:28", "text": "atmosphere on Nibiru started to"}, {"start": "04:15:26", "end": "04:15:31", "text": "deteriorate, the Anunnaki came to Earth"}, {"start": "04:15:28", "end": "04:15:34", "text": "for resources, specifically water and"}, {"start": "04:15:31", "end": "04:15:36", "text": "especially gold. And after their slaves"}, {"start": "04:15:34", "end": "04:15:38", "text": "rebelled, the Anunnaki needed a new"}, {"start": "04:15:36", "end": "04:15:40", "text": "workforce. And they performed genetic"}, {"start": "04:15:38", "end": "04:15:42", "text": "experiments on different Earth animals"}, {"start": "04:15:40", "end": "04:15:46", "text": "to try to create a new slave race."}, {"start": "04:15:42", "end": "04:15:46", "text": "Eventually, they were successful."}, {"start": "04:15:46", "end": "04:15:52", "text": "By splicing DNA from the Anunnaki with"}, {"start": "04:15:49", "end": "04:15:54", "text": "cavemen called Homo erectus, a new"}, {"start": "04:15:52", "end": "04:15:56", "text": "species emerged, Homo sapiens. In"}, {"start": "04:15:54", "end": "04:15:59", "text": "Sumerian and Babylonian texts, this new"}, {"start": "04:15:56", "end": "04:16:01", "text": "species was called the first men or"}, {"start": "04:15:59", "end": "04:16:02", "text": "Adamu. And the Hebrews translated this"}, {"start": "04:16:01", "end": "04:16:06", "text": "to be men of Adam."}, {"start": "04:16:02", "end": "04:16:09", "text": ">> Oh, the first men were bred to work for"}, {"start": "04:16:06", "end": "04:16:12", "text": "the Anunnaki. The Hebrew word avod means"}, {"start": "04:16:09", "end": "04:16:14", "text": "work for. Avod also means worship. And"}, {"start": "04:16:12", "end": "04:16:17", "text": "so humans worshiped their gods, the"}, {"start": "04:16:14", "end": "04:16:19", "text": "Anunnaki, who were giants compared to"}, {"start": "04:16:17", "end": "04:16:21", "text": "puny humans. Though it was forbidden,"}, {"start": "04:16:19", "end": "04:16:24", "text": "some Anunnaki bred with humans and their"}, {"start": "04:16:21", "end": "04:16:25", "text": "offspring became known as the Nephilim."}, {"start": "04:16:24", "end": "04:16:27", "text": "Now, obviously, the story of the"}, {"start": "04:16:25", "end": "04:16:28", "text": "Anunnaki needs its own episode. So, if"}, {"start": "04:16:27", "end": "04:16:29", "text": "you'd like to see that,"}, {"start": "04:16:28", "end": "04:16:30", "text": ">> yes, please."}, {"start": "04:16:29", "end": "04:16:32", "text": ">> If you'd like to see that, let me know."}, {"start": "04:16:30", "end": "04:16:34", "text": "The tablets say the next time Nibiru"}, {"start": "04:16:32", "end": "04:16:36", "text": "passed near the inner solar system, it"}, {"start": "04:16:34", "end": "04:16:39", "text": "caused severe electromagnetic"}, {"start": "04:16:36", "end": "04:16:42", "text": "disturbances. Dark spots appeared on the"}, {"start": "04:16:39", "end": "04:16:43", "text": "sun and waves of color streak the sky."}, {"start": "04:16:42", "end": "04:16:46", "text": "This is referring to extreme aurora"}, {"start": "04:16:43", "end": "04:16:48", "text": "borealis and astralis indicating a"}, {"start": "04:16:46", "end": "04:16:50", "text": "weakening of the earth's magnetic field."}, {"start": "04:16:48", "end": "04:16:52", "text": "With less protection from the sun's"}, {"start": "04:16:50", "end": "04:16:54", "text": "energy, the ice caps melted and a great"}, {"start": "04:16:52", "end": "04:16:57", "text": "flood swept across the entire planet. To"}, {"start": "04:16:54", "end": "04:16:59", "text": "escape the devastation, the Anunnaki"}, {"start": "04:16:57", "end": "04:17:01", "text": "boarded sky ships with their gold and"}, {"start": "04:16:59", "end": "04:17:03", "text": "returned to Nibiru."}, {"start": "04:17:01", "end": "04:17:05", "text": "But on Earth, great cities were"}, {"start": "04:17:03", "end": "04:17:07", "text": "destroyed and sunk beneath the waves."}, {"start": "04:17:05", "end": "04:17:09", "text": "When the waters finally receded, only a"}, {"start": "04:17:07", "end": "04:17:11", "text": "small number of humans were left to"}, {"start": "04:17:09", "end": "04:17:13", "text": "rebuild civilization. And this creation"}, {"start": "04:17:11", "end": "04:17:16", "text": "myth is told in almost every culture on"}, {"start": "04:17:13", "end": "04:17:18", "text": "Earth. And recently, we're starting to"}, {"start": "04:17:16", "end": "04:17:20", "text": "discover evidence that a great flood did"}, {"start": "04:17:18", "end": "04:17:23", "text": "indeed occur. But what about evidence of"}, {"start": "04:17:20", "end": "04:17:24", "text": "giants? Well, there is evidence. And"}, {"start": "04:17:23", "end": "04:17:29", "text": "some of that evidence has been found"}, {"start": "04:17:24", "end": "04:17:29", "text": "right here in our own backyard."}, {"start": "04:17:31", "end": "04:17:36", "text": "Many Native American tribes tell of the"}, {"start": "04:17:33", "end": "04:17:37", "text": "long-forgotten existence of a race of"}, {"start": "04:17:36", "end": "04:17:40", "text": "humans that were much taller and"}, {"start": "04:17:37", "end": "04:17:42", "text": "stronger and sometimes more cruel than"}, {"start": "04:17:40", "end": "04:17:45", "text": "ordinary men. The Choctaw tribe has a"}, {"start": "04:17:42", "end": "04:17:47", "text": "legend about the Nahulo, a race of"}, {"start": "04:17:45", "end": "04:17:49", "text": "giants who ate human flesh. The Chalkaw"}, {"start": "04:17:47", "end": "04:17:51", "text": "killed these giants whenever they could."}, {"start": "04:17:49", "end": "04:17:54", "text": "Eventually, those giants were driven"}, {"start": "04:17:51", "end": "04:17:56", "text": "west."}, {"start": "04:17:54", "end": "04:17:58", "text": "The Pyute settled in the Nevada desert"}, {"start": "04:17:56", "end": "04:18:01", "text": "thousands of years ago and passed down"}, {"start": "04:17:58", "end": "04:18:04", "text": "the story of a race of red-haired giants"}, {"start": "04:18:01", "end": "04:18:06", "text": "called the sitka. The sitka literally"}, {"start": "04:18:04", "end": "04:18:09", "text": "means tulie eaters. And tulie is a"}, {"start": "04:18:06", "end": "04:18:11", "text": "strong type of reed found in swamps."}, {"start": "04:18:09", "end": "04:18:13", "text": "Legend says the giants built rafts out"}, {"start": "04:18:11", "end": "04:18:15", "text": "of tuli and arrived in Nevada thousands"}, {"start": "04:18:13", "end": "04:18:17", "text": "of years ago. But tuli wasn't the only"}, {"start": "04:18:15", "end": "04:18:22", "text": "thing that the giants ate. Like the"}, {"start": "04:18:17", "end": "04:18:24", "text": "nahulo, siddika also ate humans."}, {"start": "04:18:22", "end": "04:18:27", "text": "The city cow waged war on the Pyute and"}, {"start": "04:18:24", "end": "04:18:29", "text": "all other neighboring tribes. The human"}, {"start": "04:18:27", "end": "04:18:31", "text": "tribes fought bravely, but the giants"}, {"start": "04:18:29", "end": "04:18:33", "text": "were too strong. The city cow would"}, {"start": "04:18:31", "end": "04:18:35", "text": "often eat the people captured in battle."}, {"start": "04:18:33", "end": "04:18:38", "text": "So after years of conflict, the tribes"}, {"start": "04:18:35", "end": "04:18:40", "text": "united, and that turned the tide of war."}, {"start": "04:18:38", "end": "04:18:42", "text": "And in the final battle, the red-haired"}, {"start": "04:18:40", "end": "04:18:44", "text": "giants were driven into a cave. The"}, {"start": "04:18:42", "end": "04:18:47", "text": "tribes stuffed the cave entrance with"}, {"start": "04:18:44", "end": "04:18:49", "text": "sticks and brush and set it ablaze. The"}, {"start": "04:18:47", "end": "04:18:52", "text": "last remaining city either suffocated or"}, {"start": "04:18:49", "end": "04:18:54", "text": "burned alive. Sarah Winnamaka Hopkins,"}, {"start": "04:18:52", "end": "04:18:56", "text": "daughter of Chief Winnamaka, was the"}, {"start": "04:18:54", "end": "04:18:59", "text": "first to write down and print the story"}, {"start": "04:18:56", "end": "04:19:01", "text": "of the city. But she said this wasn't a"}, {"start": "04:18:59", "end": "04:19:04", "text": "legend. It was history. She even wore"}, {"start": "04:19:01", "end": "04:19:06", "text": "red hair taken from a giant woven into"}, {"start": "04:19:04", "end": "04:19:08", "text": "some of her clothes. When mining"}, {"start": "04:19:06", "end": "04:19:11", "text": "engineer John T. Reed heard the story in"}, {"start": "04:19:08", "end": "04:19:14", "text": "1886, he asked to be taken to the cave,"}, {"start": "04:19:11", "end": "04:19:16", "text": "the final resting place of the city"}, {"start": "04:19:14", "end": "04:19:18", "text": "giants. Reed wasn't able to finance the"}, {"start": "04:19:16", "end": "04:19:20", "text": "excavation of the cave at that time, but"}, {"start": "04:19:18", "end": "04:19:22", "text": "when valuable bat guano was discovered,"}, {"start": "04:19:20", "end": "04:19:23", "text": "people started digging."}, {"start": "04:19:22", "end": "04:19:25", "text": ">> Bat guano?"}, {"start": "04:19:23", "end": "04:19:26", "text": ">> Yep. It was used to make gunpowder and"}, {"start": "04:19:25", "end": "04:19:28", "text": "explosives."}, {"start": "04:19:26", "end": "04:19:32", "text": ">> No, I mean, what is bat guano?"}, {"start": "04:19:28", "end": "04:19:32", "text": ">> Oh, guano is the uh waste of bats and"}, {"start": "04:19:32", "end": "04:19:35", "text": "birds."}, {"start": "04:19:32", "end": "04:19:36", "text": ">> You can make explosives out of"}, {"start": "04:19:35", "end": "04:19:38", "text": ">> You can."}, {"start": "04:19:36", "end": "04:19:40", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Okay. Do me a favor. When"}, {"start": "04:19:38", "end": "04:19:42", "text": "you clean my bowl, uh can you save it"}, {"start": "04:19:40", "end": "04:19:44", "text": "for me? Fourth of July is coming up. I'm"}, {"start": "04:19:42", "end": "04:19:46", "text": "going to make fireworks. I'm not saving"}, {"start": "04:19:44", "end": "04:19:47", "text": "your I'm not I'm not I'm not saving that"}, {"start": "04:19:46", "end": "04:19:49", "text": "for fireworks."}, {"start": "04:19:47", "end": "04:19:50", "text": ">> Fine then to celebrate I'll just light"}, {"start": "04:19:49", "end": "04:19:51", "text": "my thoughts."}, {"start": "04:19:50", "end": "04:19:54", "text": ">> You better not."}, {"start": "04:19:51", "end": "04:19:57", "text": ">> Why do you hate your country?"}, {"start": "04:19:54", "end": "04:20:00", "text": ">> Love Cave was excavated in 1912 and in"}, {"start": "04:19:57", "end": "04:20:02", "text": "1924 and in 1929 the findings were"}, {"start": "04:20:00", "end": "04:20:04", "text": "published and they were surprising."}, {"start": "04:20:02", "end": "04:20:06", "text": "Well, they weren't surprising to the"}, {"start": "04:20:04", "end": "04:20:08", "text": "Pyute. At the entrance to the cave,"}, {"start": "04:20:06", "end": "04:20:10", "text": "there was evidence of extreme scorching."}, {"start": "04:20:08", "end": "04:20:13", "text": "At some point, a fire burned very hot"}, {"start": "04:20:10", "end": "04:20:15", "text": "and for a very long time. On one of the"}, {"start": "04:20:13", "end": "04:20:18", "text": "cave walls, an enormous handprint was"}, {"start": "04:20:15", "end": "04:20:21", "text": "found. Inside the cave, over 10,000"}, {"start": "04:20:18", "end": "04:20:23", "text": "artifacts were recovered, including many"}, {"start": "04:20:21", "end": "04:20:25", "text": "human bones. Some of the bones showed"}, {"start": "04:20:23", "end": "04:20:28", "text": "that marrow had been removed, a sign of"}, {"start": "04:20:25", "end": "04:20:30", "text": "possible cannibalism. A sandal was found"}, {"start": "04:20:28", "end": "04:20:33", "text": "that would have fit someone who wore a"}, {"start": "04:20:30", "end": "04:20:35", "text": "size 29 shoe and would have been over 8"}, {"start": "04:20:33", "end": "04:20:38", "text": "ft tall. and clothing was found that was"}, {"start": "04:20:35", "end": "04:20:40", "text": "too big to fit a normals-sized human."}, {"start": "04:20:38", "end": "04:20:42", "text": "During the first dig, it was reported"}, {"start": "04:20:40", "end": "04:20:45", "text": "that the mummified remains of two giants"}, {"start": "04:20:42", "end": "04:20:48", "text": "were found. A female almost 7 ft tall"}, {"start": "04:20:45", "end": "04:20:50", "text": "and a male almost 9 ft tall and both had"}, {"start": "04:20:48", "end": "04:20:53", "text": "red hair. In addition to the initial"}, {"start": "04:20:50", "end": "04:20:55", "text": "findings, even more evidence exists in"}, {"start": "04:20:53", "end": "04:20:58", "text": "Lovelock Cave and its surrounding area."}, {"start": "04:20:55", "end": "04:21:00", "text": "According to a 1931 article published in"}, {"start": "04:20:58", "end": "04:21:03", "text": "a Nevada newspaper, two giant skeletons"}, {"start": "04:21:00", "end": "04:21:04", "text": "had been found buried in a dry lake bed"}, {"start": "04:21:03", "end": "04:21:06", "text": "close to Lovelock Cave, Nevada."}, {"start": "04:21:04", "end": "04:21:09", "text": ">> Were these giant changing, too?"}, {"start": "04:21:06", "end": "04:21:11", "text": ">> Yep. They also had red hair. But giants"}, {"start": "04:21:09", "end": "04:21:14", "text": "weren't just found in the Nevada desert."}, {"start": "04:21:11", "end": "04:21:16", "text": "They were found from coast to coast."}, {"start": "04:21:14", "end": "04:21:18", "text": "Apparently, long before native tribes"}, {"start": "04:21:16", "end": "04:21:21", "text": "arrived, America was the land of the"}, {"start": "04:21:18", "end": "04:21:21", "text": "giants."}, {"start": "04:21:24", "end": "04:21:30", "text": "In Peebles, Ohio, the Great Serpent"}, {"start": "04:21:26", "end": "04:21:33", "text": "Mound is a 1370 foot long prehistoric"}, {"start": "04:21:30", "end": "04:21:35", "text": "effigy mound. Nobody knows why it was"}, {"start": "04:21:33", "end": "04:21:37", "text": "built, but due to a nearby meteor impact"}, {"start": "04:21:35", "end": "04:21:40", "text": "crater, the area is full of"}, {"start": "04:21:37", "end": "04:21:42", "text": "gravitational and magnetic anomalies."}, {"start": "04:21:40", "end": "04:21:44", "text": "Some researchers like Richard Hamilton"}, {"start": "04:21:42", "end": "04:21:46", "text": "believe the location for Serpent Mound"}, {"start": "04:21:44", "end": "04:21:49", "text": "was chosen specifically because of these"}, {"start": "04:21:46", "end": "04:21:50", "text": "anomalies. And for many years, there"}, {"start": "04:21:49", "end": "04:21:53", "text": "have been stories of freak weather"}, {"start": "04:21:50", "end": "04:21:55", "text": "patterns, UFO sightings, and strange"}, {"start": "04:21:53", "end": "04:21:58", "text": "lights in the area. And also found near"}, {"start": "04:21:55", "end": "04:22:01", "text": "Serpent Mound, the remains of giants. In"}, {"start": "04:21:58", "end": "04:22:03", "text": "1872, a report appeared in the book"}, {"start": "04:22:01", "end": "04:22:05", "text": "Historical Collections of Noble County,"}, {"start": "04:22:03", "end": "04:22:08", "text": "Ohio. Someone had stumbled across"}, {"start": "04:22:05", "end": "04:22:10", "text": "enormous skeletons. The remains of three"}, {"start": "04:22:08", "end": "04:22:13", "text": "skeletons were found whose size would"}, {"start": "04:22:10", "end": "04:22:16", "text": "indicate they measured in life at least"}, {"start": "04:22:13", "end": "04:22:19", "text": "8 ft in height. The remarkable feature"}, {"start": "04:22:16", "end": "04:22:21", "text": "of these remains was they had double"}, {"start": "04:22:19", "end": "04:22:24", "text": "teeth in front as well as in back of the"}, {"start": "04:22:21", "end": "04:22:25", "text": "mouth and in both upper and lower jaws."}, {"start": "04:22:24", "end": "04:22:29", "text": "Upon exposure to the atmosphere, the"}, {"start": "04:22:25", "end": "04:22:32", "text": "skeletons crumbled back to mother earth."}, {"start": "04:22:29", "end": "04:22:34", "text": ">> In 1891, anthropologist Frederick Ward"}, {"start": "04:22:32", "end": "04:22:37", "text": "Putnham found large skeletons in the"}, {"start": "04:22:34", "end": "04:22:40", "text": "same area that measured 7 ft or taller"}, {"start": "04:22:37", "end": "04:22:43", "text": "with skulls twice as thick as a humans."}, {"start": "04:22:40", "end": "04:22:45", "text": "In 1894, a local farmer found unusual"}, {"start": "04:22:43", "end": "04:22:46", "text": "graves. The find was even covered by the"}, {"start": "04:22:45", "end": "04:22:48", "text": "New York Times."}, {"start": "04:22:46", "end": "04:22:50", "text": ">> Farmer Warren Cowan recently discovered"}, {"start": "04:22:48", "end": "04:22:52", "text": "several ancient graves a mile from the"}, {"start": "04:22:50", "end": "04:22:54", "text": "famous Serpent Mound where Professor"}, {"start": "04:22:52", "end": "04:22:56", "text": "Putnham of Harvard made interesting"}, {"start": "04:22:54", "end": "04:22:59", "text": "discoveries. Upon opening one of the"}, {"start": "04:22:56", "end": "04:23:01", "text": "graves, a skeleton of upwards of 6 ft"}, {"start": "04:22:59", "end": "04:23:04", "text": "was brought to light. In another grave"}, {"start": "04:23:01", "end": "04:23:05", "text": "was the skeleton of a man equally large."}, {"start": "04:23:04", "end": "04:23:08", "text": "It seems that the region was populated"}, {"start": "04:23:05", "end": "04:23:09", "text": "by a fairly intelligent people and that"}, {"start": "04:23:08", "end": "04:23:11", "text": "the serpent mound was an object of"}, {"start": "04:23:09", "end": "04:23:13", "text": "worship."}, {"start": "04:23:11", "end": "04:23:15", "text": "Ross Hamilton writes about giant"}, {"start": "04:23:13", "end": "04:23:17", "text": "skeletons found in Miamiisburg Mound"}, {"start": "04:23:15", "end": "04:23:20", "text": "about 70 mi from Serpent Mound."}, {"start": "04:23:17", "end": "04:23:23", "text": ">> The body of a man more gigantic than any"}, {"start": "04:23:20", "end": "04:23:25", "text": "ever recorded in human history has been"}, {"start": "04:23:23", "end": "04:23:28", "text": "found in the Miami Valley in Ohio. The"}, {"start": "04:23:25", "end": "04:23:31", "text": "skeleton, it is calculated, must have"}, {"start": "04:23:28", "end": "04:23:32", "text": "belonged to a man 8' 1/2 in in height."}, {"start": "04:23:31", "end": "04:23:35", "text": "It was found within a half mile of"}, {"start": "04:23:32", "end": "04:23:37", "text": "Miamiisburg in a location which contains"}, {"start": "04:23:35", "end": "04:23:39", "text": "many relics of the mound builders."}, {"start": "04:23:37", "end": "04:23:41", "text": "Edward Gart and Edward Kaufman"}, {"start": "04:23:39", "end": "04:23:44", "text": "discovered it while they were working in"}, {"start": "04:23:41", "end": "04:23:46", "text": "a gravel pit. Professor Thomas Wilson,"}, {"start": "04:23:44", "end": "04:23:49", "text": "curator of prehistoric anthropology,"}, {"start": "04:23:46", "end": "04:23:51", "text": "Smithsonian Institute, says of the find,"}, {"start": "04:23:49", "end": "04:23:53", "text": "\"The authenticity of this skull is"}, {"start": "04:23:51", "end": "04:23:56", "text": "beyond any doubt. Its antiquity is"}, {"start": "04:23:53", "end": "04:23:57", "text": "unquestionably great, though it is"}, {"start": "04:23:56", "end": "04:24:00", "text": "impossible to have a good guess as to"}, {"start": "04:23:57", "end": "04:24:02", "text": "its age. To my own personal knowledge,"}, {"start": "04:24:00", "end": "04:24:05", "text": "several such crania were discovered in"}, {"start": "04:24:02", "end": "04:24:07", "text": "the Hopewell group of mounds in Ohio.\""}, {"start": "04:24:05", "end": "04:24:09", "text": "Hamilton said the bones were put on"}, {"start": "04:24:07", "end": "04:24:11", "text": "display at a local museum, but they're"}, {"start": "04:24:09", "end": "04:24:14", "text": "no longer anywhere to be found. In just"}, {"start": "04:24:11", "end": "04:24:16", "text": "a short trip down the Ohio River Valley,"}, {"start": "04:24:14", "end": "04:24:19", "text": "another extraordinary skeleton was"}, {"start": "04:24:16", "end": "04:24:21", "text": "found. In 1959, Dr. Donald Dragu,"}, {"start": "04:24:19", "end": "04:24:24", "text": "curator for the Carnegi Museum,"}, {"start": "04:24:21", "end": "04:24:27", "text": "unearthed a 7'2in skeleton during the"}, {"start": "04:24:24", "end": "04:24:30", "text": "excavation of the Creap Mound in West"}, {"start": "04:24:27", "end": "04:24:32", "text": "Virginia. In 1868, a report surfaced"}, {"start": "04:24:30", "end": "04:24:34", "text": "that quarry workers with the Sock Rapids"}, {"start": "04:24:32", "end": "04:24:37", "text": "Water Power Company unearthed the"}, {"start": "04:24:34", "end": "04:24:39", "text": "remains of a 10-ft tall skeleton along"}, {"start": "04:24:37", "end": "04:24:41", "text": "the shores of the Mississippi River. A"}, {"start": "04:24:39", "end": "04:24:43", "text": "few days later, the bones were nowhere"}, {"start": "04:24:41", "end": "04:24:45", "text": "to be found, rumored to have been"}, {"start": "04:24:43", "end": "04:24:48", "text": "whisked east on a late night train and"}, {"start": "04:24:45", "end": "04:24:50", "text": "sold to the circus. In 1897, the"}, {"start": "04:24:48", "end": "04:24:52", "text": "Worthington Advance describes the"}, {"start": "04:24:50", "end": "04:24:55", "text": "Smithsonian Institution's work on the"}, {"start": "04:24:52", "end": "04:24:57", "text": "Eastern Mounds in Iowa. The paper quoted"}, {"start": "04:24:55", "end": "04:24:58", "text": "the director of the Bureau of Ethnology,"}, {"start": "04:24:57", "end": "04:25:00", "text": "John Wesley Powell."}, {"start": "04:24:58", "end": "04:25:02", "text": ">> It is a matter of official record that"}, {"start": "04:25:00", "end": "04:25:04", "text": "in digging through a mound in Iowa, the"}, {"start": "04:25:02", "end": "04:25:07", "text": "scientists found the skeleton of a giant"}, {"start": "04:25:04", "end": "04:25:11", "text": "who, judging from actual measurement,"}, {"start": "04:25:07", "end": "04:25:13", "text": "must have stood 7'6 in tall when alive."}, {"start": "04:25:11", "end": "04:25:15", "text": "The bones crumbled to dust when exposed"}, {"start": "04:25:13", "end": "04:25:18", "text": "to the air."}, {"start": "04:25:15", "end": "04:25:19", "text": ">> In Steelville, Missouri, there's a"}, {"start": "04:25:18", "end": "04:25:23", "text": "documented case from the Steelville"}, {"start": "04:25:19", "end": "04:25:26", "text": "Ledger, June 11th, 1933. An ancient"}, {"start": "04:25:23", "end": "04:25:29", "text": "Ozark giant dug up near Steelville. A"}, {"start": "04:25:26", "end": "04:25:32", "text": "boy looking for arrowheads turned up the"}, {"start": "04:25:29", "end": "04:25:35", "text": "complete skeleton of an 8-foot giant."}, {"start": "04:25:32", "end": "04:25:37", "text": "The grizzly find was brought to Dr. RC"}, {"start": "04:25:35", "end": "04:25:39", "text": "Parker here and stretched out to its"}, {"start": "04:25:37", "end": "04:25:42", "text": "enormous length in a hallway of his"}, {"start": "04:25:39", "end": "04:25:44", "text": "office, where it has since remained the"}, {"start": "04:25:42", "end": "04:25:47", "text": "most startling exhibit Steelville has"}, {"start": "04:25:44", "end": "04:25:49", "text": "ever had on public view."}, {"start": "04:25:47", "end": "04:25:52", "text": "Some believe these Midwest giants"}, {"start": "04:25:49", "end": "04:25:54", "text": "traveled west and occupied all of North"}, {"start": "04:25:52", "end": "04:25:56", "text": "America and perhaps they made it all the"}, {"start": "04:25:54", "end": "04:25:58", "text": "way to the Pacific. San Diego,"}, {"start": "04:25:56", "end": "04:26:00", "text": "California has reports of enormous"}, {"start": "04:25:58", "end": "04:26:05", "text": "remains found all over the area. A giant"}, {"start": "04:26:00", "end": "04:26:07", "text": "skeleton found in 1895 measured 8'4 in."}, {"start": "04:26:05", "end": "04:26:09", "text": "The skeleton was carefully inspected and"}, {"start": "04:26:07", "end": "04:26:11", "text": "measured by Professor Thomas Wilson and"}, {"start": "04:26:09", "end": "04:26:13", "text": "other scientists. Wilson was an"}, {"start": "04:26:11", "end": "04:26:15", "text": "anthropologist for the Smithsonian"}, {"start": "04:26:13", "end": "04:26:18", "text": "Institution. Also in Southern California"}, {"start": "04:26:15", "end": "04:26:20", "text": "on Catalina Island, amateur"}, {"start": "04:26:18", "end": "04:26:23", "text": "archaeologist Ralph Glidden found a"}, {"start": "04:26:20", "end": "04:26:25", "text": "total of 3,781"}, {"start": "04:26:23", "end": "04:26:30", "text": "skeletons on the Channel Islands between"}, {"start": "04:26:25", "end": "04:26:32", "text": "1919 and 1930. In 1833, Mexican soldiers"}, {"start": "04:26:30", "end": "04:26:35", "text": "were digging a pit for a powder magazine"}, {"start": "04:26:32", "end": "04:26:36", "text": "at Lampak Rancho, California. They"}, {"start": "04:26:35", "end": "04:26:40", "text": "hacked their way through a layer of"}, {"start": "04:26:36", "end": "04:26:42", "text": "gravel and found a 12t long sarcophagus."}, {"start": "04:26:40", "end": "04:26:44", "text": "The skeleton of a giant man was found"}, {"start": "04:26:42", "end": "04:26:47", "text": "inside. The grave was surrounded by"}, {"start": "04:26:44", "end": "04:26:50", "text": "carved shells, huge stone axes, two"}, {"start": "04:26:47", "end": "04:26:51", "text": "spears, and thin sheets of quartz. And"}, {"start": "04:26:50", "end": "04:26:54", "text": "the sheets of quartz were covered with"}, {"start": "04:26:51", "end": "04:26:56", "text": "symbols. And he had another interesting"}, {"start": "04:26:54", "end": "04:27:00", "text": "feature, a double row of teeth, both"}, {"start": "04:26:56", "end": "04:27:03", "text": "upper and lower. Over the past 200"}, {"start": "04:27:00", "end": "04:27:05", "text": "years, more than 1,000 accounts of 7 ft"}, {"start": "04:27:03", "end": "04:27:07", "text": "and taller skeletons have been found"}, {"start": "04:27:05", "end": "04:27:10", "text": "across North America. Newspaper"}, {"start": "04:27:07", "end": "04:27:13", "text": "accounts, town and county histories,"}, {"start": "04:27:10", "end": "04:27:15", "text": "letters, scientific journals, diaries,"}, {"start": "04:27:13", "end": "04:27:18", "text": "photos, and Smithsonian ethnology"}, {"start": "04:27:15", "end": "04:27:20", "text": "reports have carefully documented this."}, {"start": "04:27:18", "end": "04:27:22", "text": "The Smithsonian Institution is mentioned"}, {"start": "04:27:20", "end": "04:27:24", "text": "dozens of times as the recipient of"}, {"start": "04:27:22", "end": "04:27:27", "text": "enormous skeletons from across the"}, {"start": "04:27:24", "end": "04:27:31", "text": "entire United States. And if that's"}, {"start": "04:27:27", "end": "04:27:31", "text": "true, then where are the bones?"}, {"start": "04:27:34", "end": "04:27:39", "text": "From New York to California and almost"}, {"start": "04:27:37", "end": "04:27:41", "text": "every state in between, thousands of"}, {"start": "04:27:39", "end": "04:27:43", "text": "relics and over a thousand giant"}, {"start": "04:27:41", "end": "04:27:45", "text": "skeletons have been discovered and"}, {"start": "04:27:43", "end": "04:27:48", "text": "documented. They've been found in"}, {"start": "04:27:45", "end": "04:27:49", "text": "mounds, caves, burial chambers, stone"}, {"start": "04:27:48", "end": "04:27:52", "text": "crypts, and even on ancient"}, {"start": "04:27:49", "end": "04:27:55", "text": "battlefields. Many of the skeletons have"}, {"start": "04:27:52", "end": "04:27:57", "text": "strange physiology like elongated skulls"}, {"start": "04:27:55", "end": "04:27:59", "text": "and double rows of teeth. In dozens of"}, {"start": "04:27:57", "end": "04:28:01", "text": "cases, the bones were turned over to the"}, {"start": "04:27:59", "end": "04:28:05", "text": "Smithsonian Institution in Washington,"}, {"start": "04:28:01", "end": "04:28:06", "text": "DC. So, where are they? The Smithsonian"}, {"start": "04:28:05", "end": "04:28:08", "text": "was never really suspected of"}, {"start": "04:28:06", "end": "04:28:12", "text": "wrongdoing, but then something strange"}, {"start": "04:28:08", "end": "04:28:14", "text": "happened in 1950. In 1892, ancient"}, {"start": "04:28:12", "end": "04:28:16", "text": "wooden coffins were discovered in a"}, {"start": "04:28:14", "end": "04:28:18", "text": "place called Crumps Cave in Alabama. The"}, {"start": "04:28:16", "end": "04:28:20", "text": "coffins along with some other artifacts"}, {"start": "04:28:18", "end": "04:28:23", "text": "were sent to the Smithsonian. This is"}, {"start": "04:28:20", "end": "04:28:25", "text": "all well documented. So, in 1950,"}, {"start": "04:28:23", "end": "04:28:27", "text": "researcher Frederick J. Paul wrote to"}, {"start": "04:28:25", "end": "04:28:29", "text": "the Smithsonian to inquire about them."}, {"start": "04:28:27", "end": "04:28:32", "text": "It was a curious find because Native"}, {"start": "04:28:29", "end": "04:28:33", "text": "Americans didn't use coffins or caskets."}, {"start": "04:28:32", "end": "04:28:35", "text": "Paul received a reply from the"}, {"start": "04:28:33", "end": "04:28:36", "text": "Smithsonian."}, {"start": "04:28:35", "end": "04:28:38", "text": ">> We have not been able to find the"}, {"start": "04:28:36", "end": "04:28:41", "text": "specimens in our collections, though"}, {"start": "04:28:38", "end": "04:28:44", "text": "records show that they were received."}, {"start": "04:28:41", "end": "04:28:46", "text": ">> The matter was pursued again in 1992 by"}, {"start": "04:28:44", "end": "04:28:49", "text": "another researcher, David Baron. He was"}, {"start": "04:28:46", "end": "04:28:50", "text": "told the coffins were wooden troughs."}, {"start": "04:28:49", "end": "04:28:52", "text": ">> Troughs?"}, {"start": "04:28:50", "end": "04:28:54", "text": ">> Yes, troughs are long rectangular"}, {"start": "04:28:52", "end": "04:28:56", "text": "containers for feeding cattle, horses,"}, {"start": "04:28:54", "end": "04:28:58", "text": "or pigs. But before the Europeans"}, {"start": "04:28:56", "end": "04:29:01", "text": "arrived, North America didn't have any"}, {"start": "04:28:58", "end": "04:29:03", "text": "cattle, horses, or pigs. And even if"}, {"start": "04:29:01", "end": "04:29:03", "text": "they did, why would a trough have a lid"}, {"start": "04:29:03", "end": "04:29:05", "text": "on it?"}, {"start": "04:29:03", "end": "04:29:06", "text": ">> Well, did this guy mention this to the"}, {"start": "04:29:05", "end": "04:29:09", "text": "Smithsonian people?"}, {"start": "04:29:06", "end": "04:29:11", "text": ">> He did. He was told. Yeah. Well, even if"}, {"start": "04:29:09", "end": "04:29:12", "text": "he wanted to see the coffins or troughs"}, {"start": "04:29:11", "end": "04:29:14", "text": "or whatever they were, he couldn't"}, {"start": "04:29:12", "end": "04:29:17", "text": "because they were in a warehouse that"}, {"start": "04:29:14", "end": "04:29:18", "text": "was contaminated with asbestous and was"}, {"start": "04:29:17", "end": "04:29:19", "text": "closed for cleanup."}, {"start": "04:29:18", "end": "04:29:20", "text": ">> Closed for how long?"}, {"start": "04:29:19", "end": "04:29:22", "text": ">> 10 years."}, {"start": "04:29:20", "end": "04:29:23", "text": ">> 10 years to clean up as best."}, {"start": "04:29:22", "end": "04:29:25", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "04:29:23", "end": "04:29:26", "text": ">> O, they must have been union."}, {"start": "04:29:25", "end": "04:29:28", "text": ">> Yeah. It starts to smell like a cover"}, {"start": "04:29:26", "end": "04:29:31", "text": "up. The suppression of Native American"}, {"start": "04:29:28", "end": "04:29:33", "text": "archaeological evidence allegedly began"}, {"start": "04:29:31", "end": "04:29:35", "text": "in 1881. Up until that point, the"}, {"start": "04:29:33", "end": "04:29:38", "text": "Smithsonian was under the direction of"}, {"start": "04:29:35", "end": "04:29:39", "text": "John Wesley Powell, the geologist famous"}, {"start": "04:29:38", "end": "04:29:41", "text": "for exploring the Grand Canyon. Powell"}, {"start": "04:29:39", "end": "04:29:43", "text": "had spent a lot of time with the"}, {"start": "04:29:41", "end": "04:29:45", "text": "Winnebago Indians, and he found them to"}, {"start": "04:29:43", "end": "04:29:47", "text": "be thoughtful and intelligent. So Powell"}, {"start": "04:29:45", "end": "04:29:50", "text": "and the Smithsonian actually promoted"}, {"start": "04:29:47", "end": "04:29:51", "text": "the idea that Native Americans who were"}, {"start": "04:29:50", "end": "04:29:54", "text": "at the time being exterminated in the"}, {"start": "04:29:51", "end": "04:29:56", "text": "Indian Wars were descended from advanced"}, {"start": "04:29:54", "end": "04:29:58", "text": "civilizations who communicated with and"}, {"start": "04:29:56", "end": "04:30:00", "text": "traded with cultures all over the"}, {"start": "04:29:58", "end": "04:30:03", "text": "country and possibly all over the world."}, {"start": "04:30:00", "end": "04:30:04", "text": "This widespread dispersion of culture is"}, {"start": "04:30:03", "end": "04:30:07", "text": "called diffusionism which the"}, {"start": "04:30:04", "end": "04:30:09", "text": "Smithsonian supported. But then Powell"}, {"start": "04:30:07", "end": "04:30:11", "text": "appointed Cyrus Thomas as the director"}, {"start": "04:30:09", "end": "04:30:13", "text": "of the Eastern Mound division at the"}, {"start": "04:30:11", "end": "04:30:15", "text": "Smithsonian and then things got"}, {"start": "04:30:13", "end": "04:30:17", "text": "political. Thomas wasn't a fan of Native"}, {"start": "04:30:15", "end": "04:30:20", "text": "Americans. He thought of them as nothing"}, {"start": "04:30:17", "end": "04:30:21", "text": "more than howling savages. Thomas"}, {"start": "04:30:20", "end": "04:30:23", "text": "thought it was impossible for savages"}, {"start": "04:30:21", "end": "04:30:25", "text": "from one side of the Mississippi to"}, {"start": "04:30:23", "end": "04:30:27", "text": "visit savages on the other side. And to"}, {"start": "04:30:25", "end": "04:30:30", "text": "think that people as primitive as Native"}, {"start": "04:30:27", "end": "04:30:32", "text": "Americans could sail over an ocean was"}, {"start": "04:30:30", "end": "04:30:35", "text": "just ridiculous. This is called"}, {"start": "04:30:32", "end": "04:30:37", "text": "isolationism. Isolationism says that"}, {"start": "04:30:35", "end": "04:30:39", "text": "civilizations develop independently from"}, {"start": "04:30:37", "end": "04:30:41", "text": "each other and have very little contact"}, {"start": "04:30:39", "end": "04:30:44", "text": "with other civilizations, especially"}, {"start": "04:30:41", "end": "04:30:46", "text": "across oceans or lakes. The debates in"}, {"start": "04:30:44", "end": "04:30:48", "text": "the Smithsonian raged and Cyrus Thomas"}, {"start": "04:30:46", "end": "04:30:51", "text": "eventually won the battle of"}, {"start": "04:30:48", "end": "04:30:53", "text": "isolationism verse diffusionism. Soon"}, {"start": "04:30:51", "end": "04:30:55", "text": "the Smithsonian took an official stance"}, {"start": "04:30:53", "end": "04:30:57", "text": "that any archaeological evidence"}, {"start": "04:30:55", "end": "04:31:00", "text": "supporting diffusionism was fraudulent."}, {"start": "04:30:57", "end": "04:31:01", "text": "It was believed that contact between the"}, {"start": "04:31:00", "end": "04:31:04", "text": "civilizations of the Ohio and"}, {"start": "04:31:01", "end": "04:31:05", "text": "Mississippi valleys were rare and"}, {"start": "04:31:04", "end": "04:31:08", "text": "contact between the Mississippian"}, {"start": "04:31:05", "end": "04:31:11", "text": "cultures and the Mayas, Pekks or Aztecs"}, {"start": "04:31:08", "end": "04:31:13", "text": "in Mexico or Central America, well that"}, {"start": "04:31:11", "end": "04:31:15", "text": "was absurd. So the history books were"}, {"start": "04:31:13", "end": "04:31:17", "text": "written. Native Americans were a"}, {"start": "04:31:15", "end": "04:31:20", "text": "primitive and sometimes savage people"}, {"start": "04:31:17", "end": "04:31:22", "text": "and that was that. But not so fast. When"}, {"start": "04:31:20", "end": "04:31:24", "text": "those ancient mounds and pyramids in the"}, {"start": "04:31:22", "end": "04:31:27", "text": "Midwest were studied, it was shown that"}, {"start": "04:31:24", "end": "04:31:28", "text": "the Mississippi River valleys was at one"}, {"start": "04:31:27", "end": "04:31:31", "text": "time home to an ancient and"}, {"start": "04:31:28", "end": "04:31:33", "text": "sophisticated culture. At the time, the"}, {"start": "04:31:31", "end": "04:31:35", "text": "cultures capital city, Cahokia, was"}, {"start": "04:31:33", "end": "04:31:37", "text": "bigger than almost any city in Europe."}, {"start": "04:31:35", "end": "04:31:41", "text": "When the Spiro Mounds in Oklahoma were"}, {"start": "04:31:37", "end": "04:31:44", "text": "excavated between 1933 and 1935, a man"}, {"start": "04:31:41", "end": "04:31:46", "text": "over 7t tall was discovered. He was in"}, {"start": "04:31:44", "end": "04:31:48", "text": "full armor, and buried next to him was a"}, {"start": "04:31:46", "end": "04:31:51", "text": "pot of thousands of pearls and other"}, {"start": "04:31:48", "end": "04:31:52", "text": "artifacts. This was one of the largest"}, {"start": "04:31:51", "end": "04:31:54", "text": "treasures ever discovered at that point"}, {"start": "04:31:52", "end": "04:31:56", "text": "in time. We know that the man in armor"}, {"start": "04:31:54", "end": "04:31:59", "text": "was found and the Smithsonian was"}, {"start": "04:31:56", "end": "04:32:01", "text": "contacted. So, where is he? Many human"}, {"start": "04:31:59", "end": "04:32:03", "text": "remains were found in graves next to"}, {"start": "04:32:01", "end": "04:32:05", "text": "artifacts, but the remains were"}, {"start": "04:32:03", "end": "04:32:07", "text": "discarded. And we're told that most of"}, {"start": "04:32:05", "end": "04:32:09", "text": "the rare and priceless objects"}, {"start": "04:32:07", "end": "04:32:10", "text": "disintegrated before scholars could"}, {"start": "04:32:09", "end": "04:32:11", "text": "reach the site."}, {"start": "04:32:10", "end": "04:32:13", "text": ">> How convenient that priceless objects"}, {"start": "04:32:11", "end": "04:32:15", "text": "vanish before anyone gets there. And"}, {"start": "04:32:13", "end": "04:32:17", "text": "when the excavation was finished,"}, {"start": "04:32:15", "end": "04:32:19", "text": "dynamite was used to destroy the burial"}, {"start": "04:32:17", "end": "04:32:21", "text": "chamber, and any remaining artifacts"}, {"start": "04:32:19", "end": "04:32:24", "text": "that were considered valuable were sold"}, {"start": "04:32:21", "end": "04:32:24", "text": "off."}, {"start": "04:32:25", "end": "04:32:29", "text": "The Yakamara artifacts were discovered"}, {"start": "04:32:27", "end": "04:32:33", "text": "in Mexico in 1994 and have been the"}, {"start": "04:32:29", "end": "04:32:34", "text": "center of controversy. Over 33,000"}, {"start": "04:32:33", "end": "04:32:37", "text": "unusual artifacts, including many"}, {"start": "04:32:34", "end": "04:32:39", "text": "ceramic and stone figurines, were found."}, {"start": "04:32:37", "end": "04:32:42", "text": "Initial laboratory testing suggests the"}, {"start": "04:32:39", "end": "04:32:43", "text": "artifacts were about 6,500 years old."}, {"start": "04:32:42", "end": "04:32:46", "text": "But here's where things get"}, {"start": "04:32:43", "end": "04:32:49", "text": "controversial. Some figurines depict"}, {"start": "04:32:46", "end": "04:32:50", "text": "dinosaurs living alongside humans. And"}, {"start": "04:32:49", "end": "04:32:53", "text": "there's a famous carving of a human"}, {"start": "04:32:50", "end": "04:32:56", "text": "warrior riding a triceratops. Diverse"}, {"start": "04:32:53", "end": "04:32:58", "text": "ethnic groups are represented. Blacks,"}, {"start": "04:32:56", "end": "04:32:59", "text": "whites, and Asians are depicted. But"}, {"start": "04:32:58", "end": "04:33:02", "text": "those races should have been unknown in"}, {"start": "04:32:59", "end": "04:33:04", "text": "the Americas 6,500 years ago. And there"}, {"start": "04:33:02", "end": "04:33:07", "text": "were strange creatures like mermaids,"}, {"start": "04:33:04", "end": "04:33:09", "text": "human animal hybrids, even a Bigfoot."}, {"start": "04:33:07", "end": "04:33:11", "text": "Also found were teeth from an extinct"}, {"start": "04:33:09", "end": "04:33:13", "text": "ice age horse and the skeleton of a"}, {"start": "04:33:11", "end": "04:33:16", "text": "mammoth. Neither of these animals should"}, {"start": "04:33:13", "end": "04:33:19", "text": "have been there. Archaeologists Charles"}, {"start": "04:33:16", "end": "04:33:20", "text": "C. Deepeso and John H. Tierney examined"}, {"start": "04:33:19", "end": "04:33:23", "text": "the collection and authenticated the"}, {"start": "04:33:20", "end": "04:33:25", "text": "find. Carlos Perea, the director of"}, {"start": "04:33:23", "end": "04:33:29", "text": "archaeology for the Akamaro zone, also"}, {"start": "04:33:25", "end": "04:33:31", "text": "authenticated it. But the Smithsonian"}, {"start": "04:33:29", "end": "04:33:33", "text": "and other authorities dismissed the"}, {"start": "04:33:31", "end": "04:33:35", "text": "findings as fraudulent. Despite"}, {"start": "04:33:33", "end": "04:33:38", "text": "laboratories dating the objects to 4,500"}, {"start": "04:33:35", "end": "04:33:40", "text": "BC, the Smithsonian declared the"}, {"start": "04:33:38", "end": "04:33:42", "text": "artifacts 30 years old and said the"}, {"start": "04:33:40", "end": "04:33:44", "text": "whole find was a hoax. John Tierney, who"}, {"start": "04:33:42", "end": "04:33:46", "text": "later collaborated with Professor"}, {"start": "04:33:44", "end": "04:33:48", "text": "Charles Hapgood, said the Smithsonian"}, {"start": "04:33:46", "end": "04:33:50", "text": "Institution and other authorities had"}, {"start": "04:33:48", "end": "04:33:53", "text": "conducted a campaign of disinformation"}, {"start": "04:33:50", "end": "04:33:55", "text": "against the discoveries. If you remember"}, {"start": "04:33:53", "end": "04:33:56", "text": "from the Adam and Eve episode we did,"}, {"start": "04:33:55", "end": "04:33:59", "text": "Charles Hapgood was dismissed as a"}, {"start": "04:33:56", "end": "04:34:00", "text": "pseudocientist because he claimed the"}, {"start": "04:33:59", "end": "04:34:03", "text": "continent's drift over millions of"}, {"start": "04:34:00", "end": "04:34:05", "text": "years. Oops. Yeah. So, John Tierney"}, {"start": "04:34:03", "end": "04:34:07", "text": "filed a Freedom of Information request"}, {"start": "04:34:05", "end": "04:34:09", "text": "and asked for all the Akamara files from"}, {"start": "04:34:07", "end": "04:34:11", "text": "the Smithsonian. Well, turns out the"}, {"start": "04:34:09", "end": "04:34:13", "text": "files are missing and all the Akamara"}, {"start": "04:34:11", "end": "04:34:15", "text": "objects in the Smithsonian's possession"}, {"start": "04:34:13", "end": "04:34:16", "text": "have been put into storage and may not"}, {"start": "04:34:15", "end": "04:34:18", "text": "be viewed by the public."}, {"start": "04:34:16", "end": "04:34:20", "text": ">> Until when?"}, {"start": "04:34:18", "end": "04:34:22", "text": ">> Didn't say. Tierney went on to write a"}, {"start": "04:34:20", "end": "04:34:25", "text": "book called Akamaro: Archaeologyy's"}, {"start": "04:34:22", "end": "04:34:28", "text": "Astounding Scandal, but good luck trying"}, {"start": "04:34:25", "end": "04:34:30", "text": "to find it. The phrase, \"A skeleton in"}, {"start": "04:34:28", "end": "04:34:33", "text": "the closet,\" refers to a secret that if"}, {"start": "04:34:30", "end": "04:34:34", "text": "exposed would cause shame, guilt, or"}, {"start": "04:34:33", "end": "04:34:36", "text": "even a scandal. And we all have a"}, {"start": "04:34:34", "end": "04:34:39", "text": "skeleton or two in the closet. For us,"}, {"start": "04:34:36", "end": "04:34:43", "text": "that's just a metaphor. But for the"}, {"start": "04:34:39", "end": "04:34:43", "text": "Smithsonian, they're actual skeletons."}, {"start": "04:34:46", "end": "04:34:51", "text": "Giants in America. A government"}, {"start": "04:34:48", "end": "04:34:54", "text": "conspiracy. A Smithsonian coverup. It's"}, {"start": "04:34:51", "end": "04:34:56", "text": "a fascinating story. But is it true?"}, {"start": "04:34:54", "end": "04:34:58", "text": "Well, let's unravel it. Ohio has been"}, {"start": "04:34:56", "end": "04:35:00", "text": "the epicenter for giant skeletons,"}, {"start": "04:34:58", "end": "04:35:02", "text": "especially in the 19th century. When"}, {"start": "04:35:00", "end": "04:35:05", "text": "early discoveries made the news, the"}, {"start": "04:35:02", "end": "04:35:06", "text": "stories were a national sensation. Now,"}, {"start": "04:35:05", "end": "04:35:08", "text": "this amount of attention also brings out"}, {"start": "04:35:06", "end": "04:35:10", "text": "the hoaxers and scammers."}, {"start": "04:35:08", "end": "04:35:12", "text": ">> Hey, you want to buy a hecklefish NFT?"}, {"start": "04:35:10", "end": "04:35:14", "text": ">> I do not. And by the way, if you bought"}, {"start": "04:35:12", "end": "04:35:17", "text": "an NFT relating to the W files or"}, {"start": "04:35:14", "end": "04:35:17", "text": "hecklefish, you got scammed, but not by"}, {"start": "04:35:17", "end": "04:35:18", "text": "me."}, {"start": "04:35:17", "end": "04:35:21", "text": ">> No refunds."}, {"start": "04:35:18", "end": "04:35:22", "text": ">> In 1882, enormous skeletons were"}, {"start": "04:35:21", "end": "04:35:24", "text": "discovered in a lake bed near"}, {"start": "04:35:22", "end": "04:35:26", "text": "Cincinnati. The Columbus Dispatch ran"}, {"start": "04:35:24", "end": "04:35:29", "text": "with the story. The problem was it was"}, {"start": "04:35:26", "end": "04:35:30", "text": "all a hoax. The alleged discoverer was"}, {"start": "04:35:29", "end": "04:35:32", "text": "charging admission to visit his property"}, {"start": "04:35:30", "end": "04:35:34", "text": "and view the skeleton. Now, it may or"}, {"start": "04:35:32", "end": "04:35:37", "text": "may not have been a real skeleton, but"}, {"start": "04:35:34", "end": "04:35:37", "text": "either way, it was about 5'8, so not a"}, {"start": "04:35:37", "end": "04:35:39", "text": "giant."}, {"start": "04:35:37", "end": "04:35:41", "text": ">> Uh, maybe the guy who found it was"}, {"start": "04:35:39", "end": "04:35:43", "text": "really short. Maybe. But the story was"}, {"start": "04:35:41", "end": "04:35:45", "text": "so exciting the newspapers around the"}, {"start": "04:35:43", "end": "04:35:47", "text": "world ran it without factchecking."}, {"start": "04:35:45", "end": "04:35:50", "text": ">> Journalists running stories without"}, {"start": "04:35:47", "end": "04:35:52", "text": "checking the facts. No, it can't be."}, {"start": "04:35:50", "end": "04:35:54", "text": ">> As more stories about giants popped up"}, {"start": "04:35:52", "end": "04:35:56", "text": "in the news, it was hard to separate"}, {"start": "04:35:54", "end": "04:35:57", "text": "fact from fiction because the newspapers"}, {"start": "04:35:56", "end": "04:35:59", "text": "ran every story."}, {"start": "04:35:57", "end": "04:36:00", "text": ">> Hey, you want the truth or you want to"}, {"start": "04:35:59", "end": "04:36:00", "text": "sell papers? Am I right?"}, {"start": "04:36:00", "end": "04:36:02", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "04:36:00", "end": "04:36:04", "text": ">> Nothing ever changes."}, {"start": "04:36:02", "end": "04:36:07", "text": ">> That's true. Ralph Glidden was the"}, {"start": "04:36:04", "end": "04:36:10", "text": "archaeologist who found over 3,000 giant"}, {"start": "04:36:07", "end": "04:36:12", "text": "skeletons in 800 graves on Catalina"}, {"start": "04:36:10", "end": "04:36:15", "text": "Island. That turned out to be a huge"}, {"start": "04:36:12", "end": "04:36:17", "text": "hoax. He did find one skeleton and took"}, {"start": "04:36:15", "end": "04:36:18", "text": "a picture of himself standing near it."}, {"start": "04:36:17", "end": "04:36:20", "text": "He showed the picture to a friend who"}, {"start": "04:36:18", "end": "04:36:22", "text": "said that looks like a giant, which it"}, {"start": "04:36:20", "end": "04:36:24", "text": "does, but only cuz the skeleton is"}, {"start": "04:36:22", "end": "04:36:26", "text": "closer to the camera. Glidden ran with"}, {"start": "04:36:24", "end": "04:36:28", "text": "the idea to make some money, but it was"}, {"start": "04:36:26", "end": "04:36:30", "text": "all a scam. And since the early days of"}, {"start": "04:36:28", "end": "04:36:32", "text": "the internet, photos have been floating"}, {"start": "04:36:30", "end": "04:36:34", "text": "around of people excavating sites with"}, {"start": "04:36:32", "end": "04:36:36", "text": "giant bones. Some of the pictures are"}, {"start": "04:36:34", "end": "04:36:38", "text": "great, and I used a lot of them today,"}, {"start": "04:36:36", "end": "04:36:41", "text": "but most of the pictures are from a"}, {"start": "04:36:38", "end": "04:36:44", "text": "Photoshop contest held in 2002. In fact,"}, {"start": "04:36:41", "end": "04:36:46", "text": "science says that giant humans could not"}, {"start": "04:36:44", "end": "04:36:48", "text": "exist. Yes, there are human beings who"}, {"start": "04:36:46", "end": "04:36:49", "text": "grow very tall, but that's due to"}, {"start": "04:36:48", "end": "04:36:52", "text": "medical conditions and genetic"}, {"start": "04:36:49", "end": "04:36:54", "text": "disorders. Gigantism often happens when"}, {"start": "04:36:52", "end": "04:36:56", "text": "someone has a tumor on their pituitary"}, {"start": "04:36:54", "end": "04:36:58", "text": "gland. But this is a serious medical"}, {"start": "04:36:56", "end": "04:37:00", "text": "problem and people who suffer from"}, {"start": "04:36:58", "end": "04:37:02", "text": "gigantism often die very young due to"}, {"start": "04:37:00", "end": "04:37:05", "text": "the strain on their hearts and other"}, {"start": "04:37:02", "end": "04:37:06", "text": "organs. Then there's Marfan syndrome, a"}, {"start": "04:37:05", "end": "04:37:08", "text": "genetic condition that can cause limbs"}, {"start": "04:37:06", "end": "04:37:10", "text": "to be much longer in relation to the"}, {"start": "04:37:08", "end": "04:37:12", "text": "rest of the body. It's believed that"}, {"start": "04:37:10", "end": "04:37:15", "text": "Abraham Lincoln might have had Marfan"}, {"start": "04:37:12", "end": "04:37:16", "text": "syndrome. At 6'4, he was much taller"}, {"start": "04:37:15", "end": "04:37:18", "text": "than most of the men of his time."}, {"start": "04:37:16", "end": "04:37:18", "text": ">> Uh, he also died young."}, {"start": "04:37:18", "end": "04:37:20", "text": ">> O,"}, {"start": "04:37:18", "end": "04:37:22", "text": ">> what? Still too soon."}, {"start": "04:37:20", "end": "04:37:24", "text": ">> But the reason humans can't grow to be"}, {"start": "04:37:22", "end": "04:37:26", "text": "giants is the square cube law. This"}, {"start": "04:37:24", "end": "04:37:29", "text": "states that as the size of any object"}, {"start": "04:37:26", "end": "04:37:32", "text": "grows, its volume grows faster than its"}, {"start": "04:37:29", "end": "04:37:34", "text": "surface area. If a giant is 60 ft tall,"}, {"start": "04:37:32", "end": "04:37:37", "text": "or about 10 times the size of someone 6"}, {"start": "04:37:34", "end": "04:37:40", "text": "feet tall, the giant's body would have"}, {"start": "04:37:37", "end": "04:37:43", "text": "to be 100 times the volume of the 6'"}, {"start": "04:37:40", "end": "04:37:47", "text": "man. A cubic in of bone can support"}, {"start": "04:37:43", "end": "04:37:49", "text": "19,000 lb. That's a lot. But at 60 feet"}, {"start": "04:37:47", "end": "04:37:51", "text": "tall, bone would need to support well"}, {"start": "04:37:49", "end": "04:37:54", "text": "over 550,000"}, {"start": "04:37:51", "end": "04:37:55", "text": "lbs. Human bones would shatter and"}, {"start": "04:37:54", "end": "04:37:57", "text": "crumble under this weight."}, {"start": "04:37:55", "end": "04:37:59", "text": ">> Oh yeah, but who says giants are human?"}, {"start": "04:37:57", "end": "04:38:01", "text": ">> Now that's a fair point. There are"}, {"start": "04:37:59", "end": "04:38:02", "text": "discoveries of giants where it was"}, {"start": "04:38:01", "end": "04:38:05", "text": "reported that the bones of the body and"}, {"start": "04:38:02", "end": "04:38:07", "text": "the skull were much thicker than humans."}, {"start": "04:38:05", "end": "04:38:10", "text": "So is the Smithsonian covering this up?"}, {"start": "04:38:07", "end": "04:38:12", "text": "Well, debunkers say no. The story about"}, {"start": "04:38:10", "end": "04:38:14", "text": "John Wesley Powell nominating Cyrus"}, {"start": "04:38:12", "end": "04:38:16", "text": "Thomas to the Smithsonian first appears"}, {"start": "04:38:14", "end": "04:38:20", "text": "in an article written by David Childress"}, {"start": "04:38:16", "end": "04:38:22", "text": "in 1993. The article caught fire and has"}, {"start": "04:38:20", "end": "04:38:24", "text": "been in circulation ever since. Now,"}, {"start": "04:38:22", "end": "04:38:26", "text": "that doesn't mean Childress is wrong,"}, {"start": "04:38:24", "end": "04:38:28", "text": "but I do get suspicious when stories"}, {"start": "04:38:26", "end": "04:38:30", "text": "about the 19th century don't emerge"}, {"start": "04:38:28", "end": "04:38:32", "text": "until the late 20th century. So, have"}, {"start": "04:38:30", "end": "04:38:34", "text": "the authorities been suppressing"}, {"start": "04:38:32", "end": "04:38:36", "text": "knowledge that the Americas were once"}, {"start": "04:38:34", "end": "04:38:38", "text": "inhabited by advanced civilizations?"}, {"start": "04:38:36", "end": "04:38:40", "text": "civilizations who made contact with"}, {"start": "04:38:38", "end": "04:38:42", "text": "cultures around the world. Well, to get"}, {"start": "04:38:40", "end": "04:38:43", "text": "this answer, we're going to need a sweet"}, {"start": "04:38:42", "end": "04:38:44", "text": "potato."}, {"start": "04:38:43", "end": "04:38:46", "text": ">> Whoa, whoa, whoa. Do I have sea monkeys"}, {"start": "04:38:44", "end": "04:38:49", "text": "in my ears or did you just say sweet"}, {"start": "04:38:46", "end": "04:38:49", "text": "potato?"}, {"start": "04:38:52", "end": "04:38:56", "text": ">> For over a hundred years, the"}, {"start": "04:38:54", "end": "04:38:58", "text": "Smithsonian and mainstream archaeology"}, {"start": "04:38:56", "end": "04:39:00", "text": "has supported isolationism. that the"}, {"start": "04:38:58", "end": "04:39:02", "text": "cultures that emerged in North America"}, {"start": "04:39:00", "end": "04:39:04", "text": "did not have contact with Central"}, {"start": "04:39:02", "end": "04:39:06", "text": "America or South America and definitely"}, {"start": "04:39:04", "end": "04:39:08", "text": "did not contact cultures across the"}, {"start": "04:39:06", "end": "04:39:11", "text": "oceans. It's absurd to even think it."}, {"start": "04:39:08", "end": "04:39:13", "text": "But the Smithsonian has a problem. The"}, {"start": "04:39:11", "end": "04:39:15", "text": "sweet potato. Sweet potatoes are native"}, {"start": "04:39:13", "end": "04:39:17", "text": "to the Americas. But an ancient sweet"}, {"start": "04:39:15", "end": "04:39:19", "text": "potato was found in the Cook Islands,"}, {"start": "04:39:17", "end": "04:39:21", "text": "which are in the middle of the Pacific"}, {"start": "04:39:19", "end": "04:39:24", "text": "Ocean. The potato was carbon dated to"}, {"start": "04:39:21", "end": "04:39:27", "text": "the year 1. That would mean that 500"}, {"start": "04:39:24", "end": "04:39:29", "text": "years before Columbus, a Native American"}, {"start": "04:39:27", "end": "04:39:31", "text": "tribe traveled across the Pacific and"}, {"start": "04:39:29", "end": "04:39:34", "text": "landed in Polynia and brought sweet"}, {"start": "04:39:31", "end": "04:39:36", "text": "potatoes with them. Or Polynisians"}, {"start": "04:39:34", "end": "04:39:38", "text": "traveled to the Americas and back. The"}, {"start": "04:39:36", "end": "04:39:40", "text": "counterargument is that the sweet potato"}, {"start": "04:39:38", "end": "04:39:43", "text": "fell off a boat near Central America and"}, {"start": "04:39:40", "end": "04:39:46", "text": "floated to Polynia over 5,000 mi away."}, {"start": "04:39:43", "end": "04:39:47", "text": ">> That's one lucky potato. And linguists"}, {"start": "04:39:46", "end": "04:39:50", "text": "have found that the word for sweet"}, {"start": "04:39:47", "end": "04:39:52", "text": "potato in early Polynesian languages is"}, {"start": "04:39:50", "end": "04:39:55", "text": "kumala. In Native American dialects"}, {"start": "04:39:52", "end": "04:39:56", "text": "spoken in Ecuador, the word is kumar."}, {"start": "04:39:55", "end": "04:39:59", "text": "Now, it could all be a coincidence, but"}, {"start": "04:39:56", "end": "04:40:02", "text": "we're not done yet. Even more compelling"}, {"start": "04:39:59", "end": "04:40:05", "text": "is DNA analysis of Polynesian chickens."}, {"start": "04:40:02", "end": "04:40:08", "text": "In 2007, chicken bones were found at an"}, {"start": "04:40:05", "end": "04:40:10", "text": "excavation site in Chile. The DNA of the"}, {"start": "04:40:08", "end": "04:40:12", "text": "bones match chickens from the Pacific"}, {"start": "04:40:10", "end": "04:40:16", "text": "islands of Samoa and Tonga and were"}, {"start": "04:40:12", "end": "04:40:18", "text": "carbon dated to between 1304 and 1425"}, {"start": "04:40:16", "end": "04:40:21", "text": "before the Spanish arrived in the new"}, {"start": "04:40:18", "end": "04:40:23", "text": "world. In 2019, South American chickens"}, {"start": "04:40:21", "end": "04:40:25", "text": "were studied and found to have an"}, {"start": "04:40:23", "end": "04:40:27", "text": "unknown genetic component. It turned out"}, {"start": "04:40:25", "end": "04:40:29", "text": "that component was from chickens found"}, {"start": "04:40:27", "end": "04:40:31", "text": "on Easter Island in the middle of the"}, {"start": "04:40:29", "end": "04:40:33", "text": "Pacific Ocean. The study was so"}, {"start": "04:40:31", "end": "04:40:36", "text": "astounding that research was done on"}, {"start": "04:40:33", "end": "04:40:39", "text": "human DNA. And in 2020, the study showed"}, {"start": "04:40:36", "end": "04:40:40", "text": "that some Polynesian people had DNA"}, {"start": "04:40:39", "end": "04:40:44", "text": "inherited from people who lived in"}, {"start": "04:40:40", "end": "04:40:46", "text": "Colombia about 800 years ago."}, {"start": "04:40:44", "end": "04:40:48", "text": "Specifically, Polynesians share DNA with"}, {"start": "04:40:46", "end": "04:40:51", "text": "the Zenu tribe, who lived in Colombia on"}, {"start": "04:40:48", "end": "04:40:53", "text": "the Caribbean side, not even the Pacific"}, {"start": "04:40:51", "end": "04:40:55", "text": "Ocean side. It's too much to cover in"}, {"start": "04:40:53", "end": "04:40:57", "text": "this episode, but there's evidence of"}, {"start": "04:40:55", "end": "04:41:01", "text": "Chinese contact with the New World in"}, {"start": "04:40:57", "end": "04:41:04", "text": "1200 BC or Indian contact in 2000 BC and"}, {"start": "04:41:01", "end": "04:41:06", "text": "of Arab contact in the 9th century."}, {"start": "04:41:04", "end": "04:41:08", "text": "There are even old maps from the Arabs"}, {"start": "04:41:06", "end": "04:41:11", "text": "and Turks like the Pirice map that show"}, {"start": "04:41:08", "end": "04:41:12", "text": "North and South America a thousand years"}, {"start": "04:41:11", "end": "04:41:14", "text": "before Columbus was born. And there's"}, {"start": "04:41:12", "end": "04:41:17", "text": "much more. Some mummies have been found"}, {"start": "04:41:14", "end": "04:41:19", "text": "with traces of cocoa and nicotine. A"}, {"start": "04:41:17", "end": "04:41:22", "text": "re-examination of the mummy of Ramsy's"}, {"start": "04:41:19", "end": "04:41:24", "text": "II in the 1970s reveal the presence of"}, {"start": "04:41:22", "end": "04:41:27", "text": "fragments of tobacco leaves in his"}, {"start": "04:41:24", "end": "04:41:29", "text": "abdomen. Coca and tobacco are native to"}, {"start": "04:41:27", "end": "04:41:31", "text": "the Americas. Now, mainstream science"}, {"start": "04:41:29", "end": "04:41:33", "text": "says an archaeologist handling the mummy"}, {"start": "04:41:31", "end": "04:41:34", "text": "must have spilled his pipe. land is hot"}, {"start": "04:41:33", "end": "04:41:37", "text": "cocoa."}, {"start": "04:41:34", "end": "04:41:39", "text": ">> That's what they say. Now, remember, we"}, {"start": "04:41:37", "end": "04:41:41", "text": "did an episode on Egyptian artifacts"}, {"start": "04:41:39", "end": "04:41:43", "text": "allegedly discovered in the Grand Canyon"}, {"start": "04:41:41", "end": "04:41:45", "text": "in 1909. The Smithsonian denies this and"}, {"start": "04:41:43", "end": "04:41:47", "text": "claims the whole story is a hoax. But"}, {"start": "04:41:45", "end": "04:41:49", "text": "for some reason, the part of the Grand"}, {"start": "04:41:47", "end": "04:41:52", "text": "Canyon where the discovery was made is"}, {"start": "04:41:49", "end": "04:41:54", "text": "off limits. You can't even fly over it."}, {"start": "04:41:52", "end": "04:41:56", "text": "If you do wander into the area, within a"}, {"start": "04:41:54", "end": "04:41:58", "text": "few minutes, unmarked planes and"}, {"start": "04:41:56", "end": "04:42:02", "text": "helicopters appear in an area where"}, {"start": "04:41:58", "end": "04:42:02", "text": "flying is not allowed."}, {"start": "04:42:05", "end": "04:42:08", "text": "I'll link to the episode below which"}, {"start": "04:42:06", "end": "04:42:09", "text": "goes into detail. You'll even see the"}, {"start": "04:42:08", "end": "04:42:12", "text": "planes and helicopters I'm talking"}, {"start": "04:42:09", "end": "04:42:14", "text": "about. Once again, those artifacts were"}, {"start": "04:42:12", "end": "04:42:16", "text": "sent to the Smithsonian and nobody knows"}, {"start": "04:42:14", "end": "04:42:18", "text": "what happened. In 1990, a law was"}, {"start": "04:42:16", "end": "04:42:21", "text": "passed. The Native American Graves"}, {"start": "04:42:18", "end": "04:42:23", "text": "Protection and Repatriation Act. This"}, {"start": "04:42:21", "end": "04:42:25", "text": "law says that any federal agency in"}, {"start": "04:42:23", "end": "04:42:28", "text": "possession of Native American cultural"}, {"start": "04:42:25", "end": "04:42:30", "text": "items, including human remains or sacred"}, {"start": "04:42:28", "end": "04:42:33", "text": "objects, will be returned to the tribes"}, {"start": "04:42:30", "end": "04:42:35", "text": "upon request. Great. The Smithsonian is"}, {"start": "04:42:33", "end": "04:42:37", "text": "a federal agency. So, can we get all the"}, {"start": "04:42:35", "end": "04:42:40", "text": "skeletons from Ohio and have a look?"}, {"start": "04:42:37", "end": "04:42:44", "text": "Nope. United States Code, Title 25,"}, {"start": "04:42:40", "end": "04:42:47", "text": "Chapter 32, Section 30001, subsections 4"}, {"start": "04:42:44", "end": "04:42:49", "text": "and 8 state. Subsection 4, federal"}, {"start": "04:42:47", "end": "04:42:51", "text": "agency means any department, agency or"}, {"start": "04:42:49", "end": "04:42:52", "text": "instrumentality of the United States."}, {"start": "04:42:51", "end": "04:42:55", "text": "Such term does not include the"}, {"start": "04:42:52", "end": "04:42:57", "text": "Smithsonian institution. Subsection 8,"}, {"start": "04:42:55", "end": "04:42:59", "text": "museum means any institution or state or"}, {"start": "04:42:57", "end": "04:43:01", "text": "local government agency, including any"}, {"start": "04:42:59", "end": "04:43:02", "text": "institution of higher learning that"}, {"start": "04:43:01", "end": "04:43:05", "text": "receives federal funds and has"}, {"start": "04:43:02", "end": "04:43:08", "text": "possession of or control over Native"}, {"start": "04:43:05", "end": "04:43:10", "text": "American cultural items. Such term does"}, {"start": "04:43:08", "end": "04:43:12", "text": "not include the Smithsonian Institution"}, {"start": "04:43:10", "end": "04:43:14", "text": "or any other federal agency."}, {"start": "04:43:12", "end": "04:43:16", "text": "The law requiring the government to"}, {"start": "04:43:14", "end": "04:43:18", "text": "return skeletons to the tribes. Well,"}, {"start": "04:43:16", "end": "04:43:20", "text": "the Smithsonian is exempt. So, if"}, {"start": "04:43:18", "end": "04:43:21", "text": "history books need to be rewritten,"}, {"start": "04:43:20", "end": "04:43:23", "text": "don't look to the Smithsonian for help."}, {"start": "04:43:21", "end": "04:43:25", "text": "And don't demand answers either."}, {"start": "04:43:23", "end": "04:43:27", "text": "Mainstream science and especially the"}, {"start": "04:43:25", "end": "04:43:29", "text": "media have a playbook. It's easy to"}, {"start": "04:43:27", "end": "04:43:32", "text": "recognize once you look for it. The four"}, {"start": "04:43:29", "end": "04:43:34", "text": "stages of suppression are criticize,"}, {"start": "04:43:32", "end": "04:43:37", "text": "marginalize, attack, and censor. Now,"}, {"start": "04:43:34", "end": "04:43:40", "text": "here's an example."}, {"start": "04:43:37", "end": "04:43:42", "text": ">> I don't claim to be an archaeologist or"}, {"start": "04:43:40", "end": "04:43:43", "text": "a scientist. When Graham Hancock"}, {"start": "04:43:42", "end": "04:43:46", "text": "released his documentary series called"}, {"start": "04:43:43", "end": "04:43:48", "text": "Ancient Apocalypse, it was a huge hit."}, {"start": "04:43:46", "end": "04:43:50", "text": "It explores the theory that ancient"}, {"start": "04:43:48", "end": "04:43:52", "text": "advanced cultures existed thousands of"}, {"start": "04:43:50", "end": "04:43:54", "text": "years ago but were wiped out in the"}, {"start": "04:43:52", "end": "04:43:56", "text": "great flood of the younger trius. Now,"}, {"start": "04:43:54", "end": "04:43:57", "text": "you could agree with this theory or"}, {"start": "04:43:56", "end": "04:43:59", "text": "disagree with it. Either way is fine"}, {"start": "04:43:57", "end": "04:44:01", "text": "with me. But wherever you stand, we can"}, {"start": "04:43:59", "end": "04:44:03", "text": "all agree that it's an interesting"}, {"start": "04:44:01", "end": "04:44:06", "text": "theory worthy of discussion, right?"}, {"start": "04:44:03", "end": "04:44:08", "text": "Well, wrong. The Guardian reviewed the"}, {"start": "04:44:06", "end": "04:44:11", "text": "series in an article titled Ancient"}, {"start": "04:44:08", "end": "04:44:12", "text": "Apocalypse is the most dangerous show on"}, {"start": "04:44:11", "end": "04:44:15", "text": "Netflix. Now, there are stage one,"}, {"start": "04:44:12", "end": "04:44:17", "text": "criticize. Not only should we not"}, {"start": "04:44:15", "end": "04:44:19", "text": "discuss alternate theories, it's"}, {"start": "04:44:17", "end": "04:44:20", "text": "actually dangerous to discuss them. But"}, {"start": "04:44:19", "end": "04:44:22", "text": "people like us don't care about"}, {"start": "04:44:20", "end": "04:44:24", "text": "criticism, we don't care what the media"}, {"start": "04:44:22", "end": "04:44:27", "text": "thinks, so they have to escalate to"}, {"start": "04:44:24", "end": "04:44:29", "text": "stage two, marginalize. That same"}, {"start": "04:44:27", "end": "04:44:32", "text": "article has a spicy subtitle which read,"}, {"start": "04:44:29", "end": "04:44:34", "text": "\"A show with a truly preposterous theory"}, {"start": "04:44:32", "end": "04:44:36", "text": "is one of the streaming giants biggest"}, {"start": "04:44:34", "end": "04:44:38", "text": "hits, and it seems to exist solely for"}, {"start": "04:44:36", "end": "04:44:40", "text": "conspiracy theorists.\" So, if you"}, {"start": "04:44:38", "end": "04:44:42", "text": "believe in or even have an interest in"}, {"start": "04:44:40", "end": "04:44:44", "text": "this preposterous subject, you're"}, {"start": "04:44:42", "end": "04:44:46", "text": "marginalized as a conspiracy theorist."}, {"start": "04:44:44", "end": "04:44:48", "text": "The same article insinuates that people"}, {"start": "04:44:46", "end": "04:44:50", "text": "who are curious about civilizations"}, {"start": "04:44:48", "end": "04:44:50", "text": "before the flood are the same as"}, {"start": "04:44:50", "end": "04:44:51", "text": "flatearthers."}, {"start": "04:44:50", "end": "04:44:53", "text": ">> It still might be flat."}, {"start": "04:44:51", "end": "04:44:54", "text": ">> We're 9/11 truthers."}, {"start": "04:44:53", "end": "04:44:57", "text": ">> Inside job. Uh,"}, {"start": "04:44:54", "end": "04:44:57", "text": ">> not now."}, {"start": "04:44:58", "end": "04:45:03", "text": "Being called a conspiracy theorist used"}, {"start": "04:45:01", "end": "04:45:04", "text": "to be a major insult, but we've heard it"}, {"start": "04:45:03", "end": "04:45:05", "text": "so much that we're not affected by it"}, {"start": "04:45:04", "end": "04:45:06", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "04:45:05", "end": "04:45:09", "text": ">> I take it as a compliment."}, {"start": "04:45:06", "end": "04:45:12", "text": ">> I know. So, they escalate to stage three"}, {"start": "04:45:09", "end": "04:45:14", "text": "attack. MSN reviewed the documentary in"}, {"start": "04:45:12", "end": "04:45:16", "text": "an article with this headline. Graham"}, {"start": "04:45:14", "end": "04:45:18", "text": "Hancock series promotes racist"}, {"start": "04:45:16", "end": "04:45:19", "text": "conspiracy theories."}, {"start": "04:45:18", "end": "04:45:22", "text": ">> And there it is."}, {"start": "04:45:19", "end": "04:45:25", "text": ">> ABC ran with it. Ancient Apocalypse"}, {"start": "04:45:22", "end": "04:45:27", "text": "series uses racist ideologies. Now, I"}, {"start": "04:45:25", "end": "04:45:29", "text": "watched and enjoyed the documentaries. I"}, {"start": "04:45:27", "end": "04:45:32", "text": "enjoy discussing alternate history and"}, {"start": "04:45:29", "end": "04:45:35", "text": "life before the younger dus flood. I'm"}, {"start": "04:45:32", "end": "04:45:37", "text": "not racist. Are you? I don't care what"}, {"start": "04:45:35", "end": "04:45:38", "text": "color the people were before the flood."}, {"start": "04:45:37", "end": "04:45:40", "text": "I just want to know about them. And I"}, {"start": "04:45:38", "end": "04:45:41", "text": "would guess that you're the same. But"}, {"start": "04:45:40", "end": "04:45:44", "text": "calling someone a racist without"}, {"start": "04:45:41", "end": "04:45:45", "text": "evidence is very much in style now. But"}, {"start": "04:45:44", "end": "04:45:48", "text": "because that word is thrown around so"}, {"start": "04:45:45", "end": "04:45:50", "text": "much, that attack is also losing its"}, {"start": "04:45:48", "end": "04:45:52", "text": "teeth. So you criticized, it didn't"}, {"start": "04:45:50", "end": "04:45:54", "text": "work. You marginalized, it didn't work."}, {"start": "04:45:52", "end": "04:45:57", "text": "Attacked, it didn't work. That leaves"}, {"start": "04:45:54", "end": "04:45:58", "text": "stage four, which does work. Censorship."}, {"start": "04:45:57", "end": "04:46:00", "text": "It's right there in that headline from"}, {"start": "04:45:58", "end": "04:46:03", "text": "the Guardian where the author poses the"}, {"start": "04:46:00", "end": "04:46:05", "text": "question, why has this been allowed?"}, {"start": "04:46:03", "end": "04:46:06", "text": "What does he mean allowed? Who does he"}, {"start": "04:46:05", "end": "04:46:09", "text": "want allowing or disallowing free"}, {"start": "04:46:06", "end": "04:46:11", "text": "speech? Netflix, the government? I"}, {"start": "04:46:09", "end": "04:46:13", "text": "suspect I know the answer. Now, I don't"}, {"start": "04:46:11", "end": "04:46:15", "text": "agree with all of Graham Hancock's"}, {"start": "04:46:13", "end": "04:46:16", "text": "assertions laid out in the documentary,"}, {"start": "04:46:15", "end": "04:46:18", "text": "but all of them are worthy of"}, {"start": "04:46:16", "end": "04:46:21", "text": "discussion. Mainstream media and science"}, {"start": "04:46:18", "end": "04:46:23", "text": "disagrees. These discussions are"}, {"start": "04:46:21", "end": "04:46:26", "text": "preposterous, dangerous, and racist"}, {"start": "04:46:23", "end": "04:46:28", "text": "somehow, so censor it. For a 100red"}, {"start": "04:46:26", "end": "04:46:30", "text": "years, Egyptologists proudly claimed"}, {"start": "04:46:28", "end": "04:46:33", "text": "ancient Egypt as the first major"}, {"start": "04:46:30", "end": "04:46:34", "text": "civilization with a minor shout out to"}, {"start": "04:46:33", "end": "04:46:36", "text": "the Samrians who were there a thousand"}, {"start": "04:46:34", "end": "04:46:39", "text": "years earlier. Any culture older than"}, {"start": "04:46:36", "end": "04:46:41", "text": "that was nonsense and discussion was"}, {"start": "04:46:39", "end": "04:46:44", "text": "censored. But then, Gobeclete was"}, {"start": "04:46:41", "end": "04:46:46", "text": "discovered in Turkey and is found to be"}, {"start": "04:46:44", "end": "04:46:47", "text": "5,000 years older than Sumeriia."}, {"start": "04:46:46", "end": "04:46:49", "text": ">> Oopsie."}, {"start": "04:46:47", "end": "04:46:52", "text": ">> Yeah, that was embarrassing."}, {"start": "04:46:49", "end": "04:46:54", "text": "Then Monuklu Tarla was discovered also"}, {"start": "04:46:52", "end": "04:46:57", "text": "in Turkey. That culture dates back to"}, {"start": "04:46:54", "end": "04:46:59", "text": "over 12,000 years ago. That's a period"}, {"start": "04:46:57", "end": "04:47:01", "text": "of time called the pleaene. Now we were"}, {"start": "04:46:59", "end": "04:47:03", "text": "taught that this was the time of the"}, {"start": "04:47:01", "end": "04:47:05", "text": "cavemen. But in Bonukuluta, they"}, {"start": "04:47:03", "end": "04:47:07", "text": "understood agriculture and animal"}, {"start": "04:47:05", "end": "04:47:09", "text": "husbandry. They could cut stone and they"}, {"start": "04:47:07", "end": "04:47:12", "text": "engaged in city planning. A few years"}, {"start": "04:47:09", "end": "04:47:14", "text": "ago, a sewer system was discovered."}, {"start": "04:47:12", "end": "04:47:15", "text": "These weren't cavemen. They lived in"}, {"start": "04:47:14", "end": "04:47:18", "text": "houses built around a central religious"}, {"start": "04:47:15", "end": "04:47:21", "text": "center. A Netflix documentary discussing"}, {"start": "04:47:18", "end": "04:47:23", "text": "different theories isn't dangerous. But"}, {"start": "04:47:21", "end": "04:47:24", "text": "articles by mainstream television"}, {"start": "04:47:23", "end": "04:47:27", "text": "writers who get their facts from"}, {"start": "04:47:24", "end": "04:47:29", "text": "mainstream scientists, those articles"}, {"start": "04:47:27", "end": "04:47:31", "text": "are dangerous. They're dangerous because"}, {"start": "04:47:29", "end": "04:47:33", "text": "they suppress debate, which in turn"}, {"start": "04:47:31", "end": "04:47:35", "text": "suppresses discovery. I'm so glad the"}, {"start": "04:47:33", "end": "04:47:37", "text": "archaeologists who found Monklu didn't"}, {"start": "04:47:35", "end": "04:47:39", "text": "read internet news. Otherwise, those"}, {"start": "04:47:37", "end": "04:47:41", "text": "racist conspiracy theorists might never"}, {"start": "04:47:39", "end": "04:47:43", "text": "have found what is so far the oldest"}, {"start": "04:47:41", "end": "04:47:45", "text": "culture on Earth. a culture that"}, {"start": "04:47:43", "end": "04:47:48", "text": "emerged, by the way, right after the"}, {"start": "04:47:45", "end": "04:47:50", "text": "great flood of the younger Dryus. As"}, {"start": "04:47:48", "end": "04:47:52", "text": "more time passes, more evidence emerges"}, {"start": "04:47:50", "end": "04:47:54", "text": "to support theories about alternate"}, {"start": "04:47:52", "end": "04:47:56", "text": "history. If giants walk the earth,"}, {"start": "04:47:54", "end": "04:47:58", "text": "sooner or later, that too will be"}, {"start": "04:47:56", "end": "04:48:00", "text": "discovered. But mainstream media will do"}, {"start": "04:47:58", "end": "04:48:03", "text": "everything it can to prevent that news"}, {"start": "04:48:00", "end": "04:48:06", "text": "from getting out. If the Guardian, NBC,"}, {"start": "04:48:03", "end": "04:48:08", "text": "ABC, USA Today, CNN, and all the others"}, {"start": "04:48:06", "end": "04:48:10", "text": "continue to be wrong over and over"}, {"start": "04:48:08", "end": "04:48:12", "text": "again, maybe we have to start asking the"}, {"start": "04:48:10", "end": "04:48:16", "text": "question about those articles."}, {"start": "04:48:12", "end": "04:48:16", "text": "Should they be allowed?"}, {"start": "04:48:22", "end": "04:48:27", "text": "Oh, sorry about that. We're still going."}, {"start": "04:48:25", "end": "04:48:30", "text": "Next one is Rob's favorite. Rob is the"}, {"start": "04:48:27", "end": "04:48:31", "text": "official artist of the Y Files. 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This was about the"}, {"start": "04:48:55", "end": "04:49:03", "text": "secret mission to Antarctica. You're"}, {"start": "04:48:58", "end": "04:49:03", "text": "going to love it. Ricketity roll it."}, {"start": "04:49:03", "end": "04:49:08", "text": "Operation High Jump commenced in August"}, {"start": "04:49:05", "end": "04:49:10", "text": "1946. It was the largest, most heavily"}, {"start": "04:49:08", "end": "04:49:12", "text": "armed naval task force ever sent to"}, {"start": "04:49:10", "end": "04:49:14", "text": "Antarctica. Leading the mission was"}, {"start": "04:49:12", "end": "04:49:17", "text": "Admiral Richard E. Bird, one of the most"}, {"start": "04:49:14", "end": "04:49:18", "text": "famous naval officers in history. The"}, {"start": "04:49:17", "end": "04:49:20", "text": "official purpose for the expedition was"}, {"start": "04:49:18", "end": "04:49:23", "text": "scientific research and military"}, {"start": "04:49:20", "end": "04:49:25", "text": "training. But that was just a cover"}, {"start": "04:49:23", "end": "04:49:28", "text": "story. Operation High Jump had other"}, {"start": "04:49:25", "end": "04:49:30", "text": "goals. One was to extend American"}, {"start": "04:49:28", "end": "04:49:32", "text": "sovereignty over Antarctica, something"}, {"start": "04:49:30", "end": "04:49:34", "text": "that was denied many times by the US"}, {"start": "04:49:32", "end": "04:49:37", "text": "government. Another was to locate and"}, {"start": "04:49:34", "end": "04:49:40", "text": "destroy a secret Nazi base and capture"}, {"start": "04:49:37", "end": "04:49:43", "text": "the Nazis new secret weapon, the flying"}, {"start": "04:49:40", "end": "04:49:46", "text": "saucer. UFOs were seen all over the"}, {"start": "04:49:43", "end": "04:49:48", "text": "area, suspected to be Nazi test flights."}, {"start": "04:49:46", "end": "04:49:50", "text": "Admiral Bird was sent to find out."}, {"start": "04:49:48", "end": "04:49:54", "text": ">> Did they find flying saucers?"}, {"start": "04:49:50", "end": "04:49:54", "text": ">> Oh, they found a lot more than that."}, {"start": "04:49:57", "end": "04:50:02", "text": "In December 1938, aware that he was on"}, {"start": "04:50:00", "end": "04:50:05", "text": "the brink of war, Hitler dedicated"}, {"start": "04:50:02", "end": "04:50:07", "text": "considerable resources to searching for"}, {"start": "04:50:05", "end": "04:50:11", "text": "mysterious ancient artifacts said to"}, {"start": "04:50:07", "end": "04:50:11", "text": "have incredible power."}, {"start": "04:50:12", "end": "04:50:17", "text": ">> One of these expeditions launched on"}, {"start": "04:50:13", "end": "04:50:19", "text": "December 17th, 1938. The SS Schwabinland"}, {"start": "04:50:17", "end": "04:50:21", "text": "was sent on a secret mission to"}, {"start": "04:50:19", "end": "04:50:24", "text": "Antarctica. On board were scientists and"}, {"start": "04:50:21", "end": "04:50:27", "text": "engineers, but also members of the Tuli"}, {"start": "04:50:24", "end": "04:50:29", "text": "Society, a German occultist group. The"}, {"start": "04:50:27", "end": "04:50:31", "text": "Tuli Society believed that a highly"}, {"start": "04:50:29", "end": "04:50:34", "text": "advanced race of human-like beings"}, {"start": "04:50:31", "end": "04:50:36", "text": "called Aryans, existed somewhere deep"}, {"start": "04:50:34", "end": "04:50:38", "text": "inside the Earth, and the entrance to"}, {"start": "04:50:36", "end": "04:50:40", "text": "their world was at the South Pole. The"}, {"start": "04:50:38", "end": "04:50:42", "text": "classified mission of the SS"}, {"start": "04:50:40", "end": "04:50:44", "text": "Schwabinland was to find a location for"}, {"start": "04:50:42", "end": "04:50:46", "text": "a secret underground base and make"}, {"start": "04:50:44", "end": "04:50:49", "text": "contact with the Aryans living in the"}, {"start": "04:50:46", "end": "04:50:50", "text": "hollow Earth. and once contact was made"}, {"start": "04:50:49", "end": "04:50:52", "text": "negotiate for access to their"}, {"start": "04:50:50", "end": "04:50:54", "text": "technology. The ship reached the"}, {"start": "04:50:52", "end": "04:50:56", "text": "Antarctic coast a month later. For the"}, {"start": "04:50:54", "end": "04:50:58", "text": "next 3 weeks, they mapped hundreds of"}, {"start": "04:50:56", "end": "04:51:01", "text": "thousands of square miles of the"}, {"start": "04:50:58", "end": "04:51:04", "text": "continent. About 150 mi inland, aerial"}, {"start": "04:51:01", "end": "04:51:07", "text": "reconnaissance found what is described"}, {"start": "04:51:04", "end": "04:51:09", "text": "as an Arctic oasis, an area about 300"}, {"start": "04:51:07", "end": "04:51:11", "text": "square miles that was free of ice,"}, {"start": "04:51:09", "end": "04:51:13", "text": "filled with warm water, and even"}, {"start": "04:51:11", "end": "04:51:16", "text": "contained plant life. In the ocean"}, {"start": "04:51:13", "end": "04:51:19", "text": "beneath the oasis was a geothermal vent"}, {"start": "04:51:16", "end": "04:51:21", "text": "that kept the area relatively warm. This"}, {"start": "04:51:19", "end": "04:51:23", "text": "was the ideal place for a base,"}, {"start": "04:51:21", "end": "04:51:25", "text": "especially for yubot. This is where the"}, {"start": "04:51:23", "end": "04:51:27", "text": "Nazis would establish the infamous"}, {"start": "04:51:25", "end": "04:51:30", "text": "underground facility known as base 211."}, {"start": "04:51:27", "end": "04:51:33", "text": "Over the course of World War II, base"}, {"start": "04:51:30", "end": "04:51:35", "text": "211 became a massive complex as large as"}, {"start": "04:51:33", "end": "04:51:38", "text": "a small city. Initially, it was designed"}, {"start": "04:51:35", "end": "04:51:40", "text": "as an offensive structure where hubot"}, {"start": "04:51:38", "end": "04:51:42", "text": "and missiles could be deployed. But as"}, {"start": "04:51:40", "end": "04:51:44", "text": "the tide of war turned against the Axis"}, {"start": "04:51:42", "end": "04:51:46", "text": "powers, it became clear that the base"}, {"start": "04:51:44", "end": "04:51:49", "text": "would be an ideal way to escape. In the"}, {"start": "04:51:46", "end": "04:51:51", "text": "final months of the war, huge amounts of"}, {"start": "04:51:49", "end": "04:51:53", "text": "equipment, supplies, and personnel were"}, {"start": "04:51:51", "end": "04:51:56", "text": "transported to Antarctica. At the same"}, {"start": "04:51:53", "end": "04:51:58", "text": "time, thousands of Nazis escaped justice"}, {"start": "04:51:56", "end": "04:52:00", "text": "and were smuggled to South America with"}, {"start": "04:51:58", "end": "04:52:02", "text": "most of them hiding in Argentina. One of"}, {"start": "04:52:00", "end": "04:52:05", "text": "the infamous German officers to"}, {"start": "04:52:02", "end": "04:52:06", "text": "disappear was Hans Cameler. Cameler was"}, {"start": "04:52:05", "end": "04:52:09", "text": "in charge of Hitler's secret weapons"}, {"start": "04:52:06", "end": "04:52:11", "text": "program. Camel's engineers had created a"}, {"start": "04:52:09", "end": "04:52:14", "text": "prototype long-d distanceance supply"}, {"start": "04:52:11", "end": "04:52:17", "text": "plane with a range of over 4,000 mi"}, {"start": "04:52:14", "end": "04:52:19", "text": "called the Ju390. Only two of these were"}, {"start": "04:52:17", "end": "04:52:22", "text": "made. One of them belonged to Cameler."}, {"start": "04:52:19", "end": "04:52:25", "text": "And as of April 1945, neither came nor"}, {"start": "04:52:22", "end": "04:52:27", "text": "his plane have ever been found. And just"}, {"start": "04:52:25", "end": "04:52:29", "text": "a few months later, thousands of UFO"}, {"start": "04:52:27", "end": "04:52:31", "text": "sightings were reported all over South"}, {"start": "04:52:29", "end": "04:52:33", "text": "America. The American government feared"}, {"start": "04:52:31", "end": "04:52:35", "text": "that Cameler and his scientists had"}, {"start": "04:52:33", "end": "04:52:38", "text": "escaped to Antarctica where they were"}, {"start": "04:52:35", "end": "04:52:40", "text": "continuing their work operating out of a"}, {"start": "04:52:38", "end": "04:52:43", "text": "secret military base hidden deep"}, {"start": "04:52:40", "end": "04:52:45", "text": "underground. But these were just rumors."}, {"start": "04:52:43", "end": "04:52:49", "text": "There was only one way to find out. Go"}, {"start": "04:52:45", "end": "04:52:49", "text": "to Antarctica."}, {"start": "04:52:52", "end": "04:52:55", "text": "Okay, before we talk about what Admiral"}, {"start": "04:52:54", "end": "04:52:57", "text": "Bird saw in Antarctica,"}, {"start": "04:52:55", "end": "04:52:57", "text": ">> Oh, come on. Just get to the weird"}, {"start": "04:52:57", "end": "04:52:59", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "04:52:57", "end": "04:53:01", "text": ">> I will. But it's important that you"}, {"start": "04:52:59", "end": "04:53:03", "text": "understand what kind of man Richard Bird"}, {"start": "04:53:01", "end": "04:53:06", "text": "was. He was not some pseudocience"}, {"start": "04:53:03", "end": "04:53:08", "text": "conspiracy theorist cook. He was a"}, {"start": "04:53:06", "end": "04:53:10", "text": "legitimate badass. Here are the bullet"}, {"start": "04:53:08", "end": "04:53:13", "text": "points. Richard Bird reached the rank of"}, {"start": "04:53:10", "end": "04:53:15", "text": "Rear Admiral by the age of 41, the"}, {"start": "04:53:13", "end": "04:53:17", "text": "youngest admiral in Navy history. Now,"}, {"start": "04:53:15", "end": "04:53:19", "text": "that by itself is impressive, but how"}, {"start": "04:53:17", "end": "04:53:21", "text": "about this? He was a recipient of the"}, {"start": "04:53:19", "end": "04:53:24", "text": "Medal of Honor, the Navy Cross, the"}, {"start": "04:53:21", "end": "04:53:27", "text": "Flying Cross, and the Silver Life-Saving"}, {"start": "04:53:24", "end": "04:53:29", "text": "Medal. In all, he received 22 citations"}, {"start": "04:53:27", "end": "04:53:31", "text": "and commendations, including nine for"}, {"start": "04:53:29", "end": "04:53:34", "text": "bravery and two for extraordinary"}, {"start": "04:53:31", "end": "04:53:36", "text": "heroism. He was to this day one of the"}, {"start": "04:53:34", "end": "04:53:38", "text": "most highly decorated officers in the"}, {"start": "04:53:36", "end": "04:53:40", "text": "history of the Navy. Now, his resume"}, {"start": "04:53:38", "end": "04:53:42", "text": "goes on, but I think you get the point."}, {"start": "04:53:40", "end": "04:53:44", "text": "If Admiral Bird says he wants to be the"}, {"start": "04:53:42", "end": "04:53:46", "text": "first man to fly over the North Pole, he"}, {"start": "04:53:44", "end": "04:53:49", "text": "doesn't. And if the United States sends"}, {"start": "04:53:46", "end": "04:53:51", "text": "a major expedition to the South Pole to"}, {"start": "04:53:49", "end": "04:53:53", "text": "conduct a top secret mission, well,"}, {"start": "04:53:51", "end": "04:53:54", "text": "there's no more qualified person on the"}, {"start": "04:53:53", "end": "04:53:57", "text": "face of the Earth to lead it than"}, {"start": "04:53:54", "end": "04:54:00", "text": "Admiral Richard E. Bird. Operation High"}, {"start": "04:53:57", "end": "04:54:02", "text": "Jump commenced in August 1946. The"}, {"start": "04:54:00", "end": "04:54:04", "text": "official purpose of the mission was to"}, {"start": "04:54:02", "end": "04:54:06", "text": "train personnel and test equipment in"}, {"start": "04:54:04", "end": "04:54:09", "text": "cold temperatures, to explore Arctic"}, {"start": "04:54:06", "end": "04:54:11", "text": "geology, study the weather, and develop"}, {"start": "04:54:09", "end": "04:54:14", "text": "techniques for establishing air bases in"}, {"start": "04:54:11", "end": "04:54:17", "text": "frigid climates. Admiral Bird led a Navy"}, {"start": "04:54:14", "end": "04:54:19", "text": "task force of almost 5,000 men aboard 13"}, {"start": "04:54:17", "end": "04:54:21", "text": "ships, including a brand new"}, {"start": "04:54:19", "end": "04:54:24", "text": "state-of-the-art aircraft carrier loaded"}, {"start": "04:54:21", "end": "04:54:26", "text": "with dozens of planes, bombers, and"}, {"start": "04:54:24", "end": "04:54:29", "text": "helicopters. This task force was armed"}, {"start": "04:54:26", "end": "04:54:32", "text": "to the teeth. There were two destroyers,"}, {"start": "04:54:29", "end": "04:54:34", "text": "tankers, supply ships, ice breakers, two"}, {"start": "04:54:32", "end": "04:54:37", "text": "heavily armed sea planes, and an attack"}, {"start": "04:54:34", "end": "04:54:39", "text": "submarine, all fully stocked with the"}, {"start": "04:54:37", "end": "04:54:41", "text": "best weapons in the entire Navy. That's"}, {"start": "04:54:39", "end": "04:54:43", "text": "a lot of firepower for training"}, {"start": "04:54:41", "end": "04:54:46", "text": "exercises and studying the weather,"}, {"start": "04:54:43", "end": "04:54:48", "text": ">> right? That mission was the cover story."}, {"start": "04:54:46", "end": "04:54:50", "text": "No personnel training or equipment"}, {"start": "04:54:48", "end": "04:54:53", "text": "testing ever took place. No practice"}, {"start": "04:54:50", "end": "04:54:56", "text": "maneuvers, no military exercises, no"}, {"start": "04:54:53", "end": "04:54:58", "text": "scientific study of any kind was ever"}, {"start": "04:54:56", "end": "04:55:00", "text": "done. According to eyewitness testimony,"}, {"start": "04:54:58", "end": "04:55:03", "text": "declassified records, and Bird's own"}, {"start": "04:55:00", "end": "04:55:06", "text": "journal, Operation High Jump had other"}, {"start": "04:55:03", "end": "04:55:08", "text": "purposes. One goal was to extend"}, {"start": "04:55:06", "end": "04:55:10", "text": "American sovereignty over the Antarctic"}, {"start": "04:55:08", "end": "04:55:12", "text": "continent, something that was denied"}, {"start": "04:55:10", "end": "04:55:12", "text": "many times publicly by the US"}, {"start": "04:55:12", "end": "04:55:13", "text": "government,"}, {"start": "04:55:12", "end": "04:55:16", "text": ">> naturally."}, {"start": "04:55:13", "end": "04:55:18", "text": ">> The other goal was to locate and destroy"}, {"start": "04:55:16", "end": "04:55:21", "text": "the secret Nazi military complex known"}, {"start": "04:55:18", "end": "04:55:23", "text": "as base 211 and to capture any flying"}, {"start": "04:55:21", "end": "04:55:26", "text": "saucers they could. The Armada arrived"}, {"start": "04:55:23", "end": "04:55:28", "text": "on January 15th and immediately started"}, {"start": "04:55:26", "end": "04:55:31", "text": "building a base called Little America."}, {"start": "04:55:28", "end": "04:55:33", "text": "But then the Operation High Jump story"}, {"start": "04:55:31", "end": "04:55:36", "text": "takes a turn. Originally meant to be a 6"}, {"start": "04:55:33", "end": "04:55:39", "text": "to 8month mission, after just 40 days,"}, {"start": "04:55:36", "end": "04:55:42", "text": "the base is evacuated and the task force"}, {"start": "04:55:39", "end": "04:55:44", "text": "withdraws. This massive, expensive, and"}, {"start": "04:55:42", "end": "04:55:47", "text": "important mission, is suddenly"}, {"start": "04:55:44", "end": "04:55:50", "text": "terminated. So what happened? And this"}, {"start": "04:55:47", "end": "04:55:55", "text": "is where Admiral Bird, a legend in his"}, {"start": "04:55:50", "end": "04:55:55", "text": "own time, becomes a legend for all time."}, {"start": "04:55:58", "end": "04:56:03", "text": "The Navy task force retreated to Chile"}, {"start": "04:56:01", "end": "04:56:05", "text": "and as soon as they made port, rumors"}, {"start": "04:56:03", "end": "04:56:07", "text": "spread about strange findings and"}, {"start": "04:56:05", "end": "04:56:10", "text": "disasters that forced the mission to be"}, {"start": "04:56:07", "end": "04:56:12", "text": "cut short. Admiral Bird himself spoke to"}, {"start": "04:56:10", "end": "04:56:14", "text": "the media and rather than deny the"}, {"start": "04:56:12", "end": "04:56:17", "text": "stories, he expressed deep concern about"}, {"start": "04:56:14", "end": "04:56:19", "text": "the real possibilities of devastating"}, {"start": "04:56:17", "end": "04:56:20", "text": "aerial attacks on the US."}, {"start": "04:56:19", "end": "04:56:22", "text": ">> This doesn't sound like a guy on a"}, {"start": "04:56:20", "end": "04:56:24", "text": "scientific mission."}, {"start": "04:56:22", "end": "04:56:27", "text": ">> It sure doesn't. Bird warned that it was"}, {"start": "04:56:24", "end": "04:56:28", "text": "imperative for the United States to take"}, {"start": "04:56:27", "end": "04:56:30", "text": "immediate defensive measures against"}, {"start": "04:56:28", "end": "04:56:33", "text": "hostile forces in the Arctic and"}, {"start": "04:56:30", "end": "04:56:35", "text": "Antarctic. The admiral went on to say"}, {"start": "04:56:33", "end": "04:56:36", "text": "that he wasn't trying to alarm anyone."}, {"start": "04:56:35", "end": "04:56:38", "text": ">> Too late."}, {"start": "04:56:36", "end": "04:56:40", "text": ">> But the cruel reality is that in case of"}, {"start": "04:56:38", "end": "04:56:43", "text": "a new war, the United States could be"}, {"start": "04:56:40", "end": "04:56:45", "text": "attacked by flying objects that had the"}, {"start": "04:56:43", "end": "04:56:48", "text": "ability to move from pole to pole at"}, {"start": "04:56:45", "end": "04:56:49", "text": "incredible speeds. Admiral Bird"}, {"start": "04:56:48", "end": "04:56:51", "text": "reiterated this in a few different"}, {"start": "04:56:49", "end": "04:56:54", "text": "statements. He warned that there was a"}, {"start": "04:56:51", "end": "04:56:56", "text": "new enemy that could attack any country"}, {"start": "04:56:54", "end": "04:56:59", "text": "at any time, anywhere, no matter the"}, {"start": "04:56:56", "end": "04:57:00", "text": "distance. When Admiral Bird got back to"}, {"start": "04:56:59", "end": "04:57:02", "text": "Washington, he was immediately"}, {"start": "04:57:00", "end": "04:57:05", "text": "debriefed. And though he had just spent"}, {"start": "04:57:02", "end": "04:57:07", "text": "2 weeks making statements in the press,"}, {"start": "04:57:05", "end": "04:57:10", "text": "after a lengthy interrogation, Admiral"}, {"start": "04:57:07", "end": "04:57:12", "text": "Bird never uttered another word about"}, {"start": "04:57:10", "end": "04:57:14", "text": "Operation High Jump. The mission was"}, {"start": "04:57:12", "end": "04:57:16", "text": "immediately classified top secret, and"}, {"start": "04:57:14", "end": "04:57:18", "text": "any sailor who spoke about the mission"}, {"start": "04:57:16", "end": "04:57:20", "text": "would be arrested and imprisoned. The"}, {"start": "04:57:18", "end": "04:57:22", "text": "Navy then published a brief summary of"}, {"start": "04:57:20", "end": "04:57:24", "text": "the mission's achievements and admitted"}, {"start": "04:57:22", "end": "04:57:26", "text": "some sailors were killed, but they"}, {"start": "04:57:24", "end": "04:57:29", "text": "didn't say how many. And officially, all"}, {"start": "04:57:26", "end": "04:57:31", "text": "the deaths were accidents and the bodies"}, {"start": "04:57:29", "end": "04:57:33", "text": "were buried bare, not brought home."}, {"start": "04:57:31", "end": "04:57:35", "text": "During one of his flights, Admiral Bird"}, {"start": "04:57:33", "end": "04:57:37", "text": "was missing for 3 hours in an episode of"}, {"start": "04:57:35", "end": "04:57:40", "text": "lost time, but that was officially"}, {"start": "04:57:37", "end": "04:57:42", "text": "blamed on radio failure. The official"}, {"start": "04:57:40", "end": "04:57:44", "text": "reason for terminating the mission early"}, {"start": "04:57:42", "end": "04:57:47", "text": "was poor weather conditions, and that"}, {"start": "04:57:44", "end": "04:57:49", "text": "was that. However, you know how Admiral"}, {"start": "04:57:47", "end": "04:57:50", "text": "Bird was missing for 3 hours and"}, {"start": "04:57:49", "end": "04:57:51", "text": "experienced lost time?"}, {"start": "04:57:50", "end": "04:57:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "04:57:51", "end": "04:57:55", "text": ">> Well, Bird was meticulous at documenting"}, {"start": "04:57:53", "end": "04:57:57", "text": "everything, but when he returned to the"}, {"start": "04:57:55", "end": "04:58:00", "text": "States, his journals were confiscated"}, {"start": "04:57:57", "end": "04:58:02", "text": "and classified. But the government"}, {"start": "04:58:00", "end": "04:58:04", "text": "didn't get everything. He had a secret"}, {"start": "04:58:02", "end": "04:58:06", "text": "diary that he gave to his son right"}, {"start": "04:58:04", "end": "04:58:09", "text": "before he died. And if any of what he"}, {"start": "04:58:06", "end": "04:58:12", "text": "claims to have seen is true, well, it"}, {"start": "04:58:09", "end": "04:58:15", "text": "changes everything."}, {"start": "04:58:12", "end": "04:58:15", "text": "According"}, {"start": "04:58:17", "end": "04:58:21", "text": "to Admiral Bird's diary, he fuels up for"}, {"start": "04:58:19", "end": "04:58:23", "text": "a flight early in the morning. The"}, {"start": "04:58:21", "end": "04:58:25", "text": "weather is clear and mechanically the"}, {"start": "04:58:23", "end": "04:58:28", "text": "plane checks out. At 8:15, at an"}, {"start": "04:58:25", "end": "04:58:32", "text": "altitude of 2,300 ft, he checks in."}, {"start": "04:58:28", "end": "04:58:33", "text": ">> 0815 hours. Radio check with base camp."}, {"start": "04:58:32", "end": "04:58:35", "text": "Situation normal."}, {"start": "04:58:33", "end": "04:58:37", "text": ">> At 10 after 9, he notices a color"}, {"start": "04:58:35", "end": "04:58:40", "text": "pattern in the snow. Nothing extreme,"}, {"start": "04:58:37", "end": "04:58:42", "text": "but he circles the area to get a closer"}, {"start": "04:58:40", "end": "04:58:45", "text": "look. He makes visual contact with camp"}, {"start": "04:58:42", "end": "04:58:47", "text": "and radios in his findings. Then his"}, {"start": "04:58:45", "end": "04:58:49", "text": "instruments start to act strange. He"}, {"start": "04:58:47", "end": "04:58:51", "text": "writes that both his compasses are"}, {"start": "04:58:49", "end": "04:58:54", "text": "gyrating so much that he can't even use"}, {"start": "04:58:51", "end": "04:58:56", "text": "them. So he uses the sun to navigate and"}, {"start": "04:58:54", "end": "04:58:59", "text": "maintains a visual of camp. He reports"}, {"start": "04:58:56", "end": "04:59:01", "text": "that his controls are feeling sluggish."}, {"start": "04:58:59", "end": "04:59:03", "text": "He's concerned about the wings icing up."}, {"start": "04:59:01", "end": "04:59:05", "text": "There's a little ice, but no indication"}, {"start": "04:59:03", "end": "04:59:07", "text": "of a problem, so he continues flying"}, {"start": "04:59:05", "end": "04:59:11", "text": "toward what he perceives as a mountain"}, {"start": "04:59:07", "end": "04:59:13", "text": "range. 0949 hours 29 minutes elapsed"}, {"start": "04:59:11", "end": "04:59:15", "text": "flight time from the first sighting of"}, {"start": "04:59:13", "end": "04:59:17", "text": "the mountains. It is no illusion. They"}, {"start": "04:59:15", "end": "04:59:19", "text": "are mountains and consisting of a small"}, {"start": "04:59:17", "end": "04:59:21", "text": "range that I have never seen before. He"}, {"start": "04:59:19", "end": "04:59:23", "text": "crosses the mountain range and descends"}, {"start": "04:59:21", "end": "04:59:25", "text": "toward what he describes as a green"}, {"start": "04:59:23", "end": "04:59:26", "text": "valley with a small river running"}, {"start": "04:59:25", "end": "04:59:28", "text": "through it."}, {"start": "04:59:26", "end": "04:59:29", "text": ">> There should be no green valley below."}, {"start": "04:59:28", "end": "04:59:32", "text": "Something is definitely wrong and"}, {"start": "04:59:29", "end": "04:59:34", "text": "abnormal here. We should be over ice and"}, {"start": "04:59:32", "end": "04:59:36", "text": "snow. To the port side are great forests"}, {"start": "04:59:34", "end": "04:59:38", "text": "growing on the mountain slopes. Our"}, {"start": "04:59:36", "end": "04:59:40", "text": "navigation instruments are still"}, {"start": "04:59:38", "end": "04:59:41", "text": "spinning. The gyroscope is oscillating"}, {"start": "04:59:40", "end": "04:59:43", "text": "back and forth."}, {"start": "04:59:41", "end": "04:59:45", "text": ">> He drops down a bit and circles back for"}, {"start": "04:59:43", "end": "04:59:48", "text": "a closer look. He reports the green as"}, {"start": "04:59:45", "end": "04:59:50", "text": "being moss or tight grass. The light"}, {"start": "04:59:48", "end": "04:59:52", "text": "seems different here. He can see the"}, {"start": "04:59:50", "end": "04:59:54", "text": "ground easily, but he can no longer see"}, {"start": "04:59:52", "end": "04:59:56", "text": "the sun. Now, this starts to worry him"}, {"start": "04:59:54", "end": "04:59:59", "text": "because he's using the sun to navigate,"}, {"start": "04:59:56", "end": "05:00:01", "text": "but he gets distracted by something he"}, {"start": "04:59:59", "end": "05:00:04", "text": "didn't expect. On the green valley"}, {"start": "05:00:01", "end": "05:00:06", "text": "below, a large animal is grazing. It"}, {"start": "05:00:04", "end": "05:00:09", "text": "appears to be an elephant. No, it looks"}, {"start": "05:00:06", "end": "05:00:11", "text": "more like a mammoth. This is incredible."}, {"start": "05:00:09", "end": "05:00:14", "text": "Yet, there it is. Decrease altitude to"}, {"start": "05:00:11", "end": "05:00:16", "text": "1,000 ft and take binoculars to better"}, {"start": "05:00:14", "end": "05:00:18", "text": "examine the animal. It is confirmed it"}, {"start": "05:00:16", "end": "05:00:20", "text": "is definitely a mammoth-like animal."}, {"start": "05:00:18", "end": "05:00:22", "text": "Report this to base cam."}, {"start": "05:00:20", "end": "05:00:24", "text": ">> Admiral Bird flies over green pastures"}, {"start": "05:00:22", "end": "05:00:27", "text": "that stretch for miles. And he's so"}, {"start": "05:00:24", "end": "05:00:29", "text": "amazed by what he's seeing, it takes him"}, {"start": "05:00:27", "end": "05:00:31", "text": "almost 30 minutes to realize it's not"}, {"start": "05:00:29", "end": "05:00:34", "text": "cold anymore. Frost on his forward"}, {"start": "05:00:31", "end": "05:00:36", "text": "window is gone. Same with the bits of"}, {"start": "05:00:34", "end": "05:00:38", "text": "ice that were on the wings. He removes"}, {"start": "05:00:36", "end": "05:00:41", "text": "his gloves. The window of the canopy is"}, {"start": "05:00:38", "end": "05:00:44", "text": "warm to the touch. He records an"}, {"start": "05:00:41", "end": "05:00:47", "text": "external air temperature of 74° F. His"}, {"start": "05:00:44", "end": "05:00:49", "text": "instruments are now back online, but his"}, {"start": "05:00:47", "end": "05:00:51", "text": "radio is out. And remember, in the"}, {"start": "05:00:49", "end": "05:00:54", "text": "official report, Admiral Bird was out of"}, {"start": "05:00:51", "end": "05:00:57", "text": "radio contact for 3 hours. So, he flies"}, {"start": "05:00:54", "end": "05:00:59", "text": "for another hour over what looks to be a"}, {"start": "05:00:57", "end": "05:01:03", "text": "countryside or a pasture. On the"}, {"start": "05:00:59", "end": "05:01:05", "text": "horizon, he sees the impossible. a large"}, {"start": "05:01:03", "end": "05:01:07", "text": "shining city. The plane shutters."}, {"start": "05:01:05", "end": "05:01:10", "text": "Admiral Bird grabs the controls, but"}, {"start": "05:01:07", "end": "05:01:13", "text": "they're not responding. He notices the"}, {"start": "05:01:10", "end": "05:01:16", "text": "plane feels light and buoyant. Then, on"}, {"start": "05:01:13", "end": "05:01:18", "text": "both sides of the plane, strange"}, {"start": "05:01:16", "end": "05:01:20", "text": "aircraft are rapidly closing in. They're"}, {"start": "05:01:18", "end": "05:01:23", "text": "disc shaped and seem to be radiating"}, {"start": "05:01:20", "end": "05:01:25", "text": "light. And somehow, they're running"}, {"start": "05:01:23", "end": "05:01:27", "text": "completely silent. Now, thinking this is"}, {"start": "05:01:25", "end": "05:01:29", "text": "now a really good time to head back,"}, {"start": "05:01:27", "end": "05:01:32", "text": "Admiral Bird tries the controls again."}, {"start": "05:01:29", "end": "05:01:35", "text": "No luck. The plane's engine suddenly"}, {"start": "05:01:32", "end": "05:01:37", "text": "cuts out, but somehow continues flying,"}, {"start": "05:01:35", "end": "05:01:39", "text": "controlled by some unseen force. The"}, {"start": "05:01:37", "end": "05:01:41", "text": "craft are right up alongside his plane"}, {"start": "05:01:39", "end": "05:01:44", "text": "now, close enough that Admiral Bird can"}, {"start": "05:01:41", "end": "05:01:46", "text": "see markings. In that instant, his"}, {"start": "05:01:44", "end": "05:01:49", "text": "wonder turns to terror. The markings are"}, {"start": "05:01:46", "end": "05:01:49", "text": "swastikas."}, {"start": "05:01:54", "end": "05:01:59", "text": "According to documents leaked in 1991,"}, {"start": "05:01:56", "end": "05:02:01", "text": "things back at Camp Little America take"}, {"start": "05:01:59", "end": "05:02:03", "text": "a strange turn. Just 2 days after"}, {"start": "05:02:01", "end": "05:02:05", "text": "arriving, bright lights were seen on the"}, {"start": "05:02:03", "end": "05:02:07", "text": "horizon. The sailors thought it was"}, {"start": "05:02:05", "end": "05:02:10", "text": "another ship, but they were below the"}, {"start": "05:02:07", "end": "05:02:12", "text": "Antarctic Circle in uncharted waters."}, {"start": "05:02:10", "end": "05:02:15", "text": "The lights then ascended at a 45° angle"}, {"start": "05:02:12", "end": "05:02:17", "text": "into the sky very quickly. They tried to"}, {"start": "05:02:15", "end": "05:02:20", "text": "make radar contact, but were out of"}, {"start": "05:02:17", "end": "05:02:22", "text": "range. 3 hours later, five more lights"}, {"start": "05:02:20", "end": "05:02:24", "text": "appeared in the sky and began flying"}, {"start": "05:02:22", "end": "05:02:27", "text": "directly toward the ships. Anti-aircraft"}, {"start": "05:02:24", "end": "05:02:29", "text": "guns and 20 mm cannons were fired, but"}, {"start": "05:02:27", "end": "05:02:32", "text": "had no effect. A radio operator"}, {"start": "05:02:29", "end": "05:02:34", "text": "stationed on the USS Brownson gave"}, {"start": "05:02:32", "end": "05:02:36", "text": "testimony of how strange craft suddenly"}, {"start": "05:02:34", "end": "05:02:38", "text": "appeared from the ocean. This is"}, {"start": "05:02:36", "end": "05:02:40", "text": "corroborated by Lieutenant John Serson"}, {"start": "05:02:38", "end": "05:02:43", "text": "who said objects shot vertically out of"}, {"start": "05:02:40", "end": "05:02:45", "text": "the water at tremendous speeds. One"}, {"start": "05:02:43", "end": "05:02:47", "text": "object flew between the mass of a ship"}, {"start": "05:02:45", "end": "05:02:49", "text": "with such force that the radio antenna"}, {"start": "05:02:47", "end": "05:02:51", "text": "oscillated back and forth from the"}, {"start": "05:02:49", "end": "05:02:53", "text": "turbulence. An aircraft from the USS"}, {"start": "05:02:51", "end": "05:02:56", "text": "Kuratuk took to the sky but was"}, {"start": "05:02:53", "end": "05:02:58", "text": "immediately struck by a beam of energy"}, {"start": "05:02:56", "end": "05:03:01", "text": "and destroyed about 10 mi away. The"}, {"start": "05:02:58", "end": "05:03:03", "text": "torpedo boat USS Maddox burst into"}, {"start": "05:03:01", "end": "05:03:05", "text": "flames and began to sink. According to"}, {"start": "05:03:03", "end": "05:03:07", "text": "the report, this was the first attack of"}, {"start": "05:03:05", "end": "05:03:09", "text": "several that would occur over the next"}, {"start": "05:03:07", "end": "05:03:12", "text": "few weeks. February 26th would be the"}, {"start": "05:03:09", "end": "05:03:14", "text": "last engagement with the unknown craft."}, {"start": "05:03:12", "end": "05:03:16", "text": "The Navy task force ordered retreat and"}, {"start": "05:03:14", "end": "05:03:18", "text": "left the area a full 6 months before"}, {"start": "05:03:16", "end": "05:03:20", "text": "their mission was supposed to end."}, {"start": "05:03:18", "end": "05:03:22", "text": "Although Lieutenant Serson couldn't"}, {"start": "05:03:20", "end": "05:03:24", "text": "identify the lights, he wondered if they"}, {"start": "05:03:22", "end": "05:03:27", "text": "were what he called German wonder"}, {"start": "05:03:24", "end": "05:03:29", "text": "weapons being operated by survivors of"}, {"start": "05:03:27", "end": "05:03:31", "text": "the recently defeated Third Reich"}, {"start": "05:03:29", "end": "05:03:34", "text": "operating out of a secret base under"}, {"start": "05:03:31", "end": "05:03:36", "text": "Antarctica. His testimony has fueled"}, {"start": "05:03:34", "end": "05:03:38", "text": "speculation that still exists. And to"}, {"start": "05:03:36", "end": "05:03:41", "text": "this day, investigators are trying to"}, {"start": "05:03:38", "end": "05:03:45", "text": "determine what really happened during"}, {"start": "05:03:41", "end": "05:03:45", "text": "Operation High Jump."}, {"start": "05:03:49", "end": "05:03:53", "text": "Admiral Bird's radio, which hadn't been"}, {"start": "05:03:51", "end": "05:03:55", "text": "working for at least an hour, suddenly"}, {"start": "05:03:53", "end": "05:03:58", "text": "comes back to life. Though the signal"}, {"start": "05:03:55", "end": "05:04:01", "text": "was distorted, a voice starts speaking"}, {"start": "05:03:58", "end": "05:04:03", "text": "English with a slightly German accent."}, {"start": "05:04:01", "end": "05:04:05", "text": "Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. We"}, {"start": "05:04:03", "end": "05:04:08", "text": "shall land you in exactly 7 minutes."}, {"start": "05:04:05", "end": "05:04:10", "text": "Relax, Admiral. You are in good hands."}, {"start": "05:04:08", "end": "05:04:13", "text": ">> The plane gently lands itself, and"}, {"start": "05:04:10", "end": "05:04:14", "text": "Admiral Bird is met by several men, all"}, {"start": "05:04:13", "end": "05:04:15", "text": "tall with blonde hair."}, {"start": "05:04:14", "end": "05:04:18", "text": ">> Arians."}, {"start": "05:04:15", "end": "05:04:20", "text": ">> Sounds like it. Bird joins the strangers"}, {"start": "05:04:18", "end": "05:04:22", "text": "on a platform that levitates and rushes"}, {"start": "05:04:20", "end": "05:04:24", "text": "them toward the city at great speed."}, {"start": "05:04:22", "end": "05:04:26", "text": "He's directed to an elevator that takes"}, {"start": "05:04:24", "end": "05:04:28", "text": "him quickly and silently deep"}, {"start": "05:04:26", "end": "05:04:31", "text": "underground. He is to have an audience"}, {"start": "05:04:28", "end": "05:04:33", "text": "with the master. Admiral Bird is led"}, {"start": "05:04:31", "end": "05:04:35", "text": "into another room where an older man is"}, {"start": "05:04:33", "end": "05:04:37", "text": "seated at a long table. Admiral Bird is"}, {"start": "05:04:35", "end": "05:04:40", "text": "asked to sit down. The master says his"}, {"start": "05:04:37", "end": "05:04:42", "text": "people are called the Ariani and they've"}, {"start": "05:04:40", "end": "05:04:44", "text": "been observing humans for a long time,"}, {"start": "05:04:42", "end": "05:04:47", "text": "but only now are they choosing to"}, {"start": "05:04:44", "end": "05:04:49", "text": "interfere. The master says that Admiral"}, {"start": "05:04:47", "end": "05:04:51", "text": "Bird's race is too immature for atomic"}, {"start": "05:04:49", "end": "05:04:53", "text": "energy and are at risk of destroying"}, {"start": "05:04:51", "end": "05:04:55", "text": "themselves. The master says every time"}, {"start": "05:04:53", "end": "05:04:58", "text": "they try to make contact, their ships"}, {"start": "05:04:55", "end": "05:05:00", "text": "are fired upon and pursued by fighter"}, {"start": "05:04:58", "end": "05:05:02", "text": "planes. So instead, they chose Admiral"}, {"start": "05:05:00", "end": "05:05:05", "text": "Bird to carry this message because he's"}, {"start": "05:05:02", "end": "05:05:06", "text": "a famous and wellrespected figure. The"}, {"start": "05:05:05", "end": "05:05:09", "text": "master hopes that the world will believe"}, {"start": "05:05:06", "end": "05:05:11", "text": "him. After the meeting, the admiral is"}, {"start": "05:05:09", "end": "05:05:13", "text": "escorted back to his plane. And after"}, {"start": "05:05:11", "end": "05:05:14", "text": "flying for a few minutes, a voice comes"}, {"start": "05:05:13", "end": "05:05:17", "text": "through the radio that control of the"}, {"start": "05:05:14", "end": "05:05:19", "text": "aircraft is now his. A voice says,"}, {"start": "05:05:17", "end": "05:05:21", "text": "\"Aidaane and disconnects.\""}, {"start": "05:05:19", "end": "05:05:24", "text": ">> Definitely Aryans. When Admiral Bird"}, {"start": "05:05:21", "end": "05:05:26", "text": "arrives at the Pentagon in March 1947,"}, {"start": "05:05:24", "end": "05:05:28", "text": "he is debriefed and interrogated for"}, {"start": "05:05:26", "end": "05:05:30", "text": "hours. He relays the message from the"}, {"start": "05:05:28", "end": "05:05:32", "text": "master and advises the president. He's"}, {"start": "05:05:30", "end": "05:05:35", "text": "ordered to remain silent about the"}, {"start": "05:05:32", "end": "05:05:36", "text": "operation. And indeed, Admiral Richard"}, {"start": "05:05:35", "end": "05:05:38", "text": "Bird never spoke a word about this"}, {"start": "05:05:36", "end": "05:05:41", "text": "mission again. The final entry in his"}, {"start": "05:05:38", "end": "05:05:43", "text": "diary is a number of years later."}, {"start": "05:05:41", "end": "05:05:45", "text": "Admiral Bird feels what he calls the"}, {"start": "05:05:43", "end": "05:05:47", "text": "long night coming, but doesn't want this"}, {"start": "05:05:45", "end": "05:05:49", "text": "knowledge to die with him. Just as the"}, {"start": "05:05:47", "end": "05:05:51", "text": "long night of the Arctic ends, the"}, {"start": "05:05:49", "end": "05:05:53", "text": "brilliant sunshine of truth shall come"}, {"start": "05:05:51", "end": "05:05:56", "text": "again. And those who are of darkness"}, {"start": "05:05:53", "end": "05:05:58", "text": "shall fall in its light. For I have seen"}, {"start": "05:05:56", "end": "05:06:01", "text": "that land beyond the pole, that center"}, {"start": "05:05:58", "end": "05:06:04", "text": "of the great unknown. Admiral Richard E."}, {"start": "05:06:01", "end": "05:06:06", "text": "Bird, United States Navy, 24th of"}, {"start": "05:06:04", "end": "05:06:08", "text": "December, 1956."}, {"start": "05:06:06", "end": "05:06:11", "text": "And Admiral Bird passed away 3 months"}, {"start": "05:06:08", "end": "05:06:13", "text": "later. This secret diary was found by"}, {"start": "05:06:11", "end": "05:06:15", "text": "his son, Richard Bird Jr., and"}, {"start": "05:06:13", "end": "05:06:18", "text": "subsequently released, as was his"}, {"start": "05:06:15", "end": "05:06:20", "text": "father's wish. And 18 months after that,"}, {"start": "05:06:18", "end": "05:06:21", "text": "the Antarctic Treaty was signed,"}, {"start": "05:06:20", "end": "05:06:23", "text": "forbidding anyone from going to"}, {"start": "05:06:21", "end": "05:06:26", "text": "Antarctica without special permission"}, {"start": "05:06:23", "end": "05:06:28", "text": "from one of 12 signatory governments."}, {"start": "05:06:26", "end": "05:06:30", "text": "And even with special permission, you"}, {"start": "05:06:28", "end": "05:06:33", "text": "may only go in a few small designated"}, {"start": "05:06:30", "end": "05:06:34", "text": "areas. Antarctica is bigger than Europe,"}, {"start": "05:06:33", "end": "05:06:37", "text": "bigger than Australia, bigger than the"}, {"start": "05:06:34", "end": "05:06:41", "text": "entire United States, yet all that land"}, {"start": "05:06:37", "end": "05:06:43", "text": "is off limits. Why was there a secret"}, {"start": "05:06:41", "end": "05:06:45", "text": "Nazi base? Is there a civilization"}, {"start": "05:06:43", "end": "05:06:48", "text": "living underground? The UFOs described"}, {"start": "05:06:45", "end": "05:06:51", "text": "by the sailors in 1947 behave an awful"}, {"start": "05:06:48", "end": "05:06:53", "text": "lot like UFOs we're seeing right now."}, {"start": "05:06:51", "end": "05:06:55", "text": "Since we can't go to their world, they"}, {"start": "05:06:53", "end": "05:06:57", "text": "could be trying to come to us with the"}, {"start": "05:06:55", "end": "05:06:59", "text": "same warning they gave Admiral Bird. So"}, {"start": "05:06:57", "end": "05:07:02", "text": "maybe instead of trying to destroy these"}, {"start": "05:06:59", "end": "05:07:04", "text": "craft and destroy each other, we might"}, {"start": "05:07:02", "end": "05:07:06", "text": "want to listen to what they have to say."}, {"start": "05:07:04", "end": "05:07:10", "text": "And who knows, the entire fate of the"}, {"start": "05:07:06", "end": "05:07:10", "text": "world may depend on it."}, {"start": "05:07:14", "end": "05:07:20", "text": "Okay, talk about a story having it all."}, {"start": "05:07:17", "end": "05:07:22", "text": "UFOs, Nazi bases, government cover-ups,"}, {"start": "05:07:20", "end": "05:07:23", "text": "even Hollow Earth. And I've done a lot"}, {"start": "05:07:22", "end": "05:07:25", "text": "of research on Hollow Earth. So, if you"}, {"start": "05:07:23", "end": "05:07:27", "text": "want to see that video, let me know in"}, {"start": "05:07:25", "end": "05:07:29", "text": "the comments. Anyway, I'll tell you"}, {"start": "05:07:27", "end": "05:07:32", "text": "right up front, there's a lot of the"}, {"start": "05:07:29", "end": "05:07:34", "text": "story that can be debunked, but not all"}, {"start": "05:07:32", "end": "05:07:36", "text": "of it. Let's start with Admiral Bird's"}, {"start": "05:07:34", "end": "05:07:38", "text": "secret diary. It's not real. First of"}, {"start": "05:07:36", "end": "05:07:41", "text": "all, the flight in the diary takes place"}, {"start": "05:07:38", "end": "05:07:43", "text": "in the North Pole. So, we're already off"}, {"start": "05:07:41", "end": "05:07:45", "text": "to a rocky start since Antarctica is as"}, {"start": "05:07:43", "end": "05:07:48", "text": "far south as you can get. And some of"}, {"start": "05:07:45", "end": "05:07:50", "text": "the log entries are almost identical to"}, {"start": "05:07:48", "end": "05:07:52", "text": "actual published log entries from the"}, {"start": "05:07:50", "end": "05:07:54", "text": "Admiral. The same types of instrument"}, {"start": "05:07:52", "end": "05:07:56", "text": "failures, engine issues show up in both"}, {"start": "05:07:54", "end": "05:07:58", "text": "places for some reason. Also, whole"}, {"start": "05:07:56", "end": "05:08:01", "text": "paragraphs of what the master said to"}, {"start": "05:07:58", "end": "05:08:04", "text": "Admiral Bird seem to be plagiarized from"}, {"start": "05:08:01", "end": "05:08:06", "text": "the 1937 film Lost Horizon, where the"}, {"start": "05:08:04", "end": "05:08:08", "text": "main character is talking to the Daly"}, {"start": "05:08:06", "end": "05:08:11", "text": "Lama, who issues the same kind of"}, {"start": "05:08:08", "end": "05:08:13", "text": "warning. In 1964, a book about the"}, {"start": "05:08:11", "end": "05:08:15", "text": "hollow earth was released by Walter"}, {"start": "05:08:13", "end": "05:08:17", "text": "Siemeister under the pen name Raymond"}, {"start": "05:08:15", "end": "05:08:19", "text": "Bernard. Admiral Bird is mentioned quite"}, {"start": "05:08:17", "end": "05:08:21", "text": "a bit in the book. Bernard went on to"}, {"start": "05:08:19", "end": "05:08:24", "text": "write lots of books about UFOs and"}, {"start": "05:08:21", "end": "05:08:26", "text": "Hollow Earth. And later, when Bird's"}, {"start": "05:08:24", "end": "05:08:29", "text": "Secret Diary appeared, guess who wrote"}, {"start": "05:08:26", "end": "05:08:31", "text": "the forward? Yep, Raymond Bernard. But"}, {"start": "05:08:29", "end": "05:08:33", "text": "the dead giveaway for me, the secret"}, {"start": "05:08:31", "end": "05:08:35", "text": "diary is full of exclamation points."}, {"start": "05:08:33", "end": "05:08:38", "text": "Like lots of them. If you read any of"}, {"start": "05:08:35", "end": "05:08:40", "text": "Bird's other logs, no matter how excited"}, {"start": "05:08:38", "end": "05:08:41", "text": "he gets, he doesn't write like he's"}, {"start": "05:08:40", "end": "05:08:44", "text": "posting on Reddit. He writes like a"}, {"start": "05:08:41", "end": "05:08:46", "text": "gentleman. So, what about the Nazis?"}, {"start": "05:08:44", "end": "05:08:48", "text": "Here's where it gets tricky. The"}, {"start": "05:08:46", "end": "05:08:51", "text": "Schwaban land did go to Antarctica in"}, {"start": "05:08:48", "end": "05:08:53", "text": "1938, but its mission was to secure new"}, {"start": "05:08:51", "end": "05:08:55", "text": "ports for whaling to supply Germany with"}, {"start": "05:08:53", "end": "05:08:57", "text": "its own whale oil for margarine."}, {"start": "05:08:55", "end": "05:08:59", "text": ">> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A Nazi"}, {"start": "05:08:57", "end": "05:09:00", "text": "mission to the South Pole for a"}, {"start": "05:08:59", "end": "05:09:03", "text": "delicious buttery spread."}, {"start": "05:09:00", "end": "05:09:06", "text": ">> Exactly. Germany wasn't at war yet, but"}, {"start": "05:09:03", "end": "05:09:08", "text": "Hitler was planning it. A lot of oil and"}, {"start": "05:09:06", "end": "05:09:09", "text": "fat-based products were imported. Hitler"}, {"start": "05:09:08", "end": "05:09:12", "text": "wanted to make sure that these"}, {"start": "05:09:09", "end": "05:09:14", "text": "industries could continue and his army"}, {"start": "05:09:12", "end": "05:09:16", "text": "could be fed in case foreign supplies"}, {"start": "05:09:14", "end": "05:09:19", "text": "were cut off. The Nazi mission did claim"}, {"start": "05:09:16", "end": "05:09:20", "text": "some land for Germany and it's widely"}, {"start": "05:09:19", "end": "05:09:22", "text": "thought that they did look for a"}, {"start": "05:09:20", "end": "05:09:24", "text": "location for a base and maybe even tried"}, {"start": "05:09:22", "end": "05:09:27", "text": "to build one, but no evidence of a base"}, {"start": "05:09:24", "end": "05:09:29", "text": "has been found. However, Nazi artifacts"}, {"start": "05:09:27", "end": "05:09:31", "text": "have been found in the Arctic in the"}, {"start": "05:09:29", "end": "05:09:33", "text": "north, which could be why this story"}, {"start": "05:09:31", "end": "05:09:34", "text": "continues to circulate, but so far"}, {"start": "05:09:33", "end": "05:09:36", "text": "nothing in the south."}, {"start": "05:09:34", "end": "05:09:38", "text": ">> Could be underground."}, {"start": "05:09:36", "end": "05:09:40", "text": ">> It could be. I'm not saying nothing's"}, {"start": "05:09:38", "end": "05:09:40", "text": "there. I'm just saying we haven't found"}, {"start": "05:09:40", "end": "05:09:42", "text": "it yet."}, {"start": "05:09:40", "end": "05:09:42", "text": ">> Well, they found it and aren't telling"}, {"start": "05:09:42", "end": "05:09:44", "text": "anybody."}, {"start": "05:09:42", "end": "05:09:46", "text": ">> Well, that's always a possibility. The"}, {"start": "05:09:44", "end": "05:09:49", "text": "US government did lie about the real"}, {"start": "05:09:46", "end": "05:09:51", "text": "purpose of Operation High Jump. And it's"}, {"start": "05:09:49", "end": "05:09:53", "text": "true Admiral Bird never spoke about it"}, {"start": "05:09:51", "end": "05:09:55", "text": "publicly except for those cryptic"}, {"start": "05:09:53", "end": "05:09:58", "text": "comments in the Chilean newspaper Elmer"}, {"start": "05:09:55", "end": "05:10:00", "text": "Mercurio. Elmer Curio is a real paper"}, {"start": "05:09:58", "end": "05:10:02", "text": "and Admiral Bird did give them an"}, {"start": "05:10:00", "end": "05:10:04", "text": "interview. Obviously the article was"}, {"start": "05:10:02", "end": "05:10:06", "text": "released in Spanish, but when it was"}, {"start": "05:10:04", "end": "05:10:08", "text": "translated back to English, his words"}, {"start": "05:10:06", "end": "05:10:09", "text": "were twisted around to make the story"}, {"start": "05:10:08", "end": "05:10:11", "text": "sound more dramatic."}, {"start": "05:10:09", "end": "05:10:12", "text": ">> Never let the facts get in the way of a"}, {"start": "05:10:11", "end": "05:10:14", "text": "good story."}, {"start": "05:10:12", "end": "05:10:16", "text": ">> Right. Bird never said there are ships"}, {"start": "05:10:14", "end": "05:10:19", "text": "that can fly poleto pole at tremendous"}, {"start": "05:10:16", "end": "05:10:22", "text": "speeds. He said the United States could"}, {"start": "05:10:19", "end": "05:10:24", "text": "be attacked by planes coming from the"}, {"start": "05:10:22", "end": "05:10:26", "text": "polls and it should be ready for that."}, {"start": "05:10:24", "end": "05:10:28", "text": "And Operation High Jump had a press"}, {"start": "05:10:26", "end": "05:10:30", "text": "contingent about a dozen reporters"}, {"start": "05:10:28", "end": "05:10:32", "text": "giving daily reports. There really"}, {"start": "05:10:30", "end": "05:10:35", "text": "wasn't much going on. So rather than"}, {"start": "05:10:32", "end": "05:10:37", "text": "send back a three-word story, lots of"}, {"start": "05:10:35", "end": "05:10:40", "text": "ice, the reporters added their own"}, {"start": "05:10:37", "end": "05:10:42", "text": "flare. For example, Bird did find a"}, {"start": "05:10:40", "end": "05:10:44", "text": "small lake that had uniquely warm"}, {"start": "05:10:42", "end": "05:10:47", "text": "temperatures with algae growing in it,"}, {"start": "05:10:44", "end": "05:10:49", "text": "but it was reported as a land of blue"}, {"start": "05:10:47", "end": "05:10:51", "text": "and green lakes and brown hills in an"}, {"start": "05:10:49", "end": "05:10:53", "text": "otherwise limitless expanse of ice"}, {"start": "05:10:51", "end": "05:10:56", "text": ">> and a UFO attack."}, {"start": "05:10:53", "end": "05:10:58", "text": ">> Right in 1991, after the collapse of the"}, {"start": "05:10:56", "end": "05:11:00", "text": "Soviet Union, millions of secret"}, {"start": "05:10:58", "end": "05:11:03", "text": "documents were released. And one of"}, {"start": "05:11:00", "end": "05:11:06", "text": "those written in 1947 was a description"}, {"start": "05:11:03", "end": "05:11:08", "text": "of Operation High Jump. And in 2006, a"}, {"start": "05:11:06", "end": "05:11:10", "text": "Russian documentary was released based"}, {"start": "05:11:08", "end": "05:11:12", "text": "on that secret intelligence report. The"}, {"start": "05:11:10", "end": "05:11:15", "text": "Soviets did believe that Operation High"}, {"start": "05:11:12", "end": "05:11:17", "text": "Jump was a mission to find and destroy a"}, {"start": "05:11:15", "end": "05:11:19", "text": "Nazi base. And look, with all that"}, {"start": "05:11:17", "end": "05:11:21", "text": "firepower, I don't think that's a"}, {"start": "05:11:19", "end": "05:11:23", "text": "stretch. The reports of the battle with"}, {"start": "05:11:21", "end": "05:11:25", "text": "UFOs comes from the Soviet documents."}, {"start": "05:11:23", "end": "05:11:27", "text": "But it's iffy on the facts, and they got"}, {"start": "05:11:25", "end": "05:11:29", "text": "some of the names of the ships wrong,"}, {"start": "05:11:27", "end": "05:11:32", "text": "but they did get some right. And the US"}, {"start": "05:11:29", "end": "05:11:34", "text": "military has a history of changing a"}, {"start": "05:11:32", "end": "05:11:36", "text": "ship's name and rewriting the ship's"}, {"start": "05:11:34", "end": "05:11:37", "text": "story if it serves Navy policy."}, {"start": "05:11:36", "end": "05:11:40", "text": ">> Propaganda"}, {"start": "05:11:37", "end": "05:11:41", "text": ">> always. The Soviet report said that UFOs"}, {"start": "05:11:40", "end": "05:11:43", "text": "weren't trying to destroy the American"}, {"start": "05:11:41", "end": "05:11:45", "text": "ships, which they easily could have"}, {"start": "05:11:43", "end": "05:11:48", "text": "done. They just wanted the ships to turn"}, {"start": "05:11:45", "end": "05:11:50", "text": "back. The mission was cut way short. The"}, {"start": "05:11:48", "end": "05:11:52", "text": "official reason for that is weather. But"}, {"start": "05:11:50", "end": "05:11:54", "text": "that's a lot of resources wasted because"}, {"start": "05:11:52", "end": "05:11:56", "text": "of weather. Were there really UFOs"}, {"start": "05:11:54", "end": "05:11:58", "text": "protecting something down there? or is"}, {"start": "05:11:56", "end": "05:12:01", "text": "this disinformation deliberately leaked"}, {"start": "05:11:58", "end": "05:12:03", "text": "to the Soviets by US intelligence? I"}, {"start": "05:12:01", "end": "05:12:05", "text": "don't know. I've debunked as much as I"}, {"start": "05:12:03", "end": "05:12:08", "text": "can for you. Even though a lot of this"}, {"start": "05:12:05", "end": "05:12:10", "text": "story is false, not all of it is. And it"}, {"start": "05:12:08", "end": "05:12:12", "text": "seems as the only way we'll get answers"}, {"start": "05:12:10", "end": "05:12:14", "text": "is to go to Antarctica. But if there's"}, {"start": "05:12:12", "end": "05:12:16", "text": "one thing that every government in the"}, {"start": "05:12:14", "end": "05:12:19", "text": "world agrees on, it's that whatever is"}, {"start": "05:12:16", "end": "05:12:20", "text": "down there needs to stay there. But I'll"}, {"start": "05:12:19", "end": "05:12:22", "text": "leave you with these final thoughts."}, {"start": "05:12:20", "end": "05:12:25", "text": "Just a few months after Operation High"}, {"start": "05:12:22", "end": "05:12:28", "text": "Jump, a UFO allegedly crashed in"}, {"start": "05:12:25", "end": "05:12:30", "text": "Roswell, New Mexico. The location of the"}, {"start": "05:12:28", "end": "05:12:33", "text": "crash is only a few miles from the"}, {"start": "05:12:30", "end": "05:12:35", "text": "world's first nuclear explosion. And"}, {"start": "05:12:33", "end": "05:12:38", "text": "Admiral Bird did go missing for 3 hours"}, {"start": "05:12:35", "end": "05:12:41", "text": "and arrived back at camp 3 hours late."}, {"start": "05:12:38", "end": "05:12:46", "text": "He was in a small short range airplane."}, {"start": "05:12:41", "end": "05:12:46", "text": "So why didn't he run out of fuel?"}, {"start": "05:12:47", "end": "05:12:51", "text": "Thank you for checking out a Wi-Fi"}, {"start": "05:12:49", "end": "05:12:52", "text": "compilation. My name is AJ. That's"}, {"start": "05:12:51", "end": "05:12:56", "text": "Morgan."}, {"start": "05:12:52", "end": "05:12:57", "text": ">> My name is Morgan. 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It pays for"}, {"start": "05:18:29", "end": "05:18:33", "text": "itself. And if you want to cancel,"}, {"start": "05:18:31", "end": "05:18:35", "text": "that's totally fine. Um, that's not a"}, {"start": "05:18:33", "end": "05:18:38", "text": "profit center. In fact, all that money"}, {"start": "05:18:35", "end": "05:18:39", "text": "goes to the team. So, that's just"}, {"start": "05:18:38", "end": "05:18:42", "text": "something I wanted to put out there as a"}, {"start": "05:18:39", "end": "05:18:43", "text": "value ad so you could save money."}, {"start": "05:18:42", "end": "05:18:45", "text": ">> Yeah. keep that secret close to your old"}, {"start": "05:18:43", "end": "05:18:48", "text": "dorsal fin. Eh,"}, {"start": "05:18:45", "end": "05:18:49", "text": ">> as you know, or maybe you don't, the um"}, {"start": "05:18:48", "end": "05:18:51", "text": "the merch in the Wow store is not"}, {"start": "05:18:49", "end": "05:18:53", "text": "expensive. 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Happy birthday dear human."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Happy birthday to you and many more."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "I played in 51. A secret code inside the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "I look like UFOs and paran."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "becomes the truth, my friends."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "And it never ends. I know it never ends."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "I feel the crab. 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A secret code inside"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "I look like UFOs in the paranor"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "becomes the truth my friends"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "and it never ends. I know it never ends."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "I be the crap guy. I got stuck inside"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "home with MK out of being only true."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Did Stanley face the moon alone on a"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "film set"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "Wednesday"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "All I ever wanted to see"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Hecklefish doesn't respond to the CIA."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Ah, hello human. It's me, Morgan. I am a"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "beaver. I hope you're enjoying the 24/7"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "stream. How about a quick studio tour?"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "Come on, follow me."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "Hey, Gertie. How they humping?"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Hey, boys. Hold the work. We have"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "guests."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "Check it out. This is where the human"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "and hecklefish do the show. Pretty cool,"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "huh?"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "That's better. Hang on a sec. Can I get"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "a coffee, please? So hard to find good"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "help, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "Okay. Hey, where were we?"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": ">> Hang on. There's something wrong with"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "the prompter. What does that mean? Play"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "us out. Play us out? I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "that means. Play us out. Forget it."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "We'll do it live. I'll write it myself"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "and we'll do it live. The whole thing"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "stinks."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": ">> One day, a drunk ice fisherman drilled a"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "hole in the ice and looked into the"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "hole. A loud voice from above said,"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "\"THERE ARE NO FISH down there.\" He"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "walked several yards away and drilled"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "another hole and peered into the hole"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "again. And a voice said, \"There's no"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "fish down there.\" He then walked about"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "50 yards away, drilled another hole. And"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "again, the voice said, \"I'M TELLING YOU,"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "THERE'S NO FISH DOWN THERE.\" HE looked"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "up to the sky and said, \"God, is that"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "you?\" The voice said, \"No, you idiot."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "I'm the rink manager.\""}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "I love that. It's a good one."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "But it's different from the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "thunder. Others in the area report"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "similar phenomena."}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": ">> Whoa, wait, wait. What's that word?"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": ">> What? Phenomena."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": ">> Phenomena."}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": ">> Phenomena."}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "And you may continue."}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "3 2 1 zero. All engine running."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "This one goes out to the first fish in"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "space."}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "Ground control to major tum."}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "Ground control to major time."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "Take your protein pills and put your"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "helmet on."}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "Ground control to major t."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "Commencing countdown. Engine"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "3."}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:45", "text": ">> Check ignition. And may God's love be"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "with you."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": ">> Here we go, baby. To the moon."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "This is ground control."}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "And the papers want to know who you"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "wear."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "Now it's time to leave the caps you"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "dare."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "This is major"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "ground control."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "I'm stepping through the door"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "and I'm floating in the most peculiar"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "And the stars look very different today."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "For here"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "am I sitting in a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "far"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "above the world"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "planet earth is blue and there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "I can"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "Doop."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "This is heckle vish at the pork chop"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "express and I'm talking to whoever's"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "listening out there. It's like I told my"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "last wife. I says, \"Honey, I never drive"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "faster than I can see. Besides that,"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "it's all in the reflexes.\""}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "You just listen to the pork chop express"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "and take his advice on a dark and stormy"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "night. All right. When some wildeyed 8-"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "foot tall maniac grabs your neck, taps"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "the back of your favorite head up"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "against the barroom wall, and he looks"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "you crooked in the eye, and he asks you,"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "\"Have you paid your dues?\" Well, you"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "just stare that big sucker back in the"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "eye, and remember what old hecklefish"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "always says at a time like that. Have"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "you paid your dues, Fish? Yes, sir. The"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "check is in the mail."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "Well, you see, I'm not saying that I've"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "been everywhere and I've done"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "everything, but I do know it's a pretty"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "amazing planet we live on here. And a"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "man would have to be some kind of fool"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "to think we're all alone in this"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "universe"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "and the airport was buzzing. These were"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "the days before a full body scanner."}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "Remove your laptops, tablets, and place"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "them in their own dirty plastic tray"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "that's still wet from the last guy for"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "some reason."}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:49", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": ">> Take off your belt, your shoes, and"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "remove any lotions, creams, and gels,"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "and place your personal items in another"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "dirty plastic tray. If there are no"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "trays available, please fight over them"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "as we at the TSA take bets to see how"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "angry we can make you. If you become"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "violent in 3 minutes or less, I win 20"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "bucks. Step forward and have your rights"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "completely trampled by an angry"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "middle-aged man in a blue shirt. Once"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "you step through our X-ray machine that"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "may or may not cause cancer, we may"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "decide to put on plastic gloves and"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "fondle you in front of a group of"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "strangers. This is what we in the TSA"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "call the cherry on top."}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": ">> You good?"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": ">> I've been wanting to get that off my"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "chest for a long time."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "And around the circle, sprinkle various"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "substances like salt and herbs. And for"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "especially evil demons, an animal like a"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "goat or a chicken would have to be"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "sacrificed."}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": ">> Salt and herbs on a dead chicken. That"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "doesn't sound like a ritual. IT SOUNDS"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "LIKE A DELICIOUS RECIPE."}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": ">> You're killing me, pal."}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": ">> Well, I'm sorry. I skipped lunch and you"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "tell me exorcisms use 11 herbs and"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "spices on chicken. What do you expect?"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "By the way, you and Colonel Sanders make"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "demons sound fingerlicking good."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": ">> That was not my intention. Now I know"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "what a chicken's so addicting. It's"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "seasoned with evil."}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:08", "text": ">> If you just let me get through this,"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "we'll grab lunch."}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": ">> Chicken bucket from KFC."}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": ">> Is that even a question at this point?"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:27", "text": ">> My little butter cup has the sweetest"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "smile."}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "Dear little buttercup, won't you stay a"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "while?"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "Come with me where moon beams paint the"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "sky."}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "And you and I might linger in the sweet"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "by and by. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "dear little butter cup with your eyes so"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "blue."}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "Oh little buttercup, you're a dream come"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "true."}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "You and I will settle down in a cottage"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "built for two. Oh dear little butter"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "cup, I love you."}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "Everybody, my little buttercup has the"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "sweetest."}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "Dear little buttercup, won't you stay"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "up?"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "You need a job? You and I will settle"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "down in a cottage built for two."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "Dear little butter cup, sweet little"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "butter cup,"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:51", "text": ">> my little butter cup. I love you."}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:54", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": ">> Sometimes the differences between"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "universes are small. Like there's a"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "reality where maybe I have a different"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "set"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "or a different sidekick."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. What are we talking"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "about today? Belle's hole. I love Mel's"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "hole. If I had my way, we'd get into"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "Belle's hole every day."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": ">> Well, that was weird. Hey, is there a"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "reality where I'm the host of the show"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "and you're the sidekick?"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": ">> Today we're going deep inside Mel's"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "hole."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": ">> Do we have to keep making that joke?"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "It's It's getting a little stale, don't"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "you think?"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": ">> Shut up, human. I'm the host of this"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "show. You hear me? Me? Me? Be quiet or"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "I'll turn off your oxygen. I'LL TELL YOU"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> YEAH."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": ">> SILENCE."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": ">> OH, I like that one."}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "Born into a devoutly Catholic family,"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "Anelise Michelle had a normal childhood."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": ">> Uh, what kind of name is Anal Ease?"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:53", "text": ">> Analise."}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": ">> What I say?"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": ">> She was children's game from the UK"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "called Tiggy Touchwood, which is"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "essentially a game of tag."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": ">> Now what?"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> Touchwood."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": ">> Don't be an infant."}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "burst."}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": ">> So, if these other universes exist, can"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "we visit them? I'd like to go to that"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "universe where I'm the host of the show."}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": ">> You promise to behave, then I'll turn"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "your oxygen back on. Promise."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> I promise. Promise."}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:34", "text": ">> Good human. Now, tell me, who's the"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "boss? Who's the boss?"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": ">> Tony Danza."}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "Oh, you think that's funny, huh? What if"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "I put helium down your tube instead?"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "Huh?"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:46", "text": ">> I'm begging you. Oh, no. Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": ">> Oh, really? Really? Does Does this make"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "you happy? Does this make you feel good?"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": ">> It kind of does, actually."}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": ">> Some say this was how the count was able"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "to talk his way out of the English"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "prison."}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:58", "text": ">> Should I mind trick?"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:00", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:01", "text": ">> I'm not the count you're looking for."}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:02", "text": ">> You're not the count we're looking for."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:03", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:03", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:06", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:11", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "Crossover children, all are welcome. All"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "welcome. Go into the light."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> No, YOU SAID DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT."}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> There is peace and serenity."}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:25", "text": ">> You good?"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:26", "text": ">> I didn't get it."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:27", "text": ">> Don't you hate that?"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": ">> You're untight."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": ">> Think of a nightclub or a concert where"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "you could just you could feel the bass."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:47", "text": ">> ALICAS"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:48", "text": ">> CRAP."}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:50", "text": ">> Fear the crab cat."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. Fear the crab cat."}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": ">> Okay, I won. Now we get to do the bit."}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": ">> I I really I really don't want to do it."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": ">> We had a deal. Fangi rule of acquisition"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "16 says"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:02", "text": ">> a deal is a deal. I know. You don't have"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "to quote the rules of acquisition for"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "me. Grab your sweater. It's showtime."}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> Crap."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:13", "text": ">> Oh, are you the new butler human?"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:14", "text": ">> It's been a long time since I've been"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "the new anything."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": ">> Oh, I'm Hecklefish. I live down the"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "road. Oh, you're the human from America."}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": ">> News sure travels fast, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:23", "text": ">> Pleased to meet you. Oh, you're the one"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "that sings, right?"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": ">> Well, right or wrong. I look, I don't"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "want to do this. I feel stupid. This"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "sweater is ridiculous."}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> A deal is a deal. Do it. Fine."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:35", "text": ">> Oh, by the way, those sweaters are"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "available in the Wi-Fi store."}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": ">> Are we plugging merch or doing this"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "stupid bit?"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Hang on. Hang on."}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "Where are we? Uh, okay. Got got it. Got"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "it. Oh, you're the one that sings,"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": ">> Well, right or wrong, I sing anyway."}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:50", "text": ">> I sing, too."}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": ">> Oh, good. What kind of singing?"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": ">> Uh, mostly contemporary stuff. Uh, do"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "you like modern music?"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": ">> Oh, I think it's marvelous. Some of it"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "really, really fine. But tell me, do you"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "ever listen to any of the older fellas?"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Oh, sure. I like David Bowie and uh"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "Bananaama."}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": ">> Oo, you go back that far, huh?"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:11", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm not as young as I look, eh?"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> Well, none of us is these days."}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:14", "text": ">> Yeah. In fact, I have a six-year-old"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "guppy. Look at this here. This song is"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "my guppy's favorite. You know this one?"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> Oh, I do indeed. It's a lovely thing."}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "Come. They told me"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "a newborn thing to see. Power bum."}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "The finest gifts we bring. A rubber bum"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "bum rubber bum bum rubber bum bum."}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:05", "text": ">> Peace on earth."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:11", "text": ">> Can it be"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "from now? Perhaps we'll see."}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:17", "text": ">> See the day of glory."}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "See the day when fish of good will live"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "in peace. Live in peace again."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": ">> Can it be?"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "Every must be made aware."}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "Every Gabby must be made to care"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "enough for his fellow"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "man to give all the love a daddy."}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "I pray my wish"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": ">> will come true."}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "I"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:17", "text": ">> for"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "yours too."}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:23", "text": ">> You'll see the day of glory."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:35", "text": ">> See the day when fish of good will live"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "in peace. Live in peace again."}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "Can it be?"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "Can it be?"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": ">> It's pretty thing, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:57", "text": ">> Merry Christmas everybody."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "I play a scenario."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "51. A secret code inside the Bible said"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "I would."}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranor."}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "And it never ends."}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "I feel the crab stuck inside"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "of being only aware"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "the moon alone"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "would shadow people"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "smiling man I'm"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "and his name was"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "fish on Thursday night"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "through the night"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "through the night."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "The Midn"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "got the secret city underground."}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "Mysterious number station."}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "What the"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "foundanc"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "of Weapons all through the night."}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "Thursday night."}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "loves to dance."}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "the dance floor because she is a camel"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "and came to dance"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "Thank you for watching the After Files"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "live stream. This is not a professional"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "production. We don't know why anyone"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "watches this thing, but we're glad you"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "do. And now to kick off the show is"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "everyone's favorite sidekick, the one,"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "the only Hecklefish."}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "Your dreams were your ticket out."}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "Welcome back to that same old place that"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "you laughed about."}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "Well, the names have changed since you"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "hung around, but those dreams have"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "remained and they turn around."}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "Who thought they lead you?"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": ">> Who thought they"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "need you?"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:06", "text": ">> Here where we need you. We teach him a"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "lot cuz we got a spot."}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "on the spot. Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "Welcome back."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "back."}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "All right, hang on. I Here's what"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "happens. I'm in vake. You guys can hear"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "me, right?"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "Thank goodness I have the second camera."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Um, so in Vegas, every time you touch"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "anything, you just you get shocked to"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "the point of pain and welts."}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "But what electronics don't like that? I"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "mean, I don't I'm not a huge fan either."}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "So, I forgot to ground myself before I"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "touched the camera. I touched the camera"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "that's what happened. You see the moment"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "I touched the So, I'm going to try and"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "see if I can fix it. So, hang on."}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "Hang on. Where is it? Down there. Oh"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "boy."}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "All right. All right. Hang on. There we"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "go. At first, I didn't think that was"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "going to work. So,"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "you can see me, right? See me? Hear me?"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": ">> You think this passes for a live stream?"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "Think again."}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "It hurts my feelings. Hey, merry"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "Christmas everybody."}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "Ho ho ho. Who's here?"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "Uh, Al Pacino, you can hear. Good."}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "Malikica is here. Lucky Stone, DJK,"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "Timothy, good to see you. Sleeping with"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "Cabrella 69. Giggity is here. Ken the"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "band. John Kurt, Sloopy, good to see"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "you. Sloopy 420. Keeping it cloudy with"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "a little blurp. Passion vin vin tea. P."}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "Oh, passion vine tea. Okay, you were you"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "were fine and then you watch this. The"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "intro is so crazy, right? And look, I"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "saw people saying like, \"Oh my god, the"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "spinning and my vertigo.\" Totally get"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "it. It was totally intentional. I wanted"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "it to be chaotic. And I just noticed"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "during one of those spins, my nose is"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "just stuck in the my giant. I almost"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "said guinea, but you can't. It's I guess"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "that's a slur. My big old guinea"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "was uh in the shot. Did you see that?"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "The old schnazi. You guys remember Jimmy"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "Duranti? Perfect. Remember Frosty the"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "Snowman? Was that the like the perfect"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "Christmas show as a kid? Frosty the"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "Snowman was a jolly happy soul. You guys"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "remember that, right?"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "You guys are too young to remember that."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "Me and Gene is here. Good to see you."}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "Ghost cal ghost call paranormal. That"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "sounds like you might have a cool"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "channel. Nixit knows what I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "about. Cha cha."}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "All right, let's see who can get it"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "first. Good night, Mrs. Blank wherever"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "you are. See who can get that one first."}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "It's gonna need to be an old-timer like"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "me. Merry Christmas, the Enclave and"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "Jacob. Laura Rollins, good to see you."}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "Kenny Parks,"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "thanks Mr. Jesus Moreno or Jesus."}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "Purple Pineberries from Switzerland."}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "Good to see you. Uh, Burl lives very"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "very he's he's classic."}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "Crimson mut is new here. Why the orange"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "glasses? So, it's not a fashion"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "statement. It's um"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "the orange have blue blockers and a tint"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "because I have these really bright"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "lights in my face. Plus, because I'm"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "old, they they have magnification so I"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "can read the chat and not have to"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "squint. If you look at the like the"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "first few after files before I figured"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "this out, it's a lot of this, which is"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "this is, you know, this is not a"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "professional operation. So, I guess this"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "is fine."}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "But, uh, but that's why um, if you want"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "to buy these, if you go on our"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "subreddit, we have a link to the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "link. It's not a I'm not endorsing it."}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "I'm just saying some people want them."}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "So, they're good for um if you do a lot"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "of coding and you spend a lot of time in"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "front of the screen, these actually will"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "make your eyes is just much better for"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "your eyes, the blue blockers."}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "So, that's why crimson m is so I could"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "see. Oh, I see. Mrs. Mrs. Calabash was"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "green tea got it. Were you first?"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "I don't I think Oh, no. Wolf Kinder got"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "Were you first, Wolf? Alph Pacino got"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "it. Was Alf first? Gracie Beard got it."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "I'm scrolling back. Islander draws"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "first. Going."}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "Going."}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "Clark got it. Going back. Oh my"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "goodness. I can't believe anybody got"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "it. Glitters Forever first. Going back."}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "WT Gardener first. Going back."}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "Where? I think uh Koga almost with"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "Callaway almost"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "uh Geoduck Envy. Good night Miss Galesh"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "wherever you are is correct. Anyone"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "else?"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "I'm going. Wow. A lot of people got it."}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "Bubba Doom 1837 first. J Tiger first."}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "Going"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "Jeffrey Party first. Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "really during the stream."}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "18B actual first, Carlos Dog at first."}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "I'm going to get there. Nick, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "think anyone was going to get this. Nick"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "R was first."}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "Uh, is it Nick R?"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "Is it Nick R?"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "Michael Wing Calabash. Is it Michael?"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "All right, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "have have to wrap up the scrolling in a"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "second because it looks like everybody"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "got it. I think it's Michael because"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "well, I can't scroll any further than"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "that. So, it's M. If somebody beat"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "Michael, I'm sorry, but it's as far as I"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "can scroll. So, Michael Michael got it"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "first. All right. What did I miss?"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "if you um um um um um"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "so I'm I'll try and read all super chats"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "today because I I'm going to stream I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "going to go try and go four or five"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "hours if I can"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "get really hungry."}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "It's uh Jenny's making spaghetti and"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "meatballs for the whole crew. So it's"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "probably just going to be me on the"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "stream because everybody else who comes"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "on here is going to be in my kitchen"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "eating."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "So, spaghetti and meatballs, which is"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "always a point of contention for my wife"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "and I cuz she's very proud of her"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "spaghetti and meatballs. It's a family"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "recipe,"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "but you know, she's from Kansas City."}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "I'm from the Bronx. And my sauce, or as"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "we call it, gravy is just"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "and meatballs"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "recipe. I just"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "it's so good. So, we have a little bit"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "of a I was going to say friendly"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "competition, but it's not friendly at"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "all. We have fights about it cuz when"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "she said last night, \"I'm going to make"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "spaghetti meatballs.\" I went, \"Oh boy.\""}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "She went, \"Oh.\" Again, again with this."}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "So earlier, dinner is going to be like"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "2:00 or so. So around 10:30 this"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "morning, I said, \"What are you doing?"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "It's you got 4 hours"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "till dinner. They got to get the sauce"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "on.\" She's like, \"Oh, the sauce. It's"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "just going to take me like an hour.\" I"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "was like, \"Oh, Maron me. Gravy takes"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "eight hours."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "Stir and stir. You put the water in. You"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "stir. You put the water in. You put the"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "stir. You put the water in. Takes eight"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "hours. I don't know how you make a gravy"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "in in an hour and a half. Nope."}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "Nope. Everyone gifting memberships is"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "very kind of you. Very, very nice of you"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "guys to do that."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "I hope everybody who got their W house"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "merch got it in time. We worked very"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "hard to get that stuff out."}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "Eric and Yana came in late, worked"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "weekends, came in early, and tried to"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "get everything out for you guys. And I"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "forget what the cuto off day was, but I"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "but I think we got stuff out as early as"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "the as late as the 22nd. So, I hope it"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "arrived."}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "Um, aside from the shirts"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "and you like the sweatshirts and the"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "clothing, that's print on demand, so we"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "don't have a lot of control over how"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "long that stuff takes, but usually just"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "takes a couple of days. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "when I order a shirt and I order from"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "the store, I kind of like secret shop to"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "see how it works just to check in. And"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "the last sweatshirt I ordered was a"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "couple of weeks ago, it only took like 3"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "days to get here. So, it wasn't bad. But"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "the other stuff like the plushies and"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "challenge coins and all that, all the"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "jazz we that ships right from the"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "studio. So, order comes in and goes out"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "the next day. So, I hope you're able to"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "get your your gifts in."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "Um, so what I was saying was I'll try to"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "read all the super chats. I'm sorry if I"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "can't, but when I'm starting to wrap it"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "up and they start to stack up and I can"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "see I'm not going to have enough time,"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "I'll do a last call so you don't spend"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "money and then get annoyed like, \"Oh, I"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "said five bucks and didn't read my"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "thing.\" But if you tag me in the main"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "chat, which I always have in front of"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "me, I will usually I'll as long as it"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "doesn't zip by too fast, I'll see it and"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "I'll be happy to answer it. So you don't"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "have to spend any money to do that."}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "Uh, we have a few people that are"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "cattle. AJ, your bar is straight from"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "Firefly. That's a great compliment,"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "but I don't remember I don't remember"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "the bar in Firefly."}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "Unless you I mean, you're talking about"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "the one in in Serenity,"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "the great fight scene. That's the one of"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "the best Cory R fight scene fight scenes"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "in in sci-fi."}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "Is that what you're talking about?"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "Otherwise, it's just Jen built that by"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "the Well, Jen designed it and uh and my"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "buddy Joe who works for the channel"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "built it. They did a great job."}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "Uh, merry Christmas to you, Zequit."}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "Merry Christmas to you."}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "I see we have a couple of folks who are"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "alone this year."}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "Feel free to speak up if you want a"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "little support. You don't have to."}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "You just want to make sure that you that"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "you're feeling okay. That's why I"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "started doing this. Um I think this is"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "my fourth one in a row. Might be the"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "fourth one."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "I because this is 25, right?"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "It might be third. I started doing them"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "cuz dad passed away and uh he passed"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "away in February. So it wasn't like he"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "passed away right at Christmas. But I"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "remember it was the first Christmas"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "without dad"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "is sucks."}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "Sucks because the last time I talked to"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "him before I passed away which was see"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "passed away in fe in February. So it was"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "you know maybe a couple of weeks before"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "that. I remember him crying on the phone"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "and my dad never cried cry on the phone"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "like I don't think I'm going to make it"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "to Christmas. I was like you're going to"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "be fine pop. We'll get another one in"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "there. You're going to be fine. Didn't"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "make it."}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "And it got me thinking that"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "sometimes Christmases when you lose"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "somebody or things aren't going well or"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "just the year sucked,"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "all the pressure of the holidays just"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "makes it worse. It really does. It makes"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "it just so much worse cuz like this"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "morning I'm texting with mom and we're"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "doing all the things and I stopped"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "texting with mom and then my and my"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "instinct still these years later was I"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "got to call dad and and you have that it"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "gets easier but you still it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "shake that. It's you know it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "it's hard to shake that. So that's why I"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "do this as uh keep everybody company."}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "Hopefully we'll have a few laughs. It"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "won't get too I won't get too dark dark"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "or deep."}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Am I quoting Robert Frost accidentally?"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "There's people in the chat who who are"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "going to say yes. I think it's stopping"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "by woods on a snowy evening."}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "That's what I'm going to do. That's what"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "I'm going to do for this live stream."}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "I'm just I'm going to recite poetry"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "because everybody loves poetry. Um"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "the woods are lovely, dark, and deep,"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "but I have promises to keep. I I for you"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "know you know which one how you know how"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "it goes."}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "Small guard says it's been a rough year."}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "Not sure 2026 is going to be better. You"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "got to change your mindset if you can. I"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "you know I don't know why it was a bad"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "year. So maybe it maybe 26 is going to"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "continue continue to suck but try and"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "change your mindset because a lot of it"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "is mindset. you know, when you uh"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "when you think things are going to go"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "bad"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "there's a good chance they will. You"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "know, I don't know if you believe in the"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "universe or manifestation or any of that"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "stuff. I kind of do a little bit, but a"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "lot of it is just mindset. And"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "rather and if you can't get yourself in"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "a positive mindset, like positive like"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "no matter what it's going to be great,"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "you could do what I do because I'm not"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "really I'm not really positive like"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "that. I'm not I'm not perky positive."}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "Instead, I convert it kind of to anger"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "and in sort of indignant anger like I'm"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "gonna kick 2026 ass. 25 kicked my ass,"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "but now it's my turn to kick ass. So,"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "you could try that, but try to just look"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "for the ways to make it a little better."}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "Make it a little easier. Smallgar, hang"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "in there."}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "Send miles to go before I sleep. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "think that was a song about death. A"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "song. A poem about death."}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "I had a lot of those."}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "Charlie girl Charlie Charlie girl is"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "late getting on here. Happy holidays to"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "each of you. Everyone very special. Stay"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "awesome, my friends. Thank you for that."}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "Snaggy said, \"My mother called the"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "police on me today for Christmas."}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "She's mistakes not wanting to talk to"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "her for suicidal tendencies.\" So, that"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "was fun. Oof. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "hear that. Oof. I don't mean to laugh,"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "but that wasn't a laugh like laughing at"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "you. That was like I can't believe"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "that's insane situation."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "Uh Sarah McCoy Feliz Naval, the same to"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "you, my friend. You're welcome for doing"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "these. Oh, Potty Mouth Panda. Why"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "different? Why not just be Sarah? Why be"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "Why be potty?"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "Now I know what to call you. She's a"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "Patreon member. Jumps up on the streams."}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "You guys are all Patreon members, right?"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "I mean, if you're going to super chat 20"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "bucks, join Patreon instead. You'll get"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "like six or seven months out of it. And"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "then these live streams, I do these all"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "the time for Patreon members. And"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "instead of 5,000 people in the scroll"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "going crazy, there's like 80 hundred of"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "us in there. And you can you can put"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "your camera on. So, Potty was up there"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "last week"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "talking about stuff."}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "Not Lauren. Patreon is awesome. Not"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "Lauren. Very supportive."}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "Uh, is it me or is American politics"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "looking like an insane asylum? It is,"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "but it's always been that way. Uh, you"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "know, we always tend to look at at at"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "things, especially politics, through the"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "lens of of of our lives because we're so"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "self self-centered."}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "But if you go back and look at the feud"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "between Jefferson and John Adams, they"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "hated each other at first. They"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "reconciled later. Died on the same day."}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "They hated each other. They did smear"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "campaigns against each other. Jefferson"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "apparently was an ass. John Adams also"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "not very popular."}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "So, uh, it was it was just as vicious."}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "So, and and and Lincoln like the Lincoln"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "Douglas debates and all of that vicious"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "because Lincoln was very hated and very"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "loved."}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "Uh, merry Christmas to you,"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "Doug Snyder joined. Very nice."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "The chat it they changed the interface a"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "little bit. So, I'm a little bit"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "confused."}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "I'm good. Uh, Cher makes a good point."}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "Plus, YouTube takes a lot of the super"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "chat money. It takes about half and then"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "they then they take the taxes out for"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "you as as you know, they do you a solid"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "and also do the withholding."}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "So, $5 super chat about about two bucks"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "comes our way, a little bit less, but"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "Patreon takes they still take a chunk,"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "but I think they take 5%. Five or six."}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "Patreon's kind of annoying because the"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "more members you have, the bigger the"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "percent they take. So, what's that"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "about?"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "Thank you, Judy. She loves the stories."}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "We appreciate that,"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "Nick. This has been worse. Maybe,"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "maybe"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "it might be worse. It's not uh I just"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "try not to look at it that way because"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "you you'll get angry and uh it doesn't"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "serve any purpose. You know, we're stuck"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "with the stupid two-party system which"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "is and and I think it feels bad if it's"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "making us angry and it feels very"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "strenuous because I feel like the party"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "system is breaking down. Not the parties"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "themselves, but what each party believes"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "is it's getting kind of murky. Now, I"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "like that because, as you know, I'm not"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "a party guy. I have beliefs that fit in"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "both sides and some that don't believe"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "in any. You know, I'm I'm very"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "libertarian, very do your own thing. No"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "judge."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "And uh you know, I'm seeing both the"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "Republicans and Democrats have the views"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "are shifting."}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "So, I think that's good, but it's going"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "to be chaotic until things settle."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "Merry Christmas to you, Ron Trines."}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "All right, we got we got a couple of"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "super chats in here. We always save"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "quantum for first. Oh, hang on. I got to"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "make that I got to make that I can't"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "read that."}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "Oh, once you hit 40,"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "you just you just can't see. And we're"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "all pretty much all Gen Xers on the W"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "files team. Yeah, we have a couple of"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "youngsters, but we're all kind of Gen"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "Xers. So, there are cheap readers on"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "every table, every surface. Hang on a"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "second. What is this? We have a"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:54", "text": ">> just wanted to come say hi."}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:54", "text": ">> You have a surprise guest"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "there."}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:57", "text": ">> Everybody."}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:57", "text": ">> Oh, is it time for my prostate exam?"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:02", "text": ">> Oh, the pink gloves are my favorite."}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:04", "text": ">> No, I'm making meatballs."}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "Come back here."}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "Uh, I already got into the meatball"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "situation about how you do the best you"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "can."}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> That's so rude. See, I told you."}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> Merry Christmas, everybody."}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:23", "text": ">> Uh, they're not branded, these glasses."}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "Real rock. They're just they're just uh"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "blue blockers with magnification so I"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "can see. Mary saying, \"Merry Christmas"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "to Jen.\""}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:32", "text": ">> Merry Christmas."}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:35", "text": ">> There's Jules. Merry Christmas. Melissa"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "Taylor's there."}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "Uh, Victoria's How Why is Victoria"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "modding the chat? Isn't she supposed to"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "be"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:43", "text": ">> Yeah, Victoria, shouldn't you be on the"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "road by now? Shouldn't you be on the"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "road by now?"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:51", "text": ">> Dizzy. She's beautiful, isn't she?"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:52", "text": ">> A Thank you."}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:55", "text": ">> Look, and don't forget I landed her"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "before the channel got successful,"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "which wasn't easy."}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": ">> Somebody asked, \"How proud am I of my"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "husband? I I can't even."}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": ">> She can't believe it because she doesn't"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "really watch the show.\" Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "we could be honest. It's not really your"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": ">> Used to watch every episode. I made her"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "watch a lot of them though."}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:17", "text": ">> Well, no. I mean, I was way more"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "involved in the day-to-day production,"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "so I watched a lot of the episodes, most"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "of them in the beginning. Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "but a lot of them just aren't my thing."}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "And that's okay."}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:30", "text": ">> And that's okay because the stuff that"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "she watches isn't our thing,"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:36", "text": ">> Like those soap oper stories."}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:38", "text": ">> Oh, I can't even."}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:40", "text": ">> Those one minute soap opera stories."}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> I can't."}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "She'll be at us on the couch and I I"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "could see the couch from the bar. It's"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "like she's been scrolling through those"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "for three hours. And how much money have"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "you spent on their apps?"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:53", "text": ">> I don't even"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "Let's talk about the numbers"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:57", "text": ">> because they get you."}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:58", "text": ">> You guys know what we're talking about."}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "Can you explain these real quick?"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": ">> They call them verticals that if you"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "spend any time on Instagram or YouTube"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "shorts,"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "anything like that, you will know about"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "what these are. So, basically, they're"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "the worst type of acting, the worst soap"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "operas, and they show you"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "like several, they're one minute long"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "chunks, but they're a whole movie that"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "are like 60 minutes long, but they'll"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "show you like a chunk, like one, they'll"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "show you maybe 10, get you really into"}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "the story, but then to watch the rest of"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "it, you have to go to the app and you"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "have to a lot of times you either have"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "to"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "just wait."}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:46", "text": ">> And what do those apps cost?"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:48", "text": ">> They cost like 60 bucks a month. They're"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "crazy. They're ridiculous. They're"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "making so much money."}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": ">> How many apps are you subscribed to?"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:01", "text": ">> Like four or five."}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:04", "text": ">> That's a car payment. Imagine like the"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "the Spanish soap operas but way more"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "dramatic with worse acting and less"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "attractive people."}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:11", "text": ">> Oh, they're terrible. But like it's"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "funny because I see some people in them"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "that are um like people that I knew in"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "the acting scene back when I was in LA"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "in the acting scene. So it's it's it's"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "very funny. Yeah. They're like they're"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "tel nollas but you know American. And"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "they're all written by AI. You can tell."}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": ">> Oh yeah, Bubba. That was that was the"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "the 10th doctor. Maybe the 11th in the"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "TARDIS. That's that's where it stopped."}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": ">> Maybe 12th a little bit. Early part of"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "that early part of Kapali."}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": ">> I got to go. I got to go make meatballs."}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "Merry Christmas everybody."}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:46", "text": ">> Well, answer the question. Oh crap. It"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "doesn't matter. Asking the big question"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "and you can answer honestly."}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:53", "text": ">> Whose meatballs are better? Yours or"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "mine? Don't Don't do that if it's"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:09:00", "text": ">> Look, I grew up with mine."}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "So for me, mine are better. He grew up"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "with his. So for his, his are better."}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "It's just very, very different."}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:09", "text": ">> But let's say it doesn't matter. Was"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "going to sit down and just taste test."}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "What which do you think he would choose?"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:17", "text": ">> Okay, go ahead."}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:18", "text": ">> I'm not going to say what you want me to"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "say."}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:20", "text": ">> You don't have You don't have You could"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "say the truth."}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": ">> I like my meatballs better. They're big."}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "They're super big."}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "Anyway,"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "merry Christmas everybody."}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": ">> And you put a a crust on them, right?"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "Nice crust to get them seared. And then"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": ">> No, I cook mine in the sauce. So"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "everything"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:39", "text": ">> No, in the sauce. You put a You put pork"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "in the sauce. A big like a pork"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "shoulder."}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:42", "text": ">> I put Italian sausage in the sauce as"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "well."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:46", "text": ">> All right. I don't I don't have time to"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "to to do culinary school right now."}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:50", "text": ">> Goodbye."}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:53", "text": ">> There she goes."}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "There she goes. Chef of the future."}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "See, I told you it's contentious. We"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "don't fight a lot, but"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "yeah, she's got big balls."}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "Remember that AC/DC song? That was that"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "was a great one. Dusty, if you want to"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "stay happily married, remember she's"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "right. Woman is always right. Take it"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "from someone who's been married for over"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "30 years. Yeah, but what if they're not"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "always right? Besides, it's friendly. We"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "don't really We don't really fight about"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "stuff. We never have."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "That's kind of why it works is uh"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "is we fit each other's personality"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "because look, I'm difficult. She's not."}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:33", "text": "I'm difficult and she knows how to"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "manage me. And I mostly just tease her"}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "about the uh the meatballs, but I mean"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "mine are mine are better. Come on."}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:45", "text": "I mean, Naladon from the Bronx or Kansas"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "City. Just boil them in sauce."}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "John, but I got the biggest balls of the"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "ball. Phineas is you're on team Jen."}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "Not you got to taste it first. I don't"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "think you would be. She was very upset."}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "Um the first time I made him for for her"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "and Jake and and you know you know kids"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "tell they just tell the truth and Jake"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "said, \"Mommy, these are even better than"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "yours.\" I was like, \"Yes,"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "that's my boy.\""}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "Free dog. You're very welcome. Happy to"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "do it. Happy to do Look, if I wasn't"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "doing this, I would have to mingle with"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "guests."}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "it's not really my thing. I'm not much"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "of a mingler. I'm the guy at the at the"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "dinner party who just goes kind of hangs"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "out in in the corner and pretends to be"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "doing something."}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "Oh, forgot about quantum. Thank you for"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "20. So there I was minding my own"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "business, listening to some yacht rock,"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "discussing the finer details of life"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "with my inner monologue. Okay. When I"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "realized I need to say merry Christmas"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "to all Wersers and your W files team."}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "Thanks very much Quantum. Quantum always"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "reliable, always first with the super"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "chats."}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "And there is Julian Elise for 20 bucks."}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "You know what that means?"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "I want you to know I said human. Thank"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "you for all the dough tipping as I'm"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "sure you will find"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "is a good time."}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "It's fun to tip the FSH."}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "It's fun to tip the FSH."}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:48", "text": ">> Juliana, my gift to the W Files team."}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "Thanks for keeping us going. And you"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "especially very welcome, Juliana. Thank"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "you for being so consistent, reliable."}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "Really, really appreciate you. Clayton"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "saying, \"Anyone want to talk about"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:01", "text": "Native American mounds?\" Sure. What's"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "her name?"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "Let's see a picture. Oh, did you mean"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "something else? like the serpent mounds."}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "I think I covered them in a couple of"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "episodes. Serpent mounds are my favorite"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "and there's a lot of UFO sightings"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "around there and there are"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "electromagnetic anomalies near those"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "which are kind of cool. Nobody can"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "explain."}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "Missy delicious as a brown and raised"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "New York. I'll stick with a stick with"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "AJ's in New York. We don't I don't know"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "what brown is because you know my"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "Italian family were from southern Italy."}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "So I'm like the palest one. So a lot of"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "my cousins stuff they're really brown"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "but"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "you know so brown could be borqua just"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "black. I don't you know I don't know who"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "you are"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "but we love the Browns in the Bronx."}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "Everybody gets along there except uh"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "Italians and the Irish. We didn't get"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "along so great. We reconciled. Those"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "were really the only fights I had in the"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "neighborhood with the Irish kids."}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "Merry Christmas to you, Kevin Smith. And"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "there's Terry."}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "And do what David does. Ask a question."}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "When did you work at Sunrise Mall and"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "which store?"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "I worked at the Funning Gift Shop, which"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "was uh second level near Macy's. Like"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "way over near Macy's. We were basically"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "right next door to Macy's. So if you"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "know that part of Sunrise Mall and Fun"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "and Gift Shop was"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "kind of perfect for me. 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So things"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "that buzzed and vibrated and things that"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "were slippery and things you could"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "inflate and"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "turn into a date."}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "And it was it was funny because"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "people would we kept that section sort"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "of off so you could be private but it"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "was still sort of in the open and we had"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "it was a lot we had a lot of dirty"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "greeting cards there and you know with"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "with the greeting cards it's kind of on"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "a spinny thing so everyone would read"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "the greeting cards but they would since"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "it was spinny they would just they'd"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "stay in the corner and just spin it"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "around like they wouldn't be out in the"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "aisle where you could see them. they'd"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "stay in the corner and just kind of spin"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "the dirty cards. So, we had two types of"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "bags that we put stuff in. We had the"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "clear plastic bags and we had the the"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "the brown bags, the opaque bags back"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "when plastic bags were still legal. And"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "when when these businessmen would come"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "in and buy their filthy items, I would I"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "would always give them the clear bag."}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "And I I because I'd make them ask and"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "you know, everything they could do, you"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "have any other kind of bag? I said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "sure. Sure. I got you. I got you. I make"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "them ask for it."}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "It was a fun place to work. So I started"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "working there in 887."}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "87 through like 91 86 through like 91. I"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "was there a long time."}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "There a long long time. Really enjoyed"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "working there."}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "So So if you So you from the island? Uh"}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "David?"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "Merry Christmas to you, Len"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "Clayton Miller. Good to see you. Merry"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "Christmas teaches here. All right, I'm"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "I'm a little bit behind on the chat."}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "Oopsies, Jake. Yeah, we we still talk"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "about that. And by we, it just means me."}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "I bring it up a lot."}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "Jake doesn't remember. But, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "I'm sure to remind them."}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "Uh, Bass, you're very welcome. I'm glad"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "you think this is great because this is"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "this is all this really is. I mean, I've"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "got some news"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "to go over. Oh, but first, you know, if"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "you want to support your favorite"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "YouTube channel, you can check out the"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "Wi-Fi store, shopped at the wfiles.com."}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "I don't know what we're going to do"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "after the holidays"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "for uh for sales, but we'll do"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "something."}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "You know, it's not like,"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "you know, I'm very lucky that all the"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "merch sells out. Like we're never just"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "stuck with, oh, we got to run a sale and"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "get rid of this stuff. So, we usually"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "sell out of everything, which is great,"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "but also we don't make a lot of stuff."}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "Like the calendars, I think we still"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "have a few calendars left, maybe, but"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "we'll we only printed 500 of those."}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:34", "text": "Uh, so whenever we do a sale, it's"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "really just to get more merch out there."}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "So, if you want to support the channel,"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "that's shopthefiles.com."}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "Uh, this is my show prep."}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "So, we've got a couple of stories. Some"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "look okay. Uh, three atlas. We can talk"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "about that a little bit. Tail is weird."}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "It's going the wrong way. It's way too"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "long. The tail of three eye is 600,000"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "miles long. So, that's like distance"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "from here to the moon and then from here"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "to the moon again and then from here to"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "the moon almost again. That's a long"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "tail. and it's facing the wrong way and"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "it's blue."}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "Nobody really knows why. Uh, UFO"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "evidence in 1950s observatory photos. I"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "think we knew about that, but uh, I want"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:21", "text": "to see what if they have some photos in"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "the article."}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "Uh, I don't really care about deep sea"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "species. I care about deep sea aliens."}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "Maybe that's what they are. Tutmas II's"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "tomb was discovered."}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "So, I do want to see what that is about."}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "Quantum spin liquid uh, mystery solved."}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "I don't know if you guys will love that,"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "but I do want to take a look at that."}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "When I do my show prep, I always pull in"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "um news uh quantum news. I'm just"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "interested in it. I don't know if you"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "are. I would do more episodes about that"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "kind of stuff if I thought people would"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "like them. Uh so, we got a room"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "temperature quantum breakthrough. I knew"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "that was coming because of the because"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "of all the quantum biology that's that's"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "been discovered very recently. like um"}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "the one that blows everybody's mind is"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "how birds use quantum technology to"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "navigate."}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "And it's crazy because a lot of uh"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "migratory birds is what they will do is"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "there's a protein in their eye"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "called a cryptochrome. And what this"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "this cryptocurren will do is it will"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "spin off a particle"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "and entangle itself entangle itself with"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "another particle"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "in the earth's magnetic field so that"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "wherever it's going it always knows"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "where the earth's magnetic field is. And"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "they think that how this operates to a"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "bird"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "is, let me hang this for a second, is"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "that birds when they're flying, they"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "might see almost an overlay, like a HUD"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "of the Earth's magnetic field. I'd like"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "to see what that looks like. Wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "So, this is so that's very interesting."}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "But what's hard to for science to"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "reconcile is quantum systems are very"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "fragile and need to exist or needed to"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "exist when we create them at absolute"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "zero um in a vacuum. You have to try to"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "you can't even you can't even let the"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "thing vibrate. So that so you have to"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "have all kinds of systems in place to"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "keep it stable. And yet you've got a"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "bird's eye which is a very chaotic"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "system that operates quantum energy just"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "fine. Uh same with animals that have a a"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "strong sense of smell. Dogs, cats,"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "bears, a lot of them,"}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "they're using quantum tunneling to"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "smell, which is why their sense of smell"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "is so good. And quantum tunneling is the"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "dog can smell something through a cement"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "wall"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "because the particles just they just go"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "through that space in between the other"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "particles. It's crazy."}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "And some people think we have that as"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "well. So, I'm still working on that"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "episode about quantum consciousness."}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "And the longer I wait, the more real it"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "feels is because quantum consciousness,"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "a lot of that those theories come from"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "Sir Roger Penrose and Doug Hamarov,"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "their theory. It's the Orch theory where"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "we've got these microtubules in our"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "brain and they believe and and and"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "Penrose is he's he's Nobel Prize"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "winning. He's a super genius"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "from uh Oxford I believe super genius"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "and he thinks that these quantum tubules"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "have quantum these these microtubules"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "have quantum systems and those quantum"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "systems are are essentially collapsing"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "the waveform"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "in microsconds in nanconds in very small"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "amounts of time constantly and that's"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "makes us create our reality in real"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "I know it's it's crazy."}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "Not a great explanation, but that's why"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "it takes me a week or two to write"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "those."}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "And you know, maybe"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "Pembro is pretty old now. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "if I can get him in the basement to"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "talk, but I would love to. Um, he was"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "great on Rogan, but but I wanted Joe to"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "ask more physics questions, but you"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "know, that's Joe's really more wants to"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "hear more of the esoteric stuff."}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "and science with with uh with Sir Roger"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "if we can."}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "And Donald Huffman is another has some"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "other theories, not quite quantum,"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "but he believes that our reality is just"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "a user interface that there's something"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "very different that we're just not aware"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "of because we didn't evolve to"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "understand it. So, we evolved basically"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "a user interface, an OS, a desktop"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:57", "text": "that we use to navigate. And there is no"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "reality, but we're all working within"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "the same interface that we create all"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "the time."}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "Now, I got to scroll down in the chat to"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "see who's bored."}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "Uh, what's that? Did you get that show"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "started in the basement? No, we're a few"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "weeks away from that. I think I'm we're"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "recording the first show. We're going to"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "record a few and start releasing them"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:22", "text": "probably in February. So, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "record a few in January. Uh, just so I"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:27", "text": "can kind of relax. I haven't interviewed"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "people in 20 years. I I'm going to be"}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "rusty. So, we've got some friendly folks"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "coming in. Guys like Mike Barah, um,"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "Grandmaster Timothy Hogan, Knights"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "Templar, guys like that who will who"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "will be cool and let me make mistakes"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "and fumble around."}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "But uh but in the middle of all that, I"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:51", "text": "have to go out and do Tucker Carlson's"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "show. That's pretty crazy. So, we're"}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:55", "text": "probably gonna shoot that. We're gonna"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "shoot that January 20th. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:23:55", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "how long he takes to air,"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "but the deal was, you know, I'll I'll go"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "out and do Tucker show. I don't know why"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "he wants to talk to me, but you know,"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "it's like with Joe or Shawn Ryan. If"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "they call, you'd go do the show. But the"}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "deal with Tucker is, look, I'll"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "definitely come do it. of course, but"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "you got to come out to the basement. And"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "his team was like, \"Yeah, we we'll talk"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "about that.\" But he but but let's let's"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "get you nailed down first. So, I don't"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "know. I don't know. I'll put the"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:27", "text": "pressure on him when I'm out there."}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "Uh agent is going to have visuals, too."}, {"start": "01:24:27", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "Uh I wish I had Let me see. I might Do"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "you guys want to see the set? If you"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "give me a second, I might be able to to"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "grab some photos."}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "If If I If I can't, I can't."}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "Oh, boy. See, look at this. Look at"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "this."}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "Cuz those glasses that are for this. So,"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "I I need these."}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:52", "text": ">> Hey, kids at home, if you want to learn"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "how to do a professional live stream,"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "watch something else. This ain't it."}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:59", "text": ">> It's rude. U All right. Yeah, I've got I"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "got a couple of photos here. Let me see"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "if I can get them to you."}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "Is my airdrop ready?"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "I can't believe that worked. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "set that there. Back to these. So, as"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "far as visuals, agent, yeah, I mean, I'm"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "going to edit it, so it's not going to"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "be it'll be long form, maybe 90 minutes,"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "two hours, but we'll we'll talk for may"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "probably three and we'll spend a lot of"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "time like it's I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "necessarily interview people. What I"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "would like to do for some of these"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "guests like Mike Barah is"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "let's research together in real time. So"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "if Mike has claims, I mean he he covers"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "everything from JFK to the you know the"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "moon, Mars. So if he has theories about"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "the moon rather than him just we just"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "talk about it and you know he says in"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "this photo you can see this, this photo"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "you can see that well let's call up the"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "photos. Let's let's do the research"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "together in real time and if I can't see"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "it what you see, explain to us how you"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "can see it. Now, that's going to take a"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "lot of time to call up all those images"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "and on the web and all that. So, we will"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "cut out all of that stuff, but yeah,"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "it'll it'll be visual. All right, let me"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "see if I can get get these things up"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "here for you."}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "Uh there's one."}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "Uh, they're not they're not great"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "pictures, but you'll get the idea. And"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "there's two."}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "I can't. Ah, there we go."}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "There we go. So, that's that's one"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:57", "text": "angle."}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "That's the other angle. It's not going"}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "to look exactly like this because these"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "are sort of um behind the scenes shots,"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "but that's the set."}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "That's not bad, right?"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "Uh Fawn likes it. I'm glad."}, {"start": "01:27:15", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "Uh Leah, damn. More stories about like"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "synchronicity. I agree. I didn't think"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "that that one was going to be that"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "successful, but it turned out to be a"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "very successful video on the channel,"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "which is I I loved it because it means"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "people are interested in that kind of"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "stuff that we don't have to do aliens"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "every week."}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "Uh Miles, you want to arm wrestle Gino?"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "Only if you let me record that."}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "Pizzas looking good. Oh, pardon me. I'm"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:51", "text": "not professional."}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "Uh BM, yes, you can still see color, but"}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "everything is tinted orange. Like, so I"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "can't edit with these because you can't"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "see the color, but white is orange,"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "but I can see so much better with the"}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "lights in my eyes. Ganakus digs it."}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "Cool. Steven likes the set. James Tucker"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "Carlson. Yeah. Going to do do Tucker."}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "Um, I want to talk to him about 9/11"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "that uh I don't know if you watched his"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "9/11 uh docu documentary series. You"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "should. It's only four or five episodes."}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "They're short. Maybe 20 30 minute 30"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "minutes max each. So, it's just a couple"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "of hours. And he gets right to it. And"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "this is what I was talking to him and"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "his team about is what he's done is he's"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "kicked the door open for me because I"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "wouldn't touch 911. I just wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "touch it. But now that he did this whole"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:49", "text": "documentary on it with all this research"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "now, we can do it and I'll ask"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "permission to use, you know, clips from"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "his doc, which I'm sure he'll let me"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "because we'll send some people over"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "there. You don't got to pay for it, by"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "the way. It's free. It's free over"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "there. I know he has like a he has a"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "Patreon sort of thing. Pay like a"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "membership where you see stuff early. I"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "don't know what it costs,"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:08", "text": "but you can watch all of his stuff for"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "free. members get it first like we do"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "and then you can watch it for free. So I"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "want to I want to talk to about his 9/11"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "research and again with Tucker, no"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:19", "text": "politics, not interested in politics,"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "not interested in party politics. I want"}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "to talk about Israel. I want to talk"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "about his his process, his, you know,"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "his journey from Fox to to doing his own"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "thing, which, you know, because his show"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "is very different now."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "And besides, I don't like controversy"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "and all that partisan stuff, but I, you"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "know, I do like his suspicion of the"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "government and I like that he's covering"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "conspiracies very seriously. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "remember on Fox he was talking about"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "UFOs when it was still a joke. I"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:47", "text": "couldn't believe it. He was the only one"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "who took it seriously"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "and now everybody does, which is good."}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "So, he didn't 9/11 and I was like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "yes, now I can do that.\" And then maybe"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "just a week later, he had a chemtrails"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "guy on and I was like, \"That's another"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "one I didn't want to do, but here we go."}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "What I mean, what should we have him do"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "next for us to save us?\""}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:12", "text": "I I maybe I'll ask him to do the"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "Rothschilds. I I don't think he he'd"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "even go there."}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "Uh Roseband look I look into the Utah"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "Mormons and the White Salamander. So if"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "you have topic suggestions, uh go to the"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "wfiles.com/tips or go on Discord and"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:33", "text": "open a ticket, go on, uh Reddit and"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "start a post or email us at teamfiles"}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "and that's how that's the best way to"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "get topics. if you put them in here, I'm"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "going to forget. So, I would I'd happily"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "cover Mormons"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "if there's a story there and I don't"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "have to insult an entire religion."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "Besides, I like Mormons. I have a couple"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "that work for me because if I'm"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "interviewing people and they're a"}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "Mormon, they're top of the list because"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "they're so nice and they work so hard."}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "But the Mormons have a have a great and"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "bloody history."}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "I don't know if that if I should even do"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "stories about their history on the"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "channel,"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "you know, like Brigham Young Brigham"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "Young was a gangster. 20 21 wives. He"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "was a gangster"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "and like the Mormon wars like in in the"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "1850s. It'd be interesting stuff, but I"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "don't know if it's right for the W"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "files. Jeff is Tucker Wiles fan. He's he"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "likes it, but his team are big fans."}, {"start": "01:31:32", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "And I kind of see that a lot"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:39", "text": "is like a lot of the creators are kind"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "of aware of it, but I I wouldn't say"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "they're huge fans. I mean, Sean Ryan is"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "was a fan, but his his editors went"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "bananas when I was there. They ran out"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "of the room. They wanted to talk about"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "moon theories and all kinds of stuff."}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "And uh and Joe was a Joe was a big fan."}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "I don't know if you saw him talking to"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:32:01", "text": "um to Jamie a couple of weeks ago,"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "but he gave it he gave a great gave a"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "great shout out"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "about how good the show is. So that was"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "very nice."}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "So"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "I use that as an opportunity by the way."}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "So he it was a great shout out. So I"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "sent him a text saying I appreciate"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "that. You were very nice."}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "By the way, I'm launching a new show."}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:29", "text": "So, if you have any slots"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "coming up, I'd love to come on and talk"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "about some stuff and maybe promote the"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "show. And I didn't know what to expect"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "from Joe because it's not like like Sean"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "and I talk a lot. And Sean's producer"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "Jeremy and I I would consider Jeremy a"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "good friend at this point. We talk all"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "the time. All the time. Just yesterday,"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "in fact. But Joe and I the only We"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "talked when I was on there and then"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "that's it. I'm not going to bother him."}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:53", "text": "It's got to be one of the most famous"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "people in the country, right? So, I"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "didn't know what to expect by kind of"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "asking to come on and he was like,"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "\"Dude, just give me three weeks notice"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "and you're in.\" I was like, \"Yes.\""}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "He's like, \"You want to do it in three"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "weeks?\" And I said, \"No, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "I I need a little bit more time to get"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "to get my feet under me, but I"}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "appreciate that.\" And uh thanks for the"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:13", "text": "shout out. I call him the podfather"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "because he's been he's been very"}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:18", "text": "supportive of the W files."}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "Taurus Joseph Smith is a crazy story,"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "but I don't go after Joseph too hard"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "because every religion's got that"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "supernatural thing to it. Now, look, I"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "Joseph Smith's story is is crazier to me"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "than even other religions, but a"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "religion is sacred to someone. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "not going to attack your beliefs,"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "but Brigham Young was a gangster."}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "Kathy Smithy. I call I call him the podf"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "father because because he's supportive"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "of the wife, but he supports everybody."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "You know, he's"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "I find this what I do is very"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "competitive. So, there are a lot of"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "people in my space that kind of do what"}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "I do and they do not like that I'm here."}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "They don't like it. They don't like it."}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "They don't like me,"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "you know. But I don't think it's a zero-"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "sum game. I think there's room for more."}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:15", "text": "If if you're entertaining and and people"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "like your show,"}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "keep doing it. I cuz I don't think"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "you're going to watch one or the other."}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "I don't think I think there's room for"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "everybody. And if you're thinking of"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "starting a YouTube channel, start it"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "right now cuz you don't know what's"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "going to happen."}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "Scott asks, \"Colaris incident in"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "Portugal.\" I didn't I don't know about"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "that. I covered the Colaris Island"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "incident in Brazil."}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "But if there's another incident in"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "Portugal, I'm not aware of it, but"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "definitely send that in."}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "Um 6ix9ine, the Netflix series about the"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "Mormons and Indians was awesome. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "that covered the Mormon war at I think"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "1857 that took place. Brigham Young is"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "in that. You see, he's a he's a"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:58", "text": "gangster."}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "Well, if it's the end is nigh, I tend I"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "tend to agree."}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "WT, is it true that I'm the count of St."}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "Germaine? Well, the count doesn't age,"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "and I clearly do. Like someone in the"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "chat earlier is like, \"Oh, it's good"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "that that you're letting your your gray"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "grow out.\" Like, dude, I never colored"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "my hair. I don't color my hair. Besides,"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "chicks dig the gray. Come on, ladies."}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "You know you like the gray. So, if my"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "hair looks darker in other videos, check"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "the date. It could be from 5 years ago."}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "So, because it is more gray every day."}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "But I don't mind it. I don't mind it."}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "But I will admit, for the first time"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "ever, I'm letting Jen kind of take"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "control of the face. So she so she took"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "me to like one of these facial places to"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "get all kinds of stuff done. Very, very,"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "very painful. I had bas it looked like I"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "lost a fight for like 5 days. It looked"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "like I lost a fight, which I haven't"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "done. I don't lose any fights. So it"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "looked like I lost a fight. It was"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "really rough, but my skin did look"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "better cuz I got to I want to get rid of"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "the old man neck and it's working. Now"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "she's got me moisturizing twice a day. I"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "never did any of that. Um she came to me"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "not too long ago. She she said so she"}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "saw something online and she's like,"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "\"These guys were talking about how when"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "they're in the shower when they wash"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "themselves, they just kind of rub soap"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "over everything and then rinse off. like"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "no"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "no no towel cloth, no loofah. And and I"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "said, \"What are you I don't I didn't"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "even know what a lofah was until we"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "met.\" Said, \"What do you think I do in"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "the shower?\" I mean, I do a few things"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "different things in the shower, but I"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "What do you think that's how that's how"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "we do it? Just cover everything down,"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "hose it off,"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "little conditioner in the hair."}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "But now, I know I need special"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:49", "text": "conditioner because I don't want to get"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "too thin, you I don't mind the gray, but"}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "I want to keep it. Want to keep want to"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "keep that there. Uh JJ Peppers, would I"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "touch Bible prophecy? Absolutely."}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "Absolutely. Yes. I've covered I covered"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "a lot of Bible stories. There's a whole"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "playlist on them. Um because I don't"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "attack it. I don't I I try not to attack"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "anything. So, I don't attack the Bible."}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "So, Bible prophecies is a great episode"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "there. And if I haven't covered them"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "already,"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "then that's a that's a chicken dinner"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:25", "text": "winner. So, send that in."}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "Um, I mean, I do Nazi prophecies. I'm"}, {"start": "01:37:25", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "writing I'm writing another one now"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "about Nazi prophecies."}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "You know, I hate to say it, but you do a"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "Hitler episode and it's a winner."}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "I was going to say I don't know why that"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "is, but I do know why. Because it's"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "He He was interesting. I'm not a fan,"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "but he was so crazy like go the way that"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "he basically tore up all of Europe"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "searching for biblical artifacts. That's"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "nuts and took it so seriously."}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "That's interesting to me."}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "And um the escape the Hitler's escape"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "episode did did really well which I was"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "I was surprised and I was nervous about"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "it because I don't want to get people"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "annoyed or angry and"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "you know I don't spend a lot of time in"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "the episodes explaining myself cuz you"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "know I don't need to apologize for"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "anything. So when I do an episode about"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "Hitler or something that's"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "controversial, I see the comments"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "calling me an anti-semite, it's like,"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "how? You don't know me. You don't know"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "all the all the Jewish kids I grew up"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "with or that were like family to me. You"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "don't know that half of my family is"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "Jewish. You didn't know that, did you?"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "Didn't know that. So easy with the"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "judgment because you don't know me."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:50", "text": "All right, what do we got? Iris says,"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "\"Do what makes you happy.\" I mostly do,"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "but but I kind of want to do what makes"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "you happy because it's a job,"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "you know. So, there are"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "uh Purple says, \"I thought the Podfather"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "is is Tom Green.\" Um I we had him in the"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "old studio. He was really really nice."}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "Uh he actually just gave me an idea. I'd"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "like to get him in the basement. He was"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "really nice. He's really smart. I don't"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "know if the youngsters know who he was,"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "but he was he was he was fun."}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "Um, yeah. So, I a lot of the episodes I"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "do I'm not interested in, but I'm not"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "interested in when I first get the"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "topic. Like, a lot of our successful"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "episodes I didn't even want to do. Like"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "the Adam and Eve story is our biggest"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "episode and I wasn't really into it, but"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "a lot of people asked for it and it's"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "like, \"All right, a lot of people want"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "me to do crop circles. I guess I'll do"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "And then I start to get into the"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "research and one of two things happens"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "hopefully and what usually happens is I"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "find something interesting to latch on"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "to and I go down that rabbit hole and"}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "it's like all right I'm into the story."}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "If that doesn't happen then I just keep"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "reading and looking until I can find"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "something that's interesting to me"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "because there always is going to be. And"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "once I find that then I know that if I"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "can make it interesting to me and you"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "can see that that's authentic."}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "my job to make it interesting to you."}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "And I think I can do that. I don't I"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "don't hit it out of the park every time,"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "but but I do but I do. I swing for the"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "fences every time."}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "Uh card, uh I would look at you as"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "popularizing the genre and opening doors"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "if I had this type of channel. I hope"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "so. Um,"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "what I do differently and but a lot of"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "people do it now"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:42", "text": "and you know you some of them credit the"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "W file some of them don't but what I do"}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "differently at least from the start of"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "the channel is I don't condescend about"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "the topics"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "you know so if you're a believer I don't"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "talk down to you and make you feel"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "stupid I try to tell the story as true"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "as I can so that you get what you want"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:02", "text": "out of the story and hopefully something"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "new and fun and exciting and Then toward"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "the end, I'll break down what I found is"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "definitely not true. Um, definitely is"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:11", "text": "true. And then the stuff that is still"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "nebulous. And a lot of people, and by a"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "lot, I mean most, they bail out before"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "that comes in. I call it the the debunk"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "section, but it's not really. It's"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "analysis. But people bail out before the"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "analysis. And I get it. You know, you"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "want to hear your favorite urban legend,"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:28", "text": "and you don't want to hear some guy"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "talking about how your favorite things"}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "are wrong. And I see those comments too"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "that I ruined you. I you ruined my"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "favorite story. Thanks a lot. Well, I'm"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "sorry I told you the truth though, you"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "know, and and when I do analysis, if"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "it's my opinion, I tell you that. I tell"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "you, look, I can't prove this, but this"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "is what I think is happening here. And"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "sometimes I say, I can't prove this, and"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "I don't know what's happening here. I"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "think that's awesome. Those are the best"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "stories, aren't they? the ones that we"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "get to the analysis and it's like all"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "right how much of this story is true and"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "I go a lot of it I don't know most of it"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "seems to be true I can't debunk this"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "story you know a couple of of the UFO"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "stories I can't really debunk those you"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "know the Zimbabwe story people say"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "that's it's so compelling but I think I"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "think I debunked it uh but there are"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "others like the Westall UFO sighting in"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "Australia I can't debunk that all you"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "know with Zimbabwe it was the witnesses"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "were all like six seven-year-old kids uh"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "who were sort of manipulated is not the"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "right word, but you know uh John John"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "Mack was a psychiatrist who went out"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "there to interview the kids, but his"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "interviews were very leading and he went"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "into the interviews assuming the kids"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "were telling the truth and skipped a lot"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "of foundational questions and went right"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "to what did the craft look like? What"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "did the aliens look like? He went right"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "to that instead of trying to figure out"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "all right, did these kids see anything?"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "Because look, if a couple of"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "seven-year-olds say they see something,"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "whatever it is, UFO, Bigfoot, something"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "cool, and they're getting some"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "attention, then all the kids are going"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "to say it, I think, because that's how"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "kids are. So, I think so that story is a"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:13", "text": "little bit tainted. Same with the Vargi"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "incident. I think it's a little bit"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "tainted. John Mack was there, too. But"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "uh but Westall, kids saw it, teachers"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "saw it, air raid drills go off, they"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "brought all the kids inside because the"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:28", "text": "the teachers were scared about what was"}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "over the playground. And how do you"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "That's a tough one to debunk because"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "everybody saw something. Lots of people."}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "A lot of them are still around. And uh a"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "viewer told me they get together every"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "year like a reunion."}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "The council demands AJ's dance. Have at"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "Uh Aon Hubard, what incident? Vari the"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "Vargina incident. That was in Brazil."}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:56", "text": "That was that was the alien that uh had"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "like the brown slippery skin and the red"}, {"start": "01:43:56", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "eyes."}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "But um so I think I think it it's"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "probably debunked, but I can't say for"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:07", "text": "sure, which is what I say in the"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "episode. I was honest. But James Fox did"}, {"start": "01:44:07", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "a great documentary on that story that I"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:13", "text": "recommend doing. Um James just confirmed"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "to be on the basement as well, by the"}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "way. So that should be fun. So he did a"}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:19", "text": "great documentary on that story and"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:21", "text": "there's a scene in his dock which is"}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "really good where they went to the"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "apartment of one of the soldiers that"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "was part of like the cleanup mission and"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "he refused to talk to them. Like he was"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "very angry about it and uh he James had"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "translators there and stuff. James is"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "like, \"Well, what's going on? Is he"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "going to come out?\" And and they said,"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "\"Not only is he not coming out, he said"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "he has a gun.\" And they were like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "okay. All right. Well, we don't got to"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "got to force the guy to talk. Why don't"}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "we just slowly back away? But he did he"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "did a great job there."}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "And there were some eyewitnesses that"}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:56", "text": "were very compelling."}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "Crisala doesn't trust James Fox. I get"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "it. I get it. But what I want you to um"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "and I and I'll repeat this a few times"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "for people who are new. The basement is"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "not going to be a confrontational show."}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "You know, it's not going to be me."}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "Like, you know, there there are people"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "out there that I don't believe hardly"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "anything they say. Like Billy Carson, I"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "don't really believe any of his stuff. I"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "think a lot of it's wacky, but I but"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "he's a good storyteller. So, like the Y"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "files, let's just let them tell their"}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "story. And there's no reason for me to"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "to sit there and go, \"Yeah, but prove"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "it.\" Why do that? It's not fun to watch,"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:35", "text": "you know, like um with Graham Hancock,"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "who I'm trying to get on. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:45:35", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "if he'll do it. He'll do it. Trying to"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:43", "text": "get on,"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:45", "text": "but Graham should not debate people"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "because it's not like the Flint Dibble"}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:52", "text": "debate with Graham on on Rogan's show."}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "It was mostly just awkward and Flint"}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "Dibble comes off as unlikable. So,"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "that's not very good for him, but I"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "think he is unlikable. And Graham did"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "not come off well. He came he almost"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "came off as unprepared."}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "But Graham later said, you know, Flint"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "came up with these facts that I"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "researched later and they weren't even"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "close to true, but I didn't know that in"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "the moment. So my advice to someone like"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "Graham is don't debate them. Come on,"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "tell your story, present your evidence,"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:19", "text": "and then just let people decide for"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "themselves. Why have a skeptic on to"}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "tear you apart? So, I'm not going to do"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "that. Have Billy on, tell a story. If"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "it's super super crazy, I will probe a"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "little bit like, okay, I understand the"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "story, but can you walk me through how"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "you got there? You know, like we do on"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "the show. Let's investigate together."}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "Um, you say that there's that everyone,"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "every human has telepathic abilities."}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:49", "text": "Got it. Let's go back to the beginning."}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "How do we get there? Make me see it your"}, {"start": "01:46:49", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "way. And I think that's more compelling"}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "than me just saying you're wrong or I"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "don't believe you or that's stupid. But"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "I want to know what you guys think"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "because just like the Y files, The"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "Basement, we don't know what show we"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:07", "text": "have. Let me get rid of this pin"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:09", "text": "comment. We don't know what show we have"}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "until it runs for a while because you"}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "just don't know what's going to happen."}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:17", "text": "Merry Christmas, Mouse. There's an"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "Aussie. Uh, Mega Johnny. Um, so thanks"}, {"start": "01:47:17", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "for tagging me. That's how I see your"}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "your comments in the main chat. So, if"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "you don't want to super chat,"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "uh, Megan Johnny, I judge YouTubers on"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "people I would want to to drink with."}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "Cheers. Uh, and have happy new year."}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "Hope your Christmas was awesome. Million"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "more viewers daily. I appreciate that."}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "Now, the subscribers have definitely"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:41", "text": "plateaued. And by plateau, I mean go"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "they're go they're getting lower every"}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "month. Um, but the views are still"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "strong. You know, as long as the video"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "hits a million in a in a day, I know"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "that we're doing all right."}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "Lamar, do the Mellin story. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "wfiles.com/tips. Open a ticket on"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "Discord. Create a post on Reddit or"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:01", "text": "email team at the wildfiles.com."}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "And when you email your topic idea,"}, {"start": "01:48:01", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "don't just say do the Mellin story"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "because I already know the Mellin story"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:10", "text": "went around the world. That's the story."}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "But you're going, \"No, no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "01:48:10", "end": "01:48:12", "text": "There's all this other stuff.\" Well, put"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "that other stuff in the email or the"}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:18", "text": "ticket so I know what I'm looking at."}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "Clark says, \"After meeting your lady, I"}, {"start": "01:48:18", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "have to say you got the trophy. She's"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "only got the participation award.\" Very"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:26", "text": "nice. Very nice. I'll accept that. She's"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "no trophy, though. She works really"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "hard."}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "She runs the business, although Victoria"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "runs most of it now. But Jen Jen really"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "got us started. I wouldn't be I wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "be here without her. She's a great"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "partner. And she comes from"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "media background, you know, TV, so she"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "knows what we're doing."}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:49", "text": "Uh, Tom Del Long would be a good"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "interview."}, {"start": "01:48:49", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "Does wife House have what it takes to"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "cover Whitley Streamer? I don't know"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "what that means. Have what it takes? If"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "you mean, do I have the ability and the"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "talent? Then I have that to cover"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "anybody, Bobby. With all due respect, I"}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "don't I just don't know if I would do"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "Whitly Streberver. He's got a great"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:08", "text": "story. If you guys don't know, he's the"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "um abductee who wrote Communion back in"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "the 80s."}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:14", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "so I don't know what new thing I can"}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "bring to his story. Now to have him come"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "in and talk would be fun, but to cover"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "his story, I don't know what new thing I"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "would do there. But I have mentioned it"}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "a few times and but there are a couple"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "of abduction stories I just won't do"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "that are just too graphic, you know,"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "like Travis Walton and some of those."}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "Ronald Shaw, if the Anunnaki story is"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "accurate, then perhaps we do have hidden"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "potential that we have yet to unlock. I"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "agree with that."}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "like the telepathy tapes. I can't debunk"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "those. You know, maybe there's slight of"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "hand and something going on in the edit,"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "but I was very hesitant to even watch"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "those cuz people kept telling me, \"You"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "got to watch this.\" And I was very"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "hesitant. And I started watching. I was"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "like, \"Wow,"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "this is I I don't I don't know how"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "they're doing this, but it but it seems"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "real.\" And I I think we do have the"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:07", "text": "capability of telepathy. At least most"}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "of us do"}, {"start": "01:50:07", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "cuz we don't understand the brain enough"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "to know that. Are you guys watching"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "Pluribus? Plurus was the season finale"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "last night. Uh, no spoilers, but"}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "I don't need to say this without"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "spoiling, but the human race is able to"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "all communicate at once"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "through some through an electromagnetic"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:33", "text": "anomaly or something. And the people who"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:36", "text": "can do this don't even understand how it"}, {"start": "01:50:33", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "works, but it works."}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:40", "text": "So, the writers are very, very smart."}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "That's Vince Gilligan, by the way. So,"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:45", "text": "Better Call Saw, Breaking Bad. He made"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:48", "text": "it hit another home run with Plurbus."}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "And uh not surprising because Vince got"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "his start on the X-Files back in the day"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "back in the Chris Carter days."}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "All right, let me scroll. See what I"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "missed."}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "Merry Christmas. Sinai Bible. Yeah, send"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "that in."}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "Foxy Roxy. Remember the XFiles Trust No"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "One. Totally agree. You remember the"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "Lone Gunman? They did one season of"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "that. I think Vince worked on that too."}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "It was a very, very good series and it's"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "almost impossible to find now because"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "they covered a lot of conspiracy"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "theories and a few of them came true."}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:26", "text": "And they're called the Lone Gunman,"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:26", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:51:26", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "Ivan Croian guy living in Ireland. Been"}, {"start": "01:51:28", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "a fan forever. Just dropped off my ex"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "and our kid to the house um instead of"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "crying myself to sleep. Merry Christmas"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "to you, my friend."}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "Tim Espinosa loves the work. Appreciate"}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "you. Uh John Anderson Titanic"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "conspiracy. Yeah, I that's I've had that"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "halfwritten for a while because there"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:51", "text": "are some good conspiracies with the"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "Titanic. how the ship was switched and"}, {"start": "01:51:51", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "there's the JP Morgan conspiracy that uh"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "that it might have been intentionally"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "sunk."}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:01", "text": "So, there's some good stuff there. Uh"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "Hoopia Jesse Michaels I think would be"}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "good in the basement. It was on his show"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "where um where Joe was talking about us"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:10", "text": "and Jesse seems like a very nice guy and"}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:12", "text": "I didn't know he was aware of the"}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "channel but he is. Irish I'd love to do"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "an Art Bell collaboration. Yeah, I miss"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "him too. Abundantly Empowered. But um"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "but I am working on that movie with"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:24", "text": "those guys which is moving right along."}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "Ronda likes Billy Carson's ideas. So"}, {"start": "01:52:24", "end": "01:52:28", "text": "this is exactly why there's no reason"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "for me to attack him because if he has"}, {"start": "01:52:28", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "fans,"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "it's condescending. So if you like"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "Billy's stories, his ideas, and you want"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "to hear them, I'll have him on and we'll"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "talk him out. Doesn't he doesn't have to"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "convince me of anything."}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "uh rec George Nory as a basement guest."}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:54", "text": "Maybe, you know, I think he'd do it."}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "I think he'd do it."}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "I mean, his producer used to be be my"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "intern back in the day, so I think he'd"}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "do it. I don't know what we talk about,"}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:04", "text": "though, because I would just want to"}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "talk about art. And you got to figure"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "he's sick of that because how do you how"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "do you take over for Art Bell,"}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:13", "text": "man? When when people say the W files is"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:15", "text": "the new art bell, I go no ho hold hold"}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "on."}, {"start": "01:53:15", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "Those those shoes, you cannot fill those"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:21", "text": "shoes."}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "Six. I am going to try and get Weird in"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "the basement. You know, I'm a You know,"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "I'm a huge fan. There it is. Weirdowl"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "backstage VIP"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "this year's tour."}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "And I I told you guys my backstage al"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "story, right? I won't tell it again"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "unless you unless you want me to. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:41", "text": "I'd love to get him on. I think he would"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:43", "text": "do it uh because he has a lot of fans in"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "our audience."}, {"start": "01:53:43", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "A lot of it's going to depend on and he"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:47", "text": "does media when he's launching a new"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "tour and he just announced that he's"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:53", "text": "that he's um I don't know if he's"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "continuing the this bigger and weirder"}, {"start": "01:53:53", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "tour into next year or next year is just"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "he's going to launch a new one, but he's"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:54:00", "text": "touring again next year. And look, if"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:03", "text": "you've never seen Weird Live, go do it."}, {"start": "01:54:00", "end": "01:54:05", "text": "Take the whole family, take the kids."}, {"start": "01:54:03", "end": "01:54:07", "text": "It's super super fun and it is a"}, {"start": "01:54:05", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "multimedia experience. It is not just"}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "watching a guy sing parodies. It's a"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:15", "text": "whole thing with cameras in the crowd"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:17", "text": "and and screens everywhere. He changes"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "into every costume. He does all the"}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "hits. He wears the fat suit. Comes out"}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "on the Segway. He does he does"}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "everything you want and and a few songs"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "that uh that you haven't heard."}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "So I think I've seen him 14 times now. I"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "think this was my 14th show."}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "Merry Christmases Art and salute to you"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "and your familia. Your channel fight my"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:41", "text": "depression. Much love from Romania."}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "Thanks, man. Hang in there. I I suffer"}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "from depression as well. So, I know what"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "you're going through. It's And it's"}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "mostly just frustrating because you"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "because you because you don't know why."}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "You don't know why it's happening. You"}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "know, I feel it coming on and I let Jen"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:54:59", "text": "know I feel the darkness. It's coming"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "on. And then we just sort of prepare,"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "hunker down."}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:06", "text": "But it's really really annoying because"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "when you're in it, at least for me, when"}, {"start": "01:55:06", "end": "01:55:09", "text": "I'm depressed, I'm very aware of it. I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "telling myself, will you just snap out"}, {"start": "01:55:09", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "of it? But you can't."}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "Rev. If you don't have an Illuminati"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "neon sign, I'm going to be so sad."}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "That's a great idea. I don't know. Can"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:25", "text": "we get a Can we get a sign in there?"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:27", "text": "I guess we could get one in there. And"}, {"start": "01:55:25", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "if you guys, if you see the window up"}, {"start": "01:55:27", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "there, when you're watching the show,"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "keep an eye on that window. That window,"}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:35", "text": "you're just going to see like a street"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:37", "text": "outside, but every once in a while, some"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "weird stuff is going to happen in that"}, {"start": "01:55:37", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "window. You may see an alien peek in or"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:44", "text": "Bigfoot walk by, but keep an eye on that"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:44", "text": "window."}, {"start": "01:55:44", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "Yeah, there's the other angle."}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "And all the stuff I'm I'm putting my"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "mouse on there as if you can see it. All"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "the stuff that's on the shelves,"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "it's all stuff that's been sent in by"}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "you guys. You know, all the books that I"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:05", "text": "get and all the little knickknacks is"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:05", "text": "that that stuff's all in there."}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "Uh Lori Graham Graham is a W house fan."}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "Of course, come on the basement. We have"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:14", "text": "mutual friends,"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "but I don't know if he's a fan unless"}, {"start": "01:56:14", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "you know that for sure. you know, I'm"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:25", "text": "very complimentary to him on there."}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:26", "text": "So, I've been a fan of his. I mean, I"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "have I have his book on the set for a"}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:31", "text": "long time. I've been a fan of his since"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "the '9s. So, it would be an honor to"}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:35", "text": "have him in. So, I hope he does."}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:37", "text": "CV is still holding out for the Mike"}, {"start": "01:56:35", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "Markhamm interview. So, Mike, which I"}, {"start": "01:56:37", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "didn't know, is a Patreon member. So"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "during one of the live the Patreon live"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:46", "text": "streams, I think it was last week, Mike"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "was there and it was like having a"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:49", "text": "celebrity in the chat. So it was super"}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "fun. People were asking him questions"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "and they were goating him like you got"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "to go on you got to go in the basement."}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "I don't know if he will. Um, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "promised not I promised Mike I wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "say where he lives, but he lives far"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:05", "text": "away, so it'd be hard for him to get to"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:08", "text": "Vegas. But I told him I'll I'll pay for"}, {"start": "01:57:05", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "it. I'll pay to get you here. and he's"}, {"start": "01:57:08", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "like, \"Ah, I don't I don't know.\" He's"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "very private person. Apparently, all the"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "stuff from Art Bell got him a lot of"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "grief. And then when I did hit the"}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "episode, it kind of brought all that"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "back. And then when the W files covered"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "Mike, then everybody did. So, he was"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "just swamped. And here's the thing with"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:32", "text": "Mike. Remember, he's a Patreon member"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "now, so he pays to support the channel."}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "Thing with Mike was, so I released the"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "Mike Markhamm episode. Still one of my"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "favorite time travel stories. And again,"}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "I was complimentary to Mike. I didn't"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "say I fully believed him, but the things"}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "that he got right, I mentioned. I also"}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:50", "text": "mentioned that he was the only time"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "travel story that talked about"}, {"start": "01:57:50", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "compensation for the movement of the"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "earth in space. And I thought that was"}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "that was genius. And a lot of his"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "uh electro electrical engineering"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "facts were correct. And Artbell"}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:09", "text": "challenged him on some of those. and"}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "Mike knows his stuff. Um, so I released"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "the episode, it did well and then a"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:18", "text": "bunch of other channels did that episode"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "and then suddenly"}, {"start": "01:58:18", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "the episode was taken off my channel and"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "I was like, what happened there? And I"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "noticed that copyright strike by Mike"}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:30", "text": "Markham and they just yanked it because"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "it's, you know, it's his story. It's his"}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "intellectual property. Um, now"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:41", "text": "I can cover his story. He He couldn't"}, {"start": "01:58:38", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "copyright strike that. He couldn't He"}, {"start": "01:58:41", "end": "01:58:43", "text": "couldn't do that. And Mike, if you're"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "watching, hang on. I'm going to get"}, {"start": "01:58:43", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "there. So, he strikes the channel and"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "I'm talking to um my attorney. My"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "attorney's like, \"We'll just go to war."}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "He can't do that.\" He said, \"You're"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "allowed to tell anyone's story as if"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:00", "text": "you're providing commentary and adding"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "something new.\" Which I did. And and I"}, {"start": "01:59:00", "end": "01:59:03", "text": "didn't defame him. So, he's like, \"Let's"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "go to war with this guy.\" And I said,"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "\"You know what?"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "Let me reach out to him first. Let's do"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "let's try that first. Let's be people"}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:15", "text": "first before we before we lawyer up. Um,"}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "and look, my lawyer is the nicest nicest"}, {"start": "01:59:15", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "guy. He's the he's he's like my"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "therapist more than my attorney, but"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "he's got my back.\" So, he's like, \"All"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:24", "text": "right, if you want to do that, you know,"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "meanwhile, no one's watching your"}, {"start": "01:59:24", "end": "01:59:27", "text": "episode and you're not getting paid for"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:29", "text": "it.\" It's like, \"Let me see if we can"}, {"start": "01:59:27", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "just be people.\" So, I emailed Mike. I"}, {"start": "01:59:29", "end": "01:59:34", "text": "tracked him down. He wrote me back, I"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:37", "text": "don't know, in an hour"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "and explained, you know, this is making"}, {"start": "01:59:37", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "my life hard and all of that. And so, he"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "said, I just went through and I just"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "every every episode of everyone who"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "covered me, I just bang bang bang, I"}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:48", "text": "took him down. I said, I get it. I So, I"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "said, Mike, what can I do to get your"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "story back up that doesn't upset you or"}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "offend you? I said, cuz the big thing"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "was I showed his pat maybe his maybe it"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:02", "text": "was patented. I don't know. His plans,"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "his diagram was in the episode. I said,"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "\"Mike, I'll recut it. I'll take that"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "out. Um I'll photos, whatever you want"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "me to change, I'll change it. I care"}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "more about your story.\" And we went back"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "and forth for a little bit. And the"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "conversation was friendly."}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "And eventually he got to, you know, to"}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "be honest, I've been watching the W"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "files a long time and I just I just hit"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "everybody's channel. I wasn't even"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "really looking at whose I was hitting. I"}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "said, I get it, but what can I do to"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "make it right? And he said, you know"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "what? Put it back up. And he sent me a"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:40", "text": "document that makes the Y files the only"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "channel that can legally tell his story"}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:45", "text": "and show his stuff. He gave me a full"}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "release on it."}, {"start": "02:00:45", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "didn't have to lawyer up, didn't have to"}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "do anything like that. Put the episode"}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:54", "text": "back on. Um, told my rep what happened."}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "It's like, cool, everybody's friends."}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:00:59", "text": "And, um, and Mike just kind of became"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:01", "text": "email buddies. He's fun to talk to. He's"}, {"start": "02:00:59", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "a nice guy. And I didn't know he's a"}, {"start": "02:01:01", "end": "02:01:06", "text": "Patreon member. So, there's a lesson in"}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "there somewhere, right? Is before you go"}, {"start": "02:01:06", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "hard, see if you can just be a person."}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:13", "text": "And the first email is going to tell you"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "because he could have been a jerk. He"}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "could have just been a jerk and said, \"F"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "you.\" But he didn't. He did. He He"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "didn't. He was He was very sincere and"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:23", "text": "said, \"I'm very private person and all"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "this attention is really making things"}, {"start": "02:01:23", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "hard.\" And I was like, \"I get it, man.\""}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "So, and I even told him, \"If you want me"}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "to just leave it down, I'll do it. I'm"}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "not looking I'm not looking to make"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:33", "text": "anybody miserable.\" So, I try not to"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "cover too many people who are still"}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:37", "text": "around"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "because I didn't want to do that."}, {"start": "02:01:37", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "So, Mike turned out to be what we'd call"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "back in New York a gentleman. In the"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "Bronx, we call him a mench."}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:48", "text": "Al Pacino, Billy Carson is whack. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "I think he's whack. You know, if it's on"}, {"start": "02:01:48", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "Gaia, it's bunk, but his stories are"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:56", "text": "good and he tells them well. So, you"}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "know, I don't know how well that's going"}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "to do."}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "I'm afraid of the comments, they're"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "going to be like, you just let this guy,"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:04", "text": "not talking about Billy, just in"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "general, you just let this guy tell this"}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "crazy story that you know is fake and"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:09", "text": "you didn't challenge him on it."}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:13", "text": "I'll push back a little bit, but I'm not"}, {"start": "02:02:09", "end": "02:02:16", "text": "looking to debunk somebody live, you"}, {"start": "02:02:13", "end": "02:02:18", "text": "know, for hours. GH, who wants to watch"}, {"start": "02:02:16", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "you know, that's I'm I'm not cable news."}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:24", "text": "This is a storytelling channel. So,"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "let's bring people in to tell their"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "stories."}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "Uh, let's do a couple of super chats"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "before I get back into the chat. Uh,"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "Jeremiah, great shirt."}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "Well, if you like this shirt,"}, {"start": "02:02:36", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "you can grab them from the Wile store, I"}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "think. I think. Can you"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "lum? Ah, there they go. There you go."}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "Wall store has these. And you notice all"}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:52", "text": "those other creators you watch that have"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:56", "text": "the 34.95 t-shirts. See the price? 20"}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "bucks. Victoria hates it. She hates it."}, {"start": "02:02:56", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "She wants to raise prices on everything,"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:02", "text": "but no. 20 bucks. That's what a t-shirt"}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "should cost. And it's one of my I wear"}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "it a lot. Not because of the saying,"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:09", "text": "which is cool, but it's really this this"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:11", "text": "one's comfortable. So, if you're going"}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "to buy one, I recommend uh not that one."}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:16", "text": "Don't get that one. Where is the Heather"}, {"start": "02:03:13", "end": "02:03:16", "text": "gray?"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:23", "text": "It might be that one."}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "It It's really comfortable cuz not all"}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "of them are. I have two my crabcat"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "shirts not not so comfortable. Um I've"}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:31", "text": "got two Mel's hole shirts. one I don't"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "wear because it's just too stiff. But I"}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "have another Mel's Hole shirt that I"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "wear all the time. So that's why I wear"}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "the Illuminati shirt. It's comfortable."}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "But anyway, 20 bucks and it's yours."}, {"start": "02:03:43", "end": "02:03:47", "text": "We've got Daryl for 10. Merry Christmas"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "from Emilyn and family to our absolute"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:50", "text": "favorite YouTube channel and family."}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "Love you. Merry Christmas. Love you too,"}, {"start": "02:03:50", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "Daryl. Thank you. Very nice of you."}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "Merry Christmas to Daryl."}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:03:59", "text": "There's Cronis, longtime friend of hand"}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "of the W House. Poor me. If you're"}, {"start": "02:03:59", "end": "02:04:03", "text": "looking looking pretty fly for a white"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "guy today,"}, {"start": "02:04:03", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "I think that was weird out, right?"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "I'm glad I'm looking fly. I don't even"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:14", "text": "have the the filter on. It's"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:17", "text": "cuz women are on to something with the"}, {"start": "02:04:14", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "skin stuff. I don't know how you you men"}, {"start": "02:04:17", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "are in the chat, but I don't think I I"}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "don't think I owned moisturizer until I"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:32", "text": "So dry is mostly just on my hands and my"}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "like crunchy knuckles"}, {"start": "02:04:32", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "that look like a you know a dried"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "riverbed like that. I know it's kind of"}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "gross but moisturized on the feet"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "because I've got karate feet. You"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "martial artists know what karate feet"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "look like. O. So I never put that stuff"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "on my face. I didn't like the way it"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:53", "text": "felt cuz it's all slimy."}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "But I there was some episode not too"}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "long ago where I was looking at myself"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "and I with Jen. I said, \"Is there"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:01", "text": "anything we can do about this old man in"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "the videos?\" And she's like, \"Yeah, you"}, {"start": "02:05:01", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "can take care of your skin.\" Like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "all right.\" She said, \"We go get get a"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:11", "text": "facial.\" And I was like, \"Facial?"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "What?\" After the facial, what do we go"}, {"start": "02:05:11", "end": "02:05:15", "text": "shopping for? Shoes and I get makeup."}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:17", "text": "And next thing you know, I'm wearing"}, {"start": "02:05:15", "end": "02:05:19", "text": "high heels. No offense if you're into"}, {"start": "02:05:17", "end": "02:05:20", "text": "that stuff. I'm not here to kink shame."}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "I was just kind of making a joke. I'm"}, {"start": "02:05:20", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "Gen X. I don't care. Um,"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "she's like, \"No, go do it. See how you"}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "like it.\" And I went there and did it."}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "Super painful. Super painful. So, I"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:35", "text": "mean, they give you Xanax before you do"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "it. You know, they basically burn your"}, {"start": "02:05:35", "end": "02:05:40", "text": "skin off. Uh, but after it healed in a"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:42", "text": "few days, and they give you like this"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:43", "text": "special goop to put on there morning and"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "night, I just said, \"You know what? I'm"}, {"start": "02:05:43", "end": "02:05:48", "text": "going to do it. It's working.\" And so"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:52", "text": "after we came home, she said, \"So what"}, {"start": "02:05:48", "end": "02:05:53", "text": "do you think?\" I said, I said, \"How many"}, {"start": "02:05:52", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "treatments are in a pack?\" She said,"}, {"start": "02:05:53", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "\"Four.\" I said, \"Let's do it."}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:06:01", "text": "Book me.\" Really? Yep. Book me. So now"}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "for the once a month for the next few"}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "months, I got to go get my face tore up,"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:09", "text": "but maybe I could stay smooth and get"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:11", "text": "rid of the old man turkey neck."}, {"start": "02:06:09", "end": "02:06:13", "text": "It's hard getting old. It's hard getting"}, {"start": "02:06:11", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "old. And"}, {"start": "02:06:13", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:22", "text": "a lot of people watch the show on a big"}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "TV. And look at how close I sit."}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "So that old face is so big. Every eye"}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "bag I could see. I see all of it. Like"}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "oh no."}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "So we we we get that we get that fixed."}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:39", "text": "Working on it."}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:40", "text": "I I know there's going to become a point"}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:43", "text": "where there's nothing no goop you can"}, {"start": "02:06:40", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "spread on there to hide the age, but"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "I'm going to hang on there as long as I"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "can. Jason, thank you for the five"}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "bucks. Merry Christmas to you and yours."}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "I see we got a bunch of new members. We"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:58", "text": "have members"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "uh gifting memberships, which is very"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "nice of you guys to do. If you if if"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "you'd rather spread the love than send a"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "super chat and just send some um YouTube"}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:07", "text": "memberships, go ahead and do that."}, {"start": "02:07:05", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "That's fine with me."}, {"start": "02:07:07", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "Uh, and but"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:15", "text": "people are here. Here come the team. But"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:18", "text": "I have to be totally honest about the"}, {"start": "02:07:15", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "YouTube memberships. It's mostly just to"}, {"start": "02:07:18", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "get coupon code to the store and you get"}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "10% off everything. That's everything in"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:27", "text": "the store is 10% off. Uh, Victoria hates"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "that because I think we lose money on"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:30", "text": "the shirts, but that's fine. That's"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "fine. Um,"}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:34", "text": "so there's not a lot of extra content on"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "there. I'll put a little bit on there,"}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:37", "text": "but the extra content goes to the"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "Patreon members, which again is three"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "bucks a month. And Patreon members also"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:43", "text": "get coupon codes and they get merch"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:45", "text": "early. So, it's a great way to support"}, {"start": "02:07:43", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "the channel. It's the best way. But"}, {"start": "02:07:45", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "that's just being totally honest about"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:53", "text": "the YouTube membership. It's really just"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "to give you the discount code. And that"}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "$3 a month from the memberships, I don't"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "keep it. I give it to the team."}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:07:59", "text": "Everybody in the team gets it. Did you"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "guys see my Christmas message? I hope it"}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:04", "text": "wasn't too"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "I don't know sappy."}, {"start": "02:08:04", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "But uh but that interaction I had with"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:12", "text": "the garbage man was very very touching"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "to me. You it like I cuz I learned his"}, {"start": "02:08:12", "end": "02:08:19", "text": "whole story and just that exchange"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:22", "text": "with how with how confused and surprised"}, {"start": "02:08:19", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "he was that uh that someone would come"}, {"start": "02:08:22", "end": "02:08:28", "text": "out and and uh and take care of him for"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:30", "text": "Christmas. And that made me so sad"}, {"start": "02:08:28", "end": "02:08:33", "text": "because back back in New York that it"}, {"start": "02:08:30", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "was sort of common, you know, the the"}, {"start": "02:08:33", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "mailman would always get an envelope."}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:39", "text": "Um, and look, when they tell you, \"Look,"}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "we can't take this, you figure out a way"}, {"start": "02:08:39", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "to get there.\" So, yeah, I hope you"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "watch that message. And it basically"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "comes down to this. You know, if you're"}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:51", "text": "if if you're doing okay, especially if"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "you're doing well in life, take care of"}, {"start": "02:08:51", "end": "02:08:54", "text": "the people who took care of you all"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:57", "text": "year, who picked up your trash, who"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:59", "text": "bring your mail, who the UPS guy here,"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "my UPS guy is the best. He so he was he"}, {"start": "02:08:59", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "worked yesterday and it was pouring"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "freezing rain and he he came up here and"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:08", "text": "he's like and I heard him and he's like"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:10", "text": "stacking the boxes under the awning like"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:12", "text": "being so careful so they won't get wet."}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:14", "text": "So, I ran out there, took the boxes, and"}, {"start": "02:09:12", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "I gave him another another Christmas"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "tip. And he's like, \"Man, again, I"}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "said,\"You're just the best. You are just"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "the best.\" And it goes a long way. Take"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "care of the people. Take care of you."}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "And it comes back around because another"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "part of that message is you don't know"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "what life is going to be like in a year"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:33", "text": "because I've had so many ups and downs."}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "You know, been broke and then not broke"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:37", "text": "and then broke a few times over and"}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:40", "text": "over. as recently as just when the"}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "channel was starting, I was broke."}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:44", "text": "And when you're down, those people you"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:45", "text": "took care of will step up and take care"}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "of you. They will cuz that's just how we"}, {"start": "02:09:45", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "are. So that's that message. So now you"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "don't have to watch the video on that"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "cuz that's basically it. That three"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:56", "text": "minute uh rundown that covers the"}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "15-minute video. Robert Chav with the Ho"}, {"start": "02:09:56", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "Hos"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:04", "text": "made my stomach grow. I love me a ho ho."}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "Love me a ho ho. And the pastries are"}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "good, too."}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "MK Nightmare very reliable. Merry"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "Christmas to you, my friend."}, {"start": "02:10:14", "end": "02:10:18", "text": ">> That's me on the YouTube."}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "I don't know if I can do it."}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:36", "text": "Oh no, I need"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:45", "text": ">> He hasn't got enough. MK Nightmare 2024."}, {"start": "02:10:43", "end": "02:10:47", "text": "Merry Christmas to the Wiles family."}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:50", "text": "Thank you, my friend. MK very reliable"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "supporter the channel."}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:54", "text": "Anthony, hey, when we get the W files"}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:55", "text": "action figures, we had the YouTubes up"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:10:59", "text": "there for a while, but I hated those"}, {"start": "02:10:55", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "because I don't like my face on stuff."}, {"start": "02:10:59", "end": "02:11:04", "text": "It feels really I don't know. I I don't"}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:06", "text": "want to be that guy. Put my face on"}, {"start": "02:11:04", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "things"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:11", "text": "like uh my reps with the basement. They"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:13", "text": "said, \"No, you need to call it AJ Agent"}, {"start": "02:11:11", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "Teal's"}, {"start": "02:11:13", "end": "02:11:16", "text": "basement podcast or something like"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "that.\" I was like, \"I'm not doing that."}, {"start": "02:11:16", "end": "02:11:19", "text": "I'm not putting my name in it.\" They"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:22", "text": "said, \"If you don't, if you put your"}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "name in it, that will make you more of a"}, {"start": "02:11:22", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "brand and will bring more people over to"}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:28", "text": "everything.\" And I said, \"I don't care"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "about it that much. It seems a little"}, {"start": "02:11:28", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "pretentious."}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "And they were like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:38", "text": "we well we told you.\" Just seems"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:40", "text": "pretentious. So, but we had the"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "YouTubes, which is a little doll of me"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "with the orange glasses holding a"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "fishbowl. And I think we're sold out."}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "I'm not sure. We may do those again"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:53", "text": "because uh I have a super fun commercial"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "that I just haven't edited yet that goes"}, {"start": "02:11:53", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "with those. So, if we do release more of"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "those little YouTube's dolls or"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:02", "text": "something like that, I will uh I'll"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "release that that commercial. That's the"}, {"start": "02:12:02", "end": "02:12:06", "text": "only reason I want the dolls is because"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "I want you to see the commercial."}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "Um, some some people were asking last"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "time on the Actor Files for cuz we have"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "the hecklefish plushy. They so they"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:15", "text": "wanted a plushy of me and I said there's"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:16", "text": "no way I'm doing that because I don't"}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "want to be anybody's I don't want to be"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:20", "text": "a doll to anybody because first of all,"}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:22", "text": "I don't know what you're going to do to"}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "me. Uh, I don't want to think about it"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:25", "text": "and I don't know who does voodoo. I"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "don't want to be a voodoo doll that"}, {"start": "02:12:25", "end": "02:12:29", "text": "suddenly I'm walking down the street and"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "you know I I'm I'm seizing. I'm having"}, {"start": "02:12:29", "end": "02:12:33", "text": "I'm feeling pains because you're"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "sticking needles in me."}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "So no no AJ plushy."}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "Oh, my boy is screaming."}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:46", "text": "My buddy's screaming because he knows"}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "I'm in here and I have the I have the"}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "door shut."}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "I know, sweet boy. I just need three"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:58", "text": "more hours."}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:58", "text": "Uh, merry Christmas to you, THX."}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:02", "text": "Uh, criminal, have you thought about"}, {"start": "02:13:01", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "revisiting past episodes with new"}, {"start": "02:13:02", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "information?"}, {"start": "02:13:09", "end": "02:13:16", "text": "Is because Oh, I'm having internet"}, {"start": "02:13:11", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "issues. So, if I drop, just give me 30"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": "seconds to fix it because I know what"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "the problem is. So, the Count of St."}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "Germaine, if you watch the old ones, you"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:25", "text": "can watch the new one will still be"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "entertaining because there is new"}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "information in there. But the problem"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:31", "text": "with the first one was I split it into"}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "two parts. This is when the channel was"}, {"start": "02:13:31", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "very new. This is a very early episode."}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "So I told the Count Germaine this St."}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:41", "text": "Germaine's story and and then I did the"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "debunk analysis in a in a part two"}, {"start": "02:13:41", "end": "02:13:44", "text": "because I was so insecure with all the"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:46", "text": "comments about how I was how I was"}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:47", "text": "ruining stories with the analysis. I"}, {"start": "02:13:46", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "said, \"You know what? I'll do it in two"}, {"start": "02:13:47", "end": "02:13:51", "text": "parts and then if they want to watch the"}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:53", "text": "second one, they can do that. But what"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "happened was because you don't really"}, {"start": "02:13:53", "end": "02:13:59", "text": "know how YouTube's going to present the"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:01", "text": "episodes to your subscribers. So I I"}, {"start": "02:13:59", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "released them at the same time so you"}, {"start": "02:14:01", "end": "02:14:05", "text": "can watch one and two or however you"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "wanted to do it. But some people in"}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:09", "text": "their feed, they were getting part two"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:11", "text": "first. They were like, \"This is weird."}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "What happened?\" I'm like, \"No, no, no."}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "There's a first part.\" And some people"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:15", "text": "were just getting part one and didn't"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:17", "text": "know there was a part two. So, they were"}, {"start": "02:14:15", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "saying, \"That was kind of weird. You"}, {"start": "02:14:17", "end": "02:14:20", "text": "didn't debunk anything.\" So, it was a"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "mistake. That was the last time I did a"}, {"start": "02:14:20", "end": "02:14:24", "text": "two-parter. And I'm going to go back and"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "I'm going to revisit a couple of other"}, {"start": "02:14:24", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "ones. If there were favorites that you'd"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:31", "text": "like to see redone, you know, and"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:32", "text": "expanded, let me know. Like simulation"}, {"start": "02:14:31", "end": "02:14:35", "text": "theory. I'd like to expand that a little"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:37", "text": "bit more."}, {"start": "02:14:35", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "Leonor, I've never covered anything"}, {"start": "02:14:37", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "about the Poltergeist movies."}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "Oh, those are so scary. I mean, I have"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "some some conspiracies about those"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:48", "text": "movies, but I don't think they're"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:48", "text": "familyfriendly."}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "GM Unway 420, how about Zahi Has? How"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "about him? Covered him two weeks ago."}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "Thoughts on the Phoenix Lights? That's"}, {"start": "02:15:02", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "um that's not a debunkable story because"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:10", "text": "everybody saw it. Um that's one that's"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:12", "text": "requested a lot."}, {"start": "02:15:10", "end": "02:15:15", "text": "I might do it as um I have a new format"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:17", "text": "coming out called a campfire story and"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "that's going to be just telling the"}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "story without the debunk, without the"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "analysis and type seven, eight minutes."}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "And they're mostly going to be spooky"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "stories, you know, stories that you tell"}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:29", "text": "about around the campfire. Like I think"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "the first one I'm doing is is the guy"}, {"start": "02:15:29", "end": "02:15:33", "text": "who died in the Amtrak train in in"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:36", "text": "California."}, {"start": "02:15:33", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "And after he died,"}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "his cell phone or him, he was he called"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:45", "text": "all of his loved ones for like 6 hours,"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "made 35 phone calls, and the uh the"}, {"start": "02:15:45", "end": "02:15:48", "text": "rescuers used those phone calls to"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:51", "text": "triangulate his position in the wreck,"}, {"start": "02:15:48", "end": "02:15:53", "text": "and they found him, but they never found"}, {"start": "02:15:51", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "his phone, even though they that's how"}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:59", "text": "they found him. And uh and then once"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:01", "text": "they found his body, the phone call"}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:03", "text": "stopped, which that story always kind of"}, {"start": "02:16:01", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "gave me chills. So, the campfires are"}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:07", "text": "going to be a lot like that. And I"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:09", "text": "thought maybe Phoenix Lights would be a"}, {"start": "02:16:07", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "good campfire story because there's not"}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "really a lot of debunk, but we can show"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "the videos. We can talk about it a"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "I think it was probably an experimental"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:22", "text": "aircraft."}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:24", "text": "Maybe a derigible like a big old blimp"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:28", "text": "because it was moving kind of slow. But,"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:30", "text": "I mean, everybody saw it."}, {"start": "02:16:28", "end": "02:16:32", "text": "It wasn't just Phoenix. They saw it all"}, {"start": "02:16:30", "end": "02:16:36", "text": "over the west part of the country. I"}, {"start": "02:16:32", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "forget where it stopped."}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:43", "text": "Hey Shers, love you too. JS likes the"}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:43", "text": "channel. Good to see you JS."}, {"start": "02:16:43", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "I am debate and shouting shows are"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "outdated and only serve to smash open"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:52", "text": "the doors to consensus. I tend to agree."}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "Debate and shouting shows it feels like"}, {"start": "02:16:52", "end": "02:16:57", "text": "cable news to me. I don't want to do"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:16:59", "text": "that. There's no reason to. You know,"}, {"start": "02:16:57", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "the only people that I go after are guys"}, {"start": "02:16:59", "end": "02:17:06", "text": "like Corey Good. Now, if he was a nice"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:08", "text": "guy, it would be different, but I don't"}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "like stolen valor. So, when he says he"}, {"start": "02:17:08", "end": "02:17:14", "text": "was a Marine and he wasn't,"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "no bueno. Then you're a target for me."}, {"start": "02:17:14", "end": "02:17:19", "text": "Whether you're alive or not, you're a"}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "target for me. But if you're cool, Billy"}, {"start": "02:17:19", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "Billy Carson seems cool. You know, I saw"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "him on Rogan. He was he was very"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "engaging. He was very likable. So, let's"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "let him tell his story."}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "No reason for me to be a jerk. So, if"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "there's someone like Corey that I know,"}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "because we'll do the research, that I"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "know is a liar, I'm not going to even"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "bother having him on. Not no reason to"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "tell his story."}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:47", "text": "Michael, hey. Hey, just got the Patreon"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:49", "text": "as a Christmas gift from the wife."}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "That's a good woman. Super excited to be"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "be part of the wife house. Make sure you"}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:17:55", "text": "get on the on if you hop on Discord."}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "Victoria announces in the Patreon feed"}, {"start": "02:17:55", "end": "02:17:59", "text": "when we do the uh the AMAs, the live"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:02", "text": "AMAs, but make sure you check those out"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:04", "text": "because if you like this,"}, {"start": "02:18:02", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "we can get to you can talk directly to"}, {"start": "02:18:04", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "me like right to my face and then I can"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "see your face. I like to get a look at"}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "you."}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "The fool who called says, \"Wolf, a NASA"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "astronaut a liar about going to the moon"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "made me want to crawl through the"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "screen.\" Are you talking about Bart"}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "Crell? Bart Crell?"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "Yeah, there's no reason to do that."}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "Look, if if you have doubts about the"}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "moon landing, which I do, and I express"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:33", "text": "those, then have those doubts. But if"}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "I'm"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "But an astronaut is an American hero."}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:42", "text": "Why Why call him a liar?"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:45", "text": "Mumble. You like the bar? It's nothing"}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:47", "text": "fancy. I think it looks fancier on the"}, {"start": "02:18:45", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "screen because I have the cool lights"}, {"start": "02:18:47", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "going."}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:57", "text": "Hold on. It says team beaver."}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "Team beaver has team beaver's entered"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "the stage."}, {"start": "02:18:59", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "Oh, that's Victoria."}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "There's Neil. There's Jen. There's"}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:09", "text": "Hybrid."}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:11", "text": "They've invaded my home. The Beavers."}, {"start": "02:19:09", "end": "02:19:13", "text": ">> Team Beaver. Hashtag team. Do we have Do"}, {"start": "02:19:11", "end": "02:19:15", "text": "we have team beaver shirts?"}, {"start": "02:19:13", "end": "02:19:17", "text": ">> We could put them up."}, {"start": "02:19:15", "end": "02:19:18", "text": ">> And Gino Claus has also entered the"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "chat."}, {"start": "02:19:18", "end": "02:19:21", "text": ">> Genocaus. Genocaus."}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:23", "text": ">> Here's Gino Claus. I'm glad you guys are"}, {"start": "02:19:21", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "here because I have to sneeze."}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:28", "text": ">> I would love that if that was my"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:28", "text": "favorite."}, {"start": "02:19:30", "end": "02:19:36", "text": ">> Oh, it might be tight to time to take my"}, {"start": "02:19:32", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "medicine is why. Hang on."}, {"start": "02:19:38", "end": "02:19:42", "text": ">> Merry Christmas, Gino. Oh, you're"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "putting on your sweater."}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:48", "text": ">> As I was doing this,"}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:48", "text": ">> hello everyone."}, {"start": "02:19:49", "end": "02:19:53", "text": ">> And now I don't know how"}, {"start": "02:19:51", "end": "02:19:55", "text": "Did you do that in front of the camera?"}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:19:59", "text": ">> No, I didn't. Was my camera on?"}, {"start": "02:19:55", "end": "02:20:00", "text": ">> I looked just like a Gino. Mary Fish"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "like um"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:07", "text": ">> Gino and there's Sabrina."}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:07", "text": "Is there Gino story hour today or no?"}, {"start": "02:20:08", "end": "02:20:12", "text": ">> All right, Victoria, I'm going to drop"}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:14", "text": "you down because my wife's loud."}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:18", "text": ">> There she go. You got a Chino story hour"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "for us today or no?"}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "No audio,"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "right? He'll get that audio going in the"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "meanwhile."}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:33", "text": "We'll get a couple super chats up there."}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "Thank you again, 753. Appreciate you,"}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:37", "text": "Sergees. Those glasses are for the Van"}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:39", "text": "Allen belt. I think they will uh keep"}, {"start": "02:20:37", "end": "02:20:42", "text": "the particles, the high-speed particles"}, {"start": "02:20:39", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "out of my face. Ah, go experiencing"}, {"start": "02:20:42", "end": "02:20:44", "text": "technical difficulties. I understand"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:47", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:20:44", "end": "02:20:50", "text": ">> You think this passes for a live stream?"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:50", "text": "Think again."}, {"start": "02:20:50", "end": "02:20:55", "text": "Uh Bernie, yes, I love the Christmas"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "version. Please do it again. Which one?"}, {"start": "02:20:55", "end": "02:21:00", "text": "This is from"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:02", "text": "uh that these super chats are from just"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "after 100 p.m. That's how far behind I"}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "am."}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "But uh whenever a woman askked me to do"}, {"start": "02:21:07", "end": "02:21:13", "text": "it again, I always oblige."}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "Malorie 4748 for 20. Merry Christmas"}, {"start": "02:21:13", "end": "02:21:18", "text": "from Tim and Maul. Mal Maul."}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:21", "text": "Merry Christmas to you. Thank you for"}, {"start": "02:21:18", "end": "02:21:24", "text": "the 20."}, {"start": "02:21:21", "end": "02:21:26", "text": "Scott, make yourself a drink."}, {"start": "02:21:24", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "No, not yet. I don't like to be buzzed"}, {"start": "02:21:26", "end": "02:21:33", "text": "on the on the streams. It's not a good"}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "look. Plus, um I'm a fun drunk,"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:39", "text": "which means I get a little wacky and my"}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "my filter"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "doesn't really work. So those a lot of"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:46", "text": "those jokes that would be inappropriate"}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "or even offensive,"}, {"start": "02:21:46", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "they just come out. So we don't need any"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "of that."}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "Uh Anthony with the action figures. I'm"}, {"start": "02:21:57", "end": "02:22:01", "text": "just trying to catch up."}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:04", "text": "Sid, I'm very curious on the new"}, {"start": "02:22:01", "end": "02:22:06", "text": "Disclosure Day disclosure day trailer."}, {"start": "02:22:04", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "What you make of the clicking sound? I"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "haven't seen that yet, said Artha. I did"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:10", "text": "not like the other Disclosure"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "documentary. I thought it was very"}, {"start": "02:22:10", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "upsetting actually,"}, {"start": "02:22:15", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "but uh I'll look for that new trailer."}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "Jeffrey, our telepathic abilities are"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:23", "text": "the heavenly father telling us what it"}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "is. I hope you're right. I don't know if"}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "you are, but I hope you're right. Merry"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:30", "text": "Christmas to you. Quote a go. Michael"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "Miller, Chris Bledsoe, I believe we have"}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:34", "text": "coming in. I think I think Gino booked"}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "him. You booked. We have Bledo coming"}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "in, Gino. Thumbs up."}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "You got a a story hour today or no?"}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:48", "text": "So, so you're going to give it a shot?"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "It's not a professional oper. You want"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "me to bring you up? He got the mic. He"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "got the mic going. There he goes."}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:59", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:22:59", "text": "Nope."}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:04", "text": "Okay, drop the stuff down. Hello from"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:07", "text": "Norway, says Kristen Larson. That is a"}, {"start": "02:23:04", "end": "02:23:09", "text": "Norwegian name. I appreciate you."}, {"start": "02:23:07", "end": "02:23:13", "text": "Yeah. Um, Colonel, if there are past"}, {"start": "02:23:09", "end": "02:23:13", "text": "episodes you'd like to see, let me know."}, {"start": "02:23:16", "end": "02:23:22", "text": "MK Nightmare Bourbon. Wee. Oh, we just"}, {"start": "02:23:19", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "got the CrabCat bourbon approved. So,"}, {"start": "02:23:22", "end": "02:23:26", "text": "that's going to be coming to the store"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:28", "text": "soon for you bourbon drinkers. I think"}, {"start": "02:23:26", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "it's going to be $35."}, {"start": "02:23:28", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "Uh, I had a sample the other day. It's"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:40", "text": "high proof. 105 proof."}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "And uh it's good. It's good. It's fire"}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:46", "text": "water. So that's that's crabcat whiskey"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:46", "text": "coming very very soon."}, {"start": "02:23:47", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "Uh Scandinavian when they talk about"}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:51", "text": "building 7 referring to 911 conspiracy."}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "I absolutely will. Now that Tucker's"}, {"start": "02:23:51", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "covered it, building 7 doesn't make any"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:23:59", "text": "kind of sense to me"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:01", "text": "that"}, {"start": "02:23:59", "end": "02:24:04", "text": "to me that's 90% is a controlled"}, {"start": "02:24:01", "end": "02:24:07", "text": "demolition. the and the 10 percent that"}, {"start": "02:24:04", "end": "02:24:10", "text": "I leave for the mainstream argument is"}, {"start": "02:24:07", "end": "02:24:13", "text": "mostly just out of respect for the"}, {"start": "02:24:10", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "victims and such. But as a New Yorker"}, {"start": "02:24:13", "end": "02:24:18", "text": "who was there"}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:21", "text": "with clients down there during that"}, {"start": "02:24:18", "end": "02:24:25", "text": "time, I feel like I can talk about 9/11"}, {"start": "02:24:21", "end": "02:24:30", "text": "from a from a certain viewpoint because"}, {"start": "02:24:25", "end": "02:24:32", "text": "my emotions about that day are sincere."}, {"start": "02:24:30", "end": "02:24:34", "text": "You know, I I remember the smell of the"}, {"start": "02:24:32", "end": "02:24:36", "text": "city and Gino and I had clients down"}, {"start": "02:24:34", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "there. I we were we had a meeting"}, {"start": "02:24:36", "end": "02:24:39", "text": "scheduled not for not for in World"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:42", "text": "Trade, but for right there that day that"}, {"start": "02:24:39", "end": "02:24:44", "text": "for some reason got moved. And so many"}, {"start": "02:24:42", "end": "02:24:48", "text": "people have that same story. But what I"}, {"start": "02:24:44", "end": "02:24:50", "text": "will always remember is the smell. And"}, {"start": "02:24:48", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "for about a month, every time you would"}, {"start": "02:24:50", "end": "02:24:55", "text": "get in your car, you would have to dust"}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "off the ash. And you would just do that"}, {"start": "02:24:55", "end": "02:24:59", "text": "and you do that. And then at one point"}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:02", "text": "it hit me like these these are the"}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "remains of people that have just that"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:06", "text": "are just over everything. The whole city"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "was covered in in white ash to the"}, {"start": "02:25:06", "end": "02:25:11", "text": "remains of the building and the people"}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:13", "text": "in them and uh in lower Manhattan just"}, {"start": "02:25:11", "end": "02:25:16", "text": "military vehicles and and military"}, {"start": "02:25:13", "end": "02:25:19", "text": "checkpoints."}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:21", "text": "It was it was surreal."}, {"start": "02:25:19", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "And because I was there I think I think"}, {"start": "02:25:21", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "I'm allowed to talk about it."}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:30", "text": "Blues cast as building 7 puts the entire"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:30", "text": "narrative in question. No doubt"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:38", "text": "I saw some There we go. DJ Hollanda"}, {"start": "02:25:38", "end": "02:25:43", "text": "there were a Dutch expert live on TV"}, {"start": "02:25:40", "end": "02:25:47", "text": "saying it's control demolition and he"}, {"start": "02:25:43", "end": "02:25:47", "text": "died in a weird accident."}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:52", "text": "is I believe that,"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "you know, I I wonder what kind of"}, {"start": "02:25:52", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "security Tucker has because some of his"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "stuff is like is I I wouldn't say it,"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "you know. I don't talk about MSAD on the"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "show. Oh, sir."}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:11", "text": "C. Yeah, fine. Msad, not so much."}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:12", "text": "Pea Pete, I generally don't like"}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "American bourbon. Interested in trying"}, {"start": "02:26:12", "end": "02:26:17", "text": "it though."}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:20", "text": "Just so you know, bourbon is only"}, {"start": "02:26:17", "end": "02:26:22", "text": "American from Kentucky. So if you're"}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:25", "text": "drinking non-American bourbon, that's"}, {"start": "02:26:22", "end": "02:26:27", "text": "just whiskey. Probably sour mash whiskey"}, {"start": "02:26:25", "end": "02:26:29", "text": "or something like that. Bourbon is"}, {"start": "02:26:27", "end": "02:26:31", "text": "Kentucky bourbon. It's like champagne."}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:35", "text": "Champagne's only from Champagne, France,"}, {"start": "02:26:31", "end": "02:26:37", "text": "right? But you got sparkling wines and"}, {"start": "02:26:35", "end": "02:26:39", "text": "brutes and stuff, but champagne is only"}, {"start": "02:26:37", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "from that region. So, and Kucky's very"}, {"start": "02:26:39", "end": "02:26:43", "text": "serious about their bourbons."}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "You guys ever been to the Bourbon"}, {"start": "02:26:43", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "Festival down in Kentucky?"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "Amber says, \"No one knows about building"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:54", "text": "seven. There's zero reason it fell."}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:56", "text": "Actually, many moons ago, Zeitgeist the"}, {"start": "02:26:54", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "movie started me down some rabbit holes"}, {"start": "02:26:56", "end": "02:27:02", "text": "and religion."}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:02", "text": ">> I need a wide opener.\""}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:07", "text": ">> The team"}, {"start": "02:27:09", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "will fix me up a little something there."}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:16", "text": "It's quarter to three. There's no one in"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "the place. So, it should be right there"}, {"start": "02:27:16", "end": "02:27:20", "text": "to the left of the sink. But you and me."}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:20", "text": ">> Should we make some?"}, {"start": "02:27:20", "end": "02:27:21", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "02:27:20", "end": "02:27:23", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:26", "text": ">> So, set them up, Joe."}, {"start": "02:27:23", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "I've got a little story. You Okay, we"}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "got it. You ought to know."}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:36", "text": "I tell you a lot,"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:38", "text": "but there's got"}, {"start": "02:27:36", "end": "02:27:41", "text": "All right. Well, there she goes."}, {"start": "02:27:38", "end": "02:27:41", "text": ">> There she goes."}, {"start": "02:27:43", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "And it's only because I'm an old radio"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "guy."}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:53", "text": "So I had this I got to keep it moving."}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "Then she just wants to hang out and be"}, {"start": "02:27:53", "end": "02:27:58", "text": "affable and she is. Everybody loves Jen,"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "but I want to keep it moving. You know,"}, {"start": "02:27:58", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "like if like if Gino starts to ramble,"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "I go,"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:05", "text": ">> which I do,"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:07", "text": ">> which you do. All right. Now we hear you"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:10", "text": "loud and clear. Five by five by five"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:12", "text": "change."}, {"start": "02:28:10", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "Okay. A few things. I was uh listening"}, {"start": "02:28:12", "end": "02:28:19", "text": "uh on the way over. Um you know, you you"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:21", "text": "mentioned uh James Fox and and you felt"}, {"start": "02:28:19", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "like maybe there was some debunking in"}, {"start": "02:28:21", "end": "02:28:28", "text": "the Vin case. I I he has a a new movie"}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "coming out which is a follow-up to that"}, {"start": "02:28:28", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "which focuses mainly on the more"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:36", "text": "credible side of things. the um he now"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:39", "text": "has an interview with the actual surgeon"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "that was in the room with the alien"}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:43", "text": "communicating uh with him"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:44", "text": "telepathically. So really interesting"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:47", "text": "this new new"}, {"start": "02:28:44", "end": "02:28:49", "text": ">> hang on a second Gino because I I agree"}, {"start": "02:28:47", "end": "02:28:52", "text": "with that guy Smith. You're a little too"}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "loud. Turn it down a sea hair."}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:58", "text": ">> Okay, let's see how I do that. Okay,"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:29:00", "text": ">> because I don't think I can do it from"}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "Oh, yes. I Yeah, I can't I can't adjust"}, {"start": "02:29:00", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "your v your volume from here. But but"}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:07", "text": "yeah, you are coming in hot."}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:09", "text": ">> How about now? I went halfway down."}, {"start": "02:29:07", "end": "02:29:11", "text": ">> A little better. Yeah, it's a little"}, {"start": "02:29:09", "end": "02:29:12", "text": "better. What do you guys think? Let Gino"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:14", "text": "know if he's uh if he's a little loud"}, {"start": "02:29:12", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "because now with the background noise, I"}, {"start": "02:29:14", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "think he's gone."}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:19", "text": ">> So I think"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:20", "text": ">> So he's got the surgeon."}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:22", "text": ">> He's got the surgeon. I think the thing"}, {"start": "02:29:20", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "that that we didn't like in the episode"}, {"start": "02:29:22", "end": "02:29:26", "text": "was the young girls who thought they"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:28", "text": "seen something in an alleyway, but they"}, {"start": "02:29:26", "end": "02:29:30", "text": "are not the main witnesses."}, {"start": "02:29:28", "end": "02:29:31", "text": ">> Agreed. you know,"}, {"start": "02:29:30", "end": "02:29:35", "text": ">> and did you hear my whole explanation?"}, {"start": "02:29:31", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "How James had that compelling exchange"}, {"start": "02:29:35", "end": "02:29:39", "text": "with the with the soldier"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:41", "text": ">> who wouldn't talk to him."}, {"start": "02:29:39", "end": "02:29:43", "text": ">> So, I think I think they're on to"}, {"start": "02:29:41", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "something there because I also covered"}, {"start": "02:29:43", "end": "02:29:45", "text": "and I think I took the footage from"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:48", "text": "James"}, {"start": "02:29:45", "end": "02:29:49", "text": ">> um the guy who saw the UFO land and was"}, {"start": "02:29:48", "end": "02:29:50", "text": "crying about it. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:53", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "02:29:50", "end": "02:29:54", "text": ">> hard to fake that. So, the girls I don't"}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:29:57", "text": "really believe, but I think something"}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "did happen down there. And James Fox is"}, {"start": "02:29:57", "end": "02:30:01", "text": "selective about his UFO cases. Am I"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "agreed?"}, {"start": "02:30:01", "end": "02:30:03", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:05", "text": ">> absolutely."}, {"start": "02:30:03", "end": "02:30:06", "text": ">> So, we've talked to the surgeon."}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:07", "text": "Anything else that that you know that's"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:11", "text": "coming out?"}, {"start": "02:30:07", "end": "02:30:12", "text": ">> Uh uh I don't want to give away his his"}, {"start": "02:30:11", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "It's coming out this month, so we're all"}, {"start": "02:30:12", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "going to get to see it. Number one,"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:19", "text": "that's why I wanted to get him booked"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:22", "text": "right away uh for us because uh uh"}, {"start": "02:30:19", "end": "02:30:25", "text": "certainly I I think this is going to be"}, {"start": "02:30:22", "end": "02:30:27", "text": ">> to to me this documentary is something"}, {"start": "02:30:25", "end": "02:30:29", "text": "I'm looking forward to more than age of"}, {"start": "02:30:27", "end": "02:30:32", "text": "disclosure. Like Age of Disclosure is"}, {"start": "02:30:29", "end": "02:30:33", "text": "great, but I like like so many people,"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:36", "text": "it's hard to believe anyone in the"}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:38", "text": "government. So it is it is what it is."}, {"start": "02:30:36", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "It's baby steps. But when you have real"}, {"start": "02:30:38", "end": "02:30:44", "text": "people that are very compelling that you"}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:45", "text": "don't that aren't being paid still by"}, {"start": "02:30:44", "end": "02:30:47", "text": "the government, aren't, you know, that"}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "that are putting their whole reputation"}, {"start": "02:30:47", "end": "02:30:50", "text": "on the line, that that's something I"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:54", "text": "care about. So So I am looking forward"}, {"start": "02:30:50", "end": "02:30:55", "text": "to to James' new um uh uh uh sequel"}, {"start": "02:30:54", "end": "02:30:57", "text": "followup."}, {"start": "02:30:55", "end": "02:30:59", "text": ">> Uh now, as far as as far as uh story"}, {"start": "02:30:57", "end": "02:31:03", "text": "hour, I don't have a story hour for you,"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:05", "text": "but I did put together one thing. Um,"}, {"start": "02:31:03", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "so, uh, uh, I was working with Patrick"}, {"start": "02:31:05", "end": "02:31:11", "text": "Armstrong from Vetted, and we've been"}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:13", "text": "working on, uh, a psionics, um, uh,"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "documentary. It's his his documentary. I"}, {"start": "02:31:13", "end": "02:31:18", "text": "just went along for the ride. Happy to"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "to join him and and and help out. I put"}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:26", "text": "the link to his new, uh, um, documentary"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:28", "text": "um, trailer in the the private chat."}, {"start": "02:31:26", "end": "02:31:31", "text": "Now, while while we were on that"}, {"start": "02:31:28", "end": "02:31:33", "text": "journey, we went down to Sedona,"}, {"start": "02:31:31", "end": "02:31:35", "text": "Arizona, and uh we were doing some"}, {"start": "02:31:33", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "psionics there, and we met up with Ron"}, {"start": "02:31:35", "end": "02:31:40", "text": "James, who's the media director for"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "Muon. Extremely nice guy. Uh"}, {"start": "02:31:40", "end": "02:31:46", "text": ">> I thought he was the porn star."}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:50", "text": ">> Uh that's that's a that's Ron Jeremy."}, {"start": "02:31:46", "end": "02:31:53", "text": ">> Yeah, gotcha. Um so so we went to Ron's"}, {"start": "02:31:50", "end": "02:31:54", "text": "house. We did uh we had a gathering of a"}, {"start": "02:31:53", "end": "02:31:57", "text": "lot of people doing psionics, spoon"}, {"start": "02:31:54", "end": "02:31:59", "text": "bending. really interesting. I'm still"}, {"start": "02:31:57", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "on the fence on on what happened. I I"}, {"start": "02:31:59", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "did see people bending spoons. I was"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:07", "text": "bending a spoon, but I wasn't sure if it"}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:09", "text": "was just my strength or or what. But"}, {"start": "02:32:07", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "this one woman who was next to me, like"}, {"start": "02:32:09", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "I was bending the spoon at the at the"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "neck of the spoon, whatever. She was"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:18", "text": "rolling the spoon up from the top scoop"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "and rolling the spoon."}, {"start": "02:32:18", "end": "02:32:20", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:22", "text": ">> Now, I couldn't do that with all my"}, {"start": "02:32:20", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "strength."}, {"start": "02:32:22", "end": "02:32:26", "text": ">> And I test warm. It didn't. It just felt"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "like a regular spoon. Felt like it was"}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "room temperature. So I I I couldn't"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:34", "text": "figure it out. I held the spoon before"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:36", "text": "she did it. I gave her the spoon. I even"}, {"start": "02:32:34", "end": "02:32:39", "text": "picked a spoon for her to do it to that"}, {"start": "02:32:36", "end": "02:32:39", "text": "I couldn't do it to. So really"}, {"start": "02:32:39", "end": "02:32:41", "text": "interesting stuff."}, {"start": "02:32:39", "end": "02:32:43", "text": ">> We got to bring You got to bring our own"}, {"start": "02:32:41", "end": "02:32:44", "text": "spoon."}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:47", "text": ">> You got to bring one of those thick"}, {"start": "02:32:44", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "thick spoons like from from the Outback"}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:49", "text": "that heavy silverware they give you."}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:51", "text": "Yeah. You got to bring one. See if they"}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:54", "text": "can bend that. Well, you'll see in the"}, {"start": "02:32:51", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "documentary they they lay out a hundred"}, {"start": "02:32:54", "end": "02:32:57", "text": "different spoons that people are"}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:33:00", "text": "choosing from like it's really"}, {"start": "02:32:57", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "interesting. Some are uh fully silvered"}, {"start": "02:33:00", "end": "02:33:04", "text": "uh things like that. So, in the"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:06", "text": "documentary, uh you'll see that. But"}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "while we were at Ron's house, something"}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:11", "text": "interesting happened. And so, I filmed"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:13", "text": "it. It's like a a quick uh three minute"}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "uh uh film. And it's sort of a surprise"}, {"start": "02:33:13", "end": "02:33:19", "text": "for you because it has to do with our"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "childhood. So, if you see down in the uh"}, {"start": "02:33:19", "end": "02:33:25", "text": "below, you'll see uh I got a Ron James"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:28", "text": "thing. It's again really short and uh"}, {"start": "02:33:25", "end": "02:33:32", "text": "interesting and I think it'll spark some"}, {"start": "02:33:28", "end": "02:33:34", "text": "interesting memories for you."}, {"start": "02:33:32", "end": "02:33:36", "text": ">> I definitely would check it out."}, {"start": "02:33:34", "end": "02:33:37", "text": ">> So, is that that what you're bringing"}, {"start": "02:33:36", "end": "02:33:39", "text": "today?"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:41", "text": ">> Yeah. And so, so it's down you you could"}, {"start": "02:33:39", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "play it whenever you're ready. It's down"}, {"start": "02:33:41", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "in the"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:46", "text": ">> below."}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:33:46", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "And then also Yeah. Go ahead."}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:04", "text": ">> Tell me where's"}, {"start": "02:34:08", "end": "02:34:12", "text": "he?"}, {"start": "02:34:11", "end": "02:34:16", "text": ">> Okay. All right."}, {"start": "02:34:12", "end": "02:34:16", "text": ">> Beautiful view."}, {"start": "02:34:18", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "Where's Gino? This time it's Sedona."}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:27", "text": ">> I'm here with Ron James, the media"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:32", "text": "director of Muon. He's also the producer"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:34", "text": "of Accidental Truth and the new film,"}, {"start": "02:34:32", "end": "02:34:36", "text": ">> Accidental Truth Next,"}, {"start": "02:34:34", "end": "02:34:40", "text": ">> coming out. So, what I wanted to show"}, {"start": "02:34:36", "end": "02:34:43", "text": "you was he has this amazing painting in"}, {"start": "02:34:40", "end": "02:34:45", "text": "his house."}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:48", "text": "Maybe a week ago, me and AJ had a"}, {"start": "02:34:45", "end": "02:34:49", "text": "conversation about this exact painting."}, {"start": "02:34:48", "end": "02:34:53", "text": ">> Well, you know, it's interesting that"}, {"start": "02:34:49", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "you bring this up because I as a child"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:34:57", "text": "was exposed to this painting. It's by an"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:34:59", "text": "artist, I think his name's John Petri,"}, {"start": "02:34:57", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "and during the time when we were growing"}, {"start": "02:34:59", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "up, like I was a teenager in the ' 70s."}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "Um, his work was everywhere, these"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:08", "text": "fantastical paintings. And this painting"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:10", "text": "when I was a kid affected me in a very"}, {"start": "02:35:08", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "interesting way. And what it symbolizes"}, {"start": "02:35:10", "end": "02:35:16", "text": "is that the guy and his his Pegasus"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:18", "text": "represents his creativity and they are"}, {"start": "02:35:16", "end": "02:35:21", "text": "bound to the earth. You can see they're"}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "being chained down and they can't they"}, {"start": "02:35:21", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "can't escape their earthly bounds and he"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "is reaching up to he's pointing up and"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:31", "text": "that's his higher self that's up here in"}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:34", "text": "the clouds and he's reaching out to them"}, {"start": "02:35:31", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "asking to to be rescued. And so you know"}, {"start": "02:35:34", "end": "02:35:38", "text": "all of us creative artists"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "feel this way. You know, it's like this"}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "guy is an angelic presence, but he's"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:45", "text": "bound. And that's what happens a lot of"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "times to artists here on the planet. And"}, {"start": "02:35:45", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "so I found this in a thrift store years"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:52", "text": "later, obviously, a lot of years. And um"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "it just struck all those childhood"}, {"start": "02:35:52", "end": "02:35:57", "text": "memories and I bought it and put it"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:57", "text": "right here in a prominent spot."}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:06", "text": ">> Restrictions."}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:10", "text": ">> So restrictions represents each and"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:13", "text": "every one of us."}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "The mythical winged horse is symbolic of"}, {"start": "02:36:13", "end": "02:36:20", "text": "the vehicles we choose to ride through"}, {"start": "02:36:15", "end": "02:36:21", "text": "life. Our occupations, goals, loves, and"}, {"start": "02:36:20", "end": "02:36:22", "text": "dreams."}, {"start": "02:36:21", "end": "02:36:24", "text": ">> Here goes my copyright strike."}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:26", "text": ">> The silver ropes tethering us to earth"}, {"start": "02:36:24", "end": "02:36:31", "text": "are the restrictions placed on us in"}, {"start": "02:36:26", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "life. Physical, financial, social."}, {"start": "02:36:31", "end": "02:36:36", "text": "For each of us, these restrictions are"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "different."}, {"start": "02:36:36", "end": "02:36:40", "text": "temporarily preventing us from flying"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:43", "text": "without limitations to embrace our"}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "dreams and goals."}, {"start": "02:36:43", "end": "02:36:49", "text": "The writer looks skyward with hope and"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:53", "text": "optimism toward an image of himself free"}, {"start": "02:36:49", "end": "02:36:53", "text": "and unencumbered."}, {"start": "02:37:12", "end": "02:37:16", "text": "Well, there's some editing there as"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:17", "text": "well."}, {"start": "02:37:16", "end": "02:37:18", "text": ">> Some very basic editing I did last"}, {"start": "02:37:17", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "night. Um,"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:21", "text": ">> that's all right."}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:23", "text": ">> But now you got to"}, {"start": "02:37:21", "end": "02:37:24", "text": ">> we got to explain to the audience why"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:26", "text": "that's significant."}, {"start": "02:37:24", "end": "02:37:29", "text": ">> Go ahead."}, {"start": "02:37:26", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "So as as children um our our parents"}, {"start": "02:37:29", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "were were divorced and uh uh you know"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:38", "text": "when we were very young and then after"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:41", "text": "they were divorced our our dad had to um"}, {"start": "02:37:38", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "you know uh uh decorate his own home and"}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:47", "text": "one of the things that went up was this"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:50", "text": "exact painting and I hadn't me hadn't"}, {"start": "02:37:47", "end": "02:37:52", "text": "thought about it for years and years 40"}, {"start": "02:37:50", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "years or so till AJ brought it up uh you"}, {"start": "02:37:52", "end": "02:37:57", "text": "know the other day like two months ago."}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "now. And he said, \"You remember that"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "that painting? What what would have made"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:05", "text": "our father decide to put this weird"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:07", "text": "painting?\" And um I I didn't even again"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:09", "text": "I I didn't think it was a famous"}, {"start": "02:38:07", "end": "02:38:12", "text": "painting or anything like that. And to"}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "walk into to Ron's house and to see it"}, {"start": "02:38:12", "end": "02:38:16", "text": "just in the I mean in this prominent"}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "position in his house really tied the"}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "room together. Um it was just just"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:26", "text": "amazing. So, uh, so again, uh, it is"}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:28", "text": "John Petri if anyone cares. And that's"}, {"start": "02:38:26", "end": "02:38:31", "text": "the ending there came directly from John"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:33", "text": "Petri's, um, YouTube."}, {"start": "02:38:31", "end": "02:38:36", "text": ">> Oh, okay. Well, I'm going to buy a print"}, {"start": "02:38:33", "end": "02:38:39", "text": "of it for sure."}, {"start": "02:38:36", "end": "02:38:42", "text": ">> Yeah. So, John Petri.com. So, and again,"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:44", "text": "we were on on that psionics journey when"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:47", "text": "we went over to Ron's house. Ron is a"}, {"start": "02:38:44", "end": "02:38:49", "text": "great guy. Um, you know, he's he's"}, {"start": "02:38:47", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "knocking he's also a guy knocking on"}, {"start": "02:38:49", "end": "02:38:55", "text": "doors at Congress trying to get answers."}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:39:00", "text": "Um, everyone should check out out um uh"}, {"start": "02:38:55", "end": "02:39:01", "text": "his work as well. And um and again uh uh"}, {"start": "02:39:00", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "hopefully uh I could do more work with"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:07", "text": "Muon and and Ron. Um"}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:09", "text": ">> now now now Muon getting some push back"}, {"start": "02:39:07", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "in the chat saying you should get away"}, {"start": "02:39:09", "end": "02:39:15", "text": "from them, but I don't know. Maybe we"}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:17", "text": "have you as a as a plant in there."}, {"start": "02:39:15", "end": "02:39:19", "text": "Well, you you could say get away from"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:22", "text": "them. Uh, but every Here's the thing. I"}, {"start": "02:39:19", "end": "02:39:25", "text": "want all of the info. Um, so give me"}, {"start": "02:39:22", "end": "02:39:27", "text": "let's let's research and look at all of"}, {"start": "02:39:25", "end": "02:39:29", "text": "the info and then decide for ourselves"}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:30", "text": "what's real and what's not. I mean, we"}, {"start": "02:39:29", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "have guys like Lou Alzando who's"}, {"start": "02:39:30", "end": "02:39:34", "text": "supposed to be trustworthy who's showing"}, {"start": "02:39:32", "end": "02:39:36", "text": "fake pictures. So, you got to take"}, {"start": "02:39:34", "end": "02:39:39", "text": "everything with a grain of salt. There's"}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:42", "text": "no one you should trust. Trust no one."}, {"start": "02:39:39", "end": "02:39:44", "text": "and uh you know, but still get the info,"}, {"start": "02:39:42", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "you know, totally just like you"}, {"start": "02:39:44", "end": "02:39:46", "text": ">> just like you were saying with what"}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:48", "text": "we're going to do with the basement that"}, {"start": "02:39:46", "end": "02:39:51", "text": "you you want people to tell their"}, {"start": "02:39:48", "end": "02:39:53", "text": "stories. So, I always start out uh that"}, {"start": "02:39:51", "end": "02:39:55", "text": "way when I'm talking to people at UFO"}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:56", "text": "conventions and things like that um"}, {"start": "02:39:55", "end": "02:39:58", "text": "because they know the W files does"}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "debunking and things like that. And I"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:03", "text": "always say, \"Look, I don't care about"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:04", "text": "the truth of the story um while you're"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:07", "text": "telling it. I just want to hear the"}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:08", "text": "whole story and then we'll we'll work on"}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:10", "text": "what's what's real and what's not and"}, {"start": "02:40:08", "end": "02:40:12", "text": "what's believable and what's not. And if"}, {"start": "02:40:10", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "we're debunking your story, just make it"}, {"start": "02:40:12", "end": "02:40:15", "text": "a better story where we can't debunk it."}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:17", "text": "That's the best way."}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:19", "text": ">> That's the best way."}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:20", "text": ">> So, what do you think about this, Gino?"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:23", "text": "Is this a good idea? Because I don't"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "know if it is. So, after we have Billy"}, {"start": "02:40:23", "end": "02:40:25", "text": "on, he tells a story. I'll push back a"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:27", "text": "little bit, but I just want to hear him"}, {"start": "02:40:25", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "tell it."}, {"start": "02:40:27", "end": "02:40:32", "text": ">> Do I do a followup where I kind of show"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "where it's just not true,"}, {"start": "02:40:32", "end": "02:40:35", "text": ">> you know? Uh,"}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:36", "text": ">> or or will that turn off future guests?"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:38", "text": "Like, I don't want to come on and tell"}, {"start": "02:40:36", "end": "02:40:41", "text": "my story just so you can rip it apart in"}, {"start": "02:40:38", "end": "02:40:43", "text": "two weeks,"}, {"start": "02:40:41", "end": "02:40:45", "text": ">> you know? It it's hard to say because"}, {"start": "02:40:43", "end": "02:40:47", "text": "you you could be right about that. It"}, {"start": "02:40:45", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "could could chase some people off."}, {"start": "02:40:47", "end": "02:40:52", "text": "However, when people have grandiose"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:55", "text": "stories, they want to tell them anyway."}, {"start": "02:40:52", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "So, they might be willing. I mean, Billy"}, {"start": "02:40:55", "end": "02:41:02", "text": "went on Joe Rogan. He has to know that"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:03", "text": "that you know after doing a Rogan"}, {"start": "02:41:02", "end": "02:41:05", "text": "interview people"}, {"start": "02:41:03", "end": "02:41:08", "text": ">> but Joe Yeah. But Joe doesn't push back"}, {"start": "02:41:05", "end": "02:41:10", "text": "that hard on anybody"}, {"start": "02:41:08", "end": "02:41:12", "text": ">> but the world did. I mean the world"}, {"start": "02:41:10", "end": "02:41:16", "text": "ripped apart"}, {"start": "02:41:12", "end": "02:41:19", "text": ">> his interview. Um which happened"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:21", "text": ">> that happens. So Joe got some flak for"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:23", "text": ">> not pushing back on some of the weirder"}, {"start": "02:41:21", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "stuff that Billy says."}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:31", "text": "And I wouldn't say flack. I I mean uh"}, {"start": "02:41:27", "end": "02:41:34", "text": "like um he gets flack for not uh like"}, {"start": "02:41:31", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "having someone political on and not"}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:38", "text": "asking the hard questions, but someone"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:40", "text": "like Billy Carson, it's like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:41:38", "end": "02:41:42", "text": "we we're just listening."}, {"start": "02:41:40", "end": "02:41:44", "text": ">> I think Joe comes at it from the same"}, {"start": "02:41:42", "end": "02:41:45", "text": "approach is Joe just wants to hear the"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:48", "text": "story, too."}, {"start": "02:41:45", "end": "02:41:51", "text": ">> And Joe is not an investigative"}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:53", "text": "journalist. Neither am I. But Joe"}, {"start": "02:41:51", "end": "02:41:56", "text": "doesn't research or investigate really"}, {"start": "02:41:53", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "anything. He just sees Billy telling"}, {"start": "02:41:56", "end": "02:41:59", "text": "cool stories and like I want to talk to"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:00", "text": "this guy and hear what he's got to say."}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:02", "text": "I don't I don't think Joe will go down"}, {"start": "02:42:00", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "the rabbit hole and and look to see how"}, {"start": "02:42:02", "end": "02:42:07", "text": "to debunk him, you know, live."}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:09", "text": "So, I don't want to do that either. I"}, {"start": "02:42:07", "end": "02:42:11", "text": "just I don't want people to to to feel"}, {"start": "02:42:09", "end": "02:42:12", "text": "like, oh, you let this guy get away with"}, {"start": "02:42:11", "end": "02:42:14", "text": "all this nonsense, yet on your regular"}, {"start": "02:42:12", "end": "02:42:16", "text": "show, you you give us a whole analysis"}, {"start": "02:42:14", "end": "02:42:18", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "02:42:16", "end": "02:42:19", "text": ">> Yeah. It's important that that to for"}, {"start": "02:42:18", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "guests to know we're not going to give"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "you gotcha moments, you know, we're not"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:26", "text": "no"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:30", "text": ">> like even if um we talk about someone in"}, {"start": "02:42:26", "end": "02:42:33", "text": "an episode where um we do some debunking"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:36", "text": "um like uh Tim Hogan um so we have Tim"}, {"start": "02:42:33", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "Hogan coming on and he has claims that"}, {"start": "02:42:36", "end": "02:42:44", "text": "they have some very important bones,"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:45", "text": "right? Um that you know"}, {"start": "02:42:44", "end": "02:42:47", "text": ">> and I want to talk to Tim about that. So"}, {"start": "02:42:45", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "what Gino is talking about is is Hogan"}, {"start": "02:42:47", "end": "02:42:53", "text": "claims he has an osuary um which is a"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:57", "text": "box of bones where he has the bones of"}, {"start": "02:42:53", "end": "02:43:00", "text": "Jesus Christ of of John of Mary"}, {"start": "02:42:57", "end": "02:43:04", "text": "Magdalene and of the children that Mary"}, {"start": "02:43:00", "end": "02:43:06", "text": "had with both Jesus and John. Now that"}, {"start": "02:43:04", "end": "02:43:09", "text": "is an insane claim. That's a crazy"}, {"start": "02:43:06", "end": "02:43:11", "text": "claim. That's an earthchanging claim."}, {"start": "02:43:09", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "And he said he'd be releasing that"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "information at the end of the year. And"}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:16", "text": "then he said that I think three years"}, {"start": "02:43:13", "end": "02:43:19", "text": "ago. So, but I still want I still want"}, {"start": "02:43:16", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "to hear that story and no reason to try"}, {"start": "02:43:19", "end": "02:43:22", "text": "to debunk that. I mean, the hardest"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:24", "text": "question I think I would ask him about"}, {"start": "02:43:22", "end": "02:43:26", "text": "that is"}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:29", "text": "how would you address or how do you feel"}, {"start": "02:43:26", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "about the ramifications"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:33", "text": "of that if it were true? I think that's"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:35", "text": "an important question. Not how did you,"}, {"start": "02:43:33", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "you know, not where are they and stuff"}, {"start": "02:43:35", "end": "02:43:40", "text": "like that. like how did you come across"}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:44", "text": "these and"}, {"start": "02:43:40", "end": "02:43:46", "text": "releasing them would be"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "so earth shattering that what is your"}, {"start": "02:43:46", "end": "02:43:52", "text": "responsibility there"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:55", "text": ">> and see me I would want to know did you"}, {"start": "02:43:52", "end": "02:43:57", "text": "make it into like like a toe bone make"}, {"start": "02:43:55", "end": "02:43:59", "text": "it into like a a little keychain like a"}, {"start": "02:43:57", "end": "02:44:01", "text": "rat you got carry around"}, {"start": "02:43:59", "end": "02:44:03", "text": ">> this is now this is this is why Gino"}, {"start": "02:44:01", "end": "02:44:05", "text": "doesn't do the writing"}, {"start": "02:44:03", "end": "02:44:07", "text": ">> uh little toe"}, {"start": "02:44:05", "end": "02:44:09", "text": ">> is You don't wear Jesus's bones as a"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:11", "text": "like a rabbit's foot. Although you"}, {"start": "02:44:09", "end": "02:44:15", "text": "probably would get really lucky, but you"}, {"start": "02:44:11", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "know, I have I have respect for for for"}, {"start": "02:44:15", "end": "02:44:18", "text": "Jesus Christ."}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:19", "text": ">> It would save you money at the bar cuz"}, {"start": "02:44:18", "end": "02:44:21", "text": "you only just got to order one."}, {"start": "02:44:19", "end": "02:44:24", "text": ">> All right. All right. There he goes."}, {"start": "02:44:21", "end": "02:44:28", "text": "It's a It's Christmas Day. It's"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "Christmas Day and he's just blaspheming."}, {"start": "02:44:28", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "I got to drop them down there as as we"}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:36", "text": "just lost 300 devout Christians from the"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:38", "text": "from the audience. I'm watching the"}, {"start": "02:44:36", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "numbers. Okay, you just came back. You"}, {"start": "02:44:38", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "just came back. Good. Good to have you"}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:45", "text": "back."}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:46", "text": "Um, please don't lol Jesus toe. Don't do"}, {"start": "02:44:45", "end": "02:44:49", "text": "that because that's just going to"}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:52", "text": "encourage, you know, to be more"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "disrespectful."}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:57", "text": "He knows a guy. That's that would be"}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "funny. How did you get these bones? old."}, {"start": "02:44:57", "end": "02:45:03", "text": "I got a bone guy. Well, you know, I got"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:03", "text": "a bone guy."}, {"start": "02:45:03", "end": "02:45:07", "text": ">> So, I don't I don't think he has those"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:09", "text": "bones, but I"}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:12", "text": ">> but there's I'd like to know the story."}, {"start": "02:45:09", "end": "02:45:14", "text": "And and Tim Hogan is uh has an"}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:16", "text": "encyclopedic knowledge of the history of"}, {"start": "02:45:14", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "the Knights Templar. And that's what"}, {"start": "02:45:16", "end": "02:45:21", "text": "fascinates me is we'll get cats"}, {"start": "02:45:19", "end": "02:45:23", "text": "everywhere is we can get into um the"}, {"start": "02:45:21", "end": "02:45:25", "text": "very beginning on the on the road to"}, {"start": "02:45:23", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "Jerusalem and the and the accumulation"}, {"start": "02:45:25", "end": "02:45:31", "text": "of wealth and then the Friday the 13th"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:33", "text": "purge and the scattering of the nights"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:35", "text": "and the nights hospital hospital are and"}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:39", "text": "all that other stuff"}, {"start": "02:45:35", "end": "02:45:40", "text": "that I want to hear about."}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:42", "text": "So, the bones is just one of those"}, {"start": "02:45:40", "end": "02:45:45", "text": "things because he has a lot of artifacts"}, {"start": "02:45:42", "end": "02:45:47", "text": "he claims. And there's also a lot of"}, {"start": "02:45:45", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "there's a lot of politics between the"}, {"start": "02:45:47", "end": "02:45:51", "text": "present day Knights Templar where"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:53", "text": ">> where he's he's on the outs with some"}, {"start": "02:45:51", "end": "02:45:55", "text": "like there's a lot of infighting. I'd"}, {"start": "02:45:53", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "like to hear about some of that drama."}, {"start": "02:45:55", "end": "02:46:01", "text": ">> And that's only one story of the Knights"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "Templar. That's only a one he has a a"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:05", "text": "breath of work, you know, breath of"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "stories about the Knights. amateur"}, {"start": "02:46:05", "end": "02:46:09", "text": "moose. Um, how about a nice mixture like"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:10", "text": "talk interview shows used to be. Let"}, {"start": "02:46:09", "end": "02:46:12", "text": "them tell their story, then ask the hard"}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "questions. They're right there. Let them"}, {"start": "02:46:12", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "defend themselves. The reactions will"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:17", "text": "show you. I don't want anybody to be"}, {"start": "02:46:15", "end": "02:46:19", "text": "defending themselves because then they"}, {"start": "02:46:17", "end": "02:46:21", "text": "become defensive."}, {"start": "02:46:19", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:46:21", "end": "02:46:26", "text": "it's not I don't want to put anybody on"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:30", "text": "the spot. I We will get more We I think"}, {"start": "02:46:26", "end": "02:46:35", "text": "we'll have more fun with me hosting if"}, {"start": "02:46:30", "end": "02:46:37", "text": "it's friendly and respectful, not"}, {"start": "02:46:35", "end": "02:46:39", "text": "aggressive. Now, I will push back on if"}, {"start": "02:46:37", "end": "02:46:40", "text": "something's like dead obvious like with"}, {"start": "02:46:39", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "Tim Hogan is going to be fine with"}, {"start": "02:46:40", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "questions about those bones because he"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "knows they're coming, but I don't have"}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:48", "text": "to sit there and go, you know, you said"}, {"start": "02:46:47", "end": "02:46:50", "text": "three years ago you're releasing what"}, {"start": "02:46:48", "end": "02:46:51", "text": "happened, you know, and see what he"}, {"start": "02:46:50", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "does. I'm not interested in doing any of"}, {"start": "02:46:51", "end": "02:46:54", "text": "that. I want to hear the story. How did"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:46:57", "text": "you come across these? What does it"}, {"start": "02:46:54", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "mean? You know, what what is how did you"}, {"start": "02:46:57", "end": "02:47:01", "text": "how did you determine that these are the"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:03", "text": "actual B? Is there DNA? I mean, if"}, {"start": "02:47:01", "end": "02:47:05", "text": "there's DNA, it's"}, {"start": "02:47:03", "end": "02:47:06", "text": ">> And does that DNA match the DNA from the"}, {"start": "02:47:05", "end": "02:47:07", "text": "Shroud of Torin?"}, {"start": "02:47:06", "end": "02:47:11", "text": ">> That'd be interesting because there's"}, {"start": "02:47:07", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "DNA on the Shroud."}, {"start": "02:47:11", "end": "02:47:16", "text": ">> And and there is new new evidence with"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:18", "text": "the Shroud. Uh I think a little bit"}, {"start": "02:47:16", "end": "02:47:21", "text": ">> uh that has come out. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:47:18", "end": "02:47:23", "text": ">> a little bit. Um I forget the guy's"}, {"start": "02:47:21", "end": "02:47:25", "text": "name. He's got a book, of course. he was"}, {"start": "02:47:23", "end": "02:47:27", "text": "doing the rounds talking about the"}, {"start": "02:47:25", "end": "02:47:29", "text": "shroud and uh I've always loved the"}, {"start": "02:47:27", "end": "02:47:31", "text": "shroud of torren story but I I kind of"}, {"start": "02:47:29", "end": "02:47:33", "text": "felt it was debunked"}, {"start": "02:47:31", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "uh but he brings some very interesting"}, {"start": "02:47:33", "end": "02:47:39", "text": "evidence that I can't confirm because"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:41", "text": "you kind of need a scientist there and"}, {"start": "02:47:39", "end": "02:47:45", "text": "uh and he talks about how the image on"}, {"start": "02:47:41", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "the shroud is only two microns deep in"}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:50", "text": "the cloth and there so there's no it's"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:53", "text": "not pigment so it couldn't have been"}, {"start": "02:47:50", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "painted and the explanation for it"}, {"start": "02:47:53", "end": "02:48:01", "text": "according to him is an extreme amount of"}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:03", "text": "energy, a flash of energy, which would"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "totally explain why the image of the"}, {"start": "02:48:03", "end": "02:48:07", "text": "figure is there. Um, it's another one of"}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:10", "text": "those things I don't necessarily believe"}, {"start": "02:48:07", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "the shroud of torren is really Jesus,"}, {"start": "02:48:10", "end": "02:48:15", "text": "but I hope it is. I hope it is for so"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:19", "text": "many reasons. to have definitive proof"}, {"start": "02:48:15", "end": "02:48:22", "text": "of that man would change certainly my my"}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:25", "text": "worldview about about religion and I've"}, {"start": "02:48:22", "end": "02:48:29", "text": "said this on the show um almost it's"}, {"start": "02:48:25", "end": "02:48:29", "text": "almost become cliche"}, {"start": "02:48:31", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "after life or if and I don't know if I"}, {"start": "02:48:33", "end": "02:48:42", "text": "believe that Jesus Christ was the was"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:43", "text": "who he was but when I die if I open my"}, {"start": "02:48:42", "end": "02:48:46", "text": "eyes and I'm suddenly at the pearly"}, {"start": "02:48:43", "end": "02:48:48", "text": "gates and St. Peter's there. The first"}, {"start": "02:48:46", "end": "02:48:49", "text": "words out of my mouth are going to be,"}, {"start": "02:48:48", "end": "02:48:53", "text": "\"Thank God"}, {"start": "02:48:49", "end": "02:48:53", "text": ">> because I want to I want to believe.\""}, {"start": "02:48:53", "end": "02:48:56", "text": ">> All right, Gina, I'm going to drop you"}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:48:57", "text": "down. You're getting kind of loud back"}, {"start": "02:48:56", "end": "02:48:58", "text": "there."}, {"start": "02:48:57", "end": "02:49:00", "text": ">> But if you want to come if you want to"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:02", "text": "come back Christmas,"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:04", "text": ">> just give a signal."}, {"start": "02:49:02", "end": "02:49:06", "text": ">> And last thing I I'll say is uh again, I"}, {"start": "02:49:04", "end": "02:49:09", "text": "put the uh trailer for this Ionics uh"}, {"start": "02:49:06", "end": "02:49:11", "text": "documentary I'm in with Patrick uh in"}, {"start": "02:49:09", "end": "02:49:12", "text": "the in the chat if you want to play it."}, {"start": "02:49:11", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "It's a two-minute trailer. play it at"}, {"start": "02:49:12", "end": "02:49:16", "text": "any time. It's uh pretty interesting."}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:18", "text": ">> We'll play we'll play it right now. Is"}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:19", "text": "it the uh you can you fire it from"}, {"start": "02:49:18", "end": "02:49:21", "text": "there?"}, {"start": "02:49:19", "end": "02:49:22", "text": ">> Uh no, it's in the private chat."}, {"start": "02:49:21", "end": "02:49:24", "text": ">> Oh. Oh. Oh."}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:25", "text": ">> Oh, it's just a link to"}, {"start": "02:49:24", "end": "02:49:28", "text": ">> Oh, it's a YouTube link. All right. Let"}, {"start": "02:49:25", "end": "02:49:31", "text": "me see if I can get that"}, {"start": "02:49:28", "end": "02:49:34", "text": "right. Hang on a second."}, {"start": "02:49:31", "end": "02:49:36", "text": "And you guys have to tell me if if"}, {"start": "02:49:34", "end": "02:49:39", "text": "you're getting the audio."}, {"start": "02:49:36", "end": "02:49:41", "text": ">> And it was it was great. I mean, we were"}, {"start": "02:49:39", "end": "02:49:43", "text": "on this journey. Definitely seen a lot"}, {"start": "02:49:41", "end": "02:49:45", "text": "of stuff in the sky."}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:46", "text": ">> And before I forget, a couple of people"}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:49", "text": "were saying about Sedona, you know, is"}, {"start": "02:49:46", "end": "02:49:51", "text": "it really as as beautiful as as people"}, {"start": "02:49:49", "end": "02:49:53", "text": "say? It is. I go there a few times a"}, {"start": "02:49:51", "end": "02:49:55", "text": "year and it's so breathtakingly"}, {"start": "02:49:53", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "beautiful that it makes you believe in"}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:49:59", "text": "uh in in God. I don't mean to keep"}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:01", "text": "talking. I'm I'm non-religious guy. I'm"}, {"start": "02:49:59", "end": "02:50:06", "text": "going keep talking about God, but the"}, {"start": "02:50:01", "end": "02:50:08", "text": "vistas are so perfect that you couldn't"}, {"start": "02:50:06", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "paint it. It's breath It's breathtaking."}, {"start": "02:50:08", "end": "02:50:12", "text": "And I'm not really a sappy guy about"}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:15", "text": "like, oh, look at this view. I'm not"}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:18", "text": "really like that, but Sedona's bananas."}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:21", "text": "It's so nice. And um and it's a dark sky"}, {"start": "02:50:18", "end": "02:50:24", "text": "city, which is an official thing. So, if"}, {"start": "02:50:21", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "you're an astronomy nerd like me, um"}, {"start": "02:50:24", "end": "02:50:28", "text": "Sedona just gets even more beautiful at"}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:29", "text": "night because there's a dark sky city"}, {"start": "02:50:28", "end": "02:50:32", "text": "means they don't allow any street lights"}, {"start": "02:50:29", "end": "02:50:34", "text": "and stuff after dark. So, you can see"}, {"start": "02:50:32", "end": "02:50:37", "text": "everything. You can see the the plane of"}, {"start": "02:50:34", "end": "02:50:38", "text": "the ecliptic. You can see the Milky Way."}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:40", "text": "And um I like to go there in the winter"}, {"start": "02:50:38", "end": "02:50:42", "text": "because I know all the winter stars. I'm"}, {"start": "02:50:40", "end": "02:50:44", "text": "a winter stars nerd. I'm not so strong"}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:46", "text": "in the summer. But once Orion comes up"}, {"start": "02:50:44", "end": "02:50:49", "text": "and Caster and Pock are there, I know"}, {"start": "02:50:46", "end": "02:50:51", "text": "all them stars. And I just sit out there"}, {"start": "02:50:49", "end": "02:50:55", "text": "and bore my wife. See that one? See that"}, {"start": "02:50:51", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "one? See how See how Orion's pointing at"}, {"start": "02:50:55", "end": "02:50:58", "text": "at that? That's Alder Baron. That's the"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "That's the red eye of Taurus. And you"}, {"start": "02:50:58", "end": "02:51:02", "text": "can f and she's like, \"That's great,"}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "honey. That's great, honey. Is there any"}, {"start": "02:51:02", "end": "02:51:07", "text": "more wine?\" Mary Jane Peach loves Orion."}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "Well, he loves you back, baby."}, {"start": "02:51:07", "end": "02:51:12", "text": "There's the hunter. And"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:15", "text": ">> and remember his dog is his dog is"}, {"start": "02:51:12", "end": "02:51:18", "text": "serious right by his side."}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:20", "text": ">> So that's the dog star."}, {"start": "02:51:18", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "That's uh Kanes. I think he's Kenis"}, {"start": "02:51:20", "end": "02:51:23", "text": "Major."}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "I could be wrong. All right. Ready for"}, {"start": "02:51:23", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "some trailer? Let me know if you hear an"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:30", "text": "audio."}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:32", "text": ">> I hear."}, {"start": "02:51:30", "end": "02:51:37", "text": "For years, mankind has explored hidden"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:37", "text": "powers of the mind. Mind. The mind."}, {"start": "02:51:41", "end": "02:51:48", "text": "Most dismissed it as science fiction."}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:49", "text": ">> It is absolutely ridiculous. I don't"}, {"start": "02:51:48", "end": "02:51:52", "text": "know what we're doing believing in all"}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:54", "text": "this nonsense over all these years."}, {"start": "02:51:52", "end": "02:51:59", "text": ">> But what if they were wrong? What if"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:51:59", "text": "they were wrong? But what if they were"}, {"start": "02:52:01", "end": "02:52:07", "text": ">> What if you could summon UFOs? Uso"}, {"start": "02:52:10", "end": "02:52:16", "text": ">> with your mind. With your mind."}, {"start": "02:52:13", "end": "02:52:16", "text": ">> With your mind."}, {"start": "02:52:21", "end": "02:52:27", "text": "What if you had the power inside of you"}, {"start": "02:52:26", "end": "02:52:29", "text": "all this time?"}, {"start": "02:52:27", "end": "02:52:32", "text": ">> Would you try it? Would you try it?"}, {"start": "02:52:29", "end": "02:52:33", "text": "Would you be afraid?"}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:35", "text": "Oh, what' you just go for? What did you"}, {"start": "02:52:33", "end": "02:52:37", "text": "just go for?"}, {"start": "02:52:35", "end": "02:52:38", "text": ">> Cuz these are going nuts."}, {"start": "02:52:37", "end": "02:52:41", "text": ">> They're going nuts."}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:43", "text": ">> When you interact with them, you form a"}, {"start": "02:52:41", "end": "02:52:44", "text": "bond. Oh, no. You can't record any of"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:52:44", "end": "02:52:48", "text": ">> You can't turn it off."}, {"start": "02:52:49", "end": "02:52:54", "text": ">> Controversial, huh? That's my middle"}, {"start": "02:52:51", "end": "02:52:54", "text": "name."}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:06", "text": "like it turned on and got brighter for"}, {"start": "02:53:03", "end": "02:53:06", "text": "one second."}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:17", "text": ">> I know there's aliens inside there."}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:19", "text": ">> Did you see that, Patrick?"}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:21", "text": ">> Oh my."}, {"start": "02:53:19", "end": "02:53:25", "text": ">> Did you hear that? Something was in the"}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:25", "text": "bushes right behind you, dude."}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:34", "text": "I'm ready to see something. If you're"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:37", "text": "willing to show it to me, I'm open. I"}, {"start": "02:53:34", "end": "02:53:40", "text": "just want to see what you are. And I"}, {"start": "02:53:37", "end": "02:53:43", "text": "look up and there are these orange"}, {"start": "02:53:40", "end": "02:53:46", "text": "lights that are just drifting above the"}, {"start": "02:53:43", "end": "02:53:46", "text": "tree line."}, {"start": "02:53:51", "end": "02:53:55", "text": ">> Yo, you're bringing the heat."}, {"start": "02:53:54", "end": "02:53:59", "text": "I just don't even know what I'm doing"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:53:59", "text": "with my life."}, {"start": "02:54:00", "end": "02:54:05", "text": ">> Well, yeah. Again, um"}, {"start": "02:54:04", "end": "02:54:08", "text": ">> I was was happy to be along for the"}, {"start": "02:54:05", "end": "02:54:10", "text": "journey. It is Patrick's uh thing. Uh"}, {"start": "02:54:08", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "you know, but I was just helping out. Um"}, {"start": "02:54:10", "end": "02:54:16", "text": ">> hang on, hang on. So, summoning UFOs and"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:19", "text": "aliens with your mind. This is what Dr."}, {"start": "02:54:16", "end": "02:54:22", "text": "Steven Greer charges money for."}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:24", "text": ">> So, is this a thing? Is"}, {"start": "02:54:22", "end": "02:54:27", "text": "What did What did you see?"}, {"start": "02:54:24", "end": "02:54:28", "text": ">> What did it Because you were you."}, {"start": "02:54:27", "end": "02:54:29", "text": ">> Hell of a trailer, by the way. Crushed"}, {"start": "02:54:28", "end": "02:54:30", "text": "it."}, {"start": "02:54:29", "end": "02:54:33", "text": ">> Crushed it."}, {"start": "02:54:30", "end": "02:54:35", "text": ">> So many things. Well, we went to Sedona."}, {"start": "02:54:33", "end": "02:54:39", "text": "We went to Utah. We went to different"}, {"start": "02:54:35", "end": "02:54:42", "text": "places. Um when we were in Sedona, we"}, {"start": "02:54:39", "end": "02:54:45", "text": "were using these militaryra"}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:47", "text": "um night vision goggles. And"}, {"start": "02:54:45", "end": "02:54:49", "text": "something that most people don't realize"}, {"start": "02:54:47", "end": "02:54:52", "text": "is there are things moving around the"}, {"start": "02:54:49", "end": "02:54:54", "text": "sky at pretty much all times. And I'm"}, {"start": "02:54:52", "end": "02:54:55", "text": "talking about multiple things. Now, of"}, {"start": "02:54:54", "end": "02:54:57", "text": "course, they could be satellite,"}, {"start": "02:54:55", "end": "02:55:00", "text": "man-made things, but we had satellite"}, {"start": "02:54:57", "end": "02:55:04", "text": "trackers. We had plane trackers. Uh you"}, {"start": "02:55:00", "end": "02:55:07", "text": "know what? They're not listed. So, I'm"}, {"start": "02:55:04", "end": "02:55:09", "text": "not here to say I saw UFOs. I am here to"}, {"start": "02:55:07", "end": "02:55:12", "text": "say I seen a lot of things moving around"}, {"start": "02:55:09", "end": "02:55:16", "text": "in the sky that were sort of anomalous."}, {"start": "02:55:12", "end": "02:55:19", "text": "Um, a few things we saw make curves. Um,"}, {"start": "02:55:16", "end": "02:55:22", "text": "one thing I saw very vividly that me and"}, {"start": "02:55:19", "end": "02:55:26", "text": "Ron James both saw was something turned"}, {"start": "02:55:22", "end": "02:55:28", "text": "on and turned off and we couldn't figure"}, {"start": "02:55:26", "end": "02:55:31", "text": "that out, you know, because it it was"}, {"start": "02:55:28", "end": "02:55:34", "text": "just like a flash in the sky like uh we"}, {"start": "02:55:31", "end": "02:55:35", "text": "were on a stage and someone lit up a"}, {"start": "02:55:34", "end": "02:55:39", "text": "like the Truman Show lit up a light and"}, {"start": "02:55:35", "end": "02:55:40", "text": "then shut it off. Really interesting."}, {"start": "02:55:39", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "And again, since we were looking, me and"}, {"start": "02:55:40", "end": "02:55:44", "text": "Ron were looking in the same part of the"}, {"start": "02:55:42", "end": "02:55:46", "text": "sky, uh, because we were looking at"}, {"start": "02:55:44", "end": "02:55:47", "text": "another anomalous thing that was moving,"}, {"start": "02:55:46", "end": "02:55:49", "text": "we both saw the same thing, which is"}, {"start": "02:55:47", "end": "02:55:51", "text": "hard to do because when you're looking"}, {"start": "02:55:49", "end": "02:55:54", "text": "at a big sky, it's hard to be looking at"}, {"start": "02:55:51", "end": "02:55:56", "text": "exactly the same same thing. Two people."}, {"start": "02:55:54", "end": "02:55:58", "text": "So, we both saw that. Very interesting."}, {"start": "02:55:56", "end": "02:56:01", "text": ">> Well, what did th those two people said,"}, {"start": "02:55:58", "end": "02:56:04", "text": "you can't record this. Who were they and"}, {"start": "02:56:01", "end": "02:56:06", "text": "why did they say no?"}, {"start": "02:56:04", "end": "02:56:09", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "02:56:06", "end": "02:56:12", "text": "they were talking about Bradshaw Ranch,"}, {"start": "02:56:09", "end": "02:56:15", "text": "which is like uh the sister ranch to"}, {"start": "02:56:12", "end": "02:56:18", "text": "Skinwalker. So uh there were some things"}, {"start": "02:56:15", "end": "02:56:21", "text": "that were going on at Bradshaw Ranch"}, {"start": "02:56:18", "end": "02:56:24", "text": "that involved um"}, {"start": "02:56:21", "end": "02:56:27", "text": "I guess what what can I say? Uh that he"}, {"start": "02:56:24", "end": "02:56:29", "text": "felt if the info would get out, people"}, {"start": "02:56:27", "end": "02:56:33", "text": "would be"}, {"start": "02:56:29", "end": "02:56:37", "text": "in trouble. Uh, and I mean like worried"}, {"start": "02:56:33", "end": "02:56:41", "text": "about um, you know, their lives type of"}, {"start": "02:56:37", "end": "02:56:42", "text": "trouble. So, um, hang on. Yeah. He found"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:44", "text": "the cookie jar. Hang on. I got to I got"}, {"start": "02:56:42", "end": "02:56:47", "text": "to deal with Hang on."}, {"start": "02:56:44", "end": "02:56:47", "text": ">> You found the cookies."}, {"start": "02:56:49", "end": "02:56:52", "text": ">> Now,"}, {"start": "02:56:50", "end": "02:56:55", "text": "one of the reasons I don't cover"}, {"start": "02:56:52", "end": "02:56:59", "text": "Skimwalker Ranch is I can debunk 80% of"}, {"start": "02:56:55", "end": "02:57:03", "text": "that. Uh, so this other But only 80. but"}, {"start": "02:56:59", "end": "02:57:05", "text": "only 80."}, {"start": "02:57:03", "end": "02:57:07", "text": ">> Now, I'll say this about Skinwalker"}, {"start": "02:57:05", "end": "02:57:10", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch and places like this."}, {"start": "02:57:07", "end": "02:57:14", "text": "Um, I do think a lot of the stuff might"}, {"start": "02:57:10", "end": "02:57:17", "text": "become sort of exaggerated, but um"}, {"start": "02:57:14", "end": "02:57:20", "text": "they're on they're in locations that"}, {"start": "02:57:17", "end": "02:57:22", "text": "have, you know, I don't I'm not sure if"}, {"start": "02:57:20", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "we want to call them lay lines or or or"}, {"start": "02:57:22", "end": "02:57:28", "text": "you know, power places or or things like"}, {"start": "02:57:25", "end": "02:57:30", "text": "that. So I do think a lot of things"}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:32", "text": "happen at these places. However, I also"}, {"start": "02:57:30", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "think a lot of people expect things to"}, {"start": "02:57:32", "end": "02:57:37", "text": "happen. So they think everything they"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:38", "text": "see is something anomalous. So"}, {"start": "02:57:37", "end": "02:57:41", "text": ">> I think that's the right attitude is to"}, {"start": "02:57:38", "end": "02:57:43", "text": "go in there assuming that everybody's"}, {"start": "02:57:41", "end": "02:57:45", "text": "going to see like Sedona is a place that"}, {"start": "02:57:43", "end": "02:57:48", "text": "is documented has a strange"}, {"start": "02:57:45", "end": "02:57:50", "text": "electromagnetic energy, but it also has"}, {"start": "02:57:48", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "very unusual rock formations and it"}, {"start": "02:57:50", "end": "02:57:54", "text": "could be that. But yet if you if you"}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:56", "text": "walk down Main Street in Sedona, every"}, {"start": "02:57:54", "end": "02:57:59", "text": "other shop is selling crystals and all"}, {"start": "02:57:56", "end": "02:58:02", "text": "kinds of nonsense."}, {"start": "02:57:59", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "So, you know, but there's something"}, {"start": "02:58:02", "end": "02:58:06", "text": "special about that place. And even, you"}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:08", "text": "know, even even Native Americans knew"}, {"start": "02:58:06", "end": "02:58:09", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "02:58:08", "end": "02:58:13", "text": ">> you know, before they"}, {"start": "02:58:09", "end": "02:58:15", "text": ">> now before they were taken out of there."}, {"start": "02:58:13", "end": "02:58:18", "text": "We we talked uh about Chris Bledo, uh"}, {"start": "02:58:15", "end": "02:58:22", "text": "who I've uh become close with. I've been"}, {"start": "02:58:18", "end": "02:58:26", "text": "talking to a lot. Um, and I seen him"}, {"start": "02:58:22", "end": "02:58:29", "text": "summon some UFOs. Um, uh, when I say"}, {"start": "02:58:26", "end": "02:58:33", "text": "UFOs, uh, you know, just unsure what"}, {"start": "02:58:29", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "we're looking at now. I see antedies."}, {"start": "02:58:33", "end": "02:58:37", "text": "I'm not I I just mean those shop those"}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:39", "text": "junk shops that sell the crystals and"}, {"start": "02:58:37", "end": "02:58:42", "text": "stuff. I I actually believe in crystals"}, {"start": "02:58:39", "end": "02:58:44", "text": "as healing. I also believe that they're"}, {"start": "02:58:42", "end": "02:58:47", "text": "that they're great for data storage. The"}, {"start": "02:58:44", "end": "02:58:49", "text": "crystals are magical. But I'm not going"}, {"start": "02:58:47", "end": "02:58:51", "text": "to spend 20 bucks on on some something"}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:53", "text": "that some lady made in her basement, put"}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:55", "text": "it around my neck."}, {"start": "02:58:53", "end": "02:58:57", "text": ">> Or maybe I should. I don't know."}, {"start": "02:58:55", "end": "02:58:59", "text": ">> I don't think we've even close to"}, {"start": "02:58:57", "end": "02:59:01", "text": "unleash the power of what crystals uh"}, {"start": "02:58:59", "end": "02:59:03", "text": "can do yet."}, {"start": "02:59:01", "end": "02:59:05", "text": ">> No. So Chris Bledo, go ahead."}, {"start": "02:59:03", "end": "02:59:07", "text": ">> Yeah. So So uh he did that at contact in"}, {"start": "02:59:05", "end": "02:59:09", "text": "the desert. You know, some people"}, {"start": "02:59:07", "end": "02:59:11", "text": "thought they saw something, some people"}, {"start": "02:59:09", "end": "02:59:12", "text": "didn't. But I I saw something that was"}, {"start": "02:59:11", "end": "02:59:14", "text": "interesting enough that I wanted to talk"}, {"start": "02:59:12", "end": "02:59:19", "text": "to him further and get to know him and I"}, {"start": "02:59:14", "end": "02:59:21", "text": "did. and um you know he did a um a"}, {"start": "02:59:19", "end": "02:59:23", "text": "Beyond Skinwalker Ranch episode. It was"}, {"start": "02:59:21", "end": "02:59:25", "text": "the last episode of one one of the"}, {"start": "02:59:23", "end": "02:59:27", "text": "seasons and they had all sorts of"}, {"start": "02:59:25", "end": "02:59:29", "text": "equipment uh where they were testing it."}, {"start": "02:59:27", "end": "02:59:31", "text": "They were seeing orbs. They got them on"}, {"start": "02:59:29", "end": "02:59:32", "text": "film. It's really interesting. So that's"}, {"start": "02:59:31", "end": "02:59:34", "text": "something that I think we should talk to"}, {"start": "02:59:32", "end": "02:59:39", "text": "him about, of course. And then he also"}, {"start": "02:59:34", "end": "02:59:43", "text": "has um a prophecy that uh was told to"}, {"start": "02:59:39", "end": "02:59:46", "text": "him uh by uh the lady which is a female"}, {"start": "02:59:43", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "entity uh that communicates with him"}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:56", "text": "once in a while. Um and that prophecy is"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:59", "text": "to for uh the Egypt on Easter um that it"}, {"start": "02:59:56", "end": "03:00:01", "text": "something is going to shift in humanity"}, {"start": "02:59:59", "end": "03:00:04", "text": "right after that. He said when the"}, {"start": "03:00:01", "end": "03:00:08", "text": "certain star turns is blue instead of"}, {"start": "03:00:04", "end": "03:00:10", "text": "red um you know at uh you know under the"}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:11", "text": "gaze of the sphinx then there's going to"}, {"start": "03:00:10", "end": "03:00:13", "text": "be"}, {"start": "03:00:11", "end": "03:00:16", "text": ">> remember you remember the star"}, {"start": "03:00:13", "end": "03:00:19", "text": ">> uh I don't remember offh hand but he's"}, {"start": "03:00:16", "end": "03:00:21", "text": "not an astronomer and then once he made"}, {"start": "03:00:19", "end": "03:00:25", "text": "this prophecy it turned out that"}, {"start": "03:00:21", "end": "03:00:28", "text": "astronomers look into it and there is"}, {"start": "03:00:25", "end": "03:00:30", "text": "some something behind it you know"}, {"start": "03:00:28", "end": "03:00:32", "text": ">> well what's interesting is we have the"}, {"start": "03:00:30", "end": "03:00:34", "text": "the pyramids. So, we have the theory"}, {"start": "03:00:32", "end": "03:00:37", "text": "that Graham Hancock talks about is how"}, {"start": "03:00:34", "end": "03:00:40", "text": "the pyramids are aligned with Orion's"}, {"start": "03:00:37", "end": "03:00:41", "text": "belt. Now, in the in the the"}, {"start": "03:00:40", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "constellation of Orion, the star"}, {"start": "03:00:41", "end": "03:00:47", "text": "Beetlejuice is a red star, which so"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:49", "text": "that's going to be near that's going to"}, {"start": "03:00:47", "end": "03:00:52", "text": "be aligned with the pyramids. It if it's"}, {"start": "03:00:49", "end": "03:00:54", "text": "if Beetlejuice turns blue,"}, {"start": "03:00:52", "end": "03:00:55", "text": ">> that would be crazy."}, {"start": "03:00:54", "end": "03:00:56", "text": ">> It's not Beetlejuice because I would"}, {"start": "03:00:55", "end": "03:01:00", "text": "have remembered Beetlejuice."}, {"start": "03:00:56", "end": "03:01:02", "text": ">> Okay. Uh uh but uh and and again I I'll"}, {"start": "03:01:00", "end": "03:01:04", "text": "find find out out the name name of it."}, {"start": "03:01:02", "end": "03:01:06", "text": "Um but very"}, {"start": "03:01:04", "end": "03:01:07", "text": ">> you guys in the chat don't don't say"}, {"start": "03:01:06", "end": "03:01:10", "text": "Beetlejuice three times. We don't want"}, {"start": "03:01:07", "end": "03:01:14", "text": "any trouble."}, {"start": "03:01:10", "end": "03:01:15", "text": ">> You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts."}, {"start": "03:01:14", "end": "03:01:16", "text": ">> Yeah. You know,"}, {"start": "03:01:15", "end": "03:01:18", "text": ">> I'd like to talk to Chris because he"}, {"start": "03:01:16", "end": "03:01:21", "text": "comes across as very sincere."}, {"start": "03:01:18", "end": "03:01:26", "text": ">> And NASA has been out to his place uh w"}, {"start": "03:01:21", "end": "03:01:27", "text": "with him generals. Um uh the so quick"}, {"start": "03:01:26", "end": "03:01:29", "text": "recap"}, {"start": "03:01:27", "end": "03:01:32", "text": "for quick recap for people who don't"}, {"start": "03:01:29", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "know Chris um his pro Gino describe his"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:36", "text": "prophecies but before you do you guys"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:39", "text": "should know that um the military and the"}, {"start": "03:01:36", "end": "03:01:41", "text": "government have been in contact with"}, {"start": "03:01:39", "end": "03:01:44", "text": "Chris and are very interested in his"}, {"start": "03:01:41", "end": "03:01:46", "text": "theories and that's very strange to me."}, {"start": "03:01:44", "end": "03:01:48", "text": "So what what is his what is Chris's"}, {"start": "03:01:46", "end": "03:01:52", "text": "hypothesis?"}, {"start": "03:01:48", "end": "03:01:55", "text": "Well, it's it's very uh he he doesn't"}, {"start": "03:01:52", "end": "03:01:57", "text": "know exactly what's going to happen. He"}, {"start": "03:01:55", "end": "03:01:59", "text": "just knows a shift is happening. You"}, {"start": "03:01:57", "end": "03:02:01", "text": "know, he he never looked at it like,"}, {"start": "03:01:59", "end": "03:02:03", "text": "hey, this is the apocalypse coming or"}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:07", "text": "anything like that. Um he just knows"}, {"start": "03:02:03", "end": "03:02:12", "text": "that um during Easter, this is what is"}, {"start": "03:02:07", "end": "03:02:14", "text": "going to to um trigger that shift. So,"}, {"start": "03:02:12", "end": "03:02:15", "text": "uh so that's where we're at. I I think"}, {"start": "03:02:14", "end": "03:02:19", "text": "we got to get it out of the horse's"}, {"start": "03:02:15", "end": "03:02:20", "text": "mouth um better than what I could regurg"}, {"start": "03:02:19", "end": "03:02:23", "text": "and just so the people in the chat know"}, {"start": "03:02:20", "end": "03:02:26", "text": "that um this is this is a guy who's"}, {"start": "03:02:23", "end": "03:02:29", "text": "taken seriously by serious people."}, {"start": "03:02:26", "end": "03:02:32", "text": ">> Now he has medical records that after he"}, {"start": "03:02:29", "end": "03:02:35", "text": "started experiencing this phenomena. Uh"}, {"start": "03:02:32", "end": "03:02:37", "text": "his Crohn's disease went away 100%."}, {"start": "03:02:35", "end": "03:02:40", "text": "That's something he lived with for for o"}, {"start": "03:02:37", "end": "03:02:43", "text": "for for a few decades where um you know"}, {"start": "03:02:40", "end": "03:02:45", "text": "he in Crohn's disease is terrible."}, {"start": "03:02:43", "end": "03:02:48", "text": "you're in the bathroom 20 times a day,"}, {"start": "03:02:45", "end": "03:02:51", "text": "it 100% has got been taken away from"}, {"start": "03:02:48", "end": "03:02:55", "text": "him. So, uh he he was like at the end of"}, {"start": "03:02:51", "end": "03:02:58", "text": "his rope um and praying to God and his"}, {"start": "03:02:55", "end": "03:02:59", "text": "book is called UFO of God. Um he he does"}, {"start": "03:02:58", "end": "03:03:02", "text": "feel"}, {"start": "03:02:59", "end": "03:03:04", "text": ">> he feels that it is there is a a"}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:06", "text": "religious connection to it. And what I"}, {"start": "03:03:04", "end": "03:03:10", "text": "find really interesting in the things he"}, {"start": "03:03:06", "end": "03:03:13", "text": "says is it's very similar to um like"}, {"start": "03:03:10", "end": "03:03:16", "text": "Fatima where these kids were given uh"}, {"start": "03:03:13", "end": "03:03:20", "text": "messages you know so uh so that's really"}, {"start": "03:03:16", "end": "03:03:22", "text": "what um you know intrigued me the most"}, {"start": "03:03:20", "end": "03:03:24", "text": "about his story cuz because that's how I"}, {"start": "03:03:22", "end": "03:03:27", "text": "was connecting it cuz growing up the"}, {"start": "03:03:24", "end": "03:03:28", "text": "legend of the legend or or how whatever"}, {"start": "03:03:27", "end": "03:03:30", "text": "you want to say about Fatima I guess"}, {"start": "03:03:28", "end": "03:03:32", "text": "it's not a legend but you know what"}, {"start": "03:03:30", "end": "03:03:35", "text": "happened in Fatima was so interesting to"}, {"start": "03:03:32", "end": "03:03:37", "text": "me that we have a religious connection."}, {"start": "03:03:35", "end": "03:03:40", "text": "They're definitely looking at some kind"}, {"start": "03:03:37", "end": "03:03:42", "text": "of UFO or or something anomalous in the"}, {"start": "03:03:40", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "sky during Fatima. And"}, {"start": "03:03:42", "end": "03:03:46", "text": ">> I should probably I should cover Fatima."}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:49", "text": "That would be a good episode."}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:52", "text": ">> Well, I if we ever uh you know do UFO of"}, {"start": "03:03:49", "end": "03:03:54", "text": "God, cover Chris Bledso stuff, I think"}, {"start": "03:03:52", "end": "03:03:57", "text": "that would be the great tie-in to to"}, {"start": "03:03:54", "end": "03:03:58", "text": "talk about Fatima as well."}, {"start": "03:03:57", "end": "03:04:01", "text": ">> All right, good stuff."}, {"start": "03:03:58", "end": "03:04:03", "text": ">> Looking forward forward to it. Merry"}, {"start": "03:04:01", "end": "03:04:05", "text": "Christmas everyone. Merry Christmas."}, {"start": "03:04:03", "end": "03:04:07", "text": "There he goes. Gino bringing some heat"}, {"start": "03:04:05", "end": "03:04:09", "text": "today with some good trailers. And I see"}, {"start": "03:04:07", "end": "03:04:11", "text": "uh Patrick from Bed's got some fans in"}, {"start": "03:04:09", "end": "03:04:13", "text": "the chat. That's nice. Patrick is a good"}, {"start": "03:04:11", "end": "03:04:16", "text": "dude. He's been very good to uh us at"}, {"start": "03:04:13", "end": "03:04:19", "text": "the channel. And it was funny with"}, {"start": "03:04:16", "end": "03:04:20", "text": "Patrick and I'll bring Gino up just just"}, {"start": "03:04:19", "end": "03:04:23", "text": "to make sure I'm getting it right. Funny"}, {"start": "03:04:20", "end": "03:04:25", "text": "with Patrick is when I I've been a"}, {"start": "03:04:23", "end": "03:04:27", "text": "critic of Alzando and Grush and all"}, {"start": "03:04:25", "end": "03:04:28", "text": "those guys very early on. And I took a"}, {"start": "03:04:27", "end": "03:04:30", "text": "lot of heat from the audience. A lot of"}, {"start": "03:04:28", "end": "03:04:33", "text": "heat. And I took a lot of heat from"}, {"start": "03:04:30", "end": "03:04:36", "text": "Patrick specifically. Was not a fan of"}, {"start": "03:04:33", "end": "03:04:40", "text": "what I was saying. And um but I stuck to"}, {"start": "03:04:36", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "my guns and I think I brought enough"}, {"start": "03:04:40", "end": "03:04:44", "text": "evidence to support skepticism. Maybe"}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "not to prove that they're lying, but"}, {"start": "03:04:44", "end": "03:04:48", "text": "enough here's enough things that just"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:51", "text": "don't feel right to me. And just just"}, {"start": "03:04:48", "end": "03:04:53", "text": "very recently, Patrick released a video"}, {"start": "03:04:51", "end": "03:04:56", "text": "and said, \"You know what?"}, {"start": "03:04:53", "end": "03:04:57", "text": "I think AJ might be right. I think he"}, {"start": "03:04:56", "end": "03:04:59", "text": "might be right. I don't think we we"}, {"start": "03:04:57", "end": "03:05:01", "text": "should trust these guys. I think we need"}, {"start": "03:04:59", "end": "03:05:04", "text": "more."}, {"start": "03:05:01", "end": "03:05:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Me and Patrick talk offline a lot"}, {"start": "03:05:04", "end": "03:05:09", "text": "about whistleblowers and things like"}, {"start": "03:05:06", "end": "03:05:11", "text": "that and and their stories and and you"}, {"start": "03:05:09", "end": "03:05:14", "text": "know, he's the one who kind of alerted"}, {"start": "03:05:11", "end": "03:05:16", "text": "me to some of Jake Barber's stuff that"}, {"start": "03:05:14", "end": "03:05:19", "text": "really changed my mind on Jake Barber."}, {"start": "03:05:16", "end": "03:05:21", "text": "Um, you know, I was all for Jake Barber"}, {"start": "03:05:19", "end": "03:05:24", "text": "until Patrick told me, \"Hey, the video"}, {"start": "03:05:21", "end": "03:05:27", "text": "that they showed on on the Ros Russart"}, {"start": "03:05:24", "end": "03:05:29", "text": "uh uh show was not Jake Barber's and"}, {"start": "03:05:27", "end": "03:05:31", "text": "they kind of just glaze over that a"}, {"start": "03:05:29", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "little. It's just a different video and"}, {"start": "03:05:31", "end": "03:05:35", "text": "Jake is kind of describing the same"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:37", "text": "thing, but it's a different video.\""}, {"start": "03:05:35", "end": "03:05:40", "text": "Also, that video may have been played in"}, {"start": "03:05:37", "end": "03:05:42", "text": "reverse that, you know, is a little"}, {"start": "03:05:40", "end": "03:05:44", "text": "controversial. Um,"}, {"start": "03:05:42", "end": "03:05:45", "text": ">> it is, but but I but I've watched it in"}, {"start": "03:05:44", "end": "03:05:47", "text": "reverse and it looks more natural in"}, {"start": "03:05:45", "end": "03:05:49", "text": "reverse. It really does."}, {"start": "03:05:47", "end": "03:05:52", "text": ">> That's what Patrick said. Um,"}, {"start": "03:05:49", "end": "03:05:54", "text": ">> didn't Rosart didn't Ross Coldart"}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:58", "text": ">> somewhat recently come out and say that"}, {"start": "03:05:54", "end": "03:06:00", "text": "he was annoyed by Jake or"}, {"start": "03:05:58", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "something like like I forget what he I"}, {"start": "03:06:00", "end": "03:06:04", "text": "don't want to put words in the man's"}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:07", "text": "mouth, but uh but I don't want to say"}, {"start": "03:06:04", "end": "03:06:10", "text": "that he said he was fooled, but I think"}, {"start": "03:06:07", "end": "03:06:12", "text": "he expressed some skepticism about that"}, {"start": "03:06:10", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "story later on. I could be wrong."}, {"start": "03:06:12", "end": "03:06:16", "text": ">> I think so. I think so because Jake is"}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "still working with Skywatcher, which is"}, {"start": "03:06:16", "end": "03:06:21", "text": "also controversial because Skywatcher"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:23", "text": "says they have have a downed craft."}, {"start": "03:06:21", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "Well, if you have a down craft, what"}, {"start": "03:06:23", "end": "03:06:27", "text": "what are we doing here now? You got all"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:28", "text": "the evidence. You got everything we"}, {"start": "03:06:27", "end": "03:06:29", "text": "need."}, {"start": "03:06:28", "end": "03:06:31", "text": ">> And who's funding them? They won't they"}, {"start": "03:06:29", "end": "03:06:32", "text": "won't they won't say who's behind the"}, {"start": "03:06:31", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "funding."}, {"start": "03:06:32", "end": "03:06:35", "text": ">> Yeah. They're they're not a government"}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:36", "text": "entity, but they're attached to the"}, {"start": "03:06:35", "end": "03:06:40", "text": "government, and they're working on the"}, {"start": "03:06:36", "end": "03:06:43", "text": "border on things uh um that aren't just"}, {"start": "03:06:40", "end": "03:06:46", "text": "UAP related, which I appreciate and and"}, {"start": "03:06:43", "end": "03:06:48", "text": "that's that's interesting in itself. Um"}, {"start": "03:06:46", "end": "03:06:50", "text": "but some of the things that that have"}, {"start": "03:06:48", "end": "03:06:53", "text": "come out, they bother me about Jake"}, {"start": "03:06:50", "end": "03:06:56", "text": "Barber. Um he has a book coming out"}, {"start": "03:06:53", "end": "03:07:00", "text": "that's a fictional book that he said um"}, {"start": "03:06:56", "end": "03:07:04", "text": "was his way of getting around having to"}, {"start": "03:07:00", "end": "03:07:06", "text": "uh go through the uh hoops of being"}, {"start": "03:07:04", "end": "03:07:09", "text": "allowed to be a whistleblower about it"}, {"start": "03:07:06", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "and approval from the Pentagon. But that"}, {"start": "03:07:09", "end": "03:07:13", "text": "is a story that we've heard for 50 years"}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "is yeah I released it as sci-fi because"}, {"start": "03:07:13", "end": "03:07:17", "text": "it was the only way I can get the story"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:19", "text": "out but it was all true."}, {"start": "03:07:17", "end": "03:07:22", "text": ">> We've heard that many times. main the"}, {"start": "03:07:19", "end": "03:07:24", "text": "main thing that bothers me about that is"}, {"start": "03:07:22", "end": "03:07:28", "text": "in that he's saying that the US"}, {"start": "03:07:24", "end": "03:07:30", "text": "government is taking psionic ability"}, {"start": "03:07:28", "end": "03:07:34", "text": "children from Indonesia and bringing"}, {"start": "03:07:30", "end": "03:07:36", "text": "them somewhere to work on psionics and"}, {"start": "03:07:34", "end": "03:07:38", "text": "some of them and they get drugged to to"}, {"start": "03:07:36", "end": "03:07:39", "text": "help with with the psionics and some of"}, {"start": "03:07:38", "end": "03:07:42", "text": "them have died. So if that's the truth"}, {"start": "03:07:39", "end": "03:07:45", "text": "UFOs don't matter. What about these"}, {"start": "03:07:42", "end": "03:07:46", "text": "kids? That's what matters. So, forget"}, {"start": "03:07:45", "end": "03:07:49", "text": "the fictional book or anything. You"}, {"start": "03:07:46", "end": "03:07:51", "text": "should be whistleblowing on did kids"}, {"start": "03:07:49", "end": "03:07:54", "text": "die, you know, not UFOs, not anything"}, {"start": "03:07:51", "end": "03:07:57", "text": "else. Did kids get taken from Indonesia"}, {"start": "03:07:54", "end": "03:08:01", "text": "during whatever? Cuz he kind of co-opted"}, {"start": "03:07:57", "end": "03:08:04", "text": "the story of uh Mike Carrera um which uh"}, {"start": "03:08:01", "end": "03:08:06", "text": "was heer is walking through through the"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:09", "text": "Indonesian jungle. They come across a"}, {"start": "03:08:06", "end": "03:08:11", "text": "craft um where they're doing some kind"}, {"start": "03:08:09", "end": "03:08:13", "text": "of trafficking. He wasn't sure what it"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:15", "text": "was. And then all of a sudden there's"}, {"start": "03:08:13", "end": "03:08:17", "text": "these other military guys there with no"}, {"start": "03:08:15", "end": "03:08:19", "text": "patches, no nothing identifying saying,"}, {"start": "03:08:17", "end": "03:08:22", "text": "\"Turn around or you're dead.\" So So"}, {"start": "03:08:19", "end": "03:08:24", "text": "that's his story. And then once Jake"}, {"start": "03:08:22", "end": "03:08:27", "text": "Barber heard that story, he told him, \"I"}, {"start": "03:08:24", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "know what the operation was.\" So now"}, {"start": "03:08:27", "end": "03:08:33", "text": ">> his So now, um, Herrera's story is now"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:36", "text": "kind of co-opted into Jake Barber. So if"}, {"start": "03:08:33", "end": "03:08:36", "text": "Jake Barber is Richard Dodie 2.0, know"}, {"start": "03:08:36", "end": "03:08:37", "text": "then"}, {"start": "03:08:36", "end": "03:08:40", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "03:08:37", "end": "03:08:42", "text": ">> that that's not good to have any part of"}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:44", "text": "what he's saying co-opted into your"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:45", "text": "story because my Carrera story is"}, {"start": "03:08:44", "end": "03:08:47", "text": "believable. We're walking through the"}, {"start": "03:08:45", "end": "03:08:50", "text": "jungle. We see a craft. We see something"}, {"start": "03:08:47", "end": "03:08:54", "text": "going on military. That's a a a short"}, {"start": "03:08:50", "end": "03:08:56", "text": "concise story. It's not a long I I know"}, {"start": "03:08:54", "end": "03:08:58", "text": "that this is going on in the government."}, {"start": "03:08:56", "end": "03:09:00", "text": "We're in touch with aliens. It's not all"}, {"start": "03:08:58", "end": "03:09:02", "text": "that. It's I've seen this and that's it."}, {"start": "03:09:00", "end": "03:09:04", "text": "You know, once we start getting into the"}, {"start": "03:09:02", "end": "03:09:05", "text": "behind the scenes where Jake Barber is"}, {"start": "03:09:04", "end": "03:09:09", "text": "attaching themselves, now the story is"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:11", "text": "is this long crazy"}, {"start": "03:09:09", "end": "03:09:14", "text": "story where felonies are being uh you"}, {"start": "03:09:11", "end": "03:09:15", "text": "know happening from our US government."}, {"start": "03:09:14", "end": "03:09:16", "text": "So, I don't I don't like that part of"}, {"start": "03:09:15", "end": "03:09:18", "text": "it. And"}, {"start": "03:09:16", "end": "03:09:20", "text": ">> I don't either. I don't know if we have"}, {"start": "03:09:18", "end": "03:09:22", "text": "any um any special operators in the"}, {"start": "03:09:20", "end": "03:09:25", "text": "chat, but Jake Barber claimed that he"}, {"start": "03:09:22", "end": "03:09:27", "text": "was um special forces. And if you look"}, {"start": "03:09:25", "end": "03:09:29", "text": "at his uh his DD214, you don't see any"}, {"start": "03:09:27", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "of the training. you don't see any spec"}, {"start": "03:09:29", "end": "03:09:32", "text": "ops in there at all. So, I'd like to"}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:35", "text": "know if there's anyone in the chat if"}, {"start": "03:09:32", "end": "03:09:37", "text": "you're if you're working on"}, {"start": "03:09:35", "end": "03:09:40", "text": "on top secret stuff. If you're working"}, {"start": "03:09:37", "end": "03:09:43", "text": "on SAPs, would it show up in your DD214?"}, {"start": "03:09:40", "end": "03:09:45", "text": "I don't know if it would because so Jake"}, {"start": "03:09:43", "end": "03:09:48", "text": "Barber officially doesn't have the"}, {"start": "03:09:45", "end": "03:09:50", "text": "training to be a special operator. And"}, {"start": "03:09:48", "end": "03:09:52", "text": "yet, he said he will take a lie detector"}, {"start": "03:09:50", "end": "03:09:56", "text": "test and he will go on record and"}, {"start": "03:09:52", "end": "03:09:58", "text": "testify in Congress that it's all true."}, {"start": "03:09:56", "end": "03:10:00", "text": ">> That could just be a bluff."}, {"start": "03:09:58", "end": "03:10:02", "text": "And how could he write this fictional"}, {"start": "03:10:00", "end": "03:10:05", "text": "book and still keep government clearance"}, {"start": "03:10:02", "end": "03:10:07", "text": "on what he's doing on the border with uh"}, {"start": "03:10:05", "end": "03:10:09", "text": "you know Skywatcher and whatever"}, {"start": "03:10:07", "end": "03:10:12", "text": "operations they're they're working on."}, {"start": "03:10:09", "end": "03:10:14", "text": "It just seems like uh there's something"}, {"start": "03:10:12", "end": "03:10:16", "text": "there's there's a missing piece there"}, {"start": "03:10:14", "end": "03:10:17", "text": "that I don't I I can't seem to put"}, {"start": "03:10:16", "end": "03:10:19", "text": "together in a puzzle."}, {"start": "03:10:17", "end": "03:10:21", "text": ">> Yeah. So our vets are saying no, it"}, {"start": "03:10:19", "end": "03:10:24", "text": "would it wouldn't show up on on the 214."}, {"start": "03:10:21", "end": "03:10:26", "text": "I didn't think it would. Um,"}, {"start": "03:10:24", "end": "03:10:27", "text": "but there wouldn't be hole there"}, {"start": "03:10:26", "end": "03:10:30", "text": "wouldn't be holes in your service"}, {"start": "03:10:27", "end": "03:10:34", "text": "record. There would be something there."}, {"start": "03:10:30", "end": "03:10:37", "text": "I didn't pull his record. I'm going to"}, {"start": "03:10:34", "end": "03:10:41", "text": "I want to see what they what they would"}, {"start": "03:10:37", "end": "03:10:43", "text": "put on your service report instead."}, {"start": "03:10:41", "end": "03:10:47", "text": "Interesting question."}, {"start": "03:10:43", "end": "03:10:49", "text": "They also saying arbor soft disclosure."}, {"start": "03:10:47", "end": "03:10:51", "text": "Now, just to address um"}, {"start": "03:10:49", "end": "03:10:52", "text": ">> Agents of Closure, a couple of people"}, {"start": "03:10:51", "end": "03:10:55", "text": "mentioned in the chat was saying that it"}, {"start": "03:10:52", "end": "03:10:57", "text": "was sus. It's 100% sus. It It made me"}, {"start": "03:10:55", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "angry to watch it, in fact, because as"}, {"start": "03:10:57", "end": "03:11:00", "text": "I'm going through the dock, every"}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:04", "text": "contributor to that doc was part of the"}, {"start": "03:11:00", "end": "03:11:07", "text": "Intel community, whether it was Alzando,"}, {"start": "03:11:04", "end": "03:11:09", "text": "Christopher Melon, CIA. Um, and then you"}, {"start": "03:11:07", "end": "03:11:11", "text": "get to Hal Putoff, who I've said on this"}, {"start": "03:11:09", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "channel for a long time is is part of"}, {"start": "03:11:11", "end": "03:11:17", "text": "disinformation, but I couldn't really"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:19", "text": "prove it. Um I I do have Dod's interview"}, {"start": "03:11:17", "end": "03:11:20", "text": "from 2019 where he said that Halputoff"}, {"start": "03:11:19", "end": "03:11:23", "text": "tried to recruit rec recruit him for a"}, {"start": "03:11:20", "end": "03:11:24", "text": "disinformation campaign. So So Dodie did"}, {"start": "03:11:23", "end": "03:11:27", "text": "say that but again it's Richard Dodie so"}, {"start": "03:11:24", "end": "03:11:28", "text": "you don't know if he's a double agent"}, {"start": "03:11:27", "end": "03:11:30", "text": "and a triple A. You don't know what he"}, {"start": "03:11:28", "end": "03:11:32", "text": "is but he's always been connected to"}, {"start": "03:11:30", "end": "03:11:33", "text": "Putoff. He worked for him. I proved that"}, {"start": "03:11:32", "end": "03:11:34", "text": "he's Dodie tried to hide that but I"}, {"start": "03:11:33", "end": "03:11:36", "text": "proved that as well. I found those"}, {"start": "03:11:34", "end": "03:11:39", "text": "records. But Hal Putoff said in the age"}, {"start": "03:11:36", "end": "03:11:40", "text": "of disclosure specifically that he has"}, {"start": "03:11:39", "end": "03:11:43", "text": "done disinformation campaigns in the"}, {"start": "03:11:40", "end": "03:11:44", "text": "past. So he knows how it's done. We run"}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:46", "text": "all these operations through private"}, {"start": "03:11:44", "end": "03:11:49", "text": "contractors. That way they're not"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:51", "text": "suspect of foyer requests and that's how"}, {"start": "03:11:49", "end": "03:11:52", "text": "we get around the public ever learning"}, {"start": "03:11:51", "end": "03:11:55", "text": "about it. And when he said that I was"}, {"start": "03:11:52", "end": "03:11:58", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, what do you know what"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:11:59", "text": "you have just done?"}, {"start": "03:11:58", "end": "03:12:01", "text": "You know what you've just done?\" I said"}, {"start": "03:11:59", "end": "03:12:03", "text": "this to somebody that I met um when I"}, {"start": "03:12:01", "end": "03:12:06", "text": "was out not too long ago about the"}, {"start": "03:12:03", "end": "03:12:07", "text": "channel and the conspiracies I cover. I"}, {"start": "03:12:06", "end": "03:12:09", "text": "said, \"Uh, yeah, I cover a lot of the"}, {"start": "03:12:07", "end": "03:12:12", "text": "conspiracies. I call out a lot of names,"}, {"start": "03:12:09", "end": "03:12:14", "text": "but the Y files is aging like a fine"}, {"start": "03:12:12", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "wine. Everything that we've talked about"}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:18", "text": "since the beginning of this channel has"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:21", "text": "come true or is coming true. And that's"}, {"start": "03:12:18", "end": "03:12:24", "text": "how it's going to be because I have no"}, {"start": "03:12:21", "end": "03:12:26", "text": "agenda. I have no agenda. I don't try to"}, {"start": "03:12:24", "end": "03:12:27", "text": "prove or disprove anything. I try to"}, {"start": "03:12:26", "end": "03:12:29", "text": "show you what I can find. You make your"}, {"start": "03:12:27", "end": "03:12:31", "text": "own assessment, but if I could if I find"}, {"start": "03:12:29", "end": "03:12:33", "text": "evidence of this information, I'm going"}, {"start": "03:12:31", "end": "03:12:34", "text": "to show it to you. And it was in the age"}, {"start": "03:12:33", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "of disclosure. And I might do a video"}, {"start": "03:12:34", "end": "03:12:39", "text": "about it. I just I don't know if I'll"}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:40", "text": "get a lot of flack from the believers"}, {"start": "03:12:39", "end": "03:12:42", "text": "and I'm not really not looking to make"}, {"start": "03:12:40", "end": "03:12:44", "text": "too many enemies."}, {"start": "03:12:42", "end": "03:12:47", "text": "And that was the biggest takeaway for"}, {"start": "03:12:44", "end": "03:12:49", "text": "for me because um when when you were in"}, {"start": "03:12:47", "end": "03:12:52", "text": "Rogan, you talked about how put off and"}, {"start": "03:12:49", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "some people came at me not came at me"}, {"start": "03:12:52", "end": "03:12:58", "text": "very friendly uh conversations with some"}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:02", "text": "of the other kind of speakers uh uh in"}, {"start": "03:12:58", "end": "03:13:03", "text": "the the UFO uh world uh and said oh you"}, {"start": "03:13:02", "end": "03:13:05", "text": "know AJ was wrong about how this and"}, {"start": "03:13:03", "end": "03:13:09", "text": "that. But how specifically says in the"}, {"start": "03:13:05", "end": "03:13:11", "text": "in that document uh in in the uh in the"}, {"start": "03:13:09", "end": "03:13:13", "text": "film that"}, {"start": "03:13:11", "end": "03:13:15", "text": "that's how they were able to hide stuff"}, {"start": "03:13:13", "end": "03:13:18", "text": "by not making it a making it attached to"}, {"start": "03:13:15", "end": "03:13:20", "text": "the government but not a governmentrun"}, {"start": "03:13:18", "end": "03:13:23", "text": "program. So he specifically admits to"}, {"start": "03:13:20", "end": "03:13:25", "text": "exactly what you said that he's"}, {"start": "03:13:23", "end": "03:13:27", "text": "admitting to. That all said I'd love for"}, {"start": "03:13:25", "end": "03:13:29", "text": "you to talk to Hal. I'd love for you to"}, {"start": "03:13:27", "end": "03:13:30", "text": "talk to Richard Dodie. Uh you know I"}, {"start": "03:13:29", "end": "03:13:31", "text": "think they they would be great"}, {"start": "03:13:30", "end": "03:13:32", "text": "interviews."}, {"start": "03:13:31", "end": "03:13:34", "text": ">> I'd glad would gladly talk to Hal. I"}, {"start": "03:13:32", "end": "03:13:36", "text": "don't know if he's still in Vegas, but"}, {"start": "03:13:34", "end": "03:13:38", "text": "he certainly was for a while. I would"}, {"start": "03:13:36", "end": "03:13:40", "text": "talk to him, be very respectful, of"}, {"start": "03:13:38", "end": "03:13:42", "text": "course. Um, but Hal also has a lot of"}, {"start": "03:13:40", "end": "03:13:45", "text": "information that I would like to get"}, {"start": "03:13:42", "end": "03:13:48", "text": "into about zero point energy. He's been"}, {"start": "03:13:45", "end": "03:13:50", "text": "outspoken about that for a long time and"}, {"start": "03:13:48", "end": "03:13:54", "text": "he as a physicist he he could explain it"}, {"start": "03:13:50", "end": "03:13:55", "text": "to us about zero point because if"}, {"start": "03:13:54", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "there's a gun I don't know what they"}, {"start": "03:13:55", "end": "03:14:01", "text": "have but if there's a gun to my head I"}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:04", "text": "believe that the shadow government that"}, {"start": "03:14:01", "end": "03:14:07", "text": "runs everything which is above the"}, {"start": "03:14:04", "end": "03:14:10", "text": "United States that runs all of it I"}, {"start": "03:14:07", "end": "03:14:11", "text": "think that they have zero point energy"}, {"start": "03:14:10", "end": "03:14:14", "text": "or extremely cheap energy and"}, {"start": "03:14:11", "end": "03:14:15", "text": "anti-gravity technology and the re and"}, {"start": "03:14:14", "end": "03:14:17", "text": "that is how they can maintain their"}, {"start": "03:14:15", "end": "03:14:19", "text": "power. And you can't let everybody have"}, {"start": "03:14:17", "end": "03:14:22", "text": "that. You can't let everybody have free"}, {"start": "03:14:19", "end": "03:14:24", "text": "energy. So, as long as we're fighting"}, {"start": "03:14:22", "end": "03:14:27", "text": "over resources, those people up there,"}, {"start": "03:14:24", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "whoever they are, could just say, \"Let"}, {"start": "03:14:27", "end": "03:14:32", "text": "them fight have wars over oil, we're"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:33", "text": "good. We're good.\" And I think one of an"}, {"start": "03:14:32", "end": "03:14:35", "text": "episode coming up I'm going to do is"}, {"start": "03:14:33", "end": "03:14:39", "text": "about the trillions of dollars that were"}, {"start": "03:14:35", "end": "03:14:41", "text": "that are being spent on bunkers."}, {"start": "03:14:39", "end": "03:14:44", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. and uh maybe talk about some"}, {"start": "03:14:41", "end": "03:14:45", "text": "of what Katherine Pittz talks about with"}, {"start": "03:14:44", "end": "03:14:48", "text": "the bunkers because she's she's a former"}, {"start": "03:14:45", "end": "03:14:49", "text": "government official who's I don't want"}, {"start": "03:14:48", "end": "03:14:51", "text": "to say it's become a whistleblower but"}, {"start": "03:14:49", "end": "03:14:55", "text": "she talks about all the secret banking"}, {"start": "03:14:51", "end": "03:14:57", "text": "and how the DoD h has hides trillions of"}, {"start": "03:14:55", "end": "03:15:00", "text": "dollars and she and she said you know"}, {"start": "03:14:57", "end": "03:15:02", "text": "it's no coincidence that the department"}, {"start": "03:15:00", "end": "03:15:05", "text": "of defense has lost at that time $21"}, {"start": "03:15:02", "end": "03:15:07", "text": "trillion dollars they can't find it yet"}, {"start": "03:15:05", "end": "03:15:09", "text": "at the same time the United States"}, {"start": "03:15:07", "end": "03:15:12", "text": "national debt was $21 trillion"}, {"start": "03:15:09", "end": "03:15:14", "text": "She said, \"That's not a coincidence.\""}, {"start": "03:15:12", "end": "03:15:15", "text": "She said, \"So, they borrow money, they"}, {"start": "03:15:14", "end": "03:15:17", "text": "spend our money, and they're building"}, {"start": "03:15:15", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "these bunkers.\" And um during the"}, {"start": "03:15:17", "end": "03:15:21", "text": "interview, she was asked, \"Well, why do"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:23", "text": "you think they're doing that?\" And she"}, {"start": "03:15:21", "end": "03:15:26", "text": "said, \"Because they're worried about a"}, {"start": "03:15:23", "end": "03:15:28", "text": "glo global cataclysm."}, {"start": "03:15:26", "end": "03:15:30", "text": "That's pretty scary.\""}, {"start": "03:15:28", "end": "03:15:33", "text": ">> Especially because how many people could"}, {"start": "03:15:30", "end": "03:15:36", "text": "those bases hold? A very small amount"}, {"start": "03:15:33", "end": "03:15:37", "text": "compared to our population, obviously."}, {"start": "03:15:36", "end": "03:15:39", "text": ">> Kenny, don't I don't think you have to"}, {"start": "03:15:37", "end": "03:15:41", "text": "be scared for me. I don't think they"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:42", "text": "care. I don't I don't think the"}, {"start": "03:15:41", "end": "03:15:44", "text": "Bilderbergs who really watch watch me"}, {"start": "03:15:42", "end": "03:15:46", "text": "and and the fish."}, {"start": "03:15:44", "end": "03:15:49", "text": "Although a lot of times I'm just saying"}, {"start": "03:15:46", "end": "03:15:50", "text": "that to be hopeful. But to be honest,"}, {"start": "03:15:49", "end": "03:15:53", "text": "you know, every time I I get in my car"}, {"start": "03:15:50", "end": "03:15:55", "text": "and I turn the key, I like am I about to"}, {"start": "03:15:53", "end": "03:15:58", "text": "see a big flash of light and meet my"}, {"start": "03:15:55", "end": "03:16:00", "text": "maker? Zoom. Okay, start. It started. It"}, {"start": "03:15:58", "end": "03:16:03", "text": "started. And you know, I look I look"}, {"start": "03:16:00", "end": "03:16:04", "text": "everywhere. I check my piece. I know I'm"}, {"start": "03:16:03", "end": "03:16:07", "text": "I'm ready to draw. I'm ready to draw"}, {"start": "03:16:04", "end": "03:16:07", "text": "down."}, {"start": "03:16:07", "end": "03:16:12", "text": "Um, once the basement starts, uh, I"}, {"start": "03:16:10", "end": "03:16:14", "text": "actually may have to hire some security."}, {"start": "03:16:12", "end": "03:16:16", "text": ">> Not so much. I'm not worried about the"}, {"start": "03:16:14", "end": "03:16:18", "text": "government. I'm worried about people."}, {"start": "03:16:16", "end": "03:16:22", "text": ">> Worried about people not liking what"}, {"start": "03:16:18", "end": "03:16:22", "text": "someone else says,"}, {"start": "03:16:22", "end": "03:16:25", "text": "you know, all the big shows, all those"}, {"start": "03:16:24", "end": "03:16:27", "text": "all those guys with the big, if you look"}, {"start": "03:16:25", "end": "03:16:30", "text": "at the top 10 podcasters on Spotify,"}, {"start": "03:16:27", "end": "03:16:32", "text": "they all have tons of private security."}, {"start": "03:16:30", "end": "03:16:34", "text": "I mean, at Rogan's the most he has a lot"}, {"start": "03:16:32", "end": "03:16:38", "text": "of employees, but the employees he has"}, {"start": "03:16:34", "end": "03:16:40", "text": "the most of are security."}, {"start": "03:16:38", "end": "03:16:43", "text": "Cameras everywhere, dudes everywhere,"}, {"start": "03:16:40", "end": "03:16:45", "text": "big dangerous looking dudes."}, {"start": "03:16:43", "end": "03:16:48", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "03:16:45", "end": "03:16:49", "text": "and his situation was,"}, {"start": "03:16:48", "end": "03:16:51", "text": "\"All right, what's the address of the"}, {"start": "03:16:49", "end": "03:16:53", "text": "studio?\" I was like, \"Nah, don't worry"}, {"start": "03:16:51", "end": "03:16:55", "text": "about that. We'll send a car.\" Okay. I"}, {"start": "03:16:53", "end": "03:16:57", "text": "half expected like someone to put a bag"}, {"start": "03:16:55", "end": "03:16:59", "text": "over my head be like, \"We can't let you"}, {"start": "03:16:57", "end": "03:17:00", "text": "know where in Austin we're at.\" But it"}, {"start": "03:16:59", "end": "03:17:04", "text": "wasn't like that. So the drivers was"}, {"start": "03:17:00", "end": "03:17:05", "text": "very cool. But it's like we'll send a"}, {"start": "03:17:04", "end": "03:17:07", "text": "car to you. Don't worry about where"}, {"start": "03:17:05", "end": "03:17:11", "text": "we're at. Same with Sean Ryan. We met"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:13", "text": "off site. Met off site. But they let me"}, {"start": "03:17:11", "end": "03:17:15", "text": "let me drive to the compound. I felt"}, {"start": "03:17:13", "end": "03:17:17", "text": "like they were fans of the show and I"}, {"start": "03:17:15", "end": "03:17:18", "text": "felt like, you know, we had breakfast"}, {"start": "03:17:17", "end": "03:17:20", "text": "first and I think him and his producer"}, {"start": "03:17:18", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "were like, \"This guy's okay. This guy's"}, {"start": "03:17:20", "end": "03:17:24", "text": "he's not deep state. He's all right. He"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:27", "text": "can drive up with us.\""}, {"start": "03:17:24", "end": "03:17:30", "text": "I think."}, {"start": "03:17:27", "end": "03:17:32", "text": ">> All right, you know what else you got?"}, {"start": "03:17:30", "end": "03:17:33", "text": ">> That's it. Merry Christmas to everyone."}, {"start": "03:17:32", "end": "03:17:35", "text": ">> You could take off the most"}, {"start": "03:17:33", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "uncomfortable sweater ever now. These"}, {"start": "03:17:35", "end": "03:17:39", "text": "things are so itchy."}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:40", "text": ">> I love it. I love it."}, {"start": "03:17:39", "end": "03:17:43", "text": ">> So itchy."}, {"start": "03:17:40", "end": "03:17:44", "text": ">> There he goes. Merry Christmas."}, {"start": "03:17:43", "end": "03:17:46", "text": "All right, we'll get a couple of super"}, {"start": "03:17:44", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "chats. Let me check the chat and see if"}, {"start": "03:17:46", "end": "03:17:50", "text": "there's any feedback from any of that."}, {"start": "03:17:51", "end": "03:17:57", "text": "Better safe than sorry. Irish Sean"}, {"start": "03:17:53", "end": "03:17:59", "text": "saying people are buddy. Buddy, this is"}, {"start": "03:17:57", "end": "03:18:01", "text": "not I hope"}, {"start": "03:17:59", "end": "03:18:02", "text": ">> this is clearly not a professional"}, {"start": "03:18:01", "end": "03:18:05", "text": "operation,"}, {"start": "03:18:02", "end": "03:18:08", "text": ">> buddy. All right."}, {"start": "03:18:05", "end": "03:18:09", "text": "Hang on. I got to"}, {"start": "03:18:08", "end": "03:18:12", "text": "I I got to I text the wife to come get"}, {"start": "03:18:09", "end": "03:18:15", "text": "Come get my boy."}, {"start": "03:18:12", "end": "03:18:17", "text": "Hang on. We'll get it. Can you please"}, {"start": "03:18:15", "end": "03:18:20", "text": "come get my boy?"}, {"start": "03:18:17", "end": "03:18:20", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "03:18:21", "end": "03:18:24", "text": "All right. Hopefully she'll get that. I"}, {"start": "03:18:23", "end": "03:18:26", "text": "don't mind if he walks in front of the"}, {"start": "03:18:24", "end": "03:18:27", "text": "camera, but when he steps on the"}, {"start": "03:18:26", "end": "03:18:29", "text": "keyboard, who knows what what could"}, {"start": "03:18:27", "end": "03:18:31", "text": "happen. I got everything's kind of set"}, {"start": "03:18:29", "end": "03:18:32", "text": "up here. I don't even know if I'm still"}, {"start": "03:18:31", "end": "03:18:35", "text": "on. He might have just turned the stream"}, {"start": "03:18:32", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "off."}, {"start": "03:18:35", "end": "03:18:39", "text": "Uh Johnny, the clip of my F-150 in the"}, {"start": "03:18:37", "end": "03:18:42", "text": "driveway is a self docs. Very easy to"}, {"start": "03:18:39", "end": "03:18:45", "text": "descriate. That was an AI. I wasn't"}, {"start": "03:18:42", "end": "03:18:48", "text": "going to put my real truck on there."}, {"start": "03:18:45", "end": "03:18:50", "text": "Uh I even when I ran that AI clip, I put"}, {"start": "03:18:48", "end": "03:18:51", "text": "in a different year."}, {"start": "03:18:50", "end": "03:18:54", "text": "So, yeah, that was not my truck. I"}, {"start": "03:18:51", "end": "03:18:56", "text": "wouldn't I wouldn't do that. I I've"}, {"start": "03:18:54", "end": "03:18:57", "text": "looked at a couple of videos I've"}, {"start": "03:18:56", "end": "03:19:00", "text": "released to see if if there's I mean,"}, {"start": "03:18:57", "end": "03:19:03", "text": "because you could find me because people"}, {"start": "03:19:00", "end": "03:19:06", "text": "have. And look, if you find me, don't"}, {"start": "03:19:03", "end": "03:19:09", "text": "stop by. Um, even if it's you're"}, {"start": "03:19:06", "end": "03:19:12", "text": "awesome, you could send me an email and"}, {"start": "03:19:09", "end": "03:19:14", "text": "I'll write back to you. But, but kind of"}, {"start": "03:19:12", "end": "03:19:16", "text": "don't don't stop by the house"}, {"start": "03:19:14", "end": "03:19:18", "text": "because it's scary because I don't"}, {"start": "03:19:16", "end": "03:19:19", "text": "really know. Uh, but yeah, I wouldn't"}, {"start": "03:19:18", "end": "03:19:21", "text": "put my real truck out there. And I don't"}, {"start": "03:19:19", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "I don't think I've revealed too much"}, {"start": "03:19:21", "end": "03:19:25", "text": "information in the in the videos, like"}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:28", "text": "when you see the studio and stuff, but"}, {"start": "03:19:25", "end": "03:19:30", "text": "you can find it. You could find it, you"}, {"start": "03:19:28", "end": "03:19:31", "text": "know, if you really had to. But from my"}, {"start": "03:19:30", "end": "03:19:33", "text": "perspective, if someone goes through"}, {"start": "03:19:31", "end": "03:19:36", "text": "that trouble to really find where I live"}, {"start": "03:19:33", "end": "03:19:38", "text": "and work, I don't I can't trust you out"}, {"start": "03:19:36", "end": "03:19:40", "text": "of the box."}, {"start": "03:19:38", "end": "03:19:44", "text": "And uh, remember, my background is"}, {"start": "03:19:40", "end": "03:19:46", "text": "security and and law enforcement and and"}, {"start": "03:19:44", "end": "03:19:49", "text": "teaching martial arts to the Marines and"}, {"start": "03:19:46", "end": "03:19:51", "text": "stuff. So, I I've got that kind of,"}, {"start": "03:19:49", "end": "03:19:54", "text": "you know, I'm always on alert when I"}, {"start": "03:19:51", "end": "03:19:56", "text": "when I'm out with the wife. I'm I'"}, {"start": "03:19:54", "end": "03:19:58", "text": "she's, you know, looking around and"}, {"start": "03:19:56", "end": "03:19:59", "text": "stuff, especially New York City, and I"}, {"start": "03:19:58", "end": "03:20:01", "text": "stand like a step behind and I'm my"}, {"start": "03:19:59", "end": "03:20:03", "text": "head's on a swivel like I'm working in"}, {"start": "03:20:01", "end": "03:20:05", "text": "Secret Service because I'm, you know,"}, {"start": "03:20:03", "end": "03:20:12", "text": "I'm from the big city."}, {"start": "03:20:05", "end": "03:20:12", "text": "So, don't show up. It makes me nervous."}, {"start": "03:20:13", "end": "03:20:17", "text": "Uh Allan's got caves in in Kentucky to"}, {"start": "03:20:16", "end": "03:20:20", "text": "bug out in. You do have a lot of caves"}, {"start": "03:20:17", "end": "03:20:21", "text": "down there. Um there's a there's a cave"}, {"start": "03:20:20", "end": "03:20:25", "text": "system in Kentucky that the government"}, {"start": "03:20:21", "end": "03:20:26", "text": "owns that they uh they imminent domain"}, {"start": "03:20:25", "end": "03:20:28", "text": "from somebody. I got to find out more"}, {"start": "03:20:26", "end": "03:20:31", "text": "about that story. But they imminent"}, {"start": "03:20:28", "end": "03:20:34", "text": "domained it and uh the owner was like"}, {"start": "03:20:31", "end": "03:20:36", "text": "it's like a farmer or something. What"}, {"start": "03:20:34", "end": "03:20:38", "text": "what's this about? And went back and"}, {"start": "03:20:36", "end": "03:20:39", "text": "looked and it's like they didn't do"}, {"start": "03:20:38", "end": "03:20:43", "text": "anything with the farm but they locked"}, {"start": "03:20:39", "end": "03:20:45", "text": "off the cave. I like to get in there."}, {"start": "03:20:43", "end": "03:20:46", "text": "Ryan says it wouldn't be a bomb be a"}, {"start": "03:20:45", "end": "03:20:49", "text": "remote takeover of the vehicle. Oh,"}, {"start": "03:20:46", "end": "03:20:50", "text": "that's scary. That's scary. Then you'd"}, {"start": "03:20:49", "end": "03:20:53", "text": "be stuck."}, {"start": "03:20:50", "end": "03:20:55", "text": "Could they take over an F-150? They"}, {"start": "03:20:53", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "probably could because the self-driving"}, {"start": "03:20:55", "end": "03:21:00", "text": "in the F-150 is awesome. I know if"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:03", "text": "there's 6,000 people watching, then"}, {"start": "03:21:00", "end": "03:21:06", "text": "there's got to be 1500 F-150 owners"}, {"start": "03:21:03", "end": "03:21:08", "text": "here. You guys use Ford Blue. It just"}, {"start": "03:21:06", "end": "03:21:10", "text": "drives me to work. Once I get on the"}, {"start": "03:21:08", "end": "03:21:12", "text": "freeway, I just turn on blue. And as"}, {"start": "03:21:10", "end": "03:21:14", "text": "long as you keep your eyes up, it does"}, {"start": "03:21:12", "end": "03:21:16", "text": "all the turn. It's great."}, {"start": "03:21:14", "end": "03:21:20", "text": "I love that thing. It's the best truck I"}, {"start": "03:21:16", "end": "03:21:20", "text": "ever owned. Best vehicle I ever owned."}, {"start": "03:21:21", "end": "03:21:25", "text": "Uh, Crab Cat's coming. Grant, you've"}, {"start": "03:21:24", "end": "03:21:27", "text": "been a calling guest with Artbell, Jim"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:28", "text": "Lad, and more. Does that mean you want"}, {"start": "03:21:27", "end": "03:21:31", "text": "to be on my show? You got to email us"}, {"start": "03:21:28", "end": "03:21:34", "text": "because I'll forget. And if any of you"}, {"start": "03:21:31", "end": "03:21:37", "text": "guys have guest suggestions, we I"}, {"start": "03:21:34", "end": "03:21:42", "text": "definitely want those. Email those in to"}, {"start": "03:21:37", "end": "03:21:42", "text": "teamfiles.com or jump jump on."}, {"start": "03:21:43", "end": "03:21:47", "text": "I just lost my camera for a second. Uh"}, {"start": "03:21:45", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "yeah, Tim Pool has armed security."}, {"start": "03:21:47", "end": "03:21:53", "text": "Someone's saying in the chat, but Tim"}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:56", "text": "Pool is a is politics."}, {"start": "03:21:53", "end": "03:21:57", "text": "So, of course he does. So, I'm not"}, {"start": "03:21:56", "end": "03:21:59", "text": "surprised. I mean, not only is he"}, {"start": "03:21:57", "end": "03:22:00", "text": "politics, he's aggressive. You know, I"}, {"start": "03:21:59", "end": "03:22:03", "text": "don't think I'm an aggressive"}, {"start": "03:22:00", "end": "03:22:04", "text": "personality. And I don't want to talk"}, {"start": "03:22:03", "end": "03:22:07", "text": "about politics."}, {"start": "03:22:04", "end": "03:22:08", "text": "It's it's just boring to me and"}, {"start": "03:22:07", "end": "03:22:11", "text": "predictable."}, {"start": "03:22:08", "end": "03:22:13", "text": "You know, Tim Bull was also shot at. He"}, {"start": "03:22:11", "end": "03:22:16", "text": "was I mean, that's why he had to move"}, {"start": "03:22:13", "end": "03:22:18", "text": "out to the boonies."}, {"start": "03:22:16", "end": "03:22:21", "text": "But I'm not on Once if a guest starts to"}, {"start": "03:22:18", "end": "03:22:24", "text": "go left or right, I'm going to I'm going"}, {"start": "03:22:21", "end": "03:22:24", "text": "to stop that."}, {"start": "03:22:26", "end": "03:22:30", "text": "Mike would not trust a self-driving car"}, {"start": "03:22:28", "end": "03:22:32", "text": "doing what you Yeah, that's probably a"}, {"start": "03:22:30", "end": "03:22:33", "text": "good point. I got to keep an eye on"}, {"start": "03:22:32", "end": "03:22:36", "text": "that. I got to see if there's an"}, {"start": "03:22:33", "end": "03:22:39", "text": "override."}, {"start": "03:22:36", "end": "03:22:41", "text": "Ford FD found on road dead. Nicole, that"}, {"start": "03:22:39", "end": "03:22:44", "text": "is not funny. Now you guys are making me"}, {"start": "03:22:41", "end": "03:22:48", "text": "nervous. James loves his F-150. What's"}, {"start": "03:22:44", "end": "03:22:48", "text": "not to love?"}, {"start": "03:22:48", "end": "03:22:51", "text": "I It's It's You know, it's comfortable"}, {"start": "03:22:49", "end": "03:22:53", "text": "on the inside, but it's gnarly on the"}, {"start": "03:22:51", "end": "03:22:58", "text": "outside."}, {"start": "03:22:53", "end": "03:22:58", "text": "All right, sweet boy. Hang on."}, {"start": "03:22:58", "end": "03:23:02", "text": "All right, I'm gonna have to call her"}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:02", "text": "over."}, {"start": "03:23:04", "end": "03:23:09", "text": "Give me give me one sec. Give me one"}, {"start": "03:23:06", "end": "03:23:09", "text": "second."}, {"start": "03:23:12", "end": "03:23:15", "text": ">> Sorry, I just got your text."}, {"start": "03:23:14", "end": "03:23:17", "text": ">> Okay. I was about to throw something at"}, {"start": "03:23:15", "end": "03:23:21", "text": "the window."}, {"start": "03:23:17", "end": "03:23:21", "text": ">> He went out the um he went out the cat"}, {"start": "03:23:21", "end": "03:23:22", "text": "door."}, {"start": "03:23:21", "end": "03:23:26", "text": ">> Well, he's smart."}, {"start": "03:23:22", "end": "03:23:26", "text": ">> He is."}, {"start": "03:23:26", "end": "03:23:32", "text": ">> We're playing cards against humanity."}, {"start": "03:23:28", "end": "03:23:32", "text": ">> Okay. Are you able to get the door?"}, {"start": "03:23:32", "end": "03:23:38", "text": "All right, there they go."}, {"start": "03:23:35", "end": "03:23:39", "text": ">> As far as live streams go, this one is"}, {"start": "03:23:38", "end": "03:23:44", "text": "this one is terrible."}, {"start": "03:23:39", "end": "03:23:47", "text": ">> All right, that hurts my feelings."}, {"start": "03:23:44", "end": "03:23:49", "text": "Secape in-depth episode on three Atlas."}, {"start": "03:23:47", "end": "03:23:52", "text": "I need to find the story. I started"}, {"start": "03:23:49", "end": "03:23:53", "text": "writing one on extra solar objects cuz"}, {"start": "03:23:52", "end": "03:23:57", "text": "what? We've got three now, right? Omu,"}, {"start": "03:23:53", "end": "03:23:58", "text": "Mua, Boros, and ThreeI."}, {"start": "03:23:57", "end": "03:24:00", "text": "And there's some interesting stuff"}, {"start": "03:23:58", "end": "03:24:02", "text": "there, but I don't know if it's enough"}, {"start": "03:24:00", "end": "03:24:04", "text": "to carry a whole episode. I need to wrap"}, {"start": "03:24:02", "end": "03:24:09", "text": "up a little bit more. Maybe some ancient"}, {"start": "03:24:04", "end": "03:24:09", "text": "history, some other interesting comets,"}, {"start": "03:24:10", "end": "03:24:14", "text": "but uh but I haven't covered three"}, {"start": "03:24:12", "end": "03:24:16", "text": "because it's an it's a developing story."}, {"start": "03:24:14", "end": "03:24:19", "text": "I kind of was waiting for it to leave"}, {"start": "03:24:16", "end": "03:24:21", "text": "the solar system because I've said a few"}, {"start": "03:24:19", "end": "03:24:22", "text": "times on here that it's just a comet."}, {"start": "03:24:21", "end": "03:24:25", "text": "It's a weird comet, but it's just a"}, {"start": "03:24:22", "end": "03:24:28", "text": "comet. But I don't know that for sure."}, {"start": "03:24:25", "end": "03:24:29", "text": "So, while it's so close to the Earth, I"}, {"start": "03:24:28", "end": "03:24:31", "text": "don't know if it, you know, if the"}, {"start": "03:24:29", "end": "03:24:33", "text": "aliens are going to land, if aliens"}, {"start": "03:24:31", "end": "03:24:34", "text": "suddenly land from three eye and I"}, {"start": "03:24:33", "end": "03:24:36", "text": "release the episode about how it's just"}, {"start": "03:24:34", "end": "03:24:39", "text": "a comet. Look, we need these episodes to"}, {"start": "03:24:36", "end": "03:24:41", "text": "age like a fine wine. I hate being"}, {"start": "03:24:39", "end": "03:24:43", "text": "wrong."}, {"start": "03:24:41", "end": "03:24:45", "text": "I'm wrong a lot. I admit it. I, you"}, {"start": "03:24:43", "end": "03:24:49", "text": "know, I just talked to a fish, but I"}, {"start": "03:24:45", "end": "03:24:49", "text": "can't be that wrong."}, {"start": "03:24:53", "end": "03:24:59", "text": "Sorry. Hi, Kitty."}, {"start": "03:24:55", "end": "03:25:01", "text": "Yeah, that's my boy."}, {"start": "03:24:59", "end": "03:25:02", "text": "Uh, Stephen, I haven't done a a story on"}, {"start": "03:25:01", "end": "03:25:04", "text": "the ruling families because there are"}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:06", "text": "certain families you can't mention like"}, {"start": "03:25:04", "end": "03:25:08", "text": "the Rothschilds"}, {"start": "03:25:06", "end": "03:25:10", "text": "that will get you in trouble, but I've"}, {"start": "03:25:08", "end": "03:25:12", "text": "covered Bilderberg"}, {"start": "03:25:10", "end": "03:25:14", "text": "and which is interesting because that"}, {"start": "03:25:12", "end": "03:25:15", "text": "video is demonetized and and uh"}, {"start": "03:25:14", "end": "03:25:18", "text": "Shadowbann,"}, {"start": "03:25:15", "end": "03:25:21", "text": "but you can find it in the playlist. I"}, {"start": "03:25:18", "end": "03:25:23", "text": "think it's Illuminati volume two where I"}, {"start": "03:25:21", "end": "03:25:25", "text": "get into it. I mentioned the families in"}, {"start": "03:25:23", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "there and some like some of the US"}, {"start": "03:25:25", "end": "03:25:29", "text": "presidents that were plucked from"}, {"start": "03:25:27", "end": "03:25:32", "text": "obscurity"}, {"start": "03:25:29", "end": "03:25:35", "text": "and landed in the White House like"}, {"start": "03:25:32", "end": "03:25:37", "text": "Clinton, like Obama,"}, {"start": "03:25:35", "end": "03:25:40", "text": "Bill Clinton. Obama was running against"}, {"start": "03:25:37", "end": "03:25:42", "text": "Hillary at the time. She had as soon as"}, {"start": "03:25:40", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "Obama got invited to Bilderberg, she had"}, {"start": "03:25:42", "end": "03:25:47", "text": "to be like, \"All right, that's it. I'm"}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:50", "text": "out.\""}, {"start": "03:25:47", "end": "03:25:53", "text": "Because she had to know."}, {"start": "03:25:50", "end": "03:25:55", "text": "and global um foreign relations. I've"}, {"start": "03:25:53", "end": "03:25:59", "text": "covered them and they're interesting"}, {"start": "03:25:55", "end": "03:26:02", "text": "because I showed a bunch of people on"}, {"start": "03:25:59", "end": "03:26:03", "text": "the left left left just to get people"}, {"start": "03:26:02", "end": "03:26:05", "text": "just to get all the right leaning people"}, {"start": "03:26:03", "end": "03:26:09", "text": "like oh it's just a lefty group and then"}, {"start": "03:26:05", "end": "03:26:11", "text": "I went Dick Cheney Condisa Rice because"}, {"start": "03:26:09", "end": "03:26:15", "text": "that because it's it's not about the"}, {"start": "03:26:11", "end": "03:26:18", "text": "politics it's about the power"}, {"start": "03:26:15", "end": "03:26:19", "text": "but I I I'll see if I can cover the"}, {"start": "03:26:18", "end": "03:26:21", "text": "families a little bit more detail. I"}, {"start": "03:26:19", "end": "03:26:24", "text": "have to be careful"}, {"start": "03:26:21", "end": "03:26:25", "text": "because, you know, I don't have a Rogan"}, {"start": "03:26:24", "end": "03:26:28", "text": "deal."}, {"start": "03:26:25", "end": "03:26:31", "text": "I don't have a Mr. Ballin deal. If"}, {"start": "03:26:28", "end": "03:26:34", "text": "YouTube shut me off, that's it. That's"}, {"start": "03:26:31", "end": "03:26:37", "text": "it. You know, Rumble has said you can"}, {"start": "03:26:34", "end": "03:26:38", "text": "come over here."}, {"start": "03:26:37", "end": "03:26:41", "text": "No, there's, you know, there's no money"}, {"start": "03:26:38", "end": "03:26:41", "text": "over there."}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:46", "text": "So, I have to be careful. Lena, you love"}, {"start": "03:26:44", "end": "03:26:48", "text": "Conda?"}, {"start": "03:26:46", "end": "03:26:50", "text": "Watch the 911 documentary and then tell"}, {"start": "03:26:48", "end": "03:26:53", "text": "me how you feel. I was a big fan of hers"}, {"start": "03:26:50", "end": "03:26:59", "text": "too. I wanted her to be president."}, {"start": "03:26:53", "end": "03:26:59", "text": "Uh not not anymore. Not a fan anymore."}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:04", "text": "Uh Rogan's a scop. I love when people"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:08", "text": "say that cuz he's totally not. Remember"}, {"start": "03:27:04", "end": "03:27:09", "text": "I know him 20 years and uh Gino's close"}, {"start": "03:27:08", "end": "03:27:11", "text": "with Rogan for 20 years. You'll even"}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:14", "text": "Rogan's even said he said it on Jamie's"}, {"start": "03:27:11", "end": "03:27:17", "text": "show that he's known us for decades."}, {"start": "03:27:14", "end": "03:27:20", "text": "So, if he's a sciop, they must have"}, {"start": "03:27:17", "end": "03:27:21", "text": "slipped that in there. Baze notes. What"}, {"start": "03:27:20", "end": "03:27:23", "text": "about Patreon? I don't know what you"}, {"start": "03:27:21", "end": "03:27:24", "text": "mean."}, {"start": "03:27:23", "end": "03:27:26", "text": "And if you're asking about Patreon, then"}, {"start": "03:27:24", "end": "03:27:28", "text": "please join it. It's a great way to"}, {"start": "03:27:26", "end": "03:27:30", "text": "support the channel and really get to"}, {"start": "03:27:28", "end": "03:27:32", "text": "know us."}, {"start": "03:27:30", "end": "03:27:35", "text": "Brian, Elon needs to buy YouTube. That's"}, {"start": "03:27:32", "end": "03:27:38", "text": "a tough one because YouTube is Google."}, {"start": "03:27:35", "end": "03:27:41", "text": "So, he'd need to buy Google"}, {"start": "03:27:38", "end": "03:27:42", "text": "and YouTube makes so much money."}, {"start": "03:27:41", "end": "03:27:44", "text": "you know, when he bought Twitter,"}, {"start": "03:27:42", "end": "03:27:46", "text": "Twitter wasn't really cash flowing that"}, {"start": "03:27:44", "end": "03:27:48", "text": "well. I don't even know if it's, you"}, {"start": "03:27:46", "end": "03:27:50", "text": "know, it wasn't making money. I don't"}, {"start": "03:27:48", "end": "03:27:54", "text": "know if it's making money now. I I doubt"}, {"start": "03:27:50", "end": "03:27:55", "text": "it. But YouTube prints, they make, you"}, {"start": "03:27:54", "end": "03:27:58", "text": "guys aren't going to believe the money"}, {"start": "03:27:55", "end": "03:28:02", "text": "they make on their AdSense, they make"}, {"start": "03:27:58", "end": "03:28:04", "text": "$100 million a day."}, {"start": "03:28:02", "end": "03:28:07", "text": "So, with that kind of cash flow, that's"}, {"start": "03:28:04", "end": "03:28:09", "text": "a hard one to buy."}, {"start": "03:28:07", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "And and why would Google spin it off?"}, {"start": "03:28:09", "end": "03:28:13", "text": "Because you got the YouTube cash cow"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:16", "text": "funding all the AI stuff that they lose"}, {"start": "03:28:13", "end": "03:28:18", "text": "money on."}, {"start": "03:28:16", "end": "03:28:21", "text": "Ford fix or repair daily. Not mine,"}, {"start": "03:28:18", "end": "03:28:23", "text": "baby."}, {"start": "03:28:21", "end": "03:28:27", "text": "My truck runs and runs. You just got to"}, {"start": "03:28:23", "end": "03:28:27", "text": "keep that oil clean."}, {"start": "03:28:29", "end": "03:28:33", "text": "Elon would ruin YouTube. YouTube has"}, {"start": "03:28:31", "end": "03:28:35", "text": "come around. You know, YouTube doesn't"}, {"start": "03:28:33", "end": "03:28:38", "text": "ban people anymore. I think they're"}, {"start": "03:28:35", "end": "03:28:40", "text": "afraid to because everyone's just so"}, {"start": "03:28:38", "end": "03:28:42", "text": "aware of it. You know, all those weird"}, {"start": "03:28:40", "end": "03:28:44", "text": "conspiracies about Twitter and the and"}, {"start": "03:28:42", "end": "03:28:46", "text": "the deep state and the FBI that you"}, {"start": "03:28:44", "end": "03:28:49", "text": "would get banned for talking about were"}, {"start": "03:28:46", "end": "03:28:49", "text": "all true."}, {"start": "03:28:52", "end": "03:28:55", "text": "Thank you. Thank you for that, Rabbit."}, {"start": "03:28:54", "end": "03:28:57", "text": "God bless you and your family. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:28:55", "end": "03:29:01", "text": "it's nice to get some positive stuff on"}, {"start": "03:28:57", "end": "03:29:04", "text": "a on a Christmas day."}, {"start": "03:29:01", "end": "03:29:07", "text": "What's going on in the super chat?"}, {"start": "03:29:04", "end": "03:29:10", "text": "James Tiberius Kirk. My favorite. 20"}, {"start": "03:29:07", "end": "03:29:10", "text": "Australian."}, {"start": "03:29:16", "end": "03:29:22", "text": "Fish really need some money. I need to"}, {"start": "03:29:19", "end": "03:29:25", "text": "buy some stuff. Fish really need some"}, {"start": "03:29:22", "end": "03:29:27", "text": "money. YouTube don't pay enough. Fish"}, {"start": "03:29:25", "end": "03:29:29", "text": "really need some money. So click the"}, {"start": "03:29:27", "end": "03:29:33", "text": "super chat"}, {"start": "03:29:29", "end": "03:29:33", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "03:29:34", "end": "03:29:37", "text": "Merry Christmas to all our American"}, {"start": "03:29:35", "end": "03:29:40", "text": "brothers and sisters from Australia."}, {"start": "03:29:37", "end": "03:29:42", "text": "Your atlas is Mr. Spock's drone project."}, {"start": "03:29:40", "end": "03:29:44", "text": "Sorry about that. Uh from my family,"}, {"start": "03:29:42", "end": "03:29:46", "text": "yours. Uh thank you, Captain. Always"}, {"start": "03:29:44", "end": "03:29:50", "text": "good to hear from Captain Kirk on a on"}, {"start": "03:29:46", "end": "03:29:53", "text": "Christmas. Uh love our brothers and"}, {"start": "03:29:50", "end": "03:29:56", "text": "sisters down under."}, {"start": "03:29:53", "end": "03:29:58", "text": "Uh there's John for $5. Merry Christmas."}, {"start": "03:29:56", "end": "03:30:00", "text": "Uh love from Utah. Love that state. What"}, {"start": "03:29:58", "end": "03:30:02", "text": "you and your team is doing. Keep it up."}, {"start": "03:30:00", "end": "03:30:05", "text": "Keep it up as long as you keep showing"}, {"start": "03:30:02", "end": "03:30:05", "text": "up."}, {"start": "03:30:06", "end": "03:30:10", "text": "Stacy is a newbie here as a member."}, {"start": "03:30:08", "end": "03:30:12", "text": "Merry Christmas from Texas. Merry"}, {"start": "03:30:10", "end": "03:30:17", "text": "Christmas, Texas."}, {"start": "03:30:12", "end": "03:30:17", "text": "I lived in Texas for a year. Plano."}, {"start": "03:30:17", "end": "03:30:21", "text": "Plano is very It's very weird for a New"}, {"start": "03:30:19", "end": "03:30:23", "text": "Yorker to be in Plano because everything"}, {"start": "03:30:21", "end": "03:30:25", "text": "is flat. You can just see forever. Not"}, {"start": "03:30:23", "end": "03:30:26", "text": "used to that. You know, when you're in"}, {"start": "03:30:25", "end": "03:30:28", "text": "New York City, you don't see forever."}, {"start": "03:30:26", "end": "03:30:32", "text": "You just you can only see one side of"}, {"start": "03:30:28", "end": "03:30:35", "text": "the street. Everything is there. But uh"}, {"start": "03:30:32", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "I I become a desert person."}, {"start": "03:30:35", "end": "03:30:40", "text": "I I like Vegas. I like living in uh in"}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:42", "text": "Phoenix, Scottsdale. And that's why I go"}, {"start": "03:30:40", "end": "03:30:45", "text": "to Sedona. I like the mountains. I like"}, {"start": "03:30:42", "end": "03:30:46", "text": "the I like the heat."}, {"start": "03:30:45", "end": "03:30:48", "text": "Eos likes the sunglasses. They're not"}, {"start": "03:30:46", "end": "03:30:50", "text": "sunglasses. They're they're blue"}, {"start": "03:30:48", "end": "03:30:52", "text": "blockers with a with with a"}, {"start": "03:30:50", "end": "03:30:53", "text": "magnification. If you go on our Reddit,"}, {"start": "03:30:52", "end": "03:30:55", "text": "there's a link to them. I don't make"}, {"start": "03:30:53", "end": "03:30:57", "text": "money on that, but if you if you want a"}, {"start": "03:30:55", "end": "03:30:59", "text": "pair of them and I have them in all"}, {"start": "03:30:57", "end": "03:31:03", "text": "different magnifications. So, if I'm"}, {"start": "03:30:59", "end": "03:31:04", "text": "watching the chat, I I got those. These"}, {"start": "03:31:03", "end": "03:31:09", "text": "are"}, {"start": "03:31:04", "end": "03:31:09", "text": "Yeah, these are these are for closer."}, {"start": "03:31:09", "end": "03:31:13", "text": "These are for the stream."}, {"start": "03:31:14", "end": "03:31:16", "text": "Uh Terrell says, \"You has a bug they"}, {"start": "03:31:15", "end": "03:31:17", "text": "need to fix. Even though you're a"}, {"start": "03:31:16", "end": "03:31:21", "text": "subscriber and a member, it will tell"}, {"start": "03:31:17", "end": "03:31:23", "text": "you not chat as you don't subscribe.\""}, {"start": "03:31:21", "end": "03:31:25", "text": "uh we have it set so you have to be a"}, {"start": "03:31:23", "end": "03:31:28", "text": "subscriber for two months before you can"}, {"start": "03:31:25", "end": "03:31:29", "text": "chat. So if you're new then that's why"}, {"start": "03:31:28", "end": "03:31:32", "text": "that's not YouTube doing that. We set"}, {"start": "03:31:29", "end": "03:31:34", "text": "that and the reason is"}, {"start": "03:31:32", "end": "03:31:38", "text": "to prevent the jerks like I used to"}, {"start": "03:31:34", "end": "03:31:41", "text": "simoc cast these streams to Twitter X to"}, {"start": "03:31:38", "end": "03:31:43", "text": "Rumble to Facebook"}, {"start": "03:31:41", "end": "03:31:46", "text": "but on those platforms you can't control"}, {"start": "03:31:43", "end": "03:31:48", "text": "who can chat. So when I was streaming to"}, {"start": "03:31:46", "end": "03:31:52", "text": "Facebook, Facebook would overwhelm our"}, {"start": "03:31:48", "end": "03:31:54", "text": "comments with politics. I would be"}, {"start": "03:31:52", "end": "03:31:56", "text": "talking about aliens and something that"}, {"start": "03:31:54", "end": "03:31:58", "text": "it was and Trump did something wrong. I"}, {"start": "03:31:56", "end": "03:32:01", "text": "would be talking about Nice Templar and"}, {"start": "03:31:58", "end": "03:32:04", "text": "Biden is an idiot and and that was all"}, {"start": "03:32:01", "end": "03:32:06", "text": "the chat. So it was like enough of that."}, {"start": "03:32:04", "end": "03:32:08", "text": "Don't need it."}, {"start": "03:32:06", "end": "03:32:10", "text": "Facebook is a sewer. If you want to"}, {"start": "03:32:08", "end": "03:32:15", "text": "fight with each other about politics,"}, {"start": "03:32:10", "end": "03:32:15", "text": "have at it. Not doing it here."}, {"start": "03:32:15", "end": "03:32:19", "text": "Isn't there enough of that? Aren't you"}, {"start": "03:32:17", "end": "03:32:20", "text": "guys sick of fighting about politics?"}, {"start": "03:32:19", "end": "03:32:21", "text": "Remember, if you're fighting about"}, {"start": "03:32:20", "end": "03:32:24", "text": "politics on the internet, you are a"}, {"start": "03:32:21", "end": "03:32:27", "text": "victim of the scout."}, {"start": "03:32:24", "end": "03:32:30", "text": "Just saying."}, {"start": "03:32:27", "end": "03:32:33", "text": "Um, have I been invited as a guest to"}, {"start": "03:32:30", "end": "03:32:35", "text": "the unsubscribe podcast yet? I don't I"}, {"start": "03:32:33", "end": "03:32:38", "text": "don't think I've ever heard of it."}, {"start": "03:32:35", "end": "03:32:41", "text": "Unsubscribe podcast. Is it a a big"}, {"start": "03:32:38", "end": "03:32:45", "text": "podcast? I guess it is."}, {"start": "03:32:41", "end": "03:32:47", "text": "900,000. No, I mean unless they have"}, {"start": "03:32:45", "end": "03:32:51", "text": "invited me and I'm not aware of it,"}, {"start": "03:32:47", "end": "03:32:52", "text": "which has happened."}, {"start": "03:32:51", "end": "03:32:56", "text": "I have a couple of invites that I didn't"}, {"start": "03:32:52", "end": "03:32:56", "text": "know that I had."}, {"start": "03:32:56", "end": "03:32:59", "text": "Like, what do you think? Do Michael"}, {"start": "03:32:57", "end": "03:33:03", "text": "Null's show? I think he's too political"}, {"start": "03:32:59", "end": "03:33:03", "text": "for for me."}, {"start": "03:33:03", "end": "03:33:07", "text": "I know he talks about all kinds of"}, {"start": "03:33:05", "end": "03:33:09", "text": "stuff, but but I don't know. A little"}, {"start": "03:33:07", "end": "03:33:11", "text": "too political."}, {"start": "03:33:09", "end": "03:33:13", "text": "What do you guys think about the Ninjas"}, {"start": "03:33:11", "end": "03:33:16", "text": "are Butterflies podcast? I like those"}, {"start": "03:33:13", "end": "03:33:18", "text": "guys. They've invited me on and they're"}, {"start": "03:33:16", "end": "03:33:20", "text": "very they speak very night kindly about"}, {"start": "03:33:18", "end": "03:33:22", "text": "the channel."}, {"start": "03:33:20", "end": "03:33:24", "text": "So, uh I have some of their merch on the"}, {"start": "03:33:22", "end": "03:33:28", "text": "board behind me. So, shout out ninjas"}, {"start": "03:33:24", "end": "03:33:30", "text": "are butterflies. You guys are awesome."}, {"start": "03:33:28", "end": "03:33:32", "text": "Miss Ivy, hello from Espanola, New"}, {"start": "03:33:30", "end": "03:33:35", "text": "Mexico. Hola."}, {"start": "03:33:32", "end": "03:33:37", "text": "Loco, Facebook is very low vibration."}, {"start": "03:33:35", "end": "03:33:39", "text": "I'm going to remember that. Juel"}, {"start": "03:33:37", "end": "03:33:43", "text": "Jameson, delete your Facebook. Well, I"}, {"start": "03:33:39", "end": "03:33:46", "text": "need it for for what I do because even"}, {"start": "03:33:43", "end": "03:33:48", "text": "though uh like I haven't been on"}, {"start": "03:33:46", "end": "03:33:50", "text": "Facebook in over a year. Uh I don't even"}, {"start": "03:33:48", "end": "03:33:52", "text": "have to login. My wife has my they'll"}, {"start": "03:33:50", "end": "03:33:56", "text": "log into my Facebook which could be"}, {"start": "03:33:52", "end": "03:33:58", "text": "dangerous, but you know, I'm a good boy."}, {"start": "03:33:56", "end": "03:34:02", "text": "But the W files has over a million um"}, {"start": "03:33:58", "end": "03:34:02", "text": "followers over there,"}, {"start": "03:34:02", "end": "03:34:07", "text": "so you gota you gota got to keep it up"}, {"start": "03:34:04", "end": "03:34:07", "text": "there."}, {"start": "03:34:07", "end": "03:34:11", "text": "Yeah, everyone's saying UGG Facebook."}, {"start": "03:34:09", "end": "03:34:12", "text": "Yeah, I don't go on there. It's one of"}, {"start": "03:34:11", "end": "03:34:14", "text": "those things you have to do. Like the"}, {"start": "03:34:12", "end": "03:34:16", "text": "Instagram,"}, {"start": "03:34:14", "end": "03:34:18", "text": "I'll hear from people like semi-famous"}, {"start": "03:34:16", "end": "03:34:20", "text": "people. Hey, I I DM'd you DM'd you on"}, {"start": "03:34:18", "end": "03:34:22", "text": "Instagram. I haven't heard back from"}, {"start": "03:34:20", "end": "03:34:24", "text": "you. Well, that's cuz I'm not I don't go"}, {"start": "03:34:22", "end": "03:34:29", "text": "on Instagram like ever. My personal"}, {"start": "03:34:24", "end": "03:34:31", "text": "Instagram has zero posts and the channel"}, {"start": "03:34:29", "end": "03:34:33", "text": "Gino and Rob and Victoria do the posts"}, {"start": "03:34:31", "end": "03:34:35", "text": "on there. I don't do that. I don't go I"}, {"start": "03:34:33", "end": "03:34:37", "text": "don't even look at it."}, {"start": "03:34:35", "end": "03:34:39", "text": "I know. I know Instagram is the thing"}, {"start": "03:34:37", "end": "03:34:42", "text": "that everybody scrolls through. I mean,"}, {"start": "03:34:39", "end": "03:34:44", "text": "Jen certainly does. I try it, but I just"}, {"start": "03:34:42", "end": "03:34:47", "text": "I can't get into it. Maybe it's my"}, {"start": "03:34:44", "end": "03:34:50", "text": "attention span, but I get bored really"}, {"start": "03:34:47", "end": "03:34:53", "text": "quickly. So, I would rather read a book"}, {"start": "03:34:50", "end": "03:34:55", "text": "or play Xbox or watch TV. Not in that"}, {"start": "03:34:53", "end": "03:34:56", "text": "order, by the way."}, {"start": "03:34:55", "end": "03:35:00", "text": "Especially with the new Battlefield 6."}, {"start": "03:34:56", "end": "03:35:02", "text": "You guys play that yet? That's awesome."}, {"start": "03:35:00", "end": "03:35:05", "text": "Bloodstream with a big question. Yankees"}, {"start": "03:35:02", "end": "03:35:08", "text": "or Mets? I'm from the Bronx."}, {"start": "03:35:05", "end": "03:35:10", "text": "So, bombers all the way. In fact, my"}, {"start": "03:35:08", "end": "03:35:12", "text": "grandfather"}, {"start": "03:35:10", "end": "03:35:15", "text": "um used to work in that precinct at the"}, {"start": "03:35:12", "end": "03:35:18", "text": "stadium, the old stadium. Um I guess the"}, {"start": "03:35:15", "end": "03:35:22", "text": "old old stadium, which would be the"}, {"start": "03:35:18", "end": "03:35:24", "text": "second stadium. I'm four. So, so my"}, {"start": "03:35:22", "end": "03:35:26", "text": "grandfather, Big Andy, that was his"}, {"start": "03:35:24", "end": "03:35:30", "text": "precinct."}, {"start": "03:35:26", "end": "03:35:33", "text": "So once a year the Yankees"}, {"start": "03:35:30", "end": "03:35:36", "text": "would have a special"}, {"start": "03:35:33", "end": "03:35:39", "text": "like picnic for all the families of the"}, {"start": "03:35:36", "end": "03:35:41", "text": "cops that took care of the stadium and"}, {"start": "03:35:39", "end": "03:35:43", "text": "the took care of the neighborhood"}, {"start": "03:35:41", "end": "03:35:45", "text": "because when my grandfather was there"}, {"start": "03:35:43", "end": "03:35:50", "text": "was no there's no crime on Big Andy's"}, {"start": "03:35:45", "end": "03:35:53", "text": "beat. He he he was 6'4 320 and his"}, {"start": "03:35:50", "end": "03:35:56", "text": "nightstick was not department issue. He"}, {"start": "03:35:53", "end": "03:35:58", "text": "had a special maid. It was it was it was"}, {"start": "03:35:56", "end": "03:36:00", "text": "like a 38 inch P35"}, {"start": "03:35:58", "end": "03:36:02", "text": "that he would break on on people from"}, {"start": "03:36:00", "end": "03:36:05", "text": "time to time. This is how policing was"}, {"start": "03:36:02", "end": "03:36:07", "text": "done back in the day. So anyway, once a"}, {"start": "03:36:05", "end": "03:36:11", "text": "year the the Yankees would would do this"}, {"start": "03:36:07", "end": "03:36:13", "text": "picnic for the families and uh so we got"}, {"start": "03:36:11", "end": "03:36:15", "text": "to go out there as kids and right out on"}, {"start": "03:36:13", "end": "03:36:17", "text": "the field, you know, they'd have the hot"}, {"start": "03:36:15", "end": "03:36:21", "text": "dog vendors and all that making food for"}, {"start": "03:36:17", "end": "03:36:23", "text": "everybody and there'd be players there."}, {"start": "03:36:21", "end": "03:36:24", "text": "So you could be having it having to"}, {"start": "03:36:23", "end": "03:36:27", "text": "catch up like I mean back then it' be"}, {"start": "03:36:24", "end": "03:36:29", "text": "like Thurman Mson or something. But as I"}, {"start": "03:36:27", "end": "03:36:30", "text": "was getting getting older, you know,"}, {"start": "03:36:29", "end": "03:36:31", "text": "he's like, \"Do you still want to go to"}, {"start": "03:36:30", "end": "03:36:33", "text": "this thing?\" I'm like, \"Yeah, I want to"}, {"start": "03:36:31", "end": "03:36:36", "text": "go to it. I want to go out and stand"}, {"start": "03:36:33", "end": "03:36:38", "text": "where Dave Winfield stood yesterday. I"}, {"start": "03:36:36", "end": "03:36:40", "text": "made that leaping catch against the"}, {"start": "03:36:38", "end": "03:36:43", "text": "wall.\" Still grounded into three double"}, {"start": "03:36:40", "end": "03:36:46", "text": "plays. Double play, Dave. But amazing"}, {"start": "03:36:43", "end": "03:36:49", "text": "experience by Yankee Stadium. I don't"}, {"start": "03:36:46", "end": "03:36:50", "text": "know if they still do that. They should."}, {"start": "03:36:49", "end": "03:36:53", "text": "You know, you take care of the people"}, {"start": "03:36:50", "end": "03:36:57", "text": "that take care of you."}, {"start": "03:36:53", "end": "03:36:57", "text": "And the cops took care of those guys."}, {"start": "03:36:58", "end": "03:37:03", "text": "All right. I'm looking at I'm looking at"}, {"start": "03:37:00", "end": "03:37:07", "text": "the chats, the super stickers."}, {"start": "03:37:03", "end": "03:37:08", "text": "Liberative SMC. My wife got me a 2026"}, {"start": "03:37:07", "end": "03:37:10", "text": "White House calendar. Oh, I'm glad you"}, {"start": "03:37:08", "end": "03:37:12", "text": "got Didn't those come out great? And a"}, {"start": "03:37:10", "end": "03:37:13", "text": "Mel's whole magic seal fetus shirt for"}, {"start": "03:37:12", "end": "03:37:15", "text": "Christmas. I'm beyond stoked about it."}, {"start": "03:37:13", "end": "03:37:18", "text": "Merry Christmas, everyone. I'm glad you"}, {"start": "03:37:15", "end": "03:37:21", "text": "got that stuff. Um I hope the calendar"}, {"start": "03:37:18", "end": "03:37:22", "text": "was signed. I signed a lot of those."}, {"start": "03:37:21", "end": "03:37:24", "text": "I was actually disappointed those didn't"}, {"start": "03:37:22", "end": "03:37:26", "text": "sell as well as I hoped cuz they they"}, {"start": "03:37:24", "end": "03:37:29", "text": "came out way better than I thought and I"}, {"start": "03:37:26", "end": "03:37:32", "text": "think they're only $15 and they're super"}, {"start": "03:37:29", "end": "03:37:32", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "03:37:34", "end": "03:37:39", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "03:37:36", "end": "03:37:42", "text": "Sug guys, have you thought about doing?"}, {"start": "03:37:39", "end": "03:37:43", "text": "Yes, I'm going to work on that."}, {"start": "03:37:42", "end": "03:37:45", "text": "I don't know if I'm going to get them"}, {"start": "03:37:43", "end": "03:37:46", "text": "done."}, {"start": "03:37:45", "end": "03:37:48", "text": "I don't know if I'm going to get that"}, {"start": "03:37:46", "end": "03:37:50", "text": "done by by the end of the year, but I'm"}, {"start": "03:37:48", "end": "03:37:52", "text": "targeting the end of the year to maybe"}, {"start": "03:37:50", "end": "03:37:53", "text": "do What I'm going to do is we're going"}, {"start": "03:37:52", "end": "03:37:55", "text": "to do a W files live show in Vegas just"}, {"start": "03:37:53", "end": "03:37:57", "text": "to see how it goes because I don't know"}, {"start": "03:37:55", "end": "03:37:59", "text": "if anyone's going to want to see that."}, {"start": "03:37:57", "end": "03:38:02", "text": "If it goes well, then I'll do three."}, {"start": "03:37:59", "end": "03:38:04", "text": "We'll do like a long weekend and it'll"}, {"start": "03:38:02", "end": "03:38:06", "text": "make the shows fun. uh interactive"}, {"start": "03:38:04", "end": "03:38:09", "text": "multimedia show, familyfriendly, all"}, {"start": "03:38:06", "end": "03:38:11", "text": "that stuff. And if those go well, then"}, {"start": "03:38:09", "end": "03:38:13", "text": "I'll do maybe 10 or 12 cities. I'm"}, {"start": "03:38:11", "end": "03:38:16", "text": "already working with uh with an agent on"}, {"start": "03:38:13", "end": "03:38:17", "text": "that who's push pushing."}, {"start": "03:38:16", "end": "03:38:20", "text": "But I don't know if people would come"}, {"start": "03:38:17", "end": "03:38:22", "text": "out for it. So, I'll do a test run in"}, {"start": "03:38:20", "end": "03:38:24", "text": "Vegas and see. I think it'd be a lot of"}, {"start": "03:38:22", "end": "03:38:26", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "03:38:24", "end": "03:38:28", "text": "Play Arc Raiders. All right, I'll check"}, {"start": "03:38:26", "end": "03:38:29", "text": "it out."}, {"start": "03:38:28", "end": "03:38:32", "text": "Neil Degrass Tyson debate with"}, {"start": "03:38:29", "end": "03:38:34", "text": "Hecklefish. I think he calls him uh Mike"}, {"start": "03:38:32", "end": "03:38:36", "text": "the grass Tyson. He can't seem to get"}, {"start": "03:38:34", "end": "03:38:39", "text": "it. Scott, you like the socialist video?"}, {"start": "03:38:36", "end": "03:38:40", "text": "I'm glad. Every year I try to do a"}, {"start": "03:38:39", "end": "03:38:42", "text": "little Christmas message and I wasn't"}, {"start": "03:38:40", "end": "03:38:45", "text": "going to do one this year. I just didn't"}, {"start": "03:38:42", "end": "03:38:46", "text": "really have anything to talk about. But"}, {"start": "03:38:45", "end": "03:38:47", "text": "then I had that exchange with the"}, {"start": "03:38:46", "end": "03:38:49", "text": "garbage man who's like, \"All right, now"}, {"start": "03:38:47", "end": "03:38:50", "text": "I know. Now I know what we got to talk"}, {"start": "03:38:49", "end": "03:38:54", "text": "about. Got to talk about being good to"}, {"start": "03:38:50", "end": "03:38:54", "text": "people who are good to you.\""}, {"start": "03:38:55", "end": "03:39:01", "text": "Well, David for David Furl 982 for a"}, {"start": "03:38:58", "end": "03:39:01", "text": "hundred bucks. Whoa."}, {"start": "03:39:06", "end": "03:39:12", "text": "They see me swimming in my waist. Send"}, {"start": "03:39:10", "end": "03:39:14", "text": "me money cuz you know that my bowl is"}, {"start": "03:39:12", "end": "03:39:16", "text": "dirty. Cuz you know my bowl is dirty."}, {"start": "03:39:14", "end": "03:39:18", "text": "Cuz you know my bowl is dirty. Want to"}, {"start": "03:39:16", "end": "03:39:22", "text": "smell my bowl. It's dirty. Come sniff my"}, {"start": "03:39:18", "end": "03:39:25", "text": "bowl. It's dirty. My poop is nasty. It's"}, {"start": "03:39:22", "end": "03:39:27", "text": "floating. Please tip me cuz you know"}, {"start": "03:39:25", "end": "03:39:29", "text": "that my bowl is dirty. Cuz you know my"}, {"start": "03:39:27", "end": "03:39:33", "text": "bowl is dirty. cuz you know my dirty"}, {"start": "03:39:29", "end": "03:39:34", "text": "want to smell my dirty sit."}, {"start": "03:39:33", "end": "03:39:37", "text": ">> David loves the show. Spreading the"}, {"start": "03:39:34", "end": "03:39:38", "text": "word, spreading us like a virus. Have a"}, {"start": "03:39:37", "end": "03:39:41", "text": "merry Christmas. Pray. Please bring back"}, {"start": "03:39:38", "end": "03:39:42", "text": "hecklefish slippers. I'll let them know."}, {"start": "03:39:41", "end": "03:39:43", "text": "Uh all the girls wear those in the"}, {"start": "03:39:42", "end": "03:39:48", "text": "office. They say they're really"}, {"start": "03:39:43", "end": "03:39:49", "text": "comfortable. But uh but did you not get"}, {"start": "03:39:48", "end": "03:39:52", "text": "yours? Because we I don't think we have"}, {"start": "03:39:49", "end": "03:39:54", "text": "them anymore at all. But uh but I'll let"}, {"start": "03:39:52", "end": "03:39:57", "text": "I'll let them know."}, {"start": "03:39:54", "end": "03:39:59", "text": "Um, yes, the socialist. I did upload it"}, {"start": "03:39:57", "end": "03:40:01", "text": "twice, but once was the backstage, and"}, {"start": "03:39:59", "end": "03:40:04", "text": "backstage usually gets those kinds of"}, {"start": "03:40:01", "end": "03:40:04", "text": "videos first."}, {"start": "03:40:05", "end": "03:40:10", "text": "THX, uh, uh, GTA 5 was a lot of fun."}, {"start": "03:40:08", "end": "03:40:12", "text": "Never did missions. That's working for"}, {"start": "03:40:10", "end": "03:40:14", "text": "the man. I stole planes, garbage. It was"}, {"start": "03:40:12", "end": "03:40:16", "text": "so fun to steal the planes, wasn't it?"}, {"start": "03:40:14", "end": "03:40:19", "text": "Uh, it's crazy to see the GTA 6 trailer"}, {"start": "03:40:16", "end": "03:40:22", "text": "out now. I don't know how long that's"}, {"start": "03:40:19", "end": "03:40:24", "text": "going to take."}, {"start": "03:40:22", "end": "03:40:26", "text": "Brady the Weir concert was amazing. He"}, {"start": "03:40:24", "end": "03:40:28", "text": "is an amazing show. He almost three"}, {"start": "03:40:26", "end": "03:40:31", "text": "hours he played and he's what 62 years"}, {"start": "03:40:28", "end": "03:40:32", "text": "old. Amazing show. If you've never seen"}, {"start": "03:40:31", "end": "03:40:36", "text": "Weird Ali, you should definitely see him"}, {"start": "03:40:32", "end": "03:40:38", "text": "and take the kids. Have a lot of fun."}, {"start": "03:40:36", "end": "03:40:41", "text": "And I mean when he sings the Star Wars"}, {"start": "03:40:38", "end": "03:40:44", "text": "saga first he starts with with Yoda"}, {"start": "03:40:41", "end": "03:40:47", "text": "which is an early hit of his."}, {"start": "03:40:44", "end": "03:40:49", "text": "Uh that I mean that's that's what I"}, {"start": "03:40:47", "end": "03:40:51", "text": "talked about with him backstage for you"}, {"start": "03:40:49", "end": "03:40:53", "text": "know just for a minute. You know, we had"}, {"start": "03:40:51", "end": "03:40:55", "text": "the VIP package, but that wasn't really"}, {"start": "03:40:53", "end": "03:40:58", "text": "anything fancy. Anybody can do it. And"}, {"start": "03:40:55", "end": "03:41:02", "text": "what you got for VIP was"}, {"start": "03:40:58", "end": "03:41:03", "text": "to you get a picture up with Weird Al"}, {"start": "03:41:02", "end": "03:41:05", "text": "and then he'll sign a bunch of stuff."}, {"start": "03:41:03", "end": "03:41:07", "text": "And how it worked is you just wait"}, {"start": "03:41:05", "end": "03:41:10", "text": "online"}, {"start": "03:41:07", "end": "03:41:12", "text": "and it was had to be a thousand people."}, {"start": "03:41:10", "end": "03:41:14", "text": "So you wait line and then he weird stand"}, {"start": "03:41:12", "end": "03:41:16", "text": "in front of the poster and shake his"}, {"start": "03:41:14", "end": "03:41:18", "text": "hand, take his picture and he does his"}, {"start": "03:41:16", "end": "03:41:21", "text": "thing and then you get off the line and"}, {"start": "03:41:18", "end": "03:41:22", "text": "and then after everybody does that then"}, {"start": "03:41:21", "end": "03:41:23", "text": "there's a new line to have him sign"}, {"start": "03:41:22", "end": "03:41:25", "text": "stuff and we weren't going to do that."}, {"start": "03:41:23", "end": "03:41:27", "text": "It would be there all night cuz remember"}, {"start": "03:41:25", "end": "03:41:29", "text": "he played three hours and he had Puddles"}, {"start": "03:41:27", "end": "03:41:31", "text": "the clown has an opening act who was"}, {"start": "03:41:29", "end": "03:41:33", "text": "hilarious."}, {"start": "03:41:31", "end": "03:41:35", "text": "So anyway, uh everyone's just taking"}, {"start": "03:41:33", "end": "03:41:38", "text": "their picture with Al and it's just one"}, {"start": "03:41:35", "end": "03:41:40", "text": "after the other after the other and"}, {"start": "03:41:38", "end": "03:41:42", "text": "there's like PA's there moving it along."}, {"start": "03:41:40", "end": "03:41:43", "text": "Let's go. Let's go."}, {"start": "03:41:42", "end": "03:41:45", "text": "Pardon me. That's"}, {"start": "03:41:43", "end": "03:41:49", "text": ">> Isn't it amazing what passes for a live"}, {"start": "03:41:45", "end": "03:41:51", "text": "stream these days? Boy, oh boy."}, {"start": "03:41:49", "end": "03:41:53", "text": ">> So, he's shaking hands and he's doing"}, {"start": "03:41:51", "end": "03:41:54", "text": "the pictures and it's finally my turn"}, {"start": "03:41:53", "end": "03:41:57", "text": "and I'm a little bit nervous. I'm a"}, {"start": "03:41:54", "end": "03:41:58", "text": "little star struck by Weirdo."}, {"start": "03:41:57", "end": "03:42:02", "text": "And I go up there, I shake his hand and"}, {"start": "03:41:58", "end": "03:42:05", "text": "I say, \"Al, this show was as good as the"}, {"start": "03:42:02", "end": "03:42:08", "text": "first one I saw you in on in July 27th,"}, {"start": "03:42:05", "end": "03:42:10", "text": "1983.\" And he and he's just like this"}, {"start": "03:42:08", "end": "03:42:12", "text": "and he goes, \"What? You were at that"}, {"start": "03:42:10", "end": "03:42:14", "text": "show?\" I said, 'Bottom Line New York. I"}, {"start": "03:42:12", "end": "03:42:16", "text": "was there. He said, ' And you gave away"}, {"start": "03:42:14", "end": "03:42:18", "text": "coupons for Rocky Road Ice Cream because"}, {"start": "03:42:16", "end": "03:42:20", "text": "that was a big song of his. He said,"}, {"start": "03:42:18", "end": "03:42:22", "text": "\"The one with Dr. D?\" I said, \"Dr. D and"}, {"start": "03:42:20", "end": "03:42:23", "text": "Benny Bell was there and Sam and Eddie.\""}, {"start": "03:42:22", "end": "03:42:25", "text": "He's like, \"And he wanted to talk about"}, {"start": "03:42:23", "end": "03:42:27", "text": "it.\" And as soon as I saw that we were"}, {"start": "03:42:25", "end": "03:42:28", "text": "having a moment, I panicked. I panic. I"}, {"start": "03:42:27", "end": "03:42:31", "text": "was like, \"It was great to meet you.\""}, {"start": "03:42:28", "end": "03:42:33", "text": "And I ran. I And and I just blew it. I"}, {"start": "03:42:31", "end": "03:42:35", "text": "blew it. I felt all the pressure of"}, {"start": "03:42:33", "end": "03:42:37", "text": "everyone behind me and the PAS. I I blew"}, {"start": "03:42:35", "end": "03:42:40", "text": "it. So maybe we can get him on the"}, {"start": "03:42:37", "end": "03:42:42", "text": "basement. You can watch me just nerd out"}, {"start": "03:42:40", "end": "03:42:45", "text": "as a weird owl stand. But that was my"}, {"start": "03:42:42", "end": "03:42:46", "text": "weird owl moment."}, {"start": "03:42:45", "end": "03:42:48", "text": "It's the second chance I got to meet him"}, {"start": "03:42:46", "end": "03:42:50", "text": "because at that first show in the in"}, {"start": "03:42:48", "end": "03:42:52", "text": "1983,"}, {"start": "03:42:50", "end": "03:42:56", "text": "he he did the same thing. He he sat at"}, {"start": "03:42:52", "end": "03:42:57", "text": "like an old table and just signed signed"}, {"start": "03:42:56", "end": "03:43:00", "text": "stuff. I had that signature for years. I"}, {"start": "03:42:57", "end": "03:43:01", "text": "don't know what happened to it. Um but"}, {"start": "03:43:00", "end": "03:43:02", "text": "the bottom line, there was maybe a"}, {"start": "03:43:01", "end": "03:43:06", "text": "hundred people in that audience. And"}, {"start": "03:43:02", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "what's crazy is you that that concert"}, {"start": "03:43:06", "end": "03:43:11", "text": "which that was his first tour ever."}, {"start": "03:43:09", "end": "03:43:13", "text": "Uh that concert's on YouTube. I"}, {"start": "03:43:11", "end": "03:43:15", "text": "downloaded all those just in case. And"}, {"start": "03:43:13", "end": "03:43:18", "text": "you can hear my aunt laughing in the"}, {"start": "03:43:15", "end": "03:43:20", "text": "video which is really funny."}, {"start": "03:43:18", "end": "03:43:25", "text": "But in that in that 90 second in"}, {"start": "03:43:20", "end": "03:43:25", "text": "exchange with Al. He was very very nice."}, {"start": "03:43:26", "end": "03:43:32", "text": "Um Bremon I don't say my age but I also"}, {"start": "03:43:29", "end": "03:43:35", "text": "don't hide it. You know, I'm You're 42."}, {"start": "03:43:32", "end": "03:43:38", "text": "You're young. I think I'm I think I"}, {"start": "03:43:35", "end": "03:43:40", "text": "turned I'm 53."}, {"start": "03:43:38", "end": "03:43:42", "text": "Yeah. I started the channel when I was"}, {"start": "03:43:40", "end": "03:43:44", "text": "48,"}, {"start": "03:43:42", "end": "03:43:46", "text": "47, something like that. So, I don't"}, {"start": "03:43:44", "end": "03:43:47", "text": "talk about it that much, but it's not"}, {"start": "03:43:46", "end": "03:43:50", "text": "that I'm embarrassed. I don't really"}, {"start": "03:43:47", "end": "03:43:52", "text": "mind. It's just I don't know. Feels"}, {"start": "03:43:50", "end": "03:43:55", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "03:43:52", "end": "03:43:58", "text": "Like, how old are you? Feels weird."}, {"start": "03:43:55", "end": "03:44:01", "text": "Isn't 42 the the answer to life and and"}, {"start": "03:43:58", "end": "03:44:04", "text": "the universe? Am"}, {"start": "03:44:01", "end": "03:44:06", "text": "I correct about that,"}, {"start": "03:44:04", "end": "03:44:08", "text": "Bra? God, that made me love some weird."}, {"start": "03:44:06", "end": "03:44:11", "text": "Oh, he's so he's so fun. I'm glad you're"}, {"start": "03:44:08", "end": "03:44:12", "text": "having fun on the stream. Puddles is"}, {"start": "03:44:11", "end": "03:44:14", "text": "from Atlanta. You saw him when he was"}, {"start": "03:44:12", "end": "03:44:16", "text": "still performing a little coffee shop."}, {"start": "03:44:14", "end": "03:44:18", "text": "He was super funny. I didn't know he was"}, {"start": "03:44:16", "end": "03:44:21", "text": "and I don't like clowns, by the way. I'm"}, {"start": "03:44:18", "end": "03:44:23", "text": "not I don't like clowns at all. Uh but"}, {"start": "03:44:21", "end": "03:44:26", "text": "he was really funny and he had someone"}, {"start": "03:44:23", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "maybe it was him with a camera in the"}, {"start": "03:44:26", "end": "03:44:32", "text": "audience. It was very interactive. He"}, {"start": "03:44:29", "end": "03:44:34", "text": "was really really funny. So immediately"}, {"start": "03:44:32", "end": "03:44:36", "text": "I, you know, tracked down all his"}, {"start": "03:44:34", "end": "03:44:38", "text": "Instagrams and his Facebooks and all"}, {"start": "03:44:36", "end": "03:44:43", "text": "that stuff to see to follow him wherever"}, {"start": "03:44:38", "end": "03:44:43", "text": "he is. He was weird though."}, {"start": "03:44:44", "end": "03:44:51", "text": "Was weird Al in character as Al."}, {"start": "03:44:49", "end": "03:44:54", "text": "I, you know, he's been famous for so"}, {"start": "03:44:51", "end": "03:44:55", "text": "long. I don't know if he even, you know,"}, {"start": "03:44:54", "end": "03:44:58", "text": "I don't know what he would be like with"}, {"start": "03:44:55", "end": "03:44:59", "text": "his family. Like what I'm like with you"}, {"start": "03:44:58", "end": "03:45:02", "text": "guys. This is how I'm like with"}, {"start": "03:44:59", "end": "03:45:03", "text": "everybody. I just I I turn up the energy"}, {"start": "03:45:02", "end": "03:45:05", "text": "a little bit for the stream just so it's"}, {"start": "03:45:03", "end": "03:45:08", "text": "not so flat."}, {"start": "03:45:05", "end": "03:45:09", "text": "But this is this is who who it is. But"}, {"start": "03:45:08", "end": "03:45:11", "text": "you know, I've only had the channel for"}, {"start": "03:45:09", "end": "03:45:13", "text": "a couple years. Nobody knew who I was"}, {"start": "03:45:11", "end": "03:45:16", "text": "before. But Weird Al's been famous since"}, {"start": "03:45:13", "end": "03:45:19", "text": "he was 21 22 years. I mean, when in ' 83"}, {"start": "03:45:16", "end": "03:45:21", "text": "when I saw that show, he was maybe 21 or"}, {"start": "03:45:19", "end": "03:45:25", "text": "22. He was young. And he's been super"}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:27", "text": "famous all that time. And I just that"}, {"start": "03:45:25", "end": "03:45:29", "text": "has to change you to be famous for 40"}, {"start": "03:45:27", "end": "03:45:31", "text": "years."}, {"start": "03:45:29", "end": "03:45:35", "text": "But he's got a you know family and kids"}, {"start": "03:45:31", "end": "03:45:37", "text": "and stuff. So I assume he's not wacky at"}, {"start": "03:45:35", "end": "03:45:39", "text": "home."}, {"start": "03:45:37", "end": "03:45:41", "text": "But I mean during that brief chat he was"}, {"start": "03:45:39", "end": "03:45:43", "text": "normal. You know he was actually excited"}, {"start": "03:45:41", "end": "03:45:45", "text": "about that first show."}, {"start": "03:45:43", "end": "03:45:48", "text": "But you know I didn't talk to him long"}, {"start": "03:45:45", "end": "03:45:50", "text": "enough to to get a sense of it. But if I"}, {"start": "03:45:48", "end": "03:45:52", "text": "had him on the basement it's already"}, {"start": "03:45:50", "end": "03:45:54", "text": "been in my mind. I would want to talk to"}, {"start": "03:45:52", "end": "03:45:56", "text": "him about what is it like to be just"}, {"start": "03:45:54", "end": "03:45:58", "text": "super famous for your whole life? Like"}, {"start": "03:45:56", "end": "03:46:01", "text": "how do you know"}, {"start": "03:45:58", "end": "03:46:03", "text": "when you're really being authentic? Or"}, {"start": "03:46:01", "end": "03:46:04", "text": "is just the famous person the authentic"}, {"start": "03:46:03", "end": "03:46:06", "text": "person?"}, {"start": "03:46:04", "end": "03:46:09", "text": "Like you guys can tell when YouTubers"}, {"start": "03:46:06", "end": "03:46:11", "text": "are authentic and when they're not,"}, {"start": "03:46:09", "end": "03:46:13", "text": "can't you?"}, {"start": "03:46:11", "end": "03:46:15", "text": "I think it's one of the secrets to the"}, {"start": "03:46:13", "end": "03:46:18", "text": "platform is you got to be yourself. You"}, {"start": "03:46:15", "end": "03:46:21", "text": "know, I during one of when I was"}, {"start": "03:46:18", "end": "03:46:22", "text": "streaming very early, there was lots of"}, {"start": "03:46:21", "end": "03:46:24", "text": "stuff about myself I was embarrassed"}, {"start": "03:46:22", "end": "03:46:27", "text": "about and really didn't want to talk"}, {"start": "03:46:24", "end": "03:46:29", "text": "about, you know, and I nothing comes to"}, {"start": "03:46:27", "end": "03:46:32", "text": "mind. But I learned very quickly to just"}, {"start": "03:46:29", "end": "03:46:33", "text": "own it and just, you know, if there's"}, {"start": "03:46:32", "end": "03:46:35", "text": "something stupid about me, just make fun"}, {"start": "03:46:33", "end": "03:46:37", "text": "of it with everybody else. And it's just"}, {"start": "03:46:35", "end": "03:46:39", "text": "that much easier. Then I don't have to"}, {"start": "03:46:37", "end": "03:46:42", "text": "be weird and lie about it. I don't have"}, {"start": "03:46:39", "end": "03:46:45", "text": "to pretend. I don't have to hide"}, {"start": "03:46:42", "end": "03:46:47", "text": "secrets. That's why if you that's why I"}, {"start": "03:46:45", "end": "03:46:49", "text": "told you I'm 53. I didn't I was a little"}, {"start": "03:46:47", "end": "03:46:51", "text": "cute about it, but"}, {"start": "03:46:49", "end": "03:46:54", "text": "I don't really talk about it. And I"}, {"start": "03:46:51", "end": "03:46:55", "text": "think it's just just if you just be"}, {"start": "03:46:54", "end": "03:46:57", "text": "yourself and and own it and just"}, {"start": "03:46:55", "end": "03:46:59", "text": "whatever's embarrassing about you, just"}, {"start": "03:46:57", "end": "03:47:01", "text": "just let it hang out because everyone's"}, {"start": "03:46:59", "end": "03:47:04", "text": "got a thing. And from that moment on, I"}, {"start": "03:47:01", "end": "03:47:05", "text": "just people kind of responded to that."}, {"start": "03:47:04", "end": "03:47:08", "text": "And I think it's just understanding like"}, {"start": "03:47:05", "end": "03:47:10", "text": "we nobody's nobody's perfect. We all"}, {"start": "03:47:08", "end": "03:47:13", "text": "have flaws. So just own your flaws. J"}, {"start": "03:47:10", "end": "03:47:16", "text": "Scooter guy keeping it real. Yeah, I I I"}, {"start": "03:47:13", "end": "03:47:16", "text": "try"}, {"start": "03:47:17", "end": "03:47:22", "text": "uh Enchanted. I enjoyed Allen Hot Ones."}, {"start": "03:47:19", "end": "03:47:24", "text": "I did too. And he did really good. But"}, {"start": "03:47:22", "end": "03:47:26", "text": "here's the weird thing about that. Al's"}, {"start": "03:47:24", "end": "03:47:30", "text": "a vegetarian."}, {"start": "03:47:26", "end": "03:47:31", "text": "So, is he not that anymore?"}, {"start": "03:47:30", "end": "03:47:34", "text": "Because I know plenty of vegetarians"}, {"start": "03:47:31", "end": "03:47:36", "text": "that stop being vegetarian. I was"}, {"start": "03:47:34", "end": "03:47:39", "text": "vegetarian for one summer."}, {"start": "03:47:36", "end": "03:47:42", "text": "Uh and then, you know, I I was in my"}, {"start": "03:47:39", "end": "03:47:44", "text": "20s. So, I don't know. May maybe there's"}, {"start": "03:47:42", "end": "03:47:46", "text": "a girl I liked who was a vegetarian or"}, {"start": "03:47:44", "end": "03:47:48", "text": "whatever reason. And I stopped being a"}, {"start": "03:47:46", "end": "03:47:49", "text": "vegetarian cuz I went over dad's house"}, {"start": "03:47:48", "end": "03:47:52", "text": "and he was throwing steaks on the"}, {"start": "03:47:49", "end": "03:47:54", "text": "barbecue, big thick uh New York strips."}, {"start": "03:47:52", "end": "03:47:57", "text": "And it was like that's it. I'm out."}, {"start": "03:47:54", "end": "03:48:00", "text": "Vegetarian done."}, {"start": "03:47:57", "end": "03:48:00", "text": "Steak, dad."}, {"start": "03:48:03", "end": "03:48:07", "text": "I'm just checking see if I missed"}, {"start": "03:48:05", "end": "03:48:09", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "03:48:07", "end": "03:48:12", "text": "If you fast forward on live stream, you"}, {"start": "03:48:09", "end": "03:48:12", "text": "could turn me into Max Hedro."}, {"start": "03:48:14", "end": "03:48:18", "text": "Maybe that'd be a fun episode to redo is"}, {"start": "03:48:16", "end": "03:48:20", "text": "the uh the Max Headroom story. I always"}, {"start": "03:48:18", "end": "03:48:23", "text": "like that one and it didn't do that"}, {"start": "03:48:20", "end": "03:48:26", "text": "well. So, either I can fix it or it"}, {"start": "03:48:23", "end": "03:48:28", "text": "won't do that well again."}, {"start": "03:48:26", "end": "03:48:30", "text": "Mitch 410, what about the Galact"}, {"start": "03:48:28", "end": "03:48:33", "text": "Galactic Federation"}, {"start": "03:48:30", "end": "03:48:37", "text": "um for claim secret Galactic Federation"}, {"start": "03:48:33", "end": "03:48:39", "text": "of Aliens? I've heard that and um"}, {"start": "03:48:37", "end": "03:48:41", "text": "I didn't think there was much to it, but"}, {"start": "03:48:39", "end": "03:48:43", "text": "but I have become a believer in the"}, {"start": "03:48:41", "end": "03:48:45", "text": "secret space program. Now, I don't know"}, {"start": "03:48:43", "end": "03:48:47", "text": "if that means there's a collaboration"}, {"start": "03:48:45", "end": "03:48:50", "text": "with aliens. I don't know that, but I do"}, {"start": "03:48:47", "end": "03:48:52", "text": "believe there's a secret space program"}, {"start": "03:48:50", "end": "03:48:53", "text": "and maybe that's part of it. We need to"}, {"start": "03:48:52", "end": "03:48:56", "text": "find somebody with information. Maybe"}, {"start": "03:48:53", "end": "03:48:59", "text": "it's maybe it's Katherine Fitz. Find"}, {"start": "03:48:56", "end": "03:49:01", "text": "somebody with information about that."}, {"start": "03:48:59", "end": "03:49:06", "text": "So, I don't know about the alien thing,"}, {"start": "03:49:01", "end": "03:49:08", "text": "but my gut tells me yes."}, {"start": "03:49:06", "end": "03:49:10", "text": "Uh, Greens from Denmark. Merry Christmas"}, {"start": "03:49:08", "end": "03:49:12", "text": "to you and the channel. One of my uh"}, {"start": "03:49:10", "end": "03:49:14", "text": "favorites. Love the channel. Especially"}, {"start": "03:49:12", "end": "03:49:15", "text": "when you go down rabbit holes. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:49:14", "end": "03:49:17", "text": "those are the best. Those are my"}, {"start": "03:49:15", "end": "03:49:20", "text": "favorite too. It's rabbit holes. And"}, {"start": "03:49:17", "end": "03:49:21", "text": "there is Gunner Nation for 851. Hooked"}, {"start": "03:49:20", "end": "03:49:22", "text": "on your channel. Thanks for all you do."}, {"start": "03:49:21", "end": "03:49:25", "text": "Gunner Nation at YouTube here. Hey,"}, {"start": "03:49:22", "end": "03:49:25", "text": "Gunnar."}, {"start": "03:49:30", "end": "03:49:35", "text": "Uh, BNG Killers, Waiting for Stranger"}, {"start": "03:49:33", "end": "03:49:37", "text": "Things, Volume 2, 6 PM. How do you find"}, {"start": "03:49:35", "end": "03:49:38", "text": "how you find the series? I thought I"}, {"start": "03:49:37", "end": "03:49:40", "text": "would love it. I start I started"}, {"start": "03:49:38", "end": "03:49:43", "text": "watching it three times, I just can't"}, {"start": "03:49:40", "end": "03:49:48", "text": "get into it. Um, you know, maybe I'm"}, {"start": "03:49:43", "end": "03:49:49", "text": "just missing it, but I'm not sure."}, {"start": "03:49:48", "end": "03:49:51", "text": "Or maybe because I wrote a screenplay"}, {"start": "03:49:49", "end": "03:49:53", "text": "about kids in the 80s and the Montalk"}, {"start": "03:49:51", "end": "03:49:54", "text": "experiment, and it annoys me that that"}, {"start": "03:49:53", "end": "03:49:58", "text": "show's so successful. Maybe I'm just"}, {"start": "03:49:54", "end": "03:50:02", "text": "jealous. I don't know. I need some deep"}, {"start": "03:49:58", "end": "03:50:04", "text": "therapy to to get to the bottom of that."}, {"start": "03:50:02", "end": "03:50:05", "text": "Paul makes a very good point. Paul, by"}, {"start": "03:50:04", "end": "03:50:07", "text": "the way, the biggest supporter of the of"}, {"start": "03:50:05", "end": "03:50:08", "text": "the channel in history. To succeed on"}, {"start": "03:50:07", "end": "03:50:12", "text": "YouTube, you have to be yourself or be a"}, {"start": "03:50:08", "end": "03:50:14", "text": "soc sociopath. Both are true."}, {"start": "03:50:12", "end": "03:50:18", "text": "Um, I don't think I'm a sociopath,"}, {"start": "03:50:14", "end": "03:50:22", "text": "though. I hope not. I guess I guess I'm"}, {"start": "03:50:18", "end": "03:50:22", "text": "not if I'm wondering it."}, {"start": "03:50:23", "end": "03:50:27", "text": "Like I remember talking to a therapist a"}, {"start": "03:50:24", "end": "03:50:29", "text": "long time ago about am I a narcissist"}, {"start": "03:50:27", "end": "03:50:31", "text": "because I just I feel so selfish like"}, {"start": "03:50:29", "end": "03:50:32", "text": "everything's about me. And she said"}, {"start": "03:50:31", "end": "03:50:35", "text": "because you're asking me that you're"}, {"start": "03:50:32", "end": "03:50:37", "text": "not. I was like okay. She said every"}, {"start": "03:50:35", "end": "03:50:39", "text": "everybody's and it's a phrase I still"}, {"start": "03:50:37", "end": "03:50:42", "text": "use all the time is everybody's the star"}, {"start": "03:50:39", "end": "03:50:42", "text": "of their own movie."}, {"start": "03:50:44", "end": "03:50:50", "text": "Brahmo 83 said uh you made his day. I"}, {"start": "03:50:46", "end": "03:50:53", "text": "hope so. Or he forgot about me"}, {"start": "03:50:50", "end": "03:50:56", "text": "within 15 seconds."}, {"start": "03:50:53", "end": "03:50:58", "text": "Uh, Sky says, \"I'm 532 and yes, 42 is"}, {"start": "03:50:56", "end": "03:51:02", "text": "the answer to everything.\" Yeah, Gen"}, {"start": "03:50:58", "end": "03:51:04", "text": "Xers know that reference."}, {"start": "03:51:02", "end": "03:51:07", "text": "Mary Ham, I'm 50, 50 years old. I can"}, {"start": "03:51:04", "end": "03:51:09", "text": "catch kick and stretch. I'm 50. Of"}, {"start": "03:51:07", "end": "03:51:11", "text": "course, you could do it."}, {"start": "03:51:09", "end": "03:51:15", "text": "I could still get my kicks just as high,"}, {"start": "03:51:11", "end": "03:51:17", "text": "but but only a couple of times. It's not"}, {"start": "03:51:15", "end": "03:51:20", "text": "not like I I mean, but the the best"}, {"start": "03:51:17", "end": "03:51:22", "text": "shape I was martial arts wise is my like"}, {"start": "03:51:20", "end": "03:51:23", "text": "late 30s."}, {"start": "03:51:22", "end": "03:51:25", "text": "where it's very acrobatic. I but I just"}, {"start": "03:51:23", "end": "03:51:28", "text": "can't do it anymore. And a lot of it is"}, {"start": "03:51:25", "end": "03:51:32", "text": "fear because I I can just get hurt so"}, {"start": "03:51:28", "end": "03:51:34", "text": "easily now. Like I used to play ball and"}, {"start": "03:51:32", "end": "03:51:37", "text": "we were in Scottsdale."}, {"start": "03:51:34", "end": "03:51:40", "text": "Uh I was on a hike with Jen. I picked up"}, {"start": "03:51:37", "end": "03:51:42", "text": "a nice rock and I just to show off, you"}, {"start": "03:51:40", "end": "03:51:44", "text": "know, how far I could throw it. I hucked"}, {"start": "03:51:42", "end": "03:51:47", "text": "that thing"}, {"start": "03:51:44", "end": "03:51:50", "text": "and and and as I let it go, I felt just"}, {"start": "03:51:47", "end": "03:51:52", "text": "a little in my shoulder. Uh-oh. That"}, {"start": "03:51:50", "end": "03:51:55", "text": "didn't feel right. And by the time we"}, {"start": "03:51:52", "end": "03:51:56", "text": "got home, I couldn't lift my arm. And"}, {"start": "03:51:55", "end": "03:52:00", "text": "then by the end of the day, it was just"}, {"start": "03:51:56", "end": "03:52:02", "text": "shooting stars. And it turned out that I"}, {"start": "03:52:00", "end": "03:52:03", "text": "gave myself"}, {"start": "03:52:02", "end": "03:52:06", "text": "uh it's called frozen shoulder or"}, {"start": "03:52:03", "end": "03:52:09", "text": "adhesive capsulitis, also known as"}, {"start": "03:52:06", "end": "03:52:11", "text": "50-year-old shoulder. And"}, {"start": "03:52:09", "end": "03:52:13", "text": "I didn't want to go to the doctor, but I"}, {"start": "03:52:11", "end": "03:52:15", "text": "never felt pain like that before. By the"}, {"start": "03:52:13", "end": "03:52:18", "text": "way, it still hurts. And it's five"}, {"start": "03:52:15", "end": "03:52:21", "text": "years. Uh I could not put on a shirt. I"}, {"start": "03:52:18", "end": "03:52:24", "text": "couldn't lift my arm above here for two"}, {"start": "03:52:21", "end": "03:52:26", "text": "years. So, like any man, I was reluctant"}, {"start": "03:52:24", "end": "03:52:29", "text": "to go to the doctor. I finally did. So,"}, {"start": "03:52:26", "end": "03:52:30", "text": "in Phoenix, I found I wanted the best"}, {"start": "03:52:29", "end": "03:52:32", "text": "sports doctor I could find. So, I went"}, {"start": "03:52:30", "end": "03:52:34", "text": "to the guys that that handle the"}, {"start": "03:52:32", "end": "03:52:36", "text": "Cardinals, you know, I figured if they"}, {"start": "03:52:34", "end": "03:52:38", "text": "could fix those guys up. So, they"}, {"start": "03:52:36", "end": "03:52:40", "text": "x-rayed my shoulder. He told me what I"}, {"start": "03:52:38", "end": "03:52:42", "text": "had. I said, \"How long for it feels"}, {"start": "03:52:40", "end": "03:52:44", "text": "better?\" He's like, \"Uh, 18 months if"}, {"start": "03:52:42", "end": "03:52:45", "text": "you're lucky. 3 years, but you're always"}, {"start": "03:52:44", "end": "03:52:47", "text": "going to feel it.\" He was like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "03:52:45", "end": "03:52:49", "text": "no.\" I said, 'Am I going to be able to"}, {"start": "03:52:47", "end": "03:52:52", "text": "play ball again? You know, because I was"}, {"start": "03:52:49", "end": "03:52:54", "text": "I was playing softball all until I was"}, {"start": "03:52:52", "end": "03:52:55", "text": "an old man. And he's like, \"Well, what"}, {"start": "03:52:54", "end": "03:52:57", "text": "position did you play?\" I said, \"Third"}, {"start": "03:52:55", "end": "03:52:58", "text": "base.\" He said, \"You might want to look"}, {"start": "03:52:57", "end": "03:53:00", "text": "at second.\" I said, \"Really?\" He's like,"}, {"start": "03:52:58", "end": "03:53:03", "text": "\"Yeah, your arm will never be the same.\""}, {"start": "03:53:00", "end": "03:53:04", "text": "And I just walked out of there like all"}, {"start": "03:53:03", "end": "03:53:08", "text": "because I threw a rock to show off to my"}, {"start": "03:53:04", "end": "03:53:10", "text": "wife who couldn't care less."}, {"start": "03:53:08", "end": "03:53:12", "text": "So"}, {"start": "03:53:10", "end": "03:53:14", "text": "that's why I'm extra that's why I'm"}, {"start": "03:53:12", "end": "03:53:17", "text": "extra careful."}, {"start": "03:53:14", "end": "03:53:20", "text": "Uh, rebellious. You're 37 going on 60."}, {"start": "03:53:17", "end": "03:53:22", "text": "Yeah, I felt that. WT Garner, a disabled"}, {"start": "03:53:20", "end": "03:53:24", "text": "vet. Sympathize with your pains. You"}, {"start": "03:53:22", "end": "03:53:27", "text": "can't compare a sports injury to what"}, {"start": "03:53:24", "end": "03:53:29", "text": "you've gone through, man. But I"}, {"start": "03:53:27", "end": "03:53:31", "text": "appreciate it. Wolf, you had frozen"}, {"start": "03:53:29", "end": "03:53:33", "text": "shoulder. Yeah, my brother-in-law Eric's"}, {"start": "03:53:31", "end": "03:53:36", "text": "going through it now. It's rough. And"}, {"start": "03:53:33", "end": "03:53:37", "text": "his is just just happened. You know, I"}, {"start": "03:53:36", "end": "03:53:41", "text": "triggered it. His just happened, which"}, {"start": "03:53:37", "end": "03:53:43", "text": "is that's worse for him because"}, {"start": "03:53:41", "end": "03:53:45", "text": "that means he has a very high chance of"}, {"start": "03:53:43", "end": "03:53:49", "text": "it happening in the other shoulder. I"}, {"start": "03:53:45", "end": "03:53:49", "text": "couldn't even imagine."}, {"start": "03:53:51", "end": "03:53:55", "text": "But frozen shoulder is is the worst."}, {"start": "03:53:53", "end": "03:53:57", "text": "Frightening uh rotator cuff. I was"}, {"start": "03:53:55", "end": "03:53:59", "text": "worried that it was my rotator cuff at"}, {"start": "03:53:57", "end": "03:54:01", "text": "first,"}, {"start": "03:53:59", "end": "03:54:03", "text": "but I also figured going in there if"}, {"start": "03:54:01", "end": "03:54:05", "text": "it's a rotator cuff that's fixable. I'll"}, {"start": "03:54:03", "end": "03:54:08", "text": "even do I'll even do surgery or"}, {"start": "03:54:05", "end": "03:54:11", "text": "whatever. But there's nothing to do with"}, {"start": "03:54:08", "end": "03:54:12", "text": "frozen shoulder because"}, {"start": "03:54:11", "end": "03:54:14", "text": "adhesive capsulitis, you've got your"}, {"start": "03:54:12", "end": "03:54:16", "text": "shoulder joint, right? That so"}, {"start": "03:54:14", "end": "03:54:19", "text": "everything moves around it. But the"}, {"start": "03:54:16", "end": "03:54:21", "text": "injury causes the tissue, the cartilage"}, {"start": "03:54:19", "end": "03:54:25", "text": "to swell around the joint, so you just"}, {"start": "03:54:21", "end": "03:54:26", "text": "can't move you can't move it. So I asked"}, {"start": "03:54:25", "end": "03:54:28", "text": "the doctor everything. I said, \"I'll do"}, {"start": "03:54:26", "end": "03:54:30", "text": "surgery. I'll do what?\" I said, \"Is it"}, {"start": "03:54:28", "end": "03:54:31", "text": "physical therapy?\" He said, \"You can do"}, {"start": "03:54:30", "end": "03:54:33", "text": "it, but it's really not going to"}, {"start": "03:54:31", "end": "03:54:35", "text": "accelerate anything.\" He said, \"You"}, {"start": "03:54:33", "end": "03:54:38", "text": "you're just going to be in a lot of pain"}, {"start": "03:54:35", "end": "03:54:41", "text": "twice a week.\" So, I skipped that. He"}, {"start": "03:54:38", "end": "03:54:41", "text": "said, \"You just got to wait.\""}, {"start": "03:54:42", "end": "03:54:48", "text": "It was the worst worst injury ever."}, {"start": "03:54:45", "end": "03:54:51", "text": "Broken rib. A close second though. You"}, {"start": "03:54:48", "end": "03:54:54", "text": "guys remember I broke my rib again"}, {"start": "03:54:51", "end": "03:54:57", "text": "couple of months ago. O."}, {"start": "03:54:54", "end": "03:54:58", "text": "And I wish it was a tough story like"}, {"start": "03:54:57", "end": "03:55:01", "text": "because the first time I broke my ribs"}, {"start": "03:54:58", "end": "03:55:04", "text": "was was during uh uh during a belt"}, {"start": "03:55:01", "end": "03:55:06", "text": "during my green belt test that my"}, {"start": "03:55:04", "end": "03:55:08", "text": "instructor made me fight the whole class"}, {"start": "03:55:06", "end": "03:55:10", "text": "and he just kicked the hell out of me."}, {"start": "03:55:08", "end": "03:55:12", "text": "So much so the students were quitting in"}, {"start": "03:55:10", "end": "03:55:15", "text": "the middle of the test. So that at least"}, {"start": "03:55:12", "end": "03:55:18", "text": "that's a tough guy story. When I broke"}, {"start": "03:55:15", "end": "03:55:20", "text": "my rib a few months ago, it's cuz I fell"}, {"start": "03:55:18", "end": "03:55:23", "text": "in the bathroom."}, {"start": "03:55:20", "end": "03:55:24", "text": "I just fell in the bathroom and broke my"}, {"start": "03:55:23", "end": "03:55:26", "text": "shoulder and I had that I had just a"}, {"start": "03:55:24", "end": "03:55:29", "text": "chunk of rib floating around for a"}, {"start": "03:55:26", "end": "03:55:30", "text": "while. And it's such an annoying injury."}, {"start": "03:55:29", "end": "03:55:31", "text": "At least this time I knew what to"}, {"start": "03:55:30", "end": "03:55:33", "text": "expect. Such an annoying injury because"}, {"start": "03:55:31", "end": "03:55:35", "text": "you can never get comfortable and every"}, {"start": "03:55:33", "end": "03:55:36", "text": "time you sneeze it's just oh it's the"}, {"start": "03:55:35", "end": "03:55:39", "text": "worst. You guys break a rib. You know"}, {"start": "03:55:36", "end": "03:55:40", "text": "what I'm talking about."}, {"start": "03:55:39", "end": "03:55:41", "text": "Drytos. I haven't done a Mandela effect"}, {"start": "03:55:40", "end": "03:55:43", "text": "video but if you check out the"}, {"start": "03:55:41", "end": "03:55:45", "text": "simulation theory video I get into a lot"}, {"start": "03:55:43", "end": "03:55:47", "text": "of Mandela effects there. I also cover"}, {"start": "03:55:45", "end": "03:55:49", "text": "Philip K. Dick's um analysis of it which"}, {"start": "03:55:47", "end": "03:55:51", "text": "is very very interesting where he talks"}, {"start": "03:55:49", "end": "03:55:53", "text": "about parallel realities and how he"}, {"start": "03:55:51", "end": "03:55:55", "text": "believes they exist and that's how he"}, {"start": "03:55:53", "end": "03:55:57", "text": "writes some of his books is he dreams"}, {"start": "03:55:55", "end": "03:55:59", "text": "about parallel realities like man in the"}, {"start": "03:55:57", "end": "03:56:01", "text": "high castle he said that really happened"}, {"start": "03:55:59", "end": "03:56:03", "text": "the allies really lost the war and the"}, {"start": "03:56:01", "end": "03:56:05", "text": "United States was occupied by Japan and"}, {"start": "03:56:03", "end": "03:56:07", "text": "uh and Nazi Germany he said that was"}, {"start": "03:56:05", "end": "03:56:09", "text": "true it's just in a different timeline"}, {"start": "03:56:07", "end": "03:56:12", "text": "his talk is fascinating I think it's"}, {"start": "03:56:09", "end": "03:56:14", "text": "from 1978 in uh in Paris"}, {"start": "03:56:12", "end": "03:56:18", "text": "thx you got frozen brain I don't think"}, {"start": "03:56:14", "end": "03:56:18", "text": "there's a cure for That man"}, {"start": "03:56:23", "end": "03:56:27", "text": "osteopath helped you with frozen"}, {"start": "03:56:25", "end": "03:56:29", "text": "shoulder, soft tissue, and facial work."}, {"start": "03:56:27", "end": "03:56:32", "text": "Got about 95% mobile back. That's great,"}, {"start": "03:56:29", "end": "03:56:34", "text": "Wolf. How long did it take?"}, {"start": "03:56:32", "end": "03:56:38", "text": "Yeah, I left I left that doctor's"}, {"start": "03:56:34", "end": "03:56:40", "text": "appointment just so dejected"}, {"start": "03:56:38", "end": "03:56:41", "text": "cuz you know, it's one thing to say,"}, {"start": "03:56:40", "end": "03:56:44", "text": "\"All right, I can't play ball anymore.\""}, {"start": "03:56:41", "end": "03:56:47", "text": "But when you get old, so you can't play."}, {"start": "03:56:44", "end": "03:56:49", "text": "You can do other stuff. I'm not going to"}, {"start": "03:56:47", "end": "03:56:52", "text": "golf. Uh, but the thing with the"}, {"start": "03:56:49", "end": "03:56:55", "text": "shoulder is everything hurts. Everything"}, {"start": "03:56:52", "end": "03:56:56", "text": "hurts. You can't, you know, it's like"}, {"start": "03:56:55", "end": "03:57:00", "text": "you can't really help the wife carrying"}, {"start": "03:56:56", "end": "03:57:03", "text": "groceries because you got one arm. You"}, {"start": "03:57:00", "end": "03:57:04", "text": "can't lift anything that's above here."}, {"start": "03:57:03", "end": "03:57:06", "text": "And now I'm going through an injury on"}, {"start": "03:57:04", "end": "03:57:08", "text": "my left side that I I have to go get"}, {"start": "03:57:06", "end": "03:57:11", "text": "x-rayed because it's been like three or"}, {"start": "03:57:08", "end": "03:57:13", "text": "four weeks now. So, I I can't really use"}, {"start": "03:57:11", "end": "03:57:16", "text": "this this arm. I think it's tennis"}, {"start": "03:57:13", "end": "03:57:16", "text": "elbow."}, {"start": "03:57:18", "end": "03:57:24", "text": "Marine Corps martial arts wreck both"}, {"start": "03:57:20", "end": "03:57:26", "text": "shoulders, says Oxy. I bet I bet I used"}, {"start": "03:57:24", "end": "03:57:29", "text": "to I used to train the guys in the core"}, {"start": "03:57:26", "end": "03:57:29", "text": "in New York."}, {"start": "03:57:30", "end": "03:57:34", "text": "I would do cops cops in court uh"}, {"start": "03:57:32", "end": "03:57:36", "text": "training. Cops were tougher. Cops were"}, {"start": "03:57:34", "end": "03:57:38", "text": "the cops cops were tougher than than the"}, {"start": "03:57:36", "end": "03:57:39", "text": "Marines. But it's the Marines were"}, {"start": "03:57:38", "end": "03:57:41", "text": "younger. And you know, I won't hate on"}, {"start": "03:57:39", "end": "03:57:47", "text": "the Marines. I got I got core all over"}, {"start": "03:57:41", "end": "03:57:49", "text": "my family. So, we're always forward."}, {"start": "03:57:47", "end": "03:57:51", "text": "Crypt to Kempo Brown. Good for you."}, {"start": "03:57:49", "end": "03:57:55", "text": "That's a That's a great belt. That's"}, {"start": "03:57:51", "end": "03:57:55", "text": "where all the good stuff starts."}, {"start": "03:57:55", "end": "03:58:00", "text": "Now, Kempo Brown is when we started"}, {"start": "03:57:57", "end": "03:58:00", "text": "doing ground fighting."}, {"start": "03:58:00", "end": "03:58:04", "text": "See, my teacher back then was an"}, {"start": "03:58:02", "end": "03:58:06", "text": "alternate for UFC."}, {"start": "03:58:04", "end": "03:58:07", "text": "So, I got to get some good stuff very"}, {"start": "03:58:06", "end": "03:58:10", "text": "early in the 90s when nobody else was"}, {"start": "03:58:07", "end": "03:58:12", "text": "really doing ground work."}, {"start": "03:58:10", "end": "03:58:15", "text": "Go else you like the kitty. He's a sweet"}, {"start": "03:58:12", "end": "03:58:18", "text": "boy. I have three. Only tuxedos. That's"}, {"start": "03:58:15", "end": "03:58:21", "text": "the only ones that are allowed. So, that"}, {"start": "03:58:18", "end": "03:58:23", "text": "was dummy that you saw. He's he's he's"}, {"start": "03:58:21", "end": "03:58:25", "text": "my shadow. He's he's with me everywhere."}, {"start": "03:58:23", "end": "03:58:28", "text": "And then Bubba is the main [ __ ] He's"}, {"start": "03:58:25", "end": "03:58:30", "text": "about a year old. He's a year old and"}, {"start": "03:58:28", "end": "03:58:32", "text": "he's already a giant."}, {"start": "03:58:30", "end": "03:58:33", "text": "And like when you see dummy, you go"}, {"start": "03:58:32", "end": "03:58:35", "text": "like, \"Oh, what a big cat.\" And then"}, {"start": "03:58:33", "end": "03:58:37", "text": "Bubba comes along and you're like, \"Who"}, {"start": "03:58:35", "end": "03:58:39", "text": "let the who let a bear in here?\" And"}, {"start": "03:58:37", "end": "03:58:41", "text": "then Bean is a short hair. And Bean's a"}, {"start": "03:58:39", "end": "03:58:42", "text": "Bean's a sweet boy, too. But he doesn't"}, {"start": "03:58:41", "end": "03:58:45", "text": "he won't come down because there's"}, {"start": "03:58:42", "end": "03:58:47", "text": "strangers here. So he he will hide,"}, {"start": "03:58:45", "end": "03:58:49", "text": "but he'll come down later after it gets"}, {"start": "03:58:47", "end": "03:58:51", "text": "quiet. Bean and I are a lot alike. We"}, {"start": "03:58:49", "end": "03:58:55", "text": "like to just stay alone and we don't"}, {"start": "03:58:51", "end": "03:58:57", "text": "really want to hang out with company."}, {"start": "03:58:55", "end": "03:58:58", "text": "Although tonight's not so bad because"}, {"start": "03:58:57", "end": "03:59:00", "text": "it's really just everybody from the"}, {"start": "03:58:58", "end": "03:59:03", "text": "studio."}, {"start": "03:59:00", "end": "03:59:05", "text": "The burnt cookies. Oh. Uh yeah, I had"}, {"start": "03:59:03", "end": "03:59:07", "text": "dinner in about an hour. So So no more"}, {"start": "03:59:05", "end": "03:59:09", "text": "super chats unless you're just donating."}, {"start": "03:59:07", "end": "03:59:11", "text": "But if you're going to donate, just join"}, {"start": "03:59:09", "end": "03:59:13", "text": "Patreon."}, {"start": "03:59:11", "end": "03:59:16", "text": "Um or buy some memberships for folks."}, {"start": "03:59:13", "end": "03:59:17", "text": "Don't don't don't spend your money."}, {"start": "03:59:16", "end": "03:59:19", "text": "And if money's tight, don't bother doing"}, {"start": "03:59:17", "end": "03:59:22", "text": "any of it. Don't do any of it. You can"}, {"start": "03:59:19", "end": "03:59:23", "text": "join Patreon for free. Um you don't get"}, {"start": "03:59:22", "end": "03:59:25", "text": "all the content, but you get a lot of"}, {"start": "03:59:23", "end": "03:59:26", "text": "it, and you can just join for free. Half"}, {"start": "03:59:25", "end": "03:59:28", "text": "of the Patreon subscribers over there,"}, {"start": "03:59:26", "end": "03:59:30", "text": "the members are just are just at the"}, {"start": "03:59:28", "end": "03:59:32", "text": "free level to get a couple of the extra"}, {"start": "03:59:30", "end": "03:59:35", "text": "things or just to be part of the"}, {"start": "03:59:32", "end": "03:59:39", "text": "community. And uh and I think you still"}, {"start": "03:59:35", "end": "03:59:41", "text": "get your name in the credits. I think"}, {"start": "03:59:39", "end": "03:59:44", "text": "burnt cookies making full leather boots,"}, {"start": "03:59:41", "end": "03:59:46", "text": "red leather red boots for my gal"}, {"start": "03:59:44", "end": "03:59:47", "text": "together at 13 now 26th anniversary."}, {"start": "03:59:46", "end": "03:59:48", "text": "Mark, happy anniversary. Merry"}, {"start": "03:59:47", "end": "03:59:51", "text": "Christmas. Thanks for the show. Making"}, {"start": "03:59:48", "end": "03:59:54", "text": "leather boots. I wish I knew how to do"}, {"start": "03:59:51", "end": "03:59:54", "text": "that."}, {"start": "03:59:55", "end": "03:59:57", "text": "Chris, beautiful. I'm supporting those"}, {"start": "03:59:56", "end": "03:59:59", "text": "who support me. Everything you do helps"}, {"start": "03:59:57", "end": "04:00:01", "text": "me out. So, you're part of my 1% as"}, {"start": "03:59:59", "end": "04:00:04", "text": "small as it is this year. I appreciate"}, {"start": "04:00:01", "end": "04:00:05", "text": "you, man. If money's tight, don't do it."}, {"start": "04:00:04", "end": "04:00:08", "text": "But if you can take care of those"}, {"start": "04:00:05", "end": "04:00:08", "text": "people,"}, {"start": "04:00:11", "end": "04:00:17", "text": "it's just it it just it's"}, {"start": "04:00:14", "end": "04:00:19", "text": "amazing how how they appreciate it."}, {"start": "04:00:17", "end": "04:00:22", "text": "All right. 42x10"}, {"start": "04:00:19", "end": "04:00:24", "text": "50 bucks asking for rush. I must"}, {"start": "04:00:22", "end": "04:00:24", "text": "deliver."}, {"start": "04:00:28", "end": "04:00:36", "text": "A modernday goldfish lives in style, but"}, {"start": "04:00:31", "end": "04:00:36", "text": "you haven't tipped in quite a while."}, {"start": "04:00:48", "end": "04:00:55", "text": "You haven't tipped a scent."}, {"start": "04:00:51", "end": "04:00:58", "text": "I got to pay my rent or I'll be living"}, {"start": "04:00:55", "end": "04:00:58", "text": "in a"}, {"start": "04:00:59", "end": "04:01:05", "text": "rush. Happy holidays. Any excuse to play"}, {"start": "04:01:02", "end": "04:01:07", "text": "that."}, {"start": "04:01:05", "end": "04:01:09", "text": "Uh, Razer for two to be a guest under"}, {"start": "04:01:07", "end": "04:01:12", "text": "Rodic channel one day. Uh, yeah,"}, {"start": "04:01:09", "end": "04:01:16", "text": "anytime. I talk to Gary all the time. I"}, {"start": "04:01:12", "end": "04:01:18", "text": "consider him a friend and we just really"}, {"start": "04:01:16", "end": "04:01:20", "text": "haven't connected on it. But uh but I"}, {"start": "04:01:18", "end": "04:01:24", "text": "would go on Forbidden Frontier, you"}, {"start": "04:01:20", "end": "04:01:26", "text": "know. I just when um when Gary was was"}, {"start": "04:01:24", "end": "04:01:27", "text": "here for his meetup, which if you're"}, {"start": "04:01:26", "end": "04:01:28", "text": "nerdic fans, you should come to Vegas"}, {"start": "04:01:27", "end": "04:01:33", "text": "for his meetups. They're a lot of fun."}, {"start": "04:01:28", "end": "04:01:35", "text": "Gary, Gary talks to everybody. So, uh"}, {"start": "04:01:33", "end": "04:01:37", "text": "so, you know, we we had dinner the night"}, {"start": "04:01:35", "end": "04:01:39", "text": "before and Gary's a super nice guy. The"}, {"start": "04:01:37", "end": "04:01:42", "text": "guy you see on his channel is who he is."}, {"start": "04:01:39", "end": "04:01:44", "text": "And uh we talked about Forbidden"}, {"start": "04:01:42", "end": "04:01:45", "text": "Frontier about me coming on there and I"}, {"start": "04:01:44", "end": "04:01:49", "text": "said, \"Gary, you know more about this"}, {"start": "04:01:45", "end": "04:01:51", "text": "stuff than I do.\" So, I'll come on, but"}, {"start": "04:01:49", "end": "04:01:52", "text": "I don't know what the topics until until"}, {"start": "04:01:51", "end": "04:01:55", "text": "someone in the audience says, you know,"}, {"start": "04:01:52", "end": "04:01:56", "text": "you should check this out and I never"}, {"start": "04:01:55", "end": "04:01:58", "text": "heard of whatever it is that you wanted"}, {"start": "04:01:56", "end": "04:02:00", "text": "me to do. And then I research it. So, it"}, {"start": "04:01:58", "end": "04:02:02", "text": "may seem like I know a lot of stuff, but"}, {"start": "04:02:00", "end": "04:02:04", "text": "I really I really don't. So, I'm afraid"}, {"start": "04:02:02", "end": "04:02:05", "text": "to go on there and be like, \"Yeah, I"}, {"start": "04:02:04", "end": "04:02:07", "text": "never heard of that.\" Yeah, I don't"}, {"start": "04:02:05", "end": "04:02:09", "text": "know. No, that's new to me. So, I don't"}, {"start": "04:02:07", "end": "04:02:12", "text": "know if that makes me kind of a boring"}, {"start": "04:02:09", "end": "04:02:14", "text": "podcast uh guest, but but if Gary asked"}, {"start": "04:02:12", "end": "04:02:17", "text": "me, I'd do it anytime. He's he's the"}, {"start": "04:02:14", "end": "04:02:20", "text": "best. Paul, did YouTube delete my my"}, {"start": "04:02:17", "end": "04:02:22", "text": "bush super chat or another mod? I don't"}, {"start": "04:02:20", "end": "04:02:24", "text": "I don't know. It may if it was kind of"}, {"start": "04:02:22", "end": "04:02:26", "text": "naughty, another mod might have, but I"}, {"start": "04:02:24", "end": "04:02:29", "text": "didn't. I don't delete I don't delete"}, {"start": "04:02:26", "end": "04:02:31", "text": "any of the chats. Like if there's no"}, {"start": "04:02:29", "end": "04:02:33", "text": "mods in here, then everything goes"}, {"start": "04:02:31", "end": "04:02:35", "text": "through. And some I some the naughty"}, {"start": "04:02:33", "end": "04:02:37", "text": "ones, I'll read them anyway before the"}, {"start": "04:02:35", "end": "04:02:38", "text": "mods get there. So I don't know which"}, {"start": "04:02:37", "end": "04:02:41", "text": "mods are here. AC was here before. I"}, {"start": "04:02:38", "end": "04:02:43", "text": "thought I saw Mary Jane."}, {"start": "04:02:41", "end": "04:02:45", "text": "Mary Jane is strict. She drops the"}, {"start": "04:02:43", "end": "04:02:49", "text": "hammer real hard."}, {"start": "04:02:45", "end": "04:02:52", "text": "But Paul, you're a mod. So I I don't Can"}, {"start": "04:02:49", "end": "04:02:55", "text": "mods block other mods."}, {"start": "04:02:52", "end": "04:02:58", "text": "I don't know that. But it was not me,"}, {"start": "04:02:55", "end": "04:02:58", "text": "sir."}, {"start": "04:03:02", "end": "04:03:06", "text": "Jalapeno. The earth is 70% covered in"}, {"start": "04:03:04", "end": "04:03:07", "text": "water. Okay. That's non-carbonated."}, {"start": "04:03:06", "end": "04:03:10", "text": "That's true. Therefore, the earth is"}, {"start": "04:03:07", "end": "04:03:10", "text": "flat."}, {"start": "04:03:11", "end": "04:03:15", "text": ">> Funny stuff."}, {"start": "04:03:13", "end": "04:03:18", "text": "All right. I don't do the flat earth"}, {"start": "04:03:15", "end": "04:03:20", "text": "stuff because flatearthers are so into"}, {"start": "04:03:18", "end": "04:03:23", "text": "it that I'm afraid that the that the"}, {"start": "04:03:20", "end": "04:03:26", "text": "comments would just be overwhelming"}, {"start": "04:03:23", "end": "04:03:28", "text": "because I'm not a flat-earther. But but"}, {"start": "04:03:26", "end": "04:03:31", "text": "if I watch if like I if I go on an"}, {"start": "04:03:28", "end": "04:03:33", "text": "alternate video platform like Rumble or"}, {"start": "04:03:31", "end": "04:03:35", "text": "Odyssey because YouTube won't show flat"}, {"start": "04:03:33", "end": "04:03:37", "text": "earth videos. And if I sit there and if"}, {"start": "04:03:35", "end": "04:03:39", "text": "I watch a few hours of flat earth"}, {"start": "04:03:37", "end": "04:03:41", "text": "videos, I I finished and I'm like they"}, {"start": "04:03:39", "end": "04:03:43", "text": "have a lot of interesting points. I have"}, {"start": "04:03:41", "end": "04:03:45", "text": "to like shake it out like no no no it's"}, {"start": "04:03:43", "end": "04:03:47", "text": "not flat. I'm like ah maybe Antarctica"}, {"start": "04:03:45", "end": "04:03:48", "text": "is just a big wall. Maybe it's just a"}, {"start": "04:03:47", "end": "04:03:51", "text": "big wall of ice that goes on forever. I"}, {"start": "04:03:48", "end": "04:03:51", "text": "don't know."}, {"start": "04:03:55", "end": "04:04:00", "text": "This is this is risky. Mills Donald Bar"}, {"start": "04:03:57", "end": "04:04:02", "text": "bio would be good. Former OSS CIA"}, {"start": "04:04:00", "end": "04:04:04", "text": "Epstein handler wrote space relations."}, {"start": "04:04:02", "end": "04:04:08", "text": "He would certainly be be good, but the"}, {"start": "04:04:04", "end": "04:04:10", "text": "bars as a powerful family, you know,"}, {"start": "04:04:08", "end": "04:04:11", "text": "that all connected to the Maxwells and"}, {"start": "04:04:10", "end": "04:04:13", "text": "Epstein and all that. I don't know if I"}, {"start": "04:04:11", "end": "04:04:17", "text": "want to I don't know if I want to play"}, {"start": "04:04:13", "end": "04:04:19", "text": "play in in that sandbox. Um guys,"}, {"start": "04:04:17", "end": "04:04:23", "text": "remember what happened to uh Robert"}, {"start": "04:04:19", "end": "04:04:25", "text": "Maxwell? You know, he was suicided off"}, {"start": "04:04:23", "end": "04:04:26", "text": "his yacht"}, {"start": "04:04:25", "end": "04:04:28", "text": "because, you know, when you're a"}, {"start": "04:04:26", "end": "04:04:30", "text": "billionaire with a with a giant yacht,"}, {"start": "04:04:28", "end": "04:04:31", "text": "that's you know, your life is awful."}, {"start": "04:04:30", "end": "04:04:33", "text": "So, remember they found him just"}, {"start": "04:04:31", "end": "04:04:34", "text": "floating."}, {"start": "04:04:33", "end": "04:04:38", "text": "Yeah, I don't know if I'm looking to"}, {"start": "04:04:34", "end": "04:04:38", "text": "play in that sandbox."}, {"start": "04:04:38", "end": "04:04:42", "text": "What's up? Merry Christmas 27 from"}, {"start": "04:04:41", "end": "04:04:44", "text": "Australia. Love the vids, mate. Best"}, {"start": "04:04:42", "end": "04:04:48", "text": "channel on YouTube. Haha. Bless. Same to"}, {"start": "04:04:44", "end": "04:04:48", "text": "you, man. Appreciate the support."}, {"start": "04:04:49", "end": "04:04:54", "text": "Manetta, Frozen Surgery can be cleaned"}, {"start": "04:04:50", "end": "04:04:57", "text": "out. They told me it couldn't,"}, {"start": "04:04:54", "end": "04:05:01", "text": "but now we'll know for next time."}, {"start": "04:04:57", "end": "04:05:03", "text": "I still I still feel it right there."}, {"start": "04:05:01", "end": "04:05:04", "text": "And"}, {"start": "04:05:03", "end": "04:05:05", "text": "I don't know, not too long ago, I was"}, {"start": "04:05:04", "end": "04:05:08", "text": "throwing the football around with the"}, {"start": "04:05:05", "end": "04:05:10", "text": "boys in the parking lot"}, {"start": "04:05:08", "end": "04:05:12", "text": "and I was just too afraid. I was too"}, {"start": "04:05:10", "end": "04:05:14", "text": "afraid. And then I was embarrassed"}, {"start": "04:05:12", "end": "04:05:15", "text": "because they were like, \"I thought you"}, {"start": "04:05:14", "end": "04:05:17", "text": "were an athlete.\" And I was like, \"Dude,"}, {"start": "04:05:15", "end": "04:05:20", "text": "I was, but come on, man. I I was just"}, {"start": "04:05:17", "end": "04:05:22", "text": "too afraid to really let it go"}, {"start": "04:05:20", "end": "04:05:24", "text": "because I did not want to bring it"}, {"start": "04:05:22", "end": "04:05:27", "text": "back.\" So, I was like, \"You know what?"}, {"start": "04:05:24", "end": "04:05:30", "text": "Let let them think I'm uncoordinated. I"}, {"start": "04:05:27", "end": "04:05:34", "text": "don't I don't care enough,"}, {"start": "04:05:30", "end": "04:05:34", "text": "but it did hurt my feelings."}, {"start": "04:05:34", "end": "04:05:39", "text": "Uh Cow says, \"Hell yeah, I was trying to"}, {"start": "04:05:36", "end": "04:05:40", "text": "add in everything about the stolen bones"}, {"start": "04:05:39", "end": "04:05:42", "text": "that they used for occult stuff. The"}, {"start": "04:05:40", "end": "04:05:45", "text": "bushes.\" Oh, that you're talking about"}, {"start": "04:05:42", "end": "04:05:47", "text": "the Bush family. The Bushes are the"}, {"start": "04:05:45", "end": "04:05:49", "text": "whole own conspiracy. The Bushes are the"}, {"start": "04:05:47", "end": "04:05:52", "text": "whole own conspiracy."}, {"start": "04:05:49", "end": "04:05:54", "text": "Yeah, I've hit that family hard on the"}, {"start": "04:05:52", "end": "04:05:56", "text": "channel, but I think I've hit it hard"}, {"start": "04:05:54", "end": "04:05:57", "text": "enough."}, {"start": "04:05:56", "end": "04:05:59", "text": "Retro, I see your comment. I don't know"}, {"start": "04:05:57", "end": "04:06:00", "text": "if I'm going to get to it. Thank you for"}, {"start": "04:05:59", "end": "04:06:03", "text": "the 50 bucks, asking if I read any"}, {"start": "04:06:00", "end": "04:06:05", "text": "comics. I never got into them, which is"}, {"start": "04:06:03", "end": "04:06:07", "text": "kind of strange because I I check so"}, {"start": "04:06:05", "end": "04:06:10", "text": "many nerd and geek boxes. I don't know"}, {"start": "04:06:07", "end": "04:06:12", "text": "why, but I never got into comics. Um I"}, {"start": "04:06:10", "end": "04:06:14", "text": "remember when I was a little kid, we"}, {"start": "04:06:12", "end": "04:06:16", "text": "read like Richie Rich and those kind,"}, {"start": "04:06:14", "end": "04:06:18", "text": "but I never got into like the cool"}, {"start": "04:06:16", "end": "04:06:22", "text": "comics."}, {"start": "04:06:18", "end": "04:06:24", "text": "I mean, is it too late?"}, {"start": "04:06:22", "end": "04:06:26", "text": "Cuz like Dark Horse, I I like their"}, {"start": "04:06:24", "end": "04:06:29", "text": "stuff. Is that a comic? That comics,"}, {"start": "04:06:26", "end": "04:06:29", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "04:06:34", "end": "04:06:37", "text": "Full Metal Crazy. Thanks for doing this,"}, {"start": "04:06:36", "end": "04:06:38", "text": "FedEx man who spends most holidays"}, {"start": "04:06:37", "end": "04:06:41", "text": "alone. You have your unique way of"}, {"start": "04:06:38", "end": "04:06:43", "text": "bringing worth into a home. Love the"}, {"start": "04:06:41", "end": "04:06:45", "text": "21st stream. Thanks, man. Thanks for"}, {"start": "04:06:43", "end": "04:06:48", "text": "doing what you do. FedEx drivers don't"}, {"start": "04:06:45", "end": "04:06:49", "text": "get as much love as they deserve. It's a"}, {"start": "04:06:48", "end": "04:06:51", "text": "tough job."}, {"start": "04:06:49", "end": "04:06:53", "text": "Tough job. Imagine if there was no"}, {"start": "04:06:51", "end": "04:06:56", "text": "FedEx. Imagine if we had to rely on the"}, {"start": "04:06:53", "end": "04:07:00", "text": "government to deliver packages again."}, {"start": "04:06:56", "end": "04:07:00", "text": "Why is there still a post office?"}, {"start": "04:07:01", "end": "04:07:05", "text": "If you're yelling union, then you are"}, {"start": "04:07:02", "end": "04:07:07", "text": "correct. Katie, uh, you have no idea how"}, {"start": "04:07:05", "end": "04:07:08", "text": "much this means to the ones of ones of"}, {"start": "04:07:07", "end": "04:07:10", "text": "us who are alone. Thank you so much. You"}, {"start": "04:07:08", "end": "04:07:11", "text": "and the wife are amazing. Much love from"}, {"start": "04:07:10", "end": "04:07:14", "text": "Australia. You're very welcome, Katie."}, {"start": "04:07:11", "end": "04:07:17", "text": "That's why I do this."}, {"start": "04:07:14", "end": "04:07:19", "text": "And I used to stream these from the"}, {"start": "04:07:17", "end": "04:07:21", "text": "kitchen where you can see everybody"}, {"start": "04:07:19", "end": "04:07:23", "text": "because I felt like if you're alone,"}, {"start": "04:07:21", "end": "04:07:25", "text": "maybe it's helpful to see everybody"}, {"start": "04:07:23", "end": "04:07:28", "text": "having fun in the background. But two"}, {"start": "04:07:25", "end": "04:07:30", "text": "issues. One is the noise. I can hear"}, {"start": "04:07:28", "end": "04:07:32", "text": "them from here. Maybe you can, too. I"}, {"start": "04:07:30", "end": "04:07:33", "text": "can hear them screaming from here. And I"}, {"start": "04:07:32", "end": "04:07:34", "text": "have a whole courtyard in between me and"}, {"start": "04:07:33", "end": "04:07:37", "text": "the in the kitchen. I don't know if I"}, {"start": "04:07:34", "end": "04:07:38", "text": "can show you."}, {"start": "04:07:37", "end": "04:07:43", "text": "Let me see if I can show you because I"}, {"start": "04:07:38", "end": "04:07:43", "text": "can hear them through all of this."}, {"start": "04:07:49", "end": "04:07:54", "text": "So you see, so that's outdoors"}, {"start": "04:07:52", "end": "04:07:59", "text": "and I can hear them screaming."}, {"start": "04:07:54", "end": "04:07:59", "text": "Oh no, hang on. Hang on."}, {"start": "04:08:03", "end": "04:08:09", "text": "Yeah, I know. I see it because you know"}, {"start": "04:08:06", "end": "04:08:12", "text": "what happened? I zapped it again. Are we"}, {"start": "04:08:09", "end": "04:08:14", "text": "back? Yeah, we're back. Okay, I didn't"}, {"start": "04:08:12", "end": "04:08:17", "text": "ground myself. So that's what happened."}, {"start": "04:08:14", "end": "04:08:19", "text": "So they're too noisy, so it was hard for"}, {"start": "04:08:17", "end": "04:08:22", "text": "me to concentrate. But secondly,"}, {"start": "04:08:19", "end": "04:08:24", "text": "everybody was really uncomfortable like"}, {"start": "04:08:22", "end": "04:08:29", "text": "having a thousand people watch them eat"}, {"start": "04:08:24", "end": "04:08:30", "text": "and get drunk. So and Jen and I had a I"}, {"start": "04:08:29", "end": "04:08:31", "text": "don't want to say fight a disagreement"}, {"start": "04:08:30", "end": "04:08:33", "text": "about it. She's like, you know, don't do"}, {"start": "04:08:31", "end": "04:08:37", "text": "it this year because, you know, no one"}, {"start": "04:08:33", "end": "04:08:40", "text": "wants they're eating and we say stuff"}, {"start": "04:08:37", "end": "04:08:42", "text": "that maybe shouldn't be out there. I was"}, {"start": "04:08:40", "end": "04:08:44", "text": "like, it's we have to people who are"}, {"start": "04:08:42", "end": "04:08:46", "text": "alone need to see other people just so"}, {"start": "04:08:44", "end": "04:08:49", "text": "we feel like we're all together. And"}, {"start": "04:08:46", "end": "04:08:52", "text": "then after I thought about it, it was"}, {"start": "04:08:49", "end": "04:08:54", "text": "like, h she might have a point. Besides,"}, {"start": "04:08:52", "end": "04:08:56", "text": "it's just quieter this way. You got to"}, {"start": "04:08:54", "end": "04:08:57", "text": "see Jen and Victoria. Gino popped in"}, {"start": "04:08:56", "end": "04:09:00", "text": "with some good stuff. So, they're out"}, {"start": "04:08:57", "end": "04:09:04", "text": "there. But that's why I do this is for"}, {"start": "04:09:00", "end": "04:09:06", "text": "people who are by themselves. So, uh, I"}, {"start": "04:09:04", "end": "04:09:09", "text": "don't know if I'll do it forever, but as"}, {"start": "04:09:06", "end": "04:09:11", "text": "but I'm going to try. Thanksgiving,"}, {"start": "04:09:09", "end": "04:09:14", "text": "Christmas, and New Year's I'll be here."}, {"start": "04:09:11", "end": "04:09:16", "text": "So, uh,"}, {"start": "04:09:14", "end": "04:09:18", "text": "I'm on the West Coast. So, we'll watch"}, {"start": "04:09:16", "end": "04:09:19", "text": "the ball drop. Watch the ball drop"}, {"start": "04:09:18", "end": "04:09:24", "text": "because it's easy for on for me because"}, {"start": "04:09:19", "end": "04:09:25", "text": "it's only 9:00. So, if you're"}, {"start": "04:09:24", "end": "04:09:26", "text": "by yourself and bored on New Year's,"}, {"start": "04:09:25", "end": "04:09:30", "text": "we'll hang out. We'll have fun."}, {"start": "04:09:26", "end": "04:09:33", "text": "Hecklefish will sing old lang"}, {"start": "04:09:30", "end": "04:09:36", "text": "because he has to"}, {"start": "04:09:33", "end": "04:09:41", "text": "look at Botox for shoulder."}, {"start": "04:09:36", "end": "04:09:42", "text": "H I had didn't even consider that"}, {"start": "04:09:41", "end": "04:09:44", "text": "maybe maybe the NFL has terrible"}, {"start": "04:09:42", "end": "04:09:47", "text": "doctors. Is that what I'm learning right"}, {"start": "04:09:44", "end": "04:09:47", "text": "now?"}, {"start": "04:09:47", "end": "04:09:50", "text": "I don't know. Maybe maybe that's why"}, {"start": "04:09:49", "end": "04:09:53", "text": "maybe that's why the Cardinals are"}, {"start": "04:09:50", "end": "04:09:55", "text": "terrible that year. I'm looking at Botox"}, {"start": "04:09:53", "end": "04:09:57", "text": "for my face."}, {"start": "04:09:55", "end": "04:09:59", "text": "Actually, I don't think I'm there yet,"}, {"start": "04:09:57", "end": "04:10:02", "text": "but I'm not above it. I'm not above it"}, {"start": "04:09:59", "end": "04:10:04", "text": "because Jen's like, \"You should get, you"}, {"start": "04:10:02", "end": "04:10:06", "text": "know, the wrinkles.\" I said, \"Ah, I"}, {"start": "04:10:04", "end": "04:10:08", "text": "don't mind these."}, {"start": "04:10:06", "end": "04:10:10", "text": "It's the bags under the eyes that I'd"}, {"start": "04:10:08", "end": "04:10:12", "text": "like to get rid of, but I think they got"}, {"start": "04:10:10", "end": "04:10:14", "text": "a cut for those. I'm not doing that. I'm"}, {"start": "04:10:12", "end": "04:10:16", "text": "not doing the I'm not going to cut into"}, {"start": "04:10:14", "end": "04:10:18", "text": "my face.\""}, {"start": "04:10:16", "end": "04:10:23", "text": "He says that now. Well, I'm still doing"}, {"start": "04:10:18", "end": "04:10:23", "text": "this when I'm 60. You never know."}, {"start": "04:10:23", "end": "04:10:28", "text": "Traitor 100 bucks."}, {"start": "04:10:28", "end": "04:10:32", "text": "You got nothing. Hecklefish."}, {"start": "04:10:35", "end": "04:10:45", "text": "I'm a goldfish"}, {"start": "04:10:38", "end": "04:10:48", "text": "in a steel. I swim. I wanted"}, {"start": "04:10:45", "end": "04:10:51", "text": "I wanted a tip."}, {"start": "04:10:48", "end": "04:10:55", "text": "I wanted"}, {"start": "04:10:51", "end": "04:10:57", "text": "I wanted a"}, {"start": "04:10:55", "end": "04:11:00", "text": ">> over the years. How many office chairs"}, {"start": "04:10:57", "end": "04:11:02", "text": "have you bought to do the show intro? Do"}, {"start": "04:11:00", "end": "04:11:04", "text": "you mean the one that I that I zip down"}, {"start": "04:11:02", "end": "04:11:06", "text": "on? To be honest, it's the same one"}, {"start": "04:11:04", "end": "04:11:09", "text": "since the beginning. It's the same um"}, {"start": "04:11:06", "end": "04:11:12", "text": "Amazon $15 stool that I just I took the"}, {"start": "04:11:09", "end": "04:11:14", "text": "back off because you can see it on the"}, {"start": "04:11:12", "end": "04:11:16", "text": "camera. It looks kind of weird, but it's"}, {"start": "04:11:14", "end": "04:11:19", "text": "that same stool from the from the very"}, {"start": "04:11:16", "end": "04:11:19", "text": "beginning."}, {"start": "04:11:22", "end": "04:11:26", "text": "Uh Eric, what do you think of the"}, {"start": "04:11:24", "end": "04:11:27", "text": "conspiracy on the poles of Saturn being"}, {"start": "04:11:26", "end": "04:11:29", "text": "where reality is projected from? I'm"}, {"start": "04:11:27", "end": "04:11:32", "text": "doing an episode on that. working on an"}, {"start": "04:11:29", "end": "04:11:34", "text": "episode of that uh right now, including"}, {"start": "04:11:32", "end": "04:11:36", "text": "the uh the black clip cube of Saturn and"}, {"start": "04:11:34", "end": "04:11:39", "text": "some of that other cool stuff. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "04:11:36", "end": "04:11:40", "text": "that episode is in the works. I'll"}, {"start": "04:11:39", "end": "04:11:42", "text": "fasttrack it since you asked, which"}, {"start": "04:11:40", "end": "04:11:44", "text": "happens a lot on the streams is I'll"}, {"start": "04:11:42", "end": "04:11:46", "text": "have a lot of episodes that are just"}, {"start": "04:11:44", "end": "04:11:47", "text": "sort of in the works, but if people"}, {"start": "04:11:46", "end": "04:11:50", "text": "start asking for them, we'll move them"}, {"start": "04:11:47", "end": "04:11:52", "text": "up the list."}, {"start": "04:11:50", "end": "04:11:54", "text": "That's what happened with St. Germaine"}, {"start": "04:11:52", "end": "04:11:56", "text": "was a couple of Patreon members wanted a"}, {"start": "04:11:54", "end": "04:11:58", "text": "redo of it, you know, with a little bit"}, {"start": "04:11:56", "end": "04:12:00", "text": "of a deeper dive. So, I found some new"}, {"start": "04:11:58", "end": "04:12:02", "text": "information."}, {"start": "04:12:00", "end": "04:12:04", "text": "So, if if you saw that episode come up"}, {"start": "04:12:02", "end": "04:12:06", "text": "and you're like, I saw this already."}, {"start": "04:12:04", "end": "04:12:08", "text": "There's there's all new stuff in there."}, {"start": "04:12:06", "end": "04:12:11", "text": "New jokes, one old joke, but there's"}, {"start": "04:12:08", "end": "04:12:13", "text": "there's new info in there."}, {"start": "04:12:11", "end": "04:12:17", "text": "Wolf man, you're very welcome. Thank you"}, {"start": "04:12:13", "end": "04:12:17", "text": "for the support. Thank you for the 20."}, {"start": "04:12:19", "end": "04:12:23", "text": "Mills 007 controversial part isn't"}, {"start": "04:12:21", "end": "04:12:26", "text": "making contact, but forcing craft down"}, {"start": "04:12:23", "end": "04:12:29", "text": "after contact is made. Are they forcing"}, {"start": "04:12:26", "end": "04:12:30", "text": "craft down?"}, {"start": "04:12:29", "end": "04:12:32", "text": "Isn't that something that's always"}, {"start": "04:12:30", "end": "04:12:33", "text": "bothered you is if you have this"}, {"start": "04:12:32", "end": "04:12:37", "text": "advanced technology, why why are you"}, {"start": "04:12:33", "end": "04:12:37", "text": "crashing so much?"}, {"start": "04:12:38", "end": "04:12:42", "text": "I think I asked that on on an episode"}, {"start": "04:12:40", "end": "04:12:44", "text": "and Heckleish said it must be must be"}, {"start": "04:12:42", "end": "04:12:45", "text": "women alien drivers. But that's his"}, {"start": "04:12:44", "end": "04:12:49", "text": "joke. That's not my joke. It's not my"}, {"start": "04:12:45", "end": "04:12:49", "text": "joke. That's his joke."}, {"start": "04:12:50", "end": "04:12:56", "text": "Paul, you have been very generous with"}, {"start": "04:12:52", "end": "04:12:56", "text": "the super chats. I see all of them."}, {"start": "04:12:58", "end": "04:13:02", "text": "Uh, John Kira says, \"The Snowden files"}, {"start": "04:13:00", "end": "04:13:04", "text": "confirms the ability for remote vehicle"}, {"start": "04:13:02", "end": "04:13:07", "text": "control.\" He does. For it's worth, my"}, {"start": "04:13:04", "end": "04:13:10", "text": "daily driver is 1997 Toyota. It'll run"}, {"start": "04:13:07", "end": "04:13:13", "text": "forever, man. My Honda Accord ran"}, {"start": "04:13:10", "end": "04:13:13", "text": "forever."}, {"start": "04:13:13", "end": "04:13:17", "text": "Uh, but yeah, I remember Snowden saying"}, {"start": "04:13:15", "end": "04:13:19", "text": "that and and talking about how cell"}, {"start": "04:13:17", "end": "04:13:21", "text": "phones are can be surveillance devices,"}, {"start": "04:13:19", "end": "04:13:24", "text": "which we all knew, but he says even when"}, {"start": "04:13:21", "end": "04:13:27", "text": "they're off."}, {"start": "04:13:24", "end": "04:13:28", "text": "That's interesting."}, {"start": "04:13:27", "end": "04:13:29", "text": "Yeah, I think this is what you're"}, {"start": "04:13:28", "end": "04:13:30", "text": "talking about, Paul, right? This is"}, {"start": "04:13:29", "end": "04:13:32", "text": "about political parties, but at least"}, {"start": "04:13:30", "end": "04:13:34", "text": "friendly reminder, Laura Bush killed a"}, {"start": "04:13:32", "end": "04:13:37", "text": "man and you probably don't know that. I"}, {"start": "04:13:34", "end": "04:13:39", "text": "don't think I No, I do know that because"}, {"start": "04:13:37", "end": "04:13:40", "text": "that was"}, {"start": "04:13:39", "end": "04:13:42", "text": "Was that back when George was still"}, {"start": "04:13:40", "end": "04:13:46", "text": "doing coke?"}, {"start": "04:13:42", "end": "04:13:50", "text": "Uh yeah, that yeah, the the the Bushes"}, {"start": "04:13:46", "end": "04:13:52", "text": "come up a lot in uh in Tucker's 911"}, {"start": "04:13:50", "end": "04:13:54", "text": "documentary,"}, {"start": "04:13:52", "end": "04:13:55", "text": "but I didn't need him to do that for me"}, {"start": "04:13:54", "end": "04:13:58", "text": "to know that the Bush family was evil."}, {"start": "04:13:55", "end": "04:14:00", "text": "I've talked about them."}, {"start": "04:13:58", "end": "04:14:02", "text": "Wilma Titro, good to see you. Best"}, {"start": "04:14:00", "end": "04:14:05", "text": "channel on YouTube. I don't think so,"}, {"start": "04:14:02", "end": "04:14:05", "text": "but we're top 10."}, {"start": "04:14:07", "end": "04:14:12", "text": "Claude E. Birth for two. Give a heart"}, {"start": "04:14:10", "end": "04:14:15", "text": "for heckish. Now, this is an idea I can"}, {"start": "04:14:12", "end": "04:14:15", "text": "get behind."}, {"start": "04:14:17", "end": "04:14:22", "text": ">> I didn't know this one. Um, my wife is"}, {"start": "04:14:20", "end": "04:14:26", "text": "at the rap 999 shooting."}, {"start": "04:14:22", "end": "04:14:26", "text": "There's a story there."}, {"start": "04:14:28", "end": "04:14:32", "text": "I'm going to take a look at that."}, {"start": "04:14:33", "end": "04:14:37", "text": "Oh, the Vegas shooting. Oh, I know the"}, {"start": "04:14:35", "end": "04:14:39", "text": "story there. I don't cover it because"}, {"start": "04:14:37", "end": "04:14:44", "text": "it's because it's so controversial, but"}, {"start": "04:14:39", "end": "04:14:47", "text": "yeah, that's that's an Islamic attack,"}, {"start": "04:14:44", "end": "04:14:49", "text": "but it's it it sounds so fringe because"}, {"start": "04:14:47", "end": "04:14:51", "text": "nobody really follows that. But uh but"}, {"start": "04:14:49", "end": "04:14:53", "text": "yeah, that was that was Islamic"}, {"start": "04:14:51", "end": "04:14:55", "text": "terrorism"}, {"start": "04:14:53", "end": "04:14:57", "text": "if that's what you're talking about. 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That's true."}, {"start": "04:15:28", "end": "04:15:31", "text": "to stop putting yourself down so much"}, {"start": "04:15:29", "end": "04:15:32", "text": "the best channel in our eyes because you"}, {"start": "04:15:31", "end": "04:15:34", "text": "know you not only open our eyes to"}, {"start": "04:15:32", "end": "04:15:37", "text": "certain things but also open up our"}, {"start": "04:15:34", "end": "04:15:40", "text": "minds to other possibilities."}, {"start": "04:15:37", "end": "04:15:40", "text": "I appreciate that."}, {"start": "04:15:41", "end": "04:15:47", "text": "Look, I I I don't think the channel's"}, {"start": "04:15:44", "end": "04:15:49", "text": "the best on YouTube, but for I mean, for"}, {"start": "04:15:47", "end": "04:15:51", "text": "channels that cover weird stories and"}, {"start": "04:15:49", "end": "04:15:53", "text": "with deep analysis, I think we're the"}, {"start": "04:15:51", "end": "04:15:55", "text": "best one because I think we're the we're"}, {"start": "04:15:53", "end": "04:16:00", "text": "the only one, at least the only one who"}, {"start": "04:15:55", "end": "04:16:00", "text": "does it in it with a sense of humor."}, {"start": "04:16:00", "end": "04:16:04", "text": "Knowing importance is I want you to be"}, {"start": "04:16:02", "end": "04:16:05", "text": "safe, but do an episode on the Clintons."}, {"start": "04:16:04", "end": "04:16:08", "text": "Uh-uh."}, {"start": "04:16:05", "end": "04:16:10", "text": "Uh-uh."}, {"start": "04:16:08", "end": "04:16:13", "text": "I'm not I'm more afraid of them than I"}, {"start": "04:16:10", "end": "04:16:16", "text": "am of the bushes,"}, {"start": "04:16:13", "end": "04:16:18", "text": "you know, because that that that's the"}, {"start": "04:16:16", "end": "04:16:20", "text": "bushes are a dynasty with with deep"}, {"start": "04:16:18", "end": "04:16:23", "text": "state intel community going all going"}, {"start": "04:16:20", "end": "04:16:26", "text": "all the way back to to Preston and even"}, {"start": "04:16:23", "end": "04:16:27", "text": "before, you know, this is like a you"}, {"start": "04:16:26", "end": "04:16:28", "text": "know, I don't know if they're a Plymouth"}, {"start": "04:16:27", "end": "04:16:30", "text": "Rock family, but they go back a while."}, {"start": "04:16:28", "end": "04:16:34", "text": "the Clintons. 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It's so"}, {"start": "04:16:53", "end": "04:16:57", "text": "good and so creepy."}, {"start": "04:16:55", "end": "04:17:00", "text": "But uh but yeah, that's a cool call"}, {"start": "04:16:57", "end": "04:17:02", "text": "cause calls that is go easy on the"}, {"start": "04:17:00", "end": "04:17:05", "text": "weights. All right. Looking a little"}, {"start": "04:17:02", "end": "04:17:06", "text": "look a little jacked. It looks it's"}, {"start": "04:17:05", "end": "04:17:08", "text": "natural though. I could tell I could"}, {"start": "04:17:06", "end": "04:17:10", "text": "tell you're not juicing."}, {"start": "04:17:08", "end": "04:17:12", "text": "Z's hitting the gym."}, {"start": "04:17:10", "end": "04:17:13", "text": "Jill had to start chemo this month."}, {"start": "04:17:12", "end": "04:17:15", "text": "Second round was yesterday. So weird"}, {"start": "04:17:13", "end": "04:17:16", "text": "Christmas this year. I bet it is. Thanks"}, {"start": "04:17:15", "end": "04:17:18", "text": "for the fun live stream. You're very"}, {"start": "04:17:16", "end": "04:17:20", "text": "welcome. I hope the chemo goes okay. I"}, {"start": "04:17:18", "end": "04:17:23", "text": "know how hard it is. I sat with dad many"}, {"start": "04:17:20", "end": "04:17:25", "text": "hours in that chair. Many, many hours."}, {"start": "04:17:23", "end": "04:17:28", "text": "And boy, he dreaded it. He did, you"}, {"start": "04:17:25", "end": "04:17:31", "text": "know, he did it like a champ, but he"}, {"start": "04:17:28", "end": "04:17:33", "text": "he would just got to go do the thing"}, {"start": "04:17:31", "end": "04:17:36", "text": "today. So, I just sit with him in the"}, {"start": "04:17:33", "end": "04:17:38", "text": "chair for how long it took and then"}, {"start": "04:17:36", "end": "04:17:41", "text": "help him to the car and help him throw"}, {"start": "04:17:38", "end": "04:17:44", "text": "up and all that. I hope it goes okay for"}, {"start": "04:17:41", "end": "04:17:44", "text": "you, Jill."}, {"start": "04:17:44", "end": "04:17:48", "text": "Chasing Destiny appreciates the work"}, {"start": "04:17:46", "end": "04:17:50", "text": "along with the team. If you're ever in"}, {"start": "04:17:48", "end": "04:17:52", "text": "Abacose, drinks are on me. I don't know"}, {"start": "04:17:50", "end": "04:17:57", "text": "where Abacos is,"}, {"start": "04:17:52", "end": "04:17:57", "text": "but I'm down for free drinks."}, {"start": "04:18:00", "end": "04:18:04", "text": "Uh-oh, they got quiet over there. 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Can't I can't do whiskey"}, {"start": "04:18:53", "end": "04:19:00", "text": "because I still got about an hour to go."}, {"start": "04:18:58", "end": "04:19:03", "text": "And then it'll be it'll be cringe if I"}, {"start": "04:19:00", "end": "04:19:07", "text": "have to watch this back or listen to the"}, {"start": "04:19:03", "end": "04:19:09", "text": "wife. What did you say?"}, {"start": "04:19:07", "end": "04:19:12", "text": "Why do we have three emails from"}, {"start": "04:19:09", "end": "04:19:12", "text": "lawyers?"}, {"start": "04:19:14", "end": "04:19:19", "text": "Merry Christmas from Germany. Thanks for"}, {"start": "04:19:17", "end": "04:19:21", "text": "being here. You're very welcome. Nomine"}, {"start": "04:19:19", "end": "04:19:22", "text": "nomineos."}, {"start": "04:19:21", "end": "04:19:25", "text": "That's your real haircut, man. 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Helps immensely.\" I'm glad, man."}, {"start": "04:19:30", "end": "04:19:35", "text": "Appreciate you."}, {"start": "04:19:33", "end": "04:19:38", "text": "Should we do something special for New"}, {"start": "04:19:35", "end": "04:19:38", "text": "Year's?"}, {"start": "04:19:38", "end": "04:19:41", "text": "I had some news stories, but we I didn't"}, {"start": "04:19:40", "end": "04:19:44", "text": "get to it because we kind of already"}, {"start": "04:19:41", "end": "04:19:48", "text": "talked it all out"}, {"start": "04:19:44", "end": "04:19:48", "text": "and we talked through Atlas."}, {"start": "04:19:50", "end": "04:19:54", "text": "I'm looking to see if we want to"}, {"start": "04:19:54", "end": "04:19:58", "text": "see about this Egyptian discovery."}, {"start": "04:20:01", "end": "04:20:04", "text": "Archaeologists announced the discovery"}, {"start": "04:20:02", "end": "04:20:06", "text": "of the tomb of Tipmas II in Egypt's"}, {"start": "04:20:04", "end": "04:20:08", "text": "Valley of the Kings. The first royal"}, {"start": "04:20:06", "end": "04:20:10", "text": "Egyptian tomb uncovered since Howard"}, {"start": "04:20:08", "end": "04:20:13", "text": "Howard Carter found king to common in"}, {"start": "04:20:10", "end": "04:20:15", "text": "1922. Tomb contains hieroglyphic in"}, {"start": "04:20:13", "end": "04:20:17", "text": "inscriptions and a painted celestial"}, {"start": "04:20:15", "end": "04:20:20", "text": "ceiling belonging to the Fowler who"}, {"start": "04:20:17", "end": "04:20:23", "text": "ruled 1493"}, {"start": "04:20:20", "end": "04:20:27", "text": "to 1479 BC. All right,"}, {"start": "04:20:23", "end": "04:20:27", "text": "let's take a look at that."}, {"start": "04:20:30", "end": "04:20:34", "text": "All right. I don't I don't know what"}, {"start": "04:20:31", "end": "04:20:35", "text": "it's paywalled."}, {"start": "04:20:34", "end": "04:20:39", "text": "It's paywalled. 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It was"}, {"start": "04:21:58", "end": "04:22:03", "text": "Can you see that? You can kind of see"}, {"start": "04:22:00", "end": "04:22:03", "text": "it."}, {"start": "04:22:05", "end": "04:22:09", "text": "So, here is"}, {"start": "04:22:10", "end": "04:22:15", "text": "Let me make sure it's facing the right"}, {"start": "04:22:11", "end": "04:22:18", "text": "way. That's That's Alex. So, this was"}, {"start": "04:22:15", "end": "04:22:20", "text": "meant to just after his death as a"}, {"start": "04:22:18", "end": "04:22:23", "text": "celebration of him. You can see him with"}, {"start": "04:22:20", "end": "04:22:24", "text": "the lion's head on."}, {"start": "04:22:23", "end": "04:22:26", "text": "Alexander the Great. She because she"}, {"start": "04:22:24", "end": "04:22:30", "text": "knows I kind of dig him because he"}, {"start": "04:22:26", "end": "04:22:32", "text": "conquers half the gnome world"}, {"start": "04:22:30", "end": "04:22:35", "text": "in his 20s. He died when he was 32 years"}, {"start": "04:22:32", "end": "04:22:39", "text": "old."}, {"start": "04:22:35", "end": "04:22:40", "text": "That it's like uh kind"}, {"start": "04:22:39", "end": "04:22:43", "text": "of makes me feel like what am I doing"}, {"start": "04:22:40", "end": "04:22:46", "text": "with my life? I conquered anything."}, {"start": "04:22:43", "end": "04:22:49", "text": "Alexander the Great"}, {"start": "04:22:46", "end": "04:22:51", "text": "general when he was 20 or what else did"}, {"start": "04:22:49", "end": "04:22:53", "text": "we discover? Drinking Den in Pompei. If"}, {"start": "04:22:51", "end": "04:22:55", "text": "you guys have never been to Pompei and"}, {"start": "04:22:53", "end": "04:22:57", "text": "you're into history. So, she got me that"}, {"start": "04:22:55", "end": "04:23:00", "text": "cuz she knows I'm I'm very much into"}, {"start": "04:22:57", "end": "04:23:01", "text": "ancient history to the point where I get"}, {"start": "04:23:00", "end": "04:23:04", "text": "emotional about it. So, when I was at"}, {"start": "04:23:01", "end": "04:23:08", "text": "the Pantheon in Rome, Pantheon goes back"}, {"start": "04:23:04", "end": "04:23:11", "text": "a long long time. Uh just touching that"}, {"start": "04:23:08", "end": "04:23:14", "text": "stone, I started to cry a little bit."}, {"start": "04:23:11", "end": "04:23:17", "text": "Because like with this coin, it's not"}, {"start": "04:23:14", "end": "04:23:19", "text": "just a trinket to me, you know, I feel"}, {"start": "04:23:17", "end": "04:23:21", "text": "like I can feel the history of it and I"}, {"start": "04:23:19", "end": "04:23:25", "text": "think about, you know, this is this is"}, {"start": "04:23:21", "end": "04:23:27", "text": "real silver. So, this is about what a"}, {"start": "04:23:25", "end": "04:23:29", "text": "like a craftsman would make for a day or"}, {"start": "04:23:27", "end": "04:23:31", "text": "two's work, you know. So, it's not a ton"}, {"start": "04:23:29", "end": "04:23:35", "text": "of money. It's a couple of days pay, but"}, {"start": "04:23:31", "end": "04:23:36", "text": "I but I I imagine how many hands it's"}, {"start": "04:23:35", "end": "04:23:39", "text": "gone through. And I picture this, you"}, {"start": "04:23:36", "end": "04:23:41", "text": "know, them stamping the silver,"}, {"start": "04:23:39", "end": "04:23:43", "text": "talking about Alexander when they're"}, {"start": "04:23:41", "end": "04:23:45", "text": "doing it."}, {"start": "04:23:43", "end": "04:23:48", "text": "And uh because it's in such good shape,"}, {"start": "04:23:45", "end": "04:23:49", "text": "I was able to track down because you can"}, {"start": "04:23:48", "end": "04:23:52", "text": "see on the coin, I was able to track"}, {"start": "04:23:49", "end": "04:23:55", "text": "down the mint where it was made. So it's"}, {"start": "04:23:52", "end": "04:23:55", "text": "made in southern Turkey."}, {"start": "04:23:56", "end": "04:24:03", "text": "Yeah. Amazing."}, {"start": "04:23:59", "end": "04:24:04", "text": "So I get into the ancient history. So,"}, {"start": "04:24:03", "end": "04:24:06", "text": "in Pompei, if you've never gone there,"}, {"start": "04:24:04", "end": "04:24:07", "text": "it's unbelievable. I don't know what"}, {"start": "04:24:06", "end": "04:24:09", "text": "it's like now. I haven't been there in"}, {"start": "04:24:07", "end": "04:24:11", "text": "years, but when I was there, you can"}, {"start": "04:24:09", "end": "04:24:15", "text": "walk the whole city."}, {"start": "04:24:11", "end": "04:24:20", "text": "And uh you guys know Pompei. Vuvius"}, {"start": "04:24:15", "end": "04:24:22", "text": "covered the city. Pompei was a like a"}, {"start": "04:24:20", "end": "04:24:25", "text": "really a like a vacation city for"}, {"start": "04:24:22", "end": "04:24:28", "text": "wealthy Romans would go to go to Pompei."}, {"start": "04:24:25", "end": "04:24:32", "text": "And when Vuvius covered it, it was just"}, {"start": "04:24:28", "end": "04:24:34", "text": "gone for years and years until it became"}, {"start": "04:24:32", "end": "04:24:37", "text": "like a legendary city. Nobody even knew"}, {"start": "04:24:34", "end": "04:24:41", "text": "if it was real or not. 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You can kind of see in"}, {"start": "04:25:25", "end": "04:25:29", "text": "the vid or you can't see in the video"}, {"start": "04:25:27", "end": "04:25:32", "text": "there"}, {"start": "04:25:29", "end": "04:25:35", "text": "because I I zapped the screen again is"}, {"start": "04:25:32", "end": "04:25:35", "text": "what happened."}, {"start": "04:25:36", "end": "04:25:40", "text": "There we go."}, {"start": "04:25:40", "end": "04:25:43", "text": "And I think I covered this. So imagine"}, {"start": "04:25:41", "end": "04:25:46", "text": "this"}, {"start": "04:25:43", "end": "04:25:47", "text": "in the city. In one episode I did a I"}, {"start": "04:25:46", "end": "04:25:49", "text": "covered Vuvius. They did a whole time"}, {"start": "04:25:47", "end": "04:25:52", "text": "lapse on it about what the whole day was"}, {"start": "04:25:49", "end": "04:25:56", "text": "like. So plenty and a bunch of these"}, {"start": "04:25:52", "end": "04:26:00", "text": "heroes just start taking their ships to"}, {"start": "04:25:56", "end": "04:26:03", "text": "go and grab as many people as they can"}, {"start": "04:26:00", "end": "04:26:06", "text": "from Pompei and uh and and plenty plenty"}, {"start": "04:26:03", "end": "04:26:07", "text": "died doing it. I think his boat was hit"}, {"start": "04:26:06", "end": "04:26:10", "text": "with"}, {"start": "04:26:07", "end": "04:26:13", "text": "you know it was it was fire that was it"}, {"start": "04:26:10", "end": "04:26:15", "text": "was rocks on fire."}, {"start": "04:26:13", "end": "04:26:17", "text": "So the younger right writes about it and"}, {"start": "04:26:15", "end": "04:26:19", "text": "that's really the only reason we know"}, {"start": "04:26:17", "end": "04:26:21", "text": "about it is because of how he wrote"}, {"start": "04:26:19", "end": "04:26:24", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "04:26:21", "end": "04:26:26", "text": "So if you go and visit there you can"}, {"start": "04:26:24", "end": "04:26:31", "text": "walk the streets and you can see the"}, {"start": "04:26:26", "end": "04:26:33", "text": "bodies see like this"}, {"start": "04:26:31", "end": "04:26:35", "text": "and they're not these are not actual"}, {"start": "04:26:33", "end": "04:26:37", "text": "bodies but you can you can you can see"}, {"start": "04:26:35", "end": "04:26:39", "text": "this you can see people you can see"}, {"start": "04:26:37", "end": "04:26:41", "text": "mothers holding their children you know"}, {"start": "04:26:39", "end": "04:26:43", "text": "just waiting for the end to come. I"}, {"start": "04:26:41", "end": "04:26:44", "text": "mean, look at the detail you can see on"}, {"start": "04:26:43", "end": "04:26:47", "text": "this person's face. He's just just"}, {"start": "04:26:44", "end": "04:26:49", "text": "climbing, maybe to get away, maybe to to"}, {"start": "04:26:47", "end": "04:26:52", "text": "help a loved one. I I don't know, but"}, {"start": "04:26:49", "end": "04:26:54", "text": "you can see it in his posture."}, {"start": "04:26:52", "end": "04:26:57", "text": "Um, but these aren't the actual bodies."}, {"start": "04:26:54", "end": "04:27:01", "text": "What happens is the ash"}, {"start": "04:26:57", "end": "04:27:04", "text": "covers the bodies and they decompose in"}, {"start": "04:27:01", "end": "04:27:06", "text": "there and then since the ash is"}, {"start": "04:27:04", "end": "04:27:08", "text": "hardened, the body decomposes and you're"}, {"start": "04:27:06", "end": "04:27:10", "text": "left with these impressions."}, {"start": "04:27:08", "end": "04:27:12", "text": "So if you walk around the streets of"}, {"start": "04:27:10", "end": "04:27:14", "text": "Pompei, you can see all of this stuff."}, {"start": "04:27:12", "end": "04:27:16", "text": "You can go into the You can go into the"}, {"start": "04:27:14", "end": "04:27:20", "text": "homes. Yeah. This is what it was like"}, {"start": "04:27:16", "end": "04:27:20", "text": "when I was there. Just like this."}, {"start": "04:27:23", "end": "04:27:29", "text": "So, so that was a very very emotional"}, {"start": "04:27:26", "end": "04:27:31", "text": "experience for me because, you know,"}, {"start": "04:27:29", "end": "04:27:33", "text": "it's one thing to to hold the coin and"}, {"start": "04:27:31", "end": "04:27:34", "text": "imagine the people, right? Imagine"}, {"start": "04:27:33", "end": "04:27:39", "text": "imagine who held this. How many hands"}, {"start": "04:27:34", "end": "04:27:39", "text": "did this go through for 2,000 years?"}, {"start": "04:27:39", "end": "04:27:45", "text": "And it's another thing to go to Pompei"}, {"start": "04:27:41", "end": "04:27:45", "text": "and see the people."}, {"start": "04:27:46", "end": "04:27:50", "text": "We got a Maya King grave. Oh, so many"}, {"start": "04:27:48", "end": "04:27:52", "text": "good discoveries in South America. Uh"}, {"start": "04:27:50", "end": "04:27:55", "text": "because of the liar. Oldest smoked dried"}, {"start": "04:27:52", "end": "04:27:58", "text": "mummies."}, {"start": "04:27:55", "end": "04:28:01", "text": "Ancient animal traps. How old are those?"}, {"start": "04:27:58", "end": "04:28:04", "text": "10,000 10,000 years."}, {"start": "04:28:01", "end": "04:28:06", "text": "Ancient Egyptian pleasure barge."}, {"start": "04:28:04", "end": "04:28:08", "text": "We got a little party boat. What's going"}, {"start": "04:28:06", "end": "04:28:10", "text": "on here? Just in time for the festive"}, {"start": "04:28:08", "end": "04:28:12", "text": "season, archaeologist announced the"}, {"start": "04:28:10", "end": "04:28:14", "text": "discovery of an underwater wreck of a"}, {"start": "04:28:12", "end": "04:28:15", "text": "giant pleasure barge or floating palace"}, {"start": "04:28:14", "end": "04:28:18", "text": "in the harbor near the Egyptian city of"}, {"start": "04:28:15", "end": "04:28:21", "text": "Alexandria. The remains have been lying"}, {"start": "04:28:18", "end": "04:28:24", "text": "only about 23 feet underwater"}, {"start": "04:28:21", "end": "04:28:27", "text": "under about 57 right there. Capital of"}, {"start": "04:28:24", "end": "04:28:28", "text": "Tmic, Egypt from about 300 BC and a"}, {"start": "04:28:27", "end": "04:28:32", "text": "major city under the Roman Empire from"}, {"start": "04:28:28", "end": "04:28:34", "text": "about 30 BC. Ancient writers describe"}, {"start": "04:28:32", "end": "04:28:38", "text": "talic pleasure. Uh the Talmic line can"}, {"start": "04:28:34", "end": "04:28:39", "text": "still be traced to today by the way. So"}, {"start": "04:28:38", "end": "04:28:42", "text": "that goes back to that goes back to"}, {"start": "04:28:39", "end": "04:28:44", "text": "Cleopatra the first magist. So there are"}, {"start": "04:28:42", "end": "04:28:46", "text": "descendants of them still today. In"}, {"start": "04:28:44", "end": "04:28:48", "text": "fact, it it hasn't been proven through"}, {"start": "04:28:46", "end": "04:28:51", "text": "DNA, but there are allegedly descendants"}, {"start": "04:28:48", "end": "04:28:55", "text": "of the affair that Cleopatra had with"}, {"start": "04:28:51", "end": "04:28:58", "text": "Julius Caesar. Oh, I'm fascinated by it."}, {"start": "04:28:55", "end": "04:29:00", "text": "I love it. And uh I was just I was just"}, {"start": "04:28:58", "end": "04:29:03", "text": "about to to look at the numbers to see"}, {"start": "04:29:00", "end": "04:29:04", "text": "if we lost half of our viewers to see I"}, {"start": "04:29:03", "end": "04:29:07", "text": "guess I guess not everybody's into"}, {"start": "04:29:04", "end": "04:29:07", "text": "ancient history."}, {"start": "04:29:08", "end": "04:29:14", "text": "But there's still DNA uh evidence of of"}, {"start": "04:29:11", "end": "04:29:16", "text": "the of the Tomic family line but also"}, {"start": "04:29:14", "end": "04:29:17", "text": "possibly of Caesar"}, {"start": "04:29:16", "end": "04:29:19", "text": "because he didn't have any surviving"}, {"start": "04:29:17", "end": "04:29:22", "text": "children. I think his first child died"}, {"start": "04:29:19", "end": "04:29:23", "text": "died at birth with Julia and then his I"}, {"start": "04:29:22", "end": "04:29:26", "text": "don't think he had any others with his"}, {"start": "04:29:23", "end": "04:29:29", "text": "second wife. Could be wrong. Oldest"}, {"start": "04:29:26", "end": "04:29:31", "text": "family tree is Confucious. This is"}, {"start": "04:29:29", "end": "04:29:33", "text": "because it's documented. Confucious"}, {"start": "04:29:31", "end": "04:29:36", "text": "family tree goes back I think about 2500"}, {"start": "04:29:33", "end": "04:29:38", "text": "years. And Confucious has millions of"}, {"start": "04:29:36", "end": "04:29:41", "text": "living descendants."}, {"start": "04:29:38", "end": "04:29:42", "text": "Ancient writers describe tomic pleasure"}, {"start": "04:29:41", "end": "04:29:44", "text": "barges carrying the feasting elite"}, {"start": "04:29:42", "end": "04:29:46", "text": "between choice spots along the leafy"}, {"start": "04:29:44", "end": "04:29:48", "text": "shores. It sounds like a a princess"}, {"start": "04:29:46", "end": "04:29:50", "text": "cruise, isn't it? Leafy shores and lotus"}, {"start": "04:29:48", "end": "04:29:51", "text": "beds of Egypt's canals. Every day and"}, {"start": "04:29:50", "end": "04:29:53", "text": "every night is crowded with people in"}, {"start": "04:29:51", "end": "04:29:55", "text": "the boats who play the flute and dance"}, {"start": "04:29:53", "end": "04:29:57", "text": "without restraint."}, {"start": "04:29:55", "end": "04:29:59", "text": "Um, okay."}, {"start": "04:29:57", "end": "04:30:01", "text": "This is Greek geographer Strabo. We"}, {"start": "04:29:59", "end": "04:30:05", "text": "talked about Strabo Strao just last week"}, {"start": "04:30:01", "end": "04:30:05", "text": "I think."}, {"start": "04:30:07", "end": "04:30:12", "text": "Uh, so does uh Jen Jenis Genghis,"}, {"start": "04:30:10", "end": "04:30:15", "text": "however they want to say. Genghask"}, {"start": "04:30:12", "end": "04:30:17", "text": "Kanye. I mean everybody has I think"}, {"start": "04:30:15", "end": "04:30:21", "text": "everybody or so many people have just a"}, {"start": "04:30:17", "end": "04:30:23", "text": "drop of [ __ ] blood because of him"}, {"start": "04:30:21", "end": "04:30:25", "text": "because he was also very prolific. 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Best Christmas present"}, {"start": "04:30:49", "end": "04:30:55", "text": "ever.\" And it wasn't me. It was just"}, {"start": "04:30:50", "end": "04:30:55", "text": "generous people watching. Empress"}, {"start": "04:30:58", "end": "04:31:04", "text": "Georgina has a lot of Mongolian in your"}, {"start": "04:30:59", "end": "04:31:07", "text": "heritage. That's very cool."}, {"start": "04:31:04", "end": "04:31:10", "text": "Um, I've never had mine done. I've never"}, {"start": "04:31:07", "end": "04:31:11", "text": "had my DNA done because"}, {"start": "04:31:10", "end": "04:31:16", "text": "because I'm the conspiracy guy, right?"}, {"start": "04:31:11", "end": "04:31:18", "text": "And I don't want my DNA on file. So 23"}, {"start": "04:31:16", "end": "04:31:20", "text": "and me, I hope they're not watching,"}, {"start": "04:31:18", "end": "04:31:23", "text": "wanted to sponsor the show with with"}, {"start": "04:31:20", "end": "04:31:25", "text": "pretty lucrative uh ad buy, but part of"}, {"start": "04:31:23", "end": "04:31:27", "text": "the deal was, you know, what we'll do"}, {"start": "04:31:25", "end": "04:31:30", "text": "for the commercial is AJ will take a"}, {"start": "04:31:27", "end": "04:31:32", "text": "swab and send in his DNA and we'll tell"}, {"start": "04:31:30", "end": "04:31:36", "text": "him what what his lineage is. And I was"}, {"start": "04:31:32", "end": "04:31:39", "text": "like, nope, not just putting my my my"}, {"start": "04:31:36", "end": "04:31:41", "text": "cells into the mail to 23 and me, which"}, {"start": "04:31:39", "end": "04:31:43", "text": "I'm pretty sure is funded has some"}, {"start": "04:31:41", "end": "04:31:44", "text": "government funding."}, {"start": "04:31:43", "end": "04:31:46", "text": "I almost said I could be wrong about"}, {"start": "04:31:44", "end": "04:31:48", "text": "that, but I don't think I'm wrong about"}, {"start": "04:31:46", "end": "04:31:49", "text": "it."}, {"start": "04:31:48", "end": "04:31:52", "text": "So, look, if you've done it, no"}, {"start": "04:31:49", "end": "04:31:55", "text": "judgment. It's super cool. I'd like to"}, {"start": "04:31:52", "end": "04:31:59", "text": "know, but I have a a very strong"}, {"start": "04:31:55", "end": "04:32:01", "text": "feeling, you know, since since most of"}, {"start": "04:31:59", "end": "04:32:04", "text": "my family is from from from Naples, like"}, {"start": "04:32:01", "end": "04:32:07", "text": "South Naples, Nebalidon. It's just poor"}, {"start": "04:32:04", "end": "04:32:10", "text": "Italians. Like, I I'm just going to be"}, {"start": "04:32:07", "end": "04:32:12", "text": "generic generic poor poor southern"}, {"start": "04:32:10", "end": "04:32:14", "text": "Italians."}, {"start": "04:32:12", "end": "04:32:17", "text": "But poor cultures make the best food."}, {"start": "04:32:14", "end": "04:32:18", "text": "There's there's no denying that."}, {"start": "04:32:17", "end": "04:32:20", "text": "So, the pleasure bar. So, that's"}, {"start": "04:32:18", "end": "04:32:25", "text": "everything. Those are the discoveries"}, {"start": "04:32:20", "end": "04:32:27", "text": "this year. Super cool. Um I guess Zwas"}, {"start": "04:32:25", "end": "04:32:31", "text": "didn't get"}, {"start": "04:32:27", "end": "04:32:34", "text": "didn't didn't get involved in this."}, {"start": "04:32:31", "end": "04:32:36", "text": "Although, he seems to be focused"}, {"start": "04:32:34", "end": "04:32:39", "text": "focused on Giza. I don't know. I don't"}, {"start": "04:32:36", "end": "04:32:41", "text": "like that man. If you watched the last"}, {"start": "04:32:39", "end": "04:32:44", "text": "episode, you you you probably understand"}, {"start": "04:32:41", "end": "04:32:46", "text": "that."}, {"start": "04:32:44", "end": "04:32:47", "text": "Aphrodesiac,"}, {"start": "04:32:46", "end": "04:32:48", "text": "can't explain how much your channel's"}, {"start": "04:32:47", "end": "04:32:49", "text": "helped over the past few months. Thank"}, {"start": "04:32:48", "end": "04:32:50", "text": "you from the bottom of my heart for"}, {"start": "04:32:49", "end": "04:32:53", "text": "doing what you do. Merry Christmas."}, {"start": "04:32:50", "end": "04:32:54", "text": "You're very welcome. Thank you for the"}, {"start": "04:32:53", "end": "04:32:57", "text": "support. You didn't have to be so"}, {"start": "04:32:54", "end": "04:32:58", "text": "generous, but I do appreciate it. And I"}, {"start": "04:32:57", "end": "04:33:03", "text": "hope you're having a good Christmas, and"}, {"start": "04:32:58", "end": "04:33:03", "text": "I hope next year is wonderful for you."}, {"start": "04:33:04", "end": "04:33:10", "text": "Nicole, the co commentary is great. When"}, {"start": "04:33:06", "end": "04:33:11", "text": "is the episode? I I really need the"}, {"start": "04:33:10", "end": "04:33:13", "text": "story"}, {"start": "04:33:11", "end": "04:33:15", "text": "because I don't just do political"}, {"start": "04:33:13", "end": "04:33:17", "text": "commentary and maybe I you know I'll do"}, {"start": "04:33:15", "end": "04:33:19", "text": "COVID commentary on the streams and talk"}, {"start": "04:33:17", "end": "04:33:23", "text": "about it and I've made plenty of jokes"}, {"start": "04:33:19", "end": "04:33:24", "text": "over the years um about CO even when we"}, {"start": "04:33:23", "end": "04:33:26", "text": "were in the middle of it because that's"}, {"start": "04:33:24", "end": "04:33:27", "text": "when I started the channel was when we"}, {"start": "04:33:26", "end": "04:33:30", "text": "were in lockdown"}, {"start": "04:33:27", "end": "04:33:32", "text": "and I was always you know would make a"}, {"start": "04:33:30", "end": "04:33:34", "text": "fish would make jokes about the jab the"}, {"start": "04:33:32", "end": "04:33:37", "text": "jab the jab and how it doesn't work and"}, {"start": "04:33:34", "end": "04:33:39", "text": "the mRNA we'd make all those jokes but I"}, {"start": "04:33:37", "end": "04:33:40", "text": "would try to be very careful Cuz back"}, {"start": "04:33:39", "end": "04:33:43", "text": "then"}, {"start": "04:33:40", "end": "04:33:46", "text": "all the conspiracies were conspiracies"}, {"start": "04:33:43", "end": "04:33:50", "text": "cuz back then it was a bat and back then"}, {"start": "04:33:46", "end": "04:33:52", "text": "the vaccines which aren't vaccines"}, {"start": "04:33:50", "end": "04:33:53", "text": "worked and everybody had to have them"}, {"start": "04:33:52", "end": "04:33:57", "text": "and all that. So I didn't want to go"}, {"start": "04:33:53", "end": "04:34:00", "text": "hard because so many people had to take"}, {"start": "04:33:57", "end": "04:34:01", "text": "the vaccines like they had no choice. I"}, {"start": "04:34:00", "end": "04:34:02", "text": "mean, you always have a choice, but"}, {"start": "04:34:01", "end": "04:34:05", "text": "there were people like, I had to do it"}, {"start": "04:34:02", "end": "04:34:08", "text": "or I couldn't keep my job or I live in"}, {"start": "04:34:05", "end": "04:34:10", "text": "LA and I can't go anywhere without my"}, {"start": "04:34:08", "end": "04:34:13", "text": "vac without my card, which half of them"}, {"start": "04:34:10", "end": "04:34:14", "text": "were forged anyway."}, {"start": "04:34:13", "end": "04:34:16", "text": "So, I didn't want I didn't want people"}, {"start": "04:34:14", "end": "04:34:20", "text": "to feel"}, {"start": "04:34:16", "end": "04:34:23", "text": "less than because they got the vaccine."}, {"start": "04:34:20", "end": "04:34:24", "text": "Look, if if you got it because everybody"}, {"start": "04:34:23", "end": "04:34:29", "text": "was telling you it was going to help,"}, {"start": "04:34:24", "end": "04:34:30", "text": "then okay, you believed them."}, {"start": "04:34:29", "end": "04:34:32", "text": "I did not. That's why I said the"}, {"start": "04:34:30", "end": "04:34:34", "text": "channel's aging like fine wine because"}, {"start": "04:34:32", "end": "04:34:35", "text": "all those jokes that we made is all come"}, {"start": "04:34:34", "end": "04:34:37", "text": "come true. And now I think it's safe to"}, {"start": "04:34:35", "end": "04:34:39", "text": "do a co video because all the"}, {"start": "04:34:37", "end": "04:34:43", "text": "conspiracies are true."}, {"start": "04:34:39", "end": "04:34:47", "text": "Nobody the bad thing is done."}, {"start": "04:34:43", "end": "04:34:49", "text": "And you saw me go hard after Fouchy."}, {"start": "04:34:47", "end": "04:34:52", "text": "So it's not like I'm hiding it. But"}, {"start": "04:34:49", "end": "04:34:54", "text": "again, it's sensitive because"}, {"start": "04:34:52", "end": "04:34:55", "text": "there are people here in my house that"}, {"start": "04:34:54", "end": "04:34:57", "text": "are on like their third vaccine. And for"}, {"start": "04:34:55", "end": "04:35:00", "text": "some reason, everybody I know who's got"}, {"start": "04:34:57", "end": "04:35:02", "text": "the vaccine gets COVID multiple times."}, {"start": "04:35:00", "end": "04:35:03", "text": "I don't know if that's been the same for"}, {"start": "04:35:02", "end": "04:35:06", "text": "you, but everybody I know has got it"}, {"start": "04:35:03", "end": "04:35:09", "text": "multiple times and worse."}, {"start": "04:35:06", "end": "04:35:10", "text": "Uh not like I'm immune. I got COVID. I"}, {"start": "04:35:09", "end": "04:35:13", "text": "had it for about a week and it was very"}, {"start": "04:35:10", "end": "04:35:16", "text": "very it was and it sucked,"}, {"start": "04:35:13", "end": "04:35:19", "text": "but it was a week. It at first it felt"}, {"start": "04:35:16", "end": "04:35:22", "text": "like a cold. Like I was really tired."}, {"start": "04:35:19", "end": "04:35:25", "text": "What happened was we moved from from"}, {"start": "04:35:22", "end": "04:35:27", "text": "where did we move?"}, {"start": "04:35:25", "end": "04:35:29", "text": "It was to Plano. I think it might have"}, {"start": "04:35:27", "end": "04:35:31", "text": "been two Texas might have we drove to"}, {"start": "04:35:29", "end": "04:35:35", "text": "Texas. So Gino and I drove all night. I"}, {"start": "04:35:31", "end": "04:35:37", "text": "drove 25 26 straight hours,"}, {"start": "04:35:35", "end": "04:35:40", "text": "you know, in the in the F-150 solid"}, {"start": "04:35:37", "end": "04:35:41", "text": "dragging a U-Haul and and got home and I"}, {"start": "04:35:40", "end": "04:35:44", "text": "was just really tired and I thought it"}, {"start": "04:35:41", "end": "04:35:46", "text": "was cuz I was up all night driving."}, {"start": "04:35:44", "end": "04:35:49", "text": "And the next day Jen and I are having a"}, {"start": "04:35:46", "end": "04:35:51", "text": "steak and I'm putting A1 on there."}, {"start": "04:35:49", "end": "04:35:55", "text": "haters welcome. Um, I don't do it in a"}, {"start": "04:35:51", "end": "04:35:58", "text": "steakhouse, but at home A1, a lot of A1."}, {"start": "04:35:55", "end": "04:36:00", "text": "And, uh, so me and the steak with the A1"}, {"start": "04:35:58", "end": "04:36:01", "text": "and I make a face and I pick up the"}, {"start": "04:36:00", "end": "04:36:03", "text": "bottle and I'm like looking at the"}, {"start": "04:36:01", "end": "04:36:06", "text": "bottle,"}, {"start": "04:36:03", "end": "04:36:08", "text": "but you know, of course, I'm I'm looking"}, {"start": "04:36:06", "end": "04:36:10", "text": "at it with my readers and she's like,"}, {"start": "04:36:08", "end": "04:36:12", "text": "\"What are you doing?\" I said, \"I think"}, {"start": "04:36:10", "end": "04:36:14", "text": "this I think the A1's bad.\" She's like,"}, {"start": "04:36:12", "end": "04:36:17", "text": "\"I just got that.\" She looked, \"It's not"}, {"start": "04:36:14", "end": "04:36:21", "text": "bad.\" I said, \"It tastes rotten.\""}, {"start": "04:36:17", "end": "04:36:23", "text": "And then I went uhoh."}, {"start": "04:36:21", "end": "04:36:27", "text": "And just like tasted a few things. I'm"}, {"start": "04:36:23", "end": "04:36:29", "text": "like, I I I I think I got the vid."}, {"start": "04:36:27", "end": "04:36:31", "text": "And within a day or two, I got really"}, {"start": "04:36:29", "end": "04:36:34", "text": "sick. But it was like a flu and then I"}, {"start": "04:36:31", "end": "04:36:37", "text": "was okay. But here's the thing that I"}, {"start": "04:36:34", "end": "04:36:37", "text": "just discovered."}, {"start": "04:36:38", "end": "04:36:44", "text": "So if you follow the channel, you can"}, {"start": "04:36:40", "end": "04:36:46", "text": "hear my nasal issues. Like I can't say"}, {"start": "04:36:44", "end": "04:36:48", "text": "the word electromagnetic. I can kind of"}, {"start": "04:36:46", "end": "04:36:50", "text": "say it now. It's cuz my na my sinuses"}, {"start": "04:36:48", "end": "04:36:53", "text": "have been just clogged like allergies"}, {"start": "04:36:50", "end": "04:36:56", "text": "and sneezing and eyes running miserable"}, {"start": "04:36:53", "end": "04:36:59", "text": "since Texas and I've never been allergic"}, {"start": "04:36:56", "end": "04:37:01", "text": "to anything in my life. And uh so I'm"}, {"start": "04:36:59", "end": "04:37:02", "text": "like is it the Texas weather? But Texas"}, {"start": "04:37:01", "end": "04:37:05", "text": "weather is a lot like New York weather,"}, {"start": "04:37:02", "end": "04:37:07", "text": "you know? It's just kind of humid and"}, {"start": "04:37:05", "end": "04:37:11", "text": "crap in the air."}, {"start": "04:37:07", "end": "04:37:13", "text": "And then uh then we move to Vegas and"}, {"start": "04:37:11", "end": "04:37:15", "text": "it's still there and it's it's a"}, {"start": "04:37:13", "end": "04:37:16", "text": "completely different climate here and"}, {"start": "04:37:15", "end": "04:37:19", "text": "they're just miserable. I wake up and"}, {"start": "04:37:16", "end": "04:37:21", "text": "the eyes are running and I I would go"}, {"start": "04:37:19", "end": "04:37:23", "text": "through"}, {"start": "04:37:21", "end": "04:37:25", "text": "I mean I don't have them on my desk now"}, {"start": "04:37:23", "end": "04:37:27", "text": "but you could see can you see behind me"}, {"start": "04:37:25", "end": "04:37:29", "text": "the box of tissues on the bar tissues on"}, {"start": "04:37:27", "end": "04:37:31", "text": "the bar tissues by my chair tissues"}, {"start": "04:37:29", "end": "04:37:33", "text": "there backup tissues underneath go"}, {"start": "04:37:31", "end": "04:37:36", "text": "through about three boxes of those a day"}, {"start": "04:37:33", "end": "04:37:41", "text": "for the past few years and uh my doctor"}, {"start": "04:37:36", "end": "04:37:41", "text": "put me on like nose steroids"}, {"start": "04:37:42", "end": "04:37:45", "text": "this one"}, {"start": "04:37:45", "end": "04:37:50", "text": "didn't help. Did the netty pot the"}, {"start": "04:37:48", "end": "04:37:51", "text": "things that and suck out your nose is"}, {"start": "04:37:50", "end": "04:37:53", "text": "this what drains. You ever do a netty"}, {"start": "04:37:51", "end": "04:37:56", "text": "pot? It's the weirdest thing if you're"}, {"start": "04:37:53", "end": "04:37:58", "text": "new to it cuz you you you put it up one"}, {"start": "04:37:56", "end": "04:37:59", "text": "nostril and it goes up through your"}, {"start": "04:37:58", "end": "04:38:01", "text": "brain out the other side. It's very"}, {"start": "04:37:59", "end": "04:38:03", "text": "strange. But once you get used to it,"}, {"start": "04:38:01", "end": "04:38:05", "text": "it's actually pretty refreshing. Nothing"}, {"start": "04:38:03", "end": "04:38:08", "text": "worked and it and it just miserable and"}, {"start": "04:38:05", "end": "04:38:11", "text": "miserable and and as a performer, if"}, {"start": "04:38:08", "end": "04:38:13", "text": "this is what I do, I talk for a living."}, {"start": "04:38:11", "end": "04:38:15", "text": "So, I can't pronounce words. My eyes are"}, {"start": "04:38:13", "end": "04:38:17", "text": "constantly, if you look at the videos,"}, {"start": "04:38:15", "end": "04:38:19", "text": "even if you look at some of the more"}, {"start": "04:38:17", "end": "04:38:21", "text": "recent ones, my eyes are bloodshot, not"}, {"start": "04:38:19", "end": "04:38:25", "text": "cuz I'm tired. It's cuz I probably just"}, {"start": "04:38:21", "end": "04:38:29", "text": "had a sneezing fit, blowing my nose,"}, {"start": "04:38:25", "end": "04:38:31", "text": "couldn't nothing worked. So, the one"}, {"start": "04:38:29", "end": "04:38:33", "text": "night, and it was just a week ago, this"}, {"start": "04:38:31", "end": "04:38:35", "text": "just one week, I was just having the"}, {"start": "04:38:33", "end": "04:38:38", "text": "worst the worst night with the with the"}, {"start": "04:38:35", "end": "04:38:40", "text": "sneezing and the sinuses. I was so sick"}, {"start": "04:38:38", "end": "04:38:43", "text": "of it. It ruins your sleep. you have to"}, {"start": "04:38:40", "end": "04:38:46", "text": "sleep with your mouth open."}, {"start": "04:38:43", "end": "04:38:49", "text": "Wasn't a snorer became one. So I said,"}, {"start": "04:38:46", "end": "04:38:52", "text": "\"You know what?"}, {"start": "04:38:49", "end": "04:38:54", "text": "Let's AI let's AI diagnose because this"}, {"start": "04:38:52", "end": "04:38:56", "text": "helped me before.\" And I just started a"}, {"start": "04:38:54", "end": "04:38:59", "text": "conversation uh with AI about what was"}, {"start": "04:38:56", "end": "04:39:00", "text": "going on. Here's what happened. Here's"}, {"start": "04:38:59", "end": "04:39:03", "text": "this. Here's that. Here's what my"}, {"start": "04:39:00", "end": "04:39:06", "text": "doctor's on. Here's what I've tried. Um"}, {"start": "04:39:03", "end": "04:39:10", "text": "ENTs can't really figure it out. knows"}, {"start": "04:39:06", "end": "04:39:11", "text": "my sinuses are extremely in inflamed."}, {"start": "04:39:10", "end": "04:39:14", "text": "Angry is what the doctor said. I don't"}, {"start": "04:39:11", "end": "04:39:16", "text": "know if that's a medical term. Uh"}, {"start": "04:39:14", "end": "04:39:18", "text": "deviated septum. No, none of that."}, {"start": "04:39:16", "end": "04:39:20", "text": "Surgery is not going to help what you"}, {"start": "04:39:18", "end": "04:39:22", "text": "have."}, {"start": "04:39:20", "end": "04:39:24", "text": "So, I just went through the AI diagnose"}, {"start": "04:39:22", "end": "04:39:26", "text": "with just a back and forth conversation"}, {"start": "04:39:24", "end": "04:39:29", "text": "and then and it was getting nowhere. It"}, {"start": "04:39:26", "end": "04:39:33", "text": "recommended the medicine. I already use"}, {"start": "04:39:29", "end": "04:39:35", "text": "Flonese. Forget that. Um it recommended"}, {"start": "04:39:33", "end": "04:39:37", "text": "saline watches washes. I already I"}, {"start": "04:39:35", "end": "04:39:39", "text": "already do that 10 times a day. Never"}, {"start": "04:39:37", "end": "04:39:43", "text": "had to do any of this before. Finally,"}, {"start": "04:39:39", "end": "04:39:45", "text": "the AI goes, \"Have you ever had CO?\""}, {"start": "04:39:43", "end": "04:39:47", "text": "Like, \"Yeah, I had CO.\" \"Well, when did"}, {"start": "04:39:45", "end": "04:39:51", "text": "you have it?\" Put in the date, which is,"}, {"start": "04:39:47", "end": "04:39:55", "text": "you know, 2021. Summer 2021. Well, when"}, {"start": "04:39:51", "end": "04:39:56", "text": "did the symptoms start? And I went,"}, {"start": "04:39:55", "end": "04:40:00", "text": "2021."}, {"start": "04:39:56", "end": "04:40:02", "text": "And what the AI told me was"}, {"start": "04:40:00", "end": "04:40:05", "text": "there are certain types of long COVID"}, {"start": "04:40:02", "end": "04:40:07", "text": "that uh and I don't have long CO certain"}, {"start": "04:40:05", "end": "04:40:11", "text": "types of lingering COVID that what"}, {"start": "04:40:07", "end": "04:40:15", "text": "happens is CO is so aggressive with your"}, {"start": "04:40:11", "end": "04:40:18", "text": "with your um like your histamin reaction"}, {"start": "04:40:15", "end": "04:40:20", "text": "that after your body has COVID just the"}, {"start": "04:40:18", "end": "04:40:23", "text": "slightest thing will set it off."}, {"start": "04:40:20", "end": "04:40:26", "text": "The slightest just the slightest thing."}, {"start": "04:40:23", "end": "04:40:27", "text": "Um like it once I would start to sneeze"}, {"start": "04:40:26", "end": "04:40:30", "text": "I could would sneeze 12 times and I was"}, {"start": "04:40:27", "end": "04:40:32", "text": "never like that or once I would start to"}, {"start": "04:40:30", "end": "04:40:33", "text": "feel a little something with my nose it"}, {"start": "04:40:32", "end": "04:40:36", "text": "would just start running and it just was"}, {"start": "04:40:33", "end": "04:40:41", "text": "so miserable."}, {"start": "04:40:36", "end": "04:40:41", "text": "So AI figured out that"}, {"start": "04:40:44", "end": "04:40:50", "text": "figured out that I have I'm having an"}, {"start": "04:40:47", "end": "04:40:52", "text": "overreaction to all types of stimuli"}, {"start": "04:40:50", "end": "04:40:54", "text": "with my nose. So, anytime the there's"}, {"start": "04:40:52", "end": "04:40:56", "text": "the slightest change in anything, which"}, {"start": "04:40:54", "end": "04:40:58", "text": "I would notice, like I could be at work"}, {"start": "04:40:56", "end": "04:41:01", "text": "and be fine, but then get home and"}, {"start": "04:40:58", "end": "04:41:04", "text": "suddenly be miserable or vice versa, get"}, {"start": "04:41:01", "end": "04:41:06", "text": "to work and be fine. So, it's the"}, {"start": "04:41:04", "end": "04:41:08", "text": "slightest thing would trigger my nose to"}, {"start": "04:41:06", "end": "04:41:11", "text": "go into overdrive and just start running"}, {"start": "04:41:08", "end": "04:41:13", "text": "and everything. So, it said ask your"}, {"start": "04:41:11", "end": "04:41:15", "text": "doctor for iotropium"}, {"start": "04:41:13", "end": "04:41:17", "text": "bromide."}, {"start": "04:41:15", "end": "04:41:19", "text": "Now, I was like, oh, what is that? I"}, {"start": "04:41:17", "end": "04:41:21", "text": "don't like to ask my doctor for new"}, {"start": "04:41:19", "end": "04:41:22", "text": "meds."}, {"start": "04:41:21", "end": "04:41:24", "text": "But I looked this up and it was like,"}, {"start": "04:41:22", "end": "04:41:27", "text": "\"Oh, this there's really nothing to it."}, {"start": "04:41:24", "end": "04:41:30", "text": "This is this is like a very commonly"}, {"start": "04:41:27", "end": "04:41:33", "text": "prescribed thing.\" So he prescribed it."}, {"start": "04:41:30", "end": "04:41:35", "text": "I went from three boxes of tissues a day"}, {"start": "04:41:33", "end": "04:41:37", "text": "to one tissue a day. And the one tissue"}, {"start": "04:41:35", "end": "04:41:38", "text": "is just when I flush with the saline,"}, {"start": "04:41:37", "end": "04:41:40", "text": "blow my nose, and then put the medicine"}, {"start": "04:41:38", "end": "04:41:42", "text": "in. And that's it. It's done. And if I"}, {"start": "04:41:40", "end": "04:41:45", "text": "forget to take that, I can feel the"}, {"start": "04:41:42", "end": "04:41:47", "text": "symptoms coming back. Take that. Done."}, {"start": "04:41:45", "end": "04:41:49", "text": "You haven't heard me sniffle once during"}, {"start": "04:41:47", "end": "04:41:50", "text": "this. If you watch the other after"}, {"start": "04:41:49", "end": "04:41:52", "text": "files, you see you'll see me taking"}, {"start": "04:41:50", "end": "04:41:54", "text": "breaks to just blow my nose. So if you"}, {"start": "04:41:52", "end": "04:41:56", "text": "if you're experiencing like weird nasal"}, {"start": "04:41:54", "end": "04:42:00", "text": "stuff, think back. Did you have COVID?"}, {"start": "04:41:56", "end": "04:42:02", "text": "Because that's what happened."}, {"start": "04:42:00", "end": "04:42:04", "text": "And what makes me think of that is, you"}, {"start": "04:42:02", "end": "04:42:06", "text": "know, when I'm kind of being a I don't"}, {"start": "04:42:04", "end": "04:42:08", "text": "know, snarky about COVID. It's like ah"}, {"start": "04:42:06", "end": "04:42:12", "text": "it it affects it affects people. It was"}, {"start": "04:42:08", "end": "04:42:14", "text": "a real thing and it affects me still."}, {"start": "04:42:12", "end": "04:42:16", "text": "And it's incurable what I have, by the"}, {"start": "04:42:14", "end": "04:42:19", "text": "way. So I just have to squirt that in my"}, {"start": "04:42:16", "end": "04:42:19", "text": "nose all the time."}, {"start": "04:42:21", "end": "04:42:25", "text": "Are you guys Have you guys tried that in"}, {"start": "04:42:23", "end": "04:42:29", "text": "the in the chat?"}, {"start": "04:42:25", "end": "04:42:32", "text": "Fematine fix it is it fixes it too. AI"}, {"start": "04:42:29", "end": "04:42:33", "text": "didn't tell me that. AI told me to try"}, {"start": "04:42:32", "end": "04:42:35", "text": "that. So I looked it up to see how"}, {"start": "04:42:33", "end": "04:42:37", "text": "aggressive it would be. It was like oh"}, {"start": "04:42:35", "end": "04:42:40", "text": "it's fine. It's it's it's an easy"}, {"start": "04:42:37", "end": "04:42:44", "text": "script. Doctor's like sure."}, {"start": "04:42:40", "end": "04:42:46", "text": "Went and grabbed it. Fixed it. I mean"}, {"start": "04:42:44", "end": "04:42:49", "text": "fixed it."}, {"start": "04:42:46", "end": "04:42:51", "text": "magic."}, {"start": "04:42:49", "end": "04:42:53", "text": "I even teased my doc a little bit about"}, {"start": "04:42:51", "end": "04:42:56", "text": "it. I'm like, why why did she give me"}, {"start": "04:42:53", "end": "04:42:56", "text": "this a year ago?"}, {"start": "04:42:58", "end": "04:43:03", "text": "Uh, my mother did. She got the same"}, {"start": "04:43:00", "end": "04:43:06", "text": "problem."}, {"start": "04:43:03", "end": "04:43:09", "text": "uh eminent. I'm going to I'm going to"}, {"start": "04:43:06", "end": "04:43:12", "text": "type it in the chat for you because it's"}, {"start": "04:43:09", "end": "04:43:17", "text": "magical and I really wouldn't recommend"}, {"start": "04:43:12", "end": "04:43:17", "text": "drugs to people and you should of course"}, {"start": "04:43:22", "end": "04:43:27", "text": "I"}, {"start": "04:43:24", "end": "04:43:31", "text": "drop it in the chat. But I looked this"}, {"start": "04:43:27", "end": "04:43:33", "text": "up and this is a very easy medication."}, {"start": "04:43:31", "end": "04:43:36", "text": "No real side effects."}, {"start": "04:43:33", "end": "04:43:37", "text": "That's all it is."}, {"start": "04:43:36", "end": "04:43:40", "text": "Squirt in the morning, squirt in the"}, {"start": "04:43:37", "end": "04:43:42", "text": "middle of the day, squirt at night."}, {"start": "04:43:40", "end": "04:43:44", "text": "Jen's like, \"You don't snore anymore. I"}, {"start": "04:43:42", "end": "04:43:46", "text": "can get I could sleep now as long as I'm"}, {"start": "04:43:44", "end": "04:43:48", "text": "not, you know, too much whiskey in the"}, {"start": "04:43:46", "end": "04:43:50", "text": "brain.\""}, {"start": "04:43:48", "end": "04:43:53", "text": "So, that's in my bag. I carry it around"}, {"start": "04:43:50", "end": "04:43:53", "text": "with me."}, {"start": "04:43:53", "end": "04:43:59", "text": "Mindy Janette has already done that."}, {"start": "04:43:57", "end": "04:44:01", "text": "Sammy Blue Eyes, I'll get that. I need"}, {"start": "04:43:59", "end": "04:44:02", "text": "it. Check it out in the chat and ask"}, {"start": "04:44:01", "end": "04:44:03", "text": "your doctor about it. He'll prescribe it"}, {"start": "04:44:02", "end": "04:44:06", "text": "without even a question because it's"}, {"start": "04:44:03", "end": "04:44:09", "text": "because it's an easy one. Uh broomemide"}, {"start": "04:44:06", "end": "04:44:12", "text": "is toxic, but the broomemide in that"}, {"start": "04:44:09", "end": "04:44:14", "text": "solution is 03%."}, {"start": "04:44:12", "end": "04:44:16", "text": "So, you're not supposed to take more"}, {"start": "04:44:14", "end": "04:44:19", "text": "than the three shots a day, but I"}, {"start": "04:44:16", "end": "04:44:19", "text": "haven't needed it."}, {"start": "04:44:24", "end": "04:44:26", "text": "Brand new. Oh my god, I've been feeling"}, {"start": "04:44:25", "end": "04:44:28", "text": "the same. Couldn't figure it out. That's"}, {"start": "04:44:26", "end": "04:44:30", "text": "why I told that long story to be honest"}, {"start": "04:44:28", "end": "04:44:33", "text": "with you. It wasn't just because because"}, {"start": "04:44:30", "end": "04:44:34", "text": "you're my therapist. What I'm hoping is"}, {"start": "04:44:33", "end": "04:44:36", "text": "that there's a couple of people in the"}, {"start": "04:44:34", "end": "04:44:38", "text": "chat that, \"Oh my god, I haven't been"}, {"start": "04:44:36", "end": "04:44:39", "text": "able to figure this out.\" And if you"}, {"start": "04:44:38", "end": "04:44:41", "text": "trace it back to when you had CO, is"}, {"start": "04:44:39", "end": "04:44:43", "text": "that when it started? And that's when it"}, {"start": "04:44:41", "end": "04:44:45", "text": "started with me. I thought it was just"}, {"start": "04:44:43", "end": "04:44:48", "text": "Texas through I thought I was just"}, {"start": "04:44:45", "end": "04:44:50", "text": "allergic to the state of Texas, but came"}, {"start": "04:44:48", "end": "04:44:52", "text": "to Vegas where I've been a million times"}, {"start": "04:44:50", "end": "04:44:54", "text": "before anyway, and I and it was here,"}, {"start": "04:44:52", "end": "04:44:58", "text": "too. Doctor thought it was cat"}, {"start": "04:44:54", "end": "04:45:00", "text": "allergies. said that I've had forever."}, {"start": "04:44:58", "end": "04:45:03", "text": "My buddy boy would sleep on my neck and"}, {"start": "04:45:00", "end": "04:45:03", "text": "it was fine."}, {"start": "04:45:04", "end": "04:45:09", "text": "Jim AJ Alex Jones should be a good time."}, {"start": "04:45:07", "end": "04:45:12", "text": "Like I'm always surprised who knows the"}, {"start": "04:45:09", "end": "04:45:13", "text": "channel and then surprised who doesn't"}, {"start": "04:45:12", "end": "04:45:16", "text": "cuz"}, {"start": "04:45:13", "end": "04:45:19", "text": "uh a week or two ago um on Infowars"}, {"start": "04:45:16", "end": "04:45:21", "text": "apparently does callins. I didn't know"}, {"start": "04:45:19", "end": "04:45:22", "text": "he did that live call-ins and someone"}, {"start": "04:45:21", "end": "04:45:24", "text": "called in and said, \"Hey, you should"}, {"start": "04:45:22", "end": "04:45:26", "text": "talk to AJ from the Y Files. you guys,"}, {"start": "04:45:24", "end": "04:45:28", "text": "that would be cool. And he's like, uh,"}, {"start": "04:45:26", "end": "04:45:30", "text": "he was he was complaining about how no"}, {"start": "04:45:28", "end": "04:45:31", "text": "podcast will have him on. So he said,"}, {"start": "04:45:30", "end": "04:45:33", "text": "\"No, you should talk to Asia from the Y"}, {"start": "04:45:31", "end": "04:45:35", "text": "files. He'd have you on cuz I think I"}, {"start": "04:45:33", "end": "04:45:37", "text": "would as long as it's not too political."}, {"start": "04:45:35", "end": "04:45:39", "text": "Just talk conspiracies. Don't want to"}, {"start": "04:45:37", "end": "04:45:41", "text": "talk politics.\" And he's like, \"I never"}, {"start": "04:45:39", "end": "04:45:43", "text": "heard of that. I the what file? Why? I"}, {"start": "04:45:41", "end": "04:45:44", "text": "never heard of that.\""}, {"start": "04:45:43", "end": "04:45:46", "text": "So someone sent me that clip. I'm like,"}, {"start": "04:45:44", "end": "04:45:49", "text": "\"Oh man, I I figured out that he would"}, {"start": "04:45:46", "end": "04:45:51", "text": "have definitely heard of it, but he"}, {"start": "04:45:49", "end": "04:45:53", "text": "didn't. I'm sure he would come into the"}, {"start": "04:45:51", "end": "04:45:56", "text": "basement, but I have to be so careful"}, {"start": "04:45:53", "end": "04:45:58", "text": "with him."}, {"start": "04:45:56", "end": "04:46:00", "text": "Uh, Stargate 8928, does AJ got an"}, {"start": "04:45:58", "end": "04:46:02", "text": "episode of Robert Monroe? I do indeed. I"}, {"start": "04:46:00", "end": "04:46:05", "text": "don't I remember the name of it. Uh, but"}, {"start": "04:46:02", "end": "04:46:07", "text": "I do get into it. And, uh, the Monroe"}, {"start": "04:46:05", "end": "04:46:10", "text": "Institute, love the episode. They even"}, {"start": "04:46:07", "end": "04:46:12", "text": "sent me some free stuff. Um, so I don't"}, {"start": "04:46:10", "end": "04:46:14", "text": "remember the name of the episode where I"}, {"start": "04:46:12", "end": "04:46:18", "text": "covered it."}, {"start": "04:46:14", "end": "04:46:18", "text": "Let me see if I can just find it."}, {"start": "04:46:25", "end": "04:46:31", "text": "I'll search for Monroe Institute"}, {"start": "04:46:28", "end": "04:46:33", "text": "because that was the gateway process. Uh"}, {"start": "04:46:31", "end": "04:46:35", "text": "this is Oh, that was it. So, this is the"}, {"start": "04:46:33", "end": "04:46:37", "text": "one"}, {"start": "04:46:35", "end": "04:46:39", "text": "the United States military is always"}, {"start": "04:46:37", "end": "04:46:41", "text": "looking for. Shut up. I can't even I"}, {"start": "04:46:39", "end": "04:46:43", "text": "can't even listen to it. Can't even"}, {"start": "04:46:41", "end": "04:46:44", "text": "listen to it."}, {"start": "04:46:43", "end": "04:46:46", "text": "Uh but there's a link to the CH. So,"}, {"start": "04:46:44", "end": "04:46:49", "text": "yeah. Yeah. So, I going to to Monroe in"}, {"start": "04:46:46", "end": "04:46:53", "text": "that episode. Super fun."}, {"start": "04:46:49", "end": "04:46:54", "text": ">> It's about time to wrap it up."}, {"start": "04:46:53", "end": "04:46:54", "text": ">> Is that jazz hands?"}, {"start": "04:46:54", "end": "04:46:55", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "04:46:54", "end": "04:46:56", "text": ">> FY."}, {"start": "04:46:55", "end": "04:46:57", "text": ">> Jazz hands."}, {"start": "04:46:56", "end": "04:46:58", "text": ">> It's time to wrap it up."}, {"start": "04:46:57", "end": "04:47:02", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "04:46:58", "end": "04:47:02", "text": ">> All right. So, it's time to eat."}, {"start": "04:47:02", "end": "04:47:03", "text": ">> See?"}, {"start": "04:47:02", "end": "04:47:06", "text": ">> See? Okay."}, {"start": "04:47:03", "end": "04:47:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "04:47:13", "end": "04:47:17", "text": "All right. Almost time to wrap it up,"}, {"start": "04:47:14", "end": "04:47:19", "text": "she says. Uh, so Stargate there. So look"}, {"start": "04:47:17", "end": "04:47:22", "text": "for the gateway process. It's a fun"}, {"start": "04:47:19", "end": "04:47:22", "text": "episode."}, {"start": "04:47:22", "end": "04:47:27", "text": "I tried it. I couldn't get it to work. I"}, {"start": "04:47:24", "end": "04:47:29", "text": "fall asleep every time."}, {"start": "04:47:27", "end": "04:47:32", "text": "I bet they use the sound of Alex Jones"}, {"start": "04:47:29", "end": "04:47:34", "text": "voices torture. It's rough, man. I'd"}, {"start": "04:47:32", "end": "04:47:39", "text": "almost rather listen to RFK give a"}, {"start": "04:47:34", "end": "04:47:39", "text": "speech. Alex has got some gravel"}, {"start": "04:47:41", "end": "04:47:49", "text": "essay. AJ got volunt. I did"}, {"start": "04:47:46", "end": "04:47:49", "text": "ago"}, {"start": "04:47:50", "end": "04:47:53", "text": "for"}, {"start": "04:47:54", "end": "04:47:57", "text": "my Italian's a little rusty, but it was"}, {"start": "04:47:55", "end": "04:48:00", "text": "pretty good back in the day. Will this"}, {"start": "04:47:57", "end": "04:48:01", "text": "work for for nasal polyps? It won't. I"}, {"start": "04:48:00", "end": "04:48:04", "text": "looked into that. It won't work for"}, {"start": "04:48:01", "end": "04:48:06", "text": "that. Um,"}, {"start": "04:48:04", "end": "04:48:11", "text": "what the drug does that that I'm talking"}, {"start": "04:48:06", "end": "04:48:13", "text": "about is it's almost a nerve. It almost"}, {"start": "04:48:11", "end": "04:48:16", "text": "operates on the nerve endings in your"}, {"start": "04:48:13", "end": "04:48:18", "text": "nose. So, it tells your nose when when"}, {"start": "04:48:16", "end": "04:48:20", "text": "your nose gets nervous because I had a"}, {"start": "04:48:18", "end": "04:48:21", "text": "nervous nose. Like, oh, something's"}, {"start": "04:48:20", "end": "04:48:23", "text": "changed, so make yourself miserable."}, {"start": "04:48:21", "end": "04:48:26", "text": "It's a It tells your nerves everything's"}, {"start": "04:48:23", "end": "04:48:29", "text": "cool. Don't Don't release a bunch of"}, {"start": "04:48:26", "end": "04:48:33", "text": "snot. Don't Don't inflame. That's what"}, {"start": "04:48:29", "end": "04:48:35", "text": "it does. It's this weirdest thing. But"}, {"start": "04:48:33", "end": "04:48:36", "text": "I'm told to also continue to use the"}, {"start": "04:48:35", "end": "04:48:38", "text": "steroids with it just to kind of"}, {"start": "04:48:36", "end": "04:48:41", "text": "alternate because the steroids help the"}, {"start": "04:48:38", "end": "04:48:43", "text": "inflammation. But this stuff has been"}, {"start": "04:48:41", "end": "04:48:45", "text": "magic."}, {"start": "04:48:43", "end": "04:48:46", "text": "Still a tiny bit congested, but"}, {"start": "04:48:45", "end": "04:48:48", "text": "otherwise it's been magic. And now I can"}, {"start": "04:48:46", "end": "04:48:50", "text": "pronounce words again without feeling"}, {"start": "04:48:48", "end": "04:48:52", "text": "self-conscious."}, {"start": "04:48:50", "end": "04:48:53", "text": "So frustrating because I used to be a"}, {"start": "04:48:52", "end": "04:48:55", "text": "voice like a voiceover artist. They used"}, {"start": "04:48:53", "end": "04:48:57", "text": "to pay me to speak and I couldn't say"}, {"start": "04:48:55", "end": "04:48:59", "text": "words."}, {"start": "04:48:57", "end": "04:49:00", "text": "Info is amazing where all that mucus"}, {"start": "04:48:59", "end": "04:49:02", "text": "comes from. I was thinking the same"}, {"start": "04:49:00", "end": "04:49:07", "text": "thing like during it like how am I"}, {"start": "04:49:02", "end": "04:49:08", "text": "producing all this? Three boxes a day. I"}, {"start": "04:49:07", "end": "04:49:10", "text": "have to turn off my Amazon subscription"}, {"start": "04:49:08", "end": "04:49:12", "text": "because I got a case. I would get a case"}, {"start": "04:49:10", "end": "04:49:15", "text": "like every other week. I got I guess I"}, {"start": "04:49:12", "end": "04:49:17", "text": "got to turn that off."}, {"start": "04:49:15", "end": "04:49:21", "text": "Uh Fax says, \"Thanks. Live chats are the"}, {"start": "04:49:17", "end": "04:49:21", "text": "best.\" I'm glad you enjoy them."}, {"start": "04:49:22", "end": "04:49:26", "text": "Jonathan Gabentin, don't take Gabentin"}, {"start": "04:49:24", "end": "04:49:30", "text": "for this."}, {"start": "04:49:26", "end": "04:49:33", "text": "Careful with the Gabapenton, man."}, {"start": "04:49:30", "end": "04:49:37", "text": "That stuff makes me loopy."}, {"start": "04:49:33", "end": "04:49:37", "text": "I'm just scrolling through the chat."}, {"start": "04:49:37", "end": "04:49:44", "text": "Uh AC, thanks for uh hanging out today."}, {"start": "04:49:40", "end": "04:49:45", "text": "Our other mods, Paul, appreciate you."}, {"start": "04:49:44", "end": "04:49:47", "text": "Everyone, thank you so much for the"}, {"start": "04:49:45", "end": "04:49:48", "text": "super chats, for supporting the channel."}, {"start": "04:49:47", "end": "04:49:50", "text": "I'm sorry if I didn't get to your super"}, {"start": "04:49:48", "end": "04:49:53", "text": "chat."}, {"start": "04:49:50", "end": "04:49:53", "text": "I"}, {"start": "04:49:54", "end": "04:49:57", "text": "do a couple of quick ones before the"}, {"start": "04:49:55", "end": "04:49:59", "text": "wife comes back. There's uh Enigma,"}, {"start": "04:49:57", "end": "04:50:02", "text": "thanks for the company. God bless. Merry"}, {"start": "04:49:59", "end": "04:50:04", "text": "Christmas. Haha."}, {"start": "04:50:02", "end": "04:50:06", "text": "I guess we got we got US Army in the in"}, {"start": "04:50:04", "end": "04:50:07", "text": "the in the chat which is not unusual. L"}, {"start": "04:50:06", "end": "04:50:10", "text": "Bronson been doing an episode of RH"}, {"start": "04:50:07", "end": "04:50:13", "text": "negative individuals on my list. It's on"}, {"start": "04:50:10", "end": "04:50:15", "text": "my list. Um mostly on my list because"}, {"start": "04:50:13", "end": "04:50:16", "text": "that's that's Jen's blood type. Cor"}, {"start": "04:50:15", "end": "04:50:19", "text": "thanks for all you do. You're very"}, {"start": "04:50:16", "end": "04:50:20", "text": "welcome. And for someone who drives for"}, {"start": "04:50:19", "end": "04:50:22", "text": "work, have you ever heard the black dog"}, {"start": "04:50:20", "end": "04:50:24", "text": "or black shuck that warrants drivers to"}, {"start": "04:50:22", "end": "04:50:27", "text": "rest?"}, {"start": "04:50:24", "end": "04:50:31", "text": "I That's an interesting one."}, {"start": "04:50:27", "end": "04:50:32", "text": "I'm going to add that to my um syndrome"}, {"start": "04:50:31", "end": "04:50:35", "text": "research."}, {"start": "04:50:32", "end": "04:50:38", "text": "No, no, nobody should take advapentan. I"}, {"start": "04:50:35", "end": "04:50:41", "text": "tend to agree. I I was prescribed it. I"}, {"start": "04:50:38", "end": "04:50:46", "text": "have it still. And"}, {"start": "04:50:41", "end": "04:50:48", "text": "look, look, I drink. I got a basically a"}, {"start": "04:50:46", "end": "04:50:52", "text": "pharmacy under. I didn't like the way"}, {"start": "04:50:48", "end": "04:50:54", "text": "Gabipentan made me feel. It was um it's"}, {"start": "04:50:52", "end": "04:50:55", "text": "very strange. You know, when you're"}, {"start": "04:50:54", "end": "04:50:57", "text": "drunk, you're drunk, right? You're just"}, {"start": "04:50:55", "end": "04:50:59", "text": "drunk and you kind of really don't know"}, {"start": "04:50:57", "end": "04:51:02", "text": "what you're doing. I mean, you remember,"}, {"start": "04:50:59", "end": "04:51:05", "text": "you don't really know what you're doing."}, {"start": "04:51:02", "end": "04:51:06", "text": "Gabipentin made me feel super drunk and"}, {"start": "04:51:05", "end": "04:51:09", "text": "woozy,"}, {"start": "04:51:06", "end": "04:51:11", "text": "but in my inside of my brain was totally"}, {"start": "04:51:09", "end": "04:51:13", "text": "aware what was going on and was"}, {"start": "04:51:11", "end": "04:51:16", "text": "screaming like it was screaming at me"}, {"start": "04:51:13", "end": "04:51:18", "text": "how uncomfortable it was. Now, I don't"}, {"start": "04:51:16", "end": "04:51:19", "text": "know, maybe it's different. Different"}, {"start": "04:51:18", "end": "04:51:21", "text": "people have different reactions. I'm"}, {"start": "04:51:19", "end": "04:51:23", "text": "usually pretty to pretty tolerant to to"}, {"start": "04:51:21", "end": "04:51:25", "text": "drugs. Gabentton didn't agree with me"}, {"start": "04:51:23", "end": "04:51:27", "text": "and that's what they give like they give"}, {"start": "04:51:25", "end": "04:51:30", "text": "that to my cats"}, {"start": "04:51:27", "end": "04:51:32", "text": "like if they have if we have to go in"}, {"start": "04:51:30", "end": "04:51:34", "text": "for like a stressful procedure they'll"}, {"start": "04:51:32", "end": "04:51:36", "text": "give them gabapentin"}, {"start": "04:51:34", "end": "04:51:38", "text": "probably not as much as I took."}, {"start": "04:51:36", "end": "04:51:40", "text": "So yeah I I don't think anyone should"}, {"start": "04:51:38", "end": "04:51:42", "text": "take it. I don't think anyone should"}, {"start": "04:51:40", "end": "04:51:46", "text": "take Xanax but if you got to take it you"}, {"start": "04:51:42", "end": "04:51:46", "text": "got to take it. I do sometimes"}, {"start": "04:51:47", "end": "04:51:51", "text": "bremon I don't like pills. I don't mind"}, {"start": "04:51:48", "end": "04:51:53", "text": "him. I don't mind him."}, {"start": "04:51:51", "end": "04:51:57", "text": "Unless it's kid watch. Kids watching."}, {"start": "04:51:53", "end": "04:51:57", "text": "Then you should never take anything."}, {"start": "04:51:57", "end": "04:52:05", "text": "All right, just doing one last check."}, {"start": "04:52:01", "end": "04:52:05", "text": "One last check."}, {"start": "04:52:05", "end": "04:52:10", "text": "Uh just putting this out. Paul is a PSA."}, {"start": "04:52:08", "end": "04:52:12", "text": "Don't use Afrin. I never heard of it."}, {"start": "04:52:10", "end": "04:52:14", "text": "Very addictive."}, {"start": "04:52:12", "end": "04:52:16", "text": "And this stuff's not addictive"}, {"start": "04:52:14", "end": "04:52:20", "text": "when I mean it's addictive when you when"}, {"start": "04:52:16", "end": "04:52:22", "text": "you realize how magical it is."}, {"start": "04:52:20", "end": "04:52:24", "text": "But it was it was earlier today. I just"}, {"start": "04:52:22", "end": "04:52:28", "text": "I started sneezing and I went ah didn't"}, {"start": "04:52:24", "end": "04:52:28", "text": "didn't take my squirt."}, {"start": "04:52:31", "end": "04:52:36", "text": "Saber, thank you for that generous tip."}, {"start": "04:52:33", "end": "04:52:38", "text": "Amazing."}, {"start": "04:52:36", "end": "04:52:40", "text": "Fallen angel, please visit uh visit us"}, {"start": "04:52:38", "end": "04:52:41", "text": "which in Salem. We'll show you the"}, {"start": "04:52:40", "end": "04:52:42", "text": "spooky stuff. I'd like to see that. I'd"}, {"start": "04:52:41", "end": "04:52:45", "text": "like to do a trip to Salem. I've been"}, {"start": "04:52:42", "end": "04:52:47", "text": "there, but it's been a long time."}, {"start": "04:52:45", "end": "04:52:49", "text": "There a lot of friends in uh in Mass."}, {"start": "04:52:47", "end": "04:52:50", "text": "All over the place. Mostly Brooklyn,"}, {"start": "04:52:49", "end": "04:52:52", "text": "though."}, {"start": "04:52:50", "end": "04:52:56", "text": "but all over me."}, {"start": "04:52:52", "end": "04:52:56", "text": "I know that Mass Pike"}, {"start": "04:52:57", "end": "04:53:01", "text": "code, thanks for that compliment of the"}, {"start": "04:52:59", "end": "04:53:03", "text": "channel. Merry Christmas to you. Thank"}, {"start": "04:53:01", "end": "04:53:05", "text": "you for the generous tip."}, {"start": "04:53:03", "end": "04:53:06", "text": "Uh Kenneth, that's such a humbler and"}, {"start": "04:53:05", "end": "04:53:10", "text": "selfless video you put up earlier. Oh,"}, {"start": "04:53:06", "end": "04:53:11", "text": "you're very welcome. Uh I don't know."}, {"start": "04:53:10", "end": "04:53:15", "text": "Was it really humble? I don't think I"}, {"start": "04:53:11", "end": "04:53:17", "text": "don't think so. If anything, I felt I I"}, {"start": "04:53:15", "end": "04:53:20", "text": "tried not to be too preachy about it,"}, {"start": "04:53:17", "end": "04:53:21", "text": "you know. and then the video which was"}, {"start": "04:53:20", "end": "04:53:24", "text": "it was off the cuff. It's not like I"}, {"start": "04:53:21", "end": "04:53:26", "text": "scripted that. That's why there's cuts"}, {"start": "04:53:24", "end": "04:53:28", "text": "in there which I rarely do for for those"}, {"start": "04:53:26", "end": "04:53:30", "text": "type of from the heart videos. I kind of"}, {"start": "04:53:28", "end": "04:53:31", "text": "just like to let it flow. But the reason"}, {"start": "04:53:30", "end": "04:53:33", "text": "there's cuts is because I was just"}, {"start": "04:53:31", "end": "04:53:34", "text": "sitting there going"}, {"start": "04:53:33", "end": "04:53:36", "text": "I didn't want you to sit through all"}, {"start": "04:53:34", "end": "04:53:39", "text": "that so you're not missing anything in"}, {"start": "04:53:36", "end": "04:53:42", "text": "the cuts. But uh but that's why there"}, {"start": "04:53:39", "end": "04:53:44", "text": "was cuts. So I took out some of the"}, {"start": "04:53:42", "end": "04:53:47", "text": "rambling. But I didn't I didn't want to"}, {"start": "04:53:44", "end": "04:53:48", "text": "come off too preachy because and I made"}, {"start": "04:53:47", "end": "04:53:49", "text": "sure to say in the video that look if"}, {"start": "04:53:48", "end": "04:53:51", "text": "you're not making a lot of if you're"}, {"start": "04:53:49", "end": "04:53:54", "text": "making 40,000 a year and you got to"}, {"start": "04:53:51", "end": "04:53:56", "text": "break off a percent 400 bucks is a lot"}, {"start": "04:53:54", "end": "04:53:58", "text": "of money because I I totally get that."}, {"start": "04:53:56", "end": "04:54:00", "text": "That's why in the video I was sure to"}, {"start": "04:53:58", "end": "04:54:02", "text": "say that it's not just a appreciation"}, {"start": "04:54:00", "end": "04:54:04", "text": "for what these people do. It's"}, {"start": "04:54:02", "end": "04:54:06", "text": "understanding because I have done it. I"}, {"start": "04:54:04", "end": "04:54:08", "text": "have done it. I've been that in service"}, {"start": "04:54:06", "end": "04:54:11", "text": "industries and stuff and felt"}, {"start": "04:54:08", "end": "04:54:13", "text": "unappreciated and working so hard so"}, {"start": "04:54:11", "end": "04:54:15", "text": "that when someone comes along who's very"}, {"start": "04:54:13", "end": "04:54:17", "text": "generous and understands you it it"}, {"start": "04:54:15", "end": "04:54:19", "text": "really hits you. You know when you when"}, {"start": "04:54:17", "end": "04:54:20", "text": "you serve somebody a couple of beers and"}, {"start": "04:54:19", "end": "04:54:22", "text": "they give you 50 bucks and you're like"}, {"start": "04:54:20", "end": "04:54:25", "text": "what"}, {"start": "04:54:22", "end": "04:54:27", "text": "and you can't believe it because you've"}, {"start": "04:54:25", "end": "04:54:29", "text": "been just taking singles off the bar all"}, {"start": "04:54:27", "end": "04:54:32", "text": "night for, you know, for doing six"}, {"start": "04:54:29", "end": "04:54:33", "text": "cocktails and they throw the dollar up"}, {"start": "04:54:32", "end": "04:54:35", "text": "there because they feel like they have"}, {"start": "04:54:33", "end": "04:54:36", "text": "to. And then you get that one guy who"}, {"start": "04:54:35", "end": "04:54:39", "text": "just you pull a one single beer and he"}, {"start": "04:54:36", "end": "04:54:42", "text": "throws you 50"}, {"start": "04:54:39", "end": "04:54:44", "text": "and and you just you remember that. You"}, {"start": "04:54:42", "end": "04:54:45", "text": "just remember that."}, {"start": "04:54:44", "end": "04:54:47", "text": "And if you're a bartender, you really"}, {"start": "04:54:45", "end": "04:54:52", "text": "remember that dude because when he comes"}, {"start": "04:54:47", "end": "04:54:54", "text": "back in, sit by me. I got you."}, {"start": "04:54:52", "end": "04:54:55", "text": "All right, let me wrap it up before I"}, {"start": "04:54:54", "end": "04:54:56", "text": "get in too much trouble here. Thanks"}, {"start": "04:54:55", "end": "04:54:58", "text": "everybody for coming today. I hope you"}, {"start": "04:54:56", "end": "04:55:00", "text": "have a very, very merry Christmas, a"}, {"start": "04:54:58", "end": "04:55:04", "text": "very safe one. Uh looking forward to"}, {"start": "04:55:00", "end": "04:55:06", "text": "2026. A lot of stuff coming for you."}, {"start": "04:55:04", "end": "04:55:09", "text": "Um, if you're feeling lonesome, we'll be"}, {"start": "04:55:06", "end": "04:55:13", "text": "here on New Year's Eve counting down the"}, {"start": "04:55:09", "end": "04:55:14", "text": "ball, having some fun. Uh, I don't know"}, {"start": "04:55:13", "end": "04:55:15", "text": "if the whole gang's going to be here,"}, {"start": "04:55:14", "end": "04:55:19", "text": "but probably. The wife loves to"}, {"start": "04:55:15", "end": "04:55:22", "text": "entertain. Uh, so it should be fun. Uh,"}, {"start": "04:55:19", "end": "04:55:23", "text": "thanks again for the super chats. Uh,"}, {"start": "04:55:22", "end": "04:55:26", "text": "members,"}, {"start": "04:55:23", "end": "04:55:31", "text": "appreciate you. Patreon, see you there."}, {"start": "04:55:26", "end": "04:55:31", "text": "And Hecklefish will sing you out."}, {"start": "04:55:41", "end": "04:55:47", "text": "And now"}, {"start": "04:55:44", "end": "04:55:50", "text": "the end is near."}, {"start": "04:55:47", "end": "04:55:54", "text": "And so I face"}, {"start": "04:55:50", "end": "04:55:56", "text": "the final curtain."}, {"start": "04:55:54", "end": "04:55:59", "text": "My friend,"}, {"start": "04:55:56", "end": "04:56:03", "text": "I'll say it clear."}, {"start": "04:55:59", "end": "04:56:06", "text": "I'll state my case"}, {"start": "04:56:03", "end": "04:56:09", "text": "of which I'm certain."}, {"start": "04:56:06", "end": "04:56:12", "text": "I've lived"}, {"start": "04:56:09", "end": "04:56:15", "text": "a life that's full."}, {"start": "04:56:12", "end": "04:56:19", "text": "I swear down each"}, {"start": "04:56:15", "end": "04:56:21", "text": "each and every highway"}, {"start": "04:56:19", "end": "04:56:24", "text": "and more"}, {"start": "04:56:21", "end": "04:56:29", "text": "much more than this."}, {"start": "04:56:24", "end": "04:56:29", "text": "I did it my"}, {"start": "04:56:29", "end": "04:56:34", "text": "way."}, {"start": "04:56:31", "end": "04:56:37", "text": "I've loved."}, {"start": "04:56:34", "end": "04:56:40", "text": "I've laughed and cried."}, {"start": "04:56:37", "end": "04:56:44", "text": "I've had my"}, {"start": "04:56:40", "end": "04:56:46", "text": "share illusion."}, {"start": "04:56:44", "end": "04:56:49", "text": "And now"}, {"start": "04:56:46", "end": "04:56:52", "text": "as tears subside,"}, {"start": "04:56:49", "end": "04:56:56", "text": "I find it all."}, {"start": "04:56:52", "end": "04:56:59", "text": "It's also amusing"}, {"start": "04:56:56", "end": "04:57:03", "text": "to think"}, {"start": "04:56:59", "end": "04:57:03", "text": "I did all that."}, {"start": "04:57:05", "end": "04:57:11", "text": "Not in a shy way."}, {"start": "04:57:09", "end": "04:57:15", "text": "Oh no."}, {"start": "04:57:11", "end": "04:57:19", "text": "Oh no. Not me."}, {"start": "04:57:15", "end": "04:57:19", "text": "I did it my"}, {"start": "04:57:19", "end": "04:57:25", "text": "way. But what is a fish"}, {"start": "04:57:28", "end": "04:57:30", "text": "himself?"}, {"start": "04:57:37", "end": "04:57:44", "text": "He truly feels"}, {"start": "04:57:41", "end": "04:57:44", "text": "the world"}, {"start": "04:57:50", "end": "04:57:54", "text": "took the blow."}, {"start": "04:58:06", "end": "04:58:10", "text": "Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Thank"}, {"start": "04:58:07", "end": "04:58:13", "text": "you so much. Let's hear it for the"}, {"start": "04:58:10", "end": "04:58:14", "text": "house. You guys sounded great tonight."}, {"start": "04:58:13", "end": "04:58:17", "text": "And take care of those waitresses, will"}, {"start": "04:58:14", "end": "04:58:20", "text": "you? All right, everybody. Get home"}, {"start": "04:58:17", "end": "04:58:22", "text": "safe."}, {"start": "04:58:20", "end": "04:58:27", "text": "This is Hecklefish."}, {"start": "04:58:22", "end": "04:58:30", "text": "And you know what? I did it. My"}, {"start": "04:58:27", "end": "04:58:30", "text": "You wait."}]

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I'm just I'm just getting into"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "work, which means I'm out of breath"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "because I walked down the hall."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Not up five flights of stairs. I walked"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "down the hall, so I'm out of breath."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "It's going to happen to you two"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "youngsters. Anyway, so I'm walking out"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "of the house this morning and I live in"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "a pretty nice neighborhood. Not a"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "wealthy neighborhood. 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And I look in there and"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "there's no driver"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "cuz it's one of those trucks where"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "in New York we didn't have that. New"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "York a garbage truck. It had like a"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "whole team on it and like five guys in"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "there. I think you had a driver, one guy"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "handling the cans, and two guys just"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "hang on the end. It's a union job. But"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "out west in LA and here too in Vegas,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "it's just a truck with a robot arm. So"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "anyway, I I look into to tip the driver"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and he's like, \"No, man. It's just me."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "It's just me and just me and and the and"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "the machine.\" So I gave him the second"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "emblem and he was like, \"No.\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "\"Well, I it's for the driver. You're the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "driver.\" And so he couldn't believe it."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "He's very very very happy. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "he was a little choked up even, which"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "was kind of which was kind of sad. And"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that's what got me thinking about why I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "wanted to talk cuz that means"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "he doesn't get a lot of envelopes."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> He earns $15 an hour for 12 hours a"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "night, six nights a week."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> Goes to a lot of hard work and"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "dedication to do a job like this. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "not easy."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> Now, I tip everybody."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "And I know there's going to be some of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "you that say, \"Well, it's easy for you"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "to tip everybody with a big YouTube"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "channel.\" No, no, no. Always, always tip"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "everybody. Now, I don't know if it's a"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "New York Italian thing. Everybody gets a"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "little something."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> What's up?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> He give the doorman a hundred just for"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "opening the door."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> Thank you. or if it's because uh"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "everybody in my family is a cop. Cops"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "work for tips, if you know what I mean."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> I had to call the cops just to keep him"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "from killing the poor guy. I gave them"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "each a,000 bucks and told them what"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Nicholas had done."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Then they kicked his ass."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> Um but I tip everybody always have."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Jen and I were just talking just a maybe"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "a day or two ago about our financial"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "situation when we first got together"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "almost 20 years ago."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "which I can't. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "and we were broke. Well, because we were"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "actors in LA, which meant we were always"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "out of work or on unemployment, which I"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "think I was when we first met, or"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "working some stupid job that paid"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "nothing. During that time, we would put"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "in"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "$5 of gas in the car. That was what we"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "not fill her up. I couldn't even imagine"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "who goes and says, \"Fill her up. How do"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "you know how much to put in? Fill her"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "up. It could be 50 G. I don't know how"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "big your tank is. We're going to go f"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "$5, which in LA is not a lot of gas."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Prices in LA County are holding near"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "$4.50 a gallon. That of course is well"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "above the $3.14 a gallon national"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "average."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> It was kind of why why"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "actors really wouldn't date on different"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "parts of the city. Now, we'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "because oh, it's so far and sprawling."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "It's really because gas is so expensive"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "and we're broke. So, I can't afford to I"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "I if I'm living in the valley, I can't"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "go date you in Santa Monica because I"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "might not have enough gas to get home"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> in uh the heart of LA. And it's $7.89"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "a gallon."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> But Jen and I both lived in the same"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "neighborhood. And on that date,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "and really every date since, I picked up"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the check. I tipped the bartender. Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "and not just to show off cuz I think she"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "might have already been passed out."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Sorry, honey."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> Okay, only about five more steps."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "No unlocking the door."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> When I go to a restaurant,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "tip the bartender, tip the waitress,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "server, I tip the hostess when she sits"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "us, I tip the valet on the way in and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "out. And I'm not talking tons of money,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "it's really more of a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "it's symbolic. That's not really quite"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "the right word, but it's a gesture of"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "appreciation"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and for what you do, but for me, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "also a gesture of understanding."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Here's what I want you to do. Think"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "about what you make a year"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "and take 1% of it. And during this week,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "don't you don't have to do it now. I"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "don't know what your situation is, but"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "during this the final week of the year"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "next year, take 1% of your money and"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "just give it around to the people that"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "took care of you all year. I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "guy who picks up your trash."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> We help each other."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Garbage man stick together."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> We help each other, man."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> Mows your lawn. If you see the same guy"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "at the car wash when you go there, the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "same guy at the gas station, servers,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "hostesses, val, everybody who takes care"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "of you, UPS drivers,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> thank you"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "to get to know everybody here. I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "watching your kids grow. I'm watching"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "them start to drive."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "I'm getting old."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": ">> I'm blessed to know each and every one"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "of you. Blessed. Blessed. And just thank"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "you so much."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> I was just totally blown away. I was"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "just it was just amazing. It was just"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "amazing. I couldn't believe that they"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "actually took the the time to put"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "something like that together for me, you"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "know, and uh I'm just I just felt just"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "loved and cared for."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> The Instacart delivery people take very"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "good care of them. It goes a lot cuz I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "talking 1%. So if you make $100,000 a"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "year, break off a,000 bucks. Now I know"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "if you make 40,000,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "breaking off 400 bucks is a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "money. I get it."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "But if you but if you are getting by"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "starting next year, every time you get"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "your paycheck, take 1% of it, whether"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "it's gross or net, what however you want"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "to do it, take 1% of it. set it aside"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "and don't touch it because that's"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "important. Money, never touch that 1% to"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "take care of the people that take care"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "of you. It goes a very, very long way."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "I'm getting kind of emotional because"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "I've been there, you know. I I've been a"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "bartender for a long time."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> You get uh five mojitos."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> I'm out of mint. The GrubHub delivery"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "people who bring food, which I get"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "GrubHub way too much, they get huge tips"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "and tips so big they can't believe it."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Now, I'm not talking thousands of"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "dollars. Like, I'm a celebrity tipper. I"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "mean, 20 bucks."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> I'm here. It's my job."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> That's all right, man. There you go."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> You're kidding."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> That's for you."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> You're joking, right?"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> No, man."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> You're lying."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> No, it's for you. It was a really good"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "biscuit."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> Dude, I cannot take that for a tip. Can"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "I have a tip for you? Oh, thank you."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> There you go."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> You're kidding. No, it's for you."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> I can't see that."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> Yeah, you have to be kidding me."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> I just wanted to make someone's day"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "today. Man,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> you have made my entire year."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": ">> Why me? What?"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> Because you're wonderful."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> You're in."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> You have to take it."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> Real"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "work a lot. And suddenly I was here."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "I don't mind it."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> Well, you deserve it."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> God bless you."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> I appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> Of course."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> What's your name?"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> Happy holidays, Dawson."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Oh, can I give you a hug?"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Yes. Thank you. Oh, you have no idea."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> We just wanted to make someone's day"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "today. So, you're just such a great"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "server."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> You're welcome."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> Give me a hug."}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Thank you."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> Of course. Hope you have a great day."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> They can't believe it because my mind"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "goes,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "here's a, you know, this is a woman in"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "her 60s delivering me Del Taco in the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "middle of the night. What's her"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "situation like that she has to do this?"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> It's hard to watch. A frail and elderly"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "delivery man struggles to drop off the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "packages. Each step is an ordeal."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> I It makes me feel good to help. I felt"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "really bad."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> The homeowner was so moved she set out"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "to locate the delivery man whose name is"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Larry. Turns out he's a Navy veteran."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> Larry had recently suffered a stroke and"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "had to relearn how to walk. He had taken"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the temporary delivery job at Door Dash"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "because he needed to make money to fix"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "his leaking roof."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> Now Jennifer has come to the rescue,"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "organizing a community drive to raise"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "money for the man. He got enough to fix"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "his roof and retire."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> That's awesome."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> So, I want you to break off 1%."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "If you can't, you can't. And if you"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "can't, because you're one of those"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "people taking care of others, you're"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "cleaning houses. You're driving Uber."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> There was days where I would only have"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "maybe like five or six rides for the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> Lift driver Chris Labrada has had to"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "move in with his family as he rides out"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "the financial storm."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> We need to take care of each other."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Because life is"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "it's not it's not a ladder where you"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "start making not a lot of money and work"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "your way up. It kind of goes up and it's"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "a roller coaster because I've been I've"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "been broke and I've done well and broke"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "and done a few times. A few times. So"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "you don't know what part of the roller"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "coaster you're going to be in."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> As of right now and you and your family"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "are homeless."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> Really tough."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": ">> Yeah. What's something I could do to put"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "a smile on your guys' faces today?"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> A roof for the kids. Something for the"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "kids to sleep in."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> So, I'm going to pay for your guys the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "hotel. I'll pay for five nights."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": ">> Think that would be amazing. That would"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "like get us to his first paycheck."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> Pizza time. Got pizza."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> we honestly didn't even know we were"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "going to sleep tonight. We can't thank"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "you enough. So, I don't know if in a"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "year or two I could be delivering"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "sandwiches. I don't know that. It's very"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "possible because it has happened to me"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "before in my 30s, in my 40s, up and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "down. So, you don't know. So, take care"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "of the people and they'll take care of"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "That's socialism. That's how it's"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "supposed to be and that's how it was. We"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "took care of each other."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "Now, it's the government tries to take"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "care of everybody and it doesn't work."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "And we all know that the government"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "is just people that care about"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "So those people get as little as my"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "money as possible, which is why they"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "audit me. But they get as I work very"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "hard to give them as little as possible."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "And it's not because I'm hoarding. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "because that money goes to all these"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "other people who make my life easier."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "So remember that. Have a merry"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "Christmas. I'll be streaming. If you're"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "alone, you want company, you want a few"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "laughs, I'll be streaming all day. And"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "come hang out and we'll see you then."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "to you by Factor."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "In 1745,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "English authorities arrested a man in a"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "London coffee shop for espionage."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "His pockets were full of diamonds."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "He played the violin like a master. The"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "interrogators finally let him go. The"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "man only gave a name, the Count of St."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Germaine."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "And for 200 years, the count would"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "appear at every turning point in"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "European history and American history."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "And in all that time, he never aged a"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> Yum. Yum. I'm all out of bliss. I I need"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "your emergency stash. I"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> I don't have any emergency stash. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "you're not fooling anybody, mister."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Second drawer, left side."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Why do you desperately need blorpus?"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": ">> I've gone vegetarian. And the blurpus"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "will make the food taste better, if you"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "catch my drift."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Drift?"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> What I say? Anyway, I've gone vegetarian"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "to become more ethical to uh correct my"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "comic imbalance."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Every week you're trying to scam people"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "out of money."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> It's just business. Listen, I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "offsetting my personality."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Well, it doesn't seem to be going well."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Well, it's because it's not. Everything"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "I eat tastes like grass and dirt."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> What ingredients are you using?"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> Grass and dirt."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> That might be the issue."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> I thought vegetarian food was supposed"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "to be joyless. Otherwise, how would"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "everyone know I'm better than them?"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> You don't have to suffer to eat"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "vegetarian."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> Suffering is part of the brand, human."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> Or you can just use Factor. They have"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "real vegan and veggie options that taste"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "like actual food."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Oh, did you just put a bow me into"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "today's sponsor? Yep. Factor is a"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "subscription meal service that delivers"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "pre-prepared meals right to your door."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "They're fresh, never frozen, and ready"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "to heat and eat in 2 minutes. 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Head to factor75.com"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "or click the link below and use code the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Y files FB50 to get 50% off your first"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Factor box plus free breakfast for 1"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "year. Offer only valid for new Factor"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "customers with code and qualifying"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "autorenewing subscription purchase."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Code the W Files FB50 at factor75.com"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "to get 50% off uh free breakfast for a"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "year."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> That's right. I hate to say this, but uh"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "the fact that vegetarian meals are"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "actually good."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Of course they are. They're real food."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Well, it's the upsetting part. I was"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "expecting sadness and maybe a lecture."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> No lectures?"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> I didn't have to tell anyone I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "vegetarian."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> Well, you told me."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> Yeah, but if I don't constantly talk"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "about it, am I really a vegetarian?"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "After disappearing from London, the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "count resurfaced 13 years later in"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "France at the Court of Versailles. He"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "dressed in velvet with rings and"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "diamonds on every finger. Nobody knew"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "where he came from or how he got his"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "money. He became the must-have guest at"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "every dinner party. He played piano and"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "violin so beautifully that people were"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "moved to tears."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "And he was a brilliant"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "conversationalist. He spoke 20 languages"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "without an accent. He had immense"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "knowledge about everything. He even"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "impressed Voltaare."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> He is a man who never dies and who knows"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "everything. He is very singular and will"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "probably have the honor of seeing your"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "majesty in the course of 50 years."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> But where the count really excelled was"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "in history. He did a perfect impression"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "of Henry VIII. He knew the details of"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "conversations and relationships that"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "didn't appear in any books. 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He"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "sipped his special elixir, nothing else."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "And nothing tastes as good as skinny"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "fields."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> But the philosopher stone had another"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "quality that interested the wealthy at"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "court. It could change base metals into"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "gold. And the count of St. Germaine said"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "he can prove it."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "One day the count met Jakamo Kasanova."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Kasanova knew a con man when he saw one."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "He handed St. Germaine a silver coin and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "challenged him to turn it to gold. The"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "count accepted. He handed back the coin."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "It was pure gold."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> He took the coin, put a black substance"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "on it, and placed it on the fire. When"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "it cooled, he said, \"Take your coin. I"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "examined it, and it was pure gold.\""}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> King Louie learned about this ability"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "and wanted to know what the count knew"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "about precious stones. The count claimed"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "he could remove flaws from diamonds and"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "even create larger diamonds by melting"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "smaller ones together. The king was"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "skeptical."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> Your Majesty, I have witnessed Christ"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "turn water into wine. Diamonds are a"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "mere trifle."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "I spent 5 years in the sha's laboratory"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "beneath the palace at Isfahan, learning"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "a technique discovered long before"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Archimedes walked the earth."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "The king had a diamond that without its"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "flaw would be worth twice as much."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Give me your flawed stone. In 30 days, I"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "will return it perfect. And if I fail,"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "you may keep my laboratory and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "everything in it."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> A month later, the count returned with"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the diamond. Flawless. The king's"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "jeweler looked at it and valued the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "stone at 9600 Franks, almost double the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "flawed stone."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "The king was so impressed that he gave"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "the count a private laboratory in the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "palace. The count became a fixture at"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Versailles, working all day in his lab"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and spending all night dazzling the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "king's guests."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Then the skeptics got another chance to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "test him. One evening, Countest Voni"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "approached him. She recognized the count"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "from Venice in 1710, about 50 years"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "earlier. The countest asked if his"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "father had been in Venice at that time."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "No, madam. It was I who had the honor of"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "paying you court. You wore? Yes. It was"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "a gown of emerald silk that evening. I"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "believe. Ah, yes. We danced the minuette"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "in the do's palace. You asked me about"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "my travels to Constantinople. And I told"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "you about the Sultan's mechanical bird"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "that sang without winding. You laughed"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "and said I told the most charming lies."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "The countest just stood there staring."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "And after a long moment, she asked,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "\"What else happened that night?\""}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> Your husband, the count, was um gambling"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "in the back room. Yes, that's it. He"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "lost 3,000 duckets that night. You were"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "uh hang on. You were worried he would"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "lose the estate. And then, oh dear,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "two years later, he did. I'm so sorry."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> The countest was stunned. She remembered"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the night perfectly, and so did the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "count. The man she met 50 years earlier"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "was about 45 years old. The man standing"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "right in front of her was about 45 years"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "old. He hadn't aged a day. The countest"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "said, \"You must be 100 years old.\" The"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "count smiled and said, \"That is not"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "impossible.\""}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Dina Chrome, I knew it."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> That's That's just a conspiracy. How"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "many conspiracies have we talked about"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "in this show that came true?"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> All of them."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Uh-huh."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> But the count of St. Germaain was lying"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "about his age. He wasn't 100 years old."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "That number was closer to 2,000."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Word quickly spread through Paris. The"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "count didn't learn history from books."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "He learned it because he was there. He"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "described the court of Nero with casual"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "specific details that no book contained."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> I remember the gardens of Babylon"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "clearly. Nebuchadnezzar would walk those"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "hanging gardens at dawn, muttering about"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "his dreams. He thought God was speaking"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "to him. Perhaps he was. I also remember"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the fire in Rome. Nero didn't start it"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "despite what history claims. But he did"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "play his liar while it burned quite"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "beautifully actually."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> He spoke of the apostles as if they were"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "old friends. And this led to a theory."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Some believe the count was Cartilus, the"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "legendary wandering Jew. According to"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the legend, Cartopoulos was a porter for"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Pontius Pilate. When Jesus stopped to"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "rest while carrying the cross, Cartphus"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "struck him and told him to keep moving."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "Jesus looked at him and said, \"I shall"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "go and I will rest, but you shall not"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "rest until I return.\" Cartilus was"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "cursed with immortality. Destined to"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "wander the earth until the second"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "coming."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> Immortality sounds pretty good until you"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "realize you got to pay alimony for 2,000"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't I don't think he was"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "married."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> 2,000 years and no wife. Uh, this guy"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "should do seminars."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> The legend of the wandering Jew matches"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "the count's description perfectly. And"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "now the wanderer was wandering west. But"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "he wasn't just watching history. He was"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "shaping it."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "The count of St. Germaine had charmed"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Versailles, fixed the king's diamond,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "and convinced an eyewitness that he"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "hadn't aged in 50 years. But he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "content to stay in France. He had work"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "to do."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "He was in Russia helping bring Katherine"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "the Great to the throne. British"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "officers saw him in India speaking"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "fluent Hindi. He traveled to the Hague"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "to broker peace between Prussia and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Austria. In Germany, he taught hypnosis"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "to a young physician named Anton Mesmer,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "who said the count understood the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "workings of the human mind better than"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "anyone alive. And some say this was how"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "the count talked his way out of that"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "English prison back in 1745."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> Jedi mind trick."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> Something like that. You're not the"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "count we're looking for."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> You're not the count we're looking for."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> Move along."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> But his most famous intervention"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "happened in America in the summer of"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "1776."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "The debate about the Declaration of"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Independence wasn't going well. The"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "delegates were terrified. Signing that"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "document was treason against the British"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "crown. The penalty was death. And just"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "as the talks were breaking down, a"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "stranger stood up in the back of the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "room and his voice thundered across the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "hall."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> We have petitioned, we have implored,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "and we have been spurned. If we sign"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "this declaration, the rope awaits us"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> We must hang together, or we shall"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "surely hang separately."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> Gentlemen, you stand at the threshold of"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "history. God has given America to be"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "free."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "Your children will ask what you did in"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "this hour."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Will you tell them you feared the rope"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "more than you loved liberty?"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Prove them wrong. Sign that parchment."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "Men not yet born will read these words"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "and find courage."}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "So I ask you, will you sign"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "or will you explain to your"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "grandchildren why you chose chains over"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "courage?"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "The delegates were inspired. They rushed"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "forward to sign the declaration. And"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "when the frenzy died down, they turned"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "to thank the stranger, but he was gone."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "The doors were locked and the guards saw"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "nothing. It sounds like the same gods"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "who were supposed to be watching"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Epstein."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Let's not get into that. All we know is"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "that the stranger was a man of average"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "height dressed in black who appeared to"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "be about 45 years old. And back in"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Europe, the count continued his work. In"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "1779, he befriended a German prince. He"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "spent the next 5 years as a guest in the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "prince's castle. Then on February 27th,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "1784, the Count of St. Germaine died of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "pneumonia. He was laid to rest at a"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "local church and his funeral was"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "attended by royalty. It seemed the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "immortal man had finally met his end."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "But less than a year later, the count"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "was back."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "The count of St. Germaine died in 1784."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "His body was buried and then in 1785 he"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "started appearing again."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "The French Freemasons chose the Count as"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "their representative. He appeared at"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "diplomatic meetings across Europe. The"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "British saw him in London. The Prussians"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "saw him in Berlin. Then in 1789, he"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "returned to France with a warning. He"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "told the queen's closest friend that a"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "conspiracy was underway to destroy the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "monarchy."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> The sun of France is setting. The"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "Bastile will fall. The mob will storm"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "Versailles. I have watched this pattern"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "destroy Rome and Babylon. Marry"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Antuinette must flee immediately. The"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "people demand her blood. Your children"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "face the same fate."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> The king finally demanded to see the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "count. But once again, he was gone. A"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "few weeks later, the French Revolution"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "began. The Bastile fell. In her memoirs,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "Maria Antuinette wrote that she wished"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "she had taken the count more seriously."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Four years later, the countest Dimmar"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "watched the guillotine blade come down"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "on Maria Antuinette. And standing beside"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "the countest, watching silently was the"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "count of St. Germaine. Same face, same"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "age, 9 years after his funeral. He"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "appeared to the countess one last time"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "in 1820. That's 36 years after his"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "funeral. He told her he was tired of the"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "chaos in Europe."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": ">> I am leaving France. I must go to"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Constantinople, then to England, and"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "finally to the Himalayas."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "I will rest there, but people will see"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "me again in 82 years."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "The count vanished again, but 82 years"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "later, a man moved into a mansion in New"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Orleans. He looked exactly like the"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "count, but this time, he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "interested in politics. He was"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "interested in blood."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "In 1902, a wealthy man named Jacques St."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Germaine threw expensive parties in the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "French Quarter. He spoke flawless"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "French. He was an expert historian and a"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "master musician. And he looked exactly"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "like the portraits of the count from 150"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "years earlier. He claimed to be a"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "descendant. Jacques never ate at his own"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "parties. He just stood by the window"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "sipping liquid from a goblet crew."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": ">> One night, the party stopped."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "A woman screamed. Then she fell from the"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "second story balcony onto the street"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "below."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Bystanders rushed to help her. She told"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "the police she didn't fall. She jumped."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "She pointed up at the balcony. Jacques"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "St. Germaine had cornered her. He"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "grabbed her, held her down, and bit her"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "neck. The police banged on the door. No"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "answer. They broke it down. Jacques St."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Germaine was gone. They searched the"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "kitchen. No food, no silverware, but"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "they found rows of wine bottles cked and"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "sealed. When they opened them, the smell"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "hit them instantly. It wasn't just wine."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "It was a mixture of red wine and raw"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "human blood."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> We told you Jacqu St. Germaine was never"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "seen in New Orleans again. But the count"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "wasn't finished making appearances."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "The vampire of New Orleans vanished in"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "1902, but sightings of the count"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "continued throughout the 20th century."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "During World War I, two Bavarian"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "soldiers captured a man who spoke many"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "languages, but wouldn't give his name."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "He told them the war would end in 1918,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "and he was right. And he also said a"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "tyrant from the lower classes would wear"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "an ancient symbol and lead Germany into"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "another global war in 1939 and that"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Germany would be defeated in 6 years"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "after committing unspeakable acts of"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "violence. The soldiers thought the man"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "was crazy until 1939 when history"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "unfolded exactly as the count predicted."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Then in 1930, Guy Ballard met the count"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "of St. Germaine on Mount Shasta in"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "California. Ballard founded the I am"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "activity movement based on St."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Germaine's teachings. It still exists"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": ">> No, I should start a religion at a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "brotherhood of the golden scale."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "Donations attached deductible."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> Please don't start a cult."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": ">> It's not a cult, human. It's a high"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "yield spiritual investment opportunity"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "involving lizard people mugs. Uh they're"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "available now at the Wi-Fi store and"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "they make great Christmas gifts."}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> No plugs until the end, please."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:42", "text": ">> Wo salesman ever. In 1972, Richard"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "Shanfrey appeared on French television."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "He claimed to be the count of St."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Germaine. He said he was immortal. And"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "to prove it, he performed the count's"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "most famous trick live on the air. He"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "set up a simple camping stove. He took a"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "lead bar. He melted it down in a"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "crucible and added a strange powder."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "When the metal cooled, it wasn't lead"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:02", "text": ">> Did this guy make gold with a camping"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "stove?"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": ">> Yep. It was even tested. The guy made"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "gold from lead. And Shanfrey never"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "revealed his secret. He died in 1983"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "officially by suicide. But believers say"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "the count simply moved on to his next"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "identity. After all, he done it many"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "times before. The Count of St. Germaine"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "was definitely a real person. There's no"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "debate about it. But the claims that he"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "was supernatural,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "well, let's take a closer look."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "People have been telling the story of"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "the Count of St. Germaine for hundreds"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "of years. But how much is true? Well,"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "let's start with the languages. The"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "legends claim he fooled native speakers."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "Not true. When English authorities"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "arrested him in 1745, they noticed his"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "English was broken. He spoke French with"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "a Piedmont accent. That's somewhere near"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "France, Italy, up that area. Now, King"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Louie was taken with him, but the king"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "wasn't a deep thinker. His own doctor"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "called St. Germaine aquat."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Doctors hate anyone who can cure things"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "without a copay."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": ">> The king's chief minister ordered the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "count's arrest. That's why he left"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "France, not to go on some diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "mission to avoid the law. When St."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Germaine turned Kasanova's coin into"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "gold, it wasn't alchemy. It was close-up"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "magic, slight of hand. And Kasanova"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "admitted the count was brilliant, but he"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "recognized a fellow con man when he saw"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": ">> Yay! Game recognized game. St. Jermaine"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "had style. Kasanova just had a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "STDs."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": ">> That's true. Actually,"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": ">> St. Jermaine turned coins into gold."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "Kasanova just turned relationships into"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "awkward doctor visits."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> Now, the king's diamond repair was also"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "likely a switch. Flawed stone in,"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "different stone out. The king's mistress"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "examined the count's gems and laughed."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "She said they were all very pretty, but"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "they were all obviously fake. Even"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Voltater's famous quote about the man"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "who never dies was sarcasm. The countest"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "who recognized him from 50 years prior,"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "well, she was nearly 90 years old and"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "scenile. St. Germaine himself pointed"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "this out, but the legend stuck anyway."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "He was one to build on his own story."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "Richard Shanfrey's television"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "transmutation, that was also stage"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "magic. Chanfrey was a professional"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "entertainer. He used a hallowed out"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "piece of charcoal with gold inside and"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "it was sealed with black wax. When the"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "wax burned off, only the gold was left."}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "The count's final stop was Prince"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "Charles's castle in Germany. And the"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "prince noted that St. Germaain wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "youthful adventurer, but a small"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "gay-haired man in his '9s. The postdeath"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "sightings come from anonymous Theosophy"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "writings. The Marie Antonet accounts"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "can't be verified. Jacques St. Germaine"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "in New Orleans is folklore. There's no"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "eyewitness accounts, no police records."}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Guy Ballard in Mount Chasta. Well, he's"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "a convicted fraudster who plagiarized"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "his teachings from science fiction"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "novels."}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "The best theory is simple. St. Germaain"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "was the illegitimate son of an Italian"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "princess. This explains the specific"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "accent and his familiarity with"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "languages like Italian and French. He"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "was a brilliant man who used charm to"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "befriend wealthy patrons. But when the"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "money ran out, he died alone. But here's"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "what bothers me about that neat little"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "explanation. When St. Germaain died, the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "important items were missing. He played"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "the violin, but there was no violin, no"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "personal letters, no trinkets from his"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "adventures, no money, like he was"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "covering his tracks. Now, the count's"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "death is documented, but his grave was"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "destroyed and his body never recovered."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "The church records still exist, and"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "researchers have requested access over"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "the years. Some requests are granted,"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "but others aren't, and nobody really"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "knows why. Maybe it's just bureaucracy."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "Or maybe someone decided that certain"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "details about the Count of St. Germaain"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "are better left unexamined. Because"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "that's what you do, isn't it? If you"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "were immortal, if you'd learned that the"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "only way to survive forever was to make"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "sure that no one could ever prove you"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "existed, you'd vanish completely. And"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "then you'd start again and again"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "somewhere else, someone new. The story"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "of the Count of St. Germaine is probably"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "debunked, but I will admit there's a"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "part of me that hopes that he's out"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "there somewhere playing the violin,"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "telling stories at dinner parties,"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "sipping his elixir, and waiting for yet"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "one more chance to step in and change"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "the course of history."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "My name is AJ. That cycle"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> game recognized game. 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The code is there to save you"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "money, not make me money. In fact, all"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "that revenue goes to the team, not to"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": ">> I know you want to keep that secret"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "close to your gills, huh?"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": ">> Those are the plugs. And that's going to"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "do it. Till next time, be safe, be kind,"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "and know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "I play in area 51. 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It covered 3 million square ft,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "70 acres of rooms and corridors stacked"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "on multiple levels."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "The Egyptian priests allowed visitors on"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the upper floors, but the chambers below"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "ground were off limits. They claim those"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "rooms belong to the kings who built the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "labyrinth. Archaeologists say the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "labyrinth is a myth, but new technology"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "proves it's still down there. 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You really need to get out of"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> What I really need is for you to wire a"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "few grand into my account. Uh, one for a"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "plane ticket to get out of this"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "casserole pot buck and two for more bird"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "ends. They're delicious."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> What are you doing there in the first"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "place?"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Midwest barbecue. Human brisket so"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "tender it tasted like it had been"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "slowcooked by a choir of angels. 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And shipping was excellent."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Everything arrived perfectly packed,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "still cold, and the smoked salmon"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "incredibly fresh."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> Now, hey, I thought you didn't eat on"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "camera."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> I don't."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> That's what makes Gold Belly special."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "It's memorable, unique, and so much more"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "exciting than anything from a grocery"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "store or delivery app. If you're looking"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "for that perfect gift for everyone on"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "your list or want to impress your"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "friends and family with an unforgettable"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "meal, go to goldbelly.com and get 20%"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "off your first order with promo code the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "W files."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> I count the W files for 20% off my first"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "order."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Perfect. I don't have to fly to New York"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "for bagels anymore."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> Great. Now, will you get out of that"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "corn field and get back to the studio?"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "I'm trying, human, but the corn keeps"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "moving closer. Uh, and I'm pretty sure"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "those kids are forming a circle. If you"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "start chatting again, I'll delete my"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "search history, would you? Uh, it's what"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "I would have wanted."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "Hara sits at the edge of the Fume Oasis"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "about 50 mi south of Cairo. Today, it"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "looks like a pile of rubble in the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "shadow of the crumbling black pyramid."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "But 4,000 years ago, this place was"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "alive."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "And right in the middle of it was a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "building that made the pyramids look"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "like toys. The labyrinth. Historians"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "wrote about it for 600 years. Different"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "eras, different languages, different"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "cultures, but they all described the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "same thing. Herodotus was there around"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "450 BC. The priest who ran the complex"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "acted as his guides. They walked him"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "through the upper structure. He saw"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "thousands of rooms connected by winding"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "passages. He described it as intricate"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and confusing. A massive structure"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "designed to overwhelm the senses."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> So it was an IKEA."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> No, it was a sacred administrative and"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "religious center, not a furniture store."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> I don't know. Thousands of rooms, no way"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "out, people wandering around crying. I"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "throw in some Swedish meatballs. And"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "then that's IKEA."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> Heroditus said the construction was"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "beyond human ability."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "I saw it myself and I found it greater"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "than words can say. For if one should"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "put together all the buildings and great"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "works produced by the Greeks, they would"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "prove to be inferior to this labyrinth."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "The labyrinth surpasses even the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "pyramids."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> The upper floor alone was massive, and"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "around the maze of rooms were 12"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "enormous chambers called courts. Each"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "represented one of Egypt's regional"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "governments. and the upper structure was"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "only a small part of the complex."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "The priest told Herodotus about the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "underground chambers, but refused to"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "show him. Only priests went below. They"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "said the lower levels held the burial"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "vaults of sacred crocodiles, mummified,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "wrapped in linen with bronze teeth and"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "eyes made of jewels."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> Yeah, great. Now elucid people got"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "bling."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> There are two kinds of chambers. one"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "below the ground and the other above,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "3,000 in number. But the chambers"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "underground we heard about only, for the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Egyptians were not willing to show them,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "saying that here were the kings who"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "first built this labyrinth and of the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "sacred crocodiles."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Thousands of rooms above and below. That"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "distinction matters. Amed III is linked"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "to the labyrinth around 1800 BC, but the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "priests implied the original builders"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "came earlier. Much earlier,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "four centuries after Herodotus, Roman"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "geographer Strao wrote that the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "labyrinth was still there and was still"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "in use. Strao was just as stunned as"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "Heroditus. But one feature stood out."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> No stranger can find his way in or out"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "without a guide. But the most marvelous"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "thing is that the roof is made of a"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "single stone with no wood or other"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "material involved."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> Strao saw a roof made of massive stone"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "slabs. No wood, no beams, just millions"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "of tons of rock floating over their"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "heads. Over a hundred years later, the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "labyrinth was still there. Historian"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Diodora Siculus wrote about it. So did"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Plenny the Elder. Everyone knows the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "legend of the Minotaur, Thesius, and the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "Labyrinth. It's the most famous maze in"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "history. Plenty the Elder said the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "famous Greek labyrinth was just a cheap"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "copy."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "There is no doubt that Dedalus adopted"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "it as the model for the labyrinth built"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "by him in Cree, but that he reproduced"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "only a hundth part of it."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Heroditus, Strao, Plenny, Theodora"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Siculus, all kinds of historians"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "describe the same thing. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "levels, thousands of rooms, an"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "impossible maze, architecture and"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "construction far beyond anything humans"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "are capable of. And there's another"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "detail every historian agrees on. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "is allowed to enter the lower chambers,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "and for 2,000 years, nobody did."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Eventually, the labyrinth was looted and"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "quarried for stone. Archaeologists said"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "there's nothing left of the Hawara"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Labyrinth but rubble and sand, if it"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "existed at all. Boy, were they wrong."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "In 1888, the world's most famous"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "archaeologist arrived at Hara."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Sir William Matthew Finder's Petri was"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "more than an academic. He was an"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "explorer. He lived in rock tombs. He"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "fought off bandits and invented the"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "methods archaeologists still use. He"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "came to Hara to find the tomb of a"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Metamat thei. What he found was a death"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "trap. The pyramid was designed to kill"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "anyone who entered it. Petri spent"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "months digging into the rock trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "find an entrance, but every tunnel was a"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "dead end. He realized the pyramid wasn't"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "solid stone. It was mud brick held"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "together by loose sand and it was"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "unstable. As he dug, the tunnel kept"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "collapsing. Sand poured in like water."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "At one point, he was crawling through a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "narrow passage. Suddenly, his shoulders"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "jammed against the stone. He tried to"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "move. He was stuck."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Nope. Nope. I'm having a panic attack"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "just listening to this."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> Petri was pinned in a stone coffin. He"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "had millions of tons of brick, sand, and"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "mud pressing down on him. He tried to"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "call for help, but he couldn't breathe."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Then his candle went out."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "But this was Flender's Petri. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "panic. He just waited. Eventually, a"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "worker behind him realized something was"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "wrong and tossed a lit match down the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "tunnel. That brief flash gave Petri the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "orientation he needed to twist free. But"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "he didn't quit. He lit another candle"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "and went back in. He tried the north"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "side first, but found nothing. So, he"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "took a chance and tunnneled south. And"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "after just a few feet, he found an"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "entrance. And not just a hole. He found"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "a door with steps leading down under the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "pyramid. But now he had a new problem."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Hara sits on a canal just off the Nile."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Centuries of irrigation raised the water"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "table. The steps disappeared under"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "salty, filthy water. Petri went in"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "anyway."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "He crawled through the slime, darkness,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "and swarms of rats. When he finally"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "broke into the inner passages, the water"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "was chest deep. He found sliding trap"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "doors and false passages. He found"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "massive stones hanging from the ceiling,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "rigged to drop on intruders."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Please, please don't. You're you're"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "ruining the tension."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Petri disarmed the traps one by one."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "When he finally reached the central"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "chamber, it was carved from a single"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "block of yellow quartzite. The roof was"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "made of three slabs of white quartzite,"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "each weighing 45 tons. It was an"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "architectural masterpiece, and it was"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "empty. Tomb robbers got there first."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Feeling defeated, Petri studied the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "field of rubble next to the pyramid. He"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "found the remains of an enormous"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "building that covered 70 acres. Petri"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "realized what he discovered. The"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "location matched ancient maps. The"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "dimensions matched ancient descriptions."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "He was standing on the foundation of the"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "lost labyrinth of Hara. He was sure of"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "it, but there was not much there. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Petri packed up and went back to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "England. It was a tremendous discovery,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "but he was disappointed that the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "labyrinth was gone. But Petri forgot one"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "thing. The labyrinth went down multiple"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "levels. He thought he discovered the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "foundation. It was actually the roof."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "The labyrinth wasn't destroyed. It was"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "right under his feet and it's still"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Louie deordier wasn't an archaeologist."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "He was a Belgian artist and philosopher"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "who spent years studying ancient"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "architecture. He was convinced Petri"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "missed something."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "It took 2 years, but the Cordier managed"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "to get a permit to survey the Hara site."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "He partnered with Egypt's National"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Research Institute of Astronomy and"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Geophysics, and he brought the most"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "advanced ground penetrating radar"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "available. The Cordier's team started"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "scanning in early 2008. The equipment"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "could see through 50 ft of sand and"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "sediment, and what they found confirmed"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "2500 years of history."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "They found a massive grid of walls 40 ft"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "down. The walls were several feet thick"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "and they were granite, not brick. The"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "structure covered about 750,000 square"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "ft. That's the size of 10 football"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "fields. They published the results. The"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "press picked up the story. This was one"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "of the greatest archaeological"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "discoveries in history. Then nothing."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Zahiwas was Egypt's Secretary General of"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "the Supreme Council of Antiquities."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> Secretary General of the Supreme"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Council."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "The ego of this guy."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "He was the most powerful archaeologist"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "in the country and he controlled all the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "permits. He imposed a communication ban"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "on the discovery. He said it was a"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "matter of national security."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> National security on a 5,000-y old"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "building. This guy's got some stones,"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> right? The Cordier waited. 2 years"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "passed. The official release never came."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "The team couldn't discuss their"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "findings. They couldn't publish"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "follow-up research. They couldn't return"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "to the site. Not unless HASS allowed it."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "By June 2010, Dordier had waited long"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "enough. He published the data himself."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Scans, reports, analysis, everything the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Egyptian government refused to release."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "They blacklisted him. Dordier now lives"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "in the mountains of southern Spain. He"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "went from presenting at European"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "universities to farming almonds. Dordier"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "lost everything just for sharing data he"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "collected legally with the help of the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Egyptian government. But Zahiwas wanted"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "to make an example of him. He wanted to"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "make sure no one else tried to expose"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "their secrets. But Dicardier wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "only one."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "If you find something in Egypt that"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "challenges the official timeline, you"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "don't get a Nobel Prize. You get banned."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "In 1993, German engineer Rudolph"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Gatenbrink sent a robot up a narrow"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "shaft in the Great Pyramid."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "He found something nobody expected. a"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "limestone door with copper handles. He"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "made the mistake of telling the world."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Has immediately banned him. Then Has"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "took the robot and the credit"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> and he was the one Zahi supposedly"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "discovered. But he's discovered"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:27", "text": ">> I discovered I discovered I discovered I"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "discovered now"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "about what I discovered in the stone"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "that I discovered. I want to show the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "whole world what I discovered. and I"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "discovered major important things."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Are they online?"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> No. In my book, Giza and the Pyramids."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "In my book, Giza and the Pyramid."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> It happened again in April 2008, the"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "same month that Cordier was scanning at"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "Hawara, researcher Andrew Collins was a"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "Giza."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "He followed old notes to the tomb of the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "birds. Collins found a crack in the rock"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "leading to a massive chamber. He and his"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "team made it several hundred yards into"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "a system heading toward the second"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "pyramid. They found carved rooms and"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "passageways."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Collins reported it. Big mistake. Has"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "said the caves didn't exist. Collins was"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "banned from the site. A few months"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "later, Has was filmed entering the same"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "caves."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": ">> Rules for the but not for Zahi. You see"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "what I did there?"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> Has called exploring the caves an"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "incredible experience, but nobody else"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "would have that experience. In 2010, a"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "metal gate was installed over the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "entrance. No further exploration is"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "allowed."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": ">> You cannot just go in directly like"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "this. You have to make a study. You have"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "to research it. You have to decide as a"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "scientist when can you do it and when we"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "can we do that we can come on. I MEAN WE"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "WE sent wrong."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Hang on."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Why give you permission today of"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "nonsense? What you believe it's"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "nonsense. Listen, we listen if the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "matter is debated and closed. It is"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "closed. It's closed in Chicago. My work"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "is by then."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:20", "text": ">> Jimmy, I want you to understand this"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "conspiracy theory that you do have is"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "wrong completely. We do not hide"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": ">> We have the scan pyramid team,"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": ">> right? They're working."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": ">> But you understand this is different"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": ">> I understand. But they know about this"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> But have they used this technology?"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> They said this technology cannot work."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": ">> Discovery, suppression, silence, the"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "same pattern. And the same man behind it"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "all. Zahi Hawas. The labyrinth exists."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "It's considered the greatest structure"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "of the ancient world. It's right there"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "40 ft underground. But no one is allowed"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "to dig."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "On July 21st, 2015, a private meeting"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "took place in the Crown Hotel in"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Harriet, England."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": ">> A very complex"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> Tim Acres was a former RAF officer and"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "satellite expert. He spent his career"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "tracking submarines and underground"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "bunkers. He had something to show a"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "small group of researchers. He used"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "synthetic aperture radar, the same"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "technology that finds hidden nuclear"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "sites. Acres pointed it at Hara. The"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "scan showed four levels beneath the"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "roof, not one. They were separated by up"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "to 100 ft of solid rock. A central"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "corridor connected all four levels. It"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "was a vertical shaft running the full"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "depth of the complex extending 150 ft"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "underground. An omega-shaped moat"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "surrounded the entire structure. The"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "shape matched the Egyptian Shen ring,"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "the symbol of eternity."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Then Acres showed them the central hall."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "The bottom level stretched 300 ft long"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "and 120 ft wide. Every level converged"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "on this space. And at the center of the"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "hall was a freestanding object. It"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "measured about 130 ft long. But here's"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "where the story gets crazy. The radar"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "return signal changed. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "reflecting off stone. It wasn't wood or"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "mud brick. The signature was metallic."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "a solid metal object the size of the"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Statue of Liberty buried 100 ft"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "underground shaped like an upright disc"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "or a ring. Acres said the material"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "signature was unlike anything he'd seen"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "in his entire career, but it was there"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "and he didn't think it was a tomb. The"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "shape suggested something functional, a"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "ring that size, made of metal, buried at"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "the exact center of a four-le complex."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "It wasn't decorative. It was built to do"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "something. Some of his team thought it"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "was a portal. Others thought it could be"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "a power generator. The only thing they"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "agreed on, it wasn't a coffin."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "Acres and his team kept the finding"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "secret for a decade. They learned from"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Dortier, if you go public, you get"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "blacklisted. They wanted to excavate."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "They needed permits. After 10 years of"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "quiet negotiations, they finally"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "released the data in 2025. Still no"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "permit. It's a four-level underground"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "complex with 130 ft metallic object at"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "the center. It's associated with Pharaoh"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Amendamoth III around 1800 BC. But the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "Egyptian priest said the labyrinth"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "wasn't built by the Pharaoh as a burial"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "tomb. It was built by a much older"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "civilization as a library. Those ancient"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "people needed a place to store their"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "knowledge before they were wiped out in"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "a great flood."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": ">> You mean"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": ">> the priests were talking about Atlantis?"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Yi,"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": ">> when Plato wrote about Atlantis around"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "360 BC, he was specific. He named his"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "source. He said Egyptian priests told"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "the story to the Greek statesman Solon"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "two centuries earlier. The priests had"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "records, they had dates."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "Plato said Atlantis fell around 9600 BC."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "Geologists say the ice age ended around"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "9700 BC. Robert Shock dates the Sphinx"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "to 9700 BC. Three different sources, one"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "specific date. For most of history, that"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "date meant nothing. No civilization"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "existed that early. Then we started"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "finding things."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "Around 9700 BC, the younger driest"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "period ended. Global temperature spiked"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "and the ice sheets collapsed."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Sea levels rose over 400 ft. Coastlines"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "around the world flooded."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "Entire land masses vanish beneath THE"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "WAVES."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> HOW DARE YOU?"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> Every major ancient culture has flood"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "myths dating to this exact period."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Different cultures, different continents"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "with no contact. But they tell the same"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "story."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "The Egyptians had their own version."}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "They called the pre flood era zeppi or"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "the first time. The pyramid texts talk"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "about it repeatedly. These are the"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "oldest religious writings in the world."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "The tourin king list has dates and"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "durations. Divine rulers that reign for"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "thousands of years before human"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "pharaohs. This wasn't vague mythology."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "These were administrative records."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Mainstream Egyptology calls this"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "symbolic. They say the gods represent"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "concepts, not beings. Then there's the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Temple of Horus at Edfu. The Edfu"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "building texts span over 300 feet of"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "wall space. They describe the temple's"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "construction on foundations from an"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "earlier structure that existed before"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "the flood."}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "They reference beings called the Shbuu."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "These were followers of Horus who"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "arrived after a great cataclysm"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "destroyed their homeland. They also"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "mentioned seven sages who came with them"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "from an island swallowed by the sea."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "These aren't scribbles on a papyrus."}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "These are carved into the temple walls."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "And these texts describe what these"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "beings did. They established sacred"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "mounds throughout Egypt. They laid"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "foundations for temples at precise"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "locations. They brought knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "astronomy, architecture, mathematics,"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "and medicine. They taught the people who"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "would become the first Egyptians. Now,"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "this doesn't read like mythology. This"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "reads like history. The Edifu texts"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "describe a lost civilization that"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "brought knowledge to Egypt. Mainstream"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "historians call it a nice story. They"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "say there's no physical evidence that"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "this first time ever existed. They're"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "wrong. The evidence is carved into the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "bedrock itself."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "In 1991, geologist Robert Shock took a"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "close look at the Great Sphinx. The wall"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "showed vertical fissures. These are"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "erosion patterns caused by prolonged"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "rainfall. Not wind, not sand, water"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "falling from the sky over extended"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "periods."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Egypt's last significant rainfall ended"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "around 5,000 BC. Shock estimated the"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "minimum construction date for the Sphinx"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "was between 7,000 and 5,000 BC, but he"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "later pushed that estimate to 9700 BC"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "based on additional geological analysis."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "This was directly after the cataclysm"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "and directly after the floods receded."}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "The same weathering appears on the"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "Asarion at Abbidos. Massive red granite"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "blocks are cut with precision modern"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "engineers struggle to replicate. And"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "there's water. Constant water fills the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "lower chambers and it cannot be pumped"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "out. The site was designed for water."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Edoir Neil excavated the Sireon in 1914."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "He was a mainstream Egyptologist, not a"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "fringe theorist. He said he wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "surprised if this was the most ancient"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "architectural structure in Egypt. He was"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "ignored. Strao explicitly stated both"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "the Assyrian and the labyrinth shared"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "the same builder. He called the king is"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Mandis. Same builder, same era, same"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "construction techniques."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "Gobecity in Turkey proves advanced"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "construction existed in 9600 BC. Massive"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "stone circles, carved pillars weighing"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "tons, astronomical alignments precise to"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "fractions of degrees. It was built by"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "people who supposedly hadn't invented"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "agriculture yet. Then it was"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "intentionally buried around 8,000 BC. It"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "was as if someone wanted to preserve it"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "and keep it hidden. Someone was here"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "long before the ancient Egyptians. And"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "whoever they were, they helped jumpstart"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "Egyptian civilization."}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "Hieroglyphics appeared suddenly around"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "3,500 BC. They were complete and"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "perfect. There was no developmental"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "period, no primitive early versions."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "Math, medicine, astronomy, architecture,"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "all appeared fully formed. It was as if"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "someone handed the Egyptians a complete"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "operating manual. And that operating"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "manual is still here. Every bit of"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "ancient knowledge is in the labyrinth."}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "We can read it right now, today. All we"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "have to do is dig."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "If an advanced civilization knew it was"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "about to be destroyed, they would do"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "exactly what we would do. They would"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "preserve what mattered. They would store"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "knowledge somewhere it could survive."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "They would build a vault."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "Every civilization builds archives from"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "the Library of Alexandria to the Vatican"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "archives. In the 1930s, Edgar Casey"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "described another archive. Casey was a"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "trans medium. He delivered over 14,000"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "documented readings across 43 years. He"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "diagnosed medical conditions for"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "patients he'd never met, conditions he"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "had no training to identify. Doctors"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "used his readings for treatment, but his"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "most controversial claims involved"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "Atlantis."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Hundreds of readings across two decades"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "returned to the same subject."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "According to Casey, an advanced"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "civilization was destroyed around 10,000"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "BC."}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "This was around the end of the last ice"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "age. It's the same time frame as the"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "younger dus cataclysm."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "But there were survivors. They scattered"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "to Egypt, the Yucatan, and the Bahamas."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "They brought technology. They brought"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "knowledge. And to preserve that"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "knowledge, they built archives. Casey"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "described a hall of records beneath the"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "Giza plateau in dozens of separate"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "readings between 1923 and 1944. He"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "described 32 tablets documenting"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "Atlantis from the beginning. They were"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "written in both Atlantan and Egyptian"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "script. It was a Rosetta stone for a"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "lost civilization. And Casey was"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "specific. He talked about their"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "technology sound waves used for"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "construction, acoustic levitation. He"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "described crystals that generated power."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "The entrance is under the Sphinx right"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "paw and the Sphinx served as a guardian"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "sentinel. It marked the archives"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "location for those who know where to"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "look."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "Casey's followers took him seriously. In"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "the 1990s, the Association for Research"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "and Enlightenment funded seismic surveys"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "at Giza. A man with a sledgehammer"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "pounded a steel plate on the desert"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "surface. Shock waves traveled down"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "through the rock and back up. The"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "reading showed a chamber exactly where"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "Casey predicted. It was beneath the"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "Sphinx paw. And he wasn't the only one"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "who saw it."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "Darthy Edy was a British archaeologist"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "who worked for the Egyptian Department"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "of Antiquities. She was a sane, rational"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "researcher who also happened to believe"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "she was the reincarnation of an ancient"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "priestess."}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": ">> Oh, I believe her. I was a king in a"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "past life."}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": ">> You were a king."}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> Okay. A shift manager out of Taco Bell"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "in Jersey, but I ruled that drive-thru"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "with an iron fin."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": ">> I was a strict but fair shift manager at"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "Taco Bell. We have a whole episode on"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Dorothy Edy."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> Link that in your chalupa."}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": ">> Now, someone claiming to be a"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "reincarnated ancient Egyptian priestess"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "sounds fringe, but archaeologists"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "listened to Darth Edy because her"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "memories helped them find actual ruins"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "at Abdos. And she claimed that beneath"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "the Sphinx lay a hall of records"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "containing the history of the past. And"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "seismic readings show that the ruins are"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "there and that they contain something."}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "Now, it could be rubble or it could be"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "artifacts. Nobody knows. The only way to"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "find out is to dig. But no digging is"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "allowed."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "Right now, a team from the Polytenic"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "University of Milan is at Giza. They're"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "using cosmic ray muan radiography"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "technology that sees through stone like"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "X-rays see through the body. They claim"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "they're mapping structural voids. And"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "look at where they're scanning. They're"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "focusing on the deep bedrock beneath the"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "plateau. The exact place where Casey"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "said the Hall of Records is waiting to"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "be opened. The Italians are scanning"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "deep under Giza right now. They're"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "looking for the Hall of Records and they"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "might find it. But if you were an"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "advanced civilization and you wanted to"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "hide your most precious secrets, you"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "wouldn't put them under the most famous"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "landmark on Earth. A much better place"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "for such important knowledge would be a"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "maze carved deep underground. In other"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "words, a labyrinth."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "Maybe the Hall of Records isn't in Giza."}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "Maybe it's in the labyrinth. Giza served"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "as the public monument. It was the"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "marker. Three pyramids visible for"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "miles. Everyone knew where Giza was."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "Everyone still does. But if you wanted"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "to hide something, you wouldn't put it"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "under the most famous landmark on Earth."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "You put it somewhere less obvious."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "Somewhere with better security."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "Somewhere designed from the beginning as"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "a vault."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "3,000 rooms underground. Climate"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "controlled by the Earth itself. Perfect"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "conditions for preservation. Guarded by"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "priests for 2,000 years. a structure so"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "complex that intruders can never find"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "their way out. The labyrinth wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "tomb. It was a repository. Historians"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "documented it. The surface levels were"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "Egypt's administrative hub. Government"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "operations were visible to visitors. The"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "middle levels held the religious"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "archives and the crocodile burials"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "Heroditus talked about. The deepest"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "level was for technology storage. It"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "held a 130 ft metallic ring, a portal"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "that the priest protected but never"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "fully understood. The priest said it was"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "created by the builders, not the"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "pharaohs, the people who came before."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "They weren't guarding burial chambers."}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "They were guarding the knowledge of the"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "Zeppi. They were guarding the secrets of"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "the first time."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "Ancient accounts across six centuries"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "describe the same structure in the same"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "location. 2008 ground penetrating radar"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "confirmed a massive complex 40 ft"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "underground. 2015 satellite imaging"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "revealed four levels and a metallic"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "object at the center. Both discoveries"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "were suppressed."}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "The 2008 expedition happened. There's"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "nothing to debunk. They published"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "results. They found granite walls"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "spanning an area of 10 football fields."}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "Has imposed a communications ban citing"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "national security. The Cordier published"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "independently and was permanently"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "blacklisted. The suppression is real and"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "the structure is confirmed. We still"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "don't know what's down there. Scans show"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "anomalies that require excavation to"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "interpret. The metallic reading could be"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "an object or it could be a geological"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "formation. Iron deposits occur"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "naturally. And critics say satellite"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "radar can't penetrate that deep. The"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "claims require digging to verify. And"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "until we dig, we have no idea what the"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "metal object actually is. The Italian"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "scans show voids. Now, whether those"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "voids contain rubble or records, we"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "won't know until we dig. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "Atlantis connection is interesting, but"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "Plato's account is the only primary"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "source. No archaeological evidence"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "confirms a pre-flood civilization with"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "advanced technology. Casey's readings"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "were never independently verified, and"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "the Edu text could be mythology, not"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "memory. And mainstream archaeology"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "firmly rejects the idea of an advanced"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "ancient civilization."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:01", "text": ">> Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, pal."}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": ">> I'm throwing rocks tonight. They refuse"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "to accept the geological and physical"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "evidence because it breaks their model"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "of history."}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "But conventional dating can't explain"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "the water erosion at Giza. Shocks"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "geology hasn't been debunked. It's been"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "ignored. The Osirian shows identical"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "weathering on megalithic blocks that"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "dwarf anything the Egyptians built."}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "Goletly proves sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "construction existed in 9600 BC or"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "before. The flood myths align with"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "geological evidence for the younger dus"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "catastrophe. Something happened at the"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "end of the ice age. Something we don't"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "fully understand. Meanwhile, the"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "labyrinth is in trouble."}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "Salt water is eroding everything. The"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "water table rises every year. In 2024,"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "geologists warned that if something"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "isn't done about the water damage, soon"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "the entire site will be destroyed."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "Thousands of years of history gone. And"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "so far, their advice has been ignored."}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "The greatest wonder of the ancient world"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "is dissolving. While bureaucrats argue"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "about permits, and any scientist who"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "dares speak up is blacklisted by"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "Zahiwas, the structure is real. The"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "scans confirm it. A massive metal object"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "is sitting at the center of a great"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "underground hall. The priest guarded it"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "for thousands of years. And now, when we"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "finally had the technology to see what's"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "down there, we're not allowed to look."}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "Heroditus stood at the entrance to the"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "underground. The priest told him no."}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "2500 years later, we're still standing"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "at the same door. And now Zahiwas is"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "telling us no. But walls do more than"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "keep people out. They keep secrets in."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "And if the scans are right, the secret"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "waiting in the labyrinth isn't just"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "about Egypt's past. It's about all of"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "ours."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "Thank you so much for hanging out with"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "me today. My name is AJ. That's"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:55", "text": ">> foreign types with the hookah pipe. Wayo"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "wayo"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "look like an Egyptian dink."}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:01", "text": ">> This has been the Y files. 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I don't touch any of it."}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": ">> Keep that super close to your kills."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:13", "text": ">> Last plug. In a few weeks, I'm launching"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "a new show called The Basement, where"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "I'll be talking with interesting people."}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "Some of them you know, some you don't,"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "but they're all people that I find"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "fascinating, and a lot of them are the"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "names behind the research to the stories"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "that I do here. And if there's someone"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "you'd like to see on the show, let me"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "know. We're always on the hunt for good"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "guests. Again, the show is called The"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "Basement, and the episodes will land"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "here on the main channel until I figure"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "something else out. Anyway, that's going"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "to do it, right? That's going to do it."}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "Until next time, be safe, be kind, and"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "I played Valia in Area 51. A secret code"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "inside the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "well as music singing like I should"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "then another conspiracy theory becomes"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "the truth my friends"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "Mel's home with MK out. I feel only"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "aware."}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "landing alone on a film set? I would"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "shadow people there."}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "The Rwelling just fought the smiling"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "man, I'm told, and his name was cold."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "But I can't agree. I'm catch up with the"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "fish and your face on Thursday night"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "through the night."}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "One more through the night."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "The Mman sidings and the solar storm"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "still come to a gather the secret city"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "underground. 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Can't love"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "to dance when the feeling is right"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "in time."}]

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Um, in a few"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "weeks, maybe the beginning of the year,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "I'm going to be launching a new show"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "called The Basement, and it's going to"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "me having conversations with interesting"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "people. So, another podcast."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "It should be fun, though. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "if anyone's going to watch it. I hope"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "you do. Uh, the reason I'm popping on"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "here"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "I just saw Shawn Ryan's video that he"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "just released a couple hours ago."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "that Congressman Dan Krenshaw is"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "threatening to sue him for defamation"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "because Shawn is asking questions about"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "how the congressman is making his money,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "stock trades, and so forth. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "I thought we're allowed to ask questions"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "of our government."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "They can sue us for that. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "thing. They can't. They can't."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Congressman Dan, you know Dan, he's the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "he's the guy with the patch. He's the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "pirate looking fellow"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "threatening to sue. I've been threatened"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "with lawsuits a few times in my life,"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "certainly since doing my show."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "And I respond in the same way to every"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "threat. Bring it. Let's do it. See you"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "in court. Let's do discovery. Let's do"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "the whole thing. Let's drain each"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "other's resources and waste each other's"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "time. Let's do it. Cuz they never do."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "It's I'm reminded of"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "a bar fight. You've been in a scrap."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "We've all been in a scrap now and then."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "If if two dudes are yelling at each"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "other, they're not going to fight,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "right? That's if I'm being barked at,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "I'm not worried. It's the quiet guys you"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "worry about. Guys that are going to"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "fight, they just fight. So, if you're"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "going to sue, just sue. Don't threaten"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "to sue because now you're calling"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "attention to the whole thing."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "On December 9th, 2025, I received a"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "legal demand letter from lawyers"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "representing Congressman"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Dan Krenshaw."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "They are threatening to sue me for"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "defamation because of comments I made on"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "my podcast about a message that he sent"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "me. They want me to remove content,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "issue a public apology,"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "and stop talking about him."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "I'm not going to do any of that."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "I have questions about Dan's and"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Pelosi's and everybody's stock trades."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Is it It's one of those issues that"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "every American agrees on is is our"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "elected officials shouldn't be allowed"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "to insider trade. They shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "allowed to trade at all. It should be"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "blind trust, no trading, live on your"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "salary, or do something else. I"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "commented on my show about Congressman"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Krenshaw throwing an extremely expensive"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "party and the fact that he seems to have"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "become quite wealthy during his time in"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Congress."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Remember Dan is the guy who complained"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "when people asked him about his stock"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "trades. He complained that he they don't"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "pay him enough money."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "So, sure. Yeah, why not? Don't let us"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "trade stocks. How about how about how"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "about just we'll just keep whipping"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "ourselves. Let's how about we don't make"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "any money either. How about like just"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "cut our paychecks? We haven't gotten a"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "pay raise since 2008. I think they"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "started 170,000 a year full benefits I"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "think health care for life that sounds"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "nice. I don't know what what your health"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "insurance cost but mine is crazy."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "So uh maybe do something else if that's"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "not enough dough for you that you got to"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "work the stock market."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Dan's also the one who threatened"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "violence against Tucker Carlson. Didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "he say something like if if he sees him"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "he's going to kill him or something like"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Have you ever met Tucker?"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Twitter."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Hm."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Violence and money. That's interesting"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "cuz Dan looks like a pirate, right? What"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "are pirates like? Pirates like violence"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and money."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Hey, look. If you're going to look the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "part, might as well do it. So, do I"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "think uh Krenshaw is going to sue Shawn?"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "I doubt it. What a terrible mistake."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "This whole thing is so such a terrible"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "mistake."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Who is who is running his PR?"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Um cuz now we're all talking about it."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "And look, I don't have a platform like"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Sean's."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "You know, only a couple of million"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "people watch my show. But you know that"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "on the Y files, I speak truth to power."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "I look for government corruption. I call"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "it out. I name the names. I tell you who"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "I think should be in prison. Looking at"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "you, James Clabber."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "So, what I wanted to see is if you could"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "give me a yes or no answer to the"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "question, does the NSA collect any type"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "of data at all on millions or hundreds"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "of millions of Americans?"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "No, sir."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "It does not."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "Not wittingly."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "So, now I'm going to follow this story."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "I'm going to follow the story about"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Congressman Dan, the lawsuit, all of it."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "and uh I'll do it on the Y files. I'll"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "do it on the basement."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Here's my response. No, I'm publishing"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "their full demand letter along with my"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "lawyer's response so that you can read"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "both and decide for yourself whether my"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "interpretation was unreasonable. This"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "isn't really about whether I"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "misunderstood a message. This is about"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "whether a sitting member of Congress can"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "use the threat of an expensive"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "litigation to silence criticism. I asked"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "questions about Congressman Krenshaw's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "wealth. Those questions are fair game."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "He is a public official. He makes"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "decisions that affect all of us. He"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "trades stocks while having access to"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "classified and non-public information."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "The public has a right to ask how he's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "getting rich while he's in office."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Anyway, we'll be following this closely."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Um, if there's anyone you'd like to see"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "come in here and have a conversation,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "absolutely. Now, we have to have Shawn"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "in here to talk about this. Um, I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "know if you caught my my talk with him a"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "couple months ago. Pardon me. It's not a"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "professional operation, but I think we"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "had a very interesting conversation."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "You are what me and my wife watch just"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "about every night when we climb into"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "bed. And uh, so to meet you is pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "surreal. Thank you for coming. uh at"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "breakfast and I said that I said uh I"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "don't believe you but it's very sweet"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "and I'll say it again but it's very nice"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "of you to say"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "I think I could have done a better job"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "and I think it was a good conversation."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "I'd love to have him uh come in here"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "talk more about some of the uh some of"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the things we have in common, some of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the weird stories and conspiracies we"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "both enjoy. But now I got to we got to"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "talk about this beef with Dan Krenshaw."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "But if you think you're going to silence"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "me with legal threats, you've badly"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "miscalculated."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "I'm not going anywhere. And neither are"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the questions. Thank you, Dan. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "we'll talk soon. This is the new world."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "This This is the medium. We have the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "power. Not Dan. Not his attorneys. We"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "have the power. The people have the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "power. They hate it."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "It's only going to get worse for them."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "And I'm here for it. And I hope you are,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "too. I'll talk to you soon."}]

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Brent,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "what's yours?"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Wow, Blake, we got a big show tonight."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "We have some information coming in from"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "David Grush. He dropped some bombshells"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "today on the Megan Kelly show. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "outstanding. But before we get to that,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "what are we looking at here? Some some"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "sort of trans medium craft going in and"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "out of the water. Simply amazing. Look"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "at that. Now, let's get to today's"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "story. The David Grush and what he had"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "say on the Megan Kelly show. Listen up."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> There's a deeper program called the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "legacy program. Yeah. that has really"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "seems to have been trying to hide the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "most shocking pieces of what we know"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "from even the UAP task force. Um, we've"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "had Lou Alzando on this show and he"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "talked to us about some of what we'd"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "learned. This is years ago. 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Um, and even in a recent"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "previous administration, in the Obama"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "administration, there was certainly um"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "actions taken uh strategically uh to"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "help a particular uh presidential"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "candidate uh possibly if if this um"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "subject were to become normalized and"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "they got elected president. So, there's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "been a lot of gamesmanship and a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "uh I'll call it house of cards type type"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "activities in the past. But it is true"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "that a lot of people have been uh"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "withheld. I found it deeply disgusting"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "and shocking that even I was not fully"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "accessed into these activities and I did"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "have a congressionallymandated need to"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "know. I investigated this on behalf of"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the first Trump administration and some"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "of Trump's cabinet members and and"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Senator Rubio when he was sen, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "a senator now Secretary Rubio and um"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "providing my findings up the chain. Uh I"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "was just very disturbed uh to find uh"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "how this was controlled. The"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "self-licking ice cream cone,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "unaccountable. Everybody owns a piece."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Nobody owns the outcome. And there's not"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "really a mob boss. The closest person we"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "got that uh I was aware of was"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "unfortunately now deceased Vice"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "President Dick Cheney."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> All right, there you go. We've been"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "saying this for decades now. Dick Cheney"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "basically knew everything with regards"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "to the crash retrievalss, the craft, the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "bodies, the debris, the triple threat."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "And now Dick Cheney is gone. He just"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "died about a month ago and maybe a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "little longer, but maybe the truth went"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "with him too as well. Uh Henry"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Kissinger, another one that probably"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "knew a lot of secrets, you know, all"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "taken to the grave. Uh Liz Cheney, she's"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "still around. She is a powerful woman. I"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "bet she has some hidden secrets that Mr."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Cheney told Liz during their, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "long years of marriage. I'm sure she has"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "insight to uh the phenomenon. Again, uh"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Grush is kind of a little upset. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "there's really, you know, I'm liking"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "Grush. Grush is pretty much a guy that's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "kind of giving this the straight"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "straightforward answer. He's not afraid"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "to come forward and he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "criticizing everybody else that's kind"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "of, you know, passing the buck and not"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "really trying to get the the information"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "out and nobody's accountable. And that's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the problem in Washington right now. And"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "even the best like uh Paulina and and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "Congressman Tim Burchett, they seem to"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "be stonewalled at every corner. They're"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "they're trying to break down the walls,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "but seems like another one comes up. And"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "that's just the way it is in in the UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "uh phenomena, the field, basically. It"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "seems like two steps, one step forward,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "two steps back. That's just way it goes."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "And Grush is uh again a little, you"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "know, he's upset. He He's really trying"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "to get disclosure. And nobody's"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "following them. Nobody wants to, you"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "know, knock blow the blow it all wide"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "open. Everybody seems to be in it for"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "some sort of reason. They're keeping it"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "close to the vest. All right, let's"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "listen to uh more of what David Grush"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "had to say to Megan Kelly,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> uh Darth Vader himself. Not shocking"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "that he was involved in this. And"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "essentially when he left in 2009, that"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "was the last time that these activities"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "really had central leadership."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> Yeah. because the film posits that you"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "know the the current and the last head"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "of CIA probably don't know but there's"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "like lower branches within the CIA that"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "have specific responsibilities and the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "career employees there probably do and"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "they don't look at the political"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "appointees brought in by a president as"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "someone to whom they need to disclose"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "anything they're like this guy's going"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "to be gone in you know a year two years"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "four at the most I'm not going to keep"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "disclosing closing this to person after"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "person. I'm keeping this very dark as my"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "predecessor did. And they all it also"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "posits that when it's super secret,"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "they've been offloading the research to"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "private contractors and that way they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "don't have to include any of these"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "disclosures in response to foyer"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "requests made of the federal government"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "because it's been given to a private"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "entity. But that too leads to no"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "accountability and no no person over the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "life of you know 20 years who's got real"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "responsibility because companies get"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "sold, new people come in and then these"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "companies may just exploit the materials"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "for the latest technological advantage."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "you know, who knows like I don't know"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "some AI development or some fast speed"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "train development that a company may"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "have used the information to build a"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "commercial advantage with."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> That's totally true. you you've actually"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "accurately described how it is. Uh early"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "on the global war on terror, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "the money that was initially given to"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "these companies was essentially"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "reallocated uh for overseas contingency"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "operations and these contractors"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "essentially uh started to do their own"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "thing if you will something called IRAD,"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "internal research and development. And"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "uh privately they continued certain"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "things that actually the government was"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "trying to cancel as it relates to the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "subject and they went off um and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "retrieved and exploited things"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "essentially on their own uh and only"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "loosely accountable back uh to their"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "government handlers. And it's it's funny"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "you mentioned the CIA. Um"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "naturally there's a lot of uh good men"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "and women that work there. Uh my wife"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "actually was a CIA officer and she also"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "served in the Air Force with me. Um but"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "uh Chairwoman Luna and the task force"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "and the committee staff uh certainly I"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "assisted in my other uh professional"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "capacity um helping Representative"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Burlson's office did send legal"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "interrogatives uh to several agencies"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "and private companies. CIA was one of"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "them um and curiously enough uh CIA"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "provided what I considered extremely"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "disrespectful response. They declined to"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "answer our interrogatives on this"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "matter, which is their participation in"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "crash retrieval operations, and just"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "referred us to the Pentagon's Arrow"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Office, which has a nebulous and a"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "concerning history in itself. And I just"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "find it very interesting that CIA uh did"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "that. Now, I'm not saying John"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Rackcliffe or Michael Ellis, who's the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "acting general counsel and deputy"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "director, had a hand in that response."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Uh but they certainly are the leaders of"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "their organization. John Rackcliffe has"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "spoke positively on this issue"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "previously and I I would hope that John"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Rackcliffe was placed there uh by DNI"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Gabbard and the president to enact some"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "reforms on the CIA and unfortunately the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "CIA has a lot of skeletons in its"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "closets. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> yeah, that saying the least there David"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "again John Radcliffe the CIA they're"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "going to hold their secrets. They're not"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "going to just lay their cards out."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "That's the CIA is not in the business to"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "do that. uh they're taking care of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "operations"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "uh outside of the US borders. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "what they're supposed to do. If they're"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "kind of involved in the US borders, you"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "know that there's there's some"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "controversy there. They're supposed to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "be outside operations. But then again,"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "the CIA, uh they don't answer really to"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "anybody. They if they die, they die"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "without any mention. They're kind of on"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "the fields kind of like the silent"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "phantoms as as kind of a guardians of"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the United States. But CIA definitely,"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "like you said, David, has a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "skeletons in their closet. And I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "the UFO phenomenon and the technology"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "behind it is on their top list of"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "keeping things secret. That's probably"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "what uh they're in the business for,"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "obviously. And David Rush, again,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "they're they're talking about this movie"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Age of Disclosure, and it seems like it"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "was just kind of the tip of the iceberg."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "everybody had the information, but"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "they're only giving basically 10% of the"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "truth when they know 90% of it. Uh that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "seems to be the problem with what uh"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "David at Grush David Grush is what he's"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "coming across here and he's the insider."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "He knows what's kind of really going"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "down between these these people. So"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "again, David had a lot to say. He's got"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "some more right here. Some bomb"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "bombshell stuff coming up here. So, good"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "job, Megan, getting this interview from"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "David and"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> listen to some more on what he had to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "say."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Um, other things I know about that I"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "can't talk about that are conventional"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "national security issues, uh, but the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "crash retrieval issue, unfortunately, is"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "is certainly one of them. And they've,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "um, done a lot of concerning things."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> What's being alleged by you and many"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "others is that is that they have literal"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "skeletons in their closet or whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> they do,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> whatever's inside. an alien being. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "because here's it's it sounds crazy to"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "just throw it out there short form."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Sounds crazy, but it person after"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "person, distinguished scientist after uh"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "intel person is making the same claim,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "validating the stories about Roswell"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "telling other stories that have happened"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "at um it's it's many military facilities"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "with what appears to be a clear alien"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "craft coming overhead, looking almost"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "diamondlike in shape, being huge,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "sitting there, hovering, coming from"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "something like 80,000 ft and dropping"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "down then hovering in in a way that no"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "vehicle that we know of, right now could"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "possibly do. Nothing invented by man."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Um, here is a montage from the movie of"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "top US officials talking about how all"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "of this is relevant because it may pose"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "a serious national security threat. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "stop 42."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> Well, crash and retrievalss is basically"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "the number one right here. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "there's been a 113"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "uh crash and retrievalss recovered by"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "the United States that we have in our"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "assets. Imagine that. 113"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "basically spacecraft. We don't know"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "where they're coming from. They're not"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "ours. They're not our adversaries. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "something of technology beyond our"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "imagination. And we have them within our"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "within our uh assets basically being"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "studied. And Rubio and everybody else,"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "they're basically stating that this is"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "true. But it seems like our our"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "government can't move it forward and"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "knock these doors down."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "That's the problem."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "But oh man, we just need that one"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "smoking gun, right? We just need one"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "spaceship. Maybe civilians pick it up"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "one of these days and get it out, get it"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "on film fast enough or the government"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "just can't scoop it up."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "But again, that's for another day down"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "the road. Could happen tomorrow, could"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "happen next year. Keeping fingers"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "crossed. Okay, here comes another one. A"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "big bombshell regarding a clap."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "unidentified object."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> Third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": ">> I I just want to play one more. Um here"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "we have former Navy pilot describing the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "UAP's defying extreme weather and"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "physics in SOP 45."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "And there's testimonial after"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "testimonial like that. David, that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that's not unique to have an experienced"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "fighter pilot like our our men and women"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "in the military have been quietly coming"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "forward and reporting on this for a long"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "time only to be told, \"Keep your mouth"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "shut.\""}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> No, that's true. And I I have Air Force"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "pilot friends of mine that have seen um"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "astounding things while on duty to"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "include uh glowing triangular craft uh"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "you know, hovering above other aircraft"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "cruising at you know 50,000 ft. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "did want to point out uh General"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Clapper, the former DNI in the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": ">> That's right, Megan. He said it right"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "there just a couple seconds ago. Keep"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "your mouth shut. And it seems like that"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "that's just the way it is with the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "military. You know, pilots, they don't"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "want to come forward. It's this ridicule"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "factor. Once they come out, they"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "basically get demoted, fired, and if"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "they keep opening their mouths, even"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "worse. Who knows? But uh it's"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "unfortunate. We But if you're out there,"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "hey, we're right here. Third phase mood."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Let's get the word out and just break it"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to the world. If you got any videos"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "smoking gun, you got to get it out fast."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "That's just the way it's going to work."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "That's the protocol. Don't keep it uh"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "hidden or try to monetize it. You just"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "need to share it with the world and and"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "set it free. Okay, here comes the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Clapper uh mind-blowing statement."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Listen,"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": ">> um I certainly applaud him for at least"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "speaking out in general. Um he goes on,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "I believe, I've only seen clips of Age"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "of Disclosure, not the whole thing. Um"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "where there was a program when he was"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "the director of national intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "uh where they were tracking these"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "vehicles over Area 51, of course, the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "famed uh classified test location. And"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "I'm a little bit disappointed as a"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "fellow Air Force officer and certainly"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "General Clapper ra rose to the ranks as"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "three star general. Uh that's all he"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "said in the documentary that that was uh"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "a program he was aware of. Uh in fact uh"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "without being inappropriate I will say"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "that General Clapper was well aware of"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "the crash retrieval issue, managed the"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "crash retrieval issue and when he was"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "the DNI, USDI and DIA director, he"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "placed people in critical roles uh to"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "manage this issue. uh both publicly and"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "I'll just say not uh non-publicly as"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "well and I'll allow the audience uh"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "distill what I'm saying uh at the at the"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "risk of being inappropriate or going too"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "far with my uh discussion. So uh General"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Clapper, Stephanie Sullivan, other folks"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "in the IC that are well aware of this"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "issue that were in rooms discussing this"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "issue. Um I ask you to be uh greater"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "leaders on this. I should not be the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "only former uh military officer and"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "intelligence official uh that is uh"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "being completely candid with the"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "information that they were exposed to."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "So um perhaps"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> once again James Clapper understates"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "what he knows and what he's done."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> There it is. sounds like General Clapper"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "of, you know, he he ran the whole thing"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "and he's acting like he just knew a"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "little piece of it, but he was basically"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "the president of the department and he's"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "acting like uh yeah, he walked into"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "something and somebody gave a little"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "attention to it. Wow, that's pretty big"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "uh claims there, Gush. I I believe you."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Now, we need to hear from Clapper and"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "see what he has to say. Well, there it"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "is. Hey, Grush is uh stepping it out,"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "saying some words today and had to share"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "it right here at Third Phase."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": ">> The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there can give"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "since the '60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": ">> Serious questions that emit a growing"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "we knew this was going to happen,\""}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "humanity."}]

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Brent,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "what's yours?"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Yeah, let's roll it again. Let's look at"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "this thing. We're seeing something very"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "bright. You see that? It just [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "lights up just like a a Roman candle."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "This guy's getting a pretty good shot of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "this thing as it just kind of hovers."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "He makes a statement. He says his car"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "was running, but you could not hear a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "thing. 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Let's roll it a few"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "more times."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "There was no launch of any SpaceX in"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that region. So definitely we're going"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "to rule that out. But you could see the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "intensity of light. It glows like the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "sun. It looks like daytime out there."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Could this be some sort of celestial"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "event or something otherworldly?"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "All right, we have a Paul Barrett new"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "music just came in and we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "playing that at the end of our show and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "we're looking forward to hearing that."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Paul Barrett rocks. And what else rocks?"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "We got new footage just in. Check this"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "All right, we had to mute the audio."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "There was a, you know, they're using a"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "lot of colorful language and there was"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "[music] some music playing in the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "background. But the best part is we're"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "looking at an intense UFO sighting."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "[music] Guys, what is this?"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "An array of lights that look like a"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "flying disc in the background. Could it"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "be some sort of building? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "These people seem in shock when you hear"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "their voices. Unfortunately, I had to"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "mute it, but they have no clue what this"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> All right, we've got some amazing videos"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "right here at Third Phase of Moon, like"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "I said. Now, take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "The next frame is zoomed in a little bit"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "more. So, you see it come down."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "It flies down there. It checks things"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "out"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "and then flies up"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "and then flies at full speed right past"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "my drone as I'm flying [music] towards"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it and you can't see what it is. So now"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "this is zoomed in of the field."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "You see this object come down."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "It like stops nearly, but it's still"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "it's like it's checking things out. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "actually routinely going and checking it"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "cuz like it was a bug but like way too"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "big to be a bug. And then boom,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "it flies past the drone at a speed that"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "I I can't really describe. So here's it"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "slow motion."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "It's coming down. So, the slow motion, I"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "think the only thing that I can tell"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "from this because the resolution now"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "zoomed in so close,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "you can't really see what it is. But you"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "can see it almost has like movement to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "it. But again, if it really was a bird,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "it wouldn't fly past the drone that"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "fast. I've seen birds while I'm out"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "there. I try to avoid them at all costs"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "because I I'm I'm there for uh you know"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "protecting the environment and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "conservation and stuff like that too."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "what is this thing?"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "So, I'm going to do a few maybe still"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "shots uh coming up of the uh object"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "flying past the drone, but again, it"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "just looks like a gray streak. It I"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "cannot really tell what it is. So, is"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "this my first recording of a UFO? I"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "don't know. You tell me. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "there's going to be a lot of trolls. I"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "know you're out there. Please comment"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "anyway and tell me it's a bug. Tell me"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "it's another drone. Tell me I'm faking"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "this with AI. Whatever. But that's not"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "the goal of my channel. My channel, this"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "is completely off off topic. My channel"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "is about wildlife and capturing what"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "happens when when you're not there. And"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "uh I didn't even know I recorded this"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "All right, that's some pretty good"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "footage. Whatever it is, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "unidentified. That's why we're sharing"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "it now. Now, new footage just in just a"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "couple days ago over Los Angeles. People"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "thought they saw some sort of uh some"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "lights and a possible missile. Look at"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "right. see that one the pretty much"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "brightest orb just kind of take off"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "right in front of those three orbs that"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "are just kind of continuously rising."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Oh, actually there's quite a few more. I"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "I I'm counting five at the moment."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Interesting. Yeah, these guys are"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "getting a good shot. What is this? The"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "typical orbs."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "That one is booking. I've seen a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "SpaceX launches. I don't quite see the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "tail right in the beginning. It's just"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "It seems like just a bright orb that's"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "moving quite quite a bit faster than the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "other ones. Let's watch this a few more"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "times."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "unfortunately, I had [music] to mute the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "background because there's some music"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "and we don't need any copyright uh music"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "strikes here. So, we had to tone that"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "down. But, I'll give you a little"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "presence. So, what these guys were"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "excited. You could hear [music] them"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "kind of totally in shock and awe and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're they're they have no clue what"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're filming."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "right there going north Los Angeles."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "I think there were multiple sightings of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "this uh just that of a scene. So, I"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "might pull that up, bring it up for"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "tomorrow's episode. All right, we got"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "more footage just in to third phase."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Smash that thumbs up, guys. We're just"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "getting started here."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my. There"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "it is. Don't, bro. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my. There"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "it is. Don't Bro, I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> All right. Just a couple days ago, I"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "uploaded a video and we saw these these"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "array of lights moving from one point in"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "the sky to the other within seconds."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Here's new video of the phenomenon again"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "kind of making their the rounds around"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "the world. Look at this. These things"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "are they're just streaking across"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "[music] the sky. Listen."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my. They're"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "good. Oh, bro. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "You can see him just he's trying to"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "point out the origin of where these"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "lights are coming from. And there seems"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "to be no point of projection. Is there"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "something in the sky shooting down or"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "something from the land shooting into"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "the cloud layer?"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my good,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "bro. I can't make this up. Or could"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "these be craft just pure [music] energy"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "moving at immense speeds here?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> Yo, I can't make this up. Oh my good,"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "bro. I can't make this up."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Yeah, pretty amazing when we get these"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "kind of videos right here at third phase"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "of moon and they're basically matching"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "uh sources from different locations but"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "showcasing the the phenomenon the same"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "uh exact kind of a you know sighting"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "that you could describe with this kind"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "of detail. This is incredible. Again,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "this rules out AI or CGI, which people"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "claim that everything you see here on"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "this channel is AI hardly. Yeah, we make"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "mistakes, but all these videos that we"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "showcase tonight are 100% legit coming"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "in from the people, the real people."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Now, I wanted to give you a heads up"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "that Michael Soliv made this statement"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "at the National Press Clubs decades ago"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "and it's still relevant today. Let's"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "listen to this. And a new Paul Bear song"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "at the end of this episode. Can't wait."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "academy 1964 [music] until 1971"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and separated as a captain. In uh uh"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "March of 1967,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "I was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Base, Montana"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "um as a missile launch officer, Minute"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Man Missiles. Uh on an on a early"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "morning of uh March 16th, 1967,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "I got a call from my security guard,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "primary security guard upstairs. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "had about uh six, as I recall, uh flight"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "security uh airman upstairs. I was"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "downstairs 60 ft underground in a"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "capsule uh monitoring and uh controlling"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "10 uh nuclear tipped Minuteman missiles."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Uh I got a call that morning"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "uh that they were seeing strange lights"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "flying in the sky. Uh I I disregarded"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "that call. Uh told them to uh call me"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "when something more significant"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "happened. Um, I got another call uh"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "subsequent to that call and this time it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "was a more uh intense tone in the in the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "guard's uh voice is very clearly very"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "frightened. Um, he said there was a uh a"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "bright glowing red object hovering"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "outside the front gate. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "ovalshaped. Um, he had all the other"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "guards out there with their weapons"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "drawn. Right after that call, I woke up"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "my commander who was on a rest period."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "uh uh Fred Maywald, a retired colonel"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "now, uh and told him about the phone"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "calls. As I was telling him about the"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "phone calls, my weapons started going"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "down uh one after the other. They went"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "into a no-go condition, what we call"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "no-go condition. They were unlaunchable."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Um [clears throat] we lost somewhere"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "between uh six and eight weapons that"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "morning. uh within minutes of having"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "received that second phone call of a UFO"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "hovering outside the front gate. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "uh again that morning we re after"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "reporting it to the uh command post uh"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "we we were informed that a similar very"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "similar incident happened at Echo"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Flight. Uh I was at Oscar Flight."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "uh they lost all 10 of their weapons in"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "under similar circumstances, very"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "similar circumstances where UFOs were"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "cited over the launch facilities."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Uh they had they had maintenance crews"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "and security crews out there that had"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "spent the night and they were reporting"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "UFOs over those sites. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and the commander of of that flight was"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Eric Carlson. Uh he's he uh also"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "separated as a captain and the deputy"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "commander was uh Walt uh Feele"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "uh retired as a lieutenant colonel. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "we have those witnesses uh that I just"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "mentioned the names I just mentioned are"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "uh have have spoken of this event before"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "and they will back up this story. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "also have documentation"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "uh that I received uh through FOA"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "requests from the Air Force uh outlining"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the the Echollight incident and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "including in in that documentation a"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "reference to UFOs. We have um TX's uh"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "covering this incident."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Uh and in one TX it it says uh the fact"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "that no apparent reason for the loss of"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "10 missiles can be readily identified is"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "caused for grave concern to this"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "headquarters."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Uh this was from SAC headquarters."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "[clears throat] So we've received we've"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "got those TXes. I've got about 12"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "witnesses that'll verify parts of this"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "story,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "including um"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "uh of a man who investigated the"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "incident afterwards for the Air Force."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "And you'll hear a little bit more about"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "that with from the next witness."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "um and also"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "another guard that uh witnessed a UFO in"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "that same time period and another"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "officer who retired a full colonel who"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "had other reports of UFOs"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "and siliary to that excuse"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "[clears throat] me I've got the complete"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "report on a Minot North Dakota incident"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "that was not Air Force Base North Dakota"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "which happened in August of 1966. 6 very"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "similar UFOs cited over uh uh missile"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "silos and also a UFO incident that was"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "that was investigated by the Air Force"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "immediately after our incident within a"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "week. I'm willing to testify to the"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "truth of all these matters that I've"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "spoken about in front of Congress under"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "oath."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "What's your thoughts guys? Do you"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "believe in Michael Salah? Is he telling"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the truth? 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I just wanted to give though"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "everybody a heads up. Paul Bear just"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "launched [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "a new song and it's incredible. We're"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "going to be playing it at the end of"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "this video and I I want you to stick"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "around to listen to it. And then right"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "now we're going to share a trailer for"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "our comic book series Battle to"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Disclosure. It's basically happening in"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "real time and this could be how"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "Disclosure rolls out. 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I know everybody from around the"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "world's watching us right now, and it's"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "good to be with everybody from around"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "the world. Give us a big thumbs up,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "guys. Uh, we've been looking over this"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "video. I want to get your thoughts."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Brent, what's yours?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Yeah, Blake. Let's roll this a few more"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "times. We're going to get some"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "close-ups. This just came into our feed"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "just a couple hours ago. 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Look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "third."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Man, Brent, these videos, they're"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "baffling. I I still can't even explain"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "what we're looking at. But whatever it"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "is, it's unexplained. The people that"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "shot it, they don't know what's going"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "on, guys. We want to get your opinions."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "What is happening above our skies right"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "now?"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Now, we've got more videos just since"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "the third phase. 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This is a great shot right here."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "And I think there's a couple series of"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "shots. There it is. Right in front of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the power lines. This kind of gives it"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "some scale. So, I'm going to say this"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "one's, you know, not it's pretty it's"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "not as big as a a a car. 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That's kind of the what I like"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the best. But here here's another great"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "closeup."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "It it seems like it's made out of metal."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "It's It's no balloon. You can see the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "the classic dome right on top of it. And"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "everything seems pretty legitimate here,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "especially when you roll the video. I"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "like it. So, we're going to uh cue that"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "up. But right here is a it's a great"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "photo and a great closeup of whatever"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "this object is."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Now, here's that video. Seems like the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "shape looks good."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "See some birds flying. This guy's"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "running to [music] get his best vantage"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "point. I like that. Then he zooms in."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Hm. There was one part of the video that"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "caught my attention, but I don't know."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Everything looked pretty good, but you"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "know, people are, you know, trying to"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "copy paste that into a moving picture."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "It would take some good tracking and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "camera seem pretty shaky. So, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "thinking this is pretty legit footage,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "but I'm still a little bit on the fence."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "What's your thoughts, guys?"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "All right, we've got some amazing videos"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "right here at Third Phase of Moon, like"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "I said. Now, take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "All right, this just came in and we're"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "kind of blown away of what we just saw"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "here. this photograph that was just"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "captured over Campinas, Brazil, December"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "25th, 2025, Christmas. [music] And look"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "at this thing."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "It looks like,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "you know, this typical UFO, what you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "would call one of ours with our techn"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "with our technology, but maybe the DNA"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "of some alien [music] science uh put"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "into this aircraft, this flying vehicle."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Again, this is just came in into our"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "feed, and I'm pretty impressed with"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "this. Look at that. We're going to get a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "closeup in just a moment, but notice the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "sharp angles on this thing."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Boom. There it is. A closeup. And notice"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "the the vetting venting system down at"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the bottom where it could be some sort"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "of a means of propulsion. I'm not sure."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Uh it seems like some more some sort of"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "like exhaust uh uh ports. Not not saying"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "I know exactly what I'm talking about"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "here, but look at the framing of this"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "this flying craft. [music] We see on the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "top the dome is kind of a segmented"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "again with this kind of maybe window"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "embedded at the top. I'm not sure. Does"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "that look like a window, guys?"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "And I like the way it just like has this"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "this point right there at the bottom."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And it creates this kind of sharp edge"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and kind of the the horizontal wings on"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the on the on the edge of it, too. Look"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "at the points of them. They're they're"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "angled to this kind of precise [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "precision of points and angles. This"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "isn't no balloon, guys."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "If you were in Campenis"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "uh December of this year, right before"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "we hit the new year, and if you saw"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "this, send it straight to us right to"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "third phase because it's I you remember"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "in the beginning of the V uh this video,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "I mentioned that first flying craft"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "looked like it had these sharp edges to"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "it. Could this be the same craft?"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "That video just came in moments ago."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Maybe these that that sighting and this"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "photograph is in connection to the the"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "same event."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Yeah. Had to share this one guys. It"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "just came in uh again taken December"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "25th, Campinas, Brazil. This flying"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "vehicle captured in its true clarity"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "right there. People are asking where's"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the clear UFO videos or photos. Uh well,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "this is one of them, but is it one of"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "ours or is it something alien? Something"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "not of this world. Now, that's the big"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "All right, we got more UFO videos that"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "just uh came in. I think this one is"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "coming out of uh North Korea. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "sure. We're going to find out, but it"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "it's fairly unique and and uh we wanted"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "to share it as soon as we got it. As"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "soon as we get the videos, we just want"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "to get it out to you guys and we all"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "decide to make up our own opinions. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "what's really going on or what are we"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "looking at? Okay, let's roll this."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Well, there it is. The Look at this"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "thing. It's large. And we only get a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "couple moments of the capture, but we"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "get a good closeup. And there it is."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "They they they [music] take pictures and"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "they zoom in with the camera pretty dang"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "close. Look at this thing"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "taken over Korea. I believe it was North"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Korea, but I could be wrong. Could be"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "South Korea. You know, North Korea is"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "kind of locked down. Maybe maybe I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "leaning more for South Korea where this"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "uh video is stemming from, but it's in"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "that region. And look at this spherical"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "uh ball floating over the city there."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Could it be a tethered balloon? I'm not"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "sure."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Oh, I know. It captured uh these"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "people's attention and they decided to"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "pull out the camera. You could hear in"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "their voices. They seem to be bewildered"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "on what they're actually capturing here."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "How large do you think this is, guys?"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Leave it in the comments. And if you're"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "digging this episode, uh, smash that"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "thumbs up cuz, uh, we need all the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "support you could get that that we need."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "We need to get Third Phase Moon and that"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "algorithm kicking off. So, subscribe and"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "hit that thumbs up and, uh, leave your"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "comment."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "All right, new videos just into third"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Let's just roll it."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> Wait. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": ">> WHAT THE"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> OKAY."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": ">> OH MY GOD."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": ">> Oh no. That's different."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> What? [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Oh no. What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Stephen, what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": ">> upside down, y'all."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> They're coming from like way behind us"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "That's not lightning, is it? No."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> Wow. Did he see that? Look at those"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Shoot. I almost count like 10 shooting"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "lights. Now there there's more. And they"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "just keep coming out of nowhere from"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "these certain angles. One from the right"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "camera and then straight overhead. Look"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "at that. You could hear it in the and"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "the people the the the witnesses on the"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "ground. They're they're blown away."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "This one has been going viral right now"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "on Tik Tok. Not sure if you've seen it."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Well, not just Tik Tok, just the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "internet in general. But look at this"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "video. It's 100% legit. What whatever"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "these boys are capturing,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "it's real. Look at these guys are"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "freaking out. They don't know what's"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "really going on. Could this be some sort"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "of projection? Let's just let's just"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "throw it out there. Is that a"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "possibility? I haven't seen this"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "technology. the way it moves from one"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "part of the sky and it seems to, you"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "know, go on for miles, maybe tens of"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "miles as it just goes over their heads."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Boom. And then it one actually, did he"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "see that? It went forward and then it"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "seemed to have stopped and reversed and"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "came back and then went straight uh off"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "into the horizon. That was incredible."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Look at these guys are blown away. I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "blown away. What's your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Let's roll it one more time."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "One. You see it just stopped. 2 3 4 5 6"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "7 8 9 10."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "15. Let's just say 15 lights that just"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "shot. And then there's more. Maybe about"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "close to two dozen uh anomalies that"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "just shoot over shoot overhead. They"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "they look like it these the craft is"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "made of like pure energy. I'm not sure."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Or it could be some new tech projection"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "system. Let us know guys if you've seen"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": ">> All right. Apparently, there's a new"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "documentary with with regards to the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "famous Phoenix Lights, and I think"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "everybody uh remembers that story. It"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "was uh sparked the whole UFO phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "and and lit it on fire. And uh let's"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "just look at it. I want to get your"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "opinion and ask you a question. Do you"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "believe the Phoenix Lights was"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "legitimate? like this was indeed one big"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "flying craft or was it a series of"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "flares? Uh let's hear your comments as"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "we we watch this event kind of happen in"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "real time."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "Was this legit"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "or was it misidentified or was this the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "massive uh TR3B triangular craft that"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "we've all been talking about?"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "Oh, what do we got?"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": ">> Hey, Sue."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> I hit bait dirt finally."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "Submitted for your approval. What have"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "we got here?"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "This is South Mountain."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "That's the city in front of us. Those"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "lights have appeared."}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> Well, that is a totally different"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "configuration than we've ever seen"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "I'm sitting over here saying to myself,"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "I got the camera. Oh, now that one went"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "out to the uh"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> to the left."}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": ">> To the east."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> To the east."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "The time is about 10:00, Sue."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": ">> Yes. [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": ">> 10:00. Uh March 13th, Thursday night."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> Isn't that weird? Look at that."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "All right. March 13th, 1997,"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "the V-shaped object. [music] Between"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "7:30 p.m. and 8:30, thousands of"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "eyewitnesses experienced this this"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "phenomenon, this sighting that baffled"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "not just Phoenix, but [music] the world."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "So, I don't know. This is a classic."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "We've all seen it before and it's kind"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "of interesting to go back and and look"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "at the the OG videos, the legit ones"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "before there was basically CGI or AI"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "where Right now we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "something that really happened. Now the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "big question is what really happened"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "that night and with the secrecy and the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "cover up behind it all. And the big"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "question is we're just doing a poll"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "right now and I kind of want to see it."}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "Where do you lie on on on your uh on"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "your thoughts on this so many years"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "later? Is this a a craft the immense"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "size of maybe three or four Walmarts or"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "is this some uh individual flares?"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "That's always uh you know lots up for"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "debate. I believe something happened"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "that that day and we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "authentic uh footage of of the"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "phenomenon. All right, speaking of the"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "phenomenon and the cover up, you need to"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "watch"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "asymmetric disclosure. It's it's cutting"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "edge. It's it's right now in real time"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "what's happening in the disclosure field"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "that's uh happening around the planet."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "So, watch this trailer. It's out there"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "right now for free on Tuby."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "says enough is enough. [music] Cut the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "money off. Bring these people in. Let's"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> This is not [music] to be talked about"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "any further. And if you do, something"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "can happen."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": ">> All we need is one [music] to be"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "accurate. And this whole concept of UFO"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "crash retrieval non-existing completely"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "falls apart."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there. Can give"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "[music] since the 60s to hit a button"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "and simulate an alien attack on the"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "planet using these technologies. [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "Serious questions that have made a"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "growing number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "[music] They're not stunned. They can"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "say, \"Oh, we knew this was going to"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "happen.\""}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure. [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "that. Is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": ">> Asymmetric Disclosure. It's available"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "for free right now on Tuby. We're going"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "to supply the original link below to all"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "our Disclosure films. I think we got"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "about five of them and you can watch"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "them right now all on streaming. I think"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "YouTube movies to be and like I said"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "they're free. [music] They don't cost a"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "penny. Just go watch it right now. I"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "think agent disclosure they're charging"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "like 20 bucks, $30 to buy. Look, like I"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "said in the description below, you're"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "going to have access to five"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "documentaries, the disclosure series for"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "free right now. Go take a look. Enjoy"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "those upto-date documentaries"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "and it's going to blow you away of some"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "of the things that were stated by some"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "of the big players in the field and it's"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "our pleasure to broadcast right here"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "from the Hollywood Hills bringing you"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "the latest [music] greatest UFO videos"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "from around the world. It's our"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "pleasure. Brent, thanks for joining us."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Everybody around [music] the world, you"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "be safe and if you've captured anything"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "amazing, submit it to us. film the"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "Upload that video to any social media."}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "All our contacts are below. My email's"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "there. You can email the link to us. And"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "if it's good enough, we'll share it to"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "the world. You've got a lot of videos. I"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "think disclosures in our hands, people,"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "the public, everybody. Keep your eyes on"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "the skies. We're not alone. Blake"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "Cousins, we'll see you next time."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:49", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:07", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "hey, [music] hey, hey, hey, hey."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}]

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My children watched it the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "entire time. They let me know that a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "green laser went into the lake behind"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "the property and the fish swarmed to it."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "I came back to see that that was going"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "on cuz they were screaming, \"Hey, mom,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "come here. Look at this.\" Cuz this was"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the next step of what was going on. And"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "it stayed for a while. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "it is. I'm not going to pretend I know"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "what it is, but I think it is pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "alienike. Look at that blue light"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "dancing down the bottom of it. If"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "someone can explain it to me, that would"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "be great. The children are absolutely"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "obsessed."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "So, if you all could, I would love some"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "opinions on what you think this is."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Comment below."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Brett, I want to get your thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "this. I know everybody from around the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "world's watching us right now, and it's"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "good to be with everybody from around"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "the world. Give us a big thumbs up,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "guys. Uh, we've been looking over this"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "video. I want to get your thoughts."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "Brent, what's yours?"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Wow. That's all I got to say. This is"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "really impressive footage. Look at this"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "thing. It looks metallic. It looks"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "legit. Look at that light at the bottom"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "of it. Kind of sparkling blue. God has"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "this like crystal kind of uh fill to it"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "or whatever's protruding at the bottom"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "of this thing. Let's get some close-ups"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "of this. Again, this is coming in from"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Tik Tok. You heard uh the woman say that"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the children actually saw this this"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "craft shoot a beam into like this lake"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "and then the craft was next to it and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "apparently the fish were swarming around"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "the you know the projection beam or"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "whatever it is. Look at this thing. It"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "goes past the lines. Everything's"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "looking pretty legit. It doesn't look"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "like your typical balloon. This thing"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "looks metallic. 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Looks metallic."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Yeah, this thing's uh it's huge. I would"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "say this thing's probably about 40 50"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "feet in length. Maybe a little smaller,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "but quite quite big."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Now, let's get to this crazy video just"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "in"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "All right, let's roll this out once"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "again. Look at this thing. The"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "boggosphere. It's It's all over the"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "planet right now. Again, another capture"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "right here. Look at the performance of"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "this thing,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "man. It just made that all these dynamic"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "angles again. What is what's going on"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "with the this metallic ball again?"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "There's being studies right now that's"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "happening in Mexico. Dr. Steven Greer"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "was just there recently. He gave us an"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "update and we'll give you more of that"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "here in the coming uh days. But look at"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "this thing just go past that tree line"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "right there in some kind of strange"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "exotic place kind of out in the middle"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "of nowhere."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "What I like about this is there's two"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "there's two shots of the same phenomena"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "just kind of like stopped came to a"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "complete stop and then now it's just"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "banking down erratically and then that"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "just goes right behind that tree line"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "There it is. He's He had a, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "had to pan his camera and he got focus"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "on it. Good stuff here."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "All right, we've got some amazing videos"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "right here at Third Phase of Moon, like"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "I said. Now, take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "can"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "follow."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Follow"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Oh, it's going to open."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Let's"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "get"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "green."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Let me Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "What's that?"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Just a Foreign"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Easy."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "All right. Multiple shots of the spheric"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "ball being seen around the world. And"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "here's another one. We're basically"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "getting like five to seven videos a week"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "of of this phenomenon. What What in the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "world is this, guys? Now, let's get this"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "closeup here."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "And the funny part is, well, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "going to say funny, but the unique thing"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "about these spheres, they seem to, you"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "know, they create these erratic, it's"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "kind of has this erratic behavior about"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "it. It goes up, it goes down, and it it"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "does these, you know, look, there he is."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "He's kind of, he's running to get the"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "best vantage point. I like that part."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "This is, look, this is real deal, guys."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "This guy's he's not joking around. He"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "He's He sees it there and he's filming"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "what happened in Bu uh Buga Colombia."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "This thing actually crashed to the"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "ground and now we have it in uh you know"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Haime's hands and the possession of"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "scientists over there. But it seems like"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "there's there's not just one. There's"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "there's an array of these things."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Maybe dozens, maybe hundreds. Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Maybe thousands."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Yeah. Look at this thing. It's off there"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "in the distance."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "It's kind of right there in plain sight."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Good call, Brent. Whatever it is, in my"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "opinion, what we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "legitimate 100% footage of something"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "unknown, a phenomenon captured on video."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "You love me. Oh, you love me."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "It's okay."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "foreign."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Heat."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "All right, I'm going to roll the best"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "part of the video and just slow it down"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "so we can get a good closeup of this"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "It's legit, guys. We're looking at"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "authentic footage. These guys are going,"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "\"Ko, what is this?\" And we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "some sort of large object. It looks like"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "a flying saucer with this glow at the"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "bottom of this thing."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "The high-speed chase. Crystal Garcia"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "crushed it. Uh getting this video and"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "sharing it to the world. Here's there it"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "is off in the distance again. Repeating"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "the same shot just going at extreme uh"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "slow slow rate here."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "What is it, guys? Leave your comments"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "below. We We want to hear it from you."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "All right. We just recently had, uh, an"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "encounter. Not quite an encounter. I was"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "taking some photos of the Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "sign. We're going to a party. And the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "picture you're about to see, uh, that's"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "where that party was. Uh, Andreas and"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Nina. Great host, great time. But I"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "wanted to get this kind of cinematic"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "shot."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "of their home and the Hollywood sign"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "there. And And there it is. I I put a"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "little 3.4 exposure uh rate on it just"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "so it could, you know, bring in the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "colors. And so I held the camera pretty"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "steady and boom. I was I was really"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "satisfied with the shot. But then a"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "friend of ours, Raven,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "we shared it with her and she said, this"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "was like the day afterwards and she"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "says, \"Hey guys, do you see that UFO"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "above the H?\" And we're like, We didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "even know what she was talking about."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "But then I pulled the picture back up"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "and then then you you see this object"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "right there and there it is in plain"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "sight. This metallic uh disc-like"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "pillshaped uh UFO. Um Blake went That's"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "right. like you did a a little not"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "enhancement but a little research on"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "flight radar and we looked at the exact"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "same time with the metadata that I have"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "in the camera itself. Here's a good"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "closeup. Look at that thing. It's got"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "like this bluish uh part of the capsule"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "and then the white on the right side and"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "this kind of black kind of dome on top"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "of it. Very curious. But again, we did a"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "flight radar at the exact time. I think"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "it was captured at uh 6:44 p.m. I I took"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "a series of shots, too. And uh there"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "were there there's nothing in that area."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "There was no there was no uh"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "helicopters,"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "no Cessnas, there wasn't a blimp. There"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "was nothing. It was basically empty. And"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "there there's the information right"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "there. So, what is it, guys? It's It's a"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "classic UFO and there's the proof. I"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "don't know. Could it be some sort of"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "uh object? Hard telling, but this one's"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "a classic. I like this one. Share this"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "photo to your friends. Um UFOs over"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "Hollywood. Now, on another note, wow, we"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "uh got some news yesterday and it it hit"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "us pretty hard. There's this uh"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "YouTuber, you might be aware of him,"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Adam the Woo, and he's a great guy. He's"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "a one for the history books for YouTube."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "He is kind of a journeyman. And he'd go"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "to amusement parks, he'd go to"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "roadsides, attractions, just basically"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "the odd odd parts of America. And he"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "would tell a daily vlog story. And"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "unfortunately, we received the news uh"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "yesterday that he passed in his home in"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "Florida. And it, man, that that kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "hit us hard. He, you know, we got to"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "meet him for a day. Got to hang out and"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "we exchanged numbers and he's just a a"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "gentleman all the way through. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "sure if you're aware of Adam, he's just"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "he's got that heart."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "And yeah, unfortunately, sad news, Adam"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "the Woo is gone. Um,"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "so you might know him. There he was"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "right there at a place we had stayed in"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "the Hollywood Hills. Now we live at"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "another place. But yeah, he's he's"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "really generous and"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": ">> we really miss you, Adam. Here's a"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "little clip that we did with u Adam"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "about a year ago. Let's take a look at"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "this. We have an unidentified object."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "I'm going to live in this neighborhood,"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> man. This is like a It's like a dream"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "living here. Amazing."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "And right over there is the wisdom tree."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Not the dreaming tree. I always like"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "always get mixed up. Walt's dreaming"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "tree in Marceline. But yeah, there's the"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "We're going to try to hike up there,"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "too. This is about a 45minute hike."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> about 45 minutes from there. We'll"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> get you there. All right, we can do it."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": ">> You call it the door to Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": ">> We call it the doorway to Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": ">> The doorway to Hollywood."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> Awesome. Check out these guys channel if"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "you want to see UFO stuff."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": ">> Third phase of moon"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": ">> and never trust the man. Never trust the"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "man."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:37", "text": ">> Nice meeting you both."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": ">> See you guys. Okay, that was pretty"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "awesome meeting those guys. What a"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "coincidence. Walked past and they're"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "like, \"Hey, Adam.\" And I asked where we"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "parked if we were good to park where we"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "parked and they said, \"Oh yeah, as long"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "as it's not a weekend.\" So, we're now"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "going to walk through."}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": ">> He sure was at the highest point of the"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "mountain. And yeah, again, Adam Woo, uh,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "rest in peace. And we'll be, uh, looking"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "at your vlogs and still living your"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "memories as, as you put it out on"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "YouTube, sharing your life with us."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": ">> You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": ">> Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "that's like? That organization has had"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": ">> Serious questions that I admit a growing"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": ">> How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "They put it into secrecy, they deny"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "deny, and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure. It's available"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "for free right now on Tuby. We're going"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "to supply the original link below to all"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "our Disclosure films. I think we got"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "about five of them and you can watch"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "them right now. All on streaming. I"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "think YouTube movies to be. And like I"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "said, they're free. They don't cost a"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "penny. Just go watch it right now. I"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "think a agent disclosure they're"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "charging like 20 bucks, $30 to buy."}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Look, like I said, in the description"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "below, you're going to have access to"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "five documentaries, the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "series for free right now. Go take a"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "look, enjoy those upto-date"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "documentaries,"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "and it's going to blow you away of some"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "of the things that were stated by some"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "of the big players in the field. And"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "it's our pleasure to broadcast right"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "here from the Hollywood Hills, bringing"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "you the latest, greatest UFO videos from"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "around the world. It's our pleasure."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Brent, thanks for joining us. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "around the world, you be safe. And if"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "you've captured anything amazing, submit"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "it to us. Film the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "Upload that video to any social media."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "All our contacts are below. My email's"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "there. You can email the link to us. And"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "if it's good enough, we'll share it to"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "the world."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "We've got a lot of videos. I think"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "disclosure is in our hands. People, the"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "public, everybody, keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "skies. We're not alone. Blake Cousins,"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "we'll see you next time."}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Hey"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "hey hey"}]

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He was there"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "in Boston just the other day and he"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "noticed something fiery crashing down"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "from the sky. He pulled out his camera"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "and captured something incredible. It"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "made the news. People were looking up"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "saying, \"What the heck is going on?\" I"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "don't know. Is this some kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "possible celestial event or a downed"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "UFO? Look at this thing. I think"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "something made contact with the ground."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "I'm sure there's some debris. People"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "might have recovered. Brent, what's your"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "thoughts on this? Yeah, look at that."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "What an amazing capture. Again, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "looking at something huge falling out of"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the sky. I'm not sure if it's falling"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "from space or some sort of vehicle up"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "there. That's it looks like some sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "fireball that's just crashing to the"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "ground. But look at the descent of this"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "thing. It's It's actually rather slow."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "It seems to be falling at a slower rate"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "of, you know, natural rate of speed."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Incredible stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "All right, guys. Uh, we've got this"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "video. It's pretty controversial. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "coming in from Wanto Juan. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "he's been putting out videos of a alien"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "that he's capturing in its proximity."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Take a look at this raw video, guys. We"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "want to get your thoughts. Plus, we've"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "got a ton of UFO videos in this episode,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "so buckle up. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "More"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "over here."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Not the mommies."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Not the mommy. Miracle come over here."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Mommy sister."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "right. Like I said, very controversial"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "video. Juan uh Wanito has been putting"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "out these videos for quite some time."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Some people say it's the most incredible"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "alien footage out there and other people"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "say it's a massive hoax. Um right now"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "we're just People are saying, \"What's"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "your thoughts on this?\" I I don't know."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "It looks almost too good to be true. I"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "would like to maybe interview Juan, see"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "what he's up to. Hey, Juan, if you're uh"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "watching Third Phase Moon, reach out to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "us. I see a lot of your videos that"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "you're posting. They're compelling, but"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "I think we need more answers. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "people on the ground uh close to you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "that they could maybe uh cooperate this"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "kind of evidence, right? Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "right. Reach out to us. But look at this"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "thing. It almost looks transparent. But"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "the big question is, is this actually"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "there? Is this some sort of prop? Who"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "knows? But I don't know. People asked"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "us, \"What's your opinion?\" Third phase."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Well, we're still on the fence on this"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "one. A representative uh Congressman"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Luna made some provocative statements"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "recently on Jeremy Corbel's uh channel,"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "and you know, she's an advocate for"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "disclosure. I'm not sure we're going to"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "find the answers in DC. 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And of course, I'll let the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "other representatives tell you what"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "happened. And I'm sure you can already"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "assume, but we were denied access. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "you know, my thing is this. 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It's up to us to get the answers."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "There's a lot of people that are working"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "covering the evidence up of this of"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "these undisclosed projects. They're"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "working there every day next to the high"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "technology. All we need is some"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "whistleblowers coming out. These"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "civilians, private contractors, they're"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the ones that are seeing and working"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "with the evidence that could change the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "world overnight. And I think it's their"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "responsibility just to come forward"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "because these operations that they're"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "working are under are illegal. So"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "therefore, the NDAs don't come into"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "factor here, Brent. Yeah, absolutely. If"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "you're you're you're part of these"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "unacknowledged programs, come forward,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "reach out to Third Phase. We got this uh"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "resources and we'll get your word out."}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Again, a lot of UFOs uh that came in"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "just overnight. So, we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "sharing. That's right, Brett. Uh this"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "video has just come in moments ago. And"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "guys, I I want to get your opinions."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Apparently, plasmic orbs skimming across"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the water. Guys, take a look. I I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "going to pull up the original imagery."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "This one's Is it a USO? Here's the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "original footage."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "What the hell?"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "All right, this is coming out of Tik"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "Tok. We're going to get a little"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "closeup. The Anomaly Vault posted this."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "I don't know. I I got a feeling this is"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "too good to be true. I'm looking at the"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "waves, the the crashing waves. They"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "almost seem a little repetitious. Not"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "quite natural. I don't know, Brent. I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "I'm thinking AI in this one. Yeah, just"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "looking at the the waves breaking. It"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "has this kind of artificial feel to it."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Again, they're getting a little harder"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "to, you know, find the AI is definitely"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "it's not a it's a hindrance right now."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "And trying to find the legitimate UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "but when you got the eyewitness and the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "the metadata from the camera itself,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "then you're talking again. Yeah, this I"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "think like could be too good to be true."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "But uh people asked us again, what's"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "your opinions third phase? And we're"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "sharing it right now. Right, we've got"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "an incredible video. It lasts for quite"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "some time. Haime Moan met a guy. He's a"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "paraglider who apparently was followed"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "around by a UFO. This is a special"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "report coming from Colombia. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Columbia."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "definitely the similarities uh between"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "all the captures of the spheres in"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "different locations of Colombia match"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "up. Now watch"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Cruz. Pikacho."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Incredible footage. This thing is"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "following this paraglider around. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "this is amazing. I think 100% legitimate"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "footage here."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "William"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Extraordinary Mercedes."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "and we're looking at this uh very"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "closely and he seems that he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "worried. He's recording something"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "extraordinary. But look at the close"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "proximity this thing. It's tracking uh"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "this paraglider. Two paragliders"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "experiencing the phenomenon. And look at"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "how clear this footage is."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "And we're looking at this again, the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "similarities between the captures in"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "multiple locations, but this is"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "incredible POV footage from the"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "parachuters, the paragliders themselves"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "as the things approaching them. Watch."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "extraordinar."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Rodrigo"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "moment."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "our observator"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Latin America,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "you know. Let's roll this again. There"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "it is. The sphere. Some people dub it"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "the sphere. I I call it the metallic"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "sphere. It's a UFO. No means of"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "propulsion. And these guys are just up"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "there paragliding around. And this seems"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "this thing seems to be observing them"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "like an obser observable. This is crazy"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "footage, Brett. Yeah, definitely. This"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "is uh the mystery going on in Colombia."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "The sphere. Uh this it's not a balloon"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "that this thing is tracking these"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "paragliders. This is a phenomenon right"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Yeah. Incredible reporting coming in"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "from behind me in these multiple angles."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Cruza."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Okay, they're slowing it down."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "It seems that the paragliders didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "even realize that they were being"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "followed in the air by this object. But"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "uh there it is. It captured multiple"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "angles as they descend downward. And I"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "don't know. I don't think this is a"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "balloon. I think this is something uh"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "something very strange."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Grandio"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Grandia."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "All right. Now that we've got the videos"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "and they've been analyzed, slowed down,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "we got some good close-ups and"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "comparisons. Now we got Henry uh"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "Marcino."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "He's come forward. Haime was able to"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "track him down and interview um one of"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "the paragliders"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "who had the experience and they're just"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "amazed of what they captured. But what's"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "amazing too is that they they've come"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "forward. they're willing to uh put their"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "face forward and speak about the"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "phenomenon. Listen to what uh Henry had"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "to say."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "See"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "the central"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "All right, Henry Mauricio, he's captured"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "something amazing and I respect him."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "He's come forward. He He didn't seem"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "He's kind of like a nononsense guy."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "These guys uh it takes some guts uh for"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "these guys to come forward. But here's"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "another image. Is that like a reflection"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "coming off his helmet there that it was"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "above him or off in the distance? Um"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "let's see there. Oh, I think you can see"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "that it was right above his head"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "reflecting off his helmet. Henry"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Mauricio, whatever he captured. Man,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "that's a You don't get that every day."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Yeah, this is how it's done. When I was"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "saying earlier in the show, what makes"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "the difference between a a capture of"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "legitimacy and maybe possible AI? Well,"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "we're ruling out all that for this one."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "This is what it takes is the eyewitness,"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "the meta, the metadata from the camera,"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "and multiple lightwitnesses and camera"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "angles. This is as good as it gets,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "guys. Now, we've received this footage"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "just moments ago. It looks to be a"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "little old, but I haven't seen this"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "particular UFO evidence before. So, I"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "think we're sharing this on Third Phase"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "Moon for the first time. And what I like"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "about it is the the eyewitness reaction"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "from the two women. They're on the"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "ground and they can't believe what"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "they're seeing. A broad daylight flying"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "disc hovering there on the mountain"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "side. I think they were out there just"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "for a hike. They had their video cameras"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "and they captured the phenomenon. This"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "is insane footage."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Guys, listen to uh their reactions and"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "you tell me if this is a fake one."}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "kisses."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "Now, it doesn't get much better than"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "this. Uh we're going to watch it once"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "again. Like I asked uh everybody, you"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "could hear it in their voices and"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "they're saying they can't believe what"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "they're seeing. It's a UFO. uh that they"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "they're experiencing something that they"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "can't explain and they captured it I'd"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "say pretty good. I I don't know exactly"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "how old this footage is. Brett, your"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "thoughts on this one? Yeah, definitely."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "I'm going to rule that they're whatever"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "these ladies are capturing it. It's"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "legit and their feelings and the way"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "they're they're describing it in real"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "time,"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "it it pass it pass a mustard test. This"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "is uh really good stuff right here. And"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "we're looking at this thing just kind of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "go behind that ridge mount side a little"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "bit. And the women actually try to get a"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "better perspective of it. I I give them"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "a lot of credit for capturing the"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "phenomenon like this. Look, look it. Is"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "Is this a classic flying saucer? What's"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "your opinion, guys?"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Yeah. Their second effort as they as"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "they lost sight of the UFO and they"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "climb up over the ridge to keep filming"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "it. That's spectacular. It reminds me of"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "those too good to be true uh photographs"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "of uh Billy Meyer. I I don't know. I"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "want to get your thoughts on Billy. Is"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "he legit or not? His photographic"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "evidence is interesting and some of his"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "films, but a lot of his videos are"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "stationary where they could possibly be"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "manipulated through a depth of"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "perception. But this these girls like"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "chase it up the hill. The camera's"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "moving around. Everything seems to match"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "up. The classic metallic Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "sports model flying saucer captured."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "Bravo to the women. Give them a big"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "thumbs up everybody if you uh like that"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "video. Now for disclosure, maybe you"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "guys should check out the free"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "documentary available right now. It's"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "called Asymmetric Disclosure. It's"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "available. 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And"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. can give"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "like."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "Serious questions that emit a growing"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "we knew this was going to happen."}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure. It's available"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "for free right now on TubeBu. We're"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "going to supply the original link below"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "to all our Disclosure films. I think we"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "got about five of them and you could"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "watch them right now. All on streaming."}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "I think YouTube movies, TBI, and like I"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "said, they're free. They don't cost a"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "penny. Just go watch it right now. I"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "think a agent disclosure, they're"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "charging like 20 bucks, $30 to buy."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Look, like I said, in the description"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "below, you're going to have access to"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "five documentaries, the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "series for free right now. Go take a"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "look. Enjoy those upto-date"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "documentaries"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "and it's going to blow you away of some"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "of the things that were stated by some"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "of the big players in the field. And"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "it's our pleasure to broadcast right"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "here from the Hollywood Hills, bringing"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "you the latest, greatest UFO videos from"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "around the world. It's our pleasure."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "Brent, thanks for joining us. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "around the world, you be safe. And if"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "you've captured anything amazing, submit"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "it to us. Film the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "Upload that video to any social media."}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "All our contacts are below. My email's"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "there. You could email the link to us."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "And if it's good enough, we'll share it"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "to the world."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "You've got a lot of videos. I think"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "disclosures in our hands, people, the"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "public, everybody, keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "skies. We're not alone. Blake Cousins,"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "we'll see you next time."}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "Hey,"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "hey, hey."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Third"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "phase"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "of moon."}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "You've got the Cousins Brothers and it's"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "good to be with you. We've got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "UFO videos and right now we're looking"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "at something incredible right there in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Los Angeles. Broad daylight, a"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "helicopter showdowns with multiple UFOs."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "We've got the original footage, guys."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Fire."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "All right, we're going to add some"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "brightness contrast. Get a close-up shot"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "of this incredible encounter. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "UFOs with the showdown in Los Angeles"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "with a police helicopter. Bro, what the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "heck is going on here? Yeah, it looks"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "like these helicopters got these UFOs"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "surrounded. They're basically just"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "they're checking it out and they don't"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "know what to make of what they're"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "looking at. I sure would like to see,"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "you know, some police cam coming from"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the helicopter uh right now. That would"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "be very cool. And get a good closeup."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "It's good to be with you. We've got so"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "many UFOs in this video. We took a"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "little bit of time off, but we were"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "working behind the scenes bringing the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "collective of the phenomenon right here"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "in this episode. So, buckle up. But"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "guys, before we get to the next video, I"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "want you to give us your comments, your"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "opinions of what we're looking at. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "let's get to the next video right now."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Guys, take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Arwin."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "All right, Arizona. It seems to be a hot"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "spot for UFOs lately. But right now,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "we're looking at something incredible"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "captured at night"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "of this bright object that just remains"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "stationary in the night sky. The"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "luminosity behind this is incredible."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "And you also see dancing lights"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "surrounding this. It almost looks"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "something out of Close Encounters of the"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Fifth Kind. This is incredible footage"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "coming in. And I'm not seeing any uh"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "manipulation here. I'm I'm I think this"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "is legit captured earlier this month."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Guys, what's your opinion on this? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Blake, this is some badass footage. Look"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "at this thing. It's quite off there in"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "the distance just hovering and look at"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the light coming off of this thing. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "it's just it's so bright and it's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "basically hiding whatever craft might be"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "suspended in the sky there. The the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "brightness is just uncanny. I like this"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "video a lot."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Right, let's pull up a closeup of this"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "of this craft if it indeed is a solid"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "object. I don't know. It could just be"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "pure energy. This We don't see any kind"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "of I don't know. I I think this is"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "something. It could be natural, guys."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "That's all I'm trying to say. Or is this"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "something otherworldly in your opinions,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "guys? We want to get your opinions. Lot"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "of videos in this episode tonight. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "give us a big thumbs up. Let's roll the"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "next one, guys. Give us your thoughts."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Right, we're going to go over this one"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "pretty quickly. What was captured? I"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "think this was in Lakewood. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "objects hovering in the sky and then"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "they descend down. I don't know. I think"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "it could be just a a group of drones and"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "somebody's misidentifying these as uh"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "multiple UFOs. Brett, your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "Yeah. You know, if you see an array of"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "lights in the sky, you don't know what"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "it is. Just film it. Again, he's"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "capturing something up there. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "unidentified. We don't know what they"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "are. Give us your opinion. What do you"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "think, guys? Could these just be simple"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "drones or flares or something else? I"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "like that the moon's behind there and"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "these clouds are standing out behind it."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "It's interesting stuff. Now, more"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "videos. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Flying in the sky."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "It stops. Look, it stopped."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "And it's gone. And there it goes."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "It's gone. It's gone, guys."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Dude, that's literally a [ __ ] UFO."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Bro,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "what the [ __ ] is this?"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "It's gone."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Can someone explain what the [ __ ] this"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "is? Flying in the sky."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "It stops. Look, it's stopped"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and it's gone. And there it goes."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "It's gone. It's gone, guys."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Dude, that's literally a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "What the [ __ ] is this?"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "It's gone."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "All right. I like this one. This was"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "captured by the sunny sign"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "uh hun explained. That was quick. But"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "look at the video of this moving object."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "A fast walker some people call it. But I"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "don't know. This one's kind of cool"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "because it it it blinks in and out of"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "existence. It reappears, moves at"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "incredible rates of speeds, and then"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "stops. Uh again, genuine video. These"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "people were astonished on the ground."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "They didn't know what they were"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "capturing."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "And then, like I said, it disappears and"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "then reappears. And that's what's quite"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "in insane about this that"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "I I don't know that drones could just"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "cloak out of existence. There's"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "something strange about this one."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Yeah. Look at that. It just kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "fades in and out. Kind of a It's right"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "there in that particular spot in the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "sky. There it is. You You don't see it."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "It's kind of like doing this peekab-oo"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "thing. Let's see if it pops up again."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Yeah, he's doing a good job. He He's"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "just holding his camera, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "pointed at that particular area. Boom."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "There. There it is. Look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "It just starts to move as it as the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "light pulsates and comes to a stop."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "And then just disappears and reappears."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Wow. Pretty cool."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Yeah, pretty interesting footage. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "we're going to get to this next one. It"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "was captured on a cruise ship. an object"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "moving very fast over the Atlantic"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Ocean. There's no ships in sight. And"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "then this tourist that was on this cru"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "cruise ship was like going, \"What the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "heck is that?\" They began to film and"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "we're going to look at this footage in"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "just a couple moments. I'm pulling it up"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "on the queue. But again, out in the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "middle of nowhere, the Atlantic Ocean."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "What the heck is this, you know, objects"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "doing out there? I got a feeling there's"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "a lot of activity underneath the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Atlantic Ocean."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "alien bases, possibly unknown life forms"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "appearing out there, traveling, and then"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "they just get caught by somebody with a"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "good eye that begins to film. So, let's"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "roll this footage coming out from a"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "cruise ship right in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Atlantic Ocean. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "See it?"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "I don't see it now."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "There it is. I got it."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "I got it."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "It's gone again."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "I got it."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "There it is. I got it."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "I got it."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "It's gone again."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "All right, let's roll that once again."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "It's interesting. Multiple clips coming"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "in out in the middle of nowhere."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Gen W2TF posted this on Tik Tok. We're"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "looking at it. I think this was captured"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "with some night vision. But again, this"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "thing is just if it was over a city,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "maybe we could call it a drone. But"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "being out there in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "nowhere, that's what's intriguing. Look"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "at this fast high rate of speed as it it"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "enters the cloud layer in and out. That"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "shows that it's off at some distance"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Yeah. Look at the propulsion on that"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "thing. It's cooking. I like the way it's"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "it's actually diving and dipping in"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "between the cloud layer as well. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Yeah, I I believe like this this light's"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "pretty far off there. Maybe about a"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "mile, which indicates some high rate of"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "speed, whatever this object is. All"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "right, more videos. Distance to third"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "phase moon. Hit that thumbs up. Let's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "roll the next one."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Columbia, we found a UFO and I'm going"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "to zoom into it."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Where is it at,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "bro? They going to say this [ __ ] though."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "It's right here."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "It's right here. Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "It's about to go through the box. No,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "that's a hot air balloon. [ __ ] no [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "No, it's not no hot air."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Hell no. A hot air."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Look at this. We found a [ __ ] UFO."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "That is a [ __ ] UFO."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "I'm looking at it."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Is that It's like a diamond shape, bro."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "What the [ __ ] is that?"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Yo, that's not a balloon. That's too big"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "to be."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Bro, that's like a diamond shape."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Look at that [ __ ] That's a perfect"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "shape."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Bro, what is that?"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "It's like rotating."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "It's rotating."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Yes. Look,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "it's it's just It's not It's not like"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "flipping like a bag."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "No, that's like genuinely shocked right"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "now. This is [ __ ] weird."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "But I'm like I'm dead ass shaking that"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "like Bro, look at my"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Cuz I thought it was like, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "just like seen a bag or something. Like"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "there's no"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Yo, that's fire coming out of"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Yes. It's going up. UFO, bro."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "You see the flame?"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Flames."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Bro, that's a [ __ ] UFO."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Wait, let me see. Let me see. Wait. Hold"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "it big to be a bag. You know how big?"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "You know how far away that is and how"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "little a bag is?"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "There's no big,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "bro. Why is the stuff around it looking"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "so weird though?"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "And the wind will be carrying it like it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "would be moving different."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "It's Wait, did it stop? No. If it"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "stopped,"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "do you see like the orb of light around"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "the figure itself? Like there's"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "something around like that's weird."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "That's a perfect shape."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Changing shape."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Yeah. Like if that was a bag, it would"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "be No, that's not a bag."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "Keep recording,"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "bro. What is that?"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Zoom off for a second."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "And now it's still"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "nice. I'm looking at it first."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Bro, what is that?"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "It's actually"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "What's that?"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Take a video. [ __ ] [ __ ] I don't know"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "where it's"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Bro, what?"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Bro, what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "I need to get this video off you as soon"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "as we're done. That's all we need."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Honestly, bro, the videos that"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "All right. Uh, you know, we just let it"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "roll. There's a lot of swearing going"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "on, but hey, this is uh the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "People freak out when they see it. And"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "we're looking at something captured in"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "broad daylight"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "of what looks to be some kind of disc"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "with some kind of glowing plasmic"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "energy below it. It's rotating."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "And some people are claiming that this"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "is a UFO. I I'm not exactly sure. I know"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "it's kind of misidentified. This was"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "captured over Colombia. A lot of people"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "witnessed this. Multiple angles. I kind"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "of like this is a beautiful shot with"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "the sunset, the silhouette of the craft."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Yeah, it's cool. People uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "somebody sent this to us. They they"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "wanted their phase of moon's opinion on"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "it. And yeah, it's a great capture."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "Everything we're looking at is legit."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "There's no CGI or AI going on here. But"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "could it be maybe misidentified? I don't"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "know. But we do see this kind of object"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "just kind of rotating with this"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "underlining glow at the bottom of this"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "craft. Could it be a Chinese uh lantern?"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "I'm not sure. But again, like I said"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "earlier in the episode, if you see"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "something in the sky, you don't know"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "what it is, go ahead, pull out your"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "camera and film it, and we'll find out"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "what what's really going on after the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "fact. Yeah, this video is kind of going"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "viral. Uh what I like about it is you"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "could hear the eyewitnesses. There were"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "multiple people filming with their"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "phones. They posted it up to social"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "media and a lot of people in Colombia"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "was asking what the heck is going on"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "over their city and it was captured and"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "again a beautiful capture of this"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "silhouette of looks to be a discshaped"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "object moving counterclockwise. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "interesting video but like I said we"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "leave it up to you to decide guys. We"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "want to get your opinions on this. Could"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "it be a Chinese lantern? I'm not seeing"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "any kind of means of"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "heat underneath this portion of the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "video. So, and it's still retaining"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "its altitude. Interesting footage right"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "here. Now, a lot more videos coming in,"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "guys. We wanted to get your opinions on"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "this latest statement by Richard"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "Bandurich just casually dropped that the"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "real Ellen disclosure."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Well, Richard Burk is a CEO of Field"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "Propulsion Technologies in Colorado, and"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "he had some quite provocative things to"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "say about traditional propellant and"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "spacecraft propulsion systems. Listen"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "up. They were smart materials. Like one"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "of the things is when they these"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "materials, you'd be looking at them and"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "you trying to reverse engineer them that"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "they would turn to dust and then so and"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "they would do it within a minute or two."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "And then so you could take the dust and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "then set it off and get the isotropic"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "analysis done on them. And they did they"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "were extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "but these materials I mean we're looking"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "at something that's hundreds of years"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "ahead of us. When you look under a"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "microscope and electron microscope"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "you're looking at something that's"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "composed of very small particles that"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "seem to be communicating with one"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "another. So those are the things that"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "that I've been involved in that I'm not"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "that we can talk about but you know I"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "think that's one of the reasons why"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "extraterrestrial materials are not"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "really available to most people is"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "because most of them um are set to um"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "disintegrate if they get in the wrong"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "hand. Isotropic analysis of the dust"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "that's left behind tells you it's"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "extraterrestrial. So we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "materials that could reconfigure"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "themselves. They are composed of small"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "subunits. So the type of things I looked"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "at were that something as small as a"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "sliver of metal that had would"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "reconfigure itself depending on where it"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "was would cloak itself and it would try"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "to blend into the environment. So the"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "ones that this one NGO used to get a"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "hold of were the ones that were"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "technically broken. I guess the ones"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "that didn't really function very well."}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "So then you could collect them every"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "once in a while and then try to analyze"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "them. You could do things like split"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "them apart and they would attempt to uh"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "find each other or reconfigure. Some of"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "the experiments they did was we took one"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "of those and we put it on a very hot"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "surface of about 3,000\u00b0 and what it"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "would do is it cooled the surface around"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "itself and then when we took the device"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "off and then weighed it again, we would"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "find that the mass would be reduced by a"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "certain amount."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "All right, this is interesting. Richard"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "Ben Durich. He's a CEO of the Field"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Propulsion Technologies Incorporated in"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Colorado. It's based, it's kind of a"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "startup engineering with regards to"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "breakthrough spacecraft propulsion"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "systems that operate without traditional"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "uh propellant, but in this case, he kind"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "of dropped dropped some big news making"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "statements about extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "material."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "It's interesting about some of the"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "studies and experiments that they did"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "with these craft that they would almost"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "like self-destruct or disintegrate when"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "they were being reverse engineered. Is"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "it's almost like the Mission Impossible"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "message where it it turns into smoke to"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "leave no trail behind it. We've heard"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "this before that some of these craft"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "that were recovered that they basically"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "don't exist anymore. Like they were"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "broken apart. Maybe this is some of the"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "information that's coming in. And it's"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "interesting with some of the stories"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "that Bob Lazar states with regards to"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "propulsion and how these craft operate."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "And we're going to get into a statement"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "of what Bob just stated, but the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "implications about what Richard Burk"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "just said, the CEO of the Field"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "Propulsion Technologies. He's kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "saying that we got the extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "material."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "It's it's performing and operating on"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "almost a nano structure like these"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "components are communicating within with"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "themselves. This is interesting stuff,"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Brett. Yeah, fascinating. Richard kind"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "of Yeah, broke it down, dropped a couple"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "bombshells there. I like the idea of"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "maybe Yeah. this alien tech having this"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "uh technology to self-destruct this kind"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "of like rapid dismantlement and then"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "basically turn into dust and maybe at"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "some point even gather itself and build"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "itself back up again. This is uh"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "incredible. I if alien tech was around"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "and if they're visiting and traveling"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "the stars, I'm sure they're they're more"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "in capable to you know pull off"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "something like this. It kind of it just"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "all makes sense."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "Now, let's get to Bob Lazar. He's uh"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "made a few statements back in the day"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "with regards to the propulsion, the"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "technologies behind uh the craft, and he"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "made some interesting statements that"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "kind of match up with what Richard Burk"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "just said. So, we're going to play this"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "little clip of Bob Lazar kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "breaking down"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "some of the propulsion system behind uh"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "the technology of these craft that are"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "being reverse engineered. Now, listen to"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "what Bob has to say."}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "How far in the future do you estimate"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "that craft was to what we're doing at"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "the present time?"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "Well, I've heard other people estimate"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "things like that. uh saying, \"Well, it's"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "a thousand or 10,000 years advanced of"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "our technology.\" And I don't really find"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "that to be the case. I all I really find"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "to be the case is probably a technology"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "that's about 100 or 200 years in advance"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "of us. And the only reason being is"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "because they stumbled upon a device, a"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "machine that can actually make gravity,"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "that can produce gravitational waves."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "Now, this is something that our science"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "and physics knows. We know what gravity"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "is. We know how it works, but we really"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "just observe it. We don't understand it."}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "And we certainly don't have a machine"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "that can create a gravitational wave."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "And uh because they've developed this,"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "they have a unique propulsion system and"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "that has a lot of offshoot possibilities"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "and other uses. Uh also the power source"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "is fairly unique. We know of its"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "existence. Uh there is a total"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "annihilation reaction we know of. The"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "three atomic reactions we know of are"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "fishing as you see in a atomic bomb,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "fusion as you see in a a hydrogen bomb,"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "and we're currently trying to make a"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "fusion reactor to provide power cleanly."}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "And we also know there's a total"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "annihilation reaction, which is a"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "extremely virtually 100% efficient"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "reaction that, you know, we're really"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "not haven't even begun to do any"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "research with. But, you know, here are"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "these systems in place operating and it"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "really didn't look that far in advance,"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "you know, of what we were. Well, one"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "interesting thing that reactor that"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "powered this vehicle was very small in"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "relationship to the power it produced,"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "was it not?"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "Oh, it was tremendously tiny. You're"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "looking at something that puts out more"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "power than an average nuclear power"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "plant. And if anyone lives near one of"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "those, you know how big those things"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "are. And we're looking at something, you"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "know, scarcely bigger than a basketball"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "that's doing this."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "All right, coming in from Bob Lazar."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "Apparently, this these craft can be"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "operated like a nuclear plant but the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "size of a basketball. You know, Bob"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "Lazar, whether you believe him or not,"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "he seems that he has some kind of"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "intelligence or intel with regards to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "what happened at S4 Area 51. Guys, I"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "want to get your opinions right now."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "Yes. Do you believe Bob Lazar or no? And"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "I want to see that in the comments. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "you believe him or no, you don't believe"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "Bob Lazar. Uh, we want to see that in"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "the live premiere. But again, he's"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "talking about things that"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "have yet to be put forward to the"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "public. Why? Why doesn't Why doesn't Bob"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "Lazar testify in front of Congress?"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "Yeah, I don't know. Maybe he's been"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "asked, maybe he doesn't want to Who"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "knows? Does he want to put his hand on"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "the Bible and swear to the oath and say,"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "\"Hey, I'm telling the whole truth and"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "nothing but, hey, I I I like Bob. I I"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "believe his story. I I hope everything"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "he's saying is true, but uh yeah, they"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "should bring him into Congress right"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "away. Pronto, let's do it. Yeah, I heard"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "they're making a Bob Lazar movie. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "Spielberg was going to get involved. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "not exactly sure, but there's this new"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "poster that just dropped. I think is in"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "uh Time Square. And there it is."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "All will be disclosed. And this is the"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "poster coming out. the Spielberg New"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Disclosure movie that everybody's kind"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "of been talking about. And apparently"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "there's like this eye of an alien and or"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "an alien gray. It kind of resembles a"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "gray face, but you know, when you kind"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "of manipulate it and you turn it upside"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "down, it's interesting. As we look at it"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "now, it looks like maybe a child or it"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "looks like a child kind of peeking"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "through"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "through a doorway, a dark doorway or"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "something. When you flip the eyeball,"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "it's a human eye, not a gray eye. It's"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "interesting when uh you kind of play"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "with this imagery. Yeah, it's a some"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "that's some good marketing right there."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "this kind of hidden message and maybe"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Steven's trying to uh tell us something"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "here. But you do actually see as well a"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "silhouette uh surrounding the eye. It"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "looks like a bird. Do you see it? You"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "see the two feet uh and the tail and the"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "beak and and the crown up at top. So"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "definitely I think they have some hidden"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "symbols with a bird incorporated with"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "maybe a child, a boy's face, a girl's"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "face. I'm not sure. But definitely it's"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "human. But it does look like a gray from"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "the original billboard, but when you"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "flip it upside down, it it's pretty uh"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "in in plain sight right there. I wonder"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "what the hidden meaning behind this all"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "is. Yeah, I even hear that Spielberg"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "might actually show a real UFO or"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "something like that. We'll have to find"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "out. Hey, go check out asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "disclosure. It's available right now."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "that's like? That organization has had"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "Serious questions that I made a growing"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "number of drone sightings. How do you"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "set up a believable false flag and"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "operations that looks like it's alien"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "and the president doesn't know about."}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "That is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure. It's available"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "for free right now on Tuby. We're going"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "to supply the original link below to all"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "our Disclosure films. I think we got"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "about five of them and you could watch"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "them right now. All on streaming. I"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "think YouTube movies to be and like I"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "said, they're free. They don't cost a"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "penny. Just go watch it right now. I"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "think a agent disclosure they're"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "charging like 20 bucks, $30 to buy."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "Look, like I said, in the description"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "below, you're going to have access to"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "five documentaries, the disclosure"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "series for free right now. Go take a"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "look, enjoy those upto-date"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "documentaries,"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "and it's going to blow you away of some"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "of the things that were stated by some"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "of the big players in the field. And"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "it's our pleasure to broadcast right"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "here from the Hollywood Hills, bringing"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "you the latest, greatest UFO videos from"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "around the world. It's our pleasure."}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "Brent, thanks for joining us. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "around the world, you be safe. And if"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "you've captured anything amazing, submit"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "it to us. Film the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "Upload that video to any social media."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "All our contacts are below. My email's"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "there. You could email the link to us."}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "And if it's good enough, we'll share it"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "to the world."}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "You've got a lot of videos. I think"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "disclosure is in our hands. People, the"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "public, everybody, keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "skies. We're not alone. Blake Cousins,"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "we'll see you next time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Hey everybody, thanks for joining us right here. Dr. Steven Greer, Blake Cousins,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "good to see you. It's good to be here. You know, we have the new documentary that we're going to be discussing. I guess the basically the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "world's talking about it. Age of Disclosure. You're calling it Age of Deception. There's a lot of things that"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "we're missing in this documentary. They want to highlight a lot of military"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "people that have come forward, people high up. They expect us to believe the government all of a sudden. What's your"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "uh initial take on age of disclosure? They seem to miss a lot of points."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Well, I think you know the main thing that people need to understand is it's been done by people who are operatives"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "for the cabal that have been keeping this secret for uh you know 80 years. I"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you know to quote a senior CIA officer who's now must be around 80 years old"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "who I've known since the ' 90s. uh the folks who've made this are as he calls it the rat pack that have been deceiving"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the US government uh the public and the media for decades quote unquote. So I"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "think what people need to understand is that many of the points in there that are true are ones that were already"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "brought out very clearly in the 90s and the early 2000s through the disclosure project and that much of what is then"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "inserted is a very subtle psychological warfare spin. So to understand this you"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the best disinformation is a combination of fact and then there's a combin and"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "then they fold into those facts that are true false narratives and false spin and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "that we knew was going to happen in the late 90s. I wrote a paper called when disclosure serves secrecy meaning when a"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "disclosure process is overtaken and is hijacked by folks who have uh really are"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "serving the interests of this covert group. Now, specifically in the film, it"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "mentions, you know, that uh over and over that yes, there's been a reverse engineering program uh for 80 years"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "dealing with the retrieved uh nonhuman craft, but that somehow nothing in the"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "skies we're looking at are the result or the fruits of that labor. that it's all alien, including the tic tac, which we"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "have established was a Lockheed skunk works device, which by the way, for those of you who want to see it, we have"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "a book out that's come out recently, the this book that's an illustrated history"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "of disclosure I did with Michael Shrat, and it clearly illustrates the cases"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that are nonhuman ETcraft craft, EVs, extraterrestrial vehicles, and the ones"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "that are man-made. And we have a one in here that's from the 1960s uh from"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Pennsylvania of exactly looking like the tic tac that was seen that is a known uh"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "man-made object. We have two whistleblowers separate who don't know each other who saw that object being"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "utilized one in a top secret operation in Syria uh some years ago not that many"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "years ago and another one in the early 90s being offloaded from a C130 transport uh for use in the Gulf re"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "region back in the the first Gulf War. So I think this is a big problem where"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "uh deliberately the people who are putting out this film I don't think the director to be honest with you Dan Farah"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "who I met with for many hours some years ago I would say was not very astute and I"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "think he's being used by people who he thinks would know what they're talking about and they do but they're only"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "telling a halftruth and you know a halftruth is more dangerous than a straight out lie. by, you know, people"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "who just debunk and say none of this exists. But at that point, that ship has sailed. That would we've established"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "that the UFOs are real. Some are of extraterrestrial origin. Uh but it turns out some 80% of the ones people see"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "zipping around are man-made, being used in illegal and clandestine operations."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Now, this film is really a hijacking attempt to hijack disclosure into a"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "false narrative that presents it as a threat. If you see through this movie over and over and over again, they keep"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "harping on the national security threat. Well, where is that coming from? If the ETSs were a threat, we would have had"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "our clock cleaned the day we at the atomic bomb exploded in in 1945."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "So, uh the fact is is they have there's no evidence that they have attacked us."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "There's every evidence we've been attacking them. And that's the second part of the false scenario or third"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "part. The first is that these objects are not man-made when they are. That's the biggest cover up, by the way, is"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "that we humans have this technology, right? And that it's been used in criminal operations, drug running, human"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "trafficking, child trafficking, uh, abductions, kidnappings, murder, covert"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "operations. Uh, and we can document this. Luckily, senior people in law"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "enforcement and intelligence United States uh to whom we have handed over all our whistleblowers and evidence now"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "know this to be the case. And to quote one senior special forces operative,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "they're all having right now an oh moment. So, this film isn't going to deceive those people, but it's designed"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "to deceive the run-of-the-mill politician or media person or public who"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "don't have a depth of information. And that's what we're trying to correct with this podcast. Uh, and this is why I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "calling this podcast, you know, age of deception, not age of disclosure. And"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "the danger of it is that on top of saying these aren't ours and we haven't figured out how these work, that what"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "that does is cover up the fact of this legacy criminal operation that's been"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "using these advanced reverse engineered uh alien so-called technologies for"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "decades in very dangerous and and and increasingly dangerous ways. But it also"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "gives the impression therefore that everything that's UFO related that's happened out there is alien. For"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "example, in this movie they site a Soviet nuke that somehow was being"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "activated by the ETSs. In reality that craft that did that in all likelihood"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "was one of ours. And this is you have to take this into your you know paradigm"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "when you realize well was it one of the non-human ones or was it one of ours. You have both going on very actively. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "the other part of it is that it, you know, we have a uh colonel from the Soviet Union who gave us his full"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "testimony four years ago for the 20th anniversary of the disclosure project"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "public launch in 2001 at the National Press Club who has stated emphatically and this is in our"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "archive. We can put a link in there to his testimony that there was a a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "uh thermonuclear warhead that was overheating and the ETSs actually came"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "in and fixed it. In other words, they put everyone at that silo in base sort"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "of in a stasis and they went in and stopped this missile from overheating"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "and exploding which could have triggered you know a response of defcon one would"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "been at World War II. So contrary to how they're portrayed, the in fact the ETs"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "have uh been very careful to try to buy us time uh while we sort out our own"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "social situation on this planet and politically. But there's no evidence that they have done things to try to"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "instigate a war like that. And and so what you have is that you know the same set of facts then spun in a direction of"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "a national security threat. But here's the headline. The national security threat is not coming from the ETSs. It"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "is coming from this covert group that this film is really uh a front for. So I"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "think this is where you get into a very dangerous game being played here because of the uh stature of some of the people"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "with military credentials and intelligence credentials. your run-of-the-mill po politician from the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "White House on down is going to think that this is a correct assessment when it's a false assessment and it's"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "deliberately a false narrative. So, it's dangerous. So, I am calling for a boycott of people not viewing this film"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "because even if you see it for free on a site that has ads and stuff, it's the money is going to that organization. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "so I would recommend people not see it. Number one. Number two, I think it's very important that you write to members"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "of Congress and to the White House and say that the uh the narrative of this film that there's a threat from uh out"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "there is false. That the threat is coming from our own human misuse of"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "these reverse engineered technologies. Put it very simply that that's the threat. It's coming from us from within."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Uh and then the other is that the narrative that uh somehow uh as as Dr."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Putoff said that well some of these we've acquired because they've just landed and given them to us or they've"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "you know uh became disabled or got lost uh coming through interstellar and"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "transdimensional spaceime and we've acquired them. And that's a big cover up"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "of the fact we're using illegal internationally banned electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "pulse weapons to target and down ET craft. And we began to do so in the '"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "40s with electronic weapon systems. So it's not like they're just somehow"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "getting lost in space and land in the middle of the desert near Roswell or"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Nevada Test Range or near the Lockheed Skunk Works. No, they're being downed."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "And we have abundant whistleblower testimony to this effect. And at the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "same time, we have multiple people who have been on these retrieval teams who have come forward. some of them name"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "rank and serial number uh you know such as Sergeant Clifford Stone and and back"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "in the day and he's passed away but new ones who have been operational at these"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "black sites who where these weapons are used to down these ET craft and with at"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the same time not every day but on occasion strike a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "man-made UFO uh uh I mean to test it but then"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "we'll also strike an aircraft craft like a Cessna airplane and take them down. Now, I and some special forces guys for"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "the last two and a half years or three years have worked with some folks who operate and have been operators at these"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "facilities out west in the desert of the United States. And all this information"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "and those personnel have been passed over to intelligence and military investigators and law enforcement. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "this movie covers up all of that and they know better. I will say for a fact everything I just said is known not"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "necessarily by the director but by the people actually in the film. So this"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "sort of is a cover up of the real information that the public and the politicians and our government needs"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "looking like disclosure. So it's a it's a head fake. Uh and I think we need to"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "call it out for that. And of course we knew this was coming uh back when uh Mr. Alzando first surfaced in 2017 or so."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "But uh I think if people actually want to see a disclosure film, they should see Unagnowledged, which even a former"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "president, Bill Clinton, has recommended to people that's what they should be seeing. And you can see that on Amazon"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Prime and Tuby and everywhere else. Uh if you want to see the technology development, look at the lost century"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "which documents a hundred years of exotic technologies both human and extraterrestrial that have been applied"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "in these advanced technologies that are being used now where they're deceiving the public that these are all quote"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "alien when they're not. If they were all alien that would be, you know, one"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "thing, but they're not. And and so if you don't if you don't believe that's"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "possible because you're being lied to, then you're in trouble. Now, you know, uh Blake, we were our friend Jim"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Goodall, who is a well-known aerospace historian and and writer was had the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "last conversation with Ben Rich of the Lockheed Skunk Works. Right. Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "remember Yeah. And and we have the letters, too, but this was the last week of his life."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "And uh at our 2023 National Press Club event at the conference, uh before the"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "the press conference, our our private conference there in DC, uh Mr. Goodall"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "stood up and told this story. And he said point blank that Ben Rich said, \"Anything you can imagine or that you've"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "seen on Star Trek, you we've already done at the Lockheed Skunk Works and"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "it's not at Area 51. It's out here in the desert near the Lockheed skunk quarks and I know where that is because"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "now I've been to that site and I've been right above it and the underground opening. I have the video and photographs of that. Uh so the problem"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "here is that if this key part of the UFO phenomenon or whatever you want to call"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "it is covered up, it leaves our leaders, whether they be military who are not"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "read in and told or the president or Congress and the public and the media to think everything UFO related that's been"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "an atrocity is ET. When in fact the atrocious and and violent things that"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "have happened haven't been ET. they've been this covert organization doing a deceptive operation or a false flag"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "operation since the late 50s and early 60s. So that's the other point you have"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "to unpack the fact that you know in 2001 we had people come forward and you know"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "we Brad Sorenson had been at the 1988 uh air show there at the decommissioned air"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "force base in California uh where there was a covert air show and where the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "alien reproduction vehicles or ARVs three of them were in a covert hanger"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "and he was allowed to go in and see them and those were built in the late 50s and"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "early 60s and at that time he said had been all out in space and even around"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "our solar system not interstellar. So before we landed on the moon we had"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "these clandestine aircraft zipping around and so you can imagine if"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "something like that's been operational for 65 plus years. Imagine what they have today"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "after trillions of dollars further in reverse engineering and the most"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "brilliant scientists I had personally ever met work in these programs in a clandestine uh program that's a black"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "operation that is known by members of Congress and uh the White House. And"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "this is now gets into this other question. You'll notice in there there are people like uh Senator Marco Rubio"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "who's now secretary of state and some others but they are people with just"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "introductory level of information. So we have gone in and provided further information exposing the rest of this."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "But one of the problems is is that if you have people with PhDs at Harvard and"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "sterling military credentials uh who are on the payroll of this cabal, they'll go"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "in and neutralize that and say, \"Oh, we don't have anything like that.\" Or if we do, you shouldn't be talking about it."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "In fact, I have a member of Congress recently told me that he was ordered by"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "one of the figures in this film not to look into the human tech, that it was"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "too dangerous. is a boycott off of any of the man-made"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "that they told the director refused. Don't even mention that half of the story that that's the whole yeah"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "enchilada right there that they're keeping out. Is this a scop kind of thing? It seems like it's a copy paste"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "kind of major media thing. I never seen such hype from the major media on any film like this."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Well, no. This is here's what you have to understand. Everyone needs to understand this. if they are carrying"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "water for covert programs that have excellent relationships with Fox News"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "and the major media and what have you. Those doors are going to open for the"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "SCOP and will close for the truth. This is the big mistake and we proved this back in the 90s that the media and the"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "internet itself uh is actually controlled by people who have ties into"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "this transnational criminal organization and when it comes to anything this"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "important are completely controlled. And this is why you'll see the false narrative and people carrying the ball"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "of the false narrative have every door open and anyone who tries to speak the truth the door is slammed. Right? And"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "that's also been true of these sort of dog and pony foolish hearings in Congress about this where we have given"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "a list of about 50 high-value targets uh and whistleblowers who actually have"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "handled the craft and handled the bodies and operated the machinery that have"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "downed the ET craft or been on retrieval teams who are still living. Those people"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "never get subpoenaed. Those people never get called to testify. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "these guys that are talking in this documentary, don't get me wrong, the documentary shot beautifully. Everything's scored, everything's edited"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "nice, and it looks great. And like you say, they're giving 80 50% of the truth,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "and then they leave out the the main substance of it again. So is the agenda of the film is"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "to it seems to me that we better be afraid of the aliens because they're coming. They're wanting to disable our"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "NES when in fact you just said that they helped disable an an major accident, but"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "they then they turn it and say, \"Oh, look.\" That they try to turn it on. So,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "right. Well, well, they've even raided some of some of our early disclosure project witnesses like Captain Solace is in"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "there. And when I first debriefed him back in the late 90s, early 2000, about the year 2000, he told us very"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "specifically that when he was in that silo where those 18 or so nuclear"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "warheads were taken offline and unlaunchable, that what he was the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "message he was getting was that they were saying, \"Please don't blow up this beautiful planet and go to defense"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "condition one where there's a fullout nuclear launch on both sides because it would destroy all life on Earth. And but"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "if you do take it that far, we can intervene and try to stop this to save your bacon, right? To save this planet"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "and humanity. And yet he and many other people have then been hijacked and their"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "narrative has been used in the opposite way that the ETs intended. So even the"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "actual ET events uh that we know of uh have been spun. And this is the this is"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "CIA psychological warfare ops at its best where they take the same fact and"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "spin it in the direction of the narrative, the false narrative that serves their purpose. And what would"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "that be? trillions of more dollars in uh military spending and weaponizing space"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "so that they can be enriched but also create a totalitarian global uh network"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "where everyone's afraid of the aliens so they can step in and seize more and more"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "power. This has nothing to do with the truth. Now are there many points in this film that are true? Of course, the ones"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "every point in this film there are uh well they call them NHI or ET or maybe"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "interdimensional. We'll talk about that in a minute. That whole canard uh and that there has been reverse engineering"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "and we have acquired craft here. Here's the key thing is that if you cover up"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "the biggest part of this story, which is not the ET part, it's the human part."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "Yeah. Then you're also taking out of the paradigm of information for leaders in"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the media and the public where the threat's really coming from. And that has been the intention of much of what's"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "gone on with I call it the fake disclosure movement that is trying to"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "overtake disclosure. and in fact unfortunately in many ways is because they have access to major media uh that"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "we don't because if you start telling the truth on this you'll get blacklisted from the major media. So I think this is"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "one of the problems is it's a sort of a information warfare sit game going on"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "and uh you know the the the the idea that civilizations have come here and"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "just are landed you know this is another part of that cover up or that we don't have anything that works this way. The"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "other part of it is that they also know that there is a"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "uh law enforcement and strike team bearing down very quickly on the fact that there is a large criminal"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "uh racketeering influence corrupt organization uh that is running these"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "legacy programs that have been involved in unsanctioned killings of US citizens"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "to maintain secrecy, unconstitutional actions, embezzlement of federal funds,"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "guns uh and all manner of other uh criminal activity up to and including as"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "I mentioned uh trafficking in humans and drugs and what have you using these"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "advanced technologies. In fact, our whistleblower, Michael Herrera, the Marine,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "came across one of those operations in Indonesia in 2009 where they were loading created up humans onto a"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "man-made octagonal-shaped UFO to be taken for human experimentation and use. And we have"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "other whistleblowers who have been on the receiving end of that where they they've been able to document those"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "operations where they're bringing people in to be used. And of course, anyone who"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "would have seen that object would have sworn it was an extraterrestrial object if they didn't have this information."}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "So, this part of the cover up that's going on in this movie is the most dangerous part of it because what"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "they're doing, they're leaving all the scary things people have heard about UFOs that humans have done using"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "man-made tech and laying all of that on the ETSs or NHI. And that is how you"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "that's how you end up in World War II, my friend. I'll I'll tell you. I mean, I gave up my medical career in part to"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "bring out this technology that would save the biosphere. But the larger and more immediate concern has been avoiding"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "this juggernaut that Verer von Brown who invented the rocket warned about. And"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "that is that we were going to, you know, create a alien threat from space so that"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "the world would unite under some sort of totalitarian uh fascist regime. And I think this is"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "this movie is actually uh sort of the final warning bell that that's what's"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "going to be coming in 2026 and 2027 if we don't wake up. I will be blunt. Uh"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "and the time is not very we don't have a long leash anymore on this. This is coming up very quickly and I think the"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "public needs to be aware of that and that's why I'm doing this podcast today. You know, when we spoke with uh DC Long,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "Micro Herrera, Digna, these guys were firsthand whistleblowers, and it seems that these they're military insiders,"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "but they were saying that this stuff was man-made, reverse engineered. And the documentary"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "didn't seem that they wanted to touch that with a 10-ft pole when when we're talking with these guys in the"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "documentary battle for disclosure and asymmetric disclosure. And we also talked to Louis Alzando for a second."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "They It seems that they refuse to speak to these firsthand whistleblowers that acknowledge that these are man-made,"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "reverse engineered. They just want to keep it as a threat. But with Luellander,"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "it's even worse than that. You know, you have to understand that even uh Congresswoman Luna has blocked those"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "whistleblowers from testifying before the House Oversight Committee because I've met with other members of the"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "committee and they're not allowed. And these are people who don't need a subpoena. These are people who have impeccable credentials who can be proven"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "and where there has been corroboration in the case of the Herrera situation in"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "Indonesia that has been multiply corroborated by people in the intelligence community and military. So"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "by independently and so and yet that is will not be allowed to be told because"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "it's exposing this criminal organization and it's exposing the fact that we have"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "those technologies. Now the film brings up one point that that is of some"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "concern and that is some of these are also from foreign adversaries quote"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "unquote such as China and Russia. Russia does have this tech and I presume although I have don't have good"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "information there that China probably does. But when you're dealing with these sort of technologies, the transnational"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "organization running this work seamlessly with their Russian and"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Chinese counterparts. I remember in the early 90s a CIA guy saying, \"Yeah, we're"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "adversaries on most issues, but on this we work hand and glove.\" And this was"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "said to me by a senior CIA guy back in in the early 90s. So I think there is a"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "sort of naivee about the nature of this transnational. I don't use the word"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "international that that that presupposes one country talking to another. This is"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "an organization that sits a top that and is transcends it above it that operates"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "and that architecture of the secrecy and the organization doing this needs to be understood by politicians and the"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "public. But uh yes, you know, certainly there are. But this begs the question of"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "is it really quote unquote Russian and Soviet or American or is it all coming"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "from this transnational organization that is global and is criminal? And I"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "think this is something to be determined. I can't answer that definitively when you start talking about countries where I do not have"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "firsthand direct insiders such as China. But uh you know so this gets into a big"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "question mark but it certainly needs to be un understood and it needs to be understood that uh the the epicenter of"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "technology research and development on uh ET technology non-human technology is"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "United States and that we have the the most advanced systems to the point that"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "one of the teams we met with who is or a black site that retrieved these objects"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "have said very specifically that the uh"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "ET craft and the man-made ones have become so close in how they operate and"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "appear that they almost are indistinguishable. Yeah. once they're 3D, once they're right there and not not if you acquire"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "it and take it apart, but it but by looking. And this becomes a real problem because in terms of a deceptive"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "operation, which is a false flag actually in the military is called a deceptive indication and warning. Uh"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "it's a deceptive operation. And so this gives this organization the ability to"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "totally trick everyone that something is alien when it's ours. And this has been"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "going on for decades. So a lot of people ask me when did the false flag operation when will it happen? I said it started"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "in the late 50s and early 60s. When um you So you have people that are"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "giving the filmmaker advice on who to talk to, what's narrative. Are you"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "claiming that maybe Lu Lozano, I guess he's an executive producer in this, so"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "he's going to be getting I guess I he's getting a pretty big cut of the film. He's the one I think that gave um the"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "filmmaker access to these people. Are they controlling the narrative? I remember when Lu Alzando, we asked him"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "to have a a conversation with you a few years back and we're going to have maybe there's going to be a debate or a"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "conversation. He he was invited, you agreed to do this, and then next thing you know, he he um was calling us uh the"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "felon five. And I guess in the film he's I guess I think in the film he's saying"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "that he's been attacked and he's he's being attacked in the in the on the internet. Well, he was the one that was"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "going on the internet talking to everybody and anybody that he could with regards to this. And his whole objective"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "was to blow the UFO community into a million pieces. Quote, I think that's what he said. And he also said that"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "we're part of the felon five and we're the equivalent of Jon Jones and Heaven's Gate and we wanted to have a respect and"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "uh I think we discussed that in the well and of course more recently the they they told everyone in Congress that"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "I'm a that they told everyone in Congress that I'm a uh a Russian foreign agent and then a a MOSAD agent. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "kidding. I mean, this literally has happened in the in the last couple years, which of course is only untrue"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "and ridiculous. Uh, and it's also a felon. Talk about a felony. It's a"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "felony to say someone is a foreign agent when they're not in order to disrupt the flow of information to a federal"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "investigation of something like the UFO issue. So, but this, you know, I've had more than one member of Congress tell me"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "where they were told point blank that I'm a Russian foreign agent or a Mossad foreign agent, which is false. But I"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "think that that is exactly what you would expect people to do. They are desperate to to have disclosure happen"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "now, but they're desperate that it be a false disclosure. They're desperate that that narrative go that direction. And"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "again, I I don't think that Mr. Farah, who as I said is not very astute, um,"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "knows enough to make that call. I think he saw an opportunity to make a film with people with credentials and he"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "seized it and he did it, which is okay. I mean, he's Hollywood. He's not a scientist. He's not an investigator and"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "he's a money guy. He's a he's a money person. So, that I understand. Uh, it's"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "not hard to figure that motivation out. It's very philistine. is your typical LA"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "Hollywood money grubbing scene. But I don't think that the people who are actually put this thing together like"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "Jay Stratton and others they certainly know better and Dr. Hal Putoff certainly knows better. Uh but I think that at the"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "same time, you know, the public being introduced to this and and I will say by"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "the public, I also mean the president of the United States and the members of"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "Congress, I consider the public because they don't have much information on this. Uh keep in mind that when I met a"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "few months ago with a former national security adviser for President Trump in his first term, I was assured that they"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "were never given any information on this. There was a complete information blackout. And this surprises people. I"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "said, \"Well, it doesn't surprise me because when I was asked to brief the CIA director for President Clinton, he"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "and the president had been denied access even though they knew something was going on. And President Clinton had"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "ordered an investigation just like Jimmy Carter did before him and other"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "presidents have when they're trying to get to the bottom of it.\" The only president who got closest to this was uh"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "President Kennedy who of course they killed him. But uh and and Mr. Clinton, I will say President Clinton of all the"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "the living known presidents got the closest to to being able to do something"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "about it, but he got submarined and threatened and threw his hands up eventually. But uh but it but when when"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "you have covert programs that are unconstitutional and and treasonous like this, the people who are are now being"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "looked at hard by the most senior people in law enforcement in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "and I know this to be a fact, they're on the run to try to look like they're"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "being good boys now and disclosing things, but they're disclosing it in a way that's solely gaslighting the"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "salient most important aspects of it and which covers up their own criminal activity."}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "So it's in a way is a disclosure that furthers the cover up. So which is what"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "you would expect the wrong direction of course. What about Melon"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "and also the dangerous direction here. Well, he knows better. He look Melon"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "knows better. Look, all these people I don't need to go through name by name. All of those folks in there are people"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "who are either been co-opted innocently like Mr. Solace uh who was a military"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "witness or there people who are central to this the spearhead of disinformation"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "going to the public like Alzando and Jay Stratton and Hal put off and others and"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "they know that and now I will also say luckily the int the senior levels of the"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "intelligence community now and uh law enforcement do know that I will say for"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "personal fact I I know that this is aware in one of the top guys that I'm working"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "with in in in that arena. As soon as this film dropped, he says, \"Well, this is a classic CIA scop psychological"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "warfare operation.\" Because they see all the false things in it, the false narrative and what they're covering up"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "and leaving out. It's not so much of what's in it, it's what isn't in it. Is it"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "uh and also what they have deliberately uh deceived about. And you know, you"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "know this, when that first thing came out about the tic tac with the the the the pilot David Fraver flying the Hornet"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "F-18, I said, \"Look, that's that's one of ours.\" And we had this in our files for for a long time. um this tic-tac"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "object and we and and since then multiple other military firsthand witnesses have come forward including a"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "Green Beret who we have debriefed who has seen that same device in use and by"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "human military operations. But it but when you have an incursion of a military"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "operating area or a classified area of something that the mainstream military"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "doesn't know about, then it's going to be assumed it's a foreign adversary or it's alien. When in reality, it's it's a"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "cell. It's a compartmented operation within our own system doing this. And"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "they're the ones deceiving their colleagues. And this is a I know for"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "most people they would go, \"Wow, this is really worse than we think.\" And that's what's happening in in some circles now."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "There's a sort of an awakening happening where they go, excuse my language, where they literally are having a quote, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "shit,\" moment that this is true and that what we've been saying for 30 years is absolutely true. Uh now the problem with"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "a film like this, it's laying the foundation for the government and the media and the public to be taken in a"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "false direction. So that anything that happens in the future with these uh"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "reverse engineered extraterrestrial technologies, the man-made objects will be assumed by everyone to be alien. And"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "so the more they stage false operations and false flag operations, well, they"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "have neutralized the possibility that it's ours. Yeah. And they're also trying to play the"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "national security card there. Oh, well, our own technologies we can't talk about because that's really top secret."}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "Actually, it's not top secret. It's not it. No, here's a point I made to a member of Congress recently. Uh I I made"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "it to Congressman Berles and a few others and uh uh Ogles and a few others."}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "I said, \"Look, if it's an illegal operation, it has no clearance. You"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "can't have it both way. You cannot use the national security laws to cover up a criminal enterprise. Therefore, there is"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "no top secret classification on it.\" And this is the foundation of the disclosure project. So anyone listening to this, if"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "you're military, intelligence, corporate, government, and you have knowledge of this, you are not bound by"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "your non-disclosure agreement on this specific issue. There may be related ones where you would be, and that's for"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "to be determined, but on this particular issue, those programs have been run in"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "an illegal and treasonous fashion since the late 1950s. And therefore, you absolutely are not"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "bound by it. Uh, and I think this is the other problem. You don't afford I I made"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "this joke to a member of Congress. If you were bringing in a mafia don to"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "interrogate him, would you put him in a skiff so what he had to say would be secret? No, you wouldn't."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "Why would you cover up? Why Why would you afford the dignity of a top secret skiff and a top secret status to a"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "criminal organization? Now, when I first said this many years ago, people said,"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "\"What are you talking about?\" And I said, \"Let's reference what I call my inverse whistleblowers, witnesses, not"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "the ones who are there, the ones who should know, who don't. The president, the CI director, the chairman of key"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "oversight committee, Senate Intelligence, Armed Services, House Oversight. I've dealt with people at"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "that level since the early 90s. of the head of intelligence for the joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Wilson, the"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "head of the defense intelligence agency. It goes on and on and on. The ministers of defense of the United Kingdom,"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "Canada, Australia, all of whom I met with personally. So when you have"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "operations that are being run without the oversight, knowledge of the"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "constitutional empowered authorities, it is by definition treasonous and illegal."}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "So they can't claim a top secret thing here. But they've been using that to scare members of Congress if they begin"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "to look into the human technology. That's kind of the first thing has been said to me. That's the first thing that uh Lu"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "Alzando said when he the documentary started up. Like there's some things that I won't be able to tell you because"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "of my NDA. I can't tell you this. I can't tell you this, but I'll tell you this. So, it really leads you down to nowhere."}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "Yeah. So, the NDA doesn't exist under this illegal operation. And the agenda just seems a little wacky where you're"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "dropping the exact locations to where the bodies are to the m where the material are where these things are"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "housed and you're dropping names people behind the cover up or these they're not"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "giving us any kind of new information except I think the documentary did one good thing. They're letting people know"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "that we're not alone. I I think they got that accomplished. Everybody's like, \"Wow, this is disclosure where they"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "didn't give us any evidence, but hey, look, there all these government officials saying that we're not alone, the NHI.\" So, I think they got that part"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "right. Obviously, there this other intention, but do you think as the filmmakers are suggesting and"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "some people online are suggesting that this is going to get Donald Trump's interest where he's going to come forward and bring disclosure? Is this"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "the documentary that's going to make the No, I mean, he already I mean, we look,"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "I'm asking this just because No, I mean, look, here's here's the"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "president's briefing document. You can get it through our store, drstephengrer.com."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "You can go see it. Um, same thing with the book, the at disclosure and illustrated history that has all these"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "crash retrieval cases. Um, honestly, he knows. Uh we also have provided a one"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "sheeter uh one sheet summary with five executive orders that he has already"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "seen and read and digested. Uh there are other people in the administration that have been met with have that have great"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "amount of beginning information. So, you know, the the big problem here is that"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "anyone looking at this film who think this is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and not the scop"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "spin piece that it is will be deceived. And that here's the problem. It's taken"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "me 35 years to unpack the complexity of this mess. And you have politicians who"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "are very busy. Rubio, now Secretary of State, uh the Director of National"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "Intelligence, all these people, unless it's someone who's been in the legacy programs,"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "and there are a couple people in the administration who are, and we know who they are, you're flying blind, and"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "you're you you don't have much time to drill down on it, and you're going to do quick and dirty briefings. And that the"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "danger is that if anyone were to see this film and think that it's actually"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "anywhere near a truthful accounting of the problem, they're going to be greatly deceived. And that is a risk. So this is"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "why I say this is sort of like an information war going on of the tr full"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "and truthful disclosure versus a false disclosure. Um which of course we always"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "knew was going to happen. If you go back to the 90s, I said very clearly uh"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "because many of the people who were even around back then that are in this new film, The Age of Deception, as I'm"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "calling it, well, it's not quite new. They've been working on it for about four years. I knew what they were I knew what they"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "were doing. No, this goes back to I mean, some of these characters go back decades and uh long before Alzando's"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "time. and old school. And so I and I've known them and I know who they are and who they answer to and what their jobs"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "actually are as opposed to their public personas. Uh but I think this is a a"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "problem that isn't fooling people at a certain level, but it could easily fool someone in the Oval Office or in the"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "Congress who are just recently learning about this. And as one member of"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "Congress said, we don't know what to believe or who to believe. Right? So that's the other strategy. Pull in. We"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "bring in all our factual information and direct witnesses and documents and sites"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "and our if you go to our archive, the DPI.com, you'll see 150 sites where these UFOs"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "are, including the black sites. And many of them have a pin exactly where you go underground to get to them, right where"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "you It's right there. And this has been provided to these folks. But then, you"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "know, you'll have people come in who have sterling military or intelligence credential. Well, that's not true. So,"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "then you get into the who do you believe thing when you're new to this and you don't have thousands of hours to spend"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "doing the original research yourself. So this is where a group like"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "it's oh it's a very effective tool to deceive uh this is why I'm calling it"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "the age of deception to to deceive key people away from the full truth and"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "without a full accounting of the facts right you're going to make wrong policy"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "decisions very mistaken policy decisions when I'm looking at"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "I mean let's not forget I'm looking at some of the public reaction and I've heard some blow go back by uh some people talking uh giving"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "their own opinions just opinions talking right not so positive of the film and they're getting copyright stricken and there's a"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "lot of suppression on just people talking the other counter to it and I I"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "do see that the public is aware how are they getting how are they getting copyritten discrimin"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "and it's and they're just small channels and they're going after anybody that's just talking negative about it. We're"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "not I'm not we're not talking negative. We're just like saying there there's another side to this story here. They left the the crucial part out and uh you"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "know they're yeah by design. But this is the problem. This is not that they didn't know. It's being done deliberately for its own"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "manipulation. And the public is aware though there's a lot of comments out there that are praising"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "the film. But then I'll say like 80 70% are understanding that there's really nothing new in the film that they they"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "haven't learned anything. It's just a it's a a panel of I think 32 people that"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "have uh come forward that are high ranking in the government. So people are uh kind of in awe because of that. But"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "they did they refuse to bring any civilian evidence as well. I think the director says we're not going to show"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "any UFO videos because people just think it's AI or CGI which is just totally"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "takes away a whole aspect of of the field of right video evidence. Let's let's bring in the"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "evidence. Yeah. Well, that one of the things we do in this book is to show in this illustrated history of disclosure um we"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "show the ones that are man-made and and the subtle differences between those and"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "the ones that are extraterrestrial. And this is like some something we give"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "to uh people in government so that they have some sort of a easy picture book"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "primer, right? So they can see the difference. Uh and uh even with that"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "said, we know that it's become harder and harder to make that distinction and"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "because of the technology curve. Remember when Ben Rich said, \"Anything you can imagine, we've already done"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "skunk works.\" That was 30 years ago this year in 1995. So imagine what the"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "technology has become as we've gone up the technological ladder over 30 years"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "of R&D using huge sums of money covertly and illegally. But also, as I mentioned,"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "the some of the most brilliant scientists I have ever met work on these technologies in covert places. And uh"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "they're often the the people who you will never hear about because they're"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "working in a covert program their whole life, but their entire career, but"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "they're really geniuses. And so, uh, when you have the actual hardware in"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "front of you, meaning extraterrestrial devices, materials, uh, electronics,"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "propulsion, all of that, and you have that much almost unlimited money and"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "some of the most brilliant scientists on Earth for the last 80 years working on"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "this, you're going to have some major breakthroughs, which is where part of the internal logic of this film falls"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "apart. On the one hand, they say we've retrieved these objects and we reverse engineered them. Uh but none of the"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "things flying around are a result of that. Well, that's just absurd. Absurd. Do you think of the president"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "disclosure there's a financial caveat to that? Um do you think Trump is holding"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "back just to look at the financial um you know, how would the country and the"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "world change overnight and how would that affect the economy? Do you think that's basic why Trump is kind of like"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "still holding back on it? Well, financially to the country."}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "There have always been three big pillars of the secrecy. One is to spin it in a"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "direction that serves the secret government interest, which is global"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "domination, etc., and presenting an alien threat that's non-existent. exactly what Verer von Brown said in"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "1974. Um the other is the technology which if it was disclosed would eventually but"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "it's going to take 15 or 20 years replace all oil, gas, coal, nuclear, wind, solar, Tesla motor cars, batteries"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "like that. You don't need it. uh you're going to have something very small that can generate 3 400 horsepower through an"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "electric motor that will run your house, your car, whatever. Um now there is another third part of it that I call the"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "legitimate part of the legacy secrecy. And I've said this since the first"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "briefings we did for Clinton back in 1993, four and five. And it's in our"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "archive. I'm very consistent. the things that fly"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "uh the so-called anti-gravity or electrogravidic propulsion or teleportation systems where things boom"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "move like that and we do have those humans do have those those cannot be"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "released uh at the first level of disclosure because they can be applied"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "immediately by any terrorist organization or unstable failed state as"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "a weapon system. So, it's complicated and I've always been very consistent in"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "saying that stationary uh you know systems that would provide the energy we"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "need need to come out should have come out 100 years ago. Things that fly and zip around that can be a missile"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "delivery system. That can't happen until the world becomes much more stable and"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "much more peaceful than it is now with a collective security agreement that no one would ever be allowed to use these"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "for uh uh kinetic or military or destructive purposes and if they did"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "every nation on earth would rise up and force them into submission. Now we don't have a cooperative agreement like that"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "but then again these technologies aren't out. we have thermonuclear which was bad enough. So that's something that needs"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "to happen. And in terms of the economy, you know, yes, obviously"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "if the big financial interests that are in the energy sector and those companies"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "don't pivot to this new economy and new technology, they will go out of business"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "like horse and buggy makers and royal typewriters that didn't get into the digital world, right? So I think that"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "that's what we're going to have to really look at and that's where I'd say this is all I think going to come out if"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "it comes out truthfully with a frank discussion of the positive payday let's"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "call it the peace dividend of disclosure technologically but we're careful about that that there's a couple phases of the"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "technologies being able to proliferate. You don't have everything come out at once. Um, now that that's a very more"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "detailed conversation and that's really what documentaries and films should be addressing at this point. Uh, not a a"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "redux of things known for decades and then a false narrative on the rest. U, we need we we really need to do this"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "narrative. And I think that's what we need to work on next with you guys. But, um, that that's something that, uh, you"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "know, I think the timeline on it is relatively short. Um, It's impossible to say, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "that is, whether it's the next few months or a couple of years, but it's certainly not decades. And u so I think"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "at this point we really need to pivot towards a real more mature understanding and conversation uh and bring the full"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "truth out, but have a frank discussion of where this needs to go. That would be"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "a positive outcome for the earth and humanity. That's what we need to focus on. Well, I I like the free energy idea"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "and release. I think maybe some of the things as well that Trump might be"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "jealous of the limelight. If he brought out disclosure, nobody would be talking about Trump as they do every day in the"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "major media. Just saying. But also the propulsion. No, I I just think that there's not"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "readiness there at that. Look, I know I don't speculate. I don't care what's being said on the internet. I I just think that they're not at a level of"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "understanding or have their arms around the problem uh at the level of the oval or even at Congress. I'll tell you in"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "Congress to my knowledge there are only two people in the Congress. One's in the House and one's in the Senate that we"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "provide material to who have an adequate understanding. Uh but I think that's"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "it's a process. What I'm afraid of is that that process needs to pick up"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "steam. And this film, this age of deception, that's calling it film, actually kind of sets that back because"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "a lot of the material in there is already baked into the cake that's been out for a long time. And the part that"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "they're covering up is the really the punchline and the most important information."}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "You know, I know uh you got to get going here. You got a big meeting ahead of you. Um there's also what they left out"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "as well is the ability to communicate peacefully with ET right"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "well that's hey yeah we're going to release a new movie soon called C5 it's"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "the new frontier contact you know why seed the territory altogether to this"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "criminal organization you know that are doing it for aggressive and violent purposes the whole concept the where I"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "started this project in 1990 35 years years ago was to start a citizens"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "diplomacy effort where humans attempt to make contact with these civilizations in"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "a in a peaceful paradigm and not a military shoot them down paradigm. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "And so you can get this app C5 contact and by the way you can get this shirt at"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "our store and I wearing my hat. This is the C5 hat. So when I go out in the"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "field I'm often wearing this. There's the merch. So you can get that for Christmas for yourself, for your"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "friends. This next film is going to be very important because it's something"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "positive. It is that everyone can do because some of these things even with the access I've"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "had and had do have is very very frustrating. But but going out and doing"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "something you can actually do something about. You can actually be part of this sort of collective of light making"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "peaceful contact using C5 contact protocols and the app takes you through"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "all the training of that you know and the movie takes you through that whole experience. We were out for a whole week"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "as you know with a whole group of people with amazing things that happened. Over 500 people were there witnessing it"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "and we're out there in the desert for two weeks every night something was being caught and we showcas it in the"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "documentary. extraordinary people couldn't believe their eyes and they're getting emotional and they're talking with them and uh C5 uh the new frontier"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "of contact is it, you know, it was really amazing to be out there on the It was rough, let me"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "tell you. We're out there till like 3 in the morning. It got down to 40 degrees, 38 degrees, 32. Crazy."}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "What a bunch of babies. It's we don't care if it's 20 degrees and I'm a Hawai. Well, look, I want to thank"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "you guys uh for what you're doing and everyone out there u look for this film. I've got to jump to another meeting"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "right now, but uh it's been great seeing you again. And uh I would ask people to"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "get to our archive and see what the real truth is and see who the witnesses, see where these black sites are. Learn about"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "the technologies. Go look at unagnowledged and also go look at again, if you haven't seen it, the lost"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "century. We'll put links in there. battle for disclosure, asymmetric disclosure,"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "up tod date. What I hope you'll also do is let people know that if this issue comes up about"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "this new film, because it's getting so much press coverage, that it's actually a scop and a disinformation piece with a"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "little bit of information and a lot of false spin. Uh, and that to to not uh"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "give it too much attention. All right. Well, I'm gonna have to jump. Thank you guys and we'll see you soon."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "Take care everybody. Keep your eyes on the skies. We'll see everybody real soon."}]

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Now about a month and a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "half later, he's attempting to open it"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "and drill through this object. And what"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "happens next? Has the internet abound in"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "skepticism? We're watching it right now."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Everybody says, \"Do it, say don't do"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "it.\" Sponsor. There is no sponsor."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "I hope somebody will at least save this"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "in case I die."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "It's just making me feel dead already."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "But anyway,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "we'll start on one,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "but we can't put anyone. I guess we'll"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "start at two."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "base."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Now, everybody's wondering what happened"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "to James. We're going to have an update"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "in just a few moments. He collapsed. The"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "camera went black. It lasted for about"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "another 15, 20 minutes afterwards."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Everybody was watching it live as he"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "drilled into this thing. And uh he just"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "passed out. I know Dr. Steven Greer has"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "some thoughts on this, but Brett, what's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "your uh immediate response to what just"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "happened a couple days ago with James'"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "attempt here. Yeah. Uh, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "I'm going to leave it up to everybody"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "else. We're just sharing it right here"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "at third phase. People say you see a"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "blue light and and then he collapsed."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "People are also saying that maybe he got"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "transported somewhere. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "it all I don't know you know all about"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "this whole story but there is an update"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "that just happened about 3 hours ago and"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "we'll share it to you uh with regards to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "James but let's hear what Stephen uh had"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "to say with regards to what happened um"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "with this event just a couple days ago."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "A lot of people are asking about James"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "who has this cylindrical object that's"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "sort of like a similar to the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "bogusphere."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Yeah. Um, you know, I know we try to"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "reach out to him, but um, he's Do you"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "have any comments on that?"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Yes. Well, if anyone knows how to"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "dialogue with him, um, we are ready to"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "secure it, uh, protect it, have it"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "scientifically tested, uh, which is"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "granted very expensive to do properly"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "and really get to the bottom of what"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "that is. And um but it it's not in our"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "possession. So all we can do is make the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "offer. So anyone listening,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "you can reinforce our offer by"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "contacting him with his social media and"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "say the scientific team and Dr. Ger are"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "very happy to help with this cuz he"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "keeps bringing it up. But we have"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "offered that assistance and it has not"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "been taken now. So that's where that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "rests. Um, as far as what that object"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "is, I don't know. I mean, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "it's it's"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "one of two things. It's either a"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "non-human object that's shaped"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "differently"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "than the bugosphere, uh, and seems"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "newer, or it's a man-made one simulating"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "the bugosphere, and it became"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "prominently known as a diversion."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "uh about the time the bugosphere went"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "viral in terms of being all over the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "internet. And so at this point I I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "completely agnostic about it. I don't"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "know. It's certainly from where it was"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "where it landed in Nevada. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "the exact location, but I know there are"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "a lot of assets we have there using"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "anti-gravity and exotic technologies."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "They're euphemistically called in the"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "aerospace industry ATS, advanced"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "technology. It's just a euphemism. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "it very well could be. Uh, but if it's"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "man-made, I think that's actually a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "greater significance to get to the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "bottom of that and prove that it is cuz"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "then it pulls the curtain back on what"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "covert programs have and what they've"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "been using to gaslight the public in"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "these decoy fake ET cases and fake UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "cases. So, if it's not human, that's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "amazing. If it is human, that's amazing."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Right. So, I think it should be uh"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "thoroughly investigated, but not by"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "trying to crack it open and drill into"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "it and doing other childish things. I"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "mean, it needs to be done properly um"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "and and safely. So, we're offering to do"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "that, but so far our offer has not been"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "um acted upon by James. And so, uh all I"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "can say is the offer stands and if he"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "wants to have help doing this, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "very much wanting to do it. Great."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Well, that's the the remarks coming in"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "from Dr. Steven Greer. He's right. About"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "a month ago, we spoke with Steve. We"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "said, \"Hey, let's maybe we should reach"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "out to this guy, James, if this is"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "legitimate. Hey, let's put it through"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "the same test as uh Dr. Greer did with"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "the bogusphere.\" um immediately when I"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "left a message with James, he um deleted"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "my comment with regards to maybe us and"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Dr. Steven looking into this object, but"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "immediately he deleted the email. When"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "we first contacted him about a month and"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "a half ago, if we wanted to share his"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "videos on Thirdphase, I think he only"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "had about a hundred people watching"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "them. Everybody was aware once we posted"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "uh James's channel on uh YouTube, Third"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Phase of Moon, and the world started to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "uh look into this and then this happens"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "and some people are saying he could be"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "liable if he's perpetuating a hoax here,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "which is most likely, and we're not"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "100%. Um he could be kind of liable"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "faking his own disappearance and death."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "it it kind of gets into a missing"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "person's report, but again, we've got"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "some updates with regards to James after"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "this event and his apparent uh possible"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "abduction. Again, uh we we remain pretty"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "skeptical on this. Yeah, he's been a"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "he's been, you know, hasn't posted"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "anything for 3 days. Ever since this"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "happened, he's been off the radar."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "And uh people are wondering where the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "heck is James and if this is true, maybe"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "maybe people should be concerned and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "people might be calling the police, the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "FBI, and saying, \"Hey, there there's"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "this guy that's possibly um hurt or"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "injured.\" But again, this just came up"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "moments ago, a little feed via Red Panda"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Koala put it up, but James said, \"They"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "took me and I need to get home and still"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "I have the object again.\" He's kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "garbled. It seems like he's a little um"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "I don't know. He said his head hurts."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Everything's kind of misspelt here for"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "anyone looking. Yes, I have I live in"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Appleton. Okay, I guess people are"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "searching for him at the moment. But"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "then again, now we have another update."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "James just posted this a few moments"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "ago. Apparently, he's he's still alive."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "But is he coherent?"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Did something happen to him? I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "know. Listen,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "he's got away. I need to get home. I"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "have no idea where I'm going. Um I just"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "need to help."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Thanks. I'm sure everybody is scared"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "right now. And um I just I"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "my migraines."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Oh, I don't even know what to do right"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "now. I don't know how far away home I"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "am."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "I got to go. I got to go. I got to give"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "this back, guys. This is not even my"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "phone. I'm going to throw this phone"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "Well, I guess uh James is okay."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Apparently, he says he's lost. He"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "doesn't know what to do. He doesn't know"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "where he is. He's got migraines. But if"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "he knew how to upload to YouTube, title"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "it, log into his account, well, he"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "should be able to pull up Google Maps,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "and know where he's at, you would think."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "So again, I don't know what uh James is"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "up to here. It seems a little suspect,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "especially if he he's uploading this to"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "YouTube and he doesn't know where he is."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Why wouldn't he just simply pull up"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Google Maps and look at his location?"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Yeah. And then they say they took him."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "Who's they? Um there are there more"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "people involved? Was it people that took"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "him? The government? What's his what's"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "his implications? He's not being very"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "clear, but everybody is wondering"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "where's James. Well, I guess here he is."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "He's back."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Yeah, a lot of people are following"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "James's story on YouTube again. We"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "remain kind of skeptical over here quite"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "a bit, especially when we reached out to"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "him. And we asked him if he wanted to"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "have this thing really analyzed in a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "scientific way, not just kind of drill"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "into it the way he did half-hazardly."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "And he he immediately deleted our"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "comment, which is there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "people requesting that Dr. Steven Greer"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "uh be um a participant and possibly"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "analyze what this object is. But when he"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "deleted that and that kind of gave us a"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "red flag and then this pulling the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "stunts off like leaving people in limbo"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "for uh a few days like he was missing"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "again. It just kind of screams to us"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "that it seems like the King Panama"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "story. If you guys remember King Panama,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "he kind of came clean. Said he faked it"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "all. I I I think James might have to do"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "the same thing. We'll just have to find"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "out. Guys, we want to get your thoughts"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "on this. Now, like we said, we've got a"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "lot of UFO videos for you in this"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "episode. Give us a big thumbs up. This"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "is what everybody's here for. Take a"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "look at this."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "All right. What's going on in Palm"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Beach, Florida? just uh captured earlier"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "this month is something in the sky. Look"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "at that thing just uh we saw something"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "fly across. That could have been a bird,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "but what the heck are these things?"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "It's off in the distance. They're"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "illuminated, glowing,"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "and it just uh screams to me"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "to be a a couple UFOs in broad daylight."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Guys, what what's your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "I don't know. It seems to be undulating,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "blowing in the wind. Brent, um, this"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "doesn't scream ET technology right here"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "to me. Brent, what's your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Yeah, true. But the big question, what"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "is it? It doesn't look like any kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "parasel or, you know, um, anything like"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "that. It It looks more like two kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "kites got tangled up as they're just"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "held up there in the sky. But this is"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "way off in the distance again over there"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "in Palm Beach, Florida. there. There's a"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "lot of UFO sightings out there. Could"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "these be maybe some UFOs? We just don't"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "All right, we've got more videos just"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "since third phase moon, guys. Take a"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "look at this."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "What the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "is that?"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "All right. What did Cat Perry capture?"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Remains a question that doesn't really"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "have any answers. You heard him. He's"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "saying, \"What the heck is that?\" And uh"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "this thing is It looks to us that this"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "is legitimate video. And if it's some"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "kind of drone, it's a drone that I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "unaware of. It has no no means of"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "propulsion."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "And uh it definitely seems metallic. It"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "has a disc shaped kind of formation. Uh"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Brent, what's your thoughts here?"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Yeah, it's good video. Definitely legit."}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "No CGI or AI in this. This thing, this"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "object is off at quite some distance,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "but it gets a really good closeup of it"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "right there. And I'm familiar with"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "drones. You do get you see the blades,"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "you see the propellers. I'm not seeing"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "the propellers on on this vehicle."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Whatever's keeping us up in the sky uh"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "remains a mystery. That sounds pretty"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Yeah, I kind of like the way it"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "undulates a little bit. It tilts down"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "and up a little bit. Some people might"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "say this is some kind of maybe a jet"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "fighter I've seen in the comments with"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "regards to this video, but I don't see"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "any indication of that. And look at this"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "right there. It's tilting ever so"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "subtle."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Again, broad daylight videos right here"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "at Third Phase Moon. This is uh good"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "stuff here, guys. We want to get your"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "thoughts uh in this live premiere."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Once again, we've got a lot of videos we"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "want to show you tonight. So, let's get"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "to the other ones right now. And guys,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "we really need your comments. It helps"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "the algorithm and we're curious honestly"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "on hearing what you guys think. That's"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "We're a big community. Nobody has the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "answers. We We've just got the videos"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "and that's why we're sharing them with"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "you. Now, let's get to the next one."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Watch."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "There's a lot of swearing on this one."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "So, we kind of tone down the fbombs, but"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "the high"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "high chase pursuit of a UFO. Watch."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Are you close?"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "What? That shed light again."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "I'm turning down."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "It shot a lot light again. Look, it's Oh"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "my god."}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "I'm turning down the left."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "All right. I just had the car. Look at"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "the sky. Just look in the sky."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "It's shooting the light down. What is"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "It look like it's taking somebody."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "Look, it did it again."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Look, look, baby."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "I see it, babe."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "It's shooting the light now. That"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "show me on the phone and I'm seeing"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "right in in the car."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Shining in that light."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Now that's in the sky."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "What the [ __ ] is in the sky?"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Is that y'all?"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Over there by campus,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "man. Do we Are we the only one that's"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "seeing this,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "bro?"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "Babe, don't just w your window."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Hey. Hey, your window down."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "You see that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Right here. Look that red [ __ ] Look,"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "yo. What? lighting some [ __ ] in the air,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "boo."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Yeah. Yo, it's [ __ ] crazy."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Yo, look at that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "We going"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "shooting the light down, bro."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "What the [ __ ] is that?"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Yo, y'all. What the [ __ ] is that?"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "What the [ __ ] is that,"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "babe? It's right there."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "What the [ __ ] is that?"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "What the is that?"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "You see that?"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "Look at it. Stop. Ain't no red light"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "gone."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "It's gone, bro."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "All right. Uh, we're going to get a"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "closeup of what these guys were seeing"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "on the ground. They were excited and a"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "lot of fbombs going. But hey, you can't"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "blame them when you see the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "But again, this was during a live stream"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "and you can't really fake live streams."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "cuz I think what we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "again legit and uh it'll last for quite"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "a while and a live high-speed UFO chase."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "It doesn't get much better than that."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "Yeah, pretty darn cool. People are"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "speculating. Could this be Project Blue"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Beam? He says that there's this beam"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "coming down from whatever's being either"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "projected or suspended in the sky. I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "not sure. Could this be some sort of"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "object rather than a projection?"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "Look how it just It's way up there. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "changing colors. It It almost looks like"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "a solid something solid up there. What's"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "your opinion?"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Yeah, it's high up there right amongst"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "the clouds. I'd estimate probably maybe"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "about 4 or 5,000 ft in elevation, maybe"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "a little less, but it's up there."}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Whatever it is, it seems pretty large."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "And again, during a live stream, uh"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "these guys were really excited, and I"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "like the way they're chasing it down. I"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "think that's uh really cool. Now, once"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "again, we've got a new documentary out."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "It's called Asymmetric Disclosure, and"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "we're able to share it to you for free."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "You guys should watch it tonight."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure covers the deep"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "cover up of black budget unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "projects. And Dr. Steven Greer, he he I"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "haven't seen him like this before. And"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "uh we meet up with some uh big"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "politicians as well in the documentary."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Guys, if you haven't seen Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Disclosure yet, I urge you to watch it"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "right now. We're going to supply the"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "link. It's on Tuby for free, guys. Go"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "watch it tonight. We're going to show"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "you the trailer. And uh if you haven't"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "seen it, you will not be disappointed."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Get your disclosure on. Now, let's take"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "a look at the trailer, guys."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. Can give"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "any kind of sneak peek of what that's"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "like. That organization has had the"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "ability since the 60s to hit a button"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "and simulate an alien attack on the"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "planet using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "Serious questions tonight amid a growing"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "They put it into secrecy, they deny deny"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "and the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "That's right. Asymmetric Disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "available right now on Tuby for free."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "You know, we just put this out a couple"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "months ago. Age of Disclosure. I think"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "they've been working on this documentary"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "for about 3 to four years. It's finally"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "going to come out. But what we shot,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure, is up to date."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "Just shot a few months ago. We put it"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "out on Amazon and iTunes, but now we're"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "able to give it to you for free. You"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "could watch it tonight right now on"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "TubeBu"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "the world. You can watch the latest"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "up-to-date information. What's going on"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "in Washington DC? What's going on with"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "uh programs? We've got Billy Carson in"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "there. We've got Dr. Greer, Michael"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Strat, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "aerospace historian Jim Goodall. It goes"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "on and on with the information."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is a mustsee if"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "you're into disclosure and you want to"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "know what's going on, the dark side of"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "the coverup. It's all here in Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "Disclosure, the latest documentary ahead"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "of its time. Like I said, Age of"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "Disclosure. It's been I think they shot"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "this 4 years ago. It took him 4 years to"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "finally get out and it still hasn't come"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "out yet. So, get your"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "disclosure on right now and go take a"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "look at asymmetric disclosure. We want"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "to thank everybody from around the world"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "who just joined us right here at Third"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "Phase of Moon. And if you caught"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "anything amazing, submit it to us right"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "here. My email is in the description."}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "We're not alone. We'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "You"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "ever"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "[Music]"}]

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Guys, take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "crazy plasmic fireball in the woods."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Watch."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Right. What do you make of this? We're"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "looking at something crazy right here."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Spain captured on a trail cam, I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "thinking. But I'm not seeing any kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "deceit in this video. What's your"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "thoughts? Yeah, like again, this just"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "came out of Spain. It's mysterious."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "We're seeing this flame ball probably"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "the size of, I would say, 50 to 60 feet"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "as it just hovers above the ground, this"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "kind of old road. You could see this"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "fireball kind of tuck behind the trees"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "as it passes along this road. What's"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "keeping this thing uh floating? It's"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "crazy. This is pretty good stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "This is crazy. I'm looking at it right"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "now. I I like the energy that's coming"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "off of this. It's It just seems to be"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "pure energy. uh nothing material like"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "solid substance, but it seems to be"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "intelligent. The way it's moving through"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "the woods and kind of in close proximity"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "to the ground, but right now we're"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "looking at this thing actually give off"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "a light, a glow that refracts off the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "ground itself. It looks legit. Yeah, you"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "see the red glow definitely highlighting"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "the ground there. This thing seems to be"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "hovering off off the ground. I'd say"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "probably about maybe 10 to 6 feet."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Definitely. In my opinion, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "ruling out CGI or AI. This This is"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "looking pretty legit, guys. What do you"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "think? Like, I'm I'm looking at this. It"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "It looks really good. And everything's"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "matching up. And guys, I want to get"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "your thoughts. Is this something like a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "natural phenomenon, static electricity,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "fireballs that come out of the ground,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "or is this something intelligent? What"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "What's your thoughts, guys? It's"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "important to us that you leave your"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "comments right here to help the algor"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "algorithm right now here on YouTube. It"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "helps get the word out. Third phase of"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "the moon, we've been around for what 17"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "years now going"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "on 18 now."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "18. It's been a wild ride."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Crazy stuff. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "I was just going to say one more thing."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Just what if you're walking next to this"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "fireball? Would you be feeling the heat"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "off of it? Definitely. I'm sure it'd be"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "emitting some sort of a lot of heat like"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "you'd be next to this big ass pond fire."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Yeah, I I would agree. It definitely I"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "think there is some heat coming off"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "this. This isn't just like uh room"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "temperature in my opinion, but it would"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "be interesting to go back if we could"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "get in touch with those people in Spain"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "and see if there's any like trace marks"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "or anything of uh some kind of residual"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "burning effect that was seen in the area"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "where the plasmic ball was leaving its"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "tra trail behind. That would be kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "cool with the follow-up. Hope hopefully"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "we could get some more answers, right,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Brian?"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Yeah, definitely. Uh we'll keep you"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "posted. Definitely. Spain's a hot spot."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "A lot of UFOs, but this uh fireball is"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "very unique. Never really seen anything"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "quite like this. You know, Brent, did"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "you hear what was going on in Florida"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "just earlier this morning? We are our"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "emails blew up. Everybody saying, \"Take"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "a look at this. The sky is falling.\" All"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "kinds of video evidence. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "get to it right now right here at"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Thirdphase Moon. So, take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "video that has just come in. Again,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "we've got multiple eyewitnesses and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "videos with regards to this event that"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "just happened over Florida. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Look at this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "bro? I ain't never seen no [ __ ] like"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "that in my life, boy."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Is it,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "bro? That ain't no normal [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "[ __ ] no."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "Why they blinking?"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "All right. if you were on location on"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "the ground, you saw this. We've seen"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "something similar in Hawaii, some"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Chinese satellite blowing up and uh to"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "dematerializing in the air, something"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "like this. But right now, we don't have"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "any any official explanation to what's"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "going on. Brent, you've got another"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "video. Yeah, definitely. They're just"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "coming in this morning or like Blake"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "just said, the Gmail was lighting up and"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "yeah, we got more video. But again,"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "there was a couple events that happened"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "in Florida yesterday and we'll get to"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "that later on in the episode. But let's"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "just roll this next video that just came"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "in to into the third phase moon feed"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "here. Rolling."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Holy."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "dude. What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Oh, [ __ ] [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Damn."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "That's that meteor has been coming out."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "That [ __ ] eater, dude. Fucker's"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "waking up."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Again, I I like that we have multiple"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "angles. Definitely confirmation of"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "something something big that fell out of"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "the sky over Florida. A lot of videos"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "have uh been coming in. So, let's just"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "roll the next one. It's just rapid fire"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "on the evidence right now. Today's uh"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "today's kind of crazy. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "That's something breaking up bad."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "That's going to hit the water or"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Look at this."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "fire right there."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "So, Brett, what do you make of uh what's"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "going on? Is this some kind of UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "crash, space junk, satellite blowing up?"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Yeah, I said this last week. This seems"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "to be an, you know, a frequent there's"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "this frequent activity of these things"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "falling out of the sky and we're really"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "not getting any answers from anybody."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "They're not saying if it's either space"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "junk or a meteorite or or something"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "else. Maybe a UAP that's been hit or"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "something's crashing. We see this uh"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "really nice color of green uh you know"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "trelling that's whatever it is and"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "everybody's capturing it all at the same"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "time and it's a beautiful event and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "mysterious at the same time. You know"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "again a lot of videos are coming in. So"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "let's just roll the next one right now"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "guys. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "[ __ ] that."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "All right. Did any of this contact uh"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "make contact with the ground? I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "there's debris all over the place."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Actually, uh meteorites are quite"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "valuable and I'm sure people are out"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "there scouring right now in uh St."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Augustine is one of the spots that was"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "uh one of the most uh biggest sightings."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "A lot of people were there on the coast"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "of St. Augustine, Florida, and they're"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "looking up and saying, \"What the heck is"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "going on?\" And these videos are proving"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "that something huge just fell out of the"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "sky. out more videos of the event, guys."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Take a look."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Oh, what the [ __ ] is happening? What is"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "happening?"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "Holy [ __ ] What are we looking at?"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Y'all seeing this, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Every everybody is seeing that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "That is"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Is that the end of the world?"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "No."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "I don't know what the That does not look"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "That was definitely a SpaceX."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "That exploded."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "No, it's not SpaceX. That was cool."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "See, I got that whole thing. That's so"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "I"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Right. Bre, would you be ducking for"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "cover if you saw this?"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Yeah. You hear?"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "They should give a heads up that there's"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "something falling and get ready. Maybe."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Yeah. You don't want these things"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "falling on on you. It's going to It's"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "going to hurt. Definitely. space junks."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Uh something not to mess around with. If"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "it knocks you, if it hits you, you're"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "going to be taken out. But let's just"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "say this, you hear people on the ground"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "saying, \"Is this the end of the world?\""}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "People, you know, they're rather"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "frightened when they see these events"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "and there's no real straight answer to"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "what's going on. So, uh definitely uh"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "yeah, you might want to think twice when"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "you start seeing uh this activity uh"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "happened in front of you and the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "frequency again and how how many times"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "this is happening within the past week"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "is extraordinary. Yeah, it it definitely"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "seems like these kind of events are on"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the rise, especially just the past"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "couple weeks. Now, there's something"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "else that was captured over Florida. Um"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "I think it was approximately seven or 10"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "days ago. The video is just coming to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "us. I don't think anybody's seen it yet,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "so we're just going to roll this new"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "video. Again, a lot of activity this"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "past month in Florida, guys. Take a look"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "at this."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "That's moving."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Yo."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Whoa. What is that? Y'all see it"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "separating."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Dang. Look. N. It's like already"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "outside. Like, what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Okay. What is that now? Hold on."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "That's not a shooting star."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "It's like one big light in the front and"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "they're like a tail."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "What is that? Right, Brent? What What's"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "your thoughts on this? Um, some people"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "might say this is just a maybe Elon Musk"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "rocket, but uh from we're trying to"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "match up the dates, see if there's any"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "launches, but according to uh some of"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "the eyewitnesses, they say that this"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "isn't a SpaceX launch. They're stunned"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "on what we're looking at here. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "it's interesting. This these events are"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "always happening. SpaceX is launching"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "almost every day, I'd almost say. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "there's a lot of activity, especially"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "out of Florida and Cape Canaveral."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "They're launching it. So, I I you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "I'm kind of leaning towards this as"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "being more of an a SpaceX launch, but"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "there's some It's It's strange. It"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "doesn't quite look like one cuz I've"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "seen them quite a few times here in LA,"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "too, as well. They happen quite often"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "out of Vandenberg. But again, we're"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "looking at an event and if you see this"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "in the sky, film it. That's all I got to"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "say. Yeah, it definitely it looks really"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "cool. And if you don't know what's going"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "on, it it could scare you. I know a lot"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "of people get scared by these uh SpaceX"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "launches and they go arai, they explode,"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "and people are just like going, \"What"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the heck is going on?\" Uh again, a lot"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "of videos. Is there another one, Bart,"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "that we we just got? Yeah, we uh"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "definitely got another one. Again, this"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "one is little unique, but we're People"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "might say this is a rocket launch, too."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "I don't know. Let's just roll it. Roll"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "it. Like,"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "I can't I can't What the hell is that?"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "It's dropping [ __ ] out of it."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Everyone's asking on Facebook what it"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "is. It's not It's not an air show or"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "anything. That's what somebody thought."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "It looks like a meteor crashing, but I"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "don't know what the hell that is. Look,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "what is it doing?"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "The aliens are landing and we're going"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "to be in Maryland and miss it."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "It's behind the trees and it keeps going"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "darting."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Then there are those things in the skies"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "that just sit there. They're like"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Okay. Yeah, this is um I don't think"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "it's celestial. Some people are saying"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "that this is against maybe debris coming"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "out of space, another UFO blown out, but"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "I don't know. I see these trails coming"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "off of it and it it screams almost"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "pyroex to me. What do you think, Brett?"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Yeah, hard telling. It could be maybe a"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "drone with a bunch of pyroex all kicking"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "it off and you can see it kind of making"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "these wide banks as uh these flares are"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "kind of kicking off of this, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "display of lights. Could it be some sort"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "of um you know new technology with"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "pyroex at the same time? I'm sure we're"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "going to be seeing this kind of stuff in"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the future, but it's still wild. The"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "girl doesn't know what's going on."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "That's why she's filming it. And uh hey,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "we're just um they sent it to Third"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Phase, so they wanted her opinion."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Again, my opinion, more likely"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "fireworks, but still a really"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "interesting uh display in the sky."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Yeah, it's pretty wild stuff there."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Guys, uh we want to let you know that uh"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "we've got our documentaries. They're out"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "now for free on Tuby. 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All of our videos are"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "basically right up to date of what's"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "going on in DC with regards to"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "disclosure and uh where where we at"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "today with it because uh you know, a lot"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "of people are demanding disclosure. I"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "don't think uh the government's going to"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "give it to us, right, Brett?"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "I'm not holding my breath, guys. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "definitely not. It's going to be the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "people that get it out. somebody that"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "has that smoking gun evidence or the"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "material and and when once it's done,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "then everything's the cat's out of the"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "bag. Let's just get it done. We all need"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "disclosure, guys. That's right. And"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "guys, if you've captured anything"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "amazing out there, send it to us right"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "here at Thirdphase Moon. My email is in"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the description, our contact. 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This is Blake Cousins"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "along with my brother Brent."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Everybody be safe. We'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "time. Now, again, that one first video"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "crazy."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "I got to get closer."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "Look at this [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "What the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "I ain't never seen no [ __ ] like that in"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "my life, boy."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Bro, that ain't no normal [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Oh no."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Holy enough record."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "dude. What the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "heck did it?"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Holy [ __ ] [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "team."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Sorry."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "That's coming out,"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "That's something breaking up back."}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "That's going to hit the water or"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "Look at this."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "Yep."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure. The link is"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "below. Go watch it right now. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "trailer for Asymmetric Disclosure. Watch"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "you're not."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "apart."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Everybody wants to be in there. Can you"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "that's like?"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "That organization has had the ability"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "since the 60s to hit a button and"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "simulate an alien attack on the planet"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "using these technologies."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Serious questions that I am made a"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "growing number of drone sightings."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "They put it into secrecy, they deny"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "deny, and then they shut the people up."}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "And the president doesn't know about"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "that. Is an existential threat to"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "humanity."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "That's right. Asymmetric Disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "available right now on Tuby for free."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "You know, we just put this out a couple"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "months ago. Age of Disclosure. I think"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "they've been working on this documentary"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "for about 3 to four years. It's finally"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "going to come out. But what we shot,"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "asymmetric disclosures, up to date, just"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "shot a few months ago. We put it out on"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Amazon and iTunes, but now we're able to"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "give it to you for free. You could watch"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "it tonight, right now on Tuby, the"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "world. You can watch the latest"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "up-to-date information, what's going on"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "in Washington DC, what's going on with"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "uh programs. We've got Billy Carson in"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "there. We've got Dr. Greer, Michael"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "Strat, Congressman Tim Burchett,"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "aerospace historian Jim Goodall, it goes"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "on and on with the information."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is a mustsee if"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "you're into disclosure and you want to"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "know what's going on, the dark side of"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the coverup. It's all here in Asymmetric"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Disclosure, the latest documentary ahead"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "of its time. Like I said, Age of"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Disclosure, it's been I think they shot"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "this four years ago. It took him four"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "years to finally get out and it still"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "hasn't come out yet. So get your"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "disclosure on right now and go take a"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "look at asymmetric disclosure. We want"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "to thank everybody from around the world"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "who just joined us right here at"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "Thirdphase of Moon. And if you've caught"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "anything amazing, submit it to us right"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "here. My email is in the description."}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "We're not alone. We'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "[Music]"}]